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On the King's Commission of the Peace,



The City of London,





Before the Right Honourable WILLIAM TAYLOR COPELAND, LORD MAYOR of the City of London; Sir James Allan Park, Knt., one of the Justices of His Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; Sir Stephen Gaselee, Knt., one of the Justices of His Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; Sir John Gurney, Knt., one of the Barons of His Majesty's Court of Exchequer; Samuel Birch, Esq.; Matthew Wood, Esq.; Sir William Heygate, Bart.; William Thompson, Esq.; Sir John Key, Bart.; and Henry Winchester, Esq.; Aldermen of the said City of London; the Honourable Charles Ewan Law, Recorder of the said City; Thomas Kelly, Esq.; Sir Chapman Marshall, Knt.; James Harmer, Esq.; John Pirie, Esq.; and Thomas Wood, Esq.; Aldermen of the said City of London; John Mirehouse, Esq.; Common Sergeant of the said City; and William St. Julien Arabin, Sergeant at Law; His Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.


First Jury.

John Bradburn

William Henry Neale

George Starr

Thomas Maltwood

Andrew Moseley

Joseph Metcalfe

Robert Crisp

Charles Brennan

John Milligan

Labon Blanchard

John Mutman

John Mearey

Second Jury.

Josiah Bratt

George Morgan

Josiah Graham Loe

John Allan

John Bright

Benjamin Neville

Philip Mines

John Monument

Frederick Cock

Edward Miers

James Messenger

Joseph May

Third Jury

Thomas Massan

William Matthews

Charles King

Robert Rose

John Marson

William M'Guire

Charles Maddison

Kenneth M'Kenzie

Thomas Mason

William Maybo

Richard Munns

Matthew Peak

Fourth Jury

John M'Dougal

William Butterworth

John Betts

Charles Henry Hambleton

David Denham

James Murray

William Prout

William Beckwith

John Lencaster

George Hatfull

William Evens

Samuel Mitchell

Fifth Jury.

Thomas Alexander M'Bean

George Murray

Henry Catter

Benjamin Elsom

William Bingley

John Hoyle

Felix Maggs

William Murray

John Ealy

John George Meyer

Thomas Mills

George Davis

Sixth Jury.

Richard Smith

Thomas John Graham

James Smith

William Morgan

Henry Martin

Natheniel Smith

John Mullings

John Martin

Thomas Marven

William Marks

John Munroe

Alexander M'Diarmid



A star (*) denotes that the prisoner has been previously in custody—An obelisk (†), that the prisoner is known to be the associate of bad characters.


Before Mr. Justice Park.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-688
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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688. JOHN DRUMMOND was indicted for burglariously breaking, and entering the dwelling-house of William Jackson, about the hour of one in the night of the 9th of February, at St. Mary, Newington, with intent to steal, and stealing therein, 1 cash-box, value 1s.; 1 sovereign; 1 half-crown; 16 shillings; 4 sixpences; and 12 3/4d. in copper money; the goods and monies of the said William Jackson.

ELIZA BERWICK JACKSON . I am the wife of William Jackson. He is a greeen-grocer, and lives at No. 7, Heatham-place, Dover-road, in the parish of St. Mary, Newington, Surrey—we keep the house, and have two lodgers—on Tuesday evening, the 9th of February, my husband went out about half-past eight o'clock—he came home between one and two o'clock—I did not sit up for him—I went to bed—I left the side-door open for him without a lock—there is no latch to it—I merely put it too—shortly after I got up stairs the clock struck eleven—the shop was safe when I went to bed—the shop and dwelling-house are all one building—the street-door leads into a passage which leads into the yard—there is a parlour behind the shop, and that room has a window looking into the back yard—a person by going along the passage, which I left open, could get to the back window—when I went to bed that window was shut down, but not fastened—there is no fastening to it—there is a shutter, but we never shut it—I am sure the window was quite shut down when I went to bed—I locked the parlour door when I went to bed, and took the key up stairs with me—I had left the cash-box on the side-board in the back room—it had 2l. 2s. in it—there was one sovereign, one half-crown, and the rest in shillings and sixpences, except 1s. or 1s. 1d., which was in copper—I had counted it before I went to bed—I was called by the policeman between one and two o'clock in the morning—there is a door from the passage into the yard which the window looks into—I fastened that door with a bolt, but the bolt was on the side which any person coming in from the street, or the people down stairs, could undo it—when I came down, I found that bolt undone, and the door was open, and the window was open wide enough for a man to get in, I should think—I went up stairs for the key of the parlour, and missed the money-box—I know the box—I saw it again at Union Hall the next day—there is a compass on the lid of it—I had locked that box before I went to bed—I know the prisoner—he

had been above twelve months in our employ, and had left us a week before this.

CHARLES THOMPSON (police-constable M 32.) I was on duty in Heatham-place, Kent-street, on the day in question—about half-past one o'clock in the morning, I saw the prisoner come out of Mr. Jackson's dwelling-house with something bulky under his arm—I followed him with Manning my brother officer—as soon as the prisoner saw he was so closely pursued, he hove down this box from under his arm, down on the ground—Manning picked it up—I went after the prisoner—he run for about ten minutes—I overtook him and took him to the station-house—he was searched, but nothing was found on him—I went back to Mr. Jackson's house—I went in, and found the yard-door open, and the window as far up as it could go—a person might get in there with ease—I called up the family.

MICHAEL MANNING (police-constable M 173.) I went with the last witness in pursuit of the prisoner—he had passed me with something under his arm, which at the time I thought was a parcel—we followed him some distance—he found we were closing on him—he threw it down on the ground, and at the time I heard some money jingle—I took up the box and found on the spot 7s. 6d. in silver, and about 12d., or 13d. in copper—I examined the box, which he had thrown down, at the station, and found it was broken open—when we came back, I searched the place, and found one farthing by the light of a lantern, and the next morning at day-light, I found another farthing.

ELIZA BERWICK JACKSON . This is the box which I locked up that night—I am sure it is mine—the lid is broken off.

Prison's Defence. I was intoxicated at the time, and did not know what I was about.

WILLIAM JACKSON . I am the prosecutor. The prisoner was in my employ about twelve months—I found him truly honest—he travelled with me in the country, and had an opportunity of knowing my premises.

(Charles Watts, a brewer, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury, on account of his good character.

Before Mr. Justice Park.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-669
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown
SentenceDeath; Death

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669. JOHN DAVIS, alias Florance McCarthy , JOHN MCVEE , and JOHN CARTER , were indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Richmond Chalcraft, about the hour of three, in the night of the 25th of February, at Low-Layton, Essex, with intent to steal, and stealing therein 1 clock, value 20l.; 2 candlesticks, value 20s.; 1 pair of snuffers and tray, value 20s.; 3 spoons, value 16s.; 1 caddy-ladle, value 2s.; 1 cruet-top, value 1s.; 2 coats, value 2l. 10s.; 3 cloaks, value 3l.; 2 hats, value 9s.; 1 pair of shoes, value 3s.; and 1 pair of boots, value 3s.; the goods of the said Richmond Chalcraft: and 1 coat, value 2l.; 1 handkerchief, value 3s.; and 1 pair of gloves, value 6d.; the goods of Joseph Walker Pease.

RICHMOND CHALCRAFT . I live in the parish of Low-Layton, in Essex, and am a housekeeper there. On Thursday evening, the 25th of February. I was the last person up in my house—I went to bed about eleven o'clock—I had left the house properly secured—all the doors and windows were fastened, except the pantry-window, which had iron bars outside—my servant came up and informed me, soon after six o'clock in the morning, that

the house had been robbed—it was then light—it was day-break—I arose immediately, and went down—some persons had got in through the pantry-window—the iron bars were torn from the wood-work—I did not miss any thing from the pantry, but I missed a bracket-clock which had stood in the dining-room, which was worth 20l., I am sure—I missed a pair of plated candlesticks, worth 20s.; a pair of snuffers and stand, worth 20s.; one table-spoon, one tea-spoon, one salt-spoon—they were worth 10s.; in my judgment—there was a silver tea-spoon taken from the caddy—there were three coats missed altogether—two of mine—one was one of the witness's—I have pupils—I gave information to the constable of the parish as soon as I was dressed—I was with him, and saw a cab about 300 yards from my house, going towards the village of Laytonstone, on the way to London—the prisoners M'Vee and Davis were in it—I stopped it there was an apron to the cab, which was thrown open, and I was struck with the sight of my own clock—I saw nothing else—there was a dark lantern left in my house.

THOMAS WELLS . I am a constable, and live in the parish of Low-Layton. I received information of the robbery about half-past seven o'clock, and in consequence I went towards the house which had been robbed, and in going there I met the cab—the two prisoners Davis and M'Vee were in it—I went to the Green Man yard—I went after the cab—I opened the apron of the cab, and saw the clock at the feet of the prisoners—I found nothing else—Davis had a pair of boots on, which were claimed by Mr. Chalcraft, in his presence—he said he had bought them in Petticoat-lane about five days before.

ELIZABETH HOLLIS . I am in the service of Mr. Chalcraft. I fastened up the house in the evening, at ten o'clock—I went to bed at ten o'clock—I arose at six o'clock in the morning—it was quite light then.

FREDERICK MATTHEWS . I drive a cab. On the morning in question I drove Davis and M'Vee to Layton—it was a quarter past six o'clock when I passed Whitechapel church—I was returning at twenty minutes past seven o'clock, or from that to half an hour—I am sure it was Davis and M'Vee, but Carter was not there—I took them just on this side of the Red Lion at Layton—they got out there and walked on the Forest—I went on to the Green Man and waited for them—that is nearly a quarter of a mile from where I sat them down—I waited there about ten minutes for them, and then M'Vee came—he brought nothing with him—I went on to the Forest to meet Davis, at M'Vee's desire—he had a clock with him—the cab had an apron—they both got in then, and told me to drive towards town—they told me no particular place—they were in the cab when the constable came up and took them.

THOMAS SHELSWELL . I am a police-officer of Lambeth-street. About half-past eleven o'clock last Friday morning, in consequence of information, I went in pursuit of Carter—I met with him at the Golden Eagle, Shadwell—I searched him at the moment, and took from his coat-pocket this handkerchief and a pair of gloves—I then asked him whose property the handkerchief was—he said it was his own—I then took him into custody, and took him to the station-house, and told him he was suspected of being concerned in a burglary at Laytonstone—he did not make any answer to that.

MICHAEL HEMMINGS . I am a licensed victualler, and live in Whitechapel. Davis and Carter came to my house together, to have a pot of beer or ale, about eight or nine o'clock on Thursday night, the 25th of February.

JOSEPH WALKER PEASE . I am a pupil of Mr. Chalcraft. This handkerchief

is mine I am sure—to the best of my knowledge it was thrown on my coat, which I had had on the night before, and left in the back parlour—I am not certain about these gloves, but I believe they are mine.

MR. CHALCRAFT. This is my clock—I have not the slightest doubt of it.

THOMAS BARFORD . I keep the Green Man. I know the two prisoners who were taken that morning from the cab—I had seen M'Vee in my tap-room a little after seven o'clock in the morning—I did not see them together till they were taken in the cab—when the cab started from my yard I followed it to Forest-place, when it was stopped.

Davis's Defence. On Friday morning, at twenty minutes to six o'clock, I got up, and met two men who I knew by sight having some gin—I went in—they asked me to drink—I said yes—they asked me if I would earn a few shillings—I said I would—we had two glasses of rum apiece—they asked me if I would go down so and so with a cab, and they would pay me for it—they told me where this property was laid, on the Forest, down a lane—they said they would give me 10s. to pay the cab, and if I could get it cheaper I was to have the remainder—I hired a cab for 6s. but before I went I called on M'Vee to accompany me down—I knocked at his door three times—he got up, and I asked him to go and take a ride with me—he said he would if I was back before breakfast-time—I said I should be—we went to the public-house where the two men were drinking—they called for half-a-pint of rum—we had a glass apiece, and we got into the cab—on going along, I told the cabman if they gave me the 10s. I would give him 7s.—I then left the cab, and went and found the property, and sent M'Vee back for the cab—it came down, and I put the property in it—when I went down for the clock the boots were with it—I put them on, and left my own shoes there, which I believe the officers found—they told me to put them on, being too small for one of them.

Carter's Defence. I was taken in Ratchliffe-highway, on suspicion of this robbery. On the first examination Pease swore to the gloves being his—on the second examination I explained to him where I got them, that my brother gave them to me—I was sent to Clerkenwell for three months, and these gloves were in the possession of the policeman, K.S.—when I explained this to Pease he would not swear to them the second time—it is a very hard case to let him swear to that handkerchief; any person might go into the same shop and buy a handkerchief like that—I bought it in Field-lane on Wednesday—that was the day I fetched the gloves from the station-house.

COURT to J. W. PEASE. Q. Did you lose a pair of gloves? A. Yes, I did.

DAVIS;— GUILTY .— DEATH . Aged 21.

MCVEE;— GUILTY .— DEATH . Aged 25.


Before Mr. Justice Park.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-670
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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670. DANIEL SIMMONDS was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of James Wright, about the hour of ten in the night on the 14th of February, at St. Giles in the Fields, with intent to steal.

JAMES WRIGHT . I live at No. 27, Denmark-street, in the parish of St. Giles-in-the-fields. I am the owner of the house—I am a coach-trimmer and harness-maker—I let the bottom part of the house for a beer shop—I have no shop of my own—I have not done any business for some time—I am sure I am the landlord of the house—there is a communication

tbetween my house and the beer-shop—there is a door that goes into the passage—about half-past ten o'clock on Sunday night, the 14th of February, is ring at my bell first attracted my attention—I keep the two rooms on the first floor, and the back room on the second floor—the bell rung in consequence of my nephew calling for something he had left there—I went down one flight of stairs, and met my lodger's daughter on the first-floor landing, and she opened the door—my nephew came up stairs—I gave him the light to go up stairs and get his parcel—before the shade of the light had gone I put the key into the first-floor door, and found the bolt would not shut—I laid hold of the handle of the door and found it was open—I went in about two or three steps, and discerned a light as I thought, but I thought probably it might be the gas-light—I stood for a moment, and saw a man's arm advance with a light, by which I could distinguish up as far as the elbow—I called out "Who are you? what do you want there?"—upon which the light was immediately dropped or put out—at the moment I saw the figure of a man, by the gas, through the window, endeavouring to conceal himself behind my elbow-chairs; finding no concealment there, in his endeavours to get away from that place he overturned a mabogany table—I called out to my nephew, "William, William, bring down the light; quick, quick!"—he came down, and the noise that was made brought down two or three of my lodgers—we went into the room, and one of the parties said, "Here he is under the table"—they laid hold of him—the prisoner is the man—I found a portmanteau in the inner room was opened, and two parcels of paper taken out—it had not been opened before—not at six o'clock, for I saw it safe then—the papers were laid on a table—the officer has the things found in the room—there was a hat fount.

JOHN BARFIELD . I am a lodger in the prosecutor's house. I remember the alarm on Sunday night—I came down after the light came, and saw the prisoner underneath a large table, down on the floor—I asked him how he got in—he said he came in at the wrong door—I saw two hats on the table—he had no shoes on—he had his shoes in his pocket—I asked what he pulled his shoes off for?—he said, because they pinched him—he asked for his bat—I gave him the first one I came to—he said that was not his hat—his hat was on the table—they were both together—I found one chisel, one screw-driver, and a plumber's knife, lying within two feet of him.

WILLIAM WRIGHT . I am the nephew of the prosecutor. I went to his house that night—he called me down stairs, and when I came down I saw my uncle at the door—I did not go into the room—I saw the prisoner stooping down, and endeavouring to conceal himself under the table—I saw him taken—the prisoner is the man—I went for a constable.

WILLIAM WINTER (police-constable F 33.) I am the person that the last witness called that night—when I got to the prosecutor's house I saw the prisoner on the first floor—he had his shoes on then—I found nothing there—I searched the prisoner, and found a pistol tinder-box on him.

THOMAS CARTER (police-constable F 37.) I was called in on this evening, and saw the prisoner there—I assisted in searching him—I found a chisel, knife, screw-driver, and a piece of candle in the room—I went to Mr. Wright's after I took him to the station-house, and then picked up these things—I compared the chisel with the marks on the door of the front room on the first floor, and they tallied.

Prisoner. I hope you will recommend me to mercy: it is my first offence.

GUILTY— DEATH . Aged 28.

Before Mr. Justice Park.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-671
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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671. WILLIAM PYE was indicted for a robbery on Benjamin Thomas Tiptod, on the 6th of February, at St. Pancras, putting him in fear, and taking from his person, and against his will, 7 half-crowns, the monies of the said Benjamin Thomas Tiptod.

BENJAMIN THOMAS TIPTOP . I am cellarman to Messrs. Meux and Co., and live No. 6, North-place, Somerstown. On Saturday night, the 6th of February, a little before nine o'clock, I was going home; and when I was in the middle of Drummond-street I was suddenly tripped up, and fell on my back—I found a hand at my right-hand waistcoat-pocket—I had eight half-crowns and a sixpence there—I had spent some of my small cash in coming home; I had received my wages, eight half-crowns and four shillings—I called out "Murder"—the man ran away directly—when I got up I put my hand to my pocket, and found I had lost some silver—I could not tell what I had lost—I did not examine then—I was then conducted to the station—one of the policeman came up, and took me to the station-house—I got none of my money back—I then found I had one half-crown and a sixpence left—I had been drinking—it was dark—I cannot tell who did it—I am sure I was not so drunk that I fell down and lost my money—I could walk—I cannot tell where the person came, but I think on me side of me—it was done momentarily.

JAMES CHAPPEL (police-constable S 88.) I was in Drummond-street on the night in question, and saw the prosecutor on his back, and the prisoner astride over him—I was about six yards off at the time "Murder" was called—when I got within about three yards of him he made off—I pursued the prisoner—he was stopped by a baker—as soon as he got hold of him on one side, I got hold of him on the other—he was never out of my sight at all—I took him to the station, and after the prosecutor came to the station I was ordered on search the prisoner—I found in his great-coat pocket seven half-crowns, five-pence in copper, a knife, and a shoe-horn—I have them here—the prisoner never said any thing about the money; he only asked what right I had to collar him—I said, when he got to the station-house he would hear all about it—the sergeant asked his name and address, which he refused to give—the sergeant said, "I think your name is something like Pye"—he said nothing to that.

BENJAMIN THOMAS TIPTOD re-examined. Q. Did you lose any thing beside the half-crowns? A. Nothing at all.

Prisoner's Defence. I know nothing of the prosecutor—I never saw him at all till I was at the station-house—the policeman swor he never lost sight of me; and if I had been the man that committed the robbery, and where he took me, which was in Seymour-street, I must have turned two corners.

(Mary Donohue gave the prisoner a good character.) GUILTY.— DEATH . Aged 23.

Before Mr. Justice Park.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-672
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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672. CHARLES WILLIS and GEORGE WILLIS were indicted for feloniously assaulting George Wilkinson, on the 22nd of January, at Tottenham, Middlesex, putting him in fear, and violently and against his will, taking from his person 1 watch, value 10l.; 1 watch-chain, value 6l.; 2 seals, value 1l.; 2 watch-keys, value 5s.; 15 sovereigns, and 10 half-sovereigns; the goods and monies of the said George Wilkinson.

MESSRS. CLARKSON and Doane conducted the Prosecution.

GEORGE WILKINSON . I live at Tottenham with my mother. On the 22nd of January I went to London for the purpose of getting some money—I returned home about four o'clock in the afternoon—I had 30l. in my pocket on my return, in two bank notes of 5l., and twenty sovereigns—after I returned from London to Tottenham, I delivered the notes to my mother—I know the Swan at Tottenham—I went there about eight o'clock—I had the gold in my left-hand breeches pocket—I took some gin and water in the bar—I remained there till nearly eleven o'clock—I then went towards home—I live about two hundred yards from the Swan—on my way home I was struck on my ham, thrown down on my back, and a hand was put over my mouth—that was done from behind—I cannot say whether it was done by one or more than one person—it was quite dark—I had only taken a couple of glasses of gin and water—I cannot tell how many men knocked me down—I had my great-coat on, which they ripped open, and my other coat and waistcoat—I had a gold watch in my fob—a hand was put into my left-hand pocket—a hand took my watch, chain, and seal—the hand was over my mouth all the time that the other hand was in my pocket—they first took my money, and then the watch—no one spoke—they then went away—I had some keys in my left-hand waistcoat pocket—I got up and ran straight home into the kitchen—I was about twenty yards from home—I ran into the kitchen and told the servant I had been robbed—I ascertained that I had lost my gold watch, chain, and seals, and the twenty sovereigns—I afterwards returned to the spot where I had been thrown down, with one of the servants—I there found the keys which had been in my pocket.

Sarah Blake. I am servant to Mr. Gurr, who keeps the Swan, and was so on the 22nd of January. I saw Mr. Wilkinson—he came there about eight o'clock at night into the bar, and remained there till about a quarter to eleven o'clock—on that evening I saw the prisoner Charles Willis—I had seen him before—I did not see the other prisoner there—the prisoner Charles left about half-past ten o'clock—he had been some time there—I saw him go out—John Oliver went out with him—I know that Charles Willis lives down the Hale-lane, at the back of the Rose and Crown—they did not go towards their homes—instead of turning to the left hand they turned to the right, the same road as Mr. Wilkinson would have to go—they left before the prosecutor—there were many others in the tap-room at the time they left—the other persons remained in the tap-room about twenty minutes after the prosecutor had left—about half-past eleven I heard of the robbery—Mr. Wilkinson's footman came into the bar and mentioned it—I did not see Charles Willis after that evening.

Charles Willis. She told Mr. Robinson that Mr. Wilkinson went out of her master's at half-past eleven o'clock. Witness. No, I did not.

COURT. Q. Did you see while Mr. Wilkinson was in your house that he had any conversation with the prisoner? A. I did not see, but they were sitting near each other.

THOMAS WOLSTONHOLME . I am shopman to Mr. Barker, a pawnbanker in Houndsditch. I remember the prisoner Charles Willis coming there on the 3rd of February, to pawn a gold watch-chain, between two and three o'clock—there was nothing appended to it—observing his apperance I felt well convinced it could not belong to him—I asked him whose chain it was—he said his own, and he had had it between five and six years—he had given me the name of James Willis, of Old-street-road, I think—I asked him where he purchased it—he said of a person of the name of Stevans—I asked him where Stevens lived—he said it was

a lady of that name, in Holborn—I then asked him what it cost himhe said 13l.—it is worth about 3l., 10s.—I then asked him where the rings were belonging to the chain—he said they were pledged in Holborn—he said he did not recollect the pawnbroker's name—I then asked him where the duplicates were—he said they were at home—he then said, "Do you doubt about its being my own?"—I said, "You give a very unsatisfactory account of it"—he then said, "If you doubt I will just step outside and fetch my brother, who will give an account of it"—he stepped out and returned in about five minutes with another person—he did not say who he was—I asked him how long he knew that person to have had the chain—he said, "About six months"—finding this account was very different, I sent the boy to fetch a policeman—I got over the counter to look for one, in the mean time the other person left the shop, and got away—it was not the other prisoner—I gave Charles Willis into custody of the policeman—he afterwards gave his name as Charles Willis—I have heard that the name of the person he brought in was James Oliver—Charles Willis gave me his name "James Wood, No. 13, Goswell-street"—I have the memorandum which I made at the time.

COURT to MR. WILKINSON. Q. Is that your chain? A. I have not the least doubt of it—it had two rings to it, and cost me 10l. then.

JOSEPH FORSTER . I am constable of Tottenham. I went to Giltspur-street Computer, and saw Charles Willis there, but I had been to Mr. Barker first, in Houndsditch—at Giltspur-street I asked for James Wood, and Charles Willis was produced—I had known him two or three years—I asked him how long his name had been James Wood—he made no reply to that—I heard he had gone by that name at Barker's, No. 91, Houndsditch—I then said, "I thought we were not far out of our judgment when we apprehended you for the robbery before"—I was speaking of the same robbery—he said he did not commit the robbery—I had taken him and Oliver up for this robbery on the Monday after the robbery, which was on the Friday night—he was then discharged, because we had not sufficient evidence—he said he was not the person who committed the robbery—I asked him how he came in possession of the gold-chain—he said that it was put into his pocket by some person in the tap-room, at the Swan, at Tottenham High-cross—I think he said the right-hand jacket pocket—I asked him if he could tell me where the seals were—he said he could not—I produce no seals—I found them on another day—the pawnbroker has them—he told me he knew nothing of the watch.

COURT. Q. Was any name mentioned by you? A. I asked him who the third person was, who was with him and Oliver—he had named to me that Oliver was with him at the Swan, on the night of the robbery—I apprehended George Willis.

THOMAS LAW BEESTON . I am foreman to Mr. Whiskard, a pawnbroker in Bishopgate-street. George Willis came to my shop on the 3rd of February, to pledge some seals and keys—he asked 10s. for them—there are two seals—one is gold, and the other is agate, mounted with a loop of gold; and two keys, one metal, and one gold—he gave me the name of George Willis, No. 15, Worship-street, Shoreditch—I enquired if they belonged to him—he said, yes, they were his own—I had seen him before, and had no suspicion.

GEORGE WILKINSON re-examined. Q. Have you seen the watch since the robbery? A. Yes; in Mr. Newson's hands.

THOMAS NEWSON . I am a watchmaker, and reside at Tottenham. I know Mr. Wilkinson—I had his watch frequently to repair—the chain.

seal, and keys were attached to it—I have the watch at my house, but have not brought it here to-day.

MR. WILKINSON. This chain, these seals and keys, are mine—they were taken from me that night.

George Willis's Defence. John Oliver gave me the seals to pledge for him.



Before Mr. Justice Park.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-673
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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673. DENNIS CRAWLEY was indicted for feloniously assaulting Ann Hill, on the 17th of February, at Walthamstow, Essex, putting her in fear, and violently and against her will taking from her person 1 shawl, value 4s.; and 3 handkerchiefs, value 3d., the goods of the said Ann Hill: and 1 gown, value 2s. 6d., the goods of John Hill.

ANN HILL . I live at Bishop Stortford, in Hertfordshire. On the Wednesday before the 20th of February I was at Epping—I stopped there at Mrs. Clarke's, at the White Lion, and had my dinner, and then came on to London—I was alone, and had a bundle with me—about nine o'clock the prisoner overtook me—he said nothing to me, but hit me on the left side of my head—he had been at the public-house—I had left him there, and had got above a mile from the public-house before he overtook me—he had not spoken to me in the public-house, nor I to him—I had stopped at another public-house before he came up, and had half-a-pint of beer; I then went on my way—when the prisoner came up, he passed me and went into a public-house—I passed that house, and he overtook me, and gave me a blow on the head—I fell into the ditch—I got up, and went and rang at a gentleman's house—he did nothing else to me, only took the bundle—I did not see his face—he had a blue coat, black trowsears, low shoes, white stockings, and a paper cap—I had a gown, shawl, three pocket-handkerchiefs, and a letter, wrapped up in a buff handkerchief, cross-barred—I saw the prisoner running away when I was getting out of the ditch—I saw he had a paper cap when I was in the public-house—I saw him the next day at Lambeth-street, before the Magistrate; and the articles were produced to me there—I was coming to London to see my father and mother.

Prisoner. Q. What time of day was it when you first saw me? A. I cannot tell—I should think near two o'clock—the robbery was committed about nine o'clock.

COURT. Q. What time did you come away from the house where you took your dinner? A. I stopped there about half an hour, and came away about two o'clock—it snowed, and I stood up—I was walking from two o'clock till nine o'clock—I took my beer at a public-house, but I did not stop—I stood up from the snow—I had got two miles from the second, public-house where I had the beer—I had gone one mile from the first public-house when he first passed me.

Prisoner. Q. How much beer did we have in the first public-house? A. None at all—I was on one side of the room, and he on the other.

Q. What did you sit upon in the wood during the time the snow was going on? A. Nothing at all—I was standing under a willow.

Prisoner. She sat on my bundle and her own. Witness. I did not.

JOSEPH EASTLAND . I am a watchman of Strarford. I stopped the prisoner in Stratford, about a quarter before two o'clock in the morning, on the 18th—he had a bundle and a basket slung across his shoulder, tied

together with a handkerchief—I asked what he had in the bundle—he saw he had got two pair of old trowsets—I untied it, and there was nothing else in there—I asked what he had got in the basket—he said two or three old brushes, an old saucepan, and a bit of beaver, which he did his hats with—he had neither hat nor cap—I asked him what he had got more—he said, "Nothing but an old shirt and a pair of stockings"—I put my hand inside the basket, and found the gown and shawl there—I took him to Mr. Wright, the constable.

JOHN WRIGHT . I keep the house where the witness brought the prisoner. I examined the bundle and basket, and under some rubbish in the basket. some brushes and other things, I discorved a gown, a shawl, and two handkerchief; and on searching him, in him, in his left-hand coat pocket I found a letter—I had asked him before if he had not a letter about him—he said, "No"—I was at that time searching his packets, and in his lefthand coat pocket I found a sealed letter—I asked him if it was his own—he said, "Yes"—I asked him what was the direction on it—he said he did not know—he them said, "I will tell you the truth; I met with a young women as I came from Epping, and we had drink together at several places, and she asked me to carry her bundle for her; the night was very windy, and I slipped my foot into a slough and fell, and on getting up, I lost my cap and stick, and missed the young women"—I observed, "Was the wind so high as to blow her away?"—he said he did not know, he had had some drink—I then handcuffed him, and had him locked up.

Prisoner. Q. Was not the bundle tied up in an old block apron? A. No. in a buff handkerchief, which the prosecutrix identified as the one her bundle was tied up in.

ANN HILL re-examined. Q. Is it true that you and he drank together at several places? A. No; I did not drink with him at any places—I never gave him my bundle to carry—I did not see him fall into a slough—my letter was directed to "Catherine Lynes, Ealing-grove "—I cannot write nor read—my sister wrote it—I remember it was so directed, and on the seal was "Mary."

Prisoner. Q. What did I do with the shilling you gave me in the public-house? A. I did not give him any shilling—or any thing.

Prisoner's Defence. At the first commencement I was having my dinner at the White Lion at Epping, where I lodged—this young women came in and sat down, and called for a pint of beer—I was having my dinner—about five minutes after her leaving the house, I quitted, and overtook her on the road—we fell into conversation—the next public-house we came to, I asked her to have some beer—she said, "No"—the next public-house we came to, we went in and had two pints of beer—a little after leaving the house there was a good fall of snow—there was a wood by the side of the road—we both went in for shelter—coming out of the wood, two men came along—one of them said that we had been doing something in the wood—with a smile we put it off—we came to the next public-house, and had three or four posts of beer—then we came on the road, and a young man challenged me to walk with him to the next public-house for a pot of beer—we left this women and the other man behind, and got to the house and waited for them there—three men challenged us there to toss for three pots of beer—we lost—we had some more—one of them got drunk—the other stopped to take care of him, and I and this woman came on towards London—we went into the next public-house, and I asked her if she would have some bread and cheese—she said, "Yes"—they brought—I tossed with another man lost—I asked her, as my money was exhausted, if she had got two or three halfpence—she

gave me a shilling—I had some more beer—I did not give her the change—I was intoxicated.

MICHAEL CRAWLEY . I saw the prisoner and this young women together—they were in our company for there miles along the road—I joined them about fourteen miles out of London, on Epping Forest—we went into two public-houses and had some beer—there was another young chap along with me—the first public-house we went into we had three pots—we pot apiece—the young women drank with us—at the second house we had three pots more—it was exactly two miles from one house to the other—this man and women went out and left us two in the house—there was about a dozen—there of the company tossed up, and we lost.

Q. At that time neither the prisoner nor the woman was there? A. Yes—they did not go out before the beer was drunk—we parted in the last public-house—I and my companion had been out selling oranges—I did not come to Stratford with the prisoner—I was six miles from Stratford when I parted with him—I am no relation of his—I did not know him before—I have seen him—I had not been at the public-house at Epping—we fell in with him just between three and four o'clock—I had not seen him above once before—that was at Stratford—I did not meet them in the road, but by the side of the wood—the wood is a little way from the road—twenty or thrity yards—I did not see them in the wood, nor came out of the wood.

DENNIS MAHONEY . I and the last witness were coming home—we met the women and the prisoner coming out of the wood—the man spoke to us—he was no acquaintance of mine—I never saw him before, that I know of—he asked us where we were going—we went to a public-house, and had a pint or two of beer—they then left us, and we saw no more of them.

ANN HILL re-examined. Q. Were you near enough to hear what these two last men have said? A. Yes—there is not one word truth in it—I am lame—when the prisoner knocked me down, he trod on my thigh in getting up himself—this gown is John Hill's—the shawl is my own.

GUILTY.— DEATH . Aged 26.


OLD COURT, Monday, February 29th, 1836.

First Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-674
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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674. THOMAS MATCHAM was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of January, at All Saints, Poplar, 1 mare, price 30l., the property of John Jordan.

JOHN JORDAN . I live at Milton, near Sittingbourne. On the 15th of January, I missed a mare from a stable in my farm-yard, about half-past four o'clock in the morning—I know the prisoner very well—I had seen him on Thursday, the 14th, and spoken to him, at one of my farm houses at Milton—his aunt is the wife of a servant of mine—I found him in the custody of Adcock, about a quarter before eleven o'clock on Sunday night, the 17th, in Whitechapel, and said to him, "Thomas, this is a bad job, you did not except to see me here"—I saw him afterwards at the police-station, near Spitalfields church—the policeman asked how he came up to town—he said he did not wish to tell a story, that he had rode my horse up, and she was to be found at a stable in Harrow-lane, Lime house—I

found it there on Monday morning, the 18th, between one and two o'clock before daylight it is worth from 25l. to 30l.—I could not replace her for 30l.—I have not found any paper left on my premises.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Is the stable in an open yard? A. Yes—the prisoner said he had left a written paper on my premises—I searched, but I could not find it—the prisoner's father and grandfather were tenants of the same farm once—I have heard they are respectable people.

Q. Did not the prisoner say he had staid too late for the coach, and rode your mare to town, intending to return her on Monday, and had written so on a paper which he had left in the stable? A. He did not say so in my presence on the Monday night—he said at the examination that he meant to return her; but I do not bring the recollect his saying so that night, and do not believe he said he was about to bring the mare down next morning—Richard Churchill had the care of my stables—he is the son of the prisoner's aunt, who is the wife of one of my waggoners—I found the mare in a very stale and distressed state, and very dirty—there was no bay in the rack.

CHARLES ADCOCK (police-constable H 98.) In consequence of information, I took the prisoner into custody, in High-street, Whitechapel, at a quarter before eleven o'clock on the evening of the 17th of January—I told him he was my prisoner, on suspicion of stealing a mare—he said he hoped not—I said, "You are, and must go to the police-station with me"—Mr. Jordan overtook us on the road, and said, "you did not expect to see me here, Thomas"—he said, "No, I did not; it is a bad job"—we went to the station-house—he was asked how he came up to London—he said, "On horseback; it is no use my telling stories, I took your mare, Mr. Jordan"—he said I should find it in Harrow-lane, Poplar—he directed me to a man there, who goes by the name of Tom, the ostler—he said Tom lived in Blackboy-lane, which is nearly opposite Harrow-lane—I found Tom, and he took me to Smith's, who belongs to the stable, and they both together delivered me up the mare.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you not state before the Magistrate, that the prisoner said, at the station-house, that he had rode Mr. Jordan's mare to town? A. He said he took Mr. Jordan's mare, and rode to town—he said, at first, he rode to town, and then said he took Mr. Jordan's mare—he did not say he was too late for all the coaches, and intended to return the mare next morning—he said so before the Magistrate—I have known him between two and three years—he once kept a livery-stable in Whitechapel—it was there I first found him.

RICHARD CHURCHILL . I am a waggoner, and live at Milton, near Sittingbourne. I was the last man at the stable—I left the mare safe, as the clock struck ten, on the 15th—I locked the stable door, and took the key in my pocket, and at a quarter past four o'clock in the morning, I found the stable door wide open, and the window also, and the mare gone—a person getting through the window could open the door inside—the window is large enough for a person to get through—I had seen the prisoner about, on the Thursday afternoon before—he is a farmer's son in the neighbourhood—I found no paper in the stable—I heard he had said one was left there, but I could find nothing of the sort—I never searched for it myself, as I did not hear of it till the day after—I hung the key behind the door, on a nail, but saw nothing of any paper—I did not look for it, because the stable had been cleaned out two or three times before.

Cross-examined. Q. Who cleaned it out? A. I did—I noticed the nail where I always hung the key, but saw no fresh nail.

THOMAS SMITH . I am a horsekeeper, and live in Bishopsgate-street, I took the mare from the Bull, Bishopsgate-street, by direction of the prisoner, on the 16th January, between two and three o'clock, to Smith's, in Harrow-lane, Poplar—it was fed there—it was not very dirty then, and did not seem very distressed nor tired—Smith is a confectioner, and keeps one pony—he employed me to clean the mare, but I could not find time—I am sure it was fed—the prisoner directed me to take the mare down until the Monday, and take great care of her, and said that on Monday he should take her back again to the country.

Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN. Q. Did you know the prisoner before? A. Yes, for some time—I do not know that he kept horses at the Bull, as a horse-dealer—he came to me at the Swan, Bishopsgate-street, and asked me to take it to Poplar—I knew him in Harrow-lane, where he used to keep a horse or two, of his own—his goods were to be taken down to Feversham, on Monday, by the boat, from Popular—on Saturday night he sent me out for a horse and cart—I could not get one; and between nine and ten o'clock he got one, and sent some of the things down to the wharf—I had the conversation with him between two and three o'clock in the afternoon—he sent the goods to the wharf about seven or eight o'clock the same evening—I did not see the cart and horse, but he told me he had got one—I did not see the goods myself—I saw him down in the neighbourhood of the wharf at Blackwall, and at Popular, between seven and eight o'clock in the evening—he was at the house where the goods were, at about a quarter of a mile from where the horse was put up.

JOHN JORDAN re-examined. I am confident it is my mare—it is a dark bay, eight years old—I had had her six years—I never lent her to the prisoner.

(The prisoner put in a written defence, stating that he did not intend to steal the mare, but to take her back on the Monday—that having formerly resided in London, he had left some goods there, and left home for the purpose of fetching them—on his way he called on his aunt, who was in the prosecutor's employ, and staid till the coaches had left, and wanting to get to town to get his goods on board the Feversham hoy, he took the mare, and stuck a paper on a nail in the stable stating that he had gone to London on her, and should bring her back on the Monday.)


29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-675
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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675. JOHN JONES and JOHN JAMES were indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of February, 1 handkerchief, value 2s., the goods of John Thomas Dallimore, from his person.

JOHN THOMAS DALLIMORE . I live in Goldsmiths'-street, Gough-square. About a quarter past nine o'clock at night, on the 23rd of February, I was in Fleet-street, and just as I got on this side of Fetter-lane, I felt somebody at my pocket—I turned round and saw the two prisoners between two and three yards from me, and missed my pocket-handkerchief—I turned up a court to allow them to pass, which they did—I then followed them down to Anderson's coffee-house—there were two gentleman before them—one prisoner went before the other and put his hand to a gentleman's pocket—I spoke to the gentleman and followed them on, not seeing a watchman—I saw them join two girls of the town—I went across the road, called the watchman, and gave them into custody—they were searched at the station-house, and my handkerchief was found on James—they were both together,

and speaking to one another—they continued together till they met the girls.

Jones. He said nothing about his own handkerchief at the station-house. Witness. I did mention my own handkerchief.

WILLIAM GREIG . I am a watchman of St. Bride's. I took the prisoners in charge for picking the prosecutor's pocket—he did not tell me what he had seen then to do another gentleman—he gave them in my charge for his own robbery—I found the handkerchief in James's bosom about two minutes after I took them.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

Jones. I do not know the other prisoner.

JONES— GUILTY .* Aged 17. JAMES— GUILTY .* Aged 18.

Transported for Seven Years.

Before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-676
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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676. JOSIAH GOODE was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of February, 1 handkerchief, value 3s., the goods of Edward Webster Whistler, from his person.

EDWARD WEBSTER WHISTLER . I am a grocer, and live in Frenchurch-street. On the evening of the 24th of February I was in Cannon-street—I felt something at my pocket, turned round, and saw the prisoner in the act of taking my handkerchief from by pocket—he pulled it entirely out, and ran up the street opposite Abchurch-lane—I secured him without losing sight of him—I am certain he is the boy—I saw him throw my handkerchief down.

GUILTY .* Aged 14.— Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-677
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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677. THOMAS GREEN was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of February, 1 handkerchief, value 3s., the goods of Edward Saunders, from his person; and that he had before been convicted of felony.

EDWARD SAUNDERS . I am a tea-dealer. I was in Cornhill, opposite the Exchange, last Sunday week, about half-past seven o'clock—I had a handkerchief in my coat-pocket—I pinned it there for security—I felt something at my pocket, turned round, and caught the prisoner by the collar with my handkerchief in his hand—he threw it behind him—he had got it quite out.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

THOMAS MENN . I was in Cornhill—I saw the handkerchief drop from the prisoner's hand.

GEORGE BAKER . I am a policeman. I took him into custody.

WILLIAM EVANS . I am an officer. I produce a certificate of the prisoners's former convicition(read.)—I was a witness on his trial—he is the same person.

GUILTY .* Aged 18.— Transported for Fourteen Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-678
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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678. SARAH MARTIN was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of Feburary, 1 shawl, value 7s., the goods of William Abner Vaughan.

WILLIAM DANILLS . I am in the employ of William Abner Vaughan, a linen-draper, in Aldgate. On the 18th of February, about dusk, the prisoner came to the shop, and asked for some persian—she told me to cut her off one-eight of a yard, which I did—she then asked to see some prints, and told me to cut off a yard of one—while I was doing so, a shawl

laid under the prints—she took it, and concealed it under her cloak—I saw her do it, and in about two minutes I took hold of the shawl—I called Mr. Vaughan forwards, and took the shawl from under her cloak—she had not paid for any thing—what she bought came to 1s. 1 1/2d—she was searched, and 1s. 10d. was found on her.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Do you mean to say you took the shawl from her? A. Yes; my master was present—the young man saw me take it from her—there are five persons in the shop, but only two were present at the counter—she could not have taken the shawl to look at—I was looking at her—the counter was between us—there were some holes at the side of her cloak.

WILLIAM ABNER VAUGHAN . I am master of the shop—I was at home—Daniels called me, and I saw the shawl on the counter—I saw him hold it in his hand, as if pulling it from her—she protested her innocence, and begged us not to send for an officer.

Cross-examined. Q. You saw her searched? A. She was not searched in the shop—I did not observe any money produced—I was not aware of the 1s. 10d. being found on her.

HENRY PAINE . I am porter to Mr. Vaughan—I was standing on the opposite side of the shop, and saw Daniels take the shawl from the prisoner, from under her cloak.

Cross-examined. Q. Did she say she had no intention of stealing it? A. Yes—she was not searched in the shop—Daniels did not go out with her and the officer—no money was produced I am certain.

JAMES MARTIN . I am a policeman. I produced the shawl—I took the prisoner to the station-house—she was searched there, and not at Mr. Vaughan's—I found 1s. 11 1/2d. on her.

WILLIAM DANIELS . This is the shawl—the policeman told me she was searched.

Prisoner's Defence. I am innocent of thieving the shawl—when the gentleman gave me into custody, he said he had been served out before by a great many of my sort, and would make me pay for all.

GUILTY. Aged 22.—Recommended to mercy — Confined Three Month.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-679
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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679. GEORGE NOBLE , was indicted for stealing, on the 2nd of February, 2 reams of paper, value 2l. 12s., the goods of William Daniel Gadenne.

JAMES LANCASTER . I am clerk to Wm. Daniel Gadenne, a machine ruler. Thomas Samuel, his servant, was sent out with this paper to deliver to Jones and Brown, in St. Paul's-church-yard.

THOMAS SAMUEL . I am errand-boy to Mr. Gadenne. On the 2nd of Feburary, about a quarter past six o'clock, I was intrusted with two reams of paper—it rained very hard, and the prisoner and another were standing in a door-way—I was walking with the paper on my head—the other one asked me to go for a cab, and said he would give me 1s. when I came back—they were talking together—I said I would go—he lifted the paper off my head while I lifted it off, and I left it with both of them, and went for the cab—the prisoner watched me up the turning—I went about thirty yards, and thought something was wrong, as the prisoner turned back after following me close up the street, and I turned back also, thinking something was wrong—he went over towards the door, and I caught hold of him—I said, "Where is my paper?"—he gave me a shove, and said "I have no paper," and ran away from me through the courts into Basinghall-street—the

other man was gone—the prisoner at last ran up a place which is no thoroughfare, and there he was caught.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Before the Magistrate, did you say the two men were under a door-way or a gate-way? A. A door-way—they talked together, but I did not hear what they said—I said before the Magistrate that they were talking—the other man offered me the shilling to get the cab—the prisoner said nothing—he watched me—the other one took the parcel off my head and put it in the passage—I did not see the prisoner touch it—he said nothing to me—I saw him coming behind me as soon as I got to Aldermanbury—he was with the man before—I went up Aldermanbury—I went half-way up the street, by the side of the church, and he followed me—then he turned round and went back, and I went back with him, and asked him for my paper—he said, he had no paper—he then gave me a shove, ran through the court, and made his escape.

JURY. Q. Did the person say, "Get me," or, "get us a cab?" A. "Get me a cab."

JAMES LOWE . I am evening patrol of St. Michael Bassishaw. I was going my rounds in Basinghall-street, and heard the cry of "Stop him"—I turned round, and heard somebody say "There he goes"—I turned round, and saw the prisoner coming in contact with me—I made a stop to take him, and he ran up Sambrook-court, which is no thoroughfare, and there I secured him.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you not say a little more before the Magistrate? A. Yes, I said, "When I secured him, he said, "I am not the person"—he said so the moment I seized him—the boy came up directly.

THOMAS DALE . I am a constable of Bassishaw Ward. He was given into my custody that evening.

(Thomas Hull, a salesman of Spitalfield's-market, gave the prisoner's good character.)


29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-680
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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680. JOHN CLARKE was indicted for stealing, on the 11th of February, 1 waistcoat, value 5s. 6d.; the goods of Moses Charles Bridmead.

MOSES CHARLES BRIDMEAD . I am a hosier and glover, and live on Holborn-hill. On the 11th of February, about half-past seven o'clock in the evening, I received information from my lad, and went out—seeing the prisoner running, I called "Stop thief," and followed him—two gentlemen came out of Bartlett's-passage into Bartlett's-buildings—I stopped the prisoner, and accused him of robbing me—he denied it—an officer came up, and I gave him in charge—he took him to the station-house—he afterwards produced a waistcoat to me which was mine, and had hung in my shop—I was in the next shop at the time—I have two houses next door to each other.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

GEORGE MORRIS . I am the prosecutor's errand-boy. I saw the prisoner pulling the waistcoat down which hung at the prosecutor's door, and run away with it—I ran, and told master—he followed, and the prisoner was secured—I know him to be the man.

Prisoner. I am sorry for what I have done—I beg for mercy.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Three Months.

OLD COURT,—Tuesday, March 1st, 1836.

Second Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-681
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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681. DEBORAH DAVIS was indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of February, 1 watch, value 4l.; 1 split-ring, value 3d.; 1 seal, value 2s.; and 1 watch-key, value 3d.; the goods of Daird Parry, her master.

DAIRD PARRY . I am a carpenter, and live in Lime-street, City. The prisoner lived four weeks with me as servant—I missed from my kitchen-drawers a silver watch-key and seal—my wife had left the key in the drawer.

JOHN DRAPER . I am beadle of Langbourn Ward. I was sent for—Mrs. Parry had given me information—I searched the prisoner, and found a paper on her with the name of "Mr. Denny, No. 38, Barbican" on it—I asked the prisoner who he was—she at first said he was a friend of hers; but after searching her boxes, I asked her where she went to last night, and then it came out she had been to see a countrywoman of hers at Mr. Denny's—I went there, and saw Margaret Williams, and the silver watch was produced. MARGARET WILLIAMS. The prisoner gave me this watch yesterday week, and said she would call for it at two o'clock the next day—she did not call—the officer came, and I gave it to him.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

WILLIAM HIGGINSON . I am an officer. I was sent for to assist in the recovery of the watch—Draper gave it to me.

GUILTY . Aged 34.— Confined Six Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-682
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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682. THOMAS SULLIVAN and TIMOTHY COCHRAN were indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of February, 1 handkerchief, value 2s., the goods of Thomas Bennet Humphreys, from his person.

EDWARD WOOD . On Wednesday, the 23rd of February, about half-past one o'clock, I was crossing London-bridge, coming into the City—I saw the prisoners walking together, Cochran having his arm on the shoulder of Sullivan—they were talking together very close to the prosecutor—I saw Cochran take hold of the prosecutor's pocket with one hand, and with the other draw his handkerchief—he was in the act of handing it to Sullivan, when the prosecutor turned round and collared him, and the handkerchief dropped on the ground.

THOMAS BENNET HUMPHREYS . On Tuesday, the 23rd of February, I was crossing London-Bridge, and felt a slight pull at my pocket—I turned round, and saw Cochran passing my handkerchief to Sullivan—they dropped it on the ground between them—I seized hold of him immediately—this is my handkerchief, it has my initials on it.

SAMUEL GEORGE BOWLER . I am warden of London-Bridge, and a constable. The prisoners were brought into my custody—I have inquired about them, and find Cochran has neither father nor mother—Sullivan has a father, who has nine childeren.



Confined Three Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-683
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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683. JAMES JOHNSON was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of February, 2 shoes, value 1s. 6d., the goods of John Mason.

JOHN MASON . I am master of the Three Brothers barge, lying at

Duke's-stairs. On the 20th of February, between eleven and twelve o'clock in the day, I was standing on the shore—I saw the prisoner come out of the cabin of the barge—after he came up on the quay, I stopped him—he had a pair of shoes under his arm, which belonged to me—I gave him into custody of the policeman—he had no business in the ship whatever—I had had the shoes in my hands twenty minutes before, and was going to send them on shore by the boy.

JOSHUA JUDGE . I am a Thames police surveyor. I took charge of the prisoner—I asked him where he got the shoes—he said out of the cabin—I said he was an old offender, and I should take him into custody—I believe he was in a state of destitution.

Prisoner. I have followed the life of a seaman forty-five years, and have fought for my country eleven years—I am now unable to work for my living.

GUILTY . Aged 75.— Confined Three Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-684
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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684. WILLIAM SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of February, 6 fowls, value 14s.; the goods of William Barton.

WILLIAM BARTON . I live at Finchley—I had some fowls, and lost six of them, on the 6th of February, from my own place. I did not miss them till the man who took the prisoner brought them to my place—he worked for me about a year and a half ago, and knows as much about my place as I do.

CHARLES DREWELL . I am a carrier. I met the prisoner with the fowls on the road for London, in the night—I stopped him, and asked where he got these fowls from—he said he brought them from North Hall—I told him I would go back to North Hall with them; and on going down the road, he owned to me that he had stolen them from Barton.

JOHN SMITH . I am a Bow-street patrol. The prisoner was brought to my station on Finchley Common, not far from the prosecutor's—these are the fowls which were brought to me alive in this hamper.

Prisoner. I beg for mercy—I did it from distress.

GUILTY . Aged 53.— Confined Six Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-685
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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685. ELLEN DIAMOND was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of February, 1 cloak, value 15s., the goods of Jane Elizabeth Willard.

JANE ELIZABETH WILLARD . I am servant to Mrs. Fletcher, No. 22, Shoemaker-row, Doctors' Commons. I lost a cloak on the 13th of February, out of Mrs. Fletcher's shop—it was worth 15s.—I know nothing of the prisoner, only as being a lodger of Mrs. Fletcher's—she is single—she gets her living by making stocks—Mrs. Fletcher charged her with this, and she said she had pledged it at Whitechapel, and that she destroyed the duplicate—Mrs. Fletcher said it would be better for her to tell.

FREDERICK SMEE . I am assistant to Mr. Fleming, a pawnbroker, No. 105, Whitechapel. On the 13th of February this cloak was pawned by the prisoner—I took it in—I have the counterpart of the duplicate—I never saw the prisoner till the day she came to pawn the cloak—I took particular notice of her when she came—it was pawned for 10s. in the name of Ann Jackson, a lodger, No. 4, Gracechurch-street—I asked if it was her own—she said it was.

Prisoner. You did not write the ticket—the master wrote it. Witness. I wrote it myself.

JANE ELIZABETH WILLARD re-examined. I have no acquaintance with

the prisoner—I had never allowed her to use my cloak—she was constantly employed about her work, and was a decent, respectable person.

SARAH FLETCHER . The prisoner came to my house the latter part of May or beginning of June—she gave me a reference—I asked her about this cloak, and she said she knew nothing of it—I said it would be better for her to tell—she stole two cloaks, and confessed to both—she paid 4s. a week—she owes me 1l. 4s.—she paid weekly—I am a milliner and wholesale cloak-maker—she assisted me in my work occasionally.

Prisoner's Defence (written). Ellen Diamond begs respectfully to state, that having been out of employ three months, she was led by distress to the commission of the crime—she deeply deplores it, and throws herself on the mercy of the Court.

GUILTY. Aged 25.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury .

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-686
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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686. ELLEN DIAMOND was again indicted for stealing, on the 19th of February, 1 spoon, value 3s.; 1 blanket, value 2s. 6d.; 3 sheets, value 6s.; 1 pillow, value 1s. 6d.; and 1 handkerchief, value 3s.; the goods of Sarah Fletcher.

SARAH FLETCHER . I am a widow. These articles were mine. I lost the silver spoon and handkerchief about last August, or September, but I had not the least suspicion that it was the prisoner who took it—I missed from her room three sheets, a blanket, and pillow, but the other things were taken from another room, which she had no business to enter—it was over her apartment—I saw the silk handkerchief there, and had it in my hand.

EBENEZER HENBREY . I am servant to Mr. Bromley, a pawnbroker, in Broadway, Blackfriars. I produce a silver tea-spoon, pledged on the 5th of August last—I cannot say whether it was by the prisoner, but she had repeatedly pledged at our house—it was pledged in the name of Sarah Dawson, which was the name she generally pledged in.

GEORGE KING . I am servant to Mr. Gray, a pawnbroker in Fleet-street. I produce a blanket, pledged by the prisoner on the 19th of February, in the name of Ann Watson; and one sheet on the 16th, in the name of Ann Thompson—I wrote the ticket for the blanket—I am quite certain of her person, I had seen her in the shop before.

JOSEPH LLOYD . I am an officer. I apprehended the prisoner—she was taken from Shoemaker-row to the Compter—she gave me some duplicates, which I have here—here is one for a tea-spoon, pawned for 1s. 6d., in the name of Sarah Dawson, and one on the 19th of February, one blanket for 1s. 6d., at Mr. Gray's, and one shirt, for 1s. 3d., in the name of Jane Thompson, Shoe-lane.

Prisoner. She said if I would tell her where they were, she would forgive me—when I got employment I intended to redeem them.

SARAH FLETCHER re-examined. I told her it would be better for her to tell what became of the property, but she said she knew nothing of them; but afterwards she gave the account to the officer.

GUILTY . Aged 25.— Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-687
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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687. EDWARD DUTTON was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of February, 5 yards of ribbon, value 1s. 6d.; 18 yards of linen cloth, value 1l. 11s.; and 7 handkerchiefs, value 1l. 11s.; the goods of James John Sander and others, his masters.

JAMES JOHN SANDER . I am one of the firm of Sander and Co. There

are three partners—we are linen-drapers—the prisoner was our porter—I did not miss any thing till they were produced by the officer.

WILLIAM TAYLOR . I was a policeman at that time. I was employed to search the prisoner's box at Mr. Sander's house—I opened it with a key which I found on the prisoner—there was a piece of linen and a piece of ribbon in the box, and when I went there were two handkerchiefs on the counter—he gave me two from his pocket on going to Union Hall, and three afterwards.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Are the handkerchiefs of the same pattern? A. No—different. I went to Mr. Sander's house, at the corner of Southampton-building—the box was in the room where the prisoner slept it was looked—I found the key on the prisoner's person—he mentioned about lodging in Wild-street.

JAMES JOHN SANDER . There is a mark on this ribbon which I can identify—we have similar goods to these handkerchiefs, and the same parterns—the marks have been taken off the handkerchiefs, and there is no mark on the linen—the prisoner had access in the things in the shop.

Cross-examined. Q. When did you take stock last? A. About August last—we missed nothting till the officer came—I will not swear to the linen or handkerchiefs—it would be impossible to miss them unless we took stock—this ribbon is on a card with my writing on it—it could not have been sold to him.

COURT. Q. Have you any recollection of selling this portion of ribbon at all? A. No—I am quite sure it was not sold—this lrish has been a whole piece, and is cut by a person not acccustomed to cut linen.

GUILTY. Aged 21.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor .

Confined Six Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-688a
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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688. JAMES HARDING was indicted for stealing, on the 18th of February, two pairs of trowsers, value 2l.; 1 coat value 30s. 11 1/2 years of drugget, value 10s.; the goods of Archibald Shoolbred.

THOMAS SHOWELL . I am a tailor, and live in Bath-street, City-road. On Thursday, the 18th of February, I was in Tower Royal, and saw the prisoner running, and stopped him—persons were running after him—he had a bundle in his possession containning two pair of trowsers and a coat—I handed him over to Bonson.

DAVID BONSON . I am a ward officer of Vintry. I took charge of the prisoner, and took the things from him.

ARCHIBALD SHOOLBRED . I live in Budge-row, Watling-street. These are my property, except the bag—I had left them in the workshop—I know nothing of the prisoner—he was stopped about fifty yards from the shop, but he had run round a tuning.

ISABEL SHOOLBRED . I am the prosecutor's wife. On the morning of the 18th of February, I heard a noise in the workshop—I ran down stations, and called to the person, but got no answer—he ran down stairs, and I went after him into the street—I only saw his back—I followed him, and gave an alarm—I did not see him stopped—our shop is not far from Tower Royal.

Prisoner's Defence. A man threw the things down at my feet—I took them up, and ran after him—they fell in the mud.

GUILTY . Aged 34.— Confined Six Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-689
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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689. GEORGE MARTIN was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of February,1 shirt, value 1s.; 1 pair of trowsers, value 1s. 6d.; the goods of Robert Murray.

RICHARD NANCARROW . I am a Custom-house gate-keeper at St. Katharine's docks. On the 21st of February, between five and half-past five o'clock in the afternoon I stopped the prisoner at the principal entrance gate—I asked what he had got—he made no answer—I put my hand under his jacket, and found a shirt under his arm—Murray came up with the prisoner from the dock, and said it was his shirt—I took the prisoner into the lobby, searched him, and found he had two pair of trowsers on—Murray claimed the pair he had on underneath—he had a small quantity of leaf tobacco in his cap—Murray said he had some similar to that in his chest—the prisoner said it was not Murray's.

ROBERT MURRAY . I am a sailor, belonging to the schooner Messenger. On the 21st, she lay in St. Katharine's-dock—the prisoner came on board, and told me he had been cast away—the captain gave him a day's work, and paid him 2s.6d. for it. On the 21st of February, he asked me to go ashore with him—I was cleaning myself, and I said I should be ready directly—he then told me to make haste—he asked me to go and have a pint of beer at a public-house, and I went—he took a drop, and told me he wanted to go out—he was absent about ten minutes or a quarter of an hour—I then thought he might be gone back to the schooner, and I went as fast as I could—I saw him come over the side of the vessel—I asked him where he had been—he said, to get a shilling which was owing to him—I observed his cap looked bulky, and it was bulky under his jacket—I went after him—the gate-keeper detained him—I took the shirt from under his jacket, and the trowsers and tobacco from him—I had some leaf-tobacco in the chest with my trowsers—I never gave him leave to take them.

Prisoner. He gave me the trowsers on Sunday morning, when he was a bed. Witness. It is not true.

GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined Three Months.

NEW COURT,—Tuesday, March 1st, 1836.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Araibn.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-690
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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690. MARY KELLY was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of February, 1 dead fowl, value 2s. 6d., the property of Henry Howard.

HENRY HOWARD . I keep a shop in Leadenhall-market Last Saturday, 27th of February, between seven and eight o'clock in the morning, I saw the prisoner by my stall—I saw her take a fowl up and put it into her basket—she walked away with it—I followed, and did not lose sight of her. she got between sixty and seventy yards off—I brought her back, searched her basket, and took my fowl out of it, and one of my brother's men found a fowl of his.

Prisoner. I was in distress; my husband had no work all the winter; he was lying on his bed, and had on one to do any thing for him.

GUILTY . Aged 39.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-691
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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691. MARY KELLY was again indicted for stealing, on the 27th of February, 1 dead fowl, value 2s.6d., the property of Ebenezer Howard.

JOHN JACOBS . I am foreman to Mr. Ebenezer Howard; be keeps a fowl-stall in Leadenhall-market, next to Mr. Henry Howard—I went up while he was searching the prisoner's basket, and found my master's fowl in the

basket—we had missed it three or four minutes before—I have no recollection of seeing the prisoner before.

GUILTY . Aged 39.— Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-692
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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692. JULIA SHIP was indicted of stealing, on the 5th of February. 4 blankets, value 16s.; 1 decanter, value 3s.; 2 glass tumblers, value 3s.; 2 table-cloths, value 4s.; 1 table-cover, value 2s.; 2 sheets, value 4s.; 2 pillows, value 3s.; 1 ornament, value 1s. 6d.; 1 set of fire-irons, value 5s.; 1 bolster, value 2s.; 4 pillow-cases, value 5s.; and three wine-glasses, value 1s. 6d.; the goods of Henry Cowbourne.

HANNAH COWBOURNE . I am the wife of Henry Cowbourne, we live in Lower Whitecross-street. I let a ready-furnished lodging to the prisoner twelve months ago on the 1st of February—a person lived with her as her husband—he is a compositor—they had the front room first floor for 7s.; week—the man paid the rent once—she always paid—they passed by the name of Mr. and Mrs. Ship—the man went away on the 4th of February, and I discovered the loss on the 5th—she had lodged there upwards of a year—I did not miss the property till she had left, and I received a letter—I then went into the room that evening, and missed the property stated—I found fourteen pawnbrokers' duplicates in the room in a drawer—on the 6th my husband gave her in charge.

THOMAS PRENTICE . I am in the service of Mr. Dove, a pawnbroker, in Whitecross-street. I have two blankets, a pillow, a sheet, a table-cloth, two glasses, a decanter, and some ornaments—I took in some of them—five of them were pawned by the prisoner; three blankets, two glasses, and the decanter, in the name of Ship—the date of the last pawned by her is the 1st of October.

JOHN NORRIS . I live at Mr. Sowerby's, a pawnbroker, in Chiswell-street—I have a bolster and pillow—I have no recollection of who pawned them.

WILLIAM HENRY ROYGER . I am a pawnbroker, and live at Mr. Matthews', No.104, Whitecross-street—I have a blanket, a set of fire-irone, and sheet—the blanket was pawned by the prisoner in the name of Ship.

DENNIS HUDE . I took the prisoner, and found the duplicates—she told me herself she was not married—I understand the man is gone to France, and left her to shift for herself.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

Prisoner's Defence. They were pledged under the direction of my husband.


29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-693
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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693. JOHN BATES was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of February, 12lbs. of mutton, value 7s., the goods of Henry Lee and another.

WILLIAM NYE . I am in the employ of Henry Charles Lee and another, who keep a butcher's shop in Leadenhall-market. I saw the prisoner, on the 13th of January, walk into the shop and take a haunch of mutton, and walk off with it—he got about twenty yards—I followed and took him with it.

Prisoner. I had been with a young man who had made me very much intoxicated.—I did not know what I took.

Witness. He pretended to he drunk, but when he got to the watch-house he was quite sober.

GUILTY . Aged 36.— Confined Three Months.

NEW COURT, Wednesday, March the 2nd, 1836. Fifth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-694
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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694. CORNELIUS FOLEY was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of February, 1 handkerchief, value 1s., the goods of Thomas John Cooper.

THOMAS JOHN COOPER . I am an apprentice to Mr. Clark, a dentist. On the 22nd of February, at a little after nine o'clock at night, I was going along Oxford-street—I received information, and missed my pocket-handkerchief—one of the officers produced it to me—this is it.

JAMES KENNERLEY (police-constable C 30.) I was on duty in High-street, St. Giles. I saw the prisoner, and watched him into Oxford-street—I saw him put his hand into a gentleman's pocket, but he took nothing from there—I still followed him—he went after Mr. Cooper, who was walking with two gentlemen—he took his handkerchief from his pocket—I told Mr. Cooper, and my brother officer took the prisoner.

JAMES FOWLER (police-constable C115.) I was with Kennerley—I did not see the prisoner take the handkerchief, but I saw him run away—he threw down the handkerchief, and I took him.

Prisoner's Defence. I am quite innocent. I am a hard-working boy, as you may see by my hands.

GUILTY . Aged 13.— Transported for Seven Years.

Before Mr. Justice Park.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-695
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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695. JOHN SMITH was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Martin, about the hour of three, in the night of the 21st of November, at Hammersmith, with intent to steal, and stealing therin 2 Sovereigns, 2 half-sovereigns, and 2 £5 Bank-notes, his property.

WILLIAM MARTIN . I keep the Duke of Sussex public-house at Hammersmith; I am master of that house. I know the prisoner very well by sight—he came to my house on the 21st of November, between five and six o'clock—he had a lodging there—he went to bed about nine o'clock—no one was in the room with him—I went to bed between twelve and one o'clock, and was the last person up in the house—I am sure I shut it up—I saw Mrs. Martin take the till up—all the doors were locked—our bed-room door was fastened, but not locked—I remember my wife's sister coming up to that room between six and seven o'clock the next morning—it was dark—she came and alarmed me—I had two £5 banknotes, two sovereigns, two half-sovereigns, and some silver, in my till the night before—I missed it in the morning—in consequence of something that happened last week, I came to Newgate, where I saw a number of prisoneres together—amongst them I discovered the prisoner—I am sure he is the man who came to sleep at my house that night, I am positive of it.

ELEANOR WARING . I am sister-in-law of the prosecutor. I remember the prisoner sleeping at his house—when he was going up to bed I gave him a candlestick—when I came down in the morning I observed his door open—I went in and found he was gone, and the candle in another room—there was no communication between his room and the other—it was in a second room that I found the till—I went up to my brother and gave the alarm—I found the side door on the latch, that opened to the street—these was a chest of drawers in the room—we found two drawers broken open, and several things thrown out, but nothing taken—there were no other lodgers in the house at the time—the family consisted of

me and my sister and brother-in-law, two children and the maid-servant—the till is a little drawer from a desk.

COURT to WILLIAM MARTIN. Q. Where was the till taken to that night? A. To my bed-room—that and the candlestick were found in another room—he was to have given 1s. 6d. for his lodging. Prisoner. I am innocent of it—I never was there, and know nothing of it.

GEORGE SIMS . I was at Mr. Martin's house on the evening in question—I was at the bar when the prisoner came in and asked for a lodging—I am quite sure that he was the man—I went into the coffee-room and saw him there—I came to Newgate and pointed him out among fifty more prisoners.

ANTHONY BROOKS . I was taking a glass of grog in the coffee-room when the prisoner came in—this is the man I saw for about an hour there GUILTY of stealing to the value of 5l. and upwards, but not burglariously Transported for Life.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-696
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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696. MARY BEDDING was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John Johnson, about the hour of nine in the night of the 13th of February, at All Saints, Poplar, with intent to steal and stealing therein 1 jacket, value 6d.; and 73lbs. of pork, value 1l. 17s. his goods.

JOHN JOHNSON . I am a carpenter, and live in Grundy-street, in the parish of All Saints, Poplar. I had purchased a pig at Leadenhall-market on the 13th of February—I paid a man to take it to my house, and put in on the table in the front room on the ground floor—I stopped at home for two hours, and had occassion to go to town to meet my daughter between nine and ten o'clock at night—my two sons went with me—I have no wife living—I shut the door—it has a spring lock—that is the way we generally leave it—it has no key—it may be opened by pushing hard against it with the knee—the window and outside shutter was shut—I returned about ten o'clock—I found the door as had I left it—we missed the pig off the table, and my jacket—we could not tell how they got in—we found the house as we left it—next evening about seven o'clock I went out from my house across the way, and about two hundred yards up the street I met the policeman—while we were talking the prisoner's brother Ferguson came up—he had some pork wrapped up in a towel—I think three or four joints—the pork that was on my table was entire, not separated at all—I could not swear to it when it was cut up—there was no one with Ferguson—I gave him in charge—I then went to the house, and met the prisoner and another woman coming after the man we had seized—they were about two hundred yards from him—I saw the jacket again before the Magistrate—the prisoner has been in the habit of coming to my house—my daughter had employed her to come and assist in cutting out shirts and making garments for about five or six months; in fact, two or three years when my wife was alive—when I saw the prisoner coming with the pork, I told her I thought they had had plenty of trouble with the pork, she had better drop it—the women had each of them got some pork—she began to beg my pardon, and a great deal of it—I told here we had taken one, who was gone to the watch-house, and the thing was gone into the hands of the police, and must go forward—she then began to exclaim about her children—she said she had left her two children at home, and she wished to go there—the policeman said there was no objection, and we went to the

house—she went to the station-house that night—the other woman and the man were discharged by the Magistrates at Worship-street.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. You left the house on the evening in question accompanied by your two sons? A. Yes—I have other children—I went to meet them—I have three rooms in my house—all my sons live at home but one—I left the pork in the front room—while I was talking Ferguson came up—he had about half the pig, and the women the rest—the prisoner begged pardon—when I met her I said, "You have had plenty of trouble, you had better drop it"—she said it was my pork—I called the policeman and gave them in charge—she begged my pardon after I claimed the pork—neither of my sons are here—the jacket had been lying on the pig at the time, my son put it there—I saw it there.

COURT. Q. Did she say any thing to you about the jacket? A. She did to the policeman in the station-house—we asked where the jacket was, and the flare of the pig—she said the flare was in a pail, and the jacket upstairs in her house, and I found it so.

THOMAS SQUIRES (police-constable K 282.) After I took the man to the station-house, I went to the prisoner's house, and saw her—I heard her begging Mr. Johnson to forgive her—I took her to the station-house—Daniel Ferguson is her brother—he said he bought the pork from her—she made some remark, I believe it was, "I know you did"—I asked her what she had done with the jacket—she said, it was at her house, up-stairs in the bedroom—I went there and found it—this is it—I found the flare of the pig in the kitchen, in the same house.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you not hear her say that some person had brought this pork to her house, for her to sell? A. Yes—she said it was brought by a man who had bought a lot, and that she had sold some portion of it to her brother.

COURT. Q. Did you ask who the man was? A. She said she could not tell, and added, it was a man of a family, that she did not like to bring him into it.

JOHN JOHNSON . This is my jacket. Cross-examined. Q. You have known this woman some years? A. Yes—she has not passed evenings with me lately—I have sent for her when I have had shirts to cut out—she has not passed more than one or two evenings with me, I think—we never had an angry word—I never had a quarrel with her—I never asked her to do any thing that she refused to comply with—I never made any proposition to her—she never played at cards with me but once—she has with my daughter.

COURT. Q. You declare upon your oath you never have solicited her to have any criminal connection with you? A. I never did.

MARTIN COPELAND (Police-constable K 172.) When I came up the prosecutor had the two women in hand—the prisoner said she was aware it was his pork, but she hoped for the sake of her family, he would look over it—Mr. Johnson asked her afterwards where the jacket was—she said it was up stairs—he said there was another person taken into custody—she said, "Yes, he is my brother, he is innocent of it," and that she had led him into it.

Cross-examined. Q. When she said she was aware it was Johnson's pork, she was in custody? A. Yes, and Mr. Johnson had claimed the pork.

Prisoner's Defence. I did not know the pork was his.

COURT to JOHN JOHNSON. Q. This poor woman was in the habit of coming to your house in your wife's time, and to give your little girl assistance? A. Yes, I believe she has come and let herself into my my house, but I never saw her do so. (Mr. Murphey, carpenter, Stratford; and John Smith, corn-dealer, at Bow, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY of stealing only. Aged 22.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury and Prosecutor.— Confined Three Months.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-697
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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697. THOMAS WALKER was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of February, 44lbs. of printed paper, value 11s.; the goods of John Cunningham and another, his master and mistress.

MR. MAHON conducted the prosecution. JOHN CUNNINGHAM. I am a printer, and live in Fleet-street, and am in partnership with Elizabeth Salmon. The prisoner was in our employment for about nine months—he came as a reading-boy—and then we took him as an apprentice—he had 7s. per week—and then I was induced to extend it to 10s.—during the last month I had some sheets of "Elson's practical Builder's price-book"—they were in the warehouse, which is kept locked—but two persons have access to it, and they put key in a secret place—the prisoner had no right to it—Mr. Sadler, of Fleet-street, a cheesemonger, called on me on Friday last, in consequence of which I went to his place, and there I found 44lbs. of printed paper—it had not my name—it was printed by me—it was part of Elson's work—this is it—I cannot tell the value of it—it cost a great deal, but the work was not finished—if I had to replace it, it would cost 40l. or 50l.

BENJAMIN SADLER . My father is a cheesemonger, living in Fleet-street. We buy paper—I saw the prisoner at out shop on Thursday the 25th of February—he had called five or six times before—he brought this paper for waste paper—we paid 3d. per pound for it—I am positive it was the prisoner.

Prisoner. I beg my master's mercy, and the mercy of the Court—it is my first offence.

(Maria Goodman and Maria Hopwood gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY. Aged 19.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury and prosecutor.— Confined Six Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-698
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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698. RADYGUN SKINNER was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of February, 5 sovereigns, the monies of John Stephenson, her master, in his dwelling-house.

JOHN STEPHENSON . I live Bayham-street, and am a bleacher of linen. My wife is a laundress—the prisoner had been my servant for five weeks—we went to the play on Saturday night, the 13th of February—I had eighty sovereigns in the house—I went into the parlour, and secreted them in a bag in the fire place, and covered it with the ashes—I left the prisoner at home—I returned from the play, and found the room door quite safely locked as I had left it—I then had my supper, and went to bed—the next morning my wife went to the cinders, and came and said something to me at near twelve o'clock on Sunday—I missed five sovereigns—I spoke to the prisoner she denied all knowledge of it—I told her I missed five

sovereigns, and told her I would forgive her if she gave them up—I did not see them found.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Are you sure you are the person who put these sovereigns into the ashes? A. Yes; but my wife got them out—I cannot say what amount of sovereigns there was when my wife took the bag out of the ashes—the door of the room was always locked, and I had the key—the door presented the usual appearance—I gave my wife the key the next morning—she was the first person who went into the room after the sovereigns were put there.

COURT. Q. At what time did you find they were gone? A. Between eleven and twelve o'clock—my wife got up about nine o'clock—I gave her the key then—I did not know that any money was missing, until between eleven and twelve o'clock.

ELIZA STEPPEN . I am the wife of a police-sergeant. The prisoner was brought to the station-house last Sunday week, for robbing her master of five sovereigns—she denied it—I felt her cheek, and insisted upon her opening her mouth—she then, with very great reluctance, put five sovereigns, screwed up in a piece of paper, into my hand, saying, that as she had given up the sovereigns, her master would forgive her.

THOMAS OVERINGTON . I am a police-constable. The sovereigns were given into my care—the prisoner said she found them among the cinders.

Prisoner.—I found them among the cinders, when I cleaned the room in the morning.

(James Youngman, a tailor, of Drury-lane; and Mary Ann Mead; gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY of Stealing, but not in as dwelling-house—Recommended to mercy by the prosecutor .—Aged 16. Confined Six Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-699
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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699. ELIZA TAYLOR was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of January, 4 shirts, value 2l. 10s.; 24 collars, value 10s.; 10 handkerchiefs, value 5s.; 11 caps, value 5s.; 2 gowns, value 7s.; 5 habit-shirts, value 5s.; 12 yards of net, value 5s.; 1 pair of stockings, value 1s.; and 2 petticoats, value 6d.; the goods of Thomas Frederick Maris.

ELIZA MARIS . I am the wife of Thomas Frederick Maris, a pork-butcher, in Shoreditch. The prisoner solicited washing, ironing, and mangling from us—my servant, in my presence, gave her a bundle containing the articles stated, on the 27th of January, to iron—she ought to have returned them on the Saturday evening—I did not see her again till she was at Worship-street a fortnight afterwards—her brother was taken first.

JAMES TILT . I am an officer of Worship-street. On Friday, February the 5th, the prisoner came to the office, and asked if there had been a boy committed on the wednesday previous, as she wished particularly to know—I told her to wait, and I would look at the book and examine—I did so, and found it was a boy committed to the House of Correction, for illegally pawning a gown—thought that the prisoner was the sister of that boy whom the officers had been told to look after—I then took her, and placed her at the bar—she said, "He is my brother; I am come to pay the money"—I searched her, and found a shirt, two collars, and various other things, which have been identified by the prosecutor—they were in a bundle who she had at that time.

ELIZA MARIS re-examined. This old shirt and the four caps are mine, and some other things are part of what I gave her to iron—she did not return one thing—I knew her about a month before she was taken.

MARY SMITH . I am servant to the prosecutor, and gave all the articles stated to the prisoner to iron—the shirts and other things to mangle—I gave them to her on Monday, and she was to return them on Saturday; but she did not—I did not see her again till she was in custody.

MARY ANN, MARIA PILGRIM . I found some duplicates in the ashes, at No. 16, James-street—the prisoner lived there—I took them to my aunt.

WILLIAM BOLTWOOD . I am shopman to Mr. Cotton, a pawnbroker, in Shoreditch. I have a shirt which I took in of the prisoner for 5s., and some other things which I did not take in, but the duplicates were produced to us.

WILLIAM LUFF . I am a pawnbroker, and live at No. 110, Shoreditch. I have a shirt and eighteen collars, which were pawned by the prisoner.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

Prisoner's Defence. I had not half the things I am accused of—what I pledged were rags—I had not the least intention of keeping them, but meant to get them out again.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Six Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-700
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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700. CHARLES MAYHEW was indicted for stealing, on the 7th of February, 7lbs. weight of mutton, value 2s. 8d.; 1lb. weight of butter value 1s.; 2 loaves of bread, value 3 1/2 d.; 1lb. weight of cheese, value 7d.; and 1lb. weight of dripping, value 5d.; the goods of Edward Peasland.

WILLIAM BARNETT . I am a police-constable. On the 7th of February, between five and six o'clock, in the morning I saw the prisoner going up Arlington-street, Hampstead-road—he was with a person of the name of Jones—the prisoner was carrying a basket under his arm—I wantched them down towards Wellington-street, which is a quarter of a mile from there—that is where the prosecutor lives—I saw them coming back at half-part six o'clock—the prisoner was carrying a basket on his shoulder on the dark side of the road—I went and asked him what he had got—he said meat, and that he was employed to carry it—I said, "I saw you go up the road an hour ago, with the basket empty"—he said, "No, you did not, it was full then"—I took him into custody—I know the basket was empty when I first saw him—I then found the prosecutor, and shewed the articles to him.

EDWARD PEASLAND . I live in Wellington-street, Camden-town. On the Sunday evening I saw the basket at the station-house—it contained my property—I saw it last at eleven o'clock on Saturday evening, in the safe in the area, which is between nine and ten feet from the street—there are no steps—there were 7lbs. of mutton, 1lb. of butter, 2 loaves, 1lb. of cheese, and 1lb, of dripping—I can swear it was mine, and I missed it on Sunday morning at half-past seven o'clock—the safe was not locked—I never saw the prisoner before.

GUILTY . Aged 25.— Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-701
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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701. RICHARD BISGROVE was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of February, 1 vice, value 15s., the goods of Charles Millenger.

JEREMIAH LEONARD . I am in the employ of Mr. Charles Millenger, a cotton and wood manufacturer, in Swan-court, Bethnal-green. The prisoner worked there at the machine—on the 6th of February I missed this vice from the yard.

THOMAS CAPPS . I am a pawnbroker. I produce this vice which I

took in of the prisoner, in company with his sister, in the name of John Bisgrove—he said he pledged it for his father.

CHARLES EAST . I am a policeman. I was sent for on the 13th of February to the prosecutor, he gave the prisoner to me—he said he had done it for want, and had torn up the duplicate.

JOHN DANIEL GAY . I live next door to the prosecutor. The prisoner came to my house on the 6th of February, and asked for a piece of wood that was thrown into my yard—I looked, and said, "There is no wood there"—he said, "No, it is an iron vice, which was thrown over the place, and master would be glad if you would let him have it"—he went and got it to the foot of the stairs, but could not get it up out of the cellar—I brought it up for him, and put it on his shoulder, at the door, and said, if the boys threw it there again, he should not have it.

GUILTY. Aged 15.—Recommended to mercy by the prosecutor .

Confined Seven Days.

OLD COURT, Wednesday and Thursday, March the 2nd and 3rd, 1836.

Third Jury, before Mr. Baron Gurney.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-702
VerdictsGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown; Guilty > with recommendation; Guilty > with recommendation

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702. WILLIAM JORDAN, alias John Leary , and THOMAS SULLIVAN were indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of our Lord the King, on the 27th of November, 1834, at St. Dunstan in the East, London, and stealing therein 70 sovereigns, 10 half-sovereigns 2 crowns, 4 half-crowns, and 29 shillings, 4 £300, 1 £200, 8 £100, 10 £50, 2 £40, 5£30, 53 £10, 15 £20, and 28 £5 Bank-notes the property and monies of our Lord the King; and 5 sovereigns, 1 £10, and 1 £5; Bank-notes the property and monies of Frederick Thomas Walsh: and 4 £100 Bank-notes, the property of William Billings: and HENRY MOTT and THOMAS SEALE were indicted for that they, before the said felony was committed, on the said 27th of November, feloniously and maliciously did incite, move, procure, counsel, hire, and command the said William Jordan and Thomas Sullivan, to do and commit the felony aforesaid.—2 other sets of COUNTS, in the first of which the principals are charged with breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Elizabeth King Kelly; and in the last, the counting-house of our Lord the King; and the other parties are charged as above.


FREDERICK THOMAS WALSH . I am Receiver of fines and forfeitures in his Majesty's customs, and was so on the 27th of November, 1834. I do my business in the Custom-house—there is an outer office, called the receiver of fines office, and I have an inner room to myself—this plan of the place (looking at one) appears to be tolerably correct—the entrance from Thames-street and other place are accurately described—in November 1834, there was a considerable sale of property at the custom-house—the produce of the sale would come into my hands as receiver of fines—a few months before that, there had been another sale, upon which the amount was considerably less, which would leave a less sum in my hands—on the 27th of november, 1834, the amount of money in my hands was 4292l. 11s. 9 1/4d. belonging to the Crown, and about 20l. I think of my own, and Mr. Billings had given me 400l. to take care of for him—that was all in the chest on the night of the 27th of November—the property was principally in Bank-notes—on the morning of the 27th I had sent a great

quantity of gold to the Bank, and received bank notes for it—there were two of £300 notes belonging to the Crown, and one in particular, which I remember besides those—I have a list of all the notes here—I made the balance myself—another person entered the figures—I counted the notes over at the time—there were four of £300, one of £200, eight of £100, ten of £50, two of £40, five of £30, fifteen of £20, fifty-three of £10, twenty-eight of £5, and 70l. in gold, and cash 7l. 9s. 1 3/4d.—that might be silver and copper—there was more money belonging to the King, about £200 in notes, 94l. 10s. 6d., 30l. 12s. 1d., and 180l., and 10l.—that makes up the sum I first mentioned—there was a £10 and £5 note among my 20l., and Mr. Billings' money was four £100 Bank-notes—this money was put into the King's chest, which is in my own private office, in the inner room—it was secured by two padlocks, and there was another lock to it—the key of that lock was out of order—it is called the stop-lock—the keys of the two padlocks were kept, one in my custody, and the other by the Accountant of petty receipts—the chest could not be properly opened without the concurrence of us two—I occasionally kept my key about my own person, and occasionally locked up in a drawer in my office—my office is private, and separate from all other business of the Custom-house—no body should come there except my two clerks, and the Accountant of petty receipts—when persons come on business, they come from a door facing me—there is not any separation between me and them—the door communicates between the inner and outer office—persons who buy goods at the Custom-house sales, come to me to deliver their tickets and pay money—they come into the inner office—I was at the office on the 27th of November, 1834, till about twenty minutes to four o'clock, as near as I can recollect—I left the money all safe in the chest, and the chest locked—I left my own key in the drawer, where I usually put it, when it was not about my person—I went to the office next morning at a few minutes after ten o'clock—(I was not the last person in the office that night)—when I came in the morning there was a rumour or clamour about what had happened—when I entered my office I found two persons present—I found the Accountant of petty receipts padlock to the chest was violently broken—my own was locked, and the key in my drawer—the drawer was broken open—it had been forced open—all the notes I have mentioned, and the money, were gone—I had some private bonds which were left—they were foreign securities—they remained there—they must have been touched—the cash-box was of considerable weight—there were three cash-boxes—the money belonging to the Crown was in one cash-box—Mr. Billing's money was in a private cash-box, and my own also—they were all gone.

Q. When you had the cash, and had not changed it for Bank-notes, was the cash-box of considerable weight? A. Yes—I had changed about 700l. of gold for notes.

Q. When the money was in the cash-box, and in its proper place, could you move it with one hand or two? A. Very likely I moved it with two; if I had occasion to life it out of the chest, I think I must have used two hands—the prisoner Mott was a clerk in the King's warehouse—I do not know Seale—I had a book in my office, in which I enter the notes I receive from persons who came to pay for lots sold—I enter the name of the person paying money, his address, the amount he paid, and the manner in which he paid it—not the number of the notes, but whether in notes or cash—I am not certain whether I left that book on my desk, or in the cupboard on the night of the 27th—when I came in the morning, I looked at the book, and all the leaves that were written upon were torn out—I do not particularly remember any

person coming and paying me money shortly before the robbery—at that time there were a great many persons paying, as it was near prompt day—there is a day fixed at which the lots must be paid for—the sale was on November 11th, 12th, 13th, and 14th—the prompt day was the 28th of November—they were obliged to pay on or before the 28th, or the deposit would have been forfeited—I am not quite sure whether Mr. Billings was our auctioneer on the occasion—I am not aware of any regulations prohibiting any clerk or person employed there, from buying at sales, but there may be—this 50l. note (looking at one) has my own hand-writing on it—I have wirtten on it "329-57"—that means lot 329-57th sale—there is written on it "John Leary, East-street, Kent-road"—and there is the same signature on the back—I do not remember whether that was on it when it came into my hands, or whether it was written in my presence—that note was paid me for lot 329, which was a lot of rum—the lot amounted only to 11l. I believe—I should have to give change for the note, (looking at a catalogue), T.C. Jones bought that lot—I do not know in what name it was cleared, as the book is destroyed, by the leaves being taken out in which it was entered—I believe these three 300l. notes to be part of the property stolen that night (looking at them)—I know them by the date and number—I have not any memorandums of my own of what the numbers were—there is nothing of mine written on the notes—I do not see any memorandum of mine on this 10l. note—my office is in the parish of St. Dunstan-in-the-East—the warehouse is part of the Custom-house—Miss Kelly, the housekeeper, lived in the Custom-house—she lived and slept there as servant of the Custom-house—you can go from my office to any part of the Custom-house at all times within office hours—it is part of the Custom-house.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS. Q. Was Miss Kelly housekeeper of the whole building at that time? A. Yes; she is since dead—her apartment was in the eastern wing, a considerable distance from my office—there is an internal communication from her chambers to the rest of the Custom-house—my office is in the centre of the building, towards the Thames side—I could get to Miss Kelly's apartments without going out of the Custom-house—I do not live there—my hours of attendance are from ten o'clock till four—there is a paper kept for the clerks attending daily, to inscribe their appearance upon—on the 27th of November, I think I left at twenty minutes before four o'clock, having made up my balance, I left earlier than usual—I left others in the office—I did not take the key of the chest with me, as I thought it would be more secure in the King's warehouse, and had constantly left it there before—I left my two clerks, Wood and Cooper, in the office—they would have nothing to do with the chest after I left—the Accountant of petty receipts, or his clerks, would have the other key of the chest—he had left the private office before I left—the list of the contents of the chest I have read was made about half-past three o'clock that very day—the Accountant of petty receipts was with me at the time—I read over the list in his presence, and can swear the notes and money were in the chest at that time—I saw that gentleman again on the following morning—I arrived there a few minutes after ten o'clock, and immediately learnt what had occurred from the two persons in my office—there is a book in which I enter the description buyers at the sale give of themselves—I have that book here—the entry of the proceeds of the sale I have not here, as the leaves were torn out—that was the first memorandum of any payment made.

COURT. Q. Is it the deposit or purchase money? A. The deposit

was made at the time of the sale—the book the leaves are torn from is called the receiving-book—that contains the entry of the completion of the purchases after the sale—that book was kept by myself.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Are you sure as to the parish your office is situated in? A. I have seen a plan of the building—I am not positive—I hear the Custom-house is in two parishes.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Can you tell whose business it is to keep the keys of the outer doors of the Custom-house? A. I do not know officially—the money belonging to the Crown had been accumulating for same weeks, and some part of it for months—change had been given out of the money received, but not to any extent—I cannot say to what amount positively; but none of the large notes had been changed—I had been in the receipt and payment on money while this was accumulating—I had received some thousands probably within the time this had been accumulating—by looking over my cash book, I could tell the payments.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Whatever receipts or payments you made, were the bank-notes you have described locked up in your cheat on the night in question? A. Yes; they were.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Are you able to speak with accuracy as to the that of the warehouse over which you have the superintendance, being under the same roof as Miss Kelly resided? A. Yes; I can get to it without going into the open air—the doors and passages are open when the offices are.

MR. ADOLPHUS Q. Is there any outer door to your inner office? A. Yes; that was not at all damaged—on the morning of the 28th of November, there were no marks of violence on it—the closet in which the cheat was was, burst open—a person named Beaston is a clerk in the Accountant of petty receipt's office—he was in the office on the 27th of November, but not at the time I left it—he left before me, as far as I am recollect.

COURT. Q. Where was the key of the closet in which the chest was? A. In my drawer, with the key of the chest, and I had the key of the drawer with me—I found that drawer had been forced open.

JACOB WRAY . I am an inhabitant of the parish of St. Dunstan-in-the-East. I have been church warden and overseer—that part of the warehouse where Mr. Walsh transacts his business is situated in our parish.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS. Q. How do you know that? A. I have lived in the parish all my life—I only know it by living in the parish—the parish boundary crosses in the centre of the Custom-house—I have walked the boundaries for many years—I have not walked through the Custom-house, we go round it—that which we walk round we take to be in our parish—I served the office of churchwarden before the new Custom-house was built—the old house did not stand where the present one does—I know the King's warehouse in the new building, is in St. Dunstan's parish, by going the bounds, and many other circumstances I have been there many times—no part of the old building was in our parish—I have not done anything as churchwarden since the new building has been erected.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Do you happen to know that the whole of the Custom-house is in the parish of St. Dunstan-in-the-East. A. No; it is not—not the whole of it—it in St. Mary-at-Hill and our parish—when I walked the bounds I walked the bounds of the old Custom-house—there is a very small portion of the house stands is St. Mary-at-Hill it is the western end—there is a boundary mark cut in the

stone in the front of the Quay, and painted also in the south front of the house.

COURT. Q. I presume some warehouses stood on the spot on which the Custom-house now stands? A. Yes—those warehouses were in our parish, and paid rates to it—the spot the present King's warehouse is on is in our parish—I have received poor-rates from the houses and warehouses.

JOHN BEASTON . I am in the employment of the Custom-house. On the 27th of November, 1834, I was assisting in the office of the Receiver of Fines—I checked with Mr. Walsh the account of money, the produce of a sale which had been held before in the Custome-house—I did so about half-past three o'clock, or rather sooner—I ascertained that the balance was correct—the money was placed in the King's chest—I left the office about twenty minutes before four o'clock, leaving Mr. Walsh and his clerks (Wood and Cooper) there—I fastened the Comptroller's padlock on the iron chest, and took the key up-stair, and deposited it in the place where it was usually kept—I am clerk to the Comptroller of fines and forfeitures—I have every reason to believe this is the Comptroller's lock (looking at a padlock)—this is the key—I arrived at the Custom-house about five minutes before ten o'clock next morning—I applied for the key of the Comptroller's padlock where I had left it the night before, and obtained it—I went to the Receiver's office, and found a servant girl there—it was one or two minutes before ten o'clock—no other clerk or any person of the establishment was there when I arrived—I did not look at the state of the Comptroller's padlock immediately—I could not do it as the cupboard door was closed—when one of the clerks arrived, (about five minutes past ten o'clock,) I went to the cupboard—I found the cupboard door unlocked, the lock having been forced off it, and the door open—I found the Receiver's padlock on the chest, locked, the Comptroller's padlock had been forced off, and laid down by the side of the chest—I afterwards saw Mr. Walsh apply the key to that padlock, and it opened it.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS. Q. When you sit in the Receiver's office, the closet is out of sight? A. I sat in the inner office—I can see the closet from the Receiver's office—the inner office and the Receiver's office are not separated—there is a partition between the inner and outer office, but they are both the Receiver's—a doorleads from one to the other—the closet is in the inner office, and the chest is in the closet—a man in some parts of the outer office could see the chest—a person would go to the inner office to pay for a purchase at the sale.

SAMUEL STERCK . In November 1834, I was employed in the Custom-house as an extra tide-waiter. It was my business to attend to the fires in the King's cellar and warehouse—when the clerks left the office, it was my duty to go into the office and put out the fires—I recollect going into Mr. Walsh's office on the night of the robbery—I saw the clerks leave the office—there is a door which opens from Mr. Walsh's office into the lobby—that door is closed when the clerks leave the office—it is fastened by a spring lock—that door was closed on the afternoon of the robbery, after the clerks left, but not fastened—I closed it myself—after closing that door, I went to fasten the door leading into the lobby, on the north side, after the clerks were out of the office.

Q. Was there time, while you were fastening that opposite door, for any person to have got into the door you had just latched too? A. Yes; plenty—my back was turned to that way, anybody could come in without my seeing them—I locked the door on the south side with the big key, and

took it to Mr. Billing's house, No.7, Albion Mills, by Blackfriars-bridge—I went on the following morning to the Custom-house—I got the key from Mr. Billing's—I was there at half-past eight o'clock as near as possible, and at the Custom-house at nine o'clock—I opened the south-side door which I had fastened—I found every thing apparently as I had left in the night before the door from Mr. Walsh's office into the passage was closed the same as it was over night.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS. Q. Mr. Walsh's door shuts by a spring, so that it shuts by itself? A. Yes, it will—I go to put out all the fires two or three minutes after the clerks leave—all the clerks leave about four o'clock—there are a great many persons going out at the same time—sometimes so many as to creat a confusion, so that I do not observe persons very narrowly—it is according to the press of business—I went to put out the fires on the 27th, about ten minutes before four o'clock—I think Wood and Cooper were there.

SAMUEL WOOD . I am clerk to Mr. Walsh, the Receiver of the fines and forfeitures of the Custom-house. In October 1834, I received a cheque from the Receiver-general of the Excise, which I carried to the Bank of England, and received and deposited with the Receiver of fines—this £300 note, No.7988, dated 4th October, 1834, is one I received from the Bank of England—I merely know it by the account given to me by the Bank clerk—I received three notes of 300l. each—I placed them in the hands of Mr. Walsh—I did not take the numbers of any of the notes—I only received one of these three notes.

COURT. Q. What cheque was it you went to the Bank with? A. 2974l. 15s., drawn by the Receiver General of the Excise.

WILLIAM COOPER . I am a clerk to the Receiver of fines at the Custom-house. I took about 700l. in gold to the Bank of England in November, and received for it 620l. in notes—these appear to be the notes I received—(looking at some) I know them by numbers—I took an account of the numbers the day after the robbery.

COURT. Q. Did you take it before they were stolen? A. No, I had them given to me from the Bank.

JOSIAH FIELD . I am a clerk in the bank of England, in the Bank-note pay-office. Two of these £300 bank notes I know—No.2309, dated the 14th of November; and No.2310, dated the 14th of November, 1834—they were paid out on the 27th of November—they were part of the same payment paid for a teller's ticket, amounting to 620l.—it was ticket which a teller would give if a person had given him cash for it—a person wanting to exchange cash for notes, goes to the teller, gives him the money, and he gives him a ticket, which he brings to me, and I give notes for it—I do not know anything of the other note—I have no recollection of the person to whom I gave the £300 notes—I produce the teller's ticket.

WILLIAM COOPER . re-examined. I believe Mr. Field to be the gentleman I received the notes from—I should say this is the Teller's ticket I received when I paid the sovereigns—I took the gold to the Teller's office, and received a Teller's ticket, which I took and received the notes for it.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Do you know anything about the identity of the ticket at all? A. I should say it was the ticket I received—I remember the name of "Little Hales" being put on it—that is partly torn off now.

JOSIAH FIELD re-examined. Little Hales is a teller—he would very likely sign many tickets that day, but not all of them.

WILLIAM HARY . I was appointed a land-waiter of the Customs about

September, 1827—my father was a Collector of customs at Drogheda, in Ireland—I became acquainted with seal after being a landing-waiter at the customs, in London—he was a landing-waiter and searcher in the customs like myself—I was intimate with him—I had some difference with him, which was made up some years afterwards—about June, 1834, when I became very intimate with him again—he made some proposal to me shortly after we renewed our acquaintance—he mentioned to me that he had it in contemplation to rob the Custom-house—we were stationed together at the London-dock at that time—I used to go with him to public-houses constantly out of business-hours—to the Duke of Sussex, at Peckham, frequently; and to the Royal-Mortar, in the London-road—I frequently met him at the Castle, Old Kent-road—I was once or twice at the Three Kingdoms public-house with him—at the time he mentioned this to me, at the London-dock, he asked me if I would accompany him to the Three Kingdoms, which is in Harp-lane, opposite the Custom-house, to see a friend of his, named Mott—I went with him at the time to the Three Kingdoms, and Seale sent to the King's warehouse for Mott—I had not known Mott before to speak to him—I knew him by sight—he came over immediately—Seale introduced the subject to him of robbing the Custom-house, and mentioned the office of the Receiver of Fines and Fortfeits—Mott answered him by saying, that the King's sale, which was then coming off, would be but a small one, and he thought it more prudent to defer such a thing to the next sale, which would be larger one—Seale acquiesced in that—I went to Ireland about the beginning of the August, 1834—I frequently mentioned the subject with Seale and Mott before I went—I frequently met them at the Duke of Sussex—the first time I saw the prisoners Jordan and Sullivan was, I think, in June, 1834, at the Royal Mortar, in the London-road—I became acquainted with them by meeting them in company there—I have gone there with Seale and Mott, and met them there—I was not introduced to them, but became acquainted with them by meeting them there, through Seal and Mott—nothing was said about the Custom-house in their presence before I went to Ireland—I had met them perhaps a dozen times before I went to Ireland—when I went there I met Sullivan and

Jordan in Dublin, on the day I came from Drogheda, in my way to England—they then asked me some questions about robbing the Custom-house of Dublin or Drogheda, or any thing of that, which I could assist them in—I told them I could not assist them there in anything of the kind, and I left Dublin that day for England—I returned to London about the 4th of September—I met Seale immediately I returned to duty at the London-docks—we were stationed there together, and the subject of the Custom-house was mentioned several times—the subject was discussed between us as to who were the parties they should employ to commit the robbery at the Receiver of Fines and Forfeitures—Mott had been on leave of absence for a fortnight at that time, and on his return the subject was frequently mentioned between us of an evening when we met at the Duke of Sussex at peckham, and frequently also at Seal's own house at Peckham, which is close to the Duke of Sussex (I lived with Mrs. Godfrey, at No.17, Trinity-terrace, Borough, at the time) Seale had mentioned two parties' names—a man named walter, and Harry Newsom; as he called them—he said they were both experienced cracksmen; but afterwards, on inquiry, Seale found Newsom was not in this country, having gone to America—Seale told me so; and that Walter was out of town—Mott mentioned the names of Sullivan and Jordan—he said he had met them at the Royal Mortar, and had mentioned the subject to them, and had made an appointment for us to meet them at Jordan's house, No. 4, East-lane, Old Kent-road—Seale, Mott, and myself, went there, and met Sullivan and Jordan—as near as I can recollect, that was about the beginning of October—the subject was introduced by Mott and Seale, and the conversation was on that point only (the point of the robbery)—Sullivan and Jordan inquired what the contents of the chest might be in the Receiver of Fines and Forfeiture's Office—they inquired that of Mott—he said, before the King's sale took place, he should be able to ascertain what the actual contents of the chest were—Jordan and Sullivan said they would inspect the place the day after, or the following day, when it suited their convenience; and it was taken arranged that we should meet at Jordan's house a few evenings after they had inspected the place, (the Receiver of Fines and Forfeitures, and the King's warehouse in the Custom-house,) the situation of the place was described by Mott—we met again a few nights afterwards at Jordan's house—Jordan and Suillivan said they had inspected the place, and they considered it would be a very easy matter to accomplish the fact—meaning to rob the place—the subject then spoken of was, which was the best way to accomplish it—Sullivan said, he thought the best way would be to fit the locks of the door, provided they could get impressions of the keys—that was the door going into the King's warehouse from the esplanade—the outer door—the esplanade is on the south side—Mott was not present at this meeting, only Seale, Sullivan, and Jordan—I said I would mention the circumstance to Mott when I saw him, and find whether he could get imperssions of the keys—I met Mott the next evening, and told him what had passed—he said he could get the impression of one of the keys, mentioning the large key; but the impression of the key of the padlock he was fearful he could not get—I communicated this to Sullivan and Jordan, and appointed for us all to meet the following evening at Jordan's house; and we all met on that occasion there—Mott on that occasion produced the large key of the door leading from the esplanade, which he said he had taken from the chest of Mr. Bunnett, a clerk in the same office, in the King's warehouse-keeper's office, and that Mr. Bunnett at the time was absent on sick-leave from sickness—an impression of the key was taken in beeswax at the time by Sullivan—Mott brought the key down, rolled up in a piece of paper of paper folded at the ends—I think it was white paper—after the impression was taken, the key was put up in the same paper, with the intention of returning it to Mr. Bunnett's desk the following morning, when he returned to duty—Seale asked if they would not require the assistance of a third party to effect the robbery—Jordan said, he thought they would, and Seale then mentioned the name of William May—it was merely proposed on that occasion that he should be employed to assist them—we then made an appiontment to meet again a few evenings afterwards, which we did at Jordan's house—Mott, Seale, Jordan, Sullivan, and myself were present, and May was introduced—a skeleton-key was produced by Sullivan which was made from the impression which had been taken—they then stated that this key they had tried at the Custom-house—Jordan and Sullivan said they had tried it to see if it would fit—they described that it would partly fit; but it being rather weak in the shank, they were afraid to force it, and they said they would make another key on a stronger principal—at that meeting Mott produced three small padlock keys, and said it was likely that one of them would fit the padlock outside the door leading from the esplanade—an

impression was taken of those three keys in beeswax, and an appointment made to meet again a few evenings afterwards, which we did—I was there—Seale, May, Jordan, and Sullivan—Mott was not there—we all met but him—May, Sullivan, and Jordan said they had tried these small keys, and none of them would fit, and they mentioned, that they considered the best way of doing it was "stowing away," meaning one of the parties to conceal themselves in the Receivers of Fines and Forfeiture's Office—May volunteered to stow away—they then spoke about which was the best way of effecting this object, and mentioned that they would go and inspect the place again, for that object, to see which was the best method of doing so—we met again at Jordan's house—we were all six present—it was then coming very close to the King's sale, and Jordan said, they (Sullivan, Jordan, and May) should like to know whether the money was actually in the chest or not—and it was spoken of how they should find out whether the money was there or not—it was proposed that one of the parties should purchase a lot at the King's sale, and by so doing, they would have an opportunity of paying for it in the Receiver of Fines' Office, and would have an opportunity of seeing the chest and the contents of it—Mott said he had purchased a lot, or a friend had purchased a lot for him, of twenty gallons of rum—he desired me to tell Sullivan and Jordan so a day or two afterwards, and I told them—he said he would give the ticket for the rum to Jordan, and he could go and see what the contents of the chest were—he said the Custom-house agent had bought the lot for him—he gave me the ticket, which I handed to Jordan, to pay for the lot—I gave directions to Jordan to take it to the Receiver of Fines and Forfeitures, to present it to the Receiver, and pay for the lot—he then said, he had better first go and see the Receiver, to get a knowledge of his person, with the intention of following him into the office the first thing in the morning, before he could have change in his pocket or drawer, to give him for a large note which he intended to present him for payment—an evening or two afterwards we met again—Seale, myself, Jordan, Sullivan, and May—all but Mott—Jordan said he had seen the Receiver of Fines and Forfeitures, and had procured a note, which he meant to present next morning to the receiver—he said it was a £50 note—he mentioned some circumstance at the time, about having some misunderstanding with the banker, on receiving the note that day—we met, I believe, the following evening, which I think was the 26th of November, at Jordan's house—he described that he had watched the Receiver in, the first thing in the morning, a few minutes after nine o'clock, followed him right into his office, and put the ticket down for the fifty gallons of rum, and the £50 note—that the Receiver felt his pocket and opened his drawer, and had not change (as he anticipated)—and then the Receiver went to the strong chest and opened one padlock, but the other did not open, because the key was kept by another party—I think he said he was obliged to wait a moment or two before the party came with that key—that the chest was then opened, and the Receiver took the large cash-box, with both hands, and it was as much as he could do to lift it up on the counter, with both hands; and, from the quantity of gold, and notes under the gold, there must be upwards of 5000l.—he also described, that he wrote his own name on the back of the note, or the front, and gave his own address—he went wnt at that time by the name of William, Sullivan, but his right name is Leary—he said he wrote the name of Leary, No. 4, East-lane, Kent-road and Mott at the time said it was bad judgement to do so, for he said the book in which they kept the numbers of the notes, and the addresses of

the parties who gave notes, on looking at it, would lead to certain detection; and it was then agreed that the leaves of this book should be cut out, or torn out—it was arranged that night, that on the following day, a little before four o'clock, William May should conceal himself in the office of Receive of Fines and Forfeitures, behind the door, that he should go a little before four o'clock, (about seven or eight minutes,) accompanied by Jordan and Sullivan, and at the time of the confusion and bustle of the different officers and clerks leaving the department of the King's warehouse, May should take an opportunity of walking into this office, and standing behind this door, which was left open all night—the door of that particular office is left open all night—it was also arranged that on the following morning, at nine o'clock, (which is the legal hour for the different officers to attend,) at the time the door was open, that Sullivan and Jordan should be in attendance on the esplanade, and three or four minutes after the door was open, and after the watchmen for the night had taken their lamps, and walked through the passage leading by the Receiver of Fines Office, Jordan and Sullivan were to walk through, and give May a sign to come out, and Mott should assist them as much as possible, by detaining the parties in his office who went in to sigh the appearance sheet—it was also arranged that night that we should meet on the morning of the 28th, at Seale's house, at New Peckham, to divide the money—we then separated for that night—I was absent from duty on the 27th—I had been unwell, and was absent four or five days by a sick note—about half-past four o'clock, on the evening of the 27th, Seale called on me at my lodging, No. 17, Trinity-terrace, on his way from the London-dock, and about a quarter of an hour afterwards Jordan and Sullivan called—they told me May had been safely lodged, and described the manner in which it was done—they said that about ten minutes before four o'clock, the clerks in the Receiver of Fines and Forfeitures Office left their office, and two or three minutes after, they, (Jordan, Sullivan, and May,) walked into the passage leading from the esplanade throught the Custom-house, to Thames-street, and took the opportunity, by opening an umbrella, to cover May, and give him an opportunity of going into the office unseen by any parties who stood about—they said they stood about on the esplanade for ten minutes or a quarter of an hour, till all the doors were locked for the night—they said Mott was one of the last parties that came out of the warehouse, that he, on seeing the doors locked, and the man safely lodged, gave a sort of jump for joy—Sullivan and Jordan stopped at my house about half an hour, and went away, appointing to meet us the next morning, at seven o'clock, at the Lord Nelson, Old-Kent-road, to walk across the fields, to show us Seal's house, at Peckham, where we had agreed to meet the following morning—Seal stopped with me till about half-past six o'clock—he and I then went down to the place appointed, and met Jordan and Sullivan close to the Lord Nelson—we walked across Peckam fields to Seal's house—Seale pointed out the house, and we separated—I stopped with Seale a short time that evening, at the Duke of Sussex, at Peckham, Which was close by, and from there went to the Castle in the Old-Kent-road—On the morning of the 28th of November I left home about half-past eight o'clock, and went down to Peckham, where I was to meet Seale on the Canal bridge, a short distance from his house—I went there, and went into the Waterman's Arms there, and had some tea and ale, and about in hour afterwards I saw Seale close to the Waterman's Arms—I opened the window, and he came up-stairs to where I was sitting, and we there sat till we saw May, Sullivan and Jordan coming across the Canal

Bridge towards the waterman's Arms—we then came out and met them, and went from there direct to Seale's house—Mott did not come—he remained at his office—we went into Seale's front parlour—May took the money out of his trowser's pocket in bank notes and sovereigns—Seale then brought in some lunch, a bottle of stout, and so on—May described what took place during the night—he said that shortly after the doors were locked, he set to work at the lock.

Q. Did he say where he went to? A. He was in the Receiver or Fines and Forfeitures' office—he said so—he said he first procured the key which opened the Receiver's lock, from his drawer, which had been described to him by Jordan, who saw where the Receiver took it from—he said he then burst the lock open, and then opened the chest, and took from there the money—he also said he cut the leaves out of the book which contained the numbers and names of the parties who paid money there, and he produced the leaves of the book—we looked over them, and saw the name of Leary—the leaves were then burnt—we then counted the money—it amounted to 4, 700l. in notes, 122l. in gold, and about 50l. in silver—we then divided the money into six equal lots, we tossed up for the choice of lots, and after we tossed for the lots we took our different lots, and there was then a deduction made by them for expenses by (Sullivan, Jordan, and May) there was an odd note left (I believe a £20) but I don't know, we were confused and in a hurry—I did not see the amount of the note, but I think it was 20l.—that and the odd silver, and two odd pounds in gold, they kept for expenses—there was a 50l. note with Leary's name on it, which he described as the one he gave Mr. Walsh, and Jordan requested to have that himself, and he had it—Mott was not present at the time—Seals kept his lot, mine and his own together—he took them up-stairs and put them into a package, with the intention of sending them out of town that day—the other parties (Sullivan, Jordan, and May) went away, each taking their own lot—I met Seale in the evening at the Duke of Sussex, and he told me that our money by that time was sixty or seventy miles out of town—he did not say where then—some months afterward he told me it was gone to Leicester—I went down for it by his request and Mott's in February, 1835—Seale directed me there to call on his sister-in-law, Mrs. Donoram, and she would give it to me—I went to Leicester and applied to her—she took me to a house some distance off—she went into the house and brought the parcel out, and gave it to me—I brought it with me direct to London, to my lodging in Trinity Terrace, and the following evening I had Seale and Mott with me, and I then opened the parcel—it was a small deal box, about six inches square—I found the three parcels inside, with the initials T.S., W.H., and H.M. written in pencil—we then opened them, and we counted our lots separately—they amounted to 745l. in notes each lot.

Q. Was that the sum you had allotted to you on the morning of the 28th of November? A. That was the sum my lot amounted to—Seale did not count his money that morning, but I counted mine—Mott and Seale gave me their parcels, and requested me to keep them for them, which I accordingly did, with the intention, as they said, of getting an opportunity of disposing of the notes.

Q. What did you finally do with their parcels? A. I gave Jordan part of the money, for which he gave us sovereigns, deducting 20 per cent.—for all notes under 50l., which he said were not advertised, he said he would take from me at a discount of 20 per cent., and I brought him I

think 270l.—they were altogether out of the three parcels, I got sovereigns for them from Jordan; and some time afterwards I lead another transaction of a similar kind with Jordan—he undertook or take all the notes I had under 100l., which were not advertised, at 20 per cent discount—I brought him I think about 1l. I met him at a house opposite Astley's theatre, kept by Procter, and there gave him the notes; and a few nights afterwards I met him again, and he gave me the gold for them—I gave Seal his share, and Mott's share I kept for him—the rest of the money I put into a parcel, in a tin case, and concealed it in Camberwell church-yard, where it remained for some month, buried in the ground—I had changed my residence shortly after time—a few months after this, Seale told me we had better try and get rid of the remaining part of our notes; and he said he knew a man who was trustworthy, who would go on the Continent and circulate them—he mentioned his name, Henry Morrison—he said he know where he lived, and would take me to him—I went with him to Henry Morrison's house, and saw Morrison—Seale mentioned the subject—Morrison said he would consider of it, and give us an answer in two or three days—we appointed to meet him in two or three days, at the Leopard coffee-house, near London-bridge—we met him there, and it was agreed that we should give him part of the notes, and allow him 30 percent for circulating them on the Continent—I brought him part of the notes a few nights afterwards to his house—I brought him three of £100, two of £10, and a £5 note—he was absent about ten days on the Continent, and brought the gold to my house for the notes—I was then living at Peckham—I gave Seale his share of the gold, and kept Mott's for him till he required it—I used frequently to meet Mott on the subject at the Duke of Sussex, and he frequently called at my house—I still kept the remaining part of the notes for a few months—in September last I had another transaction with Morrison, of the same description—Mott and Seale were privy to that—it was by their consent; I gave Morrison more notes, and he brought me gold for them from the Continent—I then had three £300 notes left—I was then living at Walworth—I concealed those notes in a cup-board-door, at my own house—I bored a hole with a centre-bit in a part of the door, near the hinge—I there placed the notes, putting a cork on the top to them, first tying them round with a bit of white tape and paper—I put the cork into the hole, and puttied it over, and then painted it—I believe this is the cork and string, and it was such paper as this (looking at them)—I was taken into custody four or five weeks ago—I am not married—a woman lived with me as my wife—she knew I had something concealed there, but did not know it was Bank-notes—the three £300 notes were still concealed there when I was taken into custody, (looking at some notes.) I did not take the numbers of the notes—my father came over here while I was in custody on this charge, and I made a statement to him of what I have told you.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS Q. I collect from what now—I came from Ireland to the custom-house in 1827, and have been employed there till I was apprehended in January last—I was a you say that you are a native of Ireland? A. Yes; my father lives there landing-waiter, the same as Seale—I am about thirty-two years old—I had no employment before I went to the custom-house—I lived with my parents in Ireland—Seale and I became acquainted through my joining the Custom-house, and we quarrelled six or seven months after we became acquainted, which was three or four months after I went to the Custom-house—it

was open quarrel—we had no intimacy for some years after the difference—the reconciliation began about June, 1834—the steps for this robbery commenced very shortly after our making it up—we became very intimate friends immediately after the reconciliation—I was not living with Mrs. Godfrey in June—I was living in Lime-street, City—Dr. Farrant was my landlord—I went from his house to Ireland, and when I came back, I went to lodge with Mrs. Godfrey—she did not know me before I went to lodge there, to my knowledge—Dr. Farrant knew me before I lodged with him—I think he brought me a letter of introduction from a friend of mine—he knew a relation of mine, Dr. Huey, who lived at No. 12, Lime-street, before he went to live there, and he had been my doctor before I went to lodge there, as I had been ill—I went to Ireland on leave of absence—my father requested me to come over to see him—he is a collector of customs at Drogheda—I got into no trouble in Ireland at that time—I returned about the 4th of September—I knew Mott as a clerk by sight, but not otherwise, until June 1834—I knew nothing of him till he was introduced to me by Seale, for the purpose of committing this robbery—the first interview to plan the robbery was at the Three Kingdoms, in Harp-lane—I went there with Seale—Mott was sent for by Seale, and come—we held various meetings at that house—the Duke of Sussex, the Royal Mortar, and the Castle, were generally our places of meeting—we generally met of an evening, after the Custom-house business was over—nobody was present at the first meeting but Seale and Mott—the conversation was between us three.

Q. Was the whole plan arranged there, or was it only just suggested? A. It appeared as if the conversation was an old one between Mott and Seale—Seale proposed breaking open the chest to me—I was rather willing and acquiescing in it—I cannot recollect whether I hesitated about it or not—I did not say I would not mix myself up with it—it was all that time in contemplation till November—we have frequently been seen together at the Duke of Sussex, kept by Mrs. Gurney—her son-in-law has seen us there continually—I do not know whether he is here—he acted as landlord—I do not recollect his name—he used to bring liquor into the room—we took care that nobody should hear our conversation on this subject—Peck keeps the Royal Mortar—he waited on the customers, and knew as very well, and also the man who keeps the Castle—we occasionally met there as well as at other houses—Mott was not present at all the meetings.

Q. Will you swear he was ever at any conversation, except at the meeting when Seale sent for him from the Custom-house? A. Yes, several; and they were in the evening—I kept no dates—the robbery was to be done on the 27th—I did not point out the mode by which it was to be done—I was a sharer, and accessory—I did not take any part in pointing out how it might be done, for I was never in the Receiver's Office in my life, where it is now situated—the office was originally differently situated—it has been lately removed to the King's Warehouse, and in that office I never was in my life—I could not furnish any means how it could be accomplished.

Q. Did you know any thing of the use of cracksmen and such phrases? A. I was not acquainted with them at first—I judged what they meant by stowing away—I fancied what a cracksman meant, but did not know to a certainly—I did not know what it was till it was explained—I asked Seale what it meant—I suspected what it meant, and asked to make myself certain—I was never a witness any where before in my life—I never

wrote down an account of this transaction since I have made the disclosure I gave an account of it, but not before—I made a disclosure to my father and Mr. Rowan, a friend, at the same time—I was in custody at the time it was not written down then it was first written down, I think about the 23rd or 24th of January—I was then in Giltspur-street complete—Mr. Rowan took some notes of it, and some days afterwards Mr. Walford and Mr. Hobler took it down Mr. Rowan has been a friend of mine for years—he took down what I had to disclose with a view to make a full disclosure to his Majesty's Customes it was to have the particulars of my disclosure for the purpose of detection—I requested Mr. Rowan to goto the Commissioners, and say I would make a full disclosure and confession of my guilty knowledge of the transaction—he took it down, because he said he could not know what it was unless he did take it down.

Q. did you give the account to save yourself, or for the purposes of justice? A. My object in doing it, was for the purpose of saving Mr. Rowan from blame, which might be attached to him for his friendly conduct towards me; and, in the next place as a sort of justice to my father and family, for the disgrace I had brought upon them—as to myself, I said at the time I should have no mercy, for I should be transported for life—my family first knew of it when my father came to town—that was about the 19th of January—my father knew nothing of it from me till I was taken up—he was on his way here, and came to town the day I was apprehended—I made a full confession of every thing at the time, and Mr. Rowan took it down in writing—he took a note of it, and I afterwards gave it to Mr. Hobler and Mr. Walford—Mr. Hobler took down the whole of it from the beginning to the end, as near as I can recollect—I told him the same as I have repeated here to-day, as near as I can recollect—Jordan and Sullivan came to me at my own house on the 27th, and remained there half an hour—Jordan, Sullivan, and May came to me at the Canal-bridge on the 28th—we then proceeded to Seale's house—we had to go about 100 yards from the Canal-bridge a woman waited on us at the public-house, before we went to Seale's—I have not seen her since, to my knowledge—there was nobody in the house but Seale and myself—we sat in a room below, and when we saw the other parties coming across the Canal-bridge, we came out and met them—I saw nobody but Seale when we got to his house—I did not see Mrs. Seale, she might have been in the house, but I did not see her—Seale went on before, and had the door opened—Seale told me he did up the parcel that was sent to Leicester—Mott had a portion of the money—on my coming back from Leicester in February 1835, with the parcel, it was opened, and the seals broken—that was at Mrs. Godfrey's in Trinity-terrace—Mrs. Godfrey did not see it done—Seale, Mott, and myself did.

Q. May I ask you why you kept this in your mind till January, when you were apprehended did you mean never to disclose it, if you had not been apprehended? A. I do not know that it is a question I can answer—I might have been induced to disclose it, but I cannot say I would not, nor that I would—being apprehended, I disclosed it at once for the reasons I have given—I frequently dined out—I occasionally dined at house nobody knew I had the money—the woman I lived with knew I had something concealed she did not know what it was I had before that put in the church-yard I know a person of the name of Bevan—I deposited a box with him in November, 1834, I think it was a day or two before the 27th the box contained private documents and things of mine, some papers and other things.

Q. What other things? A. I do not know that I am obliged to answer—it was before the robbery—unless I am obliged to answer, I decline—it cannot criminate myself—it has no connexion with this matter.

COURT. You say you have no apprehension of its criminating yourself? A. It may in one sense of the word, it does not at all belong to this case.

MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS. Q. I ask you on your oath to tell me what the box contained, which you deposited with Mr. Bevan a day or two before the 27th? A. Unless obliged by the Court, I cannot answer, because in one sense I may criminate myself—I have got the box from him again—it might be a month or two afterwards; it was before I was taken up—I have kept it in my possession ever since—I do not know that I have it now—I have never been accused of taking money from any man—we had a landing-waiter named William Pitlam, belonging to the Customs—we very rarely kept company—we did not spent out evenings together—I used to be with him on business at the London Docks—I was with him twice on an evening—I was never charged with having a 5l. note of his, not a book—I dined with him one day—Seale brought him one evening to dine at my house—he and Seale both went away tipsy—there was never a dispute about a 5l. note that evening—I never said I had shaken him of a 5l. note—I do not know what shaking means—I recollect nothing whatever about it—I never said I got a 5l. note by shaking him against a wall—Mr. Rowan has been a very zealons friend of mine for some years—I have already stated that my motive for making confession of my guilty knowledge of this transaction was, a sort of feeling to make some sort of compensation to my father for the ruin and disgrace I have brought upon him, and the disgrace I have brought on Mr. Rowan, and all through his friendly feeling towards me, and thinking I was innocent, he did commit himself—that was the feeling that dictated my confession to them.

Q. Do not you expect to be saved yourself? A. I do not know what to expect—it was no expectation of that kind that induced me to make a confession—perhaps I may be saved to a certain extent—I have not been told that I shall, not by any body—I believe, to a certain extent, that I may be saved.

COURT. Q. Do you expect to be benefited by giving evidence? A. I do not expect to be benefited.

MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS. Q. Do not you expect to be saved from punishment by it? A. I cannot say but I do expect it may be less—I may expect to be saved to a certain extent, because my punishment may be mitigated—I cannot know what will happen—I do not know whether I shall be indicted and tried—I have never thoroughly considered the matter—I do not know what the consequences will be—I believe and think that perhaps my punishment may be mitigated.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Are you a married man? A. No, I am not nor ever was—I have left nobody in Ireland who I called my wife.

Q. Nor any children you call yours? A. Not legitimate children—I never lived with any body as my wife, except the woman in England; that I swear the children were at Drogheda—I think I have had only two—I have had the credit of having two—I cannot positively say they were mine—my father is a collector of the customs at Drogheda, and lives in the Custom-house—considerable responsibility is entailed on him in that situation when the men proposed to me to rob the Custom-house at Drogheda I told them there was nothing to rob—that is the reason I did not

disclose that to my father—there was very little property in the Custom-house—the money does not remain there, it is sent to London every week—that was the reason I did not disclose it to my father—I did feel disgusted at the proposal—I did not think any thing of the kind would take place—I do not know whether there was property in the Custom-house of Dublin—I was not acquainted with it—I do not know how long my father was collector of the Custom-house at Drogheda—I should think he has been so twenty-four or twenty-five years—I have been about eight years in the Custom-house—I entered at a salary of 200l. a year, and at the time of the robbery I had 250l.—I had no perquisites, except for seizures—they would not average 50l. a year—that was the way I lived, and the only way—I am no business.

Q. Am I to understand you derived money from no other source? A. No, I should say no profit from any other source—I have often gambled a good deal, and have often won 100l. and lost 100l.—what I might win one day I might call mine, but it was not profit—I never gave a different account of this transaction, to the best of my knowledge, to any body, never to my recollection—I have known Jordan and Sullivan eighteen or nineteen months—in my examination before the surveyor-general, Mr. Manning, I said that I did not know them—that was not true—it was not on oath, it was before I was in custody—I was only examined once before Mr. Manning—I was asked if I knew them, and I said I did not—at that time I had known them longer than twelve months—Mr. Worthington was present at the examination—they were both present when I said I did not know Jordan or Sullivan.

Q. You have been talking about a torn leaf, what name was on one of the torn leaves?—what was the Christian name? A. It was either William or John, I am not sure which—I have said it was William, to the best of my recollection—I think I said William Leary—I swore to the best of my recollection.

COURT. Q. Do you know whether the name on the note was John or William? A. I do not know whether it was John or William positively.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you see the note? A. I did, and saw the name of Leary on it—I do not recollect which Christian name it was—there were some bank-notes, concerning which I was questioned by Mr. Manning, which it was alleged I had received from Jordan—Mr. Manning asked me to account from where I got these notes—I said to the best of my recollection I got them from a gaming-house—I have seen Mr. Manning here to-day—I said I had won a sum of money at No. 1, Leicester-square, and perhaps I might have got them there—I said I thought I had got them there—I do not think I said positively that I had got them there.

Q. Did you hesitate about having taken them there till Mr. Manning showed you the house was not open at the time? A. I said I might have got them there—to the best of my recollection I did not say positively—I did not say that Captain Jones was with me that night—I said that Jones had been there with me—I mentioned No.1, Leicester-square, without the slightest hesitation—I said I might have got them there—that was the word I used.

COURT. Q. What was it you said? A. I said at that time I had won a sum of money at No. 1, Leicester-square, an I might have got them there, but it turned out the house was not open at the time, but the party who kept that house kept one close to it.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Is that house in the same street or square? A. Not one hundred yards off—it is in Leicester-place, Leicester-square—they are Jews who keep it—I gave that house as No.—, Leicester-square—there is a gaming-house in Leicester-place—that is the house I spoke of—to the best of my recollection they kept the house at that time—I have been in a great many gamin-houses within the last twelve months—perhaps a dozen.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. I think you spoke of a conversation you had with Jordan on the 26th of November, the day before the robbery—was it on the 26th of November to which the conversation referred about the £50 note?—was it the 26th or not? A. The conversation about the £50 note, and having given it to Mr. Walsh, was on the 26th of November—that was the note he wrote his name and address on.

MR. ATTORNEY GENERAL. Q. When were you taken up? A. I think about the 15th of January—I made the disclosure on the 21st of January—till then I had denied all knowledge of them—my father arrived in London on the first day that I was brought before the magistrates—I don't know the date—it was before the 21st of January—I first confessed in Coldbath-fields prison before my father and Mr. Rowan—my father was very much distressed on account of my situation—it was after the 21st of January that I was first examined on oath—I then made a disclosure, and stated in substance what I have stated to-day—I disclosed to Mr. Rowan where the money was concealed—that was when I was at Coldbath-fields.

COURT. Q. Will you repeat to me what was told you—you any Jordan and Sullivan came to you in the afternoon of the 27th of November? A. Yes; about a quarter before five o'clock—they told me that about seven or eight minutes before four o'clock they (Sullivan, Jordan, and May) watched the clerks out of the Receiver of fines and-forfeitures' office, and that they took an opportunity, by standing together and putting up an umbrella, for the purpose of covering the person of May from any persons that might be standing about, so that he might go into the Receiver of fines and forfeitures' office, which they did, and then went on the esplanade—they did not describe to me exactly what May did while the umbrella was flashed up.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did not one of them tell you, while the umbrella was open, May walked into the office and closed the door? A. They said he went into the office—they did not say how he got in—they said he walked into the Receiver of fines' office, and they came away—I don't trecollect that they said whether he or they closed the door, or any thing about it.

GEORGE FRANCIS ROWAN . I am a searcher and tide-waiter of the port of London. I have been acquainted with Huey for six years, and have known his father about two years—he is a collector of customs for the port of Drogheda, in Ireland—since the young man has been in town I have acted as his friend—he sent to me and told me he was taken into custody, and I made a communication to his father in Ireland by letter—I saw him at Lambeth-street in custody the first time, and I was denied admission afterwards—I did not apply, but I knew I could not see him—his father came on the Wednesday night, I think—we applied to the Magistrate for an order, and got admission to see him—his father appeared in a very dejected and miserable state—he did not make any disclosure the first man I saw him with his father, as we were separated by two bars, but afterwards, by order of the Magistrate, we were within the bars, and then be made a disclosure to us—I afterwards went to the place of his abode,

in consequence of a communication he made, and searched a cupboard—I saw Mrs. Hucy—I made a very minute search before I saw her, and found nothing whatever—when Mrs. Hucy came in, she went to the back part of the cupboard door, on the lodge near the hinge—she called for a corkscrew and drew forth a cork—I had not been able to find that cork myself; it was painted and puttied over so much that it escaped my observation altogether—when the cork was drawn, there was a small paper parcel with something tied round it and notes in it—these are the notes (produced)—my signature is on them—I marked them at the time—they are No. 7988. dated "4th October, 1831," 300l.; No.2309, dated "14th November. 1831." 300l.; and No.2310, dated "14th November, 1834." 300l.; I handed these notes to Mr. Hobler, and took a receipt for them.

Q. Had you and the father, before you went to see the young man in prison, any interview with the Commissioners of the Customs? A. I think I saw one of the Commissioners on the Monday previous—I told them on the Tuesday that I had seen Hucy twice—I saw one of the Commissioners before the Wednesday on which I went and received the disclosure.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Had you any authority from the Commissioners to make any communication to him on the subject? A. I had no authority from them to make a communication—I told one of the Commissioners I had seen him, and begged him to make a disclosure to me as closely as I could, but I could not persuade him—I did not make him any promise for any disclosure he was to make—I do not know Andrew Morrison—I had a communication with a person—I do not know who he was—I think I saw him to-day about half-past eight o'clock when I drove by here—I did not make him the offer of a free pardon to give evidence—I said I would try to get him one—I did not see any Commissioner of Customs till afterwards—I think was last Monday night—I have been intimate with Huey ever since 1830.

Q. Did you make an offer to a strange man of a free pardon, and yet made no offer to your friend with whom you had been intimate so long? A. Decidedly I did not—I never made any offer to get Huey a situation in the colonies or the West lndies, if he gave evidence—I had no authority to do so—I never said so to any person.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. The person to whom you made the proposal you did not see till last Monday week? A. No, that had nothing whatever to do with Huey's confession—his confession was on a Monday, in January—the evidence of the person I made the offer to, was to be given about May.

WILLIAM BILLINGS . I am the King's warehouse-keeper at the Customs. I know Mr. Walsh, the Receiver of the fines—I deposited four £100 notes with him about the 19th of November, 1834. a few days before the robbery—I am not certain as to the day—I did not take the numbers myself, but I have obtained them from the bankers—I received them from Lubbock and Co.—I believe it was a day or two before I gave them to Mr. Walsh—I deposited with him the same £100 notes as I received from Lubbock's—I remember the fifty-seventh sale at the Custom-house I was auctioneer on the occasion—I have a book of the sale here

Lot 329 was twenty gallons of rum—it was bought in the name of T.C. Jones—it amounted to the 11l., I believe it was sold by the gallon—I know Jones—he sometimes bought for himself and sometimes for other persons—he is a general merchant and buyer at the Custom-house. I have given

strict orders that no person in my employ should bid for any lot—Mott was one of my clerks, and he was within that rule—I have been endeavouring to trace out this robbery almost ever since it was committed—on the 2nd of December, (I believe,) I went to the Red Lion, in King-street—I was accompanied by Foster, Lec, and Stace, the officers—I saw Jordan and Sullivan there—I saw Jordan first—I was left below with a couple of persons to wait while Lee and the other officers were up stairs securing Sullivan—I was left below to secure Jordan if he should arrive—I heard a disturbance up stairs—I sent the parties with me to assist, and in the mean time Jordan came into the house—the landlady gave me an intimation that it was Jordan—he ordered his breakfast and went up stairs—I followed him, and when he arrived on the first landing-place he heard the disturbance above stairs, and was attempting to come down again—I put a pistol to his breast, and told him he was my prisoner, and begged he would not move—I called for assistance, and somebody came from the party above stairs and secured him—I received the notes for a cheque of 498l. odd shillings.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS. Q. Does your duty take you into the King's warehouse, into the room where the chest was kept? A. No, very seldom—I have no duty there.

COURT. Q. Your warehouse is exactly on the other side of the lobby? A. Yes.

CHARLES HIGAM . I am a clerk in the house of Messrs. Lubbock, the bankers, I have my book of November, 1834—on the 19th of November, 1834, I gave cash for a cheque of 498l. 5s.—I gave four notes of 100l. each, Nos. 8693, 8694, 8695, and 8698—another clerk will prove the dates—I only enter the numbers when I pay notes away—the numbers are taken when the notes come into the house.

ALGERNON BUTTERFIELD . I am a clerk to Messrs. Lubbock. I have an entry of the notes, 8694 and 8698—they were both dated October 28th, 1834—these are the notes (looking at some)—they correspond with the entry.

COURT. Q. Do you speak to No.8693? A. Yes; that was dated also October the 28th, and 8695 the same—all four were that date.

WILLIAM KEDGE . I am a cabinet-maker. In November, 1834, I lived at No. 3, East-lane, Old Kent-road—a person named Leary lived next door to me—I had opportunities of seeing him—the prisoner Jordan is the man—he did not carry on any business, to my knowledge—I have also seen Sullivan and Seale there frequently, on Sundays—I have seen Huey there at the same time as the others—Leary left that house at the beginning of December, 1834—I usually saw these persons there at a late hour in the afternoon—I might say from four to five o'clock—I have seen them go out, and walking down the garden.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS. Q. Were you ever inside the house Leary lived in? A. Yes; several times, in my business—I was employed in the house by the landlady, but not at the time the persons called there—I am quite sure Seale is one of the persons I have seen go there—I believe I have always said so—I can say I have seen him more than once.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. What sized house is it? A. A four-roomed house, and a room at the back—I have worked in it both below stairs and up stairs while Leary lived there—I never knew there to be any lodgers in the house—I will not swear there was not.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Can you fix on any day when you saw these persons there? A. No; I have seen them there on a

Sunday—(Leary came the beginning of November, and left early in December)—it was not so dark when they came as not for me to see them—it was dusk, about four or five o'clock—it has never been so dark but I could discover them—they had their hats on when I saw them—I never saw them after the early part of December, till I saw them before the Justice—I am a master tradesman—I keep no shop—what I do, I do for myself—I was not an acquaintance of theirs at all.

MR. CHAMBERS. Q. How long did Leary live next door to you before November? A. Not above two months—these persons came there very shortly after he came to the house—they continued coming till Leary went away.

COURT. Go to the bar and touch the persons you mean. (The witness here pointed out Jordan and Sullivan. Witness. I have seen both the other two there, more than once—I have seen them there on Sundays.

Q. Often, or seldom? A. Seldom—(looking at his deposition;) this is my handwriting—it was read over to me before I signed it.

COURT. Then you have not given the same account to-day—before you said, "I have seen Sullivan, Mott, and Huey there; I cannot say I have seen Seale."

MARY ANN RUDD . I am landlady of the house, No. 4, East-street, Kent-road. I let that in the Autumn of 1834—I think it was from the latter end of August to about the 1st of December—I let it to a Mr. Leary—I have seen him since before the Magistrates—it was the prisoner Jordan—I do not know any of the other prisoners.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. When had you seen Leary before to-day? A. When I was called on—when I was subpoened—I saw him in Wellclose-square.

JOHN CORDY RICHES . I am in the coal and potato trade. I lived in East-lane, Kent-road—while I carried on business there, a person named Leary lived opposite, at No. 4—that is the man (pointing to Jordan)—as far as I can recollect, he lived there about three months while I was there—he came in 1834, two or three weeks before Michaelmas quarter—I have seen Sullivan and Mott go there, and I have every reason to believe I have seen Seale—Sullivan lived at that time at the bottom of what I believe is called Stamford-place, going out of East-lane, directly opposite my house—I served Leary and Sullivan with coals and vegetables while they lived there—my house is called No. 3—there are two or three Nos. 3.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS. Q. Who are the men you have been speaking of as having seen at Leary's? A. The two middle prisoners I have been constantly visiting at No. 4. (Sullivan and Mott)—I know nothing about Mott, besides seeing him backwards and forwards there—I am positive of him—I have seen him continually visiting there—I also feel confident Seale is a man I have seen visiting at the house—I am under no mistake—Mr. Hobler applied to me to become a witness here—I appeared at Wellclose-square a few weeks ago—I received 1s. with the subpœna.

MR. ADOLPHES. Q. Were you examined before the Justices there? A. Yes,

MARY GODEFREY . I live at No. 17, Trinity-Terrace, Trinity-square, Borough. Huey lived in my house—he first came to lodge on the 22nd of September, 1831, and occupied the two parlours—on the afternoon of the 27th of November, Hucy came home from four to five o'clock, to the best

of my knowledge—he came alone—a gentleman came and dined with him—I should know him again—that is the gentleman (pointing to Seale)—Huey had ordered dinner about a quarter past four o'clock, and Mr. Seale came in while he was at dinner—I cannot say whether he came alone—two other gentlemen called on Huey at the time they were at dinner—I should know them—Jordan and Sullivan are the persons—they staid about a quarter or half an hour—Huey let them out—Seale remained with Huey an hour or two hours—to the best of my knowledge Huey went out with him—I cannot say at what time Huey came home that night—he left home pretty early next morning—I should suppose about eight o'clock—it might be before or a little after—I cannot say exactly whether he went out before breakfast—I remember Huey's going into the country at the latter end of January, or beginning of February, 1835—he went away on Monday morning, and returned on Tuesday night—after his return, I noticed a small square box and some sealing-wax on it—I saw it in the fire-place in his bed-room—that was the back parlour.

Q. Did you see either of the prisoners at his lodging about the time or before you noticed the box? A. I cannot say whether it was at the time or before—I saw Sullivan there—a great many called—I cannot say I did see them afterwards—they have all been to Huey's lodgings at different times—I opened the door to Sullivan one night—I have a daughter who attended on my lodgers—I do not keep a servant.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. You were examined before the Magistrate? A. Yes—Huey was ill at my house—I will not swear it was at the latter end of November—he was confined—he came home on the Saturday, and remained in about two or three days—he did not go out—that was about the latter end of November—he was confined to his bed two days, and the other two or three days to the house—he might have been five or six days altogether ill—he was not all that time in the house—he went out on the Wednesday—he was confined from Saturday to Wednesday.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. About your examination at Wellclose-square, were you examined early in the day or late in the evening? A. Late in the evening—Huey had key of the street-door to himself—he could let himself in and out without my knowledge—I did not see him sometimes when he went out in the morning, until next morning—when he was at home, he generally went out about seven o'clock in the evening, and let himself in.

MARY GODFREY, JUN . I live with my mother, and assist her in attending to the lodgers—Huey lodged at my mother's in November, 1834—on the 27th of that month Mr. Seale came to dine with him—while they were at dinner, or after, two gentlemen came—I did not let them in, but I saw them—they are the two farthest prisoners (Jordan and Sullivan)—it was about half-past four o'clock—I have seen the prisoner Mott there—I did not see him there that day—I have on other days, before and after that—he came to see Huey—he staid with him when he came—he usually came about five or four o'clock—I have seen him come a great many times—I remember seeing the small box—it was burnt. JAMES JORDAN. In 1834 I was a watchman at the Custom-house. I know the persons of Jordan and Sullivan, and had know them for some months before the robbery—I saw them at the Custom-house in the course of that year—I had seen them several times at the Custom-house before the time the robbery took place—I should say both in and outside the Custom-house—I cannot say I have seen them inside the King's warehouse—I have seen

them about the King's warehouse—I saw them about there after the robbery, once or twice—in December, 1835, I recollect being in the East-cellar—I saw Huey there, and in consequence of something he said, I went to Mr. Mott. land Mott came to the East-cellar to him—Huey had desired me to tell Mott a gentleman wanted to see him in the King's warehouse, not to say who it was, nor let any person hear—I communicated the message to Mott privately, not only in consequence of what Huey told me, but I had heard something before—Mott came to him—I was quite close to them when they met—Mott asked Huey how he was—he said he was very bad, and he said, "I am," or, "we are done, by God "—they then left the cellar, and I saw no more of them.

MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS. Q. It was Huey used that phrase? A. Yes.

FRANCIS CHARLES HILLERY . I am a clerk in the Bank. I have an entry of some notes paid to Mr. Wood—one was No.7988, dated "4th October, 1834. "for 300l.—it was in payment of a cheque—I paid it to him on the 22nd of October, 1834.

SAMUEL STERCK re-examined. Q. You stated that you put out the fires in the officer of the Receiver of Fines and Forfeitures; is there any fire in the outer office? A. There was only one fire that I know of—that was in the inner office, next to the door as you go in—it is not where the clerk's place is—there is a partition—it is only room, but the partition parts it—the fire is in the outer part, at first entering the room—the does was fast after the clerks went out of the office—it shuts to with a spring. lock—no one was left in the room when I left it, not to my knowledge—I am not positive, but I rather think the door will fall to on a person going out.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS. Q. Does the door shut of itself?—it has a spring, has it not, which shuts itself? A. I am not exactly positive whether it does—it has got a spring-lock.

MR. WALSH re-examined Q. Does the door from the outer office into the passage shut by a spring? A. It does now—believe it did not at that time that is the door leading from the clerk's office to the passage, called "the outer office."

CHARLES GEORGE THORPE . I reside at Dower's hotel, at Calais. I have a book, in which persons' names are entered who come to the hotel (producing it)—on the 9th of September, 1835, I have the name of William Herring entered—I believe the prisoner Jordan to be the person who entered in that name—there was another party with him—there were two together—they requested me to get their passports signed to go into Belgium, and to take their places by the coach for Lisle, which I did—the entry in the book was made by the parties themselves—here is "Williamson, John, aged 10, merchant, native of England, usual place of residence, England, London; arrived from Dover and went to Lisle on the 9th, the next day"—they arrived on the 8th—the other entry is "William Herring, aged 39, chemist by profession, (that is what was on his passport,)native of England, usual place of residence, London; came from Dover"—those two persons had their places to Lisle by the coach—they returned to Calais on the 13th and went back to Dover on the 14th, by the post-office mail—I saw them on issued the vessel—I saw them write these entries when they came—when they left the entry was in my handwriting.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS. Q. Which is the man you believe to be one of them? A. Jordan, the farthest from me—I am what is called "the commissioner"—a great many men came to the hotel in the course of a day. I have not a distinct recollection of all the persons that come they slept at the hotel going and coming. I can tell by

the book how many guests we had that day—only four arrived that day—very possibly we had a great many persons in our house at that time—I only believe Jordan to be one of them—I have been long at Calais, and on the continent generally—it is not uncommon for persons of the highest respectability to travel under feigned names—they often give military names—I was not subbpœned to come here—they sent a messenger to bring me here—I was at Boulogne at the time, being arrested for debt—I got released, and came here.

COURT. Q. Have you any recollection at what time of day they came on the 8th?, A. It was towards the middle of the day—they quitted for Lisle about one o'clock on the 9th—they returned about eight o'clock in the evening of the 13th from Lisle, by the evening coach, and sailed for England on the 14th, and I think about nine or ten o'clock in the morning.

NARCISSE VALLORS DUPONT (through an interpreter). I am a jeweller and goldsmith, and live at Lisle, and am a changer of money. I changed this 100l. note (looking at one) on the 10th of September, 1835—I wrote my name on it three days afterwards—two Englishmen came to my house on the 10th of September, from twelve to one o'clock, to buy a gold watch—after they had examined the watches which I presented to them, they chose one, and compared it with an English watch—I gave them a gold key to wind up the watch which I had sold them—they afterwards drew out of a pocket-book this Bank-note of 100l., and I made one of them sign on the note—he signed his name "William Herring"—I gave back to Herring he difference of the price of the watch in gold money of France, and a Bank bill of 500 francs—William Herring is the furthest prisoner from me (Jordan.)

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Had you seen that person before who came to your shop? A. Never; the next time I saw the same person was in England, before a Magistrate—I cannot swear positively that Jordan is the man—he is very much like the person—he has a great deal of "analogy" with the man I saw at my house—I mean likeness, resemblance.

COURT. Q. Do you or do you not believe be is the man? A. I believe he is the man.

SIGISMUND MESSEL . I live at Brussels, and am in the employ of my uncle, who is a banker there. I remember two persons coming to my house on the 11th of September last, between one and two o'clock in the day—they were Englishmen—they came to change a bank-note—this is the note—I changed it—it has my handwriting on it—it is for 100l., (No. 8694, dated the 28th of October, 1834)one of them wrote on it, in my presence, "Mr. W. Herring, Marine P—, Dover"—here is part of the writing on this note now, "Marine P—, Dover"—there is a Marine Parade at Dover—I think Jordan is one of the men who came to me on that occasion—he is the person who wrote on the note, according to the best of my recollection.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. How long was the person in your sight who wrote on the note? A. Nearly half an hour—I think it was ten days or a fortnight after the occurrence, that I was first called on to recollect about this—I was shewn another person besides Jordan, for the purpose of recognising which of the two came to my house—I do not see that the now—I saw that person at Guy's Hospital—his name was not told to me—that was the only person I saw—that was at the end of January—About ten days or a fortnight after, I changed the note; I sent to London, and received a letter from the Custom-house, to ask me to

give a description of the person—I think to the best of my belief Jordan is the man, but I will not swear it.

MR. BODKIN. Q. When you saw the man at Guy's Hospital, did you recognise him as having any part in the transaction? A. No; I said so—my being written to from the Custom-house was the first communication I had about it after changing the note—inquiries were made of me, and I gave a description of the person—I came over here in January.

NARCISSA VALLORS DUPONT re-examined by Mr. Clarkson. (Looking at a gold watch) I saw this watch before the Justice here, and I had seen it before at Lisle.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Do you know that watch again, or only that it is like the one you saw at Lisle? A. Herring showed me one like this at Lisle.

COURT Q. I Had you the watch in your hand at Lisle? A. I do not recollect—I saw it very near, but I do not recollect having it in my hands—I did not look at the maker's name or number.

GEORGE BENNETT . I am a clerk in the Custom-house. My seat is in the clerk's office, in the warehouse keeper's office—Mr. Mott sat next to me.

Q. Is there a bar in that office to prevent accidental comers from seeing what is doing in your disk? A. They can see into the office, but cannot get in to the desk—if they raise themselves up, they might see what was in the desk, but they could see me and the clerks without raising themselves up—Mott could see all I did without any difficulty—I had in my possession a duplicate key of the king's warehouse—it was a large key—I kept it in my desk or drawer—sometimes in my desk and sometimes in my drawer—I occasionally took it home with me—I kept it in my desk by day, and took it home at night, rolled up in paper—In 1834, I was absent from duty, on account of sickness, from the 22nd of November to the 2nd or 3rd of December, and my key at that time, to the best of my belief, was in my desk—I had left it at the Custom-house—Seale used to come to my office to Mott, just before four o'clock, as I supposed, to walk home with him.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS. Q. What is the bar that separates your seat from where strangers would come? A. An iron bar—merely an iron rail about breast high—any one can look over it, and by raising themselves up, they could see into the desk—three clerks use the office—Mr. Mott, Mr. Herman, and myself; and the messenger usually sits there—a stranger would come in, but not within the bar—I know Huey by sight, just to say, "good morning"—I knew him as a custom-house landing waiter—I did not see him about the custom-house much—I have seen him in our office, if he came in to ask any questions—I do not recollect having seen him in our office—I have seen him about the custom-house—he may or may not have been in our office—I have known Mott a good while I think he has been there ever since 1829 or 1830—it is a common for two clerks to walk home together—my leaving the key was accidental, occasioned by my being ill—it would be visible to any clerk in the office who came there—when I came back from my sickness I found the key where I left it I had the key of my desk I found the key exactly as I left it but I cannot speak positively whether it was in my desk or drawer—I found it in no situation to excite my surprise. MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Was it left in a desk or drawer where persons coming accidentally would not have across? A. Persons had no business

at the drawer—it was my private drawer—no person could have occasion to see it in my desk—it was not given to any one to do my work while I was away—I left it—locked up or out of night, and found it exactly as I supposed I had left it—it was wrapped up in paper.

COURT. Q. Did you leave the drawer or desk locked? A. The desk was locked, I kept the key locked up, and found it so—it could not have been removed out of that but by means of a false key.

FRANCES BRADY . I am a boot and shoe maker, and live in Cornbury-place, Kent-road—I know all the prisoners—I worked for Sullivan and Jordan—I cannot say how long I have known them—I think it was the latter end of 1834—I recollect hearing of the robbery at the Custom-house—I think I knew them before that—I have seen the four prisoners in company, in the parlour of the Castle, in the old-Kent-road (I think it was before the robbery) not particularly in company, but mixing together as other people—I have seen them frequently at different times—there was a free-and-easy about to take place, and I was to take the cahir, at Thomas Reynolds's, and I invited some of them to go—I gave cards to Sullivan, and I think to Seale—I will not be certain, but I recollect Sullivan and Seale, and two or three of them came there on that occasion—I think they came together, but I cannot say positively—I was in the room at the time—I think they were not long after each other—it was at Tom Reynold's, at the Lion and Lamb, at Horseley-down.

Q. Have you ever heard any of the prisoners converse on the subject of the Custom-house robbery? A. Yes, I have, at different times—I think I heard Sullivan converse on it—it was the topic of conversation with all persons mixed together—I never heard the prisoners converse by themselves on the question—I heard Sullivan converse on the subject—I do not recollect either of the other prisoners being present at the time, but they might have been, as it was frequently a matter of conversation—one night I heard Sullivan say there was a number of gold watches there—I said I wondered they did not take the gold watches—he said, "No, diamonds were the things"—that a man might put as many in his pocket and walk away unsuspected; but he did not speak as if he was connected with it—I thought it was as if he might have read of it—I know Huey—I have seen him at this place at the same time as the prisoners frequently.

COURT. Q. You have pointed out Jordan, by what name did you know him A. I knew him as the brother of Thomas Sullivan—I cannot say that I heard him called by any name, but I was given to understand he was the brother of Thomas Sullivan—I knew Sullivan by the name of Sullivan.

---- MYERS. I am a constable belonging to the Sessions-house of Southwark I know Mott and Sullivan, and I know Jordan by sight, but not by name—I have known Mott many years—for some time before the robbery at the Custom-house, I was frequently in the habit of visiting public-houses in the neighbourhood—I have seen Sullivan and Mott together at the Royal Mortar, in the London-road, dept by Mr. Peck—I know Huey—I saw him once in company with Mott at the Royal Mortar I know the Castle, in the Old Kent-road—I believe it is kept by Mr. Smith I have seen Sullivan and Jordan there together frequently—I cannot call to mind how many times—I know the Lion and Lamb, kept by Tom Reynolds—I have seen Mott and Sullivan there together—I know

the King's Arms, in Blackman—about two or there years ago I recollect seeing Sullivan there by himself.

Cross-examined by MR. ANDREWS. Q. The Royal Mortar is near the Circus, is it not? A. Yes; in the London—road—it is a place persons may very likely go to after the entertainment at the Circus—Mr. peek. helps the house—it had a coffee—room, used by respectable gentlemen—it may he twelve months ago that I saw Mott with Sullivan at the Lion and Lamb—I merely guess the time—I have known Molt for many year to he a respectable man.

MARY ANN DUGGINS . I live at the Castle, in Old Kent-road—I was there in September 1831, and staid till the middle of January, 1835—I have seen Sullivan and Jordan there, and Seale—I knew Jordan by the name of Leary, he was frequently there—I have seen them there frequently together—I have seen Huey there with the three prisoners of an evening, in the public room.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS. Q. When did you leave the Castle? A. Last January twelve months, I waited in the room chiefly—there was a boy, but he did not wait, unless I was out of the way.

JOSEPH NATHANIEL BORGUIS . My mother—in—law keeps the Duke of Sussex, at Peckham. I conduct the business for her—we entered the house on the 27th of September, 1834—I know the prisoners Seale and Mott well, but not the other two—I have seen Huey at our house likewise—I have seen them there together—they were in the habit of using that house before we took it—they occasionally used it, down to the time of their being apprehended, but Huey did not quite so long—Seale living close by, used to come almost every evening—Mott usually came once a week—on Sunday mornings they would perhaps meet together, with two or three other gentlemen belonging to the Custom—house, when I opened the house after church time, and take a glass together before taking a walk before dinner—they did not dine at our house—they walked home to dine—Mott has not been there much latterly, nor Huey—at first he used to be more constant—they have come to our house separately, and very often together—they left as often separately as together—both ways.

HOPPER BANKS . I am a clerk to Messrs. Prescot and Co., of Thread-needle—street. I know the prisoner Jordan—the first time I saw him was on the 3rd of April, 1834—I have a memorandum of it—he came by himself, and introduced himself by the name of John Leary—he said he had got some money, that he had lately arrived from America, and had got some money in his pocket, Which he wished to leave with us for safety—I spoke to Mr. Prescot, and he reluctantly allowed me to take it in—we have a receipt account and a cash account at our house—the receipt account is one in which the party draws money out of the sum he deposits, and gives back the receipt he has had, and takes a fresh one—the cash account is where they deposit money, and draw cheques—his was a receipt account at first—we do not take cash accounts, unless somebody introduces the party—nobody introducing him, I gave him a receipt account only—at the time of giving this receipt account, he entered his name in a book which I have here, (produced.) He at first wrote his name "John Leary"—he told me he had no lodging at that time, but he afterwards gave me his address, "St. Great Suffolk-street, Borough"—he wrote that himself—I saw him write both—he afterwards, drew out a portion of the money on the receipt account—on those occasions I took back his old receipts, and gave him back fresh ones for the balance—I always did it myself, except once—these

are the cheques be drew on the receipt account (looking at them)—this is the first receipt I gave him—it is for 700l.—he put his name on every one of them—here are five in all, four of my own—after a time, his receipt account was turned into a cash account—I did not do that myself—he afterwards drew cheques on our house—I cannot say whether he sent them ready drawn, or filled them up in my presence—these are the cheques he drew on his cash account—there are six of them—they are paid—I only paid three of them myself.

Q. Take this £50 note, No. 14803, dated the 30th of October, 1834, in your hand, and look at the name of John Leary on the front and back of it—by the Knowledge you have of Leary's handwriting, do you or not believe that to be his handwriting? A. I do; I believe the handwriting on this £20 note, No. 5439, dated the 4th of October, 1834, to be Leary's—and I believe the name of "John Leary, East—street, Kent—road," on these two £5 notes (Nos. 10375 and 6, dated the 23rd of August, 1834)to be his handwriting.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Do you form your judgment of Leary's handwriting from comparison of handwriting you see here, or from the documents themselves? A. By seeing him write and seeing the cheques—I have seen him write several times—five or six times or oftener—I am sure I have seen him write as often as that—his first account was 700l.—that was paid in April 1834—all the cheques but one bear date antecedent to the 27th of November, 1834, and that bears data on that day—I do not know any thing of the £50 note—it was never in our hands to my knowledge—Leary's account was changed to a cash account by his coming back wards and forwards several an introduction—we do not take cash accounts in the first instance, without an introduction—we changed it from the fact of his having paid money in, and his apparent regularity in paying in and drawing out.

MR. ADOLPHUS Q. You say all the cheques but one were drawn before the 27th of November, was that one drawn for the whole of the balance you had in your hands? A. I did not pay this cheque—it is dated the 27th of November—I belive we bad no money left in our hand after that cheque was paid, but Mr. Hornby will prove that—it is for £450.

BENJAMIN HORNBY . I am a clerk to Messrs. Prescot's I paid this cheque, dated the 27th of November—this was the balance of Leary's account—these are the notes in which I paid the balance(loooking at four £160 notes. and one of £50, which was No.14418, 26th of July, 1834.)

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. This £60 in one of the notes you paid to the person who drew out this money on the 27th of November, 183l? A. It is—I believe the prisoner Jordan to be the person I paid it on—I have not the least doubt of the day on which I paid it—it was on the 27th—I am quite sure I did not pay it before the 26th.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Look at these two £5 notes—did you pay them from your banking-house to any cheque drawn by Leary? A. Yes; I paid them both on the 10th of October—the cheque was dated the 10th of October, and was for 20l.—I did not pay this £20 note.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Do you know to whom you paid the two £5 notes? A. To the prisoner Jordan, I believe—I have not the least doubt of it—I do not recollect the circumstance, but I have no doubt I paid them to him.

ROBERT LAWSON . I am a clerk to Messrs. Prescot (looking at a book). I past this £20 note on the 21st of November, 1834, in payment of this

cheque drawn by Leary—I do not remember who I paid it to—this man the note, "No. 5139, dated the 4th of October, 1834.")

JOSIAH FIELD re-examined. I am a clerk at the Bank. I issued this £50 note from the Bank, on the 21st of November—it is No. 14803, dated the 30th of October, 1834—the notes for which that was exchanged were passed to me (looking at the £20 and two £5 notes).

Q. Was the £50 note issued in exchange for these notes? A. We do not take the number and dates of the notes we receive in our office—they are passed on to another office—the cash-book office—on this £5 note I have written "Leary, six notes, 50l. "—that indicates that I received six notes, making together 50l.—that the person gave that name and the note on which I wrote must have been one of the notes—the notes would go to Mr. Bock, at the cash-book office, after that.

WILLIAM BOCK . I am a clerk in the cash-book office. This £20 and two £5 notes were paid into the bank on the 21st of November, in exchange for the £50 note then issued.

CHARLES JAMES BEETSON . I am a clerk in the Bank. This p£50 note, "No. 14418, 26th July, 1834, "was brought into the Bank on the 17th of December, 1834, in exchange for sovereigns—it is the custom to require the party presenting a note for payment to write their name on the top of the front, and on that place is written, "John Leary, East-street, Kent-road"—I do not know who I paid it to—fifty sovereigns were paid for it in the name of Leary.

THOMAS WHITE . On the 22nd of November, 1834, I paid a £10 note to a person named II all—to the best of my belief this is the note—I have got the number, date, and signature, in this book—it is an entry made by myself, "No.1184, October 8, 1834, signed G. Ray."

---- HALL Mr. White paid me a £10 note on the 22nd of November, 1834)—I paid that note, to the best of my knowledge, to Mr. Walsh, at the custom-house, on the 26th November.

WILLIAM LOCK . I lived with Mr. Tullet from the 14th if February, 1834, to the 11th July, 1835—I knew the prisoner Sullivan for a short time while I lived at Tullet's—I changed a note for him between Easter and Whitsuntide, 1835—at my examination before the Magistrate, I stated that it was in July; but since I have seen the note, and thought it over, I found I was mistaken in the date—this £10 note (looking at it) is the one I changed—I know it by my writing on it, which is "Mrs. Jones, 10, North-street. William Lock."

Q. How came you to write "Mrs. Jones, 10, North-street." A. I considered he was a lodger—I asked him what name I should put on the note, and he desired me to put "Mrs. Jones, 10, North-street"—I considered he was a lodger in her house—I gave the note to Mrs. Tullet.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. You have referred to a mistake you have discovered—you say, when you saw the note first. You thought you had received it in July? A. Yes; I said it was on the 5th of July—I looked at the note at the office, but since that I have persued the note; but I had no opportunity of observing it at the office—it was put into my hands—Mr. Clarkson asked me what 5-35 meant, and I said it meant 5th of July, 1835—but since that I have seen on the face of the note, written by Beasly, "Mr. Tullett, 15-5-35"—my own name is on the note—Mr. Clarkson showed me the note in my hand—I saw my own name on it at the office—I only saw the back of the note—I did not see the face of it—it was laid before me, and I perused the back of it, but not the face—Mr.

Hobler's clerk has since shown me the note to peruse the face—he bought I had made a mistake—I intimated to him that I thought I had made a mistake—the 5-35 is Beasley's handwriting—I mistook the date when I said it meant the 5th of July, 1835—I was under examination twenty minutes or a quarter of an hour—during that time I never discovered my mistake—I did not look at the face of the note, or I should have been better aware—I have not heard since, that Sullivan could account for every minute of the day on the 5th of July.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. When you came to the office to be examined, was the note shown to you before you got there, or was it only put into your hand by me at the office? A. I was put into my hand by you at the office—it was not shown to me before, not was my attention at all directed to it.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. When did you inform Mr. Hobler's clerk you thought you had made a mistake? A. A short time after—it was before the prisoners' final examination.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Were you at the last examination? A. I was not.

FREDERICK BEASLEY . I am a publican. I received this note from Mr. Tullet on the 15th of May, 1835—I have no memorandum on it, nothing more than there is here—I have written on it" 15-5-38, and my initials, "B. F." and "Mr. Tullet"—I always reverse my initials.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Do you know Lock? A. By sight—I have spoken to him—I never shewed him this note—he has spoken to me about there being 5-35 on the note—he was speaking of it this morning—he has not spoken of it to me before—I never, before today, gave him any intimation what 5-35 meant.

JULIANA WORTHINGTON . I was formerly a widow by the name of Donaldson. Seale's wife is my sister—in November, 1834, I was at his house—Leicester was my proper home at that time—I left his house some time in December, 1834, to go to Leicester—my sister gave me a parcel to take there, and gave me directions what to do with it—pursuing those directions, I took it to Leicester, and kept it until Huey called for it—I was acquainted with him before—it was in pursuance of my sister's directions that I kept it till he called—he took it away with him—I cannot tell whether he went off to London with it immediately—it was a paper parcel—I could not feel what was under the paper—I took no particular notice of it—I cannot tell whether it was sealed—I returned it to Huey as I received it.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS. Q. you were visiting at Seale's A. Yes—I cannot tell the day I received the parcel from my sister—Seal's house is not a large not—I took my meals and sat in the same room with them—I do not remember, at any time in the month of November, there being three or four men in the house with Seale—such a thing could not have happened without my knowledge.

Q. Can you be certain such a thing never happened on a morning in November? A. I am here on my oath—I must have known if three or four men had been in Seale's house with him on any morning in November—my attention was not called to the contents of the parcel—it was a long time in my possession—it got out of my hands by accident—I sent it by mistake in a box to my dress-maker's—it did not come back to me from her—Huey called for it in the man time, and I called for it to get it, and delivered it to him.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Did you call for it before or after Huey came to

you for it? A. I went him to the milliner's to get it—it was a short distance from my house—Huey had no other business with me, except to get the parcel—I was not always at home, when I was at my brother's house—I was out several days in November, and of course could not tell what happened while I was out.

COURT. Can you speak to the latter end of the month at all, whether you were out? A. I was in town—I cannot say whether I was at home every morning, for the last week or fortnight in November.

Jordan's Defence. I am perfectly innocent—it is a fabrication of Huey's from beginning to end.

Sullivan's Defence. I have very little to say—the evidence given at Lambeth-street against me was that on the 5th of July, I changed the note—I have been at a great expense in finding out where I was that day—since Mr. Hobler and his clerks have found that I had witnesses to prove where I was on the 5th of July, they have altered it, and have brought the men, to trace the time further back Mr. Clarkson knows that the witness swore that the 5-35 was July—I have been at a great expense finding out where I was that day, and twenty or forty witnesses to prove every minute on the 5th of July—it is my opinion, Lock was not serving in the bar on the 5th of July, and he has found it out—because I sent a letter by a friend of mine, to find out whether he was there on the 5th of July, and the letter has fallen into Mr. Hobler's hands—and that states, if he was serving there on the 5th of July, to find out what time it was—I sent two letters about it to my father's house—one letter has fallen into Mr. Hobler's hands—only one letter has my father received—all Huey has said is false, from the commencement to the end.

Mott's Defence. My Lord and Gentlemen, I hope and trust you will bear in your minds the evidence of Huey—as it regards myself every thing he has stated it false—I am innocent of the charge.

Seal's Defence. I have nothing to say—I leave it in your hands, and the gentlemen of the Jury—I can only say what Huey has stated is entirely false from beginning to end.

PETER M'PHERNON . In September last I lived at No.146, Rateliff-highway, at Robinson's, an undertaker. I was at Barnet races that month—I think Tuesday was the last day of Barnet races—I do not know the day of the month—I was there the last day, and I saw the prisoners Jordan and Sullivan there—I have no recollection of seeing such a bill as this (looking at one)—I was in my own cart Jordan and Sullivan were both on horseback—when I left the races they rode upon the horseback alongside of my cart—I was in my cart, and one of them in each side—I stopped at a public-house at Holloway on my way home, and they both stopped with me—I do not know the sign—I recollect a person being there who stated that he could jump of his knees on to his feet, further than anybody else—I said he could not—they laid a wager for a glass of brandy and water, and I jumped against him and beat him—on that night the ostler said something to me insulting, but at the present moment I do not recollect the words, and I struck him in some part of the face, I do not exactly know where—and we were parted by these two persons riding their horses across us—my lad left the house with me, and those two persons on horseback—the same two persons who had rode up with me from Barnet—I know the angel at Islington—I have no recollection after leaving the house, which I consider was Young's, at Holloway—I conceive I was inebriated, and have no recollection of what passed.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. What are you by trade or business? A. A cheesemonger—I do not keep a shop—I was not keeping one then—I have a very good connexion, whom I supply—I sarve them privately, and have done so for many years—I went to Barnet races for my own pleasure—I have known Sullivan three or four years, and the other not so long—it might be two years—I knew one by the name of Thomas Sullivan, and the other I always understood to be William Sullivan—I have known Jordan, it may be year, or perhaps two from this time—I should not like to swear I have known him more than a year—he was not introduced to me by the name of William Sullivan—I never had any introduction, more than seeing him go through Whitechapel—I never had any introduction to him, nor any direct method of speaking to him till the last Barnet races—which, I think, was about the middle of September last—it is the last Barnet races I am speaking of—a lad named William Bunney was in my cart with me—he is about fifteen or sixteen years old—I had some conversation with the two persons on the road, relative to buying my horse of me—Thomas Sullivan proposed to buy it—we might have had a great deal of conversation—I have no recollection whether my boy joined in the conversation—they both spoke to me about the horse, and about buying it—I rather think my boy went into the public-house with me at Holloway—I have no recollection of his going in, but I rather think he did—the horse and the cart was outside, and I don't think it was put up, but I cannot tell—the only recollection I have afterwards is, that I came out, and got into the cart, and went directly home, as straight as I possibly could—my home was in Cannon-street-road at that time—Gentlemen, I wish to make one observation, I have lived in Ratcliff-highway for ten years, but did not live there at that time on account of a slight difference between some persons, and I lived in Cannon-street-road about eight or nine weeks—I now live at No.146, Ratcliff-highway, at the undertaker's, where I lived before—I had a quarrel with him, and went to Cannon-street-road, and now have came back—my boy was only with me there two or three days.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. How long had you lived in Ratcliff-highway before you had the disagreement and went to cannon-street? A. Nearly ten years.

WILLIAM BUNNEY . I was with M'Pherson at Barnet races, on a Tuesday in September last—I know the person of Sullivan and, I think, Jordan—I saw them at Barnet races—I went with M'Pherson in his cart—those two gentlemen were on house-back—when we left fair, they left with us—we stopped at the Mother Red Cap, at Holloway, kept by Young, on our way home, and Jordan and Sullivan also—while we were there, M'Pherson was jumping off his knees for brandy and water—the ostler said something to him, and he up with his first and struck him, and Jordan and Sullivan rode between them—when M'Pherson left the house, Jordan and Sullivan left also, on horse-back, and rode with us as far as the Angel, at Islington, and there separated—I cannot tell the day of the month on which this was.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Whose employ are you in now? A. Camber and Grave, in Philpot-lane—I had been about three months in M'Pherson's service, when I went to Barnet

races—I was with Mr. Bridgeman, a tallow-chandler, before that—M'Pherson is a cheesmonger—I went from Mr. Bridgeman to M'Pherson—he has no shop—he lives at No.146, Ratcliff Highway he lived at Mr. Drew's in Cannon-street-road about a week after I went into his service, and continued there till we went to Barnet races—that was nearly three months—I staid in his service about a month after I had been to Barnet races—he continued in Cannon-street-road during that month—I first saw Jordan and Sullivan on the race-course while we were going on, they camp up and spoke to my master about buying his horse—they appeared strangers to him—I went into the Red Cap and drank something the horse was put up—the blow was given to the ostler just as we were coming away.

GEORGE LYNN . I am under-ostler to Joseph Young. The last day of Barnet races was on a Tuesday—I cannot exactly say the day of the month—John Carter is the head-ostler—I have no knowledge of M'Pherson—I was struck by a person.

Q. Look at the four men at the bar—did you see either of them at your master's on the 8th of September last? A. Not on the 8th; it was the last day of the races—there were two persons there, but I cannot swear to either of the prisoners—I have no knowledge of them—a person came to our house that night in a cart, with a boy, and two persons came up on buy horses—they were there at the time—the ostler was leading the horse about, and I was minding the cart—I should not know the man in the cart again—I had a quarrel with him—I asked him for something for the ostler, and he was going to hit me with the whip—I let go of the horse, picked up a stone, and threw at him, and he came up and hit me—the two gentlemen on horseback, whenever they were, rode up between us—one of them offered me some half-pence afterwards to get something to drink, and I would not have it who they were I do not know.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Did the gentleman come back on foot to hit you, or how? A. On foot—he was sober enough to hit me if he had not been prevented—the boy laid still in the cart—there was not much company in the house—there were several persons there besides the two gentleman on horseback—I was not in the house—the horse and cart was not put up—it stood in the road.

JOSEPH YOUNG. I keep the Mother Red Cap at Holloway, and have done so for ten years. The last day of Barnet races last year was on Tuesday, the 5th of September—I gave this bill of the races to Mr. Humphreys, the attorney, for the prisoners—I was at home on the last day of Barnet races—Jordan and Sullivan were there that night—they called at my house on their way to the races—I had gone up to dress in the morning from ten to eleven o'clock, and they were taking refreshment in the kitchen when I cam down—I know Mr. Alpha and his wife—they came there in a one-horse chaise while Jordan and Sullivan were taking refreshment—many persons called on their way to the races—Jordan and Sullivan went away on horseback—I went to the races myself in a one-horse chaise—my brother James went with me—I saw both of the prisoners at the races, riding on horseback, and I saw them in the booths—I saw M'Pherson at the races—that was the first time I saw him—it was a very wet day indeed—I left directly the races were over, to be at home before the company—I got home, I should think, about seven o'clock—after I got home, both Jordan and Sullivan came about eight o'clock, on horseback—M'Pherson came in his cart, with a boy there was a wager of a glass of brandy and water, about jumping from his knees to his feet—M'Pherson won—I know White, of Kentish town, I believe he was there—Jordan and Sullivan left as near eleven o'clock as possible, as we were shutting up at the time—Carter, my principal, walked their horses about, the under ostler was minding the cart I was at the door when M'Pherson went away—I was not near

enough to see whether he paid the under-ostler; but I observed him hit him with the whip, and the under-ostler threw a stone at him—he then left the cart in the road with the boy, and returned and struck the lad on the nose I think, for he was bleeding, and the two gentlemen on horseback rode in between them, and parted them—I had seen Jordan and Sullivan perhaps once or twice before, but not to know them—I saw them once afterwards I think at Croydon fair.

Q. Are you perfectly sure, or do you entertain a doubt that these are the men? A. I have not the least doubt in the world of it—this is a bill of the races.

MR. CHAMBERS. Q. How often have you seen them since the Barnet races? A. About three times, or hardly that—I don't know that I have ever seen hem since, but at Croydon fair, which was about the 3rd of October, I think, but I am not positive to the day, if I have, it is not more than once, to know them—I saw them yesterday in court, in the morning part, when Mr. Forrester gave me an order signed Mr. Sheriff Lainson—it was about eleven or twelve o'clock, I believe—I was here perhaps half an hour—I was in and out several times in the course of the day—I did not hear the evidence for the prosecution—the reason I left was because I could not get beyond the bar—I did not know the names of the persons when they were at my house—I am not the Richard Young who is the clerk of the course—the names of the two persons were mentioned at my house in the evening, but I think both went by the name of Sullivan—I understood them both to be called Mr. Sullivan—I was at Barnet races the year before—I did not see them there then—nor M'Pherson—I did not know him till that day—I have seen him once since, that was yesterday—he was not pointed out to me—at least I knew him the moment I saw him, from his conduct that night—I was in the room the principal part of the time the parties were there—I do not go to many races—sometimes to Epsom and Ascot, and generally to our own races—I go to very few fairs, I went to Croydon fair for pleasure—I was at Fairlop fair last year for pleasure, and it was for pleasure that I went to Ascot and Epsom—my family look after the business when I am away.

FREDERICK ALMER. My brother keeps the Coach and Horses, in St. John-street. I was at his house on the last day of Barnet races in September last—I saw the two farthest prisoners (Jordan and Sullivan) at my brother's that night, about half past eleven o'clock—from eleven o'clock to half-past—they took something—they were in company—they came on horse-back, and remained about two hours, and left on horse-back—I recollect that Jordan and his horse fell down together—I should day he had taken rather more than I should like to take myself generally—I helped him up again—I should think the horse had injured him—he complained of some part of his limbs being injured by the horse falling down on him—I went with them when they went away—I went on Jordan's horse—I rode in front of him—I think I had got on Jordan's horse before he fell off—the natural consequence of his coming down was my coming down too—I got up again and went to the Saloon in Piccadilly—Frederick Chandler is my brother's barman—I know Samuel Evans—he is called Dutch Sam, the pugilist—I believe he was at the Saloon that morning—we remained there till about six o'clock in the morning—Jordan and Sullivan remained there till I left—they then mounted their horses and left.

FREDERICK CHANDLER . I was barman to Mr. Almer, who keeps the Coach and Horses, in St. John-street, in September last, I recollect Jordan and Sullivan coming there the last day of Barnet races—they went away

about half-past one or two o'clock—they had some brandly and water to drink—Frederick Almer was there at the time, and went away with them—went on horse-back—I am not in Almer's service now.

WILLIAM LOWDEN . I am a watchmaker, and live in Great Surrey-street, Blackfriars-road. I have seen the further prisoner (Jordan)—I know this watch (looking at one)—I have had it through my hands to repair for the further prisoner—I do not know him by name—not by any name—the last time I had it I entered it in my book—the entry is my own—it is the maker's name—it came into my hands between the 8th and 14th of September—I should say about the 11th or 12th—I received it from the prisoner at the bar—the heading of the page of my book commences on the 8th of September, and the heading on the next, the 14th—it must have been done between the 8th and the 14th—this is the last item on the page—I have not taken down the number, but the maker's name—I was paid 2s. 6d. for what I did to it—I can tell the day it was returned: here is 1253 in the margin of the book, and on turning to that No. in another book, I find entered, "Friday, 18th of September" it was returned then, and 2s. 6d. paid; I know that from the corresponding number and 2s. 6d. being the same No. as is entered in the margin of the entry—the entry is my own writing—I know nothing of the man, except being employed by him—I have not seen him since, to my recollection—I have been a watchmaker and housekeeper above twenty years.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. I see this watch is entered in this book very low in the page, quite at the bottom? A. Yes, it is; the book does not denote the time I received the watch—this memorandum was made when it was repaired—it might be in my house three or four days before it was repaired—the entry does not indicate when it came in—I cannot say when it was brought to me—I do not know what was done to it; it was some trifling job, I believe—it is possible it might have been brought on the 14th and repaired the same day, but more likely a few days previous.

JOHN CARTER . In September last I was head ostler in Mr. Young, who keeps the Mother Red Cap, at Holloway. I remember Tuesday, the last day of Barnet races, attending two gentleman who came on horse-back—they left to go to the races; and returned in the evening on the same two horses—I remember a man coming with a cart—George Lynn was the under ostler—he had the care of the cart—Lynn was struck by the whip., instead of being paid, by the man in the cart—he jumped out of the cart, and came to him and struck him on his head—the two gentleman with the saddle-horses interfered to separate them—I cannot tell who they were—I cannot announce whether the prisoner were either of the gentlemen on horse-back.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Did the persons on horseback go away on their horses? A. Yes.

WILLIAM FAIRCLOTH . I am a searcher of goods at the Custom-horse and docks, and a landing-waiter. When a man is employed as landing-waiter to a vessel, there is a regular paper called an appearance-paper, kept at the different stations, for cach man on duty to write his name, and the time at which he comes—it shows the time at which he leaves in the afternoon—the sheets are made up to consist of the six days of the week—they are certified by certain persons, as to the regularity of the papers at the close of the week—I know Seale, and know his handwriting.

Q. Look at the appearance-sheet, and tell me whether, on Friday, the

28th of November, you find he is entered as coming there, and at what time? A. I have it—from the sheet I should say he was there at nine o'clock, and left at four—the sheet is certified by the persons whose duty it is to certify the truth of it—Leach and Findley are the officers who certify—the person who is stated to be there at nine o'clock, must have been there punctually at that time, or before.

MR. BODKIN. Q. The paper shows he signed his name at nine o'clock and at four—you cannot gather from that, that he was there the whole of that time? A. Certainly not—I know that a person named Cater. a landing-waiter, did his duty for him that day—I have no knowledge of Seale's leaving after he signed the paper—I did not see him.

COURT. Q. All you know is, he has signed his name there? A. Yes. MR. BODKIN. Q. When Seale was there, would his duty bring him to the place where you were employed? A. I did not see him that day—if he was on duty that day, he would have to perform his duty where I was—he was not at the ship that he was appointed to that day, which was the Two Brothers—I superintended that day, and he was not there—Cater was.

MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS. Q. What time did you go to the Two Brothers? A. I imagine about eleven or twelve o'clock—I cannot be certain of the time, but I should say in the forenoon—I did not remain there till four o'clock I have the jurisdiction of the whole dock—I was not in the Two Brothers at all, not on board—Seal's business would not be in the ship, but on the quay, in a box—I was superintending all the ships in the dock that day, going round the dock—I left my duty at four o'clock—Cater is here—I cannot tell whether it was before or after twelve that I went.

JOHN CATER examined by MR. BODKIN. I am in the employment of the Custom-house. I remember the morning the robbery was discovered, the 28th of November—I know Seale—he was at the Custom-house at nine o'clock that morning—I did not see him again till two o'clock in the afternoon—I did his duty for him that day.

MR. PAYNE. Q. Do you mean to say you were appointed to do Seale's duty that day? A. I did it—he did no duty at the Two Brothers that day—I have always said so—I have never given a different account of the transaction—I never said that I did no part of the duty that was to be done by Seale—I did not see him at my station till two o'clock in the afternoon, or between one and two—there were two parts of business done that day, the examination of toys, and the landing of calf-skins—the toys would be examined in front of the box where the calf-skins were weighed on the quay—I will swear Seale did not examine toys that day—he came back to the station at two o'clock, but did nothing that day that, I swear.

Q. Have you never said you could not swear Seale was not there up to twelve o'clock in the forenoon of that day? A. No, I am speaking of my station that I was doing duty at—the Two Brothers—I said he was not there till past twelve o'clock—I think I said after one o'clock—I never said that I could not swear Seale was not there till twelve o'clock—I say he was not there.

(The witness's deposition being read agreed with his evidence.)

Thomas Hodges—John Emmett, market-gardener, Old Kent-road; Henry Butcher, Clarence-row, Camberwell; Joseph Thomas Wilthow, publican, Addington-square; John Marks, tailor, Old Kent-road; Bryan Lenton, Southampton-street,; Thomas Titcomb, Packham,; John Freeman, Albany-road, Camberwell; Matthias Butler, Kent-road; Hugh Eastman, ship-broker, Kalsall-place, Kent-road; and

Thomas Jacks, innkeeper, Kent-road, deposed to the prisoner Seale's good character.

George Seal, farmer, Limswell Surrey, the withess, Mr. Billing; Benjamin Capper; John Fairfax Chinnery; John Gouldham, clerk in the Custom-house; Thomas Clay, merchant, Doughty-street; John Colson, clerk in the Custom-house; Charles Wilkinson, agent, Clapham; Thomas Agar, Perkin's-buildings, Lambeth; James Cook, surgeon, York-road, Lambeth; Thomas Tanner, of the Custom-house; Robert Foster, Custom-house agent; George Bunney, clerk in the Custom-house; Hutchinson Brown, of the Custom-house; Thomas Salter; John Tillotson; John Poole; and Benjamin Dudfield, Custom-house agent, deposed to the prisoner Mott's good character.



MOTT— GUILTY . Aged 34.

SEALE— GUILTY . Aged 38.

Recommended to mercy on account of their previous good character.

Transported for Life.

Fourth July, before Mr. Recorder.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-703
VerdictsGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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703. WILLIAM BOWES was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of February, 2 glass bottles, value 4d.; and 1 pint of soda-water, value 4d.; the goods of John Carter Lucas; and JAMES COULSON was indicted for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing it to be stolen; against the statute, &c.

JOHN CARTER LUCAS . I live in Aldersgate-street. Bowes was in my employ for about twelve months, principally as a sugar-pounder for the manufacture of lozenges—he had 15s. a week standing wages, and 3d. on hour for over hours, which averaged 1l. a week—I know this soda-water bottle by a small private mark on the bottom of it, which I put on it, having suspicion.

THOMAS LUCAS . I live with my brother. On the 5th of February, I was concealed in the liquorice cellar—the soda water was kept in an adjoining cellar in a chest—I saw Bowes come down, enter the cellar, and take from the chest two bottles of soda water—I had marked fifteen of the bottles in that chest—this is one of them—it contained about half-a-print of soda water.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON Q. They have been three weeks in custoday? A. Since the 9th of February—I know nothing of Coulson—we do not manufacture soda-water.

CHARLES STUTTLE FLETCHER . I am an officer. I found the soda-water bottle produced at Coulson's shop—there was no soda-water in it—I had no conversation with him about it—he keeps a marine-store shop in Peter's-lane, Cow-cross-street—it was with other soda-water bottles.

Bowes. I did not take it to Coulson's not from the chest.

JOHN CARTER LUCAS , re-examined. He had no business at the chest—if it was wanted for she he would not have to fetch it.

THOMAS LUCAS re-examined. I missed on soda-water bottle from the chest, and two from another part of the cellar—only twelve remained—I am certain I saw him take one from the chest—I did not stop him as I wanted to find the receiver—he left the cellar directly—I went up in about ten minutes, hearing a stop cross the shop—it was about half-past eight o'clock in the morning.

BOWES— GUILTY . Aged 39.


29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-699a
VerdictsGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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699. WILLIAM BOWES was again indicted for stealilng, on the 9th of February 9lbs. weight of sugar, value 10s. the goods of John Carter Lucas, his master; and JAMES COULSON for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing it to be stolen.

JOHN CARTER LUCAS . I am a druggist and lozenge manufacturer, in Aldersgate-street. The prisoner Bowes was in my employ up to the 9th of February—I lost some loaf-sugar—the sugar-baker puts a number on the paper it is in—they put no mark besides the number—here is the paper—the whole lot that comes to my premises was marked the same generally, particularly of this quality—the mark is altered every day—this is No. 56—I may have had several Nos. 56, I cannot tell—I lost a quantity of sugar market 56, I believe, but it is impossible to miss even a hundred weight—I have a paper here belonging to a loaf of sugar which came in at the same time with the same mark—it was a very fine quality—it cost 130s., a hundred weight—about 1s. 2d. a pound—the colour is the principal indication of the quality and its hardness, it is almost traceparent, and very full of crystals.

SIMON MORTLOCK . I was on a visit to the prosecutor—on the 9th of February, about a quarter before eight o'clock in the morning, I was hid behind some hampers in a back place on Mr. Lucas's premises, and saw Bowes go into the suger-room and take a loaf of fine sugar out—he went into the powdering room with it—he party closed the door after him, so that I could not see what he did—he came out in about half a minute with a sieve in his hand and went into the shop—Thomas Lucas came to me in about a quarter of an hour, and I came out from behind the hampers—we could not find the sugar anywhere—he was not in the powdering room half a minute, and if he had powdered it the door was sufficiently open that I could have seen him do it—he does that with a pestle and mortar.

Prisoner. I took it into the hot room to dry. Witness. He could not have done so without my seeing him—I suppose the loaf of sugar was in the sieve when he brought it out—he went out into the shop as if he was going into the street—that would not lead him to the hot room.

Prisoner. I put the sugar outside the door while I went up into the hot room—there is a long passage, and if he was behind the hamper he could not see into the shop. Witness. The passage leads into the shop—the hot room is quite a contrary way—I am certain he did not take the sugar out of the sieve and take it into the hot room—there was a young man watching up in the hot room—he is not here—his named is Grant.

JOHN FOOTMAN . I was a policeman, G 159—I resigned three weeks ago—I lived at Great Saffron-hill at that time—on the 9th of February I apprehended Bowes, at Peter's-lane Cow-cross, at the prisoner Coulson's—Coulson was standing behind the counter at the time—I saw the Seales and some loaf-sugar in the Seale—it was about a quarter-past eight o'clock or between that and half-past, as near as possible—my brother constable took possession of the sugar in the seale—Bowes was standing against the counter, in front of the sugar—it was in the seale before I went in—I did not observe Coulson do any thing with the sugar—I asked them what game they were going on with—Coulson them turned round and took out a larger piece of sugar from behind the counter, and said there was some more which he bad bought of the prisoner, and the paper with the "No. 28" was on it—I asked him if he had bought any thing besides the sugar of the prisoner—he said he had bought bottles at different times

of him—it is a marine store-shop, not a place for the sale of sugarhe said he considered it was all right—I told him he knew it was not right, as on the morning previous I had seen Bowes go into the shop with his sieve under this arm—he went up a court, and then came back, and Coulson let him in directly—this was the day before—I went and tried the door and found it fastened—I have seen him for different times go there—there was a piece of paper round the larger piece of sugar, with"No. 56" on it—Coulson said he bought that of Bowes—Bowes made no answer to that whatever—I took possession of the sugar, and ordered Bowes to the station-house.

Bowes. I was at the station-house when that piece of sugar was found. Witness. He was present when the sugar was produced, with the paper round it—Fletcher found another piece of sugar afterwards—there were two other pieces in the sieve—the sieve was not in the Seale—after coming from the station-house another piece of sugar was found in the back parlour, but that had no paper round it.

CHARLES STUTTLE FLETCHER (police-constable G 8.) On the 9th of February, I was in Coulson's shop after Bowes was taken into custody—I got there about ten minutes before nine o'clock—Coulson was in the back parlour when I got there, at breakfast; but Bowes was in custody at the station-house—I went into the back parlour, and in a cupboard there found seven bottles and two pieces of sugar—there was no paper or mark on them—there was no appearance of sugar being sold there.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. What is the weight of that sugar? A. I never weighed it—it does not weigh nine pounds.

HENRY BROOKS I am a policeman. I came into the shop and took the sugar out of the seale—it was about ten minutes after eight o'clock—I think Coulson's is about ten minutes walk from the prosecutor's—this bit was in the seale—the other pieces of sugar do not match.

JOHN CARTER LUCAS re-examined. This is the paper produced—fine sugar is always wrapped in this sort of paper—after leaving the office, I looked at the paper on a loaf of a similar quality, and found the same number—this sugar is not all of one quality—a loaf weighs from nine to thirty-six pounds—a loaf of this fine sugar weighs eight or nine pounds.

SIMON MORTLOCK re-examined It was a loaf of the fine size I saw him take from the sugar-room—I saw him take a loaf of this size.

Bowes's Defence That is not Mr. Lucas's sugar—I took it to Coulson to weight it, and a soda-water bottle to sell—I asked him to weigh the sugar for me, but not to sell it—it is my own sugar—I had had it about a fortnight Mr. Lucas had not above half a loaf of that fine sugar in his house at the time, and I put that in paper, and put it in a box—I told Mr. Lucas, two or three days before this happened, that we were quite out of this sugar, and he said we should have some more in—as to the other sugar found at Coulson's, I know nothing about it.

MR. LUCAS re-examined. The soda-water-bottle was found on the same occasion—he certainly told me we should want sugar, that we were out of that sugar, but in the morning, when I went home, I found a loaf of it left.

MR. CLARKSON Q. Will you undertake to swear to this piece of sugar? A. it is impossible—the quality corresponds: and I believe the other to be nine by the paper on it—there is not a grocer with in half a mile of me sells such sugar as this—it is patent sugar.

Bowes. The paper is Mr. Lucas's I took it to light my fire, and

wrapped the sugar in it—another man was taken up the same day as me.

MR. LUCAS My porter was taken before the Alderman the same day. Coulson's Defence. I never purchased anything of this man with any guilty knowledge whatever.

(Thomas White, a carpentor, and Thomas Russell, a grocer, of Peter's-lane, Cow-cross, gave the prisoner Coulson a good character.)


Confined Six Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-700a
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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700. JOHN THOMAS REALL was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of February, 1 chair, value 16s., the goods of Ebenezer Groffman.

FRANCIS BAYMAN I am a French polisher, and live in old Gravel-lane, I work for Ebenezer Groffman, a cabinet-maker, in Cannon-street-road—on the 12th of February, I finished a mahogany child's chair, the property of Mr. Groffman—I afterwards heard a noise in the front shop—I went into the shop and missed the chair—I went outside, and could not see any one—I turned into the Commercial-road, and about twenty yards down the road I saw the prisoner carrying it—I brought him back, and he said a man was going to give 3d., to carry the chair—I ran out directly I heard the noise—I stopped him twelve or fourteen doors round the corner—the chair had been inside the shop.

EBENEZER GROFFMAN I am a cabinet-maker, and live in Cannon-street-road. This chair is my property—I bought it of a man—Bayman only polished it for me on my premises—the prisoner told me he was to have 3d. for carrying it—it was just within the shop.

GUILTY .* Aged 16.— Transported for Seven years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-701a
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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701. JOHN TUCKER was indicted for stealing, on the 7th of February 1 tame rabbit, value 10s.; and 2 fowls, value 5s.; the goods of William Whittaker.

WILLIAM WHITAKER I am a tin-plate worker, and live in Compton-street, Clerkenwell. I had a rabbit and two fowls, the rabbit was with young, and was worth ten shillings—I lost them in the evening between five and six o'clock, on Saturday the 7th, from a hutch, out of a shed—it was quite safe, and buttoned, they could not get into the street—I afterwards saw them in possession of Thomas Wright—the prisoner lodged in my house at the time, and knew where the fowls and rabbits were kept.

THOMAS WRIGHT I am a dealer in rabbits, fowls, and pigeons, and live in Peter-street, Cow-cross I bought the rabbit and fowls of the prisoner; the fowls on the Thursday, and the rabbit on the Saturday—they were claimed on the Sunday morning—I gave 1s. 3d. for the rabbit, and sold it directly after for 2s—I did not perceive it was with young—I sold it to a man named Matthews, but it was in my possession when Whittaker came on Sunday.

JOHN WHITHERFORD I am a policeman. I apprehended the prisoner—he said he had sold the rabbit to the same person as he had sold the fowls to—I should rather think he was in distress.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined One Month.

First Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-702a
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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702. JAMES SULLY was indicted for stealing, on the 9th of Febrauary, 5 locks, value 1l.; 55 tiles, value 17s.; 14 screw tools, value 17s.; 25 chisels, value 14s.; 20 taps, value 14s.; 21 turning screw, value 13s.; 25 lbs. of steel, value 17s.; 17 hooks and eyes, value 12s.; 27 drills, value 12s.; 500 screw, value 9s.; 4 squares, value 8s.; 4 hammers, value 6s.; 46 bolts, value 4s.; 56 nuts, value 3s.; 2 pairs of spring dividers, value 4s.; 1 pair of compasses, value 3s.; 3 rimers, value 7s.; 30 wooden handles, value 3s.; 1 drill brace, value 3s.; 2 grinders, value 3s.; 1 mandrill, value 2s.; 8 iron springs, value 3s.; 6 punches, value 2s.; 1 pair of tongs, value 1s.; 2 screw bolts, value 1s.; 1 breast-plate, value 1s.; 1 locket, value 1s.; 21 lbs. of brass, value 1s.; 2 lbs. of copper, value 1s. 6d.; 9 sheets of emery paper, value 6d.; 9 sheets of glass paper, value 6d.; 1 ladle, value 6d.; 2 brass castings, value 2d.; the goods of Robert Dewer and another his masters.

MR. CLARKSON Conducted the prosecution.

ROBERT DEWER . I am in partnership with my brother, Ebenezer Dewer. We are founders and smiths, and live in Old-street—we make tools—the prisoner was our apprentice for nearly five years—in the course of the last two years I have missed a great many tools—in consequence of information which I received on Thursday, the 11th of February, I went to the station-house and got two constables—Warton, another of my apprentices, accompanied me—Pierce at that time was a workman of mine, and lived at No. 8, Wilson-street, Old-street-road—I went to that house with Warton and the two policemen, and in the lower room of that house I found a quantity of tools on the floor, and some in a box—I knew some of them to be ours—I selected such as I knew, and gave Pierce into custody—after that I took a constable back with me to my own manufactory, and took the prisoner into custody—I told him I believed he had got some of my tools—he said he had not—he afterwards said he had got some of them—I said I had found some of our tools at Pierce's house, and Pierce had said they belonged to Sully—the prisoner said he had not got any of our tools—that he had not taken any of out tools—I said Pierce said he had taken them, and that they were at Pierce's house—he said he had made some tools and taken them home with him, but he had made them in his own time—most of the tools I found at Pierce's had marks, but a chisel had my name on it—it was not present when I was speaking to him—there were screws among the tools and I know them by the paper they were wrapped in, the hand-writing of out clerk, who has left us, was on the paper—the prisoner had no authority to carry away any tools or articles from the premises, nor any authority to make tools on the premises.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. How long has Pierce been in your employment? A. I think about three or four months—he was in our employ at that time, and had the same opportunities of taking things as the prisoner—I believe some of the articles were produced to Sully—I cannot tell—I do not think the chisel was—we had not found all the tools at that time—a great portion of the things were left at Pierce's—I am not quite certain whether any tools were produced to the prisoner—these things were missed at various times; in fact, they were hardly kissed till we found them, we have such a number of tools—I missed a small tap called a bob before I found them—we missed them from time to time—there are two bolts which I had seen about a fortnight or three weeks before—I may not have seen some of the things for months before.

MATTHEW PLAK (police-constable G 98). I accompanied Mr. Dewer to Pierce's house, and assisted in removing property found there to the stations-house.

JOHN PIERCE . I live at No. 8 Wilson-street, Old-street. I was in Mr. Dewer's employ for about three months—the prisoner and I worked together at the shop—about a fortnight previous to the discovery of these tools he told me he had got a great quantity of tools at Exeter—I asked him particularly if they belonged to him—he said he had bought the best part of them, and some his father had made—and he asked if I would allow him to bring them to my house—I said, if they all belonged to him I should have no objection—he said he would write a letter on the following Saturday night, and take it to his cousin the afterwards said he took the letter down himself to his cousin at the water-side) he came back to my house on the same Saturday night—I asked him if he took the letter—he said he did, that he had been onboard a long while, and had some wine and grog on board—he said the vessel was going to start the following day, and the tools were to come up the following week from Exeter—and on the following Monday week he told me the tools had been sent in a cart to Helmet-row—he asked if I would allow him to bring them to my house on the following Tuesday—he said he had been to a friend of his in Helmet-row, and all the tools had arrived—my house was afterwards searched—the tools had come to my house on the Tuesday night after the conversation on the Monday—I met the prisoner by appointment that night at the corner of Helmet-row—I engaged a truck and took Warton with me—the prisoner took me to a court in Helmet-row—to Harding's—and I assisted him out of the cellar with a box of tools into the truck—there was one good-sized box, and to the best of my knowledge two or three small ones—I took them to my house, and the prisoner unlocked them and put the tools on the ground—I had requested Warton to come with me to watch the truck from Helmet-row to my house, and to come in half an hour afterwards—I took Warton there, that if the tools belonged to Mr. Dewer he might give information—I took him as a witness—I had spoken to him on the Monday previous—I had a suspicion that they belonged to Mr. Dewer—when Warton came in, Sully saw him, and exclaimed, "I am done"—Warton said he had instructions from Mr. Dewer to come and inspect the tools, and if any resistance took place he would call a constable—it was a previous arrangement between Warton and me that he should say so—the prisoner begged of us not to tell—I requested Warton to come with me and acquaint Mr. Dewer his tools were in my house—Warton said he did not like that—I then proposed that the property should go back—and the prisoner said he would take all Mr. Dewer's property back—the property was selected the following evening—the prisoner filled all his pockets with the tools, which he said belonged to Mr. Dewer, and said he should take them all back to the shop the next morning—I took a great number of drills and turning tools from my house to Mr. Dewer's and put them into my cupboard—I was taken into custody the same day—I put them into my cupboard at Mr. Dewer's factory—the apprentice came to me that morning and asked if I had brought any tools back. and I believe on the following Friday a policeman took them—I put a mark on them—Mr. Dewer produced a chuck in the shop at the same time, and the drills fitted it—Mr. Dewer came to my house on Thursday, the 16th of February, I believe—I did not know the tools when I saw them seattered on my floor.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. How long have you been in Mr. Dewer service yourself? A. About three months—I was in Mr. Jackley's a machine-maker, for about four years before that—I left him in

consequence of the slackness of the trade, that was the only reason—I did not tell Mr. Dewer of this, because I did not like to implicate the prisoner—out of compassion—I desired Warton to go and do it—I did not like to do it myself, that was my only reason—the tools were brought to my premises on Tuesday night, it was arranged by the prisoner and Warton, that all the tools were to go back by Thursday, and I was to help them—I did not know for a certainty that they were stolen at the time I put them into my cupboard—I had a strong suspicion.

Q. Did you give one word of information to reach Mr. Dewer, till you yourself were taken up as the thief, the things being found in the cupboard, and part at your house? A. No; I did not—there are two bolts I can almost swear to; but Mr. Dewer makes so many of this sort, that I cannot say I can swear to them—I told Sully that I had requested Warton to inform of it—when the tools were brought to my house, I said he had a great number of tools—he said yes, and I think he said he would not take 100l. for all he had got—I asked him if all the tools belonged to him, and he said they did belong to him—I said nothing to him that night about acquainting Mr. Dewer of it—when they were all out on the floor, I said I had a strong suspicion they belonged to Mr. Dewer; and he said he would take all the property back, that night—I am sure of that, and also on Wednesday night—Warton was present—I believe he said that after I had told Warton to inform Mr. Dewer—the prisoner did not hear me tell Warton to inform Mr. Dewer—I whispered it to him on the Tuesday night—I spoke very low—I requested Warton to come with me and acquaint Mr. Dewer of it, as he had more influence with Mr. Dewer than I had, and I thought it better for him to come with me—he said he did not like—if he had consented, I think I should have gone.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Before you went to help him with the tools from the trunk, had you spoken to Warton, and asked him to come there to watch? A. I had, on the previous Monday.

GEORGE WARTON . I am an apprentice to Messrs. Dewer. I received information from Pierce on Monday, the 8th of February, and went to his house on the following Tuesday, about half-past eight o'clock in the evening—I saw some tools on the floor—I had made an arrangement with Pierce what I was to do; in consequence of which, when I came into the room, I told the prisoner I was authorized by Mr. Dewer to come and examine the tools—I was not—the prisoner saud, "I am done"—before that I had been with Pierce, to hire a truck, and saw it taken to the corner of Helmet-row—I had been watching for the purpose, and saw the prisoner join Pierce—they went up a court in Helmet-row—I observed them come out with the truck, and go to Pierce's house; and after that I went there about half-past eight o'clock, according to arrangement—when the prisoner said, "I am done"—he asked me what I had come there for—I took up some of the tools, and said they belonged to Mr. Dewer—the prisoner said they did not, he had bought them—I said I knew they were Mr. Dewer's—he afterwards confessed that they were so—I saw a chisel with the name on it, and pointed it out, and he said he took it from the shop—Pierce said they should not be in his house—Pierce asked me to come with him to acquaint Mr. Dewer—I refused, because I thought if the tools were taken back by little and little, Mr. Dewer would know nothing about it, and he would have his property back again—I persuaded the prisoner to take them back—I first mentioned this to Mr. Dewer on the Thursday—I afterwards

saw some tools at the factory—I did not see who brought them back.

COURT. Q. How do you know they were the same? A. I saw Pierce sort some out on the Wednesday evening, and he brought them out on Thursday.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did you see them at the factory afterwards? A. Yes—some drills—Pierce carried them to the factory—I afterwards saw Mr. Dewer apply the drills to some chisels which he had, and they fitted—I accompanied Mr. Dewer and the policeman to Pierce's house—they took what Mr. Dewer identified, and left the rest in charge of the policeman—I know the chisel to be Mr. Dewer's.

Cross-examined. Q. Was it not Pierce himself that went to procure the truck, to take the things to Old-street? A. Yes—Pierce's room is about eight feet square—Pierce and the prisoner and I were on very good terms—we spoke openly together about the tools—the prisoner said he would take them back the next day.

Q. I believe Pierce told you to go and tell Mr. Dewer if he did not? A. Yes, he said he would take them back, sooner than that should happen—the prisoner did not hear what Pierce said to me about telling Mr. Dewer, that was done by ourselves—Pierce did not offer to go with me that night to inform Mr. Dewer, in the prisoner's presence—he whispered that into my ear—he said, "Will you come with me to Mr. Dewer tonight, and acquaint him of it?"—I said, "No"—I did not want to see him punished—the prisoner slept on Mr. Dewer's premises—I told the man who worked with me of it—I did not tell Mr. Dewer—the man's name is Mason—he is not here—I had known Pierce about two months—he worked there about three months, to the best of my knowledge—I had been to his house two or three times—I got the truck from Old-street—I do not know the number—it was a broker's.

GEORGE HANDING . I live at No. 16, Helmet-row, St. Luke's. I have known the prisoner about five years—in the course of last summer he told me he had some tools deposited at Dawson's, in Old-street, part belonging to him, and some belonging to his father; and in consequence of a misunderstanding, he wished to remove them, and put them into my cellar, which I granted—and he brought, in my presence, one box and two tin boxes, but I do not know the contents—they remained at my house till the 9th of February, when the prisoner came between seven and eight o'clock, and said he came to fetch the tools away to a shopmate's house in Hackney-road—I did not see them removed, being busy at the time—I afterwards found they were gone—they had never been removed from my premises before from the time they were brought there.

Cross-examined. Q. How long before they were taken away had you seen them? A. Not within a fortnight, I should think—I cannot tell whether they had been opened in that time—the prisoner brought them to my house either in June or July.

THOMAS; HARDING . I am the father of last witness, and board with him, and lodge in his house. I remember the prisoner bringing the tools to my son's—I suppose the prisoner was there five or six times between the tools coming and being taken away—I have given him a light, and seen him go down and put the things away when he has brought them—he went into the cellar where the boxes were.

Cross-examined. Q. You did not go with him? A. No, I cannot

tell what he did—he appeared going to look at the boxes—he had nothing with him that I saw.

COURT. Q. Did you never see him with any article, when he came or went from your house? A. Yes, he had things in his pocket, and went into the cellar, and put them out—I did not observe what it was he had—I have never sworn that I did—I gave him a light to take the things down which he brought in his pocket—they were a kind of screws or something—I cannot say what—he brought some in his hat—I cannot say what tools they were.

ROBERT DEWER re-examined. I told the prisoner that I had found some tools at Pierce's, and that Pierce said they belonged to him—he said he had not taken any at first, but afterwards said he had taken some, and that he had made some and taken them too—I found a great quantity of tools at Pierce's—I can speak positively to this tap or hob—my father had it many years before me—I cannot tell when I last saw it on the premises—here are a parcel of screws, which bear the date July 19, 1834, and the name of Knight, written on the paper by one of the clerks—I cannot say when I last saw them—here are two brass bushes, which I have every reason to believe are mine, by the dimensions of them—I cannot say we have lost them, because we keep a stock by us—here is a pair of spring dividers, which I am certain are mine—I cannot say when I had seen them last—here is a chisel, with my name partly obliterated—it is one of the prisoner would be likely to use—here is a screw tool—I cannot say when I saw this last—it is my property—I never sold it—I know then two bolts to be my property—I lost them about a fortnight before—I found them at Pierce's.

Cross-examined. Q. When was it that Pierce said some of the tools belonged to the prisoner? A. When I saw Pierce at his house, on Thursday, he said they did not belong to him, they belonged to the prisoner—that was at the moment I discovered them.

COURT. Q. When was it you found the drills in the possession of Pierce, in the cupboard? A. My brother found them the next day after I had taken them—Pierce had given me no information at all—they were tools Pierce and his mate used.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you hear Pierce give his evidence as to how the things got there? A. Yes; he said he took them back, and put them in the manufactory—he did not tell me he took them back—he has said so here—I understood that he took them back to the cupboard.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did you make my comparison of the drills with a chuck? A. Yes, and they fitted—I got the chuck from my own manufactory—this is one of the drills I understand Pierce had brought back—I got it at the police-office—I believe the policeman took it from Pierce—I did not see it taken from him.

HENRY M'GFFS . I am in Mr. Dewer's employ. I made the screws and bolts produced—I missed them about a fortnight before they were lost.

Cross-examined. Q. You have made a great many? A. I made sixty, and there were two missing—they are nut and screw—this is a screw-bolt.

GEORGE DAY . I am foreman to Messrs. Dewer. Here are a pair of compasses which I know—they are the property of Mr. Dewer—I used them myself—they bear my initials—there are several chisels which I knew by the make of them, and having used them—they are my employee's.

MATHEW PEAK . I am an officer. I accompanied Mr. Dewer to

Pierce's house, and removed the property to the station-house—I have produced it now—I told the prisoner I was going to take him for stealing a quantity of tools belonging to Mr. Dewer—he said he had not taken them—Mr. Dewer said he found a great many at Pierce's house—he then said he had brought some—Mr. Dewer said, "did you buy any screw tools or taps?"—he said, "No, I have made some in my own time—my dinner time—my leisure time—out of your stuff, Sir"—he said he had taken some—Mr. Dewer mentioned screw tools, and he said, "I have taken some."

EVAN DAVIS . I am an officer. I accompanied the policeman to Mr. Dewer's—I was not present when Peak told him what he was charged with.

ROBERT DEWER re-examined. This is a screw-bolt and nut—I found a great many screw tools at Pierce's—I should think from fifteen to twenty.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. When did you miss these brass things? A. I cannot say—I remember seeing these two bolts on the premises within a fortnight—sixty were ordered, and when I wanted to send them home there were only fifty-eight—the two were found in the box at Pierce's house—Warton was with me there—I did not know where Pierce lived till Warton showed me.

Prisoner's Defence. I did not know they were stolen.

MR. DEWER. The prisoner said he took the tools—he afterwards said he intended to fit up a lathe, and that was the purpose for which he took the tools generally.

(Joseph Moulder, Galway-street, St. Luke's; Richard Whitaker, tin-plate-worker, Gee-street; Mary Cox; Ann Sully, the prisoner's aunt: and—Turner, gave him a good character.)

GUILTY. Aged 20.—Recommended to mercy.

Transported for Seven Years.

NEW COURT,—Thursday, March 3rd, 1836.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Justice Park.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-703a
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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703. DIEDERICK PIEPER was indicted for Arson.

MESSRS. CLARKSON and Doane conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN FREDERICK BOWMAN . I am the son of Frederick Bowman. He has one partner—they are sugar refiners, and live in the parish of St. Mary Matfelon, Whitechapel—the house in question is situated in Dunean-street—it is a part of the manufactory—it runs parallel with Alie-street, Goodman's-fields—our premises extend from one street to the other—there is a part of the premises called the Russia-house—that is a mere arbitrary name—on the lower part of that story, within the filtering-house, there is a room attached to the Russia-house called the men's dining room—there is a house called the single-house, and a room attached to it called the men's room—the prisoner had ben three-quarters of a year in that department—he was what is called a scum-boiler—that duty would confine him to the filtering-room—in consequence of some falling off in the trade, we discharged a number of persons—the prisoner was one—on the 22nd of January I paid him his wages, and told him that the times being bad, we were obliged to discharge some men, about twenty-four—I told him we had no fault to find with any of them, and that they might remain (this was on Friday till the Saturday evening, and that if we should work the

house again, we should have no objection to take him on again with the rest—this was about four o'clock in the afternoon—at that time the work had ceased in the filtering-room for that day—they generally left off between three and four o'clock in the afternoon—it was customary to burn lights in the fill-house during the night, but in the filtering-house at night there ought to be no light—it was burnt in the day, and put out when the work was over—the gas-light in the filtering-room was on a moveable arm, so that it could be moved at right angles with the wall, or close to it—there was a girder over the gas, which was protected by sheetting from the gas copper, and there is a current of air between the copper and the girder—the burner I think was about eight inches under the girder, but the flame came horizontally from the pipe—there is what is called a wall plate, which is a piece of timber four or five inches thick, built into the wall to carry the weight of the girder—the surface of that is flush with the wall—it is unprotected by any sheeting or any other substance—the burner can be turned round and placed close against the wall plate, which is unprotected—on the evening of the 22nd of January, at eight o'clock, I went round the premises—I did not examine the burner in the filtering-room—I looked, and there was no light, and no smell of gas—the burnen were alight in the fill-house, which is contiguous to the filtering-room, where there are two small windows which look into Duncan-street, so placed that a person going round into Duncan-street would be able to see through—they are even with the street—Hillyard came to me at ten o'clock, and made a communication—in consequence of that I went into the filtering-room—I found that the girder and the wall plate had been on fire—they were them out—the watchman (Macquire) was on he premises, but not in that room—he or some one made a communication to me, is consequence of which I sent for the prisoner, and asked him why he had been into the filtering-room and lighted the gas—he was then in the men's sitting-room—I asked him in English, which he understands a little, and I sent for one of the men to interpret it to him—he came readily—I believe one or two went for him—I asked him why he came in and lighted the gas, and set fire to the burner—he said he did not do it—I then asked him what business he had to be in the sugar-house at all—he said he had not been in—I told him he had, for the watchman saw him come out—this was spoken in German—he then said, "Oh yes, I went in to wash my clothes"—I asked him to show me the clothes he had washed—he went a short distance off, and showed me a cloth waistcoat and a coarse apson, which were quite dry and dirty—I said, "These are not the clothes you washed; they have not been washed; where are the ones you washed?"—he said he never said he had washed any—I told him he did say so—he flew into a great passion, held his fists up at me, and was about to strike me, I think, but one or two took him away—I ordered him to be turned out of the premises—a window was afterwards broken, but not in the filtering-room, in consequence of which the prisoner was taken in charge.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. O believe he was given in charge for having, in his anger, when he was turned out, returned and smashed some of your windows? A. He was—that was after we had the conversation in the filtering-room—the sugar-house is parted off from the fill-house—in order to go from the men's room to the single-house, you must pass through the sugar-house, and that transit would take you past the door of the filtering-room—we had a person of the name of Edward Besterfelt in our employ—I cannot pronounce the world wash in German

as the prisoner does, because he speaks a kind of mongrel language, between the Low Dutch and German—I should say washers I don't know that I can pronounce the word fetch as he does—you might say zubringen, or holen in German, but I don't know what it is in Low Dutch—I heard the day before yesterday, from one of the witnesses, that the premises had been on fire several times before—if my own foreman had been apprised of it before, he has kept it a secret—we have a person of the name of Kusel, who has been in our employ four or five years—he is what we call clerk of the works—he has nothing to do with the Germans—he has never informed me that it has been on fire before.

COURT. Q. As you did not go into the filtering-room yourself, but only looked into the room, and saw no light, tell me how you put off the light? A. By turning a cock, which is done by Shoner, who is here—I was not there when he did it.

SAMUEL SHONER . I am what is called a mould-keeper, in the employ of the prosecutors. In consequence of directions from Mr. Bowman, I went into the filtering-room on the 22nd, a little past three o'clock in the afternoon—the first burner in going into the filtering-room was alight—the other was not—the one that was alight was not the one under the girder—I turned it off—the branch that was near the girder was direct out from the wall—the one I put is about six yards from the other—I am quite sure the gas was extinguished—I went into the room again, a little after eight o'clock, and found it was all in darkness, and felt the cocks of both, to see that they were turned off right—the branch was still in the position I had left it—there was not the least smell of gas—I was afterwards in the men's room, in Duncan-street, after eight o'clock—I saw the prisoner there two or three different times, going in and out—Kusel called me about ten o'clock—I was then in the men's sitting-room—I went into the filtering-room—it was full of smoke—the wall plate and girder were on fire—the gas branch was close against the wall—the copper sheathing was in the same situation as it was before—the fire was burning up towards the floor above—there is a leader pipe which comes into the premises, and communicates the gas with the burner, and that was melted by the heat of the fire—that was four or five inches from the cock—here is part of the leaden pipe which was attached to the burner—I an Kusel assisted in putting it out—we were present when he prisoner was interrogated.

Cross-examined. Q. About how many men were in the men's room? A. Perhaps thirty—I was in various part of the premises—I cannot tell how many have gone backwards and forwards into that room—Mr. Bowman had given notice to some of them to leave—I turned off both the cocks—I am not apt to make mistakes—I happened to come past the door a second time, and looked in—the door was shut, but not locked—any body might have gone in—the branch is slack, so that you could move it with your hand, it was easily moved—I never heard of the place being on fire three or four times before, till yesterday when it was mentioned by Gomes, one of the men to be discharged.

MR. DOANE. Q. Are you sure you left it in such a position that it could not get against the wall without somebody moved it? A. Somebody turned it over.

COURT. Q. How long were you absent from the sitting-room? A. I was not absent at all after eight o'clock—I saw the prisoner go in and out for a quarter of an hour at a time—that room was lighted by gas—I never saw him take any light out of that room—you have to go up steps from the room where the

men were to the filtering-room—it is thirty or forty yards off—there was a light in the sugar-house—the burner was about six and a half feet from the ground—he could not light any thing at that, without something to stand on—he might reach up—there is something which receives the light, but no glass—there were four forms against the wall, and some in the middle of the room.

MR. DOANE. Q. Would a person who was going from the room where the men were sitting, pass through any other place where there were gaslights? A. Yes; right opposite the filtering-room there was one—the men used to work there, but we were all done then—that room belongs to the scum-pans—that light was burning all night to show light into the passage—the door was not open—there is a door at each end of the fill-house—there is a light in the scum-house which is open to the passage—that light is about four feet from the ground—the sugar-house is the passage from the men's room to the fill-house—the gas-light is four or five yards from the filtering-house on the other side—there is a way from the men's room into the fill-house, or sugar-house—the men in the sitting-room could see if a person went to take a light from the gas in the sugar-house, or fill-house—two men worked in the filtering-room besides the prisoner.

ISSAC CHARLES DAINES . I am a clerk to Mr. Lockyer, who is a surveyor to the Phoenix fire-office. I know this plan (looking at it) is a correct plan to Messrs. Bowman's premises.

COURT. Q. There is no door to sugar-room at all, it is a kind of passage from the men's room to the house? A. Yes; the people in the men's room could have seen a person stretch up his hand to take a light.

SAMUEL KUSEL . I am superintendent of the labourers and mechanics in the employ of the prosecutor. On the 22nd of January I received orders to go over the sugar-house before I went to bed—I went round a little after ten o'clock—I went into the Russia-house, and on entering I perceived a smoke—I then proceeded to the filtering-house—I discovered the gas-burner placed against the wall-plate, and burning with a full flame against the wall-plate—the girder was on fire, burning—I then turned the cock of the gas-burner off—I found it open—I gave the alarm in the yard, and Samuel Shoner came to my assistance—I succeeded in extinguishing it by pouring water on it—I had seen the prisoner about a quarter before nine o'clock in the front yard, in Duncun-street—he had no business there he ought to have been in the men's room—I saw him looking through a small hatch of the gate, which is an iron grating—by looking through there, he could command a view of about 200 feet of the Russia-house, down the street, the whole length of it—the window of the filtering-room abuts on that street about eighty feet from the gate—the prisoner came to me and asked if he could come to work the next morning—I told him I cloud say nothing about it—I left him then—I did not see him again till he was questioned by Mr. Bowman—he appeared to be in liquor.

Cross-examined. Q. Had not every one of the men liberty to go out till ten o'clock? A. Yes—they drank or played at cards, or did what they liked he could have got drunk in that room. NOT GUILTY .

Second Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-704
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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704. THOMAS HOWLEY was indicted for stealing, in the 27th of February, at St. George's, Hanover-square, 2 £5 Bank-notes, the property of James Robertson Crawford, in the dwelling-house of Mary Urquhart.

CAPTAIN JAMES ROBERTSON CRAWFORD . I am an officer in the Grenadier Guards. On the morning of the 29th of February. I was lodging at No. 2, Charles-street, Berkeley-square, in the dwelling-house of Mr. Urquhart—the prisoner was my brother's servant, who also lodged there—I had left these Bank-notes in a small box, on my writing table, and had counted them on the Friday preceding—there was 25l. in £5 Banknotes, and on the 29th I missed two of them—I dept them in a box with a spring lock—it appears I had left the box ajar occasionally, with the spring not pressed down—in consequence of missing these Bank-notes, I went for an officer—I said I had received them with three others, which were in this box—that they were usually delivered in a sequence of numbers, and no doubt they were fellows to the other numbers—the officer found a £5 Bank-note in the bottom of the prisoner's fob, which was the first of those I had had—I had questioned him about them—he said he knew nothing of it—the one found on him was produced to him, and he said he had taken it from my box.

CHARLES DEWING . I am a police-inspector, and was sent for. I found the boy on the premises, which are in the parish of St. George, Hanover-square—Mrs. Mary Urquhart keeps the house—I found one £5 Bank-note in his fob—he told me it was his own, that he had saved it from his wages, and had had it five months—I asked if he could read and write—he said, "Yes"—I said, "Can you tell the number, or what bank it is of?"—he said, "No;" but he thought it was the Bank of England—Captain Crawford then said if it was his, the two first figures were two one's—the prisoner at first said he took it from a house in the Strand; and then he said he took it from the Captain's box—the second note was afterward found in the prisoner's trunk.

CAPTAIN CRAWFORD . These are my notes, to the best of my knowledge—I have the other three of the same date—these are the first and last notes of a series of five.

COURT to CAPTAIN CRAWFORD Q. How long have you lodged at Mrs. Urquhart's? A. Betweeen tow and three years—her name in Mary—she has no other name—she is a widow.

(Henry William Crawford, the prosecutor's brother, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY. Aged 14.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury . Transported for Life.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-705
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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705. WILLIAM HAWKINS was indicted of stealing, on the 5th of February, one mare, price 5l., the property of Thomas Venus.

THOMAS VENUS . I am a fishmonger, and live in the parish of St. Mary Cray, in Kent. I had a little cart and a pony mare for better than two years—she was a bay mare—on Friday, the 5th of February, I left the cart and mare in Thames-street, about seven o'clock in the morning, in the care of Sarah Manins, whom I had known of some years, and have been in the habit of leaving my cart and horse with before—I was absent nearly two hours—I returned about nine o'clock—I found the cart, and part of the harness there, but the pony was gone—I made inquiries about it, and on the next Tuesday fortnight I saw it at the office, after the policeman had taken it and the prisoner—I have known her well for four

years—I am quite sure it was the same—I valued it at 5l.—I have been offered that far it.

SARAH MANINS . I get my living by minding carts in the parish of St. Magnus the Martyr. I have known Venus eleven or twelve years—on the 5th of February he gave me the pony-cart to take care of in Thames-street it stood on the stand with many more—when he came back the pony was gone—the prisoner had come from Lower Thames-street, with a lad about twelve years old, at twenty minutes before nine—the lad had two parcels of broccoli—the prisoner went and lightened the boy of these two bundles, and put them on the window-still just where the cart and mare stood—the prisoner took the horse out of the cart—I asked him what he was going—to do with it—he said the horse was his—he unharnessed the horse—, and then gave it to another person to hold while he went and put the broccoli on the boy again—I did not hear him call the horse by any name.

Prisoner. I said, "Here you are, Anna, once more, my heart's delight, here you are again." Witness. No, he did not—he mounted on the horse, and made away—I thought that Mr. Venus might have brought him up along with him, and that it was his, he went so directly up to it—he took the harness off in a hurry.

Prisoner. The pony will not fetch above 30s. now in Smithfield, and I will give him double 30s. for it.

HENRY BARNES . I am a policeman. On Friday, the 5th of February, about ten o'clock, I was told that Hawkins was about the neighbourhood with a horse that was supposed to be stolen—I made inquiry, and found it to be correct—about eleven o'clock I saw him riding the horse, and stopped him—I had known him before—this was at North-end Fulham—I questioned him about it to know how he came by it—he said that it was his own—I told him it was no such thing—he said it was the one his wife sold while he was in prison—I told him I knew better—I knew his pony was two inches higher than this one was—he had a pony somewhat resembling this—that was a mare, but it had one of its legs swollen—his wife sold it while he was in prison—he goes round about collecting bones and rags, and lives at North-end, Fulham.

GEORGE SEYMOUR . I am a policeman, I saw this man driving a cart and pony, and I took it, showed it to the prosecutor, and he claimed it.

Prisoner's Defence. Upon my soul and body, I believe it is mine—if she was here now, she would come and speak to me, and I could make her he down if I told her—she is my heart's delight.


29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-706
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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706. CHARLES WINTER was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of February, 1 watch, value 20s.; 1 watch-ribbon, value 6d.; 1 seal, value 6d.; and 2 watch-keys, value 8d.; the goods of James Taylor.

SARAH TAYLOR . I am the wife of James Taylor, a fisherman—he fishes on the coast of Holland—our home is No. 11, Globe-yard, Black-wall. The prisoner lived in our neighbourhood—he goes about selling potatoes—on the 6th of February he came and asked me to buy some—I refused—he carried the potatoes in a truck—he showed me some, and at last I went to the truck, and was picking them out—he said he was going to serve a neighbour, Mr. Richards, who lives next door—he was about ten minutes away—I picked out sixpenny worth—he came back, and

said he would call for the money presently—I had left my door open—my watch was in the front room on the ground floor—I had seen it safe when I went out, and when the watch was missed the prisoner was gone—I gave information to the police, and in the course of the day the prisoner was taken, and the watch was found.

JOSEPH WHATMORE . I am a policeman. I went to the station at a quarter past nine o'clock, and there I heard the watch had been stolen—I looked where the prisoner lived—his mother, who lives in Cottage-street, told me—I went to his house in Castle-street, Poplar—I searched about: the room and found nothing, and then went into the yard—in one corner I saw the earth had been disturbed—I turned it over, and found the watch, wrapped in a handkerchief, buried in the ground—that was on the 6th February—it was lost about eight o'clock at night—I searched the same night.

SARAH TAYLOR . This is my watch.

Prisoner. I never saw it.

GUILTY . Aged 22— Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-707
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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707. JOHN NEWMAN was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of January, 1 watch, value 10s., the goods of Henry John Blythe.

MARY ANN BLYTH . I live at No. 46, Camden-street—Henry John Blyth is my son, he is fourteen years of age—this watch belonged to him—the prisoner used to come there to clean knives and shoes every morning—I have known him about six months—my servant missed the watch—I should know it again.

ELIZA BURT I live with Mr. Blyth, I know this watch—I put it into the drawer, and from thence into a soup tureen, in consequence of the threads getting entangled with the hands, as the glass was broken—I put it there the day after Christmas, and missed it before the week was out—the prisoner used to come to our house every day.

DANIEL GARDINER . I am shopmen to Mr. Smellis, pawnbroker, Clarendon-square. I produce the watch, which was pledged by the prisoner on the 12th of January.

THOMAS OVERINGTON . I took the prisoner, and found the duplicate in the coffee-pot.

MRS. BLYTH. This is my son's watch, I have no doubt whatever of it.

ELIZA BURT . This is the watch I put in the tureen—I know it perfectly well.

(Ellen Conolly, of Bridgewater-street, Somer's-town; Michael Conolly, and Elizabeth Martin, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 19— Confined Six Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-708
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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708. JOHN NASH was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of February, 1 pair of scales, value 2s.; 2 corkscrews, value 6d.; 1 till, value 6d.; 1 shilling, 1 sixpence, and 3s.8d. in copper money; the goods and monies of William Stiles.

JAMES STILES . I am the son of William Stiles, who lives at No. 13, Boswell-court, Queen-square, and is a green-grocer. On the 10th of February, between the hours of one and two, I saw the prisoner near my father's shop, and heard a noise in the street; my mother got up and looked out, and saw the boy in the court—she found the till was gone, and ran after him—he ran across the road and put the till down just as he took it—he had had it under his arm—I lost sight of him, as I stopped and picked up

the till—I then tried to look after him immediately, but he got away—he was not taken till the next day—I had known him before, and am sure it was him—the till contains a pair of scales and two cork-screws, and about 3s. 8d. in copper—one shilling and one sixpence.

WILLIAM STILES . I am owner of this till. I did not see the transaction—I was not at home that day—the till was behind the counter—the prisoner must have crawled round on his knees.

SAMUEL BECKNELL . I was going past the bottom of the court, and saw the prisoner with the till under his arm, and another boy with him.

JOHN ANSHAW BURKETT . I am a police-constable. I took the prisoner into custody.

GUILTY . Aged 14.— Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-709
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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709. ELIZABETH NEWMAN was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of February, 1 cloak, value 4s., the goods of David Trail, and that she had been before convicted of felony.

RICHARD TERBS . I am in the service of David Trail; he is a pawnbroker, and lives in Clerkenwell. On the 10th of February the prisoner and another came in to pledge a bit of cotton, and as they went out we missed a cloak—I ran after her, and caught her down Brook-hill, with this cloak in her lap—it is my master's—I know the prisoner perfectly well, by her pawning things at our shop.

Prisoner. Q. You did not see me take it? A. No; but I found it on you.

WILLIAM GRAY (police-constable C 199.) I took the prisoner into custody.

GEORGE WILLIAMS . I am a police-constable. I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction for felony, from Mr. Clark's office (read)—the prisoner is the woman.

Prisoner's Defence. I went to pledge a piece of cotton—I was out of the house, and the woman brought the cloak to me.

GUILTY . Aged 56.— Confined Twelve Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-710
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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710. WILLIAM JONES and DAVID KEEFE were indicted for stealing, on the 7th of February, 175lbs. of lead, value 1l. 5s., the goods of Richard Cooper Goodman, and fixed to a building—2nd COUNT for ripping, cutting, and breaking, with intent to steal.

THOMAS STALLEBRASS . I am in the employ of Mr. Richard Cooper Goodman. He is a proprietor of a timber yard and premises in Compton-street, Clerkenwell. On the morning of the 7th of February, at a quarter before three o'clock, I was awoke by a knocking at the door of the private house attached to the timber yard—I went down and found a policeman there—our shed has leaden gutters, but I had not been on the roof, and had not seen them—I went on afterwards, and found the gutters had been ripped and cut—I did not go to bed again till I had seen the prisoners in the station-house, which was about five o'clock in the morning—twenty-one feet of lead had been cut, about two feet six inches wide—I instructed the officer to throw it into a shed from the wall where it laid—it was not there when I went to bed.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Had you been upon the roof at all before the policeman knocked at the door? A. No, Sir—this house is Richard Cooper Goodman's he gave that as his name before the Magistrates—I am his son-in-law, and have been so for eighteen months—he has

gone by the name of Richard Goodman—he gave the name of Richard Goodman at the office—the Magistrate then asked him if he had another name, and be gave the name of Cooper—he is not here.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES. Q. When was the first time you saw the prisoners that morning? A. About five o'clock—I had not seen them before they were at the station-house—Mr. Goodman has no partner.

WILLIAM CRAMPTON . I am a police-constable. On the 7th of February I was near the timber yard, at a quarter past two in the morning, and saw two men or the top of the wall—I did not disturb them—one had a blue coat on, the other a flannel jacket—one was sitting on the wall, and was heaving the lead up—the other was cutting it—I did not show myself to them—I went into a house, looked out of the window, and saw them plainly—I then came down and made my brother officer acquainted with it—I then got another officer, and he got two more—we surrounded the place before we disturbed them—they were at work for half an hour—we then got up over a blacksmith's forge—they heard us—they got down at another part, and there the two officers were—they saw them, and then turned back and got down another way, and were taken between three and four o'clock—I saw them—Keefe had a blue coat on, and the other a flannel jacket.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. What sort of a night was this? A. Sometimes foggy; sometimes dark; and sometimes moonlight; but during that half-hour, it was partly dark and partly moonlight—I could see them when it was cloudy—the building might be ten or twelve feet from the ground—when I was at the window I was not more than a yard from them—the shed is in a court-yard, at the back of some cottages—I looked at the prisoners for two or three minutes at a time when the moon shone upon them—there were about ten officers-engaged in this—only three are here—we surrounded the place—they were taken before they got into the street—I afterwards examined the roof—all the lead was moved off the ledge on the wall—there were four or five feet that they had not got off.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES. Q. What street did this take place in? A. In a yard situated in Compton-street, Clerkenwell—it was about a quarter past two o'clock in the morning when I first saw them—I watched them for about five minutes before I went for my brother officer—I don't know what house I went through—it was open—I don't know whether the others were—a man of the name of Taylor lived there—he was up—he is a nailer—I went through his house into the back yard—I there had a full view of them with the moon shining on them—I then went up-stairs and had a view of them from the first-floor window—there are different sized houses in that street—two or three stories—to the best of my knowledge the roof of the house was not more than ten or twelve feet from that window—I did not take the prisoners—I first watched them at a quarter past two o'clock—they were taken a little before four o'clock—I did not see them taken, because they got away the contrary way—I swear these are the men.

WILLIAM SALTER BADCOCK . I am a policeman. I first went to the timber yard at a quarter before three o'clock on the Sunday morning—knowing the situation of the premises, I stopped in a place where I thought it likely they might make their escape—after staying there five or ten minutes, I saw the two prisoners on the roof—I called

to them to stop—they came scroes on the front of an iron foundry, and ran along the parapet—I called to them again—I lost sight of them after that, I went and got another constable—I gained admittance through an empty house, and got over the roof—I looked about, and found the two prisoners in a privy—I asked what they wanted there—Beefed said the man had let them come in there to sleep—I took them to the station—I looked at their hands, and they were dirty—I have since been on the roof and seen where the lead was cut from I saw it weighed—there was 175lbs.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE Q. How far off were you from the persons you saw on the roof? A. Not further than ten or twelve yards—it was rather dark—I did not go into Taylor's house when I went on the roof—I was about eight yards from them—I could distinguish their dress—I could not see their features—one had a dark coat, the other a flannel jacket—I know they are the same as I saw the first time—it was about half an hour from the first time I saw them till I found them in the privy.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES Q. Who had the coat on? A. Keefe, the tall man, had the hannel jacket on—that is Jones—on the way to the station-house, Keefe said he had run away from a row, to get out of the way of the police, for having assaulted a girl.

Keefe. I was in company with two persons that evening, and had been so from half-past seven o'clock till half-past two—I had some words with Georgiann Stevenson, and I struck her, and with that she ran away; and Joues, seeing the door open, said, "We will get in here, or we shall be taken." (William Knight, a bricklayer, of No.70, Swam-lane, Thames-street; William Norris, chair-maker, No. 7, Salmon-place, Compton-street; Eliza Marseley, No.5, Corporation-lane, Clerkenwell; and James Hoare, carpenter, No.44, Compton-street; gave the prisoner Keefe a good character.)



Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-711
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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711. THOMAS TOFIELD was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of Febrauary, 1 pair of ear-rings, value 1l.; 1 breast pin, value 6s.; 17 penny-weight of silver, value 4s. and 2 ounces and 2 pennyweights of gold, value 3l.; the goods of John Grandin, his master.

JOHN GRANDIN I am a goldsmith, and live at No.6, Greek-street, Soho The prisoner had been in my employment for about seven months, as a chaser—I gave him in charge last Saturday week, in consequence of having found some gold on his person—I missed some ear-rings, and a great quantity of gold—the officer came, and I charged the prisoner with having stolen the property—I made him no promise or threat, nor did the officer—the prisoner said the property which he gave out of his pocket was mine—he took out a small ingot of gold, about an ounce—he said there was more gold in a cup, in his lodging, in a cupboard, and that was also my property.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS Q. have you a partner? A. No; I saw the prisoner's mother I did not offer to settle the affair for a sum of money, not for 50l.—I said I should be very glad to have my property, instead of prosecuting him—she asked me what I had lost—I said from 90 to 100 ounces—she offered me 11l.—I did not say I would not take less than 50l.—she said something about not being able to make up the money.

GEORGE AVIS I was sent for last Sunday week to the prosecutor's, and saw the prisoner he was charged on suspicion of robbing his master—I said, "What have you got belonging to your master?"he said, what he had

at his lodgings belonged to his master; and he said he was sorry he had done what he had, he had done wrong.

WILLIAM VERDIN I am in the employ of Mr. Grandin. It is my duty to look after the gold in the shop, and what is brought in, and delivered, and to weight it every Saturday evening—I have found a mistake every week—I know these rings, this pin, and a great part of the cuttings to be my master's—they were found at the prisoner's lodging.

MR. GRANDIN This is my property.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you not tell this young man, that if he did not own to the gold being yours, you would send for an officer? A. I did not—my foreman followed me into the parlour, and heard what I said.

Prisoner's Defence Gentlemen of the Jury, I believe that a gentleman here went with my mother to Mr. Grandin; but first, Mr. Grandin came to the station-house to me on Sunday morning, and said, "I am surprised I have not seen your mother yet, I suppose your brother has not acquainted her, "On the Monday my brother came, and said "Mr. Grandin wanted 60l. of your mother, which she cannot make up; and this morning he is come down to 50l.; and he says you are such an excellent workman, he will take you again." One gentleman offered to lend my mother 10l., and my brother offered to apprentice himself to him for two years to make up the money. GUILTY Aged 22—Recommended to mercy by the Jury— Confined Six Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-712
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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712. CHARLES HOWARD was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of February, 7lbs. weight of beef, value 3s. 6d., the goods of Richard Coumbe.

RICHARD COUMBE I am a butcher, and carry on my business at No. 124, Crawford-street. On the 13th of Febrauary, at half-past ten o'clock in the evening, a person brought the prisoner into my shop, with a piece of beef—I had lost such a piece—the man said he had caught the prisoner with it, and that he saw him take it off the board—I sent for the prisoner's father previous to my giving him into custody—I will not swear to it—it was outside on the board.

SAMUEL HENRY VEAR As I was coming quickly along Crawford-street, at a little distance, I saw the prisoner take something from Mr. Coumbe's window—I thought he had stolen it, and seeing me pursue him, he ran—I followed him—he turned a corner, and was a quater of a minute out of my sight, during which time he might have thrown the meat away—he had turned another corner before I collared him, and had no meat with him—I brought him back, and picked up a piece of beef just round the corner that he had turned—when I collared him he said, "Pray let me go, as it will break my mother's heart"—I said, "You must come back with me, and hear what the butcher says about it"—I took him back—the butcher did not know he had lost a piece till he looked, and then he found he was a piece short—I could not see whether he took beef or pork, or veal; but he took something.

JAMES FACER I am a police-constable. I took him to the station-house—he said he had stolen the beef, but that was nothing, when he got used to it.

RICHARD COMBE re-examined. Q. Do you believe it is your beef? do I believe it is, but would not swear positively to it—it was not my own cutting—I sent to his father, and he said he had been many times before the magistrate.

GUILTY .* Aged 15— Transported for Seven Years.

OLD COURT, Friday. March 4th. 1836.

Fourth Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-713
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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713. JOHN BRAIDLEY and MARY MOORE were indicted for having on their possession I mould, with the impression of a counterfeit sixpence, well knowing it to be counterfeit; to which they pleaded

GUILTY .—See page 724.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-714
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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714. ROBERT BONNE was indicted for feloniously uttering 1 counterfeit shilling, having been previously convicted as a common utterer of counterfeit coin; to which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-715
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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715. JANE HATHAWAY was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of February, 1 bottle, containing half a pint of raspberry vinegar, value 1s. 6d.; and 1 bottle, containing 1 ounce of essence of lemons, value 1s.; the goods of Walter Hudson.

RALPH THOMAS CARTER . I am in the employ of Walter Hudson, who keeps an oil-shop in Crawford-street, Marylebone. I have seen the prisoner at times, coming to the shop—she came on the 17th of February, and inquired for two ounces of tea, and gave me a half-crown—I gave her sevenpence-halfpenny in change—I saw her take up a bottle of raspberry vinegar, and a bottle of essence of lemons, and put them into her muff—they stood close to her—she was walking out, and when she got to the door I told her she had taken a bottle of essence of lemons—she strongly denied it, and asked me how I thought a woman of her respectability could do such a thing—I said, "I know nothing of your respectability"—(I saw her take them up)—she said nothing, but went to the counter, put her muff down, drew her hand out of her muff, and put down the essence of lemons, and I took out the other bottle—she said she had bought the essence of lemon down at another shop, but if I thought she had stolen it, she would pay for it—Mr. Hudson sent for an officer—the two are worth 2s. 6d.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you not search her muff before she went to the counter? A. No, when she was at the counter—she did not point out the bottle of essence on the counter—I took it from her hand—I searched her muff when she put it on the counter—it was not in her muff—I took it from her hand—she said she bad not the slightest intention of stealing it—she appeared a little flighty—there were more valuable things on the counter.

WALTER HUDSON . I am the master of the shop. I was not present when the fact occurred—on my entering the shop I found the prisoner and my apprentice contending together near the door—he accused her of taking two bottles, which she strongly denied, and immediately produced the essence of lemon, which she said she had bought at another shop and paid—I am certain of that—she was very much agitated—I told her that could not be, as I pointed out the place whether it came from, and that the raspberry vinegar was missing, and it was there a quarter of an hour before—she said she was a respectable woman—I said that might be, but as I had lost property before I was determined to give her in charge—she appeared to know perfectly well what she was about.

Cross-examined. Q. You do not agree with your apprentice that she appeared flighty? A. No.

JOHN WILSON . I am a policeman. I was sent for on the 17th of Feburary. I took the prisoner in charge for

stealing the two bottles now produced—she said had taken nothing, for was it her intention to steal them—I took her to the station-house—a female searched her—I 1s., and a letter was found on her—she told me she lived at No.8, Quebec-street, and I found she lived at No.15.

Prisoner's Defence. It is all a false statement—I did tell the policeman where I resided—I did not give a false address.

WILLIAM LANGDON . I live in Duke-street, Manchester-square. I have known the prisoner some time—she once lived with me—I trusted her with plate and every thing, and never missed any thing.

JOHN KENNEDY . I am a boot-maker, and live in Sherwood-street, Golden-square. I have known her twenty years well—I have observed a strangenoss in her manner at times—she bore an upright character.

JOSEPH WATSON . I am a cabinet-maker. The prisoner lodged with me—I have known her seventeen weeks—she bore a very good character indeed—I observed nothing very particular in her—there was a little default, certainly.

ELIZABETH HALL . I live in Tufton-street, Westminster. The prisoner in my sister—her manner has been rather eccentric.

CHARLES KING . I am an upholsterer, and live near Wales. I have come up on purpose to give her a character—she was always honest—I believe her utterly incapable of doing any thing of this kind—she is a little eccentric, or she would not live in London—she has sufficient to live on.

MR. COPE (Governor of Newgate.) The prisoner has been in prison about a fortnight—I have observed her manner—her conduct is exceedingly flighty—I have had some difficulty in persuading her that she was to be tried—she broke out and said she had done nothing—I believe she knows right from wrong.

GUILTY. Aged 47.—Strongly recommended to mercy.

Confined Five Days.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-716
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty; Guilty > unknown

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716. JOHN SHEEDY and DENNIS BUCKLEY were indicted for stealing, on the 18th of February, 1 pair of shoes, value 1s. 6d., the goods of Joseph Kinsley.


JOSEPH KINSLEY . I keep a clothes shop in Marylebone-lane. On the 18th of February, between five and six o'clock in the evening, the prisoners passed up and down my door two or three times, close together, in company—Buckley then stole the shoes, and they both ran as far as corner—I ran out immediately after them—Buckley turned round to see if I was following, and dropped the shoes at the corner—I took them up and followed him round three streets, and lost sight of him, and on my return met Sheedy—I asked him where the other lived—he said he did not know any thing about him—I said if he did not tell me I would give him in charge, which I did—he told the policeman where he lived.

Sheedy. Q. Did I not come round and ask you if you had caught him, and did not you run round the square to catch the boy? A. I did not see you till I returned home, and then met you.

EDWARD EAGLING . I am a policeman, Sheedy was given into custody by the prosecutor, in Wimpole-street—I asked him if he knew the boy who took the shoes—he said he did not, and had never seen him before; but he was accidentally passing, and saw him take them—after locking him up before I took him to the Magistrate, he said he was sorry he had ✗the boy to go with him, for it was him that stole the shoes—that his

name was Buckley, and he lived at No. 3, Calmell-buildings—I apprehended Backley there.

SHEEDY— GUILTY . Aged 16.—Both Transported for Seven Years.

Before Mr. Justice Park.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-717
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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717. JOHN HILLS was indicted for that he, on the 21st of December, at All Saints, Poplar, feloniously did steal from and out of a certain post-office there, a certain letter, directed to and for a certain person at "No. 80, High-street, Poplar," to wit, one Mrs. Rachael Hill, the said letter being the property of William Cross.—2nd COUNT stating it to be the property of Rachael Hill.—7 other COUNTS, varying the manner of stating the charge.—2 other COUNTS, for stealing a sovereign.

MESSRS. SHEPHERED and ADOLPHUS, and the HON. MR. SCARLETT Conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM CROSS . I am a house-agent, and live at Cheltenham, in Gloucestershire. I have a sister-in-law living at Poplar, named Mrs. Hill—on the 18th of December I wrote a letter to her, and put a sovereign into it—I got it franked by Sir William Gossett—I sealed it up, and wrote on it, "Mrs. Hill, No. 80, High-street, Poplar," on the front, as I did not know I should be able to get a frank—I took a cover with me, and Sir William Gossett wrote the direction on the cover, and franked it—I walked back to my own house, and enclosed the letter I had written in the cover—I sealed it up, and put it into the post-office myself, at Cheltenham—it was between four and five o'clock, I think—the prisoner is no relation of my sister's—her name is Hill, not Hills.

WILLIAM COOMBS . I am a clerk in the post-office at Cheltenham. I recollect a letter addressed to Mrs. Hill, High-street, Poplar, being put into the post-office—it was dropped into the letter-box on the 18th of December—this is the letter-bill, signed by the post-master—this entry of "Mrs. Hill, No. 80, High-street, Poplar," is my writing—Mr. Wall is the postmaster—I made up the bag, and despatched the letter among the rest—(bill read)—"From Cheltenham, unpaid letters for London, £8 13s. 6d.—ditto, passing through London, 12s. 5d.—total £9 5s. 11d.—paid letters £3 1s. 8d.—money letters, "Mrs. Hill, 80, High-street, Poplar, London;" "Mrs. R. Sewland, Facey-farm, Welburg, Suffolk"—it takes three sovereigns to weigh an ounce, and Sir William gossett is entitled to frank above weight.

HENRY MATTHEWS . I am a clerk in the General Post-office, London. On the 19th of December I received the Cheltenham bag—it arrived in its usual state, sealed—there were Mona-letters in it—this letter bill came with the bag—I compared it with the letters—there were letters to correspond—there was one to correspond with this, for "Mrs. Hill"—the postage is charged at the place the letters come from—I gave the bill and letters to Mr. Barnard, the clerk of the money letter-book, and he signed this as an acknowledgement of receiving the letters.

CHARLES WILLIAM BARNARD . I am a clerk in the Post-office in London. On the morning of the 19th of December, a money-letter came into my hands from Cheltenham, franked by Sir William Gossett—I have made a memorandum in my book—I entered the address of the letter myself, (reads) "19th of December, Cheltenham—Hill, 80, High-street, Poplar"—the heading of the column is, "from whence came," "number," "address," and "to whom delivered"—the entry is "Cheltenham, No. 15, Hill, 80, High-street, Poplar," and the initials "J.T"—they are not my writing—they

are the initials of John Thorp—I have signed the money-bill, as having received that letter.

EDWARD JAMES SMITH . I was assisting Mr. Barnard in the Post-office on the 19th of December—the money-letters were handed to me by him—it was my duty to fill up the blank receipts—to copy the address from the letters on to the receipts—this is the receipt I filled up that morning—I wrote the word "Hill," after the printed word "Mr. "—I did not strike out the "Mr. "—it is the custom to fill it up in that short way—G.P. is a stamp put on after leaving our office—this receipt was sent to the Twopenny-post, among the unpaid letters, to be sorted there as a letter—(read) "No. 15, General-post-office letter containing—directed to Mrs. Hill, High-street, Poplar; received the above, John Hills."

JOHN THORPE . I am a clerk in the Twopenny-post-office. On the 19th of December I was clerk in the Money-office of the Post-office—it was my duty that morning to collect the cash-letters arriving by the General-post, within the delivery of the Twopenny-post—I received a letter from Mr. Barnard directed to "Mrs. Hill, 80, High-street, Poplar"—I signed my initials to the book, as an acknowledgement of having received it—I signed them opposite the entry of the letter—when a money-letter is sent for delivery, there is also a receipt sent with it, for the person it is directed to to sign as having received it—I delivered this letter to Mr. Harper, the clerk of the division of that delivery of the Twopenny-post—he brought me the receipt, for which I handed him the money-letter—the receipts are passed through a tunnel to the Twopenny-post department.

GEORGE HARPER . I am a clerk in the Twopenny-post-office. This receipt came into my hands on the 19th of December—I took it to Mr. Thrope, and got the letter it refers to—I entered this letter on that bill, and put these two papers with the letters, into the bag for Poplar—(paper read)—"Twopenny-post-office, 19th December, 1835, Poplar General-post, inland and foreign postage 19s. 10d."—"Hill, High-street, Poplar"—when I had made out the papers, they were put into the bag with the letters—it was tied and sealed in my presence, and was then taken by the porter, who tied and sealed it, to the Accelerator, to be carried to Poplar—it left my hands at thirty-five minutes after eight o'clock.

WILLIAM HOWLETT . I am a letter-carrier of the Twopenny-post-office. High-street, Poplar, is my district—I received the letter-bag from the twopenny-post-office on the morning of the 19th, as usual—it was sealed when delivered to me—I unsealed it, and took out the letters—I found a money-letter in it, directed to one "Hill"—a receipt accompanied it—this is the receipt—I delivered the letters, and in the course of that delivered I looked at the receipt, and found on it, "Mrs. Hill"—I did not look at the letter particularly, and having letters directed to John Hill at the Post-office, I left the letter at the Post-office with Mrs. Bristow, the Post-mistress—I frequently has letters for Mr. Hill at the Post-office, and seeing "Mr. Hill" on the receipt, I left it at the Post-office, not looking at the direction on the letter—I got the receipt from Mrs. Bristow, a day or two afterwards, signed, and sent it up to the Post-office—when I got it from Mrs. Bristow, it had got the signature of John Hill—this is the lettter-bill of the 19th of December.

ELIZABETH BRISTOW . I keep the Post-office in High-street, Poplar. On the 19th of December, Howlett brought me a letter with a receipt, to

be signed by the person for whom it was directed—the receipt then had nothing on it but"Hill" there was no postage to pay. for franked letter don't pay the Twopenny-postage when they come by the General-post—the prisoner came to the Post-office a few days after I had received this letter—I had known him before—he has received letter before at my office, by the name of John Hills—I always knew him before by that name—some of the letters were directed to him at the General-post-office. High-street, Poplar; and some he refused to take, if the postage was not paid—when he came, he asked me if there was any thing for him—I said yes—I fetched this letter and put it on the counter, and asked him if it was his letter, he said, "Yes"—he was looking at the direction then—I asked him if he was quite sure; he said, "Yes, quite sure"—he was still looking at the letter—he signed the receipt, and has signed receipts before for money-letter—I have seen him open letters before, and take money—he did not open the letter in question there—I did not read the direction of it—I saw the name of "Hill" or"Hills", but I read no more—my house is No. 234, High-street—I laid the receipt down, and he signed it and took the letter away—he called a few days after and had another letter with, half-a-sovereign in it—it was within a week, and I think that letter had "John Hills" on it—he called again some time afterwards, and asked if there was anything for him—I said yes, I believed there was; that the letter-carrier wished to see him—I appointed for him to call the following day, at twelve o'clock to see the letter-carrier—he promised to be there at the time, but he never came—I had a servant named Sarah White living with me at that time—she was in the shop when the letter in question was delivered to him; and he signed the receipt and after he went away she took it out of my hand, and looked at it.

Prisoner Q. Have not I had letter directed for Mr. Hill, as well as John Hill? A. I do not remember—I never heard you say you did not wish to take any letters but your own, and that you knew your own friends' handwriting.

MR. SHEPHERD. Q. When you put the letter down on the table for him to take it, did you let it lay alone, or keep one finger on it? A. I put it on the counter with my finger on the corner—it was so when he read the direction.

MR. HARPER re-examined. Franked letters coming by the General-post pay the Twopenny-post beyond three miles of the Post-office, but this was within the three miles.

SARAH WHITE . I am in the service of Mrs. Bristow. I know the prisoner by calling at the Post-office, for the last six or seven months, for letters—I remember on a Monday, or Saturday, in December, near Christmas, the prisoner calling he asked if there was anything for him—Mrs. Bristow said, yes—she laid the letter on the counter, and asked him if it was his letter—she kept her finger on the corner—he looked at the direction and said yes—she said "Are you sure," or"Quite sure"—he said "Quite sure," and them he had it—she said, "Sign the receipt," which he signed and took the letter away with him—I remember it every clearly—I had a little conversation with mistress about it afterwards, which makers me recollect it.

Prisoner Q. Do you mean to say I came on the Saturday or Monday to inquire after letters? A. Yes. it was the 19th or 23st of December, I do not know which—the last letter he had from out house was about the beginning of February, this year—I do not recollect his having a money letter in December.

MRS. BRISTOW I rather think it was on Monday morning that he came, but I am not certain.

THOMAS BYFORD . I am employed in the Post-office at Stepney. It is my duty to inspect the letter-carriers—I received instructions early in February to make inquiry about a letter which Mrs. Hill, of Poplar ought to have received—I made inquiries of Mr. Howlett and Mrs. Bristow—on the 19th of February the prisoner came to my office and inquired if I had a letter there in the name of Hill—I told him no—I understood him to say Hill not Hills—I asked him how he came to have his letters addressed there as it was not usual to have letter addressed to out office at Stepney—it was a thing we never have done—if it was directed to be left till called for it, would not come to our office, which is a branch station—I said it was not usual to have letter addressed there and asked him why he had them addressed there—he never had any addressed there before—he said he thought he could have letters address where he pleased—I asked him if he had had any letters directed to the Post-office at Poplar—he said no—I again asked if he was in the habit of having his letters addressed any where else—he said yes—I asked him where—he said to the General-post-office—I asked him which General-post-office—he said the General-post-office, St. Martin's-le-grand—he than said "You seem to question me very closely, if you doubt my word I will soon fetch you something to show you I am a respectable man, and a worn broker"—I again asked him if he had ever received any general-post letters directed to the post-office, High-street, Poplar—he said yes—I asked him how long since—he said five or six months—I asked when he received the last letter from the post office at Poplar—he said on Saturday the 19th of December—I wished him if he could to produce the cover of that letter—he said he could and would go and fetch it—I asked him where the letter came from—said from Alesham—I did not ask him about the contents of the letter—he did not say what it contained—I asked him for his address, which he gave me in writing, No. 4, love-lane Shadwell—here is the direction—I sent William Edbury, a letter—carrier with him to that place and they afterwards returned—the prisoner wrote this direction in my presence.

Prisoner. When you cross-questioned my closely you asked me where I lived my reply was," You certainly must know me, "I have received ed letters at Poplar; you used to be letter-carrier at Poplar. Witness. I never knew where he lived—I was never at Mrs. Bristow's when you have been there a—I did not say I knew your name was Hills.

WILLIAM EDBURY I went with the prisoner on the 19th of February—when we got near Love-lane, he said, "I do not live there." I then said, "When do you live? he said, "Not far, follow me," he then took me to no.13. Lower Gun-alley, Wapping he went into the house and I followed him, he went up-stairs, pulled a key from his pocket unlocked a door on the first floor, and went in I followed him—the outer door was open—when he got in he said, "I have not got the cover of the letter"—he had not looked for it when he said of—he went and got some paper and tied them up in apiece of flannel he brought them down stairs, and was about to give them to a woman I said, "You had better bring them to the inspector and clear yourself"—he said, "You shall not take them they are my property and I shall not go with you," I said, "Then I must give you into custody," which I did—It was a small house—it appeared to have one room up-stairs and another down, that was all.

Prisoner. Q. Did I say I could find any covers of letters—did I not say, I would go home and see if there were any? A. You said, previsous to going to your residence, that you had covers of letters: and, moreover, you had a book which stated on what business they were, and no doubt you had got it—you said, when I asked you what papers you had, that it was your license.

RACHAEL HILL . I am sister to Mr. Cross, and live at No. 80, High-street, Poplar. I expected to receive a letter from him in December last—I did not receive it—I did not receive any letter from him—I have often received cash letters, directed to High-street, Popular—I never received this—the prisoner is no relation or connection of mine.

Prisoner's Defence (written). I am by trade a porter, and have a wife and two children to support—I worked for Mr. Ellis, a surveyor, in the Minories, five years—I can have an excellent character from him, and other gentlemen in the City—I fought for my king and country many years—I am entirely innocent of the charge—I have been in the habit of receiving letters addressed to the post-office in question—I did not receive the letter in question, nor is it my name which is signed to the receipt—it has been compared with my writing, and it does not agree.

SARAH WHITE re-examined. I saw the prisoner again the receipt—I had seen him sign receipts before—this writing is different to other writing of his—he wrote it quicker and with a steel pen—I took it up at the time, and noticed that it was different writing—I made the observation to Mrs. Bristow, after he was gone—I did not look at it till he was gone—I am certain he is the man.

GUILTY . Aged 52.— Transported for Life.

Before Mr. Justice Gaselee.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-719
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty; Not Guilty > no evidence

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719. RICHARD BRAIDLEY, MARY MOORE , and JOHN GANNER , were indicted for that they, on the 20th of February, 3 pieces of false and counterfeit coin, resembling and apparently intended to resemble and pass for good sixpences feloniously did make and counterfeit, to which Braidley and Moore pleaded.

GUILTY .— Transported for Life.

The HON. MR. SCARLETT declined offering any evidence against Ganner who was ACQUITTED .

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-720
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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720. JOHN DOUGLAS, alias Dunbar was indicted for feloniously and knowingly uttering a counterfeit half-crown to Elizabeth Hunter, having been previously committed as a common utterer of counterfeit coin.

The HON. MR. SCARLETT and MR. PAYNE conducted the Prosecution. CALEB EDWARD POWELL. I am assistant solicitor to the Mint. I produce an examined copy of the record of the conviction of John Douglas, in February, 1835—I have examined it with the record—it is a true copy (read).

ROBERT DOCURA . I am a police constable. I was present when the prisoner was tried in February, 1835, and convicted of uttering a counterfeit crown-piece—I am sure he is the same man—I took him up.

ELIZABETH HUNTER . I am niece to Mr. Thomas Ballance, who keeps the Red Lion, in Ratchiff-highway. On the 3rd of February the prisoner came there, and asked for a glass of the best gin—he offered me a good half-crown in payment at first, but then asked me for it back, saying he thought he had got halfpence—I gave it him back, and he put sixpence

and two halfpence, and a farthing, on the counter—the copper was not enough to pay for the gin, which was twopence—he took the sixpence and copper up off the counter, and gave me a bed half-crown—I called to my uncle and gave it to him, and told him he had given me a good half-crown at first, and now he had given me a bad one—he afterwards paid me for the gin with a penny-piece and two halfpence—I gave the bad half-crown to my uncle—he did not give it back to the prisoner.

Cross-examined by MR. CHAMBERS. Q. Did you observe which pocket he took the copper money from? A. No: nor which he took the half-crown from—he gave me the bad one from his left hand—he put the good one on the counter, and it remained there for about a minute or two—I did not ask him for the sixpence instead of the half-crown—I gave the half-crown to my uncle directly—it did not pass through any body's hands—my uncle did not see the sixpence—he was about half a yard from me—he could see what was going on if he was looking that way—I took the twopence for the gin.

THOMAS BALLANCE . I was standing near Hunter when she served the prisoner with the gin—I observed what took place—she gave me a half-crown to look at—I found it was a bad one—I went round the counter and stopped the prisoner—she said, "This person has first given me a good half-crown, and has now given me a bad one"—I charged him with having passed bad money?"—he wanted to go out, and said, "You do not suspect me of passing bad money?"—I closed the door, and said, "If you will show me the good half-crown you showed the girl at first, you shall go out"—he said he had got nothing but the half-crown she had given me—I sent for a policeman—while my friend was gone for him the prisoner showed me the good half-crown in the palm of his right hand—he was then taken into custody—just as the officer was coming in he turned his back to me, and put something into his mouth—he put his hand up to his mouth, and appeared to have great difficulty to get something down his throat—what it was I did not see—I gave the bad half-crown to the officer.

Cross-examined. Q. When did you give it to the Officer? A. As soon as he came in—it passed from my niece's hand into mine, and from mine into the officer's—I am sure he said he had no other half-crown—not that he had given the girl no other—he paid for the gin before the policeman came, with one penny-piece and two halfpence—I did not see any thing of a sixpence.

WILLIAM ROCK (police-constable H 99). I was on duty in Ratcliff-highway on the 3rd of February—I went to Mr. Ballance's house about half-past four o'clock, as Britten came for me—when I got there I found the prisoner detained with the landlord of the house, who gave me a bad half-crown, which he said the prisoner had been offering to pass—I took him into custody—when within a few yards of the station-house he made a sudden wrench—I thought he wanted to wrench himself from my custody—I returned from the station-house in the direction he tried to wrench himself, and there met John Britten, and received from him a good half-crown—I found a farthing on the prisoner, but no sixpence—he said he lived at No.26, Gray's-inn-lane—I produce the bad half-crown, which I have had ever since, separate from any others, and also the good one which I received from Britten.

JOHN BRITTEN . I fetched the policeman to the public-house, and accompained him and the prisoner to the station-house—on the way the prisoner took something from his pocket, and threw it away from him near an old building—it

was a half-crown—I picked it up and gave it to the policeman—I made inquiry at No. 26, Little Gray's-inn-lane, where the prisoner said he lodged—he was not known there—I also inquired at the other Gray's-inn-lane—he was not known there—at the station-house he said it was very possible I might bring forward a good half-crown.

Cross-examined. Q. Was it day-light? A. It was between four and five o'clock—I searched for what he threw down, instantly—nobody assisted me.

JOHN FIELD . I am an inspector of coins to His Majesty's mint. One of these half-crowns is a counterfeit—the other is good.

Cross-examined. Q. Is the counterfeit one well executed? A. Tolerably well—it might impose on a person not fully acquainted with coin—it might be supposed to be a good one, lying on the counter for two minutes.

Prisoner's Defence. The statements of the witnesses are entirely false.

GUILTY . Aged 29.— Transported for Life.

Before Mr. Justice Park.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-721
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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721. JAMES WRIGHT alias Davis was indicted for uttering a counterfeit shilling to Nathaniel Smith, having been previously convicted as a common utterer of counterfeit coin.

The HON. MR. SCARLETT conducted the Prosecution.

CALEB EDWARD POWELL . I produce a copy of the record of the conviction of James Wright, at this Court, in February, 1835—I have examined it with the original record in Mr. Clark's office, and it is a true copy (read).

JOHN GREEN . I am a policeman. I was in attendance in February Sessions last year, when the prisoner was tried in the New Court—he is the person who was tried for the offence mentioned in the record.

DANIEL GARDINER . I am a brush-maker, and live in Wood-street, Spitalfields. The prisoner came to my shop on Thursday, the 11th of February, and asked for a sixpenny comb—I served him—he offered me half-a-crown—I gave him two shillings change—he walked out of my shop, which being rather dark, I followed him to the door with the half-crown in my hand, to look at it by the light—I perceived at the moment that it was a very bad one—I walked after him, and told him he had given me a bad half-crown—he was then talking to another man, and showing him the comb—he said he was sorry, but he had got no more money about him, I must take back the two shillings and the comb—I told him that would not do for me, for I saw another half-crown in his right hand—I had seen the other man slip it into his hand—he then gave it to me and asked if that would do—I have it now—it is a good one—I said they were regular passers of bad money—I took him to the station-house, and gave the policeman the bad half-crown, having marked it.

PATRICK LARKIN . I am a policeman. I received the half-crown from Gardiner, which I produce—the prosecutor gave the prisoner into my charge—I searched him, and found on him two good shillings, a comb, and a pen-knife—he was discharged before the Magistrate on this charge.

NATHANIEL SMITH . I keep a chandlers's shop in Upper Thames-street. The prisoner came to my shop on the evening of the 8th of February, and asked for a penny loaf—I put it down on the counter to him—he laid down a counterfeit shilling—I looked at it, and he asked me if I thought it was a bad one—I weighed it in the steelyard and found it light—I think

I told him it was bad, and asked if he had any other—he said no, and that he said he got it in the lane—I suppose he meant Rosemary-lane—I sent for an officer, and gave him in charge.

Prisoner. It was dropped on the floor, and was searched for with a candle. Witness. It fell on the floor, but I picked it up instantly—it was not searched for.

WILLIAM TARRANT . I took the prisoner into custody, and received a counterfeit shilling from Smith—I searched the prisoner, but he had no other money about him.

MR. FIELD. This shilling is counterfeit, and the half-crown also.

GUILTY . Aged 23.— Transported for Life.

Before Mr. Justice Gaselee.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-722
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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722. ANN alias Mercy COOK was indicted for feloniously uttering a counterfeit shilling to Mary Grady, having been previously convicted as a common utterer of counterfeit coin.

CALEB EDWARD POWELL . I produce a copy of the record of the conviction of Ann Cook—I compared it with the original record, in the office of the Clerk of the Peace for Middlesex, in the Sessions-house (read).

JOHN FISHWICK SUMMERSELL . I am a turnkey of the House of Correction. I was in Court when the prisoner was tried for the offence mentioned in the record—I know her to be the person.

MARY GRADY . I am turned ten years old. On the 25th of February I was keeping my mother's stall, in Broad-street, she sells tapes and cottons—the prisoner came to me, and asked me if I had change for a shilling—I said I had not got it—she told me to go into the gin shop, and get her change for a shilling—there was one just by, kept by Mr. Cockhead—I went there with the shilling which she gave me, and offered it to be changed—he told me to go and tell the woman to come in, and I did so.

Prisoner. How long have you known me? Witness. I cannot remember how long, I knew you before, and have seen you at my mother's at dinner.

RICHARD COCKHEAD . I keep the Rose and Crown, in Broad-street, St. Giles, This child came to me to change a shilling, the moment I saw it, I asked her who gave it to her, she told me, and she went out at my desire—the prisoner came in, and asked what I meant by detaining her shilling—I had that moment laid it down on the counter—I told her it was a bad one, and she ought to know better—she said, "If you will not change that, change this, or this," throwing down two more—a constable came to the door just at that moment, and I gave her into custody, and gave him the two shillings she had thrown down—I marked the first shilling, and produce it.

Prisoner. Q. You know I used to have plenty of money? A. I have had 2l. or 3l. at times to keep for her, which she had drawn a little at a time.

WILLIAM SMITH . I was no duty passing the prosecutor's house, and took the prisoner into custody—he gave me two shillings, which I produce—I searched her, and found three halfpence on her—she was rather in liquor, but knew what she was about.

MR. FIELD. These two shillings are counterfeit, and the first also, and they are all impressed from the same mould.

Prisoner's Defence. I did not know they were had—I had been drinking with the child's mother all day—I pawned my cloak for two shillings—I sent the child, thinking it was a good shilling.

GUILTY .* Aged 64— Transported for Life.

(The prisoner had been convicted five times before.)

Before Mr. Justice Park.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-723
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceMiscellaneous > fine

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723. MARY CONNER was charged, on the coroner's inquisition with unlawfully killing and slaying Edward Conner.

MORRIS CONNER . I am fourteen years old. I am the prisoner's son, and the boy who is dead was my brother—my mother sells fruit in the street—I remember one sunday, (I cannot tell how long ago,) my mother went out to sell fruit—she is a window—she left me and my brother Edward at home—she said she would be at home about four or five o'clock, and she told me to light a fire about four o'clock, and boil a bit of meal—I did not do so—I had just lighted the fire, when she came home—I had not put on the meat, she was very angry at it—I asked if I should take the basket off her head, she said, "No, why did you not light the fire before?"—I was saucy, I am apt to be so—I was very such to her that night—she is obliged to strap me sometimes—I do not know what she was going to do then, but she was very angry, and I outside the door—my brother was in the room when I went out—it was dark, there was no light there—my mother did mot speak to my brother when she came in—I do not know whether she saw him—he was four years and eight months old—I staid outside the door—I did not go down stairs—I said I was glad I had not lighted the fire, and then ran out of the room—I had not been out a minute, before I heard my brother sing out, "Oh, mammy, mammy"—I came back to the room about eight or nine o'clock, and slept with my brother—I did not see that anything was the matter with him—he was not asleep when I came home—my mother said, "You are a nice boy, see how I have bit the child on the head"—we all slept together in one bed—she said she had hit him on the head with the poker—I do not know on what day he was taken to the hospital—my mother appeared very sorry when she heard how ill he was.

Prisoner Q. Did not I take child to the doctor's directly? A. Yes; she did that night, to Mr. Appleton.

JAMES APPLETON . I live on Holborn-hill. The prisoner lived on Saffron-hill—I remember her bringing a child, about four or five years old, to me one Sunday evening—I do not remember the date—it had a perforated wound on the forehead—I could not discover any part of the brain—it was not deep enough—I advised her to take it to the hospital—I have not seen the poker—I advised some simple application for the present—I do not remember that I saw the child again.

ARTHUR SQUIRE . I am a house surgeon at St. Bartholomew's Hospital. I remember the child being brought to the hospital by the prisoner, who seemed in great distress—it was early in the November—I do not remember the day of the month—I found a small fracture right through the skull, in the upper part of the left side of the forehead—I did not ask her how it happened, nor did she tell me—I saw a poker at the Inquest—that was exactly such an instrument as night have produced a wound an the head the child died on the 11th of February—I believe it lived exactly three months, to a day the head was opened after death—the child had a of the brain, and a great deal of fluid chused into the

brain—it died of water on the brain—I have no doubt in saying that if such a blow was given, as is supposed, it might have produced death—I have no hesitation in saying, that blow caused the death of the child—the prisoner appeared on great distress when I saw her—she came several times to see the child—for same time it appeared to be doing well, but afterwards an unfavourable change took place—the membranes covering the brain were exposed when I first saw the child.

ELIZABETH SOBEE . I am a sister of St. Bartholomew's Hospital. I remember the child being brought here—the prisoner came afterwards to see it, and always appeared in great distress—when she brought the child in I was very busy, and did not hear what she said; but a few days afterwards she said she had been out all day selling fruit, and came home at night expecting her supper ready—she was very angry with the boy because he had not got it, and he was very saucy to her—that she took the poker, intending to frighten him, but he went out of the room, and the little boy who she did not see came in, and it bit him—she said she had thrown the poker.

DANIEL HILL . I am a beadle of cornhill. I took the prisoner into custody—she gave me the same account as the last witness—she showed me a poker herself—it is not here—it was a short stump of a poker—their room is a small one, in a Court in Saffron-hill.

Prisoner's Defence. It happened in the way I told the witnesses.

(—Plenty, a machine-maker: Jane Barnley, a widow; John Chapman, an orange and not-merchant; Jane M'Carthy;—Bresnen, a fruiterer; and Norah Sullivan, gave the prisoner a good character for humanity.)

GUILTY — Fined One shilling, and Discharged

Before Mr. Justice Gaselee.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-724
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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724. ROBERT VANDEVEL was indicated for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Wetherill Hartley, on the 14th of February, at St. Pancras, about 8 in the night, with intent to steal and feloniously and burglariously stealing therein, 451bs. of tea, value 10l.; 1 thimble, value 1s.; and 112 farthings; the monies and goods of the said William Wetherill Hartley.

WILLIAM WETHRILL HARTLEY . I am a grocer, and carry on business in Brewer-street, Somer's-town, in the parish of St. Pancras. I reside at No.67, Pratt-street, Camden-town—my wife carries on the business of the shop, with the assistance of a shopman, named James—I do not know his other name—he lives and sleeps in the house—there are lodgers in the house—my house was broken open no Sunday, the 14th of February—I had attended to business that morning in the shop—unfortunately, I open on Sunday morning—I am collector of poor rates for St. Pancras, and am engaged the whole week in that occupation—on Sunday morning my wife generally remains in Pratt-street and I generally go down to look after the business in Brewer-street—both the houses are in St. Pancras parish—the shopman was also there that day—I left at a little after twelve o'clock on Sunday morning, the shopman left with me—I left nobody in the house—every door and window were fastened and locked, I believe, expect the room occupied by three young gentlemen, who merely deep in the house—their door was not locked, they are not in the habit of locking it—the shopman is always at home at ten o'clock at night—the father of the young gentlemen lives in the same street, and if the shopman is not at home, they wait there till he comes home—I locked the street door and

put the key in my pocket, and also the key of the padlock at a partition, which I draw up to form a private passage from the door to the shop—the shopman came to Pratt-street about half past nine o'clock that night to have his supper—he did not remain longer than a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes—I then gave him the keys of the outer door, and padlock, and he went away—nobody slept in that house beside the shopman and the lodgers—there was no female servant—I retired to rest almost immediately after the shopman left, and I should think about twenty minutes or half past ten o'clock, Mr. John Sands came and gave me some information, in consequence of which I got up and dressed myself, and went with him to the shop—I found the door closed—I knocked—and the door being opened, I saw a policeman, the shopman, and the other two Mr. Sands' in the shop—as soon as I entered I saw several of the smaller canisters had been taken out of the frame, or case, and a quantity of tea scattered about on the counter, and in the scales, which remained on the counter—I went round the back of the counter, and found the canisters on the floor, emptied of their contents, expect about half or three-quarters of a pound in each—I suppose I missed from 45 to 50 lbs. weight of tea—I found the till drawn out, and misssed a quantity of farthings, which I had left in it on Sunday morning—I then went towards the kitchen, which is a room at the back of the shop—I found that door had been broken open—it appeared as if it had been tried six times by a small crow-bar—there were six marks on the door. as if it had been tried by a crow-bar—I went to the back part of the room, and found my wife's work-box, which was generally licked, broken open—the lid was open, and there was the mark of a small chisel on it—I missed a piece of sealing-wax from another small cotton-box, the lid of which draws out—I went over the whole of the house, and found all the locks open—I belive a thimble was lost from my wife's work-box—I have not got any of my property back again.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. This house is in Brewer-street? A. Yes, it consists of a residence and a shop, in which I carry on my business as a grocer—I really do not recollect my young man's name—we call him James—he had been in my employ three months—he sleeps there every night—he is not here—I asked the Magistrate if it was neceesary, as we must have shut up the shop if he had come—I saw nothing of the premises from twelve o'clock in the day till I was called to them after ten o'clock at night—I have only one street-door—the door of the kitchen behind the shop is an inner door communicating with the shop—the young men had no key of my door, not to my knowledge—they are most respectable young men—I generally took care of the key of the door, and did so on Sunday—the young men are never at home in the day-time—they go out at seven in the morning, and their sister comes and makes their bed—there is a shop-front to the house—the shutters had been down during the hours of business—the windows and doors were all secured—I did not go into all the rooms—I locked two of the back-room doors—I went up into the back-room, first-floor, and into the shop and kitchen—I think I went down stairs, but cannot be certain—there is an area to the house—there is no window in the area—it is not a kitchen, but a sort of warehouse, or lumber-room—it never has been plastered—I cannot be positive to the time the young men's sister made their had an that Sunday morning—she generally comes between eight and nine o'clock, while we are at breakfast—I recollect her coming that Sunday at the usual time—it must have been from eight to ten o'clock—I shut up at eleven, and staid untill

twelve, while my young man washed and dressed himself—I had seen the piece of sealing-wax on the Friday evening—I have no partner.

JAMES SANDS . I am an engraver, and lodge at Mr. Hartley's. On Sunday morning, the 14th of February, I went out at a little before seven o'clock, and came back about ten or fifteen minutes after ten o'clock at night—I found Mr. Hartley's shopman, James, at the door—he had just unlocked it—my brothers were with me—we all came home together—I went in first, and the shopman, James, followed—he struck a light, and I observed the things scattered about the shop as Mr. Hartley has described—I sent my brother John to Mr. Hartley—I went myself for a police-constable, and took him back to the shop—I found whoever had come in must have come in at the front door with a false key—whoever came into the front door must have forced the cheek off one of Bramah's patent locks, and forced the shutters in the passage back.

Cross-examined. Q. But was any violence used to the outer door? A. None at all.

MARTIN M'HALE (police-constable S 201.) On Sunday night, the 14th of February, about half-past twelve o'clock, I was going up from King's-cross towards the gas factory, and heard a cry of children—I went on towards where it came from, till I came to a house of ill-fame, in a place commonly known by the name of of Back-walk—I looked in at the window, and saw the prisoner and another man fighting, and a woman struggling with them—I took them both into custody for fighting—I searched the prisoner, and found in his pocket four sovereigns, 1l. 12s. in silver, 1s. in pence and half-pence, and 112 farthings, a skeleton-key, a latch-key, a thimble, and a piece of sealing-wax—he was asked where he got the money—he would not tell—he was asked how much he had got—he did not tell, but he said it was his own many—he was asked where he got the thimble—he said it was his own, and the wax was also his own.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you not forgotten to tell my Lord that this man was drunk when you took him? A. He was drunk—I looked at the prosecutor's outer door—I did not try this skeleton key to it—the house is not on my beat—I did not take the prisoner on a charge of robbery—he was as far from the prosecutor's house as from here to Holborn-bridge—he might have got much further if he had chosen in that time.

MR. HARTLEY re-examined. My sealing-wax was similar to this piece—about this size—I had used it to tip a pipe with about nine o'clock on Friday evening—I will not swear to it, but I have no doubt of it in my own mind—here is the mark of the pipe.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Have you looked at the small skeleton key? A. Yes—I do not belive I could open my door with it—my key is a great deallarger.

HANNAH HARTLEY . I am the prosecutors's wife. I bought this thimble fifteen months ago—I saw it on the Saturday night at twelve o'clock—I left it in my work-box on a table in the kitchen, adjoining the shop—it was locked, and I had the Key in my pocket—on Saturday evening I took 3s. 6d. worth of farthings from one person, and put them into a tin box in the till—I saw that tin box on the Sunday evening, out of the till, on the counter, and quite empty.

Prisoner's Defence I am innocent of the charge, which I can prove by witnesses.

RICHARD JOHN ELLIOTT . I keep the Duke of Kent public-house, in

Peter-street, Southward-bridge-road. I have known the prisoner about eight months, as serving me with glass—he was at my public-house on Sunday, the 14th of February—he came at five o'clock or within a few minutes, and remained till half-past ten o'clock—a person came with him, and staid with him till half-past ten o'clock—the witness Roberts is the man—they were smoking and drinking—my house is about three miles from King's-cross.

JOHN ROBERTS . I am a porter. I have known the prisoner eleven or twelve months—on Sunday, the 14th of February, I met him in Farringdon-street, between ten and eleven o'clock in the morning—he is a hawker of glass—I went with him to the Greenwich railroad, and after-wards to a public-house in the Mint, in Peter-street, close to some ruins—Mr. Elliot served the beer—I cannot tell whether he was the landlord—we got there between four and five o'clock. and staid till it might be twenty minutes after ten o'clock, or half-past—I remained there with him till then. COURT. Q. Where did you go when you left him? A. I went home to my bed—I lodge in Little Bell-street, John-street, Smithfield.

GUILTY of breaking and entering, but not burglariously. Aged 25.

Transported for Life.

Second Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-725
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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725. WILLIAM BONE was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of January, 1 shilling the money of Alexander Ing, from his person.

ALEXANDER ING . I live just by the Swan on Finchley-common, about half a mile from Whetstone. I know Friern Barnet—it is in Middlesex, about a mile from Hartfordshire, I believe—I am sure it is in Middlesex—I was at the Bricklayers' Arms, at Friern Barnet, on the 25th of January—I went there to have a pint of beer—I sold a shovel there to Frederick Hattersley, for 2s.—the prisoner was sitting in the corner when I went in, and he asked me to give him some beer—I gave him some—he asked me several times to lend him sixpence, or pay for a pot of beer for him—I said I had no money to lend—he said he would be d—if he did not see, and he threw me backwards across his knees—hr forced his hand into my right-hand jacket pocket, and then into my watch-fob, and took a shilling—I am sure I had a shilling in my fob—I had seen it there a quarter of an hour before—nothing had occurred by which I could have lost it—I saw it between his thumb and finger when he drew it out—he gave me a farthing and a piece of pencil back, which he had taken from my right-hand jacket pocket—I asked him to give me the shilling—he said the farthing and pencil was all he had got—I said I should fetch an officer if he did not return the shilling—I did so—the prisoner was in company with two or three more at the public-house—he had removed from the Bricklayers' Arms, when I went with the officer, with his companions, and he was taken at a beer-shop, about two hundred yards from the Bricklayers' Arms—the same party were still with him—there were four of them—when I gave him into custody, one of them came round to me, and asked if I meant to give him in charge—I told him I had done so—that was in the prisoner's hearing—the man then struck me violently—the prisoner was taken away in custody.

Prisoner. Q. Did not you lend me fourpence? A. No—he asked me to lend him eightpence—I am quite certain I saw the shilling between his thumb and finger—I saw the lion on it in his hand—it was a shilling with a lion and crown—I was sober.

JOHN SMITH . I am a Bow-street patrol. On the afternoon of the 25th of January, Ing came to me and complained of being robbed—I went with him to the Bricklayers' Arms—the prisoner was not there—I found him at the Hand and Flower beer-shop—the prosecutor was sober—I see no difference in him now to what he was then—he ran to my house for me, and walked back with me to the house, as sober as he is at this moment—two persons, named Peet and Banks, were at the beer-shop also—I told the prisoner he was my prisoner—he was charged with feloniously robbing Alexander Ing of one shilling—Peet and Banks wanted to return the shilling back to the prosecutor—they asked him if he would take the shilling back which he said he had robbed him of, and they proposed to pay me for my trouble—that was in the prisoner's hearing—I was taking him out of the house at the time the request was made to me and the prosecutor—I told them I could not do business in that way, I must take the case before a Magistrate, and he must decide on it—I did not find any shilling on the prisoner—both Peet and Banks spoke, but Peet was the man who requested the shilling to be paid back—he said, "Will you take the shilling back, and say no more about it?" and offered to pay me for my trouble—no money was produced—I said I would not suffer it—I found nothing relating to this charge on the prisoner—the beer-shop is about two hundred yards from the Bricklayers' Arms—they were drinking a pot of beer when I entered the room, and called for two pots of beer after I went in, which was paid for, but I don't know whether the shilling was paid or not.

Prisoner. We had but one pot of beet. Witness. The one you had when I went in was nearly empty, and two were had in afterwards—I knew I could not prevent it.

FREDERICK HATTERSLEY . I keep a little grocer's shop at Totteridge. I was at the Bricklayers' Arms on the 25th of January—I had some refreshment there—the prosecutor sold me a shovel for two shillings, which I paid him—I changed half-a-crown, and gave him the two shillings directly—I did not see what sort of shillings they were—I went away before the scuffle took place.

ALEXANDER ING re-examined. I paid for five pints of beer and half an ounce of tobacco out of my money—I had only one shilling and a farthing left—I had owed for three of the pints before—I had two at that time—they came to tenpence, and half an ounce of tobacco came to one penny three farthings—it was a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes after I paid for the beer that the prisoner threw me down—I had done nothing to loss the shilling—I recollect putting it into my fob, and it was safe till he took it out.

Prisoner Q. Did not you go out and get change, because you would not pay the landlady for the two pots of beer which you owed her? A. I went next door for the tobacco—it was not to avoid paying for what I owed—I did pay what I owed.

Prisoner. I would ask Frederick Hattersley if he did not leave him to pay for it?

FREDERICK HATTERSLEY re-examined. I paid for some beer—I paid for two pots which he had on the shovel—I drank once out of one pot of beer, and he had the rest—I did not notice that he gave any to any body—I think it was two pots—I paid 8d.

ALEXANDER ING re-examined. We had the two pots on the bargain of the shovel—I owed for three pints which I had had that week—I work

opposite the house—I paid for a pot that time, and as soon as the bargain was made for the shovel I paid for one pot of beer, and Hattersley paid for two more—we had three pots—I drank rather better than a pint from the first pot—I gave it to Bone, and he gave it to his companions—I only drank once out of it, and it did not come to me again—Hattersley drank out of the second pot, then Banks caught it up and drank—I paid for one pot out of a shilling, independent of the bargain for the shovel, and three pints which I had had in the week time—the men in the place partook of the beer I paid for.

Prisoner's Defence. I never had a farthing of his money, except the 4d. which he lent me—he sold the shovel for 2s., and it cost Hattersley 2s. 8d., for he had to pay for two pots of beer.

ALEXANDER ING re-examined. Hattersley paid for the beer without any dispute—I did not lend the prisoner 4d.

GUILTY . Aged 27.— Transported for Life.

(see Fourth Session, page 404.)

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-726
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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726. JOHN ROLFE was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of February, 1 handkerchief, value 1s., the goods of William Gibson, from his person.

WILLIAM GIBSON . I live in Meline-place, St. John's-wood—I am in no profession now. On the 13th of February, between three and four o'clock. I was going to Russell-square from Tottenham-court-road—I was in Gower-street—a number of boys came up and said my pocket was picked—I missed a handkerchief from my pocket, worth about 2s. 6d.—they pointed out the prisoner, who was running, with two others close by him—one was a man-boy, and two men, the prisoner being one—I did not see them till they were pointed out—I followed and secured the prisoner.

CHARLES CORNISH . I live with my mother in North-crescent, Tottenham-court-road. I saw three men standing at the corner of Alfred-place, nearest Tottenham-court-road, at the north end—the prisoner was one of them, I am certain—they seemed to be talking together—I saw the prosecutor pass—the three men followed him—they walked about the same pace as he went, and got close up to him—I saw the shortest one take the handkerchief out of his pocket—he laid hold of it, and pulled it out two or three inches at a time—it seemed a red handkerchief, with yellow or white spots on it—he passed it to one of the others, and he, I believe, passed it to a third, but I am not sure—the one who had it last, put it in his pocket—the prisoner was with the other men, but I don't believe he had the handkerchief at all—he was close to them, so as to see what the shortest one did, (a little behind, but kept up with them)—after the man put it in his pocket they ran across the road—the prisoner stopped when he got across—that was by Chenies-street, at the corner of Gower-street, just past Alfred-mews—the prosecutor secured him—the one who had the handkerchief in his pocket cried, "Stop thief," when they got up into Gordon-square.

Prisoner's Defence. I did not run at all—I was coming sharply up the street on the left-hand side—the thieves were on the right—the gentleman came up and said, "You have robbed me," and struck me in the face with his stick—it was full twenty minutes before I was given in charge—two boys came to Hatton-garden to say I was not with them, but the officers would not let them in.

WILLIAM HENRY COOPER . I am twelve years old, and live with my

father, in John-street, Fitzroy-square. I was in North-crescent at the time this alarm was given—the prosecutor was walking along—the three men were talking at the corner of Alfred-place, and they all three followed him—they came up with him—the little one walked on first, and then took the handkerchief out of his pocket—it was a red one, with white or yellow spots—the little one passed it to one of the other men, and at last one of them put it in his pocket—they then crossed the road, and seeing me and some more boys go up and tell the gentleman, they began running—I heard no cry of "Stop thief"—they crossed the street—the gentleman gave the prisoner in charge—he had stopped before the gentleman came up to him.

WILLIAM GIBSON re-examined. My handkerchief was an India bandannah, with yellow or white spots—it was off the same piece as this one ( producing one)—the prisoner kept on the west side of the street—the other two crossed to the other side—I was in Gower-street when they got up to me—I had come down Goodge-street.

CHARLES CORNISH . It was a handkerchief like the one produced.

Prisoner. I was going to a person named Jackson, in the New-road, in Gower-street—I saw three persons pass me—two of them crossed the road—the other I lost sight of—the gentleman came up, and accused me of the theft—I denied it, and stopped with him till the policeman came up, but he gave me into custody. Witness. I am certain the prisoner is one of the three.

Q. Did you see his features? A. If it was not him, it was very much like him—I saw three men who did as I have described—I saw no fourth man, except the prosecutor—I have no doubt at all of the prisoner.

WILLIAM HENRY COOPER re-examined. I am certain of the prisoner, he had his hat on—(the prisoner was here desired to put his hat on)—he is the man—he had not the same handkerchief on as he has now, but a kind of blue handkerchief—I noticed that when I saw him with the other two.

WILLIAM DODD . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner into custody in Gower-street—I searched him, but found no property on him relating to the present charge—I was in Tottenham-court-road when I received the information—when I came up, he was surrounded by a mob—there was a whole group of boys round, as well as these two, and they all seemed to tell the same story.

Prisoner. It is false—they were the only two that said I was the man—the others said I was not the man.

WILLIAM GIBSON re-examined. Nobody gave me a different account of it—a great many boys, who had been at play, ran up to me and said, those men had robbed me—I followed the prisoner, and called out "Stop thief," as loud as I could—I stopped a long time with the prisoner before the policeman came up, and he wanted to resist.

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-727
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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727. ROBERT PULSFORD was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of January, 11 loaves of bread, value 6s., the goods of Benjamin Taylor Nelson.

MR. JONES conducted the Prosecution.

ADOLPHUS RICHARD HOOPER . I am in the employ of Mr. Benjamin Taylor Nelson. It was my duty to take out bread to his customers—I

went out with it, in the 20th of January; an near Portman-square I saw the prisoner—he wished me good morning, and asked me if Jem had left, whom I understood to be the young man I had succeeded—he asked me to have something to drink, which I refused—I left him, and went about my business—I saw him again about half an hour after, at the corner of George-street, Portman-square he said he used to have dealings with Jem, Mr. Nelson's late man—I asked him in what way—he said if I would come in and have a pint of beer, he would explain to me—I went into a public-house with him, and we had a pint of beer—he said the way he used to do it was, before the governor was up in the morning; and if I had a few leaves to dispose of, he would be very happy to receive them—I told him I could not do business exactly in that way—he said he could assure me it was quite safe, for he had carried it on ever since Mr. Nelson's late man had lived there, except a few days—I told him I would think of it, and then I told him I would meet him at the public-house, next door to master's, at seven o'clock that evening, but I did not see him till the Wednesday following, (the 27th,) when I met him in Portman-square, about half-post twelve o'clock—he said he had been in the country for a few days, and asked me if I could let him have some bread—I said if he would come down in the morning, I would let him have some—we then parted—I went out with my small bread about, a quarter before seven o'clock next morning, and he was standing by the public-house next door to master's—I told him my master was up—he said, "Oh, the devil he is!"—I said, "Yes"—he said, "Then it is no go"—I said I would meet him at seven o'clock that evening, at the Alsop's Arms, New-road—I went there and saw him—we had two pints of beer—he paid for one, and I the other—I told him to come down to the shop in the morning, and I would let him have some—he did come about half-past six or a quarter to seven o'clock, an brought a basket—he did not speak to me—he took eight half-quartern loaves off the the counter, and three off the weighing machine, and put them into his basket—he then put it on his back, and walked out of the shop with them—I did not see him again till next morning, about half-past six o'clock—when he came into the shop, and my master made his appearance with Dutch, the officer, and he was taken into custody—he had the basket with him then—he had agreed to give me 1d. for each quartern loaf—the price is 7d.—he said he had bought them of Gates at 3 1/2 d.—I had no conversation with my master on this subject till the 27th—the appointment I afterwards made was with his concurrence.

Cross-examined by MR. MAGUIRE. Q. When did you first meet the prisoner? A. On the 20th of January—I had then been living three days with the prosecutor—before that I lived seventeen Weeks with Mr. Stewart, of Pimlico—I did not tell the prisoner I had been out of employ seventeen weeks, and was very poor—I do not think I could tell him so—I will not swear I did not—my master gave me 11s. a week—I did not tell him it was too little, and I must have something else for myself—I did not advise the prisoner to take lodgings near Mr. Nelson's—I will swear I did not—I never went to his lodgings—I do not know where he lived—it was somewhere in Tottenham-court-road—I do not remember telling him if he would keep his counsel I would keep mine—I told him not to mention it to the foreman. I never said I would call in the morning when I went round with my leaves.

Q. When he came into the shop on the morning of the 29th, you pointed

is the bread which you had put ready for him? A. No, I can take my oath of that—there had been eight loaves on the counter—I did not put them there for him, nor point to them.

BENJAMIN TAYLOR NELSON . I am a baker, and live in Paddington-street. Hooper came into my employ about the 16th of January—he was engaged nearly a week before—I had reason to suppose I had been robbed of bread—I had a servant named Gates, whom O discharged, and Hooper came in his place—he gave me information the first week he was in my employment—I think about the Thursday or Friday—I am not certain to the particular day—he told me of his meeting with the prisoner, and what had passed—I was aware that he was about to call on the morning of the 29th, and I suffered Hooper to receive him, to see what he would do—from the time Hooper communicated with me, he acted entirely with my concurrence—the prisoner was never a customer of mine—I was present when he was taken into custody—the policeman asked him what he was doing there—he said he had come for some bread—the policeman said, "Are you going to pay for it?—he said, "No, but I suppose I must some time or other"—I saw him searched—no money was found on him—the price of a four-pound loaf was 7d. at that time—John Gates always went by the name if Jem in my service.

Cross-examined. Q. Is bread never sold except to individuals whom you know? A. I never authorize it to be done—if a person comes to the shop and asks for bread, my shopman is authorized to sell it.

DANIEL DUTCH . I am a constable of Marylebone police-office. I was at Mr. Nelson's premises on the morning of the 30th of January, and saw the prisoner there about a quarter-past six o'clock, and took him into custody—he had a basket with him—I searched him, and found an account-book a pencil, and penknife on him, but no money.

Cross-examined. Q. He said he came to buy bread, did he not? A. No—I asked him if he wanted to buy bread—he said, "No, I do not"—I was in the parlour when he came in at the shop door, and I came out to him immediately.

COURT. Q. Were you inside the house before the prisoner came? A. Yes; I was in there at half-past four o'clock in the morning, and waited—I saw the door very gently open, then the basket was put in very gently, and then he came in himself.

(William Adlicot, of Little York-place, New-road; and Ann Jackson; of Devonshire-street, Paddington; gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 35.— Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-728
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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728. JOHN GATES was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of December, 2 loaves of bread, value 6d., the goods of Benjamin Taylor Nelson, his master.

MR. JONES conducted the Prosecution.

EDWARD GIBBS . I live in Dorchester-street, Marylebone—I did live in Boston-street. I know the prisoner—he applied to me to make him a pair of shoes about the beginning of November or the end of October—he asked if I would take the payment out in bread—I said I would in a week or two, but it was not convenient to make them then—I made them afterwards, and delivered them to him—they came to 10s. 6d.—I made a pair of shoes also for a person he called his fellow-servant—I don's know who it was, but he used to come with him—I was to be paid for them also in bread the bread was left at my place till I left Boston-street, and after

that it was left with Mrs. Mitchell by Gates or his associate or companion—the shoes were fetched from me—I almost forget who fetched them—I saw the prisoner afterwards, and he said they fitted him very well, but were rather too large.

Q. How came you to take bread of the prisoner? A. He served a person on the first floor, and he came almost daily to the door with bread—I did not believe he sold it on his own account—I believed him to be a trusty servant—he told me he should make it good on his master—I left Boston-street about the 19th or 20th of November—at that time about six shillings had been paid—a four-pound loaf was charged at sixpence—he said he would let me have it at sixpence a loaf, and he was to make the difference good to his master—I sometimes paid sixpence for a loaf, and sometimes sixpence halfpenny—I used to get it at sixpence at the cheap baker's at the time—when I left Boston-street the prisoner owed me 4s. 6d.—Mrs. Mitheell lived in the next room to me, and I owed her 4s. 6d.—I told her, if she liked she could take it in bread of the prisoner, and she consented—the prisoner agreed to supply Mrs. Mitchell in my place.

COUNT. Q. How came you (dealing with so young a lad) to take bread which you must have known belonged to his master? A. I considered there was nothing underhanded in the transaction, and he could make it good to his master—he said it was an accommodation to him to pay his master at 3d. a time, and I thought he would sacrifice the halfpenny or penny on the loaf for the sake of having the shoes—I supposed he paid his master more money for the loaves, instead of paying me the 10s. 6d. at once—he did not say so—he promised to make it good to his master—he said he would make it all right with him—I was not the least conscious of the bread being stolen—I can sometimes buy bread at 5 1/2. a loaf.

HANNAH MITCHELL . In December last I lived at No. 13, Boston-street, in the same house as Gibbs—he left there about the latter and of November—he owed me 4s. 6d.—I agreed afterwards, about the 10th of December, to take it out in bread from the prisoner, who owed him 4s. 6d. worth of bread—I afterwards received bread from the prisoner—I cannot say to what amount, for after paying myself the 4s. 6d. I took bread from him still, and paid him for it—on the 10th of December I took in two half-quartern loaves of him.

COURT. Q. Was the price agreed on? A. Gibbs had told me the price—the two loaves would be sixpence.

BENJAMIN TAYLOR NELSON . The prisoner never accounted to me for bread sold to Gibbs or Mrs. Mitchell—I never had such customers—I did not know them by name or sight—he did not account to me on the 10th of December for two half-quartern loaves sold to Gibbs of Mrs. Mitchell—he never named them as customers—there was a deficiency of bread, but I did not know which of my servants to suspect.

Prisoner. It was counted out to me when I took it out, and I accounted for it in the evening—if I was deficient, I was accountable for it.

MR. NELSON. He never paid for any deficiency of bread—and account of what he carried out was entered in the ledger, and he gave an account of what he had done—it was always satisfactory.

Q. How do you account for this bread being your property? A. I cannot tell how he managed it—I had a customer in that house, in Boston-street, and he regularly took bread there—I am not aware that he

has charged me with leaving a larger quantity there than that customer has had.

EDWARD GIBBS re-examined. The prisoner never told me where he got the bread—he served me out of the same basket as he served Mr. Nelson's customer—he never told me how he was to account for it—he told me who his master was—I said to him on the first onset, "Then you will make the difference right with your master," meaning the penny a loaf—I knew I was having it at a penny less than his master sold it at—he said yes, he would.

MR. NELSON re-examined. He generally accounted to me, and sometimes to my wife, for the bread he took out—he had access to the bread during the whole of the night—the bread he took out was placed on the counter, and counted—he put into his basket himself, and might slip in more than was counted for him—I was up at eight o'clock in the morning, when he went out—he might often have more than was counted out to him—I sold the bread at 7d., which is the full price—other shops sell it from 6d. to 5d.


29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-729
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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729. JOHN GATES was again indicted for embezzlement.

MR. JONES conducted the prosecution.

ANN ROBSON . I am the wife of William Robson, and live in Foley-street. I am a customer of Mr. Nelson's—the prisoner supplied me with bread as his servant—on the 29th of December I paid him, on his master's account, 2s. 1d., for the weekly bill ending that day—on the 5th of January, I paid him 1s. 6d. on account of his master—and on the 14th of January 1s. 51/2d.—I paid it in silver, I believe—the last bill I know I paid in silver, and he gave me 1/2d. change—he has frequently signed the bills, but I have burnt them.

BENJAMIN TAYLOR NELSON . The prisoner was my servant, and was authorized by me to receive small weekly bills on my account, which he should account for immediately, as soon as he returned home, to me, or my wife—she is not here—I have the cash-book with me—he never paid me any money that is not entered in the cash-book—he paid no money on the 29th of December—It is entered in the cash-book—"No cash" is in my wife's handwriting that day—he did not tell me he received these sums from Mrs. Robson—he used to come home about six o'clock in the afternoon, I think—if I was out, he would pay me next morning—he had paid nothing from Mrs. Robson on the 30th—her name is not at all in the book between the 29th of December and the 5th of January—my wife and myself keep the book under his inspection—the entry on the 5th of January is Mrs. Nelson's—here is no entry from Mrs. Robson—on the 29th December there is entered. "No cash for three days," in my wife's hand-writing—It means that the prisoner paid no cash for three days—on the 5th of January there are two entries, one is "Johnson 6d.," and the other 4 1/2 d.—that entry relates to the prisoner, the whole of this account refers to him—we send him out with all the bills every Monday morning—the book was always before him when we asked him about his receipts—there is no entry on the 11th or 5th of January.

ANN ROBSON re-examined. I remember the dates of payment very well, because I had the two first bills—Mr. Nelson sent me a bill for the whole three weeks after the prisoner left, and then I said I had paid him—I

recollect paying it. I have entries in my accounts to show what sums I paid him on those days.

MR. NELSON re-examined. The book was always open to his inspection, and he was always asked if he had any more to enter—he paid over whatever he stated he had received—I am not aware that he was ever deficient in money which he said he had received—I have nothing to show he did not pay it, except the book—I discharged the prisoner of my own accord—I had some conversation with him about his accounts—I said I would not pay him the balance of his wages, as I suspected his accounts were not correct—he called on me on a Sunday morning in January, to ask whose was not correct—I said, "I do not believe Mrs. Robson's is correct, as she pays so regularly"—he said it was so, but that was the only one he was deficient in—that he had taken the money and not secounted for it—he left me in the middle of January—it was the Sunday after the 14th—he said it was the only account he had received the money for and not accounted for—my ledger was open, and the amount was pointed out to him—he gave no reason why he did not account for it—I owed him 1l. 2s. for a fortnight's wages—I used to pay him once a week, always keeping a week's wages in my own hand—if he received Mrs. Robson's money on the Monday it was his duty to account for it the same day—he had what bread, flour, and potatoes he wanted—there was always a week's wages in arrear—there was a fortnight's due when he left, but I refused to pay it on account of his deficiency—I generally paid him on Saturday or Sunday morning—he did not state that he was in want of money—I have often had bills returned as incorrect, there being more charged then the customers had.

Prisoner's Defence. The first week I went into his service he took 5s. from my wages—the second week 6s., which made 11s., which he held in hand all the time I was with him—on the Sunday morning, as I was leaving, I asked him for my wages, which was 1l. 2s. more—he said he would not pay me, as I was not right in my account; but when I returned from Bridghton he said he would keep Mrs. Robson's bill back, but pay me the difference—he says the book was always shown to me—it never was, and Mrs. Nelson very frequently made mistakes.

MR. NELSON re-examined. I said if I found his account right I would pay him the whole—I do not recollect saying I would keep Mrs. Robson's account back, and pay him the difference—I never knew my wife make mistakes—the book was always on the counter before the prisoner, and whenever I took money I always gave it to him to look over and see that it was right—I did not intend at first to charge this as a felony, but to deduct it from his wages.

GUILTY . Aged 22— Confined Three Months.

NEW COURT, Friday, March 4, 1836.

Sixth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-730
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceNo Punishment > sentence respited

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730. JOHN CASTLE was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of February, 1 sheet, value 3s.; 1 sack, value 1s.; and 1 brush, value 6d.; the goods of William Smith; to which he pleaded GUILTY. Aged 18— Judgement Respited.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-731
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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731. WILLIAM MERRISS was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of February, 1 cloak, value 7s., the goods of Horatio Hasleham; to which be pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 69.— Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-732
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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732. ADELINE DALE was indicted for stealing 2 shawls, 1 dress, 1 pair of boots, and a necklace; the goods of Thomas Fowler, her master; to which she pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 29.— Confined One Month.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-733
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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733. ENOCH PUGH was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of February, 30lb. weight of lead, value 8s., the goods of William Baylie and others.

WILLIAM BAYLIE . I am in partnership with Eliza Baylie and others; we are iron-plate workers, and live in Rosoman-street. I keep lead there—I have missed 39lbs.—this lead is all mine—I missed it—the prisoner has worked on our premises from a child.

Prisoner. At first he said he had not missed any lead—then he said he did not know what it was, whether lead or mixed metal. Witness. It is a mixture, but it is what we call lead.

RICHARD COPPING (police-constable C 2.) On the 29th of February I was just going out to look after the superintendant's horse, as I am groom to him—I saw the prisoner come out of the window through the back premises of Mr. Baylie's work-shop, with this lead on his person—I followed and took him with it—it was half-past one o'clock in the day.

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Six Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-734
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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734. THOMAS CALLAHAN was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of February, 1 coat, value 2l. 10s., the goods of Edward Sweeney.

EDWARD SWEENEY . I live in Castle-street, Leicester-square. On the 22nd of February I went to a house, No. 19, Castle-street, Leicester-square, with a few friends—we were all neighbours, and we staid there to spend half an hour—I had my coat on my back, and took it off, being very warm, and laid it on a box—I saw no more of the coat—the next morning I was informed about it—I was not quite sober when I went to Castle-street—I had been to a raffle—I was sober enough to see that I put the coat down on a box—it was a private house—when we got there it was between one and two o'clock in the morning—it is right opposite my door—this is my great-coat.

Prisoner. When I first met you, was it not at a public-house; and there were two or three girls with you drinking at the bar? Witness. No, I had my wife and sister with me—I did not meet him in a public-house—I never saw him in my life before—I was not in a public-house next door.

Prisoner Q. did not you ask me to drink a glass with you, which I did from your hands? A. No—I never saw the man till I saw him at the station.

Prisoner Q. Did not you have half-a-gallon of beer, and take it to the house over the way, and take it down stairs? A. Not to my memory—I was in Mr. Bryant's house in Castle-street—he is as respectable a man as any in the parish.

Prisoner. I did not mean to steal the coat, I had it on my arm.

WILLIAM BOND . I went with the prosecutor to a raffle in Frith-street, and then to Bryant's in Castle-street—the prosecutor was rather drunk—I

saw him take his coat off—I did not see where he laid it—after I had been in the house a short time, I came out with two friends, to go get some beer, and there I saw the prisoner—I shook hands with him, and got some beer, and came out and returned—the prisoner followed us, came down stairs in the private-house, and took a seat—after he had been there some time, it was discovered that he was stranger—he was shown out the house—as soon as he was gone the coat was missed—I followed him and called "Stop thief," and he was taken—I shook hands with him—I shake hands with any man, be he whom he many—I did not bring him into the private-house, he followed me—he was there, I dare say, nearly an hour—I did not know but what be might be a friend of one of the parties—two persons went with me to get the bear—we were in the person's place who owns the kitchen.

COURT. Q. Was he charged stealing the coat? A. No—for when he was taken to the station the prosecutor was not there—his wife was, and she would not lay the charge—I told him I took him for stealing the coat—he had only got across the way—he said he did not intend to steal it.

Prisoner. I had been employed to fetch the beer—I do not recollect seeing the man at all—I was intoxicated.

JAMES WHITE (police-constable C 62.) I was on duty—I saw the prisoner leave the house with the coat on his arm—he ran right towards me—that was not in the direction of the public-house—when he got within a few paces of me, he turned, and ran right from me—I pursued and took him with the coat.

GUILTY. Aged 24.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury .

Confined Six Months.

Before Mr. Baron Gurney.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-735
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment; Transportation

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735. JOHN LONGFORD was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of February, at Tottenham, Middlesex, 9 spoons, value 3l. 10s.; 1 sugar-basin, value 2l.; 1 cream-ewer, value 30s.; 1 salt-cellar, value 21s.; 1 sugar-ladle, value 20s.; 1 watch, value 25s.; and 1 watch-key, value 6d.; the goods of Elizabeth Howard, in her dwelling-house.

JOHN DAVIS . I am gardener to Miss Elizabeth Howard, who lives at Tottenham. Her house was robbed on the 10th of February last—I went in pursuit of the thief—it was between five and six o'clock in the afternoon—I took the prisoner, with the property on him, against the Bull public-house, in Tottenham, three-quarters of a mile from Miss Howard's—he was going towards London there was another one with him—as I approached them, they separated the one from the other—the one that was along with him went on the opposite side of the way, and joined two more men that had flowers on their head—I secured the prisoner, and gave him in charge to George Tappin, the constable—I saw him searched and the property that was lost was found on him.

GEORGE TAPPIN . I am a grocer by trade, but I am constable of Tottanham. The prisoner was given into my charge—I searched him, and found upon him a sugar-basin, cream-jug, a salt-cellar, a sugar-scoop, four teaspoons, two desert-spoons, two table-spoons, one salt-spoon, a metal watch, a smoke-frock, and a basket which the things were in, and three bottles, one with ketchup, and two empty; and on his person a pair of gloves, a watch, a key, and snuff-box.

MARY STATLLTON . I am in the service of Miss Howard. I saw a

man come into fore court, and make his way to the side gate, between five and six o'clock—I did not see him any more till he turned out of the fore court down the grove—that was about twenty minutes after I saw him came in—I thought, from the time he went out, that he had been into the house—I made my way down stairs to the pantry, and missed the plate which had been in the pantry; whoever took it, must have been in the pantry to get it—I gave the alarm to my fellow-servant—I am the house. maid—I have examined all this plate, and know it is my mistress's—it has initals on it—the prisoner is not the man.

JOHN GRIFFITHS . I am a constable of Tottheam. The prisoner had been apprehended when I went to the premises—I searched the prisoner, and found a key on him, which I have fitted to Miss Howard's gate, and it opened it.

ANN PACK . I am cook to Miss Howard. I remember the day the house was robbed—I saw the prisoner pass by the palisade gates in the road, about a quarter before five o'clock—he was alone—about two minutes after I saw the man that came into the house—he came in at the front gate—I saw him go out again—he was dressed in a dirty frock, very much like this frock—this is all the plate that was stolen.

COURT to JAMES GRIFFTHS. Q. Can you tell the value of that plate? A. I think it is upwards of 10l.

Prisoner's Defence. I went to Enfield on the same day—on coming home I met this man—who he was I don't know—he asked me to carry the basket, and I carried it.

GUILTY . Aged 28.— Confined Three Months, and then Transported for Life.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-736
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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736. CHARLES PHILLIPS was indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of June, 4 clocks, value 80l., the goods of Benjamin Lewis Vulliamy, his master, in his dwelling-house.

MR. DOANE conducted the Prosecution.

BENJAMIN LEWIS VULLIAMY . I reside at No. 68, Pall Mall, in the parish of St. James, Westminster. I am a watch and clock maker, empolyed by many of the government establishments—the prisoner was in my service in 1834, and had been so about seven years—I believed him, up to that time, to be an honest man—I should not have kept him if I had not—on the 23d of June he ceased coming to my house, without any apparent cause—I made enquiries and could not discover him—I made search about my premises, and missed four clocks—I have a very extension stock, so that it would be difficult to miss any—without my attention being called to it, I was not likely to discover it for some time—I had bills printed, and took every means to find the prisoner—in January last, in consequence of some information, I processed to Birmingham, and took a Birmingham policeman, and found the prisoner at work at a clock-maker's—I instantly took him on this charge, and went immediately to his lodgings—I made use of no promise or threat to induce him to make any statement to me—the prisoner said precisely this, "It is now all over; I may as well tell you where the four clocks are that I took"—he then described where he pawned them all four, describing the streets accurately, but he could not remember the names of the pawnbrokers—he gave me the name of Eaton-street, Pimlico; a pawnbroker's, in Prince-street; opposite Gerard-street; a pawnbroker's in Green-street, Leicester-square; and a pawnbroker's in Westminster-road, a little way on the left hand

side—he further told me he had pawned one clock in Eaton-street, in his own name; and the other three clocks in the name of Charles Johnson—I went to the three pawnbrokers he described, but found the three clocks had been all sold, being out of time—I found one at Eaton-street—we searched his drawers, in which he kept his tools, as soon as we ascertained he had run away, and found a clock-winder, which winds this clock.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Would that wind any other clock? A. Each clock has its own distinct winder—you will see a number on this winder, and on this clock—I have no partner in my business, and had not at that time—I had said nothing to him before he made this declaration. I had said nothing to him about these clocks before he made the declaration I have stated—I do not recollect any thing at all—the officer took him out of the house, and told me I must follow him to his lodgings which I did—he said, "It is all over," and then he told—I am sure I made him no intimation it would be better for him.

COURT Q. What is the number on this clock-winder? A. 848; and the clock to which it belongs will bear a corresponding number.

JOHN COTTON GRINDLEY . I am in the employ of Messrs. Page and Courtney, Lower Eaton-street, Pimlico—they are pawnbrokers. I was in their employ in March, 1834—a clock was brought there on the 5th of that month, and pledged in the name of Charles Phillips—it remained unredeemed—on the 9th of last January I sent it to Messrs. Robins, to be sold by auction—Mr. Clark, Robin's foreman, received it.

Cross-examined. Q. You don't remember who pledged it? A. No.

WILLIAM CLARK . I am in the employ of Messrs. Robins, the auctioneers. I produce a clock which I received from Messrs. Page and Courtney's young man—I cannot remember the date.

BENJAMIN LEWIS VILLAINY re-examined. Q. This clock is mine—it is No. 848—the value of it is 20l.

(William Harling, a clock-maker, of Charles-street, Goswell-road; and Edward Graves, a watch and clock-maker, of Goswell-terrace; gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY. Aged 29.—Recommended to mercy in consequence of his candid confession to his master, and his good character.— Transported for Life.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-737
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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737. ANN THOMPSON was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of James Crockett, on the 8th of February, at St. Luke, and stealing therein 2 gowns, value 10s.; 1 pair of boots, value 5s.; 1 shirt, value 3s.; 1 waist coat, value 1s. 6d.; 2 pillows, value 5s.; 2 pairs of stockings, value 3s.; 1 cap, value 4s.; 1 petticoat, value 2s.; 1 pair of shoes, value 1s. 8d.; 1 hand kerchief, value 6d.; of James Fordham; and 2 gowns, value 14s.; 1 pair of boots, value 7s.; 5 caps, value 5s.; 2 handkerchiefs, value 3s.; and 2 bonnets, value 20s.; the goods of Sophia Fordham.

JAMES FORDHAM JUN . I live at No. 3, Harper-street, Golden-lane. My father lives in Golden-lane, in the parish St. Luke—I and my wife went to my father's on the 8th of February—about three o'clock in the afternoon, my mother sent me for a pint of beer—I returned, and was in the doorway when this prisoner pased me coming out with a very large bundle—I saw a pair of boots which the bundle ddid not conceal—I said something to my mother, and in consequence of what she said to me, I went in pursuit of the prisoner—I followed her to Mr. Bass's, the pawnbroker's; which is about three hundred yards from my father's—I had hold of her and brought her

to my father's house, and my father and I took her to the station-house—the prisoner had a key in her hand—my father took it from her—I asked where she got it from—she said it was a key belonging to her lodging, where she paid 3s. 3d. a week; the policeman took the key and came with my father, and locked his door with the same key—it did not belong to my father—I afterwards went to the pawnbroker's again, and in the passage there where I met the prisoner, I found two pairs of books and a pair of children's shoes—they were behind where the prisoner stood, on a ledgeway.

LUCY LOUISA FORDHAM . I and my husband James Fordham lodge at No. 69, Golden-lane. James Crockett is the landlord—he lives in the house—we occupy the bottom premises and the back room one-pair—I remember on the 8th of February my son being there, and going out for beer—he came back and said something to me; in consequence of that I looked, and saw some of my property had been taken out of my bed-room—the back room; one pair—I afterwards saw the things that had been taken.

THOMAS PRENDIVILLE (police-constable G. 24.) I have the property which was taken on the prisoner—it has been in my keeping ever since—this is it.

LUCY LOUISA FORDHAM re-examined. These two gowns, one pair of shoes, and one pair of boots are mine—the value of my things is 16s. 6d.—this is all that has been found—we lost besides a cotton handkerchief, a cloth shirt, a Marseilla waistcoat anew white petticoat, and lace cap—the rest belong to my daughter—the pillows were removed but not taken away—the handkerchief is worth 6d.; the shirt 3s. the waistcoat 1s. 6d. the cap 4s.—I had locked the room myself within half an hour of the robbery—when I went up after the prisoner had been there, I found the door had been opened by a false key, which was taken from the prisoner.

SOPHIA FORDHAM . These two gowns are mine—I am single.

MARTHA ROBERTS . I lodge in the front room up-stairs, in the same house—about three o'clock in the afternoon of the 8th of February I went to get a roll for my tea—I came back, and saw the prisoner at the foot of the stairs—she said she was waiting for a person who was coming down—I asked her her name—she said, "Rachel" or "Burchell"—I went up and enquired, and there was no such person—I went down and told her she was mistaken—she said, "I cannot be mistaken; it is my sister"—I went away and left her there.

Prisoner's Defence. I am entirely innocent—I left my sister on the 8th of February, at half-past two o'clock in the afternoon—I was going into the city on business for my brother-in-law—going close by Golden-lane, a woman whom I never saw, came and asked me if I was going any distance—I said, "What is your reason for asking me?"—she said, "Would you have any objection to assist me with a few bundles from my lodgings?"—I said, "Where do you live?"—she said, "At Mr. Fordham's, in Golden-lane"—I went there—she desired me to wait a few minutes, while she went up-stairs—I waited two or three minutes—Mrs. Roberts said, "Are you waiting for any body?"—I said, "Yes, a young woman that lodges here; I think her name is Rachel"—she had asked me to go up-stairs, or wait, and I said, I would wait—she said, "If Mrs. Fordham says any thing to you, tell her you are waiting for Rachel"—Mrs. Roberts went up-stairs, and then the woman came down with two bundles—she gave me the largest and said, "You carry that, I am going into the yard"—I waited—she said, "Go on"—I went off the step of the door, and when I got two

or three houses off she followed me we went across Golden—lane, through two or three little alloys, and then we came in the pawnbroker's side door—she went in, and said she wanted to take something there—she then untied the bundle, and took something out—she placed the bundle by the side of me and placed the key on the bundle—she said "Will a shilling satisfy you?"—I said, "If I have done you any service, you are welcome"—she said, "Take care of this"—she went across the road, and never appeared the least agitated; and she went down the archway opposite—I waited there two or three minutes, and James Fordham came up to me and caught me by my shoulder, and said, "What have you there?"—I said, "What have I here? are you a man? I am pregnant; I don't like to he dragged about; these things are not mine, they belong to a woman who is gone across the road"—he never made any attempt to go after her; if he had, he would have found her, as there is no thoroughfare, but dragged me through the court, and took me to the station—house; and them I was taken to Worship—street. My Lord, I trust you will take it into your serious consideration; I can appeal to the Almighty for the truth of what I say: I had time to have gone to Smithfield.

(Sarah Reed, of No.2, Providence—place, Baker's—row, an upholsterer; Jane Prince; and John Joyce, an upholsterer; gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 28.— Transported for Life.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-738
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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738. WILLIAM GALE was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of February, I gelding, price 20l., the property of George Francis Rhodes.

GEORGE FRANCIS RHODES . I live at Sheffield, in Berks, in Harmonds--worth parish. I lost a gelding on the 21st of February, early in the morning—I saw it last in a stable adjoining my farm—yard—it was not locked—the door was shut—in consequence of information I went to the Magpie, on Hounslow heath, where the prisoner was taken—I came there on the Tuesday—morning, and I found the geldind there—the prisoner was taken about a mile from the Magpie, on the Sunday afternoon—I did not see him till me Tuesday, he remained in custody—he had worked for me in the harvest, for five or six weeks.

CHARLEY MORTON . I keep the Magpie, on Hounslow—heath. On sunday, the 21st of February, I received by the Bath coach some printed—bills describing a horse which was lost—about twenty minutes to five o'clock, the same afternoon, the prisoner came with a black gelding, which answered the description I had received—I asked him what he would sell it for—he asked me 14l.—I told him I should give him no such price—I then said, "I think you stole that house, you had better walk in," and I took him in—the house was worth about 25l. or 30l.—I asked him whose horse it was—he said his own—I sent to Mr. Rhodes immediately—he came and claimed the came house.

WILLIAM THOMPSON . I am a police—constable. The prisoner was delivered into my custody—I took him to the cage—he complained of the handcuffs being too tight—I undid one hand, and tied it with a handkerchief—he then made his escape and got into a ploughed field—I took him again with a good deal of struggling, and sent for my partner, and took him to the cage.

Prisoner's Defence. As I was on my journey I met this horse straying in the road—I could not find any owner for it—through my poverty and distress I took it.

GUILTY . Aged 30— Transported for Life.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-739
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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739. JOHN SAMUEL NEAR was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling—house of Thomas Ware, on the 8th of February, at St. Leonard's, Shoreditch, and stealing therein, 4 gowns, value 2l., 6s.; 1 handkerchief, value 15s.; 1 scarf, value 3s.; 1 shirt, value 2s.; 1 petticoat, value 1s. 6d.; 1 scarf, value 1s., 6d.; 1 sheet, value 1s.; 1 tea-pot, value 5s.; 1 thimble, value 1s. 6d.; 2 wine—glasses, value 2s.; 2 glass salts, value 6d.; and 4 shells, value 3s.; the goods of the said Thomas Ware.

ANN WARE . I am the wife of Thomas Ware, and live in Essex-street, Hoxton, in the parish of St. Leonard, Shoreditch. I only occupy one room—Mr. Pearce is my landlord—he is a schoolmaster—he dose not live in the house—he lets it out lodgings—the lodgers have each their separate rooms the prisoner lives in the next room to me, with his mother and father—this happened on Monday, the 8th of February—I went out about half—past one o'clock in the day—I left my room door locked and returned at half—past ten o'clock at night—I found my door open—I found the key belonging to the prisoner's father's room in my door—he goes out to work, and so does his mother—they have each a key—all the things stated were stolen—my boxes were turned upside down, the bottoms broken, and the property taken out—I missed four gowns, a tea-pot, a white shawl, a satin striped scarf, one bed—gown, four sheets, two wineglasses, one tumbler, two salt—sellers, one white petticoat, and one shirt, and some coloured merino—the merino was found on the prisoner—when I came home he could not be found any where—he was taken on the following Saturday, in Spitalfields—market.

JOHN VOLLER . I was a police—constable. I apprehend the prisoner in Spitalfields, on Saturday, the 13th of February—I found this piece of merino on him—I asked him some questions—I made use of no promise or threat—I asked him what he had done with Mr. Ware's thing—he said he had sold them in Petticoat—lane 5s.

ANN WARE . This is the piece of merino I lost—it has my own work on it—it is part of my child's frock.

Prisoner's Defence, (written.) The destitute situation to which I was reduced, in consequence of my father being out of employment, induced me to commit the offence. I trust my good conduct since my confinement and it being the first offence, will induce the gentlemen to take a favourable view of my unfortunate situation.

(Frederick Shiller, a cabinet—maker, Francis—street, Hoxton, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY .* Aged 14.— Transported for Life.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-740
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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740. PATRICK MALEED was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of December, 1 £10 bank note, the property of Mary Stable, in her dwelling-house.

MESSRS. PHILLIPS and CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

CHARLOTTE WILSON . I am the wife of John Henry Wilson. I live at Enfield Mrs. Stable is my aunt—on the 17th of December, I lent her £10 Bank—of—England note—before I lent it her, I took the number and date—the number was "14, 211," and the date, "31st October, 1835."

MARY STABLE . I live at Chase—side, Enfield, I am a widow—the prisoner has been eleven years in the service of me and my late

husband, as near as I can tell—on the 17th of December I borrowed a £10 Bank-note from Mrs. Wilson—I locked it up in my drawer—on the 21st of December I went to that drawer to look for the note—it was not then—it was gone—the prisoner left me on that day, by a month's notice—I apprised Mrs. Wilson of it.

Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN. Q. How long was the prisoners in your service? A. About eleven years—he was in the situation of a gardener—my husband had a very good opinion of him—I had heard that he had saved money during his service—a fortnight after the death of my husband, I gave him notice to leave—I told him I did not mean to keep a man-servant at all. I have not had one since—there was a dispute about the amount of wages due to him—I proposed to give him 5l., he refused to take that, and said he must resort to some other made of obtaining what was due to him—I had borrowed this £10 note—it was not my husband's at the time of his death—there was only one £5 note in the house when he died—this £10 note was locked in a drawer in a room where I always slept, to which in the exercise of his duty, the prisoner had no access—. I discovered the loss on the 21st, the day he left, before he left—I asked him no questions about it—I mentioned the fact to the took, both before and after the prisoner had left—he did not call at out house afterwards that I know of—I will not undertake to say he did not—I have a niece named Jane—she occasionally went into the bed-room—I never gave her a £10 note to change after the death of my husband—I never desired or authorized her to get change for any note—she has worked as a milliner in London—I remember her going to town shortly before the death of my husband, to receive some rent, or something of that kind, and returning without it, saying she had been robbed of the money—she slept in the room where this note was—I h ave not seen here here to-day—I have not had any account from her of any Bank-note, not asked her for any.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Is your niece Jane living with you? A. Yes—the prisoner had an opportunity of seeing her white he was living with me, and Mary the cook had an equal opportunity of knowing she lived with me.

THOMAS DUCK . I keep the Old Antigallican public-house, No. 110, Tooley-street. On the 21st of December the prisoner came to my house, with his brother and another young man—I did not know the prisoner at that time—he was introduced to me by his brother, whom I had known seven or eight years—I changed a £10 Bank-of-England note for him—It was after the gas had been lighted about an hour—I paid it the next day to my brewer.

Cross-examined. Q. Did the person who came with him introduce him to you as his brother? A. Yes: so that I was in a condition to give an account of the person I received it from.

RICHARD WATKINS . I am a Bow-street patrol. On Monday, the 15th of February, I apprehended the prisoner—I and my fellow-servant read the warrant, and told him he was charged with stealing a £10 note—he said he knew nothing about it—the warrant expressed that it was Mrs. Stables property—on the following morning I asked him if he had received a £10 note from Mrs. Stable or any of the family for wages, or any other purpose—he said, "No, I did not;" I went to the Bank of England and got a note here it is."

Cross-examined. Q. You apprehended him on the for 15th of February? A.

Yes he was in a respectable service three or four miles from Mrs. stable's in the service of Benjamin Williams, Esq.—I was twice before the Magistrates and examined—the second time Mr. Sawyer acted as clerk—I stated what I have to-day—the conversation I had with the prisoner led me to ask him the questions I did—he said he knew nothing about any £10 note, or the change of any—the first examination was on Tuesday, the last on Friday.

CHARLOTTE WILSON re-examined. This is the note I lent to my aunt.

THOMAS DUCK . This is the note I changed for the prisoner (read)—No. 14, 211, £10, dated October 31, 1835."

Prisoner's Defence. The note was given to me by Miss Jane Stable, my lately deceased master's niece, on the morning of the 21st of December—the came into the kitchen with the note in her hand, and said to me, "Thomas (the name I went by), go and get change for this note"—I looked at the note as I always did—I changed many notes for her and the family—she took herself away and went into the passage—I said to my fellow-servant, "Here is more bother"—I put my hand in my pocket, I had four sovereigns, and I said to my fellow-servant, "Mary, lend me six sovereigns," because I was in a burry to get my clean things on, to h ave my wages after twelve o'clock—there is a deep-rooted animosity against me, and Mrs. Wilson and her sister are against me because I have seen the treatment that they gave their uncle, and I said I wished there had been an inquest held on the body—I have a witness to produce that Miss Stable gave me the note, and I paid her the ten sovereigns—on that evening I came to London and had an interview with my brother—I had no money inconsequence of parting with these four sovereigns, but just what paid for my coach hire, and that I borrowed at Enfield—I dont's know whether the man is here or not; I wrote to him, but here not subpœnated him—I changed this note, and had a pot of porter without any reserve at all—the landlord took for the pot of porter and gave me change—my brother and I walked about, and I told him what I meant to do, and to my great surprise I was taken into custody—I said it was just what I expected for the writing on the wall was clapped on my shoulders, as there were things written respecting Mrs. Wilson and her sister, respecting their treatment of their uncle, and there were two or three handwritings—having no money by me but this£10 note, and knowing I owed my fellow servant 6l. out of it I asked my brother to come, and I paid my fellow-servant six sovereigns—Mrs. Lovell's sister saw her receive the money of me.

MARK MALLEED . I am the prisoner's brother. I was brought here today by those who conduct the prosecution—I was in company with him when he changed a note—I cannot say it was a 10l. note—I accompanied him to pay six sovereigns to his fellow-servant, Mary Goodspeed, at her sister's at the back of the Borough-market—I saw him pay her six sovereigns.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. How long have you been in London? A. Thirteen years.—I have been acquainted with my brother all that time—I have seen him write—I believe the name on this letter(looking as one), "Patrick Malleed", to be his handwriting—I believe this also (looking at another letter) to be his—I cannot exactly say it is—I believe it is, and this name, "Thomas Malleed," I also believe to be his—I know a person of the name of Dove.

MARY GOODSPEED . I live with Mr. Bullock, of Highgate, as cook. I

formerly lived with Mr. Stable—I was there on the 21st of December—I left the next day—I knew Miss Jane Stable—about eleven o'clock in the morning of Monday, the 21st of December, she came in with a note—it was a £10 note, I suppose, because the prisoner wanted six sovereigns, and he had four—Jane Stable said she wanted change—she did not say who sent her—she did not speak to me, but to the prisoner—I do not know what he said to her, but he came to me for money—I had one sovereign in my work-box, and I fetched him down five more—he had four in his hand—Jane did not stay—she went towards the parlour—the prisoner went towards the parlour when I delivered him the six sovereigns and met her—I did not see him pay her the money. but I heard it jink—the prisoner left that afternoon—he said he would pay me that afternoon, but he did not—came the next morning, by order, about ten o'clock—Mrs. Stabie saw him I am sure—he was in the parlour with her some time—Mr. Rosini, the lawyer, was there—he lives at Enfield—he did not pay me the six sovereigns till the next Saturday, the 26th—I was then at New Park-street, in the Borough—he came with his brother—I have not been at Enfield since—I had a character from Mrs. Stable.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. When did you go to Mr. Bullock? A. On the 25th of January—I first heard that the prisoner was in difficulty about this note last Tuesday week—I called in the Borough at my sister's and she had heard of it—that was the first information I had on the subject—I know nothing more about it—I went to my mother after I left Mr. Stable's—she lives about four miles from En field—the prisoner knew my mother, but I do not know that he knew where I was going—I did not appear before the Magistrate—I am not married—I have never gone through the ceremony of marriage with any one—I was familiar with the prisoner—we have quarelled at times—we have never been out together and staid all night—I was threatened to be discharged by Mrs. Stable—we have had words and were very frequently going to part—I never made a cake at twelve o'clock at night in 1829, I and the prisoner were the only servants in Mr. Stable's family—my name is Mary—I do not remember being up one night in March, 1829—I knew where the prisoner slept—in order to go to his bed-room it was necessary to pass the passage leading to Mrs. Stable's room—I do not remember a parcel being sent to London by the carrier, containing orange wine, and foreign wine, and a cake, that had been baked as late as twelve o'clock at night—I remember Mrs. Stable giving me some wine for mu mother—I do not remember about that time sending or knowing of any parcel being sent to London, containing wine and a cake—I think I know the prisoner's writing—I cannot read writing, except it is very plain—I know a man of the name of Dove—he is brother-in-law—he is not here—his wife is—I have never been married or gone through any such ceremony—I have never been engaged to be married or promised it—I do not remember Mrs. Stable speaking of the loss of a £10 note neither before nor after the prisoner left—she did not mention it in the prisoner of Mrs. Wilson she did not speak to me about it at any time—I have tried to recollect, because Mr. Taylor, the solicitor, asked me on Monday morning, if I recollected Mrs. Stable speaking to me about a £10 note—I believe Mr. Taylor is the prisoner's attorney—Mr. Bullock took me to him—never said to Mrs. Stable that I knew nothing about a £10 note, because I never heard her ask.

GEORGE DRANE . I am a fruiterer and live at Enfield. On the 21st of December the prisoner came to borrow 2s.—he was then going to London

by the stage—I have known him nearly nine years—he has borne an honest character.

CHARLOTTE WILSON re-examined. On the evening of the 22nd I heard Mrs. Stable ask Mary Good speed if she knew anything about the £10 note, and I asked her myself also—she said, "I know nothing about it." to each of us.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Are you sure this was on the 22nd? A. Yes, it was not on the 21st—not before the prisoner had left the service—I do not know whether Miss Jane Stable is here.

JANE STABLE examined by the Court. I am a niece of the late Mr. Stable. The prisoner quitted my aunt's service on the 21st of December—I did not ask him for change for a £10 Bank-note on that day—I handed no Bank-note to him—I received no sovereign from him.

(Matthias Stable, of Enfield; Thomas F. Taylor, a butcher at Enfield; Mr. Parbury, a blacksmith of Enfield; and Mr. Garbes, a licensed victoaller at Enfield, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY. Aged 44.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury.

Transported for Life.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-741
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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741. GEORGE HARWOOD was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of February, at St. James, Westminster, 2 watches, value 28l.; and one watch chain, value 1l.; the goods of John Charles Pybus, in the dwelling-house of Thomas Gilbert.

NATHANIEL BEARDMORE . I am in the service of Mr. Pybus—he is a watch-maker, and lives in Old Compton-street, Soho. He left me one afternoon, about two or three o'clock, in care of the work-shop—I cannot tell the day—the prisoner came into the workshop about three o'clock, and asked me to fetch a cigar for him—asked if I went over the road would it do—he told me no, to go to the bottom of the street—I waited till William Chambers came, I sent him for it, and the prisoner smoked it—I was about three minutes absent from the shop—William Chambers got the cigar, but I brought it in and gave it to the prisoner—he then said he was very cold, and he should like to have some egg-hot—he asked William Chambers whether he would get the eggs—he said no, but he gave me a 1d. and I got two eggs—he took them and said he was going over to the house to get some beer and sugar—he did mot come back—the following day I missed a gold watch from the workshop—I afterwards found two were missing, and a gold key and gold chain—they were safe when the prisoner came into the room.

THOMAS BIRKETT . I am in the service of Mr. Norman, a pawnbroker, in princess-street. On Friday, the 5th of February, about five o'clock, the prisoner at the bar pawned two gold watches with me for 2l. each, and a small chain and key which was attached to the Name of them—one is in the name of Henry Somerfield—the other, which he said belonged to his brother, in the name of John Somerfield.

JOHN CHARLES PYBUS . I am a watch-maker. On Friday, the 5th of February, I left the witness Beardmore in care of my workshop—my gold watchers were safe at the time—these two are mine—they are worth about 25l—the house is Mr. Thomas Gilbert's—I have part of it—it is in the parish of St. Anne, Westminster.

GEORGE MARTIN (Police-constable C 122.) I apprehended the prisoner on the 10th of February, and found five duplicates on him, but none relating to this case.

Prisoner. I took the property in the same way that the prosecutor has lent me watches before to pledge.

JOHN CHARLES PYBUS re-examined. Q. Do you know the prisoner? A. Yes, from a young lad—I gave him no permission to take watches out of my shop without my knowledge.

(William Maybee, a pewterer, of Rood-lane; and William Westlake, a grocer, of the Old Bailey, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY Aged 18.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor . Transported for Life.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-742
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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742. JOHN WILLIAMS was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of February, 1 ham, value 16s., the goods of George William Barrow.

JOHN PARLBY . I am in the service of Mr. Hudson, a chemist, in Oxford-street. At half-past nine o'clock in the evening, on the 17th of February. I saw the prisoner take a ham from Mr. Barrow's shop, from within the door—he went off with it—he tried to conceal it under his cost—I went to the door and asked the person if he had sold a ham—the young man came out, and we followed the prisoner—I saw the young man catch him—he had the ham in his possession—I did not lose sight of him.

CHARLES JAMES . I am in the service of Mr. George William Barrow. He is an oilman, and lives at No. 88. Oxford-street—the last witness gave me information, and we followed the prisoner till he got to Cavendish-square—he then dropped the ham, and said, "Take your ham"—it is my master's and was within the door.

HENRY M'CAULEY (police-constable D 88.) The prisoner was delivered into my charge—this is the ham.

Prisoner's Defence. I was going along at a quarter before ten o'clock, this ham was lying on he pavement—I picked it up.

GUILTY Aged 42.— Confined Three Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-743
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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743. ELIZABETH SCOTT was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of February, 1 pewter pot, value 8d., the goods of Richard John Temple.

RICHARD JOHN TEMPLE . I live in Old-street, and am a licensed victualler. I saw the prisoner in our house about half-past three o'clock in the afternoon—I served her with half a pint of beer—it was in February—I cannot tell on what day—that night the policeman came with half a pint pot, and asked if we had lost it—we had not missed it, but it was ours.

HENRY BEAN (police-constable G 111.) On Tuesday, the 16th of February, I was at the station when the prisoner was brought in—I was standing fronting, looking at the prisoner—I saw something in her bosom—it was this half-pint pot.

(Properly produced and sworn to.)

Prisoner. I never stole it.

GUILTY Aged 43.— Confined Two Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-744
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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744. WALTER SCOTT was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of February, 2 set of harness, value 6l.; 5 horse collars, value 27s.; 1 bridle, value 6s.; 1 nose-bag, value 3s.; 1 girth, value 2s.; and 1 pad, value 1s.; the goods of John Battershell.

JOHN BATTERSHELL . I am a green-grocer, and live at No. 69, Fetter-lane. I have a stable in Ely-place—it was robbed on he 13th of February—it

was safe at a quarter before seven o'clock that evening, the lad left it between that and half-past six o'clock.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Is it that lad here? A. Yes GEORGE DRAKE. I am in the service of Mr. Battershell. I left the stable safe between six and seven o'clock that evening—I had been to the stable with a truss of straw, and as I went back I saw the prisoner and two others in the narrow part of Ely-place, little more than eleven door from the stable—the prisoner had nothing about him that I know of—I went to my master's, in Fetter-lane, and about five minutes past seven o'clock I was told something had happened—I went to the stable again on receiving the information, and found the stable open, the lock had been forced back, and the harness was gone.

Cross-examined. Q. Was it after the harness was gone you saw Scott? A. No., before—he had nothing—it was half an hour after I had left the stable, that I found it open—there are persons living in he court—it is called Ely-place-mews.

JAMES EGERTON . On the evening of Saturday, the 13th of February, I was near Ely-place between six and seven o'clock—I saw the prisoner, and two more with him—he had some collars with him, but nothing else that I saw—the other men had the harness, the pad, the bridles, and reins—in consequence of what somebody said, I looked at them particularly, but I said nothing to them—I came back, and let my master know, they went towards Shoe-lane, all three together—my master's name is Smith.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you known the man that you saw that night? A. Not before—I do not know whether I should know the other two men—the prisoner had the collars on his arm—this was after dark—I was about ten yards from them—I was about three or four minutes there—I can swear to the prisoner—I should know the others by their dress—the prisoner was dressed as he is now, with a black silk-hat on—I do not know what kind of handkerchief he had on—he had a dark blue cost, not a black one.

COURT. Q. You were sent by your master to look at them? A. Yes; I did not see his face, only his back.

JOHN SMITH . I live in Ely-mews. On this evening I saw three men came out of Battershell's stables, I called out "Battershell," no one answered—I looked at the men's backs, but did not know any of them—I sent my man to see if they belonged to Battershell—I was within a yard of them, but it was a dark place, they all had harness, the hind man had collars—I sent the last Witness.

Cross-examined. Q. It was so dark you could not well see them? A. Yes; it was dark.

WILLIAM BARTON (police sergeant G 1.) I apprehended the prisoner on the 14th of February, about seven o'clock in he morning—he was sober enough to know what he was about—I told him what I took him for—I made him no promise or threat—he said he had as much right to carry harness in Ely-place for sale, as in any other place.

JOHN BATTERSHELL re-examined. Q. What was it you lost? A. Two complete sets of harness, five other collars, and a nose-beg—none of it has been found. NOT GUILTY .

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-745
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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745. MARTHA LOVATT was indicted for stealing, on the 11th of February, 1 spoon, value 5s., the goods of Edward Joseph.

MARY ELDON . I am a charwoman, acting as servant to Edward Joseph. While I was there, the prisoner came to see me on the 11th of February—she washed up the breakfast things for me—she was there again the next day—on Saturday I missed a silver tea-spoon—I found it at the pawnbrokers, in Tottenham-court-road.

Prisoner. While I was there, she had a person who left the place with a bad character, and she was in the habit of pledging Mr. Joseph's property herself—she has known me thirteen years, and never knew me dishonest. Witness. I have known her eleven years—I never knew her to do any wrong.

HENRY ARCHBOLD . I am in the employ of Mr. Burchall, a pawnbroker, in Tottenham-court-road. I have a silver-spoon pawned by the prisoner, in the name of Ann Brown on the 12th of February—I am certain she is the woman.

Prisoner. I am not the person—I am innocent as a child unborn—I know nothing of the spoon.

MARY ELDON re-examined. Q. Had any other person been there that day but the prisoner? A. No; not within a week of the time. except the lodgers—this is Mr. Joseph's spoon.

GUILTY. Aged 30. Recommended to mercy by the Jury .— Confined Two Months.

Before Mr. Common Sergeant.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-746
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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746. JULIA CAIN and SARAH DARNLEY were indicted for stealing, on 6th of February, 1 shawl, value 5s., the goods of William Crush and another.

WILLIAM HENRY LUMSBEY . I am an apprentice to Mr. Brown and William Crush, Pawnbrokers, they live in Museum-street, Bloomsbury. On the 16th of February, I lost a shawl from the shop—this is it—the two prisoners came there about four o'clock in the afternoon, under pretence of asking the price of a gown—they looked at one, and asked the price of it, both of them—one of them asked the price of a shawl—then the other asked the price of another gown, and then remarked how dear I was—there were several shawls hanging up—they left the shop, and did not buy any thing—there were no other persons in the shop, not any other shopman—I hung this shawl up myself—I missed it directly they were gone—they ran away from the door, that gave me suspicion—I pursued them, and overtook them in Tottenham-court-road coming out of a pawnbroker's of the name of Franklin—I do not know which of them had the shawl—I said I wanted them, and took them into the passage of the pawnbroker's, and asked the young man to mind them while I got a policeman—this is the shawl I found on one of them—one said that the other gave it to her to pledge, and the other said she met a woman, who asked her to go and pledge it.

Cain. He had not shown the shawl to either of us—I went in to buy a dark gown—I never noticed the shawl, till this young woman gave it me in the pawnbroker's to pledge—he never showed me any shawl—we did not run from the door—and if we had, he could have followed us, without going to inquire for us.

Sarah Darnley. There were three people waiting for us, and we priced two articles, and I said they were very door, and I came along, and gave her the shawl to pledge—he did not follow us.

Cain. I am a servant out of a situation—I left it to go to Ireland, but circumstances would not allow me to go—she asked me to go into the pawnbroker's—I went to buy a dark gown, and this person stood back—I priced a gown, and asked how much it was—he said it was 6s.—I looked at it but did not buy—this woman gave it to me in the other pawnbroker's.

Darnley. The woman that gave me the shawl into the Blue Posts—I asked the young man to go there.

WILLIAM HENRY LUMLEY re-examined. She said there was a person near the place, but I did not see him.

RICHARD ROPE . I am shopman to Mr. Franklin, a pawnbroker, in Tottanhan-court-road. Between four and five o'clock that day, the prisoners came to the house, and Cain offered this shawl to pledge.

EDWARD GREENING (police-constable E 99.) I took the prisoner into custody.

Darnley. Q. Did I not request you to go to the Blue Posts, to see for the woman that gave it me? A. Not till you got to the station—you first mentioned that a woman was waiting for you a little way off, but did not say where. Witness. I saw no woman.

Cain. I said, as I was innocent I would go to the station—I know nothing about the shawl, but taking it from this young woman—I went to the station, and the night-constable said he thought I was innocent.

(John M'Carthy, a tailor, No. 55, Wych-street, and Ellen Woolley, a servant, gave Julis Cain a good character.)

CAIN— GUILTY . Aged 21.


Confined Three Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-747
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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747. JOHN COLSON was indicted for stealing, on the 28th of January, at St. Martin-in-the-Fields, 1 seal, value 2l.; 1 ring, value 1s.; 1 watch-key, value 1s.; 1 cash-box, value 10s.; 12 sovereigns, 16 half-sovereigns, and 3 £20, 1 £10, and 3 £5 Bank-notes; 4 £10, 1 £30, 1 £70 2s. 8d., 1 £51 5s. 4d., 1 £50, and 1 £40, bills of Exchange, and 1 order for the payment of 10l.; the goods, monies, and property of Henry Gibbs, in his dwelling-house.

HENRY GIBBS . I live at No. 23, Great Newport-street, in the parish of St. Martin-in-the-fields. On the 28th of January I went to the Grapes Tavern, St. Martin's-lane—I met the prisoner there about half-past ten o'clock in the morning—I entered into conversation with him respecting some horses, and one thing or another, and then went to my shop—I had a cash-box in my iron safe—there were a great many bills of Exchange in it, and twelve sovereigns, sixteen half-sovereigns, and three £20 Bank-notes—there was more than 600l. in all—the prisoner went with me to my shop—we got home about half-past eleven o'clock—we drank together a little—I took him home with a person who had lived with me, and we lunched together—after that, a person called for the payment of 4l. 17s. 8d. for some wine—I got my cash-box out of my iron safe, and got the money out, and paid the amount—I saw the other money there at that time, and left the cash-box on the table, locked—there was no one in the parlour but the prisoner and Corfield, who had lived with me—he is not here—the prisoner saw me take the money out of the box—I was then called into the shop, and left the box on the table, but supposed it to be locked up—I was not in the shop more than half an hour—when

I returned, the prisoner and the other man were both there—I did not notice the box—I had got both keys in my hand. I fell asleep—it might be from what little I had drank, not having breakfasted—I should think I slept for an hour—this was between twelve and one o'clock—I awoke from half-past two to three o'clock—no one was there then—the prisoner and Corfield were gone—Corfield had gone before that—as I remember his asking me if he could do any business for me in the City—I remember his going, and he left the prisoner there—that was before I went to sleep the first time—I fell asleep again, and nothing occurred to make me think of the property, till Mr. Humphreys called to borrow 30l—I then went for my cash-box, and it was gone, and all the property—there was a gold seal, a ring, and a key in it—I know the numbers of the three £20 notes, and this is my box, and this purse belongs to me—here are two of the £20 notes—they have got my writing on the back of them—and there was another £20 note which I have seen, but it is not here.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Had you ever seen this man in your life before? A. Not to my knowledge—I met him the first thing in the morning at the Grapes, and we drank together—we tossed up for gin—I paid for the beer and the gin—we did not toss for ale—I had but one glass on gin—it was half a pint between four other persons—we had a pint of half-and-half—I asked the prisoner to lunch, and he walked with me home—there was a pint of ale there, and I think there was some gin when I paid Fearon's man—I am certain of it—it came from the Grapes—I suppose I sent for it—I would not swear it was there—I do not know Mr. Best—I know of no one calling except Fearon's clerk—I did not desire the prisoner to deny me because I had too much to drink, and did not wish my customers to see me in the state I was in—there was no one with the prisoner except during lunch—I left Corfield with him when I went into the shop—I have not seen Corfield since the first hearing—he is an acquaintance of mine—he is gone to live with his father in Keppel-street, Russell-square—I thought the box was in the safe locked up—I forgot it certainly—I was sober—we may all be forgetful sometimes about little papers and that—it was after I came back from the shop the first time that I fell asleep—the prisoner was there then—he was lunching for about half-an-hour—I fell asleep when I went back—the prisoner was there then—I think I slept for an hour—when I awoke neither of them were there—Corefield had gone prior to my falling asleep—when I awoke I missed the prisoner—I was awake about half-an-hour—I fell asleep again about half-past two or three o'clock—no one minded my shop.

COURT. Q. You fell asleep twice? A. Yes—I had not drank more than usual—it is a customary thing with me to take a little—I should not generally have fallen asleep after what I had taken—I don't know whether it was caused by any thing else—there were four persons I think with the prisoner when I first saw him—I live at Hampstead, opposite the Load of Hay—Mr. Corfield is my next-door neighbour—he is the brother of the man who was there that day—I came to town by the Hampstead stage.

LUKE WILLIAM HAMILTON . On Thursday, the 28th of January, I went to Mr. Gibbs' shop, and saw the prisoner there—he asked me what I wanted. I told him to see Mr. Gibbs—he said he was in the parlour asleep—that was at twenty minutes past two o'clock—he told me that Mr. Gibbs desired him to fasten the shop-door, and he bolted it, and said, "Now, you may go to school."

Cross-examined. Q. Do you live with Mr. Gibbs? A. No; I call every day when I go to school, to see if I can do any thing.

JOSHUA FREEMAN . I am clerk of the Bank of England. I produce two £20 bank-notes, Nos. 15147, and 4550—they have been presented for payment.

CHARLES MARKS . I am clerk a to Sir Charles Price and Co., bankers. These two £20 notes were paid to us on the 30th of January, to the credit of Mr. Webb, of Oxford-street.

Cross-examined. Q. Who paid them into your house? A. Mr. Webb, a cheesemonger, of Oxford-street.

CHARLES JOHN WEBB . I paid these two notes at Sir Charles Price's on the 30th—I took them of Mr. Layfield, of Oxford-street—I gave gold for them, and marked them.

JOHN LAYFIELD . I live at No. 5, Oxford-street, and am a grocer. On the 30th of January, I sent these two notes by my daughter to get change—I had written on them before—I took them of Mr. Ridley.

GEORGE RLDLEY . I keep the George the Fourth, in Edward-street, Regents's park. I know Mr. Layfield—I changed two £20 notes with him, but I made no mark on them—I took them at my house—one from my maid-servant, Adelaide Smith, on Thursday-night, the 28th—I cannot recollect whether I took the other of Corporal Allen or the prisoner—he name to our house on that night to lodge—I had seen him there once before.

ADELAIDE SMITH . I am servant to Mr. Ridley. On the 28th of January, the prisoner came to ledge there—he rung the bell—I answared it, and asked him what he wished for—he ordered two bottles of wins—there were several persons in company with him—I brought the wine—he gave me a £20 note to change—I gave it to my master, and gave the change to the prisoner.

Cross-examined. Q. Should you know the note again. A. No.

GEORGE ALLEN . I am a corporal in the 1st regiment if Life-guards. The prisoner is a first cousin of mine—on Thursday, the 28th of January, about four o'clock, he asked me to go and take a little refreshment with him at the George the Fourth—I saw him with a good bit of money—as I thought about 60l. or 70l—I thought him not capable of taking care of it, and I asked him to give me some, and he gave a £10 note, and a £20 note, and 36 sovereigns—I don't know whether that note was given to the landlord—I received a £20 and a £10 note, and then went to a public-house in Hemming's-row to get the prisoner's boxes, and he asked what was to pay, they said 5l.—I offered the £20 note—they refused it—I gave them five sovereigns—we went both to the George the Fourth, and there I gave the note again to the prisoner—I was not of the party drinking the wine—he was intoxicated.

Cross-examined. Q. What did you do with the money? A. I returned it to the prisoner—I should not know the notes—the prisoner has been in the army.

GEORGE SOUTHEY . I live at Mr. Ridley's—it is a public-house, We open at six o'clock in the morning, and shut about eleven o'clock at night—I remember the prisoner coming there on the 28th of January—on the next morning I went to the water-closet, and again in the morning of the 31st of January, for the purpose of searching—I pulled up a marriage certificate—I have it to my master and mistress, who were together.

FRANCES RIDLEY . I received the marriage certificate from the boy—I kept it in my hand, and delivered it to the officer Soper on Sunday evening.

THOMAS SOPER (police-constable F 52) I received this from the last Witness.

HENRY GIBBS . This certificate is mine.

THOMAS SOPER . On the 30th of January I went to the house kept by Ridley, and found the prisoner there—I asked him if his name was Colson—he said it was—I said I wanted to speak to him privately, and took him out in the front, and asked him if he knew a person of the name of Gibbs, in Newsport-street—he said he did—I asked him when he saw him last—he said on Thursday last he lunched with him—I then told him I wished him to go with me to Mr. Gibbs, for he had lost a cash-box—I took him to the station-house, and then I went to his boxes, which Mr. Ridley said he had brought, and I found a key, seal, and ring, and this bag, with thirty-five sovereigns and two half-sovereigns in it.

Cross-examined. Q. The prisoner was not present when you searched the boxes? A. No—they were locked—I forced them open,

FRANCES RIDLEY . I was present when the last witness searched the boxes, which the prisoner brought in.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you see him when he came to your house? A. Not when he came in first—he brought them in the evening—I am sure they were his boxes—no one else had slept in that room.

HENRY GIBBS . This seal, key, and ring are mine.

Cross-examined. Q. How do you know that seal? A. It has been eighteen years in this box—there is no engraving or mark—it had belonged to a Geneva watch, but it was in the box at the time of the robbery, and this key is mine.

(WILLIAM WALTON, a farmer, at Chigwell-hall, Essex, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 30.— Transported for Life.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-748
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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748. GEORGE ROWLEDGE was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of February, 1 carcase of a sheep, value 30s., the property of Joseph Roadnight.

DANIEL HIGGINS . I know the shop of Mr. Joseph Roadnight, who lives at Uxbridge, and is a butcher. On the 14th of February, between seven and eight o'clock in the evening—I saw a sheep there—it had been killed and was hanging up, and I saw the prisoner and two others near shop—I knew the prisoner as long as I can recollect—I went to school with him—he lives at Uxbridge—I do not know that he worked at any thing—he went into the shop—I did not see him do any thing—nor take any thing—nor did I see him come out—the shop door was shut—I do not know whether it was latched—I saw it open, and he went in.

JAMES FIDLER . Between seven and eight o'clock on Sunday I was walking in Vine-street, about one hundred yards from the butcher's shop, with Frederick Taylor and another person, and saw the prisoner with the carcase of a sheep on his shoulder—I thought he had stolen it, and ran after him and overtook him—he threw the sheep down at my feet—I then knocked at Mrs. Copeland's door, and carried it into her house.

JOSEPH ROADNIGHT . I am master of this shop. On this evening I was sitting in the parlour, and Mrs. Roadnight heard some person go out of the shop—she called to the servant to know who had gone out—I missed the carcase if a sheep, and found it again at Mrs. Copeland's house—it weighed about seventy pounds—I am certain it was mine.

HARRIET COPELAND . I was at home—my husband was his supper—Fidler

came and said there was a sheep thrown at the door—my husband and he went and got it in, and my husband went after Mr. Roadnight, and he came and said the sheep was his.

Prisoner. I know nothing about it—I am innocent of the charge.

GUILTY .† Aged 21.— Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-749
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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749. ROBERT ROBINSON was indicted for stealing, in the 23rd of February, 24lbs. weight of lead, value 4s. 6d., the goods of James Bowden and another.

JAMES BOWDEN . I am a builder. My yard is in Market-street, St. John-street-road—I had some lead there on the 23rd of February—my attention was drawn to it, and soon after the prisoner was taken—the lead is in an open yard—there are gates—I have seen the prisoner before, he has come to ask for work as a labourer—Ii believe this lead to be mine, but I cannot swear to it by any mark—I have a partner.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. You know he has been in the habit of coming to ask for employment? A. Yes; I was at home on the day in question, but I did not see him at first—I saw him when he was taken with the lead, and was returning with it—I am in partnership with my brother—we have four or five sheets of lead—there is no mark on this—I did not fit it to the piece it was cut from.

JOHN CHIFFENCE . I am a carpenter. I saw the prisoner go out of the yard, and followed him—I saw he had something wrapped up with a handkerchief—I asked him what he had there—he said, some lead—I asked him to let me look at it, which he die—I asked him where he got if from—he said, "From Mr. Payne's, at Islington"—I asked if he would come back to my master's—we met my master, and he said the best way would be for me go with the prisoner to Mr. Payne's, which I did—and it was false—prisoner then stated that he had it given him by some person in the street, but he did not know who.

Cross-examined. Q. You saw him come out of the yard? A. Yes—I did not see him go in, he might have had it when he went in.

Prisoner. I met a person in the street who said he had a job to do in Fetter-land—I was to meet him at four o'clock. NOT GUILTY .

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-750
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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750. WILLIAM JOHNSON and WILLIAM TURNER were indicted for stealing, on the 17th of February, 72 yards of printed cotton, value 2l. 7s., the goods of George Mead.

PHINEAS BUTLER (police-constable K 222.) On the 17th February, about five o'clock in the morning, I was between Bow-bridge and Bow-church—I saw the two prisoners a short distance apart—perhaps twenty yards, walking the same way—I stopped Johnson with these two pieces of cotton tied up in a blue handkerchief—I asked him what he had got there—he said he had got some prints, and he had brought them from Messrs. Lane's, at Harlow—as the patterns did not suit, he was going to take them to Bethnal-green, to have them exchanged—I thought it was an unlikely story, and took him to the station-house—I called my brother-officer, who went after Turner, and he brought him with another bundle—he said he got them near the Horse-shoes, at Potters-street, which is about three miles below Epping—that he took them out of a bale he found in the road, and thought they had dropped from Mr. Mend, the Harlow waggoner—I went to the King's Arms, in Leadenhall-street, and saw Mr. Mend, and found he had lost a small bale of goods of this description.

WILLIAM HOTHER (police-constable K 23.) I was on duty, and apprehended Turner, in Bow-town—I took this parcel out of his possession I asked him what he had got in his handhe said clothes—I said what clothes—he said it was a gown-piece—I asked where he got it, and where he was going to take it—he could give me no satisfactory account—I took him to the station-house—he there confessed he picked it up on the road, supposing it had dropped from Mr. Mead's waggon.

GEORGE MEAD . I am a carrier from Hatfield and Harlow, through Epping to London. I remember the 17th of February, but I was not with the waggon that day—my son Thomas was—I was not in London—these goods were in the waggon—they went from the King's Arms, Leadenhall-street, to go to Harlow—they belonged to Mr. Gurling, of Harlow.

OLIVER WHITTLE . I am a book-keeper at the King's Arms. On the 17th of February there were four trusses, directed to Mr. Gurling, of Harlow—they were put into the waggon—these trusses were brought by Thomas Walker—Thomas Mead drove the waggon.

JURY. Q. You do not know what they contained? A. No.

THOMAS MEAD . I drove my father's waggon that Tuesday from London—I received the trusses—I saw them put on board the waggon—two of them were for Mr. Gurling, and there was another truss for James Perry, of Harlew—I put them into the waggon between two and three o'clock—I went on to Harlow—I know both the prisoners—I saw them at the King's Arms—when the goods were put into the waggon Turner was there—Johnson had been there, and might have been there then, and I not see him—when I got to Harlow, I missed one of the trusses directed to H. Gurling, of Harlow—it had been put in the middle of the waggon—it was a tilted waggon—I arrived at Harlow about eight o'clock on Wednesday morning—Joseph Stoten was with me—the bale could not have fallen out—Johnson had driven the waggon for me before—it it about six weeks since he left—he knew the road.

THOMAS WALKER . I am a porter, and live with Mr. Thorpe, in King-street. I packed up two trusses on the 15th of February, and left them with the back-keeper, at the King's Arms—I knew their contents—they had Mr. Thorpe's name printed on them—I packed a piece of this description for Mr. Gurling, but I cannot say that this is the piece—this is the invoice that was sent with the goods—it is Mr. Thorpe's writing—this piece here has twenty-four yards in it—it was taken from Turner, and two more, of twenty-four yards each, were taken from Johnson.

JURY. Q. Is that the contents of one bale? A. No, there is one piece wanting.

Johnson's Defence. I am a farmer's labourer, and have worked at Little Cranfield Hall, at Essex, twelve years, and had an excellent character the whole time—I had been on a visit to my friends in London, and was returning with William Turner—we found a bundle on the road near Potter-street—we took the pieces out of it, three in number, and proposed to return to London, to see if we could find the owners—on arriving at Bow, we were taken to the station-house—I am innocent of taking them with a felonious intent; I therefore hope, by your just judgement, I shall he acquitted there are twelve in family—net one was ever accused of dishonesty.

Turner's Defence. I was going along with Johnson, and found the parcel containing three pieces—we took them out and returned to London, and on arriving at Bow, a policeman took us.

(W.H. Holme, a grocer, at Tottenham, gave Turner a good character.)



Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-731a
VerdictsGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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731. WILLIAM STEEL was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of February, 84 pairs of shoes, value 10l., the goods of Samuel Emsley, his master, in his dwelling-house; and JAMES HENRY SIMS for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing them to be stolen; against the Statute, &c.—3rd COUNT for receiving of an evil-disposed person.

MR. PHILLIPS conducted the prosecution.

JAMES MULLINS (police-constable K 66.) On the 6th of February I was on duty, about seven o'clock in the evening, in Northampton-street, Cambridge-road, and saw the prisoner Sims in company with another, who it not here—Sims had this hamper containing these shoes—I followed them into Cambridge-road—the one not present fell back—he walked back—I followed Sims into the Whitechapel-road—I came up to him and asked him what he had got—he said, "Boo-shoes," as if he was going to say some other word—I asked where he was going—he said, "to Mr. Solomon's, in the Old Change"—he said, "I have got not bill"—I asked him if there was many address on the hamper—he said, "No"—I asked him where he came from—he said, "From the Octagon factory"—I asked him who gave it him—he said, "The master of the factory"—I then laid hold of him and the hamper, and was assisted by another policeman down to the factory, and saw Mr. Emsley—Sims was present—he was quite close—I asked Mr. Emsley if he had sent him out of an errand—he said, "No"—I brought him round to the centre of the room, to where Mr. Emsley was, and Steel was called by Mr. Emsley to open the hamper, and Mr. Emsley said to Steel, "Is not this my property!"—Steel said they were.

Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN. Q. Do you know whether Mallet, the man who fell back, had been in Mr. Emsley's employment? A. Not then, I believe—I had not known him before that I know of—I did not know Mr. Emsley—I found him by what Sims told me—Sims and Mallet remained together two or three minutes—Mallet then went away—I then laid bold of Sims, and compelled him to go to Mr. Emsley's—he said he came from the Octagon factory, and had them from the master—I Cannot tell whether Mallet told him to say that.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. What did he say about it? A. He said he had them from the master of the factory—the hamper contained seven dozen pairs of shoes.

SAMUEL EMSLEY . I have no partner; I live in Norfolk-street, Bethnal-green, and am the proprietor of the Octagon shoe-factory—that is my dwelling-house—it is in the parish of St. Metthew, Bethnal-green—Steel had the entire management of the shoe department, and had to take care of the places containing the shoes—I employed Sims for about nine months—Steel introduced him—I remember the policeman bringing him to my house on the evening of the 6th of February, with this hamper and shoes—Steel was called up to open the hamper—I asked him where Sims lived—he said he did not know—I said I was quite certain, that at three different periods, he had told me he knew well where he lived, that he could not give a direction, but he could show any person—he said, "Oh, I recollect, I can show the place"—I had complained to him ten times at least before this, that the racks were getting very light, considering we were making a large numbers of shoes, and sending out but few—he said he did not think so—he

did not give a definite answer—we manufacturer 100 dozen pairs a week, especially in the winter; and employ about 100 men, and about 1000 women in the stay-manufactory—on the Saturday after this, Steel was absent—I went to his house, he was not at home—I have examined these shoes, they are mine—I have missed a great many hundred dozen.

SARAH SADLER I am a widow, and live at No.13, John-place, chicksand-street, Whitechapel. On the 7th of February I went to Mr. Sims house, and was there-quarters of an hour—I saw Mrs. Sims, and a person Mrs. Sims called Wilkinson, or Williams at first, that was the prisoner Steel—he made no reply—he was in his shirt sleeves—she afterwards called him Steel—he said nothing—he got up—there were three pairs of slippers on the table—he took them up, and put them into the fire, after Mrs. Sims called him Steel—he said what could he do about burning the shoes—he went out directly on being called Steele—I never saw his before—he was there when I went in—he could hear what Mrs. Sims said—they were sitting on each side of the fire place.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON Q. I see that Steel's name is William? A. I do not know what his name is, he was not called William but Wilkinson or Williams.

WILLIAM BURNE I am a waiter at the Earl Grey public-house, Mils end-road. I have seen the prisoners Sims and Steel there—I first saw them about five months since—I know a man of the name of Mallet—he was acquainted with the two prisoners—on Friday, the 5th of February. Sims and Mallet came first, between eight and nine o'clock, and Steel joined them about half-past nine o'clock—they remained till a quarter past ten o'clock together—Sims lives at No. 3, Sidney-street—on the Sunday(after that Friday)the 7th of February, about ten minutes after one o'clock, I saw the prisoner Steel come out of Sims' house—he appeared in a great flurry, buttoning up his coat, and running down the street, as fast as possible.

SIMS— GUILTY . Aged 20— Transported for Fourteen Years.


29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-752
VerdictsGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown
SentencesTransportation; No Punishment > sentence respited

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752. WILLIAM STEELE was again indicted for stealing, on the 6th of February, 24 pairs of boots, value 6l., and 20 pairs of shoes, value 3l. 12s., the goods of Samuel Emsley, his master, in his dwelling-house and JAMES HENRY SIMS , JEMIMA SIMS , and JULIANA SIMS , for feloniously receiving the name, knowing them to have been stolen, &c. against the statue. 2nd COUNT—For receiving them of an evil disposed person, against the statue, &c.

MR. PHILLIPS conducted the prosecution.

SAMUEL EMSLEY I am a boot and shoemaker, Steel was in my employ—the keys of the shoe department were in his care—I had frequently noticed to him the thinning of the racks—it is my dwelling-house, in the parish of Saint Matthew, Bethnal-green—I called at Steel's house on the Sunday—he was not at home—I have lost nearly 3000l. worth of property.

SARAH SADLER I am a widow. I remember going into the house of Mrs. Sims on sun day, the 7th of February—I found there Mrs. Sims and Mr. Steel—the daughter went in with me—I do not know whether she knew what was going on—I found Jemima Sims and Mr. Steel sitting down—I told Mrs. Sims I had come from Mrs. Mallet to tell them not to town the shoes and boots, and Mrs. Sims said, "Oh! my son"—I had

never seen her before—she asked me who I came from, I said, "Mrs. Mallet, as a friend to Mrs. Sims"—Steel said he did not know whether I might be a friend or a fob—Mr. Steel said, what could he do—there was a great fire, with boots and shoes on it—there was a little door open, and I saw a hamper, and part of another, with boots and shoes in them—Juliana Sims gave me three pairs of boots—Steel did not see that—he was gone out—he went when Mr. Sims addressed him by the name of Steele—Mrs. Sims desired Juliana Sims to give me the boots to pledge, which I did, at Mr. Sowerby's and another pair at the corner of Booth-street, and at mother place—these three pairs of boots were part of what were going to be burnt—they were in the basket in the room—Sims seemed quite under the direction of her mother.

JAMES DOUGLASS I am a police-constable. The last witness pointed out three pawnbroker's shops where she had pawned boots—I went to the shops, and they produced these boots—I went to Sims's house on the 7th, about twelve o'clock—I found two large fires burning on the ground floor, and a great quantity of ashes—I picked out some pieces of hamper and pieces of new leather, and some brown paper—it appeared as if a large quantity had been burning.

JAMES MARLOW I am shopman to Mr. Sowerby, the pawnbroker, No.49, Brick-lane, I have a pair of woman's boots, pawned by just such a woman at the last witness—the policeman afterwards came to our house.

WILLIAM SAVAGE I am a pawnbroker. I live with my brother at No.73, White Chapel-road—I produce a pair of boots pawned by a woman—I cannot tell who—I showed them to the policeman.

HENRY COX I am shopman to a pawnbroker. I have a pair of boots pledged at our shop by a woman—I showed them to the policeman when he called at my master's.

JAMES DOUGLASS re-examined. Q. Were these shops pointed out to you by the witness Sadler? A. Yes.

JAMES WATERSON I am in the employ of Mr. Emsley—these are his boots—I gave them out to be made, and took them in from the men—I should think they have been made shout twelve months. (Lewis Thomas, a shoe-manufacturer, of No. 129, Cheapside; W. Moody, Carlisle-street, Bethnal-green; Thomas Hall, a baker, No.32, Winchester-street, Waterloo-town; and Charles Hobb, a shoe-manufacturer of St. Martin's-lane; gave the prisoner Steel a good character.)

JURY to SARAH SADLER Q. Was Steel present at the time Sims gave you the boots to pledge? A. No, he was gone, but he was there when the burning was going on.

WILLIAM STEEL— GUILTY of stealing only, not in the dwelling-house. Aged 20— Transported for Fourteen years.

JEMIMA SIMS— GUILTY. Aged 47— judgment Respited.



OLD COURT, Saturday, March 5th, 1836.

Third Jury before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-753
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-754
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29th February 1836
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755. PETER MILLER was indicated for embezzlement.

CHARLES ANDRE . I am a master baker, and live in Kingsland-road. The prisoner was about six month in my service as journeyman—it was his duty to receive money on my account and account to me for it—if he received money in the morning he ought to pay it tome in the evening, when I put the bread down—sometimes he was out and we did not settle that night—Sarah Reynolds is customer of mine.

SARAH REYNOLDS . I live at stoke Newington, and deal with the prosecutor for bread—I paid the prisoner 2l. 5s. on the 11th of January—he receipted the bill—here it is—on the 18th of January I paid him 2l. 5s. 5d.—he signed his name Peter Miller—the prosecutor applied to me for this money on the 10th of February.

CHARLES ANDRE re-examined. The prisoner never paid me those two bills—I discovered this after he left me—he left in the middle of January I paid him his wages and discharged him three or four weeks before I went to Worship-street.

Prisoner. I paid him every evening as I came home Witness. He did not pay me these two bills. I always put the money down in my book when I settle the bread—I asked him about these bills before he went away—he had never paid me—he had 14s. a week—I paid him every week.

Prisoner. He was almost every night drunk and tipsy and I was obliged to keep the money three or four days—I gave him this money—I paid him 4l. 7d., he says it was 4l. 10s., but the two bills only amount to 4l. 7s. Witness. I have never received any part of these two bills—he says I was drunk every night but it is false—he was driving about in a cab with my money—my book is here—these sums are not entered in it—I found this out at the beginning of February.

GUILTY . Aged 35.— Confined Six Months.

Before Mr. Justice Park.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-756
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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756. GEORGE COTTLE was indiceted for stealing, on the 15th of February, at St. Mary-le-bone, tea-pot, value 5l.; tea-pot stand, value 2l. 10s.; 1 pepper-box, value 1l. 5s.; 1 cruet-stand, value 6l.; 1 mustard-pot, value 2l. 10s.; 1 toast-rack, value 2l. 10s.; 1 cream-jug, value 30s.; 4 salt-cellars, value 3l.; 36 spoons, value 12l.; 3 ladles, value 3l.; 24 forks, value 11l.,; 9 knives, value 2l., and 2 pairs of nut crackers, value 5s. the goods of Anne Hodson his mistress, in her dwelling-house.

MISS ANN ELIZA HODSON I am the daughter of Anne Hodson—she is a widow, and lives at No. 18. Wimpole-street—the prisoner was our footman—he came on the 29th of January—we had no other male servant—there are two female servant—on the 15 the of February, between eight and nine o'clock in the morning I gave the prisoner orders to clean the plate in order that I might put the greater part of it away and said I wished it to be done before it was dark and I think I said before two o'clock he had the care of it, but it was brought up stairs every night—We

dined at two o'clock that day, and the plate had not come up—I saw it in the dinner-room and told him I was surprised he had not brought it up—I had told him of it between eight and nine o'clock in the morning, and at ten o'clock—I mentioned it to him again at tea-time, at servant o'clock and said I was extremely surprised I had had to repeat the order so often—he made no answer—I desired him to bring it up immediately; I was going to put it in the plate-chest—I did not see him any more until I heard the plate was gone—that was about five minutes to eight o'clock the same evening—I heard it through one of the servant-maids, who is here—I saw the prisoner again after hearing this—I passed him on the stairs, as I went down, and asked him whether the silver tea-pot and eream-jug were gone not supposing there had been time for them to go as it was not more than thirty-five minutes after he had taken the tea-things away—he said it was all gone—he asked me if he should go to call the police—(I did not suspect him at all at that time)—I told him to go to the station house—he went out and returned in about two minutes saying there was no policeman there—the station-house is near my mother's in Marylebone-street—I inquired how it was—he said he had found a door leading to the back of the house open—the street-door was shut when I went down—the back-door opens into the yard—there is no outlet from that yard—he said he found that door open, and somebody must have come in that way, and taken the place—I went to look if it was open but it was quite safe, as I had seen it at half-past five o'clock that evening—it was bolted and shut up, and a tell on the window—it is a window-door a double door—I told him I found it as I had seen it at half-past five o'clock—he then was in such a dreadful state of agitation he could scarcely speak at all—but he said it was open—he persisted in that—he said he had found the area-gate open, and a closet under the stairs open—we never had the area-gate open—the key of it was always kept in the sideboard-drawer—that drawer was always kept locked and we kept the key ourselves—the gales was found locked; all the plate was gone—it was kept in a basket, and brought up every night—the basket was also gone—the place consisted of the articles stated in the indictment (enumerating them)—every evening there are two tea-spoons left out, in order to bring up on the tray at eleven o'clock at night with water but they were also gone—I asked the prisoner where the tea-leaves were—he said they were thrown into a sink in the panty—I and another person looked to see if there were any, but there were none—they could not have passed through the hole of the sink.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Has any of the plate been found? A. Not any—we had three servants, including himself—he was not away two minutes when he went for a policemen—he remained in the house till half-past ten o'clock—he was then taken to the station-house—the policeman never left the house—a policeman came in less than five minutes after the prisoner returned—nobody accompanied him when he went—I believe there is nothing remarkable in the lock of the area—the prisoner came into our service in January from Mr. Gosett, who I believe is a surgeon in George-street.

ELEANOR PEART . I am cook to Mrs. Hodson On the evening in question, about half pasty seven o'clock the prisoner was sitting in the kitchen with me—there was nobody else there—he said he would have pint of beer and half a quartern of gin for his supper as he did not feel well—as he was very poorly—he said it was a usual thing for a new servant, when they were situations to stand treat—he wanted me to treat him—he

said he would be a quartern of gin to my quartern, and he said, "Do you like gin or rum best?"—I said gin would do—he went up stairs to go out for the gin—he ran down stairs immediately, and said he had found the street door open—he took the candle off the kitchen dresser, and before he had hardly time to see if the plate was gone or not, he went into the pantry with the candle, and called to me to go up-stairs, and to ask the housemaid whether she had taken the plate up-stairs or not—I went up, and she said "No"—a short time before that, I heard a bustling in the passage, which I supposed to be the prisoner, as he was not in the kitchen—it was before the tray's going up after the tea-things had gone up, but before they came down to be washed—it was in the course of the evening.

Cross-examined. Q. you did not see yourself what the bustle was created by in the passage? A. It was a whistle—I did do not know his whistle from another—I never heard him whistle—I did not go into the passage to see who it was—I had been in the house all the evening from a quarter before six—he had nothing with him when he came out of the pantry—I went up stairs immediately—I was away about five minutes, going up to the housemaid, and making it known to her—I did not go into the pantry to see if the plate was gone at the time—there is a passage between the pantry and the kitchen—the prisoner had not been out in the course of the night—the gin and beer was not brought—he had been in the house the whole evening.

THOMAS HARRIS . I am errand boy to my uncle, Charles Nixon, a brush-maker in Great Marylebone-street. On the evening in question I took a mop and dusting-brush to Mrs. Hodson's, about a quarter past seven o'clock—it was then dark—I rang the bell at the street door—before it was opened, I saw a man come up towards the door—he walked backwards and forwards two or three times—there are about four or five steps up to the door—the man stopped by the area gate of the next door—it is a false area gate—I delivered the mop and brush to the prisoner and left—I saw him make a sign to the man, and he said, "You may come now," and the man walked up the steps—as I came down the steps I met him coming up.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you remain any time there? A. No—the prisoner had nothing with him at the time—the door was open where he stood at it—not ajar—I did not look into the hall—I did not notice whether there was a lamp in the hall.

ELEANOR PEART re-examined. There was a lamp in the hall—a person at the door could look in.

KINGSTON MARK (police-constable D81.) I went to Mrs. Hodson's house in consequence of being sent for—I saw the prisoner there—he was agitated—I asked him how he accounted for the loss of the plate—he did not answer readily—he said the area door had been open—I did not find it open—he said he found the closet door open in the passage, in which he thought a person might have been concealed—I examined that closet—there were very large hamper baskets in it, which filled up the whole space—no person could have been there, in my judgment—the house is in the parish of St. Marylebone said that when he was going up for the beer or gin he found the front door open.

Cross-examined. Q. About what size is the closet? A. I should say, perhaps, two or there feet wide—it is narrow, and about six or eight feet long—they were very large hampers, and were empty—they would contain six or eight dozen of wine.

Q. Would there be any difficulty in a man conecaling himself in a

hamper which would hold six or eight dozen of wine? A. No—the outside one stood by itself—I did not search the prisoner's boxes—I went away, leaving another policeman behind me.

RICHARD BRADSHAW . I am a policeman. I went to the prosecutair's house, and saw the prisoner—I told him he must consider himself my prisoner, and go with me to the station-house—he said, "Very well"—when we got to the hall door, he said, "what do you take me into custody for?"—I said, "on suspicion of stealing the plate;" and in the street he said, "why don't you take the women as well as me, they are as much in it as I am?"—I said, "The suspicion is stronger against you"—I took him to the station-house, and while I was searching him, he said, "Why do you search me so strictly?" I said it was usual, when persons were charged with felony, to search them very strictly—he said, "you don't thing you will find the plate do you?"—next morning, as I was conveying him from the station-house to the police office, he asked me if I had found any thing on the girls, or whether they would be up at the office—I said when he got there he would see—I examined the closet that has been spoken of—a man could not be concealed there without getting into a basket—it was full of empty baskets—I examined the street door, and found there was an iron plate over the key-hole, so that it cannot be opened from outside—I also examined down stairs, where the pantry, and kitchen, and other doors are and they are in such a cluster no person cold tell the pantry door from the other doors.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you examine the area gate? A. No, I did not—I cannot tell whether it had a plate over it or not—I found 8s. 6d. in silver, and a silver watch and appendages, on the prisoner—I was present when his box was searched—I found nothing suspicious there.

COURT. Q. Are there more than one or two doors below by the kitchen? A. There are four doors altogether—a stranger could not tell which place the doors entered into, if they were shut—the stairs are not near the kitchen door—the bed-room, pantry, kitchen, and places, are all in a kind of square.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. A person might come down softly without being heard in the kitshen? A. Yes—the doors are not too near to prevent their opening—I do not think a person could see what was inside without a light—there is a window separating the pantry from the kitchen—there in a passage or hall at the bottom of the kitchen-stairs—the pantry is in that passage—the prisoner has a bed-room besides in the passage—I found the pantry door open.

ELEANOR PEART re-examined. I did not see the plate after it went up at tea—I never had any thing to do with it.

Prisoner. Q. The forks and spoons did not go up at tea? A. No.

MAGARET HUGHES . I am the prosecutrix's housemaid. I had been out that afternoon from five till a quarter after seven o'clock—I had come home before any inquiry was made about the plate—Peart came up to me to inquire if I knew any thing of it—I had gone to my mistress's room after returning, as I had been out on her business—the prisoner had let me in, and I followed him down stairs—the mop was brought after I came home—I saw it in the kitchen—I shut the door myself when the prisoner let me in—I am sure I shut it.

Cross-examined. Q. Was not the area door occasionally left open for the ends to come in? A. Not the area gate—we have not had coals it for a length of time—there is a hole to let them down—the gate is

opened for the men to came down, but it has not been opened for several months.

ELEANOR PEART . re-examined. I remember the mop and brush being brought—they were placed on the kitchen-table—the footman brought them down—it was his business to do so.

Prisoner's Defence Two nutcrackers mentioned were found on the dessert dishes.

(George warren, a flour-factor, Kent-road; and john Johns, of Holiday-yard, Creed-lane; gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 33— Transported for life.

Before Mr. Justice Gaselee.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-757
VerdictGuilty > pleaded part guilty; Guilty > pleaded part guilty

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757. JAMES HARRELL and HENRY PAGE were indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Stephen Corcellin Marsh, about ten o'clock in the night, of the 2nd of March, at St. Helen, London, with intent to steal, and stealing there in, 50 watches, value 100l.; 23 watch-chains, value 25l.; 2 buckles, value 4s.; 21 eye glasses, value 10l.; 3 lockets, value 3l. 2 pencil-ca 8, value 4s.; 7 snaps, value 7s.; 11 breast-pins, value 11s.; 30 pairs of ear rings, value 10l.; 65 brooches, value 20l.; 200 rings, value 50l20 watch-keys, value 5l. 56 seals, value 30l.; the goods of Benjamin Brushfield.—2nd COUNT stating it to be the shop of Benjamin Brushfield, and charging it to be a felonious breaking, and not burglarious.

HARRELL pleaded GUILTY . Aged 33

PAGE pleaded GUILTY . Aged 29.

To the 2nd Count.

MR. CLARKSON on behalf of the prosecution, declined offering any evidence on the 1st count.

Transported for Life.

Before Mr. Justice Gaselee.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-758
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown
SentenceTransportation; Imprisonment; Corporal > whipping

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758. THOMAS ROSS and THOMAS BROWN were indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the shop of the Benjamin Hill, on the 10th of February, at St. Luke's, and stealing therein, 51bs. weight of eels, value 1s., 6d.; 4lbs. weight of salted fish, value 9d.; and 2 herrings, value 11/2d. his goods.

JOHN HALL . I am a policeman. On Wednesday the 10th of February, I was in white cross-street at half past four o'clock in the morning, near the prosecutor's shop, on the other side of the road—I heard a noise in the shop—I went over and found the door secure as usual, with a chain and padlock on—I called to my brother constable Bartlett, and went to find Mr. Hill—he does not sleep at the shop—I left Bartlett there—I returned with Mr. Hill in about twenty minutes, and found Bartlett still there—Mr. Hill opened the door—we found the back door broken open—I searched the premises outside, and during the time I was searching there, the two prisoners dropped over a wall into a passage—Barlett apprehended Ross with the eels in his cap, and brought him into the shop—Ross said if we would only let him go he would never do so any more—he said that it was his brother-in-law who was with him, and that they both lived at No.3, Chequer-alley, with their father-in-law—Bartlett had some salt fish in his possession, which the other prisoner dropped as he ran away—I took Ross to the station-house—Hargrave we took Browm on the Saturday.

WILLIAM BARNATT . I am a policeman. I stood by the stop while Had fetched Mr. Hall. I went up Reform-place, which is the adjoining passage and waited there eight or ten minutes—I then saw the two prisoners

drop from a wall—I followed and succeeded in searching Ross—he dropped this cap containing eels, and two herrings stuck in his bosom—I tried to search Brown, but could not get a firm hold of him, and he got away—he dropped this salt fish tied up in his own cup—he acknowledged it to be his cap at Worship-street—I am sure he is the boy.

(The prisoner Brown being deaf, his mother communicated the evidence to him.)

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did you see the boy come down from the wall? A. I did—it was rather better that half-past four o'clock in the morning—I had no lantern, but there was a gas-light a very short distance, just at the entrance of the archway in Banner-street—the wall is at the side of the adjoining house—they got over one wall—Brown got away from me directly I caught hold of him—I did mot see him again till he was in custody—he was taken on the Saturday, and remanded till the Friday following, and then I saw him.

COURT. Q. Do you know that it was his cap you found the fish in? A. He said at Worship-street that it was his—that was in the room where the depositions were taken—where the clerks were writing.

JOHN HALL re-examined I did not see Brown on the 19th—Bartlett brought Ross out of the passage into the house—I did not see Brown till he was apprehended—I do not know that the cap was his, except from what he said when the despositions were taken.

BENJAMIN HILL . My shop is in the parish of St. Luke, I have seen the fish—I lost fish just like that—I cannot swear to it—I missed some of that kind, which I had left in the shop the night before—they are of very small value.

THOMAS HARGRAVE . I am a policeman. In consequence of information, I took Brown on Saturday, the 13th of February, in Bunhill-row—when he saw me he ran—I pursued him and took him into custody—I said, "I want you, young fellow"—he said, "Pray let me go, I will never do so any more I have only been in once before"—the prisoners both live in one house, in Chequer-alley.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you ever been to Brown's house? A. I have—his father is a spur-maker; so they say.

ELIZA BROWN . I married the prisoner Brown's father eight years ago. He is seventeen years old—his father is a spur-maker, and he had been brought upto his father's business, and can work very well—his father works at home, for Mr. Gooding, of London-wall—the prisoner sleeps at home in the same room as us—he got out on this night—neither his father nor I heard him—when the policeman came to knock at our door, It was fastened outside with a little chain—it fastens inside with a button—I do not know how it came fastened outside—our circumstances are not very good—the prisoner had not been half starved—he does work and I go and sell it—Ross is my own son—Brown my son-in-law—they slept together—both got out of the room—the father heard Ross moving about, and asked him what he was doing—he said he only wanted to po—Brown came home next morning, about eight o'clock—I sent Ross his breakfast at the station-house, at nine o'clock—Ross will be eleven years old next December—I have only one child which is two years and a quarter old, by my present husband.

WILLIAM BARTLETT re-examined. I did not see Brown again till the 19th—I saw enough of him to be positive he is the same person.

ROSS— GUILTY . Aged 12— Transported for Seven Years.

BROWN— GUILTY Aged 16— Confined three Months, and Whipped.

Before Mr. Justice Park.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-759
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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759. RALPH ALLANSON was indicted for stealing, on the 28th of February, 5 shawls, value 4l. 10s.; 1 box, value 2l., 12s.; 35 yards of silk, value, 4l. 3s.; and 1 ounce weight of sewing silk, value 1s. 6d.; the goods of Elijah May and others, his masters, in the dwelling-house of the said Elijah May.

ELIJAH MAY . I live in Whitechapel. The shop is part of the dwelling-house—I have two partners—the rent is paid by the firm—the prisoner was in our employment for about three weeks—On Saturday, the 20th of February, I received information from some of the young men, and took this shawl, value 30s., from the prisoner's pocket—it has my mark on it, "d-o"—it is my own handwriting—I sent for an officer, and he was searched—it was about eight o'clock in the evening—some sewing-silk worth about 1s. 6d., was found in his different pockets—a lady's sable bon was twisted round his body, his shirt, with my private mark for 2l. 10s. on it—when I took the shawl from him, he said he hoped I would have pity on him for the sake of his friends—I went with the officer to his bed-room, and searched a box which he had borrowed of me.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Have you two partners besides yourself? A. Yes; two brothers—he was the servant of the firm, at 45l. a year, besides his board and lodging—he had received nothing.

THOMAS HOVEE . I am in the employ of Messrs. May, and have been there three weeks—I remember the prisoner being there, and his being taken into custody—he slept in the same bed with me—after he was in custody, I went up to our bed-room, and in the presence of three or four others, searched about the bed, and on the side of the bed he slept on—I found four shawls between the bed and the mattress—these are the shawls, they have the shop-mark on them—I found this piece of silk in the warehouse, between the rafters and ceiling—he had been in that warehouse.

GUILTY. Aged 29.—of stealing, but not in the Dwelling-house.

Transported for Fourteen Years.

Before Mr. Justice Gaselee.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-760
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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760. WILLIAM HENRY SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of February, at St. Marylebone, 1 pocket-book, value 6d.; 2 sovereigns; 1 £10 and 1 £5 Bank-note; the goods and monies of Thomas Naylor, in the dwelling-house of Charles John Brooks.

THOMAS NAYLOR . I am a shopman to Charles John Brooks, a linen-draper, in Duke-street, Manchester-square, in the parish of St. Marylebone—the prisoner was also a shopman—he was discharged from Mr. Brooks service on the 1st of February—on the 21st of January 1 gave Miss Husband a cheque to get changed for me—I have the cheque, here it is, for 28l. 5s., and I gave her 1l. 15s. in money—I told her to get six £5 notes for the cheque—in the evening of that day I called on her, and received six £5 notes—I put them in a purse, and put them in a red-pocketbook which I put in my box—I locked my box, and put the key in my pocket—the last time I went to the box and saw the money safe, was on Thursday night, the 4th of February—there were five £5 and £10 notes, and two sovereigns in the pocket-book—I put the book and its contents back into the box, and locked it—I saw the prisoner on Saturday evening, the 6th of February, about nine o'clock, when he came to fetch his portmanteau away from my employer—it was in the bed-room he had slept in, which joins mine—he went up stairs to teach his portmanteau

down, and remained in the shop till we had closed—I went out with him and two others about ten o'clock, to a place, to have a glass of ale, and then I left him with another person, and did not see him afterwards—on the Sunday morning, about eight o'clock, I discovered my box had been broken open, and the pocket-book, containing the property described, missing—I saw the prisoner on the Wednesday after, between half-past six and a quarter to seven o'clock, going to Drury-lane theatre—I went up to him directly, and asked him if he was not ashamed of what he had been doing, and then he asked me what for—I immediately asked him, "How is my box?"—he wanted to speak to me, but I would not hear what he had to say till I got him before an officer—?I took him out of the theatre to a public-house, (I believe called the Albion,) and then gave him in charge of an officer—he was taken to the police-station and searched, and the property the constable has now in his possession was found on him—we took him before a Magistrate.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. I am told you are a very kind, good-hearted man, and was very much disposed to induce the Magistrate to forgive him? A. I did not wish to press the charge—the Magistrate thought it imperative that I should—the prisoner told me he had been in the employ of Mr. Meeking, of Holborn-hill—my master has no partner—I have lived with him eight years.

THOMAS SOPER . I am a policeman. On the 10th of February, between six and seven o'clock in the evening, I was sent for to the Albion public-house, and saw Mr. Naylor—he gave the prisoner into my custody—there was a bit of a scuffle in the place—he told me he had robbed him—I took him to the station-house, searched him, and found a £5 note, nineteen sovereign, one half-sovereign, 17s. 6d. in silver, and 2 1/2 d. in copper—he did not say any thing about them till he got before the Magistrate—I have the £5 note, No. 22693, dated the 7th of December, 1835—I have a cloak and cap—he did not any where he got them, except before the Magistrate.

THOMAS NAYLOR re-examined. That is one of the notes I received from Miss Husband.

WILLIAM TYSON . I am clerk to Sir Claude Scott and Co. I do not remember giving Miss Husband change for a cheque—I have my book here—(looking at the note) this is one of the notes I paid for a cheque on the 21st of January.

Prisoner. I have to thank the prosecutor for the lenity he has shown me, both at the office and also in his evidence here—I am very sorry it has occurred—I have been led away by a party, who certainly brought me into it—I did it innocently.

GUILTY. Aged 18.—Strongly recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor, an account of his youth.— Transported for Life.

Before Mr. Recorder.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-761
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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761. MATTHEW GAHAGAN was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of February, 2 coal-sacks, value 9s., the goods of Daniel Cloves and others.

MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM RIDDLE . I am in the employ of Daniel Cloves and others, coal-merchants, at Ratcliff. On Saturday, the 6th of February, I went on the premises, between eight and nine o'clock at night—all business was over them—there is a gate leading to the wharf, but only the wicket was open—as I went down the wharf, I saw the prisoner coming from the coalwaggon,

out of the wharf—the waggon had sacks in is—he had no business on the premises—I called to him, and asked him what he had there—he said, "Sacks"—he made away for the wicket, but he saw a lighterman, and then turned off, and made off over the wharf—he threw the sacks down—Nicholls was coming up—he had got about three yards from the waggon when he threw the sacks down—there was employment for him at the gas works on the Monday It was his business in come to assist in delivering coals at the gas works, adjoining the wharf, but he did not come I did not see him again till he was and at the station-house, is King David-lane—when he threw the sacks down, the watchman, Warne, picked them up—I followed him and locked them up—I put a mark on them first—they are here saw—Cloves and Co, have lost a great many sacks—I am certain I saw him throw the sacks down—we generally leave off business about seven o'clock.

JOHN WARNE . I am in the employ of Cloves and Co., as a watchman. On the night of the 6th of February, I was called by Nicholls, and went very near the top of the yard—I picked up two sacks, which I locked up in Riddle's presence, and gave him the key—he put his mark on them.

WILLIAM RIDDLE re-examined. They are marked, "DPC"—I know them to be my employers' sacks.

JOHN MURRAY (police-constable K 178.) I received two coal-sacks from Riddle, on the 9th of February, and apprehended the prisoner on the 11th, in Tooley-street, Borough, about four miles from where he resides—I told him the charge—he made no answer to it.

DAVID WHITE . I am a sack-maker. I made these sacks for Messrs, Cloves.

Prisoner's Defence. I went there to ease myself—Riddle asked me what I had—I told him I had nothing—I had no sacks—he cannot say I had.

WILLIAM RIDDLE re-examined. I saw them under his arm and saw him drop them—he came right under the gas-lamp.

GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined Three Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-762
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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762. SARAH DIX was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of February, 1 towel, value, 8d.; 1 printed book, value 1s., 6d.; and 1 pair of pattens, value 6d.; the goods to Thomas Macnamara.

SARAH MACNAMARA . I am the wife of Thomas Macnamara, and five in Buck's-row, Whitechapel. The prisoner came to me, and hired an unfurnished room, on the 12th of January; and next day I missed a towel, and on the 21st I missed a Bible; and a pair of pattens of the 5th of February—I have since seen them at Folkard's the pawnbroker, and the Bible at Hawes's in Whitechapel.

Prisoner Q. Do you recollect lending me the pattens? A. A fortnight before I did—I told you I would not lend them to you again, because you detained them so long.

COURT. Q. Did she return them to you? A. Yes, she brought them back.

Prisoner. I certainly pawned the book for 6d. when I wanted a few things—I did not do it with any felonious intention—I intended to redeem them—she lent me the Bible and pattens. Witness. I never missed the Bible—I never suspected her.

CHARLES JONES . I am shopman to James Folkard, of Upton-place, Commercial-road, a pawnbroker. I produce a towel pawned on the 12th of

January with me for 4d.—I do not know who by, whether it was a man or a woman—I do not recollect the case at all—this is my signature (looking at his deposition)—the towel was pawned with me, I suppose, because I took it in—I know my own writing—the ticket is in my writing—I never swore I knew who the woman was—I do not know whether it was a woman or a man, but I said most likely, it was a woman, because it was in the name of Jane Smith, but I have no recollection of the circumstances—I am not in the habit of taking in pledges from a man in the same of a woman, or from a woman in the name of a man.

WILLIAM GREEN . I live with Mr. Hawes in Whitechapel-road. I produce a Bible, pledged on the 21st of June, in the name of Ann Smith—I have a slight recollection of the prisoner by her coming to the house, but I cannot swear it was her who pawned the article—I advanced 6d., on it—It is worth about 1s. 6d.

JOHN ROBERTS (police-constable K 53.) I took the prisoner into custody—at the station-house I asked her what she had got about her—she delivered up seven duplicates to me; and Mary Hampton gave me five, some of which relate to this charge—those the prisoner gave me did not—I have not said that they did—my depositions was read to me before I signed it.

MARY HAMPTON . I gave five duplicates to John Roberts—there are them—the prisoner left them on my mantel-piece, wrapped in a piece of a letter, which she had written to Mr. Dix, whom she lived with—there was a piece of work about a handkerchief—the policeman came to my house, and I delivered them up to him, rolled up in the piece of the letter.

JOHN ROBERTS re-examined. There was no letter delivered to me—the duplicates were given into my hand without any paper round them.

Prisoner. They were not rolled up in any thing—there was eleven duplicates—I asked you to take care of them for me—where are the rest?

MARY HAMPTON . You said before the Sergeant that it was all correct—five are all you delivered to me.

WILLIAM GREEN . Here is among these five duplicates a counterpart of mine—it is n to my writing—I did not take the pledge in.

CHARLES JONES . Here is the counterpart of the duplicate of the towel among these five.

JOHN ROBERTS re-examined. I got the pattens from Mr. Frit, a pawnbroker, in Ratcliff-highway—he could not attend at the office and gave them up to me—he was not bound over—I apprehended the prisoner on the 15th of February.

Prisoner's Defence. I do not know any thing of the towel—I pawned the Bible for 6d. one morning when I was without a halfpenny, intending to fetch it out when I got my money.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

GUILTY of stealing the towel only.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-763
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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763. SARAH DIX was again indicted for stealing on the 11th of February, 1 handkerchief, value 5s., the goods of Henry Vincent.

JANE VINCENT . I am the wife of Henry Vincent. He keeps a beer-shop in Copper Chapman-street, St. George's—on the 11th of February the prisoner came to the bar and asked for a pint of four-penny ale—I knew before, I served her—she then asked if I would allow her to go into my back kitchen to leave an old saucepan and pillow which she had in her hand—I gave her leave—my servant had just washed a silk handkerchief,

and hung it on a line—she came out of the kitchen without the pillow and saucepan, but she went into the kitchen a second times—I saw her coming out, and putting something in her pocket, but I had no saucepan—directly she was gone I missed a handkerchief from the kitchen—I went to her lodging that evening, but did not see her—I went again next morning, and charged her with stealing my handkerchief—she denied it, and called God to witness she knew nothing about it—I said if she had pawned it, to give me up the duplicate, and I would say nothing about it—she would not own to it, and I came out of the house. threatening her—I found the handkerchief at Hawes's, the pawnbroker.

MARY HAMPTON . I live in Cornwall-street, St. George-in-the-East. I have known the prisoner for the last four years—on the 11th of February she came to me, and stood before my fire, and dried a wet silk handkerchief—it appeared just washed—she said it belonged to Mr. Dix, and would I have the goodness to pawn it for her, for she had no money—she said she was to meet Dix in the afternoon, and he was to give her a sovereign, and they were going to live together again—I know they had lived together for many years—she said she could not pawn it herself, because Mr. Dix had advertized in the public papers for nobody to take any thing in pawn from her—she pleaded such distress to me that I left my work, and went to pawn it at Hawes's, in Ratcliffe-highway, where she told me to take it, and put it in the name of "T. Howard 2, Turner's Folly"—I did so—on Sunday morning my daughter and I were at breakfast, when Clements came and gave information about a handkerchief—I went over to the prosecutrix and told her where the handkerchief was—I had pawned it for 1s., 6d., and delivered the ticket and money up to the prisoner—this is the handkerchief.

Prisoner. I am sorry to see a woman stand there and swear every word that is false—in the first place, she says I brought her the handkerchief and asked her to pawn it, as my husband's property, and that I said I did not like to be seen at pawnbrokers' shops, because my husband had gazetted me in the papers, and denied pawnbrokers taking things of me—every word is false—I told her I had found a handkerchief, and instead of my asking her to pawn it, she asked me to let her pawn it—in the ness place, she told me to pawn it when it was mangled—she mangled it herself, and it can be proved. Witness. It is all false, every word she is saying.

JANE VINCENT re-examined. This is my handkerchief—I loss it is a wet state.

ERASMUS CHARLTON (police-constable K 1.) I received the handkerchief from Mr. Hawes's shopman—he is laid up with eryaipelas.

Prisoner's Defence I did not go into the room—I went though the back kitchen, at the end of which is the privy, and at the privy door I picked the handkerchief up, rolled up—it was damp, but not wet—I never opened I till I went to Mrs. Hampton's—she opened it herself, and proposed pawning it—she took it and mangled it, and pawned it herself, and had part of the money.

GUILTY . Aged 48.— Confined Six Months.

First Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-764
VerdictsNot Guilty > unknown

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764. CHARLES CATLIN was indicted for stealing, on the 11th of February, 1 coal sacks, value 18s., the goods of Daniel Cloves and others; and EDWARD BRYANT was indicted for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing them to be stolen, against the Statue, &c.

MR. DOANE conducted the prosecution

JOHN MURRAY (police-constable K 178.) On the morning of the 11th of February I went to the premises of the prisoner Bryant, in Charles-palce, Ratoliffe—I have known him, six or seven years—he deals in coke—I asked him if he had bought any sacks of a man called Fish of Gahagan—he said, "No"—I asked if he had bought any of any body else—he said, "No, I have not, Mr. Murray"—I then asked him where the sacks were which he worked with—he said he had got but three, and they were at the was factory—I asked him to go there with me—he said he would go up and put on his boots and go with me—it was about half-past six or a quarter to seven o'clock in the morning—when he went up stairs I heard a scuffling over my lead, and called out to him, "Halloo, Bryant, that won't do"—he then came down stairs with two sacks in his hand, and said then he had got six—I asked him where he got them from—he said he bought them in Rosemary-lane, of a man, eight or nine mouths ago, and gave 4s. 6d. a piece for than; and that the man kept a green-grocer's shop—I asked him if he had got any more up-stairs—he said, "No"—I then went up-stairs myself and hand one sack lying alongside of his wife, who was lying there very ill, and complained of having three broken ribs—I came down stairs and went into the yard, and in the privy I found one sack with a dog lying on it—I came in and found another in a dark corner of the front room, which I had been in before—I asked him to go with me to the gas factory, which he did—he gets his coke from there—he picked up three sacks there, and gave to me, making eight altogether—I then took him to the station-house—he was taken before the Justice, and remanded till the 15th—he gave the Magisrtrate a description of the person he said he bought them of, and in consequence of what he said I took Cutlin into custody on the 20th—I brought less out of the cell into Bryant's presence, and said, "Is that the man you bought the sacks of?"—Bryant said, "It is all right; that is the man"—Galdin said, "Certainly, I did sell him four sacks"—Bryant picked out four sock's in Catlin's presence, before the Magistrate—I think what he said was takes down.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. If I undersatnd you right, it was by Byrant's description that you got Catlin at all? A. It was so—the asks I found in the gas factory are not in this indictment—he came down stairs with his shoes on—I have known him a long time—he has four of five chilgdren—the place is miserable enough.

COURT. Q. Before he said he had but three, and they were at the gas factory, you had not asked him how many sacks he had in use? A. I did not ask him how many he had in his possession—I asked him where those were he worked with, and he said they were at the gas factory—I asked him first if he had bought any of Fishy Gahagan, and he said no—he did not mention Catlin's name, but he described the man, and his lodging in Dunstan-place—he said he was a little short man, living at No. 20 or 21, Dunstan-place, and that led me to Catlin's—he had lived there, but was not living there when I took him.

DAVID WHITE . I am in the employ of Daniel Cloves and others, as a sack-maker. I have examined these sacks, and know the to be Messers. Cloves's by my own workmanship—I know five of them—I make for nobody but Cloves'—the marks I put on them been picked out, but I know my own work on them—I have made them all within the last year I cannot say their value—they are about 5s. a piece new—4s. 6d. would

be the full price for them—I have seen Catlin on the wharf—he has expried the sacks to and fro to the waggon—we have missed a great man sacks for the last six months.

Catlin. Q. Is it possible for any man to come from the wharf with a sack about him, and not be perceived by somebody about? A. I am can not tell whether a man might conceal one about him or not—Catlin went out with the waggons at times the waggons all stand in the open yard with the sacks in them—there is a wicket-gate, which is not always shut—it is sometimes open till seven or eight o'clock—there was nothing to prevent any body from walking in and taking a sack, that I know of, but fear

WILLIAM RIDDLE . I am foreman to Messrs, Cloves. They have two wharfs—Catlin was employed by me on the wharf, and knew the premises very well—he had no business to take sacks off the premises—I never sold him any—we have missed a great quantity of sacks—there is very easy access to them.

JOHN MURRAY re-examined. The sacks were not produced when Catlin spoke of Bryant having sold him some—they were not visible till they went before the Magistrate—Bryant selected four in the presence of the Magistrate and of the prisoner—I omitted to state, that when I went Catlin's room, to take him into custody, I told him the charge, and he said he expected it before.

MR. SIMMONS. I am clerk to the Magistrate. I was present at the examination of the prisoners before Mr. Coomb—I took down what passed, and the Magistrate authenticated it with his signature—I have faithfully taken down what the prisoner said.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Was all this taken in the presence of the prisoners? A. Yes, it was—it is at times the custom to go into another room to take the depositions, and afterwards read them ones in the prisoners' presence—the whole of these examinations were taken in the presence of the prisoners—I took what the prisoners said from their own months, and read it over to them after taking it down—I asked if they were willing to sign it—they declined doing it—they assented to the truth of the statements—I did not ask them the question—they did not give me time to ask if they were true or not, but they stated that they were true—when asked to sign them, they said they did not know what might be the consequence of that, and declined—I am sure the prisoner said it was true, though they declined signing it—it is entered on the examination precisely as it occurred—I read the three lines stated by Catlin.

I looked at him, waited a moment, and he said, "That is true"—I went on with the further statement made by Bryant—I turned to him in the same way, and he said, "That is true"—after it had been read, they were asked whether they would sign it, and declined—I did not ask if it was true, but looked at them, and they both said it was true—I forget their words, but they distinctly admitted the truth, saying "It is true," or "That is right," or words to that effect—I will not undertake to say what particular phrase they used I rather think it was confined to one or two words.

(This statement was not read.)


29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-765
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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765. PATRICK CRAWLEY was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of February, 1 watch, value 1l.; 1 coat, value 7s.; 11 yards of flanned, value 11s.; 10 yards of sarsenet, value 1l.; 3 sheets, value 6s.; 1 shawl, value 1l.; and one apron, value 7d.; the goods of Thomas Woods.

MARY WOODS . I am the wife of Thomas Woods, and live as the Salmon and Ball, in Bunhill-row. I lost the articles stated in the indictment on the 25th of February—I saw the watch last night at the station-house—the prisoner is my own brother—he came to visit me last Thursday fortnight, and left on the 25th of February—he did not tell me he was going—I was not at home—I came home at nine o'clock, and missed him.

Prisoner. I came to see her, and she gave me some of these things to pay my way with. Witness. I did not—I did not lend him any, or knew of his taking them.

Prisoner. You sent word for me to come from Ireland, and said you had something to give me, because I was poor—and you gave me the clothes and watch to pay my way home. Witness. I did not—I have spoken the truth—I did not give him any of them—I never opened my lips to him about them.

WILLIAM CROSS . I am high-constable of Aylesbury, in Buckinghamshire, I saw the prisoner at Aylesbury, on the 26th of February, in a silversmith's shop, offering this watch for sale—he had a large parcel on his back—I called to him as he went away, and inquired of him what he had got—he said they were things his sister had given him to fetch home to his wife in Ireland—I took them back to the silversmith's shop, and examined the bundle—I found a coat, three shirts, some flannel, arsenate, and a variety of other things—he said his sister lived somewhere in Angel-court—I wrote a letter to that place, and found the woman—it was in the prosecutrix's neighbourhood—I had an answer to the letter, and the Magistrate committed him, and an application was made for a hubeas to bring him up here.

Prisoner. I got the things from my sister—I sent a letter to her—and she gave me an answer that she had given me the things.

MARY WOODS re-examined. These are all my husband's property, and were all in my house the day the prisoner left—I never lent them to him, or gave him any one of them—I did not know of his taking them, till I came home at nine o'clock at night—I am in the haberdashery lime, and attend the markets—I had been to Romford, in Essex, that day, to sell haberdashery—I had not sent for him to come over from Ireland—he told me he started from home last Monday three weeks—I did not invite him over—he told me he had buried his wife, and had nothing to depend on, and came to me to see if I could give him assistance—I had no assistance for myself, but said if he would wait with patience I would let him have some of what I had, and would do the best for him, as he was my own brother—and without my knowledge he went off with the things.

GUILTY. Aged 36.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutrix .

Confined Six Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-766
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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766. HENRY SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of February, a cloak, value 1l. 15s., the goods of Simon Simmons.

SIMON SIMMONS . I keep a masquerade-warehouse, and am a tailor in holywell-street, Strand. On the 23rd of last month, I was engaged with a lady and gentleman in my shop, about six o'clock in the evening, a little did named Davess ran in and said a man had taken a cloak off my door, and

run down the street—I immediately ran out, and observed the prisoner running down the street, with the cloak over his arm—I ran after him, and when he got to the end of the street, he turned round towards the Strand, and threw the cloak down,—I took it up and ran after him again, stopped him, and brought him back—I met a policeman, and gave him into custody—I did not lose sight of him after he dropped the cloak—he had turned the corner before he threw it down, and I lost him for a moment—this is the cloak.

Prisoner. He is a falses wearing man to say he saw me running up the street, I never touched the cloak. Witness. He was running with it over his arm—he was not running when I caught him—he had done running after he threw it away, and had one hand in his pocket—he did not see me following him, that I know of—I did not call out "Stop thief," but called out, "That man has taken my cloak," loud enough for him to hear it, and a little further on he dropped it.

MARY ANN DAVESS . I live next door to the prosecutor. I saw the prisoner take the cloak off the peg—it was inside the door—he rolled it up, put it under his arm, and ran away with it—I told the prosesecutor, who followed him—it was under his arm.

Prisoner. I was coming up the street on the other side of the way, I never touched the cloak, and never saw it till it was brought to the station-house.

Witness. I am certain he is the man—he was dressed as he is now.

WILLIAM HODGSON (police-constable F 72.) I took the prisoner into custody on the 23rd of February, from Mr. Simmons, with the property. MR. SIMMONS re-examined. The cloak was hanging over his arm though he had it under it.

Prisoner's Defence. I was going up the street, a man came running past me, and ran before me, when the gentleman caught hold of me.

MR. SIMMONS. I observed nobody else running—I had such an observation of the prisoner as to he quite positive of him—I had him in sight the whole length of the street.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Three Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-767
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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767. MARIA BURNE was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of November, 1 box, value 1d.; 25 dominoes, value 1s.; 100 yards of braid, value 12s.; and 2 watch-guards, value 6s.; the goods of John Delaney—2nd COUNT stating them to be the goods of Elizabeth Delaney.

ELIZABETH DELANEY . I am the wife of John Delaney. He is abroad—I do not know whether he is alive—I have not heard from him for three years—I live in Long-alley, Moorfields—the prisoner lodged with me, and left on the 20th of November—I missed a box of brass dominoes and some braid—the braid was worth 18s—we had a few words, and she moved, but still lived in the same house—I have seen then since in the possession of Ann Gramshaw.

Prisoner Q. Had not I left your room a fortnight before you missed the braid? A. No—she only went to the adjoining room, but she had communication with my room till the very day she left—she left the house altogether on the day she went into the service of the next prosecutor—I did not treat her harshly—I kept her for thirteen weeks without receiving any money.

ANN GRAMSHAW . I am the wife of John Gramshaw, jeweller, and live in Goswell-street. The prisoner came into our service on the 20th of

November—the first day she came, she gave my child a box domindes to play with—I took them from the child, and put them into a box is my room and she gave me one guard, made of braid, and another partly made saying, my husband might put gold tubes on it, and put it into the window is sell—the said she made it herself—I asked her to finish the other ones—she said she would—and one afternoon when she had not much at do, I asked her to finish it—she said had not got her tools which she need—I do not think tools are used to finish them—I have seen them made without—I afterwards gave the box of dominoes to Reed.

Prisoner. I did not give the box to her—I saw it on her mental-piece the first day I was at her house. Witness, If you had not given it me I should not come to give evidence against you—I took them from the child, thinking he might put them in his mouth being brass—I had not such a thing in my house till she came to me.

ROBERT REED (police-constable G 19.) I produce a box of dominoes which I received from Gramshaw's shop, and the braid.

ELIZABETH DELANEY re-examined. I know this guard—it is my daughter's—they work at the business of making braid—I had the dominoes five years—I have not heard of my husband from the first year he went away—he is gone to America—he desired me, and my son went with him—the guard is not made with tools—this is the braid.

Prisoner's Defence I have always been a servant, and always lived in respectable places—I am innocent of what is brought against me—I know nothing about it—I never saw such a thing—I never laid my hand on any thing belonging to her—I was out of place for some time.

GUILTY, on the 1st Count. Aged 24.— Confined Six Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-768
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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768. MARIA BURNE was again indicted for stealing, on the 1st of February, 6 caps, value 9s.; 59 yards of ribbon, value 17s.; 12 reels of cotton, value 3s.; 12 yards of bobbin, value 3d.; and 1 pair of mitts, value 1s.; the goods of John Joseph Gramshaw, her master.

ANN GRAMSHAW . I am the wife of John Joseph Gramshaw. The prisoner was my servant—I lost this property—I have only found some of the ribbon—the prisoner was about four months in our service—she had lost her character, and I took her out of charity—she went from me to Mr. West's, in Banner-street, a hardwareman—I missed two nightcaps and some cotton the first week she came—she said she had not seen the caps, but she might have misplaced the cotton—I missed some galloon, five yards of gauze ribbon, some bobbin, and mitts, and half a dozen caps—we went to Mr. West's and found them in her basket—she had lived there ten days—I had no quarrel with her—she had a sister who had come from Ireland—she sent for her unknown to me—I got a friend, a captain, to take her home, and I took her as my servant till she went home—I gave the prisoner an excellent character to West—the sister lived with me about a fortnight, and was very impertinent indeed—she did not sleep at my house—I went to her lodging, and found several trinkets, and then the prisoner was taken, and these things found on her.

MARY GRIMWOOD . I am servant to Mr. West, a hardwareman, in Banner-street, I went into his service three weeks next Monday—I gave some things to the policeman, which I got out of my bed-room—the room was not used by any body but myself—the prisoner used it before I came—I never saw her there—she had left when I came—I merely found the things and gave them to Reed.

ROBERT REED . I am a policeman. I produce the articles which I received from Grimwood.

JAMES WATTS (police-constable G 89.) I apprehended the prisoner at Mr. West's house, and took her to the station-house—I afterwards found the property I produce, in a basket—it was given to me by Mr. West.

FRANCES BURKE . I have seen that basket in my place—the prisoner's uster brought it to my house, and she gave it to the prisoner—they both lodged at my house—I have seen the prisoner wear the nightcap—the first night she came she had none at all, and the next night she had two on together—they were the same make and shape as those produced.


29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-769
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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769. HENRY ARCHIBALD BOWMAN was indicted for embezzlement.

JOHN EDNEY . I live in St. John-street. The prisoner was my servant, and has been employed to receive money on my account, and do what I wanted him—I am a house-agent—he has been nearly five years with me—his wages had been increasing as he grew up—latterly he has had 6s. a week—he did not board in the house, but with his uncle.

ELIZA GARNHAM . I am the wife of William Garnham, and keep a green-grocer's shop. On the 18th of February, I paid the prisoner 10s. for his master, Mr. Edney, who is the agent for our landlord, and collects the rents—I have our rent book here—I have paid him money very often for rent—here is the entry of the 10s.—the prisoner has written in it, "18th of February, 10s."—part of the rest is in his writing, and some of it is his master's.

Prisoner. On that day it was 9s. she paid me, but I gave her a receipt for 10s., because master had a shilling out in some way. Witness. It was the week before that the 9s. was paid—on the 18th of February I paid 10s.—his master the week before had had some vegetables of me.

MARTHA WRIGHT . I am the wife of William Wright, a Jeweller, and live in Northampton-street. On the 16th of February, the prisoner came to me for my rent—I paid him 9s.—he has entered it in two 4s. 6s.—it was for two weeks—I paid it to him for Mr. Edney, as the house-agent.

ELIZABETH SPEARS . I am the wife of William Spears. On the 11th of January, I paid the prisoner 3s. 6s.—I produce my book, in which he entered it—it was to be paid to his master on account of rent—the prisoner wrote that entry.

JOHN EDNEY re-examined. The prisoner never paid me these amounts—when I applied to Mrs. Spears for her money, she said she had paid him—. I told her to wait till he came in' and when he came in, he said he had got the money at home, that he had received it, but had received none for any other account—this was on the 25th of February—he had not told me that he had received it before, and he said it was the only one he had received—I used to make out a list every Monday morning for him—he always brought me the others—I was astonished that these people were charged him with it, in my presence.

Prisoner. I throw myself on the mercy of the Court.

GUILTY. Aged 16.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined One Month.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-770
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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770. JOSEPH PRODGERS was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of February, 1 truck, value 3l. the goods of James Brown.

JAMES BROWN I am a farrier, and live in Cutler-street, Houndaditch. I let out trucks—last Saturday evening, at a quarter to seven o'clock, I found my yard door broken open, and a truck gone—on the morning of the 29th of February, a policeman came to me—I went to the station-house, in Featherstone-street, and there I found the truck—it is worth 3l.—I left it safe at twenty minutes to nine o'clock, when I went on the Jury to Court of Common Pleas.

SAMUEL BENSON . I attend Mr. Brown's premises, on liking, as an apprentice. I saw the truck safe in the yard about two o'clock on the 27th of February—I missed it when master told me of it, about seven o; clock in the evening.

JAMES EADY (police-constable G 62.) On Saturday, the 27th of February. I met the prisoner drawing the truck, in Whitecross-street—I asked him what he was going to do with it—he said he was going to take it to the Green Yard; that a woman in a white straw bonnet had given him 2d. to take it to the Green Yard—I said, "The Green Yard is over the way"—I went part of the way with him, having suspicion is was stolen—I called my brother officer, asked his advice, and took the prisoner into custody with it—he appeared to have been drinking—he stated at the police-office, if he had not been drunk, he would not have taken the truck.

Prisoner. Did not you show me into the Green Yard, and tell me to stand at the door while you fetched the key? I stopped five minutes, and instead of bringing the key, you brought another policeman. Witness, I did not tell him to stand there—I saw another policeman coming by, and called him to ask his advice—I did not leave the prisoner standing at the entrance of the Green Yard—I was not in the Green Yard—the door was locked—it was about eleven o'clock at night—it about half a mile from where Brown lives.

JAMES BROWNS re-examined. I have seen the truck outside—it is the one I lost—he was stopped a mile from where I live.

Prisoner's Defence. It is truth that the woman gave me 2d.—I had it is the same street—I was glad to earn 2d.—I had the 2d. in my hand.

JAMES EADY . I found 2 1/2d. on him—had 2d. in his hand—he had no implement but a knife.

JAMES BROWN re-examined. The door seemed to be wrenched open with a crow-bar—the staple and plate were broken off—here is the padlock, which was wrenched off—the hasp and padlock were forced off and the padlock thrown into the yard—we always kept the yard locked up—I found it out at a quarter before seven o'clock

JAMES EADY re-examined. He was drawing the truck with both hands—I saw no woman near him—I was not aware he had 2nd in his hand when I first stopped him—I did not see it till afterwards—I first observed it going down to the station-house—he had hold of the truck then—he had an opportunity of taking it out of his pocket—the halfpenny was in his pocket.


NEW COURT,—Saturday, March 5th, 1836.

First Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-771
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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771. THOMAS BACEY was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of February, 1 pair of shoes, value 5s.; and 8 ounces of leather, value 6d.; the goods of William Jones, his master, to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 30.— Confined Three Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-772
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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772. LOUISA DARBY was indicted for stealing 11b. weight of becon, the goods of Robert Ritchie and another, to which she pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 30.— Confined Six Days.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-773
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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773. MARY NURSE was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of May, 2 candlesticks, value 16s.; 5 yards of carpeting, value 10s.; 1 pair of shaffers and tray, value 4s.; and 1 decanter, value 5s.; the goods of George Selby, her master.

Mr. Clarkson conducted the prosecution.

GEORGE SELBY . I am a solicitor, and live in Sergeant's Inn, Fleet-street. The prisoner was in my service last May—I missed a variety of articles—a girl was in the habit of coming backwards and forwards to assist the prisoner—in consequence of my loss, I mentioned the circumstances to the prisoner about a month ago—she said she dare say that the girl had put them away, or taken them home to clean—from that time I desired the girl should come no more—last Sunday week I spoke to the prisoner again—I said the things were not produced—I insisted upon having them produced, and said it was all nonsense about their being put away—she then said they were pawned, and produced ten or a dozen duplicates, and said the others were at Mr. Cottrell's—I took these into my possessions—I took her into custody lost Monday—I went to Cottrell's and one of him young men delivered up about thirty things before Sir Chapman Marshall, at Guildhall, I recognised them as what I had lost.

Prisoner. I did not take them with the intention of stealing them—I meant to take them out again as soon as possible—I did not know that there was any thing lost—you said, if I gave up the tickets, and you found the things were not lost, you would forgive me. Witness. No; I said it would be better for her to give the whole history of what she had pawned—she had 30l. a year, coals and candles—her husband is a respectable man. THOMAS WILLIAM GRATTAN. I am servant to Mr. Cottrell, a pawnbroker, in Shoe-lane. I have a piece of carpet, a pair of candlesticks and snuffers and tray, some spoons and other things, pawned by the prisoner at different times—on the 31st of October, the 2nd of December, and at other times—I knew the prisoner—she pawned them in her own name, as living in water-lane—I took in most of these things—I enquired if they were her own property—she said they were her own, several times—she decribed her husband as keeping a house in Water-lane—I considered she kept a lodging-house—I have a great many other things.

Prisoner. I was never asked whose property they were.

THOMAS CALVER . I am assistant to Mr. Beeston, a pawnbroker, in the Strand. I produce a decanter, pawned by the prisoner for 3s. on the 17th of February, in the name of Mary Nurse—she said it was her husband's property, and she kept a house in Water-lane.

Prisoner. I should have had them all back in the course of a few weeks.

GUILTY. Aged 32.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor. Confined One Year.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-774
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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774. JAMES HALL was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of February, 1 wash-hand stand, value 5s., the goods of Henry Argent.

HENRY ARGENT . I live in Long-alley, Worship-street, and am a furniture japanner. I missed a wash-hand stand about the 11th of January—I

received information, and went to Mrs. Parson's shop, in Ball-alley, Long-alley—I found my stand there—this is it—I know it by the painting—I am a painter, and painted it myself—I do not japan many like this—I have not had one of this pattern for a long time—I believe it to be mine—I found nothing else besides the stand—I found the prisoner there afterwards—he does not live there—I asked Mrs. Parson, in the Prisoner's presence, whom she bought the stand of—she said, the prisoner—that was at night when we took him.

MARY ANN PARSON . I bought this stand of the prisoner for 3s. 6d. or 4s—I cannot say which—to the best of my recollection it was on the 12th of February—I had it nearly a month outside my door every day.

Prisoner Q. Since the transaction, have I not been past your shop, and sold you several things? A. Yes; he came to me the next day, and brought the knobs of the drawers—I have seen him pass, but not since the stand was owned.

JAMES MITCHELL (police-constable G 145.) I went to the shop and and took the prisoner and the stand.

Prisoner's Defence. I admit purchasing an article of this kind, at the comer of Sptial-square, Bishopsgate-street, of a man who was standing with it to sell, which is not uncommon. I am a broker's porter, by which I gain a knowledge of goods, which enables me to purchase little things of this description, and make a shilling. I sold it for 3s. 6d. I gave 2s. 6d. for it, Is it not a very improbable case that a man should go and steal an article from one shop and dispose of it at another, within three minutes walk, and that I should go to the same shop and sell things afterwards?


29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-775
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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775. JOHN BAKER was indicted for stealing on the 13th of February, one horse-cloth, value 2s. 6d., the goods of Robert Morris.

ROBERT MORRIS . I live is Kingsland-crescent, and am a great-grocer. On Saturday, the 13th of February, at six o'clock in the morning, I was with my cart in Lamb-street, Spitalfields—I had a horse in my cart—I put a cloth on the horse and left them both in the street—I was about a quarter of an hour away—I came back and the cloth was gone—it was afterwards produced to me by a policeman—this is it—it is a piece of drugget that I use for a horse-cloth—I should not call it a horse-cloth.


29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-776
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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776. HENRY COX was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of February, 1 handkerchief, value 2s., the goods of Richard King, from his person.

RICHARD KING . I live at Smith=square. Westminster. I was walking near St. Clement's church, on the 20th of February, about six o'clock in the evening, and felt a pressure—I turned and saw the prisoner in possession of my handkerchief—I caught him—he ran away—I called, "Stop thief"—he stopped, and turned out his pockets, and said he had no handkerchief—a gentleman came up, and said he saw him drop the handkerchief and gave it to me—he said he would attend but his time would not allow of it—I saw it in the prisoner's hand.

Prisoner. I saw a lad throw it on the ground, and it fell on some bricks near Twinings, the tea warehouse. I took it up, and was going to put in into my pocket—the gentleman said it was his, I threw it at his feet, and said there it was, Witness. I turned and saw him with it in his hand, and he ran away.

CORNELIUS WINTLE (Police-constable F 55.) I was on duty, and saw the prisoner run towards St. Clement's Church—he was stopped, and I took him—the gentleman gave me the handkerchief, and said in the prisoner's hearing, that he had dropped it. NOT GUILTY

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-777
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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777. JAMES PARCELS and JAMES KENNY were indicted for stealing, on the 20th of February, 1 handkerchief, value 3s., the goods of Thomas Peek, from his person.

THOMAS PEEK . I live in the Exchequer-office, Whitehall-yard. I am house-keeper there—at half past six o'clock, on the evening of the 20th of February, I was walking in the Strand, near Adam-street, Adelphi—Goose came and said something to me—I examined my pocket, and my handkerchief was gone—I had seen it sage not more than ten minutes before—this is it, and the one I had seen safe.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. On which side were you? A. At the corner of Adam-street—I was with a friend at Somerset-house, and used my handkerchief there—Goose first came to me—the other person was not with him then—I saw the other officer about three or four minutes after—he was then at the corner of Adam-street—he had followed the prisoner up a court, and he came back with Goose—that court was on the opposite side—I did not see Ford till he came to me at the corner of Adam-street.

ROBERT GOOSE . I live at No.17, Wood-street, Westminster—I have left the police. I was going to Spitalfields with Ford—I saw the two prisoners behind the gentleman—I saw Kenny making free with the gentleman's pocket—putting his hand in—he had only got hold of the pocket when I first saw him—I kept back—he did not see me, I believe—he did not know me—he drew out a handkerchief—I told Ford I would tell the gentleman of it—Ford turned his head, and I went to the gentleman, and told him something—he said he had lost his handkerchief—I said, "They have ran up that court"—I saw them walking up the court—it is a court right opposite Adam-street—I went across the road up the court with Ford, after them—we lost them—I came back again and spoke to the gentleman, in the mean time they returned again—I knew them again—they then followed two other gentleman—Ford was only just before me—the two prisoners came then right across from opposite—Kenny was in the act of laying hold of another gentleman's pocket—they turned and looked me in the face—they were going to make off—I seized Parcels, and Ford laid hold of Kenny—this handkerchief was in Parcel's pocket—the prosecutor stood at the corner of Adam-street—he was present when the handkerchief was found, and he claimed it.

Cross-examined. Q. You were in the police? A. Yes, I was—I resigned on the 14th of August—it was quite a matter of choice—I was not dealt with as I ought to be—there has never been a charge made against me in my life—I never was charged with stealing a donkey—I have been told so by you—I have been an informer for two months—I bad money before that, and spent it was with Mr. Waterton's omnibes before I was an informer, as conductor—and I think I began in September—I have been nothing else—Ford is a man that works along with me—he has been a policeman—he was discharged for being insolent to the Commissioners—if I see a robbery I take a person—this is the first time I have put my hand on any body since I was in the police—cannot tell whether I have given one hundred informations, or two hundred—I have them down in a book—we were not walking after Mr. Peek—we

met him—I saw Kenny put his hand into his pocket—I did not take them directly—I spoke to the prosecutor first, because I have taken person and then the prosecutors did not appear, and I have been hauled over the coals—they crossed the road directly, so that I could not lay bold of them and call to Mr. Peek—I cannot run very fast.

JURY. Q. You are certain it was the prisoner Kenny who look the handkerchief? A. Yes—I saw Parcels in company with him—they went up the court—I am certain that they were the two persons that I saw afterwards.

WILLIAM FORD . I was with the last witness in the Strand, just by Adam-street—Goose said, "Those lads are after that gentleman"—I looked round, and saw Kenny had hold of the gentleman's pocket, with his left hand, and his right hand under the pocket—I saw him draw something—he gave it to the other, and they both ran across the street, towards the court—I ran after them, but the court being dark, I lost them—we came back again, Goose was close to me—Goose said he dare say they would come back—we stood still, and spoke to Mr. Peek—it was not half a minute before both the prisoners came back, across the road, in the came direction—they got on the pavement, and Kenny got hold of another gentleman's pocket at that time—whether parcels spoke to him or touched him I do not know, but they made an attempt to go down one of the turnings—I took Kenny, and said. "Where is that handkerchief?"—he said, "I have not got it"—and Goose gave me parcels—I said to him, "Where is that handkerchief you had of the gentleman?"—he took it out of the flap of his breeches, and dropped it on the ground. Cross-examined. Q. Are you quite sure that you saw Parcels draw this out from his flap? A. Yes—Mr. Peek must have seen that too—when they came back from the court they crossed the road, and went five or six yards to the right, and we followed them—I was five or six yards off when I saw Kenny—I have been a common informer for five months—I do not know any thing about Goose—they told me in the police that I did not conduct myself right about a young woman, and I resigned.

THOMAS PEEK re-examined. Q. Did you see this handkerchief produced from the person of the prisoner parcels, as the last witness has stated? A. Yes, I did—this is my handkerchief.

THOMAS HARD (police-constable F 140.) I saw one of the prisoners give this handkerchief to Ford—I took it and the prisoner.

Parcels's Defence. I saw the handkerchief lying down by the side of a shop—I took it, and went on to the Adelphi afterwards—the man caught me, and took me to the gentleman—I said, "I this your handkerchief?" he said, "Yes"—I gave it him.

Kenny's Defence. I had been to take a pair of shoes home to No.3, Crown-court, and was going home—I had not seen this prisoner before—I was fifteen yards off him—I worked for a man in Tower-street, and then he went down to Shropshire—I got a few jobs on my own account.


KENNY— GUILTY . Aged 17.

Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-778
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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778. ALEXANDER KENNEDY was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of January, 1 square, value 2s., the goods of William McCulloch; and 1 plane, value 2s. the goods of Robert Eastoe.

WILLIAM MCCULLOCH . The prisoner was employed by me as a journey. man at my workshop, No, 1, Duck-lane, Edward-street, Soho—he came to me on the 6th of February—I had a square about the middle of December, which was the last time I used it—I did not miss it, till I found it at Mr. Aldow's, a pawnbroker—I then found it was gone from my chest—this is it.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Was the prisoner's brother employed by you? A. Yes—the 6th of January was the first time that they brought their tools to work as journeymen—the prisoner's brother worked before that—the prisoner never worked for me before the 6th of January—that I swear—they had been in the habit of calling on me for the last three months—they have asked for work, I told them I would give it them—they have come and helped me to do little things for nothing—I knew them—I have lent them tools at home, and they returned them—I was not always present when they took them—they took them from the benches—I gave orders to Robert Eastoe—he has been with me eighteen months.

Q. How often did these young men work for you before the 6th of January, without any payment? A. I think about three times—the two were together, but they did not work together—the eldest worked—it was not the prisoner—I do not think the prisoner worked—he has been there in the place—they have both been in the habit of calling for some months—if you ask a question to one, both answered it—if you gave one any thing to do, they would both be at it—I frequency told them I should give one of them a job, which they liked—they promised to come one day, but did not—I once had a job in a hurry, and the eldest came and worked about six hours—I did not see him again for some time—they borrowed money of me, and were in my debt 5l. 6s.—William had assisted in making cornices—I do not know that they worked at home—William borrowed my tools twice—he was indicted, but the bill was thrown out.

JURY. Q. Had the prisoner authority to borrow tools from your shop without your knowledge? A. No.

COURT. Q. Did you lend him tools except on these two occasions? A. No—it was two chisels, or something of that sort—I never lent him a square or plane—he had no authority to pawn them.

ROBERT EASTOE . I worked with Mr. M'Culloch, and am a cabinet-maker—in January or December last, I had several planes—this is one of them—I saw it last about the 18th or 19th of January—I have since missed it—I did not lend it to the prisoner at any time.

Cross-examined. Q. Was the young man in the habit of coming to work after the 15th of January? A. He did not attend regularly, only two or three days in a week—that was before the 15th of January, and after it—I cannot say when they first came—William did not work any cornices before the 6th of Jannary—there were no gothic columns at my masters before the 6th of January, not till after—nor any cornices to my knowledge that the men used to work on—I am sure of that—I saw the prisoner on the premises several times before the 6th of January—Mr. M'Culloch gave them no permission to take tools before the 6th of January—neither chisels, nor any thing else—there was no work given out to them to my knowledge—there are two or three other workmen besides me—I have had no quarrel with the prisoner.

JURY Q. Could the prisoner have worked there for several hours without your knowing it? A. Not unless I was absent from the shop—I

was not absent many hours—they could not work four or five hours without my knowing it.

JAMES ASHLEY . I am in the service of Mr. Aldous, a pawnbroker. I produce this square and plane—they were pledged at our shop—the square on the 23rd of January, by the prisoner or his brother, and the plane was pledged there also.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you take in the square? A. No; I took in the plane—I cannot say whether it was the prisoner or his brother that pawned it—they were almost always together—I knew them as customers—they have a great many tools belonging to themselves.

GREGORY COLE DUDLEY (police-constable C6.) I took the prisoner and searched him, and found two duplicates, which correspond with these duplicates for the square and plane.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you ask him where he got the duplicates? A. He said they were his own property—his brother William was taken up at the time.

Prisoner's Defence. These tickets were found on me—I do not know any thing of them.

(David Cummings, a carpenter, of Norfolk-street, Middlesex-street, gave the prisoner a good character.) GUILTY. Aged 28.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury and Prosecutor.— Confined Two Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-779
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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779. THOMAS CURRY was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of February, 1 bedstead, value 6s., the goods of Susan Lapham.

SUSAN LAPHAM . I live in Milton-street, Cripplegate, and am a window. I keep a broker's shop—on the 5th of February I had a bedstead outside my door—I missed it, and saw it the next day at Mr. Nurthen's—is it.

SUSANNAH NURTHEN . I am the wife of Richard Nurthen, of No. 2, Play-house-yard. I keep a broker's shop—I bought this bedstead of the prisoner for 4s. 6d., on the 5th February, about one o'clock.

ROBERT THACKERY (police-constable G 75.) I went to the house of the last witness and took the bedstead, and got the prisoner.

Prisoner. It was distress that drove me to do it—I have a wife and a family of children.

GUILTY * Aged 33.— Confined Three Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-780
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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780. THOMAS BEARDMORE was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of November, 1 chair, value 20s., the goods of William Meek Tillett.

WILLIAM MEEK TILLETT . I live in Old-street-road, and am a furniture broker. The prisoner came to my shop on the 26th of November—he stated that he wanted a pattern chair to show a gentleman in the city—I lent him chair—he was to return the next morning, and fetch the other chairs—he absconded—I saw him on the 2nd of February, at the corner of Milion-street, and asked him where my chair was—he said he was very sorry, but he had pawned it—he produced the duplicate, and said he did it out of distress.

JOHN BOARDS . I am a pawnbroker, and live in Shoreditch, I produce a chair, pawned on the 26th of November, by a person giving his name George Cooper Leonard, as his own property.

GEORGE AVERY (police-constable G 5.) The prisoner gave me this duplicate, and it corresponds with the one the chair.

(The prisoner put in a written defence, stating that he had pledged the chair under the pressure of distress, but with the intention of returning it. Charles Harrison, of Judd-street, gave him a good character.) GUILTY. Aged 27—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor . Confined Two Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-781
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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781. GEORGE PERRY was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of Febrauary, 1 umbrella, value 2s.; 1 handkerchief, value 2s.; and 2 printed books, value 2s.; the goods of John Phillips; and that he had been before convicted of felony.

JOHN PHILLIPS I live in Great Chapel-street, Westminister, and an a broker. The prisoner was my shopman—I took him from a neighbour, by whom he was discharged for stealing a penny—I thought it was trifling, and looked ever it—I missed a handkerchief on the 27th of February—I went to his lodging, and found an umbrella and two printed books, a rule, some buttons, and other things, which were mine—the girl, who was a fellow-servant, of his, told me he lodged there—I found them in a house in the New-cut, Tothill-street, Westminister—I cannot tell the number—I charged him with stealing the handkerchief—he said he had pawned it—I never saw him at the lodgings I went to—I knew none of the boxes that were there to be his, nor any of the articles that were in them.

WILLIAM STEBBINGS I am shopman to Mr. Harlow, a pawnbroker, of York-street. I have a handkerchief pledged by the prisoner in the name of George Taylor.

Prisoner. I did take that, but not the other things. WILLIAM ARNANDELL (police-constable B.86.) I took the prisoner for stealing the handkerchief, and these other things. He entreated Mr. Phillips to forgive him or pawning the handkerchief—I searched him and found a shilling, which he said he got for the handkerchief—I asked the prisoner what he did with the duplicate—he said he had torn it up.

RICHARD MOORE (police constable B18.) I produce the certificate of the prisoner's former conviction for felony, which I got from Clerkenwell—the prisoner is the person (read).

GUILTY . Aged 16— Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-782
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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782. EMMA GROVES and HARRIET BROWN were indicted for stealing, on the 27th of January, 1 counterpane, value 7s., the goods of James Weller.

JAMES WELLER I live in Salisbury-street, Lisson-grove. Brown took a lodging at my house sometime in January—Groves came these a few days afterwards, and lodged there also—I missed this counterpanes-Groves was charged with it, and said it was pawned, and she would make it all right—they had not left my place till they were taken.

THOMAS TRINGAM (police-constable F 137.) I went to Grove's lodgings. she gave me thirty-eight duplicates, and one was of the counterpane—she pointed out that ticket by itself—she said, "That is the ticket of the counterpane"—Brown was not present then; but I said to them at the station-house, "You have done something for your selves by stealing the counterpane, among other things"—Brown said, they would soon be set right, could they get over this.

RICHARD WEYLETT I am shopman to a pawnbroker at Lisson-grove.

This counterpane was pledged in the name of Harriet Brown, with a young man who is not living with us now.

Groves. We did it in distress.

GROVES— GUILTY . aged 17.


29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-783
VerdictsGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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783. HARRIET BROWN was indicted for stealing, on the 28th of January, 2 sheets, value 14s.; 2 pillows-cases, value 2s.; 1 table-cloth, value 3s.; 1 table-napkin, value 1s.; 2 shifts, value 7s.; 1 night-gown, value 3s.; 1 petticoat, value 4s.; 2 stockings, value 6d.; 1 bag, value 6d.; 1 towel, value 9d.; the goods of John Wakefield Smith: and EMMA GROVES For Feloniously receiving the same, well knowing them to have been stolen, against the statue, &c.—2nd COUNT For receiving them of an evil disposed person.

FANNY SMITH I am the wife of John Wakefield Smith, who lives at No.109, Star-street, Paddington, and is a butcher—I took the linen stated in the indictment to Mr. Froom's to mangle—there was a pair of pillowcases, a napkin, a night-gown, and a pair of stockings found—these are part of them—the others I have not seen since.

JOHN FROOMS I live at No.14, Star-street, Paddington. My wife takes in mangling—the prosecutrix brought a lot of clothes to be mangled on the 28th January—I took them in—the prisoner Brown came in the evening between five and six o'clock, and asked me whether her mangling was done—I said, "Whose?"—she said, "No.109"—my wife said, "It is just done"—she said, "I believe it is 2d."—I said, "Yes"—she paid the 2d., and took them away—Brown said, before the Magistrate, that she had fetched it, but the other told her to fetch it.

Brown. He said he did not know the person that came, but it was a person in a cloak. Witness. I said I did not know the person exactly, but it was a person in a cloak; and then she said it was her, but the other had sent her—I believe she is the person who fetched it.

MATILDA BAGULEY I assist in mangling at Mrs. Froom's. On the 28th of January, in the afternoon, I saw Brown come—she asked my father if the mangling was done—he said, "Where from?"—she said, "109, star-street"—my mother put the things on the table—she said the 3d. and took it away.

Brown. They both said that they did not know the person: that it was a young person like me, with a straw bonnet and black ribbon—Witness. I did not see her face.

THOMAS TRINGHAM (police-constable F 137.) I took Groves into custody. At the station-house they had a quarrel, in which they implicated each other—Groves said to Brown, "You have been to the baker's in William-street, and fetched the pudding away"—Brown made no answer to that—Groves then said, "You went to several other bakers; and you fetched the linen away from Star-street"—Brown made no answer—I went to where they said they lodged, and Groves went with us, and produced the tickets and some of the linen—I then took them both to the station-house, and went to star-street and asked if they had lost linen.

WILLIAM TAYLOR I am a pawnbroker. I took in this night-gown of the prisoner Groves on the 5th February—they both came together; but I cannot be so positive about Brown, as she stood farthest from me.

Brown I am innocent of the mangling, but the counterpane we acknowledge to.

Groves. The pawnbroker stated that he did not know which offered it to pledge.

WILLIAM TAYLOR . The two prisoners came in together, and Groves pawned it.

BROWN— GUILTY . Aged 16.


Confined Six Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-784
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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784. SARAH CROW was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of January, 1 brass powder-folder, value 15s., the goods of Joseph Tennison.

JOSEPH TENNISON . I am a surgeon, and live in Broughton-place, Hackney-road. On Wednesday, the 13th of January, the prisoner came to my house, complaining of a rheumatic affection in one of her thumbs—I looked, and said I would attend to it—she said she would call in half an hour—soon after she was gone I missed this brass powder-folder—she never came again.

Prisoner. That gentleman said he did not know the day of the month, but he believed he had seen me once. Witness. Since that I have referred to my book: a particular circumstance occurred, and I can swear to the day—I have not the least doubt she is the person; and with respect to the swelling of her thumb. I see now one of her thumbs is swelled.

EDMUND JULIUS SUTTON . I am shopman to Mr. Miller, a pawnbroker, of the Kingsland-road. This powder-folder was pledged by the prisoner for 3s. on the 13th of January—I am positive she is the person—she came again on the 29th, and then I stopped her—she came to get an affidavit of a cloak she pawned at the same time as she pawned this—I am positive she is the person.

Prisoner. When I went to your house on the 29th, I asked you for an affidavit of a cloak—you asked, "What name?"—I said I did not know whether it was Webb or Jordan; because I lent it to a person of the name of Webb. Witness. She said so, but I had sent for an officer before that.

HENRY SMITH (police-constable H143.) I took the prisoner on the 29th of February, for having pawned the powder-folder. I searched her and found several duplicates on her in the name of Jarvis, which is the name she pawned them in.

Prisoner. The woman who was with me is confined—her name is Briscoe—she lives near Walworth turnpike—I was in bed on the day it was pawned.

GUILTY. Aged 64.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor . Confined Six Months.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-785
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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785. WILLIAM FORD was indicted for stealing, on the 12th February, 1 snuff-box, value 2d., the goods of William Armstrong; and 1 jacket, value 20s., the goods of Hannah Phillips.

HANNAH PHILLIPS . I am a widow, and live in Phoebe-place, Poplar. The prisoner came to me on the 12th of February—I did not know him before—he said he was very much distressed for a lodging—I took him to, and he got me two notes, a month's advance note, and a month's note from the ship Lady Clark, bound to Jamaica—I went that day to buy tea and coffee and tobacco, for the prisoner to go to sea—the amount of the hill was upwards of 5l.—he brought me the two notes from the ship: a cash note, and a month note on Mr. Thompson, I believe, in Biliter-square—I did not go to get these notes changed—while I was out I lost a jacket and snuff-box—these are the things—I can swear to that jacket—I had it in any my possession ten months—this is the snuff-box—it is

my daughter's—she is 19 years old—her husband's name is William Armstrong—he is at sea.

Prisoner. The jacket she sold me for a sovereign—I was to pay her when I came back from Jamaica, but I spent my money, and went to go to the Hull steamer, but I was taken—she brought the jacket down for me to try on—I tried it and it fitted me. Witness. No, I never did; you bought me into debt 5l., and robbed me.

JURY. Q. You made no bargain with him about that jacket? A. No, never; it w as brought down to brush—he stole two duplicates out of a letter which belong to a young man at sea.

MARGARET PHILLIPS . This snuff-box belongs to my sister's husband—his name is Armstrong—the prisoner stole it out of my box, which stood under the table.

JOHN JOSEPH SPELLER WEAR . I live in Queen-street, Ratcliffe. The prisoner offered me a duplicate of a watch, and I gave him 4s. for it—I redeemed it, and pawned it again—he showed me another duplicate of a suit of clothes, but I did not buy that.

HANNAH PHILLIPS re-examined. This duplicate is for the watch—it has been taken out and pledged again for 5s. more—he had the things he has on now from my getting them.

Prisoner. She sold me the jacket: that I can swear.

GUILTY . Aged 23.— Transported for seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-786
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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786. MARY ANN BRYANT was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of February, 4 half-crowns, 39 shillings, and 8 sixpences, the monies of Joseph Redden, her master.

JOSEPH REDDEN . I live at No. 133. High-street, Shoreditch, and am a grocer. The prisoner came to me on the 28th of January—she was engaged for a fortnight the 8th of February I missed 2l. 9s. and 2l. 4s. in silver, and 5s. in copper, out of the shop—I counted it on the 1st of February, and then it was all right—on the 8th I missed it—I had been to the cash-box several times, but I balance my cash once a week—I found a deficiency—I enter every day what I take in gold, and silver, and copper. Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. When did she leave your service? A. On Saturday night, the 13th of February; she was to return for her clothes on the following Monday, and to be paid her wages, and she came—I have never had any truoble with my servants before—I had one named Betsy Washbrook—while she was there I said I could not make my cash balance—I do not recollect that I ever told her that I missed some money—I might—I did not charge her with it—it was the common topic of conversation in the house that I could not make my cash balance—I was 3l. deficient—it was about three months ago I might have told Betsy Washbrook that I had missed some money during her service—I did not say I had missed any money—I might say I could not make my cash balance—I never suspected here of taking it—I believe her an honest girl—after she left she came for her boxes, and enquired if I had found my money—I told her I had—it was paid away for a bed—I might have said that my wife had bought a wash-hand-stand, and that instead of being deficient, I had an overplus of 5s.—I did not say I should not have charged the prisoner with this robbery, except that she had got a different cloak to what she used to wear—I said my suspicions would not have been excited had she not come in a different dress—I do not know that she had a cloak on when she came—she asked my wife's permission to wear a necklace.

JURY. Q. Had your wife access to the cash-box? A. Yes; if she had spent money, I should not have suspected I had been robbed—I should have asked her—in the individual instance named, I omitted to put the cash down. NOT GUILTY

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-787
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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787. MARY ANN BRYANT was again indicted for stealing, on the 8th of February, 10 half-crowns, 8 shillings, 6 sixpences, and 5s. 6d. in copper, the monies of Joseph Redden, her master.

JOSEPH REDDEN . On the 8th of February I missed this cash, 2l. 9s.—I fancied I had not entered the cash in my payments, and in order to be more particular, I put the different days receipts in different places, in a recess—one of them was 2l. 12s. 6d. in silver—it was in a cupboard, which has no door to it—it was wrapt in a piece of sugar paper—I went up-stairs and forgot to take it to my cash-box—I did not think of it again till Monday morning, the 15th, when I went to balance, and found a deficiency of 2l. 12s. 6d.—I thought there must be something wrong, and I thought it prudent to go to the police-station—the girl was to come for her wagen—she came; and on account of her altered appearance, I suspected her more—she brought a doll and a couple of tarts for my children, and had on a new dress: a new shawl, a new apron, and something very pretty round her neck—I sent for the police sergeant, and he asked her "Where did you get the last money from?"—she said, "I got 6d. from my mistress to buy a comb"—he asked if she received any other money?—she said, 1s. 3d. from her father's master for shoe-binding, but no other money—he said, "Where did you get the money to buy that doll?"—she said, her mother gave it her, and she had had the dress some time—we then went over to Bermondsey-street.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Had you known the girl and her family? A. Yes, for eight years—her father is living in Bermondsey-street—he is a shoemaker—she had been in service before she came to me—I believe she left our service on the 13th of February—it was on the Thursday in that week I put the silver into the sugar paper—I did not send her on Saturday the 13th into my back room for the cash-box—I might have sent her on the morning she left—she brought down 6d., which she found in my bed—it had fallen from my waistcoat-pocket; but I should have missed it—she did not bring the cash-box at the same time—she might have brought it down in the morning—I put this cash into the cupboard on Thursday night.

JURY. Q. Had you discovered the loss on the 13th of February? A. I had of the 2l. 9s.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. You say you discovered your account would not agree on the 8th of February, and you missed 2l. 9s.: from that date you continued to take the receipts of the day, and place them separetely in the cash-box till the Thursday? A. Yes; on the Thursdays the receipts were 2l. 12s. 6d.—I put the Friday's into the cash-box—I put in Saturday's receipts, and never thought of the Thursday's—I have two other persons besides this girl who go in where this money was, to have their meals—they might have taken it—I did not put the cash-box in the cupboard with the money: it was my practice to keep that in the bed-room—I did not go there on the day after I put the money there in the paper—I will not swear I did not go on Friday—I might go to get a glass or tea-cup—I thought I had taken the cash-box up—I never thought about it—I found 2l. 12s. 6d. wrong then—I went to the cupboard immediately.

JURY. Q. Had you been there two or three times? A. I flung it carelessly in, and went into the yard and forgot it—I thought I had taken it up—I might say wrong in saying I did not think of it—I do not think I thought of it till the Monday morning—I had discharged a shopman, who left me on the Tuesday.

MARY ANN ALLEN . I live at No. 80, Curtain-road. The prisoner bought three gowns and a cloak at my mother's—she paid 13s. for one; 9s. for another; 6s. 6d. for another; and 16s. for the black silk, making in all 2l. 4s. 6d.—she put them by, one day in February, and came for them on the 13th of February—she had bought them about three days before that—she paid for them in silver; bit I do not know what silver—she had it in some whitey-brown sugar paper.

JURY. Q. How much was paid when they were laid by? A. I think it was 16s.—I do not know the day—she paid the remainder on the 13th of February.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you seen her before? A. No; only when she came to purchase these goods—there was not a fortnight between the first and second time of her coming—I would not swear that I had never seen her before—I never stated that I was not sure she was the person who came, because she is the person—I will not say that I did not say she was not the person—she paid me 13s. off one, and 2s. off another—it was a mistake when I said she paid 16s.—I did not receive a sovereign and give 4s.—I did not receive the money at all—I saw it—I did not look particularly at it, we had so many persons there—I will not swear that it was not all in sixpences—I talked to Mr. Redden about it on Thursday—he did not tell me it was in a sugar paper, that I recollect—I said it was a sugar paper—I do not know why I called it a sugar paper—I did not call it so before the Magistrate—on Saturday she paid the rest of the money; and I think on Monday Mr. Redden came—I cannot say exactly—I received some money on the 13th of February—I did not receive it—I did not take it up—she put it on our table in the back parlour—I counted it—I do not recollect what she paid—it was 16s. for the shawl; 6s. 6d. for the cotton dress; 9s. for the other dress—there was no gold.

COURT. Q. You told me first that you thought this partial payment was about three days before the 13th of February; but since then you have told Mr. Clarkson you would not swear it was not a fortnight: how long do you think it was between the first payment and the second? A. I do not think it was more than three or four days: I know it was not.

GEORGE AVERY (police-sergeant G 5.) I was called into Mr. Redden's, on Monday the 15th of February, and saw the prisoner. I said to Mr. Redden, "I understand you have been robbed; do you suspect any one?"—he said yes, he suspected the servant girl—Mrs. Redden said, "She brought a doll to make a present to my child"—I asked her where she got the money—she said her mother gave her 1s. 3d. that morning to buy it—I asked her where she got the new gown, shawl, and apron which she was wearing—she said she had had them a long time, but did not think it necessary to bring them to Mr. Redden's, having to stay but a fortnight—I asked where she lived before—she said with a French lady, about twelve months before; and she had lived at home since—I asked if she earned any money—she said yes; 1s. 3d. of her father's master for shoe-binding, and that she laid it out in stockings; and a side and back comb she brought for 6d., which she borrowed of her mother.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you tell her she was charged on suspicion of

felony, and was not bound to answer these questions? A. I did—her master charged her—I told her so in her master's presence, when her master said she was charged with felony—I said, "You need not answer without you choose"—I believe that is in my deposition—I am not certain I said so to the Magistrate—the depositions were read over to me before I signed them—it was an oversight of mine if that is not in them; it was not intentional at any rate—I told her she might choose whether she would answer any question—Mr. Redden did not tell me he should not have suspected her, if she had not had a different cloak and a different dress.

ANN SULLIVAN . I live in Bermondsey—street. On Sunday the 14th, the prisoner came to me—she was dressed in a brown silk gown, a silk cloak, and an apron—she told me she had them of her mistress—I did not ask her where she got them—her mother came in that morning, and said she had some beautiful thing of her mistress; and the girl came in and said she had these things of her mistress; she slept with me on Sunday night, and in going away she left this silk gown and cloak in my possession, and told me to keep them for her, in case of her father and mother pledging them. Cross-examined. Q. Then these things were not found on her, but in your house? A. No; I received a little information about them is the course of the day, and I conveyed the things to her father—I am a widow; in fact my husband is gone abroad, but I have not seen him since I have been married—I did not become acquainted with Mr. Redden before this case—I have been a servant—I was last in service about six months ago, and was obliged to leave through illness; it was in Tulse Hill, Brixton: my wages were 14 guineas a-year—I had saved a good deal of money.

Q. Upon your solemn oath, is your husband one hundred yards from this place? A. I suppose not; the convict Sullivan is my husband.

COURT. Q. What do you mean by saying you have never seen your husband since you were married? A. I have not seen him.

MR. CLARKSON to GEORGE AVERY. Q. Upon your oath did you not know that that woman was the wife of that convict? A. I did—she stated that she was married, but that she never saw her husband since three days after she was married.

LAWRENCE PEARSON . I believe I sold a necklace to the prisoner on the 4th of February.

MARY ANN ALLEN re-examined. Q. What gown, shawl, and apron were you speaking of? A. These.

MR. CLARKSON Q. Was the silk made up as a dress? A. Yes.

NOT GUILTY Sixth Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-787a
VerdictsGuilty > pleaded guilty; Not Guilty > unknown

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787. THOMAS FOWLE was indicted for embezzlement; and THOMAS WACKETT for feloniously receiving, harbouring, and maintaining the said Thomas Fowle, well knowing him to have committed the felony aforesaid, against the statute; to which

THOMAS FOWLE pleaded GUILTY . Confined Six Days.

THOMAS ASHWELL . I live at No. 20, Shoe—lane. Thomas Fowle was an errand—boy of mine—he is 19 years of age—on the 13th of February I sent hun to get change for twenty—three sovereigns, about four o'clock in the afternoon he never returned.

JOSEPH STANNARD . I am a policeman. About two o'clock in the morning

of the 14th, February, I saw a cab standing at the door of No.16, Windmill—street, Finsbury—square, at Mr. Watkin's eating—house—in had been standing there nearly an hour—I went into the house and inquired who it belonged to—the prisoner got up and said it belonged to hum—I said it had been there long enough; it was time to go off with it—Fowle stood by his side; and the prisoner asked him for the money for the reckoning, and he would go directly—Fowle gave the prisoner two half—crown pieces—he said that was not enough—he gave him two more half—crowns—he told him that was not enough—he gave him two shillings move, making any 12s.—Wackett then paid the bill—Fowle then asked him if he wanted any more money—he said he should want some more when he went out—I asked Wackett whether he know this lad—he said yes, it was his brother, and he was going to take him home—I asked him where he live—he said, in the City—I asked him how he came to be there—he said they had been out for a lark—I asked him how this lad came by so much money, and said I should take him to the station—house—he called on Fowle to know if he was his brother—he said, "Yes, you are my brother"—when we got out, Fowle put his hands into his pockets, and asked Wackett if he wanted any more money—I told him I should take him to the station—house—I searched Fowle, and found 20l. 11s. 2d. on him—he then said he was not his brother, and he had not seen him before that night.

ROBERT WATKINSON . I am an eating—house keeper. About an hour after midnight, on the 14th of February, the prisoners came to my house, and had two plates of boiled beef—Fowle gave the money to Wackett, and he gave it to me.

THOMAS MALIN . About two o'clock, on the 14th of February, I went with my brother officer to take the prisoner—he became very violent, and whipped his house and me; I took the reins and whip from him—he was drunk.


29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-788
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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788. WILLIAM AYTON was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of March, 1 handkerchief, value 3s.; the goods of Charles Henry Hodgson, from his person.

CHARLES HENRY HODGSON . I am a merchant's Clerk. I was in Bishopsgate—street, on the 1st of March, about five o'clock—I felt, all on a sudden, that my pocket was considerably lightened—I turned round, and saw the prisoner doubling something in his hand; but I did not see what—I missed my handkerchief—I laid hold of the prisoner, and taxed him with stealing it—he stoutly denied it—I stoutly asserted that he had it—I was he this time sunounded by the prisoner and three others—the prisoner still denied that he had taken my handkerchief, or know any thing about it—one of his companions, who saw I was determined not to let him go, said, "Jack, you had better give the gentleman his handkerchief, you have got it"—the prisoner still did not seem to like to give it up, and one of his companions took it from the prisoner's waistcoat or trowsers, and gave it to me—this is it—I gave him into custody.

JURY. Q. Is it marked? A. I am not aware that it is—I had it given me to about four months back.

COURT. Q. You had a handkerchief of that sort about you? A. Yes, exactly like this.

EDWARD KIRBY DARLINGTON . I am an officer. I took the prisoner,

GUILTY .* Aged 15.— Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-789
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty; Guilty > unknown

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789. WILLIAM HORSEMAN and WALTER WELLS were indicted for stealing, on the 19th of February, 7 tabacco-pouches, value 2s., the goods of Abraham Barnett; to which

William Horseman pleaded GUILTY . Aged 12.

HENRY WEBB . I know Mr. Abraham Barnett's shop, in High-street, Shadwell. I saw the prisoner Wells, with Horseman, loitering about on the 19th of February, and looking in at the window—Horseman put his hand into the window, and took out one or two tobacco-pouches; and then Wells put his arm in, and took some more—I then made over to them, and caught Horseman putting his hand in again—Wells ran away—I could not lay hold of him—I saw him again the same evening, when they were taken to the Thames Police—I am sure the prisoner is the boy.

JAMES MANN (police-constable K 239.) I have four tobacco-pouches, which I got from Horseman.

SARAH PRESSLEY . I am daughter-in-law of Mr. Abraham Barnett. I believe these to be his property, but we could not swear to them—we could not miss them.

SAMUEL PERKINS . I am a policeman. I have a certificate of Wells's former conviction for felony—he is the boy(read).

WELLS— GUILTY . Aged 9.—Both Transported for Seven Years.

29th February 1836
Reference Numbert18360229-790
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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were indicted for stealing, on the 11th of February, 8 pairs of stocking, value 8s.; 6 pairs of braces, value 3s.; 2 bells, value 2s.; 2 handkerchiefs, value 2s.; and 1 pair of gloves, value 6d.; the goods of Benjamin Whitcombe .

BENJAMIN WHITCOMBE . I deal in earthenware and other goods. On the 11th of February I came up from Woolwich and went into the Rose and Crown, Wentworth-street, Whitechapel, about four o'clock in the afternoon—there were about five persons in the tap-room—I was there all the evening—I took a basket and bundle with me, and laid it on the tap-room table—the bundle contained the property stated in the indictment—the prisoners came in together in the course of the evening—Dixon asked me to drink with him, and I did—he was a stranger to me—we remained there the latest—all the other people were gone, and my bundle was safe in the basket as when I put it there—the prisoners went away about twelve o'clock—immediately after they were gone I missed the bundle—no one could have taken it but them—no others were there but them, the landlord, and myself—about three o'clock in the morning the policeman brought me my bundle, and the handkerchief had been changed