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Sessions Paper.








Short-hand Writers to the Court,



Sess. I-VI



Law Publishers to the Queen's Most Excellent Majesty.



On the Queen's Commission of



The City of London,





Held on Monday, november 18th, 1867, and following days,

BEFORE THE RIGHT HON. WILLIAM FERNELEY ALLEN, LORD MAYOR of the City of London; Sir WILLIAM FRY CHANNELL , Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Exchequer; Sir JOHN BARNARD BYLES , Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; WILLIAM TAYLOR COPELAND , Esq., Sir JOHN MUSGROVE , Bart., Aldermen of the said City; the Right Hon. RUSSELL GURNEY , Q.C., M.P., Recorder of the said City; JAMES CLARKE LAWRENCE , Esq., THOMAS DAKIN , Esq., SILLS JOHN GIBBONS, Esq., Sir SIDNEY HEDLEY WATERLOW , Knt., and JOSEPH CAUSTON , Esq., Aldermen of the said City; and THOMAS CHAMBERS , Esq., Q.C., M.P., Common Serjeant of the said City; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer, and General Gaol delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.

DAVID HENRY STONE , Esq., Alderman








A star (*) denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars (**) that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk (†) that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.


OLD COURT.—Monday, November 18th, 1867.

Before Mr. Recorder.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-1
VerdictNot Guilty > no prosecutor

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1. ADOLPH JUNGTAW (42) was indicted for unlawfully obtaining two rugs by false pretences.

The prosecutor and witnesses being called, and not appearing, the prisoner was acquitted.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-2
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation
SentenceImprisonment; Imprisonment

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2. GEORGE COHEN LITTLE (32) and WILLIAM EUSTACE (48) were indicted for stealing 276 yards of carpet of the Midland Railway Company.

MESSRS. POLAND and BESLEY conducted the Prosecution.

MR. COLLINS appeared for Little, and MR. SLEIGH for Eustace.

JOSEPH MOORE . I am a packer to Messrs. John Sheard and Co., carpet manufacturers, of Halifax—on 23rd March last I packed three trusses containing six pieces of carpet, four pieces, and two pieces for J. Easten and Co., of Fell Street—this invoice is my writing—they were stair carpets, bordered, with a green centre—the trusses were marked E 959, 60, and 61—the carpets were worth about 38l.—I made out a consignment note at the time of packing—I have the counterfoil here—it is not in my writing—I handed this paper to the railway company with the trusses; and the man that received them signed it. (This was an account of three trusses delivered to the Midland Railway Company, marked E 959-61, for Easten and Co., London).

WILLIAM THOMAS FROOME . I am a carman in the service of the Midland Railway Company—on 25th March last I received three trusses, marked E 956 to 61 inclusive, with this way-bill—they are entered in the way bill for Easten and Co., Addle Street—I went to Addle Street, I made inquiries there, and from what I heard I went to 7, Philip Lane,

which leads out of Addle Street—there was no name up there, it looked as if it had been freshly done up—I went to No. 7, I there saw Little, and asked him whether that was Easten's, of Addle Street—he said, "Yes"—I told him I had three trusses of carpet, and showed him the bill—he told me to bring them in, I took them in, and he signed for them, "T.C. Little"—the carriage was paid—I know nothing of any firm of Eustace and Co. in Addle Street—I have delivered goods before in Addle Street, but not to that name. (The way-bill was for Easten and Co. The goods were described as marked E 959-61, and the receipt was, "Received, in good condition, by T. C. Little")

Cross-examined by MR. SLEIGH. Q. Did you hear from the persons in Addle Street that Easten and Co. had removed from there to Philip Lane? A. I inquired in Addle Street, not at any place, but of a person that was standing at the corner of Philip Lane—I asked whether he knew the name of Easten, and he said, "Yes, they have moved, and that is their premises I believe in Philip Lane"—the place in Philip Lane looked as if it had been fresh painted; there were no workmen there at the time—the bales had no name on them, only the letter and number—I won't be certain whether or no I said to Little, "You used to be in Addle Street, and I am told you have moved here" I do not recollect whether I did or not—I did not notice whether there were any other goods there.

JOHN NELSON . I am a house agent, of 16, Addle Street—I know Eustace—the first I knew of him was at the end of November last—I had some premises to let in Addle Street, and he came to look at them—he came two or three times at least—we agreed as to terms, and I asked him if they were for him—he said no, they were for a Mr. Jennings, and I let them to Mr. Jennings—he told me Jennings was a draper at Hastings—I let the premises to Jennings, and Jennings came and signed the agreement; that was in Addle Street—there was a written agreement, I have not got it—he paid me in Eustace's presence 30l. deposit on the fixtures, and 10l., one month's rent from the end of November to Christmas, when the agreement was to commence—directly they got possession they put up the name of Eustace and Co.—they went on I think to the end of February or the beginning of March—the name of Eustace and Co. was up the whole of that time—I was at the premises once or twice during that period—at the end of that time the stock was all removed—Eustace told me that Jennings came one evening while he (Eustace) was at Hastings with his wife and family, and took away all his stock—I said, "How will that affect you? you were only paid a salary"—he said, "Yes, I was a partner"—at that time Eustace came to me about some premises that I had to let at 7, Philip Lane—he offered me rent, and I agreed to take him—I said, "I must know who you are, as Jennings turned out so queer as he did, shutting up the place"—he then gave me the name of William Lake—I said, "I thought your name was Eustace"—he said, "No, that is my name"—I said, "Now I must have a reference with you before I agree to take you as a tenant"—he gave me two references—the negotiation ended in an agreement being signed—this is it—it was signed in my presence by the prisoner, "William Lake"—my name is to it as a witness—he paid me 15l. for gas-fittings next day—I went after the two references, and I did not like them, and would not have them—I afterwards saw the prisoner, and said, "I won't take these references, they won't do at all"—he then gave me another—I told him I had been to the references, I and they did not know him by the name of Lake—he said, "No, my name

is Shearman, that is my real name," and he handed me this card, "Captain William Eustace Shearman, Royal Dragoons"—I gave him possession of I the premises in Philip Lane on 13th March, the agreement is dated the 12th—one morning, about a week or ten days afterwards, about eleven or twelve o'clock, I met him in Addle Street—he was looking up at the different doors, as though to find a name; he stopped me and said, "Mr. Nelson, do you know the name of Easten and Co., of Addle Street?"—I said, "No, yours is the nearest to it, you call yourself Eustace and Co.; why do you ask me?"—he said, "I have got three bales of carpet left at my place in Philip Lane, and they are not for me; I have ordered no carpets, it must be a mistake"—I then went with him to his premises—I there saw three bales of carpet, one bale was partly cut open; they were sewed up in. canvas—I saw the carpet; it was a bordered stair-carpet—he said, "They are not for me, I have ordered no carpets"—I did not see any other stock in the place; I think he said he had not bought his stock at that time—the rent became due on Midsummer Day—some time in April or May I found that the place was closed—there was no name painted up there.

Cross-examined by MR. SLEIGH, Q. Did you not observe some bales of cloth in the place? A. No, I saw no goods, only these three bales of carpet standing on the floor—I looked, I had a reason for looking—I was only in one room, there are five floors to the house—when he was in business with Jennings they had a woollen stock and shawls for serving hawkers—Eustace did not tell me that he had ordered goods from Huddersfield; I swear that—he said he had not bought any goods yet, and that was the reason he had no stock at his place—I may have said that I would not swear he did not say he had ordered goods from Huddersfield—I won't say he did not say so—I have no recollection of it—one of his references told me that the prisoner's name was Shearman, and that he had been a captain in the army—I have not taken the trouble to ascertain whether that true or not—he said that Jennings had taken away 500l. stock—he said that was the reason he had adopted the name of Lake, that he had taken advice on the subject, that he did it for the purpose of protecting himself, if possible, from Jennings—he said he should bring an action against Jennings—he said that, after I had complained of his giving me a false name.

MR. POLAND. Q. Did he explain to you how adopting the name of Lake would protect him from his partner, Jennings? A. No—he said his solicitor had advised him to do it, I did not ask who his solicitor was—I believe this letter to be the prisoner's writing—he had given me no notice to leave the premises in Philip Lane—I found them shut up.

MR. SLEIGH. Q. Don't you know that he was arrested at the suit of some manufacturers in the North of England, and lodged in Whitecross Street, about April? A. No, I never heard of it till this morning—I supposed that Eustace was his name in Addle Street, because he put that name up; he was there all the time, and he appeared to be the acting man.

HENRY HORATIO RALPH . I am superintendent of the goods depot of the Midland Railway Company, in Falcon Square—some inquiries were made of me by Easten and Co., of Fell Street, in consequence of which I went to 7, Philip Lane—had seen the carman in the meantime; I think it was about a week after the delivery of the goods—I saw Lit tie there; there were no gods on the premises that I could see; all the bottom of the place seemed to be entirely empty, and there was no name up—I had this

way-bill with me—I asked him if that was Easten and Cos.—he said no, it was Eustace—I asked if I could see Mr. Eustace—he said no, I could not, but I could see him on the following Friday or Saturday, and I said I would call again—I fancy he said Mr. Eustace was at Manchester, but I am not positive about that—I went again in three or four days—I asked him then if Mr. Eustace was there—he said no, he was not—I asked him if I could see Mr. Little—he said I could see him on the following Friday or Saturday—I told him what I had come about, that the goods had been delivered wrong, and whoever took them in must have known it—I had the way-bill in my hand at the time, and I said I asked for Little because he was the person that had signed for the goods—I went again on the day he stated and saw Little; Eustace was not there—Little then handed me this letter—I did not at that time know that he was Little—I went away and made inquiries, and then returned, taking with me his landlord—when I came to the door Little was coming out; the landlord said, "That is Mr. Little"—I then asked him what he meant by denying himself to me as he had done on several occasions—he said he was only a servant in the matter, and he did not want to have anything to do with it—I fancy on the last occasion he said he did not know where the goods were, but I am not positive whether he did or not, but he gave me that letter, it was open, there was no envelope to it. (Read: "Manchester, 11th April, 1867. Sir,—Tell the party who calls about the carpets that, as I had ordered some goods from Huddersfield, I presumed these were them, and directed you to forward them to my establishment at Hastings, and it was only upon my hearing from there that I have discovered they are not what I ordered. However, they were put in stock, and I believe a portion of them sold, so that he must send in the invoice for them and I will settle it. If they had put a label on the bales the mistake would not have happened. I shall be in London next week. W. Eustace.") A short time after this a summons was taken out for the prisoners to appear at Guildhall Police-court—Little appeared, but not Eustace; Mr. Beard came into Court as solicitor for Little, and said in his presence, oh, it was simply a mistake in the I delivery, and the goods were to be had if we chose to send for them—upon I that the Alderman said I had better go to Philip Lane, and I went with Little—I found the place shut up; it was between eleven and twelve o'clock, I we were not able to get in—Little said, "Oh, it is shut up and I have not I got the key now, Mr. Eustace has got it"—I then went with him to his I lodging to see if Mr. Eustace had left it there—we could not get the key—I went to the place again a few days afterwards, and it was still shut up—I never saw anything of Eustace till he was in custody in October.

Cross-examined by MR. SLEIGH. Q. Can you tell me when it was the company first made any inquiry about this property which had been misdelivered? A. No, I took no date down—I should think it was about a week after the delivery—I am not aware that Eustace offered to pay the I company the value of them—I know nothing of any negotiations; somebody called on me and I referred them to the solicitors—they said it was a bad job, but no money was offered.

Cross-examined by MR. COLLINS. Q. When you returned with the landlord of Little, did he say he was a servant of Mr. Eustace? A. Yes, when he gave me the letter he said he had received it from Mr. Eustance in reply to a letter from telling him of my application—Little appeared before the Alderman on the summons in May, and again in November—I think it was before I brought the landlord that he showed me the letter.

JAMES HANN (City Detective). In consequence of the non-attendance of Eustace on the summons, I got a warrant—it was issued to some one else—I did not get it till June—I endeavoured to execute it—I did not see Eustace till 16th October, as he was leaving the Green Park, Piccadilly—I stopped him and told him I had a warrant to apprehend him for stealing a quantity of carpet, the property of the Midland Railway Company—he I said he thought the matter was settled—I told him it was not, that he I must go with me to the City—he said he was very sorry, but he never I received the worth of a penny for the carpet—on our way down Piccadilly I asked him where the carpets were left, in Addle Street or Philip Lane—I he said they were left at his warehouse in Philip Lane—I asked him what became of the carpets—he said a person of the name of Prescott took them away and had never paid for them—he said he was at Hastings when the goods were delivered.

Cross-examined by MR. SLEIGH. Q. Did he say, further, that after Prescott had got the goods he (Eustace) had offered to pay the company for them? A. He said there had been some statement laid before the I solicitors for the prosecution, and they had promised to lay it before the board—he did not say that he had offered Mr. Sawbridge, the solicitor for the company, to pay for the goods, and that Mr. Sawbridge had promised to lay that proposition before the board—he did not tell me when the offer was made.

W. T. FROOME (re-examined). I was at the hearing before the Alderman at Guildhall the first time—I could not say the date—I should think it was somewhere at the latter end of April—I was there every time—Little surrendered on each occasion, and was let out on his own recognisances.

ABEL PERKS . I am manager of the carpet department at Messrs. Easten and Co's., of 2, Fell Street, and 3 and 4, Hart Street, City—I did not receive three bales of carpet about 25th March from Sheard and Co., only the invoice, not the goods—we afterwards applied to the railway company, and they paid us the value.

MR. SLEIGH. on the part of Eustace, submitted that no case of larceny was made out the railway company, in whom the property was laid, having parted, not only with the possession, but also with the property in the goods, and no trick on the part of Eustace being shown in order to obtain possession of them.

MR. POLAND contended that the railway company, having only authority to deliver to Easten and Co., had no power to part with the property in the goods to any other parties; that the mistake of the carman in leaving them at the wrong premises did not deprive the company of their property in them; and that the subsequent conversion of them by Eustace to his own purposes was in fact a larceny of the goods of the company, just as much as if he had taken them out of the cart himself. MR. BESLEY (on same side) urged that as soon as the goods came into the possession of Little he, by accepting possession of them, might be deemed a bailee for the owner, and that directly Eustace became acquainted with the circumstances and co-operated with him, he was accessory with him as bailee, and then if, contrary to that bailment, they jointly converted the goods to their own purposes, a case of larceny would be established. (See Reg. v. Robson, 31 Law Journal, and Cox's Criminal Cases, p. 30.) MR. SLEIGH having been heard in reply, the RECORDER decided upon leaving the case to the Jury, not on the ground of the prisoners being bailees, but that the property in the goods had not been parted with; the carman had the limited authority to part with them to Easten and Co. only, and by leaving them in mistake the property was not really parted with.

Eustace received a good character. GUILTY. Recommended to mercy by the Jury, especially Little, as acting under the orders of Eustace.

LITTLE— Three Months' Imprisonment.

EUSTACE— Six Months' Imprisonment.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-3
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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3. JOHN HULL (20) , Robbery on George Rees, and stealing a chain and medal, his property.

MR. GRIFFITHS conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM WEST (Policeman G 112). On Saturday afternoon, 9th November, about half-past four, I was standing at the top of Cheapside, and saw the prisoner there, and several others, I saw him go up to the prosecutor, snatch hold of his chain, and run away—the prosecutor hallooed out, "Stop thief"—I ran after him, calling, "Stop thief," and he was stopped by a gentleman, who took this chain from his hand, with the two-sovereign piece attached to it.

GEORGE HOWELL . I am a law writer, of Grafton Street, Mile End—I saw the prisoner running towards me, followed by the officer—I caught hold of him and held him till the officer came up—I wrenched his hand open and found this chain in it.

GEORGE REES . I am a student, residing at Derby—on the 9th November I was at the top of Cheapside—I had this chain and medal attached to it—my coat was buttoned—some parties behind me got hold of my elbows, unbuttoned my coat, and some one, I can't say it was the prisoner, snatched my chain and ran away with it—I called out, "Stop thief."

Prisoner's Defence. I picked it up from the ground.

GUILTY . He was further charged with having been before convicted, in May, 1867, to which he PLEADED GUILTY.— Twelve Months' Imprisonment.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-4
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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4. JANE MARTIN (30) , Stealing a watch and purse of Samuel Smith, from his person.

MR. LEWIS conducted the Prosecution, and MR. PATER the Defence.

SAMUEL SMITH . I am an engine-fitter, and live at Plaistow Marsh; on Tuesday night, 22nd October, I met the prisoner and went with her to a public-house and treated her—I had with me a purse, a watch, and a stick—I had one sovereign, and I think nearly a pound's worth of silver—I was not exactly sober—I do not think was in the house ten minutes—I almost think she left first—some one asked me if I had lost my watch—I then found it gone, and my money and stick also—these produced are my I stick, watch, and purse—here is a foreign coin which I know I lost with my other money in my purse that night.

Cross-examined. Q. You scarcely knew what you had been doing that night, I think? A. Yes—I had come all the way from Brompton, on the I other side of Chatham—I left Strood by the seven o'clock train, and I arrived in London about nine—as far as I can make out, I think I met I the prisoner somewhere near Tower Street—I only went to one place to have drink—I had had some with my shipmates before I left Brompton, and no more till I met the prisoner—I don't know the time I met her exactly—she was a stranger to me—I did not give her these things to take care of—I am married—I gave her nothing, only treated her with a glass—the watch is worth about 9l.

ALFRED THOMPSON (City Policeman). On 22nd October, about half-past eleven o'clock, I saw the prisoner in company with another woman

in Jewry Street—I took her to the French Horn public-house, in Crotehed Friars, where the prosecutor was; I asked him whether he had lost anything; he said yes, he had lost his watch and some money—I asked him how much money he had lost, he said he thought about 2l.—the prisoner said that he was her husband—she denied knowing anything about the watch or the purse—she was under the influence of drink—I took her to the police-station, she was searched by a female, who handed these articles to the inspector in my presence—the prosecutor identified the watch—the purse I picked up on the floor of the station where the prisoner was standing—it contained a half railway ticket from Plaistow to Woolwich—the prosecutor identified it—the purse had no money in it—the prisoner said she knew nothing at all about it.

Cross-examined. Q. The other woman was in the station at the same time, was she not? A. Yes—she was discharged by the Magistrate—she was not more than two or three feet from the prisoner—the foreign coin was found on the other woman.

MARIA CHAMBERS . I am female searcher at Seething Lane Police-station—I searched the prisoner—I found this watch in her pocket, also 11s. 6d. in silver, and some halfpence—she wished me to keep it and say nothing about it.

GUILTY .— Six Months' Imprisonment.

The following Prisoners PLEADED GUILTY:—

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-5
VerdictsGuilty > pleaded guilty

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18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-6
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6. WILLIAM HENRY SMITH (47) , to stealing a woollen shirt of I Louis Philip Mayer, having been before convicted.— Two Years' Imprisonment. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]

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7. AUGUSTE DUAL (27) , to a burglary in the dwelling-house of Thomas Josh Skelton, and stealing two coats and other goods, I having been before convicted.— Two Years' Imprisonment [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-8
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8. WILLIAM THOMPSON (29) , to stealing 245l. 13s. 4d., and 50l., of John Gurney Hoare and others, his masters.— Five Years' Penal Servitude. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]

18th November 1867
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9. FREDERICK JAMES (23) , to stealing two gold chains, three rings, two brooches, and a writing-case, of the South-Eastern Railway Company, his masters.— Eighteen Months' Imprisonment. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.] And

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-10
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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NEW COURT.—Monday, November 8th, 1867.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-11
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty; Guilty > unknown
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11. JOSEPH LYNCH (27), JOHN WILLIAMS (21), and GEORGE MOORE (18) , Unlawfully having counterfeit coin in their possession, with intent to utter it, to which. WILLIAMS and MOORE PLEADED GUILTY .**— Seven Years' Penal Servitude each.

MESSRS. COLERIDGE and STRAIGHT conducted the Prosecution, and MR. WARNER SLEIGH the Defence.

CHARLES BROHFIELD (Policeman X 31). On the afternoon of the 1st November I was in Heston with constable Stanley about four o'clock—in consequence of information, I rode on to Hanwell, and afterwards to Brentford, where I saw the three prisoners near the toll-gate—they were together, but Lynch then loitered behind for four or five yards—we rode past them—Lynch then joined the other two—we then rode back and took

them in custody—I asked them if they had been to Halstead, they said no—I then said I should take them for passing bad money—Stanley assisted me in taking them to the station—I searched Lynch first, and in the bow of his necktie I found seven or eight counterfeit florins, in his waistcoat pocket there were three or four more, and in his trousers pocket three bad shillings—there was no good money on him—I found on Williams two keys and a purse—I found on Moore some good silver and fourpence in copper.

Cross-examined. Q. Was Lynch's necktie round his neck when you found the money? A. Yes.

WILLIAM STANLEY (Policeman A R 808). On November 1st I was with Bromfield at Brentford—I assisted him in taking the prisoners—I first saw them near the toll-gate at the lower end of Brentford, coming from the direction of Hounslow—Lynch was a little behind the other two—we rode past, and he afterwards joined them—I did not see him conversing with them—we then dismounted—I caught hold of Lynch and Williams; we accused them of passing bad money—I kept my eye behind them, and saw something drop; a man named Goodman picked it up, and I found it was a bad florin—I took them to the station, and was present when they were searched.

EDWARD BENJAMIN GOODMAN . I keep the Northumberland beershop at Brentford End—I picked up a florin, which I saw Williams drop—I gave it to Stanley.

JOHN HUTCHINGS . I keep the Old George at Heston—that is about three miles from Brentford, and about two and a half miles from the tollgate—on 1st November the prisoners came in—I served Williams with a pint of beer—he gave me a florin—I had no small change, and asked my brother-in-law, Mr. Gilbert, if he could change it—he afterwards brought me the florin again—I gave Williams 1s. 6d. change—Lynch had some bread and paid for it himself.

WILLIAM GILBERT . I was in the Old George on 1st November, and saw the prisoners come in—he gave me a florin, which he asked me to change for him—I put it in my pocket, and afterwards gave it to the constable—I did not find out that it was bad till the constable asked me for it.

FRANCIS POWELL . I keep the Rose and Crown, Heston—I remember Williams and Moore coming—they had a bottle of ginger beer and three-halfpennyworth of gin and cloves, and paid with a florin—I put it in the till; there was no other florin there—I afterwards found it was bad, and gave it to the constable.

WILLIAM WADE . I am landlord of the Wolf, Norwood Green, near Southall—on 1st November, about three o'clock, Lynch passed my house, I and two or three minutes afterwards Williams and Moore came across the I green into the house—they had a bottle of soda-water and gave me a florin—I bent it nearly double with my teeth and said that it was bad—I they paid me with good money—I put it on the counter and they picked it up.

HENRY ROWE . I am a builder, of Norwood Green, nearly opposite Mr. Wade's—on 1st November, about three o'clock, I saw the prisoners together coming towards Mr. Wade's—they parted company, and Williams and Moore went into Mr. Wade's, came out, and went in the direction in which they had come—shortly afterwards Lynch returned and followed I them, reading a newspaper, but I did not see him join them again.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . I am inspector of coin to the Mint—these fourteen florins are bad, and all from the same mould—these three shillings are also counterfeit.

Lynch's Statement before the Magistrate:—"I am guilty of haying them in my possession, but I picked them up in brown paper between Heston and Brentford." LYNCH— GUILTY .**— Five Years' Penal Servitude.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-12
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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12. CHARLES BROWNING (19) , Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.

MR. COLERIDGE conducted the Prosecution.

EDWARD ERRINGTON . I am landlord of the Fountain public-house, New Street, Horselydown—on 11th September, about seven p.m., I served the prisoner with half a pint of half-and-half, which came to 1d.—he gave me a sixpence—I told him it was very bad—he said that he did not think it was; but, as I had taken two precisely like it, I gave him in custody with the sixpence.

RICHARD NEALE (Policeman 380 A R). The prisoner was given into my custody with this sixpence—he was taken to Southwark Police-court, remanded for one day, and discharged—I had to make Inquiries about him.

CHARLOTTE COOK . I am the wife of George Cook, who keeps the Bull, Crown Street, Soho—Mrs. Reed, my mother, was staying with me, and was serving in the bar on 15th October—I saw her serve the prisoner with a pint of half-and-half, which came to 2d.—he gave her a shilling—she gave him the change, put the shilling in the till, and the prisoner left—I then went to the till—there was no other shilling there—I took it out, found it was bad, and gave it to my husband—on 9th October the prisoner came again—I served him—he gave me a shilling, which I thought was not good—I called my husband, gave it to him, and said in the prisoner's presence that it was not good—he said, "It is the same as the one we took on Tuesday—I said, "This is the man who came in on Tuesday and gave us a bad shilling, and he has just given me another."

Prisoner. I was not there on Tuesday. Witness. I am quite positive you are the person.

GEORGE COOK . On 15th October I received a bad shilling from my wife—I put it on a shelf at the back of the bar—on Saturday, 19th October, my wife called me, and said in the prisoner's presence that he was the man who passed the bad shilling on the previous Tuesday, and gave me a shilling—I gave both shillings to the policeman—the prisoner denied being in the house on Tuesday.

PATRICK WINTERS (Policeman 142 A R). I took the prisoner, and produce two shillings which I received from Mr. Cook—he had two shillings and threehalfpence in copper on him.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . These coins are whist-markers defaced, and silvered over to represent sixpences and shillings—they are rubbed down to leave the Queen's head and "Victoria" on them—they are apparently intended to resemble and pass for sixpences and shillings.

GUILTY .— Nine Months' Imprisonment.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-13
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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13. RICHARD WOODGATE (32) , Unlawfully having counterfeit coin in his possession with intent to utter it.

MR. COLERIDGE conducted the Prosecution, and MR. W. SLEIGH the Defence.

MART ANN SMITH . I live in Charles Street, Drury Lane—about half-past one on the morning of November 6 I met the prisoner at the corner of Oxendon Street—he offered me half a crown to go with, him—we went

up Oxendon Street into Orange Street, when he gave me three shillings, and I gave him sixpence change—I did not look at the three shillings till he was going away, and then found they were bad—I told him so, and he said that he had not got such money on him, and that they were not bad—he went away, and I hallooed, "Stop thief!"—I saw him stopped—he was searched at the station—I gave the bad money to the policeman.

EDWARD BESSON (Policeman 178 C). About a quarter to two o'clock on 6th November I heard a cry of "Stop thief!" and saw the prisoner running—I stopped him and asked him what was the matter—he said, "Nothing; it is all right; I am in a hurry"—I said, "I must detain you till somebody else comes"—the prosecutrix came up and said that he had given her three bad shillings, and she had given him a good sixpence in change—he said that it was false; he had not seen her before—I took him to the station—on the way there I heard something drop, turned my light on, and saw a bad shilling at the prisoner's feet—he tried to get away, but I got him to the station, and found in his pocket a cabman's badge, a latchkey, knife, comb, and pocket-book—I heard something rattle, and found in his bosom, between his shirt and his flesh, ten florins, one half-crown, and twenty-nine shillings, all bad; a good sixpence, and three Sadowa medals—the waistband of his trousers was very tight.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . Here are two shillings of 1846, and one of 1865, all bad; and the two of 1846 are from one mould—these ten florins are bad—here are fifteen bad shillings of 1846—several of them are from the same mould as the other two—here are fifteen shillings of 1862, several of which are from the same mould as the one—here is one counterfeit half-crown and three brass coins.

The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate;—"I had a job by the Elephant and Castle, from Whitechapel Church, by three men. I set them down; they paid me. I found the coin in the cab, and had no idea that it was bad."

The prisoner received a good character. GUILTY .— Eighteen Month's Imprisonment.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-14
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > penal servitude

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14. WILLIAM SMITH (40) was indicted for a like offence.

MESSRS. COLERIDGE and STRAIGHT conducted the Prosecution.

JAMES BRENNAN . I am appointed by the Treasury to inquire into these cases—on 4th November, about 11.30, I was going to the Greyhound public-house, and saw Inspector Brennan struggling with the prisoner, who had got him down, in Compton Street—we were obliged to throw the prisoner down, and ultimately he was taken to the station—when there he said, "Are you not going to charge the other gentleman?"—that was a person named Reardon, better known as Barlow—I said, "What gentleman?"—he said, "That man outside?"—I said, "Whatever you say will be used in evidence against you; he is entitled to hear any accusation you make against him"—he was called in, and the prisoner said, "That gentleman I saw put a packet on the seat where he sat; I picked it up and walked out, and while I was walking along I was seized by the inspector, who took it from me; I went into the Greyhound to see a person respecting a dog, and I saw this man (meaning the prisoner, who was discharged) put a packet down on the seat; I picked it up and walked out"—Reardon was searched and detained till Thursday—no bad coin was found on him—I received this coin (produced) from Inspector Brennan.

JAMES BRENNAN (Police Inspector). I went to the Greyhound about 11.30, and shortly afterwards saw the prisoner come out with one hand in his right coat pocket—I followed him to Old Compton Street—he looked right and left, and then undid a tissue paper packet and put something into his left hand and returned the paper to his coat pocket—I stopped him; he struggled so violently that I had to get assistance to throw him down—I then took four counterfeit shillings from his hand, and this piece of tissue paper (produced) from his pocket—I asked him how he accounted for the possession of the bad money—he said, "I picked it up"—I said, "That will not do for me, "and took him to the station—he said that he was sent to the public-house to make inquiries about a dog, saw a man put the parcel on a seat by his side, and he picked it up—that man was afterwards taken, and remanded, and discharged.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . These shillings are bad.

Prisoner's Defence. I picked it up, and went outside and looked at it, and the inspector took it out of my hand.

GUILTY .**— Five Years' Penal Servitude.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-15
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation
SentenceImprisonment; Imprisonment

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15. HARIETTE GREEN (18) and FRANCES KNIGHT (19) , Unlawfully uttering counterfeit, coin.

MESSRS. COLERIDGE and STRAIGHT conducted the Prosecution.

JOSHUA STUBBS . I am assistant at a Spanish wine house, 70, Lower Thames Street—about a quarter to twelve on 1st November I saw the prisoners pass, one leaning on the other's shoulder, and five or ten minutes afterwards Knight came in for a glass of port wine, which came to 3d.—she gave me a half-crown—I had no change in the till, and went next door to get it—I gave her the change, and put the half-crown into a leather bag where there was no other, and she left soon after—I afterwards found it was bad—Green came in goon afterwards for a glass of port wine and paid with a half-crown—I asked her if she had any smaller change—she said, "No"—I said, "I will go and get change"—she said, "Never mind, I will get it"—I went out to see if it was good, and, being told that it was, I gave her the change—I afterwards found it was bad, and put in my pocket with the other—about six p.m. Green came again for a glass of port wine—she gave me a bad florin—I had previously given instructions to my boy Kirby, and handed the florin to him—he went out and brought a policeman, who brought Knight with him, and I gave Green in charge with the half-crown and florin.

Green. Q. Did I not get the half-crown from you? A. No; I never changed any larger piece of money for you than a half-crown—I knew you before.

Knight. Q. You put my half-crown in the till? A. I did not, I put in a sovereign and some coppers.

EDWARD RICHARD KIRBY . I am twelve years old, and am errand boy at the wine shop—on Friday morning 1st November, Green came in for a glass of port wine—my master went out to get change, and put the half-crown in a little leather bag—Green came in at night, and gave a florin to Stubbs—I had been instructed before, and went out to get change—I got a policeman, and saw Knight and a man leaning against the railings—the policeman took them in custody and brought them to the wine shop, and I gave him the coin.

HOULD GODDARD (City Policeman 814). I was on duty, and was sent for to the Spanish Wine Vaults—going there, I saw Knight with a man

named Phipps standing opposite the wine shop, on the other side—they could see across to the shop, but could not see in, because the doors were closed—I asked them what they were doing, the man said, "Nothing"—I took them to the wine shop, where Stubbs accused Green of passing a bad half-crown that morning, which he handed to me—I marked it, and also received a bad florin from Kirby—Stubbs also gave me a half-crown, which Green had uttered—Green said that she had received it from a gentleman—I took them to the station, and the man was discharged at the Mansion House last Tuesday.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . These two half-crowns and this florin are bad.

GUILTY. Recommended to mercy by the Jury. GREEN— Eight Month's Imprisonment. KNIGHT*— Nine Month's Imprisonment.

OLD COURT.—Tuesday, November 19th, 1867.

Before Mr. Recorder.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-16
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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16. ELLEN JAMES (20) JAMES DICKSON (32), and JOHN RICKETTS (20) , Robbery with violence on Edward Bramall, and stealing a scarf and pin, his property.

MR. STRAIGHT conducted the Prosecution.

EDWARD BRAMALL (Policeman 158 A R). On Saturday, the 19th October, about twenty-five minutes to twelve, I was in St. James's Park, in front of Buckingham Palace, in plain clothes—I saw the female prisoner about halfway between Buckingham Gate and the front of the Palace—at that time I had a scarf and a pin, which cost about 35s.—I was in a very sharp walk, as I had to get in before twelve o'clock, and she came up to me and said, "Are you in a hurry, dear?"—I told her to get out of the way, I did not want to be annoyed by her—she kept dodging me backwards and forwards till we got opposite a lamp-post—I passed that into a dark place, where any one who sits can see those who come by, but they cannot be seen, when she instantly made a grab at my scarf and pin, and took my scarf off, with the pin in it—it was a buckle scarf—just as she snapped at it I was knocked down by three men—Ricketts kicked my legs from under me—I can't say where they came from—I had got hold of the woman at the time—I was just turning round—I saw Dickson there—he struck me under the ear during the time that Ricketts was kicking my legs from under me—I was then walking, just turning round to run after the woman—they threw me on the ground—Ricketts got on the top of me—I turned him over, and pulled Dickson down—I got him with his head under my arm, and tried to take him with me while I went after the woman, who was then going away with the other man, who is not in custody—I could not get Dickson along fast enough, so I had to let him go to apprehend her, and when I apprehended her I was instantly knocked down by the man who was with her—Dickson tried to get away all that he could, but he did not punch me or anything of that kind—the two male prisoners ran away, when I apprehended the female with both hands, and the man who is not in custody bit me in the thumb—I was bleeding very much when I got to the station—I tried to detain the man, but could not—I retained the woman till 326 A came up, and I handed her into his custody—I saw the male prisoners again on the Monday week, the 28th, in Short's Gardens, Drury Lane—they shifted from there, and I followed them to the Lyceum Theatre, as 1 had not a constable then—I recognised

them—I then followed them to the Adelphi, in the Strand, where I came in connection with a constable, and apprehended Dickson—he punched me violently in the neck to get away—I told him the charge, he said, "All right, I will go"—I gave him into custody, and took Ricketts myself—I was on plain-clothes duty at the time.

James. Q. Where did you first see me? A. In front of Buckingham Palace: you met me.

Dickson. Q. Did the sentry come to your assistance? A. No; I shouted for him, he was about thirty yards off—I had a distinct view of your face—I am sure of you—if you wore a moustache, it was a very slight one, something like three days' growth—you appeared to be very dirty at the time.

COURT. Q. Did you know either of the prisoners by sight before? A. No.

GEORGE LARCOMBE (Policeman 326 A). I was on duty on Saturday night, 19th October, in St. James's Park, in front of Buckingham Palace—I saw a crowd of people, and went up—Bramall said to me, "Take this woman in charge"—he had got hold of her—I asked what she had done—he said, "She has stolen a scarf and pin from me"—I took her in charge, and searched her, but she had not got the pin—I took her to the station, and returned to my beat, and when I returned I saw Ricketts sitting on a bench handy to St. James's Palace—I should say that would be from thirty to sixty yards from where I took the woman into custody—it was about one o'clock—I should say there were nearly twenty people collected when I took the woman.

The Prisoner's Statements before the Magistrates were read as follows:—James. "I was going along and met the prosecutor running fast; he said he would take me into custody for stealing his scarf. I said I had not been in his company. He said, 'Whether you have been in my company or not, I will give you in charge; you are my prisoner;" Ricketts and Dickson both say, "All I have to say is, I know nothing at all about it, and don't know the other prisoners."

James's Defence. I am entirely innocent; I know nothing more at all about it than an unborn babe.

Dickson's Defence, The. policeman says I did not wear a moustache on this occasion; I have witnesses to prove that I did, and that I have worn it for four years, and that I only shaved it off on the 28th, so that if he did see me on the 19th he must have noticed that I wore a moustache. I know nothing about the young woman or the man here.

Rickett's Defence. I know nothing at all about it; I neither know the man nor the woman; I never saw them before in my life.

Witnesses for Dickson.

ROBERT HANSER . I have known Dickson about five years as a fellowlodger in the same house all that time—when he first came to England he wore a moustache up to the 28th October—it was a large one—I don't know why he had it cut off—that was on the day he was taken—the man who shaved it off is here.

JOHN COOK . I have known Dickson two years—he wore a moustache all the time I knew him, up to the 28th October—I shaved it off—I am not a barber by trade—I lodge in the same house with him—he asked me to take it off—he did not give any reason for it.

Cross-examined. Q. How do you come to recollect this particular Mon-day,

the 28th? A. On account of his being away from home that night—it was the night he was taken into custody—I am sure it was that night.

COURT. Q. What are you? A. A porter at Covent Garden Market—I am in steady work there—I was out at work there for a short time this morning before I came here—I have lodged in the same house with Dickson two years—he has been there longer than that—he is a costermonger, I believe.

GUILTY .— Twelve Month's Imprisonment each.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-17
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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17. JOHN WILLIAMS (31) , Robbery on Frank Lewis Bowers, and stealing a watch, his property.

MR. DALY conducted the Prosecution.

HENRY MOUNTJOY (City Policeman 893). On the 2nd of this month, about one o'clock, as I was going through Bishopsgate Church Yard, I heard a cry of "Murder!" and saw the prisoner struggling with the prosecutor on the pavement—he looked round and saw me coming, and then rose up, and, pointing to the prosecutor, said, "That is the b----that got it"—I said, "What?"—he repeated it—I said, "What do you mean?"—the prosecutor was trying to get up—I went and lifted him up, and the prisoner ran down the churchyard—the prosecutor put his hand to his breast, and said, "Policeman, I have lost my watch"—I gave chase and made a grasp at the prisoner, but missed him—he ran on for three or four doors more, and then dropped the watch on the doorstep—I turned on my light, picked up the watch, and took him into custody—this is it (produced),

FRANK LEWIS BOWERS . I am in the employ of Bowers and Sons, of Wormwood Street—on 2nd of November I was passing through Bishops-gate Church Yard—I saw the prisoner there—he took my watch—we struggled and fell together and a policeman came up—this is my watch—it was safe before I met the prisoner.

Prisoner. Q. Did I strike you? A. No, you used no violence further than struggling to get away.

Prisoner's Statement. All I have to say is, there was no violence of any kind.

GUILTY .— Six Month's Imprisonment,

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-18
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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18. GEORGE BRAINE (59) , Stealing a ring of Thomas West.

MR. LEIGH conducted the Prosecution, and MR. LEWIS the Defence.

THOMAS WEST . I am a jeweller, of 3, Ludgate Hill—on Friday, the 8th November, the prisoner came to my establishment and spoke about a ring that he had seen the night before; he said he should like to see it—I showed him a tray full of rings—he looked at them, but did not touch them—he asked the price of one he had seen the night before—I referred to my book and told him the price—he spoke about an order that ho had mentioned the night before as to some spoons and forks—he had been in several times—he asked me if I would send a ring that he selected on the following morning for his wife to see—he gave me his address, 11, Craven Street—after he was gone I missed a ring, not that ring—I gave directions to my assistant immediately.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you shown him some rings the day previous? A. No, my assistant had—I did not see him then—I had seen him several times, on nearly every occasion that he called, but I had not shown him rings previously—I had shown him other articles—he spoke about diamonds and other things—he said the rings were expensive, and I accounted for that by telling him that the price of diamonds had advanced—that was about two or three days before—he had said he wanted some spoons and talked about having a crest put on them—he said he would bring the impression—he

did not say that he was going to Regent Street, but I think he said he would bring an impression back—he gave his name, "Mr. Braine, 11, Graven Street"—at the time I was showing him the rings he had no handkerchief or anything on the table—I noticed he had nothing.

THOMAS STEADMAN . I am assistant to Mr. West—on the day in question I received certain orders from him—I went to an address that was given me, and I saw the prisoner come out of 11, Craven Street—I watched him, he went to Mr. Whistler's, into the private office, and then to Mr. Attenborough's—he there rang the office-bell and went into the office—I went into the front shop and made some communication to the assistant—I then went into the back room and saw the prisoner, and when he saw me he said the ring belonged to Mr. West—this is the ring (produced), it is Mr. West's property—I received it from Mr. Attenborough's assistant—it is worth 30l.

Cross-examined. Q. Where were you when you saw the prisoner go into Mr. Attenborough's? A. Outside the shop—I did not hear any conversation that took place between him and the assistant—I went into the front shop while he was in the private office—he went into the side door of Mr. Whistler's, the office for pawning; he came out again directly—I should not think he could have had any time for conversation there.

HENRY SULLY . I am assistant to Mr. Attenborough, pawnbroker, of 32, Strand—on this Friday the prisoner came to our shop and produced this ring—he asked me the value of it—I asked him who it belonged to, and he declined to say—he said, "I simply want to know the value of the ring," and he did not think we were gutting a proper question to him—I had previously had some description Of the ring—I called in Mr. Steadman and said, "Is that the gentleman it belongs to?" and he said, "Yes, it is"—nothing further took place—he was given into custody.

Cross-examined. Q. When he came and showed you the ring, did you ask him whether he wished to pledge it? A. I did, and he said no, he only wanted to know the value of it—I then asked him if the ring belonged to him, and he said no, it did not—I then asked him to whom it belonged—he said, "I decline to say, but it is not mine," or words to that effect—I then called in Mr. Steadman, and then the prisoner said the ring belonged to Mr. West.

WILLIAM HENRY MONCTON (Police Sergeant 18 E). I was called to Mr. Attenborough's; the prisoner was given into my custody for stealing a diamond ring—I took him to Bow Street and searched him—I found several letters on him, and a piece of sealing-wax with a crest of a panther on it, and 4 3/4 d. in copper—on the way to the Justice-room next morning he said, "I did not know I had the ring, it came out of my pocket when I pulled out my handkerchief; I did not intend to pawn or sell the ring, but I was curious to know its value."

Cross-examined. Q. You also found on him a 50l. debenture, did you not? A. A 50l. bond in a gold and silver mining company—I have made inquiries about the prisoner—I find he is a person of great respectability, and that he came from China with nearly 400,000l.—I have also found that he did go to a shop in Regent Street to get the impression.


18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-19
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > penal servitude; Imprisonment

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19. JEREMIAH REGAN (17) and EDWIN BURNETT (22) , Stealing a watch and chain of Andrew Reid, from his person.

MR. WOOD conducted the Prosecution; MR. STRAIGHT defended Regan.

ANDREW REID . I live at 25, Rathgar Road, Dublin, and am a civil engineer, at present staying at the Castle and Falcon Hotel, Aldersgate Street—on 9th November I was at the top of Cheapside—there was a great crowd—there were a good number of people by my side, one in particular, Burnett—he was apparently blocking my hat, or trying to do so from behind, and doing something in front at the same time, trying to attract my attention—he snapped my watch out and let it hang—I saw another person, it may have been Regan, with it in his hand, and he passed it behind him—the chain was entangled in his person—I kept hold of it for some time, but ultimately I had to let it go, as it broke—the chain was round my neck—I cried out that I was losing my watch—two policeman came up and seized Regan; I held on to Burnett, the crowd in the meantime trying to trip me up—the prisoners tried to get away, Burnett particularly; he threw himself down—I have not seen my watch and chain since.

Cross-examined. Q. This was Lord Mayor's day, was it not? A. I believe it was, it was the 9th—there were a good many persons about, but the procession had not commenced—there were no persons before me, except the two prisoners—I was at the edge of the pavement, about to cross.

Burnett. I was not there at the first. Witness. I am certain he was.

WILLIAM LAYLAND (City Policeman 643). I was at the barriers in King Street, Cheapside, on the afternoon in question—there was a great crowd of roughs there, bonneting the prosecutor—I rushed to his assistance, and when I got about a foot and a half from him I heard him say, "I have lost my watch"—I looked down at Burnett's hand, and saw a watch and chain in his left hand—he passed it on to Regan, who was on the left-hand side of him, and he passed his hand behind him—there were a good many hands open to receive it, but I could not get at it in time—Regan tried to get away, but I caught him by the collar, and also Burnett—I distinctly saw what was done—the watch was in both their hands—I did not know them before.

The Prisoner's Statements before the Magistrate:—Regan, "I was going to King's Cross. I never was in prison before in my life." Burnett. "I had been to the docks to get a ship going to Australia. I was shoved in the crowd on the top of the prosecutor."

GUILTY . BURNETT was further charged with having been before con-victed, in May, 1866; to this he PLEADED GUILTY.**— Seven Year's Penal Servitude. REGAN— Three Month's Imprisonment.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-20
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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20. WILLIAM THOMAS (22) , Stealing a watch of James Ives, from his person.

MR. BRINDLEY conducted the Prosecution.

JAMES IVES . I am a commercial traveller, and reside at Cambridge Terrace, Pimlico—on Saturday afternoon, the 9th November, I was in Fleet Street at the time the Lord Mayor's show was returning to the City; I felt a tug at my watch chain, the guard dropped against my waistcoat, and I saw the watch passed to the prisoner by a man not in custody—he made off with it—I followed him through the crowd—he fell in the roadway, a sergeant came up, and the prisoner dropped the watch—I saw it fall—it was picked up by a bystander and handed to the constable—this is it (produced).

JOHN TURNER (City Policeman 45). I was in Fleet Street about four o'clock on the afternoon of Lord Mayor's day, and saw the prisoner run through the crowd, and fall in the carriage-way—I picked him up—the

prosecutor came up and told me to hold him fast, as he had got his watch—I saw it fall from his hand into the carriage-way.

GUILTY . He was further charged with having been before convicted, in November, 1865, to which he PLEADED GUILTY.— Eighteen Month's Imprisonment.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-21
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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21. WALTER WHITE (25) , Unlawfully obtaining 3l. from Louisa Needham, by false pretences.

MR. HOUSTON conducted the Prosecution.

LOUISA NEEDHAM . I am the wife of James Frank Needham, and live separate from him, at 56, Gloucester Street, Pimlico—I was at the Promenade Concerts, Covent Garden, one night at the commencement of last summer—I saw the prisoner there—he asked for my address, I gave it him—one Saturday afternoon, about a week afterwards, he called on me in Gloucester Street—he gave me this cheque (produced) for 7l. 10s.—he said he could not afford to give it me all, would I give him some change—I gave him 3l.—I gave the cheque to my landlady to take to the bank, and she afterwards returned it to me.

Prisoner. Q. Did I ask for the 3l. as change out of the cheque; did not I give you the cheque first, and then ask you to lend me three sovereigns? A. I did not understand that—it might have been so—it may have been a mistake—I do not wish to go against him.

JOHANNA NEWNHAM . I keep the house, 56, Gloucester street, Pimlico—the last witness lodges with me—on a Saturday in August she handed me this cheque—I went to present it at the bank in Gannon Street, but there was no such bank—the cheque is on the London and Eastern Banking Corporation—I went to every bank in Cannon Street—they told me there was no such bank there, and I afterwards returned the cheque to my lodger.

NATHAN LEECH (Policeman C 17). I have made inquiries, and can find no such bank as the London and Eastern Banking Corporation—the prisoner was brought to the station on another charge—I said nothing to him about this charge.

Prisoner's Defence. I don't understand enough English to be able to say anything. I can only say I did not intend to defraud this lady.


18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-22
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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22. WALTER WHITE was again indicted for stealing a book and a pair of boots of Annie Dewhurst.

ANNIE DEWHURST . I am a single woman, and live in Seaton Street, Chelsea—I met the prisoner in August last, between Regent Street and Piccadilly—he asked me for my address and I gave it to him—I saw him on the Saturday following, I believe the 17th, at my house—he gave me this cheque for 6l. 10s. (produced) when he left he took away a pair of boots and a book, I supposed with the intention of sending me others—he said he should take them away and send me two pretty pairs, but he never returned them—I did not give them to him—I do not think he took them with any intention of fraud—I met him again about a month afterwards and gave him into custody.


18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-23
VerdictsGuilty > pleaded guilty

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23. WILLIAM ROBY (27) PLEADED GUILTY to stealing 2132 pictures and 1440 metal rings of Solomon Albin, also to stealing 630 pictures of Charles Beckman.— Twelve Month's Imprisonment.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-24
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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24. WILLIAM HEALS (17) , to feloniously forging and uttering an order for 17s.6d., with intent to defraud.— Six Month's Imprisonment. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-25
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment; Imprisonment > other institution

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25. HENRY FULLER (14) ,** to embezzling 11s. 8d. of Frederick William Benton, his master. One Month's Imprisonment, and Three Years in Wandsworth Reformatory ; and, [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-26
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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26. GEORGE PEARCE (21) , to three indictments for stealing bags of William Wodham Cormack and others, his masters.— Fifteen Month's Imprisonment. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]

NEW COURT.—Tuesday, November 19th, 1867.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-27
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceNo Punishment > sentence respited

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27. HENRY LUCKIN (24) PLEADED GUILTY to stealing a tablecloth and other articles, of Mark Hutchinson and another, his masters— Judgment respited.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-28
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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28. JOHN WILSON (39) ,* to breaking and entering the dwellinghouse of John Fletcher, and stealing therein two watches, his property.— Nine Month's Imprisonment. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-29
VerdictsGuilty > pleaded guilty

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29. WILLIAM WILKINSON (33) , to stealing one waistcoat, the property of James Alfred Finney, also one pair of trousers and one waistcoat of the Commercial Clothing Company Limited.— Six Month's Imprisonment. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-30
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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30. GERALDINE MEURICE (33) , Stealing one cloak, the property of John Augustus Nicolay.

MR. POLAND conducted the Prosecution, and MR. RIBTON the Defence.

SELINA JAVAN . I am assistant to John Augustus Nicolay, a furrier, of 82, Oxford Street—in September, 1865, this letter was handed to me; I read it in a hurry, and selected four or five sealskin cloaks, which I took to 17, St. Petersburg Place, Bayswater—some one, who appeared to be a servant, received the goods from me; she had rather a sallow complexion, dark hair, and a cast in one of her eyes—she took the goods into another room, and in a short time brought back four of them, keeping a circular cloak, value eighteen guineas.

KATE SQUIRES . I live at 5, Bedford Place, Rotherhithe—I first knew the prisoner at Binfield Place, Clapham, as Mrs. Somerset, and as Mrs. Morris at the same time—I knew Louisa Frost and Miss Bristowe, who lived with her as servants—Mrs. Frost had one of her eyes fixed, she was lady's maid to the prisoner, and lived with her—she was tall, and her complexion was dark—she lived with the prisoner from December, 1864, to June or July, 1865—I have seen the prisoner write; this letter is her writing, to the best of my belief.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you seen her write frequently? A. No—I do not remember seeing the girl with the fixed eye write, but I know her writing, and will undertake to say that the letter is not hers—I have not said at Marlborough Street that their writing was so much alike that I could not swear which was which—I said so of one letter which was shown to me—I said that I was unable to swear whether it was written by the prisoner or by the girl with the fixed eye—there is perhaps a similarity between the two—I believe this letter to be the prisoner's—if it purported to come from a house where Frost was, and Frost only, and the prisoner had not been mixed up with it in any way, and I was asked, "Is that not the writing of Frost?" I should not answer in the affirmative—I will swear that I do not believe it is Frost's—I have known the prisoner as Mrs. Somerset since December, 1864—I have heard of her for a great

many years, but have not known her—I did not know her living at Woollenhall—I have heard that she was married to Mr. Morris, and was living with him in great luxury and splendour—I know that when they separated he allowed her a considerable income, and she still lived in good style in apartments—she adopted my niece and educated her at some expense, but not at considerable expense.

MR. POLAND. Q. Did she pay the school bill? A. I believe not—her real name is Morris I believe, and not Meurice.

MARY JONES . I know the prisoner, and have seen her write—this letter is her writing, to the best of my belief—I knew her twelve or fourteen years ago, and till within the last two or three years by the name of Morris—she never took any other name to me.

Cross-examined. Q. Was she living at a place called Woollenhall? A. Yes, as Mr. Morris's wife, I believe—that is near Barnet—I do not know whether she was visited by her family, I attended her professionally as nurse, she was suffering from a disease for which I applied leeches—I was only there a few hours, I went in the morning and came back in the evening—she lived in great splendour, and a servant in livery touched his hat to me—I saw Mr. Morris there on one occasion—I know the prisoner was married to him, as I got a copy of the certificate of her marriage for her some time after—they separated for some reason or other about ten years ago, and to the best of my belief Mr. Morris made her a very handsome allowance—I do not know whether she took her original name of Somerset after they separated, she never wrote to me in that name—I have heard that she has taken that name since, but I never heard of it before—her name was Clowes before she was married—she married a Mr. Clowes, and there was a judicial separation—her maiden name was Jones I think, she told me that her mother's name was Jones—the first time I heard her go by the name of Somerset was after she was separated from Mr. Morris—I do not think I have attended her since she has gone by the name of Somerset—I have not seen her for four years till I saw her at Marlborough Street.

MR. POLAND. Q. You never knew her in the name of Somerset? A. No—she told me that her mother was Mrs. Jones, that she married Mr. Jones.

HELEN RUTTERS . In the middle of July this year I saw the prisoner write in this book at the top of the left page (produced).

(Letter read:—"Mrs. Somerset will be obliged by Messrs. Nicolay sending some of the best sealskin mantles for choice, quite loose in shape; nothing like the jackets or fitting to the figure will suit. Mrs. S. is at present confined to her bed by illness, which is the reason she cannot, drive up and select for herself. 17, St. Petersburg Place, Bayswater.")

SELINA JAVAN (re-examined). When the woman brought back the things one was kept, and I had an order to make a sealskin hood, which I afterwards took to 17, St. Petersburg Place, but found that they had gone away—no complaint was made that the goods were not sent in compliance with the letter.

MR. RIBTON contended that this evidence ought not to be received, as the prisoner was never seen, nor was her voice heard; the lady's maid might have acted without instructions and appropriated the article herself.

The COURT received the evidence, as the letter was written by the prisoner, who was proved to live at the house, and no complaint had been made that the goods had not been sent.

MR. POLAND. Q. When you saw this woman with the cast in her eye did you ask to see Mrs. Somerset? A. Yes; but the woman said that she was too great an invalid to see any one—she took the cloaks into another room, and came back and said that the lady had kept the circular cloak at eighteen guineas—she gave me a further order to make a hood of sealskin of a particular design to suit her—I told her it would be ready in three days, and left—I had the hood made, and took it home in four or five days—I saw a light in the hall, and knocked and rang for three-quarters of an hour, but could not get admission—I made inquiries of the neighbours before I left, but was not able to find the prisoner or her serant till I saw her at Marlborough Street—I got no trace of Mrs. Somerset till she was in custody in the present year—this was two years ago last September.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you believe that she was of the Somerset family? A. Yes, Lady Somerset's family, the Beaufort family.

MR. POLAND. Q. You had no idea that her name was Morris? A. I thought she was a respectable lady.

THOMAS EELES . I am superintendent of the Dorset constabulary—I took the prisoner at Swanage, in Dorsetshire, in September this year—she answered to the name of Meurice—a person was living with her who I understood to be her servant, and who was of middle height and had some peculiarity about her eyes—I took possession of what property in the house I believed to belong to the prisoner. I found no sealskin cloaks.

MR. RIBTON contended that there was no case against the prisoner. The cloak was sold, and if Messrs. Nicolay had sent to demand the money next day it would have been for goods sold and delivered, and if the vendor parted with the goods, even on a dishonest contract, it was not a felony, but a false pretence. MR. POLAND submitted that it was for the Jury to say whether the prisoner's original intention in writing for the cloak was a trick to get it into her possession with a view to steal it, and if so it was I larceny. The COURT considered that Miss Javan had the cloaks only for I the purpose of transferring them to Mrs. Somerset, but there being no transfer to Mrs. Somerset, but to Mrs. Morris, that was not a parting with the possession. of them; that it was a question for the Jury whether the prisoner got possession of them at all, and if so, with what object. GUILTY .

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-31
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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31. GERALDINE MEURICE was again indicted for stealing one box, value 3l., of Michael Myers.

MR. POLAND conducted the Prosecution, and MR. RIBTON the Defence.

MARY KEENE . I am the wife of Henry Keene, and am assistant to Michael Myers, a trunkmaker, of 27, Wigmore Street, Cavendish Square—on 27th May the prisoner called in a brougham—I went down to it, and she asked me to let her see some ladies' travelling dress-trunks—I asked her if I should bring them to the carriage—she said yes, as she was such a very great invalid she could not get out—I took some trunks down to her with the porter's assistance, and she selected two, but she required some alterations in them, and the letter "H" painted on them very large, as her Christian name was Harriet—I was to send a receipted bill, as they would be paid for on delivery—she gave her name, Mrs. Frazer, The Cottage, Hampstead, and drove away—on 29th May a tall woman calling herself Mrs. Frazer's maid drove up in the brougham—she had a defect in one of her eyes—she gave me this card (produced) with "Mrs. Frazer" on it—she said that Mrs. Frazer sent

that card, and asked if we would lend her one of our travelling trunks until her own was finished, as she was called out of town unexpectedly—I lent her one, value three guineas—her boxes were to be sent home on the Friday, and this was to be returned—I gave her boxes, with "H" on them, to the porter on the Friday, and the receipted bill—he carried them away and brought them back the same day—I did not see the prisoner again until she was in custody—I heard no tidings of her or of the trunk—I identified a box which was shown to me at Marlborough Street,

ELIZABETH BEVENGTON . I live in Greek Street, Soho—in April and May last I was the landlady of The Cottage, Hampstead, which I let to the prisoner, as Mrs. Frazer, on April 22nd, at 10l. a month—she paid me one month in advance, but I was not paid the second month—I returned from Paris on 28th May, and found the cottage shut up—I had no tidings of the prisoner till she was in custody recently.

HENRY KEENS . I am shopman to Michael Myers, of 27, Wigmore Street, Cavendish Square—at the latter end of May I received two trunks to take to Mrs. Fraser, The Cottage, Hampstead—I went there and found the place closed—I knocked at the door half an hour and received no answer—I made inquiries in the neighbourhood, but was not able to trace her.

THOMAS EELES (Superintendent Dorset Police). I took the prisoner on 7th September at Swanage, where she was living in the name of Mrs. Meurice—I searched two boxes there, and found a quantity of cards with "Mrs. Frazer" on them, but none with the name of Meurice.

GUILTY .— Eighteen Months' Imprisonment.

There were other indictments against the prisoner.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-32
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > penal servitude

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32. CHARLES WOOD (35) , Stealing one purse and 3l. 8s. in money of John Tann, from his person.

MR. COOPER conducted the Prosecution, and MR. MCDONALD the Defence.

JOHN TANN . I am a groom, and live at 14, Bouverie Street, Fleet Street—on 11th October, at a few minutes past ten at night, I was talking to a woman at the corner of Chancery Lane and Fleet Street—I had not known her before—I felt something at my coat pocket, and missed my purse, containing 3l. 8s.—I said, "You have taken my purse," and took hold of her—the prisoner rushed up, and I clearly saw her pass the purse into his hands—I am sure he is the man—it was close by a lamp, and I cannot be mistaken—I called "Police," and he ran towards Temple Bar—I followed him to Bell Yard, and found him stopped by a constable—I had not lost sight of him—this (produced) is my purse and money.

Cross-examined. Q. How long had you been with the woman? A. About ten minutes—I had not been drinking—I suppose she was a woman of the town, but she did not ask to go with her or to give her drink—this was four or five yards from the lamp at the corner—I had never seen the prisoner before—I saw my purse while I was with the woman, because, having once had my trousers pocket cut out, I took my purse out and put it into my right tail pocket with my gloves.

LEWIS SPRINGETT . I am a hairdresser, of 3, Upper Cleveland Street, Euston Road—I saw Tann at the corner of Chancery Lane, grappling with a woman—the prisoner was trying to take her away—I can swear to him—Tann said, "You have taken my purse and given it to the man;" he said, "No, I have not got the purse"—he walked up to Temple Bar,

and then ran, and Tann followed him—he orossed Fleet Street, and went up Bell Yard—I stood two or three yards from where the struggle took place, and picked up this purse, I should think exactly at the spot where the prisoner stood—I waited till the prisoner was brought back, and then told Tann I had found it.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you mean to say that you went back to the very spot? A. I never moved till I picked it up.

SAMUEL MILLER (City Policeman 484). I was in Bell Yard, and heard cries of "Stop thief"—I met the prisoner running, and Tann a few yards behind him—I stopped the prisoner, and Tann said, "I charge this man with taking a purse from a woman, who took it from my coat pocket, in Chancery Lane"—the prisoner said, "I have not got the purse," and offered to be searched—I told him he must come to the station, where he would be searched—he tried to get away—I threw him on the ground, got assistance, and took him to the station—he gave a false address.

GUILTY . He was further charged with having been before convicted, at this Court, in the name of Charles Frost, in November, 1862, to which he PLEADED GUILTY.**†— Seven Years' Penal Servitude.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-33
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment; Imprisonment > penal servitude

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33. JOHN MAHONEY (23) and WILLIAM BELL (33) , Burglariously breaking and entering the dwellinghouse of Jacob Rosen, with intent to steal.

MR. JUNNER conducted the Prosecution, and MR. CUNNINGHAM.

Defended Mahoney.

JACOB ROSEN . I am a capmaker, of 46, Cannon Street, St. George's-in-the-East—on 3rd November I shut up my house—the doors and windows were safe at 11.30—I was awoke at twenty minutes to three by my servant crying, "Master, master, get up; there are burglars"—I opened the front window and called "Police"—I opened my bedroom door, and found that other doors were open—one of two boxes was broken open, and the things strewed about the room, the window of which was open—I looked out and saw one of the prisoners descending a ladder—I went down stairs, opened the middle room door and the shop door, and found Mahoney in custody in the street, next door to my house—the second box had been tried to be forced, but they had not succeeded.

Cross-examined. Q. Were any of the things taken away? A. No—the top box had not been locked—the house has only one storey—the man I saw in custody was the one I saw going down the ladder, because he had a light coat on.

MARY TOWNSEND . I am the prosecutor's servant—on 3rd November, early in the morning, I was disturbed, and found the two prisoners inside my room with a light in their hand—I am sure they are the men—I screamed for my master, and called "Police;" they put the light out, and ran out at the back window—I heard a smash of glass, but cannot say what it was.

Cross-examined. Q. How long were they in the room after you saw them? A. Not a second—they had a kind of small candle, not a dark lantern—I had only a glance at them for a second, but saw the light coat of the one and the light trousers of the other, by which I identify them.

MR. JUNNER. Q. Did you see the general appearance of the men? A. Yes, one had a blue cap on—I am quite certain, from their general appearance, that these are the men.

ROBERT SMITH (Police Sergeant K 47). I was passing Mr. Rosen's

house, heard a cry of police, and saw Bell come out of the next house, which was unoccupied—I followed him a little way with another sergeant—he ran and we ran—I told 179 K to follow him, and then returned to the unoccupied house, stood in the road four or five minutes, and saw Mahoney come out of the unoccupied house, the door of which had been left; open by Bell—I called to him to stop, but he ran a hundred yards—I called to a constable, who turned his light on and stopped him, and I took him to Mr. Rosen's, where Mary Townsend identified him—I found a ladder from the yard of the unoccupied house to a window of Mr. Rosen's house, the first floor back—the two houses are flush at the back, and there is a party-wall between them—it was a very long ladder, and it was put askew—I went to the house and found articles lying about the floor—Bell wore a blue cap—the back door of the unoccupied house was open.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you say that you saw Mahoney come out of the house? A. Out of the unoccupied house, which was open front and back—there was no other person in the street—there were boards nailed up at the window, but anybody could get over them, and then into the yard—I found no housebreaking instruments on Mahoney, but there were a quantity of matches on the window of the room where the ladder was—I did dot find a candle or a light—I did not lose sight of Mahoney—I am positive of him.

Bell. You never saw me come from the house at all, I was sitting on the doorstep—I had been drinking.

NEHBMIAH SHEERING (Policeman 179 K). I followed Bell from Denmark Street—he placed himself in a doorway, where I took him and took him back to the house.

BELL— GUILTY .— Nine Months' Imprisonment. MAHONEY— GUILTY . He was further charged with having been convicted at Clerkenwell in the name of Thomas Smith, to which he PLEADED GUILTY.**— Seven Years' Penal Servitude.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-34
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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34. THOMAS JONES (30) , Stealing one watch of John McCondrey from his person.

MR. WOOD conducted the Prosecution, and MR. DALY the Defence.

JOHN MCCONDREY . I am an apprentice to F. and R. Morley, ware-housemen, of Cheapside—on 1st November, about a quarter to ten o'clock, I was at a fire at Bishopsgate Street—the prisoner stood on my left hand—I felt my chain being pulled, I put down my hand, and caught the prisoner by the wrist; he was just withdrawing his hand from my waistcoat with my chain in it—my watch was gone—I saw it at the station—I said to my friend, "This man has my watch n—the prisoner said, "I have not got it, that man over there has it"—I looked to my right and saw a man going through the crowd who looked at me several times—my watch was quite separate from my chain when I saw part of my chain in the prisoner's hand—my watch was worth 6l.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you any idea what became of your watch? A. I thought he had passed it to another person—I do not know why he should not pass the chain as well—my watch was brought to me on the way to the station by a boy—the prisoner made no efforts to get away—he said, "That man has it."

MR. WOOD. Q. How far off at that time was the man who he said had the watch? A. Five or six yards, and the crowd was all round me.

JAMES NEWBURT . I am a fellow-apprentice of the last witness—I was standing by him at the fire, and he told me the prisoner had his watch—he was holding the prisoner by the wrist—I saw him given in custody—he said that he had not taken it, another man had taken it—I saw the chain half in the prisoner's hand and half in the prosecutor's.

HENRY LINES . I was in the crowd and picked up the watch, I fell on my knees to get it—I gave it to the constable, and saw the prisoner being taken to the station.

EDWARD MITCHELL (Police Sergeant). I was clearing the mob away for the fire-engines to come up, heard a cry of "Police!" and saw Newbury and the prosecutor holding the prisoner—I caught hold of him, and he was just dropping a chain from his hand—a boy brought me the watch, which I have had ever since—the prisoner said that he did not do it, another man did it.

GUILTY .— Six Months' Imprisonment.

OLD COURT.—Wednesday, November 20th, 1867.

Before Mr. Baron Channell.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-35
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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35. JOHN PRIEST was charged on the Coroner's inquisition only with feloniously killing and slaying Thomas Fisher.

MR. PALMER, for the Prosecution, offered no evidence on the inquisition, the Grand Jury having ignored the bill. NOT GUILTY .

NEW COURT.—Wednesday, November 20th, 1867.

Before Mr. Justice Byles.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-36
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > penal servitude

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36. RICHARD MORRIS (42) , Feloniously attempting to set fire to his house with intent to detraud. Messrs.

METCALFE and LEWIS conducted the Prosecution, and MR. RIBTON the Defence.

WILLIAM YATES . I live with my father at 3, Green Bank, St. George's-in-the-East, two doors from the Turk's Head, which is kept by the prisoner—it is not far from Ratcliff Highway—on the Sunday in question I saw three children leave the house—I do not know the time, but it was three or five minutes before the fire—after they had gone the prisoner went out of the house at the door in Bird Street, and went in the same direction as the children—that is the front door; he locked it, and took the key with him—I was standing by the lamp-post opposite the house—the street is a little wider than from you to me—in three or five minutes I saw smoke coming from the window below, level with the ground, and heard like some bottles fall on the floor, level with the ground, and smash—there was a pretty fair smash—I ran to see if I could see Mr. Morris in the direction he took, but I could not; I went back, got over our back wall into his yard, and saw three or four people in his yard—I assisted in getting some water—my father went into the cellar first, and I went in with the fireman and another man, and found this parcel of gunpowder lying between two casks in a brown bag—the two casks were close together—I did not notice any appearance of burning—I called the fireman's attention to the powder—this is it, but this is not the paper.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you the first who saw the powder? A. Yes, as far as I know—my father and two or three gentlemen had gone in

before me—fireworks are prepared a long time before 5th November, but I had none this time—I had been in the bar before, but not in the cellar.

JOHN TOWZELL . I am a stevedore, and at this time lived at 3, Green Bank, two doors from the prisoner—on Sunday, 13th October, about four o'clock, I heard an explosion—I went to the front door, and saw the boy Yates outside, and smoke coming from all the windows of the Turk's Head—I got over the paling, which are nine feet high altogether with the bank on which they stand, and went down the yard; the back door was open, and I went in—I saw the cellar door open, and flames coming from a spirit cask in the cellar—there was no appearance of burning anywhere else—there was nobody in the house—I was the first that went in—the cellar door was broken in two pieces—it is a wooden door—one board, on which the lock was, was burst off and burnt in two—it had fallen outwards—I got some water, and put the flames out, and found some bung cloth, light canvas on fire; it was between two casks of spirits—there was not a great quantity of them; they were all taken afterwards and put into a tub—there was no blaze from the bung cloths, only fire—as far as I could see, there was nothing else but the blaze of the spirits—the casks were not burning, the cock was a quarter turned, and the rum was running from the cask—after I put the flames out I discovered a brown paper bag of powder on top of a beer cask which was about six feet from the spirit cask—there was a smell of gunpowder and spirits—the gas was not on, the fireman came in and lit the gas in the cellar—the flame coming from the spirit cask was six or seven inches high.

Cross-examined. Q. Was the door of the cellar open? A. Yes, it seemed to have been broken open from the inside—the lock was wrenched off from the inside, and the back door was open—I saw a hole in the bagatelle-room, communicating with the cellar—I do not think anybody could drop through it into the cellar—it was not big enough to admit me.

CORNELIUS SUTTON (Policeman K 301). I went to the Turk's Head at a few minutes after four, it may have been ten minutes—I got in through the tap-room window and saw a coal fire in the grate—I went to the top of the cellar and found the door broken open, and the lock lying on the floor: not on the cellar side, but on the other side, in the passage—I saw Towzell there—there was a smell like mixed spirits, and a great smoke; you could scarcely see, and it was enough to take your breath away—I threw some water down, and then went down into the cellar and saw a little flame coming from some bung cloths which were in the centre of the cellar—I helped to pick them up and put them in a tap-tub—on one barrel, just under the stairs, was a paper packet with gunpowder in it, and there was a packet laid underneath the cellar steps, about a foot and a half from the other barrel—I went over the premises, but found no one there except those who were assisting me—the prisoner came about five o'clock, and I said, "Mr. Morris, there has been afire in the cellar, and there has been some gunpowder found"—he said if any was found there somebody put it there out of spite, and that he had locked the place up before he went away and had got the cellar key, and he showed it to me—I told him that the rum was running—he said that it was not running when he went out.

COURT. Q. Did you see any broken bottles in the bar? A. Yes, three white glass bottles, as if they had had liquor in them—they were larger than quarter-pints; they looked as if they had just fallen from the shelf.

WILLIAM WITHERS . I am foreman of the Salvage Corps, and live at 14,

Wellclose Square—I am over the whole of the fire offices in London—on 13th October, about twenty-five minutes to five, I went to these premises, went into the cellar, and noticed a quantity of smoke—I saw that some bung cloths had been burning, and some rum had been running from a cask—the bung cloths smelt strongly of rum—my attention was drawn to two packets of powder on some casks—I found 1lb. 6oz. in the two packets—this bag (produced) had been exploded, so that I was obliged to take it out and put it into another paper—I picked up the packet with the name on it off the barrel; that had not exploded—the other, which had been exploded, was picked up afterwards; Sergeant Proctor gave it to me—the smell was like an explosion of powder—I went to the house between seven and eight in the evening, and asked the prisoner where he was insured—he said in the Royal Fire-office, for 550l.—I asked him how he accounted for the powder I being on the cask in the cellar below—he said that he could not account for it unless he had some friends about him who owed him a spite—I asked him what that hole in the bagatelle-room was, near the bagatelle board—he said that they must have come in from the back entrance, and gone down that hole into the cellar—I asked him how much rum he thought he had in his cask—he said that he thought it was about half full—I said, "That will be for you and the surveyor to settle in the morning"—I told him I would leave a man all night for safety, and if he heard of anything to let me know—he said that his wife had gone to Stratford, some of his children were at school and some at church, and that when he left the house there was no one there at all—these (produced) are some of the bung cloths, more than an ordinary tub full were picked up and put in a tap-tub, more than thirty—I did not see them till they were in the tub—pieces of paper were mixed with them, as there are with this; they were wet with rum and water.

Cross-examined. Q. What was the size of the hole in the bagatelle-room? A. About seventeen inches by fourteen—it is a trap for shooting coals or coke into the cellar below, and is big enough for an ordinary-sized man to go through—it is a communication with the spirit cellar—the cellar door opens outside—I have not got the lock here, one or two days afterwards it was put into a fresh piece of wood and put on the door again—the bung cloths were not packed up till a fortnight afterwards, they remained in the tub—the prisoner was given in custody in a few days—the business went on as usual on the Monday—I do not know whether he served in the bar.

WILLIAM PORT . I am sub-engineer of the Metropolitan Fire Brigade—I got to the premises about twenty-five minutes to five, and went into the cellar—the gas was not alight, the cock was about half on, and the gas was escaping.

EDWARD GAMBLE (Policeman 49 K). On 14th October I had a conversation with the prisoner, and wrote it down at the time—this is it—I asked him if the powder could be placed in the cellar from the street; he I said, "No"—I said, "If not, how could it be done?"—he said that he did not know—I said, "Was the house closed at three p.m. on the Sunday?"—he said, "Yes"—I said, "Who was the last person in the house?"—he said, "A man named Saxton"—I asked him if he had lately discharged a potman; he said, "No"—I said, "Has your son bought any powder, or any one else in the house?"—he said, "No, there was no powder in the house"—I said, "Who was the last person in the cellar?"—I he said, "I was, I went to draw a pint of bitter ale"—I said, "Was the back door left open?"—he said, "No; it was fast"—I said, "Was the front door fastened when you went out?"—he said,"Yes, no person was in

the house, my wife and family went to the other house, in Old Gravel Lane, at four p.m., and returned at five minutes to five, and I am certain some one must have been concealed in the house"—that was all the conversation—I examined the hole in the bagatelle-room, it was seventeen inches by fourteen—the room goes up a step or two from the ground floor—there was sand on the floor, which appeared as if no one had entered the room—no person could have entered without removing the sand from the ledge where the doors fit into.

Cross-examined. Q. Was the trap shut or open when you saw it first? A. Open—that was on the Monday—I do not know when it was opened—there is like a groove where the flap fits in to prevent it slipping through, and there was sand on the ledge, which would have been removed if a person had gone down that way—a quantity of sand lay there quite fresh, which had not been touched—that was at eight o'clock on Monday morning—the floor had not been sanded that morning that I know of.

ROBERT HASLER . I am assistant to Mr. Kenterman—I have known the prisoner by sight about nine months—about three weeks before the fire he came to the shop and inquired the price of our coarse gunpowder—I told him 1s. a pound—I had not so much in the shop, and had to go to the shop to get it; when I came back I had rather more than 11b. in the bag—he said, "Never mind, let me have 1 1/2 lb."—I asked him if he was going to get ready for November 5th—he said, "Yes, I am going to make some crackers"—I also sold him one pennyworth of saltpetre.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you the only person in the shop? A. At the time—I packed up the gunpowder in a brown paper bag, which I have not seen since—it is neither of these produced, it had no name on it—we sell very little powder, because we do not keep the sort they use to make fireworks of—I have never sold such a large quantity, only halfpennyworths and pennyworths—we never enter anything in books—I had never spoken to the prisoner before, but I knew him by sight—I have seen him pass repeatedly, but knew nothing about him—I did not mention this at all, but a sergeant came to inquire, and I was not in at the time—he inquired of the other shopman, and afterwards came and asked me to give a description, and I did so—he said, "Should you know the man again?"—I said, "Yes, be cause I have seen him repeatedly about Thomas Street, where I used to live"—they took me to a public-house in Old Gravel Lane, and said, "Is there any man here you know, who is like the man who bought the powder?" and I said that I knew the man behind the bar—the prisoner has two houses, the Red Lion and the Turk's Head—that was the Turk's Head—I had not heard of the fire at the Turk's Head—I had no knowledge of what I was going about—he came to the shop for. Me after I had done work—it was I think on the Wednesday after the fire—he came to inquire at my employer's, and asked me if I should know the man again—I said, "Yes," and he asked me to go with him—he did not tell me where we were going—it was ten minutes' walk—we talked going along about matters that pass every day, and when we got to the Red Lion he asked me to look in and see if there was a man resembling the man who bought the gunpowder—I said that the prisoner resembled him—he was taken in custody, and I was taken down to King David Lane first, and in the afternoon I went before the Magistrate—the policeman did not say, "Here is a man that you know"—he said, "Is there any man here like the man who bought the gunpowder?"—there were two or three people in the shop, but only the prisoner and a woman behind the bar—the prisoner

did not tell me who I was going to see, but I believed it had reference to the powder—I knew I was going to identify the man who bought the powder—I did not know that there had been an explosion at the Turk's Head, or on what errand I was going—I had never heard the reason I was to discover the man who bought the powder, and I did not ask.

MR. LEWIS. Q. Before you went to the Bed Lion had you given a description to the constable? A. Yes; I have no doubt that the prisoner is the man to whom I sold the powder—I swear he is the man.

COURT. Q. Look at that gunpowder; is that the sort you sold? A. I cannot make out, unless it has been wetted, and there is a lot of powder among it; there are grains of the same quality in it, but the bulk has been wetted, it is like soot now.

CHABLES VERNON YOUNG . I am the solicitor for the prosecution—on 16th November I served on the prisoner a notice, of which this is a copy (produced) to produce his policy.

EDWIN GEORGE PARKER . I was acting for my father as agent to the Royal Fire Insurance Office—on 2nd February, 1867, the day it bears date, I received this proposal from the prisoner for 550l. on his household goods, stock, fixtures, and trade utensils.

HARRY JONES . I am an auctioneer, of the Commercial Road—on 11th November I was instructed by Mr. Young, the solicitor for the prosecution, and went over the prisoner's premises to value the stock—I valued a portion of it, and had got to the third room, when Mrs. Morris and an adviser of hers came forward, and we were not allowed to continue—there was a distress put into the premises in May last, but I did not put it in.

JOHN JAMES TEVAN . I am a member of the Salvage Corps—I received orders to stay at the Turk's Head all Sunday night—I asked the prisoner if he had any idea how the powder came into the place—he said no, he never bought any powder, and had no idea it was on his place.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you see any children come home from church that evening? A. No—I saw two of them at the house in the evening—I first saw them at ten o'clock—I was not there before.

MR. METCALFE. Q. Did Withers remain till you came? A. No—he sent me—nobody was there when I went.

MR. RIBTON to WILLIAM YATES. Q. Did you see the children or any of them returning from church? A. I saw two boys come in—I do not know the time, but as soon as the house was opened; one came in after the fire and one at the fire—I do not know whether that was about tea time.

COURT. Q. Did you hear any noise or explosion? A. All the explosion I heard was the bottles falling on the floor—I did not hear the gunpowder burst—the cellar is under the bar—the first indication I had was the smoke.

THOMAS PROCTOR (Police Sergeant 60 K). On 21st October I took the prisoner at the Turk's Head—I told him I should take him on suspicion of attempting to set fire to the Turk's Head with gunpowder—he said, "Oh!"—two or three minutes afterwards he said, "Who has done this for me?"—said, "From inquiries that have been made"—when we were in Bird Street he asked the charge against him again, and I repeated it.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you apprehend him after the young man identified him? A. Yes—it was to me he gave the description of the man who bought the powder—he said a stoutish man, with a lightish old brown coat and a round billycock or deerstalker's hat—I asked him if he

should know the man again if he saw him—he said, "Yes"—I took him to the Red Lion, and asked him if he saw the man there—that was the only place I took him to.

MR. METCALFE. Q. Were there other people there? A. I believe there were several others in front of the bar—I did not go in, but I saw several—he went inside, and when he came out he said, "The person I sold the powder to is behind the bar."

MR. METCALFE to ROBERT HASLER. Q. What description did you give to the police of the man who sold the powder? A. A man of middle height—he asked me if he had whiskers—I said he had little or no whiskers—he said, "Is his hair dark?"—I said, "No"—he said, "Did he have any marks about his face?"—I said, "I cannot say"—he asked me if I should know him again—I said, "Yes"—when I was taken to the Turk's Head I saw other people at the bar, not more than two or three—I recognised him.

COURT to CHARLES SUTTON. Q. Did you find the lock? A. Yes, lying on the floor at the top of the stairs—the cellar door is at the top of the stairs—the lock was on the passage side, not on the stairs; it was lying on the outside of the door, in the passage—it was a very large lock, not a padlock—it was fastened on the side next the cellar, not on the passage side.

JURY. Q. Could any one escape from the cellar by the flap? A. No; the lock fastened into the door-post.

GUILTY .— Ten Years' Penal Servitude.

THIRD COURT.—Wednesday, November 19th, 1867.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-37
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty; Not Guilty > directed

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John Doyle was further charged with having been before convicted, to which he PLEADED NOT GUILTY.

WILLIAM KING (Policeman B 93). I produce a certificate of the prisoner's conviction in 1851—I was present at the trial, and then proved a former conviction against him—the prisoner is the same person—in January, 1847, he was charged with stealing lead from Chelsea Common, and afterwards tried at this Court for stealing a copper, but was acquitted on account of a flaw in the indictment.

Prisoner. I was in the Crimea in 1855, in the British service, and came home in 1856. I am innocent of the conviction.

NOT GUILTY of being before convicted.— Twelve Months' Imprisonment.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-38
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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MR. DALY conducted the Prosecution, and MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS the Defence. GUILTY .— Two Years' Imprisonment.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-38a
SentenceNo Punishment

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FOURTH COURT.—Wednesday, November 20th, 1867.

Before Mr. Recorder.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-39
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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40. JOHN IRVING (28) , Stealing 221b. of lead and three ball-taps, of Robert Ramsay, fixed to a building.

MR. SLEIGH conducted the Prosecution.

ROBERT RAMSAT . I live at 36, Beech Street—on the evening of the 13th November, between half-past eight and a quarter to nine, I was going down stairs, and when I had got to the first floor, which opens out on to the leads, I saw a man stooping down by the sides of the waterpipes—I looked farther out, and saw him wrenching the pipe from between the water closet and the first butt—it is a pipe that leads into the watercloset—I am positive he was forcing it out—I said, "What are you doing there?"—he walked into the house, and I caught him by the collar—I said, "You shall not go from me"—he tried to throw me over the staircase; he made a rush down stairs—he left his cap on the stairs—I left him in charge of three others and went and got a constable, and afterwards came back to see what damage was done—the supply taps, cocks, and pipes were gone—the damage done would amount to about 3l.—I had seen it about an hour and a half before, all safe—the prisoner at first shammed intoxication, but was evidently not so—he must have got into the house 'first from the street-door, and then have gone on to the landing, and then on to the leads—he had no business there.

GEORGE GORDON (Policeman 129). I took the prisoner into custody on 13th November—I found the pipes produced, lying on the leads at the prosecutor's house—one had been cut off, and the other wrenched off—they exactly fit to the remaining pipes—I tried them—I afterward found these three other pipes—the prisoner resisted me very much—it took five or six to assist me in getting him to the station, and a large mob of roughs collected.

The prisoner, in his defence, stated that he was very much intoxicated, and went into the house by mistake. GUILTY . He farther PLEADED GUILTY to a previous conviction, in March, 1862.**— Seven Years' Penal Servitude.

OLD COURT.—Thursday, November 21st, 1867.

Before Mr. Baron Channell.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-41
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41. EDWIN FRANCIS HILL (36) , Feloniously forging and uttering a power of attorney to transfer 100l. Consols, with intent to defraud.

MESSRS. POLAND and STRAIGHT conducted the Prosecution, and MR. METCALFE the Defence.

EDWARD THOMAS SEALY . I am a solicitor, of 64, Lincoln Inn Fields—I produce a marriage settlement, dated 29th November, 1849—I am the attesting witness to the signatures of all the parties who executed it—it relates to Mary Ann Bartlett's marriage with Edwin Francis Hill—the trustees are Francis Canning Hill and John Gethin Bartlett—it was a settlement of Mary Ann Bartlett's share of a freehold estate, or of her separate portion for life, then to the prisoner, and then to the children—the annual income to her for life, for her separate use during the joint lives of the husband and wife, and after the decease of either of them, to the survivor, and then to the children; and there is a proviso that if Edwin Francis Hill became bankrupt or insolvent, the income shall go to the children; the fund to the children absolutely, in default of appointment by the husband or wife, who have the power of appointment; and in default of appointment, to all the children absolutely—there is a clause stating that there is no power of anticipating, and the wife's receipts are to be shown—it is for her separate receipts, and not in any mode of anticipation—it also says that it shall be lawful for the trustees to advance not more than 300l. on loan to Edwin Francis Hill, at 5l. percent interest, and I have no doubt there is a power to call in the loan—I produce a deed of 1st May, 1851—I am the attesting witness to the signatures of all the parties except Mr. Francis Canning Hill's, which my clerk attested.

COURT. Q. Is there any power to change the trustees? A. Yes, it says, that "It shall be lawful for the said Mary Ann Bartlett and Edwin Francis Hill, if there be no trustee, By deed legally executed, to appoint a trustee in the room of trustees dying or being incapable of acting, and to increase the number of trustees; and the funds shall be vested in the names of the new trustees"—that is executed by the husband and wife, and by John Gethin Bartlett, one of the trustees; I saw them execute it—the father did not execute it.

MR. POLAND. Q. The deed of 1851 appoints Matthew Bartlett trustee, in the room of Mr. Hill? A. Matthew Thomas Bartlett—I am the agent to Messrs. Tucker and Forman, of Chard, solicitors—I received this letter from them, dated 14th August, 1867—I do not know whether it is in the prisoner's writing.

MATTHEW THOMAS BARTLETT . I am a commercial traveller, and live at Merton Cottage, Red Hill—the prisoner married my sister Mary Ann Bartlett in 1849, and in May, 1851, I became one of her trustees under the marriage settlement—my brother, John Gethin Bartlett, was my cotrustee—the prisoner went to Australia with his wife about fifteen years ago, three or four years after the marriage; I am not certain; it was after I became trustee, not before: I make a mistake.

EDWARD THOMAS SEALY (re-examined). This gentleman (Mr. Matthew Thomas Bartlett) became trustee by being appointed in the place of Francis Canning Hill.

MR. POLAND to MATTHEW THOMAS BARTLETT. Q. How soon after you became trustee did they go to Australia? A. Before they were married in 1849; the marriage settlement was drawn out and signed in this country—they did not go at the time of their marriage; both their children were born in this country—I cannot say when the marriage was, I was not present—they went to Australia about four or five years after I became trustee—as trustee, I received dividends, and sent them to my

sister regularly since October 1865; but since the prisoner has been in this country I gave all the dividends to him, except the last—at the date of her marriage my sister had 500l., but more was drawn out—when the affairs were settled the property was sold, and some money was put into the Bank of England; I cannot recollect the year—I should say that the prisoner came to this country perhaps sixteen months ago, but he was some months before he came to my house—after the property was sold I, and no one else, used to receive the dividends at the Bank of England, except the last—I used to pay them to the Australian Banking Company, Threadneedle Street, to the credit of Mary Ann Hill—after the prisoner came over to this country I paid him three dividends; I drew two and received one afterwards—he signed these three receipts (produced) for them. (These were dated September 9th, 1866, for 19l. 11s.; 16th January, 1867, for 9l. 15s. 6d., both of Matthew Thomas Bartlett; and 24th September, for 9l. 15s. 6d., of John Gethin Bartlett, half-yearly dividends on 662l. 14s. 3d., Consols. Signed E. F. Hill.)

COURT. Q. Did you receive those dividends at the Bank? A. Yes, and the prisoner was with me each time—they are made out in different names, because I refused to draw the last dividend for him, or to have anything more to do with him, and then he went to my brother John, who drew the last dividend for him.

MR. POLAND. Look at that letter of 14th August, 1867; is that in the prisoner's writing? A. Yes. (This was from the prisoner to W. Tucker, Esq.,. dated 14th August, 1867, 14, Camden Road, stating that, as he required 100l., he did not think there could be any objection to 100l. stock being drawn out with Mrs. Hill's consent, on his insuring his life for the amount, so that it could be replaced after his death.) It is full six months ago since the prisoner first spoke to me about selling out 100l. worth of stock—he asked me to do so, and I told him that I could not see it at all—he then wrote to Messrs. Tucker and Forman, of Chard, and had the papers sent there—I also wrote to them to see what could be done, and got this letter from them, which I believe I showed the prisoner, to show him that I could not be made safe—I then received this letter from the prisoner, it is written by him. (This was dated 30th August, 1867, from the prisoner to Mr. M. T. Bartlett, stating that he would come' down to-morrow afternoon and have a chat about drawing out the money.) On 1st September I sent the prisoner this letter. (This was from M. T. Bartlett to the prisoner, stating that he did not see how he could secure himself even by a life policy, and had not had any letter from his sister saying that he could do so.) On the 19th September I received this letter from the prisoner. (This was dated 18th September, 1867, stating, "Polly is extremely anxious to know what has been done about the 100l., and, as I am anxious to tell her by the next mail that leaves, will you instruct Mr. Tucker what has been done? It is really very hard of you to keep us so long in suspense.") On the 19th I received this letter from the prisoner. (This acknowledged a letter from witness, and expressed surprise at his request to inspect the private letters of the prisoner and his wife.) On 23rd September I wrote this letter to the prisoner:—"Dear Hill,—I must decline doing anything as regards the 100l., not being able in any way to be secured. I have enclosed Polly's authority, and if you like to go to the expense of appointing another trustee in my place I shall be glad by your giving me a proper release." This is the paper I enclosed in that letter—the prisoner never showed me any letter from my sister relating to this authority—in October I received a letter from the Bank of England, dated the 9th—in consequence of that

I went to the Bank on the Saturday after; I was out on my journey at the time it came—I returned on the Saturday, and then went to the Bank, where I was shown this power of attorney. (This was dated 28th May, 1867, and purported to be an authority from Mary Ann, the wife of Francis Hill, to the trustees, to lend to him 100l. out of the money standing in the names of the said trustees in the books of the Bank of England, upon his effecting an assurance on his life for 100l. and depositing the policy with the trustees; it was signed Mary Ann Hill, and witnessed by John Deering, Little Cremorne Street.) Until I saw that power of attorney at the Bank of England I was not at all aware of its existence—this signature, "Matthew Thomas Bartlett," is not my handwriting; it is a good imitation, but it is not the character, the flourish is not quite correct; it has no doubt been copied from a letter or something of that sort—I never gave the prisoner, or any one, authority to sign that document—I never consented to the sale of 100l., a portion of my sister's stock—I have lived at Red Hill sixteen years, and never knew such a man as Henry Smith, a gardener, Station Road, Red Hill, who appears as the attesting witness—the prisoner never told me what he intended to do with the 100l.

Cross-examined. Q. When you received the dividends at the Bank, did you give a receipt? A. I signed the book for myself and brother—I was the receiver, there was no written authority from my brother that I should sign the Bank-books—we are joint trustees, and I signed—I wrote my own name, not for "self and brother"—I am quite sure of that—my brother received the last dividend—I bad not seen him for two years before this affair was found out—I had not written to him or received letters from him—there was no cause of quarrel between us that I am aware of—I do not know that the prisoner has raised money and sent it out to his wife.

JOHN GETHIN BARTLETT . I keep the Hare and Hounds public-house. North Woolwich Road—the prisoner married my sister—I am one of the trustees under the marriage settlement—they were married in 1849, and went to Australia about February, 1851, I think—about September, 1866, I saw the prisoner, when he returned from Melbourne—I did not see him again till the following September, it may hate been the latter end of August or the beginning of September, I don't know which—he then asked me if I should have any objection to the transfer of 100l. stock—he said he wanted to send it to my sister to bring her home from Melbourne—I said I had no objection to it, provided my brother consented—he said he should see my brother and get his consent—he dictated a letter for me to write to my brother—I have more than one brother, but that is the only one that I ever see—Matthew Thomas is my co-trustee—this is the letter I wrote at the prisoner's dictation: "28th August, 1867. Dear Matthew,—Hill has called on me to-day and shown me a letter from Mr. William Tucker to you of the 28th instant, and I really do not see any objection to the 100l. being advanced, provided Hill insures his life, as I think that Mary Ann and Hill are sufficiently honest to be relied on for the due payment of the premiums on the policy of insurance. I feel sure Mary Ann will act up to whatever she agrees to, and will not repudiate the authority she has signed." About the beginning of October or November the prisoner told me that he had got my brother's consent—he said he would go to the Bank of England and get a power of attorney to transfer the stock—he said he was going to send 75l. to Australia to bring his wife home, and hoped to see her sitting in her own chair in February

or March next in her own home comfortable and happy—I afterwards received this power of attorney by post—it was not then signed in any way—I think I received it on the 10th October—I saw the prisoner that day, he called on me directly after I had received it—I showed it to him, and he pointed out to me where to sign my name on it—he said we must have a witness, and my wife spoke to Mr. Turvey about it—I was not present at the time; I believe he gave his consent—I signed it first—this is where I signed it, on the back—the prisoner was present when I did it—my wife wrote the name of Turvey as the witness, that was at the same time when the prisoner was present—she signed it because Mr. Turvey could not write—he wished her to do it—he was not present at the time, he was away on his business—the prisoner asked him to do it—he said she would do as well as any one else—after my wife had signed it the prisoner took it away with him, put it in an envelope, and wished me good morning, and said he was going to Bed Hill with it—before that he had asked me to sign the power of attorney for my brother—I declined to do it—he said, "If I was to sign it for Mat, he would be down on me like a thousand of bricks"—his words were, "If you sign it, it won't matter at all, for Mat signs your name in the bank books; but if I was to sign this for Mat, he would be down on me like a thousand of bricks"—he came to me again on the following afternoon, the 11th, about three or four o'clock, and asked me to get ready to go in the morning at twelve o'clock to go to the stockbroker's and draw the money—he said he had been to Red Hill and got it signed—he said the power of attorney was at Irving and Slades, in Copthall Court—he said he should have to pay extra money if he drew it on Saturday or Monday—I told him I thought he had better leave it for a few days, and save the money—he said no, he wished to get it particularly, so that he could send it off by the next post to Melbourne—I got ready next day, and he called for me—we went to the stockbrokers, Irving and Slade, and one of the gentlemen went with us to the Bank of Engand—I first went to Messrs. Grossmith's, perfumers, in Newgate Street, to be identified—when I went to the Bank of England I signed a book there, and Mr. Irving gave the prisoner a cheque—this produced is the transfer I signed. (This was a transfer of 100l. stock to Henry Edward Swift by John Gethin Bartlett for himself and as attorney for Matthew Thomas Bartlet.) After the prisoner had got the cheque I went with him to a bank in Lombard Street, I think it was Glyn's—he went in there, and came out and joined me, and we went in the train to North Woolwich—he there gave me two 51. notes, and I gave them to my wife the same evening; but I must tell you that I received those notes in part payment of an old debt contracted in 1850—I first saw this power of attorney purporting to be signed by my brother when I was in the Bank of England—the prisoner showed me his wife's authority the day he drew the money; he gave it to me; I mean the day we went to the Bank—he did not show me any letter from his wife relating to it—I should know the prisoner's handwriting, if I saw it—this attestation is his writing.

Cross-examined. Q. Had your brother Matthew handed over the prisoner's matters to you? A. Yes, so the prisoner told me, that is all I know—I received the spring dividends, and paid them to the prisoner—those were the first I ever received—I don't think that my brother and I write very much alike—I never noticed it—this "Matthew Bartlett" to the power of attorney certainly looks very much like his writing—it is not a bit like mine—the prisoner said if I signed my brother's name he would

say nothing—I said he would object—I did not say that my brother had signed for me when he drew out the dividends, and that I could sign for him when I drew them out—the prisoner said that Mat had signed for me, and he did not see why I should not sign for him—Mr. Turvey is a grocer—my wife saw him that very morning, I did not, I was ill—I have known him ever since I have been in that house, but I never spoke to him on this business—I am not aware that I said before the Magistrate that I had asked Turvey to witness it, and that he authorised me to sign it for him—it ought to have been that my wife asked him, and that he authorised her—that is a mistake—I never did ask him—if I said so, it must have been false—when the power of attorney came to me it was not filled up—there was not a mark on it, only the printing, there was no writing—I am quite sure of that—I don't know who filled it up—there was no writing on it when I signed it, nothing but the printing; I am quite certain of that—I don't know who filled in the date at the back—the 10th October is my writing—I wrote that at the same time as my name, altogether—I did not fill up the front, that is not my writing—I mean to say that when it came to me by post there was no writing on it at all—as soon as my name was written, and Mr. Turvey's name was written, the prisoner took it away with him—I did not write to my brother about this, or make any inquiries of him—I believed what Hill said to be correct—he said he would go that afternoon and get it done—he came back next day, Friday—I did not insist on having 10l. before I wrote my name—I was to receive 10l. in part payment of a old debt—the prisoner never offered me the money till after he had received it from the Bank, not a word dropped about it before then—I reminded him several times that he owed me the money; not at the time I wrote my name, I never said a word about it then—the old debt is not contained in any book—my books are gone and lost many years ago—it was for wine and spirits delivered, and a bill of exchange—I don't know whether the prisoner had previously sent money to his wife—I had expressed a wish to have my sister over—I was anxious to see her living in England—I was to have the policy the day after he drew the money—he spoke about it about a week before the money was drawn—he showed me a letter on the Thursday morning, stating that they had accepted his life—it had been suggested a week before that the policy should be given to me—I agreed to that—the amount of it was 100l.—I understood that was to insure the repayment of this 100l.—I did not say to him, "Mind and send me the policy as soon as you can get it, and then if Mat kicks up a row I can show him what I have got and make it all right with him"—I never said such a word, and never dreamt such a thing—I never said a word about making it all right, or any thing else—I told him to let me have the policy as soon as it could possibly be got ready; but I never said such a thing as that—I did not communicate with my brother Matthew at all—he came and called on me—that was after the Bank had found this matter out—he was very angry indeed with me—I was certainly afraid at first that the Bank were going to prosecute me, because I could not understand it—I never was in such a thing before—I am not aware that they found fault with me for signing Turvey's name; I have not heard anything about it—I told my brother that I had signed Turvey's name, when he came to me on the following Saturday after the money was drawn.

MR. POLAND. Q. Do you know anything about Henry Smith, whose name is down as an attesting witness? A. No; I never signed my brother's name in my life—I had not the paper in my possession more than

an hour—the prisoner did not read it through at all, and I had not time to read it through—he was in such a hurry to get it back.

COURT. Q. When the prisoner gave you the two 5l. notes on the Saturday, did you ask him where he got the money from? A. No, I did not—he told me had sufficient without that to send to my sister, he had 75l.

Q. When you went to the brokers in Copthall Court, and when you went to the Bank and signed the transfer, did you believe the assumed signature on the power of attorney of your brother to be his real signature? A. I believed it was.

ELIZABETH BARTLETT . I am the wife of John Gethin Bartlett—I remember his receiving a power of attorney—I cannot remember the date, but Thursday, to the best of my knowledge—I saw the prisoner on that day—I was in and out of the bar parlour all the time he was there—when this paper came by post ray husband looked at it and told me it would have to be witnessed—I cannot remember all that was said, as I never expected to hear any more about it—I said to the prisoner, "Mr. Turvey has agreed to be the witness;" as near as I can remember, he asked who Mr. Turvey was, and I told him a grocer—I had spoken to Mr. Turvey in consequence of a communication between me and my husband—when the prisoner came the prisoner asked me if Mr. Turvey was handy—I said that I knew; he was not, for he had gone up the road with his cart—he said, "He will have to sign his name"—I said, "He cannot do that, for he cannot write"—the prisoner said that it was only a form, and if I put Mr. Turvey's name that would do just as well as sending it to his house—I, then put Mr. Turvey's name on the paper as a witness—this, "William Turvey,† grocer, 24, Custom House Terrace, North Woolwich Road," is my writing—the prisoner said that he was going to Red Hill to get it signed by my husband's brother—I do not remember any other signature—my husband wrote his name first, and I wrote this afterwards, and after the prisoner had had some refreshment he put the paper in his pocket and went away with it—the prisoner tried to induce my husband to sign his brother's name here, and said that, as he had signed in the Bank books, there would be no more harm in his doing so—he did not do so—it was after that that he said he would take it to Red Hill—I did not read the power—I do not know what is in it even now—I remember the Saturday when my husband came from London with the prisoner—he was not there very long—on the same evening my husband gave him two 5l. Bank of England notes—I went to Stratford the same evening and paid them to Mr. Elphick.

Cross-examined. Q. When did you see Mr. Matthew after that? A. Not till I saw him the other day—I do not remember that he was angry: I am very angry now to be placed in such a position—I was not very much afraid my husband was going to be prosecuted, because I knew he had done no wrong—he did not tell me that he was afraid, or that he expected to be prosecuted—Mr. Matthew did not appear angry to me, but I had never seen him before in ray life; we never invited him to the wedding and I never saw him, but he has behaved very kind to my husband—I saw him when he came in, but do not know that he was angry—I was—I wrote the name of Turvey at Mr. Hill's instigation—he is an educated man, and I am not educated at all—I did not think it wrong to write another person's name—I believe Mr. Turvey is here; my husband did not see him—he does not get up so early in the morning, and Turvey was out with his cart in the next street when I went to look for him—I did not know any other respectable man who was a householder—I just glanced at the paper, but did not read

any part of it; my husband did not tell me anything—he looked at it and said, "This paper will have to be witnessed"—I did not think any fraud was contemplated—I only wrote in one place—I believe this John Gethin Bartlett, on the other side, to be my husband's writing, it looks very much like it—I did not write this "Henry Smith," and do not know anything about it; I have not seen it before, and if you look at that William Turvey, you will see that this is not my writing—I can read—I do not know whose writing this Matthew Thomas Bartlett is, I am sure it is not my husband's, because it was not on the paper when it went from our house—I have nothing to do with the other signatures, they were not on the paper when it left our house—this is certainly not my husband's writing—I am sure this Smith is not my writing, I think Mr. Hill has placed us all in this position—I was not called before the Magistrate and should not have come had I not been subpoenaed—ray evidence was not taken in writing before a Magistrate, only at Mr. Freshfield's office a week or a fortnight ago—I did not take particular notice of the date—they wrote to me to come up to their office, and I went—it is rather over a week I think since I was subpoenaed—I did not read this paper over—my husband did not tell me to ask Turvey for his authority, but Mr. Hill did—I had asked Turvey's permission, but Mr. Hill told me where to sign Mr. Turvey's name—it was my husband who told me to ask Mr. Turvey, not Mr. Hill.

MR. POLAND. Q. Just look at that paper; turn it over? A. That is what I wrote—I see my husband's signature here; he wrote his signature first—I only saw him write once, he only wrote his own name—no part of this document is my husband's writing but his name.

COURT. Q. On one side and on the other? A. His name is on both sides; I do not remember that he wrote more than once, but I was not in the room the whole of the time; he wrote this when I came into the barparlour, and I wrote afterwards; but there is his name twice on the paper—these words "Wm. Turvey, Grocer," which are struck out, are in my writing.

HENRY JOHN SLADE . I am a member of the firm of Irving and Slade, stockbrokers, of Copthall Court, Throgmorton Street—I first saw the prisoner at the end of September, between the 24th and the 27th—I heard a person talking to a clerk in the outer office—I saw him, and he said that he required a power of attorney—he spoke about transferring stock which stood in two names; I said that it would be necessary for the persons in whose name the stock stood to attend at the Bank of England, or to give a power of attorney—he called again on or about 30th September, and I received his instructions for a power of attorney, took them down in writing, and he signed them; this is the paper I wrote. (This was an instruction for a power of attorney to sell 100l. stock, from 662l. 12s. 3d.—Signed E. T. Hill, 48, Camden Road.) The course of business was to prepare a ticket of instructions from the prisoner—a ticket was prepared, the body, of which was written by me, in answer to questions I put to him—some difficulty arose in consequence of the ticket of instructions not being prepared by me, and a fresh ticket was prepared and left at the Bank—after that I took no further steps, as Mr. Irving had returned to London—on Friday, 11th October, the prisoner come to my office, and handed me this power of attorney, executed and witnessed precisely as it is now—he said that he had taken it down to Red Hill, and got it signed the night before—a conversation took place about making an appointment for Saturday—I said Saturdays and Mondays were private transfer days, and it would be

necessary to pay an extra fee—I believe he said that it was of no importance, or that there was no hurry for the money—I said that, as we were not acquainted with Mr. John Gethin Bartlett, it would be necessary that he should be identified by some one we knew, or by some respectable person in the City; he said that that would not be difficult, as Mr. Bartlett had lived in the City ten or eleven years, and an appointment was made for Saturday—he came on the Saturday, and said, "I have Mr. Bartlett outside in a cab; you said that it would be necessary to have him identified; can you or one of your firm go with me to Newgate Street to have him identified?"—I said, "I dare say my partner will go; he is out on business," and the prisoner stayed till Mr. Irving returned—while he was waiting I put forward the ticket to the Bank of England, and instructed them to make the transfer; they made no objection—I went to the Bank, and saw the purchase of the stock, and the sale was concluded—I drew this cheque (produced) and handed it to Mr. Irving.

COURT. Q. Did you receive the cheque from Mr. Swift? A. No; it is the course of business to pay all the clients first, and deliver all the receipts at the end of the day—I expected payment from Mir. Swift, and paid the prisoner on his credit.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you examined before the police-court? A. No; I have not been examined before to-day—Messrs. Freshfield attended at our office and took down my evidence a week or ten days ago.

JAMES CORBETT IRVING . I am Mr. Slade's partner—I returned to town on 3rd October, and saw the prisoner on the 4th I believe—there was some question about the description in the Bank books; he gave me a wrong description, and I told him I could not find the account—I received back the ticket of instructions when he called on the 4th, 6th, or 7th, and told him that the description differed in the Bank books, and he must give me a different description; he did so, he brought it written on the back of a letter, which he handed to me, and I forwarded it to the Bank of England, and afterwards received it back again—two or three applications were made to the Bank—they returned it twice.

COURT. Q. Is there an office at the Bank of England called the Power of Attorney Office? A. Yes, you apply there for what power of attorney you want; if there is no stock standing in the name of the person there is no power granted, but if there is the Bank keeps the instructions.

MR. STRAIGHT. Q. Do you recollect Wednesday, 9th October? A. Yes, on that day I prepared this fresh ticket of instructions (produced) from information I procured from Mr. Hill—it is my writing—this ticket was sent to the Bank of England in the ordinary way—the prisoner called on me on 10th October, the day following the day that the ticket was sent to the Bank—he asked me if I had obtained the power—I said, "Well, I will go over to the Bank and see if it is ready"—I went over, brought it back, and said, "I have obtained it"—he said that he could take it and get it signed, but we said that we would rather send it by post—the body was filled up when I obtained it at the Bank, but not the signatures—it went the same afternoon to Mr. John Gethin Bartlett, about five o'clock—I do not think I saw it again—on Friday, the 11th, my partner saw it—I saw it on Saturday, the 12th—it was sent over to the Bank of England for inspecttion—the prisoner called about twelve o'clock that day—I said that it was necessary to have some person to identify him, and we went to Mr. Grossmith who identified John Gethin Bartlett to me, and then we returned to the Bank of England and John Gethin Bartlett made the transfer—I

saw him sign his name—this (produced) is his signature, to the best of my belief—it was not my duty to witness the signature, only to identify him—there is no question about it being his signature—Mr. Slade then handed the prisoner this cheque for 92l. odd—we always have our cheques printed crossed—the prisoner asked me to make it "Pay cash," and I did so—I was examined before the Magistrate.

Cross-examined. Q. Supposing the two Bartletts had signed the power of attorney to the prisoner, would that have been sufficient? A. Yes; we either want a warrant or a personal attendance.

MR. POLAND. Q. I suppose the only person who would attend would be the prisoner? A. The attorney would be the person who would attend, and if he is identified that is enough—it might have been a power signed by the two Bartletts to the prisoner.

COURT. Q. Is it partly printed and partly written? A. Yes, the particulars are introduced into the body of it by the Bank clerk; we know the names of the parties, and require to see that their residences agree with the Bank books, and then we send it for execution—I believe the Bank sometimes grant a power in blank for the amount, but I am not quite clear on that point—I believe the Bank always issue their own forms—I believe they are printed for the Bank—the use of a power of attorney is to identify the account—we send in an application called instructions, and if the description in the Bank books does not vary, they immediately return the instructions—if there is a doubt they apply to Messrs. Freshfield, but I do not think they issue them entirely in blank; the attorney's name would be in blank, but the name of the person and the stock never is—when a power of attorney is given out and sent into the country, I am perfectly convinced that the head part is filled up, because we always make an entry in our books before we send a power away—the date would be left blank till the person signs it—the name of the person "John Gethin Bartlett" is filled in in the middle—the name of the attorney is left blank, it is filled up now—if not correctly described in the Bank books they would not issue the power.

ROBERT GEORGE VESEY . I am a clerk in the Power of Attorney Office, Bank of England—I filled up the power of attorney produced on the 9th October, 1867—the name of "John Gethin Bartlett" on the face of it was written by me—I filled up all the writing, with the exception of the signatures and the date—I did not fill up anything on the other side except the date in the corner.

WILLIAM SNELGROVE . I am a clerk in the Consolidated Three per Cent Office, Bank of England—I was there when the stockbroker attended with John Gethin Bartlett, and signed the attestation as it now appears to his signature—it was attested "William Turvey, grocer"—I struck that out and the date also, because it was intended to be attested by me—I am the transfer clerk, and it is my duty to attest the demand to act—I asked Mr. Bartlett if it was his signature—he said it was, and I then struck out the name of Turvey, and wrote my own name above—I also altered the date so as to make it apply to the date of the attestation—these forms are printed in the Bank of England—a person can make out his own power if he pleases—they are brought to the Bank to be examined.

FREDERICK HENRY BOVIL CATTIE . I am a clerk in the Consolidated Three per Cent. Office, Bank of England—on 13th October, 1858, there was posted in the Bank ledger an entry relating to 662l. 14s. 13d.—I have an extract from the Bank ledger, which I have examined—it remained

entered in that way in the Bank books up to the time this transfer was made on the 12th October.

----Ross. This cheque for 92l. was presented over the counter on the 12th October, and paid by me in sixteen bank-notes and 12l. 8s. in money.

HENRY WEBB (Police Sergeant). I apprehended the prisoner on the 22nd October at 48, Camden Road—I read the warrant to him and charged him with forging a power of attorney, transferring 100l. worth of stock standing in the names of Mr. Matthew Thomas Bartlett and John Gethin Bartlett—he said, "Who says it is a forgery?"—I said, "Mr. Bartlett"—I believe I said Mr. Matthew Bartlett, but I am not positive upon that—I also said, "Mr. Matthew Bartlett says that the attesting witness, Henry Smith, to the power of attorney, is a forgery as well"—he said, "Oh, that is nothing what he says; have you seen Mr. John Gethin Bartlett?"—I said, "Yes, I have"—he said, "What does he say?"—I said, "He says it is a forgery as well; he has seen his brother, and he likewise says it is a forgery"—he said, "Suppose it is a forgery, they lose nothing by it; it is my own property"—I found these two letters of the 1st and 23rd September, which have been read, in a box at his lodgings—I took him to the station, searched him, and found 3d. in money and a knife—I have since been to Red Hill, and made inquiries in the Station Road, endeavouring to find out Henry Smith, the attesting witness to this document—there is no such person residing there.

Cross-examined. Q. When you told him what John Gethin Bartlett had said, did not he say, "That's a lie?" A. Yes—he afterwards said, even if it was a forgery, it was his own property.

GUILTY of uttering. Five Years' Penal Servitude.


Before Mr. Baron Channell.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-42
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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44. WILLIAM JOHNSTONE (50) , Unlawfully having counterfeit coin in his possession, with intent to utter it.

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JANE SUNTLEY . I am the wife of John Luntley, who keeps the Golden Cross, Woolwich—on 21st October a boy about fourteen years old came in with a jug for a pint of porter—he gave me a bad half-crown—I asked him where he got it—I kept it and the jug, and let him go—my man went

out, and the prisoner was brought back by a policeman, bat I declined to prosecute him, and he was let go—my husband gave the coin to the policeman.

THOMAS RYAN (Police Sergeant, Woolwich Dockyard). I do duty in plain clothes—on 21st October, about nine o'clock at night, I was outside the dockyard gates, and saw a servant bringing the boy towards me—I took him to the Golden Cross, searched him, but found nothing on him—Mrs. Suntley refused to prosecute, and I let him go—she gave me this half-crown (produced)—I put the boy on the road to London, and saw the prisoner walking towards London—I saw no communication between them—I followed the boy, he turned round, saw me, and turned up a court which is no thoroughfare—I waited till he came out again, stopped him, and asked him where he belonged to—he said that he was a labourer—I said, "I do not feel satisfied about your conduct; I must take you to the station"—he said that he would go with me—I heard him drop something when within a few yards of the dockyard gate—it was quite dark, past ten o'clock—I took him into the dockyard, and found a counterfeit half-crown in his left-hand coat pocket, and 16s. 7 1/2 d. in good money in his right-hand trousers pocket—I asked him how he became possessed of the money—he said that he received it in change of a sovereign at a public-house—I asked him if he knew the house—he said that he did not think he should be able to show it to me—I got a light, searched where I heard something fall, and found thirteen half-crowns and two crowns rolled up in pieces of paper, which went between each—I told him what I had found—he said that he knew nothing about it.

Prisoner. Q. How far from the dockyard gate did you stop me? A. Twenty or thirty yards—I gave you the opportunity of going to the public-house—you first said that you could show it to me, and afterwards that you could not.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . These two half-crowns are bad, and from the same mould—these thirteen others are. bad, and from the same mould as the other two—the crowns are bad, and from the same mould.

Prisoner's Defence. I took the bad money in change for a sovereign.

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45. JOHN HUTTON (40) and ROBERT JACKSON (29) , Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin, having other counterfeit coin in their possession.

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WILLIAM BRANCH . I keep the British Oak, Greenwich—on 23rd October, about twelve in the day, the prisoners came in together, and a third person joined them shortly afterwards, who was discharged by the Magistrate—the prisoners sat down together for three hours, and had four or five pots of porter and half-and-half—Jackson paid me with a bad shilling—I gave him the change, and as he was going away I said, "Do you know what you have given me? have you any more of them?"—he said, "No"—I broke it in half, and gave it to him—he chucked it in the fire, and gave me a florin—I gave him the change—he had another pot of beer, paid for it in the proper way, and they left—I followed them to a little chandler's shop, where they got a half-quartern loaf—I ultimately went to the Royal Standard public-house, and spoke to Mr. Edington.

Hutton. I was not there when the bad money was offered, I was in the tap-room. Witness. You could not hear what passed.

MARY ANN ATKINS . I am visiting at the Royal Standard, Greenwich

—on 23rd October I saw the prisoners together in the tap-room—Jackson came out first—he paid for the beer he had had with a shilling—I said that it was bad—he said that he did not know it—I handed it to Mr. Roberts, the assistant at the bar, and saw him break it in pieces—Hutton came out afterwards, and called for some beer—I refused to serve him—the prisoners were given in custody.

Hutton. Q. When I called for something had Jackson gone? A. He was leaving, and you came into the tap-room afterwards.

LEWIS WILLIAM ROBERTS . I am assistant at the Royal Standard—I saw the prisoners and a third man in the tap-room—I came out after Jackson's beer was put on the counter—I received a shilling from Mrs. Atkins, which I broke in three pieces; one piece was lost, and the other two I can swear to—I asked Jackson where he got the shilling—he said that he begged of a gentleman, who gave it to him—Hutton came out, and was given in custody—I put the two pieces of the shilling in my pocket, and then on the shelf—Hutton tried to get out—he went into the garden after the bad shilling was detected—I had no other piece of broken shilling in my pocket.

PETER BROUGH . I am a waiter at the Royal Standard—on 23rd October I saw the two prisoners in the tap-room together—I afterwards saw Jack-son at the bar—I told him I was going to search him—he said that he did not mind—I searched him, and found 1d.—I said, "I believe you are a connected party, and I must put you out of the house too"—Hutton said, "If you think I am a connected party I will show you all the money I have got"—he put his hand in his pocket, and pulled out a lot of money—I noticed a bad shilling, and laid hold of his hand, and told him I wanted to see that shilling that he had at the top—I took it, put it between my teeth; and said it was bad—he said, "Let me look"—I said, "No"—he said that he was not aware of it—I put it in my pocket, and told my master—I afterwards handed it to Miss Houghton, and went for a constable.

Jackson. Q. Was not I out an hour before you came back with a policeman? A. About forty minutes.

Hutton. Q. How long was it after you found the shilling on him at the bar that you came to me? A. About seven minutes, but previously to that you had ample time to put it away, if you knew that you had more bad money, while I was searching Jackson; you passed by me, and went into the rear of the yard—I did not see you put anything away.

COURT. Q. How long after you found the bad shilling on him did you give information at the bar? A. Not a minute.

LEWIS WILLIAM ROBERTS (re-examined). I saw the man pass through into the yard, but could not see what he was doing—he went into the watercloset out of my sight—he remained only two or three minutes, and then came in again—I believe the watercloset was searched, but I was away.

SARAH HOUGHTON . I am barmaid at the Royal Standard—I saw Jackson give a shilling to Mrs. Atkins, and saw her hand it to Mr. Roberts, who broke it, and gave me the two pieces to place on the shelf—I gave them to a constable, with a shilling which I afterwards received from Brough.

CHARLES LINCOLN (Policeman 313 R). I was sent for to the Royal Standard, and these two pieces of a broken shilling (produced) were handed to me by the barmaid—the prisoners were given into my custody—Jackson was lying on a bench just outside the door—I searched Hutton, and found

four sixpences and 7d. in copper, and on Jackson two coppers—I searched the privy, but found nothing; Jackson was not drunk.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . This is a bad shilling, and these are two pieces of a bad shilling.

Hutton's Defence. I got two shillings from a gentleman. I had no other money but the change of it If I had been guilty I had plenty of time to go away.

Jackson's Defence. I met Hutton on Blackheath Common, who asked me to have a share of some beer. I was very glad of the chance, and went into the tap-room with him. A waiter said to me, "There is a man at the bar trying to pass a bad shilling."I said, "What man is it?" He said, "I think it is the tall man who was sitting by the side of you," I said, "Indeed!" and afterwards they came and said that I was a connected party. I changed a half-sovereign that day, but was not aware I had any bad money about me, or I should have put it in the fire. I do not know a bad shilling from a good one.


Before Mr. Recorder.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-46
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty; Not Guilty > no evidence

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EDSLEY and SMITH PLEADED GUILTY .— Eighteen Month' Imprisonment. MR. STRAIGHT, for the Prosecution, offered no evidence against EDWARDS— NOT GUILTY .

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-47
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-48
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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48. THOMAS HORTON (22) and GEORGE ACTON (35) , Unlaw-fully obtaining 6s. and 1s. 3d., from Charles Webb, under false pretences.

MR. COOPER conducted the Prosecution; MR. STRAIGHT defended Horton and MR. JUNNER defended Acton.

JANE WEBB . I am the wife of Charles Webb, of 5, Old Woolwich Road, Woolwich, where my husband and myself keep a small grocer's shop—on Monday, the 9th September, Acton came to our shop and said he wanted to see to our scales and weights—he said, "I come from Inspector Farmer"—I said, "I have heard we must have them seen to," and asked if he did the stamping and all that was required—he said he did—he then said the inspector would compel us to have them done, and he would bring me some more weights to-morrow and take mine away—he then went away, and in about half an hour came back in company with Horton, and said he had orders from Inspector Farmer to go to several shops and do their weights, and he thought it would be more convenient to me to let Horton do them there than take them away—Horton had a basket containing scales and weights and pieces of lead—Horton then took my weights and said they were too light, and he hammered some pieces of lead into them—he said it was a very good job I got them done, for I should have got into a great deal of trouble when the inspector came—he then asked for 6s., and said I must have two new weights, which he would bring to-morrow—Horton made out the bill produced, and after I gave him the money he gave

it to me receipted—he said he could not wait till the next day for the money, as he had to pay it to Inspector Farmer the same night—he brought the weights the next day, and said Inspector Farmer would call in a day or two and stamp them—he showed me a list, which he said showed where he had to call—I paid him 1s. 3d. and he took the old weights away—I told, him I thought he had not done the weights exactly right, as I had been told the lead ought to have been run into them—he said, "Oh, nonsense, you cannot have the lead run in, for if you were you would be obliged to have them stamped every time."'

Cross-examined by MR. STRAIGHT. Q. When Horton first came, was any one with him? A. Yes, Acton—Horton came by himself the next day—we have been about five months in this shop—we bought our weights from our predecessors—we had not had these weights seen to—we were told by our baker we ought to do so—the inspector did not come—I went to him.

JOHN WELLS FARMER . I am inspector of weights and measures, appointed by the county Magistrates—I know Acton, but not Horton—I never authorised either of the prisoners to examine any weights—I never gave Horton any list of names to call upon, and never authorised him under any circumstances to act for me—on the 11th September Mrs. Farmer brought me four brass and five iron weights to stamp—I rejected them—Acton did something to a mangle for me about four years ago, but I never employed him as inspector.

Cross-examined by MR. STRAIGHT. Q. You have a son, have you not? A. Yes—he is between fifty and sixty years of age, and has been in the habit of acting as inspector along with me until last Christmas—he was appointed by the Magistrates.

Cross-examined by MR. JUNNER. Q. Are you called Inspector Farmer? A. Yes—my son is also called Inspector Farmer—the district got very heavy, and it was divided into four, and I and three others were appointed to those districts—my son was not re-appointed—my name is John Wells Farmer, and my son's name John William Fanner—I generally sign my name "John Farmer," and my son is also known by that name—I have known Acton about ten or twelve years—he is known as "Lying Acton"—I never gave him a recommendation further than saying he was an ingenious young man—I told Mr. Payne, an engineer, that—I do not know that my son has employed Acton as inspector—he has employed him in other ways—to do some repairs.

JOHN CHUTER (Policeman 123 L). I apprehended Horton on the 30th—I told him I wanted him for obtaining money under false pretences, representing himself as being sent by Inspector Farmer to adjust weights and measures—he said, "What! me?"—I said, "Yes, you, Tommy"—he said, "All right; I suppose I have some b----good friends"—I took him to the station.

JAMES FINNEY (Policeman 56 R). The prisoner Acton came to the station the day the warrant was granted—the warrant was read to him.

MR. JUNNER. Q. What did he say? A. He said, "I was sent by Mr. Farmer's son"—he gave himself up voluntarily.

JOHN WILLIAM FARMER . I am the son of John Wells Farmer—I ceased to be an inspector of weights and measures last Christmas—I know Acton, but not Horton, except that he made himself known to me as a parishioner—I did not give the prisoners directions to go to Mrs. Webb's to look at her weights—they never paid me 6s. received from her.

Cross-examined by MR. STRAIGHT. Q. Did you tell them they might go and examine certain weights and scales? A. Horton represented himself to me as a scalemaker, and said his father was a resident in the parish, and through that brought myself into trouble—I did say, "You are a young man experienced in these matters, and there are certain persons wanted to be attended to; if you choose, you can go;" and as Acton was a trustworthy young man, I thought he might go and assist him—I knew Horton two months ago—I was examined at the Greenwich Police-court—I did tell Horton he might go.


18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-49
VerdictNot Guilty > directed

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MR. DALY conducted the Prosecution, and MR. SLEIGH the Defence.

GEORGE MONK . I am a baker at Woolwich—the prisoner has been a commercial traveller—about six months ago he entrusted a mare to me to keep for him—I had the privilege of using it for the keep—I afterwards saw the prisoner in company with Mr. Swift and Sayer—I had three or four meetings with them about accepting a bill of exchange—I think it was at the latter end of July—the prisoner owed Swift some money, and they drew a bill and asked me to accept it—I refused three or four times, because the mare was put up to a raffle—it was in my possession at the time—at last I accepted the bill—they asked me if I would take an "I O U" for the amount of the bill when I refused to accept it—I said no, an I O U was of no use, and the prisoner then said that I should have the mare until the bill was due, if I accepted it for Swift—that was agreed to, that the mare was to be my property until the bill was due, and with that I accepted the bill—that was agreed to in the prisoner's presence—the three of them were present—the words Wadsworth used were, "You won't lose much, you have got the mare"—that was to be my security—I would not have done it upon anything else—we went to the place where the raffle was to be, and stopped it—I and Swift went, not the prisoner—he said he would have the raffle stopped, because he had taken money of persons who had tickets—I afterwards had to meet the bill on the 2nd of this month—I have not got it with me now—I had it yesterday—I have sent down to Woolwich for it.

MR. SLEIGH submitted that there was not a case to go the Jury, the prisoner never having parted with his property in the mare, and the prosecutor never having acquired any property in it. MR. DALY contended that it was not necessary that the property should be entirely divested; if it was lodged at a security, and then got back by a contrivance, that would amount to larceny. The RECORDER did not stop the case on this objection, but at its close, the bill not being produced, he was of opinion that without it there was no case, and directed a verdict of NOT GUILTY .

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-50
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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50. JAMES THOMAS (19) , Burglary in the dwellinghouse of William Hayett, and stealing a coat and other articles of John Bear.

MR. WOOD conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN BEAR . I am a coppersmith, and live at 29, Seymour Street, New Town, Deptford—on Friday, 27th September, I was lodging in the house of Mr. Hayett, 53, Hamilton Street, Deptford—I occupied the front parlour and back bedroom—I went to bed the previous night from ten to half-past—the house was fastened when I came in—I bolted the front door top and bottom, and put the chain on—the back door was fastened and bolted, and the window

—there was a broken pane in the window, which had a piece of paper over it—next morning I found that broken; that would enable a person to undo the latch and open the window—I lost two coats, a jacket of my wife's, a pair of boots, a shirt, and a concertina—the landlord called me at half-past six in the morning, and I found my room turned upside down, and pretty nearly everything strewed about the place—I saw a pair of boots in the possession of the witness Putman, they were my property—I also saw a black cloth jacket of my wife's.

MARY ANN BEAR . I am the prosecutor's wife—I saw a black cloth jacket of mine produced at the police-court in the prisoner's presence—I had seen it safe the night before the robbery—I know it was my jacket, because I made it myself.

WILLIAM HAYETT . I am a shipwright, and keep the house, 53, Hamilton Street, Deptford—I got up on the morning of the 28th September about half past six, went down stairs, and found the back window wide open—I missed two pairs of boots, a teapot, and a monkey jacket—I saw one pair of boots produced by the pawnbroker at the police-court in the prisoner's presence, and I identified them—I have not seen the teapot since.

THOMAS WHITBREAD . I am in the service of Crossley and Phillips, pawnbrokers, Wellington Street, Deptford—on the 28th September some boots were brought to my place by two females, named-Rix and Davis—I had never seen them before—they were the boots which the prosecutor and Hayett afterwards saw and identified—I have not got them here—I was not aware they would be required, as they have been identified.

HENRY PUTMAN . I am in the service of Crossley and Phillips—I have not got the black cloth jacket here—I produced it at the Greenwich Police-court, in the prisoner's presence, and Mrs. Bear identified it—it was pawned for 3s. 6d. on the 3rd October.

SARAH BLAKE . I am the wife of George Henry Blake, who keeps a licensed house at Deptford—the prisoner is a stranger to me—I only saw him come into my house two or three times, talking to two young women, named Ford and Rix, who occupy a room in my house—I was at home the day the police called and searched their room.

LAURA FORD . I live at Mr. Blake's, in Stanhope Street, Deptford—I am an unfortunate girl—the prisoner sometimes visits me—I remember the prisoner and a man named Wilson coming to our room about four o'clock one morning six or seven weeks ago—they brought some property with them, three coats and three pairs of boots, two of the coats were overcoats, and there was a monkey jacket and a lady's jacket—I also saw a teapot—Wilson and Thomas brought them in together—I pawned a pair of boots—they took the things altogether, I think about nine o'clock, and carried them away—I don't know where to—I and Rix had a pair of boots each—Wilson gave them to us—we took them to Crossley and Phillips's to pawn—I afterwards saw those boots at the Greenwich Police-court—it was the same day that they brought the things that we went to the pawnbroker's.

SUSANNAH ELIZABETH RIX . I live with the last witness—I remember the prisoner and another man coming there at four o'clock one morning about six weeks ago; they brought a parcel containing three pairs of boots, a monkey jacket, and two overcoats—I saw the property afterwards at the police-court—Wilson gave me a pair of boots to pawn, and Ford another pair, and we went and pawned them at Crossley and Phillips's—the remainder of the property they took away together.

PETER MARGETSON (Policeman 106 R). In consequence of information

I received from Ford and Rix, I apprehended the prisoner—I told him it was for being concerned with a man named Wilson—he made no answer.

The prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate:—"Wilson came round to our house at four o'clock in the morning, and asked me if I would buy a coat. I asked him what sort of coat it was. He asked me to come and look. He took me to this girl's house. I looked at the coat, it was too big, and put it back. He left two pairs of boots, and took the other things out, tied up in a tablecloth, and took them away about half-past four.

GUILTY .*†— Eighteen Month's Imprisonment.


Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

18th November 1867
Reference Numbert18671118-51
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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