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Sessions Paper.








Short-hand Writers to the Court,








Law Booksellers and Publishers.



On the Queen's Commission of



The City of London,





Held on Monday, February 12th, 1900, and following days,

Before the Right Hon. ALFRED JAMES NEWTON, LORD MAYOR of the City of London; the Hon. Sir Edward RIDLEY, one of the Justices of Her Majesty's High Court; Sir REGINALD HANSON, Bart., M.P., LL.D., F.S.A., Alderman of the said City; The Right Hon. Sir CHARLES HALL , K.C.M.G., Q.C., M.P., Recorder of the said City; Sir JOSEPH COCKFIELD DIMSDALE, Knt.; Sir MARCUS SAMUEL, Knt.; WALTER VAUGHAN MORGAN, Esq., and JOHN CHARLES BELL, Esq., other of the Aldermen of the said City; and Sir FORREST FULTON, Knt., Q.C., Common Serjeant of the said City; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and General Gaol Delivery, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.




W. H. C. MAHON, Esq.





A star (*) denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars (**) that they have been more than once in custody—a dagger (†) that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.


OLD COURT.—Monday, February 12th,1900.

Before Mr. Recorder.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-134
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty; Guilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceNo Punishment > sentence respited

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Reference Numbert19000212-2
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(135) WILLIAM JAMES DURRANT (35) , to stealing a postal packet containing a sample bottle of rum; also to stealing, while employed by the Post Office, a post-letter containing a sample box of cachous, the property of the Postmaster-General.— [Pleaded Guilty: See original trial image] Judgment respited.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-136
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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136. WILLIAM JONATHAN KEYS (30) , Feloniously stealing a deed-box and certain valuable securities, the property of Cyril Frederick Harrison Harrison Watson.

MR. CLARKE WILLIAMS Prosecuted, and MR. HUMPHREYS Defended.

CYRIL FREDERICK HARRISON HARRISON WATSON . I live at 80, Addison Gardens, Kensington—I had some means, which I wished to use in business—I answered an advertisement of the prisoner's, and after negotiations with him I entered into an agreement with him, dated April 18th, 1899—I was to be employed by him at a fixed salary of £10 a month, and I was to have a return of the profits, for advancing him £500—it was agreed that this should not make a partnership between us, but I had the right to enter into partnership at the end of five years from April 1st, 1899—my salary was paid down to July, but I have heard nothing of the £500, which I paid to the prisoner by cheque—when I first went there he used to come to the office at 2, Talbot Court, Gracechurch Street—he and I occupied the inner room, and the clerks the outer room—I last saw him at the office on August 25th—I had a good many letters from him after that from District Messenger offices and other places, but no addresses, and generally no date—I could not answer them—I tried to find him a good many times, but failed—I had communications coming to me about dishonoured cheques—the prisoner had a key to the office, and could let himself in when he liked—on September 13th I purchased a japanned deed-box, about 13 in by 9 in.—I kept the key—I put into it two share certificates for 100 East Rand

Extension Mines, and 12 shares in the Mountain Copper Company, my cheque-book, some letters from the prisoner to me, and several private documents of my own—I gave £100 for the Rand shares; they are worth about £200 now; the others are worth about £90—I had my initials painted in white outside the box—I kept it on my desk in my room—there were two keys; I had them both—I left the box at the office on October 14th—when I came on Monday, something was said to me; the box was gone—I have never seen it since; it was nowhere in the office; there were 25 cheques originally in the cheque-book; I had used about eight or nine—this debit note of the cheques was sent me with my pass-book—this blank cheque (No. 62488) was contained on the debit note; the numbers of the notes on the debit note are 62476 to 62500—this piece of a letter (Produced) is the top part of a letter which was written to me by a Mr. Buckland—it was in the deed-box when I lost it—these other cheques were also drawn from my cheque-book, including the numbers on the debit note—they were not filled in when I left them in my box.

Cross-examined. I saw the advertisement on one of the last two days of February—I did not ask for any references—I did not see the books of the business; he said he had not got any—he was carrying on the business of a general merchant, or of a broker—he sold anything and everything, and got a commission on the sale—I went for a month on trial—I invested the £500 at 6 per cent.—shortly after I entered into the agreement I had some money left me—I had nothing to do with proving the will or getting the money—I went to Madeira on May 4th—that was about three months after I entered the service—I was away for three weeks, then I went away for four weeks for my health—I and the business banked at the same bank—the prisoner said he had a private account at the same bank—before I bought the deed-box I used to keep my papers and so forth in a desk in one of the drawers—I expect I left things lying about—I was never short of cheques on my own bank—I never had occasion to ask the defendant to let me use one of his cheques—he never asked me for that accommodation.

MARY ANN CARTER . I live at Keybody Buildings, Bunhill Row, E., and am employed by the caretaker of 2, Talbot Court, Gracechurch Street—I have been there 32 years—I know the prisoner by sight—on the morning of October 16th I cleaned the offices of Keys, Hitch & Co. at about 8.15 a.m.—I dusted a black box there—I went downstairs—I heard the prisoner come in—he went upstairs and let himself into his office with his key—he was there about five minutes—I saw him comedown—I leaned over the bannisters, and saw he had a parcel—he had none when he went in—it was a flat box, wrapped up—I heard it knock against the iron railings, and it sounded like tin—it was about the size of the box which I had seen in the office—I went up to the office and looked round; the box was gone—I had seen the prisoner come there on previous occasions—when the clerks came I made a communication to them.

Cross-examined. I think the prisoner has been at the buildings about two years—there are seventeen offices there—I had seen him there on the Saturday before, the 16th, about 3 o'clock—he was there for 10 or

15 minutes—I was in Mr. Howell's office, on the same floor—I do not think he was there on the Friday—he came several times at night, when the clerks were all gone—I had seen the tin box on the desk for some time—I dusted it every morning for more than a month—I do not know if the prisoner sometimes brought parcels to the office, or took any away.

By the COURT. I do not know the name of the gentleman I spoke to when the clerks came in the morning.

JAMES PERRIN . I am at the Shoreditch Branch of the London and County Bank—Mr. Watson is one of our customers—this debit note for the cheque-book is in my writing—on September 22nd, 1899, I issued a cheque-book to Mr. Watson containing the numbers on this debit note—Keys, Hitch & Co. also had an account with us, and Keys a private account—Keys, Hitch & Co.'s account was closed on September 15th, 1899—I think they had notice that the account was closed—W. J. Keys' account was closed on October 5th—I know Keys' writing—these three cheques (Produced) are in his writing—they are all dishonoured—they are all dated after the 16th, and all within the numbers on the debit note—this other cheque (Produced) is out of the same book—I cannot say whose writing it is in.

Cross-examined. These two cheques, dated October 28th, for £3 each, are drawn on Keys' private account—this one, dated November 8th, is on Keys, Hitch & Co.'s account—it is not unusual to get a cheque from a cheque-book which has not been issued to the person who draws the cheque; a customer might borrow a cheque from another customer—it could only be a case of borrow or take—this cheque purports to be signed by Cyril Harrison Watson—I cannot say whether it is his writing; it is very similar.

C. F. H. WATSON (Re-examined). This cheque, which purports to be signed by me, is not in my writing; it is a pretty good imitation of my signature.

FREDERICK BLYTH (774, City). On November 11th, acting under instructions, I was in the offices at 2, Talbot Court, Gracechurch Street, about 4 p.m.—I heard the prisoner come in—I arrested him, and took him to the station—he said, "I do not think I have ever, during the time I was in the office, seen a deed-box belonging to Mr. Watson; if I could see a calendar I think I could prove I was not in London on that day; I was away, and had a bad attack of the liver"—among other property on him I found this blank cheque and this portion of a letter, with Mr. Watson's name thereon, two jewellers' receipts for diamond rings on November 8th and 9th, and two pawn tickets, showing they were pledged on the 11th—the letter has the address, "37, Anger Road"—on November 13th the prisoner was brought up and charged, and remanded on bail—on November 20th he was called on his bail, but did not appear—the bail was estreated, and another warrant issued—I did not take that warrant.

Cross-examined. I found the piece of the letter in his pocket.

JOHN WILLIS (Detective Sergeant). I received the second warrant on November 20th for the prisoner's arrest—I arrested him on December 11th, shortly after 6 p.m., in Trafalgar Square—I said, "You know me; I shall arrest you for absconding from your bail on a charge of felony"—he replied, "All right"—I took him to the Minories Police-station, where

he made no reply to the charge—on the way to the station he became very violent, and it was with great difficulty we got him there.

EDWARD KEBBLE . I am a cashier at the London and County Bank, Shoreditch branch—I know Keys as one of our customers—this cheque for £20 was presented to me; I cannot say who by—I paid cash for it over the counter.


12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-137
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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The prisoner received a good character.—Twelve Months' Hard Labour.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-138
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138. ALFRED LUSSON (37) , Unlawfully obtaining credit from James Stratton Thompson to the amount of £796 17s. 6d. without informing him that he was an undischarged bankrupt.

MR. JOHNSON Prosecuted, and MR. GRAIN Defended.

GEORGE ENGLISH BOYLE . I am a messenger at the Record Office at the London Bankruptcy Court, and produce the file of proceedings in the bankruptcy of Alfred Lusson—the petition was presented on March 17th, 1896—the order of adjudication is dated June 10th, 1896—the liabilities were shown to be £140 10s. 4d., assets nil—he has never applied for his discharge, and is at present an undischarged bankrupt.

Cross-examined. There is a report by the Official Receiver that there is a sufficient sum in hand to pay 20s. in the £—the total amount is £288 8s. 4d.

HENRY OTT . I live at Fairhome, Bushey Hill Road, Camberwell, and am clerk to Messrs. Windover, Turril & Son, of Long Acre, the petitioning creditors in the bankruptcy of Alfred Lusson in 1896—the prisoner is the man.

JAMES STRATTON THOMPSON . On December 15th I traded with a partner, now I trade by myself as Thompson & Co., at 7, Copthall Court—a Mr. Albert Golden has a desk in my office—on December 15th he came to me and instructed me to buy 50 Lake View Consols for Alfred Lusson; the amount given was £796 17s. 6d.—there was a commission of £6 58., and the stamps and charges were £4 3s. 6d.—a contract note was sent to the prisoner the same evening—next day I had instructions from Mr. Golden to sell 100 shares—I declined to sell more than 50—I sold 50 at 1411-16ths, which came to £734 6s. 6d., leaving a balance of £68 17s.—I sent him a contract note the same evening—I never got an answer to that—there was, I think, a letter sent on December 29th, another on December 22nd, and a telegram on June 2nd—I have never been paid to this day—I went to my solicitors, and discovered that the prisoner was an undischarged bankrupt—I did not know that till December 22nd.

Cross-examined. I was responsible for what I bought—Mr. Goldon brought me the orders, and I carried out the transactions.

ALBERT GOLDEN I am a commission agent, and have a seat in the office of Messrs. Thompson & Co. 7, Copthall Court—I first met

the accused in 1891—I was introduced to him again by a Mr. Daniel Boyd on December 12th last, and on December 15th he gave me instructions to buy some shares for him—I passed on the order to Mr. Thompson—the shares were purchased, and on December 16 th I got a letter from the accused, begging me to sell 100 of the same shares, and Mr. Thompson sold 50—I know that two letters were sent to him, and I called at the Hotel Metropole to ask him to pay the difference—I first learned that he was an undischarged bankrupt on December 22nd.

Cross-examined. I dined with the prisoner and his wife at the Hotel Metropole on either the night before or the night after my transaction with him—I think it was the night before, but I should not like to take my oath on it—I have not seen him constantly since 1891; only on a few occasions—I do not know what nationality he is; he calls himself Baron de Lussan—when I first knew him he called himself Alfred Baker—I did not know that the Alfred Baker whom I knew in 1891 had become bankrupt—I had not seen him for eight or nine years prior to December 22nd—no business matters were discussed at the dinner at the Metropole—I did not advise him to enter into this transaction—his wife did not say he could not, because he was an undischarged bankrupt—Mr. Boyd was a customer of Mr. Thompson's—the last time I saw the prisoner prior to the day when I had dinner with him was the Tuesday in the same week—I thought I knew him then as the person I had known in 1891 as Baker, and I told him so—from 1892 to 1899 I never clapped eyes on him, either in or out of the City—I did not make inquiries about him at Stubbs's, but on December 15th, when he had given the order, Messrs. Thompson wrote to Messrs. Stubbs—I did not tell the prisoner that the transaction was an excellent speculation, because Ladysmith had been relieved—he might have spoken on the war topic—I did not advise him at all.

Re-examined. When I was introduced to Baron de Lussan I was given this card—(Read: "Baron de Lussan, Woodcroft Castle, Market Deeping, Northampton shire")—on December 12th I went with another gentleman to the Hotel Metropole by appointment to meet Mr. Daniel Boyd and the defendant at 9 p.m.—on arrival there Mr. Boyd introduced the Baron de Lussan to the other gentleman, and he then turned round and said, "I need not introduce you to Mr. Golden, as he says he has met you before"—the prisoner looked surprised—I said, "I think I met you some eight or nine years ago in a wine merchant's office; is not your name Baker?"—he said "No"—I apologised, and he handed me his card—on going down to the smoking-room I said to Boyd, "I fear I have made a mistake"—the prisoner said, "Yes, he has taken me for a half-brother by the same mother by a different father: that individual has already cost me, £1,500 by mistakes"—I had not the slightest reason or ground for suspecting that he was an undischarged bankrupt—I know that Mr. Thompson sent for particulars to Stubbs, which arrived on December 22nd.

By the COURT. I did not know that Baker had been bankrupt.

The prisoner, in his defence, on oath, said that Mr. Golden knew perfectly well that he was an undischarged bankrupt, and had asked him (the prisoner) if he had applied for his discharge; and that Golden had advised

him to invest in some shares when dining at the Metropole; he admitted that he had been made bankrupt three times.

MR. ALBERT GOLDEN (Re-examined). I never had a conversation (with the prisoner) on a street refuge outside the Royal Exchange on the subject of his bankruptcy.

Evidence for the Defence.

EMMA ELIZABETH LUSSON . I am the prisoner's wife—I was present at the dinner at the Metropole on December 14th—Mr. Golden said that he had seen a telegram from the War Office at the Stock Exchange, saying that Ladysmith had been relieved, and that it was a good time to do business—I said I objected to my husband speculating, as his means did not allow of it—Mr. Golden said, "It is simply a flutter, and will be all right; I know your husband; I have met him before"—I said, "How long have you known my husband?"—he said, "I should be sorry to say how long"—I had never met him before.

Cross-examined. I was married on March 11th, 1896.

GUILTY Three Months' Hard Labour.

NEW COURT.—Monday, February 12th, 1900.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-139
VerdictsGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentencesImprisonment > penal servitude

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JOSEPH DEMPSEY . I keep the Old Duncan public-house, Soho—I was in the bar last Wednesday—the prisoner came in and tendered this 5s. piece for a glass of beer, which came to 1d.—I found it was bad—here are my teeth marks on it—I asked him where he got it; he said from his employer—I asked him where his employer was—he said, "I don't know"—I said, "Where does he live?"—he gave me no answer—I tried to break the coin, but it was too hard—I gave it back to him, and said, "Mark my words, if you take the change for that you are liable to be prosecuted"—I saw him next morning among several others, and picked him out at once—I have no doubt that he is the man.

BEATRICE SHOFORD . I am 13 years old, and am the daughter of the landlord of the, Admiral Dunn, only a few steps from the Old Duncan—on January 24th the prisoner called for a glass of ginger

beer, price 1d.—he gave me a 5s. piece, and I gave him 4s. 11d. change—I had seen him before more than once—I took the coin to my father—I saw the prisoner next morning at Marlborough Street Station with others, and at once identified him.

CHARLES SHOFORD . I keep the Crown—the last witness is my daughter—I know the prisoner as using my house—on January 24th I saw my daughter serve him—he drank the ginger beer in a hurry—my daughter gave me this crown piece—I saw it was a wrong one, and I went outside, but did not see the prisoner—I informed the police, and about two hours afterwards I went into the Round House with a constable, saw the prisoner and said, "That is the man"—he said at the Police-station that he had not been into my house at all.

GEORGE WESTON (Policeman, T). I was sent for to the Round House public-house, saw the prisoner, and said, "I shall take you in custody for passing a bad crown piece"—be said, "It is all false; I have not been in the house to-night"—he was charged, and made no reply.

WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER . I am Inspector of coin to Her Majesty's Mint—this crown is counterfeit.

The prisoner, in his statement before the Magistrate, and in his defence, stated that he was drunk, and knew nothing about it, or about Mr. Dempsey cautioning him.

GUILTY .— He had been convicted in August, 1898, of stealing a watch from the person.—Eighteen Months' Hard Labour.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-143
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence
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LENNARD LEDGROVE . I live at Lower Clapton, and am errand boy to a stockbroker—on January 22nd a little after 1 o'clock, I was in Warnford Court, on an errand for my employers and met the prisoner at the Throgmorton Street end—he asked if I was in a hurry—I said, "No"—he said, "Do you know the Bank?"—I said "Yes"—he gave me this paper (Produced) and said, that I was to take it to the drawing office of the Bank and get a cheque-book, and not give them the paper unless they asked for it—he said, "Bring the cheque-book to me here"—he did not offer me any money—I went to the private drawing office, of the Bank of England, and presented the slip—the gentleman said, "How many cheques?"—I said, "I don't know"—I did not get a cheque-book—I had some conversation with a gentleman, and went with him to Threadneedle Street, where Inspector Fagan joined us—I went up Warnford Court, and met the prisoner there—he mumbled something which I could not catch, and I said, "Are you the gentleman who sent me to the Bank?"—he made no reply, and I turned to the inspector and said,

"This is the man"—he wore a black felt hat and a dark coat—I identify his face, and have no doubt he is the man.

Cross-examined. It is a good-sized court, and a great many clerks go in and out to get their lunch—I was away 20 minutes or half an hour—it takes about seven minutes to go from Warnford Court to the Bank—I am certain that the prisoner is the man—a great many men were passing at the time—I said, "Are you the gentleman who gave me the slip?" because that end of the court is rather dark, but afterwards I was certain—his face made me certain—he went straight on in the same way when I spoke to him.

ALLEN CHISHOLM SWINTON . I am a clerk in the private drawing office of the Bank of England—Messrs. Farnfield, solicitors, of 99, Lower Thames Street, have an account there—on January 22nd, at a little after 2 o'clock, Ledgrove brought this slip of paper—I noticed that there was no number on it, and communicated with Mr. Partridge, and told the boy to come round—I questioned him about it, and asked him to come out with me—he went into Warnford Court—the Bank of England have no order forms or cheques; you must send a letter.

RICHARD WAYGOOD SWARBRIDGE . I am in the private drawing office of the Bank of England—on January 22nd I interviewed the boy, and went with him to Warnford Court—Inspector Sayer was with us—we did not see the prisoner, and I said to the boy, "Just walk down," and when he had got half-way down I saw him stop and speak to the prisoner, who was detained.

Cross-examined. We walked about Warnford Court two minutes before the boy saw him—I saw a great many people passing—the prisoner spoke to the boy, who then said, "I believe that is the man"—I have no doubt the prisoner saw the boy speak to me.

HERBERT EDWARD FARNFIELD . I am a solicitor, of 99, Lower Thames Street, and am a partner in the firm of J. A. and E. Farnfield—we have a private account at the Bank of England—the prisoner came into our employment as a boy five or six years ago, and we promoted him to be a junior clerk; he left two years ago, or a little more, through irregularity in money matters—the last letter from him was in 1898, stating why he left on Saturday afternoon, discharging himself, and explaining why he did not return—I did not give him authority to present this order at the Bank of England—it is not my writing or my brother's or that of anybody in our employment—the practice is to send a letter on our printed note-paper, "Please send so many cheques," and sign it—I believe this order is in his writing—this delivery book is in his writing, and was initialed by him when he kept it—here is the name of the action, the particulars, and his initials—the whole of this book was in his writing then.

Cross-examined. We keep about ten clerks—most of them stop.

JOHN ALBERT FARNFIELD . I am a partner of the last witness—this slip of paper is not in my writing, nor did I give anybody authority to write it—I was laid up with neuralgia for several weeks.

ROBERT SAGER (City Police Inspector). I arrested the prisoner on January 22nd, and found this document on him and this sealed envelope—I asked him if he wanted the letter delivered—he said, "No; it does

not matter now"—it takes five minutes at the outside to get from Warnford Court to the Bank of England—he asked at the station to see the slip—he did so, and said, "That is not my writing."

Cross-examined. He went quite quietly with me.

THOMAS HENRY GUERRIN . I am an expert in hand-writing—I have compared these documents, and have no doubt that this slip was written by the same person who wrote this letter and these two envelopes.

By the COURT. I have not compared it with the book(Doing so)—the capital "E" in the initials, "E.K." in the book is similar to the "E" in "E. C." on the slip, and the whole of the writing is similar—it seems to be the natural writing—I made tracings of the figures and of the words "Bank" and "Thames," and "Lane."

Cross-examined. There is a striking similarity between the letter and the slip; the same marked peculiarity—there are a number of "E's" in this book (Pointing out several peculiarities corresponding in both documents).

Re-examined. There is a "M" in this document in Montpellier Road, and another on the slip, and they are marvellously alike.

The prisoner, in his defence, stated, on oath, that he had just come from Baker Street, and never saw the boy till he stopped him in Warnford Court; that it was not true that he gave the boy the slip, and that it was not in his writing.

GUILTY .— Twelve Months Imprisonment in the Second Division.

OLD COURT.—Tuesday, February 13th, 1900.

Before Mr. Recorder.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-145
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SentencesImprisonment > hard labour

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MR. BODKIN, for the Prosecution, offered no evidence. NOT GUILTY .

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-151
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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151. EDWARD FRY(25) , Stealing a necklace and other articles, the property of Nathan Levy.

MR. MOORE Prosecuted, and MR. BURNIE Defended.

NATHAN LEVY . I am a fishmonger, of 38, Stanley Road, Balls Pond—on October 14th there was a burglary at my house, and about £140 worth of things were stolen—I identify these ornaments (Produced) in this box—none of the other property has been recovered—I put the value of the articles recovered at £12 or £14.

HENRY PEARSON (Detective.) On October 15th I arrested the prisoner on another charge—I took him to the station—he put his hat on the floor—I heard something drop—I took his hat up, and I found this box with these scales in it (Produced)—they have not been identified—two gold rings, a bracelet, a pair of earrings, and a silver watch were in his trousers' pocket—I did not know at that time that they were the proceeds of a burglary—I asked him if he could account for having them—he said he was a dealer, and had bought them in Petticoat Lane that morning—this was on Sunday, October 15th—I asked him what part of the Lane—he said, "Just up there, on the side"—I said, "Which side?"—he said, "By the warehouse"—I said, "Do you know the man?"—he said, "No"—he said he had given about £7 for them—I made inquiries in Middlesex Street—I took the jewellery with me, but nobody could identify it—there is only one man there who sells jewellery, and it is not so high-class as this.

Cross-examined. Middlesex Street is a general market on Sundays—Duke Street is about six or seven minutes' walk from Middlesex Street.

Re-examined. The people who sell jewellery there are regular people there—these scales are what receivers generally carry about with them—these are weights for weighing diamonds.

WILLIAM BURCH (Policeman, J). I arrested the prisoner, and read the warrant to him—he said, "You can only charge me with unlawful possession."

Cross-examined. The warrant charged him with stealing.

The Prisoner, in his defence, on oath, stated that he had bought the jewellery from a man in Petticoat Lane for£7 10s., who asked him to hold the box of scales for him, and that he then went away, and he could not find him.

GUILTY .—He then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction of felony on May 18th, 1895, at Worship Street; and three other convictions were proved against him.— Eighteen Months' Hard Labour.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-152
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > penal servitude; Imprisonment > penal servitude

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152. WILLIAM MILLS, otherwise PHILIP HUNT (28), and GEORGE BROWN(24) , Robbery with violence on Clement Swiss, and stealing from him a watch and the sum of 22s.

MR. PASSMORE Prosecuted.

CLEMENT SWISS (Interpreted). I am a dealer—on January 24th, at 12.40 a.m., I was going along St. George's Street, Ratcliff Highway—the two prisoners, from behind, caught me by the neck, brought me to the ground, and took from me a watch and some money—after they had taken my money they nearly strangled me—I was shouting for help—I am quite sure they are the men.

Cross-examined by Mills. When I was at the station the inspector asked me to search for the money in my overcoat—I found 6d. and some coppers.

Cross-examined by Brown. I saw your faces during the struggle.

RICHARD BROAD (267H). At 12.40 a.m. on January 24th I was in Ratcliff Highway—I saw three men and the prosecutor—I thought they were all friendly, but all at once they all fell to the ground—I ran up and got within five or six yards before they saw me—the prisoners were on top of the prosecutor, and had him by the throat—he was gurgling as if he could hardly breathe—I ran after the prisoners and caught Mills—I blew my whistle, and a soldier who was with me ran after one of them and caught him—the third got away.

Cross-examined by Mills. You were running away when I caught you—you had a bandage on your neck—you said, "You would not take me so easy if I had not got a bad arm."

Cross-examined by Brown. I heard the prosecutor making a gurgling noise—I did not hear him shout.

JAMES ANGUS . I am a reservist in the Grenadier Guards—I was in Ratcliff Highway on January 24th with the last witness—I saw three fellows—we were about 30 yards up the street—they had another man on the ground—he was trying to shout for help—the policeman went up to them, and I followed—they scattered, and ran away—the policeman caught one, and shouted to me to catch the other—he blew his whistle, and another policeman came up—Brown knocked me down, but I caught him—I did not lose sight of him.

Cross-examined by Brown. I heard the prosecutor shouting, but no words—it was a kind of gurgling sound—I did not see the policeman knock you about—you were very violent on the way to the station.

R. BROAD (Re-examined). Brown was not knocked about unnecessarily—he was very violent on the way to the station—it took five of us, to take him.

Cross-examined by Brown. We did not knock you about.

ARTHUR GOLDING (301H). I took Brown—he was running away through St. George's Street—Angus was pursuing him with several other people—I attempted to stop him—he knocked me down—then I knocked him down—he got up and ran away—I ran after him and caught him—he said, "I am running after the other man"—I said, "You have got to come back with me"—the prosecutor said he had been robbed—6 1/2 d. in bronze was found on Brown and a pawn ticket—I did not see any of the scuffling.

Cross-examined by Brown. You were very violent on the way to the

station—you were not knocked about—the inspector put a bottle of smelling salts to your nose, because you were pretending to be drunk.

Mills, in a written defence, said that he was going along St. George's Street with Mills, that they saw some men standing together, that he saw a man fall, and as he crossed over a policeman came up and got hold of him.

Brown, in his defence, said that as they walked up the road they saw three or four men in the road, that they crossed over, and a constable came and seized hold of him.

GUILTY . They then PLEADED GUILTY to convictions of felony: Mills on September 6th, 1898, at Newington Sessions, and Brown, at this Court, on November 21st, 1898; six other convictions were proved against Brown, including one for robbery with violence, and four against Mills. MILLS— Five Years' Penal Servitude. BROWN— Four Years' Penal Servitude.

The COURT awarded Angus£2 for his assistance.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-153
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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153. HENRY GEORGE ENGLAND(16), SIDNEY GILL(17), and ARTHUR SANDERSON(16) , Robbery with violence on Albert Edward Warren, and stealing from his person part of a watch chain and 15s., his property.

MR. CONDY Prosecuted.

ALFRED EDWARD WARREN . I am a messenger boy, aged 13—on Sunday, January 21st, about 5.40, I was in Curtain Road, Shoreditch—I saw about 14 boys coming down the road—I saw their faces, but the three prisoners are the only ones I can recognise—England was one of two who came behind me—he said, "Out with his watch"—Gill helped to hold me down, and Sanderson snatched my chain—I lost all of it except the hook and bar and a three-penny piece which was on it—they were round me for about a minute—as soon as they took the chain they ran round Norfolk Gardens—I went along Curtain Road, and told a policeman—I went to Norfolk Gardens, and the policeman came down with England, and said, "Is that one of them?"—I said, "Yes, that is the one who came behind me"—I went with them to the station—on the way England said to some boy, "Have not I been with you all the evening?" and the boy said, "You are a b—liar"—I had not seen England before I was assaulted—I saw Gill at the station on the 24th—I knew him, because I went to school with him—I gave his name to the detective, who knew him—I saw Sanderson on the 25th, in custody—I was asked to identify him, and I picked him out—I did not know him before.

Cross-examined by England. I picked you out by your white handkerchief and by your face.

Cross-examined by Gill. I did not mention your name till Detective Pryd did—I told Pryd I knew one of the boys, and he said, "Was Gill one of them?" and I said, "Yes."

Cross-examined by Sanderson. I do not think I accused you by mistake for Gill.

Re-examined. I pointed England out about 10 minutes after I had been assaulted.

ARTHUR STANTON (417G). The prosecutor came to me about 6 o'clock on January 21st in Great Eastern Street, not many yards from Curtain Road—we went and searched for the prisoners—I saw England peeping

round some buildings—I went towards him, and he ran away—I followed him—he went into a house—it was not his own house—I went in—he said, "I do not live here; I live in Ivy Lane; I did sot do it; I know nothing about it"—I had not said anything to him then—I brought him out, and said to the prosecutor, "Is this one of them?"—before I could get the question out, the prosecutor said, "That is the one that took hold of me from behind"—England said, "I did not; ask him," and he pointed to another young man in the road, and he said to the man, "You saw me; you know I was with you the whole evening"—the man said, "You are a b—liar."

Cross-examined by England. I did not see you gambling on the roof of the house into which you ran.

GEORGE PRYD (Detective G). I went to 7, Norfolk Gardens about 6.20 a.m. on January 22nd—that is Gill's house—I found him in bed—be said, "All right, Mr. Pryd, I know what you have come for; you have come about that job on Sunday night"—I told him I should arrest him for stealing a chain—he said, "You have come about that job on Sunday night; I was not there; the others threw the chain away"—only part of the chain was found—when he said, "I know what you have come about," I had not said anything about the charge—I saw the prosecutor on the 21st—I did not ask him if one of the boys was Gill—he said, "I know one of them; it is Gill"—he gave me a description of Sanderson, and I arrested him.

Cross-examined by Gill When I got to your house I did not say, "Halloa, young Gill, you know what I have come for."

Cross-examined by Sanderson. You were not arrested before because we did not know where you were at work.

RANDALL HODSON (Detective-Sergeant). I arrested Sanderson on January 25th about 11.30—he was in Milton Street—I told him I was going to take him into custody—he said he could prove that he was at home at the time—I took him to Hoxton Police-station, where he was placed with other lads, and he was at once identified by the prosecutor—Pryd spoke to me about him.

England, in his statement before the Magistrate, and in his defence, said that a boy had told him he had got the blame for the robbery; that he left home about 4.15, and went into a coffee shop in Hoxton Street, where he stayed till about 6 o'clock, when he went to Norfolk Gardens, where a policeman came and arrested him. Gill, in his statement before the Magistrate, and in his defence, said that England told him that he had done it, and said that he was at home all the afternoon, and did not go out till nearly 8 o'clock. Sanderson, in his defence, said that he went home about 3.30, and had some dinner, and then laid down on the bed and slept, and did not go out till 8.30 with his father; that he went over to his father's club, where he stayed till 10 o'clock.

Evidence for the Defence.

SIDNEY GILL . I am a shoemaker, and am Gill's father—on this Sunday afternoon he was at home from 5 to 8—he was trying to put on an indiarubber collar.

ARTHUR SANDERSON . I am Sanderson's father, and am a packing case maker—on this Sunday I got home about 3, and the boy came in shortly

afterwards, and after dinner he went into the other room, and laid down—I saw him there in the afternoon, and till 7 o'clock, when he came over to the club with me and my wife

Cross-examined. He was lying down in the back room on the first floor—he did not undress—I went into the room two or three times while he was there.


NEW COURT.—Tuesday, February 13th, 1900.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-154
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156. FREDERICK DEEDS(30) , Maliciously wounding Beatrice Deeds, with intent to do her grievous bodily harm.

M. LE MAISTRE Prosecuted.

BEATRICE DEEDS . I am the prisoner's wife—I live at 11, Stephen Street—on January 4th, about 3.30, I was keeling at the fire making cocoa—my husband was behind me—I felt a blow on the head—I turned and saw him with a curtain pole in his hand—he hit me again on my head—I got to the door—I went downstairs and called out that he had hit me on the head—I was taken to the hospital—I had told him I was going to leave him to get work—he agreed, but did not like my sleeping out—we had had no quarrel—I had only been with him three weeks—we have been married nearly five years—I left him after three months, to go to service.

Cross-examined by the Prisoner. You were in bed on and off, but not for a fortnight—previous to this you were in bed two days—the day before the assault you asked me to fetch a doctor.

MARIE AUGUSTINE . I am landlady of 11, Stephen Street—the prisoner and his wife lived in the house three weeks—on January 4th, about 3.30, I was downstairs in the kitchen—Mrs. Deeds came down, and said, "Madam! madam! he is murdering me!"—a neighbour washed her head, and I sent for the police—I asked Deeds what was the matter—he "went" for me and one of the lodgers, and said if I did not leave his room he would kill me—I came down—Mrs. Deeds was taken to Middlesex Hospital—the prisoner complained sometimes of headache.

EDWARD PROTHEROE SMITH . I am house surgeon at Middlesex. Hospital—Mrs. Deeds was brought in on January 4th, suffering from three big wounds on the scalp, a small wound behind her right ear, and a big bruise, a bruise over her left eye and cheek, and five bruises down her right arm—great violence must have been used—she continued in the hospital a month—she still attends, and may be weak for a bit—she complains of headache—that may pass away in time.

EDWARD BYRNE (45DR). About 3.30 on January 4th I was called to 11, Stephen Street—in consequence of something communicated to me I arrested the prisoner—his wife was in the passage near the parlour door—there was blood about her—I produce this curtain pole—I charged the prisoner—he said, "I did it under great provocation."

BEATRICE DEEDS (Re-examined). My husband complained of sickness; he could not eat—I went to his brother, who said I was to give him a little brandy—I could not fetch a doctor; I had not the means, and he was able to walk.

The prisoner, in his defence, sated that he suffered from influenza, could not keep hit work, and that he would not have done this in his senses.

GUILTY .—He then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction of felony at Clerkenwell in September, 1897, and another conviction was proved against him. He had 272 days to serve of his previous sentence.— Seven Years' Penal Servitude.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-157
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > penal servitude; Imprisonment > hard labour

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157. THOMAS WHITE (23) and GEORGE DRAKE otherwise WILLIAM JENKINS (20) , Feloniously assaulting George Hendry, with intent to rob him.

MR. CORSER Prosecuted, and MR. GEOGHEGAN Defended Drake.

HENRY TAYLOR (189K). About 1.5 a.m. on January 26th I was on duty in the Commercial Road, Limehouse—I saw three men struggling in the footway, about 80 yards off—I went towards them, and then ran through Douglas Passage, and met the prisoners—I stopped them, and said, "What are you running away for?"—White said "I want to make haste home"—Drake said, "A man has been knocking me about"—I took them back to where the struggle was—a cap was lying in the road—Drake stopped as if to pick it up, but twisted and got away—White was violent, but a private individual assisted me—I blew my whistle—I got him to the station—when the charge was read over he made no reply—about 10 the same evening I found Drake near Stepney Station—he is known to the police as Arthur Jenkins—I crossed the road and said, "I am going to take you into custody for being concerned in assaulting a man named Hendry, with intent to rob him"—he said, "Is that all? don't you want me for deserting as well?"—I took him to the station—when the charge was read over he said, "I don't know White; I don't know who you mean"—I have known Drake four or five years—I knew him by the marks on his face.

Cross-examined by White. You were charged with frequenting the Commercial Road with intent to rob—there were two charges—I lost sight of you, but I know you too well to make a mistake.

Cross-examined by MR. GEOGHEGAN. I arrested the prisoners about 100 yards from the place of assault—I said at the Police-court that I was within 14 to 20 yards of them—I saw Drake's face about a minute before I arrested him—I go by the distance they ran—I heard no cries of "Police!"—the prisoners were running side by side—I did not say to Drake, "Come up to the top of Lovell Street with me"—I said, "We will come back and see this man"—I did not say I would take White to the station and tell Drake to go away; I was asked that question at the Police-court—Stepney-station, where I arrested Drake, is three-quarters

of a mile from the passage where I met the prisoners—I was in plain clothes when I crossed the road to arrest Drake—he had a bran new cap on—I knew the name of the man who was assaulted from his daughter, who met us.

Re-examined. I said to Drake, "That is the man's cap I had seen in the struggle."

GEORGE HENDRY . I am a coppersmith and brass founder—on January 26th I was in the Commercial Road, going home—I was attacked by two men about 1 o'clock—they knocked me down suddenly, and in the struggle I got knocked about—they ran away—the struggle lasted a few seconds—I was knocked about the face and mouth, and had a slight cut at the back of my head from a kick or a blow.

Cross-examined by MR. GEOGHEGAN. I did not go to the Police-station the same morning—I did not lose anything—I sent for a doctor—I was laid up five or six days—I said at the Police-court, "I had a slight cut at the back of my head," nothing about my hand.

ERNEST GOFF (Detective, K). On January 25th and 26th I watched the prisoners from 10 p.m. till a few minutes before 1 a.m.—they went from one public-house to another.

Cross-examined by White. I did not see you do wrong—I did not see the man assaulted—you were looking in at public-houses.

Cross-examined by MR. GEOGHEGAN. Drake was shamming being drunk about 12.45—two constables spoke to him—White said, "It is all right; it is my mate; I want to get him home"—I saw them go into four public-houses in the three hours—they would go and push the doors open and come out again—they went to and fro over about a quarter of a mile.

Re-examined. The prisoners were sober—I came across to them when the constables spoke to them.

White, in his defence, on oath, said that he had had a few words with Drake and was seeing him home; that he was not identified, and was innocent.

GUILTY .—They then PLEADED GUILTY to previous convictions of felony; White at Clerkenwell in March, 1899, and Drake at the Thames Police-court on March 27th, 1899. Another conviction was proved against White, and he was stated to be an associate of convicted thieves. WHITE— Three Years' Penal Servitude. DRAKE— Twelve Months' Hard Labour.

OLD COURT.—Wednesday, February 14th, 1900.

Before Mr. Justice Ridley.

12th February 1900
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162. CHARLES BENJAMIN (29) , Feloniously wounding Richard Hughes, with intent to murder him.

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RICHARD HUGHES . I am an attendant at the Railway Tavern, Liver-pool Street—the prisoner is a newspaper seller—I know him as a customer—last November I had to turn him out of the tavern for using abusive language—some injury was then done to his head—he resisted being put out—we struggled and fell, and I being the heavier, fell on top of him—one day after that he called out to me," Dick, Dick, what are you going to do in this case?"—I said, "Nothing at all; it is simply your own fault"—he said, "I will have your life"—I said, "Do your best, my boy, do your worst," and then I went away—that was before January 16th—on January 16th I came out of the tavern about 8 o'clock, and was standing on the steps, when I received a blow on my head—I put up my hand, and saw the prisoner run away, saying, "I have got my own back"—I was wearing a peak cap—the blow came on the peak—it was inflicted with a chopper, the handle of which was broken (Produced)—this chopper is not mine, and has nothing to do with the tavern—I went after the prisoner—I was staggered for a moment—he was stopped by a policeman—the prisoner pointed to a scar on his head and said, "This is what he has done"—this is the cap I had on (Produced).

By the JURY. It was the shaft of the axe which struck me—the prisoner came up sideways to me—the head of the chopper was over the top of my cap.

Cross-examined by the prisoner. I did not go in and out of the house making a laughing-stock of you—I did not jeer at you; I did not see you—I am only there at night—I had been there on one morning.

By the COURT. It was this year that he said he would have my life, after he came out of the infirmary.

RICARDO MALCARDO . I am the manager of the Railway Tavern, Liverpool Street—Hughes works there as an attendant—on January 16th, about 7.40, I was standing outside the door—I saw the prisoner—he said to me, "Do you see this mark?"—I said, "It is through your own fault"—he said "I will kill your man to-night"—he was quite sober.

ASAF PETTITT (894, City). On January 16th I saw the prisoner running from the direction of the Railway Tavern—I stopped him—Hughes came up and said, "He is the man who struck me over the head" or "across the head, with an axe"—the prisoner said, "Yes, I wish I had killed you; you see this? you caused that; I mean to have my own back with you"—I took him to the station, where he was charged with attempting to do grievous bodily harm—after the charge was read over to him he said, "I wish I had killed you dead."

The prisoner, in his statement before the Magistrate, and in his defence on oath, said he had been in St. Bartholomew's Hospital with a fractured

skull; that he applied for a summons against Hughes, but could not get it; that he was in a lunatic asylum, and the doctor told him that if he gave way to drink he would go mad; that he was standing outside the Railway Tavern, and the prosecutor jeered at him; that he had been drinking, and had pains in his head; that he saw a barrow passing with the chopper on it, and took it and hit the prosecutor; that he was in a temper, and that he had been through a lot of pain.


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164. WILLIAM CARROLL (22) , Feloniously wounding Alfred Worms, with intent to do him grievous bodily harm.

MR. GRAIN, JUN., Prosecuted, and MR. BURNIE Defended.

ALFRED WORMS . I am a general dealer, of 14, Leather Lane—on January 20th I was in the George public-house—the prisoner came in, and asked me for 2s. which I owed him—he said if he did not have it that night he would have my life—I called him on one side, and tried to convince him that he should have it when I had got it—he came in again, and said, "You know the way I fight"—I said, "Fight fair with your hands"—he said he would have my life—half an hour after that we were turned out of the George, and I went to Baldwin's Gardens, and met Bassett's sister, and Bassett and Carroll both came up with knives in their hands—I received a stab, and he ran after me, stabbing me all the time—this is the handkerchief I was wearing, and this is my coat (Pointing to holes on the back of each shoulder)—I felt the blows more than once—I had not a bar of iron in my hand—no one was with me, and no one with a broken lemonade bottle.

Cross-examined. There was a tussle in the house between us—I was not turned out; I walked out on my own account—they went out, and I went out after him—I am quite sure Carroll had a knife—there is no mistake about that—I did not show my neck to the doctor.

AVERY WYNN DIXON . I am surgeon at St. Bartholomew's Hospital—on January 23rd I examined the prosecutor—he had a wound right through his upper lip—there was nothing to draw my attention to his neck.

JAMES HENRY WEEKS . I live at 11, Verulam Street, Gray's Inn Road—on January 20th I was in Baldwin's Gardens, and saw the prisoner following my uncle, the prosecutor—we followed Carroll and Bassett—Bassett said, "He is the one," and the two closed on him, one on each side, and Bassett struck him on the mouth—I saw nothing in Carroll's hands; I saw his two hands—Worms had nothing in his hands, no bar of iron—I only saw Bassett's sister with Worms.

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strike him, but he had nothing in his hand—I told that to the Magistrate—I have not been spoken to about this case since.

GEORGE BURFORD . I live at 9, Providence Street, and am a van guard—on January 20th, in the evening, I saw the prisoner and Bassett watching the prosecutor up the street—he is my uncle also—he went down a court, and I saw both of them giving him blows—I did not see a knife—the prisoner was in front of him, striking him, and Bassett was at the back of him—my uncle said, "That is the one"—I think that was Bassett, but I am not sure.

Cross-examined. I saw Carroll's hand when he struck him, but did not see anything in it—I saw something glittering in Bassett's hand.

Re-examined. I was about 12 yards off when they were both striking my uncle—when my uncle ran away I ran after him—Bassett was behind him, and Carroll trying to stop him.

ELLEN WORMS . I am the prosecutor's daughter, and live with him at 14, Leather Lane—on January 20th I saw the prisoner and another man coming out of our house—they asked me where my father was—I said, "I don't know."

ALFRED WORMS (Re-examined). The prisoner said in the public-house, "You know how I fight," by which I understand the use of the knife—I said that I would have a fair fight—I said nothing about a knife.

ARTHUR WRAPSON (447E). On January 20th, about 12 o'clock, I was outside the George, and saw the prosecutor, the prisoner, and Bassett ejected—I lost sight of them in Baldwin's Gardens, and turned into Leather Lane, and saw Bassett with blood on his face—I said, "What is your little game?"—he said, "I will serve you the same as I served the others"—I went after him, but he went indoors and escaped—I took the prisoner—he said, "I have not been in Leather Lane to-night," but I had seen him there several times.

Cross-examined. The prosecutor was ejected.

The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate: "I had no knife; all I had was my bare hand."

GUILTY .—He then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction at Clerkenwell in 1897, and thirteen other convictions were proved against him, one of which was for wounding under similar circumstances.— Three Years and a-half in Penal Servitude.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-165
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SentenceNo Punishment > sentence respited

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165. HENRY ALFRED TAYLOR (49) PLEADED GUILTY to unlawfully converting to his own use £1,574 6s. 8d., of which he was trustee.— Judgment respited.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-166
VerdictGuilty > pleaded part guilty
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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166. JOHN COOPER (19) , Feloniously wounding William Blackwood, with intent to do him grievous bodily harm.—The prisoner stated that he was GUILTY of unlawfully wounding, upon which the Jury found that verdict.— Twelve Months' Hard Labour.

OLD COURT.—Thursday, February 15th, 1900.

Before Mr. Recorder.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-167
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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167. EDWARD RANDALL COX (29) , Obtaining goods on credit of John Corby and others within four months of his bankruptcy.

MR. MUIR Prosecuted.

The prisoner stated in the hearing of the JURY that he was Guilty, upon which they found him GUILTY .— Four Months' Imprisonment.

NEW COURT.—Thursday, February 15th,1900.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-168
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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168. ERNEST WILMER (22) , Unlawfully carnally knowing Harriett Honeyball, a girl under 16.

MR. LATHAM offered no evidence.


12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-169
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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169. FRANCIS ABBOTT (23) , Unlawfully carnally knowing, Margaret Charlotte Emily O'Neil, a girl under 16.

GUILTY .— Eighteen Months' Hard Labour.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-170
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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170. JOHN WILLIAM FISH , Stealing a cheque for £25, the property of Frederick Suhr.

MR. PIGGOTT Prosecuted, and MR. CLARK Defended.

FREDERICK SUHR . I am a corn merchant, of 66, Mark Lane, and live at Brighton—on Sunday, January 23rd, I wrote a letter to Mr. Fisher, and posted it on the Monday—it was addressed to "Mrs. Fisher, 26, Gloucester Street, Local"—it was a betting transaction, and this was a statement of how the money was made up—I enclosed a cheque payable to her on the London Joint Stock Bank—I intended to post it in Brighton before I started, but on arriving at London Bridge I found it in my pocket, and posted it, forgetting that it was marked "Local"—I went into the post-office in Mark Lane about it, and they told me that it was almost sure to come back, so I did not stop it till the 25th.

Cross-examined. This envelope is very bad; it might easily be mistaken for "Mr." Fisher—the cheque was signed "Foss & Co. "—there was nothing in the letter to give any information where it came from—I should have given it back to the post—-"Fish" and "Fisher" are very much alike, and he used to live at that address—I made no inquiries till I found the cheque had been paid—I then went to the General Post Office, and they put a detective on, and found it out—I know now that it had been delivered in Gloucester Street—I remember a letter from the bank, stating that the money had been paid, but they did not say who to.

CHARLES GEORGE HEARN . I keep the Dover Castle, Little Surrey Street—I have known the prisoner as a customer two years—on January 22nd, in the evening, he brought me a cheque, and asked what I thought about it—I said, "It must be paid through a bank, and if you like I will pay it through my bank if you will call on Monday," but he called on Sunday—he said that it was drawn "on the double"—I knew him as Fisher, and he signed as Fisher—I paid him on Saturday afternoon—he suggested an accumulator.

Cross-examined. I always found him a straightforward chap—he did not ask me to cash it; he only said, "What do you think of this?"—I had left a message for him to call for it on Saturday—I had been to the bank, and they said that it was all right—they did not know that it had been

stopped—I paid it in on the Tuesday morning—the endorsement was made at my suggestion—I had not cashed cheques for him before.

JOHN WITTING (City Detective Sergeant). I arrested the prisoner on January 30th at the office of Black and White, where he was employed as Fisher, but his correct name is Fish—I said, "I am a police-officer; on January 22nd you cashed a cheque; you went to Mr. Hearn, of the Dover Castle, and cashed a cheque for £25? is that right?"—he said, "My right name is Fish, but I am known as Fisher; the cheque was in this letter; it was brought me by a woman at 29, Gloucester Street, where I used to live; I thought it was for me"—I said, "Then what you told Mr. Hearn about your getting it in betting is not true?"—he said, "No; I put £10 into the bank, and gave Mr. Hearn 10s. for cashing it for me"—the prisoner's wife afterwards gave me this bank-book, in which £10 is inserted on January 29th—there is a Gloucester Street in Waterloo Road, and I have ascertained that he has lived there.

Cross-examined. I have no reason to doubt that it was brought to him by a woman from his old address—he was employed in the name of Fisher; they did not know him as Fish—he bears a very good character—Mr. Hearn told me that the prisoner asked him to cash the cheque.

MR. CLARK submitted that there was no case to go to the JURY, as there were no means by which the prisoner could find out to whom the cheque belonged, even if he had found it in the street, and that, therefore, there was no animus furandi; the prisoner being charged with stealing the cheque only, and not the letter, and charged under the Common Law, not under the Post Office Act.

The COMMON SERJEANT directed a verdict of NOT GUILTY .

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-171
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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171. JOHN WILLIAM FISH was again indicted for feloniously forging and uttering an order for the payment of £25, with intent to defraud.

MR. PIGGOTT offered no evidence.



Before Mr. Recorder.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-172
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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172. THOMAS MALYON (22) and JOHN MALYON (24) , Breaking and entering the shop of John King, and stealing 250 lb. of beef, his property.

MR. HARRISON Prosecuted.

JOHN KING . I am a butcher, of Romford Road, East Ham—no one lives there—on January 20th I locked up the premises, leaving 250lb. of beef there, value £10—I went next morning, and found the shop had been broken into, and missed the beef—there is a farrier's yard next door to my shop—there were marks of blood on my shop parlour window at the back.

HENRY HARE . I am a printer—I worked for Mr. Lucy for about a fortnight in December—on December 26th, at 6 a.m., I harnessed the pony to the barrow, and Lee told me to go to Mr. King's shop—Lee had a bit of a tool with him, with which he wrenched the door open, and went

in, and two bricklayers' carts came up, and the small prisoner asked me where Tom Lee was—I said, "In the butcher's shop"—Lee came round the back way. and John Malyon asked me to get some sacks out, and said, "Take those round to Tom Lee, the back way"—John went with me—we went into the farrier's yard, and Taylor came up and said that somebody wanted me, and John Malyon told me to take the barrow round to the front, and I did so—Thomas Malyon was walking up and down to see if anyone was coming—somebody came to the gateway, and he told John Malyon to fetch the meat from the gate—he fetched it from the window, and then went and got another lot—he told me to put it in the sacks, and said that he was going back to get a joint—we then drove to Gains borough Avenue, Little Ilford, and they there cut up the meat—we then drove to his father's house, Castle Street, Blackfriars—he gave me 12s., and told me to give it to his son—while I was waiting outside I saw Sergeant Patrick.

Cross-examined by John Malyon. I said before that I saw you ride up in a brick-cart—I say that you took a sack away.

HAROLD TAYLOR . I am employed at Godfrey's, a farrier's, in Romford Road—between there and Mr. King's shop there are two shops, one of which is a coffee-shop—on this morning, about 6.30, I saw a barrow go in with three chaps—John Malyon was one—one of them said that they wanted a shoe, but that they would go and get a cup of tea first—one lamp was put out, and the other left burning—I did not examine the pony to see if it wanted shoeing; it was only there a minute—I went into the coffee-shop, and asked John Malyon—he said that they were all right, they were all up in the country, and Richton was a man who had been charged with stealing harness—a good deal of harness has been stolen lately.

THOMAS LEE . I keep the Castle Inn, Holland Street, Blackfriars—just before Christmas Hare brought two pieces of meat and a note from my son Tom—I sent it out to be weighed, and paid him 12s. for it.

HENRY MOON (Police Sergeant, K). On December 21st, about 8.45, I was passing Mr. King's shop, and found the premises had been broken into—I found this iron wedge, which is strong enough to open the door.

WALTER PATRICK (Police Sergeant, H). On December 21st, about 6.30, I passed Mr. King's shop with the inspector—I think there were some crates outside.

LOUIS LUDLOW (Detective Sergeant). On December 21st, about 9.30, I saw John Malyon at Forest Gate—I said, "Some meat has been stolen this morning from a butcher's shop, and I am informed that you were with the van; I want to know all about it"—he said, "There was an old man and a dog on the premises; I know the men well, but do not know where they live"—I paid, "Why wai it you told the lad that it was all right?"—he said he did not know—I saw the other prisoner, and said to him, "I am told you were there when the meat was stolen"—he said, "Yes; I do not know the men"—on January 6th I saw John, and said, "Malyon, I am going to take you in custody for stealing meat from a butcher's shop next to the Rising Sun"—he said, "What do you mean?"—I said, "I am going to take you in custody for breaking into the shop"—he said, "I do not know what you are talking about."

Thomas Malyon, in his defence, stated on oath that he and his brother and four others pulled up at the coffee-shop, and saw a barrow outside with a black pony, and about 10.30 the police came and asked him if he knew the chaps, and he said that he knew one of them, and that they took him in custody.

The RECORDER considered that there was not sufficient corroboration of the accomplice.


Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-173
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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173. FREDERICK RICHARDS (23) and PETER WILLIAM HARE (25) , Stealing a mare and a cart, and other goods, the property of Henry Hazell.

MR. ARTHUR GILL Prosecuted, and MR. PURCELL Defended Hare.

HENRY HAZELL . I live at 33, Aylesbury Street, Walworth, Surrey—I have stabling and a shed attached to my premises—on December 3rd I had a Ralli cart and a roan mare—the cart was in the shed, with a rug, two lamps, a horse-cloth, and a cart cover all in the cart—I keep the harness in the house—at the back of, my premises is a gateway leading into Hyde Park Crescent—the stable door is fastened with a hook, and the gates with a bar inside, fitting into sockets—these were safe at 8.30 p.m. on December 3rd—on December 4th, about 7.10 am., I was called by a neighbour, and found one gate wrenched off the hinges, and the horse and cart gone, with the things in the cart—the value of the lot was £70—I afterwards saw the trap, lamps, cover, and horse-cloth at Forest Gate Police-station—I have not seen the horse since—the horse's mane was pulled over the side—she was clipped "knee high," all but the legs, which were rough—the mane was full—the prisoner Hare lived at No. 37; there is one house between—four houses belong to me—I let No. 37 to Robert Lee, who put Hare in it—I knew Tom Lee, Robert's brother, years ago—I saw him ten days before the robbery—a neighbour next door complained about horse-dung causing a stench—I sent the sanitary inspector into No. 37 about a fortnight before I lost my mare—I saw Richards about that time.

Cross-examined by MR. PURCELL. Hare carries on a provision shop at No. 37—I gave evidence at the Southwark Police-court against two men, Collins and Cooper, who were charged with stealing my horse and cart, and were committed to the South London Sessions.

Re-examined. I knew Collins as a hone dealer about 10 years—he was indicted on another charge.

ELIZABETH WING . I am the wife of George Wing, a porter, of 7, Hyde Park Crescent, Walworth, close to Hazell's and Hare's premises—on December 4th I was up about 5.20 a.m.—at 5.40 I opened the door—my husband was going away early—it was dark—I saw Mr. Hazell's trap standing outside Hare's gate—a man walked along the footpath, passed the back of the trap, stood between the shafts, and arranged something, apparently cushions—he was in his shirt sleeves, and had on a waistcoat and a hard felt hat, and darkish trousers.

Cross-examined by MR. PURCELL. I gave evidence before the Magistrate against Collins and Cooper—I was asked last Friday week, I think, to come here—when last I went to Lambeth I was told I should be

required—I heard Hare say he went to Hazell's gate in his shirt sleeves—I mentioned it before that.

ARTHUR NEIL (Sergeant L). I received information of the robbery at Mr. Hazell's house on December 4th, and made inquiries—I examined the premises, and found the gates had been forced off the hinges, and the stable door had been forced—there were jemmy marks—the doors had been fastened inside, and the gates by a staple and cross-bar—I then went to Hare's house—I saw an old brown pony—I said to Hare, "Is this, your pony"—he said, "Yes"—we had some further conversation—I saw two barrows and a piece of harness on the ground—he pointed that out and made the suggestion that someone had been in his premises—I asked him if he had lost anything—he said, "No," and laughed—on Sunday, December 24th, I went to a house in Essex Road, Shadwell—I saw Mr. McMinns, his son, and others in a stable in his backyard; also the old brown pony that I had seen in Hare's place—on January 10th I went again to Hare's place, at 37, Aylesbury Street—Richards was in custody—it was in consequence of his arrest I went to Shadwell—I said to Hare, "I am going to take you to the station to be detained for inquiries; you recollect the old pony that was in your yard on the morning I came to you about Mr. Hazell's? I find that that pony belonged to Tom Lee, who is wanted for stealing Mr. Hazell's cob and cart, and it is now at his uncle's place at Shadwell"—Hare said, "No; you have made a mistake; that pony I sold at the Elephant Horse Repository; it was a clipped one"—I said, "The one I mean was not clipped, and it belonged to Lee, who left it at your place for two nights"—he said, "No, sir, he did not; I know Tom Lee; I suppose he wants to put me into it; I wish I never knew him; I was with him and Richards in the Queen Anne on the Sunday night before I knew they did it, but I was not in it. His son, Bob Lee, rents the shop of the old man that runs the cab which I am in," meaning the shop he was in—the Queen Anne is a public-house close to Hare's house—later, at the station, I confronted him with his brother, who made a statement—I told him he would be charged—he said, "Yes, Lee did leave his pony there that night, but there were two ponies there when you came; I had nothing to do with selling them"—there were not two in my sight—the stable had no stalls; it was simply an old shed, and the pony was in the yard—if another had been there I must have seen it—I did not go to the back of the shed because the pony was in the yard—I had seen Richards in the neighbourhood previous to this—on January 6th I was present when Hare was charged at Stratford—he said, "I bad nothing to do with stealing it; Lee asked me to take care of the cart for him."

Cross-examined by MR. PURCELL. I was present when Cooper and Collins were seen by Wing, Mortimer, and Cullam among others—Mortimer and Cullam saw two thieves moving away Hazell's cart—Mortimer spoke to them—Cullam picked out Collins as being like the man—he could identify him positively—he said he strongly resembled the man he had seen—Mortimer, the police-officer, who spoke to the thieves, picked out both, and said that he had seen Collins and Cooper about—Collins and Cooper are bad characters in the district—these men were sworn to by Mortimer as the two men he had seen with the horse

and cart—upon that evidence they were committed for trial—then I discovered that Mortimer had made a mistake, and I explained the circumstances to the Clerk of the Court, and I was sworn, and explained it to the Grand Jury—I have given notice that Mortimer is to be a witness here to corroborate young Hare.

HENRY HARE . I live at 83, Mann Street, Walworth—I am the prisoner Hare's brother—in December last I was living with him at 37, Aylesbury Street, Walworth—I have seen Richards—I remember Mr. Hazell's cart being taken on December 4th—I know Thomas Lee, the nephew of Robert Lee, who let my brother the house—Richards and Thomas Lee came to my brother's house on Monday, November 28th—I was sitting in the shop parlour—my brother said, "I have had the sanitary inspector put on me by Hazell, but I intend to have his lot"—Lee said, "I will help you to get it"—my brother said, "So will I"—Richards heard that—on the Friday of that week Richards and Lee came again to my brother's shop with two pony barrows and a brown pony, and a large-size horse-collar—I took them into the yard through the back door—the next day, Saturday, Lee and Richards were sitting downstairs when I came down—they had stopped in the house all night—Lee stopped on the night of the 2nd—they both left on the Saturday, morning, but Lee came back about 11.30 p.m., and so my brother and I passed the night there—Lee was there on the Sunday—the next morning Lee woke me up and my brother at 4—Lee sent me to the top of the street to see if there was anybody coming; then Lee went to the back and opened Mr. Hazell's gates with a bar of iron—he forced them off their hinges, pulled the trap outside Hazell's gates, and then my brother came and pulled it to the outside of our gate—he had on a hard bowler hat and no coat—he put some harness, which Lee fetched, into the cart—Lee and I got the roan mare out—Lee got on the horse's back, and rode down several turnings, and I was told to pull the cart—I was pulling the cart when Constable Mortimer stopped me and Lee round some turning—we pulled the trap where we got it from, then harnessed the horse to the cart, and both got in and drove away to Manor Park—we came back by train—my brother asked me if we got away with it all right—I told him that the constable stopped us—the next day, December 5th, I had a letter, and I took the pony and the two barrows to Lockhart's, at the Tower Bridge, and gave them to Lee—I borrowed some of my brother's harness—I came home to my brother's—on December 6th I went back to Lee's place, at 22, Gainsborough Avenue, Ilford—I saw some lamps, the cart, and the brown mare—Lee told me he had the pony—he was putting a wrapper up, and making a stable of it—Lee cut the mare's mane, and tried to clip its legs, but could not—Richards was in the kitchen—I stopped with Lee till Boxing Day—on December 13th I went to McMinns' house at Shadwell—he is Lee's uncle—Lee filled his cart with whatever he had got, left the cob there, and took the roan mare away—McMinns said he was going to sell his pony at the Cattle Market—Lee took in exchange McMinns' cart, which he wanted to sell—Lee said he would sell the pony at the Cattle Market, and said, "I will lend you this roan mare"—I saw the roan mare at McMinns' afterwards—it remained there three or four days—Richards

took it there—on the Saturday before Christmas Richards took the Ralli cart away from Tom Lee's—I went for a drive on Sunday, December 24th, with McMinns' son, who is a soldier, and Tom Lee—we drove a blue roan mare from McMinns' house—after that I went to a horse dealer at Leytonstone, where the blue roan mare was exchanged for a chestnut cab horse—I drove back with the cab horse—Lee said at Ilford that he had got the Ralli cart at Hazell's—I was spoken to by the police after Richards was in custody—I made a statement.

Cross-examined by MR. PURCFLL. I had lived with my brother before December for two or three months—I had come from 8, Howard Street, Kingsland, where I had lived with my brother a year and two months continuously—before then I had been about the streets—my father would not have anything to do with the lot of us; he left mother—I was charged with stealing a mandoline about four years ago—I am getting on for 17—I was brought before a Magistrate, and allowed out on recognizance to go to Mr. Wheatley's Home—I stopped there six months—I ran away—Mr. Wheatley found me work out of the Home—I went back again after a day, and finished my time—Wheatley's collected my earnings—afterwards I went about selling newspapers—we were pulling the cart for about five minutes—I only know Mrs. Wing by being in Court—Lee gave me 1s. 6d., and I had to give him 8d. back to treat his friends, Because he had no money—the police took me to Rodney Road, and asked me questions—I made two statements—the first was all about the others, barring myself—I did not say in my first statement that my brother had nothing to do with it, nor that he knew nothing about it—there was an interval between the statements—I made a statement before the last remand—Mr. Hazell's son-in-law has been keeping me since—I had a reward for returning stolen harness—I gave the owner information—he gave me half-a-crown—Lee told me he was going for grub, and brought back a sack, which I thought was grub, but when I started to get a nosebag I found it was harness—Lee gave me the 1s. 6d. long after that—when we pulled the trap the policeman asked what was the matter, and where were we going—Lee replied, "We are going to fetch our governor"—we were close together, and he kept holloaing, "Mind she don't kick the front of the trap in; you had better take him home"—we were standing by the policeman.

Re-examined. Last autumn I was working at a printer's at 3, Clerken well Road, till just after my brother took the trap—I was five or six months in that employment—I left because my brother asked me to come and work for him—I did the house work—I was two years old when my father left me.

ROBERT MCMINNS . I am a private soldier in the Hampshire Regiment, stationed at Winchester—on December 24th I was in my father's house at Shadwell—Tom Lee is my cousin—I went for a drive on Christmas Eve with Thomas Lee and Harry Hare—we drove a roan mare to the London Hospital to see Thomas Lee's child—we exchanged the horse at Leytonstone—we went to the house of a man named Jenkins—the roan mare was put into the stable in exchange for a chestnut, and we came back.

FREDERICK MCMINNS . I live at Essex House, Essex Road, Shadwell—I am the father of the last witness—on December 24th Sergeant Neil

came—I had a small brown pony in my stables, supposed to belong to Thomas Lee—it came on December 22nd—there was a roan mare at my premises from December 13th to 24th—it came from Lee's house—it was taken away on December 24th by Lee and young Hare.

LEWIS LIDDELOW (Detective, K). On December 21st I went to 22, Gainsborough Avenue, Ilford, about 11 a.m., where Thomas Lee lived, with Detective McMullen—I saw in the yard a Ralli cart, which I marked—on Saturday, December 23rd, we missed it—I went to a yard at East Ham—I saw the same Ralli cart—it was identified the same night by Hazell.

SARAH ASPREY . I am the wife of Edward Asprey, confectioner, of 94, Parr Road, East Ham—on December 23rd the prisoner Richards brought a Ralli cart and a black horse into our yard—he was a stranger—he said that my husband knew it was coming, but I found he did not—I said to Richards, "You have a swell affair there"—he said he had chopped a cob for it—I was referring to the trap; to the lot, in fact—he said he had given £8 10 s. for the set of harness that was on the horse—he left the car, but took away the horse and the harness.

Cross-examined by Richards. You did not say that there was a cab for it; you went down the road with the horse and the harness, and I next saw the horse in the barrow.

JOSEPH MCMULLEN (Detective, K). On December 23rd I went with Liddelow to Asprey's premises, and took possession of a Ralli cart—I went to 22, Gainsborough Road the next day—I found Richards there—I found in the house two rugs and a pair of lamps, which Mr. Hazell afterwards identified—I gave Richards a piece of paper, and he wrote down this statement: "Trap found at 98, Parr Road, East Ham, and the harness was given to me by Mrs. Lee, as Mr. Lee left word at home for me to look after them in case the pony might break them. I did not know they were stolen, as he told me that he exchangd a cob for it."

LEWIS LIDDELOW (Re-examined). I was with the last witness at Richards' house—in a sack on the landing I found a set of harness except the collar, and two pairs of carriage lamps (one pair in addition to the pair shown to Hazell)—they were shown to Mr. Scrutton, a corn dealer, of Manor Park.

ERNEST SCRUTTON . I am a corn dealer, of 606, Romford Road, Manor Park—I was shown some harness by the police, which I identified—I lost it when my place was broken into on Thursday, December 7th—it was in a shed adjoining the house.

ELIZABETH WING (Re-examined). I do not know Hare—I have only been into his provision shop about twice.

Richards produced a written defense, stating that he was employed by Lee, and told to mind the things, and that he was not guilty.


12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-174
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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Twelve Months' Hard Labour.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-175
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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MR. ARTHUR GILL offered no evidence.



Before Mr. Recorder.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-176
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty; Not Guilty > unknown
SentenceNo Punishment > sentence respited

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176. JAMES EDMONDS(19) and MAUDE EDMONDS , Uttering a notice of withdrawal for the payment of 12s. from the Post Office Savings Bank, with intent to defraud, to which James Edmonds PLEADED GUILTY . He received a good character.— Judgment respited.

MR. ARTHUR GILL Prosecuted.

During Maude Edmonds' trial the Jury, at the suggestion of the RECORDER, stopped the case and returned a verdict of NOT GUILTY .

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-177
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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177. MAUDE EDMONDS was again indicted for feloniously forging and uttering a receipt for the payment of 12s., with intent to defraud.

MR. ARTHUR GILL, for the Prosecution, offered no evidence.


Before Mr. Justice Ridley.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-178
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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178. MATTHEW FREDERICK BLAKE , for the manslaughter of Richard Walsh.


ELIZABETH WALSH . My husband was named Richard Walsh, and we lived together at 46, Wilmount Street, Woolwich—the prisoner is my nephew—his father is my brother—on January 7th I was in the Golden Anchor, Hoskin Street, Greenwich—my husband, my brother, and the prisoner were also there—we were all in the same compartment—my husband was 59 years old—the prisoner began sparring with my husband in a fighting attitude—my husband said, "Freddy, what do you mean? I am only an old man to you"—still the prisoner kept on sparring—my husband did not spar back; he was too good a man to do so—the prisoner struck my husband a very hard blow in his chest—he staggered against the side of the partition—my husband said to me, "We had better be off home"—the prisoner struck him again outside the public-house—my husband fell, and he never moved—his head went on the kerb outside the door—he was stunned—both the blows were on the chest—I screamed very loudly, and the prisoner hit me on my eye, and I had a terrible black eye—I stooped down to take my husband's watch and chain, and the prisoner's sister, my niece, clawed the other side of my face—I got up and ran away—I thought they would serve me the same—I went down the Old Woolwich Road—I saw two boys, and asked them to show me where I could find a policeman—I was away about 1 1/2 hours altogether—I wanted to take my husband home, but they would not let me—he was taken to my brother's house, and they left him lying on the floor, without a candle, or fire, or light, or anything else, and he died the next day—the policemen were very good indeed—they came in and showed their lights on him when he was breathing so hard.

By the COURT. I saw two blows; both on the chest—whatever else was done to him must have been done while he was on the ground.

ALFRED BLAKE . I live at 6, Hoskin Street, Greenwich—I am an under-waterman—the prisoner is my son—on January 7th, at 6.80 p.m., I was in bed—I had been away all that day—I was called up, and went downstairs—I saw the deceased and his wife, who is my sister—my son was there also—he lives with me—the deceased had his coat off, and my sister was going to slip into him about pawning the girl's clothes and watch—the deceased said to me, "Hullo, old boy, how are you getting on? we don't want no quarrels; let us come out and have a drink"—we all went to the Golden Anchor public-house, which is in the same street as my house—the deceased put his coat on before we went out—we had two quarters of whisky between three of us—I was sober, because I had been at work all day—Mrs. Walsh was not sober—she had had a drop when we went into the public-house—the deceased was not sober either—my son was sober—as soon as we got the drink the deceased said, "Here you are, my old branch; success to the Boers; may they beat the British"—I said, "Don't say that; you have got a good pension from the country; what do you want to ran down the country for?"—he said, "To hell with you, and the country too"—my sister said, "Where is Liz?"—I said, "Round the other side," and she said, "Why don't you call her round?"—when my daughter came round my sister called her names—the deceased told his wife to shut her mouth, or else he would shut it for her—then the deceased called me a b—y b—d, and my son said, "Don't call him that; he is not that"—the deceased said, "You! I would swipe you out," and was going to hit him, but my son bobbed on one side, and gave him a back-handed smack, which caught him a kiss in the mouth, and he tumbled and fell—there is a pavement and a kerb—there is a 4 in. rise from the road to the middle of the path—after he fell I put his coat and a cape under his head for a pillow, and then I and my friend got hold of his arm and took him down home—when the deceased and his wife came into the public-house they were not very drunk—they had only had two drinks—after we had carried the deceased home I went and fetched Dr. Magan.

JOHN BEW I am the licensee of the Golden Anchor, Hoskin Street, Greenwich, which is at a corner, the pavement is made of diamond black bricks all round outside—there is no room for traffic in front of the house, and no kerb—there is a side entrance in Hoskin Street, where there is a kerb—the front, which faces the river, has only a pavement—about 7.30 on January 7th the deceased and some other people came into the house—I did not know the deceased before—I knew Alfred Blake and his son, the prisoner—there were four of them, the prisoner and his father, the deceased and his wife—they were all in one compartment—in the next compartment there were two or three of Alfred Blake's daughters and the prisoner's mother—they were all sober when they came in—I served them with two quarters of Irish whisky, two drops of sherry, and two ponys of bitter ale—the sherry and some of the whisky went into the other compartment, not where the deceased was—the two ponys of bitter were served to the prisoner—I heard Mrs. Walsh using abusive language to her brother, and I called her to order about it, and

the deceased said, "They are brother and sister, and, by God, they can say what they like to one another"—I said, "Well, you cannot do it here"—they went on talking again, and I called Mrs. Walsh to order again, and said, "If it occurs again you will have to go out, I won't have it"—just after that Mrs. Blake and one of her daughters came into that compartment, and Mrs. Walsh and Mrs. Blake began talking and quarrelling, and I thought it time to interfere, and I put them out—the deceased was very excited in the house about the Boers, and had a lot of talk about the warfare—he said he would go and fight for the Boers, and exterminate the English—the party was in my house from about 6.30 to 7.40—I did not hear the accused say or do anything—I saw Mrs. Walsh pushing Mrs. Blake while they were in my house, and she hit Mrs. Blake in the face and called her a special term, and then she struck Mrs. Blake's daughter and called her a nice name, and I cleared them all out—about seven or eight minutes after they had gone somebody came and asked me for some whisky, but I would not give them any; I said I would give them water.

DR. MICHAEL MAGAN . I am a registered medical practitioner of la, Marlborough Street, Greenwich—about 10.50 p.m. on January 7th I was called to 6, Hoskin Street, the house of the prisoner's father, where I saw the deceased—he was unconscious—I made a slight examination, and at once came to the conclusion that he was suffering from concussion of the brain, and probably a fractured skull—I suggested his removal to the infirmary—I heard Dr. Forsyth's evidence at the Police-court, describing the post-mortem examination which he made—in my examination I noticed some blood about the mouth and an injury to the inner surface of the lips—I also found a bruise behind the right ear, and I came to the conclusion that some force had caused the fracture to the skull—the lip had obviously been cut by the teeth—the bruise behind the ear might have been caused by a blow from the fist, or by a fall on the ground—I think the latter more probable—the injury to the ear could have been caused by a fall on the glazed bricks.

DR. ALEXANDER FORSYTH . I am the divisional surgeon to this district, and practise at 12, Park Place, Greenwich—I was called at 6.30 a.m., on January 8th, to 6, Hoskin Street—the deceased had not been taken to the infirmary, but was still at the house—he was dead when I arrived—I made a post-mortem examination on the 10th—the signs of injury were more distinct when I first saw him than when I made the post-mortem when death had occurred two days before—at my first examination I found a cut on the inside of the upper lip—it could have been caused by a blow from the fist—I found an effusion of blood under the scalp, a crack in the skull on the right on the outside, extending backwards and upwards for about 5 in.; on the left there was no bleeding outside the skull, but inside the membranes of the brain there was a large clot of blood and bruised brain tissue—that was caused by the counter stroke on the right—the clot on the left side had pressed upon the brain—in my opinion the blow which fractured the skull was the cause of death—I do not think that blow was caused by a fall—it could have been caused by the fist—it would require considerable force to crack the skull of a man of 60, but not so much force as would be required to crack the skull of a younger man.

REGINALD BETTERIDGE (421 R). On January 8th I took the prisoner into custody—I told him I should arrest him for causing the death of his uncle, Richard Walsh—he said, "Yes; he called me a dirty b—d; I struck him, and he fell to the ground; he is a saucy old man when he is in drink"—I took him to the station, where he was charged—he made no reply.

GUILTY Strongly recommended to mercy by the JURY. .— He received a good character.—Three Days' Imprisonment.


Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-179
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceMiscellaneous > sureties

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AMY KING . I am 17 years old—in January I was living at 41, Ironmill Road with my father, who is a carman—he had been drinking a good deal during the Christmas holidays—I remember going to bed on January 2nd, and in the course of the night feeling a cold hand on my neck—it woke me up, but I could not see anybody—then I felt a razor—I saw the handle of it—I do not remember any thing else, because I lost consciousness through the squeeging of my neck, at the same time that I felt the razor—my father slept in the back room—I slept in the

front room—there was nobody else in the house, except some little children who were in another room—my mother is dead—I can just recollect a policeman coming to see me some time after I came to myself—he spoke about strangling, but I cannot remember anything about it—before Christmas there had been a few words between my father and I—I told the policeman that my father had not hurt me at all, because I'did not feel any effects, and I never hare felt any effects of it at all—I did not tell the police about the razor or about losing consciousness, in consequence of the pressure on my neck—I thought I had had a dream, but when the police said my father had been trying to strangle me, I said "Yes; that was the same morning"—my eyes began to get a bit bloodshot on January 3rd, about 8 o'clock—when the doctor saw my eyes on January 9th they were bloodshot—I told him about the strangling—on the Thursday I went over to my Aunt Emily—after the children had gone away, I told her all about it—she came to look after the children, my father not having come back—then I saw Sergeant Brown, and told him what I had told my aunt—I saw a doctor, and then gave my evidence at the Police-court.

Cross-examined by the prisoner. I knew it was a razor by the feel of it, and I could hear you open it.

By the COURT. My father used to have a razor—he gave it up at the Police-court—I could hear it sliding when it made a noise—I do not know whether he took it out of a case or not.

WILLIAM BROWN (54 V). On the early morning of January 3rd the prisoner came to the Police-station where I was in charge—he said he had strangled his daughter and had left her for dead at 41, Ironmill Road, and that some one in the coal cellar had told him to do it—he pointed at the coal cellar door at the station—he appeared to have been drinking and to be suffering from delirium tremens—I sent Police-constable Manley to the address the prisoner had given, and when he returned and I had heard of his inquiries, I deemed the prisoner to be a lunatic, and sent him to Clapham Infirmary, where he remained until January 15th—on January 3rd Amy King came to the station to see what we had done with her father, as he had not gone home—she did not make any statement—she was in a very flurried state—on January 8th I went to her house at Ironmill Road, in consequence of a statement her aunt had made at the station—when I got to the house the girl made a statement to me in her aunt's presence—the doctor saw her on January 9th—in consequence of what the girl told me the prisoner was arrested on leaving the infirmary on January 15th—when he was charged he said he did not remember anything about it—I did not notice anything peculiar about the girl's eyes when she came to the station, but on the 8th they looked very bad—the prisoner had this razor (Produced) in his possession when he came to the station—he had no case with it.

EDWIN COOPER (77V). At 5.30 on January 3rd I went to 41, Ironmill Road, and saw Amy King—I asked her if her father had done any harm to her—she said, "No, I am all right; he has been drunk for about a week"—I sent her upstairs to see the other children—she came down and said they were all right—I examined her neck; there were no marks on it—I went back to the station and told Sergeant Brown.

DR. JOHN TODD THIN . I practise at 238, Earls field Road—I examined the girl on the night of January 3rd—the tissue under the muccus membrane of her eyes was effused with blood—it might have been caused in various ways; pressure on the veins of the neck would cause it—it would require pretty good pressure to block the blood in the jugular veins—the effect of the pressure might not be noticeable at once; it might begin to come the next day or not till later—the appearance of her eyes is quite consistent with what she describes.

By the COURT. She might feel something wrong with her eyes next morning, but still the constable might not be able to see anything—she had been pressed, low down in the throat—one would have expected the larynx to be broken, or some injury to the trachea, but if it was high up I believe a person could be strangled without any mark.

CHARLES LINDSAY BAKER STEARS . I am the Assistant Medical Officer at Claphara Infirmary—I saw King when he was sent to the Infirmary on January 3rd—he appeared to have been drinking, and he had a delusion—he told me that he had endeavoured to strangle his daughter, because the devil had told him to do so—I think he was then under the influence of drink—I did not know then that the daughter had been strangled—I did not see any traces of delirium tremens about him then or while he was at the Infirmary, where he remained till the 15th—the drink gradually wore off under treatment—he has quite recovered, and was discharged—I do not think that he had been suffering from delirium tremens; he seemed to be in a post-alcoholic state—if he had delirium tremens two hours before I saw him, I should certainly expect to see some sign of it; that I did not find—it is my opinion that he was suffering from this delusion because of drunkenness.

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FLORENCE JONES . I live at 16, Spicer Road, Finch Road, Battersea—in December, 1897, I was living with my father and mother at Woolwich—I am single, but on December 17th, 1897, I was confined in a Home at Clapham of a female child—it was named Selina Ellen Jones—the lady in charge of that house recommended a Mrs. Muller to me, and the child was put into her charge till March, 1898, when it was taken from her

and put into the charge of Mrs. Wetherall, of Gee Street, St. Luke's, and I paid her 5s. a week from March to July, 1898, for the care of the child—I went there and visited it, and, as far as I saw, it had good health and flourished under Mrs. Wetherall—in July the father ceased to contribute, and I then paid only half-a-crown a week for it—I saw this advertisement in the Woolwich Herald on August 18th, 1899: "Adoption.—A young married couple would adopt healthy baby; every care and comfort; good references given; very small premium. Write first to Mrs. Hewetson, 4, Bradmore Lane, Hammersmith"—I wrote to the address, saying that I had a child, and asking how much she wanted to adopt it—I got an answer, saying that they wanted it for their own, and wanted £5 down—I answered that, and said that I could pay £3, and sent this photograph (Produced) of the child—it was sent back to me in a subsequent letter—it was taken in 1898, when the child was about nine months old—I asked for an interview, and an appointment was made to meet at Woolwich Station about Thursday, August 24th, a week before the child was handed over—I met the female prisoner at Woolwich, and went with her to my mother's house—mother said we wanted her to take care of it for a certain time, and then have it back again—I made arrangements to see the child once a fortnight, and mother said she would come up and see it presently—the prisoner said that her husband was a clerk in Hammersmith, and I understood her to say that she lived at 4, Bradmore Lane; that was the address in the advertisement—no arrangement was made about the money on that occasion—I said that I should always like to provide it with clothes—I told her I would tell Mrs. Wetherall that I was going to take the child away, and I wrote to the prisoner that she could have it on Tuesday—I made an appointment for the next Thursday after the interview at my mother's, to meet at Charing Cross Station—I then got this letter from the female prisoner; it is the only letter I got—(This stated that they had taken a new house in Hammersmith, and all the neighbours would think the child was their own, and inquiring at what part of Charing Cross Station they were to meet.)—Some days before August 3lst I bought some child's clothes—I took those clothes to Mrs. Wetherall on Thursday, and she handed me over the child that day, and all the clothes which it had been wearing—I took the child to Charing Cross Station, main line, and the clothes—I saw Mrs. Hewetson, as I knew her, at Charing Cross South-Eastern Station, and went with her to Hammersmith by 'bus—we went to the Grove, and stopped at a house there, and she said that that was the house she had taken—it was not occupied, but there were some workmen in it—I then went with her to 2, Southerton Road, Hammersmith—she said that the house belonged to a friend of hers, and told me to say nothing about the child not being hers, but gave me no reason for that—when we got to Southerton Road I was introduced to the friend, Mrs. Woolmer, as her sister-in-law—I had some tea in the house, and paid the prisoner £3, and gave her the bundle of clothes—I had definitely arranged to pay her £5—after tea the child and I and the prisoner came out, and went to Hammersmith Station—I then went home, leaving the child behind with the prisoner—I was to pay the other £2 on the next Sunday—she said that she would write me a letter, and let me know where—she was going to send her husband with the child to meet

me at the station—I got no such letter, and did not know what station to go to—notwithstanding that, I came up to Hammersmith on Sunday, September 3rd, and went to the house in the Grove, and found it was occupied by some other people—I then went to 4, Bradmore Lane, and found it was a newspaper shop—I had a conversation with the proprietor, Mr. Canning, and went to 2, Southerton Road, and saw Mrs. Woolmer—after that I went back to Bradmore Lane, and then went home—next day, September 4th, I went again, and then went to the Police-station and made a complaint, and afterwards to the West London Police-court—the next I heard of my child was a message from the police on the 27th or 28th to go to the mortuary at Battersea—I went there, and saw the dead body of my child—she had curly golden hair—she had been vaccinated on her left arm—she had a peculiar nose and a protruding navel—on September 28th, or later, I was shown a quantity of child's clothing, and recognised this red plaid dress which I gave her when she went to Mrs. Hewetson—it was in the parcel I gave to Mrs. Hawetson; the child was not wearing it—after making it I had this piece over (Produced), which I gave to Detective Gough—this is a coat which my mother bought for the child, and gave to Mrs. Weatherall—I recognise these other clothes as belonging to the child—I gave the first bundle to Mrs. Hewetson on August 31st—this next bundle is a pair of shoes, a pair of brown socks, and a petticoat—I recognise them as part of the child's clothing, but she was not wearing the socks and petticoat on August 31st—they were handed to the prisoner—I recognise these things marked O, P, Q and R in this bundle—they are clothes which belonged to the child—they were handed over on August 31st—this bib marked B was part of the child's clothing.

Cross-examined. The child had not lived with me from its birth—it had been with Mrs. Muller, and then with Mrs. Wetherall—I took the child from Mrs. Wetherall because she went to live over a stable, and kept no servant—there was not trouble about money, but the child's father did not keep up his payments—I did not like Mrs. Wetherall's actions with the child—I had a good deal of bother with her—£3 was all I could afford—I paid £2 for the new clothes, but the others were what she had at Mrs. Wether-all's—when I called on the Sunday and did not find either of the two addresses I was very anxious, and went to the police; but I had no idea what had become of my child—I was sent for to see if I could identify a child, but did not know it was my child—I went to Hammersmith, and from there was taken to Battersea—the child was partially decomposed—the mark on the navel was through the neglect of Mrs. Muller, but there was not very much the matter—the child's nose was very turned up, and its hair was yellow.

Re-examined. I did not like Mrs. Wetherall's conduct towards the child, and that was the object which induced me to take the child from her—I believed the house in the Grove was the house in which the child was to live—when I talked about returning on Sunday I expected to go to that house, and to find it there—I had seen my child pretty frequently in its life, and I have no doubt that the child I saw at the mortuary was mine.

MARTHA WETHERALL . I am married, and live at 73, Gee Street, St.

Luke's—I took charge of Miss Jones' child from about March, 1898, to August 31st, 1899—I was paid 5s. a week, and then half-a-crown—I had no child of my own, and that was the only child living with me—Miss Jones came and saw it mostly every Sunday—it had very good health—it was vaccinated while with me on the left arm—while with me a little accident happened to its face—I put my thumb into its face when I was taking it to be vaccinated, and took a little piece of flesh off, which made the blood come and left a scar—she had golden curly hair, and rather a large navel—on August 31st Miss Jones came and took the child away—it had these shoes on (Produced), and I recognise the frock—I saw a bundle of clothes at the Police-court, and recognised them all except the plaid frock—on September 28th a police-officer took me to Battersea Mortuary—I saw the body of a little girl, and recognised it as Miss Jones' baby—I noticed the scar on its face, but nothing else—I only saw the hands and feet.

Cross-examined. The accident happened by my putting my thumb into its cheek, and I took a piece out—I had got very long nails, I never cut them; I do not bite them; they are now as they ordinarily are—I had the child on March 19th, and had it vaccinated in April—the scratch was done on the morning that it was vaccinated, 10 months before I parted with it—the doctor said, "You have scratched her face," and I said, "Yes"—there was very little blood from it—I had forgotten all about it—her navel stuck out, not much, only when she cried—that was the first baby I ever had—a detective came to me after 9 at night, and I went to Battersea—I think it was on a Wednesday—I said December 28th before the Magistrate—I saw the child's face, hands and feet—they were in a nasty state, going black—she had a flat nose and rather a large mouth—I have seen this photograph, and recognise the nose and mouth and the small hands and feet—I had some conversation with the policeman before I got there—he asked me, "Are there any marks about the child?" and I told him—I knew what I was going to the mortuary for—he told me he wanted me to see if it was Miss Jones' baby.

Re-examined. The sergeant asked me if there were any marks by which I could identify it, and I said, "A scar under the left eye"—I looked for that, and found it—that was the scar I had made; it was very black—she had during life very small feet and hands, a large mouth, and a turned-up nose, and the child in the mortuary had all those things—I have no doubt in my mind about it.

CHARLES ALLEN HOPPER . I live at 139, Greenwich Road, and I am the manager of the Woolwich Herald—advertisements pass through my hands prior to appearing in the paper—about August 16th I received this letter, having on the back of it this draft advertisement—(The letter read: "4, Bradmore Lane, Hammersmith, August 16th, 1899. Sir,—Will you please insert the following advertisement in the next issues of your four papers. Enclosed is 1s. 4d. in halfpenny stamps, and oblige.—Yours truly, M. Hewetson.") (Advertisement: "Adoption.—Young married couple would adopt healthy baby; every care and comfort; good references given; very small premium. Write first to Mrs. Hewetson, 4, Bradmore Lane, Hammersmith")—this (Produced) is the paper in which it appeared.

WILLIAM THOMAS CANNING . I live at 4, Bradmore Lane, Hammersmith—I am a newsagent there—I take in letters for people at 1d. a piece—I remember about August 16th the male prisoner coming and asking me to take in letters in the name of Hewetson—letters came to my premises addressed in that name—the male prisoner came for them, and took them away—I remember on a Sunday in September Miss Jones coming and calling on me—among other letters, I had noticed that one of them had the postmark of "Woolwich"—the last letter addressed to Hewetson came on the Wednesday before the Sunday on which Miss Jones called—I think about seven or eight letters came altogether.

AUDREY WOOLMER . I live at 30, Glenthorne Road, Hammersmith—last August I lived at 12, Southerton Road, Hammersmith, and on August 31st I had a notice in my window, "Apartments to let"—I remember on that day the two prisoners coming—the woman said she wanted a room for "me and my baby" for the night; that she was moving, but did not want her husband to sleep there—she gave the name of Hewetson—she said the baby was with her sister-in-law then—I let her have the room for 3s.—in the evening the woman and a person I now know as Miss Jones arrived—they were carrying a baby and a parcel—when I opened the door the prisoner said, "I have brought my sister in-law back with me; you don't mind, do you? Can I have some tea?"—they had some tea, after which they all went out—the prisoner said she was going to see her sister-in-law off by train—when the two prisoners came earlier in the day to secure the room, the male prisoner was standing on the mat while the arrangements were being made with Mrs. Hewetson—I never saw the man again after that—after Mrs. Hewetson and Miss Jones and the baby went out, Mrs. Hewetson and the baby returned—the prisoner said when she came back, "I do not want to sleep here to-night; my furniture has come, and my husband has got a bed up; will you fetch me down the bundle off the bed, because I do not want to go upstairs again"—I got the parcel for her, and she left the house immediately with the baby and the parcel—I did not see her again till I picked her out from among some other persons—I remember Miss Jones coming to me on the Sunday after the Thursday on which Mrs. Hewetson came.

Cross-examined. All I saw of the male prisoner was while I was making the arrangements with the female prisoner—he was then standing on the mat inside the door—he said he did not like his wife to go to an hotel.

Re-examined. I think he heard all that passed.

BEATRICE BOSWELL . I live at 27, The Grove, Hammersmith—last summer my father purchased that house—there was some work to be done in the house, and the workmen were at work there on August 31st, when we moved in—we have lived there ever since—I cannot quite recollect Miss Jones coming there on a Sunday after we moved in.

DAGMAR LOUGHBOROUGH . I live at 2, Grove Villas, Grove Road, Barnes—I am a married woman, and live there with my husband—we went into occupation about August 16th last—at that point of Grove Road there are three houses which stand together in a row called Grove Villas—No. 1 was empty, and remained so after we occupied

No. 2, and No. 3 was occupied by the two prisoners—when we came I noticed that there was a little boy there, whom I afterwards came to know as Freddy—he was about 10 months old—the prisoner kept no servant—I knew them as Mr. and Mrs. Chard Williams—I only went into No. 3 twice, and Mrs. Williams only came in to me once—she told me her husband was a tutor at a college at Clapham—I saw him about daily—Mrs. Williams said the boys at the college were having their holidays, and that was why he was at home—I remember going in to tea about a week or a fortnight after we went there—I saw the two prisoners and Freddy—he was the only child there in August; but in the first week in September I saw a little girl there, whom I afterwards came to know as Lily—I thought she was about two years old—Mrs. Williams told me the child's name was Lily, and she said it was her sister's child, who lived at Uxbridge, and that her sister was nursing the child's grandmother, who was dangerously ill, and that the child would have to remain with her for certainly a week—on that occasion I saw Mrs. Williams put the child into a corner and give it a smack—the child cried—after that I saw it out in the front garden once or twice—there are gardens at the front and back of the houses—it was playing about, as far as I could see, quite happily—on one occasion, when I was in my garden, the child was crying in No. 3, and I heard Mr. Williams say to Mrs. Williams, "Don't do that," and Mrs. Williams said, "You mind your own damned business, or I will serve you the same"—Mrs. Williams came out into the garden, and told me that Lily had dirtied on the floor, and she had beaten her with a stick for doing so, and left her lying in it, and Mr. Williams had taken the child up to the bath-room, and changed its linen and batced it, and that he had taken the stick from her—I said, "Poor little thing!" and she said, "Serve it right"—a day or two after that I went into No. 3 again, and Mrs. Williams showed me some weals on the child's back—they stood out as thick as my finger—Mrs. Williams said, "Look what I have done"—I said, "What would the mother say if she saw them?" and she said, "I don't care what the mother would say"—the marks were dark-red—she said that she had had Lily's brother under her care two years before, and she wondered they let her have the girl—she never told me what had become of the little girl's brother—I said, "It is a poor little mite," and she said, "She is fretting for the mother"—it was looking miserably thin—I never saw it out in the road or taken out for exercise, or anything of that kind—I only saw it in the garden—I heard it crying continually—I cannot say whether Mr. or Mrs. Williams were in the house on those occasions—on Saturday, September 23rd, I paid a visit to some relations at Greenwich—on that morning before I left home I heard Lily crying, and when I was going away Mrs. Williams came to the gate to see me off—I did not return home till the Monday following, the 25th—I got home about 7 p.m.—I heard nothing from the adjoining house on that night, but on Tuesday morning I saw Mrs. Williams and said, "How unusually quiet lily is!"—she said the mother had come and taken it home on the Sunday, and added, "It is a damned good job it has gone; now I feel in Heaven"—about that time she told me that Lily's mo her had left some of the child's clothes behind, and said I could have them if I liked in exchange for an art flower pot of

mine which she had seen in my house—it was arranged that she should take the flower pot, and I should take the clothes in exchange—she brought the clothes out into the garden—the clothes consisted of a plaid frock, two flannel petticoats, a pair of pink socks, three vests, three pairs of drawers, and an outdoor coat—all those were retained by me till I handed them over to Inspector Scott—I saw Mrs. Williams several times after that—I cannot say the exact date—I saw her in October—after I ceased to see her I saw Mr. Williams once, and I asked him when Mrs. Williams would return, and he said that the friend she had gone to nurse was dangerously ill, and he could not say when she would return—he said she had taken Freddy with her—I remember some furniture being removed from the house—I cannot say who removed it—it was moved at ten 10 o'clock at night—it was about three weeks after my return from Greenwich—my husband had just come in on that night, and he then left our house with the object of going to the landlord—I did not notice anything peculiar about Lily—I did not notice the size of her feet or hands, or if her nose was broken—I did not notice any scars on its face—this is a picture of the child (Produced).

Cross-examined. The nose was such as babies usually have—I did not see the child a great deal—it was miserably thin; not a bag of bones—it did not attract my attention because it was so thin—I was on friendly terms with Mrs. Williams; I did not know very much of her—I did not see her raise the weals on the child—I told the Magistrate that the marks were the sort of marks which might have been caused by the finger nails—I smack my children sometimes—I remembered most of these things when the police came—children do cry, but not constantly—I knew it was not Freddy crying—I did not occupy my time listening—children do fret a bit when they are away from their mothers—I do not suppose it was more than that—if I had not heard of the body being found in the Thames, I should not have thought any more about it—I fixed the 23rd because it was about a fortnight after the twelfth anniversary of my child's birthday—I cannot remember what I did on the previous Saturday—I know it was a fortnight after the 9th, because my little girl mentioned to her sister that it was a fortnight after the 9th—the prisoner mentioned that it was the 23rd; that is just the one Saturday I happen to remember—I only talked to the police about it when they came down—I can fix the date myself—when the child had gone on the Monday I saw Mrs. Williams, and she said that the child had gone back; the mother had taken her, and she felt in Heaven—she did not look happy or miserable—it was she who suggested to me the exchange for the flower pot—I had a child three years old—I did not want them; I wanted to have an exchange.

Re-examined. I very seldom punish my own children—with regard to the condition of this child's back, I never gave them such punishment as that.

By the JURY. I only saw the child twice—Mrs. Williams only came to see me once—she did not bring the child—she said, "See what I have done"—there was no conversation about what made the child cry.

By the COURT. When I left her I did not tell her when I was coming back, but she knew I used to go home from Saturday to Monday, because

I have told her—my husband was not with me—I told her when I was going.

EMILY GERTRUDE PERKINS . I am single, and live at 31, Helston Road, Greenwich—I am Mrs. Loughborough's sister—she visited us on Saturday, September 23rd, and stayed till the Monday following.

Cross-examined. I do not know who came and asked me when my sister-in-law came, or whether it was last week—I do not remember what took place on Saturday, September 16th—the 9th was my niece's birthday—I do not know what took place on September 30th, the next Saturday—I have no written note of the 23rd—I remember it because it was a fortnight after my niece's birthday—a gentleman asked me whether I recollected my sister coming—that is the only Saturday I can remember, except my niece's birthday—I do not know that it was December 23rd when I was spoken to about it—I did not think anything about it.

JAMES SALE . I am a builder, of High Street, Barnes, and act as agent for the owner of 1,2, and 3, Grove Villas—they were new houses in July and August last—they have gardens in front and rear—in July I had an application from a Mr. Williams for the tenancy of No. 3, and the house was let to him by an agreement dated July 18th—this is the agreement (Produced)—it is for three years, at a rental of £28 a year—the name I knew him by was William Goodwin, Devonshire Road, Chiswick—he signed this letter in my office to the owner of the houses: "High Street, Barnes, July 18th, 1899. Mrs. B. B. Barker. Madam,—In consideration of having possession forthwith of the house and premises in Grove Road Barnes, for which I have this day signed an agreement for a three years tenancy from September 29th, 1899, I agree to pay you the sum of £3 10s., half a quarter's rent to that date, and to observe all the covenants of the agreement during that time.—Yours faithfully, WILLIAM GOODWIN. Witness, JAMES SALE "—the prisoner went into occupation almost at once—I cannot say the date, but I handed him the keys at the time that letter was signed—on October 20th I received this letter—(Read: "Durban House, Grove Road, Barnes, October 19th, 1899, My dear Mr. Sale,—Just heard from the governor; he is returning to town on Saturday evening. I am to meet him, and if I can get back in time I will call on you with the £3 10s. Should I be too late I will be at your house the first thing on Monday morning. Sorry to have kept you waiting.—WILLIAM GOODWIN")—on the same day as I got that letter I got a visit from Mr. Loughborough in the evening—he told me something, and two or three days afterwards I went with a carpenter—we had to break through a window to get into the house, which was then empty—we secured the door with a padlock and came away—we did not take any string, or rope, or anything there—I had about three conversations with the male prisoner altogether—I did not notice that he was deaf.

Cross-examined. I suppose I have got a pretty good voice—I did not have any difficulty in making him hear—his agreement started at Michaelmas, but for his convenience he went in about July 18th, for which he was to pay £3 10s.—he left without paying any rent—I did not notice anything extraordinary about his conduct—when I went to the house after he left I found it somewhat untidy—I was not there in September.

ALEXANDER CLYDE (Sergeant 63 V) produced and proved the plant of the locality of 3, Grove Road, Barnes, which showed that that house was 252 ft. from the river.

WILLIAM STOKES . I am a waterman, and live at 63, Asterly Road, Fulham—on September 27th, about 9 a.m., I was working a barge on the Thames off Church Dock, Battersea—I saw a brown paper parcel in the water tied up with string—I pushed it ashore—I saw a child's foot sticking out of the parcel—I saw Constable David Voice (451V), and called his attention to the parcel while it was still in the water—I left him in charge of it.

DAVID VOICE (451 V). On the morning of September 27th Stokes called my attention to a brown paper parcel in the Thames—I looked at it, and saw a baby's foot sticking out—I took it from the edge of the water to the mortuary at Battersea, where I took from the outside of it the paper in which the whole thing was wrapped up—then I came upon a kind of pink-coloured flannelette sewed round the body from the shoulders down to the haunches, with double white thread, and between the legs and around the haunches was a white napkin—the head was covered up with a white cotton bag, tied round the neck with a piece of cotton stuff, the same as the bag was—it was a piece of selvedge torn off—on removing the flannelette from the body I found it was tied up with a kind of sash-cord or blind-cord, the heels being drawn up over the chest, on each side of the head, under the ears; the left arm was thrust under the left leg, between it and the body; the right arm was squeezed between the body and the leg in a straight attitude and secured by the cord or line—I sent for Dr. Kempster, who cut and removed the cord—I cut nothing myself except the outside string and the paper—I took the pink flannelette off; but left on the head covering and the string on the body—this (Produced) is the bag which was over the head; this is the napkin which was round the bottom part of the body, and this is the flannelette which was sewn round the body, from the shoulders down to the haunches—this string was outside the brown paper; this sash-line was tied next the flesh round the arms and neck—I am familiar with knots and the making of them—I was in Her Majesty's Navy for just over 12 years, and there we learned to tie all knots which are required in the Navy—in the blind cord there are knots which are well known to those familiar with knots—there are three knots here known as the fisherman's bend, and here is another known as the half-hitch—there are 11 of those in the string round the brown paper; there were six half-hitches in the blind cord—a reef knot is well known to me, it is used for reefing sails—I find one in the cord round the body, and only one of that kind—"overhand" knots are known to me—seven of them were to be found in the cord round the brown paper, and one in the cord which tied up the body—I took particular notice of the position of the child's limbs at the time it was found, as well as the position of the strings and cords which bound it up—I have prepared a doll about the size of the child, with just the same presentment as I found the child when I took it to the mortuary—(The model was produced)—this shows exactly the position of the child's limbs and the way in which it was tied after the flannelette had been removed, and also it shows the cord

and the position of the knots—I have placed similar knots in the same places as near as I could get them—I was not present when the string was found in the house, but these pieces of cord were afterwards shown to me (Produced)—there is a piece of sash-line, a good bit thicker than the other—[described the piece which was about the child's body as blind-cord or sash-line—in this piece found in the house there is one overhand knot and one half-hitch—in this other piece there are three fisherman's bends, thirteen half-hitches, and eight overhand knots—the sashline has one half-hitch and one overhand knot—they are broken pieces tied together—this piece is a bit thinner than the piece found round the child's body—it is the same kind of stuff, but not quite so thick—the sash-cord and the blind-cord are all the same kind.

Cross-examined. I examined the wrappings round the body—there was no name on them—none of the string found in the house corresponds with the string round the body—I did not search the house—this is all the string I have—this sash-line is the ordinary sash-line which goes up the side of a window, but it would be a very big window to take a line of that description—if I went to an ordinary string-drawer I should not find knots like this—the overhand knot is a common knot, but the halfhitches are more remarkable—there are two kinds of fisherman's knots; one is used for attaching cat-gut to a line, and the other for attaching one end of a line to another.

FELIX CHARLES KEMPSTER . I am Divisional Surgeon of Police, and a member of the Royal College of Surgeons—on September 27th I was called to the mortuary at Battersea, where I saw the body of a female child tied up, and the head was wrapped up—there was a cloth still round the buttocks—the model is exactly as I saw the child before I cut the cords—the head was in a bag, and was tied round the neck—I removed it, and cut the cord which tied up the body—from the appearance of the body, it had been dead from three to six days; according to my opinion, it had been in the water for more than one day—its appearance was consistent with its having been placed in the water on the afternoon or night of Saturday, September 23rd—I noticed that the tongue was between the lips, the hands clenched—there was no appearance of any goose skin—the finger nails were blackened—there was no froth exuding from the mouth or nose, and no foreign body in the air passages—there was a large bruise on the left side of the head, extending from the temple to the back of the head, and covering a space, roughly, about the size of the palm of one's hand—I made a post-mortem examination 1 1/2 hours after I saw the body—I found a quantity of clotted blood between the skin and the skull—there was no fracture of the skull—the bruise was caused before death, and must have been given with considerable violence, and, in my opinion, intentional violence—it could not have been from any accidental fall, in my opinion, unless it had been dropped from a great height—the ordinary effect of such a bruise would have been to stun a child—I came to the conclusion that the child was about 18 months old—it weighed 19 1/2 lb., and was 31 in. in length—it was well developed—I noticed signs of constriction all round the child's neck, exactly corresponding to the tape round it—they were marks of strangling—I found that the lungs were congested, the right side of the

heart full of dark fluid blood, the left side empty—the bag of the heart had a slight excess of fluid—the other organs were normal—those last indications are consistent with asphyxia, or suffocation—the condition of the heart is proof positive of suffocation—there was no matter under the lungs or in the stomach—by the condition of the different organs I am of opinion that the child was suffocated by strangulation and not by drowning—I did not find any signs which one generally seeks for as an indication that the child was suffocated by drowning, except the heart, and that would be common to both—I had enough to satisfy me that the cause of death was suffocation, and that by the string round the child's neck—I think the child was put into the water when dead—I did not see any signs of the child having struggled after it was tied up, and that is one of the reasons why I think it was stunned at the time, it was tied up—the child had been vaccinated on the left arm—its navel was slightly protruding, owing to some of the changes which take place after birth—I noticed there was a little scar on the left cheek; it had become black from the water.

Cross-examined. The protruding navel was slight—it is a common thing to find a protruding navel—I do not think it has anything to do with the treatment—the scar on the left cheek did not resemble a finger scratch; it was more like a pin scratch—I think it must have been done some time before—in a reasonably healthy child the skin would heal more quickly than with older people—the body would sink when put into the water at first—it would rise when decomposition set in; the gases would inflate the body—I do not think a heavy body would rise more quickly than a thin one—I do not think that a fat person would decompose more quickly; my experience is the other way—I should say that it is correct to say that this child was a plump, well-developed child—the length of time before a body comes to the surface all depends on the condition of the body when placed in the water, the temperature of the water, and the atmospheric condition—in a thunderstorm or on the discharge of a great gun it would come up quicker, and it would come up quicker in summer than in winter—it is the decomposition setting in which causes the body to rise—on land, decomposition may set in very rapidly or very slowly—I have known cases where decomposition has set in in two hours, and other cases in four days—the two hours' case was after gun-shot wounds. In this case decomposition had set in—the skin was peeling off—the head and face were congested—discoloration is a different thing—the face and head being congested are symptoms of suffocation—the child had an excess of blood in the head, owing to the cord round the neck—if the body had not been put into the water, and if the weather had been cold, I should not have expected decomposition to have begun for about three days; having been put into the water, the action of the water itself would have delayed decomposition—it is not a usual experience that if a body be recovered from water after eight or ten days in summer, or a longer period in winter, no signs of decomposition will be seen—I have heard of Dr.Tidy, but my experience tells me it is very difficult to form an opinion—in this easel believe the weather was rather cold, which would retard decomposition—I cannot say if the action of the water would delay decomposition for six days—I cannot remember the

time of year—after a body is taken out of water rapid decomposition may set in, but it did not take place in this case—I did not examine the body for the scars for two or three days after, not till October 2nd, and it was quite easy to observe the child's features then—they would be horrible to an ordinary person.

Re-examined. The scar under the eye was very black—in my opinion there was nothing which I could see which would prevent the child having been placed in the water on the Saturday, and having been taken out on the following Wednesday morning—I think it might have been in the water from three to six days—if the body had been kept out of the water for some time it would decompose more quickly than if it had been put in at once.

By the JURY. The legs were not dislocated or broken; they were drawn up as children's legs can be drawn up—it would have required a good deal of force, and if the child had been conscious it would have struggled—an ordinary woman could have done it if the child had been unconscious, because then it would have been loose—if the child were conscious I think it would be a very heavy task for anyone—I do not think the blow could have been given by a hand or fist—it was given by a heavy blunt instrument, by banging the child against a wall, or by a blow on the head—I do not think it could have lived scarcely more than a minute or so after being tied up like this—the tape was very tightly tied round the neck, and it would not take" more than from 60 to 90 seconds to suffocate a person that way—suffocation would be more slow if the child was stunned—if it was tied up after the blow it would never be conscious of anything again—it is not usual for scars to afterwards blacken—this was due to mud which had worked in—it had even worked into the slight depression and left a black line—it is assumed that the child was alive on the 23rd, which would be four days—it does not follow that the body was in the water all the time—if it was kept in a warm room or in a cupboard it would decompose very rapidly.

THOMAS GROVES (inspector). On December 5th this letter (Produced) was received at New Scotland Yard in this envelope.

JANE DAVIDSON . I am a wardress at Her Majesty's Prison, Holloway—I had charge of the female prisoner on December 18th, and at her request I gave her a piece of paper with some initials on it—she was in the cell at the time alone, and after a little time she handed me this letter as it is now (Produced).

Cross-examined. She wrote it to a friend named "Hetty"—I passed it to the warder in charge.

THOMAS HENRY GUERRIN . I practise at 59, Holborn Viaduct, and have had a good many years' experience in examining handwriting—I have had letter No. 13, which was produced by the last witness, and written on December 18th, put before me, and I have examined the writing—I have also seen No. 3, which was written to Miss Jones, and No. 5, to the Woolwich Herald, also letter No.9, envelope No. 10, and letter No. 11—I have compared the writing in Nos.3,5 9,10,and 11 with that in No. 13—in my opinion they are all written by the same person—(No. 9 read: "To the Secretary, Criminal Investigation Department, New Scotland Yard, W. Sir,—I must apologise taking this liberty, but I see by the papers that I, in conjunction with my husband, are suspected of

murdering the little female child found at Battersea on September 27th. The accusation is positively false. The facts of the case are these: I, much against my husband's wish, in August last advertised for a child, thinking to make a little money, the result of which was the adoption of this little child, with whom I received the sum £3. My next act was to advertise for a home for a little girl; I used some shop in Warwick Road, West Kensington, I forget the number, but I used the name of Denton, or Dalton, I am not sure which. I received about 40 replies, from which I chose one, from George Street or George Road, Croydon. The lady from Croydon, Mrs. Smith by name, agreed to take the child for £1 and clothes. I met her at Clapham Junction, the Falcon Hotel, on a Saturday about the middle of September; we were to meet at 7 o'clock. I arrived at time, but Mrs. Smith was 20 minutes late. I handed the child over to her, and she was then quite well. That is the last I saw of her. I have, it is true, been carrying on a sort of baby-farm; that is to say, I have adopted babies, and then advertised and got them re-adopted for about half the amount I had previously received. I have had five in this way; two died while in my care, but I can prove that every attention and kindness was shown them; no money was grudged over their illness. I can prove this by the people with whom we lodged, and also by the doctors who attended them. Two I have had re-adopted; one went to Essex, the other to Bristol, and the last one I parted with as above stated. From the accounts in the papers I am alleged to have carried on this system for six years; now, that, too, is utterly wrong. I am evidently mistaken for someone else, as the first one I ever adopted was in November, 1897. You will say, 'If innocent, why not come forward?' There have been innocent people hanged before now, and I must admit that at the present things look very much against me, but it is not fair to go entirely on circumstantial evidence. I am trying to find the woman to whom I gave up the child, but, unfortunately for me, I destroyed her letters, and if I came forward there would be no possibility of clearing myself unless I could find some clue about her. In conclusion, I must tell you that my husband is not to blame in any way whatever; he has always looked upon the whole matter with the greatest abhorrence, but only gave way to me because he was, through illness, out of employment; he never, however, once touched any of the money I made by these means.—Yours truly, (Signed) M. HEWETSON. P.S.—We left Barnes simply because we were unable to meet the rent, and some time before we heard of this lamentable affair. The shop in Warwick Road is a newspaper shop, the Hammersmith Road end, and only a few doors down on the right hand side."

GEORGE SAUNDERS . I live at 6, Chelmer Terrace, Chelmsford, and am a clerk in the office of The Essex Weekly News, which also owns The Essex Independent, The South end Observer, and The Barking Observer—on July 27th I received this letter: "27, Warwick Road, Kensington, W., 26/7/99. Sir,—Will you kindly insert the following in The Essex Weekly News series; enclosed is postal order for 1s. 6d., and oblige yours truly, G. DALTON: Advertisement: 'Home required for young child; terms 16s. per month, paid in advance; references given and required.—Mrs.

G. Dalton, 257, Warwick Road, Kensington'"—that advertisement appeared in the newspapers—the last date on which it appeared was August 3rd—they are weekly papers coming out on different days of the week.

Cross-examined. The advertisement would appear in one edition of each paper.

ELIZABETH SHEFFIELD . I live at 257, Warwick Road, Kensington, and take in letters for people at 1d. a piece—I remember last summer receiving a number of letters addressed to my premises in the name of Dalton—a man came for them—I am doubtful if I could recognise him—the letters were given to him—there were about 40 of them altogether—on one occasion a woman came with the man—I should not be able to recognise her, I only saw her once—that was about August.

Cross-examined. I do not know when the man ceased to come—it might have been the last week in August.

By the COURT. I was not receiving letters for the person named Dalton at any later time.

ELLEN ETHEL SMITH . I now live at 234, Albert Road, Addiscombe, Croydon, but last year I lived in George Street, Croydon—I lived there at Whitecliffe's Stores for about 12 months, and left on August 7th—I did not know of any other Mrs. Smith living at George Street—this George Street is the only one I know at Croydon—I do not know the female prisoner—to my knowledge, I have never seen her—she never delivered a child to me anywhere.

CHARLES EPTON . I am a postman, living at 7, Sheldon Street, Croydon—I delivered letters in George Street, Croydon, in September last—I have been on that duty for three or four years—in August I delivered letters to Mrs. Smith at Whitecliffe's Stores—in addition there is a Mr. Smith who has a confectioner's shop, and one who trades as a hosier in George Street—those are the only Smiths I know—I do not know of a street called George Road.

Cross-examined. There are four deliveries—I deliver there three times a day.

EDWARD DAVY SMITH . I have got a confectioner's shop at 53, George Street, Croydon—I am a single man—there is nobody connected with those premises named Mrs. Smith—I have been there about nine years.

PERCY SMITH . I have a hosier's shop at 44, George Street, where I trade as Smith & Wilson—I am married—Mrs. Smith lives a short distance from Croydon—I have been in George Street four years—I have nobody named Mrs. Smith connected with my shop.

JOHN DUPLANE . I live at 62, Elderfield Road, Clapton Park—last December I was the proprietor of 26, Gainsborough Road, Hackney, which is a coffee-shop—in November I saw an advertisement in the Daily Chronicle, which my wife answered, in consequence of which Mrs. Williams came to my shop—she told me she was a widow with one child—she came to assist the Missus in the business—I engaged her for that—she brought the child four or five days after she entered upon her duties, which she did late in November—the child was called Freddy—the male prisoner came to my shop on December 7th—that was the first time I saw him—the female prisoner said he was her brother-in-law,

which I accepted—he did not stay the night, but he came the next evening, and he was there when the police came and arrested them—I was going to give up the business on the 11th, and had given Mrs. Williams notice; she was to leave on the Saturday morning.

Cross-examined. My tenancy expired on Monday, the 11th, and the prisoner was going on the Saturday previous—she lived on the premises—she seemed to treat Freddy well, what I saw of him.

JOHN WINDSOR (Sergeant, V). On the evening of December 8th I saw the little boy Freddy at Bridge Street Police-station, and took possessions of his clothing—he was wearing this petticoat, these shoes and socks (Produced)—on November 2nd I went to 3, Grove Villas, with Inspector Scott, and found in the kitchen this string and this piece of sash-cord—the house was empty, with the exception of some rubbish lying about.

Cross-examined. The pieces of string were tied together by Inspector Scott with a piece of tape.

JOSEPH GOUGH (Police-sergeant). I went with Inspector Scott on the evening of December 8th to Gainsborough Road, where I saw the male prisoner and took him into custody—I told him I was going to arrest him for being concerned with Mrs. Williams in the wilful murder of Selina Ellen Jones about September last—he said, "We are guilty of fraud, but innocent of murder"—he was then taken upstairs to where Inspector Scott was.

JAMES SCOTT (Detective Inspector). On December 8th T went to 26, Gainsborough Road, Hackney, with Sergeant Gough, where I saw the male prisoner in the kitchen, and told Gough to arrest him while I went upstairs, where I saw the female prisoner kneeling, apparently packing a trunk—I said, "I am Inspector Scott"—before I could say anything she said, "I know, you have come about the Battersea job; I knew it was you as soon as I heard your step on the stairs"—I said, "Mrs. Williams, I arrest you for the wilful murder of Selina Ellen Jones, and anything yon may say to me will be given in evidence against you"—she said, "Have you got my letter?"—I said, "Yes"—she then said, "That letter is God's truth; but I know I cannot clear myself; my husband was not in the house when I took the child away"—the man was then brought upstairs, and I repeated the charge to both of them; they made no reply—they were taken to the Police-station, and eventually to Battersea I found the little boy named Freddy at the Battersea Policestation on the following day—I looked through the trunk which Mrs. Williams was packing—I found a large quantity of children's clothing—on September 27th I received information of the finding of the body in the Thames, and on the first Sunday in October I saw in the Weekly Dispatch a reference to the finding of the body—on Monday, October 2nd, the first hearing of the inquest was held—there was some mention in the public press of the hearing—the inquest was adjourned till November 27th, when I was present, when it was concluded.

Cross-examined. The inquest began on October 2nd.

Re-examined. This black bag was in the prisoner's trunk.

JOHN DUPLANE (Re-examined). The coffee-shop was closed on Sundays while the prisoner was with me, and she would be at liberty to go out—

she was at work as usual on Tuesday, December 5th—she came to me in the name of Mrs. Williams.

FLORENCE JONES (Re-examined). Some of the child's clothes were missing.


12th February 1900
Reference Numbert19000212-186
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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186. WILLIAM CHARD WILLIAMS was again indicted for assisting and harbouring Ada Chard Williams, who had committed the crime of wilful murder.

On the suggestion of the learned JUDGE, MR. MATHEWS, for the Prosecution, offered no evidence, and the Jury returned a verdict of NOT GUILTY .


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