Old Bailey Proceedings Online (www.oldbaileyonline.org, version 8.0, 02 December 2023), November 1889, trial of BRUNO FELYERT KRANTZ (47) HENRI BOGAERTS (45) (t18891118-47).

BRUNO FELYERT KRANTZ, HENRI BOGAERTS, Deception > fraud, 18th November 1889.

47. BRUNO FELYERT KRANTZ (47) and HENRI BOGAERTS (45) , Unlawfully obtaining by false pretences from Eliza Adams certain cheques for payment of £78, with intent to defraud. Other Counts, for conspiracy to defraud other persons.



HAWTIN Defended.

LOUISA MARIAN PALMER . I am the owner of a house called Hillside, at Hampstead, which was let to Bogaerts in September, 1888, at £63 a year for three years—the rent was paid up to June this year—the September quarter was not paid—in consequence of some information, early in October I went to Hillside—I saw a servant and a young lady, Bogaerts' daughter, also a lady whom I took to be another servant, but neither of the prisoners—I made some inquiry there and elsewhere, and then went to victoria Mansions, where I saw Bogaerts—I asked him for the rent—

he said that the firm would pay it—I said I had nothing to do with the firm, only with him—he said that they owed him a lot of money, and when they paid him he would pay me—I said, "You are leaving Hill side tonight?"—he said, "No; tomorrow"—I said, "I have heard it is tonight"—he said, "No; tomorrow"—he had given no notice, and I said, "Do you know that in lieu of notice you will have to pay another quarter's rent?"—he said, "Yes, I quite understand that"—he under stood me perfectly when I spoke to him—some few days afterwards I returned to Victoria Mansions; I saw Krantz—I said I had come to see Mr. Bogaerts, and I asked for the key of Hillside and for the rent, as I had heard that the furniture was removed the day before—he said, "We have not left there"—he took an envelope from his pocket with some name and Hampstead upon it, saying that he had received it that morning—that was to convince me that he had slept there overnight; he showed me the postmark on the envelope, but I forget it—he said if Mr. Bogaerts did not get his money from the late firm, he himself would pay it, and also for any repairs that were wanted to the house—he drew my attention to the chambers they had taken, and of course I should know where to find them, as they could not leave such a large place in a minute—he gave me a reference, as to his being able to pay the rent if Bogaerts did not, to the Brazilian Ambassador—I said I did not want references so much as the rent, and I went away—I heard nothing from them—I called again, but could not see Bogaerts—after going to the secretary of the building I saw Krantz—he said that Mr. Bogaerts was engaged with two friends, and he left the room, saying he would fetch Bogaerts—after a while he came back; he said that Bogaerts was still engaged, and he showed me some pictures in the room, which they were bringing out as a patent, but they were waiting for the machinery to print them—I said I did not understand pictures; would he be good enough to tell Mr. Bogaerts that I had called for the rent?—I said I should not call again, but I should send my solicitor, and left—after that I paid another visit to Hillside, and in an inner bedroom there I saw a portrait of Krantz hanging over the mantelpiece—I have never been paid the last quarter's rent.

Cross-examined. The agreement with Bogaerts was in writing; he paid the two first quarters—the September rent was not much overdue when I went to see Bogaerts in October—he spoke in broken English; I could understand him—I heard that he was leaving, from the people next door, who are also tenants of mine—I put in a distress a little over a month after 29th September; the goods have been removed; I don't know what they will realise; I have received nothing yet—it was on the third occasion of my going to Victoria Mansions that some pictures were shown me—they were in frames—I could not say that I saw these (two produced).

LOUIS LYMAN . I am a watchmaker, of 26, King William Street, City—on 20th July last Krantz called on me; he introduced himself through a friend of mine named Zademan, who I used to do business with; he said, "I want to look at two or three things out of the window, "and while I was showing them he said, "You don't know me"—I said, "I have not that pleasure"—he said. "I recollect you; you used to do a deal of business with Mr. Zademan; I used to travel for him, and I shall be able to do a good deal of business with you"—he picked out some

goods to the value of £2, and said, "I will take these; I have only a cheque for £5, do you mind taking that?"—I said no, and I took it and gave him a pound or 25s. out—he said, "A friend of mine has just sold a patent for £30,000, and I shall want a few things for myself, and also for this gentleman, Mr. Bogaerts, "that they were taking a house—the £5 cheque was paid—on the Tuesday or Wednesday following he came again, and picked out some goods for himself amounting to £26—he said, "I have no money on me, but I have a cheque for £45; do you mind taking that?"—I said it was rather a large amount—this is the cheque; it is dated 31st July—he said, "It will be perfectly right; it is the same as you had the £5 cheque of; give me your cheque for £19, and date it the 3rd of August, and I pledge you my word that I will not receive the money for it till you receive the money for the £45 cheque"—I gave him my cheque for £19, but did not allow him to take the goods—he said, "I shall bring my friend Mr. Bogaerts in tomorrow to buy some goods for the house"—he came by himself next day, and said, "I have come to pick out some goods for Mr. Bogaerts; he don't speak a deal of English, but I am furnishing his place, and I will bring him down in the afternoon to complete the purchase"—he picked out goods to the amount of £94, and about half-past four he drove up in a cab with Bogaerts and a lady; they looked at the goods, and Bogaerts gave his consent to the purchase—Krantz introduced him; he said, "This is the gentleman that sold his patent for £30,000, Mr. Bogaerts"—he pointed out the goods he had selected, and Bogaerts said, "Good, good, good"—they asked me to send them home next day; I would not allow them to take them—Krantz said, "I am going to give a party, and I want some of the goods for the evening"—I think that parcel came to about £5, and I sent them, but the larger part are in my shop now; I never parted with them; I sent the £5 worth to 91, Hatton Garden, and got a receipt for them—Bogaerts gave me £2 later on—I got this cheque for £100 as a deposit. (This was dated 25 th July, drawn by Richard Frowan and Son, on the City Bank, in favour of Krantz, and endorsed by him)—Bogaerts said that Krantz would pay me £94 for the goods, and I should return the cheque, that was to show it was a bona-fide purchase—three or four days before my £19 cheque became due I went to 91, Hatton Garden, to see Krantz—they said he was not at home—I said I knew he was, and after a good deal to do he came down—I said to him, "You know this is nothing but a swindle, and unless you turn up my £19 cheque it will be the worse for you"—he said, "You will get it all right; wait a day or two"—I said, "I think I have waited long enough; I am determined to have my cheque tonight".—he said, "I can't do it"—I said, "What have you done with it?"—he said,. "I have changed it, and I can't give it you"—I said, "Who has got it?" and after a good deal to do he said, "Mr. Simmonds, of Houndsditch" that he had the cheque and £4 worth of goods for it—when he found I was going to take proceedings he said "Don't make any more noise, I will be down at your shop in the morning"—he came in the morning with his father-in-law, Mr. Muller, who is housekeeper at 91 A, Hatton Gar den—after some talk Krantz said, "If you wait till tonight your money shall be ready"—I said I would give him another chance—he came in the evening with Bogaerts—I said, "This is only a swindle; I am determined to be paid my money one way or the other"—he said, "No, it is not, we

can't pay you tonight; we will pay you in two or three days"—I said, "If you mean bona-fide give me £10 tonight"—he said, "I can't do it"—I said, "Give me five"—he said, "I can't"—I said, "Give me two, "and Bogaerts put down £2, and said, "I will come and fetch the rest in two or three days, "and I saw no more of them—I paid the two cheques of £45 and £100 into the bank, and they both came back, "No account"—I stopped my own cheque of £19 next day—I saw Mr. Simmonds; I am sorry to say he is the victim through my foolishness—I afterwards received this letter from Krantz. (This was headed in lithograph, "The Bogaerts Patent Developing Company. Capital £100,000; 91A, Hatton Garden. August 13th, Dear Sir,—I have arranged with Messrs. R. Frowan and Co., and shall in a day or two restore you your cheque of £19; at the same time I will settle for the goods sold.—Yours truly, F. Krantz."

Cross-examined. Bogaerts has had no goods of me—I would not send them—he put down the £2 to show his bona-fides—the two cheques of £45 and £100 are not endorsed by him—he did not speak a deal of English—he was not present when Krantz said he had come to buy goods for him—they came together afterwards; Bogaerts did not say anything then; he consented to the purchase—I showed him a diamond ring, and Krantz paid they had bought £300 worth of jewellery at Mr. Barnett's, in Holborn—Krantz asked me to send the goods; Bogaerts did not, but he said he would come tomorrow and pay the £8, and then he would tell me where to send them—I did not know Muller; he told me he was the housekeeper at 91A, Hatton Garden, and I went and saw him there—Krantz first told me to send the goods to Hounslow, where he had purchased two houses.

JOHN DAVID SIMMONDS . I am an oilman, of 148, Houndsditch—on 23rd July I sent some goods to Hounslow for Krantz—I saw him on the 25th; he told me he had come to pay for the goods, and produced this £19 cheque of Mr. Lyman's, endorsed by both prisoners—the amount owing was a little over £3—at first I demurred to changing it; I had known Krantz years ago, or I should not have entertained it at all—I knew Lyman's shop, but not himself—Krantz said he wanted a cheque for £10 to send to Belgium to Madame Bogaerts; it would not be cleared for a week, and if I would let him have it and the balance in cash the goods could remain till they were cleared—I gave him a £10 cheque and £5 in gold—he asked me to make the cheque payable to Madame Bogaerts—a day or two afterwards I saw Mr. Lyman, and I at once wrote to stop the cheque, but it was too late—I afterwards saw Krantz on three occasions—first of all he came to see me; he was very much offended with Mr. Lyman, who had been to see him—he said his solicitor would bring the money that night or next day if I would give him Mr. Lyman's cheque—I said I would if he brought me the money—he did not bring it, so I did not part with it—I pressed him, and he sent me a bill for £20, dated 10th August, at two months—it was dishonoured; it was accepted by Krantz and Bogaerts.

Cross-examined. I had known Krantz twenty years ago—he was then at work as a walking-stick maker in the neighbourhood of Houndsditch—I have only seen him three times since—I knew his father-in-law better than I knew him, and he was with him when I changed the cheque—I did not see Bogaerts at all till some time afterwards.

WILLIAM SHEPHERD . I am a builder, of 101, New Road, Bermondsey

—I am the owner of Leadenhall Buildings, City—in August last I had some rooms to let there on the third floor—on the 1st I heard there were some inquiries about them, and this letter was handed to me by the house keeper. (This was headed, "Bogaerts Patent Developing Company. Capital £160,000, "and offered £100 a year for two rooms signed by Krantz and Bogaerts, managing directors)—two references were given, C. M. Muller. 91A, Hatton Garden, and H. Danzeker, Bow Lane—I received replies from them—I did not know that Muller was merely housekeeper there—I believed the application to be genuine, and a draft agreement was sent for their perusal; it was never completed—it was a tenancy for a year certain, commencing on 8th August, at £100 and 4s. a week for cleaning, between myself and Bogaerts, of Hall Road, St. John's Wood, three months' notice to be given—they entered into possession on 8th August, and furnished the office—they paid no rent, and gave no notice—they left; I don't know the date—the furniture was sold to the incoming tenant, and was applied to the rent.

Cross-examined. I did not go and see Muller—I caused him to be written to, and received a reply, also one from Danzeker—in consequence of those two letters I let the premises to the prisoners—half a quarter was due on 29th September—I have not received anything from the incoming tenant; he is to pay the same rent.

WILLIAM HILL . I am housekeeper at Leadenhall Buildings—acting on Mr. Shepherd's behalf, I let rooms 1 and 2 on the third floor to the prisoners in August—they came together and inquired about the rooms; I told them the rent—they said they wanted the office for the Bogaerts Co.—I asked them for references, and they handed me this piece of paper, with the names of Muller and Danzeker on it—I said inquiry should be made of them, and if satisfactory they said they would take the premises from the half-quarter, 8th August; they told me to have put on the door "The Bogaerts Patent Developing Company; capital £160,000, "and "B. Krantz" in the corner—they gave me this document, from which to prepare the agreement—I received the draft agreement from Mr. Shepherd; the prisoners took possession, and were there on and off from a month to six weeks—I saw them both there—I found out that they had taken offices at Westminster, and I went there with the agreement for Bogaerts to sign—I saw Krantz; he told me that Bogaerts was abroad, he would be back in a few days, and would sign it; he showed me over the rooms 8 or 10, and said, "Your offices are too small for us; you let them for me; of course we are answerable for them"—I said, "Of course you will pay me my commission"—he said, "Yes, £5"—I said, "No doubt I can let them"—I had the furniture valued by a licensed broker at £41; the incoming tenant took it at that price; I received the money, and handed it to Mr. Shepherd; that was the way he was paid—during the time the prisoners were there very few people came to see them, in fact they did no business there; they had not commenced their business.

Cross-examined. Krantz did most of the speaking; he negotiated, but Bogaerts always asked me what I was saying; he did not speak good English.

THOMAS HOCKLEY . I am the owner of 91A, Hatton Garden—neither of the prisoners was ever a tenant there—Muller was housekeeper there—he paid a small rent, as he had larger premises than were necessary for

a housekeeper—I believed he was Krantz's father-in-law; he visited him there—I have seen him there two or three times—I did not know of Muller carrying on any agency for somebody at Marseilles.

Cross-examined. He had been there since Christmas, 1884—he had the top floor, consisting of five rooms, for which he paid 8s. a week.

FRANK YARDLEY. I am secretary to the Westminster Trust Company—among other property they have Victoria Mansions—in August last we had some suites of rooms to let on the third floor of No. 4—larger offices than he had in Leadenhall Street; had we any to suit him?—he saw the rooms, and said he thought they would suit him—I asked what he proposed to use them for—he said for a large company he was connected with, which they were going to bring out in London; they wanted one for a kind of museum and showroom for pictures which were produced by Bogaerts' patent; he said the capital of the company was to be £400,000: they should not go to the British public at all; it was subscribed in the Continental cities by financiers who knew the value of the patents, and were willing to put their money into it; he said he was to be the general administrator and business director—I asked where their factory was: he said at present it was in the Finchley Road, but the aim of the company was to get all the patents for the Colonies, and foreign patents as well, and make it into one large company; that there was also a large factory at Belgium, where they were working; but they were in negotiation for the Albert Palace, and they intended then to stop the other factories, and carry it on in one large building, which would be more economical; he said he would bring Mr. Bogaerts to see the offices—he did bring him, and introduced him as the technical director—Bogaerts was how the rooms—I cannot tell you what he said—he did not speak to me, except an occasional sentence; the conversation was chiefly in French—he seemed very pleased, and thought they would do nicely—there were ten rooms; the rent was to be £450 a year—I asked for a reference, and said we made it a rule to get a banker's reference—he said they were only just started, that they were strangers here, and could not give any banker's reference, but would in a few days, and in the meantime he would refer me to Mr. Shepherd, the owner of Leadenhall Buildings; and it was arranged that I should go the following morning and take the agreement for signature, if I found the reference satisfactory—I accordingly went and saw Mr. Hill, who said he had the highest references with them, and could confidently recommend them—I then went and saw the prisoners together, and the agreement was executed and signed by both, and they took possession; five of the rooms were very nicely furnished—I did not know of their being in custody till I saw it in the papers.

Cross-examined. Krantz told me that the pictures were well known on the Contient—they were there from 30th August till the day of their arrest—I told Krantz that I had heard Mr. Bogaerts' name before, and that I had heard of the patents—I saw some of the pictures; they were pointed out as being produced by the company in Belgium; I saw these two, among others—I saw Colonel Perry, once I think, in the building; I did not know him at all in connection with the company until I heard of the Police-court proceedings.

WILLIAM EDWARD DIPPLE. I am salesman to James Lee, trading as

Atkinson and Co., furnishing warehouse, Westminster Bridge Road—on 5th September Krantz called and said he represented the Bogaerts Re united Patent Developing Company; he said that they had taken offices at Victoria Mansions, and desired to furnish them—he selected articles of furniture to the amount of about £100, which were delivered—I after wards saw him at the Mansions about other articles, and asked him for some money on account—he said the money would be paid on the completion of a certain scheme they had in hand—we had not supplied more then the £100 worth—he said the head office of the company was in Paris, and all accounts had to go through that house before they could be paid in London, but he said that ours would be passed through, with a note that it must have precedence, being a first transaction it must be prompt—he said they were in treaty with the Court of Chancery for the Albert Palace, that it would be completed on a certain day—I saw a plan of it on the table—he ordered further goods, but that was not executed—they had further goods, and we did some work at the place—our account altogether was about £217—nothing has been paid—I went one day to Krantz's office, and Bogaerts was sitting at the desk with him, and he said, "This is Mr. Bogaerts"—the plans were on an adjoining table.

Cross-examined. I made inquiry from the secretary of the Mansions before the £100 worth of goods were delivered—I saw Krantz on all the occasions; he acted as for the company—the only time I saw Bogaerts was in the office, occupying the same desk as Krantz—he did not say anything.

ELIZA ADAMS . I keep a private hotel at 35, St. James's Place—in October I was desirous of raising £4,500 on mortgage, and spoke about it to a Colonel Perry, who has been a visitor at my hotel from time to time; after that I met at a reception at Clapham Colonel Perry and Krantz—Colonel Perry introduced Krantz to me as Baron Krantz—I spoke to Perry in Krantz's hearing as to my failure in getting the money—after that I received letters from Perry, and on 9th October I went to Victoria Mansions—I asked for Colonel Perry; I was shown into Krantz's presence—he said Colonel Perry was not at home—I waited some time for him—while waiting Krantz showed me a plan of the Albert Palace, and said he had paid £25,000 for the palace, which he was going to rent to the Bogaerts Patent Developing Company—he showed me where he should have his own house built in the grounds of the Albert Palace—he asked me if I should like an appointment in the palace, and he would give me the management of the restaurant, at a salary of £500 a year—I was pleased to accept such a thing—when I said I must go he said, "I know what you want to see Colonel Perry about"—he said he had noticed my worried appearance, and he had asked Colonel Perry what troubled me, money or family troubles; and Colonel Perry had said family troubles—I said, "Nothing of the sort, it is money troubles"—I wanted to shift the mortgage, as the mortgagees wanted the money—he said he would enable me to do that, as I understood, by money advanced by the Bogaerts Company at 5 per cent.—he said they had brought out a patent for which they were to receive £1,250,000—he said he had a similar palace in Paris—I believed all his statements; I thought he was next to Baron Rothschild, as far as money was concerned—he said, "I know what was in Colonel Perry's last letter to you, he wants you to

write out some cheques"—that was the purport of a letter I had from Perry, and I came to tell him that I could not do it, as my banking account was too low—I told Krantz I came to say I could not do it, as my account was only just surviving—he said, "That is all I want; it is only the accommodation of your bank, it is not money I require"—he said there was so much money coming from Paris that he would pay £100 into my bank if I would just write the cheques out; they would not be paid till the money came—I believed that, and also that I could have the £4,500—I then wrote out ten cheques amounting to £78 2s.; four in favour of Krantz, three in favour of Perry, and three in favour of Bogaerts—Krantz gave me the names—this is the receipt he gave me for the ten cheques—it was understood those cheques were not to be presented until he paid in money to meet them, that day or the next—he said he would send me the money for the mortgage through the post, as it would be more legal—after that meeting I received through the post this letter of 11th October. (This, signed Bogaerts and Krantz, said it was their plan to take up the mortgage within a few days)—on the 10th I went, taking these four other cheques with me—I filled them in in the office under Krantz's direction—they were drawn to Bogaerts's order; they amounted to £79 5s. in all, one being for £25—they have been presented and returned marked "N. S, "and "account closed"—on 12th October I received an intimation from my bankers, in consequence of which on 13th I wrote to Krantz. (This said that she had heard from the bank manager, and that she would call at his office)—on Monday I went to the office and told Krantz what had transpired on Saturday, and asked him if he had received my letter; he said no—I found through being insufficiently addressed it had not reached him—I said I was surprised that the cheques had been sent through—he said it was a mistake, and that he would see to it at once—I was pacified, and went away quite content that it would be seen to—on the 15th I took him £6, and £18 on another day (it was all I had) to make up this deficiency as far as I could on the £25 cheque, one of the four I gave on the 10th—Krantz paid it to Bogaerts then—it is to the order of Bogaerts, and endorsed by him and not paid—on the 15th I saw Bogaerts in Krantz's office, and he introduced himself to me as a director of the Developing Company, and he said, "We are agreed that the company shall lend this money"—he seemed to understand all about it, but he did not understand very much English, I had very little conversation with him—Krantz introduced me to him as Miss Adams, who kept an hotel in St. James's Place, and said he had already spoken to me about the place of restaurant-keeper which I was to have—a day or two after I saw Bogaerts at the office, Victoria Mansions, and talked with him only about pictures—I next saw Krantz on the morning of the day he was arrested, the 24th—between 15th and 24th it came to my knowledge that a number of my cheques had been presented at the bank, and had been dishonoured—Krantz said the money was sure to come, I was not to worry—I was reassured down to the time of the arrest.

Cross-examined. I have known Colonel Perry about two years—he told me he had heard of my difficulty, and would get me the money, and he introduced me to Krantz—Perry wrote asking me to write eight cheques, and I went to him to say I could not do it—I understood Perry was one of the heads or secretary of the company—I did not see Bogaerts when

I first saw Krantz, but some time after that—I entered into arrangements to give cheques with Krantz alone; Bogaerts was not there—Krantz said he would lend me the money to pay off my mortgage, and then I could sell off the hotel and go to the Palace—Perry has not stayed at my hotel, but he has called there—Bogaerts showed me a great many pictures, and said he would take me round and explain the process they were going to bring out at the Palace; he explained that a picture like this would be sold for a shilling or so—the conversation between me and him related to pictures and the Palace—the office was beautifully furnished—Perry introduced Krantz to me as a rich man—Bogaerts spoke very broken English; but I spoke so plainly to him he said he understood every word I said—he had great difficulty in explaining him self—I spoke to him about my becoming the restaurant manager.

Re-examined. Krantz said the company's money was lodged in the Bank of England, and he did not wish to draw on that till a certain date, and that was why he wished to draw on my bank.

WILLIAM JAMES . I am superintendent of the private accounts in the Bank of England—neither Bogaerts nor Krantz, nor Bogaerts Developing Company had accounts there—neither individually nor Collectively.

SAMUEL HAYMAN . I am clerk in the Registrar's office of Joint Stock Companies at Somerset House—I have searched the register, and can find no trace of the Bogaerts Reunited Patents Developing Company, or the Bogaerts Patents Developing Company, or the Bogaerts Free Correspondence Company, or the Bogaerts Provident Sick Benefit Society, or the Bogaerts Panorama Company, or the Bogaerts Universal Company.

Cross-examined. The Bogaerts Engraving Company was registered on 6th March, 1888; the office was given as 46, Queen Victoria Street, and the nominal capital as £30,000 in £1 shares—I have the file of proceedings here.

Re-examined. The seven subscribers took one share each—there was a contract showing that Bogaerts had taken 29,993 shares.

EDMUND ALLABONE CHEVERTON . I am articled clerk to Mr. Macdermott, a solicitor acting as liquidator for the Albert Palace—any proposal with reference to the purchase of the Palace would come under the notice of my principal through our office—no one has purchased the Palace—neither of the prisoners made any offer to us for it—the Bogaerts Reunited Patents Company have not negotiated for the purchase of it.

BONIFACE KNAPP . I live at 3, Maidment Road, Burdett Road, Bow—four years ago Krantz called on my father, a schoolmaster, and stayed to tea—that was the first introduction—he was not a man of means then—on 7th September this year I went with my father to an office in Leaden hall Buildings, where I saw him—he took us into a private office, and explained a scheme he had for buying a building near the Mansion House for the purpose of displaying advertisements, which were to continually revolve on a sheet inside the building; as I understood—by the side of it was to be a free correspondence company, where anybody could write a letter free—there were also to be tables for eating purposes, with an invention by Krantz by which you touched a knob, and a dinner would appear under a desk—you touched different knobs for different

dishes—this was all under Bogaerts Free Correspondence Company—I went to Leadenhall Buildings every morning—I saw Bogaerts there—he and Krantz had meetings and conferences there, sometimes for many hours, in another room—he mentioned to me the Bogaerts Reunited Developing Company, to assist other people in bringing forward their patents—he said the capital was £3,000, which was subscribed abroad, and that the company was very vast in its extent—after that I went every day to the Victoria Mansions—I saw the prisoners there together in the same office—on 9th October Krantz asked me if I could change a cheque for him; he said he wanted some money by Saturday, and he was expecting some daily, but he wanted to pay a few small accounts—he said, "I don't like to pass a cheque through my own bank, because it looks so mean and paltry if I draw it out at once"—I said, "Of course I should have to cash it with a friend"—he said, "You need not trouble about that, it is all right, you can trust to me; Miss Adams owes me about £300, and she has about £200 to her credit in the bank"—I said I would see what I could do with it—this is the cheque—it is drawn, to Bogaerts or order—this is Bogaerts' endorsement on it; I know from seeing his writing in the office—Mr. Ayton, one of my father's trades men, cashed it—I paid the money to the prisoner on Thursday, next day—he gave me three other cheques, and asked me if I could change them—I said I would try—I went to Lloyd's Bank to see if they were all right—afterwards they were cashed—this for £10 was drawn to Bogaerts, and endorsed by him; the others were payable to Krantz, and were endorsed by him—I handed the cash for those three cheques to Krantz—he then gave me this cheque for £3 5s.; it was endorsed by Bogaerts—I was at Victoria Mansions up to within a day or two of the arrest—no business was done there—one copying-book was kept in which letters were copied; a directory was kept—the object was to obtain the Albert Palace, and I was waiting for that—at times Major Franklin was there—I understood him to be connected with the Albert Palace, an agent in negotiation for it.

Cross-examined. I cashed the cheque for £10 with Mr. Newport—the cheque for £25 5s. came into my hands, but I did not cash it; I passed it through Bardelow's banking account—I was at the Mansions to sell goods as soon as they were produced, and as a traveller—I saw pictures there; they were supposed to be reproductions, by the Bogaerts patent, of oil pictures—I had nothing to do with Bogaerts—I was in Krantz's private office; sometimes I saw him—he did not have an office to himself—four offices at Victoria Mansions were run into one another—Bogaerts was described to me as the technical director—I have only known him for the last eight weeks—Krantz told me about the Develop ment of Patents—Bogaerts had nothing to do with it, nor with the cheques—Krantz gave them to me.

Re-examined. While I was at Victoria Mansions Krantz mentioned the firm of Danzeker and Co.—I was to write letters to different firms, and make arrangements for the purchase of goods, which Mr. Lucas was to sell—Krantz was head of the firm; Lucas was also in it—its business was that of shippers—nothing was ever done beyond asking for prices—I once went to Hampstead about seven weeks ago and saw the two prisoners together in the parlour—that was just before the question arose of the cheques coming back.

By MR. HAWTIN. Krantz gave me the address to come and see them because he would have money that night to pay me something on account—I saw Bogaerts point pictures out to people at Victoria Mansions—sometimes I saw him at a desk, and sometimes in consultation with Krantz—I have seen Bogaerts's handwriting and signature half-a-dozen times—to the best of my belief it is his handwriting on these cheques.

GEORGE AYTON . On 10th October this cheque was brought to me, and I cashed it, believing it was a good one—I passed it through my bankers, and it was returned, marked "No account. "

Cross-examined. I spoke to Mr. Knapp about it.

MARIE GARLEY . I am bookkeeper to Mr. Kefford—I have Mr. Knapp for a customer—on 10th October he and his son brought the cheque for £5, which my master at their request cashed.

CHARLES KEFFORD . On 10th October I cashed this cheque for £10 15s. for James Knapp, brother of Boniface Knapp, believing it to be genuine—it was paid into the bank, and returned marked "Account closed. "

FRANCIS NEWPORT . I keep the Royal Hotel, Mile End Road—Mr. Knapp brought me this cheque, and, believing it to be good, I cashed it—I paid it in, and on the following day it was returned marked "Account closed. "

Cross-examined. After its return I saw Mr. Boniface Knapp, and he said if I took the cheque to Mr. Bogaerts, of Victoria Street, I should get the money, and he gave me one of Bogaerts' cards—my manager went there.

SAMUEL DYKE . I am a draper, of Mile End Road—I cashed this cheque for £5 for Mr. Knapp on 9th October—I paid it in; it was returned marked "Account closed. "

Cross-examined. I went to the office, Victoria Mansions, and asked for Mr. Krantz; he was refused; I did not see him.

EUGENE BRADSHAW (Sergeant K). I arrested Bogaerts, and Gibbons arrested Krantz, on 27th October—they were brought together to West-minster Bridge Railway Station, where Bogaerts said, "We are very sorry; we know we have done wrong, and there is no money to meet the cheques, and Colonel Perry is no good"—he laid stress on Perry, as if he had led him into it—I noted that down at the time—Bogaerts seemed to me to speak very fair English—we had a general conversation on the road; he understood me, and I him—I found on Bogaerts a quantity of foreign letters, German and French; a halfpenny in money—after they were in custody I went to their office in Victoria Mansions—I produce a number of documents I found there, among them this large picture of the Albert Palace and grounds, with two ground plans; this agreement, dated 20th October, under which Krantz purported to let, and the Bogaerts Company to rent, the Albert Palace at £100,000 a year; these paying-in certificates, under which the capital of the Albert Palace, or rather Bogaerts Company, is stated to be £40,000,000; a number of printed headings, some stating the capital of the company to be £3,000,000, and others £100,000—I found a number of bills from Robinson, tailor; Pearce, baker; Neal, butcher; a County-court

summons from Neal, dated 2nd October—a claim from the Hampstead Brewery, asking for settlement for £45; a bill for engraving a plate; two letters from Mr. Shepherd, asking for payment of the rent of Leadenhall Buildings; a letter from Atkinsons, the furnishers, with reference to a carpet—I also found a number of Bogaerts' business cards; and, as affecting Krantz, a number of bills, among which were bills from Messrs. Bailey, of Aldershot and Long Acre, coach builders, for phaeton, brougham, etc.; a number of very valuable things, amounting to nearly £1,000—among the documents was one describing Krantz as a Knight of the Rose of Brazil.

Cross-examined. I arrested Bogaerts at Victoria Chambers—I searched him at the Police-station—he spoke fairly good English—he made the statement on the platform of the station, after we had been waiting there a couple of minutes—Krantz was with us—they both said they were sorry—Bogaerts spoke first, and afterwards Krantz joined in with it; he said the same words—I took it down at the time—I did not say at the Police-court the statement was made when they were first arrested; that was a mistake of the clerk at the Police-court; Mr. Sims explained it—I found these papers at Victoria Mansions.

JOHN GIBBONS (Sergeant K). On 24th October I arrested Krantz—he said, "Cannot it be settled by paying the money?"—he was taken to the station—I searched, and found on him several cheques drawn on Lloyd's Bank in favour of Bogaerts and others, and signed by Miss Adams; some County-court summonses, summonses in Bankruptcy, applications for payments of accounts and bills for ponies, and so on; an application to open an account at the Joint Stock Bank; three cheques for £100 drawn in favour of Bogaerts, which had apparently been re turned, marked "N. S. "; and thirty pawntickets, the first being June 22, 1888, for a cigar-case, 6s., and others running from date down to 23rd October, 1889, for a watch, 7s.—all the pawnings are articles of small value; the total represented by them is £21.

Cross-examined. I found cheques on Krantz, drawn in favour of Bogaerts—I was at the railway station—I said nothing at the Police court about the statement made by the prisoners, only that with regard to Krantz.

CHARLES NEWMAN PILCHER . I am a clerk in Lloyd's Bank, 24, St. James's Street—Miss Adams is a customer of ours—on 21st October £2 15s. 5d. stood to her credit—the account was closed on 12th October, the balance of 13s. being then remitted to her—before and after that a number of cheques were presented on her account, and all returned dishonoured.

CHARLES FORD . I am a clerk in the employment of the City Bank, Holborn Branch—I produce a certified copy of the account of R. Frowan and Co., who were customers between 27th June, 1889, and 6th October—they paid in £137, and drew out against it—the account was closed at our request on 6th August.

The following Witness was called for the Defence.

HUBERT BOGAERTS . I am the prisoner's eldest son—I came to England about twelve months ago with my father—I was before then photographer in the Bogaerts Engraving Company at Amsterdam—that company made engravings by my father's woodcut process—my father was

employed there at £60 a month for about a year—he made the acquaintance of Krantz through Frowan and Co., of 64, Queen Victoria Street—Krantz was a clerk to Richard Koehler, who carried on business as Frowan and Co.—my father was treating with him to sell his patent—Krantz told us he should get £30,000 from his relatives in Paris; that he should get £3,000 at once for rent; that he had not been paid for a long time, but was expecting it every day—I went to the Queen Victoria Mansions—my father was technical director there, directing the making of the pictures—I saw these pictures first at Erfurt, Holland, where they were first made by my father's process—he had three or four hundred workmen there—it is a process of reproducing oil paintings—I saw similar pictures at Victoria Mansions—my father carried on the reproduction for more than ten years at Erfurt, Holland—we had three or four hundred workmen there, at a cost of 1,500 to 1,700 florins a week—it is a company now in Brussels—my father was connected with the patent engraving process, an imitation of woodcutting, which was carried on at Hampstead—this is another specification in the name of my father, accepted on 27th of July, in connection with a process for the reproduction of oil paintings, drawings, and photographs from nature—for ten years my father has been engaged in processes of this kind, I know—I am only twenty.

Cross-examined. My father came to England about a year ago—he at once went to Hillside, Hampstead—he was not in England in March, 1888—I know nothing of this company being registered in March, 1888—146, Queen Victoria Street is an office of the Bogaerts Engraving Company—they are there now—I don't know what has become of Frowan or Koehler—I saw them, I think, last week at Mr. Danzeker's office—I made Krantz's acquaintance about six months ago—I met him at Koehler's, 146, Queen Victoria Street—my father was there at the time—he came to live at Hillside three or four months ago—he came to live there four, five, or six months after I met him—that was before they went to Leadenhall Street—there is a factory still going on at 10, Clayton Road, Hampstead—no one is here from there—my father was at Brussels for some time—he went into liquidation at Erfurt about February, 1884—he was not carrying on this large business after that time—I cannot say what he failed for—after his bankruptcy the thing was sold to a company—I don't think his creditors were paid; I don't know—he came here from Brussels—I knew Koehler a long time before I knew Krantz—he met Krantz in Koehler's office about six months ago, and was introduced to him—I don't know what Koehler was here about ten years ago when he was with us he was a director—I don't know what business he carried on in Victoria Street—he had a business—I saw lamps and pictures; no watches or clocks; I cannot say about cloth—I don't know what he was.

Re-examined. When I saw Koehler a little while ago in Danzeker's office he was ill; I don't know what was the matter with him—I was about fifteen when my father was bankrupt—I cannot say when the bankruptcy was annulled, or if he obtained his concorda.

GUILTY on both counts— Twelve Months' Hard Labour each.