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On the Queen's Commission of



The City of London,





Held on Monday, July 23rd, 1900, and following days,

Before the Right Hon. Sir ALFRED JAMES NEWTON , Bart., Alderman, LORD MAYOR of the City of London; the Hon. Sir JOHN CHARLES BIGHAM , Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's High Court; Sir JOHN WHITTAKER ELLIS , Bart.; Sir DAVID EVANS , K.C.M.G.; Sir WALTER WILKIN , K.C.M.G.; and Lieut.-Col. Sir HORATIO DAVIES , K.C.M.G., M.P., Aldermen of the said City; Sir FORREST FULTON , Knt., Q.C., Recorder of the said City; Sir JAMES THOMSON RITCHIE , Knt.; GEORGE WYATT TRUSCOTT , Esq.; FREDERICK PRATT ALLISTON , Esq.; and THOMAS VEZEY STRONG , Esq., other of the Aldermen of the said City; and FREDERICK ALBERT BOSANQUET , Q.C., Common Serjeant of the said City; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and General Gaol Delivery, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.




W. H. C. MAHON , Esq.

J. D. LANGTON , Esq.




A star (*) denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars (**) that they have been more than once in custody—a dagger (†) that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.


OLD COURT.—Monday, July 23rd, 1900.

Before Mr. Recorder.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-448
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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448. HENRY THOMPSON (38) , Burglary in the dwelling-house of Henry Pugh Lloyd, with intent to steal.

MR. BOYD Prosecuted.

HENRY PUGH LLOYD . I am a dairyman, of 3, Brushfield Street—on Sunday afternoon, June 17th, I went out about 3 o'clock, leaving nobody in the house—I locked the door before I went—I returned about 9.50 p.m., and tried to get in at the front door, but was unable to do so—I thought I heard somebody at the door inside, and heard the door being bolted—I sent for a policeman, who eventually succeeded in opening it—everything in the house was upset—I did not miss anything—I do not know the prisoner.

Cross-examined by the Prisoner. I do not know if the door was locked—I put my key into the lock, but could not turn it.

WILLIAM BROGDEN (Detective, H). On June 17th I was in Bishopsgate Street about 9.20 p.m.—I saw the prisoner passing the end of Brushfield Street about 10 yards from the prosecutor's shop—I knew him before.

Cross-examined. I think you had a long drab overcoat on—I cannot say what kind of hat it was—I know your features well.

ROBERT LYON (City Detective). I examined the premises at 3, Brushfield Street on the morning of June 18th—I found that the box staple had been forced from the door post on the first floor landing—there was a small swing window about 2 ft. by 15 in.—it had been wrenched from its socket and laid on one side, and some person had gone out through it on to a low roof which belongs to 70, Bishopsgate Street, which is a restaurant, where I noticed that a first floor window was open; it is about 2 1/2 ft. from the window in Brushfield Street—anybody could walk in and downstairs and out at the front door.

Cross-examined. I do not know you.

ALICE JORDON . I am employed at 70, Bishopsgate Street Without,

which is a restaurant—on Sunday, June 17th, I was going to the restaurant about 10 p.m., and I saw the prisoner coming out at the door—the shop was not open for business that night—I next saw him on the 19th at the Police-station, and picked him out from among others.

Cross-examined. I picked you out by your face as well as by your overcoat—I told the police I should know you if I saw you—there was a pretty good light there.

JAMES COLLINS (City Detective). About 8 p.m. on June 19th I saw the prisoner in Brushfield Street—I told him I was a police officer, and, that he answered the description of a man that I wanted, and that he would be charged with breaking and entering No. 3, Brushfield Street—he said, "All right, sir"—I took him to the station—he was placed among eight more men, and was picked out by Alice Jordon—I asked him for his address—he would not give it to me, or any account of himself.

Cross-examined. You said to me, "All right, I will go with you"—there was no man at the station who said to Jordon when she picked you out, "You have made a mistake; it was me"—I asked you three times if you were satisfied with your position among the men; you said, "Yes"—I asked the young woman three times to be quite sure, and she said she was quite sure.

By the COURT. I never remember a witness picking out a man, and then another man saying that the witness had made a mistake, and that he was the man—if such a thing did happen I should detain that man.

ALICE JORDON (Re-examined). When I identified the prisoner I did not hear another man say, "You have made a mistake; I am the man."

JAMES COLLINS (Re-examined). No other officer who was present at the identification is here now.

The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate:'I have never been inside the house in my life."

The Prisoner, in his defence, on oath said that he had been previously convicted, that he had been brought into this case by Brogden, that he had not been in the house, and if he had he would not have stopped in the neighbourhood, as he knew the police had seen him that evening. GUILTY .

He then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction of felony on February 9th, 1898. Three other convictions were proved against him.— Eighteen Months' Hard Labour.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-449
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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449. HENRI BEUVENISTI (22) , Feloniously forging an order for the payment of £5, with intent to defraud.

MR. DAVIS Prosecuted, and MR. AVORY Defended.

During the progress of the trial the JURY stopped the case on the ground of insufficient identification, and returned a verdict of NOT GUILTY .

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-450
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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450. HENRI BEUVENISTI was again indicted for unlawfully obtaining from Lizzie Grundler £5 by false pretences.— No evidence was offered.


23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-451
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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451. WILLIAM WILKINSON PLEADED GUILTY to a burglary in the dwelling-house of Joseph Summers and stealing a handkerchief and£1 6s.; also to burglary in the same house and stealing £4 10s. 6d.; also to breaking into the warehouse of the Wood Green Steam Laundry Co., and stealing therein various articles of clothing; having been convicted at this Court on April 10th, 1899. Another conviction was proved against him.— Eighteen Months' Hard Labour.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-452
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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452. ALEXANDER McKENZIE. otherwise ETHERINGTON [Pleaded guilty: see original trial image] , to obtaining from Charles Hindle £3 10s. by false pretences; having been convicted of a like offence on November 12th, 1895. Two other convictions were proved against him.— Twelve Calendar Months.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-453
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceMiscellaneous > sureties

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453. GRACE SAUNDERS [Pleaded guilty: see original trial image] , to stealing four coats, the property of Abraham Lazarus, her master; also to stealing eight coats, the property of Morris Goldberg, her master. Discharged on recognizances.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-454
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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454. THOMAS ADAMS GOOGH (26) [Pleaded guilty: see original trial image] , to stealing post letters containing postal orders for 10s., 20s., and 20s., the property of H.M. Postmaster General, he being employed under the Post Office.— Nine Months' Hard Labour.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-455
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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455. ROSE McCLARY, (21) [Pleaded guilty: see original trial image] , to forging an order for the payment of£7 11s. 7d. And

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-456
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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(456) MARIE RANE (28) [Pleaded guilty: see original trial image] to unlawfully abandoning a male child under the age of 10 years in a manner likely to endanger its health— Five Days' imprisonment.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-457
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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457. CLARA BUDGEN , feloniously marrying Chas. Moy, her husband being alive.

MR. LYNE, for the Prosecution, offered no evidence.


NEW COURT.—Monday, July 23rd, 1900.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-458
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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458. SAMUEL NEALE (28) , Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.

MR. PARTRIDGE Prosecuted.

DAVID MCKINLEY . I am barman at the Haberdashers' Arms, Pitfield Street, Hoxton—on July 7th, about 10 p.m., I served the prisoner with a half-pint of ale, price 1d.; he tendered a bad shilling; I tried it with my teeth, and gave it to the landlord, who asked him if he had any more money; he said "Yes," and tendered another bad one; the landlord told him to stop while he sent for a constable, and he did stop.

THOMAS AMPLEFORD . I keep the Haberdashers' As—on July 7th McKinley handed me a bad shilling and pointed out the prisoner to me; I said, "You have tendered my barman a bad shilling;" he said "Did I?"—I asked how many more he had got; he produced another; I said, "This is a bad one, too," and jumped over the counter, called a constable and gave him in charge.

ROBERT TURNER (Police Sergeant, G). The prisoner was given into my charge—I took him into the passage and found on him a good six-pence, sixpence and five small packets of tobacco, which he was allowed to keep—he was sober, he was charged with uttering at the station, and said, "I am innocent," and when the charge was read over to him he made no reply—he gave his name as Samuel

Neale, but refused his address—he said, "I refuse to give any account of myself"—on the remand I asked him again; he referred me to Mr. Somerton, the foreman of the painters and decorators—I went there, but found no one answering to his description—he said nothing about having got the coins in change, till after he was committed for trial.

WILLIAM. JOHN WEBSTER . I am Inspector of coin to H.M. Mint. These two shillings are bad, and of different dates

The Prisoner, in his statement before the Magistate, and in his defence, said that he must have taken the coins in change, and did not know they were bad. GUILTY .— Three Months' Hard Labour.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-459
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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459. EDITH SPARKES PLEADED GUILTY to forging and uttering an order for £2 13s. 4d., also another order for £2 13s. 4d., with intent to defraud.— Six Months' Hard Labour.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-460
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > penal servitude

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460. JOHN GRANT (29) , Stealing 45 1/4 yards of silk, the property of Francis Cook and others.

MR. DE MICHELE Prosecuted.

WILLIAM. BURBY . I am salesman to Messrs. Cook and Son, of St. Paul's Churchyard—on July 13th, about 1.45, the prisoner came into the silk department—he had a blue overcoat on—Mr. Young took a patern from him for the purpose of matching it—I saw some silk shown to him, and the salesman left him to get a price list; I went behind a fixture and watched him and saw him take a piece of silk from a stack on the counter and place it under his overcoat and button it—there were 45 1/4 yards, value £6—I went round and informed the salesman—I went with Young and asked him some questions while the manager was being fetched—he was very much excited, and very anxious to get away—I took him to the end of the warehouse—the silk was not on him, it was found on the counter about two yards from the stack—I charged him with stealing a pieceof silk—he made several statements—I do not think his coat was buttoned when the assistant came back—I had lost sight of him for a few minutes.

Cross-examined by the Prisoner. I think there were seven assistants in the shop—it was about lunch time—I detained you 10 minutes or a quarter of an hour at the back of the warehouse, not where the silk was found—I did not find it myself.

JOSIAH SAYER . I am a salesman to Cook & Co.—on July 13th I found this piece of silk about two yards from its original position on the stack, which had been built two hours previously.

Cross-examined. It is not possible that somebody took the silk off the stack in my absence, I can swear that nobody else touched it—I looked immediately, I did not wait 10 minutes and then look.

ALBERT EDWARD YOUNG . I am a salesman to Cook, Sons & Co.—I saw the prisoner come in between 1.30 and 2 o'clock—he produced a pattern of silk and asked if I could match it—I said that we could not; it had a pink edge—I showed him three pieces having different edges, but net this piece—this has not a pink edge, but I found some of the same quality—I went away for a price list; Mr. Burby spoke to me and I spoke to the manager and then to the prisoner—he said that the goods were for Mr. Daniels, of Kentish Town—he had a particularly

heavy overcoat, considering the weather, and just at that time he adjusted it and buttoned it up—he was agitated, and seemed in a hurry to get away—he endeavoured to get past me, but was detained till the manager arrived and taken to the back of the warehouse.

Cross-examined. You said that you wanted a half piece 35 or 40 yards—I did not cut you any—I asked you questions to detain you, and kept hold of you.

By the COURT. Burby came up and said, "Young, that man has a piece of silk under his coat"—there was a wooden screen on the counter, owing to which he was out of my sight for a second or two—I went on the other side of the screen 15 ft. from the prisoner, who came to the end of the screen, looked round and disappeared again.

CHARLES CLARKE (218, City). I took the prisoner at Messrs. Cook's—on the way to the station he said "I never touched the silk"—I found on him 1s. 5d., 14 pawn-tickets, and several patterns of merino.

The Prisoner, in his defence, stated that he never touched any silk, that if he had found what he wanted he should have gone back in a day or two and ordered it, and that he only opened his coat as it was a very hot day.

GUILTY .—He then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction at Clerkenwell on April 23rd, 1894, and four other convictions were proved against him.— Three Years' Penal Servitude.

OLD COURT.—Tuesday, July 24th, 1900.

Before Mr. Justice Bigham.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-461
VerdictNot Guilty > non compos mentis
SentenceImprisonment > insanity

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461. JOSEPH JOHN HUTTON (40) , Feloniously wounding Eliza Hutton, with intent to murder her.

MR. JOHNSON Prosecuted.

Upon the evidence of Dr. James Scott, the medical officer at Holloway, that the prisoner was of unsound mind, and unable to understand the nature of the charge, the JURY returned a verdict to that effect. — To be detained during Her Majesty's pleasure.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-462
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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462. JOHN COLLINS (15) Unlawfully attempting to adminster certain noxious things to William Lewis, and causing them to be taken by him with intent to injure or annoy him.

MR. HUGHES Prosecuted.

WILLIAM LEWIS . I am manager of the Wood Street Temperance Hotel, City, which belongs to the British Tea Table Co.—I entered upon my duties there on June 2nd—the prisoner was acting as a waiter there—I had to complain of him on June 3rd and for about three days afterwards, after which he did his work all right—on June 27th, between 11 and 12 a.m., I wanted some tea and sent the prisoner to get some and a roll and butter, he returned with the tea and then went for the roll and butter; while he was gone I poured some tea into a cup from the teapot—it smelt very peculiar, and I was going downstairs to the manageress with the teapot when I met the prisoner—he asked me where I was going—I told him I was going to take the tea down to the manageress—he said he

would take it for me—he did not show any anxiety to take it—he asked me what was the matter with the tea—I said it smelt funny—he smelt it and said it did smell funny—I took it down and left it with the manageress—then I went upstairs with another cup of tea—the prisoner had coffee for himself—I told him that the manageress had said that something was wrong with the tea, and that she had got it—the prisoner threw his coffee away because he said there might be something wrong with that—I drank my tea—I went away for a few minutes, and when I returned there was another smell in the room—I asked the prisoner what it was—he said he did not know—I found a bottle in the dust-hole which had the same smell which I had smelt in the room the second time, but different from the first smell—I wiped the bottle and put it into my pocket—I found the key of a room which Collins had the right to use, which I had locked, and hung the key on a board, but I found it on the floor—I asked Collins who had used the key—he said that he had—I went into the room and found two more bottles there—I told Collins I had found two bottles, and he made no answer—I asked him if he had got the bottle which I had found in the dust-hole; he said, "Yes," and I said, "It must have been you who put the stuff in my tea" he said, "Yes, I did, but you did not drink it"—he pulled another bottle from his pocket and poured something into a teacup and pretended to drink it himself, until I took the bottle and the teacup from him—I asked him why he acted so foolishly; he said, "It does not matter"—I asked him why he had put the stuff in my tea; he said, it did not matter, but next morning he would be more particular, because he would bring up his revolver—I told him to aim straight—I had all the bottles in my possession then, and I went and told a policeman—I locked the prisoner in the room, but when I came back with the police-man he was gone—I saw him next in custody.

ELIZABETH RAINEY . I am a waitress employed by the British Tea Table Company, Wood Street—on June 27th the prisoner came and asked me to make a cup of tea—he came every morning for tea for himself and the manager—I made him a cup of tea and a cup of coffee for himself, and he took them away—soon after he had gone I noticed a very strange small—the manager came down and brought the tea cup, I put it away in a cupboard—it was not touched.

THOMAS STEPHENSON . I am an official analyst at the Home Office and a Doctor of Medicine—I have had two bottles handed to me, and have analysed them; one contains a solution of ether and iodine, which is only used for outward application and the other tea, and the constituents of the other bottle.

ALFRED CRITTLE . (429 City). On June 27th I was called to Wood Street by the prosecutor—two bottles were handed to me—I arrested the prisoner at 8, St. James' Place, Pall Mall, where he was employed as a porter at a chemist's shop—I said I should arrest him for attempting to murder William Lewis and attempting to commit suicide—he said, "I admit putting the stuff into the tea, but I deny having attempted to commit suicde"—I afterwards went to his uncle's place at Chelsea, and this revolver was handed to me and five cartridges, which his uncle had taken away from the boy.

The prisoner, in his defence, on oath, said that he put the stuff into the tea for a joke, that he did not intend to do any harm to the prosecutor, and did not know what was in the bottle.


NEW COURT.—Tuesday, July 24th, 1900.

Before Mr. Recorder.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-463
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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463. THOMAS GROVES PLEADED GUILTY to feloniously marrying Clara Hart, his wife being alive.— Two Days' Imprisonment.

23rd July 1900
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SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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464. PETER AITCHESON (25) [Pleaded guilty: see original trial image] , to committing an act of gross indecency.— Six Weeks' Hard Labour.

23rd July 1900
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VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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465. ELIZABETH LAING [Pleaded guilty: see original trial image] , to feloniously wounding Daniel Laing, with intent to do him grievous bodily harm, and to a conviction at Clerkenwell on September 5th, 1899. Five other convictions were proved against her.— Eighteen Months' Hard Labour.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-466
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment > penal servitude

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466. CECIL GROSVENOR WILLIAMS (25) [Pleaded guilty: see original trial image] , to unlawfully obtaining £50 from Phillis Rowell by false pretences, also to obtaining credit to the extent of £527 13s. 2d. from John Walker with intent to defraud.— Three Years' Penal Servitude.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-467
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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467. THOMAS ROGERS [Pleaded guilty: see original trial image] , to stealing a jewel case, the property of George Blows; also to stealing four studs and other articles, the property of George Bodman; also to stealing a case and a watch-chain, the property of Patrick McCormack; also to stealing 1s. 6d., the money of Frederick William Lucas.— Twelve Months' Hard Labour.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-468
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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468. CHARLES BROWN (34) [Pleaded guilty: see original trial image] , to feloniously marrying Alice Dallard, his wife being alive.— Two Days' Imprisonment.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-469
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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469. JOHN BAPTISTE PAWLEY (33) [Pleaded guilty: see original trial image] , to unlawfully taking May Gunby, aged 14, out of her father's custody, with intent, etc.— Nine Months' Hard Labour. And

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-470
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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(470) CHARLES THOMAS BEST (23) , to wilfully falsifying the books of the Pholochrom Co., his masters.— Twelve Months' Hard Labour.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-471
VerdictsGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown
SentencesNo Punishment > sentence respited

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471. ARTHUR HANDS (35) , Unlawfully obtaining 12s. 6d. by false pretences from the British Printing Press Co., Ltd. Other Counts: For uttering forged advertisements of the said company, with intent to defraud.



The prisoner withdrew his plea and PLEADED GUILTY to the forgery Counts, upon which Counts the JURY found him GUILTY , and NOT GUILTY on the Count for false pretences. He received a good character.— Judgment Respited.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-472
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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472. JOHN EDWARD JOHNSON and ADOLPHUS GIGENBERG , Stealing a bicycle, the property of the Triumph Cycle Company, Limited Second Count: Feloniously receiving the same.

MR. POYNTER, for the Prosecution, proceeded on the Second Count only, and the RECORDER considered that there was not sufficient evidence.


23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-473
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > penal servitude

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473. ALBERT WHITE (20) , Robbery with violence on William Bowles and stealing a watch, a chain and a seal, his property.

MR. JOHNSON Prosecuted.

WILLIAM BOWLES . I am a cooper, of 118, Stepney Green—on June 30th I

was in White Horse Lane at 9.30 p.m., and the prisoner asked me if I would give him a light—I did so—he put his arm round my neck, threw me down and took my watch, worth£7 10s., and my chain, worth£5 10s.—he got away with the seal—I identified him at the station the following Tuesday, from 10 or 12 men—I have only been able to do light work since the assault, and am still in plaster—I was in bed four days.

PATRICK STEPHENS (Detective H). On July 2nd, at 8.30 p.m., I saw the prisoner on Stepney Green—I said that he answered the description of a man who committed a robbery on Saturday night—he said, "If I had known you would have asked me for that watch, you would not have seen me for eight years; I should have been in the Army"—afterwards he called out to a man, "They have got me for that job on Saturday night," and struck me on my jaw, and I fell, and struck him—I took him to the station, and the prosecutor identified him—he said nothing—he afterwards said, "That man is wicked; he lost nothing"

The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate: "I did not snatch the watch; I am innocent."

GUILTY .—He then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction on December 15th, 1891, at the Thames Police-court. Three other convictions were proved against him, and he had been twice dismissed from the Army with ignominy.— Five Years' Penal Servitude.

THIRD COURT.—Tuesday and Wednesday, July 24th and 25th, 1900

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-474
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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474.— REUBEN SUTTON HAMBLEY (20) PLEADED GUILTY to attempting to obtain by false pretences from Charles Primock 13 quarters of beef, and to obtaining by false pretences from Harold Thomas and others 10 quarters of beef and other property, with intend to defraud.— Four Months' Hard Labour.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-475
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty; Not Guilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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475.— EMILY SKEGGS (26) and CHARLES ERNEST SKIDMORE (24) , Unlawfully endeavouring to conceal the dead body of a newly-born child. SKIDMORE PLEADED GUILTY .— Three Months' Hard Labour.

MR. HORACE AVORY and MR. GRAIN Prosecuted.


23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-476
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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476. THOMAS SAWYER (41) , Stealing six suits of clothes and other goods, belonging to William Howarth, in a vessel on the River Thames.

MR. MORGAN Prosecuted.

The JURY stopped the case for want of evidence, and returned a verdict of


23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-477
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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477. THOMAS SAWYER was again indicted for stealing a table-cloth on board the ship Batavia.

MR. MORGAN, for the Prosecution, offered no evidence.


23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-478
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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478. JACOB GREENBERG and ABRAHAM ATTELSON , Unlawfully failing to discover to their trustee in bankruptcy all their property. Other Counts: For other offences under the Debtors' Act of 1869. Fourth Count: Within four months before their bankruptcy disposing of, otherwisewise than in the ordinary way of their trade, timber, value £180 6s. 6d., which they had obtained on credit and had not paid for.

MESSRS. HORACE AVORY and MUIR Prosecuted, and MR. YOUNG, Q.C.,

and MR. EMANUEL Defended.

GEORGE INGLIS BOYLE . I am a messenger in the Bankruptcy Court—I produce the file of proceedings in the bankruptcy of Jacob Greenberg and Abraham Attelson, trading as Greenberg & Attelson, timber merchants, of 115, Bethnal Green Road—the petitioning creditor's petition is dated August 30th, 1899, the receiving order September 22nd, the adjudication October 6th, and the appointment of Mr. Bourner as trustee October 9th—from the statement of affairs filed by the bankrupt there is a deficiency of £1,197 13s. 10d., the liabilities are £2,079 6s. 4d., the assets £881 12s. 6d.—there is an original and amended statement—the name of Weinig appears among the contingent and other liabilities of the separate estate of Attelson—Weinig's address is Maplin Street, Mile End—he is described as a waiter and the amount as £25 for attendances at King's Hall on June 20th, 1899—on the file is an order of Mr. Justice Wright of May 8th, 1900, upon an application on the part of the trustee against Isaac Griew—the defendants were publicly examined on November 9th and other days—this is a transcript of the evidence which is on the file. (This was partly read.)

JOHN HUTTON . I have been connected with the firm of Leary & Co., timber merchants, for some years, including Christmas, 1899—they first did business with the defendants in March, 1898—up to June, 1899, the transactions were payments within a month, under discount—on June 2nd I saw Greenberg at the defendants' office—he offered to purchase about a car-load of oak which I wanted to sell—that is about 10,000 to 12,000 ft. superficial—I reported to my principals, and they agreed to supply—on July 24th the delivery order was sent, and this invoice—the amount is £117 13s. 10d.—the terms were the same as before, but we could not enforce them, the discount being 2 1/2 per cent. for cash in a month—after the timber was sent I saw Mr. Greenberg, who said he had seen Mr. Leary, and asked him for the return of the delivery order, and Mr. Leary handed it to him—I went to the meeting of creditors at Masons' Hall Tavern on August 15th, to represent Leary & Co.—a composition of 7s. 6d. in the £ was proposed, and ultimately I agreed to 10s. in the £, provided it was secure—no payment has been made of this account.

Cross-examined. I was in constant touch with the defendants—we had very few dealings—I found them straightforward—everything up to the last account was paid promptly—this was part of a special cargo of oak—the payment for this timber became due on August 24th—they offered it back—I refused to take it—our dealings amounted to £390 8s. 1d.—the profit they sold it at was at about one-eighth of a penny—it was sold for £139—it is not a good profit, to my mind—there was £22 profit on the transaction—I should call that a good profit.

Re-examined. If I had sold this timber to Griew & Co. they would have had to pay the dock charges over 72 hours, which are free—if not cleared till August 28th there would be full dock charges, about £12 or

£14—other charges for cutting, etc., were not likely—the timber would not be worth more, owing to the dock charges accumulating—I produce the cash account put in by the debtors—this cash account is not the same as the statement of affairs—the item in the account for £12 5s., dock charges, does not specify in respect of what timber such charges were made—I find in the account, an item of £100 paid into the bank on April 1st, 1899—the account does not say what it is for—it is, however, in the column headed "Paid into bank," and there is "A.A." against the entry—I find an item entered in the same column on June 19th, 1899, "A. Attelson, £100"—the total amount shown by the account to have been lodged in the bank, is £8,069, and the payments out were £8,483.

ERNEST LEARY . I am one of the firm of Leary & Co., of 4, Lombard Court—Mr. Hutton is in my service—I had personally nothing to do with the sale of this timber—after the sale, Greenberg called upon me, I think about the beginning of August—he said, "Your firm has given me a dock delivery for certain timber, but these goods are still lying at the docks, and I am being pressed by my creditors, and as I might not be able to pay for the goods, I think I ought to bring the dock delivery order back"—I said, "I don't think I can take the order back"—that was all the conversation on that day—he came again with his partner soon after—they then said they expected bankruptcy proceedings—I said, "Consult a solicitor"—there was some further conversation as to the former proposal to bring back the delivery order and my refusal to accept it—I gave them some explanation as to my reason for not taking the order back—that was the last time I saw them.

Cross-examined. I said before the Magistrate that the date of the second call would be August 4th—they then appeared to be consulting me as to what their line of conduct should be—they are somewhat illiterate.

ARTHUR JOSHUA POLAND . I am a timber merchant—last year I was in the service of Messrs. Moss & Co, of 88, Bishopsgate Street—on July 24th last year I was at the prisoner's office—I saw Greenberg—he gave me on order—this is the sale-note (Produced)—it is dated on that day—it is for walnut timber at 4 1/4 d. per ft.—the amount is, roughly, £180—the invoice(Produced) gives the exact sum, £180 6s. 6d.—it is dated July 25th, "ex St. Leonard—that is for walnut wood alone—this letter was sent on same date from my firm to them—the transfer order was given to them, and they would get the timber from the docks—I called on them less than a week after the transfer in consequence of something I had heard—I believe I saw Greenberg—I paid, "I think you have acted rather shabbily to us as I hear you have been served with two or three writs; give me the order back"—he said, "I cannot, as the walnut has already been sold"—we never obtained payment—the prisoners failed shortly after—I afterwards bought the walnut back from Mr. Griew, for which I gave £80.

Cross-examined. I was willing to take the timber back if I could have got it—I had no knowledge of any act of bankruptcy—I believe I dealt with these people for several years—up to this time I had always been paid properly—there was nothing different in this from any previous

transaction—I called upon them for an order in the usual course of business—Mr. Griew is, I believe, a brother-in-law of one of the prisoners—he is in a large way of business in the cabinet trade—Mr. Moss has dealt largely with him.

Re-examined. I got the wood back from Mr. Griew in August—I bought the wood back before the prisoners became bankrupt.

ARTHUR CHARLES BOURNER . I am a chartered accountant—I was appointed trustee in the defendants' bankruptcy on October 9th, 1899—I was present at their public examination on November 9th—I then saw for the first time the receipt for £175—it was handed me by Attelson—it is dated August 31st, 1899—I wrote to Weinig immediately at the address given in the statement of affairs, Maplin Road—the letter was returned to me—I wrote again, and that letter was returned—I first found Weinig when he was served by an officer for examination under Sec. 27—this account(Produced) shows total receipts in cash £7,852 1s. 6d.—there are also receipts which came from the bank—the cash account shows that they paid £7,857 8s. 9d., which includes cheques drawn in their favour—the amount drawn from the bank and paid away totals £15,809; that is, cheques drawn to pay creditors—the amount paid into the bank and the amount paid in cash total £16,533 16s. 7d., or £526 8s. 3d. more than they had received—the payments out include the amounts they drew themselves—the accounts show £6 a week drawn by each of them—at the end of the account is an item of £1,415, which purports to be in respect of cheques drawn by themselves—this entry is accounted for in the receipts—it is by putting that entry in that they arrive at the over payments—that was in addition to the £6 a week each—this accounts for the sum which they say they paid out in excess of what they received—there are also entries relating to bills amounting to £175, which are wrongly entered—the effect of these entries being wrongly made renders their account deficient £845 13s. 8d.—in the day book there is an entry dated August 28th, 1899, of the sale of timber to Isaac Griew—that gives the figures of the measurement of the wood, and £139 6s. 9d. as the price—I produce the cheque from Griew; it is for £135 17s. 2d.—that is loss 2 1/2 per cent. discount—it is dated August 21st, and drawn by Griew on the London and South Western Bank, Shore-ditch, and endorsed "Greenberg & Attelson"—they did not keep a proper cash book—there was nothing in their books to show what became of cheques and money represented by cheques—cheques were cashed over the counter, and money taken by Attelson—I found an entry showing what became of the walnut obtained from Mr. Moss—there is an entry on July 31st, £190 18s. 8d., and by the day book it appears to be walnut—they did not keep a ledger account for Mr. Moss.

Cross-examined. They are not skilful accountants—it came out at the public examination that during part of the time their staff of clerks consisted of one boy—I am the London manager of a timber association—I told the defendants I considered this a case of fraud, and that I had the authority of the creditors to spend the whole of the estate if necessary to secure a conviction—I was determined to do my duty as the creditors' representative—I cannot produce the original letters which I addressed to Weinig, and which were returned—I have the copies—the

address is entered as Caplin Street, but the C is altered to M—I did not look in the directory to verify it—Weinig handed his card to me at the examination, but I lost it—I sent the second letter to Maplin Street after that—I do not now know the correct address—in the first instance I got the address from the statement of affairs where Weinig appears as a creditor—I should say that Weinig was found at the address on the card, which was 29, Maidman Street—the address given as Weinig's in the statement of affairs of Attelson's separate estate is not in the writing of either bankrupt—I think it is in their clerk's writing—I examined Weinig before the Registrar—I cannot say that I asked him as to this £175, but he was asked as to the whole transaction—Leary's timber was bought for £117 on June 2nd—it was sold on August 28th for cash £139—I say that this was not disposing of the wood in the ordinary way of trade, as it was sold to a man who did not deal in walnut—the money was received by Attelson, who did not pay it to the firm's account—the timber bought from Mr. Moss for £180 was disposed of in the way of trade, but was sold to Mr. Griew, and supposed to be paid for by a contra account—the bankrupts' ledger shows a purchase of timber by Mr. Griew on November 29th, 1898, to the amount of £250 1s. 11d.—there is also an entry in the book to show that he had paid to the bankrupt £60, and another of £50, with no date; another cheque, £41 6s., no date; another £40, no date—these together total £191 6s.—they are all entered before December 2nd—I cannot say that there is any entry except the item of £250 for mahogany for which those smaller sums could have been in payment—the account is balanced just above those entries—the debtors stated that they had drawn to this extent from Mr. Griew as against this. mahogany which they had sold to him—I then find there is an entry as to mahogany returned—there is no date to that—it is between an entry of December 29th and one of April 14th, 1899—it appears from the account that on July 31st, when this walnut of Moss's was handed to Griew, that these people were owing him considerably more than £1981, but the entries in the books are of such a nature that I cannot say they are correct—the entry of the disposal of the timber to Mr. Griew for £74 6s. is perfectly accurate—up to the entry of May 25th last I have nothing to say—the entry in respect of the item £136 10s. is, I believe, correct, and represents the actual transaction between these people and Griew—the entry as to the £190 18s. 8d. for the sale of Moss's walnut to Griew is correct according to the day book—it is not properly placed in the account—it ought to be put before August 28th—with reference to the entry £34 3s. 3d., I believe that this is correct according to the books—if the four items on the other side of the account, amounting to £191 6s., were paid by Griew to these people, they are properly entered, subject to the want of dates, but I doubt if they were paid—without dates I cannot trace them—I admit the item for £7 5s. 3d., entered on December 2nd—I cannot trace the item on December 29th for £30; it is correctly entered there if it was paid—I have not been able to trace the next cheque for £50—the five bills for £140 15s. 8d., entered on April 14th, have not been paid—Mr. Griew has not met them—the next item, £16 19s. 2d., has not been paid—with reference to the item £74 6s., if the timber had been sold to Mr. Griew the entry would be correct but

misleading—it was apparently an entry between Griew on contra accounts; not with the firm, but with Attelson privately—the item for £139 6s., Leary's mahogany, is not right—they did not get that amount, but £139 16s. 2d.—the cash and discount should have been entered in two separate items—if these transactions took place with Griew, they were properly entered, but I do not think they did—I cannot trace them through any of the books—I have traced them in the cash accounts filed by the debtors, but the cash account is made up from the ledger, but they ought first to appear in the cash book.

Re-examined. The entry in the ledger as to item £190 18s. 8d. for Moss's wood, dated July 31st, appears here after an entry of August 28th, £139 6s. 10d., which is in respect of a sale of Leary's wood—if that was a genuine entry, I should not expect it to appear a month late—the reason I give for saying that the disposal of Leary's wood was out of the ordinary way of trading is, that at a meeting of their creditors, on August 15th, the debtors had produced a statement showing that they were insolvent; the property was not theirs to deal with—I pointed out to them that on August 22nd, when I made an investigation of their books, the creditors would wind up the estate in bankruptcy, and that they must not deal with any property in any way whatever—I told both of the debtors that—I had included Leary's wood among the assets—I was then at the docks—they told me that if the composition was accepted they would sell their assets to pay it—I did not report in favour of the composition—I wrote the second letter to Weinig on November 29th—the examination was on December 7th.

Evidence for the Defence.

ISAAC GRIEW . I am a cabinet-maker—I buy timber for the purpose of my business—I am Greenberg's brother-in-law—I have assisted these people in their business from time to time—I have sometimes advanced them money not strictly due—I have also lent them money—I remember Leary's oak transaction; I do not remember the date—I saw both prisoners—they said, "We have a parcel of oak we want to sell you," and that they had made a proposition of so much in the £ and the trustee had told them to go and find the money—they asked me to buy the oak for cash; I said that I would do my best—I gave them a cheque for £135 17s. 2d.; with discount that would make £139 6s. 10d.—I paid them the cheque on August 31st—I produce the cheque signed by my firm—I remember Moss's transaction at the end of 1898—I agreed to buy a lot of mahogany for £250—I eventually got them to take that mahogany back, as it would not suit my purpose—between the time of my buying the mahogany and their taking it back I advanced them money—I have not any books in which these entries appear—I let them have bills for £60, £50 and £60, and two cheques, one for £45, and another the amount of which I do not remember—I have not my pass books here—I saw their books, and found the account correct—I produced my banker's pass book to the trustee—I advanced nearly £200 before I bought the walnut—down to the end of July last the bankrupts paid me per contra account by this parcel of walnut—they paid me in money before I got the walnut—I had had a number of transactions with them which had been settled—at this time about £200 remained owing—at

the end of July I pressed for my money, but I did not take proceedings; they, however, sold me the parcel of walnut as a contra account—the price at which I took over the timber was £190—I employ about 50 men in my works—I am constantly buying timber of all sorts—I do not deal with Leary, but I do with Moss—I generally buy timber in large quantities; I buy cargoes.

Cross-examined. I do not deal in walnut as a rule, but I am making some walnut furniture now—when I bought this walnut from the prisoners I did not know they were in difficulties—Greenberg is my brother-in:law—I knew the prisoners could not pay me money—when I was examined before the Registrar in the Bankruptcy Court I might have said that I did not press for the money, that is, I did not sue them, but I asked them for the money—I knew if the prisoners had had money, I should have been paid, so I took this walnut instead—although they owed me £200, I had no account thereof in the books—I produced my pass book at the Bankruptcy Court—I can prove there were entries of cheques paid for money lent—I think the trustee has seen the pass book once or twice—it is now at the London and South-Western Bank—I know the difference between a crossed cheque and an open one—I sometimes paid the prisoners in crossed cheques, and sometimes open ones—this cheque, £130, was a rather large amount; I do not remember whether I was asked to leave it open—something was said about their having to pay dock charges—I had a receipt for the £135—it has been produced once, and I daresay I can find it, but I did not know I was to be called as a witness—Mr. Bourner has seen the receipt—I know Mr. Weinig is here to-day, but I never saw him before—I am no scholar—I cannot tell when I gave the defendants the bill for £50, but it was about 18 months ago—the bill for £60 would be a bit longer than that—I produced all the bills I had; some of them were for timber, and amongst them were bills for money due to me—I had a notice at the Bankruptcy Court to produce these bills, and I swear I produced the bills for £50 and £60—all my bills and books are at my place in Hoxton Square—I say they owe me certain money now, because I had to give the walnut up, and I have to pay to the trustee the price of the oak—the Court has ordered me to pay £139 and £190—I say that the estate owes me about £250—in August last year, after the walnut transaction, the prisoners owed me about £200—I knew there was a meeting of creditors, but I did not go, as I thought I had got all I should be likely to get.

Re-examined. I had no doubt that on July 31st the prisoners were owing me about £200—it is true that I got this timber from them by an arrangement that it should be set off against the debt—that was a real transaction—I will find my books now, but it will take half an hour to do so—(The witness fetched his books)—I have brought the receipt for £139 6s. 10d., a statement which was sent in by Messes. Greenberg & Attelson, and a receipt for £190 18s. 9d., which is entered as paid by contra account—this is the bill for £60, for moneys advanced to the prisoners prior to having the mahogany—the date of the bill is February 28th, due July 31st, 1898, and accepted, payable at the London and South-Western Bank, Shoreditch Branch—here is the cheque for £50 that

I spoke of—I have a statement before me which I received from Greenberg & Attelson—I cannot remember when I got that, but it was before the prisoner's bankruptcy—the prisoners gave me credit in the statement before me for the bills for £60, £50, the cheque £41 6s., and the cheque £40, making £191 6s.—one of them was a customer's cheque—they had the money for the bill of February 28th, 1898, which expired on July 31st.

DEBORAH ATTELSON . I was married on June 20th, 1899—my wedding was celebrated in King's Hall, Commercial Road—a good deal of money was spent upon the wedding—I had four dresses—I did not pay for them—a friend of my father's, Mr. Weinig, bought them for me—I remember Mr. Weinig coming to see my husband one evening—he asked my husband for money, as he was being pressed for money for the expenses of the wedding—he also said that his wife was confined, and he must have the money—my husband then paid Weinig about £175 in gold, and got this receipt, "Received from A. A. £175 in payment for goods supplied for wedding purposes"—that was signed in my presence.

Cross-examined. It is not usual for a husband to provide the expenses of the wedding, nor for the bride's dresses—my father is a furrier, and is comfortably off—I believe my husband took £3 per week when he was married—Mr. Weinig paid for my dress; my husband told him to get everything necessary, and he would pay him afterwards—my father had given my husband the money previously—when Weinig came for the money I had been married seven or eight weeks—up to that time nobody had been paid the expenses of the wedding, for which credit had been given to about £200—I do not remember Mr. Weinig showing my husband receipts for money paid, but he would have no need to show them to me—my husband paid Mr. Weinig £175 in gold, which he took from a paper bag in his pocket—he counted the money on the table, and then Mr. Weinig counted it—nobody else but we three were present.

Re-examined. Before I was married my father gave my husband money for the expenses of the wedding—I was living with father at the time in Commercial Road—a dinner, supper, and tea was given at the hall, and about 60 couples sat down—Mr. Weinig was the contractor, and he ordered the waiters, cooks, etc.—the food was cooked in the hall.

LOUIS WEINIG . I am a furrier—I know Mrs. Attelson's father, who is also a furrier—my trade has its seasons, and I do other things when there is no season—I undertake such things as weddings—when I heard that Mr. Attelson was to be married I went up to his intended father-in-law, Louis Girdler, and begged for an introduction to his intended son-in-law, so that I could have the job of the wedding—that was about June 20th, about four weeks before I took the job—the furrier trade is slack in the summer, until after the August Bank Holiday—the arrangement I made with Mr. Attelson was that I should provide everything necessary for the wedding, including refreshments for 100 couples, also cabs and carriages, one suit of clothes for the bridegroom, and four dresses for the bride—that was all to be provided for £200—the festivity took place at the King's Hall, Commercial Road, on June 20th, and it was well done—there was breakfast, dinner, and supper, after which there was a ball, and I engaged musicians—I did this all on credit with people I knew—I

knew the steward at the King's Hall—I bought the food and engaged waiters and cooks—the King's Hall is a place for weddings and parties, and there is a kitchen and dining-room—I called on Mr. Attelson a fortnight after this for payment, when he said, "I shall pay later on"; and I called again about three weeks later, and said that I was pressed for the money; I said I would not leave without it—he said, "If you must have the money I will give you £175," and he still owes me £25—this is the receipt, dated August 31st; it was produced when I was examined at the Bankruptcy Court—my correct address is 29, Maidman Street, Burdett Road, Mile End—I have never lived at Maplin Street or Caplin Street—I do not know any such street.

Cross-examined. Mr. Attelson knew my address—when Attelson gave me this job he asked where I lived, and he wrote it down on paper, and on the agreement he gave me—he knew my address before he trusted me with the £200 job—I try to make up my earnings to about £150 a year—I knew most of the people from whom I got credit—the wedding cost me about £167, and I should have made £33 if I had been paid £25, the balance—the people who gave me credit were tradespeople who had known me for years—I have lived at my present address two years—I got the carriages from a man named Abraham Levy, who has got a yard in Petticoat Lane, now called Middlesex Street—the dinner, tea, and supper I did not order from one contractor, I got the wines and spirits from Mr. Shiffleblatt, whose address I could find—I provided for 100 couples, but I cannot say how many came—I kept account on a piece of paper, which I destroyed after I had done with the job—when I went to Mr. Attelson for money I did not give him any notice of my coming—he happened to have the money at his place in a paper bag—that was on August 31st—I counted the money—there was none left in my bag, but I do not know about his—I went round and paid all the people to whom I owed money—I had bits of paper with their names upon them—I have no receipts—I paid about 12 people, but I had paid for the hall beforehand.

Re-examined. Mr. Attelson had no interest in the details of the payments—he had to pay me £200—I produce the written contract between him and myself—it was alsoproduced at the Bankruptcy Court at the private examination on December 20th—the contract is dated April 24th, 1899, and is upon Greenberg & Attelson's note paper(Produced)—Mr. Attelson's clerk wrote it—I think his name is Honeywell—I showed Mr. Friedman, the tailor, this letter before it was produced at the Bankruptcy Court—that was when I ordered a suit of clothes of him about the beginning of June—I had it in my possession before the wedding—when I was examined by the trustee I said that I got the horses and carriages from Mr. Abrahams, but his full name is Abraham Levy—the confectionery came mostly from people in the lane—I have done catering before this, but not for weddings—I have no bill or account for the largest amount, £38—I had an invoice at the time, but when the job was over I did not take any care of it—when Mr. Attelson paid me this £175 he said he did not want his wife to know all his business—she was at home, sitting by the window—I do not know whether she heard what was going on.

EDWARD HONEYWELL . I was clerk to Messrs. Greenberg &

Attelson—I remember Mr. Attelson being married on June 20th—I was with him as clerk until the petition was filed—I wrote out this letter before he married—I wrote out the letter on April 24th, but I do not remember seeing it signed—the statement of affairs was written out at the Bankruptcy Court from Mr. Attelson's verbal instructions—the other statement of affairs was made out by me previous to that.

Cross-examined. I wrote the statement of affairs at Mr. Attelson's dictation—I do not remember whether Mr. Weinig was there—I have never back-dated anything for the prisoners—the date on the contract would be the date it was written—if I had not seen the contract now I could not swear as to the date.

GUILTY on the fourth Count.— Four Months' Hard Labour each.

OLD COURT.—Wednesday, July 25th, 1900.

Before Mr. Justice Bigham.

(For cases tried this day see Kent and Surrey Cases).

NEW COURT.—Wednesday, July 25th, 1900.

Before Mr. Recorder.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-479
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour; Imprisonment > penal servitude

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NICHOLAS CRAWLEY . I am a labourer, of 4, Lonsley Street, Commercial Street—on July 5th, at 12.30 a.m., I was going home—I had had some drink, but I had my senses about me, and as I turned the corner of Thrawl Street a chap knocked me down, and others rifled my pockets—I had changed a shilling just before, and had the change—I felt hands going into my pockets—a detective got off a tram and took them.

Cross-examined by Kelly. I believe I recognise you, but I said before the Magistrate that I was too far gone in liquor to recognise anyone.

WILLIAM BROGDEN (Detective H). On July 5th, in the early morning, I was on a tram in Commercial Street, Spitalfields, and saw the two prisoners following Crawley—Kelly signalled to Frost—I got down and followed them into Thrawl Street—Kelly crossed to the other side and then came across the road, and met Crawley, and Frost seized him behind—Kelly took him by the throat—I went up; he tried to escape, and said he would put my b——y light out—a crowd came up—I did not hear Frost speak.

Kelly, in his defence on oath, said that when Brogden seized him he struggled, as he knew nothing about it.

Frost produced a written defence stating that Brogden knocked him down and put his knee in his stomach, but that he knew nothing about the robbery. GUILTY . They then PLEADED GUILTY to previous convictions at Clerkenwell, Frost on February 22nd, 1899, and Kelly on May 13th, 1898.

Two other convictions were proved against Frost and four against Kelly.

FROST— Six Months' Hard Labour. KELLY— Five Years' Penal Servitude.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-480
VerdictGuilty > pleaded part guilty
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-481
VerdictGuilty > unknown
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481. THOMAS ROCHFORD (62), Robbery with violence on William Wilson, and stealing a purse and £12 10s. from his person.

MR. COHEN Prosecuted.

WILLIAM WILSON . I am boatswain of a sailing ship—on June 5th, at 9.30 p.m., I was at the bottom of Leman Street—I had just come out of a urinal—I had two £5 notes and £2 10s. in gold—I was hustled by three or four men—one of them hit me—I caught hold of him and kept him, and the prisoner rushed up and took my money—I have known him for years, and had seen him that day—I informed the police, and picked him out that night, and charged him.

Cross-examined by the Prisoner. I met you at 7 o'clock that night, and asked you to drink—I did not come out of the urinal and say that I had lost my money; I saw you take it—it was not dark.

By the COURT. I had just come ashore, and had been paid off that day—I took the bag out while I was with the prisoner.

FRANK WENSLEY (Detective Sergeant H). On June 26th, at 2 a.m., I arrested the prisoner at a lodging-house in Shadwell—he said, "I don't know anything about it; I was not there"—he was placed with 10 others and identified by Wilson—when the charge was read over he pointed to a man named Conan, and said, "He wasnot there"—I found on him £1 10s. in gold—I know him—I saw him that day within 150 yards of where the robbery took place.

Cross-examined. I saw Conan following you—you went down Back Church Lane, and he down Cable Street.

By the COURT. Stoney was arrested, and the prosecutor identified him, but said he had some doubt, and the Magistrate discharged him.

CHARLEY SMITH (Police Sergeant, H). I arrested Conan—he was discharged—I know the prisoner, and was present when he was arrested.

Prisoner's defence: I had not seen the prosecutor for years, but was very intimate with him some years previously; he asked me to have a drink, and then he went into a urinal; I waited for him, and he came out and said, "I have lost my money"; It is very strange that I should rob a man whom I had known for years.

GUILTY of the robbery. —He then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction at Clerkenwell on September 21st, 1897. Nine other convictions were proved against him.—Four Years' Penal Servitude.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-482
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > penal servitude

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482. JAMES REGAN , Robbery with violence on William Avery, and stealing 6s. 7d., his money.

HENRY TAYLOR (109 K). I live at Amoy Place, Poplar—on June 23rd, about 6.45 p.m., I was sitting at my window and saw the prisoner arm-in-arm with a sailor, who was very drunk—I put on my hat and followed them—the prisoner tried to entice the sailor into a urinal, and he struck him on the chest and fell on him, and put his hand in his pocket—I rushed up to him and said, "What game is this?"—he said, "He is my friend; get up, Jack"—he made no answer to the charge—he had 8s. 6 1/2 d. in various pockets.

Cross-examined by the Prisoner. I was about 20 yards from you—you struck the man, and he fell, and you dropped down on your knees on him.

WILLIAM AVERY . I am a sail maker—on July 28th I had the change for a sovereign in my possession—I met the prisoner, and remember him knocking me down and trying to rob me—he gave me a punch on my chest and took all the money out of my pocket—a policeman came up—I was taken in charge for being drunk.

Cross-examined. We had not been drinking together for two hours—we did not walk arm-in-arm together—I had borrowed a sovereign from a sailor that day, but he was not in your company.

The Prisoner, in his defence, stated, on oath, that he was walking with the prosecutor, who said, "Can you lend me 2s.?" and that he had the money in hit hand to do so, when the policeman came up, and that it was not true that the prosecutor was down on the ground.

GUILTY .—He then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction at the Thames Police-court on December 21st, 1899, and several other convictions were proved against him.— Three Years' Penal Servitude.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-483
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence
SentenceImprisonment > penal servitude; Imprisonment > hard labour; Imprisonment > penal servitude

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483. ROBERT CORRICK (40), ALBERT RYAN (37), and GEORGE NICHOLLS (47) , Robbery with violence on John Munn, and stealing a watch and chain and £4, his property.

MR. MORTIMER Prosecuted, and MR. PURCELL appeared for CORRICK and


JOHN MUNN . I am a clerk—on July 7th I was at the corner of the Hampstead Road—Corrick and Ryan came up and spoke to me, and a third man, whom I have a doubt about—they said that they were lonely, and I treated them—I had had a little drink, but was not intoxicated—one man put his hands in my pockets and took my money; the other two ran away, and one ran against some scaffolding poles—two men came up, whom I subsequently found were detectives, and I told them—I lost my watch and chain and handkerchief, and £4 in gold.

Cross-examined by MR. PURCELL. I was not at work; it was Saturday—I had been at home all day, and left home at 8 o'clock and went to the Free Library, Holborn, till 10 o'clock, and then went to a public-house and had something to drink, as I had had nothing since I left home—it was then getting on for 11 o'clock—I then went to another house, where I had some stout and mild, and then waited for an omnibus—I was not intoxicated—I last looked at my watch shortly before 12 o'clock—I have lived in London all my life—these men invited me into a ham and beef shop, but I paid for the ham and beef—I went to three public-houses, but

three half-pints was all I had—I was not in drink—nobody else had spoken to me.

JOHN SEYMOUR (Detective Sergeant). I saw Munn about midnight at the junction of the Euston and Hampstead Roads—he was with the three prisoners—he seemed in drink—I kept observation; Ryan entered a ham and beef shop with him, and the other two stood on each side of a pillar, and afterwards entered the shop—they all four left—Corrick handed some food outside to Nicholls, and they all partook of it—they stopped and had an altercation—Munn seemed anxious to go north, but Ryan laid hold of his arm—they put their hands in front of him and took him round the east side of Tolmers Square, against a pole—Nicholls was in front of him—shortly after that they stooped down, and Nicholls rushed off—they then struck him, and he fell—I ran and stopped Ryan, and said, "I shall take you back to the man you have just knocked down"—I took them back to Munn, who said, "Are you police officers really?"—I said, "Yes"—he said, "Well, these men have treated me very badly; they have taken my watch and chain and money"—Ryan said, "Come on, Frank"—I took them to the station, got a lamp, and found some silver—on the Monday morning I saw Nicholls with a woman outside Marlborough Street Police Court—Munn identified him, and I said, "I am going to arrest you for stealing on Saturday night"—he said, "All right, you need not make a fuss"—I took him into the Court, and he was charged.

Cross-examined. Munn was very excited—I did not see him staggering—I saw no watch taken—Corrick had 1s. 8d. on him, and Ryan 1d.—no watch or chain was found—the silver found was a sixpence and 3 1/2 d.

RICHARD NURSEY (Detective Inspector). I was with Seymour, and saw Munn with the three prisoners—I identify them—I arrested Corrick—he said, "What does this mean; you have taken a liberty with me"—I knew Nicholls before.

Cross-examined. Munn had apparently been drinking—I watched him because I doubted their intention—I saw their hands in front of him—he was able to take care of himself if he had been left to himself.

Nicholls, in his defence, stated, on oath, that he went home with his wife at 11.30, and did not go out again till the Sunday morning; that his wife had been assaulted, and he went to the Police-court with her on the Monday, and was taken in custody, and would not have gone there if he was guilty; that he never saw Ryan in his life till he was placed in a cell with him; and that he was not placed with other men to be picked out.

Evidence for Nicholls' defence.

MRS. NICHOLLS. I went to the King's Arms on this Saturday night at 11.30 in time to get a pint of beer, and my husband gave me 8s.—he did not go out again that night—he got up at 4 o'clock to get some articles to sell—I went to get a summons on the Monday, but had not got sufficient money—Seymour took my husband, and said it was for highway robbery on Saturday night, and I said, "You were not out."

R. NURSEY (Re-examined). I first saw Munn and the three men just about closing time—Nicholls lives just about 60 yards from this square—I have known him three or four years by sight—I had him under observation three-quarters of an hour, and recognised him—I knew his name—I saw him at the Court on the Monday.

GUILTY of robbery only . They then PLEADED GUILTY to previous convictions at Clerkenwell; Corrick in February, 1899, Ryan on December 9th, 1899, and Nicholls on February 9th, 1891. Several other convictions were proved against each prisoner. CORRICK— Three Years' Penal Servitude. RYAN— Eighteen Months' Hard Labour. NICHOLLS— Three Years' Penal Servitude.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-484
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown; Guilty > lesser offence
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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484. THOMAS GLEN and WILLIAM REGAN . Robbery with violence with other persons unknown on William Carrick, and stealing £1 18s. 6d., his money.

WILLIAM CARRICK . I am foreman to Tapping & Co.—on July 13th, at 11.15 p.m. I went into the Dock House public-house, and met the prisoner Glen—I asked him to have a drink—he said, "I will walk up the road with you"—we walked to the Recreation Tavern, and had a drink—he introduced Regan there—I went outside 15 yards, and Glen caught hold of my arm, and said, "You have got a pocketful of money; give me 2s."—I said, "I have got no 2s."—he struck me a violent blow on my mouth, and they took my money—Regan hit me on my shoulder—I pointed out Glen to a policeman, and next day I picked Regan out at the Police-station from twelve others.

Cross-examined by Glen. I treated the two men in the Recreation Tavern whom you introduced, and Regan was one—I left you there with them, and you came after me, and asked me for my money.

Cross-examined by MR. GEOGHEGAN. I did not mention Regan the first time I was examined before the Magistrate, but I did to the police-man—Regan did not take my money.

JAMES RYMER (543 K). The prosecutor drew my attention to Glen—I walked up to him very sharp and told him the charge—he said, "I do not know anything about it; I had a drink with him"—I took him to the station—Carrick was sober—his mouth was bleeding, and his trousers pocket was torn—Glen was sober.

Cross-examined by MR. GEOGHEGAN. I know Regan as the foreman at Mr Cridge's—I have never seen the prisoners together.

GEORGE WREN (Detective, K). I arrested Regan on July 14th at Brunswick Street, Poplar—I told him it was for robbing a man named Carrick—he said, "I will go quietly; I do not often get into trouble like this"—he was put with 12 others, and said, "I have never been charged with anything like that before."

Cross-examined by MR. GEOGHEGAN. He has been convicted before of assault—when he gets drunk he gets into trouble—he said, "I do not often get into trouble like this," not "for a job like this."

Glen's statement before the Magistrate: "I had been drinking with him, and left him with my two friends and went away."

Glen, in his defence, stated on oath that Regan was a perfect stranger to him; that Carrick was mistaken, in saying that he introduced him; and that as he was going home the policeman stopped him, and Carrick accused him of robbing him.

Regan, in his defence, stated on oath that he had been a stevedore 30 years, and had never been charged with dishonesty or locked up, except twice for assaults, and had never seen Glen before; that he came out of the

Recreation Tavern and saw a row going on, but took no part in it; that Arthur Smith and John McCarthy spoke to him about the row before he was arrested; and after he was sent for trial McCarthy sent a statement to his solicitor.

Evidence for Regan.

ARTHUR SMITH . I am a ship's fireman, of 18, Brunswick Street—on this Friday night I was near the Recreation Tavern, and saw a disturbance outside—I saw Regan coming from the Recreation Tavern, while it was going on—he took no part in it—I walked with him to the corner of Eton Street, where he lives—he never left me from the time he left the tavern till he got to the corner—I only know Glen by sight.

Cross-examined. The spot where I saw Regan was about 12 yards from the public-house door—the crowd was not between the public-house and where I saw him.

Re-examined. I saw him actually leave the tavern at the time the disturbance was going on, and he took no part in it.

JOHN MCCARTHY . I am a stevedore, of 2, Cordelia Street—I have known Regan two years—I do not know Glen, and never saw them together—I went to the John Bull, Last Street, on this night with my cousin; we crossed the road and came to the Recreation Tavern—two men were fighting, and I stood looking at them—I saw Regan looking on; he took no part in it—another man spoke to a constable, who arrested him—I cannot say whether that was Glen—I wished Regan good-night; and last Saturday I heard that he was arrested for this affair; and he said, "Will you come and be a witness for me?"

Cross-examined. I do not know what Regan had been doing before I went up, or whether he remained after I left.

REGAN received an excellent character.NOT GUILTY . GLEN— GUILTY of simple robbery.— Eighteen Months' Hard Labour.

OLD COURT.—Thursday, July 26th, 1900.

Before Mr. Justice Bigham.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-485
VerdictsGuilty > unknown
SentencesImprisonment > penal servitude

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485. EDWARD WILLIAM PARKES , Unlawfully converting to his own use £100 entrusted to him as agent; also to unlawfully obtaining from Emilio Tavelli a cheque for £150, with intent to defraud.



The prisoner withdrew his plea, and PLEADED GUILTY, upon which the JURY found a verdict of GUILTY . He had been sentenced in 1888 at this Court to seven years' penal servitude for a similar offence .—Seven Years' Penal Servitude.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-486
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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486. EDWIN HANSEN (22) , Feloniously wounding Francis Egbert, with intent to murder him. Second Count: With intent to do him grievous bodily harm.

MR. CAMPBELL Prosecuted, and MR. FITCH Defended.

FRANCIS EGBERT (Sergeant, 8 H). At 1.40 a.m. on June 28th I was with Sandle in Leman Street, Whitechapel—Great Prescott Street runs

into Leman Street—I saw the prisoner, with a man and woman, having an altercation in a foreign language—I requested them to go away, which they did—the prisoner seemed very reluctant to go, and his friends took him away—they went down Leman Street—we waited a second or two, and then went in the same direction—they were in sight part of the time—Sandell went with me to the extremity of his beat, to the bottom of Leman Street, and I went up Cable Street—after I had gone about 30 yards I saw the prisoner and his friends standing still—the woman had her back to me—the prisoner was just behind—I endeavoured to pass them when the prisoner raised his right arm over the woman's left shoulder—I stepped back and was struck by some instrument on the left side of my face—I had not spoken to them—I was dazed from the effects of the blow and went down on my knees; then I shouted out to the other constable—I did not see the prisoner again till a week afterwards at the police-station—I was taken to the London Hospital where I remained till the Sunday—this occurred on Thursday morning—I am still on the sick list—my left eye is paralysed and the jaw is affected—I cannot chew.

Cross-examined. Sandell and I did not go over to the people—we did not hand a hat to the man who was with the prisoner—we did not strike the other man—the prisoner did not say, "What are you doing that for"—I did not say, "You go on, you German b——"—neither Sandell or I knocked the prisoner's hat off, or pushed him down—he had some marks on him at the station—a week afterwards one of his eyes was blacked—I do not know how he got it—he had not got it when I saw him in Leman Street.

Re-examined. I did not see him arrested.

FRANCIS SANDELL (261 H). On the early morning of June 28th I was on duty in Leman Street—I saw Egbert at the corner, and also the prisoner and another man with a woman having an altercation—Egbert and I crossed the road towards them and he asked them to go away—the prisoner seemed very reluctant to go, but they all went down Leman Street—nobody knocked his cap off or struck him—we went down Leman Street after they had gone—that was the proper way to work my beat—Egbert went on along Cable Street—the party of three were about 30 or 40 yards along Cable Street—just as Egbert was passing them the prisoner struck at him—he fell down and then shouted out, "Sandell, he has stabbed me"—the prisoner ran away—I blew my whistle and gave chose down Shorter Street—after the prisoner was taken into custody I went back and found this knife (Produced)—he was caught in Wellclose Square by Butler—the prisoner was very violent—he was struggling with Sergeant Studley, and I saw Studley strike him on the head with his truncheon—I did not see anybody else strike him—I did not strike him.

Cross-examined. Butler did not strike him in my presence—Studley only struck him once on the head—I saw the prisoner at the Police-court next morning—his face was bruised, and his eyes blacked—I don't know how he got that—neither Egbert nor I struck him—I did not see the

prisoner's hat on the ground in Cable Street—I heard him speak about his hat at the station.

WILLIAM STUDLEY (Police-sergeant 11 H). On the early morning of June 28th I was on duty at the bottom of Leman Street—I saw the prisoner there with another man and a woman—I saw Egbert leave the constable at the corner of Cable Street, and pass the three people—as he passed them the prisoner struck at him—his helmet fell off, and he fell to the ground—the prisoner ran away—I gave chase—as I passed Egbert I saw he was bleeding from a wound in the side of the face—the prisoner ran into a square, where we caught him—he was handed over to me by Butler, and we took him to the station; he was very violent, and I drew my truncheon and struck him, and knocked him down—he was perfectly sober—I did not see him struck by anybody before he struck Egbert—I did not see anybody else strike him after his arrest.

Cross-examined. I did not see Butler strike him—I do not think Egbert had a conversation as he passed the three people—I did not see any hat on the ground—the prisoner did not make any complaint of having been assaulted—I saw him sign a statement.

Re-examined. I did not see Sandle attempt to strike the prisoner—if he had I could have seen him.

HENRY BUTLER (19 H). I was in Wellclose Square on this night—I saw the prisoner run across the square—he mounted some iron railings, and got into some square gardens—I ran to the spot where he got over, and caught him—he made an attempt to strike me with his fist—I did not know whether he had a knife or not, and I hit him with my truncheon on the head three times—I did not see him till I saw him running away.

Cross-examined. He made no complaint of having been struck—I went to the station with him—he made a statement—I saw him sign it, and heard the inspector read it to him—he made no complaint after we had taken him into custody.

JAMES HURLEY (Inspector H). The prisoner made a statement at the station. (This being read, stated that the policeman struck him several times.)

Cross-examined. I cautioned the prisoner, but he insisted on making the statement.

JONES. I am Divisional Surgeon of Police—the prosecutor had an incised wound about 1 in. in front of his left ear, about 2 in. long and 1/2 in. deep—it was dangerous at the time.

The Prisoner, in his defence, on oath, said that the officer knocked him about a great deal, and he lost his temper, and struck him with a knife, which he took from his pocket.

Evidence for the defence.

WILLIE STRAHL . I am a jeweller, of 51, Leman Street, Whitechapel—on the morning of June 28th I was with the prisoner and Lilie Roder in Leman Street—we were standing talking in German—two policemen came up, and one of them kicked me, and my hat fell down—the prisoner asked him what he did it for, but he only struck him in the face—we went up Cable Street, and the police hit, him again and kicked him—the prisoner lost his cap, and asked the policeman where it was—the policeman

struck him again—he could not stand any more, and he struck the police-man.

Cross-examined. I did not know that the prisoner was arrested—I did not see him jump over any railings—I went away.

GUILTY of unlawfully wounding under great provocation.— One Month's Hard Labour.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-487
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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487. HENRY CARR , for the manslaughter of Henry Syrett.

MR. O'CONNOR Prosecuted.

AMELIA SYRETT . I live at 22, Carr Street, and am the widow of the deceased—he lived there with me—on Wednesday, June 6th, I was at my door when my husband came home about midnight—it was the anniversary of our wedding—we had been married 19 years—on the Sunday before, the prisoner had knocked at our door late at night—when my husband came home he said he should like to know why the deceased had knocked at our door, and he went to Carr's door and knocked twice—my husband came half of the way back when the prisoner came out and said, "Did you Want me, Bill?"—my husband said, "Yes, what did you come and knock at my door for on Sunday last?" and he tapped him on the arm—Carr said, "Don't you shove me, old boy"—he had not been shoved—Carr said, "Do you want to fight?"—my husband said, "Yes"—Carr said, "Come on, then," and he began to spar, and before my husband had a chance, he hit him once on the throat and once on the eye, and down he went—he stayed down about five minutes insensible; I thought he was dead—we got him into the house to bed—he would not go to the hospital, but he went on the following Monday—I think he died on June 18th—the prisoner called on me on the Sunday night before the death of my husband, while he was in bed, and said, "How is your husband?"—I thought he had come to apologise—I said, "Very bad"—he said, "Is not he dead yet?"—I said, "No"—he said, "Then fetch him out; I mean killing him, and getting my own back"—they had never had a quarrel—my husband was drunk; if he had been sober he would never have gone to Carr's.

HENRY THOMAS PRICE . I am a labourer, of 31, Carr Street—about 12.15 a.m. on June 6th I was standing at the corner of Marone Street, near where the prisoner lives—I saw the deceased knocking at the prisoner's door with the knocker—he knocked four times, I think—the prisoner came out, and the deceased said, "I have come to know what you have been knocking at my door for, in the middle of the night"—the prisoner did not say anything at first—then he said, "I came to ask you to chastise the girl whom you have there"—he said the girl had been saying wicked things against his wife—the deceased said, "What have you been striking at my door for?" and the prisoner struck him on the left eye and the jaw; there was no sparring at all—I did not hear Carr say, "Do you want to fights?" or the deceased say "Yes," or Carr say, "Come on, then"—the deceased tried to hit the prisoner after he had been hit the first time, but the prisoner knocked him flat on his back—I said to the prisoner, "You ought to he ashamed of yourself; you see how he is"—he was drunk—we helped deceased up.

GEORGE PRYOR . About 12.45 a.m. on June 6th I was standing at my door—I saw the deceased go to the prisoner's door, which is next to mine—the prisoner came out, and the deceased struck him in the chest—there was no challenge to fight, except on the deceased's part, who said he was waiting for him; I do not know what for.

WILLIAM NOTT (Police Inspector). I arrested the prisoner on June 18th, the day the deceased died; but before the deceased died, in consequence of a statement made by Mrs. Syrett, I told him I should arrest him for assaulting Henry Syrett on June 6th—he replied, "Yes, that is quite right; I have been expecting you for two or three days; he came to my door and knocked; I opened it, and he struck me, and I struck him, and he fell; I had a child dying at the time"—he made no reply in answer to the charge at the station.

EDWARD GOLDBY . I was Assistant Medical Superintendent at Bromley Asylum—on June 13th the deceased was brought to the hospital—he presented symptoms of injury to the brain; the only external sign was an abrasion to the back of the head, which might have been occasioned by a fall or a blow—he was admitted on June 12th, and died on the 18th—he should have been attended to before—I made a post-mortem examination, and found the skull was fractured for about 4 in. at a part corresponding to the external part; that caused bleeding to the brain, which caused death—I attribute the death to the fracture of the skull—it might have been caused by his falling on the pavement—it is doubtful if he had been attended to earlier whether it would have made any difference to his condition—he was not conscious the whole time he was with us—it is probable that he had been conscious, because the day before his death he became suddenly worse—he was a very healthy man.

The Prisoner, in his defence, on oath, said that he went to his door to see what the deceased wanted, who said he wanted to fight; that the deceased hit him in the chest, and he shoved him; that he did not mean to injure him; that lie hit him again, and he (the prisoner) shoved him again, and he went down on the kerb.


NEW COURT.—Thursday, July 26th, 1900.

(For the case of JOSEPH HOLLAND, tried this day, see Essex Cases.)

THIRD COURT.—Thursday, July 26th, 1900.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-488
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour; Imprisonment > hard labour

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488. ADOLPH ZICKEL (47) and ADOLPH MOLINSKI (34) , Breaking and entering the warehouse of Lewis Abrahams and Morris Friedberg, and stealing 10 double and 30 single sable necklets and other property. Other Counts: Receiving the same.

MESSRS. AVORY and HUTTON Prosecuted; MR. MUIR appeared for Zickel, and MR. ROOTH for molinski.

ARTHUR LEWIS LEVY . I am manager to Messrs. Abrahams & Friedberg, wholesale manufacturing furriers, 4, Golden Lane—on the ground floor is the counting-house and cashier's office, the first floor the stock-room,

where the best furs are kept; the second floor is the skin-room, and in the third and fourth floors the manufacturing of the skins is done—there are keys to the outer and to the stock-room door—I keep one bunch of keys, the other is kept by Mr. Friedberg, the junior partner—on Saturday, June 2nd, the Saturday before Bank Holiday, Mr. Abrahams and I and one or two others left together about 2.30 p.m.—I locked up the inner and outer doors, and was the last to leave—I came again between 9 and 10 a.m. on June 5th—I found the outer door secure, and unlocked it—on the ground floor the office was broken open, the desk wrenched open, and the door of the first floor open—I sent for a constable, and went with him into the basement—I missed some skins from the skin-room—stock has since been taken—we found that skins worth £2,600 had been taken between Saturday and Tuesday, June 2nd and 5th, and the most valuable of the furs were picked out, which would require a person of experience in the fur trade to judge of—Isaac, the brother of Lewis Abrahams, stores furs of his own in the basement—he arrived on the Saturday between 10 and 10.30, and stopped till 12, when he went out with Thresher, the cashier, to lunch—I saw him come back—he stopped till I closed the premises, about 3.30.

Cross-examined by MR. ROOTH. I was not at the Police-court—I was first spoken to about this case after the first or second hearing at Guildhall—more than 500 articles were taken—all the inside doors were forced.

LEWIS ABRAHAMS . I am the partner of Mr. Friedberg as wholesale manufacturing furriers—we have a warehouse at 4, Golden Lane—on leaving on June 2nd the place was properly locked up—on returning the following Tuesday I found doors had been forced and stock taken from the stock-room, value about £2,600—the best furs had been selected, which would require experience—I had a communication sent to the police—in consequence of what they said I gave instructions to my brother Isaac—I went to Molinski's house on the Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday—I heard something on June 20th or 22nd, and went with Sergeant Bacon to Blackburn on Friday, June 22nd, and saw Mr. Worswick, a draper, there with Bacon and the Superintendent of Police at Blackburn—the interview was not satisfactory, and I saw him the following Monday, June 25th—I called a second time on the Saturday afternoon, and picked out one sable necklet and five solitaires as my property—I was with Bacon and the Superintendent—during the conversation Bacon went out and got a search warrant—then Worswick produced other furs—I identified the 30 single and 10 double furs produced—their cost price is about £144—I should want £170 for them from a shopkeeper, wholesale—my brother Isaac stores a bag or two of pieces at my warehouse—he was there on June 2nd—I saw him from about 10.30 till he went out to lunch, and afterwards till 1.50, when the warehouse was closed.

Cross-examined by MR. MUIR. This is a list of the articles stolen (Produced).

Cross-examined by MR. ROOTH. Isaac keeps pieces in the front part of the basement—he used to have a key when he was in my employment—the

only way to it is through the warehouse—the stuff was stolen from the four different floors—there was no mark of violence on the outside door.

SAMUEL BACON (City Detective). Sergeant Dowse and I had charge of this case—I went with Mr. Abrahams to Blackburn—in consequence of what Mr. Worswick stated I sent a telegram to London to have the prisoners arrested—I made a suggestion, in consequence of which I had a conversation with Isaac Abrahams, who went to Molinski's place of business on the Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, by my advice.

JOHN THOMAS WORSWICK . I am a draper, of 12, 14, and 16, King William Street, Blackburn—I have known the prisoner Zickel about five years—I last saw him with Molinski—they came into my shop together on June 6th—Zickel said, "I met a man in Manchester, and he said, 'We have some nice stuff'"—I said, "What are they?"—he said, "Sables"—I said, "I am not buying" but he asked me to go through them—he showed me some sable necklets in a brown paper parcel tied with string—when the parcel was undone I went through them—I pointed out that they were not so saleable with us, especially with the sable tails, and we should sell them better with the natural boa tails—he asked 65s. for the double, and 45s. 6d. for the single necklets—ultimately I offered 30s. for the double, and 25s. for the single necklets—after a conversation with the other prisoner he accepted—I wrote a cheque at his request to "Solmon," which he spelt for me—Solmon is Molinski—at his request, I endorsed the cheque, as he said he could not write—Molinski took the cheque, and they went out together—I said, "Our bank is just round the corner; I will send my errand boy with you where the bank is; I suppose you have come for cash, and want cash"—they came back, and Zickel said, "Mr. Worswick, I want 5 percent, commission"—I said, "What are you talking about?"—he asked for £2 12s. 6d.—in the end I gave him 26s. 3d.—I got no bill and no receipt—afterwards a search warrant was obtained by Bacon, and these necklets were identified by Abrahams and another man, and taken away by the police.

Cross-examined by MR. MUIR. I have done business with Zickel for five years as a fur merchant—I did not understand that Solmon was the man from Manchester—I paid Zickel 2 1/2 percent. on £52 10s.—I understood that they were Zickel's goods, and not that he was an agent—I never had an invoice nor a receipt from Zickel, except the cheque.

Cross-examined by MR. ROOTH. The cheque was paid in gold—it is so marked—I had paid Zickel five previous cheques—some were crossed—this one is endorsed "London Trading Bk., Ld."

ISAAC ABRAHAMS . I am a fur dealer, of 240, Richmond Road, Dalston—Lewis Abrahams is my brother—I keep my furs in the basement of his warehouse at 4, Golden Lane—on the Tuesday after Bank Holiday, in consequence of what my brother said, I went to Molinski's place of business between 1 and 2 p.m.—the place was locked—I went next day, Wednesday, June 6th—the place was locked—I went again on Thursday, the 7th, and asked him where he had been—he said he had been away for his holiday somewhere near Littlehampton—I asked him if he had heard of the robbery—he said, "My brother Bert has just been here, and told me about it"—Bert was employed by the prosecutors' firm before

the robbery—I went back to my brother—I saw Sergeant Bacon—I told them about the conversation—Molinski was employed by my brother some years ago.

Cross-examined by MR. ROOTH. I have known Molinski about five years—I have done business with him up to February or March last—I used to call on him nearly every year—I took goods from him—I did not take him a parcel of 40 necklets on June 2nd to sell at Manchester and Blackburn for me—Miss Hughes is employed by Molinski—I know his landlady—I did not give Molinski 50s. to pay expenses—he did not hand me £52 10s. on the Thursday—I did not give him £5 commission for selling the things—I heard Friedberg ask Bert Molinski if he knew anything of the robbery.

Re-examined. I was at the warehouse on the Saturday with my brother and Friedberg from about 10.30 till 2.30, when my brother left—I went out with Thresher, the cashier, to lunch—Molinski's place of business ness is in Bridgewater Square, two or three minutes' walk from Golden Lane—he works on furs for others, and is known in the trade as a chamber master.

LEWIS ABRAHAMS (Re-examined). Molinski was employed by my firm about four years ago for two or three months as a chamber master—I would not identify the furs till I called in the man who made them up.

MORRIS FRIEDBERG . I am in partnership with Lewis Abrahams—I was a party to the instructions given to Isaac to find Molinski—I identified the furs as mine.

Cross-examined by MR. ROOTH. Bert Molinski was employed by us—I did not speak to him in the office about the robbery—I told him to meet me at Old Street Station—that was before Molinski was in custody—I questioned Bert about the robbery, as I did all my work-people—I did not say, "All I want you to do is to open your mouth, and if you do you will have £50, and your brother £50; I know you are not a rich fellow"—we went into a public-house in Old Street—I always treat my people—I asked him if he knew anything about the key, because he often handled my keys—I was with Dowse when Molinski was arrested—I know Jacob, the dresser, of 64, Nelson Street, Talbot Street, Commercial Street—he came to see me in reply to my telegram of June 5th—I took him into the basement and asked him, "What is Molinski doing?"—he said, "Molinski is a wrong 'un; he has done nothing for the past few years"—I did not offer him £100 to tell me if he knew anything about the robbery—money was not mentioned—I did not say I would give Molinski £500—Jacob said if I dare go to Molinaki's place he would stick a knife in me—I sent him another telegram on June 27th—he called upon me for work occasionally—he did not say in the presence of a boy called Thomas and my man Levy, "What do you mean by sending a telegram to make me say this man knows something about the robbery, when I know nothing about the robbery?"

Re-examined. I did my best to find out who it was, and questioned my work-people—I offered no bribe to say that Molinski robbed me.

HARRY GEORGE THRESHER . I am cashier to the prosecutors—I saw Isaac Abrahams on the premises at 11 a.m.—shortly after I went to the bank—he was there when I came back—I went to lunch with him at

only way to it is through the warehouse—the stuff was stolen from the four different floors—there was no mark of violence on the outside door.

SAMUEL BACON (City Detective). Sergeant Dowse and I had charge of this case—I went with Mr. Abrahams to Blackburn—in consequence of what Mr. Worswick stated I sent a telegram to London to have the prisoners arrested—I made a suggestion, in consequence of which I had a conversation with Isaac Abrahams, who went to Molinski's place of business on the Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, by my advice.

JOHN THOMAS WORSWICK . I am a draper, of 12, 14, and 16, King William Street, Blackburn—I have known the prisoner Zickel about five years—I last saw him with Molinski—they came into my shop together on June 6th—Zickel said, "I met a man in Manchester, and he said, 'We have some nice stuff'"—I said, "What are they?"—he said, "Sables"—I said, "I am not buying" but he asked me to go through them—he showed me some sable necklets in a brown paper parcel tied with string—when the parcel was undone I went through them—I pointed out that they were not so saleable with us, especially with the sable tails, and we should sell them better with the natural boa tails—he asked 65s. for the double, and 45s. 6d. for the single necklets—ultimately I offered 30s. for the double, and 25s. for the single necklets—after a conversation with the other prisoner he accepted—I wrote a cheque at his request to "Solmon," which he spelt for me—Solmon is Molinski—at his request, I endorsed the cheque, as he said he could not write—Molinski took the cheque, and they went out together—I said, "Our bank is just round the corner; I will send my errand boy with you where the bank is; I suppose you have come for cash, and want cash"—they came back, and Zickel said, "Mr. Worswick, I want 5 percent, commission"—I said, "What are you talking about?"—he asked for £2 12s. 6d.—in the end I gave him 26s. 3d.—I got no bill and no receipt—afterwards a search warrant was obtained by Bacon, and these necklets were identified by Abrahams and another man, and taken away by the police.

Cross-examined by MR. MUIR. I have done business with Zickel for five years as a fur merchant—I did not understand that Solmon was the man from Manchester—I paid Zickel 2 1/2 per cent. on £52 10s.—I understood that they were Zickel's goods, and not that he was an agent—I never had an invoice nor a receipt from Zickel, except the cheque.

Cross-examined by MR. ROOTH. The cheque was paid in gold—it is so marked—I had paid Zickel five previous cheques—some were crossed—this one is endorsed "London Trading Bk., Ld."

ISAAC ABRAHAMS . I am a fur dealer, of 240, Richmond Road, Dalston—Lewis Abrahams is my brother—I keep my furs in the basement of his warehouse at 4, Golden Lane—on the Tuesday after Bank Holiday, in consequence of what my brother said, I went to Molinski's place of business between 1 and 2 p.m.—the place was locked—I went next day, Wednesday, June 6th—the place was locked—I went again on Thursday, the 7th, and asked him where he had been—he said he had been away for his holiday somewhere near. Littlehampton—I asked him if he had heard of the robbery—he said, "My brother Bert has just been here, and told me about it"—Bert was employed by the prosecutors' firm before

the robbery—I went back to my brother—I saw Sergeant Bacon—I told them about the conversation—Molinski was employed by my brother some years ago.

Cross-examined by MR. ROOTH. I have known Molinski about five years—I have done business with him up to February or March last—I used to call on him nearly every year—I took goods from him—I did not take him a parcel of 40 necklets on June 2nd to sell at Manchester and Blackburn for me—Miss Hughes is employed by Molinski—I know his landlady—I did not give Molinski 50s. to pay expenses—he did not hand me £52 10s. on the Thursday—I did not give him £5 commission for selling the things—I heard Friedberg ask Bert Molinski if he knew anything of the robbery.

Re-examined. I was at the warehouse on the Saturday with my brother and Friedberg from about 10.30 till 2.30, when my brother left—I went out with Thresher, the cashier, to lunch—Molinski's place of business ness is in Bridgewater Square, two or three minutes' walk from Golden Lane—he works on furs for others, and is known in the trade as a chamber master.

LEWIS ABRAHAMS (Re-examined). Molinski was employed by my firm about four years ago for two or three months as a chamber master—I would not identify the furs till I called in the man who made them up.

MORRIS FRIEDBERG . I am in partnership with Lewis Abrahams—I was a party to the instructions given to Isaac to find Molinski—I identified the furs as mine.

Cross-examined by MR. ROOTH. Bert Molinski was employed by us—I did not speak to him in the office about the robbery—I told him to meet me at Old Street Station—that was before Molinski was in custody—I questioned Bert about the robbery, as I did all my work-people—I did not say, "All I want you to do is to open your mouth, and if you do you will have £50, and your brother £50; I know you are not a rich fellow"—we went into a public-house in Old Street—I always treat my people—I asked him if he knew anything about the key, because he often handled my keys—I was with Dowse when Molinski was arrested—I know Jacob, the dresser, of 64, Nelson Street, Talbot Street, Commercial Street—he came to see me in reply to my telegram of June 5th—I took him into the basement and asked him, "What is Molinski doing?"—he said, "Molinski is a wrong 'un; he has done nothing for the past few years"—I did not offer him £100 to tell me if he knew anything about the robbery—money was not mentioned—I did not say I would give Molinski £500—Jacob said if I dare go to Molinski's place he would stick a knife in me—I sent him another telegram on June 27th—he called upon me for work occasionally—he did not say in the presence of a boy called Thomas and my man Levy, "What do you mean by sending a telegram to make me say this man knows something about the robbery, when I know nothing about the robbery?"

Re-examined. I did my best to find out who it was, and questioned my work-people—I offered no bribe to say that Molinski robbed me.

HARRY GEORGE THRESHER . I am cashier to the prosecutors—I saw Isaac Abrahams on the premises at 11 a.m.—shortly after I went to the bank—he was there when I came back—I went to lunch with him at

12.15—we returned to the premises, and he was there till the premises were closed, about 2.30, when we left.

Cross-examined by MR. ROOTH. Isaac was only standing about the place, passing his time—I was first spoken to about the robbery about a month afterwards.

GEORGE DAVIES . I am parcel clerk at the Left Luggage Office of the North Western Railway, Manchester—I live at Stockport—on June 5th I joined the train at 5.40, and arrived at Manchester at 5.50—it was timed to leave London at midnight—I know Zickel as Zickel from his coming frequently to the Left Luggage Office at the London Road for three or four years—I saw him in a third class compartment with Molinski—Zickel sat with his face to the engine, and Molinski opposite—I got into the next compartment—I saw Zickel come out of the compartment as I passed it at the London Road station of the North Western Railway at Manchester, to go to the Left Luggage Office to resume my duties—both came to the office immediately—Zickel said that he wanted to leave a bundle—he said to Molinski, "Book this in your name," and it was booked in the name of Slowman—he also left his coat in the name of Zickel—the bundle was taken out about two hours later, about 7.30 or 8 a.m.—the coat was taken out the following day by the day porter—I identified Molinski before the hearing at Guildhall.

THOMAS SHEFFIELD . I am manager of the Wheatsheaf Hotel, High Street, Manchester—on Tuesday, June 5th, at about 7.30 a.m., the prisoners engaged a stock-room to show their goods for sale—they went away and returned with a canvas bag—they asked if I could get a hand-cart and man—I said not at that time in the morning, but they could get a cab, and they hired a cab—I assisted to take the canvas bag upstairs in the stock-room—it remained till 4 or 5 p.m.

GEORGE BRETT . I was head boots at the White Bear, Manchester, on June 5th—the prisoners came about 9.30 a.m.—I knew Zickel—he said "Good morning," and I asked him if he wanted a stock-room—he said "No," and that his friend had one at the Wheatsheaf which he could use—when they booked two bedrooms Zickel gave his friend's name as Slowman—Zickel has had a stock-room occasionally—he left a parcel with me on Tuesday morning to take care of till he returned—it was 2 1/2 ft. long, soft, and tied in brown paper with string—I knew he dealt in furs—when I came at 9.30 on Wednesday morning they had gone.

Cross-examined by MR. MUIR. I made no note—I am trusting to memory—our stock-rooms have been turned into drinking-rooms.

THOMAS ROBINSON BURGESS . I am a mantle manufacturer at Union Street, Church Street, Manchester—on Tuesday, June 5th, I met Zickel in Manchester—I had known him some time—he asked me to come and see a lot of stuff that another man had, belonging to a man about to fail, and I could have a bargain, but if I bought I must give him 5 percent, on the price paid—I made an appointment, and about 10 a.m. I went to the Wheatsheaf Hotel—I was shown some furs in a stock-room by the prisoners, some sable and martin necklets and muffs—they offered one lot of sable muffs at 40s., and another at 25s.—they appeared to be of good quality, and numbered between 80 and 100—I did not buy because Zickel said they were not his goods—I thought they were considerably

below present prices—I am a manufacturer of mantles, but I buy furs, and retail them.

Cross-examined by MR. MUIR. I have dealt with Zickel five or six years—he has borne a good character—he has always sold to me as principal, and has given me an invoice and a receipt.

FREDERICK WATSON . I Live at 24, Bachold Mount, Manchester—I know Zickel—I saw him on June 5th at the White Bear Hotel—I took for him a large canvas bag and parcel from the Wheatsheaf Hotel to Victoria Station for Blackburn—I left them in No. 5 platform cloakroom, and took a ticket in the name of Slowman—Zickel told me another man was with him—Zickel or the other man gave me 1s.

Cross-examined by MR. MUIR. I had been employed by Zickel before—I have known him about five years as Zickel—this was about 5 o'clock.

CHARLES BUTLER . I am a clerk in the arrival cloak-room at Euston—on June 6th, between 8.30 p.m. and 11 p.m., I took in a canvas bundle deposited there in the name of Zickel—one end exposed fur tails—it was taken away the next day.

THOMAS DOWSE (City Detective). On June 26th, with two officers and Friedberg I went to No. 9, Philpot Street, Commercial Road—I said to Zickel, "We are police officers, and are making some inquiries respecting a quantity of furs stolen from No. 4, Golden Lane, between June 2nd and 5th"—he said, "All right, come in; you won't find them here"—we searched the rooms and found nothing relating to the charge—I said that from inquiries I had made and information received he and another man named Slowman had been disposing of goods in Manchester and Blackburn he said, "That you will have to prove"—he was taken to Moor Lane Police-station and detained—the same afternoon I went, to 5, Bridgewater Street, Bridgewater Square, Barbican, where Molinski occupies a front room on the first floor at 5s. or 6s. a week—I said, "Is your name Molinski?"—he said, "Yes"—I said, "A gentleman wishes to speak to you downstairs"—he came down, and Mr. Friedberg said, "I will give this man into custody"—I accompanied him upstairs to the first floor again and told him that inquiries had been made, and I had reason to believe the goods had been stolen from 4, Golden Lane, between June 2nd and 5th—he appeared upset, and had a knife with an open blade—I called assistance—he appeared to be coming for me—I said, "Put your coat on"—he said, "Not me"—he was taken to the station.

Cross-examined by MR. MUIR. I said before the Magistrate that Zickel said, "No; you can search my place"—I took no note.

Cross-examined by MR. ROOTH. Molinski was working at the board with the knife—he looked seriously at me—I have seen Bert Molinski during my inquiries—we did not have a conversation about his having the keys—Miss Hughes called on me a few days after the arrest—she said she had been away on a holiday—she made a statement to me in the presence of other officers about June 30th—it was taken down and signed.

Zickel, in his defence, on oath, said that he met Molinski, whom he knew, at Manchester on his journey to sell muffs, etc., and at his request sold his stuff, not knowing that it was stolen. He received a good character.

Molinski, in his defence, on oath, said that Isaac Abrahams asked him to dispose of the goods for him, which he did for £52 10s.; this he handed to Isaac in gold, and received £5 commission and 50s. expenses; and as he was only a chamber master, to prevent his being discharged, he gave the name of Slowman on depositing the goods.

MINNIE HUGHES . I live at 32, Old Road, Rotherhithe—I am a fur machinist, employed by Molinski—I have known Isaac Abrahams for some time—on Saturday, June 2nd, he came to Molinski's place between 12 and 1 with goods in a brown paper parcel, which he asked Molinski to sell for him in Manchester—the parcel was opened, and I saw 30 single sable necklets and 10 double collarettes—Molinski said, "I cannot go; I have no money"—Isaac said, "I will give you 50 bob"—I saw 50s. pass—I next saw Molinski the following Thursday, when I overheard Isaac ask him how he had enjoyed his holiday—he said, "Pretty fair," and then passed Isaac a lot of gold—Isaac said, "Hero is £5 for your trouble"—they spoke a few words in their own language, and Isaac went away—I went for a holiday on Tuesday, June 26th, and returned on Friday, June 29th—I have not been to business since, because Molinski was taken away—Mrs. Molinski told me the charge—I went to Holloway, and then to the Police-station, and made a statement, which I signed, and handed to the officer in charge.

Cross-examined. I have been in Molinski's employment over four years—he told me not to come back to work till the Thursday—on the Thursday Isaac came and asked Molinski if he had heard of the robbery—Molinski said, "Yes; my brother has just been up and told me"—I did not count the necklets, but I heard the number mentioned, and some of the conversation, and saw the goods.

ELIZABETH BUDGING . I am a widow, of 5, Bridgewater Street, Barbican—I let my front room, first floor, to Molinski—he has been there about three years, and a-half—on Saturday, June 2nd, Isaac Abrahams came between 12 and 1 o'clock—he had a paper parcel in my passage as I was coming up the kitchen stairs.

Cross-examined. I remember June 2nd because I had a lady friend, and I can easily remember Bank Holiday—I have seen Isaac before, but not often.

Evidence in Reply.

THOMAS ROBINSON BURGESS (Re-examined). I have no doubt I saw sable muffs in the stock-room, and necklets, but no Persian lamb muffs.

ARTHUR LEWIS LEVY . We have recovered some of the goods—between 80 and 90 sable muffs were missing—some muffs have been recovered on another charge from Fishman—the goods were safe when we left the premises on Saturday, June 2nd—I covered them up about 2.20 p.m.

GUILTY of receiving. ZICKEL— Nine Months' Hard Labour. Two convictions of burglary and assault were proved against MOLINSKI— Eighteen Months' Hard Labour.

OLD COURT.—Friday, July 27th, 1900.

Before Mr. Justice Bigham.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-489
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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489. WILLIAM JAMES IRWIN (61) was indicted for and charged on the Coroner's Inquisition with the wilful murder of Catherine Irwin.



EDGAR WILLIAM IRWIN . I live at 13, All Saints Road, Westbourne Park, and am the prisoner's son by his first wife, who died in 1887—there were six other children besides myself—my father married the deceased on September 11th, 1888; she was then 35—I think my father is 59 now—there were four children by the second marriage—last June my father told me that the deceased had left him and the baby, who was seven weeks old—he was living at 50, Blenheim Street, Chelsea, with the children of the second marriage—he said he did not know where his wife was—I was assisting my father with money in June; I paid part of the rent—about August, last year, my father went into Chelsea, Infirmary, and from what I have been told he remained there till December—when he came out I heard that he went to work for Mr. Scott, a cooper, in Rotherhithe Street—I have seen him about six or seven times since December, and I have assisted him with money—the last time I saw him was on June 21st, 1900; he asked for a few coppers—I did not give him any—he did not say if he was at work then.

Cross-examined. When I saw him on June 20th he told me that the three other children were on his hands—I was living with him when he married the deceased, and lived with him about two years—they appeared to live happily—I did not know a man named Sexton—in June, 1899, any father told me his wife had run away.

ADA POWELL . I live at 26, Beyal Road, Fulham, with my mother—about April 19th the deceased came to lodge there in the name of Irwin—she stayed there a month—the prisoner called twice—I knew him as Mr. Irwin—he saw his wife—Mr. Sexton came to see her.

Cross-examined. Before the deceased came, Sexton came and engaged the room for her, and paid a week's rent in advance—he said he was an old friend of her husband—when he visited her, mother used to let him go into the sitting-room—when her husband came he would not come in.

Re-examined. Sexton never stayed all night.

JOHN SEXTON . I am gate-keeper at the Royal Hospital at Chelsea—I made the acquaintance of the prisoner and his wife in 1897—they were living at 50, Blenheim Street, Chelsea, and from that time till the deceased left her husband, I visited the house—I was on good terms with them both—two months after she left her husband I heard of it—I had no communication with her till two months after she left—then she wrote me a letter—the prisoner came and asked me time after time where his wife was—I found out that she was working at Whiteley's, where she lived—from there she went to some lodgings at Claybrooke Road, Hammersmith—I visited her there three or four times—I knew she bad a child in April, 1900, at Queen Charlotte's Hospital, after which she went to live at 26, Beyal Road, Fulham—I got the room for her—I visited her there—while she was there I saw the prisoner in Hammersmith, but I did not speak to him—he did not see me—I wrote this letter to the deceased while she was at the Lying-in Hospital—(This stated that was sorry that she had been taken so short, but hoped it would be tlie last time;

that he hoped that she would be satisfied now that she had got a girl; that she had better go back to live with her husband till she was perfectly free, for as long as he lived they (the deceased and Sexton) could not be happy together; that he had no intention of giving her up, and he would always be her; that if she were free he would have made a home for her, and that he wanted to see her before she went to live with her husband again)—I had not had connection with her, I respected her too much—after she went to Beyal Road, she got a situation at Peter Robinson's, and went to live at Great Titchfield Street at a house which is kept for the employees at Peter Robinson's—on June 20th, at 8.30 p.m., I met the prisoner and his wife outside the Middlesex Hospital, spoke to them and shook hands with them—the deceased said to me, "I must leave you now, Jack, to do some shopping"—she left, her husband—I saw her go into the house in Great. Titchfield Street—I waited for her for 20 minutes—she came out, and I was in her company till 11.30 p.m.—her husband left us, and we went to do some shopping, and then we went for a walk till 11.30—at that time we went back to the home—we saw the prisoner standing at the top of Great Titchfield Street—he said to her, "Millie, I want to speak to you for a minute"—they walked away for a few yards—I did not hear what they said—they parted, and I saw them shake hands—they were together two or three minutes—she left her husband—he went away, and I saw her into her house—I did not see any more of the prisoner—I went down the road to overtake him, but could not see him—on the following day I got a telegram from the hospital—the prisoner had never made any objection to my acqualintance with his wife.

Cross-examined. My hours at Chelsea Hospital were from 6 a.m. till 2 p.m.—I knew the prisoner did not come home till 8.30 p.m.—I visited her once or twice—in 1898 I helped them with their rent—I knew they were living apart from April or May, 1899—I only took the room in Beyal Road for the deceased—I think I took it in the name of Mrs. Bailey—I did not know where the prisoner was working; I did not try to find out—I was friendly with him, and am now—I do not know if any other person was visiting the deceased between April, 1899, and April, 1900—there were no immoral relations between us—I do not know whose the baby was—her husband used to visit her—I swear it was not mine—if the deceased had been free from the prisoner I should have married her—she told me she wanted a girl baby—I do not know where her relations are—when she died I took possession of her trinkets—I handed them over to the Coroner's Court—I said that I was a friend.

Re-examined. The deceased wished me to take possession of her trinkets—it was a mistake that she was described as my sister.

EMILY AUGUSTA WRIGHT . I live at 18, Great Titchfield Street, and am an assistant at Peter Robinson's—the deceased was an assistant there, where she was known as Mrs. Bailey—she slept in the same quarters in Great Titchfield Street—she had been there for about six weeks—she left the house every morning about 8 a.m.—I used to sleep in the same room as the prisoner, and we walked to our work together occasionally—on Friday morning, June 22nd, we started together about 8.10—we went in

the direction of Margaret Street—she spoke to me, and the prisoner came up—I had never seen him before—he took hold of her arm, and asked if he could speak to her for a minute—she said she could not stop—I do not think she wanted to speak to him—he said, "I must speak to you for a minute"—she said, "I cannot stay this morning"—she was walking along while this was being said, and the prisoner was moving by her side—I moved aside, and she ran forward two or three yards the prisoner ranafter her, overtook her, and caught hold of her—I cannot say what part he caught hold of—he seemed to be striking her—she turned round the nextsecond, stabbed—he had a knife in his hand—shegave a little scream and I saw blood coming from her right shoulder—the prisoner was holding his right hand up before she was stabbed—she sank down—somebody seized the prisoner, and a constable came up.

Cross-examined. Before the prisoner spoke to the deceased she said to me, "Here is some person whom I do not wish to speak to."

GEORGE ROACH . On June 22nd, about 8 a.m., I was walking along Titchfield Street, and saw the last witness and the deceased pass me, after which I saw the prisoner walking a little way behind them—the two ladies overtook and passed me on my left, and the prisoner on my right—he went up to deceased and said, "Liz" (I think that was the name), "I want to speak to you"—she took no notice; then he took hold of her arm as though to pull her towards him, but she threw him off; he then put his hand into his right hand pocket, pulled it out, and appeared to punch her in the chest—I thought it cowardly, and I hurried up to take her part, and as the prisoner raised his hand again, as though to strike her, I saw a knife in his hand—I seized him by the throat, the knife fell out of his hand, and somebody picked it up and handed it to me; I afterwards gave it to a policeman who came up—as I seized the prisoner I said to him, "You scoundrel to stab a woman like that!"—he said, "Oh, you don't know"—I held him till a constable came and took him.

TOM JOYS (354 D). About 8 a.m. on June 22nd I heard a whistle in the direction of Great Titchfield Street—I went there and found the prisoner being held by Roach, who gave him into custody—he also handed this knife(Produced) to me, and said in the prisoner's hearing, "Here is the knife; I saw him do it"—the prisoner said nothing—Constable Haylett came up, and took the woman to the hospital—I took the prisoner to the station, where he was charged with attempting murder—the charge was read over to him—he made no reply.

HENRY BROWN (Police Inspector). I was at the station when Joys brought the prisoner in—I said to him, "You will be detained here until I go to the hospital to ascertain, if possible, the nature of the injuries of your wife"—I went to the hospital, and at 10.25 a.m. returned to the prisoner, and said to him, "Your wife is in a most dangerous condition"—he replied, "Yes; I expect so; I have nothing more to say at present"—I formally charged him with attempting to murder his wife—he made no reply—the same morning he was brought before a Magistrate, and remanded till June 29th—the same day, in consequence of a communication from the hospital, the Magistrate attended there, and took the deceased's deposition—the prisoner was present, and had an opportunity of cross-examining—when he was charged he was asked for his address—

he said he had no home, and had not been in a bed for about 10 nights—there was only 1d. on him—I found a letter in a box at Great Titchfield Street, which was pointed out to me as the deceased's.

Cross-examined. I also found a leather case containing needles and thread.

HERBERT'GIBBONS GARNSEY . I am assistant at Peter Robinson's—on the morning of June 22nd I was in Great Titchfield Street, shortly after 8 a.m.—I saw what happened to the deceased.

Cross-examined. The prisoner had a stick under his left arm before he struck the blow—I think he put his hand into his front and drew out the knife and struck the woman.

Re-examined. He struck the blow with his right hand.

FRANCIS BLUNDY . I am house surgeon at Middlesex Hospital—I was there at 8.20 a.m. on June 22nd, when the deceased was brought in—I examined her and found her suffering from a clean-cut wound immediately beneath the right collar bone, 2 1/2 in. deep and 1 1/4 in. across—there was no bleeding then; there had been a great deal, and after her admission it began again—an operation was performed to stop the bleeding, but she died at 8.10 the same evening—I made a post-mortem examination—this knife might cause the wound—it punctured the right lung—I was present when the deceased's deposition was taken—she was in a fit state to understand what was said to her.

ALFRED BOXHALL (Inspector C). On June 22nd I served a notice on the prisoner, informing him that the deceased's deposition was going to be taken at the hospital—(Deposition: Read: "I am the wife of William Irwin; I have been living at Great Titchfield Street, at Peter Robinson's, not with my husband; I was going to my work at Peter Robinson's this morning, when my husband came up to me and asked me to speak to him; I told him I had no time; he said 'Take that, then.' He stabbed me; he struck me with a knife. I saw the knife; I ran away and fell down. I remember being taken to the hospital. We have quarrelled about money; I could not keep him; he had asked me for money. I have been living apart from my husband since twelve months last October. Last night my husband said I had driven the last nail into my coffin; I left him then. It was in Titchfield Street I left him. I met him by surprise this morning; I did not expect him. He has often assaulted me before. I have never charged him or summoned him for assaulting me. I never knew that I was going to meet him. He has waylaid me about four times a week. He has never done any work. Cross-examined. My quarrel was not exactly on account of my going out with another man; I have done so; a friend of my husband's, but there was nothing wrong; I have known him about two years and a-half.")

The Prisoner in his defence, on oath, said that Sexton had been visiting his wife while he was away; that his wife left him, and he did not know where she had gone; that the last child was not his; and that he did not remember using any knife or stabbing his wife.

GUILTY.—Strongly recommended to mercy by the JURY .— DEATH.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-490
VerdictGuilty > manslaughter

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MESSRS. AVORY and BODKIN Prosecuted, and MR. GEOGHEGAN Defended.

MR. JUSTICE BIGHAM considered that the charge of murder could not be maintained, and the prisoner stated that she would PLEAD GUILTY to manslaughter. MR. AVORY accepted that plea, and the JURY returned a verdict to that effect.— Two Months' Imprisonment

NEW COURT.—Friday, July 27th, 1900.

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Reference Numbert19000723-491
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492. GEORGE FALCON (21), FREDERICK JONES (19), and FRANK ELLIS, Robbery with violence on Robert Hatwell, and stealing 2s., his money.

MR. FITCH Prosecuted.

ROBERT HATWELL . I am a costermonger, of 15, Manor Street, Chelsea—between 11 and 11.30 on June 12th I was in the Three Pines, Manor Street, talking to the landlord, when the prisoners came in—I knew them—they called for a pot of ale—he would not serve them, and Jones hit me under the jaw—I knew him as Jonah—they ran out, and I after them, but could not catch them—they took about 2s. 4d. of mine—next morning I complained at the Police-station, and afterwards picked out two of them.

Cross-examined by Falcon. I did not see you in the Brompton Road two or three times afterwards.

Cross-examined by Jones. I have known you about two years—I did not notice you come in.

Cross-examined by Ellis. You and Falcon came in together—you ran away too far—I told the policeman I would leave it till next morning—I was not drunk—you and the others danced round me.

ELEANOR BUSBRIDGE . I am the wife of Edwin Busbridge, landlord of the Three Pines—I was in the bar clearing up the glasses when Hatwell was talking to my husband—the prisoners came in, and Falcon called for a pot of beer—my husband refused to serve them, and told them to clear out—Jones then hit the prosecutor on the jaw and butted him in the stomach—Falcon held him by the coat, and Ellis knocked his hat over his face—Jones put his hand in the prosecutor's pocket—I said, "You have picked the man's pocket"—they said, "Fetch a b——constable," and used filthy language to me—they went away—I picked Falcon and Jones out at the Police-station—their friends broke my window the other night.

Cross-examined by Falcon. You pulled the prosecutor's coat.

Cross-examined by Ellis. I picked you out as you were the only man with that coloured hair—I knew you as "Ginger Ellis"—the disturbance did not last five minutes—you pulled his cap over his eyes.

THOMAS JEFFERIES (Detective 136 B). About 7 p.m. on June 20th I met

Falcon in King's Road, Chelsea—I told him I was a police officer, and should arrest him for being concerned, with two others not in custody, in stealing money from a man's pocket in the bar of the Three Pines on the 12th inst.—he said, "I know nothing about it"—I took him to the station—when the charge was read he said, "I didn't rob Bob"—I saw Ellis at the station—I told him that he would be charged with being concerned with two others in stealing from the trousers pocket of Robert Hatwell 2s. in the Three Pines—he said, "I know nothing whatever; I was there, but I didn't rob Bob."

The prisoner Ellis. It is true what he says.

JOHN PICKERING (Detective B). I arrested Jones on July 12th in the Brompton Road—I asked him his name—he said, "Frederick Jones"—I said, "You answer the description of a man wanted for stealing 2s. from a man in the Three Pines"—he said, "You have made a mistake"—I conveyed him to Chelsea Police-station—when the charge was read over he said, "I was not there; that man," meaning the prosecutor, "knows me of old; he knows I was not there."

Falcon's Statement before the Magistrate: "That roan knows I was not pulling his coat and waistcoat about. All Mrs. Busbridge has been saying is a lot of lies."

Falcon's Defence: I was only there; I did not know what was going to happen; as soon as it occurred I went home.

Jones's Defence: I am innocent.

Ellis, in his defence, said that he was out that day selling papers; that he had been in a fish shop and had some supper, and, coming out, he met Falcon, and went to the Three Pines; that Falcon called for two glasses, and they would not serve them; that he had never been in the house in his life, and knew nothing of it; that Mrs. Busbridge heard he was called "Ginger Ellis," and that was why she picked him out.

GUILTY of robbery without violence. They then PLEADED GUILTY to previous convictions: Falcon at Westminster in November, 1899; Ellis on March 21st, 1899, at Clerkenwell; and Jones in the name of Alfred Jones on April 2lst, 1899, at Westminster; and other convictions were proved against them. ELLIS— Five Years' Penal Servitude. JONES and FALCON— Four Years' Penal Servitude each.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-493
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SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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MR. PERROTT Prosecuted.

ALICE MAUD SCOTT . I live at 196, Gloucester Terrace, W.—I was with my mother on July 3rd at 3.30 in Harley Street—we met the two prisoners and another man coming towards us—there was not room for us all to pass on the pavement, so I went at the back of my mother—I got a push by Lygo, and my chain purse hanging to my waistband, was taken—it contained £4, a shilling, and two first-class railway tickets—I identified Lygo next morning at Marylebone Police-court, and Grose the following Friday—this is my purse—I believe it was picked up.

ALBERT JOHN GARDNER . I am a grocer's assistant, of 31, Belsize Road, N.W.—I was in Harley Street, and saw three men running towards me—as I went further towards Camden Square I saw two ladies looking at each other—one made a statement to me—I recognised Lygo as one of the men running away—the lady said, "One of those men snatched my purse"—I gave chase, and came up to a constable; we then met another constable, and he chased them—they came round to where we were—they went in opposite directions—the policeman got hold of Lygo, but he got himself away—I tried to trip him up—I failed, but he fell by my side—then I saw one of the men throw the purse away—there was no money in it when I picked it up—Lygo said, "You didn't see me throw the purse away, did you?"

Cross-examined. I did not say to the constable, "I wish you had caught the other one; that is the principal one."

ROBERT DIGGINS (367 D). I was in Harley Street—the two prisoners and a man not in custody passed me—I followed them into York Terrace, and arrested Lygo, who ran into my arms—Gardiner gave me this purse—there was nothing in it—Lygo said, "You have made a mistake, guv'nor; I am not the man"—as we went to the station he tried hard on two or three occasions to get away, and was very violent.

ALBERT GITTENS (Detective D). I arrested Grose on July 5th—he said, "You are wrong; you have made a mistake"—I took him to the Police-station, and while there he said, "I expect I am done for, because I have been seen in Lygo's company."

Lygo's Statement before the Magistrate: "I was in Portland Road Station when I met Grose. We had a talk and walked along; I had no intention of stealing anything. I did not know they were going to do anything. Just then we passed the ladies. A chap I do not know snatched the lady's purse, and the three of us ran. I ran because if I had stopped I should have been caught all the same." He repeated this statement in his defence.

GUILTY .—They then PLEADED GUILTY >to previous convictions: Lygo at Marlborough Street, on February 3rd, 1899; and Grose, on July 20th, 1897, at Clerkenwell. Other convictions were proved against them.— Eighteen Months' Hard Labour each


NEW COURT, Saturday; and

OLD COURT, Monday, June 27th, 28th, and 30th, 1900.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-494
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > penal servitude; Imprisonment > penal servitude; Imprisonment > hard labour; Imprisonment > hard labour

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494— JAMES KING (18), CHARLES MILES (22), BENJAMIN DEVENPORT (27), GEORGE WALTER TRIGGS (31), and FRANCIS LE MAISTRE (66) , Stealing a gross and two dozen packets and nine tins of Vi-Cocoa and four parcels of Freeman & Hildyard's custard powder, the property of the Vi-Cocoa Company, Limited.

MESSRS. MUIR, PERCEVAL CLARKE, and LEYCESTER Prosecuted; MESSRS. HUTTON and FORDHAM appeared for Devenport; and MESSRS. KEELING and GANZ for Le Maistre.

ALBERT FERRY MACAULAY . I am a solicitor, and manager to Sir Arthur Prideaux & Sons, of Goldsmiths' Hall, solicitors for Mr. Wilson,

the owner of 48, Sun Street—I produce the lease of 48, Sun Street, originally granted to Mr. Lawrence—it was assigned on October 12th, 1897, to George Walter Triggs, the accused, who is still the tenant—the shop is used as a newsagent's and tobacconist's, and the upper part as a dwelling.

THOMAS RICHARDS . I am a printer's warehouseman—I live at 7, Stonefield Street—Le Maistre, by the name of Masters, occupied the first floor of two rooms in my house from the beginning of September, as living rooms at 8s. a week, up to the time of his arrest—his first rent was paid on September 18th.

CHARLES TORRENCE . I live at 31, White Lion Strtet, Pentonville, and am a packer employed by the Vi-Cocoa Company, Limited, at Buohill Row—on June 15th I packed a case of two dozen packets of sixpenny and six dozen tins of ninepenny cocoa in three boxes of two dozen each, and three dozen of eighteenpenny tins in three boxes—the value was £5—I put in the case four parcels of Freeman & Hildyard's custard powder, value 2s. a parcel—the case weighed 3qr. 22lb.—I handed it to Macilroy, Pickford's carman—it was addressed to Jones, of Colwyn Bay—I have seen the case in the possession of the police—this is the case (Produced)—I have also seen one packet like this with a dozen in, and 13 of these, and nine dozen tins of Vi-Cocoa—this is an eighteenpenny tin—the goods produced are the same that I packed.

Cross-examined by MR. KEELING. I identify the number on the case, A2285—hundreds of boxes are packed—I produce the ticket with the weight—we weigh every case we send out—we send out 200 a day.

JOHN ROWLAND MACILROY . I am a carman in the employment of Pickford & Company—on June loth I collected a number of cases from the Vi-Cocoa Company's warehouse in Bunhill Row about 4.45 p.m.—this is my way bill—one case was addressed to Jones, of Colwyn Bay—the weight is 3qr. 22lb.—I drove my van to York Road, City Road, to one of Pickford's depots, called the City Basin, from where packages are distributed to different places—when I called them off I missed this case—I arrived at the City Basin about 5 p.m.—Sun Street is five or 10 minutes' walk from Bunhill Row—it is near Broad Street Station—I reported the loss at once.

CHARLES ATKINS (City Detective). Upon June 15th I was watching 48, Sun Street—about 5 p.m. I saw King pushing a costermonger's barrow—on it was a large case of Vi-Cocoa—Miles was walking on oneside of the barrow, and James Payne, a man not in custody, was walking on the other—King wheeled the barrow to the front of 48, Sun Street—Payne and King carried the case into the shop; Miles walked in after them—they remained in the shop a few minutes—King and Payne came out carrying a case of Vi-Cocoa, which had been opened, followed by Miles—they placed the case of Vi-Cocoa on to the barrow, and all three went off with the barrow into Clifton Street—they remained talking in Clifton Street a few minutes, when King again wheeled the barrow containing the Vi-Cocoa case back to 48, Sun Street, accompanied by Miles and Payne—Miles and Payne carried the case into the shop, followed by King—they remained a few minutes, and then all came out without the case—King then wheeled the barrow away, acccompanied by Miles and Payne—they went up Clifton

Street into Erle Street—while they were away for the first time the prisoner Le Maistre came into the shop—I arrested King and Milos on July 2nd—I was with McLean—we told them we were police officers, and they would be taken into custody for being concerned with a man not in custody and others in stealing and receiving a case of Vi-Cocoa on June 15th—King said, "I do not know anything about it"—Miles said, "I have nothing to say"—we took them to the station—they were charged—Miles made a statement referring to some ties—they refused their addresses.

Cross-examined by MR. KEELING. Le Maistre came out of the shop again about 7 p.m.—the men took the case in, not by the side door, but by the shop door.

Cross-examined by Miles. On July 2nd you were taken into custody, and to the Court—on July 3rd I was examined—I said you were walking by the side of the barrow—it was about 5 p.m.—Le Maistre came about 5 p.m., and remained till 7 o'clock—we saw you before on the morning of the arrest, but were waiting to catch King and Payne, and you were with 20 or 30 others—McLean put his fingers to his mouth and put his head back, to mean a drink, and you followed—you may have said, "Don't take liberties."

HUGH MCLEAN (City Detective). I was with Atkins—we saw Miles in the City Road about 10 a.m. on July 2nd, and about 20 minutes later Miles and King, with 20 or 30 more, and made a sign to go and get a drink—they followed us, and we went and had a drink—while doing so Atkins told Miles that they would be charged with being concerned with others in custody and others not in custody in stealing a case of Vi-Cocoa, and further charging King with stealing ties—King said, "I do not know anything about it"—Miles said, 'You don't mean it"—Atkins said, "I do mean it; it is too true"—we took them to Moor Lane Station—they were charged—they were asked for their addresses—both refused.

Cross-examined by Miles. You may have been talking to one man, but about 30 were standing at the corner.

THOMAS DOWSE (City Detective-Sergeant). On June 20th I went with Detective-Sergeant to 113A, Houndsditch—the name over the shop was O'Donnell—it is a second-hand clothier's—I saw Devenport about 5 p.m.—I said, "We are police officers; we are making inquiries respecting a quantity of ties and ladies' blouses; do you know anything of them?"—he said, "No; it's not in my line"—I said, "What are these boxes at the back?"—in a small back room at the back of the shop there was a quantify of boxes connected with another case containing bows and long ties—I said, "What are these?"—Devenport said, "Oh, it is what the old gentleman left"—I said, "What is the old gentleman's name?"—he said, "I believe his name is Twig"—I said, "Describe him to me"—he said, "He is a man about 60, with a long, flowing beard, and very gentlemanly appearance"—I then communicated with Newark, the officer in the tie case—I said to Devenport, "Have you anything else here?"—he ssid, "No"—we searched this box-room, and found two large boxes of Dr. Tilibles' Cocoa; a large box similar to one here; this is one—I made the note on it, "Found at 113a"—it is marked "A2285"—I said to Devenport,

"How do you account for the possession of these two boxes?"—he replied, "The old gentleman brought them here a few days ago; four or five days ago," meaning Le Maistre—I had seen Le Maistre, who answered the description given—Mrs. O'Donnell said, "You know I have cautioned you against this man"—we then searched the premises thoroughly, and eventually Devenport was conveyed to Moor Lane Police-station, and detained for inquiries.

Cross-examined by MR. FORDHAM. I mentioned the latter part of my evidence at the Police-court, though it is not in the deposition—the ground floor of the house is used as a shop for second-hand and new stuff: readymade clothes—I did not know O'Donnell was a leading public man and a guardian of the poor till this case cropped up—I do not deny that Devenport is his nephew; he calls him father—the shop is about a fourth the size of this Court; about 17ft. square—the Vi-Cocoa was in the back room of the shop—if there was a door it was open—Devenport was salesman, I presume—Devenport may have said, "They are not in our line," or "We have not got any," or something of that kind—we searched the house with Mrs. O'Donnell's consent.

Re-examined. I was a witness at the Police-court three or four times—some cloth was over the boxes.

WILLIAM SARGANT (City Detective-Sergeant). About 6.30 p.m. on June 20th Sergeant Dowse and I went to 48, Sun Street, a tobacconist's shop—the name "W. Lawrence" is over it—I saw Marion, the wife of the prisoner Triggs, first—Triggs came in from outside, and I said, "We are police officers; have you any ties or blouses in your place?"—he said, "No"—I said, "Are you quite sure? because we are going to search your place"—he said, "Well, I have some parcels left here sometimes by a man I let the basement to"—I said, "What is his name?"—he said, "I do not know"—I said, "Where does he live?"—he said, "I do not know; he has not been here for a long time"—his wife then came into the room and said, "Now, George, tell the gentlemen the truth"—he said, "Yes, I have got a few things downstairs"—we then went down in the basement, and seized a quantity of property—amongst it was this empty case—he said I should find some billheads, and I found some like the blank form produced, with the name of Matthews—I asked him how he accounted for the goods downstairs, and said, "Can you produce a receipt or invoice for these goods?"—he said, "No, I cannot; and I have got some more goods upstairs; come upstairs"—we then went up into a bedroom on the first floor back, and found a number of things, but nothing relating to the cocoa—I said, "What have you got here?"—he said, "I do not know myself"—I said, "Can you produce an invoice or a receipt for any of these goods?"—he said, "No, the old gentleman brought them here"—I said, "Who do you mean by the old gentleman?"—he said, "Well, we call him Twig, but I have heard his name is Masters"; and he described Le Maistre, and said, "In fact, he has brought all of it here"—in the kitchen, amongst other things, I found two dozen 3d. packets of Freeman's custard powder in boxes of a dozen each: also three boxes, each containing a dozen 1s. 6d. tins of Vi-Cocoa, and three boxes, each containing two dozen 9d. tins—one was on the shelf, the others on the floor—I said to him and his wife, "You will both be

charged with being concerned with others, in custody and not in custody, in stealing a quantity of ties, blouses, and other goods"—the wife was discharged—I took them to the station, where I saw Le Maistre and Devenport in custody.

Cross-examined by Triggs. I understand that the proprietor of the basement had left 12 months ago—you led me to the bedroom, and showed me 109 boxes of tobacco pouches.

THOMAS DOWSE (Re-examined). Newark came into Devenport's shop as the representative of Wright & Co. during the conversation on June 20th, and said, "These are my goods which have been stolen"—they are ties and gloves—I have a list of them—they are here—I found 22 and 20 white card boxes at the back of the shop—each contained a dozen gentlemen's ties—they were identified by Newark—they relate to another charge—on June 21st I went to 39, Harrow Alley, a tailor's shop, of Elian Solomons, in the same neighbourhood, with Detectives Sargant and Atkins—Solomons handed me these three parcels of black twist silk—then I went to the shop of Mr. Feldman, of 3, Duke Street—he handed me three parcels of twist silk, similar to the one produced, and three leather pig skins—on June 22nd I went to 134, Bow Common Lane, an address given by Devenport as where he lived—I found these two canvas wrappers—one is marked, "1676, F. Steiner & Co., Sunny Side"; the other, "M. Bros, Ltd., W. V. 13198"—on June 25th I went to 5, Stony Lane, a general dealer's shop kept by Mr. Brown, of lace, shirts, and under-clothing—I received from him one box of flannelette embroidery and six boxes of white linen embroidery.

Cross-examined by MR. FORDHAM. The boxes at Devenport's were covered over as if to keep the dust and dirt away—a receipt for tea was handed to McLean—Devenport has been in a small grocery business, about nine months at 134, Bow Common Lane—I never heard anything against his business.

WILLIAM SARGANT (Re-examined). At 48, Sun Street I found in the basement this hand trolley with the name scraped off, and some pencil writing on it; also this wooden case with the figures "215" on it—it contained 25 1/2 gross of metal parcel-grips for ladies to carry parcels with—in the sitting-room I found this cardboard box containing 31 pairs of kid gloves, and in the bedroom on the first floor 109 cardboard boxes—each box had a dozen tobacco pouches—these are some produced—in the bedroom were five cardboard boxes, containing 58 children's sun bonnets, his roll'of cretonne, and one pair of cretonne curtains, new, three new ladies' blouses in a box, a box containing two new-fronted shirts and some glass cloth marked "180," and this piece of canvas, with a piece of paper sewn in, was found in the kitchen cupboard.

HUGH MCLEAN (Re-examined). On June 15th I was in Sun Street at 9 a.m.—I saw Triggs and Le Maistre shortly after 10—about 3.45 p.m. I saw Le Maistre and Triggs leave 48, Sun Street—Triggs was carrying a large brown paper parcel—they went to 3, Stony Lane—the name over the door is "Henry Lambert"—Le Maistre took the parcel from Triggs and into the shop, and Triggs went in the direction of Liverpool Street—in a few minutes Le Maistre came out and went next door to Mr. Brown's, No. 5, without the parcel—he stayed a few minutes, then went back to

No. 3—he came out shortly afterwards with the parcel, and took it into No. 5, left it, and went in the direction of Liverpool Street—I went to Devenport's house, 134, Bow Common Lane, with Dowse and Atkins, on June 21st, and with Constable Callingham to 11, Stonefield Street, Barnsbury, Le Maistre's address—in his room on the first floor I found these two pieces of green cretonne of the same material and pattern an that found at Sun Street—on June 15th, about 5 p.m., I saw Meredith pushing a barrow in Sun Street with a case from the direction of Wilson Street—he stopped outside 48, Hun Street, took the case off the barrow, and in doing so exposed No. 215—he took it into Triggs' shop, and came out without it—that is the box containing the metal parcel-grips—Atkins and I arrested Le Maistre in Finsbury Square—this is the bag he had with him—two boxes of cigars were tied on in a parcel—the other articles were found in it at the station—this is the black unmanufactured silk, and there were three of these Derby ties, three boxes of cigars, a tin of Vi-Cocoa, and a bottle of boot polish.

Cross-examined by MR. FORDHAM. Mrs. Devenport produced a receipt at the house at Bow Common Lane of April 18th for 300lb. of tea at 1s. 2d. per lb.—she said it was bought in the Commercial Road, then that it was bought from the Triggs mentioned in the receipt—she told me that she had not it on the premises, and sent for it—she said that it was the receipt for the tea that was wrapped up in canvas found in the basement.

Cross-examined by MR. KEELING. The receipt is signed by Triggs—the invoice is made out in his name—I did not tell Le Maistre—I was going to put him away for a long term—we looked through everything, with Mrs. Le Maistre's consent.

CHARLES MCLEAN (Re-examined). On June 20th I saw Le Maistre go from 48, Sun Street, about 12.15—he went to 113a, Houndsditch—he was carrying a small parcel in light-brown paper—he remained about two minutes, and came out without the parcel—he went to a music shop, then went back to 113A, and took the parcel away.

JOHN MACKENZIE KNIGHT . I am a civil engineer—I live at Wanstead—I own the house 134, Bow Common Lane—I let it on lease to a man called Parry—he assigned to Richardson, and Richardson to Devenport, who has kept a general provision shop for about a year, and paid the rent.

Cross-examined by MR. HUTTON. I was satisfied with the two references he gave me—I know nothing against him.

JAMES SIBLEY . I live at Wroughtonstall, Lancashire—I am foreman packer to Messrs. Steiner & Co., of Sunny Side Works—on March 27th I packed three bales of cretonne, containing 20 pieces in all—two bales contained eight pieces each, and one contained four—the average length was about 60 yards—I directed the parcel to Hodges & Co., London—I put the numbers on the bales: 3084, 5534, and 1676—the wrapper (Produced) 1676, had the four pieces—I sent them by the London and North-Western Railway to London—the wrapper and the cretonne (Produced) are ours—the cretonne material is the same—it is printed by our firm—it is the registered design and pattern of our firm.

Cross-examined by MR. KEELING. We print a pretty fair quantity—it is a very good pattern.

STANLEY FIELD . I am a checker on the London and North-Western Railway at their Broad Street Station—I was on duty on the morning of March 28th—three bales were addressed to Hodge & Co., King Edward Street, London, from Sterner & Co., in Lancashire—this is my delivery sheet—I loaded them on Pickford's trolley 884 to deliver to the consignee.

WILLIAM LIVERMORE . I am a carman employed by Pickford & Co.—on March 28th I was sent to carry goods from Broad Street Goods Station of the London and North-Western Railway Company, and I left there between 1 and 2 p.m. with trolley No. 884—this is the delivery sheet—amongst other things, three bales are directed to Hodge & Co., King Edward Street—I delivered two and reported one short—I did two or three deliveries before I got there—Sun Street is opposite the goods station.

GERALD CORK . I am assistant to Messrs. Hodge & Co., tapestry manufacturers, of 9, King Edward Street—on March 28th I received two bales of cretonne from Messrs. Steiner & Co.—I expected three—the third never reached us—its value was £5 17s. 11d.

GEORGE LOCK . I live at Hoxton—I am employed by Messrs. Savage & Co., of 72, Milton Street, City, shirt manufacturers—on April 11th I started on a journey with one of my employer's trolleys and some boxes on it—"12, Milton Street," was cut on the handle—there were 13 parcels, three boxes containing shirts—I took them to our customers at 66, Basinghall Street—I left the trolley in the passage while I took five parcels up to the first floor—when I came down the truck and the other parcels were gone—I wrote in black lead, "H. Savage & Co., 72, Milton Street."

SEPTIMUS ROOK SAVAGE . I live at East Dulwich—I am a warehouseman to Henry Savage & Co., Milton Street, shirt manufacturers—this box contains two shirts with renewed fronts—I recognise them by the mark in the neck-band, "605," as two sent to 66, Basinghall Street, with a number of parcels, on April 11th—they were not all delivered—we sent about 10 or 12 dozen—about a dozen in a parcel—the others were new—I believe this mark is ours.

EUGENE WETZLER . I am traveller to Louis Landes, of 9, South Street, Finsbury Square, manufacturers' agents—in April I received a consignment of tobacco pouches—this is the invoice for 11 gross—they were packed in 132 cardboard boxes, in one case, No. 4273—I recognised 109 boxes, a dozen in a box—the case was put in our passage by the carriers, Raasch & Co.—I saw it there—I missed it on May 30th—these are some of the white boxes—the numbers correspond with the invoice—the value is £19 1s.; 181 marks—Sun Street is round the corner—this manufacturer always uses white boxes.

ROBERT MOORHOUSE . I am a warehouseman, employed by Mitchell Bros., of Waterfoot, near Manchester—on April 11th we sent by London and North-Western Railway a consignment of 116 saddle bags to Dover & Pomfrey, 1A, Cannon Street—this is a cover to one of the bales—I marked it, "W V 13198," over the stamp, "M. Bros, Limited."

STANLEY FIELD (Re-examined). I was on duty at 12.20 mid-day at Broad Street Station goods bank on April 12th—I checked the ba le marked "W V 13198," from Mitchell & Co., addressed to Dove & Pomfrey—I loaded it on Pickford's trolley, No. 1628, and checked the delivery-sheet.

THOMAS DUFFIELD . I am a carman, employed by Pickford & Co.—at 9 a.m. on April 18th, I took a load of goods from Broad Street Railway Station on trolley No. 1628—I found out at Pomfrey's the bale marked "W V 13198" was not on the load—it was on the delivery-Sheet—I had had four deliveries in Cannon Street—I left the boy with the trolley while I went inside to deliver—I marked the sheet, "Not on."

ERNEST SHARP . I am warehouseman to Dove & Pomfrey, 1A, Cannon Street—our warehouse was closed from Good Friday, April 13th to Tuesday, April 17th—we did not receive the consignment of 116 saddle bags.

JAMES HENDERSON BROWN . I am an agent at 11 and 12, Foster Lane, City—on June 5th I handed my boy, Herbert Merry, three rolls of check glass-cloth for delivery—it is used to wipe glasses—I identify it by its special No. 180—it measures 92 yards.—25s. is the manufacturer's cost price.

HERBERT MERRY . I am employed by Mr. Brown—on June 5th I took out a trolley with three parcels of glass-cloth to deliver at Messrs. Head, Baker & Co., at 94, Watling Street—I delivered two—when I came out the third was not there.

HENRY THOMAS JOSEPH FISHLOCK . I live at 6, Hopwood Street, Enfield Road, Walworth—I am one of the directors of Maygrove & Co., Limited, silk merchants, 51 and 52, Aldersgate Street—about June 6th I gave instructions and saw a parcel of about 566 skeins of India silk, and 60 lb. in weight, packed up and addressed to Clowes & Son—they were 10lb. bundles—those goods never came back to me from the dyers—the silk produced is about half of it—the value is about £30, including the dyeing.

Cross-examined by MR. KEELING. It was a kind of cream colour whensent to be dyed—I identify it by the size of the thread and the character of the silk—we are pretty well the only people who make this silk in this form, and it would be very funny to find the same quantity—I have not the slightest doubt this is our parcel.

Re-examined. I believe this is the wrapper it was sent away in—I find a piece of paper used by our firm tacked with string into the wrapper.

RICHARD CLOWES . I reside at Brook Street Dye Works, Leek, Staffordshire—I am in partnership with my father as silk dyers—on June 9th I sent to Maygrove & Co., Limited, a parcel of six bundles of silk we had dyed for them—I believe the wrapper is the same—each parcel contained 18 double rolls and one single roll of three skeins in a roll, 37 rolls of 111 skeins to the parcel, altogether 666 or 667—it was dispatched on June 9th by Sutton & Co., carriers—this is all our making-up—part of the paper is the same.

JOSEPH WILLIAM MARTIN . I am a carman to Sutton & Co., carriers, of Golden Lane—on June 11th, about 9.15 a.m., I received a truss of

silk in a canvas wrapper to deliver to May grove & Co.—the wrapper was very much like this—I put it on a van just inside the tailboard in Sutton's yard—I left a boy in charge of the van in Golden Lane and went to the offices to sign the sheets—when I came back, in a quarter of an hour, the truss was missing—I counted all my stuff in before I started out of the yard—this is my signature, and "D.S. 23 sheet," is put on by a clerk.

ELIAS SOLOMON . I am a wholesale clothier, of 39, Harrow Alley—I know Le Maistre as Masters—on Monday, June 11th, he left six parcels of silk at my shop, about 4 p.m., to be called for—three were taken away—I was not in then—I saw three parcels put on one side in the evening—I was in the public-house when he brought them—I saw him in the morning in the public-house—I next saw him on Wednesday or Thursday—he said, "You do not mind me leaving them here for a day or two till I want them"—he did not call for them—I handed three parcels to Sargant.

Cross-examined by MR. KEELING. I next saw him on Wednesday or Thursday at my shop—I knew him as a man who took round samples—he said, "Will you let me leave them here till I call for them?"—they were lying on a chair in my shop.

EPHRAIM FELDMAN . I assist my father, an auctioneer, at 3, Duke Street, Spitalfields—I know Le Maistre as Masters—he left with me four parcels—three, he said, were silk—they were handed to the police—he left one about the middle of June, the others the following day—he asked me to mind them—he said he would be back in a little while—the second day he said he would come for them in the afternoon.

Cross-examined by MR. KEELING. I sold him some cigars—he paid for them.

Re-examined. He paid cash—I did not give him a receipt; he did not ask for one—I sold him 100 the first time he called with the parcel and 150 the second time, at 21s. the 100.

THOMAS DOWSE (Re-examined). I received three parcels of silk from Solomon on June 21st—this is one—I received three from Feldman on the same day—that has the tickets on it and was identified by Mr. Clowes—I was present when the small sample of silk was found in Le Maistre's bag on June 20th—this wrapper was found in the back kitchen cupboard at 48, Sun Street on June 20th.

THOMAS SMITH . I am forwarding clerk to Charles Rowley & Co., of Birmingham—on June 14th I sent, addressed to J. Goftoo, Aldgate Avenue, a case containing 52 1/2 gross of metal grips, No. 215—they were packed in boxes each holding a gross—I gave the case to a carman of the North-Western Railway, and made out a consignment note—the value was 24s. 4d.—each crip bears on it the name "Davison, Newman & Co."—I identify them by the label and by the name.

WALTER FISHER . I am a checker to the London and North-Western Railway Company—on June 15th, about 11.30 a.m., I received at the Camden goods station a box addressed to "J. Goftoo, Aldgate Avenue"—I checked it on van No. 268 and ticked it off on the sheet—the number is at the top of the sheet in red pencil.

EDWARD JAMES . I am a carman on the London and North-Western

Railway Company, at the Camden goods station—about 1 mid-day on June 15th I left the station with van 268 laden with goods—my delivery sheet shows a box addressed to J. Goftoo, of Aldgate Avenue—I got the sheet from the office—when I was in Bishopsgate I missed the box—I marked the sheet "Not on the load," as I could not find the box.

WILLIAM SARGANT (Re-examined). I found this box at Triggs' place, 48, Sun Street, under the kitchen table, on June 20th.

FREDERICK CHARLES MORGAN . I am a packer employed by Messrs. Body & Foster, who trade in the name of Macombie at 66 and 67, Wood Street, as tie manufacturers—on June 19th I packed a parcel for Brown Brothers, of Westbourne Grove, about 7 p.m.—it contained these four boxes of ties and bows—under this box is the writing of one of our servants—I handed the parcel to a carman of Pickford & Co.'s after seeing it addressed by the foreman.

Cross-examined by MR. KEELING. They are ordinary ties, made in thousands—the patterns are the same as ours.

FRANK SHAYLOR . I am salesman to Body & Foster—this is my writing, on the bottom of this box—I passed them forward—in the long box are six dozen and eight, in this two dozen, and in the five others two dozen and four in each; 13 dozen and four altogether.

WILLIAM JOHN HITCHCOCK . I was a carman for Pickford's—I am now in the 2nd Royal Fusiliers Militia—on June 19th I received a parcel for my van from Morgan at 67 Wood Street—I put it on the tail-board, and signed this sheet—it is addressed to Brown Brothers, of Westbourne Grove—about 7 p.m. I drove the van to the City Basin along Golden Lane, arriving about 7.20 p.m.—the checker marked the sheet in my presence that the parcel was missing.

THOMAS DOWSE (Re-examined). These ties were found at 113A, Houndsditch, and the three loose ties in Le Maistre's bag.

CHARLES MARSHALL . I am van and warehouse boy, employed by William Wright & Co., at 79, Fore Street—on June 19th I helped to pack these 20 boxes of ties and two boxes of ladies' blouses—the ties are a dozen and the blouses six in each box—I did them up into four parcels—these three blouses are ours—I started to deliver them in the van at 1.45 p.m.—I sat in front with the driver—we went through Sun Street—in Commercial Street I looked, and the four parcels were missing.

Cross-examined by King. We stopped in Finsbury Square when the horse shied.

CHARLES ATKINS (Re-examined). On June 19th I was watching 48, Sun Street—at 2 50 I saw King cross from Clifton Street carrying a number of card-board boxes like these—I described them as being a foot long—he took them into the shop at 48, Sun Street, and came out without them—on June 20th, about 2.55, I saw the boy Higgs leave 48, Sun Street—he came back with a barrow—I saw Le Maistre hand out of the shop door to Higgs five brown-paper parcels—the boy wheeled the barrow away—Le Maistre followed on the pavement to 113A, Houndsditch—the boy then handed the parcels to Le Maistre in the door-way, and Le Maistre put them on the counter at the back of the shop—Devonport, who was in the shop, and Le Maistre undid the parcels, took the brown

paper off, and tied them together with string—I could see the boxes—Le Maistre showed the contents of one box like this to Devenport—I could see they were ties through the glass at the top of the box—afterwards Le Maistre took the wrappers away—the boy called at Morris Brown's, 5, Stony Lane, and then went back to 48, Sun Street—on June 20th I arrested Le Maistre in Finsbury Square—I was with McLean—I said, "We are police officers; we shall take you into custody for being concerned with another man in custody, and a man not in custody, in stealing and receiving a number of boxes of ties"—he said, "My God, what do you mean by this?"—he was taken to the station, and the charge was read over to him—he made no reply—he was carrying this bag—these three neckties were found in it.

Cross-examined by MR. HUTTON. I saw Newark about two hours after watching Devenport's shop—Dowse and Sargant were with me—I was standing at the door when I saw the ties displayed—the door was open—Sargant may have told me that Devenport carried on the business sometimes—I did not know Devenport.

WILLIAM HENRY HIGGS . I am 14 years of age—I have been employed by the prisoner Triggs for the last 15 months; for the first three months after school hours—he kept a newsagent's and tobacconist's shop, and dealt in sticks and pipes—during the last six months Masters (Le Maistre) used to come two or three times a day or more, sometimes with a little bag in his hand or a small parcel—sometimes lads about 15 would bring larger parcels—I have seen them five or six times—there is a small flap to open on the pavement into the basement—I have found parcels there in the morning—I delivered papers and parcels and served in the shop—Masters went with me—I have been to 113A, Houndsditch, about three times; once with a parcel on a barrow, and twice with a parcel on my shoulder—we used to hire the barrow—I saw this trolley there about two or three months—I cut the address out with a chopper and plane—it was Milton Street, City; I forget the number—nobody told me—on June 30th we hired a barrow from Mr. Green—Triggs sent me; he gave me six parcels done up in brown paper and string—they were put on the barrow and I took them to O'Donnell's, at Houndsditch—Masters went with me—I handed them to him in the door of the shop—he handed them over the counter to a lady and gentleman—I took the barrow back—Mrs. Triggs paid 2d. for the use of it—I went to 134, Bow Common Lane, about two months ago with one small box—Triggs told me I had a parcel to take out, and Masters told me where to go—I put a piece of canvas over it loose—Masters went with me part of the way, and then gave me notes of the different roads to go.

Cross-examined by MR. HUTTON. I went first to Houndsditch about May—I saw a lady and two gentlemen in the shop—I have been to Harrow Alley, which is close to 113A, Houndsditch.

JAMES HORACE NEWARK . I am agent to William Wright & Co., 79 Fore Street, City—I went with Dowse to 113A, Houndsditch, on June 20th—Dowse went in first, and I went in later—Devenport was there—I identified these 30 boxes of ties as the property of my firm—they are worth about £3—I saw one box containing three blouses at Moor Lane Police-station—I heard Devenport say the ties were left by an old gentleman,

and they were not his property, and he would give the detectives all the help he could in the matter.

Cross-examined by MR. HUTTON. Nothing was concealed—the Vi-cocoa was not more concealed than the ties.

Re-examined. The ties were tied with string in white paper.

THOMAS DOWSE (Re-examined). On June 20th I found at 113A,, Houndsditch, these boxes tied together.

WILLIAM SARGANT (Re-examined). I found this box of blouses at 48, Sun Street on June 20.

FRANK SHAYLOR (Re-examined). There are 58 bows and 70 long ties in these boxes—five long ties and 10 bows are missing.

ALFRED GEORGE GARDNER . I am warehouseman to I. & R. Morley, glove merchants, Wood Street—on June 20th, at 1.30, 86 boxes of gloves were dispatched to workers H. and E. in Castle Street—I produce box marked "Banfield"—that enables me to identify the gloves—"Banfield" is our representative in the North of England—these are some of the 400 gloves we sent in the 86 boxes—their value is £3 10s.—there are three dozen and a half in a box.

ARTHUR SOWTER . I am employed by Messrs. Green, of 25, Castle Street—on June 20th I fetched from I. & R. Morley's a number of boxes—the traffic was stopped in Noble Street—then I went on to Green's with my hand truck—there were two of us—I had hold of truck—the other stood behind—at Green's a box was missing—we had nine journeys to carry them in—no one watched—Miss Green counted 85.

WILLIAM SARGANT (Re-examined). These gloves were found on June 20th on the back of a table in the parlour of 48, Sun Street—there are 31 in the box now.

CHARLES ATKINS (Re-examined). I watched 48, Sun Street from June 11th to 20th, from about 10 a.m. till about 7 p.m., when Le Maistre left—McLean was with me from the 13th till the 20th, except when one left to follow the prisoners—I saw Higgs go with Le Maistre on four occasions—they went to Solomon's, 49, Harrow Alley, with goods upon a barrow to Mrs. Cohen's, 75, Middlesex Street, and to Mr. Harris, 4, Greenfield Street, Whitechapel, with goods on a barrow—the fourth occasion he took a barrow and five parcels to 113A, Houndsditch—they are shops with cloth goods—I saw Miles once and King twice—the first time he hah the Vi-Cocoa, and then when he took the ties—these are the boxes.

Cross-examined by MR. KEELING. Le Maistre came with his bag in the morning—he visited 16, South Street, Finsbury Circus, on the second floor.

THOMAS DOWSE (Re-examined). I served a notice to produce, of which this is a duplicate, upon Le Maistre on July 18th.

JOHN WISE (City Detective-Inspector). On November 18th, 1895, I was present in this Court when the person named in that certificate of conviction was convicted of receiving stolen property—that is Francis Le Maistre.

Devenport, in his defence, on oath, said that he bought tea of Le Maistre for his wife's shop, but refused to buy other things which were left, and that he, had no reason to believe Le Maistre was dishonest, or that the things were stolen. He received a good character.

Evidence for Devenport.

HARRY WILLIAM MARKHAM . I live at 193, Clapham Park Road—I am traveller for Keely and Tom, grocers and provision merchants—I have known Devenport just over 12 months—about March or April last he consulted me about some tea, and showed me a sample—he asked me if it was a good time to buy—he bears a good character.

JOHN MORLEY . I am a greengrocer, coal merchant, and contractor—my shop is opposite where Devenport lives in Bow Common Lane, and within 30 or 40 yards of it—he weighed some tea in my scales in a box—he afterwards brought an empty box and weighed that separately—it was then taken back to his own shop—I have known him 14 or 15 months—he bears a good character.

ANDREW SAMUEL COOPER . I lodged with Devenport at 134, Bow Common Lane—I am a fruiterer—I saw some tea in his shop about three months ago in large cases covered in canvas.

Cross-examined by MR. MUIR. There were three cases—the canvas cover was tight—I did not see what the cases were like, because the covers were taken off in the cellar, where it was rather dark—Devenport asked me to help him down with them—I do not think they were tea-chests.

PATRICK O'DONNELL . I am a clothier, of 113A, Houndaditch—Devenport is my wife's nephew—he has been employed in my shop since he left school, about 12 years—his wife keeps a grocer's shop—I have had no reason to complain of him, and he was always true to his time.

Cross-examined by MR. MUIR. I have known Le Maistre five or six years as a traveller in job goods—I have bought of him, but not lately—five years ago—I knew he had been convicted—I have not been in business the last two or three years—my wife and nephew managed it—I was not there at all except to breakfast and supper.

Le Maistre, in his defence, on oath, stated that he sold goods for Triggs and others on commission, not having an idea that they were stolen.

Triggs, in his defence, said that all he bought he paid a fair price for, believing they were not stolen.

BEATRICE MILES . I am the prisoner, Miles wife,—I live at 64, Baldwin Street, City Road—my husband, I and the two children were on Hampstead Heath when he says the case was missing in June—I think it was on a Friday—we went about 2 o'clock, and did not get back till between six and seven—after that he did not go out—I pawned my wedding ring to go because I did not feel well.

DEVENPORT— NOT GUILTY . LE MAISTRE— GUILTY . He then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction of felony at this Court, in November, 1895. He was stated to be an associate of thieves and receivers.— Seven Years' Penal Servitude. TRIGGS— GUILTY .— Three Years' Penal Servitude. MILES— GUILTY . He then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction of felony at the Guildhall, on October 3rd, 1899. Three other convictions were proved against him, and he was stated to be an associate of thieves.— Fifteen Months' Hard Labour. KING— GUILTY .—He then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction of felony at the Mansion House on April 28th, and another conviction was proved against him.— Twelve Months' Hard Labour

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FRANK PHILIP DAVIS . I live at 80, Colworth Road, Leytonstone, and am valuing inspector to the East London Water Company—I know the defendant and I have seen him write—we received this application from him about December 5th, 1898: "Gentlemen, I request you will supply me with water for erecting four houses at Preston Road, Wallwood Park, Leytonstone, to contain seven rooms, and I hereby consent to such supply being cut off in case the water should be wasted," etc.—the supply was granted at a charge of £1 8s. 6d.—about March 21st, this further application was received from the defendant for eight more houses in Preston Road, which supply was also granted and paid for at the same rate—on May 23rd he paid for a supply to twelve more houses in Preston Road, to come from the same source as the last, for which he paid £3, being a total of £6 13s.—that is all he has ever paid for a building supply to the estate—in June, 1899, there was an increase of charge made for water for building purposes, when it was charged on a different system according to the size of the houses—on September 9th this application (E) was received for eleven more houses, enclosing a cheque for £2 15s.—he stated that it was to re-connect an old building supply—the cheque being on the old basis of charge was returned, and he sent in exhibit (F) giving the dimensions of eleven houses he proposed to build in Poppleton Road—this is the letter(Read)—the charge, under the new system, amounted to £14 11s. 2d.—the supply was not taken up or the money paid—about March 14th there was another application by the defendant

in respect of seventeen houses in the Dyson Road—this was reduced to twelve houses; six to build, and six to plaster only—the price worked out at £11 10s.—it was not taken up—on April 25th the defendant called on me at my private house between 5.30 and 6—he said, "Your foreman has found a pipe running into my well; this pipe I had for drinking purposes for my men; as the water has been running into the well I will pay anything"—I said that I could not deal with the matter, and referred him to the people at Lea Bridge, the superintendent engineer, to which he replied, "Oh, very well; I would not have had this happen for anything"—the company received this letter of April 26th from the defendant (Read)—the company replied on April 30th, stating that the matter would come before the court of directors—on May 1st the defendant wrote: "Dear Sir,—I regret that you are unable to give me an interview," etc.—on May 4th there is a letter from the general superintendent, stating that the whole of the correspondence and the report of the case were in the hands of the solicitors of the company—on June 15th the defendant applied to the company for a building supply.

Cross-examined. The second building supply to the back of 32, Preston Road, was converted into a domestic supply on March 9th, 1900—I cannot say if the houses were then finished—no building supply was paid for after then—I have known the estate for some years before it was laid out for building—there was a lake, on the site of which some of the houses in Preston Road are built—it was about 200 ft. by 40ft; we had a punt on it—when I saw Holland on April 25th I had not heard from Shearman—it is a constant supply, and cisterns as well—when Holland called on me he did not say he had dug up an old building supply—I jotted down what he said on a piece of blotting paper—it seemed so, strange—I heard him state before the Magistrate that he had said so, but it was not correct—it might be possible for him to say such a thing without my jotting it down—I have known Holland over 15 years as a highly respectable man, a builder in good business—he has a great many houses, but I do not know enough of him to say what his rents amount to—he has been in the neighbourhood many years, and his father and brother, too.

Re-examined. I believe he is well known, and takes an active part in local matters, though not in public matters—he was the only builder on that land coloured green on the plan—in getting a building supply, the houses for which the supply is asked are stated—the first he got was for Nos. 2, 4, 6 and 8, Preston Road—it would not be possible for him to find an old building supply at the back of No. 8, Preston Road.

JAMES SHEARMAN . I am district foreman to the East London Water Company, and know the district in question well—tht buildings first erected were small houses in Preston Road—a supply was granted on three different occasions for houses in that road, first for four houses, then eight, then 12—no other supply was taken up by Holland for Preston Road—the Poppleton Road supply, which had been used for the first four houses, was eventually cut off—the second supply was at the back of No. 32, and that payment was for a domestic supply—the main runs down Poppleton Road, and connects the three, houses, shown in

Poppleton Road and Preston Road, but it was cut off—in September, 1899, Holland drew my attention to a hole at the back of No. 2, Preston Road—he said he was digging a hole there to collect the surface water, because the company's charges were too heavy for a building supply—I have not measured the well, but should say it was 4ft. by 4ft., and 8ft. deep; it might be more, and was boarded by planks—the first time I saw it it was empty—in a fortnight or a month's time when I passed it was about full, say 2ft. from the top—at that time Holland commenced building in Poppleton Road—in the latter end of December or the beginning of January, I noticed water trickling across the gardens of Nos. 2, 4, and 6, which did not appear to be surface water—all through October and on to April Holland went on building in Poppleton Road and in Dyson Road—I knew he had had no building supply, except for houses in Preston Road—on April 25th, about 11 a.m., I noticed when passing over the land, there was at the rear of No. 8, a small hole about 2ft. long and 1ft. deep, with a bag across it, and I saw water trickling over the bag—I lifted the bag from it, and saw water boiling up—I saw nothing but water in the first instance, but I immediately pulled up my coat sleeve and put my hand in, and in doing so I found a lead pipe coiled round in the hole—there was about 9 in. to 12 in. of water there—I lifted it up and discovered water coming from the end of it—I could not tell then where the pipe came from, for it ran away tinder the ground—the water was coming through the pipe into the hole—there was a small channel or grip running down to the big hole at the rear of No. 2. the place pointed out to me in September, and water was running from this grip down to the well—I could not at that time say how far below the surface the pipe was—just before my getting to the hole a man dipped a pail of water from the small hole where the sack was—the sack was not quite big enough to cover it right over—it was an ordinary pail, holding from two to three gallons—the man was working on the building, and he took it to the rear of Dyson Road, and put it into the mortar bed—Holland's building was going on in Dyson Road—I called one of the workmen, and asked to see Holland, and he came in two or three minutes from the works in Dyson Road—I asked him the meaning of this pipe, and where it was leading from—he said it was leading from No. 8, Preston Road—I showed him the water running down to the big hole, and told him he would have to come to the company's offices and see our chief Superintendent the next day—I left him and went to Dyson Road—he followed, and came up to me again after I had been attending to another gentleman on business, and asked me to give him one more chance, that he would go to the office and pay, and make it worth my while, and would give me whatever I liked to ask—I said I could not compromise the matter: it was too serious—I reported it verbally to the District Superintendent at once, and made a formal report in writing after—on the same day I sent a man named Eaton to inspect the fittings of No. 8, and to trace the pipe, if possible—except for Holland's statement I had no knowledge that it came from No. 8—I did not go with the man, but visited the place again on the 27th, and there was no water there or running along the channel to the big hole, neither was there any

in the gardens of Nos. 2, 4, 6, and 8—the surface was dry—I saw the tenant, Mr. Brett, there on July 5th, and while speaking to him in the back garden, Mr. Holland got over the fence into the garden, and joined us—Brett explained to Holland that I was there to expose the pipe in the garden, and Holland's advice to him was as it had got to such a state it would be best to leave it, and it was left.

By the COURT. It was not until July that things were ripe for taking steps, and a summons was then issued against Holland—I went there again on July 13th by arrangement to examine the garden, in order to trace the pipe—I had no authority previously—we opened the garden at the corner of the lawn, at the end of the lead pipe, and we found the pipe with a garden hose attached to it, and to a pipe in the scullery, and the water flowed from it on to Holland's land—to prove the pipe was still there the garden hose was attached by means of the company's main, and it was attached to the tap by me.

By MR. GILL. The pipe was not traced when I was there—there was no ground opened—the hose was attached to the pipe by the W.C. one of Holland's own—this is the joint that came from the W.C. (Produced)—the length of the garden from the W.C. to the fence is about 48ft. to 50 ft., and about 12ft. to 14ft. from the other end of the fence to the small hole—on July 5th I saw some timber removed and the pipe exposed on Holland's side of the fence, by his request—I went by arrangement with the solicitors about 5 or 6 p.m.—he removed the timber at the rear of No. 8, Preston Road, and underneath it there was some lead pipe coiled up with a stop-tap on it—it was connected with a pipe running into the garden of No. 8—the tap was about 5ft. from the fence—you could turn it on and off, and then it ran to the little hole—turning it on at that distance, it would flow in the pipe, continuing under ground, to the little hole, and then run down to the little hole and through a channel into the big hole—this tap was necessary, or there would be an overflow of water.

Cross-examined. On April 25th, when I put my hand in and found the pipe, Holland said that one of the workmen had left the tap running—the end was, as it appears now, partly battered up, and water was coming from it—the water was then trickling out of the little hole—it was an ordinary pipe, and had been apparently hammered up—I found the pipe in the garden on July 13th, but on July 5th I found the screw-down tap—the matter had been in the hands of the company since April 26th—on July 5th Holland pointed out that pipe with the tap, showing that there had been connection with the main—it would have been easy to remove the whole of the pipe between April 25th and July 5th—I could not say pipes were left about the garden to July 13th—the pipe was lying under the timber—it was pointed out by Holland on July 5th and July 13th, not found; pointing out and finding is a different thing, I think—the land dopes it the corner of Preston Road and Poppleton Road in a south-westerly direction—the well is in the direction of the slope—I have been on the land two or three times a week, but I have no fixed time for going—I go round my district at different times—it might be twice in a day I should cross there: sometimes, perhaps, not for a whole week—I went there on April 25th and walked by the side of the fence of No. 2, Preston Road—I saw Holland

on the scaffold in Dyson Road—the scaffold is right in view of the little hole—I do not know Goss—I could not say it was not Gross I saw before the justices—I saw Palmer before the justices—I did not see that he was plastering in Poppleton Road—I could not identify the man who dipped the pail into the small hole; he was, perhaps, 100 yards away—I stood at the rear of the twelfth house that was then building in Dyson Road—I might have been 12 or 20 yards off from the little hole when I saw him dip the pail into it—the hole was 2ft. over by 1ft. deep, as near as I can give it you—I only had to wait a very short while for Holland to come up—I saw him coming towards me when he came off the scaffold—the man was not dipping the pail when he was coming to me—the hole was only partly covered up, so that anyone passing close to the hole would see the water at once—it had not rained heavily on April 25th to my knowledge—I have never measured the big well—it might be 13ft. deep, running down in some parts to 14ft.—I can not say—the estimate I give of it is about 8ft. by 4ft. by 4ft.—I may have seen the well 20 or 30 times when I passed the land to go to the buildings—I have never seen it empty at all to my knowledge, only in September—I cannot say that I saw it as late as June 23rd—I have not been on the land since this case stood for trial—I cannot say the latest date I saw the well at the back of No. 2—the last time I saw it was June 13th, being filled up—I saw a hole at the rear of Dyson Road on June 16th, at Holland's request, when well No. 1 was shut up—when it was shut up I cannot say—there was about 1ft. of water in this bole; it was about, the same size round, but not as deep as the other—I never measured it—it was boarded round, the boards sticking out 5ft. or 6ft. above the ground—I cannot say when it was dug—the depth from the ground level was about 5ft. to 6ft.—the one shut up was at the back of No. 2—the one I saw open for the first time on June 16th was, according to the plan, at the back of No. 40 or 42, as near as I can say—I cannot say whether there is a hole at the back of No. 14, Dyson Road, with water in, not boarded in—it may have been there without my observing it, there are so many holes about this land—I cannot say that I noticed a large ballast hole at the back of Dyson Road more than in any other portion—the land has been all dug, for sand and ballast—when I found the pipe and water trickling from that opening, of course one might assume it came from the rear of Preston Road, but it is possible that it came from a number other than No. 8—a man going and finding a thing like that cannot assume, unless he traced the pipe, where it was going to—on looking at the houses round, it might be a reasonable surmise, but it was not the surmise I made at the time—I did say before the Magistrate that I examined the direction of the pipe, and it appeared to come from 8, Preston Road, but that was simply turning round after the man saying it was coining from there—it would come from whichever way the pipe was laid.

Re-examined. There was nothing to suggest to me that it was an old building supply—the pipe in the hole was under the ground, just covered, so that you could not see it until that piece was cut out—when the boards were removed it was found coiled up underneath—my district is a large one—the water trickling and the man taking a pail of water from it

drew my attention on that particular day—it was coming down the channel in the direction to me.

JONATHAN EATON . I am a waste inspector of the East London Water Company—at 12.30 on April 25th I received instructions to go to 8, Preston Road—I arrived at 2.30 and went to a water closet in the garden of No 8 and found a man working on the pipe there—I picked up a piece he had cut out, namely, a wiped joint, and he was making a connection to the waste preventer of the w.c, replacing the piece he had cut out—the piece cut out connected the pipe that ran through the garden—I picked up the piece and brought it away.

JOHN BRETT . I live at No. 8, Preston Road, Leytonstone—Holland is my landlord—I went into possession about June 22nd—a domestic supply had been laid on, I having paid for it I cannot say exactly how long before—no connection whatever had been made with the supply pipe of the outside W.C. during my occupation from June 22nd to April last—I was not aware of any pipe running under my garden connected with the supply pipe of the W.C., and running on to Holland's land—I first learnt it when there was a short piece of pipe taken from under the path—I did not on April 25th send a plumber to cut off the connection with the W.C., neither was it done with my knowledge—I did not know anything whatever about it—I think I was out on that day—I saw, when I came back, that the cement path had been opened—I inquired what it was, and I was told it was an old pipe taken up, left from an old building supply.

Cross-examined. I think I inquired of my daughter or the servant, I am not positive—I heard it was an old pipe from an old building supply which had been taken up—I knew nothing about it.

CHARLES BARD . I am a house pointer, of 8, Rosebank Grove, Walthamstow—I was formerly working for Peachey, of Walthamstow, and after that I worked for Holland—I started in February, pointing houses—three men worked with me, George Simpson, Gardner, and Challis—I supplied the men—while we were working there in February, March, and April, Holland was working on the job himself constantly, and the same hours as we were—he used to be with the bricklayers—we used a considerable quantity of water, which we got out of the big hole at the back of the first house in Preston Road—it was the only water on the job—it used to come from a leaden pipe about 40ft. from the big hole, and ran down a little channel—when the hole was full it did not run—it was always full—all the men working on the place got their water from the big hole—there was a small hole where a pipe was, big enough to dip a pail in, and which was covered up by a sack—Holland told me to tell my chaps to keep it covered—if anyone wanted a pail of water and the big hole was dry, they used to dip it out of that—I used about 70 to 80 pails of water a day—I did not know where the tap was—I was working there on April 25th, when Mr. Shearman found the pipe—I saw him find the pipe, and send for Holland—he pulled up his coatsleeve and put his hand in, and found the pipe—you might see it without doing that if you dipped the water out of the little hole—three days after the water was cut off, following Mr. Shearman's visit, pipes were put in the man-hole at the corner which had to do with the sewer, connecting it with

the large hole—the water lasted three days after Mr. Shearman cut it off—it did not become quite dry at the bottom—then the connection was made with the sewer—they used the sewer water as fast almost as it came in—as people put it down their sinks and used their W.C.'s it used to come into the big hole—my men complained of the objectionable character of the water; they could not stand it; it was very offensive—I complained to Holland about it, and he said it would do my men good—I left the job because I could get no chaps to work for me to finish my job up—we stayed there till June 2nd, and then all went away—I remember Mr. Mardell coming, and I told him of the hole.

Cross-examined. The opening in the man-hole was made in the night, and fluid drawn from it—I never saw a double load of chalk lime delivered on the land—the hole was opened three days after April 25th, when the water was cub off—on May 11th Mr. Mardell inspected the man-hole—I do not know Goss—(Goss was brought into Court)—I know him—I did not see him brick up the opening in the man-hole—it was not bricked up on May 11th, the day Mr. Mardell inspected it—the fluid was flowing when I finished on June 2nd, and on June 9th it was also running in the hole—I was engaged to point the houses in Preston Road and Poppleton Road by contract—"C. Bard" in that book is my writing—I cannot tell you from that book when I was working—on June 1st I signed the book; there was 8s. 6d. short that week on one road—I asked Holland to pay it; he refused until the job was finished—I told him I could not get the men to work on account of the bad water—I did not say, "I will make it hot for you"—I was at Stratford Police-court once—I was not a witness—I communicated with the solicitors for the water company at Stratford—I told them the truth—after Mr. Mardell came I went to the Town Hall, Leytonstone, to complain of the bad water on June 9th, and I told the East London Company's officials what I have told you to-day, about the water running from the little hole to the big one, and being drawn in pails—it was after they had found it out—it was the same day as I asked Holland for money—they had found out about the pipe from the little hole to the big hole, and the water running; they did not want me to tell them that—I went at once to the Stratford Petty Sessions, and was fetched by one of the water company's officials—I had not noticed an account in the papers of the previous proceedings—everybody on the job who wanted water used it out of the hole—there was a continuous flowing of water from the little hole, where the pipe was, to the big hole, until it was full—the water ran out of the pipe, down a channel about 6 in. wide, into the hole—where the hole was it was covered up by a wet sack—people could see the water, but not the pipe—the hole smelt of sewage down to June 9th, when I went to the Town Hall.

Re-examined. When Mr. Mardell came on May 11th he smelt the plaster on the wall—I told him not to rub his nose on the wall—he said, "What's up?"—I said, "Go and look at the hole," and then he called Holland's attention to the hole—two gentlemen took a note of my evidence the day I was at Stratford.

By the COURT. We used the water from the time I first worked for Holland till Shearman came and cut it off—I did not know anything till

Holland told me to tell my men to keep it covered over with the sack—I did not quite tumble to it, but I became a little suspicious.

BERTIE GARDINER . I am a pointer, of 40, Bremner Road, Walthamstow, and was employed by Bard between February and June this year, working on Holland's houses—my gang used between 70 and 90 pails of water a day from the big hole—the water got into the hole by a pipe running about 40ft. away from the well, down a trench about 1ft. wide and 6 in. deep—the end of the pipe was in the small hole, which was covered with a sack—there was no other water on the job—the water going into the big hole was regulated by a tap about 4ft. from the fence—Holland told me to go over against the fence and put my hand down the hole and turn the tap on—I found water in the hole—Holland was there daily working—water was also got from the small hole where the pipe was—I remember filling a bucket at the pipe, and leaving the water running—I took the bucket up on the scaffold, and Holland told me to run down and turn off the water and cover the pipe up with the sack—Shearman came up one day and found the pipe—after that the water began to smell badly—I complained of it to Bard—I left on June 2nd—the water stank so that we could not use it.

Cross-examined. I was not at Stratford Petty Sessions—I saw the water company's solicitors last Friday—Bard asked me to go the same day—I did not know that Holland was charged before the Magistrates till Bard came—I went to the solicitors with him—I had been working for him two or three months, and have known him about two years—I know Holland refused to pay Bard till the work was finished—anyone working on the ground could see that there were three holes with water in them—the channel was about 40 ft. long—the hole where the pipe was and the tap were covered over—I told the solicitors all I knew about this matter last Friday—I am certain that the incident of my leaving the tap running after I took a pail of water from the hole, and Holland telling me to stop it, occurred—I told that to the solicitors—they read over to me what I signed—I did not think there was anything wrong in taking the water—I mentioned it to the solicitors because they asked me—Bard and Simpson were with me, and heard me tell them—Challis came with us the next day.

Re-examined. I am not in Bard's employ now—this is the statement the solicitors took from me on July 20th (Produced).

GEORGE SIMPSON . I am a pointer, of Walthamstow—I am now working at Clapton—down to June 2nd I was on Holland's houses in the Dyson and Poppleton Roads—we want a considerable quantity of water for pointing—I was working with Bard and Gardiner, and we got our water from the large hole at the back of the houses—when I first went there the water used to run from the pipe down a little bit of trench over land into this hole, and we dipped it out with a pail—Holland was working there all the time we were—a man from the water company discovered the pipe—after that the water smelt so bad that I complained to Holland—he made no answer—I left the job in consequence on June 2nd.

Cross-examined. I cannot say how long that sewage water ran into the hole—I left about a fortnight after we noticed it—I remember a load of lime being there—I do not remember a double load coming by mistake—

I know where the chalk is deposited—it has to be run into putty very quickly, and cannot be kept—it was while the chalk lime was on the land that the well smelt—I know that Mardell came there and examined the man-hole, and found the outlet stopped up, and a hole made in the brickwork—I did not hear Holland tell him to make it good, nor do I know that he came a few days after and found that there was no sewage going into the well—I could not be certain that sewage was going into the well as late as June 2nd—Bard asked me to go to the solicitors—I was not working for him when he came for me.

ALBERT CHALLIS . I am a pointer's labourer, and worked at this place from February to June—I used to fetch water for the men pointing from the well, which ran from a pipe underground—some distance from the well there was a little channel between the two holes, along which the water ran into the big hole—the small hole was covered over with a sack—when the water in the big hole got low a tap was turned on to fill it again; I have done it—it would perhaps be left running half the day—all the water used for the building was taken from the big hole—Holland told me to cover up the hole when I took water—the water afterwards smelt, and I left.

Cross-examined. Water was taken from the ballast hole when the water was low in the big hole—that was after the water stunk; about a week after Shearman came—it might be more—I do not know of a double load of chalk lime being delivered there—water is used for running into putty—the well smelt for more than three days—I was there when Mardell came, and had the manhole opened and the brickwork made good—the well smelt of sewage after that, and up to my leaving on June 2nd—Holland would not pay Bard, and Bard said that he would make it hot for him—I had to go short through it—it did not make me hate him more—I went before the Justices with Gardiner, at Bard's request, on Saturday.

Re-examined. I don't understand "attending here on subpœna"—I was made to come.

HENRY MARDELL . I am an inspector of the Leyton Urban District Council—my attention was drawn to this matter on May 11th, and I went to the spot marked "well" on this plan—it smelt very strongly of sewage—it was close to where the men were working—the water was, I believe, being used for running putty—I at once spoke to Holland about the man-hole, from which I was told water was running, and asked him to open it—he sent for a man, and it was opened—I found a bag of clay just inside the end of the pipe, which dammed up the water which should have run into the sewer, and it ran into a small pipe which ran back into the well—it was near the bottom of the well—the sewage was thus taken to the well—Holland said he thought somebody had sold him and given him away; that he did not think he was doing any harm—I had the bag taken out, so that the sewage could go into its proper channel—I went there frequently, and on June 9th there was another complaint—I did not notice a smell in the interval, and opened the man-hole again—I saw it on May 12th—on June 9th there was 6 in. of fluid in the well—I had some drawn out—it was rather thick, but it did not smell of sewage.

Cross-examined. This is my day-book, and this my pocket-book (Produced)—I saw the plug taken out of the exit pipe on May 11th,

and there was a hole in the brickwork of the man-hole from which there was an outflow of sewage—when I went there the next day it was bricked up—I had the top taken off to survey it on May 14th, and saw it again on June 9th—I did not see the pipe again—I went there on June 9th in consequence of a complaint of a workman—that is the man who complained(Bard)—I had a letter from the surveyor on June 9th, saying, "Go round to Holland; see man-hole opened; take the top off and see if any sewage can get in there"—this is my report: "Saw Holland, who said one of his men had gone down to the Town Hall to state that sewage was still running into the hole at the back; I examined hole, and found 6 in. of water; I did not find anything like sewage, nor did I think any could get in," etc.—though there was no smell of sewage, I asked Holland to fill up the well, and it was done; the other hole was opened on May 15th—that is at the back of the Dyson Road, between 14 and 16, Preston Road—that hole was not boarded; the one closed on June 9th was—when I saw Holland on May 11th he did not explain why he had stopped up the sewer exit, or say there was a double load of chalk lime deposited there—to meet such emergency he had drawn the water from the sewer—the man-hole had been built by him—he did not say the stoppage was only for two hours or two days—I have no notes—on Friday last I attended on the estate, and tested the 9-in. drain pipe fitted to Dyson Road, for which I used 200 gallons of water—the whole length of the pipe would hold 600 gallons—I tested it in sections; four man-holes.

Re-examined. I live in the same street as Holland, and know him—I am always there to advise—I asked Holland to close the well at once; on May 11th—he did not do so at that time—the ballast hole is between Preston Road and Dyson Road, not far from the fence of Preston Road—I cannot say where the water came from—it was not there the first time I saw the hole.

NEWMAN DEBNEY . I am a plumber, of Queen's Road, Plaistow—I was at 8, Preston Road when the water company's inspector came and picked up the piece of pipe I had cut off—Holland told me to go there and cut the pipe off, and make it good—it was under the seat of the W.C.—I then connected the two pieces of pipe.

Cross-examined. I cut the pipe off externally outside the house, about 1ft. 6 in. from the wall and a foot under the ground—Owen Debney is my son—he is a plumber, and also worked on this land—he has a brother Walter—I do not know who put the pipe there; I should judge not Owen by the look of the work.

H—WILKINSON. I am District Superintendent to the East London Waterworks Company—about 10 a.m. on April 26th Holland came to my office in Lea Bridge Road—I had heard something of the matter the previous evening at my private house—he said, "I am sorry I have been using the company's water which I have not paid for"—I said, "How many houses have you built?"—he said, "Twenty-three"—I told him it was too serious a matter for me to deal with, but I would see the company's engineer—he then said, "I am very sorry; I wish to apologise and pay"—when I left my office to go to the engineer's office he said, "Do the best you can for me"—I went up then and saw the engineer, and explained the matter to him, and the engineer said, "Have him up"—

Holland and Shearman were there—when Holland spoke to me Shearman, Hardy, and a man named Wicks were in my office.

Adjourned to next Sessions, in consequence of infectious illness in the family of one of the Jurors.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-497
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-498
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence
SentenceNo Punishment > sentence respited

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498. FREDERICK PEARCE, Maliciously wounding Charles Mann, with intent to disfigure him.

MR. MUIR Prosecuted, and MR. EDWARDS Defended.

THOMAS MARTIN . I am a dock labourer, of 27, Dale Street, Canning Town—on June 30th I was in the Liverpool Arms, Barking Road, with Mann—the prisoner followed us and said, "Where are you working?"—I said, "You are a stranger to me"—he said, "You are working for button's"—I said, "I was six weeks ago"—he said, "You are a blackleg"—I said, "I am not"—he said, "If you do you will have to put up with the consequences"—I received a blow with a fist—I did not see whether there was anything in it—Mann fell down and rose up, and the prisoner and others struck him, and they struck at me, but did not hit me—we found the prisoner in the Duke of Clarence 500 yards away, and gave him in custody.

Cross-examined. I saw the blow struck, and saw blood on the man—it was inside, just as he was going out at the door—it was an up-blow—I did not see any other man strike Mann inside the house, but I saw them strike him outside—the doors were standing open—I saw no instrument in the prisoner's hand—Mann did not call out that an instrument had been used—I do not know the prisoner—I have not come in contact with him in any labour dispute.

CHARLES MANN . I am a dock labourer—on June 30th, about 6 p.m., I was in the Liverpool Arms with Martin—I had two glasses of ale—the prisoner came in, and four or five men came in afterwards—the prisoner said to Martin, "You have been working for Mr. Sutton since the strike"—he said, "I have not worked for them since the strike; I shall work where I like"—the prisoner said, "I shall serve you both alike," and struck me under my jaw, I do not know what with, and called me a blackleg—I felt something very sharp, but did not see anything—I did not fall—I was struck two or three times—I went to Canning Town station—I found the prisoner at the Duke of Clarence and gave him in custody.

Cross-examined. I do not know any of the other men who struck me, I have been out every night to find them—12 or 13 men were in the Liverpool Arms, and those set on me—I did not think I had been struck with anything but a fist—between the first blow and my discovering the blood several other men had struck me—I was not aware that the

prisoner was connected with any dock dispute, I had never seen him before.

Re-examined. I was struck by the others on my back—the prisoner struck the first blow, and it was then that I felt something sharp.

ELIZABETH ALCHEN . I am barmaid at the Liverpool Arms—on June 13th Pearce came in and had a drink, and Mann and Martin came in afterwards—Pearce spoke first—he struck a blow, and knocked Mann or Martin down—it was the shortest one, but he knocked them both down—I picked the prisoner out at Canning Town Station on July 9th from nine or ten others—I went to call the manager after the blow was struck.

Cross-examined. I did not see any blood after the blow, or anything in the prisoner's hand—he went out after Mann and Martin—I did not see the general scuffle—the first blow was upwards.

WILLIAM ANDERSON . I live at 150, Victoria Dock Road, and am assistant to the divisional surgeon—on June 30th I was called to the station and saw Mann suffering from a wound half an inch below the margin of his mouth—it was a clean cut, and must have been done by some sharp instrument—I do not think the sharp edge of the counter would do it—if he fell against a counter or broken glass that would cause effusion, but there was no effusion.

Cross-examined. A man receiving a sharp blow with a fist on his jaw would suffer dead pain, not sharp—it was most likely a downward blow.

GEORGE TULICK (31 KR). On June 30th, at 6 o'clock, Mann came to me bleeding from a wound on the right side of his face—I went with him to the Duke of Clarence, Barking Road—he pointed out the prisoner to me and said, "That is the man who struck me"—the prisoner said, "You have made a mistake, governor"—I said, "I shall take you for assault"—I searched him, and found these two straps on him.

The Prisoner, in his defence, said, upon oath, that there was a row, and he walked out and left them, but did not strike a blow; that he had no knife or sharp instrument or anything in his hand; that he was not a union man, and had nothing to do with the dispute, but that the union were conducting this case; and he had worked for the Dock Company.

GUILTY of unlawfully wounding.— Judgment respited.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-499
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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499. JOHN LOWE (30) PLEADED GUILTY to maliciously breaking two plate-glass windows by night, the property of Lipton, Limited.— Six Months' Hard Labour.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-500
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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500. HARRY SMYE, (45) Indecently assaulting Ada Moseley.

MR. HUTTON Prosecuted.

GUILTY .— Six Months' Hard Labour.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-501
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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501. EMILY KEELING, Breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John Curton, and stealing a clock, his property.

MR. JAY Prosecuted.

AMELIA CURTON . I am the wife of John Curton, of 10, Corbett Road,

Walthamstow—on Wednesday afternoon, June 27th, I met the prisoner in Wood Street—she spoke about her home—I said I was sorry—I had a pint of ale in my jug, and we had a drink together—I took her home with her little girl, after buying 2d. worth of greens, as she said she had nothing to put them in—she played my piano, and stayed a good hour—I asked her several times to go—she left between 5.30 and 6 p.m.—I went out, having locked my house up, for a few minutes—when I returned I found the glass of the door broken, so that I could put my hand to the latch—in the house all the grass was thrown from the vases, and my large clock was taken off the mantelpiece—I also lost a cape belonging to my daughter—it was hanging on a nail in the parlour near the clock—I ran out for the police, when a constable came—I afterwards identified the prisoner at the Police-station—I had given her an old skirt, and upstairs was a pair of old trousers which I had promised her in the morning.

Cross-examined by the Prisoner. I know what I pawned—I did not pawn the clock.

WILLIAM RICHARDSON . I am a greengrocer, of 48, Wood Street—I know the prisoner by sight—on Wednesday, June 27th, I saw her, about 5 p.m., at the corner of Corbett Road, facing my shop—she appeared to be watching someone and looking round the corner for about five minutes—she went up the Corbett Road—I saw her come back about 10 minutes after carrying under her arm a marble clock, partly covered with a white handkerchief—she wore a cape and a white straw hat—I gave information to a constable—he brought her to my shop, and I identified her as the woman I had seen carrying the clock.

Cross-examined. When you were with the constable I never said that I could not swear you had a white hat on—I did not say you owed me 2s. 2d.—my man served you.

EVELYN LACY . I live at 59, Wood Street, Walthamstow—on Wednesday, June 27th, about 5 p.m., I saw the prisoner and Mrs. Curton together in Wood Street—about half an hour afterwards the prisoner went along Wood Street in the direction of Wood Street Station and Mrs. Curton's house—she had on a white hat and half of a man's white muffler—I saw her the same night in custody, and identified her as the woman I had seen in the afternoon.

ALFRED JAMES (292 N). On June 27th, in consequence of something Richardson told me, I went to Corbett Road and saw Mrs. Curton—I found the window of the door broken—about 5.40 p.m. I went to 60, St. John's Road, Walthamstow—I said to the prisoner, "What about the clock?"—she said she knew nothing about the clock—I said, "I will come in and see"—I looked over the two bottom rooms, but could not see anything of the clock—I said, "You had better come and see Mr. Richardson"—I took her to Richardson—he said, "That is the woman who had a clock under her arm"—I took her into custody—she was charged and said, "I am innocent."

Cross-examined. Richardson did not say that he could not swear that you were the woman, but that she had a white straw hat on.

The Prisoner's statement before the Magistrate: "I am not guilty; I know nothing about it."

ALFRED JAMES (Re-examined). The prisoner's house was searched by

detective officers—inquiries have been made—the clock was not found—I searched two rooms—I did not go upstairs.


Before Mr. Recorder.


23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-502
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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MR. A. GILL Prosecuted.

GUILTY .— Six Weeks' Imprisonment in the Second Division.

Before Mr. Justice Bigham.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-503
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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503. GEORGE GRIFFITHS(27) , Feloniously attempting to murder Lucy Griffiths.

MR. GRAHAM Prosecuted, and MR. HALL Defended.

WILLIAM HALL VELENDER . I am an oil merchant—on Friday afternoon, June 8th, I was at Anerley Station, waiting for the 3.8 up train, and saw a baby lying on the platform, and then I saw the prisoner and a woman struggling on the line—the train was in sight—I tried to call the engine-driver's attention—I saw the prisoner deliberately pick the woman up and lay her head across the outer metal—they ware struggling in the 4-ft. way—the prisoner then turned himself to the 6-ft. way—he held her down on the line, and before I could get assistance the engine was upon her; the rail or the guard-rail, I cannot say which, came and thrust her over—I heard her scream, and saw her struggle—a porter picked her up and put her on the platform, and I saw that her arm was crushed.

Cross-examined. There was room between the 4-ft. way and the platform—if anybody wanted to remove the woman from the 4-ft. way they would have to take her across the metals.

Re-examined. The prisoner did not try to get his wife away from the train.

HARRY CLEAVE (492 P). I was called to the station on this afternoon, and saw the woman on the platform, with the prisoner kneeling down by her—she said to him, "You wretch! you have pushed me under the train, you thought you had finished me, you wretch!"—the husband replied; "No, my dear, I did not do it"—she said, "Yes, you did; this is the walk you wanted to take me for, is it, to Anerley Station; you have been away from me seven days and seven nights, and then came back last night."

THOMAS FITZGERALD . I went to Penge Station on this Friday evening, where the prisoner was detained—I told him he would be charged with the attempted murder of his wife—he made no reply—after the charge was read to him he said, "I am innocent of that charge; I tried to save her; there were two ladies who were on the platform, but I do not know who they were; I had the child in my arms"—he was searched, and 6d. in silver and 1 1/2 d. in bronze, a pocket-knife, a key, a waterman's licence, a lighterman's licence, two railway tickets, and a scarf found on him.

EDWIN GEORGE FOGGATTER . I am station-master at Anerley—on this

afternoon I was coming up some stairs and saw the prisoner and his wife leaning over a fence—I thought they were quarelling—they walked down the platform, and when the train came in I heard a scream—I did not see the woman get on to the line, but I assisted in getting her from the front of the engine on to the platform—the prisoner came and knelt down by her side—the policeman stopped the bleeding—the prisoner knelt down and kissed her—she said, "Don't kiss me, you brute! you put me on the line"—he said, "Don't say so, or you will put me away"—the woman was sent to Guy's Hospital.

JAMES DAY . I am an engine-driver on the Great Eastern Railway—I was driving the 3.8 train, and as I was getting into the station I saw a girl and a chap larking—I saw him dragging her towards the edge of the platform, and as I got nearer he jumped down with the woman—I put on the brake, but I could not stop the train in time—I saw them on the platform afterwards—he said, "Kiss me, girl; you see what you have done for me"—I said, "Go away, you villain! see what you have done for the girl!"

Cross-examined. I was about 100 yards away when I first saw them, and about 15 or 20 when they were on the line—the woman was not trying to get to the edge of the platform, and the prisoner was not trying to hold her back.

ALICE PINDER . I am the wife of the Rev. Henry Pinder, and live at Anerley—I was going by this 3.8 train—whilst I was waiting for it I walked up the platform, and on my way back I saw the man and woman and the baby, which the man was carrying—I passed them, and then heard a disturbance—I turned round, and saw the two on the metals—the woman was on her back, the prisoner was over her, with his hands over both arms—I do not think he was helping her.

MRS. DELAMERE. I was waiting for this train, and saw the prisoner and his wife on the metals—the woman's head appeared to me to be across the metals; the man was leaning down and holding her—I heard her screaming.

ARTHUR PANGHURST . I am head porter at Anerley Station—I heard screams on this afternoon—I saw the man and the woman on the line—the woman was in the 6-ft. way—I got down and helped her up—I heard her say to the man that he had pushed her—I saw the baby lying on the platform.

CORPS (93 P). I was called to Anerley Station, and stopped the bleeding of the woman's arm—she said, "My husband threw the baby on to the platform, and then threw me on the line"—the prisoner said, "Don't say that, or I am a ruined man"—he tried to kiss her, and she said, "Don't kiss me; you have kept away seven days and seven nights."

CHARLES ADAMS (464 P). I was called to Anerley Station on this Friday—I heard the woman say to the prisoner, "You pushed me under"—the prisoner made no reply.

LUCY GRIFFITHS . I am the prisoner's wife—we have been married three years next September—I have not had a happy married life—he had been away for seven days and seven nights—when he came back he asked me to go for a walk, and if I would take him back again—I said I would

not take him back—he asked me to go to Deptford with him—I live at 64, Mark Road, Sydenham—Deptford is too far away to walk with a child; it is four or five miles—we started walking at 10.30—we stopped at a public-house, but I do not know the name of it—we then went to the Anerley Arms, where we had some more to drink—we went to the railway station and stood leaning over a fence—I was carrying the baby then—my husband said, "Here comes the train; I will take the baby"—I gave it to him, and we walked towards the edge of the platform—he put the baby down on the platform and picked me bodily up in his arms and jumped with me on to the line, laid me across the line, and held me till the train came in—I could see the train coming—I screamed and struggled—I felt my arm snatched—I was taken up on to the platform, and the bleeding was stopped—my husband came and knelt by my side and caught hold of my hand, and said, "There you are, Lou; good-bye; it is only your arm, after all"—I said, "You wretch! you have not finished me"—he said, "Don't say that, or I am a ruined man"—he kissed me on the forehead—I was taken to the hospital, and had to have my left arm taken off—six weeks before this my husband blacked both my eyes when I was in bed asleep, and broke my nose at the same time—on June 1st he ran at me with a knife—I summoned him once at Greenwich Police-court for knocking me down with a baby in my arms—he has called me shocking names, and has always said that if I went against him he would go to the gallows when he came out, a happy man—he was not the worse for drink when he put me on the line.

Cross-examined. I have good cause to feel angry with my husband—we were married in September, 1897—before that I had never attempted to take my own life at New Cross Station—I have never attempted to throw myself in front of a train—when we went to the edge of the platform on June 8th I was by my husband's side; he had the baby in his arms—I did not jump on to the line myself—his feet did not catch in my skirt—my head was on one metal and my feet towards the other—my husband was at the back of my head—he was not pulling me towarads him—he was too far back for the train to catch him—he has never seen me the worse for drink.

Re-examined. If I had tumbled down by myself, and my husband had not been there, I should have had plenty of time to get out of the way.

The Prisoner, in his defence, said, on oath, that he did not jump down in front of the train with his wife, but that she jumped down by herself, and he went after her to try and save her.


23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-504
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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MR. BOYD Prosecuted, and MR. PERCIVAL HUGHES Defended.


Before Mr. Recorder.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-505
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-506
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment > penal servitude

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23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-507
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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Before Mr. Recorder.


23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-508
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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508. JOHN WALKER(21) and WALTER JAMES MILLER(30) , Conspiring, with other persons unknown, to deceive John Hogg, and procure Walker to be employed by him.

MR. ARTHUR HUTTON Prosecuted; MR. POCOCK appeared for Walker,

and MR. PURCELL for Miller.

JOHN HOGG . I am manager to Henry Woodwell, of the Stirling Castle public-house, Camberwell—on April 15th I advertised for a barman, and received several answers, and amongst them Walker called—he gave his address, Bird-in-bush Road, Peck ham—he said he had been nine months with Mr. Miller, of the Black Bull, High Street, Borough, and had left about six days; that previously he had been living at the Railway Tavern, Hornsey, for 18 months—I went to the Black Bull the same evening about 6, and saw Miller, the landlord—I told him I had come after the character of Walker—he said he knew his business, and he could not speak too highly of him as a good, honest, and sober man—I asked him if he knew where he was living before—he said, "The Railway Tavern, Hornsey," and that he had a good reference from there with him for 18 months—I went back, and Walker called the same evening—I told him his reference was all right, and he came in to work the next day—he was with me 16 days, and the takings fell off not less than £16—my suspicions were aroused by the quantity of coppers we got rid of in giving change—there were two men I did not like the look of, and I told Walker not to serve them any more—I told them to clear out—two minutes afterwards Walker paid, "I am going too, governor," and he went—I should not have taken him without a reference.

Cross-examined by MR. POCOCK. I had three barmaids—the potman helped occasionally—I am manager to Mr. Woodwell—the licence is not in my name—we paid him 16s. a week—he lived in the house—I paid him two weeks—he did not call for the last two days—all the money goes through my hands—we take about £600 a month—I am not a member of the Camberwell, Peckham, Dulwich, etc., Trade Protection Society—Mr. Woodwell is—he is prosecuting.

Cross-examined by MR. PURCELL. I do not know that April 15th was Easter Sunday—I did not go to the Black Bull on Easter Monday—I am not sure what day I went—I said, "Are you Mr. Miller?"—we talked for about five minutes—I am sure it was some day in April—I am not sure it was July 10th that I went to the Lambeth Police-court—there was a row of men at the back of the Court—I recognised Miller—I was not sure that I should—Walker was there—I could not be mistaken about him—I did not tell Miller that he had gven a false reference.

Re-examined. Walker told me Miller was the landlord—the takings Increased again directly Walker left.

WILLIAM ADCOCK . I keep the Havelock Arms, Meeting House Lane, Peckham—Walker was in my employ for a shore time last January, when I was ill—he came on a Saturday, and I got rid of him on the following Monday week—I missed money—he referred me to the Essex Hotel, Broadway, Hammersmith—I telegraphed, and received a reply, "Not here; wire to the Red Lion, Aldersgtte"—I wrote a note, asking certain questions, and sent a stamped envelope, but received no answer—I was so pushed that I was obliged to take him.

CHARLES HOLT . I am manager of the Red Bull, High Street, Peckham—in May last I replied to an advertisement in the Morning Advertiser, addressed to "H. H.," 44, Rye Lane—Walker replied in the name of H. Haywood, and he referred lne to Miller, Black Bull, High Street, Borough—he said he was there 10 months, and had left about a fortnight, as he wanted a change, it being a hard-working, early morning house—I called at the Black Bull—Miller was behind the counter—I asked him if he was Miller—he said, "I am"—I told him Hay wood had applied for a situation, and I had come for his reference—he said he found him a hard-working, honest chap—I asked the reason for his leaving—he said he wanted a change, as it was hard work there, as they opened at 5 a.m., and that he had left about a fortnight—the next day Walker Came to me and remained till the following Friday.

Cross-examined by MR. POCOCK. I discharged him on information from the police—I was paying him 14s. a week—I, as manager, had the power of engaging and discharging.

Cross-examined by MR. PURCELL. I said I had come to inquire about the character of Henry Hay wood—I described him to Miller, and he told me he had been 10 months with him.

GEORGE WILLIAM LAUDER . I am manager at the George Hotel, Balham—on Saturday, June 9th, I saw an advertisement in the paper, to which I replied by telegram, and Walker came—I said, "You have come in answer to the telegram?"—he said, "Yes"—I said, "You have been for some time at the Black Bull according to your advertisement?"—he said, "Yes; nine months with Miller," and that he had left about a fortnight, as he wanted a change—he gave the name of Charles Walker—I said, "I should imagine you have had enough experience for this house; you can start at once," and started him—I told him I would telegraph to Miller, which I did, and prepaid the reply—he stayed there that day, but when I came down next morning at nine he had gone.

Cross-examined by MR. PURCELL. I took him without waiting for a reference, as I was very busy; it is not my habit—Frederick Morgan is the proprietor; he has only got one establishment.

Cross-examined by MR. PURCELL. The reply I received was: "Manager, George Hotel, Balham.—Have no knowledge of such a person.—MILLER."

FREDERICK FASIAN . I am manager at the Gordon Arms, 441, Fulham Road—on June 12th I answered an advertisement, and Walker came—he said he wanted a job as barman—he said he had been at Miller's, the Black Bull, High Street, Borough, for nine months, and had left a week

ago to improve himself—he referred me to Miller, and I went there the same day—Miller is the prisoner, I believe—I asked him if he had had a barman named John Walker—he said, "Yes"—I asked him how long he had been there—he said, "Eight or nine months"—I asked him if he was honest, sober, and industrious—he said he was—he came to me the next day—on June 25th I drew his attention to an advertisement with reference to some bank-notes—I told him he might go to rest—he came down with a parcel, and said he was going to take his washing home—he went out, and did not return—nothing was owing to him—I did not find any difference in the takings.

Cross-examined by MR. POCOCK. I am manager to H. Knight—Walker was not my servant.

Cross-examined by MR. PURCELL. I had never seen Miller before I went ther, to my knowledge—I talked to him about four minutes—on July 10th I was at Lambeth Police-court, and shown into a room where there were a number of men and boys—I picked out Walker only—afterwards, in the Police-court, I saw a man I believed to be Miller—I had more time to scrutinise him then; his appearance was so different.

Re-examined. Miller was standing behind the bar when I called on him.

PHILIP WILLIS (Police Sergeant, B). On June 30th I arrested Walker at Peckham on a warrant for conspiring, with Miller, to obtain situations by false characters—he said, "I was in Miller's employment for nine months, and left just before April"—I said, "You were not there, because you were at the Havelock, Meeting House Lane, about Christmas time"—he said, "Quite right; don't make it any worse for me than you can help."

Cross-examined by MR. POCOCK. I did not caution him—I told him I was an officer—I had made inquiries at the Havelock.

Cross-examined by MR. PURCELL. Miller has been the landlord of the Black Bull since about October last—he is the licensed proprietor.

ERNEST HAGUE (Police Sergeant, P). I arrested Miller on a warrant at the Black Bull—he said, "I cannot say whether he is the man or not if I didn't see him"—I took him to the station—he said, "That man never worked for me"—Walker said, "No; I never worked for you"—Miller added, "I know him."

Miller, in his defence, on oath, said that he had been the licensed proprietor of the Black Bull since last October; that on April 16th he was at a racecourse, and he never saw Hogg any day in April; that he saw Holt and told him a man named Haywood had been employed there for 10 months; that he was employed there when he took the house over, and had left nearly three weeks, and he deserved the character he gave him; that on June 9th he received a telegram from Lander, of the George Hotel, Balham, as to Walker, and replied that he had no knowledge of any such person; that on June 12th he was at Ascot, and never saw Fabian until he was at Lambeth Police-court, and that when he was placed amongst men and boys there was no one else with a light suit on.

GUILTY .—Two former convictions were proved against Walker for larceny, one on July 24th, 1897, at Southwark, and the other in September, 1894, at Lambeth.— Twelve Months each in the Second Division.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-509
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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509. JOHN DWYER(50) , Robbery, with another person, with violence on Walter Armstrong, and stealing 2s., his money.

WALTER ARMSTRONG . I am a journalist, of 27, Nelson Square—on July 11th, at 12.40, I was in Charlotte Street, and saw the prisoner and another man—I thought he was going to shake hands, but he put his hand in my pocket and took my money and latch-key, and knocked me down—the other man had a bag—he ran—I followed the prisoner, calling, "Police!"—a constable came up at once—I lost 2s. and some coppers, and we picked up 7d.—he sat down, and did not say anything.

Cross-examined by the Prisoner, I was alone' and was within 100 yards of my own door—the public-houses were closed—it was a brutal assault—I am 70 years of age—I was perfectly sober.

ERNEST WHITE (Police Sergeant, 24 M). On July 17th, in the early morning, I was on duty, and heard cries of "Police!"—I went to the spot, and found the prosecutor getting up off the ground, and the prisoner sitting on the kerb—the prosecutor said, "I have been knocked down by two men; that is one of them," and gave him in charge—the prisoner said, "I have been sitting here half an hour, trying to get sober"—at the station he said that two people were round him, trying to pick up his money.

Cross-examined. You were about two yards from the prosecutor.

ROBERT MCGANDY . I am a labourer, of 101, Union Street, Borough—I was in Charlotte Street about 12.40 a.m., and saw three men having a few words—I saw Mr. Armstrong knocked down—he got up and called three times, "Police!"—the prisoner was sitting there; another man stumbled against him—the sergeant and constable came up and lighted a match and picked up the coppers and a pencil and handed them to the old gentleman, who said, "That is the one sitting on the pavement" that was the prisoner; "that is the one who knocked me down"—the other man was knocked down with a portmanteau—when the prisoner was charged he said that he had been sitting there half an hour to get sober, but he was not there a moment.

Cross-examined. I said at the Police-court that I saw three men outside the public-house gambling—I heard money and a key drop on the pavement—I saw you knock the old gentleman down—you were picking up the money before the constable came, and then you sat down—you had 11d. on you, I believe, but I do not know whether it belonged to the old gentleman or not.

The prisoner, in his defence, stated, on oath, that as he had been drinking, that he sat down on a door step and afterwards on the kerb; thai the prosecutor and he knew each other; that two men came up, one of whom had a big portmanteau, and knocked the other down with it; that the police came up, and about 100 people collected, and the prosecutor pointed to him and said, "That is the man," and he said that he had been sitting there half an. hour to get sober, the whole time the row was on; that the prosecutor contradicted himself before the Magistrate, and was told to get out of the witness-box, as they did not know whether he was drunk or not; and that the prosecutor's trousers were torn by the two men who struggled with him.

WALTER ARMSTRONG (Re-examined). The prisoner's statement is a tissue of lies; he is not a friend of mine; I may know him by sight—I

had no friend with me—I had been writing a long article, and wanted to go to bed—I have been three times assaulted in that neighbourhood, but have never been robbed.

Cross-examined. I have only treated you as any other sponger—I have not been in the habit of drinking with you in public-houses.


23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-510
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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510. SAMUEL TYNDALL(22) , Feloniously demanding money with menaces from John Greenbaum.

JOHN GREENBAUM . I am a dealer, of 12, Foster Place, Whitechapel—on June 18th I was in the New Cut with a barrow, with studs and jewellery on it—the prisoner came up in the afternoon and asked me to give him two studs—I gave him two, and he turned back and asked me for another, and then went away—I had packed up to go home between 11 and 12 p.m., and he came up with another man and said, "I want your money; if you do not give me your money we will kill you and take your life"—the other man knocked my legs, and I fell, and the prisoner seized me and put his knee on my private parts, saying, "Give me the money"—the other said, "Won't he give you the money?"—he said, "No"—the prisoner squared up to me—I had blood all over my face, and sent for a policeman, who took one of them—when I got up, my clothes were wet, and so was my hair and my face.

Cross-examined by MR PURCELL. There are a lot of stalls in the New Cut—this was on a Monday—he came first at 6 or 7 o'clock, and another man with him—I did not know him—when he came again he said, "You will have to give me as much as you have in your pocket, or I will kill you and upset your stall"—I think they were both very sober, because a drunken man cannot lay a sober man on the ground.

MICHAEL SIMEON (Interpreted). I am an ice-cream dealer—on June 18th I was going home in the dark, and saw the prisoner in the New Cut—the prisoner had hold of the prosecutor by his throat, and the prosecutor went to the ground, and the prisoner knelt on him—the other one said, "Give me the money"—I ran away.

SAMUEL KRAFTELINGSKI (Interpreted). I am a traveller, of 2, Alaska Place, Whitechapel—on the afternoon of June 18th I was in the New Cut, and saw the prisoner—he went up to a man at a barrow and asked for studs—the man said, "What price?"—the prisoner said, "I want studs without money," and persisted till he got the studs—I saw him again later that night—when the studs were packed up he asked the man for money—he said, "I have not got any money"—he said, "You must," and caught him by his handkerchief and knocked him down, and put his foot on him—I went for a policeman, the other man tried to intercept me, and the prisoner began to assault me—I came away.

Cross-examined. I cannot understand English, and these men spoke English.

WILLIAM CARD (154 L). On June 18th, at 11 p.m., I was in the New Cut—the last witness called me and made me understand that his master was injured—I saw the prisoner and another man going away from the barrow—I caught the prisoner and said, "I shall arrest you for assault"

—he said, "I know nothing about it"—when he was at the station the studs slipped down his trousers legs.

The Prisoner, in his defence, stated on oath, that he knew the prosecutor well by sight, but never spoke to him, and that he only pushed him away because he was making water by his stall, but did not seize him by his necktie. GUILTY . Eight convictions of assault were proved against him.— Twelve Months' Hard Labour.

Before Mr Justice Bigham.

23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-511
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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511. JOHN NEWTON(27) , For the manslaughter of Ella Newton. MESSRS. AVORY, MUIR, and BIRON Prosecuted; and MR. HALL Defended.

SARAH CIDER . I live at 72, Beaufoy Road, Battersea, and occupy half the house with my husband, and the prisoner and his wife the other half—on June 2nd the deceased and I went out in the afternoon, shopping, and returned between 4 and 5—the prisoner was not at home then—he came in between 6 and 7—when we got home the deceased was drunk—when the prisoner came home I saw the deceased go out and meet him—he ordered her indoors, and when I went in they were quarrelling—the prisoner went away about 7.30, and I went in and put the deceased to bed—she was the worse for drink, and dirtied everything she had on—next morning she called me between 7 and 8 to get her a bottle of soda water—she showed me some bruises on her arms and legs and side—on Monday morning the prisoner got up and got the deceased a bottle of medicine—on Monday evening, between 7 and 8, she said she felt queer, and the prisoner said I had better go for a doctor—he did not say anything to me about the bruises—he told me he had hit his wife with a stick, and had broken the stick and burnt it—I saw her every day after that because I looked after her—she could keep nothing down for the first two or three days, but afterwards she could take food—she never went out again after June 2nd—between 4 and 5 p.m. on Saturday, June 9th, I was called by the prisoner, who said that Mrs. Newton was taken queer, and told me to fetch a doctor—she died a few minutes after Dr. Whitehead arrived—when I put her to bed on the 2nd I saw a long, red mark on her right arm, as if the arm was broken.

Cross-examined. I have known her since about February—she drank a good deal—she was generally drunk when the husband returned home—I think she was 28 years old—she had dirtied herself three times before—the prisoner told me he was very sorry, and before she died he seemed very anxious about her, and wished to do all he could for her.

MARY ELLEN BRADBURY . I live at 74, Beaufoy Road, Battersea, which is the next house to the Newtons—I remember the prisoner coming home on June 2nd, about 7 p.m.—I had seen his wife about an hour before that—after he came home I heard him beating his wife with something very hard—she screamed; the beating continued for about 20 minutes.

WILLIAM MILLBANK . I am an odd man at Fremlin's Brewery, where the prisoner was a drayman—I was out with him on his dray on June 2nd—we went to his house; his wife came out and said, "Jack, I have got nothing for your supper; I have been on the couch all the afternoon"—

he said, "Go inside; I can see how you are"—I could see she was under the influence of drink—she went in, and he followed her, and stayed in for about 20 minutes or half an hour—when he came out he was very excited, and on the way back he told me that he had knocked his wife about with a stick, and I said, "What did you do that for?"—he said that the last two months had been the happiest time in his life, as his wife had been sober during that time—I did not see him again till the 9th, when he came and told me that she was dead—I asked him what was the matter, and he said, "Through me knocking her about last Saturday"—he asked me to accompany him home, and on the way he said he would give anything for it not to have happened, and he was very sorry it was done.

Cross-examined. He appeared to be in great distress—he said he would give himself up to the police.

JAMES ANDREWS (Police Sergeant, V). On June 9th, about 7.20 p.m., I went to 72, Beaufoy Road, and found the dead body of Ella Newton—I sent for Dr. Kempster, the divisional surgeon—at 10.40 the same night the prisoner came in—I said to him, "I shall take you into custody for the manslaughter of your wife Ella"—he said, "I expected you would; I have been in the police, and knew you could not charge me with murder, as she lived a week after I assaulted her."

WILLIAM STEPHENS(Detective, E). On June 9th I was present when the prisoner was arrested—I took him to Lavender Hill Police-station—on the way he said, "I am sorry for what has happened: on Saturday last I came home and found her drunk; that is not the first time. She has been a good wife and a bad one. When I found my tea was not ready, and she had messed herself, I gave her a terrible hiding, for which I am sorry. I have stopped at home all the week, and have done all I possibly could for her."

JOHN WINDSOR (Police Sergeant, V). On June 9th I was at 72, Beaufoy Road, where I saw the deceased lying on a bed upstairs in the front room—in the cupboard I found a small stick and two bottles of medicine—this is one of the sticks(Produced)—I saw the prisoner—the stick was then lying on the table—I said, "This is a very serious, matter; I found this stick upstairs"—he said, "That is not the stick I used; that is the stick I made to raise her up in bed"—I said, "That accounts for the rope over her bed"—there was a rope from the ceiling over the bed—on June 15th this other stick(Produced)was handed to me by the deceased's mother—it was fetched from a corner of the room by the prisoner's son, who is three years old.

WILLIAM FREDERICK TERRY . I am a registered medical practitioner, of Wands worth Road—on June 4th, in the evening, I was sent for to 72, Beaufoy Road, where I saw the deceased in bed upstairs—I examined her—she was suffering from a livid discolouration over the back of both thighs and parts of both arms—there was no discolouration over her face or the front of her body; the vital parts had been avoided—the right forearm was fractured—there was no mark indicating what had caused the fracture—there were various wounds and bruises at several points, which afterwards appeared, but were not visible at the time—I asked the prisoner how it had occurred—he said his wife had

been a heavy drinker for a long time; that he had formerly kept a public-house, but had been obliged to give it up on account of her drinking, but since that time she had continued to drink; but recently she had been very good, meaning that she had kept sober; but on the Saturday afternoon he had come home and found her drunk, and the sight so maddened him that he had beaten her with a stick, but in his passion he had forgotten himself and had done more than he meant to do; that he very much regretted what he had done, and that, if she recovered, he would never lay his finger on her again—I attended to her until she died—she was suffering from symptoms which I put down to drinking habits—there was frequent vomiting, which continued for several days—there was great enlargement of the liver—she also developed symptoms of pericarditis, which is frequently induced by drinking—I last saw her alive between 12 and 1 on June 9th—I was present on June 10th at the post-mortem—Dr. Kempster was present part of the time—Dr. Whitehead conducted it—we found evidence of injury to her head—in my opinion she died from syncope, which was caused principally by the disordered condition of the liver, and pericarditis—she had hardly a healthy organ in her body—the kidneys were diseased—I do not think the violence had much to do with her death.

FELIX CHARLES KEMPSTER . I am divisional surgeon to the police—on June 9th I was called by them to 72, Beaufoy Road, and there saw the body of Ella Newton at 10.5 p.m., five hours after death—on the 10th I was present at the post-mortem examination nearly all the time—I saw no signs of pericarditis—there was an absence of lymph—the beating she had received doubtless accelerated her death—the illness, plus the beating, doubtless killed her—there was nothing in the disease from which she was suffering which would account for her death.

Cross-examined. The heart of the woman had been removed when I arrived at the post-mortem—I should not have expected death to have taken place directly after the shock.

DR. TERRY (Re-examined). There was continuous vomiting, and blood was mixed with it.

JOSEPH PEPPER , F.R.C.S. I practise at Wimpole Street—at the request of the Secretary to the Treasury, and of the Coroner, I made a second examination of the body of the deceased on June 17th, in presence of the other doctors—in my opinion she died from syncope, which was due to the diseased condition of the liver and kidneys, the result of chronic alcoholism, and, secondly, from the very serious injuries which she had received—I do not think there is a shadow of doubt that the injuries accelerated her death—I will not say that they were the only cause of death—there were two bones broken in one arm, but caused by two separate blows—there were large bruises and coagulated blood over each fracture—the body was covered with marks—the statement that there were no marks on the front of the body is not true—if the marks I saw were caused by the beating, they would certainly be there on the Monday.

Cross-examined. I should not expect death to occur shortly after the shock; it might be weeks or months afterwards.

By the JURY. It is impossible for me to say how long the deceased

would have lived if she had not been beaten, but she might have lived for years—the liver was normal in weight.

DR. TERRY (Re-examined). I think she might have died at any time—the liver weighed 73 oz. when it was taken out of her body—the average weight is 48 oz. to 50 oz. in a man and a little less in a woman.

The prisoner received a good character.


23rd July 1900
Reference Numbert19000723-512
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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Reference Numbert19000723-513
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MESSRS. AVORY, MUIR, and STEPHENSON Prosecuted, MR. FITCH appeared

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GUILTY . KEEN— Eighteen Months' Hard Labour. SMITH— Six Months' Hard Labour.

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Reference Numbert19000723-514
VerdictsNot Guilty > unknown
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Reference Numbert19000723-515
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence
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MR. MAY Prosecuted.

GEORGE RALPH . I live at 134, Camberwell Road, a common lodging-house—the prisoner lived next door—on July 2nd I was in Westmore-land Road, selling flowers—the prisoner came up, said two words I did not understand, and stabbed me in the eye with a knife—I saw it in his hand wide open—a policeman came and took him into custody—the prisoner put the knife in his pocket—I cannot open my eye—it is bloodshot.

Cross-examined by the Prisoner. I did not strike you—I was sober—you were drunk.

WILLIAM PAGE (L 54). On July 2nd I saw the prosecutor and the prisoner jangling in the Westmoreland Road, about 6.40 p.m.—seeing the prisoner about to strike the prosecutor, I crossed the road, and separated them, and sent the prisoner away—about 20 minutes later he returned to the prosecutor, who was minding a barrow of flowers—I saw the prisoner raise his fist and strike him—they both fell—I pulled the prisoner off the prosecutor, and noticed that the prosecutor was bleeding from a wound under his right eye—I asked him how he came by that—

he said that the prisoner stabbed him—I took the prisoner into custody—he said, "A b——good job; I wish I had done for him"—I searched him at the station—I found this knife in his right-hand trousers pocket—there are blood-stains on it.

Cross-examined. You complained that the prosecutor struck you—that was after I separated you the first time—you said, "This man ought to be locked up"—the prosecutor's hands are crippled; he could not hit—he works for costermongers round Camberwell Gate—I said, "You both have been in the habit of jangling, and you have been jangling all the afternoon; you should summons him to-morrow morning; you had better go away" as you had had too much to drink.

JOHN FREDERICK WILLIAMS . I am a surgeon, practising at 56, Camberwell Road—I saw the prosecutor at the station on the evening of July 2nd—he had a severe contusion under his eye, and the lid was closed—I could scarcely see its condition underneath—there was an incised wound to the malar bone, about 1/2 in. long, and about 1 in. or 3/4 in. below the eye—I think it cut through the vein—it might have been caused by the knife produced—the blow must have been violent, and the contusion caused by the fist.

Prisoner's Defence: The prosecutor asked me for beer; I told him I could not give him any, then he struck me, and was going to strike me again when I defended myself, but I had no intention to hit him with the knife.

GUILTY of unlawfully wounding. Five other convictions were proved against him.— Twelve Months' Hard Labour.

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Reference Numbert19000723-516
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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