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Taken in Short-hand,








On the Queen's Commission of the Peace,



The City of London,





Held on Monday, April 2, 1838, and following Days.

Before the Right Honourable Sir JOHN COWAN, Bart., LORD MAYOR of the City of London; Right Honourable Sir Nicholas Conyngham Tindal, Chief Justice of Her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; Right Honourable James, Lord Abinger, Chief Baron of Her Majesty's Court of Exchequer; Sir James Parke, Knt., one of the Barons of Her Majesty's Court of Exchequer; Sir John Pattison, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Queen's Bench; Sir Thomas Coltman, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; Sir Claudius Stephen Hunter, Bart.; Sir William Heygate, Bart.; Matthias Prime Lucas, Esq.; Sir John Key, Bart. Sir Peter Laurie, Knt.; and Charles Farebrother, Esq., Aldermen of the said City; the Honourable Charles Ewan Law, Recorder of the said City; Sir Chapman Marshall, Knt.; James Harmer, Esq.; John Pirie, Esq.; Thomas Wood, Esq.; John Lainson, Esq.; James White, Esq.; and John Humphery, Esq., Aldermen of the said City of London; John Mirehouse, Esq., Common Sergeant of the said City; and William St. Julien Arabin, Sergeant at Law; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.


First Jury.

William Hill

John Webb

Thomas Beeching

Alfred Brett

John Brooksbank.

William Redman

Edward Chapman

Allen Millen

George Holloway

George Lawn

James Holland

William Alben

Second Jury.

James Hurren

James Finer

John Box

James Pattison

Henry Ebbs

Richard Allerton

William Honour

Maurice Barnard

Thomas Otley

Thomas Anderson

Thomas Collier

George Deal

Third Jury.

Edward Benton

William Hill

Adolphus Ackerman

Walter Borthwick

Charles Gooding Cavill

Henry William Gellinghurst

George Dyett

Benjamin Burford

Henry Carter

Leonard Humphrey Ball

William Lane

John Dight

Fourth Jury.

Jeremiah Downes

Charles Day

David Anderson

Job Davis

Thomas Courtney

William Bedford

John Abbot

William Frederick Eyre

John Buckman

Frederick Steven London

William Cull

John Cantis

Fifth Jury.

William Butterfield

George Hollingdale

Robert Davey

William Dicker

Joseph Haysh Carr

Samuel Ferdinand Morris

George Bredon

John Cowper

William Brown

James Binyon Cooper

William Day

William Bellamy

Sixth Jury.

George Adolphus Clark

William Child

John Bowens

Mathew Alder

Francis Besterby

Thomas Hill

Benjamin Baker

John Matthews

John Carey

Thomas Crawford

John Atkins

Benjamin Norton



A star (*) denotes that the prisoner has been previously in custody—An obelisk (†), that the prisoner is known to be associate of bad characters.


OLD COURT.—Monday, April 2nd 1838.

First Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-909
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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909. THOMAS NORTON was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of December, 1 mare, price 2l. the property of Alfred Hill.

ALFRED HILL . I am a jobber, and live at Chaste-side, Enfield. On the 15th of December I turned my mare-pony out on Chase Green-common—I missed her next morning, and on the 18th I found her at Edmonton, in possession of Walledge, a policeman—it was delivered up to me—she is worth 2l.

JOHH WALLEDGE . I am one of the Edmonton police. On Saturday morning, the 16th of December, about four o'clock, I was on duty at Winchmore-hill, and saw the prisoner and his brother William with a pony, in Hopper's-lane—William was leading it, and the prisoner driving it—it was in an hempen halter—they were about three miles, from Chase Green-common—it was the same pony as was afterwards claimed and delivered up to Hill—I suspected by their manner that it was not their own property, and asked them about it—they both said they were going to take it to the pound, but they were going in a different direction—they were on the way to London—I took the horse from William Norton, and led it myself—I told them I was not satisfied, and they must go with me—we went for a quarter of a mile, or further—I questioned them closely, and not being satisfied with their answers, I took out my truncheon to secure them, and William ran away—I secured the prisoner—William was taken a fortnight afterwards, and tried—the prisoner was committed to the House of Correction as a vagabond, and was there at the time of William 's trial—he was afterwards taken for this.

Q. How was the prisoner driving the mare? A. He was following close behind his brother, by the side of the pony, patting it with his hands, encouraging it to go on.

Prisoner. I had not met my brother ten minutes before the officer overtook

me—I told him where I had been sleeping that night, and I never offered to run away. Witness. He told the Magistrate he had been lying under a hay-stack the night before he met his brother—I asked the spot, which he described, and on that spot there was no hay-stack at the time.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-910
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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910. ADELAIDE PAGET was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of January, 1 watch, value 20s., the goods of Charles Harding.

MARY ANN HARDING . I am the wife of Charles Harding, who keeps the Three Compasses public-house, in Glasshouse-street, Whitechapel. On the 13th of January the prisoner hired a furnished room in Compasses court, which runs up by the side of our house. On the following Wednesday I employed her to clean part of our house—I had a watch hanging in the bar parlour—I missed it that evening, when the prisoner had not beta gone five minutes—my husband was serving in the bar at the time she went—I directly went to her room with the police-sergeant, but saw no more of her till she was apprehended—the watch was worth about 1l.—I did not lend it to her—she was apprehended about a fortnight after—my husband happened to meet her accidentally in the highway.

Prisoner. Q. Was I employed in your house? A. Yes—when you came in the morning you said you were very cold, and I lent you an old shawl—you were cleaning the bar out—I did not lend you the watch to pledge—you did not ask me to lend you money on a monthly note, and I did not say I would if my husband would do so—nothing of the sort passed—a monthly note was shown to my husband, to be left with us as a sort of security, but I never lent you the watch.

Q. Did not I leave money at your bar on Monday night, and in the morning spend every farthing I had with you in drink, which was the change of a sovereign I got from a captain? and did not you tell me in the morning, "I have got money belonging to you?" A. No, you paid me 3s. 6d. in advance for a week's rent, that is all the money I received from you, except what you might have spent at the bar, that I know nothing about—you took the room on the 13th, and on the 17th took the watch.

Prisoner. I left money with her to get a gown out of pawn—she was very much in liquor at the time—she told the Magistrate I was a stranger to her—he said it was singular I should be allowed to be in the bar-parlour—then she said I was a friend. Witness. I did not consider her any thing but a stranger, not having seen her till she took the room.

THOMAS ARNOLD . I am a policeman. I apprehended the prisoner at the desire of Charles Harding—he gave her into my custody for stealing a watch—she said she did not steal it, but Mrs. Harding had lent it her to pledge to raise a little money.

Prisoner. Q. Did not the prosecutrix acknowledge to the Magistrate that she and I had three quarterns of rum together that night? A. I do not recollect any thing of the kind.

THOMAS GEORGE SIZER . I am foreman to Mr. Kennedy, pawnbroker, in High-street, Shadwell. I produce a watch, which was pawned on the 18th of January, by the prisoner, for 10s.—she said it was her own, and gave the name of Poynt, High-street.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

Prisoner's Defence. I did not say it was my own—he never asked me

my name—I had taken a room of Mrs. Harding on the Saturday previous, and paid her the rent on Saturday—on Monday night I was cleaning the up-room, having been employed in the bar, and then went out went out with her—she gave me money to buy grocery at a shop—we then went into a public-house, and had three quarterns of rum—I had received a letter from my husband to go to a young man's mother, and not being respectable, as they had always seen me, I asked Mrs. Harding to lend me money on a monthly note—she said she would, if Mr. Harding agreed to it—he refused, and while we were out drinking she said she would lend me the watch to pawn, provided I would get it out of pawn by the first of February—I went out the next morning, and pawned the watch for 10s.—I had broken my arm that night—about a fortnight after I met the prosecutor walking with a gentleman, and spoke to him—he said I was the person he wanted, where was his watch—I said it was pawned, and told him where it was pawned—he said, who give me authority to pawn it?—I said, "Mrs. Harding "—he said, why not send him the ticket?—I said there was no occasion, as I had promised to get it out by the 1st of February—I asked him to take my monthly note is security, and he might send a young man with me to the Admiralty to get the money—he said he would not—I said, "Then I mast go home," and he gave me in charge.

CHARLES HARDING . In going down the highway, about a fortnight after the robbery, I met the prisoner, and told her I wanted her about the watch—she said, "Mrs. Harding lent it to me "—I said, "Then why should you leave the house?"—she said, "I understood the police were after me "—I said, "If it was lent to you, why do you fear the police?"—I know nothing of her breaking her arm.

Prisoner. What Mr. Harding has said is false—Mr. and Mrs. Harding were quarrelling, and she threw a quart pot at her husband's head—she was in liquor very much—she and I had been out drinking.

MRs. HARDING re-examined. I was not drunk—I did not throw the pot at my husband's head.

CHARLES HARDING re-examined. At the time I was serving some beet, there was a person taking some cans out—my wife disputed whether the pots should go with the cans, and she did strike me with a pot—my wife caught her gown on fire, which made her ill, after this happened, and prevented her coming here last Session.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-911
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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911. JOHN BROOKS was indicted for wilful and corrupt perjury.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-912
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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912. EDWARD GOVETT was indicted for wilful and corrupt perjury.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-913
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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913. WILLIAM CHILDS was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of March, 59lbs. weight of pork, value 9s. 9d., the goods of John Reed; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 60.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-914
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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914. GEORGE BEDFORD was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of March, 2 hats, value 9s., the goods of George Perring.

THOMAS ALDRIDGE . I am servant to Mr. George Perring, of No. 57, Cheapside. On the evening of the 5th of March I saw the prisoner at the shop—he took two hats, and ran away—they had been in the shop, near the door—I followed, and came' up with him 200 yards from the shop Bow churchyard—I took the hats from him, and gave him in charge of an officer—these are the hats—they are my master's.

ROBERT SHEPHERD . I am watchman of cordwainer's Ward. I took the prisoner, and produce the hats.

GUILTY .*— Confined One Year.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-915
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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915. WILLIAM TREW was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of March, 1 coat, value 20s., the goods of Edwin Daniel; and that he had been before convicted of felony.

EDWIN DANIEL . I am in the employ of Francis M'Grath, a grocer King-street, Hammersmith. Between twelve and one o'clock, on the 10th of March, I left my master's cart in Bread-street, and went to a tobacconist's—I left my coat in the cart—I was away ten minutes, and then mind my coat—I have since seen it—the officer had it when he took the prisoner with it.

JOHN RAWLINSON . I am a carman, and live at No. 26, Bread-street hill. I met the prisoner in Basing-lane—I saw him turn into Basing-lane with the coat on his arm—I ran, and stopped him in the churchyard—I brought him back, and gave him to the officer.

JAMES CUTHBERT . I am an officer. The coat was given to me, but I have been detained at the Mansion-house, and have not had time to get the coat—I have it at home.

EDWIN DANIEL re-examined. I saw the coat again, on the day the prisoner was taken, in the officer's hands—I am sure it is the one I had in the cart.

JOHN RAWLINSON re-examined. I gave the officer the same coat as I took from the prisoner.

ROBERT GADBURY . I am a patrol of Bread-street Ward. I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction, which I got from Mr. Clark's office—(read)—I was present at the former trial—I had apprehended him—he is the person mentioned.

GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined One Year.

OLD COURT.—Tuesday, April 3rd, 1838.

Second Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-916
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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916. STEPHEN DAVIS was indicted for feloniously forging and uttering a request for the delivery of 1 gallon of improved brandy in a basket bottle, with intent to defraud Henry Brett.

HENRY BRETT . I am in the employ of my father, Henry Brett, a wine and brandy merchant, at Holborn-bars. We have a customer named F. Edwards—he has dealt with us some time—the prisoner had been in his employ,

and came to us repeatedly for goods—on the 22nd of March he came and produced this request to me—I let him have a gallon of brandy, a basket, and a bottle, which we call a flask—(request read.)—"Please let the bearer have one gallon of improved brandy, a basket, and a bottle, for I. A. Edwards."

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Are you quite sure this was the order the prisoner presented to you? A. Certainly—there is a mark on it by which I know it.

FREDERICK EDWARDS . I am the son of John Absalom Edwards, and live in Cambridge-terrace, Edgware-road. The prisoner was about three months in his service, and left on the 10th of February—he was not with him in March—this request is not my father's writing.

Cross-examined. Q. When did he leave? A. On the 10th of February—the order is not my writing, nor my father's—I never saw the prisoner's writing, and cannot say whether he can write or not.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-917
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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917. THOMAS EDMUND WYATT was indicted for stealing, on Che 13th of March, 1 spoon, value 10s., the goods of Thomas Jefferson Holt; and that he had been before convicted of felony.

THOMAS JEFFERSON HOLT . I am a confectioner, and live in St. Paul's churchyard On the 13th of March the prisoner came to my shop—I did not bow him before—be called for a plate of ox-tail soup which was supplied to him by my servant—my attention was called to him—he was there about half an hour—I had lost spoons before, and when he left, I went up into the loop room and missed the spoon—I followed him—he ran to near Paternoster-row—I came up to him and said, "Young man give me my property"—he said, "It is in my coat pocket"—he drew it from his pocket, and put it into my hand—I said, "This is the second time I have been served this trick," and took him to the watch-house.

GEORGE JOHN RESTIEAUX . I am a policeman. I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction, which I got from Mr. Clark's office—(read)—I was a witness against him—he is the same man—he was imprisoned three months.

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Transported for Fourteen Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-918
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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918. JOHN M'LAREN was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of March, 1 coat, value 10s., the goods of Henry Gosden.

HENRY GOSDEN . I live with Mr. Hedges, a harness-maker and horse-dealer, in Burn-street, Paddington. About three weeks or a month ago my master brought the prisoner home to do a job—he was a stranger till then—master gave him supper that night, and be came and asked mistress for a light to go to bed, as he was to sleep there; but he went away, and I missed my coat—I never found him till I met him in Smithfield on the 27th of March—I knew him again—he had got my coat on his back—I said, "Halloo my fellow "—he said, "Stop, stop, I will give you the coat, don't make a row," and then he ran away—I ran after him, and called a policeman, and he was secured—this is my coat—(looking at it)—it had laid on my bed.

WILLIAM DEVONSHIRE . I am a policeman, I heard the prosecutor calling for the police, and I secured the prisoner with the coat on his back—he said he meant to give it back to the boy.

Prisoner's Defence. I was in the market, and his master asked if I wanted a job—he set me to clean some horses, and to take them home I asked him if he could tell me a regular job—his master agreed for me to stop there a week for my victuals, and I was to lie on the straw in the room in which this boy slept—I could not find any straw, and I put on his coat to go and find him, but I could not find him—when I came back the stable was fastened, and I did not like to disturb them—I should hart returned the coat, but I was looking for a situation.

GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-919
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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919. JOSEPH SMITH and GEORGE BAILEY were indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of March, 12lbs. weight of sugar, value 9s., the goods of John Hinton, and another.

ROBERT TYRRELL . I am a police-officer at the General Post-office. On the 3rd of March, about half-past nine o'clock in the evening, Mr. Hinton's chaise stood at the door of the King's Head, Newgate-street—the prisoner Bailey went and looked into it, and went away again—he returned in about a minute, took a parcel out, and gave it to the prisoner Smith, who had a bag which he put it into—I went over, seized Smith, put him into a shop, and left him in charge—I went over, secured Bailey, brought him into the shop, and handcuffed them and took them to the Computer—when I asked Smith what he had got there he said he did not know, a man had just given it to him to hold—when I brought them together I said to Smith, "Is this the man who gave you the sugar?"—he said, "No, I don't know that man."

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. This was in the evening? A. Yes; it was quite dark—I was standing opposite the chaise—I took Smith first, and Bailey about two minutes after—he walked away, and I lost sight of him—when I took him, he was coming from the opposite side to the chaise—what makes me certain of him was, seeing him go twice to the chaise—I did not know him before—the gas was lighted.

GEORGE BAXTER . I am servant to John Hinton, of the King's Had, Newgate-street. I had put this sugar into the chaise—I had bought it for my master, not a quarter of an hour before—I merely ran into the house to call somebody out, while it was taken.

Bailey's Defence. A man came along, and asked me to hold the panel, and he would give me a pint of beer.

(The prisoners received good characters.)


SMITH— GUILTY . Aged 41.

Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-920
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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920. EDWARD LONG was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of March, 1 cap, value 9d., the goods of Thomas Robert Hartley.

WILLIAM JOHNSON . I am a policeman. On the 21st of March I was in Barbican, and saw the prisoner take a cap from Mr. Hartley's shop door—I went and took him, and took it from him, about three doors from the house.

THOMAS ROBERT HARTLEY . I keep the shop. This cap is my Property.

GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined Six Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-921
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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921. WILLIAM SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of September, 1 watch, value 2l. 2s., the goods of Jonah West Barnet.

MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.

JONAH WEST BARNET . I am in the employ of Leaf and Co., warehousemen. I have seen a watch produced by the officer—it belongs to me—it is nine months since I had seen it safe—I kept it in a drawer in my bed-room, unlocked—I do not remember seeing it after that, till it was brought to me by young Mr. Smith, at Guildhall, about three months ago—I had had it ever since my father's death.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Young Mr. Smith is the prisoner's son? A. Yes—I am certain it is my watch—the drawer was unlocked—there are a great number of persons employed in the house.

ELIZABETH SANDOVER . I am in the employ of Leaf and Co. I know the prisoner—he was at work there at the latter end of September, repairing a room, close adjoining the room Barnet sleeps in—the door of the room was not locked—he was also employed in other parts of the house.

EDWARD EYRE . I am in the employ of John Leschalles, of Princes-street, Spitalfields. On the 27th of September the prisoner was employed at Leaf and Co.'s, in Wood-street, as a journeyman carpenter.

WILLIAM BARNET . I live at No. 7, Britannia-street, City-road. I was in company with the prisoner and his son last September, at the prisoner's house, in Hackney-road—I went there with the son to supper—I never saw the prisoner before that—after supper I asked what o'clock it was—the prisoner took out a watch, and showed me that it was twenty minutes after ten o'clock—I asked him if he was sure he was right—he said yes, it was a very good watch, he never had a better, and handed it over to me, and said, what did I think he gave for it—I opened it, looked at the face of it, and found my name in it—I said, "Who did you buy it of"—he said, "Of two men, at a public-house"—I saw my name, and the number of it, and said, "Good God! this is my watch; my father had it eighteen years ago."

Cross-examined. Q. Did not you say you would go and ask your mother about it, as she knew your watch? A. No, I did not—I did not make inquiry about it of anybody—I gave it back to the prisoner then—he told me before I opened it, that he gave 10s. for it, and it cost him three half-crowns to repair it—he did not say he was fearful he had made a bad bargain, finding the main-spring broken—he said it was very much out of repair—I was a perfect stranger to him—he did not show me the watch till I asked what o'clock it was—when I opened it, I said, "This is my watch"—he told me How he had got it before I claimed it—I did not go to my brother, he came to me—I told him what had occurred the night before.

Q. Was it not agreed, on your claiming it, that you should have it back provided he got the 17s. 6d. which it cost him? A. A message came to me next day, by his son, that I should have it by paying the 17s. 6d.—I said if he would bring the watch he should have the money, but it never was brought—I never saw him again—I did not communicate this to Leaf and Co. for two or three weeks—it is at their instance this prosecution is instituted—I never saw the prisoner's daughter at any house—I said it was a pity he had not given me the watch at once, and then he would not have got into trouble—I did not then suggest he had better get out of the way—I felt for the man, having a family—I do not know How long it was before

a warrant was issued for his apprehension—I saw him in custody last Thursday week—I saw the watch in December.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. You had no reason to suppose he had stolen the watch? A. Certainly not—I knew nothing about his having worked for Leaf.

JOHN CARTER . I am a watch-maker, and live in Hackney-road. This watch was left at my house to repair, the last week in September, or before the 3rd of October, in the name of Smith—I cannot speak to the person of the man who brought it.

JOHN ROE . I am an officer. About three or four months ago I was applied to about this watch—I made several applications to the prisoner's son, and endeavoured to find the prisoner, but was not able to do so for two or three months—I went to his house—I got a warrant for him at last—about five weeks ago I saw him one day go into his garden in Hackney-road—I did not know he was Mr. Smith, but I said to him, "How do you do, Mr. Smith?"—he said, "I am very well, thank you, How as you?"—I then said I had a warrant against him respecting the matter of the watch—he said, "You are mistaken, I am not the person you mean'—I then said I should not take him away from his family without their knowing where he was going, and asked him to explain the matter—he knocked at the door, and it was opened—he went along the passage and called at the kitchen stairs for a light, and when the light appeared I saw his body over the wall in the garden—I just saw his feet going over—there was a back door in the centre of the stairs, at which he must hare gone out—I endeavoured to follow him, but was prevented by his wife—I succeeded in taking him about three weeks afterwards—it was on a Saturday night that he ran away—I asked him who was with him at the time he purchased the watch, and he said his son.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-922
VerdictsGuilty > pleaded guilty

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922. SARAH LITCHFIELD was indicted for stealing, on the 4th of September, 1 pair of drawers, value 1s., the goods of Francis Russell: 5 shirts, value 1l.; 2 shoe-buckles, value 8s.; 1 pair of trowsers, value 3s.; 1 table-cloth, value 4s.; 1 bed-gown, value 3s.; 2 pillow-cases, value 2s.; and 2 handkerchiefs, value 4s.; the goods of John Russell, her master; also, for stealing, on the 19th of January, 1 sacramental cup, value 1l., the goods of John Russell, her master; to both of which indictments she pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 44.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-923
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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923. WILLIAM BAKER was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of March, 7 3/4 lbs. weight of tobacco, value 25s., the goods of Joseph Procter, his master.

JOSEPH PROCTER . I am a tobacconist, and live in Bishopsgate-street The prisoner was my servant, and slept in the house—I had suspicion, and on the morning of the 20th of March, my female servant gave me information—I saw the prisoner coming out of his bed-room, and I said to him, "Charles, I am told you have some tobacco here?"—he said he had none—I said, "I insist on your letting me see it; what have you in the bundle under your arm?" he said, "My dirty things"—I said, "Let me see them"—he opened the bundle on the bed, and said, "You see they are

dirty shirts"—I said, "What is in them?"—he said, "I hope you will forgive me"—I undid the shirts, and there was 7 3/4 lbs. of tobacco in them—he had been three weeks and one day in my employ. (The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Three Months.

Before Mr. Recorder.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-924
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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924. JAMES BROWN was indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of March, 14 rings, value 4l. 15s., the goods of James Smee.

MARY SMEE . I am the wife of James Smee, a jeweller, in the Minories. On the evening of the 23rd of March I was called into my husband's shop, by the shopman, and saw the prisoner—I showed him fourteen gold wedding-rings on a card—he tried on two or three, then snatched the card from my hand, and ran out of the shop—I ran after him, crying "Stop thief," and he was stopped by two watchmen, and the property was found on him.

NELSON RICKET . I am a watchman. I heard a cry of "Stop thief," and saw the prisoner running—I stopped him—Mrs. Smee came up, and said she had lost a card of wedding-rings—I asked the prisoner where they were, and said to another watchman, "Look for them "—the prisoner said, "There is no occasion to look for them, I have got them," and pulled out of his breast a card containing fourteen rings.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined One Year.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-925
VerdictsNot Guilty > unknown

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925. CHARLES PROBERT and HENRY GRIFFITHS were indicted for stealing, on the 19th of March, 1£100 Bank-note, the property of John Pollexben Pownall Wade Bastard; and THOMAS BALL for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing it to be stolen; and JOHN PAUL, as accessory after the fact.

JOHN POLLEXBEN POWNALL WADE BASTARD . I am a lieutenant in the Royal Horse Guards Blue. On Monday, the 19th of March, I gave George Carrington a cheque for£300, on Cox and Biddulph—this is the cheque—(looking at it)—I saw him go into the banking-house with the cheque—he came out, and gave me, the money directly—there were two£100 notes and seven£10 notes among it—30l. was deducted—I desired him to keep the 30l.—I took the two£100 notes, and seven£10 notes, home with me—I left one£100 note and the seven£10 notes at home—I put one£100 note into my waistcoat pocket, and went to Mr. Wright's, in Gough-street, Gray's Inn-lane—I was there about half an hour, and then went to Pall Mall, and when I got there I found the note was gone out of my pocket—I was at Wright's about half-past two o'clock, and at Pall Mall at ten minutes after three o'clock, when I missed the note—I looked at my watch after I missed it—the cheque was drawn by Mr. Sandford—I did not notice either of the prisoners any where that day.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. There was no attempt to rob you at all? A. No, it must have got out of my pocket—my impression is, that I dropped it while I was looking at a coach in the mail-coach factory—I have recovered the note—it went to the Bank to be changed.

COURT. Q. Where is it your impression that you dropped it? A. Why, at

Wright's mail-coach factory—I certainly had it in my pocket when I left the barracks, and I went direct there—I did not get out of my cab till I got there.

GEORGE CARRINGTON . I am a stable-keeper, and live in Albion-street, Hyde Park. On the 19th of March, Mr. Bastard gave me a cheque on Messrs. Cox and Biddulph, Charing-cross—I got it cashed there, and got two£100 Bank-of-England notes, and ten£10 notes—I gave Mr. Bastard the two£100 notes, and seven of the£10 notes, retaining, by his desire, the other three.

WILLIAM HARE . I am cashier to Cox and Co., Charing-cross. On the 19th of March I cashed this cheque—I gave two£100 notes, and ten£10 notes—one of the£100 notes was No. 645, dated 10th January, 1838, and the other was No. 2403 of the same date—it is not the custom to issue two notes of the same amount, with the same number and date.

JOHN KEMPSTER . I am a clerk in the Bank of England. On the 19th of March a man tendered to me a£100 note, No. 2403, dated 10th January, 1838—it was about a quarter before four o'clock—there was no name or address on the note at the time he presented it; but we always require the name and address, and I asked him for it—he took it away, and returned it me, after getting some one to put a name and address on it—it was, "Thomas Lack, Laystall-street, Gray's Inn-lane "—I asked him in what way he would have it cashed, and I paid him 100 sovereigns—it was a labouring man—I cannot say either of the prisoners was the man.

THOMAS BROWNING . I live in Munster-street, York-square, and an clerk to Mr. Wright, mail coach contracter, in Gough-street, Gray's Inn-lane. I saw the prosecutor there on the 19th of March—the prisoners were in Mr. Wright's employ—their business would probably bring then there at the time the prosecutor was there—they would be about the premises in the ordinary course of things—they were employed there that day—the prosecutor was in the factory yard—he went down to a part of the yard where there was a quantity of iron lying, to look at a coach which was standing there—after the prosecutor left the yard, the prisoner Ball came to me and asked permission to leave the factory for about ten minutes or a—I gave him permission, and he was gone nearly or quite an hour—I did not learn that the note had been lost till ten o'clock next morning—I then immediately went round the factory, and made known to all the men that a note had been lost, and offered a reward of 10l., on my own responsibility, to any man that would bring it to the counting-house, not knowing then that it had been paid in—I gave notice of it to the prisoners among the rest.

WILLIAM BALLARD . I am an officer of Bow-street. In consequence of information I received I went to the premises of Mr. Wright, on the 21st of March, accompanied by Mr. Kempster—I saw the prisoner Ball on the premises, with two or three other men, washing one of the coaches—we went there to look at one of the other men who was known to be absent at the time the note was lost—we afterwards went round the factory—I had occasion to leave, and returned late in the afternoon, and while in the counting-house the prisoner Ball came in—he said he understood there was 10l. reward offered for the£100 note, and hoped that he should have the 10l. and be pardoned if he told the truth—no promise or threat was made to him—I answered, "I can say nothing to that, did you pick the note up?"—he said no he did not, but he had been and got it changed—I

asked him where the money was—he said it was all safe—I asked where—he said it was at Westminster, and said that he had had 10l. himself for getting it changed, and he had about 8l. left, and could make up the other two—something was said as to who he had it from, and who had got the money there, and he then mentioned Probert's name—that Probert had picked up the note—I then sent for Probert, and asked him where the money was—he said it was at home, and he could get it—I did not tell him what Ball had said about his picking up the note—I asked him How much he had—he said, 50l., and that he had the whole of it at home—he then said he had picked up the note near where the iron laid in the factory yard, and had shown it to Griffiths, and Griffiths and he went to Ball with it—I then sent for Griffiths, and asked him where the money was—he said it was at home—I asked How much he had—he said 35l., that he had spent 3l. or 4l. of it, but he could get the other—Griffiths admitted that Probert had shown him the note, and said they went together to Ball, who went and got it changed—somebody standing by the counting-house observed to me that I had not got the whole—I asked who had got the rest, and some one answered that Paul had had 5l. of it—Paul was sent for and came—I asked him where the money was—he said 4l. of it was at home in a box, and he had spent 1l.—he gave me the keys of a box out of which I afterwards went and got 4l. 13s.—he was asked why he had received the 5l. or what he had received it for, and some one answered, "To hold his tongue"—I said, "What do you think we think you received it for"—he made some answer, and admitted, not certainly in direct words, that it was for that purpose—he was a washer at the same coach with Ball—I went down to Horgeferry-road with Probert, and in going we saw a young girl who he said was his sister—he asked her for the money, and directed her to go down stairs and get it, and in about jive minutes she brought up fifty sovereigns wrapped up as these now appear—(producing them)—I afterwards went with Griffiths to his house, to his mother's at least, and the mother gave me 30l.—next morning Ball took me to his residence No. 29, Hare-street, and told his wife to give me the money—she opened a box and gave me 8l.—next morning Griffiths's sister-in-law brought me up the other 5l., making up the 35l. he had got—there is about 2l. 13s. short altogether.

THOMAS BROWNING re-examined. Q. How soon after Mr. Bastard left did Ball apply to you? A. About ten minutes after three o'clock—Mr. Bastard left about a quarter to three o'clock.


NEW COURT.—Tuesday, April 3rd, 1838.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-926
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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926. JOHN ASHMAN was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of March, 3 brass knobs, value 2s., the goods of the church wardens of the Parish of Saint Sepulchre.—2nd COUNT, stating them to be the goods of the Parishioners of the said parish,—to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 53.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-927
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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927. WILLIAM SILVESTER was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of March, 1 handkerchief, value 2s. 6d., the goods of Charles Collambell, from his person.

CHARLES COLLAMBELL . I live at No. 4, Dover-place, New Kent-road, and am a surgeon. About nine o'clock at night, on Saturday, the 3rd of March, I was near St. Bride's church, in Fleet-street—I felt a sudden twitch at my pocket—I turned round, and saw three men behind me—I collared one—that was not the prisoner—I saw the prisoner turn up Bride-lane—I immediately pursued, stopped him, and charged him with having picked my pocket, and on searching him I found my handkerchief tucked inside his breast—this is it—(looking at it.)

Prisoner. Q. Where was the last place you had your handkerchief? A. By the corner of Bouverie-street—I had it when I came down Fleet-street—I did not say at the watch-house that I could only swear to the handkerchief by the pattern—there is no mark on it, but I feel perfectly satisfied that it is mine.

WILLIAM GROVE . I am an officer. I was called, and the prosecutor gave me the handkerchief.

Prisoner. Q. Did not the gentleman say he only knew it by the pattern? A. He said there were no letters on it—I did not hear him say any thing about the pattern—I asked him if there was any mark on it—he said, no, but he would swear to the handkerchief.

Prisoner's Defence. I saw this handkerchief lying down, and picked it up—I turned down Bride-lane—the gentleman came up to me, and said, "Have you got my handkerchief?"—I said, "Is it yours?"—I did not deny it—he said, "Come to the watch-house "—which I did.

GUILTY .—Aged 32. Confined Six Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-928
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown
SentenceTransportation; Imprisonment

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928. WILLIAM BLACKWOOD and MARY ANN PRICE were indicted for stealing, on the 19th of March, 1 handkerchief, value 2s., the goods of Thomas Hollingshead, from his person.

THOMAS HOLLINGSHEAD . I live at No. 3, Fenwick-court, Holborn On the 19th of March I was in Black Horse-court, Fleet-street—I observed an assault on a gentleman—I went down, and in going to the station-house with the gentleman, when within two steps of the station, I felt something at my pocket—I felt, and my handkerchief was gone—this is mine—I know it by the pattern—there is no mark on it—there were two or three officers near me, and I saw the handkerchief drop—I cannot say from whom—as soon as I turned round the two prisoners were at my back. and in custody, and the handkerchief fell at my feet—it was as near to their feet as mine.

Price. Was I not before you?—I went to see what was the matter—I went to the watch-house, and there was a handkerchief dropped from my shawl—I do not know who put it there—two officers came and laid hold of me—I was far before him—I was looking over the watch-house door. Witness. I saw no handkerchief near her shawl.

Blackwood. Q. Was I not a good way behind you? A. No, close.

CHARLES THORP . I am patrol of St. Bride's. I was on this evening in Black Horse-court—I saw the two prisoners behind the gentleman—I knew them both before—I stood on one side to make way for the charge, and saw Blackwood take the handkerchief from the gentleman, and he gave it to Price—she put it under her left arm, under her shawl—he immediately stooped down, and began to tie his shoe—I laid hold of his collar, and told the gentleman I knew where the handkerchief was—in putting them into the watch-house the handkerchief fell from Trice's shawl—I knew them before—they are acquainted

—I had seen them together for two hours before, walking up and down Fleet-street.

JOHN JONES . I am a watchman of St. Bride's. I was in the watch-house—I saw the handkerchief drop from the female prisoner.

Price's Defence. I know nothing of this boy.

Blackwood's Defence. There was the fight in a street—I was looking, and then I went to the watch-house to see the man; as I was going the gentleman caught hold of me, and put me into the watch-house.

BLACKWOOD— GUILTY . Aged 16.— Transported for Ten years.

PRICE— GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined One Year.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-929
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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929. JOHN CASHMAN was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of March, 1 bed-tick, value 6d.; 4 handkerchiefs, value 1s. 6d.; 3 pairs of stockings, value 1s. 6d.; 1 cloak, value 1s.; 1 pewter pot, value 3d.; 1 tea-pot, value 1s.; 1 pair of shoes, value 3d.; and 1/2 lb. weight of horse-chair, value 6d.; the goods of Jemima Wilson.

GEORGE BAKER . I am a watchman of St. Dunstan's. About half-past three o'clock, on the morning of the 4th of March, I was going down Neville's-court, and found the door of No. 4, open—I went in, and went round the corner, up to the water-closet, and found the prisoner coming out—I asked what he did there—he said he went to ease himself—I said that would not do for me—he turned round and ran away, I sprung my rattle, and caught him on New-street-hill—I brought him back, and found in his coat pocket three pairs of stockings, and a comforter.

THOMAS QUINNELL . I am a watchman of St. Dunstan's. I went to Baker's assistance, and we found the prisoner coming out of the privy—he said he had been to ease himself—he then ran off—Baker followed and brought him back—I went into the privy, and Found a red cloak, a pint pot, and a bed-tick.

FRANCIS REXTER . I am an officer. The prisoner was brought to the watch-house—I found in his hat a silk handkerchief, and two cotton ones—in his pocket a phosphorus box, some trinkets, and a key which opened the door of the house.

JEMIMA WILSON . I am a widow, and live in this house. I was in bed that night—this property all belongs to me—I had left them all in the kitchen, down stairs, except the cloak, which was at the one-pair of stairs door.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. How was your door? A. It was shut safe, but only on the latch—this is a common latch-key—I have two lodgers—they were in bed—I was the last up—there were more valuable things in the house.

(J. Nightingale, a fishmonger, Bridge water-gardens, and W. Harrow, a fancy trimming maker, Bridgewater-gardens, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 33.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-930
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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930. WILLIAM MARSDEN and CATHERINE CONNOR were indicted for stealing, on the 10th of March, 1 handkerchief, value 2s., the goods of John Evans, from his person.

JOHN EVANS . About three o'clock on Saturday, the 10th of March, I was passing through Lombard-street—a gentleman tapped me on the

shoulder, and said something that induced me to put my hand into my pocket, and my handkerchief was gone—I cannot say How long before had seen it, probably a few minutes—the gentleman had hold of the male prisoner with one hand, and the handkerchief in the other—it was mine—it was marked with my initials—I had not seen either of the prisoners near me—they were behind me.

PHILIP PARISH . I am a City police-constable. I was in Clement's lane, and saw the two prisoners walking together—they walked to Lombard-street, and then to Gracechurch-street, and turned back to Lombard street—they met the prosecutor and another gentleman, walking—they then turned, and Marsden took this handkerchief from the prosecutor's pocket—a gentleman seized him with the handkerchief—Connor walkd off—I desired the gentleman to follow her, and take her, which he did—she was with Marsden, and by his side, when he did it.

MARSDEN— GUILTY . Aged 15.— Transported for Ten Years.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-931
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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931. GEORGE WILLIAMS was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of March, 1 pair of trowsers, value 3s. 6d.; and 1 waistcoat, value 4s.; the goods of Thomas Martin.

JOHN CHRISTIAN FRY . I am in the employ of Thomas Martin, a pawn-broker, on Snow-hill. About nine o'clock in the morning of the 31st 3rd March, I was at the window—there was a pair of trowsers and a waist coat inside the door—I saw them taken down—I did not see who took them, but I saw the prisoner walk past the window with them—I pursued him—he turned down a court and dropped them—I believe it was the prisoner, but his back was towards me—I pursued him, and cried "Stop thief"—he was stopped by a man at the top of the court—he came back and was given into custody—he did not deny the robbery—there was no other person that could have dropped them that I saw.

Prisoner. There were plenty of people about. Witness. I believe him to be the man that dropped them—I did not see him take them down—I did not see him near the shop before they were missing—I asked him what he did it for, and he said, "For distress "—the things were cut down.

HENRY KIPLING . I am a porter at the George. I heard a cry of "Stop thief," and saw the prisoner running up the court—I stopped him—I did not see him drop any thing, but he took a knife and threw it in at my door—it was a shoemaker's knife.

JOHN SCOTT (City police-constable). I took the prisoner, and have the property.

Prisoner's Defence. At nine o'clock in the morning in the City there are plenty of people passing, and this person tried to find some one else that saw me do it, but they could not—I was going up the turning, and I suppose it was because I had a ragged coat on—I can give no other reason for it.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-932
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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932. JOHN HARRIS and WILLIAM ATKINS were indicted for stealing, on the 6th of March, 1 purse, value 6d.; 4 sovereigns, 1 half-crown, 6 shillings, and 3 sixpences; the goods and monies of Harriet perry, from her person.

HARRIET PERRY . I live at No. 7, Westminster-bridge-road, and am single. About two o'clock in the day, on the 6th of March, I was in water-lane, Blackfriars—there was a pressure on my left shoulder, and then on my right—I put my hand to my pocket, and my purse was gone, with our sovereigns and 10s.—I saw Harris, and I suppose he was one of those pressing—only two appeared to be pressing—Harris was one—the purse was on my right hand—he was on the right also—he was running way, and my purse was gone—he put his hand into my pocket I suppose—me one put his hand in—I am quite sure Harris was on the right—I do not know who was on the left.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. There was no crowd of people? A. No, nobody but two persons—I felt my purse taken from my pocket—told the Magistrate so—I do not know How many people have been taken up on this charge—I swore to Harris, because he had the same sort of clothes on that the boy had who was passing me—there were two other boys taken—they had not the same clothes on—I cannot say How they same to take them—I saw the other boys the next day at Guildhall, before the Magistrate—there were four brought up—I spoke to Harris—I said at the station-house that he was the same—I had never seen Harris before—hen I went to complain that I had lost my purse, I did not say that I had seen two boys dressed like Harris and Atkins, and they were near me—I only saw one, that was Harris—I was pressed on both sides at the same time—I have never found my purse nor money.

COURT. Q. You said you only saw two persons, and Harris was one; now you say only one? A. I was pressed by two persons, but I did not see two—the only person that I saw was Harris—I was frightened—I know him from his face and general appearance.

EDWARD NIMMO . I am a butcher, and live at No. 6, Union-street. I was standing by my counting-house, and looked out of the shop—I saw Harris walk deliberately up to this lady, and put his hand into her pocket behind, or cut it, and take out a brown purse, and swing it round—I ran out, and said,"Madam, you are robbed"—I ran, and took Harris in Bride-lane—Atkins was there—I cannot say what situation he was in—they tripped me up, and I fell with Atkins—there were several of them about.

Cross-examined. Q. You were the first person who gave information to this lady? A. Yes—I do not know whether I knocked Atkins down—I threw Harris down—I do not know that I knocked him down—there were not many persons about the lady except these—there were a great many people in my shop—there were other people at the back of my shop—I suppose he handed the purse away—the same persons were brought up at Guildhall—I did not cause them to be taken—a man named Crawley took them—I did not tell him to take any other one—I was very much confused.

(Jacob Moses, No. 6, King-street, Commercial-road, dealer in Jewellery and watches, gave the prisoner Harris a good character.)

HARRIS*— GUILTY . Aged 18.


Transported for Ten Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-933
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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933. ROBERT WALKER was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of March, 29lbs. weight of cheese, value 1l. 5s., the goods of William Gootch.

WILLIAM GOOTCII . I live in Great Bath-street, Clerkenwell, and keep a cheesemonger's shop. This is my cheese.

JAMES. WEST . I am shopman to the prosecutor. About half-past six o'clock in the evening of the 6th of March I missed a cheese from outside the shop—I heard it was lost—I went to Cold-bath-square, and overtook the prisoner, with this cheese on him—this is the one I lost—(looking at it.)

JAMES SUMMERSELL . I was minding the shop, and saw the prisoner come past, with the cheese under his arm—I gave information, and pursued him—he had got it.

Prisoner's Defence. A man asked me to carry this to the coach-rank, and said he would give me 6d.—I did not take it from the shop.

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-934
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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934. JOHN CONNOR was indicted for stealing, on the 2nd of March, 1Ib. weight of tobacco, value 6s., the goods of David Barlin and another, his masters.

DAVID BARLIN . I am in partnership with another person as tobacconist. The prisoner was a servant in our employ—on the 2nd of March Sherwood called me down, and said, in the prisoner's hearing, that he had been robbing me—I said, "Send for a policeman"—Sherwood produced the tobacco which he had taken from the prisoner's stocking—the prisoner said "I hope you will forgive me"—I gave him into custody.

JAMES SHERWOOD . I am in the employ of the prosecutor. I received information, and called the prisoner into the drying-room—I said had received very disagreeable information, that he had got some tobacco about him, would he produce it, or should I send for a policeman—he than, after some time, pulled up the legs of his trowsers, and produced this tobacco.

JOHN DONELLY . I saw the prisoner take this tobacco out of a bag on the ground—(looking at it.)

(The prisoner put in a petition for a lenient sentence.)

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Six Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-935
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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935. ANN PATTERSON was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of March, 1 spoon, value 10s., the goods of the Right Honourable Anne Countess Waldegrave, her mistress.

WILLIAM BENHAM TOMKINSON . I am a pawnbroker, in Upper George street. On the evening of the 1st of March the prisoner brought a spoon, and asked me to take it in to redeem some other property—I asked whose it was—she said her own—she then said the housekeeper gave it her be cause she could not pay her wages, and then she said she had taken it—I gave her into custody—at the station-house she said she worked at Lady Waldegrave's, and she had taken this from the kitchen, and wished to return it.

BENJAMIN NELSON and JOHN HUNT being called on their recognizance, did not answer.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-936
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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936. ELIZA M'INTYRE was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of March, 1 watch, value 12l.; and 1 guard-chain, value 6l.; the goods of John Crowe, from his person.

JOHN CBOWE . I am a builder, and live in Manchester-street, Grosvenor-square. About three or four o'clock, on the morning of the 3rd of March, I was coming home—I had been out with a party of friends, and in Oxford-street I was met by the prisoner, who asked me to accompany her to a house; and when we had been there ten minutes she suddenly left the room, which excited my suspicion, and I called to the people down stairs to stop her, which they did—I ran down, and accused her of stealing my watch—she said she had not got it—I asked her three times, and said I would not press the charge against her if she gave it me—she still denied it—the policeman was called in, and while he was searching her the watch and chain fell down, and was found at her feet—this is it—(looking at it.)

Prisoner. There were several other people in the passage, and there I had been two other women in the room as well as myself. Witness. There was no one but her in the room—no one could have dropped the watch but her, and two other young women said she had better give the watch to the gentleman.

Prisoner. He was very tipsy—there were six in the passage—the door was never locked—he gave 1s. for the room, and he had no money to give me, that was the reason I left the room. Witness. I had 5l. or 6l. in my pocket—I would have given her some, but she ran away—the watch was in my waistcoat pocket—I had not undressed myself.

JAMES WARD (police-constable C 172.) I was called in—the prosecutor, the prisoner, the woman of the house, and the servant, were all in the passage—the prosecutor charged the prisoner with-stealing the watch—she denied it—in searching her, the watch dropped from some part of her person—the prosecutor had been drinking.

GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined One Year.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-937
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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937. ELIZA WILLIAMS and MARY WILLIAMS were indicted for stealing, on the 2nd of March, 2 shawls, value 8s., the goods of Michael Mendoza.

ANN MENDOZA . I live at No. 7, Rosemary-lane, and am the wife of Michael Mendoza. On the 2nd of March the two prisoners came to my house for two bonnets which they had left a deposit on—they had dealt there some time—I put ten shawls on the counter, and when they turned out of the shop there were but eight—I sent my girl after them, and they were brought back, but I have not seen the shawls since—I am sure I had ten shawls—we placed ten on purpose, as we suspected them—I placed a girl to watch them.

Eliza Williams. If we had been bad characters why did she send the shopwoman to ask us what we wanted—she brought the bonnets down stairs, and gave one to each of us, and tied them in a handkerchief and then untied them again—on the Wednesday we went with my mother, and my mother bought a gown, and the shopwoman at the next door came in to have some things, and took three gowns out. Witness. No, she did not.

BRIDGET DELOREY . I live with the prosecutor. I remember the prisoners coming in—I was watching them—I went inside the parlour

door, and saw the two shawls hanging by the side of the counter the prisoners were buying a baby's frock, and they were bargaining there—Eliza Williams took the two shawls and slipped them under her shawl, and Mary was talking to my mistress, and buying a frock at the time—I told my mistress, "They have taken two shawls"—I am quite sure I say Eliza take the shawls, and then she went to my mistress and took the two bonnets—they then went out—my mistress told me not to tell her till her got to the door.

MARY LEE . I am an apprentice of the prosecutrix's. She called me down, and placed me behind the gowns on the chair—she showed one of the prisoners a frock, and while she was doing that Eliza took two shawls—they went out of the shop after they had looked at a boa—I did not give information before they went out, as they ran away as fast as they could—we ran after them—I saw her give the shawls to a man, and the man ran away, that I swear—I saw them both go out of the same door—the shawls were lying on the counter, close by the parlour door, with the other shawls—there is one shop door and one parlour door—I saw Eliza take the shawls while mistress was showing Mary a gown—they were close by the street door—Eliza was up by the parlour door—there were no people of the house there—Eliza went out first with the shawls—Mary was going after her—I was behind the gowns—I cried out the moment they went out, and when they went out they ran away—there is only one street door—they ran to the Rosemary Branch—there was a man there—I hallooed out, but he ran away as fast as he could—Martha Jacobs, the shop girl, was with me—they came back with us when we cried "Stop thief!"

BRIDGET DELOREY re-examined. They walked out one at one door, the other at the other.

Mary Williams. There were two more women in the shop, that we left there—we came out of one door, and there was a door on the left—this girl was tutored at the office by the prosecutrix—there was no cry of "Stop thief"—when this girl had the book put to her she said, if she swore false she would not go to God.

MART LEE re-examined. I have told the truth, and the whole truth—I told the same to the Magistrate—I told him that I lost sight of them for a minute—when I ran through the Rosemary Branch I saw them again.

MARTHA JACOBS . I am the shopwoman to the prosecutor. I was present when Mrs. Mendoza put down the shawls—she put down ten—the prisoners came in to redeem two bonnets, on which they had left 2s.—I was called to go and fetch them—I could not find them then—they were looking at several other things—Eliza Williams took up two shawls—one was a blue shawl—they were by the parlour door, on the counter—they were not alone—there were ten separated in different parts of the place, three or four in one part, and three or four in another—they were all separated—there might have been four with these, I cannot say—I was told to watch at the door when they came in—a lady came in, and asked for a morning dress—I took the lady into the parlour, and my mistress called out they were gone—I hastened after them, and found them in Little Prescott-street—they were standing, and I asked what the man was doing, and they said, "He pushed up against us, and spoiled the two bonnets"—he was a short man, in a blue coat—he walked off, and they made very cross remarks, and said, "We have nothing on us"—they had dealt at the shop fifteen months.

MORRIS ASHER . About four o'clock in the afternoon in question I

was coming through Little Prescott-street, and saw the two prisoners give something to a man—the witness came up, I turned round, and the man was gone—I heard one of them say, "Come back, we have nothing on us."

Eliza Williams. There was no man near us. Witness. Yes, there was—you gave something to a man—what it was I cannot say.

CORNELIUS O'DONOGHUE (police-constable H 180.) I took found nothing on them.


Eliza Williams. We never saw the shawls at all.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-938
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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938. WILLIAM READ was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of March, 1 handkerchief, value 2s. 6d., the goods of Cornelius Carter, from his person.

CORNELIUS CARTER . I am a chemist. About half-past ten o'clock on Saturday morning, I was looking into a shop window in Gracechurch-street, and saw, by reflection in the window, my handkerchief in the prisoner's hand—I turned, and he ran off—I followed him—he went up a court and dropped my handkerchief—I took it up, but still followed, and took him.

Prisoner. I picked it up at his feet. Witness. It could not have fallen—it was in the inside pocket of a dress-coat—when I took the prisoner, he begged of me to forgive him.

GUILTY .* Aged 23.— Transported for Ten Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-939
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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939. WILLIAM ANDERSON was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of March, lib. 12oz. weight of brass, value 1s.; 1 hammer head, value 1s.; and 1 saw, value 6d.; the goods of David Magson, his master.

DAVID MAOSON . I live at No. 60, Leather-lane, and am an engineer. I employed the prisoner as a carpenter, to remove my goods from fleet-street to Leather-lane on the 8th of March—he was going out—in consequence of some suspicion, I asked him to go and drink with me, and when he went from the public-house, I thought he looked very bulky and I followed him—I gave him into custody—the property was found in the privy—he gave me the hammer head in the street—I saw the brass in the shop that day—it was safe about breakfast time—it was found about one o'clock at the Robin Hood, in Leather-lane—the next door to where I have a factory—there was no occasion for him to take it—these things are mine—(looking at them.)

JONATHAN DAVID MAGSON . My father sent; me for a policeman—I went into the privy, and found these things—the prisoner appeared sober—I had seen the saw in the shop that morning.

Prisoner. These things were brought and left in the street all night and there were other men working.

DAVID MAOOON re-examined. I had a great deal of property in the yard, and some van loads were left outside, but I know this piece of brass was seen in the shop that morning.

Prisoner. His things were brought from his other place, and were left in the mews all night—he was so drunk that the Magistrate would not hear him. Witness. I was an hour with him, and had a glass with him, because I was in hopes he would disgorge what he had.

Prisoner's Defence. I was searched and nothing was on me, and my house was searched and nothing was found—there were half-a-dozen working in the place as well as me.


OLD COURT.—Wednesday, April 4th, 1838.

Third Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-940
VerdictsGuilty > pleaded guilty

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940. ATTILIUS SALVADOR was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of February, 12 forks, value 10l., the goods of Edwin Pearson, Knt, in the dwelling-house of William Biggs; the prisoner was also indicted for embezzlement; to both of which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-941
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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941. GEORGE TAYLOR was indicted for bigamy.

MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

JAMES YULE . I knew Rose Hammerton—I only saw her once previous to her marriage—she married the prisoner—I was a witness to the marriage—it was on the 30th of August, 1834, at Trinity church, Marylebone.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Did you see them together after they were married? A. Never—I did not know of their separating.

JOHN WOOD . I am a shoemaker, and live in Regent-street. I know Rose Hammerton—I saw her this morning—she is in Court now.

ELIZABETH MARY GRINSLADE . I live in Kepple-street, Borough. I was married to the prisoner on the 6th of February, this year, at St. Andrew's, Holborn—I was aware that he had been married before—I knew that his wife was alive—I was a servant, and had no property—I first be came acquainted with him in August, 1836, but after that he went to France for some months—I preferred this charge against him before the Magistrate—I did not tell the Magistrate that I knew him to be married—the Magistrate did not ask me.

JOHN GEARING (police-constable G 130.) I took the prisoner into custody, in the parish of St. James, Clerkenwell.

GUILTY . Aged 30.— Confined Six Months.

Before Lord Chief Baron Abinger,

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-942
VerdictsNot Guilty > unknown

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942. MARIA ANDREWS was indicted for feloniously uttering a false, forged, and counterfeit order for payment of 350l., with intent to defraud William George Prescott, and others, well knowing the same to be forged, and WILLIAM PHILLIPS was indicted as an accessary before the fact.

MESSRS. BODKIN and DOANE conducted the Prosecution.

FRANCIS BORTON . I am clerk and cashier in the banking-house of William George Prescott, Grote, and Co.; there are more than one other partner. On the 21st of February, 1837, this cheque was produced to me, about eleven o'clock in the morning—I believe it was the female prisoner who presented it—I speak from a recollection of her person—Mr. Pearson saw her—I believed it not to be the writing of the drawer—I believed it not to be a genuine cheque—I showed it to the adjoining cashier, and then referred to our signature book, but, that being rather new, it had not the signature in it—I then referred to the pass book of the society, but that is not here—I then took it to a senior clerk, and showed it to him, and then showed it to Mr. Prescott, and, after some hesitation, he gave me instructions to pay it—I paid it in notes, 350l., to the person who brought it—previous to paying her, Mr. Prescott asked her if her name was Hall—she said no, she received it for Mrs. Hall—he questioned her as to the nature of the cheque, and then requested her to write her name and address on the back of it, which is here now—I suppose she was a quarter of an hour, or longer, in

the banking-house—at that time there was an account open for Charles Lane Treasurer to the West New Jersey Society, by whom the cheque purports' to be signed—I saw the female prisoner again in October, in Trafalgar-street, and recognised her at once—I believed her to be the person.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. You had seen nothing of her from February to October? A. No—I do not positively say she is the woman.

THOMAS PEARSON . I am clerk to Prescott and Co. I was in attendance at the counter on the 21st of February, last year—I remember this cheque being presented for payment to Mr. Borton—my attention was called the person who paid it—I believe the female prisoner to be the person—the was some hesitation about paying it, which induced me to pay more an ordinary attention to the person—she was a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes under my view—when she left the banking-house after it was paid—I followed her into the street, my attention was attracted by her being very much like a relation of mine—I saw her again in October, and was confirmed in my opinion that she was the same person—I think is the same person—I will not swear to her positively, but I believe her to be the person—I saw her writing, but I was not very near her.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you see a great many people who present cheques in a day? A. Yes—my attention was not called to the person for eight months.

CHARLES LANE . I am treasurer to the West New Jersey Society, and have been so some years. I did not write any cheque for£350 on Prescott on the 20th of February—I had an account there—this cheque is not my handwriting—when it was presented to my notice I came from Oxfordshire, where I live—I found there was no such, person as Mr. Hall, in Mount-street, Grosvenor-square, which is endorsed on the cheque—I can have no hesitation in saying I did not draw this cheque—I draw but seven in the course of the year.

WILLIAM WHITESIDE . I am a solicitor, and live in Lincoln's Inn-fields. I succeeded Mr. Lane in business—the business of the New Jersey Society was still continued in the office—the male prisoner was my clerk in February, 1837—the cheque-book used for the Society was kept in an iron chest, in my room—the prisoner would have access to that room—there are very few cheques drawn on account of the Society—I have not missed any blank cheques from the Society's cheque-book—I keep a partnership account at Prescott's, and have missed from my cheque-book several cheques, which have been cut from the end of the book—that book was usually locked up, but during the day was frequently in the drawer of the table at which I sat, which drawer was open all day—the prisoner had the opportunity of getting at the book, if he chose—he could have access to both cheque-books, as the iron chest was also open—I have compared the cheque in question with the remaining part of a cheque cut from the end of this partnership-book, and it exactly corresponds with the lines through which it is cut—I entertain no doubt of its having been taken from that book—the prisoner was absent from the office the whole of the 20th of February, and part of the 21st, without my permission—I saw him in the office in the middle of the day on the 21st, not before one o'clock, and he was in liquor—he was discharged from my office in consequence of his absence, and left me on the following Saturday—I was not aware where he lived at the time.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. How many clerks had you? A. Three writing clerks and one managing clerk, but he is a solicitor himself

—there were three besides the prisoner—one of them has since left—the managing clerk and one of the others is still with me, and the other was at my office a few days ago.

WILLIAM HAYDON . I am a haberdasher, and live in Newington-cause-way. I am owner of the house No. 99, Trafalgar-street, Walworth—the male prisoner came to me about the 8th or 9th of March, 1837, to take the house—he said his name was William Andrews—I did not see the female prisoner that day—I saw her about a fortnight afterwards in the house No. 99, living there with the male prisoner—I was in the habit it calling there weekly for the rent—I did not see the male prisoner when I called, but saw her—she mostly paid the rent—I never saw the male prisoner there, that I know of—the male prisoner did not say who the female prisoner was—I never saw him in her presence.

COURT. Q. When he took the house did he say what his family consisted of? A. He said his family was small—the rent was paid weekly up to January this year—the male prisoner has sometimes called at my house and paid it when I have not received it on the Monday, but I there saw him at the house.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-943
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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943. WILLIAM PHILLIPS was again indicted for feloniously forgoing an order for the payment of 310l., with intent to defraud James Whatmas Bosanquet and others; seven other counts varying the charge.

MESSRS. BODKIN and DOANE conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN FRYER . I am clerk in the banking-house of James Whatman Bosanquet, and Co.—there are three partners. On the 17th of January this cheque for 310l., drawn by Kerslake and Co., was presented to me it payment—I do not know who presented it—the person first paid in a cheque for 284l. 10s., on Dixon and Brook, to the credit of Kerslake and Co., and then presented this cheque, drawn by Kerslake and Co., for payment—I recollect the transaction, and am sure it was the same personal—he never moved from the counter—I paid him the amount, 310l—there were but two persons at the counter at the time.

WILLIAM BELTON CREALOCK . I am a solicitor, in partnership with Mr. Karslake, and carry on business in Regent-street. The prisoner was in our employ as clerk from the 1st of January, 1832, down to the 15th of August, 1835—at that time we kept a cash account at Bosanquet's—I was in the habit of drawing cheques on account of office business, and sending them by clerks, and I was also in the habit of paying in drafts which I received on other banks—we generally paid in and presented drafts at the same time, if we had occasion, as we lived at some distance from the bankers—the prisoner would have the opportunity of knowing that practice—in July, 1835, I received a letter from Griffiths Jones, of Welsh Pool—I had before that spoken to the prisoner about his irregular attendance, and he said if he did not give satisfaction he had better go, and I said he had—I afterwards received this letter from Welsh Pool, to which I wrote an answer, and gave it to the prisoner to take a copy of by the machine—after making the copy he brought it to me himself—he had no authority from me to make a second copy—he never told me that he had done so—(looking at two sheets of paper)—these appear to be copies of the two first sheets of the same letter—they were no doubt made the machine—the signature I use in drawing drafts on bankers correspond generally

with the signature I use in signing letters—(looking at the cheque)—this certainly not my writing, nor my partner's—it is a very bad imitation—I did not authorise that cheque to be drawn—the signature to this copy of the letter is my hand-writing—the signature to the cheque is certainly like the signature to the copy of the letter, particularly in the K—Kerslake—it is seldom I make such a K, and the cheque and letter correspound in that particular—I never authorised this cheque on Dixon and Brooks to be paid into Bosanquet's on my account—I believe the words "One hundred and eighty" and the signature James Smith in that cheque to be the prisoner's hand-writing—they bear the strongest mark of his handwriting; but I should say all the cheque is his hand-writing decidedly—he was three years and a half in our office, and I saw him write almost very day—I believe the whole cheque to be his writing, but this portion more strongly than the rest—the figures of the year 1838 on this 310l. cheque I should say are his figures—it is an imitation of my own handwriting throughout—the character is not like the characters, of the prisoner's ting.

HENRY KARSLAKE . I am a partner of Mr. Crealock's. This cheque is not my hand-writing—I never authorised any body to draw it.

RICHARD MULLINS . I am clerk to Kerlake and Co., and have been so rather more than five years—the prisoner was there when I first went—I have seen him write many times—I believe the whole of this cheque on Dixon and Co. to be his hand-writing, except the words "not known," written in the corner—the figures 38, in the cheque in question are like the prisoner's ordinary writing, and the 16 in the January—the rest is an imitation of Mr. Crealock's writing—I believe the figures I have named are the prisoner's hand-writing.

COURT. Q. Do your employers keep a cheque—book? A. Yes—it is printed cheque.

MATTHEW BAKER . I am clerk to Karslake and Co., and was so when the prisoner was in their employ—I have frequently seen him write—part of this cheque on Dixon strongly bears the characters of the hand-writing of the prisoner, and I believe, from the character, it is his hand-writing—(looking at the cheque)—the 38 in the date of the year, and the 16 in the month, very strongly resemble his ordinary handwriting—I believe it to be his hand-writing.

Cross—examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Were you examined before the magistrate? A. No—I believe the whole of the second cheque to be the prisoner's—that is my belief of both cheques.

MR. BODKIN. Q. What is your belief of the 310l. one? A. That it is the hand-writing of the prisoner—I can see the character of his hand-writing through the whole of it—it is not his ordinary hand, but casting my eye through it, from beginning to end, there is something in the character and style of it, leading me to believe it is his.

COURT. Q. Does it appear a disguised hand, but written by a character which is familiar to you? A. Yes.

MR. CREALOCK re-examined. My cheque-book is usually kept in my drawer, and my partner kept a cheque-book in his room, which was not lacked up—the prisoner would not have had the least difficulty in possessing himself of blank cheques, if so disposed.

JOSIAH WATHEN . I am a solicitor, and live in Bedford-row. In the latter part of 1836, the prisoner applied for a situation in my office—he

showed me a letter written from Messrs. Karslake and Crealock, which I believe to be this—I have a strong recollection that there was a third sheet to it—I do not recollect whether there was a signature, but I apprehend there was, or I should not have taken notice of it—I read the letter.

JOHN ROE . I am a City officer. I was with Forrester when he apprehended the prisoner in Trafalgar-street, Walworth-road, on the 2nd of February—Forrester had got up to him before me—I got the papers produced at No. 1, Clifton-street, Wands worth-road—nothing that the prisoner said took me there.

DANIEL FORRESTER . I am an officer. I accompanied Roe to Walworth—I saw the prisoner some distance down Trafalgar-street—I followed him, and stopped him when he turned two or three streets—I said, "Your name is Phillips, I believe"—he said, "No, it is not"—I said, "I think it is; if you will step back, here is a person I think will say so"—he denied it—I said, "What is your name?"—he did not give me his name at the time—I said, "The fact is, I believe your name is Phillips, and I shall arrest you"—on that he said, "You will be careful," and then said his name was Thompson—I told him it was for something that happened at Mr. Whiteside's—he then acknowledged his name was Phillips, and said the reason he had denied it was, that he was in difficulties—I went to No. 99, Trafalgar-street, and found some bills and things there—I afterwards went to No. 1, Clifton-street, Lark-hall-lane—the prisoner was not with me—; I followed a person there—I found an elderly lady there—I searched the place, and found various papers—(looking at the two papers)—I recollect seeing them there, or papers like them—we brought all the papers away, and they were among them.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you examined before the Magistrate? A. Yes—I have not signed any deposition.

JOHN SANKEY . I am owner of the houses Nos. 1, 2, and 3, Cliftone-street—the prisoner took the house, No. 1, on the 21st of May, 1836, and continued to occupy it till the 29th of January, 1838—he took the whole house.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you before the Magistrate? A. No—the prisoner paid his rent punctually at first, but I have had occasion to show him lenity about it.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Did he at any time pay your arrears? A. Yes; on the 29th of January he paid me the arrears—he owed, 6l. 4s.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Are you aware of his mother receiving a quarterly allowance? A. Yes—he generally paid me at the time of her allowance becoming due.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Was that the case in January? A. I believe she received it on the 10th.

(Mr. Waite, a barrister's clerk; Henry Worth, a solicitor's clerk; and Algernon Sidney Spark, a short-hand writer, deposed to the prisoner's good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 39.— Transported for Life.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-944
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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944. THOMAS JONES was indicted for a robbery on Elizabeth Rutt on the 5th of March, assaulting her, and taking from her person, and against her will, 1 reticule, value 2s.; 1 handkerchief, value 3s.; 1 half-crown, 2 shillings, 1 sixpence, and 3 pence; her goods and monies; and feloniously striking and beating her immediately before, and after the robbery aforesaid.

ELIZABETH RUTT . On the 5th of March, at eleven o'clock in the forenoon, I walked from Clapton to Hackney, and was going up London-lane—there was nobody in the lane—I was forcibly stopped by somebody coming from behind a wall—he placed his hands on my shoulders, terrified me very much, and took my bag—I resisted for a few moments, but he eventually got it from me—he then stumbled and fell, which prevented his going off so briskly—a man came up, and secured him—the prisoner is the man, I am certain—my bag contained about 4s., 6d. in silver, a handkerchief, and some cards—he denied having the bag, but it was found on him—he hurt my hand with my resisting him—the string was round my two fingers, and he got it from me.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Are you married? A. No.

JAMES SMITH . I was going up London-lane, and saw the lady—I saw the prisoner come from behind a brick wall—he caught her by the shoulders and took her reticule out of her hand—I stopped him and took him to the station—it was at eleven o'clock in the morning.

(John Saunders, of Crabtree-row; William Faber, of Bethnal-green; James Goodchild, Mount-street, Bethnal-green; Henry Carfield, Friar's Mount; and Charles Jackson, deposed to the prisoner's good character.)

GUILTY of robbery, but not with violence. Aged 20.

Transported for Ten Years.

Before Lord Chief Baron Abinger.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-945
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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945. THOMAS JONES was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Hamper, on the 3rd of March, and stealing therein 11 scarfs, value 1l. 8s., his goods.

WILLIAM HAMPER , Jun. On the night of the 3rd of March, about half-past eight o'clock, I was in my father's shop and heard the glass break—I ran out and found a pane of glass broken—I saw the prisoner running—I followed, and he was stopped by the policeman, with eleven of my father's scarfs in his possession—my father's name is William.

Prisoner. Q. How far was I from the shop when you came out? A. Twice the distance of the Court—he was taken exactly opposite the Rev. Mr. Cotton's house, at the end of Newgate.

JAMES STANTON . On the 3rd of March I was going down Newgate-street, and heard a desperate smash of a window—I turned to the right and saw the prisoner going down the middle of the road, between the carts—I ran and collared him, and took these eleven scarfs from him.

Prisoner's Defence. I heard a cry of "Stop thief," and a window break—I took up the scarfs when the persons had run, and seeing the policeman come across the road I gave him the scarfs—I was not running—the policeman tells you he heard the window broken, but he did not see me break it.

JAMES STANTON re-examined. I saw the scarfs in his hand when I saw him running.

WILLIAM HAMPER re-examined. On my coming out the mob said, "That is the man," and I saw the prisoner running.

GUILTY .* Aged.— Confined One Year.

Before Lord Chief Baron Abinger.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-946
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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946. EDWARD EDWARDS was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of December, at St. Marylebone, 1 bag, value 1d.; and 15£5 promissory notes, the goods and property of John Bloomfield, in the dwelling-house of Nathaniel Tarr.

JOHN BLOOMFIELD . On the 13th of December, 1836, I was in London—and near one of the bridges a man came across the road, and asked me How beasts sold at Smithfield the day before—it was the show at Smithfield the day before—I told him I did not know, for I had not any to sell—(this was not the prisoner)—he said, "I had, but they were sold badly"—he then said, "Do you know much about London?"—I said, "No, not a great deal; I know enough to find where I want to go"—he said, "I never was in London but once before in my life; if you have no objection, I should like to walk with you"—we walked together, till we came to the top of the Haymarket, and near the corner house, called the Black Horse, he said, "Would you like to take a draught of ale?"—this was between eleven and twelve o'clock in the morning—we went in and had a pint of ale, and the prisoner then came in—he passed us, went round the table, threw himself back, and threw his umbrella on the table—he was dressed in black—I got up, and said, "We are going"—he said, "Oh, gentlemen, I wish you only had the good luck as I have had"—the other man said, "Oh, How is that"—the prisoner said, "Oh, I have done them! I have done them! I have done them!"—the other man said, "What do you met by doing them?"—"Oh," he said, "look here"—he put his hand into his pocket, and pulled out what appeared a handful of notes, and sovereigns mixed with them—he said, "Look here; I have done them"—the other man gave me a jog of the arm, and said he never saw such a fool in his life; to show his notes—I said, "Well, I am going"—he said, "Oh, let us have his story out"—the prisoner had called for some ale—the other man said, "Don't be in a hurry; How did you do them?"—the prisoner said, "I wish every body was as lucky as I am now; I lived with an uncle and a brother, and they treated me very ill; I left them, and lived some distance from them; after some time I came back, and found my uncle was dead; there was an old woman, named Betty Meachan, and she said, 'Oh Teddy, then, you are back again, why don't you go and take the farm your brother is in?' I said, 'I have no business with it;' she said, 'Yes, it belongs to you;' I said, 'I don't think that;' she said, 'Give me 50l., and I will tell you How you can get it;' I went to the lawyer's, and had an agreement drawn up that I would give her 50l. if I got the property; the old woman then told the story How I was to have it, and I said, 'How can that be, when my brother is older than I am?' she said, 'Never mind, your brother was born out of wedlock, and you will gain the property'"—we then came out—the prisoner followed, but before that the man said, "Ayn't there a place called Gardens worth seeing?"—I said, "I suppose you mean the Zoological Gardens, Regent's Park"—we agreed to go there—I had occasion to call in Old Bond-street, and left my great coat and an umbrella there—I told the gentleman there that two friends were going with me to the Gardens, and I should not be home till night time—I considered them both friends—the prisoner had joined us before I got to Old Bond-street—we walked together, and said very little—when we came to the Regent's Arms, York Terrace, the man I first met proposed to go and have something to drink, and we all went in together—refreshment was called for—I said, "I do not think we can go in without a ticket"—I went to the bar, and asked for one, and they gave me a ticket to go in—we sat, chatting, nearly an hour, in the tap-room—at last the prisoner showed his notes again—the other one said. "I suppose he thinks nobody has got money but himself"—he pulled out a pocket-book, and said, "I have got two

£10 notes as well as him; I am not without money"—he said, How careful we ought to be for fear of being robbed about London, and he thought it a good way to mark the notes for fear of being robbed, if we had got any—the prisoner said, "Oh, is that right? well, we had better have them marked"—they accordingly went and got pen and ink brought into the parlour—I had my notes all doubled up close in a little bag inside my shirt next my skin—I pulled them out and a little book to take down the numbers—I had them down by the side of me, and got ready to pull them out, but the prisoner jumped up and stamped on the floor, and said, "Shoot, shoot! if you want to shoot, I have got guns enough at home: I have two or three"—I looked sharp at him—he seemed crazy, and in the meantime while I was looking, my notes were taken by one of them, and the prisoner went out and the other followed him—I went to take up my notes, but instead of them there was a piece of paper doubled up much about the size of my notes—I saw what was the matter, and ran out directly—the Regent's Arms is nearly a corner house—I asked a man if he had seen any body run out—he said a man in top boots had run across into the New-road as hard as he could run—I could see nothing of him, and thought it best to go down to the Bank, where the notes were payable—I told them what had happened, and asked their advice—they said they would stop them, but I did not know the numbers of the notes—I had drawn them from the bank at Hadley, and they took the numbers down—I went to Marylebone office and told them—they wrote a letter and sent to Suffolk to the bankers to know the numbers—I went about for two days to look for the men, but could not find them—I described the men to the landlord of the house, and a short time ago I had a letter to say the prisoner was in custody—I came to town and saw him at Bow-street office, and am sure he is the same person—I will swear to him—if he did not take my notes, he assisted in taking them—he is the man that said, "Shoot, shoot"—I had 75l. in£5 notes, and I lost them all.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. You have never seen your notes since? A. No—this was in 1836—I had enough to make me sure of the man by losing the money—I have not seen the farming man in top boots since—I am a farmer, and live at Monk Seeley, in Suffolk.

Q. When did you give any intimation that you had money? A. In the Regent's park—I said nothing about it before—the prisoner went out of the house first—I know him by the look of him—I swear positively he is the man.

NATHANIEL TARR . I keep the Regent's Arras, York-terrace. On the 13th of December, I recollect the prosecutor and two men coming into the house—it happened to be my birth-day—they went into the parlour and called for refreshment, which was served them, and in a few minutes after the prosecutor came to the bar and asked for a ticket of admission to the Zoological Gardens, which my daughter-in-law gave him—he took it, and Mrs. Tarr said, "You are very late to-day"—they staid for an hour, and then the two men deliberately walked out of the parlour, and along the passage—one stood at the door with a pipe in his mouth till the other came up to him, but he never turned his face to enable me to identify his features—immediately after the prosecutor came to the bar and said he was robbed of his money, and said, "Which way did he go"—we ran out, but they had made their escape—I had not any opportunity of seeing the prisoner to say whether he was the man.

GUILTY of larceny only.—Aged 50.

First Jury, before Lord Chief Baron Abinger.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-947
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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947. EDWARD EDWARDS was again indicted for stealing, on the 20th of February, 10 sovereigns, and 1 half-sovereign, the monies of Erasmus Pilling, in the dwelling-house of Edward Smith.

ERASMUS PILLING . I met with the prisoner on the 20th of February, at the Saracen's Head, Snowhill—I had come by coach the day before from Yorkshire—I had been out to leek for a lodging, and had come to the Saracen's Head—the prisoner followed me in in the course of about two minutes—I was reading the paper—a young woman was there, who was going to Brignal, Yorkshire, and she was conversing with the guard of the coach she was going with—I said I knew Brignal perfectly well—the prisoner said, "Yes, and I know it perfectly well, I have been there often"—I said, "Indeed! I was not aware I had one of my own countrymen so near me"—he said, "Yes, I am a Yorkshireman"—we got into conversation, and conversed about half an hour—at last he said, would I have a walk—I said I had no objection—I went out with him, down Newcastle-street and Farringdon-street, till we came near the Fleet Prison—he then said, "What do you say to a glass of ale?"—I said I had no objection—crossed the street, and went into a public-house on the contrary side of the street, and had a pint of half-and-half, which I paid for—in the course of a few minutes, an old gentleman came in, with a drab top-coat on, and a stick; and he said, in the course of conversation, that he had been having a trial with a brother in town here, and he had won the day—he pulled out a lot of notes—as near as I could judge I took them to be about 200£10 notes—I said to him, "Sir, you will excuse the liberty I am about to take, but I should advise you to keep your money rather more secret, and not hand it out in public company"—he said, "I am not at all afraid, it is my own; it is what I earned at the trial, and I have a right to it"—I said nothing against that, but I said, "You are not, perhaps, aware what kind of company you may be in"—he said, oh, he was not at all afraid—I said, "I have no occasion, if you have not"—he said he thought he had met with two friends, would we partake of a glass along with him—I said I had no objection, but he must ask the one on my right, the prisoner, who was a perfect stranger to me—I never saw him before in my life—he said, "Well, what you think proper"—accordingly I said, "Well, I have no objection; if you think proper, I will have a glass of whiskey and water," which we all three partook of—in the course of a short time the other man said again, "Well, I am so glad I have met with two friends"—I said, "You don't know whether they will be friends or not, probably"—"Well," he said, "you appear to be friends, you guarded me against being robbed"—I said, "Yes, I should always wish to do that, because I have heard speak of robberies in London, though I never was here before, but for a day or two"—he then said, would we go along with him to the Zoological Grardens—I said yes, I did not mind, I should much like to see them—he said he had got a ticket in his pocket, which would admit as many as he thought proper to take—he took it out, and it was half torn in two—he said, "I should much like to see them myself, and if you think proper to go with me I shall be most happy," or some such language—we conversed about something else, I cannot exactly say what just now—he repeated the terms over again that he had met with two friends, and he was so exceedingly glad, and he would treat us to the theatre—nothing had passed about my money then—he had handed his out, but said nothing about mine

—when he said he would treat us to the theatre, I said I did not wish to infringe on his property in that way; if he had got it easily, we would pay each for ourselves—he would not hear of anything of the king, but would treat us—it was fixed that we should go the day after to the theatre—he then said he should like to have a walk, and we went through Farringdon-market, and from one street to another—being a stranger, I did not take particular notice of the names of the streets—we went from one street to another, and so on, till we came to Water-lane—the prisoner went into several houses there, to see, as he said, if there was a fire in the parlour—he came out of several of them again, and said there was no fire—at last, he went into a house, and came out, saying, "There is no fire here, but the landlord will put one in if we go"—accordingly we went in—he then asked if we had any objection to go without a fire—I said, "Not the least"—he asked the old gentleman, and he said he had not the least objection—he went to the counter, and said he would treat us again—we had another glass of whiskey each, which was brought in to us—while the man was lighting the fire, the old gentleman said, "I don't much like whiskey, I will have a glass of gin-and-water," which he had, and paid for the whole of the three—in the course of a few minutes he pulled out his notes again—I again cautioned him about it—he said, "Well, I will take your advice; I will have them placed in my fob, or home secure pocket"—I said, "Yes, do so"—he said, "Have you got any paper in your pocket?"—I said, "I don't know"—I began to feel, when the prisoner brought out a piece of brown paper, and gave it to the old gentleman—he wrapped up the notes, and asked me if I would place them in his fob—I said, "Yes, with pleasure," and I did so—in the course of a few minutes, he said, "Well, as you are a stranger as well as myself, I should advise you to have yours placed in a secure pocket"—accordingly, pulled out my purse, and placed ten sovereigns and a half on the table—the prisoner placed his hand on them, placed them out, and said, "There is ten sovereigns and a half, I think"—I said, "Yes, I am aware of it"—he said he would wrap them up for me, and place them in my pocket—I thought he was doing so—I stood up, and pulled up my waistcoat, for him to place them into my fob, as I thought, and sat down again—in the course of a minute or two, the old man said he must go to the door—he went out, and the prisoner said, "Well, I don't know what our old friend is doing; I will go and see, and bring him back"—accordingly he went, and staid a few minutes—I thought to myself, it was time I should see what they were both doing—I went out, but could see neither of them—I again returned, went into the parlour, and thought to myself, I will see what I have got in my fob now—I put my finger into my fob, and brought out this piece of paper, and looking into it, found five farthings and two halfpence, in place of my ten sovereigns and a half.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Are you quite sure about the prisoner putting his hand upon the sovereigns? A. I am confident of it—it was not the old gentleman—I can perceive the difference between an old man and a young one—being a countryman, and advising the old man to wrap up his money, I thought it was proper to take the same advice myself—I have never seen my sovereigns since—I am confident they were sovereigns that I laid down on the table—I had not shown them to any one before—I saw the female at the Saracen's Head—she was a servant—I had never seen her before in my life.

JOHN KIRKMAN . I am a policeman. I apprehended the prisoner the 28th of February, on the charge of robbing the prosecutor, from description given of him, and having seen the man before—I followed him from the theatre, which was breaking up, to a public-house in Bow-street where I took him into custody—I found three flash notes upon him.

GEORGE CARTER . I am a waiter at the Saracen's Head. I remember the prosecutor coming there on the 19th of February, by the York coach—he slept at our house, and went out next morning—he came in again, and the prisoner followed him in—I had seen the prisoner before, but did not know him—he had merely come in and looked round, as many people do to see if persons have come by coach, and I thought he did so—when he followed the prosecutor in he asked for a glass of ale, and had the taken off—he sat down, and joined in conversation with the prosecutor about Yorkshire, but what they said I do not know—they went out together—about two o'clock the prosecutor returned, and said this man had robbed him.

Cross-examined. Q. Am I to understand you to swear that you had seen the prisoner come in and look about him, in your tap-room, before the day the prosecutor was there, or since? A. Before—I did not take particular notice of the time, because I did not take particular notice of the man—I am sure it was before, and not after the prosecutor was there.

GUILTY of larceny only.— Transported for Seven Years.

Fourth Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-948
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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948. JAMES SMITH was indicted for feloniously assaulting John Thomas Noble, on the 27th of March, and unlawfully and maliciously cutting and wounding him on his head, with intent to maim and disable him or to do him some grievous bodily harm.

MR. JONES conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN THOMAS NOBLE . I live at Stepney-green. My father is possessed of some houses in Lincoln-court, Drury-lane—I collect the rents for him—about a week before Christmas the prisoner applied to me to take a room—I agreed to let it him if he would give me a deposit, which he declined, and I locked the room again, and said he should not have it—about a fortnight afterwards I went to the house again, and found him in possession of a room on the other side of the court—I asked How he came there—he said he did not know—I said I would not let it him without I deposit—he said, "I considered my goods would be a sufficient deposit"—I said, "That will not do; I did not let it to you, and here you shall not remain," and I would fetch a policeman, but as he said his wife was lately confined, I thought I would let it be for a week or two—I did not molest him—he remained there, and never paid me any rent—on my going there on the 27th of March, I asked if he intended to remove, or to hold possession in defiance of me—he said he would go when it suited him—I said "Will it suit you in a week, fortnight, a month, or two months?"—he repeated, that he would go when it suited him—I then told him he should go before, for depend upon it he should not remain there—I had not made any motion to remove him—he rose up and seized me by the breast of my waistcoat with both hands, which he tore, forced me over a chair, threw me on the ground, and endeavoured to beat me, but I defended myself, so that he could not do me any material injury—he struck at me, but I defended myself as I lay on my back, and he did not hurt me seriously—I

could not get up—he held me down, and was over me—he then called to his wife for the poker, and, as she did not give it him, he extricated himself from me, and reached it before I could rise—when I raised my head about two feet from the floor, he struck me in the front of my head with the poker—it had a stunning effect, and having called for help, I saw a young man who was looking at the room—this confused the prisoner, and I was able to escape out of the room—a great quantity of blood came from my head—a policeman came, went up stairs, broke open the door, and took him—he had not got into the room with my father's consent or mine.

Q. Did you take any means by using your hands to remove him before you were struck? A. No; Mr. Smitch, a surgeon, attended me, and dressed my wound.

Prisoner. Q. Did not you come into my room and knock me off my seat? A. No, I did not—I showed him some rooms on the opposite side—I never showed him the room in question, nor saw him in it till I found him there—I might have sent him up to look at it, but I distinctly declined setting him a room without a deposit—I asked him if he would go in a week, a fortnight, a month, or two months; and if he had promised to leave then, I should have communicated with my father, and asked his advice.

Prisoner. The first week he came I owed him 18d.—he wanted to throw my wife and infant into the street, and brought a policeman up to have me turned out. Witness. I did so after having seen him there, but the policeman refused to act—I did not intend to turn him out, but to take the wife into custody to answer for being there—the policeman refused—I went to the station-house, and they refused assistance—I went to a Magistrate, and he said he was very sorry, but he had no power to interfere—I did not go near the prisoner for two or three months after.

Prisoner. He told me to look at the room, and take it if I gave him a deposit, and said he would give me a lock and key as soon as I had got my things in it. Witness. I never did—I did not apply for any rent when I found him there with his wife confined in it—he has said he would pay me, but I always said, "I will not have your rent, you came without my leave, and I will have you out"—he never produced any money—the rooms are generally locked, but at times a lock it broken, and he might have found it open.

COURT. Q. If you sent him up to look at it and it was locked, How could he get there?" A. If I did I must have given him the key, but I do not recollect sending him at all to look at it—I am quite sure I refused him as a tenant, on his not agreeing to make a deposit.

CHARLES OSBORN . I live in Lincoln-court. The prisoner was living on the third floor back-room—I was living underneath on the second floor—on the 27th of March I heard a scuffle up above stairs—I ran up, and saw the prisoner and prosecutor scuffling together on the floor—the prosecutor was undermost—the prisoner forced himself away from the prosecutor, went on the other side of the room, brought something in his hand, and struck the prosecutor a violent blow on the head—the blood gushed out directly—I went down stairs to give an alarm, and the prisoner seeing me on the stairs, the prosecutor had time to get up and run down stairs—he sent for a policeman, who came and took the prisoner—I saw him strike the blow, but what it was with I cannot say—it had the appearance of something dark—I ran down stairs, and the prosecutor got up and ran out.

Prisoner. This is a curious character—he is never in till three or four o'clock in the morning—why not go to Bow-street with the prosecutor! Witness. I did not know it was fit I should go till the gentleman came next day and asked me to go—I said I would, but did not wish to go without being asked—I was never in the House of Correction—sometimes I am out till eleven and sometimes till twelve o'clock—I was never taken up for picking pockets—my wife sells matches at times—I was never take up on suspicion of stealing anything—I did not tell your wife that I never saw or heard any thing of this.

WILLIAM CROSS . I am a policeman. I was called in on the 27th of March to take the prisoner—the door was fast—I requested him to open it—he said he would not—I said I was an officer—he said, "I don't came who you are, I will not open the door for you nor anybody"—I broke it open, and took him into custody—I found this poker in the room—it is an iron bolt—the prosecutor's face was covered with blood, which was falling from his face—I observed a wound in his head—I took the prisoner in about twenty minutes afterwards, before the Magistrate—there was no time to look for any witnesses—the prosecutor appeared seriously injured.

Prisoner. Q. Did you ever have the last witness in custody? A. Never—I never saw him to my knowledge.

CHARLES JAMES SMITCH . I am a surgeon to the police-force. I was called on to attend Noble, on the 27th of March—I found him with a deep lacerated wound in the scalp, about two inches in length, and it penetrated to the bone—it was on the forehead—considerable force must have been used to inflict such a wound—an instrument of this kind is very likely to have occasioned such a wound—the skin was broken—I did not consider that any danger was likely to arise—the bone underneath was not injured—that part of the head is exceedingly thick—a blow on the top of the head would be attended with much more serious consequence—I should think it was a single blow.

Prisoner's Defence. I asked him what he objected to me for—he said he would have me out, and knocked me off my seat—I had a knife in my hand, which I threw away—I got up, and he shoved me into my bed—I called out to him, "Noble, Noble, you will kill my child"—he said "Take your child away, I don't care"—I then struck him, and he fell with his face against the corner of a box or broken chair, which he had broken himself in the scuffle.

MART REARDON . I live in Lincoln-court—my husband is a bootmaker. I have known the prisoner going on for two years—he bore a very good character.

MR. JONES. Q. What number in Lincoln-court do you live at? A. No. 9, in the same room as the prisoner—I pass as his wife—I am not so—I was there on the 27th of March, when Mr. Noble came.

COURT. Q. Did the prisoner strike the prosecutor? A. No, not that I saw—the prosecutor struck him first—he received the blow on his head by falling over the box—they both fell into the bed on the floor together over the box, in the scuffle, and he got the wound by the edge of the box, as far as I can think—we had this iron in the room, but he never took it in his hand while the prosecutor was in the room, nor any other weapon.

MR. SMITCH re-examined. I think it very improbable for the wound to be produced by the edge of a box—it is far more probable to be produced by an instrument of this kind—I examined the wound very particularly.

GUILTY of an assault only.— Confined Two Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-949
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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949. CALEB JACKSON BRISTOLL was indicted for stealing, on he 12th of February, 24 rings, value 14l.; 9 snaps, value 1l.; 1 neckchain and locket, value 1l.; 1 work-box, value 1l. 10s.; 16 ear-rings, value 1l.; 1 pair of ear-rings, value 10s.; 24oz. weight of coral, value 9l.; pencil-cases, value 3l.; 36 thimbles, value 2l.; 2 breast-pins, value 5l.; and 13 sovereigns; the goods and monies of Thomas Bristoll, in his dwvelling-house; and burglariously breaking out of the same about the hour of two in the night of the same day.

THOMAS BRISTOLL . I am an engraver, and live in King William-street, West Strand. I occupy the whole house—my family consisted of my wife, two female children, and the prisoner—we occupied the drawing-rooms of the house, and slept in the front attic—the prisoner slept in the back attic—the partition between the two rooms is lath and plaster on both sides—on the night of the 12th of February I went to bed, after fastening the street door, and seeing all safe in the house, and also seeing that the prisoner was safe in his room—I had two bolts placed outside his door, to keep him in the night, in consequence of his being addicted to thieving—in the morning I was awoke by the barking of a dog, and, fancying I heard somebody in the room, I got out of bed, and found my bed-room door opened, which I had fastened inside overnight—I then thought I heard somebody go down stairs, and on going down myself I heard one bolt after the other of the street door drawn back, and the door open—I went down as fast as I could, and found it wide open—I was in my shirt—I thought it was some stranger had got into the house—I shut the door, and went up stairs to discover whether any thing was missing—it was between five and o'clock in the morning, and quite dark—I am certain it was before six o'clock—I got a light, and discovered a box, in which I used to keep some jewellery, had been broken open—that box was placed under my bed, and a great quantity of articles were taken away—I then discovered that I had lost from my trowsers pocket a purse, containing thirteen sovereigns and some silver—I called in a policeman, and called the prisoner's name, but got no answer—I withdrew the bolt of his door, which was still fastened, and tried to get in, but the bed had been removed from its place, so that the door would hardly open—I was obliged to push bed and door to get in—I then discovered his jacket, waistcoat, shoes, and cap, but he was gone—on looking behind the bed, in the corner where it usually stood, there were two holes, one sufficiently large to admit him through into my bed-room—I also found a saw, all over whitening, from the wall, and a loaded pistol on the table—on turning up his bed, between the bed and sacking I found a great many articles which had been taken from the box which was broken open—we then searched the inside of the bed, and found a quantity of coral beads, and some other articles—I gave information to the police—I missed a number of pencil-cases, four diamond rings, and some other things—I had seen the rings and pencil-cases safe about a week or ten days before—the box was all safe then, and the things all right in it—there was no way of getting from his room except through the window or the hole in the wall—there was no way of getting into my room except through the hole in the wall—I have not found any of the property—I saw nothing of the prisoner till he apprehended at Liverpool—I saw him again last Saturday week—I do not know any of his acquaintances or friends.

Prisoner. There is a boy I know who came to me at a place where I went—he used to watch me to our place—at last he said he had no place to

sleep in, and would I let him in, as his father and mother had turned him out—I said I would give him a night's lodging; and in the night he was groping about the place—I asked what he was doing—he had a pistol in his hand, and said, "If you don't hold your noise I will blow your brains out"—he jumped on my breast, and said, "If you don't tell me where your father and mother keep their money I will blow your brains out"—I said I did not know, but he had received some money, and he generally carried it in his pocket; that I was as much in want of money as him, but never could get any, and the door was fastened, and I could not get in—he had some tools about him—he pulled them out, and pulled a great piece of mortar out—when my father went down stairs, he said, "Who is that?"—I said, "My father," and it was then he got up and said he would blow my brains out if I did not tell him—we made the hole that night, and got ready—we were watching all night to get ready—he asked me if my father had any jewellery—I told him where the box was—he broke it open, took the things, and put then into the bed—I was trembling like a leaf, and I dared not tell my father—the next night he came again, but I dared not tell my father—I let him in and he took all the money away—he told me to come with him—I knew if I stopped at home I should get all the blame of it—I went to Liverpool with him—I was taken up by a policeman, and he ran away—he gave me four sovereigns, and a pair of pistols which he had with him, and said that would do well for my share—I was going to get bound for a ship there.

EMANUEL FELSTEAD (police-constable F 80.) On Tuesday morning, the 13th of February, I was called into the prosecutor's house, and found a variety of articles between the bed and bedstead in the attic, also some cases of jewellery, a loaded pistol on the table, and a saw—I have the articles here.

THOMAS POCOCK (police-constable F 38.) I took possession of these articles.

JOSEPH SHACKELL . I am an officer of Bow-street. On Thursday morning, the 22nd of March, I found the prisoner in the Bridewell, at Liverpool—he was delivered up to me on this charge—I informed him who I was, and that I was going to take him to London—he asked me whether his father intended to transport him—I said I did not know—he said he had been trying to get rid of him for the last four years, and now he had an opportunity of doing so—he said he had let a boy named Reynolds into the house two nights—that he concealed him the first night, then took him up stairs and concealed him under the bed—that the night before he stole the jewellery, and put it under the bed, and the night before the boy brought a skeleton key and auger—that they staid till his father came home in the morning, which was about one o'clock, and when they thought his father was asleep, they crept through the hole and picked his pocket of the sovereigns, and then the dog barking, awoke his father, and they had just time to escape from the house—that on the road to Birmingham they bought the pair of pistols which were found on him—he said Reynolds had brought the pistol to the bed-room, which was found there—I have made inquiry, but cannot find that there is such a boy as Reynolds—here are some necklaces, rings, neck-chains, work-box, and ear-rings of coral—the pencil-cases have not been found, nor the thimbles or money—he told me 4l. and some silver had been found on him when he was first apprehended, which was returned when he was discharged, and he had spent it before he was taken again.

THOMAS BRISTOLL re-examined. My house is in the parish of St. Martin's-in-the-Fields—we occupied the whole house then—I am sure it was not six o'clock when he went out—I did not hear the steps of any second person, nor were there any traces of a second person having been there—I do not know where my son could have procured the pistol—I generally fastened him in his room between half-past nine and ten o'clock—he was generally in his room an hour before the family went to bed—I went to bed before twelve o'clock, and Mrs. Bristoll went to bed nearly an hour before—I think whatever happened to the box must have been previous to either of us going to bed—his bed would conceal the aperture in the wall on his side and my bed would hide it in my room—the hole came underneath the bed—the wall is six or seven inches thick—I have one other son younger than him—I have every reason to believe a boy went down to Liverpool with him, but I am almost sure no second person was in my house—the prisoner has had great opportunities of education—he has been to school since he was an infant up to fourteen years old—he had been at home six months when this happened—I set him down to learn my business.

Prisoner. My father knows every night I came in, I was generally searched, and I was always in bad company. Witness. Sometimes he was searched, but it was very seldom—I did every thing I possibly could to keep him out of bad company—I was obliged when he was only nine years old to send him down to Yorkshire to keep him out of the streets, but when he came back he was quite as bad as before, and considerably more daring.

Prisoner. The dog would not bark at me, because I was always his friend. Witness. The dog frequently barked when I came up stairs late at night—I believe it would bark if anybody in the middle of the night opened a door.

(Properly produced and sworn to.)

GUILTY .* Aged 16.— Transported for Life.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-950
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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950. GEORGE POULTNEY was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Henry Peyton, about the hour of ten in the night of the 29th of March, at St. Nicholas Acons, with intent to steal, and stealing therein, 4 pairs of boots, value 2l.; and 9 pairs of shoes, value 5l.; the goods of the said Henry Peyton.

HENRY PEYTON . I live in King William-street, City, in the parish of St. Nicholas Acons. On Thursday night last, shortly before ten o'clock, (I am sure it was after nine o'clock,) I saw four pairs of boots and nine pairs of shoes packed in a bag, ready to be taken from the house—I occupy the whole house—I was not present at the time.

JOSEPH HENRY ELLIS . I am in the prosecutor's service. On Thursday evening, the 29th of March, I went out of the shop on a message, and returned about twenty minutes to ten o'clock—the shop was then shut up—I tried the door and it was fast, and I went on my way home—a short distance from ray master's shop I met somebody, in consequence of which I turned back and passed the shop, and stopped talking to him for about a minute—I saw the prisoner at my master's door—I saw him stoop down to the lock, which you must stoop to undo, and use both hands at the same time—you cannot open it except you hold it, and use the key at the same time—he stooped as if he was opening the door—he opened it, and went in—I then ran to the door and rapped—I received no answer the first

time—I knocked a second time, and the prisoner opened the door to me—I immediately asked him if Mr. Peyton was at home—he said, no, he was not—I asked him where he was—he said, "Round the corner"—I asked him who he was, what was his business, and who had sent him—(I had a strong suspicion, because the night previous the house had been tried)—he said Mr. Peyton had sent him—I told him he must be wrong, and he must please to stop there till Mr. Peyton came and released him—he did not appear to know me—he said I need not alarm myself, that Mr. Peyton's young man had sent him as well—I then said to him, "I am his young man, and I am sure I have not sent you"—that caused him to be frightened—he made a rush forward—I had got hold of him by the coat—he struck me a violent blow on the head, and ran away—I followed him—I saw him put his right hand back, and pull something out of his pocket, which I thought to be a life preserver—he immediately struck me on the hat, above the head—he happened to hit the soft part of the hat, not the part next my head—I still followed him, and cried out "Stop thief"—a watchman ran off the pavement, and endeavoured to stop him in the middle of the road, and he knocked him down—another young man rushed forward directly and stopped him, and as soon as I saw him encountered with another, I rushed forward and helped to secure him, and he was given into custody—I afterwards returned to my master's shop, and found some shoes and cloth boots on the floor—some were packed in a bag lying on the floor—they were removed from their proper places of deposit in the shop—the bag did not belong to my master—there was a second bag lying close by it.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How long before you came back and tried the door had you been in the shop yourself? A. I left it exactly at nine o'clock—I had no watch, but I heard the clock strike—I was about half a dozen yards from the door, speaking to my friend, when I saw the prisoner stooping down—there were people passing and re passing—I do not know that what he had was a life-preserver—it was not what is termed one, it is a different thing—it was picked up—the constable called it a Jemmy— this is it—(looking at it)—the boots and shoes were not on the floor when I left the shop—they were all in their proper places—I cannot say I noticed them particularly, but they were not on the floor—the door was open when I went out—the shop was not shut then—I left Mr. Peyton, jun., and Mr. Peyton, sen., in the shop—I tried the door when I came back, and went away after trying it—my friend was not with me when I tried the door—I remained with him about a minute—he was in a situation to see what I saw—the gas was alight in the shop, and it shone beautifully—the prisoner opened the door very quickly—he was stooping down to the key-hole to open it—he got in before me, but I was very near catching hold of his coat as he was going in.

JOHN GENESE . I met Ellis in King William-street—he called my attention to his master's house—I saw the prisoner go up to the house, and deliberately put the key into the shop-door, open it, and go in, and he shut the door immediately.

Cross-examined. Q. How far off were you? A. About four yards from the shop—Ellis turned round and looked in the same direction as me, and saw him just opening the door—I was talking to Ellis—we were going in a direction of the bridge, walking very slowly—from the manner he went in I thought he must belong to the place—his back was not to me—I saw his side face.

HENRY JOTCE . I was in King William-street, between nine and ten o'clock on Thursday night—I heard a cry of "Stop thief," and stopped the prisoner in consequence—he was running—a watchman came up and received him into custody—Ellis came up also.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you know Mr. Peyton's shop? A. Yes—I stopped him about fifty yards from there—I am sure I stopped the same person as the watchman took—I held him till Ellis came—he resisted very much.

JOSEPH CAFFYN . I am a butcher, and live in Bermondsey-street. I was passing by Mr. Peyton's shop—as I got up to the door I heard Ellis say to the prisoner, "You must stop here till Mr. Peyton comes to release you—at that time he had hold of the prisoner by the coat—he rushed forward and struck Ellis on the side of the head with his fist, and ran off—I ran after him, calling "Stop thief," and he was stopped by a young man—the prisoner was inside the door when I first saw him—I saw him stopped by Joyce.

Cross-examined. Q. Did not you lose sight of him till you saw him stopped? A. No, I did not—I am sure it was the prisoner—I saw him just inside the shop door—he was stopped close to the railing of the banking-house.

JOSIAH EVANS . I am a street-keeper. The prisoner was brought to the watch-house in Candlewick Ward—I found in his pocket a key—I afterwards found this crow-bar in the railing near the door of Sanderson and Co., Bankers, in King William-street—I applied the key found on the prisoner to Mr. Peyton's shop door, and it opened it easily.

HENRY EYTON re-examined. I had not sent the prisoner to my house—I never recollect seeing him before he was in custody.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you occupy the house? A. Yes—my father is the only person who sleeps there—the shop was closed about nine o'clock—he goes to the West-end generally, to my brother's, and returns about twelve o'clock—the house is left during that time—the boots and shoes are mine—they had been taken off the shelves and deposited in the bag—my father acts in the shop for me—he is not a partner—I pay him a weekly salary.

(Stephen Stiles, carpenter, Kingsland-road; William John Hagan, Edward-street, Kingsland-road; and Magdalen Scott, No. 1, Edward-street, Commercial-road; deposed to the prisoner's good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 28.— Transported for Ten Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-951
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown
SentenceTransportation; Imprisonment

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951. ROBERT LOFTHOUSE, THOMAS LEONARD , and ELIZABETH LEONARD were indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the warehouse of Caleb Pizzie, at St. Luke's, with intent to steal, and stealing therein, 960 sheets of wadding, value 10l.; 221lbs. weight of cotton, value 4l. 4s.; 4 bags, value 2s.; and 2 baskets, value 1l.; his goods.

CALEB PIZZIE . I keep a wadding and cotton warehouse at No. 32, Bunhill-row, St. Luke's. On the 23rd of February, about eight o'clock in the morning, I received information from one of my servants, and immediately went to the warehouse—I found the door forced open, and missed about seven gross of wadding, about 2cwt. of cotton, and two baskets, worth, together, 15l.—the baskets were found on the premises, but they were moved from their place.

WILLIAM HARDICK . I am in the employ of the prosecutor, at his manufactory

in Coleman-street, leading out of Bunhill-row—it is a wadding manufactory. On Friday, the 23rd of February, I shut up manufactory, and locked it—I put the key into my pocket, and took it home with me—I went next morning about eight o'clock—I found the bolt of the lock locked—it was shut close—I turned the key, and it undid it as if it had been locked as usual—I saw no marks of any force—I thought I was opening it in the ordinary way—I went into the store-room, and missed some wadding, which had been safe the night before—I also missed four bags of cotton—I have since seen some wadding at the station-house, which I know.

SAMUEL PINKINS . I am a traveller, and live in Tenter-street, Spital-fields. On Friday afternoon, the 23rd of February, the three prisoners came to my house, and engaged a room on the ground floor—Elizabeth Leonard said she would come in the afternoon and take it, as she was waiting for a person from the London Dock—she said she must come in that night—I asked her for a deposit—she said, "I cannot leave any deposit at present, till I hear from my friend in the Dock, who leaves at four o'clock"—she did not come again till nine o'clock at night, she then said, "I am come at last, the rain kept me back"—the two male prisoners were with her—they had a porter with them, who brought some baskets of wadding, and put it into the room—they all went out again about a quarter after nine o'clock—Lofthouse and the woman came back—Thomas Leonard had stopped at the place—the woman said it was a very wet night which was the reason she had moved her goods so late—she said she would make my room glitter with china and beautiful furniture, which she was going to bring on Monday morning—I went with her and Lofthouse to a public-house, and they gave me some porter, and then went away—next morning (Saturday) I heard a knock at the door, and found Lofthouse and Thomas Leonard—Lofthouse unlocked the room and went in, and was there an hour and a half—I then heard the door go, and he was gone—on the Sunday the officers came to my house, and took away the cotton, which the prisoners had brought there.

Lofthouse. Q. Did not I take the room for myself? A. The woman took the room, and asked you if you liked it—you said, "If you like it, I am satisfied"—I asked for a deposit, and you said you could not give me any, because you had no money, but when you sent in some of the wadding, you would give me a deposit, when you could sell your goods—you were all three together when the porter brought in the goods—you took one of the baskets away yourself, and left me with the porter—I saw the porter leave one, and know there were two.

Elizabeth Leonard. Q. Did I take the room? A. Of course you did—you came twice, and was there when the goods were brought—Thomas Leonard only came once.

Q. Did the policeman tell you you would get 3s. 6d. a day for coming here, when you asked for the rent of the room? A. No—he said nothing of the kind—he did not say, "Nevermind a half-crown, you fool, you will get 3s. 6d. a day up here," nor any thing of the kind.

GEORGE HYATT . I live in Hooper-street, Clerkenwell, and am a trimming-manufacturer. I have a workshop over Mr. Pizzie's warehouse—on Friday evening, the 23rd of February, between nine and ten o'clock, as I came out of the door of my workshop, I saw the prisoner Thomas

Leonard at the prosecutor's door—he had two large baskets, which I have since seen at the office—I am quite sure it was him—it being a rainy night, I round to ask him if he would put the baskets into my place, but seeing him open the door with a key, I did not say any thing to him—people who have the prosecutor's baskets often put them into my place—I saw him open the door—I did not wait to see him enter—I believe he had a key—his hand was up at the keyhole—I saw nobody else.

THOMAS SEAL (police-constable G 16.) On Saturday, the 24th of February, I examined the outer door of the prosecutor's factory, about eleven o'clock—I observed marks on the door and door-post—the box of the lock was forced completely off, and hanging by the bottom screw—I apprehended Lofthouse and Thomas Leonard that afternoon, at No. 104, Went-worth-street, Whitechapel, and I apprehended Elizabeth Leonard next day at the same place—I went to Pinkin's house, and found on the ground-floor 960 odd sheets of wadding, and some quantity of loose cotton—I produce part of the wadding as a sample—there were no baskets there—I should say the wadding I found would more than fill two baskets.

GEORGE WILLIAM BALL (police-constable G 226.) On Sunday, the 25th of February, I went to Wentworth-street, Whitechapel, and saw Elisabeth Leonard, in a room at No. 104 or No. 106—there were two other women with her—I heard her say to one of them, "If you will give me a shilling, I will take you and give you a dozen of wadding, but you must be very careful, and wrap them up in your apron, so that they shall not be seen"—the door was ajar—this was before they knew I was there—I went in, and took her into custody—the woman answered her, "Take and tell where the waddings are deposited, and clear my husband, for I How he is innocent"—that woman is below now, her name is Bowers.

Elizabeth Leonard. The two dozen waddings were in the room when the policeman came, and they were bought by Thomas Leonard, of the prosecutor—he sells wadding—the prosecutor ordered the policeman to fetch them, and I said to the woman, "If you will go and give me a shilling to pay the landlord, as he wanted to detain them for rent, I will give you the wadding, and you can sell it." Witness. What she is talking of was on the 23rd—it is on the 25th I am speaking of—I found a bundle of wadding in the room, but not two dozen.

Elizabeth Leonard. We are all wadding-makers—I kept a factory of my own once, and one of my boys put the prosecutor into business—I know nothing of his wadding at all—Lofthouse told me to go into the room, but I never knew where the wadding came from.

CALEB PIZZIE re-examined. The prisoner, Thomas Leonard, did not work for meat any time—he occasionally bought a few waddings of me—I never knew Elizabeth Leonard before she was taken into custody—I did not know she had a brother—they have bought a few goods of me to sell—I knew nothing of the female prisoner till she was in custody—the wadding which was taken away was much more than Thomas Leonard could carry at once—it would require a strong man four times to carry them.

Thomas Leonard. I bought four dozen of black waddings that day for 5s—the day being wet I could not sell them, and I took them home—next morning I sold two dozen of them, and was going to pay him for them when the policeman took me.

ROBERT BACKHOUSE (police-constable H 92.) I was near the cells where the prisoners were waiting for examination—I first of all heard a

knocking at the partition between the two cells, and heard the female prisoner call on Bob several times—Lofthouse answered, "Halloo," and she said, "Remember, you know nothing about the key, or the wedding"—he said, "Hold your tongue, you b—y fool, you know nothing about it either"—she said, "Old Pizzie says he has got all his wadding"—he said, "He is a b—y liar."

Elizabeth Leonard. I was talking to my brother John, not to Lofthouse—I said, "Pizzie says he has got his waddings," and he said, "There is several dozens of mine among them"—this policeman has come for his 2s. a day—I knew his brother among the "white boys," and he was nearly hung for murder.

Lofthouse. Is it likely among fifteen or sixteen he should know my voice?—there was no such thing mentioned—nobody spoke to any of the women.

Elizabeth Leonard. The waddings never could be moved by five or six men—I saw a policeman moving them at first, and he has been dismissed from the force since—I am well aware some of the police have been concerned in it—it could not have gone along all that distance without being seen by the police—I know nothing about it—I lost 11, 000l. by waddings in seven years, and have had enough of them—I have lived fifteen years in the neighbourhood of Whitechapel—I have been in a madhouse, and what the policeman did not rob me of I lost, but the present policemen know nothing of me.

GEORGE HYATT re-examined. (Looking at the baskets)—These are the baskets I saw the prisoner, Thomas Leonard, with—he was not carrying them—they were down on the ground, close to the door.

CALEB PIZZIE re-examined. These are my baskets—they were left on my premises the following morning, and were very wet, and so were the papers inside, as if they had been out in the rain, and the cords were very wet.

SAMUEL PINKINS re-examined. The wadding was brought into my premises in baskets, such as these—I did not know what it was when it first came—I thought it was crockery—the porter, who was with them, carried the baskets away—they all three went away together, the first time, with the baskets, after emptying them; and then Lofthouse, and the female prisoner, came a second time, with the baskets again—Thomas Leoanrd was not with them then.

Lofthouse. He was ill in bed when I was there, and he did not see me at all. Witness. I opened the door and let you in, and then went to bed again.

Elizabeth Leonard. I lived in the neighbourhood and saw them with the baskets, and there was a policeman with them, who has since been dismissed from the force, and I could not conceive there was any thing wrong in it.

THOMAS SEAL re-examined. On the morning after the robbery, another brother of Lofthouse-came to Mr. Pizzie's, and I had reason to conceive he was concerned in the robbery—I had reason to understand he was drinking with a policeman on the beat, and that policeman was dismissed.

(The prisoner Thomas Leonard received a good character.)



Transported for Ten Years.

THOMAS LEONARD— GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined Six Months.

NEW COURT.—Wednesday, April 4th, 1838.

before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-952
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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952. MARTHA JEFFREYS was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of March, 5 pencil-cases, value 11s.; 1 brush, value 6d.; 4 lead pencils, value 3d.; and 1 printed book, value 3d.; the goods of Edward Wallis, her master.

EDWARD WALLIS . I live in High-street, Islington, and am a jeweller. I lost these articles—the officer is not here with them.

(THOMAS HOBBS KING, police-serjeant, being called on his recognizance did tot answer.)


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-953
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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953. SAMUEL SIMONDS was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of March 3 spoons, value 2l. 18s.; and 3 printed books, value 1l. 4s.; the goods of Jonas Levy, his master.

JONAS LEVY . I live in Prescott-street. The prisoner was my errandboy about a month—he left me without notice on the 5th of March—I missed these articles the same afternoon.

SAMUEL MATTHEWS . I am a pawnbroker and live at Romford. The prisoner brought this gravy-spoon to my shop to pledge on Wednesday, the 7th of March—I asked what he wanted—he said as much as I chose to lend him—I said, "Where did you get it"—he said he bought it of a man in Houndsditch for 3s.—I detained him.

(Property produced, and sworn to.)

SAMUEL SOUTHEY . I am an officer. Matthews brought the prisoner this spoon to me—I came to London, and found the books and one at St. Giles's, and the other spoon at another plated—the prisoner told me he had left them there.

GUILTY. Aged 15.—Recommended to mercy .— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-954
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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954. WILLIAM REYNOLDS was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of March, 5 half-crowns, 11 shillings, and 11 sixpences; the monies of Richard Payne Hutchings, from the person of Martha Hutchings.

MARTHA HUTCHINGS . I am the wife of Richard Payne Hutchings, of Welbeck-street, Cavendish-square. On the 8th of March, at half-past five o'clock in the evening, I was with Mrs. Godfrey, in Coventry-street—a mob got round me—I felt something behind me—I put my hand down, and caught the prisoner's hand in my bag, which was on my arm—I had nearly 2l. in silver, loose in the bag—I caught hold of the prisoner, and said he had got my money—a man that was with him tried to take my attention from the prisoner, and wanted to turn me round—the prisoner got away from me—I followed, and caught sight of him again—I lost sight of him for about ten minutes—I found him next at St. James's station-house—I had 11s. remaining in the bag—11s. 6d. was picked up in the street, which the prisoner threw away—three half-crowns. and 11s. were gone—I am sure he is the man.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Can you tell How he was dressed? A. In a black coat, very brown from being worn very much—he had a hat on—I was frightened.

HANNAH GODFREY . I am the wife of John Godfrey, of Tottenham-court-road—I was with the prosecutrix—the prisoner took something from

her—I have not the least doubt it was him—I saw him at the station house, and I am sure he is the person.

Cross-examined. Q. Were there many people about? A. There was a crowd.

JOSEPH DOWNES . I live in Oxford-street, and am a clock-maker, I was in Coventry-street, and saw the prosecutrix collar the prisoner—she said, "That man has got my money"—he ran—I followed him up Sherrard-street into Queen-street—he threw something out of his hand—I heard some money fall—I cried, "Stop thief," and he was taken by the policeman—I am quite sure he is the man.

Cross-examined. Q. Did he not deny it? A. He did—there might he twenty people in the crowd—she had him by the collar.

GUILTY . Aged 30.— Transported for Ten Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-955
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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955. JULIA SULLIVAN was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of March, 1 half-sovereign, 3 half-crowns, and 1 shilling; the monies of Michael Murray, from the person of Hannah Murray.

HANNAH MURRAY . I live in Mermaid-row, Chelsea, and am the wife of Michael Murray. The prisoner lived in my house six weeks—about twelve o'clock at night, on the 5th of March, I was lying on my bed with my clothes on, waiting for my husband—I had a half sovereign, three half crowns, and one shilling in my pocket—I went to sleep with that in my pocket, and awoke at five o'clock in the morning—the prisoner was sitting up in my room when I went to sleep—when I awoke, my pocket was cut, and I could not find the money—the prisoner was gone away out of the house—I found her in a public-house in Jews-row, drunk, about an hour after—there were some more persons in my room—I cannot swear that she took it—I seized her pocket, and found 5s. 2 1/2 d. in a rag in it—I knew the rag—it was mine, and had had my money in it when in my pocket—I asked her for my money—she abused me and said she had not had it—I cannot exactly swear to this rag—I do not know whether it is the one I had—I told the Magistrate it was—I partly guessed it was.

JOSEPH TINGEY . I keep the Snow-Shoes public-house, in Royal Hospital-row. On monday morning the prisoner came into my house—I gave her change for a half sovereign—she had a quartern of rum.

JOHN SMITHERS (police-constable B 67.) I took the prisoner for stealing this money—she said that the woman told a falsehood about it, for she only took 9s. from her; and Mrs. Murray produced this piece of rag, which she said the money was in in her pocket.

Prisoner's Defence (written.) I lodged there—I went into a public-house and had some porter, where my prosecutrix was with two women and a man, and her husband—we had two quarterns of rum, and then went into the tap-room—my prosecutrix asked if I intended to go to her house—I said, "No"—she said, "I am almost drunk, will you go with me home"—I did, and she would not go to bed—I left her, and the next morning she abused me for stealing 18s. 6d.

GUILTY . Aged 45.— Confined One Year.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-956
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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956. MARTIN HAWKINS was indicted for feloniously forging and uttering, on the 17th of March, an order for the payment of 40l., with intent to defraud Henry Drummond and others.

MR. ADOLPHUS conducted the Prosecution.

RICHARD CHADWICK . I am an auctioneer in St. Martin's-lane, St. Martin's-in-the-fields. The prisoner was my errand-boy—I had an account with Messrs. Drummonds, and kept my check-book in a small cupboard with closed doors—one day I left the key in the door, and when I came home the prisoner gave me the key—I soon after saw a check produced from Drunmonds'—it was not my writing—I had authorised no one to draw it.

GEORGE CHARLES COX . I am clerk to Henry Drummond and Co. On the 17th of March the prisoner brought in a check for 40l., about eleven o'clock in the morning—I looked, and asked who he had obtained it from—he aid, "From Mr. Wright, in Warwick-street"—that is all the conversation we had—I detained him—this is the check—(producing it)—it is not Mr. Chadwick's writing—it purports to be drawn by him.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you go to Warwick-street? A. No; I did not ask him the number.

RICHARD CHADWICK re-examined. This check is not my writing—I believe the whole of it is the prisoner's writing—I have seen him write, and believe this is his writing.

Cross-examined. Q. This is rather a good hand for such a boy as that? A. Yes, he wrote well—it is not at all like my writing.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Did you ask the prisoner any thing about this? A. Yes—he said he picked it off the floor, and it was already written—I asked what he was going to do with the money—he said, to give it to his mother—I have since looked at my check-book—I had written a check, and torn it—immediately after that a check had been cut out close to the binding—I always tear them out through the check-mark.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY. Aged 12.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury .— Confined Two Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-957
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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957. GEORGE CADBY was indicted for bigamy.

WILLIAM TAILOR . I live in Wellington-street, St. John's Wood-road, Marylebone. The prisoner married my sister, Elizabeth Fortescue Taylor, in the 1st of September, 1834, at Marylebone church—I was present at the marriage—they lived together after that a short time—she is alive now—I saw her yesterday.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. You are brother of the first wife? A. Yes; she was about sixteen or seventeen—I do not think the prisoner was more than twenty-one—the marriage was without her father's consent—the prisoner did not treat her very well—he only lived with her six weeks—I do not know why they separated—my father fetched her away—the prisoner would not live with her.

MARGARET TAYLOR . I am the mother of the last witness. What he has said with respect to the marriage is quite correct—I went to know the reason why the prisoner was going to leave my daughter, but I did not wish to take her away—she did not wish to go herself, and her father, my brother-in-law, and I went, and the prisoner said so help him Jesus God he would not live with heir—he did not state why—I said he should provide a home for her—he said, she might go on the town, and be d—d, she liked.

Cross-examined. Q. Who was conversation with you? A. My husband—he is not here—he was here yesterday, but he was told he would not

be wanted—Mr. Robinson was there—he is in Edinburgh—this took place on the 15th of October, 1836—I did not go to the prisoner's house, but to a public-house—his wife found him there—I was with his wife—she came to my house, and went with me after the prisoner, and found him—I did not know of Mr. Robinson having been the day before to the prisoner—I did not tell the prisoner that the marriage was void, nor did anybody in my presence—my daughter took a ring with her and bit in half—she said, "Take that, villain, and give it to another, if you like"—I instructed my daughter to do and say so—that was all we said then—we did not sit down and all have something to drink—my husband called for a pot of half and half before the prisoner came in—we did not all share it together, to my knowledge—I did not sit down with the prisoner after this—I went to the station-house to get a policeman to take him up, but they would not after his wife had thrown the ring at him—I did not institute this prosecution.

SARAH CANNON . I live at Mrs. Harper's, Clerkenwell-green. I was married on the 6th of January, 1835, to the prisoner at Limehouse—he lived with me till four weeks on Monday last, and then called a broker, and sold all my things, and left me destitute with my child in the streets—I have one child by him.

Cross-examined. Q. When were you married? A. On the 6th of January, 1835—the child is two years and four months old come the 30th of this month—I am twenty-seven years old—I had another child at the time I married, by another person—I had the things my father gave me on my marriage—my father did not persuade the prisoner to have me, but he was always after me—he did not tell me of the circumstance relating to his former wife till I was five months gone in the family way—then he told me she was gone to America, and had married again—the prisoner was never in work—it is through friends I appear here to-day.

GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Two Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-958
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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958. ELIZABETH JAMES was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of March, 1 hearth rug, value 5s.; 1 looking-glass and frame, value 10s.; 1 set of fire-irons, value 4s.; and 1 table cover, value 1s.; the goods of George Chapman.

GEORGE CHAPMAN . I live in Judd's place, Gray's Inn-lane. The prisoner was occasionally with me as servant—I missed these articles on the 8th of March—I had discharged her before then—these things were safe at eleven and gone at half-past twelve o'clock—she was not there, that I am aware of, that day—these are the articles—(looking at them.)

WILLIAM FISH . I am shopman to Mr. Loveday, of Gray's Inn-road, a pawnbroker. I stopped the prisoner with these things, on the 8th of March, between twelve and one o'clock—she offered all of them to pledge.

Prisoner. There was another girl with me.

GUILTY .* Aged 16.— Confined One Year.

(There was another indictment against the prisoner.)

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-959
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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959. JAMES GREEN was indicted for stealing, on the 2d. of March, 1 pair of boots, value 10s., the goods of John Mumford.

FREDERICK CHURCH . I am servant to Mr. John Mumford, who keeps the White Swan public-house, Whitechapel. About four o'clock in the evening of the 2nd of March, I put a pair of boots into the cupboard—the prisoner came in soon after, and asked if I had seen an old shoe throwing

about the tap-room—I said "Yes, I threw it into the cupboard"—I opened the door, and let him look in—the parlour bell rang, and I went away—when I came back he was still looking in—I said, "What are you about so long?"—he said, "Only looking for the old shoe"—the bell rang again, and when came back he was gone, and the boots too—these are them—(looking at them).

SAMUEL TAYLOR . I am a street-keeper. I produce the boots which I got from Jacobs in Petticoat-lane.

ISRAEL JACOBS . I am a general dealer, and go about buying old wardrobes. I met the prisoner—he said, "Will you buy a pair of boots?"—he asked 5s. for these boots, and I gave him 4s. 3d.—I think it was on the 2nd of March.

Prisoner. I went to this house at half-past twelve o'clock—a young man who lodged there asked me, between three and four o'clock, whether I would go into the lane and sell these boots for him, and let him have the money—his name was Richardson—I sold them to this man for 2s. 9d., and took him back the money—the man said they were his own.

FREDERICK CHURCH . We have a man of the name of Richardson lodging there.

SAMUEL TAYLOR . I took the prisoner—he denied all knowledge of the boots.

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-960
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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960. PERCEVAL DEVENISH was indicted for feloniously uttering, disposing of, and putting off a forged order, on the 21st of March, for the payment of 2l. 15s., with intent to defraud Nathan Phillips.

NATHAN PHILLIPS . I am a slop-seller, and live in High-street, Shadwell. On the 21st of March the prisoner came to me with this note—(looking at it)—I did not know him before—I cannot be mistaken in him—when the owners give these notes, the slop-sellers give the holders of them clothes or money sometimes to fit them out—I did not know Mr. Thomas T. Allen, by whom it purports to be signed—we are in the habit of giving money for these notes if we do not know the parties—the captains write them for the owners—the prisoner wanted 2l. 10s. in clothes and 5s. in money—he picked out the clothes bettween seven and eight o'clock, and wanted to take them away—I said I would bring them the next day on board the ship, and see if he belonged to it—he wanted 5s.—I said, "No, I will give you a half-crown, and tomorrow I will give you a half-crown more"—when I came on board the ship.

EMANUEL MOSS . I am a slop-seller, and live in High-street, Shadwell. The prisoner came to my shop the same evening, and brought this note—I refused to cash it, because there was no number of any office on it—it is payable at Mr. Fletcher's office, but no number, or any street, and I would not take it—he said he could neither read nor write—he we nt towards Mr. Phillips's.

JOHN DOWLINO . I am clerk to Henry Fletcher and Sons; they are owners of the ship the United Kingdom— they have an office at Limehouse—Captain Thomas T. Allen is captain of the United Kingdom— I know his writing very well—I should say this note was not his writing—I have frequently seen him write—the prisoner is not in the list of the crew which we have received—we have printed forms, which we give, of our notes, with the address in print—there is no other officer on board that might Sign the captain's name—they might fill it up, but not sign his name—I cannot say whether the vessel sailed after or before the 21st of March.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-961
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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961. HENRY DAY was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of March, 2 waistcoats, value 10s.; and 1 stock, value 1s. 6d.; the goods of James Thomas Hawes.

GEORGE SAVAGE . I am shopman to James Thomas Hawes, of Whitechapel-road, a pawnbroker. About half-past ten o'clock at night, on the 10th of March, I saw the prisoner about my shop—I watched him for as hour or more lurking about—I had occasion to go in—I had not been in five minutes before the lad at the door called me—I missed the two waistcoats and a stock from the rail outside—I ran out, and saw the prisoner running, with the waistcoats under his arm—as I caught him he fell down, and I picked up the waistcoats and him together—he used great violence, and tried to throw me into the mud—these are my master's—(producing them.)

Prisoner. I picked them up.

GEORGE HOGSTON (police-constable K 128.) I took the prisoner—he said, "I took the waistcoats."

GUILTY .* Aged 23.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-962
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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962. JANE HORROX was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of March, 1/4 lb. weight of silk twist, value 5s., the goods of George Clark.

GEORGE CLARK . I live in Whitecross-street. On Saturday night, the 3rd of March, the prisoner came into my shop—I was informed of something—I went and accused her of stealing a ball of twist—she denied it—I desired her to give it up, or I would send for a policeman—she said I might search her; for she had nothing—I sent for an officer, and she laid a ball of twist on the counter—she turned and asked for forgiveness.

HANNAH COLLINGHAM . I searched the prisoner at the station-house, but found nothing on her—she said she had been into a shop in Whitecross-street, and taken two balls of twist, and they did not know that she had taken but one, but she had dropped one in coming along—I went and found this ball of black twist—she said she was in great distress.

BENJAMIN BAKER (police constable G 43.) I was called, and took the prisoner—she stated she took the ball from Mr. Clark's, and just before we got to the station-house she stooped and dropped something down an area—I went and picked up the ball of black twist.

GUILTY. Aged 16.—Recommended to mercy .— Confined Three Days.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-963
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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963. JAMES MOORE was indicted for stealing, on the 2nd of April, 1 handkerchief, value 2s., the goods of James Holyoake, from his person.

JAMES HOLYOAKE . Between seven and eight o'clock, on the 2nd of April, I was in Cheapside, and Cuthbert spoke to me—I put my hand into my pocket, and my handkerchief had been stolen—I had seen it safe two or

three minutes before—this is my handkerchief—(examining one)—it has no mark but I am convinced it is mine.

JAMES CUTHBERT . I am inspector of the watch of Bread-street ward. I was in Cheapside at a quarter before eight o'clock that evening—I saw the prosecutor, and the prisoner put his hand into his pocket, and take out his handkerchief—he crossed the road—I took him, and he threw it down.

Prisoner. It was chucked on my feet, and I picked it up. Witness. No; he ran after he took it out of the prosecutor's pocket—he had tried another pocket just before.

GUILTY .* Aged 24.— Transported for Ten Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-964
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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964. EDWARD WILKINSON was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of March, 1 spoon, value 6s., the goods of John Newberry, his master.

ELIZA NEWBERRY . I am the wife of John Newberry, of Spring-place, Kentish Town, a gold-beater. The prisoner came into my service, to clean boots and shoes, and do what was wanted—on the 5th of March I missed a silver spoon, and charged him with having it—he said he had not—this is it—(looking at it.)

DANIEL FABRAGE (police-sergeant S 13.) I took the prisoner—he said he had not got the spoon; but in going up the kitchen stairs, he said he had taken one—I went back, and he took this spoon from some ashes.

Prisoner. The officer said he would do me all the mischief he could.

GUILTY .* Aged 21.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-965
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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965. JEREMIAH PANNING was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of March, 4 pewter pots, value 7s., the goods of Stephen Balcombe.

STEPHEN BALCOMBE . I keep the Eagle and Wheat Sheaf, Albion-place, Paddington. On the evening of the 12th of March, about half-past nine o'clock, I saw the prisoner walking up Albion-place—I took hold of him, and this pot fell from under his arm, and this other one from his hat—these other two were found under his waistcoat and in his waistband—they are all four mine, and bad been in my house that evening.

Prisoner. I went to the house—there were about twenty men, some drank and some not—there were some with screws—they screwed up two of the pots, and put them under the table—I took them up, and as I was going out there were two more under the rails, add t took them—necessity compelled me to do it.

HENRY WILLIAM TURPIN (police-constable F 39.) I found this pint pot in the waistband of his trowsers, and this under his jacket.

GUILTY . Aged 47.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-966
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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966. JEREMIAH PANNING was again indicted for stealing, on the 12th of March, 1 chisel, value 6d., the goods of James East.

JAMES EAST . I am a carpenter, and live in Little London-street, Paddington, near to the last prosecutor. I lost a chisel on the 12th of March—this is it—(looking at it)—I have known the prisoner for some years—he is a bricklayer's labourer, and was working near my premises.

HENRY WILLIAM TURPIN . I found the chisel in the waistband of the prisoner's at the time I found the pots.

Prisoner. I put it there to give it to the owner in the morning; I found it among some rubbish.

GUILTY . Aged 47— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-967
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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967. GEORGE WOOD and JOHN WRIGHT were indicted for stealing, on the 12th of March, 1 carpet, value 3l., the goods of Eliza Thompson.

FRANCIS BURTON . I live in Mount-terrace, Whitechapel. Eliza Thompson, my niece, is a broker—this carpet was hers on the 12th of March, and was missed off two large chests outside the door.

THOMAS MILLER . I live in John-street, Whitechapel. About one o'clock, on the 12th of March, I was coming from dinner, and saw the two prisoners coming up Court-street with a carpet—they passed it from one to the other—I followed them to a field where they shook it, and took it to Mr. Reynold's shop—this is the carpet—(looking at it.)

JOHN CHUBB . I am foreman to Mr. Reynolds, a pawnbroker, at Mile-end-road. I took in this carpet of the prisoner, Wood, at half-past one o'clock, on the 12th of March—there was no one with him.

FREDERICK PICKERING (police-constable K 87.) I took the prisoners into custody—I found on Wood 11s. 7 1/2 d., and the duplicate of the carpet in his boot—Wright said he knew nothing about it.

Wood's Defence. I bought the carpet nearly a month ago.

Wright's Defence. I met this young man—he said he was going to pledge a carpet, would I go with him—we were gone to have something to drink, and they came and took us.

WOOD— GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Three Months.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-968
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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968. SARAH ALLEN, alias Susan Anderson , was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of March, 1 piece of carpet, value 1s.; 1 pair of pattens, value 6d.; and 1 pair of clogs, value 6d.; the goods of William Winsby.

SUSANNA WINSBY . I am the wife of William Winsby, of Union-street, Middlesex-hospital. On the 14th of March, as I went down stain, I heard some one follow me—I turned, and saw the prisoner—I said, "What have you been doing in my room?"—she said, "I have been to Mrs. Spink"—I said there was no such person, and then she said Mrs. Jones—I said no such person lived there—I took her into the second-pair room, and she dropped a piece of old carpet—I looked at her again, and saw these clogs—I said, "They are mine"—"No," said she, "they are mine"—I asked her if she had any thing else, and then she took my little girl's pattens from her bundle.

Prisoner. This carpet was on the stairs—the clogs and pattens I never saw—I had been up stairs to a person, and knocked at the door, but they were not at home.

GUILTY .— Confined Six Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-969
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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969. JOHN AUSTIN was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of March, 1 pewter pot, value 1s., the goods of Alexander James Gate.

ALEXANDER JAMES GATE . I keep the Black Horse, Tottenham-court-road. About eight o'clock, on the 10th of March, the prisoner in to drink—Mr. Bliss gave me information—I took the prisoner, but this pot was taken from him outside the door.

JOHN BLISS . I was at this public-house, and saw the prisoner take the pot, put it into his hat, and go out—I gave information, he was followed, and the pot taken on him.

Prisoner's Defence. I fell into intoxication, which was the cause of my committing the offence—I have no recollection of taking it.

ALEXANDER JAMES GATE re-examined. He was not drunk.

GUILTY. Aged 43.—Recommended to mercy .— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-970
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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970. JOHN BEAL was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Joseph Lincoln, on the 11th of March, at St. Marylebone, and stealing therein, 9 spoons, value 2l. 14s.; 1 pair of sugar-tongs, value 12s.; 1 necklace, value 1l.; 1 seal, value 1l.; 4 rings, Joe 1l.; 1 brooch, value 8s.; 1 coat, value 1l. 10s.; 1 boa, value 10s.; 1 scarf, value 1l. 10s.; 3 shirts, value 12s.; 20 keys, value 10s.; 20lbs. eight of tea, value 4l. 10s.; 1 cash-box, value 10s.; 2 purses, value 6d.; 10 shillings, and 6 shillings in copper money; his goods and monies.

JOSEPH LINCOLN . I live in New Church-street, Marylebone, and am a grocer. I only rent the two parlours, shop, kitchen, and vault—there is an open passage for all the lodgers—I have no outer door to my apartments—I have a door that opens into the passage—these apartments are my dwelling-house—the prisoner formerly lived in the same house, but had left—I and my wife went out about three o'clock in the afternoon, on Sunday, the 11th of March—I locked the door of the shop, and put the key under the hearth-rug—I locked the door that led into the passage—no one was left in my part of the house—I had also a key of the street-door—it goes with a spring-lock—I fastened it when I went out—as I walked along, I saw the prisoner about 150 yards from my house—I asked him How his wife did—he replied, "I believe, pretty well"—I went to Little Marylebone-street, and then to Paddington-chapel—at seven o'clock I was called, and came home about ten minutes past seven o'clock—I found the policeman there, and the three rooms all in an uproar, strewed with papers and tea, and every place ransacked—when I left I had nine spoons—they were worth 2l.; and sugar-tongs, 20lbs. of tea, and other things, to the value of 10l. 3s. 7d.—I lost a cash-box and canvas bag—I have since seen the cash-box and bag—they are mine—that is all I have seen.

REBECCA LINCOLN . I am the prosecutor's wife. I accompanied my husband—when I came home I saw the drawers all open—I missed a necklace, two plain gold rings—a gold keeper, a gold brooch, a fur boa, a silk scarf, a bag, and other things, to the value of 7l.—I have not seen any of them since.

JOHN WICKHAM DAW . I live on the second floor of this house. I remember on that Sunday afternoon a knock at the door—there was a man there with magazines and the prisoner—I bought one magazine of the man, and he went away—Mr. Beal asked me if anybody had been there for him that morning—I said, "No"—he told me to go to ask Mrs. Lincoln—I tapped at the door, and she said, "No."

JOHN GEORGE PRATT . I am a policeman. I received information from some children, and I went, about seven o'clock, to the prosecutor's house—the place was all in confusion—the drawers were open—some persons had been in the place before I got there—the doors did not appear to have been forced—I went into the bed-room, and the things were all strewed about, and on the table I found this chisel—the tea was strewed about in the shop, and the acidulated drops and other things—I went to the prisoner's house, No. 9, Little Carlisle-street, about nine o'clock—no one was

at home—I saw the prisoner coming along the street about half past nine o'clock—his door was open—I knew him by the description—when he got in, I knocked at the door—he came—I asked if his name was Beal—he said, "No"—I told him whether his name was Beal or not, he must go with me—I wanted him—he made no answer, but went with me—as I was taking him to the station-house, I asked him if he knew Mr. Lincoln—he said he did—I asked if he had seen him that day—he said he had.

Prisoner. Instead of saying my name was not Beal, I said "Why." Witness. He said distinctly, "No."

JOSEPH NIFTON (police-constable D 118.) The prisoner was brought to the station-house—I took charge of him—he had been there between five and ten minutes, and said he wanted to go to the water-closet—I said before he went I would search him—I found four half-crowns and 6d., sixteen duplicates, this screw-driver, a quantity of farthings, and halfpence, a tobacco-box, and in this canvas bag ten halfpence and two penny pieces—the prosecutor identified the bag—the prisoner went to the water-closet—I watched him—he was there ten minutes—he came out again and stood with me a few minutes, and then said he wanted to go again—I allowed him to do so—he was there three or four minutes, and as he was leaving I heard some money drop—I examined the water-closet, and found two farthings and some tea, after I had searched him.

REBECCA LINCOLN re-examined. I made this bag, and it was in the cash-box when I left home that day—I had about a shilling's worth of farthings—they were gone—they were in the apartments, not in the cash-box.

JOHN RYAN . I am a police-sergeant. I was at the station-house when the prisoner was brought there—I went to the water-closet, and found two farthings, and some tea—a woman came afterwards and asked if a person of the name of Beal was there—she said she was his wife—we said "Yes"—she had these keys in her hand—I asked what they were—she said, one was of the door where she lived, No. 9, Carlisle-street—I went there and the key did not fit, and then I tried the room door and this key did not fit—I then went to Lincoln's, and this one key fitted the outer door, and the other fitted the parlour door.

THOMAS HENRY THOMPSON . I am a police-sergeant. I went to the prisoner's lodgings and found this cash-box under the bed, at No. 9, Carlisle-street, also a dark lantern.

MRs. LINCOLN re-examined. This is my husband's cash-box.

Prisoner's Defence. I left my wife in the morning at half-past eight o'clock, and never saw her again till she came to the station-house—she had the keys in her possession all the day, and brought them to the station-house—they do belong to the lodgings I occupy—the back parlour door and the front door—I saw Mr. Lincoln in the afternoon, and was not at home again till the officer took me about nine o'clock—the four half-crowns found on me I have had above a week—when I went home in the evening, I found the bag on the table.

GUILTY . Aged 40.— Transported for Ten Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-971
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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971. JOHN GOODCHILD and ISAAC GOODCHILD were indicted for stealing, on the 15th of March, 1 leaden sash weight, value 2s., the goods of Mary Hannah Fearn and another.

THOMAS WESTLEY . I am foreman to Mary Hannah Fearn and another, of Uxbridge. They had a leaden sash weight—I saw it safe on the 8th of March, in a shed—I think I missed it on the 14th—this is it—(looking at it)—I had it in my hand a few days before.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Have you any mark on it? A. No, only the string being cut as it is—there were several stolen—it is a piece of patent line—it is a common thing—I have no mark on the lead—I did not see it from the 9th till the 13th.

WILLIAM SERVANT . I am a police-sergeant. I took the prisoner John, on the 14th, at Smith's beer-shop, which adjoins a marine-store shop—he had the weight in his pocket—Isaac was at home, and his brother told me that he gave it him—I went and took Isaac.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-972
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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972. JANE BOWDEN and CATHERINE M'BRIDE were indicted for stealing, on the 7th of March, 2 half-crowns, and 10 shillings, the monies, of Thomas Brown, from his person.

THOMAS BROWN . I live in James-street, Kensington, and am a saddler, on the night of the 7th of March I went to the Sell public-house, near Tothill-street, with Jane Bowden—I was half drunk—I went to sleep—I about say what time it was—I was awoke, and missed my money—I had about 15s.—there were two half-crown pieces, and the rest were shillings.

WILLIAM WATERMAN . I was at the public-house, in New Tothill-street, that night—I saw the prosecutor with Bowden—in a quarter of an hour M'Bride came and spoke to Bowden—she took the newspaper, and stood before the prosecutor, and I saw Bowden take out the prosecutor's hand out of his pocket, and put her hand in three times, one time I saw a half-crown and when she got it out the third time she put it into her left breast, turned to M'Bride, and said, "Come on, it is all right, I have got it"—she was going out—I stopped her, and said, "It is not all right"—I sent for the policeman—M'Bride turned and said, "It serves you right; I told you How it would be"—Bowden resisted as much as she could, and tried to bite me—the officer came, and I told him to look into her bosom and he would find some money.

JAMES DALTON (police-constable B 63.) I took Bowden, and found five shillings in her breast—she was very resolute, and tried to bite—I took her to the station, and found five shillings more, and Waterman found the remainder—M'Bride was taken afterwards—she got away at the time.

Bowden's Defence. I can assure you I had got the money with a petition for my husband, who was lying ill in the hospital, and since that he is dead—the petition was taken from me at the Office.

BOWDEN— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined One Year.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-973
VerdictsGuilty > with recommendation; Not Guilty > unknown

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973. STEPHEN AYLIFFE was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of March, 361bs. weight of coals, value 6d.; and 4 1/2 lbs. weight of potatoes, value 1 1/2 d.; the goods of Samuel Joynson, his master: and ANN AYLIFFE , for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing them to have been stolen.

SAMUEL JOYNSON . Stephen Ayliffe worked for me—there is a fence between his yard and mine—Ann Ayliffe is his wife—she was formerly a servant of mine—I have lately missed potatoes and coals—I desired the Policeman to look out—he brought Stephen to me, and the constable produced

some coals to me in a sack—I could not swear to them—I believe they were mine—the potatoes were at the bottom, under the coals—they appeared the same as were in my cellar—I believe they were mine, but cannot swear to either.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. I suppose one potato is mighty like another, is not it? A. Yes—they were at some distance from the coals in the cellar—they were a kidney potato.

THOMAS LYNE (police-sergeant V 5.) I received information from Moore that the prisoner was in the habit of robbing his master in the morning, between five and six o'clock, of potatoes and coals—I went with the officer to watch him—a few minutes before six o'clock, on the 7th of March, I saw him passing from his master's yard to a paling which separates his yard from his master's—he got up some steps, and conveyed a sack full of something to his premises—I went and found the sacks inside the threshold of the prisoner's door, and his wife standing by—I said, "Is that the way you rob your master?"—he said the coals were left for him—I took him—the sack contained coals and potatoes.

Cross-examined. Q. You will swear to the sack that the prisoner had I suppose? A. Yes.

ROBERT MOORE (police-constable V 85.) I received information—on the 6th of March I saw this sack put over the fence, by the male prisoner, from the prosecutor's yard—I saw him bring it out of the prosecutor's house—I was a stable—I went over the fence, and took the sack and the female prisoner—I examined the sack at the station-house, and two pieces of coal that I had marked the night before, at half-past eleven o'clock, in the cellar, were in the sack.

Cross-examined. Q. What mark had you put on them? A. Here is the mark—(showing it.)

(The prisoner Stephen Ayliffe received a good character.)

STEPHEN AYLIFFE— GUILTY. Aged 40.—Recommended to mercy .

Confined Three Months.


Fifth Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-974
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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974. JOHN M'CARTHY was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of March, 90 yards of linen cloth, called hessian, value 3l., the goods of Abraham Fountain.

ABRAHAM FOUNTAIN . I live at Ealing, and keep a linen-draper's shop. This cloth was outside my shop on the 29th of March—I missed it about twenty minutes past seven o'clock, when I was called out of my parlour—I have frequently seen the prisoner—he was horse-keeper at a house opposite—about eight o'clock the same evening we went and found it in a hay-loft which the prisoner has the charge of—I saw the prisoner before I searched, sitting in the tap-room—the officer spoke to him, and he went into the yard, and began shutting the gates—he was with me when I went into the loft—this is the cloth.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Have you a mark on it? A. Yes—there are ninety yards—the stable is rented by Mr. M'Intosh the contractor.

ANN BETT . I live with Mr. Fountain. I saw the prisoner examining

the goods about half-past five o'clock—he then went away, and I missed them about twenty minutes past seven o'clock.

Cross-examined. Q. Were these outside the door? A. Yes—I only know the prisoner by seeing him about.

THOMAS YATES . I keep a grocer's shop next door to Mr. Fountain, found the corner. I saw the prisoner that night standing in the road, four or five yards from the prosecutor's—he came into our shop, and had some bacon and eggs—he came again in five minutes, and had two more eggs.

JOHN PASCOE (police-sergeant T 19.) About half-past seven o'clock, on the 29th, I received information from Mr. Fountain—I went and questioned the prisoner if he had been over to that shop, and from that I went and searched the loft, and found the property—he appeared very much agitated.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you know these premises? A. Yes—the door was shut, but not locked—there are a great many persons in Mr. M'Intosh's employ—many of them have access to the stable.

WILLIAM TAYLOR (police-constable T 36.) I had charge of the prisoner—as soon as the sergeant got into the loft, the prisoner tried to make his escape, to get to the loft door, to get out—I was inside the loft.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-975
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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975. HENRY WHEELER was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Joseph Mills, on the 10th of March, at St. Leonard, Shoreditch, and stealing therein, 3 blankets, Value 1l. 6s., his goods; and that the prisoner had been before convicted of felony.

JOSEPH MILLS . I am a journeyman ironfounder, and live at No. 18, in Windsor-street, City-road, in the parish of St. Leonard, Shoreditch; it is my dwelling-house. About eight o'clock, on the 10th of March, I went into the parlour—I saw the prisoner standing against the table, the door was open—he got on the table and jumped out of the window the moment he saw me—I jumped out and followed him—I did not lose sight of him for a moment—he had got about thirty yards—when I got up to him he said, "I am innocent"—I had not charged him with any thing—I brought him back to my house and gave him into custody—my wife was in the room before I went in, and had put the child to bed ten minutes before—I found thee articles stated packed up in a bundle, ready to carry away—my door was fastened with a spring lock.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. He was not very long before he got out? A. No—I had a candle in my hand, which made me observe him better—he had a cord jacket, fustian trowsers, and a round cap—he had the same on when I caught him—when he was running I said, "Holloa, I want you"—I did not tell him what for—he was walking away from me when I came to him.

GEORGE BETLY (police-constable N 217.) I took the prisoner—he had a blue cloth cap on.

GEORGE SAYER (police-constable N 34.) I know the prosecutor's house—I was there about ten minutes before eight o'clock, and examined every shutter in the street, and every window was fast, except No. 10.—I searched the prisoner, and found this small whistle in his pocket—he said he was a cabinet-maker, and made this whistle.

HENRY ALLEN (police-sergeant N 21.) I got this certificate of the

prisoner's former conviction from Mr. Clark's office—(read)—I was a witness on that indictment—he is the same person.

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Transported for Fifteen Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-976
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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976. CHARLES WILLIAM LOVE was indicted for bigamy.

MR. JONES conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN ASHFORD . I had a sister of the name of Ann Mary Ashford—I was present when the prisoner was married to her, about fifteen months ago, or I should say it was longer than that—she died in childbirth fourteen months back, I should think.

Prisoner. Q. Was your sister named Ann Mary Ashford? A. Yes—I had a sister, Ann Maria—I cannot say that you ever ill-used my sister—I never knew it—you lived next door to me.

MR. JONES. Q. Was your sister's name Ann Mary Ashford? A. I cannot tell—I was not present when she was christened—I never heard her called Ann Mary—they called her Ann.

JOHN WILLIAM HARRINGTON . I had a sister of the name of Mary Ann Warr—I was a step-brother of the prisoner—I was at Stepney in 1817, when he was married to Mary Ann Warr—I have seen his wife within a month at the police-office—Mary Ann Warr and the prisoner lived together after they were married, for about twelve years, till they were parted, as far as I know.

Prisoner. Q. Did you ever hear of my ill-treating her? A. No—I believe she left you—I cannot speak about your fetching her back—I know you lived alone for a length of time—I was put into a madhouse, but I have been out twelve months.

ITHJEL PRICE . I am parish-clerk of St. Duns tan's, Stepney. I produce the register of marriages in 1817—I find a marriage between Charles Love and Mary Ann Warr, on the 13th of August, 1817.

ELIZABETH ASHFORD . I am the wife of John Ashford. I was present when the prisoner was married to Ann Mary Ashford, on the 1st of February, 1836, at St. John's, Hackney—she has since died.

WILLIAM JACKSON . I am parish-clerk of St. John's, Hackney. I produce the register of marriages—I find a marriage entered on the 1st of February, 1836, between Charles Love and Ann Mary Ashford—I was present.

GEORGE GREEN . I apprehended the prisoner at Bethnal-green work-house—I told him the charge—he said, "I cannot deny it."

ELIZABETH ASHFORD re-examined. When the prisoner married my sister she was single—she had formerly lived with me—she was a brushmaker—they lived together for ten weeks before she was confined and died.

(The prisoner, in a written defence, stated that his first wife had deserted him, and cohabited with another person, and that she had consented to his marrying again.)

GUILTY . Aged 45.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-977
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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977. CHARLES WILLIAM LOVE was again indicted for bigamy.

JOHN WILLIAM HARRINGTON . I was present at Stepney church when the prisoner was married to Mary Ann Warr—I cannot speak to the month—it may be twenty-one or twenty-two years ago—she lived with him after that—I saw her at Worship-street office when the prisoner was there—they were married at Stepney church.

ITHIEL PRICE . I produce the register of marriages from Stepney—on the 13th of August, 1817, Charles Love was married to Mary Ann Warr—was present, and made the entry.

ELIZABETH MERCER . In the beginning of 1832 the prisoner paid his addresses to me—he married me at St. John's, Hackney, on the 1st of May—I lived with him twelve months and then left him, as I found he and a wife—I should have left him before, but I could not get employ sooner—I was a weaveress, and had no money.

Prisoner. Q. Do you not recollect my telling you that I had a wife? A. There was something passed, but I thought it was a joke—you did not me to go and see her—you lived with me while the banns were up for fortnight—I was afraid of losing the bit of home I had—I had been a window for ten years—I was not in the poor-house—I was going in—you did not wrong me of any thing.

JOHN WILLIAM FURBEY . I was present at the marriage of the prisoner with Elizabeth Mercer, on the 1st of May, 1832.

WILLIAM JACKSON . I am clerk of St. John's, Hackney. I produce he register of marriages for 1832—I find, on the 1st of May Charles Love was married to Elizabeth Mercer.

GUILTY. Aged 45.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury ,

Confined Three Months more.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-978
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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978. CATHERINE NOWLAND was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of March, 5 1/4; lbs. weight of bacon, value 3s., the goods of William Gunston.

CRANLEY BEETNELL . I am servant to William Gunston, a cheesemonger, of Exmouth-street. I saw the prisoner come into the shop on the 10th of March, at half-past nine o'clock—she was in the act of taking a piece of bacon, but Mrs. Gunston saw her, and she put it down—she came again, took the bacon, and was going away with it, and I took her to the station—she was intoxicated.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 51.— Confined Three Days.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-979
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation; Guilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment; Imprisonment

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979. JOSEPH KELLY, WILLIAM HARRIS , and GEORGE CLARKSON were indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Richard Sole West, on the 10th of March, at St. Luke, and stealing therein 12 penknives, value 6s., his goods.

GEORGE CLARK . I am a linen-draper. Mr. West is a cutler, and lives in Banner-street, St. Luke's—about 10 o'clock in the morning, on the 10th of march, I was passing and saw Kelly and Harris standing close to the window I removed Harris from the window, and saw it was perfect there—I then moved Kelly, and saw a hole broken in the corner of the glass, and a board inside which had had knives on was cleared—I said, "What have you been about?"—he said, "Nothing"—I took him into the shop—Mr. West, jun., came out of the room into the shop, and Kelly took out eight knives and said Harris had given them to him—Harris ran away when I took Kelly—I did not see Clarkson there.

FRANCIS WEST . I am the son of Richard Sole West. This is his dwelling-house—it is in the parish of St. Luke's—Clark brought Kelly in, and he produced the knives out of his pocket, which were my father's—we lost about a dozen—this glass had been cracked about an hour before, but had

not fallen out—it had been cut out by some sharp instrument—it was the out of the putty.

WILLIAM BARNES (police-constable G 35.) I took Kelly and the eight knives.

JAMES BRANNAN (police-constable G 20.) I received information, and went to Peter's-lane, Cow-cross—I saw Clarkson standing at the end, and he ran up New-court—he went into a house on the second floor—I seized him and got him down—I found a knife on him and a piece of wire with a hook at each end—the knife was identified by the prosecutor—I asked Clarkson where he got it—he said, "I bought it"—I said, "Where?"—he then said he saw a bone picker throw it down, and he picked it up—he then said he had been lucky enough to escape five indictments but now I had nailed him on the ready—I was going away and saw Harris going towards Smithfield, and took him—his hand was cut and bloody—he said it was done by opening oysters.

FRANCIS WEST re-examined. This is my father's knife—I cannot say it has not been sold, but believe it has not.

Harris. I did not say it was done with opening oysters.

Clarkson. I did not tell the officer what he says. Witness. Yes, he did—he said he was nailed on the ready this time—it was from a discription I got that I took Clarkson, and seeing him run away to No. 13, I was and took him there.

(The prisoner Kelly received a good character.)

KELLY— GUILTY. Aged 13.—Recommended to mercy .— Confined Three Months.

HARRIS— GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Six Months.


OLD COURT. Thursday, April 5th, 1838.

Second Jury, before Lord Chief Baron Abinger.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-980
VerdictsGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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980. JOHN LATHAM was indicted for unlawfully, maliciously, all feloniously assaulting David Cooper, on the 9th of March, at Hillingdon and unlawfully, &c, cutting and wounding him upon his left leg and left thigh, with intent to maim and disable him, or to do him some grievous bodily harm; and ANN CLEMENTS was indicted as accessory after the fact.

MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

DAVID COOPER , I am a sergeant of the police establishment at Uxbridge, Middlesex. On the evening of Friday, the 9th of March, I was on duty there—I had occasion to see one Richard Pearce about a fortnight before—he is not at present in custody—I had seen his stable open about one o'clock in the morning, and thinking it my duty to see if anybody was in it I went in, and saw Pearce lying with a prostitute, both asleep—I awoke them up, and informed him that his door was open—I knew him to be a married man with a family, and disturbed him—on Friday evening, the 9th of March I went to the Rockingham-road—there is a beer-shop there—fortman, a policeman, was with me that night—I saw the prisoner Latham knocking at the window of the beer-shop, about half-past nine o'clock at night—there were several persons near the front of the shop—some of them were drunk and making a noise—I did not interfere with them while they stood there

—I said nothing to either of them—I placed myself about ten yards from the beer-shop, thinking that, seeing me, they would move away—I had not been there above ten minutes before Pearce came up to me, and began to abuse me—Latham was within hearing—Pearce said, "D—n you, what business had you in my stable the other night?"—I said, "My good fellow, I do not want to have any thing to say to you," and immediately left him—I was proceeding towards the station—Fortnum went away with me—as we were going along, we were followed by Pearce and Latham—Pearce was on before Latham two or three yards—Pearce called out, "You b—y police we will get you out of this town; we will make this town too hot for you; we will do your business," and such expressions as those—I cannot say whether Latham used any expressions, for I walked on quickly to get away from them—I arrived at the gate of the station-house before any thing was done—as I was going in at the gate, Pearce put himself into a righting attitude, and again used the expressions I have named—he was not more than six or seven feet from me—he was within reach of me, if he had struck me—(Latham was close behind him—close to him—he did not say any thing)—I found it necessary, as the peace was broken, to lake Pearce into custody—there were fifty or sixty persons collected together in a mob—they had been followed by all the persons who were at the beer-shop, and the mob collected as they came along—I took Pearce by the collar, to take him into the station-house, and immediately Latham hung himself right round Pearce, as I suppose, for the purpose of rescuing him from me—we gate a sudden pull, and got them both inside the gate—they had both been drinking pretty freely, and were labouring under the effects of drink—I got them both into the station-house, and Fortnum shut the gate—the door of the station-house is not more than two or three yards from the gate—it is a small room we have for the purpose of taking the charges—I succeeded in getting Pearce and Latham into the charge-room—we have a strong-room eight or ten yards from the charge-room—Fortnum left after getting them into the charge-room—they were both in liquor, and clinging to each other—when I got them into the room, they both fell down on the floor, and while there I and my wife kept them down as well as we could, while Fortnum went to open the door of the strong-room—while I was endeavouring to keep them down, Latham got himself round so as to get on one leg—he pat his arm round, and took something from his pocket—there was a strong light in the room, a fire and a candle—I saw something in his hand which appeared to me to be a table-knife—he made several thrusts at me—here is the great coat I had on—(producing it)—here are seven stabs in the coat in the part which covers my thigh and leg—there is one stab in the arm—I felt the knife go into my leg—I called out, "Oh, the villain has stabbed me"—Pearce, who laid down in one part of the station-house, hearing me say that, called out, "That is right, give it the b——r," quite load.

Q. Did you feel that you had received more than one wound at the time pearce called? A. No—the particular wound I felt was of a particular description—it went nearly through the calf of my leg—I have reason to recollect the moment I received it—I felt the knife enter the calf of my leg—after receiving this wound, Latham got himself up on his legs, in the charge-room—I stepped back off the step, and he made another plunge at me—I drew my staff out, and struck him on the side of his head—I got out into the yard, and he followed me, making thrusts at me as he followed

—I discovered I had two wounds—I hardly know How many stabs I had before I used my staff—he followed, and thrust at me—I struck him again with my staff, in the yard, and at that moment the station-house yard gate was burst open, and a mob of persons entered—the first person I saw was the female prisoner, Clements—at the time the gate was being opened my leg was bleeding—I felt the blood flowing from me—it was pouring over my boat—at that time, I should think, there were two hundred persons collected round the station-house—fifteen or twenty accompanied Clements, as many as could crowd in at the gate—on her coming in, she was close to me and Latham, as we were close to the gate—I will not say that Clements could see the state of my leg—as she entered I and Latham were fighting—he was stabbing at me at the time, and I was keeping him off—she saw us fighting, and clapped her hands, and called out, "Give it him, give it the b——r"—she turned round to the others, and said, "Get out your knives we will give it to the b——r," and such like expressions—the mob got both prisoners out of the yard—they caught hold of them, and pulled them out of the gate—Pearce had got out of the house then—he had got into a cornet, and was still calling out to Latham to give it to me, but did not join in it himself—he was standing up in a corner, not above two yards from me and Latham—I had got two men taking their rest, before going on duty, and Fortnum had gone to call them, believing they would make an attack on a—a great number of the windows of the station-house were broken, and we heard the stones fly up at the windows, at least we heard the windows crack—I then went, and saw my three men come down stairs—the prisoners at that time, were gone—I suggested that we should go and take them—up to the time, I used my staff, to protect myself, I had never spoken it Latham, nor put a hand on him—I became exhausted from the wound—we had left our cutlasses exposed, in the little room, near the gate—I proposed to go back and secure the cutlasses; and on going back, the gate was again broken open; and the female prisoner kept calling out, "Here they come—Get out your knives, my boys, let us give it to the b—n—I bad just pushed down the catch of the gate—the latch was broken of by their bursting it in.

COURT. Q. What happened when the woman called out what you have said? A. I was exhausted then—I found I had a stab in the calf of my left leg, and one just in the inside of my left thigh—the wound is the thigh was about six inches above the knee—the wound on the calf of the leg appeared a very bad one—the other one did not enter my flesh very far, and that is not a very bad wound—it appeared to be done with a sharp instrument—the one in the leg appeared to have been cut two ways as if when the knife got in it had turned round—I had two wounds—here is the part of my coat which came directly over my leg, where the lower wound is—here are seven holes altogether, and there is a cut in the right arm of my coat—that is included in the seven.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Who was present when you received the first stab? A. My wife was with me in the room, holding Latham and Pearce down—I believe Fortnum was near the door, having just returned from unlocking the strong room—the woman might have seen Latham's head bleeding—I will not venture to swear she did not see it—it was a bright moon-light night, and there was a large fire in the station-house, and a candle—I had never spoken to Latham in my life before—he had a cap, which Fortnum has got—Latham was taken on

the spot, very soon after—Pearce had got away—my wife is here—I was in the Metropolitan police about six years ago—I retired from that, and went into the country with an insane lady, and when I returned, I was recommended to this place—I resigned from the police of my own accord.

GEORGE WILLIAM FORTNUM . I am one of the police-constables of Uxbridge. On the evening of Friday, the 9th of March, I was with Cooper in Rockingham-place, about half-past nine o'clock—there is a beer-shop nearly opposite to where we were—I observed a vast crowd around the beer-shop—the prisoner Latham was much enraged, holding his fist up, wishing somebody to come out, I believe, whom he had been quarrelling with—I believe the persons were in liquor—I did not interfere with them, nor did cooper—they made use of bad language, and called us b—y police and b—y half-starved looking b—s—Pearce used bad language, and said, "B—y police"—neither I nor Cooper took any notice of him—we walked on towards the station-house, followed by a number of persons—Pearce was foremost—I did not see Latham follow, but he hung on Pearce when he was collared—Pearce used language respecting being caught in the barn—I saw Cooper collar Pearce, and Latham hung on him—I aid not see Pearce do any thing to Cooper before Cooper took hold of him—when I got to the station-house, Cooper endeavoured to pull Pearce in, and Latham hung on him—we succeeded in getting them both into the yard, and shut the gate—we got them into the charge-room—there was a great struggle between Pearce and Sergeant Cooper and Latham—Pearce was on the ground, flat on his face, and Latham on the top of him—there is a strong-room near the spot—I went to open it, by the desire of my sergeant to get the prisoners in—after I returned from the strong-room I was Latham on one knee, making two distinct stabs as it were at Cooper, who said, "I am stabbed; run and get the men up"—I did not hear what passed from Pearce when the sergeant said, "I am stabbed"—but I heard Latham, when he stabbed him, say, "Take that, you b—r"—I went for the policemen, who were resting, to take their turn at twelve o'clock at night—Latham and Pearce had got away, when I returned from calling the men, and I found the gate of the station-house yard had been burst open—I did not see the female prisoner till she was brought in in custody—I did not hear what passed with her—while Latham was in the charge-room, after hearing a cry that the man was stabbed, I saw something shine in Latham's hand—I cannot say what it was.

JAMES DARVILL . I am constable of Uxbridge. I was in the town on this Friday evening, about half-past nine o'clock, and saw a disturbance at the station-house—I went towards it, and found about a hundred or more persons about the gate—I saw the female prisoner there—she was against Pearce and several more, trying to burst the gate open—five or six of them were rushing against it at once—I pushed her away—she went into the road—I pushed Pearce from the gate, and I saw her throw some stones three times—I heard her say, "I hope the b—r is dead"—I saw Pearce and Latham both—Latham was a little on the other, side—Pearce was with her—Latham was seven or eight yards from the other two—I did not hear Latham say any thing at that time—it might be a quarter of an hour after—I did not come there till after they had got out of the station-house.

Cross-examined. Q. When you saw Latham, was he bleeding? A. Yes, a great deal from the head.

GEORGE AUSTIN . I am a baker living at Uxbridge. I was in the station-house about half-past nine o'clock on Friday evening, the 9th of

March—I observed a congregation of people, and the prisoners in remarkable manner among them—by their manner of acting, they evinced themselves as the chief conductors of a riot—the woman was urging on a number of people to do mischief, and the male prisoner was acted upon by her in an especial manner—I did not hear her say any thing, because I am deaf, but I saw enough to convince me she was the ringleader of the disturbance—I imagine there were a hundred people there—I did not observe any thing in Latham's hand, but I saw it in an attitude which made me conclude there was something in it—he was in the attitude of striking a blow at some one, unperceived by me behind the gate—I heard him say, "God strike me b—y dead, I will stab him"—I afterwards went to the station-house—this was opposite the station-house—I went for Mr. Patten, the surgeon.

Cross-examined. Q. Are you any thing besides a baker? A. I am a baker by profession—I include the business of corn-dealer—a baker is my ostensible business—I have no extra business—I do not hold forth my where—at the time I speak of, Latham was bleeding—I did not notice whether it was a great deal—I remarked a disfiguration on his head.

MARY GRENVILLE . I am the wife of Joseph Grenville, a brazier, living at Uxbridge. I was near the station-house on Friday night, the 9th of March—I saw the female prisoner in the street, by the station-house, about three yards from the gate—she and two more were jumping at the gate to break it open—I saw the male prisoner come out at the gate—Clements patted him on the back, and another, but I did not observe the other—she said, "You b—r, I have pluck enough to release the whole of you"—she tucked up the sleeves of her gown, and challenged to fight anybody.

Cross-examined. Q. What are you? A. The wife of John Grenvile—it was when they came out that she patted Latham on the back.

SOPHIA GROOM . I am the wife of Edward Groom, of Uxbridge. On this Friday night I was disturbed, by a noise at the station-house—I got up, went towards the place, and saw Latham among other persons there—I observed where he stood, and in the course of the evening I found a knife about half a yard from where he was standing—I gave it to my husband—Murray called at my house the next morning, and I delivered the knife to him.

CHARLES JAMES MURRAY . I am a constable of Uxbridge. I produce knife which I received from Mrs. Groom on Saturday morning, the 10th of March—I observed blood on the handle of it.

Cross-examined. Q. None on the blade? A. None—I have kept it ever since—I saw Latham standing not far from the gate—he told me he had been knocked or chopped down—he was bleeding very much—I left him there—I then went to the station-house, and understood the policeman had been stabbed—I went back and found Latham standing in the same place as I had left him—he appeared very weak from the loss of blood.

CHARLES PATTEN . I am a surgeon, and live at Uxbridge. On Friday evening, the 9th of March, I was called in to see sergeant Cooper—I went to the station-house—he had received a deep punctured wound in the fleshy part of the left leg, and a very slight wound in the thigh of the same side—the wound in the leg was a very deep wound, and appeared to be made in two directions—a triangular wound—it was extremely dangerous, attended with a great deal of haemorrhage—the knife produced is precisely the kind of instrument that would have inflicted the wound—it appears like a half-worn-out oyster knife.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you examine Latham? A. I did—I dressed wound, and had part of the hair shaved away to apply a plaster to it.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Was it such a wound as a man might have inflicted with a constable's staff? A. Very likely.

(John Stevens, a shoemaker, of Uxbridge, and Mary Brown, of Uxbridge, gave the prisoner Latham a good character.)

LATHAM— GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Fifteen Years.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-981
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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981. DENNIS RAGAN was indicted for a rape.


Fourth Jury before Lord Chief Baron Abinger.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-982
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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982. WILLIAM HARDWICK was indicted for unlawfully, maliously, and feloniously assaulting Peter Thirion, on the 24th of February, and stabbing and wounding him on his neck, with intent to maim and disable him.—2nd COUNT, with intent to do him some grievous bodily harm.

MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

PETER THIRION . I live at No. 9, Ray-street, Clerkenwell, and am a skin-dresser. The prisoner had been in my employ about eighteen months—I had advanced him some money in December last—that was the first me—I advanced him more again in February—he worked by the piece—owed me some money—he owes me 10s. now—on Saturday, the 24th of February, I paid my men as usual—one of the shopmen who says the men was to deduct what the prisoner owed me—about half-past seven o'clock that evening I was sitting in my parlour, and heard the prisoner ask if his master was in—I went to the door immediately, and said, What do you want, Bill?"—his reply was, "You have sent me home without money"—my reply was, I could not make more of him than I did with the rest of the shopmen—he directly after tried to catch hold of me—was at a distance from the half door, and he was outside it, leaping over—he tried to catch hold of me, with his left hand, by my coat, and he drew a knife from his coat pocket, where he had it inside, and got it ready will give me a stab—I rushed from him, and called out, "O my God"—I observed him put his hand inside his coat, and saw a handle as if it was a knife—he had caught hold of my coat very slightly, but I got from him, exclaiming, "My God, I am going," and ran away—I heard the half door burst open—he caught me, and as I was opening the shop door he stabbed me—I do not recollect any thing further for a few minutes till the witness Finnegan took hold of me—I was not aware that I had been stabbed for two or three minutes—I did not feel any blow at the time—I fainted away, and when I recovered I saw Finnegan holding the prisoner round the waist,—I sung out, "Martin, take care, he has got a knife in his hand"—I found I had been stabbed—I knew I had had a blow on my neck, but whether with the blade or handle of the knife I could not tell at the moment—I sent for a surgeon—I afterwards saw a knife which was found, and it is the very knife the prisoner drew out of his pocket—I know it by the handle—he used it in his employ—I had seen it often before—I was laid up for six or sever days—I had more clothes on than when I am at work—I had a coat, waistcoat, shirt, and flannel shirt on—I have got the coat here which I wore—there are two cuts in the back and one in the collar.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. The poor man, I believe, the week before had buried one of his children? A. I understand so—I do not

know whether he has three remaining—I cannot tell whether he was in a state of great distress—he has always had good employ from me—we were slack a few months back—he can earn from thirty to forty shillings a week, and I pay him beforehand—I did not on this occasion threaten to kick him out of the house, nor attempt to kick him.

MARY EADES . I am housekeeper to the prosecutor. On Saturday, the 24th of February, I was at home—the prisoner came and asked if his master was within, and stated that he had a child dead, and a girl lying it—I heard that, and I heard the prosecutor afterwards exclaim, "Oh, my God, I am going"—I went out into the passage, and saw the prisoner holding the prosecutor with one hand, and the other hand at the back of his neck, and in a faint voice the prosecutor said, "He has a knife in his hand"—after it was all over I picked a knife up in the passage, and gave it to a policeman of the E division—I saw the place where the prisoner was standing—I did not see any thing in his hand—I was very much alarmed—I picked up the knife close to where I saw him holding the prosecutor.

JAMES ERANNAN . I am a policeman. I received the knife from Eade—the prosecutor's clothes were marked with blood, and cut.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you take the prisoner into custody? A. Yes on the 15th of last March—I did not find him at home—I tool him a No. 1, Black Swan-court, Golden-lane—he does not live there—I produce the knife.

MART EADES re-examined. The police were sent for after it happened and declined to take the prisoner, because they had not seen the assault—they were very abusive, indeed—that is the knife I gave to the policeman.

STEPHEN JOHN PEACH PARKER . I am a surgeon. I was called in to attend the prosecutor on the evening of the 24th of February, and found on the back of his neck a wound about half an inch long, directly over the spinal bone, and three-fourths of an inch deep—it must have been inflicted with some degree of violence—there was about three tea-spoonfuls of blood from it—he was under my care about seven days—such a knife as that produced would inflict that injury—the spinal bone would present considerable resistance to a blow of this kind.

Cross-examined. Q. You found only one wound? A. Only one.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY. Aged 29.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury .— Confined Two Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-983
VerdictsGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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983. HENRY PAINE and JOHN STONE were indicted for feloniously breaking, and entering the dwelling-house of George Harding, and stealing 1 tea caddy, value 32s.; 1 sugar basin, value 8s.; 1 decanter stopper, value 6d.; and 3 printed books, value 3l.; his goods: 1 Printed book, value 12s., the goods of Harriet Harding: and MARY HILL for feloniously receiving the said tea caddy and sugar bason; well-knowing then to have been stolen.

HARRIET HARDING . I am the daughter of George Harding, and live with him. On Thursday evening, the 2nd of March, I left the parlour at a quarter past six o'clock—on returning, at a quarter to seven o'clock, I found half the blind open, and the articles in question stolen from the opposite side of the room—I found a decanter taken out of the cupboard, and placed on a chair; a tea-caddy, a glass sugar-basin, and five books, were taken from the sideboard on the other side of the room—the decanter was left

on the chair—the books were, the Penny Magazine, one Bible, two Prayer Books, and the History of Maple Church—the small Prayer Book, with a silver clasp, was mine—three books were my brother's—that is one volume the Penny Magazine—the History of Maple Old Church—the Bible is my father's—the books were worth 1l. altogether—I found the windows shut, as the line was out of repair, and it would not keep up—if thrown up it falls down again—the catch of the window was not fastened when I left a room, but the window was shut down, and the Venetian blind was shut down, and fastened with a small button, or bolt—anybody, by throwing up the sash, could open the blind—I did not notice whether the bolt at the bottom had been forced.

THOMAS LAWRENCE , (a prisoner.) On the evening of the robbery Stone and Paine asked me whether I would go with them—I went with them to Helmet-row, and stood about there a long time—then Paine and Stone went up to the prosecutor's window—I was a little distance from them—they came, and said, "Now then, come along, it is all right"—they told me to get in at the window—I asked them what I was to give them when I got in—they said "Any thing"—I put my foot on a bar by the side of the house, and got in at the window, and gave them out the tea-caddy and some books—the window was open, the sash shoved up, the blind was open—I gave them out a tea-caddy and some books—Payne took them—there was a decanter I had in my hand, but I heard somebody coming, and put it down, got out of the window, and ran away with the stopper in my hand—I met Paine a little way from the place, and we went to Stone's house, and the property was there on the table—I stopped there some time, and then went home—I went there again at eight o'clock the next morning, and in about half an hour a boy named Cox came, and he was going to the pawnbrokers, and they asked him to pledge the books—he took them, came back, and said they would not take them—Paine and Stone were both in the room at the time Cox went away—he brought them back the prisoner bill and another young woman came in soon after, and then Mrs. Stone came in out of the country—we had not been there long before the officers came and took us into custody—I do not know that Hill did any thing—she was in the room—when the officers came Paine and Stone were gone out—they were in the room when Hill came, and she asked Stone if his mother was come home, as he expected her—Hill sells fish in Whitecross-street—the books were not there then—I do not know what had become of them—the tea-caddy was there—Mrs. Stone came in, and Paine and Stone went out to get some shavings for a dog to lie on, and the policeman came and took me and Hill.

JAMES BRANNAN . I am a policeman. In consequence of information on the 3rd of last month, I went to No. 12, Graham's Buildings, Twister's alley, St. Luke's, to a front room—I saw Hill, Lawrence, and another female—Hill and another female were sitting on a bed—a young man sitting between them endeavoured, as I thought, to conceal something underneath the bed clothes—I proceeded to search towards the bed—the prisoner, Hill, said, "That is Mrs. D. V—" What is?" said I—"The box," said the—I asked her what box—the other female replied, "The work-box"—on searching the bed, I found the caddy and sugar basin inside it—I also received a boot from Lawrence, which corresponded with a mark on the chair in Mr. Harding's parlour—after he had been discharged by the Magistrate, I saw something which induced me to take him into custody again—I saw him Judge the other prisoners, and very anxious to get away—winking at them

—I followed him to his lodgings in company with Davis, and asked him tolet me look at his boot—he said, "No," that he was discharged by the Magistrate, and I had no business to interfere with him—I said, "Just allow me to look at your boot, if you please"—he held up his right foot—I said "Let us look at the other"—it is a remarkable boot—some of the nails are out of it—I got it off, and took it to Mr. Harding's—the nails corresponded with the marks on the chair—I came back, and cautioned him of the im-propriety of saying any thing—he said, "I will tell you about it: I have been put into the window by Paine and Stone, and I handed out the caddy and books in question"—the Magistrate committed Paine and Stone on the evidence of the witnesses, Peck and Chetwood—Lawrence was dis-charged at first, but afterwards admitted as evidence for the Crown.

Cross-examined by Mr. DOANE. Q. Was there a box in the room? A. Only this caddy.

MATTHEW PEEK . I am a policeman. On Saturday, the 3rd of March in consequence of information, I went to the bottom of Twister's-alley, and took Stone into custody—I told him it was for the tea-caddy and I back which we had found at his mother's house—he said he bought the caddy in Petticoat-lane for 2s., and knew nothing about the books—on Monday when he was being taken to the Magistrate, I showed him the caddy under the servant's arm, and he said that was the tea-caddy he had bought.

JOSEPH PATRICK . I am a pawnbroker. On Saturday, the 3rd March, the prisoner, Stone, offered a prayer-book with silver clasps, and lessons bound in it—the foreman asked who it belonged to—I was there—he said a person at his house—we did not think ourselves justified in it, because it did not exactly answer the description given in the mori-nig and knowing him as a customer, we asked him to fetch the person it belonged to—he did not return—he did not leave the book with us.

ELIZABETH DOWNS . I live in Graham's-buildings, Twister'w-alley. On the 26th of February, the prisoners came into the lower room—I saw then move some furniture, and saw Hill and Payne two or three times in the course of the week backwards and forwards, but I saw nothing of the rob-bery whatever.

PHILIP CHEETWOOD . I am a policeman. From information I received I took Paine into custody, on the 3rd, at the corner of Twister's-alley—I asked if his name was not Paine—he denied it, and said it was Harns—I asked why he should deny it, his name was Paine—he said, "NO," it was a nick name he had—he denied it till the charge was taken.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Then it is not true as Lawrence has said, that Paine and the rest were taken in one room? You took him in the street? A. I did.

EVAN DAVIS . I am a policeman. On the 3rd of March, Sergeand Brannan sent for a constable—I went with him and took Hill and Elsley—Elsley was discharged—I took them for concealing the tea-caddy in the bed clothes.

GEORGE HARDING . That is my tea-caddy—(looking at it)—I know it again—the books have not been found.

STONE†— GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined One Year.



2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-984
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence; Guilty > lesser offence

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984. MARY LIPSCOMB and SARAH PITHERS were indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John Jones, on the 17th of March, and stealing therein 1 towel, value 6d.; 1 goe-box, value 1s.; 3 dice, value 3s.; 1 canvas bag, value 1s.; and 1 made shirt, value 2s.; the goods of David Lloyd Jones: 2 sheets, Value 4s.; 1 counterpane, value 1s.; 2 caps, value 6d.; 1 pair of ear-rings, value 8s.; 1 ear-ring, value 5s.; 1 pair of bracelets, value 5s.; 12 window certain, value 18s.; 1 bread basket, value 1s; and 2 pillow-case; the goods of the said John Jones.

JOHN JONES . I am a baker, and live at No. 3, Lisson-street, in the parish of Marylebone. On the night of the 17th of March I went to bed at twelve o'clock—the door was fast then—I got up at eight o'clock in the morning, and found it broken open, and missed the articles stated—some belong to me, and some of them to my son, David Lloyd Jones—the bracelets, ear-rings, and linen belong to me—the dice-box being gone first caught my attention—I then found a bag of dirty liner-emptied info gone I have found since a shirt cut out ready for making, which was on a chair an my house that night, and a counterpane which it was wrapped in—I found some of these things at No. 8, Providence-place, and some. at No. 91, Salisbury-street—I knew the prisoners by seeing them come to the next room to me a few days before—they used to come up and down stairs, as Lipscomp's sister lodged there—the house is let onto in lodgings—they had room of their own, and I have a room—I have only two room in the house—the landlord does not live there—I missed the things from my two rooms—both the prisoners used to come to the house—I left my key over the door when I went out.

DAVID LLOYD JOKES . My father and I went onto on Saturday night—came home before my father, and missed a dice-box about twelve o'clock—my father came home about half-past twelve o'clock—I 'told him I missed the dice-box—we missed nothing else that night—the next morning I missed a towel, marked with my name—I went out on the landing, and missed a canvas bag and a lot of other things—suspicion fell on the people in the next room—my father has a latch-key of the street door—the rooms are locked up separate from the rest of the house—no other lodgers go into his rooms.

MARY ANN PIEMAN . I live in this house. On Saturday evening I rent up stairs to Mrs. Sawyer, who was going to remove, to bid the children good bye, and met Lipscomb on the stairs—she came up—I said, "Good bye, Mary"—she said, "I want to speak to you"—I said, "Make haste, for my mother wants me"—she said, "Do you know where old Jones keeps his key/"—I said, "I believe he puts it over the ledge of the door"—I came down again to my mother—I was up stairs nearly all the evening, and saw the prisoner Lipscomb come and offer Mr. Spinks sixpence—Mrs. Spinks said "Your sister had better come, we will have it all settled together—then the two prisoners go over the way with two bundles, and I saw no more of them—I did not see her take Jones's key—I saw her came out of Mrs. Spinks's passage soon after Mr. Sawyer's things were moved out of her room—I then saw the two prisoners come out with two bundles—I did not see them take the bundles into any shop—I saw them cross Over the way with them.

Lipscomb. Q. Were not in in the room? A. No; I know nothing about it—I never went into the room at all.

WILLIAM SPINKS . I live in the same house as the prosecutor. On the night the robbery Lipscomb brought me 2s. 6d. out of 3s. which her

sister, Mrs. Sawyer, owed me—I refused to take it—I saw her go over the way with two large bundles after her sister had moved all her things out of the house—she went across the street from the street door—the other prisoner was with her, and she had a bundle also.

JURY. Q. How long was it after her sister's things were removed A. This was between eight and nine o'clock at night, and her sister move in the afternoon.

THOMAS HENRY THOMPSON (police-constable D 4.) On the 18th of March I went to No. 8, Providence-place, and went into the front parlour, and found the prisoner Pithers and her brother there—I said I had come to search the place—the man Pithers asked me what for—I told him for a robbery in Lisson-street, where Mrs. Sawyer had lived—he said I might search the place; he knew nothing about it—I proceeded to search, and in a trunk found a shirt unmade—I had Mr. Jones and his son with me—the son said it was his—I then found a counterpane, and the elder Jones owned that—while I was searching the box, the man said he knew nothing of what was in the box, and was quite innocent—I told the prisoner Pithers I must take her to the station-house—in going along 1 asked her where Mrs. sawyer your had gone to live—she said, "At 91, Salisbury-street"—I left her at the station-house, and proceeded to No. 91, Salisbury-street with the two Joneses—I went to a room—Pithers told me it was the top room, and they rented the floor—I went into the room, and found Mrs. Sawyer and the prisoner Lipscomb there—I asked Mrs. Sawyer if it was her place?—she said, "Yes "—I said I had come to search it—she said, I was welcome to search it—I asked if she knew what I was to search for—she said she did not—I said a robbery was committed in the house she had moved from—Tate, my brother officer, was with me—I left him there, and I went into the back room, and found three sheets behind the door, which Jones claimed—I found two pillow-cases and two caps—I then went into the front room and told Mrs. Sawyer what I had found—she said she knew nothing about it, for the things I had found were brought there by Lipscomb to be washed—Lipscomb was present—I went to a cupboard in the front-room and found the dice-box, which Jones's son claimed—I took a towel off the cupboard-door with Jones's name in full on it—I said to Mrs. Sawyer, "I must take you, and also your sister"—I said to Lipicomb, "Come, give me all the duplicates you have about you"—she said she had got none—I said, give me what you have got"—she put her hand into her pocket, and gave me a little box—I opened it, and found three dice in it—in taking her to the station-house, I told her she had got into a mess—she said she was not the first that went into the room, that Mary Ann Pieman went into the room first with a light, and took the trinkets out of a box behind the door—I have not found any trinkets—Mrs. Sawyer was discharged, and also the man Pithers—the house I searched belongs to the man Pithers—he said he rented the room—I asked him if the prisoner was his wife—he said no, she was his sister, and she lived there with him—when I found the sheet, she claimed it as hers—she said nothing about the countepane' when Mr. Jones claimed it, she cried.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

Mpscomb's Defence. I know nothing about it—my sister is more to blame than I am.



of Larceny only. Confined Six Months.

Third Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-985
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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985. JOHN FENTON was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of March, 1 pair of trowsers, value 5s.; 1 waistcoat, value 4s.; 1 pair of thoes, value 1s.; and 1 handkerchief, value 1s. 6d.; the goods of Edmund Lathbury.

EDMUND LATHBURY . I formerly lodged in Little George-street, Hampstead-road—the prisoner lodged in the same room. On the morning of the 12th of March, when I got up, I missed these clothes, which I had worn the previous day—the prisoner was then gone, and his clothes left behind—I afterwards saw him in custody, with all my things on.

FERDINAND JOHNS . I live in Little George-street, and keep the house. found the prisoner at the Cock public-house, Brook-street, New-road, and charged him with stealing these things—I gave him to the constable.

WILLIAM BARNETT (police-constable S 25.) I saw the prisoner at Mr.Johns's, and asked him whether he took the clothes in mistake—he said no.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-986
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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986. ROBERT GORDON was indicted for stealing, on, the 24th of March, 1 watch, value 5l.; and 1 chain, value 1s.; the goods of Elizabeth Barraclough.

ELIZABETH BARRACLOUGH . I live in Curzon-street, and am single. On the 24th of March, I was in my kitchen, and Mrs. Lenel, who works for me, was in the parlour—she came to the head of the stairs, and gave me notice that my apartments which I had to let, were inquired after—I went up, and saw the prisoner at the parlour door—while I was telling him what I had to let, Mrs. Lenel asked me if I had my watch—I said, "No, I have not, it is on the mantel-piece"—she said, "It is not there"—I looked and missed it—I seized the prisoner by the collar, and said he had it—he said he had not—I said, "You have, and shall not go till you give it to me"—I pulled hint in to the parlour, and called Mr. Dungey, who was putting down an oil-cloth—the prisoner then put his hand into his pocket, put the watch on the table, and said, "There is your watch"—I said, "You have put it there"—he said, "I have not"—Mr. Dungey came up, and secured him.

WILLIAM DUNGEY . I live in Little Chelsea, and am a cabinet-maker. I was in the kitchen, and heard the prosecutrix call out—I came up, and she said, "This man has stolen my watch," and said, "Give it me directly," said, "Come; deliver it up directly"—I saw him take the watch from some part of his person, and put it on the table.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

Prisoner's defence. I admit having taken it into my hands to inspect it; the reason I did so was, because it was similar to one I had about three and a half years ago.

GUILTY . Aged 35.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-987
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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987. LUCY PATRICK was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of March, 1 table-cloth, value 1s.; and 1 sheet, value 4s.; the goods of Nathaniel Fountain, her master.

NATHANIEL FOUNTAIN . I keep Marquis of Granby public-house, St. Pancras. The prisoner lived with me for about three weeks—I was present when my wife asked the prisoner to produce the sheets of her bed

and a table-cloth which had been given to her, and she said she had pledged them.

JAMES PORTER (police-constable E 85.) I was at Mr. Fountain's as Sunday evening, after the 12th of March, when the prisoner was accused of another robbery in the house, and she consented to Mrs. Fountain searching her—she said she was not in the habit of pawning, and had as duplicates about her—she afterwards gave me her pocket, and I found for duplicates—one was for a sheet, and another for a table-cloth.

JAMES MILLS . I am shopman to Mr. Attenborough, of Charlotte-street I produce a sheet, pawned on the 12th of March, in the name of Ass Patrick—I do not know who by, but I gave the ticket which has been produced for it.

NATHANIEL FOUNTAIN re-examined. This is my sheet.

GUILTY . Aged 37.— Confined Six Months.

(There was another indictment against the prisoner.)

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-988
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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988. JOHN HARRIS was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of March, 3 pewter pots, value 2s. 6d., the goods of George Caslake.

THOMAS JENNINGS . I am potman to George Caslake, at the Boston Arms, Preston-street, Regent's-park. On the morning of the 24th of March, I saw the prisoner with a bag—I followed him up Park-terrace—he ran as soon as he saw me, and I after him—he dropped the bag—I caught him—he said, "Don't give me in charge, if you please "—I gave him to the policeman, brought him back, picked up the bag and the pots in it, which belonged to my master.

Prisoner, As I went up Preston-street, a young man put a bag in to my hand, and said, "Here, young man, here is something for you"—I heart a cry of "Stop thief"—I immediately ran after him, and the young man caught me—I said, "Are you going to blame me for it?" Witness. He said nothing about another man—he owned the bag, and said they were the first pots he had ever stolen.

THOMAS KENNY (police-constable D 46.) I saw Jenning running after the prisoner—he came in a direction from the Sovereign public-house—I saw the bag produced, and asked him if it was his—he said it was—I asked How the pots came in it—he said they were the first pots he had ever (Property produced and sworn to.)

GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-989
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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989. DANIEL WILLIAM M'LAUREN was indicted forstearling on the 31st of March, 10 handkerchiefs, value 5s., the goods of Gilbert Orme.

GEORGE COLLYER (police-constable E 38.) On the 31st of March I saw the prisoner running down Great Russell-street, from the Prosecutor's shop, with a bundle under his arm—I stopped him, and asked what he had there—he threw the bundle down—I picked it up, and took him back to the prosecutor's shop, and he identified ten handkerchiefs which were in the bundle.

Prisoner. It was given into my hands by a carroty-headed young man Witness. He was alone, and not ten yards from the shop when I stopped him—if there had been another young man I must have seen him, for I saw the prisoner come from the shop.

GILBERT ORME . I am a linen-draper, and live in Little Russell-street,

Govern-garden. This piece of cotton handkerchief is mine—it was secured by cord to my shop—it was half-past seven o'clock when I last saw it—the prisoner was stopped ten or a dozen yards off.

GUILTY. Aged 17.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-990
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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990. JOHN GREGSON BUCKLEY was indicted for bigamy.

WILLIAM BUCKLEY . I live at the Metropolitan Asylum, Ball's Pond; the prisoner is my son. I was present when he was married to Eliza Wild Woble, at St. Dunstan's-in-the-West, on the 25th of December, but I cannot ascertain the year—it was about nine or ten years ago—they lived together about two years in my house—I saw her alive last Monday.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Where did they live after marriage? A. I believe along with her father and mother, before they came to be with me—my son has been a soldier, and was at the battle of Waterloo—he was an assistant officer of Excise ten years—I have seen him with Jane Harman, his second wife, at times, but her conduct was most Horridly had—I cannot tell why the first wife and he parted—I do not recollect their living together after the two years—not constantly.

RICHARD COWDEEY . I am parish clerk of St. Dunstan's-in-the-West. produce the marriage register for 1828—on the 25th of December in that rear, I find John Gregson Buckley and Elizabeth Waite Noble were parried by banns—William Buckley is witness to the marriage.

WILLIAM BUCKLEY re-examined. That is my signature in the register, and I find my son's writing here.

JANE HARMAN . I live in Stepney-green workhouse. I became acquained with the prisoner in 1834—he represented himself as single—named him on the 16th of August, at Kennington, New Church, and lived with him several months—I have bad a child by him—he left me very heavy with the baby, without any habitation—I wag obliged to go on the pariah—he left me destitute, and what clothes I bad he took from me, without leaving me even a pair of stockings, except what f bad on—I flew in the face of my father and friends and everybody for him, when his conduct was bad, and then I bad nobody to go to—the parish found be was a married man.

Cross-examined. Q. Did not you live with him before you were married? A. I cannot say I did not—I did not press him to marry me, it was his own inclination—I had no property—my father did not turn me out of doors—I lived with him in the country—we came to town together, and lived in the Borough—he has deserted me since the 10th of October—he brought me up from the country the last time, and left me in a coffee-shop—he had ill-used me in the country, and knocked me down several times—I have had bruises on my stomach from his ill-usage—he took me to a coffee-shop, in town—I went away for less than twenty minutes, and when I came in I found him gone out—I was married before the child was born—my conduct was not violent towards him—that I will swear—he did not tell me before he married me that he was married to another person—I did not know his wife was living—he said at the station-house that I knew of it, but I did not know it—I have never said he told me he had another wife, and that I thought he was joking—I had not the least idea of it—I was married before the child was born, but that child is dead.

COURT. Q. How old were you when he introduced himself to you? A. I am now twenty-seven—I was then about twenty four—he made no

promise of marriage when I first became acquainted with him he said, must trust to his honor, and he certainly performed what he said be would.

MR. PAYNE. Q. You do not know of his seeing his first wife while you were with him? A. No; but I have passed the door where his first wife lived with him, but I did not know she lived there.

ELIZA WIGGINS . I live in Kennington-oval. I was present at the marriage between Harman and the prisoner, on the 16th of August, 1838 at St. Mark's church, Kennington.

WILLIAM EASTER . I am parish clerk to the district church of St. Mark, Kennington. I produce the register—I find a marriage between John Buckley, bachelor, and Jane Harman, by banns—I recollect wiggins being there—she has signed the register.

GUILTY . Aged 40.— Confined Twelve Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-991
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown
SentenceTransportation; Imprisonment

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991. RICHARD SKATES, MARY ANN M'CARTY, MARY CARROLL , and MARY MORGAN , were indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of March, 4 handkerchiefs, value 20s., the goods of Thomas Foster; and that Mary Ann M'Carty had been before convicted of felony.

SAMUEL WARD . I am shopman to Thomas Foster, a linen-draper, in the Oxford-street. On the afternoon of the 23rd of March, I saw the three female prisoners in the shop, about four o'clock—Carroll and Morgan first came in, and asked to look at some silk pocket-handkerchiefs—I showed them some—they objected to the price, and went out—they came in again in a few minutes in company with M'Carty—they bought one handchief between them—it came to 3s. 6d.—M'Carty gave me the money for it, and they left the shop—in consequence of information which I received from a person named Lathart, I missed from the windows two pieces containing four handkerchiefs, one three, and the other a single handkerchief.

JOSEPH DAVIS LATHART . I live in Bath-place, Bayswater. On the afternoon of the 23rd of March I saw the four prisoners together in my Oxford-street—I followed and saw them go into several shops—M'carty and Morgan went into the first shop, Carroll waiting outside—the next shop they went to, the three women went in, and the man remained outside—they went down Oxford-street, by Foster's shop, to Mr. Taylor's—I met a policeman, and told him my suspicions—we followed—they met some more companions, and went over to a public-house, after which they left their companions—they went over to Mr. Taylor', the three women going in, and the man remaining outside—in a few mimutes Carroll came out with something bulky under her cloak, and turned up Hanway-yard—the man followed her close up—I did not see M'carty or Morgan in Foster's shop—I saw three loose handkerchiefs drop from M'Carty at the station-house, and a red one from Morgan—I met them, I suppose, after they had been into Foster's shop.

Skates. I was with three young men, not with these women. Witness. He was with the three women—they went westward, then came back, and went eastward.

COURT. Q. Was he joining them from time to time? A. Every time they came out of the shops he joined them—I was watching them for above three quarters of an hour—I counted five shops that they went in to.

JOHN SMITHERS (police-constable C 71.) I saw the three prisoner's at

Mr. Taylor's shop—the male prisoner was standing outside—I saw Carroll come out with something bulky under her cloak—Skates followed her down Hanway-yard—Leonard laid hold of Carroll, and a roll of serge fell from her—I secured Skates—they were looking at table-cloths, at Taylor's—I thought M'Carty was concealing something under her shawl—I took Skates back into Mr. Taylor's shop—he asked me where I wasgoing to take him—I said, "To the station-house"—he said he should not—he tried to get away from me, and threw me down an area at the house—I saw this handkerchief fall from one of the three women.

WILLIAM BALSTER . I am shopman to Henry Taylor. I saw the three female prisoners in his shop—they asked to look at some table-covert—two of them came up to the counter, and one stopped at the door—I saw no more of them then—the two looked at table-covers, and in a few minutes the policeman and another man brought in the male prisoner and he other female—it was about half-past six o'clock.

Morgan. I did not drop the red handkerchief. Witness. She did, M'Carty dropped her apron over it.

SAMUEL WOOD re-examined. These handkerchiefs are the tame pattern and quality as we lost from the shop—I believe them to be ours—no one was in the shop when the three prisoners came in.

Defence. I was in Oxford-street, with three young men—I at into a public-house, and met these young women—they all went in have something to drink, and came out—the three women went one way, and I the other—the policeman came and shoved me into the shop, and afterwards crossed the road, and said he was going to take me—three more young men were in company with the women, as well as myself—I ever taw the women before that day.

WILLIAM FEATHERTON (police-constable N 7.) I produce a certificate of M'Cartby'4 former conviction, which I got from the office of the Clerk of the Peace for Surrey—I was present at her trial, in May, 1837—she is the person who was then convicted—(read.)

M'Carthy's Defence. I was innocent of it—my husband promised a boy 10s. to come against me on that occasion. Witness. I know of nothing of the sort—I have no reason to believe it was a conspiracy—she was convicted the name of Hamilton.

SKATES*— GUILTY . Aged 23.

M'CARTY*— GUILTY . Aged. 23.

Transported for seven Years.



Confined Twelve Months.

NEW COURT.—Thursday, April 5th, 1838.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-992
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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992. WILLIAM TOWNSEND was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of March, 1000 bricks, value 1l. 10s., the goods. of Thomas Grissell and another.

JOHH CURNOCK . I live at No. 19, Wharf, Padding ton, and am a car man. I contract with Messrs. Grissell and Peto, to cart bricks to the Western Railway, from the wharf—the prisoner was my carter—on the 6th of March, it was his duty to drive the bricks down the Harrow-road, to the

Red Lion, Westbound-green—he had no business in Horrox-street—that is directly out of the way.

JOHN DRURV . I live in Horrox-street, Marylebone, and am a labourer employed on the Great Western Railway. I know Curnock's caru—on the 6th of March, at six o'clock in the morning, I saw the prisoner and another man in Horrox-street, each with a cart loaded with bricks—there was a butcher's cart against a stable gate, and they were shifting it away that they might shoot the bricks—Townsend first shot his load of bricks, against the stable door, and then the other man shot his bricks down—I know they was both Curnock's carts—I took up one of the bricks in my hand, after they were shot out, and there was the letter A on it, which is the same sort brick that were used on the works—I have no doubt of the prisoner being one of the men—the carts were loaded with five hundred each—I told my foreman of it, and brought him to the place where the bricks were shot.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. When did you tell your form man? A. I did not see him till the Wednesday, and I told him between nine and ten o'clock—I was never taken up—I was taken up in a false case—I did not swear I was never taken up—I did and to Marylebone-office—I was only examined once—there was another young man and me together—he took it from his father—I have never been at Marylebone police-office but that once—I have been there many time to see a friend, when there were bits of rows—I will not swear I have not been there twenty times, or a hundred times—I never was under any change but the lead—I swear that I was never charged with stealing any thing else neither there nor any where else—I know the brick bridge in the Harrow road—I cannot tell How far that is from Horrox-street.

JAMES LAUOHTON . I am foreman to Thomas Grissell and Samuel Poet, they are doing the work of the Great Western Railway. On the Wednesday, I was informed of something by Drury—I went to Horrar street, and saw some bricks there, but Sid well's cart had taken the greader part of them away—I believe them to belong to my employer—they were marked with the A—I have no doubt they were theirs.

RICHARD RQADKNIGHT (police-constable T 120.) I took the prisoner at Paddington—I told him it was for stealing some bricks—he said he knew nothing about them—in coming along, he said the men told him the other man was gone away, and asked him if he was going—he said no, he should stand his ground—I then went to see for Sid well, but could not find him.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you not kept back deliberately what was is favorite of this man? A. He said he was innocent—he might have said prove that they saw him at work on the railway that morning at six o'clock—did not think of that at the time, or I should have given it—he said both that a man and two men on the second bridge on the Harrow-road saw him on the works at six o'clock in the morning.


CHARLES SHAW . I am an excavator. I live at No. 2 Wharf-road—I have come from the Chelsea works to-day—I remember Tuesday morning the 6th of March—I saw the prisoner at work about two or three minutes past six o'clock—I heard the clock strike—I do not know Hortox-streets—the prisoner was driving a cart-load of bricks over the brick bridge—a

boy was with him—another horse was drawing him over the bridge—I remember the day, because it was the first morning we were to go home to breaks—we had oar breakfast before we went oat on other mornings—I call it the brick bridge, because there is another bridge which is wooden.

GEORGE HELVEY . I am a son of the prisoner's wife by a former marriage. I vas with him on Tuesday, the 6th of March—I looked after the other horse—the prisoner called me up at ten minutes before six o'clock—I was at the brick bridge two or three minutes after six o'clock—when I was taking the horse out of the stable the church clock struck six o'clock—Horrox-street is very near three quarters of a mile from the brick bridge—the prisoner went on over the bridge, after I took the horse off—Shaw went order the bridge with my father—I saw Jones there.

JOHN JOKES . I am an excavator on the road. I was with Shaw on this Tuesday morning—it was the first morning we went out at six o'clock to week—before that we used to go at seven o'clock—I did not hear the dock strike—I saw the prisoner on the brick bridge—the boy was with him. NOT GUILTY .

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-993
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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993. FREDERICK SAUNDERS was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of March, 1 shell, value 30s., the goods of the Trustees of the British Museum, his masters.—2 other COUNTS, stating it to belong to other persons.

MR. ADOLFHUS conducted the Prosecution,

THOMAS CLEMENTS . I am an officer of Marlborough-street. Mr. Childers, of the British Museum, put this shell into my hands—I took the prisoner hi charge—I searched his lodgings, but found nothing that was identified by Mr. Gray who was present.

JOHN EDWARD GRAT . I am assistant in the Natural History department, "having charge of the shells. The prisoner is an attendant in the British Museum, in the service of the Trustees, and has been so ten or twelve years—I purchased a shell similar to this at a sale, in 1836, for the Museum—I had seen it about two or three months ago—I do not swear to the identity of the shell; but Mr. Sowerby took a drawing of it, and took the shell out to compare it with the drawing—I pat it back again—that shell is not there now—there has been no sale of shells from the Museum.

HENTRY KAY EVANS . I am a dealer in cariosities, and live at No. 282, High Holborn. The prisoner has brought me several shells to sell—on the 12th of March he brought me three—I think I should know them again—this seems to be one of them—it is such a shell as he brought—I sold it to Mr. Sowerby—I inspected it very little—I laced it in my window—I am sure it was the same I sold to Sowerby—I had it about three days—I gave 6s. for the three shells.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. you are a good judge of shells? A. No, not particularly—I give what I think a fair value—I have some hundreds—I can swear this is the one I bought of the prisoner, from having placed the three in a triangle in the window—I have always said so—I did say I bought so many shells I could not tell who I bought it of, as I did not wish to get the prisoner into trouble, and he called on me to say he was about: being promoted—I said I did not know who I bought it of—I never said so since I had to attend Marlborough-street—Mr. Childers called on

me, and I wished to evade it, as the prisoner was about being promoted—I never said it to any one else but Mr. Childers—that I swear, and to Mr. Sowerby—he called at the same time—I considered these two gentlemen one—I think they called on me a week after I bought it of Saunders—that was the first application that was made to me about the prisoner—he called two days before Mr. Childers—I think Mr. Childers called on Friday morning—I told them I did not know who I bought it of, as I did not wish to get the prisoner into trouble, not expecting it amounted to felony; and, more than that, the prisoner told me he bought it of a Frenchman—I did not tell that to the Magistrate—I never bought any thing of a person who was transported for selling it to me—they wished me to call at the Museum, and go round to see any one that I had bought of at any time, and I thought it best to say the truth—I never remember purchasing two bottiles of indigo of a boy—I cannot recollect it—I never bought two bottle of tregonium in my life—I know what you allude to—I never was up a any public office in my life—I never heard of a boy being transported for any regnum which I bought of him.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Had you known the prisoner for some yean? A. Yes—it was at his request that I made the statement I have done—he said he was about being promoted, and he did not wish them to know it—I called on Mr. Childers half an hour after, and told him the whole truth—I was examined before Mr. Dyer, and what I stated was taken down—I am certain that the shell I bought of the prisoner was so set apart that I can be certain it was the same—I placed the three in a tray.

GEORGE BRETTINGHAM SOWERBY . I purchased this shell of Evans, on Monday, the 19th of March, with four or five others—I saw another shell in the window, and then I went in and bought this one, giving 3s. for it—my daughter had made a drawing of it before, when it was in the Museum, and I knew it not only by the particular marks of the shell, bat there being a small hole on one side of it, which I remembered from the first time I saw it—I made a communication to the Museum—I believe I am considerably versed in shells—I never saw such a one as this before—I consider it worth 30s. at least.

Cross-examined. Q. At the time you first went in and saw it, was Evans in the shop? A. No, I saw him in about a minute after—I did not ask him any. Question about it then—he did not say any thing at all about where he had it, or How long—I asked the price—he said 3.—I went again on the second day, with Mr. Childers—the prisoner had not been taken up at that time—Evans said he bought so many, he could not tell who be bought it of, or words to that effect.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. How long had you seen it before you bought it? A. I should think twelve months—it did not immediately strike me as being the shell—when I first saw it I was very much pleased, as it was an opportunity of adding a shell to my own collection, and when I got it home I saw the small hole in it.

THOMAS CLEMENTS . I was present at the examination of the prisoner before Mr. Dyer—I cannot say that I saw Mr. Dyer sign the deposition I know his hand-writing—I was examined the same day and the same time—the prisoner refused saying any thing.

JOHN EDWARD GRAY re-examined. I think Saunders was information the loss of this shell after it was in Sowerby's possession—I cannot tell.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-994
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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994. CHARLES SUGGETT was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of March, 4 feet of leaden pipe, value 1s.; and 1 metal cock, value 1s.; the goods of Thomas Davies, and fixed to a building.

THOMAS DATIES . I keep the Royal Oak public-house, Princes-street, Portman-market. No. 5, Princes-street belongs to me—I had four feet of leaden pipe and a metal cock there—I had seen it fixed a few days before it was stolen—this is the cock and pipe, I am certain—I fixed it myself.

PATRICK HAGGERTY . I am a policeman. I was on duty in Princes-street, Portman-market, on Tuesday night, the 13th of March, and found No. 5 was open—I shut the door to—just about ten o'clock, I saw the prisoner come out—after that I asked him if he belonged to the house, he said, "Yes"—I said, "Are you sure?"—he said, "I don't exactly belong to it, there is a female there I go to see "—I said I will take you back to see—he said, "Do you think I am a thief?"—I searched him and found this pipe and cock in his pocket. (The prisoner pleaded poverty.)

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-995
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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995. RICHARD GIFFORD was indicted for stealing, on the 2nd of April, 1 bottle, value 2d.; and 1 1/2; quarter of gin, value 4d., the goods of William Chaplin.

CHARLES WABLAND . I am porter at the Swan-with-two-necks, Lad-line, I had a parcel on the 2nd of April directed to Slatcher, of Daventry, by the Birmingham coach—I laid it on the counter, and did not know what it contained—I saw it safe about eight o'clock, or within two or three minutes—the coach was to start at eight o'clock.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. What was it? A. A paper parcel—this is it—(producing it)—we did not know the contents.

THOMAS COOK . I am a book-keeper. I booked this parcel to go by the coach—I opened it at Guildhall—it contained a bottle and some gin.

GEORGE EDWARDS . I am horse-keeper at the Swan-with-two-necks. A few minutes after eight o'clock, I saw a parcel behind the back of the coach-wheel—the prisoner dropped a red handkerchief upon it, and then took it up, parcel and all together—he made away with it—I could not stop him—I halloed "Stop thief "—that is the sort of parcel he picked up.

Cross-examined. Q. Where were you? A. I was going across the road, about two yards from it—I saw no one but him against the parole—it all happened in less than a minute.

GEORGE DOUGLAS . I live in Pink-row, and am a shoe-maker. I heard a cry of "Stop thief"—I saw the prisoner running, and drop this parcel—I took it up.

Cross-examined. Q. Where was this? A. In Lad-lane—I lost sight c the person—I heard the cry, turned round, and the prisoner was close be him me—I knew him directly I saw him again—I was going the same way—he was coming after me—I was near the top of Lad-lane—he turned up Wood-street, and ran up Maiden-lane.

WILLIAM LLOYD . I live in Angel-street. I was in Lad-lane, and saw the prisoner running—I made a snatch at him, but could not hold him—I pursued him to Maiden-lane, and the policeman caught him.

Cross-examined. Q. What made you sure of him? A. I had a very good sight of him—I had him in my arms, and I never lost sight of him until he

was in the police—I went in search of the parcel, and found it in the witness's hand.

WILLIAM WIGGINS . I live in Wood-street. I heard a cry of "Stop thief," and saw the prisoner running very fast—I followed him—he took up the tail of his coat, and ran on until the policeman stopped him—I saw him knock the policeman down.

CHARLES WALLER (City police-sergeant No. 8) I was in Maiden-lane, and saw the prisoner running up the street, calling "Stop thief;" but he being the first, I said, "You are the thief"—he knocked Crawley down who was with me—I seized him—we all three went down, and I took him back.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you take any money from him? A. No; I searched him—there was no money taken from him.

THOMAS COOK . I am book-keeper at the S wan-with-two necks. Mr. William Chaplin keeps the office.

Cross-examined. Q. Does it belong to Mr. Chaplin alone? A. Yet; be has no partner in London—he is the sole proprietor of the booking-office and yard in London.

GUILTY . Aged 29.— Confined One Year.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-996
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown
SentenceTransportation; No Punishment > sentence respited

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996. JAMES GREENHALL and WILLIAM SMAILE were indicted for stealing, on the 29th of March, 1 box, value 1l.; 1 card-plate, value 1s.; 1 miniature, value 10s.; 3 pairs of spectacles, value 1l. 5s.; 1 pair of spun, value 1s.; 3 purses, value 5s.; 24 foreign silver coins, value 1l.; 1 open-glass, value 5s.; 4 snuff-boxes, value 5l.; 3 pocket-books, value 5s.; 11 books, value 10s.; 1 card-case, value 1s.; 1 wafer-stamp, value 5s.; 2 pencil-cases, value 2s.; 3 seals, value 10s.; 1 piece of pebble, value 1s.; 1 cork, value 10s.; 1 minute-glass, value is d.; 1 box of whist-markers, vain 1s.; 8 counters, value 1s.; 20 pens, value 1s.; 1 kettle-bolder, value 1l.; 1 cross of the order of the Bath, value 40l.; 1 medal, value 5l.; 2 medaleases, value 2s.; 1 muff, value 1l.; 1 coat, value 1l.; 1 bell, value 5s.; 1 knife, value 2d.; and 1 shell, value 6d.; the goods of George Davis Wilson, Esq.

GEORGE DAVIS WILSON, ESQ . I am a colonel in the army. About three o'clock, on the 28th of March, I landed from a steam-packet—I bad twenty-five or twenty-six trunks at the Custom-house—I was informed that some of them had been taken from the cart in which they had been deposited to go down to Rumford—four or five packages of different kinds were gone—one of them contained the card-plate, spectacles, and all these things—this order of the Bath, and this gold medal, are mine; and this box full of things are all mine—(looking at them.)

BENJAMIN MASTERS . I am servant to Messrs. Ing and Smith, of Rom ford, brewers. At half-past six o'clock on Wednesday evening, the 28th of March, I left the Custom-house, going to Col. Wilson's with the cart with twenty-six packages of various sorts in it—I saw them all put in—there was a tilt over the cart—I rode before—when I got to the Rising Sun public-house, in Bow-road—I heard something fall from the hind part—I stopped, jumped down, and found the cord cut, and some parcels gone—I turned, and saw a man—I made up to him, and said, "What have you taken out of my cart—he said, "Nothing," but two men have run by—I said, "I with stop you"—he got away from me, ran to the path, jumped over into Mr. Gregory's field—I was afraid to go from my cart—I went to the Rising

Sun, and staid there till the patrols came up—we went up and down with a candle, but could find nothing—I cannot swear, but I believe, the man I saw was Greenhall—he had a fustian frock coat on, as he has now, and by his features and dress I think he is the roan—it was very dark—when I returned home instead of twenty-six parcels I had only twenty-one.

JAMES HAINES (police-constable K 248.) I was on duty last Thursday morning the 29th of March, in High-street, Bow, and at half-past three o'clock I saw three persons pass me with a donkey cart—there was some music playing at the Black Swan—the three persons stopped to listen to it—I took particular notice of them—they stood under a gas-light—I suspected from their appearance, and the knowledge I had of one, who is not is custoday, that they were after no good—they went down the road—I met another officer—we agreed to watch them coming back, and to examine their cart—about six o'clock the two prisoners came back in the cart—I stopped and asked them what they had got in the cart—they said, nothing, and I was welcome to look if I pleased—I got into the part, and found about half a load of dung in it, with three empty hampers turned he said down, which they were sitting on—I turned them over, took out my staff turned the dung over, and found these two white boxes—I jumped down, laid hold of Smile, and asked him where he got them from—he said they had picked them up by the road-side—I took him to the station-house, sod found a half-crown in his shoe.

HENRY MILSTED (police-constable K 208.) In consequence of what haines said to me, I watched, and at twenty minutes to six o'clock I saw the donkey cart, and the two prisoners in it, coming up from Bow—the prisoner said they had nothing, and we were welcome to look—Haines took sinaile, I took Greenhall, and as we were going to the station-house I saw this other red box projecting out under the dung—it contains the articles stated.

WILLIAM ROBERT GARDE . I am a police inspector. The officers brought he prisoners and the boxes to me—I broke open this one, which confined the articles.

Greenhall's Defence. At half-past three o'clock I went down to Romford with this man to buy some roots, and in going down we found these two white boxes and this red box, with a cover over it—we took them up, at them into a cart, and were returning home with them, when we were stopped—we said we had nothing but what we picked up.

HENRY MILSTED . They said they had nothing at all, and "Look if you Greenhall. They took us to the office, and there were some more prisoners—some women and a man with a trunk, which was found on the road-side—we were bringing these thinks to town, thinking there would he a reward for them.

Smile's Defence. As we were going down the road we saw something white, and found these boxes, and the red box had a black cover over it—as we came back we were stopped, and told the officer we had nothing, only that found.

GREENHALL— GUILTY . Aged 20.— Trartsported for Seven Years.

SMAILE— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Judgment Respected.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-997
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation; Not Guilty > unknown

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997. JOHN ADDISON and THOMAS SMITH were indicted for stealing, on the 24th of March, 1 sack, value 6d.; and 9 1/2; pecks of oats, beans, and clover chaff, mixed together, value 3s. 6d.; the goods of Hugh M'Intosh.

JOHN M'INNIS . I am in the service of Mr. Hugh M'Intosh—he is contractor for the Great Western Railway, and is executing a part near Han well—Addison was his carter—Mr. M'Intosh finds food for his horses. On Saturday, the 24th of March, from information I received, I went to his stable at Drayton-green, and ascertained what horse provender Addition had taken out with him that morning—I then went after him to Ealine I found him about seven o'clock in the morning, and asked him where the chaff was that he had taken out from the stable—he said it wag in the nose-bag—I asked where the sack was that he had taken out three quarter full—(I put that question from information I had got)—he told me he had got none but what was in the nose-bag, and denied taking any other out—I then took him out of the cart, and he voluntarily admitted to me he had left a sack with Tom, the ostler, at the Coach and Horses—this was cart of bricks he was loading—in consequence of what Addison said I went to the Coach and Horses, at Ealing—I saw Smith sweeping the front of the house—he is, I believe, under-ostler—I took a policeman and Addison with me—I asked Smith what he had done with the sack of chaf corn and beans that Addison left with him—Smith, at first, denied having seen Addison, or the corn, or sack either—I gave him into custoday he then said he had found the sack down in the shed—I looked under the manger of the stable, and found the sack produced, about three quarter foil with chaff, corn, and beans—I know it to be the same sort of sack we have for our oats and beans—it had some grey hairs upon it, as if it had been laid across a grey horse's back—I gave them in charge—when Addi-son went out in the morning, he had no business at the Coach and Horses.

JOSEPH DAVIS . I am housekeeper to Mr. M'Intosh. On the 24th March, Addison took some grey horses from the stable at Drayton, a little after six o'clock—they were going to work by the rail-road—be took his two nose-bags, and about three parts of a sack of mixed corn, chaff, beans and oats, on a grey horse's back—I have since seen a sack in the police man's possession—it has the same mark on it as my master's had that the took that morning, and it had the same grey hairs on it—I then went to find Addison, and took him at Ealing—he ought to have had the same sack of food he had taken in the morning, but he had not—this is the same sack as we have.

HENRY GILES (police-constable T 72.) I was in the neighbourhood of Ealing, in the morning of the 24th of March, at the Coach and Horses, about a quarter-past six o'clock, and saw both the prisoner drinking together, in front of the house—I went on and saw Mr. M'Innis—I communicated some suspicions to him—there were two grey house with Addison—they had nose-bags, hitched on to the harness, and no cart—about an hour after that, Mr. M'Innis returned to the station-house Addison and he gave me an account of what he had done with it—from what he said, I went to the Coach and Horses, with Mr. M'Innis, and Smith—I asked what he had done with the sack—he said he had chucked it down, and he did not know where it was—I went in, but could not find it—we then came out, and asked Mr. M'Innis to go and look under the manger—he went and found it—I knew Smith nearly twelve months he has been ostler all that time.

Addison's Defence. I went there to give my horses water—I just turned way, and the sack was taken off the horse's back—I could not see it any where—I have worked twenty years for Mr. M'Intosh.

ADDISON— GUILTY. Aged 28.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor .— Confined Three Months.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-998
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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998. EDWARD ROBINSON was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of March, 1 coat, value 5s., the goods of Edward Whetherall.

EDWARD WETHERALL . I live in Edward Terrace, Islington. About nine o'clock in the morning, on the 17th of March, I left my great coat in By ball—I did not miss it, but I saw it at Hatton-garden.

JOSEPH HILTON . I live in Penton-street. On Saturday afternoon, at half-past one o'clock, I was in Edward Terrace, and saw the prisoner standing just by Mr. Wetberall's gate—I went on to No. 4, and as I came back I saw the prisoner go from the door across the fields, to a person who was here—he took something from that person, and then he put this great coat on him—I followed him till he came to the station-house in Rosamond street, and there I gave him in charge.

Prisoner. I was in great distress.

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-999
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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999. LOUISA NEWMAN was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of March, 10 yards of printed cotton, value 4s., the goods of Thomas Read.

HENRY NASH . I am shopman to Thomas Read—he keeps a linendraper's shop in Sidney-place, Commercial-road. On the 15th of March his cotton was on the iron outside the window—I missed it—I went out and saw the prisoner—I ran after her, and caught her—I asked if she had my print—she said "No," but I heard she had thrown it away—it was ticked up, and given to me—I went and took her again—it is my master's cotton.

ANN CAMPBELL . I was at the shop, and in going in, I saw the prisoner take a piece of print off the bar—I gave information to the witness, who went out.

WILIIAM PARAMOUR (police-constable K 51.) I took the prisoner, and have the print.

Prisoner. I did not have it.

GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1000
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1000. THOMAS CRUMP was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of march, 1 pair of trowsers, value 7s., the goods of William James Stevenson.

RICHARD WILLIAM MUSOROVE . I am an apprentice to William James Stevenson., of Ratcliffe-highway. These trowsers were outside the door on 19th of March—I heard they were gone, and missed them—these are them—(looking at them.).

WILLIAM BORHAM . I live in Hermitage-street. I was in a cart going by the prosecutor's, and observed the prisoner and another man between six and seven o'clock in the evening, taking a pair of trowsers, which were attached to a bar or stiff string—the other one cut the trowsers down, and gave them the prisoner, who put them into his apron, and made off—I stopped,

and made after him—the prisoner dropped the trowsers—I did not take them up, but pursued—our carman followed me—he took up the trowser and assisted me in taking the prisoner back to the shop.

Prisoner. I had not seen them.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1001
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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1001. SAMUEL FLETCHER and MARIA FLETCHER were in dieted for stealing, on the 21st of December, Gibes, of feathers, value 10s.; 3 blankets, value 10s.; 2 sheets, value 4s.; 2 pillows, value 6s.; bolster, value 5s.; and 1 flat-iron, value 6d.; the goods of Edward Peacock.

EDWARD PEACOCK . I live in Adam-street, East, and am a grocet The prisoners lodged in my house from November—the apartments were furnished—on the morning of the 16th of March, I went to their room—I observed the bed was open, and the prisoners in the act of removing fea there—I looked round, and all the bed clothes were gone—the blanking sheets, pillows, and bolster—I said, "What! are you robbing me?"—they said, "Oh no, we met with an accident and burnt the bed"—the other things are here.

GEORGE SPELLER . I live with Mr. Walter, a pawnbroker, in High-street, Marylebone. I have a blanket pawned on the 21st of December—I cannot say by whom, but two of these articles the woman pawned—I have seven in all, sheets and other things.

CHARLOTTE PEACOCK . I am the prosecutor's wife. These blankets sheets, bolster, and other things, are my husband's property.

HENRY WILLIAMS (police-constable D 51.) I went to the room, and asked the female for the duplicates of these things—she gave me a bag with twenty-seven duplicates, seven of which relate to these things.

Samuel Fletcher's Defence. I have been brought up for gentlemen's service, but had no work since Christmas—we have been for day together without food or firing, which caused my wife in an evil hour to pawn my landlord's things—we applied to the parish, but got no relief—the blankets was pawned for 4s., to pay our week's rent.


Transported for Seven Years.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1002
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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1002. MARY POWELL was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of March, 51bs. weight of cheese, value 2s.; the goods of Robert Walkington, and another.

CHARLES BRADBROOK . I am in the service of Robert Walking ton and Richard Carr, cheesemongers, in St. George's, Bloomsbury—I receive information on the evening of the 12th of March—I ran after the prisoner and found on her this Dutch cheese, with a mark on it, which I know's by—I had seen it safe not a quarter of an hour before.

Prisoner. I picked it up at the window. Witness. It was in then middle of the shop, not on the retail side—I had not seen her in the shop, as I had but just come down stairs—we have only one person selling in the shop, and he is not here.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1003
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1003. JOHN COLLINS was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of March 2 sheets, value 3s.; 4 pairs of stockings, value 2s.; 1 pair of shoes, value 1d.; 2 handkerchiefs, value 1s.; 1 night-cap, value 6d.; and 1 shirt, collar, value 6d.; the goods of Daniel Flannagan, from his person.

DAVID FLANNAGAN . On the 12th of March, I landed from the ship Liverpool on board which I had been steward—I had a bundle containing all these things—I went to the Queen's Head to get some refreshment, and saw the prisoner there—he drank with me, and then we went out—I had my bundle under my arm—I turned to stop for a moment, and as I did so the prisoner snatched the bundle from me.

Prisoner. Q. Did not you invite me to a friend's house? A. No.

CORNELIUS FOAY (police-constable H 98.) I was outside this house that night, and I saw the prisoner come up—the prosecutor went into the house and the prisoner followed him—about half an hour after the prosecutor came out with the bundle under his arm—he stopped for a moment—the prisoner snatched the bundle and ran away—I pursued and took him with it.

Prisoner. The prosecutor invited me to spend an hour or two with a friend of his named Dubourg in the Minories—I got very much in liquor, and I am very sorry for what occurred—I had been drinking from two or three o'clock in the afternoon till ten or eleven o'clock at night.

GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined Six Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1004
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1004. WILLIAM HOPWOOD was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of March, 7 lbs. weight of coffee, value 12s. 6d. the goods of James Robinson Craney.

JANES ALEXANDER ALLEN . I am porter to James Robinson Craney, of High-street, Shad well. On the 20th of March, I went out with my struck to deliver goods—I lost seven pounds of coffee about six o'clock, and another parcel of four pounds—this is the seven pounds parcel (looking at it.)

JOHN ANDREWS (police-constable K 231.) I was on duty between even and eight o'clock—I saw the prisoner with this bundle under his arm—I asked him what he had got—he said it was no business of mine, and I had no business to see it—I said I should wish to see it—be said it was coffee—I said, "Where did you get it?"—he said that was no business of mine—I took him to the station-house.

Prisoner. By the Commercial-road gate I saw two men running, they dropped this, and I took it up.

GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined Six Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1005
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1005. WILLIAM DAVIS was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of March, 1 range, value 1s., the goods of Thomas Higginbottom.

ELIZA ANN HIGGINBOTTOM . I live with my father, Thomas Higgin-bottom, in Charles-street, Lisson-grove. At a quarter past seven o'clock, on the with of March, I saw the prisoner go into No. 5, which belongs to my father—in a quarter of an hour I saw him come out with the range on his shoulder—I ran half way up the street, and stopped him—I told him to put it down, which he did, and told me to take it home, but I followed him—he struck at me twice with an umbrella—I then followed him to William-street into Stephen-street—where my father came up, and took him—he was then in the act of striking me.

THOMAS HIGGINBOTTOM . I came up, and the prisoner ran off three or four streets—I then took him.

Prisoner. A man told me to go to that street and fetch the range, which he said he had bought—as I was going, this girl came and said it was

her father's—I said a man had bought it, and I was anxious to get it to be man—I put up my hand to keep her off me—I did not strike her—the man was to be at the Castle, at the corner of Chapel Street, New Road—the door of the house was open.

ELIZA ANN HIGGINBOTTOM . He opened the latch of the door, and went in—there was no one there but him.

GUILTY . Aged 30.— Confined Six Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1006
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1006. JAMES DOWNS was indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of March 1 shovel, value 25., the goods of Robert Satchwell.

ROBERT SATCHWELL . I live in Middlesex-street, Somers Ton On the 23rd of March, while I was gone to dinner I lost a shovel from some gravel, where I was digging foundations—this is it—(looking at it.)

GEORGE POWELL . I was looking out of a window opposite the foundation—I saw the prisoner go down, and come up with this shovel—I went to the public-house and told of it—he was followed and taken with this shovel.

GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1007
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1007. FRANCIS DAVIES was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of March, 1 purse, value 4s.; 1 sovereign, 2 half-crowns, 10 shillings, and I sixpence; the goods and monies of William Dimes, from the person of Elizabeth Wintersgill Dimes.

ELIZABETH WINTERSGILL DIMES . I live in Austin Friars, and am the wife of William Dimes. About one o'clock on Saturday, the 31st of March, I was going down St. Botolph's-lane, when I got to the corner of Thames-street two or three people came before me, and an equal number I think behind—I tried to move backwards—I then made a push forwards, and a man behind me gave me a violent push, and I lost a purse from my pocket, which contained a sovereign and about 1l. in silver, to the best of my knowledge—there were two half-crowns—I cannot tell who any of the people were, but I think the prisoner was a man who was behind me.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How lately had you seen the purse A. Immediately before I left home—I had walked to a watchmaker's in Cornhill, and then I went down to this place, which took me eight a twelve minutes—I am sure I had my money in my pocket—I was pursed forwards, and I apologised to a woman that I was pushed agains, I turned and saw one or two persons—I think the prisoner was one.

JAMES CUTHBBRT . I am an officer. About one o'clock on Saturday, the 31st of March, I was in East-cheap—I observed the prisoner and several others—I had known them before—I saw the prosecutrix going down Botolph's-lane—I asked a witness here to follow her—I watched the prisoner and his companions—at the bottom of the lane they all surrounded her—the prisoner was one—they surrounded her purposely, at accident ally.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Are you an officer? Yet—I as Inspector of the watch of Bread-street ward—I don't believe I knew the prisoner before that day—I knew those who were with him—I lost sight of him from eight to ten minutes—I lost sight of the whole of them directly after they had completed their purpose, in my opinion—they left the lady—I went to ask if she had lost any thing—they went down Dark House-lane—I followed them from place to place—I saw four of them together, but the prisoner was not pointed out to me at that time.

THOMAS BARNETT . I reside with Mr. Harford. The officer came and told me to assist him—I walked down Botolph-lane, and I saw the prisoner and four others—I saw the prisoner feel the lady's pocket three times—when they got to the bottom of the lane they all surrounded her—the prisoner got behind the lady, picked her pocket, and handed something to one of his companions—I saw it quite distinctly, and saw him put his hand into her pocket.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you and your friend been getting this case up, since you were before the Magistrate? A. No—I do not exactly know bow long I have been acquainted with Mr. Cuthbert—it might be twelve or eighteen months, or two years, but not three years—I have not been talking to him about this case since I was before the Magistrate.

Q. Have you not talked to Cuthbert about the case this day? A. It if not my business to answer that question—I did not speak to him about it, only he said, I want you such a time at the Old Bailey, and then he said but side what time it was to come on—I have never been out thief-hunting with him—I never was a witness before—I am an orange merchant's man and a cooper—I have been with Mr. Harford ever since I came from a place called Hems worth, eleven miles this side of Portsmouth, and then I was kept by my parents—I saw the prisoner feel the woman's pocket three times—I said that before the Magistrate—what I said was taken down, and read over to me—I signed it—I said before the Magistrate that I saw him feel the lady three times as she was going down the lane—this it my handwriting—(looking at his deposition)—I will not swear to the prisoner's dress, but I will to his face—he had no cape on when he picked the lady's pocket.

JAMES WALTER BREWER . About one o'clock I was in Lime-street passage, and heard a cry of "Stop, thief!"—I saw the prisoner running, and stopped him.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you observe How he was dressed? A. Yes; in a Mackintosh cape, buttoned up to the top.

MR. PHILLIPS to JAMES CUTHBERT. Q. How was the prisoner dressed at the time this lady was robbed? A. In the same way he is now—the same coat and waistcoat—I cannot swear How he was dressed about the neck—I never said I saw him in a Mackintosh cape—I did not see him in that—he was taken in eight or ten minutes, and he had a Mackintosh cape then—I have known Barnett about twelve months—I called on him to watch the parties, because I knew several of them knew me, and that I should have no chance of detecting them—I may have said something to Barnett about this case since we were before the Magistrate, but no particular point—I may have said he must be very particular in what he said, to mind his statement—I would not swear that I did not say it to him.

GUILTY . Aged 24.— Transported for Ten Years.

Sixth Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin,

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1008
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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1008. JANE ROBINSON was indicted for stealing, on the 18th of March, 1 watch, value £2. 10s.; 1 chain, value 3d.; and 1 key, value 3d.; the goods of William Hall, from his person.

WILLIAM HALL . I am a labourer—I have been to sea the most of my life—I live at Deptford. On the 18th of March I went through London to go to Deptford—I fell in with the prisoner in the Mile-end-road—she wished me to go up a turning with her, which I refused, and then she requested

me to go home with her to Bow, which I refused—she made free with my person, and used language to induce me to go with her up a turning for five or ten minutes—I missed my watch—I went to the police officer, and described her—he knew her, and took me to a house near Bow Church, where I found her, and recovered the watch.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. How long is it since you were on the sea? A. I came home last in 1824—I have lived at Deptford and Sheerness a good while—I asked the woman where she lived—she said by the side of Bow Church, and gave me the name of Reynolds—I went to her residence with the policeman—she came out of the house—she did not give her right address, because she told me it was the first turning, and it was up an alley further on—I did not take the officer up there—I merely asked where she lived to get rid of her, and said I would call the next day—I did not go down a turning with her—I had 23s. or 24s.—it was four o'clock in the morning—I had been up all night, keeping watch as the bridge at Stratford—I met her in the high road, between the Globe bridge and Bow Church.

WILLIAM TILLEY (police-constable K 218.) The prosecutor came to me and described the prisoner—I knew her quite well, as she walked my beat regularly every night—I took him to the house where she lived, and asked her where the watch was that she stole from this man—she denied it—I was in the house a quarter of an hour, she then said she had got kit—she went into the back yard, took it off the wall, brought it in, and gave it to me—she said he promised to give her a half-crown, and she took the watch in place of payment.

Cross-examined. Q. Did she not say she took it in payment? look at this deposition, and read the first line. A. I said to the Magistrate that she took the watch in payment.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1009
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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1009. HENRY JAMES was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of January, 1 painting and frame, value£4., the goods of Edward Radclyffe.

EDWARD RADCLYFFE . Hive in High-Holborn, and am a picture deals On the 3rd of January I saw this picture in the window, between seven and eight o'clock in the evening—I did not miss it till next morning at eight o'clock—this is the picture—it is "Time flying away with Beauty"—it was framed.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you know the prisoner? A. No—I do not know a man of the name of Thomas—I have used a great deal of pains to inquire about the prisoner, and the police have done the same, and I have heard nothing against him—I understand he is a literary character, and the world is much indebted to him—ray shop is about a quarter of a mile from the pawnbroker's.

JOHN BARKER . I live with the prosecutor. I remember this picture being in the shop between five and six o'clock on the 3rd of January.

MARMADUKE JACKSON HOWLETT . I am in the service of Mr. Hedger, a pawnbroker, of Drury-lane. This picture was brought on the 3rd of january by the prisoner—he wanted a sovereign for it, and we lent it him—he gave his name on the ticket—I cannot say what it was—I am sure he is the person who left it—on the 25th of March, when he came again to the shop for an affidavit, which we give when a duplicate is lost, I recollected him, and sent for an officer, who took him.

WILLIAM RANDALL (police-serjeant F 8.) I apprehended the prisoner—on his way to the station-house he told me he had pledged the picture, but that he purchased it of a man—I asked his name—he said he could not tell me—I asked if he knew him—he said he never had any acquaintance with him—on the way he dropped some duplicates down an area, and in the station-house some more, which related to some books and umbrellas.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you say before the Magistrate that he said he purchased it of a man, and did not know his name? A. Yes, but it was hot entered, I believe, in the depositions—I asked him if he could tell me the man that he purchased it of—he said he did not know the name, as he never had much acquaintance with him—I said, "If you can show me where he lives, I will take you to him"—he said he purchased it of a friend, but he did not know the name—I found 1l. 12s. 6d. on him.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1010
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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1010. ANN JOHNSON was indicted for uttering counterfeit coin; which she pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined One Year.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1011
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1011. JAMES DONOVAN was indicted for a misdemeanor.

THE HON. MR. SCARLETT and MR. THOMPSON conducted the Prosecution.

ELIZABETH LEWIS . I am in the milk business, and reside at New Wall, white-friars. On the 9th of March the prisoner came to my house, between three and four o'clock, and asked for 1d. worth of milk, and offered me a sixpence—I looked, and said it was bad—he then gave me a good one—I gave him 5 1/2 d.—the officers entered my shop at that time, and took him into custody—they showed me three sixpences, and they took from the prisoner's hand the 5yd., and the sixpence which he had first offered me—I believe it was the same, because it was a little bent.

WILLIAM ISBESTER . I am a surveyor of the Thames Police. I was with Gaskin on the 9th of March—I saw the prisoner, and followed him down the alley where this witness lives—I went into the shop, and took from his left hand a counterfeit sixpence—I found on him three other counterfeit sixpences—here is the one I took from him—the other three were wrapped up in paper.

COURT. Q. What other money had he about him? A. Five penny-pieces, and 5 1/2 d. in halfpence.

JOHN GASKIN . I have heard the testimony of Isbester—it is correct—I found these three sixpences on the prisoner—(producing them)—wrapped up in fine paper—I found in his pocket one good sixpence, and five penny-pieces, and in his right hand 5 1/2 d. in copper.

JOHN FIELD . I am Inspector of Coin to the Mint. I have looked at these four sixpences—they are all counterfeit, and all from the same mould.

GUILTY . Aged 60.— Confined One Year.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1012
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1012. MARY M'GUIRE was indicted for a misdemeanor.

THE HON. MR. SCARLETT and MR. THOMPSON conducted the Prosecution.

ROBERT SAMUEL BAUGHTON . I am in the service of George Hitchcock, who keeps the Jacob's Well, in Barbican. The prisoner came in there on Wednesday, the 28th of February—she asked for a pint of beer—I served her—she tendered me a half-crown—I gave her change, and put the half-crown

into the till—the beer came to 1 1/2 d.—there was a waiter, of the name of Sims, at that house—he opened the till within ten minutes after the prisoner had the beer, and said, "This half-crown is a bad one"—I got up, and took it out myself—I saw it was bad—there was not another of any description in the till—nobody had been to the till during the minutes—at eleven o'clock the same night the prisoner came again, and asked the waiter for a pint and a half of four penny ale, and tendered; half-crown—I heard Sims say it was bad—I got up and took it—I put them both together, and sent for a policeman, and gave her in charge—I sealed the half-crowns up in a paper—I put a mark on them first, and gave them to the policeman—there was a great difference in the prisoner's dress—she had a dark shawl and bonnet on the first time, and the next time only a little white shawl, and no bonnet, as if she came from not door—I can swear to her, from her face—there was a mark on her nose that night.

GEORGE SIMS . I am waiter at the Jacob's Well. The prisoner came for a pint and a half of fourpenny ale—she gave me a bad half-crown—this was between ten and eleven o'clock at night—I had not seen her before—I examined the half-crown, and put it on the bar-door—Mr. Baughton took it, and put them both together.

GEORGE HITCHCOCK . I keep the house. I saw the prisoner come these twice, on the 28th of February—I detained her the last time, and got policeman—she paid for the ale in copper, and then wanted the half-crown break—she had 1 1/2 d. more, I believe.

JAMES REDWOOD . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner—I get these two half-crowns from Mr. Baughton—the prisoner had 1 1/2 d., in copper on her—she refused to tell me where she lived—she was very made intoxicated, I was forced to get an officer to assist me to take her to the watch-house.

MR. FIELD. These are both counterfeit, and from the same mould.

Prisoner, I was there but once, and offered the half-crown, not knowing it was bad—I got it from a man outside, who asked me to get some beer—when I came out the man was gone.

GUILTY . Aged 36.— Confined One Year.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1013
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1013. MARY SMITH was indicted for a misdemeanor.

SARAH ANN CHATTERS . I am the wife of Jeffrey Chatters—he is a porter, and keeps a chandler's shop in Featherstone-street. I recollect Thursday, the 8th of March, the prisoner came to my shop about tins o'clock—she had a few small articles, bread, tea, and sugar—they came to about—she gave me a shilling—I gave her the change, and she went away—I put the shilling into the till—there were two more in, this made the third—she came about four o'clock the same day—she then had some bread, tea, sugar, and butter, which came to about 4d. or 5d.—she offered a shilling in payment—I put it into the same till—I recollect her coming again about five o'clock—she then bought some bread, tea, sugar, and become which came to about 6d.—she offered a shilling, which I added to the others and gave her change—that would make about five shillings in the till, not more—she came a fourth time that day, about half-past five o'clock—she then had a pound of bread, which was 1 3/4 d.—she offered a crown-piece, which I placed in another till, on the other side of the shop, and gave her change—my husband came home about seven or eight o'clock, which was about two

hours after, she came the last time—I went out after that, and when I came back, he said he had taken two bad shillings from the till, where I put the shillings—I had not taken a shilling from any other person from the time the prisoner first came—I recollect the morning subsequent to that—I went to the till where I placed the crown, took it out to examine it, and found it a bad one—I examined the till where the shillings were kept, and found a third bad shilling there.

JURY. Q. Where did you give the change of the five-shilling piece from? A. From another till on the opposite side.

MR. SCARLETT. Q. You had two tills? A. Yes; and I put the crown in to one till, and gave change out of that till for it—it was not the one I put into shillings in.

JEFFERY CHATTERS . I returned home on the 8th of March—my wife rent out after I came home—no one went to the till before me—I went soon after my wife went out—there were four or five shillings in the till—I found two bad ones—I took them out, looked at them, and put them in again, separate from the other money—I left the whole of the shillings in the till—there were two or three besides the two I picked out—I believe there was one more bad one, which my wife found the next morning—I did not get a bad crown from my wife then, but I did on the Saturday—I put it into my pocket, and showed it to the policeman—I gave him the shillings and the crown piece, on the 10th of March—I had had some communication with Mr. Fobbester.

CHARLES FOBS EATER . I am servant to Mr. Chambers, a greengrocer, in Bunhill-row. On the 10th of March the prisoner came in for two red herrings—she offered me a shilling—they came to 1 1/2 d.—I took the shilling into the parlor, and showed it to ray mistress—she tried it first, and then I bent it with my teeth—I ascertained it was a bad one, and gave it back to the prisoner, and she said, "Bless me, it is a bad one"—I asked her for it back again, and said I would nail it to the door-post, and she returned it to me—she then went away, and promised to come back, and pay for the herrings—she did not come back—Mr. Chatters came to the shop that night, and told me of his case—I gave the shilling to the policeman.

JAMES JOHN EMXS . I am a policeman. I called on Chatters on the 10th of March, and got a crown-piece and three bad shillings from him, and one from Fobbester—I went to a house in Featherstone-court, and found the prisoner in bed with a man—a sergeant, who was with me, found a tad shilling in the room.

CHARLES SCOTCHMEN . I am a police-sergeant I went with Ernest to this room, and found this counterfeit shilling on a chair.

MR. FIELD. These are all counterfeit, the crown and the shillings, and three of them are from one mould—the one passed to Fobbester, the one found at the prisoner's house, and one of the others.

Prisoner. It was money that was given to me—I did not know it was bad.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined One Year.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1014
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1014. WILLIAM COLE was indicted for a misdemeanor.

CAROLINE HANNAH JACQUES . I am the wife of James Jacques, a pastry cook and confectioner, at Shadwell. On the 24th of February the prisoner

came to my shop, between three and four o'clock in the afternoon—he had a penny bun, and gave me a sixpence—I gave him 5 d. in copper—I placed the sixpence at the hack of the till, where there were shillings, half, crowns, and two new sixpences—there was not more than two new sixpences—I noticed the sixpence he gave me was dirty, and as he was to him working dress I thought that was the cause—Susan Duncan came in for sixpenny worth of cakes—it was about five o'clock—she gave me a half crown—I gave her one shilling and two sixpences—one of them was the sixpence that the prisoner had given me—I am sure of it, because I had only three sixpences in the till, and that was the only one I had, except two new ones—she came back to my shop, and said I had given her a bad sixpence—I said I was very sorry for it; I had taken it of a boy in a fustian jacket—I had suspected it was bad, but did not know it—I took it into the parlour, and gave it into my husband's hand—he said it was bad—I took it and put it on the inkstand—Burgess came into the shop—I marked the same sixpence, and gave it him—he afterwards showed me bun, which was my husband's make.

SUSAN DUNCAN . I live in Cross-alley, Shad well. I went for sixpenny. worth of cakes, and saw Mrs. Jacques—she gave me the cakes—I gave her a half-crown—she gave me one shilling and two sixpences—one new, the other old—I went to the grocer's, at the corner of Star and Garter yard, and offered the old sixpence—the gentleman said it was bad—it was not out of my sight—he never laid it down—I took it back to Mrs. Jacques, and she gave me another.

EMMA BALTON . My father is a baker, in Ratcliff-highway. The prisoner came to our shop on the 24th of February, for a penny loaf—I gave it him—he laid down a sixpence—I thought it was bad, and I took it to if father—he said it was good—I gave the prisoner the change—I laid in the shelf, and then showed it to my mother—she said it was bad—I gave it to the policeman—I am sure it was the same—my mother marked it—gave saw another officer with the loaf—it was my father's make, and the same sort that I sold the prisoner.

RACHEL BAGSNT . I am the wife of Isaac Bagent—he keeps an eating house at East Smithfield. On the 24th of February the prisoner came for a penny-worth of pudding—he gave me a sixpence—I bent it—was bad—I gave it to the officer.

CHARLES RANDYLL . lam a policeman. I was in Bagent'shop on the 24th of February—I learned something, and pursued the prisoner—I saw him on Tower Hill, with another man, against whom the bill has beet thrown out—they walked on together over Tower Hill—I took them up searched Cole, and found on him this counterfeit sixpence, (produce one,) which is bent—I also took Davis—I saw the pastry and bun found on him—they were afterwards shown to the different people, and they owned them.

RICHARD BURGESS . I am a policeman. I assisted Randyll—I found the things that have been described on Davis, also 3s. 6d., some thread and other things—I got the sixpence from Mrs. Jacques.

MR. FIELD. These are both counterfeit, and from the same mould.

Prisoner. I bought a penny worth of fish—they gave me four sixpences out of a half-crown—I did not know they were bad.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1015
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1015. JOHN BROWN was indicted for a misdemeanor.

GEORGE BOORN . I live with my mother at ford, near the Three pigeons. On the 5th of March I had a stall of fish in High-street, Bow—the prisoner came to ray stall, between eight and nine o'clock at night, and asked the price of several fish, and then waited till I served two people—he wanted me to take 3d. for a Dutch plaice, but I would not—he theft Offered 3 1/2 d—I would not take it—he said he would give me 4d.—he gave Me 1s., and I gave him change—it was the only shilling I took that day—my mother said it was a bad one—I said I should know the person again—I saw him at the station-house, and knew him—it was the prisoner.

Cross-examined by Mr. PAYNE. Q. Had you ever seen him before? A. yes, going up and down the road.

MART BOORN . I have heard what my son says—I saw the shilling was bad when he gave it to me—I gave the same shilling the next morning to the policeman.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you not another shilling? A. No, not one.

JOHN PARKER (police-constable K 288.) On Tuesday, the 6th of March, received a shilling from Mary Boorn—on the 14th of March I took George Boorn to the station, and he knew the prisoner directly.

ELIZA ANN POOLE . I am servant to Mr. Denton, the eating-house keeper—on the 14th of March the prisoner came and asked for a pennyworth of putting, and gave me a shilling—I showed it to my master—he said it was a bad one, and he took it.

WILLIAM DENTON . Poole brought me a bad shilling—I took it back to the prisoner, and said it was bad—he said, "Is it?"—I laid, "Yes"—he gave me a sixpence out of his pocket, which was good—I gave him change for that—the officer came in at that moment and took the prisoner and the shilling.

EDWARD SHAW (police-sergeant K 14.) I produce a shilling given to me by William Denton—I took the prisoner in charge.

HENRY MULLINS . I am a police-sergeant. I searched the prisoner on the 14th, and found on him 1s. in silver, and 9d. in copper.

MR. FIELD. These shillings are both counterfeit.

Cross-examined. Q. Are they from the same mould? A. No, they are not.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY .— Confined Six Months.

NEW COURT.—Friday, April 6th, 1838.

Sixth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1016
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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1016. ANN BUSH was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of March, 6lbs. weight of pork, value 4 the goods of Henry Rogers, to which she pleaded.

GUILTY .— Confined Six Days.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1017
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment; Imprisonment

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1017. ELIZA JONES, THOMAS JONES, JOHN TREADAWAY and MARY ANN SMITH , were indicted for a midemeanor.

THE HON. Mr. SCARLETT and MR. THOMPSON conducted the Prosecution.

MARY THRUSSELL . I am the wife of John Thrussell, who keeps the Mar.

quis of Granby public-house, Green Hill, near Harrow. On the 26th of February these four prisoners came in, about twelve o'clock, and had two pots of beer, which they paid for in coppers—they had something to eat, which they brought with them—they eat and drank together—the two female asked me to show them into the yard—they then asked me if I sold gin—I said "Yes "—Eliza Jones asked me to bring half-a-quartern, which I gave than—they drank it in the yard, and Eliza Jones offered a half-crown—I took it to the bar—Mary Ann Smith was present when she offered it—I laid it on the table in the bar—my husband came in soon after, and took it up marked it, and put it into his pocket—the prisoners had then left the hose—they went out as near together as possible—the two women went out first but only just in time for the men to follow them as quickly as the does would admit of—my husband went in his horse and cart to Mow the prisoners.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Where were the women when Eliza Jones gave you this half-crown? A. In the yard—the men were in the tap-room, not in the same place.

JOHN THRUSSELL . I saw the four prisoners drinking beer and eating in the tap-room, all together—after they were gone out, I saw a half crown on the table in the bar—I marked it, and put it into my pocket—here it is—I went about a mile and a half before I overtook them—I first at saw Treadaway standing at the corner, just against Hill's house, where there roads met—Mr. Rowe, who was with me, got out to go to Hill's house,—just as he was going there, Jones came out with a pipe—he was followed by Hill and Rowe—I beckoned that they were the two men—Jones came to Treadaway, and Rowe collared them—I had asked Tread away if he would ride in the cart—I assisted in taking them—they got away from Rowe, and ran round the corner—we all pursued them—Tread away struck at Rowe—when they resisted, I got out of my cart to help them, and collared Treadaway, while they searched Jones, who kicked at them—then there came more assistance, and the two men were taken to the Led Lion—I went in pursuit of the women, and found them four or five hundred yards further down the road—I asked if they would ride, they refused—I said, "I shall take the liberty of handing you into my cart, and taking you to town"—they went, and were taken to the Magistrate.

Cross-examined. Q. Was not Tread away walking by himself? A. He was at that time—there were very few persons in my house that day—there might be three or four, besides them.

HON. Mr. SCARLETT. Q. How far is it from Hill's to where Tread away was standing? A. It might be 200 or 300 yards.

Thomas Jones. Q. Which of us four went out of the door first? A. The two women, and you followed instantly.

JOHN WATTS HILL . I am a baker and beer-seller, and live at Harrow On the 26th of February Thomas Jones came to my shop, and asked for half-a-pint of beer—I served him—he offered a shilling which was bad I said, "This won't do"—he said, "Why not?"—I said, "Because it is a bad one "—he wanted to look at it, and said it was a good one—he gave me another—a person of the name of Rowe came in—Jones had left my shop a few minutes—from an observation that Rowe made, I accompanied him to the road—Thomas Jones was walking down the road, and Treadaway was waiting—they joined before we got to them, about 200 Yards from my house—I assisted Thrussell and Rowe in taking the prisoner

—a violent resistance was made by both—they scuffled and got away a short distance—we ran and took them again—I was passing with my horse and cart, where Darville was digging in a ditch on the 2nd of March, and he said he had found a shilling—that was as near as possible on the spot where I had captured the prisoners.

MARY CHAPMAN . I am the wife of William Chapman, of Green-hill, near Harrow, and keep a chandler's shop. On the 26th of February I saw, Thomas Jones betwixt one and two o'clock—be came for a penny-worth of tobacco, and gave me a bad shilling—I did not see that it was bad immediately—I gave him the change, and asked him if it was good or bad—be said it was very good—I saw it was George the Third's reign—two minutes after a man came in with herrings, and he said it was bad—I marked it and pat it into a bit of paper—I now produce it—I had put it into my pocket, but I had no other shilling—I marked the shilling and saw it at the office.

JAMES ROWE . I am a farmer. On the 26th of February I accompanied Thrussell and took the two male prisoners—they resisted—I took. Jones—I saw Thomas Jones take up a stone and throw it into a ditch—I saw John Watte Hill look towards the ditch—Thomas Jones said, "What are you looking for there?"—I took them to the Red Lion, and found on Treadaway about 9s. in silver, and some coppers, all good—Thomas Jones had 11d.—as I was going into Hill's house, I met Thomas Jones coming out—I was going to inquire whether two females were there, but they were not—the stone was thrown after they had got from me—I bad taken them,. but Thrussell's horse went off, and he let Treadaway go, and they got from me, and then Thomas Jones threw the stone into the ditch—if there had been any thing else thrown, I do not think I should Have seen it.

WILLIAM DARVILLE . I am a labourer, living in the Harrow-road On the 27th of February I was clearing out a ditch near that place—I found five shillings first—I went back to the ditch, and found twelve half-crowns and thirteen shillings more—I took them up and kept them till the Friday following—I then gave them. to the Magistrate's clerk at Edge ware—he sealed them 'up in a paper, and gave them me back again—I kept them till Friday—I then gave them to him again—I first found the money wrapped up in a bit of paper—I cut the paper in two, and. it tumbled down into the water with the money—I found another shilling about twenty yards from there on the Thursday following—I kept it till Friday, and then gave it to Mr. Hill.

JOHN WATTS HILL re-examined. I have a parcel which I got from Mr. Tudell, the Magistrate's clerk—Darville produced it—it was sealed up by Tudell, given back to Darville, and at their re-examination it was opened, and given by Mr. Tudell to me for security, by order of the Bench—it was laid on the Magistrates' table.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you in the office all life time? A. No, I went out while they were examined.

MR. POWELL. I was present before the Magistrate—I saw some counterfeit money produced by Hill on the day they were committed for trial—Hill brought the money into the Court—a man named Darville had possession of the money at first, because he swore that he had found it in a ditch—I saw it produced on the table on the day they were committed, by Darville, and it was then taken possession of by Hill,

sealed up in a paper—when it was produced I saw the seal broken—believe it was placed on the table before the Magistrate, and Hill after him examination, took it—I do not know that it was delivered to him.

Cross-examined. Q. What are you in the Mint? A. Assistant to the Solicitor and the Inspector of Coins—my father came out of this Court to fetch me in to be a witness—he told me that I was wanted in this case—he said, "Was you present on the examination of these people?"—I said, "Yes"—he said, "Then you are wanted in Court," that was all—he did not ask me on what examination—I did not know that I was coming to prove this was the money—I came here without knowing what for—I said Hill produced it, because I thought he did, but I recollect that Darville was the man who found it—I dare say I recollected that from your first mentioning the name of Darville—I was not out of the office—I was there as soon as the prisoners were in—I will not swear that Darville was not in the room before me—the money was produced on the table—I do not know that I was given either to the Magistrate or the clerk—I do not know that he gave it to any one in particular—Mr. Tudell was sitting next to the Magistrate.

COURT. Q. Were you present when the seal was broken? A. Yes—I believe I broke it open myself, to look at the money—I was there till it was sealed up again—Darville brought the money in—I believe there was only one person with it—I saw but one—there were a number of persons is the room.

JOHN FIELD . I am Inspector of Coins to Her Majesty's Mint, and have been so many years. This coin is all counterfeit—the half-crowns appear to have been cast in the same mould as the one first passed, and five or six of these shillings appear of the same mould as the one produced by Chapman—six or seven of them are of the same mould as the one that was found in the ditch.

Cross-examined. Q. Is not this first half-crown one that they might very easily pass on an illiterate person? A. Yes, I think it is.

MR. PHILLIPS to JOHN THRUSSELL. Q. Did you take Treadaway to the station-house? A. No, the constable did—he is not here—I believe Treadaway was discharged, and taken again.

Thomas Jones's Defence. I never saw this other man before, if I were to die this moment—the money was sunk three or four inches in the bank—I could not throw it so far as that.

ELIZA JONES— GUILTY .— Confined Six Months.

THOMAS JONES— GUILTY .— Confined One Year.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1018
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1018. GEORGE GERRARD was indicted for a misdemeanor.

FREDERICK DARBEY . I am shopman to Mr. Ward, tobacconist, in Oxford-street. About twenty minutes past ten o'clock at night, on the 14th of March, the prisoner came into the shop, went to the glass where we keep cigars, and selected one—he put down a good half-crown, and as I was going to give him change, he said he thought he had halfpence enough—I heard some halfpence rattle in his coat pocket—he said he had but three halfpence, and he then put down a bad half-crown—I gave him 2s. 4d. change—I bent the half-crown, and took hold of him—two persons came out of the parlour—I went and got a constable.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Did he appear to be sober.? A.

He pretended to be very tipsy—if he had gone out immediately after I should have supposed that he was tipsy—I heard a lot of halfpence rattle in his pocket when he put his hand in.

MR. THOMPSON. Q. When he was given in charge did you see any alteration in his manner? A. He did not seem to be tipsy at all—I chucked down the half-crown on the counter, and he snatched it up, and put it behind him, and they could not get it from him for some time—I do not think he was drunk—I saw the half-crown was bad, but I did not take it off the counter till I gave him the change.

HUGH BYRNE LEVETT (police-constable D 161.) I went to the prosecutor's shop, and saw a half-crown on the counter—the prisoner snatched from the counter—I got it again after some difficulty—it was picked up and given to me—I produce it—I took the prisoner into the parlour—he appeared excited on my first appearance, but when I had been there two or three minutes he appeared quite sober—I found on him a purse containing twenty-nine sovereigns, one half-sovereign, and some silver; making altogether in silver in his purse and pockets, 29s.—there were three half-crowns, nineteen shillings, three sixpences, three fourpences, all good; and in his coat pocket, twelvepence-halfpenny, a gold watch, a silver chain, split ring and key—on the way to the station he said, "It is but one piece, to-morrow is Thursday, Mr. Powell knows me."

Cross-examined. Q. Had you mentioned Mr. Powell's name? A. No—so a syllable on the subject.

MR. FIELD. This half-crown is counterfeit in all respects.

COURT to FREDERICK DARLEY. Q. What pocket did he put his hand to? A. His left-hand coat pocket—that was the same pocket as the copper was taken out of afterwards—I believe there was no handkerchief or paper in that pocket.

HUGH BYRNE LETETT . There was no handkerchief in that pocket, nor paper.

GUILTY .* Aged 21.— Confined One Year.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1019
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1019. JULIAN SOMERVILLE, alias Francis Alexander Randall was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of March, 661bs. weight of tea, value 15l., and 1 tea-chest, value 15s.; the goods of Daniel Deacon, and others.

JOSEPH WILLIAM LOVERING . I am a carman in the service of Daniel Deacon, and others. I was driving a wagon of theirs on the 17th of March, about nine o'clock at night, through Oxford-street—I stopped at Charles-street, went to the back of the wagon, and missed a chest of tea, which I had from Fickson & Co., in Queen-street—it was directed to go by Daniel Deacon—it had been on the front of the wagon—my mate was asleep on the top of the wagon.

GEORGE UNSWORTH . I live in Hanway-street, and am a china-dealer On that Saturday, about nine o'clock, I was in Oxford-street, and saw the prisoner reach a box from the wagon—I am certain he is the man—in crossing the road a driver of an omnibus called to him, and a hat fell—he did not stop, but went on—I followed him through Hanway-street—I there saw a policeman—I told him, and the tea was taken on the prisoner's shoulders.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Which side of the street were

you? A. On Hanway-street side—the wagon was on the opposite side about seven or eight yards from me—the wagon was close to the pavement on the other side, three doors from Charles-street, and nearly opposite Hanway-street—it was light enough to see the prisoner for he passed me within a yard—I saw a hat fall, and when he passed me his head was bare, that I am quite positive of—I saw another person pick up the hat, it was a black one—the person who had the chest of tea, went up through Hanway street—it winds up to Tottenham-court-road, so that a person cannot see from one end to the other—I never lost sight of the prisoner—the same policeman is here now—I saw no other vehicle passing besides the omnibus.

COURT. Q. How long elapsed between the time of your seeing the man take the chest, and your seeing the prisoner carrying it with his hat of A. Not more than two minutes—I did not lose sight of him the whole time except just the time of the omnibus passing, and it was not above a minute from the time of his passing me, till he was taken.

AARON WOOSTER . I am in the service of Fickson and Co., of Queen-street, grocers. On the 17th of March I sent a chest of tea to Leicester for William Johnson—it was going by Deacon's wagon—Lovering was the wagoner—it contained 60lbs. of tea—this is the chest—(looking at it.)

Cross-examined. Q. How do you know it? A. By the number (1186) on the card, and on the wood.

COURT. Q. Have you any doubt that that is the chest? A. No; one of our clerk's writing is on the card—I am sure of it—it was corded in this way.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. How many hundred chests do you send out in a year? A. I cannot tell—the square ones are all corded in this way—it is the warehouseman's business to make the entries in the books—I am a poster—I carried it from the warehouse, and put it into the wagon—we only sent that one chest off that evening—the warehouseman gives me a note of it, and I give it to the wagoner—I do not always read the addresses, but I did that one, before I nailed it on—I cannot tell what any other address was—his address is "William Johnson, Leicester"—he is not a carrier—I have looked at the direction on the chest to-day.

COURT. Q. You nailed that one on that day? A. Yes; I nailed no other to "William Johnson, Leicester," that day.

JOHN ANSER WHEELER . I am principal clerk to Daniel Deacon, and others. He has other partners.

Cross-examined. Q. How many are there? A. I should think somewhere near twenty—William Johnson, of Leicester, is a customer of ours—this would not be entered in the carman's book till it gets to the wharf, but we are answerable for it from the moment it is delivered to our servant.

EDWARD CAMPION (police-constable E 45.) I took the prisoner with this tea on his shoulder, twenty yards down Great Russell-street.

Cross-examined. Q. What did you find on his head? A. Nothing—no cap—he had the bosom of his coat buttoned, and from the bosom of his coat he took a cap.

MR. CLARKSON to JOSEPH WILLIAM LOVERING. Q. Where was the wagon standing? A. In Oxford-street, on this side of Charles-street—I was at the near hind wheel—my partner is not here—he was lying on some harness asleep—the harness was in the tail of the wagon, a yard or a yard and a half from the chest—it was put in edgeways between the rail and half a

butt of currants—I could not reach it myself to take it off—I was two minutes at the utmost at the tail of the wagon—I called three times to my date when I missed it, and he answered me—I did not lose a hat. Witness for the Defence.

THOMAS MORGAN . I keep the Robin Hood, Shoe-lane. The prisoner was at my house that Saturday evening about six o'clock—he had a small parcel in his hand—I always understood him to be a light porter—he had cap on his head, which he generally wears—I should say this, was the same sort of cap—(looking at one.)

COURT. Q. How long have you lived there? A. Very nearly a year and a half—I am the proprietor.

Prisoner. I am innocent of this charge as any man living—I received at the corner of Great Russell-street, and I had this cap on at the time, and had no other on my head at all.

GUILTY . Aged 46.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1020
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1020. WILLIAM TOWNSEND was indicted for stealing on the 3rd April, one sheet, value 2s., the goods of William Perry.

JANE PERRY . I am the wife, of William Perry, and keep a lodging-house, near Gravel-lane. On the 3rd of April the prisoner came to lodge at my house—the next morning, between eight and nine o'clock, I followed him out, and asked if he had not got a sheet of mine—he said no—I asked him to come back, and he did; and while the girls were gone for a policeman, he took my sheet out of his hat—this is mine—(looking at one.,)

Prisoner's Defence. I took it because I was very hungry.

GUILTY . Aged 29.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1021
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1021. JOHN BETTS was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of March, handkerchief, value 1s. 6d. the goods of John Dixon, from his person; and that he had been before convicted of felony.

JOHN DIXON . I keep the Rose and Crown, King-street, Westminster. I was at Broad Sanctuary on the 17th of March, about a quarter-past twelve o'clock at noon—somebody gave me information—I missed my handkerchief, and saw the prisoner walking away, twisting it up—I said "Stop, I want you"—he ran off—a man ran and took him—he threw the witness, Facey, down against the railings—we pursued him again, and he tried to throw the handkerchief into the square, but the wind took it, and we picked it up—this is it—(looking at it.)

JAMES FACEY . I saw the prisoner running, and I took hold of him—he threw me down—we pursued him again, and he threw down this handkerchief.

Prisoner. It was a temptation; the gentleman had the handkerchief hangin out of his pocket.

JOHN BOOTH . I am a watchman. I got this certificate of the prisoner's former conviction from Mr. Gilby's office, at Westminster—(read)—he is the person.

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Ten Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1022
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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1022. SIMON JENKINS and WILLIAM PERRY were indicted for a misdemeanor.

THE HON. MR. SCARLETT and MR. THOMPSON conducted the Prosecution.

MATTHEW HAMILTON , I live in Charlton-street, Somers-town, and am

a wholesale milliner. On the 31st of March I was in Charlton-street and saw the two prisoners together in company—they passed me, and Jenkins said to the other, "I will go into the green-grocer's shop"—the other said "It is no use going into that shop, it is a stale game there"—Jenkins went in, and Perry waited close by my side till Jenkins came out, and went away—Perry waited some time by me, then followed him returned, and came and stood by me—Jenkins went down a passage—went into Osbaldeston's shop immediately after the prisoners had left me and gave a description of them to a policeman instantly.

MARY ANN OSBALDESTON . I live in Charlton-street, and keep a green grocer's shop. The prisoner Jenkins came to my shop for some on one and then asked me to let him have twopenny-worth of turnip-tops—he gave me a half-crown—I did not look at it particularly—I took up my apron to give him change—he said, "I think I have got halfpence"—he put his hand into his pocket, and said he had not enough, he must give me a half-crown—he then took four or five half-crowns out of his pocket and gave me one—Hamilton came in soon after, and asked if it was a good one, and I then found it was not—I gave it to the officer.

WILLIAM HONEY (police-constable S 151.) On the 31st of March I was Church-way—I followed the prisoners from a description I had got of them—I saw them about a quarter before twelve o'clock, and stopped them—they were walking quite quickly—I told a man to follow me—the moment I took them, Jenkins dropped a half-crown, which I took up—this is it—Jenkins pretended to be drunk, but when I got him into the station-house he appeared sober—I found 1 1/4 d. on Jenkins, and 19s. 6d., and 11 1/2 d. in copper, on Perry, with twopenny-worth of turnip-tops tied up in a handkerchief, nine eggs, half an ounce of tobacco, and about half an ounce of tea.

Jenkins. Q. How many people might be round? A. I cannot tell—it was a market evening, and it is a great thoroughfare—no persons noticed me following them that I could see—I do not suppose that there were five round us—I saw the half-crown drop from your hand.

JOHN FIELD . I am Inspector of coin to the Mint. These half-crown are both counterfeit, and from the same mould.

Perry's Defence. I have known Jenkins three or four years—I met him that evening—he asked me to wait for him a few minutes—I said I would—as to the conversation that the witness states passed it is all false—I then went to the Regent's Park, but my master's factory was shut up—we returned, and got drinking.

PERRY— GUILTY . Aged 25.


Confined one year.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1023
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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1023. JOHN CLEMENTS was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of March, 5 spoons, value 1l. 5s.; 2 sovereigns, 8 half-crowns, 15 shillings, 3 sixpences, and 1 fourpenny-piece; the goods and monies of John Wilson, his master; and that he had been before convicted of felony; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 14.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1024
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1024. ANDERSON JEFFREY was indicted for stealing, on the 4th of March, 1 work-box, value 5s. 6d., the goods of Thomas Perry.

CHARLOTTE PERRY . I am the wife of Thomas Perry, he keeps a

broker's shop in Upper Rosoman-street. On the 4th of March, between one and two o'clock, I was in my room, and was called—I went into the shop, and a boy wanted to know the price of a box—I saw the prisoner take up this work-box at the door, and run away with it—I have never seen it since—I am sure he is the boy—I knew him before—the other boy was taken, but he was discharged yesterday.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Do you know the boy Negus? A. Yes, some years—I got no information from him—I have known the prisoner, I think, two years, to speak to him—I do not know the boy Murcott—I had him taken up—he was in the shop talking to me, while the prisoner went off with the box, and he stopped me from running out, or else I should have caught the prisoner—the Magistrate asked me if I knew the boy, and I said yes, I knew him well—I do hot know whether that was taken down and read over to me—I did not see Jeffrey when I ran out of the shop, I lost sight of him.

MARY ANN SMITH . I saw the prisoner run from Mrs. Perry's with the box under his arm.

Cross-examined. Q. What day of the month was this? A. The 3rd or 4th—I do not know exactly—it was in the month of March, on a Saturday—I had known the prisoner before—I told the Magistrate so. (The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY. Aged 15.—Recommended to mercy .— Confined Six Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1025
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation; Not Guilty > unknown

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1025. ELIZABETH PATCHING and FRANCIS LEWIS were indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of February, at St. George, Hanover-square, £20, and 1 £5 bank-note, the property of Samuel Cartwright, in the dwelling-house of Christopher Lonsdale.

MR. DOANE conducted the Prosecution.

FRANCES CARTWRIGHT . I am the wife of Samuel Cartwright. In February last I was residing at Mr. Lonsdale's, in Old Bond-street—the prisoners were both servants in the house—on the 7th of December I received of Mr. Robson, a relative, 200l. in notes and cash—there were five £20 notes, five £10 notes, four £5 notes, and thirty sovereigns—I placed the notes in the banker's book, and put it into the carriage-case In the bed-room—I afterwards removed it, and put it into a drawer—I had expended some—on the 15th of February they were right—there was then 105l.—there were four £20 notes—on the 6th of March I had occasion to go to the drawer—I then missed 55l.—there were only two £20 notes instead of four—I had only 50l. remaining—I am sure they were the notes I had from Mr. Robson—the female prisoner had access to the room where the drawer was—my drawer was not kept locked—I sent for Mrs. Lonsdale, and told her of it, and it was known in the house—the two prisoners were both residing there at the same time.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES. Q. Has your husband any other name but Samuel? A. No—he had not been living in the house—I received the money from Mr. Robson in my own right—Mr. Lonsdale lives in this house, and I suppose he sleeps there, but I never saw him till the night of the 6th of February, when there was a fire at Mr. Atkinson's—I heard that his Christian name was Christopher—I heard that Lewis was one of the porters—I cannot inform you whether he assisted in the domestic duties—there was another female servant—I do not know whether she is here, nor whether she is still in Mr. Lonsdale's service—I put the money into my

carriage-case, and I kept it locked, till the night of the fire, at Mr. Atkinson's and then I put it into my drawer in the bed-room—there was no lock to that drawer—I never looked at the money between the 15th of February and the 6th of March—I do not recollect ever having these notes while sitting on the sofa in the sitting-room—immediately I received them from my nephew, Mr. Robson, I put them into my banker's book, and put that into the carriage-case—I went to them to expend some, I brought them into my sitting-room, took the money out, and made a memorandum of what was left—I sat on a chair by the table, not near the sofa—I can undertake to say, that when I took the book back to my bed-room, the whole of the 105l. were safe—I have no doubt of it.

GEORGE LLOYD ROBSON . I hold a commission in the 5th Dragoon Guards. On the 7th of December I received from my aunt a cheque, and I got these notes—I cannot tell the numbers of them—I received them from a Mr. Owen—I gave the same notes to Mrs. Cartwright.

DAVID OWEN . I am cashier to Martin, Call, Martin and Co., bankers. I remember seeing Robson, on the 7th of December, change a £200 cheque—I gave him five £20 notes, from No. 10502, and I gave him some £10 notes and £5 notes—these are two notes that I paid him—(looking at them.)

THOMAS WHITFORD . I am one of the cashiers of the Bank of England. On Wednesday, the 14th of March, a bank note, No. 10505, for 20l. was brought to me by the prisoner Lewis—he wanted sovereigns for it—I told him, on looking at my card, that payment was stopped, and he must go with me to the Secretary—he said he brought it from Mr. Smith, silversmith, of No. 66, Conduit-street, Bond-street—on the note was written "Thomas Harding, 66, Conduit-street"—that appeared to be fresh written—he then said he had not the number—I said that was no consequence, he could claim it by what he had written on it—he made no reply.

Cross-examined by MR. CHAMBERS. Q. What time in the day was it? A. About four o'clock in the afternoon—it is about a hundred yards from where I was to the Secretary's office—if we find nothing written on the front of a note, it is usual to require something to be written—the Secretary asked him some questions, where he came from, and he told him that this was a stopped note, and then I permitted him to go—we never detain persons—we retain the note, and the parties are to call again.

MR. DOANE. Q. Have you a £5 note? A. Yes, No. 37883—it was paid from Jones, Lloyd, and Co.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES. Q. How do you know it was paid there? A. I have an extract from the bank book—the note is entered in our cash book—I did not receive it myself from Jones, Lloyd, and Co.—I received it from the librarian at the bank.

SAMUEL HUGHES . I am an inspector of the A division of the police. On the 16th of March I went to Mr. Lonsdale's—Lewis was in the drawing-room—Mr. Whitford was with me—he recognised Lewis—in consequence of that Mr. Lonsdale said something to Lewis, and he left the room—he was called back, and Mr. Lonsdale took him by the arm, led him to the fire-place, and said, "Francis"—Lewis said he would explain all—that Elizabeth gave him the note—the bell was then rung, and Patching came into the room—I then told them both that they were in custody for stealing 55l. in bank notes from Mrs. Cartwright—Lewis said, "I will explain all; Elizabeth gave me the note; I did take it to the Bank to get it changed"

—I then went down with Patching; she said, "I found the note last Tuesday, curled up in a bit of paper, in Mrs. Cartwright's room on the sofa; I gave the note to Lewis; I did not tell any one else about it, for fear it might be thought that I had stolen the other money"—I produce some articles here which I found at No. 4, Russell-court, Bow-street, where Lewis said he lived.

Cross-examined by MR. CHAMBERS. Q. When Lewis came in, Mr. Lonsdale spoke very kindly to him? A. Yes; and then he said what I have mentioned, which led to the ringing of the bell for the other prisoner.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES. Q. Did any one else hear what Patching said to you on the stairs? A. No—I took her down, and Lewis came down afterwards—this took place in the drawing-room on the second floor—I did not say any thing to her before she said she found it on the sofa—I made no answer to her—she did not say that she did not know what it was, nor any thing of the kind—she did say she could neither read nor write, and did not know what it was—she did not say she took it to Lewis to ask what it was—I do not recollect that she said, that having given it to Lewis she left it with him—she said, "I went down stairs, and gave it to Lewis,"

MR. DOANE. Q. Are you sure that she said she did not mention it, for fear it should be thought that she had stolen the other money? A. Yes.

REBECCA LANE . I am a lace-dealer, and live in Sidney-alley. The female prisoner came to my shop somewhere about the 20th of February—I am not rare as to the day—this was the first article I sold her—(producing it)—she purchased all these articles—they came to nearly 4l.—she gave me a £5 note in payment—I asked her for her name and address—she said her name was Edwards, 32, Piccadilly—I wrote that on the note in pencil—this is the note and my writing—I have no doubt about it—I am confident the prisoner was the woman.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES. Q. What time in the day was it? A. Between six and seven o'clock in the evening, just about dusk—our lamps were lighted—I do not know, but I think I had seen her a day or two before—I did not know who she was—we always ask the name and address—I am not positive, but I think I saw her a week or two after—it was not so long as a fortnight, I am positive—she purchased a black lace veil and other things—they are sold in other shops—two young ladies and the boy were in the shop—none of them are here—Patching was in the shop half an hour—I do not know exactly, but I can say positively that she was a quarter of an hour.

SAMUEL HUGHES . I saw Mr. Lonsdale at the office—he did not give his name then, but yesterday I heard him give his name as Christopher—his house is in the parish of St. George, Hanover-square.

MR. JONES to MRs. CARTWRIGHT. Q. How long had you lived there? A. Five or six months—Patching had been there all the time—she was not present when I made my loss known—I sent for Mrs. Lonsdale, and told her of it—I never saw Mr. Lonsdale—I believe Mrs. Lonsdale went down and named it.

(Christopher Lonsdale, of No. 26, Old Bond-street, and Caroline Baker, Brewer-street, Pimlico, gave the prisoner Patching a good character.)

PATCHING- GUILTY. Aged 25.—Recommended to mercy .

Transported for Ten Years.


Fifth Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1026
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1026. FRANCIS LEWIS was again indicted for stealing, on the 6th of February, 1 liquor-flask, value 19s.; 2 clothes-brushes, valued 5s.; I looking-glass, value 1s.; 1 razor-strop, value 3s.; 1 tooth-brush, value 1s.; 2 hair-brushes, value 10s.; 1 scent-bottle, value 8s.; 12 pairs of gloves, value 7s.; and 13 combs, value 2l.; the goods of Edward Atkinson and another.

EDWARD ATKINSON . I live in Old Bond-street—I am a perfumer, and have one partner. There was a fire on my premises on the evening of the 6th of February, and such goods as could be saved were removed to the premises of Mr. Lonsdale, opposite—the prisoner was his servant, and was very active in carrying the goods over—a great deal was saved—we missed the articles enumerated in the indictment when our attention was called to them—(looking at them)—here is a liquor-flask, two brushes, a looking-glass, a razor-strop, a scent-bottle, twelve pairs of gloves, and other things—they are the property of myself and partner—I can swear to them—the paper round the gloves has our mark on it—they were safe on the premises on the night of the fire.

Cross-examined by MR. CHAMBERS. Q. You cannot tell they were missed but by your books? A. I can tell by our private marks on them—I have taken stock—I have received a sum from the Insurance Office for goods destroyed and damaged—I did not include the goods missing—the upper part of the house was burnt, but none of the goods were burnt—they were damaged by water—I lost no gloves, brushes, or bottles—some large bottles were affected by the fire—many glass bottles and china were broken—I made no claim for articles of the description that are here—Mr. Lonsdale lives in Bond-street—my shop is at the corner of Burlington-gardens, in Bond-street—the things were all in glass cases, and carried off—they were returned the next morning.

COURT. Q. These were quite independent of what you claimed compensation for? A. Yes.

SAMUEL HUGHES . I am a police-inspector. On the 16th of March found these things at No. 4, Russell-place, Bow-street—the prisoner's mother was there.

Cross-examined. Q. Besides these, yon found a scarf and veil, and some other things, that Patching had bought? A. Yes—I found the things I now produce in two boxes, some in one, and some in the other—the prisoner lived at Mr. Lonsdale's—he gave me his address—I went there, and found his mother and these things.

JANE PITTS . The prisoner is my son—the boxes belong to him, as far as I know—I saw them at the police-station—I did not see them at my house—there were two boxes there belonging to my son, but I did not go up stairs till they were searched and locked up—I did not point them out to the officer, nor did his father-in-law, in my presence—they would not allow me to go up stairs till they were all shut up—I did not point out the boxes to the officers—they were not shown to me till the Monday, at the station-house—I was sworn before the Magistrate—I said I did not see the boxes opened—the Magistrate asked me whether the boxes in which the property was found were my son's—I answered, "Yes," and I now swear I did not point them out to the officers.

Cross-examined. Q. You have been married a second time? A. Yes—Patching was in the habit of coming to visit me—she was no further intimate with my son than as fellow servants—the boxes were not kept open

they were in my room, and I was kept down stairs by another officer, while they went up with his father-in-law.

SAMUEL HUGHES re-examined. A short time after we were there, the witness was down stairs, and then she came up, and saw these gloves on the room; and as the boxes were going down, she said they were her son's.

(Alexander Wylie, William Marriott, Benjamin Dickens, Benjamin Atkins, and John Reynolds, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 24.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1027
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1027. JAMES HOLMES was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of March, 1 hearth-rug, value 8s. the goods of David Jones.

RICHARD COOPER . I am a policeman. I met the prisoner at a quarter-past six o'clock, on the evening of the 16th of March, with a rug—I asked him where he got it—he said that he was sent for it by a person in Totenham-court-road—I asked him who—he said, "Mrs. Cavan"—I took him there, and she said she knew nothing of it.

EDWARD WILLIAM HUMBERSTONE . I live with Mr. David Jones, a liversmith and pawnbroker, in High Holborn. This rug is his—it was suspended outside on a rod, eleven feet and a half high from the ground—I do not know the prisoner.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1028
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1028. GEORGE PALMER was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of March, 1 handkerchief, value 1s. 6d., the goods of Alfred Perkins, from his person.

ALFRED PERKINS . I am in the umbrella business. On the 22nd of March I was in St. James's-park, about one o'clock—I was walking along with the crowd, and felt a slight pull at my pocket, and on looking round, I saw the prisoner wiping his mouth with my handkerchief—I was in the act of taking it from him, and the policeman reached over and took him—this handkerchief is mine—(looking at it.)

JOHN PASMORE MUMFORD . I am a policeman. I was in the Park and saw the prisoner put his left hand into the prosecutor's pocket—by the time I got to him he had got it to his mouth—I took him with it.

Prisoner's Defence. I had been to St. Bartholomew's Hospital as a out-patient, and on returning home I fell in with the band of a regiment—there being a great crowd I was nearly thrown down—I saw a handkerchief on the ground—I picked it up, and while I was looking at it the prosecutor said it was his, and I gave it him.

GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1029
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1029. DAVID HOTT, alias George Johnson , was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of March, 1 time-piece, value 2l., the goods of John Budd.—2nd COUNT, stating it to be the goods of William Nedby and others.

THOMAS CLEMENTS . I am an assistant to William Nedby and others, who are auctioneers. There was a sale on the 22nd of March in Surrey-street, Strand—they were employed as auctioneers by the executor, John Budd—I was there as their agent—there was a time-piece, which I removed to the back parlour the night before the sale—it was safe when the sale began, about half-past twelve o'clock, and about half-past one o'clock I missed it

—I had noticed the prrisoner there—he asked me for a catalogue—this is the time-piece—(looking at it.)

Poisoner. Q. Was there any other person in the place? A. Yes; but not in the parlour—I did not see you in the parlour, but within two feet of the parlour-door—I had not seen you before—I pointed you out at the station-house because I recollected you—I swear this is the die—I should have sworn to it from a thousand—I described it to the policeman.

HENRY HUBBERTY . I am an officer. I fell in with the prisoner, and saw him talking to Davies, near Crown-street, Westminster—he had something in a black handkerchief—I asked him what he had got—he said "A time-piece"—I took him to the station—I asked to look at what he had got, and he refused at first to let me look, and then I told him I should take him to the watch-house, and he showed me the time-piece—I asked where he got it—he said I had no right to ask him that question, and he should not tell me—when I got him to the station, he said he bought it at Brixton, that day fortnight, at a sale—I found on him a catalogue of a sale, but not the sale where this time-piece was stolen—I made inquiry, and found out this sale.

Prisoner. You asked me what I had got in my hand, and the person with me said you had a right to know, and then I showed it you immediately.

WILLIAM DAVIES . I fell in with the prisoner at the Mitre, in King-street, Westminster—he said he had no money, and asked if I would treat him with a pint of half-and-half—he then took this time-piece out of his pocket behind, and asked me to buy it for fourteen shillings.

Prisoner's Defence. I bought the time-piece of a person at a sale it Brixton-rise, at the beginning of March—I gave fifteen shillings for it—I know the person, but do not know his name nor where he lives—he was at the sale, and I bought it of him afterwards—I was at the West end of the town all that morning, and was not near Surrey-street, Strand—I do not know the residence of the person I was with, or I would have sent to him.

GUILTY .* Aged 37.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1030
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1030. GEORGE NEWMAN was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of December, 1 plane, value 1s.; 1 file, value 1d.; and 1 plumb bob, value 1s. 6d.; the goods of Peter Scott.

PETER SCOTT . I am an engineer. I lost these articles from Mr. Saunders's, a soda-water maker—the prisoner was his servant—I missed some tools, and could not account for it—Mr. Saunders then missed some things, and then these things, (looking at them) which are mine, were found at the prisoner's lodgings.

Prisoner. That plane I have had eighteen months—I gave 1s. 3d. for it. Witness. I know it to be mine by a mark in it—I missed it about December; and this plumb bob I can swear to.

WILLIAM WILSON . I am an officer. I searched the prisoner's lodgings on the 20th of March, and found these articles there—he told me he lodged there, and gave me the key.

GUILTY . Aged 22.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1031
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1031. GEORGE NEWMAN was again indicted for stealing, on the 20th of January, 1 spoon, value 2s. 6d.; 1 handkerchief, value 2s. 6d.; 4 bottles, value 1s.; 1 brush, value 6d.; 1 pair of scissors, value 6d.; 1 blow-pipe, value 1s.; 1 packing needle, value 1d.; and 3 printed books, value, the goods of George Saunders, his master.

GEORGE SAUNDERS . I am a soda-water manufacturer, and live in larendon Grove, Somers Town. The prisoner lived with me three years, a labourer—I missed things for some time, and told the policeman, he searched his lodgings, and found some things of mine.

HENRY JOHN BEAUMONT . I am a pawnbroker, and live in Ossulston-street. I produce a silver salt-spoon, pawned, to the best of my recollection, by the prisoner.

WILLIAM WILSON . I am a police-sergeant I went to the prisoner's lodgings, and found these other articles, and a duplicate of this salt-spoon his box, which induced me to go to the pawnbroker's.

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Six Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1032
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1032. JOHN REEVES was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of March, boots, value 1l., the goods of Samuel Bryan.

THOMAS POTTER . I live in Bateman's-buildings, Soho-square, and am cab-driver. I was going up Oxford-street, about a quarter past six clock, on the 19th of March, and saw the prisoner take two boots from the door of Mr. Bryan's shop—he got a space from the door, doubled them up, then put them under his arm, and ran off—I said to a man, "That man has stolen these boots"—I went on, and got to Crown-street—the man belonging to the boots overtook me—I told him—I then went on towards St. Giles's Church, and saw the prisoner opposite the churchyard, in conversation with two women—I went across, and said, "Old fellow, you have got a good pair of boots there"—he said, "Yes; I make them"—I said,"Yes, you made them pretty quick, for I saw you take them from a man's door"—he up with his fist, gave me a rap on the side of the head, and down I went—I got up, and said I would follow him—he went on to Bainbridge-street, and stopped at a door, and said, "I live here"—I said, "I shall stop and see you go in"—he said, "Then I will not go in now"—he then went on to the "Rookery," and I was afraid to follow him—he was taken by the policeman.

Prisoner. You said you did not see me take them. Witness. I saw you take them, but I did not know that you stole them till you doubled them up, and ran away, or I could have stopped you—I did not see a policeman when I saw you the second time.

THOMAS BELL . I am a servant out of place. On the night in question I was standing at the prosecutor's door—I saw the prisoner come by, and take two boots—I went and called Mr. Bryan's man, and we went after him, but did not overtake him—I afterwards saw him in custody, and am confident he is the person.

JOHN SAMUEL ALLEN . I am shopman to Mr. Samuel Bryan. Bell told me that a man had taken some boots—I went out and saw a man a hundred yards before me—I followed him, but we lost him—from the description I had of the man, and what I saw of him, I believe the prisoner is the man—the boots are quite lost.

Prisoner. Q. Could you swear to me? A. I believe you to be the man—he had a jacket on similar to the one you have now.

HENRY BUTLER . I am a policeman. I apprehended the prisoner, in consequence of the description the witness gave me.

GUILTY . Aged 36.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1033
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1033. JULIA HOROGAN was indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of March, 18 yards of printed cotton, value 3s.; 1 shirt, value 1s.; 1 pillow-case, value 6d.; I flannel wrapper, value 3d.; and 1 cream-jug, value 6d., the goods of William Poulton.

MARGARET ANN BEST . I know the house of Mr. Poulton, in Wild-street—on the 23rd of March I saw the prisoner there, between four and five o'clock—she took a piece of bed-furniture down out of the passage, and went away—I went and took it from her, and brought her back to the shop.

ELIZABETH POULTON . I am the wife of William Poulton—we keep a second-hand clothes shop. This bed-furniture (looking at it) is my husband's—I never saw the prisoner till she was taken.

PETER JOSLIN . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner, and have the property.

(The prisoner pleaded that she was intoxicated at the time.)

PETER JOSLIN . I believe she had been drinking, but she knew perfectly well what she was about.

GUILTY. Aged 39.—Recommended to mercy .— Confined Five Days.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1034
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1034. ELIZABETH THOMPSON was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of March, 2 pillows, value 4s. 6d.; and 1 blanket, value 2s. 6d.; the goods of George Robert Wood.

GEORGE ROBERT WOOD . I live in Whiskin-street, and let lodgings. The prisoner came to lodge with me as a single woman, in January—about five weeks' rent was due—she is a dress-maker—on the 16th of March we took her on suspicion of some other property which was lost in the house, and then I missed my blanket and pillows—they were let to her with the lodgings.

JOHN DAVIS . I am a pawnbroker, and live in St. John-street. The prisoner pawned this blanket with me on the 31st of January, and one pillow on the 9th of February.

Prisoner. I never saw the things I was accused of taking—I was remanded six times, and dragged through the streets with the very dregs of society, and then put into a prison, and had I not been taken, I should have replaced these things on that Saturday.

GEORGE ROBERT WOOD . She took the room in January, and had plenty of work, but did not do it—when she had work she pledged it, which made me suspect her.

GUILTY—Aged 46.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury.

Confined Six Days.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1035
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1035. GEORGE LEE was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of March, 1 coat, value 20s.; 1 pair of trowsers, value 10s.; 1 hat, value 7s.; and 1 handkerchief, value 3s.; the goods of William Clement.

WILLIAM CLEMENT . I live in Swan-street, and keep a coal-shed. The prisoner occupied a bed at my house for five or six days—he took it by the week—on the 12th of March I was out in the evening, and returned at half-past eight o'clock—when I went out my coat, and trowsers, and handkerchief, and hat, were safe—when I returned they were gone, and the prisoner also—he did not return to sleep there that night—I found him on

the Monday following, in the City workhouse—I asked him about the things—he said he had pledged them, and he named different places—we should only find this handkerchief, which he said he sold to a boy, and the boy sold it to a woman in Field-lane, and there it was found.

WILLIAM WATTS . I work in Field-lane, in the employment of Mr. sunders. I bought this handkerchief of the prisoner for 1s. 6d.—I sold again for 2s. in Field-lane, to a person who keeps a shop.

ROBERT PENNER . I am a policeman. I found this handkerchief in field-lane from information I received, and I took the prisoner.

Prisoner. The prosecutor persuaded me to tell, and said he would forgive me—I went and showed where the handkerchief was.

GUILTY .* Aged 18.— Confined Six Months.

NEW COURT.—Saturday, April 7th, 1838.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1036
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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1036. EDWARD LOWE was indicted for stealing, 4 live tame, fowls, price 5s., the property of Henry Lowe; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 65.— Confined Six Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1037
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation; Guilty > with recommendation

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1037. JOHN BACON and GEORGE CLARK were indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of March, 5 pairs of clogs, value 6s. 6d. the goods of George Row.

PRISCILLA HILL . I am fourteen years old, and am a servant. On the evening of the 22nd of March I was at the shop window of Mr. Row, in Kingsland-road, and saw the two prisoners—Clark took the clogs from the door—he dropped them under the window, picked them up, put them into Bacon's apron, and he ran away with them—they both ran together—Clark told me to say nothing—I went directly into the shop and told the people—they were together before—I was going by the door, and saw him put his hands in the door and take them.

GEORGE ROW . I live in Kingsland-road, and am a shoemaker. On the evening of the 22nd of March, I went to my shop door, is consequence of what I was told—I missed a bundle of clogs, five pairs—they had been bunk just inside the door—I had seen them safe ten minutes or a quarter of an hour before I got information from Hill.

THOMAS TEAKLE (police-sergeant H 8.) On the 22nd of March I was with Sergeant Power, in Wheeler-street, Bethnal-green, and met both the prisoners—Bacon had something in his apron—I laid hold of Bacon, and Clark ran away—I found on Bacon these five pairs of clogs, with the ticket on them—I asked where he got them from—he said his master—I asked where he lived—he said near Shoreditch church—I asked what number—he then said, "I know nothing about them, the other boy gave them to me."

DENNIS POWER (police-sergeant H 18.) I was with Teakle when he stopped the prisoners—he has given a correct account of what passed—I apprehended Clark when he ran away, and Teakle detained Bacon.

Bacon. I was going up Kingsland-road, and when I got to Mr. Row's shop I saw Clark there, and these were not quite under the window—he picked them up and gave them to me—he did not say where he got them from.

Clark. I met Bacon going up Kingsland-road, and he told me he had

picked up a bundle of clogs—he said he would tie them up in his apron, which he did.

BACON— GUILTY .* Aged 19.

CLARK— GUILTY .* Aged 17.

Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor.— Confined Six Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1038
VerdictsGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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1038. MARY DOBIE was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of March 3 table-cloths, value 3l.; 1 sword, value 2l.; 9 window curtains, value 2d., 30 towels, value 30s.; 10 linen cloths, value 10s.; 2 counterpanes, value 2l.; 1 ink-stand, value 2s.; 2 chimney ornaments, value 2s.; 4 curtain brackets, value 4s.; 4 Venetian blinds, value 4s.; 20 chair-coven, value 4l.; 1 linen-cloth, called a layover, value 1l. 10s.; 2 drinking horns, value 2s.; and 4 packing cases, value 1l.; the goods of Francis William Earl of Charlemont, of that part of the United Kingdom called Ireland, her master; and ROWLAND DOBIE for feloniously receiving the same, wel knowing them to have been stolen.

MR. PHILLIPS conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM HAINING . I am a police-inspector. On the 22nd of March I went with Collier to the male prisoner's residence, at No. 26, Woods-mews, Park-lane—I found him at home, and told him I was come to search his lodgings, if he would consent—he said he had no objection—I searched his bed-room, there was a very large box there—I found this table-cloth's it—the box was locked—he took the key and unlocked it for us—I found this sword in the same box, and a variety of towels, table cloths, silk handkerchief, seven pairs of sheets, and this counterpane—(producing them)—then is a great deal more—here are towels, printed cotton, and a variety of other things, and a great quantity of carpeting—I searched other boxes, and found other things—I asked where he got the sword from—he said he had it given him when he was in Ireland by a butler in France, named Le Maitre—I asked him about this large table-cloth—he said Mary his wife knew about that—his wife came in while I was searching, and I asked her if she knew any thing about that table-cloth—she said Mrs. Clarke, Earl Charlemont's housekeeper in Dublin, gave it her—I showed her his Lordship's coat of arms on it, and asked her what she would say to that—she said it would be the ruin of both of them—her husband was in the other room—I do not think he heard her—the next day I took both the prisoenrs into custody—several things had been marked, and the marks erased—here is a napkin with the mark picked out, and upon this, in another corner, the initials of the prisoner's are worked.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. You told this man at once what you came about? A. Yes; he assisted me in searching—I did not take him till the next day, and then found him at his situation.

WILLIAM ROBINSON . I am butler to Earl Charlemont, and have been so for six weeks. Mary Dobie lived in his service up to the 23rd of March—his lordship was then in Ireland, but the family were living in Lower Grosve-nor-street—Earl Charlemont had horn cups like these, and two have been missed—they were found in another box at the male prisoner's.

JAMES GRIFFITHS . I was butler to Earl Charlemont last February. I left the first week in March—I know this sword—I cleaned it some time after Christmas, and greased it, and gave it to Mary Dobie, and told her to take it to his lordship's room, as my cupboard was rather damp—I knew Le Maitre, I succeeded him—he left the service last July, more than six months before I had given Mary Dobie the sword to take care of—I had it in my possession from July, till I gave it her.

CHARLOTTE CLARKE . I am housekeeper in Lord Charlemont's establishment in Ireland. I never gave this table-cloth to Mary Dobie—I have been brought from Ireland on this subject—I knew there was such a table-cloth in the cupboard, which was not often made use of—I did not miss it.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you ever given some linen to servants which have been somewhat worn? A. Yes, some old towels—there have been some things added to his lordship's house the last year or two—it has not been furnished.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Is that a table-cloth perfectly fit for use? A. Yes.

FRANCIS WILLIAM EARL CHARLEMONT . My title is the Earl of Charlemont, of the kingdom of Ireland.

Cross-examined. Q. How long had this man been in your service? A. About seven years, from the year 1830—I parted with him because I had no further occasion for a groom—I recommended him to Lord Haward—the woman has borne the very best character—she was upper-housemaid—I had no doubt of the honesty of either.



Transported for Seven Years.

(There was another indictment against the male prisoner.)

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1039
VerdictsGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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1039. DAVID WELLING was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of March, at St. Pancras, 37 sovereigns, 15 shillings, 10 sixpences, 1 £10 and £5 Bank-notes, the property of Caleb Fowler, in his dwelling-house; and JAMES BROWN for feloniously receiving 22 sovereigns, and 2 £5 Bank-notes, part of the said property, well knowing it to have been stolen; another COUNT charging Brown as an accessary after the fact.

CALEB FOWLER . I keep a grocer's shop in Augusta-street, Regent's-park. On Tuesday, the 6th of March, Welling came to me as errand-boy—he slept in my house—on the evening of Tuesday, the 13th of March, I went to my bed-room—I kept my money in a cash-box in a drawer there—I found the lock of the drawer wrenched off, and the cash-box open—the key was in the cash-box—I missed one £10 note, two £5 notes, and gold and silver, which amounted to 38l. at the least—there was perhaps twenty-four or twenty-five sovereigns—my wife had counted the money on the Monday morning—I had not taken out any after that—my room door was usually left unlocked—I had dismissed the prisoner Welling—at one or two o'clock, and I missed this between seven and eight o'clock in the evening—he had come home that day intoxicated—Mrs.Gauntlett keeps a house next door, and when I dismissed Welling, I observed he went there—I gave information to the police, as soon as I discovered the loss—I found him in custody at the station the following Sunday, as near as I can recollect—I said, "David, How came you to do this?"—he said he was tipsy, and before I went away he said he hoped I should look over it—I said, "Did you do it when we were at dinner?"—he said, "No, in the afternoon"—the policeman Produced 22l.—there were two £5 notes—I was able to speak to one of them, as my name was on it.

Cross-examined by MR. PRICE. Q. Somebody had been making Welling drink? A. I do not know—he came home drunk, and I dismissed him—I had no occasion to find fault with him before—I was very much surprised to find him in that state—he had lived twelve months with the gentleman whom I succeeded—he was not living with him when I took him—he had a good character.

AMELIA GAUNTLETT . I am the wife of Charles Gauntlett, a carpenter, in Augusta-street, Regent's-park. I have known Welling between two and three years—I knew him to bear a most excellent character by his former master, Mr. Langley—I took him into my house on the 13th, when Mr. Fowler turned him away for getting tipsy—I asked him if he had done any thing wrong besides getting tipsy—he said, no; not that he knew of—I allowed him to lie down in a back room, on my children's bed—I went to him—he was putting the bed clothes smooth, and going to leave the house—I saw him with two sovereigns and six shillings—I said "Whose is that, Mr. Fowler's?"—he said "No"—I said, "Is that your?"—he said "No; a person gave it me to take care of."

Cross-examined. Q. You requested him to go home? A. Yes—I meant to his parents—they live in the neighbourhood—he was not able to walk, and he was not quite sober when I desired him to go home; but he said he was better—he was helplessly drunk when he came, and obliged to take hold of the railings as he stood at the door—he said two girls had been giving him some rum—I have known him three years down to the present time—he has always been a well-conducted boy.

GEORGE PALMER (police-sergeant E 17.) On the morning of the 18th of March I went to No. 13, Buck ridge-street, St. Giles's, about one o'clock, and found the two prisoners in bed together, in a room by themselves, apparently asleep—they got up at my desire—Collier, at my request, turned down a bolster, and there was a parcel containing 39l. 15s.—I took charge of Welling—his jacket, trowsers, waistcoat, stockings, and silk handkerchief were all new—I asked him at the station-house How he came to commit such a robbery?—he said he was drunk when he did it—I found two shillings in his pocket—the landlady gave me a bundle—Welling claimed it as his—it consisted of a pair of trowsers, two shirts, a hat, some lemon-peel, end other things.

GEORGE COLLIER (police-constable E 38.) I went with Palmer—I turned the bolster of the bed up, and found a handkerchief containing two £5 notes, twenty-two sovereigns, four half-sovereigns, and 5l. 15s. in silver—this was on the Saturday following the robbery.

JAMES COBBIN (police-constable E 79.) I took the prisoner, Brown, into custody—his clothes were new—he said he bough them at Whitechaped—Welling said the same—I found on Brown two knives, and two-pence a half-penny in copper, no silver.

ELIZABETH FOWLER . I am the wife of Caleb Fowler, the prosecutor, On Monday, March the 12th, I counted the money in the cash-box—there was £58 altogether—there was a £10 note, a £5 note, a large quantity of silver, and some gold—I left the key in the cash-box, and put the key of the drawer into my pocket—I had a mode of depositing the cash-box at night for better security—I saw the cash-box on the morning of the 13th safe—I put in another £5 note, and took out five sovereigns—I left the same amount of money—I had kept the key of the drawer myself.

HENRY OAKES . I live with my father and mother in Ernest-street, Regent's-park. I heard of the robbery on the evening of the 13th—on the morning of that day, between eleven and twelve o'clock, I saw Welling come out of his master's shop, with a basket—I was in Cumberland-market—I could see the shop from there—Welling whistled to Brown to come to him, and they went up Augusta-street—I saw Welling go back to his master's shop—I was walking behind them—I could not hear what they said—I

did not see any opportunity that Welling had of getting any drink—he was sober when he got back to his master's about twelve o'clock.

ELIZABETH FOWLER re-examined. He went out again a little before one o'clock, and came home drunk about two o'clock—I saw the money "safe last about eleven o'clock on the 13th.

HARRIET REDDY . I am the wife of Frederick Reddy, and keep a clother's shop at Epping. On the morning of the 15th, three boys came to my shop, to all appearance the prisoners, are two of the boys—I served them with three pairs of trowsers, two handkerchiefs, and one pair of braces—the youngest paid—the other appeared the eldest of the three—I have seen two pairs of trowsers produced by the officer, which are what I sold—the other boy bought a pair of braces.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. This was on the 15th? A. Yes—Welling paid for them.

BENJAMIN CUTHBERT . I am servant to Mrs. Kirby, of Whitechapel—had—she keeps a clothes shop. On Friday, the 16th, two boys came to the shop—I think Welling was one—I sold two jackets to them—Welling said for them—this jacket was left behind—(producing it)—it is not the property of either of the prisoners—the jacket taken from Welling is the one I sold on that occasion.

(James Brown, of Montague-street, Russell-square, gave Welling a good Character).

WELLING— GUILTY of larceny only. Aged 16.

Transported for Seven Years.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1040
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1040. RICHARD BLACKWELL was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of March, 1 musical box, value 10s., the goods of James De Caisne.

JAMES DE CAISNE . I live in Stephen-street, Lisson-grove, and am a tinman. I have known the prisoner four years—on the evening of the 12th of March he called on me, and staid about four hours—I had a musical box—I put it on the table, and after that put it on the top of a cheffonier, six feet from the ground—after he had gone some time I missed it—I got a police-sergeant, and followed him to a barge on the Paddington canal—I found him on board, and asked him for my musical box—he said he had not got it—I said, "I know you have"—he said he had not got any such thing—the policeman asked him for it several times—he denied it—the policeman then went to search the bed he was lying on—he still denied it, and then he searched his waistcoat, but did not find it—the officer said "Don't break the box, it is a tender thing;" and the prisoner then turned round, and put the box through a hole, at the back of the cabin, in among the packages—I saw him turn himself round, but did not see it put there—I found it there—he said if we would wait a minute he would dress himself, and give it us—he undid the cords of the tarpaulin, and moved some of the packages—the box fell to the bottom, and the policeman and another man there got it up—this is it—(looking at it.)

JOHN RYAN (police-sergeant D 2.) I accompanied the prosecutor on board the barge, and found the prisoner in bed—I told him to give the box up—he denied having it—I then saw him shuffling about, and saw him put his hand into a hole, between the bed-place and the back-place of the barge—he then acknowledged that he had it, and would give it up—he got up, and partly dressed himself, moved some of the packages, and I saw the box at the bottom—I took it up—the prosecutor owned it—I found 7s., and a knife upon the prisoner.

Prisoner. I was going along the street, and met the prosecutor's wife with some gin—she asked me to drink, and I did—she asked me to go home, and I passed the evening with them—I got intoxicated, and returned to my bed—I did not know I had it till I got on board. Witness. He was not intoxicated at all.

GUILTY . Aged 33.— Confined One Month.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1041
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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1041. MARY BOOTH was indicted for stealing, on the 28th of February, 1 gown, value 2s., the goods of Charles Walter.

GEORGE SPILLER . I live with Mr. Charles Walter, a pawnbroker, in High-street, Marylebone. On the 28th of February the prisoner came to the shop, with another person, and immediately the prisoner was gone missed two gowns from inside the shop—I saw them safe a quarter of an hour before—I missed them before the other woman quitted the shop—I stopped the prisoner on Saturday, the 24th of March, at the corner of Marylebone-street, for stealing a pair of our shoes, and on her was found some duplicates, one of which was of this gown.

Prisoner. I took the gown out of pledge that day—I pawned it in company with Mrs. Lloyd at Mr. Daniels, and redeemed it from Mr. Grieves—it was my own—I bought it of his master twelve months ago—I was never in the prosecutor's shop that day, nor in company with the woman he names at all. Witness. Yes, she was with Mrs. Kite, and when she stole the shoes she asked me if Mrs. Kite had been there—I know perfectly well she was the person that was there—she was with Mrs. Kite.

HILL BECK (police-constable D 127.) On the 24th of March I saw the prisoner stopped by Spiller, and took a pair of shoes from under her shawl—I took her to the station-house, and asked her name—she said she would not tell me, she would tell the Magistrate—Mrs. Noble searched her, and found twenty-two duplicates—one was of a gown, pledged at Mr. Daniels.

SOPHIA NOBLE . I searched the prisoner, and found this duplicate on her—she told me I should not search her, saying she would give me a good beating, and desired I would shut the door, but I persisted in searching her and found the duplicates on her, in a tin-box.

JAMES BURT . I am in the employ of Messrs. Daniels, of Bowling-street, pawnbrokers. I produce a gown, pledged on the 28th of February, by the prisoner in the name of Ann Lloyd, 6, York-court—Mrs. Lloyd was with the prisoner.

Prisoner. Q. Did you go to Mr. Grieves to know whether I had taken that out of pledge there that day? A. No, I did not—the gown was pledged in the morning, and in the evening they were very much intoxicated.

GEORGE SPILLER re-examined. This is my master's gown—we mark all our property, with the cost price in ink—here it is now—I saw it that afternoon hanging inside the shop—it must have been twelve or eighteen months ago since we took it in pledge.

Prisoner. I purchased it in his shop twelve months ago last July—I was in his shop on the 20th of March—he said nothing about it—it could be proved by the pawnbroker's tickets and books that it had been pawned two months—I fetched it out that day. Witness. I had seen it safe in the shop that day—it has our mark, and if it had been washed it would have washed out—we lost it at three o'clock in the afternoon of the 28th of February.

JAMES BURT re-examined. I think it was pawned in the forenoon—I cannot swear it was before two or three o'clock—I cannot recollect whether had dined—I cannot recollect the hour.

Prisoner. I entreated of you to find out that I had taken it out the same day. Witness, She did at the office, and mentioned the name of the shop Greives and Brook, but she might have fetched a gown from there.


2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1042
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1042. MARY BOOTH was again indicted for stealing, on the 24th March, 1 pair of shoes, value 4s. 6d. the goods of Charles Walter.

GEORGE SPILLER . I saw the prisoner at my master's shop on the 24th March—I followed her out, took these shoes from her, and gave her into custody—the officer was about twenty yards off—these are the shoes—producing them)—they have our mark on the sole in ink—they had not been sold.

HILL BECK (police-constable D 127.) I taw Spiller run and catch the prisoner at the comer of Little Marylebone-street, and take the shoes from under her shawl.

ELIZABETH TILLEY . I saw the prisoner take the shoes and place them under her shawl—I gave notice to Mr. Spiller, and be followed her.

Prisoner. I was in company with that woman at the Angel public-house, and had a quartern of gin—she gave me the shoes—the asked me to go and pledge them for her. Witness. I never saw her before—there is not a word of truth in it—I was against the door when the took them, and I told at once what she had done.

GEORGE SPILLER . This woman was in the shop—I was serving—the prisoner did not come in.

GUILTY . Aged 44. Confined Six Months;

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1043
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1043. ANN FINN was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of February, 1 table-cloth, value 8s.; 3 towels, value 2s.; part of a gown, value 1s. 6d.; 1 handkerchief, value 1s.; 1 spoon, value 2s.; 1 knife, value 6d.; 1 fork, value 6d.; 1 wine-glass, value 9d.; and 9 glass-cloths, value 2s.; the goods of Henry Armour.

ANN ARMOUR . I am the wife of Henry Armour, a cabinet-maker, of Old Cavendish-street. The prisoner was my servant six weeks—we lost several articles—I acquainted her with it, not suspecting her—she said, she knew nothing about them—I gave her permission to go out to tea on the 18th of March—she returned about twelve o'clock the following day—in consequence of her not returning that night, I unlocked her box with a key of my own—I was not aware of its fitting it—my laundress was present—I found in the prisoner's box a table-cloth, two chamber articles, some towels, and various other goods and broken glass—I have no doubt it was broken by accident, and then concealed there—the articles could not have been there for the use of the house—I found some remnants of silk, part of a gown—the prisoner was coming in just as I was searching the box—I took her to the box—when I told her what I had found, she said she knew nothing of it—they are not things which intercepted between their use and going to the wash—she had not given them out to the wash—she gave me no explanation.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Is the table-cloth clean? A. No, sir.

RICHARD BARNARD (police-constable D 153.) I went to Old Cavendish-street, and found the prosecutrix there—she gave these articles into my hand—the prisoner was there, but said nothing in my hearing or presence.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY—Aged 26.—Recommended to mercy ,— Confined Fourteen Days.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1044
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1044. HENRY AUSTIN was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of March, 2 feet of lead pipe, value 1s.; 1 metal cock and ball, value 3s.; 1 brush, value 3s.; 1 valve, value 4s.; and 1 knife, value 6d.; the goods of John Perkins.

RICHARD REASON (police-constable N 129.) I was in the Liverpool-road, on the 16th of March, and saw the prisoner coming from some unfinished buildings belonging to Mr. Glenn, with a basket—I overtook him, and searched his basket—I found this property—he said he brought them from his master, Mr. Perkins, at Holloway—I should think he was half a mile from Holloway—I took him to the station-house.

JOHN PERKINS . I live in Northampton-row, Holloway. This ball brush, and pipe, and other things are mine—they had been in a new building in the Liverpool-road, from which the prisoner is described as coming—I had engaged the prisoner as house-painter on the 15th of March, he had not completed the job—he should have come to me on the day he was stopped—he was stopped at twenty minutes after twelve o'clock at night.

Cross-examined by MR. GLOVER. Q. During the winter are painters frequently thrown out of employment? A. Yes, they are—prisoner said he had been out of employ—he had only been one day and a half with me—he has a wife and four children, but he might have worked till now, he was to have 4s. a day.

GUILTY —Aged 28.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1045
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1045. HENRY AUSTIN was again indicted for stealing, on the 16th of March, 4 bells, value 10s., the goods of John Glenn; being fixed to a certain building; against the Statute, &c.

RICHARD REASON (police-constable N 129.) In addition to the articles mentioned in the last case, I found in the prisoner's basket these four bells—he gave no account of them—I stopped him at twelve o'clock at night in the Liverpool-road—it was from No. 11 that I saw him come.

WILLIAM CLARK . I live in Noel's-buildings, Liverpool-road. I know these four bells—they are the property of Mr. John Glenn—I hung them for him in a new house, in Liverpool-road—I think it is No. 11, Liverpool-terrace—they were fixed in the house—I had finished them that evening, as they were taken away the same night—they were fixed in the brick-work by this carriage, and that was wrenched off.

GUILTY . Aged 28.— Confined Six Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1046
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1046. ELEANOR HOGAN was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of September, 1 shawl, value 18s.; 2 petticoats, value 1s.; and 1 shift, value 1s.; the goods of Kearon Hackett, her master.

BRIDGET HACKETT . I am the wife of Kearon Hackett, of Rufford's-buildings, Islington. The prisoner was my servant—she quitted me on Thursday, the 22nd of March—I missed a shawl and petticoat—I gave the prisoner into custody in consequence of a child bringing a pair of stockings and saying something—when she was given

into custody, I saw her searched, and she owned to having a petticoat of mine on—I saw it.

THOMAS HOBBS KING (police-constable N 22.) I took the prisoner—I and seven duplicates on her—two belonging to the property of the prosecutor—they were in a purse in her pocket—I produce a petticoat taken from the prisoner at the station, and delivered to me in her presence.

SAMUEL SLOPER . I am in the service of Mr. Sherwood, a pawnbroker, St. John's-street-road. I have a shift pawned on the 15th of September, and a shawl on the 20th of March, by the prisoner.

BRIDGET HACKET re-examined. I never lent the prisoner any of these things—she had left me on the Thursday before—her week was up on the Sunday.

GUILTY . Aged 28.— Confined One Month.,

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1047
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1047. THOMAS ROBINSON was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of March, 2 seals, value 3s., the goods of Mary Ann Mariner.

MARY ANN MOOR . I live with my mother, Mary Ann Mariner, widow, to keeps a broker's shop in Tottenham Court-road. A table stood outside the door with the seals on it—I observed the prisoner touch something, and believe I asked him what he had taken—he ran away—I sent the shop-man after him, who brought him back.

WILLIAM BAKER (police-constable E 108.) I took charge of the prisoner, and searched him—I asked if he had taken any thing—he said no had not, I was quite welcome to search him—I found these two seals between the lining and cloth of his trowsers.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

Prisoner. I had found the seals the night before, and they had jumped on my pocket into my trowsers.

MARY ANN MOOR . I put these on the table that morning myself.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Ten Days.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1048
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1048. JANE CARR was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of March, pair of shoes, value 3s., the goods of Gregorio Giovanelli, her master: and 1 ring, value 5s., the goods of Theresa Giovanelli; and that she had been before convicted of felony.

THERESA GIOVANELLI . I am the daughter of Gregorio Giovanelli, who lives in Albemarle-street, Clerkenwell—the prisoner lived there as servant—I missed a pair of ear-rings from a drawer in a bed-room on the second floor, also an emerald ring which I kept on the mantel-piece, and a pair of shoes—the prisoner asked for a holiday—she did not come back—went to her house, and her sister gave me a duplicate in her presence.

MARY ANN CONNOR . I live in Lamb's-court, Clerkenwell, and sell oranges in the street. The prisoner gave me a ring, and said it was no good to her, I might keep it—I gave it to the policeman directly I heard was stolen.

JOSEPH NUNWICK ROSIER . I keep a pawnbroker's shop in Turnmill-street. I produce a pair of shoes pawned on the 27th of March by the prisoner to the best of my recollection—I cannot speak positively—she gave the name of Ann Willis, lodging at No. 27, Turnmill-street.

JAMES BARNETT (police-constable G 53.) I got this ring from Connor I produce a duplicate given to me by Theresa Giovanelli—this one produced by the pawnbroker is a counterpart of it—it is for a pair of shoes.

THERESA GIOVANELLI re-examined. These shoes are my mother's—the ring is mine—it is gold.

WILLIAM BARTON (police-sergeant G 1.) I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction, which I got from Mr. Clark's office—I was present when the prisoner was tried—she is the person here described—(read)

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Three Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1049
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1049. JOHN ARNOLD was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of March, 3 1/2 lbs. weight of mutton, value 1s. 9d.; and 3lbs. weight of been value 1s. 9d.; the goods of James Green.

JAMES GREEN . I live in Crawford-street. My father, James Green, is butcher—before nine o'clock on the morning of the 25th of March I was in the shop serving a customer—the prisoner came in—he had a bag with him—after I had served the other customers I turned to the prisoner, and asked what he would give for the meat he was cheapening—he made no answer, but walked off—I missed two pieces of meat—I went and found him in a door-way twenty yards up—he was taking the meat out and putting it into a handkerchief—I took him—two pieces of mutton and two pieces of beef were found in the handkerchief—it was Yorkshire mutton—I know it by the scoring, and we had the fellow pieces.

JAMES COLE (police-constable D 25.) I found the prisoner in Oxford-street—I asked him what he had got under his bag—he said, "Nothing—I lifted it up, and found the meat in a handkerchief—I found 1s. 4 1/2 d. on him, and four duplicates.

GUILTY . Aged 53.— Confined Ten Days.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1050
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1050. JOSEPH TILLER was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of February, 3 watches, value 6l. 3s.; 1 shawl, value 1l. 8s.; 1 handkerchief, value 4s.; 1 seal, value 4s.; 1 basket, value 4d.; and 1 boot, value 6d.; the goods of Robert Hayes, in his dwelling-house; and that he had been before convicted of felony.

MARY HAYES . I am the wife of Robert Hayes, of Spring-garden-place Pimlico. The prisoner has lodged in my house since August—I left my house on the 20th of February, and came home between six and seven o'clock—he was not there—he did not return—he gave no notice of his going—I went to a box in my bed-room on the first floor—I usually keep that box value my bed—I found a poker on the top of it—it was broken open—I missed three silver watches, a jacket, shawl, handkerchief, and a belt—the jacket was found again in the coal-hole, where the basket was missing from—I should think all the property I missed was worth 8l.—the prisoner denied knowing any thing of it.

Prisoner. She lent me the shawl a fortnight before I left. Witness No, I never lent it him.

LUCY CAWLEY . I am the wife of Peter Cawley, of Spring-garden-place, Pimlico. I saw the prisoner coming from Mrs. Hayes with a basket with rope handles—I knew it, and asked if he had got work—he said no, but he was to have two places next week—I said was glad of it—there was a boy who, I think, was speaking to him, but just as I spoke to him they parted—this was about four o'clock on the 20th of February.

Prisoner. It was in the morning I saw her—I was going for potatoes.

Witness. I saw him in the morning, and he had the basket, and I believe be same was boy with him.

JOHN LAMBERT (police-constable L 29.) The prisoner was brought to the station-house, on the 12th of March, on a charge of stealing three watches—I found a boot on his foot.

MARY HATES re-examined. I am quite sure I never allowed him to wear this boot—it was left by another lodger to get mended—it was in a closet in the room where the prisoner slept—that was not the room where the box was—the poker and the key of the first-floor room were taken from the kitchen—I did not miss the things till the next day, when I went I get a cap to put on.

Prisoner. She had told me that if I could not get the money to pay her I must not stop there. Witness. I did not—I said if he could get work I would give him victuals the first week, but he must endeavour to get work—he persuaded my little girl to come to me at my day's work to tell me that my little boy had played the truant at school, and he had not.

WILLIAM STRANKS (police-constable N 155.) I produce a certificate from Mr. Clark's office—I know the prisoner—I was present when he was tried before—he is the the person described in this certificate—(read).

GUILTY of stealing the basket and boot.

Confined Six Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1051
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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1051. ELLEN M'CARTHY, ELIZABETH WATTON, SARAH EVANS, ANN JONES, MARY BATEMAN, JANE FREELAND , and ISABELLA PAGE , were indicted for stealing, on the 24th of March, watch, value 3l.; 1 watch-ribbon, value 1s.; 1 watch-key, value 2d.; 1 pair of trowsers, value 15s.; 1 pair of shoes, value 5s.; 1 pair of braces, value 6d.; 1 handkerchief, value 3s.; 2 half-crowns, 3 shillings 1 sixpence, pence, and 4 halfpence; the goods and monies of Thomas Thompson.

SAMUEL GREEN (police-constable H 61.) On the morning of the 24th March, before three o'clock, I was on duty in Wentworth-street, and saw Thomas Thompson—he had got a jacket and waistcoat on, and a pair of drawers, but no trowsers, shoes, or neck-handkerchief—he was standing in Wentworth-street, against a door-way—he complained of being robbed—went to the second floor of a house in Essex-street—when I got to the top of the landing, I saw the prisoner, M'Carthy, holding a pair of trowsers before her, coming out of the room—I said, "Halloo, what have you got there?"—she ran into the adjoining room, which was the back-room two pair and threw them underneath the bed—as soon as I had picked them out from underneath the bed, I said, "I have got the trowsers, where is the watch?"—she paid, "I know nothing about the watch, the watch is here"—while I was kneeling, I saw her go to a fife-place, and stoop I went and looked, and found two half-crowns, three shillings, one sixpence, and three penny pieces, and half the glass of a watch, among the dust, under the stove, where she was stooping—we then returned into the front-room two pair, from which she came with the trowsers—the sergeant was in that room—I said, "Look out, the watch is in this room, some-where"—the sergeant looked about, and found the watch in that room—we then took the other six prisoners, who were all in the room, to the station-house—after that, I went to No. 107, Wentworth-street, to the first-floor backroom, and found a pair of men's shoes, and On the table, a black silk neck-handkerchief, which prosecutor claimed.

JAMES WALTON (police-sergeant H 3.) I went with Green to the house in Essex-street—I went into the room where the watch was found, while Green went into the back-room—the other six women were there—I saw M'Carthy come out of the room—the watch laid upside down on a chair in that room, at the back part of the bed—Page was sitting on the bed, and the rest were standing close to the same spot—they were all taken to the station-house—I went to No. 107, Wentworth-street—I found there 3d. and a watch-key lying on the floor, and three bonnets—the distance between the two houses is, I suppose, from fifty to sixty yards—I took the bonnets to the station-house—one was claimed by M'Carthy, another by Bateman and the other by Freeland—they were without bonnets when I took then—the other prisoners had their bonnets on.

McCarthy. Q. Did you see me with the prosecutor? A. No, none of you.

THOMAS THOMPSON . I live in Hermitage-street, St. George's-in-the—East, and am a lighterman. I had been drinking all that evening, till late hour—I recollect seeing two of these women at the last house I was in—I believe M'Carthy was one, and I think Bateman was the other—was very much in liquor, but I can just recollect they were in the last house I was in—they were standing before the bar, in the same public-house—I had about 12s. or 14s. in my pocket, at eleven o'clock, and watch—I had a pair of trowsers on—this is my watch—the cold awoke me—I was sitting on the step of a door, about three o'clock, as the policeman tells me—ray shoes and handkerchief were off—I had no halfpence in my pocket, that I know of—these shoes, trowsers, watch, and handkerchief, are all mine—I think I had four half-crowns—this is my watch-key—it was not on the ribbon—it was in my pocket.

M'Carthy. Q. Did you see me in the public-house? A. Yes—believe I gave you something to drink, I am not certain.

COURT. Q. Do you recollect any thing of Bateman? A. They were together—I cannot say any thing of the rest of them.

M'Carthy's Defence. I never saw Bateman till I went into the where she was—I never saw her from about nine o'clock at night till about three o'clock in the morning—I went to stir the fire, to give us a light and as I was going down stairs for some water, I picked up these trowsers at the bottom of the stairs, I put them on my arm, and threw then down—we had gone up, and left our bonnets in the room—when I bonnets were, we had had tea, with three girls, and when we were taken to the station-house, we told the officer to be so kind as to go and get them—I never saw the man.

Watton's Defence, I was going to bed—we had a room on the same landing as two of the other women—they knocked at the door and asked for a light, which I gave them, and then the officer came.

Evans's Defence. The watch was not on the chair when I went, home at twelve o'clock.

M'CARTHY— GUILTY . Aged 17.— Transported for Seven years.

WATTON and the others— NOT GUILTY .

Sixth Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1052
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1052. HENRY COVENTRY was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of April 1 handkerchief, value 3s. the goods of Joseph Knight, from his person.

JOSEPH Knight . I reside at Reading, and act as a traveller. I was in Duke-street, Lincoln's Inn-fields, at half-past one o'clock, on the 3rd of April—the prisoner had followed me some distance, and then went behind and crossed over to the other side of the street, retracing his steps, which Excited my suspicions—I felt, and missed my handkerchief—he ran off—I cross him—he met a constable and turned back—I collared him, and demanded my handkerchief, and he gave it to me out of his bosom.

GEORGE MARCH (police-constable F 78.) I heard an alarm—the prisoner was running towards me—he turned—I went up and took him—I saw the handkerchief pass from him to the prosecutor.

Prisoner. I was returning from a friend's—I saw something white lying the pavement—I took it up and crossed over the way—I then heard a of "Stop-thief—I ran to the corner of the street—two gentlemen came up, and I received a violent cut on the head from one of them.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1053
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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1053. GEORGE BRIGGS AVENELL and JERRARD BRUNIGES were indicted for stealing, on the 13th of March, 1 copper, value 7s. 6d., the hoods of Elias Hellen and another, and fixed in a certain building.

ELIAS HELLEN . The premises in Wiltshire-street, Hoxton, from which this copper was taken, belong to me and another person, as executors—the copper was fixed in the kitchen—I let the premises to Avenell—he gave one the name of George Briggs, and a reference to Mr. Avenell, No. 3, crown-street, Finsbury—he asked if there were any fixtures to be taken I—I said no, the fixtures belonged to the house—he was not to pay for them—I let the copper among the things—I sent my co-excuite inquiries at Mr. Avenell's—in consequence of the answer he was admitted into the house—the other prisoner I never saw till he was in custody—I had been to the premises after they were let—I think I let them before the the 13th of March—I found the copper removed—I believe this is it.

MR. PATNE. Q. Does this paper contain the terms upon which you le I the house? A. I let the house verbally—I made a memorandum of it afterwards, and the terms were reduced to writing, and signed by him.

ROBERT STEERS . I am one of the executors. I called at No. 3, I Crown-street, Finsbury, to see a person who wished to take a cottage of ours, to know Briggs's character—he said he lodged at that house—I was to go to a Mr. Avenell to inquire into his character—I went there, and saw the prisoner Bruniges—I asked him if Mr. Briggs resided there—he said, "Yes"—he said Mr. Avenell was out of town, and would be for two or three days—I said, "I dare say you will do, is Mr. Briggs here?"—he said, "No, he will be in at his dinner"—I said,"Is he a lodger?"—he said, "Yes"—I said, "Is he sober, honest, and industrious?"—"Yes," said he, "and what is better, he pays his rent to a day, and his wife has a small allowance from her mother, which would indemnify you from any loss"—he gave him a good character.

Cross-examined. Q. Are you quite sure that it was Bruniges you saw? A. Yes—I never said I saw a young man whom I belived to be Brunnigs.

MATTHEW PEAK (police-constable G 198.) On the 13th of March I under the prisoner Bruniges, in the Curtain-road, carrying a copper under his arm—I said, "Where did you get that from?"—he said,"From

my brother, at Shacklewell; I am going to take it to my father's; he is going to have it fixed"—I said, "Where does be live?"—he said, "At No. 5, Skinner-street"—I said, in going along, "I suppose your father will show me where it is going to be fixed?"—he said, "I don't know that he can"—I then took him to the station-house—he said it was no use giving me the dance to Shacklewell; if I would go to No. 2, Wiltshire-place I should hear all about it—I went there, and some woman came to the door—Briggs or Avenell came out of the parlour, and said he had sent his young man with a copper, which had a hole in it, to his father's to be mended—when I was going to take him out of the house he said, "Cannot you settle this business?"

THOMAS ROBINSON . I know this copper—(looking at it)—I repaired it in that house.

Cross-examined. Q. How do you know it? A. By my work upon it—the work ought to last six or seven months—I cannot tell How long ago I mended it.

GEORGE THOROGOOD . I am a bricklayer. I set this copper at No. 2, Wiltshire-place, Hoxton, on the 11th of January last.

CHARLES VAISEY . I am a china-dealer. On the 15th of February then prisoner Avenell ordered some glass of me—he did not give any name—I took it to No. 3, Crown-street, and delivered the first little parcel to his wife—I delivered the goods for ready money—I saw the other prisoner, Bruniges—he had the large portion of the goods—they lived in the same house.

Cross-examined. Q. How do you know it was Avenell's wife? A. I have seen her since, and she represented herself so—I had seen Avenell before—he bought a small portion three days before, which came to 10s. 4d.—the other parcel came to 3l. 8s.

ELI AS HELLEN re-examined. I saw this copper safe in the beginning of January—Avenell took the house at 30l. a-year.

MATTHEW PEAK re-examined. I was ordered by the Magistrate to fill the copper, to see if it ran out, and it did not—there was no hole in it—I took the prisoner on the 13th of March.

(Witness for the Defence.)

ANN CARPENTER . I am the sister of Avenell's wife, and live in the house with them at Hoxton. I remember, on the 13th of March, coming down, and finding the copper gone—I went up stairs, and told my brother and sister, who were in bed—my brother appeared angry and surprised.

COURT. Q. How many people live in that house? A. My sister, brother, and two children, and myself—his name is George Briggs Avenell—Bruniges lived there—I remember the copper being in the back kitchen—I have seen it all secure—I cannot tell How it was taken—Bruniges worked for my brother-in-law, and knew the house very well.

(The prisoners received good characters.)



Confined Six Months.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1054
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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1054. WILLIAM BEST was indicted for stealing, on the 7th of March, 5 wooden posts, value 1s. 3d.; and 2 wooden rails, value 3d.; the goods of William Brown.

SILAS STRANGE . I live with William Brown, at Harlington. He lost some wooden posts and rails from round his meadows—they were put up to keep his cows in—the rails were nailed on the top, and

the posts fixed in the ground—the prisoner lived in a little low cottage three hundred or four hundred yards from Mr. Brown—we found the posts and rails in his garden at the back of his house—he put them up to make a pig-stye—they are here—they are elm—I know them because they are elm wood—I can swear to them—I helped to put them up—I drove some nails in to nail the rails on—some of them might have been loose—I can not say.

THOMAS BRAY . I am a constable. Last Tuesday morning Mr. Brown sent for me, and said he had lost a large quantity of posts and rails at sundry times, and he had a suspicion that some of them were on Best's premises—I got a search warrant, went with the servant, and found these five posts and two rails.

Prisoner's Defence. I was going to work one morning about seven o'clock, and found these on the road—I took them, and brought them home about five o'clock in the evening—I did not know whether they had dropped off a cart or what.


OLD COURT.—Friday, April 6th, 1838.

First Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1055
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1055. WILLIAM GREEN was indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of March, 2 nose-bags, value 10s., the goods of Charles Barclay, and others; and that he had been before convicted of felony.

JAMES SMITH . I am a policeman. On the 23rd of March I saw the prisoner at the corner of Angel-alley, Whitechapel, with these two nose-bags across his shoulder, at a quarter before six o'clock in the evening—I asked him How he came by them—he said they were given to him to hold by a man named Hookey, who was gone into the City, and who worked for a lady—I found that to be false, and found the owner—I took him to the station-house.

BENJAMIN JOHNSON . I am a drayman to Messrs. Charles Barclay, and Co., brewers. I was out on the 23rd of March—my dray was in Billiter-street, very nearly half a mile from Angel-alley—my horses were standing there—they had the nose-bags on—I put them on before I went—I was absent about half an hour from the dray—when I returned I found one off my shafts, and one off my mate's—I do not know the prisoner—I never saw him till at Lambeth-street—I know these to be ray master's property.

EDWARD BRABY . I superintend the nose-bags and harness of Messrs. Barclay and Co.—these two nose-bags are my master's.

Prisoner's Defence. I was coming from Angel-alley—a young man asked me if I would mind these two nose-bags for him till he came back out of the City—I put them across my shoulder, and had them when the officer came up—he asked me How I came by them—I told him—he took me to the station-house, and found out who they belonged to.

JAMES HOWARD . I am a policeman. I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction from Mr. Clark's office—(read)—I was a witness against him—he is the person.

GUILTY . Aged 23.— Transported for Fourteen Years.

Before Lord Chief Justice Tindal

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1056
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1056. ANN KIMBLE was indicted for unlawfully, maliciously, and feloniously assaulting Ann Elizabeth Shepherd, on the 3rd of April, and cutting and wounding her upon her forehead, with intent to main and disable her.—2nd COUNT, stating her intent to be to do her some grievous bodily harm.

ANN ELIZABETH SHEPHERD . I am the wife of Christopher Shepherd, a private soldier in the 1st Regiment of Guards. The prisoner lodged in the same house as I did in Belton-street for five or six months, or, perhaps, more—I had had a quarrel with her last Saturday—in consequence of that I went to Bow-street—she issued a warrant against me, and I went there on Tuesday, and was discharged—she threatened me very much with what she would do to me when we got home—she said she would be the death of me, and threatened my life repeatedly—I went home, went up stairs, pulled off my cloak, and was coming down stairs—I had a glass bottle in my hand—she was standing on the first-floor landing-place, coming upstairs—she had got her bonnet and cloak off, and was swearing she would murder me, and be the death of me—she did not say any thing more to me, but knocked me down, and when I fell down she took the bottle from me—I was trying to pass her—she took the bottle out of my hand, and hit me with it across the head, on my forehead, above my eye, where I have the plaster—it cut my forehead—(I went to Charing-cross Hospital)—the blood came—the bottle was broken with her hitting me—she held it by the neck—after that she hit my right fourth finger with her teeth—the blow stunned me, so that I cannot tell whether she threw the bottle down—she bit my finger almost through to the bone—she kicked me with her feet, and bit me with her teeth—I found her doing so when I came to myself—she beat me about my head, and kicked me about my body—I called out as well as I was able, and went down stairs to the shop—I never had any quarrel with her till Saturday—I never spoke to her when I came down with the bottle in my hand.

Prisoner. Q. When I met you on the stairs, what did you say to me.? A. I never spoke to her, nor opened my mouth—the Magistrate told me not to speak to her if she insulted me, but, if she used me ill, to come and take a warrant for her—I never spoke to her afterwards till I saw her in the office—I never spit at her.

COURT. Q. What were you doing with the bottle? A. I was going to take it down stairs to the person it belonged to—it was an empty bottle—it was about three o'clock—I had not dined—I had only just come from Bow-street—I had had the bottle three or four days—I had nothing in it that day—I got home first from Bow-street—we did not walk home together—no one was on the stairs—the people had all shut their doors.

SAMUEL SUTTON . I am a policeman. Last Tuesday afternoon I was in Seven Dials, and was called to No. 33, Belton-street, about half-past three o'clock—I met the prosecutrix at the door, and found her bleeding very profusely from the head and face—one of her fingers was bleeding—I went after the prisoner—she was in the front attic—the door was closed and locked—I asked her to open the door—she refused to do so—the prosecutrix went to Bow-street, and shortly after, Shackell, the Bow-street officer, came back and took her into custody—during the time he was gone to the office, I picked up the remnants of a bottle on the first floor landing, which I produce—it is a small half-pint bottle, broken into a great number of pieces—the blow must have been given with great violence—the prosecutrix's face was completely covered with blood, so that I could not distinguish where the wound was—I believe she went to the surgeon—I saw the wound after it was dressed.

ANN ELIZABETH SHEPHERD re-examined. I went to a surgeon at charing-cross Hospital—he probed the wound, to see if there was any glass it, and then dressed it.

Prisoner's Defence. When I fetched the warrant for her she treated me very ill—I never lifted my hand or my finger at her—she told the Magistrate I called her a w—, but I did not—I cannot say any thing else—I ever struck her before, and never had such a thought in my head—about four months ago she called three of them together, and they told my master different stories, which are untrue, about me, and they set this woman on call me every thing that was bad, and to beat me—they never did beat me but threatened me on Sunday, three or four months ago, How they would serve me—it always caused me and my master to live unhappy through them.

GUILTY. Aged 28.—Recommended to mercy .— Confined One Year.

Before Lord Chief Justice Tindal

2nd April 1838
Reference Numbert18380402-1057
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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1057. ROBERT MIERS was indicted , for that he on the 28th of January, unlawfully, maliciously, and feloniously did set fire to a certain house in his was possession, in the parish of St. Marylebone, with intent to injure and defraud John Rogers, Chairman, for the time being, of the Union Society for affecting insurance from fire, &c.—2nd COUNT, stating his intent to be, to injure and defraud Thomas Lewis, Secretary of the said society—3rd COUNT, stating the house to belong to John Warden, and his intent to be, injure and defraud him.

MESSRS. F. KELLY, CLARKSON, and DOANE, conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS LEWIS . I am secretary to the Union Fire Office—Mr. John Rogers is the chairman of that society—we were both filling those situations the 20th of last January. I produce a policy of Insurance effected by the prisoner, Mr. Miers, on the 12th of January, 1838—this insures 300l. on household furniture, apparel, plate, printed books, wine and other liquors in private use, (the words are written in the form, not printed;) 10l. on china, glass, and looking-glass plates; 50l. on watches and trinkets; and 2500l. on utensils and stock in trade, in his dwelling-house, 28, High-street, Marylebone—this is the second policy—here is also a former policy efflected by the prisoner—it is dated 20th of January, 1837—the items are the same in this as the other, except the stock, which was 3000l.—in the second is reduced to 2500l., which is 500l. less than the first I produced—the stock, in this policy, is represented to be in his dwelling-house, 184, oxford-street—it is in the same words as the other.

Q. Will you be, so good as to look at the first policy, and tell me whether there is aa indorsement on it denoting that the goods had been removed? A. Yes; that is on the policy of the 20th of January, 1837—be indorsement is dated 2nd of June, 1837, and states, "Removed to his swelling-house only, situated No. 28, High-street, Marylebone"—that policy was cancelled by the other being issued—there is no formal canceling at the back of it—that is not our course of business—the date of it is 20th of January, 1837, but it commences from the 25th of December, 1836, on the 25th of December, 1837, and then expires, as it is from year to year—the latter policy commences from the 25th of December, 1837.

GEORGE CAMPION . I have been agent for the Union Insurance Office or the Eastern parts of the Metropolis—I know the prisoner—I never saw him tell he called on me after the fire—I knew his brother—it was on

Monday morning, the 22nd of January, that the prisoner called on me, in consequence of what passed between us, I accompanied him that day the Union Insurance Office.

Q. Did you afterwards, at the suggestion of the prisoner, or with prisoner's consent, act for him in preparing with him any statement of loss? A. Yes—I went with him in the first place to Mr. Toplis, to with him—Mr. Toplis is the general agent of the office—the Insurance office is in Cornhill—I prepared, at the prisoner's dictation, a statement his claim—(Mr. Toplis here produced the claim)—this is the claim I made out—I sent that to Mr. Toplis on the 1st of February—I prepared that papers produced to me by the prisoner, and from statements he made—I had perhaps four or five interviews with the prisoner before it was completed. he furnished me with the particulars out of which I made the inventory—had those interviews with him in my own office in Bishopsgate-street—I accompanied me to Mr. Toplis in the first instance.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Where did you sign this? A. In my own office—Mr. Toplis was not present—this is not the original that the prisoner gave me—he did not give me this—he gave me papers from which I took it—there was a rough draft made out by me at first—it is not the only draft I drew out by his directions—he had a copy of it—I drew it out in my book in the first instance.

Q. Did the prisoner ever correct a draft that you drew up, "stating that it was incorrect and full of errors? A. Yes—that was a second claim—this bears date the 1st of February—that is the true date of it—it was signed by me on the 12th of February—it was signed on the day it bean date, or thereabout—it was presented to the prisoner, and he looked over it before it was delivered—I signed it about that date, or previous it—it was made out for the inspection of my employer.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Take that in your hand again—you see at the end of the entitling of it is written, "by George Campion, auction and valuer, Bishopsgate-street, February 1st, 1838?" A. Yes—it was delivered on that day—I have again signed it at the end as a declaration—that was on the 12th, when we both appeared before Mr. Toplis—nothing passed after the delivery of it on the 1st between the prisoner, myself or Mr. Toplis on the subject of the inventory, except the appointment an interview to go into it—no alteration was made in that copy between the 1st, when I delivered it to Mr. Toplis, and the 12th, when I delivered it as a statement—after Lmade out that inventory I made out a copy for the prisoner and I had a conversation with him on the evening of the on the subject of his copy—that was previous to this being subscribed me, and dated 12th February—this is the copy I delivered to the prisoner—(looking at it)—I gave him that copy three or four days previous to the 12th—I had some conversation with him at my office on the evening of the 12th, before we went to Mr. Toplis—he then said the original inventory was incorrect—he said things had been stated in error in my original copy, and were not on the premises on the night of the fire—he brought his copy to me with some articles struck out, stating that they were not on the premises at the time of the fire, and that the statement was incorrect in that respect—he did not give me any intimation of that before the 12th of February—the first correction I observe is written in the margin respecting the wine and spirits, at page 5—there is written in the margin that the spirits and wine were in the parlour-closet instead of the wine-bin—I cannot say in whose writing these marginal notes are—that is the way in which the prison brought

it to me—in page 7 the balance ivory-handled knives and forks, valued at guineas; twenty-four ditto, dessert, 1l. 14s., and one pair of carvers, 8s., in the back parlour ground floor, are all struck out; and in the margin is written, Mistake, sold to Midgley about June last"—the next is at page 5, two large clothes-brushes, 5s., in the front room, second floor—they are struck out, and twice entered" written in the margin—the next articles are under the head of w apparel, two black silk handkerchiefs, 10s. "twice entered" is written in the margin, and the articles struck out—the next is under the head baby-linen, six long muslin robes, 5l. 10s.; six muslin petticoats, 1l. 10s.; 6 monthly gowns, 2 guineas; six long cloth night ditto, 1l. 4s.; four night flannels, 1l. 18s.; six day flannels, 2l. 12s.; twelve diaper napkins, 18s.; twelve lawn shirts, 1l. 10s.; twelve fine diaper pinafores, 1l. 4s. six French cambric caps, 25s.; six lace ditto, 10s.; one satin pincushion, 15s., these were all struck out—under the head of Mrs. Mien's wearing apparel, there are dresses, 5l. 10s., struck out, and "mistake" written in the margin; six pockets, 6s., struck out, and "mistake" written in the margin; one India crape dress, 1l. 10s., "not our own" written in the margin; one ging-ham umbrella, struck out, and "twice entered" written in the margin—under the head of watches and trinkets there is, silver bells and coral, page 7, struck out, and the words "see Midgley" written in the margin—those are the whole of the alterations suggested by the prisoner on the 2th of February—the alterations were already made in the list when he brought it it to me—those are the alterations between the copy delivered to Mr. Toplis on the 1st, and the one the prisoner brought me on the 12th.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Now, Mr. Campion, did not the prisoner refuse to sign that inventory as of the date of the 1st of February? He refused to sign it altogether—he did not refuse on the ground that dough it was to be signed on the 12th, I was dating it as if it was signed on the 1st—I am not aware that he offered to sign his own corrected list, did not, to my knowledge—he did not sign it, and therefore Mr. Toplis failed on me to sign the declaration—he did not offer to sign his own corrected list, to my knowledge—I should think I could not forget it if he did—he did not, to my knowledge—how can I swear positively? I know of to such thing—Mr. Toplis, Mr. Rickards, and his clerk, were present. Q. On your oath, did not Mr. Toplis interfere to prevent Mr. Miers signing his own corrected list? A. Not to my knowledge—I have no recollection of it—I never heard him offer to sign it—he refused to sign one list I believe because he said it was incorrect—he said it was incorrect, and therefore he would not sign it—it was the first one he refused to sign, which is the one I had made out, which he had not corrected, dated the 1st of February, and that is the inventory I signed for him on the 12th—he refused a sign the inventory—I cannot say whether he refused to sign the declaration at the end of it—Mr. Toplis asked him on the 12th to sign the inventory, and he refused, on the ground that it was incorrect—it was after he refused to sign the inventory that I wrote this declaration, but the same night—that is a declaration of mine—I have read it—it is a declaration of mine—I do not conceive that Mr. Miers was asked to sign that declaration—I believe he was not, because it is a declaration of my own—I can say no more.

Q. Now, were you acting as his agent, as well as agent of the Union? A. In that capacity I was not acting for the Office, but for him, and I expected to be paid by him—I got the whole of his books, for what I know, as his agent—he delivered them himself to Mr. Toplis on the 12th of February—I did not deliver them.

Q. How many books had you from him to help to make out these accounts? A. (reading)"Delivered to Mr. Campion, all my books as follows:—one ledger, one day-book, one stock-book, one paper case, containing invoices, and one brown paper parcel containing bills of parcels, signed Robert Miers"—the declaration at the end of the inventory is not in my handwriting, it is Mr. Toplis's—the signature is mine.

Q. Now I ask you, did not Mr. Toplis, in your presence, twice delivery pen with ink in it into the prisoner's hands, and ask him to sign that declaration before you signed it? A. I am not aware of it—I believe not—it did not take place that I know of—I will not swear positively—he did either not the pen into his hands, or offer it to him to sign the inventory, but I because not to sign the declaration—I am not aware of his asking him to do so—I believe he did not—not the declaration—I was present—he did not put the pen into his hands, and ask him to sign the declaration in my presence hearing, that is my present impression—I know of no such thing—I have been an agent to the Union for some years—I have acted in a good many claims and concerns in effecting insurances.

Q. When you were employed by Mr. Miers, did you tell him you had occasionally acted as agent for the Union in effecting insurances? A. Yes, he insured through me—I gave him a copy of the first inventory—he applied for it one day, and I think he had it the next—I think it was about the 9th that I furnished him with the copy—he applied for it somewhere about the 8th—I believe it was about the 8th or 9th—it was certainly not the 6th or 7th that he applied—I am now looking at my inventory book—I think it was about the 8th I furnished him with the copy—I have not the day entered—it is possible it may have been on the 6th that he applied to me—I have said before it was about the middle, between the 1st and the 12th.

MR. KELLY. Q. I think the 4th of February was on a Sunday, are you sure it was not till after Sunday, the 4th of February, that he applied to you for the copy? A. It was after Sunday, the 4th of February—when I delivered the first inventory (No. 1.) to Mr. Toplis, on the prisoner's authority on the 1st of February, it had not this declaration on it—I then delivered it as a claim of Mr. Miers so far as he had insured—Mr. Miers came to me again about the time mentioned, and stated that there were several things which were wrong, and asked me to make him a copy for his own private use—I do not recollect any thing he particularly mentioned then except the coral—he said he had no copy of the slips of paper he had given me and he wished to have a copy for his private use to see what was claimed—I do not recollect any thing else taking place then—he took the copy away next day—I think he mentioned the bells and coral on the first day—he said there were several things incorrect, and I think he mentioned the bells and coral—he said that the lists that were given me were made out in enter—I think I gave him the copy the next day—this is the copy I gave him, (No. 2,) the day or two days after he asked for it—I really cannot recollect whether I had any further conversation with him respecting the corrections or mistakes when I gave him the copy—I think I saw him once or twice after, between then and the 12th, on the subject of the details.

Q. Do you remember on either of those occasions, or on any occasions down to the 12th, whether he pointed out or spoke of any other errors, omissions, or corrections, except such as appear on that copy? A. I really cannot recollect—I have no recollection that he said there were any other errors—I saw him on the 12th in Mr. Toplis's office—we met there by appointment—I had made the appointment with Mr.

Miers about seven o'clock in the evening—we met at Mr. Toplis's own private house in Bridge-street—only one inventory was produced in the first instance—that was No. 1.—Mr. Toplis produced it—he had it previously—I believe Mr. Miers was requested to sign it—he then said he could not sign it because there were many errors in it—then Mr. Miers produced the copy I had given him, (No. 2,) which was intended for his own private use, marked as to errors—it was produced as altered by him-self, with the alterations which have been read—I have no recollection that the pointed out any errors besides those which were altered—Mr. Toplis asked him many questions about No. 2.—I cannot recollect exactly the particulars—there was a great deal of conversation between Mr. Toplis and the prisoner.

Q. I see, with regard to the amount of stock, these two statements completely agree as to the loss sustained at the fire, 3217l. 9s. 8d.—I want to know whether, during the whole of the conversation, any objection was made, or any error stated to have been committed with respect to the amount of the stock? A. I believe not—as far as I recollect, no error was pointed out except those mentioned in No. 2.—I think I recollect now that Mr. Toplis, after Mr. Miers refused to sign No. I, asked him to sign the other, No. 2.—I think so—I think he refused to sign it—he certainly did not sign it—I signed nothing except this declaration—I think we separated about half-past ten o'clock—we had been together from seven o'clock till half past ten o'clock.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you make out the copy for the prisoner on a Saturday night, and sit up till twelve o'clock to do it? A. I think it could not be on a Saturday night—I said I thought it was on the 8th or 9th—the 9th would have been Friday night—I do not think it could be Saturday night—it must have been on Friday night—I generally go out of town about five o'clock on Saturday nights, and I believe I did so that night—it could not be on Saturday night, according to the impression on my mind—I am not aware that I apologised to the prisoner on the Monday night, saying that it was not finished, and I wanted an additional paper to make it up—it could not have been on Monday, the 5th, that I delivered it.

Q. What makes you say, with any degree of certainty, that it was after Sunday, the 4th, you made the copy? A. I believe it was on the 8th or 9th—I have nothing entered relating to it—I have no book with me in which I enter what I do on any particular day, or How I pass my time—I have a day-book where the time is entered—that book is at home—I have no objection to bring it—this book I have here is a mere diary—here is entered on Monday, the 5th of February, "Received a letter of appointment from Mr. Toplia, and sent to make proper arrangements with Mr. Robert Miers—when I went to make that proper arrangement he was not in the way—It is not stated in that book that he was not in the way.

Q. Now, Mr. Campion, I see you have entered very minutely in this book a great many things concerning Mr. Miers, will you be kind enough to tell me whether you have any entry at all as to when you made out the copy for him? A. If I had I could have answered you—I have not answered any thing positively, only as to the impression on my mind—you would not have me state that which I do not know—there is an entry on the 9th of February—"Robert Mieres's"—"advertisement"—that does not relate to Mr. Miers—it was merely put down to remind me of certain things first respecting Mr. Miers, and next respecting an advertisement I had to

put in the paper—I do not recollect that I have any other diary but this book, but we have a day-book.

MR. JAMES TOPLIS . I am a surveyor and appraiser, and act as agent for the Union and several other offices. I understood that Mr. Miers had insured some property in High-street, in the Union office—I heard of the fire on the Sunday morning—I believe the fire was on the Sunday morning, the 21st, and I was there about twelve o'clock at noon—I have general instructions from the office to investigate claims, and I took that step here—I met Mr. Campion on the Tuesday, as the agent of Mr. Miers—I declared his claim to be sent in, with a specification of the loss, and this inventory No. 1, was delivered to me on the 1st of February—it had not them the declaration at the end—in other respects it was exactly as it is now—the stock is mentioned in one round sum of 3200l. and odd pounds—no specification or intimation was given me at that time as a what that stock was, except what appears in that paper—I gave directions to have a specification of the stock charged to that amount—no books, papers, or vouchers were produced to me when that inventory was first delivered—I had appointments for Mr. Campion to attend me prior to the 12th of February, but they were not kept—we at last met by appointments on the 12th of February—until that time I had never seen the prisoner on this matter—I did not know him at all—at that interview I requested the particulars of his stock, and he produced to me some papers relating to as old stock taking.

Q. Had he before that put in his copy of the inventory? A. I cannot say which was done first—it was all simultaneous—he handed in an inventory which I have marked on the cover, No. 2.—when I asked him for the particulars of his stock, he produced some papers, which I have put together in the form they were in when I received them—he said they were the particulars of the stock taken on August 31, 1836—I asked him for the particulars of his private mark, which he gave me,—I have it here in his own handwriting—he said he had been engaged in making out the detail of the stock, and handed to me a list as far as he had gone—this is the list, which with these papers were given to him when he went away, and I became possessed of them at the hearing before the Magistrate—this list was, as I understood from him, a detail of the stock on the premises at the time of the fire as far as he had gone with it—he said the stock on August 31st, 1837, was as he stated in the several papers, and handed me papers of goods bought since, and here they are, and there is also a list of goods bought before—in support of the statement of the cash, he had taken since the stock was taken in 1836, he handed me in that paper, stating that the books which would have told the transactions were burnt—this was cash taken for goods sold—there were no other papers in reference to the stock—he brought his books, which I have here—he said two books, a cash-book, and what he termed a small ledger, which would have told the whole of the transactions had been burnt—other books had been preserved, and those he produced—I asked him How it was he gave me an account of the cash taken if the books were destroyed—he said he had received that account from his brother, that his brother attended once or twice a week, as he was largely indebted to him, and took from his books the account of the cash taken—he handed me a vast number of bills of parcels to confirm the buying which had taken place, to the amount of 400l.—many of the papers are duplicates—he left me with a promise to finish the detail account of the stock, which was to come to the sum he stated—I did not return the bills to him—I returned the stock-paper, and the account rendered of the

stock burnt—he did not ask for the books—I returned him all he wanted, and he promised to complete the account, to sustain the sum he had claimed—he did not say that there was any thing incorrect in the amount of the stock—no error whatever was pointed out as to the amount of the stock—I do not recollect whether the inventory or the stock papers were produced first—the inventory, No. 2., was produced with some erasures and corrections on it—he said he wished to take them out—I asked him to sign the original claim, No. 1., which it is the custom to get signed—he refused to sign it, and I wrote the declaration at the end of it as a qualification for him to sign it—Mr. Campion said he would sign it, and did—the prisoner himself refused to sign it—the declaration was put before him to sign, and he refused—(Declaration read)—"I hereby declare this claim to be made out from instructions and list given by Mrs. Miers, with the assistance of her servant and Mr. Miers; cut it is admitted that Mr. Miers shall have the opportunity to make such alterations as he can prove are in error—otherwise he hat refuted to sign the above—signed, GEORGE CAMPION. 12th February, 1838."

Q. He did not sign it? A. No, the alteration was made to meet hit views—the addition was made because he said he would sign it if it was added, but he refused to sign it, and on his doing to, a discussion took place respecting the corrections he had made in his copy of the inventory—he said Mrs. Midgley, the sister of hit wife, was about to be confined, and the baby linen had been lent to her, and the child's coral and bells—there is a note written in the margin "See Midgley" against that—I understood him that the coral was at Midgley's—I do not remember any thing else being said about the child's coral—I asked him what he meant by erasing some of these things, what was I to understand? (I had before this received certain information from some of the police), he said he had taken tome things to a house, he did not know the street, it was to a coffee top, a friend of Midgley, where he was known—I asked him if he had been there since he had left them—he said no, he thought he could find the shop, but did not know the person's name—he said that Midgley had been in his service up to May, and since May he had only had a boy and no shopman—he said Midgley had taken a shop, and fitted it up, in Crawford-street—that he advertised three times to open it, but had not opened it—I do not know that he said why in express words, but the meaning was that he could not obtain stock sufficient—he said he (the prisoner) had kept from four to six shopmen in Oxford-street from his commencement in October, 1835, I think till March, 1837, when he left—he said he considered his stock of the same value when he left Oxford-street, as when he took stock "August, 1836-it is stated as 3000l. odd in the paper—he said the stock was of that value—in the written inventory it is reduced to 2910l—he states it in a debtor and creditor's account—the turn of 1202l. 13s. it the amount "If stock he was getting forward to deliver to me—he gave me that, being the detail of the stock as far as he had gone, and I apprehend the numbers on it refer to the number of divisions or drawers, because he produced a plan of the shop—this paper is the statement of the stock at far at it went, but which he was to complete.

Q. Before he left on the evening of the 12th of February, did he say any thing as to How the fire happened? A. I asked him the particulars—he said he had turned off the gat before he left the shop, and went into his Parlour, he had been there a considerable time taking his supper, and from eleven to half-past eleven o'clock (I think he said) Mrs. Miers went up stairs to bed, the servant attending her to warm the bed—about half an

hour after, he went up stairs—his wife was in bed, and the servant is the room—that she stopped some few minutes, and then came down that the servant was down a short time, and I understood went up to call him, or told him that there was fire in the shop—he came down stairs, unlocked the door leading into the shop, which had a glass sash, and the shop was full of smoke—he returned up stairs to his wife, told her to get up and dress herself, for the shop was on fire—he soon came down stairs, and he and the servant procured a small quantity of water, and threw on the fire, and he left it—he said he had lost the two books I have referred to, but I understood nothing else but those, not of his books and papers—I asked him what servants he had—he told me he had taken a boy on the Friday preceding the fire, who was the only servant in the shop—he said he had taken the boy without a character, and the boy had gone out on Saturday afternoon to return at six o'clock, but had not returned, and he had not seen him since—he said he had given him leave to go out to fetch some things from Bermondsey—I understood him it was in the afternoon—he said the boy told him he had been in service at Chatham—he could not tell me the boy's surname, Christian name, or any thing about him—during the whole of the conversation he said nothing whatever of any error in his claim in respect of the stock.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How long altogether did the into view last between you and the prisoner? A. I should think about two hours—it took place at my house in New Bridge-street—the solicitor's clerk was present—he came there by my directions, and Mr. Richards called in while we were so engaged—they were there a great part of the time, and Mr. Campion also—the prisoner and Mr. Campion came together—the first thing that took place when they came into the room was, I told him that that gentleman was the solicitor's clerk; and when Mr. Richards came in I told him he was the solicitor to the office.

Q. Did you not say when the prisoner first came in with Mr. Campice, that you had merely sent for him to sign the claim sent in by him, and would not detain him longer than to sign it? A. Certainly not—I cannot tell the exact period at which I asked him to sign the claim—it is very likely I might ask him to do it when he first came in, I cannot tell—I will not swear I did not ask him to do so the very first thing when he came in—I will not swear whether I put a pen into his hand, and asked him to sign the claim or not—I did not make any memorandum of my questions or the prisoner's answers—my account is generally from my recollection—the prisoner did refuse to sign the first inventory—that was why the qualification was put at the end—I can say distinctly that the qualification was put before the prisoner to sign, and then I asked Mr. Campion to sign it—Mr. Campion said he would sign it—he said he would sign it to prove to me that he had the prisoner's instructions to make out the claim—he said so at the time—I cannot tell whether it was before I asked him to sign it, or after—I requested him to sign it—I do not recollect whether I put the pen into his hand myself—I will not swear about it—there were two ink-stands and pens on the table—I will not swear who took them up—I will not swear I did not put a pen first into the prisoner's hand, and ask him to sign it, because I cannot recollect whether I did or not.

Q. I understand you to say he spoke about some stock of Midgley's, was there any thing in the inventory about that? A. No, there is no account of stock, except his own—he said Midgley had obtained goods from houses in the City, not paid for, to the amount of 180l.—he never told

me those were some of the goods left at the coffee-house—he did not tell me he had not included Midgley's goods, of the value of 180l., in the general account as claimed—he did not say so in those terms—I will tell you what he did say, he said when Midgley found he could not open the shop, he had goods to the amount of about 120l., and those were sent to his (Miers's) house, but were not in the claim, for something else was done with them; they never went into his stock—he said the goods sent to his house were about 120l. worth, the residue of the 180l.—he did not say that he had not included them in the general account—I was examined before the Magistrate—my deposition was read over to me—I called at the office after it was shut, and the clerk read it to me, and I signed it—I was only examined once at the office.

(The Court read from the witness's deposition as follows:)—"He had supplied Midgley with various goods for persons, but, ultimately, the whole stock was removed to his (the prisoner's) house—that he considered them the value of 180l., or thereabout, but he had not included them in the general amount as claimed here."

Q. When you were before the Magistrate, did you state any thing at all of what the prisoner said to you about the mode in which the fire occurred? A. I cannot recollect at the present moment the precise statement—when I asked him what he meant by erasing these things, I alluded to the articles the amount of 39l. struck out in the inventory—it was on that he said what I have mentioned about the coffee-house—he said he did not wish to say any thing about Mr. Midgley's affairs, as he was in some degree of trouble.

Q. Now, with respect to the gas, did not he tell yon he had turned off the gas in the shop, but he could not turn it off at the main? A. I have on recollection of the word main being mentioned—I will not swear it was not, but I have no recollection of it—I have no recollection of his speaking of the had state of the pipe—my impression is, that he did not mention about the gas being faulty, either at my house or any where else, in my presence—I will not swear he did not mention about the deranged state of the gas-pipe in the conversation at my house, but I believe he never said a word about the gas-pipe—I have no recollection of his saying any thing about the frost—I will not swear he did not—after he gave me all the papers and books, and made the statement to me, he left with a promise to supply the remainder of the account in a few days.

Q. Was he not, on going away with that promise, taken into custody immediately by an officer whom you had planted there? A. I did not plant the officer—the commissioners of police did—it was not by my application—I did not apply to them—he was to come to my house—I knew the officer would be there, but my advice was not to take him—one of the officers was stationed in the adjoining room—he could not hear what took place—it was before the interview that I advised the officer not to take him—I did not understand, from my conversation with the prisoner, that some of the 180l. worth of goods were the goods that were taken to the coffee house—I will swear nothing of the kind occurred in the whole course of conversation, because he never mentioned stock—I did not tell the policeman, after the prisoner had gone away, he must not take him—the policeman went out of the door, I believe, before the prisoner did—I am always concerned for six Fire-offices, and I settle for ten sometimes—I was concerned for the Sun Fire-office in the case of a person named Jacobs, who

was prosecuted here, which was afterwards referred to Mr. Justice Patteson, before he was a Judge—I have been concerned for the Sun Fire-officer nearly twenty-eight years—I was examined as a witness on that occasion in this Court—the prisoner was acquitted after a trial of twelve hours and a quarter—I was a witness before the arbitrator—I gave evidence on the side of the Fire-office—I have not assisted in getting up this case, or subpoenaing witnesses—the man Jacobs did not recover his claim—he did not recover one farthing on his stock—the mortgagee recovered his amount, but the man nothing.

Q. When Mr. Miers went away, did you expect he had gone away to come back in a few days? A. If you will allow me to explain—when information came to the police of goods being left at the coffee-shop, and they came to tell me they thought they were goods abstracted from the fire, I said, "How do you know it is the same person? let him make his claim to the goods, and then we shall know, but you may go and take up an innocent man"—I did not see the policeman after the prisoner went away—I had my doubts whether the prisoner was the man who had left the parcels—I always had my doubt of it.

MR. KELLY. Q. Did you apply to the police, or did they come to you A. They came to me most earnestly urging his being taken—I set my face against it, and endeavoured all I could to dissuade them—it was contrary to my wish that any policeman came and took him.

(The claim, No. 1, made by the prisoner was here read in part. The account of stock was as follows:—)



£ s. d.

Value of stock as taken on the 31st of Aug., 1836, as per stock-book... 2910 8 0

To goods purchased since the above date, as per vouchers... 2587 16 8

To ditto, in smaller sums, the vouchers being destroyed by the late fire, but can prove them by the makers... 100 0 0

Profits on return of £2580 16s. 8d... 400 0 0

£5998 4 8


£ s. d.

By cash taken from the 31st August, 1836, to 20th January, 1838... 2580 15 ✗

By Boom debts, about... 200 0 ✗

By balance, the supposed loss by the Fire... 3217 9 ✗

£5998 4 0✗

To balance carried forward, £3217 9s. 8d.


Page £ s. d.

9. The balance on loss of the stock shown, as per papers delivered, the books in hand, or by a lengthened detail, as placed in all the various compartments of the shop, should it be particularly requested... 3217 9 8

9 Amount of fixtures and implements... 147 5 6

The Stock in trade, fixtures, and utensils... 3364 15 2

6 Household furniture, wearing apparel, plate, printed books, wine and other liquors... 380 5 0

7 Watches and trinkets... 45 7 6

7 China, glass, plate, and looking-glass... 24 12 0

£3814 19 8

(The claim. No. 2, was precisely the same, except that the articles stated in Mr. Campion's evidence were struck out.)

GEORGE TAYLOR . I live at No. 29, Molyneaux-street, which is about half a mile from High-street—one end of it comes into Queen-street, and the other leads to Edgware-road. On the night of Saturday, the 20th of January last, I happened to be at the corner of Weymouth-street, between twenty and twenty-five minutes past twelve o'clock—it leads into High-street—I knew the house that was occupied by the prisoner before it was burnt down—it was at the corner of a street called Bowling-street, in High-street, on the northern side of Bowling-street—Bowling-street runs into High-street—I observed smoke issuing from the shutters, carrying a smell of fire with it—I knocked at the shutters, but received no answer, and I went to the private door—I knocked at the private door, and was answered by a female, who I supposed to be a servant—she came to the door—it was Ann Wright—when she opened the door I asked if there was any thing the matter in the shop—she answered, "It is a hit of an accident"—I looked into the shop, and saw it was full of smoke—I went into the passage, and looked through a door, which was half glazed—that was open, and I could look into the shop—I saw smoke coming from underneath the stall board of the window—I said to the girl, why did she not give some alarm—I thought the place was all on fire—there was a good deal of smoke in the shop—I observed some woollen goods or shawls hanging up in the shop, and observed an appearance of light through the shawls—I saw one, two, or three lights—they were in different parts of the shop—I staid there about five minutes—I did not see the prisoner or any part of the family, but the servant—I left, and went to the adjoining house—the fire appeared to grow up very rapidly indeed—when I first observed it in the shop it was nothing more than smoke, and in less than five minutes after it was all in a flame—there were gas burners in the shop—I did not observe any fire coming from under the stall-board when I first went, but I did about a quarter of an hoar after, when I returned—two gas-burners appeared to be nearly over the stall-board, and one to be nearly over the counter—I did not observe any flame at all near the stall-board when my attention was first called to the smoke under it, but I did when I came back the second time—it was then all in a blaze—I gave an alarm to Mr. Bicknells, next door—when I first observed the smoke issuing from the shutters I was outside.

Q. Was there a considerable quantity or a small quantity of smoke when you first observed it? A. It appeared to be coming over the whole of the shutters at the crevices at the top—I smelt fire as well—the smoke appeared to come in considerable quantities when I first saw it.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. This was between twelve and one o'clock in the morning, I believe? A. It was—the shatters were closed—I was not able to discern a light between the crevices, only the smoke pouring through, similar to coming from a baker's shop—I believe there were several shawls in the shop, suspended on lines—I did not see any light from fire at first—I could not see the shawls afterwards—I saw a gas lamp burning at first—I saw that through the shawls—the shawls appeared to be hung across the gas lamp.

MR. Clarkson. Q. Then, according to your notion, did the gas appear to be burning in the proper gas-light? A. It did—I am positive of it, and that I observed through the shawls.

JOHN SIMMONDS I was a policeman in January last. I was on duty

on the night of the 20th of that month in High-street, and about half-past twelve o'clock a servant-girl came to me, and gave an alarm of fire—I went immediately to Mr. Miers's house, and went in at the side-door, in Bowling-street—that door opens into a passage, and then there is a glass door, which opens into the shop—the shop-door is in High-street—when I went in at the private door I looked through the glass door, and saw fire burning on the left-hand counter as I went in—it was a very small light, I should say, about a foot above the counter—Mr. Miers was in the passage as I went in—the same passage by which I entered—he was dressed the same as I am now, all but his hat—he had no hat on—his wife was with him—as I stood, the fire was on my left hand, at the stall-board, or counter.

GEORGE TAYLOR re-examined. Q. What is the thing you call the stallboard, from under which you saw the smoke coming? A. The bottom of a shop-window made for goods to show.

JOHN SIMMONDS (continued.) The fire appeared to me to be on the counter—I saw distinctly the fire on the counter, and a small blaze on the top of it—that was all I observed at that moment—Mr. and Mrs. Miers were in the passage, and Mr. Miers said to me, "Do what you can, my shop is on fire"—I then immediately inquired for some water, and he said, "We have not got a drop, we are entirely frozen out"—at this time the smoke was very dense—in the meantime, while inquiring for some water, the servant girl brought up a small bucket of water—I threw that on the flames as well as I could—I then inquired for some more, and while I was passing the tub back, the girl brought a second pail of water—I threw that in the same place, but found it had no effect whatever—I then said the best way would be to go away—the people outside had broken does the shutters, and let the draught in, and the flames were bursting about—I saw Mr. Miers give his wife, I cannot say what, but it appeared to me like a box—I dare say it was about the length of this testament—it was like a small tea-caddy—I can compare it to nothing else—there were some papers in it, and he said to her, "My dear, be careful of this"—I immediately went out, as the smoke was so bad, and that was all I saw.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you take Mr. and Mrs. Miers out with you, or did they go out? A. They went out I suppose—I did not take them out—it was not safe to stay there—the phrase Miers used to me was, "Do what you can for me, my shop is on fire"—nothing else.

Q. On the oath you have taken was it not this, "Policeman, for God's sake do what you can, my shop is on fire?" A. Well it was to a similar effect—I did not think you would come so close to me—I have told you the plain truth—I have left the police—if you will inquire of the Commissioners they will explain why, I shall not tell you unless his Lordship requests it.

COURT. You had better answer it.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Why have you left the police? A. I dare say it is what you have been addicted to yourself—taking a drop too much—now I have told you—I was dismissed for drunkenness.

Q. How many complaints had been made against you before you were finally dismissed? A. Am I bound to answer that?—if you will inquire of the Commissioners they will tell you—I cannot—they might be so many—I cannot tell you How many—if you ask the Commissioners that will do

Q. They were so many you cannot say? A. You may have it your own way—I shall not say any thing of the kind—I dare say there might be three complaints.

JEREMIAH BROWN . I am a hair-dresser, and live at No. 16, Great Marylebone-street, which leads into High-street. On the night of the he I was in Wimpole-street, and heard some person calling "Fire!"—I found the fire was at the prisoner's shop—it was about a quarter after twelve o'clock—there was a policeman there, and somebody dressed in plain clothes, who I believe was the witness Taylor—I saw smoke coming from the top part of the shutters—I did not observe the private door at that moment—I did within a minute after—it was in Bowling-street—it was men then, but I do not think it was open when I first went up—I went and got to the counter—I could discover a fire, but there was a number things hanging about my head, and the room was full of smoke—I palled as many things down off the lines as I could, about fifteen or twenty number—they were fancy woollen shawls, and cloaks, and things—had been in the shop once before, and knew the situation of it—I observed fire in the left-hand corner of the shop pointing to High-street—appeared almost as if it was some linen caught a light—it was not so at the stall-board of the window, not so high as the counter when I went in—as I pulled the things down, I could feel the counter quite to the window—the smoke was so much I drew the things down—fire was on the ground—I should not think it had got up above two from the ground—it very soon entirely consumed the shop—I took things out and returned, but did not get any more out—I had been the shop about a fortnight before that night—I had gone there to purchase something—I observed shelves about the shop when I went then—I did not make any observations as to the state of the shop—I consider was a small shop, and I should think there was very little stock in it, from that I could see—I was not able to obtain what I wanted—while I was here, two ladies came in and asked for black silk stockings—Mr. Miers in the shop—a parcel was shown to the ladies, containing black silk lockings—there were but two pairs as far as I could see—I saw no others produced to the ladies—they asked if he had any more—he said the quality of those was very good, he had no more, and the ladies went way—I went to buy a piece of mattress binding, but did not get it—did sot make any remark to my wife when I got home, as to the state if the shop.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS.—Q. What was the sum you intended lay out for the article you went to buy? A. I believe it is only about 5d. or 16d. a piece, and I wanted half a piece, that would be 7 1/2 d.—I was the shop before the ladies came in—I stood on one side to allow them to be served before me—I will swear I saw only two pairs of stockings in the parcel—I will not swear there was not three—I do not know whether I have always said that the ladies asked if he had more—his was rather before January—there was a very severe frost—I am quite sure I made no remark to my wife when I went home—some of the helves were nearly full of goods, or they might be full—I could not swear that—many of them were nearly or quite empty—I will not swear whether many of them were full or not.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did you observe that the shop was very indifferently stocked? A. I did—there were a great many empty shelves.

GEORGE MARRIOTT . I am an assistant jailer at Bow-street. I saw passing near Mr. Miers's house on the night of the fire, from a quarter half-past twelve—I could not say to five minutes—I saw smoke coming out at the door in Bowling-street—I shoved at the door, and saw Miers and a lady in the passage—I said, "The house is on fire"—locking to my left hand, I saw things burning in the shop, at the left hand side the shop—it appeared to me that there was fire—things on fire at the had of the counter and at the side of the counter—Mr. and Mrs. Miers we standing in the passage, at least a gentleman and lady—they were nothing at all—I did not go into the shop—I attempted to go up stairs think J went up two stairs, or it might be three—before I attempted to up I asked if any persons were up stairs, were there no lives to be saw—Mr. and Mrs. Miers were both standing there together, and Mrs. Miers said nobody was in the house but their two selves and the servant, and servant was gone to look for a policeman—I continued there a very minutes—when I had gone up two stairs, I came back and went out—did not see Mr. and Mrs. Miers after I came down the stairs—I met policeman with a pail of water in his hand—I said to him, "April water is of no use"—I cannot say what he did with it—I did not see thing more than the policeman with the pail of water after I had come down—I ran to the door, and inquired if the engines and turncock were and went out of the house—I stopped about there till five o'clock in morning, or between four and five—I should say the house was down in less than an hour—I think so.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. You were not before the magistrate, I believe? A. I was not.

JOHN COX DEAN . I am one of the firm of Orchard and Dean, ironmongers, in High-street. My house is about forty yards from the house when was occupied by Miers, on the other side of the way—I heard from my house an alarm of fire—I got up and went to the spot—the shop should were not down when I got there, they were up—I assisted in barring them—they fell outside, and I saw the flames issuing from shop—the flames and smoke were too intense to admit of my seeing the shop, and I do not think I could form any judgment of what was in the shop.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Were you before the magistrate? A. I was not.

JOHN THOMAS CLAREDGE . I lodge at No. 27, Weymouth-street, which I think, about sixty yards from Mr. Miers's house. I did not know he Miers personally previous to the fire—I had seen him at his door—I do not know that any one lodging in the same house with me know him—on the night of the fire I went to Mr. Miers's house about half past twelve—there was a man in a Mackintosh cloak, Mr. Miers, and the policeman there—directly after I entered the house Mrs. Miers came down stairs—she went to the house where I lodge—after taking Mrs. Miers then I went out again to the fire, and about three o'clock, when I went home, Mr. Miers was sitting by the side of Mrs. Miers by the fire—Mrs. Miers had remained there from the time of the fire till about a quarter after there o'clock, when they left—I found them together there when I went in—they were in deep conversation, which was principally carried on in whispers—they did not appear to be at all agitated—they appeared so calm and collected, that I mentioned it to somebody—they staid about a quarter of an

or twenty minutes after I got in, and then went away—I asked the prisoner if he had any idea of what was the cause of the fire—he said he had whatever, that he closed the shop about half-past eleven o'clock, and not in it again until after the alarm of fire was given—I did not ask him other question—they went away from our house in a coach.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you see Mrs. Miers when came down stairs? A. Yes—her stays were exposed and her hair was paper—one paper on each side.

Mr. KELLY. Q. Was there any shawl about her? A. She had a inside her stays.

WILLIAM BAYLIS . I am a stationer, living at No. 4, Bowling-street. I opened to be coming up High-street at the time of the fire, about half-past twelve o'clock, or a little after—it was before the axe had showed itself when I first came up, I had not observed the least appearance of fire—I home, and had undressed myself—I was getting into bed when I and the alarm of fire—I immediately put on my clothes, and went down I know Mr. Charlton's door—it is No. 3, Bowling-street, next door to and opposite Miers's—Charlton's house is opposite Miers's premises—her the fire bad been put out, I saw the prisoner standing leaning ainst Charlton's shutters, with his hands in his pocket, in a very cool and date sort of manner—I asked him if his family were all out—he said, Yes." in a very low tone of voice, "they are down the court"—I then ked him if he had saved his property—he said' "No; I have saved noing but two books"—I asked him if he was aware How the fire occurred, me was aware of the origin of the fire—he told me, yes; it was caused the gas—he said then that he had sent to the gas-fitter to come to ease cock of the gas pipe—he mentioned the gas-fitter's name—the name, of refries—he said he had tried to turn the gas off, but could not—he said ho sent eight or ten times within the last month, and the man had neglected to come—I said, "If it had been my case, I would have sent for other gas-fitter, and not waited for him"—he said he had broken three says in endeavouring to turn it off.

Q. Pray do you, among other articles, deal in coarse brown paper used for king parcels of linen in? A. I do—on the Monday before the fire, Mr. fiers had purchased some of that sort of paper of me—I had sold one quantity to him which had been previously looked out by his young man Midgley I have frequently observed in shop-windows in London, bills notifying at goods are to be sold off—before the fire, I had observed a great number of such bills in Miers's shop—it is twenty-two yards and a half from the centre of the threshold of my door, to the centre of the threshold of Mr. fiers's—that is the private door across the way—I remember the morning of at Christmas-day—I was up early that morning, as is my usual custom I was up a quarter before six o'clock, and was at the shop door—at that me it was dark—there were gas-lights in the neighbourhood—I observed coach draw up to Miers's door, about ten minutes before six o'clock—had the curiosity to watch it, and observed a man and one or two females come from the private door—I observed them get into the coach several and I observed that they had parcels in their hands—the only male person that I consider I knew was Mr. Miers—I saw him—I saw him come from the private door to the coach several times, each time having a parcel—the private door remained open—I know the person of the servant—I saw her standing on the step of the door—some of the parcels were

larger than others—some appeared about the size of that box—(a box or table of the Court)—and others larger—I observed the person who placed many parcels in, and who I believe to be Mr. Miers, get into the coach, and appeared to me, but I am not really positive, that a female got in also him—whether there was a second female got in with him I cannot tively say—as soon as the door was shut, the coach went off past my along Weymouth-street.

Cross-examined by MR. THOMAS. Q. You live very near Mr. Miers? A. Yes, just across the way—I am a newsman, and am generally up early in the morning—(producing a plan)—this is my house, and that Miers's—I never, on any other occasion, saw a hackney coach taking goods—I have seen things going away, but not by coach—I sold his quire of brown paper on the Monday previous to the fire—I suppose used that sort of paper in packing parcels—I did not go across when I the coach—I thought it possible he might be going on a visit, and yet was doubtful whether it was so—I do not say that I stated when I examined before, that my suspicions were not excited, that I thought was going to spend a day in the country—I thought it possible that were going out to spend the Christmas-day—there was nothing to my going across and seeing what they were about.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Were you on such terms with Mr. Miers as to at liberty to go and examine the coach, or look into his hands? A. I have done so, but I should have thought it very rude.

NATHAN DEFRIES . I live at No. 41, Paddington-street, and am an gineer and gas-fitter. I knew Mr. Miers's house—I fitted up gas-fitting in his shop (referring to memoranda) on March 26th, 1837—soon after house was fitted up Mr. Miers complained of a smell—I attended to and after two or three examinations found that the carpenter had drives nail through a brass pipe—I remedied that soon after the 26th of march—the last time I made any repairs in gas-fittings was, as near as possible, six months ago from this time—I cannot say in what month—it was so trilling it was not booked—I sent my man—I never work myself—I have that had an application from the prisoner to repair a key—when I say repair it, it was not so, the pendant was loose in the ceiling in consequest of the carpenter not screwing the branch up, and that was repaired—the was six months ago—I have not been applied to by Mr. Miers since that make any repairs in the gas work.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you go yourself to Mr. Miers A. I did in one instance—I was sent for but once—I cannot say who it called—my clerk took the message—he is not here—his name is Freeman—he has left me—I sent a man named Lewis to repair the gas fitting—he not here—that was the occasion I went to Mr. Miers in person—there was male lodger living with him—I do not know his name—I saw a man then on the first floor—I cannot tell where he lodged—my clerk never went to Mr. Miers to my knowledge—I never received but one message—if move than one came it must have come to my hearing—I have no doubt it would have been booked or slated—it was the job that was too slight to he booked, but the order must be entered on the slate or book—that is my strict orders—my orders were not disobeyed on that occasion—it was either booked or slated—I cannot say whether it was booked or not—I have books at home—I cannot venture to say what distance Mr. Miers resides from me—it is not very far—if a gas pipe is not properly repaired it discharges

the gas so as to emit a very unpleasant smell, which would be offensive to house.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. If a message had been sent to you eight or ten somes in the course of the month the fire happened, according to the way our business is done, must it have come to your knowledge? A. Most recidedly.

WILLIAM GATTRELL . On the 23rd of December last, and from April to at time, I lived with the prisoner Mr. Miers as shop-boy—I quitted on a saturday—at that time my master carried on business in High-street—the second-floor front room, the kitchen, and the back parlour, were all the rooms the house that were furnished at that time—there was a closet with just enough to hold a bedstead—the second-floor front room was furnished it a bed-room—when I went there in April there were no other furnished comes than those I have named—I know Midgley—when I first went to with Mr. Miers, Midgley was his assistant—I went in April, and Midgley left about two months after, I should think—he was to take a shop in rawford-street—Midgley's wife is sister to Mrs. Miers, my master's life—Midgley was succeeded by a man named Govier—I think he retained about a fortnight or six weeks—during that time Mr. Miers was taken ill, and was confined to his bed—after Govier left, a man named homas Davey became assistant—he staid I think about a month or six seeks—on some few occasions, within the last month I was there, I remember customers making applications for things and going away with—it them—when persons made applications for things he had not got, Mr. liers said he should get them in on such a day, but he did not get them at all—I noticed that at the time—it was my business to attend in the up.

Q. How much money should you say was taken over the counter in a ly in November or December, to speak liberally? A. I should say about one day with another—I used to go to the till for change when I wanted—during the latter months I was there I heard the prisoner complain of rade many times—during the latter part of my time in his service, Mr. liers used generally to go out between eight and nine o'clock in the morning and return about nine or ten o'clock at night—he staid away freuently all day in the course of the last two months—he used to return sometimes before and sometimes after the shop was shut at night—during he latter three or four months of my time he was very little in the shop—was customary for the shop to be supplied with pins, tape, worsted, and cotton balls, about every three weeks, according to the course of justness.

Q. During the time you were there, from April to December, was there my considerable supply of goods, linen, and such stock as that? A. He used to have some calico in—I do not know from whom—he had not much while I was there—I do not know at what time the calico came in—he ways used to keep a supply of calico in—there used to be some Irish men on the top row of shelves—before I left, they had been sent away—occupied all the top row, or part of it, on one side of the shop, and at the pack—when they went away the shelves were supplied with dummies, which are bits of wood tied up in blue paper, representing linen—the shawls were kept in two or three drawers, the drawers were kept under the counter—we had no boxes of shawls—he had some in linen wrappers—some of the shawls were sent away about the latter part of my time—I have heard my

master speak of Miss York—she served in Mr. Miers's shop for a week—she was a sister of Mrs. Miers—my master used to tell me what goods look out to send down to a shop at Isleworth, which Miss York kept—it was supplied from Mr. Miers's stock—all sorts of haberdashery was sent—there was a great deal sent the latter part of the time I was ther—the were tied up in coarse wrappers to go there—they were sent once a week and sent by the carrier—I remember, in September last, some goods going in a phaeton, Mr. Miers and myself put them in—there were flannek linens, shawls, and different goods in haberdashery—they were taken away in the morning on a work-day—about ten or eleven o'clock in the morning the phaeton came to the private door in Bowling-street—the goods sent away without being packed—I was sent to Midgley, in Crawford street, after he took the shop there—I went with goods, not more than or six times—I carried them myself—they were middling-sized parced half as large again as that box—I used sometimes to take one, sometime two—Midgley was in the habit of coming to and from the shop, and it was at the time he was going to open the shop that these goods were sent—there were no fresh supplies of flannel and linen during the latter part the time I was with Mr. Miers—the stock became diminished by send ing these goods away—towards the latter part of my time the shop ill stocked, there were very few goods in it—I cannot form any idea of the value of the goods in the shop—I know Mr. Defries, the gafitter—I was sent to him by my master in the summer—there was a escape of gas in the window in the branch-pipe, the message was to repaired it—I delivered the message—Mr. Defries sent a man and repaired it—I was sent to Mr. Defries before that—the last time I was sent was in summer—I had never been sent since the summer of last year—when I was sent, the man came and did what was required—from time I went in the summer I never heard or received directions from master to go for Mr. Defries—I did not hear my master, during the part of my time, make any complaint about the gas—there was no other person to go on messages, from June to December, when I left him—master closed his shop at ten o'clock on work-days in the week, and on saturday nights between eleven and twelve o'clock—I used to put the out on Saturday nights as well as other nights—I always turned it out regularly—I left my master because I did not suit him—I could not do work well enough for him—I had to clean the gas glasses in the window of the shop, that was what I did not do to his satisfaction—that was the reason he parted with me—he said I did not go on his errands quickly enough—I was not charged with dishonesty of any kind—there was other reason, but not going on errands quickly enough, and not cleaning the glasses.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Of course you were examined before the Magistrate? A. Yes—I have been examined on this business before to-day—I was before the Justice at the Police Office, in High-street Marylebone—I think that is about six weeks ago—I was not sworn there—I gave evidence to Mr. Rawlinson, and he took it down in writing—he did not read it over to me—an officer called at my father's for me, to take me to High-street, to be examined—I know that gentleman (Mr. Rickards)—I have seen him before to-day, somewhere—I do not know where—I did not see him at High-street—I do not know whether he took down my examination—I am sure I do not know whether he wrote down my evidences—I cannot tell whether it was since I was at the police-office that I saw

him—I cannot tell whether I have seen him within these six weeks—I do not know whether he wrote my evidence down—I do not recollect whether told him what I have sworn to-day—it was in a house I saw him—I do not recollect the name of the street—I have seen that gentleman somewhere, but I do not know where—I saw him in a house—I do not know How long I was in the house with him—I spoke to him—I might have spoken to him—I do not remember whether I spoke to him or not—I do not know How long I was in the house with him—it might have been an our—I am sure I do not know—I was in the same room with him—I do not know How long—I only saw him once—I never saw him more than once, to my recollection—I do not know whether it was before I went before the Magistrate—I cannot say whether it is a month ago—I only saw the gentleman once—I am sure I do not know when it was, and I do not know where—I quite forget whether anybody was in the room, or not—there might be half-a-dozen persons in the room for what I know—I do not know who took me to the gentleman—I did not know who the gentleman was—it was not a woman or a child took me to the room—it was man took me—he had the appearance of a gentleman—he did not tell one what he wanted with me—I think he found me at my place in Oxford-street—he might have found me there—I do not know How far he took me fore we got to this gentleman's house—I do not know whether the man went into the room with me where I found the gentleman.

Q. How did you find out the room the gentleman was in, if you do not now whether he went in with you? A. I said it might have been in a room—I did not say it was in a room—I might have seen him in a room, for what I know—I am sure I cannot say whether I was in a room with him or not—I do not know whether I was in a room, or in the street with him—I said I might have been an hour with him, or a minute, for what I now—I do not remember whether it was in the open air, or in a house—I saw him.

Q. You have said you lived in the house of Mr. Miers from April to December, is that true? A. Yes—I was turned away on the 9th of November, because I was saucy to Mrs. Midgley—my mother did not ask Mr. Miers to take me back—he did take me back—he sent for me, at eleven o'clock, one night, when I had been a fortnight out of his service.

Q. How came you to swear that you were in his service from April to December, did not you think I knew nothing about it? A. I am sure you knew about it—I was sent three times to Mr. Defries—I am not sure whether I saw Mr. Defries each of those three times, or his young man—I saw Mr. Defries once, I know, at his own house—I told him the message my master sent—I told him there was an escape of gas in the window—I am not sure whether I told Mr. Defries, or the man, that—I did see Mr. Defries at his own house—I do not know what I told him—I went to him because there was another escape of gas between the flooring—the times are intermixed—I cannot say what message I gave the first or last time—I went to him on account of some escape of gas etch time—being saucy to Mrs. Midgley was the reason I was discharged—when I lived with Mr. Miers, I used to sleep up in some room called the ware-house, on the other side of the yard.

Q. Did you find yourself two or three different nights from your home when you ought to have slept there? A. I did once—I am going on for

fifteen years of age—I was absent one night—I spent that night at Wards worth, at a friend of my mother's, a butcher—I did not give my master notice that I was going there—there was a lodger, named Smith at Mr. Miers's while I was there—he was constantly complaining of the offensive smell occasioned by the escape of gas—I have heard him complain—I do not know whether he left before or after me—I do not know that he quitted the lodging because be could not bear the smell of gas.

MR. KELLY. Q. Is this the gentleman (Mr. Rickards) you saw were with an hour or some time? A. Yes, I recollect him now—Queen Anne-street was the name of the street where I saw him—I was living with Mr. Holywell, a hatter, in Oxford-street, at that time—I lived there, and used to go home to my mother's to sleep, No. 7, Nottingham-street, mary-lebone—I think it was near the middle of February that I went to Mr. Rickards, or it might have been March—I think it was about a month age.

Q. You have been asked whether it was in a room or not; do you this place a room you are in now? A. No, I saw him in the office—it was a place where there were desks and a railing fencing off one part of the place from another—he had a paper before him while I was there, and he was writing—I had never seen Mr. Rickards before I went there—my father came and gave me notice that I was to go there.

COURT. Q. Why not state all this when the other gentleman asked you? A. I did not know the gentleman's name.

MR. KELLY. Q. You have been asked if there was anybody else in the same room or office; do you remember who took you in there? A. I went and knocked at the door, and a clerk opened the door—that is the person—he showed me into the office—I could not see anybody if they were outside the railing—I was inside it, and could not see anybody out side—this was after I had been to the police-office—I do not recollect How long it was after.

Q. Now did Mr. Rickards, the gentleman you saw in the office, ask you questions about this business? A. Yes, and I gave him answers—I have received letters from him since that, stating the time I was to come here, except that I have had no communication with him at all—the night I let Mr. Miers and went to Wandsworth, was on the 8th of November, and If came back that day fortnight—the night I went to Wandsworth is included in the fortnight—it was the first night—I staid the rest of the time at home—my mother went to Mr. Miers, and asked him for a character—he would not give me one—my mother said he ought to have given me a character, or else have me back, and a day or two after, at eleven o'clock as night, Mrs. Midgley came for me to go that same night, and I went next morning, and then remained with him until the 23rd of December—Midgley came in my place—I saw him there.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. How did you find your way to Mr. Rickards's house, in Queen Anne-street? A. My father told me the number, 54—I thought somebody took me there—I was not sure—I do not think so now, but I did not know the name of the gentleman, or I should have known.

ANN WRIGHT . I am twenty-five years of age on the 24th of next month. I lived servant with Mr. Miers, in High-street—I went into his employ on the 13th of November, last year, and remained with him till after the fire, when I went to Fenchurch-street—I continued with him and Mrs. Miers till the time of his being taken to the police-office—when I

went to him in November the family consisted of himself, Mrs. Miers, and Mrs. Midgley—but Mrs. Midgley went away before Christmas—there was then only Mr. and Mrs. Miers, myself, and the shop-boy, William Gattrell—he went away in December, and Mr. Midgley came the same night as Gattrell went away—Midgley remained there till he went to Whitecross-Street prison—that was three or four weeks before the fire—after he left, there was nobody in the house but myself and Mr. and Mrs. Miers—I was servant of all-work—I did the whole work of the house—Mrs. Miers has one child, a little boy, fifteen or sixteen months old—it was not at home at the time of the fire—the child was away when I went to the situation—the child did not live in the house at the time I was there—mistress's mother, Mrs. York, had it.

Q. What time used the shop generally to be shut up? A. There was no certain time—sometimes between nine and ten o'clock, and it has been selven o'clock—it was later on a Saturday—it has been eleven o'clock and half-past eleven o'clock, and sometimes later, on a Saturday night—after attrell and Midgley went away, my master and the lads that came used shut up the shop—the gas-lights were not always put out when the shop was shut up—they were left alight all night some nights—after William Gattrell left the service the lights were put down low—not left a full light—so as not to be quite out, but yet alight—my master used to do that.

COURT? Q. The first time was after Gattrell left? was it not till after he had gone, that you first knew the lights left at all? A. No, it was after Gattrell left—before he left they used to be put out.

MR. KELLY. Q. Now, do you remember the night the fire happened? A. Yes—my master went out about eleven o'clock that night—he was not song out—he came home from eleven to about a quarter or twenty minutes after eleven o'clock, and he had been out in the afternoon—when he came home me he had his supper, and then shut up the shop.

Q. Do you remember whether when he shut up the shop he put the gas fights out or lowered them? A. No, I cannot say—I do not remember one way or the other—when he had had his supper and shut up the shop, went up stairs with my mistress—that was at ten minutes or a quarter after twelve o'clock—I remained with my mistress from a quarter of an hour to twenty minutes before Mr. Miers came up—during that time he down below alone—he then came up—I remained up stairs about five minutes after he came up—I remained in the room—I then went down stairs with the warming-pan in my hand—when I got down, I observed he curtain was undrawn, and a large worsted needle stuck in the curtain—seeing the reflection in the glass, I looked on the counter, and saw a light, was a muslin curtain to the glass-door which separates the parlour from the shop—the bottom part of the door is wood—the curtain of that door was undrawn—I looked through the glass-door, and saw a light on the left-hand side of the counter—as you look through the glass-door the counter is on the left-hand side—there were two windows to the shop—the window was near the end of the counter—there were two counters—the light was at the left-hand counter, near the end, near the window—there were some prints hanging, and there was a light as if it went from these prints, and they were in a flame—when I saw the fire, I called to master twice, please, Sir, will you come down stairs"—the door was locked which led into the shop—I did not try it, but the keys were up stairs—my master came down, and desired me to go for the policeman—he had his coat and waistcoat

off—he went up stairs again—I did not do as master desired me—I went up stairs with him—he said to mistress, "My dear, get out of bed, the shop is on fire"—the keys were on the drawers—I took them off and gave then to master, and then went down to the policeman, leaving master in the room—I went down stairs and got some water for the policeman—I brought the policeman in with me—I got the water from the wash-house in the yard—there was a pail and a foot tub, with two handles—I had put the water in the tub for the next day's use—I had got the water out of the wash-house, which was up stairs in the yard, in a large water-butt—I could not draw the water out of the tap—I dipped it out with a jug—the water was frozen—I brought the water and gave it to the policeman—I then went up stairs for mistress's cloak and bonnet, but I could not get the closet open where her bonnet was kept—I went down with the cloak, and master told me to go into the back warehouse with mistress, and I went out with he—I did not remain more than a minute after I brought the policeman in—I went with my mistress to a neighbour named Watkins, but I did not stop there when mistress was there—I did not stop long in the parlour—I went after the engine to Marylebone station-house—I went of myself after that, Mr. and Mrs. Miers had a coach, and Mr. Miers left me at any own home, at three o'clock in the morning, and was to let me know when to come to them—he came on Monday and told me to go; and on a Tuesday morning I went to my mistress in Ingram-court, Fenchurch-street, the house of Mr. Bustin—he is a relation of Mr. Miers's, I believe—I mained there, I think, a fortnight with mistress—I staid there till the Campbell, the policeman, came—Mr. and Mrs. Miers remained there also—I went into Mr. Miers's service on the 15th of November.

Q. Did Mr. Miers get any quantity of goods in after you went in November—was there any considerable quantities of goods brought into the shop? A. No, I did not see any—I think if there had been any large quantity I should have seen them—I could see into the shop through the glass door, and when my master had no man I used to watch the shop door while master and mistress were at dinner—I did not serve in the shop—the shelves were not full, some of them had two or three things on and the others were not full—the shop was not well stocked.

Q. You say you did not see any large quantities of things come in; you know of any thing going out after you got there? A. Master took some parcels in a coach on Christmas morning, between six and server o'clock—he had desired me to call him, that Christmas morning, at fire o'clock, and I did so—he went for a coach, and the coach came between six and seven o'clock—Mr. Midgley had come on the Saturday as Chirstmasday was on Monday—on the Sunday, the day before Christmas-day, master and Mr. Midgley, his brother-in-law, were at work in the shop from eleven till six o'clock—they were measuring things off—some were in wrappers and some in brown paper—there were some merinos measured off on the parlour table on the Sunday, and some table linen I saw on the counter, and things—some of them were large parcels—when the coach came on Christmas morning, master placed the parcels on the stairs, and left them there till he came back with the coach, and I gave the parcels to him—one side of the coach was full, and part of the other—master went on one side of the coach with the parcels—they were heavy parcels, and of different sizes—two or three were large parcels—some of them were much larger, but none so small as this box—they were packed in coarse

brown paper, and some with wrappers—some were the length of a long cane—all the parcels that master had placed on the stairs were put into the each—nobody went with him then—the coachman and he drove away—did not hear where he was going—his wife did not go with him—he came back about half-past twelve or twenty-five minutes to one o'clock—he then went up stairs to dress, and dined with Mrs. in Whitechapel, and mistress went with him—I do not remember any goods coming into the shop after Christmas-day.

Q. Now, do you remember during the time you were there any other goods going away? A. At the time Mrs. Midgley went away, before Christmas morning, there were two trunks, and master took some parcels hen, but I did not look at the size of them—one trunk was a black one and the other a coloured paper one—I do not know from my master whether he went the night before the fire to Ingram-court—he went out on Friday, but I cannot say to any time—during the latter part of the time I was there my master was not much at home—he did not spend much time in paying attention to his shop during the latter part of the time—not more than usual—mistress attended to the shop, and master went out—a lad was hired as shop-boy, and came on the Friday before the fire, and went away on the Saturday afternoon—his Christian name was John, his other name I do not Know—I did not hear my master say who he was, or any thing about him—he went away on Saturday, and was to return at six o'clock on Saturday, but he did not return—that was the night of the fire.

Q. Had you the means of knowing, from living in the house as the only servant, what articles of furniture, and what things there were in ordinary use in the house? A. Yes—there was a bedstead in the back room, second floor—there was not any set of Merino curtains and drapery, there was no such article in the house—there were short muslin curtains,.—there was a mattress but no palliasse—there was not eighteen yards of damask carpetting—there were some pieces of carpet put down, but no damask—they were old pieces of stair-carpet—there was no hearth-rug, nor any chest of mahogany drawers—there were not four rose-wood chairs—there were three chairs, but no window-curtains in the back room—there were no toilet covers in that room, nor any cut-glass bottle and tumbler, or japanned towel horses—there was no towel horse at all in that room—there was no easy chair with chintz cover, in the front room, second floor—there was one pair of large blankets, but not two pairs—there was one large thick blanket and one under blanket—three blankets altogether—there was no mahogany cheffionier—there was no blue breakfast service in the kitchen—there were four large breakfast cups and saucers, and basin to match—two of them were kept up stairs—there were no small cups and saucers in general use—there were not so many as thirty-four of any thing, of a blue breakfast service, or other service at all—the breakfast cups and saucers were common willow pattern—there was no small tea service—master and mistress always used the large cups and saucers—there were china cups and saucers always kept in the parlour closet—there was a large tea-kettle in use—the copper tea-kettle was not used often, and it was not large—there was a small deal chest of drawers under the window in the kitchen—there was not more than half a bottle of wine in the house in a decanter—there was not any besides what was in the decanter—there was no wine-bin with shelves—there was no spirits, brandy, or gin.

Q. what number of books were there in the house altogether? A.

The best books which I have seen were kept up stairs, on the toilet cover—what I have seen in the parlour was "Chambers's Edinburgh Journal," but only a few of them—there were no books in any place besides the toilet in the bed room and the parlour—I should say there were not more than a dozen volumes up stairs, but there was a closet over the parlour with numbers of "Chambers's Journal" in it—I have seen very few books, only numbers—I mean unstitched books—there were no books in the parlour, no volumes, only numbers—I should say it was not possible for 109 volumes of printed books to be in the house, or any thing like that number—there were about a dozen, and no more, up stairs, and some unbound numbers of "Chambers's Journal"—I have seen two or three taken to read from the closed in the parlour—that was the first time I ever saw them—that was one Sunday evening, when master went out; and mistress came home with master—Mr. Midgley had them reading—there was no rose-wood sofa table in the front room, second floor—there was no linen-press, with shelves, in that room, nor any chintz drapery for three windows with brass supporters—there were only two windows to the front room—there was no chintz drapery—there were some muslin curtains in the back parlour, but they were not up—there were none at all in the front room—Mrs. Miers bad not any rich silk cloak—only the black silk cloak she had on on the night of the fire, when she went to Fenchurch-street—she had no boa—she had a muff, which was moth-eaten very much—I was desired to take it out into the wash house, and beat it, but I did not beat it then—I was desired to do that a week or a fortnight before the fire—at the time of the fire it was in the box—it was not fit to wear—there was no boa in the house—there were five pairs of sheets and six table-cloths sent away with Mrs. Midgley in a coach—at the time of the fire, there were only the sheets on the beds, except the sheets that went to the wash—there was master's bed, and the bed I slept on—there was a pair of sheets to the bed the boy slept on in the ware house—they were on the bed at the time—I do not know whether my master had any gold watch—I did not hear him speak of any gold watch, till he was in Fenchurch-street—I then heard him speak of one—he was making the inventory of the things lost in the fire, and he named about the watch to me then—he asked if I had seen the gold watch—I said, "No," I had not seen it—only a small silver watch he had in use, with a chain—he was writing down on paper the things that were lost—there was no gold watch in the house that I saw—I never saw one at all in the house, nor ever heard of his having one in his possession—it was a week, ten days, it a fortnight before Christmas that Mrs. Midgley took the trunks away.

Q. Was there any plate taken away in those trunks? A. Yes, two table-spoons, two salt-spoons, six tea-spoons, and a fish-slice—I did not see any plate in the house after they went away—the metal table and teaspoons were always used after that—in the black trunk there were five pairs of sheets and six table-cloths, and some pillow-cases—I do not know How many—I did not see any of those things come back—my master went with Mrs. Midgley when those things were taken away—I was present in Ingram-court when master was making out the inventory—he described to me a sofa-table—I did not know at the time what one was, but when he described it, I had seen what he described, a table with two leaves and drawers—I remembered that I had seen such a table, but there was no sofatable in the house at the time of the fire—he also named to me a sofa, but there was no sofa in the house—master was writing down when I said

there was none in the house—he told me if I was asked if there was a sofatable I was to say yes, if they asked me at the Insurance office—this was on the Tuesday, the day he desired me to go to Ingram-court—nothing else passed between us at that time—he said he had the sofa-table in Oxford-street, but it was sold when they came to High-street—he also mentioned having a polished steel fender and fire-irons in Oxford-street—there were no such things in High-street.

Q. Were you sent at any time in February to Surrey-place? A. Yes, one Sunday morning after the fire—it was about a fortnight after the fire I went to No. 30, Surrey-place, Old Kent-road—it was a linen-draper's shop—I saw Mrs. Midgley there, and her sister Miss York, and Mrs. York—Mrs. Midgley and Miss York served in the shop—the next night Mrs. Midgley and Miss York, and a child, came to Ingram-court.

Cross-examined by MR. JAMES. Q. Can you write? A. No—my master made out the list of the kitchen utensils which were burnt—I furnished him with a list of the articles, and master added more things to it—master told me to recollect what was in the kitchen—a young man in the house where my mother lived wrote down the articles as I told him—he was not a friend of mine—I had seen him before—I cannot think of his name—you can hear of him at No. 37, Ogle-street, Marylebone, on the first floor—I cannot tell what business he is—he is a neighbour of my father's—he lives at No. 37, Ogle-street—I was in Ogle-street at my father's one evening, and the person wrote it out, and master saw it, and added more things to it—I can read plain writing—I did not read that list—I took it to my master after it was written—master told me and mistress to recollect if there was any thing more—I cannot say whether he old me I had not recollected all—I know there were more things added—master had papers before him—I cannot say what they were—some of them seemed bills—I could not read them—there were two chests of drawers in the room up stairs, and there was a Bible and prayer-book, and two other books, and a desk on those drawers—there were two books, one. small and one smaller—some of the books were lettered on the back—on the table, were smaller books—I can read the letters at the backs of books—one of the books was Clark's Prayers, or something—there was the name of Clark on the back of a book—I cannot say whether it was on the sack of one or two—it was a small Bible and prayer-book—they had marks on them—there was not more than one prayer-book that I know of—I do not recollect Johnson's Dictionary, or two volumes of Cowper's Poems—I did not look at them all, and could not tell—I do not recollect them—the closets in the house were not locked—the chests of drawers were locked—one was master's, and one was mistress's—mistress had the care of the linen—the muslin curtains which were not put up were rough—dried, and put on the shelf in master's bed-room—the short muslin curtain remained at the parlour window—there were two japanned towel-horses in master's bed-room, which was the front room on the second floor—they could be moved from one room to another, but they always remained in master's bed-room next the window—there was one pair of sheets use for master's bed, one pair for mine, and one pair for the boy's—I do not know How many pairs there were in the drawers—I have seen the drawers open—there were no sheets in them—they were all kept on a shelf in master's bed-room closet—I had seen the drawers open in the week—my mistress's was a squirrel muff—I had not seen my

mistress with a boa—I have seen her with a short ruff, but not a box—it was not a squirrel ruff, it was a plain one—I never saw her me the muff—it was not fit for use.

Q. Do you recollect Mr. Walters dining with your master? A. Yes, he dined there often on a Tuesday—I cannot say How recently before the 20th of January he dined there—it might be a week or a fortnight, or two or three weeks—I waited at table on that occasion, and attended as servant—I was in and out—metal table-spoons and tea-spoons were used on that occasion, the same as usual—at times the gas-lamps in the shop were left burning all night—they were left low, not full, but about one-third the usual height—I did not observe the lights left so till after I had been there some name—I went up stairs with my mistress about ten minutes after twelve o'clock, as near as I can say, on the night of the fire—we went up stairs together.

Q. Did you take the keys of the shop with you? A. Mistress's combs were in the candle-stick—as to the keys I cannot say, but I took the keys from the toilet, and gave them to master in the bed-room—I found then on the drawers near master's bedside—there were two keys tied together with a string—master always took the keys of the shop up—they were usually placed on the candlestick, or on the drawers, or on the looking glass—I found them on the drawers—I cannot say positively that the keys were not taken up in the candlestick or by my mistress in her hand—I left mistress in bed, when I left the room, undressed, as usual—when I went up with mistress I left master in the parlour, and master gave me a shilling to go for a shilling's-worth of brandy, which I got in a mug—when I discovered the fire, the parlour door was open, which goes into the parlour—I could see the reflection of the glass—the door was Jocked which leads from the parlour into the shop—that door was usually locked—the parlour door itself was open.

Q. Had you retired, or got down into the kitchen with the warning pan, before your master went up? A. I did not go farther than parlour before I called my master—my master had his coat and waistcoat off before I left the bed-room—I was in the room about five minutes after he came of—I did not stop longer than giving him the keys and going out—I gave him the two keys which unlock the shop door—I found them on the drawers next the bed-side—that does not enable me to recollect whether my mistress had them taken up—I cannot say—I do not know whether they went up or not but I found them on the drawers, and gave them to my master—the boy who came on the Friday was called John—he was a boy who had applied in the shop as errand-boy—he had seen a bill, I believe, in the window—there was an advertisement for a boy in the window—he left on the Saturday—he was to return at six o'clock, but he did not return—he went for some things—the kitchen was below the shop, down a pair of stairs—that was more usually my place than the shop—it was in the front—there was a wash-house—I was not engaged there only when I was washing my things—I only washed once a week—it was possible to bring goods into the shop without my seeing them—I said no large quantities were brought—the shop was not well stocked as linen-drapers' usually are—I had nothing to do with the shop—the kettle was not a large one—it was a middling-sized one—I did not tell the gentleman at Ogle-street to put down a large one—I saw no quantities of goods come in a coach—whether a parcel or a hamper came I cannot tell—I did not trouble myself about the shop—if I was in the kitchen I could hear any large parcel come in by the weight

—if I was in the wash-house, of course, I could not hear—I do not mean to swear that no goods did come in—the lace was kept in boxes in the shop—I have seen the boxes as they have been serving—the boxes were the size of those books there—I cannot say whether they were kept in blue cartridge-paper cases—there were no merino window-curtains there—I was not there when Mr. Smith, the lodger, was there—whether the room was furnished with merino curtains while he was there I do not know—there were no lumber trunks in master's bed-room—there was a closet leading out of master's bed-room with a lumber trunk there—there were holland blinds to the windows—there was no cornice—there was a piece of flat wood on the top of the window, on which the curtains would rest, but there were no curtains up.

Q. Did you ever look into the trunk? A. I took a counterpane out or the kitchen, the same kind of counterpane as the boy had in the ware-house—there were no curtains in the trunk at that time—there were old tassels there, which looked dirty—they were not moreen—tassels are not made of moreen—they were a lightish colour, but dusty and old, not fit to put up—it was small worsted fringe—that is not in general used to moreen curtains—they are generally trimmed with velvet—it depends on the taste of the person—there were tassels, but not much of them—I have seen worsted tassels used with moreen curtains, but they are not used now.

MR. KELLY. Q. You have been asked about Mr. Smith the lodger; when did he come? A. I do not know, it was before my time—there was no lodger in my time—Mr. Walters dined with my matter—he is lace-maker—he served master—he has dined there several times—he was intimate with master—there was lace in the shop at the time of the fire—there were caps and lace hanging on the lines in the shop—I do not know any thing of their value.

MR. JAMES. Q. In what state was the window of the shop left at night, were the things hanging up? A. The window was left the same as master dressed it in the day—the articles which hung there in the day, hung there all night—I cannot say whether the lamps were burning—master dressed the window on Friday, and it was left the same on Saturday night—I cannot say whether the lamps were left burning low on that night, but they have been left so often, since William Gattrell left the service.

(The following is a list of the articles referred to by this witness, and included in the claim made by the prisoner.)

"Back room, second floor, set of moreen curtains, furniture, drapery, &c, to bedstead, 5l. 10s.; mattress and palliasse, 2l. 10s.; eighteen yards of damask carpetting, 2l. 14s.; hearth-rug, 10s. 6d.; mahogany chest of drawers, 2l. 15s.; four rose-wood chairs, 1l. 7s.; window curtains, lath rods, &c, 1l. 10s.; two toilet covers, 9s.; cut-glass bottle and tumblers, 5s. 6d.: two japanned towel horses, 10s. Front room, second floor, easy chair. with chintz cover, 15s.; one pair of best blankets, 1l. 10s.; two ditto, 1l. 16s.; mahogany cheffionier, 2l. 2s. Kitchen, blue breakfast service, thirty-four pieces, 10s. 6d.; common tea service, thirty-six pieces, 15s.; one large copper kettle, 15s.; strong chest of drawers, 1l. 10s.—Passage, wine bin and shelves, 18s.; a dozen and a half of port wine, 3l. 10s.; twenty-three bottles of sherry, 3l. 18s; one gallon and a half of brandy, 1l. 10s.; two gallons of gin, 1l. 5s. Back parlour, 109 vols. printed books, containing eleven vols. of Imperial Magazine., 8l. 5s. Front room, second floor, rose-wood sofa table, 2l. 10s.; linen press, with shelves, 10s.; chintz drapery for three windows, with brass supports and muslin curtains, &c, 3l. 10s. Mrs.

Miers's wearing apparel—rich silk cloak, 4l. 10s.; squirrel muff and box 6l.—Linen not in present use, eight pairs of sheets, 6l. 10s.: one large table cloth, 1l. 10s.; two ditto, 1l. 12s.; four ditto, 1l. 8s.; six breakfast dittle 15s.—Watches and trinkets—Gold watch, enamelled back, 10l.; and a silver watch 8l.—one silver fish-slice, twelve silver tea-spoons, six table spoons, and four salt spoons.


Saturday, April 7 th.

The Queen against Robert Miers—(Continued.)

ANN RUSSELL . I am the wife of George Russell. I wag in the habit before the 20th of January last, of going to the prisoner's house changing and in the course of the time I was there I became acquainted with the lines in the different rooms of the house—about six months before the fire I was there for a fortnight or three weeks—the parlour was furnished—the first-floor back room was not furnished, it was entirely empty, and the first floor front, too, was quite empty the prisoner occupied the second, floor front room as his bed room—I removed the furniture out of the second floor back room down stairs during the floor tnight or three weeks that was charing there—there was a stump elm bedstead, a little upright washing stand, a deal table, two mattresses, and a common looking-glass—I know the sort of wooden rollers that it is common for linen-drapers to have silk on—there were none in the second-floor back room—they were in the warehouse at the hack of the house—that was the place I removed the furniture to from the back room second floor—I do not recollect any thing else that I removed from there—there were several wooden rollers in the warehouse—I think I removed those articles about a week before I left—it was the first week I was there—there was a room over the warehouse, that was at the back of the premises—a yard divided it—there was only a sort of loft and a bed-room over the warehouse for the boy—there was a stump bedstead there of the same sort as had been in the back room on the second floor—there was also a common deal washing stand, a plain deal table, a flock bed, and I think three blankets and two bolsters there—there was no furniture in the rooms higher than the second floor—only one of the kitchens were furnished—there were two white dimity curtains to the bed which the prisoner occupied—there was no valance to the top of the bed, there was to the bottom—the furniture of the house was all common furniture.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. I suppose you only speak from recollection of the things—you took no account of any? A. No—it is nearly nine months ago since I last saw them—I work at a great many places—this was six months before the fire.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Can you tell my friend the different articles in the rooms if he desires to know them? A. Yes.

THOMAS DAVEY . I have been lately living with Mr. Rotherham in Shoreditch—he is a linen-draper. I lived with the prisoner Miers from the 26th of June to the 26th of July in the last year—it was at the house in High-street—I was engaged by a person named Midgley, who I did not know before—before I went to Miers I had been at Crawford-street—Midgley engaged me to go there—I do not recollect the number of the house—I think I went there on the 23rd of June—I am not positive—it was three or four days before I went to High-street—I was engaged there for a

permanency, but the shop was never opened—I was there three days, and slept there four nights—I had been there three times before I entered the service—I have followed the business of a linen-draper fifteen years—I consider the value of the prisoner's stock in trade as it stood at that time was from 200l. to 1500l.—it consisted principally of Irish linen, shawls, silks, merinos, stays and prints—they were filled shawls principally, that meant with dark black grounds—I should think there were about forty pieces of Irish linen of various qualities, from 8d. a yard—some I believe were as High as 3s.—2s. a yard would be a fair liberal average for the whole—I should say there were from fifty to sixty filled shawls, about twenty or thirty plain centres bordered, and about as many woollen—there are various qualities of woollen—it is a common kind of shawl—the filled shawls would average from 15s. to a 1l. each—the average of the plain shawls and border-ed would be the same—the woollen ones from 7s. 6d. to 8s.—if we were to say 15s. each for the whole stock of shawls it would be a liberal allowance—I remained in Mier's service a month—during that period I think there were two or three deliveries of goods from the warehousemen—I think the largest parcel would be about 14l. or 15l.—they were hosiery, haberdashery and ribbons—I remember some silks coming on sale, or returned—that was the last parcel—I cannot say exactly what portion of those silk were retained—some of them were, I believe—the things came principally from Coster and Co., in Aldermanbury—some articles came from Brown's, in Oxford-street—that was hosiery and shirts, ready made shirts, collars and shirt fronts—two or three deliveries came while I was there—when the hosiery came from Brown's, in Oxford-street, there were goods had in exchange—I can only speak to two parcels—there were two quilts or counterpanes had in exchange—I cannot say what was the value of the goods delivered by Brown—Miers had goods from him several times—some were kept and others returned—I remember meeting the prisoner on the Monday after the fire in Farringdon-street, between eleven and twelve o'clock in the forenoon—he told me he had had a fire—I asked him if it had done much damage—he said it had burnt every thing, and had not left him so much as a coat to his back—I asked him How it originated—he said he could not tell, he had no idea.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Where have you been living since you left the prisoner—in London? A. Yes—I was not examined Before the Magistrate—I was subpoenaed here—I was living in service—I did not get a character from the prisoner when I went away—I did not apply for one.

Q. How came you to leave Mr. Miers? A. I was never engaged by Miers himself—I was there a month, serving in the shop—I do not know the reason why I went away—he told me after I had been with him about a fortnight, he should keep me till the month was up—he gave me no reason for it—he made no charge against me at that time—he never made any charge against me—he had no charge to make—he laid a charge against me that was not right—he challenged me with robbing him—I left his service I thirteen or fourteen days after that—he made no charge after that—I know there were merinos in the shop—they are rather valuable articles—they were not in boxes—they were in wrappers—I had undone two—there were about four wrappers in all of merino—but six wrappers altogether—I cannot say what was the value of the wrappers I had not undone—they were common goods, which I did not undo, as they were marked outside, and therefore I did not open them—the merinos were in a closet up stairs when I went—they were not there because there was no room in

the shop—they could have been in the shop—I never saw but two cloaks—there were no places where they could be kept without my knowledge, unless it was in the bed-room—I was only one month in his employ, and was charged with robbing him—I met him in Farringdon-street, when I spoke to him—he began the conversation—he passed me, and turned back—I remained with him fourteen days after being charged with robbery—I am quite certain of that—I will swear I did not leave the day after the charge was made—I have sworn it—I will swear it was more than two days after the charge was made that I left—I have not made any offer of my evidence in this case.

Q. How came they to know any thing about you? A. They traced me from a situation I was in, in Regent-street about three years ago—I had not given information about having lived with the prisoner.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. You staid about thirteen days with your maske after being charged with the robbery, explain what the charge was? A. A female was sent in to buy goods with two half-crowns, eight shillings and a sixpence—she purchased a print dress for 10s. 6d., and a pair of stockings for 2s. 6d.—I served her—she was sent with marked money, and after she had made the purchase Mr. Miers came in, and took the cash-drawer out of the desk into a back place, examined it, afterwards called me into the parlour, and asked if I had sold the goods—I told him I did—he said it was very strange, there was 2s. short—after some time he told me where the money was marked, and on looking through the money I found the two shillings marked as he had said—it was shown to him, and he denied two of the shillings being marked—I proved another to him as being marked, and he said it was the shilling the lady had given him with the bill—he said he was satisfied that what he had charged me with was a mistake, and asked me as a favour to remain with him all the month—I had not been originally engaged with him at all—I was engaged by Midgley, in Crawford-street, but that shop was not opened—I was led by Midgley to Mr. Miers, till the shop in Crawford-street could be opened—the prisoner did not make any charge against me before a Magistrate or to an officer—when I met him in Farringdon-street he conversed with me in a friendly spirit—he never repeated the charge of the marked money after the drawer had been examined and the money found—one of the marked shillings was afterwards found in the drawer, and the other I believe he had in his pocket—it was produced by him himself—I staid thirteen days after that, at his request—I made out my account at the time to leave, and presented it to him, and he requested me to stay—there was no other shopman employed at that time—Gattrell was in the shop all the time—he was the shop-boy—he did not serve in the shop—he served small customers occasionally—he was errand-boy.

GEORGE BANKS . I am a linen-draper's assistant. I went into Midgley's service the day of the decease of the late King, and staid about three weeks—I left the day the King was buried—I do not recollect the exact day him late Majesty died—it was in June, and I think it was the 15th—I was with Midgley, in Crawford-street—the shop was never opened, from his not being able to get stock to open it—there was stock in the shop that was there before I went there—at the end of the three weeks there were some wages due to me, and Mr. Miers paid me—I had what was due to me, within 8s. or 10s.—during the time I was engaged by Midgley I went as different times to the house in High-street.

Q. With the opportunities you had, could you form a judgment of the value as to the stock in the shop? A. Yes—going at different times, of course, I could not examine it particularly—I have been a linen-draper fifteen or sixteen years—I should say, from what I saw, that the stock was worth 700l. or 800l., but certain description of goods were kept out of night, and I was never behind the counter—the stock appeared small, generally speaking—it was a general stock—I could not say any thing about he quality of it—I never saw any of it to handle it—there were linens, shawls, silks, and other things—they were the most bulky part of the stock—I did not see many of them—not to any amount—I know nothing of the quality of the stock.

Cross-examined by MR. JAMES. Q. When were you first at Mr. Miers's house? A. I cannot say—I was there five or six times—the last time I was there was He day he settled with me, the day the King was buried, on a Saturday—that is generally a busy season of the year, but in consequence of the death of the King it was flat—in the month of June, in linen-drapers' business, there would be more sold than at any other season of the year, and therefore a greater diminution of stock—stock is bought early in the spring for the summer trade, and in autumn for the winter trade—I was not there in sutumn—how much might be diminished in June, and replenished in autumn, I cannot tell—I did not see any lace there—I saw the boxes—lace is generally kept in boxes, not exposed to view—what quantity of lace there was I cannot say—we generally form a judgment in proportion—I mean, if there was a quantity of merino, there would be a proportionate quantity of lace—it depends on the trade—I cannot say what the proportions are—some persons sell a great deal of lace, and others sell more of other goods—I cannot say what might be the value of his stock of lace—there might be 100l. worth of merino, and more of lace, but I cannot say, as I did not see it.

Q. Do you not know that Mrs. Midgley gave you an order on Mr. Miers to pay you your wages? A. No, I cannot say—I was referred to Mr. Miers—Mr. Midgley was in the country at the time, and, I believe, wrote a note to Mr. Miers to pay me—it was not communicated to me that Mr. Midgley had given an order to Mr. Mien to pay me—I understood from Mr. Miers that he had received a letter from Midgley, requesting him to pay me—he told me so—I gave a receipt for what he paid me—I was not examined before the Magistrate—I got my subpoena one morning about a booth ago.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. I believe you were not found till after the prisoner was committed? A. No, I was not, at least during the examination—it was before the committal—it was the last day of the examination—I was not found till that day—I am in a shop, No. 68, Whitechapel-road, now—were it another assistant there besides myself, and four apprentices—the value of my master's stock, I should judge, is about 2000l., and we have a stock of woollens worth 4000l. or 5000l. besides—I have made my estimate of the stock in High-street from the proportions which I consider one article bore to another, from what I have seen in other shops, regard being had to the situation of the shop—I do not speak definitely, or with accuracy—I believe the prisoner dealt in ready-made stays, and shoes, I believe.

MR. JAMES. Q. What would be the lowest value of the stock, where you now are, before you laid in a fresh stock for the winter? A. It might be reduced some 300l. or 400l.—we are always obliged to keep a certain

quantity of stock—October and November are what are termed dead months generally—it depends on the season a good deal—our stock is not replenished till next autumn—we are constantly buying and selling.

WILLIAM CONST AN TINE . I am landlord of the house in Crawford-street which was taken by Midgley, on May 16th, 1837. It was taken for haberdasher's and draper's—he afterwards told me that he was not of age and I refused to let him have the house, unless he paid for it by the week—the rent was not regularly paid—I was obliged to put an execution in for eight weeks rent—he was to pay fifty-two guineas a year, but in weekly payments, that would be 1l. 1s. 10 1/2 d. a week—it was eight time that—I saw Mr. Miers there before I put the distress in—when I applied for the rent he was there—he wanted me to give Midgley a fortnight to remove his goods out of the premises, and then he would give the hour up to me—there was a bedstead and a mattress there, which Mr. Miers said belonged to him—I do not know whether there was any stock—then was stock, but after I put the execution in, Mr. Miers hoped I would not take the boxes, which were in the back-room, second floor, on the bedstead, as he said they were his property—I saw those boxes—I think there must have been about ten or a dozen, at least—I should consides they were such as contain lace and ribbons in a haberdasher's shop—I seemed to acquiesce in his proposal of giving Midgley a fortnight, till I got out of doors; and having been served a dirty trick by another tenant and having received a letter, I thought it best to put in an execution—it was in consequence of information which I received that I put in the distress—after that, I was there with the broker, and saw Mr. Miers, and he wanted me to take 3l. at first, then 4l., and 5l., to withdraw the execution—to take that in cash, instead of the eight weeks' rent—I said I did not want to put them to distress, and if they would pay me 5l. I would withdraw the distress, and let them pay the rest when they could—Mr. Miers said he would see and get the 5l., and Midgley and he both went oat together, is endeavour to raise the money, but they came back and said they could not succeed—he said he hoped I would not enforce the distress-warrant, and proposed to give me a cheque on Mrs. Miers, his wife, for the 5l—I knew that she was his wife—I did not accept his proposal—I said that he had unmasked himself, and I should let the broker proceed—I said nothing more, but left the broker in to do his duty—they left the house, and I got possession, but not for some time—they gave me a deal of trouble—he gave the house up on the 15th of July—he left before that, I believe—I had received no rent before I put the distress in—it must have been in July that I put in the distress.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Were you offered any fixtures in lieu of rent? A. No—I was offered them in lieu of a£20 hill which Midgley gave me, but he took away some of my fixtures—it was a shop-door, which he promised to replace,, but, nearer didr—I was not examined at the police-office.

THOMAS WINK WORTH . I am a carrier, between London and Isleworth I know a linendraper's shop at Isleworth, kept by a person named Mrs. York—the name of "A. York" was on the door—I have chiefly seen one female in that shop—I do not know her name—I knew Mr. Miers's shop, in High-street—I have taken parcels from his shop to the shop at Isleworth, but seldom—I have nothing booked about it, as I was always paid for my labour as I delivered my parcels—the first time I took any, I think, was in the summer-time, and the last time, as near as I can say, about three or

four months ago, but I cannot say, for I paid no attention to it at all—it was some time before Christimas, now I call it to mind—it was most likely longer, but I never paid any attention to it—it is unknown to me How many parcels I took from one place to the other, as I never booked a parcel—it might be ten, or a dozen, or fifteen parcels—some of them were wrapped in paper, and some in canvas—they were various sizes—some were less than that box, and some might be five or six times larger—the male at Isleworth paid me—it was mostly a female, about thirty years if age, that I saw at Isleworth—I did not always go myself to the shop High-street for the parcels—I generally sent my lad for them—when I did go, I saw one man in the shop, and a boy; and at one time, a female, or there might be two females—I still go backwards and forwards to Isleworth—the linendraper's shop there was kept open but a very little while after I ceased carrying the parcels.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Were you before the Magistrate? A. No.

CHARLES BISCHOFF . I am a solicitor, carrying on business in Copthall-court. I am the proprietor of the house, No. 80, Surrey-place, Old Kent-road—in November last I let that house to the prisoner—I do not believe he occupied it—a Mrs. Clark occupied the house, and her name was over the door at Christmas—I do not know Mrs. York.

ELIZABETH PAUL . In November last I lived at No. 29, Surrey-place, Old Kent-road—Mr. Miers came to occupy the next house, No.10, and the shop was opened as a linen draper's—before it was opened saw some furniture come—I think that was about the beginning of December, but I cannot speak to dates—I saw a cart of household furniture, and the shop goods together—they were goods that are sold in men drapers' shops—I saw some boxes in which ribbons and Jaces are kept—I think it was in the early part of December that the shop was opened—on the morning of the day it was opened, I observed a coach stop at the door, and Mr. Miers get out of it—he handed out a female, and in me coach was a number of boxes and trunks which were handed out, and carpet bag—I do not know who the female was—she went into the house with Mr. Miers, I believe—I cannot say How many boxes there were—there might be three, or four, or five, I cannot say—I saw the prisoner the shop a few days after it was opened—I cannot say whether he was there every day—I saw him there as much as three times—it was in the evening that I saw him—the shop was closed in the early part of February—I cannot tell the day it was closed—I was from home that week with my daughter who was sick—I have a daughter who can speak to the fact—I observed the shop closed when I came back—I think it was on a Thursday that I returned and saw it closed—it did not open again that I recollect, until very lately. Quite at the end of February, I think—there were then bills in the window stating that the stock was to be sold off on the Monday following—it was open on the 1st or 2nd of March, and two or three days before that. Quite at the latter end of February—on the day I saw the bills in the window, stating that the stock was to be sold off; I observed the shop partly open—the shutters were down—there seemed to be stock in the shop in a confused state—I saw carts and a coach arrive, I think on the 2nd of March—that was not the day the stock was to be sold. but before—there were five small carts and a coach—I saw them go away Full of linen drapery—it was the stock of the shop which was taken away

—they drove up to the shop—I saw the linen drapery put in—I did not see Mr. Miers there—I had frequently observed coaches coming before that—I cannot state whether any thing was taken away—yes, once I saw a coach go away with trunks, and a carpet bag, similar to the trunks I saw arrive—that was some time before the 2nd of March—I saw the coach take away stock similar to that I had seen arrive in the coach with a female and Mr. Miers—trunks and a carpet bag—I did not see Miers when the coach took away those goods—a respectably-dressed man was with the coach—he get in after the coach was loaded.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. You were not before the Magistrate either, I believe? A. No.

MARY PAUL . I am the daughter of the last witness, and live next door to the shop which was opened in Surrey-road. I remember seeing the prisoner there—about ten o'clock one day, about the middle of December, I saw Mr. Miers arrive with a female—I do not know who the was—some boxes, some trunks, and a carpet bag were brought into the house—the shop opened the same morning about two hours after he had arrived—I saw him there several times after that—I have seen him in the middle of the day, and several times in the evening—the shop closed on a Monday, the 5th of February—it was not open at all that day—in the evening of that day I saw a cab at the door, and there were boxes and parcels inside the cab—I did not observe any trunks that day—the week following a hackney coach was at the door, and seemingly the same trunks, and boxes, and carpet bag went away—about the middle of February a van came to the house, and took away some household goods—I did not perceive any thing else taken away—on the 2nd of March there were five carts came in the evening—they were loaded at the door of the house. with the stock of the did which was taken away.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Were you before the Magistrate A. No.

THOMAS BROOKS . I am a linen-draper, carrying on business in South wark. On the 22nd or 23rd of February I heard of the sale of a linendraper's stock, at No. 30, Surrey-place, Old Kent-road—in consequence of what I heard I went, on the 23rd of February, to Queen-street, Cheapside and from there went with Mr. Jervis to No. 30, Surrey-place, Old Kent road—I effected a purchase there of him of some linen-draper's stock—there were shop marks on those goods—I told Mr. Toplis what those shop marks were, and they corresponded with those which Mr. Toplis had—I bought the stock in the lump, and afterwards disposed of it—among the articles there were a great quantity of satin ribbons—Mr. Jervis did not take down the quantities—it was taken by eye-sight—Mr. Weston took down the particulars—Mr. Jervis went away, and left us there—I paid for the stock—I gave Mr. Weston a cheque for£350 to give to Mr. Jervis—I afterwards disposed of the stock to Messrs. Warren—the stock of ribbons at the Surrey-road bore an extravagant proportion to the rest of the goods—about a fortnight ago I effected another purchase with Mr. Jervis of some shawls—those shawls bore the same shop mark which the other stock had borne—that purchase was effected by my partner at Mr. Jervis's office, in Queen-street, Cheapside—we gave 40l. for shawels and other things.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Pray How many interviews had you altogether with Mr. Jervis? A. Three, I think—I required from him

an explanation respecting the stock—the first time I saw Mr. Jervis I asked him if it was a legitimate sale, if I should be safe in making the purchase—he said yes, he would explain to me exactly How the case stood—he told the they were goods belonging to Mr. Miers, (there was no disguise about it,) whose house had been burnt down in High-street, Marylebone; that they were made over to his brother in part payment of a debt due to him by the prisoner—knowing Mr. Jervis to be a respectable man, I thought I should run no risk in making the purchase.

Q. Did he tell you whether any of the goods, to the amount of 40l., had Hen taken out of pawn? A. I never heard it—the second purchase was made by my partner—I was not present—that was the shawls—all I can say is, the shawls came to my shop, and I gave a cheque for them—we live in the Borough—I have seen Mr. Weston here to-day.

MR. CLARKBOH. Q. Mr. Jervis told you these were a transfer from the prisoner to his brother, did he produce any document, or merely give you his word for it? A. He gave me his word for it—I found the goods in Surrey-place—that was not the brother's house, at least I was given to understand not.

JOHN BARTLETT . I am an auctioneer. In May, or June last, I received some articles for sale from Midgley—among those articles was a carpet—I told that, and paid the money to Midgley—I had other articles for sale besides the carpet, there was household furniture and other goods—this paper as a list of the goods that were for sale—I made it out this morning—I have the catalogue—a few days after the carpet was sold, the prisoner Miers called on me—he did not have any conversation with me then—he called again, and demanded the money for the carpet—I told him I had paid slidgiey for it, and showed him Midgley's receipt—I had received part of the other goods from Mr. Miers, and part from Midgley—part were delivered by Mr. Miers himself—I went to his house if High-street for some, and part of them he delivered himself in a cab—some of the goods I am about to read came from No. 65, Crawford-street—(reading) I—consisting of a roller-blind, ladder, mahogany wash-stand, two coffee boilers, two tin covers, two wash-stands, sundry forms, three coffee-house settles, rods and curtains, three mahogany tap tables, pictures, wainscot chest of drawers, two coffee-house tables, two mahogany diningtables, boxes and partitions, a stump bedstead, blankets, feather bed and bolster, counterpane, pair of sheets, a napkin, six shawls, three Pieces of Irish linen, and two carpet bags—the principal part of those things were sold on the 1st of August, 1837—they were sold by auction—when Miers called for the money for the carpet, be said the carpet belonged to him, and I should not have paid Midgley—I sold the goods on commission for Mr. Green, to whom the auction-room belonged—Mr. Miers brought a letter from Midgley to say the goods belonged to him, authorising Mr. Green to pay him, not only for the goods which came from High-street, but also from Crawford-street—Mr. Green received the money as clerk of the sale, and having received the money from Mr. Green in part of the sale, I paid the prisoner part, but I do not think he has received the balance—I paid it in consequence of a communication made to me from Midgley, through the prisoner—while the goods were in the progress of being sold, Mr. Miers called at my house several times—he attended one sale, and bought goods.

Q. Now at any time when Mr. Miers called on you did he make inquiry as to your being able to sell any thing else for him? A. Yes he asked me if I could sell any shop goods—I cannot state at what time that was—it was prior to August, because the sale took place in August—the sale of the shop goods was in August—they were all in the same catalogue—was after that conversation that some of the shop goods I have read over was brought to me—about a month after the sale the prisoner called on me, and stated that he was about to dispose of some soiled goods, which he had at him house in High-street, and I solicited the sale in consequence of his having stated that he was going to fit up a lodging-house—I solicited his favour saying, I should like a good sale, and he could buy goods of us in exchange—he did not carry that into execution with me—I saw after this at his shop in High-street—the shop windows had bills in them that time to dispose of the stock—I did not speak to him in the shop—I did not go in—I saw him in the shop putting some articles in the window, and there were some bills stuck up about the stock selling off or to the effect—I really cannot say when that was—I cannot say How soon it was after the conversation about disposing of the soiled stock.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Is it not a very common thing in London for linen-drapers, as well as others, to put up bills about disposing of their stock at an enormous sacrifice, to induce customers to come? A. I have heard of such things—it is very common—I believe the same shop may have bills of that kind up for years together—I was not before the Magistrate.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Was any thing known of you at all, till within the last four or five days? A. Not till yesterday morning, when I was sent for.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Were these three pieces of Irish linen, which you sold for Mr. Miers, sold at a loss? A. I do not know what he paid for then.

Q. Did he not refuse, in consequence of what they were sold for, to he you have any more, and take away the shawls and carpet bag? A. He took the carpet bag and five shawls away.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Was it after that, he told you of his intention of selling off his stock? A. Yes.

FREDERICK FUTVOY . I am the agent of the London Parcels; Delivery Company—my place of business is in High-street, Marylebone. On Friday, the 19th of January last, I received a parcel from Mr. Mien—we haves book, in which we make our memoranda—it was directed to Mr. Bustin, No. 8, Ingram-court, Fenchurch-street—I remember hearing of the fire in High-street—this was the day before the fire—the size of the parcel, to the best of my recollection, was fifteen or sixteen inches square—I do not recollect the weight—after the parcel had been delivered to me, the person I always understood to be Miers, and believe to be the prisoner, came back to open it to put something else in—I cannot say whether it was a letter—it was a piece of white paper—I could not see what was in the parcel—I was at the further end of the shop—I believe the parcel was forwarded to Ingram-court—it was sent from us&#