Old Bailey Proceedings Online (www.oldbaileyonline.org, version 8.0, 03 October 2022), September 1894, trial of WILLIAM TRAUTZ (36) EMILE TRAUTZ (35) ALEXANDER JOSEPH (42) GEORGE CHARLES FRUHLING (45) (t18940910-716).

WILLIAM TRAUTZ, EMILE TRAUTZ, ALEXANDER JOSEPH, GEORGE CHARLES FRUHLING, Deception > fraud, 10th September 1894.

716. WILLIAM TRAUTZ (36), EMILE TRAUTZ (35)

ALEXANDER JOSEPH (42), and GEORGE CHARLES FRUHLING (45), Unlawfully conspiring by false pretences to cheat and defraud Frederick Tunbridge and other persons. Other Counts, for obtaining goods by false pretences from the same persons, and charging Joseph with receiving goods obtained by false pretences, he knowing they had been so obtained.

MESSRS. BODKIN. and TRAVERS HUMPHREYS. Prosecuted; MR. HARRISON appeared for William Trautz; MR. DRAKE. for Emile Trautz; MESSRS. GEOGHEGAN. and CLARKE HALL. for Joseph; and MR. SLADE BUTLER. for Fruhling.

JEFFREY MALLINGS . I trade with a partner at 26, Francis Street, Woolwich, as a tennis racquet manufacturer—I received this letter of 9th April, 1894, from Webster and Krall, of 12, John Street, Minories. (Stating that they had a colonial inquiry for twelve dozen cricket balls, and asking for twelve or six balls as samples, and a list of prices and terms)—we sent a general price list of the things in which we deal—on 16th April I got this letter from the same persons. (Stating that they should be pleased to send out a few samples of ash racquet bats)—we sent samples amounting to 25s. with this invoice on 24th April—on 8th May I received this letter. (Acknowledging the three sample racquet bats and the invoice, and stating that the racquets had been sent to their customers, who wanted two dozen sent by way of trial, and that it was likely to lead to more important business)—we sent the racquets; they came to £9 9s. 3d.—Cross afterwards showed me these racquets, and I identified them as the goods I supplied—we pack them like this specially for a colonial order—I believed when I parted with the goods that there was a genuine firm of Webster and Krall, at 12, John Street, Minories, and that they wanted the goods for a colonial firm in the ordinary way of business—I have never been paid.

WILLIAM THOMAS RICHARD . I am in Mr. Mallings's employment—I am a racquet maker—on May 14th or 15th I packed these two dozen racquets.

CHARLES EDWARD CROSTHWAITE . I am a carman to Carter, Paterson and Co.—this delivery sheet of 16th May, 1894, contains the entry of a case to be delivered to Webster and Krall, of 12, John Street, Minories—I delivered the goods there, and to Emile Trautz to the best of my belief—the person to whom I delivered them signed the sheet "J. Peek" and paid me.

Cross-examined by MR. DRAKE. I said at the Police-court, I thought Emile Trautz was the man, but I would not be sure—I deliver a great many parcels.

JESSIE BELL . I live at 12, John Street, Minories, with my mother—we live upstairs, and I am employed in a shop below—Webster and Krall had an office there in April and May, as far as I remember—Webster and Krall were Emile Trautz and Fruhling; they were there from day to day—they occupied the first floor back room—I never saw into that room—after they had gone inquiries were made for them, not while they were there—I don't recognise any of the other prisoners as going to that room—I had no conversation with them—they left word with someone else in the house, where they were going to—while they were there a good many

letters arrived by post—on one occasion I gave Emile Trautz the letters as he entered the street door—he had the key of the premises.

Cross-examined by MR. DRAKE. Trautz came first in the morning, usually between nine and ten—I did not always take the letters in; only once.

Cross-examined by MR. BUTLER. I never spoke to Fruhling.

Re-examined. I met Emile Trautz and Fruhling on several occasions in the morning—I am quite certain they are the men.

WILLIAM CROSS . (Detective Inspector, City). In August I went to 5A, Stoney Lane, which was occupied by Joseph—I found there this and another case of racquets, and some separate ones, fifteen altogether.

TOM TURNER . I am a manfacturer and merchant of Watford—among other things I deal in cricket stumps, croquet and chess sets, and all sorts of games—on 13th June I received this letter from William Francks and Co., 142, Fleet Street. (Stating that they had a colonial order for a dozen sets of croquet, and asking for samples, prices, and terms)—I sent samples on 14th June—on 15th June I received this letter. (Acknowledging letter and catalogue, and asking for samples of various sorts before placing the order)—we then sent other goods from our mills at Watford—I was in communication with our London agent, Mr. Clapham, about the matter—on 18th July I received this letter. (Stating that Francks and Co. had a colonial inquiry for a gross of cricket bats, and asking for samples to be sent)—I sent other goods which were ordered through Clapham—I sent the goods, believing there was a colonial order which Francks and Co. had received, and that they had a genuine business, and wanted the goods in the ordinary way of trade—this is a copy of the account I sent—I have never been paid.

ALEXANDER CLAPHAM . I live at 7, Egbert Street, Regent's Park, and I am the London agent of Messrs. Turner and Co., of Cassiobury Mills—this letter from Francks was forwarded to me from Watford, and I went to 142, Fleet Street—I there saw Fruhling, who was trading as Francks and Co.—"Francks and Co." was up on the partition on the second floor—he paid they were doing a colonial trade, and would like a few sample's of croquet sets, but they could not give me the order then; they would forward a sample order on, and, no doubt, the order would come in a day or two—I asked him to give me the order, as I was calling there daily—I called and saw him again about 20th June—he said he would forward me a stock order on—I took sample cricket stumps with me then, and showed them, and introduced them as saleable goods for the colonial trade—when I got home that day I found this letter from Francks and Co. (Ordering nine croquet sets at the catalogue price, less 15 per cent.)—I forwarded the order to Watford for execution—about 2nd July I went again to 142, Fleet Street, and saw Emile Trautz, who I thought was a porter—he said Fruhling would be there; about ten o'clock—Fruhling came at that time—he said he had a sister in Melbourne; that the samples had gone out with the croquet sets, and no doubt we should do a very good business with him—he said the principal business they did was colonial—when I got back that day I found this letter from Francks and Co. (Ordering two dozen each of a number of sets of cricket stumps as per catalogue)—I for warded that order to Watford, where it was executed—about 16th July

I called at 142, Fleet Street, and saw Fruhling—I introduced sets of chess and draughts to him, and he left it to me to send him samples that I thought suitable for the market—I sent to Watford for samples to be forwarded to him—I have since been about twenty times to 142, Fleet Street, for the account, but I have never since seen Fruhling or Emile Trautz—I have not received payment for any of the goods—this box of croquet is one of the Cassiobury sets; it is our label—these stumps, chess, and draughts are our goods—when I forwarded these orders to Watford I believed there was a genuine firm carrying on a colonial trade at 142, Fleet Street, in the name of Francks and Co.—I have never been paid for any of these goods.

Cross-examined by MR. DRAKE. I have been about thirty times to 142, Fleet Street—I only saw Emile Trautz once—he did not enter into any negotiations with, or give orders to, me there, or take any part in ordering goods, to my knowledge.

Cross-examined by MR. BUTLER. I have never seen Fruhling write—when I went on 16th July it was not in consequence of anything Fruhling had said to me; I went on my own account to try and get an order for chess and draughts.

STEPHEN SEARS . I am a carman in Mr. Turner's employment—on 15th June I delivered three boxes to W. Francks and Co., 142, Fleet Street, and got this receipt, which Emile Trautz signed—these are three other receipts for three other sets of goods which I delivered on 6th, 9th, and 20th July—I do not know who signed those, but Emile Trautz was there when they were signed—I saw him on each occasion when I delivered goods.

HENRY CLARK . I am assistant to Barker, a pawnbroker, at 91, Houndsditch—I produce a pawnticket for a croquet set and box pawned on 18th June, 1894, in the name of Singer by Emile Trautz—this is the duplicate—I knew him before as pledging things.

SAMUEL BACON . (Detective, City). I searched Joseph when he was arrested—I found on him this pawnticket for one set of croquet in a box pledged for 15s. in the name of Singer.

EDWARD BROWN . I am a pawnbroker, of 80, Stratford Road, Plaistow—I produce a board with chessmen pawned with me on 20th July, in the name of Ann Smith, of 13, Sweet Street—this is the ticket.

JOSEPH BRITON . I am a clerk to Mr. Jackson, the landlord of 13, Sweet Street, Plaistow—Emile Trautz, whom I knew as Emile Schmidt, was the tenant of that house—I do not remember anyone named Ann Smith living there—he was a weekly tenant at 8s. a week.

WILLIAM CROSS . Re-examined). I searched Emile Trautz's address at 15, Goodall Road, Leyton, in August, and I found this pawnticket, the duplicate of the one produced by Mr. Brown—it is for a set of chess and draughts pledged for 3s.—I searched 5A, Stoney Lane, on 9th August, and found twenty-three sets of cricket stumps, of which these are part.

FREDERICK TUNBRIDGE . I trade as Tunbridge and Wright, of Reading—I manufacture fly-papers known as fly cemeteries—on 5th July I received this letter on a printed form of William Francks and Co., 142, Fleet Street, (Stating that they wished to place an order to place an order for fly-papers, and asking for samples with prices)—I sent some samples and received thin letter of 7th July. (Ordering 100 gross, and stating that they were likely to be regular customers)—I executed that order, and sent 100

gross by the South Western Railway—just after sending them off I received this telegram, and on the same day I sent off another 100 grass—I parted with those goods, believing it was a genuine firm, at 112, Fleet Street, trading as Francks and Co.—the value of the 200 gross was about £60—I have not been paid any portion of that sum—on 18th July I heard something from Messrs. Fordham and Co., of York Road, King's Cross, and came to London, and went to 142, Fleet Street—I saw the name of Francks and Co. up there—I went to the room on the second floor, but the door was locked, and no one was there, and I could not get in—I then went to 5A, Stoney Lane, an address I received from Messrs. Fordham—I found that was a shut-up shop with no name over it—on the door was a paper, "When away inquire at Mr. Cohen's, opposite"—I went to Mr. Cohen, a shoemaker opposite—I did not see any of the prisoners there—on 21st July I received this memorandum in French purporting to come from Louis Bertrand—I did not supply any goods in consequence of that—I received a communication from Messrs. Littlewood, oilmen, of King's Cross—this is one of my boxes containing fly-papers of my manufacture—I knew Messrs. Fordham and Messrs. Walton, Hassell and Port as customers before.

Cross-examined by MR. GEOGHEGAN. I do not subscribe to Stubbs, Perry, or Kemp—I sent these goods without making any inquiry, simply on the strength of a paper with a printed heading—I took it as a good firm—thousands of my fly-papers have been in circulation—I do not always get paid—I do not know Masters; I have heard of him since this case—I have heard that he has been selling some of my fly-papers—Walton and Company have been buying fly-papers from me; I do not know that they have bought them from Masters—these papers were sold by me at one time; I cannot say whether they are part of the parcel I sent to Francks and Co—I make a charge against Joseph now—I said before I did not, but I was rather under a false impression then.

RAPHAEL VACNOLINI . I am an interpreter—I interpret this memorandum from Louis Betrand to Tunbridge and Wright as follows: "Sir,—One of my colonial correspondents wishes for 100 gross of flypapers at 6s. per gross. I understand that you are a manufacturer of the same. Will you please to send me 100 gross at once, in order that the season may not be lost, in four cases of twenty-five gross each. Yours truly, LOUIS BERTRAND.—the heading is Louis Bertrand, dealer in musical instruments, etc., 58, Warren Street, W.C.

WILLIAM WICKHAM HIRAM . I am in the Accountant-General's Office of the General Post Office—I produce an original telegraph form, dated the 11th July, handed in at the Fleet Street office, and addressed to Tunbridge, 32, Castle Street, Reading: "Send to-day without fail additional 100 gross. Ship sailing.—FRANCKS. "

ALBERT HERBERT CABLING . I am a carman in the employment of the London and South-Western Railway—on 10th July, I delivered the three cases of goods on this delivery sheet to Franck and Co., 142, Fleet Street, to Fruhling, who signed the sheet "W. Alexander, for W. Francks and Co.," in my presence—I took the cases upstairs to an office.

JOHN GROVE BOWLER . I am a carman in the employment of the London and South-Western Railway Company—I delivered at Francks', 142, Fleet Street, the four boxes of fly-papers mentioned on this delivery

sheet, on 12th July—I saw Fruhling—he wanted to sign the sheet in pencil in the passage—I objected to the pencil, and he signed it in the office upstairs in ink in the name of William Francks and Co.

Cross-examined by MR. BUTLER. I did not see him sign—I followed him upstairs to the door of the office—he took the sheet in, and brought it back signed.

HENRY COLE . I am the licensee of the Kings and Keys, 142, Fleet Street—I let out the upper part of the house—on 23rd May Emile Trautz came, giving me the name of William Franck, and took the second floor back room at £26 a year—I asked him for references—he wrote me this letter dated 23rd May. (Stating that he was willing to take the room at £26 a year, and giving as references Webster and Krall, 12, John Street, Minories, and G. C. Fruhling, 12, Camden Gardens)—I wrote to those references, and received these replies. (The reply from G. C. Fruhling stated that he had known Mr. Francks intimately for many years, that he was a very respectable man, a native of Baden, and a dealer in jewellery, requiring a small office in London, and that he was a responsible person for the rent named. The reply from Webster and Krall stated that they had known William Francks for a number of years as a highly respectable man, whom they could confidently recommend as a tenant, and that he was a dealer in jewellery)—I entered into this agreement with him of 23rd May—within a few days he entered into occupation—the name of Francks and Co. was put up over the door—I have seen Fruhling at that office several times, sitting at the table writing, apparently as a clerk—my tenant had the key.

Cross-examined by MR. HARRISON. I never saw William Trautz about there.

Cross-examined by MR. DRAKE. I occasionally saw Emile Trautz there, but I was very seldom there myself.

Cross-examined by MR. BUTLER. I saw Fruhling there four or five times—I took him for a clerk.

Cross-examined by MR. GEOGHEGAN. I never saw Joseph there.

JAMES CLARK . I am clerk to Mr. Bartlett, solicitor, of 36, Bush Lane, who acts for the owners of 58, Warren Street—this is an agreement, dated 11th April, 1894, between the owners of that house and Henry Schumann—I recognise Fruhling as Schumann—I did not see him sign the agreement—he told me he wanted the house for the purpose of his profession, and that he was a professor of languages—this is a letter written to us by Henry Schumann prior to the taking of the house under the agreement.

Cross-examined by MR. BUTLER. We had several of these letters—I did not see them signed.

WILLIAM BENNETT FORDHAM . I am one of the managing directors of W. B. Fordham and Sons, Limited, general merchants and manufacturers, of King's Cross—about 6th, 7th, or 8th July a man called upon me with reference to selling me fly-papers, and handed me a printed memorandum form—that man is not here—after that a man who, to the best of my belief, is Joseph, called and gave me this card, "General Merchandise Consignment Agency, 5A, Stoney Lane," and offered me fifty gross of fly-cemeteries for sale—I said it was rather remarkable, because it was the second lot that had been offered to me lately, and I began to be suspicious,

but I would buy them after writing to Tunbridge and Wright, if they had no objection—he said that was good enough; he had been at his present address for many years, and was quite willing to have investigation—I wrote to Tunbridge and Wright immediately—I think I said I would write to him for the goods if it was all right—I did not see him again—I am not positive it was Joseph I saw; I see so many people that I cannot positively identify him.

Cross-examined by MR. GEOGHEGAN. Masters was the first man who called upon me—he gave me his printed bill-heading, which described him as a commission agent—he gave me a quotation for the fly-papers, and told me his principal had about 100 gross—he had missed the ship—I bought them in the legitimate way of business—he asked me the same price as we pay the manufacturers—in case the deal came off I was to write to Joseph and tell him—I did not write.

Re-examined. Masters sold for his principal, who invoiced them—I did not pay him all he asked—Joseph asked about the same price—Masters said his principal had ordered 100 gross and had lost ship, and that it was a very bad season, which was perfectly true—I said, "These things will be here next season, and will be deteriorated; you will have to make a sacrifice"—there was no discussion with Joseph about losing the ship or anything of the sort—I had not had any previous transaction with Masters.

FRANCIS LE MAISTRE . I am called Masters—I am a stock and job buyer and a commission agent at 23, Grosvenor Road, Highbury—I know William and Emile Trautz and Fruhling—the fourth prisoner I do not seem to recognise from here, but I believe he is Joseph—Fruhling I have known for many years—at the beginning of July I saw Emile Trautz at Ludgate Hill; he asked me to sell fifteen croquet sets for him; this is the invoice in reference to them—I sold them to Mr. Piggott for £9 7s. 6d.; he paid me by cheque, which I cashed at the bank, and I handed the money to Trautz—he paid my commission, about 10s.—I tried to sell them for about a week, and I believe someone else tried to sell them; they were out of date, and I could not get an offer for them, till at last I sold them to Mr. Piggott—I had no communication with Joseph about them—afterwards I saw Emile Trautz again, and sold some fly cemeteries for him—I sold some to Messrs. Fordham, of King's Cross—after seeing Mr. Fordham first of all I went back to Trautz by appointment, and told him I had an offer of 4s., less 5 per cent off—Trautz went with me to Fordham's in the afternoon to deliver them—£18 odd was paid to Trautz by cheque, and 100 gross delivered—Trautz took this invoice with him; I saw him sign the name "W. Richardson" when he receipted it—I did not know him by that name—I have only known William Trautz by seeing him with his brother—I never went to 142, Fleet Street; I did not know they had a place there—I saw William with his brother in Aldersgate Street and on Ludgate Hill, on both occasions in the street—I have known Fruhling twenty years—I called once at 12, John Street, Minories—I knew him as Fruhling—I don't know if he went by that name at 12, John Street; the name of the firm I called on there was Webster and Krall—I called there to see Trautz, and I saw him on the first floor back—I have not the slightest idea what he was there.

Cross-examined by MR. HARRISON. I never spoke to William Trautz upon business matters.

Cross-examined by MR. DRAKE. The sale of the fly-papers to Mr. Fordham took place through me—I saw Mr. Fordham himself—I saw the cheque paid to Trautz, and I saw him sign a document; I don't know what it was.

Cross-examined by MR. BUTLER. I never saw Fruhling at 142, Fleet Street—I believe I saw him outside 12, John Street, once.

CHARLES WILLIAM LITTLEWOOD . I am a member of the firm of Littlewood Brothers, Acton Street, Kingston, oil and colour, merchants—on 18th July Fruhling called upon me, and said he was a French interpreter, and that he knew two Frenchmen who had bought fly-papers for the French trade, and had missed the marker and wished to dispose of them, and that, as they could not speak English, they had applied to him to dispose of them for them, and that he had fifty gross to sell for them—he asked me 4s. 6d. at first, but, as I hesitated, he came down to 3s. 6d., and 5 per cent, discount for cash—I thought I had better communicate with the makers—I told him he had better bring up five gross as a sample, and he promised to bring them in the afternoon—he gave me this card, "G. C. Fruhling, Translation Offices, Camden Gardens"—he did not come back in the afternoon—next day I got from him this postcard. (This, dated from 58, Warren Street, 18th July, stated that he had not been able to see his friends in time that day, but that, he would call at eleven to-morrow with this sample)—he did not call—I had not mentioned to him that I was going to communicate with Tun-bridge and Wright—I remarked that the price was very low, as we usually pay 6s. for them, and I asked if anything was wrong with them; he said, no, they are this season's goods—I followed him down the street that day—he met, just outside, someone whom I believe was William Trautz—I telegraphed to Tunbridge and Wright immediately he left.

Cross-examined by MR. HARRISON. I am not sure whom Fruhling met outside my place—I think it was William Trautz—I heard Emile say before the Magistrate, "It was not my brother, it was I who was there."

Cross-examined by MR. BUTLER. Fruhling gave me his card with his name and address—a large number of these fly-papers are sold—I don't know if the market is flooded with them.

GEORGE USHER . I am manager to Messrs. Walton, Hassell and Port, grocers and oilmen, at Spring Place, Kentish Town—on 10th July Fruhling called and said he was a commission agent, and had got a parcel of fly-papers which had been delivered too late for shipment and were thrown on their hands, and they wanted to dispose of them cheap—he left his name and address on this slip of paper, "G. C. Fruhling, 58, Warren Street"—I talked the matter over with my principals, and decided to buy a week or ten days later, and I wrote this postcard to Fruhling on 16th July. (Stating that, re fly cemeteries which he offered at 3s. 6d. less 5 percent., if they were Tunbridge and Wright's make and in good condition, he could send five or ten gross as a sample)—next day Fruhling brought five gross—I found they were all right, and gave a further order for forty-five gross—he came with them in the afternoon, and was paid £8 6s. 5d.—

this is the receipt he gave—I got a postcard from him on 19th July, offering fifty gross more—we did not buy those.

Cross-examined by MR. GEOGHEGAN. I do not know Masters—no one else has sold us fly-papers except Tunbridge and Wright—I do not know of any other person calling on us to sell them—we have several branches in London, but our managers in charge of those shops are not allowed to buy goods; all the buying is done at the head office in Spring Gardens.

ROBERT REID . I am a member of the firm of Henry Reid and Son, towel manufacturers at Dunfermline—on 11th July I received this letter from William Francks and Co., 142, Fleet Street. (Stating that they had an Australian inquiry for an assortment of linen towels, and asking for samples and terms to be sent)—we replied with samples—we got this order of 12th July from them. (Stating that the samples would suit their market, and requesting six dozen of each of the numbers named to be sent, and expecting that a large business would result)—I executed that order, sending the goods by the Great Northern Railway—I got postcards asking when the towels would be sent, so that they could make shipping arrangements—I sent this answer on 28th July. (INSPECTOR CROSS. proved that notice to produce documents hid been served on the prisoners. The answer stated that the goods were forwarded on the 23rd)—I have never been paid for the goods I supplied, which came to something under £50—I believed there was a genuine firm of William Francks and Co., at 142, Fleet Street, and that they had an Australian inquiry for to welling, and wanted them in the ordinary way of business to send to Australia.

Cross-examined by MR. DRAKE. All this business was carried on by correspondence from beginning to end—it is not very usual to give credit without making inquiries; I did it in this case—I did not ask for cash—goods delivered before the 20th of one month are payable for on the first of the following month; if delivered after the 20th they would be payable for a month later—these goods were delivered on 25th July, so that I should not expect payment till 1st September.

FREDERICK RICKENBERG . I am a carman in the Great Northern Railway Company's employ—on 25th July I delivered at 142, Fleet Street a box to William Francks and Co.; this is the delivery sheet, which I saw William Trautz sign "William Francks and Co."—142, Fleet Street is a house at the corner of a little court; I had to go up the court to deliver the case.

Cross-examined by MR. HARRISON. William Trautz was standing outside when I arrived; it was between 8.30 and 8.45 a.m.—a person signing a delivery sheet should sign his own name, not the name of the person to whom the goods are addressed.

SAMUEL BACON . Re-examined). About ten a.m. on 25th July I was keeping observation on 142, Fleet Street, in company with Cross—I saw William Trautz walking up and down on the opposite side of the road till about 10.30, when a Great Northern Railway van drew up at the court leading to the side door of 142, Fleet Street—William Trautz crossed the road and spoke to the carman, who, with assistance, took a case off the van and placed it outside the door of 142, Fleet Street, up the court—Emile Trautz then went up the court, and after being there a few minutes he and William came out of the court, had a conversation, and went away—about 11.30 Saunders and Hall came up to the court with a barrow—

William Trautz came up and spoke to them; they all three went up the court with the barrow, and some little time afterwards William Trautz came out, crossed over to the other side of the road, and then Saunders and Hall came out with the case delivered by the Great Northern van, on the barrow—that case had never gone inside the doorway of No. 142—they went up Ludgate Hill, William Trautz following on the opposite side of the road, as far as Ludgate Circus, where I lost sight of him—as soon as they left the court Emile Trautz came out and went right away—I followed Saunders and Hall with the case to 5A, Stoney Lane; they took the case inside there—after they had gone I passed by that shop; the shutters were up, and it was closed, except for the door being half-way open—I saw Emile Trautz and Joseph inside talking together by the side of the case—after about twenty minutes they came out, Joseph locking the door—they went into Houndsdith, where I left them—there was no name up over 5A, Stoney Lane, and no indication of what business was carried on or anything of that kind—the same morning I was keeping observation on 58, Warren Street—I saw Fruhling come out about 9.30 and go into a street opposite, where I lost sight of him—I then went to Fleet Street and met Cross, and saw what I have stated.

Cross-examined by MR. BUTLER. I did not see Fruhling at Fleet Street, nor at Stoney Lane.

Cross-examined by MR. GEOGHEGAN. There is a Sunday market in Stoney Lane, and a good business is done there—5A is a shop.

THOMAS HALL . I am a porter, living at 52, Chicks and Street, Mile End New Town—on 25th July I was out of employment—I met Emile Trautz at the corner of Duke Street, Aldgate—he asked me to get a strong barrow and fetch another man and go to 142, Fleet Street, to take a case to 5A, Stoney Lane—I chose Saunders, and went to 142, Fleet Street—I there saw William Trautz—I went upstairs to the office to see if Mr. Francks was there, but no one was there—we got the case on the barrow, and went off to 5A, Stoney Lane, by ourselves—William Trautz did not go with us—at Stoney Lane I saw Emile Trautz, whom I knew as Francks, and Joseph—Emile told me to get the case off the barrow, and helped us in with it, and paid us 3s. 6d.—the shop, No. 5A, was closed, except for the door being open—I had done two jobs before for Emile Trautz—two days before I had taken a very small, light case of fifty or sixty pounds from 142, Fleet Street, to 5A, Stoney Lane; I saw William Trautz at Fleet Street, and I saw Emile Trautz waiting outside the shop, 5A, Stoney Lane, which was closed—I left the case outside on the pavement with Mr. Francks; he paid me, and I went away—the other occasion was about nine months ago, when Emile Trautz employed me to take three small cases from either Fleet Street or Jewry Street, Minories, to 5A, Stoney Lane—on each occasion I saw both William and Emile Trautz—I did not see Joseph on that occasion—the place at Jewry Street was not a shop, only an office—I don't know what sort of house it was; I had the goods from downstairs.

Cross-examined by MR. HARRISON. William Trautz has never employed me, but I have seen both brothers on each of the three occasions I have been employed—I said at the Police-court that William employed and paid me on the last occasion, but I was not very well that morning,

and I have very bad sight—it would be possible for Emile, after employing me at one place, to go on and meet me at the other end.

Cross-examined by MR. DRAKE. I have not told anyone before that Emile employed me nine months ago—I was not asked about it at the Police-court—it was just before last Christmas—I have known Emile Trautz for two or three years—he did not employ me till nine months ago—I cannot remember whether it was from Fleet Street or Jewry Street that I took things then for him.

HENRY SAUNDERS . I am a porter, living at 3, Heneage Street, Aldgate—on 25th July I went with Hall to 142, Fleet Street, with a barrow—I there saw Willian Trautz, who pointed to a big case up the court, and said, "That is it"—I put the case on the barrow, and took it to 5A, Stoney Lane—I there saw Emile Trautz and Joseph—I put the case just inside the door—I had been to Stoney Lane about a week before for Joseph—I saw him at the corner of Bevis Marks, and he said, "Come up to 142, Fleet Street; there are four and a half bundles of cricket stumps to come back"—I went to Fleet Street, and saw the two Trautzes, and I brought four and a half bundles of cricket stumps from there to Stoney Lane, and gave them to Joseph, who paid me—about eighteen months ago I took two cases of champagne from the King's Arms public-house, at 45, Houndsditch, to Bow Road for Joseph—none of the other prisoner had anything to do with that transaction.

Cross-examined by MR. HARRISON. The case I took from 142, Fleet Street, was outside the office in the court—I did not see William Trautz at Stoney Lane—I have seen him occasionally with Emile when he wanted a job done—William is very like Emile.

Cross-examined by MR. DRAKE. This was the first time Emile had engaged me—I had seen him before, but had done nothing for him.

Cross-examined by MR. GEOGHEGAN. I knew that Joseph was a licensed victualler, and kept the King's Head at Shoreditch.

ALBERT MORRIS MARKS . I am an Australian merchant at 75, Billiter Buildings—about two years ago Joseph, whom I had known before, brought me invoices of buckles to be sent to Sydney and sold on his account, and I made him an advance on the shipment—the goods did not fetch as much as I advanced, and Joseph owed me £ 16 odd—about 16th July Joseph brought me some samples of towels which he described as a job lot of sixteen gross, I think—he offered them to me for £ 35—I said I did not know their value, but that if he left the sample I would get an opinion and tell him next day—I took an opinion upon them, and next day offered him £ 28—I think he went away and came back and offered to accept £ 30—I agreed—on 1st August I gave him this cheque for £ 21 3s.—it is his endorsement on the cheque, and this is his receipt—I proposed to deduct the £ 16 he owed me; he said the one transaction had nothing to do with the other, and that he had paid for the towels, and that if I made the deduction he would be deficient in money to meet a bill—he offered to pay the £ 16 by instalments—I afterwards agreed to deduct half the amount, £ 8 9s. 4d., and to accept a promissory note for the other half—he did not tell me where he had got the towels from, or whom he had paid for them; he showed me no documents showing how he became possessed of the towels they went out to Australia.

Cross-examined by MR. GEOGHEGAN. I think I had only had the one

transaction with Joseph previous to this—I took these towels to be a job lot; they were different sizes, and the sizes were badly assorted for the Australian trade—when I offered him £28 I think he went away to consult someone—I did not know he was acting as an agent; I cannot say that he told me that.

Re-examined. I wanted them packed in a zinc-lined case, and he offered to ship them—he said they were in a sound case, and could be shipped in that—I never saw it.

WILLIAM OLDHAMPSTEAD . (Detective Inspector, City). On 14th October, 1892, I received certain information with regard to Walden and Co., of 194, Upper Thames Street, and I made inquiries, and, in consequence, went to see Joseph, and told him I had an inquiry with reference to goods obtained from a firm in Birmingham by Walden and Co., and that I had traced these goods to him—he said, "Yes, I bought them"—I said, "Who did you buy them of?"—he said, "A man named Trautz"—I warned him of that person, and told him he had better be very careful with regard to the firm of Walden and Co., which was nothing but a long firm.

Cross-examined by MR. HARRISON. It was Emile Trautz he spoke of.

Cross-examined by MR. DRAKE. I did not then know it was Emile—I made a note of my conversation with Joseph—I had not seen Trautz then to my knowledge—I would not like to swear that I had seen him speak to Joseph; I saw a certain person in a public-house in Houndsditch on one occasion when I was waiting for Joseph.

Cross-examined by MR. GEOGHEGAN. No proceedings were taken in 1892.

Re-examined. I have here my note of the conversation.

ROBERT COOPER . I am the landlord of 194, Upper Thames Street—in the autumn of 1892 a firm of Walden and Co. dealt in fancy articles there—Emile Trautz was a member of that firm—I do not think I know any of the other prisoners by sight—Walden and Co. were there three or four months—I don't know when they went, because they had the keys of the office, and I had no notice when they went—a little rent was owing.

JAMES AUSTIN . (Detective Constable, City). I had instructions, and watched 142, Fleet Street, and the Trautzes and Fruhling, from 27th July for some days—on Friday, 27th July, I saw William and Emile Trautz together at Ludgate Circus—they separated—William went to the office at 142, Fleet Street—after two or three minutes he came out and joined Emile, and gave him some letters—after reading them they went to several public-houses, and then separated; Emile went to the Red Lion, Bevis Marks, and after remaining there a short time to 5A, Stoney Lane, which is occupied by Joseph—shortly afterwards Emile came back to the Red Lion, where he joined William—they stayed there a short time; then Emile left William and went again to 5A, Stoney Lane, and from there to the Red Lion and the Spread Eagle, High Street, Whitechapel, where Joseph and his family live—shortly afterwards he rejoined William at the Red Lion, Bevis Marks; Joseph joined them—they were all three together for half an hour, in and out of the Red Lion—William and Emile went to 5A, Stoney Lane, and from there to Ludgate Circus, where they parted—Emile went to 142, Fleet-Street,

and was followed by William, who also went in—after about a quarter of an hour William left with a large paper parcel—he was afterwards joined by Emile, and they went to the Red Lion, Bevis Marks, and from there to Joseph's public-house—Joseph was not there then, but he joined them, and was in their company for half an hour—I left them there—next day, 28th July, I again saw William go into the office, 142, Fleet Street—after two or three minutes he came out and joined Emile, and handed him letters, which they read—they went to Giltspur Street, where Fruhling joined them, and they were together for about half an hour—Fruhling went to 6, Camden Gardens, a private house—on Monday, 30th July, I saw William go to the office, 142, Fleet Street—after two or three minutes he left and joined Emile, and gave Emile some letters—after reading them, Emile gave one back to William, who put it into his coat-tail pocket—they went to Giltspur Street, and met Fruhling at the same place as the day before—they were together for a few minutes—that afternoon I again saw Emile in Stoney Lane, near No. 5A—I left him at the Red Lion—on 31st July I saw William at the office, 142, Fleet Street; he came at the same time, ten o'clock each morning—he came out after two or three minutes and joined Emile, who used to wait in a back street—they went to the Red Lion, Bevis Marks—William met Emile at Farringdon Street Station that morning, and after he left him Fruhling joined William—I watched William and Emile up to seven o'clock that evening; they spent the day in the Red Lion and the Spread Eagle—on the 1st August I saw them in Mark Lane—after going to two or three public-houses William went to 142, Fleet Street, and was there for two or three minutes—I watched them for the rest of the day—they were together till four p.m. in public-houses—on the 2nd August I saw Emile in Fen-church Street and followed him to the Red Lion and Spread Eagle—he came out with Joseph after about a quarter of an hour—I was with Bacon—we arrested Joseph, and the warrant was read to him—on the remand I saw Joseph outside the Mansion House; he was on bail—I said, "I am told to tell you that you will now be further charged with conspiring with William and Emile Trautz and Fruhling and obtaining 200 gross of fly-papers from Tunbridge, of Reading"—he said, "I don't know them at all; I am as innocent of them as I am of the other charges."

Cross-examined by MR. HARRISON. The longest time William stopped at 142, Fleet Street, was fifteen or twenty minutes on the Friday; they were both there then—as a rule he stayed just two or three minutes.

Cross-examined by MR. BUTLER. The public-house where I saw Joseph is in his wife's name.

WILLIAM CROSS . Re-examined.) On 25th July, I was with Bacon at 142, Fleet Street—I have heard his evidence and corroborate it—on 8th August I had a warrant for the prisoners' arrest—I went to Leyton with Bacon, where I saw Emile about five p.m.—I said, "Your name is Francks?"—he hesitated for a moment—I said, "We are police officers. You are trading in the name of Francks and Co. at 142, Fleet Street. I hold a warrant for your arrest for obtaining a quantity of goods from different people. I will read it to you later on. Where is Alexander? Is he in your house?"—he said, "Yes," and then "No"—I said, "Who is that man inside the house?"—he said, "That is my brother; he has nothing at all to do with this matter"—I left him in charge of Bacon

and went to 15, Goodall Road, and knocked at the door—it was opened by William Trautz—I said, "I am a police officer. I want to speak to you for a moment"—we walked to the back of the house—I said, "Where is Mr. Francks?"—he said, "He is out"—I said, "Are you Mr. Alexander?"—he said, "No, that is not my name"—I said, "What is your name?" he said, "My name is Trautz"—I said, "You are the party mentioned in this matter; how do you spell your name?"—he wrote it in my book—I read the warrant to him—he said, I "I know nothing about it"—I said, "You have been to Fleet Street for letters"—he said, "Yes, I went up there once for my brother when he was queer"—I said, "You are the party mentioned in this warrant, and you will have to go to the station with me"—after we had searched the house he was taken to the station—I went back to Emile and said he would have to go to the City—he wanted to go back and see his wife first—the Trautzes were taken to Bridewell and detained—the warrant was read to them; they made no reply—when Emile saw his brother in custody he said he had nothing to do with the matter; he merely sent his brother for letters when he was queer—on 9th August I saw Fruhling in custody at Bridewell Police-station between 10 and 11a.m.—I said, "Your name is Fruhling?"—he said, "Yes"—I said., "I am a police officer. I hold a warrant for your arrest for conspiring with Alexander and Emile Trautz and obtaining a quantity of goods in different parts of the country"—he said, "I never obtained any goods. I merely wrote the letters; I did not sign them"—I read the warrant—he said "I know nothing about it"—I said, "You were trading as Krall and Webster in the Minories last year?"—he said, "I was not; I was merely a clerk. I wrote the letters; I did not sign them"—I said, "Who did sign them?"—he said, "Francks. I have known Francks for some years; he was introduced to me by Masters, whom I have known for twenty-five years"—I read the warrant to him—he said he did not know anything about it; he merely wrote letters for these people, who could not write English; he got his living by translating, and that sort of thing—Emile at the Mansion House pointed to Fruhling, and said, "This is Alexander"—Joseph had been taken into custody the day before by Bacon—I afterwards went with Bacon and Austin to 5A, Stoney Lane, a small shop with a basement—there was no name up, but stuck on the door was a piece of paper, "If out, call at Mr. Cohen's, opposite"—in the cellar was a lot of straw and empty bottles, and three or four old account-books, relating to public-houses years before—there were no books relating to business within three or four years—I found there this half gross of fly-papers lying on the counter—the shop was shut up, except on Sunday morning, when a barrow with a board was put up outside, and things put on it, but then the shop was closed to the public—there was nothing in the front of the shop to show what kind of business was being done—on 14th August Joseph was with his solicitor at the Police-office, Old Jewry, where the whole of the goods from the house had been taken—Joseph, pointing to the fly-papers, said, "That is a sample; he asked me whether I could do anything with them; I said I could not"—I believe that Joseph does not hold a license now—I found documents at Joseph's relating to Walden and Co.

—I found two lots of documents purporting to be receipts for money paid to Trautz, dated 1892.

Cross-examined by MR. HARRISON. William Trautz gave his right name when arrested—I thought he was Alexander—he frankly admitted that he went to Fleet Street to get letters.

Cross-examined by MR. BUTLER. No key to fit the premises was found on Fruhling—he said he got his living by being a clerk and translating letters.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKE HALL. I only found half a gross of fly-papers; the value of them would be 2s. or 3s., I suppose—I remember when Joseph was a publican—he has also carried on the business of a commission agent for some years—there is a Sunday market in Stoney Lane, and there is a good deal of business done there—everything was put outside the shop—more business is done on Sunday than any other day; I have not been round there much.

Re-examined. I have been there on Sunday and seen the boards outside the shop, 5A—I have seen cricket bats, and stays, and footballs, and dog collars, and other things on the board.

SAMUEL BACON . Re-examined). At 9.30 p.m. on 8th August I went to the Red Lion, 94, High Street, Whitechapel, with Austin—I saw Joseph in a private compartment, and told him I had a warrant for his arrest—he said, "What for?"—I said, "I will read it to you"—I read it; it was for conspiring with Francks and others—he said, "I don't know Francks and Co. I know a man by the name of Trautz. I have sold some towels for him"—I said, "Have you any of them now?"—he said, "No, I sold them to a Mr. Marks, a shipping agent"—I said, "Have you done business with Trautz before?"—he said, "Yes"—I took him to Bridewell Station, where he was charged with the Trautzes—he made no reply.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKE HALL. I have known Joseph for fourteen years.

Joseph received a good character.

EMILE TRAUTZ, FRUHLING, and WILLIAM TRAUTZ— GUILTY . JOSEPH— GUILTY. of Receiving. FRUHLING then PLEADED GUILTY. to having been convicted of obtaining goods by false pretences in April, 1892, in the name of Henry Schwann, at Manchester. INSPECTOR CROSS. stated that in about forty other cases goods had been obtained in a similar manner from various parts of the country.— Five Years Penal Servitude each.

The COURT. concurred in the commendation of the police in this case expressed by the committing Alderman.