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Minutes of Evidence,


Session I to Session VI




A star (*) denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars (**) that they have been more than once in custody—An obelisk (†) that they are known to be the associates of bad characters.


OLD COURT.—Monday, November 25th,1850.



Before Mr. Recorder and the First Jury.

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Reference Numbert18501125-1
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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1. JOSEPH STRICKLAND and ANN COLLINS were indicted for unlawfully conspiring together, and with one Frances M'Kenna, to cheat and defraud Ellen Savage.


NEW COURT.—Monday, November 25th,1850.


Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the First Jury.

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VerdictGuilty > unknown

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2. WILLIAM HOWELL , stealing 1 inkstand, value 1s.; the goods of the Trustees of the British Museum: having been before convicted.

MR. BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.

JOSEPH SHELVER . I live in Chapel-place, Brompton, and am in the employ of the British Museum. On 6th Nov., about four o'clock in the afternoon, I saw the prisoner come into the saloon—I watched him, and saw something projecting from his pocket behind—he passed from the saloon to the new gallery, and put his hand behind him and looked up at the ceiling, which caused the impression to be more perfect, and I saw the appearance of an inkstand through the cloth of the coat—I spoke to Hayes, a fellow-servant, the prisoner was near enough to hear what I said—I told Hayes to watch him, and not to allow him to put anything away, as I was going for a policeman—as I was going away the prisoner said something about an inkstand, and he said, "Where is Mr. Lingard"—we took the prisoner into a side-room, and he told the policeman he had no pockets—this is the inkstand (produced); it was taken from

the mineral department—the prisoner was three or four hundred yards from there when I first saw him.

Prisoner. I did not hear what you said; I had passed you before that.

Witness. I allowed you to go to the grand central saloon, and then I passed you again; you might have heard what I said to Hayes, there were but few persons there—I did not see yon pull the inkstand out of your pocket—you had passed one officer before you came to me.

MR. BODKIN. Q. When you first saw the prisoner, was his hand behind him? A. No; quite free, by his side—he was walking as any other visitor would—when he got twenty yards from me he put his hands behind him.

AARON HAYES . I am one of the attendants at the British Museum. On 6th Nov. Shelver told me he believed the prisoner had an inkstand in his pocket, and recommended me to see that he did not make away with it while he went for a policeman—it was said loud enough for the prisoner to hear—I went to the prisoner, and saw something projecting from his pocket—he took out this inkstand, and asked me if my name was Lingard—I said, "No, where did you get that inkstand?"—he said he found it in some bye-place—it has the mark of the British Museum on it, and Mr. Lingard's name—the prisoner said at the station that he found it in a bye-place, and then that he found it on a stool or seat on the stairs.

FREDERICK LINGARD . I am an attendant in the mineral department at the British Museum—I saw this inkstand on the morning of 6th Nov. in its proper place, on a shelf in the fourth room in the mineral department—I have to take it down when I use it—Sir Henry Ellis has the care of the property in the British Museum.

WILLIAM MINNIS TIDDY (policeman A 63). I took the prisoner; he delivered up this inkstand to me—Shelver accused him of having it in his pocket—he said, "That is impossible; I have no pocket in my coat"—I examined his coat; there is a pocket in each flap.

Prisoner's Defence. I went in, and saw this lying down; I picked it up and thought I would give it to the first officer; I did not know the first person was an officer; the name being on it made me ask for Lingard; I had no pocket that would hold it; I had it down by my side with my hat.

WILLIAM JURY (policeman, F 30). I produce a certificate of the prisoner's conviction at Clerkenwell—(read)—Convicted July, 1849, and confined six months—he is the person.

GUILTY . Aged 32.— Confined Twelve Months.

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Reference Numbert18501125-3
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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3. HENRY GRANT , stealing 3 geese, value 15s.; the goods of Charles Dearlove; having been before convicted: to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Twelve Months.

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VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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4. JOHN RITCHIE , stealing 1 watch, value 10l.; the goods of James Cundy, from his person: to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Twelve Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-5
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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5. HENRY RAVEN , embezzling 6l. 4s. 8 1/2 d.; the moneys of Edmund Candler, his master: to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Six Months.

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6. ROBERT ALLEN , stealing 6 horse-shoes and 430 nails, value 2s. 6d.; the goods of Peter Boughton.

JOHN SCOTNEY (police-sergeant T 18). I had the prisoner in custody on 24th Aug.—I afterwards went to a stable and found three horse-cloths, two sacks, six new horse-shoes, and 430 new nails—the stable is in the main street in the parish of Isleworth—it has been in the prisoner's possession ever since the horses left it—he sleeps there.

WILLIAM JENNINGS . I went to the stable with Scotney, and found these things.

PETER BOUGHTON . I know the prisoner, and frequently employed him—I never knew him to be dishonest till this—I can swear to these horse-shoes as having no mark on them, and being remarkably rough, they are made from old iron for hard-working horses—I know these nails by their being mixed, and some of them have the maker's name on them, and from the proportion in which they are mixed—I can swear to them, they were on my premises—these shoes were in my forge.

JOHN COOKSEY . I am in the service of Mr. Boughton; I know these shoes to be his—one pair I made myself about three months before—we missed one pair about a month before we found these—the prisoner used to work for my master very frequently.

Prisoner's Defence. I had the key of that stable nearly ten months, and used to sleep there; I was absent three weeks; I came back on 24th Aug., and the officer came and took me; I was tried at Clerkenwell, and had two months; I then heard that they had been and broken the stable open; somebody must have put these things there.


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7. ROBERT ALLEN was again indicted for stealing 1 sack, value 1s. 6d.; the goods of William Marshall and another.

ROBERT SCOTNEY (police-sergeant, T 18). I had the prisoner in custody on 24th Aug.—I went to the stable which he occupied, and found two sacks and three horse-cloths—this is one of the sacks.

WILLIAM JENNINGS . I was with Scotney, and found this sack—it laid on the bricks on the stable floor.

WILLIAM MARSHALL . I am a baker and corn-dealer. This sack belongs to me and my brother, who is my partner—I am continually losing sacks; we lend them to our customers, and they get from their hands to the paper-makers—I have seen the prisoner before, but do not know him.

Prisoner. This sack was left there full of corn before the horses went away; it has been in the stable ever since. Witness. I do not know the stable where this sack was found—I am not aware that I served the person who had horses there—I could not swear when I lost this sack—I am in the habit of losing them.


Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Sixth Jury.

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Reference Numbert18501125-8
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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8. THOMAS WATTS , breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Seth Bidlake, and stealing 2 watches, value 8l.; his property.

WILLIAM SETH BIDLAKE . I am a watchmaker; I have a shop in Threadneedle-street, in the parish of St. Martin Outwich; I have not a dwelling-house there. On 25th Oct. I was in my shop, between five and six o'clock in the evening—I heard a noise outside, and on looking up I saw a man striking against the glass with his fist—I believe it was the

prisoner—he broke the window, put his hand in, and made a grasp at the things—he took two watches and a reading-glass—they were mine—I went out and found one watch and the reading-glass on the pavement, the other watch was found in the prisoner's pocket—these are my property.

DAVID LOCKE ( City-policeman,630). I took the prisoner in the prosecutor's shop—I searched him, and found this watch in his pocket.

JASPER CAPPER . I was passing through Threadneedle-street—I heard the breaking of glass—I saw the prisoner preparing to start off—I collard him—he was within five feet of the shop-door—I took him into the shop.

GUILTY of stealing only. Confined Twelve Months

OLD COURT.—Tuesday, November 26th,1850.



Before Mr. Recorder, and the Second Jury.

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Reference Numbert18501125-9
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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9. THOMAS WALTERS was indicted for wilful and corrupt perjury.


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-10
VerdictsGuilty > pleaded guilty; Guilty > with recommendation; Not Guilty > unknown
SentencesImprisonment; Imprisonment

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10. JAMES STAFFORD and SAMUEL ROBERTS , stealing 1 sheep, value 2l.; the goods of John White Cator: and ELIZABETH STAFFORD feloniously receiving 30lbs. weight of mutton, part of the same: to which

ROBERTS pleaded GUILTY . Aged 32.— Confined Twelve Months.

MR. RYLAND conducted the Prosecution.

HENRY WADE . I am bailiff to John White Cator, of West Lodge, Enfield. On Thursday, 24th Oct., he had a hundred ewes, and one ram in a field—I counted them between seven and eight o'clock that morning; and again on Saturday morning about seven, when there was one missing— I searched and found the skin and entrails, and two unborn lambs in a ditch—it was fresh killed, and was skinned very neatly—the sheep were all marked with a round hole, and an "M" in it, and a dot on the right shoulder—I gave the skin to the police-sergeant—on Friday, 1st Nov., I went with Watkins to Mr. Goodson's, who sent Stafford to us—Watkins asked him what he knew about the sheep which was lost from Mr. Cator's—he at first said he knew nothing about it—the policeman said, "Yes; you do, you have heard something about it"—he said no he did not, for a minute; and then said, "About a month ago I went into a Tom and Jerry to have a pint of beer, and heard three or four railroad-men say there were some very good sheep on West Lodge, and he thought there would be some of them lost this winter"—the policeman asked him if he would allow him to search his house—he said, "Yes"—Mr. Pennyfather who was there said, "Stafford, just go and put my horse into the cart before you go"—he said "Yes," and went to do so—in a few minutes I went out, and could not find him—I and the policeman ran as fast as we could to his cottage—it was between nine and ten in the forenoon—Wakins asked the female prisoner whether Stafford had been in—she said no; he had not—he said, "Are you sure of it?"—she said, "I am,

—he has not been in here since he went out in the morning"—Watkins told her to dress herself, for they wanted to look into the house after some mutton which was lost from Mr. Gator's—she said she thought if we went over the other side of the hedge we should find something in the field—Watkins stepped out on the threshhold, and she tried to close the door against him, but he got in, and we searched the house—there were some mutton bones on the table—he asked her where she bought her mutton—she said at a butcher's at Enfield—in a room up-stairs I found one leg of mutton, one shoulder, one neck, one breast, and two pots of suet tied down—the bones on the table were from the neck, and I think the shoulder—Mrs. Stafford said a blackberry-man from London, named Sam, brought them there.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. This was Stafford's house? A. Yes; I had not known them before.

JOHN WATXINS (policeman). I went with Wade—I knew the Staffords before as man and wife—I found her in bed—she is near her confinement—she got up—I waited outside while she was dressing—she came and shut the door, and said, "Can't you allow me to shut the door while I am dressing?" and asked me what was the matter—I said, "I suppose you are aware a sheep was slaughtered belonging to this gentleman"—she said, "Yes; a few nights ago I heard some men talking about hiding something in the field"—I said, "I must search your house first, and most come in if you do not make haste"—in the cupboard I found two pots of suet, some bones on the table, and four joints of mutton up-stairs—she said, "A blackberry-man, from London, brought them"—I pressed my husband not to have anything to do with it, nor yet to take it in"—she gave me a very good description of Roberts—I asked if she knew his name—she said they called him Sam, and he lived at Oxford-street; which is right—I asked if she could tell the number—she said she knew no more about it, but neither her or her husband stole it, or brought it there—I said, "I must charge you with stealing it"—I saw Stafford come out of a butcher's cart belonging to Mr. Pennyfather—I ran and took him, and charged him with stealing the mutton—I cautioned him—he said, "I am not guilty of stealing it, I have been regularly drawn into it by a blackberry-man from London"—he said it was arranged that the blackberry-man was to come down at Christmas, and have another of that gentleman's sheep.

GEORGE PEAPELL (police-sergeant). On 1st Nov., I went to Stafford's cottage, and told his wife that I must take her into custody, and she said she was innocent, and so was her husband; a blackberry-man brought it to them—I asked her to describe him, which she did, and it answered the description of a man who I had seen gathering blackberries ten days previous.

SAMUEL BYFORD . I am a butcher. On 2nd Nov. I examined four joints of mutton at the station, and the skin of a ewe—I could not judge whether the joints belonged to the skin, they were so dirty, and had been cut up while the mutton was hot, but a portion of the udder was left on the joint, and a portion was deficient on the skin, but they were very dirty and I could not match them.

(James Stafford's statement before the Magistrate was here read, as follows:"I did not have any connection with the prisoner Roberts, till one night I was coming from my work; I came home from my labour and saw him and a man named Buckingham, his friend, sitting

outside my door, and when I went inside my wife said, "There is two men want to lie down somewhere;" she said she told them they could lie down in the shed; I did not see them again for a fortnight, when they both came again and asked leave to He down in the shed; my wife gave them have, and gave them a cup of tea—I did not see them any more till the time the man came down himself, and said he was blackberrying round Mr. Cator's fields and saw some very nice sheep there, and he thought he should very much like one of them—he came down again, and still kept saying about the gentleman's sheep, that he should like to have one, and thought he should have one before Christmas—he said, "Have you a mind to go?"—I said, "No; I won't have anything to do with it, for we are sure to get found out with it"—he said, "Oh, no; you have no occasion to be afraid of that, for I am a good butcher; I can take a skin off in twelve minutes, and no one would ever find out who had done it;" they would not suspect me, living near to the place—he kept persuading me, and said he could put that all right and square, and he could take half of it to London and make away with it, and if we were afraid to keep the remainder in the house, it would be best to hide it in some ditch—I made no further answer—he came down another night, last Thursday night week, and said, "Halloo! old fellow, I mean to have that mutton to-night"—I said, "I do not mean to have anything to do with it"—he said, "Why, I have brought the knife on purpose to night"—we had some supper, and after a time I went to bed—he still remained in the house, and kept on bothering me to get up and go and get it, till about twelve o'clock on the Thursday night—I got up and sat by the fire a little while—my wife said, "I would not have anything to do with it"—we went out of doors together—he went and stuck the sheep, skinned it, and it was taken to my house—he jointed it and took his five joints to London—he left the remainder in the house—I said, "I won't have it here, for I am sure we shall get found out about it"—he said, "If you are frightened to have it in the house, take it out into the ditch, and bury it if you are frightened to keep it"—then he said, "I will come down again on Sunday, and take it away with me"—he came down on Sunday, and said, "Have you heard any inquiry about it?"—I told him I had not—he said, "That's all right; then nobody will find it out; we will salt it"—he salted it down, and remained there the Sunday night—that is all, I believe—my wife did not have any hand in it; not the least.

(James Stafford received a good character.)

JAMES STAFFORD— GUILTY. Aged 24.—Recommended to mercy by

the Jury.— Confined One Month


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Reference Numbert18501125-11
VerdictsGuilty > pleaded guilty

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11. JAMES SIMPSON , stealing 13 printed books, value 20s.; the goods of Edward Vaughan Richards, Esq.: also, stealing 170 printed books, 20l.; the goods of Josiah Wilkinson, Esq.: also, stealing 102 printed books, 10l.; the goods of George Hammond Whalley, Esq.: to all of which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 59.— Confined Twelve Months.

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VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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12. HENRY LEWLAND , stealing a handkerchief, value 2s.; the goods of Henry Cayley, from his person: having been before convicted: to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Seven Years.

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Reference Numbert18501125-13
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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13. WILLIAM MATTHEWS , for embezzling 10l.; the moneys of David Braun and another, his masters: to which he pleaded

GUILTY. Aged 26.—Recommended to mercy. Confined Three Months

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VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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14. EDWARD WILLIAM ENGLISH, Stealing 3lbs. weight of pepper, value 2s. 6d.; the goods of George Batty and another, his masters.

MR. COOPER conducted the Prosecution.

GEORGE MILLS HILL . I am warehouseman to George Batty and anothor, export oilmen, of Leadenhall-street and Finsbury-pavement. The prisoner was their porter—no goods were sold retail in the ware-house in which he was employed—on 13th Nov. 1 was told something, and next day, between eleven and twelve o'clock, I saw a bag under the counter, at the extreme corner of the warehouse, with a dirty shirt over it—I opened it—it contained about 3lbs. of pepper—I saw it there again, at five minutes past five.

GEORGE SPENCE . I am a porter, in Messrs. Batty's service. On 14th Nov. I saw the prisoner go into the top warehouse, between eight and nine o'clock—in two or three minutes he came down, with a parcel under his apron—he put it under the counter on the second-floor, brought out an old shirt, and said he had lost that shirt three weeks, and had just found it, and he supposed it fell out of his hat, which be kept undcr the counter in that corner—I never knew he had lost a shirt—soon afterwards he was sent out of the warehouse, and I told Hook way, who is over me—he examined the corner in my presence, but I did not see what he found—the prisoner returned to the warehouse at five o'clock, when we went to tea—he stopped in the corner, and wrapped the parcel up in the shirt—I had not examined it.

FREDERICK HOOKWAY . I am in Messrs. Batty's employ, and manage the room in which the prisoner was employed—I examined the bundle under the counter, it contained about 3lbs. of pepper, and put it back again—the prisoner was down-stairs then—he returned, and about five o'clock he passed me, in the middle of the floor, with a parcel under his arm—I called down the speaking-pipe to Mr. Hill, and be answered me—I then went and looked for the parcel, but could not find it—I have never seen it since.

Prisoner. Q. Has not the boy got a place in the same corner, where he keeps his toys? A. His box used to be there, but it was not there then.

MARY ANN MASSAM . I worked in the same room as the prisoner. On 14th Nov. the prisoner came down from the upper ✗floor, where the spices are kept, to our floor—he had something behind the lappet of his coat—he placed it in a corner under the counter where he was at work—it was a linen bag—he pulled a shirt out, and said, "I have found a shirt which has been lost for some time"—he rolled it up, and put it back—at tea-time I saw him take it, wrap it in the shirt, and go down the yard.

JOHN MARK BULL (City policeman,151) On the evening of 14th Nov. I went to Messrs. Batty's, and afterwards to the prisoner's lodging, 5, Gunpowder-alley, Crutched-friars, about a quarter-past five o'clock—I told him I wanted that 3lbs. of black pepper which he had a few minutes previously brought away from Messrs. Batty's—he said, "I brought away no pepper, all I brought away was this," producing an old. ragged shirt,

which I had seen in the morning in the warehouse, covered over the pepper.

Prisoner. Q. Did not I give you every assistance in searching? A. Yes; I found no pepper.

Prisoner's Defence. This is a conspiracy; one witness says I brought it down in my apron, the other under the tail of my coat; I had had my dinner wrapped up in that shirt, three or four weeks before, and lost it; I came down from the top room with a few pots of anchovy paste in my apron, and put them on the counter; I then saw the shirt; I saw a parcel there, and left it there; I went out with the cart at eleven o'clock, and when I came back it was still there; at five o'clock it was extremely dark; I folded up the shirt, put it under my arm, and walked home; I even joined in conversation with some of the men in the yard; the porter said nothing to me; I sat down right in the middle of the room with the shirt, and a voice called, "English, where is the pepper? you brought it out in your dirty shirt;" I said, "Nonsense, here is my dirty shirt;" Massam has many times urged me to get her a bit of sugar; there are women and labourers running up and down-stairs all day.

MARY ANN MASSAM re-examined. The prisoner did not bring down any pots with him—nothing was kept in that corner but metallic caps for bottles—any one could go there that liked—I am sure I saw him put the parcel into the shirt.

MR. HILL re-examined. We had arranged that if the parcel was missed a signal should be given to me, and some one was to be at the door, but I understood he was not there to carry out the signal I made, and therefore the prisoner passed.


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Reference Numbert18501125-15
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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15. THOMAS PERRY , stealing 1 watch, value 30l.; of William Eason, from his person: to which he pleaded


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VerdictGuilty > unknown

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16. THOMAS PERRY was again indicted for stealing 1 watch, value 5l.; the goods of George Crouch, from his person.

MR. LAWRENCE conducted the Prosecution.

GEORGE CROUCH . I am a carrier, of 3, Tudor-street, Blackfriars. On the afternoon of 12th Nov. I was going out—the wheel of a coal-wagon had come off about ten yards from my door, and there were forty or fifty people there—I could not get past—I stood for a minute—there were two persons behind me, and one in front—I felt something, as if my chain was being put into my waistcoat pocket—I pulled it, and found my watch was gone—I gave an alarm, and a man, who has since been summarily convicted, started off—I tried to follow—the prisoner caught hold of my collar, and said, "What is the matter?"—I got away, and followed the other—I was sent for to Guildhall on the Wednesday week following, and picked out the prisoner from a number of others in the dock—nobody pointed him out to me.

PETER JOHN CROUCH . (This witness was deaf and dumb, and gave his evidence through an interpreter.)I am the prosecutor's son. On 12th Nov., about half-past three o'clock in the afternoon, I was standing at the first-floor window and saw a crowd—the prisoner and another man stood behind my father—the other man took my father's watch from his pocket, and gave it to the prisoner—I ran down to the people in the shop—I am

certain the prisoner is the man—I was not quite the width of this Court from him—I did not know him before—I saw biro again at Guildhall, and pointed him out.

Prisoner. Q. Was the window shut? A. Open—I am certain it was a watch the man gave you—I followed my father and met him.

Prisoner's Defence. On 12th Nov., at half-past one o'clock, I went from the Waterloo station to Kingston; a policeman, in private clothes, was in the same train with me; I cannot get his number; I sent the policeman to look for him, and to bring him here; the other prisoner could prove I was not in his company; the policeman pointed me out to the witnesses.

GEORGE FREDERICK LEONARD MOLLINEUX ( City-policeman,293). I was at Guildhall when Mr. Crouch identified the prisoner—there were six or seven persons in the dock by him, prisoners and policemen—I was in plain clothes—the prisoner stood on the stairs with me, ready to go up for examination—there were about four prisoners there—I did not point the prisoner out at all—Mr. Crouch came and made signs to his son, who pointed to the prisoner.

MR. CROUCH re-examined. I never saw the prisoner before—there were two persons at the bar, and the prisoner and the policeman stood on the stairs—signs were made to my son to know if he could see the man that took my watch—he looked round, and pointed out the prisoner—I had pointed him out before that to the policeman, but my son could not hear.

GUILTY.*†Aged 21.— Transported for Ten Years.

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VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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17. NOAH HART , embezzling the sums of 1s. 8d.,10d., and 3s. 4d,; the moneys of Nathaniel Bishop, his master: to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Three Months.

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Reference Numbert18501125-18
VerdictsGuilty > pleaded guilty

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18. JOHN JONES , stealing two sheets, 1 pillow-case, and 1 towel, value 5s.; the goods of James Cooper:— also 2 sheets, 1 pillow-case, and 1 towel, 10s.; the goods of Henry Hunt:— also 2 sheets, and 1 pillow-case, 6s. 6d.; the goods of Charles Dixon: to all of which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined Twelve Months.

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Reference Numbert18501125-19
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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19. THOMAS COWARD , embezzling 4l. 7s. 6d.; the goods of Henry Adolph Hasselbrock, his master: to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined Six Months.

NEW COURT.—Tuesday, November 26th,1850.



Before Mr. Common Serjeant, and the Seventh Jury.

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Reference Numbert18501125-20
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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20. LOVEDAY WESTKETT , stealing 21bs. weight of mutton, value 18d.; the goods of Peter John Thomas Pearse.

MR. COOPER conducted the Prosecution.

CHARLES MOORE (police-sergeant, B 1). On the evening of 12th Nov., I was near Eccleston-terrace, South Pimlico. I saw a female leave

a house about half-past eight o'clock with something under her shawl—I stopped her, and asked what she had got—she said she could not tell, but her sister gave it her at that house—I went to the house, and inquired for Mr. Pearse; he was not at home, but I saw the prisoner, who said to the other woman, "You fool! why did you tell him where you came from?"—I took the woman to the station—she was set at liberty—I found two pounds and three-quarters of mutton in the bundle, and some other things—the prisoner said she bought the meat in Knightsbridge, but she could not tell the shop—it was produced before the Magistrate.

Prisoner. I offered to take you to the shop where I bought the mutton. Witness. No.

THOMAS ASHLEY . I am in the service of a butcher, in Rochester-row—he serves Mr. Pearse—I was before the Magistrate—I saw a piece of mutton there which I knew—I cut it myself—the prisoner had that mutton on the 12th Nov., and on the morning of the 13th she came three times, the first time at half-past six o'clock, then between seven and eight, and then again—she wanted to see my mistress, and she saw her the third time—I did not hear what she said to her—she had ordered this mutton, and it was sent with some more meat.

Prisoner. I wanted to know the weight of this piece; it was not for Mr. Pearse. Witness. The meat was all sent to Mr. Pearse—it was a neck of mutton—the beef, and pork, and mutton were all weighed together—I believe you offered to pay for the mutton.

PETER JOHN THOMAS PEARSE . I am a solicitor, and live at No. 2, Eccleston-terrace. The prisoner was my cook, and had been about a fortnight—on the night of 12th Nov., on returning home, I heard a person was taken to the station—I went, and she was liberated—I had some conversation with the prisoner—she stated that the meat had been bought at Knightsbridge, and the soap, and candles, and other things also—there was some cooked meat there—I said I should not take any notice of that if I found that the uncooked meat was not charged in my butcher's bill—I found it had been charged to me—the prisoner brought another piece of meat, and said it was not mine.

Prisoner. Q. Was not your butcher's bill 8s. less the week I was there than it had been before? A. It was something less, I do not know what.

Prisoner's Defence. I have been in the habit of buying meat for myself; these things were put together by mistake.

GUILTY. Aged 32.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury and Prosecutor.

Confined One Month.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-21
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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21. JOSEPH THOMAS BETHELL JONES , was indicted for unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-22
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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22. WILLIAM YEOMAN was indicted for a like offence; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Six Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-23
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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23. WILLIAM BROWN and JOHN BURTON were indicted for a like offence. MESSRS. ELLIS and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.

LOUISA BRODIE . I am the wife of Henry Brodie, who keeps the Sutton Arms, in Carthusian-street. On 1st Nov. two men came in company,

and had half a quartern of gin—I received a shilling from one of them—I placed it on three 4d.-pieces which were on the top of a pile of silver on a shelf—I did not detect that it was bad—I gave them a six-pence and fourpence change, and they went away—Archer directly afterwards spoke to me, and in consequence of what he said I looked at the shilling and found it was bad—I gave it to Archer.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Had you no silver in the till? A. No; I am sure I put this shilling on the top of the 4d.-pieces—it was about twenty-five minutes past five o'clock—it was rather dark—the gas had been lighted before that, but Archer turned it on more fully.

JAMES ARCHER . I am waiter at the Sutton Arms. On 2nd Nov., I saw both the prisoners there, about twenty-five minutes past five in the afternoon—they came together—I am sure they are the persons—I turned on the gas and viewed their features—they went out together—I had beard about this shilling, and I followed them—they went on together to the White Horse, in Fann-street—Brown waited outside, and Burton went in—I spoke to a policeman—I then saw the policeman in the White Hart—the policeman laid hold of Brown—I said, "I want you for passing a bad shilling in Carthusian-street"—they both said they had not been there—I got a shilling from Mrs. Brodie and gave it to the policeman.

LOUISA KENT . I am the wife of William Kent. The White Horse is kept by Mr. Atkins, my brother-in-law. On 1st Nov. the two prisoners came in, about half-past five o'clock, for half a quartern of gin—Brown gave me a shilling, I gave a sixpence and fourpence in change, not supposing the shilling was bad—I put the shilling into a bowl in the till, where there were no others—in about two minutes, in consequence of what the officer said, I went to the till, found the shilling, and gave it to the policeman.

Cross-examined. Q. Did not the policeman ask you what these men had given you? A. He asked what money I had taken of them—I said a shilling, and I took it out of the till and showed it to him—he first thought it was good—he then tried it with his teeth, and I think he compared it with another shilling—I gave him the same shilling I took from the prisoners.

JOHN CORBLE (City-policeman,139) I went to the White Horse with Archer. I saw the prisoners in the bar before I went in, and saw Brown receive some change from Mrs. Kent—the prisoners were then coining out—I then went in with Archer and stopped them—I told them they were charged with passing a bad shilling at the Sutton Arms—they both denied it, and said they had not been there—Mrs. Kent gave me a shilling, and I found it was bad—I found on Burton three shillings in silver, and sixpence in copper, and some silver and copper on Brown—I had received this other shilling from Archer at the time I received this shilling from Mrs. Kent—I compared them.

Cross-examined. Q. When you got the shilling from Mrs. Kent you thought it was good? A. Yes; then I tried it with my teeth—this is the one I got from Archer—he had marked it—I did not see him mark it.

JAMES ARCHER re-examined. This is the shilling I marked with my teeth at the bar.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . I am inspector of coin to the Royal Mint. These shillings are both counterfeit.

BROWN— GUILTY.* Aged 24.


Confined Twelve Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-24
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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24. ELLEN COSTELLO was indicted for a like offence.

MR. BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.

EMMA COXALL . I am cook at Mrs. Earle's, at Kensington-crescent. On 29th Oct. the prisoner came to my mistress's house, to buy hare-skins and rabbit-skins—she was calling outside, and I went to the area-gate—I had two hare-skins to sell; she said she would give me 4d. for them—she gave me a shilling, and asked me to give her change—I had not change, and I took the shilling up to my mistress, and she gave me change—I put the shilling on the dining-room table—that was between twelve and one o'clock in the day—the prisoner came again next morning, about nine—she had told me the day before that if I had anything more to sell, she would buy it—when she came I had another skin to sell, and some rags—she said she would give me 6d. for them—she gave me a shilling; I took it in-doors, and found it was bad—I told her to wait; and I went and fetched a policeman, and she was taken—I gave both the shillings to the officer—my fellow-servant had brought me the shilling that I had put on the dining-room table—I had not put any mark on it before I put it on the table—I had not noticed that it was bad.

MARY ANN EARLE . I reside at Kensington-crescent. Coxall is my cook—on 29th Oct. I was in my dining-room—she came in with a shilling, between twelve and one o'clock in the day—she put it on the table—there was no other shilling there—my housemaid afterwards came in—I did not see her do anything with the shilling, but after she had been there I noticed a shilling on the mantel-piece—that was between two and three—there was no other shilling there.

SUSAN TINDER . I am housemaid to Mrs. Earle. On the day this matter occurred I went into the dining-room to lay the cloth, about twenty minutes before two o'clock—I saw a shilling on the dining-table—I put it on the mantel-shelf; in the evening I took it from the mantel-shelf, took it to the public-house, and gave it to the bar-maid—she said it was bad—I took it back to my mistress, and she told me to take it to the cook, which I did.

ROBERT ARMITAGE (policeman, T 187). I took the prisoner into custody on the morning of 30th Oct., at Mrs. Earle's house—I received these two shillings—the prisoner said she had never seen the cook before—8 1/2 d. was found on her there.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . These are both counterfeit.

GUILTY.* Aged 28.— Confined Twelve Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-25
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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25. MARGARET PIKE , unlawfully having counterfeit coin in her possession, with intent to utter it.

MESSRS. ELLIS and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.

JAMES BRANNAN (police-inspector). On 13th Nov. I was applied to by a witness, and accompanied him to the City-road about nine or ten o'clock—I saw a cart, and the prisoner in it, opposite the Green Gate—I ordered an officer to lead the cart to the station—I watched on one side of the cart, and I directed an officer to watch on the other—they took the cart along Bath-street, and I saw the prisoner lean over the cart, and beat the horse with her clenched fist several times—I then saw her put her hand under the horse's tail, and from it I saw a small black parcel drop—I called sergeant Harvey's attention to it—I saw it opened at the station, and twenty-six counterfeit shillings were in it.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. You did not tee the cart till your attention was called to it by another person? A. No; I had not seen any man in it.

JEREMIAH GILMAN . I am a commission-agent I live in Britannia-street—I was with Brannan—I observed the prisoner in the cart as it was going along—she leaned over the cart, and beat the horse with her fist—I saw her put her hand under the horse's tail, and drop a black parcel.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you seen the cart before? A. Yes, for upwards of half an hour—it was driven about several times—sometimes the prisoner drove it, and sometimes a man was with her—the man went to the station—he was taken before the Magistrate, and discharged—I had seen the cart about half an hour—I thought it was a stolen cart, and that was why I mentioned it to Mr. Brannan—I saw the man go into the Eagle Tavern, and when he was gone, the prisoner was left with the cart.

JOHN HARVEY (police-sergeant, G 14). I was with the inspector, and saw the parcel drop from under the horse's tail—the prisoner bad one hand on the cart, and the other under the horse's tail—I picked up this bag, containing twenty-six counterfeit shillings.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . These are all bad; nine of them are from one mould, and seventeen from another.

GUILTY.* Aged 30.— Confined Eighteen Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-26
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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26. JOHN WATSON, THOMAS JONES , and ANN CLAYDON , were indicted for unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.

MESSRS. BODKIN and CLERK conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN ATKINS . I keep a public-house m Darkhouse-lane, Billingsgate. On Saturday, 16th Nov., Watson and Jones came to my house about half-past five o'clock—Jones asked for a pint of beer, which came to 2d., and offered me a bad shilling—I told him to take it to the next house, it was no use to me—he then gave me a good shilling, which he had in his hand—I told him if he knew the other was bad, what did he tender it for—he said be was not aware of it—he said he knew who he took it of—I told him to take it back, and not to attempt to pass it anywhere else—he took it, and went away—Watson seemed rather more suprised than Jones, and he looked at the shilling as if he was near-sighted.

JOHN STRICKLAND ( City-policeman,582). On 16th Nov. I was at Mr. Atkins', and saw Watson and Jones there, and a woman, but I could not swear it was Claydon—she was sitting behind the door—they were all sitting at one table—I was afterwards called to the White Horse, in Botolph-lane, and took Jones into custody—I took him to the station, and found on him 4s. 8 1/2 d., in good money.

ELIZABETH RAYMENT . My husband keeps the White Horse, in Botolphlane. On Saturday, 16th Nov., about six o'clock in the evening, Watson and Jones came to my house together—they asked for a pint of porter—one of them gave me a shilling—they both drank the beer—I put the shilling into the till, where there was no other shilling—they went away, and in ten minutes they came back, and asked for half-a-quartern of the best shrub—I remembered them again, and 1 had ascertained that the shilling was bad—I called my husband, and showed him the second shilling—he found it was bad—Watson and Jones were then given into custody, and

taken away—soon afterwards Claydon came in, and asked for a pint of porter—she gave me a half-crown, I examined it with my teeth, and found it was bad—I told her so—she then desired me to take half the porter back, which I did, and she paid me with a penny out of her hand—she was taken into custody, and the half-crown was given to the constable—my husband took possession of the shillings.

EDWARD RAYMENT . I was in my house on 16th Nov.—Thomas Thatcher was there—I gave him the two shillings spoken of by my wife—he is a fellowship-porter.

Watson. You said he gave you half-a-crown, and you gave him one shilling out of your pocket, and one shilling out of the till. Witness. I gave one shilling out of the till, which was the only one there, and I took one shilling out of my pocket—I sent them into the parlour by the boy—he brought one back, and said it was a bad one—I could not say whether the one I took out of my pocket was good or bad, I did not notice it—I gave both the shillings to the boy—I cannot say whether the one he brought me back was the one I took out of my pocket, or from the till—when I accused Watson and Jones with it, they said they had not been inmy house that evening before.

WILLIAM BANKS . They call me John—I brought a halfcrown to my master, and be gave me two shillings, one out of his pocket, and the other from the till—I took them to the person who gave me the half-crown—he gave me one shilling back, and said it was bad—I took it back to my master—I cannot say whether the shilling that was said to be bad came out of my master's pocket or out of the till.

THOMAS SIDNEY THATCHER . I am a fellowship-porter. On that Saturday evening I was in Mr. Rayraent's—I saw two shillings and some halfpence brought into the parlour—I bit one of the shillings, and found it was bad—I afterwards saw Watson outside the bar, and Mr. Rayment was inside, and he was holding Watson by the collar—I then received another bad shilling from him—I kept them both in my hand, and gave them to the policeman—I bit the first shilling, and chucked it down on the table—the boy took it back.

WILLIAM JENNINGS (City-policeman,565). I received the two shillings on 16th Nov., and I took Watson into custody—I found one shilling and sixpence in copper on him.

WILLIAM CLAYTON ( City-policeman,520). On 16th Nov., I was on duty in Lower Thames-street—I saw the three prisoners in company near Darkhouse-lane, about six o'clock—they stood talking two or three minutes—that is about a hundred yards from the public-house—I am quite sure Clayton was the woman—soon afterwards I was called to the White Hart—I found Clayton there, and she was taken into custody—she had this mug in her hand—I asked where she lived—she said, "The second turning up Botolph-lane"—I asked her the number—she said she could not tell—I said, "We will go and see the number"—she then said, "I don't live there"—I observed that the mug was cracked—I asked her again where she lived, and she said, "In Back Church-lane"—I said, "This is a long way to come for beer?"—she said, "I was out, and I bought this mug this evening to take the beer home"—I said, "You were unfortunate to break it the first evening?"—she said, "Yes, I broke it against a post"—I noticed that the crack was an old one.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . This halfcrown and two shillings are all counterfeit.

Watson's Defence. I did not know the shilling was bad.


JONES— GUILTY . Aged 34.


Confined Six Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-27
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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27. ESTHER SMITH was indicted for a like offence.

MESSRS. BODKIN and CLERK conducted the Prosecution.

JAMES WILLIS . I live in Sloane-street, Chelsea, and am a draper. On 11th Nov., the prisoner came to my shop for a shawl-pin—it came to a penny—she gave me a sixpence—I found it was bad, and I told her so—] she said she did not know it—I sent for the policeman, and gave him the sixpence—the prisoner had been at my shop ten or twelve days previous—she then asked for a shawl-pin, and paid me with a bad shilling—I put that in the cash-box with gold, apart from all other shillings—it remained there till the 11th, when the prisoner came again—I gave the shilling and sixpence to the officer.

Prisoner. Q. You said it was not me, it was the other girl, and if I would tell you who it was you would not give me in charge? A. No, I did not.

JOHN JARVIS (policeman, B 72.) I took the prisoner in custody on 11th Nov.—I received this sixpence and shilling from Mr. Willis—I found nothing on the prisoner.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . These are both counterfeit.

Prisoner s Defence. I went to the shop for a shawl-pin; I saw a young woman there, and gave her 2d. for one.

MR. WILLIS re-examined. I have not the slightest doubt that the prisoner gave me the shilling—I examined it, and thought it was good—I then thought it was bad, and went to the door to stop her, but she was gone.

GUILTY. Aged 17.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury on account of

her Youth— Confined Three Months

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-28
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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28. CHARLES POWELL , unlawfully obtaining money by false pretences.


OLD COURT.—Wednesday, November 27th,1850.


Before Mr. Baron Alderson, and the Third Jury.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-29
VerdictsGuilty > pleaded guilty

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29. EDWARD MATTHEW MACKLIN , stealing 6 umbrellas, value 5l.; also 413 yards of silk, 91l.; also 97 yards of satin, 85 yards of silk serge, and 83 yards of satin, 74l.; also 47 scarfs, 21l.; also 767 yards of black silk serge, 57 yards of satin, and 82 yards of silk, 179l.; also 54 yards of satin, 31l.; also 264 yards of plush, 94l.; also 144 yards of glace silk, 36l.; also embezzling and stealing 98 yards of plush, 17l.; the goods of Edward Henry Davies, his master: to all which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 37.— Transported for Fourteen Years.

(The prosecutor estimated his loss at 600l.)

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-30
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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30. ARCHIBALD LOUDEN and DAVID COOPER , feloniously setting fire to a stack of straw, with intent to injure William Doubleday and another.

MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS PURDY (policeman, T 68). On 5th Nov. I was at Lampton, in the parish of Heston—about ten minutes to eight o'clock I saw a fire towards Hounslow—I went, and found a rick burning in Mr. Doubleday's brickfield—just as I got there I met Mary Ann Bowles—I received information, and went with sergeant Scotney, about half-past ten at night, to Lampton, where the prisoners lived near each other—we took them to the brickfield, took their shoes with us, and made impressions by the side of some foot-marks there—they corresponded in size, nails, and tips—these are the shoes (produced)—the nails agreed in the difference between the rows—I did not count them—we compared a great many marks of two persons coming and two going away—we traced them right up to the hedge against which the rick was built—they came from the Lampton-road to the middle of the field, and then one went one way and one the other—there were marks from the road to the rick, and from the rick to the road again of two pairs of shoes—a bonfire was burning in that field when I got there; it was 150 yards or more from the straw rick—it did not make a great deal of light—it was made of wood and brushwood—there was no effigy or Guy Fawkes—there was a little wind, but not much—it blew from the rick to the bonfire, or partly so—a good many persons were round the bonfire when I got there, and a good many had got up to the rick, which was nearly all on fire, it was so dry—the side next to the bonfire was the least burnt.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Have you measured the distance between the bonfire and the rick? A. Yes, with my sergeant; it is 150 yards or more—the smoke and fire blew towards the bonfire, but rather to the left of it—I heard no fireworks let off—I was not there before the fire was lighted—there were other bonfires, but not near—the prisoners came close up to the rick when it was burning, in a direction from their own houses—(The witness here pointed out upon a plan the situation of the rick and foot-marks.)

COURT. Q. I see by the plan there is a wheat-stack in the field? A. Yes; that is worth a great deal more than the rick of straw, it also belonged to Mr. Doubleday—anybody wishing to injure him would have burnt the wheat-stack.

MARY ANN BOWLES . I live with my father and mother at Mr. Doubleday's brickfield. I know the prisoners—on 5th Nov., about half-past seven o'clock in the evening, I saw them together about 200 yards from the straw rick, going from Hounslow towards Lampton—that would take them towards the stack—I passed them on the road—I was going into Hounslow, which is about 240 yards further on—when I came back, I went into my master's gate, which is about fifty yards from the rick, and saw them again nearer to the stack going towards Hounslow—they were opposite my master's gate—I came out again in about three minutes, and

saw them going towards Lampton, nearer to the rick than to my master's gate—there was no fire then—I first saw the fire about ten minutes after eight—I saw Purdy, and told him.

Cross-examined. Q. How far was the bonfire from the stack? A. About 253 yards I have heard—I had not been looking at the fire long before I saw the prisoners—the fire broke out before the prisoners came up to the rick—the first time I saw them was at the bonfire—I was in the lane—the bonfire was not alight then—it was known that there was to be a bonfire; my brothers and other children made it, and we thought of setting fire to it at eight o'clock—we had some lucifers at the end of the field where the bonfire was—I was not there when it was lighted—my brothers and sister wanted some lucifers, but mother would not let us have them—she had none—the fire was made of sticks and stinging-nettles—the boys did not carry about lighted sticks—I know the prisoners—they spoke to me—they used to work in the field—they only spoke to me the first time I saw them—they said, "Well, Mary, when are you going to set light to the bonfire?"—I said when my brothers came back I thought they would light it—they were at Hounslow with a Guy Fawkes—there were 6ome fireworks at the bonfire; the wind blew towards it.

JOHN SCOTNEY (police-sergeant, T 18). I went to the fire with a lantern—I traced foot-marks from a gap in the hedge 140 yards from the rick, right up to it—in consequence of what Bowles said, I went to London's house, and found him in bed—I said I wanted him, on suspicion of setting fire to Mr. Doubleday's rick of straw—he said he knew nothing about it—I took his shoes, and compared them with the foot-marks—they agreed in I should say twenty instances.

COURT. Q. How far was the bonfire from the rick? A. 154 yards, I measured it; from the gap in the hedge to the rick was 140 yards.


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-31
VerdictsNot Guilty > no prosecutor; Not Guilty > unknown

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31. JOHN WAKEHAM EDWARDS , feloniously attempting to procure the miscarriage of Elizabeth Hobbs, by the use of a certain instrument.

(The prosecutrix did not appear.)


There were two other indictments against the prisoner for a like offence, on both which a verdict was taken of


Before Mr. Baron Martin.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-32
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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32. GEORGE HARCOURT , for feloniously forging and uttering an acquittance and receipt for the payment of 4l. 5s. 10d., with intent to defraud the Whitehaven and Furness Junction Railway Company.—Other COUNTS, varying the manner of stating the charge.

MESSRS. CLARKSON and PARNELL conducted the Prosecution.

GEORGE HILL WINGATE . I am an insurance-broker, and live at Glasgow. In Feb., 1848, I was a shareholder in the Whitehaven and Furness Junction Railway Company—I was at that time in arrear of one call—the name of "Geo. H. Wingate, Glasgow," to these two warrants (looking at them), is not my writing—I gave no authority to any one to sign them—if I had not been in arrear at that time, I should have been entitled to one warrant of this description, for about 4l. 5s. 10d.—on

18th Feb. I was in Scotland, and on 12th also—I do not at all know the handwriting on these warrants.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q This warrant contains the receipt at the bottom, does it? A. Yes; I know nothing of either of the signatures—I had been a shareholder of this Company, I think, from 1845—I was not at all acquainted with Mr. Meyer, the secretary; or Mr. Roy, the solicitor.

WILLIAM BAILEY . I am the accountant of the Whitehaven and Furness Junction Railway Company. I produce the cash-book of the Company—I know the prisoner's handwriting—I have looked through the cash-book—it was usually kept by the prisoner, I should say solely, from the time I took up the books of the Company—I find here an entry, in his handwriting, of 17th Jan., 1848, of a payment of 4l. 5s. 4d., to a shareholder of the name of John Duncaft—I find by the examination of the books that Duncaft was entitled to interest at that time—interest warrants are first arranged alphabetically, according to the persons entitled to them; they are subsequently numbered consecutively, but the numbers never appear in the cash-book—this entry indicates that an interest warrant has been issued to a party who was entitled to it—this (produced)is Duncaft's interest warrant, paid by the bankers—it is No. 29—there is an entry in the cash-book, on 12th Feb., of 4l. 5s. 10d., to John Duncaft—this warrant (produced), issued to Wingate, is the warrant applicable to that payment, paid by the bankers, and cancelled by them—(this was numbered "113," and was for the payment of 4l. 9s. 10d. interest on the deposits on calls from 1st July, 1847, to 1st Dec.; the receipt was, "12th Feb., 1848. Received the sum of 4l. 5s. 10d., being the amount of interest due to me, as above."—Signed,"GEO. H. WINGATE, Glasgow")—the date should be put in by the proprietor—I believe it was the invariable practice at that time to issue receipts in blank—the 12th indicates the date when it was paid by the bankers—on 16th Feb. I find an entry in the cash-book, in the prisoner's handwriting, of another sum of 4l. 5s. 10d., paid to Wingate; that is for interest upon calls from 1st July, 1847, to 1st Dec, in the first year; and it would be payable at the beginning of the following year—there could not have been two dividends payable to Wingate between 1st June and 1st Dec, 1847; nor could there have been two interest warrants issued to Duncaft or Wingate for the same time—the entry in the cash-book of the first warrant to Duncaft corresponds with the warrant—the entry of the second, on 12th Feb., applies to Wingate, and is entered in the cash-book to Duncaft—the cash-book is made up from the pass-book, it should be a fac-simile of the pass-book—the pass-book would pass through the prisoner's hand—(looking at the pass-book)I find here an entry, on 17th Jan., 1848, of the payment by the bankers of Mr. Duncaft's interest—the entry is, "Jan. 17th, Duncaft, 4l. 5s. 4d."—on 12th Feb. there is an entry of "No. 113, 4l. 5s. 10d."—on 16th there is an entry of 4l. 5s. 10d., as paid to Geo. H. Wingate.

THOMAS MATTHEW CLARK KAY . I am one of the clerks in the London Joint-Stock Banking Company. I paid this warrant, dated 18th Feb., and numbered 113—I find my initials on it—it was cancelled by me—I paid it on 18th Feb.—the previous date in the pass-book is the 16th, and the date of 18th is omitted to be put in here—I cannot explain why it is sometimes entered by the numbers, and at other times by the name.

MR. BAILEY re-examined. If an entry was made of a number in the pass-book, the prisoner would know to whose name to enter it by reference to a document that would be made at the time the interest warrants were issued, where be would see that 113 was a warrant issued in the name of George H. Wingate—when the bankers' pass-book is made up, the warrants are returned to the office, and would be in the hands of the clerks in the office when making up the cash-book—it is their business to do it from what is called cancelled vouchers, and the cash-book is checked by those cancelled vouchers—in the many pass-books that have come into my hands, I have found it almost invariably the case that they add up the amounts from time to time—(it was stated that the pass-book was balanced up to 20th Feb).—I should say that the warrant for Duncaft's interest for 17th Jan. is signed by Mr. Meyer, the secretary, as far as I am able to judge from having seen a great deal of his writing—from the character of the writing, I should say it was filled up by the prisoner—the name "John Duncaft," and the "No. 29," and also the figures—the body of the receipt, I should say from the general character of the writing, is made up by John Duncaft, the person to whom the warrant is payable—that is what I understood to be the practice at that time—I do not know Duncaft—it is not the prisoner's writing—I believe the body of the receipt of 12th Feb. to be in the prisoner's handwriting—that purports to be signed by Meyer—I should say the date "12th Feb." is in the prisoner's writing—the word "five" is very much like his, and the "8" in 1848—part of this is printed, and part is written—I have my doubts about the signature, I cannot speak positively about it, from its general character, I should say it was his; I should be sorry to swear positively it was his—I have no doubt as to my opinion—my opinion is that it is the prisoner's signature—I believe the body of the warrant of the 18th Feb. to be in the prisoner's writing—it purports to be signed by Meyer, the secretary—the written part of the body of the receipt I believe to be the prisoner's writing: I speak more positively of that than the other, from the general character of his writing which 1 have met with—I think the 4l. 5s. 10d. is his, and the signature also.

COURT. Q. In the genuine warrant the name of Wingate is written plainly, and in the other it is partly obliterated. A. That is done at the bank; all they look at is the secretary's name—in this other warrant they have cancelled Duncaft's name and left Meyer's—the genuine ones are the incorrect ones.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. What is the office that you hold now, are you the successor of Mr. Meyer? A. I am not; I was called in by order of the chairman—I am the accountant of the Company, Mr. George Knox is the secretary—I am a regular servant of the Company; that was the understanding with which I went in to investigate these accounts—I was appointed by Lord Lonsdale, the chairman, and the deputy-chairman—I have been in that position from the early part of June—I had never seen the prisoner before that—I have seen him write since I have been in the Company's service—he was there with me on and off for a fortnight or three weeks—I saw him write, I should say, twice or thrice—he was making up the interest warrants for the last half-year—Meyer was also there at that time—a person named Hearn was also in the office, no one else that I know of—Hearn is alive as far as I know—he might have been there perhaps a week before me—Mr. Roy was solicitor

to the Company at that time—I cannot say that I have looked over the cash-book with Mr. Roy, I do not think I have—he has not pointed out certain things to me as connected with the prisoner's hand-writing—when I first discovered the 4l. 5s. 10d., he said, "That is Harcourt's writing, don't you think it is?" and I said, "Yes, I have no doubt it is"—that was when I first detected the issue of the two warrants for 4l. 5s. 10d.—Mr. Roy did not say that he had known his handwriting for a long time, and he was quite sure about it—I do not know that anything further was said about it—I cannot tell you where Mr. Roy is now, he was at the police-court conducting the prosecution at the first, and second hearings—I never heard of a charge of embezzlement made by the prisoner against Mr. Roy, or any charge of making a false entry in the hooks, and of keeping back the income-tax—I have never heard of such a charge—I never heard of any charge made to Lord Lonsdale of false entry in the books; this is the first I have heard of it—I did not hear you ask these questions at the police-court—you asked Mr. Knox some questions which I could not distinctly understand—1 think that was at the first examination, therefore Mr. Roy would be present—I do not recollect the witness's attention being pointed by you to Mr. Roy, by asking, "Is that Mr. Roy?"—I cannot tell you where Mr. Roy is now; I have nothing more to do with Mr. Roy than I have with you, and know nothing about his movements—he is the solicitor for this prosecution.

Q. Am I to understand you to swear that you have not heard of any complaint made by the prisoner to Lord Lonsdale about Mr. Roy? A. I have heard by conversation passing between the prisoner and Mr. Meyer while I was at my duties in the inner room, that there were wrong entries in the call-book, at least wrong dates—I do not know that any charge was made by the prisoner against Mr. Roy on that account; it was mere matter of conversation that used to pass—I have not seen a letter written by the ✗prisoner to Lord Lonsdale—I know nothing, except by hearsay, of a trial that was going on in Scotland; I was not in the office at that time—I do not know that there is any one here who knows any-thing of the concerns of the office at that time—I believe Mr. Roy has been solicitor to the Company from its commencement to the present time, and is so now—what I have seen the prisoner write was preparing the interest payable to the shareholders on 30th June last—that was being prepared at the time I first went on my duties there—I saw him doing it as I passed through the office—of course I was not looking over him; I merely stood by the desk, and had a little conversation with him—I asked how he was making it up—he told me—I can distinctly say that that occurred once—I cannot say the particular name that I saw him write—I have examined the cash-book well—I judge that to be in handwriting from the character of his writing—nothing was pointed out to me as his writing—I know the cash-book was in his writing, because the other persons in the office wrote differently to him—I only judge of it by comparison.

COURT. Q. Did you ever see him write, and see what he had written? A. Yes, I did on the occasion I have spoken to, at the latter end of June, when he was making out this interest calculation—I saw what he had written at that time—I cannot cull to mind any other time.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Do you mean to say that you formed your judgment on what you saw on that occasion? A. And from what I have seen him sign—I have seen his name signed in a letter-book

—I have not seen him sign it—I have formed my judgment of his writing from comparison—I have gathered that that which I have compared, was his writing from knowing that he used to make up the cash-book—I understood from Mr. Meyer that it was the prisoner's duty to make up the cash-book.

COURT. Q. Did you pay such attention at the rime you once saw him write, so as to form in your own mind a notion of his handwriting? A. Well, I did; it was a list of names that I then saw him write—it was under the letter "D," I think.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Have you not sworn to a signature being the a prisoner's writing about which you are now assured you are mistaken? A. It was a different character of writing to that appended to the warrants—I swore it was not the prisoner's—it did not turn out to be his—I have never heard it admitted that it was—I last saw Mr. Roy about a fortnight ago—he came to attend the board.

COURT. Q. I suppose the main reason for your belief as to the prisoner's writing is that this cash-book is his writing? A. I have every reason to believe it is—if I was quite certain that this cash-book was not in his writing I should not swear to his writing.

ROBERT HENRY KNIGHT . I am one of the clerks of Messrs. Roy and Co., Solicitors to the Whitehaven and Furness Junction Railway Company—I have known the prisoner about three years—I have repeatedly seen him write—this cash-book is in his writing—there is an entry on 17th Jan., 1848, of 4l. 5s. 4d., as paid to John Duncaft—that is in the prisoner's writing—on 12th Feb. there is an entry of 4l. 5s. 10d. to John Duncaft also in the prisoner's writing—on the 16th there is an entry of the payment of 4l. 5s. 10d. to George H. Wingate in the prisoner's writing—the filling up of the body of the warrant of 17th Jan. is the prisoner's writing; there is no doubt about it, and the whole of the receipt—the body of the warrant of 12th Feb. is in his writing—I believe the whole of the receipt to be his, and the signature, "George H. Wingate" also—the figures 4l. 5s. 10d. I believe to be his—they bear a resemblance to his usual character of figures—the "5" is the same—the body of the Warrant of 18th Feb. I believe to be his writing, and the receipt likewise, I have no doubt at all about it—the signature, "George H. Wingate, Glasgow," I believe to be his writing, and the figures "4, 5, 10"—I believe the whole to be his writing, except the signature of John Meyer.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. You do not hold any office in the Whitehaven and Furness Railway Company? A. No; I am clerk to Messrs. Roy, who are the Company's solicitors—Mr. William Roy attends to the business of the Company, he may be the solicitor—the firm act as solicitors to the Company, and the firm is Mr. Richard Roy and Mr. William Gascoigne Roy—I am clerk to the firm—I believe Mr. William Roy is considered to be the solicitor to the Company—Mr. Richard Roy never attends any of the meetings—I cannot say where Mr. William Roy is now—he is at home ill, perhaps; I understand so—I last saw him yesterday evening, at the office—he came very late in the evening, and stayed there perhaps about an hour and a half, or two hours—he came, perhaps, between four and five, and left between six and seven—I did not speak to him—I understood he had met with an accident, fallen from a chaise or gig, and injured his head—I did not ask him how he was—I did not tell

him, nor did any one in my presence, that the solicitor for the prisoner had been there every day for the last week with a subpoena—I know the prisoner's solicitor called once, yesterday morning, about twelve—he called with a subpoena to produce a letter I believe—I did not read it; I was told so—that might have been communicated to Mr. William Roy—I do not know that the solicitor or his clerk had been there for five or six days previously with a subpoena—we have about seventeen clerks in the office—I am repeatedly at the office of the Whitehaven Company about actions against shareholders—there is a good deal of that work, to make them pay up; it is rather difficult with some—that is what I have generally been there about—I have been there on other business, to see Mr. Meyer the Secretary, and Mr. William Roy on various matters—I have then seen the prisoner there—I often saw him write—I saw him write repeatedly in the books, and write letters and documents, and write out an extract from a book for the purpose of obtaining information relative to the shareholders—Mr William Roy lives in Westbourne-terrace—there was a trial in Edinburgh some time ago—I had no quarrel with the prisoner on that occasion that I know of—I do not know what passed between Mr. William Roy and the prisoner—I do not know that there was an exact quarrel between them—I merely know that one or two words might have passed—I do not know that any words did pass; I did not hear any—it was necessary for the purposes of that trial that the minute-book should be taken to Edinburgh—I heard Mr. Roy direct the prisoner to take the book to the residence of Mr. Meyer the secretary—there was some memorandum or some writing to be put into the minute-book—Meyer was ill at home I believe, and it was taken to him to do it—I presume it was necessary that the minute should be in the secretary's handwriting, or it would not have been sent—the minutes of a day's proceedings are signed by the chairman at a subsequent meeting, or sometimes perhaps signed at the time, I do not know—Lord Lonsdale is the chairman—I believe the writing was put in—I do not recollect looking at it afterwards—Mr. Roy was not present when it was put in, nor was I—the prisoner received instructions to take the book to the secretary's house and he did—what he did there I do not know—the instructions were given by Mr. Roy—I believe he told him what was to be done—I was in the room.

Q. Did he tell him that there was to be an insertion or a minute between the signature of Lord Lonsdale and the last minute? A. That I cannot positively state—I forget now whether the minute was signed, I believe it was—there had been a resolution come to at a subsequent meeting that some words should be inserted there—orders were given to insert those words under that date—it had some reference to a resolution relating to a third call—the book was given to the prisoner, to take to Meyer, to have certain words inserted in a certain page; the prisoner took it to Meyer, and brought it back with the words inserted, and left it at my house—I took that book to Edinburgh—I believe the entry would stand as a resolution passed on that day—I do not know that it was used at Edinburgh as a genuine entry on that day—the book was put in process, as it is called—whether it was produced, I do not know—there was a witness, who I unfortunately took with me to Scotland—that was in December, 1849—two or three days before the man went, the prisoner said Wharton was very ill, but he did not remonstrate with me about it—

it was not his province to do so—I was aware the man was very ill—I have no recollection of the prisoner saying to Mr. Roy that it would be attended with danger to his life if I took him—he mentioned casually to me that the man was very ill, and he thought it was a long journey for him—he died the day after he arrived at Edinburgh, before he could be examined—I never heard the prisoner tell Mr. Roy that he would charge him with having killed him, or anything of the kind—I know nothing of any directions given by Mr. Roy with reference to the income-tax—I do not know whether the income-tax is deducted in the interest warrants—I have not heard any conversation between the prisoner and Mr. Roy on the subject of the income-tax—I do not know that the prisoner charged Mr. Roy with having made false entries in the books, and appropriated considerable sums of money to own purposes—I'never heard that he made such a charge formally to Lord Lonsdale—I have never heard that from Mr. Roy, or anything of the kind—the prisoner told me that he had written a letter to Lord Lonsdale—what the exact statement was, I cannot say—it was not about the appropriation of moneys or the falsification of books; it was complaining of his being discharged—there was something said about the reasons for that, but not about falsification—there was something about the income-tax—the prisoner left I think in July, which was about three months after writing the letter—I did not see the letter—the prisoner produced a copy to me, and said he had written it to Lord Lonsdale—I do not know that an inquiry was instituted into Mr. Roy's conduct—when the prisoner was told by Mr. Roy to take the book to the secretary, I have no recollection of his saying, "O, then that is the reason why there is always a blank between the name of the chairman and the last minute"—I believe he was perfectly aware of the reason for its being put in, and everything about it, as well as Mr. Roy—he made no remark to that effect, to my knowledge—he might, I do not recollect it—I did not hear him demur to going with the book—he took it.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Can you tell us what the entry was? A. It was in reference to a third call that had been made on the shareholders, and left in the state it was—I believe it would appear as if there would not have been sufficient notice given of this call by one day, which might have rendered the recovery of it rather doubtful—it was some trivial thing of that sort—I believe the book is here—I believe there was a resolution of the board about it—I do not know when that resolution was made—it is all recorded in the book I believe, but I am not conversant with the book—it was not my province to know anything about it—it belonged to the secretary—the blank was left by the chairman for it to be put in I suppose, or he would have signed it close up.

ALLAN CUNNINGHAM . I am a clerk to Messrs. Roy. I have known the prisoner nearly three years—I have had opportunities of seeing him write perhaps a dozen times—I find an entry in the cash-book in the name of Duncaft, on 17th Jan., 1848, as having received the sum of 4l. 5s. 4d.—that is in the prisoner's handwriting—this entry, on 12th Feb., of 4l. 5s. 10d., in the name of Duncaft, is in the prisoner's writing; and this on 16th Feb., for 4l. 5s. 10d., in the name of George H. Wingate—this warrant of 17th Jan. is in his writing—I do not know the handwriting to the body of the receipt—the body of this warrant, of 12th

Feb., is the prisoner's writing, and the receipt I believe to be his writing—the signature, George H. Wingate, I also believe to be his, but in a very disguised hand—the body of the warrant of 18th Feb. is in the prisoner's writing, and the receipt also; the signature as well—I think this does not appear so disguised.

Cross-examined. Q. Then I may take it that neither of these signatures are, in your opinion, like his usual handwriting? A. There is a similarity—I consider it his handwriting disguised—they are not exactly like his handwriting—if this handwriting is not disguised I should not say it was his—one of the signatures I think is very similar to his—I say they are disguised from their being a shaky hand—I consider the signature to the second receipt bears a greater similarity to his ordinary hand—I speak of their being disguised from examining them—I examined them first when the case was first brought before the Magistrate—I was not examined; I do not know why—this is the first time I have been examined in the presence of the prisoner—I was not told it was no use calling me, as I could not speak certainly; nothing of the kind—these warrants came to me in the way of business, they were taken from among the papers in preparing the case against the prisoner—I am one of the common law clerks—I have drawn briefs in this case, and have written out my own proof—I have expressed my opinion from the first that this was the prisoner's writing—I first expressed that opinion to Mr. Wells, the chief common-law clerk—I have not spoken to Mr. Roy about it(looking again at the warrant of 12th Feb.)—I still believe this to be the prisoner's handwriting, but disguised—I think I can trace a great similarity between this and his ordinary writing—I have not been comparing it, except from what I recollect of his writing—I have not compared it with the cash-book—I have seen many letters from him, I have compared it with them—I have arrived at a conclusion from that comparison, and from the idea I have formed of his letters.

MR. WILLIAM ROY . I am solicitor to the Whitehaven and Furness Railway Company—last Monday I met with an accident.

FREDERICK WELLS . I am clerk to Messrs. Roy. I have known the prisoner between three and four years—I have had an opportunity of seeing him write several times—this cash-book is all in the same handwriting—I believe this entry on 17th Jan., of Duncaft, 4l. 5s. 4d., to be the prisoner's writing; also this entry of John Duncaft, 4l. 5s. 10d., on 12th Feb.; and this on 16th, 4l. 5s. 10d., George H. Wingate—I believe the filling-up of this warrant of 17th Jan. to be the prisoner's writing; also the filling-up of this warrant of 12th Feb.—the receipt part I also believe to be in his writing—I think the warrant of 18th Feb. is his writing—the whole of it, except the signature of John Meyer, the secretary—that I believe to be Meyer's writing in all the warrants.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you mean to express your belief at all confidently about these signatures? I have formed a strong opinion in my own mind as to the signatures—I have been in Court during the whole of this inquiry—I know that the witnesses were directed to be out of Court, but I was assisting Mr. Clarkson—I have no personal feeling in the matter—I was not called at the Mansion-house—my evidence is in the brief—I have attended to the case for the prosecution for the last few days, during Mr. Roy's illness—I have given no notice to the prisoner or his

attorney that I or Cunningham would be called—I have a very strong opinion that these are in the prisoner's writing—I think if he had drawn a check on me I should pay it on that signature, if my attention had been called to the character of the handwriting—what I should have done I do not know, but I think if I had been asked, under any circumstances, whether it was Harcourt's handwriting, I should have formed an opinion that it was, from my knowledge of his handwriting—I have been comparing it—I have seen it many times, and examined it very carefully—I think it is not exactly like his usual style, as in the head of the warrant and the cash-book, when he writes in a more stiff formal way, but I think there is a similarity in the letters; I think it is disguised in this respect, that it is written smaller, and rather more slovenly than his usual style—I feel satisfied that I can trace a similarity in the letters of these signatures and the word "Glasgow" to his handwriting on ordinary occasions—I have got some of his writing in my pocket now—I have compared it with that among other—I have been comparing it with a good deal of his handwriting.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Independent of any comparison you may have made, do you speak from your knowledge of his writing? A. Yes; I formed my opinion before I compared it.

JOHN FORRESTER (policeman). I took the prisoner into custody on 5th Oct.—I have in my possession a warrant against Meyer—I have searched after him, but have not been able to find him.

Cross-examined. Q. When had you the warrant given you? A. On 5th Oct.—Mr. Roy employed me to look after him—I had no instruction to apprehend him until after I had taken the prisoner—I do not know that he is gone—I cannot find him, that is all I know—I apprehended the prisoner in the Union-road, Clapham-road, where he lives—I searched him, and found upon him 13s. or 14s.—I did not search his house—I had no difficulty in finding him—I told him what I took him for—he said he would go with me—he came directly, and we went to the Mansion-house to have it investigated—after two or three investigations he was admitted to bail—he surrendered at the end of a week, and was then committed—he was afterwards admitted to bail, and has surrendered to-day to take his trial.

JOHN SAUNDERS . I am a cashier, in the London Joint-Stock Bank—there was a clerk named William Thackeray in the bank on 17th Jan., 1848, who is since dead—I am acquainted with the character of his handwriting—I believe that this receipt of Mr. Duncaft has been cancelled by Mr. Thackeray—I paid the money for the warrant of 12th Feb. on this receipt—I do not know to whom.

(MR. CLARKSON put in the Act incorporating the Company.)

MR. BALLANTINE called the following witnesses for the Defence.

GEORGE BROOKS . I am an auctioneer, surveyor, and valuer, at 31, Nicholas-lane, Lombard-street. I have known the prisoner thirteen years—he was under me three years, in the employment of Messrs. Hill and Brooks—Mr. Brooks is my brother—they are merchants and agents to the Peninsula Navigation Company—I have had opportunities of seeing him write, and becoming acquainted with his handwriting—I am familiar with it—I do not believe the signature, "George H. Wingate, Glasgow," at the

bottom of this receipt of 12th Feb. to be his writing, nor the writing at the bottom of the receipt of 18th Feb.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Look at the entry in the cash-book of 17th Jan., 1848, of the payment of 4l. 5s. 4d. to Mr. Duncaft; whose writing do you think that is? A. Well, I should say that is the prisoner's—I think all these entries are in his writing—I see the figure 5 there—I do not see the slightest similarity between it and the figures 5 in these papers—the top of the 5 in the entry of 17th Jan. is separated from the other part of the figure—that is also the case with the 5s. in the warrants, but not at all in the same way; it is quite different in the style of separation—the 5 at the top of the warrant is very different from the 5 in the receipt—they both have the separation, but not at all alike—I have frequently had correspondence with the prisoner—I have not seen him write for the last ten years—I received a letter from him about six months back, I think—I was his bail—I did not see these papers before the Magistrate—I attended at the Court to wait to be his bail—I see no similarity whatever in either of these receipts to his writing—the body of both the warrants of 12th and 18th Feb. are in his writing—all the 5's seem to be separated—in Duncaft's it seems to have been altered, as if it had been joined on—the body of the receipt of 12th Feb. I should say is not the prisoner's writing—I am doubtful about the receipt of 18th Feb.; I should not like to say one way or the other; if anything, I should say it was in his handwriting; that is as far as my belief goes—it is such an extraordinary hand that I can hardly tell whether it is a disguised hand or not—the man must write very badly who wrote it—I should say the signatures to the receipts of 12th and 18th are in a different handwriting—I call them both badly written, but this of 18th Feb. I can hardly make out, as "Wingate;" it looks like "Mingate"—the other is a perfect "Wingate"—there is not the slightest similarity between the entries in the cash-book and these signatures.

MR. HUDDLESTON. Q. Did you attend at Mr. Roy's office to see these papers? A. I did; I gave my name and address—the prisoner has borne a very honourable character.

JOSEPH NAYLOR . I am clerk to Mr. Short, of the Stock Exchange. I have known the prisoner about seven years—I have seen his handwriting—I have been to Mr. Roy's office two or three times, to see these papers, and to satisfy myself—I do not believe the signature "Geo. H. Wingate, Glasgow," to this warrant of 12th Feb., to be the prisoner's writing—(looking at the warrant of 18th Feb.)these are two different handwritings, there is no doubt—I do not believe the signature to this to be the prisoner's writing.

Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. What opportunity have you had of seeing him write? A. Well, I cannot tell you, I am sure; I have seen him write, and I have had two or three letters from him, or a dozen, I cannot tell—I cannot tell how many letters of his I have had in my possession—I have seen forty letters of his, not directed to myself, mind you—I have seen them within the last few weeks.

Q. What, since this inquiry has been going on? A. We will waive that question; we will put that one side—I have seen his writing many times before he was taken on this charge—I cannot give you a date—I have known this man seven years, and have had letters from him—of

course I have not kept them—if yon see a man's writing two or three times you fancy you know it; only I ask you not to be cross with me—I cannot tell how long before he was taken I had seen any of his writing; I should say within six months; I dare say I have within three—I do not think I have bad a letter from him within three months; yes, I think I have, now I come to recollect—I was on particularly intimate terms with him—I live at 26, Union-road—the prisoner lodges with me, and has done so two years, or two years and a half—he does not write letters from the up-stairs room to the down-stairs room—that is putting me in a very low position; it is as much as to say he—my wife.

CHARLES SAMPSON . I am on the Stock Exchange, with my uncle. I have known the prisoner fourteen or fifteen years—he has always borne a most excellent character—I was at school with him—I have known his handwriting—he was very intimate with my family—I have seen these documents at Mr. Roy's office, and examined them very closely—I do not believe the signatures to either of these receipts to be the prisoner's handwriting.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. In what respect does it differ from his handwriting? A. He writes a very stiff bold hand—the upper part of the warrants look more like his writing—I do not think one looks so much like as the other, but this of the 12th Feb. I should say distinctly is—it looks like it—it is his style of handwriting, decidedly; the top part is, but the bottom is certainly not, to the best of my knowledge—the top part of the warrant of 18th Feb. is like his writing—I could not exactly swear it, hut I should say it looks decidedly his style of writing—to the best of my belief, the bottom part is not the signature—I do not see that the filling-up of the receipt resembles his—it is a little stiffer than the other—it is decidedly not his style of writing, but the signature I should say decidedly was not his writing—I speak with confidence to the filling up of the receipt not being his—I do not speak so confidently to that as to the signature, because there is a little more firmness in the handwriting; that is the only difference—the signature is clearly not his writing; I say that from knowing his writing, by corresponding with him, and so on—I had had a letter from him perhaps about twelve months before this—I used to go now and then to see him at the Whitehaven and Furness Railway Company's, while he was clerk there, and I have frequently stood over him while he was writing—I cannot say whether the writing to these receipts appears feigned or not; that is rather difficult to say—I have been to see the prisoner while he lodged at Naylor's—I did not come here with Naylor to-day—I do not think the capital "H" in this signature to the receipt is like his writing—it is unlike it; it is not his style; his "H" is a stiffer one—I do not see any similarity between that "H" and his—this cash-book I should say decidedly is his writing, and you see there is the difference of the stiffness and style of writing—this entry of Duncaft's on 17th Jan. looks like his; it is the same style of writing—I think the entry of 12th Feb. is like his—I do not see any peculiarity in the figure 5 there—the figures 5 in the warrants I should say are not the same as that—I see several 5's in this page of the cash-book where the top part is not exactly touching—the figures 5 in the corner of the warrants are entirely different, one being so carefully written, and the other in so different a style.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. You remember enough of his writing to say at once that this cash-book is in his writing? A. Yes; I have not forgotten the character of his writing—I was at school with him for two or three years—I have kept up an intimate acquaintance with him since.

GEORGE SAMPSON . I am the brother of the last witness. I was at school with the prisoner—I have known him twelve or fourteen years—I believe I am familiar with his handwriting—I have frequently had correspondence with him—I went to Mr. Roy's office to see these two documents—I do not believe the signature to this warrant of 12th Feb. to be in the prisoner's writing, nor the signature to this of the 18th—as to his character, I always considered it, as regards honesty, spotless.

Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. What are you? A. I am a Foreign Exchange broker. I have frequently met him within the last twelve months, and I have seen writing of his within the last twelve months, something between six and twelve times—to the best of my belief, the body of the receipt of 18th Feb. is not in the prisoner's writing—I should say it is not at all like his writing—the 5 is not as he makes his 5—according to my knowledge of his writing, the signature "Geo. H. Wingate" is not his—he does not make his "H" in that way—I have not paid particular attention to the formation of his letters, but certainly this does not appear to me like his writing—the upper part is the prisoner's writing—the "H" in "Geo. H. Wingate" there is as he usually writes, but not the other—if he wrote a letter to me, it would be written in the style of the upper part—(looking at a paper handed to him by Mr. Parnell, folded down) to the best of my belief, this is not his writing—(opening it) I should still say it is not his, neither the filling up nor the signature—the body of the receipt of 12th Feb. is decidedly not his writing—it appears to be the same handwriting as the body of the warrant—I should say the receipts to both warrants appear to be in a feigned hand—there is a distinction between the handwriting on that of the 18th and that of the 12th—one appears to me not written in the same hand as the other—if there is any likeness at all to his, it is in that of the 18th, but I do not consider there is any at all.

(Other witnesses deposed to the prisoner's good character.)


NEW COURT.—Wednesday, Nov. 27th, 1850.


and Mr. Ald. SALOMONS.

Before Mr. Recorder, and the Fifth Jury.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-33
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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33. JOHN JACKSON, alias CONNER , stealing 1 purse, 1 ribbon, 3 half-crowns, and other moneys; the property of Caroline Letitia Smith, from her person; having been before convicted: to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 9.— Transported for Seven Years.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-34
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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34. RICHARD LEE , burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William London, and stealing 3 pairs of scales and other articles, value 3l.; his property.

MR. PAYNE conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM LONDON . I am a grocer, and live in Well-street, in the parish of St. John, Hackney. On 30th Oct. I had an outside flap-door, leading to my cellar from the street, open till half-past nine or ten o'clock at night—it had been open the whole day and evening—I went to bed about half-past ten; my shop and premises were all safe—there is a trap-door leading from my cellar to the shop; that was shut down, but there is no fastening to it—my canisters and different things were safe in their places in the shop when I went to bed—I came down about a quarter-past six in the morning, and found a canister near the flap in the shop, and eight other canisters in the room adjoining the shop which had all been emptied—I also missed about three pounds of tobacco from the jars in the shop—about half a dozen pounds of sugar, three pairs of scales, and a table-cloth—there is a back-door leading to an outhouse, and another door from the outhouse to the yard; those doors were both bolted when I went to bed, and I found them both unbolted in the morning—that would enable a person to get away from my premises—a person could not get into my premises by the trap-door leading from the street to the cellar, after it was shut, because it was bolted inside—a person could have got in while it was open and secreted himself in the cellar, which is very large, there might have been half a dozen persons concealed in it—a person secreted in the cellar could get into the shop through the trap-door—it was merely shut down—the prisoner was in my service about a year and a half ago, and was acquainted with my premises.

Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. Have you a wife? A. Yes; she did not attend 10 my business at that time, the was an invalid—I have always had a very high opinion of the prisoner—I have no doubt he has been made the dupe of another, and if I wanted a lad I would have no objection to take him again—I recollect fastening the doors on the night of 30th Oct.

WILLIAM RONAYNE (policeman, K 232). On the morning of 31st Oct. I saw the prisoner at seven o'clock, in Bethnal-green-road, more than a mile from Mr. London's, with this bundle under his arm—I asked what he had got; he said dirty linen he had brought from his mother's in Well-street, Hackney, and he was taking it to the washerwoman's—I felt it and said, "You have got something more than dirty linen"—he said, "Will you go with me to the washerwoman, she lives down one of these turnings," pointing to the left of where we stood—I went with him into Wilmot-street, and he then said, "I don't think this is the street"—I then told him I wanted to see what he had got in the bundle—I partly untied it, and found it was tea—I then took him to the station—he said, "I will tell you the truth, as I was coming across the park (Victoria-park) I met a person who asked me to carry it, and said he would give me half"—I then opened the bundle and found in it these three pain of scales, 7 1/4 lbs. of tea, the sugars, tablecloth, and tobacco.

MR. LONDON re-examined. These scales and tablecloth are mine—the tea and tobacco are similar to mine—the trap-door leading from the cellar to the shop was shut down when I went to bed.

(The prisoner received a good character).

GUILTY. Aged 18.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury and Prosecutor.

Confined Six Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-35
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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35. GEORGE SHEPHERD , stealing 1 mare, value 9l.; the property of John Cotton.

JOHN COTTON . I am a cab-proprietor; I have stables in Worship-street, and in Wheeler-street. The prisoner was my horse-keeper for about six months—he had to look after a mare pony in Wheeler-street—I missed him on 1st Nov.; the last time I saw him was about one o'clock that day, he was taking a sack of oats to feed the horses, from Worship-street to Wheeler-street—I saw him next morning in custody at the station in Spital-square—he ought to have come to Worship-street on Friday, and he did not—I went to Wheeler-street about three in the afternoon, and he was gone, and the mare also—we did not work it—I had seen it in the stable that morning—I saw it again on the Saturday afternoon in the possession of a person named Johns, in Drury-lane—it was worth from 8l. to 10l.

DAVID SCOTT . I am in the employ of Mr. Cotton. I have the management of some advertising vans which go about the street—I saw the pony on 1st Nov., in the stable in Wheeler-street, from eight to nine o'clock—I went to the stable again between six and seven in the evening, and it was gone—I saw the prisoner about nine, outside the stable-gate; I asked him if he had brought the pony home; he told me no, that it had thrown him off its back in the Mile-end-road, and had run away, he did not know where—I told him to wait while I fed the horses, and I would go with him and look for it in the Green-yard—I went in, and fed the horses, leaving him at the gate; when I came back, in about five minutes, he was gone.

THOMAS JOHNS . I live in Duke's-court, Drury-lane. I am a salesman, greengrocer, and fruiterer—the prisoner came to me on 1st Nov., with a person whom I had met at a betting-office, and asked me for the loan of 5l., which he said he would give me a document for—he said the pony was his, and he lived a great way off, at Stratford, or else he could have got the money without applying to me, and I should favour him very much by lending him the money—I lent him the money—the other man introduced him to me—this is the document—I saw the prisoner write it—(read—"This is to certify that Mr. Johns, of 10, Duke's-court, has lent George Shepherd the sum of 5l., on the possession of a pony, saddle, and bridle, if not fetched on 2nd Nov., 1850." Signed "George Shepherd, Thomas Johns")—he said if he did not fetch it on the Saturday, it was my property—he left the pony with me—I put it to a friend of mine, Mr. Ashford, a wheelwright, 57 1/2, Drury-lane—the next day Mr. Cotton came with the police-sergeant, and claimed the pony.

JOSEPH PRICE (police-sergeant, H 15). I received this document from Mr. Johns—it is in the same state as when I received it—I went with Mr. Cotton to Drury-lane on Saturday, 2nd Nov.—he claimed the pony, and I took possession of it.

THOMAS WHITAKER ( policeman, H 166). I was on duty in Wheeler-street on the morning of 2nd Nov.—I saw the prisoner in Anchor-street—I heard a noise, and heard the door of Mr. Cotton's stable slam—I looked, and saw the prisoner coming out of his premises, leading two horses; they had halters—I asked him what he was going to do with those horses—he said, "It is a curious question you are asking me; you know me very well; you are in the habit of calling me up every

morning"—I was not, and I never saw him before—I asked him again, and he said it was quite right, he was obeying his roaster's orders, that these horses had to go to work at five o'clock in the morning—I took him into custody—Mr. Cotton came, and saw him—he was afterwards charged with stealing the pony.

Prisoner's Defence. Mr. Cotton bought the pony at Barnet, and asked me if I could break it in; I said, "Yes;" I went out, and met with a man, and went and had some beer; we then had a game of skittles; then one of the men laid me 5l. that I could not knock the skittles down in less than nine times; I said I could, but I had not got 5l., and a man who was there said he would take me to a friend of his, who would lend me 5l.; he took me to Mr. Johns, and he lent me the 5l., and when I got back the man who held the money went away; Mr. Johns went back with me to the public-house, and drank with these betting men.

JOHN JOHNS , re-examined. No, I did not—he did not tell me what the 5l. was for—he was to come again next day at half-past twelve; that was the Saturday; he brought the pony on the Friday—I do not know the man who came with him—I had seen him two or three times at betting-places—I lend money to strangers on good security.

JOHN COTTON , re-examined. I always considered the prisoner a very honest man—I am not aware that he has been amongst betting men—he was not allowed to take my horse and keep it out all night—I never expected him to be out more than an hour—the pony never had been broken in, and he said he could break it in—I gave him liberty to do so—he has taken it out without my leave, and I thought nothing of it.

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Six Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-36
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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36. JOHN CLARK , stealing 2 gowns, 1 petticoat, and other articles; the goods of Margaret Green, from the person of Frederick Noakes.

MR. CAARTEEN conducted the Prosecution.

FREDERICK NOAKES . I live with my mother, at 11, Salisbury-crescent, Pitt-street, Old Kent-road—I am eleven years old—I was sent by Mrs. Green, at Mr. Campbell's, in Rood-lane, with a bundle of things to my mother's, to wash, on a Monday in October—I saw the prisoner on London-bridge—I had not known him before—he came up to me and asked if I would like to have a rabbit—I said 'Yes,'—he said he had got seven at home, and he was going to sell three for ninepence, and he would give me one—I walked with him—I had the bundle in my hand—he told me to leave the bundle in a shop he pointed out, while I went to get the rabbit—I did not know the shop before—it was a chandler's shop, and the person's name was Eliza Reynolds; I have seen her since—the prisoner was standing at the window outside, while I left the bundle—we then went on, and he told me to stay while he went and got the rabbit—he went down a court—he did not come back with the rabbit—I did not see him afterwards—I went to the chandler's shop for the bundle and it was not there.

ELIZA REYNOLDS . I am the wife of Charles Reynolds, Crucifix-lane, Bermondsey; my husband keeps a chandler's shop—Noakes called at my shop one day last month; he asked me whether he could leave a bundle—I said, "Yes"—he said, "You will not open it, will you?"—I said, "Lord bless the boy, no"—I saw the prisoner looking in at the window—

I think he could hear what Noakes said—the prisoner said, "Come along, come along," and hurried him out—the prisoner came back in about ten minutes—he spoke very slowly, and asked for the bundle—I did not understand him; I said, "What do you say?"—he said, "I want the bundle"—I thought it was a bundle of wood—he said, "No, the bundle"—I said, "You are not the boy that left it"—he said, "No, it was my brother"—I gave it to him and he went away with it—Noakes came afterwards, and I told him what had taken place, and I told a policeman who was passing.

MARGARET GREEN . I am in the service of Mr. Campbell, of Rood-lane—I gave Noakes a bundle on a Monday in last month, to take to his mother, who washed for me—there was in it two gowns, a petticoat, a shift, and an apron—they were mine—I have never seen them since.

Prisoner's Defence. I know nothing about them.


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-37
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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37. JOHN CLARK , was again indicted for stealing 2 shifts, 3 towels, and other articles; the goods of Sophia Bennett, from the person of Edward Bennett.

MR. CAARTEEN conducted the Prosecution.

SOPHIA BENNETT . I am the wife of Stephen Bennett, a carpenter, of Boar's Head-court, Fleet-street. On Tuesday, 1st Oct., I gave my little boy, Edward Bennett, a bundle, in a blue and brown handkerchief—it contained two shifts, two pairs of drawers, a tablecloth, three towels, and a nightcap—he was to take them to Miss Mortimer's, in Newcastle-street, Strand—they were her things—I had had them to wash.

EDWARD BENNETT . I am nine years old, and live with my mother, at 3, Boar's Head-court, Fleet-street. On Tuesday, 1st Oct., my mother gave me a bundle to carry to 2, Newcastle-street, Strand—I went away with it, and my little brother Henry, who is seven years old—I gave the bundle to my brother—as I was going along I met the prisoner by Chancery-lane—I had a top with me, and was playing with it—the prisoner spoke to me first and he said, "Will you let me have a go with your top?"—I did, and he gave it me back again, and he said to me, "Ask your brother if he would like a rabbit," and he asked me if my mother would let me keep it—I said, "I dare say she will"—he told my brother to stand by Little's, the butter-shop—my brother had the bundle at that time—he stood there, and I went up to Carey-street with the prisoner, to go to his house for the rabbit—when we were in Carey-street he said, "Stop here, I am going in a house to get the rabbit"—he came out and said, "I am going to my mother, and I can get you the rabbit better; stop here"—he left me and did not come back at all—I went to where I had left my brother—I did not find him there—I found him when he came home from school—I did not wait in Carey-street above five minutes—I have not seen the bundle since.

HENRY BENNETT . I am going on for seven years old—I live with my mother—I went out with my brother and the bundle—the prisoner came up to us, and he and my brother went away—I was left with the bundle by Mr. Little's, the butter-shop—the prisoner came up to me; he took me up Clement's-lane—he took the bundle from me, and said he would put the rabbit under the clothes—he told me to wait, and said he would

not keep me long—he went into a public-house—he did not come back to me—I have never seen the things since.

GUILTY . Aged 16.— Transported for Seven Years.

( There were eight other indictments against the prisoner, and it was stated by an officer that there were fifty or sixty similar cases against him.)

THIRD COURT.—Wednesday, Nov. 27th, 1850.


Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Seventh Jury.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-38
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty; Guilty > pleaded guilty

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EMMA PORTER pleaded— GUILTY . Aged 30.

WILLIAM PORTER pleaded— GUILTY . Aged 29.

Confined Two


(There was another indictment against Emma Porter.)

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-39
VerdictsGuilty > pleaded guilty

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39. THOMAS LEECH , stealing 1 show-frame, value 30s.; the goods of William Francis Jackson and another his masters: also 108 envelopes, 9s.; the goods of Ernest Bunsen: also 1 woollen wrapper, 7s.; the goods of Charles Raraty: to all of which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Four Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-40
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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40. FINES HANEGAN , stealing 1 purse, value 2s.; and 2 half-crowns; the property of Rachael Livesey, from her person: to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-41
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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41. JOHN BRADING , and JOSEPH BARCLAY , stealing 1 tame rabbit, value 4s.; the property of George Throsby; Brading having been before convicted.

GEORGE THROSBY . I am a poulterer in Tabernacle-square, Old-street-road. On Wednesday, 23rd Oct., between six and seven o'clock, I heard a noise outside my shop—I went out, and missed a rabbit from a hutch which was in the window—I had seen it safe a quarter of an hour before—a minute or two afterwards, I saw Barclay—I followed, and overtook him with the rabbit in his arms—I said, "You have stolen my rabbit"—he said, "No, I have not; I had it given me by a boy"—I said probably he would go back and show me the boy—we went back, but he did not show me any one—I did not see Brading.

SARAH COLLIER . I am nearly eleven years old. I was passing the shop, and saw Brading take the rabbit out of the hutch—he gave it to Barclay, who went away with it, and I told Mr. Throsby.

HENRY WILLIAM DUBOIS (policeman, N 14). Barclay was given into my custody—I know both prisoners, and have seen them together—I produce a certificate—( read—Clerkenwell, July 1848, Joseph Platt, convicted of stealing tame pigeons, and confined three months)—I was present at that trial—Brading is the person who was convicted—I know him well; his right name is Platt.


BARCLAY— GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined One Month.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-42
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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42. JOHN BRADING was again indicted for stealing 2 gowns, 1 tablecloth, 1 shift, and other articles, value 18s. 6d.; the goods of Emily Peake; having been before convicted.

EMILY PEAKE . I am single, and live at Sussex-place, Islington. These towels, tablecloth, dresses, and other things are mine—on Tuesday evening, 29th Oct., they had been washed, and I assisted to hang them out to dry in the garden, and missed them next morning—a policeman afterwards called at my house.

SAMUEL CRISP (policeman, N 226). On 30th Oct., I was on duty on Kingsland-bridge, and saw the prisoner walking by the side of the canal, coming towards the bridge with a bundle—I called to him; he made some reply, and walked on—I went to the other side to meet him, and then saw the bundle in the canal—I stopped him—the things produced were in the bundle. (Henry William Dubois produced the certificate, as in the last case.)

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Seven Years.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-43
VerdictsGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown
SentencesTransportation; Transportation

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43. MARY BOWLING, ELLEN MAHONY, JOHN MARTIN , and JAMES BOWLING, alias WIGGINS , stealing 6 spoons, 2 gowns, and a variety of articles, value 15l. 2s. 7d.; the goods of James Owen Tomkins, the master of Mary Bowling; she having been before convicted: and James Bowling was also charged as an accessory after the fact. Other COUNTS charged Mahony, Martin, and James Bowling with receiving, &c.

MESSRS. RYLAND and LOCKE conducted the Prosecution.

MARGARET KURCALDY . My husband lives at Wapping. On 21st Sept., I parted with my servant, whose name was Katura Dunn—she went in our house by the name of Kate—I then engaged the prisoner, Mary Bowling, by the day, until a servant I expected to come arrived, and she remained with me three days—after she left, Miss Tomkins called on me for the character of a servant, and I gave her the character of Kate—it was a good character—Kate lived with me sixteen months.

Mary Bowling. Q. Did you lose anything while I was with you? A. No.

ELLEN TOMKINS . I am sister to James Owen Tomkins, the prosecutor, who lives at 97, Leadenhall-street. In the early part of Oct., I was staying there with him—he was in want of a servant, and on a Friday in the early part of Oct., the prisoner, Mary Bowling, called about the situation—she said she had lived at Mrs. Kurcaldy's, at Wapping—I asked how long she had been there—she said, "Fourteen Months"—I asked why she left—she said the place was too hard for her, there were four sons—I asked her whether I should be able to see Mrs. Kurcaldy—she said, "Yes, on the Friday or Monday"—I called on Mrs. Kurcaldy the same afternoon for the purpose of getting her character, and got a satisfactory one of the prisoner as I supposed, and she was taken into the service—she came on the following Thursday, between four and five o'clock, and I left the same evening.

Mary Bowling. I told her 1 was only three days at Mrs. Kurcaldy's. Witness. No.

JAMES OWEN TOMKINS . I am clerk to Mr. Lee, of 97, Leadenhall-street, and rent the second and third story of that house. On 10th Oct. I took the prisoner Mary Bowling into my service—I understood from my sister that her name was Kate, because when my sister returned from getting her character she said it was a very curious name, Katura, or some-thing

of that sort, but I called her Ann because I preferred that name—she came into my service on the Thursday and left the following Wednesday—she was to have 6l. a year—I was to pay her half-a-crown weekly—I received an anonymous letter the same afternoon she left, in consequence of which I went up-stairs and examined a box in my bedroom, found it broken open, and missed some trinkets and stage ornaments which I had seen safe on the previous Saturday—I then went into the prisoner's room and examined a box of mine there which I had left locked—I found a piece broken out of the bottom from the corner to the centre—it was safe when she came into my service—from that I missed some sword belts, a cartridge-box, three gowns, a petticoat, some gown tops, bed sacking, carpet, a teapot, a flat iron, some dresses, boots, a brush, a pair of socks, a remnant of silk, a remnant of bunting, twelve yards of sheeting, a knife and fork, three remnants of calico, a nightgown, two aprons, a remnant of muslin, two necklaces, fifteen bracelets, a comb, two buttons, a pair of earrings, a ring, two buckles, a star, three silver table-spoons, two tea-spoons, a pair of sugartongs two tablecloths, seven yards of huckaback, a window-blind, two towels, and a shawl—I missed six silver tea-spoons from the kitchen, one of which had I. T. A. on it—it was an old spoon—I have seen a shawl and two gowns at a pawnbroker's, which are my property—I am quite sure this brooch (produced) is mine—when I found the property was gone, I told a fellow clerk of it, and shortly after I found the prisoner had absconded—I gave information to the police, and went on 19th, Saturday, with Jarvis and Finnis to 3, Compass-court, Ratcliffe, and saw the prisoner Wiggins and some Irish people there—we examined the house, and on turning out a tin baking-dish I found these four ornaments of a sword-belt, which are mine—Martin told me that the house was his—I believe Wiggins does not live there, but he was asleep there then—I went again, and found Martin Mahony, Wiggins, and a girl named Ann Nash—I had not spoken to Mary Bowling before she left about the box being broken, but she saw me inspecting it—I did not threaten to send for a policeman, or anything of the kind—I never gave her permission to introduce any one else into the house—I have seen a key produced by Jarvis which fits three of my drawers—Bowling did not give me any notice before she left—she did not ask for her half-crown—I did not see her again till she was in custody.

Mary Bowling. Q. Did you not give me the cotton gown? A. No; I did not come into your room and take liberties with you—I was very ill with the jaundice.

Cross-examined by MR. COOPER. Q. The spoons were odd ones? A. Yes; I saw the principal of them the morning before she left—the plain spoons are very common ones—they are what are given to children and have their initials on them.

MR. LOCKE. Q. Are they yours? A. Yes; the house is in the parish of St. Catherine Cree—the property I have lost is worth 22l.—I never gave the prisoner Mary any gowns.

JOHN JOSEPH LOWTON . I am fifteen years old. In Oct. I was living with Mr. Lee, who occupies part of the same house as Mr. Tomkins—I knew Mary Bowling there as servant, but not by the name of Kate—I remember on 16th Oct., the day she left, seeing her about half-past seven in the morning going out with a bundle—she saw me observing her, and

said she was going to take her washing—she came back about half-past eight without any bundle—Mahony was with her, and Bowling said she had brought her to help her clean the kitchen, as the other servant had left it in such a mess—they went into the house together, and went up-stairs—the kitchen is on the first-floor—about nine o'clock I saw them both in the kitchen—that was the last I saw of them.

JOHN ROBERT COOPER . I am a canvas waterproofer, at Mr. Lee's. On 16th Oct., about half-past nine o'clock, I went there, and went up-stairs, into the back-room third-floor—as I went up, I saw Mary Bowling in the kitchen—I did not go into the room—I afterwards went into the kitchen to warm some size, and saw Mahony there—Mr. Tomkins was up-stairs in the drawing-room, I think on the sofa—he was unwell—towards the evening Mary Bowling came to the room where I was working, and asked me where Mr. Tomkins was—I told her I thought he was in the bedroom—she told me Mr. Tomkins had been making a bother about a box which she had broken, in standing on it to get at the window to clean it, and talked about sending for a policeman—she went down-stairs, and I did not see her again, or Mahony—shortly after that Mr. Tomkins spoke to me, and I went with him to the bedroom, and saw a box, in the top of which there was a piece of about fourteen inches broken out—there was room for a person's hand to go in, and take anything out—I afterwards examined a box in the prisoner's bedroom, in the bottom of which there was a hole large enough to get anything through—I then went down to the kitchen, and found both the prisoners gone.

Mary Bowling. Q. Did you not take some beer with me? A. Yes; you were talking to the other woman about Mr. Tomkins being such an indecent fellow, you could not stop.

MARIA GREEN . I am the wife of George James Green, and live at 23, Blackwall-harbour, Blackwall. I know Mary Bowling by her coming to our house after her brother James Bowling—I have seen Martin, but do not know him—on 16th Oct., in the evening, Mary and James Bowling came to our house to say James would not come to work in the morning—he has been in the habit of working for my husband—they were in liquor—they went away, returned almost directly, and Mary gave me a brooch, a thimble, and a sovereign, to take care of for her—her brother was there, but I cannot say whether he saw her—I afterwards delivered the brooch and thimble to Finnis—these are them—( produced)—on the following Saturday Mary and her brother called on me, about ten o'clock in the morning—Mary said she came for the sovereign, she had been locked up, had been fined 1l., and had pawned some things, and wanted the sovereign to get them out again—I offered her the other things; she said she did not want to have them—she left them, and took the sovereign—the prisoner James did not come to work the next day.

Cross-examined. Q. Did he lodge with you? A. Yes, eighteen months—he is a hardworking man—he works for my husband, who is foreman of a barge—he has always been honest—he earns from 1l. to 27s. a week.

MARY RYAN . I am the wife of John Ryan, of 6, Driver's-buildings, Mile-end-road. I am a cousin of the prisoner Martin—on Saturday, 19th Oct., about half-past twelve o'clock, I was at a stall about ten yards from

where I live, when Martin came to me with this large box ( produced)—he said he had been out hopping, and the rent raised while he was away, and he was obliged to take the things out of the house that the landlord might not take them; and would I let him leave the box at my place till the Monday—I said I had no room for it, as my room was let—he said, "Oh, leave it till Monday; it won't hurt;" and he went and laid it under the sideboard—I went in with him, and came out again with him—he then went across the road, where he had a truck, which I had not seen before; and Mahony, who I believe is his wife, was at the truck—he took this large box from it (produced;) they came over to me with it—I went with them, and they laid it down under the window—about five o'clock in the afternoon Mahony came again, and brought the sacking-part of a bed, and said to a young woman, "Take it, and put it on the box, and wait till I come and take it away on Monday"—the young woman put it on the box—we afterwards had some gin—I have known Martin ten years—I never saw Mahony before—Martin said she was his wife—Martin has reared Mary Bowling from a child; and when she is out of place, the goes to his house—her mother is dead—the prisoner Jim Bowling is her brother; I have known him ever since he has been in London, ten years—Martin and Mahony did not come for the boxes—I did not see them again till they were in custody—on the following Wednesday I went to the officer Jarvis, and he took away the boxes and the bedding in the same state as when they came to my house—Jane Ryan is the person who assisted to bring the boxes in; her husband and mine are brothers.

Martin. Q. Did you not tell me I might bring boxes to your house, provided there were locks and keys to them? A. No; I do not know that you and Mary Bowling have been at variance lately.

JANE RYAN . I am sister-in-law of Mary Ryan, and live in the same house as her. On 19th Oct. I recollect Martin bringing a large round box, and putting it under the sideboard—Mary Ryan, who was at her stall at the top of the street, followed him in—Martin then brought a second box, Mahony was with him; he laid it under the window—about five o'clock Mahony came again with the bed-sacking; she asked me to put it with the boxes, and she told us she was married to Martin, and the things should be fetched away on the Monday, when they took a room—they were afterwards given to Jarvis—I never saw Mahony before that day.

HENRY FINNIS (City-policeman,633). In consequence of information, on 19th Oct., about five o'clock, I went with Jarvis to the King's Arms, Brook-street, Ratcliffe—I found Mary and James Bowling and a sailor there—I told Mary I wanted her for robbing Mr. Tomkins, of Leadenhall-street —she said she knew nothing about Tomkins, I must bring him to her, she would not go—we then took her into custody by force, (she made great resistance,) and took her to the station, where I saw Jarvis find 12s. 4d., and this bunch of keys(produced)on her, one of which fits a chest of drawers in Mr. Tomkins' bedroom—I went in the evening with Mr. Tomkins to No. 3, Compass-court, the prisoners were not there then—we went again on the Sunday-morning, at half-past one, and I took the three other prisoners into custody, and also Ann Mahony, who has been discharged—I asked them if they knew anything of a box belonging to Mary Bowling—they said, "No"—I then searched the house, and found these ornaments and trinkets (produced) on the top of a hamper on the ground-floor

—I afterwards went to Mrs. Green's, 23, Black wall-harbour, and received the brooch and case, which Mr. Tomkins identified, and a thimble.

WILLIAM JARVIS (City-policeman,614). I went on 19th, with Finnis, to the King's Arms, and found Mary Bowling, Wiggins, and a sailor there—I told Mary I was a policeman, and should take her into custody for robbing her master, Mr. Tomkins, of Leadenhall-street—she said, "I shall not go, I am not the person, and you may fetch Mr. Tomkins to see me before I will go"—we took her into custody by force, and took her to Bishopsgate station; she resisted very much—I found 12s. 4d., and a bunch of keys on her; one of the keys I applied to the square box, and it opened it, and another one opened the drawers in Mr. Tomkins' bed-room—we afterwards went to No. 3, Compass-court, and found Wiggins there in liquor—we did not do anything on that occasion, but went again next morning, and found Martin, Mahony, Wiggins, and another person, who has been discharged—Finnis asked them whether they knew anything of a box belonging to Mary Bowling—they said they did not—I saw the ornaments found by Finnis, which Mr. Tomkins claims—some days after that I went to Mrs. Ryan's, 6, Driver's-buildings, Mile-end-road, and found the two boxes and bed-sacking; they were opened in Mr. Tomkins' presence, and he claimed several of the things.

WILLIAM BALL , (policeman, K 377). Three or four days before the prisoners were taken into custody, I was with Huntley, in Brook-street, Ratcliffe, and saw Mary Bowling with the wheel of a truck, and her brother with a washing-tub—I took Mary into custody, and Huntley took James—I walked on the footpath with the man, and Huntley and the woman in the road to King David-lane station—as I was going with the man I saw him put his hand in his pocket, and heard something drop, which sounded like silver—I marked the place; it was opposite Love-lane —we went on, and about 500 yards further I heard something else drop—we then went to the station, and I charged them with having the wheel and tub without giving a proper account of it—I got a light, went back to the place opposite Love-lane, and found a spoon with ✗"T. A. I." on it—the prisoners were taken to the police-court next day, remanded to the next day, and then discharged—Mr. Ingham said there was no proof they were not their own property—I gave the spoon back to the man, and he gave it to Mary Bowling—she directly said, "There were two spoons"—he said there was only one.

Cross-examined by MR. COOPER. Q. Have you been in Court? A. Yes—the spoon was marked T. I. A.—there was no evidence given before Mr. Ingham about the spoon—he ordered it to be given up—the female was five or six yards off when I heard the fall.

JOHN HUNTLEY (policeman, K 428). I was with Ball—I have heard what he has stated; it is correct—I got a glimpse of the spoon, but did not have it in my possession.

NATHAN JOSEPH COHEN . I am occasionally in the employment of Aaron Cohen, of Back-road, St. George's. I was so on 15th Oct., and between four and five o'clock in the afternoon, a person who gave the name of Ann Bowling offered two gowns and a chemise in pledge—I lent her 3s. on them—I should say Mary Bowling is the person; I identified her in Newgate last Wednesday, among five or six other females—she gave her direction "Ann Bowling, Brook-street."

Mary Bowling's Defence. My sister died nine weeks ago, and many of these things belonged to her; Mr. Tomkins gave me the cotton and the dark gown.

Mahoney's Defence. I went with Mary Bowling to clean the kitchen; I know nothing of the robbery.

(Martin, in a written defence, stated that Mary Bowling was his daughter, that she came to his house, being out of place, and left the boxes, which he consented to, knowing that one of them belonged to her late sister, and that his landlord threatening him for arrears of rent, he removed the boxes.)

WILLIAM POPLE (policeman, K 288). I produce a certificate from Clerkenwell of Mary Bowling's conviction—( read—Convicted Dec. 1849, and confined three months)—I had her in custody, and was present at the trial—she is the person.

MARY BOWLING— GUILTY . Aged 30.— Transported for Seven Years.

MAHONY—Aged 20.

MARTIN—Aged 43.

GUILTY of receiving.Transported

for Seven Years.


(There was another indictment against Mary Bowling, Mahony, and Martin.)

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-44
VerdictsGuilty > pleaded guilty; Not Guilty > unknown

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44. HENRY WILLIAMS , stealing 360 yards of muslin, value 137l.; the goods of John Scouller Fiskin: and WILLIAM WARNER , AMELIA FURZMAN , and MARY RYAN receiving the same, &c.; Williams having been before convicted: to which

WILLIAMS pleaded GUILTY .†Aged 20.— Confined Twelve Months.

MR. RIBTON conducted the Prosecution.

HENRY BARTLETT . I am errand-boy to Mr. Fiskin, of 4, Wood-street, Cheapside, lace-merchant. On the night of 19th Oct., I went to Pearce, Allan's, and Stone's, Waterloo-house, with a parcel of lace—the house was shut up, and as I returned I met Williams, who said, "It is a nice evening"—I said, "Yes, it is"—he asked me to go of an errand for him—I said no, I had a parcel—he said well that would not matter, if I would go he would give me sixpence or a shilling—I did not know him before—I said I would go, to oblige him—we were then going up St. Martin's-lane, and he said he would wait at the Star and Garter—I went in with him there, and he said, "Go to that stationer's in St. Martin's-court, and ask for Mr. James, he owes me 5l. he is my brother; if you take the parcel, there may be a dispute"—I was going to leave it with the girl at the bar, and he said, "We need not trouble her," and I left the parcel with him—I returned shortly after—he was gone, and the lace also.

JAMES BROWN (policeman, F 142). On Saturday, 26th Oct., I met Furzman in Drury-lane, and told her I was about to take her into custody for being concerned in stealing some lace, which had been pledged at a pawnbroker's in Lambeth—she had a basket in her hand, and told me where she lived—I took her to the station, examined the basket, and found it contained 200 pieces of lace—I asked her where she got it from—she said from Mrs. Ryan, her landlady, No. 6, Queen's-place, Great Queen-street—I went there, saw Ryan, told her what Furzman said, and she said she gave the lace to Mrs. Furzman, to dispose of it in the best way she could—I searched Furzman's room, which Mrs. Ryan pointed out, and found a piece of lace, and sixty-nine duplicates, one of which relates to lace pledged at Mr. Dicker's, Lambeth-marsh, for 2l.—Furzman was not then

present—Ryan at first said she picked it up at the corner of the court, and while I was searching Furzman's room, she said, "I had better tell the truth about it, as I heard there was an advertisement in the paper, and I shall be obliged to tell the truth"—I said, "You can do as you like about it" —she then said she bought it of Warner, who lived in Great Wilde-street, a fishmonger, for 10s.—a few minutes after that, I asked her if she had any more—she went to her parlour, and then gave me another sixty pieces—I took her into custody—this (produced) is the lace I found at her house and in the basket—I afterwards took Warner in Great Wilde-street, and told him the charge—he said he knew nothing about it—I took him to the station, and he said he recollected something about some lace he had sold to Mrs. Ryan, and she gave him 30s. for it—he got it from a man living at 9, Wilde-court, he did not know his name—I went there, and could find nobody who knew anything about it.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Was there a man living in the attic there? A. Yes.

Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. Were you dressed as a police-man? A. No; I have been on duty there twelve years—I have known Mrs. Ryan twelve years, and never heard anything against her character.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Only one of the sixty-nine duplicates relates to lace? A. Only one—it is 106 strips of worked muslin for 2l., in the name of Hicks—I have heard that Mrs. Furzman kept a tavern for Mr. Hicks, the tragedian, when he went through the Court.

JAMES SCOULLER FISKIN . I am a lace-merchant, at 4, Wood-street. This lace is my property, and what 1 sent, on 19th Oct., to Waterloo-house—what I sent was worth 137l.—I cannot say whether it is all here—it is lace of a very peculiar sort.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. What state was it then in? A. In pieces, as it is now—it is all worked by hand in Ireland.

Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. Do you call it lace? A. Lace or muslin—the small pieces are worth about 2s. 6d., and the large ones about 6s.—I can scarcely judge, the tickets being taken off.

JOSEPH BAKER . I am foreman to Mr. Dicker, pawnbroker, of Lambeth-marsh. I produce some muslin embroidery which was pledged at our shop on 22nd Oct. by Furzman, in the name of Hicks (produced)—I have the counterpart of the duplicate, and the one produced is the one I gave her—she told me it belonged to a lady who was going to Australia, and was going to make it into caps and collars.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Had you known her several years? A. Yes; persons do not pledge in their own name once in twenty times—I did not know the value, but knowing she was in the theatrical line, I thought it was some stuff to be made up for those purposes—I know Mr. Hicks, and know that Mrs. Furzman used to manage a public-house he kept, and I know she has brought us property of his—I have known her four or five years, and believe her to be respectable—I should have no objection to lend her any sum of money—I have lent her money, and always found her correct.

JAMES SCOULLER FISKIN re-examined. This muslin is my property, and is some of what I sent to Waterloo-house on 19th Oct.—there are ninety-eight or 100 pieces still missing—this that had 2l. lent on it is worth about 30l.

(Furzman and Ryan received excellent characters.)


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-45
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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45. CHARLES PIPE , stealing 10 sovereigns, 6 half-crowns, and 5 sixpences, and other moneys; of Samuel Dutton, his master: to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Six Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-46
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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46. GEORGE DAVIS , stealing 6 blankets and 1 wrapper, value 4l. 14s.; the goods of William Chaplin and another: to which he pleaded

GUILTY .*† Aged 49.— Confined Twelve Months.

OLD COURT.—Thursday, November 28th,1850.


Before Russell Gurney, Esq.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-47
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty; Guilty > pleaded guilty

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47. ANN DAVIS , and MARY HUMPHREYS , stealing 1 cloak, and other articles, value 7l. 10s.; the goods of Georgiana Morson, in her dwelling-house: to which

DAVIS pleaded GUILTY .* Aged 17.

HUMPHREYS pleaded GUILTY .* Aged 17.

Confined Six Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-48
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment; Corporal > whipping

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48. GEORGE WOOD , burglary in the dwelling-house of John Jones, and stealing 5 pieces of calico, value 5s.; his goods: to which he pleaded

GUILTY .* Aged 15.— Confined Three Months and Whipped.

Before Mr. Baron Alderson and the Fourth Jury.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-49
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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49. JOHN EDMUND CUNNINGTON , stealing, whilst employed in the Post-office, a letter containing 1s. 6d., and a duplicate; the property of Her Majesty's Postmaster-General.

MESSRS. CLARKSON and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.

MATTHEW PEAK . I am a police-officer, attached to the Post-office. The prisoner was a clerk in the Inland department—it was part of his duty to sort letters—I received instructions on the morning of 14th Nov., and stationed myself, at a quarter-past seven o'clock, in a place where I had a full view of him—I saw him sorting letters at the Great Western division—he took up a handful of letters, put them into his left hand, and sorted them according to their destinations—he continued doing so till a quarter-past eight, when he shuffled some letters, put his left elbow on the table, and I saw him working some paper, which appeared like a letter, between his three fingers, into the palm of his hand, holding some letters between his fore-finger and thumb—he then got up, and went out of my sight with some letters in his left hand, and one swinging in his right hand—the three fingers of his left hand were closed—I communicated to Forbes—I was soon after called into Mr. Bokenham the president's office, and found the prisoner there—Mr. Bourne, a president, was also there—it was from twenty minutes to half-past eight, directly after this transaction—Mr. Bourne said to the prisoner, "I suspect you have got a letter about you, Mr. Cunnington, and the officer must search you"—he said he was willing to be searched, he had nothing about him—I searched him, but found nothing referring to this charge—I saw some letters lying

on a desk opposite, and told Mr. Bourne there was a cash letter among them—the prisoner could hear what I said—Mr. Bourne then examined the letters, and under the last letter was this one (produced) in the state it is in now, open, but apparently crumpled up—the seal was not broken—I then took the prisoner into custody—the letter was opened before the Magistrate by his direction, and was found to contain one shilling, a six-pence, and a pawnbroker's duplicate—a person handling the letter could feel that there was money in it.

Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. How far was the place where you were posted from the prisoner? A. Fourteen yards; I was in front of him—he had a desk in front of him, which might be a little higher or lower than his Lordship's desk—it was divided into several compartments for the letters—there are a row of clerks at that place, but they were gone to other duties—there was not a clerk on each side of the prisoner at a quarter-past eight when this happened, nor within two or three yards of him—there were clerks buzzing about—there were twenty or thirty in the office, but the room is twice as big as this Court—there was nothing between him and me but the desk—I was above him, in a gallery, looking down through a small hole constructed for that purpose—Forbes was in and out, but I never took my eyes from the prisoner for an hour—I have watched with Forbes a great number of times—I have been a constable in the Post-office twelve years—Forbes went away, but I continued to watch.

JOHN FORBES . I am one of the managers of the General Post-office. On 14th Nov., in the morning, Peak said something to me, and I saw the prisoner passing from the front Inland-office into the tick-room with a few letters between the thumb and finger of his left hand, and some paper in his hand with three fingers closed upon it, and one letter in his right hand—he passed me in the middle of the front office—I went round one of the large tables there, and met him at the tick-room door, to make more sure whether he had anything in his hand—I again saw the letters and paper in his left hand—he went into the tick-room—I made a communication to Mr. Bourne, the president.

Cross-examined. Q. Are you sure you saw this paper the first time you passed him? A. Yes; more particularly than the second time—I was quite sure, but I went round to make more sure—he was within two feet of me the first time, and had got ten or eleven letters between his finger and thumb—I expected to see some paper in his hand from what Peak said.

HENRY BOURNE . I am one of the presidents of the General Post-office. The prisoner has been a clerk in my department about eighteen months—on 14th Nov. I received instructions from Forbes, and went to the tick-room door, and saw the prisoner there talking to Lugsden the tick-clerk—I then returned to the Inland-office, and remained there till the prisoner came out of the tick-room half a minute afterwards with a letter in his right hand, and others in his left, held in the ordinary way of sorting between the finger and thumb—he said he had been to the tick-clerk, or to the tick-room, to ascertain if the letter in his right hand was registered, the word "registered" being written on the top of it; I saw that—I said, "I wish to speak to you, come with me"—he went with me into Mr. Bokenham's office—I took the letter, and was speaking to him about it, till

Peak entered the room—he retained the letters in hit left hand—I took them from him, or he gave them to me, I cannot say which—I placed them on the table, about the time Peak came in—I said "I have reason to believe you have a letter secreted about you;" he denied it, and said Peak might search him; he was searched and there was nothing—Peak said, "I am certain he had a letter, and it must be amongst these," pointing to the letters on the table—there were fourteen; I turned them over one by one, this one was the last; the seal was not broken, only this small fold was on it then; the envelope is too big, and is folded over the letter—Peak said, "That is the letter he had in his hand"—it bears the General Post mark of 14th Nov., and the Portsmouth stamp of Nov. 18th —it would be in the Great Western collection, being directed "Mr. Whittaker, 28, Charlotte-terrace, Morristown, Devonport, Devon," and would have come into the prisoner's possession that morning, in his lawful employment—it would be his duty to sort it to the Devonport division—if he found a letter with the word "registered" on it, it would be his duty to show it to the officer of our division, who is generally walking about superintending the sorting; and in the event of not finding him, to bring it to me—I should take it to the tick-clerk, to ascertain if it was registered—the prisoner had no right to do that; I was on duty, and he had to pass my desk to go to the tick-room—it was not really a registered letter, or the word "registered" would have been written on it in red ink; independent of which it should have had six extra stamps on it—a person conversant with the Post-office would know that it was not a registered letter—it is wrong for a clerk to carry letters from the sorting-place.

COURT. Q. Should yon have gone to Lugsden with it? A. I might, but I should have seen that there had been no fee paid on it, and that the postmaster's writing was absent—sometimes they omit the word "registered" and put the stamps, and then the president writes it himself, having ascertained that it is registered.

Cross-examined. Q. Who would put the six stamps on it? A. Probably the postmaster; there has been a change recently in the registration fee—if the prisoner had brought it to me, or to the senior of the division, they could not have told him positively that it was not registered—we are very particular, and we might have referred to the bill—I should have said, "Go on with your duty"—I should have gone with it to Mr. Lugsden, and brought it back to him if it was not registered, to sort in the ordinary manner—it was quite necessary to make the inquiry, in case the servant of the Post-office bad kept the fee—the prisoner was in the Secretary's-office first—I do not know for how long; clerks are not usually promoted from one department to another—it is most likely I took the letters from the prisoner's hand before they were put on the table—Peak took this letter from me, he did not lay hold of it first—it had the appearance of being doubled in three before Peak touched it, and I told him not to make it worse—the letters were unsorted, and all of the Great Western division.

WILLIAM LUGSDEN . I am tick-clerk in the Post-office. On 14th Nov. the prisoner came to me and asked me if the letter he had got was entered on the bill; I referred to it, and told him no such letter was entered—I did not notice any letters in his left hand.

Cross-examined. Q. There was nothing particular in his manner? A. Nothing—I did not think it extraordinary that he should make the inquiry of me—I was not surprised.

ROBERT WALKER . I am a master in the Royal Navy, and live at Portsea. On 13th Nov. I made up this letter, and addressed it—I put in it a duplicate, a shilling and a sixpence, and posted it at Southsea, at eight o'clock in the evening, in time for that night's post.


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-50
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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50. JOHN EDWARD CUNNINGTON was again indicted for a like offence.

MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN FORBES . I am a messenger in the General Post-office. On 13th Nov. I was directed to watch the prisoner while he was sorting the letters of the Great Western division—I was in a small room near him—about twenty minutes past eight o'clock he proceeded to sort, and sorted all out of his hand, and rose up from the table with his left hand closed, and went over to a table a yard or two behind, and spoke to a clerk there—I went close by him, and saw him pressing heavily with his right hand upon his left, which was on the table—shortly after he went across the two offices, and went in a direction towards the water-closets, I noticed that his left-hand was closed—I went into the adjoining closet—I could see from one to the other very well—I saw him sit down, take a letter with a red seal from his left coat pocket, open it, take it out of the envelope, take something out of the letter, I could not see what, and put it in his right hand—he then read the letter for a minute or so—I could distinctly see the letter, and I read the words, "Rochester, Nov. 12, My dear father,"—after he had looked at it, he tore it in four pieces, and put it down the pan behind him—it is an open seat; the pressure of the person on it causes the pump to act, and the letter would go down into the trap—a person named Russell was with me—on seeing this I made a communication to him—I remained there till Blackburn the plumber came—no person had entered the water-closet before he came—he examined the closet on which the prisoner had sat, and I saw him take out these four pieces of paper, and the envelope which bears the postmark, "Rochester, Nov. 12."

Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. Were you watching from the same place that we heard of a little while ago? A. No; my duty leads me about there—I went to the water-closet about half-past eight o'clock—I looked through a grating between the two water-closets, which are side by side—the grating is rather behind the seat—it is about an inch between the bars, about two feet high, and all the width of the wall—you can see from one plainly enough into the other—I do not think he could see me if he had looked, because the closet I was in is dark—the one where he was is light—I could see distinctly—Blackburn came in about a minute or so, at a few minutes before nine—the prisoner was not taken into custody, or searched—nothing was done to him at all—I reported the case—nothing was said about it till he was taken up on the other charge—it is not likely that they would tell the prisoner of it—I may have been in twenty or thirty of these cases, but have never watched persons in the water-closets before—what I have seen has been in the office.

WILLIAM RUSSELL . I am one of the police-officers attached to the Post-office—I was with Forbes, and saw the prisoner in the water-closet—I looked through the grating, and saw him undo his breeches, sit down, and take from his left pocket a small letter with a red seal—I heard a rumpling of paper, and saw him reading a letter, and heard him put the paper behind him—he then got up—I remained till the plumber came,

and saw him take out these pieces of paper (produced)—Forbes had made a communication to me before this was found, of what was on it—Forbes was looking over the prisoner's left shoulder.

Cross-examined. Q. Are there as many as twenty clerks engaged in sorting letters in the same department? A. I dare say there are.

WILLIAM BLACKBURN . I am a plumber of the Post-office. I went to the water-closet on this morning, and found these papers in the trap—you can always find in the trap what the person who was there last has left—the papers do not always go away every time—there were several other pieces of paper there—each closet has a separate trap—the bottom of the grating is about one foot six inches above the seat, and the top two feet—it is six inches deep, and comes about the level of the shoulder.

JAMES FREDERICK FRY . I live at Rochester. On 12th Nov., I addressed a letter to my father at Axminster, near Devon—I put one shilling in it—it was in an envelope—this is it—it is in my writing—I sealed it with red, and posted it at St. Margaret's Bank, about half-past seven o'clock in the evening—I see no remains of the seal.

JOHN FORBES re-examined. This is the letter I saw in the prisoner's hand—here is what I read.

WILLIAM BOKENHAM . I am the superintending president of the Post-office. On 13th Nov. I had a communication from Forbes, and on the following day the prisoner was taken.

Cross-examined. Q. How many communications from different people did you have about anything on that day? A. Fifty or sixty.

GUILTY . Aged 30.— Transported for Ten Years.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-51
VerdictsGuilty > pleaded guilty

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51. GEORGE ROUSE , burglary in the dwelling-house of George Seaton, and stealing 1 knife, and 3 bags, value 1s.; 380 shillings, 14 half-crowns, and other moneys; his property. He was also charged with burglariously breaking out of the dwelling-house: to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Transported for Life.

(There was another indictment against the prisoner for feloniously stabbing William Godwin, the policeman, who apprehended him, and to whom the COURT directed a reward of 10l. to be given.)

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-52
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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52. JAMES NORTHEAST was charged upon the Coroner's Inquisition only with feloniously killing and slaying William Arnold, the younger.

MESSRS. BODKIN and ROBINSON conducted the Prosecution.

HARRIETT ARNOLD . I am the mother of the deceased—his name was William Arnold, the same as his father, who is living—I last saw him alive on Friday night, Oct. 27—he was then in very good health—his age was twenty last July.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Where did he go to from you that night? A. I do not know; he quarrelled with me and left—he did not sleep at home that night—he was not in a great rage—we had a few words about money.

WILLIAM STEAD . My father is a licensed victualler, and keeps the Ship public-house, Limekiln-hill, Limehouse—the prisoner used to help in the house occasionally—on the last Wednesday in Oct. he came in about half-past seven in the evening—the deceased was sitting on a form, opposite the bar—he called for a pint of porter—I served him with it—a

few words passed between him and the prisoner; I do not know what about; and the deceased made use of very abusive and obscene language to the prisoner—the prisoner took the deceased up with his left arm, opened the street-door with his right hand, they both went out together, and I saw no more of them—the prisoner was rather in liquor—the deceased was intoxicated—I saw no blow struck.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you known him long? A. Three months—he is a quiet decent person—the deceased was not violent, only very abusive, and that was his general character—I believe he was a little man, about twenty years old; and a very drunken dissipated little fellow he was.

JAMES HART . I am a waterman, and live in Jamaica-place, Limehouse. About half-past seven, on this Wednesday evening, I was passing by the Ship, at Limehouse, and saw some men collected round Arnold, who was lying on the pavement, in front of the public-house—I helped to pick him up, and took charge of him until Willoughby came up.

WILLIAM WILLOUGHBY (policeman K 32). I was passing the Ship, and saw the deceased sitting on the pavement, leaning against the public-house—he was quite insensible—I observed a bruise over his right eye—I took him to the station—I sent for Mr. Bailey the surgeon, and Mr. Robertson, his assistant, came—I afterwards sent him to the workhouse, about six o'clock.

Cross-examined. Q. I think you have said that he presented the appearance of having had a fall? A. Yes, from the mud on his face and about his person—it did not rain, but it was a very dirty night—I did not notice any mud exactly where the bruise was, but I did about his face—I took him to the station, thinking he was drunk—I did not take him there at that time—a young man came up and said he knew him, and said he would take him home, and I allowed him to do so—he carried him on his back; but I found him again in about half an hour in a street called Ropemakers'-fields, two or three hundred yards off—he was then sitting against a wall, quite insensible—I then sent him to the station.

MART ANN TAYLOR . I am servant to Mrs. Brown, a pastry-cook, at Limehouse. About half-past seven, on this Wednesday evening, I went to the Ship, and saw a smallish man, whom I first supposed to be a boy, standing on the pavement—the prisoner directly came out, and struck the man on the left side of the head—that blow appeared to deprive the man of sense, and he fell, and he never moved afterwards—the prisoner lifted him up again by the front of his clothes, and struck him a second time, I cannot exactly say where, but I think it must have been on the head—he then seemed to let go of him, and he fell again—the prisoner directly went into the Ship, and Hart came and picked the man up.

Cross-examined. Q. You were going on an errand to the Ship? A. I was—I was rather confused when I saw this done—I did not go up to the man—it was a light night—I was not far off—it was done so quick that I could not interfere—there did not appear to be any struggle going on—it was not on the threshold of the door that the first blow was struck; it was exactly outside the door—I did not see them both come out—the deceased was outside when I first saw him.

JOSEPH SMITH . I am errand-boy to a milkman, at Limehouse. On the last Wednesday in Oct. I was standing opposite the Ship and saw the prisoner come out with a little man—the prisoner pushed him out—he

spoke to him but I did not hear what he said—he knocked him into the road, then picked him up, and threw him down again, saying, "There you b——, you are all right"—he then went into the public-house again—a policeman came up, and the little man was placed on a man's back and taken away.

Cross-examined. Q. Was not Northeast the first person you saw? A. No; I was examined before the Coroner—Northeast did come out first and pull the man after him.

CATHERINE PATFIELD . I was passing the Ship on this evening, and saw the prisoner stumbling over something in the road which I thought was a child or a sack—it turned out to be a man—the prisoner lifted him up by the front of his clothes—he slipped out of his hand and fell—I afterwards saw the man in Ropemakers'-fields—I have seen his dead body since.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you near enough to him to hear any language that might have been used? A. I heard him say the man was not so drunk but he could stand on his legs—that was when he went to lift him up—I heard no coarse language used, and saw no blows struck—I think I was near enough to have seen it if there had been any.

JAMES PEPPER . I was passing the Ship, and saw two men come out—the big one shoved the little one out—I cannot say whether the prisoner was one of the men—the little one tumbled down, the other picked him up and threw him down again, saying, "There you b——, take that"—I saw no blow.

Cross-examined. Q. Where were you standing? A. At my master's shop, about twenty yards off—it was not a light night.

JOHN READ . I was in the Ship on this evening, and saw the prisoner come in—shortly after Arnold came in, he was very drunk—I did not perceive that the prisoner was tipsy—as soon as Arnold came in he began blackguarding, singing, and dancing, and making use of very bad language—I told him to keep his own company or go out—he would not—I told him the same again—the prisoner came in and said he had better hold his noise, or go out—after that the prisoner went into the tap-room to attend to his business—he came out again and some words passed, and he said, "I shall take your arm and put you out," which he did—I saw no violence—the prisoner went out with him—I went out shortly after and saw Arnold lying in the street.

Cross-examined. Q. Were the persons in the public-house calling out to have him turned out? A. Yes; the prisoner was a servant of the house.

JOHN HEGGS . I am a greengrocer. I was in the Ship public-house on this evening, and saw Arnold there—he was behaving very improperly indeed—the prisoner came in—Arnold began using bad language, and the prisoner wished him to go out, and said if he did not he should turn him out—he went into the tap-room and had some beer—he came out again, took hold of him and shook him, and put him out of the door by his left arm—I think they were both drunk.

RONALD ROBERTSON . I am a surgeon. I saw Arnold at the station—I found him in a state of complete insensibility—I found an abrasion of the skin over the right temple, as if from a fall—I saw no other marks on him—he was covered with mud—I saw him again about twelve o'clock, at

the station—he was rather better then, but I made no further examination—I did not see him afterwards.

THOMAS GRAY . I am a surgeon. I was called to see the deceased on the Thursday morning—I found him in a state of perfect insensibility—he had a bruise over the right temple, and a slight abrasion of the skin—he died three days afterwards—I made a post mortem examination—I observed a slight bruise over the left temple, and two slight bruises on the left cheek, with a larger bruise on the right temple; and on reflecting back the scalp I observed a large clot of extravasated blood, covering the whole of the right temple, and part of the frontal bone; also a similar clot on the left side, corresponding with the bruise—the cause of death was the inflammation of the brain which supervened, and the effused serum—no doubt the inflammation was caused by a blow or fall—the two marks on the cheek induced me to think they were produced by a blow from the knuckles.

Cross-examined. Q. He died of concussion of the brain, did he not? A. Yes; that might have been caused by a fall—drunken persons have a good many falls.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY of an Assault. Aged 57.— Confined Six Days.

Before Mr. Baron Martin.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-53
VerdictNot Guilty > directed

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53. JOHN ALTHAM HARTLEY , feloniously uttering a forged order for the payment of 5l. 10s.; with intent to defraud Francis Butcher.

MR. PAYNE conducted the Prosecution.

FRANCIS BUTCHER . I keep the Blue Pig public-house, in St. Mary-Axe. I know the prisoner—on Wednesday, 16th Oct., about half-past seven o'clock in the evening, he came and asked me if I could cash this check for him—(read"London, 16th Oct, 1850. London and Westminster Bank, Westminster Branch, 1, St. James's-square. Pay to Messrs. Hartley and Unwin, or bearer, 1l. 10s." Signed, "James Reynolds.")—I advanced him a sovereign and 10s. upon it—I kept the check till next morning—I then gave it to Mr. Gray, of Camomile-street, to pass through a banker's—it was returned to me, dishonoured, on the Saturday—the prisoner told me he had received it for ground-rent at Woolwich.

EDMUND BIRDMORE . I am a clerk, in the London and Westminster Bank—no such person as James Reynolds keeps any cash at our house.

DAVID HEWITT (City-policeman, 233). The prisoner was given into my custody on 8th Nov., at the Horse and Groom, Holborn-hill, by the prosecutor's son—I told him he was charged with passing a forged check for 5l. 10s. on that young man's father-in-law, Mr. Butcher, of the Blue Pig, St Mary-Axe—he said he did not know where the Blue Pig was, nor did he know Mr. Butcher—he cautioned the prosecutor's son to be very careful what he did; that it was a serious thing to give a man into custody for uttering a forged check—the young man said, "I am convinced you are the party, and therefore I shall give you into custody"—he said at the station that he had only received 30s. on the check.

FRANCIS BUTCHER re-examined. I have no doubt about the prisoner's being the person that came to me—I know a Mr. James Reynolds—he lives somewhere in the Hackney-road—I do not know his writing.

The COURT was of opinion that there was no evidence to show that James Reynolds was a fictitious person, and directed the Jury to find a verdict of


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-54
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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54. JOHN ALTHAM HARTLEY was again indicted for uttering a forged order for the payment of 5l. 10s., with intent to defraud Thomas South.

MR. PAYNE conducted the Prosecution.

HENRY DREW . I am a surgeon, in Gower-street. I have known the prisoner many years—I do not know what he is now, he was a lawyer—I knew his family—he came to me on 10th Oct., represented himself to be in great distress, and asked me to write him a letter recommending him to a situation in the police-force—I wrote him a very guarded certificate—he then said he had had nothing to eat that day, and borrowed 2s., promising to repay it on the Saturday—he came again on Saturday, 12th Oct., and said he was unable to pay the 2s.—he produced this check, and asked if I would be kind enough to cash it, or advance him something on it, as it was after banking hours—it was between five and six in the evening—I lent him 30s. on it, which was all I had in my purse, and said I would cash it on Monday, and give him the difference—he said it had been paid to him by the drawer; that 2l. 10s. of it belonged to himself, and the rest to Mr. Unwin—I said, "I suppose it is a good check?"—he said, "Do you think I would give you one I did not believe to be good, and you such an old friend?"—I did not ask him who George South was—( the check purported to be drawn by George South for 5l. 10s., on the London and Westminster Bank, payable to Hartley and Unwin, and was dated 14th Oct., 1850)—it was on Saturday 12th he gave it to me—I afterwards wrote to him, stating that the check was dishonoured, but he did not answer my letter.

THOMAS SMITH . I am a surgeon, in Bow-lane. On Friday afternoon, 18th Oct., the prisoner brought me this check—(this was dated 18th Oct., on the London and Westminster Bank for 5l. 10s., payable to Messrs. Hartley and Unwin, and signed James Reynolds)—he asked me to let him have a few shillings on it; that it was a crossed check, and he could not get it changed—I gave him 10s., and he said he would call for the rest in the morning—he called next day, but I did not see him.

EDMUND BIRDMORE . I am a clerk in the Westminster branch of the London and Westminster Bank. We have no account with James Reynolds or George South—these checks bear the same number—that number would only be given to one person—these came out of a check-book which was issued to a Mr. Matthews, five or six years ago.

GUILTY . Aged 33.— Transported for Ten Years.

Before Mr. Baron Alderson.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-55
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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55. JOHN COLLINS , feloniously stabbing and wounding James Clift on the left hand and left side, with intent to murder him.—2nd COUNT, with intent to maim him.—3rd COUNT, to do him grievous bodily harm.

MR. RUSSELL conducted the Prosecution

JAMES CLIFT . I am porter at the workhouse of the East London Union. On the evening of 4th Nov., about seven o'clock, the prisoner and another man knocked at the workhouse door, and asked for a night's lodging and relief—I told them I had got no relief for able-bodied paupers—I then shut the door—they knocked again within five minutes, and asked if I meant to give them a night's lodging—they then asked me to give them some bread—I told them I could give them no bread, unless I gave it out of my own pocket—they said, "Then keep it and be b——d,

and if you don't let us in we will break your windows"—I desired them to go away—they refused—I shut the door—in about two minutes some one came and told me they were attempting to break the windows—I went out and told them to quit the yard—they refused—I said I must remove them by force unless they went quietly—they still refused—I then laid hold of the prisoner, and attempted to eject him, and put him down the yard—he resisted—I got him into the passage—he then struck me several times, as I thought with his fist on my side—after I got lower down the passage I found the blood trickling down my drawers—I called out for help, and Dawson, the other porter, came up, and I then fainted—I was confined to my bed for several days—I am sure it was the prisoner that stabbed me—I was not struggling at all with his companion.

Prisoner. There were other persons round him; the passage was full of people. Witness. It was not—he was the only person I was in contact with.

ALEXANDER DAWSON . I am a porter, at the East London Union, I was in the house when the prisoner came—I heard Clift exclaim that he had been wounded—I went to his assistance, and laid hold of the prisoner—he had something in his hand, I could not see what it was—I had a tustle with him in the passage, and threw him down—a policeman was sent for, and he was given in charge.

JOHN JACOBS (City-policeman, 266). I was called, and took the prisoner—I held him while Saunders searched him, and saw him take this knife (produced) from his pocket—on the way to the station, I asked if he was sorry he had done it—he said, "No."

JOHN SAUNDERS ( City-policeman, 236). I assisted in searching the prisoner, and found this clasp-knife in his right-hand coat-pocket.

HENRY WILLIAM LOBB . I am a surgeon, and live in Aldersgate-street. I was called to see Clift on the Monday evening—he was bleeding from three wounds; two under the left arm, and a third in the left hand—they were stab-wounds, about half an inch deep, and an inch and a half broad—this knife would produce such wounds—if the knife had been sharp, no doubt he would have been killed—it is very blunt, and could not hurt him very much.

Prisoner's Defence. I went for a night's lodging; he would not allow me any, and I said I would break the windows; he caught me by the collar, and struck my head against the wall, and dragged me about the yard; I struck him in the face, and he screamed out, and said I had stabbed him.

GUILTY on 3rd Count. Aged 20.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury.—

Confined One Year.

NEW COURT.—Thursday, Nov. 28th, 1850.


Before Mr. Recorder and the Seventh Jury.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-56
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Three Mouths.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-57
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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GUILTY. Aged 17.—Recommended to mercy. Confined Two Months

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-58
VerdictsGuilty > unknown
SentencesNo Punishment > sentence respited

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58. JOHN PAYNE , stealing 1 carpet and 1 kettle, value 8s., and 1 shilling; the property of Henry Smith, his master: also, I crown and other moneys, of his said master: to both which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 14.— Judgment Respited.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-59
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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GUILTY. Aged 18.—Recommended to mercy. Confined Fourteen Days

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-60
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60. CHARLOTTE GREGORY , stealing 1 shawl, value 30s.; the goods of Thomas Andrews, her master: to which she pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Judgment Respited.

25th November 1850
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61. ALFRED TURNBULL , stealing 221bs. weight of bees' wax and 19ozs. of pepper, value 2l. 1s. 6d.; the goods of the London Dock Company.

MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.

ROBERT MADGE . I am foreman of the London Docks. On the morning of 6th Nov. I went to No. 6 warehouse—I found the wrapper of a case of arrow-root, partly cut, and partly torn off—I am certain it was perfect the day before—I then looked in the gangway leading to the other entrance, and saw the prisoner making his way out—he represented himself as a lighterman—lightermen do come to that place—he said he came for a bag of pepper; he thought he had seen his mate come in there, and he came in after him—I asked what lighter he belonged to—he said, "Mr. Gunner's"—I asked where the lighter lay—he said, "At the West Quay"—I remained with him till Mr. Dix came.

GEORGE DIX . I am a constable of the London Docks. I went to the spice warehouse on 6th Nov.—I found the prisoner detained by Madge in the gangway—I asked what he was—he said he was a lighterman, and he was come to look for his mate, and they were come for some pepper—I told him lightermen had no business there, and he, knew it—he said he came to look for his mate—I took him in the constables' room and searched him—I found some pepper in his left-hand jacket pocket, and some was inside his shirt—I asked him where he got it, and he told me it was the sweeping of a barge—I told him he was in custody, and I asked him what barge—he said one of Mr. Gunner's—I asked him where she was; he said at the West Quay—I asked him to go and show me the barge—he said it was no use, he did not know where she was—I then went into the warehouse, and saw a bag of black pepper cut, and good part of it had run out—I took a sample of it, and it corresponded exactly with what I found on the prisoner—the bag appeared to have been fresh cut—I then went in the

next room; the floors are parted off with a wooden partition—I there saw a case of white wax—it was open, and part of the contents appeared to be out—I then examined the warehouse, and saw a nuisance on the floor, which appeared to have been recently done—I concluded that some person had been there all night—I then examined a window, and found it had been recently forced open, and by the side of that window I found about 1lb. of beeswax, and the dust of the window was disturbed—this was on the premises of the London Dock Company.

Prisoner's Defence. The pepper I had I picked up in the barge.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Six Months.

Before Russell Gurney, Esq.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-62
VerdictsGuilty > pleaded guilty; Guilty > unknown
SentencesImprisonment; Corporal > whipping; Transportation

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62. WILLIAM HALLETT , stealing 1 coat, I waistcoat, and other articles, value 3l.; the goods of John Bosworth, his master; and HENRY BAKER , feloniously receiving the same; having been before convicted: to which

HALLETT pleaded GUILTY . Aged 13.—He received a good character.

Confined Seven Days and Whipped.

FRANCES BOSWORTH . I am the wife of John Bosworth, a butcher, of 6, Cambridge-place, Paddington. Hallett has been his servant two years—he slept at home—on the Tuesday before he was before the Magistrate he did not come as usual, and I missed a frock coat which had not been worn since May, a satin waistcoat and scarf, a pillow, a pair of trowsers, and a bag—they were wrapped up in an apron, which was taken as well—I saw them all safe a week before—these are them (produced)—they are mine.

HENRY SMITH . I am shopman to Mr. Gideon, a pawnbroker—I produce a coat and waistcoat, pledged by Baker, on 23rd Oct.—he said they were his own, and he had been in the habit of having eight shillings on them.

GEORGE FERRIS (policeman, D 28). I took Baker, and told him he was charged with receiving some things from Hallett, knowing them to be stolen—he said he did not tell him to take them.

Baker's Defence. A boy named Barnes offered me a shilling to pawn them; I said, "Are you sure you did not steal them?" he said, "Yes; they were given me by a young gentleman who is gone to sea."

ALFRED PAYNE (policeman, D 235). I produce a certificate from Clerkenwell—(read—Henry Baker, convicted, on his own confession, of stealing a handkerchief, and confined three months)—I was present—he is the person.

GUILTY .** Aged 17.— Transported for Seven Years.

THIRD COURT.—Thursday, November 28th, 1850.



Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Seventh Jury.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-63
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Three Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-64
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64. JAMES BARNES and JOHN NAYLOR , stealing 1 tame rabbit, value 2s.; the property of John Balcomb: Barnes having been before convicted.

WILLIAM HAYCOCK . I am a stone-sawyer, and live in the Commercial-road. On 30th Oct., at seven o'clock in the morning, as I was at work, I saw Naylor standing outside a hoarding in Desborough-place—I heard some kind of talk taking place—I could not tell whether it was Naylor or some one inside the hoarding—I looked over the hoarding, and saw Barnes with another man not in custody—one was in the enclosed ground belonging to a house—I saw one of them, I do not know which, hand a rabbit over to the other—Naylor went away, and I took Barnes as he was getting over the fence, a policeman came, and I gave him into custody.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Was not Naylor thirty yards from the fence? A. No.

WILLIAM BLAIR (policeman, B 129). I took Barnes into custody from Haycock—he pointed out the premises—I looked over the hoarding and saw a rabbit, which I took—I took Naylor at seven o'clock at night—he said he was not the man at the stealing of the rabbit.

MART BALCOMB . I am the wife of John Balcomb. I have seen the rabbit that was taken that morning; it is my husband's, and used to be kept in a hutch in the yard, at the back of our house, 23, Desborough-place—in consequence of information on this morning, I looked out of my bed-room window, and saw the rabbit in an enclosed space of ground adjoining the house—it was sitting very quiet, and I thought it was dead—it was in the hutch at nine o'clock the night before.

EDWARD WILLIAMS (policeman, B 45). I produce a certificate of Barnes' conviction at this Court—( read—Convicted May, 1849, having been before convicted—confined twelve months)—I was present—he is the person.


BARNES— GUILTY .** Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-65
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Four Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-66
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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66. CHARLES HALES , stealing 2 loaves of bread, value 6d.; the goods of Joseph Pates, his master.

JOSEPH PATES. I am a baker. The prisoner was in my service—he used to bring the barrow from the yard to the shop-door, and I used to count out the loaves for him to deliver—on 15th Nov., about ten o'clock, he brought the barrow to receive the bread—I then went to the barrow, and saw two loaves there—I asked him what he was going to do with them—he seemed very much confused, and said he was going to pay for them—I called a policeman, and gave him into custody—the bread was mine.

EDWARD MARSHMAN (policeman, V 111). I took the prisoner, and saw the bread in the barrow—the prisoner said he would pay his master a fortnight's wages if he would let him go.

Prisoner's Defence. I do not know how it came there.

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Three Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-67
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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67. JOHN HERBERT , stealing 24 knives, and 24 forks, value 25s.; the goods of Frederick William Cash and another, his masters.

FREDERICK WILLIAM CASH . I am an ironmonger, in partnership with my father, at Whitechapel-row. The prisoner was in our service—in consequence of information, on 14th Nov., I went to Mr. Reynolds' shop in the Mile-end-road, and saw these two dozen knives and forks there (produced)—they are our property, and have not been sold—since we have had this fresh stock from the manufacturer we have not sold one—I told the prisoner what we had missed, and asked him if he knew anything about it—he denied all knowledge of it, and I gave him into custody.

ARTHUR JOHN CHUBB . I am apprentice to Mr. Reynolds, a pawn-broker. I took one of these sets of knives and forks in pledge of the prisoner—I have known him two years.

HENRY JACKSON (policeman, H 11). I took the prisoner—he was spoken to about the knives, and said he knew nothing about them—on the way to the station he said he took two parcels off the counter, but no more.

GUILTY. Aged 17.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor.Confined

Two Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-68
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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68. THOMAS HAWKINS and CHARLES HILL , stealing 1 pair of boots, value 4s.; the goods of Israel Foster: having both been before convicted.

SARAH FOSTER . I am the wife of Israel Foster, who keeps a shoe-shop. On 8th Nov., about two o'clock, I was behind the counter, and saw Hill looking in at the window, and Hawkins about six yards off—I knew them both well—a short time after, I went into the parlour, which is behind the shop, and through a glass door I saw a hand come inside the shop-door, and pull something off the rail—I hastened into the shop, missed a pair of leather boots, went to the door, and, in consequence of what Ainsley told me, I saw a glimpse of some one at the corner—I have not seen the boots since—they were my husband's—Hill was afterwards brought to the shop, and I said, "Oh, you villain! how could you think of robbing me when I have been so kind to you?"—he said, "I do not think I took a pair of boots on Friday."

ISABELLA AINSLEY . I am twelve years old, and live at Willow-place, Balls'-pond, near Mr. Forster's. On this day I saw Hill go to Mr. Foster's, and take the boots from a nail inside the door—he ran past our door with them under his arm—Hawkins was half-a-dozen yards off him when he took the boots.

CHARLES PETTY (policeman, N 49). I took Hill, and took him to Mrs. Foster's, who spoke to him about the boots—he did not answer, and I said, "Why do not you answer?"—he said, "I do not think I took the boots on Friday."

PATRICK BUTLER (policeman, N 82). I took Hawkins, and told him the charge—he said he knew nothing at all about the boots.

JAMES MARSHALL (policeman, N 166). I produce a certificate of Hawkins' conviction at Clerkenwell—(read—Convicted Jan., 1849, and confined two months)—I was present—he is the person.

GEORGE LANGDON (policeman, N 27). I produce a certificate of Hill's

conviction at this Court—(read—Convicted Dec., 1849; Confined seven days and whipped)—I was present—Hill is the party.

HILL— GUILTY . Aged 17.


Confined Twelve Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-69
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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69. WILLIAM LICHFIELD , embezzling 1l. 11s. 9 1/2 d.,15s. 11d., and 6s.; the moneys of Josiah Mayo Hawthorn and another, his masters.

JOSIAH MAYO HAWTHORN . I am a tea-dealer, and have one partner. The prisoner was our porter, and it was his duty to take out goods and receive the money for them—he ought to account to me or Crook, my foreman—he has not accounted to me for 1l. 11s. 9 1/2 d., or 15s.11d., or 6s., or paid it me.

HENRY CROOK . I am Mr. Hawthorn's assistant. On 26th Oct., I sent the prisoner with some goods to Mrs. Smith, of Harley-street, amounting to 1l. 11s. 9 1/2 d.—he was to deliver the goods and receive the money—he ought to account to Mr. Hawthorn or me for it—he has not accounted to me for it or paid it me—I sent him at the same time to Mr. Hopkins, of Weymouth-street, with goods amounting to 15s. 11d., and to Mrs. Holding, with goods amounting to 6s.—he has not paid me those sums or accounted for them—he did not return, and I did not see him till he was at the police-court.

BRIDGET O'HARA . I am in the service of Mrs. Smith, of 81, Harley-street. On 26th Oct. I paid the prisoner 1l. 11s. 9 1/2 d. for grocery—I suppose it was for Mr. Hawthorn.

JULIUS HERCHIN . I am footman to Mr. Hopkins, of Weymouth-street. On 26th Oct. I paid the prisoner 15s. 11d. for some grocery he brought—it was for Mr. Hawthorn.

MARGARET BRADAN . I live at 32, Cirencester-place. On 26th Oct. I paid some one, I do not know who, 6s. for grocery, on Mr. Hawthorn's account—I took a receipt, but have not got it here.

THOMAS MCMATH (City-policeman, 77). I took the prisoner on 10th Nov.

(The prisoner, in a written defence, stated that his friends had paid Mr. Hawthorn 2l., which was to clear him from all defalcations, and that he had a receipt for it.)

JOSIAH MAYO HAWTHORN re-examined. I have received 2l., but I understood it was a composition for the false character he gave me—he was only one afternoon in my employ.

Prisoner. The word "defalcations" occurs in the receipt; the gentleman paid the 2l. on account of Mr. Hawthorn not appearing against me.

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Three Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-70
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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70. JOSEPH PESTALL , embezzling 7s.; the moneys of Robert William Ringer, his master.

ROBERT WILLIAM RINGER . I am a potatoe-salesman. The prisoner was in my service, and used to go out with potatoes, and take the money for them—he ought to pay me the money as soon as he came home—on 30th Oct. my mistress, who is not here, sent him with a sack of potatoes to Mrs. Hurley, of 2, George-street, Spitalfields—he did not pay me any money—he did not return, and I did not see him again till he was in custody.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Does your wife attend to the business as well as you? A. Yes; be used to account sometimes to me and sometimes to her—I should not object to his accounting to her—at the station he said he had lost the money, and was afraid of returning—he has been with me three weeks or a month—I have employed him before, and I believe he has been employed by other people about Spitalfields Market.

ANN HURLEY . I am the wife of Patrick Hurley. I remember receiving a sack of potatoes—I paid the lad who brought them 7s., but I did not notice who it was.

THOMAS COUCHAR (policeman, H 186). I took the prisoner on 12th Nov.—I told him the charge—he said it was true he took a sack of potatoes to Mrs. Hurley's, and received 7s. for them—I asked him why he did not come back to his master's—he said he lost 2s. of the money, and did not like to come back.


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-71
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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71. THOMAS ELLEN , stealing 3 metal cocks, value 18s.; the property of George Clarke: having been before convicted.

GEORGE CLARKE . I live at Bennett's-court, Marylebone, and am a smith. On 31st Oct., between six and seven o'clock in the evening, I went out of my shop—I was away three minutes, and when I came back I saw the prisoner and another young man coming from my shop—I went into my shop, and missed three brass cocks which I had seen safe ten minutes before—I then went after the prisoner and stopped him in David-street, and he struck me very violently—I took this cock (produced) out of his pocket—it is mine, and one of those I missed

Prisoner's Defence. I met a young man, who said he had bought two brass taps, and I was going with him to sell them; I did not know they were stolen.

MICHAEL BRIGHT (policeman, D 106). I produce a certificate—(read —Clerkenwell— Thomas Allen, convicted March, 1847, confined six months)—I was present at that trial—the prisoner is the person.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Twelve Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-72
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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72. WILLIAM MCRAE , stealing 1 cruet-stand, value 7s.; the goods of Anthony Granara, his master.

MR. HUDDLESTON conducted the Prosecution.

ANTHONY GRANARA . I keep the Hotel de 1' Europe, 15 and 16, Leicester-place. The prisoner was in my employ up to 19th Nov., when he left, having given me notice on the 12th—he asked me if I would allow him to leave his box for a few days, and I did so—on 22nd Nov. I met him in Leicester-street, with three men, and I said I was sorry to see him in such company, and desired him to come and fetch his box at once—he followed me with his companions to the house, and the waiter brought up the box, when my wife, in the whole presence, said, "Stop that box; I have reason to suspect this man, I will have it searched"—the prisoner objected to that, and called help from his friends, and placed the box off the premises, and said, "It is out now," and struggled to get it away—I helped to pull it inside, and his friends said the best thing he could do was to call, "Police!" and "Murder!"—the police were called, and arrived—the box was then in our possession, inside the bar, and the police

shut the door immediately, and the prisoner was shut out—the policeman asked me what was the matter—the prisoner was let in, and I said I wished to have the box searched—the policeman said, "you can find no objection to your master's searching your box; if you know it is all right, why should you object?"—he said, "I do not wish it to be searched here, it must be searched in a proper place"—I did not know what he meant, and said, "You had better have it searched quietly; why should you object?" he said, "My character"—I said his character would be as good as it was before, if everything was right; he had better have it searched, it would not go further: and after a little conversation, he acceded to it—he was asked for the keys, and said, "I have not got them"—I said, "Where are they?" and he said, "I will go and fetch them"—he went out of the house, and in a few minutes came back without them—he then went out again, and came back with them—he uncorded and unlocked the box—he pulled out a coat, and under it lay a cruet-stand of mine—he said, "Halloo! who puts this here"—I said it was better known to him, and said I would not drop the matter, he must go to the station; and told the policeman so—while in my employ, it was his business to clean the plate twice a week—this cruet-stand was not in use then, it was put by for the winter season, because there is not enough business to employ them all.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Had you occasion to be angry with the prisoner's brother? A. I met the prisoner, with three men, on the 22nd—I did not know his brother was among them—some excisemen had come to my place with the prisoner's brother a short time before—I did not follow them, and say to one of those in company with the excise-men, "So you have turned informer?"—the officers had left the coffee-room, and I said to my servant, "Those are three officers; I wish you would follow them, and see where they go"—I did not go myself—I did not say to the excisemen, or any one with them, "You scoundrel, you have turned informer"—I did say to the prisoner, "William, I am sorry to see you have turned informer; yon are in bad company"—I considered informers bad company—I have a wine licence—I have been established many years in this country—I have been fined by the Excise for selling spirits—once I paid 19l. 10s., another time 34l., and another 15l.—those are the only times I have been fined—I have never been in prison in default of fines; I was never in prison in my life—I have never been summoned before a police-magistrate for any offence—I swear I have not been summoned for keeping my house open at bad hours—this is the stand (produced)—it is Sheffield goods; it cost 15s.—Madame Granara is here—I did not see where the prisoner's box was kept—I was going to let it pass—he said the chambermaid had got his keys—I do not know whether, when the cruet-stand was found, the prisoner said, "I will take my oath I never put it there"—I was astonished to see it there—the porter, waiter, and my son, a little boy about fourteen, sleep in the room where the box was taken from, and the prisoner used to sleep there—there is no mark on the stand—I have missed a similar one.

MR. HUDDLESTON. Q. You have been fined three times? A. Yes—I have no spirit licence—I have been fined because I did not perform strictly the law; because a customer ought to give the money when he wants spirits, and then we send ont for it; and once the waiter went out

with his own money, and afterwards collected it from the customer—I was fined for that, and was told that if I had "free vintner" over my door, it would not occur; sol borrowed the name of Mattheson, who l was told was a free vintner, and who had a room in my house; but it is the law that he must reside in the house, and I was fined 34l. for that—they did not know how to catch me, and they got some officers, dressed as travellers, with boxes full of luggage, and one of them spoke French; and they ordered rum of the waiter, which was fetched from a public-house, and no money was asked for, to fetch it—those are the only charges that have been made against me.

MARGARET GRANARA . I am the last witness's wife. I said to the prisoner, "Oh, you villain; are you guilty of what you have been doing?" and I struck him—he ran up-stairs, and the waiter threw the box into the street—I said, "Now you are guilty; I will have the box searched;" he said I should not—a struggle took place, and he had three or four men dragging at the box outside, and there were five or six inside—I afterwards saw the box searched, and the cruet-stand found.

Cross-examined. Q. What did you mean by "Oh, you villain, are you guilty of what you have been doing?" A. "Are you guilty of being in such company?"—I meant the excisemen—we have no licence, and I thought it was hard of him, as he was aware of it—the box was down-stairs, in a room where six or seven servants sleep, which is used in the day by the waiters, in washing silver aud glasses—the prisoner was aware we had been in trouble with the excise two or three times—the prisoner had been with us about two months—our house has never been complained of by the police.

ELIZA JEFFREYS . I am chambermaid at the Hotel de l'Europe. When the prisoner left, on the 19th, he left his keys with me, and I kept them till I gave them up to him in a small box in the kitchen-drawer—any one in the kitchen, the cook and housemaid, go to that drawer—the keys were there at my command when he came for them—I saw the box before he left—it was fastened with a cord.

EZER FREEMAN (policeman, C 10). I was called, and saw the box just inside the door, in the passage—it was then removed into the bar-parlour—I asked the prisoner several times to undo his box, and he refused—some conversation then took place between him and Mr. Granara respecting his character, and he said he would undo it—he went out to fetch the key, came back, and said he could not find the chambermaid—he went out again, brought the key, the box was opened, and the cruet-stand found under a coat—he said, "There, sir; I will take my oath I never put it there."

Cross-examined. Q. How do you mean about his going out? A. He went out into the next house, where the chambermaid was.

FRANCIS SIMONDS ( policeman, C 42). I heard screams of "Murder!" went to the house, and saw the prisoner having hold of the rope round the box, trying to get it away from Madame Granara—I said there was something thing wrong, and he had better have it searched; most likely there was more in the box than he was aware of—he said several times he would not have it searched—after some conversation, he went and fetched the keys, and the box was opened.

Cross-examined. Q. Did Mr. Granara say, "It will be better for your

character you should have it searched?" A. Yes; Madame Granara was not very violent; she had hold of the box—there was a great deal of excitment.

MRS. MELLISH. I am cook at the hotel. I remember the prisoner leaving on the 19th—I do not know where his box or the keys were—I never touched the keys or the box.

Cross-examined. Q. How many servants are there? A. The waiter, porter, chamber-maid, myself, and a kitchen-maid.

MARY BAILEY . I am the kitchen-maid—I know nothing of the prisoner's box, I never did anything to it.

THEODORE LOCKE . I am waiter at the Hotel de I'Europe. I never had anything to do with the prisoner's box—I knew where it was kept—he left it corded, and it was in the same state when I fetched it up.

Cross-examined. Q. Your duties as waiter take you up-stairs? A. I am up and down-stairs.

MR. HUDDLESTON. Q. Did you sleep in the room? A. Yes; I used to see it when I went there.

( The prisoner received a good character.)


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-73
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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73. ANNA WILLIAMS , stealing 1 basket, value 1s.; the goods of Henry John Coleman: having been before convicted.

BENJAMIN JOHN WATTS . I sell fish in the street. On the night of the 15th Nov., about a quarter to five, I saw the prisoner in John-street, Edge ware-road, with another woman—they went towards Crawford-street—they turned back again, and the prisoner, who was inside, took a basket from Mr. Coleman's cellar, put it under her shawl, and walked on with the other one—I went and took hold of her, and the other ran away—I took her to Mr. Coleman's, and afterwards gave her to a constable, who took the basket from her.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How near were you when she took the basket? A. Across the street—it was getting towards dusk; the gas was alight—the baskets were put so as anybody could take them without any trouble—they were not obliged to go in at all—I am sure it was not the other one took it—I have been a witness once before; I would rather be at my own occupation.

HILL BECK (policeman, D. 127) I saw the prisoner in Watts's custody—I took her to the station, and took this basket (produced) from her.

HENRY JOHN COLEMAN . I am a basket-maker, in John-street—this basket is mine.

Cross-examined. Q. What is it worth? A. One shilling—there were fifteen or sixteen on top of one another, and not tied in any way.

ROGER LEACH (policeman, D 58). I produce a certificate of the prisoner's conviction at this Court—(read— Hannah Dowse, convicted March, 1850, of stealing a watch and other articles of James William Dowse, and confined four months)—I was present—the prisoner was the person.

Cross-examined. Q. She pleaded guilty? A. Yes; it was her brother's watch—I am not aware that she claimed it as having been her father's.

GUILTY. Aged 17.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor. Confined Four Months

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-74
VerdictsNot Guilty > unknown

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74. ROBERT ROLFE , stealing 51bs. weight of mutton, value 2s. the goods of George Page, his matter; and WILLIAM ROLFE feloniously receiving the same.

GEORGE PAGE . I am a butcher, at Cross-street, Hoxton. The prisoner Robert was in my service, and I have known William a long while, he lived next door but one—in consequence of information, on Sunday morning, 10th Nov., a little after seven, I watched and saw Robert take some meat from the shop into a back yard, and throw it over the wall into the yard of Mr. Letsam, the baker, which communicates with the premises next door but one, where the prisoner William lives—I saw him throw something over the wall in a cloth—I went about ten minutes after to my back window, and saw William pick it up, and take it into the bakehouse—I then went to the baker's shop, and saw William and Mr. Letsam—I walked into the kitchen and told Mr. Letsam there was something I wanted to see —we went through the bakehouse into the yard, and I said it was not there—we then found about 51bs. of shoulder of mutton in a cupboard in the bakehouse—there was a skewer in it which I had put in the night before—it was mine—I went to the station, and as I came back I saw a policeman, and gave the prisoner into custody.

Cross-examined by MR. HUDDLESTON. Q. Where were you when you saw Robert? A. On the stairs in the house—I was not at the window when he put it over the wall: I have not said so—I was at the window when William took it up—it was down by the water-buts—I waited by the staircase till he came and fetched it—I waited on the stairs ten minutes after I saw Robert—I had my bead over the banisters, watching him, and saw him take it out of the shop—I then came round the staircase and looked along, and saw him out to the yard—I had received this anonymous letter (produced)—I do not know who wrote it; I have no idea—I can write—Robert was going to leave that day—I heard that day that he had taken a shop—I never heard it before—I did not inquire what he was going to do—he had given me notice to leave, but it was no business of mine to inquire what he was going to do—I heard the shop was somewhere Somers town way—when I went to Mr. Letsam'a I walked into the kitchen and asked the servant—I saw Mr. Letsam in the shop—I did not say a word to him about this till I went out backwards—first of all I walked through the shop into the kitchen, without saying a word to Mr. Letsam—I went into the kitchen and called him—the bakehouse adjoins the kitchen—I did not want to accuse William, if I thought it was not wrong; I spoke to Mr. Letsam about some bread we wanted for breakfast, before I went to the kitchen—I was talking to him about two minutes; I swear it was not more—the servant was in the kitchen—I went, to know if she saw anything of it, because she went out first into the yard—I knew the meat by the skewer—I told Mr. Letsam so at the time, and showed it him—I did not tell him I knew it by a piece of fat—before the Magistrate I told Mr. Letsam that I had heard that Magistrates would not allow butchers to swear to meat unless it was pegged—Robert went out with the meat about half-past eight or twenty minutes to nine—I saw William about a quarter of an hour after—before I found the meat I told Mr. Letsam there was something in the yard that belonged to me—I do not know that I mentioned meat, there was nothing else he could rob me of—I have never been charged with stealing meat; I was never in a station-house in my life, I never heard of two brothers of mine being tried for it.

Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. You did not mention it before William, out of delicacy? A. Yes; I told Mr. Letsam it was not in the yard—it was removed, and was in the bakehouse somewhere—that was after I had been to the kitchen, but I had not been to the bakehouse—I had not looked into the yard from the kitchen; you must go into the bakehouse to do that—I believe William is still in Mr. Letsam's employ; I have not the least doubt of it, I have seen him pass every day since—I mentioned nothing about a piece of fat when the mutton was found—I had a porter in my employ, and a boy beside the prisoner—none of them are here to-day—one is at home, and the other in the hospital—they were both at home, and about that morning—the man was in the shop when Robert went out—my wife was in bed—I did not ask the man to go before the Magistrate.

THOMAS EDIS (policeman, N 173). On 10th Nov., between nine and ten o'clock, Robert was given into my charge—the prosecutor said, "You know what it is for Robert"—he said, "I do"—in going from the shop I said, "What is it all about?"—he said, "A bit of mutton"—I took him to the station, and then took the other prisoner.

Cross-examined by MR. HUDDLESTON. Q. Did you get the mutton? A. Yes; from the prosecutor in his own shop—there was a skewer in it—I heard him say Magistrates would not allow butchers to swear to meat unless it was pegged, so he pegged some of his joints—the prisoners were admitted to bail—it was put by the Magistrate to Mr. Page, whether he wished to prosecute, and he left it in the hands of the Court.

Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. Where did yon find William? A. At his master's—Page found me in the street—he told me he had been to the station.


LETSAM. I am a baker, and live in Cross-street, Hoxton New Town. I am one of the Guardians of the Poor, and a Commissioner of Paving and Lighting, under the Whitechapel Act—the prisoner William has been three yean and a half in my employ—I never had a more faithful and worthy servant—I frequently trusted him with large sums of money, and sent him to the bankers—I have the highest confidence in him—I know that his brother lived next door, at the butcher's—I knew he was going to leave and set up business in Somers'-town—that was generally known—on this Sunday morning, Mr. Page came into my shop, and after loitering about, purchased a half-quartern loaf and paid for it—he did not seem to like to go out of the shop, and all at once he darted out of the shop, and spoke to ray servant—the bakehouse is close to the kitchen—he was away a very short time, and then returned into the shop again—he then told me he suspected there was something going on wrong in the back premises—he said nothing about meat—I went with him into the yard—I was going to turn the tubs up when he said, "It is meat, it is not there, it is in the bakehouse"—when he ran out of the shop into the kitchen be could have got to the bakehouse; it is close by—we went into the bakehouse, went to the cupboard, and there found a piece of mutton in a cloth—I handed it to him, and he said, "It is my property, I know it because I cut a piece of the fat off"—he did not then say anything about the pegs, and I saw none in it—he did not call my attention to any—I am quite sure he said nothing about pegs, and he also told my man he knew it by cutting a piece of the fat off—he went away taking the

meat with him—he returned in a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes with a policeman to take my man—I asked him if he was obliged to take my young man—he said, "Yes; I had taken the precaution of pegging this mutton, for I had been informed that the Magistrates would not allow butchers to swear to meat without marking it"—I know the staircase window in Mr. Page's house—I think it is impossible for any one standing at the waterbutt in my premises to be seen from that window—it was between a quarter and ten minutes to nine when William came down that morning.

MR. O'BRIEN. Q. Do you know the wall where they say the mutton was thrown over? A. Yes; it is seven or eight feet high.

COURT. Q. Can you go from your shop to the bakehouse without going through the kitchen? A. No; from a portion of the staircase window you might see a person come from my premises towards the water-butts, or go from the water-butts to the premises—it is totally impossible from the water-butts to see anything thrown over.

(The prisoners received excellent characters.)


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-75
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty; Not Guilty > unknown

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75. JOHN HOBBS, JOHN SMITH , and GEORGE HESTER , stealing 2 ozs. weight of tobacco, 3 bottles, and other articles, value 2s., and 6 pence; the goods of William Minchin, the master of Hobbs: to which HOBBS pleaded GUILTY. Aged 19.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor. Confined Three Months

WILLIAM MINCHIN . I live at 3, Oxford market. Hobbs was my potman. On Saturday night, 26th Oct., I saw my wife mark eighteen pence, and put them into the till in the bar—I was called next morning at twenty minutes past six o'clock, examined the till, and it was quite safe—about twenty minutes or half-past seven I missed six penny pieces—Smith and Hester lodged in the house—this key (produced) is not mine—I believe the cigars are mine—these six peace are some of those that were in the till.

Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. How long has Smith lodged with you? A. Five or six years, and Hester about the same time.

JOHN SERGEANT (policeman, E 65). On 27th Oct., about twenty minutes past six o'clock, I went with Smith to these premises, and was let in by Mr. Minchin—we hid ourselves in a little room looking into the private bar, from where we had a view of the staircase—I saw the three prisoners come down-stairs; Hobbs went into the bar, and Hester said something to him—he drew a pot of ale and took it towards where Hester was—I could not see Hester—we heard the bar-door unlocked by a key, but we had not a view of the door—I heard Hester say something to Hobbs, and Hobbs said, "What the b——hell more would you have"—I saw Hobbs put something into his pocket which appeared to be screws of tobacco—he then went to another part of the bar, and I heard something like copper money rattle—he then went towards the tap-room—we followed him (Hester was there before)—I took hold of Hobbs, and Smith took out of his pocket a bottle of ginger-beer, and I took six screws of tobacco, and twelve pence, six of which were marked—seeing one of the pieces was marked, he fell down as if shot, and laid perhaps a minute—I afterwards searched his box, and found two other screws of tobacco, and 2l. 15s. 8 1/2 d.

Cross-examined. Q. You saw them all come down-stairs? A. Yes;

three or four minutes after each other—I do not know where Hester was when I heard the door unlocked—I did not see who it was told Hobbs to bring out some ale.

WILLIAM SMITH ( policeman, E 16). On 27th Oct. I went with Sergeant to Mr. Minchin's—we hid ourselves, and saw Smith come down, and shortly after Hobbs and Hester, and they went towards the tap-room—I afterwards saw Hobbs and Hester come along the passage; Hobbs went to the bar-door—I heard him put a key in the door, and Hester said, "Bring out a pot of old ale"—Hobbs said, "What the b—hell more will you have"—I saw Hobbs draw the ale, bring it out, tnd put it on the stairs, close to the bar-door—Hester had then gone up-stairs, and Smith I did not see—I saw Hobbs put something in hii pocket, I could not see what—I afterwards went into the tap-room, where Hobbs and Smith were, and saw a bottle of soda-water protruding from Hobbs's pocket, and I saw Smith drop some ginger-beer on the floor directly we went in—I took Hobbs.

Cross-examined. Q. Hester did not come down again till after you were in the tap-room? A/. No; Hobbs was in the act of drawing the ale when he went up—I found nothing on Smith, and 3s. 6d. on Hester—none of that was marked.


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-76
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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76. WILLIAM PHILLIPS , stealing 3 watches, value 20l; also, 1 watch, value 30s.; the goods of William Payne, his master: to which he pleaded

GUILTY. Aged 16.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor; he received an excellent character, and a witness offered to employ

him.— Confined Four Months

OLD COURT.—Friday, November 29th, 1850.

PRESENT—Mr. Baron ALDERSON; Mr. Baron MARTIN; Mr. Ald.


Before Mr. Baron Martin, and the Third Jury.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-77
VerdictsNot Guilty > unknown; Not Guilty > no evidence

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77. GEORGE HARCOURT , feloniously forging and uttering a receipt for the payment of 101l. 3s.; with intent to defraud the White-haven and Furness Junction Railway Company.

MESSRS. CLARKSON and PARNELL conducted the Prosecution.

GEORGE KNOX . I am secretary of the Whitehaven and Furness Railway Company. I produce two letters, dated 20th and 22nd June, which I found among the papers of the Company—I also produce the cash-book of the Company—there is no entry in it of a payment of 100l. by Mr. Thomas Simpson, about 22nd or 23rd June—in June there was a call of 2l. per share in the course of payment by the shareholders—I was not in the Company's service at that time, and know nothing of it, except from the books—I have examined the books.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Since you have been in the office who has kept the cash-book? A. Mr. Bailey, the accountant—he makes up the cash-book from the banker's book—these entries merely represent the entries that are returned from the bankers—this 100l. has

been included in an account sent to Mr. Meyer, the late secretary—that account was sent on 11th Sept. last—the prisoner was given into custody about three weeks after that—all communications with reference to money would be made to the secretary, and he might either answer it himself, or direct his clerk to do so—I can only tell the way in which the prisoner's salary was paid from what I find in the books—I believe the entries in the books connected with the prisoner's salary are in Mr. Meyer's writing, but I cannot speak to his handwriting, never having seen it—I pay the salaries of the other clerks—I have never sent a clerk to change a note at the Bank of England.

JOHN RAND . On 20th June last year I was clerk to Mr. Thomas Simpson. On that day, by Mr. Simpson's direction, I enclosed half a 100l.-note to the secretary of the Whitehaven and Furness Railway Company in this letter—on 22nd June this letter, acknowledging its receipt, came to our counting-house—on that same day I enclosed the other half of the 100l.-note—the number of the note was 93304, dated 18th Jan., 1849—next day I received this acknowledgment for it, enclosing this receipt—(The letters were here read, the first one acknowledging the receipt of the first half of the note was signed "John Meyer" and the second by George Harcourt for John Meyer.)

JOHN COOTE STIRKE . I am a clerk in the London Joint-Stock Bank—Mr. William Shadbolt is a Director and Shareholder—this receipt is not in my handwriting, or in the writing of any one who was in the bank in 1849—the 101l. 3s. mentioned in this receipt (looking at it) never came into the bank—I cannot say whether the 100l.-note did—it did not come on account of that receipt.

Cross-examined. Q. Who were the clers Who would have been entitled to take the money and give this receipt in 1849? A. The cashiers—they were at that time myself, Mr. Boore, Mr. Gibbons, Mr. Legg, Mr. Rackstraw, Mr. Allington, and Mr. Stoke—I speak positively to this receipt being in neither of their handwritings—I have not our books here—I have searched the books in which this entry ought to appear—there are several entries about that time of cash received on account of the Whitehaven and Furness Railway Company, including as large sums as this, and possibly larger—Meyer had a private account with us.

COURT. Q. This would be attached to the call-ledger, and torn off from it I suppose? A. Yes, and returned to whoever paid.

WILLIAM BAILEY . I am an accountant, in the employment of the Whitehaven and Furness Junction Railway Company, and was so for about three weeks while the prisoner was there—during that time I had an opportunity on one particular occasion of seeing him write—I am decidedly of opinion that this letter of 21st June, 1849, is writing, except the signature, "John Meyer"—this letter of 23rd June, signed "George Harcourt," is the same writing—the filling-up of this receipt is decidedly in his writing—I have been through the cash-book—I find no entry in June, 1849, of the receipt of this 101l. 3s.

Cross-examined. Q. To what amount was Meyer a defaulter? A. That I cannot tell; up to a certain period there is between 700l. and 800l. deficient, and I have still to wander in the mazes of deficiency—Meyer ought to have had the control of these matters; I do not know anything to the contrary; I have not been sufficiently long with the

Company to know that—I do not know that Meyer is related to any of the directors—there is a gentleman named Till a director—he is the managing director.

RICHARD ADEY BAILEY . I am a clerk in the Accountant's-office at the Bank of England. I produce a 100l.-note, No. 93304, dated 18th Jan., 1849—it bears on it the name of "G. Harcourt, 1, Guildhall Chambers," and was paid into the Bank on 23rd Jane, 1849—in exchange for it was given a 50l.-note, No. 4653, dated 6th June, 1849; a 40l.-note, No. 85378, dated 7th Feb., 1849; and two 5l.-notes, Nos. 36896 and 36897, dated 12th May, 1849—that 50l.-note was paid in again on 11th July, 1849, and has on it "G. Harcourt, 1, Guildhall Chambers"—for that three 10l.-notes were given, Nos. 58269, 58270, and 58271, dated 10th May, 1849; and four 5l.-notes, Nos. 52961, 52962, 52963, and 52964, dated 13th June, 1849—the 40l.-note was paid in on 30th June, 1849, and is indorsed, "J. Taylor." or "Naylor, Stock Exchange" —the 5l.-note, No. 36896, was paid in on 6th July, 1849, by the London Joint-Stock Bank; and the 5l.-note, 36897, was paid in on 28th June, 1849, by the Union Bank, in a total—the 5l.-note, 52962, one of those given for the 50l.-note, was paid in on 11th Aug., 1849; and No. 59963, on 17th Aug., 1849, by Messrs. Glyn—the 10l.-note, No. 58270, was paid in on 13th Aug., 1849, and bears the name of "G. Harcourt, I, Guildhall Chambers"—the 10l.-note, No. 58271, was paid in on 16th Aug., 1849, by the Union Bank, and has on it, "W. H. Smith."

Cross-examined. Q. Can you tell me whether the 10l.-note, No. 58270, was paid in through a bank? A. It was paid in across the counter; the name that is on it is the name that was given by the party to whom the change was given, in accordance with the custom of the Bank.

WILLIAM BAILEY re-examined. I believe the indorsement on this 100l.-note to be the prisoner's writing—that on the 50l.-note I am rather doubtful about—it is something of the character of his writing—that on the 10l.-note, No. 58270, is his.

ROBERT HENRY KNIGHT . I an a clerk, in the employ of Messrs. Roy, the solicitor to the Whitehaven and Furness Junction Railway Company; I have very often had opportunities of seeing the prisoner's writing—I believe the name of "G. Harcourt, I, Guildhall Chambers," on the back of this 100l.-note, also, the name of "G. Harcourt, 1, Guildhall Chambers," on this 50l.-note, to be the prisoner's writing; and the name "G. Harcourt, 1, Guildhall Chambers, Basingall-street," on this 10l.-note, also—all the entries in this cash-book, are in his handwriting.

Cross-examined. Q. It was you I spoke to on the last trial about a minute-book that was taken to Edinburgh, was it not? A. Yes; I believe that minute-book is still in possession of the Company—I have not got it—I do not know whether it is here or not—I have seen Mr. William Roy here this morning.

WILLIAM HENRY SMITH . I am a surgeon, and live at Clapham-rise. I have attended the prisoner for some years—I attended him while he was lodging at Mr. Naylor's, in Union-road—in Aug., 1849, he was indebted to me for professional services—on the morning of 15th Aug. he gave me a 10l.-note—I paid an account of 27l. 19s. 8d. to my brother-in-law, Mr. Driver, of which that 10l.-note was part.

Cross-examined. Q. You have known the prisoner for a long time?

A. Yes, for thirteen or fourteen years—I have attended his brothers as well as himself—I have heard that his father has retired from the East India Company's service—the prisoner has always borne a most upright and honourable character.

SAMUEL NEALE DRIVER . I am a solicitor, in Birchin-lane. In Aug. last I received a sum of 27l. 19s. 8d. from Mr. Smith, to pay a bill—I paid that money to Mr. Pooley.

JOSEPH THOMAS POOLEY . I am collector to the Mercers' Company. In Aug. last, in consequence of a request from a Mr. Ovey, I presented a bill of exchange at Mr. Driver's, and was paid by him 27l. 19s. 8d.—I believe it was on account of Mr. Smith—I paid that sum into the Union Bank to Mr. Ovey's account—this 10l.-note, No. 58271, has my writing on it, which enables me to say it formed part of that 27l. 19s. 8d.

CHARLES COWNEY . I keep the Dr. Butler's Head Tavern. I believe the prisoner was in the habit of dining at my house—the name of "Har-court" on this 5l.-note, No. 52962, is my writing—I did not change that note personally for the prisoner; I believe I put his name on it in consequence of what Grimley, my waiter, told me—I cannot recognise the writing on this note, No. 52963, to be Mrs. Cowney's.

Cross-examined. Q. When was it you suppose you took that 5l.-note; have you any date? A. No.

THOMAS GRIMLEY . I am a waiter, in the service of Mr. Cowney. The prisoner was in the habit of dining there in 1848 and 1849—I have been in the habit from time to time, of giving him change for notes—I believe I gave him change for this No. 52963, and also for this No. 36897.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you know that from any recollection of the circumstance, or merely from seeing that you have put the name of Harcourt on the back of it? A. I have changed several notes for Mr. Harcourt—he has frequently called from the counting-house for change for his employer, and he has likewise changed notes for himself—I cannot say for what purpose these particular notes were changed; I put Mr. Harcourt's name on them all—if he had been sent by Mr. Meyer I should have put Mr. Harcourt's name.

(Joseph Naylor being called on his subpoena, did not appear.)

NOAH COLLIER . I am clerk to Mr. Frost, a meat-salesman of New-gate-market. I received this 5l.-note, No. 36896, from Mr. Charles Cowney.

ALEXANDER ROB WILSON . I am in the service of Mr. Thomas Simpson, of Manchester. On 19th Dec. 1848, I addressed this letter (produced) to the secretary of the Whitehaven and Furness Junction Railway Company, and enclosed within it the first half of a Bank of England note for 50l., No. 93331, dated 23rd Feb. 1848—(the letter was here read)—I received this acknowledgment from Mr. Meyer in due course of post—( this was dated 20th Dec. 1848, and was signed "JohnMeyer, secretary")—on the same day I sent up the other half of the note in this letter (read)—and on 23rd Dec. I received this letter enclosing the receipt.

WILLIAM BAILEY re-examined. I believe this letter to be the prisoner's writing, and likewise the body of this receipt—(this letter acknowledged the reception of the second half of the note, and was signed John Meyer, sercetary; p.p., George Harcourt.)

JOHN COOTE STIRKE re-examined. This receipt does not bear the

signature of any person in our house; nor has the money ever come into our hands—(the receipt was dated 22nd Dec. 1848, for 50l., and bore a signature which could not be read.)

WILLIAM BAILEY re-examined. I have examined the cash-book, about 22nd Dec. 1848—I do not find any entry of a sum of 50l. remitted by Mr. Wilson on behalf of Mr. Thomas Simpson on 21st Dec.—the cash-book is throughout in the prisoner's hand-writing.

RICHARD ADEY BAILEY re-examined. I produce a 50l.-note, No. 93,391, dated 23rd Feb. 1848—it was paid in over the counter on 22nd Dec. 1848, and bears on it "J Meyer, 1, Guildhall Chambers, Basinghall-street"—in change for it were given two 10l.-notes, Nos. 64510 and 11, dated 4th Nov. 1848; and six fives, Nos. 27972-3-4-5-6 and 7, dated 2nd Nov. 1848—the 10l.-note, No. 64510, came in next day, 23rd Dec over the counter; it has on it "G. Harcourt"—No. 64511, came in on 1st Feb. 1849, from the Excise—the 5l.-note, No. 27973, came in on 19th Jan. 1849, and No. 27977, on 16th Jan. 1849.

ROBERT HENRY KNIGHT re-examined The endorsement, "J. Meyer," on this 50l.-note is in the prisoner's writing, decidedly not in Meyers'.

JOSEPH PENFOLD . In Jan. 1849, I was living at the house of Mrs. Ward, of Stockwell-place, Stockwell—the prisoner was living there at that time—this 10l.-note, No. 64511, has my name on it—I got it changed for Mr. Harcourt, at Mr. Wardle's public-house.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you change it at Harcourt's request? A. Yes—I cannot recollect the date.

CHARLES COWNEY re-examined. This 10l.-note, No. 64510, bears the indorsement, "George Harcourt, 1, Guildhall Chambers"—I cannot tell whose writing that is—I see the letters "DBH;" I do not know whose writing that is—I do not think it is Grimley's—they are the initials of the house, "Dr. Butler's Head"—this 5l.-note, No. 27973, also bears those initials, but I cannot tell whose writing they are.

THOMAS GRIMLEY re-examined. This 5l.-note, No. 27973, I believe bears my endorsement—I received that note from Mr. Harcourt—this on the 10l.-note, No. 64510, is not my writing; I do not know whose it is.

WILLIAM HENRY SMITH re-examined. On 23rd Dec. 1848, the prisoner paid me a 5l.-note—I cannot say whether this is it No. 27927—I do not recollect to whom I paid the note I received.


(The prisoner was also given in charge upon five other indictments of a similar nature, upon which MR. CLARKSON offering no evidence, a verdict of NOT GUILTY was taken.)

Before Mr. Baron Alderson.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-78
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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78. WILLIAM COE , the younger, was charged on the Coroner's Inquisition only with feloniously killing and slaying William John Luck.

MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.

JAMES READ . I live at Greenwich. I knew William John Luck—he was a labourer in the employ of Mr. Graves—I was in a boat with him, and three more; they were all drowned but me—Luck and Mills were rowing—the boat would carry us well—we were about Limehouse, coming up towards London—I saw two steamboats coming down the river—the Prussian Eagle and the Duke of Cambridge—the tide was with us—the Prussian Eagle passed us first: we got into the swell of it, and the boat

became unmanageable—I do not know that anybody on the Duke of Cambridge called out—I did not hear it—I was rather frightened—while the swell was going on, the Duke of Cambridge came upon us—the bows caught our boat—I caught hold of the paddle-wheel—it was going round with me—it stopped while I was in it, and I was taken out—I am twelve years old.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did you see how long before your boat came up to the Duke of Cambridge she stopped her engines? A. I did not notice whether she stopped them or not, till I was in the wheel—two of the men in the boat got up, and tried to push away from the bow of the Duke of Cambridge—the people in the boat seemed to know what they were about, and to understand how to manage the boat—I did not notice whether they stopped rowing—there was one sitting before me—there were three of us taken out of the wheel—I was examined at Rotherhithe, and the jury found that it was accidental death.

WILLIAM TERRY . I am a lighterman, of Horsleydown. On 17th Oct., about a quarter before ten o'clock in the morning, I was at the lower part of the Pool near the City Canal Tier, and saw the Prussian Eagle coming—she is an Irish boat—about ten minutes afterwards, the Duke of Cambridge came up—they were both going up with the tide, and were about three times the length of a steamer apart—the little boat was lower down the river—the Prussian Eagle bad passed, and kicked up a surf, and the boat became unmanageable—there were no freemen in her, and the men were frightened—if there had been a good look out on the steamer, and they had stopped her in time, she would not have gone over the boat—if she had been backed, it would have prevented the accident—she eased directly she touched the boat, but not before—a man forewards on the steam-boat looked out, and sung out " hoy, hoy!"—I was in my barge—the boat was in its proper position with regard to the navigation of the river.

Cross-examined. Q. How far was the boat from the Duke of Cambridge when you first saw her? A. About four boats' lengths off—the people in the boat were not trying to row between the two vessels—they did not know on which side to go—they were frightened, and seemed to have lost their heads—they might have gone inside, and out of the surf if they had understood it, but they went into danger—it was their own fault, and want of understanding that led to the accident—I should have got out of the way without any trouble.


Before Mr. Baron Martin.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-79
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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79. WILLIAM KING , feloniously forging and uttering an order for payment of 20l. 12s., with intent to defraud Richard Martineux and others.

MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

MR. RICHARD MARTINEUX . I am one of the partners in the house of Whitbread and Co.—there are nine partners. On Saturday, 1st Oct., about noon, I received these papers (produced) in an envelope directed "Messrs, Whitbread and Co."—we have a customer named Hugh Hughes—he keeps the Ship and Anchor, Camden-town—I entertained some doubt about the note, and the boy who I found had brought it, was given in charge of the police—he made a statement to me—I do not know Robert Malcolm.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. One of your clerks brought it to you? A. Yes; that was five minutes before the boy was brought to me.

HENRY RIDLEY . I am twelve years old, and live at 14, Windsor-ter-race, City-road. On 5th Oct., I was going on an errand for my mother, and met the prisoner at the corner of Chiswell-street—he said, "My little man, will you run with this to Whitbreads', I will give you 2d."—I said, "What, sir?" on getting over to the other side of the way with him he brought a letter out of his pocket—this is it (produeed)—he said, if they asked me where it came from I was to say "From Mr. Hugh Hughes, of Camden-town"—he gave me the letter—I was to come back to him at the same places—T took it to Whitbreads' counting-house—the clerk took it of me, in a few minutes Mr. Martineux came and put some questions to me—I gave him an account of how I got it—they took me to the station, and to the police-court—I was remanded to prison, and afterwards let out on bail on Monday morning—this happened on Saturday at twelve o'clock, or a little before—I had never seen the prisoner before—I saw him again about a month afterwards at Baggnige-wells police-court in one of cells—I knew him, and have no doubt he is the man.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Did the policeman take you there to see him? A. No; one of the officers of the Court—he told me the man had been found, and I was to go and look at him.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. What passed between you and the officer? A. He said, "Do you think you should know him?"—I said, "I think I should"—he said, "Well, come and see," or, "Come and see him"—I think it was "Come and see him"—he took me into the cell, and said, "Is this the man?"—I was sure he was the man—there was man and a lad a little bigger than me there—the man was taller than the prisoner—the prisoner's dress was different to what he had before—his whiskers were the sane.

CHARLES JAMES TAPP . I am one of the clerks in the London and Westminster Bank—I have looked at this check—Robert Malcolm does not keep an account there.

Cross-examined. Q. You know all the parties that bank there? A. Yes.

HUGH HUGHES . I am landlord of the Hope aad Anchor, Camden-road, St. Paneras. This check is not my writing, or that of any person authorized by me; I know nothing about it—I did not send to Whitbreads' for three kilderkins of stout, or for change for this check—I saw the prisoner a week before, in my parlour; he has been there several times, that is all I know of him—I know no one named Malcolm.

HENRY STREET . I keep the Elephant and Castle, King's-road, St. Pancras; that is the only Elephant and Castle I know in Camden-town. I know nothing about this check on Mr. Malcolm—I know Mr. Hughes—my house is just round the corner from the Hope and Anchor.

JOHN HARVEY (policeman, G. 14) I received this letter containing the check from Mr. Martineux on 5th Oct.—(Letter read—"Oct. 5, 1850. Messrs. Whitbread will much oblige Mr. Hughes by giving hearer cash for the enclosed check; it will save the lad going to the city; also by having ready by three o'clock this afternoons three kilderkins of very best stout, when one of Pickford's men will call for it. Direct the casks to E. W. Harriss, Esq., Whetstone, near Barnet") (Check read—Oct. 4, 1850, London and Westminster Bank, pay Hugh Hughes, or bearer, 20l. 12s., Robert Malcolm." Endorsed "H. Hughes.")

( Samuel Phillips, scale-maker, of Vine-street, Hatton-wall; Valentine Bunter, butcher, of 14, Lumber-court; Thomas Hemmings, undertaker, of John-street, Tottenham-court-road; William Ford, artist in cameos, of Woodbridge-street, Clerkenwell; and Robert Glennister, engraver, of 23, William-street, Regent's-park, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 26.— Transported for Fifteen Years.

(There were two other indictments against the prisoner of a precisely similar nature.)

Before Mr. Baron Martin.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-80
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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80. THOMAS SALT , feloniously cutting and wounding Jeremiah Spillan on the face, &c.; with intent to disfigure him.

MR. BRIARLY conducted the Prosecution.

JEREMIAH SPILLAN . I am a labourer, and live in Spring-garden, Mile-end Old-town. On the night of 5th Nov., there was a lot of us there, and there was a little row between us about Guy Fawkes—the prisoner asked what was the meaning of it, and we said we did not know anything about it—on 6th Nov., about seven o'clock in the evening, I was in my own room, and heard a noise of persons talking in the court—I went out, and the prisoner asked me did I belong to the party last night—I said, "What party?"—he replied, "Oh, I beg your pardon, you are not," and turned away—on that my boy, who is about fifteen or sixteen years old, came out of doors—the prisoner turned about and said, "There is one of them"—he had a knife under his jacket, and he made a stab at the boy, but he drew back and escaped—I then laid bold of the prisoner by the shoulders and neck, and he worked at me about the head and face with the knife—we struggled together—he gave me several wounds in the face with the knife, one on the left hand, and one in the left thigh—m smallclothes are cut through—I had five wounds altogether; I bled down into my shoes—we struggled for a bit, and it happened that I got him down on his face and hands on the flag-stones of the court—I cried out "Murder!"—he got up in spite of me—I laid hold of the knife, and took it from him, and then he broke off and went into his own house—his wife was there, and she and my boy attacked one another and another woman—I sent for a policeman, and had the prisoner taken—I went to the hospital, and had my wounds dressed.

Cross-examined by MR. WOOLLETT. Q. Who do you work for? A. I was with Mr. Bird, of Globe-road, for eight days—I am not in any employ now—I get odd jobs—I had no row with the prisoner on 5th Nov.—there was a row, and he broke the windows with bricks—I am a Catholic; I do not know what the prisoner is—he told me he was not a Protestant, but an Irishman and a Roman Catholic—we were disputing about who had their prayers best—he said he would lay a penny I had not my prayers, and I told him to put the money down—it did not come to a fight; he struck me—my son had given the prisoner no provocation on the 6th—there were three men and a boy outside before I went out—I cannot say whether there are a great many rows in our court—I very seldom take a drop of gin; I do not get the chance; my temper is no worse if I do; it may be better.

MR. BRIARLY. Q. Who struck the first blow? A. The prisoner.

DANIEL SPILLAN . I am the prosecutor's son, and am sixteen years

old. On Wednesday evening, 6th Nov., about seven o'clock, I was at home, and heard the prisoner speaking outside in the court—I went down after my father—he asked my father if he was one of the party that lived in that house, and then he made himself an answer, and begged his pardon, he was not—as I was coming out of doors, he said, "Here is one;" and he made a blow at me with a knife—I stepped back, and escaped—my father took hold of him to stop the blow, and he turned at my father, and struck at him with the hand; the knife was in it—it cut him, and I saw him bleeding from the head and face afterwards—I was not hit—I laid hold of the knife, but could not get it from him; my father did—I got a little bit of skin cut off my thumb, but nothing of any consequence.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you not a stick? A. Yes, I had; it was a large one: it was given to me by somebody out of doors, I do not know who; I made use of it—I struck the prisoner, to assist my father—I cannot say whether my mother had a brick in her hand; my father had no poker—there was no poker at that battle—I have seen a good many rows in the court—I did not break the stick in using it; somebody took it away—I cannot say whether it was broken—there were a good many people there—the prisoner did not appear to be injured.

JOHN CRAWLEY . I live in Spring-gardens, in the same court as the prosecutor and prisoner. I am a labourer—on the evening of 6th Nov. I was coming from my door, up the court, and saw the prisoner coming from his own door—he asked me was I one of the party last night—I said, "No"—he said, "Oh. I beg your pardon, you were not"—Spillan then came out of his door, there were a few words between them, and then Spillan's son came out—the prisoner had a knife in his hand, and he attempted to stick young Spillan with it; he escaped, and Spillan caught the prisoner round the neck, I suppose to save his son; and then when I saw the knife going to work, I went back—I heard Spillan cry out, "Murder!" that he was stuck with the knife, and I saw his face and clothes all over blood.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you know that the prisoner is a Protestant? A. I do not know whether he is or not—I never saw him till that night—I did not see Mrs. Spillan with a brick, or young Spillan with a stick, nor any poker in old Spillan's hand—there was not much of a battle—there was no one there but the prisoner, the Spillans, me, and another man.

SAMUEL DAMEREL (policeman, H 140). I was called to Spring-gardens, and found the prosecutor bleeding from the face—I went to the prisoner's house, No. 7, and charged him with cutting and wounding Spillan—he said he had done no such thing, that he had been knocked about the head with a stick by the prosecutor's son, and he had witnesses to prove it, at the same time pointing to the stick which he had by the fire-side—I received this knife (produced) from Spillan—there were some clots of blood on the top of it.

Cross-examined. Q. There are a great many rows in this court, are there not? A. I believe there are—the prisoner had a cut over his eye, and a small cut on the head—he said he had not used the knife—he said the quarrel arose out of a discussion about religion—he did not say he was a Protestant.

JOHN MOUNTFORD . I am a surgeon. On 6th Nov. Spillan was brought to the London Hospital, where I was the house-surgeon—he had five or six small wounds on his face, one on his hand, and one on his thigh, a mere skin-wound—two of those on the face were rather deep, but of no great magnitude—he lost a good deal of blood, the parts being very vascular—such a knife as this would cause the wounds—they were very slight.

GUILTY of an assault. Aged 49.— Confined Three Months.

NEW COURT.—Friday, November 29th, 1850.



Before Mr. Recorder.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-81
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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GUILTY . Aged 27.— Transported for Seven Years.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-82
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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82. JOHN WILSON , stealing 1 pair of trowsers, value 15s.; the goods of Thomas Corderay Hodgetts: 1 pair of trowsers, 15s.; the goods of Archibald William Pringle: 1 coat and 1 pair of trowsers, 4l.; the goods of William Ebenezer Barker: 1 pair of trowsers, 10s.; the goods of Frederick William Smith: 1 coat and 2 handkerchiefs, 2l s.; the goods of Augustus Paul Hepburn: 1 coat, 25s.; the goods of William Hughes in the dwelling-house of Nathaniel Jennings: to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Six Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-83
VerdictGuilty > pleaded part guilty; Guilty > pleaded part guilty

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83. JAMES ELLIS and JAMES HOOPER , stealing 1 coat, and other articles, value 5l. 12s.; the goods of William Hooper, in the dwelling-house of John Hooper.—2nd COUNT, receiving the said goods: having both been before convicted.

ELLIS pleaded GUILTY to Receiving. * Aged 19.

HOOPER pleaded GUILTY to Stealing. *Aged 19.

Confined Twelve


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-84
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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84. WILLIAM HICKS , burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Peter Thorn, with intent to steal.

MR. W. J. PAYNE conducted the Prosecution.

PETER THORN . I live at 98, New Bond-street, in the parish of St. George, Hanover-square. On Saturday night, 26th Oct., I left home at half-past eight o'clock—I returned about twenty minutes past two, on the Sunday morning—I went in-doors, with a latch-key, and went up-stairs, to the first-floor landing—there was a light burning, which if usually left for me—on opening the drawing-room door, as I usually do if I am out late, and looking in, I heard something fall on my second-floor, which is over the drawing-room—I immediately called out for my servant, to know if it was her—I had no answer—I then rang the up-stairs bell, and called out, "Thieves! there is a thief in the house!"—I then opened

the bedroom door on the first-floor, and immediately heard somebody Walk across my room up-stairs—I then went down to the street door, unbolted and opened it, calling, "Police!"—I kept the door open, and returned four or five steps up-stairs, so that I could see across the staircase, and I immediately saw the prisoner running down from the second-floor to the first-floor—I ran down very fast, thinking he was coming to the door—I shut the door, and kept it shut, calling out, "Police!"—I fancied there were two or three persons in the house by the noise, but I only saw one person—I remained outside the door, calling, "Police!"—the policemen came up, and we went into the house, with my latch-key—there was only my female servant in the house, and her sitter, who had come on a visit to her—when I went into the house with the policemen, I examined the premises—I found the landing window had evidently been opened just before—there was a little catch at the side of the window, and that was up, and the window was a little open—a person inside could lift the little catch up, but not outside—the window looks out on the leads at the back premises, and goes over to a large table-yard which leads into Blenheim-street—a person from that yard can get to Woodstock-street; they adjoin—I then told two policemen to run round the corner, thinking that was the only chance the persons had of escape—the prisoner was then gone—he was brought back shortly after, in custody of the police.

COURT. Q. Are you sure he is the person you saw in the house? A. Quite sure—when I saw him in the house the light that I spoke of shone in his face, it was just below him—I did not go so high as the window on the landing when I first went up—a person from that; window could get on the leads, it is level; and from there to Blenheim-street—there was no sign of breaking on that window; but there was another window, about six feet below that, where they could have got in, which was not fastened—that opens on the leads, on a sort of skylight—it leads to the bedroom on the first-floor—I believe that had no fastening—I had not been in that bedroom that evening before I went out—I cannot tell whether the window was open.

Prisoner. When the policeman brought me round, you said you did not know me, and they placed me on the stairs, and you said you thought I was the man. Witness. No, I said you were the man—you had had your coat turned up on the neck, and the policeman took you on the stairs, and then I was quite sure it was you, but I said at the door that you were the man.

JEMIMA CHEESEMAN . I am servant to Mr. Thorn, and sleep at the top of the house. On that Sunday morning I was awoke, and went downstairs, about half-past two o'clock—I saw the prisoner in custody—I had noticed the window on the staircase on the Friday—it was then fastened by two catches, which hang down one on each side of the sash—that window had not been opened on the Saturday—it was still fattened—the bedroom window just below that, is a sash-window, and has no fastening—any one could get in at that window from the yard at the back.

COURT. Q You did not find that window open? A. No; I had seen it about seven o'clock on the Saturday evening—it was then shut down—there was no pane broken, or anything of that sort in any part—my sister slept with me—I never saw the prisoner before—a person could open the bedroom window from the outside.

WILLIAM BUNDEY (policeman, C 166). On Sunday morning, 27th Oct., I heard a cry of "Police!" in New Bond-street—I ran to the spot, and saw the prosecutor; he said there were thieves in the house—several more constables heard the cry of "Police!" and they went to the spot—two of the constables went into the house; I stood at the door—I then ran round to Blenheim-street, leading to Woodstock-street—that is at the back of the premises—just before I got to Woodstock-street, in Blenheim-street, the prisoner came out of Mr. Freeman's stable-yard, which is at the back of Mr. Thorn's house—you can get to that yard from the back of Mr. Thorn's, and from several other houses in New Bond-street—the prisoner ran, and I pursued him, calling "Stop thief!"—he turned out of Woodstock-street into Oxford-street, and from there to South Moulton-street—when he got about thirty yards down South Moulton-street, a brother constable, of the D division, stopped him—I heard something fall on the pavement, and I saw my brother constable pick up a dark lantern—a box of matches fell into an area, they were burning: another constable got over and picked them up—I did not hear the prisoner say anything.

COURT. Q. Had you ever lost sight of the man? A. No, only just as be turned the corner—I am sure he is the same man that I saw come out of Freeman's yard—he was taken back—I walked by the side of him.

CHARLES PIKE ( policeman, D 255). I was on duty in Oxford-street on that Sunday morning—I saw the prisoner running on the opposite side, between Woodstock-street and South Moulton-street—he turned down South Moulton-street—I ran across and followed him—I overtook him about thirty yards down the street—I took him by the collar—he took this lantern out of his pocket and threw it against the area—it knocked against the rails and fell on the pavement—he threw a box of matches into the area, and they lighted—when I took the prisoner he said, "I suppose I am lagged now, but you will find nothing on me"—I took him back to the prosecutor's house—he saw him at the door, and said, "That is the man"—I afterwards put the prisoner on the stair-case—the prosecutor still said he was the same man—I saw the window on the staircase; that could not be opened outside—I did not examine any other window—a person might have got into the house with a latch-key.

GUIITY . Aged 20.— Transported for Seven Years.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-85
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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85. ROBERT WENT , stealing 1 pawnbroker's duplicate, value 1/4 d., and 5 sovereigns; the property of Charles Sayer, his master.

CHARLES SAYER . I am a coachman, in the service of Major Armand—I have a lodging over my master's stable, in Upper Brook's-mews, West-bourne-terrace—I have known the prisoner some time, he was out of a situation, and I employed him to help me—I had a watch in pawn for four guineas, and on 21st Oct. I sent the prisoner to get it out of pawn—I gave him five sovereigns and the duplicate of the watch—it was at a shop opposite St. James's Church, in Piccadilly—he took the ticket and the money—I did not see him till the Wednesday when he was taken—he did not bring me the watch or the money.

Prisoner. He gave the money and the ticket into my hand, and I am charged with stealing it; I was not in his service—I was receiving no pay; I was merely staying with him when I was out of a situation.

Witness. I did not employ him, he was in distress, and I took him in—what he did for me I gave him his board and lodging for—he was out of work, and he told me he had not been in a bed for two or three nights—I have known him two or three years—I never knew anything against him.

JOHN STANTON (policeman, A 353). On 23rd Oct. I was called into the George and Dragon coffee-shop, Marylebone-lane, by the landlord, who knew that the prisoner was wanted—I took him into custody—told him he was the man that had the 5l. and the duplicate to get the watch out of pawn—he said, "I am, and a pretty job I have made of it"—as we were going to the station he said he had got drunk and had lost the money and the ticket also.

(The prisoner in his defence stated that he became intoxicated, and lost the duplicate and money, but that he intended to make the loss good to the prosecutor.)

GUILTY. Aged 36.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor.

Confined Four Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-86
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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86. ROBERT WILSON , stealing 1 cwt. of fat, value 29s.; the goods of James Patteskall Jones: having been before convicted.

MR. CROUCH conducted the Prosecution.

JAMES MARMAN . I am a carman, in the service of Mr. James Patteshall Jones. On Friday night last, at a quarter-past seven o'clock, I was unloading some sacks of fat, at Mr. Jones's, in Fenchurch-street—l went inside with one sack—when I returned to the cart again I missed a sack out of my cart, containing 1 cwt. of fat, belonging to Mr. Jones—a gentleman passing by spoke to me, and I followed a cart going in the direction of London-bridge—the prisoner was driving it, and them was another man in it—I came up with it near Mark-lane—previous to my getting to it I saw the prisoner, assisted by the other man, roll the sack of fat out of the cart—I made my way to the horse's head as soon as possible; the prisoner and the other man got out at the back of the cart and ran away—I called stop thief!—there was an officer close by—the sack was left in the street, and I and the officer put it back in the cart.

Cross-examined by MR. WOOLLETT. Q. How long have you been in Mr. Jones's service? A. About eleven months—I can speak positively to the features of the prisoner—I saw his face as be jumped out of the cart—there were several persons about—it is at times a crowded street.

GEORGE HIKE . ( City-policeman., 516) About a quarter-past seven o'clock last Friday evening I saw Marman running—I ran after the prisoner—I ran past the horse and cart, and saw Marman lay hold of the reins—the moment he did that, the prisoner, who was in the cart, jumped out and ran away—I ran and came up with him at the corner of Billiter-street—he was then in custody of another officer—I saw the bag of fat in the street.

Cross-examined. Q. How near were you to the cart when you first saw the prisoner? A. About four or five yards from the horse's head—I did not lose sight of the prisoner—there was not a crowd—it was a very wet night and few persons about—he was taken about twenty yards from the cart——there were several persons there—I had called "stop thief!"—I am quite certain the prisoner is the man—I took charge of the cart, and took it to the greenyard—it had a name on it, bottom upwards.

GEORGE SCOTT (City policeman,560). I was on duty in Fenchurch-street, I heard a cry of "stop thief!" and ran in that direction—I saw a cart going along, and saw a sack of fat drop from it—the moment it was out the prisoner jumped out of the cart—he had a whip in his hand—I ran and took him—he held up the butt-end of the whip to strike me, but a gentleman came up and prevented him.

Prisoner. I wish to withdraw my plea, and plead Guilty.

(He also admitted that he had been previously convicted.)

GUILTY .— Confined Twelve Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-87
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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87. MARGARET MCCARTHY , stealing 2 cloaks, value 7s.; the goods of John Edward Needes: having been before convicted.

JAMES LAWRENCE . I get my living by sticking up bills in the streets—I live in Dudley-street, Soho. On the evening of the 29th Oct. I was going into the shop of Mr. Needes, a pawnbroker, in Old Compton-street—I saw the prisoner standing outside—I saw her take down a victorine and two cloaks from inside the door—she folded them up and put them under her arm, and walked away with them—I went and told Mr. Needes and then followed the prisoner—she went to Dudley-street, and into a woman's clothes shop about 300 yards off, and tried to sell them—she came out—I went into a beer-shop which was near, and a young man went for a policeman and took her.

Prisoner. Q. Did you not see me at the public-house door with James Kelly? A. You and your sister were together—I did not see any man with garden-pots to sell—I go by the name of Kelly—I was not in company with any other person.

ALFRED TAYLOR . I am assistant to Mr. John Edward Needes, a pawn-broker, in Old Compton-street—I hang out the goods in the shop—these cloaks are my master's—they were about eighteen inches inside the shop-door—they could be reached by a person stepping on the first step—they are worth seven shillings—I went with the prisoner to the station—as we were going she said, "Now you have got your property, what more do you want?"—she said, "I took them, and that is enough."

JAMES ROSS (policeman,. F 38) I took the prisoner, and found this largest cloak on her, and this small one on a young girl, who was in company with her—as we were going to the station the prisoner said, "Now, you b——r, you have got me to rights, I suppose you are going to lag me.

Prisoner's Defence. I bought them of a man and woman, for half-a-crown. I was in the public-house for about an hour afterwards—when I came out I had the cloak on, and was going home, and this witness said I stole them; this witness stole a pair of boots, and sold them to a woman; I have got four small children. I work hard for my living.

JAMES ROSS re-examined. I produce two certificates of the prisoner's former convictions—(read—Convicted at Guildhall, Nov. 1847—confined four months; and again at Clerkenwell, Dec, 1848; confined six months—I was present on both occasions—the prisoner is the person.

GUILTY . Aged 37.— Confined Six Months.

THIRD COURT.—Friday, November 29th, 1850.



Before Mr. Common Serjeant, and the Eighth Jury,

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-88
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment; Corporal > whipping

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88. JAMES COLLINS , embezzling 3d.; the money of Samuel Walker Taylor, his master: to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined Ten Days and Whipped.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-89
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceImprisonment; Corporal > whipping

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89. RICHARD SAVILLE , stealing 1 crown; the money of Robert George Clements, his master; to which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined One Month, and Whipped.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-90
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation
SentenceNo Punishment > sentence respited

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90. WILLIAM LEVERETT , stealing 5 catheters and 2 cases, value 35s.; the goods of Robert Daly Walker, his master: to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 27.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor.— Judgment Respited.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-91
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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91. MARIA BEAZLEY , stealing 15 yards of diaper, 52 yards of cloth, and 8 yards of cotton, value 2l. 2s. 4d.; the goods of Thomas Tarsey, her master: to which she pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined Six Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-92
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Four Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-93
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93. JOHN WILLIAMS , stealing 1 purse, value 6d., 1 half-crown, and 8s.; the property of William Tibbs, from the person of Frances Tibbs: having been before convicted.

FRANCES TIBBS . I am the wife of William Tibbs. On 4th Nov., between two and three o'clock in the afternoon, I was in Whitechapel—in consequence of a person speaking to me I missed my purse, which I had safe a quarter of an hour before; it contained a half-crown and 8s.—three persons, one of whom was the prisoner, were pointed out to me in a court not many yards off—they were dividing what appeared to be money—on the prisoner being told to give up the money, he said he had none—his hand was drawn from his pocket; a half-crown and 4s. fell on the ground, and this purse( produced) which is mine, was in his hand.

THOMAS FITZGERALD . I was in Whitechapel, and saw the three persons—I saw one of them pick Mrs. Tibbs' pocket—I am sure the prisoner is one of the three—about five minutes after I saw them in the act of dividing the money—they ran away; I caught the prisoner, and said, "You have got this lady's purse"—he said, "I have not"—his hand was in his pocket, I pulled it out, some money fell from it, and he had the purse.

WILLIAM GIFFORD (policeman,. H 155) I took the prisoner to the station, and he said "Gifford, I suppose this will be a foreign job."

Prisoner's Defence. I am not the person.

ROBERT GIFFORD . I am superintendent of the Ashford constabulary—

I produce a certificate of the prisoner's conviction at this Court—(read—Convicted May, 1848, of stealing a purse from the person, and confined one year)—I was present; the prisoner is the person—I was then in the London Police.

GUILTY .** Aged 18.— Transported for Seven Years.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-94
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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94. JOHN PENNINGTON , feloniously forging and uttering a promissory-note for the payment of 5l., with intent to defraud John Fearns.

MESSRS. RYLAND and LOCKE conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM FISHER . I live at 15, Pembroke-place, Vauxhall-road, and am the accountant and manager of the Pembroke Loan Society, which is held at the Forester's Arms, Vauxhall-bridge-road. On 2nd April I received this application (produced) for a loan of 5l. for twelve months, by John Pennington—he offered as security Mr. Fearns, of 3, Grey Coat-street, Horseferry-road—I made inquiry about Mr. Fearns, and was satisfied with his security—I called on him, but did not see him—I called three times, the two first by myself, and the third with a policeman out of uniform—after I had made the inquiry, the prisoner called, and asked if I was satisfied with Mr. Fearns' respectability—I told him yes, but I had not seen him; that if I could get an appointment with Mr. Fearns, and see him sign the promissory-note, he should have the money—I had then called twice on him—two or three days after that the prisoner called at my house, and asked if Fearns had been—I said he had not—he said he expected he would have called as he was going out of town that evening, and had promised to call on me on the way to the railway, he would go and endeavour to meet him, and send him as quickly as possible—he then left, and in about three minutes a person called, said he was Mr. Fearns, and signed the note, "James Fearns," in my presence—this is the note—(produced)—I wrote it out, and he signed it—two or three minutes after that, Pennington came and asked me if Mr. Fearns had been—I told him he had—he asked if he had signed the note; 1 said, "Yes," and he said he supposed he could have the money—I said I should have to go to the treasurer for the money, I was in a hurry then, and I should be ready for him on the following morning—he said he could not come the following morning, and pressed me to let him have it that night—I said if he could not come the following morning, he must say the morning after that—he came that morning—I had made inquiry in the interim, and told him as I had not seen Mr. Fearns at his house, it was considered necessary I should call and see him there, and ask him if he had signed the note, and he had better accompany me—he said "Very well," or something to that effect, and I went there with him—we saw Mrs. Clarke, the servant, and I asked if Mr. Fearns was there—she said, "Yes"—I asked if I could see him; she asked us into the parlour, where we both went and sat down, and she went up to Mr. Fearns with my message, that I wished to see him—I sent my name up—Mr. Fearns sent down word that he would be much obliged if I would send up my business—I then took the note from my pocket and sent it up to Mr. Fearns; I requested the servant to show it, and ask him to send word down whether it was his signature—I think I sent the form up also—she brought word back that it was not his signature; upon which the prisoner said, "If it is not Mr. Fearn's signature, he must have authorised some person to write it"—I sent another message up

to know whether he had authorised any one, and desired the servant to say what she had heard Pennington say—she brought back word that Mr. Fearns had not authorised any one to call on me, or write his name; it was not his signature, and that Mr. Pennington knew he had refused to become his security—I had the note in my hand then, and I think Pennington looked at it—I told him he could not have the money, and he asked me for the 2s. he had paid in the first instance as inquiry money—I told him he could not have it, and we separated.

Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. Did you see him between April and the time this charge was made? A. I met him in the street, but did not speak to him—I appeared against him on this change at the Mansion-house last week—I am the manager, accountant, and secretary of the Society—there are six directors, and James Henry Green, who keeps the Forester's Arms, is the treasurer—the interest on a 5l. loan for a year is five per cent., with 5s. discount from the amount—it is repaid by 2s. weekly instalments—there is also 1s. to be paid for the book and register, the cost of the stamp, and the 2s. for inquiry in the first instance—Mr. Green supplies a portion of the funds; I supply a portion, and other parties supply other portions—the whole of the body of this note is my writing—I was present when the man signed "James Fearns, 3, Grey Coat-street"—the note was ready written by me before he came I cannot say whether I took it from a number I had ready written, or whether I wrote it expecting him—the Society is not registered; It has been fourteen or fifteen months in existence—it was 8th✗ April that the note was signed, and it was the 10th when Pennington called, at about nine in the morning—my house is three-quarters of a mile from Mr. Fearns'—after the note was signed, and before the day Pennington called, I went with a policeman to Mr. Fearns—I saw Mr. Fearns—I did not tell Pennington on the 10th that I had done so—I did not ask Pennington to sign the note—I think he asked me for it, as I would not give him the money—I gave the money for the stamp, as I am in the habit of doing, and charging it afterwards—the 2s. for inquiry was never returned.

MR. RYLAND. Q. How came you to give evidence a few days ago against the prisoner? A. I had reason to believe the man who signed the note was in custody, and I went in order to recognise him—it was at the suggestion of Downing, who went with me to Mr. Fearns', that I gave evidence—I heard there was another charge—I thought it was my duty to appear—Mr. Fearns has nothing to do with the Loan Society.

JOHN FEARNS . I am a bricklayer and builder, at 3, Grey Coat street, Rochester-row, Westminster, and not Horseferry-road, that is on the other side of the water—I have a little knowledge of the prisoner; he was introduced to me in March or April by a person named Franklin—two or three weeks after that, he wished me to become security for a 5l. loan for him, it would do him good—at first I agreed to do so—he afterwards called at my place, but I did not see him; I had left a message for him—I never saw him about it again—I never communicated to him that I had changed my mind—I did not write this "James Fearns, 3, Grey Coat-street," to this note or any part of it, nor did I authorize any one to write it for me—it is not my Christian name—I did not know it was in existence till I saw it—I remember one day when I was up-stairs, a gentleman named Fisher sending his name up—I sent word I could not see him—Mrs.

Clark brought up a note to me, which I believe was this one—I sent it down again with a message—I have lived in Grey Coat-street nearly five years—there is no other Mr. Fearns, either James or John, in the street, to my knowledge.

Cross-examined. Q. When was it you agreed to become his security? A. I think in April—I was surprised at the note being signed James, because Mr. Pennington knew my name was John—I believe Pennington said it was a Loan Society he wished me to become security to, and I believe something was mentioned about 5l.—I did not know Mr. Fisher before he called on me.

MARY ANN CLARK . I am Mr. Fearns' servant. I recollect Mr. Fisher coming four or five times, but I cannot say when it was—I recollect his coming with Pennington—he asked if Mr. Fearns was at home—I told him he was, but he was ill, and he said, "Will you go up, and say I am here"—I went up, and he said, "Tell him to send up his message"—I went down, delivered that message, and Mr. Fisher took out a note similar to this one, and gave it me—I took it to Mr. Fearns, and said, "Mr. Fisher wishes to know whether that is your signature?"—he said it was not, and he would not have anything to do with it—I communicated that to Fisher and Pennington—Pennington directly said, "If it is not Mr. Fearns' signature, it is some one's he has authorized to sign for him" —Mr. Fisher asked me to go and ask if he had authorized any one to sign it—I went to Mr. Fearns—he said he had not authorized any one, he would have nothing to do with the note; I came down, and told them so—Mr. Fearns and another gentleman who was there were very angry, and the gentleman said, "You may go, and thank your lucky stars you have not put your name to it"—Pennington then left—I recollect Pennington ealling on Mr. Fearns several times—he called with Mr. Franklin—I do not think he called more than once with Mr. Fisher.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you know the third gentleman? A. No. (Note read—"London, 8th April, 1850—5l. One month after date we jointly and severally promise to pay to Mr. Henry Green, or his order for value received. James Fearns, 3, Grey Coat-street; a blank.")


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-95
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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95. ROBERT MURRAY CAMPBELL , stealing half a ream of paper, and 1 card-case, value 7s.; the goods of Thomas Edward Blucher Death.

MESSRS. RYLAND and LOCKE conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS EDWARD BLUCHER DEATH . I am an engraver, at 32, St. Martin's-le-Grand. Some time ago I received from my shop-boy, Baker, a letter, containing an order, signed, "R. Murray Campbell, and Co.," dated 30th July, in consequence of which I made up a parcel containing half a ream of letter-paper, 500 envelopes, and a card-case, and sent Baker with them, and a bill receipted, to 34, Coleman-street, desiring him to bring back the money or the goods—he returned in due course, and brought back nothing but the receipted bill—upon that I went to 34, Coleman-street, and saw a stout man, a clerk, who I have not seen since—I asked for Mr. Campbell, and he said, "There he is"—he was within sight and hearing, and I said to the prisoner, "Are you Mr. Campbell?"—he said, "Yes"—I said, "I am not known to you, but my name is Death, and I have come about some goods my lad recently left here, and

I want payment for them"—he hummed and ahed, and I said, "Let me have my goods back"—I looked round the place, and would have taken them if I had seen them; and I said, "Where are they?"—he said, "They are not on the premises, I have sent them away"—I said, "It is impossible, a quarter of an hour cannot have elapsed"—he had very little to say, and I said, "You injure a poor lad in my employ, for I gave him strict orders not to deliver the goods without the money, and I shall discharge him from my employ"—he said, "Mr. Death, pray where does your lad reside?"—I said, "Why do you want to know?"—he said, "Because if you discharge him, I will take him into my employ;" and he also said, "I might have kept the receipted bill if I had chosen"—I said, "That would have been a case of robbery, I should have come back instantly with a policeman"—he said, "You give credit?"—I said I did not to strangers—I was obliged to part with him—he said he was going to shut up the office, and I found I could not get my money—on my leaving, the stout man said, "What is this all about?" and I showed him the letter, which he tried to get away from me—Campbell was near him at the time, and the stout man said, "Oh, I will call on you, and settle that"—I said I wanted it settled then, and he said, "Oh, he is a b—st—d ass," pointing to Campbell—Campbell said nothing—I never got my money or the goods back—I saw I was done, robbed, and cheated—this is the receipted bill ( produced)—(letter read—"34, Coleman-street, July 30th, 1850. Sir,—Have the goodness to send us 500 commercial envelopes, in two cases, and half a ream of good letter-paper, and a card case for our Mr. Campbell's private cards; and have the goodness to send us a fresh bill, and we will discharge it. R. Murray Campbell, and Co.")—(Bill read—" Printing 500 cards, 12s. 6d.; engraving card-plate, 4s. 6d.; card case, 1s.; 500 envelopes, 5s.; half-ream paper, 6s. Received 31, 7, 50. B. Death.")

Cross-examined by MR. CARTER. Q. When did you receive that letter? A. The day it is dated, or the 31st—it is entered in my books as the 31st—by "our Mr. Campbell," I understood the prisoner—on 24th July Mr. Campbell called, and ordered the 500 cards—I sent them in due course—there was another order on the 26th, before the first was completed—I did not see him—I sent an invoice with those goods (they were sent together), but not receipted—the goods were left, but not paid for—I asked my shop-people why they did not get a deposit on those orders, and they said it was a man of respectable appearance—the last lot of goods were good for any one else, which the others were not—I do not prosecute him on account of his insolence—there was a card-plate in the order, which enable cards to be printed subsequently to any amount—Mr. Campbell did not ask me to let him have the plate—he did not offer to pay for it—I did not refuse to give it him; I openly tendered it to him on the condition of being paid while I was there—the cards had been delivered—I had only sent one bill previous to this—when I called on Campbell, I took the same bill with me—within two or three days after, I left another one, not receipted—I did not agree to wait a few days for the money—I do not know whout was I left that bill with—I did not press Campbell to pay me in a few days; I wanted to be paid then—the stout man told me he would call and settle.

MR. LOCKE. Q. Did he order the cards on the 24th of you? A. No;

I know nothing about it, except what my shopwoman has told me—the order on 20th was given to my wife, and I know nothing about it, except what she told me.

PHŒBE NUNN . I am shopwoman to Mr. Death. On 24th July the prisoner called at the shop, and asked if we printed letter-press cards—I told him, "Yes," and he said he wished to have 500 printed, "R. Murray Campbell and Co., 34, Coleman-street"—he gave me this card(produced), and a written order—when Mr. Death came home I told him of it—that was the only time I saw Campbell—I am quite positive he is the person—he said nothing about credit—we are not in the habit of giving credit to strangers—we generally ask for a deposit, or the address—if they give an address we do not ask for a deposit.

Cross-examined. Q. How long have you been in Mr. Death's employ? A. Seven years; during that time I have never parted with goods without a deposit, or the address—I had an address with this order—he asked what they would be, and I told him about 12s.—Mr. Death asked me if I had taken a deposit, and I said, "No; the gentleman left his address"—he said I ought to have taken a deposit.

WILLIAM BAKER . I am errand-boy in Mr. Death's service. I remember at some time at the end of July taking a parcel from Mr. Death's to 34, Coleman-street—I believe it was cards—there was "Campbell" on the door; I cannot recollect the rest—I went day after day—I saw a person I supposed to be a clerk there, not the prisoner—I think I left the parcel; I said, "I have brought the goods from Mr. Death's;" and he said, "You can leave them, if you please"—I did not leave them; I brought them home again—I did not ask for the money the first time I went—I took a bill with me—I brought them away again, because master told me not to leave them without the money—a few days after that I went again with another parcel—I went day after day, three or four days—I did not leave the parcel, because master told me not, till I saw him—at last I saw him, and said, "Please, sir, I have brought the goods from Mr. Death's"—he took them, opened them, and said, "Tell Mr. Death my clerk will call this evening, and give another order, and pay for them"—I opened the bill, and showed it him, and then he said that—I left the goods because he gammoned me to do it, and said that his clerk would call and pay—Mr. Campbell said, "You had better take the bill," and I took it back, but neither the goods nor the money—I saw Mr. Campbell write the letter produced—I delivered it to my master.

Cross-examined. Q. When was that? A. The last time I was there, when I left the parcel—I cannot exactly say how many parcels I have left there; it was two or one, not three—I took this order for the goods, which I took this bill for afterwards—I saw Campbell twice—when I said I had not seen Mr. Campbell when I took the parcel, it was not true; it was not the first time that he gammoned me—he got the goods then, by-saying, "I will give you a little note to take back"—I had not got a receipted bill then—I have been about seven months in Mr. Death's employ—he has not disharged me.

WILLIAM HENRY FENNING ( City-policeman,565). On 6th Nov. I went with Mr. Varian to Chandler's warehouses, 8 Billiter-street, where there was "R. M. Campbell and Co." on the door—Mr. Varian told the prisoner he had come for his goods or money—Campbell said he did not know anything

about it; he had not got the goods or the money—he shut up his books, came outside, locked the door, and Mr. Varian gave him into custody—he said, "I give him into custody, for obtaining goods under false pretences;" and Campbell said be would go to the station—I searched him, and found 3s. 1 1/2 d., a bill, two papers, a tobacco-pouch, and this card (produced)—(card read—" R. M. Campbell," &c.)


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-96
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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96. ROBERT MURRAY CAMPBELL and JOHN PENNINGTON were again indicted with WILLIAM POMFRET for unlawfully conspiring to defraud Isaac Stephen Varian and another.

MESSRS. RYLAND and LOCKE conducted the Prosecution.

ISAAC STEPHEN VARIAN . I am a brush-manufacturer at 2, Blackman-street, Borough. At the latter end of Oct. a person called on me for a list of prices, which I gave him—he gave me this card, "R. M. Campbell and Co., Chandler's Warehouses, 8, Billiter-street"—my brother called on Campbell and Co. and got this written order (produced)—I know nothing about it myself—in consequence of that I supplied some goods, made out this invoice (produced), and gave it to my brother to take with the goods and get paid—he did not bring back the goods—there is discount at the bottom of this bill; I sold these goods for cash—I knew nothing of Campbell and Co., selling for cash I never look for a reference—I went the next day to 8, Billiter-street, and found the office closed—I went several times and tried to see Campbell at the office, with "Campbell and Co." on the door—I went, perhaps, four times before I saw him—the office was closed all one day and open the next morning, and I saw a lad there—when I saw Campbell I asked him whether he intended paying for my goods—he said, "No;" and said something about it being a credit transaction—I said it was no such thing, I should either have my money or goods—he said the goods had been sent away—the bill amounts to 7l. 10s. 8d.—my brother has been obliged to go to Cork—I made inquiry, and in consequence of what I ascertained, I went with Fenning to Campbell's place in Billiter-street, and told him I did not wish to have any more trouble about it; I was determined not to be cheated, and if he gave me my money or goods I would have done with it, but if not, I should arrest him—he said he would not let me have either; dared me to do my worst, and said he would turn me out of the office, he was going home—he locked the office up, and I gave him in Fenning's custody for defrauding me—he afterwards showed me the invoice—I afterwards made the charge at the Mansion-house—my brother, Amos John Varian, was there examined, I think—Mr. Goodman took his evidence—after he had been examined Campbell asked him some questions.

Cross-examined by MR. CARTER. Q. Was it Campbell who called? A. No; my brother took the order and verbally reported it to me—he brought me this paper—it does not correspond exactly with the bill, because there are no details in the paper—Mr. Campbell refused to pay me altogether—I demanded ready money—I asked for the money or the goods—he said it was a credit transaction—I applied to Alderman Gibbs for a warrant, and he told me it was a debt—I was quite willing if I had got the goods back to have done with the matter altogether—the goods were specimens of different articles, which could be used to sell to other tradesmen, not a large number of any articles—I am in a large way of business—

when I supply a country correspondent I supply a large number of each article—there was more conversation than I have detailed, but I do not exactly recollect it—there might have been high words between us—I told him what I thought he was.

MR. LOCKE. Q. What did you tell him? A. I think I said if he did not pay me, or give me the goods, I should have him arrested in the morning as a swindler—the list I sent✗had "for cash only" on the face of it.

WILLIAM HENRY FENNING (City-policeman,565). On 6th Nov. I went with Mr. Varian to 8, Billiter-street, where there was "R. M. Campbell and Co." on the door, and saw Campbell—Mr. Varian said he had come for his money or his goods—Campbell said he did not know anything about it, he had not got his goods, and he might give him into custody if he thought proper—Campbell put away his books, came outside, locked the door, and gave the key to a little girl; and on Mr. Varian's order I took him in custody—I searched him at the station, and among other things found this bill (Mr. Varian's), and this card ("R. M. Campbell and Co.." &c.)

Cross-examined by MR. CARTER. Q. What enables you to swear to the card? A. I rubbed it up with my thumb on the top at the front, and have had it in my possession ever since—I do not recollect that Campbell said to Mr. Varian, "You take me into custody at your peril"—a word or two passed between them about taking him into custody, but I do not recollect what it was—I heard no threat used by Mr. Varian—there was a stoutish gentleman present who I have not seen since.

MR. RYLAND. Q. Have you another card of Campbell and Co's.? A. Yes; two more which I got from Pomfret on 7th Nov., when he was ordered into custody at the Mansion-house—the two cards are similar to the other—they have been in my possession ever since—Pomfret came to the Mansion-house of himself.

Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. To give evidence in favour of Campbell? A. Yes; he was giving evidence when the Alderman ordered him into custody—I do not know whether he was Campbell's clerk—I heard him give his evidence—I do not think he was sworn.

MR. SAMUEL ROBERT GOODMAN . I am chief clerk at the Mansion-house—I produce the original minutes of the evidence of Amos John Varian—it was never made into a deposition: it was intended to be, but in consequence of his absence afterwards it was not signed—Campbell cross-examined him.

MR. O'BRIEN objected to this being read, he could not see upon what ground it could be considered evidence, it was not an examination taken upon oath, nor was it a statement made by the prisoner returned on the depositions. MR. RYLAND did not tender it as a deposition, but merely as evidence of something which passed before the Magistrate in the prisoner's presence, and which might as well be done by calling a witness to state what took place. THE COMMON SERJEANT was of opinion that it might be read as something which passed in the prisoner's presence—(read)—"Q. At the time I gave the order, was it not understood I was to have a fortnight till I could give the order upon the samples? A. Certainly not.—Q. Have you got the list I gave you for a sample order? A. I have not now.—Q. How many did I order? A. You ordered from every article, but not a definite order.—Q. What amount did

I order? A. You said you did not mind the amount to a pound.—Q. Did I not say I should not be able to get an order for a fortnight? A. You did.—Q. Did you not agree to wait till I got the order for the money so as to pay for all together? A. I did not.")

Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. Just read what Mr. Varian stated immediately before? A. (reading—"I went the next morning, between twelve and one o'clock, and found the office closed; I went several times and found it closed; the following day I called and saw the porter, and afterwards a Mr. Pomfret, who said he was a clerk, and afterwards the prisoner Campbell came in, and said he expected to receive a fortnight's credit; I know nothing more of the prisoner Campbell, or the transaction, than as a ready-money transaction.")

Cross-examined by MR. THOMPSON. Q. Pennington was not present at any part of that examination? A. I do not know—he was not in custody.

HENRY JOHN BUNNEY . I am a stationer, at 9, Pancras-lane—I know the defendant. On 25th Oct., Campbell and Pomfret came together to our premises—they were then perfect strangers to me—they both spoke, and said they had been recommended to us to buy some books and general stationery, and they wished to see some—Pomfret gave me two cards, one of which I kept—this is it ( read—"Pennington and Co., English and Foreign Timber Brokers, 65, Lower Thames-street")—I do not know what has become of the other—it was "R. M. Campbell and Co.," and they said it was their card—they wrote down on a paper the articles they wanted, but I cannot find it—they then said, "You would like a reference;" and Pomfret gave me the card, with "Pennington and Co." on it—they then left—the next day, Saturday, I called at the address of Pennington and Co., in Thames-street, and saw the prisoner Pennington—I told him that two parties representing themselves as Campbell and Co. had called to buy some books; they had given his card as a reference, and I called to know if it was all right—he said Mr. Pennington was not within, I had better call on Monday to see him—I said, "Are they trustworthy people?"—he said, "No doubt it is all right," and I went away, and I did not go on the Monday—before I went, Pomfret had called alone, and asked if I had been to see Mr. Pennington—I told him I had not been able to go yet—he said they wanted their books and papers very much, and I told him I would go as soon as I had an opportunity—after that my brother, John Bunney, made a statement to me, in consequence of which I made up some goods—Pomfret called that afternoon and said, "I suppose you have been told that I brought my friend Mr. Pennington"—I said, "Yes; my brother has told me so," and in consequence of that I let him have a book, and promised to complete the order, which amounted to 2l. 15s. 5d.—a few days after, I heard that Campbell had been taken into custody—that was the same day the order was completed, and the last of the articles ordered to be sent, and I imagined they were sent—I went next morning to Pennington's, in Thames-street, saw the prisoner Pennington, and said, "You were kind enough to offer to pay for some articles Campbell and Co. have had," and gave him the bill—he consulted with his clerk, (who I saw here this morning—he is neither of the prisoners,) and then took me down into the street—he went about five doors along, hesitated, looked at the bill, and said, "I do not know what to say about this; I have never been to you," and his clerk said, "Oh no; it is some old fellow we keep, we

pay 5s. for, must have gone instead of Mr. Pennington; we have discharged him now"—I said, "I shall look to you for the money"—Pennington said, "I cannot pay for it; it is a very awkward case"—he did not say, "Do you know where Campbell is;" but I said, "He will be brought up at the Mansion-house this morning; to clear yourself of any imputation you had better come with me to the Lord Mayor"—he said, "My dear fellow it will be money out of my pocket to go that way to day; I have most particular business the other way"—I said, "Is your name Mr. Pennington?"—he said, "Yes"—I said, "Will you pay the money? and that will settle it"—he said he could not—I told him I should go to the Lord Mayor, and expose the whole affair—he clapped me on the shoulder, and said, "My dear fellow, you see it is a nasty case, and I will trust to your honour to say as little as possible"—I told him I should tell the truth, and left him—I have not got any of my goods back, or the money

Cross-examined by MR. CARTER. Q. Did he ever give you any order? A. No, he agreed to pay for them in my absence—I am not aware that there are two Penningtons; to the best of my belief there are not—I rather think Campbell was taken after the goods were delivered; it was the same afternoon—I never demanded the money of Campbell—the next time I saw him was when he was at the Mansion-house—the order was for some account-books, letter-paper, envelopes, and blotting-cases—there was not a word said about credit when the agreement for the goods was made—I did not subsequently agree to give them three months' credit—after Pomfret had taken a long foolscap day-book away with him, he said they were young tradesmen, their stock of cash was short, and he should like it to stand over till Christmas—I did not insist on having ready money—I did not give them credit, but I said there were so many scamps about, it was necessary to understand before we gave credit—I did not require a reference, they volunteered it—they were to pay ready money, but when I went to Mr. Pennington I had not made up my mind to execute the order.

Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. Pomfret was present when the goods were ordered? A. Yes, he came with Campbell; I thought he was the master; he ordered most of the goods, gave me the cards, and said they were Campbell and Co.—I have not reason to believe from what I have seen since that Pomfret was a clerk—I have not said so.

JOHN BUNNEY . I am brother of the last witness. I recollect Campbell and Pomfret coming and giving an order—I was not near enough to hear what they said—Pomfret came again on 1st Nov. with a person who is not here, and I said, "I have had great difficulty in getting the old gentleman to come, the old gentleman very seldom goes out"—he said, "I suppose you have the books?"—I said I would speak to my brother about it—the old gentleman said, "I have come to speak to you about these goods, I have known these parties for some time, they are very industrious"—he then asked me how much the goods would be—I said about 5l. as near as I could guess, and he said, "Send the bill down to me in Thames-street, and I will pay for it"—he did not say particularly where—I do not know who he was—he is not here—he said, "You will find it all right;" and after he had gone, Pomfret stated what I had said before—he did not mention any name—Whitehead had called me, and said in the presence of Pomfret and the old gentleman, "Here is Mr. Pennington"

—I talked to the old gentleman as Mr. Pennington, of Thames-street, whose name was on the card—Pomfret called again in the afternoon, and took a book away with him—I did not hear what he said.

Cross-examined by MR. CARTER. Q. You could not hear what took place when the parties gave the order? A. No; but I saw the paper afterwards with the writing on it, written by my brother from their mouth, and on which there was the book put down which Pomfret had taken away—I have not seen the old gentleman since.

Cross-examined by MR. THOMPSON. Q. Was it the old gentleman you meant when you told your brother, Mr. Pennington had promised to pay the account? A. Yes.

MR. LOCKE. Q. The person who came with Pomfret, and represented himself to be Pennington? A. Yes; Whitehead represented him to be Pennington in his presence, and he did not object to it.

WALTER WHITEHEAD . I am apprentice to Messrs. Bunney. Early in Nov., I recollect Pomfret coming to our shop with an old gentleman—he asked for Mr. Bunney—I said he was not within, and he said he merely called to introduce his friend Mr. Pennington to Mr. Bunney—he had no one with him but the old gentleman, and he said, "My friend"—in consequence of that, I called Mr. John Bunney—there was then some conversation between Mr. John Bunney, the old gentleman, and Pomfret, which I did not attend to—the prisoner Pennington is not that old gentleman.

Cross-examined by MR. CARTER. Q. Were not his words, that he had called to introduce his friend to Mr. Bunney? A. He said, "My friend, Mr. Pennington"—I went with the message to Mr. John Bunney as he was coming down the stairs from the counting-house, and delivered the message to him at the top of the stairs—the two men were at the bottom—there were fifteen or twenty steps between.

Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. Did Pomfret say he had come from Campbell and Co., or Campbell? A. Neither; I recollected him as one of the parties who had called some time before, and represented themselves as Campbell and Co.—he did not say Pennington was Campbell's friend; he said, "My friend."

WILLIAM FOSTER . I am a stationer, at 114, Fenchurch-street. On 29th Oct., Campbell and Pomfret come to my place, and said they wished to open an account with me for books and stationery, as they wished for the goods directly, and Pomfret gave me this card (produced,"R. M. Campbell and Co.," &c.) which Campbell handed to him—I said I could not supply the goods without a respectable reference—Pomfret said they would give me a respectable reference, and gave me this card (reads—"Pennington and Co., English and Foreign Timber Brokers, 65, Lower Thames-street, opposite the Custom-house, London")—I made inquiries, which were not satisfactory, and refused to give them credit.

Cross-examined by MR. CARTER. Q. They did not volunteer a reference? A. No; I heard that they had given me an order before, but I do not know it of my own knowledge—they could not have had goods unless they paid for them.

Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. Who gave the order? A. Pomfret spoke as to procuring the order; they both spoke.

MR. LOCKE. Q. Who was the account to be opened with? A. Campbell and Co.

RICHARD CORFIELD BUCKNALL . I am a cork-cutter, at 31, Crutchedfriars;

there is also a brother of mine a cork-cutter, in the neighbour-hood. At the latter end of Oct. I received this letter (produced), which I answered, and after receiving this reply (produced), I went in consequence to 8, Billiter-street—I saw Campbell there, and told him I waited on him in consequence of a letter I had received, and not having had an order, I wanted to know whether he had understood it, and whether there was any misunderstanding, because there were two brothers of the same name in the same street, and I did not wish any order intended for the other house to be executed by mine—I understood him then to say that I should have half the order—after that, I received another note signed as before, giving a further order for samples to be sent—(These letters being read, were all addressed"Messrs. Bucknall," and signed "Per., R. M. Campbell and Co., W. Pomfret." "Chandler's Warehouses, 8, Billiter-street, Oct. 26, 50. Gentlemen,—Please inform us your usual terms of business, with sufficient City reference, for an export order of from 40l. to 50l.; an answer per bearer will oblige, and if the terms are satisfactory, we will return the order and name of referee."—No date—"Gentlemen, You misunderstand my letter; I ask your usual terms of business for a small export order of from 40l. to 50l., where respectable City reference is given, or in other terms, what extent of credit."—"Sir,—Please send per bearer a small sample of those Spanish corks at 5s. a gross, of which fifty gross are ordered; 8, Billiter-street, Chandler's Warehouses, Oct. 29, 50.")—These two cards were left by the prisoners in my absence—(These were two cards of "Campbell and Co." &c., with the following orders on the backs.—"Samples at 1s., do at 1s. 6d., do at 3s. 6d.,55l.""100 gross at 3s. 6d., 200 gross at 1s. 6d., 200 at 1s., also 50 gross best velvet for white wine")—after I had received those five documents, Campbell and Pomfret called, examined the corks at 15s., and agreed to take fifty gross—this card—("Pennington and Co.," as before) was left while I was away—I immediately went down to Thames-street, and saw where they were located, but would not go in—I went to a friend of mine named Turnley, a lighterman, at Hall's Wharf, and in consequence of what passed between us, I made up my mind to have nothing to do with the order, and wrote to them to that effect.

Cross-examined by MR. CARTER. Q. They were not to pay ready money? A. Not if they gave a respectable satisfactory reference.

JOHN LEE HEAD BUCKNALL . I am a nephew of the last witness, and carry on business with my father, at 22, Crutched-friars—at the latter end of Oct. Campbell and Pomfret came—Pomfret asked to examine some corks, and while doing so he handed me a card with "Campbell and Co." on it—I have not got it here—they requested me to send samples to their place in Billiter-street, which I did—a few days after, this card ("Pennington and Co.") was left, with an order on the back, amounting to 42l. 10s.; in consequence of which I went to Pennington and Co.'s—I asked to see Mr. Pennington—some one in the office introduced me to an old gentleman, who said he was Mr. Pennington—I told him I had been referred to him by Campbell and Co., and I wanted to know about their respectability—he said they were a highly respectable company, and we should be quite right to trust them to that amount—I was not at all satisfied with the inquiry.

Cross-examined by MR. CARTER. Q. The old gentleman was not the prisoner Pennington? A. No; I never saw him.

JOSEPH YOUNG . I am a bootmaker, in Fetter-lane. About 15th Aug.

Campbell called at my shop and gave me a card, which I have not kept—it was "Murray, Campbell, and Co., Coleman-street"—he ordered a pair of boots—I made them to time, took them home, he was not there, and I took them back to the shop—on the following Monday evening he came with a person who I do not know, tried on the boots, and said they would do very well—I put them in paper expecting to see the money, and he took them up and went off as hard as he could—I had no one in the shop and could not go after him—I went to the place of business on the Tuesday or Wednesday, could not get the money, and went away—I went a second time; he abused me and I abused him—I never got the boots back or the money.

Cross-examined by MR. CARTER. Q. I suppose they went out in the usual way? A. I could hear them going pretty sharp—he told me he had left his money with his clerk, but I could find no clerk—he paid me 5s. on account—I never got the balance or saw the clerk.

(Thomas Edward Blucher Death was here examined, as in the former case. Seepage 84.)

WILLIAM HENRY DIXON . I am an engraver at 31, Bridge-house-place, Newington—about the 3rd Oct. Campbell and Pomfret called on me and gave me an order for a zinc door-plate, which was to be engraved, "R. M. Campbell and Co."—after that, they called again, and ordered a card-plate and 250 cards, "R. M. Campbell and Co., London, Chandlers Warehouses, 8, Billiter-street"—I printed 250—those that have been produced are some of them—I put the door-plate on at 8, Billiter-street, but saw no one there then—Mr. Campbell gave me the key at my own shop—I received this note—(read—"8, Billiter-street, Chandlers Ware-houses, Oct. 25, 1850. Sir, I find you have not left the remainder of the cards you got ready for us; please send them per bearer, as Mr. Campbell is going into the country and will require them. On his return on Wednesday next I will call and settle your account. For R. M. Campbell and Co. W. Pomfret.")—they had had some of the cards away before that note came, and while I was gone to Billiter-street with the remainder the note arrived—I saw Campbell and Pomfret at Billiter-street and asked for the money for the cards—they said they were going into the country, but should want the cards, and would send the money by the following Wednesday—they have not paid for the cards or door-plate.

Cross-examined by MR. CARTER. Q. Did they say they were both going? A. No; the order for the cards was given before the door-plate was finished, and the plate was put on before the cards were finished—Campbell called and took fifty cards away with him, saying he should want them as he went to the City, and if I called in the afternoon he would settle for them—he did not say he wanted credit—the whole amount was 25s.—I had applied for my money before I delivered the last of the cards.

EDWARD DOWNING (police-constable B 46). I know Pennington—I have seen him in Campbell's company at 17, Adam-street, Adelphi—I saw them go in and come out together there, and go to a public-house in the Strand—I have only seen that once—I have seen Pennington there with a Mr. Wright, who was tried some sessions since—I was present when the prisoners were committed—Pennington was at my side (he was not in custody), and I heard him say, "I know nothing of the man, I never saw him before in my life"—Campbell and Pomfret were then at the bar.

Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. When was it you saw Campbell

and Pennington together? A. At the latter part of March or the beginning of April—I did not know Campbell then—I did not see him again till he was in custody—I did not make a note of what Pennington said, but it made an impression on my mind.

THOMAS BURGIN . I am servant to Mr. Wilson, of 67, Lower Thames-street, who is a Custom-house agent, and lets out premises in offices—the prisoner Pennington occupied the first-floor there eight or nine weeks—"Pennington and Co." was on the door.

Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. Were you ever in the office? A. Yes; I saw Pennington there—I have seen no one else there but a boy and carpenters at work—I never saw either of the other prisoners there, or an elderly gentleman—I have only been in once or twice, but I go by the door every day—I live on the premises, and generally look in if the door is open.

MR. LOCKE. Q. Have you seen Fone there? (Fone stood forward) A. Yes, I have seen him there ever since Mr. Pennington has had the office—I believe what goods were there have been taken away since he has been in prison.

GEORGE SCOTT (City-policeman,360). I was at the Mansion-house when Pomfret and Campbell were examined—Pennington was there, but not in custody, in the course of the examination the Alderman ordered him to be taken into custody, and he said, "What am I to go there for? I do not know anything of these men; I never saw them before."

Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. Was he summoned there? A. Yes, I summoned him at his office, to attend as a witness, by the Alderman's direction.

ALFRED JOHN FONE . I reside with my father, at 9, Payne-street, Islington. About the middle of Oct. I went into Mr. Pennington's service, introduced by a person named Huggard—I was to have 3s. 6d. a week—I remained there five weeks, till he was taken into custody—I stopped at the office, and took the names of persons who came—Mr. Huggard, who is a tall thin man, was there sometimes, and sometimes Campbell and Pomfret—I have known Campbell and Pomfret to come sometimes twice a day; they seemed to be on intimate terms with Pennington—I have twice or three times taken cards from Mr. Pennington, with his direction on them, to Campbell, and notes also—I have seen Campbell's cards at Pennington's, I do not know who brought them there—Mr. Pennington occupied one room on the first-floor.

Cross-examined by MR. CARTER. Q. Were you examined before the Magistrate? A. No; I first saw Campbell at the office about a fortnight after I went there—I have seen him there about six times.

Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. How often have you seen Pomfret there? A. Three or four times; sometimes with Campbell, and sometimes alone.

Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. Were you always in the office? A. Sometimes I went outside—I did not hear persons come and inquire for Mr. Campbell—I was present once when Mr. Pennington refused to give a reference—I do not know why that was—it was about three weeks ago.

MR. LOCKE. Q. How many times have you seen him give a reference? A. I do not think at all, because he sent me outside.

RICHARD FURGESON . I am clerk to the Mendicity Society. I have

known Campbell since Sept. 1849. In Sept. and Oct., 1849, he made application to members of the Society, which applications came before the Society, and he has received money since in consequence—I know he received three donations of 1l. each in Sept. and Oct., and I have a letter which he addressed to me subsequently; it is his writing—I saw him write the receipt for the money—( letter produced—this was a letter addressed to the witness, dated Nov. 19, 1849, signed "R. M. Campbell;" it referred to the relief he had received, stating that he was a solicitors clerk out of employ, and requesting the witness to employ him)—I went to identify him, in order to prevent giving him any relief in future, and on that occasion he told me he was the same person who had received money from the Society, he was very sorry for it, but he had been led into it by Pomfret—Pomfret was in the same cell, but I do not think he heard it.


WILLIAM LITTLE . I am a paper agent, and have lived in Trinity-square between eight and nine years—I knew Pomfret when he was at school—I then lost sight of him some time, and then knew him again—he returned from America perhaps six months ago—he has been a commission-agent —about 20th Sept. his sister, who lives next door to me, brought me this paper ( produced), and in consequence of what she said I took it to Campbell and showed it to him—Pomfret was there—this is Pomfret's writing to it—it was then in the same state as now, signed by both parties—between that time and the time he returned from America, Pomfret had been acting as agent to a glass company—I know nothing particular against his character.

JOHN KIRKPATRICK . I have known Campbell some time, and have had opportunities of seeing him write—this "Murray, Campbell, and Co." to this paper is his writing—(the paper was not read).




Confined Twelve Months .

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-97
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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Reference Numbert18501125-98
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OLD COURT.—Saturday, November 30th, 1850.


Ald.; Mr. Ald. GIBBS; and RUSSELL GURNET, asq.

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25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-99
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99. THOMAS WRIGHT , feloniously cutting and wounding James White upon the head, with intent to do him some grievous bodily harm.

MR. ROBINSON conducted the Prosecution.

JAMES WHITE . I keep the Oxford and Cambridge stores, Oxford-street. On Saturday evening, 9th Oct., between six and seven o'clock, the prisoner was in my parlour; I heard the bell ring, and my servant went in; she came out and made a communication to me—I went in with Carrughi, and saw the prisoner lying on a woman, with his arm on her bosom, and her hand on his thigh—the table had been removed from its proper position in front of them—I put the table in its place, and the prisoner called me a d—d scoundrel, and other filthy words—I said, "I will tell you what it is, if you cannot use better language, the best thing you can do is to drink up your grog and leave the house"—he said, "I will do no such thing; I have paid for what I have had, and I will do what I choose in your house"—I said he must leave the room; he declared he would not leave until he chose, and he should do as he liked in my house—the woman got up, approached me, put her fist in my face, and said, "You b——y snot, I will put you out of the room myself, and punch your head"(I did not know either of them before)—I said, "I see what you are by your language; if you don't behave yourself, I shall certainly put you out of the house"—she repeated the language again; I laid hold of her gently by the sleeve, I neither touched her arm or any part of her; I took her to the door leading to the passage, and desired my man-servant to put her out—I used no violence whatever; if any damage had been done, her dress would have been torn—the prisoner got up stealthily behind me, I neither saw or heard him; the first notice I had was a severe crash on my head with a large glass—he then jobbed it into my head, and the third time he threw it at my head, which smashed the glass to atoms; this is the foot of the goblet—(produced)—there is no vestige of the rest—I was stunned, and nearly overpowered by loss of blood—he was not content, but when I turned to close with him, he inflicted several severe blows on my head with this stick ( produced)—my clothes were saturated with blood, I could scarcely see—that is the only public parlour I have.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Have you ascertained that the prisoner is a person of respectable character, and is in respectable service? A. I have heard so—I told the Magistrate I was ready to withdraw from the prosecution if the prisoner would pay 10l. to the charity of my parish; my chief reason was, that coming here as a witness would be a serious loss of time to me, our parish is poor, and if I could put 10l. into the poor-box, I thought I might as well; but the prisoner has never shown the least contrition, he has never been near me—he told me at the station he had not done with me then; I have no doubt he will murder me if he can—I did not call the woman a prostitute; I may have said, "You are making my house a house of convenience," but I did not to my knowledge—I did not tell her I knew her before as a thorough bad one, nothing like it; or that I had often seen her before—the prisoner was admitted to bail by the Magistrate.

PAUL CARRUGHI . I am an optician, of Holborn. On 9th Nov., in the evening, I went to Mr. White's, and found him about to go into the parlour—I went in with him, and saw a female sitting opposite me, and the prisoner lying down on the bench, with his body lying over the female, and his arm round her neck—Mr. White removed the table towards them—they both said, "What do you remove the table for"—Mr. White said, "it is time you should behave yourselves a little, and the sooner you drink your grog and go about your business so much the better"—the

prisoner said he had paid for the grog, and they had a right to stop as long as they pleased—Mr. White said, if they stopped there they were to behave more decently—the woman got rather angry at some words which I could not catch particularly—Mr. White said, "Come, I know you, and the sooner you go out of my house the better"—she got up, stamped with her feet wildly, and said, "You say you know me, you b——y snot, I will punch your head, and turn you out"—Mr. White said, "This won't do," took her very gently by the arm, and showed her out of the room—the prisoner was sitting quiet, but all at once he took up a glass nearly full of gin and water, and I could see by the action that he was going to throw it on Mr. White; he got out into the passage, and I heard the splash of water, and blows struck—I went out as quick as I could, and saw the prisoner strike Mr. White on the head with this broken glass (produced), he was bleeding profusely—he then struck him two or three times on the head with a stick—I tried to assist Mr. White, and Cobbett was scuffling to secure the prisoner; a policeman was sent for, and he was given into custody—he appeared sober, but much excited—at the station he said he had not done with Mr. White yet, he would swear his life against him—no one struck the prisoner in my presence.

Cross-examined. Q. I suppose he continued in an excited state at the station? A. Yes; according to my judgment, Mr. White took the woman by the dress, and not by the flesh of the arm.

WILLIAM COBBETT . I came up to my master and heard him say, "I know you"—the woman immediately got up, and said, "You know me, do you, you b——y snot, I will punch your head, and turn you out."

FRANCIS FRYER (policeman, E 15). Mr. White gave the prisoner into my custody—he was bleeding very much from the side of the head—the prisoner acknowledged that he threw the glass at him, and gave him two or three d——d good cuts on the head with the stick, and said he would do it again if Mr. White laid hold of the female in the manner he had—I thought at the station that he had been drinking, but he said it was through excitement—he said Mr. White should have his life or he would have his—I am certain he was sober.

JOHN WRIGHT . I am a chemist of Holborn. On the evening of the 9th November Mr. White came to my shop bleeding—I found a very broad wound near the crown of the head, about two inches long, and down to the bone; also a jagged wound, about an inch and a half long, near the left ear—a tumbler like this would produce them—he is not well yet—his head was very much inflamed—he was obliged to have lotions and medicine.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY of an aggravated assault. Aged 47.— Confined Six Months .

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-100
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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Reference Numbert18501125-101
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101. WILLIAM DYSON, JAMES MAHON , and JOHN MITCHELL , burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of James Holford, and stealing 1 ornament, 1 cup cover, and 1 candelabrum, value 14s.; his goods: to which

DYSON pleaded GUILTY . Aged 31.

MITCHELL pleaded GUILTY . Aged 29.

Transported for Life .

MESSRS. BALLANTINE and HUDDLESTON conducted the Prosecution.

JAMES FRASER PAUL . I am butler to James Holford, Esq. of Holford-house, Regent's-park, in the parish of St. Marylebone; he is now in America. On Sunday night, 13th Oct., previous to going to bed, I went round the house, I left it perfectly safe, and went to bed between ten and eleven—I sleep over the banqueting-room—about twenty minutes to two o'clock I heard a noise in the banqueting-room—I got out of bed and listened at the window—I looked out on the lawn, and heard a dog barking, and saw what I thought was the shadow of a man or a tree, I lifted up the sash and it moved—I awoke the footman and groom—I armed myself with a double-barrelled pistol, with a bayonet affixed—I gave a sword to the groom, and a gun loaded with ball, shot, and slugs, to the footman—we all three went down—the sashes of the banqueting-room window do not quite come down to the ground, there is a step about two feet six inches deep—the banqueting-room doors have nine or ten squares of ground glass in them—there are no shutters to them—I could see a light through the doors in the banqueting-room, but could see no one—I went round to the stable, at the west wing, and awoke the two coachmen—I took the gun from the footman and gave it to Thomas Hall, one of the coachmen, and gave a pitchfork to the other—I sent the coachmen to the south side of the house—I took the north side, at the other end of the banqueting-room, with the others—just as I took my station I heard the report of a gun on the south side—the light had then left that end of the banqueting-room—I went round to the south side, and saw a man running from the direction of the banquetting-room—I followed him—he threw himself under a thorn-bush; I saw it move, and fired at the lower part of the bush—the pistol missed fire, and I heard a voice from the bush say, "Oh don't, for God's sake, don't shoot me"—I could not tell whether there were any more persons in the bush—I fired again—I should expect the shot would have taken effect on the right side of the man's head; I saw his hat and fired a little below it—I then went to the assistance of the other servants, who were crying out very loudly—I there found Dyson in custody—I had passed him before—the police came—I found a candle near the gravel walk, with a piece of paper round it—a portion of one of the vases, which contained flowers in the banqueting-room, was shown to me broken off—there are on the' candelabra some ormolu birds, and also on the vase, and also a cup cover—I saw the window that was examined by Lockerby—it was fastened the night before.

Cross-examined by MR. WOOLLETT. Q. How many did your force consist of? A. Five; two of them were bigger than me—there were females in the house—my object in firing was to disable as many as I could—I only saw one when I fired—I saw three altogether.

GEORGE BENNETT . I am coachman to Mr. Holford—I was called up, and armed myself with a fork, and went round to the south side of the house—I got opposite the bow window of the banqueting-room—I saw three persons come out of the window and run—John Hall, who was with me, and had a gun, fired at them—I then ran after one of the men, it turned out to be Dyson; I knocked him down and secured him till Hall came up, and he was handed over to the police—I found part of an iron bar near the window at which they came out.

JOHN HALL . I am coachman to Mr. Holford—I went round with the other witnesses—I saw three men come out at the window—I fired at them,

and heard one cry out—they were close together as they ran—I do not know whether the shot reached them all—I do not know how the gun was loaded—I secured Dyson.

Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. The man Paul shot at under the bush would not be one of those you shot at? A. I cannot tell; it was dark, and I do not know how far they had got—I heard the report of Paul's pistol a minute or two after I had fired—it was in the direction the men had taken—I only saw three—the bush is twenty yards from the window.

JAMES FRASER PAUL re-examined. The gun that Hall fired was loaded with a large half-inch ball—it did not fit the gun; it was much smaller, and there were some very large swan-shot and some slugs.

JOHN COLLINS (policeman, S 3). On 14th Oct., at ten minutes to two o'clock, I was on duty in the Lower Avenue-road, and heard the report of a gun, and then a second report—I went to Mr. Holford's premises, and saw Dyson lying on the ground—I took him to the station—I examined some palings; they are spiked with iron and wire, and are rather sharp—this is one of the spikes ( produced)—I examined the palings, and saw blood on each side of them on the ground—I saw no blood on the fence.

JEREMIAH LOCKERBY (policeman, S 180). On 14th Oct., I went to Mr. Holford's, and found the catch of the banqueting-room window broken off, and marks on each side of the window-cill and shutters, as if from a small crow-bar or screw-driver—on Friday, 4th Nov., I was at the House of Detention, and saw a female talking to Mahon, who was in custody—I had seen her before at the George, Lombard-street—after she left the cell, she went into a beer-shop opposite the House of Detention, and joined two men and two other women there—one of the women lives with Mitchell—I pointed her out to sergeant Barry—they all five went away together—I saw the same woman come to Marylebone police-court to visit the prisoners, and I saw them at the George, in company with a woman who lives with Dyson, and who represents herself as his wife.

Cross-examined by MR. WOOLLETT. Q. I suppose the person who lives with Mahon came to see him, and the person who lives with Mitchell came to see him in custody? A. Yes.

HENRY BARRY (policeman, A 455). On Sunday night, 13th Oct., I went into the George, in Lombard-street, Mint-street, Southwark—I visit that house sometimes five times a week, sometimes every night—I was in plain clothes—I saw the three prisoners in the tap-room, sitting at the table with some pots of beer, conversing with several others—I did not know all of them—I have known Mahon and Dyson about two years, and have frequently seen them together—I know Mitchell, but have not seen him with them—I had seen Mahon and Dyson there eight or ten times during that month—I heard of this robbery, and in consequence of information, I was on the look out for Mahon—in addition to the George, I knew the places they frequented—I went to them, and frequently to the George, but could not see anything of them—I at last found Mahon at the Union public-house, near Hackney-road, about a quarter before twelve at night—he was sitting on a form at the bar—I had been there to look for him before—I called him outside, and said I should take him for the burglary at Holford-house—he said, "I know nothing of it; I will go with you"—I took him to Featherstone-street station—I said, in his hearing, to a constable with me, "Jones, you go back and apprehend Butcher

Bill, I saw him come out of the house"—(his real name is William Robinson;) I saw him come out previous to my going in—Mahon said, "There is no one with me, so help me God!"—I said, "I saw him come out of the house, and turn down the street by the side of it, where there is no thoroughfare, with a female"—Robinson has been apprehended, and was discharged—I took Mitchell the next night, the 28th, in Surrey-street, Blackfriars-road—a woman who lives with him was dressing his wounds—Lockerby pointed out two other women to me, one who cohabits with Mahon, and another with Dyson—I saw them all together at the police-court; they used to bring the prisoners' victuals—I have seen Mitchell and Dyson together occasionally—I once had occasion to go to Dyson's house, and there saw Mitchell.

Cross-examined by MR. WOOLLETT. Q. There were a great many people at the George? A. Six or seven; I have not seen any of them with Mitchell—I have with Dyson, both there and at other places—the woman I saw with Mahon was the woman who kept company with him—when I saw them at the police-court together; Mahon's woman paid a visit to him, and Mitchell's woman came to visit him.

EVAN JONES (policeman, M 250). On Sunday evening, 13th Oct., at ten o'clock, or a little after, I was at the George, and saw the three prisoners sitting at the table in the tap-room—there were three or four others at the same table—they appeared to be in conversation—I left them there—Dyson nodded to me as I was standing at the door—Mahon sat at the end of the table, Dyson next, and Mitchell sat opposite Dyson—the others were all at the table—they came in company—there was a man between Mahon and Mitchell, as far as I recollect, but not between Mahon and Dyson—I was with Barry when he took Mahon—when we had got about ten yards, I returned and took Robinson, and took him to the station— Mahon was there, and said to me, "You have no business to bring that man here; he knows nothing about it"—I had heard Barry tell Mahon that he took him for the burglary at Mr. Holford's—I laid hold of Mahon's hand, and looked at it; it was injured—he said he fell on some glass about a fortnight before—I had seen the three prisoners together daily at the George previous to 13th Oct.—after the burglary I went there once or twice every night, and sometimes more, but saw none of them there again.

Cross-examined by MR. WOOLLETT. Q. Barry was present when you took Mahon? A. We were both together—he was not present at the conversation at the station; he was in the yard—several constables of the G division were present—they are not here—I made no note or memorandum of the conversation; I had no opportunity—I trusted to my memory.

HENRY LOWCOCK . I drive a cab, and live at 9, Hertford-street, Somers-town. On the night in question I had taken a fare to the York and Albany public-house, at half-past one o'clock, or twenty minutes to two—I was feeling whether my horse was sweating; and Mahon came up to me from the Gloucester-gate, Regent's-park, in a direction from Mr. Holford's—I asked him whether he wanted a cab—he said, "No," and told me he had been bitten by a dog, and showed me his right hand, which was bleeding near the palm of the thumb—I said, "There is a pump here; you had better go and wash the blood off"—he went to the pump—I was outside the railing talking to him; he was inside—two or three minutes after I

first saw him, I heard my cab move—I went, and found Mitchell in the cab, very badly wounded—I drove him to the foot of Waterloo-bridge on the right hand side—immediately after I started with him, I heard another cab coming very fast behind me, and fancied the man wanted to catch me; and Mitchell told me to drive on—we had then got as far as the barracks.

Cross-examined by MR. WOOLLETT. Q. How far are the barracks from this public-house? A. About 200 yards—I had never seen Mahon before—there was a lamp close by my cab—I have been a cab man since 12th Aug., 1849—previous to that I sold newspapers at the London and North-Western Railway—I never was in any trouble in my life.

EDMUND JOSEPH . I am a surgeon, of Great Marylebone-street. On 28th Oct. I examined Mahon at the police-court, and found several marks on his right hand, which I consider had been produced by shot—there were three holes inside his right hand—they did not appear recent—my opinion is that they must have been more than a week old; it may be a fortnight—I also found a cut on the left hand, about an inch in extent—a spike of this description might probably have produced it—it did not appear to me that it could have been produced by the bite of a dog.

Cross-examined by MR. WOOLLETT. Q. Was it a clean or a lacerated cut? A. A clean cut; an ordinary spike would not have produced the injury—a knife, or a fall on a sharp flint, would have done it—if done in getting over a fence, I should expect the flesh would be torn, but it would depend on the character of the fence—there were a great many spikes—they were very close together, probably a couple of inches apart—the wound was on the left hand, close to the last finger, on the inner side of the palm—I think it could be produced by spikes of that description.

COURT. Q. Had the shot-marks been wounds, or only indentations? A. They were indentations when I saw them—from the character of them, I should say shot had been lodged there—I did not extract any shot—the skin had been broken—I should think the skin might have been broken, and shot lodged, and the place healed, in fourteen days, so as merely to leave an indentation—a mere fall on some pebbles would not cause an indentation so deep—I have never seen a fall produce such wounds, but I have seen shot produce a very similar effect—I cannot swear these were shot-marks—I had heard the evidence when I examined his hand.

JOHN HALL re-examined. The men were sixteen or twenty yards off when I fired.

MAHON— GUILTY . Aged 31.— Transported for Life .

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-102
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceNo Punishment > sentence respited

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JOHN LOW . I am a fruiterer, and live at No. 7, Beaumont's-place, Islington. I have dealt with Mrs. Dawson for many years. On Saturday, 9th Nov., I bought two bushels of apples of her which were to be 9s.—I did not pay for them—they were delivered to my cart, and brought home—on Monday morning, 11th Nov., a man or youth named Stanley, called at my house, and presented this bill—(read—"London, Mr. Low bought of C. Dawson, English and foreign fruit-salesman, Covent Garden-market, and Beale's wharf, Southwark; Nov. 9th, two bushels of apples,

9s.—Sir, I hope you will excuse my sending for such a trifle, but I have received a lawyer's letter this morning stating, that unless I can make up a certain amount by one o'clock, there will be an action commenced against me, and I am obliged to hunt after every shilling. Yours, F. Dawson.")—I knew that the amount and date were correct, but on reading the apology written at the bottom, it struck me that it was the prisoner's writing—I knew his handwriting—I was not positive then, but from looking at other writing of his, I am now satisfied, and I can swear it is his writing—I have seen him write—I asked Stanley who had sent him—he said that he was engaged to collect in Mrs. Dawson's debts—I asked him who gave him the bill—he said a man at Mrs. Dawson's shop—I asked what kind of man—he said a tall man—I asked who he was to take the money to—he said to that man—I said, I did not feel disposed to pay him, I should see Mrs. Dawson—I did so, and she said she knew nothing about it.

Cross-examined by MR. RIBTON. Q. It was not the prisoner who presented this to you? A. No; Stanley—I did not know Stanley before—I can positively say I have seen the prisoner write fifty times—I have never seen Mrs. Dawson write, and do not know her writing—this bill came to me with the corner torn off—I have had other bills from Mrs. Dawson with that corner torn off.

FRANCES DAWSON . I am a fruiterer, in Covent Garden-market, and am widow of the late Charles Dawson. I keep on the business in his name—the prisoner is my step-son—he was formerly in partnership with his father, but that partnership was dissolved—this bill is not my writing—I never authorised any one to write it, or any part of it—to the best of my belief it is the prisoner's writing—I have frequently seen him write for many years—on 9th Nov., I sold some apples to Mr. Low—I did not give the prisoner leave or license to send any bill to Mr. Low for the payment of this money, I had not seen him for three months before—I never gave him leave to ask for any money from any person—this bill has been transcribed from my day-book—the prisoner had no access to that book, but my shop was broken into on the Sunday night, and this book taken from a drawer under the counter where it was kept, and extracts made from it—the prisoner knew that Mr. Low dealt with me, and also with his father for some years—Mr. Low's address is not in the day-book; consequently the bill must have been made out by somebody who knew his address.

Cross-examined. Q. The prisoner was in partnership with his father? A. For a few weeks only, and his own bad conduct made his father dissolve it—he was gazetted—the partnership was in Tooley-street—he ceased to be a partner nearly three months before his father died, which was in Feb.—I have not seen the prisoner since July last—the partnership ceased about Oct. or Nov.—he was in the habit of coming to my place up to July—he took no part in the business—he did not make any claim upon me—he had no claim—I kept him from the time of his father's death till I fitted him out to go abroad in July, and I thought he had gone—he was in the habit of coming to me daily before that for what he required—my husband made a will, but he destroyed it at the time of the prisoner's bad conduct, as I was given to understand—I do not know anything about it myself—I have a foreman in my employ, named Michael M'Cormack—he has lived

with us seven years—I have the name of "F. Dawson" on my door—the "F." is for Frances—there is nothing else—I have many bills with the corners torn off—that was done when the partnership was dissolved—I have not been in the habit of using bills without the corner torn off since my husband's death—I swear that the prisoner has made no claim upon me, I am quite sure of it—he has made no claim as having a right to any portion of the property—he knew that his father died insolvent, and there was nothing to claim—he left me in business—we are so situated under the Duke of Bedford that they would not turn us out—he did not leave me sufficient to pay his debts—the prisoner received nothing after his father's death; there was nothing for him.

MICHAEL M'CORMACK . I am foreman to Mrs. Dawson, and have been so nearly seven years. I remember the sale of apples to Mr. Low—I made an entry of that sale in this book (producing it)—it is "9th Nov., Mr. Low two bushels of apples, 9s."—I am not in the habit of putting addresses in this book unless the party is a stranger, not to persons in the habit of dealing with us—Mr. Low's address is not in this book—I know the prisoner's handwriting well—this bill and letter is in his writing, I am positive—I did not authorise him to write or send it—this book is kept in a drawer under the counter—I left it there on the Saturday night —on Monday morning, 11th, I was informed that the premises had been entered by some false means—I was there on the Sunday, and all was quite safe then—on the Monday morning I went and found this book lying on the counter—I am quite positive that I had put it in the drawer on the Saturday night—I found the till broken open, and this piece of wood and this hammer were lying on a basket—the hammer was taken from underneath the counter—it had been borrowed the night before of a neighbour—this piece of wood is a portion of the broken till—I have not spoken to the prisoner since he left his father—I never gave him any authority to go and collect debts for Mrs. Dawson.

Cross-examined. Q. I believe some one else has been in custody on this charge? A. Yes, a man named Stanley; the Grand Jury have ignored the bill against him; I have not seen much of him—I have known the prisoner thirteen years—the partnership was dissolved last Dec.—the prisoner has not been in the habit of coming to the house since Jury last—I have seen him there occasionally before that, perhaps once in a day, when he called for money from his mother-in-law—he has not made any claim on her; she merely gave him 1s., or 2s., or a half-crown out of charity.

WILLIAM GOULD . I am a watchman, of Covent-garden-market. On Monday, 11th Nov., about four o'clock in the morning, I found Mrs. Dawson's shop door open—I went in, called Mrs. Dawson up, and found the till broken open—in consequence of information I apprehended the prisoner on 13th—I also took Stanley—Stanley said something to me, but not in the prisoner's presence.

MR. RIBTON submitted that the instrument alleged to be forged, was not an order within the meaning of 11 George IV., and 1 William IV., c. 66; that the person sending it had no power to enforce it; nor was the party to whom it was addressed, bound to obey it. It was not like the case of a check drawn by a person having funds at a bankers; there, the instrument was clothed with authority, and in case of a refusal to pay, an action would lie

against the banker. Upon the same ground he submitted that it was not a warrant; it was nothing more than a request, the forgery of which was a separate offence. MR. BARTON contended, that if the document had been genuine, it would have warranted both the payment and receipt of the money; and if that were so, the latter Counts would be supported. MR. BARON MARTIN entertained considerable doubt whether it was either an order or warrant; it seemed to him nothing more than such a letter as a creditor might send to a debtor asking for payment of the bill; but on being referred to the case of Reg. v. Grillian, 1 Car. & Payne, p. 719, he stated that in the event of a conviction he would reserve the point.

GUILTY . Aged 25.— Judgment Reserved .

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-103
VerdictGuilty > pleaded part guilty

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103. WILLIAM MOCKRIDGE , feloniously cutting and wounding Charles Clark, with intent to maim and disable him.

MR. BALLANTINE. for the prisoner, consented to a verdict of GUILTY of a common Assault. Aged 13.— Confined Fourteen Days.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-104
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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104. THOMAS SAVAGE and ELIZABETH SAVAGE , stealing 94 bottles of wine, 6 jars of preserves, and other articles, value 21l. 4s.; the goods of Henry Morris, the master of Elizabeth, in his dwelling-house.

MR. WOOLLETT conducted the Prosecution.

SARAH MORRIS . I am the wife of Henry Morris, a master mariner, of York-square, Stepney. On 26th June I employed the female prisoner to take care of the house—on 29th July I left town—I returned on 1st Aug., remained at home till 10th Aug., then left home a second time, and returned on 27th Aug.—next day I missed some tea; a day or two afterwards I missed three dozen willow-pattern plates and ten dishes—on 2nd Sept. I missed six dozen sherry—I dismissed the female that evening—next day I searched and missed twenty bottles of claret, some bottles of constantia, a sheet, five table-cloths, eighteen tumblers, twentyfour wine glasses, six bottles of chutney, six bottles of cayenne pepper, six bottles of currie powder, six jars of preserves, and six pounds of candles—I had not given her the right to use any of them—the cupboards they were in were open, and also the wine cellar.

Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. Who else did you leave in the house? A. No on; she had permission for her husband to sleep in the house—Catharine Evans was not left there, she had been in my service—she was discharged on 28th June, the day before the female prisoner came—I never saw the prisoner again till the officer came to fetch me to the police-station—the things were all safe on 26th June—I went over my stock that day; I made no inventory of it—Evans was not discharged for dishonesty.

JULIA M'GUIRE . I nursed the female prisoner's children at Mrs. Morris's house while she was in the country—I saw the male prisoner take a great many things from the house, and saw him stoop down in the cellar and take two or three bottles of wine on three occasions—I cannot say when it was, the female was not present—I used to take the baby there to suckle, but while Mrs. Morris was away it lived in the house—I afterwards saw some of the wine in the prisoner's house, and am certain it was the same—I saw the male prisoner take two bottles of currie powder, two bottles of chutney, and a bottle of cayenne pepper, at the

same time; the female was not present, but I saw her bring a table-cloth from Mrs. Morris's, under her waist.

Cross-examined. Q. On the last occasion she was alone? A. Yes.

CATHARINE EVANS . I was in Mrs. Morris's service from Oct. to June, when I left, and lodged at the female prisoner's till she enticed me away to Liverpool, on 6th Sept.—I saw both prisoners together bring some bottles of wine to their house, and saw the female bring a large linen table-cloth belonging to Capt Morris, round her body, and I saw her bring six bottles of claret by herself; also six dessert spoons, a bottle of cayenne pepper, nine bottles of currie, nine bottles of chutney, and three dozen willow-pattern plates, ten dishes, and two brass candlesticks.

Cross-examined. Q. She brought them on different occasions? A. Yes, to her house, 4, Rose-lane—I said the table-cloth was Capt. Morris's, she said, yes it was.

HAROLD WINGFIELD . I am in the employ of Robert Wilkins, a pawn-broker, of Waterloo-terrace. I produce a sheet and two tablecloths, pawned by the male prisoner on 16th Aug.

FREDERICK WOODTHORPE . I produce a tablecloth, pawned by Catharine Evans, on 18th July.

JOHN THOMPSON . I am a bootmaker, of 8, Church-street, Spitalfields. In June or July, the male prisoner offered me some bottles of chutney for sale; on one occasion he brought two or three more, and a bottle of what he called capsicum-powder—I never opened it—this is it (produced).

MRS. MORRIS re-examined. One of these table-cloths is marked M. 8., the second is not marked, the third is mine—this sheet has "Morris" on it—these bottles of chutney, and other things produced are mine.

Cross-examined. Q. What do you know them by? A. By their general appearance.

ELIZABETH ROBINSON . I keep a shoe-shop at 5, Collingwood-terrace. The male prisoner brought some glasses, some cayenne pepper, two brass candlesticks, two decanters, and sundry things, tied up in a cloth, and he asked me to let him leave them there as he was to be seized upon; he never called for them—I did not see him again till he was taken.

Cross-examined. Q. When did he leave them? A. In Sept., before quarter-day—he gave me no money.

WILLIAM SMITH (policeman, K 28). I received information, went to Liverpool on 18th Oct., and took the prisoner and Evans—I told them the charge—the female said, "I think Mrs. Morris is taking a great deal of trouble; you see what a great deal of trouble a bad woman will bring a man to; he knows nothing about it."



25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-105
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105. THOMAS SAVAGE and ELIZABETH SAVAGE were again indicted for stealing 21 lbs. weight of tea, value 4l.; the goods of Henry Morris the master of >Elizabeth Savage.

MR. WOOLLETT conducted the Prosecution.

SARAH MORRIS . I left three small chests of tea in the house when I left the house in the female prisoner's charge—I missed them on 28th Aug.—I have seen none of them since.

Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. Was there some left for her

use as well? A. Yes, in a small canister—two of the chests had never been opened.

MR. WOOLLETT. Q. Was there as much as two spoonsful left for her? A.No; only half-a-pound.

JULIA M'GUIRE . I went to Mr. Morris's to nurse the prisoner's baby—I went into the top back bedroom, and saw the male prisoner with a quarter of a pound of tea in a handkerchief—he tied up the box and put it into the cupboard—next day I saw the female prisoner bring down two aprons full of tea, and put them on the kitchen table; her husband was sitting by the fire.

WILLIAM SMITH (policeman, K 28). I took the prisoner.

THOMAS SAVAGE— GUILTY . Aged 30.— Confined Two Years .


NEW COURT.—Saturday, November 30th, 1850.



Before Mr. Recorder, and the Seventh Jury.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-106
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence; Guilty > lesser offence
SentenceImprisonment; Imprisonment

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106. JOHN CODY and THOMAS SMITH , feloniously stabbing, cutting, and wounding Edward Charles Batchelor, on his left groin, with intent to do him some grievous bodily harm.

MR. CARTER conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN WARD (policeman, A 357). I was on duty in the Bayswater-road, at half-past ten o'clock at night, on 28th Sept. I saw the prosecutor and three others standing together opposite the burial-ground, by the park railing—I did not see what they were doing—I saw the two prisoners there—they crossed over—there were seven or eight, before the prisoners crossed over—I heard them quarrelling, and I went over and parted them—they went on towards Notting-hill—the two prisoners went a little in advance—I went in the same direction, but a little in the rear—when they got on to the bottom of Albion-street they commenced quarrelling again—I went to them again, and sent Batchelor and his party up Albion-street, and I sent the two prisoners down the Bayswater-road, towards Notting-hill—I heard the prisoners making use of dreadful language—they said, "We know the b——y thieves well, and we will serve them out to-night"—both the prisoners said that—I went up to them, to take them in custody, and they ran away towards Notting-hill—I did not see any more.

Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. There were seven or eight who constituted the party with Batchelor? A. Yes; I separated them twice—the prisoners had gone on five or six yards in front—I did not see any of them fighting; they were quarrelling and making a noise—they had moved on about a quarter of a mile before I parted them the second time—I do not know where Batchelor lives—I did not notice whether either of them had been drinking; they did not let me get very close to them—I was two or three yards behind the prisoners when I heard what they said—I had just parted them—they made use of that language more than once or twice—they both used the same words very nearly.

EDWARD CHARLES BATCHELOR . I am sixteen years old, and live in North-street, Manchester-square. I was living with a surgeon in the Haymarket. On the evening of 28th Sept. I was in the Bayswater road, about half-past ten o'clock, with my brother, James Atcheson, and Richard Denny—we were walking slowly down the road, towards Notting-hill—we walked by the railing of Hyde-park—we passed the two prisoners, who were standing still—two or three minutes after we passed, Richard Denny stopped to light his pipe—the two prisoners came rushing up, and Smith snatched the pipe from his mouth—Denny pushed him off and asked what he did that for—before we passed them, we had seen the two prisoners walking arm-in-arm, and pushing one another about, as if they were tipsy—that was on the Bayswater-road—after Smith had snatched at Denny's pipe, the policeman came and separated us—we crossed over and walked a little way—we then crossed over again towards Kensington-gardens—we overtook the two prisoners again in four or five minutes—we did not see them till we got very near them—Cody then said, "Now then, you b——rs, us two will fight you"—Denny said no, he would fight the little one, meaning Smith—Smith then ran and hit Denny in the mouth—there was no other blow given—the policeman came and separated us again—we crossed over, and walked slowly up Albion-street—when we got opposite the mews in Albion-street, the two prisoners rushed out of the mews—they said, "There is the b——r that wants to fight"—on that Smith came over and struck Denny in the mouth, and Cody knocked him down—Smith began to kick him on the face and ribs—I ran up and said, "You coward, to kick him like that when he is down"—he said if I did not go off he would serve me the same—my brother and Ateheson went up the street, and Cody was following them up—my brother is younger than I am—I was left alone with Denny—Smith ran towards the others—Denny was lying senseless—I tried to lift him up, but could not—both the prisoners came running back, and as they came across the road I heard Smith say, "Now I will stab half the b—rs"—they came up where I was assisting Denny, and Cody gave me a blow across the eyes—I directly put up my hands before my eyes, and then directly I felt a hard blow in my groin—I felt a shooting pain, and in less than half a minute I felt the blood running down my legs—I cried out that I was stabbed—I reached a step of a door and sat down—I felt faint—a gentleman came to me, and I was carried to Mr. Morgan's surgery in Albion-place—I had my wound dressed, and I was carried in a cab to the Middlesex Hospital—I had no knife in my hand during that evening—I did not see a knife with either of our party.

Cross-examined. Q. How long had you been in this party? A. About an hour and a half or two hours—we were walking down there for a walk—I think there were six of us together when we first saw the prisoners—I had never known them before—all the six of us were in Albion-street when the prisoners came out of the mews—Denny was the stoutest and tallest of our party—he was not knocked down more than once in Albion-street—that was the only place where there was any fight—Smith hit him in the Bayswater road; that was before the policeman came up the second time—nothing was said to the policeman about that—he told them not to make a piece of work—I did not hear Atcheson beg of Denny not to fight any more—I was with Denny all the time, or within a door or two—I heard Denny say, in Albion-street, that he

would fight—that was before the two prisoners rushed out of the mews—we thought they were gone; and then Denny said he would fight again if they interfered with him—I did not hear him say that, after the fight in Albion-street had commenced, because he was knocked down directly—he did not get up till he was picked up—when the policeman parted us✗ the first time, the prisoners went on five or six yards before us—we crossed over to the other side of the way, and then we crossed over again to where the prisoners were, but we did not know they were there till we saw them—Smith might have said, "I will scatter them"—I should not like to swear that was not it.

MR. CARTER. Q. Have you any doubt that he said, "I will stab?" A. I always thought so—I understood him that it was "stab"—at that time they were coming back—there was no one to scatter but Denny and me, my brother and Atcheson had gone on—the other two were lower down the street.

COURT. Q. Where were the other two? A. We were all together when the prisoners ran out; then I and Denny walked on, and they followed us, and knocked Denny down; then they went to the others, and drove them back—the other four turned down the street—then when Denny was knocked down, Cody turned back to them—we were on the opposite side of the way when the prisoners came out of the mews—they did not rush suddenly out, and knock him down.

RICHARD DENNY . I am going on for eighteen years of age—I am learning the business of a coach-painter—on the night of 28th Sept. I was in the Bayswater road, in company with Edward Batchelor and several others—I think there were five beside myself—Atcheson and Peacock were as big as myself—we were taking a walk—while we were walking along, we saw the prisoners walking arm-in-arm, and larking, and shoving each other about, imitating drunken men—we passed them for about two or three minutes, and then we heard them running after us; and Smith tried to snatch the pipe from my mouth—I asked him what he did that for—he said it was a walking match, walking for a wager—they then said, "Give us none of your cheek, or we will show you how to fight"—the policeman came up and separated us—he sent our party up Albion-street, and the others went on—that was the second time the policeman came up—I, and our party of five, went up Albion-street; and when we got opposite Albion-mews, Smith and Cody rushed out of the mews-Smith hit me in the mouth, and Cody hit me on the side of the head—I fell down on the ground, and they both began kicking me in the mouth, on my head, and in my ribs—their violence stunned me, and I became insensible—I do not know what took place for some time—the next thing I remember was going to the surgeon with Batchelor—I had no knife with me—I did not see any knife, or any weapon of that kind—I had not struck anybody at all—I did not use my hands at all.

Cross-examined. Q. You had no knife at all about you, you say? A. No—I was smoking—I had not been drinking—Peacock was not called as a witness; he is an errand-boy—I offered to fight Smith—that was before the policeman came up the second time—Smith was going to hit me, and I was going to hit him if he had hit me; and the policeman interfered, and sent us away—Smith had hit me in the mouth before the policeman came up—I did not hit him, because the policeman came up,

and interfered, and sent us away—I told the policeman I had been hit—Smith did not spar at me, it was a sudden blow—it was after I had said that I would fight the little one, that I was struck—after I had been knocked down in Albion-street, I saw Atcheson in the surgery—I did not see him in the street—after I had been knocked down, and got up, Atcheson came up, and begged me not to fight any more—that was just as we got close by the surgery—the prisoners were then gone—I said nothing at the time—I said shortly afterwards that I would fight if I saw them—Atcheson did not come up to me before I was knocked down and kicked, and beg of me not to fight; and I did not say I would—I did not, in Albion-street, tell him that I would fight, before the prisoners came up—I did not hear Smith say, "I will scatter them"—Albion mews is on the left side of the street.

MR. CARTER. Q. Are there any mews on the right? A. I think there is a small one—I was knocked down twice in Albion-street—there was an interval of two or three minutes between the times—I was just rising up, and I was kicked in the ribs.

COURT. Q. Then you never did get quite up, but while you were getting up you were kicked in the ribs? A.Yes.

JAMES WILLIAM BATCHELOR . I am the brother of Edward Batchelor, and am fourteen years old—I am living as page with Mr. Cooper, in Milton-street. On the night of the 28th Sept. I was with my brother and some others in the Bayswater-road—after we had been separated by the policeman, we went slowly down Albion-street—when we got opposite the Mews, the two prisoners ran out of the Mews, and Smith said, "There is the b——r that wanted to fight (pointing to-Denny), and he hit Denny in the mouth, and Cody knocked him down—while he was down, Smith kicked him in the face and ribs as hard as he could—my brother said to Smith, "What a shame it is to kick him like that when he is down; a coward"—I was a little way down the road, Cody came after us, and Smith followed him but could not catch us—they went back, and I turned and went after them, keeping out of their reach—when I came near them, I observed that Smith had a knife in his hand which had a dark handle—I was four or five yards from Denny—I heard Smith say, "Now, I will stab half the b—rs"—I saw the steel shining, and the knife in his hand—I got a good distance from them, and Smith and Cody went towards my brother—my brother was then up against the railing, and they were up against him—he had left Denny then.

COURT. Q. Did you see him try to get Denny up? A. Yes; he tried to get Denny on his feet—he had just left Denny when the prisoners came to him—I did not see either of them strike my brother—I was down the street—I heard my brother say he was stabbed—I came back to him—he was sitting on the step—Smith was nearest my brother—he was three or four yards from him, in the road—Cody was going down Albion-street after Atcheson—a gentleman came across and picked my brother up, and took him to a doctor—there was another gentleman came up, and I said, "That is the boy that stabbed my brother"—because he was nearest to my brother—I could not say that he had stabbed him—I did not hear Smith say anything—the gentleman seized Smith by the collar, and then he seized Cody—I did not see Denny with a knife at all—at the time my brother was struck, Denny was senseless on the ground—I had no knife, and had not seen one with any of our party.

Cross-examined. Q. Was there a person named Giles there, one of your party? A. Yes; his father is a box and trunk-maker—he is about sixteen or seventeen—he offered to fight, to get Cody away—he said, "Come on! come on! I want you"—that was in Albion-street, about ten minutes before my brother was stabbed—that was after Denny was struck—I did not hear Smith say, "There were seven of them upon us"—he did not say seven of them had been pitching into us—I did not hear him say, "I will scatter them"—I heard him say, "I will stab half of them"—I saw a knife in his hand—the knife was shut—I was two or three yards from him—this disturbance in Albion-street lasted ten minutes, or a quarter of an hour—Peacock came into Albion-street, but I did not see him after Denny had the first blow—the first blow was struck on the pavement—Denny was knocked down twice—when he first got up he got knocked down again directly—I was on the other side of the road—I did not see Atcheson going towards Denny—when my brother said he was stabbed Cody was three times as far from him as Smith was—Cody was running after Atcheson—I did not say to any one that Smith had a knife.

MR. CARTER. Q. You did not say anything about it? A. No; I was behind Smith, and I thought be might stab me—it was about four or five minutes after I saw the knife in Smith's hand that I heard my brother cry out—when Giles said, "Come on; I want you!" they were kicking Denny—he said it to get them away—Cody then left Denny and came to Giles, and then Giles ran away.

WILLIAM ATCHESON . I am a gentleman's servant; I am nineteen years old. On the night of the 28th Sept., we were going down Albion-street—when we got past the Mews, the two prisoners rushed out—one of them said, "These are the b—rs"—Smith rushed to Denny and struck him in the face, and Cody knocked him down—Smith and he kicked him in the face and stomach—they continued to do so for some time—I did not see Edward Batchelor go up to them—Cody came up to me to strike me, and I retreated before him—Atcheson ran down the street with me—I came back again; Denny was picked up, and I begged him not to fight any more—I cannot say who picked him up, it was one of our party—I his face was covered with blood—I begged him not to fight again—he answered he would—the two prisoners came back again, and struck Denny again—Denny had not got quite up—I could not see who knocked him down the second time—they both rushed at him—they struck him with their fists—shortly afterwards I heard Edward Batchelor say that he was stabbed—I was then about twenty yards off—Smith was then by Batchelor, and Cody was pursuing me—I did not see Denny with a knife—I had no knife, nor had any of our party—I did not see a knife at all.

JOHN HART . I am a waiter, at the Duke of Kent tavern. On 28th Sept. I was in Albion-street—I heard a disturbance—when I came near the spot I saw Denny lying on the ground, and one of the prisoners kicking him—I saw them leave Denny and follow Edward Batchelor—I saw one of them strike him—I was not near enough to see which of the two it was—when I got nearer I asked what was the matter—one of the smaller boys said a boy had been stabbed, and then Edward Batchelor himself cried out he was stabbed, and the blood ran down his legs—Smith came up to me, and said seven of the b——rs had been pitching into him, and one of them had used a knife, and said they would serve the b——rs out—

he said, "Come on: who is the next one"—I thought he was going to strike James Batchelor—Smith did not say who had the knife—Denny was at that time lying on the ground—Atcheson came down the road, and called for somebody to come and pick him up—I picked him up, and set him against the railings—he could not get up, he was insensible and bleeding from the mouth—I called the police.

Cross-examined. Q. How many were there beside the prisoners? A. I saw five or six boys; some large and some small—Denny I believe was the largest—Smith was nearest to Edward Batchelor—Cody had left and gone after Atcheson.

COURT. Q. Did you see either of the boys strike either Smith or Cody? A. No, I did not, they were crying and screaming—I thought it was some women at first.

PHILIP WOOD . I was in Albion-street on this night—I heard a disturbance there—Smith came to me, and I said, "Halloo my man! what is the matter here?"—he said, "A boy has been trying to stab me, and he has stabbed himself"—he stood very quietly, and Cody came up—the little boy then said, "He has stabbed my brother"—I said to Smith, "You had better go to the doctor's; you won't have anything done to you if you have not stabbed him"—Cody then came up, and I said, "You had better both go"—Cody then said, "Let me alone; what have you to do with it? if you don't let me alone I will give you a smack in the mouth"—I said, "Don't you do that young man, you had better go quietly"—he said, "If you don't let me alone I will cut your b——y head off"—when I got to Albion-place I gave them in charge to a policeman.

Cross-examined. Q. Might it not have been, "I will knock your b——y head off" that he said? A. No; he said "Cut."

ANDREW LIDDIARD . I am a coal-merchant, and live in St. John's-terrace. Between ten and eleven o'clock on the night of 28th Sept. I was going home—I heard a disturbance and went down Albion-street—as I approached the group I heard the words, "There are four of you b——rs, come on, I can fight you all"—after that I heard Edward Batchelor cry out, "I am stabbed"—I crossed over and picked him up—as I was taking him away Smith came to me and said, "It is the one on the ground (meaning Denny) who has a knife, and he has cut my finger"—he showed me his finger, and there was a little blood on it—I cannot say which hand it was—Edward Batchelor was bleeding very much, I took him to the doctor's.

Cross-examined. Q. You heard, "There are four of you; I can fight the lot of you?"A. Yes; that was before I heard that the boy was stabbed—I cannot say how many were there before I came up—Mr. Hart was there, over Denny—the street was not particularly dark where Batchelor was; there were lights—there was a lamp three doors from where Batchelor was, he was at 39, and the lamp was at 42—I went to Mr. Morgan's surgery with Batchelor, and saw the wound dressed.

HENRY SAWYER (police-constable, A 358). The two prisoners were given into my custody—I accompanied Batchelor to the doctor's—I have his shirt and clothes here.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you search Cody and Smith? A. Yes; I found no knife—I searched the place and found no knife there—Smith said to me, in the doctor's shop, "There is a man there whom you ought

to take"—he pointed to no one—I examined Smith's hands—he had a small incised wound on one finger—it was a cut across as if with a knife, it was bleeding then—it was just across one knuckle, nearly through the skin, just enough to draw the blood—it was one of the middle fingers—I think it was his right-hand.

JOSEPH BRAY GILBERTSON . I was house-surgeon at the Middlesex Hospital. On the night of 28th Sept. Edward Batchelor was brought there—he was faint with collapse and loss of blood—I found a punctured wound in the left groin, as if done with a pointed instrument—there was no hemorrhage from it at the time—it had bled a good deal—I did not try the depth of it for fear of bringing on bleeding again—it was in a highly dangerous situation—I judged it to be a deep wound from the swelling around it—it was not a mere surface wound—I should say it required considerable force to penetrate the clothes and cause such a wound—from the appearance of it externally I should say it had been inflicted by a pointed instrument—a pointed penknife would have done it—it was a small wound, perhaps the eighth of an inch in length, just what a pen-knife would do—a large clasp-knife would have made a much larger wound—it had not been done by a clasp-knife—there was no appearance of a triangular wound—it was such a wound as you would expect from a penknife—it was almost immediately over the main artery of the limb.

(Smith received a good character.)

CODY— GUILTY of an aggravated Assault. Aged 17.— Confined Six


SMITH— GUILTY of Stabbing . Aged 17.— Confined Twelve Months .

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-107
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty; Guilty > lesser offence; Guilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment; Imprisonment; Imprisonment

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107. WILLIAM GRAINGER, HENRY RADLEY , and JOHN DWYER , feloniously and burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Thomas Bailey, and stealing 1 half-sovereign, 2 half-crowns, 19 shillings, and 12 sixpences, his moneys.—In a 2d COUNT, DWYER was charged with receiving the same; GRAINGER pleaded . GUILTY . Aged 11.—Received a good character, and a witness engaged to employ him.— Confined Seven Days

MR. ROBINSON conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS BAILEY . I keep the New Inn at Portland-town, in the parish of St. Marylebone—Radley was my potboy. On 26th Oct. I went to bed about half-past twelve o'clock—I left the place quite secure, I fastened it myself—Radley leaves my premises at ten or half-past—I did not go into the tap-room that night—I had a little puppy, which I missed on the Friday night—I always went into the tap-room to let the dog in there at night, but he was not in the back-parlour, and therefore I did not open the tap-room door, and cannot say whether the window was open or not—the dog was about the house next morning—I do not know what time Radley came that morning—on that morning I missed 2l. from a shelf in the bar—there was a half-sovereign, two half-crowns, and the rest was in shillings and sixpences—I last saw it at twenty minutes to one.

Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. How long had Radley been with you? A. About two months—I did not make any search for my dog, I had seen him every night but that—no one slept in the house but my own family—Grainger was my potboy, but I had an elder man, who had left about twelve o'clock at night—he does not sleep on the premises—

there is no fastening to the window; it only opens nine inches from the top—a person outside would have no difficulty in opening it, but he would have to climb up five or six squares—I do not know precisely what time Radley left that night—any person might have been secreted in the tap-room—any person might get from the tap-room to the bar by pushing the partition out at the bottom, I found it was not secure—a piece of the bottom groove was broken off, which would allow the partition to be pushed out—it could not be opened very wide, for there is a bolt halfway up.

EDWARD READ . I live in Portland-town, about 100 yards from the New Inn. On Saturday, 26th Oct., I was at my father's stable, between eight and nine in the morning—the prisoner Grainger came to me; we call him The Nipper—he showed me a little bag of money—I said, "Where did you get it from?"—he said, "Never mind, I will give you 10s. not to say anything"—I would not take the 10s.—he went into the stable and deposited the money in the bag in one Corner—I do not know what money it was—he shook it, and it sounded like money—he then went away—on the Saturday night Dwyer came to me—he said, "Here is a fine hullabaloo about this money; you will get in a fine mess about this money"—I said, "What money?"—he said, "The money that was stolen from the New Inn; you had better give it to me, or it will cost your father 200l. or 300l. to get you out of it"—I had heard of the robbery then—Frederick Ayers was with me at the time—I went and took the money from the corner that Grainger had put it in in the morning, and gave it to Dwyer—I had not disturbed it in the meantime—Dwyer said, "I don't care about being nailed myself."

Dwyer. Q. Where did you give me the money? A. Opposite Alpha-place—we went down Lisson-grove to look for Grainger, as Dwyer said he was down there.

FREDERICK AYERS . I live in Charles-street, Portland-town. On a Saturday, I do not know the day of the month, I had been at work in Harley-street till half-past six o'clock—I was going home to tea, and Read spoke to me—I did not go into the stable, but I went to Frederick-street with Read—Dwyer was with us—he said to Read, "You had better give me that money, else you will get into a hobble; it will cost your father 200l. or 300l."—that was the first that I heard about the money—Read gave him a bag opposite Alpha-place; it looked like a bit of a pocket, there appeared to be something in it—directly Dwyer got the bag he ran away.

Dwyer. Q. You were fifty yards away when he gave me the bag? A. No I was not, I was about two yards—it was right by the side of a lamp.

GEORGE COURT (policeman, S 308). I took Dwyer on 27th Oct., at ten o'clock at night—I had seen him very drunk on the Saturday night, between ten and eleven, with two others; he was twice drunk on the Sunday, and he was drunk when I took him—I told him I wanted him for being concerned in the robbery at the New Inn—he made no reply, but on the way to the station he said, "It is all right about the b——y pieces, but you have got to prove it first."

RICHARD BRAND (policeman, S 199). On Sunday evening, 27th, I took Radley—I told him he was charged with robbing the New Inn on

Friday night or Saturday morning—he said, "I did not rob it; the boy Nipper tried to rob it a few nights ago, but the dog disturbed him"—he said that on Friday night Nipper told him he would give him 5s. to put the dog out of the window and leave the window open, which he did.

Cross-examined. Q. Where was he on the Sunday? A. Where his father lives—he did not say he knew nothing about the robbery—he did not say that he did not do it—he said he did not rob it—I will pledge my oath to those words ( the deposition being read stated—"he said, I did not do it")—I was at the New Inn on Sunday morning—I did not examine the window—I had heard at that time that whoever got in had got in at that window—I did not ask Radley anything about the dog—the dog was not shown to me when I went to the house in the morning.

Dwyer's Defence. I received the money from the boy Read; I did not know whether it was a robbery or not; I was not drunk on Saturday night.

COURT to EDWARD READ. Q. Why did you go to look for Nipper, was it to get his leave to give it to Dwyer? A. No, Dwyer first asked me to give it back to Nipper—we did not find him—then Dwyer asked me to give it to him, which I did, and he walked sharply away.

(Radley received a good character.)

RADLEY— GUILTY of Stealing. Aged 15.— Confined Seven Days .

DWYER— GUILTY of Receiving. Aged 20.— Confined Six Months .

THIRD COURT.—Saturday, November 30th, 1850.



Before Russell Gurney, Esq., and the Seventh Jury.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-108
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown
SentenceTransportation; Imprisonment; Corporal > whipping

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108. WILLIAM REEVES and WILLIAM FILBERT , stealing 1 mantle, value 30s.; the goods of Thomas Aldwinckle: Reeves having been before convicted.

JOHN FREEMAN . I live at 30, Crow-street, Islington. On 9th Nov. I was passing Mr. Aldwinckle's shop, and saw the prisoners at the door—Filbert said, "Now"—Reeves opened the lid of a basket, and Filbert snatched down a mantle from the lobby of the shop, and put it into the basket—I ran up and seized them—after a struggle, Filbert got away, and I was still struggling with Reeves, when a young man came to my assistance, and took him into a shop—I then ran after Filbert, and took him, I had not lost sight of him.

WILLIAM MORTLOCK . I am a porter. I was by Mr. Aldwinckle's door, and saw Filbert pull down the mantle and put it into the basket, which Reeves had on his arm—I took this mantle out of it (produced).

THOMAS ALDWINCKLE . I keep a draper's shop, at Clark's-place, Islington. This mantle is my property—I was out, came home, and found it gone.

EDWARD BARBER (policeman, N 9). I took the prisoners at the shop, and received the cloak from Mortlock—Filbert said he did not know Reeves.

GEORGE LANGDON (policeman, N 27). I produce a certificate—( Read, Central Criminal Court—William Reeves convicted, Aug., 1849, having been

before convicted; Confined one year)—I was present at both those trials—Reeves is the person.

REEVES— GUILTY .† Aged 17.— Transported for Ten Years .

FILBERT— GUILTY .† Aged 16.— Confined Three Months, and Whipped .

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-109
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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109. WILLIAM PETER MILLS , embezzling 4l. 18s., 2l., and 2l.; the moneys of Robert More, his master.

MR. PARNELL conducted the Prosecution.

ROBERT MORE . I keep the Scottish Brewery, Old-street. The prisoner was my out-door clerk—he was paid by commission, and also received at starting 20s. a week to go against the commission—this agreement (produced) was entered into between us on 4th May—it was his duty to account for cash received within two days of the receipt—I have my books here—he has not accounted to me for 4l. 18s., received on 17th Sept., from Mr. Jenkins, who appears in my books as a customer—he has not accounted for 4l., or two sums of 2l. each, received on 26th Oct., from Mr. Trow—he used sometimes to account to me, and sometimes to Mr. Brookes, my principal clerk, or Mr. Punt—on 17th Sept. I happened to meet him in London, and he gave me a check for about 12l.—the entries in the scrawl cash-book (produced) are not in my writing, but I examine it occasionally, and very likely the same day that the entries are made—they are generally made in my presence—there is an entry here, in Mr. Rogers' writing, of a check of 2l., on 16th Sept.—on the prisoner's accounting with any of the clerks for money received from customers, it would be his duty to see it entered in this book, or enter it himself—there is no entry here of the sums mentioned.

Cross-examined by MR. CHARNOCK. Q. Whose duty was it to make the entries in that book? A. I endeavour to impress upon the out-door clerk that he should do it with his own hand, but my orders are not universally obeyed—supposing an in-door clerk receives money, and finds the out-door clerk has not entered it, it would be his duty to enter it immediately—the out-door clerk ought to enter it, and pay the money over to the in-door clerk.

COURT. Q. In whose custody was the book? A. Mr. Brookes'; it was his duty to see that the money was paid—an entry could be made in it without his knowledge, if he was engaged in other matters, but he would see it directly after, and demand the money—he is responsible to me.

MR. CHARNOCK. Q. Is not Mr. Brookes a receiver? A. Yes; Rogers has received occasionally, and Punt and Davison; and there is a drayman, named Tongue, who receives ready money, but not from the out-door clerk—if the out-door clerk brought money to Punt, it would be the duty of the out-door clerk to make the entry—money may be given to the in-door clerk without the entry being made, but not frequently—I am not aware that the in-door clerk makes any mark against an entry when he receives money—the prisoner came to me from Charrington's—he was to have seven and a half per cent. on what he collected in the beer shop trade, and ten per cent. on family customers of his own connection—he professed to have an extensive connection, and sent a circular round in my name, with my knowledge —he has been in my service since Feb.—I have often urged him to have a settlement, but never had one—I am not aware that he brought his book to the counting-house, for the purpose of having the account made up, and

receiving his commission—I have paid him 15l. altogether—when he paid me the 12l. he said he got it from Lee, I think—he did not tell me that he gave it me on account generally, of moneys paid from several persons—I know he bought a pony of Mr. Low, one of my customers, for my business, and I have rode behind it myself—he told me he had paid 19l. for it, for the express purpose of my business—he did not tell me that Mr. Low had agreed to take it out in beer, but that afterwards he, the prisoner, had agreed to pay cash—he did say he had to pay Mr. Low 19l.—I cannot tell how the commission account stands between us.

MR. PARNELL. Q. Did you direct him to purchase the pony? A. No—he would be able to get the book in which the money is entered, it laid in the office—Mr. Brooks saw it constantly—the prisoner might either enter money himself, or direct one of the other clerks to enter it.

GEORGE JENKINS . I live at Cotton-wall, Poplar, and sell beer. On 17th Sept. I paid the prisoner 4l. 18s., on account of the Scottish Brewery—he gave me this receipt—(produced—signed, "Paid, W. T. MILLS")—that paper is left with me when the beer is left, and when the collecting clerk comes he signs it.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you a customer of the brewery before? A. No; I am one of the prisoner's customers.

CHARLES TROW . I am a beer-seller at Stratford, and have been a customer of the prisoner's since he commenced with Mr. More. On 26th Oct. I owed the Scottish Brewery 4l. 4s.; on which day the prisoner called, and I paid him 2l., and he wrote the first receipt to this bill (produced). which left a balance of 2l. 4s.—before he left, I found I had more money, and paid him 2l. more, the 4s. was for discount.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you know his character? A. Yes; I always found him honourable.

MR. PARNELL. A. Was that confined to receiving beer, and paying for it? A. Yes.

JOHN BROOKES . I am one of Mr. More's clerks. It is part of my duty to enter from this cash-book, but I do not keep it, Punt has charge of it—it was the prisoner's duty to account to me when I was in the way, or he might account to Punt—on 17th Sept. here are four entries, one of which is in my writing—the prisoner did not account to me on that day for 4l. 18s., received from Jenkins; or on 26th Oct. for 4l., or two sums of 2l., received from Mr. Trow.

Cross-examined. Q. Who keeps that book? A. Mr. Punt casts it up, it is always lying on the desk—it is the duty of the out-door clerk, when paying money, to write it in the book; I look on and receive the money—I do not do anything with the book—I should not make any tick—sometimes I make entries in the book, but very rarely; I am not always there—there are four in-door clerks at liberty to receive money, one of whom ought always to be there when the place is open—there is another book, the draymens', in which any money received by the prisoner on private accounts is entered—it is here—about Sept. the prisoner made out a memorandum, and required the account to be made up; there has been no settlement since.

MR. PARNELL. Q. Are Jenkins and Trow, both beer-sellers? A. Yes; this other book has been examined, and no entry found there—I have been through the books, and find he has done not quite 300l.—he was

given in custody on 5th Nov.; he had not then been at the brewery for a week or ten days—he had given no notice of his going away—he generally came once a week.

JAMES PUNT . I am an in-door clerk at Mr. More's. It was my duty at times to receive money from the prisoner—he has not accounted to me for 4l. 18s. received of Mr. Jenkins, on 17th Sept., or 4l. received of Mr. Trow, on 26th Oct.

JOHN ROGERS . I am one of Mr. More's clerks. This entry in the cash-book, on 17th Sept., "Lee, 12l. 12s." is in my writing—I made it by Mr. More's direction; the prisoner was not present—he has not accounted to me for 4l. 18s. received of Mr. Jenkins on 17th Sept., or 4l. on 26th Oct. from Mr. Trow.

HENRY DAVISON . I am one of Mr. More's clerks. The prisoner has not accounted to me for 4l. 18s., received of Mr. Jenkins on 17th Sept., or two sums of 2l. of Mr. Trow, on 26th Oct.

JOHN ARCHER (policeman, G 217). I took the prisoner at a beer-shop on Bow common, and told him it was on a charge of embezzling money of his master—he said he thought Mr. More was rather hasty.

Cross-examined. Q. What beer-shop was it? A. Mr. Low's, where I understood the pony had been bought, it was standing there at the time—the said Mr. More and he had not come to any settlement since last Aug., land Mr. More could not think he could go about getting business without spending money—(Part of the agreement was read as follows: "The said William Peter Mills undertakes to pay all money he may receive to the cashier at the brewery within two days after he has received the same.")


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-110
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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110. WILLIAM PETER MILLS was again indicted for embezzling 1l. 14s.,—15s., and 15s.; the moneys of Robert More, his master.

MR. PARNELL conducted the Prosecution.

ROBERT MORE . I think this writing (looking at a book) is the prisoner's—he has not accounted to me for 1l. 14s. received from Mr. Basford on 2nd Aug., or for 15s. received from Mr. Gray on 17th Sept.

Cross-examined by MR. CHARNOCK. Q. What book is that? A. It is kept by the drayman—I do not know the meaning of this entry, "10 Aug. Gray, 16s.; 1s. off—15s."—I will not be sure whose writing it is.

JOHN BROOKES . This book is what the private trade drayman enters beer in, and in which the prisoner enters money he receives on account of the private trade—I do not find in it any entry of 15s. received on 17th Sept., of Mr. Gray—I do not find any entry of 1l. 14s. on 2nd Aug., of Mr. Basford; that would not be in this book—I find entries in the prisoner's writing as late as 26th Oct., but not later—that entry being there, he. must have been at the brewery on 26th Oct., and it would be his duty to enter in this book all money received on account of the private trade—it would be his duty to see entered, or enter in the cash-book, all money received for the public trade—there is no entry in the cash-book of the 1l. 14s.—he has not accounted to me for either of the sums.

Cross-examined. Q. What is that little book? A. When the dray-man returns from his round, he enters in it all beer he has delivered—the prisoner ought to enter the money in it, and give the money to one of us

four—the book is kept in the counting-house—the drayman does not take it out.

COURT. Q. Can you tell the first time he accounted, after 17th Sept., for money received in the private trade? A. 1st Oct.—he accounted for 4s. 6d., but he does not put down when the money was received—the next is 19th Oct.; 1l. 7s. from Wood, 1l. 10s. from Mowatt, and 1l. 16s. from Foster—on the 26th there are five entries, amounting to 2l. 10s. 6d.—in the cash-book, in his own writing, he accounts for 9l. 10s. paid by Mr. Lee on the public trade—the entry is for 10l., 10s. discount—there are three amounts of the same date, in Mr. Punt's writing—they do not relate to the public trade—they are all copied into this book—there are very few entries, in proportion, made by the in-door clerk to what there are by the collecting clerk.

JAMES PUNT . I am a clerk, in Mr. More's employ. The prisoner has not accounted to me for 1l. 14s. received from Mr. Basford on 2nd Aug., or 15s. on 17th Sept., from Mr. Gray—on 7th Aug., I find an entry of 10l., 10s. discount, in the prisoner's writing—there are also three entries in my writing, which I copied from these entries in the smaller book, in the prisoner's writing, and received the money, by which I am able to say he was at the counting-house that day, and accounted for those sums, but not for 1l. 14s.—he had no business to pay money without seeing it entered, or making the entry himself—there is an entry on 21st. Sept. in the small book, in his writing, by which I am able to say he was at the counting-house that day—he did not account for 15s. received from Mr. Gray—the entry is in the public trade, but the 15s. is private trade.

Cross-examined. Q. How many times did he come between 2nd Aug. and 17th Sept.? A. I think about once a week—he was generally there on Saturday morning, it was sometimes a little longer—he was there about twelve times between 2nd Aug. and 26th Sept.

JOHN ROGERS . The prisoner has not accounted to me for 1l. 14s. received on 2nd Aug. from Mr. Basford; or 15s. on 17th Sept., from Mr. Gray—I do not know whether the prisoner had a book of his own, in which he entered the sums be received, but it is usual for collecting clerks to have them.

HENRY DAVISON . I am clerk to Mr. More. The prisoner has not accounted to me for either of these sums.

GEORGE BASFORD . I live at Southgate. On 2nd Aug. I paid the prisoner 1l. 14s. for a barrel of ale from Mr. More's brewery, and he gave me this receipt (produced)—it is the only transaction I have had with Mr. More.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you a customer of More's? A. Only on that occasion—I went to him through the prisoner, who I have known six or seven years—he is an upright, honourable, good man.

MR. PARNELL. Q. Did you know him at Charrington's? A. Yes; he left there at the beginning of the year—I was not his security there.

DANIEL RAWSON GRAY . I live in the Whitechapel-road. About 17th Sept. I paid the prisoner 15s., on account of Mr. More, for beer—he gave me this receipt(produced).

Cross-examined. Q. Were you a customer of the prisoner's? A. I went to Mr. More, in consequence of him—the beer is brought by the dray, and the drayman delivers me an account from More's; and when the pay day comes round, the prisoner calls for the money.


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-111
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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111. MARY O'DONNELL , stealing 3 spoons, 1 pencil-case, 2 books, 1 mug, and other articles, value 1l. 4s. 10d.; the property of Thomas Alfred Young, her master.

MR. PLATT conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM CARTER . I am a pawnbroker, at 19, Regent street, West-minster. On 14th Oct. the prisoner came and offered me a silver watch and chain in pledge—she asked how much I could lend her, and I offered 1l. 3s. on them—she said that was not enough, and I returned them to her she then produced a paper parcel containing a silver table-spoon, fork, and three tea-spoons—I examined, and found there were marks on them partially erased—I asked her her name and address, and she gave "Catherine Dixon, staying at 8, Laundry-yard"—I asked whether the articles were her own; she said they were—I asked how long she had had them; she said about twelve months—I asked how she came by them; she said she had bought them—I asked who of, and she said she did not know—I asked what she gave for them—she said she did not know—I said, "It is strange if you bought them you do not know who you bought them of, and what you gave for them;" she then said, "The fact is, they were left to me"—I said I must know something more about them—she asked for them back, and I refused to part with them till I made inquiry—I turned to some other customer, and when I turned back the prisoner was gone—she took the watch away with her—this (produced) is it—this chain (produced) is similar to what she brought—I gave the spoons to the police.

Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. Did you ever see the prisoner before? A. No; she came into one of the little boxes—I swear she is the person—this was on Monday, and I saw her again in custody on the Friday—she was pointed out to me by the policeman—I wrote the address on a slip of paper, it wore out in my pocket, and this one (produced) I made on the following day from the original—I recollect, independent of the paper, that was the address she gave—I kept the paper with the marks on the spoons on it.

JOHN CUTTING (policeman, B 235). In consequence of information, I found the prisoner on board the Staha Marse emigrant ship, in the London Docks, bound for New York—she gave me her keys—I searched her box and found three brooches, one pencil-case, a pair of scissors, two small books, nine towels, an inkstand, two parasols, four silk aprons, a china mug, and a variety of articles—I believe that I saw the prisoner on the night of 14th in Laundry yard.

CHARLES FRAZER (Thames-policeman, 73) went on board this vessel and got the master to muster all the passengers on deck, and went forward and found the prisoner in the coal-hole, close to the coals—I said, "What are you doing?"—she said she was very poorly—I said, "You must come out of that, that is no place for passengers, and I believe you are wanted on deck"—I gave her into custody.

ELIZA JOHNSON . I am female-searcher at the Westminster police-station—I searched the prisoner on 18th Oct., and found on her the watch and guard-chain, five or six keys, and on them a little locket.

THOMAS ALFRED YOUNG . I am a licensed victualler, and keep the Prince of Wales, Sloane-street, Chelsea. The prisoner was in my service from the beginning of April till the end of Aug.—while she was there I missed considerable property—I missed some spoons, and recognise these

three as mine; the other two I think are mine, but the initials have been erased—they resemble the one I lost, except the mark; I believe they are mine—this book has my daughter's writing in it—this sampler I swear to distinctly, and the locket and brooch—the scissors I identify, they fit this case of instruments (produced)—I have the fellow bracelet to this one—the pencil-case is my wife's, and this mug is my little boy's, I brought it from Shrewsbury—the parasols are my late wife's.

Cross-examined. Q. Your wife is not here? A. No; nor my daughter.

The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate was here read: "On Monday week as I was down at the vessel I met a young woman who said she wanted to speak to me; I told her I was going to pawn my watch, and she came down to Regent-street, and said I had better take a parcel for her too; I went into a shop to buy some caps and stockings, and she said she would wait till I came back; I took the parcel, not knowing what it was; I came to the pawnbroker's and offered my own watch; he did not offer enough, and I gave him the parcel, not knowing what was in it till he opened it; he asked if it was mine; I said I was sent with it to pawn; he examined it, kept it a long time; I asked if he was going to let me have it; he said, No; if I came the following day he would—it contained spoons and forks; I came out and could not find the woman till she came to the vessel at night, and she said she would send her sister the next morning. On the Wednesday I heard the police were after me, and on the Friday I was apprehended; these things were never in Mr. Young's house."

GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Three Months .

OLD COURT.—Monday, December 2nd, 1850.


Before Mr. Recorder and the Third Jury.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-112
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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112. HENRY COTTERELL , feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Radford Parkworth, and stealing 1 gown, 1 coat, and other articles, value 38; the goods of Mary Elizabeth Cotterell; having been before convicted.

MARY ELIZABETH COTTERELL . I am a widow, and lodge on the ground-floor, at 6, Craven-buildings, in the house of Mr. Radford Parkworth, in St. Clement's parish; the prisoner is my step son, I left my room on Thursday evening, 7th Nov., about seven o'clock—I locked the door—the window opens into the street area; that was shut down and wedged—I was out the whole of that night—I came home about half-past eleven in the morning—I then found the window unwedged, but shut down—there was a square of glass which had been broken before, through which a person could get their hand and reach the wedge—I saw a dirty footmark on some publications which were lying on a chair—I looked about and found that my late husband's clothes were gone from a portmanteau under the bed—I also missed a black dress of my own, which had been hanging up in the room the night before, and also the key of the street-door from the mantel-piece; two handkerchiefs, five collars, and a card plate, from the table-drawer, which broken open.

JAMES ROSS (policeman) I took the prisoner in custody, in Fleet-street, on 8th Nov.—he had this waistcoat on, this coat and waistcoat under his arm, these collars in his pocket, this handkerchief, and these braces—I got this dress from Mrs. Willis.

CATHERINE WILLIS . I am the wife of James Willis, who keeps the Coach and Horses, in Water-lane. On Thursday evening, 7th Nov., the prisoner came there between eight and nine, and asked me to buy this dress—I told him I was not in want of a dress, that I had been out and bought mourning that day—he asked me if I would give him half a sovreign for it, as he had no money—he said he had bought it to make a present to a friend; that he had come from the country to get it out of pledge for seven shillings, to save it from being lost—I gave him eight shillings for it—I gave it to the policeman the next day.

Prisoner. I never sold the dress; it was another man. Witness. There was another man with him, but I bought the dress of the prisoner.

MARY ELIZABETH COTTERELL re-examined. This is the dress I missed, and these other things are mine.

Prisoner. My father left me the clothes; months before he died he told me I should have certain things of his; they were in a portmanteau of mine. Witness. It was his own portmanteau; it had been in my possession a long time; there was nothing of his in it—he did not live in the house—I had put the clothes by, only three days before my husband died—I had promised to give the clothes, and told him to come for them at six or seven o'clock, but he did not—he also stole the will which proved that everything belonged to me—my husband never gave him anything, he was such a reckless youth—all these things had belonged to my husband, except this dress.

WILLIAM DONALDSON . I produce a certificate—(read— James Henry Cotterell, convicted May, 1649, of larceny; confined six months)—I was present at the trial—the prisoner is the person; he has also been in the Compter for three weeks, for stealing a bagatelle-board, and had only come out the very day he committed this robbery.

GUILTY . Aged 24.— Transported for Ten Years .

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-113
VerdictsNot Guilty > unknown; Not Guilty > no evidence

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113. JAMES THOMPSON , feloniously uttering a forged request for the delivery of eight quarts of porter; with intent to defraud John Moy.

MR. EWART conducted the Prosecution,

JOHN MOY . I keep the Royal Standard public-house, in Vauxhall bridge road. On 8th Nov. the prisoner brought me an order—I believe this to be it—(read—"Please to let the bearer have 8 pots to George Bugbee")—I was in the habit of delivering beer on the ticket or order of George Bugbird—I do not properly know his name, but I know him—I was induced to let the prisoner have the beer, under the belief that this was a genuine document of Mr. Bugbird's—this is the ordinary form of request upon which I deliver beer to him.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Is he a customer of yours? A. Yes; I do not know how he spells his name—he is the foreman of some works in the neighbourhood—I have no doubt of the prisoner being the man that brought this; I had never seen him before—when he gave it me I had the can brought to me, and drew the beer—that was all that passed

—I asked him no questions, and he said nothing to me—he gave me no explanation of the paper—I have not got any of Mr. Bugbird's orders here; we destroy them at the week's end, when the money is paid.

MR. PARRY submitted, that the instrument in question was not a request within the meaning of the statute, not being addressed to any one; and stated that a similar objection arose in Rex v. Cullen, 5 Car & Payne, 116, and was held by the fifteen judges to be a good objection. The RECORDER, upon the authority of a more recent decision, in Rex v. Carney. 1 Moody's Crown Cases, held that the request need not of necessity be addressed to any particular person.

GEORGE BUGBIRD . I am foreman to the contractors of the Westminster Improvement Company, and live at 77, Great Peter street, Westminster. This ticket is not in my hand-writing—I am in the habit of sending tickets for beer for the use of the workmen, but not similar to this; those I send are a deal different to this, a different hand-writing altogether—I did not authorise the prisoner to get any beer for me on that day; I know him—he has been employed under me—I have on former occasions sent him to Mr. Moy's for beer—I did not receive any porter from the prisoner on that day; he was not in my employ that day, he was discharged, and I had paid him his money the day before, I believe.

Cross-examined. Q. That is not at all like your hand-writing? A. No, it is not—I have sent many orders to Mr. Moy; I should think he would know my hand-writing—(the witness here wrote one of his usual orders, but MR. PARRY declining to use it as his evidence, it was not read)—I write mine in pencil—I always address my orders to Mr. Moy—I have about thirty-six men under me—when I give a man an order, he frequently hands it to another to go for it, and sometimes it may probably be handed to a third person—in the ordinary course a person might have given the prisoner one of these tickets to go to Mr. Moy with—I do not know whether the prisoner can read or write; I do not think he can—I paid Mr. Moy on the Saturday for this beer in the general account, and disputed it afterwards.

COURT. Q. How long was he in your employment? A. A fortnight, but I have known him four years—he bore an honest character—he was very liberal in treating persons, and came to me almost every day for orders for beer, which I gave him—I sometimes gave them on paper similar to this, and sometimes not; anything I happened to have with me—eight pots is not an unusual quantity to send for.

WILLIAM ABSALOM . I am waiter to Mr. Moy. On 8th Nov. I saw the prisoner bring a ticket for the delivery of beer, which was given him—I am sure he is the man.

GEORGE EVEREST (policeman, B 76). The prisoner was given into my custody by Mr. Moy, on 11th Nov.—I told him he was charged with stealing the can and pot, and likewise forging eight pots of beer—he said he was not the man—(the prisoner's statement before the Magistrate was read as follows: "I am not the man who had it; I know nothing at all about it").

JOHN MOY re-examined. The pot and can have been returned to me.


(There was another indictment against the prisoner for stealing the pot and can, upon which no evidence was offered )

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-114
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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114. SARAH ERWOOD and ANN WRIGHT , feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Henry Erwood, and stealing three boxes, 4 shawls, 4 gowns, and a variety of articles, value 10l.; his property.

MR. PAYNE conducted the Prosecution.

MARIA ERWOOD . I am the wife of Henry Erwood, of 3, Tottenham street, Kingsland, in the parish of Hackney. The prisoner Erwood is my daughter, she is nineteen years old; she lived with me. On Monday, 11th Nov. I went out about three o'clock in the afternoon, leaving no one in the house—I locked the first-floor front room—on my return I let myself in, I had taken the key of the street-door with me—I found the door of the front room upstairs burst open, and three boxes were gone, which I had left in that room when I went out—they were locked, and contained four gowns, two bonnets, eighteen handkerchiefs, four shawls, a table-cover, a sheet, a parasol, a necklace, five petticoats, two bed-gowns, three nightcaps, some Orleans stuff, a shift, some aprons, and other articles—I do not know Wright—my daughter had slept in the house the night before—she did not come home that night; I had not seen her since nine in the morning—next day I saw both the prisoners in custody at a coffee-shop in the Harrow-road—I went with the officer, and when I entered the room, I said, "Dear me, Sarah, what have you done with my things?"—she said "The officer has got them"—the value of the property I lost was 10l.

GEORGE LANGDON ( policeman, N 27). On 12th Nov., in consequence of information, I went to a coffee-shop in Warwick-place, Harrow-road, and apprehended the prisoners—they were together—they were alone in the passage when the door was opened; there was no man with them—I told Erwood she was charged with robbing her mother of three boxes, and a great deal of property—she said, "It is all right, come upstairs"—I went upstairs, and she showed me three boxes, and said, that was her mother's property—I asked Wright if she was the female that came from Kingsland with Erwood—she said she was sorry to say she was—she then took this guard, two keys, and a bead-necklace, and threw it from her person on to the bed—the keys do not open either of the boxes—I took the prisoners and the boxes to the station—I produce two duplicates which Erwood gave me in the bedroom, at the coffee-shop—they are for three gowns and a whittle, and seven yards of Orleans cloth—the boxes were opened at the station, and all these things were found in them—(producing them).

WILLIAM MILES (policeman, N 273). I went with Langdon; after he was gone I saw Wright untie these two petticoats from under her frock; they dropped down—she said that she was out looking for a situation when she met Erwood, and she asked her to go with her to the Great Western Railway; she said she knew not at the time that she had robbed her mother—Erwood upon that said, "I told you that, when I stopped at Hackney, I pledged my mother's clothes"—Wright made no answer, but cried very much.

HAORRIETT KEMP . I am the wife of a policeman, and am a searcher at the Kingsland station. On Tuesday, 12th Nov., I searched Wright, and found on her two petticoats, and a pocket-handkerchief, which have been identified—she said she had them from the prisoner Erwood, who told her they were her's—she had on two of her own petticoats besides these—these were underneath her own.

HENRY TATTERSALL . I am in the employment of Mr. Blizard, a pawnbroker, in the Harrow-road. I produce a piece of Orleans cloth, pledged on 12th Nov., about nine in the morning, in the name of Wright—this (produced) is the duplicate I gave—both the prisoners came with it; I think Erwood produced the stuff, but I am not positive.

EDWARD JAMES JONES . I am in the service of Mr. Fish, a pawnbroker, in Church-street, Hackney. I produce three gowns, a whittle, a shift, and two aprons, pledged by Erwood, on 11th Nov., in the evening part—she was alone—this is the duplicate I gave (produced).

JOSEPH EVANS . I am a cab-driver, and live at 40, New Gloucester-street, Hoxton. On Monday, 11th Nov., about two o'clock in the day, I was on the stand, at Kingsland—the prisoners came to me, and I made an agreement with Erwood to take her and three boxes to the Great Western Railway for 4s.—she told me to go to 3, Tottenham-street, in an hour's time—they then left—in about two minutes Wright came back, and told me to go directly—I asked her if she would ride to the house—she said, 'No"—I went direct to Tottenham-street, and she went a contrary way—when I got to No. 3, Erwood was coming out of the house—she beckoned me to the door, and asked me to go upstairs and fetch the boxes down—I fetched down three boxes and a bonnet-box, and put them on the cab—she then got into the cab, and told me to go to the back of the Bull, Kingsland—when I had got about 100 yards from Tottenham-street, she pulled me up, and Wright got into the cab—I then drove to a private house at the back of the Bull, a tailor's I think—Erwood told me to drive there—they both got out there, and went into that house, and asked me to take the luggage in, which I did—Erwood afterwards called me in, and said that she had left her keys, and would I break one of the boxes open, as she wanted something out of it—I did so—she then said that she supposed she must have placed what she wanted in the other box, and asked me to break that open—I did so, and then went and stood by my cab for about five minutes—Erwood then ordered me to put the luggage on the cab again, and said she wanted to go to Church-street, Hackney—I told her that my fare would be 6s. if I took her from there to the Great Western Railway—I took her to Church-street, near the railway-arch—she then took a bundle out of the cab, and was gone about ten minutes—she left Wright in the cab—Erwood left without the bundle, got into the cab again, and told me to drive to the Great Western Railway—I took the luggage off there, and she paid me, and I left them there, talking to one of the railway-porters—while I was waiting at Hackney, Wright asked me if I was coming back to Kingsland stand, and would I bring her back as far as I was coming—I said I was uncertain what rank I should put on.

MARIA ERWOOD re-examined. Q. The property produced is all mine, and was in the boxes when I went out on the Monday—none of these things belong to my daughter; she had not been in the habit of wearing any of them—the four petticoats found on Wright are mine, and are my working—this handkerchief also is mine—my daughter must have got into the house by going through the next door, and then got through the window of the back room, which I had left half-open—I found it in the same state when I returned—the box of the lock of the upstairs room was burst off—it was a pretty strong lock.

Erwood's Defence. Wright is quite innocent of it; she did not know at the time that I had robbed my mother; I merely asked her to go for a ride; I asked the cab man if he would bring her back, and he said he would, but when we turned round he was gone; she staid and slept with me that night, and she was just getting on her things to go home when we were taken into custody; my father has given me the privilege at any time when my mother was out, to open any door—I did not get through the window; I went in at the next door, and asked the lady's permission to get in that way, and I did so; the back door was unfastened; I went through, and opened the street door, and my friend came in; the lock of the upstairs room was a very paltry one; I only turned the handle, and gave it a push, and it came open.

Wright's Defence. I was out, looking after a place, and she asked me to go with her, and I went; I had not seen her for a long time; she said she was going to her grandmother's, in the country, that she had had a letter, and her mother would not let her go, and these were all her own things that she had got, all she had belonging to her mother was the box; I told her not to take her mother's box, that 1s. or 18d. would do to get one, to put her things in, but she said her mother would not mind.

(Mrs. Ann Trickey, of 3, Charles-place, Kingsland-road, gave Wright a good character up to three years ago.)

ERWOOD— GUILTY.* Aged 18.— Transported for Seven Years.


(The prosecutrix stated that her daughter had been previously in custody for stealing a half-sovereign from her mistress, and that her general conduct was very bad.)

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-115
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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115. CORNELIUS DENHAR and WILLIAM DANIEL were indicted for unlawfully conspiring to defraud John Wolsey and others.

MR. PARNELL conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN WOLSEY . I am servant to Mr. Martin, of 5, Whitehall-gardens. On 25th Oct. I saw Daniel, who was acting as time-keeper to a lot of men repairing the sewers in Whitehall-gardens—I spoke to him about a dog of my master's, which I had lost—he made an appointment to meet me at a quarter to nine o'clock that evening, at the Swan Tavern, by Westminster-bridge—I went there, and he came in about ten minutes to nine—in about a quarter of an hour Denhar came in—he had 6d. -worth of brandy and water; I had some of it; and then he and Daniel tossed with regular money for another 6d.-worth, and then for another—it was brought, and I certainly put my lips to it—after that Daniel wanted me to put his watch and mine down, and 5s., which I had got to pay for the feed of my dog, for 10l.—Denhar was to put down the other 10l.—I then became insensible, and cannot say whether I agreed to it or not—when I came to myself, I found I had lost the 5s. and my watch—I was then at the Swan, and the prisoners were still there—they told me to keep quiet—I said I should like to redeem my watch again—they offered if I gave them 3l. 10s., that I should have it back again—that was about twenty minutes to ten the same evening—I must have been insensible about ten minutes—I was very stupid—I had not drunk anything besides a little spirits and water—I gave the prisoners my address—Daniel said he was a total stranger to Denhar, and he promised faithfully that he would seek after the watch,

and meet me at the Horse Guards at eleven in the morning—I said, "You know where I live; and if you redeem my watch, I will give you 3l. 10s."—he was to redeem his own watch and mine too—he never brought me my watch—I never saw either of them again till they were in custody (looking at a halfpenny with a copper cap to it)—I cannot say whether I saw anything of this in the course of the evening—I thought they tossed with the same coin as I did, a common penny—I could not swear it was this.

Cross-examined by MR. WOOLLETT. Q. Are you quite sensible to-day? A. I am as usual; that may be very green—I remember all the conversation that passed perfectly well; I did not put it down, I kept it in my head—there were four persons at the Swan—I made no complaint till next day, because I thought Daniel was an honest person—I never tossed before, except when a child at school—I keep memorandums in a penny book; I tore it up before I came here—I have not had a drop to-day yet—I generally begin as soon as I can get it—I had not begun very early on the day in question; I had not a chance; I had other business to attend to.

COURT. Q.Are you still in Mr. Martin's service? A.I am, as valet—I have not been drinking—I am asthmatic.

JOHN HARRIS . I am a painter, and live at Pimlico. On Saturday, 2nd Nov., I was in New-street, Covent-garden, looking in at a painter's shop—Daniel came up to me, and said something about the bill that was in the window—I answered him, and he said he had been waiting there ever so long to see a person about some work—I walked with him through Covent-garden market, and down Long-acre, St. Martin's-lane, and Pall-mall—he asked me to come in and have something to drink at a public-house at the corner of St. James's-square—we went in—he called for a pint of ale, and I drank with him—while we were there, a man came in, who pretended to be a German—he told me he was a German, and he appeared to be one—it was not Denhar—he said something to us about two fine geese which hung up in the bar, and said he had been out on the spree all night, and wanted something to eat—this was between twelve and one o'clock—he did not appear to be acquainted with Daniel—Daniel said to him, "I am going out, and I will show you a place where you can go and get something to eat"—he said he had only just come to town, and did not know where to go—I went out with them—I forget the name of the street they went to; it was somewhere towards Rupert-street, I believe—they went into a public-house there, and I drank the share of a pot of ale with them—the German called for it; and Daniel directly said to him, "I will toss you who shall pay for it, and I will bet you 1s. I beat you"—they tossed with this capped penny (looking at it)—I did not know at that time that it was capped—Daniel won several times, each time he tossed—they then went on tossing for 18d., half-a-crown, and so on—after the German had lost several times, he went out; and while he was out Daniel showed me this capped penny, and said, "See here, I am sure to beat him every time"—the cap has the king's head on it, and the halfpenny it fits upon has both a head and tail, so that you may have a head on both sides if you like—the German came back, and they tossed again with the same thing-Daniel still won—he wanted me to bet on the game—I would not, and he asked me for the loan of some money—I told

him I had not' got any—he persuaded me, by some means or other, to go and pawn my watch—I pawned it for 15s., which I gave him, and he went on tossing with it, making up 2l.; and then the German won for the first time—they did not stop a minute after that—they promised to give me the 15s. back again—Daniel proposed to meet me in St. Martin's-lane on the following Saturday—he did not mention the Welsh Harp, but the German proposed to meet me there—I went, and there saw Denhar, the German, and two more, but not Daniel—it was at the Welsh Harp public-house, close to the Adelaide Gallery—there was no tossing going on there—I did not stay—I promised to go home and fetch some money for them—I had told them, previous to the German coming, that I had no money with me—Denhar did not ask me anything about money; the other two did, and I went away, pretending to go for it, and went to Scot-land-yard, to the police.

Cross-examined. Q. You say that by some means or other they induced you to pawn your watch; did they threaten you? A. No; I did not toss at all—I did not know them before—I promised to lend them money, and went out for that purpose, but I do not think I knew what I was about—I do not know whether they had been doing something to me—I knew what I was about on the second occasion—I went to the public-house on business—I expected to see Daniel, to give him in charge—I was not at the public-house three minutes—I am out of work now; I have been so five weeks—I worked last for Mr. Power, a painter, at Pimlico, for nearly three months, and before that for Mr. Ingersole, of Bayswater—before that I was poorly for four or five weeks—I have got a little money, and I have friends.

COURT. Q. You say you do not think you knew what you were about; what do you mean by that? A. I felt stupified, so that I did not know what I was about, and I was ill the whole of the afternoon afterwards—as soon as they got my money they went away.

WILLIAM PERKINS . I am a shoemaker, of John-street, Portland-town. On 11th Nov. I was in Oxford-street, looking at a blind man reading with his fingers—Daniel was there, and asked me if I thought the man was not shamming—I said I thought not, and went on, and he kept up with me, talking—he gave the man a halfpenny—I went with him to a public-house in Edward-street—he called for a pint of porter—in about ten minutes Denhar came in—they appeared to be strangers to each other—Denhar was talking to the landlord about Feargus O'Connor and Ireland—he then began to talk to Daniel and me about it—I said I must go—they began quarrelling about Ireland—I left, but they kept in my company, and the quarrel lasted all the way to Leicester-square—I went into a gin-shop at the corner of Leicester-square with them, and drank two glasses of gin with them, which Denhar called for and paid for—they then began to toss for 6d.—Denhar won—they tossed eight or a dozen times for six-pences and shillings—Daniel won every time—I staid there half an hour—I did not toss—we left, and went to another public-house kept by Mr. Slade—Daniel asked me if I would put my watch down for 5l.—Denhar could hear it—Daniel showed me two penny-pieces, and said he could not lose with them, as he had won every time—I said I would not give him the watch; but he said, "If you lose I will give you 5l.," and I put it down on the table—Denhar said it was not worth 5l., and I

must put down some money as well—I put down two half-crowns—Daniel put the watch and money into a white bag, and put it into his pocket—they then tossed, and Denhar won—that was the first time he had won—Daniel asked him if I would write an "I O U" for 5l. if he gave the watch back—Denhar said, "Yes"—Daniel called for pen and ink—I wrote something, and left it on the table—I then went down-stairs into the water-closet, as I had felt ill all the morning, and almost tipsy—when I came back, the prisoners, and my watch and "I O U" were gone—I had had two glasses of gin and some porter—I felt tipsy directly I went to the last public-house.

Cross-examined. Q. Are you in the habit of drinking gin? A. No; I have not got my watch back—I thought Daniel would not lose, on the principle of luck, as he had won each time.

WILLIAM GOULD . I am a tailor, of Little Queen-street. On 11th Nov. about four o'clock in the afternoon, I was in the Strand—Daniel came up and spoke to me—I briefly answered him, and walked on—I perceived he was following me—he overtook me in the market, and asked me several times to have something to drink—I refused, but at last contented—we went into the Rising Sun—Denhar came in—we had some gin and cold water—they tossed for some cigars, Daniel won—in about ten minutes we all went away together—I was going home, but they asked me to go with them to another public-house—we went to the Duke of Wellington, Spring-gardens, and had some gin and cold water—they tossed who should pay for it; Daniel won—he asked if I had any money—I said, no—he wanted me to stake my watch for 5l. against Denhar, which I declined—he asked why I would not—I said, "I would rather put it into my pocket"—before that, he had showed me this penny with a cap over it, and said, "Look here! this is the way I do it; if you stake your watch for 5l. I shall be sure to win, and I will give you 2l. 10s. out of it"—Denhar had gone out of the room then—the gin and water stupified me—they asked me to have a walk with them—I was almost unconscious, and was persuaded to go—I had not drank more than half a glass of gin and water the whole time—we went down Spring-gardens to that part of the Park where the milk-stand is—my watch was in my pocket then—when I got to the milk-stand I became insensible—when I came to myself my watch was gone, and I was alone, but I saw the prisoners at a little distance, talking together—I went with them to the Shades at Charing-cross, where I pointed them out to the police.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you ever seen the prisoners before? A. No; I had never been with strangers in this way before—I have always said that—I refused to stake my watch every time they asked me—I was rather stupified in the public-house, but will swear I did not put down my watch, or any money—I sat on a corner of the bench in the Park, and became insensible—I did not fall down—my watch was found when the men were searched at the Shades—they told me at the Shades that if I would give them a copy of my handwriting they would return my watch—Denhar said that—I wrote something about "I O U," but I was not so precisely in my right senses as to know what it was—I gave a wrong name and address.

MR. PARNELL. Q. Did they give you your watch? A. No; the first "IOU" I wrote would not do, and I wrote another; it was for 2l.—

Denhar wrapped it up, and put it into his breast-pocket—I asked him for my watch—he said, "Wait a bit; you shall have it presently."

GEORGE HODGES (policeman, A 32). I went to the Shades, took Daniel, and gave him to another officer—I met Denhar in the passage, coming out, and took him—they both were taken into the parlour—I found on Denhar some coppers, two duplicates, three watches, ten counterfeit medals representing sovereigns and half-sovereigns, this capped penny, a George halfpenny, 17s. 6d., and these "IOUs" (produced)—a half-penny can be put inside this cap.

Cross-examined. Q. What is on that "I O U?" A. "I lost fairly."

WILLIAM PERKINS re-examined. This is my watch, and this is the "IOU" I wrote—Daniel told me what to write, and he altered something which I had done wrong.

Cross-examined. Q. It has a false name and address? A. Yes.

WILLIAM GOULD re-examined. This is my watch, and this is my "IOU"—I am not certain what name I gave—I was rather stupified, and wrote what Daniel told me—my name is Clifford William Gould, but I generally go by the name of William.



Before Mr. Recorder, and the First Jury.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-116
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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116. CORNELIUS DENHAR and WILLIAM DANIEL were again indicted for stealing 1 watch, value 3l.; the goods of Clifford William Gould.

CLIFFORD WILLIAM GOULD gave the same evidence as in the last case, ( See page 128,) as also did George Hodges.



Confined Fifteen Months .

NEW COURT.—Monday, December 2nd, 1850.


Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Third Jury.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-117
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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117. THOMAS BELL , stealing 1 Bill of Exchange for 27l. 10s.; the goods of James Gibson, in his dwelling-house.

MESSRS. PLATT and HORRY conducted the Prosecution.

JAMES GIBSON . I live at 10, Little Russell-street, and am a pastry-cook. I drew a bill of 27l. 10s. on Mr. Thompson, of Leadenhall-street—it was dated 4th Oct.—I gave it to the prisoner on the night of 5th Nov., to show it to a party to get it cashed—if he could not get it cashed, he was to return it to me; I did not mention at what time—he came to my shop on the Wednesday morning, and went down to Mr. Thompson's to see whether it was right or not, and I went with him to 10, Leadenhall-street—when he came back, I asked him several times for the bill; he gave it me—I had got it in my hand at the table—he snatched it out of my hand, put it in his pocket, and ran away—I went after him, and asked him for it—he said he had the bill, he would not give it me—I followed him to a public-house in Bow-street—I heard him ask for the water-closet

—he went, and came back in about two minutes—I again asked him for the bill; he refused to give it me—I told him I would give him in charge—I have a copy of it here (produced)—it was payable three months after date, and was upon a 2s. 6d. stamp—I endorsed the original when I gave it to him—it was endorsed by the name of Perring after my name.

HENRY PERRING . I live in Great Smith-street, Westminster. I know Mr. Gibson—on Tuesday evening, Nov. 5th, he showed me a bill for 27l. 10s. on Mr. Thompson, Leadenhall-street—this is a copy of it—it was endorsed by him and by me—the next time I saw it was in Mr. Thompson's bakehouse, in Leadenhall-street; it was in the prisoner's hand—I was to meet the prisoner at ten o'clock that morning, at Mr. Gibson's—he was standing waiting for Mr. Gibson—he was not at home—I went out—when I returned, the prisoner was gone: he had left word he would be back as soon as he could—I afterwards went with the prisoner at his request and Mr. Gibson's, to Mr. Thompson, to see if the acceptance was right—the prisoner went down into the bakehouse, and produced the bill to Mr. Thompson—he asked him if that was his signature to the bill—Mr. Thompson said it was—Mr. Gibson, the prisoner, I and another witness then left Mr. Thompson's—when we returned, I heard Mr. Gibson say that the prisoner had got these bill—he left, and went to a public-house; Mr. Gibson and 1 and the witness went after him—previous to that, I heard the prisoner say that the bill was at home, that he had not had it the whole of the day—I said, "What use is it your saying that, when I saw the bill in your possession at Mr. Thompson's?"—I saw the prisoner go towards the water-closet at the public-house, and Roberts returned in about a minute, after he had shown him the way—when the prisoner came back, Mr. Gibson said to him, "You had better give up that bill that you stole from me"—he said he had not got it; it was only a copy.

Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. What is your business? A. A carpenter and broker; I and my brother have a shop—we closed it about twelve months, but opened it again about seven months back—I endorsed this bill out of kindness; it was for no consideration—Mr. Gibson was the drawer of it, I think—I do not know much about these bills myself—(the witness was here requested to sign his name on a paper, which he did)—Mr. Thompson is a master baker; he is not here—the prisoner said he had a copy of the bill—I was with the prisoner the whole time, till he got back to Mr. Gibson's: we then went to the public-house—I do not know whether the bill was given to the prisoner to get discounted—I never put my hand to a bill before—on the Tuesday evening we had been drinking, but on Wednesday we were perfectly sober—we went to Mr. Thompson's about two o'clock—we were not drinking that day—I drank nothing but one pint of beer—Mr. Gibson appeared sober—I put my name on the bill on Tuesday, 5th Nov., the day before we went to Mr. Thompson—this copy was drawn from it on the 5th.

WILLIAM ROBERTS . I am a baker. I was before the Magistrate on this charge on the first occasion, but not on the second—my deposition was not taken—I did not see the bill in the prisoner's possession on 6th Nov.—I saw it on the Tuesday night—I know this is a copy of it—I went into the city with him, at Mr. Gibson's request—I did not go into Mr. Thopmson's—I waited for the prisoner, and came back with him—we were

all talking about the bill—the prisoner got in the cart, and Mr. Perring, Mr. Gibson, and I—when we returned, the prisoner said he had got the bill, but he would be d—d if he would give it up—he went to a public-house—he asked me which was the water-closet; I showed him—when he came back, Mr. Gibson asked him for the bill again, and he said he had not got it.

Cross-examined. Q. You were before the Magistrate? A. Yes; Mrs. Gibson was there—I did not hear the Magistrate say her statement and mine were so contradictory that he would not put it down—the prisoner said he had got the bill, and he would be d—d if he would give it up—I did not tell the Magistrate that; he did not ask me—I am not a friend of the prosecutor's; I do a little work for him.

MR. HORRY. Q. How was it you did not go on the second examination? A. I did not think I was wanted—I was not kept back by anybody; it was my own doing.

WILLIAM JACKSON (policeman, F 78). On the afternoon of 6th Nov., I saw the prisoner in Bow-street—he asked me to take him into custody, because a man wanted to charge him with stealing a bill—I took him into custody—I received this copy of a bill from Mr. Frost, a publican, in Bow-street.

MR. HORRY to MR. GIBSON. Q. Was this bill an accommodation bill, or did Mr. Thompson owe you the money? A. I let him the shop—he owed me 300l.—this was part of the payment—when he paid me the 300l. and interest, the shop was to be his.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you been in any difficulties? A. No more than I put my name to a bill once for 5l., and they sued roe for it—I did not get it discounted, but he did—I put my name to an accommodation bill for 25l. 10s. five or six years ago—I put Mr. Thompson into that shop on 5th March—he was my journeyman—he was to pay me 300l. and interest—my wife was examined before the Magistrate—I do not remember how many times I tried from 4th Oct. till 5th Nov. to get this bill discounted—I did not employ any persons to do it—I was once insolvent, and the parties took 5s. in the pound—the bill was lost that they sued me for—I did not receive any portion of the bill for 5l.—I have not heard of this bill since—I do not know what has become of it.

COURT. Q. Was the prisoner in your service at all? A. No; I gave him the bill to get cashed, but he stole it out of my hands afterwards.


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-118
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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118. SAMUEL RICHARDS , feloniously assaulting Findlay McKay, and cutting and wounding him, with intent to disfigure him.

FINDLAY MCKAY . I am a seaman. On 21st Nov. I was coming out of the Jolly Sailors public-house, in St. George's in the East—I met the prisoner; I had not known him before—he struck me, I do not know what with—I was not drunk; I do not know whether he was—nothing had taken place first—I walked on and he followed me, and stabbed me with a knife under my left eye—I was knocked stupid—I saw the shine of the knife coming, before I was struck—I gave the prisoner in charge.

ARCHIBALD BATCHELOR . I was with M'Kay, at the Jolly Sailors—when we came out, three coloured men were walking past the door—the prisoner was one—one of them laid hold of M'Kay, and the prisoner struck him

with his fist—they ran away—I went on with M'Kay—we saw them again—one of them gave M'Kay a drive in the middle of the road, and the prisoner struck him with a sheath knife—M'Kay had not done anything to him.

ROBERT FENN (police-sergeant, H 25). The prisoner was given into my custody by M'Kay—the prisoner admitted that he struck him, but not with the knife—this knife was found in the prisoner's pocket.

JOHN MOUNTFORD . I am house-surgeon at the London Hospital. M'Kay was brought there, and is a patient there still, but he is convalescent—I found an incised wound under his left eye—it was not dangerous —such a knife as this would have done it—almost any sharp-pointed knife might have done it.

Prisoner's Defence. I know very well I hit him in the face; I did not strike him with a knife; he came and struck me in the middle of the street; five or six ran against me; I had no knife but my penknife in my pocket; I gave him no occasion to strike me in the street for nothing at all.

MR. MOCNTFORD re-examined. This could not have been done without some sharp instrument—it could not have been done with a finger-nail.

GUILTY .— Confined Twelve Months .

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-119
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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119. WILLIAM GAY , breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Hugh Conor, and stealing 7 knives, and other articles, value 40s., 2 sovereigns and 10 shillings; his property.

MR. BIRNIE conducted the Prosecution.

MARGAREY CONNOR . I am the wife of Hugh Connor—we keep a house, No. 15, Tash-court, Gray's-inn-lane. On Michaelmas day I came home at a quarter before ten o'clock at night—I found my place had been broken open; two locks had been broken open—I had left the place locked about seven o'clock—I missed two boxes belonging to my husband—they contained 2l.-worth of silver and a half-sovereign, a dozen or a dozen and a half of buttons, knives and forks, and writing-paper, a steel purse, a bed-winch, a screw-driver, a roasting-jack, and other things—the boxes were in the back parlour—the prisoner was brought, in custody, on the 16th—I said to him, "You are the person that robbed us"—he said, "Yes"—I said, "How came you to rob me?"—he said, "How much money was there, 50s.?"—he described the things, but he said he had a brother over the water who would make it all good if we would not be hard upon him—the things were valued at 4l. 10s.—he said, "I should not have done it if it had not been for your son; I was told that you had money and a watch in the house."

GEORGE JOSEPH CONNOR . I am the son-in-law of Margaret Connor—I live with her. On Sunday, Michaelmas day, I came home a little before ten o'clock—I found the lock broken, and the door open—I found no one in.

ELIZA HATHERELL . I live in Tash-court. On Sunday evening, 29th Sept., about half-past eight o'clock, I saw the prisoner in Connor's passage—he said to me, "Go it, Eliza"—he had a piece of iron in his hand, a kind of half poker, with a point to it—I knew him by sight—I had seen him before.

THOMAS GUNSTON (police-sergeant, G 55). I took the prisoner on 16th Nov.—I told him what it was for—he said, "You are quite mistaken

in the person"—I took him to Mrs. Connor—she asked him how he came to rob her—he said, "I should not have done it, if I had not been put on by your son"—he said he hoped she would forgive him; she had children of her own, and he had a brother at Lambeth who would pay the amount—I asked him what he had done with the boxes—he said, "They are broken up."

Prisoner. Q. You said, "I have got him to rights," what did you mean by that, you never had me before? A. I never said so.

Prisoner's Defence. On the night of the robbery I went over to see my brother; he said he had no employ, and I came back; when I saw the policeman he said, "You have confessed to the robbery, and I shall take you;"—I always worked honestly for my living.

GUILTY.†Aged 19.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor.

Confined Twelve Months .

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-120
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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120. JAMES GILLIGAN and ENEAS MCALLEN , were indicted for a robbery on Peter Patrick Coghlan, and stealing a knife, vaule 6d., 2 half-crowns, and 4 shillings; his property.

PETER PATRICK COGHLAN . I live at Poplar. I was in a public-house in Wapping, on 21st Nov.—I was the worse for drink—the prisoners were there together—I did not know them before—I was there with them, to the best of my knowledge, about twenty minutes—I had 4l., and 5s. or 10s. loose in my right-hand trowsers pocket—I treated the prisoners, and then left—they followed me to the bottom of Gravel-lane—M'Allen attacked me, and put his hand in my right pocket—he had seen me take out some money at the public-house—I held his hand in my pocket and sung out, "Police!" and Gilligan came across the street—he caught hold of me in a rough sort of manner, and we all three fell together— M'Allen got his hand away from my pocket, and a lot of my money fell about the street from my pocket and his hand—two policemen came up—they took the prisoners—I picked up two or three shillings—this knife was found on one of them at the station, it belongs to me; it was in my right-hand trowsers pocket with the silver.

M'Allen. Q. Did not you state that you had a 5l.-note? A. No; I changed it, and drank from six o'clock till I met with you.

M'Allen. You were lying outside the public-house, and I said, "Don't let the man lie there, he will be taken up;" and you said, "If you will take me to Poplar I will pay you."Witness. No, I did not—I gave you a treat in the house to half a gallon of half-and-half to get rid of you—I did not treat you in King-street, to my knowledge—I did not go into another house and call for a pot of beer and not have money to pay for it—this took place on the pavement—I did not say it was on the iron grating.

ELIAS GORHAM (police-sergeant, K 70). On 21st Nov., between ten and eleven o'clock at night, I saw the prisoners and Coghlan struggling—I heard a cry; I went up, and they all three fell together—Coghlan was drunk; the prisoners were quite sober—they were both on Coghlan—they got up when they saw me—I saw some silver on the ground; I picked up 2s. 6d.—the prisoners began to pick up the money—they said Coghlan was drunk and fell down—he said, "They have robbed me, I give them

in charge"—I searched Gilligan, and found on him three shillings and this knife—one of the shillings was in between the blades of the knife.

ROBERT LUKE OLIVER (Thames-police-constable,31). I was walking down Old Gravel-lane—I heard a cry of "Police!" and saw three persons struggling—I ran across—before I got there, they were all standing up—I saw Oliver holding the prisoners—Gilligan dropped four shillings and two sixpences; I picked them up—I took M'Allen, and in going up Gravel-lane, I saw him chuck a shilling and a halfpenny upon an apple-stall—I found on him eleven shillings, a halfpenny, and a counterfeit shilling.

M'Allen. Q. Did that officer have hold of me when you came up? A. Yes, and you picked up a halfpenny, and the officer said, "Give me the halfpenny?"—you said, "No, I shan't," and I laid hold of you directly—you were on the iron and the kerb.

Gilligan's Defence. I was going down to Gold's-hill, Shadwell, and saw Coghlan lying on the pavement, with his face covered with mud, and a mob of people round; some said, "Don't let him lie there;" we picked him up, and took him on; he said, "Come along this way, I have got a friend lives here;" he crossed over Dock-hill, and when we got to Cooper's-bridge, he took out his money, and said, "I have got plenty of money here;" I said, "Put it in your pocket;" he put it between his pocket and his trowsers, and it fell down; I picked up some, and his knife, and he hallooed out "Police!" the policeman came, and he said I put my hand into his pocket; I offered him his knife, and he said he did not want it.

M'Allen's Defence. We saw the prosecutor outside the door; he could not stand; he said, "Take me to Poplar, I have got a friend there;" we took him round under a lamp, where there are hundreds of persons passing by; he was senseless drunk; he did not know what to say; he charged this young man with robbing him, and when we got to the station, he charged me; I am as innocent as any person that was not there.



Confined Twelve Months .

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-121
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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121. MARY ANN HODGE and CHARLOTTE MEADER , stealing 1 watch, value 5l.; and 1 watch-chain, 1l.; the goods of John Johnson.

JOHN JOHNSON . I live at Enfield. On Saturday night, 23rd Nov., I met Meader between ten and eleven o'clock, near King's-cross—I was not sober, but I knew what I was about—I went with her to 4, Paradise-court—Hodge was there—I went into a room on the first-floor with Meader, and gave Hodge a shilling to fetch a pot of ale—she brought the ale and the change into the bedroom, and stopped there—both the prisoners were in the room—I undressed and went to bed—I expected both the prisoners to come to bed, but I believe neither of them did—I fell asleep—I recollect winding up my watch before I went to bed, and I believe I put it under the pillow, or on a nail, I could not swear which—I think I awoke in a quarter of an hour: the prisoners were gone, and the watch also—I had a silver chain, and about 14s., which were gone—I dressed myself, and called a policeman—I went with him next morning to the same house, and saw the two prisoners, and they were taken—this is my watch and chain—I know the watch by the number—I have had it about six weeks.

Hodge. I asked you if I should remove the baby, and you said you were perfectly used to a child. Witness. I do not recollect seeing any baby; you assisted me up when I fell—I do not recollect any third female, or my giving the watch to pawn.

JAMES PLATTEN (policeman, G 57). About half-past eleven o'clock on Saturday night, 23rd Nov., I was called by Johnson into Paradise-court—next morning I went to the house, found Hodge in the front-parlour, and Meader up-stairs—she said she had not seen the prosecutor—she afterwards said he offered her the watch to sleep with her, and she knew nothing about the watch.

Meader. I said I had seen him, but I knew nothing about the watch.

THOMAS REEVES . I am a pawnbroker, in Gray's-inn-lane. I produce this watch and chain, which I took in of Hodge, in the name of Ann James, 16, Bath-street—I never saw her before, but I can swear to her—she said she required the money to pay a bill with—she got 2l. on it—she told where the watch was—the duplicate has not been found.

Hodge's Defence. I was called to take the watch to pawn for the gentleman to sleep with the two females; I said I would not go by myself, and one of the other two females, who was to sleep with the gentleman, went with me; when we got back, the gentleman was gone; he had told me to fetch him a pot of ale, which I did, and then he had no money, and gave his watch.

Meader's Defence. He went home with me and said he had no money; then the other female came and he said he would have both of us, and he gave his watch.

HODGE— GUILTY . Aged 32.


Confined Six Months .

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-122
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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122. WILLIAM STEVENS , feloniously being at large before the expiration of the term for which he had been transported: to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined Six Months and Transported for Seven


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-123
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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123. JOHN MCCARTHY , feloniously cutting and wounding Robert Backhouse, with intent to do him some grievous bodily harm.

MR. METCALFE conducted the Prosecution.

ROBERT BACKHOUSE (policeman, K 151). On the night of 30th Nov. I was attracted to a house in Robin-Hood-lane, Poplar, by cries of "Murder!" and "Police!"—I and serjeant Timpson went to the house—I saw a woman's head out of the window—she said, "For God's sake, policeman, don't go away; there will be murder done"—I said, "What is the matter?"—she said, "That man of mine," or words to that effect—directly the prisoner opened the door and rushed out with this short poker in his hand, and struck me three or four blows on my head, cheek, and temple—he said, "You are the b——r that had me before"(I had had him about two years and a half ago)—I became insensible—I did not draw my staff, or speak to him at all.

Cross-examined by MR. PLATT. Q. What sort of a neighbourhood is this? A. Very low—there are a good many Irish there and a good many rows—we did not go with our staves out—there was scarcely a soul in the

lane—the woman is the prisoner's wife—she did not say, "Go away; it is only a row"—she was in her night-dress; her upper part was naked— we heard the cries three or four times—I had a staff—the sergeant had his cutlass and truncheon—on my oath neither cutlass nor staves were drawn previous to my being struck; I cannot say what was done afterwards—there was no other policeman with us—I did not hear the prisoner inside, before the door was opened, saying it was only a drunken frolic—I heard a mingling of voices—it is a sort of lodging-house—I never demanded the door to be opened—I had only asked the woman what was the matter, and then the prisoner burst open the door—I think he must have heard what was said—it was about a quarter before twelve o'clock

JOHN TIMPSON (police-sergeant, K 25). On the night of 13th Nov. I went with Backhouse to 28, Robin-Hood-lane—we heard a woman calling, "For God's sake do not go away, there will be murder"—the prisoner and his brother came to the door—the prisoner said, "You b——r, you had me before"—the brother held my arms while the prisoner struck Back-house—I saw the prisoner take the iron out of his pocket and strike him—I got to him as soon as I could, and found him on the pavement bleeding very fast—I saw only one blow given, as I was grappled by the brother—nothing had been said to the prisoner before the blows were given.

Cross-examined. Q. What was said to the woman? A. Nothing by me—she did not say, "Do go away; it is only a quarrel between my husband and me"—the prisoner might have been drinking, but did not appear so to me—he is in the habit of quarrelling with his wife—when these cries came, I waited for the constable to come to the end of his beat, and we went down directly—I did not hear the prisoner say before he burst out of the house, "I merely quarrelled with my wife"—we did not beat at the door with our staves—we did not touch it—I took a cutlass with me; I always carry one when on duty at night—I swear nothing was done to the door—we did not say, "Come out"—I should say not two moments elapsed between our coming to the house and the door being opened—when he rushed out he seemed a little excited—we could see the woman up at the window—she showed no marks—the prisoner escaped at the time—he was taken by two constables—when he was taken I swear I did not use the cutlass, nor cut him with it—I was present when he was put in the cell—he made some resistance—he had marks on his arms—I did not see marks or cuts on him—I do not know of his being under the medical man's hands—Backhouse's staff was not taken out, to my knowledge.

ROBERT WESTFIELD (policeman, K 329). I came up when sergeant Timpson had got hold of the prisoner's brother—I went round and followed the prisoner over five yards—a brother constable who was with me got over first; the prisoner attacked him—the constable got his truncheon out, and the prisoner got it from him—he called to me; I threw the prisoner on the ground, and struck him more than once over the hands with my staff, to make him let go my brother officer's staff.

Cross-examined. Q. Are you sure you did not strike him anywhere else? A. I might have struck him over the arms, certainly not on the head—the sergeant came up—the cutlass was not made use of at all—when the prisoner was taken to the station there was some portion of blood on his clothes—he was not covered with blood—his shirt sleeves were covered with blood; the body of it was not—his trowsers were not

taken off in my sight—the only part that was taken off, was his shirt, which was torn out in his struggling—I saw no signs of his being in such a state that he required medical assistance; I do not know that he did—I saw the prisoner's wife—she made no complaints to me—she did not say it was a drunken frolic between her husband and herself—I know the prisoner—he is a man of violent habits—I have seen him the worse for liquor—he had been drinking on this occasion—it is a noisy neighbourhood now and then: it is not constantly so—the sergeant had a cutlass, but I did not see any cutlass drawn that night.

RONALD ROBERTSON . I am a surgeon. I examined Backhouse—I found over the left eye a contused wound an inch long, and half an inch deep, and on the forehead a wound of the same character, an inch and a half long, and about one-eighth of an inch deep, and contusions on the head—the wounds were of a dangerous character—the skin was not cut, it was separated.

Cross-examined. Q. Were they dangerous from what might ensue? A. Yes; not of themselves—erysipelas might have occurred—I did not attend the prisoner.

(The prisoner received a good character).

GUILTY . Aged 35.— Confined Twelve Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-124
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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124. WILLIAM CHEESEMAN was indicted for embezzlement.

MESSRS. HUDDLESTON and COLLIER conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS THORNE . I am secretary to the Directors and Guardians of the poor of St. Marylebone. I live in Marylebone workhouse—the prisoner was my assistant clerk—he first became so in 1848—amongst other things, it was his duty to receive moneys in my absence which were due to the parish—it was his duty to hand them over to me immediately he received them—there was a cash-book kept in the office, which was accessible to him at all times—it was his duty to make entries in it of all moneys he received—15s. was due to our parish from Bishopsgate on the 29th July—I have never been paid that sum—on 13th Nov., I told the prisoner he had received 15s. from the parish of St. Botolph, Bishopsgate, which he had not accounted for, and for which there was no entry in the cash-book—he said, "O, I paid it"—I replied, "You certainly did not, and there is no entry of it in the cash-book, where there ought to have been, in your handwriting"—he made no reply—I said, "Besides, I can produce the party to whom you made the admission that you intended to apply this money to your own use"—he said nothing to that—I produced the person—it was a person named Crook, a lithographic printer—here is the cash-book—there is another book, the maintenance-book, in which another officer enters the sums due to the parish—when the prisoner receives these sums, it is his duty to make an entry of them in that book, and of the day on which he receives them—here is an entry in the prisoner's writing of 15s. on 26th July, 1850—it is my habit to enter my name against these entries—the effect of this entry might be to induce me to sign my name there—I have not signed my name to this.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. When was the day he ought to have accounted for this money? A. The 2nd Aug.—that was the day it turned out he received it, according to a receipt that I saw—it would be his duty to enter "Aug. 2nd," opposite to the entry, and enter the amount

in the cash-book—the cash-book was accessible to him and to me—I kept it in my office—the prisoner was a pauper in the workhouse some six or eight years ago, and after he got some employment which he left, he was taken into my office for the purpose of improvement—I paid him no wages—he went off to better himself, and came back after a long time, and I gave him 10s. a week for casual employ—at the time of this occurrence he had 25s. a week, he had not to pay anybody out of that—when I gave him the employ, he paid 10s. a week to a person to assist him—he paid that to Jan., 1849, when he was first fully engaged—after that he did not pay anybody'; he had no assistance at all—I knew he had been a pauper, and I had reason to believe he had no property—I do not know that he had a mother and sister to maintain—his sister had been in the workhouse, and had obtained a situation out of the house—he paid this 10s. to my step-son—I did not make it a condition that he should pay it—he paid it of his own accord—he did all the work himself subsequently, and not very hard work; he had sufficient to do—my son is filling the same situation that the prisoner did before I charged him with this embezzlement, but without having any salary—he is doing it for my interest—I have never omitted to make entries in the book—I know the prisoner had no property—I had fifty shares in the Taw Vale Railway Company, for which 1 paid 300l.—I had no immediate prospect of getting into difficulties with them—I did not expect to get into difficulties about them—I expected to be called on for further calls—I was not aware how much I should be called on for—the usual call was 1l. a share—I did not consider the property utterly worthless—I sold the prisoner the shares—he paid for them with the sum of 10l. which was given him—it did not come directly from me; through a person that I instructed—his name was to be transferred to the Company's books; that was to avoid my own liabilities; I did not approve of the proceedings of the Company—I parted with those shares, because I did not approve of the Company—I decline to answer whether I did it for the purpose of committing a fraud upon the Company—these shares were shown to the prisoner at the time, by me, in my house—the nature of the transaction was explained to him—I took him in a cab to the office, and saw him sign the transfer—he asked me to keep the shares for him—I have not got them now—I delivered them up to him before he went through the Insolvent Debtors' Court—I have given him 12l. or 15l. to pay his expenses of going through the Court; being connected with him in the way I was, I wished that he should not suffer any pecuniary loss—he went through the Court —I did not afterwards stop any of his wages—I paid him 25s. a week—I have his receipts—I gave him notice to quit about two months ago, about the 11th or 12th Oct.—at that time not a word had been said about this embezzlement—he accused me of this, before the Board, subsequently to his being given in charge—he did not to my knowledge send in a statement to the Board the day after he was dismissed—he was given into custody on 13th Nov.—the Board day was on the Friday, after he was charged—there is no Board on Thursday—the first day of any application being made was on the Friday—I stated I could produce the party to whom he stated it was his intention to appropriate the money—I had heard that, on the day the prisoner was charged—Crook told me this for the first time on 13th Nov.—on looking over the books I discovered that something was

wrong, and I inquired of Crook, because I was informed there were other things which took place in my absence; he was in my office, and I asked him whether he knew anything about this 15s.—he said he knew that the prisoner had received it, and intended to apply it to his own use—Crook is a lithographic printer, he was formerly a pauper—he is now under my entire control—he is paid by me, 18s. a week, or rather he is paid by the Board—he never told me anything about it previously—I spoke about that, and other matters that had taken place in my absence—I have been censured by the Board for having any transactions with Cheeseman.

MR. COLLIER. Q. Did you know that the consequence of transferring the shares to the prisoner would be anything more than that they would be forfeited? A. No; when I found he got into difficulties, I did what I could to assist him—I inquired of Crook, because I knew there was great neglect in my office while I was withdrawn from it for other duties—I spoke on other matters which had reference to him—Crook had informed me that the prisoner opened a sealed letter addressed to me, and abstracted half a sovereign, and appropriated it to himself—the prisoner complained to the Board, on 15th Nov., two or three days after I made the charge against him—I received this letter (looking at one) from the prisoner on 15th Oct.

FREDERICK COURTNELL . I pay bills for the parish of St. Botolph, Bishopsgate. I went to Marylebone workhouse on 2nd Aug., and paid 15s. to the prisoner—I have the bill in my pocket, and the receipt, dated Aug. 2nd, 1850; signed, "W. Cheeseman."

THOMAS CROOK . I have been employed as a printer in Mr. Thorne's office; I was so at the latter end of July and the beginning of Aug. I saw Courtnell come and pay the prisoner 15s. in silver—the prisoner gave him a piece of paper; and after he was gone, he said to me that he should either stick to the money, or borrow it, I am not exactly certain which he said; I think he said he would borrow it—I said, "How can you think of doing such a thing as that, because you will be found out?"—he said, "I can save a trifle a week, and put that back again, and he will know nothing about it," meaning Mr. Thorne, of course.

Cross-examined. Q. Are you dependent on Mr. Thorne? A. No; I am at present certainly—I am paid my wages, 15s. no, 18s. a week—they have not been raised lately—they were not 15s.; I made a mistake —I have been receiving this money from Mr. Thorne I should think for nine months—I did not tell him that the prisoner kept back this money, because I did not want to get him out of his situation—I told him, because he sent for me into his room—I was not alone with him—I cannot say who else was there—I believe a woman went in and out—the policeman was there.

MR. COLLIER. Q. Did Mr. Thorne mention any other matters? A. Not then—I cannot exactly state the time he sent for me; it might be a month ago—I saw him more than once on this matter—I was obliged to attend at the police-court—he sent for me more than once at the work-house certainly, but all upon the same subject—I had no reason for not telling him before, than what I have said—I have not had any talk with him about any other irregularities in the office.


THIRD COURT.—Monday, December 2nd, 1850.


Before Russell Gurney, Esq., and the Fifth Jury.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-125
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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GUILTY .— Confined Nine Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-126
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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126. PETER MATHESON and JEREMIAH POTTS , stealing 1 gas-meter, value 30s.; the goods of the Gas-light and Coke Company.

MESSRS. HUDDLESTON and COCKLE conducted the Prosecution.

ROBERT WATERS . I live at 33, Gray's-inn-lane, and am one of the gas-fitters of the London Gas Company, the new Company. I was employed by them to put up a meter in Matheson's shop, on Lord Mayor's Day; in order to do that, I had to take down another meter—the badge of the Chartered Gas-light Company was on it, "The property of the Chartered Gas Company"—I told Matheson to take it away out of the shop, and he might remove it to the kitchen, and it would be called for by the Company's servants—he said he was a tenant of the house, merely a lodger; he was paying 8s. a week for the shop, parlour, and kitchen.

Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. He was the tenant of that part of the premises where the meter was put up? A. Yes; both companies charge the same for gas—I only know who the meter belonged to by the badge.

JOSEPH PALMER . I am a carpenter, of Fullwood's-rents. On 11th Nov. I saw Matheson at the Hole in the Wall, Baldwin's-gardens—he asked me if I would go and sell a meter for him—I said, "Yes"—he said, "You come to me in about half an hour"—I said, "Very well"—he said, "When you come in, you say you come from the Company;" and if his wife was there, she would let me have it—I would not go.

ROBERT WATERS the younger. I am the son of the first witness, and am in partnership with him. On 11th Nov., between five and six o'clock in the evening, Potts called at our shop, and asked me if I would buy an old gas-meter—he had not got it with him—I told him it would be of no use; the Company would not pass an old meter.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you known him before? A. No.

WILLIAM KNELL . I live at the Ship, Gray's-inn-lane. On 11th Nov., about a quarter-past seven o'clock in the evening, I saw Potts there—something was under the seat he was sitting on—he said, "Bill, do you know where to sell an old meter?"—I said, "Next door"—he said he had been there with it, and Mr. Waters would not buy it—I said, "Mr. Bartlett will buy it, just below"—he said, "You know him better than me, will you go and see?"—I went, and he said he would buy it—I went back, and told Potts—he took the meter there—Mr. Bartlett rubbed his hand on it, and said, "Knell, this belongs to the Company; I would not buy it for a guinea"—I told Potts to put it back in the same spot where he had it from—next morning I saw the prisoners together—I

overheard that the meter came from Matheson's, and that Potts was to go for some money for it in twenty minutes or half an hour.

SAMUEL BARTLETT . On 11th Nov., Knell came to me—he went away, and came again afterwards with a meter—I saw a badge on it—I rubbed it, and found it was the property of the Chartered Gas Company—I refused to buy it, and he took it away—in a minute or two afterwards Potts came, and asked me to buy the meter—he said it was given to him, and I might as well buy it as anybody else—I said I dared not, as it was the property of the Chartered Gas Company, he had better take it back to where he had got it, or else to the Company's works, and they would probably remunerate him for his trouble—I think he said if I did not buy it some one else should, but I will not be positive—I met him again next morning, and he asked me if I would buy it—I asked what he had done with it—he said he had got it at home, that he had, or meant to, knock the badges off, I cannot say which—the Company do not sell meters.

ADAM MATHER . I am a gas-fitter, of Charles-street, Hatton-garden. On 12th Nov. Potts came to me four times—the first time he asked if I would buy a meter—I asked how he got it; he said it was given to him by Cubitt's foreman, at the Marquis of Hertford, Piccadilly—I requested to see it; he brought it—it was almost new, and the badges had been recently taken off—he said both times that a pot or two of beer would satisfy them, that it had been knocking about the Marquis of Hertford's cellar three or four years—I told him to get me a note from Mr. Cubitt's foreman, to the effect that it was given to him—it was worth twenty times the amount he asked—he came again, with another man, who said it was all right, but the foreman was out—I said I had got no change, and I wanted to make a little inquiry about it, they must call again, and the meter must remain there—they left it with me—Potts came again for the money; a policeman was waiting for him—I told him I was informed that the meter was stolen; and he cut off to fetch a person named Jack, but instead of returning, he was making the best of his way up Hattongarden.

Cross-examined. Q. Is not that the way towards Gray's-inn-lane? A. Yes.

HENRY THOMPSETT (policeman, A 406). On 12th Nov. I picked up this badge in Gray's-inn-lane—I took it to Mather—Potts lives in Tash-street, Gray's-inn-lane—I waited there for him, but did not see him—I took Matheson, and told him it was about a gas-meter—he said nothing.

JOHN THOMPSON (policeman, G 174). I took Potts on 12th Nov.—he said he had the meter from Matheson—I called on Matheson that evening, and told him I had come to make inquiries about a meter which I suspected was stolen from there, or lost from there—he said it was not stolen, for one of the men came from the Chartered Company, and took the meter away with him, and that the man took the receipt away on Tuesday—I asked him if he was landlord of the house—he said he was—Potts was before the Magistrate on 13th Nov.—Matheson was examined on his behalf, and he was discharged; after which Matheson told me, in the passage of the Court, that Potts knew all about it, for he gave it to him—I had the meter under my arm—this is it (produced).

SAMUEL BARTLETT re-examined. Here are two badges on this meter, "The property of the Chartered Gas Company"—they were both on it when it was brought to me, and also a red-wax badge—this(produced) is

one of the badges I saw on it—it was from seeing this that I told Knell that it belonged to the Chartered Gas Company.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you to rub it before you discovered what was on it? A. No; I did that to show them more distinctly—I knew where to find it.

JAMES BARNETT . I am inspector of the Chartered Gas Company. This gas-meter is their property—it is worth 30s.—I saw it fixed at 45, Gray's-inn-lane, on 26th June, 1850, when Cherry was the tenant—this is the badge of it—it contains the number—we never sell meters.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you manage the sale department? A. No; I occasionally receive money for gas, but if I was offered six times the value of a meter I would not sell it—it was put up on Aug. 17th, 1849—I gave the order for it to be put up, and saw it that day after it was up.

WILLIAM BROWNING . On 14th Aug., 1849, I was employed to put up a meter at 45, Gray's-inn-lane—I put the number in this book(produced)—it corresponds with the badge.

(MR. O'BRIEN submitted that this was not the offence contemplated by the section of the Act under which the indictment was framed; the words being, "break, throw down, destroy, take away;" but that the words "take away" must derive their meaning from the other words, implying damage, which could not be said of the exchange of one meter for another; and that having once got lawful possession of it, he could not be guilty of felony, without the commission of some trespass. MR. HUDDLESTON contended that if the prisoner, having a desire to appropriate the meter to his own use, got the London Gas Company to take it down, and put another up, that would amount to felony; that he was only a bailee while the meter remained fixed, and when taken down, the possession re-vested in the Company, and any subsequent taking would amount to the offence charged. THE COURT, (having consulted the Common Serjeant, was of opinion that the indictment could not be sustained, and that the prisoner was lawfully in possession of the goods at the time in question.)


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-127
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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127. RICHARD HAMMETT DRAKE , embezzling 5l. and 80l.; the moneys of Abraham Wildey Robarts and others, his masters.

MESSRS. BODKIN and HUDDLESTON conducted the Prosecution.

EDGAR PITT NUNN . I am clerk to Messrs. Dixon, Brooks, and Co., bankers, of Chancery-lane. On 18th Oct., in consequence of instructions, I went to Robarts, Curtis, and Co.'s, and paid 5l. in the country office, to the credit of Stuckey and Co., of Wellington—I do not know how I paid it, or to whom—I received a receipt; I do not know whether it was from the person to whom I paid the money.

HARRY BROWN . I am a clerk in the house of Coutts and Co., bankers. On 19th Oct. I paid 80l. on account of the Bristol bank, and fifteen guineas on account of the Cheltenham bank, into Robarts', between twelve and one o'clock—the receipt is signed "R. H. Drake"—I paid it in his department, but it does not follow that I should pay him the money—I cannot say whether I saw the prisoner—the notes comprising the 80l. were two 30l.-notes, Nos. 54792 and 54793; and one 20l., No. 73333—the 15l. consisted of a 5l. note, No. 19733; and 10l. 15s., in gold and silver—I took no account of the dates in this book—I received the 30l.-notes from Currie and Co., the 20l.-note from the town department of Robarts', and the 5l.-note from Willis, Percival, and Co.

EDWARD RAILTON . I am clerk to Currie and Co, bankers, of Cornhill. On 18th Oct. I paid Messrs. Coutts's clerk two 30l.-notes, Nos. 54792 and 54793, dated 7th May—I entered them in this book(produced).

ROBERT MORRISS . I am a clerk in Robarts' town office. On 19th Oct. I paid a clerk of Messrs. Coutta a 20l.-note, No. 73333, 6th June, 1850.

Cross-examined by MR. DIGBY SEYMOUR. Q. Who keeps the book? A. I do; the entries are in my own writing.

JOHN CLEAVER GARDNER . I am clerk to Robarts, Curtis, and Co. Abraham Wildey Robarts is the head partner; there are others—I am in the country department—the prisoner was cashier in that department—it was his duty to receive payments for country banks, and to sign checks for the amounts—I believe these checks of Courts' to be in his writing, and in two cases the filling up as well as the signature—this book (produced) has entries of mine—by looking at it I am able to say that I was there on 18th Oct.—I do not remember seeing a clerk from Dixon's that day—no one was receiving money in the country department that day but me and the prisoner—I received money from about twelve o'clock—if the prisoner received 5l. that day on account of Stuckey, Wellington bank, it would be his duty to place it in a drawer near me, with a ticket of the particulars on whose account it was received, and for what bank—money received is always placed in the same drawer—it would be my duty to enter from that drawer the particulars of the country transactions—I keep two books for convenience—I find no account of 18l. received for Stuckey's bank on 18th Oct., or at any time—the prisoner was on duty on 19th—if he received 80l. for the Bristol bank, and fifteen guineas for the Cheltenham bank, it would be his duty to place them in the drawer—I find here an account of the fifteen guineas received from Messrs. Coutts, on account of Mr. Southwood with the Cheltenham bank—here is the ticket I copied it from(produced)—it is in the prisoner's writing—I find no account of the 80l. paid in at the same time from the same house—no other person was doing anything as to the receipt of money in my department after twelve or one o'clock on 19th Oct.—we sometimes have a clerk from another department to assist after twelve o'clock, when I go to a different part of the house, but all the entries on the 19th are in my writing—we have an agreement balance every twenty-one days.

Cross-examined. Q. How many clerks are there in that department? A. Eleven; every clerk who receives money, puts it into that drawer—it is open—the country office opens at nine, and I come in a few minutes before twelve—sums of money would be put into that drawer by the other clerks between nine and twelve—it then becomes my duty to enter the sums—I find them in the cash-book.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Is the drawer part of any desk? A. It is in my desk—the prisoner sat next to me, and the drawer was between us, but nearer me than him—several, but not all, the clerks would have to go to it.

CHARLES OVINGTON . I am a clerk in Robarts' house—the prisoner was there on 21st, but he has not returned since—the general agreement-day was the 22nd, when we should see whether the cash-books and ledgers agreed.

Cross-examined. Q. You suspected nothing next day from his absence? A. No; he was ill the night before.

CHARLES ELLS . I am a clerk in Robarts and Co.'s town office—I have a 30l.-note, No. 54792, dated 7th May, 1850, entered in this book—I changed it for the prisoner on 21st Oct., and gave him thirty sovereigns—he told me he wanted it for his cousin, and to put his cousin's initials to it—I knew his cousin and did so.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you know when the prisoner's salary would be due? A. On 1st Oct.—I think it is nearly 150l. a year.

RICHARD FRY . I keep the Grapes, Strand—I have had business transactions with the prisoner. On 21st Oct., between eight and half-past nine, he brought a 30l.-note to me to change—I had not sufficient in the house, and sent my servant Allen out for it—he returned with it, and I gave it to the prisoner.

WILLIAM ALLEN . Mr. Fry gave me a 30l.-note to get changed—I took it to Messrs. Eve and Pythian, who gave it me, and I took it back.

JOHN OVERY EVE . I am a grocer, of the Strand—Allen brought me this 30l.-note, 54793, 7th May, 1850—here is my writing on it—I changed it for him.

WILLIAM BAKER . I am a tailor, of Clement's-lane, Lombard-street—I supply the prisoner with clothes. On the 21st Oct. he was in my debt—he called and bought an overcoat—he gave me this 20l.-note 73333, June 6, 1850, and told me to place it to his account—I wrote his name on it.

JOHN FORRESTER . I took the prisoner into custody in James-street, Clerkenwell, on 31st Oct., at the house of a person named Brown—I do not know where the prisoner lives.

Cross-examined. Q. You took him to the house of a friend of his? A. I understood so.

(The checks were here read.)

MR SEYMOUR submitted that as it was not the prisoner's duty to account for money, but only to place it in a drawer, no felony had been committed.

The COURT overruled the objection.

GUILTY . Aged 28.— Transported for Ten Years.

(There were three other indictments against the prisoner.)

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-128
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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128. NASH HAYES was indicted for bigamy.

MR. COOPER conducted the Prosecution.

MORRIS DALEY . I live at Turnham-green, and am a labourer. I have known the prisoner twenty years—I was present in Oct. 1844 at Isleworth chapel, when he was married to Mary Ann Richardson—I saw her last on 24th Oct. at Hammersmith police-court.

Cross-examined by MR. RIBTON. Q. Who was present? A. Mrs. Jones, who is not here, and Mr. Banton the registrar, who held some office in the established Church—I saw Mary Ann Richardson after the marriage—I do not know where she is now—she went away from the prisoner, and it was the common cry that she went with another man—she remained away twelve months, and came back again—the prisoner lived at my house about twelve months after his marriage—he was a very kind and attentive husband.

ROBERT HITCHMAN (policeman, T 204). I took the prisoner into custody—I produce two certificates; one of which I saw copied from the register at the catholic chapel at Isleworth; I examined it, and am certain

it is correct—the other I got from the Registrar-General's office, at Somerset-house—I examined that.

Cross-examined. Q. Who is the prosecutor in this case? A. I do not know—the prisoner was given into custody by the first wife on 16th October—I do not know where she is now.

ANTONY WEARING . I am a Roman Catholic priest at Isleworth—(looking at his book) on 13th Oct. 1844 I solemnised the marriage of the prisoner to Mary Ann Richardson—I have seen her since.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you know her? A. No; she was not a member of my congregation—she purported to be a Catholic, and I was told by the clergyman of the Union that they were persons who had done their duty, and who might be married—I do not marry persons without that recommendation, unless I know them myself. (The certificates were here read; the second certified the marriage of Nash Hayes and Johanna McDonald on 28 April 1850.)

(The prisoner received a good characte.)

GUILTY .— Confined Eight Days.

(A person named John Hayes, stated that a man named Long had been in habits of familiarity with the prisoner's first wife in his absence, and had afterwards gone away with her, taking 22l. 10s.-worth of property. The second wife also stated that when she married the prisoner, the was aware his wife had left him.)

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-129
VerdictsGuilty > pleaded guilty; Guilty > pleaded guilty; Not Guilty > unknown

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129. GEORGE EVANS and HENRY BROOKS , stealing 9 brassknobs, 7 door-keys, 15 brass escutcheons, and 10 brass handles, value 14s. 6d.; the goods of Richard Steel; and JOHN NICHOLSON receiving the same: to which

EVANS pleaded GUILTY . Aged 15.

BROOKS pleaded GUILTY . Aged 14.

Confined Fourteen Days.

MESSRS. BODKIN and O'BRIEN conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM WELLS . I have a house under my care, 3, London-terrace, Hackney-road. On 7th Nov., I missed a quantity of keys, brass knobs, and handles from there, worth 14s. or 15s.—I had seen them safe ten days or a fortnight before—these keys and knobs(produced) I believe belong to the house—there were seven keys lost, and six are found—I saw the policeman try them to the house in my presence.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Are the knobs the most expensive part of the property? A. I should say they are worth from 9s. to 10s.—I give 8d. and sometimes 9d. for keys—five of these are new; they had been six weeks in the house; the other is rusty—they would all look rusty through not being used—the house belongs to Mr. Richard Steel.

HENRY BINGLEY (policeman, K 134). On 7th Nov. I was on duty in Cambridge-road, Bethnal-green, I saw Evans, and found on him some brass knobs, handles, and escutcheons—I asked him where he got them from—he said he did not know—he afterwards said he got them from an empty house, he did not know where.

EDWARD LIVERMORE . On 7th Nov., about half-past eleven o'clock, I saw Evans and Brooks opposite No. 18—Brooks was trying to get the escutcheons off—they then went to No. 10—Evans jumped over the wall, and when he came back, I got hold of him, waited till the policeman came, and gave him into custody.

CHARLES MILLS (policeman, K 306). In consequence of information

on 9th Nov., I took Brooks into custody in Whitechapel—I took him to Nicholson's house, and he said, "That is where I sold the keys"—we went there, and saw Nicholson—Smith went in, and I stood by the door; I did not hear what passed.

WILLIAM SMITH (policeman, K 28). I went with Mills and Brooks to Nicholson's, which is a marine store-shop—we saw Nicholson, and Brooks said, "That is the man I sold the keys to"—I asked Nicholson to produce the keys—he brought a lot from behind the counter, and I said to Brooks, "Can you see them?"—he examined them, and said, "No"—Nicholson then brought up some more, and I said, "Let me see all you have got," and when he brought up the third lot, the boy picked out six, and said, "These are the keys I sold him for 2d."—after the boy was gone, he said, "I gave him 5d. for them"—I went again in the evening, and told him he must consider himself in custody for buying the keys of Brooks—he said, "I hope not; if I have done wrong I am sorry for it; I was not aware they were stolen when I bought them"—I asked if he made an entry at the time he bought them—he said he had—I took the book from him immediately, and found no entry there—this(produced) is the book—I asked if he kept any other memorandum—he said, "No."

Cross-examined. Q. Where did you get the book? A. I took it from a bureau at the back of the counter—there is no entry since 2nd Nov.—he did not say he bought them at 5d. a pound; he said 5d. for the keys.

(Nicholson received a good character)


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-130
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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130. JOHN MALLAS , embezzling 1l. 11s. 2d., and 7s.; the moneys of Antonio Borelli, his master.

MR. O'BRIEN conducted the Prosecution.

JOSEPH DEWHURST . I keep an upholsterer's shop, 2, Crosby-road, Walworth-road. On 2nd Nov., the prisoner came to my shop, and sold me some looking-glasses, for which I paid him 1l. 11s. 2d.—there was another person with him—I am not aware for whom he sold them—he was hawking them about.

ELIZA MOONS . I am the wife of Henry Moons, who keeps a furnitureshop, 34, New Cut. On 2nd Nov. I bought two glasses of the prisoner, and paid him 7s. for them.

PETER ALBINO . I am in the service of Antonio Borelli, of 14, Leatherlane, and the prisoner also—we are in the habit of taking out goods, and selling them for our master. On 2nd Nov. I was out with the prisoner, and recollect his going to Dewhurst's shop—I was not present when he received the money, but I recollect his going to Mills's, and was present when he received the money there—we both returned home together in the evening—it was our custom to pay the money as soon as we came in, either to muster or mistress, whoever was there—that evening the prisoner came in to tea, he wished to go down the yard—I said, "Don't be long, the tea is ready"—it was then half-past seven, and I did not see him again till he was in custody three or four days after.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Did you sell anything? A. No; this was on Saturday, and I did not see him again till the Wednesday, I think, at the police-court—some one came to my master about him before he was taken.

WILLIAM ROBINS (policeman, G 164). On 6th Nov. Mr. Borelli gave the prisoner in charge in Warner-street for taking goods out, selling

them, and keeping the money—the prisoner did not say anything, but began crying.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you see where the prisoner had come from? A. No, he was standing with his master at the corner of the street.

ELLEN BORELLI . I am the wife of Antonio Borelli. The prisoner was in his service—on 2nd Nov. he took out goods to sell, and it was his duty to give the money to me or his master—I saw him on the evening of 2nd Nov.; he did not pay me any money, or give me any account of having sold any goods—I came for the purpose of giving him his tea—he went down-stairs, and I did not see him again.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you know he had sold some goods? A. Albino told me so; our people ought to pay the money directly they come in—they do sometimes not pay till the next day—we have three persons who go out—I am not aware, whether some people came to our house from the prisoner on the day he was taken, and that my husband followed them to a public-house—I do not recollect a person coming and giving my husband 1l.:I am not aware that it was offered him—several persons came that day.

ANTONIO BORELLI (through an interpreter). The prisoner was in my service—he did not pay me any money on the evening of 2nd Nov., or at any time up to the time he was given in custody.

Cross-examined. Q. Where did you take him into custody? A. At the top of Warner-street—I was searching for him, and happened to meet him there; it is about half-a-mile from my house—two men came about settling the matter, and I said I would settle it if they would be responsible, or pay down the money—the prisoner told me he had spent the money to go and get married—I did not see his wife—he did not tell me that a man persuaded him to go to a public-house, where he got intoxicated, and lost the money, and that was the reason he sent the men to me—he asked me to pardon him for what he had done—two men came to me about an hour before the prisoner was taken—I did not find out where he was, by following them—I did not ask them where the prisoner was—I have not received a pound, or any money; but I said if the persons who came, would stand good for the money, I would not appear against the prisoner.

GUILTY . Aged 34.— Confined Three Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-131
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence
SentenceNo Punishment > sentence respited

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131. ELIZABETH BROWN , breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Richard Moss and another, and stealing 1 shirt, 1 candlestick, 1 pair of clogs, 1 apron, and two towels, value 5s. 3d.; the goods of Augusta Willsher: having been twice before convicted.

MR. THOMPSON conducted the Prosecution.

AUGUSTA WILLSHER . I lodge on the third-floor, at 47, New Compton-street; it is the dwelling-house of Richard Moss and Earl Collier. On the evening of 21st Nov. I went out between six and seven o'clock, and returned at live minutes to eight, and missed these articles(produced) which were safe when I left; they are worth 5s.—I have lived in the house eight years—I pay the rent to Mr. Moss; I never paid it to any one else—he has a partner in the shop—my room is the upper part of the house.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Are there any marks on any of them? A. Yes; the candlestick has been mended; I know this apron is mine, by its being drawn and not hemmed; and the clogs I know by

their having one strap longer than the other—I left the things outside my door, on a line.

THOMAS MOULD ( policeman, C 123). On 21st Nov., between seven and eight o'clock in the evening, I saw the prisoner go to the door of 47, New Compton-street, and in the act of opening the door, as I thought—I waited; she went in and closed the door, and I tried the door to see if it was safe—I waited twenty minutes or half-an-hour, and saw her come out with a bundle—I crossed the road, and asked what she had got; she said, "It is my property"—I said, "Do you live in the house"—she said, "Yes"—I asked what part; she said the first-floor front—I said, "I do not understand it exactly; I shall make inquiry"—I took the bundle from her, took her into custody, knocked at the door, and asked the parties if they knew her; they said "No"—I asked if she lived in the first-floor front; they said, "No, it was not occupied"—they went up-stairs, and found Mrs. Willsher was out, and I took the prisoner to the station—at the station I asked her for the key she had in her pocket; she pulled out three keys and three or four matches, and four onions—I went back to No. 47, and found this key would open the door—the house is in the parish of St. Giles-in-the-Fields.

Cross-examined. Q. You found several persons in the house? A. Yes; I saw her go into the house—I was on the opposite side—she did not appear to be the worse for liquor—she was excited from being taken by surprise.

JOHN GRAY (Police-inspector, G.) I produce a certificate—(read—Central Criminal Court—Elizabeth Brown, Convicted, Dec. 1841, of stealing in the dwelling-house to the amount of nearly 200l.; confined one year)—I was present; the prisoner is the person who was tried.

JOSEPH HEDINGTON (City-policeman, 20). I produce a certificate—(read—Central Criminal Court— Elizabeth Robinson, Convicted, May, 1848, of larceny from the person; confined six months)—I was present at the trial; the prisoner is the person. GUILTY of stealing only. Aged 26.

(Inspector Gray stated that she had been twice besides convicted, and skeleton keys found on her. Margaret Clark, dressmaker; Ann Mitchell, servant, of 109, Bond-street; and George Esther, of 3, Archer-street, tailor, proved that the prisoner had been getting her living honestly since the last conviction).

Judgment Respited.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-132
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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132. BENJAMIN KELLY , stealing 1 handkerchief, value 2s.; the goods of Alfred Edward Lingard, from his person: having been before convicted.

MR. RIBTON conducted the Prosecution.

ALFRED EDWARD LINGARD . I am a pawnbroker's assistant, and reside at 37, York-street, Commercial-road. On Saturday night, 2nd Nov., between eight and nine o'clock, I was at a book-stall, in Baker's-row, Whitechapel-road, and felt a person come up to me, and felt a hand in my pocket—I turned, saw the prisoner, and suspected it was him—he was close to me, and the only person near—I caught hold of him, and said, "You have taken my handkerchief"—he said, "What do you mean?" and struggled hard with me, and got away—I followed him, calling, "Stop thief!"—he turned up Thomas-street—I still followed him, and he ran up against a policeman, and I gave him in charge—my handkerchief, which I had safe about an hour before, was gone—it was afterwards

given me by my brother—I know it by the marks on it—this (produced) is it—here is "R O" on one corner, and it has been darned—I see a great quantity in my business, and never saw one like this.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Are you sure the person who ran into the policeman's arms is the same you had hold of? A. Yes; I did not lose sight of him.

WILLIAM COPPING . I am a labourer, and reside at 9, Thomas-street, Whitechapel-road. On the evening of 2nd Nov. I saw Lingard at the book-stall, and the prisoner standing behind him, and I saw him put his hand into Lingard's pocket, and take from it a handkerchief—Lingard turned round and took him by the collar; he struggled and ran away—I followed him up Thomas-street, and while running, saw him throw a handkerchief away, which the prosecutor's brother picked up—I did not see him taken.

Cross-examined. Q. What are you? A. I draw a truck for Mr. Miles, a wine-merchant—I have been two years in his regular employ—I was about three yards from the book-stall—I did not know the prisoner before—I was four or five yards from him when he threw away the handkerchief—I saw him again two or three minutes after.

THOMAS BROWN (policeman, K 359). On 2nd Nov. I was in Buck'srow, Whitechapel at nine o'clock at night, and heard a cry of "Stop thief!"—I turned the corner of Thomas-street, and the prisoner ran against me—I laid hold of him, and he asked me if I knew who they wanted stopped—the prosecutor came up and gave him in charge—this handkerchief was given me at the police-court.

MICHAEL JOSEPH COTTER (policeman, N 15). I produce a certificate of the prisoner's conviction—(read)—Clerkenwell, July, 1844, Convicted of stealing a handkerchief from the person; confined one mouth, one week solitary)—I was present—I am sure he is the man.

GUILTY.** Aged 22.— Confined Six Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-133
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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133. MARGARET MANTELL , stealing 1 cloak and 3 pairs of stockings, value 20s.; the goods of George Hassett, her master.

GEORGE HASSETT . I am a linen-draper, at 24, Exmouth-street. The prisoner came to me as a servant on a Tuesday, at eight in the morning; I forget the date—at eleven she went home to change her dress, and get the rest of her things, and did not come back—after she was gone I missed a cloak, which I had seen safe the same morning hanging behind the door in the back drawing-room, and the stockings, which I had seen safe in a box half an hour before she left—I saw her again next day at her mother's, and she was taken into custody—the house was searched, and we found nothing—we went again and searched, and behind the kitchen door, which was jammed to the wall, and which we had not pulled back before, we found the cloak hanging—this is it(produced)—it is my property.

ELIZA VOLLER . I am searcher at the station. The prisoner was given me to search, and I asked what she was charged with—she said with an old cloak of her master's—I searched her, and said, "You have nothing about you; where is the cloak?"—she said, "It hangs behind my mother's door in Brill-row, Somers-town."

Prisoner's Defence. My mother was very ill, almost dying, and I

pledged my shawl to get her something, and took this one to cover me; I had no intention of keeping it.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Three Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-134
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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134. CHARLES RICHARDSON , stealing 1 handkerchief, value 3s.; the goods of Alfred Slater, from his person.

ALFRED SLATER . I am a clerk in the General Post-office, and live at 10, Southampton-street. On the morning of 27th Nov. I was near St. Sepulchre's Church, and felt a slight pull at my pocket—I turned, and saw the prisoner running away with my handkerchief—Archer, who was about twenty yards off, caught hold of him, and he threw the handkerchief into the street—I picked it up—this is it(produced)—I never lost sight of the prisoner.

JOHN ARCHER (policeman, G 217). I took him into custody, and saw him throw the handkerchief into the road.

GUILTY.** Aged 15.— Transported for Seven Years.

(He had been five times convicted.)

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-135
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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135. ELIZA KING , stealing 1 watch, 2 seals, and 2 keys, value 15l.; the goods of Thomas Jowett, from his person.

MR. RIBTON conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN HAYES (City-policeman, 256). On 20th Nov., about quarter-past one o'clock in the morning, I saw the prisoner in Aldersgate-street with Mr. Jowett, who was very tipsy—I followed them till they came to a court near Gray's-inn-lane, and after remaining there some time the prisoner left him, and was running away—I went towards her, for the purpose of stopping her—she ran back to the prosecutor, and began pressing him to come along with her, catching hold of him—I told her to leave off, and she said, "What, have not I a right to speak to my husband?"—I told the prosecutor I suspected she had been robbing him, and asked him to see if he had lost anything, and before he could understand, the prisoner began catching hold of him, and put her hand towards his breast-pocket—I saw something in her hand, took hold of her, and asked the prosecutor again to see if his money was all right—he said it was all right; and I asked him if he had a watch about him—he felt again, and said he had lost his watch; and while he was examining his pocket, I saw the prisoner put her hand to her pocket—I seized it, called another constable, and took this watch(produced) out of her pocket, which I showed to the prosecutor, who said it was his—at first she said she had no watch; and when it was found, she said the prosecutor had given it her to take care of—I took her to the station.

JOHN TRAWIN (policeman, A 446). On 20th Nov., about a quarter-past one o'clock, the last witness called me—I went, found the prisoner, searched her pocket, and found this watch.

THOMAS JOWETT . I am a merchant and manufacturer, and reside at Bingley, in Yorkshire. On 20th Nov., about a quarter-past one o'clock in the morning, I was in the City, near the Queen's Hotel—I was not quite sober—I met the prisoner, who asked me to treat her to a little gin—I said I had no objection, if it would do her any good, and went with her—I recollect the policeman coming up to me—this watch is mine, and I

had it on that night—the policeman desired me to search my pocket, and I found it was gone—I am certain I did not give it to the prisoner.

Cross-examined by MR. WOOLLETT. Q. you were very drunk? A. I could walk—I met the prisoner at the corner of the Post-office yard—I did not take my watch out and look at it—I was only a little way gone then, I had some gin with her going along—I went into two public-houses, perhaps three. GUILTY . Aged 31.— Confined Three Months.

OLD COURT.—Tuesday, December 3rd, 1850.



Before Mr. Recorder.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-136
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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136. ABRAHAM DOLBY , stealing 4 dead herrings, value 3d.; the goods of the Eastern Counties Railway Company: to which he pleaded

GUILTY.—Recommended to mercy. Confined Eight Days

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-137
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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137. JOHN LEE , stealing 4 dead herrings, value; the goods of the Eastern Counties Railway Company: to which he pleaded

GUILTY.—Recommended to mercy. Confined Eight Days.

NEW COURT.—Tuesday, December 3rd, 1850.



Before Mr. Common Serjeant, and the Seventh Jury.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-138
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation; Not Guilty > unknown

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138. JOHN SMITH and GEORGE HARVEY , breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Cole, and stealing 1 pistol and other articles, value 11s. 2d.; his property.

MR. COCKLE conducted the Prosecution

WILLIAM COLE . I live at 8, Monmouth-court, in the parish of St. Giles-in-the-Fields. I rent the ground-floor—the landlord does not live in the house—I deal in tools—on Thursday evening, 14th Nov. I went out about seven o'clock—I left my shop quite secure—there is a cellar under it, and a trap-door from the shop to it—when I left, the trap-door was quite safe, and secured with a thumb-screw—when I came home, I found it had been broken up from below—the cellar is partitioned off from the kitchen—I missed these tools(produced) and other things which have not been discovered, and this pistol—I saw them safe just before I left—the entrance had been effected from the kitchen into the cellar by forcing a board off, and from there to the shop by the flap—there is a window to the kitchen, which faces the area, towards the street—these articles (produced) are mine—I have the fellow pistol to this.

Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. You have most of the things that you lost? A. Yes; I know Harvey—from all I have heard he is a respectable, honest boy—his mother lives in Dudley-street.

Smith. Q. How many persons lodge in the house? A. I do not know—they all have access to the kitchen.

PATRICK COVENEY . I am fourteen years old—I live at 1, Monmonth-court—I know Smith; he lives next door to Mr. Cole—on Thursday night, 14th Nov., I saw the two prisoners in front of Mr. Cole's, between half-past seven and half-past eight o'clock.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you see them the day before, playing there? A. Yes; they are generally about playing there.

JAMES STRINGER (policeman, C 193). I saw the prisoners together on Saturday, 16th Nov., about three o'clock in the afternoon, in Maidenheadpassage, St. James's—Smith had these articles in his hand, and Harvey was so near him as to be able to see what he had—I watched the prisoners, and Smith went into a broker's shop in Prince's-street—Harvey walked from him, and stood on the opposite side of the road—I saw Smith offer these small tools for sale in the shop; the broker refused to buy them—on that I asked Smith where he got them—he said he bought them one by one, and gave 1d. each for them—I asked if he had got anything else about him; he said he had not—I took him to the station, and found this pistol and pincers concealed inside his shirt, next his skin—I asked where he got the pistol; he said he bought it in William-mews, near Sloane-street, a week before, for 1s. 3d.—when I took Smith, Harvey ran away—I had no assistance, and could not stop him—I apprehended Harvey on the Monday evening—I found nothing on him.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you know Harvey's mother lives in Dudley-street, where you took him? A. I believe she does.

Smith's Defence. We are often near the door; I went to the shop to sell these things; I had bought them myself.

SMITH— GUILTY.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor.Confined

Nine Months.


25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-139
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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139. MICHAEL JOHN PARKER , stealing 6 half-sovereigns, 30 half-crowns, 100 shillings, and 20 sixpences, the moneys of Edward Clark, his master; in his dwelling-house.

MR. BIRNIE conducted the Prosecution.

EDWARD CLARK . I Jive in College-place, Camden-town. On 17th Oct., I lived at 73, Brewer-street, Somers-town—it was my dwelling-house, and is in the parish of St. Pancras—the prisoner was my errand-boy—I am a cheesemonger—I had one maid-servant—I went out that day—the girl always went home on Sunday after dinner, and staid till next morning, while the prisoner stopped at home—I had in a cupboard 14l. 15s. in gold and silver—I am positive there was one sovereign—I came home about a quarter before ten o'clock in the evening—I found no one at home—I went next door, and got in through the window—my money was gone, and no one was there—I had put on some firing previous to going out, and told the prisoner to keep up a good fire—he had left his waistcoat with a sixpence, and some fancy coins in the pocket of it, and his blouse—I did not see him again for a month—he had then got a new suit of clothes; I am positive of that, because he had paid 5s. off a suit of clothes in Liquorpond-street—I asked him how he came to go away, and take my money—he said he had not robbed me—my servant was sent for that night—her parents live in the next street.

Cross-examined by MR. COCKLE. Q. How long bad the prisoner been in your service? A. About nine months—I received a character with him, not from his last place, but from the one before, which induced me to take him into my employ—he has a father and mother—I had locked the cupboard, but had forgotten to take the key out—I left that shop on 18th Oct.—I do not keep a shop now—no application had been made to me for any sum of money just before I left—the rent is paid; no application had been made for it previous to my leaving—I disposed of my business there—it is carried on still in that line—Eliza Chapman had been with me there about four months—I was not in the habit of sending the prisoner to that cupboard, no one but my wife—Chapman did not know the amount that was there, that I am aware of—I went to the prisoner's parents directly, but could not find him—I did not tell them what I wanted him for—I said I wanted him—they said he was there between seven and eight o'clock, and he and his brother had gone out together, and they did not know where he was—my money was in a paper—there was a sovereign, a halfsovereign, half-crowns, shillings, sixpences, and some coppers: pence to the best of my belief—it was twisted up like a pound of sugar—when I saw the prisoner again, he said he had been on an excursion—I had put the money there at one o'clock that day—I am now an insolvent debtor in Whitecross-street.

ELIZA CHAPMAN . I was the prosecutor's servant. I remember his going out that Sunday; I left a few minutes after—the prisoner said he was going to stay there, and he said, "Has master been counting the money?"—I said, "I do not know"—he said, "Do you know where they put it"—I said, "I don't know anything about it"—I went to my mother's—I was sent for and asked if I knew where the prisoner was: I said, "No."

Cross-examined. Q. When did you next see your master? A. That night—I was not sent to the prisoner's mother, my master went—I did not know about any money being in that cupboard—I knew there was a cupboard, I do not know whether it was locked or not—my master does not live there now—I am living with my mistress in Somers-town.

ROBERT THOMAS . I live in Spur's-place, Somers-town. I remember the prisoner calling on me on a Sunday between four and five o'clock—he asked if I was going to Paddington—I said, "Yes;" we went together—I stopped with him till half-past nine—I asked him if he was coming home—he said he was not going home, he had got some of his master's money.

Cross-examined. Q. On what day did the prisoner come to you? A. On the Sunday—(the deposition being read stated, "On a Monday some time ago")—No it was on a Sunday—I do not know the prisoner's master—I have known the prisoner a long while—I have not heard he had been accused of taking money from his master.

Q. You say in your deposition, "On a Monday, some time ago, I heard of the prisoner being accused of having stolen his master's money;" now I ask you, have you not heard from some one else besides the prisoner, that he had taken money from his master? A. After the Monday I did—I have been in prison; on Monday night I was taken to Clerkenwell, I was kept there that night, and was discharged next morning—I was examined on this charge.

MR. BIRNIE. Q. Are you quite certain that Sunday was the day the

prisoner came, and you went to Paddington. A. Yes; I do not remember the day of the month—it was about six weeks ago, about the middle of Oct.—after that, I heard that he was accused—it was not on the Monday, but some time after, that I heard of this.

JAMES ABRAHAM (policeman, S 296). On 11th Nov., I saw the prisoner running down Denton-street—I ran after him, and said, "Mike!"—he continued running about twenty yards—I called again "Mike!"—he turned and said, "My name is not Mike"—I said, "You are the boy accused of robbing your master"—he said, "My master, when?"—I said, "Yes, Mr. Clark, of Somers-town, about a month ago; what have you done with the money?"—he said, "It is gone."

Cross-examined. Q. Did you not say, "Where is it?" and he said, "It is gone?"A. I said, "Mike, what have you done with the money?" and he said, "That is gone"—I am sure I used the word "money."

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Twelve Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-140
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty; Guilty > unknown
SentenceTransportation; Imprisonment

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140. WILLIAM MILLER and LUKE VIGO , stealing 1 handkerchief, value 4s.; the goods of Henry Pollard Palmer, from his person; Miller having been before convicted: to which

MILLER pleaded GUILTY .**— Transported for Seven Years.

HENRY POLLARD PALMER . I live in Wood-street, and am an accountant. On 18th Nov., about half-past six o'clock, I was going along Goswell-street—an officer gave me information, and I missed my handkerchief—I saw Miller struggling with him—the officer showed me my handkerchief—this is it(produced).

THOMAS EVANS (policeman, G 145). About half-past six o'clock on 18th Nov., I saw the prisoners in Goswell-street with a third—I watched them about twenty minutes, and saw them follow several gentlemen—I saw them all three follow Mr. Pollard up Goswell-street—Miller was next the houses, the other two on the side of him—I saw Miller take the handkerchief out of his pocket, I laid hold of him; the other two ran away—this is the handkerchief—I have known Vigo these five years—I am sure he is the man who was with Miller—I had seen them together about twenty minutes.

JOHN REEVE (policeman, A 424). I took Vigo about half-past eight o'clock at night, on 18th Nov., at the Pigeons—I told him I wanted him for being concerned with another person in stealing a pocket-handkerchief in Goswell-street—he said, "Very well, I will go with you"—as we went along, he said, "Who is the other one?"—I said, "Little Roberts"—he said, "Well, I was with him in the evening."

VIGO— GUILTY.* †— Confined Twelve Months.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-141
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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141. HENRY REUBEN , unlawfully obtaining goods by false pretences.

EDWARD MAPPIN . I carry on business with my two brothers in partnership, in Moorgate-street; we are manufacturing cutlers. On 4th Oct. the prisoner came into the warehouse, and said he wanted some goods—I had done business with him before for his father, and I concluded it was so now—he had some razors, scissors, and penknives—I gave him the parcel of goods and the invoice in the name of Mr. Reuben, or Mr. J. Reuben, I cannot remember which; it was intended for his father.

WILLIAM HENRY TREW . I am in the service of Mr. Richard Ellerby, of Huggin-lane. On 28th Oct. the prisoner came to the warehouse, and said he

wished to look out some goods for his father, Mr. Reuben, of Dover—I knew the name—he had half-a-dozen cashmere scarfs, and other goods to the amount of 11l.—he directed me to send them to Mr. Hart's, in the Borough—he afterwards said, "I will take them with me," but I had not got them ready, and I said I would send them immediately—I sent them by Frederick Card.

Prisoner. Q. Did you receive a letter from Dover? A. Yes; I cannot say whether it was your signature that was to it.

FREDERICK CARD . On 28th Oct., Mr. Trew gave me the parcel to take to Mr. Hart's, but a porter came in and brought this card of Mr. Reuben's, of Dover, and said he came from him—I gave him the goods.

JACOB REUBEN . I carry on business at Dover; the prisoner is my son. On 4th Oct. I had not given him orders or authority to order goods at Mr. Mappin's or at Mr. Ellerby's—I do not think we dealt in cutlery then.

Prisoner. Q. Did you not leave me as foreman to attend to your business? A. You did for a certain time—I cannot remember whether you were so in Oct.—I hardly know who was the person who gave orders to travellers—you have been away from my shop for ten weeks without any occasion—you have purchased goods for me, certainly—you ate and drank with the family, and had whatever clothes you wanted, and seven or eight shillings a week pocket-money—I employed you formerly to order things, but not latterly—I do not know that I had ever told you not to order, things for me, or that I have forbidden it, but when you absented yourself there was an end of it.

Prisoner's Defence. My father had on all occasions allowed me to give orders; I had a character from the Chief Governor of Jamaica.

GUILTY. Aged 21.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury.)—

Confined Six Months .

THIRD COURT.—Tuesday, December 3rd, 1850.



Before Russell Gurney, Esq., and the Fourth Jury.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-142
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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142. JAMES HANSBURY , unlawfully assaulting Henry Milton, a peace-officer, in the execution of his office.

GEORGE HARKINS (policeman D 73). On the night of 6th Nov. I was on duty near Grove-street, and in consequence of hearing a cry of "Murder!" I went to 14, Little Grove-street, with Milton, and found the prisoner's father standing at the door in his shirt—in consequence of what he said, we went into the back-yard in search of the prisoner—Milton was looking into the wash-house for him—I heard something on the wall on the opposite side, looked up and saw the prisoner throw this stone(produced) on to Milton's back—it knocked him down into the wash-house—I picked him up and he was almost senseless—he came round in a minute or two—I went into the next yard, and the prisoner said, "Here I am"—I told him he must go with me to the station—he went a few steps and then kicked me on the leg, and tried to escape—I used my staff, and took him to the station.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Had he been drinking? A. He was drunk—I am sure he was on the wall—I was within a few yards of him—the wall is nearly eleven feet high—I got on the wall afterwards, and there were no loose stones; I walked along it myself—there were no other stones there like this—I am not mistaken about the prisoner being the person—Milton had his lamp on, and the prisoner's father had a candle at the back-door—if the stone had been knocked off with his feet, it would not have come half so far.

COURT. Q. How far was Milton from the wall when he was struck? A.Seven feet at the least.

HENRY MILTON ( policeman, D 165). I went with the last witness on hearing the cry of "Murder!"—I saw the prisoner's father, and went into the yard—while looking into the wash-house, I received a very heavy blow at the back of my neck; I did not see where it came from—I have done no duty since.

GEORGE WILSON . I am a surgeon, at 32, Baker-street. I was called to see Milton, and found him very much hurt and almost insensible from a blow he had received between the shoulders—I have attended him ever since—he has recovered now, but has not yet been returned as fit for duty.

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Six Months .

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-143
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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143. THOMAS HOPE , unlawfully assaulting Mary Ann Ginn, aged six years, with intent, &c.

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Twelve Months .

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-144
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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144. JAMES WILSON and CHARLES RIVERS , unlawfully breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Thomas Mayo, with intent to steal.

MR. THOMPSON conducted the Prosecution.

ELIZABETH ALLEN . I am in the service of Mr. Park, of 35, Wimpole-street, which does not quite face No. 56, where Dr. Mayo lives; it is a few doors down on the other side of the way. On 20th Nov., about eight in the evening, I was in Great Marylebone-street, coming from High-street towards Wimpole-street, and the two prisoners passed me two doors from Wimpole-street, and turned down the street on the side Dr. Mayo lives, nearest to High-street—I crossed over to the side nearest Portland-place—the prisoners were in company, and as I was passing on the other side of the street they were standing at Dr. Mayo's door—I had noticed them go to the door—they appeared to be opening it with a key—I saw the door opened while they were standing there, and Rivers turned back down the street and went to Great Marylebone-street, and Wilson went into the house—he remained in the house four or five minutes, came out, closed the door, returned to the corner of Marylebone-street, and stayed there a moment I suppose—I did not then see Rivers, he had left the corner and gone down Great Marylebone-street—I met John Lee at the corner of Wimpole-street and Great Marylebone-street, made a communication to him, told a policeman, and I and he followed Wilson down Marylebone-street till we came to Westmoreland-street, between Wimpole-street and High-street—I then saw the prisoners again together at a public-house door, at the corner of Westmoreland-street and pointed them out to the policeman.

Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN. Q. How long had you been out? A. I went out about seven—the two men I speak of were going in the same direction as myself—I did not see their faces.

CHARLES LEE . I am a glass-cutter at 13, Bayham-street, Camden-town. On 20th of Nov., about eight o'clock I was in Great Marylebone-street, going across Wimpole-street, and at the corner of Wimpole-street saw Allen, who made a communication to me, and pointed out these two young men, who were going towards Welbeck-street—one was about twenty doors from Wimpole-street—I watched Wilson till he got nearly facing Welbeck-street and Marylebone-street when he met Rivers—they talked together, and went down Welbeck-street—I met a policeman and we both kept our eye on them till we got to Little Welbeck-street, and there, with the assistance of another policeman, they were taken.

Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN. Q. Is the public-house where they were taken, at the corner of Welbeck-street? A. Little Welbeck-street—they met a little before they got to Welbeck-street, at a public-house on the right-hand side—I could not see exactly how Rivers came there—from the time I saw them together I did not lose sight of them till the police-men took them.

JOHN WARD (policeman, A 337). The prisoners were pointed out to me by the two last witnesses—they were just coming oat of the Duke of York at the corner of Great Marylebone-street and Westmoreland-street—I followed them to the corner of Little Welbeck-street, towards Cavendish-square —I there saw Glide, and we took the prisoners into custody—I took a piece of wax-taper from Wilson's coat-pocket—at the station I searched Wilson and found a chisel, 2d., some lucifer-matches, a paper, and a large black cotton bag—when I stopped Wilson, I said, "I have been informed you have been letting yourselves into a house in Wimpole-street"—he said, Me?"—I said, "Yes"—he said, "I have not."

WILLIAM GLIDE (policeman, D 153). I was on duty in Welbeck-street, and was called by Ward, and took Rivers—I found on him six keys, half a sovereign, five shillings, and sixpence, a comb, tobacco-box, silk hand-kerchief, and a watch-key—I afterwards tried the keys to Dr. Mayo's door, and found two out of the six fitted it—when I took the keys from Rivers, he said, "You have got all you want; I have nothing else about me."

Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN. Q. What pocket did you take the keys from? A. His coat-pocket, outside.

CHARLES BATTERSBY (policeman, D 4). On the evening of 20th Nov., about half-past seven, I saw the prisoners at the corner of Weymouth-street, and Wimpole-street, about six doors from Dr. Mayo's—it occurred to me that they were staying there in rather a suspicious manner, and I crossed, over and looked at them—they walked into High-street, and I followed them into Great Marylebone-street, in the direction of Dr. Mayo's again—they walked away fast, and that did away with the suspicion, and I left them within about fifty yards of Dr. Mayo's house—that was about twenty minutes to eight—Weymouth-street is the next turning to Marylebone-street.

CHARLES PEARSON . I am butler in the service of Dr. Thomas Mayo, of 56, Wimpole-street, in St. Marylebone parish. On 20th Nov. my master had a dinner-party—I recollect Glide bringing me nine or ten keys, which he tried to the door, and two of them opened it—there is no other means of opening the door but by a key—on that evening, between seven and eight, I believe it was fast in the usual way.

Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN. Q. What was the dining hour? A.

Seven—there was a good deal of property in the front hall, cloaks and hats, no plate—nothing was touched—the latch is a drop one.

MR. THOMPSON. Q. I suppose between seven and eight the servants were passing in and out of the passage? A. Yes; there are folding doors dividing the front and back halls—the dining-room is in the front hall.

Rivers's statement before the Magistrate was here read:("I hope you will deal lightly with me this time.")

Wilson's Defence. I never was in the house, or hear it.


CHARLES STEPHENS . I am a builder at Gravesend—I have resided there twelve years, and have built a great many streets there myself—I know Rivers and his family: they are respectable—I understand Rivers was taken in custody on 20th Nov.—on that day I had an appointment with him at four o'clock, and I had called on him in the morning, about ten o'clock, at his lodgings, at a public-house in Bishopsgate-street, between the church and Sun-street, up a passage—I called on him, to send a letter to Mr. Grogan, house-agent, of 33, Conduit-street, and get an answer relative to an offer for a coffee-house I had been negociating about with Mr. Grogan for Rivers—I met Rivers between four and five, at a beer-shop, in Broad-street, St. Giles; he then had this letter for me—(read—"33, Conduit-street, Nov. 20, 1850.—Sir, my client will take fifty-five guineas per annum, and the rent to commence from Christmas, I am yours, William Grogan—To Mr. Stephens.")—I remained in his company up to within five or ten minutes to eight o'clock, as near as possible—I said to him, "You had better go to Grogan, to see if you can get the house for less money," and we walked up there—I waited outside while he went in—he said "Grogan will not take less than sixty guineas of me; it is a very strange thing he offered it at fifty-five to you"—it was a very wet night, and we went to the Argyle Arms, Argyle-street, at the top of Oxford-street—we remained there up to about a quarter to eight, and I walked with him as far as Goodge-street, Tottenham-court-road, where I parted with him, making an appointment to meet him next morning, at a beer-shop in Broad-street, and settle finally about the shop; that was five or ten minutes after I left the Argyle Arms—I went the next morning, and was astonished what had become of him—I did not hear till the Saturday that he was in custody.

Cross-examined by MR. THOMPSON. Q. Are you any relation of the prisoner's? A. His uncle—he did not, to my knowledge, keep a coffee-shop in the Waterloo-road two years and a half ago—I did not see him for ten years, because I and the family were not friendly—the beer-shop where I met the prisoner, is kept by a man named Connel, a stranger to me—I do not know of the prisoner going by the name of Arnold Russell, or Jackson—we did not remain at the beer-shop above ten minutes or a quarter of an hour—I was outside the Court with Mr. Grogan when the witnesses for the prosecution were examined—I am staying at 45, Charles-street, City-road—we went to the Argyle Rooms about half-past five o'clock, because it rained very much—that was in my route from Conduit-street to 4, Charles-street, Bedford-square, where I was going to see a gentleman who I am building some houses for, and of which this is the agreement (produced)—I do not know where the prisoner went when I left him.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Have you been concerned in building on the ground recently let by Alderman Harmer? A. Yes: no one knows better than you do that I have recently received about 700l. for damages, for which I have to thank you—I pay between 200l. and 300l. a year in taxes.

WILLIAM GROGAN . I am a house-agent, at 33, Conduit-street. I have seen Mr. Stephens, he subpoenaed me here yesterday, and I saw, him on one occasion before—I recollect writing a letter to Mr. Stephens on 20th Nov., and delivering it to a man—it was in answer to one I had found on my arrival at the office—I destroyed that one last Saturday—it was about this coffee-house—I understood it to be a bona fide offer for the coffee-house—I delivered the answer to the man somewhere about four o'clock.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you remember by whom you sent it? A. No—I should say it was not Rivers—the letter was addressed from Chenies-street, Bedford-square, not from the City-road.

CHARLES STEPHENS re-examined. The gentleman who I am building twenty houses for, the agreement of which I produce, lives at Chenies-street, and it his brother at Charles-street, City-road—I am known at Chenies-street.

COURT. Q. What clock did you see at the Argyle Arms? A. A clock in the house—it was a quarter to eight o'clock within a minute or so—I know when I got to Chenies-street, it was five minutes past eight by a clock in the house there—I noticed the time, because I was to be there at eight.

CHARLES BATTERSBY re-examined. I am quite confident these are the, two persons I saw—I knew Rivers before, by the name of Arnold Russell.



Confined Two Years .

(The inspector of Bloomsbury parish, police-inspector Gray, A. and policemen L 94 and F 42, stated that Rivers had been twice convicted in the names of Jackson and Russell, and transported for seven years, and received two years imprisonment; and that Wilson had been four times tried, and had received twelve months' and one month's confinement.)


Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-145
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation; Guilty > with recommendation

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145. ELLEN COLLINS and RICHARD COLLINS , unlawfully' uttering counterfeit coin.

MR. PLATT conducted the Prosecution.

GEORGE HENRY ALLWAY . I am shopman to Messrs. Tomlinson and Budd, pawnbrokers at Barking. Between six and seven o'clock in the evening of 1st Nov., the two prisoners came to the shop; the woman tendered me these two half-crowns in payment for some articles—I told her they were bad, and there was something said about the interest on the articles being 6d. more—Mr. Budd came into the shop—I saw a bag in the woman's hand, I seized it and turned it out; there were four bad shillings in it, and some good money—Mr. Budd sent for a policeman, and

the prisoners were given in charge—I marked the money in the presence of the policeman, and gave it to him.

WILLIAM BUDD . I was in the shop—I heard a dispute with this woman, and I found two bad half-crowns—I said, "These are bad, where did you get them from?"—she said she got them from some young woman—my young man took the bag and shook out the contents—there were four bad shillings in it, and some good money—the woman said, "If you don't like the two half-crowns, give them me back"—I said I should not; I sent for the officer, and gave them into custody.

HENRY MILSTEAD (police-sergeant, K 12). I was sent for to Mr. Budd's; and the prisoners were given into my charge—I received these two half-crowns and four shillings—they were marked and given to me—Richard Collins said, "I don't know anything of it; I don't know how she came by them."

WILLIAM WEBSTER . I am inspector of coin to the Royal Mint. These coins are all bad, and the shillings are from the same mould.

Ellen Collins's Defence. A young woman asked me to mind this money for her, and said, "If you want to lay out any, you can;" I said I had some things in pawn I wanted to pay for; I took 13s., and put it in the bag where her money was; I did not know it was bad.

Richard Collins's Defence. The woman came into my house, and gave my wife the money, unknown to me; we do not know where she is.

WILLIAM BUDD re-examined. They mentioned the name of Naney Car-rotty, as the person they received it from—I do not know such a person—I asked where she was, they said they did not know—the prisoners have been customers of mine for three or four years—I never heard anything against them—the man did farming work, and used to buy and sell rabbit skins.



Recommended to mercy by the Jury.— Confined Three Months .

Before Mr. Recorder.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-146
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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146. JOHN HOWARD , stealing 1 work-box, and other articles, value 1l.; the goods of William Anderton.

MR. PLATT conducted the Prosecution.

MARTHA ANDERTON . I am the wife of William Anderton, he keeps a coffee-shop and eating-house, at Stratford. On 16th Nov. the prisoner came to the shop at twelve o'clock at night, with a young woman—they sat down and had some coffee—in a short time the young woman went out in the back-yard—shortly after she had gone, I missed the prisoner, and I heard some persons outside talking loudly—I sent a woman to tell them to come in, and the young woman came in—she had not a shawl on then, but she had when she first came—she wanted to go out for it, and I said the young man would bring it in with him, and I would not allow her to go out again—I then opened the back-door, and asked him to come in—he was then standing opposite the parlour window—I was then standing with my back to the parlour-door, to prevent the girl from going out, and I heard a noise in the back parlour—I went in with a lighted candle, and found the shutters were open, and the sash lifted up—I saw the prisoner standing outside the room, opposite the window—he had this work-box partly outside the window—I took it from him; it is my husband's property—it contained some thread and thimbles, and other articles—the

shutters of that room had been closed about six o'clock in the evening—I took the box from the prisoner's hand; he escaped—I gave information, and he was taken afterwards—I had seen the box on a small work-table just under the window, perhaps two hours before—a person like the prisoner could have put his hand in that window and reached the box where it was—the prisoner came to my house again in about a quarter of an hour with the girl—I do not think be said anything then—on the Sunday morning he came and said he was very sorry for what he had done; he said I had not lost any thing, and what good would it be to me to imprison him for two or three months—I said, it was no goodness of his that I had lost nothing.

Cross-examined by MR. COCKLE. Q. When you got back the box it was closed? A. Yes; there was a pencil-case in it, and several little things that I use—I know the girl had a shawl taken from her, as she said —I did not know her name—she had a shawl when she went into the yard, and not when she returned—the noise I heard was not of opening the window, it was the things falling out of the work-box—I did not see this man getting out of the window; his arm was in it—he escaped—it was twelve o'clock on Saturday that this occurred.

COURT. Q. Was the prisoner in liquor or not? A. He had just come from a public-house—I think he was a little in liquor—I found some things out of my box—I picked up two silver thimbles, and a penknife.

JAMES RANDALL (policeman, K. 324) About one o'clock in the morning I was called by Mrs. Anderton who gave him into my custody for stealing the work-box—as I was taking him to the station he made his escape—he was afterwards taken by sergeant Manning, who is not here.

COURT to MARTHA ANDERTON. Q. Who was in your house besides yourself? A. Three or four other men—my husband was not at home—I had a woman assisting me—the prisoner had been at my house several times on a Saturday evening.

(The prisoner received a good character.) GUILTY. Aged 19.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury. Confined One Month

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

25th November 1850
Reference Numbert18501125-147
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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147. ROBERT HOLLAND , robbery with violence on Ann Weir, and stealing 1 watch, and other articles, value 12l.; the goods of Edward Weir.

MR. RYLAND conducted the Prosecution.

ANN WEIR . I am the wife of Edward Weir, who lives in Windmill-lane, Stratford, in the parish of West Ham—I know the prisoner—on Monday evening, 4th Nov., I was in the back kitchen about eight o'clock—there is a door which opens from that to a street by the side of the house—I had a gold chain round my neck—there were two seats and a key, and a ring attached to it, and a silver watch—I had a brooch in my gown—I had the candle in my hand—I walked to the safe to get out the supper—the side door was ajar—I did not see the prisoner—he came in, and came behind me—he said, "You b——, you shall pay for all"—he took hold of me by the throat, took the brooch from my gown, and the watch and seals, and chain from my neck—the chain must have broken—I did not hear anything fall, but they were all gone from me—the prisoner had the watch in his hand, and he was going out—I screamed "Murder!" and my husband stopped him, and took the watch from him—I afterwards

saw the two seals, and key, and ring found against the side door, and the prisoner's cap; it must be his cap, no other person was there—there was no cap lying there before he came—I have seen the watch and chain, and other things since, but I have not seen the brooch—they were worth about 12l.

Cross-examined by MR. COCKLE