Old Bailey Proceedings, 19th September 1842.
Reference Number: t18420919
Reference Number: f18420919






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On the Queen's Commission of the Peace,



The City of London,





Held on Monday, September 19th, 1842, and following Days.

Before the Right Honourable Sir JOHN PIRIE , Bart., LORD MAYOR of the City of London; Sir William Wightman, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Queen's Bench; Sir Creswell Creswell, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; Sir William Heygate, Bart.; Sir Peter Laurie. Knt.; William Taylor Copeland, Esq.; and Sir Chapman Marshall, Knt.; Aldermen of the said City: the Honourable Charles Ewan Law, Recorder of the said City: Thomas Wood, Esq.; John Humphery, Esq.; Michael Gibbs, Esq.; and Thomas Farncombe, Esq.; Aldermen of the said City: John Mirehouse, Esq., Common Sergeant of the said City; and Edward Bullock, Esq., Judge of the Sheriff's Court; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.


First Jury

John Barnes

James Snee

Samuel Collingwood

John Barrow

Job Cooper

William Taafe

William Baker

George Michael Barclay

Corbet Cook

William Benham

William Joshua Tilley

Edwin Stokes.

Second Jury.

John Passmore Banks

Harry Court

Richard Dale

Thomas Arnott

James Basire

George M. Bateman

Charles Cook

George Crooks

Mark Cordwell

Edward Barker

Robert J. Coltman

William Girling Bale

Third Jury.

John Holcroft

John Hangwell

Ebenezer Raven

Frederick Underwood

Charles Brewerton

Michael Bath

Henry Ball

Edward Collins

Richard Atkinson

Thomas Bayles

Robert Baldock

Henry Dugsdale

Fourth Jury.

Francis Bean

James Cooper

Daniel Cronin

Henry Dobbin

William Daris

George Drake

Joseph Drake

Henry Bartley

Thomas Cooper

Joseph P. Brignell

John Dizon

John George Bates

Fifth Jury.

Robert Froggart

James Coulderey

Francis Bays

Samuel Brown

Richard Taylor

Elisha Hambler

William Henry Carter

John Ballantine

Thomas Dalton

James Myatt

Henry Sidney Down

James Bradshaw

Sixth Jury.

Joseph Tucker

Thomas Dawson

Rowland Darby

James Moxam Davey

Thomas Davies

Joseph Vincent Tucker

John M'Comie

George Allingham

John Carter

George Curry

John Williamson

Thomas Ackerman



A star (*) denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—Two stars (**) that they have been more than once in custody—An obelisk (†) that a prisoner is known to be the associate of bad characters.


OLD COURT.—Monday and Tuesday, September 19th and 20th, 1842.

First Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

Reference Number: t18420919-2573


MESSRS. BODKIN, DOANE, and JONES, conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS ALLEY JONES . I am articled clerk to Mr. Eden, and am acquainted with Mr. Lawrence, a very highly respectable gentleman, and his family, at Hammersmith—he was a conveyancer formerly, but is very old and infirm, and has retired from practice. In April, last year, I was introduced by him to the defendant Fuller, who stated to me that he was in difficulties, that his father-in-law, Mr. Chamberlain, had cheated him out of about 2000l., which be was entitled to by his marriage, and bad got him also to sign a something for 1600l., a release of some property which he was entitled to, and that he had sold the property, and let him have 1600l.—he first lent him 600l., and afterwards 1000l., but I understood, in the whole, 2000l.—he said he had employed Saunders and Woolley, the assignees under his estate—that they had agreed to fit up his shop for 700l., but afterwards induced him to give accommodation-bills, promising to take them up, if he could not, when they came to maturity, to the amount of about 1300l.—he said Mr. Reeve, of the firm of Walters and Reeve, who were relations of Saunders and Co., had served writs for the amount of two bills, one of 500l., and one of 250l., and they had also served him with notices in bankruptcy, but be said, "Instead of serving me, I expected something of the sort; my brother was in the shop, and they served them on my brother instead of myself"—he said he was at variance with his father-in-law, and requested me to see Mr. Chamberlain, for the purpose of seeing if I could bring about a reconciliation between them—I went to Chamberlain—I did not succeed at that time—he requested me to call again, and he would give me a different account of the whole transaction—before I called again I had an interview with Fuller's father—I accompanied him to Reeve, on the 10th of April, to the best of my recollection—Fuller made a very fair proposition, as I thought—Reeve said, "I am on the

right side of the hedge, I shall not accept any such terms; I shall go on, and obtain judgment and execution"—but I had been informed by Fuller the defendant, that the notices had not been served on him, and I said to Reeve, "The notices you have served are of no service, they are not legal"—Reeve said, "Then I will send an officer into Mr. Fuller's house, and he shall not leave till he serves him"—I said, "Very well, that convinces me what Fuller has said is correct, that these bills were accommodation-bills, placed in your hands for the mere purpose of suing for them"—I saw Chamberlain again a day or two afterwards—he said Fuller had sent his wife to him, and told her to say that he was about to be made a bankrupt, and unless he (Chamberlain) sent in an execution on the securities he held, he would lose the whole of his money—in consequence of what he said, I went down to Sleaford, to see Mr. Holding, an attorney—Chamberlain said he was not aware of what securities he had, and I went down to ascertain—I know Capes and Steward—they are agents to Holding—on the 19th of April, after seeing Holding, Capes and Co. issued an execution—Mr. Eden was engaged after this by Mr. William Fuller, the father of the defendant, to strike a docket—I went from Mr. Eden's then, in company with Mr. Fuller, to strike the docket against the son on a bill—there was an assignment made to the Sheriff on the 29th—Chamberlain took possession of the premises in Regent-street, where Fuller had been carrying on business as a shawl-dealer—on the day possession was taken of the premises, Fuller went to Mr. Lawrence's, at Hammersmith, and Hoad was left in possession—the shop-goods were sold by tender, by Mr. Chamberlain, such as shawls and silks, to Hitchcock, in Regent-street, and afterwards there was a sale by auction—I remember the second fiat being issued, on the day the sale took place, by Mr. Bingham, on the 2nd of May—I was present at the sale—before the bankruptcy I was admiring the shop, and Fuller said, "Any thing you wish to purchase out of my shop, you shall have at cost price"—that was not after the commission was issued—I bought various articles of him—to the best of my recollection, there was Robson's Directory, and the Royal Blue Book—I did not buy a pair of snuffers and a tray, or a slab before the bankruptcy—I bought two mouseline-de-laine dresses for Miss Lawrence, which I was after wards charged with stealing—I called on Miss Lawrence—in consequence of what she said, I went to Fuller, to bring down for her the two dresses she had been looking at—I told him they were for her—I paid him for them—I had no receipt—I took them to her—on recollection, one was 12s., and the other 14s. or 16s.—one was a sort of drab dress—I paid the money to Fuller—I cannot tell exactly the date of the transaction-it was in April, 1841—it was certainly before the levy was made, before the 19th of April—on the 6th of May Mr. Bingham sold the household goods and furniture, which had been assigned by the Sheriff—I bought a sundry lot at the auction, which included a marble slab, about 9 inches by 14—the umbrella-stand was a separate lot—I also bought a door-mat—I believe that was at the second sale, I cannot say—I did not buy any sheets—I have a list of the articles I did buy—I showed it to Chamberlain—I have a list of the articles I bought from Bingham—there were some hassocks, a glass, an umbrella-stand, a mat, and a piece of marble—I have been charged with stealing those articles—I showed this list to Mr. Chamberlain, I believe on the day, or the day after I received it from Bingham—I showed it to him at Mr. Lawrence's, in October—Chamberlain said I had given too much for

some of the articles, and made some alteration in the price—that was the next night, on the same night as I received it from Bingham—Hoad was left in possession of the premises in Regent-street—Mr. Chamberlain met me one morning, I believe it was the 23rd of September, 1841, at Mr. Lawrence's, and asked if I would have the kindness to call at Regent-street, to pay Hoad his wages, discharge him, and desire him to pack up what trifling articles there were about the premises, and send them down by the carrier—I paid Hoad, and told him he was to leave on Thursday, and to pack up the articles, and send them by the carrier to Mr. Chamberlain, who had taken a house at Hammersmith, and I told Hoad to send me down the marble slab and umbrella-stand at the same time—after I had paid the man his wages he said, "There is something more due to me for washing"—I said, "Make out your bill, I will pay you"—I did so—he said, "There is a pair of snuffers and tray on the dresser, will you take them to Mr. Chamberlain?"—I said, "Yes," and he gave them me—I put them in my pocket, and went down to Hammersmith in the evening in the omnibus, and called at Mr. Lawrence's, where I met Chamberlain—I took the snuffers and stand out of my pocket, handed them to Chamberlain, and said, "Here is the snuffers and tray Hoad has sent you, and the other articles he has sent down by the carrier"—I gave them to him and he put them, as well as I can recollect, on the dumb waiter in the corner of the parlour, and took them away with him about half an hour after—a day or two after the carrier had brought some things to my house, I called at Chamberlain's, and told him the carrier had brought some of the articles which should have been left at his house, to my house—I bad not given the carrier directions to call at Regent-street to get the things in the first place—Chamberlain bad in my presence—that was, I believe,-about the 24th or 25th of September—it was on the 23rd I had brought the snuffeid down, and the next day or the day after I was at Chamberlain's, one morning—he told me he had sent his servant down to the carrier to inquire if he had brought the articles, and while I was there the carrier called—Chamberlain told him to bring the articles down—a list was given—I cannot say whether by me or Chamberlain—I cannot tell how it was they were brought to my house—it was not by my direction—they were afterwards sent to Chamberlain's—I called the same morning and told him the carrier had left them at my house, and requested him to send Hooper, his servant's brother, for them, and he did call, and while I was at his house that night I saw them brought up, and Mrs. Chamberlain came up and. said they were all right—out of those articles I was afterwards charged with stealing the umbrella-stand, and a bag which contained the sheets—I had bought the umbrella-stand, but Chamberlain said he had purchased an umbrella-stand at Fuller's, and had desired him to send it to him, and he had not—I said, "Very well, you shall have it," and I let him have it—it only cost a few shillings—I had bought it, but gave up my purchase to Chamberlain, and he had it—I had advanced money to Chamberlain—I had paid various sums on his account—I paid 100l. bill—altogether 630l. paid for and advanced to him—one evening Chamberlain said at Mr. Lawrence's, "What you wish to purchase out of the sale Mr. Bingham will value; if you take them at his valuation I shall be perfectly satisfied, it will save me the auction duty, or, if you prefer it, buy them in for me, and you take them at the bought-in price"—he then said, "You are the only friend I have in

the world—after I have sold my reversionary property I will pay you what I owe you, and will make you a present of 100l. worth of plate into the bargain"—it was in consequence of his telling me I might buy at Bingham's valuation that I purchased the things I have named—I thought they were going very cheap—I bought the hassocks and things in this list, and have them now, except the umbrella-stand, which was sold to me at the first sale—the mat, the piece of marble, and the umbrella-stand, which I was charged with stealing, are in this list—I received this list from the auctioneer, signed by him—the last time I advanced money to Mr. Chamberlain was in the latter end of last November, I believe—he wanted me to lend him 10l.—I refused to lend him any more unless he would give me security for the 10l., and also for the sums I had advanced—he said, "I shall be enabled to pay you 50l. in a month"—I said, "If I lend you 10l. you will be able to pay me 60l. in a month"—he said, "Yes"—I said, "You will accept a bill for the amount"—he said, "Yes"—I took it to him and he refused to accept it—I commenced an action against him in December—I had not seen Fuller for a length of time before I brought the action—I do not know where he was, he was not to be seen—after I commenced the action he and Chamberlain became very intimate—I saw them walking about the streets together—I remember my house being searched on the 3rd of January—I had not been before the Commissioner of Bankruptcy before that—it was immediately after I sued Chamberlain that the house was searched—I was not at home then—I was at Mr. Lawrence's, very dangerously ill at the time—while I was there Fuller, Reeve, and a messenger, as he called himself, from the Court of Bankruptcy, came to search Mr. Lawrence's house at Hammersmith—about seven or eight o'clock in the evening there was a very violent knocking at the door—they took away a book which Fuller had given me—it was the Analogy of the Old and New Testaments—also some little tassels that appeared to me like bell-tassels, and a piece of mouseline-de-laine, part of one of the very dresses I had bought of Fuller—there were some muslin curtains brought down which Fuller said were in the house—Mrs. Lawrence said, "Yes, there is," and desired the servant to go and fetch them down, which she did—Fuller said they were not his, and they did not take them away—they were white muslin curtains—I should think on that occasion they were at Lawrence's house two hours or more—they gave no intimation whatever to me that they had a search warrant for my house—I was in conversation with Reeve—the next step they took was to go to my house, and search—I was not present—after the 3rd of January summonses were served—I was summoned to the Bankruptcy Court to give evidence a few days after—I went before Mr. Commissioner Merivale, and was examined—there was an adjournment first—Miss Lawrence was examined—that was about the 12th of January—at the close of the examination Fuller was examined at my request—I heard him give his evidence—Reeve was present—Fuller was examined on the 26th of January, and in consequence of what took place I indicted him for perjury at the January sessions, which commenced, I think, on the 30th—after I preferred the indictment against him, I saw no more of him—he was gone out of the way—I heard he went to Ostend—I did all I could to find him, but could not—in the very same month Chamberlain filed a bill in Chancery against me—It was postponed by some means till the 18th of June, when it stood for trial by a special jury, in the Court of Queen's Bench—I saw all the defendants

there, except Mrs. Fuller—it was not tried that day—it was afterwards fixed by the Court, at the application of Mr. Kelly, my counsel, and appointed for Thursday, the 23rd of June—Saturday was the 18th, as well as I can recollect—the defendants left me early in the afternoon, and I went to Hammersmith, and that evening saw the male defendants, and one not in custody, and two or three policemen, and a crowd about them—it was the very day the trial was expected, and was postponed till the 23rd—in consequence of what I heard I went to the Kensington Police Court on the Monday—a person calling himself the clerk of Reeve appeared against me, and applied to postpone the examination till the following Wednesday—I appeared then, and Reeve, Fuller, and Chamberlain preferred a charge against me—Reeve said he should defer the charge on which I was apprehended that very morning, (for the officer met me, and said, "You are my prisoner,") and charged me with felony—I was apprehended on the Monday as I was going to the office—Reeve then charged me with stealing from a box the mouseline-de-laine dresses, and the pomatum-pot—I had been apprehended on the charge of obtaining goods by false pretences—the articles were produced—that was one of the dresses I bad obtained from Fuller, and paid him for—the pomatum-pot I know nothing of—it was not the pot which had been taken by the messenger from my house, and which I had seen before on the table with the other articles, before the Commissioner of Bankruptcy—I had never seen it before—the one before the Magistrate was not the one which had been at my house—I believe they had changed it—the one taken from my house was my property—I know which pot they took from my house, because it was mentioned, and I missed a china pomatum-pot—at Kensington, before the magistrates, I took it up, looked at it,"and was persuaded it was so, as I knew nothing of it, and began to think they had changed it—I missed one which was mine, after the search—I believe it was the one I saw afterwards before the Commissioner—the one before the Magistrate I believe was not the same—I am sure the one before the Magistrate was not the same as that before the Commissioner—it was not anything like the one taken from my house—Mr. and Mrs. Fuller and Mr. Reeve were examined in support of the charge, and I think Miss Lawrence was examined—I have seen Fuller write, and know this—(looking at the deposition)—to be his handwriting.

JOHN WILLIAM NICHOLSON . I am clerk to the Magistrate at the Police Court, Kensington. I did not take down the depositions against the prosecutor at the first examination, which was the 22nd of June—I was present—the matter was adjourned to the 29th—I then acted as clerk, and took down correctly from the mouths of the parties what they said in the Magistrate's presence—these are part of the depositions—the rest were returned to this Court—I have the original in the case of felony, which was dismissed.

The depositions being read, "George Fuller deposed that in April, 1841, he was a shawl dealer in Regent-street, that in consequence of difficulties he consulted with T. A. Jones, that on 17th of April Miss Lawrence called on him, and in consequence of what he heard he consented that Jones should take away certain goods, being told by him that Chamberlain would most likely put in an executiou on the Monday; that he corded a yellow box then produced, and delivered it with other parcels to Jones; that a few days afterwards, being on a visit at Mr. Lawrence's, he there

saw the same box, opened it, and found it apparently in the same state, that it was sent to Manchester, where he afterwards saw it at his father's premises; that the property in it belonged to his creditors; that he Saw the pomatum pot found in Jones's house, marked it, and had it in his possession ever since.

Lawrence deposed, that he recollected sending three or four boxes from his house, by Jones, to the railroad.

Jane Sophia Matilda Fuller deposed, that on Saturday, the 17th of April, 1841, she saw the yellow box produced, packed; that it contained, among other articles, a china pomatum-pot similar to the one produced, and two mouseline-de-laine dresses, one of the same pattern as that produced; that she saw that box, with other parcels, put into a cab with Jones; that she afterwards saw it opened at Manchester, and immediately missed one of the dresses which she had placed there; that she had noticed it particularly, being one of the last articles put into the box.

Lucy Lawrence deposed, that in April, 1841, Jones gave her the dress produced, with another; that she had previously requested him to bring her two dresses from Fuller's; that she repeatedly wore those dresses in Fuller's presence, particularly after his return from Manchester, and that he told her he thought the buff dress would not wash; she also swore that the china pot was not the same as the one she had been previously examined about at the Bankruptcy Court.

George Fuller, being recalled, deposed, that it was the same pot Miss Lawrence was examined about at the Bankruptcy Court; that he had had the things in his possession since January, and that he had kept the pot in his portmanteau till he gave it to Mr. Reeve within the last month; that he did not recollect whether he gave it to him on the 22nd of June, or whether he took it to Ostend; he believed it was his wife's before they were married; and had heard her say a Mrs. Gundry gave it to her."

JOHN WILLIAM NICHOLSON continued. After these depositions were taken, the charge of felony was dismissed, and the charge of fraud was then gone into—the George Fuller who made the statement I have read was the defendant.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. How does Hoad's deposition come in the very same paper as this? A. I merely pinned them together to bring them from the office—I was present when they were sworn—they were prepared by Mr. Reeve—I was present when Hoad was sworn to this deposition—I do not know that I saw it signed.

MR. BODKIN. Q. After the charge of felony was dismissed by the Magistrate, what other charge was preferred against Mr. Jones? A. A charge of fraud—I have not got the minutes of what took place on that charge—they were taken and returned to this Court—after the witnesses were examined in that case, Mr. Jones was held to bail.

GEORGE CLIVE, ESQ . I am a Magistrate. I was presiding at Kensington when an application was made on this subject against Mr. Jones—I do not know whether it was the first application—there was, I believe, a search-warrant applied for before, of which I know nothing—a warrant was applied for on the 18th of June by Mr. Reeve—I do not know that he was accompanied by anybody on that occasion—he brought this paper ready written—I was present when Hoad was sworn to it—it was on that deposition of Hoad's, on Mr. Reeve's application, that the warrant was issued—Mr. Jones was brought before me under that warrant on Wednesday, the 22nd—some

witnesses were then examined, and the matter was adjourned to the 29th—a charge of felony was then preferred, which I dismissed—after that a charge of fraud was preferred by the same party—these are the depositions, which were correctly taken on that occasion—on that charge I held Mr. Jones to bail.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. You sat on the hearing of these inquiries from the beginning to the end? A. I did—when Mr. Reeve first came before me he represented himself as the attorney for the assignees of the bankruptcy—I believe he made mention of a search-warrant at the time, but his application was not very distinct—I heard a great deal of evidence on both sides—I did not commit on the charge of larceny—on the other charge I thought there was a case for a Jury—I do not know that any formal complaint was made that Mr. Reeve was showing some excitement on the occasion—I may have said that the fraud committed on the bankruptcy estate would abundantly account for the excitement on the part of the creditors, but I do not recollect saying so.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Was there from first to last any charge of stealing a pair of snuffers and tray? A. There was a great deal said about the snuffers and tray—I do not think they were mentioned on the first charge, but they were included in the charge of misdemeanor.

The depositions of the 18th of June being read, John Hoad deposed, that in 1841 he was in Fuller's service, upon whose bankruptcy he was afterwards placed in charge of the premises on Chamberlain's behalf, under an execution, where he remained from June till September, during which time he was frequently visited by Thomas Alley Jones, whom he believed to be Chamberlain's legal adviser; that about the beginning of September, by Jones's desire, he packed up, in three boxes', a marble slab, a pair of sheets, a table-cloth, a box of tools, a set of blacking brushes, a saw, and other articles, which were directed to "Jones, Grove-cottage, Hammersmith," which he delivered, with a bronze umbrella-stand, to the carrier; that on another occasion he handed to Jones a pair of snuffers and tray at his request, Jones stating that he was going to take them to Chamberlain.

William Napier Reeve deposed, that in April, 1841, a fraudulent fiat was issued against Fuller, under the control and with the assistance of Jones, which was subsequently set aside, and a new fiat issued, under which Alexander Saunders, of Regent-street, was appointed sole assignee; that in January he (Mr. R.) accompanied Thomas Hamber, the messenger of the Court of Bankruptcy, to search for concealed goods on Jones's premises, and there descried many articles, which Fuller identified as having been removed from his house in Regent-street, and among them a marble slab, and bronze umbrella-stand; that Jones subsequently stated, before Mr. Commissioner Merivale, that he had purchased the goods at the sale by Bingham, whereas he (Mr. R.) had just discovered that they had been removed from the premises by Jones, under a pretended direction from Chamberlain.

Perceval Hamilton Chamberlain deposed, that he never gave any such directions to Jones; that he claimed no property in the same, but, to the best of his belief, they belonged to the Fuller estate.

(The depositions of the 29th of June were then readt on which occasion John Hoad repeated the substance of his former deposition.)

George Fuller deposed, That he went with Mr. Hamber to Jones's; he

saw the marble slab there, which he considered was the property of his creditors.

Perceval Hamilton Chamberlain deposed, that he had an execution in Fuller's house; that before the first sale of Fuller's effects, he expressed a wish to Jones to have the marble slab, which had been on the stove in the shop, but was then removed; that Jones said it had been removed, and if it was in the bill of sale from the Sheriff, it did not belong to him (Chamberlain;) that he never gave Jones any authority to ask for any goods belonging to Fuller; if he did ask Jones to get any thing from Regent-street, they were only articles belonging to himself; and that he never received a pair of snuffers and tray from Jones, in Miss Lawrence's presence, at her house."

THOMAS ALLEY JONES re-examined. The dress that was spoken to before Mr. Clive, was one I had purchased of Fuller, to take to Miss Lawrence—I have seen her wear that dress, I should say fifty times, in the presence of all the defendants, except Mr. Reeve—I was examined about that dress before the Commissioners of Bankruptcy, by Mr. Reeve, and so was Miss Lawrence—the snuffers and tray were included in the charge of false pretences, because they were included in the affidavit on which the warrant was obtained—I surrendered at this Court to take my trial, first, on the charge of stealing the snuffers and tray—(Here the defendant, Mary Chamberlain, was acquitted by consent)—Hoad was a witness on that trial—I heard him cross-examined—the case was stopped—the Jury acquitted me, and said there was not the slightest imputation on my character—I was afterwards tried for obtaining goods by false pretences, and also acquitted on that—I have truly stated the mode in which the things I have mentioned came into my possession, as I have said, I purchased them through Mr. Bingham, the auctioneer.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. I suppose if my friend had asked if you had truly stated every thing, you would have said, "Yes." A. I have stated nothing here which is false—I have been articled to Mr. Eden about three years—I never acted as a legal adviser, until I was with Mr. Eden—I do not distinctly understand what you mean by a legal adviser—I do not know that I have ever taken goods or money for advice I have given—if you mean that I gave advice, either as an attorney or otherwise, and received money or goods for the advice I gave, I say, not at all—persons have applied to me, and probably have asked my opinion repeatedly—I have never been paid in pigs for what I have done—my name has been Thomas Alley Jones, I believe, ever since I was born, as long as I can remember myself—(looking at a paper)—looking at the signature only to this, I doubt its being my handwriting—it is no more like my signature than yours would be—you make me doubt about it, by putting it into my hands—if any person was to have put it into my hands in the street, and said, "Is that your signature?" I should decidedly have said, "No'—it may be mine—allow me to see the contents—the only reason why I would swear to my belief about its being my handwriting, is the dash underneath—the signature is no more like mine than yours would be—I cannot swear it is not my signature—from the character of the writing. I should say it was not—will you tell me when it was written?

Q. No, I will not—there is "Thomas A. Jones," is that your handwriting? A. I swear that has not been my signature for these ten years—I will not swear I did not write it—I know two or three people named

Curtis—I know a family of that name—I cannot tell whether I ever acted as legal adviser to a Mrs. Curtis—will you have the kindness to tell me about what time this receipt was given—I ask that question, on account of the name Curtis—if you would tell me about the time I wrote it, or who is the Mrs. Curtis, I should perhaps be able to judge whether it is my handwriting or not—from the writing, I should say it is not, and of the transaction I have no knowledge—I have now read it—I do not think it likely such a transaction as this refers to, could hare occurred, and I have forgotten it—if I had written this receipt for a pig, at any time, I should in all probability remember it, but I have not the slightest recollection of anything of the sort, and it is nothing like my handwriting—I certainly will not swear that I never did receive a pig of Mrs. Curtis—I do not know what Mrs. Curtis you speak of—if I ever bare received a pig from Mrs. Curtis, on account of law business, I have certainly forgotten it—I will not swear I did not—I have no recollection of doing any law business for a Mrs. Curtis, and receiving payment for it, before I went to Mr. Eden—I will not swear I did not—I have never represented myself as belonging to an Inn of Court, that I swear—nor as being a law student.

Q. Or as the nephew of the late Mr. Alley? A. Certainly—I am the nephew of Mr. Alley, the barrister—I am the nephew of Mr. John O. Alley—I was a relation of Mr. Peter Alley when he was alive—a sort of cousin, I believe—Mr. Peter Alley, and Mr. John Alley were, I believe, first' cousins—I am nephew to Mr. John Alley—I believe Mr. Peter Alley and Mr. John Alley were first cousins, or second cousins—they were related, certainly.

Q. Did you not in this Court, in the-presence of Mr. Peter Alley, claim a relationship, and did he not in open Court disclaim and repudiate you? A. He never did, certainly—I never said I was his nephew—I never said so at Bow-street, or any other street—The pomatum-pot that was taken from my house, I believe was the one I saw in the Bankruptcy Court—I did not see that one at the Police Court, but I believe it was exchanged for another—I am certain the china-pot I saw at the police-Court was not the one taken from my house, but the one I saw at the Bankruptcy-court, I believe, was—the one produced before the Magistrate, was not the one produced at the Bankruptcy Court—it was not the same pattern, it was something like it—on one there was a single rose, and on the other some other sort of flowers, with the stem of the rose—a sort of bunch of flowers—I did not particularly notice what was on the, pot produced at the Police Court—I was quite convinced it was not the same—if you lay both pots there, I will show you which was taken from my house—the one at the Police Court had a rose on it—from the stem of that rose there was, I believe, a tulip, or some other flower branching out—I know there were other flowers, but I do not know what they were—there was nothing but a rose on the one in my house—I have known the Lawrence family about four years—I live about three quarters of a mile from them—I have been living in Hammersmith nearly all my life—I have a house to myself, at No. 4, Paradise-row—there are aix rooms in it—I have been intimate with the Lawrence family—it is a highly respectable family—to the best of my recollection it was Mr. Lawrence that introduced me to Fuller—it was in this way I went into Mr. Lawrence's house, they were at tea at the time, I sat down, and I believe Mr. Lawrence said,

"Mr. Fuller," and after tea Mr. Fuller began to speak to me about his affairs, about his difficulties—I was at the time an articled clerk to Mr. Eden—I did not sent Fuller to my master—Idid not undertake to act for him myself—that I swear—I do not know what you mean by acting for him—I called on Chamberlainat his request—I advised Fuller, but not under any representation that I was a lawyer—I was there taking tea, and Mr. Lawrence said, "Mr. Jones knows more of the law now than I do, and he will be able to answer"—he did not employ and pay me—I wish I could get the moeny he owes me—I believe Chamberlain was formerly a linen-draper's shopman—when I called on him he was living as a gentleman in Basing-place, over Waterloo-bridge, living in a respectable house—I never got any retainer from Fuller to act for him—I never asked for it—I was aware of the execution put into Fuller's house by Chamberlain—on the 26th of April the docket was struck against Fuller—on the 19th the levy was made—I knew on the 19th that Chamberlain was an execution creditor, and had an execution in the house, and knowig that, I struck the docket, which was afterwards set aside—Mr. Edenstruck that—I believe Mr. Eden is not here—I have not subpoenaed him—he wrote to me, and said he would come up if I thought his evidence at all necessary—when I showed Chamberlain the list of things at Lawrence's house, Mr. Charles Lawrence, Miss Lawrence, and I think Mr. John Lawrence, were present—no one except the Lawrence family, because it was at Mr. Lawrence's house—when I showed the snuffers, Mr. Lawrence's family and the servant, Emma Watford, were present—it was in the parlour, and from five to seven o'clock in the evening—there was no visitor or stranger there that I know of, but I cannot tell—what took place about twelve months ago—I was not at my house when the search was made—the messenger's name who searched, I think, is Hamber—I have not brought him here—I saw him at Mr. Lawrence's and saw him search their house—before I was articled to Mr. Eden, I was living on my property—not pursuing any profession—I have very likely given opinions since 1833—I have not received payment for those opinions, that I recollect—I gave my opinion for nothing.

Q. Were you in the law at all before you went to Mr. Eden? A. With my uncle merely, Mr. Alley, the barrister—I was with him, you may take it, as a pupil—I was his nephew, and I may say I was a pupil, or otherwise—I attended at his office, and I may say I great deal fo trouble in instructing me—his chambers are at No. 14, Searle's-place, Lincoln's-inn, and have been for years—he is one of the oldest barristers of this Court—I visited him since I was a boy—I cannot tell how lonog it is since I went there first to receive instructions in the law—it is more than ten years ago—he has had his chakbers in Searle's place for ten years to my knowledge, and has them there now, and there I have seen him frequently—(looking at a paper)—I think I have seen this paper before, and now you call to my recollection something about a Mrs. Curtis—I will not say Mrs. Curtis is the name, but the circumstance contained in this paper leads me to suppose that this is the person alluded to in the other paper.

Q. Then, now I ask you, did you ever receive a pig on account from Mrs. Critis? A. I should be very sorry to swear that I did—I will not swear I did not—I do not know the person's I have no recollection of having received a pig fron any one—I will not swear I never did—I

may have received it and forgotten it—I will not swear this paper—(the first one)—is my handwriting, and I will not swear it is not—I will not swear about it, you take me back twelve or thirteen years, and really if I am forced to say, I believe it is not my handwriting—I do not remember receiving any pig—I will not swear I did not—allow me to explain—I remember, several years back, and probably about the year 1833, a person applying to me for a piece of ground to build a house on, which I agreed to let them—I believe an agreement was prepared for that purpose—I afterwards began to suspect they had not the means of building tht house—I asked them as to their circumstances, and they led me to suppose they had some money and also some property, I believe at Tonbridge Wells, which somebody was keeping them out of—I said, "If you will let me bare the papers I will look at them for you"—he said, "Now will you We the kindness to get counsel's opinion?"—I did so, and I believe this to be a copy of it—it was not signed by him—I do not see the name scratched out—here appears to have been a something scratched out, and a mark, and then "Copied per Thomas Alley Jones"—I cannot tell what name is scratched out—I will not swear it is not my own—I might have written my name there by mistake instead of Mr. Alley's, and scratched it out and put it at the bottom—that is just likely, but not probable—I believe this was an opinion given by my uncle.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON Q. Did yon receive money for this opinion? A. That I really cannot say—the persons who applied for this piece of land kept pigs, therefore I think it possible I might have purchased a pig from them—(a woman named Curtis was here called in)—I bare no recollection of ever seeing that woman before—I will not swear she is not the woman from whom I received the pig mentioned in that memorandum—I will not swear one way or the other, but I believe I never saw her before to-day—I will not swear that I did not act and give her legal advice at the time to which this memorandum refers—I do not believe I gave her legal advice for a considerable time, and received money for so doing—I swear I never received from her or any other person, money for advice unless I first paid the money for them—I have assisted many persons, and paid money for them—I was with my uncle ten years ago—I did not give him the pig—I have never said yet whether I received it—how can I tell what I did ten years ago?—I am thirty years of age—I have not got a brother who is a journeyman carpenter, or a carpenter living in the same house with me—I have a half brother articled to Mr. Carter, a builder, at Hammersmith—I have neither brother nor sister—on my oath I am not living in a cottage with four rooms with one brother, as a journeyman carpenter, and another a bricklayer—it is false, and those who instruct you ought to be ashamed of it—I have not in a hundred instances in the last ten years given legal advice and received payment for it—I have not been in the habit of dealing with persons on law matters, and receiving money for what I did—I have no recollection of ever having received a single sixpence for any advice I ever gave to any person, in fact I would not take it—I have not received half-a-crown, 3s., and 5s.—I appeared at the police-office before Sir Frederick Roe on one occasion—I should think that is eight or nine years back—a person was charged, I believe, with administering something to a horse which caused its death—he wished my uncle to appear—the man was living close by some property of mine—I went to my uncle's chambers—he was not there, and I said, "I will go with you"—I went,

and I think I saw my uncle the same evening—I believe the case was adjourned—Mr. Humphries appeared for the prosecution—I went to watch the case for the prisoner—I was not paid—I do not remember receiving a farthing—I will not swear whether they did not give a fee for my uncle to appear—it is very likely if my uncle had appeared there that I should have received the money—it is just possible I might have received some, but I do not believe I did—the persons living in Hammersmith I would not have taken any thing from them—I swear I did not receive 5s.—if J received any thing I received the usual fee—I believe I did not receive any thing—I will not swear it—I cannot tell what it was—it was certainly not five shillings—I don't believe that I cross-examined the witnesses—I cannot swear what took place ten years ago—perhaps Mr. Humphries has a better memory than I have—I did not call witnesses for the accused—I will not swear that—to the best of my recollection the Magistrate dismissed the case—it was not necessary to call a single witness—I never lived in Horse and Chaise-alley, Hammersmith—I do not know such a place—I lived on the Mall at Kensington a short time—I have six houses on the north side of the Chaise and Horses, at Hammersmith, and I resided there—it is no alley—it is a square approached from the street—it is called "Willow Cottages"—it is the property that belongs to me—there are four large rooms in the house in which I resided—about eighteen feet by fourteen, or fifteen or more—the place is not called Horse and Chaise-alley—it is just possible that I might have heard it called so—I have never called it so myself—if you look at the list of voters for Middlesex you will find it described as Willow Cottages—I describe it so—I have never spoken of it as Horse and Chaisealley—I have no recollection of doing so, and do not believe I ever did—I will not swear it—it is approached from the main street by an entrance, and then goes down into the square—I will not swear that I have not often called it Horse and Chaise-alley—if you go to Hammersmith, and ask for Willow Cottages you will be sent there—I lived there six years ago—since that I have let the houses by the week—they produce about 50l. a year—they let at half-a-crown a week—I lived in four of those houses turned into one, which I now want 24l, a year for—I had some gravel pits at Hammersmith at that time, and it was requisite I should look after the men during the spring, and I went to reside there for that time—I only lived there a few months, perhaps nine months, I believe about the summer—I opened the pits in the spring—I won't swear I did not live there for twelve months, or for two years—I will swear I did not live there three years certainly, and I do not believe I lived there two years—I think I was there two summers—I do not know whether I was there two winters—I was there one summer season, and my impression is that I left immediately after, for I was determined to close my pits became another man opened gravel pits in Hammersmith—whether I closed them or whether I carried it on another season I cannot say—I cannot swear I did not live there two years and a half—I won't swear I did not live there for three consecutive summers—I know a broker named Collins in the neighbourhood of Notting-hill, from whom I bought some furniture—he came to me about three months back, and said he was going to the workhouse, unless I could induce a Mr. Field, a friend of mine, to let him have some flour—I did so, and he went and spent the money at a public-house and got drunk—I knew Collins through a Mr. Greenhill, at that

time a very respectable man, and I believe I went with Mr. Greenhill to Collins, I cannot tell what for, I think for a walk—I never did any law business for him, I swear that—he afterwards got into difficulties—I recommended him to Mr. Cole, an attorney—he went to Mr. Cole, and I believe I either paid Mr. Cole myself, or lent him the money to do so—I very likely gave him some advice—I was not paid for it—I never received any money from him—I believe I lent him money afterwards to take him through the Insolvent Court—I did not represent myself to him as any thing—he did not know I could do anything in the way of law—I bought some of his furniture—it was very trifling—he said "An execution will be sent in, I shall lose my property—if there is anything here you bad better take it"—I said, "Very well, I will buy some, but send for a broker and let them be valued"—the broker's name was Redding—I believe he lives at Kensington—I bought six or eight chairs, and a cheffioneer—I cannot recollect any thing else—I think I gave 10l. or 20l.—I cannot tell exactly—I would not swear it was not less than 10l.—I cannot tell whether it was 10l. or 20l.—the things very soon went to pieces—I do not know whether they went to "Willow Cottages—the things were very showy at that time, and I had lent him money, I cannot tell how much—he was sued by ope Thomas, and I lent him money to pay it—I think it was 10l.—he was my baker then, and I knew him through Mr. Greenhill, a flour factor, whom he owed a great deal of money to, and who wished to assist him—he was not the person going to put in the execution—that was some person in the country—I do not know his name—I will not be certain as to the amount I lent him—I cannot say whether it was in gold or notes—I will not swear I have lent him more than 5l. or 40s. or a sovereign—I cannot tell whether I was residing at Hanfmersraith or not, at the time I bought the things—they went to pieces with me—the legs came off—I think I have got one or two of the chairs now in my bed room—I hare had them mended from time to time—I swear I have not got them all, or half-a-dozen of them—there may be two or three—I do not think there are four—I will not swear it—there might be an old chair out in the out-house broken to pieces—I will swear that there are not four in the house now—I never received furniture from any body else—I will swear I have not received furniture from twenty persons, nor from five persons, and I do not believe I have from any body else—just call it to my recollection and I will tell you—I might have purchased a pig from Mrs. Curtis—I did not receive it on account of business.

Q. You say you saw Mr. Fuller, the elder, on the subject of this bankruptcy, where did you see him? A. I wish you would allow me to explain—I saw him at Hammersmith, at Mr. Lawrence's—that was the first place at which I saw him—I think it was on Good Friday last year, and it was either on the 8th or 9th of April, or something of that sort—nobody sent for him that I know of—I believe he knew Mr. Lawrence when he resided at Boston, in Lincolnshire—I know he called on Mr. Lawrence, for when I went in I saw him with Mr. Lawrence, drinking their wine after dinner—that was the first time I ever saw him—I do not know who sent for him, nobody did that I know of—I distinctly swear that I did not send for him, nor was he sent for by my directions—I believe he lived at Manchester—I did not know that of my own knowledge then—I did not expect to see him at Mr. Lawrence's—I did not say in my examination in chief that I desired young Fuller to send for his father—I

said nothing of the sort—old Fuller must have seen Mr. Eden on the day the docket was struck, but not in my presence—I will not swear that any body belonging to the Fullers saw Mr. Eden concerning the transaction before the docket was struck—I do not think Mr. Eden had any know. ledge of the transaction until the day the docket was struck—he was sent for, but he was not at home, and I went to strike the docket—he lives in Villiers-street, Strand—Mr. Bingliam, the auctioneer, is the landlord of that house, and also has apartments there—the remainder of the house is let out in chambers—Mr. Eden occupies the whole of the ground floor and the attic—I believe Mr. Pocock, Secretary to Hungerford-market, occupies the first floor—I do not know who occupies the second—I have not been up stairs three times—I think Mr. Bingham has the top of the house—his rooms are in Leicester-square.

Q. Some of these goods were sold by tender, was there a hand-bill prepared? A. There was—Fullers' shopman, a man named Preston, prepared it—I overlooked it—I believe Preston got it printed—I swear I did not employ the person to print it—the goods were not in the first instance to be sold in the lump, by Mr. Chamberlain, under my directions—I had nothing whatever to do with the sale—I very likely corrected the proof before it went to the printer's—after the Sheriff had assigned Fuller's property to Chamberlain and Bed worth, Chamberlain requested me to recommend him an auctioneer, and I recommended Mr. Bingham—he employed him to sell the household furniture, and the stock be should sell by tender—circulars were prepared to send round to the trade—the goods were to be sold at so much off the invoice price, and Chamberlain sold that stock to Hitchcock, who has since become a bankrupt—he was the highest bidder—I do not say it is very likely that I corrected the proof—I say it is likely a proof might have been put into my hand, and I might have corrected it—after the stock had been sold to Mr. Hitchcock, Mr. Chamberlain employed Mr. Bingham to sell the furniture by auction—he did so—the shop furniture was to have been kept till the lease was put up, as it would have fetched more money by valuation—that very day, the 6th of May, on which Mr. Bingham sold the household goods by auction, a messenger came in Under the second fiat and took possession—previous to that Mr. Bingham had asked Chamberlain to allow him to send in some furniture of his own, to make up a sale, in case there was not enough, and he did so, and in consequence of that we presented a petition for Mr. Bingham—Mr. Eden was attorney for Mr. Bingham for that, and I conducted it as his articled clerk, and he had to pay all the money out of his own pocket, and that has made him so inveterate—I was personally present at both sales—Fuller had told me that Chamberlain had cheated him of the house and property, which he was entitled to by his marriage—he said he had taken something from him—when Mr. Fuller stated that to me I thought it very extraordinary—I had my doubts about it—I did not know whether it was so or not—when I went to Mr. Chamberlain he gave a very different account of it—I will swear J had not a fiat of bankruptcy in my pocket at the time of sale—the fiat was at that time filed in the Court of Bankruptcy—on the 26th of April, Mr. William Fuller struck the docket against his son, and he said "I have got a sale in the country, I shall not be up for a few days, I will let you know when I come up to open the fiat"—on the 1st of May I be spoke the fiat—Mr. Reeve might have opposed it on the 1st of May if he

chose—on Monday I called for the fiat, it was not ready—on Tuesday, the 4th of May, it was obtained—on the 6th of May we filed it, and balloted for a Commissioner, Mr. Commissioner Merivale was appointed—it was our intention to open the fiat immediately, but that very day, the 6th of May, was the day the sale took place under Mr. Bingham, and the same day Mr. Reeve walked in with the messenger under his fiat—they seized the property, and afterwards gave up every article—I was at the Court of Review at the time the discussion took place on the validity or non-validity of the first commission—the commission I had obtained was annulled—we never went on with the fiat—it was not annulled for fraud by the Commissioner in my hearing—I do not know that he used the word "fraud"—I indicted the defendants as soon as I found they had committed the vile perjury they have done—Mr. William Fuller, the defendant's father, was the petitioning creditor in my fiat—the consideration of the debt wan 100l. on a promissory note—it was produced to me by Mr. William Fuller, and I. think he gave me a copy of it—that was the first, time I saw that promissory note.

Q. On your oath, did you not yourself get a blank stamp for the purpose of manufacturing that note? A. Most solemnly do I declare, in the face of this Court and before God, nothing of the sort—this has been sworn to before at the Police-office, and it is vile perjury—I asked him how he came to lend his son 100l.—he said to enable him to get married—I would have had Mr. Fuller here if I could have caught him—I have done all I could—I got some cloth for a morning-gown from Fuller—be cut more than enough for one, and not enough for two—that was not after my fiat was issued—I swear that—it was before the fiat was applied for by Fuller's father—I never heard from old Mr. Fuller anything about a fiat, till he came up the day the docket was struck, I think on Monday, the 26th of April—I was determined not to purchase anything more of Fuller after that docket was struck—I did not purchase anything after the docket was struck, not after the 26th, that I swear, either for myself or anybody else. I knew that the notices had been served by Mr. Reeve, and writs also issued—Fuller stated that they had not been served on him, but only on his brother; that they were accommodation bills; he did not owe a farthing on them—when I called on Mr. Reeve he suggested that a surveyor should go—Mr. Reeve said, "I am on the right side of the hedge, and I will take care and keep so; I will make him a bankrupt"—after this I purchased these things—I purchased the directory which was taken out of my house, from Fuller, in April, I cannot tell what day—there was also a royal-blue book—I gave 10s. for the two—be made me a present of the religious book—that is the book he swore I took away without his authority—he swore he never sold the others, and I indicted him for perjury—I did not indict Mr. Reeve for perjury—whatever I had. of purchased of Fuller was after I had had the notice which he said had been badly served—he told me that the very first day I saw him—I got two Nouseline-de-laine dresses of Fuller for Miss Lawrence in April, 1841—she said to me, "Mr. Jones, will you have the kindness to call at Fulter's for me, and bring me down the mouseline-de-laine dresses I have been looking at?"—I said, "Certainly, with great pleasure"—I called—Fuller packed them up in paper—I said, "What are they? '—he said one was 14s., I think, and the other 16s., and I paid him—I had no account for it—do; you suppose I would have asked Mr. Fuller to give me a receipt for two

mouseline-de-laine dresses—he might have put "paid" on the parcel but I do not think he did—I believe they are entered in the books which are filed in the Bankruptcy Court—Fuller cannot produce them, they are in the Bankruptcy Court—I have given a subpoena to the registrar to produce the whole proceedings—I also had a shawl and the banding of shawls—I paid for those too—I paid for everything I had of him—I have got no bill—there was a beaver shawl—I will not swear whether I paid for that—it was a beaver shawl which he made or offered to make a present of to Miss Lawrence—Fuller stated at the time, at Mr. Lawrence's, that his lease was worth 1,600l, and Saunders and Woolley were suing him—Mr. Lawrence said, "If that is the case, don't be made a bankrupt, I will get or obtain the money for you"—the fiat was not then in my possession—it was before I saw it—it was about the 8th, 9th, or 10th of April—I did not procure a fiat against Fuller—his father came up, and said he was determined to make his son a bankrupt, for Saunders and Woolley, he was quite certain, were nothing but swindlers; that they never intended to make him a bankrupt, but merely to obtain judgment on their bills, and go in and sweep off all he had—I thought it for the interest of the whole body of the creditors for his father to make him a bankrupt—I wished no bankruptcy should take place; but when the father was determined to do so I was not sorry to hear it, for I found Saunders and Woolley would not then be enabled to have gone in and sweep off the whole of the promake perty—I did not give notice to any of the creditors that I was about to him a bankrupt, it is not necessary—I never heard of such a thing-Mr. Charles Lawrence got a waistcoat from Fuller's shop—I did not buy or pay for that—I do not know who did, or how many he got—I know he had one, because I saw it myself—I had one of each colour myself, a sort of cheni which came up about that time—Mr. Fuller said, "They make very handsome waistcoats, I will give you a piece for a waistcoat"—I said, "I am much obliged to you"—he sent for a tailor while I was at the house, who came and measured me for a waistcoat—when I went for it, there were two waistcoats instead of one, but not the same pattern—one was light, and the other dark—I did not want the waistcoat—I never asked for it—he made me a present of it—I was then striving to bring about a reconciliation between Fuller and Chamberlain—Chamberlain gave me a gold chain—that was at the time he was getting money out of me though, he called on me one morning, took the chain from his pocket, and said, "Your chain is a small one, not like mine, mine is larger, would you like this?"—I said, "I don't know, it is a light chain"—he said, "Very well, never mind, will you accept of it?"—I said, "I am much obliged to you"—it was rather a surprise to me, but I see it was a bait to cheat me out of my money—I had no velvet dress—I have heard about one—I have not seen it—I swear that—it was the subject of inquiry at the Police Court—Miss Lawrence admitted she had had it—I did not pay for that—I know nothing about any lace—I heard that Mrs. Fuller had made a present of some trifling Jace to Miss Lawrence—there are several daughters—I am engaged to one of them—she had the mouseline-de-laine dresses to pay for—she did not have the shawl ends—I believe I have them myself now—I know nothing of my own knowledge of the velvet dress—the articles I bought are set forth in my examination at the Bankruptcy Court, and you have a copy of it—I bought various articles—I will not state what they

were—I do not know who first took Miss Lawrence to Fuller's house—I did not, that I swear—she went there before I took her there—I do not know that I ever took her there—I will certainly swear that I have not taken her there half a dozen times, or gone with her—I have been with her perhaps once or twice, and with Mr. Lawrence—Chamberlain told me that as soon as he had sold his reversionary property, he would repay me the money I had lent him, with interest, give me 100l., and make me a present of a service of plate—he was at that time borrowing money from me, and inducing me to pay large sums for him.

Q. Did not you go away with the silver spoons of the bankrupt in your pocket? A. A small packet was given me by Mrs. Fuller, who said, "Will you take care of these for me?"—I afterwards gave it to Mrs. Chamberlain, by her request—she opened it, and it contained silver spoons, and that I stated at the Bankruptcy Court—it is impossible to say when that was—I do not know how long I kept the silver spoons in my possession—I kept them till I was asked for them—it may be a month or two—I cannot say whether it was three months, I will swear it was not six—I cannot tell in what month I received them—it was in April that Fuller was a bankrupt, and about November that I ceased to have any thing to say to Chamberlain—it was while Mrs. Chamberlain was residing at Hammersmith, that I delivered the spoons to her—they came to Hammersmith in June—I delivered them to Mrs. Chamberlain—it might be a month or two before I had nothing more to do with him—I will not swear it was not very close to the time at which I discontinued to have any thing to do with the matter—she had them long before Fuller absconded—I delivered them before I sued Chamberlain for the money—I took them home with me after receiving them/ emdash/whether I put them in my cheffioneer, in my plate-basket, or where, I cannot say—when asked for them, I took them to Chamberlain directly, and he gave me at the same time a note for Mrs. Fuller—I have not got that note—I dare say it is among the proceedings—it was in Chamberlain's handwriting—I got a small picture from Fuller—he made me a present of it—it is a small thing not worth 1s., perhaps—I would not give 2s. for it—it would not fetch 2s. if sold—I was admiring it, and he said, "I will make you a present of it, for I don't want it to hang up here"—I cannot tell how long that as before his bankruptcy—it was shortly after I became acquainted with him—"was a picture of Potiphar's wife—it was a painting in oil, on a small piece of canvas, in a gilt frame, but the gilt was all off—I have seen a copy of Mr. Bingham's catalogue—the umbrella-stand was the very list article brought on to the table by the auctioneer's man—I will not swear whether it was in the catalogue—when it was brought on the table, Mr. Bingham said, "I believe it is not in the catalogue, here is an umbrella-stand, what say you for it?"—I said, 5s.—I do not believe there was another bidder, and he knocked it down—the room was crowded with purchasers—all the things were stopped—nothing was delivered that day, for the messenger came in directly after with the other fiat—I believe the marble-slab was in Mr. Bingham's catalogue—I have seen it—that I bought at the sale in a lot of sundries—the sundries were afterwards taken away and I refused to take it—the lot, to the best of my recollection, was 6s. 6d.—I said I would not give 6s. 6d. for it—he said. "it cant be helped, if you like to take it at 2s., do," and I said I would—I asked him to put a value on it, at the request of Mr. Chamberlain—he had repeatedly

said to me, "Whatever you wish to purchase, ask Mr. Bingham to put a value on them, and take them at his valuation, and it will save me the auction duty"—the mats, which did belong to Fuller's estate, are not in my cottage—they are in the catalogue, I believe, not as sundries, but by themselves—I am almost certain of it.

Q. Did you at any time receive from Fuller a sum of money? A. Yes, while he was in business—it was in April—I cannot give the date—I cannot tell how much, about 20l.—I will swear it was not 50l.—he said to me, "My next door neighbour has borrowed some money of me, I think he will let me have it if I go for it"—he went in, came into the shop, handed me the money, and then went to serve a lady in the shop—I afterwards returned it—on another occasion he said to his wife, "I want some money"—she gave him, I think, about 20l., he handed it to me, and I gave it to her afterwards.

Q. Was this your answer to the question I will read to you from the proceedings?"Will you swear that you never received 50l. in one sum from the bankrupt and his wife? Knowing the character of the bankrupt and his wife, I will not swear that I have not or that I have."—A. I did make that answer, and I will tell you why, I believed at that time, and I believe still, that they would swear anything, and was fearful and timid—I will swear I did not receive 50l. in one sum from Fuller or hit wife—I never received money from him but twice, and those are the times I have named—I gave that answer before the Commissioner, because I believed Mr. Reeve had summoned me for the very purpose of examining me, and then getting Fuller and his wife to perjure themselves against me—the same reason exists now, but I am determined to speak the truth let the consequence be what it will—I spoke the truth then, but qualified it—I swear I never received any other sums but the two I have named.

MR. DOANE. Q. Is this Mr. Chamberlain's signature? A. It is. (This was written on the particulars of sale.)—(Read)—"I do hereby authorise and empower you to remove the above fixtures off the premises, and to sell or cause the same to be sold by auction, or otherwise, and for the same this shall be your authority, and Mr. T. A. Jones's receipt shall be a sufficient discharge for the amount of the sale. 22nd September, 1841. To Mr. Bingham, auctioneer."

COURT. Q. What amount did you advance on account of Chamberlain, and where did you get the funds? A. I swear I have property at Hammersmith—I have my bankers' accounts here, which will show more than 3000l. paid in to my bankers, and yet I am told I have not a farthing—it has been insinuated that I was a man of no property, and had not the means of lending anything.


TUESDAY, September 20th, 1842.

The QUEEN against P. H. CHAMBERLAIN, and others, continued COURT to THOMAS ALLEY JONES Q. What was the date of your introduction to Fuller, the defendant? A. Early in April, 1841, about the 7th or 8th, I cannot say to a day or two—I think my interview with Chamberlain was on the 12th—I was not advising Fuller and Chamberlain at the same time—I wished to bring about a reconciliation between them—they were not entrusting me with the management of the property, or giving

me the liberty that I took with the different things at the same period—the authority from each to deal with the property was long after—Chamberlain's execution was put in on the 19th of April—that was put in with my concurrence—I knew of it, I counselled it, and proposed it—there was a warrant of attorney—I went to Mr. Holding, Chamberlain's attorney—I think the notices on Fuller were on the 6th of April—they were earlier than my introduction to him—I was lending my assistance to Fuller and Chamberlain to defeat the other creditor ultimately—the other creditor was suing as well as serving notices, with a view to the bankruptcy—they were proceeding at law, and would in a very few days have obtained an execution—I think it was not Saunders and Woolley who were suing—the bills had been paid away to the attorney—I think they were the drawers of the bills—they were also proceeding at law—I was advising the parties merely as a friend—it was not until September that the authority was given me to buy what goods I liked, at the price Mr. Bingham put on them—in the mean time Chamberlain had been borrowing money of me, and inducing roe to lend him to a large amount—altogether I advanced him 637l. 2s. 6d.—out of that I received from Mr. Bingham the proceeds of two sales, which was, I think, 43l. something, and 102l. or 103l.—I received those amounts it Chamberlain's request—I received of Mr. Chamberlain 205l. I think, to pay tome of Fuller's creditors, to whom Chamberlain gave a guarantee to secure them in a sum of 200l.—they sued Chamberlain for the amount, Chamberlain requested me to pay that amount, and I did so—I gave it to Mr. Eden/and he paid it to the attorney who was suing Chamberlain, and the receipts and vouchers are now in Mrs. Chamberlain's possession—I left them at her request with Messrs. Capes and Stewart, who told me that the had been there and received them—at the time I lent Chamberlain the 637l. 2s. 6d. he told me he was in difficulties in consequence of fuller's bankruptcy, that Fuller had received from him 1600l. and that it would rain him—he claimed a lien on the lease of, I think, 500l.—the lease of Fuller's house was to have been sold, by order of the Court of Review—it was subsequently put up—in the mean time I had lent him various sums of money—he led me to believe that he was a man of very good property—he said he had some reversionary property, and requested me to go down to Lincolnshire to see it, and he employed Mr. Eden to sell the property—I have a copy of the way in which the 600l. odd was expended—I received the 205l. on the 15th of June, 1841—I think that was the day on which it was paid—I paid 5l. 10s., at Chamberlain's request, to a Mr. Bolton, of Hammersmith, for a kitchen range.

Q. What interest had you in the matter to be advancing large sums of money to Chamberlain, when your original introduction was to advise Fultat A. I had no interest in the matter. Chamberlain had, at that time, taken a bouse at Hammersmith, and was visiting daily at the house of Mr. Lawrence, where I met him—(looking at a catalogue)—this catalogue relates to the fixtures—the furniture had been sold before, and fetched 43l.—I had nothing to do with the stock—that was sold by Mr. Chamberlain to Hitchcock, and Mr. Hitchcock paid him—this paper (looking at one produced by Mr. Clarkson) is my handwriting—there is no date to it—if you will allow me to refer to the Chancery proceedings I can tell you in a moment when it was drawn up—this is the subject of a bill in Chancery—and an answer that was obtained from me by Chamberlain to show his

wife—he said he did not like his wife to know how much he was in my debt—this is a statement of account by me, claiming a balance of 117l. odd—it is a false account, which I made out for the purpose of showing his wife—some of the amounts are correct—here is 5l. for barrister and clerk, that is right—they were some fees which I paid to Mr. Sergeant Scriven, for an opinion—I should say this paper was made out about September or October, last year—I called, I think, on a Sunday morning, to offer Mrs. Chamberlain a seat in my pew—she had gone to church, and Chamberlain then asked me to make out this account—this account is true as far as it goes, but there are items left out which I have not charged him for—I promised him that the opinion I obtained from Sergeant Scriven I would not charge him for—it is here, but that was for his wife—he was in my debt more than that—shortly afterwards he asked me for a further account—I ultimately made out an account beginning with 117l. 17s. 5d.—and reducing it by different payments to 48l. 17s. 5d.—that was made out entirely for the wife—with this is included a sum of 611l. 11s. 5d. plot 48l. 17s. 5d. paid by me—there is a sum of 210l., I think—I have vouchers here—here is a 100l. bill which I took up for him at the London and Westminster bank, and here is a receipt for 87l. 10s. for a quarter's rent for the house in Regent-street—the balance due to me now is 252l. 1s. or 2s.—I sued him for the whole amount that I had paid, 637l., leaving him to his set-off of course—I have set forth the schedule in my answer in Chancery—I have made payments on his account since October—on November 4th, 8th, 12th, and 17th, I paid some small sums of 5l. at each time, 20l. altogether—I have charged 76l. odd as lent by me to Chamberlain, to pay Walters and Reeve—Chamberlain asked me to let him have a cheque for the amount, and I did so—the cheque was paid, and I have it here-on the 26th of April the fiat was bespoke—on Saturday the 1st of May I called for it—I anticipated Mr. Reeve's docket by a day, if the notices had been well served—I believe that was why Mr. William Fuller came up from Manchester—I swear I did not set him up as a petitioning creditor to get the commission myself—the fiat was obtained on Tuesday, the 4th of May—Mr. Eden knew of the docket on the 26th of April, after the application had been made—it was filed, and the Commissioner balloted for on the 6th of May—we did not proceed with it—we were advised not to go on with it when they went on with their fiat—on the 29th of April Chamberlain's execution on the goods, by the assignment of the Sheriff, was perfected—I think the notices were served on Fuller about the beginning of April—I believe I have given an account of all the goods that had previously been Fuller's, or Chamberlain's, that came into-my hands.

CHARLES LAWRENCE . I am a medical student at St. George's Hospital. My father and sisters reside at Hammersmith—I know Chamberlain, Fuller, and Reeve, and am also very intimate with Mr. Jones—about the latter end of September I remember Chamberlain being at my father's house, in company with myself, my sister, and Mr. Jones—Chamberlain told Mr. Jones that anything he would like to buy out of the sale, if he would ask Mr. Bingham, the auctioneer, to put a value on it, he should be perfectly satisfied, or should he like it better to buy in at the sale for Mr. Chamberlain, he could take it out if he liked—he told Mr. Jones to take the proceeds of that sale as well as the former, and put it to his account, to be applied in reduction of his account—and he added that when he came

into his reversionary property, which he was then selling, he would pay Mr. Jones the balance and make him a present of 100l. worth of plate, for he was the best friend he had in the world—he also asked Mr. Jones to call at Fuller's house in Regent-street, and pay his man his wages before quarter-day, because he did not want to pay another quarter's rent by keeping on the house, and to tell Hoad to pack up whatever things had been left at that house for his accommodation, and any other loose things that might be in the house, and to send them by the carrier to Hammersmith to Mr. Chamberlain's, as they were trying to dispose of the lease—in the course of that same evening I saw Mr. Jones again at my father's house—Mr. Chamberlain was there too, taking tea at our house—Mr. Jones took out of his pocket a pair of snuffers and tray, and said to Mr. Chamberlain, "These are your snuffers and tray that your man Hoad thought inconvenient to pack up with the things, and I put them in my pocket"—Chamberlain took them, and laughed at the idea of Mr. Jones bringing a paltry pair of suffers and tray in his pocket—Chamberlain took them away with him after staving the evening—we were then intimate—Chamberlain asked Mr. Jones if he had told the man to send down the other things that he had mentioned in the morning—he said, yes he had, and that he would do it—I remember a few nights after, taking tea at Mr. and Mrs. Chamberlain's—Mr. Jones was there, my father, and sister—while there the servant came into the room, and said that her brother Hooper had brought some things from Mr. Jones, that had gone there by mistake from Regent-street—it was mentioned what the things were, but I cannot remember particularly what they were—there were many mentioned—Chamberlain said he was glad he had got all his things back again—this was in September—some time in October Mr. Jones again met Chamberlain at my father's house—(Chamberlain was in the habit of coming to our house I should say, on an average, five times a week,) and after Mr. Jones came in after tea, in talking he pulled out a list of the accounts of the sale, and gave to Chamberlain—that was after the second or third sale—it was a little list that Mr. Bingham had written out, of his own things that he had bought—Chamberlain looked at it, and remarked that some of the things he thought were valued higher than they were worth—this is the list—Chamberlain asked me for a pen and ink, and altered, I believe, a glass from 8l. 5s. to 8l.—it was a large pier glass—he then returned the list to Mr. Jones—he remarked that there was a marble slab in the list—he said he should like to have it, it would make a nice little bracket between his windows—Mr. Jones said, "You are perfectly welcome to have it if you send a servant for it; "here is a piece of marble 2s. down in the list—on the 9th of June last Mr. Reeve called on me at St. George's Hospital—I made a memorandum of it at the time, which I have with me—I had never seen Mr. Reeve before then, that I am aware of—he asked me if my name was Lawrence—I said yes—he said his name was Reeve—he said, "I have called on you to ask you whether you were in Regent-street on Sunday, the 12th of April twelve-month, and removed goods from Fuller's"—I said, "No, I was never in Regent-street on a Sunday in my life"—he was very cross at my denying that, and told me that a Mr. Preston had written a letter, telling him that I had done it—he then said, "Do you know a person named Thomas Alley Jones?"—I said, "Yes, perfectly well"—he was very cross—he said he was a scoundrel, a villain, and a thief, that he had not any thing in his house worth 30s. except what he had stolen from the bankrupt George

Fuller—he said, "I know he is not worth 1s. in the world; if you have not been to his house, my dear Mr. Lawrence, I hope you will go, and see for yourself"—(he was then very friendly with me)—"you will find in one cupboard a lot of miscellaneous property and other suspicious things, plated goods, such as candlesticks, &c.; I hope that you and your father will take care that your sister does not marry such a scamp, but I will take care she shall not, for we are determined to transport him for stealing property from Fuller's creditors"—I said, "Really, Mr. Reeve, you must be mistaken, I know Mr. Jones to be a man of high respectability and property; it is only a day or two since that I saw his bankers' book, by which it appears that he had paid about 3000l. into his bankers' account this year"—Mr. Reeve said it was all stuff, it was no such thing, he knew better; he could prove it was no bankers' book at all, but a mass of forgeries—he said Mr. Fuller was below stairs, should he call him up, and he would state the same—I said no, I did not want to have any thing more to do either with Mr. Reeve or the bankrupt, and he then left me—I was examined before the Commissioner of Bankruptcy in Fuller's case—I did not there make the same statement as to the conversation at the hospital as I have now—I said in Mr. Reeve's presence that I had made a note of this, but as it was not in the matter in question there, I did not tell him it—on the 18th, about nine days afterwards, about half-past four o'clock, I was riding on the top of an omnibus, on my way from the hospital to my father's, and as we were passing through Hammersmith tollbar, Mr. Reeve stopped the omnibus, and asked me if I had seen Jones—I said, "What do you mean?"—he then said, "Mr. Jones"—I said, "No, I hare not"—he said, "I have got a warrant for him, to apprehend him for felony" I was on the seat with the driver—I do not think there were any other passengers—he said it quite loud enough for persons to hear—I went on to my father's house, and after I got there I saw Mr. Reeve again with Fuller, Chamberlain, and two policemen—they came to our house, and Mr. Reeve came and rang our bell, and asked for Mr. Jones—I should say there were nearly fifty people collected—I saw Mr. Jones's servant standing in the middle of the road among the people, and Mr. Reeve said to one of the policemen, "Take that girl into custody, she is Mr. Jones's servant"—the policeman said he could not do it—Mr. Reeve said, Then watch her well, because when we take Mr. Jones we shall search his house," and he was pointing to our bouse, at the same time saying "That is a house that property is concealed in; they have stolen property"—he said this in the presence of all the people—I believe he only rang the bell once while I was there—they were walking about the Broadway and the street till I do not know how late—I myself put on a white jacket, and went among them—I do not think they knew me—they remained there till very late in the evening—Mr. Reeve was stopping every omnibus that passed—I do not know whether the policemen interfered so much, but Reeve, Chamberlain, and Fuller ran to look at every omnibus, and was stopping them while they were passing—I did not hear them make any inquiries—this was on a Saturday—I think I had been to Westminster Hall that morning about Mr. Jones's action—that was the day on which Mr. Jones's trial had been appointed for the 23rd—I went to the Kensington Police Court on the Monday following, and saw Mr. Jones there, in custody, on some charge—I do not recollect whether I saw any of the defendants there then—I think the hearing was adjourned till the Wednesday—I went again on Wednesday

—I saw Mr. Jones in the dock—Mr. Reeve was there to conduct the case against him—he was also examined as a witness—he volunteered his evidence, and would be sworn—Chamberlain, Hoad, Fuller, and Mrs. Fuller were examined in support of the charge—it ended in Mr. Jones firing his recognizance to appear again—it was adjourned till the following week, on which Mr. Reeve undertook to produce fresh evidence—he said he had to travel 100 miles, or something of that sort, and it was adjourned on Mr. Jones's own recognizance—on the following Wednesday I was at the Police Court again, and saw Mr. and Mrs. Chamberlain, and Mr. and Mrs. Fuller outside, all in company together walking about—I heard Chamberlain talking to a lot of riff-raff a lot of girls, women, and persons outside—he was speaking to one person of a child, and said he was something like Thomas Alley—after Mr. Jones was held to bail, I saw Chamberlain put his fingers up to his nose to Mr. Jones, and was jumping with joy, and saying, "How do you like it? How do you like it?"

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did you state on your examination before the Commissioner of Bankruptcy, that; you had never been to Regent-street, or ever removed any goods in your life? A. I did not do any thing of the sort—I did not say or swear so—I did not tell Mr. Reeve so at the Bankruptcy Court, or at St. George's Hospital—he did not ask me about any other time, but the 12th of April—I was not asked whether I had removed any goods from Regent-street in my life—I swear that, nor did I ever deny it—I must correct myself, I did deny that I had been to Regent-street on a Sunday—I was not asked whether I had ever been to Regent-street, nor did I say no—I was asked about the 12th, and not about anything afterwards—(looking at his examination)—these are my signatures—(the examinations being read did not contain any such question or answer.)

Q. Did you get a waistcoat out of the Bankrupt's estate? A. Yes, it was on the 20th of April, and to show how little I must have had previously to do with it, I was down in Tenterden in Kent, and did not return for many months—every thing I had to do with the bankrupt was previous to the 20th of April—I had no acquaintance with him—I did not think it odd that he should give me a waistcoat—he was at my father's house, and was boasting that a Mr. Pearson, a purveyor to the Queen, had given him a piece of stuff which the Queen had had a dressing gown made of, and he offered me a piece of it for a waistcoat—I liked the idea of having something which the Queen had worn, and I accepted it—I believe he said it had been made by a Scotch pedlar, that the Queen had greatly admired it, and had a piece of—it was about 3s. or 4s. a yard—he said that Mr. Pearson had given it to him on opening his shop as a sort of deckoy duck, or something very grand to be in the window, something very attractive—I also had another waistcoat at the same time of exactly the same pattern, but another colour—I was measured in his house—I was only asked about one before the Bankruptcy Court—I could not answer what I was not asked—Mr. Reeve asked me, "Have you a waistcoat of the bankrupt's?"—I said, "Yes"—had he said "two" I should have said yes—I did not go there to conceal anything—the waistcoats were made by a tailor who he said he know could make them well, and I paid Mr. fulsler for them—I did not in my examination before the Bankruptcy Court detail the conversation I had with Mr. Reeve at the hospital—I told Mr. Reeve I had made a note of matters that had occurred between us in talking that I thought then did not concern the question, but I had made

a note of it afterwards—I did not, on Mr. Reeve further questioning me, say that it had nothing to do with it, and therefore I would state it—I did not answer in that way—I said, "Other circumstances occurred between us, the import of which has nothing to do with this, consequently I shall not now state it, but on arriving home I wrote down all I recollected of the conversation"—I stated but very little of what I have said today—everything was put in question and answer, and I could not go into things not asked me—I swear that the two waistcoats was all the property that ever came into my possession from the bankrupt's estate—to the best of my knowledge I never had any other property of the bankrupt's at any other time—I cannot think of any thing else—I firmly believe I never had—I cannot give a stronger answer—I do not consider I am bound to swear positively, but I am certain I had not—the next day I was off by the coach to Tenterden, and I never heard anything more of the parties till I returned some months afterwards—I left on the 20th of April—it was before the bankruptcy that I had these waistcoats—I did not think I was doing wrong in accepting them.

Q. Was it not the day before you went to Tenterden, that you took away the goods in the cab? A. Yes, but I have never admitted that I took goods—I took some linen for Mrs. Fuller, who was coming to our house to visit, and I believe some books—I went on that occasion to fetch my waistcoat home—I had only known Fuller for two or three days then—I did not go there to breakfast, but breakfast being on the table they asked me to take some.

Fuller. Q. For what reason did you come away so early? A. I was on business of my own—I was going to Apothecaries' Hall to register as medical student, and called for my waistcoats—I never charged you a halfpenny for a cab to convey the goods to Hammersmith—you had nothing to do with it—I remained at your house perhaps twenty minutes—I did not assist in packing up goods in wrappers—the goods in the cab did not go away in white shawl wrappers.

(Mr. E. B. Watts, clerk to the Chief Registrar of the Court of Bankruptcy, produced the original affidavit of Chamberlain, in the banbruptcy of Fuller.)

THOMAS ALLEY JONES re-examined. I was present when this affidavit was sworn by Mr. Chamberlain, and know the signature is his handwriting.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Were you acting at that time as Chamberlain's attorney? A. No, I was not acting for anybody at the time, but as clerk to Mr. Eden, who was the attorney of Fuller's father—I think that fiat was a good one, and might have been supported—I cannot tell whose hand writing the. body of this affidavit is, except the two or three lines interlined here—the two lines at the bottom are my writing—I swear I have no belief whose writing the rest is—I got it from Mr. Chamberlain—I am intimate with Miss Lucy Lawrence, and have seen her write—I believe it is not her writing—I will not swear positively it is not, but I swear I do not believe it to be her writing.

This affidavit stated, that a warrant of attorney for 1600l. had been given by Fuller to the deponent; and that by instructions to his solicitor, an execution had been issued, and a levy made on Fuller's effects on the 19th of April; that the Sheriff assigned the goods to the deponent and Medworth for 1700l.; and denying that any scheme was concocted between deponent and Jones; that Jones never gave deponent any advice defraud the creditors, or that any part of the goods of Fuller had been concealed

in the deponent's house; that he believed no goods were removed off the premises, but were all taken by the Sheriff; and that he had no communication with Fuller since the 3rd of May last.")

LUCY LAWRENCE . I reside with my father, at Hammersmith. I knew Mr. and Mra. Fuller, who kept the shop in Regent-street—they came to stop at my father's house at the time Mr. Chamberlain put his execution into Fuller's house—Mr. Chamberlain lived at Hammersmith, near my father's house—we were in the habit of seeing Chamberlain, and were intimate with him—Mr. Jones was a visitor at my father's house—I heard Mr. Chamberlain tell Mr. Jones, if there was any thing in the sale he wished to purchase, he might request Mr. Bingham to put a value on them, and he should take them at his valuation, he should be perfectly satisfied, as it would save him the auction-duty; or, if he preferred it, to buy in for him what he liked, and he might take them at the price he bought them at—I was present when Mr. Jones gave Mr. Chamberlain Mr. Bingham's account of the sales, at my father's house—Fuller was not lodging there at that time—this is the paper—(looking at it)—when Mr. Chamberlain returned it, he told Mr. Jones Mr. Bingham had valued some of the things at more than they were worth—he asked for a pen and ink, and altered the price of some of them, and said to Mr. Jones, "There is a little marble slab, I should like it if you have no objection; it would make a nice bracket for me to put between the windows"—Mr. Jones said, "You shall have it whenever you like to send your servant for it"—I was present when Chamberlain requested Mr. Jones to pay his man Hoad two weeks' wages, and to discharge him—he was to desire the man to pack up whatever articles were left about the house, also the things left for his convenience, he wished to have them removed, as he did not like to pay another quarter's rent—this was the litter end of September, just before quarter-day—I remember Chamberlain was at our house when Mr. Jones returned from town, and called at my lather's house, and in my presence he gave Chamberlain a pair of snuffers and tray, saying, that Hoad had sent them from Regent-street—he told him he had discharged the man, and the man would send the other things down that day or the next; they were to come by Brown, the carrier—some things came down by the carrier, and, I understand from Mr. Chamberlain's servant, they were left at Mr. Jones's house by mistake—we were taking tea at Mr. Chamberlain's, and the servant came and said they were left, by the carrier's mistake, at Mr. Jones's, and Mr. Chamberlain sent the servant's brother for them, and he brought them from Mr. Jones's—I had two mouseline-de-laine dresses from Regent-street—they were brought by Mr. Jones at my request—it was some time in April, 1841—I had them made up, and my dress-maker's bill is dated the 19th of May—I had them previous to that date—I wore them nearly all last summer—Fuller saw me wear them repeatedly, and Chamberlain also—I have drank tea at Chamberlain's house in them, and they have drank tea at our house; and on one occasion Fuller said the pink dress would not wash, but the other would wash like a piece of calico—speaking of them as dresses which he knew—this was in Mrs. Juller's presence—I had the dress on, and Fuller said, "My wife's blue dress, of the same pattern as that pink, will not wash, but the drab one will. like a piece of calico"—my dresses were drab and pink—I think I had the pink one on, but he has seen me in the drab one repeatedly—the drab one was produced before the Magistrate at Kensington, in June last—

that is one of the articles Mr. Jones was charged with stealing—on the 3d. of January my father's house was searched—Mr. Reeve, Mr. Fuller and a messenger from the Bankruptcy Court, were present—these dresses were in the house then—Fuller took a piece of the drab one away with him—he did not take the dress—I was examined at the Bankruptcy Court—I believe it was on the 12th of January, by Reeve—a china pomatum-pot was shown to me there, as one taken from Mr. Jones's house—that was the first time I had seen it—I was only examined once, but was in attendance there from, I think, half-past twelve o'clock till three, or after—the china pot there was under my observation during that time—when I was in attendance at Kensington, in June, a china pot was produced before the Magistrate—it was not the one I saw in the Bankruptcy Court, but it was one of the articles Mr. Jones was charged with stealing—(looking at two papers)—I have not seen these before—Mr. Jones requested me to call on Chamberlain, and ask him to return two memorandums he had given him for the purpose of showing to Mrs. Chamberlain—I called at his house in the morning, and in the afternoon, but he was not at home; but I met him, and asked him to return the two memorandums Mr. Jones had given him to show Mrs. Chamberlain, to satisfy her—Chamberlain said he had got the memorandums, and he should keep them; that Mr. Jones had refused to lend him 10l. more, and that they were given to satisfy his wife, because he did not wish her to know he owed him so much money—he said he never would pay Mr. Jones a farthing of what he owed him; he knew he owed him more than 600l., but he would never pay him a sixpence—I cannot state the exact date of this conversation—I think it was either the 7th, 8th, or 9th of December—it was in the early part of December, 1841, and he said he might get it as he could, he had nothing to show for it—he said Mr. Jones had received about 200l. of it, but Mr. Jones had paid and lent him the amount of above 600l.

Q. What made him so particular to inform you of all this? A. I asked how he could act in that shameful manner towards Mr. Jones, who had acted as a friend to him, letting him have money when he wanted it and he had not a shilling to help himself—he said, "Jones has refused to lend me 10l., I hope he will live to want it, I will never pay him"—I said, "Mr. Chamberlain, you forget what money I have seen Mr. Jones lend you"—he said, "Oh, as to you, Miss Lawrence, I will take care you shall never prove any thing."

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you tell all this to Mr. Jones? A. I did—I was very much excited, and told him the evening it occurred—he has not taken my evidence down since last September—he knew what I could prove—I have not told him what I could state—I cannot recollect how long ago—he made a memorandum of what I stated to him that very evening—he has since read that memorandum over to me, before Mr. Chamberlain's action was brought on—Mr. Jones took it to copy into his brief, of course—I never wrote a brief—I have written for Mr. Jones, I cannot tell what.

Q. Have you not written a great many things for Mr. Jones in law proceedings? A. I have not.

Q. Forty or fifty? A. Oh, dear, no—I wrote for him last about twelve months ago perhaps—I wrote something—I do not know whether it was an affidavit, or what—(looking at the affidavit of Chamberlain)—I never saw this that I know of—I do not think I ever saw it before—I never have—I did

not write it—I will swear I never wrote a word in my life, that I recollect, in the presence of Mrs. Fuller—I am positive this is not my handwriting.

Q. Do you mean to swear you wrote no affidavit or paper in the bankruptcy proceedings for Mr. Jones? A. I do not know what an affidavit is—I do not know in what form an affidavit is made—I never made one myself—I believe it is a person stating on oath what they know, but I never wrote any statement of that kind—I wrote something for Mr. Jones, but whether it was his affidavit in the Court of Bankruptcy I do not know—I only finished it—Mr. Jones never acted as a lawyer.

Q. In the conversation with Chamberlain, did it not strike you to say, "Why, you have acknowledged to me you owe him 600l., in this conversation?" A. He knew I knew he had acknowledged it—I said, "After you have made this acknowledgment to me, Mr. Chamberlain, do you mean to say you will go into Court, and swear you don't owe him the money?"—I told him I could prove what he owed Mr. Jones—he said, "I owe him above 600l.; he has had about 200l. of it, but the rest he shall never receive from me"—I know nothing of Mr. Jones saying he only owed him 150l., but he brought the action for 600l., that he might discharge himself as he thought proper—Mr. Jones never said so to me—I have purchased goods out of Fuller's shop—I have no bills of parcels of any kind—I never receive a bill of any kind when I go to a draper's shop—I look at it, and leave it on the counter—I do not know a draper in town,—the first Article I bought at Fuller's shop was sixteen yards of satinet, at 6s. 6d.—I have no bill for it, because I was dining at Mr. Fuller's—I did not go there to purchase any thing—Mr. Fuller brought me a satinet dress and scarf, and said he would let me have it at the wholesale price—I said I did not come prepared to purchase, and did not know that my father would let me have it—I took it home that night, and it has been paid for—Mr. Jones paid, and I repaid Mr. Jones—I purchased the dress I have on at Fuller's—it is the sixteen yards of satinet—I bought a black satinet scarf and the dress together—I paid 30s. for the scarf—I had a beaver shawl, but I ought to explain how it was; the next day I dined at Fuller's, he brought a square beaver shawl, and said, "Miss Lawrence, I have brought something to show you, it is quite new, I intend you to have half of it, and Mrs. Fuller the other half"—I said, "What is the price?"—he said, "That is of no consequence"—I said I should not take it, and he-afterwards sent it by Mr. Jones, who paid him a sovereign for it afterwards, and I repaid him, the day I had the shawl, the day Mr. and Mrs. Fuller drove down his phaeton to fetch us to dine with him—Mrs. Fuller went up with me to dress, and she said, "Miss Lawrence, I have brought you a present of black lace" and I took it—previous to that I had given Mrs. Fuller some presents of bottles of preserves and currants—she brought me seven or eight yards of black lace—I mentioned that at the Bankruptcy Court—she told me it was French lace, but my friends, who have seen it, say it is Nottingham—I am not a judge of the value—it might be 2s. 6d" a yard—I did not go about Mr. Jones's dressing-gown—the very evening Fuller came I asked him to let me have another yard of the stuff—Mr. Jones had bought some to make two dressing-gowns—I asked Fuller to let me have a yard, as it would be a nice thing for my father—I did not go to the shop for the purpose—it was the day Fuller fetched us to dine with him—I did not get any curtains from Fuller—he left a set of curtains at our house, and requested me to

send them to my laundress—she returned them, and I paid her 3s. for washing them—I told Mr. Reeve he should have them if he sent for them—they are figured muslin curtains—I have them now—I have known Mr. Jones above four years—he was a constant visitor—the servant has been present at some of these conversations, nobody else, that I am aware of—Fuller and Chamberlain never had any conversation in our house—Fuller always got up and walked out of the room when he came—he never would speak to him.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Do I understand it appeared to you that Fuller and Chamberlain were not on good terms? A. They were not—they were deadly enemies—one would not sit in the same room where the other was—this was from Fuller's first coming to my father's—Fuller first came to remain at my father's house the day Mr. Chamberlain put the execution in his house—he came down to my father, and said there was an execution in his house by Chamberlain, "I have not a home to go to, nor a friend to receive me, will you take me in?" he said, "Yes, as long as yon like, where is Mrs. Fuller?"—he said, "Mrs. Fuller will come down in the evening, her mamma will bring her"—he decidedly complained of Chamberlain's putting the execution in hit house—I heard him tell my father Mr. Chamberlain had swindled him out of 2,000l. he ought to have in right of his wife—Fuller has repeatedly talked before Mr. Jones of Chamberlain's conduct to him—Mr. Jones was not there at the time Fuller first came—he might call in the evening—he generally did call—he is engaged to me—Fuller appeared bitter against Chamberlain for having swindled him, and put in the execution—the execution could not have gone in so early as the 19th of April, as the Fullers staid about a week—they left early in May—about the 5th of May, I think—the execution could not have been before the 28th or 29th—they left for Manchester—that was before Mr. Fuller was a bankrupt—Manchester is where the elder Fuller lived—they left for Manchester on Wednesday night, having come to us the preceding Thursday—whenever he mentioned Chamberlain, he mentioned him as having swindled him—he said he ought to have 2,000l. with Mrs. Fuller, at his marriage, but he had swindled him, and got him to sign some document, giving up his interest in property which ought to come to her at her mother's death—I do not know anything about Mr. Jones interesting himself about Fuller before this—he knew Fuller, and dined with him—I was present at the introduction of Fuller to Mr. Jones—he was at our house drinking tea, Fuller saying something about his affairs to my father, my father said, "Mr. Fuller, I know nothing about law much now, here is my young friend knows more about it than I do, tell him your affairs, and if I find it as you state, that your lease is worth 1500l., and the business 30l. a week, if it should be required, I will lend you 500l. or 600l. if you want it"—I believe Fuller and Chamberlain never spoke together at my father's house—when one came into the room, the other walked out—if Fuller was there and Chamberlain came in, he would go into the drawing-room, and the same on the part of Fuller—as far as I could understand, the conduct of Chamberlain was hostile to Fuller from beginning to end—Mr. Chamberlain repeatedly came to our house that he might meet Mr. Jones, but not by appointment—he wanted to ask him something—he used to come into the house, and say, "is my dear friend Thomas Alley Jones come?"and he used to pray for him morning, noon, and night, he was so fond of him—he said, "I really pray for him

morning, noon, and night, I am never so happy as when I am with him"—I believe he was sincere at the time—they have been in the same room together at my father's house, and in conversation the same as others might—they did not talk of business matters in my presence that I know of—he told Mr. Jones when he first saw him, that Chamberlain had swindled him out of about 2,000l.—I ought to state that Fuller had seen Mr. Jones about a year and a half before, when he came to dine at our house, and never saw him afterwards till this time—the first time Chamberlain came to our house, Fuller got op and walked into the garden instead of finishing his tea—that was the Tuesday before they went to Manchester—that would be about the 3rd of May—it was the Tuesday before they went to Manchester—I never heard of Jones having any thing to do with issuing Chamberlain's execution—Mr. Fuller sent three china vases down from the shop in a bag with some books, and there was a few dessert plates, an odd set—I think eight plates and two dishes—I gave her 10s. for them, because she said she did not want them—one day when at our house, she wanted some silver—Mr. Fuller had none to give her—I gave her 10s.—she said I should have the plates for it—I returned them—Mrs. Chamberlain came, and I gave them to her, telling her I had them from Mrs. Fuller—I do not know whether she asked for them—I will not swear she even knew I had them—I know I sent them to her, and received 10s. from her—Mrs. Chamberlain came to request my father to let Mrs. Fuller have a chair where she was in lodgings, very poorly, and had no sofa—my father let her have a chair he had bought of Fuller, and I sent these things back—I took a velvet dress home to my father to ask him to allow me to buy it—he refused, and I returned it—I kept it two or three days, not longer—the next time I saw Fuller I returned it to him—I never unfolded it—Fuller said it was sufficient for a dress—the day Fuller asked me to buy the black velvet dress he brought a small black bag embroidered—he said, "Miss Lawrence, I have a bag I beg your acceptance of—I declined it for some time—he said, "Very well, as you are so high and mighty about it, you may take it and give it to your sister, I dare say she will accept it"—I said, "Very well," and took it home, and have used it in the presence of Mrs. Fuller and Mrs. Chamberlain—Mr. Reeve took it away when be searched the house—I never dined at Regent-street above twice, at most three times—I did not take Mr. Jones to Fuller's shop to introduce him—he was introduced to Fuller as the articled clerk to Mr. Eden—I do not know that those were the words, but Fuller understood he was with Mr. Eden, by frequently visiting our house, and we frequently talked of Mr. Eden—Mr. Eden never came to our house to see Fuller—I never saw him in conversation with Fuller—I have known Mr. Eden some time—he came to my father's house when my father was ill—I have been at his house in Villiers-street—I know Mrs. Eden—I was never in any room there but the dining and bed-rooms, which are on the ground-floor—I never saw Mr. Bingham except at Kensington—my father never sheltered a bankrupt—Fuller was not a bankrupt then—my father had known his father many years—he never had any acquaintance with him himself—Fuller introduced himself to my father two years before that, as he said, at his father's request—Fuller never secreted himself—he said there was an execution in his house, and he was obliged to leave the house, and asked my father to take him in till he got a lodging—ours is a ten-roomed house—my father, brother, and myself only live there, and one female servant—I never remember father my trade—he is seventy-two years old.

Fuller. Q. Do you remember the 6th of April, the day I first called at your father's house? A. I do not know what day it was—I was in town next day, and called in Regent-street as I went and again as I returned, as Mrs. Fuller had not returned, to leave a message for Mrs. Fuller—I never knew her before—Mr. Preston, the shop man, never took me up stairs—I did not state that my father was aged, that the law was much altered since he was in it, and that I could find a young man who would take your case up and not charge anything for it—I never told you that Mr. Jones was in the law, nor that he was a barrister, or the brother of Mr. Chadwick Jones, you ought to be ashamed to ask me the question—I did not know there was a Mr. Chadwick Jones till I was examined at the Bankruptcy Court—my father has a silver snuffbox, which cost 25s.—you brought him one, and went with him to a silversmith to ask the value of it—he said, 25s.—you said, "I have not given too much, I only gave 23s"—my father went to put the money down to pay you for it, and you said, you should consider it an insult—the day you fetched us to dine at your house, my father, I, and you, went to the Polytechnic—Mr. Jones was not there—my father had his portrait taken—I believe he had four—they were to be taken to your home, and you paid for them, and the night you went to Manchester I paid you for them—you said, "Miss Lawrence, you will take that to buy a ring in remembrance of me"—I said I should not, and I put it upon the sideboard, and left it there—I saw that morning a black velvet dress, a black velvet shawl, and two French scarfs, one I purchased, and the other Mrs. Fuller wore—I bought that scarf on a Friday.

Q. Was it not at your father's house while all the goods were there and fetched down stairs? A. What goods were there? I never told Mrs. Chamberlain that I had a velvet dress and a black satin one, that I could not wear them in my present circumstances, but when married to Mr. Jones I should be a barrister's wife—I bought the black scarf the day I dined at your house, and the next day when you fetched us I bought the beaver shawl, and on Friday I bought the chenie scarf, at 1l. 11s. 6d.—it was in April, about the middle—I did not see you at my father's house after the bankruptcy—nothing was bought after you came to our house—I have no store-room—I have no bill of parcels of anything I bought—a parcel was brought, which Mrs. Fuller opened—she took nothing out of—it but linen to air—I never went to your shop but twice, and never bought any thing out of your shop but once, the other things I bought in your parlour—you waited on me—I have named three occasion's—I remember your brother Charles calling on me in September or October, and he stated you were the greatest rascal in the world, and never could speak one word of truth in ten, and nobody would believe you; and Mrs. Fuller has often said, "Take no notice what George says, he really cannot speak the truth"—indeed I thought it very odd a wife should say that of a husband.

Q. Did you not produce the copy of an account in a book, in which I was charged 20l. for striking the fraudulent docket, and your father said it should only be 10l.? A. I never produced anything but a small memorandum of items of sums Mr. Jones had lent or paid—my father nefer said anything of the kind—the conversation never passed.

MR. BODKIN. Q. When you speak of the day the execution went on, do you speak from your own knowledge? A. Only from what Fuller said—on the Thursday he came to stay at my father's, about the 29th of

April—my father is aged, and in an infirm state of health—I have a brother in the medical profession, and another a solicitor, at St. Ives, and Under Sheriff of the county—he, my father, and all the family are consenting to my marriage with Mr. Jones at present, whatever they may do after these proceedings I cannot say.

EMMA WATFORD . I am servant to Mr. Lawrence's family. I remember one evening in September seeing Mr. Jones at my master's house at tea—I cannot remember the day—Mr. Chamberlain, also Miss Lawrence and Mr. Charles Lawrence were there—Mr. Jones brought a pair of snuffers and tray with him, and gave them to Mr. Chamberlain, saying he had brought them from Regent-street—I remember Mr. and Mrs. Fuller and Mrs. Chamberlain coming about last May twelve-month—they staid about a week—Mr. Fuller came in the morning, and his wife and Mrs. Chamberlain came in the evening in a cab with luggage, which was taken up into the bed-room they occupied, and a parcel or two I took in the middle attic, which is a spare room—Mr. and Mrs. Fuller went into the attic after they were put there—I remember one morning Miss Lawrence asking Mr. Jones to bring her two mouseline-de-larne dresses, and in the evening I taw them—one was pink, the other drab—Miss Lawrence afterwards wore them in Fuller's presence very often—Fuller was lodging at Miss Logan's, Bridge-road, Hammersmith, after his return from Manchester, and then moved somewhere else.

COURT. Q. He visited again at Mr. Lawrence's after he came back, and on those occasions, and you have seen Miss Lawrence wearing the monseline-de-laine? A. Yes.

MR. DOANE. Q. Was Mrs. Fuller present on any of the occasions when Miss Lawrence had these dresses on? A. Yes—I saw a velvet dress, a shawl, and scarf—I fetched them down stairs, and Miss Lawrence gave them to Mr. Fuller—she said her father would not let her have the velvet dress, she must return it—Fuller left at the end of the week, to go to Manchester, and took all his luggage with him—I never saw a yellow-painted box in the attic—after he left I found a set of white muslin curtains in a cupboard in the house, and some tassels—I frequently met Mr. Chamberlain in the street, and did once, a day or two after they searched my master's house—he asked me if master and mistress owed me any money; if so, I was to get it as soon as I could, for they were swindlers and thieves—he said, "We mean to transport them all, Mr. and Miss Lawrence, and Mr. Jones"—he said he would raise heaven and earth to be revenged—I remember the night when the house was searched—Mr. Reeve came with Fuller—they found the curtains and tassels which were found after Fuller had left—Miss Lawrence said she wished me to be called to account for them—Reeve said there were plenty of opportunities of my explaining that at other places—I was afterwards summoned by Reeve to attend the Police-court—he did not call me as a witness—I remember a ringing at the bell of master's house, and a crowd—I saw Mr. Reeve and Fuller then walking backward and forward by master's house—Reeve rang the bell more than once—he asked if Mr. Jones was there—I said no—he asked my name—I refused to tell him—he said something, I almost forget what—I have been four years in the service. Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Living at Hammersmith? Yes, all that time—I have not been examined before this—I knew the examination took place, and went—I did not hear the proceed-—Fuller said he meant to settle my master this time, for they were determined to transport him—Reeve was present then—Fuller told the policeman to look well, that he might know me, and to watch me well on Sunday, that I might not go away—he said they meant to come on Monday and take me, and they meant to take masings

—I have stated what I knew to Mr. Jones, who has visited at master's house ever since—I have been there four years—I did not know where Mr. Jones lived during all that time—I have not been sent with messages to him till twelve months ago—he then lived in Paradise-row, Hammersmith—both Mr. and Miss Lawrence knew were he lived—it was one evening that he brought the snuffers, when he came from town—it was about a year ago—he took them from his pocket—they were at tea, and I brought a cup and saucer for Mr. Jones—Miss Lawrence was at home when Reeve came and asked my name—he asked Miss. Lawrence to allow him to explain matters to her, and not alarm her—he said he would speak to her at the door, he did not want to come in—he was alone at that time.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Other people were about the house? A. Yes.

MARY SMITH . I am in the service of Mr. Jones, and have been so about three years. There was a marble slab in the house—it was used to put on the top of the grate, to keep the soot from falling down—I have often seen Mr. Chamberlain at master's house—he came about the latter end of last summer—he took up his cane and said, "Mr. Jones, what a pity it is for you to have this marble to catch the soot on; I wish you would let me have it back again"—Mr. Jones said, "Yes, you can have it when you like to send for it"—I remember a china pomatum pot in master's house—I missed it about last January—at that time some parties came and searched master's house—I have seen it as long as I have lived there, which is three years—I should know it again—I did not see it at Kensington—I know Edmund Hooper, the brother of Chamberlain's servant—Brown, the carrier, had brought an umbrella-stand and some things to Mr. Jones's house by mistake—Hooper came to inquire about them the same day—I gave him two cushions, a bag, an umbrella-stand, and some sheets—I gave him all the things Brown had left, but the marble slab, as I heard master say he was going to have the slab down; I put it on the grate—Chamberlain's house is not far from Mr. Jones's—I saw Hooper take them into Chamberlain's house—I remember, on a Saturday in last June, Reeve, Fuller, and Chamberlain coming to master's house about five o'clock in the evening—I was standing at the gate—Reeve came first, and asked if Mr. Jones was at home—I said no—he then asked if I would let them in—I said no, I was not going to let anybody into master's house when he was out—I did not know whether they were thieves or robbers—Chamberlain was on the other side, waiting opposite—he went on while Reeve came and spoke to me—Reeve tapped me on the shoulder and said, "You are very right in standing up for your master—he said he came for some stolen property that was in the house—when I was going down the town Reeve and Fuller followed me—(I did not know where master was)—they were walking in the Broadway—they brought a policeman, and Fuller told him to take me—he did not say why—Reeve was with him, and heard what he said—the policeman declined—Fuller turned round, pointed to Lawrence's house, and said, "That is the house where the stolen property is"—Reeve was then standing with him—a great many people were then assembled about Lawrence's house—it was said loud enough for anybody to hear fuller said he meant to settle my master this time for they were determined to transport him—reeve was present then—fuller told the policeman to look well that he might know me, and to watch me well on sunday, that I might not go awayhe said they meant to come on monday and take me, and they meant to take was

they meant to come and search the house; and Fuller said, if I did not let them in, it would be all the same, for they intended to break in at night—this was said in the presence of forty or fifty people—there was a large mob—this continued about a quarter of an hour—I left the mob there and went home—Fuller and Reeve came again to the house, and knocked at the door, but I never opened it—I kept quiet.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. The mob I suppose were some of the tradesmen coming out of their houses? A. I suppose so. I did not know one of them—there are houses all about—some people came to their doors—people were standing at the chemist's shop—I do not know their names—none of them are here—Fuller and Reeve went into the Swan and fetched the policeman—when master was charged at the office he did not call me about the slab—he has asked me if I remembered this—I said, "Yes"—he said, "I shall want you"—he did not take me to the office—I have not been examined till to-day—he took me to the office, but I was not called—he had asked me before if I remembered about the slab, a day or two before I went to Kensington—I have never spoken to master on this business since I was at Kensington, I am sure—he never took down from me what I had to say—I have not spoken a word to him about it since I was at Kensington.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. you lived with Jones at that house during the whole three years? A. Yes. I slept in the house—there was no other servant—I do not know the day of the month that Reeve and Fuller came—it was after I refused to let them in that they said they came to search for stolen goods—when I left I was going to the butcher's—it was about nine o'clock in the evening—it was the time I always went—I was not going to seek my master—I did not know where he was—they came up to me again by Miss Lawrence's—I do not know how far that is from master's—I could walk down there in a quarter of an hour—the butcher lives a little higher up than Lawrence's—I had not arrived at Lawrence's house—I was not going there—I did not expect master was there—I was six or seven yards from Lawrence's when they came up—Fuller told the policeman I was going to tell master and prevent their finding the things they believed were at master's—I had noticed the china pot very frequently, I dusted and washed it.

MR. BODKIN. Q. How many times did you go to Kensington? A. Once. I believe it was the second time master went—before I went I told him what I knew about the slab and things—he has not examined me since.

JOHN BROWN . I am a carrier from Hammersmith to London—I know where Mr. Chamberlain lived in September—in that month I was passing and saw him at his door with Mr. Jones—I was called—they had sent Chamberlain's servant to my house for me to call, and I called—Jones had a written paper which he handed me with a direction to go to a house in Regent-street to fetch some goods—there was a list of the goods in the paper—I was to take some to Jones and some to Chamberlain—I went to Regent-street and saw a man there—I do not know his name—1 got the things and sent all I got to Jones's—I did not get all I was to have—I did not take anything to Chamberlain's—I did not get what I was to take to Chamberlain's—in fact I forgot what I was to leave there, and sent the first lot to Jones's—I was to call next day, I believe, for the other things—I afterwards saw Chamberlain, told him I had sent them to Jones's, and was

to call next day for the remainder, which I did, and took those to Chamberlain's—I took to Jones a marble slab, an umbrella-stand in brown paper, two preen cushions, and a white bag similar to a pillow case, tied at one end like a sack—I do not know of any door mats—next day took a mattrass the man had slept on and some things—I left them at Chamberlain's—when I called he said, "The things you bring to-day leave at my house," and I did—it was my blunder that some things went to Jones that ought to have gone to Chamberlain.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. What did you do with the list? A. Gave it to the man who gave me the goods. It was an order for the goods.

EDWARD HOOPER . My sister lived servant to Mr. Chamberlain—I recollect last year being sent by Jones to fetch some things left by mistake by the carrier—there were some cushions, a long brown paper parcel with an iron handle—it might be an umbrella-stand, and some other parcels—I took them to Chamberlain's house—Mr. and Mrs. Chamberlain came to me after I took them in—they were both present.

BINGHAM. I am an auctioneer, carrying on business in Ryder's-court, Leicester-square, and live in Viliiers-street, Strand. I was employed by Mr. Chamberlain to sell the furniture at the house in Regent-street, early in June—the fixtures were not to be sold in the first instance—I had attempted to sell on the 6th of May, and after that sale was done, I was stopped by Mr. Reeve from delivering the goods, as a Commission of Bankruptcy came in—I afterwards sold the furniture—I removed it some time afterwards, by direction of Chamberlain and Jones—the messenger's man came into possession on the 6th of May—he was there at the time I removed the goods—Hoad was there also—I removed the goods to my premises, and sold them—Jones attended all the sales, and the goods which were bought in were generally knocked down to him, in accordance with Mr. Chamberlain's instructions—he bought things at the sale—I have not brought the catalogue—I had it yesterday, but have changed my coat, and have not got it—this list is in my handwriting—it is a list of the articles I debited Jones with—here is a piece of marble at 2s., and an umbrella-stand—when I settled with Jones, I charged him with these articles, at the last settlement—when I paid him the proceeds of the sale, they were deducted—I paid him that amount less, by Jones's own direction—he made out the account—I made the sale by his direction—I did not see Chamberlain on the subject—Jones brought me a written order from Chamberlain to pay him the proceeds—I called on Chamberlain on the morning of the sale, and he said, "Whatever Mr. Jones does, take your order from him, whatever he buys will be bought in."

Cross-examined. Q. Where do you live? A. My residence is at No. 12, Villiers-street—Mr. Eden rents chambers of me, and lives in the same house—another gentleman occupies chambers on the first floor—Mr. Eden resides on the ground-floor—he is married—there are five rooms on the floor—he has a child, and a servant who sleeps in the attic—I have not seen him for three weeks—I believe he is at Ramsgate—I have seen Jones in Mr. Eden's office very often—I do not know that he was there daily on business—I never saw Miss Lawrence there—I saw her at the Police-office—I do not know where her father lives—I never saw her write. Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Have you been an auctioneer

some year? Five or six years—Mr. Eden has lived there ever since I built the premises, five or six years ago—he has two rooms as an office, one bed-room, a small ante-room, and the front parlour as a sitting-room I passed this catalogue at the Excise—the umbrella-stand was knocked down to Jones, at Regent-street—I do not say he bid for it—nobody bid for it—it was a lot out of the catalogue—the man brought it into the room—I thought it worth 5s—nobody responded, and I knocked it down—it was Chamberlain's instructions not to sacrifice the property—I considered myself bound to have it bought in—these goods were sold by day-light—I paid the proceeds of both sales to Jones—I never settled with Chamberlain, nor told him the amount—I never saw him but once or twice—he told me whatever Jones did he was his agent—I was examined on Jones's behalf before he was held to bail—the goods were scanty, and I thought it right to introduce other goods, as the things would fetch a better price, being sold on the premises—I was compelled to move these, as they were in possession of the place under the fiat—I did not apply to sell on the premises—I did not like to hazard it again—I had published a catalogue, advertised the sale, and was stopped the first time in the delivery—the first sale was placarded six or eight days before.

SARAH JUDD . I am a nurse and charwoman. I know Mr. Lawrence, of Hammersmith, very well—I remember seeing Mr. Fuller there—Miss Lawrence was present, and in Fuller's presence I took some drawing-room curtains to Miss Lawrence's laundress, Mrs. Pinner, No. 8, Angel-lane, as near as can tell, about twelve months ago—they were all white—there was no worsted embroidery about them—Miss Lawrence did not hand them to me, Mr. Fuller did, and he helped me to fold them up—I took them to Mrs. Pinner—on the 25th of June last, Reeve and Fuller came to my house—Fuller asked if I knew him—I said, "Yes"—he asked if I could recollect taking some curtains to Mrs. Pinner, in Angel-lane—I said, "Very well"—he said, "You remember taking two sets?"—I said, "No, sir, but one"—he said, "Do you remember what colour they were?"—I said, "All white"—I said it was a large figured border, wove in, but all white—he said, "Don't you remember taking a set embroidered with green worsted?"—I said, "No, I never saw such a thing"—he said, "Recollect yourself—I said, "That which I never saw I cannot say"—he looked at me, and said, "We shall call on you again in a few days"—I think I said I could say before 100 gentlemen, I never saw but one set of curtains, two curtains but not four—as they were going, Fuller said, "Don't notice to any one that we have called,"and Reeve said, "Of course riot"—I have never seen them since.

CHARLES ANSLIP . I am a solicitor—my house of business is in Charlotte-row, Mansion-house. I know Fuller—he called at my office in January last, and asked if I had seen a picture, which he described, at Mr. Lawrence's, at Hammersmith—I said I had not—Mr. Lawrence is my uncle, And I knew Fuller—after sneering at Mr. Jones, and being very bitter against him, he said Mr. Jones and Miss Lawrence would be transported "he went on to say that he had accused them both, that Miss Lawrence had been examined before the Bankruptcy Court, and Jones would be in a few days—he said he admitted he had perjured himself, but that the creators, through Mr. Reeve, had promised to protect him if he would turn round against Jones.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Has Mr. Jones ever been at your office? A. Frequently—Miss Lawrence is my cousin, and was fretrate could not be sitting after five, therefore, of to call next day for the remainder, which I did, and took those to Chamberlain's—I took to Jones a marble slab, an umbrella-stand in brown.

Cross-examined. Q. Where do you live? A. My residence is at No. 12, Villiers-street—Mr. Eden rents chambers of me, and lives in the same house—another gentleman occupies chambers on the first floor—Mr. Eden resides on the ground-floor—he is married—there are five rooms on the floor—he has a child, and a servant who sleeps in the attic—I have not seen him for three weeks—I believe he is at Ramsgate—I have seen Jones in Mr. Eden's office very often—I do not know that he was there daily on business—I never saw Miss Lawrence there—I saw her at the police-office—I do not know where her father lives—I never saw her write.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Have you been an auctioneer

quently at my office, and I believe with Jones—I believe she has written in my office—I have seen her writing there—what it is impossible for me to say—I have merely seen her with a pen in her hand—it was not a law instrument that I know of,—nobody was dictating to her that I recollect—I will swear Jones was not, nor anybody that I know of—I believe nobody was dictating to her—I will not swear the papers she was writing were not connected with Fuller's bankruptcy—she wrote at my desk, or side-table—I do not know that she was copying—I did not make particular observation—friends frequently call to rest, and if they like to write, I allow them.

Q. You mean to swear you have no notion what she was writing about? A. I do not say I have no notion—she might have been writing something connected with the bankruptcy, as Fuller, I believe, came to my office about the same time, and Jones and some of his friends had called—Miss Lawrence sat down to write once—she was writing, perhaps ten minutes or a quarter of an hour—I think it was about the bankruptcy, as the bankrupt, or some of his connexions, were at the office at the same time—they were in conversation with her—I do not know what about—I cannot tell what became of the paper she wrote—it was not engrossed in my office—I cannot say whether she took it away—Jones might be there in the coarse of the day—I swear he was not there writing at the time she was, because I do not recollect him writing—I think he was there when she was writing, but will not swear it—she did not come alone—I think Jones came in while she was there—I cannot recollect who came with her—two or three met at my office—I am not positive whether the bankrupt's brother did not come with her—I cannot say whether Jones and her went away together.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Who is your stationer? A. Messrs. Waterloo and Son—I never heard it proposed that what she was writing should be engrossed by my stationer—it might have been proposed, but not in my hearing—I never heard the proposition—I will swear it was not proposed to me to my knowledge—I have not the slightest recollection of such a thing—I never beard any one propose any thing of the kind-no papers in the bankruptcy were copied at my office, that I know of—I have two clerks—I never saw the paper, I never read a word of it—I never saw Miss Lawrence write in my office before or after on any occasion—I was not examined before the Magistrate—(looking at a paper)—I do not know this writing.

THOMAS ALLEY JONES re-examined. On my oath I never charged Fuller two guineas for any acts done by Mr. Anslip.

ROBERT HORNE (police-constable T 14.) I am stationed at Kensington Police-court. I remember Reeve, Fuller, Chamberlain, and Hoad coming there, and making some depositions—the Magistrate granted a warrant against Mr. Jones, on Saturday afternoon, the 18th of June—I first saw them, I think, at one o'clock in the afternoon, and afterwards about three—the Police-court is nearly three miles from Westminster-hall (I saw them last at Kensington and Hammersmith, at eleven at night) I and policeman Hill were employed to execute the warrant, for which purpose I accompanied Fuller, Reeve, Chamberlain, and Hoad, to the Bell and Anchor, Hammersmith turnpike-gate—we got there about half-past three in the afternoon—Reeve asked me, if I succeeded in taking Mr. Jones, whether he would be locked up till the Monday morning, or whether he would be hailed?—I said the Magistrate could not be sitting after five, therefore, of

course, if I took him, he would be locked up until Monday morning—he said, "Supposing he is locked up, you will go and search the premises with me and there we shall find some hundreds of pounds worth of property, which has been swindled by him"—I was concealed in the public-house, when Reeve was waiting for every omnibus that came down, expecting that Jones would come down with it, and I was to take him into custody—I remained thereabout two hours with the whole of the party—Reeve said he believed Mr. Jones to be a great swindler—we then adjourned into another public-house in the Broadway—it was nearer Mr. Lawrence's house—Reeve took us there—he said it was most likely Jones would come there, that there were some boxes left at that public-house—Reeve called me out of the public-bout, and told roe to follow him—he pointed out a servant-girl, who he said was the servant of Mr. Jones, and said "Take this girl into custody"—I raid I could not, there was no evidence for me to do so—he said, "Well, then, take particular notice of her, that you may know her again"—this was opposite Mr. Lawrence's house—I suppose there were about fifty people round us in about five minutes—the house was pointed out to me by Reeve—he said, "That is the house Mr. Jones has been in the habit of frequenting;"—a police-constable was with me in the public-house, nobody else—Chamberlain and Fuller were outside with Reeve, watching—both Reeve and Fuller said I should find some hundred pounds worth of property in the house—they were both present, and both said so—if I succeeded in taking Jones, the other policeman was to take him to the police-court, and I was to go to Mr. Jones's house, and search his premises in his absence—Reeve and Fuller both proposed that.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did Reeve appear to you to desire to have the opportunity of searching Jones's house? A. Yes—I did not hear my brother officer, or any body else suggest that some handcuffs should be taken—I suggested that they should not—nobody suggested that they should to my knowledge—I am not aware of it—there might have been handcuffs mentioned, but I really do not recollect—I did not take any handcuffs—I do not recollect whether it was proposed they should be taken, and whether Reeve did not desire me on no account to permit any to be taken—I will not swear it did not take place.

JAMES MORGAN . I am an inspector of the T division of police. On the 18th of June, I was sent for by Mr. Lawrence of Hammersmith—it was a little before dusk—I went to the house, and saw Mr. Lawrence—he made a communication to me, and on my return I saw Mr. Reeve and two or three people standing at the corner of the street—Reeve was pointing to the house, and speaking to the people, but I do not know what he said—I went to a public-house, having heard there were two police constables there, to see what they were doing—during the time I was in the parlour of the public-house, Reeve and Fuller came in—I was in plain clothes—they did not know who I was for some time—they were in conversation with the sergeant, wishing that he would instruct the sergeant of that neighborhood to place a policeman to watch Jones's house that night, to take care that nothing was removed—I then told them I was the inspector of the district, and if there was anything to communicate I should be very happy to attend to it—Reeve then wished me to place a policeman there to see that nothing was removed—I said I would be answerable that there should not be anything removed, for I would place a man there that night, which I did—I asked the sergeant, and constable

what they were doing, and then they showed me their warrant—Reeve wished to know what would be done with Jones if he was apprehended that evening—he was told he most be locked up, and detained till Monday as there was no Magistrate till then, and we could not take bail for him—I told him I had heard several complaints from Miss Lawrence about her bell being broken, and rung, and I thought it was very unmanly, and ungentlemanly work for any person who called himself a gentleman to do such a thing—he denied having done so, but afterwards acknowledged that he had rung the bell—he said, "As to Miss Lawrence, I know sufficient to transport her, but I do not wish to say any thing against her, being a female"—he said, "You are warm"—I said, "Any man was warm in the canst of a respectable female, being annoyed in this manner"—he said, "You are a very gallant man"—I said, "Why I am a man"—I had known Mr. Jones five or six years before this—the day following Jones wrote me a note, communicating his intention to surrender on the Monday, to meet any charge that might be made against him—I did not communicate that to Mr. Reeve—I did that night at the station, to the sergeant who held the tarrant—I was in attendance on Monday the 20th, when this matter first came before the Magistrate—a person then applied to postpone the hearing, which was granted.

cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did you hear how Mr. Jones found out there was a warrant against him? A. I did not.

THOMAS ALLEY JONES re-examined, I believe this letter to be Mr. Reeve's handwriting—(this was a letter from Reeve to Mr. Clive, the Magistrate, dated June 20th, 1842, stating that he had just received an intimation of Mr. Jones's intention to attend at the police-office at three o'clock that day, to meet the charge against him, and requesting that the matter might be adjourned until the following day, that he might be prepared with the necessary evidence)—I asked Mr. Reeve for the examinations at the Bankruptcy Court, and they were refused—I received my own without paying for it, but Miss Lawrence's and Mr. Anslip's I paid for.

The examinations of Fuller before the Court of Bankruptcy were here read in part, in which he declared that his balance-sheet contained a full and true disclosure of all his effects, and that he had never removed, concealed, or embezzled any part thereof, with any intent to defraud his creditors—part of a statement made by him on the 25th of May, 1841, was as follows: "I first heard that a docket had been struck against me when I saw the notices in the paper; I had never heard that my father had struck a docket; I have only seen my father once since I received the notice; I left my house when the furniture was to be sold by auction; I supposed that I should have nothing to lie on, and so I went away; up to that time I had no notice whatever that a docket had been struck against me; the cheque drawn on the 27th of April was an exchange cheque."

On the 21st of January, 1842, the following examination took places:—"Q. Do you charge Mr. Thomas Alley Jones with having received any property of yours? A. I do; the books now produced, the Directory, and the Royal Blue-book, and the paper, are the property of my estate; I never sold either to Mr. Jones, or ever sold or lent them; I say the Analogy of the Old and New Testaments' is mine also; I never lent or sold them to Mr. Jones; I never received 10s., or any sum, for either of them."

ELLEN PINNER . I am a laundress, and live at Hammersmith. I was in

the habit of washing for Miss Lawrence. I know a person named Sarah Judd—I remember some time ago her bringing a set of white muslin curtains to be washed—I washed, bleached them, took them to Miss Lawrence, and received 3s. for them—some time after that Fuller and Reeve called on me, with a tall, stout gentleman, in white trowsers, I do not know who—it was not Mr. Chamberlain—it was between two and three months ago, I think about June, and between eight and nine o'clock in the evening—as I ctme up to the door, Mr. Reeve was looking through my window, and Fuller knocking at my door—Reeve said, "She is at home, she has got a fire in the room"—I asked them their business—they asked me if my name was Mrs. Pinner—I said, "Yes"—I unlocked the door, and they walked in—Reeve took a chair from my window, walked round my table, sat down, and laid some papers on the table—Fuller followed—I was going to shot the door, and the other gentleman came from across the road—I said, "How many more is there coming?—they said, "My good woman, don't be frightened, we don't wish to hurt you"—I said, "I am not frightened of three gentlemen"—Reeve said, "I am come to subpoena you up at the Old Bailey"—I said, "What for?"—he said, "For washing some curtains for Miss Lawrence"—I said, "Indeed!"—Reeve asked me if I wished them—I said I did wash a set of curtains—Fuller said, "You washed two sets"—I said, "I did not, sir"—he said, "You had a set with white, and one embroidered with worsted"—I said, "I never had such a thing in my life"—he said, "You did have such a thing"—I said, "I did not"—be said, "Have you washed for Miss Lawrence?"—I said, "I have"—he said, "Were you ever up in Miss Lawrence's rooms?"—I said, "Never but once"—Fuller said, "Did you ever notice any thing in her house?"—I said, "When I went to wash for her she paid me for what I did, therefore I did not look what she had got in" her rooms, neither did I meddle with their affairs"—Reeve said, "Did Mr. Jones tell you to say this?"—I said, "Not to my knowledge"—I never spoke to Mr. Jones in my life"—he said, "But you know him"—I said, "Only by his coming to Mr. Lawrence's, but I never took the liberty of speaking to him"—Mr. Fuller said, "You had two sets"—I said, "I had not in my house"—I had a short curtain at the window, and I said the curtain I had was similar to that—he asked me if they were oval curtains—I said I could not rightly tell, but I knew they were white ones—he said, "My good woman, if you say you had two sets, I will pay your expenses, and will likewise make yoa a handsome present after it is over"—I said I would not say it for 20l.—Reeve said directly, "I think, Mr. Fuller, this woman speaks like an honest woman, therefore she will not do for you, she can say nothing in your behalf, therefore you can have no demand of her"—I had one set of curtains from Mrs. Lawrence to wash for Mr. Fuller—I never had more than one set in my life.

THOMAS ALLEY JONES re-examined. This letter (looking at one) is not my handwriting—I never saw it before—these are—(looking at three others, see page 1003)—I did not receive a letter from Reeve on the 9th of June, offering to produce the proceedings in bankruptcy, in case they were wanted on Fuller's trial for perjury—I received a letter afterwards from Mr. Reeve, I think, on the 10th—I have not had notice to produce it, or I would most willingly have done so—I have heard of no such notice—if one had been left at my house I think I should have heard of it.

Fullers Defence. In April, last year, I was possessed of a house and

premises in Regent-street, for which, in the previous November I had paid a premium of 300l. on an annual rental of 350l.; I had a stock worth 1800l., furniture worth 300l. more, and expended 1000l. and upward in additions; I had credit everywhere, money at my banker's, and at bright prospects of doing well as any man. From the detail I am about to lay before you, you will find much to condemn; perhaps, for myself, little to pity. Messrs. Saunders and Woolly were employed by me to make the decorations; I gave acceptances for their debt, and had a right to expect they would be met, having to receive a considerable sum from Chamberlain, my father-in-law; the loan was postponed on account of some delay in completing the sale of the estate, and my acceptances were dishonored; I explained to Mr. Saunders my situation, and he had such an opinion of my honesty as a tradesman, and my faith as a man, that he was content to forego any further security, relying on the character I had earned by yean of honest servitude. In April, 1841, I received from Chamberlain 1600l. It was rather less than the sum I had been led to expect, and it was accompanied by a demand that I should give a warrant of attorney; perhaps it was right to require it, but it was unexpected on my part, and this, accompanied by a diminution in the loan, led to a quarrel; I was unable to take up the acceptances, and on the 6th of April, 1841, I was served with I writ and demand of payment within twenty-one days; it was the first and last writ I ever received; I was astounded and knew not what to do, and in an evil hour I went to Mr. Lawrence, of Grove-cottage, whom I had known in my early days, to seek advice how to act; I told him my case; on the following day Miss Lawrence came to my bouse, and said she had a friend, a gentleman to whom she was engaged, a barrister, who would see me safely through the matter, and no money out of pocket. Can it be wondered that inexperienced and embarrassed as I was, I should gladly accept such an offer? securing, as I thought, the services of an eminent barrister, the nephew of Mr. Alley—little did I then know that he was an attorney's clerk. I was introduced to this friend, who was to set all ray difficulties straight—it was Mr. Jones, the prosecutor—I am precluded, from my situation, from giving evidence on oath, but in the presence of God, before whose bar I must one day appear, I solemnly assert, that the first thing this man tried to persuade me to do was to get my brother Charles to declare he had been served with a process instead of me; as, however, he could not persuade me to this, he stated he would hit on another plan, whereby Saonden and Woolley should be defeated, at the same time telling me my scruples were ridiculous, and that such things were done daily. How was it, you will say, that I did not at once repudiate not only the advice but the adviser?—well, indeed, would it have been for me, had I done so; but those only placed in commercial embarrassment can estimate the difficulties that surround a man, and make him listen to any mode which he hopes may serve him. It was then suggested that I should give a bill for 100l. to an auctioneer, a friend of his, who should strike a friendly docket, and carry me safely through; as, however, I felt some diffidence in placing myself in the hands of a stranger, it was arranged that I should write to my father, give him a bill of exchange, and that he should strike a docket on it; this was on the 12th; on the Friday after my father had an internet with Mr. Reeve; from that Monday Mr. Lawrence and his daughter were constantly at my house, dined at my table, and on each evening carried away some articles from my shop, the old gentleman saying Lucy might take what

she pleased, and pay me when my troubles were over. On Saturday the 17th, Jones came to my house from the country; he said Mr. Chamberlain would put an execution in next Monday, and begged me to pack up some things which he could take away and secure for us; on that occasion he took a yellow painted box full of goods, among others two mousse line-delaine dresses, various little articles of the toilet, also some curtains, both damask and muslin; on the following day, April the 18th, I saw him at Mr. Lawrence's house; he then stated that he had ascertained that Chamberlain's execution was not so much to be feared, as the docket being struck by Walters and Reeve, and advised me to secure so much of my stock as would enable me to start in business again; my scruples were overruled by Mr. Lawrence, who said it was of every day's occurrence; he instanced several persons who had followed the same plan, and were now worth several thousand pounds, and said that my credit would be better than ever. I was beguiled by his advice, seconded by the arts of Jones, and I executed the fatal deed on the following day. On Monday, the 19th, Charles Lawrence breakfasted at my house, and afterwards removed upwards of 500l. worth of property at one swoop; silks, satins, and costly shawls, in a cab, and the account now in possession of the solicitors to the fiat, and which, I declare, I received from Jones himself, charges me with the very cab-hire on that day which conveyed away my property; about twelve o'clock on that day Chamberlain put in his execution. On the 29th April, early in the morning, Jones told me in a great hurry that Walters and Reeve had obtained execution against me, and I must leave my house, or I should be put in priaon; I was then entirely under his control, I implicitly believed what be told me, and I left my house, never to return to it—yes, within sit months of my expending 1187l. on the premises, without anything to induce my departure but the lies of this Mr. Jones, I was frightened away from my house, and became a broken man. I have since ascertained, and if it is needed it can be proved, that his statement was utterly false; that Messrs. Walters and Reeve had no judgment against me, and that this was a mere pretext to get me away from my house, and leave my valuable property to his plunder. Previous, however, to this, my father had returned to town; an old stamp was supplied by Jones, and a note of 100l., drawn by my father on me, was executed at the Burton coffee-house, in Cheap side; a docket was struck on this; the act of bankruptcy being, that Jones and my father should go and knock at my front-door, inquire if I was at home, and that this should be denied. Jones and my father having parted from me in my parlour, went through my shop, and knocked at my private door; as previously instructed, one of my young men, named Preston, denied me; they then gravely passed through the shop again, and returned to my parlour, laughing heartily at the forms of law; they then went to the Bankrupt-office, and struck the docket; when my father returned, he told me how Jones had ken puzzled to describe himself, and that at last he had put himself down as clerk to Mr. Eden; which, he said, he supposed was some humbug, Previous to that, I believed him to be a barrister, and a person of fortune, and was disposed the more implicitly to place myself under his control. I can ask myself now, how I could be such a fool? but I used to listen to the stories of this man and of his grand relatives, and little knew his real history. On one occasion he wished me to dine with him at the Temple-hall, where, he said, champagne would be flowing in quantities;

he was previously aware that I was engaged; he afterwards taid his health had been drunk by the Solicitor-General; he pointed out house in Hammersmith, which he said belonged to him; and was believed by myself and family to be a person of great importance; and the assurances of Mr. Lawrence and his daughter, that he was a man of fortune, induced me to place myself in his hands, and to plunge myself into that vortex by which I have been brought to destruction. I left my house on the 29th of April, and then went for a short time to old Mr. Lawrence's; I was there three days, with the bulk of my property, there concealed, and I then removed, by Jones's desire, to Manchester; while there, I saw in the papers that Walters and Reeve had got a fiat against me. I was asto. nished, and so was my father. We had been assured by Jones that hit fiat would prevent any other proceedings. I returned to town, and, by Jones's advice, it was arranged that I should be introduced to some solicitor in the City, whose name would carry some weight, and support me in passing my examination—he pitched on Mr. Alderman Wood; an introduction was effected, I know not how; I saw the Alderman, and my balance-sheet, sketched out by old Mr. Lawrence and Jones, was laid before him; he took care never to let me see the Alderman alone. I understand now how it was that I was never trusted by myself. I begged Jones to allow me to restore the goods to Walters and Reeve. I said, now, as his fiat had failed and been set aside, the goods had better be given up to the creditors. Mr. Lawrence, Miss Lawrence, and Mr. Jones, prevented this; my scruples were ridiculed; and when I said it would be perjury to pass such accounts as sketched out by him, he said, for that matter, all bankrupts did it; he mentioned instances that he had knows, of men who had property concealed, and were afterwards successful in business; and when this seemed to have no effect, Miss Lawrence flung herself on the sofa in hysterics, exclaiming, that they had done all they could to serve me, and now I should get them all transported; (I should have mentioned that Miss Lawrence herself is half an attorney; with ber own hand she engrossed the affidavits in support of the fiat; she, Jones, myself, and my brother Charles's wife, met at Mr. Charles Anslip's apartments, and there she took as active and energetic a part as Jones himself; that affidavit is now in the Court of Review; I have seen it; it would have gpne to Mr. Anslip's stationers, but there was not sufficient time;) at length I consented; I appeared before the Court, and passed my accounts; now his snares were completed, and his victim wsi secured—what mattered it to Mr. Jones and the Lawrence. however I resisted? I had sworn to my accounts—my property was then, and is now, in their possession. Jones had been hitherto dressed so shabbily, that it was the subject of remark; but "he is an eccentric man," was the explanation; now he makes a different appearance. Miss Lawrence, who, until then appeared dressed very plainly, suddenly appeared dressed in satins, the plunder of my creditors; while the very body-linen of my wife, taken out of kindness, as she said, was, without scruple, appropriated to her own person; my suspicions that they meant to leave me in the lurch were excited by this. A short time afterwards I encountered a younger sister of Miss Lawrence's in the streets of St. Ives, and recognized on her shoulders a valuable shawl of mine, which I say plainly was and is stolen from my creditors; I had never sold it. I mentioned it to several parties with me; I gave information to Walters and Reeve, the solicitors to the fiat: they

have written to Mr. John Lawrence, of St. Ives, charging his sister with being in possession of goods stolen from my estate; and all the explanation they could obtain from him was, that if I chose to subpoena any of the family, and pay their expenses, they would come up; when I have not a farthing in the world. In September, 1841, part of the goods were sent to my father's, in a box removed by Jones; it arrived apparently in the same condition, but, on opening it, a mousse line-de-lain dress had been removed; and a little china pot, a present to my wife in her childwood valued on that account; these form this subject of the first count in the indictment; these articles were missed, and again until found in the houses of Miss Lawrence and Mr. Jones. I most solemnly assert that they were removed from the box given to Jones, and taken away from my house on Saturday, 17th of April; I missed them immediately I opened the box; my wife was angry at finding them gone, but I said she must say nothing; we were in Jones's hands, and could not complain of the loss of such trifles; as, however, I had, as I believed, from 400l. to 500l. worth of goods still remaining in his hands, I sent to him to inquire what his demand against me was; his letters are now open to your inspection. I afterwards met him, and said if he would give me what goods he had I would give them to Messrs. Walters and Reeve, and never disclose to them what part he had acted in the matter; he laughed at me, and at length plainly said, that if I dared to split it should be my ruin; he, perhaps, might get a short imprisonment, bull that the assignees should never get their goods, and they would be sure to proceed, and transport myself and him. I made the only reparation in my power; I went to Mr. Alderman Wood, and told him all; by his advice I went to Messrs. Walters and Reeve—I confessed all that had been done, and, as they can bear me witness, without making any stipulations for myself as to mercy. I made a statement and signed it, leaving myself entirely in their hands; the consequence was that search warrants were obtained; the houses of Miss Lawrence and Mr. Jones were searched: in the former were the remnants of property once concealed; but in the latter, the house was filled with furniture that had once been mine. This Mr. Jones, professing to be a barrister and a man of fortune, turned out to be the resident of a small cottage, value about 4s. a-week, and the costly furniture which once decorated my premises in Regent-street, was there discovered; in the bed-room I recognized my door mat, and several other articles equally out of place, and the china pot was in the cupboard. As to the examination that took place by the solicitors to the fiat, that will speak for itself; and if, as men of business, you can read the examinations of Mr. Jones and Miss Lawrence and say that they are innocent, then I must submit to your verdict, only saying, that in this case vice would be triumphant. It may be as well to state that Mr. Jones, when be obtained this true bill against me, and got process on it, dared to appear at the house of Mr. Chamberlain at half past ten o'clock at night; my wife and Mrs. Chamberlain were preparing for bed, partly undressed, they were dragged to the station, Mr. Jones, accompanied by four policemen, personally superintending their capture; and he even dared to come to my house clad in my own clothes, the plunder of my wardrobe; I taxed him with it, and he did not, and dared not, deny it. I am charged with endeavoring to injure the character of Mr. Jones; if either he or Miss Lawrence had had a character, I should not now be standing at your bar but should have been a respectable tradesman, a respected master,

and, I am sure, a prosperous man. Much was said yesterday by Mr. Bodkin about the indictment for perjury preferred against me by Mr. Jones. I am glad he did so, as it affords me an opportunity of accounting for the delay which took place between the search warrants in January and the proceedings in June. I accidentally heard that I had been indicted; (in fact, I saw one of the Grand jury;) I knew not by whom, I fancied it was by my creditors; and until a copy of the indictment could be obtained I went to Ostend, having a cousin there, who keeps the English hotel; I was there three weeks, and a copy of the indictment was forwarded to me, and when I found that the two witnesses against me were Mr. Jones and Miss Lawrence, I returned instated, and walked the streets of London for months. Mr. Jones never intended to indict me for a shilling; I was still in the same apartment where he once called, and where one of his letters was addressed, No. 5, Waruick-court, Hol born. Mr. Jones told me that the creditors would take no proceedings against him until I had given them the opportunity of testing the truth of his statement by putting him into the witness box. I had no funds; I could not raise enough to defend myself; I told Mr. Reeve that I was ready and anxious to be tried; I obtained an order for the certiorari by Mr. Reeve's advice; I met my trial, and knowing myself to be perfectly innocent, gave Jones the opportunity of clearing his character. The indictment for perjury was under proceedings in bankruptcy; it became necessary, therefore, that the fiat should be proved; this could only be done by Mr. Reeve, and to prevent any chance or pretext for Jones saying that the case failed on technical grounds, Mr. Reeve served the notice that I would take my trial personally at once, and gave him a pledge that any evidence which was necessary from his office, as solicitor to the fiat, should be forthcoming; he did this with my full knowledge, consent, and wish, for I was as anxious as he could be that the case should be tried fairly and openly on its merits, Mr. Jones called at Mr. Reeve's office the following day, and said he wished him to write him a letter; Mr. Reeve immediately sent the following letter; notice to produce the original has been served on Mr. Jones, and the copy can be proved:—"Sir, I can have nothing to write to you about; to prevent any pretence for the case against George Fuller breaking down oo technical points, I give you notice that I will take care that any witness you require from our office shall be forthcoming, and that the residence of any others whom you may require shall be furnished, if known to us. I write this to prevent any mistake; the cause is entered on Monday—it stands No. 2. To Mr. T. A. Jones, 12, Villiers-street, Strand." Now, will it be believed, that on preparing for my trial at great expense, on the case being called on, Jones slunk out of Court, and it turned out that he had issued a certiorari, and this was his pretended anxiety to vindicate his character. This happened on Tuesday, the 14th of June. Mr. Reeve then said, "Now I have put you and Jones to the test, he is afraid of the encounter, and I believe all that you have told me. The same week a warrant was obtained against Jones, as deposed to by Mr. Clive, so that the delay which had occurred was not five months, but three days, and the statement that that had anything to do with the trial of Mr. Chamberlain is false. Mr. Reeve can prove what I have said is all true, and that so far from Chamberlain and myself being friends as soon as Jones commenced his ridiculous action against me, we were not even on speaking terms when Jones and the Lawrences' houses were searched—he can prove that all the proceedings of the assignees had been totally irrespective of Chamberlain,

and that so far from his having anything to do with them, he never appeared in the case but when compelled. The china pot, which there has been so much said about, was never produced at the Bankruptcy Court at all on any occasion. Mr. Reeve sent a person out of court for it; it was in my possession; Mr. Reeve allowed Mrs. Fuller to reserve it; the other articles produced were all marked by Mr. Commissioner Merivale as exhibits; the mousseline-de-laine dresses were only bought a short time previously; the black ground one I bought of Messrs. James and Co., of Friday-street, they cost me 18s. each; is it likely I should sell them for 12s. or 14s.? No article ever left my shop to any customer without a bill being made and examined by a young man, and it was always stamped by the cashier in the books; the official assignees possess every book of mine. and the receipts show no such account; I most solemnly declare that they were never paid for.

The following letters from Jones to Fuller were here read.)—"5th October, 1841. Dear Sir,—I heard on the morning I received your note, so many charges against you, that I know not what to think, and among the rest that you had exhibited to Tom W—d a statement of mine, and that there was written at the bottom that yon were now in my debt 80l. exclusive of Mr. W's. charges, and that I had kept you here a whole week without money of yours or any account, &c, &c, and as this can easily be proved to be false by producing the account, may I for that purpose request you to send it to me by return of post, when you shall hear further from me. I remain, yours truly, "T. J."

(The direction was torn off, with the exception of "Cambridgeshire.") "Monday morning. (Post-mark, August 10, 1841.) Dear Sir,—I am really surprised I did not hear from you, in answer to my letter of Thursday last. However, I am still unwilling to believe any thing to your prejudice; I therefore trust I shall hear from you by return of post; and as you stated in your last letter you could not depend on your father to send you money to take you to him, if he has not, I will send you the needful. They state they intend to go before the next Grand Jury, but I will watch their movements, and let you know. If they should at all apply to your father, tell him not to be frightened, but immediately write to me, and I will see to it." "T. A. J."

(Post-mark, November 10, 1841.) "My dear Sir,—I beg to inform you your account has increased since you left here, and in what manner it has become so I will explain to yourself whenever you wish it. The amount now due to me is about 30l.—I had intended to have offered you 5l. Perhaps you will drop me a line, appointing a place for me to meet you. Yours truly, "T.J."

(The following was written on the particulars of sale.)—"My dear Sir,—This property was yesterday put up for sale, and was knocked down without a single bidder. I wish you would write to me more fully. In haste, I am yours, &c. "T. A JONES."

MR. ALDERMAN THOMAS WOOD . I am a solicitor, carrying on business in the City. I know the defendant Fuller—I do not recollect the date of my first becoming acquainted with him, but it was about the time of his bankruptcy—I was professionally engaged to pass his examination—I really do not recollect by whom I was engaged—he was introduced to me by some gentlemen at the time, and he was accompanied also by the prosecutor, Mr. Jones—I saw Mr. Jones two or three times—I attended Fuller

at his repeated examinations before the Commissioner—he succeeded in passing—he afterwards came to me, and made a disclosure, upon which I made a communication to Walters and Reeve.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Did Mr. Jones pay your charges? A. The bankrupt did—I received a part from Mr. Jones, and part from Fuller.

ALEXANDER SAUNDERS . I am a partner in the firm of Saunders and Woolley, house-decorators, in Regent-street. I performed some decorations for Fuller's shop—he owes me 800l.—I have not received any portion of it—his character was highly respectable; his integrity stood undisputed.

COURT. Q. Was the 800l. for decorations? A. For furniture, and a variety of things supplied to him—I am the assignee of the estate.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Were you present when the charge was made at the police-office at Kensington? A. Yes, I attended as Fuller's assignee—the steps then taken against Mr. Jones were under my authority, and with my sanction—it was not on the representation of Chamberlain and Fuller—I had no communication with them whatever—I had with the solicitor, Mr. Reeve.

(William Rawlins, Esq., gentleman, formerly a physician, of Lincoln; and Mr. George Harrison, of the Heralds' College, deposed to Chamberlain's good character; and William Jones Unit, a creditor of Fuller's, and Dr. Rawlins, to that of Fuller.)


GEORGE FULLER— GUILTY. Judgment Respited.


NEW COURT.—Monday, September 19th, 1842.

Fifth Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.

Reference Number: t18420919-2574

2574. ABRAHAM STRONG was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of August, 1 live tame rabbit, price 1s.; the goods of Edward Cooper.

EDWARD COOPER . I live in Sandford-street, Portland-market. I let my rabbit out of a hutch, in the stall, in the market on the 27th of August—I saw it running about, about twenty minutes before eight o'clock—I missed it five or ten minutes after.

JAMES PORTER . I am a labourer, and live in Little James-street, Lisson-grove. On the morning of the 27th of August the prisoner brought a rabbit, about eight o'clock—he asked if I would buy it—I gave him 8d. for it—the policeman came at three o'clock, and I gave it to him.

MATTHEW REARDON (police-sergeant D 135.) On the 27th of August I took the prisoner into custody—he said he knew nothing about the rabbit, that he was not near the neighbourhood—I took him to a person in Exeter-street, and said to him, "Were you not offered a rabbit for sale?"—he Mid, "Yes, by the prisoner"—the prisoner then turned to the prosecutor, and said, "If I get your rabbit it will be all right"—in going to the station he said he picked the rabbit up, and sold it to Porter.

Prisoners Defence. I found it in Red Lion-street; I crossed the market—there was a man there I knew—I asked if it belonged to him—he said no—I said I saw no owner.


Reference Number: t18420919-2575

2575. JAMES CRUICKSHANK KENNEDY was indicted for a misdemeanor.


Reference Number: t18420919-2576

2576. JOHN WARD was indicted for a misdemeanor.


Reference Number: t18420919-2577

2577. EDWARD WHITE was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of August, 1 watch, value 18l.; 2 seals, value 10s.; 1 watch-key, value 5s.; and 1 split ring, value 3s.; the goods of George Rutt, from his person; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 31.— Transported for Ten Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2578

2578. JOHN HUGHES was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of August, 106lbs. weight of lead, value 14s.; the goods of John Goldfinch Brown and another, and fixed to a building; to which he pleaded, GUILTY . Aged 28.— Confined Twelve Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2579

2579. MARY DAVIS was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of August, 1 half-crown, 2 shillings, and 1 sixpence, the goods of James Chapman, her master; to which she pleaded GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined One Month.

Reference Number: t18420919-2580

2580. GEORGE BLAKE was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of September, 2 handkerchiefs, value 7s. 6d., the goods of Ellis Goode Lobb; to which he pleaded GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Sit Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2581

2581. EDWARD LEWIS was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of August, 1 coat, value 4s.; and 1 pair of trowsers, value 7s.; the goods of Joseph Thorne: and 1 pair of trowsers, value 7s.; and 1 apron, value 1s.; the goods of Henry David Cuff, his master; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Three Days.

Reference Number: t18420919-2582

2582. WILLIAM COOMBS was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of September, 1 handkerchief, value 5s., the goods of Thomas Bunting Lee, from his person; and that he had been before convicted of felony.

THOMAS BUNTING LEE . I live at Daventry, in Northamptonshire. I was in Smithfield, a little before eleven o'clock in the morning, on the 1st of September—I heard something; I turned, and saw a gentleman in pursuit of the prisoner—I looked, and my handkerchief was at my feet—I took it up—I had used it in St. John-street—I saw the prisoner caught—this is my handkerchief.

CHARLES WOODHOUSE WOOLASTON . I was in West Smithfield on this morning—I saw the prisoner lift up the prosecutor's pocket and takeout this handkerchief—I made towards him—he threw it down and ran through the market—I pursued, and took him in Long-lane, without losing sight of him.

STEPHEN SMITH (City police-constable, No. 254.) I took the prisoner, and have the handkerchief.

Prisoner's Defence. I was twenty yards behind the man when the gentleman laid hold of me.

JOHN BUCKLE . I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction, which I got from Mr. Clark's office—(read)—the prisoner is the person.

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Ten Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2583

2583. JOHN ROSE was indicted for stealing, on the 2nd of September, 1 handkerchief, value 4s. 6d., the goods of Hugh Rowland, from his person.

HUGH ROWLAND . I live in East-street, Manchester-square. On Friday evening, the 2nd of September, I was in Smithfield—an officer spoke to me—I then missed my handkerchief—this is it.

BENJAMIN ASHMEAD (City police-constable, No. 291.) I was in Smithfield—I saw the prisoner take the handkerchief out of the prosecutor's pocket—I took him, and he threw the handkerchief down—I picked it up—this is it.

Prisoner. He said he saw another one run away from me. Witness. The other ran away, but I saw you with the handkerchief in your hand, and you took it.

Prisoner's Defence. I had nothing to do with it; there was plenty behind me.

GUILTY. Aged 17.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury.— Confined Six Months.

NEW COURT.—Tuesday, September 20th, 1842.

Sixth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

Reference Number: t18420919-2584

2584. WILLIAM SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of August, 3 handkerchiefs, value 9s. 6d.; and 11 yards of silk, value 4l.; the goods of William Edmund Whitelock; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 28.— Confined Four Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2585

2585. WILLIAM KING was indicted for stealing, on the 2nd of September, 1 coat, value 1l. 10s.; and 1 cloak, value 1l. 10s.; the goods of Benjamin Crosby Marshall.

BENJAMIN CROSBY MARSHALL . I live in Hamilton-terrace, St. John's-wood-road. On the 2nd of September I lost a cloak and a macintosh coat from my gig, at the Castle and Falcon—these now produced are mine.

JOSEPH BIFFJN . I am ostler at the Castle and Falcon, in Aldersgate-street. On the 2nd of September the prosecutor was there—I saw the prisoner in the stables—I followed him out of the yard, and I saw him with these coats, which I had had in my care.

HENRY MOORE . I saw the prisoner running across Aldersgate-street—I cried out, "Stop thief"—he ran, and dropped the things just as the policeman took him.

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2586

2586. CHARLES POOL was indicted for embezzlement.

JOHN THOMAS . I keep the Civet Cat, at Kensington. The prisoner was my pot-boy since Christmas—it was his duty to receive money for the

beer, which he ought to pay me the same week—he did not pay me 5s. on the 2nd of August, or 5s. on the 9th, or 5s. on the 16th.

Prisoner. I trusted all the customers on my own hands—I received this money—I meant to make it good—ray master accepted these terms, and the next day had me taken—his daughter owes me 13s. Witness. I let him take out beer on credit—if he took out a pot of beer, it was his duty to bring me the money—I have no reason to believe he trusted anybody on his own account—my daughter does not owe him 13s., to my knowledge.

CHARLOTTE SHARPE . I have beer from the prosecutor—the prisoner bought it to me—I paid him 5s. on the 2nd of August—5s. on the 9th, and 5s. on the 16th of August—I am quite certain I paid him all these sums.

GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined Nine Month.

(There was another indictment against the prisoner.)

Reference Number: t18420919-2587

2587. WILLIAM FRENCH and WILLIAM SMITH . were indicted for stealing, on the 13th of September, 14 yards of calico, value 8s., the goods of Thomas Mansbridge; to which

SMITH pleaded GUILTY . Aged 32.— Confined Six Months.

THOMAS MANSBRIDGE . I am a linen-draper, and live in Beech-street, Barbican. On the 13th of September I had fourteen yards of calico hanging at my door—the policeman brought it to me—I had seen it safe about an hour before.—I had noticed the prisoners standing at the door.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. You had not seen French before? A. No—there are generally a number of persons passing.

WILLIAM FREEMAN . I am a journeyman butcher, living in Grove-street, Commercial-road, East. I was in Beech-street, on the 13th of September, and saw the two prisoners at the prosecutor's door—I watched them—Smith was pulling down the calico—French was smoking a cigar, and appeared to be talking—when Smith had almost got it down, French went into the shop—Smith put it under his arm, and when French came out Smith beckoned him to go up Golden-lane—I am sure I taw them meet at the corner.

Cross-examined. Q. Was not all that you swore at the Police-office, this? "I Was with Nicholls, and saw Smith take the calico; I went for an officer." A. Yes—they told me that was necessary—I met Nicholls by accident—I am out of a situation—I have had some talk with Nicholls—French was looking at the articles—he caught hold of them, and then went into the shop.

JOHN NICHOLLS . I was coming down Beech-street, about half-past eleven o'clock, on the 13th of September—I saw the prisoners at the prosecutor's door—French went into the shop, and talked to the prosecutor, while Smith took the calico in his arms, and walked over to the corner of Golden-lane, till French came out—then French beckoned with his hand to make Smith go up the lane, and they went up into a public-house—I went with Baker, and took them.

Cross-examined. Q. How did they go in? A. French went in, and Smith flowed him—I have said before that I saw the two prisoners go into the public-house together—I never saw either of them before—they were in conversation before they went into the shop.

CHARLES BAKER . I am a City police-constable. I found the calico

in the possession of Smith, in the parlour of the public-house—French was in the house.

Cross-examined. Q. Was French in company with Smith? A. Not at that time—he was standing at the bar just as I went in.

(French received a good character.)

FRENCH— GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2588

2588. PATRICK NOONAN and JOHN LOCKLAN were indicted for stealing, on the 10th of September, 6 brushes, value 4s. 6d., the goods of John Anthony Winsland.

JOHN ANTHONY WINSLAND . I am an oil and colourman, and lire in Great Pulteney-street. On Saturday evening, the 10th of September, I hung these six brushes out of my shop door—they were safe at seven o'clock—I did not miss them till the policeman brought them, about half-past nine.

WILLIAM RUSSELL (police-constable C 113.) About a quarter-past nine o'clock I saw the prisoners in company in Walker's-court—I followed them to the corner of Great Pulteney-street—I saw Locklan take the brushes down and give them to Noonan—I took him—the other was out of my sight a few minutes, but was brought back by another officer.

Noonan's Defence. I saw some boy running with the brushes; he dropped them, and I picked them up.

Locklan's Defence. I know nothing about it, (Noonan received a good character.)

NOONAN*— GUILTY . Aged 12.


Confined Three Months, the last Week Solitary.

Reference Number: t18420919-2589

2589. WILLIAM SALMON was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of August, 1 pig, price 30s., the property of Henry Nicholls, his master; and THOMAS MAYNARD , for receiving the same, well knowing it to have been stolen; against the Statute, &c.

HENRY NICHOLLS . I am a confectioner, living in Piccadilly. I have a cottage at Heston—I had some pigs there safe on the 26th of August—I missed one at seven o'clock on the 27th—Salmon was my carter—I asked him the reason he was not at home last evening—he made no answer—I said, "You did not sleep in your bed last night"—be said, "When I did come home I found the sty open, and all the pigs in the orchard"—I said, "That accounts for our missing a pig, are you sure you know nothing about this pig?"—he said, "Nothing whatever"—I then went to the station, and told the inspector, and had Salmon taken—I went to the Nag's Head, Hammersmith, and saw Maynard shutting the great gates—went in, and looked about as if I was in want of the water-closet—I perceived some pig-styles, and there saw my pig—Maynard followed me—I said, "You have a pretty pig there, how long have you had it"—he said, "Three or four days"—I then asked if I could see the landlord of the house—he said he was in-doors—I went in-doors and saw the landlady—I came out into the yard, and asked Maynard how much he gave for we pig—he made no answer, but said it was his property—he then said, "If you think it is your pig, pray take it"—I said, "No, I shall not take n at present"—he then said, "I will be d—d if any pig shall stop here, I will turn it into the street"—he then asked if my name was not Nicholls—I said, "It is, and you have got a pig that has been stolen from my place"—he was then in the act of opening the sty to turn the pig into the

street—I said if he did, I would give him in charge—he then came to me, and said my man had left it there, and was going to call for it as he came back.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES. Q. How far is Hammersmith from Heston? A. About seven miles—my carter, in coming to town, would have to pass through Hammersmith—the pig was in a yard at the back of the public-house where there are stables and pig-stys at one side of it—I got into the yard without any one letting me in—I am certain the pig is mine.

WILLIAM PLEDGER . I am servant to Mr. Nicholls—I left the pigs at half-past seven o'clock at night, and next morning, at twenty minutes to six, I missed one—at half-past four I put a sack in the stable—the prisoner bad no business with the sack—I missed the sack—this is it.

JOHN FORD . I am landlord of the Nag's Head, Hammersmith—Maynard was my ostler—I was in the yard about nine o'clock in the evening of the 26th—I did not see any pigs there but my own—there might have been one curled up in the corner of the pig-sty—Salmon stopped at my house that night between twelve and one.

Cross-examined. Q. Was it a public yard, that any one could go into? A. Yes—I have known Maynard about three months—Salmon did not sleep at my house that night, he put up there.

JAMES CLARKE (police-sergeant F 13.) I took Salmon in High-street, Kensington, with Mr. Nicholls's cart—there was this sack in the cart, containing a quantity of pigs' dung, and very wet.

JOHN SAVILLE . I sleep on Mr. Nicholls's premises—I locked the premises up a little before eleven o'clock—Salmon did not come home to sleep that night.

SALMONGUILTY. Aged 21.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Six Months.


Reference Number: t18420919-2590

2590. WILLIAM HARDING was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of August, 1 purse, value 1s., and 3 shillings, the property of Charles Ford, from the person of Eliza Ford.

CHARLES HITCHINGS . I am a cab-driver, and live in Watney-street, Commercial-road—at Half-past eight o'clock on Saturday evening, the 27th of August, I was in the Poultry—I saw the prisoner following the prosecutrix moving up her dress with his left hand, and his right band in her pocket—I stopped my horse and went over the way, I tapped the lady on her shoulder, and told her she was robbed—the prisoner had then hardly taken his hand out of her pocket, and in taking it out he took out a small portion of the handkerchief out in his hand—there was one or two others with him—I turned immediately and took him by the breast—I said, "That was the man"—he made a violent blow at me—I happened to stoop down a little, and he sent my hat half way across the road—I warned him.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. At what rate were you driving? A. Not very fast—I was in the Police for five years—I resigned—there were a good many persons about—nothing was passing between me and the prosecutrix.

ELIZA FORD . I am the wife of Charles Ford, we live in Edward-place, Aldersgate-street. About half-past eight o'clock on this evening I was in the

Poultry, carrying a small parcel—a person brushed twice against me, and the last time somebody said, "All right"—Hitchings touched me on the shoulder and told me I had been robbed—I turned, my handkerchief was half way out of my pocket, and my purse was gone—the prisoner was close behind me—no one was between me and him that I am aware of.

Cross-examined. Q. There were a good many persons round? A. Yes—when I saw the prisoner Hitchings had got hold of him by the breast. (Thomas Powell, carpenter, Edward-street, Hoxton Old Town, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY .** Aged 23.— Transported for Ten Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2591

2591. JAMES YOUNG was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of August, 1 pair of trousers, value 3s.; and 1 watch-case, value 2s.; the goods of John Hurst; also 1 anvil, value 1s. 6d.; 2 vices, value 3d.; 7 watchmaker's tools, value 1l. 6s.; and 1 watch movement, value 8s.; the goods of William Hodsell, his master; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Nine Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2592

2592. THOMAS CHAPMAN was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of August, 2 pence and 3 halfpence, the monies of Thomas Brett, his master; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 13.— Confined Ten Days and Whipped.

Reference Number: t18420919-2593

2593. FREDERICK STEVENS was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of August, 28 pounds weight of iron, value 1s. 6d.; the goods of Robert Read, his master; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 15.— Confined Ten Days and Whipped.

Reference Number: t18420919-2594

2594. WILLIAM TAYLOR was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of September, 2 pewter pots, value 2s. 6d.; the goods of James Williamson ; and that he had been before convicted of felony; to which he pleaded GUILTY . Aged 28.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2595

2595. JOHN SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 11th of September, 24 spoons, value 10l. 12s.; 2 mugs, value 5l.; 6 forks, value 3l.: also 2 forks, value 1l.; and 1 mug, value 2l.; the goods of Francis Henry Ramsbottom, his master; to which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined One Year.

Reference Number: t18420919-2596

2596. MARY WALKER was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of August, 1 shawl, value 6d., the goods of Thomas Price Jones.

JAMES BRUMAGE . I am shopman to Thomas Price Jones, a pawnbroker, in Tothill-street, Westminster. On the 19th of August this shawl hung in the shop for sale—the prisoner was in the shop, and the policeman brought the shawl about half an hour after she left.

Prisoner. I bought it on Saturday night at Mr. Jones's, for 1s. 6d., and on the Friday afterwards I had to pawn it. Witness. I can swear she did not buy it—I put it for sale the same morning—the mark is on it, and we always take the mark off when they are sold.

HENRY ABRAHAM BODMAN . I am shopman to a pawnbroker in Westminster. On the 19th of August the prisoner brought this shawl—I saw the ticket on it, and stopped her with it.


Reference Number: t18420919-2597

2597. ELLEN MORIARTY was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of August, 21bs. 10oz. weight of bacon, value 1s., the goods of John Hunter .

JOHN HUNTER . I live in Broad-street, Bloomsbury. About six o'clock in the evening of the 30th of August the prisoner came to my window, put her arm across, and took this piece of bacon, she then came into the shop, spoke to a woman, and went out—I went and took her, about a hundred yards from the shop, with it—the bacon produced is mine.

GUILTY .** Aged 26.— Transported for Seven Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2598

2598. JOHN LEE and EDWARD BATES were indicted for stealing, on the 28th of August, 1 chisel, value 6d., the goods of Thomas Wheeler; and 1 chisel, value 9d., the goods of William Cubitt.

THOMAS WHEELER . I am a mason. I left my chisel, and Mr. Cubitt's on a shelf in Mr. Cubitt's shed on Saturday evening, the 28th of August—these are them.

RICHARD CLARK OWEN (police-constable G 100.) I stopped the prisoners together on Clerkenwell-green, and found these chisels on Bates—I saw them go to several marine-store shops—I stopped theta, and said I suspected they had something about them—I said to Lee, "What have you to do with them?"—he said, "I picked them up in Mr. Cubitt's yard"—Bates said he took them of Lee—Lee said he gave them to Bates to Sell.

Bates. Lee said he found them, and gave them to me to sell.

THOMAS WHEELER re-examined. The chisels might have been thrown about, and these boys have found them.


Reference Number: t18420919-2599

2599. MATTHEW WATSON was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of September, 1 coat, value 10s., the goods of John Westendale.

CHARLES HILL . I am servant to Chaplin and Home. I was with their cart in Fleet-street on the 6th of September—I saw the prisoner go behind Westendale's coal-wagon, and take a coat off, at the end of Chancery-lane.

WILLIAM SUTHERLAND . I was driving the cart—I followed the prisoner up Chancery-lane, and took him—he said it was not him that took it, if I would let him go he would get it.

JOHN WESTERDALE . I had a coat in my van—I lost it about a quarter to eight o'clock—it has not been found.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Two Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2600

2600. JOHN SOUTHGATE was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of September, 1 handkerchief, value 3s., the goods of George Samuel Dove, from his person.

GEORGE SAMUEL DOVE . I live in Little Distaff-lane. On the 14th of September I was in Smithfield, about twenty minutes after eight o'clock in the morning—I had a handkerchief safe in my pocket—I missed it in about five minutes—this now produced is it.

THOMAS BARBER . I was in Smithfield that morning—I watched the prisoner, and saw him lift the prosecutor's coat tail four or five times—he followed him on to Cloth-fair—he then went to him again, made another

attempt, and got the handkerchief out—he deliberately held it up, shook it, and put it into his own pocket—I told the policeman.

GEORGE RUSSELL (City police-constable, No. 234.) I was told of this—I went to the prisoner, and he threw this handkerchief into a shop.

Prisoner. I hope you will be merciful to me.

GUILTY . † Aged 17.— Confined One Year.

OLD COURT.—Wednesday, September 21st, 1842.

Second Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.

Reference Number: t18420919-2601

2601. WILLIAM HUTCHINS was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Thomas Brock well, on the 13th of September, at St. Botolph-Without, Bishopsgate, and stealing therein, 1 cloak, value 145.; 1 frock, value 9s.; and 1 waistcoat, value 12s.; the goods of John Holland; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Transported for Ten Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2602

2602. EDWARD BENNETT WELLS was indicted for stealing, on the 7th of September, 12dwts. of silver, value 3s., the goods of Thomas Hughes Headland, his master; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 13.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Four Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2603

2603. FRANCIS PRESTON was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of August, 1 scarf, value 7s., the goods of Diggory Northey, his master; to which he pleaded GUILTY . Aged 20.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Four Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2604

2604. WILLIAM WHITE was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of September, 5 tame ducks, price 12s. 6d., the property of Samuel Boalton; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 44.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2605

2605. JOSEPH CANNON was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Price, about two o'clock in the night of the 17th of September, at St. Botolph-Without, Aldgate, with intent to steal, and stealing therein, 1 shift, value 1s.; 1 shirt, value 2s.; and 1 blind, value 1s.; the goods of Lewis Williams.

LEWIS WILLIAMS . I am a labourer at St. Katharine's-dock, and lodge in Little George-street, Minories. I went out at twelve o'clock at night, to night-duty at the Docks, on the 17th of September, and on returning, at half-past two in the morning, I found the door of the house ajar—I had left it quite fast, so that it could not be opened without a latch-key, and as I went up stairs I heard a noise—I knocked at my own room door—my wife let me in—I went into another room, hearing the noise, and saw the prisoner standing in the middle of the room, dressed all but his shoes—I asked who he was, and what business he had there—he said he did not know how he came there—I gave an alarm—the landlord fetched a policeman, who took him—I examined the room, and found a bag, containing a shirt and a shift belonging to my little girl, and a window-blind of mine—the articles now produced are them, and are mine—they had been in the same room before, but loose, not in the bag—the door had been locked witn a latch-key.

ROBERT SUTTON . I am a policeman. I was called, and found the landlady and the prisoner there, and these things were in a bag in the middle of the room.

MARY ANN PRICE . I am the wife of William Price, who rents this house, which is in the parish of St. Botolph. The street door goes with a spring, and closes of itself, and, cannot be opened without a square key—I was awoke before Williams came to the door, and saw the shadow of a light going by at half-past two o'clock—Williams alarmed me, and I found the prisoner in the room.

Prisoner's Defence. I had not the least intention of taking any thing, or I should have gone off before; I had been asleep in the room for three-quaiters of an hour.

LEWIS WILLIAMS . He pretended to be drunk, but in my opinion he was quite sober.

ROBERT SUTTON re-examined. He was quite sober.

GUILTY . Aged 38.— Transported for Ten Years.

Before Mr. Justice Wightman.

Reference Number: t18420919-2606

2606. THOMAS ADDY was indicted for feloniously assaulting Henry Bellamy Webb, on the 20th of August, with intent to rob him.—2nd COUNT, for demanding his money with menaces, with intent to steal the same.

MESSRS. CLARKSON and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.

HENRY BELLAMY WEBB . I live at No. 31, Great Queen-street, Lincoln's Inn-fields, and am in the employ of Baring, Brothers, and Co. On the night of the 20th of August I had been to see a friend in Heroming's-row, and left his house at past one o'clock in the morning, and was proceeding towards home—when I got to St. Martin's-place, the prisoner accosted me—he appeared to have been loitering about there, and as I passed by him he muttered something to me—I did not hear what he said—I passed on without noticing it, and when I got to the end of St. Martin's-place I crossed over obliquely to St. Martin's-Iane, and finding him following close behind me I said to him, "What the devil do you follow me for?"—he made no answer, but turned back to Hemming's-row, and left me—I went on through New-street into Covent-garden, and saw nothing more of him till I got to the piazzas, and half way along the piazzas, between James-street and Evans's hotel, the prisoner came behind me, and said, "If you don't, I will charge you with the police with an unnatural offence"—this was said in more than a whisper—I did not notice any person about him at the time—I still walked on, and my exclamation was, What?"—I was entirely taken by surprise—I said, "What?" and he came up to me, took hold of my arm, and said, "Then I will," and gave me immediately in charge of a policeman who was at the corner of James-street—I had not seen the policeman before I got to the corner of James-street—he said, "I give you in charge," and said to the policeman, "I give this gentleman in charge for an indecent assault," as near as I can remember, for I was excessively confused—the policeman took me to the station, the prisoner going with me—he there made a charge against me—I this was Saturday night—I was locked up thirty-six or thirty-seven hours till Monday morning—there were two intoxicated persons in the cell with me at first—they were bailed—there was two other persons, one

of whom after some hours was removed—I saw those two persons tried here last Sessions—their names were Stringer and Newstead—as soon as could get what they call a messenger at the station, I sent to my landlord and at three o'clock on Sunday morning he came with another respectable person living in Great Queen-street, Leslie, a bookseller—they were refused as bail, I believe, as nobody was allowed to see me—on Monday morning I was taken to the police-court, Bow-street, with other prisoners about ten o'clock—I was put to the bar—the prisoner did not appear—he was called—I waited rather more than an hour—he was called again, and I was discharged—I made unceasing endeavours to find him—I employed a policeman through a solicitor, and offered a reward for his apprehension, and took other means—I had never in my life seen the prisoner before, nor had I that night committed an indecent assault with him or any person.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. I believe you went before the Grand jury last Sessions, and he was not taken before any Magistrate? A. I indicted him here—he was apprehended afterwards—he spoke tone three times that night—I could not hear what he said on the first occasion—I was walking along—he met me, and went past me, saying something as he passed—he came behind me the second time—he then said, "If you don't, I will charge you with an unnatural offence"—that is all he said then—the third time he seized me by the arm, and said, "Then I will"—that was quite quickly after the first time—I had not got above a yard or two, a mere momentum of the body—I could not pull up at the moment—he made a statement at the station, which was taken down.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Although you did not hear what he said the first time, are you sure he addressed himself to you? A. Quite.

THOMAS VENUS (police-constable F 22.) I was on duty in Coventgarden on this Saturday night—the prisoner gave Mr. Webb into custody at the corner of the piazzas and James-street—he said, "I give this gentleman into custody for an indecent assault on me"—I asked him the nature of the charge—he said the gentleman had followed him all the way from Kensington—* * * by St. George's Hospital, and asked him to go into the park with him, and twice after committed the same, going along Piccadilly—I took the prosecutor to the station, and there the prisoner stated the charge, which the inspector took down in writing—I remained there till the prisoner left—he was there about a quarter of an hour—he was perfectly sober—I observed nothing unusual in his manner.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you know him before? A. No.

PETER LOGAN . I was inspector on duty on the night in question—I took this charge—the prisoner is the man who made it—I have the chargesheet here—I took the charge from his mouth—he was in my sight the best part of a quarter of an hour—I observed nothing incoherent in his manner—I questioned him very minutely on the subject—he answered me clearly, and stated that he was a Sheriff's officer's assistant—(read)—"H. B. Webb, No. 31, Great Queen-street, clerk, brought to the station at half-past one o'clock in the morning, charged with indecently assaulting It. Addy, with intent, &c, in Piccadilly; charged by Robert, No. 21, Fetter-lane, Sheriff's officer's assistant. Taken by T. V. 522; not searched, but detained."—He said he had been to Kensington to see some friends, and Mr. Webb accosted him, on his way through Knightsbridge, put his hand * * * * and, while passing the

entrance at Constitution-hill gate, he did so again, and endeavoured to get him inside the park—he desired him to leave him alone, but he still followed him, and, while passing along Piccadilly, again did the same—that he accompanied him from Piccadilly till he reached Covent-garden, where he was given in charge.

MART DIMOND . I carry on the business of a baker, at No. 21, Fetterlane, and have lived there nine years—I do not know the prisoner, he never lived at my house—I know nothing of him.

CHARLES HENRY BAGNAL (police-constable F 31.) I was gaoler on the night in question, at Bow-street, and locked Mr. Webb up, between twelve and one o'clock—I had locked up Newstead and Stringer that night—I saw the prisoner at the station on Saturday night—he staid there, I should think, half-an-hour, before the charge was taken—he was in my sight all that time—there was nothing in his conduct or appearance to lead me to suppose be was not in his right mind.

Cross-examined. Q. I suppose you were not paying particular attention to him? A. Yes, I did, three other parties being behind the bar for a similar thing as he charged Mr. Webb with, I took particular notice of him.

SUSAN MOY . I live at No. 3, Hemming's-row, St. Martin's-lane. On Saturday night, the 20th of August, Mr. Webb was visiting a friend of his at my house—he left, I think, about half-past one o' clock—he had come about nine and remained there all that time.

JOHN ADOLPHUS GEORGE BOWSTEAD . I am one of the clerks of the Police-court, Bow-street; I was not acting when Mr. Webb was brought there. On the 1st of September the prisoner was charged by Mr. Webb with assaulting, with intent to rob him, and made a statement, which I took down—(reads)—"I know nothing of the charge against this gentleman. I have occasionally temporary fits of derangement, and do not know what takes place; occasionally and within the last six weeks these fits have come over me; and when I made the charge I could not have known anything about it. I was told, by a person in Covent-garden, that I had accused a gentleman with committing an indecent assault, and told him I knew nothing about any such charge."

GUILTY of an Assault. Aged 29.— Confined Twelve Months.

Before Mr. Justice Cresswell.

Reference Number: t18420919-2607

2607. HENRY GEE, alias Gould, was indicted for feloniously and knowingly uttering a counterfeit shilling; having been previously convicted of uttering counterfeit coin.

MESSRS. BODKIN and DOANB conducted the Prosecution.

CALEB EDWARD POWELL . I am assistant-solicitor to the Mint—I produce a copy of the record of the conviction of Henry Gee, with another at this Court in July 1841—I have examined it with the original record, it is correct—(read.)

LUKE NIXON (police-constable B 16.) In July last year I had the prisoner in custody, and was present in this Court at his trial—he is the person who was convicted.

JAMES WELLS . I am a tin-plate worker, in Curtain-road, Shoreditch. On the 25th of August the prisoner came to my shop, to ask the price of a saucepan I showed him one—he wanted one made with two handles—I agreed to make him one for 16d.—he wished it to be made stronger, and

said he would give 18d.—I asked him to pay a deposit—he said he would pay 18d., and gave me half-a-crown, saying he wished to pay for it—I gave him 1s.—he said he had got something else to get, and I might as well give him the other 6d.—I did so—he was to send a boy the next morning for the saucepan, with the 6d.—I put the half-crown into at pocket—I am quite sure I had no other half-crown there—about half or three-quarters of an hour after, I went to change it, and found it was bad—I kept it apart from all other money, and gave it to Strutt, the constable—I am quite sure I gave him the same half-crown as I received from the prisoner—the boy has never come for the saucepan.

JOHN STRUTT (police-constable G 219.) On the 27th of August Mr. Webb showed me a bad half-crown—he gave me a description of the person he had it from—on the 2nd of September I went to him again, and he gave me the half-crown, which I produce.

ELIZA COX . I am the wife of Samuel Cox, a chemist, of John's-row, St. Luke's. On the 1st of September the prisoner came to the shop, and asked for a pennyworth of Turner's cerate ointment—I served him—he gave me a shilling—I immediately detected its being bad, and sent it up stairs to my husband, by Coppen, the servant, telling her to ask him for two sixpences, but said nothing of my suspicions—she went up, and my husband came down.

MARY COPPEN . I am servant to Mrs. Cox; she sent me up to master with a shilling—I gave him the same shilling.

SAMUEL Cox . I received a shilling from Coppen—I came down, and saw the prisoner and my wife in the shop—I asked him if he knew it was a bad shilling—he said he did not know it was, it was given to him by his wife—I asked where he lived—he said in some court in Whitecross-street—I said it was very strange he should come so far on so very wet a day for a pennyworth of ointment—he would have to pass many shops—it was nearly half a mile, and it was raining very hard at the time—he said he had been to Sidney-grove, to deliver some work he had done—I gave him in charge, with the shilling, to Nevill.

JAMES NEVILL . I am a policeman. I was called in to Cox's shop, I took the prisoner into custody, and received a shilling from Mr. Cox, which I produce—I searched the prisoner, but found nothing on him.

MR. JOHN FIELD . I am inspector of coin to the Mint. The half-crown and shilling produced are both counterfeit in all respects.

GUILTY . Aged 35.— Transported for Ten Years.

Before Mr. Justice Wightman.

Reference Number: t18420919-2608

2608. SYKES KING was indicted for feloniously assaulting Edmund Sweeney on the 19th of August, and cutting and wounding him on his head, with intent to do him some grievous bodily harm.

MESSRS. BODKIN and CHAMBERS conducted the Prosecution.

EDMUND SWEENEY . I am a policeman. On the 19th of August I belonged to the Metropolitan Police force—about ten o'clock, on the night of that day, I was on duty in Long-acre, and saw a great crowd of persons, and observed a policeman with a person in custody—the crowd were following them down Bow-street, crying out, "Knock him down, don't let him take the prisoner"—I was coming up to the constable's assistance, and received a blow from a stone or brick on the left side of the head—I was then within nine or ten yards of the constable who had the man in custody

—the stone came from the middle of the street—I did not see the person who threw the stone—it struck me with considerable force, and cut my hat right through—I fell down, and received a great bruise on the shoulder, and another on the breast—I fell in consequence of the blow—I got up—I do not know whether by assistance or without, and got to the station in Bow-street—the surgeon saw my wound—I have been laid up from then to the present time—the shoulder is very bad at present—I suffered very much from the wound on the head for a fortnight.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. There was a very considerable crowd pressing forwards? A. Yes.

CHARLES JAMES SMITH . I am a surgeon. I was called in to the Bow-street station on the night in question, between ten and eleven o'clock, to see Sweeney—I examined his head—he had received a contused wound—the skin was divided—it was such an injury as might have been inflicted by a brick or stone—it was twelve or fourteen days before it closed.

Cross-examined. Q. Any blunt instrument might have done it? A. Yes, the edge of a brick would be very likely to do it.

THOMAS WOOLF . I belong to the F division of police. On the 19th Of August, between eleven and saw a mob coming from Lincolin's-innFields towards longs-arce—I went to the station to give information—I was returning back up Bow-street, and met Hibbs, F 85, with a prisoner in his custody, followed by the mob, who were hissing and shouting at the police—the prisoner was pointed out to me by a gentleman—he was hissing and yelling—I took him into custody—he resisted, and struck me a violent blow across the mouth—I succeeded in getting him to the station after some time.

Cross-examined. Q. Where was he pointed out? A. In Bow-street, on the left-hand side going up—I had not been there half a minute—several policemen were lower down, nearer the station—near the station-house door, about half the length of Bow-street from where I was—I took him into custody immediately—he was pointed out by W. Warren—it was after ten o'clock—I do not think it was half-past—the street was not pretty full of police all the evening—there was a reserve at the station—I have, resigned my situation.

WILLIAM WARREN . I am a basket-maker, in Leg-alley, Longacre. I heard a disturbance in the neighbourhood on this night, and went into Bow-street to see what it was—I saw a man in custody of a policeman, and a crowd of persons assembled—I saw Sweeney knocked down by something thrown at him—I was standing by the side of the person who threw it—the prisoner is the man—I said it was a shame and others of the mob began to get round me—I pointed out the prisoner to Woolf—I did not lose sight of him till the policeman came up, not till Woolf took him—he slipped behind one or two men directly after he threw the stone, when I called out it was a shame—I did not lose sight of him recognised him afterwards at the station.

Cross-examined. Q. Did not you go to the station with him? A. I did, but the crowd was so great that they would not let me in—I saw him at the station two hours after, and recognised him—he was next to me when he threw the brick or stone, I cannot say which it was—I saw him throw something heavy and cried out it was a shame, and the people came up—some of the mob wanted to know what odds it was to me—it was not more than a minute or a minute and a half at most after that, that I gave him in

custody—it was about half-past ten o'clock—I was at home and hearing a noise went out—I did not know Woolf or Sweeney before—many people did not come round me, because as soon as I gave him into custody I ran to the station—there was several round me before, and they shoved me about—I had got out of their way when the policeman came up, and was standing opposite them with my face towards them, but sometimes I was shoved about—the policeman came running up the street—I did not see him before—the policeman did not speak to me before I spoke to him—he came up in front of me, and I said, "That is the man that knocked the man down"—I was close to the man—I was touching him, in fact—I was afraid he was going to give me a blow, and I held his hands—I was doing so when the policeman came up, as I had seen him raise up his hand and was afraid of his striking me—that was not half a minute before—I was in front of the crowd the whole time—I had never seen the prisoner before—I do not know what coloured coat or hat he had on, it being dark—I did not stop to take notice, I came up alone.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Did you observe the state of the pavement where the mob was? A. It was in pretty good order.


Before Mr. Justice Cresswell.

Reference Number: t18420919-2609

2609. SYKES KING was again indicted for unlawfully assaulting Thomas Woolf, a constable, in the execution of his duty.

THOMAS WOOLF . On the 19th of August, about ten o'clock at night, I was on duty in Great Queen-street—I saw a crowd coming from Lincoln's Inn-fields—I went from there to Bow-street and gave information, and on my return saw a policeman with a prisoner in custody—the crowd were hissing and yelling at the police—the prisoner was pointed out, and the person who pointed said, "That is the man who knocked the policeman down, I shall give him in charge for it, and go and prefer a charge against him"—I had not seen the man down myself—on the charge being given I took hold of him—he resisted, and struck me a violent blot in the mouth, as soon as I took hold of him, I, with assistance, got him to the station, and detained him on a charge of assaulting me in the execution of my duty.

Cross-examined. Q. How long ago is it that you resigned? A.. Three weeks—no inquiry was made by the Commissioners as to the conduct of the police on this occasion that I am aware of—my conduct was not inquired into that I know of—I received a notice that it would be better to resign, that was the reason I did so—I should not have gone just then if I had not received the notice—I refuse to state why I received the notice—it was represented that I had used considerable brutality to my wife, but I never did—the Commissioners did not examine me nor ask me for an account—they sent my notice to the superintendent—I had been before the Commissioners one day, but they did not inquire of me about it—that is the only act of violence I was ever charged with—I was once punished for being drunk.

MR. CHAMBERS. Q. Were you drunk on the 19th of August? A. I was not.

EDWARD SWEENEY . I was in Bow-street on the night in question and was knocked clown by something thrown at me—there were 400 or 500 people assembled, screaming, and calling out, "Knock down the police."


Before Mr. Justice Cresswell

Reference Number: t18420919-2610

2610. ARTHUR COLEMAN and WILLIAM SMITH were indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Blundell, about the hour of two in the night of the 18th of August, at St. Leonard, Shoreditch, with intent to steal, and stealing therein 4 spoons, value 8s.; 2 half-sovereigns, 40 shillings, 60 sixpences, 60 groats, 42 pence, 96 half-pence, and 24 farthings, his property.

WILLIAM BLUNDELL . I am a green-grocer, and live in East-road. On the 16th of August the prisoner Coleman, who had been in my employment about ten days, left—(he was also with me about nine years ago)—he was in ray employ several times—he never slept in the house, but had access all over it—on the night of the 18th of August I was the last person up—my family consists of myself, wife, and child—I shut up all the doors and windows quite secure when I went to bed—about four o'clock in the morning I was disturbed by the policeman—I got up, and discovered my house had been entered—I found the parlour window had been opened by a bradawl being passed up between the two sashes, and the catch pushed back—the outside shutters, which were rather decayed, were opened also—the window opens into the back-yard which leads into Park-street—I found the bureau in the parlour forced open by an oyster knife which had been in the shop, and was left on the parlour table—between 4l. and 5l. in gold and silver was taken from the bureau, which had a very secure lock—about 8s. in copper was taken from the shop till, and the till was left on a dunghill behind—four silver spoons were taken—I found the bradawl in the room—it had been in a shed in a tool chest the night before—we always kept it there—Coleman knew that, and he used it a few days before—the till and bradawl are in the possession of the police.

EDWARD TOMLINSON . I live in Park-street, East-road, Hoxton, in the parish of St. Leonard, Shoreditch, twelve or fifteen feet from the prosecutor's back-door. On the morning of the 19th of August, from half-past one till half-past four, except for five minutes, I was looking out of the window opposite Blundell's back-yard—I saw Coleman going in and out of the back-yard repeatedly, from half-past two till half-past three—I could not tell what he was about—I knew he was Blundell's servant—I did not have suspicion till two o'clock, or a little after, when I saw him come out with a bundle under his right arm—he went to Smith who was watching up the street—they joined, and came into East-road, into the City-road, and returned in about ten minutes, and took up their station again—Coleman sculked down by the side of the wall, and went in at the yard gate—I saw no more for an hour, or an hour and a half—he was in there all the while, and about half-past three I saw a man come out—Coleman followed close at his heels in a very hurried manner—Smith had gone just before, and peeped in at the door, and said, "It is all right."—I heard that—Coleman and the man went away—Smith remained in the East-road a short time, and I suppose went away—I waited with my shirt on till I saw the policeman come round—I told him to examine the premises—he pushed the door open.

Smith. Q. Can you swear to me? A. I have seen you repeatedly before, at the end of the street, playing with other boys, and to the best of my belief you are the boy—in fact I have no doubt of you.

THOMAS ZINZAN . I am a policeman. On the morning of the 19th of August I was on duty in Park-street, Shoreditch—my attention was

directed by Tomlinson to Mr. Blundell's house—I examined it, and found the window open—I called the prosecutor up—I found the till empty on a dunghill in the yard, and an awl on the window-cill—I had tried the gate at one o'clock—it was perfectly safe then—about half-past two I saw the prisoner Smith at the corner of Park-street, very near the prosecutor's house and spoke to him concerning a rattle springing at another part, which I supposed was to take me away—I went away in consequence of what I heard, and was away till I saw Tomlinson.

Smith. I saw him, ran up to him, and said there was a rattle springing at the corner of East-road, and I ran with him to show him where it was—I stopped there full ten minutes by his desire. Witness. He was standing at the corner of Park-street—I ran towards him, hearing the rattle springing, and he immediately ran away—he went with me about 200 yards towards the place, and then turned back—I saw he was watching me, and had strong suspicions of him—I returned afterwards, and saw him go in a direction for Blundell's house.

LOUISA SALOMON . I live in Francis-street, Old-street-road. I know the prisoners—I know Smith only by being in company with Coleman—I have only seen him in his company—on the 19th of August I saw then together from half-past one to two o'clock in the afternoon—I was talking to a neighbour opposite my place, and saw them together—I asked Coleman what brought him down there—he said he had come down there, as he had given a young man some spoons to put away for him—a little boy was there—Smith said nothing for some time—he then said, "You had better send the boy away, or else we may be found out"—Coleman showed me a handful of silver—I asked how he came by it—he said he had entered the place of Mr. Blundell.

Coleman. I think she knows a good deal more about it than I do.

Smith. Q. Had I any thing about me? A. No.

WILLIAM HORSNELL . I am a policeman. On the 20th of August apprehended Coleman—I told him it was for committing a burglary at his master's, Mr. Blundell's—he said he did not know Mr. Blundell, and did not know any thing about the robbery—I asked what he had done with the money—I neither threatened nor promised him—I cautioned him, told him he need not tell any thing unless he liked, and it might be produced in evidence against him—he said they parted the money, and the other one had the spoons—that was the next thing he said after saying he knew nothing of the robbery.

Coleman. I did not say any thing about the robbery. Witness. I. am quite sure he did—he also named the other person.

Smith's Defence. All I know of this lad is, he used to sell baked potatoes in the City-road; and one day as I was going along, he asked me to come to the play with him; I said I had no money; he said, "I will treat you;" I asked where he got the money; he said his brother had paid him 3l.; he treated me to Sadler's Wells, and on Friday morning I was taken into custody, but I know nothing about it.


SMITH- GUILTY . Aged 18.

Transported for ten years.

Third Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

Reference Number: t18420919-2611

2611. GEORGE SMITHERS, alias King, was indicted for feloniously being at large within Her Majesty's dominions, before the expiration of the period, his natural life, for which he had been ordered to be transported; to which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined Six Months, and Transported for Life,

Reference Number: t18420919-2612

2612. THOMAS MORRIS was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of September, 1 ring, value 5l., the goods of Abraham Wellard; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 14,— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2613

2613. WILLIAM BURGE was indicted for stealing, on the 7th of September, 26 handkerchiefs, value 4l. the goods of Edward George Chorton; to which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Transported for Seven Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2614

2614. WILLIAM PEER and JOHN HUNT were indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of August, 22 printed books, value 6d., and 11 memorandum-books, value 3s.; the goods of Thomas Goode, their master; to which they pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined One Month.

Reference Number: t18420919-2615

2615. JOHN HOLDER was indicted for stealing, on the 2nd of September, 2 1/2 lbs, weight of gun-metal, value 1s. 5d.; and 1 weight, value 1d.; the goods of Charles Botten, his master; to which be pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 31.— Confined Two Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2616

2616. JOHN WATTS was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of September, 1 square, value 2s., the goods of John Wells; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Two Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2617

2617. RICHARD HORSEPOOL was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of September, 2lbs. 10oz. weight of tea, value 5s., the goods of the East and West India Dock Company, and-that he had been before convicted of felony; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 53.— Transported for Seven Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2618

2618. WILLIAM BATT and SARAH BATT were indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of November, 1 counterpane, value 6s.; 2 blankets, value 10s.; 2 sheets, value 6s.; 1 flat-iron, value 1s. 6d.; 1 looking-glass frame, value 27s.; the goods of Charles Stoat.

HANNAH STOAT . I am the wife of Charles Stoat, of Little Warner-street. The prisoners lodged in my house nearly four years—I went to ask for some rent, and Mrs. Batt told me the things were gone—Mr. Batt was not there—I fetched a constable, and she gave him six duplicates—I asked what had become of my looking-glass—she said she had sold it for a little money, she forgot who to—I never went to their room till I asked for the rent—I missed the articles mentioned in the indictment—I have seen some of them since—they owe me 25s.—they paid 5s. a week.

THOMAS TAYLOR . I am a policeman. I took the female prisoner into custody—she gave me six duplicates.

GEORGE CROSS . I am a policeman. I took the man in charge, and told him the charge—he said he knew the things were gone, but he did not take them, it was his wife.

HENRY LAWRENCE . I am assistant to a pawnbroker in Liquorpond-street. I have a counterpane, blanket, and flat-iron pawned by a female—I do not know who.

JOHN WILLEY . I am servant to Mr. Chapman, a pawnbroker, of Turn mill-street. I have a blanket and sheet—the female pawned the sheet—the blanket was pawned in November.

RICHARD FAULKNKR . I have a sheet pawned in the name of Ann Goddard, I cannot say who by.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

William Bait's Defence. I know nothing about it, it has all been done while I was at work four miles off—I never sanctioned it.

(The male prisoner received a good character.)


SARAH BATT— GUILTY of stealing the sheet. Aged 40.— Confined Two Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2619

2619. PETER ELDER was indicted for embezzlement.

JOHN LEWER . I live in Old-street. The prisoner was in my service from the 31st of August to the 5th of September—he came to me in great distress, and said his friends had turned their backs on him—it was pouring of rain—I said, "You can come in and sit down"—I engaged him—I sent him to receive 1s. 4d.—he never came back.

Prisoner, I worked for him for four days, and received no money? Witness. He had food the same as ourselves, and I gave him money for two nights' lodging, and on Saturday my wife made him a bed.

EMMA VANN . I am fifteen years old, and live with my father, in Old-street. On Monday, the 5th of September, the prisoner brought home some boots that the prosecutor said repaired for my sister—he demanded 1s. 4d., which I paid him for Lewer.

SAMUEL HAMEBR (police-constable G 129.) The prisoner was given into my custody on Tuesday morning—be said he was very sorry he had done it, but if I would let him go he would pay it next day.

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined One Month.

Reference Number: t18420919-2620

2620. GEORGE HILL was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of July, 1 trowel, value 2s., the goods of David Scannell.

DAVID SCANNELL . I am a plasterer, and live in Princes-street, Boswell-market. About the 12th of July I missed a trowel from a kitchen of a house in Westborne-terrace where I was at work—the prisoner had been working there, but not at that time.

GEORGE LOVELL FISH . I am assistant to Mr. Loveday, a pawnbroker, of St. Alban's-place, Edgeware-road. This trowel was pawned on the 14th of July—I cannot say whether I took it in, and cannot positively say it was the prisoner—I have the counterpart of the duplicate.

JOSEPH WALKER . I am a policeman. I apprehended the prisoner, and found three duplicates on him, one relating to the trowel—he said be bought it of a plasterer, whom he did not know, for 2s. 6d—before the Magistrate he said he bought it of a Mr. Trail.

Prisoner's Defence. I said I bought a round trowel of a plasterer, but I bought this of Mr. Trail, of Chapel-street, for 2s. 6d.

(Properly produced and sworn to.)

GUILTY . Aged 15.— Confined One Month.

Reference Number: t18420919-2621

2621. ROBERT SHEARING was indicted for wilful and corrupt perjury.

MR. C. JONES conducted the Prosecution.

WILIIAM PERRY . I am Clerk of the Appearances in the Court of Exchequer. I produce an affidavit of Robert Shearing, which was sworn by me in the usual course—I have no recollection of the person who swore it.

WILLIAM JENKINS . I am clerk to Mr. Baron Rolfe, a Judge of the Court of Exchequer. I produce some affidavits filed at the Judge's chambers—I have one of Shearing—it was not sworn by me—I do not know Shearing—I have no doubt this is Lord Abinger's signature to it—it was sworn at Guildhall, on the 25th of July, where Lord Abinger was sitting—I have an affidavit of Eyles, sworn before Mr. Baron Rolfe, in the same cause.

COURT. A. What are Mr. Baron Rolfe's Christian-names? A. Robert Monsey.

GEORGE COLLINS . I am a painter and glazier; I live at Bushy, in Hertfordshire. I had dealings with Mr. Tucker, a glass-merchant—in May last I was not served by any person with any copy of a writ of summons out of the Court of Exchequer at the suit of Tucker—the prisoner never served me with a copy of a writ of summons—I never saw him before—in May I was engaged at a job at Mr. Delahunt'a, about a mile or a mile and a quarter from my house, and was there on the 27th of May—I left my house at five o'clock in the morning, and went there with Denham, my apprentice, and worked there all day—I left not before eight, or near eight—I came back with my apprentice, and went straight home—I was never served with a notice of declaration—no paper of the sort came into my hands at the suit of Tucker—my wife, five children, and an apprentice, live with me—my daughter is about fourteen years old—the others are younger.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. How long have you lived at Bothy? A. Eighteen years—Tucker is a glass-cutter, in Holborn—I owed him about 26l. on the 27th of May—I have not dealt with him since—he sent me more than one lawyer's letter before the 27th of May—I cannot tell how many—everything has been turned out of my house, and I cannot find anything to refer to—I think I received three letters—they were lawyer's letters from a Mr. Eyre—I had dealt with Tucker many years—if he sent for money, I sent what I could.

Q. When did you first hear proceedings had been taken against you? A. The 17th of June was when the officers came to my house—I had been to Mr. Tucker after receiving the lawyer's letters—an execution was put into my house a few days after that—when I saw Tucker he told me he would pay no expenses, but to go to his lawyer and settle it—I went and saw the lawyer—I did not see Tucker after that—I did not pay the money—I went to see Mr. Eyre, for the first time, after the execution was put into my house—I did not after receiving the lawyer's letter, expect to have a writ served on me—I had dealt with him many years—I have received lawyers' letters from other people before, and paid the money, but I could not pay this—I had money owing to me, but could not get it.

MR. JONES. Q. Was it before or after the officers came to your house that you first went to Mr. Tucker and his lawyer? A. After—I had written to Tucker several times after receiving the lawyer's letter, and told him

my circumstances, but did not see him before the officers took away my goods, and did not till then know he had issued a writ against me.

BENJAMIN GOODMAN . I know the defendant very well, I have frequent seen him write, and know his handwriting—I believe the signature, "R Shearing," to this affidavit, to be his handwriting; also this other. (In the first affidavit, dated the 4th of June, the defendant deposed, that on the 27th of May he personally served Collins with a true copy of a writ of summons at the suit of William Henry Tucker; in the second affidavit, on the 21st of June, he deposed, that on the 27th of May he went in company of William Eyles, of Parker-street, Little Queen-street, with his horse and cart to Bushy, and, in company with the said Eyles, applied at the house of Collins, and saw a young female, who said Collins was not at home, but would be about eight or nine o'clock in the evening; and that about a quarter to nine a person was pointed out to them as Collins, who was coming home; that he, in the presence of Eyles, addressed the said person as George Collins, asked if that was his name, and served him with the copy of the writ, which he took, and put into his pocket, saying, "They may do as they like;" that he and Eyles followed the person, and saw him go into Collins's house; that, on the 8th of June, he served Collins with a copy of notice of declaration being filed in the cause, by delivering the same to a female, who he believed to be Collins's wife, at his house; that he asked her if Collins was at home, to which she replied that he was not; upon which he gave her the notice open, desiring her to give it to Collins immediately on his return.)

ELIZA COLLINS . I am the wife of George Collins, and live with him—I never saw the prisoner. In the latter end of May my husband was engaged at Mr. Delahunt's—the prisoner did not, on the 27th of May, or at any time, inquire of me whether my husband was at home—I never saw him—lam sure he never came to the house—my daughter Emma is always at home, and so am F, unless it is on Sunday—he never in my presence inquired of my daughter if my husband was at home, nor did she tell him he would not be at home before eight o'clock in the evening—nobody but my daughter, the apprentice, and myself, are in the habit of receiving letters or papers for my husband—I never received a notice of declaration against my husband at the suit of Tucker, nor any paper at all—I never saw the prisoner in my life before to-day.

Cross-examined. Q. What makes you recollect the 27th of May at all? A. I call it back to mind—when the officers entered the house, they told me that was the day the writ was served, by counting the days back—I made an affidavit, with my husband, before the Judge—I knew my husband was in difficulties—there were not several applications for money—I do not know that I received any letters to give to my husband my May—I will swear that on the 8th of June I did not receive any letter for him—there might or might not be a letter on the 7th of June—I cannot swear there was none on the 6th—I might have received a letter for him on the 9th of May—I am sure I took none in on the 8th, nor any thing of the kind—I always open his letters if he is out, and if he opens them I know the contents—we have no servant—I can swear I never had a letter delivered to me about that time, and never saw the prisoner—I remember being at home on the 8th of June—I am always at home, except on Sunday—my second daughter is about nine years old.

MR. JONES. Q. You and your daughter are always at home? A.

Always—my second daughter and the other children never take letters and papers in—I or my eldest daughter always go to the door—I am quite sure the prisoners never left any paper.

EMMA COLLINS . I am the prosecutor's daughter, and live with him at Bushy My mother or myself always take in letters or papers brought for my father—my little sister and brothers have nothing to do with them—I do not know the prisoner at all—I never saw him at my father' house—he made no inquiry about my father, nor gave me any letters or papers for him.

GEORGE HENRY DENHAM . I am apprentice to Mr. Collins of Bushy, and live in his house. I remember master begning engaged on a job at Mr. Delahunt's—I worked with him there on the 27th of May—I am sure he Was engaged there that day, and had been working there before—this was The last day—I remember leaving leaving master's house with him that morning, About five o'clock, and we went to Mr. Delahunt's—we remained there till between seven and eight that evening—it is about a mile or more from master's—we came straight home together—he was not out of my sight for any time that day, nor as we were coming home—our breakfast was brought to us, and our dinner we took with us—we had what we eat at Mr. Delahunt's—I walked home with master—I did not see any body give him a paper or writ, and can swear they did not, as I was with him all the while—they could not do it without my seeing it, nor when we got to the house—when I got home I had supper, and went to bed—master did the same—I have never seen the prisoner before to-day, and am quite certain he did not serve my master with a write or paper on the evening of the 27th of May, as we came home.

Cross-examined. Q. Is your apprenticeship out? A. No—I cannot say when I was first told I should be wanted a. a witness—I think it was in the course of June I was told I should be wanted here—I was not told what for—master told me I should be wanted—he said there had been a person who said he had served him with a writ on the 27th of May, and he had not—master mentioned the 27th of May, and asked if I remembered that day and said, "We were obliged to finish Delahunf. house that day"—I remembered it perfectly, and have ever since—I did not leave master all that day, nor in the evening, to go any where—we had tea when we went home between eight and nine o'clock—I have made an affidavit about this before.

BENJAMIN GOODMAN re-examined. I live at No. 82, Cornwall-road Lambeth, and am a general agent—I have known the prisoner three or four years, and knew one Hathaway about the same time—Hathaway used to be in the office of Mr. Beetham, No. 1, New-inn, St. Clements's—he practised occasionally as an attorney, but had not a certificate. In June last I received a letter from Hathaway by post—I went next morning, in conesquence of that, to the Sugar Loaf, Bell-yard, I think it was on the 25th of June, it was Saturday—I there saw Hathaway-Sheanng came in a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes with Mr. Ashley, who is in Court now—I have also seen Hathaway here-Shearing said he wished to see me privately—he looked into the parlour—there was a lad cleaning some lamps—he said, "This will not do, we must go into another room"—he looked into the tap-room—there being no person there, he said, "This will do," and said to me, "I have got an affidavit, Goodman, that I want you to swear to; I may as well put 5s. into your pocket as any one else's," and produced a written paper, which was the draft of an affidavit—(he

took it away—I handed it back to him)—I read it three times over—the outline of it was, that I had driven him down in my horse and cart and saw him personally serve Mr. George Collins with a writ of summons at Bushy, in Hertfordshire—it went on to say, that he did, on a particular day, serve Collins, &c.—I asked him if he wished to get me transported, because that was the right way to do it, if I made any such affidavit—he said, "Oh, well, if you won't earn 5s., I must get some one else, for it must be done this particular day," and reading over the affidavit enabled me to carry in my recollection the name of the defendant Collins—I returned him the paper writing"—I then left Hathaway, Ashley, and Shearing drinking—I saw they were very much chopfallen at my refusal.

Q. Who was? A. Ashley—I believe he practises as an attorney occasionally in the name of somebody, not caring who, I believe—I first knew Ashley from being on an Election for East Surrey—I left them and wrote Collins a letter the same day, giving him information of what was to be done and he called on me on Monday—I do not know Eyles and had nothing more than a casual acquaintance with the defendant—this is the letter I wrote to Collins—(looking at it.)

Cross-examined. Q. How often have you seen Collins since the Monday? A. Not more than two or three times, Mr. Garey of Chancery-lane was his attorney—I did not know Garey until I called on him with Collins—we went there together with his wife—I attend to various sorts of business, nettling people's private affairs—when a man is in difficulties he wants an agent—I never put a man in difficulties—I have occasionally served writs—I do not think I have served above ten or twelve in my life—I served one in the cause of Ashley against Somers—I was in the Exchequer before Mr. Baron Parke, to prove the service, and I did prove it—I beg pardon—I did not serve it in that case, I employed a man to do it—I was not called to prove the service—Marks served the writ—if I said I proved it, it was in the hurry of the moment—I have been examined in Court on two civil cases, never in a criminal Court—Ashley and Somers was the last—the jury did not say they would not believe a word I swore—the verdict was the other way—the action was for bill of costs, and the doubt was whether they were not entitled to part of the costs—I did not hear Mr. Baron Parke say it was a question whether they would believe me—they did not say they did not believe what I said—I swear that to the best of my knowledge—I never heard it said, to the best of my recollection—I was in Court when they returned their verdict—I was in the case of Loyson against M'Carthy—I was examined by Mr. Coe as to what evidence I could give—I do not recollect telling him I could prove no partnership existed or anything of the kind, because I knew them to be partners—I have no recollection of calling on Ashby at Searle's-place, Chancery-lane—I do not know such a person—I did not go and say the plaintiff had not kept his word by giving me a guinea a day—I swore that a partnership existed—Layson and all the parties wanted me to swear to the contrary—they offered me 5l. or 10l.—Coe himself offered me 5l.—I never swore a false affidavit in my life—I never had such an offer before—I have good friends, if I want a guinea I can hare it, and have good property, at least my father has—my father is in the deeds now for contempt of the Court of Chancery, in not assigning the deeds of his property, he will ultimately recover the whole—he has been in the

Fleet three years, and ten years in confinement altogether—I swear it is not twenty nor fifteen years—he does not support me—I support myself—I do his business, preparing his petitions and taking him up by habeas and pleading his cause, which I have done many times before the ViceChancellor—I do not receive money from him—he can pay 20s. in the pound, but got involved in various suits—I never said I was a tar-barrel merchant—I said I had bought some casks for one Blenkenhall.

MR. JONES. Q. Have you ever been indicted for perjury or charged with false swearing? A. Never in my life.

(The order of the Court of Exchequer on reading the affidavit, "That the defendant's application to set aside the appearance, &c, in the cause, be refused with costs" was here put in.)

ELIZA COLLINS re-examined. Q. Did any man deliver to you on the 8th of June, or any day after the 27th of May, an open paper, desiring you to give it to your husband on his return? A. No, nor did I promise any man to give a paper to him on his return.

MR. BALLANTINE to GEO. COLLINS. Q. When did you prefer this bill? A. Last sessions—I have not since applied to the Court to set the proceedings against me aside—I have made no affidavit since last Session—I do not know that my attorney has applied to set the proceedings aside.

GUILTY .—Aged 42. Confined One Month, and Transported for Seven Years.

NEW COURT.—Wednesday, September 21st, 1842.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

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2622. JEREMIAH READ and JOSEPH GORDON were indicted for stealing, on the 14th of September, 4 bushels of oats, value 9s.; and 1 sack, value 2s.; the goods of Thomas Blagdon, the master of Read; to which

READ pleaded GUILTY . Aged 28.— Confined Three Months.

GORDON pleaded GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Six Months.

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2623. THOMAS HARVEY and SAMUEL HARVEY were indicted for stealing, on the 31st of August, 40lbs. weight of lead, value 7s., the goods of William Wartnaby, the master of Thomas Harvey.

WILLIAM WARTNABY . I am a builder, living in North-road—I employed Thomas Harvey to do some plumber's work for me at a house in Lower Seymour-street—I sent him two sheets of lead, about a ton weight—I had a foreman, but the lead was in a room which Thomas Harvey had the charge of for his work—Samuel Harvey was employed by him—I suppose this lead to be part of my property.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. I believe you were engaged on a job to be finished within a given time, and Thomas had contracted to complete some works for 10l.? A. Yes—I did not employ Samuel Harvey—Thomas had tools on the premises—he borrowed a mandrel—there was no trap to be put into the pantry—there was no necessity for having a mould to make a bell-trap—I never said I believed he intended to bring the lead back—I do not owe Thomas anything—I may be a pound or two in his debt, I do not think I am.

JAMES PARTRIDGE . I am the prosecutors's forman, and was employed at Lower Seymour-street—Thomas Harvey was there and had charge of the lead to cut it up to the best advantage for his work—in the evening of the 31st August, about six o'clock, I was at work just over the entrance I hallooed "plumber," he did not answer—I hallooed "Plumber," again, he looked up and made no answer—I said, "Stop, I want you"—I ran down but he was out of sight—I turned down Seymour-mews, came up with him, and then Thomas was with him—I followed, and said, "Harvey, you have got something which don't belong to you, I suspect you have got lead"—Thomas said, "No, I have not"—I said, "Come back"—he said. "I have nothing in my bag but some solder and my tools, and what belongs to me"—I brought them back and shot this lead out of the bag—I said, "Are you not ashamed?"—he said he was going to make a bell-trap and a sink or something—he said, "Put it by, and don't say anything more, for God's sake"—I said, "I must tell master"—I begged him to go away and come and see the master in the morning—I had to go home to Finchley I got wet and did not get back next morning until eight o'clock, and my master was there—Thomas came in with a bag of solder on his back—he went to the door which I had the key of—I went to open it and my master told me to get a policeman—Thomas went after him and begged of him not to do it, and said he would settle it—my master insisted on my going, and before I got back he was taken—this is my master's lead.

Cross-examined. Q. When you first saw Thomas, did you not say to him, "What have you got in the bag?" I suspect you have got lead; you took something away last night?" A. Yes—I have known him since May—Samuel Harvey had been working there about six days—these pieces of lead are calculated to make a bell-trap—it requires a mould to make one—there was no mould on the premises.

THOMAS HARVEY . The prosecutor states that there was no such thing as a socket-pipe or bell-trap required—there was an old one in the sink in the kitchen, which he wanted taken away, and a new one put in its place.

WILLIAM WARTNABY re-examined. There was no bell-trap wanted, and this lead was not calculated for a socket-pipe—if it was, he had no right to carry it home.

(The prisoners received good charcters.)

THOMAS HARVEY— GUILTY. Aged 25.—Recommended to mercy.

Confined Six Months.


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2624. THOMAS NEATE was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of August, 3 pewter-pots, value 1s. 6d., the goods of Richard Passingham.

WILLIAM ROLL . I am barman to Richard Passingham, of the Black Horse, Kingsland-road. I was standing at the door, on the 30th of August, and saw the prisoner standing outside the house—I went up to him, and said I thought he had some pots belonging to my uncle—I took his bundle, and found three pint and a half-pint pot in it—they are in master's—the prisoner said, "For God's sake let me go!" or words to that effect.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. How far from the Black Horse was it you saw him? A. Just across the road on the opposite side—the

bundle contained two handkerchiefs, some brown paper, and the pots—one pint-pot was wrapped round with brown paper, and they were all corered with the handkerchief.

RICHARD DAVIES . I was opposite this house—I saw the prisoner and his wife coming along—they stopped nearly opposite where I was sitting, and began doing something with a bundle—a pint-pot fell out of the bundle on to the step—the prisoner picked it up, and walked to the corner of the next street, took his hat off, and put the pot into it—I gave information.

Cross-examined. Q. What are you? A. A logwood-cutter to the dyers—I live in Bath-street—I have no place of business there—I have never been a witness in this kind of case before—I have never given information to publicans.


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2625. BENJAMIN HOWARD and PATRICK HENESSEY were, indicted for stealing, on the 27th of August, 2 skeins of silk, value 10d., the goods of Charles Torond; and 3/4 of a yard of canvas, value 1s. 6d.; 2 drawings, value 8s.; and 1 oz. weight of silk, value 3s., the goods of Anne Jane Torond, from her person; and that Howard had been before couvicted of felony.

ANNE JANE TOROND . I am single, and live at Peckham. On Saturday, the 27th of August, I was going along High-street, Whitechapel, Henessey; bounced out of a court, and snatched a white paper parcel from my hand—it was a roll containing the articles stated in the indictment—I am sure he is the man—I ran up the court after him—then I felt a great rush at my back—I was knocked down—a little boy'came and assisted me, and told me something—I afterwards missed 3s. 9d. from my pocket I did not see more than one man, who took my parcel—a man, who I believe to be Howard, came and told me I had better come to his house, and he would tell me best what to do about it.

Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. When was the first time you saw Howard? A. After I got up—I do not know how I got up—Howard told me I had better not make a noise in that alley, I had better go to his house, and he would tell me what I had better do—other persons came up—there was a crowd about at this time—Henessey was out of sight—Taylor came up, and pushed Howard on one side—at that time I saw Samuel there—he came up to me before I got up, and before Taylor came.

PHILIP SAMUEL . I live with my father, Lewis Samuel, in Church-lane, Whitechapel. I was in Wentworth-street on this day, and saw Henessey running with a white paper parcel rolled up—the prosecutrix was following him, hallooing "Stop thief"—I saw Howard put down his foot, and knock her down—she got up—I gave information, and went and fetched the street-keeper—Howard said she had better go to his house, he would tell her what to do about it.

Cross-examined. Q. You saw Henessey running towards you? A. Yes. Angel-alley is narrow, it is not dark—the houses are pretty high—as he passed me he brushed by me—the prosecutrix was about six yards from Henessey at the time he was running—she and Howard were halfway up Angel-alley, which runs into Wentworth-street—I saw Henessey just as I got into the alley—he went out into Weatworth-street—I did

not stop to call "Stop thief"—there were a dozen people round the prosecutrix—Howard did not lift her up—I will swear that—she got up herself, quite without assistance—I have never told anybody that a young man picked her up—she caught hold of some persons—this is my hand-writing—(looking at his deposition)—I met Taylor coming up Brick-lane just as you turn round out of Went worth-street—I told Taylor where I saw the man running with the parcel—I first came up to the prosecntrix before I went for Taylor—the prosecutrix had several other parcels under her arm.

SAMUEL TAYLOR . I am street-keeper of Whitechapel High-street. I know both the prisoners—I have frequently seen them together for the last five or six weeks—they both use one public-house in Whitechapel, about thirty yards from Angel-alley—neither of them live in the alley—I had seen them together that morning, five minutes before I heard the cry of "Stop thief"—I went up the court and saw the prosecutrix in the middle of a crowd of persons, and Howard had hold of her left arm—just as I came up I heard him say, "Come along with me, and I will try what I can do towards getting the parcel back"—I put him on one side to ask her what was the matter—she seemed almost fainting, and when I tamed round Howard was gone.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you in Whitechapel at this time? A. Yet I was not in Brick-lane—Samuel fetched me—he came from Brick-lane—I had got my laced hat on—Howard was taken on the following Wednesday—the prisoners were both taken together—the prosecutrix was surrounded by a crowd of pickpockets and prostitutes.

WILLIAM AEGENT (police-constable H 126.) I took Howard on the 31st of August in a public-house in Whitechapel—this is Mr. Henry's hand-writing (looking at the deposition of Philip Samuel,)

Read—"A young man lifted her up, and then Howard said lo her 'Come home along with me, I will show you the best way to get it back again;' Taylor, the street keeper came up and shoved him away."

Henessey's Defence. I know nothing about it; I have not been from the country more than six weeks.

JAMES COOPER (police-constable C 627.) I produce a certificate of Howard's former conviction, which I got from Mr. Clark's office—(read)—the prisoner is the person who was convicted.

HOWARD— GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Fourteen Years.

HENESSEY— GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Ten Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2626

2626. ROBERT EDMONSTON and JOSEPH ROBERTS were indicted for stealing, on the 27th of August, 4 sovereigns, the monies of Edmund Phillips, from his person.

MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the Prosecution.

EDMUND PHILLIPS . I am a law-stationer, and live in Bedford-row. On Saturday morning, the 27th of August, I got partially intoxicated—I took a cab and rode about for a considerable time with a female—between four or five in the morning I got to Mr. Gurney's house in Farringdon-street—the cab-man demanded 8s., and I offered him 4s., and called a policeman—I took some sovereigns out of my left hand trousers pocket—the policeman got change for one—the prisoners were there at the time—after paying the cab-man I think I returned four sovereigns to my pocket—I am

sure I Had three sovereigns after that—I remained in the public-house for half an hour—I and the prisoners were standing at the bar talking and drinking, and suddenly Edmonston hit me a tremendous blow in the face, which knocked me down, blackened my eye, and loosened one of my teeth—immediately after I found one of their hands in my pocket—I believe it was Edmonston'i—I called out not to let them go, as they were about making off—a policeman was fetched and they were given into custody—I missed my money—no money was returned to me.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Had you been out all night? A. Yes. I was with some friends till about twelve o'clock at night—I was not particularly sober at twelve o'clock—after twelve I believe I went to a house in the Strand—I do not think it was called the Spotted Dog—it was near the New Church—I am not certain, but I dare say I drank there—most likely I went in with a view of getting drink—I adjonrned from one public-house to another—I had seen no set-to that night with "Sambo"—I very likely said I had seen a fine set-to with young Sambo—I might have gone into a dozen public-houses—I believe there was a young woman with me, I cannot tell—I did not go into a place in Covent-garden, kept by Platt—I do not recollect any thing about going to the Spotted Dog—I must have been riding about from one till half past four—I do not know whether I got out of the cab to go to any public house, nor recollect that I treated the policeman with a glass of rum and water—very, likely I did—I had been to no house with that female, except Gurney's.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Where did you pick the lady up? A. I do not exactly know. I do not remember St. James's coffee-house, Covent-garden, nor anything about raw beef—I did not send the woman out for any—I do not remember talking about Attila and the races—I will not swear whether the prisoners were with me at all the places I Was at.

SAMUEL MARTIN (City police-constable, No. 331.) At half-past four o'clock in the morning of the 27th of August I was called by the cab-man—there was a dispute with him and the prosecutor about the fore—the prosecutor pulled out some sovereigns, gave me one to get change, and returned three or four to his left breeches pocket—the prisoners were there at the time, and had an opportunity of seeing these sovereigns—the female was standing by the cab—after that they went into Gurney's house—about five o clock I was called again to Gurney's house—I found the prosecutor in the act of rising from the floor in the house—the two prisoners were there—J took them—I saw them searched—some Vauxhall bills were found on Edmonston, and 3s. 7 1/2 d. on Roberta—there were no sovereigns found.

WILLIAM EGAN . I live in Farringdon-street. I went into Gurney's on Saturday morning, the 27th of August—I saw the two prisoners, a young woman, and the prosecutor larking one with the other—the prosecutor had the money in his hand—I went out and heard a rush inside coming towards the door—some one said, "You must not go"—I opened the door, went in again, and found the prosecutor on the flat of his back, and Edmonston over him—I saw two sovereigns on the ground—Roberts took them up and put them into his mouth—I said, "Give the roan his money, it is a shame to use him in that way"—Roberts told me to mind my own business, I had nothing to do with it—he attempted to go behind my

back and get out—I collared him and said he should not go out till he was given into custody—the police then came in.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Can you account for those sovereigns not being found? A. I cannot say whether they were or not—I was not searched—I have never been in prison in my life—I told the policeman I saw Roberts put the sovereign into his mouth—he was taken to the station.

MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. The station is some distance from Guney's? A. Yes—I am sure Roberts put the money into his mouth—I have never been charged with dishonesty.

(Charles Griffiths, a shoemaker, of Dunning's-alley; and Rosetta Kirby, gave Edmonston a good character.)



Transported for ten Years.

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2627. SAMUEL TOWNSEND was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of August, 1 pair of trowsers, value 6s.; 2 handkerchiefs, value 4s. 6d.; 1 cap, value 1s.; 1 pair of stockings, value 10d.; and 1 pair of braces, value 6d.; the goods of John Rouse.

JOHN ROUSE . I live at Iver. On the 26th of August I bought these trowsers, handkerchiefs, and other things, of Mr. Gideon, at Uxbridg—I then went to the prisoner's house, on Uxbridge-moor, to sleep that night—I threw the bundle containing these things on the floor—at half-past five o'clock the next morning I got up, and the parcel and handkerchiefs were gone—I asked the prisoner where it was—he said I did not bring them there—these now produced are them.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Had you and Riches and the prisoner and his wife all been drinking? A. We had had some beer, and then as it got late I had some distance to go, and went to the prisoner's to sleep—I had not drank a great deal—I got to the prisoner's about half-past twelve o'clock—Riches is acquainted with the prisoner—we had been drinking at the Sun—I had been drinking at the Bell before I went to buy my clothes—I then went to Mrs. Green's, public-house—I had two pints of beer, some gin and cloves, but no rum and shrub—I had stood abort the street looking for Riches for about an hour—Riches and the prisoner, his wife, a child, and I, slept on one bed, by the side of each other, in the up-stairs room—I did not lie down on the ground floor—my hat was found next morning on the table in the lower room—I was looking about for my bundle the next day—the prisoner did not go about with me—be came up to Cherry's and had two pints of beer—I got the policeman on the Sunday morning—I was a little fresh when I went to the prisoner's—I had some money and some articles which I had bought—they were safe in my tool-basket when I went into the house, I am sure.

LAWRENCE LAZARUS . I sold these articles to the prosecutor.

FRANCIS RICHES . I was in company with the prosecutor—when I went to Townsend's I had the paper parcel in my hand, and put it into my tool basket—I gave it back to the prosecutor.

Cross-examined. Q. Was he sober? A. He was the worse for liquor—he awoke me in the morning, whether he was on the bed or I cannot tell.

RICHARD ROADNIGHT (police-sergeant T 11.) I heard of this—I went to the prisoner's house on Sunday, and saw him standing against the gate,

leading to a field—there was a hay rick in that field, about twelve yards from him—I found all the property in the hay-rick, except one handkerchief, which has not been found—there was some brown paper round it, but it had been torn.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you see the prosecutor on the Saturday? A. Yes—he did not complain to me till the Sunday, and then I went to the prisoner's house and searched it—the gate is a very few yards from his own house—I found the prisoner in the house after I had searched.


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2628. STEPHEN BROAD and JAMES MILLS were indicted for stealing, on the 17th of September, 26 1/2 lbs. weight of cheese, value 10s. 6d. the goods of Thomas Acocks, their master.

JONATHAN TAYLOR . I am warehouseman to Thomas Acocks, a cheesemonger—Broad was his wagoner, and Mills his porter—I ordered Broad to take some articles in his cart, on the 17th of September—I received information, and went to the policeman—I. desired him to watch—I saw the policeman take a bag out of the cart, which had a bulky appearance—I have examined the cheese produced—I believe it to be my master's—I did not authorise Mills to take any cheese that day.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. You took Mills to the Mansionhome as a witness? A. Yes—I paid him his wages the same night.

CHARLES WYATT . About twelve o'clock at noon, I was told to load the cart—I put the things into the cart—I then went down, and walking towards the cart, in the street, I saw Mills give a cheese to Broad in the cart—Broad put it into the cart—I went and told Mr. Taylor that there was a cheese put into the cart.

DAVID GEORGE ACOCKS . I am the son of Thomas Acocks—I did not authorise either of the prisoners to take any cheese that day—our book is here—I followed Broad, accompanied by an officer—when we got to Water-lane I saw the cheese openly in the cart—Broad went on to two or three other places, and then the cheese was not where it had been before—I asked him what he had done with the cheese he had in his cart—he said, "You will find it in the flat or in the cart"—the officer then went up and took out this cheese, which was in a bag—it is my father's cheese—neither of the prisoners had any right to take it.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. He said he had found out there was a mistake about the cheese? A. Yes.

JOHN STOREY (City police-constable, No, 414.) I saw the cheese uncovered at the bottom of the cart.

JOHN VALE (City police-constable, No, 403.) I was at Mr. Acock's when the cart came home—I found the cheese in a bag in a butter-flat, in the bottom of the cart—Broad said it had been given him by Mills in mistake—he said he had first discovered the mistake at the Bull Inn, in Bishopsgate.


Reference Number: t18420919-2629

2629. JOHN AVISON was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of September, 1 engraved brass-plate, value 2s. 6d., the goods of John Henry Bullen, and fixed to a building; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 32.— Confined Three Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2630

2630. MARGARET COVENEY was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of September, 2 seals, value 4s.; 1 brooch, value 1s. 6d.; 1 ornament, value 1s.; 1 pair of snuffers, value 1d.; 1 handkerchief, value 1s.; and 1 needle-case, value 1s.; the goods of William Couch, her master to which she pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 14.— Judgment Respited.

Reference Number: t18420919-2631

2631. WILLIAM JONES was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of September, 1 sheet, value 3s., the goods of Richard Blake; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 48.— Confined Two Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2632

2632. JOHN WALSH was indicted for stealing, on the 7th of September, 1 pair of trowsers, value 9s., the goods of James Fox; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 47.— Confined Three Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2633

2633. FREDERICK MARTIN was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of August, 1 hat, value 8s.; 1 pair of breeches, value 17s.; 1 pair of gaiters, value 3s.; and 1 pair of shoes, value 11s., the goods of Thomas Watts; 1 brush, value 1s. 6d., the goods of James Goldsmith; and 1 handkerchief, value 2s. the goods of Aaron Davies.

MR. DOANE conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS WATTS . I am servant to the Duke of Beaufort, and live at his stables in Apple Tree-yard, St. James's. I went out of town in August, and left behind me a hat, a pair of breeches, a pair of gaiters, and a pair of shoes—I returned on the 24th of August—I then went to the stables, and missed my articles—I afterwards saw my hat in possession of the head borough of Brighton—this is it.

Prisoner. Q. Where did you see this hat? A. At Marlborough-street—I had sent my breeches to a tailor—he sent them to the stable, and I left them there.

JAMES GOLDSMITH . I am in the employ of the Duke of Beaufort, at these stables. I was there on the 15th of August—the prisoner had been a helper at the stables, and he left on the 15tb of August—he gave no reason for going—after he had been gone two or three hours, I missed my brush—this is it—it is the one I lost.

Prisoner. Q. Did you not miss them on the 27th, on the Sunday evening? A. No, I did not state so.

AARON DAVIES . I am servant at the stables. On the 15th of August the prisoner went away without giving any notice—after he was gone I missed the handkerchief produced.

HENRY PATCHIN . I am a head borough of Brighton. I took the prisoner on the 27th of August, at a mews in Kemp-town—he had this hat on his head—I took him to the Town-hall—I then went to the Thurlow Arms, and from the landlord I got a bundle—I showed it to the prisoner, and he said it was his—in it I found this brush and this handkerchief.

Prisoner. You never asked if the property was mine; you said you

received a letter from the Duke of Beaufort's coachman respecting my

having taken property from Apple Tree-yard—I never said it was mine.

GUILTY . Aged 25.— Transported for Seven Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2634

2634. WILLIAM RUSSELL was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of September, 3 pairs of boots, value 7s., the goods of Robert Nicholson.

ROBERT NICHOLSON . I live in Wellington-street, Bayswater, and am a draper. On the 17th of September I missed three pairs of boots, which had been hanging outside my shop—these are them—I had seen them safe an hour before.

WILLIAM DAY . About two o'clock on the 17th of September, I was at my door, and saw the prisoner run past, and chuck this ticket behind two trusses of straw—I then saw him turn round a corner, fifty yards off—he opened his apron, and looked to see if any one was coming after him—I took up the ticket, and went after him—I found these boots inside his shirt next his skin.

Prisoner. I met a man, and bought the boots of him.

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Three Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2635

2685. THOMAS SLAUGHTER was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of September, 56lbs. weight of coals, value 6d., the goods of William Dalton and another.

CHARLES BUTTWANT . I am wharf-clerk to William and John Dalton. The coals which were in the Lee and the Hope barges, on the 5th of September, were my master's—I have seen the coals which are here—I before they are the same as those which were in those barges.

HENRY LUTON . I am inspector of the Thames-police. On the 5th of September, about half-past two o'clock in the morning, I saw the prisoner go alongside the barge Lee, at Westminster, and take two lumps of coal out—I landed and walked round to him.

AUSTIN EDWARD GANN . I am a Thames police-constable. I saw the prisoner take two pieces of coal from the Lee, and while the inspector was gone on shore, I saw the prisoner take two pieces of coal from the Hope—these are them.

Prisoner's Defence. I go about in a morning in the mud, tuck my trowsers up, and get a few coals; I did not get any from Mr. Dalton's that morning, I got them from Mr. Elmore and Mr. Birch.

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined One Month.

Sixth Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.

Reference Number: t18420919-2636

2636. MATTHEW STEVENSON was indicted for embezzling and stealings on the 12th of August, 37l. 17s., and 6 5l. notes, which he received on account of Edward Slater, and another, his masters; and WILLIAM STEVENSON , for feloniously receiving two of the said 5l. notes, well knowing them to have been stolen; against the Statute, &c.—2nd COUNT, for feloniously receiving, harbouring, and maintaining the said Matthew Stevenson.

MR. CHARNOCK conducted the Prosecution.

EDWARD SLATER . I carry on business at Brompton, in partnership with Mr. James Saunders; we are upholsterers and cabinet-makers. Matthew Stevenson had been in our employ about four years—he was occasionally employed to receive money on our account—William Stevenson was in our employ about three years as a French polisher—on the 10th of August, I gave Matthew Stevenson this check now produced for 67l. 17s. 7d.—it is signed by Mr. Holmes, and drawn on the Bloomsbury Branch of

the London and Westminster Bank—I told him to go and get it change for 5l. and 10l. notes—he left our house about two o'clock, and might have returned at four, but he did not—about nine I got very uneasy, and the moment our premises were closed, I sent three men to see if they could find him—I saw him again the next morning at Bow-street—I never received any thing for the cheque.

CHARLES SCHOFIELD . I live in Sebbon-street, Cannonbury, and am a clerk in the Bloomsbury branch of the London and Westminster Bank. I was there on the 10th of August, and this cheque was presented to me, I believe by Matthew Stevenson—he asked for change—I asked how he would have it—he said, "Six 5l. notes, and the rest in gold"—I gave it him in that form—it was between three and four o'clock—the Nos. of the notes were 2, 604, 92, 523, 42, 038, 42, 039, 42, 040, 42, 041, and think it was thirty-seven sovereigns and a half, and the rest in silver and copper.

DAVID JOHN LISTON . I am a publican, and live in Picket-street, Temple-bar. On the evening of the 10th of August, William Stevenson came in between seven and eight o'clock, just between the lights—he and another man stood at my bar, and drank together—William Stevenson asked for change for a 5l. note—I asked him his name and address—he said, "Stevenson, No. 6, Essex-street," which I indorsed on it at the time—this is the note—(looking at No. 92, 523)—I gave him the change—the note has never been out of my possession.

CHARLES SCHOFIELD re-examined. This is one of the notes I paid to Matthew Stevenson.

WILLIAM BATTY . I am a labourer, and live in Milford-lane. I was in company with William Stevenson, on the night of the 10th of August, at Mr. Listen's, in Picket-street—I saw him give a 5l. note to get change—I heard him give the address, No. 6, Essex-street—I knew he lived in the neighbourhood—he got the change, and we parted.

HENRY BARTON . I am a porter, and live in Cromwell-place, Old Boswell-court. On the 10th of August, I was at Mr. Gilbank's, public-home in Pickett-street—I saw the two prisoners drinking with several other persons—I saw Matthew Stevenson take his brother on one side, and give him a 5l. note—he told him to go and get change—William went out—I staid there about two hours after—Matthew staid there about an hour—he went about eight o'clock, I think.

William Stevenson. Q. What time did my brother give it me? A. About half-past seven o'clock—I did not wait to see if you came back—I swear that you did not come back—I was not asked before the Magistrate if it was a 5l. note—you could not have come back into the house without my seeing you—there are two doors, but both are in front—I can state that no one went into the bottle department—I was sitting on the top of a cask.

COURT. Q. When Matthew gave the note to William, did he say any thing? A. He told him to go and get change—I saw what the note was—I could see the "Five" on it.

LEWIS HART . I am a clothes salesman, and live in Holywell-street, Strand. On the evening of the 10th of August, two persons, who I believe were the prisoners, came to my shop, but I could not positively swear to them—they purchased a suit of clothes, a hat, and a black silk handkerchief, for which they paid 3l. 6s.—William Stevenson first tendered

me a 5l. note—I was taking it up to look at it, and Matthew Stevenson said, "Do you doubt it? if you do I will give you change"—he did so, and then William took away the clothes with him—I think one of them said they were going to Cheltenham.

William Stevenson. Q. Will you swear I am the person that bought the clothes? A. I believe you are; I will not swear it positively.

Matthew Stevenson. It was me that bought the clothes, and paid you for them. Witness. No, it was not—I most positively swear you are not the person—I believe William bought them and carried them away.

JOHN BELL . I am a newsman, and live in Lee's-buildings, Chancery-lane. On the 10th of August I saw William Stevenson—he was dressed in a new suit of clothes—he asked me if I would have something to drink—I said I did not care much about it—he had some half-and-half, and treated a great many persons, at Mr. Wyatt's, in Clement's-lane—he palled oat some silver and gold from his pocket.

GEORGE GATER (police-constable F 29.) On the night of the 10th of August I took Matthew Stevenson into custody for drunkenness, about nine o'clock, in Pickett-street, Strand—I found on him 45l. 5s. 11 3/4 d., which I produce—it consists of twenty-seven sovereigns, three half-sovereigns, 1l. 15s. 11 3/4 d. in silver and copper, and three 5l. notes—I asked if it was his own—he said yes—after he had been locked up a short time he said it was. his master's money, and he had been to the Bloomsbury Branch and got a cheque cashed—I took William Stevenson twelve days after—I ascertained that he lived at his father's, in Milford-lane—I went to No. 6, Essex-street—he did not live there.

CHARLES SCHOFIELD . These three notes, found on Matthew Stevenson, are three which I paid him—they are Nos. 42038, 42939, and 42040.

Matthew Stevensons Defence. After I had received this money I went to see my brother; I asked him to change a 5l. note; he went out and brought me the change, but he would not have done it if he had known it was not my own.

William Stevenson's Defence. I was in the public-house, and my brother asked me to go and change the note; he said it was his own. (William Stevenson received a good character.)


Confined Six Months.

WILLIAM STEVENSON— GUILTY. Aged 26.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury and Prosecutor.— Confined FOUT Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2637

2637. JOSEPH CORDWELL was indicted for stealing, on the 9th of September, 1 half-crown, and 3 shillings, the monies of Thomas Cox.

MARY COX I am the wife of Thomas Cox, a grocer and cheesemonger, at Kensington. In the forenoon of the 9th of September, I was in our back-parlour behind the shop—I heard the sound of the till in the shop—I ran towards it, and saw the prisoner had got the till on the counter, and was taking money out—I know there was a half-crown and some shillings in it—I had seen them about twenty minutes before, and no other person had been there.

ANDREW BENHALL . I live at the Swan, at Kensington. On the 9th of September I was passing the prosecutor's shop, which is in Peel-place—I saw the prisoner run from the shop up Hedge-terrace—he was caught by Mr. Summersall.

WILLIAM SUMMERSALL . I live at Kensington. On the 9th of September I was standing at the bottom of Hedge-terrace, and the prisoner was pointed out to me—I went towards him—he ran at me, and I collared him.

JOSEPH LUCAS . I am a policeman. The prisoner was given to me, between ten and eleven o'clock in the day, on the 9th of September, by Mr. Summersall—I found a half-crown and three shillings in silver on him.

Prisoner's Defence. I was running to tell a woman to come to my sister-in-law.

GUILTY . † Aged 20.— Confined Twelve Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2638

2638. MICHAEL HUGHES was indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of July, 2 shawls, value 14s., the goods of Louis Aime Boura, his master.

LOUIS AIME BOURA . I am a dyer, and live in Rathbone-place. The prisoner was in my service for about six weeks—I lost several articles while he was with me—I went to a pawnbroker's, in Tottenham-court-road, and saw two shawls which were entrusted to me by a customer to clean—they had been in my shop from the 20th to the 23rd of July, to the best of my knowledge—these now produced are them.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES. Q. How do you know them? A. By the description, and the boy did not deny it—I have the description of them copied from my book—the policeman saw it—I know this one by this second border—there are very few made in this manner—I have seen one like it—I swear this is not the other one, and that the other one is not this—I cannot remember that I have ever given my name Aime Louis Boura—it may be so—sometimes I have done it without remembering it—I call myself both names when it is required, but generally I do not give any name but Aime—I do not change my names about—I have a person of the name of Jacko in my employ—f know the Sheriffs Court, and I think I have seen you—I know Westminster-hall, and I know Mr. Rigge, my attorney—Louis is my second Christian name—I never mind what they put first—the prisoner was in my service from the 5th of June to the 23rd of July—I think he is about fourteen years old—I carry on an extensive business, very respectable—I had a good character with the prisoner—James Murphy has been in my employ since last Saturday week—I was at the Police-office on the Monday after Murphy came into my service—I received information from Murphy respecting the prisoner on the Sunday, not on the Saturday, I will swear.

Q. Upon your oath, did you have no communication with Murphy about the prisoner on the Friday before you took him? A. No, sir, I did not—I did not take Murphy into my service in consequence of a communication I had with him about the prisoner—Murphy is still in my employ—I have not found out that he has robbed me—I do not consider that he has—I do not know that Murphy pawned some of the things I charge the prisoner with—he told me not—the pawnbroker told me one was pawned in the name of Murphy, but the boy says it was in the name of Morton—Murphy is about fifteen years old—I have not preferred this charge against the prisoner in consequence of something Murphy told me—I would pursue Murphy just in the same manner as I have the prisoner—I charged

the prisoner with robbing me in consequence of something Murphy told me.

COURT. You have two names? A. Yes, I have never been used to write only Aime—it is the name I have always gone by—it is my Christian name.

JAMES GOLDER . I am shopman to Mr. Frankling, a pawnbroker, in Tottenham-court-road. I produce three shawls, two of which were pawned by the prisoner, in the name of Hughes—I know him and his mother—one was pawned on 23rd of July, and the other on the 30th—no one was with him.

Cross-examined. Q. You knew the prisoner so well you cannot be mistaken in him? A. Yes, I knew him very well for three or four years by the name he gave, and could have found him at any time—I know Murphy—he pawned one of those shawls about the 16th of July, in his own name originally, and he came afterwards, and paid the interest on it, and repledged it in the name of Mrs. Lewis—I never knew any thing against the prisoner till this time.

JAMES BLOOM . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner into custody—I told him it was for stealing two shawls and a waistcoat—after I had him in custody he told me the waistcoat and one of the shawls were pawned by Murphy—he did not say any thing about the two shawls in question.

JAMES MURPHY (examined by MR. JONES.) I am an errand-boy—I take things from one place to another when I am told, but not when I am not told—I never pawned any shawls at Mr. Frankling's—I know his shop—I never pawned any thing at his shop in my life—I know Mr. Golder—I have seen him at Mr. Frankling's shop as I have gone by—I have seen him behind the counter when I have looked in at the window—I never was in the shop to pawn any thing, but I was there in July to look at a shawl with godmother, and she pawned it after she had looked at it—it was in pledge, and I bought the duplicate of it of the prisoner—I looked at the shawl after I produced the duplicate, and my godmother repawned it in her own name—I swear I did not go, and pawn it there before I went with my godmother—I have been a week in Mr. Boura's service—I was before that in Mr. Winter's service, but he had not enough for me to do—he was sorry to part with me—he gave me a week and two days' warning merely because he had nothing to do—he gave me a very good character—I was in St. Patrick's School four or five years ago for about five years—I left it because I went out to work—I did not take any of the Boys' books—I had known the prisoner about a year—I never gave him any shawl to pawn—On the Saturday I went to the prosecuter's—I there heard a lady speaking about a shawl that was missing in the after noon, and on Sunday I told the shopwoman, and she told my master—I did not tell Mr. Boura that I pawned the shawl—I said I bought it of the prisoner, which I did—I had not been guilty of any thing—I gave the duplicate to my godmother—I did not know it was stolen—I cannot say whether that duplicate was in my own name—there are many person's of my name—I gave up the duplicate to my godmother—she lives in Philiip's-gardens, Tottenham-court-road, with my mother, and I live with her—I have no father—I was out of place when I bought this duplicate, but was going to a place on the Monday morning.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY. Aged 15.-Recommended to mercy.— Confined One Month.

Reference Number: t18420919-2639

2639. CHARLES HARRIS was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of August, 13 shillings, and 1 sixpence, the monies of James Jackson, from his person.

JAMES JACKSON . I live in Pall-mall. On the 31st of August, about three o'clock in the afternoon, I was walking in the Strand, near to Hungerford-market—I felt some one put his hand into my pocket—I turned and saw the prisoner close behind me, almost touching me—I put my hand into my pocket, and found 13s. 6d. in loose silver, which I had placed there about ten minutes or a quarter of an hour before, in a bit of paper, had been abstracted—the prisoner passed me hastily, and walked very fast—I quickened my pace to overtake him—he turned into Hungerford-street, and began to run—I ran after him, calling, "Stop thief"—he turned into the Arcade, and was secured by the constable—I had not lost sight of him, except for a moment, when he turned the corner—I observed he struggled when the officer seized him—another person came to assist the officer, and I saw him take from the prisoner some silver in a paper—he was then taken to the station, and the officer there showed me this paper, which I ca identify as part of the paper in which my money was.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Were there three of you at him all at once? A. I did not seize him—I was about a yard from the officer—I know this bit of paper, as it is part of a Belfast paper, and I had read it before.

GEORGE WEBB . I am constable of Hungerford-market. On the afternoon of the 31st of August I was in the Arcade—I saw the prosecutor pursuing the prisoner—he was running as fast as he could—I stopped him, and he struggled violently to get away—I observed something in his hand which he tried to conceal—I tried to get it, but could not—Mr. Cooper came up, and took this paper from him, which he gave to me.

ALEXANDER COOPER . I live in Northumberland-street, and am a baker. I was passing the Arcade, and saw the prisoner and the constable struggling—I took hold of the prisoner, and took this paper and money from his right hand—I handed it to the constable.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you and Webb between the prisoner and Mr. Jackson? A. I saw Mr. Webb catch the prisoner—Mr. Jackson was standing aside.

GUILTY .** Aged 18.— Transported for Ten Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2640

2640. SOPHIA RICE was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of August, 1 ring, value 14s.; and 2 half-sovereigns; the property of Francis Crawford; to which she pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2641

2641. LETITIA OLIVER was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of August, 1 shirt, value 3s.; 1 shift, value 1s. 6d.; 3 pinafores, value 4s. 6d.; 6 pinafores, value 3s.; 2 pillow-cases, value 1s.; and 1 flat-iron, value 8d.; the goods of George Williams; to which she pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 34.— Confined Twelve Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2642

2642. JOHN HOARE was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of September, 1 handkerchief, value 1s. 6d.; and 12 packets of court plaister, value 3s. 6d.; the goods of George Dabbs; and that he had been before convicted of felony.

GEORGE DABBS . I deal in druggist's sundries, and live in Mason-street,

Old Kent-road. On the 3rd of September I had a horse and cart standing at the Greyhound inn at Staines—I had a silk handkerchief in the chaise, tied up, with some vegetables in it, and some court plaister in a box in the back of the chaise—I left them in the chaise-house while I went to do business in the town, and when I was going to start I missed the handkerchief—the beans and cucumbers were thrown over the other things—I know they had been safe twenty minutes before—I had some suspicion, and followed the prisoner—I overtook him a short distance from Ashford-gate, on the Kingston-road—just before I overtook him I saw him throw the handkerchief away—I got out of my chaise, collared him, and said he was ray prisoner—my brother picked up the handkerchief, and this plaster was in it—this is the handkerchief—it is mine—I took back the prisoner to the Greyhound, and gave him to the police.

Prisoner. He had been drinking there all day. Witness. I did not get there till three o'clock, and left about five.

CHARLES BUTLER . I am a policeman. On Saturday evening, the 3rd of September, I saw the prosecutor, with the prisoner in custody—I took him, and received the handkerchief and plaister—he said at the station that be found the handkerchief.

Prisoner's Defence. When I went out of the door I bid the prosecutor good afternoon; he said, "Don't go yet, stop, and have another game;" he missed a handkerchief; I told him his brother had got it, and his brother gave it him; I then went out, and found the court plaister and the handkerchief on the ground.

THOMAS PHILLIPS . I am a policeman. I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction, which I got from Mr. Clark's office—(read)—the prisoner is the person.

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Transported for Seven Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2643

2643. STEPHEN SHAW was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of September, 1 medal, value 1d.; 1 token, value 1d.; 6 pence, and 8 half-pence; the monies of James Griffiths.

JAMES GRIFFITHS . I keep a marine-store shop, in High-street, Poplar. At three o'clock, on he 13th of September, I was called from my yard to my shop—I saw the prisoner and another lad in the shop—I found my halfpence were gone—I said to the prisoner, "You have taken some half-pence out of this measure," and asked if he had got any halfpence about him—he said, "Sixpennyworth"—I asked him to let me look at them—he took six penny pieces out of his pocket, and showed them to me—I knew this brass medal, which was amongst them—it looks like a penny-piece—I told him it was mine—he put it into his pocket, and ran away.

GEORGE CARTER . I live in Sophia-street, Poplar. In the afternoon of the 13th of September I saw the prisoner running by the West India Dock—I pursued, and saw him chuck some halfpence over the palings—I secured him—I saw Meadows get over the pales.

PHILIP MEADOWS . I live in High-street Poplar. I saw the prisoner running—he took something out of his pocket, and threw it over the palings—I got over, and found a shilling's worth of copper—this brass piece was amongst them.

WILLIAM SLADE . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner—he said he knew nothing about it—I found on him three farthings.

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined One Month.

OLD COURT.—Thursday, September 22nd, 1842.

Before Mr. Justice Wightman.

Reference Number: t18420919-2644

2644. JOHN BURT was indicted for that he, being employed under the Post Office, feloniously did destroy 5 post letters, the goods of Her Majesty's Post Master General; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 13.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Six Days Solitary.

Reference Number: t18420919-2645

2645. ROBERT BROWN was indicted for stealing, on the 31gt of August, 1 sovereign, 1 half-crown, and 1 shilling, the monies of Her Majesty's Postmaster-General.—2nd COUNT, stating it to be the monies of John Playle.—3rd COUNT, stating the sovereign to be the property of the Right Honourable William Baron Lowther, and the half-crown and shilling the property of John Playle.—4th COUNT, stating it to be the monies of William Blott.

MESSRS. SHEPHERD and ADOLPHUS conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN PLAYLE . I am assistant inspector of the General Post letter carriers. The prisoner was a General Post letter carrier for the Temple division—on the 30th of August, in consequence of suspicion, I obtained the sanction of Mr. Bower, clerk to Mr. Thesiger, to have a letter directed to him, containing coins—I made up a letter, containing a sovereign, half-a-crown, and shilling, directed it to "Mr. Bower, F. Thesiger, Esq., Temple, London"—I marked the coins myself with a broken-pointed penknife, and am quite able to swear to the marks again—I showed the letter to my superior, Mr. Kelly, and showed him the marks I had made on the money—I put a wafer in the letter, and handed it to Mr. Kelly, who affixed a stamp to the wafer—I afterwards had it, kept it in my possession till the following morning, when I gave it to Mr. Clare—Mr. Boyden, another assistant inspector, was with him—I afterwards went to the Temple, and saw Mr. Bower—I got back to the post-office about twelve o'clock, and saw the prisoner about one—he was brought to the office by Mr. Boyden in custody, taken into Mr. Kelly's room, and questioned—Mr. Peacock was present—he was told a letter had been missed on his walk that morning, and was asked to account for that letter—he said he had delivered all the letters he took out that morning for delivery—he was afterwards searched by Tyrrell, the officer, who took out of his pocket some silver—I saw among it a half-crown piece, which I immediately recognised as the one I put into the letter—he said he had brought it from home that morning—I am quite positive the one now produced is it, by a slight mark at the termination of the hair at the nape of the neck—it was made by pressing the knife on it, and moving the coin round—it is almost a circular hole—I made a similar mark on the sovereign and shilling, all in the same place—a shilling and sovereign were afterwards produced to me, which I knew again by the same mark.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. At what time does the prisoner come on duty of a morning? A. At six o'clock he arrives at the office—there is a man named Haseltine, who supplies the clerks with coffee, &c., of a morning—the prisoner was in the habit of assisting that person, but occasionally came to his desk—there was no fixed time for his coming for his letters—fifty or sixty clerks partake of the coffee—I never saw the letter

in qnestion in his hand—the sovereign I enclosed was given to me by Mr. Blott, the superintending president's clerk—I do not know where he got it—the half-crown and shilling were my own—the clerks who have coffee sometimes pay for it at the moment, sometimes at another time.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Who did they pay, Haseltine or the prisoner? A. I am not aware.

WILLIS CLARE . I am a sub-sorter in the Post-office. On Monday, the 31st of August, about a quarter to seven o'clock, I received a letter from Mr. Playle—I felt that it contained money—it was directed, "Mr. Bower F. Thesiger, Esq., Temp le"—I placed it with the letters which were sorted for the Temple carrier to take out—I saw Charles Page take the letter up with others from the inland office, where I was, and take it towards the letter carriers' office—the letter was in the prisoner's delivery, and in the regular course of the office would come into his hands—he left the office about half-past eight o'clock that morning I think—he was on duty that morning.

Cross-examined. Q. You never saw it in his hand? A. I did not—I cannot say who was in the carriers' office—it is common to a great many carriers—some of the carriers take coffee of Haseltine—the men are there to get it at five o'clock in the morning.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. What time does Haseltine go away? A. The time to clear their coffee away is about seven o'clock.

CHARLES' PAGE . I am a letter carrier in the General Post-office. I was on duty on the 31st of August, and carried the letters that day from the inland office to the carriers' office—I carried the whole of the letters for the Temple district—I carried them seven or eight times during the morning—the earliest time was about a quarter before seven o'clock, and till they were all sorted—I carried all the letters that were there—I placed the Temple letters in the Temple seat, which was the prisoner's

Cross-examined. Q. How many persons were in the office at the time you placed the letters on the prisoner's seat? A. Several—they were all letter carriers—there are a great many—I cannot say whether the prisoner was there, I go so often to the place—I saw him there that morning, but whether he was there when I put the letters on the seat I cannot say.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. How many carriers were there, do you think? A. In that division there were fourteen or fifteen—the Temple letters are sorted there, according to the prisoner's walk—I saw the prisoner there between the time I first placed letters there, and finishing.

JANE BLUNDELL . I live at Mr. Thesiger's chambers in the Temple. I remember the postman coming to the door on the 31st of August—he delivered two letters to me—there was no money in them—they were for Mr. Bower—I gave them to him—I do not know who the postman was.

WILLIAM GEORGE BOWER . I am clerk to Mr. Thesiger. On the morning of the 31st of August, I received only two letters—there was no money in either of them.

THOMAS BOYDEN . I am assistant inspector of letter carriers at the Post-office—the prisoner was the head letter carrier of the Temple department—after delivering his letters his duty is to go to Mr. White, the general post receiver in Devereaux-court, and sign a card declaring the time he finishes his delivery—on Wednesday, the 31st of August, at twelve

o'clock, I went to Mr. White's—I did not see the prisoner there—I went in search of him to his house in Regent-terrace, Lambeth—when he came home I told him he was required to attend the office—I got a cab and brought him to the office—I asked him if he had got his card signed by White that morning—he said, he had unfortunately forgot to get it signed—I know the Essex Head, at the corner of Devereaux-court—it is nearly opposite Mr. White's.

Cross-examined. Q. Is this the first time you have said, he said he had forgot to get his card signed? A. I believe it is—I am certain he said so.

ROBERT TYRRELL . I am a constable of the Post-office. On the 31st of August, the prisoner was brought there a little after one o'clock—Mr. Peacock, junior, was there, and told him a letter directed to Mr. Bower at Mr. Thesiger's, Temple, containing cash, had not been delivered—the prisoner replied, that he delivered two small letters that morning, one with something heavy in it, a substance like a brooch he thought—I searched him, and found in his trowsers' pocket, half-a-crown, two shillings, two halfpence, and a sixpence—I have produced the half-crown—I can a tioned him as to what he might say, and asked where he got the half-crown from—he said, he brought it from home, with a sovereign, and a 4d. piece, and some silver—Mr. Playle took the half-crown up, and said in the prisoner's hearing, it was the half-crown he had enclosed in the letter with a sovereign and shilling—the prisoner said it was impossible, because it was the half-crown he had brought from home that morning—I then said, "Have you changed, or paid away any sovereign?"—he said no, except the one he had paid into the Treasury that morning—I then took him into custody—I went that evening to the Essex Head, kept by Mrs. Ing, who was there with her husband—I received from Mrs. Ing two shillings—I saw them reached from a shelf at the back of the bar, under a glass—Mr. Ing marked, and gave them to me—I have a sovereign which I received from Mr. Clark, of the Cleveland Arms, Montague-street—I received a small piece of paper with writing on it from Mr. Oliver. LUCY ING. My husband keeps the Essex Head, Devereaux-court, very near Mr. White's house—on Wednesday the 31st of August, the prisoner came to our house, and had a glass of gin which came to 2d.—I knew him before—there is a St. Ledger club at our house, and he is a member of it—he left two shillings with me on account of the club—I put them on a shelf in the bar, not mixing them with my business money, and pot a glass over them, as the Secretary was not there to enter them—I afterwards moved them to an upper shelf—the officer came in about nine or ten o'clock, and I gave them to him—my husband was present and marked them when I took them out.

Cross-examined. Q. At what time did you receive them? A. A little after ten o'clock in the morning—I was in and out of the bar during the day—I removed the shillings to the upper shelf, about two hours after—I put them there, and did not see them again till I gave them to the officer—a good many people came to the house, but nobody was in the bar but Mr. Ing and myself—my daughter was in the country—the servant does not come into the bar except in a morning to clean it up.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Did you take the shillings from the glass to put them on the upper shelf? A. Yes—I found them there just as I had placed them—nobody would go to that shelf in the course of business.

Ms. PLAYLE re-examined. (Looking at the money produced by Tyrell)—this is the sovereign I marked, and put in the letter, and the shilling also—I have no doubt of them whatever.

Cross-examined. Q. Who did you receive the money from? A. The sovereign from Mr. Blott—the half-crown was my own, and the shilling—I identify the coins by the mark, and I made a memorandum at the time of the date of the coinage—I have marked sovereigns in this way before, but not half-crowns or shillings, nor has anybody else, to my knowledge.

MR. SHEPHERD. Q. Did Kelly see you put them into the letters? A. He looked at the marks just as I put them in.

FREDERICK KELLY . I am an inspector of letter-carriers. On the 30th of August, Playle showed me the marks he put on the sovereign, half-crown, and shilling—the marks on the three coins produced I have no doubt are the marks I saw that day—the letter was directed to Mr. Bower, F. Thesiger, Esq., Temple, London—I bad directed Playle to make those marks in the coin.

CHARLES CLARK . I keep the Cleveland Arms, Montague-street, Portmansquare. On the 1st of September, I received three sovereigns from Mr. Findley—I changed one, and took the other two into the country with me the same day, and remained there one night—Mr. Giblet went with me—we slept in the same room in the country, and previous to going to bed I placed them on the dressing-table—I missed them the same night, and next morning Mr. Giblet gave them to me—I came to town in the evening, and delivered one of the two sovereigns to Tyrrell which I had received from Giblet.

JOHN GIBLET . I am a tailor, and live in Thomas-street, Oxford-street. On the evening of the 31st of August I wept out of town with Mr. Clark—I took one sovereign with me, and some silver, in my trowsers' pocket—I had no other sovereign—I took two off the table when Mr. Clark laid them down, and I put them into my waistcoat pocket, kept them there all night, and gave them to Mr. Clark next morning—I took them up merely for a joke, to alarm him.

EDWARD FINDLEY . I keep the Manchester Arms, Baker-street. On the 1st of September Mr. Clark called at my house—I lent him three sovereigns, which I took out of my cash-box.

MARIA LOUISA TAYLOR . I am Mr. Findley's niece. On Wednesday, the 31st of August, I remember a person coming to my uncle's house with a sovereign, to pay 15s.—I gave him five shillings out, and put the sovereign into the cash-box—the person who brought the sovereign wrote on the piece of paper now produced, "I do not know the person"—I wrapped the 15s. up in the paper, and put it into the cash-box—the paper was given to Mr. Oliver, the clerk of the dub, with the money.

GRANVILLE OLIVER . I am clerk to a loan society at the Manchester Arms. On the 31st of August I received from Miss Taylor a paper, containing five shillings and a half-sovereign, and the note produced—I gave the note to Tyrrell the following evening.

WILLIAM ATTWATER . I am a general postman and assistant to the prisoner, in the Temple district. I have often seen him write—this paper is his writing, I have not the least doubt—(read)—"Mr. B., Unforeseen circumstances render it impossible for me to pay more this week, but next week I am in hopes to clear it all up. ROBERT BROWN. For George pullman. 15s. 2d."

JOSEPH BARKER . I am a letter-carrier in the General Post-office. I know the prisoner, and his handwriting—I have frequently seen him write—the whole of this is his handwriting—I know Pullman is a member of the same club—the prisoner told me he was bound for Pullman to a loan society for 5l., and said he was to pay 10s. a week till it was all paid; be was to do it for Pullman, who was in Oxford at the time.

ING. I keep the Essex Head. My wife took the two shillings

from the shelf, and gave them to the officer, not in my presence.

WILLIS CLARE . Mr. Blott's Christian name is William.

Cross-examined. Q. Is he in Court? A. He was just now—lord Lowther's name is William Baron Lowther.


Aged 44.— Confined Twelve Months.

Before Mr. Justice Cresswell.

Reference Number: t18420919-2646

2646. EDWARD LEADER was indicted for a rape.

GUILTY .— Transported for Life.

Fourth Jury, before Mr. Recorder,

Reference Number: t18420919-2647

2647. HENRY MORGAN was indicted for feloniously assaulting Jane Whalsby, on the 15th of September, putting her in fear and danger of her life, and stealing from her person, and against her will, 1 bag, value 4d.; 1 handkerchief, value 1s.; and 4 pence; her property:—also, for feloniously assaulting Felicita Smyth, on the 15th of September, with intent to rob her: to both of which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Transported for Ten Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2648

2648. CHARLOTTE SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of September, 1 gown, value 2s.; 1 apron, value 6d.; 1 shirt, value 6d.; 1 shift, value 9d.; 1 petticoat, value 8d.; 7 caps, value 4s.; 4 watchpockets, value 1s.; 2 pairs of stockings, value 1s.; 1 towel, value 4d.; and 1 knife, value 6d.; the goods of Edward Mack, from the person of Ann Mack; to which she pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2649

2649. JOSEPH HALL WELL was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of September, 12 spoons, value 7l.; and 3 ladles, value 10l.; the goods of John Thomas Edward Flint, in a vessel in a port of entry and discharge; to which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Transported for Ten Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2650

2650. LYDIA WELSH was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of September, 1 night-gown, value 5s.; 1 cap, value 1s.; and 9 yards of flannel, value 15s.; the goods of Richard Pinnell, her master; to which she pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Judgment Respited.

Reference Number: t18420919-2651

2651. JAMES MUNDAY was indicted for embezzlement; to which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined Fourteen Days.

Reference Number: t18420919-2652

2652. JOSEPH WATSON was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Thomas Beck Walter, about the hour of four in the night of the 9th of September, at St. George, Hanover-square, with intent to steal, and stealing therein, 2 shawls, value 15s., the goods of Thomas Beck Walter.

EDWIN HAM . I live with Mr. Thomas Beck Walter, at No. 17, Victoria-road, Pimlico, in the parish of St. George, Hanover-square—he keeps the house—I sleep in the shop. About a quarter before five o'clock, on the morning of the 10th of September, I heard a noise at the shop door—I got up directly, and saw the prisoner poking a long hook through the fan-light, and getting two shawls through—he had forced open the glass, which I had fastened by a string on the previous night—the shawls were some distance inside the shop—he had got up to the fan-light by means of the elbow of the blind and the handle of the door—he drew the shawls out through the fanlight—there was a light inside, but it was just getting daylight, and it could not be distinguished.. o

Prisoner. The policeman said at the station that he had cautioned him once or twice before about leaving the window open. W itness. I did not leave it open that night.

THOMAS IRONS (police-constable B 158.) I was on duty in Victoria-road on the morning of the 10th of September, about a quarter before five o'clock, and saw the prisoner leave the door of No. 17—he bid me good morning, and passed on—I looked at the door, and Ham told me some one had robbed the shop—I ran after the prisoner, and saw him pull the shawls from under his coat, and throw them under a railing, where I took them from—under his coat I found this stick with a hook on it, another hook in his coat pocket, and a knife.

(Property produced and sworn to,)

Prisoner's Defence. I was going out to gather water-cresses, and passing the shop, I saw these two shawls lying, and picked them up; I was never near the door; I use the hook to gather the cresses with.

(The prisoner received a good character.) GUILTY . Aged 54.— Confined Twelve Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2653

2653. GEORGE SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of September, 1 handkerchief, value 1s., the goods of a person whose name is unknown, from his person.

JOHN COXON . I live in Church-street, Soho. On Sunday, the 15th of September, I was standing near our street door, and saw the prisoner picking a gentleman's pocket—he took a silk handkerchief from it, and gave it to a companion, who put it into his pocket, and ran away—the prisoner also ran—the gentleman ran after the other man—he was not taken, and the handkerchief was not found—I saw no more of the gentleman.

THOMAS CHILMAN (police-constable C 75.) I was on duty in Little Windmill-street on the 15th of September, a few minutes past twelve o 'clock I heard a cry of "Stop thief," and saw the prisoner running along Brewer-street, and a quantity of people following him—I took him.

ROBERT BEECH . I am a shoemaker, and live in Church-street, Soho. on the 15th of September I was at my window, and saw the prisoner, with his hand in the gentleman's pocket—he passed the window before I saw him take his hand out.

Prisoner's Defence. If the man had lost his handkerchief, one would

have thought he would have come to the station; this boy is swearing my life away; I was running to see what was the matter.

GUILTY .* Aged 22.— Confined Twelve Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2654

2654. CATHERINE SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of September, 1 sheet, value 1s.; 2 pictures and frames, value 1s.; and 3 plates, value 3d.; the goods of Jane Davis: and 1 sheet, value 1s.; 1 shawl, value 1s.; 1 shift, value 6d.; 2 1/2 yards of calico, value 2s.; and 2 pictures and frames, value 1s.; the goods of Mary Davis.

MARY DAVIS . I live at Palmer's Folly, Shadwell. I and my sister went out about seven o'clock on the night of the 15th of September—we closed our room after us—the door did not lock—we came home between ten and eleven—I missed from my room the articles stated—the prisoner had slept in the room two or three nights with my sister—on the following morning I went to her father's, and found the property—she said she had taken them—she is thirteen years old—I am nineteen, and my sister seventeen—the prisoner followed the same occupation as we did with us.

JANE DAVIS . I am sister of last witness. The prisoner slept in my room for four nights—I afterwards missed some things from my room, went to her mother's house, and found them—the prisoner said she had paid half the money to buy them—she never had given me a farthing.

ROBERT AYLIFFE (police-constable K 270.) I went with Jane Davis to a cottage in Gun-lane, looked through the window, and saw some pictures among other things inside—there was no one at home then—I waited til the prisoner came home with her father and mother—I asked her if she knew any thing of the pictures—she said she had paid part of the money to Jane Davis to purchase them—Davis said she did not—I found a shawl, a shift, two half-yards of calico, a table-cloth, and a pair of sheets—the prisoner handed me the sheets from a basket under the bed, and said, "These are the sheets"—she afterwards said she took them till they paid her the money they owed her.

CHARLES CLARK . I live with Mary Davis. I get my living as a cooper, at the West India Dock. I was with Davis when she bought this calico at Brown's, in Ratcliff-highway, and I gave Mary Davis the money to pay for. it—17d. I believe.

Prisoner's Defence. My mother did not altogether use me well, and on Friday, Jane Davis asked me to go with her to her sister's; I had 2 1/2 d. with which I bought some lucifers to sell; I gave Jane half the money to buy the things, and now she wants to say I did not; on Wednesday my mother and father came for me, and took me home; I told my mother I had some things there; she told me to go and get them; I would not; she gave me a good hiding and I went and got half the things which I bought; what Jane says is false; she brought me into the street three years ago

JANE DAVIS re-examined. She left nothing behind—I had nearly all the things before she came to me—I bought the pictures in the Highway—my sister was with me—I got the money in the streets—the prisoner used to go about picking up men—she never gave me a farthing to ward the things—I met her on Saturday night selling congreves—she said she had no place to go to, and I told her she might go home with me for one night—I bought the calico to make a shirt, at Brown's in the Highway


Reference Number: t18420919-5655

5655. ELLEN SMITH was indicted for stealing, on 16th of September, 1 pair of shoes, value 4s. 6d., the goods of Joseph Jackson.

CHARLES RIVERS . I am apprentice to Joseph Jackson, a shoemaker, in Brill-row, St. Pancras. On the 16th of September I was in the shop—between half-past one and two o'clock the prisoner came in—I asked what she was looking for—she said, "For a pair of boots"—I said we had not got a pair to fit her—she said, "I see you have not," and went out—I watched her, and saw her take a pair of men's shoes from a frame outside, put them under her shawl, and walk away with them—I went after her, and said, "You have stolen a pair of shoes"—I pulled her shawl on one side, and she gave me the shoes, saying, "I did not want to steal them, only to know the price of them"—I gave her into custody—she had gone past the shop, and past the next door—I brought her back—the shoes are my master's.

FRANCIS MANSER . I am a policeman. The prisoner was given into my charge by Rivers—she said she had only taken the shoes to ask the price of them—three farthings were found on her—when I came up she was eight or nine yards from the house—she first gave her address No, 5, Gray's-inn-lane—she afterwards said it was No. 12, but she did not know the name of the place.

Prisoner's Defence. I thought the shoes would suit me, and was going in to ask the price, when he ran out, and caught hold of me—I had them openly in my hand—I certainly had passed the door, but not the window.

GUILTY. Aged 25.— Confined Two Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2656

2656. ROBERT KNIGHT and WILLIAM WEST were indicted for stealing, on the 6th of September, 1 miniature and frame, value 30s.; the goods of Mary Mooney.

The property belonging to Henri Mooney, the prisoners were


NEW COURT.—Thursday, September 22nd, 1842.

Sixth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

Reference Number: t18420919-2657

2657. ELIZABETH WEBB and ELIZABETH MOIR were indicted for stealing, on the 13th of September, 1 pair of stockings, value 1s. 6d., the goods of James Gill.

WILLIAM STARTUP . I am in the service of James Gill, a pawnbroker, in Wilmot-street, Brunswick-square. The prisoners came into the shop, and asked to look at a piece of silk—I believe they both spoke—I showed it them—they did not like the colour, they wanted a jet black, and it was a blue black—I said, "I have got a nice article in stockings that I can show you"—I took down a bundle from behind containing nine or ten pairs—I took one pair out, doubled it up, and laid it on the counter—Webb took another pair, put her hand in them, went to the door, and said they were very nice, and she thought them cheap—there was a set of china stood on the back counter—Moir said it was very pretty—I showed them to her—I saw Webb take the stockings, double them up, and put them down below her person—she took them up again, put them on the counter and said, "The man will think I am going to steal his stockings"—I then Proposed some boots to them, Webb then took the stockings off the counter, and placed them under her arm and scarf—I watched them very

closely—they turned and looked at another set of china in the window and asked the price of it—I told them 7s. 6d.—Moir said she should like to pay a deposit off—Webb persuaded her not, but to leave it till another day—they left the shop—I pursued, and gave them into custody, and at the station I saw the stockings found under Webb's arm, where she put them in in the shop.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. What shop is yours? A. A shop for the sale of unredeemed property—I did not see Moir touch the stockings—I did not give Moir into custody.

(The prisoners received a good character.)


Reference Number: t18420919-2658

2658. ELIZABETH WEBB and ELIZABETH MOIR where again indicted for stealing, on the 13th of September, 1 pair of boots, value 3s. 6d., the goods of John Simpson.

JOHN PARMINTER . I am in the service of John Simpson, of Tottenham-court-road. On the 13th of September the prisoners came to our shop—I fitted each of them with a pair of boots—the policeman afterwards brought this pair of boots—I am sure I had not sold these to them.

SUSANNAH BURDER . I am a searcher at the station. I found these boots in Webb's pocket.

THOMAS FISH (police-constable E 42.) I took the prisoners. Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. I believe it was Startup who gave Webb into custody? A. Yes—Moir followed to see what she was charged with, and was detained at the station—no boots were found on Moir—she did not attempt to run away.

WEBB— GUILTY. Aged 25.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Four Days.


Reference Number: t18420919-2659

2659. JAMES YOUNG was indicted far stealing, on the 23rd of August, 1 wig, value 5s., the goods of Hugh Taylor.

JANE TAYLOR . I am the wife of Hugh Taylor, a wig maker, in Masons-court, Basinghall-street. In the evening of the 3rd of August, I and my husband went out—the wig was safe then—I missed it at nine o'clock the next morning—this is it.

Cross-examined by MR. FRAZER. Q. Was the prisoner in your husband's service? A. He has been, but was not at that time. i

SUSAN M'LEAN TAYLOR . My father and mother went out, that evening—the prisoner came and asked whether my father was within—I said he was not—be went into the sitting-room where the wigs were—he took up the wig, put it on his head, and played with me.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you see him go out with it on his head? A. No, I saw him go out—I do not know whether he was sober.

JAMES COOPER . The prisoner brought the wig to me, and said he wanted to sell it—I said I did not want it—he pleaded distress, and said a shilling would be of great use to him, and I gave him a shilling. GUILTY . Aged 29.— Confined Three Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2660

2660. EDWARD GRANGE, HENRY GREEN , and JOSIAH GLADHALL were indicted for stealing, on the 30th of August, 4 bags, value 3s. 6d., the goods of Thomas Clarke.

HENRY ABRAHAMS . I am shopman to Thomas Clarke, a grocer, in Lisson-erove. On the evening of the 30th of August, I was in the shop, and heard a noise outside—I ran out, and saw the three prisoners—they drew some bags off a soda-water cask outside the door—they ran, and I followed and overtook them—they ran to a beer-shop, where they all went with the bags—I then went back to my master—he came and apprehended them—I took this sack from Giange—it is the one I lost—I am sure these are the three boys.

ALFRED HUGHES (police-constable D 134.) I took the prisoners. I know them all to be associates.

Grange's Defence. I was at the bottom of William-street, and met these two boys; Green asked me to go and sell the sacks.

Gladhall's Defence. I left my work, and was playing with some boys; I saw these four old bags lying by the tub; I saw Green, and asked him to go and sell one to get 1d. worth of pudding; he would not, and then I asked Grange if he would go and sell one, and then he was taken.

GRANGE*— GUILTY . Aged 18.

GREEN*— GUILTY . Aged 19.


Transported for Seven Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2661

2661. RICHARD WARREN was indicted for feloniously receiving, on the 5th of June, 1 watch, value 1l. 16s.; and 1 waistcoat, value 8s.; the goods of Henry Nicholls, well knowing them to have been stolen; against the Statute,.

HENRY NICHOLLS . I am a carver and gilder, and live in Silver-street, Tottenham-court-road. About eleven o'clock on Sunday night, the 5th of Jane, I met a woman at the end of Tottenham-court-road—I went with her to a house in Church-street, St. Giles's—a man came in and wanted me to make some arrangement with the girl—I would not while he was in the room—directly after he had gone out, I took my coat and waistcoat off, and placed my watch and guard in the waistcoat pocket—the light was put out, and I found my waistcoat, watch and guard were gone—the woman took them, and went out with them—I afterwards found my watch at a pawnbroker's in Goswell-street—the prisoner was not the man who came into the room—no one could have taken them but the woman.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. YOU did not see anybody take them out of the room? A. I could not, I was in the dark—I know no other person came into the room, because I was all alone—the woman went out and left the door open—I could not find my way out—I did not stop two minutes.

CHARLES BATH . I am a pawnbroker. I produce the watch, which was pledged on the 6th of June, I cannot tell who by—on the 8th of September the prisoner came to redeem it—I asked if he had pawned it, he said yes—I asked what kind it was, he said a silver hunting watch—I asked how long he had had it, he said eight months, and he had it from his brother, who died.

GEORGE GRAY . I am a pawnbroker. I produce a waistcoat, pledged at our shop by the prisoner, on the 20th of June, together with a coat and some other ai tides.

Cross-examined. Q. The other things have nothing to do with this case? A. No, they are his own.

JAMES BUCKLE . I am an officer of the Goswell-street trust. The prisoner

was given to me by Bath—I found on him ten duplicates, one of which relates to this waistcoat.

JOHN STRUTT (police-constable G 249.) I spoke to the prisoner about this coat and waistcoat—he said they were made for him—I said "How can that be?"—he said he was measured for the coat, and he had purchased the waistcoat at the time he bought the ticket for the watch.

GUILTY . Aged 23.— Transported for Seven Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2662

2662. ELIZABETH MORRIS was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of September, 1 watch, value 4l.; 1 chain, value 4s.; 1 key, valued 5d. 1 crown, 2 half-crowns, and 3 shillings, the property of John Arthur Dodd.

JOHN ARTHUR DODD . I am a corn-dealer, and live in Duke-street, Chelsea. On the 6th of September I met the prisoner, and went with her to an up-stairs room, in George-street, St. Giles's—I placed ray watch and 15s. on the table—I turned my back, and missed my watch and 13s—the prisoner was gone—this is my watch, it was stopped when offered to pledge.

JOHN ARNETT (police-constable F 127.) I produce the watch—the pawnbroker brought it to the station at Bow-street.

GEORGE HAINES BEARER . I am a pawnbroker. Another woman offered this watch in pawn at our shop, on the 7th of September; I stopped her, and she fetched the prisoner.

Prisoner's Defence. I and another young woman were in Holborn, we were accosted by the prosecutor; he took my friend to a house in George-street, St. Giles; he then came and treated us with some spirits and water, and then took me to the same place; he had no money, but gave me the watch to pledge, and I was to leave my bonnet and shawl while I went; owing to the air of the street I lost all recollection; a woman took me home; I remained with her till the following night; I sent the watch by an acquaintance to pledge; it was detained; she fetched me, and I intended to give the prosecutor the duplicate when he paid me.

JOHN ARTHUR DODD . re-examined. I was with another woman first, but the property was safe in my possession when I went with the prisoner to that house. GUILTY. Aged 28.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Three. Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2663

2663. FREDERICK BARRON was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of August, 1 breast-pin, value 1l. 10s.; and J locket, value 15s.; the goods of John Perkins.

WILLIAM SHAWELL . I am servant to John Perkins, a jeweller, in North-place, Gray's-inn-road. The prisoner left a bag with me on the 8th of August—he called for it again between two and three o'clock in the afternoon of the 26th—I went into an adjoining room for it, and left him in the counting-house—when I came in again I missed a breast pin and locket, from a tray on the desk—I had seen them safe five minutes before—he was standing against the counter, a little distance from the desk—I sent for a policeman—I told him I missed these things—he searched, and the pin was found on the floor where the prisoner was sitting—the locket has never been found—I had the prisoner searched—he said he knew nothing about it.

WILLIAM HENRY SAINSBURY . I was in the counting-house—I saw the officer pick up the pin from the floor.

GEORGE WILLIAMS (police-sergeant N 44.) I was called in by Sainsbury a little after three o'clock—the prisoner was given to me, and while I was making a brief search of him, I perceived an uneasy motion with his right hand—I took hold of his hand, and found the pin at his feet—the locket has not been found—there was a great motion in his throat—he seemed unable or unwilling to speak, and called for water, which he drank

(The prisoner received a good character.) GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Three Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2664

2664. WILLIAM DEW was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of September, 37 spoons, value 16l.; 24 forks, value 16l.; 2 butter-boats, value 9l.; 1 soup-ladle, value 2l.; 2 ladles, value 2l.; and 1 fish-slice, value 2l.; the goods of Frederick William Eugene Barandon, his master; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Transported for Ten Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2665

2665. MARY RUSSELL was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of September, 1 gown, value 1s.; the goods of Mary Creed; to which she pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Three Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2666

2666. LUIGI LE BAS was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of September, 1 coat, value 1l.; the goods of Nathaniel Going Hurst, in a vessel in a port of entry and discharge.

NATHANIEL GOING HURST . I am an officer of the Customs. About six o'clock, on the morning of the 13th of September, I missed my coat from the cabin of the Swan King—this is it.

Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN. Q. Did you ask the prisoner about it? A. Yes, and he said he knew nothing about it; but, afterwards, that he saw the man take it.

EDWARD ALDRIDGE . The mate hired me on board this vessel—I went down below—I heard a noise, and saw two men standing on the rail of the next ship, and the prisoner getting over the rail, with the coat in his hand—I asked him what he had got—he said, "Don't speak, don't speak"—he gave me 1s., and I went down below.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you been on board the prisoner's ship that day? A. Yes, once, to toss the line—I did not take a pair of trowsers, and change them with a man for a cap.

JAMES ROBERT WHITE . I am a Thames Police inspector. I went after the prisoner, and found him on board his vessel, the Harmonica. in the London Docks—as soon as he saw me coming down, he hastened to his hammock, and began to pull this coat out of it—he said Aldridge sold it him, which Aldridge denied.

MR. BODKIN called

ANDREA MARIEGA . I am pilot of the prisoner's vessel, the Harmonica. I saw Aldridge bring some trowsers on board our vessel, and exchange them for a cap—he came afterwards, on the same day, with a coat, and sold it to the prisoner—I saw him give some money, I cannot say how much.


Reference Number: t18420919-2667

2667. JOSEPH INNIS was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of September, 2 spoons, value 2l. the goods of Emily Herbert, his mistress.

EMILY HERBERT. I am single, and live in Upper Brook-street. The prisoner was my footman—I missed two spoons on the 19th of September—these now produced are them—they are mine.

JAMES RUDLIN . I am in the employ of Mr. Hall, a pawnbroker. The prisoner offered these spoons at our shop, in the name of William Thomas, Grosvenor-square, on the 17th of September—I saw a crest on them, thought it was not right, and stopped them.

Prisoner's Defence. I intended to return them again.

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined One Year.

Reference Number: t18420919-2668

2668. JOSEPH THORN was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of September, 68 1/2 yards of linen cloth, value 3l. 12s.; 52 yards of printed cotton, value 8s. 6d.; 14 yards of woollen cloth, value 19s.; 8 aprons, the goods of John Scovell. and others.—2nd COUNT, stating them to be the goods of Chaplin Wood.

CAPLIN WOOD . I am carman to Messrs. John, Henry, and George Scovell. I was in Broad-street, delivering a bale of goods, on the 17th of September, and saw the prisoner take a small bale out of my cart—I pursued and overtook him in Threadneedle-street with it on his shoulders—it contained the articles stated in the indictment—they were my master's—the prisoner tried to get away, and we both fell down together.

Prisoner. I was in Threadneedle-street, and we both fell down together. would carry a load; I said yes, and thanked him. Witness. I saw him take it out of my cart.

GUILTY .†Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2669

2669. THOMAS HORTON was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of September, 1 copper pot, value 2s., the goods of Michael Cannon.

MICHAEL CANNON . I keep the Prince of Orange, at Westminster. I was in the back barlour on the 14th of September—the prisoner camen at a quarter past four o'clock and called for a pint of beer and a knife—he sat a quarter of an hour, and I observed him take a pot of the shelf—he went out—I followed, took the pot from him, and brought him back—this is the pot—he might have been drinking, but he knew what he was about.

GUILTY .† Aged 18.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2670

2670. THOMAS BEETCHENOW was indicted for embezzling, on the 27th of August, 8l. 15s. 6d. the monies of Anselm Brown, his master; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Nine Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2671

2671. REUBEN THOMAS HERBERT was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of August, 1 bottle, value 6d., and 1 half-crown, the property of Daniel Harris, his master; and that he had been before convicted of felony to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 16.— Transported for Seven Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2672

2672. SUSAN HART was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of September, 1 pair of boots, value 4s. 6d.; the goods of Robert Ball and another; to which she pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined Three Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2673

2673. WILLIAM TOLMAN was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of September, 1 printed book, value 3s., the goods of Frederick Newth; also, on the 5th of September, 1 printed book, value 5s., the goods of John Hawkesley Levet; to both which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2674

2674. FANNY LONGARD and ELIZABETH FIELDER were indicted for stealing, on the 11th of September, 1 veil, value 10s.; 4 shifts, value 10s.; 1 whittle, value 4s.; 1 cloak, value 3s.; 2 handkerchiefs, value 2s. 6d.; 1 bed-gown, value 1s.; 1 apron, value 6d.; the goods of Elizabeth Bond; to which they both pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined Three Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2675

2675. FREDERICK M'DONALD was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of September, 15 lambs, price 13l. 10s.; the property of Samuel Matthews; and that he had been before convicted of felony.

SAMUEL MATTHEWS . I am a butcher, living in Britannia-terrace, City-road. On the 3rd of September I sent six sheep and twenty-one lambs to my drover, John Hunt, to take to Mr. Barker's field at Islington—they had the country mark on them, which they had when I purchased them—I have since seen the skins of the lambs that were lost in the field—they were marks that I can swear to them by—there were fifteen skins—here is the mark on the skins—(looking at one,)

Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. How old were these lambs? A. I suppose four or five mouths—we do not call them yearlings till they are twelve months old—I bought part of them at Romford market and part at Smithfield—I put no mark on them—there might be other sheep with the tame mark.

JOHN HUNT . I received these lambs from the prosecutor—I gave them to Reeves to take td Barker's field.

JOSEPH REEVES . I live in Lamb and Flag-court, Clerkenwell. I received twenty-one lambs and six sheep from Hunt—I took them to Barker's field—I could not swear to the skins.

JOHN ALLEN . I drove some sheep from the field on the 5th of September—when I drove the others away there were fifteen left safe—I went again on the 9th to get them, and they were gone.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you the person who locked the gate of the field? A. No. You have to go through a gate and that is locked—when I went for the sheep I found the gate locked.

WILLIAM BERKSHIRE . I went to this field on the 7th of September—I found the fifteen lambs all safe—I locked the gate.

CHARLES CHANCE . I am a butcher, and live in Golden-lane, St. Luke's. About four in the afternoon of the 8th of September the prisoner came and asked if I could kill ten sheep, for Mr. Hill, of Newgate-market—he said they were coming from Barnet, and he had to go on the road to meet them—he did not know what time they would come—he asked if I could kill them that evening—I said yes, if they came in soon—he came again about

half-past seven with fifteen lambs—about a quarter to eight he struck the first lamb down—we went on and dressed the fifteen lambs—I found they were full of dung, and I asked him if he recollected a case which occurred in White cross-street—he said he knew these were all right, as Mr. Hill was a respectable man—I killed the fifteen lambs, and he said Mr. Hill. would be there at half-past three o'clock—instead of that the prisoner came with another man, at three o'clock in the morning, and said he would take ten of the worst away and leave five of the best—that these were going to Titmus and Dowding, in Warwick-lane—when he was gone I went to Newgate-market and could not find them there—when I came back the prisoner and one Allen were waiting outside my door for the other five lambs and the skins—they asked if I had been up the market—I said, "No"—I let them take the lambs and skins—I told Allen I thought these things were not right—after that I waited for a policeman coming, and told him of the circumstance—I then went to Mr. Hill, in Newgate-market—he knew nothing about them—I inquired and found Mr. Matthews had lost them—I am sure the skins produced are the skins which came off the lambs I killed.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you ever seen the prisoner before? A. Not to my knowledge—I was committed once for stealing from the person, but there was no true bill found—I am in the habit of killing for different persons—the prisoner told me Mr. Hill was recommended by Messrs. Pickford and Bright—I knew Mr. Hill before that, but never killed for him before; I had dealt with him many times—I am not in the habit of killing for parties I deal with—Pickford and Bright are respectable butchers in Bath-street—the prisoner said Mr. Hill had employed him—I went to see for Mr. Hill at half-past three o'clock in the morning to ask him—I found things were not right—Mr. Hill's shop was not open—I inquired for Mr. Hill and saw Sam. Cotton—he said Mr. Hill was not come—when I returned I let the five lambs go and fifteen skins—the prisoner asked me what the Iambs might cost—I said about 16s. a piece—he said he did not know what they cost, Mr. Hill bought them and he supposed he got a cheap bargain—Hill is not here—I did not see this paper in the course of the night—(looking at one)—I swear I never saw any such paper—my suspicions had been excited in the night—I did not say I should like to have bought these sheep, and I would girl something more for them.

WALTER HENRY BROWN (police-constable G 62.) I found these skins in Leadenhall-market with Mr. Challis's foreman—Chance said, "I think it is not right"—I said, "I think it is not."

Cross-examined. Q. Why did you say so? A. By seeing the skins and heads all bundled together—I saw some of the carcases in Leadenhall-market.

ROBERT COLLINS (City-police-constable, No. 530.) About half-past five o'clock I saw the prisoner bring the skins into the skin market, Leadenhall—(examining them)—this is one of them.

JAMES HAYWARD (police-constable G 212.) I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction, which I got from Mr. Clark's office—(read)—the prisoner is the person.

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported Fourteen Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2676

2676. JOHN WILSON was indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of August, 1 pair of boots, value 2s., the goods of Thomas Murray, from his person.

THOMAS MURRAY . I am a pot-boy, and live in Drury-lane—about four o'clock on the morning of the 23rd of August I went to sleep in the Adelphi arches, when I awoke my boots were gone—they were safe on my feet before—these now produced are them I am sure.

Prisoner. You know you were taken up for vagrancy and released to come against me, how do you know these boots? Witness. I am sure they are mine.

WILLIAM WEST (police-constable F 106.) I took the prisoner in Covent-garden—he had these boots on his feet—I went up to him and asked where he got them—he said they were given to him in the market.

Prisoner's Defence. I said I bought them of a young lad in Covent-garden market.

GUILTY .** Aged 22.— Transported for Ten Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2677

2677. JAMES RANDALL was indicted for stealing, on the 9th of September, 1 couch, value 2l., the goods of the East and West India Dock Company, his masters.

MESSRS. CLARKSON and PAYNE conducted the Prosecution.

ALFRED GEALE . I am delivery foreman in the baggage warehouse in the East and West India Docks. About twelve months ago a rattan couch was landed from the Dartmouth and placed in the baggage ware house—on the 8th of September it was delivered to Joseph Scott, who brought this delivery order for it.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q.I suppose there was a great quantity of baggage landed at this time? A. Yes. No other ships arrived about that time—a great many have since, and the baggage was put in this warehouse—the couch came in September, 1841—no other property that came by that ship continued in the warehouse—the prisoner has been in the Company's service ten or eleven years.

MR. PAYNE. Q. Was there any thing remaining on the 9th of September that came from the Dartmouth? A. I do not think there was.

JOSEPH SCOTT . I am a carman, living in the East India-road. I have known the prisoner as a servant to the dock company some years—I attend the docks daily—on Friday, the 9th of September, at half-past twelve o'clock, I was waiting for orders—the prisoner said he should require me to move some goods the next day—he gave me this paper to get a couch from the baggage warehouse—I was to keep it in my stable till the following morn—ing and then to remove it—he gave me some money to pay the charges, and next day I was to take it to where he lived—I got it by means of the order, and took it to my stable, and the next morning about five I took it to the prisoner's place, in Mile End-road.

Cross-examined. Q. In the course of business would it have been proper if any body had given you this order, to have gone to the warehouse? A. Yes.

BENJAMIN SALTER . I am warehouse-keeper at the baggage warehouse in the East India Docks—the prisoner was clerk in that warehouse—the body of this order is the prisoner's hand-writing—Mr. Beavan's signature son it, and this is the prisoner's signature in the corner.

JOHN HOLEN . I am an extra labourer in the East India Docks. On the 9th of September I was at work in the baggage warehouse when Geale delivered the couch to the carman—the prisoner said he wished it was his he would not mind giving 10s. for it.

THOMAS PEARCE BBAVAN . I am a surgeon, and live at South Newington, in Oxfordshire. I came home by the Dartmouth in September, 1841—I had no rattan couch belonging to me—this order is not my writing—I have no knowledge of it—I have not been at the baggage warehouse since the latter part of last year—I made no application for the delivery of any couch—I remember seeing the prisoner at the baggage-office among others.

JOHN ROEBUCK . I am a constable of the East India Docks. I took tike prisoner for stealing a couch—he said he had purchased it of a gentlenman in the baggage warehouse about three months ago, and it was at his house in Mile-End-road—I went with him, found the couch, and brought it away—this is Mr. Broderip the Magistrate's handwriting—(read)—" The prisoner says,' This is a couch that had remained since September last in the baggage warehouse; it was landed as part of the luggage of Mrs. Duggan, a pas senger, and was left behind, as not belonging to her. About three month back, a person stating himself to be Mr. Beavan, who came home as a surgeon in the Dartmouth, inquired for a couch belonging to him, and identified this as his; he made some inquiry of me as to what was necessary to be done; I replied, his own order would be required, and the payment of charges; he requested me to write him the form of an order; that individual signed the order, and took it away with him, stating he would send for it; some time elapsed, perhaps a week or two, after that, and the same individual came to the baggage warehouse, and presented the order for the purpose of sending away the couch; he made a remark even then, that it would be almost useless to him, that he scarce knew what he should do with it, or words to that effect. I asked him if he would part with it; he agreed to do so, and the price was arranged for it; I handed the money to him, and in return he passed me the order; this has been lying from that time up to last Friday amongst other papers of a similar description; the order was passed over by me to Scott to receive the couch, and ultimately to leave it at my house.'

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY. Aged 42.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury.

Confined Three Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2678

2678. LEWIS LEVY was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Nicholas Wrenalds, on the 24th of August, at St. John Clerkenwell, and stealing therein 74 yards of woollen cloth, value 5., his goods.

NICHOLAS WRENALDS . I am a tailor, and live at No. 64, Red lion street, in the parish of St. John, Clerkenwell—it is my dwelling-house—I know the prisoner, and have had dealings with him. On Wednesday, the 24th of August, he came to my house—I was up stairs lying down—about ten minutes past two o'clock there was a ring at the door—my wife went to the door, and she said it was him—in about twenty minutes after I found that seventy-four yards of woollen cloth, worth about 45l., were gone from my house, also a sheet of brown paper, and a cutting-board—I went in search of the prisoner, and found him at the Three Compasses, in Cow cross

—I have not found any of my property—when he was charged he said be was innocent, and was surprised that I should charge him with it.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. You have known him some yean? A. Yes—I have purchased of him, and sold clothes, and exchanged them—I should not have done that if I had not thought him an honest man—it was about half-past two o'clock when my wife communicated this loss to me—it was within five minutes of that time.

HARRIET JANB WRENALDS . I am the prosecutor's wife. On the 24th of August the prisoner rang at the bell, about ten minutes past two o'clock, and I answered the door—he asked if my husband was at home—I said "No"—he said, when would he be in?—I said it was uncertain—he said, "Tell him I will call in an hour, and tell him to wait to see me"—he then went away, and I shut the door—the outer door does not shut, it stands open—there is an inner door in the centre of the passage, which opens with a small key—that was shut when the prisoner was gone—this cloth was in a room directly opposite that inner door as you go along the passage, and there is another door to the room—I went down again about twenty minutes past two, and closed the door of that room, but I did not lock it—I then saw the cloth safe—the prisoner had frequently been in that room on former occasions, and knew it perfectly well—I came down stain again in about ten minutes or a quarter of an hour, and found the doors all open, and the cloth was gone—there was a piece of brown, two pieces of black, and one of blue—when the prisoner was there, he said he would call again a little after three—he did not call again.

Cross-examined. Q. He was to call, I believe, to part with some macintoshes? A. He did not say what he wanted—my husband is in the habit of dealing with him for articles of that description—I told my husband when the prisoner called, and he looked at his watch, and it was ten minutes past two o'clock—the cloth was safe at twenty minutes past two, when I shut the door—Mr. Yarnold's daughter, who works for my husband, was the first person who gave me information about the prisoner—I did not tell her that I suspected him, nor that he had been there—my husband did not see Yarnold till he was fetched to recognize the prisoner.

PHILIP YARNOLD . I am a tailor, and live in Merlin's-place, Clerkenwell. About half-past two o'clock, on the 24th of August, I was passing through St. John's-square, which is near to Red Lion-street—I saw three men conveying large bundles of cloth—two of them I could see were cloth—I could not see what was inclosed in the other bundle—the prisoner was one Of the men, and he was carrying a brown bundle of cloth—I was surprised to see cloth conveyed in that manner—I have not the least doubt about his being one of the three men—they were coming in a direction from Red Lion-street.

Cross-examined. Q. To whom did you give information? A. My daughter called at Mr. Wrenald's—I should not know the other two persons—I had never seen the prisoner before-, to my knowledge; and I only saw him then as he was passing through the square—he being the centre man, came as near to me as possible—I was standing at the corner, waiting for their passing.

JOSEPH COVINTON . I am a clock-case maker, and live in Red Lion-street. At half-past two o'clock, on the 24th of August, I saw the prisoner, with two other persons, carrying a large quantity of black and dark

brown cloth—they appeared to be coming from Red Lion-street-in the middle of Albermarle-street is a public-house—the prisoner ordered the other men to put down the cloth and get some beer, while he went for a cab—he went away in the direction of a cab.

Cross-examined. Q. Where did you see them? A. In Albermarle. street, St. John's-square, it was half-past two o'clock, as near as I could possibly guess, by the distance I had walked from home—it was about 100 yards from Red Lion-street.

ANDREW BOYESON (police-sergeant G 19) I took the prisoner—he said he knew nothing of it, and accounted for his time during that afternoon by saying he had been at the Flying Horse, in Cutler-street; and from the time he was at Mr. Wrenald's, which was two o'clock, he had been in Cutler-street and in Rosemary-lane.

HENRY REDMAN (police-constable G 224.) I heard the prisoner state that he was in company with George Allen the whole of the day, and the parties must be mistaken.

Cross-examined. Q. Are you quite sure that Allen was the name of the person he mentioned? A. Yes.


ROBERT WILCOX . I am a cotton-dealer, and live at the White Hone, in Middlesex-street, Whitechapel—I have three apartments in the house—I have heard of this robbery of the cloth, and the day on which it was com. mitted—I remember the day—I was at home that day, and saw the prisoner about half-past two o'clock—I am certain it was within a minute under or over that time—two o'clock is my dinner-hour—my dinner was not ready, and I was obliged to stop at home—there is a clock in the house, right opposite the door—I can see it at any time—the prisoner stopped with me on the step of the door for two or three minutes—he frequently calls to ask me how I do—I have known him twenty years—he had something with him which appeared like a macintosh—I was at the police-office when the prisoner was examined, but not on this case, I was there accidentally—I spoke to the prosecutor, and told him he was mistaken.

COURT. Q. How long have you been at the White Horse? A. Above nineteen years—not living there wholly, but my business has been there all that time—I have been living there eighteen months—I have dealt with different Scotch houses for cotton—with Duff of Paisley, and others—I have sold to Mr. Spencer, in Holborn, a mattrass-maker and upholsterer—I think I sold him some cotton about six months ago—I sold two or three tons of cotton to the Southampton railway about three months ago, for cleaning their machinery—I sold thirty-five cwt. to Mr. Seaward, of Limehouse, an engineer, about three weeks or a month ago—I bought it of Mr. Dennis Good, of Glasgow—I did not state this to the Magistrate—I was not asked—there was nobody called on the prisoner's behalf at all—I have known him twenty years.

Q. Well, you were waiting for your dinner this day? A. Yes—I was in the passage—I some—times dine in the bar-parlour with the landlord—his name is Brampton—I did not dine with him that day—I dined up stairs, in my own apartment—I dine where I choose—it is just as it happens; if the landlord has got any thing that suits my appetite I dine with him, and sometimes I dine up stairs—my daughter is bar-maid there—my dinner hour is two o'clock, but I was waiting for dinner that day—my wife brought it up stairs, and cooked it—I stopped for it—it was about

half-past two when I saw the prisoner, and after that I went up to dinner, in about four or five minutes—not having had my dinner is not the only circumstance which induces me to say it was half-past two when I saw the prisoner—it was thirty-five minutes, or two or three and thirty minutes after two when I saw him—I would not swear what colour his coat was—he was on the step of the door first, and I came down to him—I have seen him sometimes two or three times a week, or more or less—be did live with his parents, in Middlesex-street, but on the 24th of August he was living where his wife is living now, in Cowcross-street—I know it was the 24th of August, because Mr. Wrenalds came down to me the same night to state about this property being lost—be asked if I had seen Mr. Levy.

NICHOLAS WRENALDS re-examined. Q. Did the prisoner send you to this witness? A. When I received the information I went to the prisoner's father-in-law, and said I had received information that was his son-in-law—he said it could not be so, he would go down and do what he conldto find him—he took me to his father and mother, and this witness—we asked if he had been down there—they said he had in the afternoon—I do not recollect that they said at what time—they said he had been there most of the afternoon, and then we went back, and found him sitting in the parlour of the Three Compasses—I knew be usually, spent his evenings there.

CHRISTOPHER BRAMPTON . I keep the White Horse in Middlesex-street. Wilcox lodges with me—I think I have a perfect knowledge of seeing the prisoner on the 24th of August—he inquired for Mr. Wilcox, between two and three o'clock, and Mr. Wilcox went down outside to him—I have kept that house two years.

JOHN PAYNE . I live in Whitecross-street, St. Luke's—I am a boot and shoemaker—I have lived there nearly seven yean, and in the same street more than thirty years. I knew the prisoner when he was ten years of age—I have not known him exactly from that time till now—I have bought goods of him in the lane—I remember the day he was taken—I bad seen him that day, I think, between two and three o'clock, in Petticoat-lane—I purchased two pairs of boots and two pairs of shoes of him—that is a very little way from the White Horse—after that I went with him to the Gun and Star—I had a penny-worth of rum, and he had half-a-pint of beer—that is the mode of doing business there—"You must give so much, and stand a drop"—when I came out of the Gun and Star, I left the prisoner going towards Cutler-street—I afterwards heard he was in custody. COURT. Q. How long have you dealt in Petticoat-lane? A. More than thirty years—I never bought any thing of the prisoner only in Petticoat-lane—I recollect him perfectly well that day—I cannot exactly tell how he wag dressed—he had some macintoshes on his arm—I cannot say what colour they were, as they are not in my way of business—I was not to look at what coat he had on—he was alone when I purchased the boots and shoes of him—I did not see any other man with him—I am well aware it was near three o'clock, as I had an appointment—I immediately went home to Whitecross-street—I had to go to Paddington, to meet a person, at half-past four, and I thought I should be too late to meet the other party.

CHARLES SMITH . I live at No. 206, Shoreditch, opposite the Eastern Aunties Railway. I have known the prisoner about two years—I remember

the day on which he was taken into custody—I heard of it after I got home at night—I had seen him that day in Houndsditch, about ten minutes before three o'clock—we drank together—I got home before four, and I dare say it was about three-quarters of an hour before I got home that I had seen him.

MART CORDWELL . I am a widow, and keep a pawnbroker's shop in Exmouth-street. On the 24th of August, some cloth was brought to me by a tall stout man—he was alone in the box, and there were two persons outside—there was one piece of black cloth, one of brown, and one a mixture, pepper-and-salt, I believe—there was about ten yards of it the person who brought it wanted 3l. 10s. for it—I offered 3l. on it—the prisoner was not one of the persons who came—I attended at Hatton-garden, and said he was not the man—the person who brought the cloth was much like Nesbit, the officer at Hat ton-garden.

JOSEPH LEWIS . I am a police-inspector. It would take a man from fifteen to twenty minutes, to go from Red Lion-street to Petticoat-lane in a cab—the distance is better than a mile, it may be a mile and a half.

PHILIP YARNOLD re-examined. The person was dressed in black, as the prisoner is now—I could not tell whether it was a frock coat or a lapelled coat, because the cloth was under the arm—I have not the least doubt about it being the prisoner.

(Alfred Smith, a beer-seller, in Turnmill-street; James Philpot, a hat manufacturer, in Cutler-street; William Lee, a cooper, in Goulston-street; and Hart, a fishmonger, in Artillery-passage; gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 28.— Transported for Ten Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2679

2679. MARY ANN WARFORD was indicted for stealing, on the 18th of September, 1 pair of boots, value 1s., the goods of John North, from the person of Jane North.

ELIZABETH NORTH . I am the wife of John North. On Sunday, the 18th of September, my child, Jane North, went out about ten o'clock—(she is two years and a half old)—she had a pair of boots on—she was brought home about a quarter before eleven—the boots were then on her feet.

GEORGE GOULDEN . I am a tailor. About half-past ten o'clock I went up Charlotte-street—I saw the prisoner with the child—she lifted her over the dirt, and walked about a dozen yards—she then took her boots off, and seemed as if she was going to take her stockings off—she saw me, and put the pinafore round the child's feet—I went and said, "I don't think this child belongs to you"—she said, "I live in the same house, and am going to take her home"—I thought it could not be her child, because it was dressed so nicely, and she was dirty—the child told where she lived, and I took her home.

JOHN WOOD (police-constable E 24.) The prisoner was given to me—she said she was going to take the child home, and only took the boots off to wipe them.


Reference Number: t18420919-2680

2680. WILLIAM SMITH, HENRY READ , and JOHN HORSLEY , were indicted for stealing, on the 18th of September, 2lbs. weight of bacon, value 1s. 6d. the goods of Isabella M'Nish.

MARIA THORN . I am in the service of Mrs. Isabella M'Nish, of Belinda-terrace, Islington—this bacon was in her safe in the area last Saturday night, at eleven o'clock—the next morning it was gone, also a loin of mutton and some butter—the safe and the area were all over soot—this is the bacon, I can swear.

JAMES WRIGHT (police-constable N 127.) I took the three prisoners at eleven o'clock last Sunday morning—they were dressed as sweeps—they were in a shed that had formerly been a dwelling-house—they were lying on sacks, and this bacon was on a shelf by their side—Read said they bought it of a man in the street

JOHN CLARE (police-constable N 406). I took the prisoners—I observed some-coloured paint on Smith's trowsers, and Mrs. M'Nish's area had been painted lead colour.

Horsley. I went to sleep there; I did not know where the bacon came from.

SMITH†— GUILTY . Aged 17.

READ†— GUILTY . Aged 18.


Confined Four Months—the last week in each month solitary.

(There was another indictment against the prisoners.)

Fifth jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.

Reference Number: t18420919-2681

2681. WILLIAM HARVEY was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of September, 1 purse, value 3s.; 2 rings, value 5s.; 4 shillings, and 1 sixpence; the property of Isabella Holmes; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 13.— Confined One Week.

Reference Number: t18420919-2682

2682. JOHN ALLBON was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of September, 1 stepping-iron, value 1s., the goods of Mary Andrews; to which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined Two Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2683

2683. JOHN MADRAS was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of September, 1 truck, value 1l., the goods of William Cole; also, on the 10th of September, 1 truck, value 3l., the goods of Thomas Burt; also, on the 8th of September, 1 truck, value 1l., the goods of Henry Bird; and that he had been before convicted of felony; to all of which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Transported for Seven Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2684

2684. JACOB ANDREWS was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of September, 1 peck of oats in the chaff, value 6d. the goods of Thomas Godleman; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 13.— Confined One Month.

Reference Number: t18420919-2685

2685. GEORGIANA MARY ANN HOLLY was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of July, 1 pair of trowsers, value 10s.; and 1 scarf, value 5s.; the goods of Richard Chater, her master.

MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.

EMILY CHATER . I am the wife of Richard Chater, of Tottenham Court-road. The prisoner was my servant—I went into the country on the 5th of July, leaving her in the house—she was the only servant—there was a clerk in the shop, but he had nothing to do with the upper part

of the house—I returned on the 27th of July, and observed a white bed curtain had been taken from a press in another part of the house, and had been put up—I spoke to her about it—she said she had pushed the wardrobe open, and got it—she left the following day of her own accord—I searched, and missed different things—among them was a scarf and a pair of trowsers—the scarf was kept in a drawer, which was locked when I left—she had no right to go to that drawer—the trowsers were on a chair by the side of the bed—when I came home I found the drawer shut, but the lock had been forced—this is the scarf.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. When did she leave you? A. On the 28th of July—I saw the scarf and trowsers again about a week or eight days after, on a Monday—I had some words with her, as she had done something very improper with respect to the furniture—I often gave her things.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Did you give her the scarf or trowsers? A. No, WILLIAM MATHERSON. I am the prosecutor's porter, and live in St. John's-court, Snow-hill. My master and mistress were out of town-on the day before they returned I packed up a parcel for the prisoner to send home to her mother—she asked me to do so—it was packed in this paper—(looking at it)—I left the parcel with her.

ELIZABETH HOLLY . I am the prisoner's sister—I live with my mother, at Rayley, in Essex. About half-past ten o'clock on a Wednesday, (I do not know what day of the month) I received a parcel from my sister—it contained an old scarf and an old pair of trowsers—the prosecutor came to our house and took them away—there was a little old frock with one sleeve out and a few old rags.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you see Mr. Chater and the officer there? A. Yes—when the things were found Mr. Chater said, if that wag all she had he would not prosecute her.

RICHARD CHATER . I am a paper-stainer. I have a pair of trowsers Which I got at Mrs. Holly's, at Rayley—I did not tell Elizabeth Holly that if that was all the prisoner had taken I would not prosecute her—these trowsers are worth about 1l., and the scarf 1s.

Cross-examined. Q. How long had you had the trowsers? A. I do not know—they were too small—I hardly ever wore them—they were split across the seat, and were left out to be sent to the tailor's—I found them in a box—there was no difficulty made about my searching—Elizabeth Holly said, "We know you were coming, we are not fools at Rayley".

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Did you go down with a search warrant? A. Yes, in consequence of missing things of great value—these were the only things we found.

CHARLES ROBERTS (police-constable E 20.) On the 6th of August I went to Rayley—we got a search warrant there—I went to Holly's house, and there found these trowsers, scarf, this child's dress and brown paper—I took the prisoner into custody in Grenville-street on the 7th of August—she asked what I took her for—I said, for robbing her late master, Mr. Chater—she said she knew nothing about it, she thought it was all settled—I told her I had been to Rayley—she asked what I had found—I did not tell her till we got to the station—I there produced the parcel—she said nothing about the trowsers and scarf, but that her mistress gave her the dress.

MRS. CHATER re-examined This scarf is mine—I had never given

it to the prisoner, or authorized her to take it—I am certain it was in the drawer—I told the prisoner to send these trowsers to the tailor's when the porter came next from the City.

GUILTY. Aged 23.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2686

2686. CHARLES RICHMOND was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of September, 68 yards of ribbon, value 1l. 4s. 5d., the goods of Mary Smyth Forsaith and another.

THOMAS OVERALL . I am shop man to Miss Forsaith, in Gerrard's-row, Marylebone. About eight o'clock in the morning of the 15th of September, the prisoner came to our shop—no one was in the shop but me—he asked for some narrow ribbon, for rosettes for horses' heads—I showed him some boxes, and he chose several pieces—he first said he would have fourpenny ribbon, then sixpenny, and then ninepenny—he put the ribbons he chose into his pocket, and went away—he came again on the Thursday, and chose several pieces—I told him what they would come to, and they laid on the counter—Miss Forsaith came down, seized his arm, and said, "You have more than belongs to you"—he shook very much, took the ribbons out of his pocket, and threw them into the box again—I did not see him take anything from the box—they were not part of those be bad bought and paid for on the Tuesday before.

Cross-examined by MR. CHARNOCX. Q. How do you know they were not what he bought on Tuesday? A. They were very narrow ones which he bought on Tuesday, and they were wide ones be pulled out on Thursday—he appeared to know what he was doing—I do not know that he is subject to fits—when my mistress charged him, he said, "Don't take me, I have a wife and six children"—he offered to pay me for what I had measured—he said he was only having a lark with the boy—I do not think he was having a lark, because he did not speak to me.

MARY SMYTH FORSAITH . I am a milliner, and live in Edgeware-road. I was present on the Tuesday, and saw the prisoner there—he went out, and came again on the Wednesday, and bought some ribbon on each of those days—on Thursday I was up stairs—I heard someone in the shop—I knew who it was by his voice—I went part of the way down, and could see what was going on—I saw the prisoner take two pieces of ribbon out of the box—he was in the act of putting them into his pocket when I came down and laid hold of him—I said, "You have more than belongs to you"—he said nothing, but put his hand into his pocket, pulled out several pieces more, and put them into the box which was on the counter—I told him I must send for a policeman, to know where he lived, because I had missed several the morning before (they belonged to me and Miss Johnson) the prisoner said he was doing it for a lark—I said, if he was larking with the two pieces I found in his hand, why should he lark with those found in his pocket?—he said he had a wife and six children—here is between seventy and eighty yards of ribbon.

Cross-examined. Q. What is the name of your partner? A. Elizabeth Johnson knew the prisoner's voice—he had been there about the same time each morning, and had a sort of cough—he said it was for a lark—I then said I would charge him with the police—he went on his knees and begged I would not do it—I said I would not if he would tell

me where he lived, that I might get my property, as I had lost some the morning before.

JAMES MACKINTOSH (police-constable D 68.) I took the prisoner and received these five pieces of ribbon—he said he had better settle for these small pieces before he went any farther; they were what he had bought.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined Four Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2687

2687. JOHN CLINCH was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of September, 2 snuff-boxes, value 8l.; 1 coat, value 2l.; 1 cloak, value 2l.; And 1 pair of boots, value 1l.; the goods of William Henry Storey, in his dwelling house.

WILLIAM FULLER . I am a groom to William Henry Storey, of Eden house, Isleworth. On Thursday, the 8th of September, I was in the stable-yard, and saw the prisoner crossing the yard with a bag across his shoulder, going from the house towards the road—as soon as he sail was after him, he threw the bag down and ran away—I called, "Stop thief"—I ordered some persons to pick up the bag—he was stopped—I came up and brought him part of the way back—as I was going along I saw him drop two silver tea-spoons and a pair of sugar-tongs—the perm with the bag waited till I came up, and in it were two snuff-boxes, a pair of boots, a cloak, and a coat—they were all my master's—the prisoner was searched, and several halfpence and another spoon found on him another spoon was found on him at the station—I had seen this coat aid cloak safe two hours before, because I brushed them and put them on a slab in the hall—I had seen these boots on a chair—they belong to my young master—these snuff-boxes are my master's—they were lying on the side-board in the dining-room—I have no recollection of seeing them after Sunday—these things were found in the prisoner's bag.

Cross-examined by MR. PREKDERGAST. Q. Are you quite sure be is the person you saw there? A. Yes, I am quite sure he is the person—I do not know any thing of him—I am quite sure these are the snuffboxes—I know them by their general appearance.

DANIEL BECKHAM (police-constable T 49.) I took the prisoner-be denied it—while searching him I saw a silver spoon drop from him—I took him to the station, and there searched him again—I found another silver spoon in the lower part of his trowsers—this bag and other things were delivered to me.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Twelve Months.

(There was another indictment against the prisoner.)

Reference Number: t18420919-2688

2688. HENRY WILLIAM SMITH was indicted for feloniously receiving, on the 16th of September, 1 log of timber, value 7l, the goods of Thomas Fernie.

WILLIAM HATTON . I am in the employ of Mr. Fernie, a shipwright I went to work on his premises at six o'clock in the morning, on the 16th of September—I missed a log of timber, which I had seen safe at six the night before, when I went away—it had been fastened with staples, and floated on the tide—I got a boat, and found the log, about half-part two in the day, in a barge in which the prisoner was—I went on board,

examined it, and told him my master bad lost a log of timber, and this one resembled it very much—he said that could not be, for he bought it of a Mr. Watts, or Watson, over the water—I said I could swear to its being my master's—I went into the street through his premises—he called me into a passage, and said, "Come here want to speak to you; I will tell you what it is—between you and me, I bought this piece of timber on the cross"—I said it was a bad job—he said, "Can't you and me settle this? go and say you can't find it"—I said, "I have got a wife as well as you; if I don't find it, I shall lose my place"—he said, "Go, and say you can find nothing of it; if you can find a person who can keep a secret, I will sign any paper, and pay you any thing afterwards, if you are made to pay for it"—I said, "No, my master must know it".

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Did he say he was very sorry? A. Yes—I pressed him to go to my master—he said he bought it of a dredger man, and paid 4l. for it.

PETER URQUHART . I am a shipwright in the prosecutor's employ. The prisoner came to the premises, and said he wanted to see Mr. Fernie—I said he was out, was it any thing I could do?—He said he had fallen into a bad job, he had bought a log from a lighterman, or a dredger-man—he said be paid 4l. for it, and he bought it of a very bad character—I know this log—it is my master's, and should think it worth 7l. or 8l.

Cross-examined. Q. Would not a timber-merchant know the value of it better than you? A. Yes—I never was in the habit of buying timber. THOMAS FERNIE. I am a shipwright, and live at Wapping. The prisoner and my foreman came to me—he said a bad job had happened; he had a log of timber of mine, which he bought of a dredger-man, and he gave 4l. for it—I told him he must know it was worth more than that—he said he knew it was, and offered to pay me the value of it, and the expense, which I declined—I went with him to his premises, and identified the log as mine—it is worth between 6l. and 7l.—I know it to be mine by my marks on it—I had seen it safe at eleven o'clock the night before.

JOSEPH JOHN LEWIS . I am a Thames Police inspector. I took the prisoner—he said he bought the log of a dredger-man, for 4l.—he said he did not know the man, nor the boat he was in.

Cross-examined. Q. The prisoner is a lighterman? A. Yes, and he works at repairing barges—I found this timber in a barge under his premises, cut in half, and it was lying open close to his house. NOT GUILTY ;.

Reference Number: t18420919-2689

2689. MARY SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of September, 1 pair of shoes, value 3s., the goods of the Guardians of the Poor, of the Brentford Union.

JOSEPH DICKENSON . I am porter of the Brentford Union workhouse. On the 14th of September, I heard about a pair of shoes, and went after the prisoner—I found her at the back of the Union-house—I brought her back, and told her what I charged her with—she stated that she knew nothing about it—Jane Smith was with her—I took the prisoner to the station, and then she stated she took the shoes from under Mary Griffin's bed in the Union-house, on the Wednesday—(she had left on the Wednesday morning about a quarter to ten)—she stated that they were pledged—I asked her who pledged them—she said Jane Smith, at Mr. Burford's—

I went there and found them—these are they—I made them for Griffin a short time before—they were not made for the stock.

MARY GRIFFIN . I am an inmate of this workhouse—I had these shoes at seven o'clock on Wednesday morning, under my bed—I lost them yesterday week in the morning.

DANIEL BECKHAM . I am a police-constable. I took the prisoner into custody—I was going with her and Jane to the Justices—I heard Jane tell the prisoner, it served her right, she would be found out—she said, "I know that, but Jane knew I stole them".

THOMAS BURFORD . My father keeps a pawnbroker's shop, near Brentford. On Saturday morning, these shoes were pawned by Jane smith—while she was there I went and saw the prisoner at the door—I am sure she is the same person.

Prisoner's Defence. Jane brought me 9d. And said that was all she could get for them, and when she came before the Magistrate there was 1s. on the ticket; I had never seen it; she said she tore it up.

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined One Week.

OLD COURT.—Friday, September 23rd, 1842.

Second Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.

Reference Number: t18420919-2690

2690. FREDERICK PEPLOE was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of May, 1 bridle, value 5s., the goods of Thomas Walker.

THOMAS WALKER . I am an upholsterer, and live in York-road, Lambeth. I have known the prisoner four or five years, and have employed him—on the 1st of May, I went to Smithfield market with him, about three o'clock in the afternoon—I left my chaise in the inn yard, took the horse out, and delivered it to the prisoner with a bridle—I told him to sell the horse for me—I gave him no instruction about the bridle—I never saw him afterwards.

FREDERICK WATFORD . I am a cabinet-maker. I saw the prisoner take the bridle off the horse, lay it on the ground, and put a halter on—I bought the horse for a friend, and took it away, but not the bridle.

Cross-examined by MR. CHARNOCK. Q. Did you see the bridle put into the prosecutor's cart? A. No—I saw it put on the ground—the prosecutor was in the yard at the time.


Before Mr. Justice Wightman.

Reference Number: t18420919-2691

2691. MICHAEL RAGAN was indicted for feloniously killing and slaying Ellen Ragan.

CATHERINE DAVIS . I am the wife of Thomas Davis, of Bainbridge-Street, St. Giles's. The prisoner and his wife lodged in the adjoining room on the same landing—on Sunday evening last, I was going up stairs and saw them inside the door quarrelling—they were both very drunk indeed—the wife was holding the handle of the door—she would not go in—the prisoner was persuading her to come in, several times, and at last he caught hold of her arm to pull her in, and gave her two or three slaps on the head with his open hand—he then let go of her—she staggered and fell within a foot of the stairs—he then gave her a kick on the back, and

threw her down stairs, but I do not think it was with the intention of throwing her down stairs—it was not a violent kick—she was very tipsy, and unable to guard herself—she was in a sitting posture, with her back to my door, and her feet towards the stairs—he only gave her one kick, and she fell immediately, and rolled down all of a lump, all the way to the bottom—he then went into his room—when he was told she had fallen down stairs, he cried bitterly, and said, "O my poor wife"—I went down—there was an old woman in the yard, who sat down on the stairs, and rested her head on her lap—she was taken to the Hospital.

Prisoner, I was just coming out of bed—this woman was not down stairs, she was at another landing with her sister.

MARY MADDEN . I lodged on the same landing with the prisoner and his wife. On Sunday evening, between six and seven o'clock, I was sitting at the door, and the deceased passed by very much intoxicated—she staggered going into the passage—shortly after I went in—as I went to the foot of the stairs, she came down at my feet in a lump—she was quite insensible then—a doctor was sent for from the station, in about a quarter of an hour, and she was taken to the University College hospital.

MART COLLINS . I lodge on the second floor in the same house with the prisoner and his wife. On Sunday evening I heard a scream, I came down out of ray room, and saw the prisoner give the old woman a kick—I do not know that he did it designedly—I was on the banisters, and looked over—she fell to the bottom of the stairs—there was a great crowd of people—when he kicked her, she was lying on the floor in the passage—I do not know whereabouts he kicked her—I never said before that I saw him kick her, and I should not have said it now, if his friends had been civil to me, and not abused me.

THOMAS FULLER (police-sergeant E 14.) The deceased died on the 20th—I apprehended the prisoner the same night—at the station he said he did not push his wife down stairs, that she fell down of her own accord, and that they were both in liquor.

JOHN TOPHAM . I am house-surgeon at the University College hospital—the deceased was brought there on Sunday evening last about seven o'clock—she was perfectly insensible, had lost all power of motion, and was labouring under symptoms of injury of the brain—she vomited repeatedly—the contents of her stomach smelt strongly of spirits—she died on Tuesday evening at ten o'clock, from laceration of the brain in two places—I made a post-mortem examination on Wednesday morning—there were two bruises on the scalp, a great effusion of blood over the whole left side of the brain, and two lacerations of the brain—a fall down stairs would occasion such appearances, or any blow with an obtuse body on the head.

Prisoner's Defence, On Saturday night I came home, and gave her a good bit of money—on Sunday she was out all day drinking—I was in bed, and she was going out again about six o'clock—I got out of bed and laid hold of her arm—she pulled against the banisters, pulled from me, and went down stairs with that force—I never pushed or touched her. NOT GUILTY .

Before Mr. Justice Cresswell.

Reference Number: t18420919-2692

2692. MICHAEL ROWAN and THOMAS ALLEN were indicted for feloniously assaulting Moses Allen on the 4th of September, putting him in fear, and taking from his person, and against his will, 1 watch,value 4l. 4s., his property; and immediately before, at the time of, and after the said robbery, beating, striking, and using other personal violence to him.

MOSES ALLEN . I am clerk to Mr. Richards, of New City Chambers-On Sunday evening, the 4th of September, I was going along Whitechapel, and at the end of George-yard I was taken hold of by the collar of my coat, dragged up George-yard, and knocked down at the end of it—I was tripped up, and thrown violently on my back—I am not certain whether the person came up to me behind or before—he was at my side when he tripped me up—he caught hold of my collar, and threw me on my back—I am not quite certain whether there was more than one person then—there was two when I was down—one put his hand on my mouth while I was down, the other tore open my coat and waistcoat, and with force took away my watch, which was suspended by a guard from my neck—it was a silver, double-cased watch—the guard was quite broken—they both immediately ran off—I cried out for a policeman—my head was cut very much, and I was very much hurt on my loins, so much so, that I could not rise for several minutes—that was from no other violence than the fall—when I got up there was a little boy standing, who saw the whole transaction—a policeman came up—I got up and went to the station with him and the boy—on the Friday following I saw the prisoner Rowan in custody—I cannot swear to his being one of the persons that attacked me, but I believe him to be the person whose hand was on my mouth, for I felt his jacket rough—I have some slight knowledge of seeing him at the time—my hat was rather over my eyes—I did not see Allen till last Wednesday—I am of opinion that he is the man that took my watch—I am confident of that—he stood in front of me, wrenching at my waistcoat—I had an opportunity at that time of seeing his person—the place was not very light—there was no gas near it—I have no doubt of his being the man—I believe I saw the prisoners in a public-house before the robbery—I am not quite certain, but they are like the men I saw there—I was not quite sober at the time this happened—my watch has not been found. Cross-examined by ME. PAYNE. Q. You were very far from being sober? A. No, I was quite competent to take care of myself—this was twelve o'clock on Sunday night—I had been to church in the morning, and was with some friends at night, and had been drinking—I was not very drunk—I do not recollect the policeman passing by an hour before, and cautioning me about my watch when I was with two or three girls—he said he did so—I will not swear it did not happen—I saw Allen in front of me—my hat was over my eyes, but I put it up—the watch-was gone in an instant—I do not recollect that I had seen Allen before that night—I will not swear positively that I saw him in the public-house—I do not know the sign of the house—it is in Whitechapel, at the corner of a street.

Rowan. Q. When you came into the public-house with the officer, he said, "Do you see anybody at all like him?"; and you said, "No" A. I went into a public-house with a policeman on the Friday following—the policeman asked me if there was anybody there like the person that had robbed me—I did not say there was not—he took hold of Rowan, and desired him to get up, and said he was something like him—the officer did not point to him and say, "Don't you think he is something like him?"—he did not ask me if I wished to give him in charge, nor did I say,"It

is no use giving him in charge, for I can't speak to him"—the officer said be should take him on suspicion—before he said that I did not say whether I could or could not speak to him—I said at the Police-court I could not swear to him positively.

HENEY HOWARD . I live at York-row, Cambridge-heath. On Sunday night, the 4th of September, about twelve o'clock, I was in Whitechapel—I go out with physic from a doctor's shop, and was going home after doing my work—I was at the shop till near midnight—I saw two men knock a gentleman down in George-yard—they tripped him up behind, pulled him right up the court, laid him down, and one of them kneeled down and put his hand on his mouth while the other took the watch off his neck—I saw them do it—it was the prisoners—I have often seen them about Whitechapel—Allen sold apples—I have bought apples of him—I had seen Rowan before that night with Allen—one had a corduroy jacket, and the other something like a black coat—I did not do anything when I saw this—I stopped till the gentleman got up, and then went to the station with the policeman, and gave a description of the men—the prisoners, ran away up the court—Rowan tripped the gentleman up, and the other took his watch—I saw Rowan at Lambeth-street-office on the Wednesday after the robbery, and Allen last Friday—I have been there twice to see


Cross-examined. Q. How old are you? A. Eleven—my father is a coal heaver—I am shop-boy to Mr. Tennison, in Whitechapel, and have 2s. a week—I live with my grandmother, in Old Gravel-lane—I had bought apples of Allen, in Whitechapel, about two weeks before—he had a basket with two handles—I have seen him about Whitechapel along with some girls. Rowan. When he came to Lambeth-street he said they were two men with light fustian jackets on. Witness, I said one had a light corduroy jacket on, and one had a coat—I never said they both had light jackets.

WILLIAM BULL (police-constable H 145.) On Sunday night, the 4tn of September, I was on duty in Whitechapel—I heard a noise, went to George-yard, and found the prosecutor had been knocked down and robbed of his watch—he was the worse for liquor, and all over dirt and blood—he was just at the entrance when I came to him, just in the street—he was standing up—I saw a boy there, but did not notice it was Howard till we were on the way to the station—Howard went there with the gentleman and me, and gave a description of the men.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you see the prosecutor in the public house that night, about an hour before? A. No, I saw him a little way from the public-house, with two or three girls, and told him to take care of him self—he said, "All right"—I said, "I don't think it will be all right"—he was drunk then, but not so bad as he was afterwards.

Rowan. Q. Did the boy tell you it was two men in light fustian jackets? A. Yes, one rather more dirty than the other, a dirtier browner colour—the prosecutor did not tell me he had been robbed by a friend he had been drinking with, he said it was a man he had been treating, and he should know him well if he were to see him again—Howard said he should know the men again if he saw them—I asked him if he would call at seven o'clock next night, and meet me, to go to Whitechapel, and see if we could find the parties that robbed the gentleman—he did not come.

Q. Did he not say, last Wednesday, that he never said anything about light fustian jackets at the first examination? A. Yes—he said he had

not said "both," only one—he persisted in saying so after I was called in—I did not hear the Magistrate ask him what he meant by it, nor hear him say he could hardly see in the dark.

CORNELIUS FOAY (police-constable H 98.) I received information on the 5th of September, and on the 9th I saw the prosecutor—he had been confined to his bed till then—I went with him to the Red Lion and Spread Eagle in Whitechapel—there were about ten people in the room—I told the prosecutor to go in and look about him—there were five or six young men about the same age as the prisoners—the prosecutor pointed out Rowan, and said he believed he was one, but be should not like to swear to him—I took him—I saw Howard next day—he gave me a description of two people, and of their dresses, in consequence of which I apprehended Allen at the Founders' Arms, Brick-lane—when I went in he held his head down for seven or eight minutes—I took Howard next day to Lambeth street office, and opened the cell—there were from ten to twelve men there—I asked him to look round, and see if he knew anybody—he looked round, and pointed out Allen, and said, "That is the one that knocked the gentleman down, and the other one held his hand over his mouth"—I do not think Allen heard this—it was said just at the door—he might have done so—on the night of the robbery I was in White chapel from seven to half-past nine o'clock, and saw the prisoners go into the Red Lion and Spread Eagle—I saw them about three times in the street, going in and out of that house, which. is about twenty yards from George-yard—I knew them.

Cross-examined. Q. When you took Allen into custody, did you say any thing to him? A. As soon as he came out of the house I told him I took him for being concerned with Rowan in a robbery—he said be was innocent, he could prove he had been in bed every night at twelve o'clock for the last month.

Rowan. Q. What description did Howard give of the persons? A. He said one had a jacket, and the other a dark coat, and that one was a little taller than the other—he said, at the last examination, that they both had light jackets on—after Bull had been examined, the Magistrate asked him if he had said that both had jackets on, and he said, "Yes, they had."

Rowan's Defence. Last Friday week, about half-past seven o'clock, I was in the Red Lion and Spread Eagle; Foay, two other officers, and the prosecutor, came in and looked round, the officer said, "Stand up," and we all stood up. The prosecutor looked round, and said, "No, I don't see any body here," and was going out; Foay called him back, pointed to me, and said, "Don't you think it looks something like him?" he said, "Why I don't know, I can't say;" he said, "Will you give him in charger?" he said, "I can't say it is him." He said, "I shall take you in charge". I said "Very well;" he said he could prove where the watch was taken to, and what it was sold for; he took me, and next morning he brought Howard to the station; as soon as he saw the policeman putting the hand cuffs on me, he said, "That is him." Howard stated, at first, that it was two men in white jackets; and afterwards, he said one had a black coat on, and I was the other. He denied ever having said that both had white jackets on, till Bull was called in and stated it; and then he said he could hardly see in the dark. The prosecutor told the policeman he

was robbed by a friend he had been drinking with. I would ask the prosecutor if he had been treating me.

MOSES ALLEN re-examined. I am not quite positive whether I had been treating the prisoners that night—I have a slight belief about it—I had been treating somebody—I do not know the sign of the public-house—it was in Whitechapel, much higher up than George-yard—I had no friends with me. MR. PAYNE called

MARY ALLEN . I am the prisoner Allen's mother. On the Sunday night before he was taken he was at home and in bed at twelve o'clock—he went to bed on Saturday night, and was never up till eleven o'clock on Monday—he was in bed all Sunday—he had only one shirt, and that I was washing and mending—he had torn it in fighting—I did not wash the shirt till after six on Sunday night—another son of mine slept with him—he is at work—I cannot say at what hour he went to bed on Sunday night.

COURT. Q.What is the prisoner? A. He sells things in the street, greens and apples, and any thing of that sort—he carries a basket sometimes.

ROWEN— GUILTY . Aged 20.

ALLEN— GUILTY . Aged 22.

Transported for Fifteen Years.

First Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

Reference Number: t18420919-2693

2693. WILLIAM PIZEY was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Charles Poore, about two in the night of the 7th of September, at St. Mary, Whitechapel, with intent to steal, and stealing therein, 20 sovereigns, 10 half-sovereigns, 240 half-crowns, 200 shillings, 200 sixpences; and 1 5l. note; his property.

CHARLES POORE . I keep the Star and Garter, Whitechapel-road, in the parish of St. Mary, Whitechapel. The prisoner was my pot-boy, from the 5th of August to the 7th of September—on the night of the 6th of September, after the prisoner left the house, I went to bed at twelve o'clock, after shutting up the house—I bolted and locked the doors, both back and front, myself, and the kitchen door—the prisoner slept in the next house—I got up next morning at half-past six, and found the premises broken open, the kitchen door had been bored through, as if with a centre-bit, the bolt drawn back, a pane of glass broken in the window, and the lock unfastened—anybody could enter—I bad in the bureau, in the parlour, the night before, a bag, containing between 40l. and 50l. in silver; a cash-box, with 30l. in gold, and a 5l. Bank note—they were all gone, and the cash-box lying on the table.

ANN GORDON . I am the bar-maid. I got up about a quarter after five o'clock, and found every thing as usual, but missed some money out of the till—I did not notice the kitchen door.

JOHN ASTRIDGE . I am a constable of Portsmouth. The prisoner was brought to me there in custody, by a constable—I asked him what he had done with the money he was charged with stealing from Mr. Poore—he said, "I gave 14l. 10s. to the landlord of the White Hart, Portsmouth; I bought a set of clothes for 2l. 6s., and the rest of the money I spent"

JOHN ASTRIDGE, JUN . I belong to Portsmouth, I took the prisoner into custody on the 9th of September, and told him he was charged with robbing his master, in London—he said he knew nothing about London—I took him to his master, and said, "Do you know this gentleman?"—he

said, "Yes"—I conveyed him to the station, and on the road he said "My master called me a rogue and vagabond; I thought he should not call me that for nothing, so I brought in three more, and did what I am taken for; we shared 20l. each; my share was sixteen sovereigns and a 5l. note."

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Ten Yean.

Reference Number: t18420919-2694

2694. JULIA LLOYD was indicted for feloniously cutting and wounding Caroline Atkins, on the 13th of September, upon her right cheek, with intent to do her some grievous bodily harm.

MARTHA PYE . On the 13th of September, about two o'clock at night, I was at No. 13, Newcastle-street, Strand—there was a dispute between Caroline Atkins and the prisoner about a young man—the prisoner struck first—Atkins struck her again—they were both very much in liquor—Lloyd struck Atkins again, and knocked her down, kicked her several times in the passage, and when she began to rise up, the prisoner took knife, and struck her across the right eye with the sharp part of it—I work at the house, and am sometimes there till three o'clock—the eye bled very much—the passage was soaking, and all her things were covered

Prisoner. She took up the knife, and cut my right hand in two places, Witness. I am certain the prisoner took it herself off the table—Atkins went away on Monday night, and has not been seen since.

Prisoner. She took the knife to me first; you were down stairs at the time we were quarrelling, in the parlour. Witness. I was not—Atkins had just had her supper with the knife.

COURT. Q, Might you have been down in the parlour when the quarrel began? A. No, I was in the passage, and they in the parlour—the prisoner's knuckles were cut with her trying to strike Atkins again, she struck her hand against the wainscot—Atkins did not have the knife in her hand—they gave one another several blows—she whipped the knife off the table—the policeman came up, and I saw her throw it down again.

GEORGE HARRISON . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner into custody—she said the other struck her first—Atkins said she did not—the prisoner had one knuckle cut, and another cut across the back of her hand.

ROBERT TEMPLE FRERE . I am surgeon at King's College Hospital. A woman was brought to the hospital on Wednesday, I do not know whom by—she gave the name of Atkins—the policeman was with her—she had a wound just below her right eye, not severe—it might be done by accident in a struggle—it appeared to be cut with a knife.

Prisoner's Defence. I came in about twelve o'clock to supper; she said I was drinking with a friend of hers; I said, "Yes;" she struck me; I returned the blow, and knocked her down; she took the knife off the supper tray, and cut me on my hand; I took it out of her hand, and, being in liquor, cut her.


Reference Number: t18420919-2695

2695. JANE ARNOTT was indicted for feloniously forging and uttering a forged acquittance and receipt for 2s. 8 1/2 d., with intent to defraud Jacob Davis.

JACOB DAVIS . I am a fur merchant, and live in Artillery-place, Finsbury. The prisoner was my cook—I deal with Thomas Cadd for candles and soap

—she was in the habit of paying my bills—I gave her the money to pay this bill of 2s. 8 1/2 d. to Cadd, I am quite certain—she brought me the bill receipted, and said it was paid.

Prisoner. Miss Davis always gave me money for bills, and it was considerably short, and not setting the things down, I intended to pay both bills together.

THOMAS CADD . I am an oilman, and supply goods to Davis—this receipt for 2s. 8 1/2 d. is not in my writing—it is my bill, and has "Paid, Thomas Cadd," to it—I never received the money.

WILLIAM HAMMOND . I am errand-boy to Mr. Davis. The prisoner asked me to put "Paid" to this bill—I did so, and signed the name, by her request—I am sure of that—she said the money was paid.

Prisoner's Defence. I asked him to put "Paid" to it, as I did not want to go out just then; I had not got the money; I intended to pay it directly Miss Davis settled with me; I had paid away the money which was given to me; I was a shilling or two out of pocket; Miss Davis said she would reckon it up again, but did not.

GUILTY . Aged 37.—

Reference Number: t18420919-2696

2696. JANE ARNOTT was again indicted for stealing, on the 15th of August, 1 fork, value 10s.; and 2 spoons, value 4s.; the goods of Jacob Davis, her master.

JACOB'DAVIS. About the 15th of August I missed a fork and two spoons—I had seen them a month or fix weeks before—these now produced are them.

Prisoner. Miss Davis some weeks ago said. "I have been to get some orks out; I lent some silver ones a short time ago, and I am afraid they have returned a plated fork instead of a silver one;" since I have left the prosecutor, they say two forks were lost.

MORRIS LIONEL DAVIS . I am the prosecutor's son. I know these two spoons are my father's—they have engravings on them.

ROSANNA HARRISS . I live with Mr. Davis. Some time ago our cook inquired for a fork and spoon to make something for Miss Davis, which I gave her—she said she should want them for some days, and did not wish Miss Davis to know what she was going to make—I did not see them for some days after—when we had company to dinner I asked for them—she gave me a fork, and told me the spoon was so dirty I could not have it—that night she left—she gave me the fork, but on counting the plate I found one' missing—the plate is under my care—she gave me back a fork which I supposed to be the one I had given her, and an hour after she left.

HENRY WILSON . I am assistant to Mr. Sowerby, a pawnbroker. On the 16th of August the prisoner pawned this fork for 4s.

JOHN NORRIS . I am servant to Mr. Sowerby. On the 13th of August I took a spoon in pawn—I have no recollection who of.

Prisoner's Defence. I used the old spoons, and when I wanted one I asked for it. I know nothing about it.

GUILTY of stealing the fork. Aged 37.— Transported for Seven

(There were five other indictments against the prisoner.)

Reference Number: t18420919-2697

2697. FREDERICK PEPLOE was indicted for embezzlement.

THOMAS WALKER . The prisoner was occasionally in my employ—it was his duty to pay me money if he received it for me—on Friday, the 1st of May, I desired him to take a horse to Smithfield and sell it—if he received 5l. 10s. for it, he has not paid me.

Cross-examined by MR. CROUCH. Q. What are you? A. An upholsterer. I am not a dealer in horses—the prisoner has sold horses for me three times before—he never bought one for me—I fix a price on the horse, and pay him for his time—I did not sell him this horse—I never sold him a horse—he is a cab man, I believe—I was driving the horse in Bridge. Blackfriars-road, in my cart to Smithfield, and met him—I in street, structed him to sell it for me—I went with him to Smithfield and was present while he was showing it, but did not interfere—I did not come up and ask how much was asked for it—I was in the market when he sold it—I saw the people looking at it—I did not hear what they said—I know Watford, who bought the horse, now, but I did not then—I had never seen him before to my knowledge—I am sure I was not in company with another person of that name—I met the prisoner a fortnight to-morrow in the tap-root of the Wagon and Horses—I said, "You are the man I want, you must go to the station with me; I believe you know who I am"—I did not say if he would give me 3l. he should hear no more about it—if I had asked him to give me 3d. I do not suppose he had it—I have known him some time—I always found him honest before—he did not talk about buying the horse for himself—he made no offer for it—I am quite confident of it—as I was going along I said, "Peploe, I want you to dispose of a horse; I want you to walk it up and down and sell it for me"—I took it out of my cart and let him take it into the market—I waited at the public-house where he was to bring the money to me, but he never came.

FREDERICK WATFORD . I was in Smithfield, and bought a horse of the prisoner for 5l. 11s.—I paid him the money—I saw the prosecutor before the offer.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you know the prisoner? A. Yes—I bought the horse of him and nobody else—there was a person present named Clackstone, that I was commissioned to buy for—I did not buy for my self—I struck the bargain for the horse—I act as an agent in Smithfield. GUILTY. Aged 33.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2698

2698. CHARLES WILKINSON, HENRY LAYCOCK , and DAVID PYMER were indicted for stealing, on the 24th of August, 2 carpets, value 25l. 10s.; the goods of Charles Alderton.—2nd COUNT, stating them to be the property of William, Viscount Melbourne; and MARY HILLS for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing them to have been stolen; against the Statute, &c.

CHARLES ALDERTON . I live in Little Chesterfield-street, Marylebone, and have a stable in Cross Keys-mews, leading out of Marylebone-street. On the 24th of August I had two large carpets to beat—I beat them and put them safe into my stable at half-past nine at night—I left the stable quite safe at half-past ten—about twenty minutes before five in the morning I was called by a policeman—two carpets out of three were gone, and the lock of the door was broken—I have seen them since—they are the same.

Cross-examined by MR. CROUCH. Q. Whose carpets are they? A. I had them from Lord Melbourne's—I got them from his house myself.

CHARLES PIGEON . I am a cab-man. On the night of the 24th of August, about half-past eleven o'clock, I was in Great Marylebone-street with my cab—Wilkinson and Laycock came up and told me to come to Cross-Keys-mews—they there put a carpet into a bag—I cannot say whether there was one or two—it was large carpeting—they did not get into the cab themselves.—they walked, as it was so large—they took the carpet oat at Oxford-buildings—I thought there was an entrance another way, and that they would not come back to pay me, but in about an hour after they came back, and Wilkinson paid me—while waiting there Pymer came up and asked me what I was waiting there for—I said I had brought a job from Marylebone-street which I had not been paid for—he was standing about a stone's throw from the place to where I took the carpet—the place I took it from was nearly half a mile off—I did not see anything of Pymer at that time—he was never near the place from where the carpet was taken—he said nothing about the carpet—he only came and spoke to me—I said I was going home very soon if' they did not return and pay me—it was half-past eleven when they came for the cab.

Cross-examined. Q. Where were you when Wilkinson and Laycock employed you? A. In Marylebone-street—there is a thoroughfare to the news—I have known Pymer for four or five years—he is a cab-man—I asked him to jump on my box—there was no person came up but him then—I should say he did not know any thing about the affair—I live in Weston-court, Holborn—Pymer lived in Cross Keys mews—when Wilkinson and Laycock came back and paid me, all four of us went and had something to drink at the Feathers, at the corner of Argyle-street, Regent-street—Pymer asked if I would give him a ride towards Marylebone—there was no conversation between the parties' about the carpet in Pymer's presence, in my hearing—he rode outside with me, and Wilkinson and Laycock inside—we all four went back together.

CHARLOTTE BUSHELL . I am the wife of William Bushell, and keep the Cross Keys, Cross Keys-mews—I know Wilkinson, Laycock, and Pymer by sight. On Wednesday, the 24th of August, about half-past eleven o'clock, they all three came in—they did not wait half a second, I should think, they only came in, turned round, and went out again—they called for a pint of beer—I heard a cab go out of the mews shortly after, but I cannot tell whether it was theirs—they all three went out just at that time—I cannot say exactly the moment they went out—there were several people standing there at the time.

Cross-examined. Q. Does Pymer live in the neighbourhood? A. They live at the back, in the mews—they were not accustomed to use my house of a night—Pymer had not been to my house some time before that—I believe he drives a cab—there was nothing uncommon in his being there.

EDWARD KNIGHT . I am a labourer, and live in Marylebone-lane. On the 24th of August, about half-past eleven o'clock, I was sitting in the bar of the Cross Keys, when Wilkinson, Laycock, and Pymer came in and called for a pint of beer—they went out together, and directly after I heard a cab go down the mews—I did not go outside the door.

Cross-examined. Q. Were there other persons there? A. Two or three others—they were in front of the bar—I was behind.

ELLEN BEARD . I live at the Cross Keys, Marylebone-lane. About half-past eleven o'clock that evening I saw some persons in Cross Keys mews—I do not know how many there were—I saw Wilkinson and

Laycock—I heard them say it was no go—I do not know which it was—I had not heard a cab.

Cross-examined. Q. You did not see Pymer then? A. No—I was examined before the Magistrate—I stated then that I heard this conversation—I only know Wilkinson and Laycock by sight—they do not come to our house.

JANE KING . I live at No. 20, Oxford-buildings, Oxford-street, opposite Marylebone-lane; the prisoner Hills lodges in my house. On the morning of the 25th, about twenty minutes before nine o'clock, I saw Mr. Robinson, who also lodges in the house, go out to his work—I wished him good morning—directly after I saw the police-sergeant go into Bayes's shop—(Bayes is a man who has not been caught)—I turned up stain to my own room—about five minutes before ten I was sweeping the stairs down, when Bayes came to the two pair front, where Hills lodges—he asked her a question—I cannot say what it was, but the answer she made was, "I dare not take anything in; I am not allowed to take anything in or out of Mr. Robinson's room in his absence"—Bayes, I believe, had two carpets in his possession—Hills lodges with Robinson—she has been a servant, and always appeared a very nice young woman—Bayes returned down stain—in about a minute he came up again, knocked at the door, and said, "Mary, if you do not take this carpet I shall be transported; they will not come to look into anybody's place, only mine"—Bayes owns the bottom part of the house, and lets the second-floor front—Hills looked very pale and frightened, and went down stairs—he said he would make her a present—she called another woman, a lodger in the same room—they took the carpet out of the first-floor front, and put it into Mr. Robinson's room, in his absence—directly afterwards she locked the door and went out—she returned at a quarter to one—at one Robinson returned to his dinner—it was as much as I could do to tell him anything about the carpet before the policeman knocked at the door, and the carpet was found in his back-room.

DANIEL VINCER (police-constable D 91.) On the 25th of August, about two o'clock, I was in Wimpole-street, and heard a dispute in Cavendish square—when I got into the square I saw the three prisoners and Pigeon putting the horse to rights in the cab—Pigeon said to Laycock and Wilkinson, "Jump in," and they both got into the cab, and Pymer and Pigeon outside—I followed the cab down to the bottom of Wood stock-street, Marylebone—I stopped on the beat till the man came round, and told him about the cab being there—we went down together—I went over and asked Pigeon what he did there—the cab was standing there—he told me he had brought a gentleman from Covent-garden—I asked if he was waiting to take him back again—he said no, that was nothing to do with me—I took his number, and he drove away—just as I was going away Pymer came up towards the cab in the middle of the road—as soon as he saw me he walked across on to the pavement on the opposite side—I told my brother constable that Pymer was going that way, and he followed and watched him—I do not know how the horse came out of the cab I was not there at the time.

Cross-examined. Q. You did not say anything before the Magistrate about Pigeon saying he had come from Covent-garden? A. Yes, I did—I had seen Laycock and Wilkinson in his cab, and knew he did not come

from Covent-garden—he did not know that—I was the person that was at Cavendish-square.

PATRICK JAMES . I am a policeman. I went to Alderton's stable about half-past three o'clock in the morning—the door was opened.

THOMAS HARRISON (police-constable D 14.) I went to this house in Oxford-buildings—I found Hills and a man named Robinson standing in the second-floor front-room—I looked round and saw another door leading into a back-room—I said, "Who does that room belong to?"—Robinson said, "To tell you the truth, the carpet is there," and I found it there—Hills said it was brought there by a man named Bayes. (Hills received a good character.)



Transported for Seven Years.


HILLS>— GUILTY. Aged 29.—Recommended to mercy,— Confined Ten Days.

Reference Number: t18420919-2699

2699. EDWARD ATKINS was indicted for stealing, on the 28th of March, 2 bottles, value 6d.; and 3 pints of brandy, value 5s. 6d.; the goods of Henry Bradshaw Fearon, his master.

MR. PAYNE conducted the Prosecution,

JONADAB WILLIAM HUNT . I am clerk to Mr. Henry Bradshaw Fearon, a wine merchant, in Bond-street. The prisoner was in his employ—on Monday, the 28th of March, I saw a bottle in one of the cellars, where it ought not to have been, which excited my suspicion—I marked the cork of the bottle, and when the men bail left the cellar, I went and the bottle was gone—I left directions to watch the prisoner—I saw him afterwards, followed him, and took him back to the counting house—I asked him, if he had any bottle or bottles about him—he said, "No, I have not"—I insisted on searching him—he objected, and retreated from the counting house backwards through the warehouse, till he got to the door—I then put my hand on his wrist and right shoulder to prevent his going out—he broke from me, and ran across the street, and back again—I ran after him down a gateway towards Grosvenor-mews, through Sadler's livery-stable-yard, and up Brook's-mews—I there saw him pull a bottle from under his leather apron on the left side, and dash it to the ground—shortly after I saw him pull another out, and dash it to the ground—I got the corks, and one was the cork I had marked—I believe the bottles and brandy to be Mr. Fearon's. Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q.You have got the cork which you yourself marked, after you had seen it placed there? A. Yes—it was a cellar where wine is kept, and not brandy—we have brandy in bottles, they are labelled and are kept in the warehouse up stairs in sight of the counting-house, but I am sometimes absent—the bottle I marked was not labelled as a brandy bottle—I cannot speak to it as Mr. Fearon's—I suppose it to be Mr. Fearon's brandy, because it was on his premises—I examined the bottle that was broken, and it contained brandy—the prisoner gave his address No. 9, Stangate-street, Westminster Bridge—I did not taste any of the brandy—I knew it by the smell—this is the cork that was in the bottle.

WILLIAM RUSSELL . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner into custody

at No. 6, Lower Grove-street, Commercial-road—I received this cork from Mr. Hunt last Thursday week, with another.

Cross-examined. Q. What did the prisoner say he fore the Justice? A. That he had been smuggling it—that he had brought it with him dinner time, and was going to take it to a customer—he said be dashed the bottle to pieces, because he was afraid of being given in charge. GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Four Months.

NEW COURT.—Friday, September 23rd, 1842.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

Reference Number: t18420919-2700

2700. THOMAS SIMMONS was indicted for feloniously assaulting Martha Matilda Bragg, with intent, &c.; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 52.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2701

2701. JAMES COCKRAM was indicted for a misdemeanor; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined Three Months

Reference Number: t18420919-2702

2702. JOHN TURNER was indicted for embezzlement; to which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2703

2703. JOHN WEST was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of September, 1 pair of trowsers, value 6s.; 1 waistcoat, value 2s. 6d.; 1 purse, value 2d.; and 3s., the property of William Peverett; to which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined Three Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2704

2704. JAMES CLARK was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of September, 10 cigars, value 2s. the goods of John Peach, and that be had been before convicted of felony; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 15.— Transported for Seven Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2705

2705. CHARLES MAWBEY and JOHN REX were indicted for a misdemeanor.

MESSRS. ELLIS and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution,

JOHN MUNDAY , I am a smith, and live in Payne-street, Islington. On the afternoon of the 6th of September, I was at the London Spa, at the. corner of Exmouth-street, about ten minutes to two o'clock—I saw Mawbey sitting on the stone kirb—I then saw Rex come out of a baker's shop, and pass something to Mawbey—they both kept in conversation, and went up Rosoman-street—Mawbey kept showing something to Rex which was in his right hand—I followed them to Liverpool-road—they still kept in company—I there saw Langridge, and told him—he took the prisoners into custody, and took a bag out of Mawbey's pocket—he asked me to hold it while he searched the other—I did not see what was in the bag till we got to the station—there was a shilling found in Mawbey's hand.

Mawbey. Q. Where do you work? A. In the employ of Messrs. Scott and Watson—I left them last Saturday night—I worked there a fortnight—I was told that the prisoners had some counterfeit coin in their possession.

Rex. He says I went to Mawbey sitting on a stone, and gave him something, and he said before I gave it to Mawbey on the road at Islington. Witness. This is my signature—(deposition read)—I saw Mawbey sitting on a stone—the other prisoner was in the shop of Mr. Waters, a baker, at the corner of Rosoman-street—I then saw Rex leave Waters' shop, and join Mawbey—they walked away together—I followed them immediately after they had joined company, and saw Rex give something to Mawbey—they were looking at it and talking about it—I followed them on to Liverpool-road.

JAMES LANGRIDGE (police-constable N 407.) I was on duty in Liverpool-road—Munday came to me about two o'clock, and pointed out the prisoners—I followed—I laid hold of Mawbey, took him by his right arm, and asked what he had got in his hand—he told me nothing—I asked him to open his hand and show me—he then said he had a shilling—he opened his hand, and I took it out—I asked if he had any more—he said, "No"—I said he must go to the station—he said no, he had done nothing, and should not go—he then turned. round, and put his right hand into his trowsers' pocket—Munday told me to take care of his hand—I took hold of Mawbey's arm, and he took his hand out of his pocket—I put my own hand into his pocket, and found a bag and seven penny pieces loose—I gave the bag to Munday to hold while I searched Mawbey further, but I found nothing more on him—when I took them to the station I opened the bag, and found in it a small piece of paper, in which was wrapped eighteen bad shillings and two bad half-crowns—I put them on the table, counted them out, placed them in the bag again, and I have had them ever since—I found nothing on Rex.

CHRISTOPHER LAW (police-sergeant N 17.) I was on duty at Islington station on the 6th of September—Langridge brought the prisoners in—Mawbey said he had found the money in the Chalk-road—in the afternoon I was in Hermes-street, going with the prisoners to the police-court, and heard Rex say to Mawbey, "What a fool you was to show that shilling; if you had not shown it we should have been all right"—I am sure he used the word we—Mawbey said, "I have told them I found them in the Chalk-road, and they can do nothing with us."

COURT. Q. How came this to occur in your hearing? A. In walking along, Langridge had one prisoner, and I had the other—Rex was full of talk all the way—I told him to hold his tongue several times—he let as hear all he said.

Mawbey. It is false—no such word passed I can assure you—and as to my sitting down on the stone, I never did.

JAMES LANGRIDGE re-examined. I overheard the conversation—I did not hear it all so perfectly as Law did—I heard Rex say, "If you had not shown that shilling we should have been all right"—and I heard Mawbey say, "I have told them I found them in the Chalk-road, and they can do nothing with us"—this is the first time I have mentioned it,

Rex. Q. Where were we at the time I mentioned these words? A. I do not know the name of the street—we started from the station at Isling-do not green—I should think it is more than a mile from there to the Police-court—they began to talk directly they left the station—they said this about ten minutes after they left—they had been talking before, but I do not know what about—they were about half way between the station and the Police-court—I never mentioned any thing about this till I came here

to-day—I was as close to them as I could walk—they must be aware that I heard it.

COURT to CHRISTOPHER LAW. Q. Where did this conversation occur? A. In Hermes-street—we had left the station about five or six minutes—we had got about two or three hundred yards from the station, and were two or three hundred yards from the Police-court—I think it was nearest to the Police-court—I told Rex to hold his tongue, and after that he told this—I told Langridge at the station that I heard what they said in going—he said nothing to it.

MR. JOHN FIELD . I am inspector of coin to the Mint. These shillings are all counterfeit, and a great many of them are similar to the one found in Mawbey's hand, but they are not all so—they appear to me to be just as they were coined, and have never been circulated—these half-crow are both counterfeit.

Mawbey's Defence. I am entirely innocent; I found the coin in the Chalk-road on the Monday night.

Rex's Defence. I was on my way to Liverpool, and asked this young man, whom I never saw before, if he could direct me to the Liverpool-road; he said, "Yes, I am going that way, I will put you into it;" we were going along, he was showing me this shilling, and asking me if it was a good one; I said I did not know; I was not aware that he had any more; then the policeman came up; he has said a great deal more than he stated before.

MAWBEY— GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined One Year.


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2706. JOHN HEFFERAN was indicted for a misdemeanor.

WILLIAM ABRAHAM . I keep a law-stationer's shop in the Middle Temple. On the 9th of September, between five and six o' clock in the afternoon, the prisoner came for half a quire of paper—I served him—he tendered me a 5s. piece, which I detected to be counterfeit—I asked if he knew it was bad—he said, "No"—I asked who he came from—he said, "Mr. Pontifex"—as I knew Mr. Pontifex, I offered to send our shopman. down with him to ascertain the truth of his statement—he then said he did not come from Mr. Pontifex, but he had formerly been with Mr. Pontifex—I sent for a policeman, and during that time the prisoner said he hoped I should not be too hard with him—I gave him in charge.

GEORGE WARDOUR (City police-constable, No. 325.) I took the prisoner—I searched him, but found no more money on him.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Where did you find him? Mr. Abraham's shop—as I was taking him from Guildhall, he said he had no other means of getting a livelihood, but by passing bad money—this was after he was committed.

MR. JOHN FIELD . This is counterfeit.

GUILTY . Aged 17— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2707

2707. WILLIAM CHECKETTS was indicted for a misdemeanor.

MESSRS. BODKIN and CHAMBERS conducted the Prosecution.

PAUL JONES (police-constable D 87.) I was on duty on Monday evening, the 22nd of August, about half-past six o'clock, at Bishop's-road, opposite the terminus of the Great Western Railway—there was a mob of upwards of 500 persons there—there had been a great number of persons

about there for an hour and a half, or more—at the time I have mentioned, the people were hooting, hallooing, throwing stones, and pelting the police—I was called by my inspector, Mr. Black, to endeavour to disperse a mob in a hollow, and in doing so, I came in contact with the prisoner—I did nothing to him—I went up to the mob and requested them to goon—a party got behind me, and gave me a shove—I fell on the ground, and the prisoner with me—I did not observe him till I was on the ground—he fell first, and I over him—when we were on the ground, the prisoner opened this knife (producing it) in his left hand, and made a hook at me—a kind of sweep, at the bottom of my stomach—he said, "Now you b—, you or I for it"—I saw the knife, and instantly rolled myself away from him—the knife might be within eight or ten inches of me when I rolled away—I cannot say whether it had been in his pocket or in his left hand, but I saw him open it very distinctly, and he cut his finger in opening it—the knife had been sharpened then, and it is to be seen now—the other policeman came up, if he had not I think something might have happened to me, as there were so many persons there, and no other constable was nigh me—Dunkly struck the prisoner on the hand with his staff, and took the knife out of his hand—he was taken to the station.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. How long had you been there that evening? A. I should think near upon two hours—I do not know that there had been a much larger mob there—the mob remained the same as it did—I was directed to disperse some persons who were in a hollow—I had my truncheon in my hand—it did not come in contact with the prisoner's head—I had hold of the two ends of it—when I fell I had hold of it, and fell with it in my two hands—I did not strike any blow—I did not see any wound on the prisoner's head after he got up—his hand was not bleeding—his head was not bleeding—it might be bleeding under his hair—he complained of his head when we went to the station—I looked at his head when he sat down, before I took him to the inspector—I saw him put his hand up, and his finger was bleeding—I did not pull the hair away—I knew I had not struck him—his hand was covered with blood from his finger—the blood started out—he showed me the blood in going along, and the next day at Bow-street—Dunkly had his truncheon out—I do not know whether he was holding it with both his hands—I did not see him till I was down—I was not covering the prisoner entirely—I fell across him—I let go my truncheon with my left hand, and held it tight with my right—I did not lay on the prisoner half a minute—I got off him as quickly as I could—I do not know whether he got the knife out of his pocket or not—it was just as I was getting off him that he made the hook at me.

THOMAS DUNKLY (police-constable D 190.) I was in attendance at Bishop's-road on the 22nd of August—I took the prisoner, and took this knife from him—he was on the ground, and Jones was by the side of him—I had seen him with the knife in his left hand, and I saw him make an attempt to stab Jones, and heard him say, "Now either you or I for it, you b—r"—I struck him on the back of his hand with my staff before I took the knife from him—that was when he was making the thrust—I did not strike any where but on the hand—he was conveyed directly to the station—I did not notice that any thing was the matter with either of his hands—he said he was only fighting for his rights.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you see his head? Yes, I did not notice it—he complained of his head being in pain at the station—he said he had received a blow, but he did not say where—he did not complain before the inspector—his head might have been bleeding without my observing it—when I saw him and Jones on the ground they were as close as they could be—the prisoner had his left hand up—he was more on the officer than the officer was on him—they were lying by the side of each other, touching each other—I had my staff—I did not notice whether Jones had his.

(The prisoner received a good character.) GUILTY . Aged 60.—Of a common Assault.— Confined One Month.

Reference Number: t18420919-2708

2708. The said WILLIAM CHECKETTS and SAMUEL MUNDAY were again indicted for a misdemeanor.


Reference Number: t18420919-2709

2709. WILLIAM BARTON was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of September, 1 truck, value 3l., the goods of James John Thorogate; to which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined One Year.

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2710. JOHN HENRY MORGAN was indicted for uttering, on the 23rd of August, a forged order for the payment of 12l., knowing it to be forged, with intent to defraud Edward Waldron.

MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.

EDWARD WALDRON . I am landlord of the Ten Bells, Church-street, Spitalfields. On the 23rd of August the prisoner came to my house between seven and eight o'clock—I was in the kitchen washing my hands—he came to me, and showed me a cheque—I told him to bring it round to the bar—he asked me to cash it for him—I said it was crossed on the face, and I could not receive the money, it must go through a banker's hands—he said he knew that—I gave him change, and paid it over to Mr. Brown—this is the cheque.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How long had you known him? A. I think not more than a fortnight—he had been a customer at my house two or three different times.

WILLIAM BROWN . I am a cheesemonger, and live in South-street, Spitalfields—I received this cheque from Mr. Waldron, about the 24th of August—I sent it to the house of Murray and Rutter—I put my name on it—here it is.

Cross-examined. Q. Are you sure it was the cheque you received from Mr. Waldron? A. I am quite certain—I never received any other cheque of Mr. Waldron.

THOMAS BALLARD . I am employed in the shop of Mr. Brown. I received a cheque from him, which I paid at Murray and Rutter's, in Whitechapel.

THOMAS RICHARDSON . I am clerk to Murray and Rutter, cheese mongers, in Whitechapel. I received this cheque from Ballard on the 25th of August—I wrote the parties' name that I received it of on the back of it, and sent it to our bankers', Messrs. Grote and Co.

THOMAS WALLACE . I am clerk to Messrs. Grote and Co., bankers, Threadneedle-street. This cheque was received at our house—I took it

to the Bloomsbury Branch of the London and Westminster Bank—I did not get the money for it.

CHARLES SCOLEFIELD . I am a clerk in the Bloomsbury branch of the London and Westminster Bank—Mr. Wallace presented this cheque there—it is signed "Sinclair"—no person of that name banks at our establishment

Cross-examined. Q. What is your department? A. I am a cashier, and there are two others—I know the names of all the customers—there are under one thousand—I swear we have not a customer of the name of Sinclair—money is only paid at the branch where the account is kept—when an account is opened, it is named to the cashiers by the manager—if the manager omits to mention the name, we should refer to the books—the manager is not here—I know the names of the customers—if a cheque is presented, and I know the party has an account, it is paid—if I thought there was no account, I might for satisfaction refer to the ledger-keeper—I have not examined the books to inform myself whether there is such an NOT GUILTY .

Reference Number: t18420919-2711

2711. JOHN HENRY MORGAN was again indicted for feloniously uttering, on the 23rd of August, a forged order for the payment of 6l. 10s., with intent to defraud Daniel M'Carthy.

No evidence. NOT GUILTY .

Reference Number: t18420919-2712

2712. JOHN HENRY MORGAN was again indicted for feloniously uttering, on the 26th of July, a forged bill of exchange for the payment of 43l. 10s., with intent to defraud Thomas Renwick.

MR. DOANE conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS RENWICK . I am a wine-merchant, and live in Rood-lane—I have known the prisoner about twelve or fifteen months. He came to my house about the 26th of July—he brought me this bill of exchange for 43l. 10s.—(looking at it)—he asked me if I would lend him some money on it, as he had got some workmen to pay—I knew that he was opening a public-house—he and his father jointly, I believe—I advanced him 15l. on the bill—I asked him to indorse it—he said he had rather not indorse it, as the bill had been lent to him for a week, and he borrowed this money of me for a week—the acceptance to this bill is "William Hart, King's Arms, Bishopsgate-street, City"—he also wanted a quarter-cask of port wine, and I gave him a transfer for it—that came to 4l. 10s.—I took an I O U of him, which I have here—that was all that passed at that time—about ten days after I saw him again—I said I hoped there was no irregularity about that bill—he said, if I would only allow it to remain a little while, he would pay me the money that I had advanced him, and I agreed to hold it—I held it till the 13th of August, and then I gave it to Barton, the police-inspector—before that I received a note from the prisoner—this is it—I cannot say when I received it, but I suppose on the day it is dated—it is the prisoner's handwriting, I believe—I have seen him write.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q.Do you believe this letter to be his writing? A. Yes—I knew he was going to open a house in Mile End-road,

and he had work-people about there—he gave me an I O U for the money and for the quarter-cask of wine—the money was to be returned in a week—I believe I should have been paid if he had not got into these difficulties—I know he was trying to raise 200l. on the lease of his house.

(Letter read.)—"Saturday morning, August 20th.—Dear Renwick, the time I require is till Monday, three o'clock, when, without fail, you may depend on receiving 20l. certain; perhaps more, but not less than 20l., your kindness and indulgence I shall ever feel grateful for; you will see that this promise shall be kept. Your consent, by bearer, will relieve me much—I will run up to the Conduit this evening. Believe me yours truly and ever grateful, J. H. MORGAN."

WILLIAM BARTON . I am a police-inspector. I received this bill from Mr. Renwick on the 30th of August, with this I 0 U attached to it.

(Bill read.)—"London, 26th July, 1842. Two months after date, pay to my order 43l. 10s., value received. JOHN MAYHEW. "To Mr. William Hart, King's Arms, Bishopsgate street, City.

" Accepted, WILLIAM HART."

WILLIAM HART . I was the landlord of the King's Arms, Bishopsgate-street, City, in July, but I have been out of it a few days. I have known the prisoner ten or twelve years—the signature to this bill is not my writing—I never authorised any person to put my acceptance to this bill.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you business with the prisoner from time to time? A. Yes—I never allowed him to put my name to any bill, nor, after he had done it, justified him in doing it—he had always acted very correctly in previous transactions with me.

(Mr. Woodland, a builder, in Princes-street, Bedford-row, Joseph Shackle, a police-inspector, and William John Banbury, an accountant, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 34.— Transported for Ten Years. (There was another indictment against the prisoner.)

Sixth Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.

Reference Number: t18420919-2713

2713. EDWARD SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of September, 1 comb, value 3d., the goods of William Haycroft, from his person.

JAMES LEWIS ASHMAN (police-constable L 113.) On the night of the 15th of September, I was in the station at Bow-street—the prisoner was there, locked up in a cell with the prosecutor—I heard something in the night, looked through a grate into the cell, and saw the prisoner with a lucifer match alight, and feeling the pockets of the prosecutor, who was lying asleep on the seat—he rubbed him round, put his hand into his trowsers' pocket, and then put his hand into his jacket pocket—I did not see what he took out, as he put out the light—I went in, and asked if he had not been searching the prosecutor's pockets—he said, "No"—I awoke the prosecutor, and asked if he had lost any money—he said he had not—I began to search the prisoner, and he let this comb drop from under his smock-frock.

WILLIAM HAYCRAFT . I was locked up for being tipsy—the prisoner was locked up with me—I was awoke by Ashman—I think I had a comb when I went in, but I do not know whether I had or not, because I was tipsy—I went to sleep there—this is my comb.

Prisoner's Defence. The policeman brought a penny-worth of tobacco; he said "You must not smoke here," but I began to smoke, and a spark went on the man's jacket; I took it off, and this comb lay by his side: I never touched the man's pocket


Reference Number: t18420919-2714

2714. ELLEN COFFEE and CATHERINE SULLIVAN were indicted for stealing, on the 15th of September, 1 loaf of bread, value 4d., the goods of William Bower.

ROBERT M'KENZIE (police-constable B 44.) On the evening of the 15th of September, I was on duty, and saw the prisoners together, coming from Pimlico into Sloane-square—they went into the shop of Mr. Bower, a baker, in Sloane-square—I watched them, and saw Sullivan walk up to the counter, and speak to the young woman—Coffee stood a yard behind her, with this shawl hanging over her arm—I saw her put her arm round a loaf in the window, catch it in her arm, and put it under her shawl—I remained a short distance—Mr. Bower came into the stop—I went in and asked Coffee what she had got—she said, "Nothing"—I lifted up her shawl, and saw this loaf—she said, she bought it somewhere on Chelsea common—on further searching her, I found another shawl in her apron. WILLIAM BOWER. I am a baker, and live in Sloane-square. This is my loaf—the policeman came in and asked Coffee what she had got under her arm—she said, "Nothing"—he lifted her shawl, and took this loaf from under her arm.

Coffee's Defence. I bought two loaves, and left one for my husband to carry home; I never took it.

COFFEE— GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Fourteen Days. SULLIVAN— NOT GUILTY .

Reference Number: t18420919-2715

2715. MARY SIMS was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of September, 4lbs. weight of pork, value 2s. 8d., the goods of William Garland.

WILLIAM GARLAND . I am a pork butcher, in Queen-street, Pimlico. On the afternoon of the 20th of September, I was at the back of my shop—I saw the prisoner leave it—I came in directly, and missed a piece of pork from a dish in the window—I went out and stopped her, about fifty yards off—I asked what she had in her apron—she said, I was welcome to see—I opened her apron and saw the same piece of pork—I gave her in charge—I have seen her at my shop with lucifer matches, but she had not dealt with me.

BENJAMIN BURN (police-constable Z 160.) I took the prisoner—she said she knew it was wrong.

Prisoner. I was in great distress. GUILTY .†Aged 41.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2716

2716. ELIZABETH KELLY, ANN CURTIN , and ELIZABETH ELLWOOD , were indicted for stealing, on the 19th of September, 48 yards of flannel, value 9l. 5s., the goods of Thomas Buckland; and that Curtin had been before convicted of felony.

EDWARD LLOYD . I am assistant to Thomas Buckland, a linen-draper, in High-street, Shoreditch. About five o'clock in the evening of the 19th of September, I saw Kelly and Curtin standing opposite our shop door, looking towards the rolls of flannel, which were placed in a rack by the door—I went to the door, and they passed on—about half-past seven I

saw the three prisoners standing nearly opposite the shop door—I called to the other shopman not to look towards the door—I went behind the counter, and placed myself in a position that I could see their movements and not be seen by them—I saw them move towards the flannel—Curtin caught hold of the roll of flannel and lifted it up—the other two were standing close to her—Curtin then took it off the rack, and she and the other two went off at the same time—I went over the counter, and went after them—I ran after them—the roll was on the pavement, about three yards from the door—I pursued, and took Kelly and Curtin close together, one by one arm and one by the other—I told them they must come back—Kelly ran off, and left her shawl in my hand—I kept hold of Curtin—I called to a gentleman who was going by to take Kelly, which he did, and brought her back—I saw Elwood going on—another gentleman caught her—I sent for a policeman, I gave them into custody—this is the roll of flannel—it has the mark upon it.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Where were you when the flannel went from the door? A. Behind the counter—there was a shawl in the window, but I turned it on one side, and peeped at them—it had been raining in the afternoon—I did not examine whether the flannel was dirty—Kelly was standing by the side of Curtin—I positively swear that Kelly was there at the time.

JOSEPH WATTS . I am shopman to Mr. Buckland. In consequence of what Mr. Lloyd told me I ran out, and picked up the flannel, which had been before in the rack by the door—I went and got a policeman.

PATRICK HOGAN (police-constable H 94.) I took the prisoners—they denied the charge.

Curtin's Defence. He took the flannel out of the rack, and gave it to the policeman.

Elwood's Defence. I was standing at the window, looking at the shawls—I was going to buy one, and the man came and took me.

GEORGE KING (police-sergeant H 16.) I produce a certificate of the prisoner Curtin's former conviction, which I got from Mr. Clark's office—(read)—she is the person.

KELLY— GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Six Months. CURTIN— GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years. ELWOOD— NOT GUILTY .

Reference Number: t18420919-2717

2717. JANE MEDHURST was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of September, 1 scarf, value 1l., the goods of Margaret Hannah Keavin.

MARGARET HANNAH KEAVIN . I am a widow, living in St. Martin's lane. On the 13th of September I was sitting at work in ray master Mr. Wood's front parlour, in North-street—the prisoner came in between six and seven o'clock for some work—it was not ready—she was told to sit down on a chair behind me—she left at twenty minutes to eight—when she had been gone about ten minutes I missed my scarf from the back of the chair—in about five minutes I received information from a little boy—there was a young woman sitting opposite me at work, but none behind me—the scarf has not been found—it was safe when she came in.

THOMAS WOOD . I am seven years old. I was in the back parlour at my father's house on the night this shawl was lost—I was in the dark—I saw the prisoner go into the parlour—she kept on pulling the scarf, which was hanging on the back of the prosecutrix's chair—the scarf dropped—

she picked it up, and put it under her cloak, and in five minutes after she went away with it—I told the prosecutrix about it.

JOHN SIMS HANCOCK (police-constable E 38.) I took the prisoner between eleven and twelve o'clock the next day—I called about ten at her lodging, and knocked—she answered me—I asked if Miss Medburst lived there—she made no answer—at the same moment the landlady came out into the area, and I asked her if Miss Medhurst lived there—she said there was no such person in the house—I went again, and took her at half-past eleven o'clock.

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Three Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2718

2718. CHARLES ROBINSON and WILLIAM IVES were indicted for stealing, on the 15th of September, 1 cullender, value 1/2 d.; 1 saucepan, value 1/2 d.; and 6lbs. weight of kitchen-stuff, value 8d.; the goods of John Jackson; and that they had been before convicted of felony.

THOMAS HEN WELL . I live with my father, in St. Pancras-fields—John Jackson lives in the next cottage. At half-past five o'clock on the morning of the 15th of September I was in my father's garden—I saw the two prisoners coming by—they stopped, just at the corner of the gate of Jackson's yard—Ives broke in the gate, went in, and took the fat, the saucepan, and cullender off the pig tub by the back door—Robinson was standing outside. five or six yards from the fence—I then saw Ives come out with the cullender and saucepan in his band—Robinson came to him, and took them from him, emptied the fat from the cullender into the saucepan, and chucked the cullender into the ditch—Robinson took the saucepan into his hand, and they both went away together—I ran round another way, and met them—I saw a policeman, and he took them—I knew them very well by sight about Somers-town—they told the policeman they were going, to work in the brick fields.

JAMES SHAY . I am a policeman. About five o'clock that morning Henwell called me—I went with him into the King's-road, and met the prisoners together—Henwell pointed them out—I told them I took them for stealing the cullender, saucepan, and fat—they denied it—I took them down to the place where the fat was taken from, and then to the station—I found the cullender in the ditch.

JOHN JACKSON . I live in the cottage dose to Henwell. I collect fat to sell again—I had some in a cullender and saucepan on the top of a tub by the pig-sty—the policeman came, and I missed my fat, saucepan, and cullender—these are them.

Robinson's Defence. I was coming along, and met Ives; he came across to me, and said, "Have you seen my father's donkey?"—I said, "No"—we went on, and the policeman stopped me.

Ives' Defence. We both met the boy, and he said the same to us both; he brought the policeman, and took us both; they found nothing on us,

MARTIN KING . I am a policeman. I produce a certificate of Ives' former conviction, which I got from Mr. Clark's office—(read)—the prisoner is the person.

FRANCIS MUNTER . I am a policeman. I produce a certificate of Robinson's conviction, which I got at Clerkenwell Sessions-house—(read)—the prisoner is the person.

ROBINSON— GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Twelve Months.

IVES— GUILTY . Aged 15.— Transported for Seven Years.—Convict Ship.

Reference Number: t18420919-2719

2719. JAMES SUTTLE was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of September, 1 spoon, value 5s., the goods of John James Purnell.—2nd COUNT, stating it to be the goods of George Gibbs.

WILLIAM WAGG . I am assistant to John Creed Dexter, a pawnbroker in Union-street, Spitalfields. On the 19th of September the prisoner came and offered a silver salt-spoon to pledge for 4s.—I observed a crest on it, and asked him about it—he said it was his own, that he had bought two of them for 10s., and he had had them about three months—I gave information—I returned in five or ten minutes, and gave the spoon and the prisoner to the police-officer.

THOMAS BURCHELL . I am a policeman. I went to Mr. Dexter's shop—the prisoner was given into my charge—I asked where he got the spoon—he said he bought two of them of a man in the street, and had had them about three months—I found twenty-three duplicates on him.

GEORGE GIBBS . I am a watchmaker. The prisoner worked in ✗ shop—this spoon was brought to me by Mr. John James Puraell to have the bowl regilt—I put it on my board on Friday, intending to send it out on Saturday—I was out from twelve to nine o'clock at night—the prisoner did not come to work on the Monday or Tuesday—on Wednesday morning Mr. Purnell came, and said, "Where is my spoon?"—I said I had not sent it out—it was then shown me by the policeman. Prisoner. There are more spoons like that.

GUILTY .— Confined Four Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2720

2720. SARAH CHADWICK and ANN BARROWCLIFT were indicted for stealing, on the 2nd of September, 1 purse, value 6d.; and 7 sovereigns; the property of Joseph Helps, from his person.

JOSEPH HELPS . I am a boatman at Pickford's wharf, and live at Foleshill, near Coventry. On the night of the 2nd of September I was at the Windsor Castle, in the City-road—the prisoners came in after I had been sitting there some time, and asked me to treat them with some gin—I did so—we all drank—I was tipsy when I went there—I got sick there, and went out—I had seven sovereigns in a leather purse, and some silver in my pocket at half-past eleven o'clock—Marsh afterwards came and told me something, and I missed my money—I did not see it again.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. What had you been about in the early part of the evening? A. I had been having beer all the day—I was pretty drunk when I went to this place, but I know I had my money, because I always keep it in my left hand pocket—I felt the purse at half-past eleven o'clock—I began drinking about seven in the morning—after I had been sick, I came back to the house, and did not give any more gin to any body—I will not swear I did not.

ROBERT MARSH . I am a boatman, out of employ. I was at the Windsor Castle, between eleven and twelve o'clock—I saw the prosecutor, and the two prisoners drinking together—the prosecutor seemed to be very tipsy—he came out of the Castle, went to the fence, and seemed to be very sick—I saw Chadwick come out, and followed him—she put her hand into his left hand pocket, and took out a purse—I could not tell what it contained—she gave it to Barrowclift—she opened the gate, and went out, was out a few minutes, then came back—Chadwick then said to the prosecutor, "Come and let us have a glass of gin together at the City Arms"—he said yes—Barrowclift came back, and they took him to the middle

of the bridge, and then they ran away—I then went and told him what I had seen—I did not see any policeman, and did not give information till the next morning.

Cross-examined. Q. How near were you when Chadwick handed the purse to Barrowclift? A. I sat close to them—I did not lay hold of them, because there were three others in the same party—one was a man—he sat close against Barrowclift—I never was inside Warwick jail, or in any prison—I do not know a woman named Mills—it is about five weeks since I had regular employment—the man who sat next Barrowclift went out soon after she went—I did not tell the Magistrate about a man being there—I told the policeman, and showed him the man—I was taken op at Birmingham for being drunk, and had to pay 5s.—I was not imprisoned for a month—I never was charged with robbing a man.

HENRY CHAMBERS . I am a police-constable. I took the prisoners about eight o'clock the next morning—they were both sober—I have not found the purse or money.


Reference Number: t18420919-2721

2721. JAMES DELIVETT was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of September, 1 looking-glass and stand, value 1l. 10s., the goods of Morris Thomas Knevitt.

MORRIS THOMAS KNEVITT . I live in South-street, Islington. On Tuesday evening, the 16th of September, I came from my back parlour at half-past nine o'clock—I observed the window open, and the prisoner with his arms through—I saw his white coat—I went out of the door instantly, and saw him a little way on, running; I pursued, and he was taken a very short distance off—as I returned I found this looking-glass and stand in the ditch—it is mine, and had been on a table under my parlour window—the prisoner said, I was mistaken—this is my glass.

WILLIAM HART . I stopped the prisoner, running towards the top of the street—he had nothing with him.

ELIZA PARKER . I am the wife of William Parker. I was in my shop about a quarter after nine o'clock that night—I heard a cry of "Stop thief," and saw the prisoner running—I saw him throw something from him into the ditch, but I could not see what it was—I saw this looking-glass taken from the same part of the ditch.

JOHN MORLEY . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner—he said he heard the cry of "Stop thief," and ran to see what it was. GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Four Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2722

2722. ANN SULLIVAN was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of September, 1 microscope, value 20s., the goods of Edmund Connor.

EDMUND CONNOR . I am a farrier, and live in Bell-alley. About two o'clock, on Tuesday the 16th of September, I locked my room, and went out—I came back about half-past five, and found my door broke open, and missed my microscope, two shirts, some crockery off the table, and an oil painting off the mantelpiece—this is my microscope—it was on the shelf when I left the room.

MARY CRAWLEY . I am the wife of William Crawley, a music printer, in Bell-alley. I saw the prisoner go up the court where the prosecutor lives, with the microscope in her apron, and the brass of it sticking out.

Prisoner. Q. Can you swear it was me? A. Yes.

JEREMIAH HAYES (City police constable, No. 153.) I took the prisoner

JOSEPH GIBBS (City police-constable, No. 139.) I found this microscope in Golden-lane, in the water-closet.

Prisoner's Defence. I was cleaning my mother's room—I heard the policeman come in, and I stopped—the prosecutor came and said I was the person; Crawley said she did not see me take the things.

MARY CRAWLEY re-examined. I knew the prisoner from her being in Golden-lane—she lives in Angel and Porter-court—I am sure it was her.

Witness for the Defence.

FANNY SULLIVAN . I am the prisoner's mother—I do not know where she lives; she goes to an artificial flower maker's to get her living; I live in Angel and Porter-court, at the back of No. 44, Golden-lane; on the 16th, the prisoner was going to clean my place; I was at home all the day; my daughter just went out for a moment; I had not missed her when the policeman came, and asked me for her; she went out between two and, three; she was out when the policeman came, and the policeman was not gone three minutes when she returned.


Reference Number: t18420919-2723

2723. JOHN SELWOOD was indicted for embezzlement.

MARY ANN DYKE . I am the wife of John Dyke, who keeps the Vine tavern, Mile End-road. The prisoner was my waiter—he was employed to carry out wine, and receive the money for it from the customer—he should have brought the money to me—on the 16th of June, I sent him with two gallons of wine to Mr. Muhn, King David-lane, Shadwell, and two dozen of wine to take to Mr. Ansell, a surgeon, in Bow-road—I gave him bills and expected the money—he returned in the afternoon, and said, if he called the next day Mr. Muhn would pay him—the next day he asked me twice to let him go and get the money for the wine—I said "No, I am not afraid of the money"—on the Saturday he left—on the 12th of August, I saw Mr. Muhn at our house—he sent in an order for wine, and I sent in the bill of 18s. 6d.—I spoke to my husband about it—he gave directions to the policeman—I never saw the prisoner again till be was in custody.

MICHAEL MUHN . I am a sugar refiner, and live in King David-lane. Shadwell. The prisoner brought two gallons of ginger wine, on the 16th of June, and the bill of 18s. 6d.—I paid it him, on account of Mr. Dyke—he put this receipt on it—I saw him write it—I am sure I paid him—(Read.)

JAMES HAMS . I am a policeman. I looked after the prisoner for about a month—I found him on the 15th of September on Clerkenwell-green—I told him I wanted him for embezzling 18s. 6d., for some wine he had taken for Mrs. Dyke's to Mr. Muhn—he said he had heard of it, as he met Harry, who is the waiter at Mr. Dyke's—he said there was a dispute about it, and he should have called at Mrs. Dyke's, but he was so dirty, and he meant to go the following day, but had not—he had paid the nione/, on his return to Mrs. Dyke.

MARY ANN DYKE re-examined. The prisoner never paid me, he said he had not been paid.

Prisoners Defence. I brought the money to Mrs. Dyke; I never hid myself. I wanted to go with the policeman to Mrs. Dyke's; he said

could not take me. I left entirely on their account. I was in the house several times after that.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY. Aged 23.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury,— Confined Four Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2724

2724. JOHN THOMAS was indicted for embezzlement; to which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined Twelve Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2725

2725. ELIZA SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of September, 1 shawl, value 7s., the goods of Fanny Davis.

FANNY DAVIS . I am a servant out of place. On Monday afternoon, the 19th of September, I was at my lodging—I hung a shawl on the banisters, opposite my bed-room door between three and four o'clock—I did not miss it till next morning—at five on Wednesday evening I met the prisoner in High Holborn, near St. Giles's-church, with my shawl on—I pointed her out to a policeman, he stopped her—she said it was not mine, it was hers, that she bought it at Greenwich, two years ago—I asked if she would go to my lodging, and there were plenty of persons there that knew it—it was then taken off her—she said she would not like to part with a thing she bought and paid for—this is my shawl, there is no particular mark on it—but I know it, from having worn it, and by a little stain in front—I will swear to it.

GEORGE GEE . I am a policeman. I was in Broad-street, St. Giles's—the prosecutrix pointed out the prisoner to me—I called to her, and went with her with the prosecutrix—I told the prisoner that the prosecutrix had suspicion that it was her shawl—she said it was her own, she had bought it at Greenwich two years back—I went with her to the prosecutrix's lodging—there were three women there—they looked at the shawl in the prisoner's presence, and said it was very much like the prosecutrix's—I took the prisoner to the station—she gave her address," No. 14, Coal-yard, Drury-lane," with a woman named Esop—I went there, it was a black smith's shop—I could find no such person.

Prisoner's Defence. She stopped me, and said if I gave her the shawl, she would do nothing further. I said I should not give up what I had paid for. I had never been in the house before; I bought it two years ago at Mr. Kershaw's; and the first day I put it on I tore it.


OLD COURT.—Saturday, September 24th, 1842.

Third Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.

Reference Number: t18420919-2726

2726. JAMES CLIFF and GEORGE WARBOYS were indicted for stealing, on the 14th of September, 2 bushels of a mixture of oats, beans, and chaff, value 1s. 6d., the goods of Henry Gray, the master of Cliff; and WILLIAM HAYDON , for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing them to have been stolen; against the Statute, &c.

CHARLES HAGAR . I am a policeman. On Wednesday the 14th of September, about eleven o'clock in the morning, I saw a cart, with "Henry Gray, Barking," on it, and a sack in it, stop opposite the Cape of Good Hope,

opposite Limehouse church—I saw Warboys get on the cart, and saw Cliff at the same time, standing by the side of the cart—Warboys threw the sack off the cart, and drew it a little way towards the Cape of Good Hope—he then walked towards the horses, came back, and drew the sack to the house—Cliff walked away—Warboys emptied the contents of the sack into an empty sack which he had there—Cliff was by the side of the cart all the time—he then walked into the house—I remained there ten minutes or a quarter of an hour, and then saw Haydon in conversation with Warboys—they walked towards where the sack was placed-Haydon put his hand on it, felt it, and pushed it towards the house—Warboys went to the horses, and Haydon went into the public-house—Cliff afterwards came out, and went away—Warboys went towards the house—I left Sheen, another constable, in charge of the sack, and went after Cliff and the cart—I asked him if he had lost any thing from his cart—he said no—I asked if a boy had not been up in his cart, and stolen a sack off—he said no, he had no sack on his cart—I took him to the station—the other prisoners were brought there, and the sack—I examined it, it contained a mixture of oats and beans, and chaff.

Cross-examined by MR. CHARNOCK. Q.Did you read the name on the cart? A. Yes, I recollect it very well—I had seen it coming down the road before—I knew Cliff very well—Warboys emptied the contents of the sack on the side of the public-house—Haydon was not there then-all that Haydon did was to have some conversation with Warboys, feel the sack, push it against the side of the house, and walk away—that was the reason I gave him into custody—he was the other.

THOMAS SHEEN (police-constable K 187.) I received Warboys in charge from Hagar, with the sack, while he went after the cart—I asked him what he threw the sack out of the cart for—he said he did not throw it, and did not know any thing about it—I remained there till Hagar cam back, and then took the sack and Warboys to the station.

HENRY MONK . I am watchman to Mr. Henry Gray, a farmer at Barking—Cliff was in his employ—he went away on the Wednesday morning, about a quarter after two o'clock, with three horses in the cart—I carried the provender down, and gave it him in the cart—there was chaff, oats, and beans—he took it on the cart—he was to go to Spitalfields market—the provender consisted of this sort of stuff—there are some flags cut up in it, which is usual with persons who have marsh-land, which my master has.

Cross-examined. Q. How long have you known Cliff? A. Between thirty-seven and thirty-eight years—he always bore a very good character—he has been on and off in Mr. Gray's employ ten years—I cannot say how much chaff he took with him—he put it up himself out of the chaff and corn-bin—I saw him do so—other farmers have marshy land, and pos flags into their chaff—I cannot swear to this—I cannot say what quantity Cliff had—he was to come back at three o'clock in the afternoon—he had only about sufficient food for the three horses—the sack was not full.

GEORGE GRAY . I am the son of Mr. Henry Gray, of Barking. These oats, corn, beans, and chaff are like my father's—I can swear to the beans—I know the sack by a hole in it—I have seen Cliff with it—it is not

my father's.


Reference Number: t18420919-2727

2727. JOHN SMITH was indicted for a misdemeanor.


NEW COURT.—Saturday, September 24th, 1842.

Sixth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

Reference Number: t18420919-2728

2728. JACKEDU was indicted for assaulting John Cooper, on the 5th of September, with intent, &c.—2nd COUNT, for a common assault.

GUILTY on the 2nd Count. Aged 21.— Confined Four Months. Penitentiary.

Reference Number: t18420919-2729

2729. HENRY WHARTON NOTT, JOHN SAMUEL CRISPIN , and LUCY SMITH, alias Louisa Knight, were indicted for a conspiracy.

MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the Prosecution.

SIMPSON NOKES . I am in partnership with Mr. Usher; we carry on business in Fetter-lane, under the name of Everett and Co., as manufacturers of the Premier Blacking. On Thursday, the 25th of August, the prisoner Nott came to our house—he said he came to order some blacking—I took down his order for three dozen of the large size, three dozen of the second size, and six dozen of the small size—I asked his name—he said Adams, or I asked what name, and he said Adams—I understood his name was Adams—I said, "Where?"—he said, Holy well-street, Strand"—he said, "I am going to open a shop there"—I said, "In what line?"—he said, "A hoot and shoemaker"—I said, "Shall I give you the invoice now?"—he said, "I don't know"—I said, "Do you mean to pay for it now?"—he said, "No"—I took the order down, and said, "Well, then, the invoice will be sent receipted with the goods"—the goods were sent on the following day.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. You understood from the conversation that he was Mr. Adams? A. Yes, certainly—I did not see Nott next day—I do not think it was he that said the invoice was to be sent with the goods—the blacking was worth about four guineas—I never saw Mr. Adams.

WILLIAM SAMUEL ALLEN . I am carman to Messrs. Everett I took the blacking to No. 20, Holywell-street—I saw the prisoner Smith and a man there—the shop was shut, but the shutters were down—it was about five o'clock in the afternoon—I delivered the goods and presented the bill to Smith—she handed it to the man who was there—Smith told me Mr. Adams was just gone out, but he would be in very shortly, and the man repeated the same words—Smith said Mr. Adams would call in the course of the evening and pay for it, or before ten the next morning, and the man repeated the same words after her—the man said they were going to open the shop on the morrow morning, and he wished me to take the receipt off the bill—I said no, I would take the bill back—I left the goods—Smith said I need not be afraid of the money, for Mr. Adams was a very wealthy man—I went there again the next morning, which was on the Saturday—Smith then said the goods were in the shop, but Mr. Adams had not returned—I went again on the Monday following, and could not get

into the shop, but I saw Crispin and Smith—Crispin said I need not be afraid of the money; he would go to the firm and make that all right—Smith afterwards told me that Adams was the man I saw when I took the goods, but that she did not know it at the time.

JOHN WILCOX . I am in the employ of Messrs. Everett, of Fetter lane. On Tuesday, the 30th of August, I received this note by the hands of the prisoner Crispin—he said Mr. Adams had given it to him—(read)—"Dear Sir, In consequence of the misconduct of Messrs Everett's man in calling and making such a disturbance in the street, I shall decline opening your shop; therefore I send you the key"—Crispin said he had let the shop to Adams; that he had taken it in the first instance for him-at self, but he could not get goods as he thought he should; and having been some expense, and the rent coming shortly due, he had let it to Adams at 30s. a week; he had paid him one week's rent, and there was another due—he said he had no reference at all with Adams, and he should be very glad to find him, so as to get his rent—he did not offer to help me to find him.

Cross-examined. Q. Did he not say he should be very happy to assist in finding Adams as he owed him 305. more? A. Yes, I think it was so. I did not see Nott at my master's the next day.

MICHAEL ATKINS . I live in Durham-place west, Hackney-road. The prisoner Crispin occupied a house of mine, No. 20, Holy well-street, Strand,—he took it some time previous to Lady-day—the rent was to commence on Lady-day—I cannot tell how long he lived there—I gave him some time to put the windows in, and he got a man to put them in for him—I had had a very bad tenant there before—Crispin referred me to some person in Doctors' Commons, a Mr. Steel, I believe, and I received this letter answering my inquiries—(read)—"Knowing Mr. Crispin, who was lately a tenant of mine in the country, I can have no hesitation in saying that anything he promises or engages will be paid and attended to—he has paid me, and I entertain a high respect for him"—I went about this person but could not see the man—I have not got my rent of Crispin—I have not got my house, and do not know who has—I suppose it is some of the parties in connexion with Mr. Crispin.

Cross-examined. Q. Was not the house taken on the 2nd of June, and the rent to commence at Midsummer? A. Yes, I believe it was, I made a mistake—what he has laid out on the place was for the shop front and so on—I have seen the man's bill and I think it is about 4l.—but it had cost me nearly 100l. previous to that—he did not put the shop front in—he put some glass in—I have been there two or three times and was very much astonished that it was not opened as a boot and shoe shop. JOHN DALE. I am an ironmonger, and live in Chiswell-street. On the 27th of August a person calling himself Mr. Adams, came to my shop—I have not seen him since—I did not attend to him myself, but I just caught sight of his face as he was in the show-room—he was a good-looking man fresh-coloured, and had rather a round face—he was stooping when I saw him—he looked out four sets of fire irons, some fenders and stoves tope sent next morning—after he was gone I inquired who he was, and had the name and address given me—I think it was, "No. 21, Holywell-street"—I went the next morning with the fire-irons, and to measure for the stoves, with my porter—Crispin opened the door—I requested to see Mr. Adams—he

said he was not at home but would be in shortly—after I had spoken to Crispin, Smith came in—I said to Crispin, "I have come to measure for some stoves in this house, by direction of Mr. Adams"—I went into the parlour to measure for the stoves there—there were two persons in that room, but neither of the prisoners—Crispin said, the stove in that room was to be a register stove—I said, "What is Mr. Adams going to open this shop as?"—Crispin said, "As a shoe warehouse"—I said, "He has been in business before, I presume"—Crispin said, "Yes, in the country"—I said, "What part?"—to which I got no answer—I then said to my man," These fire-irons are too good for this place, take them back again"—Crispin said the fenders were expected to be brought that morning—I said, "Surely you can't want fenders before the stoves"—I then said, "Give my compliments to Mr. Adams, and tell him I can't think of sending these things without he gives me two respectable securities or a deposit"—I went home and sent no stoves.

Cross-examined. Q. Smith did not take any part in the conversation? A. No.

SAMUEL MORBY . I am in the employ of Mr. Willis, a plumber, of Essex-street, Strand. I was employed to repair the house in Holy well-street, for Crispin—I saw him, and he told me he was going to open it as a shoe shop—I was referred to some publican in the neighbourhood—the shop was fitted up and the bill is 4l. 10s. 7d.—I do not see any chance of getting the money.

JAMBS AUGUSTUS BROOKS . I live in Hosier-lane. On the Saturday previous to Adams and Nott opening the shop in Holy well-street, I was at the Queen's Head, Red Lion-square—(Crispin had opened it before, and I had been there when it was in his possession)—I had been at Mr. Maton's, the Sugar Loaf, in Bell yard, Fleet-street, and we adjourned to the Queen's Head—I had been introduced by Mr. Nott to Henry Adams, in Bell-yard, Fleet-street, four or five weeks previous to the opening of the concern—Mr. Adams, I should say, is thirty-two or thirty-three years of age, a little taller than I am, with sandy whiskers, and, as near as I recollect, brown hair—he told me he was employed by Mr. Smith, down at Bristol, for eight years, as a ship-joiner, and Mr. Nott stated he was a respectable man, and worked for his brother eight years—we had several meetings afterwards, but on the Saturday previous to the opening of the shop there was an appointed meeting, to determine as to what the shop should be opened as—it was to be opened on the Monday or Tuesday following, provided we could get the cards printed, and the name up—Adams asked me what I could suggest best for them to call themselves—I suggested to call themselves general salesmen—it was agreed to call themselves" Colonial Agents and General Shippers"—this was settled when we got to the Queen's Head—Mr. Nott said, "You had better put,' Nott Bene, Manufacturers of the best French Hats'"—I said that seemed an analogous sort of concern, they had better not put that—he said, "Yes, because I am a hat-manufacturer"—I wrote this on the cards for them, by their direction, but I do not think the cards were printed—Crispin was not there at that time, but I knew him before, and had seen him with Adams at the Sugar Loaf two or three times, and had seen him casually, about fourteen months ago, with Mr. Pack, a leather cutter, in Brick-lane, Old-street—on the Friday after the meeting at Red Lion-square, I saw Nott and Adams at the Sugar Loaf, in Bell-yard, Fleet street

—Adams said to me, "We got some blacking in to-day, do you know anywhere where we can sell it?"—I said I knew a party in King. street, Minories, and another in Bishopsgate-street, who would be likely to give a fair price for it—he said, "What do you call a fair price?"—I said blacking was now a drug in the market—I did not sell it, but I saw Martin the next day, who came out of a public-house, where he had been in company with Adams and Nott—Martin told me the blacking was sold—on the Saturday night after the blacking was received, I was drinking with Adams at the Sugar Loaf, and Smith came in—she said, "Harry Adams, I want to speak to you"—Adams said, "There is something up, come out"—we went to the bottom of the court, and there Smith aid there was a b row—there were two policemen and the carman then, and they were going to break in the bulk—she said, "I started the carman off, because I told him the blacking was all there, and Mr. Adams was a highly respectable man"—she said, "I am not going to take all the blame on my shoulders for a lousy 10s., that was all we had"—I said Adams was afraid he would be taken—she said, "Harry Adams need not be afraid of me, I will never split upon him"—Adams told me to go down and see hot it was, and tell them it would be paid on Monday—I asked Adams who ordered the blacking—he said, "Nott did, and when the blacking came I told the carman Adams was just stepped out for ten minutes"—I went to Holy well-street with Smith—I found the shop was shut up—Smith said, "I have told the carman the goods are still on the premises, Mr. Adams is a highly respectable man, and he can get his money on Monday"—I went back to Adams, and said, "There is a row at your place, you can do at you like about going down"—he said, "I shall not go, d the blacking, I wish I had had nothing to do with it; it only fetched a lousy 30s.; Nott went to order it, without saying any thing to me; in fact, I was taken quite at a non-plus"—he said it was sold, and had fetched 30s., and it was divided between him, Nott, and Mr. Crispin—Crispin told me the reason he abandoned Adams was, that Adams said he had taken it, and could do as he liked; and said, "I am going to put up my name on Monday, and make it look bona fide;" and he said, "What is to come in is to be divided between Nott, Adams, and me"—Crispin stated he had got all he could get, he could get no more, and now there was a stink about the sashes and stoves that had been measured for; he could go on no further on his own account, and Adams must do what he could.

Cross-examined. Q. How long have you lived in Hosier-lane? A. Not long—when before the Justice, I lived in Wentworth-street, White chapel—I do not think there is a number to the house—I think it was No. 26—it is next door but one to the Cross Keys beer-shop—it is a lodging-house—I sometimes buy goods on commission, and sometimes buy and sell on my own account—I and my boy go out sometimes to sell combs and knives to those who sell them again—I do not keep a shop now—I had a tobacco-manufactory of my own in the Minories and Tower-hill—I also kept a coffee-shop in Bishopsgate-street, and I kept a general shop—a grocer's and cheesemonger's—I was once in the Computer, and once in the Queen's Bench—that is all that I remember—the reason I was in the Computer, was, my wife in my absence ordered some goods in the way of my business, when I kept the coffee-shop—they sent me to the Computer—I was taken before the Lord Mayor, who said I was very

unjustly detained—I was sitting in a public-house, and was taken to the Queen's Bench, and you were my counsel, and Mr. Petersdorf.

Q, No, I was not your counsel—were you one of the parties charged with conspiracy in the election of Bridge-master? A. I was one of the

parties charged, hut not the party—I was acquitted the first day—I was not the party—there was 25l. given to me by the City Corporation, after being five months in prison—they paid my counsel and attorney's bill besides—I was never at Union-hall in my life, nor at Brixton, or any House of Correction in my life—I was never a witness, or before a Judge or Jury in my life, on my solemn oath—I lived in Hatton-garden as servant to Mr. Carr, an oilman, and was married from there—he had a servant named George Hawkins, a boy whom I recommended to him when I was shopman there—I understood that about a year and a half after I left, Hawkins was tried for a burglary that he committed at his master's, and I believe he was hanged—I do not know that three others were transported for life—upon my solemn oath I was not admitted at King's evidence on that trial, I had nothing to do with it—I lived with Mr. Carr a year and six months—I left him in 1827—it was some time after that Hawkins was tried and executed, but I was at Romford at the time—I was not at the trial, and know nothing about it—for some months afterwards, when I happened to meet his brother in Holborn, he told me about it—his brother lives in Leather-lane, and can be sent for.

Q. Do you mean to swear that you did not agree with this young lad to rob his master, and you yourself was admitted King's evidence? A. I swear, on my solemn oath, I never did such a thing in my life—I knew nothing about it—Mr. Carr lives now in Hatton-wall, and can be sent for in five minutes—I swear I was never charged with stealing a lawn pocket-handkerchief, and committed from Lambeth-street for twenty-one days—I was never charged with pot-stealing, at Union-hall, and sent to Brixton—there is Brooks, an informer, that I have been taken for, but he is taller than I am—I do not know a person named Galloway, nor Hall, at the London Docks—I never had any wine transactions at the London Docks—I never bought any wine in my life—I was never in any concern of obtaining wine and not paying for it—I had some conversation with the witness Martyr to-day—I did not brag to him that I would get the prisoners transported—I said I was very sorry for Nott and Crispin—I believed Adams was the man that got them into it—I have had no quarrel with Mrs. Nott—I did not tell Martyr that I had got the case up against Nott, because I had a quarrel with Mrs. Nott, nor that I would use my best endeavours to get Nott transported, and his wife and four children sent to the workhouse—I never mentioned such a word, on the contrary, I said I believed Mrs. Nott to be a most prudent woman, and I was very sorry for her and her children—I did not meet Mrs. Nott, and tell her that I hoped she would not say any thing about my pot-stealing conviction, and about the handkerchief—I never mentioned such a word, and I never was guilty of such a thing—I know Mr. Clark, a jeweller—I was never in trouble for stealing a pair of trowsers of Mr. Clark's—I have sold him many pawn tickets, one was for a pair of trowsers, and he sent his nephew, who took them out of pawn, and brought them to his uncle—I did not get them away from his nephew, nor try to get them—I did not say that the pawn broker had given the wrong trowsers, and get them away, and walk off with them—I said they were lighter than those he had got, but I did not

take them away—I had the conversation which I have stated on Saturday, the 19th or 20th of August—the house in Holywell-street was shut up the self-same day, under a Judge's order—it was not shut up on the 13th—I swear it was on the 19th or 20th, and the bills are up now—it was open when we went up on the Thursday, and Mr. Maton the landlord of the Sugar Loaf, paid for a quartern and a half of gin in the house, and I paid for a pot of porter.

EDWARD HARLEY (police-constable F 56.) I took Smith into custody—she stated at the station that she was servant to Crispin, and had lived with him six months—Crispin said, she had better tell the truth, and then she said a fortnight—she then said, she lived with Mr. Baddely, in Fleet street, and then she said, on Snow-hill, that her name was Lucy Smith—I then called her Louisa Knight, and she asked how I knew her name.

JOHN MARTYR cross-examined. Q. Have you had any conversation with Mr. Brooks about this case, and did he tell you he got up the case against Nott because his wife had offended him? A. Yes—he said he went down there to sell a pledge ticket, a quarrel ensued, and the reason he came against Nott was his striking him with a pewter pot and turning him out of the house.

(Nott received a good character.)



Confined One Year.

SMITH— GUILTY .— Confined Three Months.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

Reference Number: t18420919-2730

2730. ISAAC MORGAN was indicted for feloniously uttering a forged order for the payment of the sum of 11l. 10s., well knowing it to be forged, with intent to defraud Martha Foot.

MR. DOANE conducted the Prosecution.

MARTHA FOOT . I am a widow, and keep a public-house, in Liquor pond-street, Gray's-inn-lane. I have known the prisoner for six years—on a Saturday, in June last, between four and five o'clock, he brought this cheque—he asked, if I would oblige him with three sovereigns on it—he said it was too late for the bank—I advanced him the 3l.—on the Monday I gave the cheque to Mr. Harfield, to get cashed—I found it had been detained—I saw the prisoner again, I think, on the Tuesday afternoon—I told him I was surprised he should give me a cheque like that, it was a bad one, and was detained at the bank—he said, it was impossible, it was a very good one, drawn by a most respectable man, he would go and see after the gentleman he got it from—nothing further took place on that occasion—a very few days after I saw him again, nothing was then said about it—on the Friday I saw him again—I said, "Mr. Morgan, what about the cheque?"—he again said, it was a very good one, and he would pay me as soon as he possibly could—I saw him again several time—I knew where he was lodging—he was not carrying on any business at his lodging—about the 15th of August I called at his lodging—he came to me on the following morning, and said he was going to receive some money, and would pay me the bill, and the money that was owing me—I said, "Never mind about the bill, pay me the cash I advanced for the cheque."

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Did he pay you any money? A.

No—he was in the habit of using ray house almost every day—I did not receive any money from the prisoner on the Tuesday following—he was not out of the way at all.

JAMES HARFIELD . I am a compositor, and was living with the prosecutor at this time. On the Monday I received a cheque to get cashed at the Bloomsbury Bank—I delivered it to a clerk there—I did not get the money.

CHARLES SCHOFIELD . I am clerk in the Bloomsbury branch of the London and Westminster Bank—I received this cheque in June last—it purports to be drawn by John Booth—there is no such person keeps cash at our bank—I have examined the books, and they are here.

WILLIAM BARTON . I am an inspector of the G division of police—I took the prisoner on the 26th of August—I told him I took him for obtaining three sovereigns on a false cheque, from Mrs. Foot—he said, if he was locked up it would be the ruin of all his prospects, it was all his son's fault—I went to his lodgings with him—I found a great many papers and. tome flash notes, which I produce.

Cross-examined. Q. He showed yon where his lodgings were? A. Yes—these flash notes are about fashionable hair-cutters—I should not take them for Bank notes—there is a person named Booth, keeping the Marquis of Granby, at Ratcliffe Cross—I believe he is out of the way now—the prisoner stated Booth kept a public-house in Butcher-row—I found that he. was gone away, and his wife kept the house.

JOHN KERSHAW (police-constable G 123.) I produce this cheque, which I got from the Bloomsbury branch of the London and Westminster Bank.

WILLIAM BARTON re-examined, Q. Did—the prisoner say he got the cheque from Mr. Booth? A. He told the Magistrate he had it from a person of the name of Booth, and he told me I had a bit of paper in my possession which had the address of that person—I found it was in Butcher-row—I went there, but could not find such a person—he was not to be found at the public-house the night I went—I have not been since. GUILTY . Aged 60.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury.— Confined Two Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2731

2731. WILLIAM WATSON was indicted for assaulting Elizabeth Brinkworth, with intent, &c.

GUILTY of a common Assault. Aged 59.— Confined One Year.

Reference Number: t18420919-2732

2732. EDWIN CLAYTON was indicted for a misdemeanor.

MR. JONES conducted the Prosecution.

MOSES HART . I am a pen and quill merchant, and live in Houndsditch. The prisoner has been six or seven years in my service, first as other, and then as clerk—I went this summer to Margate—I was there on the 27th of July—I never gave the prisoner authority to write this letter—(looking at it)—it is his writing—he never accounted to me for this sum of 7l. 10s.—it is posted in the ledger, but he never told me he had received it—I discovered this on the 23rd of August—he left me on the 27th of August, without notice—I caused him to be apprehended about three weeks ago—I received this letter from him on the morning he was apprehended—I had offered 10l. for his apprehension.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How long were you out of town? A. A month—I left him and my daughter to manage my business—I left plenty of money to carry on the concern, in my daughter's care—she is not here—Woolfe was in my employ as dutcher—he was employed in the quill manufactory—the prisoner made no offer to pay the money, except by letter—I did not stop 10s. out of Woolfe's wages—the only thing the prisoner ever signed for me, with my consent, was a post-office order, and that always in my presence.

BENJAMIN WOOLFE . The parcel-book was given into my hand by the prisoner—he said, "Go and receive this money"—I said, "How much?—he said, "It is marked with a piece of blotting paper, look and see"—I took the book with me to Russell's wagon-office—it was a clasp-book—I put it on the desk, and asked for the money—I did not know what it was—I could not receive it—I went back, and the prisoner wrote a note—I took that, and received 7l. 9s.—the prisoner wrote this paper—(read)—"27th June, Houndsditch—Gentlemen, I shall feel obliged by your paying the bearer the amount of Mr. Jacobs' last parcel, 7l. 10s. The bearer will give you a receipt for the same. Yours obediently, MOSES HART. "Inclosed you have one of my cards."

Cross-examined. Q. How long had your master been out of town when you went for this account? A. I do not know what day he went—I borrowed 2l. of the prisoner out of this money, on the 27th of July, and paid him 30s.—I had told him that I wanted to borrow of my employer, Mr. Hart, 30s. or 2l.—he said, "I think I shall be able to do you that favour myself"—it was after that he gave me the book to go and get the money.

COURT. Q. What did you say when you presented this paper to get the 7l. 10s.? A. I did not say any thing.

THOMAS JENNINGS . I received this note—I believed it came from Mr. Hart, and paid the money on the strength of it.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you refuse to pay it without a letter? A. I did, because Woolfe was a stranger.

COURT. Q. Did you know Mr. Hart's handwriting? A. No—I have conducted business with him before—I have paid Hart several sums—I never saw any other handwriting—coming from his office, and bearing his signature, I conceived it came from him, and finding a card of his in the letter.

HENRY ALLEN . I am errand-boy to Mr. Hart. I remember my master coming from Margate last July—he told me to go to Russell's office for 7l. 9s.—the prisoner had said my master would send me for money, but I was not to go, I was to tell my master the clerk was out of town—I went, as my master told me, and found the clerk was out of town.

(Letter read.)—" Friday. Mr. Hart,—The circumstances under which I have been compelled to leave your employ are these, for the truth of which the Almighty hereafter will judge between us. The amount of 7l. 9s. was taken from the office of Messrs. Russells by Woolfe, the dutcher, but with no dishonest intention on my part or his; he wished to have the loan of 20s. or 30s., to attend a wedding at Highbury Barn. and from that sum I let him have 2l., 30s. of which he has repaid; and should have received the remaining 10s. on the Sunday. I went away on the Saturday, as you are aware, and was to meet my sister. In that I was disapppointed. I went by the railway; and on my return to the Euston-square

square station I went to a public-house, and stopped some time. I had my money safe in my pocket when coming up by the train, and in what manner I lost it I cannot tell. I do assure you I did not spend it, I unfortunately lost it," &c.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY. Aged 30.—Recommended to mercy.

Confined Six Months.

OLD COURT.—Monday, September 26th, 1842.

Fourth Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

Reference Number: t18420919-2733

2733. WILLIAM BROWN was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of September, 1 purse, value 2s. 6d.; 2 half-crowns, 5 shillings, and 2 sixpences, the property of Edward Ormiston, from his person.

EDWARD ORMISTON . I live at Pentonville. On the afternoon of the 21st of September I was crossing Cheapside, and got into Crown-court, towards my place of business—I felt something, and observed somebody behind me, who I believe to be the prisoner, rubbing against my pocket—on going into my door he passed up the court, and then returned—my boy spoke to me, and on feeling in my pocket I missed my purse with two half-crowns, and some shillings and sixpences—Archer, a policeman, came by—I went with him to the station, and found the prisoner in custody—Archer showed me a purse, which was mine—it was then empty—this is it, and the one I had just lost.

Prisoner. He could not swear to what was found on me. Witness. I had not marked my money—I saw two half-crowns, five shillings, and four sixpences—the silver corresponded with what had been in my purse.

HENRY COOK . I am a waiter, and live in Henry-street, Hampstead-road. On the 21st of September I was walking leisurely along, and noticed a person near the prosecutor, near Bow-church, Cheapside, genteelly dressed in a blue frock-coat, I saw him make an attempt to pick the prosecutor's pocket—two others were following him, one of whom was the prisoner—I let go of my wife's arm—the party escaped down Queen-street, and the other two, one of whom was the prisoner, followed the prosecutor up the court—I followed them and the prosecutor—the one who had escaped came down Crown-court, and said to the prisoner, "It is all right, cut"—I walked to the end of the street, to look for a policeman—the moment I saw him I said, "These men have picked a gentleman's pocket"—they ran down Queen-street together, and the prisoner was taken—I can swear positively to the prisoner—he had a green umbrella in his hand, and I could not be mistaken in him—after he was first secured he escaped, ran into a house, and got up stairs—he was again secured—the Lord Mayor was passing at the time, coming from Christ-church.

Prisoner. He said at the station he could not swear to me, but that it was a young man in a blue frock-coat had the gentleman's coat in his hand—he said he could hardly believe I was one of the party—the inspector asked him if I had an umbrella in my hand—he said the one in the blue coat had, but he did not say I had. Witness. I never expressed a doubt about him—he said before the Alderman that I had spoken the whole truth.

JOSEPH ARCHER . I am a City policeman. I was on duty in Cheapside

—in consequence of information, I followed the prisoner and two other persons—the other two escaped—I went into Bee Hive-court, Queen-street—finding the door of a house open, I went up stairs and found the prisoner on the second-floor staircase, leaning on the banisters—I asked what he did there—he said he was looking for one Johnson, a tinman—I found no such person there—I brought him to the station, and found half-a-sovereign, two half-crowns, five shillings, four sixpeuces, and 2 1/2 d. on him.

JOHN YATES . I am a City policeman. I lodged at No. 3, Bee Hive-court, on the second-floor—it is the house the prisoner was taken in—I was confined there with a bad foot at the time—after the prisoner was gone I searched on the landing-place, and on a shelf over the stairs, where my wife keeps her saucepans, I found the prosecutor's purse, exactly where the prisoner had been standing on the stairs.

Prisoner. At the station the landlord of the house was brought, and he said a little boy had found the purse on the landing, and brought it to the station—the inspector desired the landlord to bring the boy, instead of which this policeman came and said he found it. Witness. There was no boy in the question—my son was at home at the time, but he was in the privy when the prisoner was in the house, and previous to finding the purse I sent him on an errand—he was not at home when the purse was found.

EDWARD ORMISTON re-examined. This is my purse—it is the same colour, and the same slides and tassels; the same in every respect.

GUILTY .* Aged 20.— Transported for Ten Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2734

2734. LEVY LACHMAN was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of September, 26 watches, value 50l.; 11 spoons, value 18l.; 1 pair of sugar-tongs, value 1l. 10s.; 6 watch-guards, value 8l.; 1 snuff-box, value 1l. 5s.; 1 pair of earrings, value 30s.; and 12 rings, value 6l.; the goods of Jacob Tobias, his master.

The prosecutor did not appear.


Reference Number: t18420919-2735

2735. JOHN EDWARDS was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of September, 1 kettle, value 8s. 6d., the goods of George Thompson.

DANIEL EYRES . I live with Mr. Armstrong, a pawnbroker, in Ernest-street, Regent's-park. On Thursday, the 8th of September, the prisoner pawned this tea-kettle with me for 3s.—he came again on the Saturday to pledge a plough—I knew him to be the same person, and detained him in consequence of information—I charged him with being the man who brought the kettle—he denied it, but I am certain of him, and he gave the same name and address with what he offered to pledge then.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Did you not at first say he pledged it on Wednesday? A. I said so at the Police-court, because I had not got the duplicate with me, but the next time I rectified it—I was three times before the Magistrate—I have the ticket here—I had it with me at the last examination, but did not show it—I told the Magistrate that I had looked everywhere for it, and could not find it—that was when I first went, but I rectified it on the third occasion—I do not know whether I had the duplicate, but I was sure of the day, by looking at the book—I had the duplicate with me in my pocket on the third occasion, but I did not

look at that, and said nothing about it—I told the Magistrate I knew the prisoner was the man—I do not recollect saying he was like the man—I was doubtful of the day, not having the book with me, but not of the man; I was confident he was the man—I do not recollect saying I was pretty certain of him—I said I was quite certain he was the man—I have no doubt about him—I spoke to him on both occasions of his pawning, and heard him speak—he pledged each time in the name of John Williams, No. 10, Fitzroy-place—I did not at first say he was not the man before the Magistrate—I was rather confused at first, and expressed some doubt—I did not hear the Magistrate say, "What do you mean by this?"

CHARLES AUGUSTUS FRANCE . I live with George Thompson, a pawnbroker, in Frederick-place, Hampstead-road, not three minutes' walk from Armstrong's. On the 8th of September, between nine and ten o'clock in the morning, I missed a tea-kettle from the door—this is it now produced.

Cross-examined. Q. You did not see the prisoner there? A. No, I did not see any persons about at the time.

JOHN SEAGER . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner—he denied all knowledge of it.

Cross-examined. Q. He told you he had been to Armstrong, and pawned something else? A. Yes, a plough, but denied having pawned the kettle.


Reference Number: t18420919-2736

2736. FREDERICK SHACKELFORD was indicted for a misdemeanor.


Reference Number: t18420919-2737

2737. FREDERICK SHACKELFORD was again indicted for a misdemeanor.

MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

CHARLES WILLIAM WAGSTAFF . I am salesman to Mr. John Mumford, warehouseman, of Milk-street, Cheapside. The goods in question were obtained by the prisoner before Mr. Mumford knew of the circumstance—on the 23rd of June the prisoner called at my master's warehouse to look at some goods—he said, "Will you show me such and such articles?"—I forget what article he first named—I showed him some articles, and he selected some to the amount of 3 9l. 9s. 3d., consisting of gauze handkerchiefs, edging, blonde, four quarter bobinet, rouche, and fancy silk blonde—he then said, "I will give you my address," and he gave it on a piece of paper, which I have not preserved—it was given to Mr. Henry Mumford, and I have not seen it since—I copied it into the day-book about an hour or two after—I did not make the entry from the paper—I did not see the paper when I entered the goods—Mr. Henry Mumford had the paper—in consequence of what was written on the paper, I made inquiry of Ingram and Company, and of a person named Bachelard—Ingram and Co. said that he had an account with them to the amount of between 100l. and 200l., to the best of my recollection—that he had paid them money on account, I think to the amount of about 60l., that they were referred by him to Mr. Bachelard, and that as far as they were able to judge, they believed him to be a respectable man—when I went to Bachelard, he told me that he was a respectable man, that he had commenced a business in Maidstone, which was a very successful one, that he was doing a great deal of business, that he had money in the concern to the amount

of about 800l., and that he had married a young lady, who had a very pretty property, which consisted of houses in Sloane-street, Chelsea, to the amount of 2000l.—I said, "Is the property settled on his wife, or is it in his own control, because if it is in the wife's, of course the creditors cannot touch it"—he said, "No, the property was that settled in case he wanted more money in his business"—I made these inquiries of Ingram and Bachelard, within an hour or half-an-hour after the prisoner coming to us—he called again that afternoon, and wanted to know if the goods had been sent—he had ordered them to be sent to some inn in the Borough—I forget the name—Mr. Henry Mumford took the direction dow—I forget whether I or Mr. Henry Mumford gave instructions to the porter—they had not been sent when the prisoner called—we said we would forward them that evening—they were to be sent, to the best of my knowledge, by nine o'clock, but I am not positive—I know the George Inn in the Borough—I pass it every morning and night—I saw the goods before they went—they were directed to "Beaumont, Week-street, Maidstone"—I believe that was the address he gave me—they were sent that evening—I am not positive whether I was present when the porter left—I cannot say whether I gave directions to take them—Mr. Henry Mumford did in my presence—on the 30th of June the prisoner called again, and made another purchase of lace goods to the amount of 15l. 18s. 4d.—we sell nothing but lace goods—I believe they were sent to the same place as the former ones, but I am not positive—the porter took them—the prisoner said he should let us have some money the next time he came, which would be shortly—he came again in about a fortnight or three weeks, but I do not know the date, and looked out some more goods to the amount of between 15l. and 20l.—whilst he was sorting them out, Mr. Mumford came into the warehouse—up to that time he had never seen the prisoner, to my knowledge—I had delivered the goods on my own responsibility and that of Mr. Henry Mumford—on Mr. Mumford coming in, I introduced the prisoner to him—I said, "Mr. Mumford, this is Mr. Beaumont, of Maidstone"—I then turned to Mr. Beaumont, at least to the prisoner, who I supposed to be Mr. Beaumont, and said to him, "Mr. Mumford, Sen., Mr. Beaumont"—Mr. Mumford said, "Pray, are you Mr. Beaumont, will you give me your Christian name?"—Mr. Mumford then went to the desk, and the prisoner then gave him his name as John or William Beaumont, (or whatever it was, I forget the Christian name)—as he was looking out some goods, he said, "We" this, and "we" the other, that seemed to attract Mr. Mumford's attention, and he said, "I perceive you have a partner, Mr. Beaumont?"—he said, "No, I have no partner, but I have two or three very efficient yonng men at Maidstone, so that I frequently say, 'we' this, and 'we' the other,—he said, "Are you buying these goods on your own account, Mr. Beanmont!"—he said yes, he was—I believe that was before he asked if he had a partner—I saw Mr. Mumford at the desk, writing, at the time the prisoner gave him his name, and he asked him the way his name was spelt—I knew nothing of the name of Shackelford at that time—those goods were never sent.

COURT. Q. I presume, in Mr. Mumford's absence, a discretion is left with you to part, either for credit or money, with the goods in the shop? A. Certainly, and also with Mr. Henry Mumford, I am entrusted to exercise my discretion in the sale of goods, for credit or payment.

HENRY MUMFORD . I saw the prisoner write his name on a piece of

paper—it was copied correctly into the parcel-book, and then destroyed, as of no consequence, except for the time being—when the end was answered, it was destroyed—I am sure it was destroyed.

Cross-examined by MR. PRICE. Q.Were you told to bring that paper now? A. No—it was destroyed, consequently I could not bring it.

C. W. WAGSTAFF re-examined. Q. Now look in your book, and refreshing your memory by that, tell us what name and address he gave you? A. "P. M. Beaumont, of Week-street, Maidstone"—there were no initials given then, at least I do not know whether I noticed them.

Cross-examined. Q. How many young men has Mr. Mumford in his employ besides you? A. He has no other warehouseman—I have charge of the warehouse—I have never had occasion to consult with Mr. Mumford as to the propriety of giving or refusing credit—Mr. Mumford, senior, or his son, are generally at home, therefore I consider I have no responsibility of that kind—if neither were at home, I should act to the best of my knowledge—Mr. Henry Mumford manages the business when his father is out of the way—I never take out goods—we employ a porter—there was no under porter at that time—there is a youth now in the warehouse as assistant, but he was not present at the time—I cannot positively say that I recollect all that passed between the prisoner and myself—I have stated it as clearly as I can, as near as is possible for any person to recollect—I do not think I asked him for a card, nor did he produce one to my knowledge—I am not responsible if I make a bad debt—I make all inquiries to the best of my knowledge—I did not go or send to Maidstone—I have no correspondent at Maidstone—I never heard of a Mr. Beaumont at Maidstone—I do not know whether there is such a person at Maidstone—Mr. Mumford went to Maidstone.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. If you had not believed that the prisoner's name was Beaumont, and that he was carrying on business in Week-street, Maidstone, as a draper, would you have entrusted him with your employer's goods? A. Certainly not—it was from his representation that he was a draper carrying on business at Maidstone, that I let him have the goods.

MR. PRICE. Q. Was there any thing in the name of Beaumont, of Maidstone, that procured credit from you, which would not have occurred with any other name and place? A. Certainly not, if he had given me references which proved satisfactory—he could not have had any dealings at our house without my knowledge.

COURT. Q.Did he say what business he carried on at Week-street?

A. No, he did not to me, he merely said he was Mr. Beaumont.

GEORGE HERTSELL . I am porter to Mr. Mumford. On the 23rd of June I took a parcel of goods, directed to "Mr. Beaumont, of Maidstone," to the George Inn, Borough, and delivered it to the book-keeper, at the wagon-office—on the 30th, I took another parcel, so directed, and delivered it into the tavern—I cannot say who to.

JOHN MUMFORD . I have a lace establishment in Milk-street, Cheapside—I have no partner—my son Henry and Mr. Wagstaff have authority to sell in my absence, for credit or cash—I knew nothing of the prisoner until Monday, the 11th of July last, when he was introduced to me by Mr. Wagstaff—he was purchasing goods—Mr. Wagstaff said, "Mr. Mumford, Mr. Beaumont, of Maidstone;" and then said to the prisoner, "Mr. Beaumont, Mr. Mumford"—I said, "Your name is Beaumont, is it sir?"—he said, "Yes, it is"—I said I understood that Mr. Beaumont, of

Maidstone, had some person buying for him—he said, "Oh no, my name is Beaumont, and I buy for myself"—I said, "Did you buy the goods that have already been had from me yourself?"—he said, "Oh yes"—(that was two parcels which had been bought, and delivered to him)—as he was leaving the warehouse, he said, "Can I have these goods ready by six o'clock?"—it was then about two—I said, "Oh yes, there is plenty of time between now and then to get them ready"—I said, "I will take your name down sir if you llike to take the names correctly your name down, sir, if you please; we like to take the names correctly in our books, and to spell them right"—I walked to the desk, and he followed me—I then wrote this paper by his dictation—(reads)—"MR. Robert William Beaumont, Pool's Railway Tavern, at six o'clock, and send a receipt for 15l.—he was to pay 15l. on account—I went with the porter who took the goods, and he was not there—I did not see him—I never knew the prisoner by any other name than Beaumont—when I had written the name I showed it to him, and asked him if it was right, and he said yes—I have not been paid a farthing for any of my goods.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you go down to Maidstone? A. Yes—I did not find any body of the name of Beaumont there—I saw the name over a door, and the answer was, when I inquired for him, that he was gone to London—I never saw Mr. Beaumont myself—I saw a person who was said to be his father, and who is a party accused—I did not trace him to any place—I believe he is indicted with a good many others—I am most decidedly satisfied that there is such a person as Mr. Beaumont at Maidstone, and that it is not the prisoner.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. You are as satisfied that there is a Mr. Beaumont as that this person is not him? A. Decidedly so—I went there about the 14th or 15th of July, after I discovered my loss—the shop was not shut up—I saw some of ray goods there, a very small part.

WILLIAM KIMBRELL . In June last I was pot-boy at the Bull and Month tap. The prisoner was in the habit of using the parlour in company with others, one of whom passed by the name of Beaumont—the prisoner went by the name of Shackelford—some of the party used to come to our house almost every day, inquiring for each other—a great many parcels came there at different times—they were brown paper parcels, and there was one large deal box—the gentlemen that have brought the parcels have taken them away sometimes in a cab, and sometimes a porter took them—the prisoner was there with them when the parcels came and were taken away—they have sometimes opened them, looked at them, laid them on the table, and tied them up again—there was a man named Smith among them—I have seen him pay the others money sometimes, round the table, after the parcels have been tied up, and then the parcels went away—sometimes Smith took them away, sometimes a porter, and sometimes they went in a cab—Smith used to take them away in a brown coarse bag—when Smith has gone out he has said, "If any of the other gentlemen, Mr. Shackelford, Mr. Beaumont, or any of them, come to inquire for me, you can give them this piece of paper, and say I am gone to Barbican," and sometimes it was "to Fleet-street"—my mistress did not approve of them, and she forbid them the house, and would not serve them with two or three different things which they ordered.

COURT. Q. You say there was a man that went by the name of Beaumont, and that the prisoner went by the name of Shackelford; did he answer to the name of Shackelford? A. He went by the name of Shackelford, and Mr. Smith has called him by that name, and Beaumont has been

there at the time—Smith has called him Shackelford—he was addressing the prisoner by that name, and he has answered to it.

GEORGE HERTSELL examined. Some of our parcels were in brown paper—the parcels which I took to the George inn I took from our warehouse—they were put out ready directed for me to take—Mr. Mumford was not in the warehouse at that time—I made the parcels up—Mr. Wagstaff delivered the goods to me to be made up—he directed me to take them, and wrote the direction.

WILLIAM SWANSON . I am porter at the Swan with Two Necks, Lad-lane. At the latter end of May, and in June last, the prisoner frequented our coffee-room several times, for about three weeks—he used to come two or three times a day—he sometimes came alone, and sometimes another gentleman was with him—he came principally alone—I always understood him to be Mr. Beaumont, of Maidstone—I always addressed him as such, and he always answered as such—he gave me directions to take care of parcels, if any came for Mr. Beaumont, of Maidstone—a great many parcels came for Mr. Beaumont, of Maidstone—I took care of them till he came and asked me for them—I then gave them to him—he took them away generally in cabs, which were brought to the door of the house in the yard, the front door, the coffee-room leads to the front door—the frontage is in Lad-lane—if the cab had stopped in the lane many persons would have seen it—several letters and notes were taken in at the bar for Mr. Beaumont, of Maidstone—I have seen the prisoner open one or two letters so addressed.

WILLIAM MORRIS . I am a City policeman. I took the prisoner into custody on Saturday, the 7th of August, at Messrs. Shilling and Boyes, tobacconists, in Fenchurch-street—he had been there to order some cigars—I searched him, and found this card-case on him, and several cards, engraved "J. Shackelford, wine and spirit merchant, 22, Cheapside, corner of Blackman-street, Brighton;" and on one card is written, "Dealer in cigars of the very best quality"—I also found the card-plate in his pocket-book.

GUILTY . Aged 36.— Judgment Respited.


Before Mr. Justice Wtghtman.

Reference Number: t18420919-2738

2738. MICHAEL MAHON was indicted for feloniously assaulting Jane Featherstone, on the 21st of August, and cutting and wounding her in and upon the nose, with intent to do her some grievous bodily harm.

JANE FEATHERSTONE . I am the wife of John Featherstone, who works in a market-garden; I live at Deptford. On Sunday, the 21st of August, I went to the Fox public-house, Deptford, with my husband and brother-in-law, between nine and ten o' clock—after being there about half an hour there was a dispute between my husband and a party there—I did nothing, and never insulted them; but as I was standing with the landlady at the bar, the prisoner was following my husband with a quart pot, and struck me on the nose, saying he would murder me—it cut me right across the lip—a surgeon attended me.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. How many people were in the quarrel? A. Six of the party, and three women—I cannot tell whether the prisoner was tipsy.

JOHN GOULD . I am a cordwainer, and live in King-street, Deptford. On Sunday, the 21st of August, I heard cries of "Murder," went to the public-house, and saw a row with an Irish party, fighting one against as other, and soon after the prisoner was striking the prosecutrix's husband with a quart pot—they retreated to the front door, and a few minutes after the prisoner entered, and struck down the prosecutrix, as she stood at the bar—there was a general fight.

Cross-examined. Q. The prisoner was very drunk, I believe? A. I cannot say—he might have been so—they were all drunk I should fancy. GUILTY of an Assault. Aged 39.— Confined One Month.

Before Edward Bullock, Esq.

Reference Number: t18420919-2739

2739. JAMES MORRIS was indicted for assaulting Fanny Godden, with intent, &c.

GUILTY . Aged 60.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Three Month

Before Mr. Common Sergeant.

Reference Number: t18420919-2740

2740. SARAH GARDINER was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of August, at Woolwich, 11 yards of silk, value 12l., the goods of Francis William Vant, in his dwelling-house.

SARAH VANT . I am the daughter of Francis William Vant, a linendraper—his dwelling-house is in the parish of Woolwich. On the 22nd of August the prisoner came into the shop—I served her and missed a piece of silk when she had left, which I had seen safe on the counter about five minutes before—this now produced is it—it is my father's.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Was anybody else in the shop at the time? A. Yes, a great many customers—there was one young woman near the silk, but she went out before the prisoner, and I saw the silk safe after that young woman went out—no one went out from the time I saw it safe until it was found on the prisoner.

THOMAS DAVIES . I am apprentice to Mr. Vant—I went after the prisoner, who had got about thirty yards from the shop—I told her she had got something that did not belong to her—she said she had not—I took her shawl aside and saw this roll of black silk.

Cross-examined. Q. Where did you overtake the prisoner? A. Standing inside a public-house next door to the baker's shop—she said a young woman had given it her—she did not know who.

GUILTY .* Aged 27.— Transported for Ten Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2741

2741. MATTHIAS HARPER was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of September, 1 half-sovereign, 1 half-crown, 1 shilling, 1 sixpence, and 6 half-pence, the property of William Day, his master.

WILLIAM DAY . I live in Wellington-street, Woolwich—the prisoner was in my service. On the 15th of September my wife gave him the money stated—he went away and never came back.

ELIZABETH DAY . I gave the prisoner on the 15th a half-sovereign, a half-crown, a shilling, a sixpence, and six halfpence—he went out and did not return—he ought to have brought me the money back, or something instead of it.

JOHN GILLIVER (Police-sergeant N 8.) I took the prisoner—he said he had lost the half-sovereign and did not like to go back—I found him at Hackney.

Prisoner's Defence. I dropped the half-sovereign and was afraid to go back.

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2742

2742. JOHN BATT was indicted for stealing, on the 9th of September, 2 planes, value 5s., the goods of Thomas Henry Moore, his master; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 48.— Confined Two Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2743

2743. FREDERICK HILDER, alias Frederick Hilder Holditch, was indicted for bigamy; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 42.— Confined One Year.

Reference Number: t18420919-2744

2744. WILLIAM HENRY MILLER was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of August, 1 saw, value 2s., the goods of John Scudder: also, on the 15th of September, 1 plane, value 15s., the goods of John Scudder; to both which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 37.— Confined Four Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2745

2745. HENRIETTA BLOOMFIELD was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of September, 1 glass tumbler, value 10d., the goods of Benjamin French; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 47.— Confined One Month.

Reference Number: t18420919-2746

2746. GEORGE HILLIER was indicted for stealing, on the 2nd of September, 2 handkerchiefs, value 7s., the goods of John Wade and others.

ROBERT HORLOCK . I am in the employ of John, Charles, and Richard Wade, drapers, at Deptford. On the 2nd of September, between five and six o'clock, the prisoner came into the shop and asked me to show him some silk handkerchiefs—I did so, and soon after I missed one pattern which I had shewn him—I called a young man and asked him if he had taken one—he said he had not—I said it was very strange where it could be—the prisoner said I must have put it in the drawer—to convince him I pulled out the drawer again, and then I saw him draw one handkerchief out—I pulled the drawer back, and then I observed him draw these two handkerchiefs out of his trowsers—I am certain of that.

Prisoner's Defence. He said he missed them, and I said he must have put them in the drawer; he looked, and said they were not there; he then brought the drawer on the counter, and found the handkerchiefs on the counter amongst the others.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2747

2747. MARY ANN HAZARD was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of September, 1 handkerchief, value 4s., the goods of John Orick Kennard.

WILLIAM PALMER . I am shopman to John Orick Kennard. On the 14th of September the prisoner came into the shop in company with another female—they asked for some prints, which I shewed them—the prisoner walked across to the opposite counter, where there were some handkerchiefs, looked at them, and then came back and asked the price—I saw her hand go to her bosom—I then took her and found this handkerchief in the bosom of her dress—I had seen it safe previous to her looking at the handkerchiefs, and missed this.

GUILTY . Aged 29.— Transported for Seven Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2748

2748. ANN GRAY was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of August, 1 towel, value 6d.; 2 yards of silk, value 6d.; 1 pair of stockings, value 6d.; 1 yard of calico, value 3d.; 1 bottle, value 2d.; and 1 lancet, value 8d.; the goods of Samuel Burrows, her master.

MARGARET BURROWS . I am the wife of Samuel Burrows, and live at Greenwich. On the 19th of August I missed a towel and the other articles stated—these now produced are them, they are mine—the prisoner was not in my service at that time, but she had before come as a charwoman occasionally, and had the opportunity of taking these things.

Prisoner. Eliza gave me these to wash; she was in the habit of wearing these things, and she pulled these stockings off, the night Mrs. Burrows turned her away, because she found some stolen things on her; this towel and pair of stockings were in Eliza's things; this bottle I did not think it any harm to take; the lancet I found in the dust; you know I washed your things, and got them mended, and brought them home. Witness. No, you did not—this lancet you took from my work-box.

WILLIAM THOMAS ARTHUR (police-constable R 202.) I met the prisoner, with a bundle, on the 19th of August—I asked what she had got—she said it was no business of mine—I asked again, and she said, her own wearing apparel—I took her to the station, and found these things in the bundle, and at her lodging I found a small half silk handkerchief, which the prosecutrix claims.

SARAH HARE . I searched the prisoner, and found this lancet and bottle in her pocket.

GUILTY . Aged 46.— Confined One Month.

Before Mr. Recorder.

Reference Number: t18420919-2749

2749. THOMAS BROWN was indicted for obtaining 3s. 6d. from George Willis by false pretences; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2750

2750. JOHN BARNES was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of September, 6 shillings, and 1 sixpence, the monies of Thomas Townsend, from the person of Elizabeth Townsend.

ELIZABETH TOWNSEND . I am the wife of Thomas Townsend, a waterman, at Woolwich. On the 17th of September I was on the pavement in front of Mr. Waller's shop, at Woolwich, looking at the meat—I saw the prisoner on the pavement very close to me—I had 6s. 6d. in my pocket—I was waiting, because Mr. Waller was very busy—Mr. Waller asked me if I had lost any thing—I then felt in my pocket, and missed my six shillings and a sixpence.

SARAH JARVIS . I am the wife of James Jarvis. I was at Mr. Waller's shop, purchasing some meat—I saw Mrs. Townsend—the prisoner was standing very close to her, and I saw his hand under her shawl.

WILLIAM WALLER . I am a butcher, and live in Richard-street, Woolwich. On the evening of the 17th of August I saw the prisoner pushing very near to Mrs. Townsend—there was a man on one side of the prisoner, and another man on the other side of him, with his back towards the prisoner and Mrs. Townsend, and looking across the road—the men appeared to be covering the prisoner—I went to Mrs. Townsend, and spoke to her—the prisoner and the men directly turned from the place—I asked Mrs. Townsend if she had lost any thing—I called to one of my young men to

follow me—I took the prisoner, and he took one of the men—we brought them back to my shop, and gave them to the policeman.

GEORGE SHERRINGTON (police-constable R 167.) I received the prisoner—he was speaking to Mr. Waller, and said he had not taken the money—he had two half-crowns in his hand, and he said, "Is this the money? the woman has lost shillings, and does this look like it?"—one of the men was taken, but he was discharged.

ELIZABETH TOWNSEND re-examined. I had my shawl on, and my money was in my right-hand pocket—a hand under my shawl would get at my pocket—I bad noticed my money safe in my pocket not five minutes before the prisoner pressed against me—I noticed two men being behind me, but they did not press against me.

Prisoners Defence. I merely went to the shop to buy some meat; I know nothing about the woman's money.



Before Mr. Justice Creswell.

Reference Number: t18420919-2751

2751. WILLIAM PERRY was indicted for feloniously assaulting Edith Elizabeth Diggle, on the 6th of September, and cutting and wounding her in and upon the left arm, with intent to do her some grievous bodily harm.

MR. CHAENOCK conducted the Prosecution.

EDITH ELIZABETH DIGGLE . I am single, and live in Windmill-street, New Cut, Lambeth. I have known the prisoner nearly five years, and have lived with him as his wife, on and off, for two years—I have been an inmate of the Magdalen for two months—I went in there about two months ago, and left on the Monday week before this happened. The prisoner had promised to marry me when I came out—I saw him the same evening I came out—on Tuesday night, the 6th of September, between ten and eleven o'clock, I went to a concert in Gray-street, Blackfriars-road, and met him there—I asked him for some money for some victuals—(he had given me half-a-crown and a watch a week before)—he said he could do no more for me—he was going to ill-use me, we had words, and the policeman came up and parted us—I went away—no blows passed then—I came down directly after him, and saw him at the corner of Queen-street, Blackfriars-road, the next turning to Gray-street—I was standing there, and he came up to me, and called me a b—wh—, and said he would do for me—he put his hand into his pocket, pulled out a knife, opened it, and made a thrust at my side—I put up my arm, and prevented him, and received a stab on my left arm—it bled, and after that he gave me a kick in my left side—I fell, and was insensible, and was taken away—next morning I came to my senses, and found myself in St. Saviour's workhouse—this is the knife he did it with—I know it because he wore it in his pocket—I had seen him wear it for about a week before—he is a pewterer.

Cross-examined by MR. CROUCH. Q. Did you go to the concert by yourself? A. Yes, and met him there by accident—he called the police when we came down—we had a scuffle, and he tore my shawl—I had

asked him for money for victuals—he would not give mo any—he made a blow at me—I did not make a blow at him, not before he struck me—I first lived with him, eating and drinking with him in the day, and lodged with him at different lodging houses at night, during the last two years—he never would provide a place for me to go to—I was at his mother's for a fortnight—I am an unfortunate girl—the prisoner's mother got me into the Magdalen, and also into the Pentonville Penitentiary—she has been very kind to me, but the prisoner has not—I have been wounded by him before—I once attempted to destroy myself—I had no house to go to, be served me just the same as he has now, and I took some laudanum—I never attempted to drown myself—I was once insensible from a blow which he gave me, and he said I was trying to strangle myself—that is twelve months ago—a doctor examined me—I have been before a Magistrate once for creating a disturbance—I was in company with a young woman who committed a felony, she left the things with me, and I was taken to Union-hall, but I was innocent—since this transaction the prisoner's mother has been to me, and she gave me half-a-crown to get myself a pair of boots, that I should not appear against him—I did not tell her that I had wounded myself out of jealousy—they said I had done it myself, but I never did—I left the public-house between ten and eleven o'clock on Tuesday night—I saw the prisoner again in about five minutes—I never told the prisoner's mother that if the prisoner would not marry me I would destroy myself, nor that I would transport him and myself too—he did not charge me with stealing the watch on the night in question—he had given it me as a keepsake—he was the first person that took me from home—I did not sleep with him at his mother's—I lived with him there—I slept in the next room to him.

DAVID MAY . I am an assistant surgeon, in High-streef, Borough. On Tuesday night, the 6th of September, I was sent for to St. Saviour's workhouse, and found the proseutrix there insensible—I examined her, and found an incised wound in the centre of the left arm, about an inch and a half, or three quarters long, and half an inch deep in the centre—the knife produced would cause such a wound—she did not suffer much pain then—it had left off bleeding—I dressed it—she was suffering from pain in the side—I examined it—she was not sensible enough to tell me of it, but I could see it by her right arm going to her left side unconsciously, and appearing in pain—she was in bed, and placed her hand to the part—after dressing the wound I administered a slight stimulant, and directed her to be kept quiet—I found a slight inflamed mark on her side—I do not think a kick would produce that—it was merely a streak—I could not say what produced it—it would not require violence to produce it—it was so very slight—sufficient time had not elapsed to produce blackness.

Cross-examined. Q. At what hour did you see her? A. From a quarter to half-past twelve o'clock—the wound was such as a person might easily give themselves—it is rather difficult to say, but I should be more inclined to say it was a thrust than a cut—it would have the same appearance if given by herself—it was not a severe wound—it was awkward, and danger might rise from it.

EDWARD PATRICK . I am a boot and shoemaker. I was in Queen-street, on this Tuesday night, between eleven and twelve o'clock, and heard a woman scream violently—I immediately ran and found the prosecutrix on the pavement senseless, and bleeding in the arm—we kept her

there a few minutes, we could not get a doctor, and took her to the workhouse, and left her there—she was lying on the flat pavement right opposite my brother's house, where I live.

Cross-examined. Q. You ran out the moment you heard the scream?

A. Yes—I saw nobody near her, nor anybody in the street—it is a long street—I believe if anybody had been on the spot I should have seen them—I looked up and down, and one man went one way, and one another, to see if there was anybody—I had been in the street about an hour before—she appeared quite insensible—there are no courts in the street.

COURT. Q. How far from your house did you find her? A. A yard and a half from the door—I got out not half a minute after I heard the scream—there are three streets running out of that street—the two nearest are about fifty yards from our house.

FLORENCE STACEY (police-constable L 107.) I took the prisoner into custody on the 7th, and took him to the station—I asked if he had a knife, and he produced this knife from his waistcoat pocket, and gave it to me—I told him he was charged with stabbing a girl, and he denied it.

MR. CROUCH called the following witnesses:—

GEORGE MUCKLOW . On the 6th of September, about half-past eight o'clock, I was in the New Cut, standing by the Coburg Theatre, and saw the prisoner—I told him there was a free concert at the John-o'-groat, in Gray-street, and went there with him, between half-past eight and nine—we remained there about an hour—I saw the prosecutrix come up there and say something to him, which I was not near enough to hear, and she knocked the pipe out of his hand in the public room—I pointed to him to come out, which he did, and I put my foot on the opposite form to stop her—she shoved my leg down and followed him down stairs—she seemed very violent—I cannot say whether she was in liquor—I followed them down, when they got outside the door she laid hold of his coat, and held him so tight that he could not get away—two policemen came up, and it was as much as they could do to get her away from him—I do not know that the police were called, but they came up—they were Nos. 34 and 40—the prisoner gave her in charge, and wished her to be taken to the station—the policeman refused, saying, if they did not go off he would lock them both up—the prisoner charged her with stealing his watch, and robbing him of a barrow—the policeman would not take the charge, and she went away—after standing outside the John-o'-groat half an hour, or more, I accompanied the prisoner, and two or three more friends, to the Half-way-house in Webber-row—we had a pot of half-and-half and a drop of gin there—it was about a quarter to twelve when we came out—our friends wished us good night, and the prisoner asked me to accompany him home, as I lived close by, which I did, and it wanted about ten minutes to twelve when I got home—I saw the prisoner go into his house and shut the door—I never left him from half-past eight till the time he went into his house.

MR. CHARNOCK. Q. What are you? A. I get my living in the street by selling fruit—the prisoner and I were not particularly intimate, merely seeing one another now and then—I have no shop—I go about with a two-wheeled barrow, and have done so for three years—before that I lived with Mr. Valentine, a poulterer, in the New Cut, for upwards of two years—we had a few words and I left—before that I lived for nine weeks with Mr.

Wybrow, who keeps a butter shop in the New Cut—I left him in consequence of having a few words—before that I was with my brother, in Scotland, who was in the Excise Office—I left him because we could not agree—neither of the policemen are here—the friends who were with me and the prisoner were Edward Hart and William Doo and their two wives—Hart and Doo are here, I do not think their wives are.

MR. CROUCH. Q. Have you known the prisoner some time? A. Yes, two years—he always bore a good character—I have seen the prosecutrix molest him half a dozen times, and he has never lifted his hands against her.

ELIZABETH PERRY . The prisoner is my son, I live in Baker-street, Oakley-street, Lambeth. On Tuesday, the 6th of September, my son came home at twelve o'clock at night—I let him in—I heard him bid a young man "Good night"—the prisoner sleeps in the back room first floor—I fastened the door when he came in, and had he gone out again I should have heard him—I sleep in the parlour—he went to bed immediately on his coming in—he did not go out again—he got up between six and seven o'clock in the morning to go to market—he was called by my lodger, who lives in the front room—I know the prosecutrix—I met her yesterday week in the street, and she told me that my son was innocent of cutting her arm, and she only wished she had put the knife as far into her heart as she had in her arm—I said, "I am not surprised at your telling me that, I know that my son is not guilty"—she said she would not hurt a hair of his head, God forbid, but the reason she had done it was, that she heard that he went after a bar-maid, and offered her marriage, (which was nothing of the kind) and if he got over this he should not breathe the week out, nor herself either—I have known her about four years—I have tried to do her good—my son was partial to her, but I rather think it was more on her side than his.

MR. CHARNOCK. Q. How do you know at what time he came home? A. My clock struck twelve when he came in, after I fastened the door—I should think Gray-street is not more than 200 yards from my house—this conversation with the prosecutrix took place opposite the Tower public-house, in the Westminster-road, between eleven and twelve o'clock in the morning—she was crying bitterly.

WILLIAM CUNNINGAM . I am a boot-closer, in Frazer-street, Oakley-street—I know the prosecutrix—she has been lodging with me from last Tuesday up to Sunday—she told me that the young man she had charged with stabbing her in the arm was innocent, and the only cause she had got for saying it was, that she had been told he had been keeping company with a bar-maid, and before any other woman should enjoy him, she would have him sent out of the country, and herself afterwards.

MR. CHARNOCK. Q. Was any one present when this conversation took place? A. Yes, Mr. Norris.


Before Mr. Justice Wightman.

Reference Number: t18420919-2752

2752. JAMES SAMUEL BROWN was indicted for feloniously forging and uttering, on the 24th of August, 8 warrants and orders, called money orders, with iutent to defraud the Right Honourable Baron Lowther.


conducted the Prosecution.

ELIZABETH BLUNDELL . My husband keeps the post-office receiving-house at Camberwell. I assist him—we receive money orders from the country to pay to persons in London—this is the form of them—if an order is presented to me, before I pay it I expect a letter of advice from the Post-office—on the 24th of August the prisoner came to our house and presented these eight money orders—(looking at some)—I had received a letter of advice from Sittingbourne on the 24th, and these eight orders corresponded with the letter—he inquired if I had received any order from Sittingbourne to pay to William Gouter the sum of 39l.—I asked him the party's name who had remitted the money—he said Thomas Gouter, a solicitor, of Sittingbourne—he came in a cab or carriage—I paid him the money—he took a small cash-box from the cab and put the money into it—I sent that day the letter of advice I had received from Sittingbourne to the post-office—this is it.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q, Did you see the prisoner himself? A. I did—he came in a cab or carriage—I did not observe whether there were two horses—it might have been a carriage and pair.

ROBERT POULTER . I am in the service of Mr. Wells, a livery stable-keeper, in Blackfriars-road. On the 24th of August the prisoner came to our place and wished a pair of horses to be put into a carriage called a "Brougham," which was standing in the yard—he had a cash-box with him—he directed to be driven to the post-office at Kennington—I drove him there—he got out, took the cash-box with him, and went into the post-office—when he came out he brought the cash-box—he told me to drive to Clapham-road, to a post-office there—he got out there with the cashbox, and came back to me again—from there I drove him to the post-office, Camberwell-green—he took the cash-box out again, brought it back into the carriage again, and ordered me to drive to Islington, but before I got there I was to stop at the Post-office in St. Martin's-le-grand, which I did—when I was coming from there he asked me if I knew what time the Bank closed—I said I did not, but I drove him to the Bank—he got out there and came back with the cash-box—he came out of there a few minutes after five, and I drove him to Sadler's Wells,—he opened the cash-box in the portico, and gave me 1s. out of it—there were a great many sovereigns in it—he went into the Myddleton's Head, called me into the place again, and rode a little way into St. John-street with a young lad who he brought out of Sadler's Wells—I drove them a short distance to St. John's-street—they got out there, and he left the cash-box in the carriage—I asked him if there was any property in it, if so, I should take it to my master's premises—he said there was none—I found there was none—it was fetched away a few days after.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. You knew him well, did you not? A. I have driven him twice—he opened the cash-box in the ground at Sadler's Wells where the carriages drive—it was between five and six o'clock—the stage door was open—there might be six or seven people about, near where he opened the cash-box.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. It was quite daylight? A. Quite.

WILLIAM MARSH . I am post-master of Sittingbourne. It is in the course of business to receive money and give orders on the post-office for

it—we send to the post-office where the money is to be paid, a printed letter of advice filled up according to the occasion—we obtain the printed letters from the post-office—after sending a letter of advice to a particular post-office I send a duplicate of it to the office where the order is made payable—I should send in this case a letter of advice to Camberwell if it was to be paid there, and a duplicate of it to the General Post-office—I did not receive 39l. 11s. 5d. from a person named Thomas Gouter, about the 23rd of August—this letter of advice was not issued from my office—it is not in the hand-writing of any person in my office—it is signed "J. Smitheri"—I have no such person in my office, and did not authorize any person to write it—these eight orders did not issue from my post-office—they are not genuine orders—I have made diligent inquiry at Sittingbourneand can find no such person as Thomas Gouter—I have lived there for about fiity years—I never heard of such a person—we number our orders in succession—these are not the consecutive numbers which would come in the regular order about the 23rd of August—my numbers that day would commence with 195 and finish at 201—I issued 207 on the 25th of August—the form of the order is printed and filled up as occasion requires.

JOHN RBES LETTICE . I am a clerk in the money-order office. was orders are sent from the country, the letter of advice is sent to the Genenl Post-office and entered in a ledger—the post-master in the country is debited with the amount of money he receives, and the post-master they are sent to credited for them—about the 25th of August I referred to the ledger where orders from Sittingbourne are entered with the letter of advice sent to Mr. Blundell—I compared it—it is dated the 23rd of August—the entries in the ledger do not correspond with that—I know the prisoner, and know his hand-writing perfectly well—this letter of advice is his hand-writing, I have no doubt of it, there is no concealment about it—he is a clerk in the money order office.

Cross-examined by Mr. PHILLIPS. Q. There is no question about his hand-writing? A. None whatever—I have known him about a year and a half.

FREDERICK ROWLAND JACKSON . I am chief clerk in the money-order office. I have known the prisoner in that office about eighteen months, and have seen him write almost daily—I believe all these orders to be his hand-writing, and also the letter of advice—we have a book in the office in which the clerks enter their attendance—they sign the tine they come, and the hour at which they leave—on the 24th of August, the prisoner applied to me for leave of absence, which was granted-be left at two o'clock—I have the book here with the entry made by him as to the time he left—it was originally entered "four," and subsequently altered to "two," by himself—he entered the "four," on the 24th—I saw it on the 25th, and on the same day I saw it altered to "two"—it is my practice to examine the book in the morning, and finding he had put four, and left at two, I called on him to explain it—he seemed reluctant to explain, but mumbled something that he did not know it was of any consequence, or something—I said it was my duty to report it, which I did, and he was made to alter it—I then affixed my initials to show that he had my leave to go at that time.

CHARLES FREDERICK ARMSTRONG . I am a clerk in the money-order office at the General Post-office. The prisoner had been in that department about eighteen months—I have known him in the Post-office about two years

—these orders, and the letter of advice are in the handwriting of the prisoner, to my belief—I should say, from the post-mark, that this letter was posted at the head office in London—it purports to be from Sittingbourae to Camberwell—it has the stamp of the 24th of August, eight o'clock at night—we keep blank forms of letters of advice, and money orders in the office—they are delivered out in quires for the use of the office, and forwarded to the post-masters in the country when applied for—the prisoner had access to them, and also to the books, so as to know what money orders come from the particular offices in the county—this letter purporting to come from siittingbourne, appears to have been put in the twopenny post at the General-office, on the 24th of August, but I am not conversant with the twopenny post-marks.

MATTHEW PEEK . I am a police-constable, attached to the Post-office. On the 2nd of September, I took the prisoner into custody at the General Post-office—Mr. Peacock, junior, was present—the nature of the charge was stated to him, respecting the money orders at Camberwell—the whole charge was mentioned to him—he said he could explain it—I afterwards searched him, and found in his breast coat pocket a purse ntaining 25l. in gold, and a gold diamond ring—in his waistcoat pocket I found a gold watch with a gold chain attached—I took him to Bow-street, and asked where he resided—he said No. 12, Old Gravel-lane, southwark, and that he had another lodging which he would not mention—he gave me some keys—I got a search warrant, and went to No. 12, Old Gravel-lane, with Mr. Phillips of the Post-office—I went to the two-pair back room, and saw a chest of drawers there—I opened it with one of the keys, and found a cash box—Mr. Phillips opened it with a key which I found in the drawer, and took-out some Bank notes—I saw a quantity of sovereigns at the bottom, and ten money orders—they were put in again, and the box locked up, and taken to the Post-office—I unlocked it there with one of the keys the prisoner had given me, and found money orders, 65l. in Bank of England notes, and 189l. in gold.

SAMUEL HURST . I am a letter carrier at Peckham, and have been so nearly thirty years—there is no such person there as William Gouter—I have made diligent inquiry since this, and there is no such person.

OSWALD STRONG . I am collector of poor-rates, in Camberwell parish. There is no such person there as William Gouter to my knowledge—I have never heard of such a person either as housekeeper or lodger.

MR. PHILLIPS called the following witnesses:

MARY HANNAH BROWN . I am the prisoner's sister. He resided with his father and family up to the time of his apprehension, in Gravel-lane—my father has a manufactory there for metallic casts—about twelve years ago, the prisoner received a blow from a brickbat—I was not present at the time, but I saw him afterwards—his health has been very bad indeed since that time—he has been constantly ill, and he nearly lost his eyesight—he was subject to convulsions very frequently—he was constantly ill for three years—I have always considered him very deranged in his mind—he has very frequently called me from the top of the house into his bed-room in the day-time, when I have been engaged in domestic affairs, and when I have got into his room, he has said, "Don't you think me very beautiful?" or "Do you love me?" or something of that sort, and has looked very wild indeed at me—he has had nothing to communicate to me—whenever we have had company he has always gone to bed—he had a sword which

he used to put at his pillow every night—he never would sleep without it—he always signed his name "Colonel James Samuel Brown"—on the 31st of March, this year, he became twenty-one years of age—my father had some friends in the evening to celebrate that event—he attended the party a very short time, and then went to bed again—he had been to bed in the early part of the day—he generally used to lie down in the early part of the day—he only came down for a few minutes that night, and then went to bed again—he came down again to supper, staid about a quarter of an hour, and then went to bed again—on the following morning he got up about half-past five o'clock, and went to the end of the factory where there was a copper of melted lead for my father's business, he said to me, "See, this will not burn me," and immediately put his hand to the bottom—I saw him from the garden—his hand was drawn together, and he was very much burnt—he went himself for medical assistance—his hand was bad from that for nearly a fortnight—he was obliged to stay away from the Post-office part of the time—about eight o'clock one evening, four or five weeks ago, my father sent me up stairs to see what had become of him—I found him lying on his bed with his clothes off—I said, "Are you ill?"—he said, "No," very faintly—I said, "Well then you must come down stairs"—he said, "I cannot," in the same suppressed tone—I happened to look on the mantel-piece, and saw a small empty phial there with "Poison" written on it—I said, "You have taken poison"—his countenance was very black—I ran down stairs to my father—Dr. Kear was in the house, and came to him—I was present when Dr. Kear questioned him—Dr. Kear is now on his way to India—he asked him if he had taken it, and he confessed that he had—emetics were given to him, and he did what was necessary—that caused a sickness—he was very sleepy in the night, and we waited with him—I kept walking round the garden with him for a considerable time—he was very drowsy all night—I staid with him all night, but it had no further effect—the latter end of last May, I was in the drawing-room, and heard a noise in his bed-room, between nine and ten o'clock at night—I went up to him—he had been gone to bed an hour or two, I should think—I waited outside his door till my mother came up, and while outside we heard him talking as we thought to somebody then, but when we went in there was nobody there but himself, standing in the middle of the room undressed—he assigned no reason for being so—he looked at us very strangely and wild—he went to bed—about eighteen months ago, he came home in a cab insensible—he did not speak, and could not move, and was carried out of the cab—Dr. Philip was in the house at the time, and he sent a certificate to the office of his being unfit to attend—he has often sat in the garden in a pouring rain, the greater part of the night—we have missed him six or seven times, and found him there when there has been heavy rains—he had a regimental uniform, and epaulets, in which he frequently dressed himself—I never saw him go out in it—he would call himself "Colonel James Samuel Brown," when he was so dressed—I have very frequently seen him dressed in the costume of Charles the Second—I never knew him go out in it—his habits were sullen and reserved—about two years ago, a brother of mine was married, and on that occasion the prisoner put white ribbon on his shoes, and on the necks of the cats—three years ago, he had a convulsive fit at the Postoffice—he had frequent attacks of that sort—I believe him to be of unsound mind.

MR. ATTORNEY GENERAL. Q. What medical man attended him twelve years ago when his head was hurt? A. I believe Dr. Philip—I was too young then to recollect the wound, but I saw him ill in bed—he went to school at Mr. Pollard's, at Brompton, for three or four years—he has been to several schools—I believe none of the masters or ushers are here—he got the sword many years ago—he has always used it—he never went without it at night—he always took it to bed with him, up to within a few days of his apprehension.

Q. Was he allowed that sword after he had taken the poison? A. I do not know—I rather think it was always at his pillow—I have not noticed whether there are any marks on his hands now from the melted lead—he put his hand to the bottom, and there was a great deal in it, quite enough to cover his hand—he applied to Mr. John-Brady for medical assistance—he is not here—it must have been in August that he took the laudanum—I cannot say the day, but I should think four or five weeks ago—I rather think it was on a Monday or Tuesday—he had come home from the Post-office on that occasion—he returned to his duty on the following day—he went into the Post-office five years ago this month—he writes a good hand—he never learnt any business—he left school when about fifteen, and was at home about twelve months before he went to the Post-office—he did not assist my father during that twelvemonth—he used to attend to the schooling of my sister and myself—he assisted in teaching us.

CATHERINE BROWN . I am twelve years old. On my brother's wedding-day the prisoner tied some white satin ribbon round the cats' necks, and in his own shoes—he always used to take the cats up to bed with him—we had a large Newfoundland dog in the factory, and he took him up to bed with him one night—he has frequently called me from the top of the house to the bottom, without wanting me, and has said, "Don't you think I am very beautiful?" or "very lovely?"—when we have had friends at the house, he has always gone down to the bottom of the garden, or up to his bed-room—when dancing has been going forward, he never asked any ladies to dance, unless they asked him—he was sullen and reserved on those occasions, as well as at other times—one evening he went and laid down at the bottom of the garden, all in the rain, for about an hour, with nothing to cover him—he told me once that he had floated on the river—I told him of it the day after, but he did not remember any thing about it—about a fortnight before one of my sisters was married, which was three months ago, he had a fit, and I have known him have several fits—he is quite insensible then, and does not know what he does or says—he is not able to stand up.

WALTER BROWN . I am the prisoner's brother, and am a clerk in the Twopenny Post-office. It was I that had the misfortune to hit him with a brick—my brother John, I, and James, were playing behind my father's factory, at Brompton—John had occasion to go into a little house, and I suppose James must have been behind him, but I did not see him—I thought I would frighten John, and threw a brick at the door, but James must have come before I was aware he was there, for I struck him on the head with the brick—I heard him scream, saw his hand up to his forehead, and the blood oozing out of his forehead—be never complained of pain in his head before that, but since that I have heard him do so, and he had bad eyes a long time after that—I cannot say how long he continued unwell from the effects of that blow, for I rather think I was sent to school in consequence

—in January, 1840, in consequence of my sister mentioning something to me, I went to the Inland-office, at the Post-office, and into the clerks' washing-place below, where I found my brother lying on the ground and I should think, a dozen persons belonging to the Post-office about him, holding him down—he was talking a mixture of French and English—they lifted him up on a table, and a surgeon was sent for, who was very near bleeding him—Dr. Philip saw him afterwards—he was not bled—one Sunday afternoon he came to ray house with my father's Newfoundland dog, brought it into my front parlour, and said he would make a bet with me, or any of us, that this dog would swallow a sovereign—nobody made him any reply—he took a sovereign out of his pocket, and dropped it on the ground—the dog was making towards it, and he took it up, and put it into his pocket—he then pulled out a shilling, threw that on the ground, and let the dog swallow that, which he did, and he remarked, "The vagabond has got enough in his inside to last him a week"—I do not live at my father's.

LADY SARAH BRANSCOMB . I am the widow of Sir James Branscomb, who some years ago was Sheriff of Middlesex. I have been acquainted with the prisoner's family more than twenty years—I remember, ten or twelve years ago, seeing the prisoner with his head tied up—about the middle or latter end of May last he came down to my house, quite unexpectedly, and said he came for the purpose of consulting me on his marriage that was to take place—I said, "Oh, indeed, Mr. James! who are you going to be married to?"—he said, "To a Countess, with 40,000l. a year"—he said he should see me again, to name the time, to tell me to get a splendid dress on the occasion—I was invited to the weddiog—I said I hoped he would give me plenty of time to get my dress ready—I certainly considered him insane.

MR. ATTORNEY-GENERAL. Q. Did you communicate this to his father? A. Yes, and to his brother, and they said, "Oh, it is his odd way, you know he is at times mad"—I had observed him before, and certainly thought him quite unsound—this conversation produced no impression it the time, as I considered him quite insane—he came to me a second time about a fortinght after, and said he was coming to do up my garden—I said, "Oh, Mr. James, I don't require that, my gardener comes occasionally"—he said,. "Oh, I can spare two days and transplant all your flowers"—I was on a visit at his father's about the 1st of April, this year, when he went into the factory and came out with his fingers almost off—he had put them into hot lead—I said, "How came you to do that, one would think you were mad"—I saw his hand almost immediately after and thought his fingers were all burnt off—it was both hands, the right hand more particularly—he could not write, he was confined at home some time in consequence, and Dr. Brady attended him.

MADAME AMYOTT . My husband is a colonel in the French army—I have known the prisoner's family about thirty years—I always thought the prisoner very singular when a boy, and since that he has annoyed me very much by his visits—I never could get rid of him, relating most singular and ridiculous things—about three months before his sister's marriage he called on me and said he was going to be married to a young lady of 60,000l. a-ycar, that they were very odd people, the father was a miserable man, but the young lady was very fond of him, but very young, and he should be married before his sister.

MR. ATTORNEY-GENERAL. Q. At the time this was said did you consider it an illusion of an unsound mind? A. I thought him unsound—he would frequently come and sit down for an hour or two, till I was obliged to tell him to go—at the time he mentioned about being married it was in the manner he always talked—I cannot say whether he believed it

himself—I did not.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Was his conversation generally that of a person who did not know what he was saying? A. Exactly so.

DR. ALEZANDLR SUTHERLAND . I am a physician, and live at No. I, Parliament-street. I was thirty years physician to St. Luke's hospital, and am now consulting physician—I have had my share of practice in cases of insanity—I was first called to see the prisoner on Friday the 16th of September, in prison—I had a consultation with Dr. Philip and Mr. M'Murdo, and they were present at the examination—I was introduced to him by Mr. M'Murdo as a person wishing to submit a few questions to him—I asked him about his health, which he said was very good—I regretted the position he was in—he said he had been guilty of no crime, that he had acted for the good of the state, that he only required to see Lord Lowther, that everything would be made satisfactory, and that he expected promotion in consequence of this act—I asked him at to his education, and whether he had been trained to the military profession—he said he had, and he held a commission in the army, that he was a colonel in the 16th Lancers—I asked him if he had ever worn the uniform of a Colonel—he said he had frequently—I produced a dress which I had taken with me, and which he recognized as having frequently worn—he told me it had been given to him by Colonel Belie, that the epaulets had been bought in Paris, that he had a right to wear them, for he was a colonel in the 16th Lancers—I took the dress with me to ascertain whether be recognized it—I had got his hand-writing from the family and submitted it to him, asking if it was his hand-writing—he said it was—I said, "Surely, you cannot mean what you have written here, you have written Colonel James Brown"—he said, it was his, and he had a right to the signature, he was Colonel James Brown—I asked if he objected to give me his designation in writing, and he wrote in a good, bold, firm hand, "Colonel James Brown, 16th Lancers, 16th September"—and under the letter "S" he wrote "24" in small figures—I asked what that meant, he very adroitly replied, "Oh, I mean to dine out that day, I am engaged to dine with Mrs. Ducrow"—I asked him if he knew the little boy, young Ducrow—he said he did, that he was very fond of him, and had given him 10l. to buy a pony—I asked if he recollected being angry with the little boy for not answering a question, and whether in consequence he did not threaten to throw a 5l. note behind the fire—he said he recollected the circumstance, but he did not throw the 5l, note behind the fire, but he lit his cigar with it—I asked him if any other person had done that in his presence whether he would not conceive it was an act of madness?—he said, "No, I should not, there is nothing in that"—I said, "It is stated that you thrust your hand into boiling lead, is it so? what made you do it?"—he said, "I only did it to try if it would hurt"—he afterwards said it was so like quicksilver that he was tempted to try the experiment—he admitted that he was hurt by it, and was attended by Dr. Brady—I wished to know whether he had any intention of altering his situation in life, I heard he was going to be married,

and begged to know to whom—he mentioned to a countess with money—I asked if he had not invited lady Branscomb to the wedding, and mentioned to her ladyship that the Countess's fortune was 40,000l. a year—he said, "It might be so"—I said, "You told me you expected promotion at the Post-office; what promotion is it?"—he said, "I shall not return to the Post-office, I shall join my regiment in India"—I said "You were once disappointed in not receiving promotion at the Post-office, had it any effect on your spirits?"—he admitted that it had—I said "Was it to the extent that made you attempt to commit suicide?"—he admitted that he had taken laudanum with that intent—I asked him about the blow he had received from the brickbat, which he explained was done by accident by his brother, since which his eyesight had been affected, one eye particularly, and that he had had fits; that Dr. Philip had attended him in a fit about two years ago; during this examination I was introduced by Mr. M'Murdo to Mr. Britten, the Under Sheriff, who had come in, and my name was mentioned—until then the prisoner did not know my name—we felt his pulse and examined him, and recommended that he should take aperient medicine—we then made another appointment—at my second examination I recapitulated all the questions, asked him whether he was in sober seriousness in answering them all as he had before; and having heard that he was a perfectly moral person, not at all addicted to falsehood, whether, if those questions were submitted to him to take his oath to them, he would swear they were correct—he said he was perfectly ready to do so—my feeling is that he is labouring under a misconception amounting to unsound mind—I have no question about it, that he is of unsound mind—Dr. Philip was present the whole of the first examination, and part of the second—I believe he came to the same conclusion—Mr. M'Murdo, Dr. Philip, and myself, all came to the same conclusion—convulsive fits are occasionally incidental to this state of mind, where it is induced through external injury—I have heard of the injury he sustained when nine years old—I should expect that fits would be the consequence of the state of mind induced by such a blow—it is frequently so, not always—I think he seemed to speak to me perfectly seriously.

MR. ATTORNEY-GENERAL. Q. You had been apprised on all the points on which he had committed any absurdity before this by the family, and you directed his attention to those circumstances one after the other? A. Yes—I did not examine his hands—I examined his head—there is a mark over the right eye—there is an indication of a serious injury having been received some time before—it did not appear externally of that character to produce epilepsy, or the description of fits which he afterwards had—the injury must be internal—I should say the external injury did not fully correspond to the history of the case; there was not sufficient, but on examining the eye, and perceiving partial amaurosis, it appeared to correspond with the injury—I understood him to be subject to fits after the injury—the only description I had of him from Dr. Philip was that he exhibited a maniacal character at the time of the fits—I was aware that he was under a charge of felony at the time of my examination—I did not suspect anything like guile in him, nor anything at all insincere in his replies—he was excessively candid in his statement, which corresponded with everything I had heard—I could not doubt he was sincere in his answers—his designating himself a colonel in my presence I thought a continuance of the delusion.

Q. Have you any means of judging whether the statement of a person is asimilated or not? A. It is merely from coupling his description of the state of things with what was communicated to me—he confessed to not being able to sleep at night, and going to bed in the day-time—that was one thing which struck me as a proof of his condition of mind—if I had not seen him at all, and heard nothing but what the witnesses have stated to-day, assuming it to be true, I should conceive it was a case made out of unsound mind—I think there is certainly an imbecility of mind; the mind being highly susceptible of erroneous impressions, the delusion will establish itself, and the mind cannot get rid of it; I mean his adhering to being a colonel in the 16th Lancers.

Q. Under what delusion do you suppose he laboured at the time he committed these frauds on the Post-office? A. His having signed himself antecedent to that as Colonel James Brown, is a proof of that opinion; and the reason he gives, that it was to assist the State and get promotion—his not being able to stand the disappointment on a previous occasion, and having taken laudanum, is another, proof his mind was not capable of containing itself after the disappointment—I think he laboured under a delusion at the time he committed this offence, which tempted him to do it.

DR. WILSON PHILIP . I know the prisoner—I have heard the substance of the testimony given to-day—I have repeatedly examined the prisoner, with a view to ascertain the state of his mind, and in my judgment he is of unsound mind.

MR. ATTORNEY-GENERAL. Q. How often has he been under your examination? A. I should say three or four times—I first examined him within the last month, after he was committed to prison—but I conceive when I was first called to him, rather more than two years ago, he was then in a great measure in his present condition—I can give but an indistinct account of what passed then, because I was much engaged in the practice of medicine, and never made any memorandum of what passed—but I know that I declared his to be a case of insanity at that time, and the name I gave it was monomania—I cannot speak positively as to the point on which the monomania showed itself, as it is so long since—but I have no doubt the impression on my mind at that time was, that, on a particular subject, his mind was diseased, I do not recollect what the subject was—if I had not used the term monomania, I should not have known that I considered his case a madness of that particular description—I conceived, from the conversation I had with him at that time, that his derangement was on one particular subject, but then, in that conversation, we might have happened to turn to that particular subject—he was not in a fit when I was first called in—I do not recollect saying, if the surgeon had bled him he would have killed him, but I am told I said so—I think I saw him several times, but I cannot remember.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Have you any difficulty in now pronouncing on oath that it is your opinion he is not at present of sound mind? A. That is my opinion, and I give it as decidedly as I ever gave a medical opinion—my experience in these cases has not been so extensive as Dr. Sutherland's—I have had many opportunities of seeing people whose minds were affected.

MR. GILBERT M'MURDO . I am surgeon of the gaol of Newgate, and have been so thirteen years—I have had opportunities of examining and conversing with the prisoner, to test his state of mind, and I have heard the evidence given by the members of his family to-day—I was not aware

of those circumstances previously—from the opportunities I have had of seeing him, and from the evidence to-day, I believe him to be of unsound mind.

MR. ATTORNEY-GENERAL. Q. State the reasons of that opinion? A. I addressed him, understanding there was some doubt about his state of mind, previous to my hearing of the facts given in evidence, and asked how he could commit the act he was accused of—he said, "I did it, but I did it in order to get promotion—I have endeavoured in vain, and my friends have endeavoured in vain, to get me another place in the Postoffice; and I wished to convince Lord Lowther how frequently frauds might be committed; and I did this to prove my assertion; and I have no doubt I shall now be promoted"—I have been obliged to examine a great many who have asimilated madness, medically, to trace it—I think or experience enables me to discover the difference between an asimilated statement and a correct statement—I notice the conduct of the prisoner at other times—I have examined him three or four times.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. I believe I have heard you, after the examinination of parties represented as insane, detecting circumstances out of which the asimilation was carried on? A. I have caught several—I believe the statement made by the prisoner to be sincere.

COURT. Q. You are in the habit of making observations, with a view to ascertain, as far as you can, whether the cases are asimilated or genuine? A. Repeatedly, from my connexion with the gaol—my opinion it, that this is genuine, and not asimilated.

NOT GUILTY.—Being Insane.

Before Edward Bullock, Esq.

Reference Number: t18420919-2753

2753. JOHN DELANEY was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of September, 4 shirts, value 4s.; and 1 handkerchief, value 4s.; the goods of John Petterson; and 1 frock, value 1s., the goods of Job Willingham; and that he had been before convicted of felony; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 35.— Transported for Seven Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2754

2754. JOHN CANE, BENJAMIN CHERRY , and JAMES JONES , were indicted for stealing, on the 29th of August, 3 live tame rabbits, price 10s., the goods of James Thomas Wheatley; and that Cane had been before convicted of felony.

JOHN ALEXANDER LOUDAN . I am apprentice to Mr. James Thomas Wheatley, of Waterloo Dock, Commercial-road, Lambeth—he had some live tame rabbits—I saw them safe in a hutch, in a barn, in the dock, on Sunday afternoon, the 28th of August, about four o'clock—on Monday morning, the 29th, about nine o'clock, they were gone—the top of the barn had been taken off, and they had been taken that way—I saw them afterwards at the station—they were my master's—these now produced are them.

WILLIAM GEERS (police-constable L 98.) On the morning of the 29th of August, I was in the New Cut, Lambeth—I saw the three prisoners in the Three Compasses—Cane had got something in his breast—I watched and saw Cherry go to a butt which was behind him—I did not see what he did there—I found on Cane this small grey rabbit in his breast, and in Jones's breast this black rabbit—Cherry then held himself out for me to search him—I found no rabbit on him, but a great quantity of grey and white hairs about him—I found a blue handkerchief on a small barrel by

the side of the butt I had seen him go to, and the handkerchief had hairs on it as well—I took the prisoners to the station, and then I heard of a rabbit being at the back of the butt which I had seen Cherry go to—I went there and found this other rabbit—Cane and Jones said they had bought them for 2s. at Blackfriars-bridge.

Cane. I said Jones bought them for 2s., and I took one of them.

SAMUEL CHREES . I am servant to Mr. Jones, of the Three Compasses, in the New Cut. The prisoners came in there together between four and half-past four o'clock in the morning on the 29th of August—Cherry had a bundle wrapped in a blue handkerchief—I saw him go behind the butt—I then missed the parcel, and he was opening the handkerchief to put it round his neck—the officer took the prisoners—I found a rabbit in a basket at the back of the butt where Cherry bad been.

Canes Defence. I was walking along Blackfriars, and saw Jones talking to a man who had these rabbits in a sack; the man said he should have them for 2s.; Jones asked me to carry one for him, and we went into the public-house out of the rain.

Cherry's Defence. These two boys were sitting in the public-house; they asked if I would look at a rabbit, they showed me one; I caught it in my arms; I left it, and said I was going to work, that was the one the officer pulled out of the basket.

Jones's Defence. A man asked me to buy some rabbits; I gave him 2s. for them.

EDMUND M'DOHNEL (police-constable M 96.) I produce a certificate of Cane's former conviction, which I got from the Clerk of the Peace of Surrey—(read)—the prisoner is the person.

CANE*— GUILTY . Aged 18.

CHERRY*— GUILTY . Aged 18.

Transported for Seven Years.

JONES— GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2755

2755. JAMES HILSLEY was indicted for stealing, on the 2nd of August, 2 sovereigns, 4 shillings, 8 pence, and 1 halfpenny, the monies of Abraham Buckas, from his person.

ABRAHAM BUCKAS . I am a native of Bombay. On a Monday night, about a month ago, I had been to the play with my wife, my brother, and his wife—I returned with them to Kent-street—I saw the prisoner in the street—he pushed me down twice—he beat me, and kicked me, and tore my frock—he was upon me on the ground, and put his hand into my frock-pocket, and took my money—there were other persons there, but none but the prisoner robbed me.

Prisoner. On the Sunday I came home, and happened to catch hold of his dog, and all this is for spite. Witness. I said, "Give me my dog," and he said, "Go along, you black b—," and on the Monday night this fellow robbed me.

SARAH BUCKAS . I am the wife of John Buckas, the prosecutor's brother. I saw that the prosecutor had his money before he went out of the room to go to the play—when we came back, I saw the prisoner and some other persons at the top of the court—I saw the prosecutor and the prisoner fighting together—I saw them both on the ground—the prosecutor called out that this man had robbed him of his money—I can swear the prisoner is the man I saw struggling with him.

CHARLES THOMPSON (police-constable M 32.) I went to the White

Bear, and took the prisoner—I told him he was given into custody by the black man for robbing him of two sovereigns—he said, very well, he would go with me, but he was sorry he did not serve the black b—worse, and if he had robbed him of two sovereigns, he must have robbed somebody else of it first.

Prisoner's Defence. No one can say I ever robbed them of any thing; the prosecutor told my daughter that it was not me that robbed him, but another man.


Reference Number: t18420919-2756

2756. JOHN HOLDEN, alias Howden, was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of July, 1 waistcoat, value 6s.; 1 shilling, 1 sixpence, 1 penny, 2 halfpence; and 1 key, value 2d.; the goods of William Dixon; and that he had been before convicted of felony.

WILLIAM DIXON . I am in the employ of Mr. Smith, a cooper, in Mount-street, Southwark. The prisoner was in the same employ, at as occasional labourer. On the 26th of July I took off my waistcoat, about five o'clock—I put it close to ray bench where I was at work—when I was leaving about seven, I could not find it—I had 1s. 6d. in silver, 2 1/4 d., and the key of my trunk, in it—this is my waistcoat, and this is my key.

TARANCE PURCELL . I was foreman at Mr. Smith's. On the 26th of July, between five and six o'clock in the afternoon, I was at the shop, and saw the prisoner shifting the casks from one side to the other—about eight o'clock next morning he came to work—we were then searching for the waistcoat—the prosecutor said it must be two men whom I had employed a few days who took it, and he accused them of it—I said to the prisons, "John, I am afraid you took it; if you did, acknowledge it, and let the man have his key"—he told me to take care what I said—on the morning of the 29th I saw him in the Maze—he had a bulk in his bosom—I took him hy the shoulder, and demanded to see what he had—he refined to show me—he wanted me to let him go, and said I should not search him—I gave him up to the officer—he then said, if I would forgive him, and look over it, he would never do it again.

WILLIAM SMITH (police-constable M 170.) I received the prisoner on the 29th of July—I took this waistcoat from his breast, and found in it this box key and 1 1/4 d.

GEORGE OFPERD (police-constable M 108.) I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction, which I got from the office of the Clerk of the Peace for Surrey—(read)—the prisoner is the man.

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Twelve Months.

Before Mr. Common Sergeant.

Reference Number: t18420919-2757

2757. THOMAS PORTER was indicted for embezzlement.

JOSEPH SHAW . I am a baker, and live in Coburg-place, Kennington-lane. The prisoner was in my employ—it was his duty to receive money for me, and pay it to me the same day—if he received 3s. on the 9th of September, or 12s. 9 1/2 d. on the 13th, he has not paid me—I have his own signature to the bills to show that he received the money.

HORACE SNOW . I paid the prisoner 3s. 1/2 d. on the 9th of September, for his master.

JOHN BROOM MORRIS . I have my bread of Mr. Shaw—I produce bill of 13s. 2 1/2 d., I saw the bill come in, and my wife paid it to the prisoner.

MR. SHAW re-examieed. The bill I made out to Mr. Morris was for 12s. 9 1/2 d., the prisoner did not deliver that, but this other for 13s. 2 1/2 d.—the receipt to this is in the prisoner's writing—he never paid me this, or any part of it—he had been with me seven or eight weeks.

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2758

2758. ARTHUR WOOD was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of August, 34 loaves of bread, value 16s., the goods of Robert King, his master.

ROBERT KING . I am a baker, and live in York-road, Lambeth. The prisoner was in my employ about two months ago—on the 30th of August he took thirty-four loaves out for Mr. Marlow—he returned me no money—on the 31st he took the same number again, and returned no money—on the 1st of September he took the same again—I booked the bread—on the 5th of September he told me that Mr. Marlow never had bad the bread, but he had sold it.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. He mentioned to you the name of some person who had had it? A. No, sir—he did not mention that old Whittle had had the particular lot of bread that he took out on the 30th August—he said that the old general, meaning Whittle, had had some—I know that Whittle buys my damaged bread—I received 1l. of the prisoner, but not on account of the bread sent for Marlow, but a man named Boddington—he booked 1l. 10s. to him, and he gave me 1l. for him on the 6th of September—when he took out this bread to Marlow on the 30th of August, he had no more in his basket—I did not agree for him to pay me at 5s. a week.

COURT. Q. Did you send him with this bread on the 30th specifically for Mr. Marlow, or might he have sold it to anybody? A. No, it was specifically for Mr. Marlow—I do not know where he sold that bread—Mr. Boddington's account is 1l. 13s. 4d. for bread delivered on the 26th, 27th, and 29th of August, and on that account he paid me a sovereign on the 6th of September—I knew Mr. Boddington as a customer, but I did not know him personally till I called upon him afterwards.

WILLIAM MARLOW . I did not receive any bread by the prisoner from Mr. King since the 8th of August.

Cross-examined. Q. You declined taking it? A. Yes, because the bread was not to my satisfaction—my customers objected to it—I did not decline taking it from any thing the prisoner did,

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY. Aged 42.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury.— Confined Four Months.

(There were two other indictments against the prisoner.)

Reference Number: t18420919-2759

2759. ELIZABETH NORRIS was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of August, 20 yards of flannel, value 20s. the goods of Henry Batchelor and another.

HENRY BATCHELOR . I am a linen-draper, and live in Wellington-street, Southwark, I have one partner. On the 12th of August I saw this flannel in the lobby of my shop, about nine o'clock in the morning—when I retorned home at two I missed it—this now proeuced is it.

CHARLES CHAMBERS (City police-constable, No. 523.) I saw the prisoner about a quarter before two on the 12th of August, going up Water-lane, Lower Thames-street, with something bulky under her shawl—I

found it was this flannel—she said she had found it near Shoreditch church.

Prisoner's Defence. A woman asked me to carry it for her, and said she would give me 6d.; I had it about a quarter of an hour when the policeman came.

GUILTY .* Aged 16.— Transported for Seven Years.

Reference Number: t18420919-2760

2760. CATHERINE JONES was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of September, 1 glass tumbler, value 1s. 3d., the goods of William Shenton.

THOMAS DRAPER . I am in the employ of Mr. William Shenton, of the Turk's Head, Old Kent-road—this tumbler is his—his name is on it.

Prisoner. You know you gave me that glass, Tom, out of your tea-tray; you promised me a broken glass did not you? Witness. I never promised it her and never gave it her—she sells matches and books—she has come in and asked for half a pint of beer, which I have given her.

BENJAMIN LOVELL (police-sergeant R 15.) I took the prisoner, with a basket—I asked her what she had got—she said, "Matches and books"—I found this glass in it—she said, "I had that given me"—I asked her where—she said, "It will be time enough to say to-morrow."

GUILTY . Aged 34.— Confined One Month.

Reference Number: t18420919-2761

2761. ANN PICKERING was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of August, 4 sheets, value 5s., and 1 flat iron, value 1s., the goods of Cornelius James Nehan.

ELLEN MORRIS . I live with Cornelius James Nehan, a lodging-house keeper, in Kent-street, Borough—the prisoner lodged there—I missed three sheets out of her room, a flat iron out of my room, and a sheet out of another bed-room.

Prisoner. I was in emergency, and pledged two of them; the other two I know nothing about.

CHARLES THOMPSON (police-constable M 32.) I produce these sheets and flat iron, which I got from the pawnbroker's—the prisoner was given to me on the 31st of August—she denied all knowledge of taking them—when she was before the Magistrate she acknowledged taking the flat iron and sheets—she did not tell me any thing before that—this is my signature to this deposition.

Q. What did you mean by telling the Magistrate this, "This day I heard the prisoner say she did pledge the four sheets?" A. It must be a mistake, I never mentioned any thing of the kind before the Magistrate—I never heard her say any thing of the kind—she never acknowledged taking them till she was before the Magistrate.


Reference Number: t18420919-2762

2762. ANN PICKERING was again indicted for stealing, on the 6th of July, 1 shirt, value 4s. 6d., the goods of Sarah Phillips, her mistress.

SARAH PHILLIPS . I am single—I am an outfitter, and live in Gravel-lane—the prisoner was in my employ—I lost a shirt—this is it—I saw it safe on the 6th of July—I afterwards saw it in pledge.

CHARLES THOMPSON (police-constable M 32.) When the prisoner was searched, the duplicate of this shirt was found upon her by the female

searcher, who is not here—I did not see it found.


Reference Number: t18420919-2763

2763. EVAN DAVIS was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of July, 5 cards, value 1s. 3d., the goods of William Holliday, his master.

WILLIAM HOLLIDAY . I am a writer, and live in Compton-street, Soho—I employed the prisoner as a traveller—these five cards are part of some patterns which I delivered to the prisoner on the 12th of July—he was not to sell these, hut to get orders from them—he should have brought these back to me the same day, but I did not see him, nor the cards—these now produeed are part of what I gave him.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES. Q. How long have you known him? A. Some years—he was in a respectable business as a hosier—he has always borne the character of a respectable man—I first employed him about the middle of June, as a town-traveller—I think I delivered him forty or fifty different kinds of cards on the 12th of July—they are for grocers and other persons to put in their windows—I swear he was not authorized to sell any of them—they are not what I consider saleable—I merely gave them to him as patterns—I forbade him selling these, because I thought he was not to be trusted with the money.

FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS HUDSON . I am a grocer, and live in the Kent-road—I purchased these five tickets of the prisoner for 1s. 3d.

Cross-examined. Q. I believe you repented of your bargain? A. No, I put them in my window and at the door,

GUILTY . Aged 38.

Reference Number: t18420919-2764

2764. EVAN DAVIS was again indicted for embezzlement.

WILLIAM JAMES DAILEY . I employed the prisoner as a traveller on the lst of June to go round to publicans and other tradesmen with showbills—I gave him 149 bills, worth between 37. and 4l.—he never returned to me, nor paid me any money—he never paid me 1s. 6d. on the 4th of June, which be ought to have done the day he received it.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES. Q. On what terms did you engage him? A. On a commission of one third of the amount of the bills disposed of—he would have been entitled to 6d. out of this 1s. 6d. if this had been the proper price for these, it should have been 2s. 10d., he would have been entitled to nearly 1s. on them.

FREDERICK MATTHEWS . I bought half-a-dozen bills of the prisoner on the 4th of June, and paid him 1s. 6d. for them.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 38.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2765

2765. WILLIAM ATKINSON and JOHN BYRNS were indicted for stealing, on the 8th of September, 1 bag, value 2s.; 100lbs. weight of bacon, value 17s.; and 35lbs. weight of pork, value 3s.; the goods of Thomas Dare and others, their masters.

MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS DARE . I am a partner in the firm of Richard Wilson and another—we are wharfingers in South wark—Byrns was in our employ, and Atkinson was employed occasionally—we have bacon and pork cuttings—they are our property exclusively, and Byrns, who has been eight or nine years in our service, knew this—it is our custom to sell these cuttings at different times, and at the end of the year we make our men a present out of the produce of them—that is at our discretion, and that is all the interest the men can have in them.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. But it is a discretion that is always exercised? A. Yes, we have never discontinued it—these cuttings are worth 1l.

SAMUEL DENNIS . I am a carter in the employ of Mr. Poulter—I went to the prosecutors', which is called Carpenter Smith's Wharf, to fetch some goods on the 8th of September—after I had got my load Byrns asked if I would take a bag up the lane (Atkinson was close by at the time)—the bag was lying there and I agreed to carry it—both the prisoners together put it on the cart, and I went with it—Atkinson came after me, and when I got to the end of the lane, he took the bag on his back off the top of the barrels, and went away with it—it was just such a bag as the one now produced.

JAMES GARRATT . I am a cooper in the prosecutors' service. On the 8th of September I was on their premises—I saw both the prisoners there, and I saw Poulter's cart on the wharf—I afterwards saw Atkinson down Mill-lane with a sack, which I believe was the sack produced, on his back—I spoke to him—he took the sack to Mr. Lucy, who is a dealer in fat—I cannot say positively whether the prosecutors' men have any right to dispose of the cuttings, but I believe they have not—I have the power to have them removed and to sell them—I have done so, and sent the money to the counting-house—I had authority from my master to sell them, but I had no authority to sell these.

DANIEL LUCY . I am a dealer in fat. On the 8th of September, about half-past six o'clock, Atkinson came to my place—I asked him what he had got, he made no answer, but just stepped in and heaved a sack off his back—Garratt came to the door, and said, "Well done, Bill!"—I said, "If this belongs to you, take it away, I know nothing of it"—I do not know whether this is the bag, it looks like it—no one took possession of it—it was in my place—when Garratt said, "Well done, Bill!" he put his hand on the bag—I gave him a knife out of my pocket, and he cut it open, and it contained bacon cuttings—there was no other bag on my premises containing cuttings—there was plenty in tubs—the bag remained there till next morning—when Garratt came up, Atkinson walked away—he did not say a word.

ROBERT WOODS (police-constable M 185.) I went to Lucy's premises on the 9th of September, about eleven o'clock, and took possession of this bag, containing bacon cuttings—I saw no other bag there.

MR. DARE re-examined. These are cuttings of bacon and pork—we never allow any thing to go off our premises without a note from the counting-house—when there was a large quantity of bacon cuttings, Garratt would inform us of it, and we should send him for a man to buy them—the man would come, and we should give him a note to receive so much—there was no order given to remove these.

(The prisoners received good characters.)

ATKINSON— GUILTY. Aged 40. Recommended to mercy.

BYRNS— GUILTY. Aged 29. Confined Three Months.

Reference Number: t18420919-2766

2766. JAMES GRISON was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of August, 2 sovereigns, the monies of Thomas Davey; to which he pleaded.

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Three Months.

Before Mr. Recorder.

Reference Number: t18420919-2767

2767. JAMES MAY and EDWARD FLEMING were indicted for stealing, on the 19th of September, 200lbs. weight of eels, value 4l. 10s.; the goods of Ann Gulden arm.

JOSEPH LEWIS . I am a Thames police-inspector. At a quarter before four o'clock, in the morning of the 19th of September, I saw a boat rowing away from some eel vessels, which were lying off Billingsgate—I gave chase and captured the two prisoners in the boat, at the opposite side of the water—in the bottom of the boat were 200lbs. of live eels, and by the side of the boat was this part of a basket, which is used to fasten the eels in with—Fleming was rowing, and May was standing up shoving—there was a dredge in the boat, but it had no rope to it—they said a man gave them 5s. to row the eels to Gravesend,. and not to give them to any one till he came—they were then about thirty miles from Gravesend.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Which of them said this? A. May spoke first, and then Fleming said the same—I asked May how he accounted for the eels? and then be said a man gave them 5s. to take the eels to Gravesend—I took them to the office directly.

COURT. Q. HOW did you find who the eels belonged to? A. I rowed up, and hailed the vessels—the captain came on deck, and said he had lost 200lbs. of eels.

LEONARD FIAS BARGINALL . I am a Thames police-constable—I was with the inspector, and saw May standing in the boat, and Fleming rowing it—May had a kind of eel-basket, and I saw him stoop, as if he was putting something into the bottom of the boat, but what it was I do not know.

Fleming. Q. Did you see us row through the tier? A. Yes, through the tier outside—you might have come down inside—I did not see you come from the ship—you then rowed across the water—I only saw one basket—I do not know what became of it—when I came up to you, there was a small basket in the head of your boat—the inspector picked up another basket in the water—I was alongside the steam-boat when you came through the tier—I thought you had something that did not belong to you, and then I told the inspector there was a basket in your boat—you must have chucked it overboard.

COURT. Q. IS this your signature to this deposition? A. Yes—(the deposition being read, stated, "A basket similar to the one now produced was standing on its end, in the stern of the boat where May was.")

ANNE GURLDENARM . I am captain of an eel-vessel; she was lying off the Custom-house. On the morning of the 19th of September Lewis came to me, and I missed three baskets from the boat at the stern of my vessel, and 200lbs. of eels—I have seen those eels which the officer found—they are the same sort as mine, and weigh the same as those I lost—my eel-baskets had exactly such lids as this basket, and I think this is one of them—I got my eels from the lower part of the coast of Holland—these are about the same weight, about three to a pound—they are kept in a place that the water runs through, and were worth 4l. 8s.

Fleming. Q. You left the eels in the lug-boat? A. Yes, astern of the vessel, in four baskets—there was nobody watching them—they were there at two o'clock—when I got out of bed at five I missed them. MAY**— GUILTY . Aged 25.— Transported for Seven Years. FLEMING— GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined One Year.

Before Mr. Common Sergeant.

Reference Number: t18420919-2768

2768. RICHARD WILMOT was indicted for stealing, on the 28th of August, 8 bushels of malt, value 3l. 10s., the goods of Henry Benjamin Hanbury Beaufoy, his master; and GEORGE STEMP , for feloniously inciting, procuring, counselling, and hiring the said Richard Wilmot to do and commit the said felony.

MESSRS. CLARKSON and DOANE conducted the Prosecution, ISAAC SKEET. I am brewhouse master to Mr. Beaufoy, of South Lambeth; Wilmot was our brewer; Stemp was a customer. On the 29th of August, in consequence of information, I was on the look-out as to what Wilmot might be doing—the dinner hour was one o'clock—the men went to dinner—I did not go that day—I and Wilmot were on the same floor where the barley-stones are—we were grinding, and the furnace was lighted that day, as there was to be brewing going on that day under Wilmot's direction—he did not go to dinner that day—it was his duty to attend to his furnace—he is'the brewhouse foreman—there is a seat and a table for him between the two furnaces—it is the usual place for the brewhouse foreman when tne furnaces are lighted, to take his dinner at—I take my dinner near the same spot, and have in full view the barley stores on which I am working—on that occasion Wilmot took his dinner at the top against the stain, at a considerable distance from the furnace where be ought to be; and from the part where be sat to take his dinner, he could command a view of when I was, and could see through an opening down below stairs—he could see any person who might enter the premises on the ground-floor—just before dinner I had occasion to leave the room in which land Wilmot were, and go down stairs to wash my hands—when you get down it brings you to the pavement yard, on the ground-floor—there were some empty hogsheads and casks standing on the pavement—just by there is the fermentiog-tunstage—when I went down I noticed these casks—there was no sack on any of them, or on the pavement floor, nor on the tun-stage—I washed my hands and returned—there was no sack there then—I found Wilmot up stairs then—my dinner was brought me, and he called to me to go and have it—some time afterwards his dinner was brought—I began eating—Wilmot sat down for a moment, and then he left me and went down—thit would lead him to the tun-stage—he could step on the-tun-stage—it is about five feet from the paved yard—there is a canvas funnel descends from the bins—by putting an empty sack, and untying this canvas funnel, a sack is filled instantaneously—Wilmot returned to the room up stain in a few minutes—during his absence he had sufficient time to draw two sacks of malt from the canvas funnel—I went down stairs again after he had returned up, and there was one sack standing on a hogshead, and another on the tun-stage—they were quite full—I am quite certain that neither of these sacks were there when I went down before—the one on the hogshead was tied up—I found there was malt in the two sacks—in the floor immediately over the pavement there is a well for the purpose of putting up the sacks—I took my station in the room above, after I returned; and while I was leaning over the rope-rail there, Stemp came with a horse and cart in front of the door—there were four full sacks in his cart—Stemp came to the door of the brewing-house, and turned the tail of his cart round to the door—there is an outer gate, about sixty yards from the brewhouse—the well which I was at was just over where these

sacks were, which I had seen in the brewhouse—the door is about forty feet from where the sacks are—a man on the ground could have seen the cart and the casks—Stemp could have seen the sack which was on the cask—he got off his cart, and walked into the brewhouse, and unloaded the sacks from the cart—I asked him if he had got some barley—he said, "Yes, I have got a quarter of barley, a quarter of oats, and a quarter of malt"—that would have made six sacks, and I am confident he only brought four—he placed the four sacks on the pavement floor, about six feet from the sack upon the hogshead—I said he had got no malt there——he said, "No, there stands one there," pointing to the sack of malt that itood on the hogshead—I said, "Yes, I know there is"—he made no answer, but talked about his barley meal, and asked if it was ready—(he had before that brought us some barley meal to grind)—I said, yes, I bad got it ready for him—he then passed out of my sight, went up into the brewhouse, in sight of all the sacks—I heard voices while he was out of my sight—they were Stemp and Wilmot's voices, as if speaking together—I then saw Stemp up stairs—I went with him to the room where we were grinding the barley—I then went back, to convince myself that then were but four sacks which he had brought, and they were exactly as he left them—I then got his meal ready for him—I went with him up to the meal-trough, in the room where my barley stores are—they are in the same room as the furance is, and about twenty yards off—Stemp went with me to the end of the room to get the meal, which I weighed, and gave to Stemp—Wilmot was not there—I heaved the meal on my shoulder, and came down with it, accompanied by Stemp, for the purpose of patting it into Stemp's cart—I came down stairs to where I had left the sacks, and there was then a sack of malt pitched down, just by the four sacks which Stemp brought—there were five sacks there then, and the one was removed from the hogshead—Stemp said he wanted to have his barley, oats, and malt ground—I said it would be ground on the following morning, and said be had not brought any malt—he said he had left it in the morning, as he was going by after coals—he gave me a sixpence, and went off—I found the second sack standing in the same place—after Stemp was gone I told my master.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. This was on the Monday, was it not? A. Yes, about the 29th of August—the sack was placed against the sacks he brought—it was removed some time the next day—I did not move it—I saw Wilmot remove them all, in cleaning up the brewhouse—he placed the one sack with the other four, for me to take up stairs—there was another sack standing on the tun-stage, that stood there when Stemp came with the cart—I did not take the sacks up stairs—they were all six taken up on Thursday evening, I think, and locked up—they remained there all the Wednesday, but they were all sealed up—Stemp is a corndealer in the neighbourhood—he has oftentimes brought malt there—this sack of malt, supposing it to have passed off as Stemp's, would have been charged for by me—it never happens that, without an order, some portion of malt would be taken down the shoots—there is a great quantity taken there to be ground, and a great quantity on the premises which does not belong to Mr. Beaufoy—any one could see this hogshead and tun-stage—they could not fail of seeing any thing there—there are a great many persons employed on the premises, engineers and coopers, and others—I never saw anybody come in at the back-door—they might if it was open, but it

was not open—I was there just before one o'clock, and it was shut—I cannot say whether it was locked—when I was at the well, Wilmot was down stairs one time, and another time sitting on a sack—I was concealed—he did not see me—when Stemp came to the premises Wilmot was at the top of the stairs—I saw Wilmott there when I left at one o'clock—I had seen him there some time before Stemp came in—I am told that the bin No. 1 holds about a hundred quarters—I do not see to it every day—I have been there almost every day since this occurrence—I know they have been taking some malt out of it—whether they measured it or not I cannot say—they drew it out, and put it on the stage—there were no measures there—there were sacks there—they were getting it ready for brewing—they did not put it into the bin again—it was shot into my hopper—Stemp has often given me a sixpence before.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. YOU do not mean you saw Wilmot on the ground-floor? A. No—he was away from five to ten minutes—I never saw him eat his dinner at the place he did before that day—while the meal was being weighed he was lying on a sack near the machine—he did not speak to me or Stemp while I was grinding the barley meal—I never had any dispute with Wilmot—I once told him to take his oats away from the place, they would dirty the malt—he did not remove them.

MR. DOANE. Q. Was Wilmot absent long enough to have moved the sack from the hogshead to the other four? A. Yes—they were in a situation to be seen by anybody—there was no one there but Stemp, Wilmot, and I—the sacks that the malt was shot into were sacks such as Stemp used—Mr. Beaufoy never used such sacks—there was an "M" on one sack.

WILLIAM COOPER . I am brewer at Mr. Beaufoy's. I had the sole charge of the malt—Wilmot was foreman, under me—it was not his duty to draw off any malt from the canvas funnels without a written order from me—the bin, No. 1, contained about 100 quarters at this time—after I had heard about Wilmot and Stemp, I looked at the top of the bin up stairs, it presented the appearance of a conical shaped hole—I should think there had been rather more than two sacks of malt gone, four bushels to the sack—I saw the sack on the tun-stage—I looked, and found it contained malt—I afterwards saw a fifth sack of malt, with four others, containing oats and barley—I saw samples taken from these sacks, and compared with the malt in the bin—Mr. Darby and Mr. Beaufoy examined it in the middle of Tuesday—I heard Mr. Beaufoy tax Wilmot with drawing down the malt without an order—Wilmot said he had drawn it down (referring to the sack on the tun-stage) in consequence of something that I had said in reference to cats dirtying it—the policeman was then sent for—I afterwards looked into a closet used by Wilmot—it contained two sacks, which did not belong to Mr. Beaufoy—I had some conversation about cats with Wilmot—it had no reference to the bin No. 1—it was another bin at the further end of the premises, thirty or forty feet off; there are other bins between them—there had been dirt on the surface of that bin, but that had no reference to No. 1—if there had been dirt on the top of No. 1, it would not have been a likely manner to get rid of it to draw it by the canvas shoot—there is a hopper to bin No. 1—there was some loose malt spilt round the top of this hopper—I said if Mr. Beaufoy came round, he would be displeased at it—it was only a few shovels full spilt—Wilmot could not have got two sacks from what was spilt—I found

no deficiency there, with the exception of what we cleared up—I bad not given Wilmot any order to draw one or two sacks of malt from No. 1—my attention was drawn to the four sacks that Stemp brought between nine and ten on Tuesday morning—I afterwards saw them sealed by Mr. Beaufoy, and they are here now.

Cross-examined by MR. CHARNOCK. Q. Mr. Beaufoy is a vinegar merchant? A. Yes—I have occasionally seen Stemp come in—he has been in the habit of bringing barley, oats, and malt there to be ground—I never was present at the measurement of any of these bins—I know No. 1 holds 100 quarters, from receiving the last delivery—I gave directions where it should be shot—the remaining part we sacked up, and put apart—I was not present at the shooting of the malt, but I know from comparative measurement of the next bin that is of the same size—I know there was more than two sacks deficient from No. 1.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Did not the quantity of malt that you say the cats had dirtied, come from the bins having been too full, and spilling over? A. No, it came from a full sack that had been pitched there—if the bin had beeri overloaded, it would not have been the easiest way to have drawn it down from the bottom—the larger bin is not covered—it might run over from the larger bin—there is a top to the bin NO. 1.

MR. DOANE. Q. Were the other bins on that stage full or empty? A. Empty—the only way it could run from No. 1, is in front, and that was provided against by an inclined plane.

HENRY DARBY . I am in the employ of Mr. Beaufoy. On the 29th of August, from what Skeet told me, I drew a sample from No. 1 bin, and compared it with a sample taken from the two sacks—I believe they are all three alike—they correspond—the two sacks were worth about 605.—I believe it was Mr. Beaufoy's malt.

Cross-examined by MR. CHARNOCK. Q. YOU would not pledge yourself positively that it is Mr. Beaufoy's malt? A. No, the same person might have furnished other people—I am positive it is the same malting—Stemp has been in the habit of bringing various things to me crushed—he has borne a very good character.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Did you hand over the samples to any other person? A. I saw them sealed up by Mr. Beaufoy, and put into a box.

WILLIAM CROSS . I am one of the prosecutor's porters. I attend at the gate—I was on duty from Sunday night till twelve o'clock on Monday—Stemp did not come in with any sack that morning.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. I suppose you will not be quite sure of that? A. Yes—there is a public-house near there—I never go there—I was not there that morning—I went on duty at twelve o'clock at night—I was on till twelve at noon—I got my breakfast in the room of the lodge—there are sixty or seventy persons on the premises—very few people call before twelve—there might have been carts come—I cannot say whether any brought any thing to be ground—people are constantly bringing things to be ground—there were not twenty men came in and out that day—a great deal of malt is brought and taken away—I keep the door, but I am never away when it is open—there is no other way for things to come in—there are not other gates to the premises for public tilings to come in.

MR. DOANE. Q. YOU keep the gate closed till some one rings? A. Yes—the other gates are very narrow.

RICHARD ATLEE . I am head gardener to Mr. Beaufoy. There in certain private gates connected with the garden and pleasure-grounds—I have the keys of those gates—I did not let any one in at these gates on that Monday morning—the wicket gate is in the large gates.

JOHN GEER . I am in the service of Mr. Beaufoy, under Wilmot, I trimmed the bin No. 1, to prevent the cats scattering the malt—there was none drawn out after I trimmed it, till the Monday.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. When did you leave it? A. A good while ago, I had not seen it for a long time.

HENRY BENJAMIN HANBURY BEAUFOY . I am a vinegar merchant, brewer, and miller. I live in South Lambeth—I have no partner—my attention was first called to this on the Tuesday morning—I saw tone samples taken from the two sacks and the bin No. 1.—I have beet in this business since 1805—according to my judgment they correspond in every respect—I had information and kept a look-out—I asked Wilmot if he had drawn the malt out of No. 1 bin—he said he had done it—I then asked by whose order, and after repeating the question at least half a dozen times, he said, by order of Mr. Cooper, he had desired him to draw from the bin because the cats had dirtied—I went up to the floor afterwards and the bins were closed, so there could have been no scattering from the other bins.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q, YOU have had dealing with Stemp? A. I know no more of him than seeing him in the yard often—I did not know his name till this—I buy malt—Mr. Mahew buys it for me at Mark-lane of Randall, Howell, and Randall—they are factors—they deal as agents for other people—I do not sell malt—if a person sends malt to my premises to be crushed it goes out again.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. There is a top-floor to your premises? A. Yes, and a middle floor, and No. 1 bin is below the top floor—the malt is put in from the top floor—if the bin was choked, the way to lower it would be to trim it back—no person would draw it off—if the spout could be choaked, it might be drawn off.

ALFRED SPICE (police-constable V 41.) I took the prisoners on the 30th—I took a sample from a sack pointed out by Skeet—I after that saw a sample in the hand of Emerson, it seemed to me to be the same—the sacks were sealed in my presence.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. What do you know about malt? A. I was bred up among corn, and used to thrash—I have ground malt on my master's premises.

THOMAS EMERSON (police-sergeant V 16.) I took this sample of malt from bin No. 1—I took Stemp into custody on the 30th, near the Black Horse, Brixton-road—he seemed very much confused, and said he nothing about it—I asked him how many sacks of corn he took to Beaufoy's the day before—he said, five sacks, two of oats, two of barley, and one of malt—as we were going to the station, he asked me if I was a right one, if I was, money should be no object, if I could tell him what to say to get out of this—I said I was not in a situation to advise him, I could say nothing to him about it—about two minutes after, he said he carried the sack of malt on his back into Mr. Beaufoy's yard in the morning when he went to Vauxhall-road for coals.

Cross-examined by MR. CHARNOCK. Q. This was on the Tuesday? A. Yes. No one was present at this conversation—I made no memorandum of it—I have got one case here beside this—the prisoner appeared very confused—he made no resistance.

GEORGE CHARLES FLETCHER . I am clerk to the Wandsworth Magistrate. I was present at the examination of Wilmot—he made a statement—I took it down in writing—this is Mr. Thomas Paynter the Magistrates signature—what he said was correctly taken down, word for word—(read)—"The prisoner, Richard Wilmot, says, When I was asked how that malt came there, I said I drawed it down; I was asked by whose orders, I said by Mr. Cooper's and Mr. Skeet's, and the reason for my drawing it down, which was on last Friday, was, Mr. Cooper and me being on the top floor, looking behind the glass door, I observed the malt standing above the floor; he asked me what it did there? I told him that the malt had been shot into the bin until it would go no further; Mr. Cooper told me I had better take it up, and said if Mr. Beaufoy came up he would not like to see it lay there, because he objected to the cats dirtying in it; that was all that passed then between Mr. Cooper and me. In the course of the day Mr. Skeet found fault of the cats dirtying in the malt, and said that unless it was took up it would stop his roller; that is all that pasted between him and me; and accordingly I went down stairs and took a tack from about fifty, some with one mark and some with another—after I had drawed it down I placed it against the wall at the back of the tun; there is a mark on the sack "M" in red, and I think it is marked "24" in red, that is all I have to say; the sack I refer to is the one that stood on the stage floor; the malt I drew was from bin No. 1."

ISAAC SKEET re-examined. I made no statement to Wilmot about the cats' dirt stopping my roller, it would not stop my roller.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. The cats' dirt and malt together would stop the roller? A. No, it could not get to the roller—I complained that the cats' dirt got into the malt on the screen, and I had to clean it

(The prisoners received good characters.)


STEMP— GU1LTY . Adec 35.

Confined Eighteen Months.

Before Edward Bullock, Esq.

Reference Number: t18420919-2755a

2755. ELIZA MILES was indicted for concealing the birth of her child.


Reference Number: t18420919-2756a

2756. MARY ANN MUNDAY was indicted for a like offence.



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