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2nd February 1835
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Taken in Short-hand,








On the King's Commission of the Peace,



The City of London,





Before the Right Honourable HENRY WINCHESTER, LORD MAYOR of the City of London; Sir John Vaughan, one of His Majesty's Justices of the Court of Common Pleas; Sir John Patteson, Knt., one of the Justices of His Majesty's Court of King's Bench; John Ansley, Esq.; George Scholey, Esq.; John Atkins, Esq.; Sir William Heygate, Bart; William Venables, Esq., Aldermen of the said City of London; the Honourable Charles Ewan Law, Recorder of the said City; Thomas Kelly, Esq; Samuel Wilson, Esq.; Sir Chapman Marshall, Knt; and John Pirie, Esq., Aldermen of the said City; John Mirehouse, Esq., Common Sergeant of the said City; and William St. Julien Arabin, Sergeant at Law; His Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.


First Jury.

Joseph Marriot

William Eldershaw

James Faithful

John Faint

Thomas Francis Atkins

William Druce

John Green

James Godsell

Allan Stewart

William Forster

John William Adams

Courtney Sage

Second Jury.

Anthony Gallilee

William Henry Barnard

William Barber

William Patrick Grey

James Reede

Joseph Goddard

Henry Evans

William Cooper

Thomas Gronner

John Gill

Thomas Markins

John Hellingford

Third Jury.

John Fletcher

Richard William Fairman

William Greatorex

Benjamin Harber

James Turnbul Edgard

George Field

William Green

George Goddard

John Forster

Richard Frost

John Boswell

Charles Forder

Fourth Jury.

John Fitzpatrick

Francis Field

John Nicholson Gibbins

John Gilbert

George Wallis

Simeon Cracknell

George Tighe

Henry Free

John Morton

Richard Green

James Franks

James Barkwith

Fifth Jury.

David Freeman

Richard Adams

William Griggs

John Power Royston

Hugh Evans

William Gilbert

James Archibald Foster

Richard Adams

Edmund Fry

Isaac Combers

Benjamin Andrews

Richard Brand

Sixth Jury.

James Doyle

William Earnshaw

Daniel Hyde

John Evans

Matthew Errington

Samuel Eyland

James Parkin Prior

Stephen Grange

Richard Batchelor

Orlando Ball

James Girado

Edward Dyer




A star (*) denotes that the prisoner has been previously in custody—An obelisk (†), that the prisoner is known to be the associate of bad characters.


Third Jury, before Mr. Justice Vaughan.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-472
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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472. ISABELLA HOPES was indicted for that she on the 6th of November, at Edmonton, Middlesex, unlawfully, maliciously, and feloniously did administer to, and cause to be taken by Elizabeth Cambridge, certain poison, to wit, one drachm of white arsenic, the same being a deadly poison, with intent feloniously, wilfully, and of her malice aforethought, to kill and murder her, against the Statute.

2nd COUNT, calling that which was administered "a certain destructive thing."

MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

ELIZABETH CAMBRIDGE . I carry on the business of a market-gardener at Tottenham, Middlesex. The prisoner was in my service in November last. On the 5th of November I had lost 3l. 10s.; I had lost money before, but did not distrust the prisoner—I cannot exactly say how much I lost altogether—in consequence of suspicion, I examined her clothes after she was gone to bed, between ten and eleven o'clock on the 5th of November—(we had no regular agreement for any wages)—I found £7 or £8 in her pocket—the money was in sovereigns and half-sovereigns, and there was some silver—she was asleep—I awoke her, and told her I felt very uncomfortable, that I missed the money, and I said, "There is only you and your brother in my house"—(his name is Walker, he is a half-brother)—she said, "I hope you do not distrust me, Mrs. Cambridge"—my answer was there was only her and her brother in the house—I said, "Do you think your brother's key opens my box?"—she said, "I do not know, his key is in the box, and you can try it"—I did so, and it would not fit it—I told her I was deficient in my payments; I was going to take the money to London with me next morning, and did not know what I should do for want of it, and asked if she had any she could lend me—she said, "How much do you want?"—I said, "Three or four sovereigns"—I had not at that time told her I had discovered the money in her pocket—I asked her if I should hand her pocket to her—she said yes, if I pleased—I handed her her pocket—she took out a purse, and wished to give me what I had asked for, but she wished to keep the remainder, as I thought, out of my sight; it appeared so—she gave me four sovereigns—I save she had more, and said to her, "It is well for you, Isabella, that you have got more money than you knew of; I am

afraid this is all my money which I have lost at different times"—she said, "It is, Mrs. Cambridge, I am sorry for it, but it is your money: if you will promise you will never tell any one of it, I will never repeat the offence again"—she bore a most excellent character before, and I told her I would forgive her, I never would tell any body of it, nor would I ever tell her herself of it, provided she never would repeat the offence again—the money was restored to me, and there the matter ended—I left my house next morning (the 6th) between one and two o'clock, and went to Covent-garden—I left her in bed.

Q. Before you left the house, had you any conversation with her, or any intimation, from which you could collect that it was her intention to leave you? A. None whatever—I used to keep the money which I lost in a small box, which was locked inside a larger box, which stood in my bed-room—I kept my tea in a canister on the chimney-piece in the kitchen—she knew I kept it there—I always kept it there—it was unlocked—I had taken tea out of that canister on the 5th—I had bought the tea on Tuesday, the 4th—I had not felt any inconvenience or sickness after taking tea on the 5th—I returned to my house about one o'clock in the afternoon of the 6th—the prisoner was then gone—I took tea about six o'clock that afternoon—as near as I can say, we commenced taking tea about six o'clock—John Walker, her half-brother, took tea with me—he had not been to market with me—I had left him at home when I went, and found him there when I returned—I took the tea out of this canister, which was in the place where it was accustomed to be—I took the tea from the canister myself, and made it myself—about a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes after taking it, I felt a violent sickness—I felt no pain only from the violent retching—I sent Walker to my neighbour's, to go for the doctor, as I thought he would not be able to go so far himself—he was ill too—I complained first, and be complained in not more than two or three minutes—nobody took tea but him and myself—Mr. Moon if my medical man—he lives about a quarter of a mile from my house—Mr. Moon was not able to come himself, but sent his assistant, who came in about half an hour, I should think—I was getting worse before he arrived—the sickness was not accompanied with much pain—the assistant gave me warm water—I went to bed, and after twelve or one o'clock, I began to get better—the warm water threw off from my stomach what was there—Mrs. Budd, who worked on my ground, sat up with me that night—I saw the prisoner again on the Sunday following—she came to my house—I did not expect her—I asked her if she could tell me any thing of the circumstance which had takes place—if she knew any thing of what had been put in the tea—she said she did not—I cannot exactly say whether I began with that, or whether I spoke to her about her absence—I asked if she knew any thing of what had been put in the tea—she said, she did not know any thing about it—I asked her what was her reason for leaving my house—she said she could not account for it—I asked her if she thought I had used her ill—she said, "No"—Mrs. Budd's name was not mentioned at that time—she did not continue in my service after she came back on Sunday—the reason she came was, I had got a neighbour of mine to say I wished to speak to her—I did not know where she was to be found—I sent her a message, and she came—she staid about a quarter of an hour—I cannot recollect when I saw her next—I should think it was in about a fortnight.

Q. Did she come to you, or you go to her? A. Her brother had a letter—she came to my house—I asked her if she had any thing more to say, if

she knew any thing about it; and she said she really did not know any thing about it—I saw her again a month ago last Monday—she came to my house of her own accord, and said, she came to speak to me—that she had something to say to me, as she felt very uncomfortable—she said, "I met Mrs. Budd to-day, and she told me all about respecting the poison"—she said, on the morning when you left my house, Mrs. Budd was working in the fields taking up potatoes—she had to come home for some sacks, and in coming home for them, she took the key from a certain place where we leave it—she opened the door, came in, and got the arsenic—she had it all ready in her pocket, and that she mixed it along with the tea—she said, Mrs. Budd did that, (Mrs. Budd had attended me on the night of my sickness,) and she was sorry she had not got more to finish me.

Q. Before she made this statement, had you expressed any suspicion to her about Mrs. Budd being likely to have done such a thing? A. No; I had had no quarrel or difference with Mrs. Budd of any sort—I do not remember her saying any thing more—I did not say any thing to the prisoner about this statement—she went away to her lodging, I believe—I do not remember that I saw her again till she was taken into custody—I had a man-servant, named Shepherd, sleeping in my house formerly, while the prisoner was in my service, and before November, I directed him not to sleep in the house any longer, from observations I had made of his and the prisoner's conduct—I was very much troubled with rats at the time—I had corn in the house—I discharged Shepherd from sleeping in the house, about a month before this happened—I had purchased some arsenic to destroy the rats, which I placed between the joists and boards of the upper room in the washhouse—it was concealed between the joists and rafters of the wash-house, in three different papers—the prisoner knew I had it there—I told her as a caution, at any time if she was cleaning, if she should meet with this small parcel, to be sure and not meddle with it, for it was poison—I showed it to her in that place—the room was not locked—any one who knew where it was could get at it. My medical gentleman took a portion of the tea out of the canister—a neighbour took another portion of it, and the rest was thrown into the fire—I am sure it was the remainder of the same tea as I had taken that afternoon—Mr. Delanor, a farmer, took the other portion—when Mr. Moon came, I looked at the tea in the canister, and saw it was quite white with something—if my attention had been called to the tea before I had made it, I should have discovered it in a moment—I had no suspicion when I made the tea, and no reason to look at it particularly, when I put it in the pot.

COURT. Q. Had you a candle? A. No; it was dusk when I made the tea, and I did not perceive any thing extraordinary in it.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Where did you take your tea? A. In the kitchen, when I keep the canister—after having tea on the 5th, I replaced the canister on the mantel-shelf—it was about a quarter or twenty minutes after six o'clock when I was taken ill—I commenced tea about six o'clock—Mr. Moon's assistant came about half an hour after I had done tea, near seven o'clock—no one had coat into the kitchen before he arrived—I remained in the kitchen the whole time—I made my tea in the dusk—I had not got a candle, and could not perceive what was in it—I had expressed a wish to set the prisoner afterwards, and sat came on Sunday, and then I did not see her till about a month after—I thought her statement about Mrs. Budd a most extraordinary out—I made no remark to

her about Mrs. Budd—I had no reason to have any suspicion of Mrs. Budd.

Q. How far was the prisoner living from you after leaving your service, till she made this disclosure? A. I think about half a mile, but I do not know the place—it is in the parish of Tottenham—I did not know she was living there for some time—I did know afterwards—I knew where she was to be met with—she was taken into custody about a fortnight ago—she was taken up in the neighbourhood—she has resided in the neighbourhood till about the 19th of last month—she bore, up to the 5th of November, a most excellent character, as a harmless, good-hearted, good-natured girl.

Q. Do you happen to know she has been subject to fits which affect her intellect? A. I did not know it then—I understand so now—I heard it from her brother.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. She was in your service about nine weeks? A. Yes, she had no fits during that time—she at times appeared a little stupid—she was able to go about her usual work—I never saw her before she came to live with me, but my mother knew her.

COURT. Q. What quantity of tea might there be in the canister when you bought it on the 4th? A. It was a quarter of a pound which I put in on the Tuesday—I purchased it at a shop close by Spitalfields—I do not know the name—I have bought my tea there for twelve months before—I bought it on the 4th.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. When did you see the arsenic which was placed in the wash-house, after you felt ill? A. On Saturday, the 8th—I went to examine where I had put it, and I think I can positively state the paper had never been touched—I do not know that any body but the prisoner knew of my placing it there.

COURT. Q. You say it did not appear to have been touched, what makes you state that? A. It being wrapped up in the same way, and lying in the same place—there was no appearance of any being spilt by the side of it—to the best of my judgment, there was the same quantity in the paper, as when I first put it there—I cannot say how much there was, perhaps a quarter of an ounce—I gave 6d. for it—one of my men got it—I had no man sleeping in the house—the boy Walker slept in the house, and myself and the prisoner, but no one else—Shepherd worked on the premises—he did not take his meals on the premises—the powder was finish and white.

JOHN WALKER . I am the prisoner's half-brother, and am twelve years old. I, the prisoner, and mistress, slept in the house at Tottenham, but nobody else at that time—I remember my mistress going to market on the 6th of November—she returned about one o'clock—I know Shepherd—he worked in Mrs. Cambridge's grounds—he came into the house, after she had gone to market, about a quarter after seven o'clock—the prisoner was standing talking to him in the wash-house—they talked together for about twenty minutes—I did not hear what they said—I went sway, and left them together—I only came up to the house for tools, and went back to my work—I returned again, in about ten minutes, and I found them still together—Shepherd went away while I was there—the prisoner said to him, "Good bye;" and he said, "For ever!"—she said, "No, not for ever"—she was attached to Shepherd—I breakfasted with the prisoner after that, but she was not with me all the time I was at breakfast—I then went again to my work—I had occasion to come back again, after some time, for some sacks, and I found Shepherd with the prisoner—that was about half-past eight o'clock—Shepherd had been home to his breakfast—he staid about

with her ten minutes—I went to work in the field then, and when I came back again for some more sacks, he was going away—she called to him, and when she saw me she held her hand up to him, and said, "That will do; never mind"—when I went the second time for the sacks, she had not dressed herself to go out—I was going to the house afterwards for the sacks which had been emptied, that was about a quarter after nine o'clock—she was then dressed, and was coming out at the front gate—she had got her best clothes on, and a bundle under her arm—I asked her where she was going—she said Mrs. Cambridge had sent her to Mrs. Ratcliff's—she had a cloak on, and she put the bundle under the cloak—I did not expect she was not going to return—she did not return again that day—I went on with my work, and I came in to tea, about six o'clock—I found my mistress there—we sat down together—I saw her make the tea—she got it off the mantel-shelf, just above the fire in the kitchen—we drank tea together—I saw her take it from the canister, and make it—she was taken ill about a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes after that—the house was locked up when the prisoner went away, and she laid the key by the side of the porch against the door, where it was usually laid—the house was locked as usual after she went out—I did not see her put the key by the side of the porch—I saw her coming out of the gate, which is a little distance from the door.—I felt ill about two or three minutes after my mistress—I felt a violent sickness—my mistress went to bed—she sent me to a neighbour, to fetch a doctor—I told the neighbour to go for the doctor, and then came home—I felt ill before I went out, and she told me not to go myself to the doctor, but to send the neighbour—after that she sent me to ask Mrs. Budd to come down to stop with her all night—I was taken so ill on the road, I could not proceed—I sat down on the road side—there was a little girl along with me, and I sent her on—while I was sitting by the side of the road, the prisoner passed by—I was sick by the road side—I got up, and asked her where she was going—she said she was going home—she would take the coach and go home—her friends live in Yorkshire—the coaches which go towards her home pass through that neighbourhood—I told her mistress and I were very ill, and asked her if she would go home to Mrs. Cambridge's—she said no, she would not go home, but would take a coach and go home to Yorkshire—my father and mother, live near Bowes, in Yorkshire—my mother and hers are the same person.

Cross-examined. Q. You had seen Shepherd about a quarter after nine o'clock that morning? A. Yes; but he was not inside the house—he was working on the ground—I had seen him about the place between then and when I had tea—he was working at the same place as I was, bringing potatoes with the cart—he did not have his meals there—I saw him after his dinner time—he goes to dinner about one o'clock—he went into the stable, got his horse, and harnessed it—it was Mrs. Cambridge's horse—he went home to his dinner at one o'clock, and returned about two, and went to the stable, and harnessed the horse—the stables are about a hundred yards from the house—I go to my meals in the house—after having my meals, I go out to my work.

COURT. Q. I suppose Shepherd knew when they used to keep the key? A. Yes.

MR. DOANE. Q. It was known to every body in the place that the key hung in the porch? A. No; only Shepherd knew it—Shepherd could have let himself in before one o'clock, because there was nobody in the house—he could have done so between nine o'clock and one—I was

out at work from one o'clock till tea time—I saw Shepherd after one o'clock—Mrs. Cambridge came home at one o'clock—she was at home at one o'clock, when I came in—there are seven or eight rooms in the house—the door was not kept locked when my mistress was at home—any body might open it and walk in—my mistress usually sits in the kitchen—the door opens into the hall, and then into the kitchen at the front—there is a back entrance which opens into the wash-house, and then into the kitchen—a door parts the kitchen from the wash-house—Shepherd could not go in at the back door without going to the front—they go in at the front door, and the back door is bolted inside.

COURT. Q. When you speak of the key, do you mean the key of the front or back door? A. The front door—the back door was bolted inside.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Who was at work with you in the field? A. Mrs. Budd, three men, and Shepherd—Shepherd was going backwards and forwards, taking the potatoes from me to the house, but not into the house—they were banking the potatoes in a yard close by the house—Shepherd appeared to be engaged about his business, as usual, from the time I saw him with my sister in the wash-house till Mrs. Cambridge returned—Mrs. Budd remained working in the field all the morning—I took home a sack, and she came to meet me, seeing me heavily loaded with the sack, and returned with me—she was working in the field till after one o'clock—she did not go to the house till night, to my knowledge—she lived at Edmonton, about a mile from Mrs. Cambridge.

COURT. Q. Where did Shepherd take the potatoes to? A. To the yard—he had no business about the house, unless he went for tools—he banked the potatoes in the yard—he went home to his dinner about half a quarter of a mile from the house—I have no reason to know that he went to the house for tools between nine and one o'clock.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. He was engaged carrying potatoes from one place to the other? A. No, he had a cart and horse that carried them from the field to where they were banked—he would not want any tools—the people forked them up, and he took them away in the cart.

SARAH BUDD . I am the wife of Charles Budd, who is a labouring man, living at Edmonton. In November last, I worked for Mrs. Cambridge, in the potato field—I know the prisoner—I had no quarrel with her or with Mrs. Cambridge.

Q. Had you gone either on the 6th of November, or any other day, into the kitchen or wash-house, and put any arsenic which you found there, in your pocket? A. No, I did not put any arsenic into Mrs. Cambridge's tea-canister—I did not know where she kept her tea-canister—I did not know the had any arsenic for any purpose—Mrs. Cambridge sent for me on the night of the 6th of November—I sat up with her till about three o'clock in the morning, till she got better—she was very sick for above two hours after I went to her—I first went to her near upon nine o'clock—what she threw from her stomach was not preserved—I never expressed any regret to the prisoner, that when I came that night to Mrs. Cambridge, I was sorry I had not finished her—I never spoke to her after the 5th of November until I think it was a month ago last Monday—I have seen her, but not so near as to speak to her—I passed her in the street, in Tottenham, as I came to Mrs. Cambridge's, on the night of the 6th—she was on the right hand side of the way when I first saw her—I was on the same side—it was near upon nine o'clock—I was going down the street—on her seeing me, she crossed over

on the other side of the way—it was quite dark then, except for the lamps—I was not positive it was her—I should not like to swear it was her.

COURT. Q. Then you never saw her so near as to speak to her, from the 5th of November till she was taken up? A. No, I had never seen the tea-canister in my life—I never put any poison in it—I should be very sorry to do such a thing—I had no conversation with the prisoner at all—I did not tell her I was sorry I had not enough arsenic to finish Mrs. Cambridge, when I sat up with her.

THOMAS WILLIS . I am a labouring man, in the employ of Mrs. Cambridge. On the 6th of November I was banking potatoes—I was not in the house that day—I sometimes went to the house when we wanted any thing.

MRS. CAMBRIDGE re-examined. I do not remember when I bought the arsenic—I sent Willis with a note for it—that was the same arsenic as I placed between the joists, it might be six or eight months before—I kept it between the joists and boards ever since—I used a great quantity of it to destroy the rats.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you put the whose of the arsenic you received on the joists? A. Not the whole—the rest was mixed up for the rats.

COURT. Q. How was it mixed? A. I think it was with oatmeal—I put it in different directions in the yard—some on the corn-stacks, and other places, perhaps forty or fifty yards from the house, and in the barn where the rats had made burrows—I cannot say whether I mixed it—I sometimes mix it myself—some was kept in the state in which it came from the chemists—it was in three different papers—that was not mixed with any thing—I put it in three different papers, by way of caution—that was what was not used—it was not in distinct parcels, but for fear it should come through one paper, it was put into three—the rest was mixed up for the rats—I did not miss any from that portion which was not mixed—it did not appear to me as if any had been taken from it—some of the mixture was put in the yard adjoining the yard where the potatoes were being banked—I believe Willis banked them at that time—it is an open yard, forty or fifty yards from the house—I believe Willis dispersed the mixture of oatmeal and arsenic about the yard—I know the appearance of oatmeal when I see it—there was not the least oatmeal about the tea, in my judgment.

THOMAS WILLIS re-examined. I spread the oatmeal and arsenic about the yard and barn—I put about a table-spoonful of sugar and oatmeal every night, mixed with arsenic—I never put any arsenic without having sugar and oatmeal with it—I fetched six-pennyworth on the 14th of January last year, and used a little each time when I wanted it—I had all that came from the doctor's—I took a little at a time—I know nothing of what was concealed in the boards—when I brought it from the doctor's, I gave it to Mrs. Cambridge, and she gave me a little at I wanted it—I cannot tell when she last gave me any—I used it when she gave it to me—I did not keep it—there was very little arsenic is it—it was in a spoonful of sugar and oatmeal.

JOSIPH FORSTER . I am a constable of Tottenham, in consequence of information I received, I took the prisoner into custody en the 19th of January, at Mrs. Jennings's, who keeps a school near Edmonton-bridge—she was in service there at that time—it was in the afternoon, about four o'clock—I told her I apprehended her on suspicion of poisoning Mrs. Cambridge and her brother-in-law—I did not hold out any encouragement or intimidation to her—she wished me not to let Mrs. Jennings know of it—I

promised her I would not then—she said nothing about herself then—I then told her mistress I wished to go up stairs to search her box—this was in her presence—I was allowed to do so—the prisoner and Mrs. Jennings went with me—I found nothing—I took her to the watch-house at Edmonton—I had a conversation with her on our way there—she began to speak, and cried very much—I held out no threat or inducement to her—I told her she might say what she pleased.

MR. DOANE. Q. Did you say any thing to her before this about the charge having been made as to Mrs. Budd? A. She cried very much. I think I asked her if she knew any thing of it—I told her that I had heard she charged Mrs. Budd with it before she made any statement—I said she might say what she pleased to me—I said it was a very serious charge indeed to charge another person with it—I am certain I did not say she had better tell the truth, nor any thing of the sort.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Do you know it would be a breach of duty to hold out encouragement to prisoners, or threaten them? A. I know better—I have been an officer fourteen years—I said it was a very serious charge, and she might say what the pleased—she began to tell me, crying very much—I said, "I understand you have said it was Mrs. Budd put the poison into the canister"—she said, "Yes, it was—I will tell you all about it"—she then said, that in consequence of Mrs. Cambridge and herself having words on the 5th of November, she went out of her mistress's house into the garden, crying very much, when she met Mrs. Budd—that Mrs. Budd asked her, "Girl, what are you crying about?" and she answered, that her mistress and her had been having words, and she felt very uncomfortable—that Mrs. Budd then said to her, "Oh, never mind her, girl, don't cry; get some stuff, and do for her"—that she told Mrs. Budd she did not know how to do that—then Mrs. Budd told her she would tell her how to do it, and she would get her some stuff to put into the tea-canister of Mrs. Cambridge with the tea—and she told Mrs. Budd she could not do that, as her brother and herself always took tea with Mrs. Cambridge—Mrs. Budd, she said, told her then, that she might make any excuse, and take her brother with her, and go into the village on an errand, while Mrs. Cambridge took tea—I then asked her if that was the truth, and she said it was, and that Mrs. Budd was the person who put the stuff into the canister—that was all the conversation I had with her on the road to the watch-house—she remained in the watch-house that night—I fetched her next day, the 20th, from the watch-house at Edmonton, to Dr. Robinson's, the magistrate of Tottenham—I asked her, as I conveyed her to Dr. Robinson's, if she had any thing more to say—if she had spoken the truth about it, as it was a very serious charge to charge another person—she stated, that she had told the truth, and the whole truth—that was all that passed before she was under examination—after the examination was over on the 20th, the parties were ordered to attend next day, and she was remanded till next day—the prisoner asked the magistrate if she might be allowed to speak to me in private—it was after the other witnesses were gone—Mrs. Budd had been among the witnesses under examination—the prisoner had heard what Mrs. Budd stated—the magistrate allowed the prisoner to speak to me in private—I stepped out with her into the next room—she cried, pot her hand on my shoulder, and said, all she had said about Mrs. Budd was false—she said she had done it herself, she had put the arsenic into the tea herself, and no one else—I asked her how she could think of doing such a thing, when

she knew her own brother would have to take part of it—she said she knew it, but she could not help it—she was very sorry, but she could not help it—I said it was a very serious thing—she said she put it in at the time Walker was cleaning shoes in the wash-house—I took her before the Justice, and communicated to him what she had said—I was present at the last examination, before she was committed—Dr. Robinson was the committing magistrate—the last examination was at his own house—he took down the deposition himself—the prisoner was asked if she had any thing to say, and she made a statement, which Dr. Robinson reduced to writing in my presence, as she delivered it—it was then read over to her, and she put her mark to it—Dr. Robinson wrote his name on one side of it, and I put my name to it as the attesting witness—he did not put his name to it till I had witnessed it by his directions—this is the statement she made (looking at it)—there was no threat or inducement held out to her before she made it—I heard it read over to her before she put her mark to it—the put her mark to the same paper as was read over to her (read.)

"The prisoner, being first cautioned, and informed by me that she was not bound to answer any questions, and that what she said would be put down in writing and produced in evidence against her at her trial; and no promise of favour, nor any threat, menace, or undue terror having been made use of to induce the prisoner to say any thing, but she now voluntarily, and of her own free will says—That in consequence of my having robbed my mistress, after she had gone to market on the 6th of November last, my mind was so uneasy, I could not stop there, and after she had forgiven me for the robbery I could never look her in the face—there was arsenic in the house, which my mistress had to poison rats—I took a quantity of it out of the paper, and put it into the tea-canister with the tea—I knew I was doing wrong all the time, but I could not help myself—I felt that something was possessing me all the time, it must have been the devil—I felt as if I wanted to stop myself from doing it, but I could not—I did it between eight and nine o'clock that morning—Theophilus Shepherd did not know any thing about it, and what I have said about Mrs. Budd is all false—the reason I charged Mrs. Budd was, I thought it would save me.

"X the mark of Isabella Hopes."

"Taken before me,

Wm. Robinson, 21st of January, 1835."

"Witness to the mark of Isabella Hopes—Joseph Forster."

JOHN WALKER re-examined. I did not clean any shoes at all on the morning of the 6th of November.

WILLIAM MOON . I am a surgeon, and live at Tottenham. I was sent for to Mrs. Cambridge on the night of the 6th of November, but I did not see her myself till the 7th—my assistant went—there was very slight general indisposition on the 7th—I saw her between five and six o'clock in the afternoon—she gave me a description of what her sensations had been—I should think she was not at all recovered from the symptoms she described to me—she never suffered pain, from what I understood—but the vomiting continued—she complained much of sickness—that still continued when I saw her, and the vomiting—she also complained of lassitude—the pulse was rather lower than usual—her tongue very dry, and a little furred—I questioned her particularly as to the commencement of her illness—she stated she was taken ill soon after swallowing some tea—the first symptom she felt was sickness—my assistant is not here—she gave me a

description of her sensations from the time she was first attacked; I should say she was labouring under irritation of the stomach—I am acquainted with the action of arsenic—the symptoms she described, and those I observed, were such as I should expect from a person having imbibed arsenic—one symptom would be to lower the pulse—the heat of the skin and fur on the tongue arose from irritation of the stomach—it is the action of the stomach—the symptoms were so slight when I saw her, that had hers been an individual case, and I had seen nobody else labouring under similar symptoms, and not heard the history of it, I should not have supposed her to have taken arsenic—I heard the history of it from herself—and from the account she gave, and the observations I made, I am still of opinion that the symptoms are to be accounted for by her taking arsenic—the symptoms she described might have been produced by taking arsenic—confining myself merely to the symptoms, I should not have been able clearly to have detected arsenic—they were not to that degree that are usually seen—that would depend on how soon the offending matter would be thrown from the stomach; it being taken in solution, and sickness following immediately, I have no doubt the whole of it was thrown off her stomach, it would leave such symptoms as I found when I saw her—the whole of the ejections from the stomach had been thrown away when I saw her—the sickness being continued, but being unaccompanied with pain, and twenty-four hours having passed, I conclude no arsenic could have remained—I took about two ounces of tea from the tea-canister myself—the tea in the canister was covered with something—I could not positively say by looking at it what it was that was mixed with it, nor by the taste of it; I had very little doubt of it, but could not speak positively—arsenic has no smell—I believe it is also tasteless—I took it home to my house to send it to town by my brother, who is a professional man, was going to town the following day—he went, but forgot it—I then requested my assistant to forward it to a gentleman in town, to have it tested, which he did—he is not here—I have no doubt that the portion which was afterwards analyzed was the portion I got from the canister—I cannot identify it as the same—a portion was preserved, but afterwards thrown away, as I understood no prosecution was to follow.

Q. What proportion, in your judgment, did the matter which was mixed with the tea in the canister, bear to the tea itself? A. Perhaps about one-sixteenth in weight—arsenic is very heavy—I should think there were five or six ounces of tea in the canister—twenty grains of arsenic are sufficient to produce death—that depends on the constitution—I believe four and a half grains have been known to do it—I observed, perhaps, forty grains on the surface of the tea.

MRS. CAMBRIDGE re-examined. I put three spoonfuls of tea into the tea-pot.

MR. MOON re-examined. I should think that would contain at least a drachm of arsenic.

COURT. Q. Do not you think one grain of arsenic received into the stomach and left there would be sufficient to account for the symptoms? A. If taken in a metallic state—arsenic is very easily dissolved in boiling water—I have not examined any stomachs after death with arsenic in them—the effect of arsenic, if it remains on the stomach, is to destroy the coat of the stomach, but life might be destroyed without that—I think one grain remaining on the stomach would not be sufficient to account for the symptoms she described—I think four or five grains would do it—I should think there would be nearly sixty grains taken out in the three spoonfuls—that is sufficient to kill half a dozen people, unless the effect is immediate sickness,

which throws it off the stomach—I had not the means of ascertaining what it was at the time—I had not the apparatus.

Prisoner. I have nothing more to say than that the young man is innocent.

GUILTY.— DEATH . Aged 20.

Strongly recommended to mercy by the Jury, on account of her previous good character, and having been convicted principally upon her own confession; and by the Prosecutrix, on account of her good character.

Second Jury, before Mr. Justice Patteson.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-473
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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473. ROBERT KIRBY was indicted for feloniously and burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John Worwood about the hour of seven in the night of the 13th of January, at St. Leonard, Shoreditch, with intent to steal, and stealing therein 1 coat, value 2l. 10s.; 1 waistcoat, value 14s.; 1 pair of trowsers, value 7s.; 1 gown, value 26s.; 2 pillow-cases, value 1s. 3d.; 4 shifts, value 3s.; 4 petticoats, value 5s.; 2 bed-gowns, value 5s.; 1 key, value 1s.; 1 shirt, value 4s.; 1 apron, value 3d.; and 2 frocks, value 3s.; the goods of the said John Worwood.

JOHN WORWOOD . I live at No. 9, Ann's-place, Hoxton, in the parish of St. Leonard, Shoreditch—I am a married man, but have no family—I and my wife live in the house, and a child which I have to look after; I have no lodgers. On the 13th of January I went out between four and five o'clock in the afternoon; it was about half-past four—I am sure it was after four, but I cannot exactly say how much—my wife and the child went with me—nobody was left in the house—I made the doors and windows all fast, I am quite certain—I came home about twelve o'clock, and my wife with me—I found the back window open, and a square of glass cut out—the window was right up two feet high—any body could get in there—the door leading into the yard was open—I had left both the doors and windows double-bolted inside—the drawers were stripped of every thing—I missed a coat, waistcoat, trowsers, a silk gown, two pillow-cases, a petticoat, bedgown, and several other things—some of them were up stairs and some down—I have seen the coat again, and found a key of the front room up stairs in the pocket of it—it had been in the coat the last time I wore it.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Is the dwelling-house your own? A. It is not my own—I rent it, and live in it—I have no servant—I am certain I tried the door when I went out, and it was quite fast—I know a boy named Holloway by sight—he was not taken up.

SARAH WORWOOD . I am the prosecutor's wife. I went out with him—I looked at the back parlour window, and fastened it myself—that is the window which was broken—we returned at twelve o'clock, and missed two bed-gowns, two pillow-cases, and three petticoats, and other things.

JAMES GLIBBERY . I am a policeman. I apprehended the prisoner—I saw him in the North-road, Hoxton, about a quarter before eight o'clock on the night of the 13th of January, about a quarter of a mile from the prosecutor's house—there was a lad by his side at the time I first saw him—he was going away from the prosecutor's house when I first saw him, and carrying a bundle under his arm—I asked him what he had got there—he told me a bundle of linen—I asked him where he got it from—he said he brought it from his mother, who was a laundress, and was going to take it to some gentleman's house by Smithfield—I asked him what it contained—he said he did not know whether it was shirts or sheets—I asked him if they were ironed or mangled—he said he did not know—I said I was not satisfied, and took him to the station-house, and took the bundle, which I produce.

MRS. WORWOOD re-examined. I know these things—they are what were lost that night—some of them have marks—there is "S. W." on some of them.

(George Tyson, glass-cutter, Land of Promise, Hoxton; Francis Trevise, glass manufacturer, Nottingham-place, Kingsland-road; and James Strayton, glass-cutter, Silver-street, deposed to the prisoner's good character.)

GUILTY.— DEATH . Aged 19.

Second Jury, before Mr. Justice Vaughan.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-474
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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474. RICHARD JUSTICE was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Brown, about the hour of two in the night of the 21st of January, at St. Mary, Islington, Middlesex, with intent the goods and chattels therein feloniously and burglariously to steal.

GEORGE CALLIS . I was in the service of William Brown, a linen-draper, in the parish of St. Mary, Islington. On the 22nd of January, I slept in the shop, which fronts the street, and goes backwards—I went to bed about eleven o'clock—I am the only person who slept there—the windows and doors were all safe—there is a back window facing the garden—I put the shutter up to that window, put a bar across it, and bolted it—the window is a large square in the shape of a door—it is large enough to admit a man through it—it opens, and has a rail before it with a sort of door to it—the window is more than one square, but there is one square in it which opens—there are about twelve squares to the window—one of them will open large enough to admit the body of a man—the other windows and doors were all properly secured—the dwelling-house is over the shop, and the family sleep up stairs—nobody could have come down, and done any thing to the window after I was in bed—about two o'clock in the morning of the 22nd, I heard a noise, similar to rats—it continued about half an hour—I then heard it where the rats are not generally in the habit of coming—that excited my suspicions—I still listened, and heard a hem from a human voice—I was not certain whether it was in the next house, or in the shop—I sat up in bed, and listened very attentively—I got hold of the rattle, and turned one notch round, and said, "Is there any one there?"—every thing was then still, which I thought strange, as making a noise does not make the rats quiet—I then got a piece of serge which laid close to me, and threw it towards where I heard the noise—I still heard some noise, and turned the rattle round again, and said, "Is there any one there?"—I received no answer—the counter just comes in contact with my head as I sit in bed—I still heard the noise—I waited till it came over the fan-light, and I was looking down the counter, and by the reflection of the light from the fan-light, I thought I saw something move—I sprang up, and inquired who was there, but received no answer—I immediately jumped upon him, and seized on him, I struck his head with the rattle, which broke—I then struck him with the handle of the rattle, and he called out "Murder"—I dragged him out of the shop into the passage, and gave the alarm—it was the prisoner—the family got up—I got a light, and examined the back window—before the light was brought down, I dragged him to the place where I first struck him, and when the light came, I saw where he had got in—the window was wide open, and the shutter down—the single pane of glass was thrown wide open—it was all quite secure when I went to bed—it is large enough for the prisoner to get in, and he could not have got in at any other place—there are several gardens behind the house—there is a railing to our garden, and the other gardens have a wall to them—it was snowy weather—it had been snowing that night, and there was

snow on the ground—the policeman has traced the foot-marks in it since—I found three chisels a few yards from where the prisoner had got in, on the floor—the shop is about twelve yards long—he was given to the policeman, sod a chisel or screw-driver was found on him, a candle, a knife, a comb, and a necklace of beads, and some songs and paints—I did not know him before.

Prisoner. He said before the magistrate that he forgot to bolt the window. Witness. That is wrong—I put up the shutter and bar, and the iron bolt into the bar; but a screw, which screws the bolt, was wanting—I said that before the magistrate; but I am certain the bar was secured with the bolt—there are about 10,000l. worth of goods in the shop.

JAMES RUSSELL (police-constable.) On the night in question, I was called in, about three o'clock, and went to Mr. Brown's premises—I found the prisoner there, leaning on the counter, with his hand to his head, which was bleeding—it had a cut on it—I searched him, and in his left hand coat pocket I found a screw-driver, a candle, and a knife—I saw Callis take three chisels from the floor—I asked the prisoner next morning coming from the station-house to Hatton-garden, how he became possessed of the three chisels—I did not make him any threat or promise—he said he used them in his business, as a brass pattern founder—I never saw him before—I went out to the back window when I took him—it was then snowing—I traced foot-marks from the window across four gardens; then across a nine-inch wall—I did not compare them with the prisoner's shoes—he must have come from Stud-street over eight or nine gardens.

Prisoner. Neither of them are chisels. Witness. Here they are—I call them chisels (producing them)

Prisoner's Defence. I left my home, which is in Cornwall, to go to Liverpool, to my brother's, who is a brass-founder—I had no money, and sold all my tools for nine shillings—that brought me to Hounslow, and there I got a lift by a van—I bought a penny candle, to give me a light in the van—when I came to London; I asked the way to the Liverpool-road, to go to Liverpool—I was all day finding out the road—I get up to St. John-street about seven or eight o'clock in the evening—when I came up to where this man lives, there was a yard, where there were some workmen—I went in, and there found a quantity of horse-hair—I slept there till it came on towards daylight, and I thought 1 would go on—I found the door bolted, and could not get over the way I came—I tried to make the best of my way out—I went over several gardens, but could find no passage—I saw a light through this gentleman's window, coming from the front of the house—I put my hand to the shutter—it was not bolted, and it opened, and the window opened—I got through, and as I went along I felt a parcel of cloth, but did not touch it—I was there more than twenty minutes—I was trying to find the door, to get into the street—I heard this person say, "What do you do there?"—I thought it was somebody in the street—in a minute or two I heard something rattle—he said, "What do you do there?"—I made my way to the window again, and thought if I could get out, it would do—when I got lack between that man and the window, he said, "Let it be man or devil, I will see who it is"—he hit me with the rattle several times—I told him to be quiet, and I would go with him—he kept knocking me on the head till he broke the rattle, and cut my head in three places—I was senseless for some minutes—he began to knock for assistance, and they came and took me.

JAMES RUSSELL re-examined. He must have come from Stud-street to

get to the gardens—there is a passage out of Stud-street leading to a school-room, and he must clamber over a wall six feet high into a garden, and come along from Stud-street into Theberton-street, over Mr. Goodburn's wall, and six walls to get to this house—it was a moon-light night, and snowing fast.

Prisoner. I did not clamber over any wall—there was a shop with horse-hair in it—I thought it was daylight, and thought I would go—I then got over the walls to try to get out.

GUILTY.— DEATH . Aged 16.

Third Jury, before Mr. Justice Patteson.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-475
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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475. THOMAS JOHNSON was indicted for feloniously assaulting Charles Brooks, on the 25th of January, at St. Mary, Matfelon, alias Whitechapel, putting him in fear, and taking from his person, and against his will, 1 watch-chain, value 8d.; and 1 watch-key, value 2d.; his goods; and that he, at the delivery of the King's gaol of Newgate, holden on the 15th of May, was convicted of felony, by the name of Thomas Wilbraham.

CHARLES BROOKS . On the evening of the 25th of January, I was going along the Commercial-road with my wife, between seven and eight o'clock, and just by Plumber's-row the prisoner met me in the breast—I felt two or three more surround us behind—I could feel them behind me pressing us close together—the prisoner was in front of me—there was a gas-light just over our heads—the prisoner's face was close to mine, and his body against mine—I could distinguish his countenance well, and I am certain he is the man—I told him to go on, or let me pass—with that I felt my watch coming up my fob—the prisoner had not touched me before that, only put his breast against mine—the persons behind were still touching me—I said, "You are after my watch, are you?"—I put my hand down to my watch first, and then said so—he made a sudden pull, and my chain parted from my watch, and he was gone in a moment down Plumber's-row—I had no seal—he got no thing but the chain and key—he ran off—the policeman came up directly, and went after him, and brought him back—he was not out of my sight at all.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Have you always been certain the prisoner was the man? A. Yes; I never expressed a doubt as to his being the person who came in front of me—I went to the station-house—I did not say I did not think he was the man—I do not recollect having any conversation with the policeman apart from the prisoner—I was at the station-house about ten minutes or a quarter of an hour—I do not recollect speaking to the policeman, or he to me—the policeman brought him up to me to the lamp, and said, "Is that the man?"—I said, "It is"—I did not express a doubt about him at the station-house—I have lived about eighteen years about Fashion-street, and his face was quite familiar to me—there was no one in front of me but him—the chain has not been found—it was brass.

DANIEL SUGG . I am a policeman. On the 25th of January, I came up to the prosecutor, and saw the prisoner in front of him—there were two gas-lights right over his head—I had seen him about the street several times—I saw him snatch the chain from the prosecutor's fob—there were some persons behind him, but I could not distinguish them—I was in front of Brooks—I saw the prisoner snatch the chain, and run up Plumber's-row, and I after him—I never lost sight of him—I caught him about fifty yards from the row—I am quite sore of him.

Cross-examined. Q. What time elapsed from your first seeing him, and apprehending him? A. It did not exceed a minute and a half the whole transaction—I came up at the instant he pulled the chain—he snatched the chain the instant I came up—no one else was in front—there were several behind—I never said there was somebody else in front.

WILLIAM CHADWICK . I am a policeman. I have a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction—I was present when he was tried at the sessions after the 20th of April, in the New Court, by the name of Thomas Wilbraham.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you present at the former trial? A. Yes—I am quite certain he is the man—I was a witness. (Certificate read.)

Prisoner's Defence. I left home about half-past five o'clock—I had been to Mr. Freeman's, in Zion-square—when I got to Plumbers'-row, there was a mob of about twenty persons round—I got nearly down there, when the policeman came and said, "I want you"—he took me to the gentleman, and said, "Is this him?"—he said, "I don't think it is him;" and his wife said the same—at the station-house I heard the policeman say to the old gentleman, "You will swear to him, then;" and then he came and swore to me very hard.

GUILTY — DEATH . Aged 19.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor on account of the respectability of his parents.

Third Jury, before Mr. Justice Patteson.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-476
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown
SentenceDeath; Death

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476. GEORGE WILSON and JAMES PARKER were indicted for feloniously assaulting Susan Tillit, on the 27th of January, at St. Giles, Camberwell, putting her in fear, and taking from her person 1 handkerchief, value 3s.; and 1 gown, value 2l. 2s., the goods of John Paul.

SUSAN TILLIT . On the 27th of January, I was going along the Coburg-road, in the parish of Camberwell, at half-past six o'clock in the evening—I heard footsteps behind me, and the prisoner Wilton passed on a few yards before me—I was on the left hand side of the road, and he on the right—I saw him come across the road to meet me—he met me and seized me by the collar and throat—I was dressed as I am now—he snatched my bundle from me, which I was carrying in my hand, at the same time as he took me by the collar—I immediately turned round, and called, "Stop thief"—he ran down a turning in the Coburg-road—there was another man behind me—I saw them both running together—I had not seen that person before Wilson came up—I only heard footsteps behind me—it was done very quick—it did not occupy above a minute or two—there was a gas-lamp about a dozen yards from me—it threw the light on Wilson's face—I could not see the other man's face, nor could I describe his dress—the bundle contained a gown—it was tied up in a silk handkerchief—there were some pieces of silk in the bundle with the dress—it was one or two pieces of silk pinned up together—I have seen the handle since.

Wilson. Q. Did you not state, when I was taken, that you could not swear to me? A. I was at the station-house when he came in without a hat—I did not speak positively; but immediately he put on his hat, I recognised him—I did not say I could not swear to him.

Q. Did you not say at the office that Parker took you by the throat? A. I made a mistake in the name—it was Wilson—I fully recognised him at the station-house after he put his hat on.

Wilson. At the time I was taken there was a flaw in the indictment—ulter she said I was the person, she said it was Parker, and it was altered—

I asked who it was altered it, and it was said it was the clerk's fault, and not hers—I do not think it should have been altered.

Witness. When Wilson put on his hat I was positive of him, and have always persisted in it from that time to this.

ALFRED PAUL . On the 27th of January I was watching in the Coburg-road, in consequence of information which I had—soon after seven o'clock, I met Phillips with the prisoner Wilson a short distance from Coburg-road—I turned down the Coburg-road, and within a few yards of the turning I met Parker with the bundle under his arm, about 150 yards from where I had met Wilson—I followed Parker—he turned down the Kent-road towards Greenwich—he still had the bundle under his arm—I was close behind him—I ran almost to keep up with him—he turned into the Lord Nelson public-house—I stood outside a few moments, and then went into the public-house, and as I went in Parker came out—from what I heard from the landlady, I ran out and caught him a few yards from the door—I asked him if he wanted a policeman—he said, "What?" and seemed confused—I asked him a second time, and he said he did—I told him if he turned back with me I would take him to a policeman, but I took him into the Lord Nelson, and took the bundle from him—I found it was this dress—I detained him, and sent for a policeman to give him in charge—I took the bundle from him—I went next morning to the place where the prosecutrix described that the man had run up, and found there was no thoroughfare, and at the very extremity of the turning I picked up these pieces of silk, which are the same pattern as the dress—I examined the bundle when I took it from him—there was a dress in it—it appeared as if it had been opened and rolled up in a smaller compass—I gave it to the policeman at the station-house.

Parker. Q. You said you took the bundle from me before you went to the public-house; did not you take it up when I put it down before the landlady?—I said, "I want a policeman, I have found this"—did not you take it off from where I laid it on the bar? A. No, I did not, I took it from under your arm, and opened it on the bar; I think I took it form him inside the public-house, just as he entered the door.

RICHARD PHILLIPS . I am a policeman. On the 27th January I was on duty in the Albany-road, at the bottom leading into the Kent-road—the prosecutrix came to me and gave me information—I went to watch, and in about twenty minutes I saw Wilson coming up from the turning where she said she had lost the bundle—he was sneaking up underneath the wall in Coburg-road, about twenty yards from where she told me she had lost her dress—he had no bundle with him—I asked him what he was doing there—he told me he was trying to get a few halfpence, and that he was a gentleman's servant out of employ—I asked him where he lived—he said in Kent-street—he did not know the number, but it was the name of Mrs. Price—I said he answered the description of a person who had robbed a lady of a dress—I took him to the station-house—I did not see the last witness, to my recollection—I was at the station-house when the prosecutrix came—she recognised him after he put his hat on, but not at first—she never said she was not certain of him after he had put his hat on—I searched him, and found a duplicate on him for a shirt—I then asked him where he had been on the previous night—he said to Kensington—the duplicate was for a shirt pawned at Kensington.

JAMES LONG (policeman R 150.) I have the bundle. I received it from Paul—Parker was given into my custody—I asked him, when I went into the Lord Nelson, where he got the bundle—he said he picked it up

down a dark turning, but he did not know where, as he was a stranger to the place—I said, "Where were you going?"—he said to Rochester.

SUSAN TILLIT . This is the dress that was taken from me that night, and the handkerchief it was in; and these pieces of silk are what were in the bundle—they are the same pattern as the dress.

Wilson's Defence. I know nothing of the robbery—I have been a gentleman's servant, but am out of employ; and being in a strange country, could get no work—distress compelled me to ask people for a few halfpence to pay for my lodging—going by this public-house, an occasion took me to go down this place—I went up, and was not there half a minute, when I met the policeman, and the woman with him—he asked where I had been—I said, I had occasion to go up there—he said, "You are just the person described to me as doing a robbery"—I said, "I am willing to answer any charge"—I went to the station-house—I told him I had been going to get a few halfpence to pay for my lodging.

Parker's Defence. I was out of work, and accidentally found the bundle, as I was going to ease myself down this place—I was on my way to Rochester.




OLD COURT, Monday, February 2, 1935.

First Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-477
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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477. EDGAR CARLTON was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of January, 1 handkerchief, value 4s., the goods of George Wintle Roberts, from his person.

GEORGE WINTLE ROBERTS . I am a merchant, and live at Park-terrace, Islington. On the evening of the 26th of January, about ten minutes past nine o'clock, I was in the City-road—a caravan standing there drew my attention—I stopped for a moment—I felt a rustling behind me—I suspected I had lost something—I turned round immediately, and observed the prisoner thrusting my handkerchief into his breast—I collared him and charged him with the robbery, and endeavoured to drag him from the people—I got him some distance, and intended to give him in charge—he said he had not stolen it, but that boy had, pointing to another person, who I should not think could have taken it, my handkerchief having been on the other side—I had taken my handkerchief at the same time I collared him—I dragged him about ten yards—he made great resistance, and endeavoured to throw me—he forced himself back into the crowd—the caravan had then gone some little distance—when he found he could not throw me, he stooped down, thrust his head between my legs, and threw me down with great violence—my head was very much injured, and cut in two places—I was stunned, but as soon as I recovered, I seized him again, and I suppose when he tossed me, I had struck him with my knee, as he was then rising—I made a grasp at him, and dragged him some distance—he made strong resistance, and several of the mob came up, and felt me round my pockets, three of them got hold of me, and struck me—I called to the policeman, and the persons about me called out, "Go it, go it," as if it were a fight—

I called till the officer came and took him—I delivered the handkerchief to the officer—the treatment I received was so severe, that I have been under medical hands; and on Saturday last I was bled—they struck me on the sides, and down the arm, in endeavouring to rescue the prisoner—this is my handkerchief.

Prisoner. I told the gentleman to take that lad, and three or four people saw him throw the handkerchief down—I pointed him out to the gentleman, and he saw him run. Witness. I turned so suddenly, that I do not think any one could have taken it but the prisoner—I believe the persons who came up were his own gang.

JEREMIAH CALLAHAN (police-constable G 108.) On the night of the 26th, I saw the prosecutor with the prisoner in the midst of the crowd—he gave him to me for stealing a handkerchief—I did not see the mob use any violence to the prosecutor—I had some difficulty in getting in, which I considered was that the prisoner might make his escape.

Prisoner. The handkerchief was muddy where it was thrown down by the boy, who was not five yards behind him—there was a gentleman came up, who saw him throw it down—I asked him to go to the station-house, but he said his time was valuable, and he could not.

GEORGE WINTLE ROBERTS . The handkerchief got dirty when I was thrown down—I did not see that it was dirty before—I lost a new hat at the same time, and a very old one was left me.

(The prisoner put in a petition, representing himself to be in destitute circumstances, but not alluding to the charge.)

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-478
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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478. GEORGE CLARKE was indicted for stealing, on the 7th of January, 245 yards of silk, value 22l. 6s.; and 64 yards of satin, value 5l. 4s., the goods of Richard Hooper and another.—Two other Counts stating them to be the goods of Thomas Cooper, and of John Remington Mills.

JAMES WATKINS . I live in Aldermanbury, and am book-keeper to Mr. Thomas Cooper, who keeps the George Inn. On the 7th of January I saw the prisoner in the yard—he took from the front boot of the Old Company's Bristol coach, which stood in the yard, a paper parcel, and walked out of the yard with it; but previous to his going, I asked him if he was going down by the coach—he said yes he was, and he should be in the coffee-room, and I thought he might be removing his own parcel—he did not go into the coffee-room—I followed and came up with him in Wood-street—I brought him back with the porter, and took the parcel from him—part of the property is here.

JOHN BESTOW . I am warehouseman to John Remington Mills, of No. 30, Milk-street. He has no partner—this parcel contained an order which we had received by post, from Hooper and Starky, of Bristol—I looked the goods out, and have the invoice here—the porter made them up, but I put each piece of goods in a white paper, as this one is now, with my mark on—the next morning I was sent for to the Justice-room, and saw the parcel containing the four pieces of silk which I had made the invoice of—they were the property of my employer, and each piece was marked on the end with my figures—three of them were allowed to be sent off—this is the other—the parcel contained the property stated—it was worth 37l. 10s., and was the property of my master—it had not been paid for—the porter took the parcel to the inn, and booked it, but he is not here.

WILLIAM HENMAN . I am an officer. I took the prisoner, and produced the parcel before the magistrate—it contained the property stated—this piece of crimson sarsnet was in the parcel.

JAMES WATKINS . I delivered the same parcel to the officer which I took from the prisoner—Mr. Thomas Cooper is the sele coach proprietor.

GUILTY . Aged 32.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-479
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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479. THOMAS WILLIAMSON was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of December, 2 spoons, value 2l., the goods of Joseph Scott, his master.

HENRY COTTAM . I am shopman to a pawnbroker, in the Minories. I produce two silver table-spoons which were pawned by the prisoner in the name of John Carty, for Joseph Scott, on the 22nd of December, for 15s.—I am clear the prisoner is the person—he had pawned at the shop before—he gave his address in Cooper's-row, which is on the duplicate.

Prisoner. I pawned them for Mr. Scott—they were given me by him to pawn.

ELIZA FRANCES LOCK STONE . I am servant to Mr. Joseph Scott, of Walcot-place, Kennington-road. These are his spoons—I saw them safe on the morning of the 22nd of December—before the prisoner came to the house, they were on the table in the kitchen—the prisoner had been discharged from Mr. Scott's service on the 20th.

JAMES BLACKHALL . I was a police-constable. I took the prisoner, and found three duplicates on him—one is of these spoons.

HENRY COTTAM . This is the duplicate I gave him.

JOSEPH SCOTT . These are my spoons—I did not employ the prisoner to pawn them at any other time.

Prisoner. He gave me the spoons to paws when I dined over the water, and said they had been lost for some time. Witness. No, I never did—he slept in my warehouse—I did not find my property right till the last—I took stock from one week to another, and the things were correct then, but previous to that I had missed goods—I discharged the prisoner on Saturday, the 20th of December—he went to my house afterwards, and took the spoons.

COURT. Q. What do you mean by saying the stock was right from week to week? A. It was not right when I first took stock—five handkerchiefs were missing, but from that time there was no further deficiency.

Prisoner. He says it was five handkerchiefs, that is not correct—they were five opera ties, which I never saw—when I left him he took stock, and all was right—he knows nothing about his own warehouse—he comes at nine o'clock in the morning, and sits down drinking ale and brandy, and does not know what he is doing—he employed me to pawn these spoons.

JOSEPH SCOTT . I declare I never did—I had seen the opera ties about a fortnight before I missed them.

GUILTY of stealing only. Aged 32.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-480
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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480. THOMAS WILLIAMSON was again indicted for stealing, on the 10th of June, 1 pair of trowsers, value 10s., the goods of Thomas Robert Warner; to which he pleaded


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-481
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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481. MARY ANN SELKIRK was indicted for stealing, on the 7th of January, 28 yards of ribbon, value 18s., the goods of Joseph Railton and another.

HENRY ASBRIDGE . I am in the employ of Joseph Railton and another, of Regent-street. About five o'clock on the evening of the 7th of January, the prisoner came and asked to look at some sarsnet ribbon, at about eightpence a yard—I showed her some at eightpence halfpenny—she asked if I had any wider—I went to see, and on returning to the drawer, I missed one piece of ribbon—I looked at her, and saw it under her cloak—I rolled up the ribbon and put the drawer on one side—I called some young men, who came, and I took the ribbon from her—this is it—it is worth about 18s.—it has our shop mark on it—I had not shown her this, but it was in the drawer—I had shown her some beaver ribbon—the did not say any thing.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. You saw it under her cloak? A. Yes, under her right arm—the cloak was a little open—she appeared sober—she had a hoarseness—I did not ask who she had been drinking with—I went for the officer—I do not remember that he asked her whether she had been drinking—I was confused at the moment—I have seen her before, and never discovered any loss by her.

GEORGE AVIS . I am an officer of Marlborough-street. I was sent for, and took the prisoner—she said she knew nothing at all about it, and she never took it—she repeated that a great many times—I asked where she had been—she said with a friend in St. Martin's-lane, taking a glass of rum—I said I smelt she had been drinking—I should not think she was in such a state as to have made a blunder in taking any thing up—she had been drinking.

Cross-examined. Q. You asked who she had been drinking with? A. Yes, I do not think the witness heard it—there were 2s. found on her.

Prisoner. I went in and asked for a yard and a half of drab sarsnet ribbon—he asked me why a pink would not do—I saw a drab, and told him to serve me with that, but I still had the pink in my hand—the other shopman asked what I was going to do with that—I said, "Nothing"—he took it out of my hand, and said 1 was drunk—I did not know the officer was gone for, the shopman took the ribbon to the gas, looked at it, and then brought it back, and put it under my shawl.

COURT to HENRY ASBRIDGE. Q. Was the ribbon given back to her? A. No, I went and took it from her—I marked it, and put it into my pocket.

Prisoner. This witness was measuring a yard and a half of ribbon? Witness. No, I measured none—she asked for beaver ribbon, and I showed her one she did not like—I went to another part of the shop, and when I returned, I missed this one, which I saw she had.

----ATKINSON. I was in the shop, and was called by Asbridge, who said he missed a piece of ribbon, and this woman had it under her right arm—there was an opening in her cloak, and I saw it—Asbridge took it from under her arm.

JURY to HENRY ASBRIDGE. Q. Did either of the shopmen put the ribbon under her arm? A. No; I took it from her, and it never was in any one's hands but mine, till the officer had it—it was under her right arm, and the cloak did not quite meet.

Prisoner. This young man did not come from behind the counter at all—there was a tall young man took it from me, and looked at it at the gas-light, and then he came and put it under my arm.

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Six Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-482
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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482. JOHN SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of January, 1 handkerchief, value 3s., the goods of Richard Thornton, from his person.

RICHARD THORNTON . I am a merchant. On the 15th of January, I was in Thames-street, and in turning up Bush-lane, 1 felt tome one at my pocket—I turned, and saw the prisoner and another youth—they both ran down Bush-lane, and were stopped—I charged him with stealing my handkerchief, and a person came and brought my handkerchief, which had been dropped under a cart—I did not see the prisoner in possession of it, but it was picked up in the line he ran, and within a few feet of where he was stopped—one or two persons had ran when I called "Stop thief"—the prisoner was close to me when I felt the pull at my pocket—I then missed my handkerchief, and pursued him—the handkerchief was thrown into the mud just off the pavement, near where he was running—I did not see it in his custody.

THOMAS WILLIAMS (City police-constable, No. 73.) I took the prisoner at the bottom of Dowgate-hill, and this handkerchief was given to me.

RICHARD THORNTON . This is my handkerchief—it has my mark on it—I did not see him drop it.

COURT. Q. Was your deposition read over to you? A. I think it was—in the deposition I said, in my flurry, it was Dowgate-hill, but I found it in Bush-lane—when I turned back, I thought I saw the handkerchief, but they were so close together, I could not discover who had it—I believe the prisoner had it in hit hand, but I should not like to swear it.

(The prisoner put in a written defence, declaring his innocence.)


OLD COURT.—Tuesday, February 3rd, 1835.

Second Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-483
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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483. SAMUEL COLES and GEORGE COLES were indicted for stealing, on the 16th of January, 3 shirts, value 12s.; 2 shifts, value 3s.; 3 handkerchiefs, value 6s.; 1 flannel-shirt, value 1s.; 1 waistcoat, value 3s.; and 1 towel, value 7d.; the goods of John Biggs.

JOHN BIGGS . I am foreman at the One Swan, Bishopsgate-street, and live there over a stable and coach-house. On the 16th of January, my wife called me, and told me the room was broken open—the prisoners have lived in the yard seven or eight months—they call themselves porters about Spitalfields market.

MARY BIGGS . I am the prosecutor's wife. I locked the door of the room between seven and eight o'clock at night, and unlocked it about half-past eight o'clock on the morning of the 16th—it must have been opened by a false key in the night-time—I missed the property stated in the indictment, off a line where they hung to dry—the prisoners lived five doors from us.

JOHN BOARDS . I am a pawnbroker, and live in Shoreditch. The prisoner, Samuel Coles, came to my house on the 16th of January, about nine o'clock in the morning, and brought a shirt, a shift, and two handkerchiefs—I told him I should not take them in—I did not think he had come rightly by them, and asked who sent him—he said his mother—I said, "Your mother may have sent you, but if so, she did very wrong; go and send her to me"—he went away, and soon after brought George Coles—I detained the linen, and said, "You have not brought your mother;

you shall not have it; send your mother to me; I will give it to her"—I went out to look for a policeman, but could not find one—they wanted me to return the linen—I let them go, and told a policeman to be near at hand when they came again, but they never returned—next morning, the policeman and Mrs. Biggs came, and claimed the linen.

EDWARD KIRBY DARLINGTON . I am a policeman. On the 16th of January, Biggs told me to apprehend the prisoners, which I did, and found the property at Boards's.

HENRY SEBRIGHT . I am shopman to Mr. Burgess, a pawnbroker, in Shoreditch. I have a flannel-shirt and shift pawned, to the best of my belief, by the prisoner Samuel, on the 16th of January, between eight and nine o'clock in the morning.

JOHN ELDRED . I live with Mr. Wiskard, a pawnbroker, in Bishopsgate-street. I have a waistcoat pawned by Samuel Coles.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

Samuel Coles's Defence. The outer door was open—a man named Green works in the same yard—he asked my brother overnight if he would take the things—he said yes—Green got a key, and opened the door overnight—he folded the clothes, and put them behind the door for us—we got there in the morning, and took them to pledge.

SAMUEL COLES— GUILTY . Aged 19. Confined Six Months.


Before Mr. Recorder.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-484
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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484. JAMES LAWSON was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of December, 1 bridle, value 10s.; and 1 saddle, value 3l.; the goods of Henry Harms.

HENRY HARMS . I live at the Angel Inn, Farringdon-street. On the 31st of December I saw the prisoner there—he said Mr. Beeson had sent him to borrow my bridle and saddle—he formerly lived with Mr. Beeson, which I knew, and let him have them.

Prisoner. Q. Did you speak to me in your yard, or was it your clerk? A. I did—I was in the counting-house—he said, "Will you lend Mr. Beeson a bridle and saddle?"—I am positive he used Mr. Beeson's name—the saddle belongs to me—I only intended to lend it, and that to Mr. Beeson—he promised to return it in an hour.

JAMES BEESON . I am a veterinary surgeon, and live in Windmill-court, Giltspur-street. I did not send the prisoner to borrow a bridle and saddle of Mr. Harms—he left my service on the 14th December—I had nothing to do with him after that—I never had any transaction with the prisoner respecting a horse.

ROGER LUCCOMBE . I am a saddler, and live in Long-lane. On the 31st of December or 1st of January the prisoner brought this saddle to me, and said Mr. Beeson and him had bought it with a horse; that Beeson had sold the horse that morning, and had sent him with the saddle—that it partly belonged to him and partly to the prisoner—I asked him why Beeson did not keep it himself—he said he had a great quantity of his own, and if Beeson kept it, he did not suppose he should get his share of it—I asked what he wanted for it—he said 30s.—I gave him 29s.

Prisoner. Q. Did I mention Mr. Beeson's name to you? A. Yes, you did. I afterwards, upon examination, found the saddle was my own manufacture.

Prisoner's Defence.—He did not ask bow I came by it or any thing.

GUILTY . Aged 36.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-486
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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486. JAMES LAWSON was again indicted for stealing, on the 5th of January, 1 bridle, value 30s.; and one saddle, value 3l.; the goods of Samuel Harton.

SAMUEL HARTON . I am an ironmonger, and live in Newgate-street. About the 5th of January the prisoner came and asked me to lend him a bridle and saddle, as he wanted it to try a horse for Captain Johnson in the Edgeware-road, and he would return it next morning—it was worth 5l.—he never returned it.

CHARLES GRACIE . I am a saddler, and live in Cow-cross-street. The prisoner brought me this bridle and saddle, and asked me to boy them—I asked what he wanted for them—he said two guineas—I asked how he came by it—he said it was given to him by Captain Johnson—I asked where he lived—he said close by—I asked if he could take me to a reference—he took me to the Crown, in West-street—the landlord said he should not be afraid of buying things of him—he then took me to his lodging—I found it was a bad house—I then suspected him—he went back to my house—I shut him in, but could not find a policeman—at last he came out and said he would go with me to Johnson's, instead of which he ran away—I advertised the saddle, and the prosecutor owned it.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

GEORGE LOCH . I apprehended the prisoner on the 23rd, and searched him—I found no money on him; but several tailors' bills.

GUILTY .— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-487
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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487. DANIEL MURRAY was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of December, 1 pair of boots, value 6s., the goods of Thomas Meredith, his master.

THOMAS MEREDITH . I am a boot and shoe-maker, and live at Ratcliff-cross Stairs. The prisoner was my apprentice—about the 9th of December he had been absent for a time—on the 17th of December he got up in the morning, and I missed a pair of boots—on the 14th of January his brother brought him to me—I said, "What have you done with the boots?"—he said, "I have sold them for 9d. at a shop at the top of Rag-fair"—I said, "Should you know that shop again?"—he said, "Yes"—they were worth 6s.—they were not new ones, but were newly soled and heeled—these are them.

GEORGE WILLIAM GRAVE (policeman K 233.) On the 14th of January, the prosecutor gave the prisoner into my custody—he said he had sold the boots, at the bottom of Rag-fair, for 9d. and an old pair of boots, which he had sold to another person for 3 1/2 d.—I went and found the boots there.

JOSEPH HOPPE . I am a clothes-salesman, and deal in new and second-hand shoes—I live in the Minories. The prisoner brought a pair of boots to me—I gave him 9d. for them—I asked him where he got them—he said his father and him repaired boots, and that he lived in Beck's-rents, Rosemary-lane, which are about three hundred yards from my shop—I gave him a pair of boots which he was to repair for 1s.—I never saw him again till about a week after, when the policeman brought him, and I produced the boots.

Prisoner. He said he would give me 9d. and the old pair for them.

Witness. I did not—I gave him them to repair—they were worth about 6d.—they would have been much better than these, when repaired.

THOMAS MEREDITH re-examined. The journeyman's wages of these boots

cost me 2s. 6d.—I only repair them to fill the men's time up, and pay them the same wages as I do for a bespoke pair—the leather would be worth 14d., besides the labour and patches, which are 2s. 6d.—any man must know they are worth more than 9d.

GUILTY . Aged 14.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-488
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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488. JOHN MARMOND was indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of January, 1 handkerchief, value 3s., the goods of Charles Buchanan, from his person.

CHARLES BUCHANAN . I live in Cannon-street. On the morning of the 23rd of January I was in Long-lane, Smithfield, about half-past ten o'clock, and met two very suspicious characters, who attracted my attention by dodging me and looking me in the face—they almost ran against me, and at the same time I felt a slight twitch at my pocket—I turned round quickly, and saw my handkerchief in the hands of the prisoner, who appeared in the act of passing it to his companion, but it seems he did not—there were two of them behind, and two before me—I collared him, and took him into the shop of Mr. Lucas, a druggist, in Aldersgate-street, I sent for an officer, who searched him, and said nothing could be done with him, but he would lock him up—I was not satisfied, and said he should go before a magistrate—I remained about half a minute in Mr. Lucas's shop, when Bennett brought the handkerchief in in his hand—I am sure the handkerchief I saw in the prisoner's hand was mine—I could not swear that from the view I had of it, but he had one in his hand, which appeared to be mine, instantly after I felt the twitch at my pocket—I had used it not half a minute before.

DAVID BENNET (City police-constable No. 33.) I followed the prisoner after he was taken into custody, and observed between his thighs part of a silk handkerchief—there was a hole in his trowsers behind, and this handkerchief was hanging out of it—I took it from his trowsers, and took it back to the prosecutor, who identified it.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

Prisoner's Defence. I was in Long-lane, and saw the handkercheif lying down—I saw a boy run—I being close to the gentleman, he turned round, and took me.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-489
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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489. JOHN SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of January, 1 coat, value 30s., the goods of George Clamp; to which he Pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined Three Months.

Before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-490
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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490. JAMES PHILLIPS was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of January, 2 sheets, value 5s.; and 1 pillow-case, value 6d.; the goods of William Wright.

WILLIAM WRIGHT . I keep a public house at Enfield. On the 15th of January, the prisoner came to the house, about five o'clock in the afternoon, and asked for a bed for the night—he had some refreshment—remained there till about ten o'clock, and was shown to bed; and in the morning he was rather late in getting up—I sent the servant to call him, but just at

that moment he came dawn—he had paid every thing before he went to bed—soon after he left the house, the servant missed two sheets and a pillow-case—he was pursued, and brought back with them on his person.

MARIA ANN SIMPSON . I am servant to the prosecutor. I had put the sheets on the prisoner's bed—I missed them directly he want, and a pillow-case.

RICHARD WATKINS . I am a Bow-street patrol. I received information, and went in pursuit of the prisoner—I came up with him three-quarters of a mile from the prosecutor's—I took off his hat, and found this sheet in it—I took him to the watch-house, and he produced the other sheet himself—when I overtook him he was sitting down, and he said, "If you had not come up, I think I should have out my throat, the temptation was too great—I was in distress"—he seemed in a great deal of trouble, and only had two or three halfpence about him.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. He gave you some account of himself? A. Yes—I did not inquire into the truth of it.

JOHN MEAD . I assisted in taking him in charge. As we were locking him up, I said, "I must search you"—he said, "You have no occasion to do that," and gave me up this sheet.

WILLIAM WRIGHT re-examined. These are my property. He paid me 1s. 6d., or 2s.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you see him in custody? A. I did; and from his behaviour I think it must have been his first offence—I believe he was in temporary distress.

(Samuel Murdoch, plumber, Clerkenwell-green; sad Jease Dalby, clerk to a solicitor, Cannon-street-road, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 24.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Three Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-491
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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491. WILLIAM ISAACS was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of January, 1 saddle, value 2l. 12s., the goods of William Chequer.

JOHN GROVES . I am shopman to Mr. Duffield, a saddler, in Long-lane. On the 30th of January the prisoner came to the door—I asked him his business—he asked me to buy a saddle—I said, "I will if it suits us—come in"—he came in, and asked 25s. for it—I asked whew he lived—he said in Redcross-street, and that be bought it last summer; but now had no further use for it—Mr. Chequer had sent word to us about it, and as it answered the description, I detained him, and sent for Mr. Chequer, who owned it.

WILLIAM CHEQUER . I am a saddler, and live in Stamford-street, Black-friars'-road. On Friday morning I lost this saddle from the front of my shop—I gave information to Duffield—I had seen it on the rails, in front of my shop, on the 30th of January, about a quarter-past nine o'clock in the morning—I know nothing of the prisoner—it was worth two guineas and a half.

CHARLES CHAMBERS . I am a policeman. Groves gave the prisoner into my charge, with this saddle.

GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined Three Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-492
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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492. JOHN HIBBERT was indicted for stealing, on the 7th of January, 1 handkerchief value 2s., the goods of McKedy Major, from his person.

MCKEDY MAJOR . About twelve o'clock on the 7th of January, I was in Aldgate. I felt my pocket, as a crowd was passing, and missed my handkerchief—I looked round, and seeing the prisoner skulking along the

wall, and looking behind, I pulled him from the wall, and the handkerchief dropped from him, between him and the wall—this is it.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Was there not a lady speaking to him at the time? A. Not that I observed—a woman came and said several persons were about, and she was not aware that he was guilty—the handkerchief dropped between him and the wall—I did not see it in his hand—there was nobody immediately connected with him—the crowd was not dense—each party was separate—there were perhaps two or three hundred persons in the street—it is my handkerchief—I have a mark on it—I did not see it taken—the prisoner was walking, and looking about him.

COURT. Q. Was there any body near him who could have dropped it? A. There was not.

Prisoner's Defence. I was a yard or two from the wall—a number of people were round me—I was driven against the wall by the prosecutor, and used in a shameful manner by him.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-493
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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493. CHARLES WEBSTER was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of January, 1 dead pig, value 20s., the goods of Thomas Hatton and another.—2nd COUNT. For stealing 52lbs. of pork.

THOMAS HATTON . I am a meat and poultry salesman in Newgate-market, and have a partner. I had six pigs delivered to me for sale on the 29th of January—about half-past five o'clock the next morning, my son gave me information, and one was gone—it weighed fifty-two pounds—it was a dead pig, which is called a porker.

CHARLES SELBOURN . I watch the market. On the night of the 29th, I saw six pigs at the prosecutor's premises—a man gave me information—I went and missed one pig—I went as far as the bottom of Holborn-hill—I found the prisoner in the watch-house, with the pig—there was a ticket inside the pig, with the name of Franklin on it.

THOMAS BATTON . On Friday morning, 30th of January, about twenty minutes to three o'clock, I was calling the time up Robin Hood-court, and observed the prisoner coming down the steps with something on his shoulder—I am a watchman—he saw my lantern, and shyed from me, and turned back—I followed, and took him—he had got a dead pig covered with a coat.

THOMAS HATTON re-examined. The pig came from Franklin's.

(The prisoner put in a written defence, stating that he was intoxicated, and had bought the pig in Newgate-street for 5s.)

(Joseph Perkins, carpenter, Ship-yard; James Clark, publican, Richmond-street; Robert Hamly; and Sarah Willet, deposed to his good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 32.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-494
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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494. CHARLES WELLS was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of January, 1 handkerchief, value 1s., the goods of James Henry Frederick Lewis, from his person.

JAMES HENRY FREDERICK LEWIS . I am a solicitor. Last Saturday week I was going over London-bridge with my sister—there was an obstruction in the road, which made me pause—I felt a tug at my pocket, turned round, and collared the prisoner, seeing my handkerchief in his

hand—he gave my hand a blow, which loosened my hold, and away he ran—a woman got in the way—I saw a witness following the prisoner—I immediately followed, and met the witness returning with him—I gave him in charge—here is the handkerchief.

CHARLES OSLER OWEN . I was passing over the bridge, and saw the prosecutor being stopped by an obstruction—I saw him turn hastily round—I turned round, and saw the prisoner throw the handkerchief from his hand on the ground—the gentleman took it up, and collared him—he knocked his hand away, and ran off—I ran, and secured him, and brought him back.

Prisoner's Defence. I was going over the bridge—the gentleman came to a waggon which had broken down—I just stopped—he turned round in a great passion, and collared me—I put up my arm, and said, "Don't collar me, I have done nothing"—the handkerchief laid about two yards from me—I never touched his pocket—I had witnesses to prove it, but they would not let me get at them.

GUILTY . † Aged 20.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-495
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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495. GEORGE BROWN was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of January, 1 handkerchief, value 2s., the goods of John Frederick Wittock, from his person.

JOHN FREDERICK WITTOCK . I am a merchant. On the 21st of January, I was on Ludgate-hill between four and five o'clock—I did not feel my handkerchief taken, but a young man told me of it, and I saw the prisoner secured—another person handed my handkerchief over to me—this is it.

THOMAS FORDHAM . I am a porter. I was on Lndgate-hill, and saw the prisoner and another—the other one picked the gentleman's pocket, and passed the handkerchief over to the prisoner—I asked the gentleman if he had lost his handkerchief—he said, "Yes"—I ran and took the prisoner in Pilgrim-street—he threw the handkerchief down on the threshold of a door—I picked it up—I am certain he is the person—he had run about two hundred yards.

Prisoner. I was out of his sight once. Witness. He was not out of my sight at all.

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Six Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-496
VerdictsNot Guilty > unknown

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496. THOMAS HORABIN was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of December, 7 knives, value 6s. 6d.; and 6 forks, value 2s. 6d.; the goods of John Dobby, his master; and ANN WATSON was indicted for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing them to have been stolen.

JOHN DOBBY . I am a cutler, and live in Wych-street, Strand. The male prisoner has been in my employ nearly three years—he went on errands, and cleaned the windows—Watson used to come once a week for our washing—on the 29th of December I lost some ivory-handled knives and forks—I did not miss these, but others—these were found at Mrs. Teevan's, a broker's—the male prisoner had access to them—Watson lives in Yates-court, Carey-street—none of the property in this indictment was found at her house.

MARY TEEVAN . I keep a broker's shop, in Drury-lane. On the 31st of December these white-handled knives and forks were brought to me by Watson—I had known her before, by buying furniture of her—I did not know where she lived—she said she had these knives and forks to dispose of, would I buy them—I asked who they belonged to—she said they were

her own—I said I did not like to buy such things, was she sure they belonged to her—she said, "Don't you know me? don't you recollect me?"—I said, "Not exactly"—she said, "Do you remember buying ray furniture of me when my husband died?"—I then bought them of her for 5s. 6d. or 6s.—I sent two of the knives to the prosecutor's to have forks made to match them.

JAMES KIRKBY . I am a policeman. I found the knives and forks at Teevan's—I took the female prisoner into custody—she said the knives and forks she had sold were her own, and she had had them for the last three years.

WILLIAM OWEN . I work for the prosecutor—these knives are my manufacture—I made them for Mr. Dobby—I swear to the knives, but it is impossible to swear to the forks.

JOHN DOBBY re-examined. The knives and forks were in my shop a fortnight before—I suspected the prisoner, as they are a particular sort—Watson had been to the house on the Wednesday to fetch the linen—she had no access to the shop—she came to the private door—she could not have stolen them—nobody but Horabin had access to them—the handles are different to what we usually make up—they are oval handles made square.

Horabin's Defence. The witness works at other shops as well as Mr. Dobby's—I unfortunately bought the property from a person who brought it into the shop, for my own use—the forks are my own manufacture.

Watsons Defence. I sold them, but did not know where they came from—I gave Horabin the money.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-497
VerdictsGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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497. THOMAS HORABIN was again indicted for stealing, on the 30th of December, 16 knives, value 8s.; 7 forks, value 1s.; 2 razors, value 1s.; 3 brushes, value 1s.; 3 pairs of scissors, value 3s.; 7 spoons, value 6d.; 1 cork-screw, value 1s.; 1 steel, value 6d.; 24 knife-blades, value 2s.; and 30 knife-handles, value 1s. 6d.; the goods of John Dobby, his master; and ANN WATSON was indicted for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing them to have been stolen.

JOHN DOBBY . The female prisoner had no access to my shop—she used to come to the private door for the washing, and take it away—she could not take the property away herself, it was in my shop—the male prisoner was my only shopman—he was the only person having access to the property—I missed it, and got a search-warrant, and went with the officers to the female prisoner's house, No. 4, Yates-court.

JAMES KIRKBY . I am a policeman. I went with a search-warrant to Watson's place on the 2nd of January—we began to search, and found part of this property in a box, and the rest on shelves about the room—I asked her how she came by it—she said Horabin had brought it there, and she knew nothing about it herself—I found all the articles stated in the indictment.

JOHN DOBBY re-examined. All this property is mine—some of it was jobs brought to the shop from customers.

Horabin. Q. How can you swear they are your property? I have been in the habit of buying such things at old-iron shops. A. They are the things which were in my shop—when I first took the prisoner, he had not a place to live in—I missed several oyster-knives—I had not one in my place for six weeks—Horabin lodged with Watson.

Horabin's Defence. The property never was his, nor ever in his shop—I attend Billingsgate market with old cutlery ground up afresh.

Watson's Defence. I did not know how he came by them—he brought them all at one time.



Transported for Seven Years.

There was another indictment against Horabin.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-498
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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498. DANIEL GEE was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of January, 1 decanter, value 8s., the goods of David Francis Robertson; and that he had before been convicted of felony.

JOSEPH COLLEY . I am a policeman. On the 10th of December, about ten o'clock, I met the prisoner in Broadway, Westminster—I suspected and took him into custody with this decanter in a handkerchief—I asked what he had got—he said he had got nothing—I told him I did not believe him, and should take him to the station-house—he was sixty or seventy yards from the prosecutor's house.

SUSANNA ROBERTSON . I am the wife of David Francis Robertson, and live in Portsmouth-street. We keep a picture and glass shop—this is our decanter—it was standing by the side of the window—the fellow one remains in the shop—it could not be reached without coming into the shop.

GEORGE WARD . I am a policeman. I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction, which I got from the office of the Clerk of the Peace at Westminster—(read)—I remember his being tried—I was a witness against him—he is the same person.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Fourteen Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-499
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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499. HENRY WARREN was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of January, 1 shirt, value 2s. 6d.; the goods of William Watson; and 1 shirt, value 1s. 6d.; the goods of Henry Watson.

JOHN HOLLAND . I am a policeman. On the 19th of January I was in the Kingsland-road, between six and seven o'clock in the evening—I found the gate of No. 2 open—I went in, and saw the prisoner come out of No. 1, which is the prosecutor's—he jumped over a short wall—I saw some clothes move which hung on a line—I waited till he jumped over into the garden of No. 2, where I was—I then secured him with these shirts.

ANN WATSON . I am single—these shirts belong to my brothers, William and Henry—the clothes which had been washed hung in the garden—the prisoner is a stranger.

Prisoner's Defence. I was coming by the lady's house; a drunken man coming by, gave me a push, and I went into the garden—the officer came in—the shirts laid on the grass plot further on.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Three Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-500
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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500. EVAN WILLIAMS was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of January, 1 handkerchief value 2s., the goods of Jacob Russell.

THOMAS NEWTON . I am a pawnbroker, and live in Shoreditch. I received information about twelve o'clock on the 12th of January, and went out—I saw the prisoner four or five yards from the shop, running—I called "Stop thief," and pursued him, and saw him drop this silk handkerchief—I took it up and secured him—it was taken from the door-post.

GEORGE GRAVES . I am a policeman, and have the handkerchief.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Three Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-501
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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501. JOHN WATTS was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of January,1 hat, value 5s., the goods of Mark Marks, and that he had before been convicted of felony.

THOMAS BALL . I am a bricklayer. On the 16th of January, about six o'clock in the evening, I saw the prisoner snatch a hat out of the prosecutor's window, and run away with it—I pursued him, and never lost sight of him—I collared him—he directly threw it down—I took it up, and took him back to Marks's.

MARK MARKS . This hat is mine—it was drawn out of my window, where it had hung.

WILLIAM HUNT . I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction from Mr. Clark's office (read)—I was a witness, and know him to be the man—he was tried then by the name of Giles.

GUILTY . Aged 28.— Transported for Fourteen Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-502
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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502. ROBERT COOPER was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of January, 1 handkerchief, value 3s., the goods of William John Huetson.

WILLIAM HEBERT . I am an apprentice to William John Huetson, who is a pawnbroker, and lives in the Kingsland-road. On the 10th of January, the officer brought the prisoner into our shop, with this handkerchief in his hand, which is ours.

JOHN HOLLAND . I am a policeman. On the 10th of January, between two and three o'clock, I was in the Kingsland-road, and saw the prisoner and two more go to the prosecutor's shop door—one of them unpinned the handkerchief—the prisoner put it inside the flap of his trowsers, and made off—I ran and secured him, but he got on his knees, got from me, and threw it down—he ran about thirty yards—I secured him, and the witness picked it up—the other two escaped—I found the duplicate of a pair of trowsers, but no money on him.

THOMAS CHAPMAN . I was on the other side of the way, and saw the prisoner standing by the door with the other two—one of them unpinned the handkerchief, and gave it to the prisoner, who put it in the flap of his breeches—he ran away—the officer ran after him—he fell down on his knees, and threw the handkerchief away—I took it up, and gave it to the officer.

Prisoner. I was in great distress at the time.

GUILTY —Aged 18.— Confined Three Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-503
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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503. JOHN CRUMPTON was indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of January, 1 handkerchief, value 2s., the goods of Edward Devereux, from his person.

EDWARD DEVEREUX . On the 23rd of January, I was in Goswell-street, between four and five o'clock in the afternoon—I felt my pocket picked—I turned round, and missed my handkerchief—I saw the prisoner going down Fann-street—I immediately went to him, and accused him of it—he said he knew nothing of it—I unbuttoned his coat, and found my handkerchief there, between his jacket and waistcoat.

Prisoner. I picked it up, but did not know whose it was.

(Mr. Morris, straw-hat manufacturer, Bartholomew-close, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 13.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Fourteen Days.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-504
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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504. JOHN SELWOOD was indicted for feloniously receiving, on the 5th of January, of an evil-disposed person, 1 silver basin, value 5l.; and 1 silver tea-caddy, value 3l.; the goods of John Blagrave, Esq.; well knowing them to have been feloniously stolen.

MR. PHILLIPS conducted the Prosecution.

COLONEL JOHN BLAGRAVE . I live near Reading, in Berkshire, fortytwo miles from town. On the 5th of January, 1834, my house was broken open, and robbed of a considerable property—it was a regular burglary—I lost plate and several other articles—I lost a sugar-basin and silver tea-caddy, which I have since seen—after the robbery, I circulated an account of it, and offered a reward of 50l.—I paid about 15l. for the sugar-basin.

Cross-examined by MR. ROE. Q. Are you at all acquainted with the prisoner? A. No; I do not think I ever saw him before—he does not live in our parish, from what I could find—I have made search, but cannot find that he does—he gave hit name and address—I went there, but could hear nothing of him.

CHARLES PERPEMENT . I am shopman to Makepeace and Co., of Searl-street, Lincoln's-inn-fields. This sugar-basin is of considerable value, and the tea-caddy also—they were both made by us for the prosecutor.

JOHN TROY . I am shopman to Mr. Whiteaves, a silversmith, in Fleet-street. On the 26th of March, 1834, the prisoner came to master's house, and brought this silver sugar-basin and tea-caddy, with a silver inkstand, a folding eye-glass, and some silver coin—the whole weighed 60 ounces 2 pennyweights, which I bought of him—we put it in our window—I afterwards saw the sugar-basin and caddy in possession of the last witness—it is a remarkable sugar-basin—I never saw one like it before—I am certain it is the sugar-basin the prisoner sold us—he said he lived near Newbury, in Berks—I never knew him live in London—I knew him before—when he came in, he said, "How do you do? Here are a few articles I have to sell, which the persons in the country are necessitated to sell in consequence of the badness of the times"—in consequence of his saying that, and having bought, some articles before of him, I did not suspect him—he did not mention who the country people were—I gave him 5s. an ounce for it as old silver—he came again, on the 6th of January, to sell another quantity of plate, and we detained him on account of having had information from Makepeace—we told him we should give him into custody in consequence of our buying plate of him stolen from Colonel Blagrave—his answer was, "I am not the thief"—I said we detained him to clear our own character, as there was some imputation cast on the character of the house—I said, "I hope you will be able to clear your character"—he hesitated a good deal, and I said, "But you say nothing"—he replied, "I have enough to do to think"—we took Colonel Blagrave's arms off the plate.

Q. Did you ask the prisoner how the people who were necessitated to sell the sugar-basin happened to have arms? A. No; it did not strike me as odd—there was the crest on one side, and the arms on the other—it is usual to take the arms out—I thought he might be an honest man, and he might be sent up to sell them—he did not say they were poor people—he said people were very much distressed, and were obliged to sell it—I cannot tell what quantity of plate he brought the second time—it is in the officer's hands—I weighed the pencil-case—it was 3 ounces—there was a silver tea-pot and stand, a sauce-ladle, and table and tea-spoons—I did not weigh them—there was not time.

Cross-examined. Q. How long have you been in this shop? A. I

have been servant there twenty-two years—it is a very well known shop for the sale of plate, and coin, and old silver—we frequently get old family plate from families, and take off the arms to make it saleable—we knew the prisoner before, and thought him an honest man—we dealt with him more than once—I had no suspicion till we heard of the robbery—he did not come to the shop again for nine months—I had no suspicion, or I would not have bought them—the basin it rather a peculiar one—I never bought any article of the kind before—it is a peculiar make—5s. an ounce is the usual price, if it is not melted—if it is, it is not above 4s. 10d. an ounce—I gave him a fair market price—we had promised to detain him the next time we saw him—Mr. Whiteaves was present when he came again—he kept him in custody while I fetched the officer—it is common for things to be sold through agents—he was given in charge for the robbery of Colonel Blagrave—that was when the policeman was in the shop—I think Mr. Whiteaves said, "I shall charge the policeman with you"—I am not certain which of us said so—I think Mr. Whiteaves said he should charge the police with him, in consequence of the robbery at Colonel Blagrave's—that the plate we had bought of him was stolen—nothing was said about the robbery till the policeman came—it was about eleven o'clock in the morning—he produced the things in the open shop—the inkstand and eye-glass have been claimed by Colonel Blagrave.

COURT. Q. You bought this without asking whose arms they were? A. Yes—it is rather a singular piece of plate—at 5s. an ounce, it would come to between 6l. and 7l.—we did not buy to melt, but to sell—we gave a fair price for the whole of it.

COLONEL BLAGRAVE re-examined. My arms are very conspicuous—my crest was on one side, and the arms an the other—the articles produced are part of the property stolen on the might in question—the ink-stand was returned to me—I have not brought it here.

WILLIAM CUTTRESS . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner into custody.

WILLIAM PAYNE . I am clerk to the magistrate at Guildhall. I attended the prisoner's examination, and remember his being called on for his defence—what he said was taken down in writing, and read over to him—no threat or inducement was held out to him—I took down his defence—this paper contains it—(reads)—"The prisoner says he lives at Crooks Easton, Hampshire—he bought the two articles of a man and woman between Newbury and Hungerford, about fourteen miles from Reading about fourteen days before he offered them for sale.

COLONEL BLAGRAVE . Newbury is seventeen miles from Reading—Hampshire comes up two or three miles from Newbury.

Prisoner's Defence. I can only say I bought it, and did not know it was stolen.

GUILTY . Aged 66.— Transported for Fourteen Years.

There was another indictment against the prisoner, for receiving other property.

NEW COURT.—Tuesday, February 3, 1835.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-505
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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505. GEORGE WALKER was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of January, 1 handkerchief, value 5s., the goods of William Check Bousfield, from his person.

WILLIAM CHECK BOUSFIELD, ESQ . I live in Blackfriars-road. On the afternoon of the 14th of January, I was in Fleet-street, between four and five o'clock—I felt something touch my pocket—I turned round immediately, and missed my handkerchief—the prisoner and a lesser boy were standing close by—I saw the prisoner tucking something into his breast—they both ran away—I followed the prisoner, and saw him drop my handkerchief on the pavement—I picked it up, and still followed him—he was taken in my presence—he was never out of my sight—this is my handkerchief.

GUILTY . Aged 14.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-506
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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506. JOHN DEAGLE was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of January, 1 yard of woollen cloth, value 6s., the goods of John James Dolan and others, his masters.

The witnesses did not appear.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-507
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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507. GEORGE WEBB was indicted for stealing, on the 9th of January, 36 trusses of hay, value 4l., the goods of Edward Boards.

MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

EDWARD BOARDS . I am a fanner, and live at Edmonton. The Angel-bridge crosses the Wash, and Water-lane turns down by the side of it—my farm is opposite the Fleece—if a person went down Water-lane about half a mile, and then turned to the left down Journeyman-green, there is then a gate which was nailed up, and a bridge—if a person went through that gate, and through three meadows, and three other gates, it will lead to the back of my stack-yard—when you get to the end of the meadows there is a cow-yard, but that had not been entered—a cart had stopped at the end of the last meadow, and there turned round, about fifteen or twenty yards from where the hay was, and across the cow-yard, which was littered up with haulm—on Friday, the 9th of January, I had thirty-six trusses of hay loaded on a cart, with a new tilt over it, under the shed—it was bound, and ready for market—I saw it safe at seven o'clock that evening—at four o'clock the next morning, my man called me up, and said the hay was gone—I found the cart empty about six o'clock, and have not seen any of the hay since.

JOHN CAMP . I am constable of Edmonton. On Saturday, the 10th of January, I received notice of the loss of this hay—I went with Morison to Water-lane—I saw the track of a cart drawn by one horse—I saw it just at the corner, turning down from the high road towards the farm—the track was very recent—it went round down Journeyman-green, across the meadows—the first gate was open, and the others also—when the cart had got to the end of the meadows, it appeared to have turned round, and there were the impressions of a cart, which appeared to have gone back across the same fields, down the same lane, and turned into the road towards London—the near hind shoe of the horse which had drawn the cart appeared to have been recently turned up for roughing, and the off hind shoe had two stumps behind it—the hind shoes made different impressions—I saw nothing about the fore-shoes any more than common—Forster had some horse-shoes in his possession afterwards, which appeared to me as if they would have made the impressions I saw on the ground—I did not see them fitted to the marks.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Was it frosty weather? A. No,

it had been, but it had thawed that morning—I had not been down Water-lane the day before, but the impressions were so recent, I think they could not have been there the day before—I do not know that there had been any rain—there were not many marks down the lane, where these marks were, they were close by the sign-post—when I first went to look, I saw both the track of the cart down and up Water-lane—it is not unusual to rough the shoes of horses in frosty weather.

EDWARD BOARDS re-examined. Q. Had you been across the meadows in the course of that Friday? A. Yes—there were no marks of any cart having passed through there for months—if I had sent out my carts, I should have sent them out the front way, certainly—the impressions I saw on the Saturday morning were fresh, they had been made within a very few hours—the gates are not unnailed in the winter time—it is a private road to the marshes.

JOSEPH FORSTER . I am constable of Tottenham. I got a black blind horse, which was fetched from Ponder's-End on the 16th of January—Kirk rode it up in my presence, to the smith's shop, near the Angel at Edmonton—Belford told me it was his horse—I caused the smith to take off the off shoe behind, and the off shoe before—these are them—it was Camp's mistake, to say it was the near hind shoe, it was the front off-shoe.

JOHN CAMP re-examined. This off hind shoe corresponds with the impression I saw on the ground—the fore shoe-mark appeared the same as others, except a clip out of one of them, which is the front off-shoe which Forster has—it left a corresponding mark on the ground where the shoe is turned up.

Cross-examined. Q. Did not you say, you had not compared them with the marks? A. I did not fit them, but I saw the marks, and saw the shoes—there was nothing particular about the fore shoes but this mark.

JOSEPH FORSTER re-examined. These are the two off shoes. I fitted them to the marks—there is a piece out of this fore shoe, at the turn up, and there was this mark on the ground where there is this vacancy in the shoe—I compared them with five or six places in the meadow—the lumps on this shoe are very large and high—I think they are what a man would make for frosty weather—this front shoe did not touch the ground but at the heel and the front part—I fitted them to the marks on the 16th—I did not find any marks of any other cart having gone up and down that meadow.

COURT. Q. I suppose you will say, to the best of your belief, that the horse that had these two shoes on had been in that meadow? A. Yes.

MR. DOANE. Q. Had there been any rain that week? A. I believe there had—the ground was soft—it was ground that would retain a very evident impression of shoes of this kind—I did not make an impression with these shoes by the side of the impression I saw in the field, but I put the shoes very carefully into the impression—I do not think many shoes would have made such an impression as these did.

THOMAS BELFORD . I am a hay jobber, and live at Enfield-highway, near the new church. I job in hay and straw, and turnips—I have a black blind horse, which I lent to the prisoner for a month or five weeks—I know he had it a month—he jobs in hay and straw, and turnips—he was to pay 7s. a week for the horse—I don't know where he lives—I believe the horse stood at Edmonton—I don't know when I began to lend it to him—I cannot tell what month it was, nor whether he had it on new year's day, or in January—he had it about a month or five weeks before this hay was stolen—I heard the hay was lost—I know the prisoner had the horse then—I

saw him the Monday before the hay was lost, and told him I must have the horse home, as I had got one very bad—he said I should have it, and I had it home on the Sunday night afterwards—on Friday, January 9, I took a load of turnips to Covent-garden market—I started from Ponder's-End at a quarter before six o'clock—I got to Covent-garden a quarter before twelve, and returned between eleven and twelve o'clock on Saturday night—I had sold the turnips to pay my rent—I got a little intoxicated, and did not get home till Saturday—I saw the black horse in my stable on the Monday morning, at six o'clock—I got up on Sunday morning, and went out—I saw the prisoner, and asked him to go and have a bit of dinner, but I had had my dinner before—I had had that hone about two months—ever since Enfield fair—he had not been shod since I had him—I did not know what shoes he had on—I never lifted his foot up—I saw the horse at the time of the examination before the magistrate—it is the same that was in possession of Forster, and the same I had lent the prisoner—my attention was never drawn to the horse's shoes—I saw Mr. Board's brother at my stable—I did not threaten to bring an action against him for taking off the horse's shoes.

Cross-examined. Q. You lent the horse to the prisoner, and don't know when he brought it back? A. No.

JURY. Q. Did he tell you on the Sunday that be should bring it back? A. No.

EDWARD KIRK . I am servant to Belford. He lent the prisoner the black horse—I fetched it home on the Sunday night from Mr. Geves', at Cow-lane, Edmonton—that was the stable the prisoner used to keep it in—my master sent me for it—he was at home when I brought the horse home, and sitting in the chair by the side of the fire—I brought the cart with the horse—it was John Bird's cart—I had orders to bring them both away—I had not heard of Mr. Board's losing his hay—I took the cart into my master's yard, and Mr. Bird afterwards had the cart—it was a narrow-wheeled cart—it would carry a load of hay—my master told me to bring it—when I got home that Sunday night, I told him I had brought the horse home—I was before the magistrate at Edmonton—Forster took the horse to Mr. Stanley, the blacksmith, and had his two shoes taken off—I did not see him do it, but I went for the horse when he had shod him again—this is the sort of hind shoe the horse wore—I had not noticed his fore shoes—I saw Mrs. Geves when I went for the horse—I told her I came from Mr. Belford.

Cross-examined. Q. Where does Mr. Geves live? A. Down Cow-lane—I do not know where the prisoner lives—he does not live there—I went into the stable and took the horse and cart away—I did not see any body there—I found no difficulty in getting the horse and cart away—if my brother had gone, he would have got it.

COURT. Q. Where was the prisoner when you went? A. I do not know—he had been at my master's, while we had our dinner, between one and two o'clock; me and my other fellowship mate, and my mistress and the children—my master was gone out—Mr. Geves's is about three miles from my master's—I had seen the prisoner using the hone during the month, three or four times—I never saw it used by any body else.

JOSEPH FORSTER re-examined. It was a narrow-wheeled track I saw.

MARY GEVES . I am the wife of Joseph Geves. He lives in Cow-lane, Edmonton, and is a labourer—there is a stable attached to our house—my husband lost his horse, and let the stable to George Webb—I remember

his keeping the horse and cart there—it was a dark-coloured horse—I do not know whether it was blind—it had been three weeks or a month in the stable—on Saturday, the 10th of January, he came home with the horse and cart early in the evening—I cannot say the hour—it might be between six and seven o'clock—I saw him when he came—the cart was empty, to my knowledge—I did not see any thing in it—I saw him afterwards—he came into the yard before the horse was put up—I did not observe the cart before it was backed into the shed—I did not observe any hay about the wheels—I did not take that notice—I was in my house—my window looks into the yard—it was not open—I can see the high road—I do not know whether the cart came from London—it came down a lane to our yard—after he had put up the horse, be came and paid me 3s. for three weeks' hire of the stable—he had not paid me any thing before—he did not take the money from his pocket—he had it in his hand when he came in, and laid it on the table—my house has a passage right through it—I saw Kirk the next day—he had the horse and cart—I did not hinder him—I do not know who the cart belonged to—I never took notice whose name was on it—but the prisoner hired the stable, and brought the horse and cart there—Webb had the cart in and out as he liked—I do not know where it was on the Friday night—I do not know whether it was at home—I do not know whether it was there at all on Friday—it was there on Wednesday—Webb took it away himself, but I do not know when—he took it out when it was taken—he was the person who had it out last.

Q. How came you to let Kirk have it? A. I do not know—I did not trouble myself who took the horse and cart away—the stable was not locked—I am sure the horse and cart were at home on Wednesday, and the last time it went out was with Webb.

JURY. Q. Was Webb to pay you the rent weekly? A. Yes; I had not asked him for it—he came and paid the 3s. that day—he said he might want the stable for three or four weeks.

Cross-examined. Q. When he had had it three weeks he paid you? A. Yes; I did not go to the stable with Kirk—the stable was not locked, any person might take the horse and cart without my assistance—I saw Webb with the cart on Wednesday—I am not sure that I saw him with it after Wednesday—I did not see him take it out, I cannot charge my memory with having seen Webb take it out after Wednesday, I saw him bring it home on Wednesday, and I did not see him take it out after that.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. What time in the day on Wednesday did it come home? A. I am sure I do not know—I was with my children, and did not take notice.

Q. Upon your solemn oath, about what time did the cart come home on Wednesday? A. It was in the evening, I should think—he never hardly came home till the evening—I saw it go out on Wednesday, and I saw it come home in the evening—Webb brought it home on Saturday, but I do not know how long it had been out—I did not see him take it out.

Q. You told me the last time it went out, Webb took it; when was that? A. The last time I saw it, was on Wednesday—I did not see Webb fetch it after that, to my knowledge—it was out, because it was not in the yard—I was in the yard on Thursday and Friday, and it was not there, but I do not know how it got out—he might take it at any time—he brought it home on Saturday, he did not say where he had been—no one but Webb used it during the month.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. You have stated that he could get it at any time, could any body else get it? A. Yes.

COURT. Q. Did you see any body but Webb take it at any time? A. No, not till Kirk took it—I did not know Kirk, and he did not speak to me.

JAMES HENRY SHADBOLT . I keep the Horse and Groom at Edmonton. On Friday, the 9th of January, I employed the prisoner to fetch some coals for me, and he had my horse and cart—he afterwards fetched some coke with his own horse and cart—his was a black horse—I did not know it was blind, till the evening—the last time I saw it, was at a quarter or twenty minutes before eleven o'clock at night—that was when he had done what he had to do for me—my house is about half a mile from Mr. Board's farm, and about a quarter of a mile from the Angel bridge—his cart was a narrow-wheeled cart—I saw the blind black horse at the time of the examination before the magistrate—it was the one he had at work for me that day.

DANIEL ROWLEY . I sometimes go by the name of Cripps—I am ostler at the Two Brewers, Ponder's-End, in the parish of Enfield. I saw the prisoner before the magistrate, on the 16th of January—I remember the Monday before that, I had seen the prisoner at the Two Brewers that day, between twelve and one o'clock—I cannot tell when I had seen him before—I cannot tell whether I had seen him within a fortnight—if I had seen him within a day or two, I should have recollected it, but I cannot tell when I had seen him last—I cannot say whether I had seen him for several days before that Monday, the 12th of January—I live at my master's, Mr. Bennett's, and sleep at his stable—I cannot tell when the prisoner had slept with me, to speak the truth.

Q. Upon your oath, had he slept with you within a week of Monday, the 12th of January? A. I cannot tell—he slept with me several different times—I cannot say when was the last time.

Q. Where did you sleep on Friday night, the 9th? A. I never sleep on Friday nights at all—the prisoner did not sleep with me that Friday night—I did not go to bed—he might have got into the room—I went to bed about four or five o'clock on Saturday morning—there are two rooms and two bedsteads, one in each room—but only one bed, that is in the further room—I sleep where the bed is—I did not find Webb in either of the rooms—Mr. Watson had been sleeping on my bed, because I called him up between twelve and one o'clock—there was nobody in bed with him then—I do not know what time Mr. Watson went to bed—I saw him about eight o'clock on Friday night.

Q. Where were you about twelve o'clock that night? A. On my master's, premises, on business—I cannot tell exactly where—I did not see the prisoner, I am quite sure—I know a man named Picket—he was not there that night—I was in my own bed between seven and eight o'clock on Saturday morning—I never saw the prisoner that morning.

JOHN TOMBLIN . I am ostler at the Weavers' Arms, Newington-green—it is in the main road from Edmonton to London. I saw the prisoner at the Weavers' Arms, between ten and eleven o'clock on Saturday—he had a black horse and a narrow-wheeled blue cart, with the name of "Black," or "Bird," on it—he was coming from London, and stopped and had some refreshment.

JAMES CORDELL . I live at Ball's Pond, which is nearer to London than Newington-green. I saw the prisoner at the Weavers' Arms, on Saturday, the 10th of January, with a horse and cart—he went away between three

and four o'clock, with his horse and cart, and went towards Newington-green.

JOSEPH FORSTER re-examined. I should think it would take a man about an hour to get from there to Mr. Geves's, with a horse and cart.

GEORGE WALLIS . I am a watchman on the turnpike-road at Edmonton. On Friday night, the 9th of January, I was looking after Mr. Knight's premises, and saw the prisoner with a horse and empty cart, going towards Edmonton-bridge—it was a dark-coloured horse, and a black-coloured cart—it had a tail-ladder and copse—the tail-ladder was fixed in behind, and the copse stood up inside the cart—they were going in a direction towards the prosecutor's—it was ten minutes or a quarter before twelve o'clock.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you know Mrs. Geves? A. Yes; it was going towards her premises.

JOHN CAMP re-examined. I was present before the justices on the examination of the prisoner on this charge—I saw him put his mark to this statement, and the magistrates put their names—it was read over to the prisoner, and I signed it as a witness—this is the examination—it was written by Mr. Sawyer, who is here (read.)

"The prisoner having heard the charge, and being cautioned not to say any thing that might criminate himself, and being asked whether he is guilty or not guilty, says, I am not guilty. He further says, On Friday, the 9th of January, instant, I was employed by James Henry Shadbolt, of the Horse and Groom, Edmonton, to cart a load of coals from Wick's-ferry to his house—I delivered them about twelve o'clock—I brought them with Mr. Shadbolt's horse and cart—I then had my dinner, and went to fetch a chaldron of coke from the gas-house on the left hand side of Kingsland-road, which I fetched with my own black blind horse, hired of Thomas Belford, and a cart hired of John Bird—I delivered the chaldron of coke at Mr. Shadbolt's, about ten o'clock at night—Mr. Shadbolt gave me, and three other men, five pints of beer—I left between ten and eleven o'clock—nearer eleven than ten—I then took the horse and cart to Thomas Belford's yard, at Enfield-highway—I saw a boy at Belford's—I believe he works for Belford—I put the horse up myself and left the cart in the yard—I left, and came back to the Two Brewers, at Ponder's End—I got there about twelve o'clock—I went to bed in Daniel Cripps's, the ostler's, bed—he was in the yard—I saw him—I also saw a man of the name of Picket, who works in the yard—I got up between seven and eight o'clock the next morning, and went to the Queen's Head, at Wormley, a distance of about seven miles, where I arrived about one o'clock—I staid there three hours, and had three pints of beer—I then returned to Richard Broadstock's house, at Ponder's End, where I slept—I went to bed about nine o'clock—on the following morning, Sunday, I got up about seven or eight o'clock—I went to the Black Horse, at Enfield-highway, after breakfast—I staid there till three o'clock in the afternoon with Mr. Bennett, the ostler—I afterwards went to Thomas Belford's, and had tea with him and his wife, where I stopped till between four and five o'clock—no one else was there—I then returned to Richard Broadstock's, where I slept—I got up on Monday morning between eight and nine o'clock—I went to Mr. Shadbolt's about eleven o'clock, having heard at Ponder's End, that I was blamed for stealing the load of hay from Mr. Board's, to hear further about it—I was told by the ostler, that the officers were after me; in consequence of hearing that I stopped at Shadbolt's till about two o'clock—I then went by the coach

driven by Thomas Webb, as far as Kingsland-gate, and walked to Islington for two bottles of rum for Mr. Broadstock, for which I paid 3s. 8d.—I then returned by the same coach to Mr. Shadbolt's, the Horse and Groom.

"The mark of X George Webb."

"Taken before us,

James Eykin—C. R. Mores.

GUILTY . Aged 29.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-508
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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508. WILLIAM JONES was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of January, 3 pairs of trowsers, value 3l., the goods of Alexander Goodbody, and that he had before been convicted of felony.

ALEXANDER GOODBODY . I am a tailor, and live on Ludgate-hill. On the 21st of January, the prisoner came into my shop—he stole from the rod in my shop three pairs of trowsers—it was about half-past eight o'clock—he ran out, and I pursued—he then dropped two pairs of trowsers—the officer stopped him in my presence—he had dropped one pair on the step of the door.

JOHN MURPHY (police-constable G 215.) I was on private duty—I heard the alarm, and turned, and took the prisoner—I did not see him drop any thing—the prosecutor came up, and said he had stolen the trowsers from his shop.

WILLIAM HOWARD . I am an officer of St. Bride's. I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction—(read)—I know he is the man.

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-509
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment; Imprisonment

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509. GEORGE EARLY and GEORGE JULLION were indicted for stealing, on the 8th of January, 3 loaves of bread, value 1s.; and 32 lbs. of flour, value 5s.; the goods of Thomas Hedderwick.

THOMAS HEDDERWICK . I am a baker, and live at Romney-terrace, Horseferry-road, Westminster. Early has been my foreman thirteen or fourteen months—the policeman produced a four-pound brick to me—I compared it with the other bread which I had—it was my bread—here is the one that came from it—it was joined to this in the oven—I saw the flour at the station—there were about thirty-two pounds of flour, allowing five pounds for the sack—I believe it was my flour—I could not swear to it—I had sacks of flour at home, which correspond with it—I could not miss it.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Is there any thing peculiar in your flour? A. No, nor in the bread—these two loaves do not quite fit now—they were both that morning's baking—I had not put them into the oven—I matched them at the station, and before the magistrate—I am prepared to say positively, that these two loaves were baked together—they fitted exactly—I can swear they were in the oven at the same time.

WILLIAM MARSH . I am the prosecutor's servant. About half-past six o'clock in the morning, on the 8th of January, I heard a tap at the bakehouse window—Early said, "Here is George come"—we both went up stairs together—Early opened the door, and I saw Jullion—I went out—when I returned, Jullion was in the bakehouse with Early—I did not hear what they said—I do not know how long Jullion staid—I was doing my work—Jullion took a handkerchief out of his hat, and put two of my master's loaves into it—he took them out of the bakehouse—I did not see him afterwards—I had seen him there twice before, and Early gave him some

broken bread—Early said, on the 8th of January, that he had given Jullion a stale split round loaf—these are bricks.

Cross-examined. Q. Early said he had given him a loaf? A. Yes—but I saw Jullion take two—I cannot say whether they were half-quartern or quartern—what I saw Jullion take were loaves—these are quartern bricks—he took them from the corner of the board—I was at the other side of the bakehouse—I am sure I saw him take two—I did not give him permission to take two—I said nothing to him—I did not say any thing about my wages to him, nor to any one—I told Early, my wages were not enough, and I would not stop—I said nothing to Jullion about it—Early was not there when he took the loaves—I did not think it odd that he should take them—I had seen him there before—I did not like to tell my master.

COURT. Q. Though you call this a brick, it is a loaf of bread? A. Yes, I cannot distinctly swear what I saw Jullion take—there might have been one brick—it was after he took them, that Early said he had given him a round split loaf—I did not tell Early that he had taken two loaves—I do not know how Early came to tell me that; he said so when he came into the bake-house—he was not in the bakehouse when Jullion took the loaves—when the tap came at the window, Early said, "Here is George come"—I said, "I must go with my small bread," which I did.

JOSEPH COLLEY (police-constable B 131.) I met Jullion in Strutton-ground, Westminster, about seven o'clock in the morning, on the 8th of January—he had a bag on his shoulder, and a bundle in his hand—I asked him what he had got—he said, some bread and flour, belonging to his master, and he was going to a customer close by—I said I should go with him—he then said it was a long way off—I told him I did not believe him, and should take him into custody—I found this quartern brick on him, and two half-quartern round loaves, all new and warm; and this flour and sack.

THOMAS HEDDERWICK . I believe this flour to be mine. The sack belongs to Mr. Hooper, who supplies me.

WILLIAM MARSH re-examined. The flour was kept in the flour-room, which joins the bakehouse—I did not see Jullion go into the flour-room, nor see Early go into that room that morning—I saw Jullion go out of the bakehouse—he had no flour on his back then—the bakehouse is under the shop—I do not know which way Jullion got out.

JURY. Q. Had he to pass the flour-room when he left the bakehouse? A. Yes; he might have gone into that room and I not see him—when Early said he had given him a stale loaf, I said, "Where did you get it?" he said, "Out of the shaving-hole"—that is not where we put loaves, but he said he had put it there the day before.

(Jullion put in a written defence, stating that Early had given him the articles to carry for him. Alexander Bean, baker, of Aylesbury-street; Edward North, coffee-house keeper; and Mr. Ranford, baker, of Lisson-grove, gave Early a good character.)

EARLY— GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined One Year.

JULLION— GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined Six Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-510
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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510. WILLIAM DAYTON was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of January, 1 writing-desk, value 3l. 13s.; 1 work-box, value 10s.; 1 ruler, value 12s.; 1 cigar-tube, value 3s.; 1 needle-sharpener, value 3s.; 130 steel-pens, value 8s.; 1 pen-knife, value 5s.; 1 needle-case, value 3s.;1 measure, value 8s.; and 2 shillings; the goods and monies of John Nicholson, in his dwelling-house.

JOHN NICHOLSON . I am clerk at a distillery in St. John-street, Clerkenwell. The prisoner had worked there, but was discharged about three months before—I had a work-box, and writing-desk, containing the articles stated—they were safe at three o'clock on the 6th of January, in the front parlour—they were both locked—I value them at £6, but there were papers in them of more value to me—they cost me a great deal more than £6, and I would give £6 for them—I was sent for at a quarter before four o'clock that day—the property was then gone.

ELLEN NICHOLSON . I am the prosecutor's wife. I was coming home a little before four o'clock, and saw the prisoner on the step of the street-door with the desk under his left arm—I saw the end of it—I did not say any thing to him, but I rang the bell, to ascertain from the servant whether the had given him the desk—he then ran off down the street—I am sure he is the man—I did not see him with the work-box, but they were both missing.

ELIZA DAVY . I am the prosecutor's servant. On the 6th of January the prisoner came to the door—I looked up the area, and he asked for Mrs. Nicholson—I said she was not at home—he then asked for a blue coat—I went up and opened the door—he said he came from Mr. Nicholson for a coat, but he was not certain whether it was blue or black, but he would go and inquire—he went back, came again, and said it was a blue coat which was up stairs—I went up stairs for it, and when I came back he was gone—this writing-desk and work-box were both gone from the front parlour—another man might have taken the box.

THOMAS LOWE (police-constable G 84.) I took the prisoner out of Mr. Nicholson's stable on the 8th of January—I found this crow-bar in the corn-bin.

GUILTY of stealing under the value of 5l. Aged 20.

Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-511
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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511. JAMES DAVIS was indicted for stealing, on the 7th of January, 2 coats, value 3l., the goods of James Hall.

JAMES HALL . I am a veterinary surgeon, and live in Theobald's-road. I had two coats on the 7th of January on the back of Mr. Pratt's horse, in Gray's Inn-lane—I had gone there to rough nail his horses—I saw the prisoner come into the stable—it was between six and seven o'clock in the morning.

MICHAEL CONNELL . I am ostler at Mr. Pratt's, and the prisoner was employed there. The prosecutor came to shoe the horses—I did not see the prisoner come in, but I saw him go out with a bundle under his arm—I said, "Davis, where are you going?"—he said, "Just round the corner for one of the men,"—he got round the corner and ran—I went and inquired if the man had sent him any where—he said, "No,"—I then ran after him nearly half-a-mile—I lost him in Leather-lane—I then came back and heard that Mr. Hall had lost his coats.

ALFRED OAKSHOTT . I work in Charles-street, Hatton-garden. On the morning of the 7th of January, about half-past seven o'clock, I went down the yard to the workshop—I saw a short man, very like the prisoner, on the wall, and in the yard I found this coat.

(Properly produced and sworn to.)

MICHAEL CONNELL re-examined. The prisoner ran in the direction of Charles-street.

Prisoner's Defence. I know nothing about this coat—I had an old black coat on my arm—I was going down to Northampton.

GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined One Year.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-512
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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512. FREDERICK RUVIALLE was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of January, 1 cloak, value 3l., the goods of Owen Lewis. 2nd COUNT, stating it to belong to Henry Pearce.

(The prisoner being a Spaniard, bad the evidence explained to him by an interpreter.)

OWEN LEWIS . I reside at the Four Swans Inn, Bishopsgate-street, when I am in London—I was there on the 22nd of January—I left this cloth cloak in my bed-room, about half-past nine o'clock, on the second tier in the gallery.

MICHAEL STONE . I was at the Four Swans on the 22nd of January, between one and two o'clock, and saw the prisoner come into the coffee-room—I am sure he is the man—he took hold of one of the papers, but while he had it in his hand he was constantly looking over the top of it, as if to watch some one—he sat there till about five minutes past two o'clock—I then missed him, and saw him coming down stairs with a blue cloak on—he had come in without a cloak—I sent the porter to watch him.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. There are a great number of refugee Spaniards in London? A. No doubt there are—I had never seen the prisoner before—I was not more than a yard from him when he came down with the cloak on, but he jumped down two stairs, and went into the yard—I was attending to my business—he had not asked me for any wine—he asked the other waiter for some.

COURT. Q. Did it not excite your suspicion to see him look over the top of the paper? A. Yes—when he came down with the cloak on, I had a dinner in my hand, and was going into the parlour.

ALFRED DOWLING . I am waiter at the Four Swans. I was in the coffee-room, and saw the prisoner come in—I am sure he is the man—he had no cloak on then—he asked me for a glass of Port in English, and I brought it to him—he asked how much it was—I said 6d. and he gave it me—I saw him for some time afterwards, in the coffee-room—he kept reading the paper, and occasionally going to the waiter's box where I was cleaning the plate—I at last said, "I should like to know what you want here"—he made no answer, but walked away to the middle of the coffee-room, and I saw no more of him till I heard he was gone off with the cloak—he spoke good English—I afterwards went to the Marlborough Head, and found him and the cloak there.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you tell the magistrate all you have told to-day? A. Yes, and it was taken down, read over to me, and signed by me—but all that I said was not taken down—I do not recollect that it was taken down, that I said to the prisoner, "What do you do here?"——I did not notice that omission, as I thought they knew better what to put down than I did—I was desired to attend to what was read, and tell them whether it was correct—I am sure I stated it, and I am sure the prisoner is the man—he had a blue coat on, which was buttoned close up—he spoke good English—I did not take him for a foreigner—I told the magistrate the cloak was found in a dark place, in the waiter's box, at the Marlborough Head—I went there and found him in the coffee-room, and a number of gentlemen—I pointed him out to the policeman, but I did not speak to him, the other waiter did—I did not understand what the prisoner

said there, be spoke some foreign language—he spoke such good English in the Four Swans, that I took him for an Englishman, and when I heard him speak a foreign language in the other house, I thought he was a foreigner—Mr. Roach, a merchant, was in the coffee-room when he asked me for the wine—I went from the plate box to the bar to get the wine, but I did not leave the plate unprotected—I could see through the glass to the box—the prisoner looked over the plate-box, and I wait back as soon as I saw him.

THOMAS PEARCE . I am porter at the Four Swans. On the 22nd of January, about two o'clock, I saw the prisoner come down the stairs with a blue cloak on—that was the first I saw of him—Stone told me to follow him, and said he had a cloak which he had no business with—I followed—I lost sight of him as he turned round the corner to go into the street—I then ran after him, and saw him at the corner of the Green Dragon gate-way—I know he was the person, because he kept continually looking back, and I had seen him coming down the stairs at the Four Swans—I saw his features—I followed him to the Marlborough Head, and stopped there till I sent to the under-waiter, who came and sent for an officer—we went in and found the prisoner in one corner of the room—he said something in a foreign language—this is the cloak, it was found in the waiter's box as you go in.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you not state before the Alderman that you never lost sight of him? A. I do not know whether I said so or not—I lost sight of him as he turned—I said so, and I believe it is down in my deposition—I believe I read over what was taken down—I do not think it was correct in all parts—I swore to it—I did not see but that it was correct—I do not know whether it was exactly—to the best of my knowledge, it was in the deposition that I lost sight of him—I did not see him go into the room at the Marlborough's Head—the room is a good way back—I suppose that is a hundred yards from the Four Swans—he was walking fast—I could have overtaken him by running, if he had not gone into the Marlborough Head.

(Witnesses for the Defence.)

FREDERICK BACON . My father keeps the French Hotel in St. Paul's Church-yard. The prisoner was three weeks living at our hotel in the last year, and he has been there since—I saw him daily while he was there—he always spoke French or Spanish—he cannot speak English.

JURY. Q. Could he say "port" in English? A. No; he could say Yes," but no other word.

JOHN MOREE . I am an importer of Swiss and French goods. I have seen the prisoner at Mr. Bacon's house—I have dined with him—he always spoke Spanish—I never heard a word of English from him.

ANN CRESWICK . I am servant at Mr. Bacon's. I have seen the prisoner there for five or six days together—he cannot speak English—we could hardly make him understand by signs—I never heard him speak a word of English.


OLD COURT.—Wednesday, February 4th, 1835.

Third Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-513
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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513. THOMAS McDONELL was indicted for that he, on the 20th of January, at St. Mary-le-Bow, feloniously did forge a certain order for the payment of money, which is as follows:—"No. 5, Lombard-street, London, January 10th, 1835. Messrs. Smith, Payne, and Smith, pay Mr. Carly, or bearer, 13l. 14s. William Ellis:" with intent to defraud George Smith and others.—2nd COUNT. Feloniously uttering, disposing of, and putting off a like forged order, well knowing it to be forged, with like intent.—2 other COUNTS, calling the forged instrument, a warrant for payment of money.—4 other COUNTS, stating his intent to be to defraud William Ellis.—8 other COUNTS, omitting to set out the forged instrument; to which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Transported for Life.

The prisoner also pleaded guilty to another indictment for forging and uttering an order for the payment of 87l. 12s., with intent to defraud the same parties.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-514
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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514. WILLIAM LAYTON was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of January, 1 pocket-book, value 6d.; and 1 sovereign; the goods and monies of William Henry Bendel, from the person of Elizabeth Bendel.

ELIZABETH BENDEL . I am the wife of William Henry Bendel. I was at Billingsgate market, on the 29th of January, with my husband, about a quarter to six o'clock in the morning—I had a pocket-book in my side pocket, with one sovereign in it—it was quite dark—there was plenty of gas-light—I felt my shawl moved, as if somebody wag cutting it—I looked round three or four times, and saw the prisoner standing behind me—I was very busy purchasing fish—I moved aside, for him to go on, thinking it strange he should stand behind me—he walked on—I felt and missed my pocket-book—it could not have dropped—I called to my husband, and told him—he followed him to St. Mary's-hill—the prisoner had another man with him—as soon as he got to the dark part of the hill, he pulled out the pocket-book, and showed it to the other man—my husband stepped forward, and put his hand on the book, but by some means he wrenched it from him, and threw it over his shoulder—the sovereign fell out of it—this is the pocket-book and sovereign.

WILLIAM HENRY BENDEL . I was at Billingsgate with my wife, I was standing at another stall—she called me—I went to her, and followed her across Thames-street—she pointed out the prisoner, and said he or his colleague had taken her pocket-book—I walked up St. Mary's-hill, and overtook them—the prisoner had the pocket-book in his hand—I put my finger on it, and said, "You have got my book"—he said, "How came it your book?"—I said, "Come back with me"—we walked a few paces—he then threw it over his shoulder—the sovereign rolled out—I let go of him, and took it up—he was seized immediately, and taken to the watch-house—I am certain he is the man.

Prisoner's Defence. I was coming in a direction towards St. Mary's-hill, not going from it—I was not in the market that morning.

GUILTY . Aged 32.— Transported for Fourteen Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-515
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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515. GEORGE ROBINSON was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Maria Newby, on the 7th of January, and stealing therein 2 images, value 2s. 6d., her goods.

JAMES NEWBY . I am the nephew of Maria Newby, who is a pawnbroker, in Drury-lane, in the parish of St. Martin-in-the-Fields. On the 7th of January, between twelve and one o'clock, information was given that a window was broken—I missed two china ornaments—I went out, and overtook the prisoner

forty or fifty yards off, down a court, with them—these are them—the window was not broken before.

CHARLES PRICE . I was in Drury-lane. I saw the prisoner break Mrs. Newby's window with his hand—he took out two images—I went and told Mr. Newby.

Prisoner's Defence. Being nearly deprived of my sight, I was obliged to leave a situation at Messrs. Hall and Beck's, Piccadilly, where I had been nearly fourteen years—I was under the care of Mr. Alexander, the oculist, and was obliged to part with every thing for my support—on the afternoon in question, Mr. Alexander informed me the sight of one eye was entirely lost, and nothing but the greatest care would restore the other—being in a state of destitution, and fearing I should never get my living, I adopted this course, to be in prison for the remainder of my life, in order to be supported—I have friends well off, but they are not in England—my real-name is Charles Budlow.

GUILTY . Aged 34.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined One Year.

Before Mr. Justice Patteson.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-516
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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516. ROBERT ADAMS was indicted for feloniously assaulting William Champion, on the 19th of January, at Hammersmith, putting him in fear, and taking from his person, and against his will, 1 watch, value 2l.; 1 watch-ribbon, value 1d.; and 1 seal, value 2l.; his property.

WILLIAM CHAMPION . I live at North Brixton. I was at Hammersmith on the 19th of January—I recollect being near the post-office that morning, between eleven and twelve o'clock, putting a letter in—I heard the cry of, "Here is the procession of Mr. Hume"—there was no crowd near me, and I thought I would stop to see the procession, but in a minute or two there was a large rush of men at the head of the procession, which inclosed me—they came all round me—I felt some motion at my watch—I immediately put my hand down, and felt my watch was safe—I immediately felt another sensation of something going forward—I put my hand down that moment, and found it was drawn out of my pocket—I seized the man immediately, it was the prisoner—I seized hold of his left arm—I was to squeezed up—there was no struggle between us, till I caught hold of his arm, and called out, "He has got my watch"—he struggled very hard, and put his right hand out, clenched—I thought the watch was in it, but I cannot say it was—the carriages were coming by, and I found I should be under the wheels if I remained—I let him go—a witness ran after him, and he was brought back in custody—I am certain he is the same person as I had seized—I did not recover my watch.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. About how many persons do you suppose were round you? A. Perhaps fifty or sixty—I cannot say—I wanted to get off the moment I saw them, but was immediately surrounded—I had never seen the prisoner before, to my knowledge—when the watch was moved out of my pocket, I caught hold of his arm immediately—it was not more than a quarter or half a minute from the time I missed my watch till he got away from me.

WILLIAM THOMPSON . I was at Hammersmith on the 19th, in the crowd close to the prosecutor—I heard him say, "I have lost my watch," and saw him immediately lay hold of the prisoner's left arm—I am certain he is the man—I laid hold of his right hand, which he held out, and tried to feel what he had got in it; but I could not, a carriage-pole hit me, and I was obliged to let go—but I swear he is the man—I did not see any

thing in his hand; but he was squeezing his hand close—he ran under the horse's head—I went after him, and certainly lost sight of him, as I was knocked on one side—I saw him again directly, and called, "Stop thief!"—he looked round, popped under the horse's head, and a man stopped him.

Cross-examined. Q The pole of a carriage knocked you down? A. Yes; that took my attention off—there were a great many persons close to the prosecutor—I was walking down with the procession—I did not see the prisoner taken—I never saw him before.

GEORGE SMITH . I was at Hammersmith on the 19th—I saw the prosecutor take hold of the prisoner—the prisoner, and three more men before that, surrounded Mr. Champion—one of them had hold of his arm, and the prisoner knocked his hat over his eyes with his left hand, and drew his watch out with his right—Mr. Champion caught hold of him, and said, "You have got my watch"—the prisoner knocked his hat off into the road; and after that, one of his companions came up, got the watch out of the prisoner's hand, and ran away with it into the crowd—I saw him take it out of his hand—I had seen the prisoner take it out of Mr. Champion's pocket—he kept it down in front of him.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you one of the procession? A. Yes, I was going to hear Mr. Hume make a speech—I am a groom—I had nothing to do at the time—I was not in regular employ—I had left work about nine o'clock that morning—I was before the magistrate—there was not an enormous crowd—the place was rather clear—Mr. Hume was just coming down—the prosecutor was surrounded by four persons—there were not many people just at the time—not just by—I told the magistrate I saw the prisoner draw the watch out of the prosecutor's pocket—that was taken down in writing, and read over to me—I told him I saw another person take it from him—I believe it was taken down, but I am no scholar.

DAVID HENRY DOWNEY . I was in the crowd at Hammersmith close to Mr. Champion—it appeared there was a crowd round him—the prisoner came up to him, knocked his hat over his eyes, then unbuttoned his coat, and took something out—I could not see what—he put his hand down by his side—another man came up and took something out of the prisoner's hand, and ran away—the crowd was so round Mr. Champion, I could not see what was in his hand.

Cross-examined. Q. About how many people were round him? A. I cannot say—I should think about two or three dozen.

TIMOTHY WINKUP . I am a policeman. The prisoner was given into my custody by Mr. Maycock, of Hammersmith, on this charge—I found no watch on him—Mr. Champion, I believe, had given him in charge before that—I did not see him and Mr. Champion together—two men had him.

Prisoner's Defence. I know no more about the concern than a child unborn—I never saw the watch.

GUILTY of stealing from the person only. Aged 34.— Transported for Life.

Before Mr. Justice Vaughan.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-517
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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517. JOSEPH PRESTON and WILLIAM MACKAY were indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John Walford, on the 12th of January, about the hour of seven in the night, with intent to steal, and stealing therein 6 pairs of shoes, value 14s.; his goods; and that Joseph Preston had been before convicted of felony; and CATHERINE DALTON and MARY ANN AKERS for feloniously receiving 2 shoes, value 2s., part of the said goods, well knowing them to have been stolen, against the Statute, &c.

JOHN WALFORD . I am a shoemaker, and live in York-street, Westminster. About six o'clock on the evening of the 12th of January, my shop was perfectly safe—there was a crack in one pane of glass in the window, but no part of it was out—the window was full of women's shoes—it was safe at half-past six o'clock—I was at work in the room adjoining—my attention was called by a customer coming in, to inquire the price of some shoes in the window, about seven o'clock—I then saw the window, which was cracked before, had been broken, and six pairs of shoes were missing, which were close to the glass—the gas was lighted in the shop long before this—I gave information to the police directly, and on Tuesday morning, Ford the policeman gave me information—I saw two odd shoes at the station-house about half-past eight o'clock the next morning—I am positive they had been in my window the night before, and I had not sold them—I went with the policeman to a pawnbroker's in Vauxhall-road, and there saw another pair, which I am certain had been in my shop at six o'clock the night before—I had sold none of that description—the selling price would be 3s. a pair, or 2s. 6d., some at 2s.—I am sure the window was not broken at six o'clock—when I found it broken, a hand could be put in and take the shoes out, it was quite large enough for that.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. How do you know these shoes to have been yours? A. By the workmanship and the cut; there is no particular mark—they are not my own make, but I know the work of the man I employed to make them—it is by that I swear to them, and by my own cutting—he has made shoes for me about two years and a half, I always cut them out myself—he may have made hundreds for me—I have not sold any of exactly the same description as I lost—they were lasting fronts and leather backs—I cannot say whether I ever sold any of that sort—I have not lately, I know—I have sold several within the last two years—I left nobody in the shop—the shop door was open, a person could have walked in from the street—the shoes were about eight feet from the door—if a person came in, the counter would be between them and the shoes, they would be four feet from them—he could not reach them—I am certain nobody came into the shop—I looked at the shop every now and then—I always watch the shop—I did not hear the window broken—I suppose the glass must have been prized out—it appeared as if something had been put in at the side, in taking it out the glass was smashed—I was out of the shop about a quarter of an hour, nobody was in the shop—I should think nobody could have come into the shop—these are the two odd shoes I saw next morning—there is nothing particular about them—I have no private shop-mark on them.

COURT. Q. Was the door open leading to the shop? A. It was—the door is right opposite the window—I am certain the glass was safe when I left the shop.

WILLIAM FORD . I am a policeman. I was in York-street on the night in question, about a quarter before seven o'clock, on the opposite side of the way, eight or ten yards from the shop—I observed Preston and Mackay, and another lad, not present, all talking together, standing within a yard and a half of the window—I then went home—I did not notice the state of the window then—I know the prisoners very well—about half-past

nine o'clock my sergeant gave me information of the robbery—I went to York-street, but the shutters were shut, and I did not go into the house, as the prosecutor was gone to bed—I went and made inquiries, and in consequence of what I was told, I went to No. 4, Almonry, about one o'clock, in the morning, and apprehended Akers—I told her I wanted her for shoes which had been stolen from York-street—she said she knew nothing about any shoes—I asked her where she got the shoes she had on—she was lying on the bed with her clothes on—I took her to the station-house, and took her shoes off, and afterwards she said, if the shoes had been stolen, she knew where she got them from—she did not tell me where—I then went and apprehended Dalton, as they both lived together—I told her I suspected she knew something about some shoes stolen from York-street—she said she did not know any thing about it—I took her to the lock-up house—when she found Akers was in custody, she said Mackay had brought two pair of shoes into her room, and she gave him 18d. for one pair of them, but she had no money to buy the rest, and he took them away—I then apprehended Preston—I asked if he knew any thing about the robbery—he said he did not—I told him I had seen him standing in York-street, at a quarter before seven o'clock that evening, and that Mackay was with him—he said he was—I told him of the robbery—he said he did not steal the shoes—I took him to the watch-house—I am sure they were both there about a quarter to seven o'clock, standing opposite the prosecutor's window—I apprehended Mackay about a quarter before six o'clock in the morning, at his father's, behind Tothill-fields prison—when I told his father I wanted his son for a robbery committed in York-street, about seven o'clock or a quarter before seven, he directly said in his presence that his son had not been out so late that night; but after his son got up and came down stairs, his father said in his presence, that his son had been out crying muffins, between seven and eight o'clock that night—he denied all knowledge of the robbery—I went round to several pawnbrokers' shops, and at Cotton's, in the Vauxhall-road, I found a pair of shoes, which Walford claimed—Mackay said he was with Preston, in York-street, about seven o'clock, standing by the theatre, but had not been nearer to Walford's shop, than the Westminster theatre, which is in York-street, about fifty yards from Walford's.

Cross-examined. Q. Mackay's father opened the door to you when you knocked? A. Yes, I went to the foot of the stairs, and said I wanted his son for a robbery in York-street—his son was on the stairs at the time—he had got out of bed—I did not see him, but I heard him speak, because he answered me—he was in hearing—he was standing on the stairs at the time—I could not see him when his father said he was not out so late, as it was dark, but I could hear him—I was within three stairs of him at the time—his bed-room is up stairs—there are six or seven stairs leading to his room, I will not be sure there was not a dozen steps—I stood there till a light was brought—the son heard me mention his name, and came to the landing—I was standing on the third step, and he was on the landing—I can swear to that by his speaking to me—his mother got a light.

COURT. Q. Was it before or after the light came that he said he had been to the theatre? A. After the father said he had been out selling muffins.

JOSEPH LASH COTTON . I am a pawnbroker, and live in the Vauxhall-road. This pair of shoes were pawned with me by Preston—(I am almost certain of him)—on the 12th of January, just before we closed the shop—

we generally close at eight o'clock—I am quite certain he if the person—I lent him 1s. 3d. on them, in the name of Wilson, Garden-street, Vauxhall-road—we always ask people who bring shoes, if they are their own—they always say yes.

Q. Did not you state in your deposition that he described himself as living in Regent-street? A. I think this is Garden-street (looking at the duplicate)—it is not Regent-street.

Q. There is written on this duplicate, "John Walker, 1, Vauxhall-road," and nothing else? A. Garden-street leads out of Regent-street—I never saw him before—I was at the counter at the time they were total in—I took them in myself from him.

JOHN BABY . I am a policeman. I was in York-street on the evening of the 12th of January, about twenty minutes or a quarter to seven o'clock—I saw Mackay, Preston, and another, standing opposite the prosecutor's window, talking together—I watched them for about ten minutes, and being busy, I went away—I did not notice whether the window was sound or broken then—I returned in about three quarters of an hour, and the window was then broken—I should not have observed it if it had been broken before—the prosecutor spoke to me when I returned, and I went into the shop and looked at it.

Preston. It is a planned thing, made up between the pawnbroker and him, to swear to me.

JOSEPH LASH COTTON re-examined. Q. When you were first examined, you said you were almost sure of Preston, and afterwards, that you were quite certain? A. I beg pardon, I did not know that I did say I was quite certain.

STEPHEN WALTER UNDERHILL . I am a policeman. I heard the prisoners examined before the magistrate, and saw the examinations taken and signed by the magistrate—I was present at the office when they were brought there on the morning of the 18th of January—they were examined in my presence before the magistrate—what they said was taken down in writing, and two put their names, and two their marks—it was read over to them, and they acknowledged it to be correct after it was read (read), "The prisoner Akere says—"Dalton came in, and told me she had bought a pair of shoes for 1s. 6d., and I might have them.

"M. A. Akers."

Dalton says—"Mackay had two pair of shoes—he asked me 2s. a pair for them—I bought one pair for 1s. 6d.—he asked me to pawn a pair, but I would not.

"Catherine Dalton."

Preston says—"I was playing with a dog in York-street, but went away between six and seven o'clock—I went into Union-court, and went to bed—I was not at the pawnbroker's shop." Mackay says—"I was at home about six o'clock—I went to the Westminster theatre—I was not with Preston or the others at all."

S. W. UNDERHILL re-examined. I went with Ford to apprehend Dalton—he left her with me some time, and she denied having had possession of the shoes at all.

Preston's Defence. I was not in this boy's company that night—I was playing in York-street between six and seven o'clock, with a puppy in my hand—I then went home to my supper, and went to bed—I know Mackay by going to school with him.

Mackay's Defence. On the night before I was taken, after going out with my muffins, about ten minutes to six o'clock, I went to Westminster theatre—the policeman says he saw me there—the door was not open, and

a crowd of people were waiting at the door; and when it was open, I went in.


Before Mr. Justice Patteson.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-518
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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518. MARY SMITH was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Burn, about the hour of seven in the night of the 2nd of January, and stealing therein 2 cloaks, value 4l.; 1 coat, value 1l.; 1 time-piece, value 1l.; 1 handkerchief, value 5s.; 1 shirt, value 10s.; 1 shawl, value 2s.; his goods; 1 pair of trowsers, value 1l.; and 1 waistcoat, value 10s.; the goods of William Burn, jun.

WILLIAM BURN . I live in Little George-street, in the parish of St. Matthew, Bethnal-green. I let out the second floor room, and keep all the rest myself—there is a back and a front room on the ground floor—I am a weaver—on the evening of the 2nd of January, I was up stairs with all my family, on the third floor—there was nobody left down stairs—I was the last person that had been below—I left the doors and windows perfectly fast at as near six o'clock as possible—the windows were fastened inside—the window which was broken open has two sliding bolts, which were fastened—there is a shutter inside that, and that was put up—the doors were all fast—my son Joshua went down about nine o'clock—he was the first that went down—in consequence of what he said, I went down, and found the back window broken open—some of the glass was broken, window opened, and the shutter pulled out—I found the shutter outside in the yard—it is an inside shutter—the back door was also open, which had been fastened with two bolts inside—I found them unbolted—I missed two cloaks, a waistcoat, a pair of trowsers, a coat; and a time-piece, which had been on the mantel-piece in the front room, when I went up stairs—there was room enough for a grown-up person to get in at the window.

JOSEPH BURN . On the night of the 2nd of January, I was up stairs with my father. I went down about nine o'clock, looked round, and saw the chairs misplaced, things pulled out, and lying about the carpet—the back window and door were open—I alarmed my father and mother, who came down—I found a bolt broken off the window, and part of the window-frame—several matches had been lighted about the place, and the property missing—I went in search of the prisoner afterwards—I was present at the office on Saturday, the 3rd of January, when the prisoner was in custody—a little boy came to the door, while she was in the lock-up place—he brought her some bread and butter—he stood at the door, and gave it in—he was not let inside—he was on one side of the door, and she on the other—I stood outside, close to him—he saw me—I could hear every thing he said—there were two or three penons waiting about, within hearing—I saw her take the bread and butter from the boy, and she appeared to know him; she saw him—one of the officers shut the door, and went away—I remained there, and the boy said, "Mary, keep your spirits up, for Bob and Bill says, if it comes to any thing, they will get you counsel"—he called her Mary or Eliza—I am not now certain which it was—but afterwards one of them came and called her Eliza—but whether that boy said Mary or Eliza, I cannot say—she asked him what was done with the other things; he told her they were all put away, for they were taken to some place in Tooley-street—and said Bob had got 7s., and Bill had got 7s.,—she told him she had torn the border off the shawl, and the boy said that

was all right—he told her to keep her spirits up, for the smash was all smashed, and chucked down the cess-pool—I went away about four o'clock, and returned about six o'clock—and, about a quarter to eight o'clock, I heard William Sheen come to her, and he called her Eliza—she asked who it was—he said, "It is Bill"—and he said, "Eliza, I was surprised to hear you were taken, but never mind, keep your spirits up—when are you sent down for?"—she said, "I am sent down for Wednesday or Tuesday, I am not certain which"—he said, "Well, Eliza, do not write to us, whatever you do, or you will do us all"—she said, "Very well"—she called another by name, who was with Sheen, and said, "Take this money," and some money was shoved under the door—Sheen is a grown-up person—I understand she used to lodge with him—he was standing there, and asked if he should go and get her something, which he did—and when he went, he again told her not to write to them—I told my father, and we had him taken.

GEORGE KIRBY . I am shopman to Mr. Aaron, a pawnbroker. The prisoner came to pawn a time-piece with me on the 2nd of January, about half-past seven o'clock in the evening—she asked me 8s. on it—I said I could not lend half the money, and she went away with it—she came again next morning with a silk velvet cloak, and asked 10s. on it—I was making out the duplicate, and the prosecutor's son came in, and asked if I had seen a silk velvet cloak that morning—I said, "Here is a young woman now offering one in pledge"—we detained her—he went and got a policeman, and took her away—it was not the last witness, but another son.

CHARLES GRANT . I apprehended the prisoner at the pawnbroker's shop—he delivered me this cloak—I asked her at the station-house how she became possessed of it—she said a young man, named Jones, gave it to her in Half-Nichol-street, Bethnal-green—I asked her how he was dressed—she said he had a fustian coat—then the said, "O no, the young man who gave it to me is not there, he is in Brick-lane;" and she would not tell me any more about it.

WILLIAM BURN re-examined. This cloak is one of the articles I missed that night—it was in a drawer in the front room, just under the window that was broken open.


Fourth Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-519
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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519. JOHN JACKSON and GEORGE JACKSON were indicted for stealing, on the 10th of January, 1 sheep, value 2l. 10s., the goods of James Smith.—2nd COUNT. For killing a sheep, with intent to steal the carcass.

MR. DOANE conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS WHITE . I am shepherd to James Smith, a sheep-dealer, in Black Lion-lane, Westbourne-green. On the 10th of January I had a flock of sheep to take to the London market—I put them that afternoon in Mr. Chapman's field, at Northolt—I removed them from one to another of his fields between ten and eleven o'clock in the morning, and remained with them till between twelve and one in the afternoon, which was the last time I saw them that day—they were then all safe—there were a hundred and eighty-six of them—I went there the next morning between six and seven o'clock, and missed one Down wether sheep—we had twenty of that sort in the flock the day before—I only found nineteen—I counted them, and then searched about the field, and found the skin, with the head and neck left in it, in a field called Workhouse-field, not one-eighth of a mile from Mr. Chapman's field, where I had left it safe—it was hid in

the hedge—it was not half-way up the hedge—the entrails were by the side of it—there is no ditch to the hedge—it was hit into the bushes—I could not see it without searching—it was chucked into the brow of the bushes—on the Friday following, a young man found the meat—I saw what he found afterwards in the ditch, on Friday, the 16th—there was part of the sheep and the best part of the neck—it was in a ditch, covered over with a cloth, about half a mile from where I found the skin—there was part of the end-part, and part of the best end of the neck—I went the same afternoon (the 16th,) directly the sun went down, and watched about a dozen yards from where the meat lay—I was in the hedge, and, about half-past six o'clock, I saw the two prisoners come to the meat—John Jackson put his hand on the place where the meat lay in the ditch, and I saw him with the meat in his hand—I then jumped between them, and said, "You are the very men I have been looking for some time"—George never spoke, nor moved hand or foot; but John hung his head down—I again said, "You are the only two men I have been looking for"—John said, "The only two men—what for?"—I said, "You know as well as I do"—he said he did not—I said, "I have no occasion to wonder where our sheep is gone"—John said, "Did you see me kill the sheep?"—I told him I did not, and asked what it was he had in his hand when I jumped between them—he said he did not know what it was—I told him he must know what it was, or else he would not know how to come in the dark, at that time of night, and put his hand so particularly is that place, if he did not know what was there—he said he did not know that there was any thing particular—I said, "What is that you have got in the cloth in the ditch?" and told him he might as well tell me—he did not particularly answer me then—I said he might as well take it out of the ditch—he said he should not—I then took the meat under my arm—they walked with me till I came near Mr. Chapman's house, and then walked away—I did not trouble myself to take them, as I knew them so well; but I went and made a complaint to Mr. Still that night, and showed him the meat, and told him who the two men were—I have the skin here, and the meat—I know it well to be the skin of the sheep which was missing—I saw the meat fitted to the skin by James Hitchcock—they corresponded—I believe it is the carcass of my master's sheep.

Cross-examined by Mr. PHILLIPS. Q. Do I understand you, that the skin was half-a-mile from where the meat was found? A. Yes. James Stevens, the young man who found the meat first, is not here—he showed it to me—there is no thoroughfare through the field—I jumped out of the hedge and ran between the prisoners at once—I did not jump on them—one stood out of the ditch, and the other in the ditch—I do not think I frightened them—the meat fitted the skin—it was a four-year-old sheep—sheep are full-mouthed when four years old—no farmer has got any of these kind of sheep round about where I dwell—there are very few sheep about there, and I believe none of this sort—I live at Sudbury, which is nearly thirteen miles and a half from here—I did not find the whole of the sheep, only part of the hind part—the legs and shoulders were gone—I found the rump, loin, and best end of the neck—the loin and rump fits to the loin of the skin, and comes back to the tail—it is here—one of the prisoners was taken on the Saturday, and the other on Monday night—I knew them by sight before—I have spoken to them if I met them on the road—I was before the magistrate—a man named

William Harris was taken before the magistrate—he was questioned about the sheep—I do not recollect the prisoners saying Harris had directed them where to find the mutton.

JAMES HITCHCOCK . I keep the Crown at Northolt. I was a butcher for twenty years. White produced part of the carcass of a sheep to me—I compared the carcass with the skin—there was part—of the hind quarters—it corresponded with the skin, in my judgment—I believe it had belonged to the skin—the legs had been cut off and left on the skin—I mean the legs, not the thighs—it is what we call the shank bone without the thigh—I have seen the skin produced and the meat—it is the same I saw before the Justice.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you mean to say that two legs were left in the skin? A. No. the two leg-bones—the part usually left on a leg of mutton is the thigh—the legs are in the skin now—the thighs have been jointed off at the hip bones, and left in the thigh—there is as much of the leg left with the loin as is cut away—it was not cut in a butcher-like way.

COURT. Q. Is there enough left of the part of the legs and loin, together with the leg-bones in the skin, to enable you to form a judgment whether that part of the leg and loin came out of that skin? A. Yes; part of the gut is left on the skin and part on the mutton—part of the skin was left on the gut in the meat attached to the hind quarter—it should have been on the skin, said it matches with the skin—there was a piece of meat produced to me with a piece of skin adhering to it—there was some meat on the skin, and the two matched when applied to each other, by which I am positive the meat and the skin belonged to the same animal.

JOHN HAWKINS . I am a constable of Northolt. On Saturday night, the 7th of January, I took George Jackson into custody—I and Giblet went to his father's house at Northolt, and asked if he was at home—I went into the house, but did not see him at first—we searched the house, and took the candle to go into the bed room, and either his father or mother blew the candle out—we got another light, and searched under the bed—we found the prisoner George between the bedstead and the wall, naked, except his shirt—we told him he was our prisoner—he came out and dressed himself—we told him he and his brother were together after this mutton—that we had got a warrant out against him and his brother for taking the sheep—he said nothing—I took him to Hanwell cage that night—on the Monday night following I took the other prisoner, between Westend and Northolt, about half-past eleven o'clock I met him in the road with another—when he saw me coming, he jumped across the road to the other side—I went across, caught hold of his collar, and said, "Jackson, you are my prisoner"—the other man ran away—he said, "What do you want me for?"—I said, "You know what I want you for, for Mr. Smith's sheep"—I took him to the Plough at Northolt, and asked him whether he was the man who killed the sheep—he said, no, he was not the man who had killed it—I said, "You know who did kill it"—he said he should not like to transport any body—he told me William Harris killed the sheep—I took him to the cage—next morning I took Harris—I was before Lord Montford, the magistrate, when the prisoners were examined—I heard them examined—I saw his Lordship write down what they said.

COURT. Q. You saw him writing, and the prisoners speaking, but you

did not look over what was being written? A. No—what was written was read over to both of them—they were asked if it was correct—they were not asked to sign it—I did not see his Lordship sign it.

Cross-examined. Q. Is the prisoner's father able to walk about? A. Yes; he is here now—he is as able as I am to walk about the fields, and so is Harris—he is not here—I have known him ever since I was a little boy—he is a stout young fellow—the prisoner said he did not wish to transport any body, and so would not tell me who killed it—but I pressed him, and he said it was William Harris—I believe George sleeps at his father's—there was just room for him to be between the bed and the wall—one of his brothers was in another bed on the floor.

COURT. Q. Did you find him in a place of concealment? A. I could not find him, till I crawled under the bed and found him—his heels were cocked up as he laid on the floor—he laid on his back between the wall and the bedstead—that was after the first light was blown out—I expected to find him in his father's house.

JURY. Q. What distance is his house from where the sheep was found? A. I should think little better than a quarter of a mile.

JOHN GIBLET . I am a constable. I went with Hawkins when George Jackson was apprehended—I went into the house first—I was not present when John was apprehended.

George Jackson's Defence. I was at home, in bed, when it was done.

JOHN HAMPSTEAD . I am supported by the parish at present. I do any thing that the farmers of the parish put me to do—I saw the prisoner, John Jackson, on the evening of Saturday, the 10th of January, at the barn belonging to Mr. Simmonds, at Northolt—I got there a little after seven o'clock, and remained there all night—I had been to Hounslow, to see my sister, that day—that is eight miles from Northolt.

MR. DOANE. Q. How came you to recollect it was on a Saturday? A. I know the days of the week—I know it was Saturday, because I had been to my sister's—I had slept with John Jackson before—I had slept in that barn for some time—I had no friends, and was obliged to lay in the barn—he used to sleep with me every night—I cannot exactly say every night—he lodges there the same as myself—he slept with me on the Sunday and Monday night, and Friday, Wednesday, and Thursday—I went to bed a little after seven o'clock, on Friday—he went to bed at the same time—I cannot exactly say whether he went to bed on Wednesday the same time as I did—he did not sleep with me the following week—he slept with me on Saturday, and on Sunday, the 11th, but not on Monday, the 12th—we went to bed about seven o'clock on Sunday—he staid there all Sunday night—I recollect the Friday after that Sunday in the next week—he went to bed with me about seven o'clock that night—I am quite sure of it; and on the Thursday as well.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Do you remember when he was taken into custody? A. No; I cannot exactly say the day; the constables came into the barn and took him—it was either Monday or Tuesday—he never slept in the barn with me after Monday night.

COURT. Q. Are you quite certain the constable came to the barn to take the prisoner? A. Yes; he came there to take him, but he was not there—I was at John Jackson's mother's, at a little before six o'clock, on the evening of the 10th—his mother's house looks into the yard where the barn is—I stopped there till twenty minutes to seven o'clock, when he said,

"I shall go and do a job for myself, and then I shall come to lie down"—I said I was in no hurry to lie down myself, as there was nothing but straw to lay over us, and it was a very cold night—I saw him at six o'clock—he went out when he said he should, and in twenty minutes, or a quarter of an hour, I went to the barn, and found him there—he had left me for about ten minutes, or a quarter of an hour—they have got a clock in the house—I did not see him before six o'clock that evening.

JOHN GIBLET re-examined. I was at the barn on Friday night, Saturday night, and Sunday night—I went on Sunday night twice, about ten o'clock—John Jackson was not to be found in the barn on Sunday night at all—the witness was there by himself.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. The witnesses for the prosecution were ordered out of Court—did not you go out? A. Yes—I staid in Court while the witness for the defence was being examined—I have not been out of the Court since I was examined—I have not been round to the attorney for the prosecution, nor sent any body to him—I do not know how I came to be called a second time.

COURT. Q. Had you, before the trial took place, stated that you had been to the barn on Sunday night, and could not find John? A. I stated it to Lord Montford.

JAMES HITCHCOCK re-examined. I went round to the attorney to give information since the witness for the defence was examined.

MR. DOANE. Q. Had you any communication with Giblet? A. Not a word.


NEW COURT.—Wednesday, February 4, 1835.

Sixth Jury, before Mr. Common sergeant.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-520
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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520. THOMAS TEASDALE was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of January, 1700lbs. weight of rags, value 9l. 12s., the goods of James Nathaniel Lewis—also, on the 9th of January, 1000lbs. weight of rags, value 13l.; and 5 bags, value 5s.; the goods of the said James Nathaniel Lewis, his master; to which he pleaded

GUILTY .—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor.

Confined Two Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-521
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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521. WILLIAM WILLIAMS was indicted for embezzlement.

JOHN PITWAY . I am a cabinet-maker, and live in Kirby-street, Hatton-garden. The prisoner had been with me two years and a half—I gave orders for him to be sent for this money—it was his duty, if he received it, to come and pay it to me—I had no regular account with Mr. Dobbs; but he then owed me 2l.—the prisoner has not accounted to me for this 2l., nor paid it to me—I gave him into custody on the 10th of January—he owned he had had the money, and lost part of it—he was called down, and I examined him about the money—he did not tell me what sum he had lost—I gave him into custody.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. When was it you had the conversation with him? A. About eight o'clock in the evening—I do not recollect speaking to him in the morning—he did not tell me it was half-a-sovereign that he lost, and he was afraid to tell me of it—I swear I did not speak to him in the morning—I did not desire him to go to his work—he did not come in the evening and ask for his wages—he never denied that he

had had the money—I heard from the policeman that he said he had lost half-a-sovereign—I found, about five o'clock, that Mr. Dobbs had paid the money—the prisoner had 1l. wages coming to him—he said he could make up the money—I asked what money he had got, and he said he had none by him—I asked him if he could make up the difference—he said he could not—I had not made up my mind about giving him in charge—I considered about it for two hours or more—he had gone up to his work, and had the opportunity of escaping.

ROBERT HEATON JOHNSON . I am in the employ of Messrs. Dobbs and Co., Stationers, Fleet-street. On the 3rd of January, I paid the prisoner 2l. for Mr. Pitway—I think it was two sovereigns—he brought this bill with the receipt on it.

JAMES RUSHBROOK . I am in the service of Mr. Pitway. I delivered the bill to the prisoner on Saturday, the 3rd of January—I directed him to go and receive the money—I asked him for it when he came back—he said the clerk was out, and he was to call again on the Monday.

Cross-examined. Q. He would have had his wages? A. Yes, that evening; they would have been 1l.—he has borne a good character, as far as I know—he was in a place of trust, and carried out goods to the amount of 20l., 30l., or 40l.

Prisoner's Defence. It was through my losing half-a-sovereign, as I returned from Mr. Dobbs's—I told my master I had lost it about half-past five o'clock, and then he told me to go to my work—he asked me if I had 1l.—I said I had 30s. at home—he gave me in charge at half-past nine o'clock.

JOHN PITTWAY . I do not think he said he had 30s. at home—I will not swear it.

Cross-examined. Q. How came you to state that he could not raise 1l.? A. He could not there—I cannot swear that he did not say he had 30s. at home.

(The prisoner received a good character; and Mr. Taylor, a baker, of White Lion-street, Pentonville, promised to employ him.)

GUILTY . Aged 21.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor and Jury.

Confined Two Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-522
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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522. THOMAS BASKERVILLE was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of October, 13 dwts. of gold, value 2l. 12s.; the goods of John Law, his master.

JOHN LAW . I live at the corner of Red Lion-street, Spitalfields, and am a gold-beater. The prisoner was my journeyman—he worked in my house on Thursday, the 2nd of October—I delivered him 2 ozs. 4 dwts. and 3 grs. of gold to manufacture into leaf, which would have taken him about four days, and he worked on it until the Saturday—I then gave him some money on account—I missed him from the shop during the week after—on the Saturday, I went into the shop to see about his work—I found it in an unfinished state, and part of it was gone—what I missed was worth 52s.—I heard no more of him.

EDWARD GAGE . I am apprenticed to the prosecutor. The prisoner was not at work on the Monday or Tuesday in that week—on the Wednesday he came and worked for about half-an-hour—he then took the gold out of the box, wrapped it in some paper, and put it into his pocket—I told him he had better not take it out of the shop for fear of losing it—he made no answer, but went out—I did not see him again till the 16th of January.

Prisoner. I had no box. Witness. Yes, you had.

ALEXANDER HALLMAN (police-constable M 156.) I took the prisoner—he denied knowing any thing about it—he said his name was John Smith, and he was a wood turner.

(The prisoner put in a written defence, stating that he had taken the gold home for safety, and having got intoxicated, had lost or been robbed of it. Mr. Joseph Staples, a dentist, of Cross-street, Hatton-garden, in whose service he had been till he was taken, engaged to employ him.)

GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Two Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-523
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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523. GEORGE HUGHES was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of December, 2 nose-bags, value 5s., the goods of Sampson Hanbury, and others.

MR. PHILLIPS conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS EVANS . I am in the employ of Messrs Hanbury's, the brewers. On the 3rd of December I called about half-past six o'clock, at the Gun public-house—I left my dray in the street—I came out in about five minutes—I missed two nose-bags which I had left on the dray-pins—these are them, they are worth 5s. a-piece when new—my master's name is on them.

GEORGE MORRIS . I am servant to Sampson Hanbury and Co.—I was in Banner-street on the 8th of January—I saw a hackney-coach with these nose-bags on the horses—I took them off and gave them to an officer—these are them.

JAMES CULLEY . I live in Waterloo-place, and am a hackney-coach-man. I have known the prisoner a year and a half, or two years—he is a waterman—on the 5th of December I saw him on the stand—he said he had got two nose-bags for sale—he brought them out of the public-house, and asked 2s. for them, and I gave him 1s. 9d., which was all I had—my coach was then at the Finsbury election—these are the bags—the name is on them, but it was then daubed over with grease—I pointed the prisoner out, and he was taken.

JOHN MAETIN (police-constable G 202.) I received the bags—Culley pointed out the prisoner to me—I took him, and asked if he knew Culley—he said, "Yes," and he had sold him several nose-bags—he said he had sold him two horse-hair ones for 1s. 9d., and he had bought them for 1s. 6d., of a man who had sold two horses in Smithfield, and he sold the bags because he did not want them—he said he did not know the man—I am sure he said that.

Prisoner's Defence. I bought the two bags of a man for 1s. 6d.

JOHN WYNNE . The prisoner bought these two bags—they were offered to me on the rank, by a young lad—I said I did not know that I wanted them, as my master found them—I asked what he wanted for them—he said 2s.—I said it was more than I wished to give, as I did not know what horses they might have been on—the prisoner then came up and asked what he wanted for them—I told him—he said he could not give so much for them—he had, to the best of my recollection, but 8 1/2 d., but the boy was to come back for more money—1s. 6d. was agreed to be given for them—the lad gave the bags to the prisoner, the waterman—he said his father lived in Long-lane, and he had bought these bags with a lot of old harness, the day before—he told the prisoner the same story—there was

nothing said about any horses, or Smithfield market—he had no opportunity of telling the prisoner any other story than what I heard, to my knowledge; but I was minding my business while they were talking together.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. He gave you that account of the way he came by them? A. Yes, before the waterman came up—when he came up they stood talking together—he told the waterman the same story he told me, and that his father lived in Long-lane—the boy was to come back for some more money—I do not know how much—3 1/2 d. was what I understood by him—I said so down stairs to a brewer's man, and the policeman was on the stairs.

Q. How came you to state you did not know how much more he was to come back for, if you heard he was to come for 3 1/2 d.? A. Why I might make a mistake, I know it was 3 1/2 d.—I do not know whether I forgot it or not.

COURT. Q. Are you sure that the lad told the prisoner his father lived in Long-lane, and he had bought the bags the day before? A. Yes, that was the story he told the prisoner—these boys are on the rank frequently at night, selling bags of the same description, at Cornhill, London-bridge, Ludgate-hill, and the Borough—the other night a boy came up, of the same size as the one the prisoner bought these bags of—I got down from my cab and looked at him, but he was not the same lad—I cannot say when the purchase was, whether it was in January or December, before Christmas day or after it.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Would not the man who bought the bag recollect that the boy said his father lived in Long-lane, Smithfield? A. Yes; he ought to recollect it—I did not go to the police-office to tell this story, but I told an officer in Farringdon-street the size of the boy.

JOHN MARTIN re-examined. The prisoner said at the police-office that he had bought the bags, and he was remanded for the purpose of producing any witnesses, but Wynne did not appear.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-524
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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MARIA SMITH . I am the wife of Richard Smith, of Winchester-court, Monkwell-street. The prisoner came to my house, and slept one night—he gave my husband a written direction to go to the Custom-house, to get his luggage—he slept there that night, and had his breakfast and dinner the next day—at dinner-time my son came in, I said, "How long will your father be?" he said, "Two hours, for he is gone to the Custom-house"—the prisoner said, "I am very glad, for I shall have a change to put on"—I went down, and the prisoner said, "I will put this coat on, and go to see a young woman at the bottom of Silver-street, Falcon-square"—I said, "You will not be long?" he said, "No; because I expect your husband with my luggage"—he went off, and when my husband came home, he said, "Where is the young man?" I went to see after him, but he was not there—I then missed two silver spoons, which I had washed up with the tea-things that morning after breakfast—I have never seen them since.

JOHN UNDERWOOD SMITH . I am the son of this witness. It was my great-coat the prisoner took—I afterwards met him in the street, and asked

him for it—he said, "What coat?" Le tried to get from me, but the policeman came up and took him.

Prisoner's Defence. I borrowed the coat; the spoons I never saw.

GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined One Year.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-525
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-526
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526. ELIZABETH WARD and ELIZA MAGER were indicted for stealing, on the 9th of January, 2 sovereigns, 1 crown, and 2 half-crowns; the monies of William Pittman, from his person.

WILLIAM PITTMAN . I am a pensioner of the 17th Lancers, and live in Shakespeare-walk, Shadwell. On Friday, the 9th of January, I drew my quarter's pension, which was 3l. 4s. 1 1/2 d.—I went home, and went to work till near seven o'clock—I then went to a gin-shop, and changed a sovereign—I paid some money away, and then had 2l. 12s. in a paper, screwed up—I then called for a quartern and a half of gin, and took one shilling out, in the presence of Elizabeth Ward, who came in and asked me to give her some gin—I paid for it in her presence, and then replaced the money in my pocket, and turned to go away—a little boy came in and brought a bough-pot, which he asked 3d. for—I bought it of him, and laid it down on the seat—Ward took it up, and ran away with it—I followed her—she went into Mager's house—I went in, and Mager was standing by the fire—she desired me to go up-stairs after the girl, I did so, and saw Ward—she laughed at me, and wanted me to stop all night—I refused, but she persuaded me—I staid some time, and she took my money from me—I seized her hands and said, "You have got my money, 2l. 10s."—there was a scuffle between us—I could not get the money from her, but Mager came up, and said, "What is the matter? what is the matter?"—Ward slipped her hand from my grasp, and reached the money out to Mager; who took it and ran down stairs with it, and then she called out for a policeman as well as me—there were two sovereigns, one crown, and two half-crowns in my paper—I believe there was a shilling, but I will not swear that.

Mager. I am certain I never was up the stairs—I went out for a penny worth of potatoes, and when I came back he was calling the police, and then I called police. Witness. I can swear positively she was in the room—there was a candle burning—I call God to witness that she came in—she went out after she had taken the money, but she had people below to whom she gave the money—I had had one glass of gin, and a pint of beer, that was all—I was perfectly sober.

EDWARD DOUGHTY . I was in the police at this time. At half-past seven o'clock that night, I heard the call of "Police"—I went to the door, and asked Mager what was amiss—she said a young man was up stairs with one of the girls, and they had fallen out—I went up, and Ward was on the bed—the prosecutor had hold of her arms, and said she had robbed him of 2l. 10s.—I searched the bed, but he said it was no use for me to search it, as Mrs. Mager had got the money—I took Ward down stairs, and took her and Mager to the watch-house—I then went back, and searched the house, but could not find any thing—the Serjeant's wife searched the prisoners, but found nothing on them—there was no one in the house when I went but the prosecutor and the two prisoners; but Mager sent a girl in to take care of her place when she came out—the prosecutor was quite sober.

Mager. I said to him, "Shall I go with you?" and he said "Yes, you had better; it may save trouble."

Ward's Defence. I met the prosecutor—he asked me to go and have some gin—I went, and we had a quartern and a half, and a pint of porter—he asked me to look at the bough-pot—I put it on the seat—he then asked me to go home with him—he said he would give me 1s. 6d., but he did not give me a farthing—when I asked him for the money, he said he would give it me afterwards.

WILLIAM PITTMAN re-examined. Q. You said there were other persons below? A. There was a girl in the public-house—I have heard she lodged there, but I did not see any one there.

WARD— GUILTY . Aged 32.

MAGER— GUILTY . Aged 48.

Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-527
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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527. JAMES POWELL was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of January, 1 truck, value 5l., the goods of Edward Lloyd.

EDWARD LLOYD . I live in King's Arms-yard. I was at work in Cateaton-street on the 24th of January, and had a truck, which I left against the premises I was repairing—I heard the truck going away—I ran out, and followed the prisoner—I overtook him with it.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you ask him where he was going? A. Yes—he said for some mortar for a job—I told him he must not go with my truck, and he said the man gave him leave to take it—he asked that the officer should go to his master, to inquire if he was not doing a job there.

COURT. Q. Was he walking? A. Yes, fast, and dragging the track—it was between three and four o'clock, and there were plenty of people about.

Prisoner's Defence. I had a job to do, and did not know where to procure a truck—I saw this one, and waited half an hour, and not seeing any one there, I thought I might be back before they came for it—I was working for Mr. Bradbrook, a publican.

The prisoner received a good character.

GUILTY . Aged 28.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Three Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-528
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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528. WILLIAM MOSS was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of January, 1 fowl, value 2s. 6d., the goods of John Powers Washington.

JOHN POWERS WASHINGTON . I live in Thomas-street, Brick-lane. On the 12th of January, about eight o'clock in the evening, I heard the noise of a fowl, as if some one was disturbing them—I ran out, and found the door of the place they were kept in open, and the street door open—I went out, and saw two young lads—I laid hold of them, and asked what they were about—they said they were going on an errand—they called, "Bill," and the prisoner ran over, and said they were his two brothers, what did I want with them—I let them go—I missed this hen from the place where the fowls were kept, in the yard—it had been fastened by a button.

SARAH WELLS . This fowl was brought to me by the prisoner on Monday night, the 12th of January, and I bought it for 1s. 3d.

BARNARD ROURK (police-constable H 47.) I took the prisoner in charge.

Prisoner's Defence. I was sitting at work, and a young man brought this fowl, and asked me to buy it—I gave him 1s. 6d. for it—I did not know what to do with it, and sold it.

ELIZABETH SAUNDERS . The prisoner's father has no wife, and I am

there attending to the family. On Monday, at half-past seven o'clock, the prisoner got up from the side of his father—he was out about ten minutes, and then brought in this fowl, and said, "Father, I have bought a fowl"—his father said, "Nonsense, we want no fowl—we have no place to keep it," and the prisoner went out to sell it.

GUILTY . Aged 17.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Three Days.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-529
VerdictsNot Guilty > unknown

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529. HENRY BURROWS and CHARLES PERRY were indicted for stealing, on the 15th of January, 60lbs. of coal, value 8d., the goods of Sarah Guest; and FRANCIS DEAN was indicted for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing it to be stolen.

SAMUEL ROBERTS . I am a labourer, and live at Battersea. I assisted in unloading seven tons of coals, from the wharf, on the 15th of January, for Sarah Guest—I did not know that any fell over—such a coal as this could not have fallen over without my knowing it—we always put such coals in the cart by the hand—it is all one coal, and weighs 60lbs.—I had been unloading coals similar to this—I cannot say this is one.

CHARLES COLLAR (police-constable N 82.) On the 15th of January, about ten o'clock at night, I saw Burrows with this coal in a fruit basket, going down by the ten houses near Battersea church—Perry was with him—they passed me, and Burrows said to him, "Go and open the door"—I saw him go into Dean's house—I went to my brother officer, and we went to Dean's—we knocked—Dean got out of bed, and opened the door—my brother officer asked if he had had any coal in that day—he said, "No"—he opened a cupboard, and we saw 4lbs. of small coals and cinders—we saw another cupboard, and asked him to open that, and there I found this coal, which I had seen on Burrows—I believe it is the same, but I cannot swear it.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-530
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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530. WILLIAM WELCH and JOHN VARDON were indicted for stealing, on the 31st of December, 4 bundles of osiers, value 8s., the goods of Stephen Pott. 2nd COUNT, calling them 4 bundles of withies.

MR. ADOLPHUS conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS ALFRED POTT . I am the son of Stephen Pott. He is the proprietor of an osier-ground at Enfield—he holds it on a lease—on the 31st of December there was a growth of osiers there which had been cut; and Reed agreed to fetch them at so much a time, when there was a load ready—they were done up in parcels or bundles, called bolts.

GEORGE ANSELL . I am a farmer's man, and live at Edmonton. On the 31st of December, I was returning from Enfield Highway—I met Welsh near the Two Brewers, at Ponder's End—he asked me to come back, and he would stand a pot at the Two Brewers—he had before asked me where I was going, and I said, "Home"—when we had drank the beer, I was coming away; and he said, "If you have nothing to do you may come and help me to load"—I went with him down the marshes into Mr. Pott's osier-ground, and loaded forty-seven bundles—they were in Mr. Reed's cart—Welch drove the cart, and we came into the highway; and when we got between there and Edmonton, he said, "I have got to leave John Vardon four bolts of osiers;" Vardon keeps a Tom and Jerry shop, and bunches turnips—Welch drove the horse and cart close to the house, and left the horse feeding; and said, "We will go and have a drop of beer before we put the four bundles down"—we went into the house, and were in about half an hour—he then asked me to go and throw the four bolts for him, which

I did—and when I threw them down, the prisoner Vardon's son took them into their premises, into the yard—I saw the prisoner, Vardon, in the tap-room, and he went into the bar—he did not come out, nor give any directions to his son—he did not tell his son to do any thing, nor show any sign that he knew what he was doing—I did not go into the house again—I was pulling a plank board when Mr. Potts's men came by—I was taken before the Justice, and stated as I have now—the Justice sent me to prison to come here to-day.

THOMAS ALFRED POTT re-examined. Q. Did you, in consequence of information, go to Vardon's? A. Yes, after I had counted the bundles of osiers, and missed four of them, I went down to Vardon's turnip-shed—I found four bolts altogether—one bolt was near the turnip-shed—they were the smallest osiers, and more fit for tying turnips than the other three were—the others were in the stable—they were the same sort of osiers as my father's—Welch was a servant of Reed's, who was employed to cart them.

ROBERT BANE . On the 31st of December I was at work for Mr. Pott—I remember Welch and Ansell coming together to the osier-ground, with a cart of Stephen Reed's—they took away forty-seven bolts of osiers—I followed the cart with Bennet some time afterwards—we saw the cart at Vardon's beer-shop—I saw a man take one bundle from the cart, and go into the yard with it—Ansell was on the cart, and the rope was slack—I was afterwards taken to see those bolts that were found in Vardon's yard—I knew one of them, which I had carried to the cart—I told Mr. Pott what I had seen, and he went and made inquiries, before the cart arrived at the place where the osiers ought to have been deposited.

THOMAS ALFRED POTT re-examined. Welch had no authority to deliver these osiers at Vardon's yard.

Welch's Defence. I know nothing about them—the man took them off unknown to me.

WELCH— GUILTY . Aged 53.— Confined One Year.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-531
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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531. WILLIAM PATTEN was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of January, 2 half-crowns, 8 shillings, and 1 penny; the monies of Joseph James Adair, from the person of Eliza Ibberson.

ELIZABETH IBBERSON . I am thirteen years old. I am the daughter of Thomas Ibberson. On the 3rd of January a young man called me to go to my cousin, Joseph James Adair, and get some shoes—I got them, and took them to Mr. Dixon's—he gave me a sovereign—I got change, and had 13s. 1d. left, after I had bought half a pound of sugar, which came to 3d.—the 13s. 1d. was my cousin's money—the prisoner came up to me, and said he had come from my cousin's for the money—I had never seen him before—I do not know how he knew I had the money—he said if I wanted change I was to get half-a-pound of sugar, which I did, and I took the 6s. 8d. back to the governor—I gave the prisoner 13s. 1d. in consequence of the representation that he made, that he had come from my cousin's—he then went towards Cornhill, and said he had to meet my cousin.

JOSEPH JAMES ADAIR . I live in Harris-square. I sent the witness to Mr. Dixon's, in Cheapside, whom I work for as a shoemaker, with my work, for which she received 13s. 4d. for me—she returned without it—I I did not authorize her to give it to the prisoner, nor any part of it—

I went after the prisoner, and, from the description she gave of his person, I took him the same evening—he said he had no money of mine, and he had not robbed the girl.

RICHARD DIXON . I gave this girl the Sovereign, and she brought me 6s. 8d.

ELIZA IBBERSON re-examined. I cannot be mistaken in the prisoner—I took particular notice of him—I am sure he is the person.

PHILIP MEKIN (police-sergeant N 22.) I took the prisoner, between seven and eight o'clock on the 3rd of January, in Robert-street, Shoreditch—the prosecutor had him by the collar when I came up.

JOSEPH JAMES ADAIR . A young person worked for me at binding shoes—she left my place that morning, and she asked me who was going to the shop with my work—I said, "Eliza;" and I took the prisoner because he lives in the house with that young girl's brother.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Six Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-532
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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532. WILLIAM NORTON and THOMAS NORTON were indicted for stealing, on the 6th January, 2 wheels, value 9s., the goods of Isaac Fox.

ISAAC FOX . I am a wheelwright, and live at Enfield. I had two wheels in my yard on the 6th of January—I missed them on the 7th—these are them—I made the wood-work—this one has had the iron put on since—I went in search of them, and found this one in the town, fixed to a barrow which Thomas Norton had—I asked who made his barrow—he said a man named Hyat—I said the wheel was mine—he said, "You are wrong, I saw the man making it"—I called him a liar—he went on his business round the town with greens, and his brother was with him—I then got Mead, the constable, who went with me to Baker-street, and he went into the prisoner's house—he called me in—I saw the barrow at the back door, and said that was the barrow and wheel which I had seen in the town—this was on the 21st of January—Mead then asked them to take the wheel out of the barrow, which they did, and he brought it out of the house; but he first asked if they had not got another wheel—William Norton said he had no other, but there was another barrow there, and I might look at that—I did, but that wheel was not mine—we came out together—the officer took them to the cage, and in about twenty minutes he brought me this second wheel.

JOHN MEAD . I am the officer. I went and found this wheel on the barrow—I took the prisoner, and found this other wheel in Swain's shop.

EDWIN SWAIN . William Norton brought me this wheel to have an iron put on it—I put it on—I think it was about the 17th of January—they then both brought the other wheel to be ironed, and the officer had that away.

JAMES HYAT . I never made any wheels for the prisoners in my life.

Thomas Norton. I am guilty; my brother is innocent.



Confined Six Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-533
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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533. JOSEPH KING was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of January, 1 pair of half-boots, value 3s.; 1 pair of stockings, value 3d.; the goods of Thomas Matthew.

THOMAS MATTHEWS . I lodge at the St. John of Jerusalem public-house, Clerkenwell. I slept with the prisoner on the 15th of January—I

had a pair of half-boots, which stood under the bed for nearly a week, and my stockings were in a knapsack over-head—I went to bed a little before nine o'clock—the prisoner came to bed afterwards—I got up at seven o'clock the next morning, and left him in bed—I missed the boots and stockings at a quarter past nine o'clock—he was then gone—no one but him had an opportunity of taking them.

WILLIAM TUCKER . I am the son of the person who keeps the house. I saw the prisoner behind a coach between twelve and two o'clock that day—I fetched him back, and said he had got another person's boots—he said he had taken them by mistake, and he would willingly come back, and take them off—which he did, and gave them to the prosecutor, and the stockings—he had left an old pair of boots there.

Prisoner's Defence. I took the boots in mistake—I know nothing of the stockings.

THOMAS MATTHEWS . Mine were the best boots—I value them at 2s. 3d.—I should suppose his are worth 1s.—he left no stockings—my stockings were worth 3d.

GUILTY . Aged 19.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor.

Confined Three Days.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-534
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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534. JOHN SHEARSBY was indicted for stealing, on the 2nd of January, 1 metal cock, value 2s., the goods of Thomas Risley.

MARY RISLEY . I am the wife of Thomas Risley. We live in Sandford Cottages, at Hackney—we have a water-butt in our front garden—on the 2nd of January I was at work in the evening, and heard a rush of water, about half-past six o'clock—I went out, and found the cock was gone from the butt—this is it—I know it by the marks on it.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Who made these marks? A. My husband did, with the pincers, when we could not turn the cock—it was safe about five o'clock in the evening—the house stands alone—I saw the cock again on the Wednesday after I lost it—the Coach-and-Horses public-house is at the top of the lane.

WILLIAM DIMOND . I was at the Coach-and-Horses when the prisoner came in with this cock—he put it on the table, and said he had it for sale—I looked at it, as I had known him fifteen or sixteen years, and said I would try to sell it for him—I went to look for my landlord, who I thought would buy it, but he was gone—I took it in again—the prisoner said he wanted something—I told him I had no money, but I would borrow 6d., which I did; and when my landlord came, I showed it him, but it would not do—it was for sale in my place—Mrs. Risley heard of it, and came there for it.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you not left out part of your story? A. Not that I know of—I did not want the cock—the prisoner made no secret of it—he said he had picked it up.

JOSEPH COOTE (police-constable N 144.) I took the prisoner on the following morning—I had been in the habit of meeting him with the work-people every night, but that night he did not come, which gave me suspicion that he had done wrong.

Cross-examined. Q. What do you get a day for attending prosecutions? A. Two shillings, I understand—I did not urge Mr. Risley to prosecute—it is my duty to detect thieves, and I have a right to bring them to justice, if I think they are guilty.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-535
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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535. GEORGE ROSE was indicted for stealing, on the 11th of January, 1 lantern, value 5s., the goods of Henry Johnson.

GEORGE MORRIS . I am watchman to Mr. Henry Johnson; this is his lantern—I had it with a light in it about three o'clock in the morning on the 11th of January, I saw the prisoner with it, about one hundred yards from the end of Great Warner-street, Clerkenwell, where it had been put because the road was blocked up—I took hold of him, but let him go again—he said it was not his—I said I knew it was not—he went across the road, and the officer came and took him.

Prisoner. I was intoxicated. Witness. No, he was walking as fast as he could when I took him.

THOMAS MASON (police-constable G 95.) I was coming round my beat, and saw the prisoner running—I took him—he had been drinking, but was not intoxicated.

Prisoner's Defence. I lost 5s., and could not find it—I was not going fast.

GUILTY . Aged 38.— Confined One Month.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-536
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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536. JOHN BROWN was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of February, 1 saw, value 7s., the goods of Joseph Stubbs; and 1 saw, value, 5s., the goods of John Thomas Glazier.

JOSEPH STUBBS . I left a saw on the 31st of January where I was at work; and on Monday morning, when I came to work, I saw the watchman waiting at the door, and missed this saw.

JOHN THOMAS GLAZIER . I am a carpenter. I left my saw at the same place, and missed it on Monday morning—they were locked in the workshop—the person had got in by getting over other premises, then down the roof, over the saw-pit, and then in at the window—I lost five saws and a flannel jacket, but the man was stopped with four of them.

THOMAS JOSEPH CUNDELL . I was at my master's gate on the Sunday night—I saw the prisoner and another man loitering about—the prisoner asked me whether I had seen a man in a flannel jacket—I said, "No, not to my knowledge"—he then got over the fence—the watchman heard him, and ran after him.

WILLIAM WARREN . I am the watchman. I went after the prisoner, and found this saw on him—he was on the steps at the east side of London-bridge, close to the premises where the property was taken from.

JAMES HALL . I was constable of the night—the prisoner was brought in with this saw—I found this other saw in his bosom—I then went to the premises, and found three more saws and two planes—he had got over the premises by means of some poles put against the pales close to Martin's-lane—I found four duplicates on the prisoner, all for carpenters' tools.

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined One Year.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-537
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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537. SAMUEL FURLER was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of January, 2 sheets, value 7s.; and 2 handkerchiefs, value 1s. 6d.; the goods of Robert Ashby; and that he had been before convicted of felony.

MARY ASHBY . I am the wife of Robert Ashby, a police-constable, who lives in Homer-row, Marylebone. The prisoner came to the house for a lodging—I said I had not one ready, but I would get him one the next day—he pressed me very much to let him have one that night; and as I knew his father and mother twelve years ago, and knew him from living

with them, I did so—he came in about nine o'clock—I went into the room with him—he was to pay half-a-crown a week—the next morning I called him, and told him I was very sorry to hear such a bad account of him; that I heard he had been committed to prison a great many times—he said, "Who could tell you that?"—I said, "If you have, I hope you now see the error of your conduct, and will do better," and if he was a good lad he might continue in my lodging—he then went out—I went up stairs, and missed the sheets and handkerchief, and many other things which I could not specify—no one but him had access to them.

SAMUEL DILLON (police-constable D 145.)) I took the prisoner—I produce the certificate of his former conviction (read)—I know he is the person.

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-538
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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538. ISAAC LEFEVRE was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of January, 32lbs. of cheese, value 16s. the goods of John Fisher.

JOHN FISHER . I am a cheesemonger. I missed two cheeses and one piece on the 22nd of January—I went towards St. John's Rents, and saw the policeman in pursuit of the prisoner—I went round a back way, expecting him to come to the end; and when I got up, I saw this cheese on the ground—the prisoner had gone in that direction—I know the marks on the cheeses.

Cross-examined by MR. MAHON. Q. Where had the cheeses been? A. On a stall-board, outside the window, which was open—my shop is large—there were only these two cheeses and a piece in the window—it was between three and four o'clock in the afternoon; I missed them when I was told of it by my maid-servant.

JANE LIGHTMAN . I am in the service of Mr. Fisher. I was at the kitchen window that day, and saw two persons walking backwards and forwards, and looking into the shop—the prisoner was one, I am quite certain—I saw him take two pieces of cheese, and give them to another person—he then took a Cheshire cheese himself, and put it under his left arm—he went down Phipps-street.

Cross-examined. Q. What did you do? A. I went up to my master—I had been washing my hands at the kitchen window, which is under the shop—I could see people's faces—I had not seen the prisoner before—there is a show-board, which projects about a foot, I should think, over the area window—it does not shut out the light much—I can see every body that comes to the shop window—I saw the prisoner and the other pass three times, and watched them, thinking they were after no good.

JOHN BOOKER (police-constable K 250.) I was looking down Stepney-causeway, and saw the prisoner and another boy—the prisoner had something in his apron—they ran away—I pursued—they turned down James's-place—I followed the prisoner—he dropped this cheese when I was near him—the prosecutor took it up.

Cross-examined. Q. Had the prisoner turned a corner? A. No, the other did—I had not known the prisoner before.

(John Cantle, a fellowship porter, of Whitechapel-road; and William Brown, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Three Months.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-539
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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539. SARAH FACEY was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of January, 1 tippet, value 30s., the goods of Jane Warren; to which she pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined Two Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-540
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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540. WILLIAM JONES and JOSEPH LITTLEMORE were indicted for stealing, on the 5th of January, 5 pairs of shoes, value 37s., the goods of John Thomas.

JAMES CLARK . I am in the employ of Mr. John Thomas, a shoemaker, Ratcliffe-highway. On the 5th of January, about half-past four o'clock in the afternoon, I was standing in the back of the shop—the prisoner Jones came to the door, and took off a bundle of shoes which hung on a nail inside the shop—he ran away with them—I pursued, and caught Jones twelve or fourteen yards off—he had not the shoes then, but I am positive he is the person who took them—they have never been, recovered—I did not see Littlemore at all.

THOMAS SCAIFE . On the day these shoes were lost, I was coming from Poplar, and saw Jones take them out of his basket, and give them to Littlemore, who went off with them—that was not more than fourteen yards from the prosecutor's.

JURY. Q. Did you know them before? A. Yes, by sight, in the Highway—I was at my master's window.

SAMUEL BARTON . I saw Jones take the shoes out of a basket, and give them into Littlemore's apron, who ran away with them—I saw Jones taken.

GEORGE HARRISON (police-constable K 64.) I saw the two prisoners together a few minutes before—I then received Jones, and told my brother-officer Littlemore's dress, and he was taken in about three hours.

JONES— GUILTY . Aged 21.


Confined Six Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-541
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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541. ROBERT CONNOR was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of January, 1 watch, value 30s.; 1 seal, value 1s.; and 1 key, value 1d.; the goods of John Tighe, from his person.

JOHN TIGHE . I am a work-box manufacturer, and live in Golden-lane. On the 13th of January, I had been out, and got rather drunk—I was returning home at half-past eleven o'clock, and met the prisoner fronting a public-house in Golden-lane—he asked how I was—I said very well—he asked me to give him something to drink—I had seen him before, and spoken to him—I gave him something, which, I believe, was some ale—we came out, and he said he was very hungry, would I give him something to eat—I said it was too late—he said he would show me a shop in Farringdon-street, where we could get some coffee and toast—we went there, and stopped two hours—it was then too late to get in at home, and I stopped there till daylight—about half-past four o'clock, he said would I give him something to drink—I said yes—I took him to a house across the way, and gave him some gin—I then went back to the coffee-shop with him, and stopped till it got quite clear daylight—I then gave him some more toast and coffee, and went with him to another public-house, and gave him some more gin—I went back with him to the White Hart—he then wanted some more to drink, and I gave him some ale—he asked me the time—I told him—I then put my watch into my pocket—I did not see it again—I went to a beer-shop, where I was well known, to wait till I recovered, as I did not like to go home in that stupid state—I laid down, and went to sleep—I did not see the prisoner again till he was taken—my watch was gone—I have not seen it since—the ribbon was a faded grey, with a dark stripe down the middle.

WILLIAM HANNAGAN . The prosecutor is an acquaintance of mine—on

the evening of the 13th of January, I was passing through Cloth Fair—I looked through the window of the Pilot public-house, and saw Tighe there, with his head on the table—I went in, and saw the prisoner on the other side of the table—I tried to awaken Tighe, but I could not, he was so drunk—the prisoner said, "What business have you to awake him; what do you know about him?"—I asked what he knew about him—he said he lodged with him, and slept with him—I asked him when—he said, "The night before last"—I said, "No, you did not, for I slept with him that night myself"—"Yes, I did," said he, "and I will get a cab, and take him home"—I said, "Where does he live"—he said, "In Golden-lane"—I said, "No, he lives in a court in Golden-lane"—I saw a watch-ribbon hanging from the prisoner's fob—I said, "Where did you get that watch?"—he pulled it out, and said he bought it for 11s.—I said, "That is Tighe's watch"—he said, "No, my name is in it"—I said, "Your name is not in it, for it is Tighe's watch, and I saw him try to pawn it last night"—I said, "Show me the watch till I see your name in it"—he said, "Yes it is," and he put it in his pocket—it had a greyish ribbon to it—I had known the watch for two years—I went out, as he would not give me the watch, to get a policeman; and before I got back, he was gone—he was taken, I think, on the 24th.

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-542
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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542. JAMES YOUNG and THOMAS CREAMER were indicted for stealing, on the 10th of January, 2 waistcoats, value 2l.; 1 pair of trowsers, value 17s.; 1 pair of drawers, value 1s. 6d.; and 1 handkerchief, value 3d.; the goods of James Kilminster, from the person of Ann Kilminster.

ANN KILMINSTER . I am the wife of James Kilminster. On the 10th of January, about a quarter past eight o'clock in the evening, I was in Milton-street, carrying a bundle, containing the articles stated—when I got to Sun-court, it was snatched from my arm by a man who stood at the corner—he ran up the court—I followed him—I believe it was Young, but I will not be positive—I had a slight glance of his features—he put the bundle under his left arm—as soon as he turned the first corner, a person joined him, who had a flannel jacket on—they seemed talking, but I could not hear what they said—that was about fourteen yards from the place where I lost my bundle—they then ran, and I followed them, till I fell down some steps—the one in the flannel jacket then came back, and spoke to a woman—I lost the bundle entirely—the prisoners were taken in about a week—I believe they are the men.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Is not that a busy street? A. I had never been in that street before—there was nobody passing at that time—it was not very dark—there was a lamp at the end, but the steps I fell down were at the further part of the court—I called "Stop thief," and followed them—they both had their backs to me—it was the man in the flannel jacket that returned—there was a party who stopped him at the end of the court, but they let the other with the bundle go past—I cannot swear that it was Creamer who had the jacket on.

ALFRED DAVIS . I am the prosecutrix's brother. I was with her, and just as she was passing the court, a man in a blue coat and bright buttons snatched the bundle—I believe it was Young—I cannot be positive—I saw the other's back, but not his face.

SUSANNAH CORNISH . I am married. I was in my own house at a quarter past eight o'clock that night—I heard a cry of "Stop thief," and ran to

my door—I saw two men pass—one had a blue coat with bright buttons, he had a bundle under his left arm—Creamer was with him, and he had a flannel jacket on—the man with the bundle got past, but Creamer was stopped, and he came back—I said, "You are the man that was with him"—he said, "What do you know about it?"—I said, "I know you were with him"—and he took to his heels, and ran off—I had known him well for years.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-543
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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543. MICHAEL SMITH and DENNIS WALKER were indicted for stealing, on the 20th of January, 1 pair of half-boots, value 2s. 6d., the goods of Thomas Conolly.

BENJAMIN PUTNEY . I live in Monmouth-street. On the 20th of January I saw the prisoner Smith take a pair of half-boots from the cellar of Thomas Conolly, and put them into Walker's apron—they ran away with them—I alarmed the prosecutor—his son ran and caught Walker—I am sure the prisoners are the boys—they were not out of my sight.

THOMAS CONOLLY . I keep the cellar in Monmouth-street—my attention was called to this—I went out—my son had taken Walker, and he had the half-boots—I kept Walker—my son pursued and caught Smith.

JOHN CONOLLY . I went in pursuit—I took Walker with the boots in his apron—I then took Smith.

SMITH— GUILTY .*—Aged 13.

WALKER— GUILTY .*—Aged 14.

Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-544
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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544. ALFRED JONES was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of January, 1 horse-cloth, value 9s., the goods of John Fereira Da Costa.—2nd COUNT, stating it to belong to William Barker.

WILLIAM BARKER . I drive Mr. John Fereira Da Costa's cab. This horse-cloth was his, and was on the seat of the cab—I was coming along with it on the 22nd of January, a little before seven o'clock in the evening, and missed it—I got down, and saw the prisoner running with it under his—the officer took him—this is the cloth—I know it could not have fallen.

Prisoner's Defence. I picked it up.

GUILTY .* Aged 22.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-545
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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545. EDWARD ELLIOTT was indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of January, 1 table, value 3l., the goods of William Russell.

SOLOMON HARRIS . On the 23rd of January I saw a person take a table from Mr. Russell's shop in Oxford-street, and give it to another person—I went to Mr. Russell's to ask if it was all right—he said not, and we pursued and found the prisoner with it on his shoulder—I cannot swear whether he is the person who took it, or the one I saw receive it.

WILLIAM RUSSELL . The table was mine, and was taken from my shop—I do not know by whom.

Prisoner's Defence. I was going down the street, and a man asked me to carry it.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-546
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceNo Punishment > sentence respited

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546. JOHN GILLETT was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of January, 1 shovel, value 2s., the goods of William Appleton.

GEORGE GLADWELL (police-constable G 231.) I emt the prisoner with this shovel in his hand, on the 8th of January—he told me he had stolen it from a shop in Old-street—I knew him, and thought he was

joking, but he said if I did not take him, somebody else should, for he was determined to go out of the country.

WILLIAM APPLETON . I live in Old-street. This shovel is my pattern, and has my mark on it—I have no doubt it is mine.

GEORGE MILLS . I am apprenticed to the prosecutor. I have no doubt this is his shovel—I had seen the prisoner pass about three o'clock that afternoon.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Judgment Respited.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-547
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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547. JOSEPH NEWIN was indicted for stealing, on the 9th of December, 3 fowls, value 9s., the goods of Edward Rogers.

WILLIAM CHURCH . I know the house and premises of Mr. Rogers, near Kingsland turnpike—he keeps fowls—on the 8th or 9th of December I saw three fowls sitting on the grain-tub—at a quarter past twelve o'clock I saw the prisoner and another lad come round the gate—the other had something in his hand by way of enticing the cock, and the prisoner caught a fowl in his hand—I ran for the policeman, but could not find him—I came back, told Rogers, and he missed the three fowls which had been on the grain-tub—I am sure the prisoner is one of the boys—I had seen him once before.

CHARLES GIBSON . I was with Church on Kingsland-green—we saw this lad and another make a snatch at the fowls—we ran for the policeman, and when we came back the lads and the fowls were gone.

ANN HOBDELL . I bought a fowl of a respectable woman—she asked me 2s. for it—I gave her 1s. 9d.—she said she lived at the toll-bar down the street—I cannot find her—I bought it about six weeks ago, in December.

THOMAS JOHNSON . I was in Hobdell's shop about six weeks ago, when the prisoner brought in a Poland fowl for sale—it had a mixed top-knot—I cannot say what he asked for it.

GEORGE HOBDELL . I bought two Poland fowls of the prisoner—one I put into the pens, the other I did not—Mr. Rogers came and claimed the one in the pens, the other I sold.

JOHN HOLLAND (police-constable N 234.) I was on duty on the 26th of January, and took the prisoner, from Church's information—there was another boy with him, who ran off.

HEZEKIAH WILMER (police-constable N 202.) I produce the fowl.

EDWARD ROGERS . I live at Kingsland-green. This is my fowl—I lost three—I found this at Mr. Hobdell's shop.

GUILTY . Aged 15.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-548
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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548. JOSEPH HAMAN was indicted for stealing, on the 11th of January, 1 handkerchief, value 2s., the goods of a man unknown.

THOMAS MAGUIRE . I am a boot-closer. On the 11th of January I was in Chiswell-street about ten minutes past eleven o'clock—I was at the corner of Whitecross-street—I saw the prisoner and another behind a gentleman sixty or seventy years old—the prisoner held up his pocket and took his handkerchief out—he turned down Whitecross-street, and wiped his nose with it—I called Martin, and gave him in charge—I ran after the gentleman and said, "You have lost your handkerchief"—he felt and said, "So I have"—I said, "If you will come with me, I will show you the young man"—he came back a few paces, and then said he would come no further.

JOHN MARTIN . I am a police-constable. I received the prisoner from the witness—I do not know the gentleman.

GUILTY . Aged 18.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury.— Confined Six Months.

OLD COURT, Thursday, Feb. 5, 1835.

Second Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-549
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence; Guilty > lesser offence

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549. SUSAN HICKIEN and SARAH HOPWOOD were indicted for stealing, on the 20th of January, 7 printed books, value 3l. 17s.; 1 pincushion, value 1l.; 2 handkerchiefs, value 8s.; 2 scent bottles, value 10s.; 30 prints, value 18s.; 2 jars, value 15s.; 1 comb, value 2s.; 6 counters, value 6s.; and 2 embossed cards, value 1s.; the goods of Charles Wilthew, in the dwelling-house of Elizabeth Wilthew.

CHARLES WILTHEW, ESQ . I am a Colonel in the Columbian service, and live with my mother, at No. 4, Edge ware-road, in the parish of Paddington. The prisoners were servants to my mother—Hickien was the cook, and Hopwood the house-maid—in October, I missed several articles, and accused the prisoners of it—they denied all knowledge of it—I received two anonymous letters afterwards, and requested my mother to discharge them, but it was not done—on account of information I received in one of the letters, and other information which I received afterwards, I went down to Tooting, in Surrey, last Tuesday week, in company with an officer, to the house of Mr. Ricardo, and requested to speak to Fanny Hendy, who was in his service—the officer told her who he was, and asked her if she had not a box—she immediately said she had, and gave it up, locked—it was forced open in my presence—it contained a variety of articles, and among the rest, those stated in the indictment, which belong to me—we came to town—the officer took the box, and next morning two officers came and took the prisoners into custody at my mother's house—Hickien went into the front parlour, and the other into the back parlour, where I was—I told her I was very sorry for her, for I believed she was a very good girl when she came into my mother's service, and that she had been corrupted by the other—I asked if she knew Fanny Hendy—she said she did not—I asked if she never went out for a holiday with such a person—she said she went out with a young woman, but did not know her name—their trunks were searched, but nothing found belonging to me—we went into the other parlour, where the other officer and Hickien, the cook, were—some questions were asked respecting the box found at Tooting—they denied all knowledge of it—one of the officers said, "Perhaps you will recollect the contents of the box, if I read you a list of the articles," which he did—Hickien then said, "Well, Sir, since you have found out about the box, I confess that we did take the things, but we throw ourselves on your mercy, and if you will forgive us, you shall never hear of our doing wrong again"—she said they had merely taken the books to read, and after I had made a disturbance about them they were afraid to put them back—I said, "Then I suppose you took the linen and other things to read too;" and that I had missed so many things I could not forgive them—the property is worth 7l. 7s., at the lowest value.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Was the officer present when you had the conversation with Hickien? A. Yes—I am certain she said we took them—I missed the articles from time to time—as I missed them, I

inquired for them—I missed them all within a few days—they were left on the drawing-room table—my mother did not send them away when I requested her—she had not a high opinion of them, but she is an elderly person, and too indulgent to servants, and did not wish to have new faces in the house—both the prisoners have been excessively impudent to me—I have not been particularly angry with them—I never spoke an angry word to them before the articles were missed—I do not meddle with the servants—all these articles belong to me—I have had them in my possession since August—most of them were given to me.

PHILIP PARISH . I am a policeman. I was fetched to the house, and heard the conversation between the Colonel and the prisoners—Hidden said, "I hope you will forgive us"—I said, "Why do you say us?" she said, "We are both guilty alike"—I fetched Hopwood into the room, and Hickien said, "Sarah, I have confessed that we are both guilty—now pray with me, that we may be forgiven"—she made no answer—I found a key on Hickien, which fits the box found at Tooting.

FANNY HENDY . I am servant to Mr. Ricardo at Tooting. I have known Hickien about twelve months, and Hopwood longer—the box was sent to me by Hopwood, and I kept it till I gave it up to the officer.

Cross-examined. Q. Did Hopwood say she sent it at the request of any body? A. I was to take care of it for Hickien.

Hickien. Sarah Hopwood is quite innocent.



Stealing under the value of £5.

Transported for Seven Years.

Hopwood recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor and Jury.

There was another indictment against the prisoners.

Before Mr. Justice Vaughan.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-550
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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550. THOMAS SMITH was indicted for a rape.


Before Mr. Justice Vaughan.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-551
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown
SentenceTransportation; Transportation

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551. ANN FLYNN and MARY ANN HAMLET were indicted for that they, on the 20th of January, feloniously, knowingly, and without lawful excuse, had in their possession a mould, upon which was impressed the figure and apparent resemblance of one of the sides, to wit, the obverst side of a shilling.—2nd COUNT, stating it to be impressed with the reverse side.

The HON. MR. SCARLETT and MR. ELLIS conducted the Prosecution.

RICHARD TRIPP (policeman T 161.) On Tuesday, the 20th of January, in consequence of information which I received about half-past five o'clock in the evening, I proceeded to Pearl-court, Church-street, St. Giles, with Matthews and Denton, my brother constables—there are two rooms in the house, one at the bottom, and one at the top—I found the outer door open—I proceeded up stairs, and found the room door closed—I put my shoulder against it, and forced it open—I found a chair had been placed behind it to keep it close—I did not notice, but I have no doubt it was on the latch—it required the weight of my body to get it open—I saw the two prisoners standing close to the fire-place—there was a large, clear coke fire—my attention was then called away by a dog attacking me from under the bed—I beat it off with my staff—I turned round then,

and my brother officers had secured the prisoners—Flynn said, "What do you want here? what is it you want?"—I told her she knew what we wanted as well as I did myself—she replied, "Thank God, you have not seen us do any thing; you cannot hang us"—I commenced searching, and while I was searching, Hamlet said, "Thank God, you cannot hang us; you saw us doing nothing"—I searched on the hearth, near the fender, and found a mould—it was closed—I took it up, and found it was warm—I opened it, and found a base shilling in it, quite hot, having been recently coined—I gave the mould to Matthews, with the shilling in it, in the state I found it—on searching further in the ashes, I picked up four more base shillings and two iron spoons—on the hearth were some bits of metal, apparently recently melted—I gave them to Matthews—on the shelf I found a paper bag of plaster of Paris—I gave that to Matthews—I told the prisoners to prepare themselves to go with me—Hamlet said, "Am I to go? I have done nothing"—Flynn replied, "You know you must go—and all that is found in the room"—I then left Denton in charge of the room—Matthews and I took the prisoners to Bow-street—I returned in about a quarter of an hour by myself, and found Denton still there—on searching more minutely on the hearth of the fire-place, I found a small file, which I produce—Denton found a shilling on the coke, within the fire-grate, on the fire—it was on a piece of coke on the top of the fire which was not burnt—we left the room, and gave the shilling to Matthews at Bow-street—I saw nothing of Flynn's husband—he has been transported—her two children were in the room, one is about eight, and the other about four years old.

Flynn. There is neither latch, bolt, nor lock to the door. Witness. I thought it was on the latch; but I cannot gay whether there was a latch—there was a clear coke fire.

BENJAMIN WILLIAM MATTHEWS . I accompanied Tripp and Denton. If entered the room close behind Tripp—he was assailed by a large white-dog on entering the room—while he was beating it off, I secured Flynn, and Denton the other prisoner—I was by the side of Tripp, and saw him find the mould and other things, which I produce—he put them into my hand as he picked them up—here is a mould with a shilling in it—both the mould and shilling were hot—I saw him find three other shillings inside the fire-place, within the fender—here are some pieces of metal which he gave me, but I did not see him find them—I produce a bag of plaster of Paris which he found on the mantel-piece, and another shilling, which he afterwards gave me—I produce two iron spoons, which I saw him find inside the fire-place.

JOHN DENTON . I am a policeman. I have been present, and heard what the witnesses have stated—I confirm their evidence—I saw the whole transaction—I remained in the room—while Matthews was absent I found a shilling on a piece of unbornt coke in the back of the gate—there was a large coke fire.

JOHN FIELD . I am Inspector to the Mint, and have been so twenty-years. This is a plaster of Paris mould—it has the impression of both the obverse and reverse sides of a shilling—the impressions are quite perfect—there is a shilling in the mould now—here is the get which fills the channel to the mould—it is attached to the shilling—it fits the mould—it was cast in this mould clearly—the mould and shilling correspond in all respects—the shilling has the impression of the obverse and reverse sides—the mould has been used for some time, apparently; for it is cracked, and the appear-ances

of the cracks are on the shilling—these spoons appear to have been used to melt metal—one spoon fits the mouth of the mould exactly—it is pinched up in a peculiar way to fit it—the other five shillings have been all cast in that mould, I have not a doubt—these pieces of metal appear to have been spilt from the mould—a coke fire would answer the purpose of coining—it is Britannia metal, which is a mixture of tin and antimony—here is a bag of plaster of Paris—a file is necessary to remove the surplus metal round the edge of the shilling—I find here every thing necessary for the purpose.

(Flynn put in a written defence, stating that she occupied the room with another woman—that she had gone out just before the officers arrived, during which time the articles must have been placed there by some person.)

Hamlet's Defence. I happened to be in the room when the officers came up.

FLYNN— GUILTY . Aged 26.— Transported for Life.

HAMLET— GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Seven Years.

Before Mr. Justice Patteson.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-552
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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552. DANIEL O'DONNELL was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of December, at St. Pancras, 1 box, value 2s.; 54 spoons, value 40l.; 1 butter knife, value 21s.; 1 pair of sugar-tongs, value 20s.; 1 muffineer, value 30s.; 25 forks, value 23l.; 5 ladles, value 6l.; 1 wine-strainer, value 3l.; 1 mustard-pot, value 3l.; 1 candlestick, value 3l.; and 1 fish-slice, value 3l. 10s.; the goods of Mary Ann Moore, his mistress, in her dwelling-house.

MR. CRESSWELL conducted the Prosecution.

MRS. MARY ANN MOORE . I am a widow, and live at No. 77, Cruflford-street, Russell-square, in the parish of St. Pan crag. The prisoner was my footman—he came into my service on the 24th of November last—I had the plate stated in the indictment, at that time—when I hire a new servant, I count over the plate which I give into his charge, and give him an inventory—I did so when the prisoner came—I have the plate always brought up to my bed-room at night by the house maid—she takes it down the following morning, and delivers it to the footman—on the morning of the 20th of December, the house-maid took the plate-box out of my room—I had some of it in use on my breakfast-table, and at lunch—the prisoner waited at both those meals—I have a son a proctor, who resides in Doctors' Commons—I very frequently go and dine with him—when he has a party larger than usual, he requires some of my plate; and I had a box made for the purpose of sending it backwards and forwards—it is a smaller box than the one which is carried up to my bed-room—when I went to dine with my son, it was the prisoner's duty to accompany me, to wait at table—on the 20th of December, I was engaged to dine with my son—the prisoner had notice to attend me, as usual, to wait at table—there was no plate required to go to Doctors' Commons that day—after taking lunch, I went out to take a walk with a friend, about two o'clock, and returned about four o'clock—I then saw a man standing in my passage—I asked the cook who he was—she was in the passage—the prisoner was down stairs—the man went up into the drawing-room—he was a glazier, and went up to mend a window which the man-servant had broken—the cook accompanied him—I saw her in the drawing-room with him—she was holding him a light—I went up stairs to dress about five o'clock, while the man and

the cook were in the drawing-room—the housemaid and my daughter went up with me—there was nobody in the lower part of the house but the prisoner—(he was there when I came home—he had opened the door to me, and apologised for keeping me waiting)—when I was dressed, I came down stairs to proceed to Doctors' Commons—I inquired for the prisoner, but he was gone—I was not alarmed at that, as he frequently went before me—on arriving at my son's, he was not there—he did not come there during that evening—I returned home about a quarter before eleven o'clock—the prisoner was not there—I inquired if he had been home—my suspicions were aroused—I searched in his pantry first, and then in the plate-box, which the maid had taken up into my room—it was quite empty—I missed the articles stated in the indictment, and have not seen any of them since.

ELIZA COLE . I am housemaid to Mrs. Moore. On the night of the 19th I took the large plate-box up to her bed-room—on the morning of the 20th, I took it down to the footman's pantry—I did not give it into the prisoner's hands—I put it in the cupboard where it is usually kept, in his pantry—I went up stain to dress my mistress about five o'clock—the cook was up in tile drawing-room, I think, but I am not sure—the prisoner was in the pantry—I had instructions from mistress to tell him to be ready to go with her to Doctors' Commons—I went down for that purpose, but did not find him—about nine o'clock I went to the pantry to take the plate up stairs—the box was then empty—I took it up to my mistress's bed-room—I did not see the prisoner again that evening—I was up when mistress returned—when she inquired for the plate-box, I said I had taken it up stairs empty.

PHILIP CHAELES MOORE . I am a proctor, and reside at Doctors' Commons. In consequence of information of this robbery on the 21st of December, I caused handbills to be printed, and received information on the 5th of January from Bourke and Thompson—I accompained them to North Audley-street—I arrived at a house about eleven o'clock, and while there I heard a ring at the bell—Bourke weat down stain immediately—I followed him—Thompson was waiting in the street—I found the prisoner in the passage—I seized him by the collar, and said, "Daniel O'Donnell"—he said, "Yes, Sir," acknowledging his name—I said, "Are you not ashamed of having robbed my mother of her plate?"—his reply was, "Yes, I am, Sir"—I then gave him in charge of the policeman.

PATRICK BOURKE (police-constable D 19.) In consequence of information, I went with Mr. Moore to North Audley-street—Thompson went with us—I went up stairs—I heard a ring at the bell, I came down stairs; and, on coming down, I saw the prisoner—I asked him if his name was William Hill—he said, "Yes"—I asked him if he wanted a situation—he said, "Yes"—after a little time, he asked me if I wanted him—I was in my uniform—I said I could not tell at the moment—upon that Mr. Moore came up, and seized him by the collar, and said, "What, Daniel O'Donnell!"—he said, "Yes, Sir." Mr. Moore said, "Are you not ashamed of yourself for robbing my mother of her plate?"—he said, "Yes, I am"—I then opened the door—Thompson was standing outside, and we took him into custody.

THOMAS HENRY THOMPSON (police-sergeant D 4.) On the 5tn of January I accompanied the witnesses to North Audley-street—I remained outside—I saw the prisoner pass me, and go to No. 39, North Audley-street—he went in—I remained at the door, and afterwards took him into

custody—as we went to the station-house, some conversation passed between Bourke and him, but I was on the other side of him, and did not hear it—when I got him to the station-house, I asked him if he knew what he was taken into custody for—he said, "Yes," it was in consequence of Mr. Moore being there—I have some articles which I took from him at the station-house, but they do not relate to the plate.

HENRY WILLIAM MORRISON . I am gaoler at Marylebone police-office. On the prisoner being examined, I was taking him to prison the second time, when he was re-committed—I did not hold out any threat or promise to him—on being locked up in a cell with many prisoners, he said it was very uncomfortable there being so many, and I took him to another lock-up place, and put him by himself—he then asked me if I knew whether a man named Griffiths was taken into custody—I said I did not know; I believed not—he said, "He ought to be—I am sorry for it—he is the man who has brought me into this trouble—he advised me to commit the offence for which I am placed here"—I then left him—on going to him again, he asked for some refreshment; which I accordingly allowed him—he requested to know at what time he should go away in the van, and which way we should go; whether we should go directly from there to the prison—I told him the route we took—he said, "I should like to go another way if you could make it convenient;" and not at all being out of the way, I said I would go that way, not knowing at the time his reason—when I called him out of the lock-up place, I wanted to know his motive for wishing to go round a particular way—he said, "Why, I with to show you where I took the plate to; where we sold it"—I said, "I do not want to know any thing about that"—he said, "I wish to show you where the plate was taken to, that that fellow, Griffiths, should be taken into custody"—we went the way he wished to go, and he pointed to a house where he said they went to with the plate, which was in Broad-street, Bloomsbury—he said, "The plate was not sold there—it was taken from us, and carried by a boy; and from there we went down a street—if you will allow me to wait a moment, I will point out the street to you," being still in the road to Bow-street, where I had to call for more prisoners—he showed me the house where the plate was sold, and told me what part of the house, and what he got for it—I then went on to the prison with him; and, at the third examination, he was very anxious to know whether Griffiths was taken into custody—I said I believed not—he asked several times whether Griffiths was in the office—I said I did not know—at last some friends outside gave him information that Griffiths was in the office—he asked me if he was going to be committed, as he ought to be—I said, "I know nothing about it;" and just as we were going away, I took him some refreshment—he said, "When we go down again in the van, I will show you where we threw the box;" but, at the time of starting, he said, "I wish to explain to you where we went to, and probably I can describe it better than I can show it—on coming out from the house where I showed you where we sold the plate, and got the money for it, we turned to the right hand after coming out of the house, which led us into Long-acre—there is a new house building in Long-acre, opposite the end of the street; and there is a hoard round it; and when we got to that, we threw the box over the hoard"—he said "we" all the time—I said, "We?" he said, "I mean that vagabond, Griffiths—we threw the box over the hoard,"—I afterwards went to make inquiry, and found Thomas Langthorpe, in consequence of information—he lived at

No. 17, Huntley-street, Tottenham-court-road—when I got there, I saw Mrs. Langthorpe; I went with her into the kitchen, and found the box, which I produce—it was fresh painted when I found it—I rubbed off some of the paint, as it was not quite dry—the box appears to have had partitions in it, which are now taken out.

THOMAS LANGTHORPE . I am a bricklayer, and live at No. 17, Huntley-street. A few days before Christmas-day, I was at work at some premises in Long-acre—it is called Phoenix-alley—I do not know the number—I found this box there—I took it home, and gate it to ray wife.

CATHERINE LANOTHORPE . I am the wife of the last witness. He gave me this box—it was painted brown at the time he gave it to me—I afterwards painted it white, as it is now—it had partitions in it then—I gave it to Morrison.

WILLIAM CLARK . I am a milkman, and live in Dudley-row, Kingsland-road. I was in Mrs. Moore's service about seven months ago—I know this box to be hers, by the hinges being put outside, and puttied over—I made it myself—I am sure it is her property.

MR. MOORE re-examined. I had no other tax than the small one Clark made for me to carry the plate to Doctors' Commons in—I believe this to be the box—the plate stolen is worth 80l.

(Frances Patterson, wife of James Patterson, a tailor, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 25.— Transported for Life.

Before Mr. Justice Patteson.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-553
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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553. FREDERICK WILLIAM RAGGETT was indicted stealing, on the 9th of January, at St. James, Westminster, 11 spoons, value 3l.; 4 forks, value 2l. 10s.; and 1 pair of sugar-tongs, value 10s.; the goods of Atkinson Morley, his master, in his dwelling house.

ATKINSON MORLEY . I keep the Burlington Hotel. The prisoner was in my service about three months during the past year—I engaged him from the 2nd to the 9th of January, as a temporary waiter—two days after he left, I missed the articles stated in the indictment—the prisoner is very respectably connected.

CHARLES PARROT . I live at No. 7, Bloonsbury-market. I saw the prisoner on the 9th of January, and he asked me if I would pledge some plate for him—he gave me some spoons and forks, I do not know how many—they were wrapped up in paper—I did not count them at all—I saw them opened at the pawnbroker's—I took them to Mr. Barker's, a pawnbroker's, and pawned them for £2—I brought that money to the prisoner—that was on the 9th.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Where did he give you the spoons? A. At Mr. Blankley's, Bloomsbury-market, where I work—he is a painter and glazier—I am certain I received them from the prisoner's own hands—I never said differently—I have been in Mr. Blankley's employ three or four years—the prisoner gave them to me in the parlour of my master's house—my master was in the parlour.

JOHN DYER . I am a medical student, and live in Greek-street. The prisoner brought two duplicates to me on Monday, the 15th of January—he told me the property which was pledged belonged to Mr. Blankley, who was distressed, and he wished to raise a few more shillings on the property—I knew Mr. Blankley to have been his late landlord—I took the duplicates to Mr. Vaughan, a pawnbroker, in the Strand—they were both

for plate pawned with Barker—Vaughan's servant undertook to redeem the property, which was pawned for £2.

Cross-examined. Q. How long have you been a medical student? A. Four years—I have known the prisoner some months—the duplicate for 2l. was for spoons and forks, I believe, and the other one was for two forks pawned for 12s.—I did not get any money from Vaughan—Vaughan's servant redeemed the property for 2l., but gave me no money—I never said I received 1l. 15s. from him.

CHARLES VAUGHAN . I am a pawnbroker. John Michael Jones was my servant, and attended my shop—I have some plate—it was purchased by Jones—he gave it to me—I was not present when he received it—he sent the porter to redeem it—I did not see it brought into my shop—I have not seen Jones since last Monday—he continued in my service up to that time, and went before the Grand Jury—my porter is not here—his name is Coleman—he was not examined—there were no duplicates accompanying the plate—I advanced no money on it.

(John Michael Jones being called, did not appear.)

EDWARD SMITH . I am shopman to Mr. Flemming, a pawnbroker. I have one tea-spoon and two salt-spoons pawned with me by the prisoner on the 13th of January, for 10s.—I had seen him before, and am quite certain of him.

Cross-examined. Q. For how long did you see him when he came to pawn the spoons? A. About ten minutes—there might be other people in the shop—I might have seen him for five minutes or more—he had been in the habit of pledging at our shop before—I have not the slightest doubt of him.

GEORGE AVIS . I am an officer. I know the prisoner—after he was in custody at the office, I had some conversation with him on Monday, the 19th—I made use of no promise or threat—I told him I had Charles Parrot in custody, who had pawned the articles at Mr. Barker's for 2l.—he said he had sent him to pledge them.

Cross-examined. Q. How long have you been an officer? A. Nearly sixteen years—that was all that took place—I named spoons and forks to him—I told him Parrot told me he had returned him the duplicate and money—he said it was right—I made no memorandum of the conversation—there is never any objection made to our entering into conversation with prisoners—I wished him to know the party who pawned the property was in custody—he was told so in the office before—my object was not to get him to make a statement—all I said to him was, that Parrot was in custody.

(William Rose, hotel-keeper, Dover-street; George Reed, fishmonger, Borough; and Charles Simmons, a wine-merchant, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY of stealing to the value of 18s. only.— Confined One Year.

Before Mr. Justice Vaughan.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-554
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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554. WILLIAM BRANSGROVE was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of January, at Hayes, 1 sheep, value 2l., the goods of William Welch.—2nd COUNT. For killing, with intent to steal the carcass.

MR. PHILLIPS conducted the Prosecution.

SAMUEL WYATT . I am shepherd to Mr. William Welch, of Southall, a farmer. He had 153 sheep in Bull's-bridge-field—I counted them on Saturday, the 10th of January—they were all safe a little before five

o'clock in the evening—I went to the field again just after the clock struck nine, and one of them laid there killed—it was a wether, and a long-woolled sheep—it was opened, and the pluck and head gone, and some other parts—it was a two-tooth sheep—some pieces were cut out off the legs, and gone—I took home the skin, and the rest of the sheep—I dressed the meat and kept the skin—I skinned it at home—it was a Leicester sheep.

JOHN VENABLES . I am a constable. On Sunday morning, the 11th of January, I went to the prisoner's house, in Southall-green, with a warrant—Joseph Harvey, Mr. Welch's steward, went with me—the prisoner was just coming out of the door—I said, "Bransgrove, I want you," and we went into his place—I said, "Bransgrove, I have a warrant to search your place"—Harvey was close behind me—I saw Harvey take a plate off the shelf with a sheep's head in it—the wool was off it; and in another plate on the table there was the pluck, the head, liver, and lights—we brought it all away, and took the prisoner into custody.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Do you live at Southall? A. Yes, about a quarter of a mile from the prisoner's—Bull's-bridge-field is about half a mile from the prisoner's—poor people sometimes buy a sheep's head and pluck—I have known the prisoner a year and a half—I never had him in custody—he has a wife and two children.

JOSEPH HARVEY . I am bailiff to Mr. Welch. I went with the constable to the prisoner's house—I asked where he purchased the head and pluck—he said he bought it—I said, "Where did you buy it?"—he said, "I bought it"—I said, "Bransgrove, I will ask you once more, where did you come in possession of this sheep's head and pluck?"—he said, "It is no difference to you where I came in possession of it, I bought it"—I then gave him in charge—I took the head and pluck out of his house, and took him before Lord Montford—I took His clothes off at the workhouse, after we brought him from the magistrate, and his shoes also—I took them home to my house, and went to Bull's-bridge-field with the shoes and corresponded them to the marks close to the fold, and found they did correspond exactly with the foot-marks—the weather was very dry, but it is ploughed land close to the fold—I observed a good deal of blood on the side of his waistcoat, and some blood on one of his shoes—I know Goring, a butcher—I was present when he corresponded the head of the sheep to the carcass which Wyatt brought him—he fitted the head to the neck where it was cut off—Wyatt and I put the carcass on the table, and Goring fitted the head to it—it appeared to me to fit in every respect—the carcass had been skinned at that time—we did not fit it to the skin.

Cross-examined. Q. Was the skin of the head in the other part of the skin of the sheep? A. No, the head was skinned—the patrol was, with me when I compared the foot-marks—they fitted in lengthy in width, and the nails—I fitted, to the best of my recollection, three impression of the right foot, and three of the left—there was a deficiency of nails in the shoes, and a corresponding deficiency in the marks—I produce the shoes I did not count the nail-marks—I did not make any impression on the ground first—we put the shoe down into the foot-marks made by the shoe before—there had been no rain, to the beat of my recollection—we made the comparison on Monday, the 11th of January—there was very little rain on the Sunday—there was no rain at all an Sunday in she daytime, but I believe there was a little on the Sunday night, and very little—I did not see it rain; but in the morning the ground appeared rather damp—I believe there was no rain on Saturday—the field was followed

close to the fold—it had not been harrowed—I should think it had been ploughed three or four weeks—it was not in clumps, but very fine—it is a loam soil—all the six marks fitted—to the best of my recollection, they were all going from the fold; but I cannot be certain—I traced them on the headland, which is close to the fold—there were some marks in the furrow, close to the fold, and some in the headland, which is turnips, and not ploughed—there is no grass at all, and very few wheats—I could discover the impression of shoes on the headland distinctly—I cannot say whether there were any impressions going to the fold—he might go into the fold in another direction—I was quite satisfied with the marks.

COURT. Q. Was this the only field in plough? A. Some part of the farm was wheat.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Would not the impression be made plainer on the young wheat than ploughed land? A. No; for the wheat would keep the impression away—he could not walk without walking on the wheat—our fallow is nearly as fine as the wheat-land—I do not think there is any difference between the young wheat and the ploughed land—if we had only drawn the harrow down the field once, it would have been quite as fine.

Q. Were not these shoes made in the country? A. I do not know—perhaps they were made in London—such shoes are made and sold in the villages, and are worn by labouring men—I swear positively these shoes made the impressions I saw.

COURT. Q. I thought you said you did not take notice how many nails were missing from the shoes? A. No; I did not count the nails—I found the shoes were the same length and breadth, and the ball of the foot corresponded—there are three nails in the middle of one shoe, which agreed with three nails made in the impression on the ground.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Were there any men working in the field the day before? A. I believe not; of course the shepherd pitched out his fold—the shepherd wears nailed shoes, and so do I—there were several other marks along the headland, but not by the fold—it would not be the shepherd's business to be on the fallow ground—he might have walked there if he liked—(looking at the shepherd's shoe) this shoe is not so large—if I had seen a mark on the fallow, I could tell whether it was the mark of that shoe, without comparing it, because it is not so large—that is the only difference.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. You have been asked if you remarked any deficiency in the sole of the shoes—point it out? A. There are three nails in the toe gone on one side, and on the other they are good—some are gone, and some worn down—I found three nails on the impression—they corresponded in situation with these three nails; and this single line corresponded—here are the marks of the blood on the shoes now—it is not to fresh as it was on the 10th of January—here is the waistcoat with blood marks on it—somebody has been trying to rub the blood marks out of the waistcoat with chalk.

COURT. Q. Do not shoemakers make shoes for country people generally from the same last? A. No doubt they do so—there are a great many nails gone out of these—when I first saw the blood on the waistcoat on the Sunday, it appeared to have been rubbed out—I did not observe it till then—it was all covered with white chalk—Sunday was the first time I went to his house.

JOSEPH SPILLMAN . I am a Bow-street patrol. I went with Harvey to

Bull's-bridge-field with a pair of shoes on Monday, the 12th, and fitted them to the foot-marks in the ploughed field, within two yards of the fold—I am certain the shoes I fitted, and the footmarks, corresponded.

Cross-examined. Q. How many marks did you see? A. Several, right up the furrow—I saw a dozen of these marks, but not all complete—they were by the side of the field—the furrow runs up the side of the field—the fold is in the top end of the fold—the footsteps were coming from the fold—the toe pointed to go out of the field—I compared the shoes to four marks; two to the right, and two to the left—I took them in my own hands, and fitted them exactly—the bailiff also fitted them in my presence.

COURT. Q. I suppose you took the shoes, and pressed them down on the impression? A. Yes.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Had you observed the impressions before you put the shoe down on them? A. Yes—I was satisfied before I put the shoe down, that the nails were such as the impression would make—I was satisfied with it, and when I put it down, it corresponded in length and breadth—I have not a doubt the impressions were made by these shoes.

THOMAS GORING . I live at Han well-bridge, am a butcher, and I have been so about seventeen years. I fitted the head of a sheep to a carcass, which Wyatt showed me—I fitted the bead to the neck, and it was quite perfect—I can swear the head I fitted came off that carcass—I am certain of it—it was not cut at all in a butcher-like way—quite the reverse—the sinews of the neck were torn off an inch and a half long, and that was deficient in the neck.

S. WYATT re-examined. The sheep I showed Goring was the sheep the carcass of which I took from master's field.

THOMAS GORING . I did not compare the skin; it could not be matched—the bone of the neck was divided at the wrong joint—on putting the bones together, they corresponded—I am certain the head came off that earcast—I have not a shadow of a doubt of it.

Prisoner's Defence. I have witnesses to prove that I was at home at the time this was lost.

FRANCES LEEMING . I am single, and live at Southall-green—the prisoner is a married man—I remember his being taken up on this charge—I had to nurse a child of his—on the Saturday before the Sunday on which he was taken, he came home from work about five o'clock—I said untill seven o'clock—the prisoner went out at the same time I did—I know the Sugar Loaf public-house—it is on the opposite side of the road to his house—he said he was going to Mrs. Atto, to the Sugar Loaf, for half a pint of beer.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Who else was in the prisoner's house with you at five o'clock, when he came home? A. His wife and child, nobody else—there was a sheep's head there the next day—he brought nothing with him when he came home at five o'clock on Saturday—I saw the sheep's head that night—he told his wife he had bought it in Brentford, is my presence—I did not see him bring it in—the lights and kidney were in the house—he did not say who he bought it of—I observed his clothes at five o'clock, but saw nothing particular on them—his waistcoat was quite clean, as usual.

COURT. Q. What time of the day did you observe the sheep's head and pluck there? A. In the afternoon of Friday—I had been nursing there on the Friday, as the child was bad.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did he tell his wife what he paid for it? A. No—it was laying on a shelf over the door, on the right hand.

Q. What time of day was it he said this? A. On the Friday night—I did not see him come in on the Friday night—I live next door—I went there about twelve o'clock on Friday—I observed the sheep's head some time in the afternoon, about four or five o'clock—I saw the prisoner about six o'clock on Friday night—I saw him come in between twelve and one o'clock; and he came in at six o'clock again, and I saw the sheep's head.

Q. I thought you said you did not see him come in on Friday at all? A. I mean between twelve and one o'clock—his wife did not ask him any questions about the sheep's head and pluck—he said he bought them at Brentford, without her asking any questions—he brought nothing with him when he came in between twelve and one o'clock—the head and pluck were plainly to be seen before he came in.

Q. You did not go in yourself till between twelve and one o'clock? A. Yes—I was there all the morning, nursing—he was from between eight and nine, and twelve o'clock—his wife was up when I went there—I was not in the house when the officers came on Sunday—I went into the house on Sunday, about nine o'clock in the morning, and staid about five minutes—I went in again, just before the search-warrant came, and was there when it came—I heard Venables and Harvey ask him how he came by the sheep's head and pluck, and he said he bought it—I did not hear him say where—I did not hear him say, "What odds is that to you?"—I did not hear Harvey ask him where he bought it—it was outside the house—Mr. Harvey did ask him where he bought it—I heard him say, "Where did you get this sheep's head from?" and he said, "I bought it"—I was against my own door—I did not hear the officers ask him where he bought it—I heard Harvey ask where he bought it, and he said at Brentford—he said he bought it—he did not say at Brentford—I was out of doors, and the prisoner and Mr. Harvey were in doors—they said this out of doors, and in doors too—Harvey asked him how he came by it—he did not make any answer—he said he bought it—I did not bear Harvey ask where he bought it—I heard him ask in doors where he got it from—he said he bought it—the prisoner was going out as they came in—Harvey said, "Where did you buy it?"—prisoner made him no answer—I was at my own place, and did not hear him answer.

Q. On the Saturday night, was there any thing the matter with his waistcoat? A. I did not see any thing, nor hear him complain of it—I was present when the officers brought him out of the house—he did not, in my presence, tell any body where he bad bought it at Brentford.

SOPHIA ATTO . I am married, and keep the Sugar Loaf public-house, about five minutes' walk from where the prisoner lives. I remember the Saturday evening before the Sunday on which he was taken—he came to my house that evening just as the clock was striking seven, and left about a quarter after ten—he took a pint of beer—I have a lodger named Edward Enoch—he was there while the prisoner was there, and never went out.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Do you mean to swear the prisoner was in your house from a quarter after seven till half-past ten o'clock? A. Yes, I can, with a safe conscience—Enoch was with him, but nobody else—the prisoner had nothing but a pint of beer—he and Enoch were drinking together—he had a drop of his beer, and then Enoch had a pint himself—they did not eat any thing—I know a man they call Dr. Fox—he was not in

the house that night—I did not see him that night—Frances Leeming fetched a pot of beer to the prisoner's house—the prisoner was at my house at that time, drinking—she fetched it at very near ten o'clock—Leaning saw him there—I went up stairs with my children to bed, and I do not know whether the prisoner asked her what she wanted the beer for—my biggest boy, Joseph, drew it for her—I heard her ask for it—she paid 4d. for it—I do not know whether the prisoner spoke to her—I staid up stairs about half an hour—the prisoner was still there when I came down—he staid no time after I came down—he paid me 2d. for the beer—Enoch was present when he paid, and he paid me for his—Enoch lodges in my house, and he remained when the prisoner went away—he went to bed about eleven o'clock—my husband did not come home till Sunday morning—I went to bed at the same time as Enoch—I did not observe any blood on the prisoner's clothes—I heard next day that he was taken away by the officers—I did not go before Lord Montford—he wag taken before Lord Montford on the Sunday—I knew he was gone there.

MR. CLARKSON. Did you know that the prisoner was taken to Lord Montford before he was taken, or did you hear of it afterwards? A. I heard of it afterwards—I am not related to the prisoner—I have known him two years, and always heard a good character of him.

EDWARD ENOCH . I lodge at the Sugar Loaf public-house—I remember the prisoner coming there on the Saturday before he was takes, just as the clock had done striking seven—he had a pint of beer—I had some with him, and I had a pint afterwards—he drank some of mine—before he went away he paid for his pint, and I for mine—I have known him two or three years—he is an honest, respectable character, and worked for Mr. Riley at the time.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did any body come into the public-house when you were drinking with the prisoner? A. Yes; there were three or four more there—William Rose was one, and I forget the others—Fanny Leeming came in, and fetched a pot of ale—Mrs. Atto gave her the beer—I think she drew it—I will not be sure—I heard her ask Mrs. Atto for it, and she went and drew it, I believe—I saw her come into the room where we sat, and Fanny Leeming came into the room with the beer after it was drawn—I saw her pay Mrs. Atto for it—she paid her a silver sixpence, for a pot of ale—she did not ask for any change—6d. is always the price of a pot of ale—I have seen her pay 6d. for a pot of ale before—she paid the sixpence in silver, not in halfpence.

Q. On your oath, do you not know the prisoner was in his own house drinking with Dr. Fox? A. No; I will take my oath he was not, for he was with me; for it was the very night the job happened.

JOHN VENABLES re-examined. I took the prisoner into custody on Sunday. I took a pair of spectacles out of his pocket—I said, "You do not wear spectacles, Bransgrove; whose spectacles are these? "he said, "They are Dr. Fox's"—he was asked where was Dr. Fox—he said, "In my house on Saturday night, from seven o'clock in the evening, until twelve o'clock at night"—he said Fanny Leeming was in the house—he said he fetched a good deal of beer for Dr. Fox and himself together—he said Leeming was in the house from seven till twelve o'clock—he said he was there part of the time—he did not tell me what part of the time he was there with Dr. Fox—he said Fox left his house at twelve o'clock—he said Dr. Fox laid the spectacles on the table, that the Doctor got drunk, as well as I could understand, and he got them into his possession—he said

the beer came from Mrs. Atto's—he said three or four pots were fetched in the course of the evening, and Dr. Fox, Leeming, and his wife, drank it, and he himself had part along with them.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. I suppose you were fully possessed of all this conversation with the prisoner when you were first examined? A. Yes; I have not spoken a word to the prosecutor since I have been in Court—I have not been talking to any body about it—I went before Lord Montford on Sunday, the 11th of January—he gave this account about Dr. Fox, on the Sunday, in Lord Montford's office, where the spectacles were taken from him—I was sworn as a witness—Lord Montford took down what I said, it was afterwards read over to me, and I put my name to it—I did not state before Lord Montford this conversation respecting Dr. Fox, because he heard as well as I did what the prisoner said—I did not take notice whether he took it down—he was then acting as a magistrate—I have known Dr. Fox two years—I saw him a week or nine days afterwards, and gave him his spectacles—I did not take him before the magistrate—there was more than one examination—the prisoner did not tell me he had been drinking beer with Enoch at Mrs. Atto's—the bailiff and Mr. Welch were present before Lord Montford when the prisoner said he had been with Dr. Fox.

COURT. Q. Can you form any judgment whether the pluck found on the shelf, was the pluek of a sheep recently killed, or whether it had been killed some days? A. Recently killed—it appeared to me to have been killed on the night before—I went to the prisoner between ten and eleven o'clock on Sunday morning.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. What difference is there between a pluck killed the night before, and two nights before? A. It appeared fresh when I saw it on the Sunday morning—I think it must have been staler if it had been bought before—it looked much fresher than if it had been killed the day before.

THOMAS GORING re-examined. I saw the pluck on Monday morning—I should think it could not have been killed longer than the Saturday—I am sure it could not—from its appearance and the state of the weather it could not have been killed longer than Saturday.

JURY. Q. As it was killed in an unbutcher-like manner, would there not be more blood found on the prisoner's clothes? A. Not at all, as no part, except the head and pluck, were taken away—I could kill a sheep and not have a spot of blood on me—he had no business to have any blood upon him—when a sheep is cut open, there is no blood from the inside—I it is only when it is stuck—I feel certain it must have been killed on the Saturday—I am sure of it, and am sure the head came off that body.

GUILTY . Aged 23.— Transported for Life.

First Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-555
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation; Guilty > with recommendation
SentenceImprisonment; Transportation

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555. JOHN LOCK and JOHN CROWDER were indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Robert Leach, on the 27th of January, at St. Peter-le-Poor, and stealing therein 100lbs. weight of solder, value 2l. 5s., his goods.

ROBERT LEACH . I live at No. 16, Old Broad-street, in the parish of St. Peter-le-Poor, in the City. On Tuesday afternoon, the 27th of January, I left my shop about four o'clock—I rent the wholehouse—it is my dwelling-house but I let out part as offices—I returned about twenty minutes or half-past four o'clock, and observed the prisoner Lock in the middle of my shop, which

is the darkest part of the shop—it was quite daylight—I went into the shop, and Lock retired to the head of the cellar stairs—it was darker there than where I first saw him—I said, "Who is there?"—he made no reply—I repeated the question again, and said, "What do you want? come out, and let me see what you are like"—after some hesitation, I saw him take two bars of solder out of his left hand breeches pocket, and put them down by his side against the cellar stairs—he then came to me, at I stood in the middle of the shop—I saw two more bars of solder in his right hand breeches pocket—I asked him what business he had there—he said he had been to ease himself, and shrunk his shoulders up as if he was ill—I said, "It appears you came to load yourself instead of easing yourself"—I took him towards the shop door, then collared him, and drew the two bars of solder out of his pocket—he then began begging for mercy and said one of my men bad given him the solder—I said he was one of a gang which infested plumbers' shops, and I would make an example of him and give him in charge—I had about 12cwt. of solder in a pile in my shop, and from that pile I missed about 1cwt., which is six casts—a cast is four bars together—I went into the cellar, and found Crawder concealed in the dust-bin, and observed some solder bars there—that was not the place they should have been in—I kept some of my solder in the counting-house, but never kept any in the cellar—Crowder worked for me last summer—I lost more solder than I found, either in the cellar or on Lock—feeling it could not all be taken at one time by one man, mode me look in the cellar—I found three casts close to where Crowder was concealed in the cellar—the solder found is mine.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did you know Lock before? A. Not at all—there was no solder in the dust-bin—it, was standing outside the dust-bin, not concealed—I cannot say whether I had been in the cellar that afternoon—I saw it in its usual place before 1 went out—there was 10 or 12cwt. in a pile, which was up to as high as they would go under a shelf—as high as possible—I have but two men in my employ—I left neither of them on the premises—I left nobody in the shop when I went away—my men were both out—the shop door was shut, but not locked—it was on the latch—there is a secret latch, which none but those acquainted with, the premises can open—they can open it by leaning over—it is a short hatch door, about three feet high—the folding door over it was left open—a man might get over the hatch door—my house it in a yard which is open to the street—the shop communicates with the dwelling-house, and is under the same roof.

COURT. Q. There was nothing to prevent a person climbing over the open door into the shop? A. Nothing whatever—the solder taken that day is worth 2l. 5s.

WILLIAM PARTINOTON . I am in the prosecutor's employ. I came into, the shop about four o'clock; and shortly after, Crowder came in with another man, and asked me for a job—I said we were very slack, and had nothing to do—they stopped there about five minutes, and then we all came out together—they opened the door, and came in—when I had got the square of glass, which I was cutting to put in a window, they came out with me—we all came out together—I went to pot in a square of glass, and know nothing further.

JOHN KIMBER . I am a ticket-porter, and live in Charles-street, Hackney-road. I was in a counting-house up Mr. Leach's passage—he came

out, and sent me for a policeman—I got one—he gave the prisoner Lock into custody.

HENRY DALE . I am a servant at No. 10, Old Broad-street. I was coming up the passage, about half-past three o'clock, and saw Crowder with some solder in his hand—it appeared tucked up his sleeve—as he went out of the passage, he turned his face away from me.

JAMES DROVER . I am an officer. I took Lock into custody, and have the solder which I received from the prosecutor.

GEORGE PORTER . I am an officer. I took Crowder into custody.

Lock's Defence. It was given to me by a man in Broad-street—I went to ask Mr. Leach for a job, and he came in and found me there.

(Edward Jones, cow-keeper, Spa-fields; William Jones, 3, Norway-street, Old-street; and Robert Barker, Church-row, Houndsditch, deposed to the prisoner Crowder's good character; and Henry Griffin, Lizard-street, Old-street, tailor; John Tongue, tailor, Queen-street, Tower-hill; and William Sillow, plumber, Brunswick-street, Blackfriars'-road, to that of the prisoner Lock.)

LOCK— GUILTY . Aged 30.— Confined Six Months.

CROWDER— GUILTY . Aged 25.— Transported for Seven Years.—Of Stealing only.

Both recommended to mercy by the Jury, and Lock by the Prosecutor.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-556
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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556. REUBEN LESTER was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of January, at Hillingdon, 1 mare, price 12l.; 1 saddle, value 10s.; and 1 bridle, value 6d.; the goods of Francis David Mudd.

ROBERT LOFTS . I am a labourer, and live at Gedding, in Suffolk. I have seen a mare called a galloway, in possession of Fair—it is the property of Mr. Francis David Mudd, of Gedding—on the 15th of January, I was in Mr. Mudd's yard—the mare was safe that morning in the yard—I saw it—I missed it next day between one and two o'clock—Fair had it in Middlesex—I know Charles Meades—I saw him produce the same animal—I lost a saddle and bridle with it—it is worth 12l.

CHARLES MEADES . I keep the Crown at Colam-green, near Hillingdon. On the 17th of January, the prisoner brought a galloway mare to my house—Lofts saw the same mare with me—the prisoner asked me to take care of it for a few days, as he was going to stop a few days with his friends—he took it out, and rode it more than two or three times—it was in my stable from Saturday, the 17th, until the following Saturday, the 24th, when Fair came and questioned him, and took him into custody.

WILLIAM SAVEREY . I live at Hillingdon, and am a pork-butcher. On the 23rd of January, I went to a neighbour's house to sell some pigs; and when I came out, I saw the prisoner about a quarter of a mile from the Crown, with a Mr. Lomas—I went with them to the Crown; and in a short rime, I understood the prisoner had a pony to sell—I asked him if it was so—he said yes—I had seen it before, and asked if he would take 7l. for it—he said, "Come and see it"—I went, and he had it out; and having 5l. 10s. in my pocket, I said, "Will you take 5l. 10s. for it?"—he said "No, I won't, as I am going to stop here—I have sold it to Lomas; but as he cannot pay me till next Saturday, it will cost me 1l. or 2l.; you shall have it for 6l. "—I thought it was not all right—I went to the Vine at Hillingdon, saw Fair, and gave him information of what had passed between me and the prisoner.

WILLIAM FAIR . I am a constable of Bow-street, stationed at Hayes.

In consequence of information from Saverey, I went, on Saturday, the 24th of January, to the Crown, Colam-green—I saw the prisoner, and asked him to let me look at the pony he had for sale—he took me to the stable, and showed it to me—I took him back to the house, and asked him who it belonged to—he said it belonged to his brother, down in Suffolk, that he had business at Hillingdon, and had lent him the pony to ride there with, and authorized him to sell it—I turned round to speak to Meades, and the prisoner ran out of the house—I pursued him across the fields, and took him—he ran about a quarter of a mile—in taking him to the cage, I cautioned him not to say any thing unless he chose, and asked if he still persisted in the same story, of its being his brother's horse—he said no, it was not his brother's—I told him whatever he said would not be of any service to him—he said the pony belonged to Mr. Mudd—I had said nothing to induce him to say so—in consequence of what he said, I learnt that Mr. Mudd had lost a pony—I found the prisoner had borne a good character before.

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Life.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-557
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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557. WILLIAM SMITH and THOMAS JORDAN were indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of James Long, on the 28th of January, at St. Matthew, Bethnal-green, and stealing therein 3 coats, value 3l. 10s.; 1 pair of trowsers, value 15s.; 1 waistcoat, value 5s.; 1 handkerchief, value 3s.; 1 gown, value 10s.; 3 cloaks, value 12s.; and 1 shawl, value 1s.; his property.

ELIZABETH ESTHER LONG . I am the wife of James Long, who is a weaver, living in Wellington-row, in the parish of St. Matthew, Bethnal-green. On Wednesday afternoon, the 28th of January, I was up stairs, at my work—I left work about a quarter before five o'clock, and came down stairs to get tea ready—I heard footsteps in the passage, and a noise in the bed-room—I heard two persons go out of the house—I called to know who was going out, but got no answer—I found my bed-room window open—that is the front room, on the ground floor, about two feet from the pavement—I opened the street door, and about ten yards from the door, on the right hand, I saw two lads, walking slowly, side by side—on my left hand a stranger was passing—I made inquiry of the stranger—I saw Jordan's face, and observed that they each looked round at me, and turned their heads, but I did not observe the face of the other prisoner—I observed Jordan so as to know him again—the other person had a round brown cap on—when Smith was apprehended, he had such a cap at Worship-street office in his hand—I spoke loud enough to the stranger who was passing for the lads to hear me—I asked whether those lads came out of my house—I cannot not say they heard the answer—I immediately said, "We are robbed;" and when I uttered those words the two lads both began to run—the man I questioned ran the same way, and my husband followed—Jordan was brought back to my door—I immediately recognised him to be one of the boys who had turned round and looked me in the face—I searched my bed-room, found the drawers open, and my husband's clothes taken out—the glass of the window was cut, and the screw which fastened both sashes together was gone—the window was fast, to my certain knowledge, at half-past twelve o'clock—it was screwed—nobody could open it without breaking the glass, and that would admit a hand to undo the screw—the window-sash had been raised up—I received from my apprentice a great-coat, a pair of trowsers, and a waistcoat—I had observed that some clothes were gone out of the

drawer, but did not exactly know what—I afterwards missed two coats from the drawer—one of them had a silk pocket-handkerchief in it—I found my gown, some children's cloaks, and a shawl, removed from my own bed, where I had left them, and put on the children's bed.

JAMES DEAN . I am a shoemaker, and live in Wellington-row. On the afternoon of the 28th of January, I was in my garden—I heard a cry of "Stop thief" proceeding from my left hand, about thirty yards in the direction of the prosecutor's—I saw two lads running towards me from the prosecutor's—I had a full view of them—the prisoners are the two lads, I am certain—I stopped Jordan—Smith got away—I am not quite certain of Smith, as he turned his head very quickly—I had a full view of him for a short time—I will not undertake to swear to him.

JAMES LONG . I am the husband of Elizabeth Esther Long, and live in Wellington-row. When my wife had been down stairs about two minute, she gave an alarm—I ran down stairs—I asked which way they had run—I ran after them, but did not see them; and about one hundred yards from my own house, I picked up my great-coat, trowsers, and waistcoat, lying all in a heap together—they are worth 2l. 15s.—I missed two other coats—I found the articles in the direction the boys ran—the pane of glass had been broken at the corner, and mended before—I found the corner had been dug out, and the window screw gone.

JOSEPH ROBERT ONION . I am a bonnet-shape maker, and live in Wellington-row. I went in pursuit of the thieves, hearing the alarm—I saw Long pick up the trowsers, coat, and waistcoat, from a ditch—as Jordan was taken back to the house, I was behind him, and saw him take his hand from his left hand pocket, and drop an instrument, which will be produced—a lad took it up, by my direction—I afterwards saw the policeman try the instrument to the marks made in the putty of the window—they were exactly the marks such an instrument would make, and were made by it, in my opinion—the corners of the chisel are both broken off, and there were marks of that on the putty.

JOHN HERSCROFT (police-constable H 75.) I received Jordan into custody, from Long, and took him to Long's house—on the road I heard something chink on the stones, and this chisel was delivered to me by the apprentice boy I believe—I said to Jordan, "These are the instruments you make use of, are they?"—he said, "I picked that up in Bethnal-green-road"—I applied it to the marks in the window-frame—the centre square of the top sash—it is a very remarkable chisel, and it fitted the marks exactly—I merely laid it into the old mark—there was only one mark in the window—I have no doubt that instrument made that mark.

JAMES THOMPSON (police-constable H 178.) I was on duty in Went-worth-court, on Wednesday, the 28th, about a quarter past five o'clock in the afternoon, and found Smith at William Sheen's lodging-house, in Elgar-place, (which is a house of ill-fame,) Whitechapel, about a mile and a half from the prosecutor's—when I went into the room he was in the act of pulling off this coat, with a velvet collar—he had it off all but the sleeves, and was putting it on the bed—I said, "You are my prisoner"—my brother officer took another coat off a table in the room.

JAMES LONG re-examined. These coats are mine, and were in my drawer that afternoon—they are worth 1l. together—there was a silk handkerchief in the coat with a velvet collar—that has not been found—my wife has the cloak and gown only, they were not taken out of the house.

Smith's Defence. I had not got the coat on—I was laying it on a box

—I had been to sleep, and directly I got up, I saw the officers come in, I put my clothes on the table—he came in and took hold of me—I do not know who put the coats there.

Jordan's Defence. I picked the chisels up in Bethnal-green-road, about half an hour before.

(Benjamin Gurney, Spicer-street, New-road; and John Brandy, weaver, Scott-street, gave Jordan a good character.)

SMITH— GUILTY . Aged 17.


Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-558
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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558. RICHARD EWER was indicted for feloniously receiving, on the 28th of December, of a certain evil-disposed person, 3 waiters, value 12s.; and 1 tray, value 8s.; the goods of Henry Grainge and another, well knowing them to have been stolen.

MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

EDWARD ROGERS . I am assistant to Henry and Daniel Grainge, of Uxbridge, ironmongers. On the night of Christmas-day their premises were broken open—one of the warehouse windows was broken, and a quantity of iron tea trays and waiters taken—I should say about forty were taken, but it is quite a guess—I have since seen some of them in the possession of James Darvill, the constable—I had seen them safe on the Wednesday before the robbery, which was on Thursday—I know the prisoner by sight—he lives on Uxbridge-moor.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. How soon after Christmas-day did you see the trays? A. On the 19th of January—we had not sold any of the same description—ours is a retail warehouse—some had been made for us, and some had not—we had sold none of them—I did not see them again for about three weeks—the prisoner is a charcoal burner by trade—he was allowed to go at large after this charge was made against him—he came before the magistrate with the constable—I was before the magistrate when the prisoner was brought there—how he came, I do not know—I think he was before the magistrate the morning after he was charged—he was taken a second time—he was not at large after the charge was made before the magistrate—I cannot tell whether he was out on bail.—he has lived at Uxbridge about two years.

JAMES DARVILL . I am a constable of Uxbridge. In consequence of information which I received of the loss of the tea-trays, I went lo the prisoner's house on Uxbridge-moor on Monday the 19th of January, about six o'clock in the evening—I found him at home—I asked if he had bought any tea-trays since Christmas—he said "No"—I asked him if he had found any—he said, "No," what tea-trays he had got, he had bought of a man named Greenwell, on the Moor—I was in his house at this time, and saw two waiters and a small tray on the mantel-piece—I asked him to allow me to look at one of those on the mantel-piece—he said, "Yes'—I took it in my hand and said it answered the description of the trays stolen from Grainge's—he said, "Well, I will tell you the truth; I found them under some stuff that covers my charcoal in the yard"—he brought me another tray from the corner of the room, or from a cupboard in the same room—I afterwards showed them to Rogers, who identified them—I did not take him into custody till next day—he came up with me that night into Uxbridge of his own accord, he followed me—I showed them to Rogers in his presence—the Moor is nearly half a mile from the prosecutor's—I took the trays to my own house till next morning, and he went

home again—next morning I went before the magistrate and got a search-warrant, but found nothing more—I communicated this to the magistrate in the prisoner's presence—he was remanded till the next day; and while he was in custody, he was in the parlour at the Chequers, (he was ordered to be there all night by the magistrate), he told me that on the Saturday after Christmas-day a person named William Newman, with Gowlett and Robinson, brought a bundle of trays to a public-house on the Moor, where he was having a pint of beer—I know the parties he named, they live with girls who keep them—they go about the country—they are generally at lodging-houses up the Chequers'-yard—he said they came with a bundle of trays tied up in a large shawl-handkerchief, and asked him if he would buy them—he said, no, he would have nothing to do with them—he said his brother-in-law, William Smith, bought them for 15s., and took them to his (the prisoner's) house—there he untied them, and there might be twenty or twenty-one little ones—he could not exactly say how many large ones—that Smith took them and hid them under some stuff which covered his charcoal, and next day, or the day after, Smith took them out from under the stuff, and untied them, and he bought four trays and a gun of Smith—that Smith himself and a person named Mayden went to Colebrook—he said Smith hired a cart at the public-house to take the trays, and said he was going to Redburn fair, instead of which he drove towards Watford—that he told him he sold some at Marple fair—that he returned in two days afterwards, and he and Smith went to Colebrook and sold two waiters for sixpence and a glass of gin and water to Neal, who keeps the Red Lion at Colebrook, and I should find them there—I went and found them—I produce the four trays found at the prisoner's house—Ewer was asked before the magistrate if he had any thing to say—he made a statement, and signed it—I saw him sign it, and saw the magistrate put his name to it—I heard it read to him before he put his name to it, and next day he made another statement—some part of that was taken down—Mr. Dagnall was the magistrate—I was in the room while the magistrate wrote—I did not look over it to know whether it was read correctly to the prisoner—Mr. Bowers, the clerk, is here.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. I suppose you went after Smith, having this information? A. After the prisoner was committed to New-gate, not before—I had a warrant to go after him, but he absconded—I got a warrant against him the first day of the examination—the prisoner was in custody—the three trays I saw on the mantel-piece were not concealed—I said one tray answered the description of what were stolen from Mr. Grainge's—the prisoner said he would go to Mr. Grainge's, and he followed me there—I went into Mr. Grainge's shop—the prisoner was at one end of the shop, in the same room with me part of the time, but I went down into Mr. Grainge's room to tell him of it, leaving the prisoner in the shop—I was not there above ten minutes—Ewer was in the shop about half an hour, or not so long—I afterwards went to the tap of the George—the prisoner went with me, and went home from there—he was not in custody till the next morning—I did not try to detain him then—next day I went to search the house of the prisoner's father-in-law on the moor, and a van which Smith lives in—I afterwards searched the prisoner's house, but found nothing—I had a warrant to search the prisoner's house and Smith's, and the van—I went before the magistrate with him the first time—he was never let out of the custody of the constable—he was remanded—not to be kept in the cage, but to be kept in the Chequers till next day

—he was not bailed the next day, for I brought him to prison, and he was never admitted to bail—he was sent for to the police-office, and came—I did not hold out any threat or inducement to him to confess any thing—I did not say he had better at once say he knew Smith had stolen them—I cautioned him not to say any thing that he would not wish should be named to the magistrate the next day.

EDWARD ROGERS re-examined. This large tray is worth 10s. or 12s.—it is iron—the two small ones 6d. each, and the others about 5s.

RICHARD HENRY BOWERS . I acted as clerk to the magistrate at the examination of the prisoner—I did not take the depositions—Mr. Wood-bridge did, but I was there—he read them over to the prisoner in my presence—I did not overlook him—I saw them signed—I know these are the game papers I saw signed, and which were read to the prisoner—I saw the magistrate sign it—here are two statements—I heard both read to the prisoner each time, before he signed his name—I saw the magistrate sign each paper after the prisoner had signed them—the prisoner made no objection before he signed to what had been read; Mr. Woodbridge, the magistrate's clerk, read it to the prisoner in the magistrate's presence—I am clerk to Mr. Woodbridge—the magistrate heard what was read—he sat within a yard of Mr. Woodbridge, and could have overlooked what he was reading, if he chose—I cannot say whether he kept his eye on the paper while it was read—they sat close together, and the prisoner facing them.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Pray is there any thing to prevent Mr. Woodbridge being here? A. Not that I am aware of—his partner is obliged to be in town to-day, and it is market day—I have not seen him since Tuesday—I do not know whether he is ill or not—I was in the room when Mr. Woodbridge read the paper—I cannot say I fixed my eye upon him—I know what I have got here is the substance of what be read over—it is the same paper—Riches and Woodbridge are concerned for this prosecution—I am his clerk, and have instructed Counsel—I cannot say whether there is any reason for Mr. Woodbridge not being here.

(Examination read)

Richard Ewer, of Uxbridge, charged before me with felony, voluntarily says, "On Sunday morning, after Christmas-day, when he got up, he saw a man named Saunders, who said, he saw two men on Ewer's premises that morning, but they had not taken any thing away from him—he went to look to his charcoal fire with his fork and tools—struck the fork against something that rattled, and took the tea-trays out of the charcoal stuff—he took them in doors, and placed three of them on his mantel-piece and one on the table—Richard Ewer.

Taken this 22nd day of January, 1835, before me,


The said Richard Ewer further says, that on Saturday night, before the Sunday on which he found the goods, he was in Horne's beer-shop on the Moor—William Newman came in there, and Samuel Gowlett, who had got something tied up in a shawl which seemed to contain something like what he found—another man of the name of Robinson was outside the house; when he (Ewer) went out, these three persons were whispering together at the door—he went down home, and they all followed him—he went in doors, and the others passed by the place where he found the things—one night he heard a man say to Newman, "You d—d rascal, you stole the trays"—his brother-in-law, William Smith, told him that Gowlett and him offered a bundle of trays for sale to him for a sovereign—this was on the Saturday before he (Ewer) found them—Smith, along with

Gowlett and Bill Newman, showed those very trays to him (Ewer) on the Saturday—Gowlett and Newman took the trays away, and he found some of them, on Saturday morning, among his charcoal-stuff.—Richard Ewer.

Taken this 22nd day of January, 1835, before me,


Prisoner's Defence. I always got my living in an upright, honest sort of way—I never had any thing brought to my charge, and never brought my friends to disgrace—I have got my living under the magistrate who committed me, for seven years—the prosecutor has dealt with me for seven years.


NEW COURT.—Thursday, February 5, 1835.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-559
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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559. ELIZABETH HICKMAN and WILLIAM HICKMAN the younger were indicted for receiving, of a certain evil-disposed person, on the 10th of December, 1 copper, value 15s., the goods of Henry Cressweller, they well knowing it to have been stolen, &c, against the Statute, &c.

JOHN PEATON . I am shopman to Mr. Henry Cresweller—he carries on business at No. 2, High-street, St. Marylebone—on the 10th of December I missed this copper, about ten o'clock in the evening—this is his property.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. How do you know it? A. It is one of two which I had ordered to be made in a particular way, the top rivets being made flush—the general way of making them is to have all the rivets but the top ones made flush—these were made to fit into an iron frame—I never saw one like these—they were made at my own suggestion, which I thought an improvement, to form a portable copper.

COURT. Q. Are you able to swear, to the best of your belief, that that is the copper you lost? A. Yes.

FRANCIS KEYS . I am an officer of Marylebone. On Friday, the 16th of January, I went to the prisoner's house in Boston-place—I found the male prisoner—I told him I had a warrant to search the house—I asked if his name was Hickman—he said, "Yes"—I went into the shop, which is a marine store and rag shop—I searched for some other things, but I found this copper in the front room up stairs, a bed-room, it was covered with rags and old bolsters—I said, "Here is a new copper, how do you account for that?" He said, "It is one we have had for some time, we bought it at Pontifex's, in St. Martin's-lane." I took it away with the male prisoner, and Mr. Peaton identified it—the female prisoner did not come home while I was there—there was a man there very much afflicted, who I understood to be her husband.

JOSEPH COLLARD . I am an officer. I went with Keys to the house—we found the male prisoner there—I waited, I suppose, two hours, till the female prisoner came home—she came into the shop and took off her cloak—I was in the shop—I asked her if her name was Hickman—the said it was—I then told her I had been searching her house for some property supposed to be stolen, that we had found it, and she must go with me to the office—she said she was certain she had no property in her house but what she had come honestly by, and she was very willing to go to the office, as she could account for every thing—we then left her house.

Q. How do you know it was her house? A. My brother officer asked

the young man if his name was Hickman—he said, "Yes." As I was going along with the female prisoner, I told her we had found a copper, and asked how she accounted for the possession of it—she said, "O, the copper is it? I came honestly by it, I bought it of Mr. Pugh, in Greyhound-yard, Holborn"—I said no more, having heard her son tell my brother officer that they had bought it at Pontifex's—I had searched the house and found no other copper there—when we arrived at the office the magistrate had left, and the prisoners were locked in separate cells which adjoined out another. I heard the female prisoner call out to the male prisoner, "Bill, it is the copper they have brought us here for; you know we bought that at Pugh's, in Greyhound-yard, Holborn, for 16s., about the 14th of last month"—the male prisoner replied, "I have told a lie about the copper, mother—I told them we bought it at Pontifex's in St. Martin's-lane, where we had sold the old pieces of brass"—she said, with an oath, "That will not do, you fool"—immediately after that a man came into the yard, whom we had seen at the house in Boston-place—he called out "Hickman." Mrs. Hickman answered, "Is that you?" calling him by a name which I forget—he said, "Yes"—the then said, "They have got us here locked up about a copper; will you go down to Pugh's in Greyhound-yard, Holborn, and ask him for the bill of it? it cost 16s., and was bought about the 14th of last month"—she repeated these words several times, and asked him if he understood it; he said he did, and went away; he was gone perhaps two hours; when he came back, and called again, "Hickman," to let them know he had returned—I was waiting in the office, they could not see nor hear me; the man then said, "Mrs. Hickman, what was the use of sending me on such a fool's errand as that? Pugh knows nothing about a copper, he does not know at all what you mean; he does not understand you; he says he never sold you any copper"—she then said, "Aye, I was in liquor when I told you that—you must go up to the old man," meaning her husband, in Boston-place.

Q. Do you know that he was her husband? A. No, but the son had called him father two or three times, and told him what our business was—he was in the parlour behind the shop—he is afflicted with apoplexy, I believe, and has lost the use of his side, and his speech—he was scarcely able to walk—I should say decidedly he was not able to carry on the business of the house—he could not give directions, because he could not speak; but he seemed to understand every thing.

JURY. Q. Did you hear him speak? A. He could make a noise, signifying "No"—I asked him several questions, forgetting he was in that situation—if an article had been offered for tale, he was not capable of giving his answer—he could signify by signs—I am quite positive he could not carry on the trade of the house.

COURT. Q. What did the prisoner, Elizabeth, say to the man in the yard? A. She told him he must go to the old man; and she said, "The copper you know, that we gave 16s. for, on the 14th of last month, at Pugh's, go and ask the old man for the bill, he will find it on the file"—the man set off—I went with him—we went into the back parlour, and found the old man just where I had left him in the morning—he was sitting down—he has the use of one hand, and was smoking his pipe—I told him his wife wanted the bill off the file, of the copper that was bought at Pugh's—he shook himself, and made a sort of motion, and said, "Hum, hum," and began to cry very much—I asked him where the file was that he kept his bills on—he pointed me to two—I took them down, and looked over them very care-fully,

but I could find no bill of the copper on either of them—I asked him if he had a bill for the copper at all—he again made a sort of noise, meaning "No"—I said, "Nor ever had, I suppose?"—he again made the same noise.

Q. Was the noise the same when he appeared to mean yes and no? A. I understood him "No"—he never had occasion to answer me, "Yes."

Cross-examined by MR. CHURCHILL. Q. When you went to the old man, did you expect an answer? A. No—I knew he could point out where the bill would be—he was capable of attending to business, so at to point out where one thing or another was—he can get out of his chair, and move from one part of the room to another—he is capable of knowing every thing that is brought into the shop in a way of business—I should think, as far as intellect went, he was capable of attending to business.

Q. Then is there any thing more than physical infirmity that prevents his attending to the whole business? A. I think not—he is capable of signifying what he wishes to be done—I did not take the files away—there were, perhaps, thirty or forty papers on each file—I read every one—it was on the 16th of January that this woman said, "We bought it on the 14th of last month"—she had been in custody two hours.

EVAN PUGH . I live in Greyhound-yard, Holborn. My wife is half-sister to Mrs. Hickman—I never sold this copper to her, or to her son, or to any body in their house—I know nothing about it—I never sold Hickman a halfpennyworth of any thing in my life—I have been to the house, but I believe it is more than two years since.

Elizabeth Hickman's Defence. I bought the copper, under my husband's direction, of a man who told me he came from Mr. Pugh, understanding I wanted a copper—I had but 10s. at the time—I asked my husband if I should borrow 6s. to make up the money, he said, "Ay,"—he can say six words very well—I asked him if he thought it was all right, and he said, "Ay"—we always act under his direction—he can put down things with his left hand.

JAMES HARDING . I am a painter, and live at No. 49, Burton-place. I know the prisoners, and know the husband—I have visited the house every day since the prisoners have been committed—the husband carries on the business—he is fully competent to it—he is able to walk from one street to another, and gives directions—this woman bears a very good character for honesty.

ELIZABETH HICKMAN— GUILTY . Aged 61.— Transported for Fourteen Years.


(There was another indictment against the prisoners, on which no evidence was offered.)

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-560
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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560. WILLIAM M'CARTHY was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of January, 1 snuff-box, value 1d.; 1 crown-piece; and 1 sixpence; the goods and monies of Jeremiah Lyons, from the person of Catherine Lyons.

CATHERINE LYONS . I am the wife of Jeremiah Lyons, and live in Cow-lane, Shadwell. On the 26th of January, I went to drink at the Duke of York, in High-street, Shadwell, at eleven o'clock at night—I had met with Ann Robinson, a dress-maker, and went in there, and called for a quartern of gin and a pint of beer—I took out my money, paid for it, and then had a five-shilling piece and a sixpence left—as I was rather in liquor, Robinson

took them out of my hand, put them into my tin muff-box, and put them in my bosom, and I gave her a glass of gin—I did not want any myself—I had had some—the prisoner was there, and asked me to give him a glass of gin, which I did—I then went out—he came after me—put his hand round my neck, and took my box and money out of my bosom with his other hand—I said, "Give me my box"—he said, "When I have taken a pinch of snuff"—the officer took him, and has the money.

Prisoner. We had been to three public-houses before. Witness. I never spoke to him in my life until I was in the Duke of York—I had seen him in the street, like another man—I had not drank with him at the White Hart, and at the Ship and Dolphin—I was not sober—I had had some acquaintances at home that day—I did not give him the money in the box—he took it by force—I tried to prevent him.

ANN ROBINSON . I was at the bar with the prosecutrix, when the prisoner came in. They did not appear as if they had been in company before—I put the 5s. 6d. into the snuff-box, and put it into her bosom, and under her arm—I afterwards saw the prisoner with the box in his hand—I asked him to give it her back—he said he had not got it, and I called the officer.

DENNIS POWER (police-sergeant K 12.) I heard the prosecutrix crying, "I am robbed." I went up—Robinson pointed out the prisoner, and said he had robbed her of 5s. 6d.—I took him and said, "Give up the money"—he made no reply, but I saw him put his hand into his trowsers pocket, and take out this crown piece; and something dropped which the complainant took up—I took his hand and said, "Give up this crown-piece"—he said, "I worked hard for this money"—I took him to the station-house with his hand closed, and the crown-piece was got from him—I found the box at the Duke of York.

Prisoner. I told him that Lyons gave me the snuff-box. Witness. No, he did not.

GUILTY . Aged 29.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-561
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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561. JAMES HOLDING was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of Feburary, 13 pairs of shoes, value 35s., the goods of John Frazer.

JOHN FRAZER . I am a shoemaker, and live in Goswell-street-road. On the 3rd of February, I received information, went into the street, and saw the prisoner with a bag in his hand—he turned down the first turning, and dropped it—I took it up, and followed him—when he got to the top of the street, I missed him—some person told me to go into the public-house—I went in, and saw the prisoner there—I have no doubt of him—the bag contained thirteen pairs of women's shoes, which bad been in pairs on the shelf, fixed against the wail in my shop—they are my property—the bag is not mine—I had seen them safe at twelve o'clock the preceding night; and this was at half-past ten o'clock in the morning—the shop doors were not open until about half-past eight o'clock—the shop was opened sooner.

Prisoner. I was going to look for a situation—I never had the bag in my hand—I went into the public-house for half-a-pint of beer, when that gentleman came in and asked me if I knew the bag—I said no. Witness. I did not see his face, but I do not think I can be mistaken in him—I did not see him go into the public-house.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-562
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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562. MARY SABEY was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of January,3 handkerchiefs, value 5s.; 1 shawl, value 2s.; and 5 yards of ribbon, value 2s.; the goods of Robert Rogers.

THOMAS LAVERS . I live in Queen-streeet, Hoxton, and am an accountant; my wife takes in needle-work. I was at home about three weeks ago, when the prisoner came in to buy a toy—she asked my wife if she could make her some caps—my wife undertook to make them—in a day or two the prisoner came and asked leave to bring a few things there, which her boxes would not hold, as she was a servant about to leave her place—on the 17th of January, when I came home, I found three or four bundles—one contained these three handkerchiefs, another these five yards of ribbon, and this shawl—I took the same things to Mr. Rogers's shop.

EDEN LAVERS . I am the witness's wife. The prisoner brought these things to my house, I think about three weeks ago.

ROBERT ROGERS . I know these articles are mine—they have my private mark on them—one of them, in particular, I had cut off, to sell the other half—I then wanted this, and could not find it—it has our private mark on it, which is always taken off when we sell them—here are a great number of other things, which I believe are mine, but they are not marked.

Prisoner. I bought the shawls and ribbons of Mr. Thomas, who is here.

GRIFFITH THOMAS . I live in Oxford-street, and am a linen-draper, I have no recollection of selling the prisoner these articles—I have a case coming on here, which is the reason of my being here to-day—we have such articles as these in our shop, but these marks are not ours—I have sold handkerchiefs of two of these patterns, but this other I do not think we ever had in our shop—I think I have seen the prisoner.

Prisoner. I bought them of that gentleman in Mr. Rogers's shop in Pitfield-street. Witness. I do not know Mr. Rogers, and never was in his shop.

Prisoner. It was a short, dark-complexioned gentleman who served me—he was a great deal like this gentleman—it was a tall gentleman served me with the handkerchief.

JURY to ROBERT ROGERS. Q. Can you state whether the prisoner had been in the shop between the time of your cutting this handkerchief off and wanting it? A. I believe she had been in the shop that day—I cannot say whether she was there at that time or not.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-563
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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563. WILLIAM SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of January, 4 pairs of boots, value 24s., the goods of Ralph Wilcoxon.

JOHN DAILY . I am shopman to Mr. Ralph Wilcoxon, a shoemaker, in Tottenham-court-road. We hang the boots round the window, and have a boy outside to mind them—on the 20th of January, the officer brought the prisoner back with these four pairs.

HENRY BOLTON (police-constable E 72.) I was on duty in Tottenham-court-road—I saw the prosecutor's shop, and the boots hanging outside—I saw the prisoner take these boots down—I followed, and took him with them.

Prisoner. It was through distress I did it.

GUILTY . Aged 25.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Two Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-564
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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564. ROBERT DURHAM was indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of January, 4lbs. weight of pork, value 1s. 6d., the goods of John Barnes; and that he had been before convicted of felony.

JOHN BARNES . I live in Goldsmith's-row, Hackney-road, and am a pork-butcher. My shop is opposite Mr. Beale's—I had a piece of pork on the window-board—it was inside, but the window was open—on the 23rd of January I was backwards, and was called and told that three boys had stolen two pieces of pork—the prisoner was in my shop, and this piece of pork—the other piece was gone—this piece of pork was in a bag of the prisoner's.

THOMAS BEALE . I live opposite the prosecutor. I was at home on the 23rd of January, and saw the prisoner go backwards and forwards by the prosecutor's window several times, and each time he pulled this piece of pork nearer and nearer to him—he then took it and was wrapping it up in this bag—I took him back to the shop with it.

JOHN BRAND (police-constable G 170.) I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction (read)—I know he is the person.

GUILTY . Aged 10.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-565
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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565. JOHN KING and EDWARD KING were indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of January, 891bs. weight of lead, value 14s., the goods of Gerald Walsh, being fixed to a building of his, &c., against the Statute, &c.

2nd COUNT. For feloniously ripping, cutting, and breaking, with intent to steal the said lead, against the Statute, &c.

JOHN BREALY . I live at No. 15, Stevenson-street, Maiden-lane. On the evening of the 22nd of January, I was called out of the Albion public-house—I went round to the back of the houses and got over the wall—I found the door of No. 1 open—I went up stairs, and found the roof broken in—I got out, with several more, and found lot of lead on the roof near the hole—there were several houses stripped of lead—we put the lead down the hole, and went over the roofs, and found the prisoners between No. 4 and No. 5—I caught hold of John, lying behind the chimney, with his feet towards the gutter—I asked him if there were any more—he said, "Yes, one more "—another man went end caught the other prisoner.

JOHN STRECHY (police-constable N 133.) I went up the house and found a hole broken through—I assisted these men on the roof—I took the prisoners down the hole—I took this lead and fitted it on the roofs—it fitted exactly—I observed to the Sergeant that they must have been there several times, and the prisoners said, "No, we have only been there twice, and the last time was last Thursday."

JOSEPH STANBRIDGE ROGERS CLARKE . I am agent to Mr. Gerald Walsh. He is landlord of the house—I have seen the lead, and have no doubt it belongs to him.



Transported for Seven


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-566
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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566. FREDERICK WATSON was indicted for stealing, on the 28th of January, 1 cloak, value 11s., the goods of Joseph Prince Lemmon, from the person of Joseph Adolphus Lemmon.

JOHN LEMMON . I live in Hoxton-square. I have a grandchild, named Joseph Adolphus Lemmon—he is four years and a half old—his father's name is Joseph Prince Lemmon, and he buys his clothes—I live with my

son—the child was sent out by his mamma, on the 28th of January, to play in Hoxton-square—I saw him go out with this cloak on—he was brought home in half-an-hour by a policeman without the cloak—I went to Mr. Burgess, the pawnbroker, and found the prisoner with the cloak—he was about to pawn it—I gave him a good talking to, and so did Mr. Burgess, and we let him go.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. You did not intend to prosecute? A. No, but I was called on by a policeman who had found another cloak, and was forced to come forward—I questioned the child about the cloak, and he gave me an account of it—he went out with his sister, who is five years and a half old.

GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Six Days.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-567
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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567. ROBERT STEWART was indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of January, 1 metal cock, value 2s.; the goods of Clarissa Cutbush, being fixed to a building, against the Statute, &c.

LUKE FLOOD CUTBUSH . I am the grandson of Clarissa Cutbush—she is owner of the house, No. 130, Whitechapel-road—it is unoccupied—Harper was there to show it—on the morning of the 22nd of January, I went into the kitchen, and every thing was right—I went again about five o'clock in the afternoon, and missed a metal cock, which appeared to have been wrenched off—this appears like the cock; but there are many of this pattern, and I cannot swear to it.

WILLIAM HARPER . I was in the house about two o'clock that day—the prisoner came, and said his father was coming to do something to the top of the house—he asked me which was the way up stairs—I went up with him—he then went away, and came back—I asked where he had been—he said, "To the shop, to mix up some mortar"—he then went down stairs, and came up again, and said he had fallen into the cistern—he was very wet with water in front of him—he went down again, and was down some time, and I heard him knocking—I went down, and saw all the water running about the cellar—I said, "O, what have you done?"—he said, "To-day is water-day, the cistern runs over"—I said, "It will not run if you turn the cock off"'—I went to look, and found the cock was gone—I said, "You have cut the cock off"—he said, "No; to-day is water-day"—he then took and jammed the end of the pipe together—he came up and stood against the fire—I asked what he had in his pocket—he said, "Only a bit of lead"—I put my hand in, and found this cock—he said, "I have cut it off, but do not tell any body," and I said I would not—he then said, "Chuck it down the privy, or put it behind this fire-place, that will be best—I said, "No; the fire-place is coming down to-morrow"—I took it into the yard, put it into some dust, and told him I had thrown it down the privy—he said that was best, and then he went away—I stopped till dusk, and shut up the house—I then took the cock to my master.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you tell the magistrate that he said he had cut it off? A. Yes—he plugged the pipe with a mallet that was there—I took the cock from his pocket—there was no one in the house but him and me—I had not been down in the cellar before he came.

CHARLES GRANT . I am an officer. I took the prisoner, and found this picklock-key upon him, and a box of gunpowder.

Witness for the Defence.

JOHN RATES . I am a smith, and live in Mutton-lane, Mile-end—the prisoner worked with me two years—he and his father have worked for the prosecutor six years—I made this key, and he picked it up against my door—I go sometimes to pick locks—I am his brother-in-law.

MR. CUTBUSH. He has worked with his father for us.

(William Bates, of Union-street, and Samuel Ford, a bricklayer, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 14.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Six Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-568
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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568. GEORGE TARSEY was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of January, 2 sacks, value 3s.; 14 bushels of oats, value 2l. 5s.; 4 trusses of hay, value 12s.; I head-stall and reins, value 2s.; 9 halters and bridles, value 3s.; 4 rugs, value 2s.; and 1 circingle, value 1s.; the goods of William Chaplin.

MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM BOARD . I was at a trial here on Tuesday; on account of my brother; I am a farmer, and live at Edmonton. On the 10th of January I was on the Edmonton-road, about ten o'clock in the morning—I met the prisoner coming from London, with a horse and cart, within about one hundred yards of the six mile stone—the cart was loaded partly with dung—I and my brother were riding in a gig—I got out, and asked the prisoner what he was loaded with—he said, "Dung"—I said, "Any thing else?"—he said, "No"—I asked if he had been to London for dung—he said "Yes," and he had loaded in Holborn—he said, "We sometimes take turnips, and sometimes greens; and when we have nothing else to do, we go and fetch dung"—I sent my brother for the constable—I walked by the side of the prisoner's cart—when we got to Tanner's End, the prisoner was met by his father, Thomas Tarsey, who lives there—the father and the prisoner, and the horse and cart, all went into the yard, and the horse was taken out—Camp, the constable, then came, and the cart was overhauled—there was a little long dung taken off first, and then there was a sack, with some corn in it; then there was a layer of dung, and then a sack or two, and then the other articles stated—among other articles, we found some posting bills of Mr. Chaplin's—this is one of them—it is of the Defiance fast coach—we found two sacks, about two quarters of oats, four trusses of hay, this head-stall, and these other things, belonging to Mr. Chaplin, and a great many other things which are not Mr. Chaplin's—the prisoner's father went away with the horse from the cart, and I believe, was not seen any more—the prisoner was taken.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. I apprehend you have seen many such posting bills as these? A. Yes; In different parts—I believe two or three persons assisted to unload the cart—I believe this prisoner commenced his father made off.

JOHN CAMP . I am the constable. I was sent for and went to Thomas Tarsey's house—when I went into the yard I saw the cart—the prisoner was standing by—I asked what he had got in the cart?—he said, "A load of dung"—I asked him if he would unload it—he said, "Yes, I will, now you are come; but I would not for Mr. Board"—he got up, and began to unload the dung, and then threw off a sack of chaff; then some more dung, and then some oats—he then said, "If you want any more off, you may get it off yourselves"—Mr. Board and another got off the things that are here

—I asked the prisoner whose property they were, and he said, "Not Mr. Board's"—that was all I could get out of him—one of the sacks had the name of "Chaplin" on it, and one the name of "Wright"—I saw him searched, and a number of way-bills were found on him of the Angel-inn, St. Clement's—I went to look for old Tarsey, but could not find him.

RICHARD CARTER . I searched the prisoner, and found the way-bills on him—I have had the care of this property.

WILLIAM WINCH . I am foreman to Mr. William Chaplin, the large coach proprietor—he is proprietor of the Angel-yard, behind St. Clement's On Sunday, the 11th of January, I went to the watch-house at Edmonton, and saw this property—one sack has the name of Chaplin on it, and one the name of Wright—this sack, marked Chaplin, I am sure is Mr. Chaplin's—Mr. Wright was the proprietor of the White Horse, in Fetter-lane, and Mr. Chaplin bought the sacks of him—I see to the whole management of the Angel-yard—these oats are Archangel and Irish, mixed, and tares in them—I have compared what were found in the cart, and what was on our premises, and I have no doubt they are the same—there were three bridles missing, such as these, but I could not swear to them—our watchman has run away—some one came about four o'clock in the morning, to the yard, who was supposed to be the prisoner—I have brought one rug to match with these which were found, they are the same—he could not have got these way-bills but at the Angel.

Cross-examined. Q. Are not these blank way-bills? A. Yes; it is not unusual in stables to have Archangel oats, but not such a mixture as this—I have been in stables all over England.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Were these things all together? A. Yes, in the same place.

Prisoner's Defence. Mr. Boards took a string out of his pocket, and began to measure the wheels of the cart—he said he had suspicion that I had stolen his hay—when I threw off the dung, I threw the four trusses of hay first, and then the corn, and he says I threw the corn first.

(James Rance, a labourer, at Edmonton, and Joseph Halliday, of Bury-street, Bloomsbury, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-569
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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569. JAMES YOUNG was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of January, 2 shirts, value 1l.; 9 handkerchiefs, value 1l.; 2 pair of stockings, value 1s.; 1 apron, value 6d.; 1 pair of breeches, value 10s.; and 1 other handkerchief, value 6d.; the goods of Lucy Roberts, from her person.

LUCY ROBERTS . I live in Allertbn-street, Hoxton. On the 17th of January, at a quarter past eight o'clock, I was going down Goswell-street with a bundle on my left arm, containing the articles stated—when I was opposite Hatfield-street, a man came behind me, snatched my bundle, and ran off—I ran after him, and called, "Stop thief"—he ran on till he came to a crowd—a boy ran out of the crowd, and said, "Mistress, is this your bundle?"—I said, "Yes, where is the villain?"—he said, "He is safe, he is taken into custody"—I said, "Where is the policeman?" but I could see no one—they hastened me out of the crowd—I went on to the gentleman where I was going, and told him what had occurred—on the following Saturday I was going to the same gentleman, and the policeman called me into a shop, and asked if I had lost a bundle—he took me to Worship-street—I saw the prisoner, but I cannot swear he is the person who took my bundle—it was a man of exactly his stature, but I only saw

his back, and the side of his face—the bundle was tied in this handkerchief.

WILLIAM HENRY ROGERS . I am a salesman. About eight o'clock in the evening of that day, I was in my shop—I heard the cry of "Stop thief"—I saw the prisoner running, with a bundle under his arm—I started from my door to lay hold of him—he left the pavement and ran in the road—I pursued and overtook him, two doors from Golden-lane—he had no bundle then, but I am sure he is the person I had seen with it—I never lost sight of him—I saw the bundle was in a blue handkerchief with white spots, similar to this one.

JOHN HALL . I live at No. 26, Old-street—I heard a cry of "Stop thief," and saw the prisoner running, with a bundle under his arm—I saw him throw it down in this handkerchief—I did not pick it up, but pursued him—I saw a boy give the bundle to the prosecutrix.

GEORGE TINDALL (police-constable G 43.) I took the prisoner—he said the woman was gone, that she had got the bundle, and we had no right to detain him—I said I should take him on suspicion of being concerned in another robbery—I took him, and he was recognised at being one of the party.

(Maria Lake, of Labour-in-vain-yard; George Messer, a tailor; and William Brunet, of Bunhill-row, a gold and silver beater, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-570
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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570. EDWARD BROWN was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of January, 1 pair of trowsers, value 7s.; the goods of Newsom Garrett.

NEWSOM GARRETT . I keep a shop in Commercial-road. These trowsers were hung outside my door—they could not be got down without a ladder—the string was broken, and a nail almost pulled out—I saw the prisoner, and watched him for about half-an-hour—he was walking backwards and forwards—he came and snatched the trowsers down, and ran down the road, and down Berner-street—I pursued him with Chapman, who took him—"he threw the trowsers down.

SAUL GEORGE CHAPMAN . I saw the prisoner pull the trowsers down—he doubled them up—I went with the prosecutor, and took him.

(Mary Mead, and George Clark, a weaver, of No. 15, Cutter-street, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-571
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation; Not Guilty > unknown

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571. HENRY BARNES and JOHN MASON were indicted for stealing, on the 20th of January, 41 pens, value 1s.; 1 tobacco-pouch, value 6d.; and half a pound of tobacco, value 2s.; the goods of Rebecca Tabernacle and another.

MARIA TABERNACLE . I live in Broad-street, Ratcliff-highway. I keep a tobacco-shop, in partnership with my sister Rebecca—on the 20th of January, as I was washing my hands in the parlour, I saw the two prisoners enter the shop—I saw one of them, I believe Barnes, put his hand into the window—there were some pens and tobacco-pouches there—my brother came in, and spoke to me about leaving the shop—the prisoner had then gone—my brother went after Barnes, and brought him back, with 48 pens, which were my property—this tobacco-pouch was picked up outside the door—I missed such a one—we missed part of two rolls of tobacco, but they are not here.

SAMUEL BANKS . I am the prosecutrix's brother-in-law. I came into the shop, and saw the two prisoners standing at the counter—I asked what they wanted, and they said "Shop"—I went towards the parlour, and Barnes ran out—I suspected something wrong, and followed him about one hundred yards—he dropped this bundle of pens—I picked them up—caught him, and brought him back—this pouch was picked up by some person when I brought the prisoner back—when I ran out, Mason was by the door, and when I returned he was gone.

Mason's Defence. I went in for one pennyworth of tobacco—I knocked two or three times on the counter—this gentleman asked what I wanted, and I told him—he went towards the parlour, and then went after this boy—I then went home.

Barnes's Defence. This gentleman went towards the parlour, and said somebody would run away with the shop.

(The prisoners received good characters.)

BARNES— GUILTY . Aged 17.—Recommended to mercy. Confined Ten Days.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-572
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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572. EDWARD THOMPSON and HENRY CROUCH were indicted for stealing, on the 26th of January, 1 cask, value 14s.; the goods of Richard Greenhow.

RICHARD GREENHOW . I live in Walbrook-row, Hoxton, and am a cooper. On the 26th of January, about nine o'clock, I went out to look for a cask belonging to me, and it was gone—I saw a truck at a distance—I went up to it, and found my cask on it—the two prisoners were drawing it—there was another cask on it beside mine—I claimed my cask—the prisoners said they had been employed by a person to carry it—it had been on my premises that evening—the prisoners gave it up; but I kept walking with them till I saw a policeman, and gave them in charge.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Did you lay hold of either of them? A. No, I had seen the cask on my premises at six o'clock that evening, they were shut up close—I had twenty or thirty casks there—there were two casks on the truck, but I only claim one—there was no private mark of mine on it, but it had "Betts" branded on it, from whom it came to me, and this had been a standing puncheon, and had a bung-hole in the head—there were two of the chines broken off one end—they said a man had offered them sixpence to take the cask off my premises, and to take it home for him.

RICHARD ROBINSON . I was at my shop door, opposite the prosecutor's—I heard a noise, came out, and saw two men lift a cask off Mr. Greenhow's premises over the palings—they rolled it along the road—I went to the prosecutor, and I went with him after the truck—the prisoners were drawing it—I said, "Stop a minute, where did you get this cask?" They both said, a person hired them to carry it, and offered them sixpence, and they, being hard working men, were glad to earn sixpence—I took the cask back, and they went on with the prosecutor.

THOMAS SPENCER , (police-constable N 121.) I took the prisoners—they said they had been employed by a man to take the cask to Wilson-street, Finsbury.

THOMAS COOK . I lent Thompson the truck on that Monday night—he said he should not want it long, he wanted to move a few goods.

Thompson's Defence. The cask was on the road-side—the man said he would give us sixpence to take it to Wilson-street—he put it on the truck, and told us to go to a public-house, and we might get some beer—we told the prosecutor so, but he would not go there, or no doubt be might have caught him.

RICHARD GREENHOW . They told me the mas was at the public-house but I did not go, for they would hare run off.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-573
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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573. JAMES WELLS was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of January, 1 basket, value 1s.; and half-a-bushel of apples, value 2s.; the goods of William Casey.

WILLIAM CASEY . I live in Queen's-court, Southward—I go about selling apples. On the 19th of January I left a basket of apples on the stones in Wilmington-street, Clerkenwell—I was gone for about five minutes, and I saw the prisoner going off with it—I secured him—I sent a young man who was with me for a policeman—he said it was done from distress.

JOHN GODFREY . I took the prisoner with the basket.

GUILTY . Aged 32— Confined Fourteen Days.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-574
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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574. JOHN KING was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of January, 4 shirts, value 2l.; 8 pairs of socks, value 8s.; 2 pairs of drawers, value 4s.; 1 handkerchief, value 6d.; and 1 basket, value 1s.; the goods of Richard Edward Gibbs.

THOMAS BRUCKIN . I am errand-man to Richard Edward Gibbs, an ironmonger, in Old Gravel-lane. On the 3rd of February I was drawing my master's truck along the highway, it had a basket in it containing the dirty linen stated—a little boy spoke to me—the policeman on the opposite side had then got the basket and the prisoner.

DANIEL DRISCOLL . I live in Russell-court—I saw the witness drawing the truck; the prisoner went behind him and took the basket out of the truck—I am sure he is the man.

Prisoner. Q. Did you see me take the basket? A. Yes, you put your hand over the front of the truck and took it.

EDWARD KENNEDY , (police-constable, K 223.) A man gave me information—I went down Old Gravel-lane, and in the Starch-yard I saw the prisoner coming from a dust-bin—I went there, and found the basket—there was no one near the dust-bin.

Prisoner. I was not within four or five yards of the bin. Witness. You were within three yards.

THOMAS BRUCKIN . This is the property.

JURY. Q. Where had it been? A. In front of the truck—I was dragging it up the hill—the prisoner put his hand to the truck to help me up, and I thanked him for it.

Prisoner's Defence. I never saw the bundle, I warrant, nor ever had it in my hand.

GUILTY . Aged 56.— Confined One Year.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-575
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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575. HENRY BONNICK was indicted for stealing, on the 28th of January, 1 handkerchief, value 3s., the goods of a man unknown.

JOHN FARMER . I am a patrol of Farringdon-street. On the evening of the 28th January I saw the prisoner and two others following two gentlemen in Cheapside—I followed and watched them to the foot of Hol-

born-hill—I then saw the prisoner take this handkerchief out of a gentleman's pocket, and put it into his own—he then crossed the road—he saw me, took to his heels, and ran down Union-court—he threw the handkerchief down George-alley—I took it up—he made his escape then, but I saw him the next evening and took him.

Prisoner. Q. How far do you think the gentleman had got? A. I cannot say, I was five or six minutes before I got to Holborn again.

CHARLES WALLER . I was in Skinner-street at a quarter before twelve o'clock in the morning—the prisoner saw me and ran off—I pursued him, and took him with this other handkerchief—he said some boys gave it him—I took the handkerchief, and told him to get the boys who gave it to him—the same evening I saw him running, and Farmer after him—I know him perfectly well.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Transported for Seven Years.

Sixth Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-576
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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576. JOHN AMES was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of January, 100lbs. weight of lead, value 5s., the goods of John Mears and Joseph Nicoll, and fixed to a building; and that he had before been convicted of felony.

MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM NORRIS FRANKLYN . I am an attorney. I know the building in Stafford-place, Pimlico—there is a shed and a privy there, the property of Joseph Nicolls and John Mears, who are trustees for me and some other persons—on the 20th of January I went there with a police-man, and saw the lead had been stripped off.

JOHN BABY (police-constable B 64.) On the night of the 12th of January I was in Castle-lane, Westminster—a few minutes before seven o'clock I saw the prisoner with this lead on his shoulder—I asked him where he was going—he said to take it to his master in Strutton-ground, West-minster—I told him I suspected it was stolen, and he must go with me to the station-house—he dropped the lead on my toes, intending to lame me, and ran away—I ran after him, caught him, and took him—when we were going through York-street he offered me some silver, and said, he would give me that to let him go—he said he was hard up, and he should get fourteen years for it—on the following morning I went to the premises in Stafford-place, Pimlico—I saw the shed this lead came from, there was another piece of lead rolled up ready for removal, it exactly fitted with the piece the prisoner had, and they covered the roof exactly—here is 561bs. of lead.

Prisoner. Q. Have you any mark to show, on your toes, where I threw the lead? Witness. It hit me on the tip of the toe.

JOHN COLLINS . I live in Stafford-place, and am a painter and glazier—I was with the officer when he fitted the lead on the sheds—there is no doubt whatever but it came from the roof.

SAMUEL STRICKLAND . I am a broker, and live in William-street, West-minster—I know the prisoner perfectly well—I produce a certificate of his former conviction—(read)—I prosecuted him, and know he is the person.

GUILTY . Aged 34.— Transported for Fourteen Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-577
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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577. PATRICK M'CORMACK was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of January, 1 pewter pot, value 1s. 8d., the goods of William Dew, and that he had been before convicted of felony.

GEORGE YOUNG . I am pot-boy to William Dew, at the corner of Gray-street,

James-street, Mary-le-bone—about half-past seven o'clock on Monday, the 19th of January, I saw the prisoner in the tap-room, sitting drinking, and I saw by a bulk in his hat that he had something—I told my master—the prisoner then went out of the house—I followed him into the house of Mr. Leary, in Gee's-court, which is about two minutes' walk from my master's—I called him out, and asked what he had got in his hat—he said he would not tell me without I would be on my oath not to tell any thing about it—I said I would—he had this pot—I then went home, and the prisoner followed me—I told my master, and he sent for an officer, who took him.

WILLIAM BROWNE . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner—he said he was going to take the pot to another house to take a pot of beer home, as he could get it a penny cheaper by taking the pot.

WILLIAM DEW . This pot is mine—the prisoner has been in the habit of using my house.

JAMES CLAPSON . I produce a certificate or the prisoner's former conviction, which I got at Mr. Clark's office—I know he is the same person—(read.)

Prisoner's Defence. The pot-boy had an umbrage against me for complaining to his mistress that he was saucy to a man, and he said he would do me an injury—I took the pot out to give some beer to a man—I was bringing it back, when he met me—I was going to get a pot of beer at another house for threepence.

GUILTY . Aged 38.— Transported for Fourteen Years.

There was another indictment against the prisoner.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-578
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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578. GEORGE COLES was indicted for stealing, on the 11th of January, 1 bridle, value 25s.; 1 pair of reins, value 5s.; and 1 cloak, value 8s.; the goods of Charles Wilford.

WILLIAM GREEN . I am servant to Charles Wilford, a sadler. He has some premises in White Swan-yard, Bishopsgate-street—the window was broken open on Saturday evening, the 10th of January—they pulled a piece of wood out, and made the window slide along—the prisoner knows the stable—he lives down the yard—this bridle is my master's.

ELIAS MOSES . I was going home on the Tuesday night, and saw the prisoner—he asked if I would buy this bridle for 2s.—this was on the 13th of October, I believe—no, February—no, it was January—it is about three weeks ago, I know—my father is a shoemaker, and lives in Stoney-lane—I did not buy the bridle.

MORRIS PECKOVER . I am a pawnbroker. I produce a cloak pawned on the 10th of January by the prisoner, I believe, but I cannot swear positively to him.

CHARLES WILFORD . I live in Gracechurch-street—these articles are mine, and were taken from my stable in One Swan-yard, Bishopsgate-street—I had seen this cloak safe on the 8th of January—I heard on Sunday that the stables had been broken open.

WILLIAM GREEN re-examined. I locked up the stable, and left it all safe about five o'clock on Saturday evening—I went again about half-past nine o'clock the next morning, I found the window forced open, and the property was gone.

EDWARD KIRBY DARLINGTON (City policeman No. 51.) I took the prisoner—I produce this bridle and cloak—the reins have not been found.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-579
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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579. THOMAS BARWELL was indicted for stealing, on the 28th of January, 1 pair of copper scales, value 5s.; and 2 weights, value 1s.; the goods of John Collier.

JOHN COLLIER . I keep a coal and potato warehouse in Bell-street, Lisson-grove. On the 28th of January, I was sitting in the parlour—I heard, as I thought, some one in the shop—I looked, but I saw no one—in half a minute, I heard the scales rattle—I ran out, the scales were gone—I went out, and took the prisoner under a gateway with them.

JOHN BUCKINGHAM . I am an officer. I took the prisoner, and have the property.

Prisoner's Defence. I was coming out of Mr. Saunders's play—some young man ran past me, and put these scales into my hand.

GUILTY . Aged 19.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Six Weeks.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-580
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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580. JOHN THOMAS BARRY and GEORGE SMITH were indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of January, 30 yards of flannel, value 2l.; the goods of Evan Williams, and another.

ANN ELIZABETH HILL . I live opposite Mr. Williams's, in Great Port-land-street. On the 23rd of January, between two and three o'clock, I saw two persons at the prosecutor's private door, talking together—the taller one went to the corner of Mortimer-street, which is three doors off; and then the other one took the flannel from outside of the door, and gave it to the taller one, who was waiting at the corner—I sent my girl to Mr. Williams', and the persons were pursued—I cannot say whether they were the prisoners.

JAMES DAUBREY . I am a policeman. On the 23rd of January, I was crossing Cavendish-square, between two and three o'clock, a young man pointed out the two prisoners, who were then in Hollis-street, about two hundred yards from the prosecutor's—Barry was carrying this flannel on his shoulder—Smith was with him—I pursued them—Smith turned and saw me, and they both ran—when they got to Hanley-place, Barry threw the flannel off his shoulder—I called "Stop thief"—Smith was taken—I pursued Barry, and Pratt took him.

WILLIAM PRATT . I am a policeman. I was on duty in Woodstock-street—I saw Barry come running across Blenheim-street—I pursued and took him—the flannel was given to me by a young man.

EVAN WILLIAMS . I keep this shop. This flannel is my property, and has my mark on it—I have one partner.

Smith's Defence. I was never in Barry's company.

JAMES DAUBREY (re-examined.) He was, and was stopped by the persons passing.

BARRY— GUILTY . Aged 19.

SMITH— GUILTY . Aged 19.

Confined Nine Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-581
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown
SentenceTransportation; Imprisonment

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581. CHARLES WILSON and GEORGE WILTON were indicted for stealing, on the 27th of January, 9 printed books, value 8s.; and 1 paper weight, value 2d.; the goods of William Warner.

ELIZABETH WARNER . I am the daughter of William Warner; he keeps a stationer's shop in Chapel-street, Pentonville. On the 27th of January, I was in the shop—the two prisoners came in—Wilson came first, and asked for a halfpenny pen, which I gave him—he then asked me for a piece of paper to write a direction, which I also gave him—Wilton then came in for

a valentine, which he said was in the window—I told him there was not such a one in the window as he described—he said he would show me where it was—he wanted a cobler one—he went to look at the window—I went to the door, and asked him if he did want such a one, for I had one in doors—he came in again—I showed him what we had—he looked at it, but did not like it—he then said to Wilson, "It won't do, will it?"—I do not know that Wilson made him any answer—Wilton then went away—Wilson followed him almost directly—my sister then came into the shop—I went to put the books into the window, and missed a Johnson's Dictionary—I told my sister, and she followed them—I went after them, and saw Wilton go up White Conduit-street—I had not missed any more books then, but a lad gave me some, which I knew were ours—my sister brought Wilson back, and gave him in charge.

HANNAH WARNER . I came into the shop just as Wilson was going out. I did not see Wilton there, but I had seen them both looking in at the window.

JAMES MATTHEWS . I live in Union-square. I saw the last witness running up Chapel-street, and calling "Stop thief"—I turned the corner, and saw three books on the ground, which I took up—Wilson was running up there—I did not see Wilton—I then looked down an area, and saw two more books—a girl knocked at the door, and the lady gave them to her—I saw Wilson run past there.

JOHN MILES (police-constable N 110.) Wilton was given to me—I took him to the station-house—I found nothing on him but two keys—these books were brought to me.

WILLIAM BODMAN (police-constable R 157.) Wilson was given to me by Hannah Warner—these other books were picked up by a stranger, and brought to the shop.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

Wilson's Defence. Some person ran past me—there was a cry of "Stop thief"—I tried to catch him, and was taken.

Wilton's Defence. I was in Chapel-street, and was taken by one of the policeman—I have no knowledge of Wilson at all.

WILSON— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Seven Years.

WILTON— GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Six Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-582
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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582. JAMES SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of January, 16lbs. of paper, value 8s., the goods of Benjamin West.

BENJAMIN WEST . I am a bookbinder, and live in St. James's-walk, Clerkenwell. I know nothing of the prisoner; but on the 31st of January I lost this paper—on the 29th, a gentleman, who resides in the lower part of my premises, informed me that there were two suspicious looking characters in my passage—I set a watch on the landing of my house, where this property and some other was placed—on the Saturday the lad who I set to watch, gave me an alarm—I went out, and saw the prisoner running, and the lad after him—he took him and brought him back—he had thrown the property down—my street-door was open, but there is another inside.

JAMES THORLEY . My master set me to watch about seven o'clock, on the 31st of January, on the stairs, a little above where the books and paper were—about half-past seven, or twenty-five minutes to eight o'clock, the prisoner came in—I did not hear him, but I saw him come up the stairs—he took this paper, which is part of the Delphin Classics, and ran

down—I rang the bell to give an alarm, and pursued him—he dropped part of this paper in the road, and part on the curb-stone—I never lost sight of him till he was taken.

JOHN GEORGE HINDE . I was coming along with my father, and saw the prisoner run down the stairs with this bundle of books under his arm—I heard a cry of "Stop thief," and tried to stop him—he threw the bundle down—I pursued, and saw him taken.

JOHN ROBINSON (police-constable G 57.) I took the prisoner, and have the books.

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Transported for Seven Years.

There was another indictment against the prisoner.

OLD COURT.—Friday, February 6th, 1835.

Third Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-583
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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583. THOMAS DIXON was indicted for stealing, on the 4th of February, 1 pair of trowsers, value 1s., the goods of Peter Janson, to which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined Three Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-584
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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584. WILLIAM BARBER was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of January, 1 tea-kettle, value 1s. 9d., the goods of William Wood.

HENRY GIBBARD . I live with my father, who is a shoe-maker. On Saturday, the 31st of January, about half-past twelve o'clock, I was crossing the road opposite Mrs. Wood's shop, and saw the prisoner take the kettle off the window, and carry it away—I followed him, he saw me—I followed him to the Coach-and-Horses—he took up a brick and said, if I did not go away, he would break my b—y head—I stooped down to avoid the blow, and before I could get up, he was gone—I went into Whitecross-street, saw an officer and told him.

JOHN PUMMELL . I live with my mother. On the Saturday in question, I saw the prisoner in Twister's-alley, carrying a kettle before him.

JOHN KERSHAW . I was on duty in Whitecross-street—a boy came to me and said a man had stolen a kettle—I found the prisoner on Monday night last at the Refuge for the Destitute—I apprehended his mother on the Saturday—she had been to sell the kettle in Plough-yard.

ANN WOOD . I am the wife of William Wood. This is our kettle—I lost it off the window-ledge—I sell hardware.

GUILTY . Aged 30.— Transported for Seven Years.

Before Mr. Justice Vaughan.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-585
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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585. GEORGIANA CLARK was indicted for the wilful murder of Henry Jenkins.

WILLIAM DUNSTAN STANLEY . I am one of the beadles of St. Pan-cras. On Monday evening, the 26th of January, between six and seven o'clock, I was passing along Zion-terrace to Argyle-place—I saw a number of people collected—I went up stairs in a house in Argyle-place, in the front room, first floor, and saw five or six persons there, and a man lying dead on the bed—the prisoner was sitting on the side of the bed, near the corpse—I asked her how the man came by the cut in his side, which I could see, (it was bound up, but I put the wadding on one side and saw it)—she said, by cutting a piece of wood to put on the fire—I asked her if

she was a married woman—she said she was married to Jenkins, the deceased—I asked her where the knife was—Phoebe Davidson came up stairs, and took the knife out of the cupboard—I asked Davidson if that was the knife—she said it was—I said, "Can you swear to its being the knife?"—she said, "Yes, it is; is it not George? "(speaking to the prisoner,) and the prisoner said it was—I produce that knife—I then asked the prisoner to tell me whether she actually was a married woman or not, and she replied that she was not—I asked her if she and Jenkins had had any quarrel—she said they had, on the Saturday night, about Phoebe Davidson—she said the quarrel was because Davidson would not come up to sup with them—Davidson lodged down stairs—I found so many people there, I said nothing further, but desired them not to bury the body until an inquest was held—I went down stairs, and went to a neighbouring beer-shop, and not feeling satisfied, I sent for Campbell, a sergeant of police—he came, and we both went to Dr. Jones that night, and from what Dr. Jones told us, we felt ourselves in duty bound to take the prisoner into custody—I went to the station-house, and then returned and got the deceased's clothes, which I have here—there is a cut in the clothes—it has gone through the great-coat—the prisoner said the clothes were hanging up behind the door, and I found them there—the cut has gone through the great-coat and two waistcoats, in the place corresponding with where the man was cut in the side, and it corresponds with the knife—his shirt was cut also in the same place—there was no under-coat—the shirt has been found since—I did not see it found—there was no appearance of any wood being cut in the room.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did you know the deceased? A. I did not—I had not seen Dr. Jones in the room when I went there—I had seen him below in the house—he was just coming out—there were five or six persons in the room—they seemed much alarmed at the man's death—there was a great deal of wretchedness and misery—the prisoner appeared agitated and distressed.

SAMSON DORKIN CAMPBELL (police-sergeant E 14.) I went on Monday evening, with Stanley, in consequence of what he said—we got there about half-past seven o'clock, and found the prisoner in the room, sitting on the foot of the bed—there were other people in the room—I asked her if she was the person who cohabited with the deceased—she replied she was—I asked her then, how the accident had taken place, by which the man had lost his life—she said, that in cutting some wood to put on the fire, to fry some sausages, the knife had slipped and cut him—she said it was on the Saturday night—I asked her if there were any other persons in the room, except herself and the deceased, at the time of the accident—she said none—I asked her whether she had alarmed any of the inmates of the house previous to fetching the doctor—she said she had not—I learned from her that Mrs. Wilkins and her daughter lodged in the front parlour, and a young woman, named Phoebe Davidson, in the back parlour—those were the only persons she mentioned to me—I asked her whether she and the deceased were good friends, or had any words within a short time of the accident—she said, "Oh yes, we were quite good friends"—I said, "Are you quite sure that you had no quarrel at all with him, shortly before that?"—she said, "I will tell you the truth, we had a few words, he lifted his hand to strike me; I turned ray back from him towards the table, and at the same moment I saw he had lifted his hand, I heard him call out, "Oh, I am cut'"—I asked her how could that be reconciled

with her former statement, that he had been cutting wood, as he could not be doing two things at once, cutting wood and string her at the same time—I used these very words to her—she made no answer—I asked her if she had any objection to tell me the subject of the dispute between her and the decesed?—she said, "It was relative to the young woman, Phonebe Davision, who lived in the back parlour, and he went to strike me in consequence of the words we had about her"—I then told her I should feel it my duty to take her into custody, which I did—she remained in my custody during the night—she stated that at the moment she found he had met with the accident, she ran for Mr. Jones the surgeon—she apppeared very much distressed and agitated—in fact, it was with some difficulty I could get her from the body—I tore her from it—she threw herself on the corpse, and I could hardly get her from it—Phobe Davidson was present during the whole conversation—the prisoner stated, in her presence, that the deceased was very angry with her because Phoebe Davision would not came up to supper—she remained in my custody all night, and about six or seven o'clock in the morning, I ascertained a Catholic clegryman had visited the man—I went to her to ask where he lived—she said she did not know, and she said, "Oh, Jenkins, Jenkins, little did I think it would have come to this; you have often threatened to stab me and yourself, but little did I think it would have come to this"—I said, "You do not mean to say he stabbed himself, do you?"—she said, "He might have done it, for my back was towards him?"—I said. "You told me last night, you always lived very happily together?"—she said, "Oh no, he has often beat me, and left me weltering in my blood: as my late landlady, who lived next door, can testify."

Cross-examined. Q. Did she tell you how long they had cohabited together? A. I think she said they had been together nearly four years—Phoebe Davision is single, I understand; she had a child in her arms—the prisoner apperared in an afficted state at the time—in such a state as I should expect to find a woman who had lost her husband—I think Phoebe Davision was in the room the whole time—these persons were in very poor circumstances—I called on her landlady next door, and had a conversation with her on the subject to which she referred—the story was confirmed to a certain excent by the landlady—she mentioned one instance that she knew of—she stated that they had been together to market that Saturday—it apperared, according to the statement made in the prisoner's presence, that the deceased, Wilkins, and herself had been drinking together after his horse—the house is a loading house in Argyle-place, which is between Judd-street and King's-cross—I understood the deceased to have gone himself once to Mr. Jones after he was wounded.

WILLIAM JONES . I am a surgeon, and live in Judd-street. I was not acquainted with the deceased before the accident—on Saturday, the 24th, between ten and twelve o'clock in the evening, I saw him at No. 1, Argyle-place—the prisoner came to my house for me to go—she seemed very much distressed—I went with her, and found the deceased in the front room, up stairs—I do not recollect whether he was in bed—he stated that he had cut himself in cutting wood—the prisoner was with me—on examining, I found an oblique would, extending between the seventh and eighth rib on the left side, about three quarters of an inch long—it appeared to be made with a sharp instrument penetrating obliquely from the left side to the right—it had entered on the left side—there was only blood on the

shirt—the bleeding of the wound had ceased—his pulse was affected, but I do not conceive it was from the blood lost, but rather from the shock or fear in his mind from the accident—I did not think seriously of the wound—having dressed it, to cheer him up, I told him to consider himself more frightened than hurt—being an oblique wound, it was impossible to state what would be the result, as I could not see to what depth it had gone—I then gave him some ammonia, &c, with an idea of accelerating the pulse, to raise the pulse to bring on re-action—the next morning, about eight o'clock, I was surprised to find him at my house, which is about one hundred or one hundred and fifty yards from where he lived—I found his pulse considerably accelerated and fuller—he complained of pain in his stomach—I have learnt since that he had taken something to injure him—I immediately ordered him to be bled, to produce fainting—I ordered him to be sent to bed, and kept quietly, and to take two ounces of castor oil—I intended him to be bled till it produced that effect on the pulse—that is a general rule when we order bleeding, to faint—my assistant bled him in my shop instantly—he was to walk home after he had rallied from the fainting—my assistant is in the habit of bleeding, under my direction, four and five times a week—I have found a good effect from bleeding for incipient inflammation—the pulse was fuller than it was the night before—the characteristic pulse is a small pulse, but a quick pulse—this was on Sunday morning—I saw him twice that day—in addition to that he was ordered to have a mustard poultice applied all over his stomach—this was at eight o'clock in the morning—he died at six o'clock the following day—he did not die from any internal bleeding, but from peritoneal inflammation—(I examined the body after death, on Tuesday morning, at eight o'clock)—I did not inform him he was dying, and I cautioned the prisoner against letting him know my opinion—I told her twenty hours after the accident, that there was not the slightest chance of his recovery—that was after the bleeding—I did not see him take any brandy, or any spirits—I did not learn such a thing had been administered till the inquest.

Cross-examined. Q. I think you say the treatment you resorted to after seeing him on Sunday morning, was under circumstances of entire ignorance on your part, as to what he had been doing himself, or what he had taken? A. I thought he had taken nothing but what I ordered him—there was nothing about the wound on Saturday which led me to conclude the result would be fatal—I could not conclude that, as was evident from the nature of the wound—the immediate cause of death was inflammation about the internal parts in which he had received the incision—the peritoneum, when wounded, takes inflammation very soon indeed—a wound, externally, if sufficient to produce inflammation, without the peritoneum being wounded.

COURT. Q. It is the character of peritoneum inflammation, you say, to give a low, quick pulse? A. We understand, by the pulse I describe, a quick, small pulse; that is, a sort of pulse I should desire a patient to be bled with under those symptoms.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. It became evident to you, on Sunday morning, that inflammation had began? A. Yes, and it was the consequence of the wound—it is the nature of the peritoneum, when wounded in the slightest degree, to be inflamed—in this case, it was wounded in two places; and, even if wounded in only one, it is the nature of that membrane to take on inflammation—brandy would certainly have tended to increase the inflammation—drinking would make the difficulty the greater—the prisoner came to my

house two or three times on the Sunday—she was in very great affiction and distress, and paid him the greatest possible attention.

COURT. Q. You would not have thought it judicious and discreet to bleed him, if you had not first given him ammonia to raise him? A. I do not say that I would—it would have been highly injudicious to bleed him, when, under the shock and fear.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did you apprehend that internal bleeding had followed the wound? A. I could not discover, on dissection, that it had.

COURT. Q. You opened the body, and I ask you, was the wound, it your judgment, the cause of his death? A. I think so—there was effusions of fluid into the cavity of the chest—not of blood—it is the nature of inflammation, for that description of fluid to flow, much more than can be taken up, and so it remains in the cavity—I have not a doubt the wound was the cause of his death.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did the pulse rise after what he went through in your shop? A. Decidedly; I took about twenty ounces of blood from him, besides what he lost from the wound—he only came to me once; I was astonished to find him there—many individuals, after losing blood to a considerable extent, are perfectly capable of walking a considerable distance.

Q. Having received a severe wound on Saturday night, and losing twenty ounces of blood, should he have gone out in the cold? A. There would not be any objection.

COURT. Q. The considerable effusion you named was not blood, but arising from the peritoneal inflammation? A. Yes; that effusion was the cause of his death, and that appeared to have been caused by the peritoneal inflammation which was caused by the wound—it was not by the bleeding, or any other cause.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. The wound might have existed, and yet inflammation might not have appeared? A. I do not think it possible—the very process by which it was to be healed would be inflammation—I think if he had had raw spirits, or brandy-and-water, the inflammation would have been more likely to have a fatal tendency—I did not know of his taking spirits, until the inquest.

PHCEBE DAVIDSON . I am single. I lived in the same house with the deceased and the prisoner—I had not seen the deceased on the Saturday evening—I occupy the back parlour—Mrs. Wilkins occupied the front parlour—I went up stairs at half-past eleven o'clock on Saturday night, not long after the accident—the prisoner desired me to come up stairs—she said he was hurt, and asked me to come up stairs—I went up, and found Jenkins in bed—he said he was cutting wood, and the knife slipped—I did not see the wound, because it was strapped—he said he was more frightened than hurt—I asked him which knife it was done with—he pointed to one on the table—there was no blood on it—this is the knife—I continued with him until nearly three o'clock—the prisoner was there all the time—when I left him, he appeared better—I went to bed, and saw him again at a quarter past five that morning—I had no conversation with him then—he said nothing to me at that time about the prisoner—I remained with him about half an hour—I saw him again at eight o'clock—he said nothing to me then—on Sunday afternoon, between three and four o'clock, he asked me if Georgian a had told the people below—he did not say what—I said, "Yes, she had"—there was only Mrs. Wilkins and her daughter below—when he asked me, I said she had—and he said, "Then she had done for herself"—the prisoner was not present—she appeared to

have an affection for him, and appeared very greatly distressed—he took three-penny worth of brandy at a quarter past five on Sunday morning—I and the prisoner fetched it together, but I do not know the quantity—I saw him drink it—I do not know what liquor he had had the night before—he had a glass of brandy-and-water of unadulterated brandy, from his mistress—I did not see that, but he said it was unadulterated—(I was before the Coroner, and at Hatton-garden)—I saw him return to the house on Sunday morning a little after eight o'clock—he had been to Mr. Jones—he gave me twopence halfpenny to get him some mustard—he appeared better then in point of strength.

Cross-examined. Q. Where did Mr. Baggett, his master, live? A. At No. 26 or 27, Tonbridge-street, New-road—I saw him return a little after eight o'clock in the morning—he went to bed directly, and did not get up again—he went to his master's first, and then went to Mr. Jones—he said he had been to his master's first—he did not have more brandy when he came home—he had three-penny worth of brandy at five o'clock in the morning—he died about half-past six or a quarter to, seven on Monday night—he had not been dead a quarter of an hour or ten minutes when the officer came—while he lay ill on Sunday morning, he was affectionately attended to by the prisoner—he repeatedly called to her to come to the bed, that he might embrace her, and entertained the warmest affection towards her—she attended on him till he died—two of us had to push her down stairs to get her from his person.

MARY WILKINS . I lodged on the ground-floor of the same house with the prisoner and the deceased—I had seen him on Saturday evening at eleven o'clock, before the wound was received—he was in my room before he went up stairs to his own room—the prisoner was with him—they had been out toge'ther—I do not know of their drinking any gin—I did not go out with him, or see him out of doors—they had not been gone up stairs half-an-hour when I heard a heavy fall—I did not hear any talking before the fall—I cannot tell what the fall was—it fell very heavy; and after the fall I heard a load talking—I could not distinguish which voice it was—it did not seem to be quarrelling—I was rocking my baby—the prisoner came down stairs to my door, and asked me not to make a noise, for she had stabbed Mr. Jenkins with a knife—I said, "Dear me, what have you done?"—she made answer, "Lend me the nutmeg-grater"—she did not say what she wanted it for—I lent her the nutmeg-grater—she told me she would fetch the doctor, and she went out to fetch him—she appeared very much agitated and distressed—she said she had fetched the doctor, and had the wound dressed—that was after Mr. Jones had been there—she had fetched him before she came to me—I did not go up to see him, nor have any conversation with her as to how it happened.

Cross-examined. Q. Are you in the habit of taking spirits, or is it very seldom? A. I never do take spirits—I had not been to market on this night—the prisoner and the deceased came into my room—I had not been to any wine vaults with her—I recollect the words she said distinctly—she said she had stabbed Jenkins with a knife, not that Jenkins had stabbed himself with a knife—I do not recollect using any other words before the Coroner—I am sure I did not say she had stuck him with a knife—what I said before the Coroner was read over to me before I made my mark to it—her words were, "I have stabbed him with a knife"—I did not say "stuck" before the Coroner—I paid attention to the

deposition when it was read over to me—I am sure she said "stabbed"—she did not say "struck"—I was not asked before the Coroner if I might not have mistaken the word "struck" for "stuck"—he never asked me that question if it was "struck," and I am quite sure I never used the word "stuck"—the word "stuck" was not read over to me—the prisoner came down to me about half-past eleven o'clock—it could not be after that time that Mr. Jones was sent for—it could not be much after half-past eleven o'clock—it was not past twelve—I went to bed after twelve—I saw her about half-past eleven, as near as I can tell—I did not go to bed till past three—I occupy the front parlour—the deceased occupied the front room over my head—a young man, named Fisher, occupies the first floor back room—he was not at home—I go out charing and washing—my daughter lives with me—she is not married—I have three boys, one of hers and two of mine—I never had a word with the prisoner—I was called on, on Wednesday, to repeat what she had said to me, before the Jury—that was the first time I repeated the words she said to me—my daughter was present.

(Upon reference to this witness's deposition, she had used the word "stuck" instead of "stabbed" before the Coroner.)

ELIZABETH WILKINS . I am the daughter of the last witness, and am single—I lodge with my mother on the ground floor. On Saturday evening I went out with the prisoner at eight o'clock, and returned again shortly after—I did not go out with the deceased—I came home with the prisoner about half-past ten or near eleven o'clock—we had met the deceased when we were out—I did not go up stairs with them when I came in—I remained in ray own room—they both came into my mother's room with me—it must be near upon eleven o'clock—they seemed to be on the best of terms—both went up stairs very friendly together—they had been up stairs near upon half an hour when I heard a loud talking—I could not distinguish voices at all—they were both talking, and he more than her, as if quarrelling—I heard something very heavy fall on the floor—I thought at the time it must have been a chair or table—I could not say which it was—soon after that, I heard her run down stairs and go out—she did not call at our door as she went by—she went out of doom—I heard her return in about ten minutes with Mr. Jones—I saw Jenkins again between eleven and twelve o'clock on Sunday morning—I heard him go out before I saw him—I went into the room, he was in bed—I asked how he was—he said he was very bad—that was the last time I saw him—she had come into our room on Sunday morning, and my mother asked her at the same time how she came to do it, and she said she was in a great passion, and she would serve any man so who called her a bad name (mentioning a very bad name)—she said he had been having a great many words with her concerning a young woman (Phoebe Davidson) who would not come up to supper, and he had put her apron on the fire, and was going to tear her new bonnet which she had just had made—she had made the bonnet herself, I went out with her to buy the stuff—she said he had his hand up to strike her, and she told him if he hit her again she would hit him—she told me he had hit her several times—he had often beat her before, I know—they appeared on very friendly terms that night—she always showed great affection for him, and was very sorry for what had taken place.

Cross-examined. Q. How long had they lived together there? A. I have been in that neighbourhood twelve months, and always knew them very happy together—she always was very kind and friendly towards him,

and appeared of a very kind, humane disposition—she frequently received ill treatment from him.

GUILTY of Manslaughter only. Aged 24.

Transported for Fourteen Years.

Before Mr. Justice Vaughan.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-585a
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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585. JOHN COMPTON was indicted that he, about the hour of six in the night of the 27th of January, at St. George's, Bloomsbury, being in the dwelling-house of James Henry Henderson, did steal therein 1 cloak, value 30s., his goods; and 1 hat, value 14s., the goods of James Henry Henderson, jun., and having committed the said felony, about the said hour, feloniously and burglariously did break to get out of the said dwelling-house.

JOSEPH WILLIAM WRIGHT . I am clerk to James Henry Henderson, a solicitor, of No. 31, Bloomsbury-square. I saw the prisoner in the hall on Tuesday evening, the 27th of January, about a quarter before six o'clock—the door was then shut—he had just brought a note, which he had given to the housemaid—I had not seen him give her the note, but she told me in his presence that he had given her the note—I left him in the passage, while I went with the note into Mr. Henderson's room—I returned into the passage—he was still standing there, a little further into the hall, and more under the light, it shone more on his countenance—I have not the slightest doubt of his person—I went down stairs, returned up stairs, and the prisoner was in the act of opening the street door—Mr. Henderson had just come from his office door into the hall—the prisoner had a bundle of clothes on his arm, and a hat in his hand, and he had a hat on his head—as he pulled the door too after him, Mr. Henderson pulled it open—I ran out after him, being sure he had got what he ought not to have—I saw him, when I got to the door, running—he ran across the corner of the square, and dropped a cloak and hat—I pursued him till he came to Southampton-row, and there he was stopped by a policeman—I lost sight of him in turning the corners, but immediately caught sight of him again—he had dropped the other clothes at the street door—I gave him in charge—Mr. Henderson, when he ran out, took up the cloak and hat.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Were you present when the prisoner was stopped? A. I saw him stopped—I never saw him before that night—the hall light shone on his features—I looked at him, to see if he was a tenant, so that I might know him again—it is always my custom—I took such observation of him as to be able to speak to him, if I had not seen him till the present time.

JAMES HENRY HENDERSON . I am the prosecutor's son. I went out into the street on hearing an alarm—I did not see the prisoner till he was secured in Southampton-row—my younger brother accompanied me, and we together picked up the cloak and hat at the corner of Bedford-place—I took up the cloak, and told my brother to put the hat on his head—the hat is mine, and the cloak belongs to my younger brother, Henry, who is at Brighton—it is my father's property, because my brother is eleven years old—I am certain the hat is mine—I had hung it in the hall about an hour before, on the horse-peg.

ROBERT FLANDERS . I am a policeman. I produce a hat and cloak which I got from the prisoner—the prisoner was delivered into my custody with them.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

Prisoner's Defence. I was crossing Bloomsbury-square, and was knocked down by two men—there were twenty or thirty people—I ran, and saw nobody—I saw these things thrown down by a man, who turned to the left—I went on, up Southampton-place—the policeman stopped me, and said, "Where are you going?"—I said, "Up here"—he said, "What are you running for?"—I said, "Like other people"—I was two minutes and a half in his custody before I saw any body—I was taken to the house, and charged with the theft—I have been fifteen months at sea, and before that worked for Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

GUILTY of Larceny. Aged 22.

Before Mr. Justice Vaughan.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-586
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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586. JOHN LAKE and FRANCIS DAVIS were indicted for stealing, on the 19th of January, 1 cow, price 9l. the goods of John Salter.

JOHN SALTER . I am a farmer, and live at Notting Barns farm, at Kensington, about a mile from the gravel-pits. In January last I had a cosw large in calf, which I placed in a field with some heifers, near the Cemetery, near the Harrow road—she had been there about two months along with the same heifers—I saw her safe on the 15th of January—I went to the field on Monday, the 20th, and she was not there—in consequence of information I went, on the 25th, to Holt, who keeps the green-yard at Paddington, and found my cow there—he delivered it up to me on Tuesday, the 28th—it is worth about 9l.—it was in calf, and had about three weeks to go.

JAMES JOHN BRABY . I am a drover, in the employ of Mr. Bartram. I was in Smithfield market on Monday, the 19th of January—the prisoners came together to me and brought a cow—Lake said, there was a cow to sell—I asked him whose it was—he said "Westbrook's"—I have had cows before to sell from Westbrook, which Lake brought—he said it was to be sold—I tied it up, and they went away—about two o'clock that afternoon, Davis came and asked if it was sold—I said it was not—then Lake came within five minutes, and asked me if we had been bid any money for the cow—I said yes, we had been bid 6l. for it—he asked, "Who bid it?"—I pointed to a gentleman who had bid for it—he said, "It must be sold at whatever price It might be"—they went away, and returned again about three o'clock, which is the time the market is over—it was clearing out time—as it was not sold, I delivered it up to Lake again, to take home—it was heavy in calf—I saw it at Mr. Holt's, at the green-yard at Paddington, on the Sunday following—I am positive it was the same cow—I asked Davis where he brought the cow from—he told me Lake had employed him to help him into the market with it, and he was to give him 1s.; and he had come from Notting-hill with it—Lake was not present—I never had any thing to do with Davis before—I had sold two for Lake before, which he said came from Westbrook's—I never knew his own name—he went by the name of Westbrook, and he said the other cows were his brother's—I supposed him to be Westbrook.

PETER HOLT . I keep the green-yard at Paddington. On the 19th of January, the prisoners came to me about four o'clock in the afternoon—I was about two hundred yards from the green-yard—Lake, who gave his name William Blake, told me they had brought a cow to the green-yard; and the woman (meaning my wife) had put it into the green-yard—I afterwards went to the green-yard with the prisoners, and found the cow there—I asked them where they had brought it from—Lake said, they

found it—it was astray in Oxford-street, and a policeman told them to bring it to the green-yard—I asked them who the policeman was—Lake said, how should they know? he did not take notice—I asked him his name—he gave his name "William Blake"—he asked me for something for his trouble—I told him, when the owner came, and took the cow out, he would have something—he seemed very much dissatisfied, and wished to have something then, and I gave them a shilling between them—the other prisoner gave the name of "Charles Johnson"—Lake began using very bad language when I gave him the shilling, and said, if he had taken it to Kensington, he should have had five shillings—they went away—on Sunday, the 25th, Salter came to me—I showed him the cow the prisoners brought me, and he claimed it—I gave it up to him on the Tuesday—I did not know either of the prisoners before.

ALFRED BLUNDELL (policeman T 24.) In consequence of information, I took Lake into custody on Monday, the 26th—I met him coming up Notting-hill, about a quarter before seven o'clock in the morning—I crossed over and said, "I believe your name it William Blake"—he said "No, it is not, it is John Lake"—I said, "You must go with me to the station-house"—he said, "What for?"—I said, "On suspicion of stealing a cow from Salter"—he said, "I know nothing about any cow"—I laid hold of his collar—he said, "You need not collar me, I will walk"—I said, "I have got you, and shall keep fast hold of you"—he used a bad expression, what he would do to me if I did not let him go—on going along I said, "You recollect the cow you drove to the green-yard last Monday"—he said, "Oh, I found that cow in Oxford-street"—I said, "I believe that cow belongs to Mr. Salter"—he said, "I know nothing about who it belongs to"—I took him to the station-house, and he said there, he knew nothing about it, more than driving it to the green-yard—he used to go by the name of "double-jointed Jack"—I do not know his real name.

RICHARD HANCOCK (police-constable T 138.) On Monday, the 26th of January, I took Davis into custody at the back of Kensington, in the Mall, playing with some boys—I told him I wanted him for being concerned with Lake in stealing a cow from Mr. Salter—he said he knew nothing about it—I said, "You must go with me to the station-house"—he then turned round, and said he would tell me all about it—I said, "Do not say any thing to hurt yourself"—he said Lake called him up at half-past four o'clock on Monday morning, the 19th, that they went into the field and drove the cow out, and took it to market—he said Blake wanted him to go to Smithfield to sell a cow—he told me that Lake told him so—he said nothing about its being stolen—as we went along he said they went into the fields and took a cow out before, and sold it for ten guineas, that he had a few shillings of the money, and Lake had the other—I knew nothing of him before I went and took him, in consequence of information.

Davis. Q. Did I not say I was employed by Lake to assist him in taking the cow to Smithfield? A. He said he called him up, and he went to the field with him and drove the cow out, and that they had had one more out of the field before—he said the trowsers and boots he had on were bought with money he had saved up from different things he had done for Lake.

Lakes Defence. I never took the cow out of the field at all.

LAKE— GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Life.


Before Mr. Justice Patteson.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-587
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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587. THOMAS WRIGHT was indicted for stealing, on the 18th of January, 1 mare, value 13l.; 1 cabriolet, value 25l.; and 1 set of harness, value 1l.; the goods of John Sandbach Greenway.

JOHN SANDBACH GREENWAY . I am a cabriolet master, and live in Coburg-street, Hampstead-road. On the 18th of January I had a cab under the charge of Robert Fincher—I sent him out with it—a black mare was with it—Fincher has not been here—I do not know where he is—he went out with it on the night of the 18th, about half-past five or a quarter to six o'clock—he came to me about five minutes before eleven o'clock, without cab or mare, and gave me information—in consequence of what he said, I went to endeavour to find the cab and mare, and found it in Holborn, about half-past one o'clock—the prisoner was driving it—it was coming from the City towards High Holborn—two gentlemen were inside it—I stopped the cab directly I saw it—the gentlemen jumped out and no away—I did not know either of them—I am sure it was my horse and cab—I called a policeman, and gave the prisoner in charge—I went with him to the station-house—he there said he had found the cab coming towards Westminster-bridge without any body in it—next morning, when he was before the Magistrate, he said it had been standing two hours opposite the Star and Garter, Edgeware-road, without any driver, and he found it there—Fincher was before the Magistrate, and continued in my service for a week or ten days after, and then left—I have seen him since.

STEPHEN THORNTON . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner in charge—he said, at the station-house, that he met the cab and horse walking towards Westminster-bridge—he said before the Magistrate that he saw it standing two hours opposite the Star—I do not recollect that he named where—I do not know any Star near Westminster-bridge—Fincher was bound over to appear as a witness—what he said was taken down in writing—I cannot be positive that I saw him sign it.

Prisoner's Defence. I was in Southampton-street, Westminster, and saw the cab in Parliament-street and nobody with it, and the reins under the horse's feet—I went to the side of it—there was nobody in it—I took it back to the stand in York-road, opposite Astley's Theatre, and asked the waterman if there was an owner to the cab—he said "No"—a lady and gentleman came up as a fare—I stood a quarter of an hour—nobody came—I took it to a stand in Holborn—I then drove to the stand opposite the Star in the City-road, and stopped there a quarter of an hour—nobody came—two gentlemen in the public-house said they knew the cab, that it belonged to a gentleman in the Edgeware-road, and they would go with me—they got into the cab, and as we drove up Holborn, the prosecutor stopped me and gave me in charge—I was never in the Edgeware-road—Fincher told the Magistrate he left the cab and horse with a boy, and when he came out of the public-house the cab and boy were gone—when I first saw it, it was going over the bridge with the reins under the horse's feet—the gentlemen were quite strangers—they jumped out immediately I was stopped—I had been in London about three days.


Before Mr. Justice Vaughan.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-588
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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588. GEORGE MITCHELL was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of February, 1 handkerchief, value 2s., the goods of John Craig, from his person.

JOHN CRAIG . I live in Princes'-street, Finsbury. On the 3rd of February, I was near Fetter-lane, in Fleet-street, and was asked if I had lost a pocket handkerchief—I felt, and missed it—a gentleman had hold of the prisoner by the collar, and was taking the handkerchief from him—I recognised it as being mine—there was no particular mark on it—it was a silk handkerchief.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Is the person here who had hold of him? A. He is not, that I am aware of.

COURT. Q. Are you quite sure you saw a gentleman take from the prisoner's person a pocket handkerchief? A. I am—I think the prisoner had it up by his shoulder; the gentleman seized him on one side, and got it from him, and handed it to me—the gentleman said nothing to the prisoner, further than he would charge him at the office—he was looking for an officer—he did not say what the prisoner had been doing, that I am aware of—I believe the handkerchief he took from him to be mine—the gentleman said nothing in my presence—the prisoner begged me not to press the charge when at the office; and, indeed, I did not wish to do it, as I did not see him take it.

THOMAS LIGHTFOOT . I am a policeman. I have a handkerchief, which was handed to me by Mr. Craig—I was in Fleet-street, but saw no part of the transaction—the witness did not appear before the Alderman—I found another handkerchief on the prisoner.

JOHN CRAIG re-examined. I am quite sure this is my pocket-handkerchief—I do not know who robbed me—I might hare used the handkerchief ten minutes before—whether I dropped it, I cannot say.


Before Mr. Justice Patteson.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-589
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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589. GEORGE TAYLOR was indicted for feloniously receiving, on the 1st of January, 4 waiters, value 4s.; and 11 tea-boards, value 30s.; the goods of Henry Grainge and another, well knowing them to have been stolen.

EDWARD ROGERS . I am servant to Henry and Daniel Grainge, who are ironmongers at Uxbridge. Their premises were broken open and robbed on the night of Christmas-day; and about forty waiters stoles, among other things—since the prisoner has been in custody, I have seen some of them—I had seen them safe the day before the robbery—(property produced)—these are part of what were stolen that night—they are worth 30s. altogether.

JAMES YOUNG . I keep the Spread Eagle, at Watford. I saw the prisoner, on Wednesday, the 7th of January, in Watford—nobody was with him—he did not ask me to buy any thing.

JAMES SMITH . I keep the One Crown, at Watford. I saw the prisoner at my house on Wednesday, the 7th of January—he offered me some waiters for sale, like these produced—I said I did not want any—he sold a pair in my bar to Mr. Gurney, a broker; and, afterwards, he bothered me a long while, saying he was broken down, and wanted money—I bought four of him—I afterwards gave them to Birch, the officer.

SOPHIA NAYLOR . I am the wife of William Naylor, who lives at Watford. The prisoner came to my house on Saturday, with William Smith, of Uxbridge-moor—the prisoner lives at Uxbridge—Smith asked me to let him leave something at my house—the prisoner heard him—he wanted to leave eleven trays—they were wrapped up—he said he bought

them in London, and would call for them in the course of eight or nine days—he said he was going to London to buy some more—neither of them came back to my house afterwards—Taylor had some waiters under his arm, but whether it was any of the eleven I do not know—I gave them to the constable.

JOHN BIRCH . I received the waiters from Smith, and eleven trays from Naylor—I was present at the prisoner's examination before Mr. Dagnall, the magistrate, on the 13th of January—Mr. Woodbridge, the clerk, took down what he stated, in my presence—it was read over to him, and he wrote his name to it in my presence—the magistrate counter-signed it—this is the paper which was read to him, and which he signed—I believe it to be so—I saw it signed by the prisoner and the magistrate—(read.)

"George Taylor, charged before me with felony, voluntarily says—that William Smith came to him in the Market-house, at Uxbridge, and asked him whether he wanted to earn 1s.; he said, 'Yes.' He went over to Watford with Smith on Thursday evening, and stopped there, at Mrs. Naylor's house, all night: he got up in the morning, and fetched his goods; he went with him, and he and Smith brought up the trays and waiters together to Mrs. Naylor's house. Smith put him (Taylor) out a lot to go and sell: Taylor was to have all he got over the price put on them by Smith."—"George Taylor."

"Taken before me, this 20th day of January, 1835.

"Thomas Dagnall."


Fourth Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-590
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty; Guilty > unknown

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590. BENJAMIN BOLTON and JOSEPH JARMAN were indicted for stealing, on the 4th of February, 1 pair of trowsers, value 5s., the goods of Samuel Jeggins.


CHARLES GROSVENOR . I am a hatter, and live in High-street, Shadwell. On the 4th of February, I saw the prisoner, Bolton, go to Mr. Juggins's house, loose a pair of trowsers, and take them—the prisoner, Jarman, stood before him while he unloosed a pair of trowsers which hung outside, on the door-post of Mr. Jeggins' premises—he lives opposite to me—the prisoner was endeavouring to prevent any body from seeing what Bolton was doing—he could not see what the other did, because he was looking about to see if any body observed him—he had his back to him the whole time—they went away, and returned to the spot, three different times, and were evidently in company—there was a few words passed between then—they evidently appeared connected together—they walked together, and returned together in company—as soon as Bolton had got the trowsers he ran away with them—I followed him, and cannot say what Jarman did—I stopped Bolton, and he dropped the trowsers at my feet—I brought him back to Mr. Jeggins, and found Jannan in custody when I came back—they both had aprons on—the prisoner stood before Bolton, with his hands before him perfectly quiet; and at the time the trowsers were removed, he appeared particularly agitated—they were there for a quarter of an hour together, before the trowsers were taken.

SAMUEL JEGGINS . I am a slopseller, and live in High-street, Shadwell. These trowsers hung on my door-post—my attention was called to them by a gentleman, and I missed them—Jarman was then about twenty yards from the shop going from the shop in the same direction as Bolton—I

followed, and asked him to come back—he was very willing to come back—he only said he had done nothing—Grosvenor brought back Bolton, with my trowsers.

WILLIAM OSMAN (police-constable K 61.) I went on this evening to Mr. Jeggins' shop, and took Jarman into custody—I produce the trowsers—I searched him, and found a pocket-book and metal spoon on him.

Prisoner's Defence. I and a friend of mine were going to seek for a job, and walked towards Ratcliff-highway, where my friend had a sister he wished to call on—I went with him to Shadwell—in High-street he said, if I waited a few minutes he should not be long—I stopped about the street, walking to and fro, till he should come out—and while so doing, this man stole the trowsers, but I saw nothing of it—I had never seen the man before in my life—when he was taken I was walking along leisurely, and the witness sung out, "That is another"—I made no resistance, for I had done nothing.

CHARLES GROSVENOR re-examined. I saw no third man that the prisoner was walking with, nor any body he could be waiting for, besides Bolton.

GUILTY . Aged 41.—Both Confined for Six Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-592
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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592. JOHN VARDON was indicted for feloniously receiving of an evil-disposed person, on the 31st of December at Edmonton, 4 bundles of osiers, value 8s., the goods of Stephen Pott, well knowing them to he stolen. Another COUNT, calling the goods withies.

MR. ADOLPHUS conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS ALFRED POTT . I am the son of Stephen Pott, of Edmonton; he has an osier ground at Enfield. On the 31st of December Stephen Reed was employed to cart some osiers—Welch, who was convicted yesterday, was his servant—I saw the osiers in the cart when they were being unloaded—I saw Ansell with them—he was not in our employ, nor in Reed's—I saw them unloaded in my father's yard at Edmonton, where they are deposited—43 bundles were unloaded; there ought to have been 47—I had not given directions for any part of them to be unloaded elsewhere—I manage my father's business—I went to see them unloaded, in consequence of information; I went to the prisoner's premises about in hour afterwards—the constable afterwards took John Vardon into custody, and Ansell was taken into custody afterwards—I went to the prisoner's house; he keeps the William the Fourth beer-shop, at Edmonton, and is a turnip-buncher, and ties up turnips for the market—thin osiers are much used for that purpose—I went down his yard, through the turnip-bunching shed, and found one bundle of osiers—a great many of them were thin, sufficiently to bunch turnips with—there were several persons about, but not employed in bunching turnips—they appeared such osiers as had been on our ground—I then went round to inform Camp—he and the prisoner came together to where I had found the one bundle—I asked the prisoner if they belonged to him—he said no, they did not—I said, "Do you know they belong to my father?"—he said, "I do not know who they belong to"—the constable said, "There are three more bundles misting; will you allow us to search further?"—he said, "Yes"—we searched in a stable he did not point it out, but we came to a stable door, it was then opened, and we there saw the three other bundles, making the four which were missing—Camp asked the prisoner if they were hit—he said "No"—we

said, "May we take them away?"—he said, "Yes; they are not mine"—they were then carried to the cart and taken away—the prisoner was left behind—he was taken into custody next day—I do not know his son—some young man was there—I have not seen that young man since, to my knowledge—directions have been given to search after him—the osiers are worth 2s. a bundle, they would sell for rather more.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did not the prisoner assist you in searching? A. He assisted me in carrying them to the cart—I believe he came before the Justice in custody.

GEORGE ANSELL . On the 31st of December, Welch asked me to go with him, and I went with him after some osiers, down the marsh, to Mr. Pott's ground, with a cart—we put forty-seven bundles of osiers into the cart, and drove with them towards Edmonton—while we were going along, we came by Vardon's beer-shop, and we put down four bolts of osiers at his house—I put them out of the cart, and Vardon's son took them in—he stood close by the cart while I put them down—the prisoner was not present—he was inside the house—he never saw me put them down—I did not sit down in the house—we went and had a pot of beer before we put the osiers down, and after they were taken in we had one pint more between us—the prisoner fetched the last pint—we did not pay for it—I never paid, and I did not see Welch pay—I saw Vardon put his hand in his right hand pocket, and pull out some money to give Welch—I cannot say how mueh—Welch started off, and never said a word to me—I then ran, and overtook him driving towards Edmonton—while I was driving on, I saw the men who cut Mr. Pott's osiers come by—Bennett was one of them—the other, Baynes, I think—when we got to Edmonton, Welch said to me, "Go and open the gate"—we took no more osiers out till we delivered them in Mr. Pott's yard—young Mr. Pott was in the yard—he said nothing to me—I was not there all the while the cart was unloading—they were all taken out of the cart—there were forty-three bundles—there had been forty-seven, but four were left at Vardon's—I was taken into custody about half an hour afterwards—I was examined before the Justice, and told what I have now—I was ordered to prison, to be a witness here, and have been so to this time—I went before the Justice with the prisoner—he said, as we went, "Whatever you do, do not say I am in it, and I will employ you a counsellor"—I made answer, "I do not want a counsellor, I mean to speak the truth; I am brought into it, and know nothing about it."

JURY. Q. Which of the Vardons gave Welch the money? A. The prisoner.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Before what magistrate did you go? A. Mr. Mores, and a magistrate living at Palmer's Green, at Edmonton—Mr. Sawyer was the clerk—I made a statement, which was read to me after it was taken down by the clerk—I stated, that was all I knew of the matter, which was the truth—I said what Vardon told me as we were coming along—it was taken down, and read over to me—I was examined here yesterday morning—I did not say any thing about it then—I was once charged with stealing, down in Kent—I was not innocent—I had four months of it in Maidstone gaol, but not on the tread-mill, for I was lame—it is nearly twelve months ago. The Magistrate ordered me to be kept in custody, because I could not find bail—they took me up for a prisoner at first—I said nothing, until I got to the magistrate.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Was it while you were going before the Justice that the conversation took place between you and Vardon? A. Yes—I

told the Justice about it before the clerk took, down my deposition—I stated it all at once.

JAMES ALSOP . I am clerk to Mr. Jessop. I attended the examination before the Justice, and heard what the witness stated—what was taken down and returned in the deposition, was read over to him, and after it was read over to him, he said something.

Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN. Q. You took down the statement of the witness? A. No, I was present when it was taken—I am not aware that there was more than one examination—he was examined, and the deposition taken in writing, and when it was read over to him he stated something—I was only present at one examination—that was when Ansell's statement was taken—he was then in custody.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Did he, while he was before the magistrate, after his statement was read over to him, make a statement concerning the conversation he had had with the prisoner on the way to the office? A. Yes, it was agreeable to what he has said to-day—he said, as near as I can recollect, "There is one thing I have forgot, when I was coming from the station-house, Vardon said, "Do not say any thing about me, I will provide you a counsellor," or words to that effect.

MR. BODKIN. Q. How long have you acted as clerk to Mr. Jessop? A. About fifteen years—the examination was on the 2nd of January—there was no prisoner committed for trial at that examination—I now recollect there was another examination—I was present at it, and at the third—I was alluding to another case, when I said theft was only one—I was not alluding to another witness—I believe Ansell was present at the second examination, and at the third—I did not take the original examination—I heard the deposition read over to him at the last examination—I believe it was not signed the last day—it was the first—I have no recollection of its being signed the last day—I have had no conversation with Ansell since yesterday's trial—not on the subject of this case—I have seen him about the Court—I passed and repassed him—but have not spoken to him.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. At the third examination did not you yourself ask Ansell if he had any thing to add to his examination, and he answered, "No?" A. I read the deposition over to him, and asked him if it was quite correct—he stated that it was—I do not remember asking him if he had any thing to add to it.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. How long has Mr. Jessop been clerk to the Justice? A. Long before I came to him—he has continued to be so—he has often sent depositions to the Assizes—I have assisted in taking those depositions—they were never found fault with before, that I am aware of—what Ansell said about the conversation with the prisoner, was stated so that Mr. Jessop, the magistrate, could hear—I made a memorandum of it on the rough minutes, I believe—they are not here.

MR. CLARKSON to G. ANSELL. Q. Where did you go last night after leaving this place? A. To the House of Correction—I came here this morning—I know Mr. Alsop—he was at Edmonton—I have not seen him before this afternoon—I did not pass and repass him in the Court or any where, only down in the yard—I have had no conversation with him—I never spoke to him, nor he to me—I never heard him speak to any body—I was three times before the Justice on this job—Mr. Alsop asked me on he last occasion, if I had any thing to add to my deposition, and I up and told him the same as I spoke here—that was the last time, and after I

had signed it, he asked me if I had any more to say, and I told him "No"—I had no more to say, not there, because I had spoken all I had to say—it was the first time that I told him what Vardon said—he took that down in writing, at the Bench at Edmonton—it was read over to me at the cage, not by Mr. Jessop—it was Mr. Eykyn, the magistrate.

JOHN CAMP . I went with young Mr. Pott to examine Vardon'a premises, on the 31st of December—Vardon knew I was a constable of Edmonton—I sent Mr. Pott into the yard, and I went into the house to ask for Vardon—when I saw him, I told him I had been informed they suspected some osiers were left there belonging to Mr. Pott—he said not that he knew of—I asked him then if he would give me leave to look—he said, "Yes, and welcome"—he went into the yard with me—I looked into the stables, but saw nothing there—I turned round and said, "Is there any thing in this shed below?"—I went to go to the door—he said, "Stop, it is locked, I will fetch you the key"—he did so—there was nothing then—Pott came and said, "I have found one bolt down the yard"—I told him to go back and stop till I came—I returned through the house into the yard, down to the place where it was—I asked Vardon if it was his bundle of osiers—he said, "No"—I said, "Who does it belong to?"—he said, "I do not know"—Mr. Pott said, "It belongs to my father"—the prisoner said, "I do not know any thing at all about it"—I said, "Will you give me leave to take it?"—he said, "Certainly"—he took it up, took it on his shoulder, and carried it to my cart—I said, "There are three more missing—is there anymore on your premises?"—he said, "Not that I know of—I said, "May I go into this stable here?"—he said, "Yes, and welcome"—he went with me, and on opening the door I found three bolts standing in the stable—not the first stable—that is in another yard—this stable door was not locked—I asked him if they belonged to him—he said, "No"—I said, "How came they here?"—he said, "I do not know"—I asked him if he would give me leave to take them also—he said, "Yes, take them, and welcome"—when his son came, I asked him if he knew any thing of them—he said, "No"—I believe Vardon and his son each carried a bolt to the cart—the son brought another, and I took then away—the bundle which laid at the bottom of the yard near where turnips had been bunched, appeared to have had a few drawn out from the bottom, but I could not swear that, only by seeing four or five of them about three parts drawn out—I afterwards took the prisoners before the Justice—I went down to his house the following day, and asked for him—his wife said, "He is gone to London, do you want him?"—I said, "Yes"—she said, "When he comes home, I will tell him"—next morning, about half-past seven o'clock, his brother came to my house, and said, "Do you want to see Vardon?"—I said, "Yes"—he said, "If you want to see him, he will meet you any where you like to say"—I said, "Let him meet me about ten o'clock, at Lower Edmonton"—I waited there till ten minutes after ten o'clock—he did not come—I set off to go to his house, and turned my head down an alley from the back of his house, and he came up to me—I took him before the magistrate—I have looked for his son since, but cannot find him, or hear of him at all.

JAMES BENNETT . I was in the employ of Mr. Pott; on the 31st of December, or about that time, I made up some bundles of osiers—I always tie the bottom bands myself—I know my own tie when I see it—I saw the bundles found at the prisoner's, they were my tying, all four of them—there were none taken out of any of them—I could not swear to a rod or

two, but I could see no difference—I loaded forty-seven bolts on the cart, and saw Welch drive them away—I saw the four bolts at the cage, in the care of Carter, the cage-man.

JOHN CAMP re-examined. I saw the osiers shown to the witness at the cage—they were the same as were found at the prisoner's premises.

COURT to GEORGE ANSELL. Q. Where did the cart stop, at how near to the beer-shop? A. Close by the house—there is a window to the house, right facing the cart—any body in that room could see the bundles taken from the cart—there are two rooms on the ground floor, one on the right, and one on the left—they both look into the road—I first saw the prisoner in the tap-room—I went into the tap-room directly I got from the cart, and found him there—he was sitting on a table before the window, and had an opportunity of seeing what was going on—there was nothing between him and the cart, but the window—the osiers stood right facing the window—he could not hear what passed.


NEW COURT.—Friday, Feburary 6, 1835.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Common Serjeant.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-593
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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593. JOHN DOUGLAS was indicted for a misdemeanor.

MR. ELLIS conducted the Prosecution.

ALFRED ST. QUINTIN CRITCHER . I keep the Cape of Good Hope public-house, Devonshire-mews, Marylebone. On the 24th of January, the prisoner came in a few minutes after three o'clock in the afternoon—he called for a small glass of gin, and a halfpenny biscuit, which came to 2d.—he offered me a good crown-piece—I am sure it was good, for I rang it on a piece of marble—I then put it into the drawer—he then said, "I believe I have a 6d. about me"—I said, "It is no difference, I son give you change for the crown-piece"—I gave it him back, and he put down half-a-sovereign—I said, "You are now offering a half-sovereign"—he took that, and then offered me a counterfeit crown—I said, "You d—d rascal, I have been waiting for you some time"—I collared him, and sent for a policeman—the prisoner said he could give respctable references if I could let him go—he was searched in my bar—he took, off his two coats, waistcoat, hat, and gloves—I felt about them, but could find no other crown—we were going to take off his trowsers, but he said from delicacy he hoped we would not take them, off—I said I knew he had a good crown about him—he repeatedly said he had not—we then took him to the station-house—we took off his boots, and this crown fell down—he stooped and picked it up, and resisted very violently—I caught hold of his hand, and said he would swallow it—we had to get it from him by force.

Cross-examined by MR. CLABKSON. Q. Did you know him? A. No—I did not observe the date on the first crown, nor on the bad one, but I marked that; there were some shillings and two half-crowns in the till, but, no other crown-piece—he pulled out a half-sovereign, but that; did not satisfy my mind that he intended it for a sixpence—I cannot tell the date on the first crown, but I know it was silver by the ring and the feel—bad coin has a particular slippery feel.

ROBERT DONCARA (police-constable D 56.) I took the prisoner, and searched him in the bar—I found on him a half-sovereign, a penny, and two half-pence—he said be had no more money about him—I took him to the station-house—he still denied having any more, money—I pulled off his right boot—he made some objection to take off his left—it was taken

off, and out fell this crown-piece—he seized it, and resisted very much—I called another constable, and got it from him by force.

JOHN FIELD . I am Inspector of counterfeit coin to His Majesty's Mint. Bad money has a greasy or soapy feel to what good silver has—I think I could tell the difference with my eyes shut—they are not so easily detected by the ring as by the feel—this crown is counterfeit.

ALFRED CRITCHER re-examined. I had not told the prisoner the price of the gin and biscuit—he might think it came to more than two-pence—the half-sovereign was good.

GUILTY . Aged 28.— Confined One Year.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-594
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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594. JOHN SIMPSON was indicted for a misdemeanor.

MR. ELLIS conducted the Prosecution.

RICHARD WILLIAM CALDWELL . I live with James Ames, cheesemonger, Duke-street, Manchester-square. On the 10th of January, the prisoner came between ten and eleven o'clock in the evening—he asked the price of a bit of bacon, at the door—I said 6d. a pound—he offered me 5d., and then 5 1/2 d—I refused that—he said he would give me 6d.—he took it into the shop to weigh it—it came to 10d.—he threw down a half-crown, which my master took up.

Prisoner. Q. You followed me to a distance, did you not? A. Yes, to the corner of Duke-street—I told you you had given my master a bad half-crown—I think you had the bacon in your pocket then—nobody but me followed him—he would have run off.

JAMES AMES . I am master of the shop. I took the half-crown of the prisoner—I rang it first on the counter, and did not much like it—I rubbed it, and saw it was not good—I gave him the change, and he put the bacon in his pocket—he went out as quiet as possible—I told the boy to follow him—he came back without resistance—I asked him where he got it—he said he would give me another for it—I said that would not do, it was not the first he had given me, and I should make an example of him—he attempted to force his way out of the shop—I took hold of his coat slightly, but he twisted his head under my arm and away he ran—I followed, and cried "Stop thief"—he was stopped and given to the officer—he said he lived at No. 4, John-street.

Prisoner. Q. Did I not come back and give up the article I had purchased? A. No; you put it down, clandestinely, on the table behind you, that I should not see you—you had been at my shop, and passed a half-crown, I think twice—you were quite sober.

PATRICK CONNELLY (police-sergeant D 6.) I took the prisoner—the prosecutor had him by the collar, and gave him in charge—I searched him, and found 3d. in copper, two skeins of silk, and a pen-knife—I took him to the station-house, and saw him take something out of his mouth, and put into his pocket—I found 1s. 6d. in silver, which is good—I went to No. 4, John-street—no such person lived there.

JAMES FELL . I am chief clerk at the police-office at Marylebone. I was present at the examination of the prisoner on this charge—I took a note of what he said—(reads)"I am certainly guilty of it—necessity drove me to it—it is the first time, and shall be the last."

MR. FIELD proved the half-crown to be counterfeit.

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Six Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-595
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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595. HENRY RICHARDSON was indicted for a misdemeanor.

ROBERT SPREADBROW . I live in the Knightsbridge-road. On the 14th of January, the prisoner came to my father's shop, who is a tobacconist—he asked for a pennyworth of shag tobacco—I served him—he gave me sixpence—I said, "I think this is a bad sixpence"—he took it out of my hand again, and tried to bend it, but it would not bend—I then put it into the till, and gave him the change—there was no other silver in the till then—the policeman brought him into the shop—I marked the sixpence, and gave it to the policeman.

ROBERT GOOSE (police-constable B 55.) I was on duty, in company with Banister—I saw the prisoner three quarters of a mile from the prosecutor's—I knew him—he was coming from Westminster—I followed him to Knightsbridge, and there I lost him—I then saw him a come along the road—I did not see him go into the prosecutor's shop, but I saw him come out—I laid hold of him, and asked what he had been at—he said, "Buying tobacco, to be sure"—I said, "What did you give for it?"—he said, "A sixpence"—I said, "Was it a good one?"—he said "Yes"—I took him back to this witness—he said he had given him a sixpence, which he said was bad, as it would bend—that the prisoner had taken it, and tried to bend it, and said it would not bend, and it was good—I then searched the prisoner, and found seventeen sixpences on him in a rag—I asked where be got them from—he said, Tom gave them to him—that he did not know his other name, but he was a tall man, and wore a fustian jacket—I said, it was odd he could not tell who the man was—he said he had seen him last night, and he gave him threepence to get him a lodging, that he gave him this bad money to pass, and was to meet him that night at the corner of Pye-street, and he would pay him for what he had passed.

Prisoner. Q. Where did you first see me? A. At the bottom of Grosvenor-place—there was no one with you—I first saw you in a lodging-house, with a great many bad characters.

SAMUEL BANISTER . I am an Inspector. I received this sixpence from the first witness—what has been said is correct.

JOHN FIELD . These eighteen sixpences are all bad.

Prisoner. Will you allow the statement to be read that I made to Mr. Powell?

JOHN FIELD . I heard it made, and read over to the prisoner. Mr. Powell it not here, but it was a long statement, that a man named Picket gave him eighteen bad sixpences to pass—that Picket went with him to Knightsbridge—that he had worked for Mr. Baaset, in Store-street, three months ago, and had been in no employ since.

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined One Year.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-596
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment; Imprisonment

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596. MARIA HOLLOWAY, LOUISA BROWN , and MARGARET GREEN, alias Margaret Rourke, alias Cane , were indicted for a misdemeanor.

MR. ELLIS conducted the Prosecution.

CHARLES BENNICK STRAY . I am a shoemaker, and live in Tottenham-court-road. On the 1st of January the prisoner Holloway came into my shop for a pair of child's shoes—the price was 1s. 6d.—she offered me a crown-piece—while I was giving her change, Brown came in, and asked me the price of Adelaide boots—I said 5s. 6d. a pair, and she had better take a pair then—she said "No, I will hare them by and by"—

Holloway then said, "Five and sixpence is a very fair price for a pair of good boots"—I said to Holloway, "Does this Jady belong to you?"—she said, "No; I never saw her in my life"—Holloway then took the shoes and the change, and went out of the shop—Brown remained a minute or two after her—they both seemed to be intoxicated—Holloway said, "You will change these if they will not do"—I suspected the crown-piece was bad, and I sent my son after them—I put the crown-piece into the till—I had no other crown there—my son came back, and spoke to me—I took the crown-piece from the till, and put it into my pocket—I then sent my son out again—he then returned—I went out, and saw Green and Brown in a silversmith's shop—Holloway was at the window, looking in—I pushed Holloway into the shop, shut them all three in, and sent my son for an officer, who came and took them prisoners—Holloway denied having bought any shoes, or having been in my shop, and she threw away the shoes unknown to any body, but they were found there—they had a basket with two bottles of Sherry wine, but they would not own it nor any thing else—I marked the crown-piece, and gave it to the inspector—I recollect the half-crown I gave to Holloway was a new one.

Cross-examined by MR. CHAMBERS. Q. These women appeared intoxicated? A. Yes—they had not drawn the cork of these bottles—it was about five or sit minutes before I went to Mr. Heyliger's shop—them was time for them to go away—I said to Holloway, "You have been in my shop, and had a pair of shoes just now"—she said, "Me! I am sure I have never been in your shop"—there were two or three other persons came in, I believe—Mr. Heyliger was not at home—Holloway was taken and searched in the parlour—I will swear I had no other crown-piece in the till—I gave the crown to the officer in Mr. Heyliger's shop—I had no other money, I never carry money with me.

Cross-examined by MR. ROE. Q. This was about five or six o'clock in the evening? Yes—Brown came into ray shop while Holloway was there—there was no other person in my shop—Brown did not sit down—they both stood close together—I was behind the counter—there was no one but me in the shop—Brown asked me the question while I was giving Holloway change—she did not tell me she thought them too dear.

ALFRED JOHN STRAY . I am the witness's son. I came into his shop while Holloway and Brown were there—when they were gone, I went out, and saw them stand talking at the limp-post—Green was with them—they were not more than one house from Mr. Heyliger's—I went back to my father—I then went out again, and saw Green and Brown in Mr. Heyliger's shop, and Holloway was looking in at the window—Green did not appear intoxicated, the others did.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Were there many people about? A. Not many—they were standing still while they were talking—Holloway had a basket, and Green bad a child.

Cross-examined by MR. ROE. Q. What distance were they from you? A. About two doors—I did not hear what they said—they seemed as if they were speaking.

ELIZABETH HEYLIGER . My husband is a jeweller. On the 1st of January, Green came into our shop about six o'clock—she asked for a gilt snap and a gilt ring—I served her, and she offered me a five-shilling-piece—directly she put it down I saw it was had, and told her so—Brown came in while I was looking at the crown-piece, and she asked to look at some black drops—I showed her some—she said they did not suit her—I then

looked at the crown-piece again—I saw it was bad, and gave it to my lad to take it out to see if it was good—he brought it back—Mr. Stray then pushed Holloway into the shop with her basket—she threw a pair of child's shoes under the counter, and I saw her put some money under the mat—I kept the crown-piece in my hand, and marked it, and gave it to the officer—I did not observe any one at the window, but I thought when Brown came in she was connected with Green.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. When Holloway threw the shoes under the counter, who was in the shop? A. Mr. Stray and my husband, Mr. Stray's son and the boy—the shop is not very large—the other persons were not near to Holloway—I saw her put the money under the mat.

Cross-examined by MR. ROE. Q. Green came in first? A. Yes, and while I was talking with her, Brown came in and asked to look at the black drops—she was quite tipsy—our house is only two doors from Stray's.

JAMES HILL . I am shop-boy to Mrs. Heyliger. She gave me the crown-piece to go and get change—I gave her the same back again.

SAMUEL RICE . I am an inspector of police. I went to Mrs. Heyliger's shop, and saw the three prisoners there—I took them into custody and searched them—Brown had a sovereign, a five-shilling-piece, a sixpence, and 2d. on her, all good—I saw Holloway put something under the mat—I lifted it up, and found there two good half-crowns—these child's shoes were given to me by some one—these are the two crown-pieces I received from Stray and Heyliger.

JOSEPH STANNARD (police-constable E 56.) I assisted in taking the prisoners—when we got to the office, Holloway said to Green, "We must be strangers, we must not know each other"—Brown appeared rather intoxicated—the others, I believe, were sober.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Where did you hear this said? A. At Hatton-garden office, while they were waiting to go into the magistrate's room—I had seen them whispering together before—they asked each other whether this wine belonged to them—they all said "No"—I was just in front of them—they knew I could hear them when they said they must not know each other.

(Holloway received a good character.)

HOLLOWAY— GUILTY .— Confined Six Months.

GREEN— GUILTY .— Confined One Year.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-597
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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597. MARY ANN DAVIS was indicted for a misdemeanor.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-598
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Guilty > unknown

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598. JAMES WRIGHT and CHARLES HODGES were indicted for a misdemeanor.

CAROLINE HITCHINSON . My mother lives at Bethnal-green—last Friday week, between six and Seven o'clock, the prisoner Hodges came to my mother's shop for half-a-pound of tripe—it came to 2d.—he gave me a shilling, and said, "Make haste, girl, I am in a hurry"—I gave him 10d., and he ran out—I afterwards found the shilling was bad, and ran after him, but could not see him.

HARRIET HITCHINSON . I was up stairs when the prisoner came into my shop—my daughter gave me the shilling about three minutes after he

was gone—I put it into my pocket—I saw the prisoner on the Saturday—I gave the same shilling to the officer.

GEORGE TEAKLE (police-constable H 121.) I was on duty the same evening, and saw Hodges in Brick-lane, eighteen or twenty yards from Hitchinson's shop—he ran, I pursued him, but did not catch him—I saw him the next day in the office, and recognised him.

JOHN CARTER . I am a watch-maker, and live in Hackney-road—I sell tobacco. On the 23rd of January, at half-past seven o'clock in the evening, Wright came in for half an ounce of tobacco—I was present—he gave my wife a shilling, which was put into the till—she gave him change, and he left the shop—she directly said she thought it was a bad shilling—it was taken out of the till again—there was no other shilling there—I looked at the shilling and pursued the prisoner—I saw him a few doors from my shop—he went up to Hodges—they stood together about a minute, and then walked on together towards Shoreditch—I watched them walking together for 150 yards—they then separated—Wright came over to the opposite side, where I was—Hodges then called out, "Jem, Jem"—I seized Wright, and told a policeman who was there to go and take Hodges, and he went—I called to him that it was for bad money—two good sixpences were found on Wright, and fourpence-halfpenny in copper—the tobacco he bought at my shop came to 1 1/2 d., and my wife gave him a sixpence, and 4 1/2 d. in copper—this is the counterfeit shilling.

Hodges. He says I called Jem, it is impossible for him to tell who called in the dark. Witness. These was no one else passing.

JOSEPH NEWSOM . I am a shoemaker, and was in the Hackney-road on the 23rd of January. I saw Carter with Wright by the collar—he said it was for passing bad money—I saw Green go across the road and take Hodges—I heard him say, "He has thrown away some bad money"—I looked about and found this bad shilling near Hodges's feet.

JOHN GREEN (police-constable N 214.) I was on duty—I saw Carter take Wright, and heard Hodges call Jem—I crossed the road and collared him—he was walking with his hands in his pockets—I told him to take them out of his pockets—he did so, and something dropped—I desired a boy to get a light—he refused—Newsom then came up and found the shilling—I found on Hodges 4s. and 1s. 6 1/4 d. in copper—I asked why he threw away the shilling—he said a bad shilling was of no use to him, and he had a right to throw it away if he liked.

MR. FIELD. These three shillings are all counterfeit, and those produced by Carter and Newsom are from the same mould.

Wright's Defence. I never was in Carter's shop—I came past and heard his wife say, "There he goes, on the opposite side of the way"—I walked on and saw Hodges—I asked him if he could inform me where I could find a person I was looking for—he said, No, but if I went to the public-house opposite I could get information—I crossed, and Carter caught me.

Hodges's Defence. I was in Hackney-road, and the prisoner asked me if I knew a person of the name of Jones—I said No, but if he went to the public-house he could get information—I was walking on, and the policeman came and collared me—I had 5s. in my hand—I dropped one—I do not know whether it was bad.



Confined One Year.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-599
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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599. WILLIAM JOHNSON was indicted for a misdemeanor.

ALFRED ALLOWAY . I am the son of Richard Alloway—he lives in

Cross-street, Ball's-pond—my mother keeps a shop, and tells bread and flour. I saw the prisoner come in on a Saturday night, two or three Saturdays ago, between seven and eight o'clock—he asked for half-a-quartern of flour—I served him—it came to fourpence-halfpenny—he gave me a five-shilling-piece—I took it into the room behind, the shop, where my mother was, and put it on the table, and she gave me the change, a half-crown, two shillings, a penny, and a halfpenny—I gave it to the prisoner, and he took the flour off the counter, put it into his pocket, and walked off quickly—the flour was in a brown paper bag—my mother called to me, "Follow him out, it is a bad one"—I followed, and saw him at the corner, about two yards off—I saw him put out his hand to another man who stood there—I called, "Hoy, hoy, please Sir my mother wants you"—he said, "Who is your mother?"—I said, "You know—where you came and had the half-quartern of flour"—he said, "O no, my boy, it is not me, you must be mistaken, I am not the man"—my mother then came up, took hold of his collar, and said, "You scoundrel, it is you; if you do not come back I will make you"—she took him back to the shop—as he was going back he said, "What change did you give me?"—my mother said, "A half-crown, two shillings, a penny-piece, and a halfpenny"—when we got to the shop he said, "I will show you all the money I have got," he pulled out some money and put it on the counter, but there was no half-crown in it—he said he would not be taken by my mother, and he snapped away from her—there was a policeman on the other side, who took him—I am sure he is the man—he never went out of my sight only when he turned the corner—I was not half a minute after him—there was no one to be seen but the prisoner and the other man.

Cross-examined by MR. ROE. Q. Did you never see him before? A. I do not know that I did—there were not many persons about—I did not see any body in Ball's-pond-road—I did not see the policeman until my mother called him in—the prisoner was dressed in a dark coat and snuff-coloured trowsers—I never said he had green coat on—I said he had a dark coat on—there was no light in the shop—my mother had the light in her hand when I gave the prisoner the change, and she stood at the room door.

LUCY ALLOWAY . I am mother of this witnesss. On the 10th of January, between seven and eight o'clock, he came to me to change this crown-piece, as I was in the roam behind the shop—I gave him a half-crown, two shillings, an old penny-piece, andahalfpenny—I did not touch the crown-piece—I saw it on the table—I got up, took the candle in my hand, and looked at the prisoner—I knew him by sight—I saw him put the flour into his pocket—I then looked at the crown, and said, "follow him, Alfred, it is bad"—he went out—I followed him as fast as I could—I heard him call, "Hoy! hoy!"—I said, "Follow him, child, he will not come hack for that"—I had my baby in my arms, sucking, at the time—I went round the corner—I saw the prisoner—he was saying to my boy, "I am not the man, you we mistaken"—I said, "Yes, you are, you villain!"—I brought him back—he said, "I suppose you know what money you gave me"—I said, "Yes," and he said, "To convince you, I will show you what I have," and there was no half-crown among it—I had before told him he had given me a bad crown-piece—I had seen a man within three or four yards of him, but I had not seen any thing pass between them—the prisoner went out of my house agains and said, "I will be d—d if I will be taken by you"—I said, "I will follow you"—I saw the policeman on the other side the way, and

called him—I had the crown piece in my hand, and showed it him—he said he would rather give me 5s. than be locked up, if I would give him the five-shilling-piece back—there were eight sixpences found on him and 7 3/4 d. in copper—I saw the bag the flour was in—I have the fellow bag to it—they are not marked.

Cross-examined. Q. When you seized this man he went back quietly? A. No; he felt confused—my shop is rather long—there was no light in the shop—I came to the room door with a candle in my hand—I then saw the prisoner—I know I had seen him before—he wore snuff-coloured trowsers and a dark coat—I never said he wore a short-cut brown coat—this is one of the bags used in my shop for holding flour—he showed me the money he had, but he had parted with what I gave him, before he came back—it was on Saturday night, but there was not a creature about but him and the other man.

HENRY MCLEAN (police-constable N 237.) I took charge of the prisoner at the shop—I found on him eight sixpences and 7 3/4 d.—I found this bag of flour in his pocket—he said he had some flour, certainly, but he was not the person who had been in her shop—this is the crown-piece I got from Mrs. Alloway.

LUCY ALLOWAY . This is the same sort of flour as went out of our shop.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you not more than one sort of flour? A. No; I have seen the prisoner loitering and walking about there—I cannot tell how the other man was dressed—I know he had a long coat, but the prisoner had a pigeon-tailed coat on.

MR. FIELD. This crown-piece is counterfeit.

HENRY MCLEAN re-examined. The prisoner had a black coat on, to the best of my opinion—the woman gave him in charge for, as she said, robbing her by giving her a bad five-shilling-piece—the wanted the change of him, but he would not give it her.

GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined One Year.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-600
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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600. THOMAS BROWN was indicted for a misdemeanor.

SARAH ROBINSON . I am the wife of Samuel Richard Robinson, who keeps the Crown public-house in Thornbugh-street, Bloomsbury. The prisoner came in last Sunday night for two-pennyworth of rum—I served him, and he offered me a bad sixpence—I refused it—he wanted it back from me, but he had drank part of the rum, and I told him I would not return it nor give him the change, until he brought me another sixpence—he began to abuse me—my husband heard the noise, and came from the parlour—he looked at the sixpence, and saw it was bad—he told the prisoner he should detain the sixpence, unless he paid for the rum—he put it on a shelf in the bar, and I put a glass over it.

SAMUEL RICHARD ROBINSON . I was present on the Sunday night—I went and discovered the prisoner—he had been passing a bad sixpence—he wanted it back again—it was refused—I took it from my wife, and placed it on a shelf—my wife put the glass over it—after some abuse, the prisoner went away—I am sure he is the person—he came again on the Tuesday evening, about five o'clock—he called for half-a-pint of porter, and offered a sixpence, which I told him was bad—I recognised him to be the person who had been there on Sunday—I told him so—he denied it—

I sent to the station-house—the officer came and took him—I marked the two sixpences, and gave them to the officer.

JOHN COLLISON (police-constable E 85.) I took the prisoner, and have the sixpences—the prisoner said he had no residence—I found nothing more on him.

JOHN FIELD . These sixpences are both counterfeits, but not the same die.

Prisoner's Defence. I had not been there on the Sunday—if I had, it is not likely I should have gone again—I only came to London on Monday to receive some money due to me.

GUILTY . Aged 34.— Confined One Year.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-601
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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601. SARAH PETERS was indicted for a misdemeanor.

JOHN COOPER (police-constable B 96.) I saw the prisoner on the 24th of January, in Great Peter-street—Oliver was with her—I saw something pass between them, done up in a small parcel, in a bit of rag, or something—it came from Oliver to the prisoner, who put it into her bosom—I went and asked what she had got in her bosom—she said, "Nothing"—Ford, who was with me, searched her—she rather resisted, and I was forced to hold her hands—he found this rag with eighteen counterfeit sixpences in it—she gave two or three different accounts of how she got it, and at last said she bought it of Oliver, and gave 1s. 6d. for it.

WILLIAM FORD . I have heard what has been stated—it is correct—I took this rag from the prisoner's bosom in a baker's shop—she said she bought it of Thomas Oliver, and gave 1s. 6d. for it—I went to Oliver's; when I opened the door about an inch, the bedstead was against it—I made a shove, and it opened about half a foot, and I saw Oliver with a mould in each hand—he knocked them together, and broke them all to pieces.

JOHN FIELD . I am Inspector of counterfeit coin to the Mint. These sixpences are all bad, and are from the same mould. The prisoner put in a written defence, stating, that a man whom she met in the Broadway, Westminster, had given her the parcel to carry to Tothill-street, where he was to meet her in half-an-hour.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-602
VerdictsNot Guilty > unknown

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602. HENRY DADY was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of January, 1 apron, value 1s.; 6 bottles, value 1s.; 3 drinking-glasses, value 3s.; 1 corkscrew, value 1s.; 4 quarts of wine, value 10s.; and 1 pair of scissors, value 1s.; the goods of Rosana Goddard, his mistress; and ANN DADY for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing them to have been stolen, against the Statute, &c.

ROSANA GODDARD . I keep the London Spa, Clerkenwell. The prisoner Henry was eight months in my service—I never saw the female prisoner till she was in custody—I entered the boy's room on the 16th of January, with my maid-servant—she took a box from under his bed, and found in it a brooch belonging to one of the bar-maids, and some works belonging to a roasting-jack—the key of my wine-cellar was found on the boy when the officer took him, the same evening.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. This is a very young boy? A. Yes; he is not fifteen—I never saw his mother in my house—I missed wine, but did not suspect him—he behaved well, till lately he got rather lazy.

HENRY RAWESWHITTELL . I am a surgeon. I was at Mrs. Goddard's house

on the evening of the day when the brooch and the works of a jack were found—I fetched the police-sergeant from the station—the boy was searched in my presence—some things were found on him, which led to further inquiries—and upon going to his mother, with the officer, we found some things there—amongst others, an apron, which I identified as Mrs. Goddard's, as it had been stained by a lotion which she had used to her leg some months ago—there is only one drug that will stain so as not to be obliterated.

Cross-examined. Q. Why were you in this prosecution? A. Because I am frequently there attending Mrs. Goddard,. and have been for five months—I did not see the stain on the apron the moment it was done, as it requires time to dry; but I saw the apron was wet with the lotion, as it was put under her foot to prevent the stain on the carpet—I was applying the lotion, and some was spilled—it was at her house, about three months ago—I cannot say what time of the day it was—that has been the case every day, nearly—I have a handkerchief in my pocket stained in the same manner.

MARY SHEPPARD . I live with Mrs. Goddard. Henry Dady lived then as pot-boy—I was up stairs with my mistress when she said she wished to look into his box—I took it into her bed-room, found the brooch and the brass work which had been lost.

Cross-examined. Q. When did Dr. Whittell operate on the leg last? A. Yesterday; the box these articles were in was lent, to the boy to put his things in—it was not locked—I only found a jacket, and 1s. 4 1/4 d., and a twopenny-piece in the box beside—I went for the policeman, and went with him and the doctor to the female prisoner's house—I was not there when the apron was found.

MR. CLARKSON to HENRY RAWES WHITTELL. Q. Did you not tell the mother that her son was at the point of death; and if she did not come directly, it would be too late? A. She was not at home—we left word her son was ill—I did not say if she would tell me all about it, she should not be hurt.

WILLIAM BAKER ASHTON . I am a police-sergeant. I went to the mother's house and asked if she had a son living at the London Spa—she said Yes, she had seen him on the Tuesday before—I asked if he had brought any thing home—she paid "No"—I said I had him in custody for stealing a brooch—she then brought this pint bottle of wine out of the cupboard—she was going to tell me about some other things—I said she had better not—she said she wished she had sent the first bottle of wine back, and Mr. Goddard would have forgiven her, and her dear little boy too.

Cross-examined. Q. This has been a jolly prosecution? A. We certainly, in going to Westminster, had a glass of ale and a cigar—the doctor and I went there seven times—I have a smelling-bottle and a brooch, beside what is in this indictment—when I went to the mothar's house, I saw a woman in the room under where she lives—we left word that her son was ill—Dr. Whittell said, he was afraid he should be obliged to send him to the hospital—we waited in the street till she came home—she said she thought there was no harm in receiving a little wine from a gin-shop.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-603
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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603. HENRY DADY was again indicted for stealing, on the 20th of September, 1 smelling-bottle, value 2s., the goods of Mary Ann Coggins;

and ANN DADY was, indicted for receiving the same, well knowing it to have been stolen.

MARY ANN COGGINS . In the month, of September last, I lived as barmaid to Mrs. Goddard. I lost a smelling-bottle—the last time I saw it, it was on a shelf in the bar—I do not know when it was.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. What was in it? A. Salts; one of the bar-maids complained of a head-ache, and I took it out for her—I left the service in October—the officer brought me this smelling-bottle afterwards, and said I must, attend—I know Mrs. Goddard had a bad leg.

MARY SHEPPARD . I found this smelling-bottle in the female prisoner's drawer, on the 16th of January.

HENRY RAWES WHITTELL . I was present when the bottle was found.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you been bound over as a witness in the case, to tell what the last witness has said? A. I do not know what I was bound over for; the magistrate threw out a hint that I need not attend but when he heard the case, he thought I ought—I paid for the cigars and ale which I and the officer had—I do not wear the garb of the Society of Friends, but I belong to their sect—lam entered on the books of the Peel meeting, and attend there; when we leave one district, we are forced to have our names entered on another—I only know the fact of this smelling-bottle being found—I have a guinea a day when I give medical evidence, but I shall not have that in this case—I believe I was here last Sessions in a case of manslaughter—I believe I was here the Sessions before last—I am surgeon to the parish and to the police, which throws me into connexion with a great many cases.

(Property produced and sworn to.)


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-604
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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604. HENRY DADY was again indicted for stealing on the 16th of January, 4 pieces of the inside of the works of a bottle-jack, value 5s.; and 1 key, value 6d.; the goods of Rosana Goddard, his mistress; and 1 brooch, value 2s. 6d., the goods of Anna Halls.

ROSANA GODDARD . I am a widow. The prisoner lived with me—I had missed the key of my wine cellar—I had not missed these articles till they were found in the box.

ANNA HALLS . I lived servant with Mrs. Goddard. I lost this brooch from the kitchen table, on the 6th of January—there was no one but the prisoner in the kitchen when I put it there.

MARY SHEPPARD . I only know that I found the brooch in the box—there are five or six persons live in the house.

Cross-examined. Q. Was not the box accessible to every one that went into the room? A. Yes.


2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-605
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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605. GREGORY LEONARD was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of January, 5 printed books, value 12s., the goods of Christopher Mudie and another.

HENRY JAMES WASSON . I picked up these five books at my father's door—I do not know who dropped them.

JAMES WALSH (police-serjeant C 4.) I received the prisoner at the station-house, and these two books were brought in—I found these three others in the prisoner's hat.

CHRISTOPHER MUDIE . I keep a bookseller's shop in Princes'-street,

Westminster—I have one partner—these five books are our property—three of them were in the prisoner's hat—I know nothing of him.

Prisoner's Defence. I bought the three books in the street—I know nothing of the others.

GUILTY . Aged 47.— Confined Six Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-606
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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606. BRIDGET SHEA was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of January, 1 coat, value 30s.; 1 spoon, value 2s.; 172 playing cards, value 1s.; the goods of Susannah Cooper; and 1 box, value 6d.; 1 scent-bottle and case, value 6d.; 1 sixpence, 4 pence, and 2 half-pence; the goods and monies of Ann Pryer.

SUSANNAH COOPER . I am a widow, and live in Crawford-street, Portman-square. Ann Pryer is my servant. The prisoner was in my service—I missed some property, and took no notice of it; but on the morning of the 30th of January, my servant was alarmed, in the morning, by finding the kitchen door locked inside, and she could not get in—she came to my bed-room, and told me—I was fearful of going into the kitchen, and I sent the servant for a person; and during that time the person escaped—my property has been found.

ALEXANDER RUSSELL (police-constable D 127.) The prosecutrix's servant spoke to me on the 30th of January—I went in search of the prisoner, and found her in a house near Dorset-square, concealed under a bed—I found this spoon in her possession—the other property my brother officer found—I searched her box afterwards, and found a pair of boots, a silk handkerchief, and some lace.

Prisoner. You said, "Give me a sovereign, and I will let you go free"—I said I had no sovereign, and you called me a d—d Irish b—h. Witness. No such thing.

GEORGE MARRIOTT (police-sergeant D 5.) I produce these playing cards, which I found in the prisoner's box; also this scent-bottle, and this paper box.

ANN PRYER . I was servant to the prosecutrix while the prisoner was ill—this scent-bottle and little box are mine.

HENRY MATTHEW BAYFIELD . I am a pawnbroker. I produce a table-spoon, and two dessert-forks, pawned by Mary M'Carthy, and a coat, for 15s.

MRS. COOPER. These cards are mine. They were taken from a secretary-drawer in my book-case—this tea-spoon is mine.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years.

There was another indictment against the prisoner.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-607
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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607. THOMAS WILLIAMS was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of January, 1 handkerchief, value 2s., the goods of John Crofts, from his person.

JOHN CROFTS . I am an attorney, and live in Chancery-lane. On Sunday evening, the 25th of January, at half-past six o'clock, I was in Chancery-lane—I felt a pull behind me—I looked round—the prisoner passed me, and got a few yards before me—I walked up to him, and told him I considered he had got my handkerchief—he gave it me—I collared him, and gave him to the officer.

WILLIAM FIELD . I am a policeman. I received the prisoner, and have the handkerchief.

Prisoner. I saw the handkerchief on the ground, and picked it up—when the gentleman came to me I gave it to him.

JOHN CROFT . This is my handkerchief. I had had it safe five minutes before I felt the tug at my pocket.

GUILTY . Aged 23.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Six Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-608
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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608. GEORGE COOPER was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of December, 3 shillings, the monies of James Jordan, his master.

JAMES JORDAN . I am a carman, and live in Hart-street, Grosvenor-square. The prisoner was in my service on the 29th December—I sent him to the corn-chandler's to get me a truss of hay—I gave him 3s. to pay for it, and he was to take it to the stable, to feed the horse—I asked him the next day, whether he had bought the hay—he said he had—I told him he must go with me to the corn-chandler's, for I did not think he had bought it, as there was none left—he went with me as far as the corner of North Audley-street, when he slipped through a public-house, and I did not see him again till he was taken, about a fortnight afterwards, I think.

WILLIAM LITTLE, JUN . I am a corn-chandler. On the 29th of December, the prisoner ordered the truss of hay, and I sent it—he did not pay for it.

WILLIAM LITTLE, SEN . The prisoner did not pay me for the hay.

Prisoner. I am guilty.

GUILTY . Aged 32.— Confined Three Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-609
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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609. WILLIAM STARR was indicted for stealing, on the 2nd of February, 1 coat, value 10s., the goods of John Thomas Hearn.

JOHN THOMAS HEARN . I am a cab-driver. On the 2nd of February my cab was going along Oxford-Street, and I was inside—my coat was on the dickey—I saw the coat move—I looked out, and saw the prisoner, pull the coat off behind, and run away with it—I jumped out, and followed him through Hanway-street—I lost sight of him there—I was speaking to the policeman, and the prisoner came running along with it.

JAMES RIDDENTON (police-constable E 62.) I saw the prisoner, and took him with the coat.

GUILTY .* Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-610
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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610. JOHN JAMES was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of January, 9 ounces of cigars, value 16s., the goods of Edwin Henry Job.

MARY ANN JOB . I am the wife of Edwin Henry Job—we keep a cigar shop in St. John-street-road. On the 31st of January, between seven and eight o'clock, I was sitting in the room—I saw the prisoner reach his hand across, and take the cigars from the window—the window was shut, but he came in, and took them—we keep a boy to watch the window.

EDWIN HENEY JOB . I pursued the prisoner from the door—I never lost sight of him—he ran up Charles-street, across Northampton-square, and down Smith-street—he threw down the bundle of cigars, and a person here took them up.

THOMAS TOWNSEND . I saw the prisoner run past my shop, and he had the bundle of cigars in his hand—I picked them up, about two hundred yards from my shop.

WILLIAM HOUSE . I am an officer. I received the prisoner in charge.

GUILTY . Aged 19.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor and Jury.

Confined Three Months.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-611
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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611. JOSEPH DENNY and MARY DENNY were indicted for stealing, on the 20th of January, 1 hammer, value 1s. 6d.; and two trowels, value 1s.; the goods of Cornelius Doyle; three trowels, value 2s., the goods of Samuel Williams; and 1 trowel, value 2s., the goods of John Heslop.

CORNELIUS DOYLE . I am a plasterer. I lost my tools from New-street, Covent-garden, where I was at work in an unfinished house—I left them there at half-past five o'clock in the evening—the house was boarded and nailed up—the next morning it was unnailed.

SAMUEL WILLIAMS . I was at work there, as a plasterer—I left my tools, and lost them.

JOHN HESLOP . I left a good many tools at the same place—I lost them—I have only found one.

JOHN MANNING . I am a general dealer in curiosities, and glass, and clothes, and any thing that is useful—these tools were all found in my possession—the female prisoner came to my house on the 26th of January, and brought them—she said they belonged to her husband, and asked me to give her a trifle for them, and her husband would give me a trifle more in the morning, as she wanted to make some pea-soup for his supper—I had seen her and her husband before—I have seen him go past the door—she had sold me an apron before—my shop is No. 23, Great St. Andrew-street, Seven Dials—she asked me 1s. 6d. for these tools, and I gave it her—I knew it was not the value of them, but she said her husband would give me a trifle more in the morning—she said he would give me 20d., or 2s.—I am not a pawnbroker—I did not buy them, nor take them in pawn—I expected her husband to come the next morning—I did not know where he lived.

Joseph Denny. He sold one of the tools by eight o'clock in the morning. Witness. The woman came back, as she had forgotten her key, and then she said, "My husband will not come for the tools."

EDWARD HENRY BLAY . I am landlord of the White Swan, Great St. Andrew-street, Seven Dials. On the 26th of January the male prisoner offered me some tools, I believe—there was something in a basket to take care of—I said I made it an invariable rule to take nothing over the bar—he then left the house.

Joseph Denny. Q. Did I not ask you to lend me 2s. to get some tools? A. I do not remember it—I have known him a great many years—if he had asked me, I should have lent it him.

THOMAS SOPER (police-constable.)I apprehended the female prisoner about seven o'clock in the evening of the 27th of January—I asked her if she had sold any tools—she said, "Yes, for 1s., 6d.," and she had them of Charley, the porter—I took the man the same evening in his own house—he said he got the tools from Mr. Blay's at the White Swan; that two men came in there with some bricklayers' and plasterers' tools, and asked him to buy them; that he had not got the money, and he asked Mr. Blay to lend him 2s., which he refused; that he then gave back the basket to Charley and the other man, named Hardy, and what became of them afterwards he did not know—these are the tools—there were two baskets of carpenters' tools, and some masons' tools, which we can get no account of.


OLD COURT.—Saturday, February 7th, 1835.

Second Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-612
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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612. WILLIAM COTTON was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of February, 3 yards of carpet, value 3s.; 1 set of bed-furniture, value 12s.; the goods of Alexander Innes Burgess and another; and that he had before been convicted of felony.

SAMUEL BAKER . I work in the East India Warehouse. On the afternoon of the 3rd of February, about half-past three o'clock, as I passed the shop of Mr. Burgess, in Shoreditch, I saw the prisoner haul down this furniture and piece of carpet, he wrapped it up under his arm, and run up a passage with it—I went in, and informed the people of it—I lost sight of him for about half a minute, and he was secured.

Prisoner. You said, at the office, the articles hung at the prosecutor's door-post. Witness. Yes: the prosecutor's house is at the corner of a court which is not a thoroughfare—they were at the side of the door-post.

WILLIAM LUFF . I am shopman to Alexander Innes Burgess and Richard Attenborough, pawnbrokers. I was at home when information was given of the property being taken—I ran out, and went up the court at the side entrance, where people come to the boxes—I found the prisoner with the articles in question, which he had folded in a striped shirt—I took them from him, and found they were the very things I had hung up that morning—these are the articles—there is a court goes between our house and the next.

Prisoner. Q. Did not I tell you they came down into my hand, and I was going to bring them into the boxes? A. Yes, you did say so; but you should have come in at the front door, where they hung—he went up the court into the boxes.

HENRY HUDDY . I am a policeman. I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction, which I procured at Mr. Clark's office—(read)—I was a witness on the trial, and am certain he is the person who was convicted in January, 1832, by the name of William Law.

Prisoner's Defence. I know no more about being tried before than a man I never saw.

GUILTY . Aged 60.— Transported for Seven Years.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-613
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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613. GEORGE TURNER was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of February, 1 handkerchief, value 3s., the goods of John Charles Longmore, from his person.

JOHN CHARLES LONGMORE . I am a medical student On the 3rd of February, about half-past five o'clock in the evening, I was in Osborn-street, Whitechapel. I felt something at my pocket, and at the same time the prisoner brushed by me with his hands rather before him—I felt and missed my handkerchief—I pursued him—he began to run, and threw the handkerchief down—I immediately secured him.

(Property produced and sworn to.)

Prisoner's Defence. I was coming down Brick-lane—in Church-street the gentleman collared me, and said I had got his handkerchief—I never saw him or the handkerchief at all.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Three Months.

Before Mr. Justice Vaughan.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-614
VerdictNot Guilty > unknown

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614. FRANCIS METCALF was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of December, one order for the payment of 112l. 10s., the property of Charles John Brooks and another, his masters, the said sum payable on the said order being due and unsatisfied to the said Charles John Brooks and another, the proprietors thereof, against the Statute.—2nd COUNT. For feloniously embezzling and stealing it.

MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

CHARLES JOHN BROOKS . I have a partner in my business in Oxford-street, named Griffiths Thomas—I have another business in Duke-street, Manchester-square, of my own—Thomas and I are linen-drapers and haberdashers—my business in Duke-street is a linen-draper's—the prisoner was in the occasional employ of our firm as clerk and book-keeper—he came about twice a week, in the evening, to keep our accounts—he has been much better off—he was in a very respectable business in Friday-street, and married my first cousin—I believe he has four children—he has through misfortunes been reduced in circumstances—we dealt with Messrs. Lainson and Co., Bread-street, wholesale Manchester-warehousemen, for goods—we owed them 118l.—it is our custom to have a discount off our accounts—I gave the prisoner this cheque (looking at it) for 112l. 10s. on the 30th of October, and I took the precaution to cross the name of Jones, Lloyd, and Co, on the cheque in large letters—I told him to pay it to Messrs. Lainson and Co.——the names of Jones, Lloyd, and Co. on the cheque are now struck through, and "Bank of England" written over it—that was not on the cheque when I gave it to him—I knew nothing of that being written on it till the cheque was returned from my bankers, which was about the beginning of January, directly after the bankers balanced—on the 17th of January, I called on the prisoner—it was after I had received the cheque from the bankers—I had drawn his attention to those words being struck out a week or ten days before that, when we were going over the cheques which had been returned, at my house—the cheque was then before me—I said it appeared strange that "Jones, Lloyd, and Co." was marked out, and "Bank of England" was written across it—he said he dare say Lainson and Co. had an account with, or might have bought money in the Bank of England—I said, "This cheque appears very strange not to have come into our banker's until the 23rd of December," which was marked on it, when I had given it to him on the 30th of Octobers—he said Lainson and Co. were rich people, and he dare say it was locked up in their iron chest, they not having occasion for it—I believe my partner called on Lainson and Co.—I had not the least knowledge that the cheque had not reached Messrs. Lainson's before I called on the prisoner on the 17th of January, and asked him to pay me for some flannel, which was a private transaction between him and myself—he said he was very sorry, he had certainly sold them and received the money, but had no money to give me, and said he had made use of the money—the amount was between 70l. and 80l.—he appeared to be very much agitated, and said he was very sorry, he had been guilty of great ingratitude towards me, and he said he supposed I was aware of other circumstances—I said I certainly was aware I had given him a cheque of 20l. for Johnson and Bulmer—he said he had not the money to pay me for the flannels, but he had a bill in his pocket for 20l. odd, and he should have another at the beginning of the week, and I was welcome to that—he put it on the table—a little time after I said, "You had better put your name on the bill before I take it"—I told him it was better for him to tell me the amount at once—to confess what he had taken at once—he said he would write the particulars down—he took a pen in his hand and then said, "I am very nervous, indeed"—he said his hand

shook so much he would be obliged to me to write it down—he called over several names—I have a list in my pocket, which I took down from his dictation—this is it—that was the first time I learnt that this cheque had not been applied to its proper purpose—here is the name of "Lainson, 112l. 10s." on the list—that is one of the sums he mentioned having received and not paid.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. You deal in a variety of articles? A. Principally linen-drapery—I never dealt in French watches in Oxford-street—Brooks and Thomas keep blonde lace—my father and I have been in business at least thirty years—the prisoner has been in the Manchester line—I am not aware that he lost 10,000l. by the failure of another house—I was too young at that time to learn the particulars—I have heard he lost enough to ruin him—I have given him many cheques before this—we have employed him above two years.

Q. From what passed between you, do not you believe he had reason to suppose that, for a time, he might have appropriated the cheque to his own purpose, and afterwards make it good to you? A. No, I had not the least idea he could have contemplated that—he has never appropriated cheques, and afterwards repaid them, with my permission—I remember, last October, giving him a cheque fox 70l., in favour of Morley, of Gutter-lane—I did not learn afterwards, from himself or Morley, that he had appropriated that cheque to his own purpose—I was not aware of it at all, up to this moment—I never had any conversation with him afterwards about it—Morley sent up to me for the account, after I had given him the cheque—I sent a young man to call on the prisoner and know why he had not paid that cheque, and he said he would go directly and pay it—I believe that was a transaction of my own—I have no entry of my own transactions in this book—I believe about two days elapsed between my giving him that cheque, and finding it was not paid—I expected he would pay it at his convenience, in a day or two—I was not particular to a day—to the best of my belief, it was less than a week—I swear, to the best of my belief, it was not more than a week—I will not positively swear it was not three weeks—when I brought it to his mind, he did not say, "I will go and make it good—I will go and pay it directly"—I have no book here in which that cheque was entered—this did not happen, in any other instance, except Morley's—the next transaction which occurred, was on the 4th of January, this year; a bill from Lucock and Co., of Leeds, was presented at Brooks and Co's. for payment—it was drawn by Lucock and Co. on Brooks and Thomas—it became due on the 4th of January, and was presented to Brooks and Thomas—the amount might be 76l. 14s.—it had been presented before for acceptance—it was presented for payment, although we had not accepted it—we had refused acceptance because it was not correct.

Q. Did you not, in September, 1834, give the prisoner a cheque to pay into Glynn's, on account of Lucock, of Leeds? A. I have it down in my banking-book as the 25th of November—it was 76l. 18s.—I am sure it was in November—Mr. Hardy, the agent of Lucock, applied to me in January respecting it, and said he was sure the cheque had never been paid—in consequence of that, I went to the prisoner's the first thing on Monday morning, but he was out, and when I saw him, he said he had just been down to Mr. Hardy to take the money—I spoke to him about his not paying the cheque in November, as he ought to have done, and he told me it was the fault of his clerk—he said his clerk had misunderstood him, that he told him to go and pay it into the bankers', instead of which, he

had gone to the bankers, received the money, and he had kept it ever since, locked up in his desk, and he was very sorry the mistake had occurred—I found he had paid the money—I have given the copy of a letter which I have had notice to produce, to Mr. Hobler's clerk.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Have you got the original letter? A. I have not—I do not know what has become of it.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. You got a letter from Forrester, which was found on the prisoner? A. Yes, it was a letter I had written to the prisoner—I am almost certain I destroyed it—I have looked every where for it, and cannot find it—I do not know whether I destroyed it directly, or what has become of it—I did not copy it—I thought it was of no consequence to any one—I might have destroyed it the very day Forrester delivered it to me—he gave it me just before the examination on the 21st of January—(the notice to produce it was dated the 4th of February)—I afterwards, from memory, wrote out what I thought it was—I cannot say they were the exact words, but I wrote the purport of the letter as near as I can possibly recollect. He gave me the £20 bill, and said he did not think it was worth 6d., and I did not think it was—he agreed to give me another bill, but no list of the debts—I cannot say whether the bill was 25l. or 35l.—I did not mention the amount of the bill in the letter—I will swear I did not mention any sum—he said he should have another bill on the Monday or Tuesday, and would give me that—I rather think now it was 45l., but I cannot say whether it was 25l., 35l., or 45l.

Q. Do you swear there was no bill referred to in the letter? A. No, I said there was no amount mentioned in the letter—when I took the letter from Forrester I read it over, and noticed particularly that there was nothing of any consequence in it—I did not apply to him for the letter—we were looking over the prisoner's duplicates and things, and Forrester said, "Here is a letter of your writing"—I took it and read it—I am certain that is a copy of it, as near as possible, word for word—he gave me the 20l. bill on Saturday, the 17th of January, the same day he gave me the list I have handed in, in which list this very cheque is included—I was there from ten till one o'clock—I think I made out the list about twelve o'clock—he laid the 20l. bill on the table—and I took it up and put it into my pocket after I had made out the list, as I was going away—he had at that time apprised me that he had misappropriated this cheque—I took the 20l. bill because he had not any money to offer me for the flannel—he was taken up on Tuesday, the 20th of January.

Q. Had you given him any advice as a friend—on your oath? A. I had said something to him—he begged me to be merciful to him—I said I thought the best thing he could do was to go off to America, as my partner, if I was not willing to prosecute him, would do so, when he came to know it—he said, "No, I will rather stop and serve you"—I was not aware of the misappropriation at the time he offered me the 20l. bill—it was left on the table at my side—I considered it then my property—he had given me the statement before I took it off the desk.

COURT. Q. You are asked whether you had or not taken the bill after the list was made out? A. I took it off the table afterwards—I wrote the letter on Monday, the 19th, which was after I had taken the 20l. bill.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Perhaps you will repeat the letter now? A. I said, "Will you have the goodness to send me a statement of the particulars of the different names of the parties, and the separate amounts for which I gave you a cheque of sundries, 13l. 5s.?" I think—and at the bottom I said, "If you have the bill you named, please to send it by the bearer"—

that does not refer to the bill I named, but to the bill which was to be either 25l., 35l., or 45l.—this was after I was aware of the misappropriation he had made—I told my partner of this on Monday evening, the 19th of January.

Q. Had he mentioned the amount of the bill? A. Yes, he had—he named either 25l., 35l., or 45l., about one or other sum—I think he said I should have a bill for about 45l., but I did not pay much attention to it, expecting it would be, like the first, not worth 6d.

Q. But you desired it to be sent to you by bearer? A. It came into my mind just as I was writing—I thought it might be worth something.

COURT. Q. Had you made up your mind to prosecute him at the time? A. I had not.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Are you an unwilling prosecutor? A. I left it entirely in the hands of my partner—if I am to state whether I am or not, I certainly would rather not prosecute—my partner insists on the prosecution being carried on.

Q. Had your conversation with the prisoner, on the subject of the flannel, reference to that transaction, or had it any thing to do with the misappropriation of the money of Brooks and Thomas? A. Nothing—it was quite a separate and distinct matter—I was not in a condition to forego a prosecution without the consent of my partner—I never allowed the prisoner to misapply cheques.

Q. This letter speaks of 13l. 5s., is that the amount of different items of that sum furnished to you in his handwriting? A. Yes; that was the answer he sent in the letter, and that was all I received back—these items were sums belonging to Brooks and Thomas—that was for many small sums he had made payments of for Brooks and Thomas—I was never aware that he had misapplied cheques I had given him for any specific purpose, on account of Brooks and Thomas, before the discovery of the transaction—I never permitted him, directly or indirectly, to do so—I had done all I could to serve him up to the time in question—he acknowledged his sense of his ingratitude towards me when he confessed his guilt—I have in my bankers' book an account to show when this cheque came to them—it is written on this cheque, "23rd of December"—I never heard a word about its misappropriation between the 30th of October and the 23rd of December—I should not have suffered him to retain it if I had known it.

Q. Was the sum of 20l., for which he gave you a bill, at all applicable to any thing but the flannel which you speak of? A. Certainly not—I did not receive it towards the turns he had misapplied, but on my own private account for the flannel; and the bill he promised to send was to be in payment of the flannel—I have neve r accepted any sum as security for any of the items on this paper, among which is the 112l. 10s.—I gave that cheque to him to pay Lainson and Co., and for no other purpose—I did not direct him to receive the cheque, but to carry it to them, to pay them.

CHARLES FAIRCLOTH . I am an accountant, and live in Cheapside. I have known the prisoner fifteen or sixteen years—he has been well off in the world, and failed through misfortunes—on the 22nd of December he called on me—I had some money on my table at the time, and was making up some accounts—he asked me if I would give him the money for a cheque—I asked what cheque it was—he said, "Brooks and Thomas"—I said I had no objection—he named the amount, 112l. 10s.—I immediately threw him down the money, and he gave me the cheque—this is it—it is dated the 30th of October—I did not make any inquiry about its being dated so far back—I was going out to pay some money to Mr.

Green, the official assignee, and I put the cheque on other money which I had given him that from, and took it Immediately to Mr. Green—I did not notice the date—I did not read the cheque, nor observe the name across it, or the name in the body of it, "Lainson and Co."—I took it to Mr. Green's, and left it there with other money—it was brought back to me by Mrs. Green's clerk, who called my attention to the banker's name across it in about an hour—I drew my pen through the name directly, and wrote over it, "Bank of England," as they wanted to pay it through the Bank—to the best of my belief, I gave the prisoner £100, and a £10 note, and 2l. 10s. in gold for the cheque—I am quite sure I paid him in Bank-notes and gold.

Cross-examined. Q. What is the date of the cheque? A. The 30th of October—he brought it to me on the 22nd of December—at that time "Jones, Lloyd, and Co." was written across it—the prisoner had no knowledge of my striking out Jones's name—I did it, knowing it was the custom of bankers to pay through any banker whose name might be on it—I did it without the prisoner's knowledge, and wrote, "Bank of England," without his knowledge.

DANIEL ROSS . I am clerk to Mr. Green, the official assignee. I received this cheque from Mr. Faircloth—it was afterwards paid into the Bank of England from our office—I cannot say who went with it.

WILLIAM TYSON . I am clerk to Sir Claude Scott and Co. (looking at the cheque)I paid the amount of this to the Bank of England on the 23rd of December, 1834, and debited the account of Brooks and Thomas with it.

GRIFFITH THOMAS . I am in partnership with Mr. Brooks. About Christmas last I asked the prisoner for an account of the debts we owed in the City—he afterwards supplied me with this list—among others is the name of "Lainson and Co. 3l. 3s."—I think that was about the 18th of December—he gave me the accounts, I believe, the same day as I asked for it—there was at that time 3l. 3s. due to Lainson and Co., besides the 112l. 10s. supposed to have been paid—I thought at the time we owed them no more—I did not know the 112l. 10s. was not paid.

JURY. Q. Are you certain the list was furnished to you on the 18th of December? A. To the best of my knowledge it was—I will not swear it.

MR. CLARKSON. A. Whenever you received that list from him; had you any knowledge that he had had any communication with Mr. Brooks respecting any deficiency? A. No, I knew nothing about it.

HENRY HOOTON . I am cashier to Messrs. Lainson and Co., of Bread-street, Manchester-warehousemen. In October last, we had an account against Brooks for 112l. 10s., after deducting discount—that sum was not paid to me, nor to my knowledge—I do not know what, sum was due to us from Brooks and Thomas—this sum of 112l. 10s. has never been paid, to my knowledge—it was never passed into the books—it still remains unpaid on the books of the house.

Prisoner's Defence. I am so embarrassed, I scarcely know what to say; but my intentions were never to appropriate the money to my own use; and I should have repaid it, as I have done other sums; such as Lucock's and Morley's, which have been mentioned.

(Thomas Mildred, Manchester-warehouseman, Lad-lane; George Davis, auctioneer, Coleman-street; William Southwood, linen-draper, Parliament-street; and William Bell, solicitor, Bow Church-yard, deposed to the prisoner's good character.)


Before Mr. Justice Patteson.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-615
VerdictSpecial Verdict > unknown

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615. FRANCIS METCALF was again indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of September, 1 order for the payment of, and value 45l. 2s., the property of Charles John Brooks and another, his masters; the said sum being due and unpaid to the said Charles John Brooks and another, the proprietors thereof, against the Statute.—2nd COUNT. Stating it to be the property of Andrew Caldecott and others.

MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

CHARLES JOHN BROOKS . On the 3rd of September, I gave the prisoner this cheque for 45l. 2s.—I had an account with Caldecott and Co.—it was to pay them for goods—I omitted to write the banker's name across the cheque—I gave him instructions to pay it to Messrs. Caldecott—he left me for the purpose of doing so, and took the cheque—I found, on the 17th of January, that it had not been paid—that was at the conversation I have stated—the cheque was returned to me from my banker's when we sent for the book, which we generally do on Saturday—I cannot say the precise day.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you give him the cheque for the purpose of paying it immediately to Messrs. Caldecott? A. I gave it to him to pay directly, of course; as soon as he possibly could—I did not wish him to keep it in his pocket—I gave it to him in the evening; he was to pay it the next day—I think I gave it to him on the 3rd of September, as it is dated the 3rd of September—I generally gave him cheques in the evening—I saw the cheque again when it was returned from the banker's—I do not know when—he carried some of our cheques away to his own house—I do not know when I saw it again; whether it was a week, or a month, or a day—the prisoner, was employed as clerk occasionally—he was not in our regular employ—he was employed at his leisure hours, to come two or three times a week, to keep our books; as a kind of book-keeper—he was in Mr. Prior's service at first—when I gave him this cheque, he was trying to do business on his own account—I occasionally employed him to get my cheques discounted—I did it with a view to serve him—I employed him so occasionally while he was in Prior's service.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did you pay him for his services? A. Yes; I employed him as occasional book-keeper and clerk during his leisure hours—I employed him as such to pay this cheque to Caldecott—I cannot exactly say whether I gave it to him in the evening or morning—I did not authorize him to keep it, or convert it to any other purpose—he was to pay it to Caldecott.

WILLIAM TYSON . I am clerk to Sir Claude Scott and Co., bankers. I paid this cheque on account of Brooks and Thomas on the 3rd of September—I do not know who to.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you pay it yourself? A. I did—I find by my book I paid it on the 3rd of September—I have not the book here, but a transcript of it—the entry was made in the book by myself—I made this memorandum from the book—I cannot tell whether it was morning or afternoon—I think the book would enable me to say, by the number of items preceding it—it might have been paid at that moment without the book, and the entry made afterwards.

GEORGE EDLIN . I am cashier to Caldecott and Co., of Cheapside. I did not receive a cheque for 45l. 2s. from Brooks and Thomas on the 3rd of

September—I have not received it from the prisoner's hand—the amount was paid on the 11th of December, in a cheque of 85l.—I received it myself.

CHARLES JOHN BROOKS re-examined. On the 17th of January I called on the prisoner, and, after some conversation, he said he supposed I was aware of some other things—he dictated to me a number of sums, and among those one for 45l. 2s. not paid to Caldecott—we paid them that sum in a cheque of 85l. on the 10th of December—this cheque (looking at it) is dated 10th December, and includes the 45l. 2s.—I did not know that the prisoner had not paid that sum till he told me, on the 17th of January—the prisoner omitted to post it in the book, which it was his duty to do—he had taken down in the book all the cheques I gave him, but omitted to take down this cheque—it did not occur to me when I drew the cheque for £85, that I had given the cheque of 45l. 2s.

Cross-examined. Q. You see you have made a mistake yourself, for it did not occur to you that you had given him the cheque before? A. No; because he had not placed it in the ledger—I gave him a great many cheques at various times—I have given him hundreds of cheques in a year. (The cheque was here put in and read.)

GUILTY . Aged 46.—Believing, at the time he received the cheque, that he intended to apply it to his own use.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor and Jury, on account of his former character. This case is reserved for the consideration of the Fifteen Judges.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-616
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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616. HENRY FOSTER was indicted for embezzlement—upon which no evidence was offered.


Before Mr. Justice Patteson.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-617
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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617. JOSEPH ADY was indicted for a misdemeanor.

MESSRS. CLARKSON and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.

REV. FRANCIS TEBBUTT . I am a clergyman of the Church of England, and live at Welton, in Northampton. I formerly lived at Lower Clapton—I have a brother who lives in Austin-friars—I came to town in the month of July last year, and went to my brother's house in Austin-friars—my brother gave me this letter on my arrival—on receiving it, I called on Mr. Hammond—he accompanied me to the Circus, in the Minories—I rang at the bell, and a female servant opened the door—I inquired if James Laurie lived there—the defendant opened a door on the right hand of the hall, and made his appearance—I believe that was before the servant answered my question—I said, "I have received a letter from James Laurie, dated No. 11, Circus, Minories; does that person reside here?"—he said, "Walk in, I can manage that business"—we went into the room on the right hand side out of which he came—Mr. Hammond accompanied me—I gave the letter to Mr. Hammond in the room—I think Mr. Hammond put the letter into Ady's hand—his attention was directed to it—I asked him if James Laurie lived there—he said yes, he did—I said, "Is he at home?"—he said, "No, he is not at home, but I can answer that letter"—I then said, "Laurie is a singular name—I knew, formerly, a Mr. Laurie, when I was at the Cambridge University, is your partner related to any of that family?"—he had said Laurie was his partner—I think that was when we first went into the house—we had the letter exposed; when he said he could answer that letter—I said, "I knew Mr. Laurie, of Cambridge, who was a nephew of the late Lord Mayor," and said, "Is your partner at all related to

that family?"—he said, "He is his own brother—we have been in partnership some time, did you not know that?" Q. Did you ask who he meant by his own brother? A. Sir Peter Laurie—I said, "No, I do not reside in London, I reside in Northamptonshire"—he said, "Oh that is the reason: every body in London knows it; we have been in partnership for some time," or "for six months"—I cannot exactly say which he said—I asked him when James Laurie would be in—he said he could not tell, he was gone out, but he could answer the letter, and he then went behind the counter to his books—I said, "Is it in your power, or James Laurie's power, to tell me of 250l. mentioned in this letter; which I can receive on payment of a sovereign?"—he said, "It is"—Mr. Hammond then began a conversation with him, and asked him whether he was sure the James Laurie mentioned in that letter, was the own brother of Sir Peter Laurie, the late Lord Mayor—he said, "Yes, he is; have not you teen any of our circulars," or "papers?"—I forget which—he then went to the corner of the room, took some papers, and gave one to Mr. Hammond, and one to myself—Mr. Hammond again asked whether he was sure he could be informed of 250l. which Mr. Tebbutt could receive if the sovereign was paid, and whether if the money was not forthcoming, he would return the sovereign—whether he would give an acknowledgment to that effect—he said he would, and gave an acknowledgment—this is the receipt he gave me—I had previously given Mr. Hammond a sovereign—Mr. Hammond handed it over the counter to Ady—Mr. Hammond had before that asked him particularly whether, in the absence of James Laurie, his partner, he was authorized to receive money on his own account?—he said, "I am."

Q. What induced you to permit Mr. Hammond in your presence to pay that sovereign to the defendant? A. The belief that I should receive the information contained in the letter, and that James Laurie was the person he represented—I do not think I should have given the sovereign if he had not represented James Laurie to be his partner, and the brother of Sir Peter Laurie—upon payment of the sovereign this paper was given me as the information—I read it, and when I saw the name of my brother, who was dead, and Mr. Lloyd, I knew it immediately referred to 100l. stock my father had presented to one of Mr. Lloyd's children—it never stood in my name, but in my brother's name, Thomas Tebbutt and John Lloyd—it related to 100l. stock which my father gave Lloyd's child, which was to remain in the funds until he attained his majority—I said to him, "This money has been had out of the funds, to the best of my belief, many years ago, and I have no interest in it whatever, therefore I will thank you to return my money"—he said, "Are you not a better lawyer than that?"—I remonstrated with him for detaining my money, but could not get it back—I told him repeatedly it did not at all concern me—he said he had only my word for that. The documents produced were here read as follows:—

"To S. Tebbutt, Esq., April 28, 1834—The undersigned is able to inform you of something to your advantage, value 250l., on payment to 20s., by post, or otherwise, for his trouble. Yours respectfully, &c, James Laurie, accountant, 11, Circus, Minories. No letters received, unless post-paid."

"Received, 10th of July, 1834, of Mr. F. Tebbutt, 1l. for information annexed, which fee I promise to return in case no benefit result—£1. Joseph Ady, No. 11, Circus, Minories, London, thirty-four years resident in the same parish. Censure is the tax a man pays to the public for being eminent.

Mr. Tebbutt was a creditor of De Witt, an insolvent. Apply to A. Hayward, Welch Charity, Gray's-inn-road, Consols, page 137; John Lloyd, Leather-lane, Thomas Tebbutt, and Charles Thomas Lloyd, 1813—dividend ever since, £250. On the back of this paper was inserted, "It is the undoubted right of every British subject to employ his capital and exertions in any manner he thinks proper, not contrary to the laws of his country—Judge Vaughan."

MR. TEBBUTT. I was never a creditor of De Witt, an insolvent.

Cross-examined by MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. How long had you received the letter before you went to the defendant? A. Some few weeks—I had been in London perhaps a week at that time—I was engaged very particularly—I was never in town exceeding a week, and I believe that was only once—I might have been in town twice for a week—Mr. Hammond was unknown to me until a day or two before he went with me—I went to Mr. Hammond's to call for my rent—I did not produce this letter to him on the first occasion—perhaps it might be the second time—I saw him twice in the course of the week—I produced it to him the same day as I went to the Minories—I asked his opinion—he said he would recommend me to go—that Laurie was a very respectable name, and he had no doubt there was something in it—he did not tell me that he knew any of the family of the Lauries—I gave him a sovereign to give to the man as we walked along the street—I told him I did not like to take the leading part in it—it was not in my way at all—I did not understand the nature of it—I did not like to take the leading part in going for such a purpose—going to pay a sovereign to receive information—that was all that passed in my mind at that time.

Q. On your oath, was it not for the purpose of paying a sovereign in the presence of a witness, that you might give evidence of it hereafter, that you took Mr. Hammond with you? A. It was not—I had no such thought or intention—I went and paid it under the idea I should receive information and benefit—I did not abuse Mr. Ady at all—I believe Mr. Hammond did—I do not know whether Ady was obliged to send for a policeman—I do not know whether he sent, or the people on his premises—I did not see him send, nor hear him—he did send, I believe—he talked of it—Ady took Mr. Hammond by the collar—Mr. Hammond said he never allowed any man to take him by the collar, and if he did not loose him he would strike him, or something.

Q. Did he say he would hit his nose flat? A. I cannot say the words he used—I do not remember the word "nose"—I never heard, before I went to get the information referred to in the letter, that there had been money standing in the names of Lloyd and Tebbutt and others, which had afterwards been claimed and sold—I knew there was a property in the name of Charles Lloyd, in the hands of trustees—Thomas Tebbutt was one of the trustees—he is dead.

Q. Did not you know that it had been in the published list of unclaimed dividends for some years? A. I believe not, for I believe the youth wanted the money, and when he became of age it was sold out, but I am on very slight terms with my family, and know very little about it—I am brother to the attorney in Austin-friars—I did not confer with him about the letter—he gave it to me at the inn—I believe I did not see my brother during the whole week I was in town—I am not on terms with him.

Q. Did you ever see such a book as this, of unclaimed dividends and property in trust in the funds? A. No; these are the names of the trusees

of the property—(looking at the book)—the information was not that there had been money of that kind, but that there was—I should think the money was paid to my nephew about five or six years ago, but I have not seen him for the last ten years—I do not think I have seen him six times since he was born—I immediately demanded my money back from Ady, according to the terms the receipt was written—I went to the Lord Mayor the day after—I did not go to Gray's-inn-lane, or any where, to make inquiry—I made no inquiry of Hay ward, of Gray's-inn-lane.

Q. Now I ask you, very seriously, on your oath, did not Mr. Hammond and you together, or Mr. Hammond, with your knowledge, go there for the purpose of making evidence of this case? A. I did aot—Mr. Hammond did not tell me that No. 11, Circus, was Ady's house, or that we were going to see Ady—he said, "Ady lives in the Minories"—that was all he said—it was on the road—I believe he mentioned Ady's name, after I gave him the sovereign—I gave him the money in the street—I believe, on the road, Mr. Hammond said he had paid 1l. to Ady, add he mentioned, either at the house or just before we went there, that the information he got was not correct, and he got his money back—I did not know I was going there to see Ady—I had no idea of it—I do not remember whether Mr. Hammond told me it was Ady, when Ady presented himself—I cannot swear he did not—after we were in the house, Mr. Hammond and Ady had some conversation, and then I heard Ady's name—that was before the money was paid.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. You were asked whether the money had been paid out of the bank some time before the transaction; are you sure your nephew was of age before the 28th April, 1834? A. Certainly—I had nothing to do with the money when it was in the Bank—I did not know of such a person as De Witt—when I went to No. 11, Circus, I expected to see the person who had signed the letter—I know nothing of Ady.

----HAMMOND, ESQ. I am a ship-owner, and carry on business in Mincing-lane, and Commercial Sale-rooms. I am a magistrate of Kent, and have been foreman of the Grand Jury this Session—I think the 10th of July was the first or second time I had seen Mr. Tebbutt—he called on me on the 10th of July, and showed me this letter—I accompanied him to No. 11, Circus, Minories—when we got there, we knocked at the door, and asked if a person named James Laurie lived there—during the time we were asking the servant, the prisoner came up, and said, he dare say he could do that which we came about—we showed him this letter, and asked him if a person of the name of James Laurie lived there—he desired us to walk in—we walked in, and said we came in consequence of an application made to Mr. Tebbutt respecting some money which that letter alluded to—I then asked him who James Laurie was—he said, "James Laurie is my partner, and he is the brother of Sir Peter Laurie, the late Lord Mayor of London"—I said, "Are you authorized to receive the money by James Laurie?"—he said, "Yes"—upon that, Mr. Tebbutt desired me to pay him the sovereign—with that the money was paid him, and he accordingly set about giving us the information which the letter alluded to—something passed about Mr. Tebbutt living in the country—I believe that arose in consequence of the letter being directed to a wrong place—Mr. Tebbutt said he thought it was all right; that he knew Sir Peter Laurie's family to be highly respectable, he having been at college with his nephew—we asked the prisoner, in case the information did not relate to Mr. Tebbutt, or that he could not get any thing by it, would he return the money—he said he

would—he gave the information, and I think a receipt was given for it—it was asked for, I do not know whether by Mr. Tebbutt or myself, and he gave it—I am telling the substance of what passed, as far as I can recollect—he gave a piece of paper, with what, he said, was the information—this is the paper and the receipt—they were handed to Mr. Tebbutt—he said it did not relate to him, and asked him for the money back—Ady said he would not give it back—I do not recollect any thing passing about a lawyer—he did not return the money—he was asked for it a great many times—we stopped in the house a great while, and tried to get it; and at last went away, and made application to the Lord Mayor—the prisoner sent his servant for a policeman, because we would not go out of the house with—out the money—I think Ady attempted to lay hold of me by the collar, to force me out of the house—I had not used any violence to him—I did not approve of being taken by the collar, and I think I said if he did take hold of my collar, I should knock him down, or any man who attempted it—he shut me outside the door, and locked himself in—that was before the policeman came, I believe—I and Mr. Tebbutt went away together, and never got the sovereign back.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES. Q. Do I understand you that the 10th of July was the first time you had seen Mr. Tebbutt? A. The first or second, I cannot say which—he called on me, because I had purchased some property of which he was the ground landlord, and I wished to buy the freehold—I do not know what interval elapsed between his first and second call—I am not certain I saw him twice—the very first time he mentioned the subject to me, I went with him—I do not think he told me that the letter came from the Minories—he gave me the letter—I knew I was going to the Circus, before I went—I cannot say whether I mentioned the name of Ady to him as living in the Minories—I knew the name of Ady before—I had applied to him before, and had paid money for some information—I think I received a paper from him—I called on him again, and said the information was not what I expected—he gave me back the sovereign—I am sure I do not know whether I told Mr. Tebbutt that Ady lived in the Minories—I might, or I might not; I cannot charge my recollection with it—I recognised Ady when 1 went into the room—I do not think I called him by his name in the conversation at all, but I am sure I do not know—I recollect Mr. Tebbutt giving me the sovereign to give to him, as we were going along—I cannot tell why he did not keep it himself—I do not know that any thing particular passed when he gave it me—I think he said, "If we are satisfied the information is correct, and the name the letter bears is the person who lives there, with my consent you will give him the money—I do not think I told Mr. Tebbutt that I had given him a sovereign for information, and got it back—I do not recollect whether I did or did not, but to the best of my recollection, I think not—I do not think I mentioned it while we were in the house, but I cannot recollect—I may have said so—I do not think I told Mr. Tebbutt of that transaction before I got to the house—I might have done so while I was, in the house.

Q. You have said you never mentioned Ady's name to him while you were going there; did it not occur to you, that the letter might have come from Ady? A. I do not think it did at the time, as it was signed "Laurie"—I do not think I told Mr. Tebbutt that I believed the letter came from Ady—I cannot say I did or did not mention Ady's name to Mr. Tebbutt before I went to the house—after the sovereign was paid, some information was given—I repeated to Ady, "Sir, are you confident that letter is the

signature of James Laurie, and that James Laurie is your partner?"—that was both before and after we paid the money—after the information was given to Mr. Tebbutt, vie asked for the money back—we did not ask for it instantly—it might be a quarter of an hour after—I will not swear about it—I am confident it was more than two minutes—I am confident more than two minutes elapsed between our getting the information and demanding the sovereign back—I cannot swear positively, but to the best of my recollection, I am confident two minutes had elapsed.

Q. Did not Ady in reply say, "Go, and make the inquiry first, and then if you do not find it satisfactory, I will give you back the money?" A. No. I do not recollect any thing of the sort—I will not swear he did or did not say so—Mr. Tebbutt said it did not relate to him at all; and as such, he said, "Give me the sovereign back"—I told Ady we would not go out of the house without we had the money—I told him I would knock him down if he collared me—perhaps I might have told him I would hit his nose flat, but I have great doubt of it—he did not give me an opportunity of shaking my fist in his face, for he shut the door in my face—I dare say we were in the house an hour or more—it might be two or three—I cannot tell how long we were in the house before we demanded the sovereign back—I should think it was more than ten minutes—I will not swear it was more—we might have remained two or three hours after he gave the information—we were trying to get the money back.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Probably you would have put your threat in execution if he had collared you? A. No doubt I should—I had paid him for information, but got none—I got my money back after a great deal of trouble.

SIR PETER LAURIE, KNT . I reside in Park-square. I have lately been Lord Mayor—I never had a brother James—I have no brother connected or in partnership with the defendant—I have no brother in London at all.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES. Q. I believe you have known Mr. Ady some years? A. I have—I had him once or twice before me when I was Lord Mayor—I did not direct measures to be taken against him—the Court of Aldermen did—I publicly advertised people to be cautious of him—I think for about a month, once or twice a week, it was done; perhaps it might be longer—I remember stopping it myself.

JOHN LLOYD . I am a corn-dealer, and live in Leather-lane. I was one of the trustees of a fund invested in the Bank for my son—Thomas Tebbutt was the other trustee—it was 60l., bought into the Bank, it purchased 100l. stock—it was invested about twenty-four years ago—he became of age four years ago—the stock was sold in October, 1831—I am sure there was no money of his in the Bank in 1834—I have the receipt in my pocket for the sale of the stock.

Cross-examined by MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. What did it amount to when it was sold out? A. 160l. odd—the dividend had not been invested regularly, or it would have been more—it was invested about twelve months after he was born—if the dividend had been invested regularly, it would have been more—I never knew Mr. Ady in my life.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Do you know a gentleman named James Laurie? A. No.

FREDERICK LACY . I am secretary to the Welch Charity, and live at the school-house in Gray's-inn-road. I have lived there constantly since the 24th of June, 1831—no person named Hayward has lived there since that time—I know such a person by name.

Mr. Adolphus addressed the Court and the Jury on the defendant's behalf. (Augustus Cole, chinaman, 31, Houndsditch; John Saunders, Laurence-Pountney-lane, factor; Benjamin Denton, keeper of the Kent and Essex. Tavern, Whitechapel; Richard Spurgeon; John Cookson Kelly, printer, Houndsditch; Messrs. William Parnell Tyars, John Hoard, and Abraham Saul, Common Council-men of Portsoken Ward; William Moss Batho, vestry clerk to St. Botolph, Without Aldgate; and Thomas Cole, chinaman, Hackney-road, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY .— Transported for Seven Years.

NEW COURT.—Saturday, February 7, 1835.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-618
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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EMANUEL BIRCH . I was footman to Henry Revel Reynolds, Esq., of Wimpole-street. The prisoner was in the habit of visiting the cook—she was there on the 17th of January—I was in the habit of taking the silver dessert-forks into the kitchen to wash every day—they were all right on the 11th, and en the 15th I missed one—the prisoner was in the house on the 11th, and every day succeeding—this is the fork.

JOHN PAWLEY . I am a pawnbroker, in the service of Mr. Attenborough, in Charlotte-street. On Saturday, the 17th of January, the prisoner brought this fork to pawn, and was stopped with it—there had been a crest on it, which was partly erased—I gave it to the policeman.

JAMES FORD (police-constable E 7.) I produce the fork.

GUILTY . Aged 30.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Two Months.

2nd February 1835
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ELIZABETH MARY ANN ELLIOTT . I am the wife of William Elliott—he is a private in the 2nd Regiment of life Guards—I live in Edward-street, Regent's-park. On the 3rd of February, about eight o'clock in the evening, I was standing at the comer of Charles-street, Hampstead-road, looking at a show—I felt a hand in my pocket—I looked to see who was near me, and saw the prisoner—he moved his hand from my side—I laid hold of the tail of his coat, and felt in my pocket—I missed my purse, which contained four half-crowns, five shillings, and three sixpences—I told the prisoner he had taken my purse—he said he had not, and got from me, and ran—I called, "Stop thief"—he threw something away—I followed him till he was stopped—I came up to him, and said he had robbed me—he said he had not—I said, "Then you have thrown it away," and a little girl came up and said, "Here is the purse that man threw away"—he begged of me not to expose him to the crowd, and for God's sake to forgive him, as he had a wife and two children, and was distressed—he said he lived in the next street but one, and if I would go with him he would make me any recompense—I told him it was all I had in the world—I went with him to the street he had mentioned, and then he said he lived in the City-road—an officer then came up and took him—this is my purse.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. He asked you not to expose him? A. Yes—he did not say if I would not, he would tell me where he lived.

SARAH SHARP . The prisoner threw this purse away—it fell on my right foot—I gave it to Mrs. Elliott.

Cross-examined. Q. Are you sure (in the crowd of persons) as to the man who did it? Yes—there were a great many persons round—he was running, and others running after him.

STEPHEN THORNTON (police-constable E 53.) I heard the cry, and came up—the prisoner had been caught in the crowd, and the prosecutrix was by his side—this purse was given to me—I asked what he had to say—he said, "Nothing at present."

GUILTY . Aged 30.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Six Months.

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DANIEL JOHN SMITH . I am a tailor. I was Covent-garden, and heard the noise—I went and saw the mob—what has been stated is correct—the witness was very much ill-treated by the mob.

WILLIAM DUNGATE (police-constable F 22.) I was called to assist—there was very great resistance made—if I had come up, the prisoner would have escaped.

(Joseph Bendon, a plasterer, and John Child gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY .* Aged 16.— Transported for Seven Years.

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BENJAMIN KIMPTON . I am a bookseller, and live in Hard-court, Holborn. On the 4th of February, between eleven and twelve o'clock in the forenoon, the prisoner was brought into my shop with these two volumes of Blackstone's Commentaries, which had been taken away from two other volumes—I had put them out at my shop three quarters of an hour before.

Prisoner. I was going down Holborn—a boy asked me to buy these books, and said he wanted some money to buy bread—I said I had no money, but I would give him some bread, which I had just got, and I did so—I was going down Hand-court with the books, and the officer took

me—the baker came to the prosecutor's shop, and said I had had two pounds of bread of him.

JOHN PIPER (police-constable.)I took the prisoner as he was running—I asked what he had in his apron—he said, "Nothing"—I found these books—he said he had given two pounds of bread for them—the baker came to the prosecutor's shop, and said he had received two pounds of bread that morning, which is the Parish allowance.

ALEXANDER SMITH . I am the prisoner's brother. He lost his father, and was in the workhouse—the master turned him out, and gave him 6d.—since then he has had the allowance of bread from the Parish.


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Reference Numbert18350202-628
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THOMAS LEWIS . I live in King-street, Lower-road, Islington, and am a grocer. This is my sugar—my name is on the wrapper—I left my shop, on the 5th of February, a few minutes after nine o'clock, and never saw the sugar again, till it was at the station.

HENRY WINGROVE . I live in Queen-street, Islington. About eleven o'clock that morning, I was about a dozen doors from the prosecutor's, and saw the prisoner and another boy lurking about the shop—the other boy went into the shop, brought out the loaf of sugar, and gave it to the prisoner, who put it into his apron, and walked away—Mrs. Lewis came out, and said, "Wingrove, stop him."

Prisoner. The other boy went in, and came out and dropped the sugar on the edge of the door—it rolled down to the kennel—I did not have it at all—I hardly know what dress the other boy had on. Witness. they were together for five minutes before he went in—I was loading dung—Mrs. Lewis took up the sugar—I took the prisoner—he kneeled down and begged for pardon and mercy—my horse was towards Mrs. Lewis's shop—I watched them, I may say, ten minutes—the prisoner appeared to be waiting for the other while he went in—my partner caught the other boy, but he was let go.

GUILTY . Aged 12.— Confined One Month.

2nd February 1835
Reference Numbert18350202-629
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THOMAS SAVAGE . I placed this roll of flannel at my door on a box, which was about a foot inside, and half a foot outside the house, about nine or ten o'clock in the morning of the 28th of January—I went out about three o'clock in the afternoon, and returned at five o'clock—I then heard a piece of flannel had been stolen—this is it—it has my mark on it.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. What mark have you on it? A. The private cost mark and the selling mark—I bought it of Llewellin and Co. in Aldermanbury—the marks are my own writing—I live in Tottenham-court-road.

JOHN KNIGHT (police-constable F 105.) I saw the prisoner with this in Broadway, St. Giles's—he had it under his arm—I watched him some distance—he saw me, and ran away directly—I ran and took him.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Two Months.

2nd February 1835
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