Old Bailey Proceedings Online (www.oldbaileyonline.org, version 8.0, 27 September 2022), September 1909, trial of RYAN, James (40, labourer) (t19090907-67).

JAMES RYAN, Breaking Peace > wounding, 7th September 1909.

RYAN, James (40, labourer) ; wounding George Hudson with intent to do him grievous bodily harm.

Mr. Aubrey Davies prosecuted.

Detective-constable DAVID BAKER, B Division. On August 2 I went to 36, Eckfield Place, Fulham. I saw prisoner at the door and told him I was a police officer and was going to arrest him for stabbing a fellow who was at the station. Prisoner replied, "Yes; that's me. "He then made a rush at me; I closed with him, and in the struggle we fell to the bottom of the stairs. I got the assistance of two more officers—Detective-sergeant Hancock and Sergeant Chatfield—and took him to the station. At the station I pointed out George Hudson, the prosecutor, to him, and said, "This in the man you stabbed." He replied, "Yes, George, I done it; I wish that I had f—g well killed you." On searching prisoner we found the pocket knife produced in his back pocket stained with blood. I showed it to him and he said, "Yes; that is what I done it with." They were both sober. Prisoner also said, "I done it because he hit me with his fist."

WILLIAM HALLEY , divisional surgeon, B Division. On August 2 I examined prosecutor, George Hudson, at the police station. That would be about half past six. He was suffering from two incised rounds at the top of the left shoulder. One extended half an inch is length and half an inch in depth; the other was not so long and comparatively superficial. He had lost a quantity of blood and there were cuts in the clothing corresponding to the wounds on the shoulder. He had lost a quantity of blood, but not sufficient to cause any real weakness. The wounds must have been caused by some sharp instrument and might have been caused by the knife produced.

GEORGE HUDSON . I live at 36, Eckfield Place, Fulham, with my mother. Prisoner lives there also. I arrived home on August 2, just before 6. I asked for a cup of tea and was refused by prisoner, who said I was not welcome to it. My mother was present. We started a little row between ourselves and I struck prisoner in the face with my hand two or three times. There was a fight and I got stabbed. I did not know I was stabbed till I found blood was running down my side about half an hour after the occurrence. I did not become unconscious. I was taken to the station by two young chaps. The knife produced belongs to prisoner. I was not sober; prisoner also seemed to me to be drunk. I am a costermonger. I had not been at work that day. Prisoner lives with my mother. At the station prisoner said he was very sorry for what he had done. I did not hear prisoner say, "Yes, George, I done it; I wish I had f—g well killed you."


JAMS RYAN (prisoner, not on oath), said that he acted in selfdefence. On Bank Holiday afternoon he came home and went to bed. Hearing Mrs. Hudson moving about, he asked her to pour him out a cup of tea. Prosecutor, coming in, poured himself out a cup, and he said to him, "Somebody else wants a cup of tea besides you." He got out his knife to cut the seams of his socks because they hurt him, and prosecutor, after striking him, threw a knife at him, saying, "You f—g bastard, I will have your b——life. "With that, having the knife in his hand, he made a plunge at prosecutor and cut him. When the police officers came he told them he had no recollection of doing it.

GEORGE HUDSON , recalled, denied that he assaulted prisoner with the table knife and did not recollect calling him a f—g bastard.

Detective BAKER, recalled. There was no cut upon prisoner's clothing and there was no blood upon him.

FREDRICK HUDSON , brother of prosecutor, spoke to seeing him throw the table knife at prisoner. Then prisoner rushed round and stabbed Prosecutor in the shoulder. He considered the affair was George's fault.

To Mr. Davies. I am a little bit afraid of prisoner.

Prisoner wished to call other members of the Hudson family, but they did not answer to their names.

Verdict. Guilty of unlawful wounding, under provocation.

Police-constable SAMUEL PRIOR, 68 B R, said he had known prisoner for the past 20 years, during which time he had been a great trouble to the police. He was now living with Mrs. Hudson, did very little work, was the associate of prostitutes and lived on prostitution, was a public-house loafer, and had been many times convicted of drunkenness and disorderly conduct.

Sentence, Nine months' hard labour.


(Monday, September 13.)