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SEVENTH SESSION, HELD AT Justice Hall, in the Old Bailey, On THURSDAY, the 13th of SEPTEMBER, 1827, and following Days.

TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND,(By Authority of the Corporation of the City of London) By H. BUCKLER.

London: PRINTED BY J. BOOTH, No. 31, St. Andrew's Hill, Doctors' Commons; and PUBLISHED BY T. KEYS, CITY LIBRARY, COLEMAN STREET.



Before the Right Honourable ANTHONY BROWN , LORD MAYOR of the City of London; Sir Stephen Gazelee , Knt., one of the Justices of his Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; John Vaughan , Esq., one of the Barons of his Majesty's Court of Exchequer; John Ansley , Esq.; Sir Charles Flower , Bart.; Christopher Smith , Esq.; John Thomas Thorp , Esq.; and William Venables , Esq.; Aldermen of the said City; Newman Knowlys , Esq., Recorder of the said City; Matthias Prime Lucas , Esq.; and Sir Peter Laurie , Knt.; Aldermen of the said City; Thomas Denman, Esq., Common Sergeant of the said City; and William St. Julien Arabin , Sergeant at Law; his Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer of the City of London, and Justices of the Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City and the County of Middlesex.



John Parker ,

Jph. Barnes , Jun.

Wm. Brown ,

Jas. Dudderidge ,

Thomas Davis ,

Wm. Bright ,

Wm. Munday ,

Wm. Camp ,

James Laban ,

Henry Sparrow ,

Wm. Wilson ,

John Fairburn .


Geo. Bradford ,

James Staines ,

Wm. Hodges .

James Ransom ,

James Goss ,

Fred. Teanby ,

Richard Atkin ,

John Pickett ,

John Newman ,

John Woolmer ,

John Campion ,

Jph. Bollington .


Wm. E. Poole ,

Edward Vickris ,

John Gaunt ,

Matw. Atherley ,

John Avilla ,

Robert Peel ,

Joseph Jessop ,

Saml. Chapman ,

James Ashley ,

John J. Burge ,

Wm. A. Cotton ,

John Wood .



James Starkey ,

John Stacey ,

George Spooner ,

Isaac Reynolds ,

Edw. Plant ,

Wm. Peters ,

John Pistor ,

Thos. Reynolds ,

Isaac Rough ,

Jonathan Ward ,

David Hunter ,

John Rudd .


Wm. Wright ,

John Gilles ,

John Smith , Jun.

W. Whittenbury ,

W. Woodworth ,

John Wain ,

Thos. Thomas ,

George Taylor ,

Frans. Hanbury ,

Charles Lewin ,

John Stracy ,

Thomas Hewett .


George Morley ,

L. B. Lecand ,

Wm. Mosely ,

Jph. Smollenger ,

Geo. F. Reynolds ,

John Stockton ,

Gideon Hussy ,

James Mingay ,

Thos. Marshall ,

James Moore ,

John Sellers ,

Geo. Wilson .


John Sutton ,

Thos. Sanders ,

George Smith ,

Wm. Tizzard ,

David Gray ,

Thos. Ramsden ,

John Ray ,

Wm. Mace ,

Thomas Mott ,

John Staples ,

George Mamson ,

Hugh Munday .




13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-1

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First Middlesex Jury - Before Mr. Justice Gaselee.

1589. JOHN WHITE was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Thomas Thistle , on the 12th of July , at Willesden , and stealing 2 gowns, value 8s.; 1 shirt, value 1s., and 1 handkerchief, value 1s. , his property.

THOMAS THISTLE . I live at Alsden-green , in Willesden parish - it is my dwelling-house; my daughter lives with me. On the 12th of July, between three and four o'clock in the afternoon, as I was in the field adjoining my house, I heard the bolt of one of the doors of the house creak, and went round to see who was there, as I knew nobody was at home - my daughter had gone out. I saw the prisoner come away from the house, with a bundle under his arm; he came away from the house - I did not see him come out of the door: he was about twenty yards from the house when I first saw him. I asked him what he had got there - he said what he had got was his own: I told him I knew the handkerchief the bundle was tied up in; he then made his escape into the road, with the bundle: I went up to him - he asked if it was my property; I told him it was- he pulled out part of one of the gowns, and asked me if I knew that; he gave the bundle a shove towards me, and said, "Take it, and say nothing about it;" I took the bundle, and he took to his heels and ran - I ran after him, hallooing Stop thief! some hay-makers in the field stopped him in my sight; I am sure he is the man - he was never out of my sight. I found in the bundle two gowns, a shirt, and a handkerchief; I gave them to the constable; my daughter had gone out of the house after me. I had left it about nine o'clock in the morning, and had not been home afterwards. I went back to the house, and found one of the ground-floor windows open, and the other half open; there was room for any body to get in: I heard the door open as he came out. I fetched my daughter, who had gone out after me.

Prisoner. Q. Did I not come back, and bring you the bundle? A. As soon as I took it you ran.

Q. Did I not come back out of my, way to give you the bundle? A. No, you was going that way - you stopped when I met you; I was in the yard, and you was going along the road - you did not come back to me; I did not see you before you came from the house with the bundle.

Q. After you went to look for your daughter, did not you see a man, and ask him if he was the person who had been with me? A. No; I never said I saw a man running and asked why he ran, and that he said because he heard a cry of Stop thief!

ANN THISTLE . I am the prosecutor's daughter-in-law. On the 12th of July I went out about ten o'clock, leaving nobody in the house. When I left the house the windows were both nailed down; I bolted all the doors - I went out at the front door, which I locked, and took the key with me- I was fetched back by my father, and found one window partly open, and the other quite so; he had got into the wash-house, and broke the middle door open. I lost two gowns, a shirt, and a handkerchief, which I had seen safe in the drawers that day.

JAMES PAYNE . I am a constable. I produce two gowns, a shirt, and a handkerchief, which were brought to my house with the prisoner, by* the prosecutor and some haymakers - I have had them ever since.

Prisoner. Q. Are the things in the same state as when you received them? A. Yes; they are the same things - the gown has not been washed; nothing has been done to them: they have not been out of my possession.

Q. Did not you hear the prosecutor say he saw a man running, and asked if he knew any thing of the robbery? - A. No.

ANN THISTLE . The gowns are mine, and also the handkerchief. I am seventeen years old; the shirt is my father's.

Prisoner's Defence. Three days before I met this man I was in Oxford-street, and met one Milton, a Devonshire man - he asked where I came from: I told him: he asked if I knew one Milton; I said Yes - he said he was his father, and asked me to go and drink some beer; we went to Hyde-park, and had the beer, opposite Tyburn-gate; he said, "How are you off for blunt?" I said I was rather short: he said he had some money coming to him, if I would go with him to-morrow, a few shillings might be of service to me. We went round to several houses; he came out of a house, and said he had received 1s. 6d., and was to call again on Thursday; he then asked me to go to his lodgings, where he had left some clothes; I went: he said, "I am going across to this house, where I lodge, for my things - you wait there till I come back;" I waited a considerable time, and then went up; the gate was open: I turned to my right, into the little garden - he came out with the bundle, and said, "These are my clothes - I wish you would take them - I will overtake you - I am going a little way;" and as I came out across the yard, this man called to me, and said, "Halloo! what have you there?" I said, "Nothing belonging to you I believe;" he said, "I wish you

would bring it back and let me see;" I went back to him, about the length of this Court, and said, "Look at it, and see if this is any thing of your's; take it;" he opened the handkerchief, and said, "Here are some things I can swear to;" I said, "Take hold of them;" he directly called Stop thief; I acknowledge that I ran then, and was surrounded in less than five minutes; he says he saw me coming out of the house.

Two witnesses gave the prisoner a good character.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 52.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-2
VerdictGuilty; Guilty; Not Guilty
SentenceDeath; Death

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Before Mr. Baron Vaughan.

1590. EDWARD SADLER , JOHN SADLER , and WILLIAM TOOLEY were indicted for stealing, on the 29th of May , at Hampstead , 1 sheep, price 50s. , the property of John Smith . MR. CLARKSON conducted the prosecution.

JOHN SMITH . I am a butcher , and live at Hampstead. In May last I had forty-three sheep - I bought them in Smithfield on the Monday; some were Lincolnshire, and some Leicestershire sheep, and some were lambs. On the 29th, about ten o'clock in the morning, I missed one Lincolnshire sheep, which was marked down the back and across the loins, with oakum; it was a stripe straight down and across the loin. On the 30th the skin and head of a sheep were brought to my house by James Howarth - I am confident it is the skin of the sheep I lost the day before; a hind quarter of mutton, a shoulder, and liver were also brought to my house by Kerridge, my servant, on the 29th- I saw a side of mutton at Worship-street on the 30th, I believe; it was on a Thursday. I compared the mutton brought to my house with the skin, and am certain it corresponded. I know Tooley - I believe he carries milk out for his father, who is a respectable man. The mutton was cut up in a butcher-like manner, and the skin well taken off; the head was servered from the skin: I compared the head with the skin - it fitted exactly. I was not present when any other mutton was compared with what was brought to my house.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Is the person here who fastened your sheep up at night? A. Yes. I had bought the sheep on the 28th, the day before; I always examine them well before I buy them; I bought forty-three - some of them at 6 o'clock in the morning, and some at 11; they were driven to Hampstead; I only had the rest of the day to get acquainted with the marks, but they were my own marks; a ruddle mark across the back is very common - it was done with oakum. I have known Tooley three or four years - he assists his father; I never knew him in any other employ: I never knew a breach in his character before - he has been out on bail, and surrendered.

COURT. Q. Were these sheep part of a larger lot in the market so marked? A. No, my Lord. I marked them myself after I bought them.

THOMAS ASHBY . I am a watchman of Islington - my beat is on Highgate-hill. On Tuesday morning, the 29th of May, at five o'clock, I saw the prisoners Edward and John Sadler, on Highgate-hill; John had a bag on his back- I asked them what they had got - Edward Sadler said it was pork; they were in company together: I said I wished to see it - Edward said, "If you will come to my house I will show it to you;" I asked where they lived - Edward said he lived just over the way, thirty or forty yards off; it turned out to be the place where they did live- I accompained them there, and then asked Edward to show me what the bag contained - he asked where was my authority, or had I a search-warrant; I told him No, that my duty was to stop any body I thought suspicious; he then said, "Well, if I must tell you the truth, it is mutton"- he opened the bag, and I saw it; there was a hind quarter and a fore quarter of mutton, and some fat - it was quite warm at the time; I asked Edward where he had it from- he said he had it from Hampstead, and mentioned a person's name. I took the prisoners and mutton to the watch-house. Edward Sadler 's wife had the breakfast things on the table, and before I took them to the watch-house Edward told her to go to Hampstead, and tell the person of whom he bought the mutton, that he was in the watch-house; I proceeded with them and the mutton to the watch-house, and on the road Edward said he expected the man he bought the mutton of was gone to the races, but if he was not there his man must come - he said that to his wife when he sent her. I asked them on the road where they got the mutton from; Edward said that he bought it overnight - I asked him at what time - he said about five o'clock in the afternoon. They both said they had been to Hampstead to pay their club, and spent their money, got drunk, and stopped there all night, and that was the reason they had not got home before; they said they had sold mutton all the winter since Christmas, and had it from the same person as they bought that of - that they were out of work, and got 6s. or 7s. a week by it. I gave them into Grafton's custody.

Cross-examined. Q. How far is Highgate-hill from the watch-house? A. About two miles and three quarters; I was not alone with them all the way - we overtook a waggon at the Crown public-house, about half a mile from their house, and rode about three quarters of a mile in that; I walked alone with them, but there were several watchmen within hail, coming off their beats.

THOMAS GRAFTON . I am a constable of the night of Islington. On Tuesday morning, the 29th of May, Ashby brought the Sadlers to me; they had this bag, containing a fore and hind quarter of mutton, and a long piece of fat. - After the mutton was taken before the Magistrate it was delivered to Mr. Smith; I examined it - it was not cold. I put some questions to the prisoners, and went to the house of Tooley the same morning, in company with Ashby (Sadlers being in the watch-house;) I met Tooley on the road to his house - it was about seven o'clock in the morning (directly after securing the prisoners) - I asked if his name was Tooley; he acknowledged that it was; I asked if he had sold any persons any mutton that morning; he said he had not. I took him into custody, and searched his house between seven and eight o'clock that morning, but found nothing there. I went again in the afternoon, with a warrant, but had searched the house before; nothing was found in my presence at either search, not in the house or any where else.

Cross-examined. Q. What did you do with Tooley after you took him? A. I kept him in custody - he was not out of my sight till he went before the Magistrate.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Was any body at his house when you searched? A. Yes, two persons.

COURT. Q. Did he go voluntarily with you? A. Yes; he did not attempt to escape.

JOHN BUSTIN. I am a constable of Hampstead. On Wednesday, the 30th of May, in consequence of information which I received, I searched Tooley's house, between ten and eleven o'clock; Eldridge, another constable was with me: we found nothing material in the house, but in a basket in the area I found a gut - it appeared to be a sheep's gut; it was only a short piece of gut; there was a basket of dung and straw in the area - I cannot tell what sort it was. We went into a cellar, and in a rabbit-hutch there we found a piece of suet fat - it was kidney fat, and appeared to me to be sheep's fat; we searched the privy, and among the soil, on stirring it up, we saw some congealed blood; after that, in the kitchen, under the sink, I found this handkerchief, all over blood; I found nothing else there. I had made a search before that; on my first coming up that day, in Golden-square, at the top of Hampstead, about thirty yards from Tooley's house, and on the ground there was a leg and loin of mutton - it appeared to have been taken out of a privy; the privy, there is open to the whole yard - I searched that privy, but there was no blood there; the privy I found the blood in was occupied by Tooley - his wife was present when I found the gut in the basket. I went that morning from his house to a pond, about one hundred yards off - it is called Clock-house pond; Phillips and Eldridge were with me; I saw something laying on the top of the water: Phillips pulled it out - it was a shoulder of mutton, and was fresh. After that I saw Eldridge pull out a piece of suet kidney fat - that was fresh. I saw a lad named Preston take the liver out of the pond - that was also fresh; two or three old sheep skins were found in the pond, tied together with a rope, and bricks tied to them. I was at Worship-street when the whole of the mutton found, and that taken from the prisoners Sadlers, was compared together, and to the best of my judgment, they fitted - I have no doubt of it. I saw a sheep's skin produced at Worship-street; the mutton found by me, and that found on Sadlers was compared with the skin - it all corresponded together exactly; I did not see the head compared. I have not the least doubt they came from the same carcase.

Cross-examined. Q. You are not a butcher? A. No. The privy in which the hind quarter was supposed to be found was common to all the houses - any body might go there; it is about thirty yards from Tooley's: there are a great many more houses nearer to it than his. There is a road right round the pond; Golden-square is about one hundred yards from the pond. I know Tooley - he bore a most respectable character as far as I ever heard.

COURT. Q. Do you know whether either of the prisoners have been bred as a butcher? A. I do not, my Lord.

JOHN PHILLIPS . I am a constable of St. John, Hampstead. I was present at the last search of Tooley's house, but saw nothing found - I went to the pond, and found a shoulder of mutton, and the paunch also - they were fresh- I was present when they were compared with the legs of the skin, at Worship-street, and they corresponded; I saw the two hind quarters compared, and believe them to belong to that skin; one shoulder and the ribs of one side were wanting to complete the whole sheep. I have seen Tooley killing pigs for himself and other people.

Cross-examined. Q. Has not Tooley been at large and surrendered? A. Yes, on bail - I believe he bore an excellent character.

JOHN ELDRIDGE . I am a constable. I was present at the second search at Tooley's house, and accompanied the constable to the pond; the shoulder, the head, a lot of fat, and a paunch were found - I was present when they were compared with the other mutton, and with the skin - they appeared to form one carcase. I saw the head compared with the skin - it corresponded.

Cross-examined. Q. Is not the pond an open one? A. Exactly so.

JAMES HOWARTH . I am a smith, and live at Hampstead. On the 30th of May I was fishing in a pond at the Vale of Health - it is called Vale of Health pond, and is about five hundred yards from Tooley's house - I found two sheeps' skins there - the first was very fresh, and the other quite decayed. I was alarmed, and left it there - Clark was with me; and between ten and eleven o'clock I got the skin out, and took it to Mr. Smith's house.

Cross-examined. Q. Is Tooley's house a cottage by itself, or in a street? A. There are a lot of houses together, joining one another, in Golden-square; there are a great many houses nearer to the pond than his. The pond is on the heath, open to every body.

CHARLES MILLER . I am a butcher, and live with my father, at Hampstead. I was present on the 30th of May, when the pond was searched, and found the sheep's head in Clock-house-pond - it is not called Vale of Health-pond- it is nearly a quarter of a mile from Vale of Health-pond- I gave it to Kerridge, and did not see it compared. I saw the skin - it was a very large sheep, and the Lincolnshire breed are very large.

COURT. Q. Can you swear to the county it was born in, from seeing the head? A. No. The skin was not on the head - I cannot swear to the breed, but suppose it to be Lincolnshire.

WILLIAM KERRIDGE . I am a butcher, and live at West-end. I was employed by Mr. Smith to count his sheep on Tuesday morning, the 29th of May - there were then forty-two; I had brought them from Smithfield the day before; how many there were then I cannot say: some of them were Lincolnshire sheep; I can tell Lincolnshire mutton from any other breed. On the 29th, I saw at Worship-street a hind and fore quarter of mutton, and part of the caul fat, and am certain it was Lincolnshire mutton. I was afterwards present when the pond was searched, and saw the shoulder and the head, and am quite certain they belonged to the same carcase as the other mutton. - I saw the skin next day, in the prosecutor's presence, and knew it by the marks - it was a Lincolnshire sheep; I saw it compared with the mutton at the office on the Thursday - I carefully examined it, and have no doubt it belonged to the mutton, and it was the skin of one of the sheep I had brought from the market. When the nose piece was cut off a piece of skin was cut off with it, and it tallied with the skin; it was cut sloping down, and if ever it is cut off it is done perpendicularly. Tooley works with his father - he was never employed by me. The mutton I saw was cut in a butcher-like manner.

Cross-examined. Q. Can you say, if you saw a hind quarter of mutton fifty miles off, you could swear to its

being Lincolnshire without the skin? A. I should pass my judgment on it - I could tell it from Leicestershire, or any other county almost. There may be breeds which I never saw. I could tell Lincolnshire from Leicestershire mutton - if it was cross breed I should call it half breed.

COURT. Q. Lincolnshire is a coarse breed? A. Yes, and lean.

WILLIAM LLOYD . I am servant to Mr. Smith. On the 28th of May, between seven and eight o'clock in the evening, I counted his sheep; there were then forty-three. I know all the prisoners by sight - I never knew Tooley except as living with his father, who is a milkman.

COURT to T. GRAFTON. Q. Did you search the back kitchen? A. Yes; in the back kitchen of the house which Sadler took me to, I found a meat-saw, a chopper, a gamblehook, a cord, and an axe; I found them there on the afternoon of the 29th, about six or seven o'clock; I do not know whether any body else lives there; I also found a pair of overalls, stained with blood, in that kitchen - the prisoners were then at Worship-street.

The prisoners made no defence. Two witnesses gave both the Sadlers a good character.




13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-3
VerdictsNot Guilty

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Before Mr. Justice Gaselee.

1591. STEPHEN RILEY was indicted for feloniously assaulting Mary Macpherson , on the King's highway, on the 21st of June , putting her in fear, and taking from her person, and against her will, 1 reticule, value 1s., 6 sovereigns, 10 shillings, three 10l. and two 5l. Bank notes , the property of William Macpherson ; and JOHN TRISTRAM was indicted for feloniously receiving two of the said 10l. notes, well knowing them to have been stolen .

MR. CLARKSON conducted the prosecution.

MARY MACPHERSON . I am the wife of William Macpherson ; we live in Rockingham-row, New Kent-road. On the 21st of June I was going to Bedford-square, to pay some money, and had the property stated in the indictment in my reticule; I had received the notes at Sir R. Carr Glyn's bank, about the 8th of June; I am sure they were part of the money - I had put them into my reticule: I left home a little after ten o'clock, and twisted the strings of my reticule round my finger. I came to Charing-cross by the stage; the money was then all safe. I was proceeding up George-street - Buckeridge-street and George-street form a corner; the prisoner Tristram keeps the Cock public-house , at that corner; when I came to that public-house I had to pass three men, who stood near a post at the public-house door; I remarked that one of them had a loose shabby brown coat on; he looked particularly at me, for which reason I looked particularly at him: I had scarcely passed them, when I found myself suddenly seized behind - I was quite confined, and could not turn myself round; I had a parasol in one hand, and my reticule in the other; a man's hand came round in front, and gave my bag a violent pull, but without effect, as I resisted; the third pull was a violent snatch, the force of which pulled me into the kennel, and he got the bag away, leaving the strings in my hand; they were broken by the force of the pull. I saw a man running immediately before me, round Buckeridge-street; I rose immediately, and followed him; I called Stop thief! two or three times, but no one came to my assistance. I was robbed close to the door of the public-house: I observed nothing against the house; I followed the man who was running - he was the one in the brown coat.

Q. Up to that time had you seen the face of the man in the brown coat? A. I consider that I had, as he looked at me, and I believe the man who was running was the same, I gave information at the office: one Flanagan was afterwards taken, on suspicion of being one of the persons at the post: I stated to the Magistrate, that I believed him to be the person, from his great likeness to the present prisoner: I cannot say that the prisoner is the man, but, as it was proved that the other man was not one, I believe the prisoner to be the man.

Cross-examined by MR. LAW. Q. You believed the other to be the person? A. At that time I did. I never stated to the Magistrate that the prisoner was not the person- I did not consider him to be the man at that time. I went to Marlborough-street with some officers one or two days after the robbery, and several men were produced to me - I cannot say whether Riley was one of them, but I fancy he was; I did not then think that I had seen the right man. I had a very imperfect view of the man who robbed me; I shook my head, and said I did not see the man as I thought- I had a very imperfect light, and could not distinguish the features of any one of them. Flanagan was afterwards taken by my description, and I said I believed him to be the man - I spoke distinctly to him; the prisoner was committed about a fortnight after I had seen the three men, and he had been produced to me twice in that time I think. I was present when a painter and a boy were examined.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Was Hems, the painter, present when Flanagan was first examined? A. No; he was at the last examination.

JOHN HEMS . I am a painter, and live in Eden-street, Regent-street. On the 21st of June I was employed in painting Tristram's public-house; I began on the 20th. On the 21st, about a quarter before twelve o'clock, I was on a ladder painting the lower window in Buckeridge-street, which forms a corner with George-street; I heard a faint voice below cry Stop thief! I got down immediately, and saw Mrs. Macpherson - she went on three or four yards ahead of me; I had seen a person running past me before I heard the cry of Stop thief! - it might be two minutes before - he came running out of George-street from Mrs. Macpherson, at the rate of about five miles an hour; it was as much as he could do to clear my ladder. When I first saw Mrs. Macpherson she was running past me, all over mud, and her reticule strings were hanging down. I can swear that Riley is the man who ran by, before I heard the alarm- he had his hand clasped up to his side as if he had something tucked up; he had a kind of snuff-coloured long coat on, corduroy or fustian trousers, white stockings, and half-boots laced up. I was first examined at the office on the Thursday-week after the robbery: nothing has been said to me by either of the prisoners as to my attending here or elsewhere, but there has been by other persons - the man was in my view a quarter or half a minute; I saw his face perfectly well.

Cross-examined by MR. LAW. Q. Were you not afraid of falling from your ladder? A. Yes; I got down directly.

COURT. Q. After this happened did you go into the public-house? A. Not till I went in for my dinner. I then saw the landlord in the bar, and was going to speak to him about the man running by, but a butcher, who was with me, asked if I had seen any thing of the robbery: I said I had. Tristram called me to him, and said the less I said about it the better.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Is the butcher here now? A. No; I think Tristram must have heard me, for I went to the bar to get some beer, and he beckoned to me with his finger, and I understood then that he wanted to speak to me; several people were in the house - I cannot say whether any were in the bar; I did not know Tristram till I went there to work; he said, "The less you say the better - I speak for your own good."

WILLIAM REES . I am twelve years old, and live with my parents in George-street. On Thursday, the 21st of June, I saw the prosecutrix in George-street, near the Cock public-house; I saw the prisoner Riley go up to her - he caught hold of her by the side, took hold of her reticule, and pulled her down on the ground; he then ran round the corner into Buckeridge-street; he wore a brown snuff-coloured coat, and corduroy trousers: I had seen him along with two more, who went away when he went up to Mrs. Macpherson. I saw him again between six and seven o'clock the same evening, in George-street, in the same coat, and he has it on now. I was was taken before the Justice next day; a person was shown to me there, but that was not Riley. Mrs. Macpherson was there, and I knew her to be the lady I had seen robbed.

Cross-examined by MR. LAW. Q. Were you taken to Clerkenwell prison? A. Duke, the officer, took me there - it might be a month after this; Hems was not there; I saw Hems at the time of the robbery; I was very near him, but did not speak about it; I mentioned it the same evening to Mr. Clock, at the coach-makers in Russel-street; I did not know Hems before; he had the same coat on in the evening as he has now, but at the time he committed the offence he was dressed different.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. You told Mr. Clock, at the coach-makers in Russell-street, of it the same evening; was that the house Mrs. Macpherson was taken to on the occasion? A. Yes.

OWEN THOMAS WILLIAMS . I am cashier at Sir Richard Carr Glyn 's banking house. I find by an entry in my book, that on the 8th of June, I paid a cheque signed by Mrs. Macpherson, on account of the Cardiff bank, for 59l. 15s. 10d. I paid her five 10l. notes, Nos. 9292 to 9296, dated the 14th of May, 1825, a 5l. note, and the rest in money; two of the 10l. notes which I paid ler were produced at Bow-street.

THOMAS ANNS . I am collecting clerk to Messrs. Meux and Co. Tristram dealt with them. On the 26th of June I received a payment of 40l. at his house; it was part in notes and part in cash; I wrote his name in front of each note, and paid them into our house next day: his wife made the payment, to the best of my knowledge; my belief is, that he was out; I saw two of the notes at the office about six weeks ago, and can speak to them from the memorandum I made of them.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Can you undertake to swear you ever saw the notes in his possession? A. No.

JAMES PRICE . I am clerk in the accountant's-office, of the Bank of England. I produce a 10l. note, No. 9292, which was paid into the Bank on the 12th of July.

ROBERT DUKE . I am a patrol of Bow-street. On the 21st of June I went to Tristram's, the Cock public-house, in George-street, St. Giles', twice, and saw him both times, but said nothing to him till the second time, which was at night; I told him the Magistrates of our office were very angry at a robbery having been committed at his door at twelve o'clock in the day, and that he seemed to know nothing at all about it; I told him to inquire and learn out who it was, and let me know; he said all he could learn was, that it was a little boy in a fustian jacket: I described the nature of the robbery to him, and said the lady had been robbed of two 10l. and two 5l. notes, six sovereigns, and some silver. Fagan, a patrol, was with me. I called upon him several times afterwards, but never could get any further information. I have two notes which were sent to me by Mrs. Macpherson.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you not always find him at home? A. I did; he always gave the same account; I did not give him the number or date of the notes; he has been out on bail, and surrendered to day.

JAMES PRICE re-examined. These two notes have certainly been paid into the Bank, for they are cancelled.

THOMAS ANNS . The name of Tristram is on these two notes, in my hand-writing; they are part of what were paid me at his house.

THOMAS FAGAN . I accompanied Duke to Tristram's house, and heard him state the amount of the notes lost. I was afterwards sent from our office with a summons for Tristram to attend Riley's examination, and took him there with me; I told him I brought him there about two notes which were traced to him, and had been stolen from a lady in George-street: he said two notes were exchanged at his house on the Monday after the robbery, by a man who had a glass of brandy and water; I asked if he knew him or had taken his address: he said he never saw him in his life before. I said it was a strange thing that he should take two 10l. notes of a stranger; he said he had frequently done so; that he exchanged notes for any one who called there, and never took their addresses.

RILEY's Defence. At the office I was brought out by myself for the lady to look at me - she said I was not the man.


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-4
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1592. TIMOTHY DOGERTY was indicted for feloniously assaulting John Lane , on the King's highway, on the 5th of August , at St. Giles , putting him in fear, and taking from his person, and against his will, 1 seal, value 8s.; 1 ring, value 4s., and 2 watch-keys, value 6d. , his property.

JOHN LANE . I am a Chelsea pensioner . On the 5th of August, rather before ten o'clock at night, I was going up Holborn with my wife, my sister, and brother-in-law; my sister and wife were arm-in-arm, my brother-in-law just a little behind, and I was behind him. I observed a man rush right through between the two women, and push my sister up against the wall; my brother-in-law instantly asked him what he shoved his wife for: a man, who was in his company, turned round and struck my brother a blow in the

eye, and gave him a tremendous black eye. I then asked what he struck him for, and the prisoner then up with his hand, and struck me on the head; he was in company with the rest - there were three or four of them; he knocked my hat off, and with his other hand made a grasp at my watch ribbon and seals; the ribbon broke, and he got the seals - I felt the jerk, and said, "You d-d scoundrel, you have not got my watch!" I instantly pursued him, struck at him, and knocked him down; I laid hold of him by the hand as he was trying to put the seal into his pocket. I took my seal out of his hand, with the ring and two metal keys - they were all in his hand: my wife called out for the watchman, who came up; he began to talk Irish to the watchman; the watchman collared me - he spoke to him in Irish, and then the watchman tried to make me let go the prisoner, and said he saw me strike him, but he was not there at the time. I would not let the prisoner go, and took him down to St. Giles' watch-house. He was never out of my hand- the watchman was an Irishman.

Q. What sort of a blow was it the prisoner gave you? - A. With his fist; he knocked my hat off - there were three or four in company - this was the only one I could secure; I am sure he got possession of the keys, ring, and seal; I took them out of his hands - they were tacked on the ribbon- he tore them off without any of the ribbon to them.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did he appear quite in his senses? A. Yes; he spoke very well - he did not appear half-witted nor drunk. I am sure I did not strike him before he struck me; nobody struck him till I was struck myself; I then struck him; I did not call him any names; he had no weapon about him.

SARAH LANE . I am the prosecutor's wife, and was walking with him on the 5th of August, a little before ten o'clock, in Holborn; I was with my sister-in-law; three or four men were standing; one of them rushed in between me and my sister; my brother asked what he pushed his wife for: a man in a white hat then struck my brother, and knocked him back against the shutter; my husband came up, and asked what was the matter; the prisoner then struck him, and knocked his hat off; I saw him put his hand down to his watch, and saw the seal, keys, and ring, in his hand; my husband said, "You have not got my watch, you scoundrel! you have got my seal, ring, and keys;" with that he knocked him down, and took them out of his hand; I called Watch! the watchman came up, and struck me with the rattle, and knocked me on the pavement; the prisoner and he talked Irish together; he was however secured and taken to the watch-house; the watchman collared my husband instead of the prisoner, but my husband kept hold of the prisoner; when we were going to the watch-house, the man in the white hat walked in the rear of us, and I said he was the man who struck my brother-in-law at first; they talked Irish with the watchman, and he did not take him, though he could easily have done so.

RICHARD LEGG . On the 5th of August I was walking up Holborn; the man in the white hat came in between my wife and sister; I stepped up, and asked what he had pushed my wife for - he immediately gave me a blow in the eye, and cut it so that I could not see for a few moments. I heard my brother call out, "D-n you, you have not got my watch, but you have got my seal." I saw the prisoner at the watch-house afterwards.

Prisoner's Defence. I declare to God I am innocent of what they are swearing against me - he struck me first, and of course I struck him afterwards; he then gave me in charge. I was never in Court before, and ask for mercy.

Three witnesses gave the prisoner a good character, and stated him to be a widower, with two children.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 30.

Recommended to Mercy, supposing it to be his first offence, and having two children .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-5

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1593. ROBERT MARTIN was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Thomas Jones , on the 19th of July , at St. Martin-in-the-fields , and stealing 3 sovereigns, 18 shillings, one 10l. and one 5l. Bank note , the property of Thomas Jones , against the statute.

THOMAS JONES . I am an optician , and live at No. 62, Charing-cross . The prisoner had lived in my service about ten months, and left me last April. On Friday morning, the 20th of July, a little after six o'clock, I found my back kitchen window had been forced open, and a pane, composed of strong brown paper, between the passage and the shop, had been completely separated from the frame; a person could then get into the shop; on entering the shop I found the desk had been forced open by a screw-driver, which laid near it; I found on the counter two drawers, which had been taken out of the desk, turned upside down - and at eight o'clock, when the shopman came, I learned what he had left in the desk the evening before - no money was left in the desk. I do not sleep in the house, but my two servants, whose names are Lockyer and Adams, slept there; one is nineteen, and the other fifteen years old. I had left the house about three or four o'clock the afternoon before - I got there a little before six in the morning, and found them both up, as they should have been, as the workmen come at six o'clock- nobody had been into the shop; as the shop-door was secured.

GEORGE NASH . I am shopman to Mr. Jones. I left the shop at eight o'clock in the evening of the 19th of July; I locked the desk, in which I left a 10l. and 5l. note, 3l. in gold, and 18s. in silver. I deposited the key in the shop where I knew where to find it again. I left Lockyer and Adams in care of the house - I locked up the shop, and put the key of it into a room up stairs - the key of that room is left with the prosecutor's son - I put it into his room; he had the key of that room. I went next morning at eight o'clock, and was informed the shop had been robbed. I noticed a window, which before was covered with brown paper, had been forced open, and somebody appeared to have got in; I got the key of Mr. Jones' room, and found the shop key still there; I found the desk broken open, and two drawers, which I had locked in it the night before, were taken out, and the money taken out; also about 1s. worth of copper was taken out of the till, which had not been locked, and an old black coat of mine was gone - I could identify the 10l. note; I did not notice the back window as I passed it, but afterwards found it was drawn back. I found Lockyer and Adams still in the house.

ISAAC SIMMONDS . I am a clothes salesman, and live

at No. 9, Monmouth-street. On the 20th of July, between six and seven o'clock in the evening, I was passing the shop of Mr. Isaacs', clothes-salesman, of No. 29, Monmouth-street - I cannot exactly say the day of the month- it was on a Friday. I heard of this robbery on the Monday afterwards; Isaacs called me in; I saw the prisoner and Bodnum there: Isaacs asked if I had a handkerchief to sell - I said Yes, and produced one - I sold it to the prisoner and Bodnum, for 4s.; they presented a 10l. note in payment; I cannot swear which of them produced it - I told them they had not come honestly by it, and I would give charge of them; Mrs. Isaacs would not let me give charge of them in her house - she said I should take them to my own house, and give charge of them there; I took them to my house, and sent my shopman for an officer - in the mean time they both said it was their father's note, and they would bring their father down; I agreed for them to fetch him; the shopman came back, and said he did not see the street-keeper at the corner; I cannot say whether they heard that; when I agreed for them to go to their father, they asked me to give them a sovereign, which I refused at first; but they begged hard of me, and said they would bring their father down: I at last gave them a sovereign, with a card of my shop, and told them to call next morning with their father, and I would give him the rest of the change; I kept the note; they went away, and never came back again, nor did their father - I only gave them a handkerchief and a sovereign. I let them go because they persisted in its being their father's.

Prisoner. Q. You robbed me of a 10l. note? A. I did not; I know nothing more than I have stated.

ISAAC ISAACS . I live at No. 29, Monmouth-street, St. Giles'. The prisoner came to my shop on a Friday, between six and seven o'clock in the evening; I cannot exactly tell the date; he came alone at first, and I sold him a suit of clothes for 24s. - he paid me a sovereign and 4s.: he said, "Now you have dealt so fair with me, I will bring my brother down, and he wants a suit;" in an hour or two he brought the witness, Bodnum, and another boy less than him; I sold Bodnum a suit of clothes for 30s. - he gave me a 5l. note; I gave him 3l. 10s. in change: he asked if I had a handkerchief to sell; I said No. Simmonds came by; I asked if he had a handkerchief to sell; he said Yes, and while he was talking to them, a countryman came in; I was engaged with him, but heard Simmonds say, "How did you come by this note? I shall give charge of you." My wife, who was present, said, "Take them down to your own place, and give them in charge," for she herself was very poorly with the fright: he took them to his own shop.

Q. Did you see whether the prisoner had any more money about him? A. He did not seem to have more than a few shillings.

EDWARD BODNUM . I am sixteen years old in February, and live in Gray's Inn-lane. I ran away from my father and mother about the latter end of June, and have supported myself by holding gentlemens' horses; I ran away from them three weeks before this happened. On a Friday, about the 21st of July, I went with the prisoner to Isaacs'; he gave me the 5l. note in the shop; he was with me on the Thursday evening, between five and six o'clock, and said he would have about 20l. in the morning - this was in Cumberland-street, opposite Hyde-park: we had been holding horses all day: I went down into Regent-street with him; he left me in Regent-street, a little way down on the right hand, about nine o'clock in the evening, and told me to stop there till he came back; I did not see him again till between eleven and twelve o'clock, when he was in Regent-street; I asked where he had been so long; he said he had been to Lambeth; he then pulled out a lot of halfpence and showed me, and then he pulled out a 10l. and a 5l. note, two sovereigns, two half-sovereigns, and 18s. in silver. We went out of Regent-street into Oxford-street; he told me next morning that he had got the money from somewhere down by Lambeth, in a court; he said he got into the back window, through a pane; that he left his shoes and stockings down in the kitchen, and went up stairs - that he had worked at the house before, and was turned away through some silver spoons: he said that when he went up stairs, he broke the lock of the desk open, and took this money out of the desk; that there was only one young man slept there, a little bigger than himself; we had been to a brick-field to sleep, and were down in the Bayswater-road all the morning, and in the afternoon he went to Isaacs', and bought a suit of clothes and a handkerchief; he bought a hat in Oxford-street: I went to Isaacs' with him a second time, and bought a suit of clothes for 30s. - I paid a 5l. note, which he gave me in the shop. Simmonds came in, and the prisoner wanted change for a 10l. note; we were taken up about nine o'clock the same night by the watchman - some gentleman gave charge of us; we had gone to the Bayswater-road again. My clothes are at my father's house now; they were on my back when I was taken up. My father works in stables; we had both ran away from our parents at this time.

FRANCIS BRADBURY . I am keeper of Paddington watch-house. The prisoner and Bodnum were brought to the watch-house, on suspicion, on Friday evening, the 20th of July, by one of our watchmen; there was no direct charge against them: I searched them, and found they had every thing on new from top to bottom - I found on Martin a new purse, with a sovereign, and 17s. 6d., a new comb and knife; Bodnum had a new purse, with 15s. 6d., two new combs, and a knife. I asked where they came from: they both said they came from Bristol; I asked how they came by the money, and what they came to London for; Martin said his mother had given him the money to come to town to buy clothes with. I detained them all night, and took them before the Magistrate next morning; they were remanded till Tuesday, and in the meantime I heard Mr. Jones had been robbed. I produce the 10l. note which Simmonds gave me - I have had it ever since.

MR. JONES re-examined. I had dismissed the prisoner, as he was accused of stealing some silver money from a cook-shop; a silver spoon was missing from my premises about a week before I discharged him, and he was charged with it.

ISAAC SIMMONDS . This is the 10l. note.

GEO. NASH . I know this 10l. note by the hand-writing, and the particular way that the address is written on it - I saw it safe about five minutes before eight o'clock on the Thursday evening, when I looked the desk up.

One witness gave the prisoner a good character.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 14.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-6

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1594. LYON LYONS was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of June , 12 yards of woollen cloth, value 10l. 10s.; 96 pairs of long white kid gloves, value 14l., and 9 bills of exchange, for payment of divers sums of money, amounting to 1015l. 8s. 6d. , the property of Matthew Waller .

MR. CRESWELL conducted the prosecution.

HENRY HORDEN . I am clerk to Matthew Waller - he is a woollen manufacturer ; his premises are at No. 19, King-street, Cheapside ; he lived in Bache's-row, City-road, at the time in question. On the evening of Saturday, the 16th of June, I saw the premises locked up between six and seven o'clock - I left them safe; I returned on Monday morning, about half-past eight, and found the premises had been broken into, and sundry cloths had been stolen - they had made an entrance from Cateaton-street; there were no visible marks on the outside of the street door, but they had broken through a door in a passage, which we and another person have access; they had cut a pannel out of the door, and opened it; it was safe on Saturday night. Two desks were broken open, out of which the cash-box was taken. A segar-chest in the warehouse had been broken open, and a few bundles taken out; three gold watches were also taken. The cash-box, contained eight bills of exchange, amounting to above 1000l. I missed fifteen or twenty pieces of woollen cloth, worth about 400l., and twenty dozen pairs of gloves, worth 30l. - they had selected all the fine cloths, and left the coarse behind; they had opened a bottle of wine, drank part of it, and smoked some segars; the remains were left on the premises.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Do you know what part of the property has been found? A. No. The pannel of the door was cut out. I should conceive more than one person must be concerned.

MR. WILLIAM WADHAM COPE . I am a City marshal. I went to search the prisoner's house, No 4, Cock and Hoop-yard, Shoreditch, on the 28th of June - I there found four dozen pairs of gloves, and from six to ten yards of cloth; I showed them to Mr. Waller, who claimed them.

MATTHEW WALLER . These are my property - I have looked at the cloth - there are about eleven yards of it, which is worth about 9l. The gloves are worth 7l. 10s.; I know them by the manufacturer's mark on them - the papers have been exchanged, but I have no doubt of the property; my cash-box contained about 1011l. in bills.

Cross-examined. Q. What is the mark on the gloves? A. They have the letters C. B. stamped within; I do not know the manufacturer's name, but they always put their initials on them; they are a French make - the gloves I lost were marked exactly in this way; some have an arrow stamped on them. I am certain they were made in France, by the way they are stitched; I have not the least doubt of their being mine; all French gloves are not stitched the same way; some are pricked seams, being made with the machine - these are done by hand. I swear positively they are mine.

MR. COPE re-examined. I found the property in the ground floor front room; it is not fitted up at all like a shop - it is a parlour; they were in drawers: the prisoner was in the room, and said he had bought them, but could not exactly recollect of whom; his wife was there, and Forrester and White, the officers; his two daughters came in afterwards and a man who lodged up stairs.

Cross-examined. Q. Was not this on the ground floor? A. Yes - it was a sitting-room; it was no shop at all, nor was there any show of goods outside.

MR. JOHN FROST . I have a warehouse in Coleman-street, and a manufactory at Stroud, in Gloucestershire. I have sold a great many cloths to the prosecutor; I cannot identify these cloths by this light, but I saw them in Mr. Cope's possession, on the 29th of June, at the Mansion-house, and one piece I could particularly swear to, as being my manufacture, and part of what I sold Mr. Walker.

Cross-examined. Q. You cannot be certain it is what you sold him? A. I sold him thirteen pieces, all of which had been damaged in a very peculiar manner, which gave them a very singular appearance on the wrong side; it arose from an accident, in the application of a patent finish in hot water; I recognized them at the Mansion-house by that; other manufacturers apply the patent finish to black cloth; it gave it a very peculiar brown dark appearance on the wrong side; the cloth had been made from a peculiar sort of old fleeces, and had a hair list.

MR. WALLER re-examined. I had no cloth in my warehouse on the 16th of June, but what I had bought of Mr. Frost.

The prisoner put in a written Defence, stating that his infirmity rendered it impossible that he could have committed the robbery, and contending that the property being found in his possession so long after the robbery, ought to do away the suspicion of his guilt, as it must have changed hands several times - that he had purchased the goods of persons whom he did not know; he was prepared to prove that he was a general dealer, and in the habit of attending sales; also that he was at home at the time of the robbery.

HENRY HARRIS . I live at No. 41, Nightingale-lane, and am a general dealer. I have known the prisoner twelve or fourteen years; he had been a general dealer, and frequently attends sales with me - he is in the habit of making purchases there, and I have documents to prove that he has bought goods of me; I have bills to produce of property which I have sold him, which is detained by the officers; it is not the property in question. I called on him three or four days before the 19th of June, to ask him to go to a sale, and he was unwell; I cannot exactly say the day: I saw him on the 17th of June, and then he was very ill indeed.

COURT. Q. What time on the 17th of June did you see him? A. After dinner - he dines about two o'clock; I was about half an hour with him; I do not know that any doctor attended him: he was sitting in a chair - he had been to a sale with me about a month before that, and bought some remnants of cloth and kerseymere; he has attended several sales with me - he attended one at Mr. Bailey's, in Wood-street - I cannot say when that was - I did not take notice.

Q. Will you swear that he was at a sale with you within a month of the goods being found? A. He had been to Bailey's, and to the Auction-mart, with me within two months - I do not know whether he bought any thing.

JOSEPH HART . I have known the prisoner for two years. I have been sitting in Court - I did not hear the witnesses ordered to go out. I boarded with the prisoner

at the time he was taken; he was ill at home on the night of the 16th; he complained of being ill all the day before, and on the 16th he was worse; he appeared ill; I saw him on the 17th; he was worse then. I myself underwent a surgical operation on the 19th of April, and was not out of doors for six weeks afterwards; I was sitting at home, and saw him the whole evening on the 16th of June; I saw him go up to bed about ten o'clock, and saw him come down stairs about nine next morning - I saw him go to bed that night, and saw him the next morning; he was not out of doors till the 19th - he attends sales.

COURT. Q. Is he a very infirm man? A. Yes; I cannot say whether he rides to the sales or not. I sleep in the ground floor back room.

Q. Do any customers come into the front room? A. There are customers come backwards and forwards - I have seen several customers come there for goods; the last time was in June - I cannot say the day; I could not see what was done in the front room when I was in the back, but I have seen persons come and inquire for the prisoner; they came in at the front door.

Q. Why, you had undergone a surgical operation, were you not in bed? A. No - it was only an operation on my hand; I was sitting at the front door. The prisoner slept in the second floor back room.

Q. Then where he was at night you cannot tell? A. He wished me good night, and went up stairs at ten o'clock; he could not come down without my hearing him; it might be four or five months ago that I saw customers come there; I did not see what they purchased, but they came out with a large brown paper parcel; I have seen them several times.

Q. Will you swear you have seen that for the last four or five months? A. I cannot say that I have; I have seen him buy and sell goods about five months ago - that was floor-cloth and ribbons. I was at home when the officers came - I did not see them take any goods; I had not the curiosity to go down stairs; they awoke me when they came; I lay on the prisoner's bed in the day time; I never went to a sale with him, but he has shown me things which he has said he has bought - that was sixteen or seventeen weeks ago.

LEWIS LAZARUS . I have known the prisoner six years - he bore a good character, and is a general dealer.

COURT. Q. What does he deal in? A. Cloth, ribbons, and muslins; his warehouse is in Cock and Hoop-yard, at the house he lives in. I have bought goods of him.

MORDECAI MOSES . I live in Gravel-lane, Houndsditch, and have known the prisoner eighteen years - he is a general salesman, and bore an honest character.

COURT. Q. What does he deal in? A. He attends sales - I saw him at the last Tower sale; I recommended him a customer about four months ago - it was a person who wanted some oil-cloth; I knew he had bought a lot reasonable, and took him there; he laid out a few pounds, and I got a little commission.

SOLOMON LEVY . I live in Crutched-friars, and am a regulator of the course of Exchange. I have known the prisoner above twenty years - he is a general-dealer. I was astonished to hear of this affair, for he always bore an honest character.

COURT. Q. Have you been to his house lately? A. Not for ten years.

- SIMMONS. I am a neighbour of the prisoner's- I have known him seven years. I have seen him carry out things publicly.

COURT. Q. Were you ever in the room where these things were? A. No. I never saw him with gloves or cloth; I have seen floor-cloth taken there openly.

GUILTY . Aged 55.

Transported for Seven Years .(See Sixth Session, page 545.)

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-7

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MR. ADOLPHUS conducted the prosecution.

JOHN THOMAS POCOCK . I am a coal-merchant , at St. Bride's wharf, Whitefriars'. The prisoner has been six or seven years in my employ - his duty was to collect money on my account; he never accounted to me for 3l. 14s. 6d., which was due from John Harris ; his duty was to enter it in his own book, and hand the cash to the clerk; here is his book - there is no entry whatever of that sum in it.

Cross-examined by MR. LAW. Q. I suppose that you reposed confidence in him? A. Yes. He had sold coals on his own account before he came to me, and I believe he brought me three customers; he was in the habit of taking orders. Vender's tickets were not made out in his name since he has been in my service; I allowed him 15l. a-year for the business he brought. I lent him 40l., which he gave me his note of hand for, three or four years ago; I arrested him for that sum about the 23d of March, immediately on my finding that he was doing wrong.

Q. Did you not issue an Habeas against him, on the very day he was going before the Commissioners, to take the benefit of the Insolvent Act? A. My attorney had orders to prosecute him long before that - but I believe he was taken on this charge the day he was going before the Court - he entered in the book the figures of the money he received; my son kept the other side of the book - the money was to be paid every night.

Q. Was it not his custom to deduct his salary from the money he so received? A. No; he had to collect some small rents for me, and in one or two instances where he owed money to persons who owed me accounts - he here said "I owe so much to the baker, and you must take that, as having been received by me;" I did not allow him to stop money which he had received against his salary - he always paid the cash to my son.

Q. Was he not in the habit of stopping so much as being due to him? A. No; he has been paid out of the rent money - as that was about enough to pay him; if he had not received sufficient rent money to make up his salary I paid him the difference, but that was confined to money received for weekly rents.

Q. After he was in custody, did you not go to him to make up his account? A. Yes; I had then only arrested him; I told him there was something wrong in his account. I did not require an account from him, but he sent to the wharf to say he would make up his account - we said we did not want it, for we had found it out ourselves - he, however, sent an account, which I produce - the sum in question is entered here; this account was furnished after

we took him on the criminal charge - he was brought here three or four months ago; he would not be tried one Session, and the next I was out of town - he had notice before he was brought here, that we were going to prosecute him, and the witnesses' names were given to him - when I arrested him I had no idea of the extent this had gone to, till we went round to the customers; he was arrested on the 23d of March, and brought here - I did not like to have the trouble of taking the weekly rent, so I let that be till I paid his salary - I gave him 15l. a-year instead of his selling on his own account; he charged his expenses at the end of the half year, and I paid him - he entered in the book whatever he received, and gave my son the money; but if he drew bills he gave them to me, as they required my indorsement - the cash account was balanced every night - when I speak of an account between us, I mean the rent account; I gave him a house to live in, as part of his salary. I had frequently to give him 2l. or 4l. when we settled - I am sorry to say that he has seven children - he bore a good character and is a clever man.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Ought there to be entered in this book the sum of money which he received on one side, and your son enters on the other side what he has paid? A. Yes; he had two guineas a week, a house to live in, and coals; and he charged his public-house expenses - the account he has sent me, is in his own hand-writing; some of the sums he has entered have been received two or three years back - none of them have been paid to me; this amount of Harris is among them - here is upwards of 200l. on this paper. I have received none of it, nor is any of it entered in his book - he was to take his salary entirely from the money received for rent; if he received more rent than was due to him, he paid me the balance, and if at the end of half a year it was less, I paid him the difference. After I had discovered several sums which had been received, he sent this account; I suppose about 2000l. a year might pass through his hands - Harris was not one of the customers he brought me.

JOHN HARRIS . I am a buckle chafe maker. I deal with Mr. Pocock for coals; and on the 1st of November I paid the prisoner, on his account, three sovereigns, half-a-guinea, and 4s.; he gave me this receipt for it - (read). I saw him write it.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you any recollection in what coin you paid him? A. I know there were three sovereigns, half-a-guinea, and 4s., and I recollect his remarking that I had given him sixpence short - I said No; that was half-a-guinea, and he looked at it again.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. It was a good deal of money for you to pay? A. Yes; I seldom pay so much away.

LEWIS POCOCK . I am the prosecutor's son. I am not in partnership with him; I am cashier - it was the prisoner's duty to enter in this book what sums he received - I enter on the other side the cash he pays; he never accounted to me for 3l. 14s. 6d. received from Harris - I remember this account being sent to my father; we knew of the deficiencies before that.

Cross-examined. Q. How was he to make up any expences he had incurred? A. He was allowed that every half year; he was supposed to pay the expenses out of the money received.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Would the account be regularly balanced if he kept money back? A. No; his expenses might amount to 20l. or 30l. in a half-year - the account of deficiencies which he sent in amount to 200l. - we have discovered more since.

MR. LAW. Q. Beside this 200l. here is 42l. under the head of "liabilities?" A. That is my hand-writing - he calls those persons his friends, and he had sold them goods in his own name; that money is included in the 200l.; but then he says, we can get that from them again - it appears he has given them a receipt in his own name.

The prisoner read a long address to the Court, stating that he had been under considerable pecuniary embarrassments; but although he was accused of embezzlement, he trusted it would appear it was nothing more than a matter of account; he had never intended to defraud his master of one farthing, never having misapplied a sum with a criminal intention, but only considered it as debt.

GUILTY . Aged 50.

Transported for Fourteen Years .

13th September 1827
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Second Middlesex Jury - before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

1596. WILLIAM WATSON was indicted for stealing, on the 18th of July , at St. Paul, Shadwell , 1 gelding, price, 36l.; 1 saddle, value 3l. 10s.; 1 bridle, value 12s., and 1 martingale, value 10s. , the property of Richard Peck .

MR. BRODRICK conducted the prosecution.

RICHARD PECK . I am a corn-dealer , and live at Ford, in Middlesex. On Wednesday, the 18th of July, about two o'clock in the day, I stopped with my bay gelding at the Jolly Sailors public-house , Shadwell; I had been offered 36l. for it - it had a saddle and bridle on. When I got off the horse a little boy came up, and offered to hold it, but immediately after, the prisoner came and offered to hold it - he came up, and said, "Shall I hold your horse?" I hesitated for a moment, and he asked a second time - and thinking he had better have it, it being a spirited animal, I put the reins into his hand, taking it from the boy; I told him to take care of it - he said, "I will take great care of it, Sir;" I went into the house, and in less than five minutes heard an alarm; I came out, and saw a great dust in the road; the horse was gone; I went after it, but could not overtake it. I received information from the witness Hitchcock. The prisoner was taken into custody in about five weeks - I was with the officer when he was taken, and said to him, "You are the man who held my horse;" he said, "Yes, Sir;" he said he was the man. I have not seen the horse, saddle, or bridle since.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. He did not hesitate to acknowledge he was the person who held the horse? A. No; he said at once that he was the man - he said nothing in my presence about a man named Dean; I have heard of Dean, but not through the prisoner.

OSWALD CHARLES HITCHCOCK . I live with my father, at No. 46, John-street, St. George's in the East. On the 18th of July I was near the Jolly Sailors, and saw the prisoner holding a horse; a man named Thomas Dean came up to him, and said something, which I could not hear; I was three or four yards from them; Dean spoke in a low tone; I heard him murmur something, but could

not hear what he said - Dean then got on the horse, and rode away on it, and the prisoner ran down the next turning as hard as he could run - the prisoner gave the horse to Dean, but ran himself, in quite a contrary direction; he made no effort to stop Dean. I saw Mr. Peck come out of the house, and told him directly - I knew the prisoner and Dean before; I have seen them several times in company together, two or three times; I knew both their persons perfectly well.

Cross-examined. Q. How do you get your living? - A. I work at my father's business, he is a mathematical instrument maker; he does not live a quarter of a mile from the Jolly Sailors; it was about two o'clock; I was going to buy some dog's meat at the time; the horse did not stand at the Jolly Sailors, but four or five yards further on; the dog's meat shop is close to where the horse stood; I saw Mr. Peck' run out, and told him directly that I had seen the horse rode off by Dean and the prisoner, in quite a contrary road; I was not on the opposite side of the way; I knew the prisoner when he lived at the baker's, but never spoke to him; I cannot say that he knew me: I have seen him passing the end of our street, and seen him at Dean's house; Dean keeps a public-house; I went there once to throw for a looking-glass; I did not hear Dean ask the prisoner to let him have a ride - I swear that.

CHARLES SCOTT . I am a butcher. I was coming by the Jolly Sailors, and saw the prisoner holding the horse; I did not see any body go up to him, but afterwards saw Dean on the horse, walking; and, as I knew him, I spoke to him; he directly rode off as fast as he could go - I knew both him and the prisoner before - I have seen them together several times, and know they were acquainted.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you see Hitchcock there? - No; the horse was walking when I saw Dean on it; the prisoner was holding it when I passed; I went to buy some wood for a pig-sty, and as I came back, Dean passed me on the horse.

COURT. Q. You saw the prisoner holding the horse, was that as you went to get the wood? A. Yes, and as I came back I saw Dean on it; he was not above a hundred yards from the house - he was walking then.

WILLIAM DIGHT . I am an egg-merchant, and live in Back-road, Whitechapel, four doors from the Jolly Sailors. I saw the prisoner holding the horse at the corner of the Jolly Sailors; he brought it from there opposite to my door - I do not know the man; another man came up, and the man who had the horse said, "Get up;" the man got up, and rode off as fast as he could go, and the other man ran away in a different direction; the man rode away on a canter; I was standing at my door, and did not go from the house.

Cross-examined. Q. Did not the man gallop away as fast as he could go? A. Yes; he galloped away on a canter; I was standing at my door all the time - it made a dust on the road.

WILLIAM COLLINSON . I live in Wellington-place, Back-road, Shadwell, near the Jolly Sailors. I saw Mr. Peck get off his horse, and give it to a boy to hold; the prisoner came up, and said, "Let me hold it?" Mr. Peck at last gave it to him, and went in; I went in, and had a glass of ale; I heard an alarm, ran out, and saw nothing of the horse.

Cross-examined. Q. You did not see it rode away? - A. No; I saw the mob running in all directions.

JAMES KINGGETT . I saw the prisoner holding the horse - my eye was off it for two minutes, and when I looked up again it was gone.

JOSHUA ARMSTRONG . I am an officer. I apprehended the prisoner on the 24th of August, in Charles-street, near the Jolly Sailors; he said he lodged there; I had been looking after him several times, and have been some hundred miles to look for Dean.

Cross-examined. Q. You had been after him several times, was it not on this charge? A. Yes; I never saw him before. Mr. Peck said he was the man who held the horse, and he said "I did hold it."

Prisoner's Defence. (written.) I am innocent of the charge of stealing the horse. I was unfortunately the person who had it to hold while the prosecutor stopped at the public-house; and, to my great misfortune, I was brought up in the same neighbourhood with Dean, who rode off with it. He came up, and asked me to let him have a ride up and down the street, which I did, and walked by the side of him; I requested him to return back as the gentleman would be angry; he immediately rode off at full speed, and I have not seen the horse or Dean since. When the officer came to apprehend me, I said I was the person who held the horse, and gave them my name. I did not know he was going to ride away with it.

One witness gave the prisoner a good character.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 19.

13th September 1827
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1597. MARY WITTENBACK was indicted for the wilful murder of Frederick Wittenback , her husband .

MESSRS. ADOLPHUS and QUIN conducted the prosecution.

AMELIA DAVIS . I am the wife of James Davis , who is a scale-maker, and lives in Brill-place, Somers'-town. The prisoner and her husband lodged in my house; they had three daughters; two are married, and one worked out of the house. On Saturday, the 21st of July, about ten minutes past twelve o'clock, I remember the deceased coming home to his dinner; he appeared quite in good health; the prisoner came to me about half-past twelve o'clock, and brought a piece of pudding on a plate; she said Wittenback was very sick and bad, and she thought he was poisoned; she asked me if I thought the pudding looked as if there was anything in it. I went down stairs with something of my own, and when I came up again, I entreated her to go down to her husband; she said she could not, for she was as bad as he was: I said, "I thought you said you did not eat any of it yourself:" she said she had eaten it while I had been down stairs; she had eaten it all. I said, "What! eat it when you said your husband was poisoned?" she said I was a liar, for she never said she had poisoned him at all: nothing further passed. I asked her to take a tub down stairs with her; she said she could not then, whatever she did the next time: she then went down to vomit; she came up, and went down again with the tub; she said she had been down to vomit as she was so bad; I then saw the deceased coming up stairs; he appeared very bad, indeed; he could scarcely crawl up - she could hear what passed between him and me very plainly; she was in her room, sitting in a chair,

near the door, which is close to the landing - I was close to the door, standing on the landing; he was coming up the stairs - it is a very small straight stair-case - I am sure she could hear what passed. I said, "Oh! Mr. Wittenback, what is the matter?" he said, "Oh! Mrs. Davis, I am very bad - I think I am poisoned;" and that he thought he was done for; that is all that passed then; I saw him vomiting; directly after that, Mrs. Sanders, the landlady, put him to bed; the prisoner was then sitting in a chair in the same room, vomiting; she said she was very bad, and that they were both poisoned; she laid down on the bed; I saw the deceased afterwards, trying to get out of his room, to go down stairs, but he could not: my husband fetched Mr. Jackson's assistant, and he administered an emetic to him - he still continued very sick: I left the room, and went to him again; just before four o'clock he called out dreadfully for help; he called me and Mrs. Sanders to rub his legs, as they were in such dreadful pain; when we got near the bed, we felt timid at rubbing them; he said, "Oh, dear, Mrs. Davis and Mrs. Sanders, are you both here?" we said Yes; he said, "Never mind my legs, for I am stone blind, I cannot see." His youngest daughter, Charlotte, was present, and went for Dr. Dillon. I proposed that Mr. Walford should be fetched; the prisoner said,"Don't fetch him, he is so dear;" I said I dare say her father would pay him when he got better, but he was not fetched: two gentlemen came from Mr. Dillon; he dozed while they were gone for; I was not present when they came. I was not in the room again till about seven o'clock, when my husband gave him some pills, which he took. The prisoner and her husband did not live exactly on very good terms, from what I have heard.

Q. It is understood that the deceased vomitted in the yard, do you know anything that took place afterwards in the yard? A. Mrs. Sanders' cat was afterwards very bad, and died; I did not see it partake of what had been vomitted, but I saw it in the yard: when the prisoner brought the pudding to me, she said it was a suet one - I asked where she bought the flour; she said of Mr. Smith. I heard her daughter Charlotte at home till about eleven o'clock, and she came home again after her father was bad - I saw nobody about the house except those I have named.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. She said she bought the flour at Smith's - did you know Smith? A. Yes; I know he sold flour: Mr. Jackson was first sent for about half-past one o'clock; the deceased came home to dinner about ten minutes past twelve o'clock - it was full half-past twelve when I saw the prisoner - it was a goodish bit of pudding she had in the plate - it appeared part of a suet pudding - it was about a quarter to one o'clock when I saw the deceased on the stairs; my husband was down stairs, in Mrs. Sanders' workshop, and could not hear what I said to the deceased - I am sure I have stated the very words that passed; nobody was in the house besides the deceased, the prisoner, my husband, myself, and Mrs. Sanders, who was behind, helping the deceased up stairs, when I had the conversation with him. I told her what had passed between me and the prisoner when the deceased was in bed.

Q. Why did you not send for a medical man as soon as you heard the prisoner make the disclosure to you? A. I went down and spoke to my husband about his being bad; he went and asked him if he should fetch somebody - that was before I saw him on the stairs - the prisoner did not seem at all alarmed when she came to me with the pudding - I did not perceive any alarm at that time - it was about five minutes afterwards that she said she had eaten the rest.

COURT. Q. Did you see the husband vomiting in the yard? A. No; but I heard him, dreadfully.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. When you returned up stairs, did you see any pudding left in the plate? A. No; but I did not go into her room then; I was very much confused when I heard her say she thought her husband was poisoned.

Q. When you came up did not she appear to be labouring under the effects of poison? A. I did not perceive that she did, any further than what she said herself; she was spitting in a tub, and complaining of sickness - I saw a little froth come out of her mouth, that was all - there are only two rooms on a floor; the stair-case parts my room from theirs; she was sitting inside her room at the time the conversation passed on the stairs, with the pot in her lap; saying she was very sick - she appeared to be labouring under the effects of what she had eaten; we put her husband to bed directly - he could not stand - and she said she was unable to make the bed; they are poor people - it would be an object to them to have a cheap medical man.

JAMES DAVIS . I am the last witness's husband, and lived in the same house with the deceased. I never heard him mention his name; but his fellow-workmen always called him Jem - I was at the window and saw him retching in the yard, as I looked through Mrs. Sanders's workshop window - my wife had been down to me previously; I went out to him in about three quarters of an hour - I said to him "You are very bad, and had better have a doctor;" he did not answer immediately, but said, in a few minutes,"I am; fetch me a doctor, if you please;" I went to Mr. Jackson's shop, which is about one hundred yards off - his young man came back with me; the deceased was then lying on the bed up stairs - I returned with the young man, who gave me an emetic, which I administered - it operated considerably, and after that I went to Brompton, on business.

Q. Did you see what come from his stomach in the yard? A. Yes; and I saw the cat eat of it, it turned sick almost immediately - this was before the emetic had been administered; I afterwards buried what had come from him, in the dust-heap - this was before I went to Brompton; I returned between seven and eight o'clock, and saw the deceased on the bed - the stomach-pump was being applied; he seemed much the same as when I first left him; he was very ill indeed; the gentleman gave me a box of pills, two of which I gave him about four hours after the pump had been applied - when I asked him to take them, he said he was just the same as if he had been in liquor, for his head rolled about - I had great difficulty in getting him to take the pills; he died, at twenty minutes past three o'clock in the morning - he did not work with me, but I have heard his fellow-workmen, as they passed, call him Jem whether that was his name, I cannot say.

HANNAH SANDERS . I keep the house in Brill-row, Somers'-town. The prisoner and her husband lived at our house for about five months - his name was Frederick. On the 21st of July, at a quarter-past twelve o'clock, I saw

him come home to dinner he passed me at the door, and seemed very well indeed - he went up stairs. I saw him again at about twenty minutes before one, retching violently in the yard; I went to him, and asked what was the matter; he said he was very ill, through eating pudding for dinner; I asked if he felt ill before he came home - he said No; he never felt better in his life than he had that morning - I asked if he would have assistance - he said Yes; and Mr. Davis was sent for; the deceased went up stairs, I followed him up; he begged that his bed should be made - I asked the prisoner to make it; she said she could not, she was as had as him - I made the bed and helped him on it; I know they had pudding for dinner, because, as I was passing into the opposite room, I saw the prisoner with a saucepan in one hand; lifting the pudding into a plate - I saw it smoking. I was not in the room, but only peeping - their daughter had gone out about eleven o'clock that morning; she had been at home altering a spencer till then - the prisoner had come into my room between ten and eleven o'clock, to borrow a washing-tub, which I lent her; she was talking about where she had been at work in the week, and said her husband expected 10s. that night, but she wished he might get it, and she said the girl was at home altering a spencer, expecting to wear it to-morrow, "but" said she, "she little thinks what I have got in my head." I do not know what terms the deceased and the prisoner lived on - I never heard a word between them. I saw my cat go into the yard and eat some of the pudding which the deceased had vomited; it retched directly afterwards and crawled over the wall of the next garden - I saw it dead afterwards.

Cross-examined. Q. How soon after the cat went over the wall did you see it? A. In the evening; Mr. Wright and another person went over and fetched it - it ate the pudding between one and two o'clock; the workmen used to call the deceased Jem - I only know that his name was Frederick, because the girl said so when the inquest was summoned,

JURY. Q. How many rooms are there in your house? A. Four; I let one to the prisoner, and another to Davis; there is no kitchen for them, they only use their own room; the prisoner and her husband slept and lived in one room; Davis lives in the other room on the same floor.

CHARLOTTE WITTENBACK . I am the prisoner's daughter; my father's name was Frederick. I left home about twenty minutes or half-past eleven o'clock on the day he died - I had nothing to do with preparing the dinner - there was nobody at home but my mother and myself.

HENRY HUDSON JACKSON . I am assistant to Mr. Jackson, a surgeon; he lives in Brewer-street - he was sent for on the 21st of July; I went, in his absence, to Brill-place, Somers'-town, and found the deceased retching very much, but he did not throw anything up - he complained of a pain in his stomach - I took a man back with me, and sent him a strong emetic, ordering him to drink copiously of warm water - the emetic was four grains of tartar of emetic, and sixteen grains of ipecacuhana powder - there was nothing in that to have occasioned his death; I mixed it.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you administer anything to the woman? A. No.

CHARLES WILLIAM WRIGHT . I am house-surgeon at St. Pancras workhouse. I attended the deceased on Saturday evening, the 21st of July, about half-past seven o'clock; he had been vomiting considerably, and complained of great pain and a burning at the pit of his stomach; his symptoms accorded with what he stated; he complained of a twisting round the naval - I considered he had taken something of a poisonous nature, which acted on his stomach; the prisoner was also sick, and retching violently - I used the stomach-pump to them both; the stomach was emptied of its contents - I remained with the deceased till nine o'clock, and saw him again about eleven - I could not ascertain what the poisonous matter was; I opened the stomach after his death; it was inflamed, and the inner membrane softened - I should consider that was produced by some mineral poison; they are symptons of mineral poison.

Cross-examined. Q. I presume you have been some years in the profession? A. Ten years. I observed accurately the state of both of them; it is possible, that if I had been there earlier, further relief might have been given - it is likely his life might have been saved; they both appeared to labour under similar symptoms - I should think, if I had not used the pump to her, she would have been a corpse.

COURT. Q. I understand the symptoms were described to you, and you opened his stomach? A. Yes - I used two tests to the contents of the stomach, but was unable to find any traces of arsenic or any other poison; an operative chemist has had the contents of the stomach, he is not here - I could not obtain that which was buried.

COURT. Q. Supposing death to have been occasioned by arsenic administered so late as the pudding was, and death to have followed so soon, must not the traces of arsenic be visible? A. The stomach had been so completely emptied that there were no traces - I tried two tests on what I call the scraping of the stomach, which I extracted when I opened it; the cramp in the leg, and the loss of sight, are both symptoms of the parts being affected by mineral poison; it is possible, that the stomach may be so completely washed out, as to have no traces of poison, and that more so since the use of the pump, but generally some portion adheres to the coat of the stomach - I cannot swear that he did die of poison, or that he did not; but from all the symptoms, I believe that he did die of poison.

JURY. Q. Had the man's stomach been disordered in a natural way, and a powerful emetic administered, would that have left the stomach as you describe? A. There are some emetics that would produce inflammation of the stomach, and had there been any existing inflammation at the time, it would certainly have increased it; but that would not have caused the cramp or the loss of sight. On some constitutions, three grains of tartar emetic would produce inflammation; the stomach of a hard working man, used to drink, is less liable to excitement.

COURT. Q. What is the specific action of mineral poison on the stomach? A. It produces inflammation of the stomach and intestines, depression of nervous energy, heat, pain throughout the whole alimentay canal, and general debility of the whole system; there will be a partial inflammation of the coats of the stomach; very frequently there will be only patches of inflammation here and there, and that was the case here; the emetic administered is not too powerful in a case of poison; four grains of tartar emetic would be a large dose, if there were no poison.

GARRETT DILLON . I am out-door surgeon of St. Pancras parish. I was called in to the prisoner, between one and two o'clock in the morning of the 22d of July; the man at that time was almost in a dying state, constantly vomiting and purging; the pupils of his eyes were dilated, and his extremities quite cold - I continued with him till half-past two o'clock; it was my opinion that the symptoms were produced by mineral poison being taken into the stomach; every symptom was conformable to that idea; I was not present when his body was opened - I found it necessary to remove the prisoner to the infirmary at two o'clock on Sunday afternoon, as her symptoms were then very similar to what his had been; her extremities were cold, the pupils of her eyes dilated: she vomited and purged: her pulse was scarcely to be felt at her wrist - I had great apprehensions for the safety of her life; she did not say how she came so - I did not think it necessary to use the pump at that time - I told her my opinion of her state; she said she would rather die than recover - I asked her if she had taken any poison, or what, that I might the more easily get at the means of relief; she denied having taken any; she would certainly have died, if strong means had not been used to save her.

Cross-examined. Q. Was not the stomach-pump, in your opinion, a violent means to have recourse to? A. I do not think it a violent recourse in experienced hands; the emetic was a strong dose; but it is what is very often prescribed: it might produce inflammation in some cases, but in the majority of cases it would not - I have not had much experience in the stomach-pump; it might produce inflammation if used roughly, and in an injudicious way.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Supposing a person to have been vomiting for three quarters of an hour, to have the cramp and loss of sight, would the emetic administered be too strong a dose? A. Certainly not.

HENRY HUTCHINGS . I am one of the beadles of St. Pancras. After the inquest had been held, I took the prisoner to Newgate, in a chariot, on a warrant - Ley, another beadle, was with me - I had some conversation with her - I did not lead her to suppose that it would be better or worse for her, if she said any thing, or hold out either threat or promise to her in the least - I said to her, "You are aware of the situation in which you are placed" - she said, "Yes, I am" - I said, "Do you know where you are going," - she said "Yes, to Newgate" - I then said,"Don't you think you are a wicked woman for what you have done, and are you not sorry for it" - "Yes, I am," she said - I asked her what was the stuff which she bought; she said it was a white powder - I asked where she bought it; she said on the left hand side of Islington-road, between the Angel and Islington church, at a druggists or chemists - I then asked what it was put into; she said, a brown paper, - I asked her if it was asked what purpose it was for; she said for poisoning rats - I then asked, what quantity she thought there was, if it was a tea spoonful; she said "Yes, and much more" - the conversation ended here.

Cross-examined. Q. How long have you been a beadle? A. Five years. I have been a parish officer sixteen years; I did not tell her what she would say might be given in evidence against her; I put the questions, and she answered them - I gave her no warning; she appeared quite collected. I did not say that I knew all about it, or any thing of the sort; I have told you every word that I said, as near as I can recollect; Ley did not say that he knew all about it, or a word of the sort, nor did he warn her that it would be given in evidence against her.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Did Ley join in the conversation? A. I believe he did speak one word or two, not more.

COURT. Q. Did you ever go to the Islington-road, to make inquiry? A. Ley and I went into two or three chemists' shops on the left-hand side of the road, but we could learn nothing. I should think the distance between the Angel and the church is half a mile or better.

WALTER LEY . I am beadle of St. Pancras. On the 24th of July I accompanied Hutchings to Newgate with the prisoner - I did not hold out either threat or promise to her; he asked how she could be the woman to commit herself in the way she had; she sighed, and said she was sorry for what she had done; he asked what it was that she had bought - she said it was white powder; he asked where she got it; she said at a druggist's or chemist's, between the Angel and Islington-church, and in the way we asked if she thought where she was going to - she said Yes, she was going to Newgate; that is all I remember: we have been to all the shops between the Angel and the church, and below the church. We inquired at about five shops, and could not learn any thing.

Cross-examined. Q. Was the question, "how she could be the woman to commit herself in such a way?" A. Yes, something to that effect; I think I said, "It is a shocking thing you should commit yourself in the way you have;" that was after Hutchings asked how she could be the woman to commit herself in such a way; he asked if she was sorry for her situation. I have been an officer of St. Pancras some years; I did not tell her what she said would be given in evidence - I only asked how she could commit herself so; she was quite collected in her answers, but was in a weak state, being affected at her situation.

Q. Was she not in a most depressed state of mind and body? A. Yes.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Was she in such a state of mind as prevented her from understanding the questions, and answering them? A. She gave reasonable answers to my questions, and understood them.

COURT. Q. Were you with Hutchings all the time in the chariot? A. Yes, all the way from the workhouse to Newgate; I do not recollect any thing more that passed.

MR. DILLON. Arsenic in powder is white; corrosive sublimate is also white.

The prisoner handed in a written paper, which stated there was nothing to criminate her, except what she stated when deprived of reason, from having eaten of the same food as her husband, and that it was impossible she should have eaten of the pudding had she known that it contained poison.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 41.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-10
VerdictGuilty > manslaughter

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Before Mr. Baron Vaughan.

1598. JOHN DONOVAN was indicted for the wilful murder of Ephraim Darkin .

MR. QUIN conducted the prosecution.

HANNAH GRAY . On the 24th of July, about one o'clock in the night, I was in Whitechapel-road , and met the prisoner at the corner of Court-street, Whitechapel-road - he

asked where I was going - I said, seeking my husband; he said "Oh, I have got a shilling or a sixpence;" he wanted to get me into some lonesome place; he asked me to go; I refused - I saw him again, as God would have it- I happened to meet him again about two o'clock; he knew me again, and spoke to me; I thought if I could see a watchman, he would see me home - I saw a watchman , and spoke to him, to take care of me: the prisoner did not hear what I said - the watchman then went with me towards home. The prisoner immediately flung a great stone at the watchman - there was nobody else to heave it but him; there had been no conversation between him and the watchman; I spoke to the watchman just by Baker's-row - the prisoner did not hear what I said, as I whispered; he was standing at a short distance; I walked by the side of the watchman to near Whitechapel workhouse, about ten yards - the prisoner was behind, about three yards from me - another man was walking just before us: we continued walking on, with the watchman behind, till we came to the workhouse; the watchman did not speak to the prisoner, he only said, "Let the poor woman go home;" the prisoner never said a word, but directly flung a stone - I did not see it thrown - he could hear the watchman say let the woman go home; the stone then immediately came at the watchman, and knocked him right down; I did not see the prisoner throw it, as my back was towards him; I heard it rattle, turned round, and saw the watchman on the ground; we were almost side by side, but he was rather behind me.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Was it not a very short time from the time the watchman came up till he fell? A. It might be ten minutes; it began and ended in ten minutes. I never saw the prisoner before - he was as sober as a Judge; it was about two o'clock, and a very fine night.

COURT. Q. Was it moonlight? A. Yes, my Lord, and there are gaslights in the street; I happened to be out - I was looking after a person I wished to see.

Q. Did you hear the prisoner say any thing before he threw the stone? A. He never said a word, and the watchman never said a word; he never spoke afterwards - the stone was flung directly he said, "Let her go home"- there was a gentleman before me, who picked up the stone; I could see him: he could not have thrown the stone without my seeing him, as he was walking before me; there was nobody else in the street on that side of the way. The prisoner ran away directly the stone was flung - he ran down the road behind us. I was quite sober - I had not tasted a glass of liquor that evening.

Q. Had you complained of him to the watchman? A. I only asked him to see me home.

JAMES HENRY DOLEMAN . I am a silk-weaver. On the morning of the 24th of July, about two o'clock, or rather after, I was in Whitechapel-road - I saw the prisoner and the deceased there, and Mrs. Gray was walking towards Whitechapel; I was coming from Mile-end, and was about six yards before them - Gray was walking rather first, the deceased next, and the prisoner behind - they arrived nearly at the end of the workhouse, and then all three stopped; I stopped, standing before them; the deceased said to the woman, "You had better follow that man (meaning me) and then you will be safe" - the woman then said to the prisoner, "You go about your business;" the prisoner answered, "He shall not follow you," meaning that the watchman should not follow her; he had both his hands behind him - he took his left hand from behind him, and immediately threw a stone at the watchman - I saw the stone, and saw him throw it at the watchman, who was about two yards or two yards and a half from him - it struck him rather above the left ear, towards the temple; he directly fell forward on his face, and the prisoner ran away directly - he appeared quite sober; I directly ran after him, hallooing Stop thief! a young man stopped him at the end of the road, and delivered him up to me - I never lost sight of him. I and the other young man delivered him up to the watchman directly; I afterwards assisted in conveying the deceased to the Hospital; he was in a very bad state, bleeding at the left ear, very fast. I never heard him speak after he was knocked down.

Cross-examined. Q. Was it a bright moonlight night? A. It was after two o'clock - day was beginning to break, and it was very light from the gaslights - I could see him by the lamps; I did not notice whether there was any moon; it was nearly half-past two o'clock; the woman was nearer to the watchman than me, and he spoke to her - I had no conversation with the prisoner, but he appeared quite sober. I do not know whether he and the watchman were at all acquainted; it did not last above five or six minutes altogether.

COURT. Q. Did you hear the watchman say anything to the prisoner? A. Not at all. I saw his hands behind him - he did not stoop; he could not stoop to pick up the stone at that time without my seeing him; he could not have taken it up while I was there, or I must have seen him; he was rather behind the deceased.

ROBERT STRATTON . I am a hackney-coachman, and was in Whitechapel-road on the morning of the 24th of July, a little after two o'clock, at the corner of St. Mary's-street, against the post (it joins the workhouse;) I saw the prisoner walking up the road with the deceased and the woman; Doleman was before them - they walked within seventeen or eighteen yards of me, by the workhouse - I I heard nobody speak; I saw the prisoner throw the stone with his left hand; the watchman immediately fell; the prisoner turned round after throwing the stone, and ran away; I pursued him - a person stopped him before I got up to him, but I never lost sight of him. When I got up he asked if I could swear he was the man who threw the stone - I said I could; he said nothing further. I assisted in conveying him to the watch-house, and the deceased to the hospital. Doleman got up to him before me - it was getting towards light - the day was breaking. The prisoner seemed perfectly sober.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you much opportunity of seeing whether he was sober or not? A. Yes; I saw him in the watch-house; I did not notice him before - it might last four or five minutes altogether.

MOSES MOSES . I am a dealer in fruit, and was in Whitechapel-road on the morning of the 24th of July, between two and three o'clock; I heard a cry of Stop him! Stop him! I went towards the road, to see if I could see any one running, and saw a man running from the workhouse, across the road, in a direction for the New-road - I instantly ran across the road, and secured him; he resisted

very much, and said, "Let me go - it was not me - it was not me;" that was all he said - it was the prisoner. I went afterwards with him to the the watch-house, and saw the deceased.

Cross-examined. Q. How far was the last witness from him? A. I saw nobody near him till somebody came to my assistance; I just looked round me; I did not look to see if any one was near - my attention was to secure the prisoner - I delivered him to Doleman.

COURT. Q. Did you see anybody beside the prisoner in the street? A. Not running. When I laid hold of him I saw nobody near him; Doleman came up in two minutes or a minute and a half; there was nothing to obstruct my view down the street; Baker's-row is not far from the workhouse - I could see very plainly from that distance; he was stopped at the corner of the New-road, opposite to Baker's-row, about fifty yards from the workhouse.

JOSEPH SYKES . I am a watchman of Whitechapel. - On the morning of the 24th of July, I was standing at the end of Great Garden-street, in Whitechapel-road, and heard a call of Stop thief! I ran up to where the deceased lay - I was then desired to follow the prisoner, which I did, to the corner of Cannon-street-road; when I got there he was custody - two or three men had hold of him; we brought him back by where the deceased lay, and a man sung out, "Look out for the stone;" as I came by, my foot kicked the stone - I picked it up within about two yards of where the deceased lay, and put it into my pocket; I delivered it to the officer afterwards - I looked at it at the watch-house - I saw no blood nor dirt upon it, but did not examine it close enough for that - it appeared to have been carried about for some time: it had no dust nor any thing on it, nor dirt or mud. The streets were quite dry. The prisoner did not appear the least in liquor. The deceased's name was Ephraim Darkin .

Cross-examined. Q. If there had been dirt or mud on the stone, must you have seen it? A. I dare say I must; there were candles on the watch-house table where it lay, it was within a quarter of a yard of the candle; when I came to examine it at the office I saw a small spot of blood, but I did not examine it minutely before.

COURT. Q. Was there any heap of stones near there? - A. No; we went out to look; I picked it up on the pavement, just at the edge; there was blood on the flags.

THOMAS BROWN . I am a patrol of Whitechapel, and was at the watch-house on the morning of the 24th of July, when the prisoner was brought in; Sykes delivered the stone at the watch-house; it has been in my possession ever since, and is in the same state now as it was then - there is a spot of blood on it; there was more on it, but being handled has taken a little of it off. [Here the witness produced the stone, which was a large flint, about nine inches in circumference.]

MR. PHILLIPS to JOSEPH SYKES . Q. You say there was blood on the flags? A. Yes; I had not put my hand down into the blood - I did not see it there till I returned from the watch-hosue; the deceased was about five yards from the stone - they had turned him round; it might be four or five yards from the blood, which was nearer to his feet, as they had turned him round - I examined, but could find no loose stones near the place - the road is M'Adamized.

JURY. Q. Is not Baker's-row paved with this sort of stons? A. I do not know.

ALFRED HAMILTON . I am a pupil at the London Hospital. On Tuesday morning, the 24th of July, the deceased was brought there - he was completely insensible; his feet and legs were cold, and his pulse fluttering - he was evidently dying when he came in; he had one bruise on the forehead, and one above the left ear; there was a severe bruise on the forehead, and a considerable swelling - he lived about three hours; after his death I examined the head; there was a fracture of the skull, passing from about the left ear, across the base of the skull, to the right ear; there was from a pint to a pint and a half of extravasated blood on the brain - the blow above the ear was the cause of his death.

Cross-examined. Q. There was a severe blow in front of the skull? A. Yes; as if it had come in contact with some hard substance - as if he had fallen with cousiderable violence - that was only a bruise, and would not affect his life - the skin was not broken.

COURT. Q. Can you form a judgment how the blow above the left ear had been occasioned? A. By something striking the head; a large heavy stone, like that produced, would do it, I should think; his merely falling down would not produce such a fracture; I am satisfied his death could not arise from the fall, but from the violence applied to the head.

Prisoner's Defence. I know nothing about the concern, no more than a child unborn.

GEORGE WICKERBY . I have known the prisoner about twenty years. I keep the Crooked Billet public-house, in Rosemary-lane - he called there at half-past eleven o'clock on the evening of the 23d of July; there was a club-meeting there - he did not stay five minutes; he appeared to be very drunk indeed.

MR. QUIN. Q. How long have you kept this house? A. Since the 5th of May; he was very drunk - he could not walk; a man helped him down out of my house - I would not serve him with any liquor.

JOHN KELLY . I was at the Crooked Billet on the 23d of July; I saw the prisoner there between ten and eleven o'clock; he appeared a little elevated in liquor.

GUILTY. Aged 27.

Of Manslaughter only . - Transported for Life .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-11
VerdictNot Guilty

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1599. MARY ANNE DOVE and ELIZABETH DOVE were indicted for breaking and entering the shop of George David Hobson and John Hobson , on the 6th of August , and stealing therein various lengths of linen cloth, valentia, jeans, marcella, buttons, and other articles, amounting in value to 246l. 6s. 6d. , their property.

SECOND COUNT, stating it to be a warehouse instead of a shop.

MESSRS. BOLLAND and CLARKSON conducted the prosecution.

JOHN HOBSON . I am a tailor and woolen-draper , in partnership with my father , George David Hobson . We carry on business in the first floor of the Palladium Insurance-office in Cornhill; nobody sleeps in the house at night; on Saturday, the 4th of August, between seven and eight o'clock at night, I left the premises safe - there was

a quantity of woollen cloth, kerseymere, jeans, and other things, to the amount of 200l. or 300l. - I was the last person that left our part of the premises; I closed the shutter, and locked the warehouse door - and on coming down stairs locked the street door; I was the last person who left the house; I returned on the Monday following, at nine o'clock - I was the first person there; I found the lock of the street door merely on the latch, merely slammed too - it would not open without the key, but it was not locked as I had left it on Saturday night; on opening the door I found on the stairs two rollers, which had silk on them, and were in a drawer in the warehouse on Saturday night; I found the warehouse door wide open, without any marks of violence on it; the warehouse was entirely ransacked, and every thing of value gone; the papers which had covered the goods were strewed about, and nothing material was left; most of our goods had fag ends to them - I have a book in which I enter the numbers of the articles in the warehouse - it is in my own hand-writing. The value of the articles lost is about 200l. On Thursday, the 9th of August, I saw part of the goods at the Mansion-house, in possession of the officer - they are worth 30l. 7s.; two fag ends of cloth were produced at the Mansion-house, which had been attached to the goods in the warehouse on Saturday night.

Cross-examined by MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Were the goods more than two women could carry? A. I cannot say; the cloth was not in whole pieces; the robbery seems to have been done with dexterity, and by somebody who knew the premises. I never saw the prisoners before, to my knowledge.

Cross-examined by MR. LAW. Q. How did the door appear to have been opened? A. The lock had been picked; the goods, I should think, would require a hackney coach or two to take them away - and it would take some time to pack them.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. How long had you left the premises? A. From eight o'clock on Saturday night till Monday morning; one person could have taken the goods in that time.

DANIEL FORRESTER . I am an officer of the City. On the 8th of August I went with Herdsfield and John Forrester to No. 9, Paradise-street, Finsbury - there was a bill up to let the house; I knocked at the door, and saw an old lady; I looked over the bottom of the house, and in the yard saw Mary Anne Dove - she went up to show me the upper part; she showed me the middle and back room on the first floor; when I came to the door of the front room it was locked; I said "I should like to see this room"- she said, "You cannot, for I have let it to a young man, and he has got the key;" I said, "The fact is, I must see into the room, for I understand there was a coach unloaded here on Monday morning;" she said she would send for the key. I went down and waited in the back parlour with her - no key came; I said, "I had better break in, or get in at the window, as the key does not come;" she said, "Well, I will go for the key;" and while she was gone the prisoner, Elizabeth, went up stairs - I had seen her before - I heard a noise, followed her up, and found her with a towel in her hand, and something wrapped in it - and some dirty linen in her hand besides; I said,"What have you there?" she replied, dirty linen; I said,"Why, let me look;" she rather refused, and I took the towel out of her hand, and in that towel, among some small pieces of cloth, I found the fag ends of a black and blue cloth, with the numbers on them - I produce them; I afterwards showed them to Mr. John Hobson - Mary Anne did not return, and I got in at the window. In that room I found some remnants of various lengths of cloths of different colours, some a yard and a half, some two and three yards long - and here is one length of fifteen yards - some was on the bed and some in a chair. Mary Anne returned, and I secured her.

Cross-examined by MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. She returned with the key? A. I never saw the key, she had been gone about twenty minutes, when I got in at the window - I understand she is married.

Cross-examined by MR. LAW. Q. Were there not some articles of female dress among the dirty linen which Elizabeth had? A. I never said there were articles among it which the parties might not like to exhibit; she had more slips of cloth, but only two were numbered; the towel was not tied up - I understand she is the cousin of the other prisoner's husband - I do not know whether she lived there.

MR. BOLLAND. Q. Do you know any thing of Mary Anne being married? A. No - I do not know her husband.

THOMAS HERDFIELD . I am an officer, and accompanied Forrester to No. 9, Paradise-street. I found two baskets of buttons and chains for trousers, tied up in different parcels in the front-room, which we got into - Mr. Hobson claims them.

MARGARET SOMERVILLE . I am a laundress, and have the care of the office, No. 26, Cornhill. I left the premises at ten o'clock on the Saturday morning, and was not there again till Monday morning, after Mr. Hobson arrived; I had no key.(Property produced and sworn to.)

MR. ADOLPHUS called -

ELIZABETH BURCHELL . I am single, and live at No. 5, Stangate-street, Bishop's-walk. I know Mary Anne Dove; she has a husband: his name is Henry - I have known her for fourteen or sixteen years, and was present at her marriage; she always lived with her husband, to the best of my knowledge - I called on her in Paradise-street, about four months ago, when she was very ill; she was then living there with her husband; he was master of the house.

- BANKS. I am clerk to Mr. Ashmore, an attorney, and am subscribing witness to this agreement(producing it) it demises the house in question to Henry Dove; it was partly drawn by me - I know the husband lived in the house up to the time this transaction took place - I lodged in the house; on the 4th of August, the prisoner Elizabeth was at home with me, and on Sunday she went with me to Gravesend; we both returned to the house at eleven o'clock at night, and she remained at home all night.

COURT. Q. What part of the house did she occupy? A. No. particular part; she slept in the middle room over the first floor - I slept in the next room to her, and am confident she was at home all night, for I could hear her speak and walk; and if she drew her breath, I could hear it; she was at home on Sunday night also; she was only visiting there.

- TIDYMAN. I live at Stowmarket, and have known the prisoner Elizabeth since her birth; her home is

in Suffolk; her father is a considerable farmer, under Lord Dysart - I understand she has been six or seven months in town.


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-12
VerdictGuilty; Not Guilty; Not Guilty

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1600. MARY ANNE DOVE , ELIZABETH DOVE , and WILLIAM CHICK were indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the warehouse of Gustavus Smith and Charles Webb Smith , on the 30th of July , and stealing 800 lbs. weight of cochineal, value 600l. , their property.

JAMES ALLAN . I am foreman to Messrs. Smith and Co., drysalters , of St. Mary-axe . Nobody sleeps on the premises - it is all used as a warehouse. On Saturday night, the 28th of July, between seven and eight o'clock, I locked up the warehouse, and took the keys to Mr. Valentine, the clerk - I went back, about half-past eight o'clock on Monday morning, opened the street door, and on going into the counting-house, found part of a bottle of wine, and some glasses there - the lock of the counting-house door was broken open, and the lock of the door leading to the warehouse up stairs was forced - I went, up and found property gone from the first floor - I went to the first floor, then came down into a little room, and found a hole broken through the wall of an empty house, at the back of ours; that enabled persons to get from that empty house to this inner room, which is on the first floor - I missed about 8 cwt. of cochineal, which I had left safe on Saturday night, between seven and eight o'clock - I informed Mr. Valentine.

- VALENTINE. I am clerk to the prosecutor. It was Allan's duty to bring me the keys - he did so on Saturday the 28th of July, about eight o'clock; they were in my possession till about half-past eight on Monday morning, when I delivered them to him.

DANIEL FORRESTER . I am a City officer. On the 8th of August I went with my father and Herdsfield to No. 9, Paradise-street; we searched the first floor middle room, which was open, and found a cupboard over the stair-case which was locked - I went down and asked Mary Anne Dove for the key; she said she had not got it, for she had lent the use of that cupboard to the person she had let the front room to - I fetched a poker out of the kitchen to break it open, and in putting the poker under the door, it ran into one of the bags, and the cochineal flowed out - there was about 300 lbs. of cochineal there - I produce samples of it - I asked her to inform me where the young man was, whom she had let the room to; she said she should answer no questions. On the 13th of August, in consequence of information, I, Herdsfield and John Forrester went to the prisoner Chick's house, in Bacchus-walk, Hoxton, and saw him there; it is a small hovel, built in a garden - it has only a ground-floor; he was at work as a shoemaker - I told him I understood there was a quantity of cochineal there; he whispered something to his wife, and while she was in the act of speaking to Charles Hardsfield , at the door, I opened a door which led into a back place, and there found a bag, containing about 90 lbs. of cochineal; he said a man in a hairy cap brought it there on the Thursday of Friday, put it inside the door, and told him to take care of it.

Cross-examined by MR. BRODRICK. Q. What day of the week was the 8th of August? A. Wednesday; the 13th was Monday; there was a bed in the back room - it is a very miserable place.

CHARLES HERDSFIELD . I am an officer, and was with Forrester; he was talking when I went back; his wife said to me, "Herdsfield, it is here," and we found the cochineal in the back place.

Cross-examined. Q. The wife said, what you were inquiring about was there? A. Yes.

MR. GUSTAVUS SMITH . I am in partnership with my brother Charles Webb Smith, we are drysalters, and deal in cochineal - I was in the country when this happened. I have examined the samples of the cochineal found at Dove's by daylight; we prepare our cochineal by a particular process, and can say this is our property; it is in a finished state - that found at Chick's is part of the same parcel.

Cross-examined. Q. You prepare yours by a particular process? A. We believe so - I do not know how others prepare it, but we always know our own when we see it in the market with other lots; we prepare all ours by the same mode - it differs principally in two respects - there is a better state of colour on it, a better face, and it is lighter in hand, as we call it - it has a different feel. I think I could tell one lot of our preparation from another, but not by candle light - by referring to my book I could see what quality was prepared at one time from another. I saw this cochineal in its first state, and followed it through all its different processes, and know it to have been prepared at a particular time, for a particular market, and from particular samples; the preparation is the same, but the qualities selected are different in the first instance.

MR. BOLLAND. Q. Where was this prepared for? A. For Chinn. I am certain that this was prepared only a few days previous to the 28th of July.

MR. VALENTINE. I know this cochineal to be what was prepared in July for China. I have seen it by daylight, and by candle-light. It was only prepared a few days previous to the robbery.

CHARLES WEBB SMITH . I am in partnership with my brother - I came to town on Monday morning, and found the premises in the state described - I missed the cochineal, which had been prepared on the 26th or 27th, and know this to be part of the same.

CHICK's Defence. I have a witness who slept at my house from the 24th to the 30th of July.

THOMAS WESTON . I am a boot-closer, and know Chick - he is a shoemaker. On the evenings of the 25th, 26th, 27th, 28th, 29th, and 30th of July, I was at his house, and part of the day time. I went there to ask him to recommend me to work. I had come from Portsmouth, and had seen him before - I slept in his house all those nights, in the next room to him; nobody could come out of his room without going through the one I was in, nor without disturbing me - I generally got there about half-past nine or ten o'clock, and I, in a measure, spent an hour or two with him every evening; he generally got up at six o'clock in the morning - he never left the house on those nights, or I must have heard him - he had more work than common at this time, and I assisted him; I was there occasionally for three weeks after, or nearly four weeks, going to assist him; I was there on the Wednesday before he was taken; and towards the close of the evening I saw a man bring

a bag - it was Wednesday, to the best of my remembrance - it might be about eight o'clock.

Q. Did the man say any thing? A. The only words I heard him mention was, "Let this remain here for a few minutes;" he might have said more, but I am rather hard of hearing - he might have said the number of minutes - the bag was left in the outer room. I went away about half-past seven o'clock - he had not come for it then - I never saw him before. I did not see the bag afterwards; it appeared to be made of strong brown linen, which I call Russia sheeting.

MR. BOLLAND. Q. Where do you live? A. In Bell-alley, Goswell-street. I had no residence when I slept at Chick's - I had just come to town; the rooms are very small, and only a thin partition between them.

Q. Are there two beds? A. Why, it cannot be called a bed - it was a make-shift, to save me from a lodging - he must pass very lightly through my room not to awake me - I am very wakeful - a person might perhaps go through the room without his shoes. Chick wished the man to take the bag away - he did not open it, nor ask what it was, nor did I. Nobody could go out and come in again without my hearing them.

COURT. Q. I thought you said your hearing was bad? A. Sometimes it is. I lodge in Bell-alley, on the first floor. I left Chick's house at eight o'clock on Sunday morning, and returned about half-past six or seven o'clock- I was absent all day; I think I can say I did not return later than seven; I keep no watch, and there is no clock, but I know the people were not out of church.

Q. Out of what church? A. Out of the churches which I passed; I went up Windmill-street, and passed the Tabernacle; the people were in there - I suppose that is over about eight o'clock, but I cannot say when. I will swear I got to Chick's before eight, for after I got there I heard the people passing by, say it was eight; I was then indoors. The footpath is close to the door; I heard the parents call their children in, who were playing there, and say it was gone eight. I was talking to Chick and his wife at the time. I went to bed on Saturday about eleven o'clock - the bag was left at his house on a Wednesday, about five weeks ago - I think it was about the 8th of August - I am confident it was Wednesday; I was not there when the officers came - whether they look the same bag away I cannot say; it was left by a stout man in a jacket, but what his jacket was made of I do not know.

Q. Did he wear a cocked hat, or a round one? A. Oh, it was not a cocked hat.

Q. Was it a good round hat, or a shabby one? A. That I cannot answer - he was at the door so short a time I could not observe; he put it in, and went away after saying what he did. I cannot say whether his hat was shabby or not - I do not think it was very shabby; I cannot say what his hat was, whether it was new or old; to the best of my remembrance he had a hat on, but of what sort it was I do not know - he had the bag on his shoulder - I think it was large, but what the size was I cannot say - I should think it would hold about two bushels; I do not know what cochineal is; he left it between five and six o'clock - he put it just within the door; the prisoner said,"You must not leave that here," or words to that effect; he did not throw it out of doors after him - I did not run after the man; we did not go to inform a constable; Worship-street is about half a mile off. I was there about two hours and a half that day - I went to see about some work which he had promised me, but there was none - I staid, as I had nothing to do; I made no inquiry whether such property had been lost. The man did not run away that I know of - he went away; we did not call him back. I told the prisoner's father of this on the day he was committed from the Mansion-house, as I was there; I was not inside the office. I cannot say that the prisoner ever examined the bag. When I left the house it was on the same spot as the man left it; I have not seen it since.

D. FORRESTER re-examined. I cannot be certain whether the prisoner or his wife told me when it was left; the prisoner was present at the time - they were close together.


Transported for Life .



13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-13
VerdictGuilty > theft under 100s

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1601. HANNAH BARRETT was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of July , 1 coat, value 30s.; 1 pair of trousers, value 10s.; 1 gown, value 20s.; 1 pair of trousers, value 10s.; 1 gown, value 20s.; 1 scarf, value 10s., and 2 shifts, value 3s., the goods of Mons Dahl , in the dwelling-house of William Slater .

SUSANNAH SLATER . I am the wife of William Slater ; we live in Princes-row, Pimlico . The prisoner lodged at our house for nine months, and was taken into custody in her room.

JOHN GRIMLEY . I am shopman to Courtney and Co. pawnbrokers, Pimlico. On the 28th of April the prisoner pawned a scarf with me; I am certain of her person - I knew her before.

HENRY FENNER . I am shopman to Mr. Debenham, of Pimlico. On the 3d of August the prisoner pawned a shift with me, for 9d.

JOHN MATTHEWS . I am shopman to Mr. Arbuthnot, of Bridge-row, Lambeth. I have a coat, but I do not know who pawned it.

WILLIAM WOODBERRY . I am an officer. I apprehended the prisoner on the 3d of August, and found twelve duplicates of property taken from her lodging - and a duplicate of this shift and scarf - she told me where the coat was pawned.

MARY DAHL . I lodge at Slater's, and am the wife of Mons Dahl . This scarf is mine, and the coat is his - they were taken from the parlour - the prisoner and her husband lodged in the house .

GUILTY. Aged 33.

Of stealing to the value of 99s. only .

Transported for Seven Years .

There was another indicted against the prisoner.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-14

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1602. JOHN POWELL was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of August , at St. Anne, Westminster , in the dwelling-house of George Drake Sewell and Thomas Cross , 250 yards of crape, value 25l.; 24 handkerchiefs, value 5l.; 26 yards of

linen, value 2l. 10s.; 129 yards of satin, value 22l.; 11 pieces of cambric, value 24l.; 390 yards of ribbon, value 28l., and 5 dress lengths of gros-de-naple, value 12l. , the goods of the said George Drake Sewell and Thomas Cross , his masters .

MESSRS. BRODRICK and PHILLIPS conducted the prosecution.

GEORGE DRAKE SEWELL . I am in partnership with Thomas Cross - we live at No. 44 and 45, Old Compton-street , in the parish of St. Anne, Westminster - we both live in the house, and both contribute to the rent and taxes. The prisoner was in our employ on the 28th of August, as a shopman - and, in consequence of suspicion, I employed Clements, the officer. On the 30th of August the prisoner was sent to Grosvenor-square, with some goods; he left our house apparently for that purpose - after he returned I saw him in the shop - no conversation passed between us that day; I called him up into my room next day, and asked him where he had been the day previous - he said he had been to Grosvenor-square, to a lady, whom he named - I said, "Powell, of course you took the goods under your arm as usual - walked all the way there and all the way back;" he said he did. I then asked if he had not got a lodging in Carnaby-market (we had furnished him with a lodging in Greek-street) - he said he had not; Clements was present, and said, "Have you, or have you not, a lodging in Carnaby-market, Powell?" and I think he said at an eating-house - he said "Yes, I have;" Clements searched him, in my presence, and found on him three keys; I afterwards went to a house in Carnaby-market, with the prisoner and Clements, and, on going up stairs, Clements asked him which was the door - he pointed to the front room on the second floor; we went into that room, which one of the keys opened, and found two deal boxes - Clements opened them with one of the keys which the prisoner had given him, and in those boxes we found all the goods stated in the indictment, which are worth 120l. or 130l. together - I knew them to be ours directly.

Q. Before he said any thing, did you make him any promise or threat? A. No; he said he had brought the goods there - I had given him no permission to take any goods to any lodging whatever; I have seen him write - Clements produced an inventory of these goods in his hand-writing - I think it was in one of the boxes, but I first saw it in Clements' possession.

COURT. Q. Were any of these the goods he was sent with to Grosvenor-square? A. No part of them - they were all our property.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Is not the name of your parish St. Anue, Soho? A. No; I never heard of any other parish of St. Anne in Westminster - our house is in the liberty of Westminster.

Q. Did not you tell the prisoner he could not he in a worse situation than he was, before he said any thing? A. No; nor any thing to that effect - I visited him after he was in custody, and questioned him. I know nothing about his being prevented from communicating with his solicitor - I know of no such order.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Had he said the goods were yours, and taken by him before you visited him in prison? A. Certainly.

THOMAS CLEMENTS . I am an officer of Marlborough-street. In consequence of directions I watched the prisoner on Wednesday, the 29th of August, and saw him come out of his masters' shop with some rolls of silk, or something in a bulk - he went to the coach-stand in Dean-street, got into a chariot, and drove to Grosvenor-square - I followed, and waited till he came out of the house - he was in there above half an hour; he returned in the same chariot to Dean-street, then got out and walked to his masters' shop. On the following morning I saw him at Mr. Sewell's, and found the keys on him; I went with Mr. Sewell to Caruaby-market, and found the property, which I produce. Mr. Sewell's account is correct - when I searched him at Mr. Sewell's I found the keys - I also found this inventory on him; it remained in my possession till we found the goods - I had not looked at it till we found the goods. I produce the paper and the goods.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you know he had been sent to Grosvenor-square on business? A. Yes; I watched him there and back.

MR. SEWELL. This paper is in his hand-writing, and is anexact inventory of the goods in the boxes; I believe every piece of goods has our mark on it; the most valuable article here is a piece, containing forty-five yards, of black Genoa satin, which I am certain of; it cost us 4s. 11d. a yard, and is worth above 6l.; here are also twenty-two yards of Genoa satin, worth 4l. 19s.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Have you measured this black satin? A. No; it has been measured in my presence since it has been found, by one of our shopmen, who is not here; there are about forty-five yards - I will swear there are forty yards. I saw the young man count it - 4s. 11d. is the cost price; it is certainly worth more than 5l. - we took him with the highest character, as a confidential servant; we had a good opinion of him; he had been four months with us.

The prisoner made no defence.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 23.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-15
VerdictsGuilty > with recommendation
SentencesDeath; Transportation

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Before Mr. Justice Gazelee.

1603. SOPHIA (THE WIFE OF JAMES CHS.) GUNYON was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of August , at St. George, Hanover-square , in the dwelling-house of Charles Crosby , one 50l., three 10l., and four 5l. Bank notes, the property of Marian Mason , against the statute ; and the said JAMES CHARLES GUNYON was indicted for feloniously receiving the said notes, well knowing them to have been stolen, against the statute .

MARIAN MASON . I am single , and teach the gymnastic exercise to ladies . I lodge in the house of Mr. Charles Crosby , at No. 3, George-street, St. George, Hanover-square. I pay my rent to Mrs. Crosby, his wife, who lives in the house. On Sunday, the 12th of August, I went out about half-past two o'clock in the afternoon, and left a pocket-book, containing 500l. in Bank notes, in my bed-room drawers - they consisted of twenties, tens, fives, and there was one of 50l.; I had seen both the pocket-book and the notes at nine o'clock in the morning - I left Margaret Peel , my servant, in the house, when I went out; I had given her leave to go out - I left my drawer locked; I found Peel at home on my return. I went to bed about half-past ten o'clock, without going to my drawer - I was disturbed at one o'clock in the night, by a ringing at the

house-door bell - I got out of bed, looked over the stairs, and asked who was there - I saw nobody, but the female prisoner answered me, and said it was her husband, who had come to fetch the key of her house - she was in the room she slept in - she did not live in the house, but was engaged by Mrs. Crosby, as a charwoman, and had liberty to sleep in the house if she chose. I do not know how far off she lived - I did not miss my property till the Saturday after, about half-past two o'clock, when I was going to take it to Messrs. Drummonds', the bankers; I had placed the notes, 100l. in each parcel - I found the drawer locked; I took the notes out to count them, and missed 100l., the 50l. note was among it - the notes were confused, not as I had left them - I am not certain how many parcels I found; I did not know the date of the 50l. note till after I lost it - I have not found it. I have seen one note since, but cannot say it is mine, not having the dates or numbers.

EMMA MARGARETTA PEEL . I am the prosecutrix's servant. On Sunday, the 12th of August, she went out about half-past three o'clock - I went out at five, leaving the female prisoner in the house, and nobody else. I returned at seven, and found her still there; I had been to mistreas' bed-room in the morning - the door was quite open about twelve o'clock. I did not see her door after she went out - I went to bed at twelve o'clock that night; before I went to bed the prisoner told me her husband was to return from Battersea-house; I did not see her husband till the morning - he breakfasted there, and went away about nine o'clock. I saw him give her 1s. before breakfast - he said that was all he had got at Battersea-house the day before.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Are there many lodgers in the house? A. My mistress is the only lodger there - she holds her school there; many persons attend the school - there was a servant in the house at the time; I did not hear the bell ring in the night.

MISS MASON re-examined. I have never seen Mr. Crosby in the house - he has not been there since I have been there; which will be twelve months in October - his wife lives in the house; I do not know where he lives - I believe he is a house-agent. I saw him before I went to lodge there, for he made the agreement with me.

MARY SIDWELL . I am a laundress, and live at Hampstead with my husband. I have known the female prisoner from an infant, and her husband, since they have been married, which is eleven years or more. On the 14th of August, about four o'clock in the afternoon, they both came to me and continued about an hour - they both asked if I had been into the country - I said No, but I was going down on the Saturday following, if nothing happened - that I was going to St. Albans; they both said they should very much like to go down with me, for they had not been down in the country for nine years before (the woman was born at St. Albans). I asked Mr. Gunyon if he had had a death in his family - he said No; that a friend had sent him some money - I asked that question because I knew they were very poor before, and I thought it not in their power to go into the country - they left; he said they would come up again on the Wednesday, which they did, between two and three o'clock; they both sat down, and Mr. Gunyon pulled out this purse with money in it, and said there were forty sovereigns in it - his wife asked him to give it to her, which he refused - she then said he had better leave it in my care, and he gave the purse into my hand; his wife took it and opened it, she put in a 10l. note, and said that made 50l.; she gave me the purse; I locked it up in a drawer - they stopped till the evening. I saw no more of them till Saturday morning, when they came to me again and had breakfast; Mrs. Gunyon took five sovereigns from the purse; we put it back into the same place again, under lock and key - we left Hampstead that morning and went to St. Albans, remained there until Monday morning at eight o'clock, and returned to Hampstead - they staid with me till evening, and then went home; they did not take the money with them. I told them I was coming to town on Tuesday morning on business; they said they would meet me at the Blue Posts, public-house, Tottenham-court-road. I waited there an hour for them; they did not come, and I went to their lodging in Monmouth-street, and found only a strange woman and their eldest child there; they were in custody, I understood.

Q. Was anything said about the money when they left you on Monday? A. Not a word; I was not to bring it to town, and did not - they had said they were going to take a little shop, and should like me to go with them; we were all at my mother's, at St. Albans, part of the time - the male prisoner is a waiter, or something at hotels. I did not know of the woman being employed at Crosby's.

Cross-examined. Q. Had the prisoners a lodging of their own? A. Yes; they deposited the money with me of their own accord. I never heard any thing against either of them before.

HENRY GODDARD . I am a Marlborough-street officer. On the 18th of August I first heard of this robbery: I made inquiry; and, in consequence of suspicion, I and Ballard took the prisoners into custody, at No. 68, Monmouth-street, on the Monday night, between ten and eleven, or rather later; we had been there at eight o'clock, but they were from home; we told them we took them on suspicion of stealing Bank notes from Miss Mason; they said we were welcome to search, for they knew nothing of them - we searched, and found no notes, but some new bed linen and wearing apparel; we asked how they became possessed of it - the woman said she had a 5l. note sent her from a Mrs. Pears, her sister, at Clapham, and had purchased them with that; we took them to the watch-house, and next day (21st) they were examined and remanded till the following Tuesday - we went to Mrs. Pears, at Clapham. I had information and went to Mrs. Sidwell, on the Tuesday afternoon, at Hampstead, with Ballard. Mrs. Sidwell gave Ballard thirty-five sovereigns and a 10l. note; on the following day we saw the male prisoner; and told him we had get 45l. from Mrs. Sidwell, and that he need not answer any questions unless he thought proper; that he might use his own discretion - I neither threatened or promised him anything; he then said he had received the money from his wife on the Monday morning - we then asked what he had done with the 50l. note; he said he had taken it to a Mrs. Aglen, in Wellclose-square, and sold it for forty sovereigns - we asked if the knew where any of the other notes were changed - he said he did not; after that we saw his wife, and told her not to answer any questions unless she thought proper; she then said she had taken the money - that she had changed a 10l. note in Monmouth-street. another 10l. note at Waterloo-house, and a 5l. note in Oxford-street,

that all she had taken was 85l. and that she thought at the time that the 50l. note was a five.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you tell them that whatever answers they gave, you must give in evidence? A. No; their apartments appeared in a most distressing state.

WILLIAM BALLARD . I am an officer, and assisted Goddard in taking the prisoners: we told them the woman was suspected of having stolen 100l. from Miss Mason, of George-street; she said she knew nothing about it; I said it was my duty to search; she said she was surprised Miss Mason should suspect her, and we were welcome to search - they were in bed at the time; I told them to remain in bed while we searched - we found a new bolster, new blankets, a mattress, and in the female prisoner's pocket were two sovereigns and some silver; their clothes appeared to be new; I asked how she came by the new things; she said she bought them with a 5l. note, which her sister, of Clapham, had given her - we took them to the watch-house. I went to Hampstead, and received thirty-five sovereigns and a 10l. note from Sidwell; we then went to the prisoners, and saw the man first - we held out neither threat nor promise to him. I told him we were come to ask him questions, and he was to do as he pleased about answering them; I thought it my duty to tell him first that I had thirty-five sovereigns, a 10l. note, a silk dress, and a lace cap and collar, from Sidwell; I did not say I must state what he said. I then said, "What have you done with the 50l. note?" he said, "I have sold it." - "For what?" said I; he said for forty sovereigns - I asked to whom; he said Mrs. Aglen, who lived at a butcher's shop in Wellclose-square, and he must leave his wife to tell where the rest was changed; he said, "You say I took the notes, but I did not;" I said, "I cannot say you took them - when did you first have them?" he said in the morning - I asked at what time he got to Miss Mason's house; he said between twelve and one o'clock - that he had been at Battersea, and got home late. I then went to his wife and said she must do as she pleased about answering my questions, that we had got the things from Sidwell, and her husband had said he had changed the 50l. note, and left it to her to say what she had done with the others, but she must do as she pleased: she then said she had changed a 10l. note at Waterloo-house, where she bought a silk dress and collar, a 10l. note in Monmouth-street, and a 5l. note in Oxford-street, where she bought the bolster, blankets, and mattress: I said, "What have you done with the others?" she said there was no more; I said there was 100l.; she said No, there was only 85l., and she thought the 50l. note was a 5l., and she gave it to her husband on the following morning.

Cross-examined. Q. They were in custody when you examined them? A. Yes; I did it of my own accord.

COURT. Q. Were you present when they were examined before Sir George Farrant? A. Yes: I saw their examinations taken, heard it read over to them, and saw them sign them; Sir George said, "What have you to say for yourselves? you need not say anything unless you like" they said it was true, and they were very sorry. Sir George asked if they objected to sign it if it was taken down; they said the case was bad enough, and they hoped he would have mercy on them - it was taken down, and I saw them both sign this paper, (looking at it) and here is Sir George Farrant's signature to it.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you given evidence of the confession they made to you before they signed this? A. I had. (Read.)

Charles Gunyon says "he admits receiving the 50l. Bank note, and a 10l. Bank note, from his wife, last Monday fortnight, and sold the 50l. note to a woman in Wellclose-square, for forty sovereigns." J.C. GUNYON.

Sophia Gunyon voluntarily says "Last Sunday fortnight she went up to Miss Mason's bed-room in the evening, and found on the floor a roll of papers, which she picked up, and then discovered that they were Bank notes; she put them into her pocket, and next day gave her husband the 50l. note.

SOPHIA GUNYON , X her mark.

MR. PHILLIPS to MISS MASON. Q. How do you know Crosby's name is Charles? A. I have heard him spoken of as such; my receipts have been always signed by his wife, in his name, as Charles.


J.C. GUNYON - GUILTY. Aged 37.

Transported for Fourteen Years .

Both recommended to mercy by the prosecutrix, believing them to be in great distress, and having five children .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-16
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1604. WILLIAM GOODRICH was indicted for stealing, on the 28th of August , at St. Paul, Covent-garden , in the dwelling-house of Stephen Price , I silver salver, value 10l.; 1 cheese-knife, value 10s., 1 soup-ladle, value 20s.; 1 pair of asparagus-tongs, value 10s., and 5 silver spoons, value 4l. , the goods of the said Stephen Price , his master .

STEPHEN PRICE . ESQ. I live at No. 7, Henrietta-street , Covent-garden. The prisoner has been my servant for the last eight or nine months. On the 28th of August, having some company to dine with me, I missed a silver salver - he was then in my employ; I asked him where it was; he said he would go and get it - he did not know that I wanted it; this was about five minutes before dinner time - it was his duty to attend the table - he was butler; he did not leave the room; a female servant proposed to go: he said, "I will go myself;" and on looking in his face, I suspected there was something wrong, and I myself went down to the street-door, which is the only way out of the house, and sent for an officer, who came in five minutes, and I gave him into custody. I have not spoken to him since - I saw the other plate at Bow-street that night, some of which I knew. I never gave him authority to pawn or lend my property, or make away with it at all.

WILLIAM WILLIAMS . I am shopman to Mr. Young, a pawnbroker, of St. Martin's-lane. I have a silver salver, asparagus tongs, a cheese-knife, six table-spoons, and a soup-ladle, all of which were pawned with me by the prisoner - I am certain of his person; the soup-ladle and two table spoons were pawned on the 29th of March, four spoons on the 21st of August, and on the 28th of August the silver salver, asparagus-tongs, and cheese-knife. I have not the slightest doubt of him - the plate has been in my prossession ever since.

Cross-examined by MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. You knew who he was, and where he lived? A. I knew him before - I have had the property before, and it has been redeemed; I did not know where he lived.

COURT. Q. What did you advance on them? A. On the salver. asparagus-tongs, and cheese-knife, I lent 13l.

MR. PRICE. I know the salver, the soup-ladle, and cheese-knife to be mine; the other things I believe to be mine, for they are similar to those I have in my possession. I live in the house.

Q. Is the whole house your's? A. I pay 200l. a year for the house, with the exception of the shop, which was let before I came there - it is the house I live in; I have a separate door and separate passage. The people of the shop cannot come into my part of the house, nor into my passage; there is no communication whatever from the shop, or the room behind it, to my house. The prisoner came to me with an excellent character; I never doubted him in any way - he has a wife, and, I believe, four children.

Prisoner's Defence. I always maintained a good character, and was never even before a Magistrate. Unfortunately I was a long time ill, and had no idea of the danger I was running into by doing this; I was much reduced by my long illness, having a wife and family. I had some very severe surgical operations, which reduced my health, and injured the spine of my back. Under these circumstances I beg for mercy.

Three witnesses gave the prisoner a good character.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 46.

Recommended to Mercy by the Jury and Prosecutor, on account of his character and family .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-17
VerdictNot Guilty

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1605. ELIZABETH JONES , MARIA PALMER , and JOHN RILEY were indicted for feloniously assaulting Timothy Wright , on the King's highway, on the 21st of July , at St. Clement Danes , putting him in fear, and taking from his person, and against his will, 8 sovereigns, his monies .

TIMOTHY WRIGHT . I live at Rotherhithe, and keep a green-grocer's shop . On the 21st of July, between three and four o'clock in the afternoon, I was going along the Strand, and was accosted by a well-dressed woman, who stated that she was very thirsty, and requested I would give her a pint of porter; I agreed to give her half-a-pint, and to take half-a-pint myself; she introduced me into a public-house, which I understood to be the York Arms ; I called for half-a-pint of porter at the bar, but she preferred a bottle of ginger-beer. I sat down in the tap-room, to drink my half-pint of beer - she had her ginger-beer in the same room (the house I understand to be in Shire-lane, close to the Strand ). I was immediately afterwards followed into the house by Jones, Palmer, and several other women - they sat down in another box by themselves, several of them; I drank my beer, and Jones, with a woman who is not in custody, got up, and crossed the room to me- I suppose I had been about ten minutes in the house - they crossed the room, and seized me by the throat, as I at oh the bench; the other woman assisted in holding me, while I was robbed by Jones - Palmer was one of them; there were five or six of them; Jones and the other held me by the throat, the others by the arms and legs: Jones held my throat with her right hand, and thrust her left-hand into my waistcoat pocket - I extricated my left hand from one of the women, and for hold of the bottom of my pocket, to secure my property. Jones drew her hand out, and got eight sovefeign out of sixteen; eight still remained in my pocket, they trust me down on the settle, knocked my hat off, and ran away, leaving me there. I proceeded towards the door, to secure them, and was met by Riley - I stated to him that I had been robbed; he demanded the money for half-a-pint of beer, and the ginger-beer before I should go out - I told him I had been robbed, and to let me go and get an officer, and he should have his demand; he said, "D - n all about robbery - give me the money for the beer" - and after detaining me for a minute or a minute and a half, he let me go into the street, without paying him; I returned into the house, having no hat on - he met me in the tap-room, brought my hat to me, and again let me go without paying. I proceeded to find an officer - that is all I know of this transaction.

Q. Where was Riley at the time these women were on you? A. I asked him where he was - he said he had been out to get change - I did not see him at the time; he was not in the way; he at first said he had been out to get change for his master, and then said it was for a person in the neighbourhood. He was certainly not in the room at the time of the robbery. I asked the landlord where he was at the time - he said he was asleep, and had left a child to mind the bar. There was nobody in the tap-room except those who attacked me.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. What are you? A. A carman and green-grocer. I keep a horse and cart. I had just received the money at Hopkinson's, the banker, in Regent-street. A gentleman in Regent's-park had paid me a cheque on them. I had never seen the welldressed woman before - I met her about the end of Shire-lane; I was never up the lane before - it comes into the Strand, on the other side of Temple-bar. I did not know it was a bad house, or a bad lane; I only went there to get the beer. She appeared a decent woman - I did not give it a thought whether she was an immodest woman. I believe there were five or six women in the room altogether - I will swear there was not a dozen; I could not halloo out, because I was nearly choked. Riley, the waiter, brought me the beer. I had never seen Jones before - I did not notice her being pregnant - I was as sober as I am now. I was too much confused to notice who was in the bar. When I ran out Riley would not let me out of the room - I did not go to the bar. I had never seen any of the women before, to my knowledge. The prisoners had three examinations. I told the same story to the Magistrate; Mr. Halls said I had contradicted myself, but on referring to his writing he found he had made a mistake - that was not about this robbery.

Q. Did you not, at one examination, say Jones robbed you while another held your throat? A. I say so now, but she held my throat with one hand, while she robbed me with the other. Directly I got outside the house I looked about, and returned to the house for my hat: the party were all gone out - I had seen them go out, and the moment I was let out I followed. I do not know whether there is a watch-house near. I have been in the Strand a thousand times, but know no watch-house there. I have noticed the patrols about the Strand, but till this happened I did not know they were officers. The lane I was robbed in is west of Temple-bar - I have not been there since, except with the officer, to take Riley. They call it Little Shire-lane. He conducted me to the house the robbery took place in.

Prisoner PALMER. Q. Can you swear to my being

one of them? A. Yes; I never doubted about you or Jones - it was about some others who were taken up.

Q. Did you identify me till the officer said half a sovereign was found in my mouth? A. I was put into a room where the prisoners wait to be examined: there was above forty persons in the room. The officer desired me to go and see if I could identify any of them - I turned round, and said they were two of them. They had not told me half a sovereign had been found on her.

COURT. Q. After this transaction, you speak of something else happening - had you, after the first occasion, seen Palmer till she was in custody? A. No.

SAMUEL GILES . I am a constable of Bow-street. On Saturday, the 21st of July, about eight o'clock in the evening, I had information of this robbery; I took Palmer about half-past eight, or near nine o'clock - I took Jones about eleven, at the King's Head public-house, Strand, and told her about the robbery at Temple-bar; she said, thank God she was not there, she had been out charing all day, that they had agreed to give her 3s. for her day's work, but she pleased them so well, they gave her 4s. - and as we went to the watch-house, she admitted that it was all false what she had said, and that she was there, and had done the robbery by way of a lark - I had not used any threat or promise to her - I took Riley on Monday morning, the 23d, at the York Arms public-house, Little Shire-lane - there is a court out of Picket-street, into the lane; it is on the west side of Temple-bar - Great Shire-lane is on this side the Bar; the York Arms is in the County - I had not seen the prosecutor till the Monday morning, when he came to the office, and went with me to the York Arms; he could not point out the house for some time; he did not know exactly where it was situated - I found half a sovereign tied in a handkerchief, which Palmer had round her neck.

Cross-examined. Q. Is Little Shire-lane in a straight line with Great Shire-lane? A. No, it turns to the left - I go up a court in the Strand directly into it; one side of Great Shire-lane is in Middlesex; the prosecutor had given information to two officers in the Strand at the time.

RILEY's Defence. When this man came in, an old gentleman was there, drinking half a pint of a beer - he called for three bottles of ginger beer, and a glass of porter - I went to the old gentleman, and said, "I wonder what you was going to do with the ginger beer;" the old gentlemen said, he had got three girls who had gone backward; when he had drank the beer I asked him for the money; the old gentleman said I need not be afraid; one of the young women came, and asked me to get change for a sovereign - I went out for it, and as I came back the old gentleman said, "That man has been robbed, you had better go after him, and give him his hat" - I went and met him, gave him his hat, and asked him for 101/2d.; he said "Show me the house, and I will give you any thing" - I showed him the house; he would not give me the money, and I would not let him go out again; he must have been intoxicated, or he would have known the house.

Palmer put in a written defence, declaring her innocence, and that she had not been in the house at all that day.

TIMOTHY WRIGHT re-examined. There was no old gentleman in the room, nor any man, except Riley and his master - I saw no old gentleman in the bar - I had drank one pint of porter in Regent's-park, and nothing else.


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-18
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1606. WILLIAM WARD was indicted for feloniously killing and slaying Stephen Mosland .

BENJAMIN TIMBRELL . I am an officer. I knew the deceased by sight; he used to carry fruit about the streets - I know nothing of this transaction; the prisoner is a costermonger ; he came to the hospital - I said, "Is your name Ward?" he said, "Yes, whatever the consequence is, I will wait and abide it."

WILLIAM MARTIN . I was a patient in the Westminster Hospital; the deceased was brought in there on the 22d of July, about eleven o'clock - I slept in the next bed to him; he died on Friday morning, the 27th, about a quarter past ten o'clock - about an hour and a quarter before he died, he called me to his bed-side, and said, "Martin, I am dying;" I asked why he thought so; he said he was sure of it, from the difference of the appearance in his flesh, that it was mortifying - I then asked if he knew who the party was that gave him the ill-usage; he made no answer then, and I asked him who the man and woman were who came to see him on the 24th, because I would send to let them know he was dying; he said he wished I would, that he lived at a china-shop, next door to a green-grocer's shop, in Strutton-ground, Westminster, and his name was Ward - I asked if he would tell me what was the reason of Ward's giving him the ill usage; he had said he was violently kicked and beat about in his back and left side by Ward; that he was first knocked down and violently kicked; I asked the cause of it; he said he had taken two baskets from Ward's premises that morning, but he did not know they belonged to Ward, or he should not have taken them: but he thought they belonged to the green-grocer next door; he said Ward came to his premises to know what he had stolen them for, that Ward was in a great passion, but he begged his pardon: that Ward went away, but came a second time, and ill-used him.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. You asked if you should inform the person who came to see him on the 24th? A. Yes; that was Ward; he did not bring him tea and sugar - some was sent on Monday - I do not know who by; a tea-pot, bason and spoon also came - I cannot say they were from Ward; he did not tell me; he had denied taking the basket, the first time Ward went to him; I never saw Ward at the hospital but once; he stopped about five minutes; he seemed very civil and quiet - I thought he was a friend of his; a young woman came with him - I do not know her name.

RICHARD BARNETT (a prisoner). I deal in fruit. I knew the deceased, Stephen Mosland . One Sunday morning he had stolen two baskets, called shallows, from Ward - he came and offered them for sale to a person in Duck-yard - I was standing at the door of the Green Man public-house; he came and said, "Here are two shallows:" the man who was going to buy them, said to me, "I think they are stolen;" I said I knew nothing of them; they were taken to Ward's house; he was in bed; he got up, and went over to Mr. Hall's, and had something to drink with the man and me; he came down to Duck-lane, between seven and eight o'clock that morning, where the decased lodged; he knocked at the door, and asked if Mosland was at home, and was told No; he went a second time, and the deceased was at home; they both went to the door together - Ward asked if he was not a pretty sort of a man o take

his shallows - Mosland said he was very sorry, but he did not know they belonged to him, and begged his pardon - Ward said, if they had been any body elses, he had no business to take them - Ward then struck him two or three times in the face, and then several blows on his side with his fist; he had no stick; the deceased fell, and said that was his death-blow; he bled at the mouth - Walker said,"Shall I take you to the infirmary?" - he said Yes, as he was very bad; they took him there - I went to see him a day or two afterwards.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you hear him say at the infirmary that he freely forgave Ward? A. He said he freely forgave him for what he had done, for he was in the wrong all along - he said Ward had been to see him; there were no kicks - he was led to the hospital.

EDWARD HERMAN YOUNG . I am house-surgeon at the Westminster Hospital. Mosland was brought there on Sunday, the 22d of July; I saw him directly he came - he was in a dangerous state; I found very severe blows had been inflicted on his side, and inflammation was coming on; he died on the Friday - I opened him on the Saturday, and found a great deal of bloody fluid in the cavity of the abdomen, and a rupture of the spleen on the left side, just above the kidney. In my judgment it was occasioned by a violent blow - it doubtless caused his death - a violent blow on the side with the fist might have done it; the treatment described by Barnett was sufficient, in my judgment, to account for the appearances which caused his death.

The prisoner put in a written defence, stating that his brother's children's clothes had been stolen by some boys, whom the deceased was in the habit of fostering, and on losing his baskets he went there, hoping to hear of the clothes, when an altercation ensued, and the deceased said he knew where they were, but would not tell him, and, irritated by this, he struck him, but had he supposed him to be hurt, he would have procured him assistance - but when he left him he was standing up, and did not appear hurt; and that he had sent him what was in his power, to make him comfortable at the hospital, and on visiting him, the deceased said he could not blame him.

SARAH PHILLIPS . I have known the prisoner five or six years; he sent me to take the deceased some tea, sugar, butter, a roll, and biscuits, but they would not admit the roll and biscuits at the gate; he said he was much better; and told me to tell the prisoner he should like to see him, for he freely forgave him - and he should have done the same himself. I accompanied the prisoner next day to see him - he appeared anxious about him, and went there again after he died.

GUILTY. Aged 25.

Recommended to Mercy . - Confined Three Months .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-19
VerdictGuilty > theft under 100s

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1607. JAMES FRANCIS COTTRELL , was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Daniel Madden , on the 30th of July , and stealing 3 gowns, value 15s.; 2 shirts, value 10s.; 4 handkerchiefs, value 20s.; 1 hat, value 7s.; 3 shifts, value 7s.; 3 yards of lace, value 2s.; 2 rings, value 8s.; 1 pin, value 2s.; 2 sovereigns, and 18 shillings, his property .

DANIEL MADDEN . I lodge at No. 64, Orchard-street, Westminster . Mrs. Hammeson rents the house - she does not live there - her nephew does; I pay the rent to her. On the 30th of July, about half-past five o'clock in the morning, I went out to work, and locked my door with a spring lock; I have one room on the second floor - it could not be opened without a key - I only shut it. I returned at seven o'clock in the evening, and missed a hat-box, and a square wooden box, which was not locked. I had left my wife in bed, and another young woman, who sleeps with my child.

CORNELIUS SARGEANT . I live at No. 58, Orchard-street, with my father. I have known the prisoner five or six years; I saw him about six o'clock on the morning of the 30th of July, sitting on the steps of the front door, at No. 64, Orchard-street; (the door was shut as I went by;) he had got nothing then; I went into the Park to look for work, returned in twenty minutes, and saw him sitting in the same place; I asked if he was out of work; I went up stairs to my house, and as I was looking through the window, I saw him coming out of the house with a square red box, and a hat-box; he turned down St. Ann's-lane; I did not suspect him, as a woman was going to Ireland that morning to her husband, who was a soldier - I thought he was carrying her boxes. I saw him come out of the house and shut the door; he used to work for a stone mason - his parents live in Medway-street, about a quarter of a mile off.

JOSEPH PETERS . I live with my parents in New-way, Westminster. I know the prisoner by sight - he used to live in New Tothill-street. On Monday morning, the 30th of July, I saw him sitting on the steps of No. 64, Orchard-street; he had nothing - I afterwards saw him get up the steps, push the door open, and go in - he came out in about five minutes with a hat-box and a square wooden box - he turned down St. Ann's-lane; I was called to go out with my milk - I said nothing to him - the door was ajar when he went in.

MARIA MIFFIN . I live with my husband in St. Ann's-lane. On the 30th of July, about half-past six o'clock I saw the prisoner go by my shop, with a hat-box and another box; he came from towards Orchard-street, and seemed much agitated, which made me notice him. I told my husband - I never saw him before, but am certain of him.

MARGARET MADDEN . I am the prosecutor's wife. When he went out I was in bed - my child and a young woman were in another bed in the room; the boxes were safe when I went to bed; I missed them at twenty minutes to seven o'clock, when my child got up and awoke me - I found the door open - it could be opened outside; I do not know how the street door was opened - there was a string by which it could be opened outside. I never saw the prisoner till he was at Queen-square; the boxes contained the articles stated in the indictment. I have found nothing.

JOHN WARDER . I am a constable. I apprehended the prisoner on the 11th of August, in New Tothill-street. I asked if his name was James Cottrell - he said, No; I knew him before, but did not know his Christian name - he bore a very good character.

DANIEL MADDEN . I am certain the boxes were safe when I went out, for I put the hat-box on the top of the other - the street door could not be opened outside without a key, for I had cut the string. I am sure I shut it after me; there had been a string brought through a hole to pull the latch up, but not at that time. I know nothing

of the prisoner - there are two working men in the house, who generally go out about six o'clock.

The prisoner received an excellent character.

GUILTY. Aged 16.

Of stealing to the value of 99s. only, and not of breaking and entering .

Transported for Seven Years, to the Prison Ship .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-20
VerdictGuilty > theft under 100s

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1608. ROSINA SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of August , 1 watch, value 6l.; 1 chain, value 2l.; 3 seals, value 30s., and 1 key, value 5s., the goods of George Byers , in the dwelling-house of William Finch .

SECOND COUNT, stating them to have been stolen from his person.

GEORGE BYERS . I was a coachman to Titus Berry on the 10th of August, and lodged at No. 5, Blenheim-street, Oxford-road . I met the prisoner that night, between twelve and one o'clock - I was coming up Regent-street and she overtook me, and asked me the time - I said I thought it was near twelve o'clock; she said she was afraid it was later - I pulled out my watch, and said it wanted twenty minutes to one o'clock; she said she had been spending the evening with some friends, and was afraid she was locked out, and should be obliged to walk the streets all night. I took compassion on her, and asked her to go home with me to my lodgings - she did so; we went to bed together - I put my watch under the pillow, with the seals and chain; I cannot say whether she saw me put it there - I went to sleep, and awoke about six o'clock in the morning - she was then gone, and my watch also, with the chain, seals, and key - they were worth 7l. or 8l.; I had worn the chain four or five years - it was a gold chain, three gold seals, a gold key, and a silver watch, which cost 9l. 10s. by itself, about twelve months before; she had not told me she was going - I did not know where she lived then - I saw my watch on the Monday following. at Mr. Joyce's, pawnbroker, of Euston-street, Euston-square; I had advertised it, and sent hand-bills round to the pawnbrokers. I happened to go into Joyce's shop, and asked if he had such property - and he produced the watch and appendages, all complete, as I had lost it - I had not given it to her - I am certain of her person; I did not lock my bed-room door - Mr. Finch lives in the house; I only have the second floor front room, and I am single.

ELIZA WILLIAMS . I live in Hill-street, and am out of place now. In August last I lived in the same house with the prisoner, at No. 26, Euston-crescent. On Friday, the 10th of August, some time in the morning, I saw her come home - I was then in bed. I saw her about eleven or twelve o'clock - she asked me to go and pledge a watch for her, and told me where to go. I do not know where it was - but it was in the neighbourhood; she told me to ask three sovereigns on it, but I made a mistake, and asked for two; she sent me back, and I got another on it - I gave her the three sovereigns, and the duplicate. I had only lived with her about a week - she did not say where she got the watch.

JEREMIAH HENRY JOYCE . I am a pawnbroker, and live in Crescent-street, Euston-squarre. On the 10th of August Williams pawned a watch with me, for 2l.; I asked if it was hers - she said it belonged to a Mr. Clark, of No. 26, Euston-crescent. I gave her 2l. with a ticket for the watch, chain, and seals - she returned in less than a quarter of an hour, and asked for another pound, saying, she had made a mistake. I gave her another, as it was worth the money. On the Monday following, Byers brought a hand-bill - I told him I had got the watch - he claimed it; it answered the description on his bill. I went with him and the officer, that evening, to No. 26, Euston-crescent, and Byers pointed out the prisoner, among four or five other women there - Williams was not there; the prisoner denied it strongly. I said she had better tell the truth; the property is worth 5l. in the trade. I do not think it would fetch more - I think that the full value.(Property produced and sworn to.)

GEORGE AVIS . I am a constable, and took her in charge, at No. 26, Euston-crescent. She said the watch was left with her by a gentleman the preceeding evening, to pledge, as he had no money. She denied knowing the prosecutor - I searched, but found no duplicate.

G. BYERS . I have no doubt of the watch, and am certain of her person.

Prisoner's Defence. I never saw him - it was quite a different gentleman who left it with me, and he said if I wished to pawn it I might.

GUILTY. Aged 23.

Of stealing to the value of 99s. only .

Transported for Seven Years .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-21
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1609. THOMAS SACKETT was indicted for feloniously assaulting James Sharpe , the elder , on the 22d of August , at St. Bartholomew by the Exchange , putting him in fear, and taking from his person, and against his will, 1 pocket-book, value 6d.; 1 bill of exchange for payment of and value 53l. 7s. 5d.; 1 other bill of exchange for payment of and value 150l.; 1 other bill of exchange for payment of and value 80l.; 1 other bill of exchange for payment of and value 65l. 2s. 6d.; 1 other bill of exchange for payment of and value 200l.; 1 other bill of exchange for payment of and value 25l.; 1 other bill of exchange for payment of and value 35l. 13s. 6d., and 1 other bill of exchange for payment of and value 25l.; 1 promissory note for payment of and value 300l., and 1 other promissory note for payment of and value 100l. , the property of the said James Sharpe , against the statute.

MR. JAMES SHARPE , SEN. I live at No. 6, City-terrace, City-road. I have been a clerk in Messrs. Hankey's banking-house for fifteen years, and am still with them. On the 22d of August I left their banking-house in Fenchurch-street, at four o'clock in the afternoon, and then had a pocket-book in my inside coat pocket, containing bills of exchange for 53l. 7s. 5d., 150l., 80l., 65l. 2s. 6d., 200l., 25l. 35l. 13s. 6d., 25l., also a 300l. and a 100l. promissory note - they were all in my pocket-book, and my coat was buttoned up from the time I put the book into my pocket, till I came to the end of Copthall-buildings, where I saw five or six men standing, as if in conference with each other, they were close to the posts at the end of Copthall-buildings, by the passage which leads into Bell-alley - I did not observe the features of any of them; as I was going between the posts, a hustling began among them, and they stopped me; I could not go forward nor backward, as I was surrounded by them (I knew nothing of the party at all) - I was hustled for some time by these men, and at last they got

so violent, that I really became apprehensive for the consequences of it - I was quite frightened; when they had hustled me for a small space of time, with violence, then they all dispersed in a moment; they all ran off. I immediately looked down, and found my coat had been opened - I felt for my pocket-book, and that was gone, with the contents. I have not since seen it, or any of the property in it; I have no recollection of the features of any of the persons. I gave an alarm, and said I was robbed of my pocket-book; I saw the prisoner in custody within ten minutes - Brady, I think, had him - only one person was secured.

Cross-examined by MR. BRODRICK. Q. Have you a son or relation named James? A. I have a son, James, about twenty-five years of age; this happened about a quarter-past four o'clock in the afternoon; the place is a considerable thoroughfare. I could not tell at what time of the transaction the pocket-book was taken. I suppose it was when the violent hustling began - it all happened in less than two minutes.

MR. THOMAS EDWARDS . I am a member of the Stock Exchange. I was passing from Copthall-court into Bell-alley, about a quarter-past four o'clock on this afternoon; there are some posts there - I saw Mr. Sharpe, and observed a very unnecessary confusion in passing; there were several men there, and the prisoner among them - it was not till the party separated that I could see Mr. Sharpe, he being a short man, and so surrounded by them; I could not at that instant distinguish him - about five or six persons were surrounding him, besides others who were passing at the time, and had nothing to do with it. I heard a person observe, "The conduct of those men is more like pick-pockets than anything else." I was waiting to get by at the time, and hearing that observation, I took more notice; Mr. Sharpe appeared very much agitated; the persons separated rather in haste; there was only one I could fix my attention on, and that was the prisoner. I can speak to him with the greatest confidence, he was not so far from me as I am from your Lordship; I asked Mr. Sharpe if he had lost any thing - he felt his pockets, and said "I have lost my pocket-book." I asked him if any thing of consequence was in it; he said between 200l. and 300l. I instantly left him, and ran back through the posts, and caught the prisoner by the arm; he was walking at a rapid pace, and two others of the gang were also walking rapidly. I said to the prisoner, "I observed you there under very suspicious circumstances, the old gentleman has lost his pocket-book, and you must not go till you give some account of yourself," he hesitated at the moment and appeared to doubt that I should suspect him. I said, I certainly would not lose sight of him, and resisttance was in vain; he then professed great readiness to accompany me. Mr. Clarke immediately came up, and said"I am sure that is one of the men;" the prisoner was very near, and I suppose must have heard it - I think he was nearer to the prisoner than I am to your Lordship. Mr. Clarke did not speak very loud - I begged of Mr. Clarke to run after the two other men, but none were secured; the prisoner walked down with me to the end of the court - I walked by his side, and while I was speaking to Mr. Clarke he had walked on rapidly some paces, I followed him again and overtook him, and soon after met Brady, the officer, and gave him in charge - he took him into a shop. I am quite confident he is one of the persons who surrounded Mr. Sharpe - when he was in the shop, he accounted for his being seen stooping down, by saying some of the party had lost a few shillings. I had not seen him stooping down - he said he had stooped down because himself, or one of the party, had dropped a few shillings; I will not say his exact words, but it was to that effect - that himself or some of the party had dropped a few shillings; whether it was himself, or one of the party, I will not undertake to say - I had seen no stooping down myself, not so as to swear to it - he was taken to the Mansion-house, and refused to give any account of it. I have not the slightest doubt of his being one of the persons.

Cross-examined. Q. How far from where you saw Mr. Sharpe did you come up with the prisoner, when he was walking? A. I should think about fifty yards, it might be seventy; I had asked Mr. Sharpe if he had lost anything.

Q. Was your attention at that time drawn off to Mr. Sharpe? A. Certainly - I did not see any person do anything - I think I saw a person stooping, but will not swear it.

Q. You followed some persons who were walking quickly? A. Yes; their backs were towards me.

Q. Before you saw Mr. Sharpe, you had your eye on the party? A. Yes; the instant the observation was made about their conduct I spoke to Mr. Sharpe - I saw the prisoner before I spoke to Mr. Sharpe, it was long enough to distinguish him, it might be a quarter of a minute at the least - eight or nine persons might be collected, waiting to get through the posts like myself.

Q. Do you happen to know how easy it is to mistake a man's face? A. Yes; but it is not easy to mistake a yellow handkerchief, and boots, much larger than are usually worn, without tops to them, and a tall man like him - he had a yellow handkerchief, and boots of a peculiar character, which attracted my attention, as well as his features, and his back more particularly. I saw his back and face also; not both at the same instant, but during the time - the crowd was very close together; the prisoner was an outside one.

Q. When a crowd is collected, can you see who has boots on? A. Yes; he being outside the crowd, but one of them; I noticed his being a very tall, powerful man; I was going to remoustrate with them at first, for pushing in that way against an old gentleman - and when I heard about pick-pockets, I noticed them more - I took hold of him, but when he consented to go quietly I let go of him; he walked on before me eight or ten yards, and I came up to him; he walked away at a very rapid pace - he did not run - the others ran away when they got to the corner; they were all strangers to me - whether they were acquainted together I do not know.

Q. You did not see them do anything? A. I saw them very active in surrounding the gentleman; I saw him among the crowd, very active in opposing resistance to any one who attempted to come through the posts, as I thought, but when they separated and the cry of Pickpockets! was given, then I found what they had been about - a considerable quantity of silver was found on him; I believe nearly 3l. but none of the property - Mr. Sharpe was agitated, and said he had lost 200l. or 300l.; but directly he got to the Mansion-house, he said 1200l.

WILLIAM CLARKE . I am a clerk in the London Life

Assurance-office. I was passing in Copthall-buildings at the time in question, and noticed a number of persons standing round by the iron posts: I was informed Mr. Sharpe had been robbed of his pocket-book - I did not see him at first, but when I heard he had lost his pocket-book, I saw him - I saw three persons going in the direction which the prisoner went, and several persons going towards Bell-alley: I distinguished the prisoner's person quite plain - When I first saw him he was at a less distance than I am from your Lordship. I joined Mr. Edwards in the pursuit, and overtook the prisoner. I then went to see after two others, but did not succeed. I walked with Mr. Sharpe to the Mansion-house - the office was closed. I attended the examination next morning, and had no doubt of the prisoner's person then, nor have I now. I have no doubt of his being one of the men I saw at the posts at the time Mr. Sharpe was robbed.

Cross-examined. Q. Do I understand that your attention was first directed by hearing it said Mr. Sharpe was robbed? A. My attention was first directed by seeing a number of persons together. I directly put my watch into my pocket for safety; that was before I heard Mr. Sharpe had lost his pocket-book. I suppose seven or eight persons were collected - I was not in the crowd.

Q. There was a crowd? A. There were seven or eight persons round the posts. The passage is not more than four feet wide, I should think: they completly blocked up the passage - I could not see beyond them.

Q. When they dispersed did not ten or twelve go away together? A. No - I saw no persons walking but myself and Mr. Edwards: he (Mr. Edwards) was close to the crowd; I was further from them.

JOHN BRADY . I am a constable of Broad-street Ward. I was going down Broad-street, and saw a crowd of people coming up: I asked a person what was the matter - they sent me down to Copthall-court, but I met Mr. Edwards in Broad-street: he said, "This man has hustled a gentleman, and he has been robbed:" he charged the prisoner with it. I secured him, and took him into a grocer's shop, and searched him, but found none of the property.

Prisoner's Defence. I have only to observe that I was passing accidentally through the court at the time: several other persons seemed obstructing the passage; I passed, as several others did, and did not notice any thing that was going on - I passed through the crowd, through three or four persons - I got through, and was going along another street, out of the passage, when a gentleman accosted me, and asked if I had not come through that court - I said Yes: he said a gentleman had lost his pocket-book there - I said I knew nothing about it; he said it was very suspicious; I said, "If you think it was me, you are at liberty to search me, or I will go any where with you." That is all I know of the transaction.

MR. EDWARDS. I am not certain that the prisoner said he himself was stooping down.

Two witnesses gave the prisoner a good character, but stated they had known nothing of him for the last three or four months.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 28.

Recommended to Mercy by the Prosecutor, not having sustained any personal injury .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-22
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1610. EMMA PRATT was indicted for stealing on the 26th of June , 1 purse, value 2d.; 2 sovereigns, 2 half-sovereigns, and 3 shillings , the property of John Diamond , her master .

ANN GEORGIANA DIAMOND . I am the wife of John Diamond - we live in St. Paul's Church Yard ; the prisoner was our only servant ; she came to us on the 12th of May, with a good character. On Saturday, the 16th of June, I came from market, between twelve and one o'clock in the day, and am certain I had this money in my purse, which was in my bag - I gave her some things to carry down stairs, and went up into the dining-room; she came up soon after and said, she had had a fall; I gave her a glass of wine; she went up stairs, and I went up to my room, and then missed my purse - I had been home about half an hour; I sent her to look on the stairs for it, with a candle; she continued with me till the 23d of July; our lodgers discharged their servant; she charged the prisoner with something, and we all went up to the prisoner's room to search her box; nobody but her slept there. I found in a box there, (of which she had the key.) my purse, with other things; the box was not locked; it contained nothing else but her apparel - I am confident of the purse, having made it myself - it was empty; she knew it to be mine as well as I did - she had frequent opportunities of seeing it; she was present, and directly it was found, she knelt down and begged forgiveness, and said she would never do the same again. I had simply said,"Oh! Emma, how could you do this?" the box was not hers; she had none, and used this of mine, which I had no objection to.

ANN McPHAILE . I lodge at this house. Mrs. Jones and I each keep a shop there. On the 16th of June I heard of this purse being lost; it was known all through the house. I was present when it was found in the box; her mistress said, "Oh! Emma," and held it up; she fell on her knees, and said, "Forgive me Ma'am, and I will tell you all."

WILLIAM HENRY JACKSON . I am a street-keeper, and took her in charge. She told me in the witnesses presence voluntarily, that she had bought two gowns, a pair of stockings and stays, a piece of calico, and a piece of muslin, a pair of shoes, and a work box, with the money. I found the work-box and a silver thimble in it.

MRS. DIAMOND. The work-box and thimble are not mine.


Strongly recommended to Mercy . - Confined 3 Months .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-23
VerdictNot Guilty

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1611. WILLIAM PAYNE was indicted for stealing on the 31st of August , 1 trunk, value 2s.; 1 coat, value 2l.; 1 waistcoat, value 5s.; 1 pair of trousers, value 10s.; 1 watch, value 8l.; 6 shirts, value 20s.; 6 neckerchiefs, value 6s., and 6 handkerchiefs, value 6s. , the goods of James Bucknall .

JAMES BUCKNALL . I am a medical man , and live at Plymouth. On the 31st of August I came to town, by the Oxonian Shrewsbury coach, between nine and ten o'clock at night - the guard delivered me my trunk in the Bull and Mouthlnn-yard , Aldergate-street ; I delivered it to my servant, with other luggage, but he did not understand the trunk to be mine - I saw it close to the coffee-room door, and missed it in five minutes - it contained the articles stated. I was informed a man had taken it out of the yard - my brother and the porter went in pursuit with me; my brother took the prisoner with it in Aldergate-street -

he was perfectly intoxicated, and could say nothing for himself. I think he really was drunk, for he had a bottle of cherry brandy in his hand; the trunk was not opened; I did not wish to detain him, but the porter of the Inn would.

JOHN ELLIS . I am porter at the Bull and Mouth. I saw the prisoner take the trunk up in the yard; and thinking him a passenger, I asked if I should carry it for him; he staggered, and appeared drunk; he said No, he could take it himself - I led him by the window, fearing he might fall through; when it was missed I went and took him by the arm, and said he must come back; he said very well.

SAMUEL STARKEY . I am constable of the night; the prisoner was much intoxicated.

Prisoner's Defence. I went to see for a parcel for a friend, who lives in Sidney-place; a gentleman in the yard asked me to carry the trunk, and I was to have 2s. 6d.


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-24
VerdictGuilty > theft under 100s

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Second Middlesex Jury - Before Mr. Justice Gazelee.

1612. JAMES SOPER was indicted for stealing, on the 18th of July , 60 books, value 9l., the goods of James Hollis and Henry Yarwood , in the dwelling-house of Mary Gignor .

JAMES HOLLIS . I live in Lower Union-place, Maiden-lane, Battle-bridge, and am a bookseller . On the 18th of July, at eight o'clock in the evening, I went into the Sunderland Arms public-house, with Henry Yarwood, who was then my partner; the prisoner was there - I knew him before, as a solicitor for orders for publications ; he went there with us as part of our company; we had some refreshment - I left sixty books with the landlady's daughter in the bar, saying we (meaning my partner and I) would call for them in the morning; the prisoner was in the taproom, with my partner, and within hearing; they were Bibles, Prayer, and other books, and were worth 9l., - Yarwood and I went next day for them, but did not get them; we had authorized nobody to call for them.

HENRY YARWOOD . I was in partnership with Hollis, and was in the tap-room when he proposed to leave the books with the landlady's daughter - I went with him next morning, but did not get them - I had authorized nobody to call for them.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Have you any second Christian name? A. Yes; Henry William.

COURT. Q. Have you always gone by that name? A. No; I go by the name of Henry alone - I always sign my name Henry only - I am thirty-two years old - I never use the name of William: but that name is in my baptismal register - I have no recollection of ever writing my name as William.

ELIZABETH COOK . My mother keeps the Sunderland Arms public-house, Sackville-street, Picadilly. Between seven and eight o'clock in the evening Hollis left two parcels with me, which appeared to contain books; he was to call for them - I do not recollect that he said when he would call; a person called for them between eight and nine o'clock that evening - I was busy at the time, and am not quite certain of the man, but think I had seen him before; he said, "I have called for those books," I told him to take them; he took one parcel away, and returned in a short time for the other; he returned a third time, and called for a pint of beer, which I told the servant to take him, and to see if he was the man who had left the books; he was a tall man: he went out, and did not have the beer.

CATHERINE FOSSETT . In July last I lived at the Man in the Moon public-house. The prisoner came to the bar with another man, one day in July, after eight o'clock at night, and had a glass of liquor; the prisoner asked if I would let him leave a parcel for a short time - I asked if it would be long before he called for it; he said not ten minutes - I took it from his hands; it contained books; they both went away; he did not call again; the books remained at our house for three weeks; when Hollis came I gave them to him.

JAMES HOLLIS . Fossett gave me about thirty of the books - I produce four of them - I am certain they are ours, and part of what I left at the Sunderland Arms public-house - I should sell them for 9l. if new, but we reckon near cent. per cent., as we lose so much by the wear of them - they are worth 4l. 10s.

Prisoner's Defence. I never entered the house after I came out with the prosecutors.

JAMES HOLLIS . There was a fourth man drinking with us when I left the goods, and that man has absconded; he was in the same occupation as the prisoner; he is a fullfaced tallish man; but there are about two inches difference in their height; he has a full face, something like the prisoner.

ELIZABETH COOK . I am not certain whether any one was in the room with him when he called for the beer - he called for it as he passed the bar.

GUILTY. Aged 34.

Of stealing to the value of 99s. only .

Confined Three Months .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-25
VerdictNot Guilty > non compos mentis

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1613. JAMES JONES was indicted for feloniously, wilfully, maliciously, and unlawfully assaulting Margaret Merrett , and striking and cutting her on her face and head, with intent of his malice aforethought to kill and murder her .

TWO OTHER COUNTS, stating his intent to be to disable, or to do her some grievous boddy harm.

MR. BRODRICK conducted the prosecution.

MARGARET MERRETT . I am now blind. I lived with James Jones as his wife, for twenty-three or twenty-four years. On Sunday, the 27th of May, we were living together at Mr. Burgess', No. 9, Long-alley; he is a tailor - we were at home all day, except that he was out a little in the morning; we had our dinners very comfortably, and after dinner I was very poorly, and went to lay down - I told him if he would lay down too I would make the bed out for him; he said he would not lay down, he was going to take a walk - I laid down, and left him sitting by the fire - I fell asleep; I heard him get up out of his chair, and thought he was going to take a walk: but I looked up and saw him coming towards me with the poker - I never spoke to him, nor he to me, before I received a blow across my eye, and I could not see afterwards - I put my hands up to save my head, and received a blow on my fingers, two of

which it broke, and cut my head also very much - I had another blow on the side of my head - I cannot tell how many blows I received - I felt several blows on my head - I cried murder twice, and he went out of the room; there was nobody in the room except us two - I did not hear his footsteps after he got out of the room, which is on the first floor; he did not go up stairs - I was crying to myself; my landlady came to my assistance - I was taken to St. Bartholomew's Hospital. We were very comfortable all day Saturday and Sunday; we breakfasted and dined together - I had no dispute with him at all - I think I laid down about half-past one, it might be a quarter of an hour later when he came and struck me - I looked up when I heard him stir - he had been very bad in his head a month before Christmas, and he went to Bethnal-green mad-house about a week after Christmas - he used to get out, and walk about, talking all manner of stuff, and he would get out of bed in the night; we were then taking care of Mr. Payne's house in Earl-street, for six months; he was sent to the mad-house from there - I got an order from the churchwardens to have him out of the mad-house, when he had been there a fortnight, as I thought he was not well used; he was not discharged as well (he came back to Mr. Payne's); he seemed unhappy when I went to see him, and said he could not eat anything that was in the house; he was very ill in his bowels after he came out; nothing but blood came from his bowels, and all like pieces of flesh; two doctors attended him; he had got well enough to go out before this happened - Mr. Bracker, the tailor, of Bell-alley, employed him; he only worked a little at a time; we worked at home - I used to fetch and carry it home - I had given him a sovereign on the Saturday, to go and buy something for dinner, and when he came in, I asked for the change - he said he could keep it as well as me - I did not care how long he kept it, so that he did not go drinking with it; he gave me 6s. of it in the afternoon, and 8s. on Sunday morning; he said he should do no good with it, and when he got a little liquor, he gave away a shilling among half-pence.

Cross-examined by MR. BARRY. Q. Do you know how old he is? A. I dare say he is full seventy-two or seventy-three; we always lived very happy together. I am sure I saw him come to me with the poker - he would not go out to drink sometimes for three or four months: he was a very bad temper when he got drunk: he has been flighty ever since I knew him, whenever he got beer - he had no money in his pocket when I gave him the sovereign - he said he had a few halfpence; he had not been drinking the night before, but I knew he had that morning. I had the care of Payne's house, and I always took the work home, and received the money for it every Saturday. He had earned the sovereign.

Q. What had he been doing when he was sent to the mad-house? A. He got drinking a little gin, and that drove him raving mad; he got a mob round him, and they were afraid he would do some mischief; I applied to the churchwardens to take him to his own parish, and me to mine, about five weeks before this happened; as I was afraid of personal violence - our parishes are only a mile apart. The churchwarden promised to come, and the very Monday after this happened he came to take him away. I had not changed my mind about his going - I thought if he was not able to work if I was down there I could assist him.

COURT. Q. Did you, during this five weeks, think it unsafe to leave him at large? A. I did go away from him once or twice, but he was so unhappy I was obliged to go back to him; I left him because when he was in that way, he was so hot in his temper, I did not know what might happen. I thought he was attached to me, and wanted to see me again; I had said nor done anything to provoke him - he had no accident with his head while I knew him, but I have heard that he had, from his brother, who is dead. He had a daughter living in Peter-street, Sun-street, and a brother in Rosemary-lane; he always treated me kindly - we were affectionate together. I did all I could to make him comfortable. I have only one child. I am quite blind.

ELIAS TAYLOR WARRY . I am one of the house-surgeons of St. Bartholomew Hospital. This woman was brought there on Sunday, the 27th of May - I examined her about four o'clock that day - there were four wounds on her head, and a contused wound across the nose, and a contused wound on her left hand, which fractured two of her fingers - the contused wound across the nose had deprived her of sight; two of the wounds were on the back of the head, and two on the left temple - they had the character of incised wounds. I should have said those four wounds had been done by a cutting instrument she has lost her sight from a rupture of the coats of the eye: the crystal fluid has escaped. I do not see the least probability of her recovering her sight.

Cross-examined. Q. Should you have called them incised wounds without the word "character" if you had not heard how it was done? A. Yes; there was a slight confusion, but not sufficient to call them contused; they had more the appearance of incised wounds - it is possible they might be made with a poker and yet have the character of incised wounds - I should call them cuts.

ELIZABETH BURGESS . I am the wife of Benjamin Burgess . The prisoner and the prosecutrix lodged with us for a month or five weeks. On Sunday, the 27th of May, I saw the prisoner in the morning, about nine o'clock, and saw him go out of the street door, between two and three o'clock; he said, "I have done for her:" I understood him to say so - he was talking to himself, as he went out - he did not address himself to me. I, my little girl, and my son went up to her room, and found her sitting on the bed, with her face covered with blood, leaning against the wall, with her hands up, wiping down the blood; she was so covered with blood I could not see her face till she wiped it down: she said something to me; Rice, a lodger, came into the room. My son took up the poker, and looked at it, in consequence of what she said - there was a little blood and hair on it, and it was bent. I sent for a surgeon, who washed her head with sponge; I saw it bleeding very much, and a place on the side of the head, which looked like cuts, bled. I did not see the prisoner again till he was taken. I had observed nothing particular in his conduct while at our house.

Cross-examined. Q. How near were you to him when he used these words? A. I was in my room, but the door was open. I saw him go along the passage, and thought he went rather quicker than usual; my room door

opens into the passage; the surgeon who came was somebody from Mr. Robarts, of Sun-street; he cut a great deal of hair off.

COURT. Q. Did you hear any noise or cry to lead you up stairs? A. My little girl called me, and as I was going up, I heard the woman cry; all the four wounds on her head were bleeding.

SARAH BURGESS . I am the last witness' daughter, and am between nine and ten years old. I fetched the prisoner's dinner home on this day, and he told me to fetch the beer - when I brought it, Mrs. Jones gave me a halfpenny; I went down stairs, and after that I saw the prisoner in the passage, and heard him say, "I have done for her;" I went up stairs with my mother, as I heard Mrs. Jones crying.

Cross-examined. Q. How near were you to him when he said this? A. Nearly close to him; he must have seen me - any body might hear him.

BENJAMIN BURGESS . I was at my father's, and saw the prisoner going out at the front door, about half-past two; I think the words he said were, "She has got it now - I have done for her." I heard a faint cry a few seconds before that, and thought it was a neighbour beating a child; I ran up stairs, and saw Mrs. Jones sitting on the bed, with her head against the wall; the bed was on the ground - she was covered with blood; I could not discern her features; there appeared three or four cuts on the head - they were clotted with blood, and her hair matted together; I could not tell whether they were cuts. I took up the poker - it was bent, and had a little blood and hair on it; it is here - the edges are very sharp; I think the one produced is the same.

Cross-examined. Q. Where was you when the prisoner came down? A. In the parlour.

JAMES RICE . I am a shoemaker. The prisoner lodged in the house, but I never spoke to him. On the 27th of May I was at home, and heard a faint crying; I went into the room, took the poker into my own room, and gave it to the officer - that produced is the same.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you present when the surgeon examined the head? A. Yes; he cut her hair away, and I saw four cuts; I could not call them any thing else, they bled profusely.

JONATHAN LOVETT . I am a watchman. On the 28th of May, about half-past three o'clock in the morning, I was at the corner of Lamb-alley, Long-alley, and saw the prisoner coming towards home; as soon as he saw me, he turned back again. I had heard of this, and went after him - I overtook him, tapped him on the shoulder, and said,"Old gentleman, I want you;" he said, "Is my poor wife dead?" I said I did not know, but I believe she was; he said he was most sure she must be, and said, "The Lord have mercy upon me, I am done for - and I hope the Lord will receive her soul; but she should not have aggravated me so - I did it in the heat of passion." I asked how he could be so cruel as to beat her so; he said he did not know, he had done it in his passion; I asked if he had done it all with the poker; he said, Yes; I asked if he had not a knife; he said he had done it all with a poker. I then took him to the watch-house.

Cross-examined. Q. He said she should not have aggravated him so? A. Yes; and that he had asked her for some money, but she would not give him any, and that caused a few words between then.

JOSEPH WALTON . I am headborough of the parish. I received the poker on Sunday from the surgeon, and marked it - this is it; I gave it to Garton; the surgeon is an assistant to Mr. Robarts, of Sun-street; I believe he is out of town; we cannot find him.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you there when the wounds were dressed? A. Yes; she was taken to the hospital immediately he dressed them; I did not examine them particularly, but thought, from what I saw, that they had been done by the sharp side of the poker.

THOMAS GARTON . I am an officer. Rice fetched me - I conveyed the woman to the hospital.

The prisoner being called upon for his defence, entered into a long and unconnected account of his having fetched some victuals on the Saturday, and his feeling strange in his head; that on Sunday, after dinner, the prosecutrix had presented a stick at him, by which he understood her to mean he was to go about his business - that she then gave him some rum, and said she had done with him, and on his asking the reason she said it was useless to talk to a madman, and that she laid down - He then proceeded "As I sat by the fire something came over - I could give no account of it; I could get no command of myself till I walked a mile and a half or two miles - I then thought I had done wrong, and was sorry for it, and have been sorry from that time to this;" that he got a bed in Wentworth-street, but could not sleep; and about three o'clock in the morning went to give himself up - and that at times he had no command of himself.

JOHN PAYNE . I am a smith, and live in Earl-street. The prisoner and his wife took care of my house from the 1st of September to April, this year. I believe, at times, he was decidedly insane; shortly after he came to my house I went into the kitchen one morning - he asked how I did; I said I had a giddiness in my head; he said he had been affected many years in his head, and told me a story about his walking over different bridges; and said, "I was very ill a long time, but once, when I got to the centre of London-bridge I met the devil, I took him in my arms, and threw him over into the water;" I said, "If you killed the devil, how did you feel then?" he said, "I was quite well then, and came home to my work;" I considered him then not right in his head; I had him sent from my house to Warburton's, about the beginning of January, which was some time after this conversation; he used to talk irrational and incoherent, for a fortnight or three weeks before I had him moved; I had seen him decidedly deranger, and was afraid to keep him in the house - his wife tells me he expressed a wish to kill his brother - and I have heard him say very bad things about his brother; I was obliged to keep his brother down in my shop on the morning he was taken away; it is my full impression that at times he is insane.

MR. BRODRICK. Q. Did you see him after he came from Warburton's? A. He returned in a fortnight or three weeks to my house, and stopped till April; he was extremely ill in bodily health, and had a doctor attending him daily; he talked rational when he came back, but I avoided his company then; I was always afraid of him, as he still talked strange things, which made me sure he was out of his mind.

COURT. Q. Was you under the same impression as to

the state of his mind, when he left you in April? A. Yes; I did not think him in his right mind; he was always very fond of this woman, and she of him; they seemed to live comfortably together; when he was taken from my house, he said, "Mr. Payne, I hope you will take care of my wife"- I then thought she was his wife.

JOHN ROBINSON . I am churchwarden of St. Andrew by the Wardrobe. I first saw the prisoner on the 3d of January. Mr. Payne applied to me to have him taken care of; I saw him, and, supposing him in an unsound state of mind, I got Mr. Houghton, a surgeon, to examine him; he gave me a certificate previous to sending him to Warburton's; the woman applied to me afterwards for an order to get him out, which I complied with; he came out very ill; Mr. Houghton and Mr. Burn attended him for about three months; about three weeks previous to this affair, the prosecutrix applied to me, saying he had gone into his old condition, and wished him returned to Bath. I went the same day, and saw him on his shopboard; he said, "Sir, you see in what state I am, and I wish to get to Bath." I considered him insane at that time.

MR. HOUGHTON. I am a surgeon. I attended the prisoner on the 3d of January; I found him looking very wild, and talking incoberent; I questioned him; I considered him certainly of unsound mind, and certified that he was fit for confinement; that was the honest persuasion of my mind. I saw him on the 17th of January, on his return from Warburton's; the last time I saw him was on the 30th of January; I then thought his mind in some measure improved, but he was evidently still labouring under delusion.

COURT. Q. Are these delusions the test of insanity? A. Certainly; I have heard the woman's account of his bowel complaint; its being attended with bleeding would be very beneficial to his state of mind; it would improve it; and on his getting stronger, the delusion would be more likely to return.

NOT GUILTY, being insane at the time .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-26
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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1614. PATRICK READY was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of August , in the dwelling-house of Thomas McCarthy , one 5l. Bank note , the property of John Thompson .

JOHN THOMPSON . I am a seaman . I was paid off from the Mercy, sloop, on Friday, the 24th of August. I received twelve 5l. Bank notes, eleven sovereigns, and some silver, at two different offices at Somerset-house - I paid away two 5l. notes that night, to a boatswain; I put the rest into my pocket in a housewife; after that I bought a purse, into which I put eight of the notes and some gold, leaving two notes and the rest of the gold, in the housewife. I slept that night at a lodging-house, kept by McCarthy, near the watch-house - I went to bed about ten o'clock; the prisoner slept in the same bed with me - I put my purse and housewife into my jacket pocket; I put it under my pillow; he came to bed immediately after me. I got up at eight o'clock - my purse and housewife were then in my pocket; I went down, leaving him in bed; we went out together that morning twice; we came in again, and about five o'clock went into the room, and he laid down on one bed and I on the other - when I awoke I asked him who had shut the door, as I left it open, he said he did - I said I could not open it - he got up and opened it; we were out and in, all day together, walking and having grog. I was not quite sober, but knew what I was doing; I went down stairs, and he came down in a few minutes - I felt that my purse and housewife were safe, but did not examine them. I went out between six and seven o'clock to buy something for Elizabeth White , the landlord's daughter - she went with me; I bought some things at a shop, and on overhauling my housewife, the two 5l. notes were gone, also some gold and silver; the rest of the money was in my purse. I had changed no notes, and only spent a few shillings in liquor - the prisoner was not with me then; White and I came out of the shop and went into a public-house, staid there some time, and there was a good deal of disturbance. I took off my jacket and laid it on the bar; the housewife was in my jacket pocket, but there was no notes in it then. I told Mrs. White to mind it - she said she would; the prisoner was not there - I went out without my jacket; some girls picked me up - I carried them under my arms a little way down the street, and one of them snatched my purse from my pocket. I am sure I had two notes in the housewife.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. How long had you lodged at McCarthy's? A. Two days; before I received the money, I asked the prisoner to go with me to receive it, but he declined. Mrs. White went by her father's name, Miss McCarthy; she has altered it to White. I went to two public-houses on my way from Somerset-house - I was quite sober all Friday; I had been drinking in the house that evening with the prisoner and other lodgers - there was no quarrel. I did not count my money on Saturday; we only went to two public-houses - I was not drunk; I cannot tell at what house I lost it, but it was before I went to the shop. I passed a girl of the town in the street, but had no conversation with her.

Q. Did you not give the prisoner money that day, to go and dine with? A. No; I am certain of that.

COURT. Q. You and the prisoner went out about eight o'clock in the morning? A. Yes; we came in together about two o'clock - we had been together all the time; we did not dine together that day. I went up to lay in the bed and went to sleep - he laid on the next bed to me; I do not know when he came up, but I found him there when I awoke - that was about five o'clock.

JOHN PERREN . I attend an eating-house, kept by my sister, in Lower East Smithfield. The prisoner came there with Welch, between three and four o'clock in the afternoon; I think it was three weeks ago last Saturday - he called for dinner, which the waiter carried them, and after they had dined the prisoner pulled out a 5l. note, and gave me - I was not in the habit of changing notes, but I did at last, they paid me 1s. 6d.; - I gave him the change. I have the note here, it is No. 18,561, dated the 27th of July, 1827 - it has been in my sister's possession part of the time. I know it to be the same, by two spots of grease which I saw on it when I took it; I took it up stairs to my sister directly, and got it from her on the Monday morning, as the officer brought the prisoner to the house, and asked if he had changed a note there - he asked me the number - I said I could not tell, but I should know it again by two spots

of grease on it. I went up with my sister, picked the note out, and brought it down - I delivered it to my sister again, and got it from her to take to the office, and gave it to her when I returned - I got it from her again on Monday; I am certain it is the same, by the spot of grease on the back, nearly at each end.

JOHN WELCH . I am a seaman. I had just come on shore - I first saw the prisoner on Thursday, the 23d of August, at the head of the London-docks; I saw him again on Saturday at the dock-gate, he treated me with a dinner at Perren's, between three and four; he asked me to go and dine - I told him I should be better pleased if I was at home than if I had 15l. - he said he was worth nearly that himself; he put his hand into his pocket and pulled out two 5l. notes and four sovereigns - I looked at them in his hand, he put them into his pocket again - he paid Perren one of the 5l. notes at the counter; I asked where he got the money; he said he had wrote home for it - I knew he came from the north-west of Ireland.

Cross-examined. Q. When did you first see the prosecutor? A. On the Monday following - I have since been lodging at McCarthy's.

THOMAS AMES . I am a constable. I took the prisoner on the 27th of August, and told him the charge; he said Thompson gave him the 5l. note to get his dinner with - I learnt he had changed a note at Perren's, and in going along he told me he had had the note for two or three months, and took it for wages; I took him to Perren's, who produced the note; he said nothing about it - I took the number, which was 18,561.

Cross-examined. Q. When did you make that memorandum of the number? A. I copied it this morning from my book, in which I entered it at the time - he told me two different stories about it within ten minutes; he said he had given Thompson the change - I took him as he was leaving his lodging with his chest, and there was a mob round the door.

JAMES HENRY SCOTT . I am a clerk in the Navy Pay-office. On the 24th of August I paid Thompson twelve 5l. Bank notes - I do not recollect the dates of them, so as to be able to swear to them; but I was in the office on the 15th of August, when some notes were brought from the Bank - I know the numbers of the notes I paid Thompson were fifty-nines and following numbers, but whether hundreds or thousands I cannot say - they were following numbers; I recollect it from the circumstance of having requested him not to take the whole of it - that is our general practice, as there is danger of their soon getting rid of it.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you your book with you? A. Yes; it is only a memorandum of the payment; the numbers of the notes are not entered. He was an unusual time in the room, which makes me recollect the circumstance.

JOHN HAWKES . I am a clerk in the Bank. On the 15th of August we paid a draft to the Treasurer of the Navy, and among other notes were two hundred 5l., numbers 18,501 to 18,700, dated the 27th of July.

Cross-examined. Q. Are there not duplicates of Bank notes? A. Not of the same date. I never knew a mistake of that sort, but have heard that it has happened; I paid the draft to a messenger of the Navy.

WILLIAM JUDGE . I am a Thames Police surveyor. On the 27th of August, I was passing Perren's shop, and saw the prisoner in Ames custody; I asked what it was about; Ames said, he had robbed a man of a 5l. note and changed it there - I asked the prisoner where he got the note, he said, Thompson had given it him to get some victuals with, and he had given him the change. I asked Thompson, who was present, if that was the case; he said, No, it was not, he had given him no note, nor received any change. Perren produced the note - I took the number of it - it was 18,561, dated the 27th of July, 1827 - here is the memorandum which I took at the time.

Cross-examined. Q. Did not the prisoner say they were both drunk? A. No.

Prisoner's Defence. On the Friday I was selling apples in the street; he sent a person to mind my stall, and took me to drink with him - he went into a public-house, and kicked up a row with the landlady - the landlord turned him out; two girls of the town were there; he stripped to fight - I held his jacket; two Jews wanted to hold it, but I would not let them - I slept with him that night, but he did not pull off his clothes - in the morning he went to several places and got drunk; he was flourishing his money about. I took him home; I asked him for some money to get a dinner, and he gave me the 5l. note; he was drunk after that, and laid on the bed - I went and laid on the next bed.

JOHN THOMPSON . I did not give him any note, nor did he give me any change.

GUILTY. Aged 20.

Of stealing, but not in the dwelling-house .

Transported for Seven Years .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-27
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1615. WILLIAM RAMSDALL was indicted for feloniously assaulting Marshall Bruce Waters , on the King's highway, on the 6th of September , at St. Giles in the Fields , putting him in fear, and taking from his person, and against his will, 1 watch, value 15s. , his property.

MARSHALL BRUCE WATERS . I am a barber , and live in Milford-place, Tottenham-court-road. On Thursday, the 6th of September, between one and two o'clock in the morning, I was passing in Tottenham-court-road, by Meux's brewhouse , in company with a shopmate; I was knocked down as I passed the brewhouse, and robbed of my watch - I was rather tipsy at the time - I believe I was struck in the breast; I recollect being knocked down, and when I got up I felt for my watch, and it was gone. I do not recollect any of the persons who were about - I was not hurt at all; I was sensible of my watch being taken from my fob; it was a silver watch; without a case; I saw it again next morning at Mary-le-bone Office - I am certain it is mine; I have had it above three years.

Prisoner. Q. Was I not taken on Wednesday? A. I was robbed on Thursday morning, the 6th of September.

JOSEPH KING . I am in the employ of Mr. Lowther, pawnbroker, of Tottenham-court-road. On the 6th of September, between eleven and one o'clock in the morning, the witness Stephens brought this watch to pawn; I detained her; she produced the prisoner as the person of whom she received it - I shewed him the watch, and he said, it was his own, and he had sent her to pawn it for him; I sent for an officer and gave him in charge, haring received information of the robbery.

ANN STEPHENS . I have known the prisoner seven or eight years; we are not related - I knew his father. He asked me to pawn this watch; it was a small watch - I went with it to Lowther's, where I always go, and he told me to go home and bring the person who sent me - I took the prisoner to him; it was between twelve and one o'clock; he told me to ask ten shillings on it - he worked at that time for his father, who is a respectable man.

WILLIAM SHEPHERD . I am a constable. I was fetched to Lowther's, and took the prisoner in charge - I asked how he came by the watch, which was without a case - I did not hold out either threat or promise to him; he said it was his own that he bought it at Birmingham when he was on the tramp - I took him to the office; I have had it ever since - the prosecutor had the case of it, and described it before he saw it, as having a scratch on the face. It was on Thursday morning that I took the prisoner.

MARSHALL BRUCE WATERS . This is my watch; I know it by a scratch on the face: it is a Liverpool watch; the ribbon was sewn up as it is now, and the same key - I had the case in pawn at the time, but I have it here now - I am sure it was safe when I was knocked down.

Prisoner's Defence. I never saw the watch till I was brought to the pawnbroker's; I was in liquor at the time, and had been drinking all night - Mrs. Stephens sent some one to ask me to come to the corner of Charlotte-street, where I saw her; she asked me to go to the pawnbroker and claim it for her.

ANN STEPHENS . It is false.

- RAMSDALL. I am the prisoner's brother. I can prove Stephens' name is not Stephens - she cohabits with a person of that name, but was married to one Lowton, ten or twelve years ago, and if she takes a false oath in that, she will swear false in any thing else.

Q. Has she not gone by the name of Stephens as long as you knew her? A. Yes - I have been from home for a year or two, till within the last two months, but my brother bore a good character while I knew him.

One other witness gave the prisoner a good character.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 18.

Recommended to Mercy by the Prosecutor in consequence of his youth .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-28
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1661. CATHERINE CONJUET was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Joseph Hoyles , on the 15th of July , at St. Matthew, Bethnalgreen , and stealing 2 watches, value 1l. 10s.; 1 pair of sugar-tongs, value 8s.; 6 tea-spoons, value 30s., and 2 saltspoons, value 5s. , his property.

JOSEPH HOYLES . I live at No. 14, Wood-street , in the parish of St. Matthew, Bethnal-green, and am a broad silk weaver. On Sunday, the 15th of July, about three o'clock in the afternoon, I and my wife went out; I have a room on the first floor, and a room over that, as a work-shop; the house is all let out to different lodgers; the landlord does not live in it; the prisoner lives in a room on the first floor also, and passes as a married woman; her husband lives with her. I locked my room-door when I went out, and put the key in my pocket, leaving nobody in the room; I have no family; we came home together about ten o'clock at night, and found the door open - I examined it, and could find no marks of violence on it; I am certain I locked it, for I tried it afterwards - when I got into the room, every thing in the drawers laid so smooth I thought nothing was gone - I went to bed, and next morning, about seven o'clock, my wife called me from the work-shop, and gave me some empty loose papers, which had contained the spoons and sugar-tongs - I then searched another drawer myself, which I had put two watches into two or three days before, and found them gone also - I searched the prisoner's room on the Tuesday night, in the presence of her husband; she was then in custody - I found four pieces of cloth, but nothing else - I had no officer with me; I tried the key of her room-door, and found it opened mine, and the key of my work-shop would also open it - I believe the drawer was left unlocked.

Cross-examined by MR. BARRY. Q. Does the landlord live in the house? A. No; I rent one half; another person another; the prisoner's husband had one half - I spoke to her husband when I came home; I do not know whether she was at home; I did not then know of the robbery.

Q. Do you know of her going to the Police-office, to complain? A. She threatened to do it for my taking her character away; she was taken on the Tuesday morning; I discovered the robbery on Monday morning; I searched her room after I had found the plate in pawn.

SARAH HOYLES . I am the prosecutor's wife - I went out with him, and am certain the door was locked; when we returned it was unlocked, and stood half open - I looked at the drawer, and found things smooth as I had left them; I thought all was safe - the drawer was not locked; next morning, before I left the room, I went to the drawer again; I found some empty papers, which had contained the sugar-tongs, six ten-spoons, and a pair of salt-spoons - I had seen them all there four or five days before - my husband searched another drawer, and missed two watches, which I had seen a few days before - I afterwards missed a table-cloth from another drawer - I had seen that on Sunday, before I went out: my husband found it in the prisoner's room cut in four pieces - I know it to be the same by the pattern: it was not an exact table-cloth, but a piece of damask wove for one - it was in one piece when I lost it.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you speak to the prisoner that night? A. I did not see her - I do not know whether she was in the house when I went out; the spoons laid at the bottom of the drawer when I last saw them.

SAMUEL GREW . I am headborough of Bethnal-green. I apprehended the prisoner by the prosecutor's desire, on Tuesday morning, at her own house, and found on her 18s. 6d. in silver, and 9d. in copper - I asked how she came by the money; she said she had saved it up from time to time.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you search her room? A. No; the prosecutor did; her door was ajar; she rose from her bed, and said if I would wait a little she would come to me; she did so - I cannot say whether she shut her door after her or not.

WILLIAM BARNES . I am shopman to Mr. Dexter, a pawnbroker, of Whitechapel-road. I am not positive of the prisoner, but think she is the person who pawned a watch with me, on the 16th of July, about ten o'clock in the

morning, for 15s., in the name of Mary Jones ; our shop is not a mile from the prosecutor's; to the best of my recollection, the prisoner is the same person - I never saw her before to my knowledge, nor since, till she was apprehended - I produce the watch - I have had it ever since; it is worth 20s.

Cross-examined. Q. I suppose many persons come to your shop? A. Yes - I do not know them all.

COURT. Q. How soon afterwards was inquiry made? A. Next day - I saw her on Thursday, but could not be positive of her.

JAMES LOCKYER . I am apprentice to Mr. Adlam, pawnbroker, of Mile-end-road. I know the prisoner; she came to our shop on Monday morning, the 16th of July, between eight and nine o'clock, and produced a metal watch, which she asked 10s. on - I took it to our young man, who would not advance so much; she then produced a pair of sugar-tongs, and pawned them together; she at last pawned the watch, sugar-tongs, six tea-spoons and two salt-spoons, for 2l., in two separate parcels, in the name of Mary Jones , housekeeper, No. 2, Dog-row, and said they were her own property - I have had them ever since, and produce them.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you examined before the Magistrate? A. Yes, on the Saturday following, and was quite as positive of her then as I am now.

JOSEPH HOYLES . I am certain these are my spoons and sugar-tongs - I know the metal watch by a crack on it, and the silver watch is partly broken, and the chain on it - I know the damask by the pattern - I have no initials on the spoons, but the maker's which correspond.

SARAH HOYLES . I know the property; the spoons are a very different shape to any I ever saw, and were made for us - I know both the watches, and the damask, by its being the end of a piece which has a mark on it.

Prisoner. I am innocent.

JOSEPH HOYLES . I understand her husband to be an officer in His Majesty's navy; they were in decent circumstances, and have no family - I believe he has a son by a former wife.

Seven witnesses gave the prisoner a good character.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 55 .

Recommended to Mercy by the Prosecutor and Jury, on account of her age and good character .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-29
VerdictGuilty > theft under 40s

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1655. AMELIA PYNE , alias RATTY , was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of January , 1 soup-ladle, value 2l. 10s., the goods of John Fleming , her master, in his dwelling-house .

MR. JOHN FLEMING . I am a chemist , and live on Holborn-hill . The prisoner was above six years in my service; she was my only female servant, and had the care of my plate. On the 20th of July, in consequence of suspicion, I called in an officer, and told him, I did not mean to prosecute her, but wished him to see if she had any of my property; he found a duplicate of this silver ladle on her; it was produced at Guildhall, and has my initials on it - I am certain it is mine; it cost me three guineas - I never gave her leave to pawn it, and cannot say when I had last seen it.

WILLIAM DRINKWATER . I am a constable. I was called in on the 20th of July, and found a duplicate on the prisoner - I went into her bed-room; she said there was a number of duplicates in a wafer-box on a chair there; and in that box I found a duplicate for this ladle - I took it to her master; he returned it to me afterwards, when I apprehended her - I went to the pawnbroker's, and found it.

WILLIAM WARRE . I am servant to Mr. Muncaster, pawnbroker, Skinner-street - I know the prisoner perfectly well. I have a silver soup-ladle, pawned by her, on the 12th of January, for 30s., in the name of Pyne, Creed-lane; she described herself as a lodger - I have known her three or four years; it has never been redeemed since.(Property produced and sworn to.)

The prisoner put in a written defence, stating that her master had failed in lending her 1l., which he had promised, and she had pawned the ladle, depending on a friend to enable her to redeem it.

MR. FLEMING. I paid her punctually, within a week of her wages being due; nothing was due to her in January - I have lent her money.

GUILTY. Aged 47.

Of stealing to the value of 39s. only .

Confined One Year .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-30

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1618. JOHN DAVIS was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of July , 1 printed book, value 2s. 6d., and 1 piece of India rubber, value 6d. , the goods of Nicholas Edgcumbe .

NICHOLAS EDGCUMBE . I live in Wellesley-street, City-road. On the 31st of July, between eleven and twelve o'clock at night. I was in Fish-street-hill , looking at the fire in Thames-street. I had Dr. Bell's System of Tuition, and a piece of India rubber, in my outside coat pocket; I felt a hand at my pocket as I stood at the fire - I said to my friend, "I am robbed;" the book and India rubber were gone; and, on turning round, I saw the prisoner behind me - several persons were near me; as I attempted to turn round I received a blow - I do not know who it was from - the prisoner was close by me - I did not see my property about him, and have not found it - it was not him who struck me, I am certain.

THOMAS AISHTON . I am a surgeon, and was in the prosecutor's company; he is training master for a central school. I was immediately behind him, and saw the prisoner with his hand in Edgcumbe's pocket; he said, "I am robbed;" and I attempted to seize the prisoner, but a blow, which Edgcumbe received, prevented me - he then made his way through the crowd; I did not lose sight of him - Edgcumbe seized him; he was given in charge, without being out of my sight - we were under a lamp, and I was nearly touching him when his hand was in the pocket.

THOMAS KILBY . I am an officer, and heard a call of watch - I received him in charge - the book has not been found.

Upon the prisoner being called upon for his defence, it was discovered that although the prisoner's name was John Davis - he was not the John Davis charged with this offence.

T. AISHTON re-examined. I never looked at the bar - this is not the man.

The John Davis committed for the offence in question, being placed at the bar, the following evidence was given.

N. EDGCUMBE , repeated his former evidence, and added,"I will not swear the prisoner is the man."

T. AISHTON . I cannot be positive of the prisoner - but the person I gave in charge is the person who put his hand into Mr. Edgcumbe's pocket. I have not seen him since he was at the Mansion-house; I think the prisoner is the man I saw at the Mansion-house; I did not swear to him then - I swear the man given in charge was the man who robbed Edgcumbe.

T. KILBY . I received the prisoner into custody on this charge - he was the only one given in my charge. I received him from Edgcumbe, who had him by the collar - I swear to him positively.

N. EDGCUMGE . Kilby came up to me, and I gave him the man in charge. I had hold of him by the collar when Kilby came up; I believe this prisoner to be the person, but will not swear it. I swear I delivered to Kilby the man who Aishton said had done it.

T. AISHTON . The person given in Kilby's charge was the person I saw with his hand in Edgcumbe's pocket. I saw Edgcumbe collar him, and swear he collared the person whose hands I saw in his pocket - he did not get out of my sight.

Prisoner's Defence. When I was taken, one gentleman said I was not the lad - another said I was; there were three gentlemen; Aishton said I was out of the way for a quarter of an hour.

T. AISHTON . I never said he was not the person - he was not out of the way; I never said so.

N. EDGCUMBE . I never said so.

T. KILBY . I never heard either of them say he was not the person - I found nothing on him.

GUILTY . Aged 15.

Transported for Seven Years .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-31
VerdictGuilty; Not Guilty

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1619. JAMES CRAWLEY and JOHN CALLAGHAN were indicted for stealing, on the 27th of July , 24 gilt pins, value 1s. , the goods of Tom Dodson , and Thomas Dodson .

THOMAS DODSON . I am in partnership with Tom Dodson ; we keep a jeweller's shop in St. Paul's-church-yard . On the 27th of July the prisoners came into the shop, and Crawley asked for a sixpenny pen-knife; and before I could answer them, they were stopped in the shop, in consequence of what was said; and I saw this paper of pins taken from Callaghan's pocket.

JARED DISS . I am a shoemaker. I was standing outside this shop, waiting for a friend, and saw the prisoners in the shop. I saw Callaghan attempt to take something which laid on the case, but he could not - Mr. Dodson was clearing the shop, and left nothing on the case but this paper of pins; I saw him take and put them into his pocket. Crawley was close to him, and stood at his elbow, while he was trying to take something - he must have seen him take them; they stood close together, leaning over the rail. I went in, and asked what he had got; he said nothing, but I took them out of his pocket.(Property produced and sworn to.)

CRAWLEY'S Defence. I had been at my master's, and he gave me 6d. I went into this shop for a knife.


Transported for Seven Years .


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-32

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1620. MARY M'LEOD was indicted for stealing, on the 23d of August , 6 tea spoons, value 25s.; 1 watch, value 25l.; 2 sheets, value 2s. 6d.; 1 tea-caddy, value 15s.; 1 pocket, value 3d.; 1 apron, value 1s.; 1 crown piece; 3 half-crowns; 4 shilling's and 2 sixpences , the property of Henry Steer .

HENRY STEER , I live in Fenchurch-street , on the third floor of Messrs. Taylor and Co.'s house. I am their servant - this property was in a tea-caddy in my room - the prisoner is a stranger.

KESIAH STEER . I am the prosecutor's wife. On the 23d of August I was in an adjoining room, and heard footsteps. I immediately went to the bed-room door, and saw the prisoner down three stairs - she was a stranger; I laid hold of her, and took the tea-caddy from her. I had seen it safe ten minutes before - the watch, tea-spoons, and money, were in it - the sheets, pocket, and apron, were on her arm, under her shawl; the street door is generally open.(Property produced and sworn to.)

Prisoner's Defence. I met a friend, who gave me a glass too much to drink. I went up to this gentleman to get a ticket for the Scotish hospital.

GUILTY . Aged 42.

Confined Twelve Months .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-33

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1621. CHARLES TAYLOR was indicted for stealing, on the 3d of September , 1 handkerchief, value 9d., the goods of William Wall , from his person .

WILLIAM WALL . I live in Wilson-street, St. John-street-road, and am one of the City night patrol . On the 3d of September, about twelve o'clock, I was at Bartholomew fair - just as the fair was being proclaimed, I felt a pressure at my pocket, and, on putting my hand down, missed my handkerchief, which was safe just before. I immediately turned round - the prisoner was exactly behind me - other persons were near me, but not so near my pocket as him. I laid hold of him, and found my handkerchief on the ground, within about two feet of him - he said he had done nothing. I picked it up, and am positive it is mine.

THOMAS FARR . I was at the fair, and saw the prisoner and Wall; there was a great pressure just after the fair was proclaimed - the pick-pockets were very active - I drew back a little, and saw the prisoner take the handkerchief out of Wall's pocket. I collared him immediately, and he threw it down.

Prisoner's Defence. I never had my hand in his pocket- he found it by some boy's feet, and said, as I was nearest to him - he would take me,

GUILTY . Aged 15.

Transported for Seven Years .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-34
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1622. CHARLES HENDRICK was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of July , at St. Bridget alias St. Bride , in the dwelling house of James Bright , 3 sovereigns, and three 5l. Bank notes , the property of Francis Owen .

FRANCIS OWEN . I lodge at Mr. James Bright 's house, No. 53, Dorset-street, Fleet-street - I believe his house is in the parish of St. Bride's - he is a joiner. I am a clerk out of employ , and only occupy the garret, which is my bed-room; the prisoner lived on the same floor, but not in the same room. I had three 5l. notes and three sovereigns locked up in my portmantean, which was in my room. I saw it safe on Monday evening, the 16th of July, at six

o'clock. I put the money in then, and locked the portmantean I am certain; my room door was not locked. I went out of the house about eight o'clock that evening, and returned about ten, but did not go to my portmanteau. Next day, about a quarter-past seven in the evening, I went to my portmanteau, and found it locked as I had left it - my clothes were not taken, but the money was gone - a false key must have been used. I missed the money and notes - the sovereigns were wrapped up in the notes. I had no acquaintance with the prisoner, and never told him the money was there. I did not know the numbers of the notes, nor had I any writing on them; since the prisoner has been taken I have seen three notes in the hands of the Bank clerk, which I have been told are the same; I had received them from Messrs. Jones, Lloyd and Co. I had an order on them for 22l. odd - Mr. Gallatly paid me the money. I am certain I had these notes from them.

Prisoner. Q. Are you certain you did not make any payment from the time you received the notes till you went to the Bank of England? A. I made payments, but did not pay away any of the notes I am certain. I had seven sovereigns and 8s. 1d.

GEORGE GALLATLY . I am clerk to Messrs. Jones, Lloyd, and Co. I recollect the prosecutor applying on the 16th of July for payment of 22l. 8s. 1d. I remember the circumstance well. (referring to a book) I paid him three 5l. notes, Nos. 10,542, dated 1st of June, 1827, 9810, 20th of June, 1827, and 13,101, 21st of June, 1827, and the rest in gold.

ALEXANDRR JAMES GEDDES . I am a clerk in the Bank of England. I produce three 5l. notes, Nos. 105,42, dated 1st of June, 1827; 9810, 20th of June, and 13101, 21st of June, - they all came into the Bank on the 17th of July, they were presented to me at the Bank for payment by the prisoner. I paid him fifteen sovereigns for them - payment had not then been stopped. I have not the slightest doubt of his being the man.

Prisoner. Q. How many persons call on you in the course of the day to receive gold for notes? A. I dare say full fifty. I should not know every person. I frequently notice one more than another - I should know many. I am not mistaken in his case for several reasons, the notes were presented to me, I told him he must get them exchanged, and referred him to the office, and saw him several times. I told him to put his name on them, and he put it on all three. I told him it was not necessary to put it on more than one - he wrote " Charles Moore , 22, Dorset-street" on them, and as I knew one Charles Moore, I noticed him. I described him to the prosecutor very accurately - he came to me two or three times which impresses his features on my mind - I have not the slightest doubt of him. I went with Owen to his lodgings (it was not 22, Dorset-street;) when I saw him I immediately said he was the man - it was the following morning after I had given him change.

JOHN COWTAN . I am a constable. I was sent for, and took charge of him - Mr. Geddes was by, and pointed him out as the person. The house is in the parish of St. Brides.

MR. GEDDES. I produce the notes. The entry of the payment in the book is my writing.

FRANCIS OWEN . I have no mark on the notes. I only know the prisoner by meeting him in the kitchen. I believe he is a watch-case maker.

Prisoner's Defence. The landlady can swear she has often seen strangers in the house, and there are half a dozen lodgers.

- BRIGHT. I am the wife of James Bright. The prisoner came to live with us the latter end of April or beginning of May - Owen has not been there quite so long - there were other lodgers on the 16th and 17th of July; they all still remain there - it is a lodging-house. - The prisoner appeared a steady young man.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 21.

Recommended to Mercy by the Prosecutor, on account of his youth, and understanding his connexions are respectable .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-35
VerdictGuilty; Guilty

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1623. PARAGON LLOYD and MARGARET WILLIAMS were indicted for stealing, on the 1st of September , 1 sovereign, 4 shillings, and 1 sixpence, the monies of James Jennings , from his person .

JAMES JENNINGS . I am a master mariner , and live in Church-street, Borough. On the 1st of September, at half-past twelve o'clock in the night, I was at the bottom of St. Mary-at-hill, Thames-street - I was sober. I never saw the prisoners before in my life, till this happened - I first saw them about two hundred yards from St. Mary-at-hill, in Thames-street; they spoke first to me: they did not ask me to go with them; one took hold of each arm: I immediately told them to quit me and go away - they kept by me, and I repeatedly desired them to leave me, all the way. Lloyd put her hand into my right hand waistcoat pocket, where I had a sovereign and 4s. 6d. in silver - I immediately took hold of her hand; she drew her hand out, and my money was gone. The other one immediately ran up St. Mary-at-hill. I immediately gave Lloyd in charge of the watchman: no money was found on her. Williams came down to the watch-house in about five minutes, to inquire for Lloyd - I immediately gave her in charge also - no money was found on her. I felt Lloyd's hand in my pocket, and am certain at that time that the money was there then; I had not put it there above two hours - I had my hand in my pocket while they were in my company, and felt it just before she took it.

THOMAS WEBB . I am an officer of Billingsgate Ward. I received charge of Lloyd, who was brought to the watch-house by a watchman, charged by Jennings with robbing him of a sovereign and 4s. 6d. - I searched, but found nothing on her - she denied it; they were both in the watch-house when I got there. Williams was charged with running away, and he suspected she had run away with the money - she was searched, but nothing was found on either of them.

The prisoners handed in a joint written defence, stating that they saw the prosecutor speaking to two women in Thames-street; that he crossed over the way, and laid hold of Lloyd, whom he wanted to force up a passage, but she not consenting he said he threatened to give her in charge - that he was much in liquor, and said he had been robbed, and she should pay for it.

THOMAS WEBB . I saw Jennings - he knew what he was about; he spoke rather fast, but I thought that was through the irritation of his losing his money.

JAMES JENNINGS . I expressed no inclination whatever to go with them. I swear I had spoken to no women

whatever. My hand was not in my pocket at the time she put hers in; I caught hold of her hand, and never let it go. Williams was near enough to receive it - she was close to her.

LLOYD - GUILTY . Aged 23.


Transported for Seven Years .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-36

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First Middlesex Jury - before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

1624. RICHARD BARNETT was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of August , at St. John the Evangelist, Westminster , 1 clock, value 10l., and 2 silver spoons, value 2s., the goods of George Greig , in his dwelling-house .

THE REV. GEORGE GREIG . I am a clergyman , and live in Vincent-square , Westminster. On the 16th of August, at five o'clock in the morning, I got up, being unwell - I came down, opened the parlour window, and sat there till six o'clock; I then rang my servant up, and returned to my bed-room; in a quarter of an hour I heard her give a scream below - I was alarmed, and made inquiry; I found a clock was gone, which had cost me twelve guineas - I had had it twelve or thirteen years; it was worth ten guineas - also two tea-spoons, worth 2s. I could learn nothing except from a witness.

ELIZABETH SMITH . I am servant to Mr. Greig. I came down at half-past six o'clock in the morning, and went into the kitchen - I opened the shutter, and saw two men fall from the parlour window - they did not see me; I cannot say who they were - they were much the same size as the prisoner. I could not perceive that they had any bundle. I ran up to the parlour, and gave a scream. I missed the clock from the side-board in the parlour, and two spoons from the dumb-waiter; they were safe when I went to bed. One of the men appeared to me to have fustian clothes on.

THOMAS STRINGER . I am a smith. On Thursday morning, the 16th of August, I was passing Mr. Greig's house, and observed the prisoner and another lurking about opposite - I passed on to the end of the square, stopped there a few minutes, and presently saw the prisoner run up the prosecutor's garden, and receive a parcel from a man at the window; the man jumped from the window; there was another outside, and they all three ran off together. I have no doubt of the prisoner's person, having seen him before.

WELCOME COLE . I live within fifty yards of Mr. Greig. I was going out on the 16th of August, and saw the prisoner pass me - he was running, and I noticed him pull his jacket off; I stopped, and looked at him particularly; at that moment another came up, with a clock under his arm, covered with a white cloth or something. The prisoner pulled his jacket off, and threw it over the clock, so that nobody could see it. I followed them down New Peter-street - they went through a court, into Duck-lane. I returned, and met Mr. Greig's son running after them; I told him what I had seen. I saw the prisoner in custody three or four days afterwards, and was positive he was the one who covered his jacket ever the clock, not the one who carried it.

ROBERT CROSS . On Thursday morning, the 16th of August, I saw the prisoner in Horseferry-road, about one hundred yards from Mr. Greig's house, with another man - the prisoner was then carrying a bundle, with a coat over it; he had his coat off.

JOSEPH COOPER . I am an officer. I apprehended the prisoner on Wednesday, the 22d of August; I told him it was for a clock. I asked him when he was in Vincent-square last; he said he had never been in Vincent-square all the summer. Quin, the other man, is now in custody in the House of Correction, under a sentence of three months' imprisonment.

Prisoner's Defence. When Cooper apprehended me he asked how long ago I had been in Vincent-square; I said I had not been there all the summer: he asked where my jacket was, and I said I had none at that time.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 18.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-37
VerdictGuilty; Guilty > with recommendation
SentenceDeath; Death

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1625. HENRY HALL and THOMAS FERRY were indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Elias Heath Chadwin , on the 12th of August , at St. Dunstan, Stebonheath alias Stepney and stealing 7 shifts, value 1l.; 10 shirts, value 2l.; 7 petticoats, value 7s.; 1 napkin, value 6d.; 4 waistcoats, value 20s.; 1 wine-glass, value 18d.; 2 aprons, value 2s.; 16 gowns, value 3l.; 2 pairs of trousers, value 8s.; 5 pillow-cases, value 5s.; 4 frocks, value 12s.; 10 pinafores, value 13s.; 5 sheets, value 1l.; 2 table-cloths, value 8s., and 1 coat, value 1s. , his property.

ELIAS HEATH CHADWIN . I live at No. 1, Louisa-street, Mile-end-road , in the parish of St. Dunstan, Stepney; it is my dwelling-house. On Sunday morning, the 12th of August, I went out about eleven o'clock, leaving nobody in the house - I double locked the street door, and put the key in my pocket; part of this property was then in a back room, and some in a chest of drawers up stairs - I am positive all my doors and windows were fastened - I returned about eleven o'clock at night, and missed all this property; the front door, and two inner doors had been opened by skeleton or false keys - I found the street door on the latch; the property was immediately produced; it is worth more than 11l., at a reasonable valuation - I do not know the prisoner.

HENRY MEARS . I am a ship insurance agent. On Sunday, the 12th of August, about a quarter after four o'clock in the afternoon, both the prisoners passed me in Beaumont-square, about thirty or forty yards from the prosecutor's house - Ferry was carrying a bundle, which he threw away - I had not spoken to them; they were both in company, but Ferry came along first, and Hall a few yards after him; they came in a direction from the prosecutor's house - I did not see them come out of the house - I heard a cry of Stop thief! and then the bundle was thrown away; they both ran away - I pursued down a very narrow lane - Ferry was first, and was stopped by another man, in my sight; Hall was running after him; I was close in pursuit: and as Hall ran, he threw away three different parcels over a wall - I did not stop to get them up, but, having a rule in my pocket, I immediately scratched a mark on the wall, to know the place, and still pursued; another person came by me, and stopped him - I immediately collared him, and the other man let Ferry go immediately - I took Hall back to the garden, where he threw the things over, and they

were handed over to me - I am certain of both the prisoners - I searched Hall myself, as nobody was in the watch-house, and found on him a chissel, a brad-awl, a waistcoat, a glass, and phosphorus-box, a shirt in his hat, and a baby's cap, or something - I am sure Ferry is the man who threw away the large bundle.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you know Ferry before? A. No - I did not see him come out of the house; he did not run very fast at first - I have not seen the man here who took Ferry; he was retaken a long time afterwards.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Have you made inquiry about Hall since this occurred? A. I have no doubt he has been led into it - I have reason to believe his parents are highly repectable, and he has been the dupe of some other person.

MARY RUCK . I live at No. 2, Louisa-street. On the Sunday afternoon in question, I was at my bed-room window, and saw a man go along with a white bundle - I thought it looked suspicious, and I saw Hall come out of the prosecutor's house with a bundle - I ran down stairs, and called Stop thief! after him - he dropped the bundle; I picked it up, and gave it to the officer.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Had you seen him before? A. I never saw either of them before - I have since heard that Hall is respectable.

THOMAS STIMSON . I am head borough of Stepney, and have all the property; it consists of the articles stated in the indictment. On the 12th of August, about five o'clock in the afternoon, I was in Mile-end-road; somebody came running from the watch-house - I went and found Hall in the watch-house - I locked him up, and received the property; here are three skeleton keys, and a phosphorus-box, which were taken from his person - Ferry was afterwards taken.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did you know Hall before? A. Never.

MRS. CHADWICK. All this property is ours, and is worth full 11l. - I believe Hall belongs to respectable parents.

HALL'S Defence. I did not throw three things away.

Three witnesses deposed to Ferry's good character, and one to Hall's.

MR. CLARKSON to HENRY MEARS . Q. Do you know of Hall having made a communication on this subject? A. The moment he went with me to the watch-house, he told me every thing about it.

HALL - GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 18.


Hall recommended to Mercy by the Prosecetor, believing him to bear a good character, and to have been in distress, and that he was the victim of some other person .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-38
VerdictGuilty; Guilty
SentenceDeath; Death

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1626. MARGARET CAVENAGH and ANN LYNCH were indicted for that they, on the 7th of July , at St. Luke , two pieces of base coin, each resembling a shilling, falsely, deceitfully, feloniously, and traitorously, did colour with materials producing the colour of silver, against the duty of their allegiance, and against the statute , &c.

MESSRS. BOLLAND and LAW conducted the prosecution.

JOHN LIMBRICK . I am an officer of Hatton-garden. On Saturday, the 7th of July, in consequence of information, I went to the French Horn public-house, in Barbican, with Lloyd, Ferguson, and Mr. Powell, the assistant solicitor of the Mint - one Vint was there also; we first got into Kelly's company at this public-house - I searched him there, and found he had nothing about him - I then gave him two good shillings, which I marked, in the presence of himself and the officer: Kelly then left us, and went in a direction for Chequer-alley, by our direction - Kirby went with him. I saw Kelly again in half an hour or more, at the same public-house; he gave me two had shillings, which I produce - he showed me one of the good shillings which I had given him - he informed me what he had done and seen; between four and five o'clock that day I sent him on another errand: he returned to us in about half an hour, and produced three bad shillings, and a piece of colouring stuff in a paper - it was in powder, not in a lump - I produce that and the bad shillings. In consequence of what he stated I went, with Lloyd, Kirby, and vint, to No. 2, Chequer-alley, Whitecross-street; we found the street door open, and went up to the first floor front room - the door was on the latch; I opened it and saw Lynch near the door, partly undressed; the other prisoner was near the window; she had her gown sleeves tucked up, and I think she had not all her clothes on - I think this was between five and six in the afternoon; I took Cavenagh into custody, and Kirby took Lynch - we handcuffed them together, and then searched the room - there was a bed in the room, and under the bolster I found this canvass bag, containing a good half-crown, and a good shilling which was marked, and was the one I had given Kelly; in a piece of brown paper, near the bag, were-seven bright counterfeit shillings: while I was searching the bed, I heard a scuffle between the prisoners and Kirby - I turned round, and received from Kirby this bag, containing the colouring powder, which I afterwards tried on a halfpenny - it gave it the appearance of silver; there was a cupboard in the room - I examined it, and found two bad shillings wrapped up in a piece of rag, in an old mug - they had been rubbed down, and recoloured, fit for circuiation - they appeared to have been rubbed down by sand paper, then recoloured, and blacked over. I found nothing on either of the prisoners; they were taken to the office and searched by Mrs. Lee, the jailor's wife, who gave me, in Cavenagh's presence, a shilling and two or three halfpence, which she stated she had taken from her person; the shitling was marked, and was one of those I had given to Kelly - I had then got back both the shillings which I had given him.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Have you stated all that you saw these women do on your going into the room? A. Yes; one was more undressed then the other - I think they had been washing - I did not find them doing anything; I sent Kelly there by direction of Mr. Powell.

WILLIAM KIRBY . I am an officer of Hatton-garden. I was with Limbrick; I saw Kelly at the French Horn, public-house - Limbrick marked 2s. and gave him; I followed him from there to No. 2. Chequer-alley; he went up stairs, but there was nobody at home - he came down again - he and I went to another public-house. and in half an hour, I watched him up stairs at No. 2, agains; he remained there not five minutes, and came down again - this might be half-past twelve o'clock; he gave Limbrick two connterfeit shillings - he was then searched, and only one of the

good shillings found on him; he went again in the afternoon, but I did not follow him then - between five and six o'clock, I Limbrick, Lloyd, and Vint, went to the house, the door was open; we went to the first floor front room - the door was on the latch; we went in - I first saw Lynch; she came towards the door as we opened it - she was nearly naked, I believe she had her gown on - Cavenagh was standing close to the window, with her sleeves tucked up as if she had been washing - they were both taken into custody and handcuffed; I had hold of each of their hands; Lloyd left us, and went into another room - while Limbrick was searching the room I saw Cavenagh take something off the bed, it was a little parcel, tied up in a piece of bedtick - I took it from her; we had a scuffle, and Limbrick took it from me - I afterwards saw that it contained a grey powder; I found a paper of cream of tartar on the mantleshelf.

Cross-examined. Q. Might not any one, who chose, have walked into the room without any apparent resistance? A. I only had to lift the latch up - the street-door was wide open.

ANDREW LLOYD . I was with Kirby and Limbrick, at the French Horn, public-house, and afterwards accompanied them to the prisoners' room.

MATTHEW KELLY . I have known both the prisoners for three-quarters of a year - they have lived together during that time, at No. 2, Chequer-alley. On the 7th of July I saw Limbrick, and received from him two good marked shillings; I went with them to Chequer-alley - Kirby followed me into the alley; I went to the first floor room, and saw nobody the first time - I came back, and went into a public-house; remained there about five minutes, and saw both the prisoners go along - I immediately went out and saw them both go into the alley - I went up stairs, and found them both in the room; it was between eleven and twelve o'clock - Cavenagh asked me what I wanted, I told her I wanted two bad shillings; she said I should have them - she went to an old quilt that hung before the bed - Lynch was present; and Cavenagh asked her where they were - Lynch said, "They are there;" Cavenagh produced two bad shillings to me, and I gave her one of the good shillings which I had received from Limbrick - I asked her for a small bit of colouring stuff, she said she had none - but I should have plenty in the evening; Lynch said,"What is that?" Cavenagh said "A small bit of colouring stuff, the boy wants." Lynch said she had none, but I should have it in the evening - I asked at what time I should come in the evening; Cavenagh said "Come between four and five o'clock." I then went to the French Horn, public-house, in Barbican - saw Limbrick there, and delivered him the two bad shillings, in the same state as I got them. I told him what I had seen; I went again between four and five o'clock; found them at home - one was standing near the window, andthe other near the bed; there was a cupboard in the room - I asked Cavenagh for three bad shillings, meaning counterfeit shillings; I used the word bad - she said I should have them; she sat down; and drew a paper out of her bosom, containing about a dozen had shillings, in a bright state - Lynch was washing down the cupboard; Cavenagh sat down, and got some sand paper and was rubbing the bad shillings down; Lynch grambled at not being tall enough to wash down the cupboard. Cavenagh said "Come here, and get these ready for the boy, and I will wash it down;" Lynch came, and sat down, and rubbed down the three bad shillings with the sand paper, to make them not look so new, and fit for passing. Lynch put them on the bar of the stove, and after heating them by the fire, threw them into a basin of water, which Cavenagh gave her; she then took them out of the basin, brought a piece of bed-tick from under the bolster, with colouring stuff in it; she rubbed the bad money with the colouring stuff, and then threw them into another basin of water, took them out, and rubbed some cream of tarter on them; she lighted a candle and somaked them over it, and then rubbed a little tallow on them, to make them a little darker than they were; she folded them up in a piece of printed paper, and gave them to me - she gave me a small piece of colouring stuff. I gave Lynch the other marked shilling, which I had from Limbrick; I took the counterfeit shillings and the colouring stuff to the French Horn, gave them to Limbrick, and they went to apprehend the prisoners.

Cross-examined. Q. Are these country-women of yours? A. I do not know that they come from the same county - I have known them three quarters of a year.

Q. How long have you known this process of colouring? A. The very first time was the commencement of that three quarters of a year - I get my living by labouring, any work that I can get.

Q. How did you happen to get acquainted with Limbrick? A. I had given information to Mr. Powell of the Mint; I never passed any bad coin in my life - this is the first time I ever asked the prisoners to sell me any; I have been promised nothing for doing this, but I hope to be paid for my time and trouble - I hope to be justified by the Court, to be paid for my time and trouble.

Q. Is all your expectation the usual expenses which the Court allow; what do you mean by being justified? A. I hope to be paid for my time and trouble in seeing the King and Government justified, seeing that they are not robbed.

Q. How long have you been working for Mr. Powell? A. The three quarters of a year was the first commencement of it - I work for him but very seldom; I never had any jobs for him but this; I got some money from him to purchase of them. My sister introduced me to Mr. Powell; she was in the habit of going out with bad money; Mr. Powell never promised me any thing.

Q. Do not you expect to be better paid if you convict these women? A. No; I do not know any thing at all about it.

Q. Do not you expect to be better paid provided you can convict them, than if they get acquitted? A. I dare say I will. I do not know whether either of them are married - I never had any quarrel with them; that I swear.

Q. During any part of the three quarters of a year, have either of them accused you of stealing a duplicate off her mantle shelf, and getting a shawl out of pawn? A. No, never; nor a gown, nor any thing - I never heard either of them say a word about it - I do not know a woman named Taylor nor Kennedy.

Q. Then no relation of yours named Kennedy lived in the room with these women? A. No; I swear that - I shall be satisfied with any expenses I get from Mr. Powell - I do not know how much to expect.

Q. Do you believe it depends on the success of your

evidence, whether you get any thing? A. Yes, I do; but I expect I shall get something for my time and trouble.

Q. Now, did you ever say to a woman named Taylor, that because Lynch charged you about the duplicate of the shawl, and said she would do for you, that you were determined to do for her? A. No; that I swear, nor any thing of the kind - I never heard a word of it; nor ever said a word of it.

MR. LAW. Q. Do you expect to be paid for your trouble, whether they are convicted or not? A. Yes.

ANN LEA . I am the wife of William Lea , and officer, who lives at Hatton-garden office - I was called to search the prisoner's at the office - I first searched Cavenagh, and found a good shilling, a sixpence, and 2d. in halfpence on her - Limbrick took the shilling; the rest was returned her - I found nothing on Lynch.

GEORGE NAYLOR . I know the prisoners; they occupied the first floor of No. 1, Chequer-alley - Lynch paid the rent - they both lived there; there was no other lodger in that room.

Cross-examined. Q. It is the first floor of No. 1? A. Yes; it is the first house in the alley, and the number is I, the room the officer took them in is the room they occopy - I never heard whether either of them were married - I collect the rents, but am not the landlord - I do not know a woman named Kennedy - I have seen different females in their a partment.

JOHN LIMBRICK re-examined. The house may be No. I; it is the first house.

JOHN FIELD . I am an inspector of coin at the Mint;(looking at the paper of bright shillings) these are all counterfeit, and bright in the same state they first came from the die - there are seven of them; the sharpness which is now on them is removed by friction of glass or sand-paper it removes the silvering from the surface, and takes off the sharpness of the die - it is then necessary to re-silver them, which is done by a mixture of nitrate of silver and salt, being rubbed on in a moist state - here is some of that mixture among the articles produced [here the witness after moistening the powder produced, with pure water, rubbed it on a piece of copper, which he then rubbed with cream of tartar, and it produced the appearance of silver] after it is coloured in this manner, a portion of grease and blacking is generally put on it to give it a dull appearance as if it had been in circulation. I state this from a great number of years experience (looking at the two counterfeit shillings produced by Limbrick as received from Kelly) these are counterfeit, and appear to have undergone the process I have described. rubbing down, re-colouring, greasing, and blacking; they are in the state in which they are usually put into circulation - (looking at the three other counterfeit shillings produced by Limbrick) these are counterfeit, and in the same state - they have been rubbed down, re-coloured, greased, and blackened; the small quantity of powder produced by Kelly is of the same nature with that found in the room.

MR. RICHARD FRANKLYN . I am one of the moneyers of the Mint - (looking at the two shillings) these are counterfeit; all the shillings produced are counterfeit.

CAVENAGH's Defence (written.) My Lord and Gentlemen of the Jury - I can assure you most solemnly, that I know nothing of the crime. I was this day sent for by my daughter-in-law, as she was lame, to assist her in cleaning her room; a woman named Kennedy was there, and the witness Kelly came to see her, and paid a shilling for her rent, as she was about to leave my daughter-in-law's room, having notice to quite. Kelly also sent me for some gin, and gave me a shilling to get it with. I am a hard-working woman, and sell fruit; and having a quantity of copper in my pocket, I paid for the gin with that and kept the shilling - this shilling was found upon me when at the office. I saw Kelly (the witness) go to the mug on the dresser, where the two bad shillings were afterwards found - Mrs. Kennedy also laid in the bed where the other things were found. kelly had a quarrel with my daughter-in-law some time before, about a shawl, the ticket of which he stule off from her mantle-piece, and Mr. Fryett, a pawnbroker of Whitecross-street, described a man of his description as having redeemed the same; when threatened about it, he swore that he would do for my daughter-in-law (that is, he would do her some harm.) I hope my Lord, you will not receive his evidence against us on this account, as I firmly assure you of my innocence, and pray that our unfortunate case may meet your merciful consideration. My Lord and Gentlemen of the Jury, I most solemnly and earnestly, assuring you of my innocence, pray that my case may meet your serious consideration. I have always borne an honest character, and beg to state that the witness Kelly has had a sister tried twice before for this very crime, and a sister of his Joan Kelly, was tried here only during the last Sessions, as he well knows. Myself, I am sure, and my daughter also, are far from being able to attend to, or deal in such practices; there were no appearance seen on either of us to make out that we had been doing what the witness Kelly states; this plau has been laid by himself, or the woman whom he came to my daughter's house to see, and for whom he paid the rent with one shilling, and gave the other for gin, which I kept in my pocket, which I should not have done, as I could have thrown it away on going to the office, had I sold coin for the same.

LYNCH'S Defence. I know nothing about it; the man brought the woman to lodge with us. I accused him of stealing the ticket of my shawl; all his family are passers of bad coin - he came into my room and treated me.

MARGARET TAYLOR . I have known the witness Kelly eight or nine months - I have seen him several times.

Q. Did he ever say to you, that as the prisoner Lynch said she would do for him, he would do for her? A. Yes; he said as she had accused him of taking her shawl I out of pawn, he would do for her; I met him in Holborn at the time - I asked what he could do with her; he said he knew that himself.

Q. Have you known Kelly well? A. No; I used to carry fruit for Lynch, who is lame.

MR. BOLLAND. Q. Are you married or single? A. Married; my husband formerly lived in Gray's lun-lane; he is a painter - I sell fruit when I can, and at times go out charing.

Q. Do you go by any other name but Taylor? A. Brander was my name before I was married - I have been married about six months - I met Kelly in Holborn about three months ago; I had a basket of cherries at the time - I spoke to him first - I said, "Kelly, are you not ashamed

to go to that poor lame woman, and take the ticket of her shawl, though you used to go to the woman that lived with her - you should not take her shawl." I said I heard her say she would have him up for it, and do for him, or send him to Newgate: his answer was, he would do for her before. I said, "Lynch is fully intending to settle you in Newgate for it:" he said he would have her there, and do for her before she could do for him; the prisoners were not in custody at that time - I went by the name of Taylor then.

Q. Were you ever yourself under a charge of passing bad money? A. No; there never was any charge of the kind made against me at Hatton-garden - I was there once for a row; I was never at any office for passing bad money.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. What woman used he to go and see at their room? A. Some woman who lived there - I have seen him there on two Saturday mornings.

vM. KELLY re-examined. I never saw that woman in my life while I have been in London, or any where - I swear I never saw her before - she is only perjuring herself.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you go to see any woman at their lodgings, or did you see any third woman there? A. No; I never saw any woman there but those who went to purchase bad money. I do not know Kennedy at all - I never met this woman in Holborn, or any where in my life. I do not know a pawnbroker named Fryett - I never heard the name before.

M. TAVLOR re-examined. That was the man I saw and spoke to in Holborn.

M. KELLY. I never saw that woman in my life before.



13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-39

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Before Mr. Baron Vaughan.

1627. EDWARD LOWE was indicted for that he, on the 7th of September , at St. Giles in the Fields , two pieces of base coin, each of them resembling a shilling, falsely, deceitfully, feloniously, and traitorously, did colour with materials producing the colour of silver, against the duty of his allegiance, and against the statute , &c.

JOHN LIMBRICK . I am an officer of Hatton-garden. On Friday, the 7th of September, in consequence of information, I went to No. 12, Buckeridge-street, St. Giles' - it is a lodging-house - I found the street door open; Edwards, Lee, and Kirby were with me; we tried the first door on the right hand side, in the passage, found it fast, and burst it open; directly on entering the room, I saw the prisoner standing fronting the window; he threw something into a pail of soapsuds - I could not see what it was, but I took out of the pail some colouring powder in brown paper, which I produce - I tried it on copper, and it gave it the appearance of silver: we secured the prisoner, and I took from a cup two bed shillings, in water - they had been rubbed down, recoloured, and were fit for circulation.

Q. How long after the prisoner threw the powder into the tub did you get it out? A. I went to it immediately, but the water had made it into a sort of paste; I took the two shillings out of the cup, and put them up in paper, wet as they were, which has made some specks on them that were not there then; the cup stood on a dresser; I saw Mrs. Lowe standing very near the bed, and under the bed I found some more colouring, which is here; I searched a shelf over the door, and found a piece of glass paper, which had not been used - it is used to file down the edges of the coin; I found some sheets of whitey-brown paper on the shelf that is used to tie the shillings up in; I found nothing else that day - I think I saw a cup on the dresser: we seut them to the office with Bailey, who was in the room, but was afterwards discharged: I locked the door up with a padlock, which the landlord got, took the key with me, and returned to the room the following day with Edwards and Kirby; I saw Edwards move this cup, which is the one I had seen on the dresser the day before; he took the top of it off, and took from it four bright shillings - it was a child's Tunbridge ware cup.

Prisoner. Q. Was it Thursday or Friday? A. Friday, the 7th of September.

WILLIAM BROWN EDWARDS . I am a Police-officer, and accompanied Limbrick and Kirby to the prisoner's room, on Friday, the 7th of September; the street door was open - the room door was fast: we forced it, and found the prisoner standing by the window, and two others in the room - I saw something drop from the prisoner's right hand, into a tub of dirty water. I saw Limbrick take from that tub a powder, which he tried on a halfpenny, and it gave it the colour of silver; there was a show-board in the room, and on that I found a quantity of sand paper, which appeared to have been used in rubbing down coin - there appeared a portion of coin on the paper. They were taken to the office. I went there again on the Saturday afternoon, between four and five o'clock, with Limbrick, Kirby, and Powell. I saw a Tunbridge-ware toy, which appeared to be part of the top of a cup, and under it I found four shillings, bright as they came from the die; they were wrapped up in paper; I did not observe where that stood the day before. The lower part of the window is wood instead of glass, which prevents persons seeing from the street, unless they are very tall.

WILLIAM KIRBY . I am an officer, and went with Limbrick - his account is correct. I found three pieces of sand paper on the top of the shelf; they have been used very much. I returned to the room with the officers on the Saturday.

WILLIAM LEE . I accompanied the other officers on Friday, and found some cream of tartar in a paper, in a cup on the mantle-piece. I did not ask the prisoner what it was - he must have seen me find it.

DAVID MCLARENE . I live at No. 13, Buckeridge-street, St. Giles', next door to the prisoner - I am not in any business. I have known the prisoner two or three years - I am landlord of the room which he was taken in - I let that room to him on the 23d of June - he continued to occupy it, and paid the rent himself, sometimes weekly and sometimes part of it; nobody lived there with him but his wife and their child, who is about twelve months old. I never knew how he got his living.

JOHN FIELD . I am an inspector of coin at the Mint. I have seen the articles produced. [The witness here wetted with pure water the powder found by Limbrick in the tub, and upon rubbing it on copper it produced the colour of silver] - this is the powder usually used on base coin - it is nitrate of silver and salt. This cream of tartar is used in the process of colouring; the four shillings produced are counterfeit, and in the new state as they

came from the die - the two shillings produced appear to have been rubbed down and resilvered - they are now in a bad state, by being apparently left in acid.

JOHN LIMBRICK . These are the two shillings which I put up wet from the water in the cup - they were then quite bright, and fit for circulation.

MR. FIELD. They are from the same die as the foar others; the rubbing down is to give the money more the appearance of having been in circulation - it takes off the sarface, as the coin now in circulation is worn.

WILLIAM KIRBY . I saw the two shillings when Limhrick first found them; they were then quite bright, had been rubbed down, and were fit for circulation.

COURT. Q. Do you mean they were as bright as the bright money? A. No; not near so bright as the four shillings; they had been rubbed down, and were quite clean.

MR. RICHARD FRANKLYN . I am a moneyer of the Mint. (Looking at the two shillings) these are counterfeit, and are not silver.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 40.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-40
VerdictNot Guilty

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1628. JOHN BUSHELL was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of August , I diamond pin, value 5l.; 1 diamond brooch, value 15l.; 2 diamond rings, value 20l., and 3 seals, value 3l., the goods of John Mainwaring , in his dwelling-house .

CHARLES BROWN . I am clerk to John Mainwaring , a jeweller , of Chichester-rents, Chancery-lane. On the 15th of August the pirosoner came to the shop, with another person, who seemed to be a foreigner, (as the prisoner interpreted for him.) The prisoner asked to look at some gold seals, which I showed him - he then asked to look at a diamond ring - I showed him some; he then produced a letter from his pocket, and read from it an order, which he said was from South America, and would be for three dozens of gold seals, three dozens of gold fancy rings, one diamond ring, and six pairs of brilliant ear-rings; he said Mr. Mainwaring's name was given to him by a Mr. Askill, of America, and said, "I do not know whether I have the pleasure of addressing Mr. Mainwaring or not;" I said, my name was Brown; he said it was of no consequence, as we might rely upon having the order, and named the following Monday morning, at nine o'clock, to see a better assortment than I had then before me - he appointed that time himself; I showed them the whole of our diamond stock, which they seemed paricularly to admire. They asked the price of various articles, and then went away; I immediately put the things they had looked at into the drawer and case from whence I had taken them, and as they did not keep their appointment on the following Monday morning, nor indeed ever came again, we had some suspicion; Mr. Mainwaring and my self took stock, and missed the articles stated in the indictment - I had shown them the pin and rings, and I am certain I had seen the other things two days before they came. I have seen the diamond pin at Marlborough-street - it is worth above 5l. The property altogether is worth 43l., at a very reduced calculation.

Cross-examined by MR. MCDOWELL. Q. How many persons had been in your shop from the time you had seen the other things? A. Probably thirty or forty - I had no conversation with the other man; they talked in a foreign language, but I doubt his being a foreigner, for he looked at a very fine sapphire brooch, and I heard the word No, from one to the other - I will not swear it was No - it seemed to be a signification of No - I do not know whether the negative term in the French language sounds like No - I did not observe any conversation between them till after they had been into the warehouse - I looked at the things - the prisoner produced the letter from his pocket; I swear he did not say he wanted the articles for the gentleman who was with him - that man did not look at more than one or two articles - I showed them some pearl suits; the prisoner immediately said, "I do not deal in that, but my friend deals largely in it" - I did not mention this circumstance at Marlborough-street, as they thought I had stated enough; that was my only reason for not stating it - I did not see to whom the letter was addressed.

JAMES HOWELL . I am shopman to Mr. Barton, a pawnbroker, of Princes-street, Soho - the prisoner came to our shop on the 15th of August, about four o'clock, and pawned a diamond pin for 3l. - he said the stone weighed three grains - he pawned it in the name of John Johnson - I have it here; it is worth 5l. 5s. in the trade, and would sell for a good deal more - I sent notice to the Magistrate at Marlborough-street, in consequence of a hand-bill.

CHARLES BROWN . This is the pin - I know it to be the same.

Cross-examined. Q. How do you know it? A. By the peculiarity of the setting, and the tint of the colour - it is set with the stem angleways, which is unusual-there are two grains, and then one, which is unusual; it happened to be the very largest pin we had, and was on a piece of velvet, with about thirty others - I did not tell the Magistrate, that the person who came with him appeared an excellent judge of the articles, nor say any thing to that effect.

The prisoner, being called upon for his defence, read a long address to the Court, respecting his having simply acted as interpreter to the other person; the particulars of which will be found in his subsequent trial, on the Seventh Day of the Session.

JANE ANN GIRAUDIR . I formerly kept an hotel in the Haymarket, and am now out of business - I live at No. 42, Haymarket; the prisoner was first introduced to me by Mr. Perren, a foreigner, whom I had known eight years ago - I had every reason to believe he was a jeweller - I became acquainted with him by his lodging at my hotel, about eight years ago - my brother was then in his employ, as an interpreter, and accompanied him to several jewellers shops in the neighbourhood - he never pawned any articles for him to my knowledge - he remained ten months at my house; he could not speak a word of English - I had seen him with several diamonds; my brother frequently went with him to jewellers' shops; he went to Paris - I have heard of him several times since - the last time I saw him was the day before the prisoner was arrested - the first time I saw him after the eight years, was when he arrived in England - he called to see me, having lodged with me, and inquired for my brother, who is now abroad - he introduced the prisoner to me as his interpreter - I have seen Perren with several articles of jewellery.

COURT. Q. When did Perren come to England with the prisoner? A. In June or July - he did not lodge with me then. I am not in business. I saw him every day till the prisoner was apprehended - he did not speak a word of English. I can speak French.

CLOUGH GOGIN . I am a teacher of languages, and live at No. 14, Great Pultency-street. I know the prisoner. I have known Perren for the last two months, and think he could not speak a word of English. I have been employed to go with him to lapidarys' shops, and setters of diamonds to interpret - I did that twice - he bought nothing on those occassions, but said he would call again.

JAMES HOWELL re-examined. I saw a Frenchman in company with the prisoner on one occasion; he had some things, and gave them to the prisoner to pawn with me, one at a time; the prisoner asked more on them than I could lend, and he returned them back to the Frenchman. I think this was two or three days subsequent to his pawning the pin; one of the articles was a diamond brooch, and I think there were some rings, but I am not positive; the prisoner was alone when he pawned the brooch in the name of"John Johnson, 17, Oxford-street" - it was a diamond sapphire brooch; he had brought me something to pawn about a week before, with the Frenchman, but I did not take it in.

CHARLES BROWN . Ours was a brilliant border brooch, not a sapphire.

Prisoner. I beg to remark, that it is not usual to give the right name when things are pawned, from the reluctance persons feel to have it known they must have recourse to such means.

WILLIAM WILLIAMS . I am a pawnbroker, and live in St. Martin's-lane; the prisoner has been to our shop more than once, accompained by a Frenchaman; he once brought a diamond and sapphire brooch to pledge - the Frenchman took it from his pocket and gave it to the prisoner, who spoke English, and interpreted to the Frenchman; things were generally given to me by the prisoner, who asked the sum for them - he sometimes communicated with the Frenchman previously.

COURT. Q. When did he come to your house with the brooch? A. About a month ago; he wanted more than I could advance on it - that was the first time that I remember; he came the last time on the 22d of August, and offered a gold watch for 5l. I offered him 3l. - before he would take it, he went and spoke to the Frenchman, who was at the door, then came back and pawned it with me in the name of "John James, 18, Castle-street." I do not remember their coming at any other time.


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-41
VerdictsGuilty; Not Guilty

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1629. GEORGE SANDERSON was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of July , 4 quires of paper, value 5s., and I quire of other paper, value 10d. , the goods of John Green and another, his masters ; and JOHN BEWICK was indicted for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing it to have been stolen .

MR. ADOLPHUS conducted the prosecution.

GEORGE JORDAN . I am clerk to Messrs. Green, tea and coffee dealers , of Gracechurch-street - their business is mostly wholesale - I have been with them nearly two years. I found Sanderson there when I first went, and understood from him that he had been there nearly fifteen years. Soon after I went there, Sanderson told me, that if I was short of cash, I was to sell coffee or tea, and apply the money to my own use, for what I was deficient. I said nothing to that. I told Mr. Henry Green of it about a week afterwards, or it might be more. Soon after, the prosecutors kept a more diligent watch over their property, and in about four months had pedlocks put on all their cannisters.

Q. Before the 24th of July, do you remember some paper coming in? A. Yes; one ream of thin blue and one ream of thin white; we use it to pack tea and coffee for the retail trade only - it would last a long time, as we have very little retail business; it was placed on a back shelf, near the bottom of the counter - Sanderson had access to it. On the 24th I made this memorandum of the paper in hand - there were sixteen quires of blue, fifteen of white, and eight of brown, which we call bag-cap; on the 27th I looked again, there were fourteen of blue, twelve of white, and seven of bag-cap; we had not cut up any of that paper for bags or any thing, nor had we used any of it; what became of the rest I cannot say, but none of it had been used in the business whatever - it could not have been taken for the business without my knowledge, nor could any such quartity have been consumed in business in so few days.

Cross-examined by MR. BARRY. Q. When did you enter the prosecutors' service? A. On the 27th of October, 1825. Sanderson made the communication to me within a month or six weeks; I told Mr. Green about a week afterwards - Sanderson remained in their service till July last; there are four servants in all, including myself; there is a female and a boy beside me and Sanderson - the female had no access to the shop. Mr. Henry Green was always in the business, and Mr. John, occasionally - it is Sanderson's duty to make the bags; I sleep in the house; the paper was kept on an open shelf - the shop is locked up at eight o'clock at night, and I kept the key; the servants have access to the paper in the day time, but I can tell what would be used; the boy or Sanderson could take it when they wanted it - I swear it had not been used in the business.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Could such a quantity be used without your knowledge? A. It could not; it would take a long time to make it into bags, and we never use it for bags - I had a particular reason for taking down the quantity there. I travel sometimes - but was not out during this time.

COURT. Q. On the 24th of July, was there a stock of bags so as not to require more to be made? A. Yes; the bags are made of cartridge paper - not of this sort.

MR. WILLIAM GREEN . I am a stationer, and live in Clement's-lane, and am the eldest son of Mr. Green. I supply the paper for the business - in July last I sent them a ream of double crown blue, and one of double wove yellow, and some other papers; in consequence of what was said to me I advised Jordan what to do about the paper - I have since seen some paper produced; it is impossible to swear to paper - but, to the hest of my judgment, it corresponds in every particular, and I believe it to be part of the reams which I delivered them; it is of the same quality, size, fabric, and from the same maker - I compared it with what was left; there was no wrapper on it.

Cross-examined. Q. How long have you supplied them with paper? A. About seven years; I have sold them a

great quantity in that time. I called there about ten minutes after it was delivered - I saw it on the floor of their warehouse; I do not deal with several manufacturers - the same maker supplies other people, no doubt - I will not swear that the paper had ever been in my possession; the blue was charged 27s. a ream, and the white about 25s.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Do the prosecutors have as much paper as a retail dealer would take? A. Much less; I suppose two or three reams of each sort of this paper would be more than their supply for the year.

JURY. Q. Are they machine or hand papers? A. I believe these are not machine paper; the edge of machine paper is cut, and hand paper is not.

MR. JOHN GREEN . I am in partnership with my son Henry. Sanderson had been about fifteen years in our employ, and was confidentialy employed, till I had reason to suspect him - I am seldom in town. In July last, in consequence of what came to my knowledge, I called him into the counting-house, about three o'clock in the afternoon - it was on a Tuesday, towards the end of the month. I desired Mr. Jordan to repeat, in his presence, what he had said to me; he said he had lost several quires of paper. I had made him no promise of forgiveness, or said any thing at all to him; Jordan said he had missed five quires of paper - that he had taken an account every morning of what there was for several days, and every day had missed some; the prisoner was silent, or said he knew nothing about it, I forget which; I then said there was a rogue in the house, and that he was the man. I observed that he shook a little; he said he knew nothing about it; I persisted that it was him; and at last he acknowledged that he had taken it, and if I would look over it, he would do so no more, and would pay me for what he had taken. I told him that would not be done - that it was not that alone, but I had to accuse him of a great many other things, as he must be aware of - he denied any thing else. I saw him again before I went out, and asked what he had done with the paper - he said he had sold it; and, after some hesitation, he said he sold it to a man in Lime-street, without naming him, and got 6d. a quire for it; after some further conversation, I sent for Wiltshire, the officer. I then said, "Will you tell this officer where you have sold the paper?" he named the man soon after; two officers left the place with him. I went out of town, and next morning I saw the paper at the Mansion-house - it appeared in every respect part of the paper missing. Jordan produced two quires of the paper, and it appeared to me to be the same.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you take an active part in the business? A. Not now, nor did I in 1825.

MR. HENRY GREEN . I am in partnership with my father; soon after Jordan came into our employ he made a communication to me, respecting Sanderson; and after that I had frequently missed property in small quantities, which could hardly be missed at the time. I had a padlock put on the large tea cannisters; I afterwards missed other things; there was paper missing in July last; the circumstance was mentioned to me on the 27th; I ordered the paper to be counted daily - but I believe that was done before, when I was out of town - I was not present at the conversation with Sanderson, so as to give a particular account of it.

Cross-examined. Q. Had something been said to you about a half-crown piece? Yes; I never heard my father say he should be forgiven if he made a communication. Jordan gave me information within a month of the time when he came. I missed property the next day, and almost daily afterwards.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. What was your reason for keeping Sanderson? A. I wished positively to discover who the thief was, and not to accuse any body improperly; the deprodations were always trifling; but the whole, together, was considerable.

WILLIAM WILTSHIRE . I am a City officer. On Tuesday, the 31st of July, I went from Messrs. Greens' with Sanderson - he took me to the house of Bewick, No. 30, Lime-street; "Dealer in marine-stores" is written over the door; the stock chiefly consisted of old iron, rags, and such things - when we came to the door the prisoner Bewick was in the back part of the passage; Sanderson said,"That is the man I sold the paper to;" I went up to Bewick, and said, "Where is the paper you purchased of this man?" Bewick answered, I never bought any of him;' he then opened the door, and we went into the shop, which is a dark place backwards. I again said,"Now, where is the paper you bought of this person?" he said, "I never bought any of him." Sanderson said, "Yes, you bought some of me yesterday;" Bewick then took up some loose sheets of paper, which laid on the top of a quire of brown, and a quire of white which I produce; Sanderson then took hold of the two quires, and said, "This is the paper;" I then took Bewick and the paper into custody.

Q. Were the two quiros concealed from view? A. No; it might he seen under the loose cloth. I have had it ever since - Mr. Green saw it at the Mansion-house, he compared, and claimed it.

Cross-examined. Q. From first to last he denied buying it of Sanderson? A. He did; his shop is on the ground floor - he opened an inner door to admit us - but when I first saw him in the passage he slammed that door too - there might be more paper in the place, but I did not search for more - this was all Sanderson pointed out - he did not say, in Bewick's presence, what he sold it him for.

MR. WILLIAM GREEN . I believe the paper produced is the same as these samples, from the bulk - there is no water-mark, but from the texture, quality, and colour, I believe it to be the same; it is worth 1s. 3d. a quire - the brown also agrees in every respect, and is worth 10d. or 1s, a quire.

Cross-examined. Q. How many thousand quires you may have sold in a year, you cannot say? A. I supply nobody but my father with that sort of paper - the manufacturer may sell a large quantity.

The prisoner Bewick put in a written defence, denying most solemnly that he had ever purchased a single sheet of paper of Sanderson; stating that he dealt in paper, which he had witnesses to prove; and that he regularly purchased of wholesale dealers.

JOHN PERKINS . I am a wholesale stationer, and carry on business at Bull Wharf-lane, Thames-street. I have dealt with Bewick, and sold him paper of different sorts at different times, bag-cap and small-hand; I do not know that I ever sold him any like that produced; small hand is about half the size of this; I may probably have sold him paper like that produced, but not lately - not within

the last three years; I should think this bag-cap is heavier than what I have sold him - it is impossible to identify bagcap - the maker could not do it, not to distinguish one sheet from another.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. When did you sell him any paper at all? A. About three months ago; I sold him bag-cap, small-hand, and lumber-hand - it is perhaps, five years since I have sold him any of the sort produced; I believe I have sold it within seven years, but not within five; I sold him some paper about one month before I sold the bag-cap - I generally sold him a ream or a bundle at a time - I do not believe any of this paper to have been sold by me.

BENJAMIN PEWTRISS . I am a stationer, and live at No. 5, Russell-street, Mile-end-road. I have sold Bewick some paper; I am what is termed a jobber; my cousin, in Gracechurch-street, is a wholesale dealer; I have sold the prisoner some bag-cap; I have sold him some white paper like this, of this fineness and quality - it was machine cut, and so is this; I have sold him some quires of it, some reams, or bundles I should say - I will not swear that this is the paper I sold him, but it was similar; I defy any manufacturer to swear to a single quire of paper. I have sold him some bag-cap like this, but after it goes out of my hand I cannot swear to it.

Mr. ADOLPHUS. Q. When did you sell him any bagcap? A. I think about the middle of July - I have not brought my books here - I was not desired - I generally sell for ready money - I do not deliver invoices - I take it my self, and receive the money; I think I sold him three bundles, one of bag-cap, and two of this sort, which is double crown - I believe this is machine cut; I bought my paper of my cousin in July last - I bought about 25l. worth altogether, but not more of this sort than I sold to Bewick - this paper is similar to that; I will swear it is the same quality - it is as near the size as can be - I cannot swear to half an inch - it was about the 10th of July.

MR. BARRY. Q. I suppose you have sometimes sent him invoices? A. I have.

COURT. Q. Did you appear at the Mansion-house when Bewick was under examination? A. No; I was not desired to attend.

W. WILTSHIRE re-examined. Bewick was remanded from the Wednesday till the Friday, to bring forward invoices of the party whom he said he bought the paper of.


Transported for Seven Years .

There were two other indictments against the prisoner.


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-42

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1630. CHARLES SMITH was indicted for feloniously assaulting Francis Jones , on the King's highway, on the 1st of August , at St. Mary Magdalen, Milk-street , putting him in fear, and taking from his person, and against his will, 1 watch, value 2l.; 1 seal, value 20s.; 1 gold ring, value 3s., and 1 piece of ribbon, value 1d. , his property.

FRANCIS JONES . I am a licensed victualler out of business , and live at Mr. Westbrook's, the Poulterers' Arms, Honey-lane-market. On the 1st of August I was returning from my brother's at Islington; Bow-church clock struck a quarter past eleven as I turned out of Milk-street - I was quite sober: in turning out of Milk-street, up Russia-row , just as I got up against the bar which crosses the row, a person met me cross-ways, and struck me violently on the face, quite suddenly - I had said nothing to him - he was alone; finding him catch hold of my watch, I called out Stop thief! it was a silver watch, and had a seal to it; the blow made me fall - I had two black eyes, and my face was nearly cut to pieces; I was in a dreadful state for three weeks - my lip was cut inside my mouth, full an inch long - it was a very violent blow - I was picked up senseless, and did not know where I was for a quarter of an hour after, when I found my self under the pump in the market, being washed, in consequence of the blood coming from my mouth and nose. I caught hold of my watch seal as I was falling - it had a steel ring to it; the ring broke, and he got the watch, leaving the seal in my hand - it was so momentarily done, and so violent, that I could not distinguish the person who struck me - I spoke when I found my watch going from me - I merely called Stop thief! but never spoke afterwards - I was not able; I saw my watch again soon after I recovered at the watch-house; the prisoner was then in custody - it was the same watch as the person took from me, and was mine.

JOHN BARKER . I am a watchman of Cripplegate-within - my heat extends within two doors of Honey-lane-market. On the 1st of August, about a quarter-past eleven o'clock, as I was standing on my duty, I heard a call of Stop thief! from Russia-row. I had not seen either the prisoner or the prosecutor - I then saw the prisoner run from Russia-row to Honey-lane-market; I am positive he was running; he might be about twenty-five yards from me, when I first saw him - I saw he was coming towards me and concealed myself in a door-way; when he got within two yards of me I ran out and seized him; he made a blow at me; I lowered my head, avoided the blow, and secured him; while he was struggling with me, he put his hand into his waistcoat or breeches pocket, and threw something into the middle of the road; I heard it fall and saw it go from his hand; I drew him to the place immediately, and picked it up; it was a watch, without any appendages. I took him to the watch-house, which is in Aldermanbury, about one hundred yards off; the prosecutor came to the watch-house about ten minutes after; his face was very much cut, and bleeding very much; so much so, that he could not speak plain, for the blood which flowed from his mouth; I showed him the watch - he said it was his - I asked what he knew it by - he said I could not open it with my finger only; I tried and could not - he said "Now, if you will take the point of a knife and try, it will open;" and it did so - he gave the same account of the transaction as he has now, and produced the ribbon, seal, and key, which he said belonged to the watch - the prisoner said nothing.

FREDERICK BENNETT . I am a smith, and live at No. 139, London-wall. I was at the watch-house when the prisoner was brought in; the prosecutor came in in a few minutes - his face was very bloody and was cut; his nose was cut across, and he had two black eyes; he gave the same account of the transaction as he has now; the watch was produced, he owned it by the number, and explained how it would open, as the watchman has stated; there was no seal or ribbon to it; he produced the seal, ribbon, and

key, belonging to it: he had them in his hand. I have had the watch ever since.

Prisoner. Q. Did he not look at the watch before he told the number? A. No.

FRANCIS JONES . This is my watch; the number is 5566. I cannot say whether I gave the number at the watch-house. I am certain I never looked to see the number; I have no doubt of it being mine. I bought it of Mr. Mills, Ludgatehill, eighteen months ago; and, in consequence of an accident, it will not open without a knife; the steel ring broke with my laying hold of it.

Prisoner's Defence. I was in Cow-cross about half-past ten o'clock that night, and a lady asked me to carry a parcel for her to the Bull's-head Inn, Whitechapel - she gave me 1s. for my trouble; and as I returned I heard a cry of Stop thief! I saw three or four men run down the street; the watchman tried to stop two, but they passed him; I run behind and he laid hold of me. I was then taken to the watch-house.

JOHN BARKER re-examined. At the time I heard the cry of Stop thief! there was not another soul in the street.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 18.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-43
VerdictNot Guilty

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1631. JONATHAN WILKINSON and EDWARD LLOYD were indicted for stealing, on the 11th of July , 1 calf, price 50s. , the property of George Raynes .

GEORGE RAYNES . I live at Kentish-town. On Tuesday, the 10th of July, I saw my calf safe with the cow in a field, in Maiden-lane - it was about five weeks old, and sucked - it was white, and had a few black marks about the head; it had no halter on, and was running with the cow - I missed it next morning, and found it in Mr. Coleman's field, near Whittington's Alms-houses, Highgate-archway.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. I believe you have since sold it? A. Yes - the fences of the field were in a bad condition; it is possible it might have strayed - the cow remained in the field.

DANIEL MAY . I am a watchman. On Wednesday morning, the 11th of July, about five minutes past three o'clock, I was standing by the brick-field, in Maiden-lane, and saw the prisoners coming down the lane from Highgate, towards this field - I returned to the top of the lane, and was standing in the road - about ten minutes before four o'clock I saw them returning with a white calf; it had a small cord tied round the neck - they were driving it before them - they drove it up the hill into Highgate - and in about five minutes I saw the calf come running down the middle of the road, and the prisoners in the path way, running after it - I tried to stop it, but did not - it ran down the hill towards Holloway - I ran about three hundred yards down the hill, and called to another watchman to stop it, but he did not - I returned and saw the prisoners running after it - I told Lloyd, (who was foremost,) that I had done all I could to stop it - he said it would run by every thing - I suspected nothing then - I saw no more of them, and do not know what became of the calf - I swear they are the men; they were about a quarter of a mile from the field when I first saw them with it - I can only swear that the calf was white.

Cross-examined. Q. There was no disgnise about them? A. No; they did not try to go away - I could not swear to the calf - there were some gaps in the fence of the field.

NICHOLAS ARMSTRONG . I am a watchman. On Wednesday, the 11th of August, a few minutes before four o'clock, I saw the calf running down Highgate-hill, which is not a quarter of a mile from Maiden-lane - May called to me to stop it - I saw both the prisoner's running down the hill after it; it was white - I did not observe any black spots on it.

Cross-examined. Q. I believe the prisoners are milkmen? A. I do not know; I had my watchman's dress on; they followed it up the hill and down again - I spoke to them; it was broad day light.

THOMAS JOHN COLSON . I am toll-taker at Highgate-archway. About four o'clock on the morning in question the two prisoners brought the calf up to the gate - the prisoners went up to the calf, and it went back again; they had a hard matter to stop it - they drove it through, and Lloyed paid me 2d. as the toll for them both; it was white, and I believe, had a few black spots on the head - I saw them turn up by some houses. I told Raynes which way the calf had gone.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you not tell the Magistrate you did not know whether there was any mark on it? A. I said I believed there were some black spots; and I believed the calf produced then was the same, but I did not notice it sufficient to swear to it.

HENRY SHELTON . I am a milkman, and live with Mr. Raynes. I saw the calf in the field between seven and eight o'clock in the evening, and missed it about six in the morning - we found it that morning in Mr. Coleman's field.

Cross-examined. Q. Might it not have strayed? A. It might - there were five other calves in the field.

THOMAS HAUGHTON . I am superintendant of the watch. I saw the prisoners driving the calf up Highgate-hill; it went in a different direction to what they wanted.


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-44
VerdictNot Guilty

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1632. EDWARD LLOYD was again indicted for stealing, on the 8th of July , 7 sheep, price 7l. , the property of James Heygate , the younger .

MR. LAW conducted the prosecution.

JOHN THORNE . I am gardener to James Heygate , Esq. , of Hampstead . On the 8th of July, at half-past eight o'clock at night, there were seven sheep penned within the hurdles in his field - I missed them at six the next morning, and found three or four of the hurdles had been taken down, and laid flat on the ground; they were Southdown sheep, marked H. in a circle; they were brought back on the 11th or 12th; I had seen the prisoner about a month or six weeks before, in the long grass, very near to where these sheep were, but we had none then; I asked why he was trespassing there - he asked if I never walked round fields myself - I told him to walk out; he said he should go when he pleased. Mr. Heygate's premises join Lord Mansfield's, and are about a mile and a half from Somer's-town.

THOMAS GOSS . I am a drover. On the 8th of July, at night, I was by the Elephant and Castle, going to Smithfield; I saw the prisoner with seven sheep, marked with a round O on the rump, and an H within it; I walked with him for a quarter of a mile - he asked me to let him mix the sheep with mine - he did not say why; he did not appear to know how to drive them; they were Southdown sheep; I parted with him at the end of Skinner-street, Somer's-town. I was informed he was in custody on the 11th; I went to Kentish-town watch-house, and saw him, but did not recollect his person then.

Q. Why do you speak to him now? A. Why, I did not own him at the watch-house, because the officers had had me in custody, and so I would not answer them - I have been several times in custody, but only for rows.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Repeat your last answer - did you say only for rows? A. No, Sir - I was once in trouble about a smock-frock; I do not know whether I was charged with stealing it. I was in gaol two months after being tried. I have not been in custody fifty times, nor twenty-five, nor half of that. I am not going to satisfy you.

Q. How many times have you been in gaol? A. About eight times - I will not swear to ten; I was only tried once - that was about the smock-frock. I described the man who had the sheep to Brown, as a country looking man, and said I could swear to him among five hundred - that he was a stout man, with a red face. I did not, to my knowledge, say I should get 20l. if I convicted this man; I will not swear about it; I do not want to convict the man; I said it was a much stouter man, but I have explained my reason for that. I never said I should not swear to him if Dr. Owen had not threatened to lock me up, or any such thing. My life has been threatened outside the gate. I have only been in custody once on a charge of theft.

MR. LAW, not being able to support this witness' testimony, withdrew from the prosecution.


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-45
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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1633. GEORGE HAIG was indicted for that he, on the 25th of May , at Allhallows, Honey-lane , feloniously did falsely make, forge, and counterfeit a certain order, for payment of money, to wit, the sum of 30l., which said false, forged and counterfeited order, for payment of money , is as follows, that is to say,

Messrs. Coutts and Co. 24th of May, 1827.

Pay the bearer the sum of Thirty pounds, which place to my private account. L. STANHOPE . with intent to defrand Henry Baldwin , against the statute.

SECOND COUNT, for feloniously uttering and publishing as true, a like forged and counterfeited order, for payment of money, with a like intention.

MR. CLARKSON conducted the prosecution.

HENRY BALDWIN . I am a tailor and draper , and live in Cheapside. I know the prisoner. On the 14th of May last, between one and two o'clock, he came to my shop, and said he wanted a pair of trousers and a waistcoat made by one o'clock, the next day; he left a 5l. note with me as a deposit, and said he also wanted a Greek uniform, and we should see the pattern of it at Mr. Currie's in Regent-street; he gave my young man a direction to Currie's to get the pattern, and said he would call again, in the course of two hours, when he had obtained it; he accordingly did call again; we took his measure for the uniform: and when we had measured him, he left 15l. with me; he said he wished me to take charge of it till the evening, as he was going into the City, he might as well leave it with me.

Q. Before he deposited the 15l. with you, had he said any thing about Greece? A. He said he wanted the uniform to go out to join Lord Cochrane, as he should have a letter of recommendation or introduction to Lord Cochrane, to get an appointment there from Lord Stanhope; he left my house, and returned about nine in the evening, or a little after, and I returned him the 15l. - I had taken the numbers of the notes he left with me - I kept the 5l. he had first left; he called several times between the day he ordered the goods, and when he called to settle - I did not see him on all those occasions; he called on the 24th or 25th of May, between six and seven o'clock in the evening - I had his account made out ready, in consequence of something I heard - I presented the bill to him when he called; he looked at it, and said he should require discount; and then said, "Can you give change for a cheque?" - I asked how much it was; he said 30l.; he did not say whose cheque it was - I said I could change it, and he gave me the cheque - this is it (producing it); he gave it into my hands, and I saw the signature; he did not say himself whose it was; this happened in the counting-house, when we were alone - I went up to my desk, and gave him the balance out of the cheque, and asked him to write his name on the back of the cheque, which he did; I deducted my bill, and lessened the discount; he then asked me to return him the deposit money, having included every thing in the bill, and I returned him a 5l. note, not the same which I had received from him - I took the number of it in his presence; it was raining, and he asked me to lend him an umbrella, which he would leave in the morning - I rather hesitated at lending it, as it belonged to a friend, but I did lend it, and he said he would leave it the next morning; the uniform was finished at that time, but he left without it - he did not ask for it; it was ready for him, but I expected he would call next morning; he did not call - I did not see him again, till I saw him in custody at the Mansion-house, on Saturday, the 1st of September - I have a foreman named Blanchard.

Cross-examined by MR. BRODRICK. Q. How many persons have you serving in your shop? A. Two besides myself; they are both here; he called several times, and had conversations with me at times; the deposit of 5l. remained with me till I last saw him.

Q. The goods were ready for him, but he never asked for them? A. He took a jacket with him, two or three days after the order was given; it was all ready when I received the cheque; the uniform amounted to 20l. odd; he did not get that; nobody was with us when he paid me the cheque. I believe I recollect all that passed between us; it was on the 24th or 25th of May.

Q. When the cheque was handed to you, did he not tell you it was one he himself had cashed? A. No, he did not; he merely produced the cheque; he had represented Colonel Stanhope as his friend frequently, all the way through.

Q. That through his interest, he expected an appointment under Lord Cochrane? A. Yes; I am not certain whether I was at home all the next day; either I or one of my shopmen would be at home all day; he put the name of George Haig on the back of the cheque - I believe that to be his right name; it was the name he gave us when he first came, and which we wrote in the order-book.

COURT. Q. Had he the waistcoat and trousers away? A. He had them the next day, as he desired; the jacket he took away, was an undress uniform; the change I gave him was between 4l. and 5l., besides the deposit.

FRANCIS BLANCHARD . I am foreman to Mr. Baldwin; I saw the prisoner in the shop, for the first time, on the 14th of May, and measured him that day for his uniform suit. Mr. Baldwin had measured him for the waistcoat and trousers before I came in; he said it was to be a midshipman's uniform, in the Greek service; before I measured him he gave me an address in pencil on this paper,(read) - "Currie, 20, Regent-street, St. James" - he said he understood Currie had made uniforms for that service, and I should there get the regulations - I went, but got no information there - I got it throught a private friend - On the morning after Mr. Baldwin received the cheque - (I believe it was the 24th or 25th, or perhaps the 26th, I had seen the prisoner at my master's house the day before) - I took the cheque to Messrs. Coutts', and presented it, but received no cash for it.

Q. From the evening before you presented the cheque, until the 1st of September, had you ever seen the prisoner? A. No; on the 1st of September, at near ten o'clock in the morning, I was coming up Walbrook, and on turning round into Bucklersbury, I met him; I accusted him, and told him he was a pretty sort of a fellow to have uniforms made, and to say he was going out under Lord Cochrane, and giving a cheque to my employer; he denied it; he said, "O! it was not me;" he then ran from Bucklersbury to the back of the Mansion-house, towards George-street - he walked two or three yards and then ran, as I have stated; no more conversation passed between us before he ran - I pursued him, and after running some time, I cried Stop thief! thinking he was gaining ground on me - I overtook him myself, seized him by the collar, brought him near the Mansion-house, and Turnpenny, the officer took him in charge.

Q. Were you at home on the day after the prisoner had been to your master's house? A. I presented the cheque as soon as I came to business - I returned from Coutts' between ten and eleven o'clock, and was at home the rest of the day - he never came to the shop while I was there.

Cross-examined. Q. The reference to Currie's was merely to ascertain the uniform? A. Yes; they did not choose to give me information - when I called Stop thief! after him, he appeared as if he could not run at all - he did not directly stop, but slackened his pace, and I then got up to him.

COURT. Q. What do you mean by his appearing as if he could not run at all? A. He did not run as he had before - he went from one side to the other, and slackened his pace.

GEORGE MACK . I am in the prosecutor's employ, and was at home on the 24th or 25th of May, when the prisoner called at the shop. I was afterwards at the Mansion-house, when he was in custody - he was not told it would be better for him to confess, or worse for him if he did not - I, the foreman, Turnpenny, and the prisoner, were standing together - the prisoner spoke first; I am sure nothing was said to him in my presence; he said he was very sorry, that he intended to call and pay Mr. Baldwin - Turnpenny said it was a forgery; the prisoner said it was not, and he could bring witness forwards to prove that he did not write the cheque; and said he had been to France in pursuit of the person he took it off - that was all that passed between me and him. I do not recollect any thing more.

Cross-examined. Q. That was the answer he gave you on being charged by Turnpenny with forgery? A. Yes; he did not say whether he had been able to find the man.

HENRY TURNPENNY . I am an officer of the Mansion-house. On the 1st of September the prisoner was given into my charge in George-street, close by the Mansion-house, by Blanchard, a little before ten o'clock in the morning; he was examined the same day - there was some conversation in the lobby before the examination - what he said was not taken down; I did not make him any threat or promise. I said it was a forgery; he said "No, I can prove to the contrary of that;" and, I think, he said he had been to France to look after the person he had it from. I had seen him before the Lord Mayor once before, about a drunken frolic - he was discharged immediately.

RICHARD MINSHAW . I am a clerk at Messrs. Coutts and Co.'s banking-house. We have several customers named Stanhope, but only one whose Christian name begins with L., and that is the Dowager Countess Stanhope, whose name is Louisa - we have no others commencing with the letter L. (looking at the cheque) - this is not the hand-writing of Dowager Countess Stanhope, nor of any customer of ours named Stanhope. I am acquainted with all their hand-writings.

JAMES POWELL . I am a clerk in the agency-office of Messrs. Greenwood and Co., Craig's-court, Charing-cross - they are army agents - we have several customers named Stanhope; Colonel Lincoln Stanhope is one, Colonel Leicester Stanhope is another - we have no other customers named Stanhope, whose Christian name commences with the letter L.: (looking at the cheque) this is not the handwriting of either of those persons, nor the hand-writing of any other customer of ours, to my knowledge.

Cross-examined. Q. Are there any customers named Stanhope, whose hand-writing you do not know. A. Yes; there are. I have seen Colonel Leicester Stanhope write, but not Colonel Lincoln Stanhope.

MR. CLARKSON. Q. Have you seen any writing with the name of Lincoln Stanhope to it? A. Yes, frequently - I have marked drafts of Lincoln Stanhope for payment, and they were paid - I have done that very frequently; the two Colonel Stanhopes are related; there is another Colonel Stanhope, a customer - his Christian name is Philip, and, I believe, John - his initials are P. J.

Q. Have you any other customers named Colonel Stanhope, whose Christian name begins with L., except Lincoln and Leicester? A. I do not know any more.

Q. Should you know if there were such? A. I might know; but if I saw a draft presented hearing another sig

nature, I should refer to the Army List to see if there was such a name. I do not know any customer of that name whose writing is like this.

Q. Are you in the habit of paying drafts of the other customer named Stanhope, beside those you have named? A. No; I belong to another department; I should see the signatures of those officers whose names are Stanhope, provided we were agents for them.

MR. BRODRICK. Q. There are other departments which you have nothing to do with? A. Yes; I can only speak of those officers who are in my department - there may be gentlemen named Stanhope, whom I have nothing to do with.

COURT. Q. Do Lincoln or Leicester Stanhope sign their names with an L., or in full? A. They both invariably sign in full.

RICHARD MINSHAW re-examined. Lady Louisa Stanhope writes her name in full.

The cheque was here put in and read.

Prisoner's Defence. My Lord, and Gentlemen of the Jury. - From the peculiar circumstances under which I got possession of this cheque, I cannot bring witnesses to prove it. I gave cash for it. I was in the practice of attending a gambling-house in St. James', and there frequently saw a young man of respectability, whom I understood to be the nephew of Colonel Stanhope. And, as I was about joining the Greeks, I thought if I could get an introduction to the Colonel, it might be of service to me. he played one night, and lost all his money, and requested me to cash this cheque, which (being a considerable winner at the time,) I had no hesitation in doing. I was given to understand, on the following night, that it was not genuine. I lost what money belonged to me; and since that have not had an opportunity of calling on the prosecutor to take the cheque up. On person, in particular, saw me cash that cheque, but I am afraid he would not like to come and give evidence in a public Court, because it may be the cause of his losing his situation.

MR. BRODRICK to RICHARD MINSHAW . Q. Look at this cheque - there is no London to it, and no amount in the corner - would you, as a clerk, pay such a cheque? A. No, not unless it was on a stamp - it must be dated from some place.

COURT. Q. You would not pay it without a stamp, because it had not London on it? A. No. I should make no objection about the figures not being in the corner.

JAMES POWELL re-examined. I do not know whether either of the Colonel Stanhopes were in town in May last; they generally reside in town.

Four witnesses gave the prisoner an excellent character, and stated his name to be George Haig.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 18.

Upon the Second Count only .

Strongly recommended to Mercy by the Prosecutor and Jury, on account of his youth and former good character.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-46
VerdictsGuilty; Not Guilty

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1634. JAMES CONST was indicted for a rape , and JOSEPH COLTMAN as an accessory to the said offence .



13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-47
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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1635. CHARLES ALDERSON was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Samuel Cushway , on the 13th of August , and stealing 1 shawl, value 3s. 6d.; 1 lace veil, value 4s., and 3 handkerchiefs, value 3s. 6d. , his property.

HUMPHREY EASLEY . I am a butcher and live in Church-street, Bethnal-green, next door to Mr. Cushway. On the 13th of August, about three o'clock in the afternoon, I saw the prisoner stand leaning against Cushway's window, and having some suspicion, I took him into custody, and in his hat found a gown and two handkerchiefs, and a veil in his pocket - I gave him in charge.

WILLIAM CUSHWAY . I am the son of Samuel Cushway . I was at work in the house, and being alarmed, I found the prisoner in charge - I walked behind him to the watch-house, and saw a handkerchief fall from his person; this property was taken from the window, which somebody had broken - it was quite whole at twelve o'clock. I had not seen it after that time.

SUSAN CUSHWAY . I know these things to be my husband's property; he is a clothes salesman - I was out at the time of the robbery.

Prisoner's Defence. I had picked the things up.

GUILTY. Aged 21.

Of stealing only . - Transported for Seven Years .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-48

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1636. WILLIAM PENNY alias BUCKLEY was indicted for that he, at the delivery of the King's Gaol of Newgate, holden for the County of Middlesex, on the 25th of October, in the 1st of year of his present Majesty's reign, by the name of William Penny , was tried and convicted on an indictment against him for felony, and was thereupon ordered to be transported beyond the seas for the term of his natural life; and afterwards, to wit, on the 6th of September instant, feloniously was at large, without any lawful cause, at the parish of St. Luke , before the expiration of the said term, for which he had been ordered to be transported, against the statute .

SECOND COUNT, the same, only omitting to set out the caption of the Session, and the indictment upon which he was before convicted.

MR. ADOLPHUS conducted the prosecution.

FRANCIS KEYS . I am one of the Bow-street day patrol. I produce a certificate of the conviction and sentence of the prisoner Penny; I cannot say that he is the man - I took him into custody, at a house in Brick-lane, St. Luke, Middlesex, on the 6th of September; the signature to this certificate is the hand-writing of Mr. Shelton, clerk of the gaol delivery.

The certificate was here read, stating that Wm. Penny had been convicted in October Sessions, 1820, of stealing, on the 25th of September, one watch, value 20s.; one ribbon, value 1d., and one key, value 1d., the goods of Richard Cornelius , from his person; and sentenced to be transported for the term of his natural life.

CHARLES READ . I am an officer of Union-hall. I know the prisoner, and was present when he was tried and convicted here, in October, 1820. I am certain he is the man.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Were you present at his trial? A. Yes; I was a witness against him; I am positive I cannot be mistaken in him: he was tried by the name of William Penny - there were two other witnesses against him. I have reason to remember him, because I got ill used in taking him.

JOHN VANN . I assisted in apprehending the prisoner, in the parish of St. Luke, on the 6th of September.

Prisoner's Defence. I deny the charge - I have been taken for the wrong person; I am in the habit of travelling the country with pottery - the people who know me, are in the country.

MARY EVERETT . I know that the prisoner's name is Buckley; I have known him ever since his birth - I never knew him go by any other name.

MR. ADOLPHUS. Q. Were you here in October, 1820? A. No.

Q. Did you see the prisoner in 1820, seven years ago? A. I have not been on this side of the water - I saw him three months ago; I had not seen him for seven years before that, but then I did not live near him.

ANN LITTLEWOOD . I have employed the prisoner for the last three months; he behaved well, and was just, sober, and honest.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 21.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-49
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1637. GEORGE NELSON was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of August , at St. Leonard, Shoreditch , three coats, value 5l.; one pair of boots, value 1l.; one pair of shoes, value 2s.; one shirt, value 3s.; one pair of spurs, value 2s.; one hat, value 1s.; 1lb. of cheese, value 5d.; 1lb. of soap, value 6d., and 1 loaf of bread, value 4d., the goods of Stephen Symonds , in his dwelling-house .

MARY MARSHALL . On the 8th of August I was servant to Stephen Symonds , who lived in Devonshire-street, New North-road , in the parish of St. Leonard, Shoreditch; he was then in the wholesale woollen trade , but now keeps a tavern - it was his dwelling-house. About one o'clock on that day I was sitting in the back parlour, at dinner, and heard a noise up stairs - I went to see what it was; when I got up three stairs, I saw the prisoner, who was a stranger, standing at my master's bed-room door - he must have got in at the back door; I immediately ran up to him, and said "You rascal, what do you do here, with my master's clothes on?" he had got master's coat and boots on - and had another coat hanging over his arm; he immediately dropped that on the floor, and I caught hold of his collar; he never spoke, but tried to get down stairs - I held him fast; we got to the bottom of the stairs together, and he broke from me - I caught hold of the tail of the coat; he drew me out into the field; the coat came off, and he got away. I ran and hallooed Stop thief! and he was immediately stopped by a witness - I ran up stairs and found the prisoner's boots standing at master's bed room door; I ran back, and said "Hold him, for he has got master's boots on:" we found them on him - he begged for mercy. I said,"You rascal, you shall have the law;" he said, "Let me go back, and I will give you every thing I have got, to let me go;" I said, "No; I will have an officer, and you shall be taken; I insist upon it." I went with him to the watch-house, and delivered him safe there; my master's boots were taken off his feet, at the watch-house - I took off his hat, and found a new shirt of master's in it; the officer searched him at the watch-house, and found the soap, cheese, and spurs on him - I said they were master's; he said, "You liar, the cheese is not yours;" I went home, and found our cheese was gone - and missed a piece of soap and a loaf; the property had all been in the bed room before.

WILLIAM SARGOOD . I heard the last witness call Stop thief! and saw several persons running after the prisoner, who was foremost, he was stopped before I got to him - I went with him to the watch-house; she took off his hat, and the shirt dropped out; she said it was her master's.

EDWARD JOSEPH BIRCHELL . I am an officer, and produce the property, which I have had ever since.

STEPHEN SYMONDS . This was my dwelling-house at the time in question, and is in the parish of St. Leonard, Shoreditch. I was not at home when the robbery happened - these are my coats; the one he had on is worth 2l. - it cost me a good deal more: the other two coats, the boots, shirt, and other things are mine - they are certainly worth 6l. together.

Prisoner's Defence. I have no relation in town. I have a very good situation, but did not like to send to my master. I have lived with Mr. Withen, at the corner of Baker-street, Portman-square.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 19.

Recommended to Mercy by the Prosecutor, not having used any personal violence .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-50
VerdictGuilty > manslaughter

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Before Mr. Justice Gazelee.

1638. MARY NEWDALE was charged, upon the Coroner's Inquisition (only,) with the wilful murder of Elizabeth Davis .

ELIZABETH TURNER . I lived in James-court, Featherstone-street. On Sunday evening, the 29th of July, between six and seven o'clock, I was sitting in my room; the prisoner called me over to her apartment, and told me to look at Elizabeth Davis how she was spending her money in drink; Davis was spending her money in her own room: Davis said she was doing nothing but spending her money, and treating the people underneath - she was treating them with rum; she was neither sober nor drunk. The prisoner said if she came up there drunk, she would break her neck down stairs, or chuck her out of window; the prisoner was not sober herself. Davis had lodged in the prisoner's room for four or five nights, but was treating the people below; they had not quarrelled at all that I know of. Soon after this I was sitting at my door, and saw Davis come out of the house; I persuaded her to go up stairs again - she went up, and as soon as she got to the top of the stairs, she fell down again; I ran across to pick her up; Sarah Evans and another helped me up stairs with her into the prisoner's room, and we put her on the bed - I did not know that she was dead for some time afterwards - she never spoke. I did not see whether she got to the top of the stairs before she fell; when we got her up into the prisoner's room, the prisoner was there with a man who had been with her (the prisoner) all night and all day; there was but one bed in the room. I believe the deceased had been out all night; but before that they had slept in the same bed.

Q. Where was the prisoner when you went up? A. She was walking about the room, saying she would chuck her down stairs again, and break her neck, not knowing then

that she was dead. We took no more notice of the deceased for full an hour, but let her lay, thinking that her being in liquor made her not speak. I staid in the room about an hour, then went to the bed-side, and found she was dead - she was not cold. I directly sent for Mr. Smith - he came, and while he was looking at her, the prisoner tied up her clothes, and went away with the man; he had said she was dead before she began to tie up her clothes. After she had tied them up she took a pint pot, and said she would cut the deceased's head open - Evans and several more took it from her; she went away with the man - I have not seen him since - he had never been there before. Mrs. Evans lodged in the lower room, under the prisoner. I found the prisoner in a wine-vaults in Whitecross-street, about five o'clock the next morning, drinking rum - she was neither drunk nor sober. I asked what made her leave her room when she knew the woman was dead - she said, I could not say she had killed her; I said it looked very black of her to leave the room in the manner she did; I persuaded her to come home, and when she came, they asked how she came to murder the deceased; there was a watchman and several more in the room - she said she did not push her down, but dashed her down stairs.

Prisoner. Q. Had she not a black eye, and a black spot on her right arm a week before this? A. She had a black place on her arm, but she was hearty and well; it was a bit of a bruise - I believe she had fallen out with a young man whom she lived with - neither of them were sober; whether she had got to the top of the stairs, or whether she fell, or was knocked down, I cannot tell; her head struck against the street door as she fell.

SARAH EVANS . I live at No. 5, James-court, Featherstone-street. I do not know where the deceased lived - I had seen her backwards and forwards in the prisoner's house, two or three times. On Sunday afternoon, about half-past five o'clock, I saw her come in, and go up stairs to the prisoner's room; she was very much intoxicated - I was in my own room, on the ground floor; she was no sooner up stairs, than I heard her fall down - I ran to her assistance, and called somebody to help her up. Turner, and one Bradham came and helped me up stairs with her: we laid her on the prisoner's bed, not knowing then that she was dead; the prisoner was in the room, and a man sat there, who was a stranger to me; they were drinking porter - I continued there all the time, and in about three hours, we found she was dead; we had not spoken to her, when we took her up stairs; being intoxicated, we laid her down, thinking she was gone to sleep, and took no more notice of her - I went to awake her, but receiving no answer, I felt her forehead, and found she was very cold. I called to the prisoner, and said, "This woman is dead;" they immediately came to the bed-side; the prisoner was very much in liquor indeed; she seemed much alarmed at the woman's death, as she had known her some time - I made an alarm: two medical men came; the prisoner stopped there some time; she then got a cap, gown and shawl, and went away - I think she took them more for security than any thing else.

Q. When you went up stairs with the deceased, did you hear the prisoner say any thing? A. I heard her say nothing at all; she was very much in liquor, about an hour after, and had been out, she took up the quart pot, and said she would strike the corpse; she attempted to strike it, but I knocked the pot out of her hand, and threw it under the table.

Q. Did she attempt to strike, or only say she would? A. She did not attempt it; she was very much in liquor; she went away, and was brought back about half-past five in the morning, by Turner; she had only lived there about three weeks - I never heard her quarrel with the deceased.

JANE GOFF . I live with Mr. Wyatt, 21, Featherstone-street; the prisoner came over to my mistress' place, a little after eight o'clock that night, and said, "Will you take care of these things, for some person is killed in my room, and I shall lose them;" my mistress said she would have nothing to do with them; she threw the clothes on my lap, and went out of the room - I took them into the parlour, and then went to the deceased's lodgings, and found the prisoner there; she took up a pot, and said, "If you don't take the b-y corpse out of my room, I will split its head open, and out of the window it shall go;" she went to hit the deceased with the pot. Evans took it out of her hand, and threw it under the table. I went home directly.

ELIZABETH BUCK . I live in this court. I heard a noise, went over, and saw the deceased on the bed; the prisoner had a pot in her hand, and said she would cut our heads open, and the deceased's too. Evans took it out of her hand.

MARY STEELE . I live in James-court. I was out all day on Sunday. I heard a woman had been killed, and went to look for the prisoner next morning; she came into a wine vaults, in White-cross-street, where we were; we asked why she went away; she said she had done nothing to run away for; we asked why she pushed the woman down stairs; she said she did not push her down, she dashed her down; she returned with us to the house where the deceased laid - I left her there; she appeared to have been drinking, but walked very well.

THOMAS DEVINE . I live in Cannon-court, Grub-street. My brother had cohabited with the deceased for eight years; they had separated at this time. On Sunday evening, the 29th of July, I heard of this affair - I went with my brother to where the deceased lay dead; it was about a quarter past nine o'clock; the prisoner and several people were in the room; she seemed very agitated indeed; the deceased had a little money, and 9s. were delivered up to my brother; we went to the deceased's mother, returned, and the prisoner was gone - I sat up with the corpse all night, and next morning; about six o'clock the prisoner was brought back, and shortly after three watchmen came in; one of them questioned her; she seemed agitated, and said, "I own I dashed her down;" the people in the room said she ought to be taken into custody; she was a good deal questioned, before she said that; the deceased's mother lived in Cock-court, Aldersgate-street; but she herself had lodged with the prisoner for five or six nights.

WILLIAM SMITH . I am a surgeon. I was desired by the Coroner to inspect the body previous to the Inquest - my apprentice had been fetched on the night in question: I found the neck dislocated between the first and second vertebrae - I considered that sufficient to account for her

death, and made no further examination - extreme violence would occasion that dislocation; falling down stairs was as much calculated to produce it as any thing - it might happen whether she fell or was thrown down; but the greater probability would be, that it would happen from being thrown down with violence.

Q. Supposing she had fallen backwards, from the top to bottom of the stairs, and struck her head against the door, would that occasion it? A. Not if she fell flat - it was represented to me, that she had fallen with her head doubled up with the body - if she fell against a surface hardly equivalent to the length of her body, I consider the consequence would be the same, whether she fell or was thrown backwards.

JOHN INWOOD . I am a watchman of St. Luke. I heard at the watch-house, that a woman had been killed in James-court, and went there with one or two watchmen, and saw the prisoner there, very forward in liquor; four women were there accusing her of murdering the woman - she was in a violent state and agitated - I heard her say, she had dashed her down - I kept her in the room till Harrison came, and took her in charge.

THOMAS HARRISON . I am an officer, and took her in charge at seven o'clock in the morning - I asked if she had done it - she said No; I asked who the man was in the room - she said there was no man in the room with her.

JOHN DEVINE . I went to the room about nine o'clock with my brother - I had cohabited with the deceased, and left her about three days; we had not entirely separated; she came backwards and forwards - she had lived about four nights in the same room with the prisoner - when I got to the room I found her dead - I went to tell her mother - the prisoner came back about six o'clock in the morning; she was intoxicated - the people in the room asked her how she came to do such a thing - she said she had dashed her down.

Prisoner's Defence. I took these things away to give to my landlady, and when I returned, three men stood at the door, and would not let me in - I was obliged to stop out all night - I was coming home in the morning, and these women said, "How came you to kill the woman?" I said, "No, I did not" - I have witnesses who were in the room when she fell down stairs.

THOMAS BRANDLEY . I live in James-court, right opposite to the prisoner. On Sunday, the 29th of July, as near half-past six o'clock as possible, I was sitting outside the window, and saw the deceased coming down the court; she was very much intoxicated, and put her hands against the wall to save herself from falling; she got up into the prisoner's room, and after being there not more than ten minutes, she returned, and came down stairs - she was within five stairs of the bottom, and pitched her head right up against the corner of the door-post, and in falling, dropped her money out of her hand, which was 13s. and 1/2d. - as I sat, I could see up the stairs; I never saw a soul near her - I could see further than where she fell from - I kept my seat; my wife and Turner went and helped her up - the witness Turner was very much in liquor - I heard that she was dead in about two hours; I then went up into the room, and saw her lying on the bed; I said, "This poor creature is dead;" I came away; they were all very much in liquor together - she pitched right on her forehead, and bent her neck under her.

MARY BRANDLEY . I am the wife of the last witness; when the deceased fell down stairs, my husband called me to help her up - I went and helped her; I was coming away directly, and they called me back to count the money which fell out of her hand - I did not know she was dead - Turner was not sober; the prisoner and the deceased were very much in liquor - I heard of her death two hours afterwards,

THOMAS WILD . I am a shoemaker, and board at No. 21, Featherstone-street. On the Sabbath evening in question, I was at the table going to partake of supper; the prisoner came in, and said, "A person had dropped down dead in my room" - I got up, went to the room, and the scene of iniquity was beyond description; they were swearing - I could not be heard; several of the witnesses for the prosecution were in the room; all of them in the state I have described - at last I found one who was able to answer me - I asked if a medical man had been sent for; they said Yes, and I returned home, seeing I could be of no use. Hearing the prisoner was to be tried, I thought it my duty to state what I knew.

Q. She had brought her clothes to your house? A. Yes; she appeared in a flagrant drunken state, and all her person exposed.

COURT to SARAH EVANS . Q. You saw her go up stairs, and think she had not time to get into the room? A. She could not; she was no sooner up than down; when we went to her assistance, her two feet were on the stairs, and her head bent on one side towards the door; she laid on her back.

MR. SMITH. The fall described by the witness, agrees with the state I found her in - it would arise from the manner she states she fell.

Q. Would the dislocation have been the same if she had fallen forward, as the other witness describes? A. Yes; there would have been a different separation of the parts.

T. WILD re-examined. Evans was intoxicated; all the witnesses were not drunk, but several were; Turner was drunk; Goff lived servant at our house - her name is Liberty, not Jane - she followed me to the room and I left her there - I did not see Buck or Steele there; my stay was short.

GUILTY. Aged 26.

Of Killing and Slaying only . - Confined Six Months .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-51

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1639. JAMES BUSHELL was indicted for stealing, on the 22d of August , at St. Anne, Westminster , 1 watch, value 10l., the goods of James Ely , in his dwelling-house .

JAMES ELY . I am a jeweller , and live in Soho-square . On the 22d of August, the prisoner came into my shop with another person, having the appearance of a foreigner; the prisoner entered first, and asked to see some gold bracelets and ear-rings, which I showed him; the bracelets were not handsome enough, and he asked to see the ear-rings, which I showed him - they were gold; he selected five or six pairs of gold ear-rings, and requested I would take them up to No. 37, Baker-street, Portman-square; he gave me the name of James Butler, and said he would undertake to say one pair would be kept, as he wanted to make a pre

sent to a lady; he told me to be there between nine and eleven o'clock next morning - I had told him the prices - he liked the handsomest pair best. Before they left the shop my wife came in, and, as soon as they turned out of the shop, she said something to me - she looked and missed something.

LYDIA EMILY ELY . I am the wife of the prosecutor - I saw the prisoner in the shop on the 22d of August; he had been there about a minute when I came in; a person, having the appearance of a foreigner, was with him - they were looking at gold ear-rings, which my husband had taken out of the case to show them; the prisoner was the only one who spoke; a tray laid on the glass case, close to the prisoner, but not close to the foreigner; the tray had been drawn out, and laid on the glass case - I had put that tray to rights not half an hour before, and had seen a gold watch in it, set with turquoise on both sides - it cost my husband ten guineas - the selling price was fourteen guineas, which mark was on it; as soon as I came into the shop, the prisoner said, "Give me a piece of paper, and I will write my address," which he did; he then said,"You will be with me to-morrow morning between nine and ten o'clock, and I will promise you that one pair of the ear-rings I will keep:" they went out of the shop - the pair he thought he should keep was 10l. or ten guineas; he said he was going to make a present of them to a young lady; I suspected them, and within a minute of their leaving the shop, I missed the gold watch I before mentioned; the prisoner stood near the case - the other, I do not think, was within reach of the watch.

Cross-examined by MR. McDOWELL. Q. How long had the prisoner been in the shop before you entered? A. About a minute, because I was in the parlour with the door open when they came in. I heard what passed, and could see what was done in the shop. I always observe if a second person is in the shop, but being engaged in stringing coral, I could not immediately go into the shop - I was noticing them all the time, and could see who was nearest the counter. I could not see what he was doing with his hands certainly. I left off stringing the coral the moment they came in. I could see that the other man did not move from the place he stood in, and it is my firm belief, that he was not near enough to the case to touch the watch - the prisoner was close to the case - our shop is a large one - it has been a parlour, it is on the south side of the square, next door but one to the Bazaar; there is only one counter, which continues down the shop, and then turns the corner. I have a full view of the counter as I sit at work - the parlour is large. I sit at a table close to the door, in order to have a view of the shop. I rose from my seat immediately they came in, but it was a minute before I entered the shop. I had my suspicions when they came in.

Q. The prisoner stood near the tray, of course you observed his movements very narrowly? A. I could not see his hands - I could see his face - he had been in the shop before, and raised my suspicions before. I could not see his hands move - he was too clever to let me do that. I endeavoured to get into the shop as soon as I could. I did not see him remove any thing from the tray. I discovered the loss immediately they left the shop, and mentioned it to my husband - he did not follow them - he did not suspect them before, or he might have caught them. I looked at the ear-rings first, then looked at the tray, and missed the watch, and told my husband; he immediately went to Baker-street, to see if such a person lived there; the prisoner had looked at the bracelets before I entered the shop; he never spoke to the foreigner - he entered the shop first, and the foreigner close at his heels - they were together; my attention was not directed to one more than the other - I had a full view of both of them; if half a dozen persons were in the shop they could not get out of my view - the foreigner might be a yard from the prisoner; he stood out in the shop, not at the counter; he only looked at one pair of ear-rings, but did not touch them - the prisoner showed them to him, and he merely nodded.

Q. Of course he stood close to the foreigner when he showed him the ear-rings? A. No - he did not; he held them up to him. I do not believe he spoke to the foreigner at all, if he did, it was something very quiet.

WILLIAM WILLIAMS . I am a pawnbroker, and live at No. 92, St. Martin's-lane. On the 22d of August, (I think it was towards the evening) the prisoner came to our shop, and offered to pawn this gold watch - there was a Frenchman outside the door, on the steps, he wanted 5l. on it. I offered him 3l.; he said he was afraid that would not do, he would inquire; he went to the door, spoke to the person who was waiting, then came back and took the 3l.; he gave me the name of John James , No. 18, Castle-street.

Cross-examined. Q. What is the value of the watch, in your opinion? A. I should think about 6l.; I should think that the extent at this present time; there has been no particular alteration in the value lately; it is a common French watch; it is set with turquoise, which is a common stone; 6l. is the outside value, I supposed the other man to be a foreigner.

MR. ELY re-examined. I went to the house in Baker-street, and found no such person as Butler lived there. I paid ten guineas for the watch; they would not make the cases in this country for the money - there is a great deal of work in them - it is mine.

Cross-examined. How do you know it? A. As well as I should know you, if I saw you to-morrow. I have had it eight years, and then paid ten guineas for it; I think now it might be bought for eight guineas; the works are very good. I would give eight guineas for it now, if I wanted it to sell again; the prisoner stood close to the tray; the foreigner was as far off as I am from that lamp (about a yard and a half) - I do not think he was nearer; he did not move but once, I believe. I did not see the watch in either of their hands; I never said I had - there were seven on the tray, but I did not see them touch one; they did not ask to see watches. I did not hear any conversation between the prisoner and the foreigner; it was about three o'clock in the afternoon.

WILLIAM WILLIAMS . The watch was pawned about six o'clock, as near as I can recollect.

Prisoner's Defence. Your Lordship must have remarked on the former trial, that I did not seek, in the least degree, to question the testimony of the witnesses; but, I declare to God, there is such wilful and corrupt perjury in this case, that it cannot pass without remark. I declare positively that Mr. Ely, before the Magistrate,(though not exactly under examination at the time) stated that he saw the watch in the hands of the foreigner; that

I was near the window, and the case was about the middle of the counter, and the foreigner, being in the middle of the shop, it was impossible for me to have touched the watch. I declare he stated this to the Magistrate, though it is not in his deposition. On my former trial these persons were in Court, and as they found the Jury acquitted me, supposing I was only the interpreter, they have judged it necessary to charge their statement. The lady particularly expressed her intention of prosecuting me, and hanging me. I understand, from good authority, that the gentleman himself said he would prosecute me, and showed the most decided intention of making me his victim. When I went into the shop I spoke French from beginning to end. The prosecutor says he showed me several pairs of ear-rings and bracelets, and the lady says I was not a minute in the shop before she saw me. I trust you will consider these circumstances, and make allowance for my accomplice (as it is supposed), being absent. I shall call Norman, the pawnbroker, who will state how I appeared when he accused me of having gone to several shops; that I appeared totally innocent from my manner, and went immediately before the Magistrate; it was my own proposition; he insisted on my going out of the shop myself, while he made inquiry. I was prepared to answer this charge, but being now unprepared by this wilful perjury on the part of this gentleman and his wife, I am deprived of the means of rebutting it immediately.

MR. ELY re-examined. Q. Did you, before the Magistrate, say the watch was in the hands of the foreigner? A. I did not; I do not believe a word was said but what was taken down in writing; my deposition was not taken before the Magistrate, but by a clerk in an office; the prisoner was not present at my conversation; I did not at any time state the watch had been in the hands of the foreigner, and have no idea of its ever being in his hands. I have taken great pains to find the foreigner, thinking him the worst, he being old enough to be the prisoner's father. I should suppose him about forty-five years old, but he took my attention very little, as he took no part in the business.

Prisoner (reading.) At the latter end of June, on my return from France, I came by Dieppe to Brighton, on board the steam-packet. I entered into conversation with a Frenchman, who had all the appearance of a gentleman, with whom an intimacy was soon established; he told me he had already visited England, and had some acquaintances in London, but had no knowledge whatever of the English language. I immediately offered my services, and we came to London together; on our arrival we put up at the same hotel, from whence he requested me to accompany him to Giraudier's hotel, in the Haymarket, where he said he had lodged before; he then inquired for Mrs. Giraudier's brother, who had served him as an interpreter during his former stay in England, but was told that, from a situation he now occupied, he was prevented from acting in the same capacity; then, and not till then, did he propose to me to act as his interpreter, promising to remunerate me for my loss of time; I acceded to his request, and then he confided to me that he was by profession a jeweller - that his object in coming to England was to inform himself of the price of every article in that line; after which he intended to have a large quantity of French jewellery brought to England if the prices suited - thus we went about to different jewellers, where he always contrived to employ me in writing what he dictated, which prevented me from observing his proceedings: he now and then begged me to act as if for myself alleging as his reason, that a Frenchman asking the price of English jewellery, might excite suspicion, as every article was much cheaper in France than in England; and his being a foreigner would induce them to ask a larger price; this was so plausible, I did not hesitate to do as I was told. In the course of a fortnight he gave me a ring to pawn; and on expressing my astonishment at his being obliged to resort to those means, he replied, that not receiving remittances as he expected, he found himself short of money; in a word, he accounted for every thing in so natural and plausible a manner, that I am convinced any person in Court would have been deceived as I was. I shall now proceed to the cause of my apprehension. I went to Mr. Norman's with the Frenchman to pledge a diamond pin. Mr. Norman informed me he had received positive information that two persons, answering our description, had committed robberies to a large amount, and that he was obliged to ask me how I became possessed of the diamond pin. I translated what he said to my companion, who immediately took flight, while I remained astonished at his sudden departure. Mr. Norman begged me to give my name and address, which I immediately did - and said he would make inquiry if I returned in a quarter of an hour. I offered to remain while he made these inquiries; but he told me it was not necessary. I returned in a quarter of an hour, and he said, in consequence of information he had received, he felt it his duty to give me in charge of a constable; but on seeing my companion was absent, he told me to bring him with me. I went to three houses where he was in the habit of going; and not finding him there, I was going home, and, near my own door, I met Mr. Ely and another man, who called upon me to go before a Magistrate. I accompanied them without the least hesitation, and have not since seen the Frenchman.

MR. ELY. I reached a pair or two of ear-rings out of the window, and most likely the watch was taken then, as my back was turned to him during that time.

Prisoner. Both state the articles were shown to me only - consequently their eyes must be directed to me only.

JANE ANN GIRAUDIER . I live at No. 42, Haymarket. I first became acquainted with the prisoner when he arrived in England, two or three months ago; he was accompanied by a Frenchman, named Perren, who represented the prisoner as his interpreter; I had known Perren eight years ago, when he was in this country for eighteen months - he was a jeweller and dealer in diamonds, and lodged at my hotel; he did not speak a word of English, and my brother acted as his interpreter.

Q. How do you know he dealt in diamonds? A. My brother told me so, and I have seen jewellery in his possession; my brother acted as his interpreter immediatcy he arrived; he has only been in this country once since.

JAMES EDDERLY . I am a tailor, and live in Panton-street. I know the prisoner, and have seen him in company with Perren, who appeared to me to be a foreigner. I have made clothes for him - the prisoner interpreted for him. I

have seen diamonds in Perren's possession - he told me he dealt in them.

Q. Can you speak French? A. Yes - he did not interpret between me and him. I am a Frenchman. I only know that Perren called him his interpreter. I offered my services if he wanted any thing in a hurry; he was about forty or forty-two years old.

MICHAEL TURNER . I am shopman to Mr. Norman, a pawnbroker, of Princes-street, Soho. I know the prisoner - I was present when he came to our shop, accompanied by a foreigner; the last time he came was when Perren brought a diamond brooch; I believe that is about three weeks ago, it was the day the prisoner was apprehended - he came to the shop, accompanied by Perren, before he was taken into custody - Mr. Norman communicated to him his suspicions.

Q. Did the prisoner return to your shop in a quarter of an hour after those suspicions were communicated? A. Yes - he returned with me; Mr. Norman sent me to inquire if he lived in Pulteney-street; I went to his lodging, to inquire, while he remained at the shop - he heard me sent to his lodgings, and just as I was returning the prisoner came up to me; Mr. Norman had let him go out of the shop - he returned with me to our shop.

COURT. Q. What was the charge against him at that time? A. Mr. Norman suspected him of having stolen a brooch. I heard no charge made about this watch at the time.

Prisoner. It is a French watch, and if I had had any suspicion that would have driven it away - I was led to suppose it belonged to him.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 21.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-52
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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1640. ANN GARRAWAY was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of August , 1 gold chain, value 7l.; 1 seal, value 30s.; 1 spoon, value 1s. 6d., and 1 watch, value 30s., the goods of Charles Thomas Hanson , in his dwelling-house .

CHARLES THOMAS HANSON . I am a jeweller , and live at No. 75, High Holborn . On the 10th of August, at seven o'clock in the morning, I saw my watch, chain, and seals hanging on a nail by the fire place in the parlour, behind the shop - I missed them and a spoon about eleven o'clock. I do not know the prisoner. The next day the chain and seal were brought to me by Brown, the officer. I found the watch in pawn a few days afterwards. The house is not mine - I only rent part of it, of Mr. Torrington; I have the shop, parlour, and kitchen: he lives in the house himself, on the second floor - he lets out the first floor; I have a seperate entrance: there are two doors - he enters by the private door; there are two shops in front of the house: nobody has access to my part of the house.

JOHN BOARDS . I am a pawnbroker, and live in Shoreditch. On the 10th of August, about six o'clock in the evening, the prisoner came to pawn this gold seal and chain - she seemed confused, and asked if I could afford to lend 3l. on them - she seemed much confused; I asked what she gave for them - she said nothing; I asked her how she came possessed of them - she said they were her husband's, and they were given to him - that she lived at No. 9, Holywell-lane; I forget what name she gave, though I wrote it down at the time, and sent my shopman there with her; he took her to Worship-street, and returned to me in ten minutes; she had produced a spoon to me. I gave the chain and seal to Brown, the officer. I think I have seen the prisoner before.

Prisoner. Q. I told you the young man who was standing outside gave it me to pawn? A. She said it was her husband's.

JAMES BROWN . I am a constable. Mr. Boards' shopman delivered the prisoner to me, between six and seven o'clock in the evening; I went to Boards' house immediately after locking her up, and received a plated table-spoon - and at the office he delivered me the chain and seal. I found a sovereign on the prisoner. I found the watch in pawn at Burgess', Old-street-road - she said she lived in Bear-alley, Fleet-market, which I found correct.

ELIZABETH HUGHES . I live in the same house with Mr. Hanson. On the 10th of August, about eleven o'clock in the morning, I was coming in by the private door, and met the prisoner in the passage - I have nothing to do with Mr. Hanson's door, but he has a door, which comes out of his parlour into our passage. I live in the two back rooms on the second floor. Mr. Hanson has a door leading from the street into his shop, but he has to cross the passage in which I met the prisoner, to get into his parlour; if he went into his parlour without going into the shop, he must go in at the same door as I do. The prisoner was coming along the passage - I said nothing to her.

Prisoner. Q. Was it eleven or twelve o'clock? A. Eleven; she went up to the shop window of Mr. Layton, the miniature painter, and then returned into the passage.

CLARA HILLIER . I am servant to Mr. Hanson. I saw his watch, chain, and seal on the mantel-piece, at half-past ten o'clock, and missed them about eleven. I did not see the prisoner there.

THOMAS LAYTON . I am a miniature painter, and have the adjoining shop to Mr. Hanson. The prisoner was at our house on the 10th of August, about eleven o'clock - she asked me the price of a child's picture - I am certain she is the woman; she was only there while she was speaking.

THOMAS PETO . I am a pawnbroker, and live at Hoxton. On the 10th of August the prisoner came to our house, and brought a chain and seal, to ask if it was gold - she asked what it was worth, and said her husband was going to buy it; I told her about 5l. - I considered them worth that.

JAMES HILLIER . I am shopman to Mr. Burgess, of Old-street-road I cannot swear to the prisoner, but on the 10th of August a woman pawned a watch, for 1l., in the name of Ann Morris - it is worth 30s. I think the prisoner is the person.

MR. HANSON. These are my property - I gave 7l. for the chain, two years ago, and consider it worth that now; there are two shops, Mr. Layton has the other; his door is also used as a private door - it leads to the passage; I have the use of that passage, to get into my parlour.

The prisoner put in a written Defence, stating she received the sovereign from her father, to purchase some toys, with a view of going into business - that she had gone into a public-house, where two men and a woman had persuaded her to drink - that she came out rather the worse for liquor, and one

of the young men asked but to pawn the chain and seal, and if asked any questions, to say, she had had them some time.

GUILTY. Aged 23.

Of stealing, but not in the dwelling-house .

Transported for Seven Years .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-53
VerdictGuilty > theft under 100s

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1641. JOHN HODGES , FRANCIS TODD , THOMAS LUMBLEY , and THOMAS WHEATLEY , were indicted for stealing, on the 18th of August , 60lbs. weight of horse-hair, value 9l., the goods of William Purkis , their master , in his dwelling-house .

WILLIAM PURKIS . I am a horse-hair manufacturer , and live at No. 9, Worship-street, Shoreditch . I employ about thirty men and women of different ages. Hodges has worked for me about thirteen years, Todd about two, Lumbley one, and Wheatley has been twice with me. On the 19th of June I opened two bales of horse-hair, which came from South America - they weighed about 20cwt.; the prisoner, with others, had the working and clearing of it; I was losing hair daily from that time till the 15th of August. Daniel Murphy came to ask me for work on the 16th of July - he was an entire stranger to me - I engaged him; he worked with me a fortnight, and then left, for what cause I did not know. On the 15th of August, at nine o'clock, he came and gave me information; I went to Garton next morning, with Murphy; I got a search-warrant, and went to No. 48, Church-street, Mile-end, where one Stockings, an old servant of mine, lived; Hanley searched his house, in my presence, and found a lot of Irish ox-tail hair, and South American horse-hair - I knew it to be my hair - it had been twice in my hands since the Sunday before, at one o'clock; I particularly remember having had it twice - it was not finished property - I can swear to the whole of the hair - nobody but Stockings and his wife live in the house.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Have you any partner? A. No.

JAMES HANLEY . I am an officer of Worship-street. I went with Garton to Purkis' house, about eight o'clock on the evening of the 17th of August; the prisoners Hodges, Todd, and Lumbley, were leaving work; I laid hold of Hodges and Todd, and on searching Hodges I found, concealed between his shirt and skin, this hair, and in his right hand breeches pocket, I found another parcel of hair; on searching Todd I found nothing on him, but this paper of hair was on the ground, between him and Hodges, and it was not there when I first got there - I afterwards went to Lumbley's lodgings, and found a very small quantity of hair in a cupboard - there was a bunch of bristles, and a little hair; I afterwards went, with Armstrong and Purkis, to Stockings' house; neither of the prisoners lodge there, that I know of; I found a quantity of hair there (producing it.)

Q. Did you say any thing to Hodges to induce him to say anything? A. No; on taking him from the watch-house to the office, he said the hair found in his breast he had taken from his master's kitchen.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you given them any notice that you intended to stop them? A. No; I found nothing on Lumbley's person - I searched his lodgings very minutely, and found only this small quantity - he said it was his own.

THOMAS GARTON . I am a constable, and went with Hanley to Purkis' house, and took charge of Hodges, Todd, and Lumbley; I saw the hair found as he has described; one parcel laid between Todd and Hodges; I received charge of Wheatley next morning, at Purkis' house; I afterwards went to Stockings' house, and found the hair.

JOSHUA ARMSTRONG . I was with the witnesses, and found the property.

DANIEL MURPHY . I worked for Mr. Purkis for a fortnight - all the prisoners worked there; I left his service for fear I should be brought into this business, as I saw them take the hair away round their bodies every mealtime, at breakfast, at dinner, and at night; I saw Hodges conceal some round his body every day during the fortnight; I saw Todd take some every day, in the same way; I only saw Lumbley do it once - he took about 1lb. or 11/2lb., out of the kitchen, about three days before I left; I saw Wheatley take hair away round his body every day while I was there; Mr. Purkis sleeps in the house adjoining his shop - I left because I was afraid they would draw me into it.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you afraid your principles would be corrupted? A. They asked me every day if I would have any thing to do with it; Todd, in particular - I was once accused here of stealing a fowl, but was acquitted honourably; I was in gaol about five weeks - I have not been accused of any thing else - that was last Session - it was before I gave this information; I came to work for Mr. Purkis again after I told him of this.

Q. Was it not to get into his employ that you gave him information? A. No - I could not rest without telling him - it was about 1lb. or 11/2lb. of long hair that Lumbley took.

Prisoner TODD. Q. Did I not ask why you were going, and you said you would see master d-d before you would work for 6s. a week? A. No - I saw you take hair every day while I was there. I was afraid to tell - I thought I should get them all hideing me.

PHILIP WADE . I have worked nearly ten years for Mr. Purkis. I have seen all the four prisoners take hair, and conceal it round them. I only saw them do it once. I saw Lumbley and Wheatley do it at the kitchen stairs - they took 1lb. or 11/2lb. I saw Todd and Hodges take some about a week before. Todd took about 1lb. and Hodges took 1lb. or 11/2lb. a week or two after that.

Cross-examined. Q. Are you now in the prosecutor's employ? A. I left once because I got more wages. I thought they were doing wrong, but I was afraid to tell my master till he asked me about it the day after the prisoners were taken. I worked for Mr. Purkis' foreman when I left him - it was long black hair that Lumbley took.

WILLIAM PURKIS . I believe the hair to be mine. I can swear to what was found on Hodges, for I had seen it twice that day - the hair I lost was worth about 3s. a lb.

LUMBLEY's Defence. That hair happened to be among some which I found in an old chair.

HODGES' Defence. Wade first wished me to take it.

PHILIP WADE. It is false.

TODD's Defence. I worked hard for Mr. Purkis, and had but 7s. a week - he would never give me more - he accused me several times of taking hair, which he had no proof of.

WHEATLEY's Defence. I know nothing about it.

ELIZABETH SMITH. The hair found at Lumbley's lodgings appears to me to come out of a chair which I sold him. HODGES - GUILTY. Aged 16.

TODD - GUILTY. Aged 24.



Of stealing under the value of 5l.

Transported for Seven Years .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-54

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1642. JOHN KEATON was indicted for feloniously assaulting William Everington on the King's highway, on the 4th of August , at St. Giles in the Fields , putting him in fear, and taking from his person, and against his will, 1 half-crown, 15 shillings, and 1 sixpence , his property.

WILLIAM EVERINGTON . On the 4th of August, a little before two o'clock in the morning, I was in the parish of St. Giles, coming down towards Holborn . I received a blow on the side of my head, which knocked me right into the kennel; a person had asked me the way to Holborn. I received the blow directly, and fell straight forward into the kennel; two more came up - (the prisoner was one of them) they pulled me on my side, tore my pocket out, and part of my shirt with it - they got 18s. 4d. out of my pocket, which was all the money I had. As I was rising up to run after them, the prisoner struck me in the eye, and knocked me against the brick wall - it cut my eye open - I was almost stunned. Jones the watchman was five or six yards off, and I told him to take charge of him directly - I never lost sight of him. I was covered with blood, and very severely used. Jones took charge of him in my presence without my losing sight of him, and took him to the watch-house.

Q. Are you quite sure the man who struck you against the wall is the man the watchman laid hold of, and that he was never out of your sight till he was secured? A. He never was - there were two more engaged in it. I cannot swear he is the man who took my money, but he is the man who struck me when I was rising - He said "You have not got enough yet" - that was after my money was taken - he struck my head against the wall - I was stunned at first. I never lost sight of him all the time.

Prisoner. Q. What charge did you give to the watchman? A. I told him to take charge of him, for he had robbed me and struck me.

Q. Did you not give charge of me and my wife for robbing you of your hat? A. I did not - I never saw your wife. I saw a woman run away with my hat while I was rising before he struck me - I did not charge her with any thing.

GRIFFITH JONES . I am a watchman. On the morning in question, I was crying two o'clock up George-street, and just at the corner of Ivy-street, the prisoner passed me - the prosecutor called out to me to take charge of him; the prosecutor was lying with his back against the wall, and his face covered all over with blood - he had a very large cut under his right eye; he was about five or six yards from the prisoner, when he desired me to take charge of him; he said, in his presence, there were three men, that two ran away, and the prisoner stopped by; and as he recovered himself, he knocked him down where I found him - that his hat fell off, and some woman came by and took it away - he said it was some woman, but that he did not know whether it was the prisoner's wife or not - the prisoner then called two men by their names - Kelly was one I know; they came up directly, and he said to them,"Have not I been drinking beer along with you;" they both said they had been drinking beer with him - I took him to the watch-house, and the two men followed me down - when I got there, Furzeman, (the officer), said the prosecutor ought to give them in charge as well - the prosecutor said, "I cannot swear to them, but I will swear to him," and they were discharged.

Prisoner. Q. Was I not standing still when he sang out watch? A. You was standing when I came up; he did not say he gave charge of you for robbing him of his hat.

Q. Did not you say get up, "For if he had robbed you, he would not stop here?" A. I said no such thing; I went before him and stopped him.

COURT. Q. Did you see any blows given? A. No my Lord - I went up as he called watch as loud as he could; I was within three or four yards at the time, but just at the corner; there was nobody near him but the prisoner.

Prisoner. Q. Did you see me touch him? A. No; I was coming down the street, and he cried out "Take charge of that man;" he was coming towards me in a direction from the prosecutor.

BENJAMIN WYATT . I am a patrole of St. Giles. I heard the prosecutor call watch, and went instantly to him - I was standing in George-street, opposite the chapel, about thirty yards from Ivy-street, where this happened; when I got up, seeing the prosecutor bleeding, I asked him what was the matter; he said he had been knocked down by that man, whom Jones had got in his custody - they were then all three standing together - I asked the prosecutor how it happened; he said there were three of them, but he was knocked down by a young man; that one came up and asked him the way to Holborn, which he told him, and then received a blow which knocked him down; that they pulled his pocket from him, with 18s. in it, and as he was rising up, the prisoner struck him in the eye; he was bleeding very much indeed; we took him to the watch-house - he gave the same account there, exactly; as we went to the watch-house the other two men who followed us down, went before us two or three times, and said, "Was it me struck you?" he said, "No, I can swear to that man, but not to you" - and at Marlborough-street, I took him in among other prisoners, and he picked him out from five or six.

Prisoner to WILLIAM EVERINGTON . Q. Did you not charge me with robbing you of 18s. 3d.? A. No; 18s. 6d.; the Magistrate asked if I was drunk; I was perfectly sober; the constable of the night and the watch-house keeper saw that; I did not tell the Magistrate I was not sober.

Prisoner. Q. I understand he had no cut on his face at all when he was at the office.

PROSECUTOR. Every body in the office saw it.

GRIFFITH JONES . I could not perceive that the prosecutor was drunk at all; he appeared as sober as he is now - there was a cut on his face, and he was bleeding.

BENJAMIN WYATT . He did not appear drunk; he had a cut under his eye; we got some water and washed it.

Prisoner's Defence. He had no cut in his face; there was a bit of skin off, but the cut he shows now, he got somewhere else. I go to Covent-garden market early on Saturday, and in the summer time before one o'clock, I and my wife together - I got up on this morning; I had no stockings on - I was going to see what o'clock it was - I only had 21/2d.; she had a few shillings. I had a pint of beer at the public-house, and gave Kelly a drink out of it; as I came along I saw this man calling Watch! - I stood to see what it was about, and he said, "I give charge of that man for robbing me of my hat;" I said,"Why, here are the men I have been drinking with this moment" - I called the men, and they went to the watch-house, but they would not let them speak a word - Jones said, "If he had robbed you, he would not stop here;" he never took charge of me - I walked down to the watch-house, knowing myself innocent; this man followed me down, and charged me with robbing him of 18s.; the constable who entered the charge, said he was not sober; and at the office, I stood with four or five prisoners - I was telling them how our precious lives might be sworn away innocently; this man came in and said, "Yes, and I will make you pay for it;" he came into the office, and swore I robbed him of 18s. 3d.; the Magistrate said, "Are you sure this is man?" he said, "No, I am not, but I am sure he is the man who hit me" - I am innocent, as God is my judge; if I had been guilty, I would not have stopped like a fool, and looked at the man; the watchman can say the same.

GRIFFITH JONES . He could not run away - I collared him, and afterwards let him walk by my side.

Prisoner. Q. Did not I go to the public-house at the corner, and come back to you? A. I never let him go to a public-house - I kept quite close by him.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 46.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-55
VerdictNot Guilty

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1643. BRIDGET FARREL was indicted for a misdemeanor .


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-56
SentenceImprisonment; Corporal > whipping

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1644. CHRISTOPHER CORMACK was indicted for a misdemeanor .

MR. WILLIAM YOUNG . I am a silversmith and jeweller , and live in Newgate-street. On the 8th of August, about ten o'clock in the morning, the prisoner came into my shop, and gave an order into my hands, which I produce; it was addressed to me, and my son, who had been in partnership with me but was then dead - I handed the order over to Bell, my shopman, and desired him to let him have the goods to which it applied; about eight o'clock the next evening he came and presented another order, for a better brooch and diamond pin; this excited my suspicion, and I said he could not have the goods that night, I would send them down in the morning to his employer; he told me he came from Darby and Co., of Fenchurch-street, whom I do business with; he took that order away, and said he would call in the morning - I saw him again next morning. On the 10th, he brought a third order; I was called down, and looked at it; he returned one of the brooches and pins, and wanted a better brooch and a diamond pin for them - I said, "You d-d rascal you have come again to swindle me;" he made no reply, but cried, "Oh! Mr. Young," and made a bolt or two, to get away (Orders read).

"Messrs. Young and Son - Please to sendby bearer, without fail, two handsome gold brooches and one paste pin, must be very neat; charge the lowest price, as they are for a country order, for J. Darby and Son.

8th August, 1827, JOSEPH TYRRELL .

23, Fenchurch-street.

"Messrs. Young and Son=Please to send by bearer, one handsome brooch, must be good; one brilliant pin, for J. Darby and Son."

9th August, 1827. JOSEPH TYRRELL .

CHARLES BELL . I am in the employ of Mr. Young - the prisoner came to the shop on the 8th of August; Mr. Young handed me the order - I went into the warehouse to look the goods out, and laid on the counter two gold brooches, and a paste pin - Mr. Young said, "Should you like to take another brooch?" he said Yes, as it was for a customer of Mr. Darby's, a lady at the west-end of the town, and that he would take another pin; they were delivered to him - he took all four away together, they were worth 53s. On the 10th of August, about ten o'clock in the morning, he came again, and put this order into my hand - I made an excuse that I had not got the key of the jewellery; and said to the boy, "Go, and tell Mr. Young he is wanted." Mr. Young came down, and spoke to him; I was not present at first - when I came into the shop again, I saw Mr. Young come out with a drawn sword, and call him a d-d swindler; he was secured - my master said he would use the sword if he attempted to move. He only got the first goods. I produce the order he delivered to me - (order read).

Messrs. Young and Son, Please to send by bearer, without fail, one gold seal, must not exceed 3l., in addition to the order sent last night.

Signed as before.

MR. YOUNG. I produce the goods returned on the 9th.

JOSEPH TYRRELL . I was in the employ of J. Darby and Co., No. 22, Fenchurch-street, about two years before August last - I have not been with them since; I was their foreman and warehouseman; it was my place to write all the orders that were wanted - I have never written an order for them since I left; none of these orders are my handwriting - I know nothing of the transactions - they are all three forged.

JAMES GIBBONS . I am an officer, and took the prisoner into custody, and found on him two orders, on a Mr. Hughes, for paper - signed Joseph Tyrrell.

JOSEPH TYRRELL . These orders are not my writing - I know nothing of the transaction; Messrs. Darby generally use printed orders - we have sometimes sent written ones; I never sign my Christian name in full - the prisoner was in Messrs. Darby's employ at the same time with me; he has lived with them till within the last five months. I always thought him a confidential man; he has been in much trouble and distress.

The prisoner pleaded distress, stating himself to have a wife and five children.

GUILTY Aged 37.

Confined Six Months and Whipped .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-57
SentenceNo Punishment > sentence respited

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1645. GEORGE EDWARD MILLS was indicted for a misdemeanor .

MR. PAYNE conducted the prosecution.

EDWARD CROSS . I am assistant to the overseers of St. Giles Without, Cripplegate; my business is to relieve the paupers - in December, 1826, and for some time previously, I relieved the prisoner, as a pauper of that parish - I also relieved him six years ago - I relieved him again in January, 1827, and several times, till July 1827. On the 18th of July I paid him 25s. on account of his taking his wife and family from the poor-house; on the 20th of August we again took his wife and family into the house.

Prisoner. Q. Was the 25s. given to me? A. Either to him or to his wife, in his presence - I paid it on his account; I paid the money, as his wife said, he had said he would take her out of the house, if we would give her that money - he was not present then, but he came in the morning, took the money, and took his wife and family away; it was said, by either him or his wife, they would not be troublesome again; that was said in his hearing, if he did not say it himself; the wife and him were talking together.

Q. Was a direct application made to you to advance that money, on an undertaking on his part, or by his wife, in his presence; that they would not be troublesome any more? A. That was the impression on my mind; the money was asked for in his presence, on a promise that they would leave the house; he had been moved to us regularly in February, 1825, and settled in our parish, with his family - he was present when his wife received the money.

HENRY COOPER . I am beadle of St. Luke. On the 8th of January, this year, I removed the prisoner from St. Luke's parish to Shoreditch, with his wife and five children, by a regular order of removal, and delivered him to Mr. Holdham, the overseer.

JAMES HOLDHAM . I am relieving overseer of St. Leonard, Shoreditch. On the 8th of January I received the prisoner and his family to our parish, by a regular order of removal at that time - I paid him 8s., which I wrote on the order; I continued to relieve him at different times till August - our parish did not appeal against the orders. On the 14th of August I paid him 3l. 5s. to set him up in business as a box maker; I did not then know that his wife and family were in the poor-house at Cripplegate - he, himself, was admitted into our work-house on the 25th of July, with his family, and discharged on the 14th of August, when I paid him the 3l. 5s.

GUILTY. Aged 35.

Judgment Respited .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-58
VerdictNot Guilty

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13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-59
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1647. SARAH ELLIOTT was indicted for stealing, on the 4th of August , at St. Clement Danes , in the dwelling-house of James Neele , 2 yards of ribbon, value 1s.; 1 comb, value 3s., and 1 Bank note, for payment of and value 5l , the property of the said James Neele , her master , against the statute.

JAMES NEELE . I am an engraver , and live at No. 352, Strand , in the parish of St. Clement Danes; the prisoner lived with me, as servant of all work , not quite three months - I missed tea and sugar repeatedly, but none of these articles.

MARGARET NEELE . I am the prosecutor's wife. I missed from my drawers, in the first floor back-room, two yards of ribbon, a brooch, and a 5l. Bank note - the note was locked up in the chest of drawers; the prisoner left us on the 4th of August; I missed the 5l. note next morning, which was Sunday. I went to Bow-street, and got an officer; and on Tuesday morning, the servant who succeeded her, met her in the Park, and gave her in charge; she was brought to my house - her box was found at the British Coffee-house, Charing-cross; the officer searched, and found two keys, which would open all my drawers. I had seen the note safe on the 4th of August, a few minutes before the left; she had given me warning - I should have been glad to have kept her, she was such an excellent servant. I paid her her wages 25s. - I have not found the 5l. note.

JOHN WILDMAN PAIN . I am a Bow-street patrol. I was fetched on Tuesday the 7th; the prisoner was pointed out to me - I found her in a public-house, in company with a private soldier; I told her I took her on a charge of stealing a 5l. note and other articles from her master; she said"Oh! they can't prove it against me; I have not had a 5l. note in my possession how can Mrs. Neele accuse me of stealing a 5l. note, when she has been in the habit of lending 5l. notes to her husband and his brother; she must have lent him one and not put it down." I searched and found two keys in her possession - I asked where she had taken lodgings, she said, "Up there;" pointing towards Westminster - I asked her to shew me the house; she took me to the British-hotel, in Cockspur-street; she said,"That was her place, and desired I would not open her box nor let Mrs. Neele do it; but to take particular care of her keys;" she said they could prove nothing against her - I went to Mr. Neele's, and tried one of the keys, which I found in her possession - it opens the drawer the note was in; I went with Mrs. Neele to search her box, in which I found the ribbon and comb, also some new linen-drapery, with a bill of it, bought in Greek-street, Soho; amounting to 2l. 2s. 3d. - the keys open any of the drawers.

JOHN EVANS . I am shopman to a linen-draper, of Greek-street, Soho; this bill is ours - it amounts to 2l. 2s. 3d.; it is not dated, but the goods were bought about the 7th, 8th, or 10th of August. I sold the articles stated in this bill to the prisoner, and received a 5l. Bank note from her in payment; here are some of the things here which she bought; here is some tape I can swear to.

MRS. NEELE. The comb and ribbon are mine. I had a good character with her.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 31.

Recommended to Mercy by the Prosecutor, believing it to be her first offence, and on account of her previous good character. - There was another indictment against the prisoner, for larceny .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-60
VerdictNot Guilty

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1648. JAMES WHEELER was indicted for feloniously assaulting George Singleton , in the King's highway, on the 5th of August , putting him in fear, and taking from his person, and against his will, 1 hat, value 1s., and 1 handkerchief, value 6d. , his property.

GEORGE SINGLETON . I am a fishing-tackle maker , and live in Rawstorne-place, St. John-street. On Sunday morning, the 5th of August, after two o'clock (I had got up early to go to the City canal, Blackwall, to fish), I was walking along Hare-street, Bethnal-green ; there were several young men on the opposite side of the way; I believe there were twenty or thirty of them altogether; I had my basket and tackle with me; one of them called out, "Have you got any victuals?" I answered No; one or two of them got up, and as they crossed the road one said, "Have you got any tobacco?" I said No; two came behind me, and caught me round the shoulders, and were going to take my rod and basket away; one of them pulled at it as hard as he could - they were all strangers. I called for the watchman, and one of them hit me three or four times on the right ear, and knocked me down, and as I was falling one of them knocked my hat off - my handkerchief was in it; they saw the watchman coming, and ran away; the watchman came up in five minutes; I do not know what became of my hat and handkerchief - I have not seen them since; it did not fall off my head - it was taken off by one of them, I am certain; I received a severe blow, which knocked me down, and I had three blows under my right car - I could not see who was of the party, for one of them got my head under his arm, and I received some blows then. I cannot say whether the prisoner was one.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Are you sure the blows did not knock your hat off? A. No; it was taken off as I was falling; I received the blow before I lost my hat. Tuck and Cam were with me.

JAMES TUCK . I work with my father, at Mr. Adams' tile-kiln, Bagnigge-wells. I was with Singleton - seven or eight young men came up to him; they asked us, as we were going along, if we had any victuals; they were on the other side of the road - three or four came over at first, and then more followed; he said he had no victuals: two or three of them then said, "Let us go and see what the b-rs have got;" two or three got up, and crossed the road; one of them laid hold of Singleton's rod, and tried to get it from him, but he held it so tight they could not; they then began hitting him, and got his head twisted under one of their arms; one went behind him, and began hitting him in the forehead; he called for the watchman, and so did I; one of them, with a violent blow, knocked him down, and as he fell they took the hat off his head, I saw that done; as the watchman came along they all ran away. I swear that the prisoner is one of them; I cannot say whether he struck him, but he is the one who ran away with his hat - I cannot say who knocked him down, but one of them did. I saw the prisoner in custody about three weeks afterwards, and am sure he is the man who took the hat.

Cross-examined. Q. Was it dusk? A. It was rather darkish; there were ten or fifteen of them altogether; there might be more than fifteen - I swore to the prisoner directly I saw him; I cannot say whether he struck him; I could see him by the gas-light; they were all sitting by the side of the lamp; I could see them plainly.

THOMAS CAIN . I live in Tysoe-street, Spa-fields, with my father, who is a cooper. I was going on this Sunday morning to fish, with Singleton; there were nine or twelve young men on the right hand side of Hare-street, opposite the second gas-lamp; one of them came out in the road, and asked if we had any victuals; Singleton said No, but he did not know how soon we might have some; he then asked if we had any tobacco - we said No: he said, "Let us go and see what they have got;" the prisoner then followed us, and caught hold of Singleton's basket and rod, and tried to pull it away; three or four more followed very quick, got his head under their arms, and hit him; we called Watch! and as the watchman was coming, one of them struck him, took his hat off, and ran away. I will not say who took off the hat, but the prisoner is the man who first spoke to him; I saw him three weeks afterwards, and swore to him.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you observe who run away with the hat? A. I cannot swear it was him who ran away with it; I should not know the man who ran away with it: the prisoner is the one who first spoke to us - I can swear it was not him who took the hat away; if any body has said so, he must be mistaken.

COURT. Q. Are you quite sure he was one of them? A. Yes.

GEORGE WALKER . I am a watchman. On Sunday morning, the 5th of August, I was on duty in the neighbourhood; there was a cry of Watch! I was coming towards Hare-street, and ran towards the cry; when I came up I saw Singleton and the two witnesses, who complained of being robbed - I did not examine whether Singleton had a blow in the forehead - he did not complain of it; he was without his hat - I looked for it, but could find it no where - he complained of being robbed of it. I have often seen the prisoner in the neighbourhood; he has been about that beat for two years; I cannot say whether he lived in the neighbourhood, but have often seen him about Hare-street.

Q. Were you looking after him at all? A. No; I did not look for the persons. I had not met several young men about that night; the prosecutor said they had ran away.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you seen him about that night? A. No, I had not; it was rather darkish when I looked for the hat; my beat is in Hare-street, Fuller-street, and Church-row; I had been round my beat every hour.


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-61
VerdictGuilty; Guilty; Guilty
SentenceDeath; Death; Death

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1649. AMBROSE BLACKFORD , JOHN RILEY , and EDWARD READ , were indicted for feloniously assaulting Abraham Wilkinson Moore , on the King's highway, on the 16th of August , at St. Leonard, Shoreditch , putting him in fear and taking from his person, and against his will, 1 hat, value 2s., and 1 handkerchief, value 6d. , the goods of the said Abraham Wilkinson Moore .

ABRAHAM WILKINSON MOORE . I live at No. 1, John-street, Newington. On Thursday night, the 16th of August, between eleven and twelve o'clock, I was in the Kingsland-road, returning home from work. from my father's, in Clerkenwell; I was alone - and in Kingsland-road, Blackford overtook me - I am sure he is the man - I never saw him before; he walked with me till he came to a house on the left hand side of the road - he had inquired where I was going, and said he was going to Newington; when we came to the Carpenter's Arms public-house, on the left hand side, he said, he wished for something to drink; and from his appearance, I took him

to be one of the Newington carriers, and paid 4d. for what he had to drink - I took nothing myself - we were not in there more than two or three minutes - he accompanied me along beyond Kingsland-crescent, and I heard footsteps behind me - I was suddenly seized by the arm by somebody, who came up behind, and laid hold of my left arm; Blackford directly seized hold of me by the right arm, and almost at the same instant I received a severe blow in my right jaw, by a third person, who came in front of me; I was knocked down - I immediately called Watch! - the watchman came to my assistance, and they all three ran off, taking from me my hat and handkercheif - my hat was knocked off after receiving the blow - and as I recovered myself, on getting up, I saw Blackford pick it up - I am sure of that - I cannot be mistaken in him; I saw him pick it up and ran off with it - the watchman pursued them with me, calling Stop thief! till they came to the turning, where we lost sight of them. Blackford and one of them escaped towards Haggerstone; the other ran towards the Rosemary Branch - the watchman said he knew the party" - I went with the watchman to the watch-house, and gave information - the watchman went in pursuit of them - I remained there about a quarter of an hour, and in about an hour and a half, I saw Blackford and Riley brought to the watch-house - I said, I was positive of Blackford, and am positive now that he is the man who seized my arm, and took my hat - I cannot be positive of the others - I lost my hat and handkerchief, which were not worth much.

Prisoner BLACKFORD. Q. Did I drink the whole of the liquor? A. I did not say so; but I drank none; I paid 4d.

Q. Am I the only person you took in there? A. Yes; nobody was with us, not in my company.

WILLIAM NORTON . I am a watchman. On the 16th of August, about twelve o'clock at night, I was in Kingsland-road - I saw the prosecutor there, going by my box, which I was sitting in - Blackford had got hold of his left arm; Riley was close behind him - there were four of them together, including the prosecutor - there was one before; one had hold of him, and one behind him - after I saw them pass my box, I darkened my lantern, went on the other side of the way, and followed them to the extent of my heat - they had not passed many minutes before one of them had hold of each arm, and the other struck him and knocked him down; he fell on the ground - I could not say which struck him - I immediately ran across the road; two of them ran down Haggerstone-lane, and one turned across the fields, towards the Rosemary Branch - the prosecutor got up, and we followed them a little way, but it was no use to run after them, for I knew the party.

Q. Did you know the third man? A. I have no recollection of having seen Read before - I went with the prosecutor to the watch-house, to give information there: and as we came along the road, told the rest of the watchmen of it. We went to a hay-loft in Crooked-billet-yard, Kingsland-road, and met them coming in there - that was only Blackford and Riley; when they got in and fastened the door, we went in and took them - I could find nothing on them belonging to any body - I saw Blackford pick the hat up as he ran away - they both ran away together.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. How near were you to them at the time? A. I cannot say exactly how many yards - I was on the opposite side of the way - I never measured it; I was across the road; it might be eight or ten yards - I ran up instantly; I did not spring my rattle - I had not time, as it was buttoned in my coat; the watchman above sprang his rattle - I darkened my lantern while I followed them, and when the prosecutor fell, I opened it directly, to see which way they ran.

Prisoner BLACKFORD. Q. Are you quite positive I picked the hat up? A. Yes, quite; I knew you before - you had a jacket on, a waistcoat with sleeves.

Q. You did not know the other man who had his arm? A. Yes - it was Riley - he caught hold of his hand - he walked behind at first, and then one pinioned him on each side; as soon as Blackford saw us enter the hay-loft, he knew me, and said "You are a bl-y good fellow to come and take me" - that was when I said "Here are two of them here."

JAMES ORFORD . I am headborough of Haggerstone. On this Thursday night, about twelve o'clock, I was coming up Brunswick-street, Haggerstone, and met Blackford and Read coming from Kingsland-road way towards Hackney - the clock had struck twelve a few minutes before. I had known Blackford before for some years - they were walking. Blackford had a hat in his hand, holding it before him; when he saw me he put it behind him, and when they had passed me he put it before him again. I went back to them, and asked what they had got there - neither of them spoke, but Read shoved me on one side when I went to catch hold of Blackford, and Blackford threw the hat at me, and they ran across the fields - one one way, and one another. I followed Blackford, but he got into a field, and as it was very dark, I lost sight of him.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. You are headborough of Haggerstone? A. Yes - of Shoreditch-road. I know the crescent in Kingsland-road. I was coming from Hackney-road way just by the new church; when I met them I was in Brunswick-street; the gas work's clock struck twelve a minute or two before - I had not heard the church clock strike. I suppose I was about four minutes walk from Kingsland-crescent. I never saw Read before.

EVAN JONES . I am a watchman of Kingsland-road. On this Thursday night, I was standing by my box, between eleven and twelve o'clock, and saw the prosecutor and Blackford coming up. Blackford was catching hold of the prosecutor's right arm - they went by me very peaceably and quiet; the other two prisoners, Riley and Read, were a little way off behind them, about six yards behind them. I am sure of them both - they were walking in the same direction.

JOSEPH GRIMWOOD . I am a constable of Kingsland-road. On Thursday night, the 16th of August, I was at the watch-house when the watchman gave information of the robbery - the prosecutor was there, and just after one o'clock, I went to the hay-loft in Crooked Billet-yard, and there were four men lying in the hay in the loft, covered with hay - I found the three prisoners there - we took them all to the watch-house - three watchmen were with me. Read was there. I took Riley and Blackford to the watch-house first, then went back and took Read and the other - we had not strength sufficient to take them all to

the watch-house at once; the fourth man was discharged, as he could not be sworn to.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. How far from the watch-house is the hay-loft? A. About five minutes walk - we found Read there when we returned.

WILLIAM BEVAN . I am a watchman of Kingsland-road. On this Thursday night, I was at the Carpenter's Arms, about a quarter past eleven o'clock, I saw all the three prisoners there. I saw them go in there in company - the prosecutor went in at the same time. I saw them come out again in less than two minutes. Blackford went on with the prosecutor towards Kingsland - he took hold of his arm, and walked with him - the other two walked behind them - they went up the road towards Kingsland.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. You saw him go into the public-house, and the three prisoners go in at the same time? A. Yes - I saw them go in together.

Q. The prosecutor did not go in with Blackford only? A. There was very little difference - I had seen them all three together just before.

Q. Are you sure that before he went into the public-house, the three walked along the road with him A. No; the two were three or four yards behind - they were not all talking together; they went into the public-house about the same time - they had some gin. I did not go inside, but I looked in to see what o'clock it was. I did not see them drink gin. I could see them taking their gin - the prosecutor stood by their side.

COURT. Q. Did you see each of them drinking gin? - A. No; I saw one of them drinking; I cannot say which of them it was.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. You saw them all four together in the house? A. Yes; I did not see a fifth man; I only saw the three prisoners and the prosecutor.

COURT. Q. You mean all four were in the public-house at the same time? A. Yes; they stood at the bar, very near each other; they seemed to be in company; I do not mean to say they were drinking together - I did not hear any conversation between them.

Q. Then they were only in the same place at the same time? A. Yes, in the passage before the counter; the prosecutor stood near them; he might have seen them if he had looked at them.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Were they standing so near together that the prosecutor could not avoid seeing the other two? A. He could not help seeing them, I should think.

A. W. MOORE re-examined. Q. Who did you go into the public-house with? A. With Blackford; I have no knowledge of any one else - I was walking with him, and went in with him - I did not take particular notice of any one else; there might have been others there - I think Blackford spoke to some one in the place.

Q. Had you observed whether he was in company with any body before? A. No; he overtook me on the road - I did not notice any body following us in.

MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Could there have been footsteps within two or three yards behind you without your hearing them? A. There might be without my observing them - I went just to the bar of the public-house - it is in front of the door - there is a wide entrance - there is a counter before the bar; the space before the bar may be about four yards; I had not been drinking before I went in - I was perfectly sober.

JAMES ORFORD . Here is the hat that was thrown at me - I never saw Read before - it was rather dark; there was a gas-light opposite, and I have heard there is a person very much like Read.

Q. You have said, positively, that Blackford and Read were together, coming from towards Kingsland-road - that Blackford had the hat, and Read shoved you aside, and so on? A. Yes; but I said I never saw Read before - I believe it to be Read; there was a gas-light opposite - it was a very dark night - I had only the opportunity of seeing him by the light opposite - they were then about ten minutes walk from the hay-loft - the field they crossed leads that way; I am certain of Blackford; the other man went down Haggerstone-lane - that leads in the same direction - it would lead to the hay-loft also.

Q. Though you had not seen Read before, do you believe he is the man or not? A. I believe he is - it was a person answering him in every description, and he had on just the same dress as he has now, exactly so, a red waistcoat, blue apron, and that jacket, and he had a glazed hat - I saw that distinctly, and when he was apprehended he had the glazed hat on.

Q. You said there is some other person like him? A. I have been told so since.

A. W. MOORE re-examined. This is my hat; I have had it some time in wear; the maker's name had fallen out about a week before - I named that to the Magistrate before I saw it.

BLACKFORD's Defence. On the night of the robbery I had been drinking at the Eagle, in Kingsland-road; about half-past eleven o'clock, I was coming towards home: a person, who had been drinking with me, was rather intoxicated, and I led him home; this officer and a watchman came and said to me, "It is time you were at home:" I said, "I have been taking a man home." I am in the habit of going out to the markets about two or three o'clock in the morning, and thinking it was too late to go on further, I thought I would go and lay in the loft, as it would be time to get up soon; I went to the loft - the officer and watchman came to me; I was fast asleep; he said, "I want you:" I said, "For what?" he said, "You will know presently; by whose permission are you in this loft?" I said,"By the owner's." After I had been in the watch-house ten minutes, the prosecutor came in, and Jones had charge of him; the prosecutor said Jones was implicated in the robbery, and the officer would not allow the constable of the night to take charge of him, as he said he should want him to appear against the prisoners in the morning; the watchman said, "I will give charge of this man," and the prosecutor said, "Charge for charge:" he was so drunk, that he could hardly stand on his legs - they are now swearing false.

EVAN JONES . It is false; the prosecutor came back from the watch-house to my beat, and asked why I did not come to his assistance: I told him I heard nothing of it, my beat was so far from the spot; he was rather sancy about it, and I took him to the watch-house for assaulting me on my duty; he did not charge me with being concerned; he was angry with me for not assisting him.

A. W. MOORE re-examined. I was not drunk - it is

quite false; nothing was said about charge for charge; I did not charge Jones with being concerned in the robbery; after I had given information, I was told to go home, and attend at Worship-street; as I was going home, Jones asked me if any of the men were taken; I said No, but I had to attend before the Magistrate; I said I thought the watchmen on the road were very neglectful, as I cried Stop thief! very loud: he said they should have enough to do, if they attended to every cry of Stop thief! I said by their not coming forward it appeared as if they were implicated; he said, "Do you mean to say I was concerned?" I said, "No; I said no such thing;" another watchman came up; I told him of it, and I was taken in charge, because I said I thought the watchman might be implicated; they took me to the watch-house at the time the two prisoners were brought in; the watchman wished the person there to take me in charge, but he would not, as I gave him my card; I did not hear any rattle sprung at all.

Prisoner BLACKFORD. Q. How could Jones come to your assistance - Norton never sprang his rattle? A. A rattle was sprung by another watchman.

RILEY's Defence. I am quite innocent.

READ's Defence. I am quite innocent, and have witnesses to prove it.

Four witnesses deposed to Riley's good character, and one to that of Read.



READ - GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 19.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-62
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1650. JAMES GARDNER was indicted for stealing, on the 23d of June , at St. Margaret, Westminster , in the dwelling-house of George Rowe , Doctor in medicine, 1 snuff-box, value 10l.; 10 sheets, value 3l.; 6 tablecloths, value 30s.; 18 napkins, value 18s.; 8 towels, value 4s.; 4 pillow-cases, value 4s.; 2 bolster-cases, value 3s.; 13 shirts, value 50s.; 5 handkerchiefs, value 2s.; 1 pencilcase, value 8s., and 1 brooch, value 5s., the goods of John Clendinning , Doctor in medicine , to whom he was servant .

JOHN CLENDINNING , ESQ. I am a Doctor of medicine . I graduated at Edinburgh and Glasgow. I occupy the first floor, at No.5, Parliament-street , in the house of Dr. George Rowe, who is also a doctor of medicine. On the 23d of June I missed a quantity of table linen, bed and body linen, also a gold snuff-box - I am no judge of the value - I suppose the snuff-box worth from 10l. to 20l.; it is certainly worth more than 5l. - I also lost a 5l. Bank note, a gold brooch, set with garnets, worth 10s. or 20s. - I lost ten or twelve sheets - I am single, the prisoner has attended me as servant for three or four months - I did not hire him; he had access to my linen - I had seen the snuff-box in a small box in one of my drawers, some weeks before; the box was locked, and in my bed-room drawer, which was not locked; the prisoner absconded about the 23d of June, and I then missed the things; he had to attend on the family of the house, as well as me; he left the house suddenly.

JOHN KNOWLES . I am a pawnbroker, and live at No. 43, Drury-lane. In the beginning of July I bought of the prisoner, a gold snuff-box, which I have returned to Dr. Clendinning - I gave him 8l. 12s. for it; there was an advertizement afterwards, and I went to Bow-street about it - I also bought of him some sheets and shirts, for 6l. 19s., and some table-cloths; he was very genteely dressed, and represented himself as having come to London for pleasure, and having been rather too extravagant, was obliged to dispose of his property to go home to his friends in the country; he did not name what part - I produced the property at Bow-street, and detained a few articles, in order to produce, if the prisoner was taken; he came again, about a month after the first transaction, and offered to sell me a brooch - I secured him immediately - I have kept a shirt and gold pencil-case, which he sold me.

JAMES WALLIS . I am apprentice to Mr. Aldous, of Berwick-street; he is a pawnbroker. I have two shirts, which I took in on the 14th of July; they were not pawned by the prisoner, but by a regular customer.

DR. CLENDINNING. Here is the snuff-box. I received it from Knowles' master. I swear it is mine; it was in the drawers I have spoken of; the box was left behind; my keys were lying about, and he had access to them; the brooch and pencil-case are also mine; the shirt has my mark on it; they were in my lodgings at the time the prisoner attended on me; the two shirts produced by Wallis have my name on them. I do not know in what parish the house is.

JOHN KNOWLES . Parliament-street is in the parish of St. Margaret, Westminster.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 22.

Recommended to Mercy by the Prosecutor, for his former good behaviour, and believing it to be his first offence .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-63
VerdictNot Guilty

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1651. JAMES GEORGE was indicted for feloniously, wilfully, and maliciously assaulting Joseph Durden , and with a certain sharp instrument striking, stabbing, and cutting him in and upon his head, neck, and thigh, with intent of his malice aforethought, to kill and murder him .

TWO OTHER COUNTS stating, his intent to be to disable, or to do him some grievous bodily harm.

HENRY LARKIN . I live at Hillingdon. On the 10th of September I was in company with the prisoner and Durden, about half-past eleven o'clock at night; we had been to a wedding; Clarke, Cherry, Watts and Beddis were there - Samuel Rutter had been married, and we had been merry-making at his house, which is down by Providence chapel, Uxbridge - I went there about ten o'clock, and found them there; there had not been much drinking; we were all coming home together, going to Hillingdon; we sat out from Uxbridge about half-past eleven o'clock; the prisoner and Durden came with us all the way: nothing happened till we came up to Hillingdon-end - James George then turned round and struck me with a stick - I had said nothing to him, only just laid my finger on the top of his hat; it was a walking-stick; he struck me with the nob of it - Durden and Watts were then in the road; Durden stepped up into the path, and said, "What is the matter?" - George directly knocked him down, with his stick, into the kennel; Clarke stood up against the wall, and took the stick away from him, saying he would have no more of that; the prisoner then drew his knife out of his

pocket, and said he would rip his (Clarke's) g-ts out, or the first who came near him; they did not struggle for the stick: he drew it out of his hand. As soon as Durden recovered himself he got up; the prisoner struck at him with the knife, and cut him in the neck, across the back of his neck, and likewise cut his ear - Beddis came across from the opposite side of the way, and began to pitch into Joseph Durden with his fist - Durden then struck Beddis; they had a bit of a scuffle altogether, and the prisoner cut Joseph Durden in the thigh - Durden had only struck him once: that was after he knocked him down with a stick.

Q. Then they got into a fight? A. Yes; Durden, the prisoner, and Beddis - all three had a bit of a fight together - that was before he cut his thigh with the knife. The prisoner was in a great passion, and swung the knife about very much; none of them had drank much while I was at the house; I had not kicked George - I only touched his head.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. On your oath, did you not hit the man's hat, and knock it down over his eyes? A. I did not; I thought it no arm to put my finger on his hat; I did not do it to vex him - his wife was not there during any part of the scuffle; I did not throw her down, nor did any one else; I saw her on the ground - she was drunk; that was directly we came out of the house - I was not there when she was picked up. I swear she was not present during the scuffle.

Q. Did not Beddis, in the first instance, interfere to prevent you and your drunken companions ill-using the prisoner? A. No. I forget whether Beddis knocked him down; I do not think he did, but I will not swear it.

Q. Now, did not some of the party catch hold of this old man by the neck handkerchief, and almost strangle him? A. They did not; Durden did not push him against the wall; the prisoner was going along quietly when I touched his hat; his wife was not ill-used by any body in my presence - it was a moonlight night.

SAMUEL DURDEN . I had gone to this merry-making about eight o'clock - there was not much drinking: we left about half-past eleven o'clock, to go to Hillingdon; I was walking some distance before the witnesses; I heard a noise and squabble between them behind; I went back, and met George, with a knife in his hand - he threatened to cut me if I did not go out of the way; he then directly cut my brother Joseph - they both fell down together.

Q. Well, but did they close together first, or did your brother try to lay hold of him? A. No; after he cut my brother they both fell down - he cut him just down by the thigh; my brother was then standing; they both fell together; I saw nothing before that, nor afterwards. The prisoner's wife was not there; I had not spoken to him before he spoke to me - I got out of his way.

Q. You turned round, and went up to him - did he miss you and strike your brother by chance? A. Yes - he struck at me, I got out of the way - he missed me and struck my brother.

Q. Were you going up to secure him, or what? A. No; I did not know what was the matter; I had seen nothing but good will between them before; we were all good friends at the wedding, and came away good friends; my brother had never quarrelled with him; he said he would cut the first person who came up to him, and I went up.

Cross-examined. Q. Did he not appear to be defending himself against the persons who were attacking him? A. Not that I saw; I did not hear him say, "Keep off from me;" I saw nobody ill-use his wife. I saw nobody strike Beddis, nor did I see Beddis interfere.

Q. Had not your brother got the prisoner throttled up by the neck, against the brick wall? A. No. Beddis was walking along the path; he might be a yard before him; I did not see the prisoner's wife on the ground; as we came out of Rutter's house the party broke up altogether - she was tipsy - I saw nobody so tipsy as she was; I did not notice her walk out of the house; if she was laying in the parlour she might have got up before I got to her; I was nearly the last person who came out; I saw her standing in the road when I came out.

Q. Now, was she not knocked down by some one, and very indecently used? A. I heard of nothing of the kind. Clarke took the prisoner's stick from him, and returned it to him; I cannot tell who had it when I saw him with the knife; we were not going the nearest way home, but we generally go round that way.

WILLIAM CLARKE . I am a gardener. I went to Rutter's house about eight o'clock in the evening; there was some drinking: we broke up about half-past eleven o'clock- the prisoner and his wife were there; we had been very sociable, and all left together - the prisoner and I were coming home together; Larkin was behind us; I did not see him do any thing. George turned round with his stick in his hand, and struck Larkin; it was a common stick; Joseph Durden was in the middle of the turnpike-road - he stepped up to the foot-path, and George hit him on the side of the head, and knocked him into the kennel; I instantly went, and took the stick from the prisoner's hand; he said,"D-n his eyes; I will let the g-ts out of the first man that comes near me;" he was in a great passion: I went and put my back against the wall, and did not see what happened afterwards. I saw nothing done with a knife.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you come out of the house with the rest? A. Yes; we came out one after the other; I was on before, and saw nothing done to the prisoner's wife. I saw nobody strike Beddis.

Prisoner. Q. When you took the stick out of my hand you said, "Let us have fair play?" A. I said nothing of the kind.

JOSEPH WATTS . I was at this wedding, and came away with the rest; Joseph Durden and I were walking along the road together - I saw the prisoner striking Larkin, who had put his hand on his head; Joseph Durden stepped over, and said, "What is the matter?" George made no more to do, but knocked him down in the gutter - as soon as Durden recovered he got up, and stood in his own defence - he went up to him, and George struck him again, with a stick; Beddis (who was going along on the other side of the way) came over, and began pitching in to Joseph Durden; Durden struck at the prisoner, but hit the wall - George then began upon him with the stick - Clarke took the stick from him; George then drew out his knife, and swore he would let Clarke's g-ts out, for taking his stick away; Joseph Durden, Beddis, and the prisoner were all down together; there was a scuffle between them. -

George cut Durden on the ear, and then on the back of his neck - and as I was dragging Durden away the point of the knife caught my finger; we were then going home - George was first, and met Samuel Durden coming down to meet us; George said to him, "Get out of the way, or I will let your g-ts out;" he turned round, and cut Joseph Durden in his hand - that cut was not intended for Samuel - he turned round to Joseph, who was behind him, and cut him; the prisoner was not in liquor - I did not tell the Magistrate so; I said he was rather in liquor, and that Beddis was in liquor; Joseph Durden went to strike at him before the knife was drawn - he did not put himself in a fighting attitude - he had one hand in his pocket, and the other by the side of him - that was when Larkin was struck; they were all in good humour at the house, and no quarrelling at all.

Cross-examined. Q. What kind of a touch did Larkin give the prisoner's hat? A. He only put his hand on the crown - the prisoner had done nothing to provoke anybody; he was walking quietly with Clarke and talking - I did not see Joseph Durden knock Beddis down - they were all down together, all in a scramble. I do not know who threw Beddis down - the prisoner's wife was very tipsy; I did not see her till it was all over - I saw her on the ground when we came out of the house - I saw nobody push her down or ill-treat her - she said, Larkin did it; her person was very much exposed as she lay.

MICHAEL BEDDIS . I was at this wedding; as we came along I saw Larkin walking behind the prisoner, trying to trip his heels up - I went across and said they were a set of scoundrels, to try to interrupt the man, as he was quite peaceable, and interrupted no one; they said nothing to him, but tried to trip his heels up.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you see the prisoner's wife on the ground? A. Yes; Larkin and Watts threw her down; her person was very indecently exposed by them; they threw her clothes up - the prisoner had not said a word to them. When I went to interfere for the prisoner, they began to cry out, "Oh!" I was knocked down twice and received a number of blows. Joseph Durden had got him pushed up against the wall before he cut him - he had him twice against the wall before he struck him with the stick - I saw nothing of the knife; they pushed him twice against the wall before he used the stick - and I suppose, he received ten or a dozen blows - my daughters fetched me away before the stick was taken from him.

Mr. DANIEL MACNAMARA . I am a surgeon, and live at Uxbridge - my partner dressed Durden's wound on the night this happened - I saw him next day; there was a very superficial wound on the back of his neck; it extended to the ear - it all appeared one wound - he had another wound on the outer part of his left hand; it was very superficial; merely a wound in the integuments - both wounds had certainly been done by a sharp instrument.


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-64
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1652. JAMES SOUTHGATE was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of August , at Tottenham , 2 cows, value 10l. , the property of Thomas Mallett .

THOMAS MALLETT . I live at Tottenham. On Friday, the 31st of August, I lost two cows from the marsh at Tottenham - I had milked them in the marsh that morning; I saw them again at Colchester, on the next Sunday, in possession of the prisoner, who was driving them down at Colchester - I did not know him before - I was on horseback; I collared him, and told him they were my property, and he said I knew all about it - I gave him in charge - he was committed to prison by the Mayor of Colchester, and I got my cows back; I am sure they are mine - I have had them two years; they are worth 10l.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Is there any body but yourself who saw them in his possession? A. Yes, the officer. I traced him down the road to Colchester, from Ilford - they had noticed him at some gates, and some they had not.

Q. Did he not want you to go with him to a house, where he said he was directed to drive them? A. No; he said nothing of the kind to me; he told me nothing about Dyer - I had no conversation with him, but what I have stated - he said something about Dyer before the Magistrate.

COURT. Q. How did you trace him to Ilford? A. I inquired at Chingford-gate, and from what I heard there, I went on.

JOHN BODGER . I am a labouring man, and live at Edmonton. On the 31st of August, between one and two o'clock in the day, I was in Tottenham-marsh, and saw the prisoner driving the two cows out of the marsh - they were two pole cows - one red and one white, with a bald face - the other was a blue spotted one - I have known the prisoner these nineteen years - he has been a farmer, and lives at Tottenham - I am sure he is the person - he drove them along the bank of the river, towards Chingford - I did not know whose they were; I said,"How are you, Mr. Southgate;" he made no answer that I could hear; I saw the cows again on this day week, in the marsh - I went and picked them out myself, by order of the Magistrate, from among ten or twenty others, and drove them up to Mr. Mallett; they were the same as I had seen the prisoner drive away.

Cross-examined. Q. This was broad daylight? A. Yes; there was nobody else there. I did not suspect him - the river bank is a public path for foot passengers.

MR. MALLETT. I saw the cows which Bodger picked out of the marsh on this day week - they are what I lost, and what I found the prisoner with at Colchester.

Prisoner's Defence. I told Mr. Bright the publican where I was going with them - he acknowledged that at Colchester, and the prosecutor knows it.

MR. MALLETT. I never heard him say where he was going to drive them. Bright said he said he was going seven miles below Colchester with them.

One witness gave the prisoner a good character, and stated him to have been in distressed circumstances.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 58.

Recommended to mercy by the Jury, believing it to be his first offence, and that he might have been driven to it by distress .

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Reference Numbert18270913-65

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1653. JAMES DAVIES was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Peter Wood , on the 16th of September , at St. Anne, Westminster , and

stealing 1 watch-case, value 2s., and 1 watch-key, value 8s. , the goods of the said Peter Wood .

PETER WOOD . I am a watch-maker , and live in Princes-street, Leicester-square , in the parish of St. Anne, Westminster. On Sunday evening, the 16th of September, I left the house about a quarter before six o'clock, and left nobody there - the shop was shut - I locked the street-door myself - the whole house is mine - I am the landlord. I returned about twenty minutes after seven o'clock with my wife. I applied the key of the street-door, to unlock it, and found it made no impression on the lock. I instantly tried the handle of the latch, and pushed the door open - it was shut close too and latched, but not then locked. I did not examine the lock at that moment. I heard a noise in the house, apparently at the foot of the stairs, and immediately exclaimed "Good God, there are thieves in the house!" I called out Thieves! and at that instant two men rushed out past me. I made a blow at one of them with my umbrella, and got hold of him, but he got away - they both ran away. I pursued them both down Princes-street, calling Stop thieves! but returned immediately, got a light, and observed that the door leading to the parlour at the foot of the stairs, and which leads into the shop, had been burst open. I found the desk in the shop in confusion - I had left it shut but not locked. I missed a metal watch case out of the window, and a gold key. I have seen the watch-case since. I cannot speak to the men.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Where is your private residence? A. My family reside in Rup ert-street; I have my meals there, but I sleep at the shop in Princes-street.

SALLY WOOD . I am the prosecutor's wife. I went out with him on Sunday night, and came home with him. I saw him try the door - he opened it, and called Thieves! and almost instantly two men came rushing out of the house; the first who rushed out, attempted to strike Mr. Wood with a crow-bar, but I put up my hand, and held the bar tight; he tried to wrench it out of my hand, but I held it so fast he could not get it - he left it in my hand, and got away. Another came out, and I tried to catch hold of him. I knocked off his hat in trying to get hold of him - I picked it up, and in it was a large bag; the constable has got the hat and crow-bar. I cannot say whether the prisoner is either of those persons - he is like the second man - he is not the one who made the blow.

Cross-examined. Q. How soon after this did you see the prisoner at the watch-house? A. It might be about an hour or an hour and a quarter, for I went home to recover myself from the fright. When he was shown to me, among others, I said "They have none of them their hats on, and I cannot say without;" all their hats were then put on, and I could not swear to the prisoner.

EDWARD SMITH . I live at No. 3, Little Argyle-street, Between seven and eight o'clock on Sunday evening last, I was near the prosecutor's shop - I saw him and his wife go to the shop door. I was about ten yards from them - I heard a cry of Stop thieves! saw a scuffle at the door, and instantly saw the prisoner bolt from the door and run down Princes-street. I pursued him, came up to him very soon, and caught hold of him, but I could not hold him - he ran swifily; he continued to run down Princes-street. I followed him, calling Stop thief! till he came into Panton-street - he turned into Panton-street; a person there attempted to sieze him, but they both fell, and I instantly secured the prisoner. I had not lost sight of him for an instant from the time I saw him bolt from the door, till I took him - he had no hat on. I brought him back into Princes-street - a watchman came up, and I gave him in charge.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you not say at the watch-house that you would not swear to the prisoner's person? A. I did not; I said I would swear he was the person who escaped from the house. I was not three yards behind him when he turned into Panton-street; I did not lose sight of him in turning the corner.

MARY LAMPETT . I live at No. 4, Three Fox-court, Long-lane, Smithfield, and am married. On Sunday last, between seven and eight o'clock, I was in Princes-street - I heard the cry of Stop thief! I immediately turned round, and got into the road, out of the way. I saw the prisoner as he passed me - he crossed the road as I stood in the middle of the road; he had no hat on; I saw him put his hand into his waistcoat pocket, puil something out, and drop it. I immediately ran and picked it up - it was the watch-case; as soon as I stooped to pick it up, Alcock, the watchman, came up and caught hold of me; I gave itto him.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you ever seen the prisoner before? A. No; I was certainly rather frightened; but I took particular notice of him, and can swear to him; I was not so much frightened when in the middle of the road as before, as I thought I was then out of the way of the mob; he passed me very quick, but I saw him coming all the way down the pavement.

COURT. Q. Did you see what became of him after he dropped the case? A. I saw no more of him till he got to the watch-house, as I was picking up the case.

WILLIAM ALCOCK . I am a patrol of St. James'. On Sunday last, between twenty and twenty-five minutes after seven o'clock in the evening, I was on duty in Coventry-street, and heard a cry of Stop thief! I crossed over into Princes-street; and some way down Princes-street I saw a great crowd assembled; I got into the centre of it, and heard people say that woman had a watch; I went and demanded it from her, but she would not then give it me; I desired the people to bring her to the watch-house. I then turned from that woman to the prisoner, who was in Mr. Smith's custody; he gave him to me, and told me to take particular care of his hands, for he was dropping something; the prisoner could hear that; I then brought him along Coventry-street; on the way to the watch-house he dropped a key, which I picked up; I took him along Titchbourn-street, into the Horse Shoe public-house, searched him there, and found another key in his coat-pocket; also a candle, a silk handkerchief, two half-crowns, and 6d.; and as I was going along, there was as many as nineteen keys given me by different people, who kept picking them up; the woman gave me the watch-case in the public-house, where I searched the prisoner - I then brought him to the watch-house, and gave him in charge; he said the key I found in his pocket was the key of his own street door; the Magistrate told me to give it to an officer; here is the key I picked up in the street; I call it a skeleton key - I gave up the nineteen keys at the office - I cannot say they dropped from him.

Cross-examined. Q. Are the persons here who gave

you those keys? A. No; the one found in his pocket was a common one.

EDWARD BOOTHMAM . I am a constable of St. James, Westminster. I received charge of the prisoner on Sunday evening last, with a number of pick lock keys, which I produce - a crow-bar was given to me afterwards, also a hat and bag from Mr. Laing, whom Mrs. Wood took me to- I tried the crow-bar, and found it exactly corresponds with the marks on Mr. Wood's inner door; one of the keys opens his street door.

MRS. WOOD. I delivered the hat, bag, and crow-bar to Mr. Laing - that is the hat and bag I can swear; the hat was put on him at the watch-house, but the lining was out all but one stitch.

E. BOOTHMAN . The hat fitted him, in my opinion - he pulled it over his face, and said it would not; but the lining was then torn out - part of the lock of the inner door was wrenched off.

MR. WOOD. This watch-case is mine, and had been in my possession for the last two or three years. I left it hanging on a watch-house in the window on the Saturday evening - it is worth 2s.; it was not attached to a watch - the key was worth 8s.; that has not been found.

Cross-examined. Q. This is more than a watch-case? A. It is a case, and there is a dial and glass in it, but there are no works.

Prisoner's Defence. I was in an ale-house in Leicester-fields. I had occasion to go to Chelsea; I came through Sidney's-alley; and, being rather late, ran violently down the street; another man ran in the same direction - I did not see whether he was without a hat - as I turned into Panton-street, I ran into the arms of a man, and we both went down; Mr. Smith came up in eight or ten minutes, and took me by the collar. I heard a cry of Stop thief! and they took me to the watch-house.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 24.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-66

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1654. THOMAS KNIGHT was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of September , at St. James, Clerkenwell , 1 cloak, value 5l.; 2 coats, value 2l.; 6 handkerchiefs, value 6s.; 12 shirts, value 6l.; 5 pairs of trousers, value 2l.; 8 pairs of stockings, value 8s.; 3 jackets, value 10s.; four books, value 4s.; 1 portfolio, value 1s., and 1 trunk, value 10s., the goods of John Henry Haase , in the dwelling-house of William Adkins .

JAMES HENRY HAASE . I lodge at the George and Vulture tavern. I know the prisoner - he is the driver of a hackey-coach . On the 10th of September, about two o'clock in the day, I took his coach at the Custom-house, put my trunk into it, and he drove me to No. 18. Ann-street, Pentonville , where I had taken lodgings - he and I lifted the trunk out together, and brought it into the passage of the house - as we lifted it out, he observed that it was very heavy; and asked if it was full of doubloons (I am a foreigner) - I smiled, and said Yes; the trunk was left in the passage; and I then hired his coach to carry me to the Royal Exchange, where I had to meet a friend. I got to the Royal Exchange about three o'clock; he set me down there; I paid him, and discharged him; he had stopped and spoken to a man near Islington, in the middle of the street. I do not know what he said to him. I went to my lodgings about eight o'clock that night, and my trunk was gone - it contained a Spanish cloak; two coats, three jackets, about a dozen shirts, half a dozen pairs of trousers, some handkerchiefs, and other things - they were worth 15l. at least, beside my papers - I have found none of them since.

ELEANOR ADKINS . I am the wife of William Adkins ; we live at No. 18, Ann-street, Pentonville, in the parish of St. James, Clerkenwell; the prosecutor engaged our lodgings - he came to our house on Monday, the 10th of September, in a hackney-coach, and brought his trunk and two pairs of boots - the prisoner drove the coach. I am certain he is the man; it was No. 117; I had never seen him before - he came between two and three o'clock; the prosecutor and prisoner lifted the trunk into the passage - I heard the prisoner say it was very heavy, and ask if it was doubloons; the prosecutor smiled, and said Yes; the prosecutor went away in the coach, and in about three-quarters of an hour, the prisoner came with the same coach, and demanded the trunk; he said the gentleman was very sorry, and it was wrong altogether; that it was to have gone to Leicester-fields; and said, the gentleman had given him half of a pound to satisfy me for the lodging; he offered me half-asovereign - my demand was 5s. I could not give him change, and he gave me 5s. in silver. I walked into my room and left my little boy there, while he took the trunk out - it was in the passage when he came; I did not see him take it away - I saw nobody with the prisoner, and cannot say whether any body was with him or not; the prosecutor came at eight o'clock to take possession of his lodging, but went away in five minutes.

HENRY ADKINS . I am turned fourteen years old. I was with my mother when the prisoner came on the 10th of September for the trunk - I saw him give her 5s.; she went into the parlour; a man outside the door called "Trunk, trunk!" twice; the prisoner then went to the door which was open, and called a man to come and help him out with the trunk - it was a pale faced looking man; he said,"Porter, come and help me with this;" he helped him out with the trunk, and put it into the coach - they both got on the coach-box and drove off.

Prisoner. Q. Did you hear me call him porter? A. Yes; he was dressed in a black coat.

SARAH ADKINS . I am the daughter of Mr. Adkins. I was there when the prosecutor brought the trunk in the morning - the prisoner was the coachman; I saw him come there again in the afternoon - I did not hear what passed - I merely looked out at the kitchen door, and saw that it was the same man; I saw the trunk go away - the coachman took it out of the passage; I saw nobody else - I did not see it put into the coach; the coach was No. 117. - my mother called me (when the gentleman himself came) to take the number, as her eye-sight was bad. I saw the same number on it the second time.

JOSEPH CADBY . I am constable of St. James, Clerkenwell. I apprehended the prisoner on Wednesday, the 12th of September; his master sent for him to me - I told him what I took him for; he said he took the gentleman to Pentonville with the trunk, and left it at No. 18, Ann-street; then took the gentleman to the Exchange, and as he turned into Cheapside rank, after setting the gentleman down, he was hailed by two men, who told him to drive to Pentonville - that they stopped him on the hill, and one who was an Englishman, got out, leaving the other in the coach - that he returned in about twenty minutes, and told

him to go to No. 18, Ann-street, and take the trunk from there to Leicester-fields, and gave him half-a-sovereign to pay the demand - the man who was left in the coach was a foreigner; that he paid the woman of the house 5s., and drove to Leicester-fields, with the trunk and the foreigner in the coach - that the other man hailed the coach then, and told him to stop - he had been waiting some time; that he came back, and said to the other man in the coach, that it was all right, and they took the trunk away - he saw no more of them. On the Friday following, the Magistrate asked him where he lodged; he said he could not tell the number, but it was nearly opposite a court in Archer-street. I found the house, No. 42, by his description - he said it was a front room, on the first floor. I went there with Colton - I found no part of the property; but there were sixteen common keys, and a dark lantern, which I brought away - I told him afterwards we had been there, and he admitted they were his lodgings.

WILLIAM COLTON . I am a constable. I went with Cadby, by the Magistrate's order, to search the lodgings.

JAMES HENRY HAASE . I directed nobody to go to the house for my trunk - I went alone in the coach; the man he spoke to was a common man, and I believe he had a velveteen jacket on; I went to the lodgings at eight o'clock, but did not stay, as I suspected the landlady.

Prisoner's Defence. That lantern I use in the stable - the keys were in the room when I went there; several foreign gentlemen were round the prosecutor when he ordered me to drive to Ann-street; I drove him back to the Exchange; in turning into the rank, two gentlemen ordered me to Pentonville-hill - one of them got out there, and was gone twenty minutes; he returned, and gave me half-a-sovereign to pay what was demanded where I had taken the gentleman to; I knocked at the door, and let the person out; he went to the door and demanded his trunk, and I asked the landlady for the change; all I could hear him say was, "My trunk - my trunk;" he said to me, "Leicester-fields," and when I got to Leicester-fields, the other man told me to stop; he brought a porter, took the trunk away, and paid me; on the following morning when I came to the yard I heard of this.

HENRY ADKINS . The man said, "Tronk, tronk;" speaking like a foreigner.

ELEANOR ADKINS . My reason for having the number of the coach taken was, because the gentleman was a foreigner, and I had no reference, and thought I might find where he had come from.

GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 23.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-67
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty
SentenceNo Punishment > sentence respited

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1655. THOMAS DOYLE was indicted for stealing, on the 11th of August , 2 boxes, value 30s.; 22 sovereigns, 20 half-sovereigns, and 15 shillings , the property of Charles Edmonds , his master .

The prisoner pleaded. GUILTY. Aged 14.

Judgment Respited .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-68
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty

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1656. MICHAEL ARTHUR was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of August , 11 shirts, value 30s. , the goods of Thomas Langford Brooke .

The prisoner pleaded. GUILTY. Aged 12.

Confined Two Months .

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Reference Numbert18270913-69

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1657. MICHAEL CARNEY was indicted for stealing, on the 4th of August , 3 sixpences , the monies of Nathaniel Clarke .

NATHANIEL CLARKE . I keep a ham and beef-shop , in St. John's-lane . On the 4th of August, I left my shop about twenty minutes before eleven o'clock, and within a minute I heard a scuffle; I returned instantly, and saw the officer with the prisoner, behind my counter. I had looked into the till just before I went out; there were three sixpences in the front part of it, and two shillings in the back; I said I had lost four sixpences, I believed, but I was in an error; I had had five sixpences in the till, but had sent my servant out with two, and therefore there were but three.

GEORGE WADDINGTON . I am an officer. I saw the prisoner about ten o'clock on the 4th of August, in Peter's-lane, watching a butcher's shop window; there was another lad with him; they went up St. John's-lane, and the other stood outside while the prisoner went into this shop, and round the counter - he took out the till, and put something into his pocket, but I could not see what; I ran in, and took three sixpences out of his waistcoat pocket, into which I had seen him put something. Mr. Clarke had gone out of the shop just as the prisoner went in.

Prisoner's Defence. The money was my own - I went in to buy some pudding.

JOHN ROBINSON . I am an officer. I saw the prisoner in custody in the shop, and saw Waddington take some money from him.

GUILTY . Aged 15.

Transported for Seven Years .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-70

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1658. CHARLES CHARLTON was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of August , 4 bunches of onions, value 1s. 2d. , the goods of William Fluck .

WILLIAM FLUCK . I am a salesman of Covent-garden-market . On the 20th of August I lost fourteen bunches of onions, after I went home at eight o'clock - I had tied them in the baskets, and the baskets were tied down with ropes and mats; I went the next morning, at a quarter before four o'clock, and found the ropes had been cut, the mats taken off, and fourteen bunches of onions were missing. I know nothing of the prisoner. Four bunches were brought to Bow-street, which I am quite sure are mine.

JOHN CRIPPS . I am a salesman. I was coming through the market at a quarter before eleven o'clock at night, on the 19th of August, and saw the prisoner and another taking onions out of Fluck's basket, at the next stand but one to mine; the prisoner went away with them - I followed him, and called the watchman; I collared him.

GUILTY . Aged 14.

Confined One Month .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-71
VerdictsNot Guilty > fault

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1659. GEORGE WILLIAM FLINTHAM was indicted for stealing, on the 2d of August , 2 watch-seals, value 10s. , the goods of Barry Edward O'Meara ; and CHARLES FLINTHAM was indicted for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing it to have been stolen .

The property having been conveyed over to trustees for the sole benefit of Lady Theodosia Beauchamp Leigh , and the prosecutor having no controul over it, the prisoners were


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-72
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation
SentenceMiscellaneous > fine

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1660. WILLIAM GRAY was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of July , 1 ham, value 10s. , the goods of Joseph Chadwick .

JOSEPH CHADWICK . I keep an eating-house in Goswell-street . On the 17th of July this ham laid in my window, when I went out to market at nine o'clock, and when I came home, about half-past ten, it was gone - I saw it again before eleven.

JAMES LEAKY . Between nine and ten o'clock I was going from breakfast, and at the corner of the street, I saw the prisoner coming from towards the shop, with the ham under his arm; I mentioned it to my master, who told me to go to the shop, and ask if they had lost a ham; the mistress said they had. I then ran after the prisoner, and took him - he dropped the ham; I took it up, and another young man took him. I did not see him come out of the shop - he was about thirty yards from it.

BARTHOLOMEW GERAHGBY . I saw the prisoner pursued by Leaky - he dropped the ham, and sprung over his arms; he ran against me, and I caught him.

JOHN DAVIS . I am an officer, and took the prisoner.

Prisoner's Defence. A young man gave me the ham to carry to Seward-street, and said he would give me 3d.; I had got about half way - these two men came up; I was frightened and dropped it, I ran to get from the mob.

COURT to JAMES LEAKY . Q. When you first saw him was he in the same street as the prosecutor's shop is in? A. No; there was no one near him: he said he was employed by a young man.

Two witnesses gave the prisoner a good character, one of whom promised to employ him.

GUILTY. Aged 18.

Recommended to Mercy . - Fined 1s. and Discharged.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-73
VerdictNot Guilty

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1661. DAVID MANSFIELD was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of August , 2 travelling cases, value 3l. 10s. , the goods of William Henry Smith and Henry Edward Smith .

WILLIAM HENRY SMITH . I am in partnership with my brother. Henry Edward Smith - we are stationers , and live at No. 192, Strand . I lost two travelling cases from off the counter in the shop, on the 29th of August; Kendrick came in and gave me some information.

JOHN BAKER KENDRICK . On the 29th of August, about nine o'clock in the morning, I was going to this shop, and saw a person coming out with two cases, not in paper - I went in, and asked if they had sold them - they said No; I then went on to the New Inn, and saw the person who took them give them to the prisoner, who was secured - the other got away.


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-74

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1662. SAMUEL GLADMAN was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of August , 1 nutmeg-grater, value 5s.; 1 watch key, value 6d.; 2 dice, value 1s.; 1 piece of cadran glue, value 6d.; 25 pieces of silver coin, value 10s.; 2 sovereigns, and 2 half-sovereigns , the property of Henry Saint John .

MR. HENRY SAINT JOHN . I live at Hornsey. I know nothing of the prisoner. I have a small box, which I know to be mine; it had been kept in the side-board drawer in my dining-room - it contained the articles stated; I cannot say when I had seen them safe; I was in the habit of seeing the box every day, but had not opened it to see the contents; the drawer was locked every night. On the 13th of August, when I came home, I heard of the robbery; I opened the drawer, and missed the articles. I cannot say for a certainty when I had seen them, but I had opened the box almost every day.

HANNAH FODEN . I was in the service of Mr. Saint John on the 13th of August; I know this box. I went into the parlour about half-past twelve o'clock, and saw the prisoner there, with his hand in the side-board, where the box was kept; he was a stranger; he ran across the room, and jumped out of the window; I jumped out, and followed him down the lane - he was caught, without my losing sight of him - I am certain of him.

Prisoner. Q. Did you not say to me, "There goes the man," and ask me to run after him? A. No, I did not.

RICHARD MAYON . I am a butcher, and live at Hornsey. I heard Foden and a man cry Stop thief! I ran out, and stopped the prisoner - we took him back to the house; the constable found some property on him, but not the property in question. I then went and searched the place where the prisoner was stopped, and found twenty-five pieces of silver coin English and foreign, and those other articles; this was an hourand a half or two hours after he was taken; he struggled very much when I took him, and said, "Don't meddle with me - it is only a bit of a lark." I went to take him, and he threw up his arms, and said, "D - n your eyes" - and then, I think, he threw the property into the ditch, where I afterwards found it. I gave it to the constable.

WILLIAM ELDER . I am the constable. I took the prisoner, and received these articles from Mayon - I did not see him find them.

MR. HENRY SAINT JOHN . I have no doubt whatever of these being mine; here are some Roman and some old English coins.

Prisoner's Defence. I was passing down this lane - this young woman came out of another lane, and said to me,"There goes the man - Stop that thief!" I ran, and then this witness came and took hold of me, and I said there was a man running down the lane, whom I was pursuing; the young woman then came and said I was the thief.

RICHARD MAYON re-examined. He did not say he was pursuing another person; he said, "Don't meddle with me - it is only a lark."

GUILTY . Aged 27.

Transported for Seven Years .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-75

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1663. JOHN TINGEY was indicted for stealing, on the 22d of August , 119 lbs. of sugar, value 3l. 10s. , the goods of John Travers and Joseph Travers .

SECOND COUNT, calling it the property of Richard Bailey and Thomas Bailey .

THOMAS BAILEY . I am a carman , and am in partnership with my father, Richard Bailey . I had two hogahead of sugar from the West India Docks, to deliver to Mr.

Salmon, of Bell-alley, Coleman-street; it was the property of Messrs. John and Joseph Travers ; the prisoner was sent for them, and he received them at the docks; he left there at a quarter-past ten o'clock on the morning of the 22d of August. I did not see him going - I heard from Mr. Salmon, that there was 119lbs. of sugar short of weight - I spoke to the prisoner about it, and he said he had delivered them as he received them; he had been in our employ twelve or fifteen months; he might have got to Mr. Salmon's about twelve o'clock.

THOMAS HOLMES . I am foreman at the West India Docks. On the 22d of August I delivered two hogsheads of sugar to the prisoner, as Mr. Bailey's carman. I do not know where he was to take them; they were Nos. 14 and 15; one weighed 1604lbs., and the other 1411lbs.

JOHN KELLY . I am a labourer in the West India Docks. I recollect weighing the sugar for Mr. Holmes - I called the weight over, and he took it down.

WILLIAM BRIDGES . I am a carman, in the employ of Mr. Stubbs - I was going up Shoreditch, about twenty minutes before one o'clock, and met Mr. Bailey's cart coming towards the City.

ROBERT BAXTER . I am a horse-keeper. I saw the prisoner coming through Shoreditch, about twenty minutes before one o'clock; that was not the way from the docks to Mr. Salmon's.

ROBERT SALMON . I expected this sugar, and it came to me about one o'clock, on the 22d of August; the weight of one hogshead was 1304lbs.; he brought a cart note, which certified the weight of it to be 1411lbs.; the other hogshead which was weighed first was right, and when we were going to weigh the second, the prisoner said, "It is not usual to weigh the second hogshead; you won't weigh that;" I said Yes, I should - I then asked him if he weighed it at the docks; he said No - I said,"You see what the weight of it is;" he said Yes, and counted the weights himself.

JAMES BROWN . I am in the employ of Mr. Salmon. The prisoner brought the two hogshead to the house on the 22d of August; one of them was 107lbs. lighter than the note mentioned; the prisoner did not wish to have the two hogshead weighed; but they were; the one which was too light came out of the cart first, and then the heavy one; the prisoner wished to roll the heavy one into the house first, which was done; it was weighed, and was right; he then said, it was not usual to weigh the second hogshead, but it was done; sugar could be taken from it by raising the iron from the drawing-hole.

Prisoner's Defence. I know nothing about it.

GUILTY . Aged 19.

Transported for Seven Years .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-76
VerdictNot Guilty

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1664. JOHN WEBB and THOMAS MASON were indicted for stealing, on the 13th of August , two kettles, value 3s. 6d. , the goods of John Lloyd .

JOHN LLOYD . I am a milkman , and live in Bloomsbury-court, Holborn. On the 13th of August I missed some kettles - I cannot say when they were taken; the two prisoners are dustmen, and had been at my house that day - I looked after them, and found them in the street - I asked what they had done with the kettles they took from Bloomsbury-court; one of them said, they took but one, and that they had returned.

CAROLINE EVANS . I am servant to Mr. Lloyd. I remember these dustmen coming to the house - I did not see them come in - I had seen the two kettles about an hour before I saw the prisoners there, and when they were gone I missed them - I went after them to Silver-street, and asked them for the kettles; they were both together, and they said they had only taken one kettle, which they gave me.

THOMAS KEEDY . I am a tin-plate worker. On the 13th of August I saw the prisoners at the prosecutor's - I saw one of them carrying a basket of dust on his head, and a kettle was on the top of it. I cannot say which it was.

Prisoner WEBB. He said at the office, that he saw it through a blind of the window, which was impossible. Witness. I was sitting at my dinner, but I saw it distinctly - the blinds are thin wire gauze.

JOSEPH CARTER . I took up the two prisoners: the other kettle has not been found; they said they had not another, but if I would go to where they shot the dust, I might look it over - I went, but there was no kettle - Webb said, if there was another they would deliver it up.

CAROLINE EVANS . This kettle was on the window-seat in the kitchen, and the other was on the fire place; they had not been used a long time.


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-77
SentenceCorporal > whipping

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1665. DAVID DAVIES was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of August , 1 coat, value 2s., and 20 small pieces of printed cotton, value 6d. , the goods of Thomas Smith .

THOMAS SMITH . I am a green-grocer , and live in Crane-court, St. James . On the 13th of August, a greatcoat and some patch-work were taken from my kitchen, before I got up in the morning - I went to the watch-house, where I saw it.(Property produced and sworn to.)

CHARLES WOOD . I am a carpenter. I took the prisoner with this coat under his arm, and the patch-work tied round him, within three doors of Mr. Smith's, from whose house I saw him come; he said if we would let him go, he would pay for it on the Saturday night.

EDWARD BOOTHMAN . I received the prisoner at the watch-house; he said he did it from want to buy himself some victuals.

Prisoner's Defence. I was in want of something to eat.

GUILTY . Aged 14.

Whipped and Discharged.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-78

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1666. JOSHUA GEES was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of August 1 pewter pot, value 1s., the goods of Elizabeth Allison ; and 1 pewter pot, value 1s., the goods of Charles Green ; and 1 pewter pot, value 1s. , the goods of Horatio Nathaniel Phillips .

JEREMIAH TOMKINS . I am servant to Mrs. Elizabeth Allison , who keeps the Duke of Clarence public-house, Regent's-park . This quart pot is hers; we lose a great many, but had not missed this one.

CHARLES GREEN . I keep a tavern by the Regent's-park - I know this pot, which is cut in pieces; it is mine.

HORATIO NATHANIEL PHILLIPS . I keep the Jew's Harp public-house ; this pot is mine. I lose a great many pots.

RICHARD SMITH . I am a constable of the Regent's-park. On the 12th of August I saw the prisoner going up the hedge side, near the public-house: his waistcoat bulged out, and his hat was loose on his head. I went up to him, and he appeared to be picking thistles; I said,"What have you got?" he said Nothing; I said, "I will see what you have got;" he said, "D - n you, you shall not;" I then caught hold of him, and one of the pots fell from his hrt - he said if he could not get from me, he had something which would injure me - he then pulled out a large knife, and cut his handkerchief, which I had hold off, and cut me across the knuckles - he then got away. I caught him by the coat, which tore; a young man then came up, and he was secured - before I took him, he said he would fight till he died, for if he was taken he knew his doom - when he was taken he threw two pots over the hedge, and the knife after them.

WILLIAM COLE . I came up, and saw the prisoner throw these two pots from him; they were taken up on the grass.

Prisoner's Defence. I am a carpenter, and have a sick wife, and five children. I throw myself on the mercy of the Court.

GUILTY . Aged 55.

Transported for Seven Years .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-79
VerdictsGuilty; Guilty
SentencesTransportation; Imprisonment

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1667. CHARLES PALMER was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of September , 1 tea-set of china, value 12s., and 40 plates, value 9s. , the goods of Charles Turner ; and GEORGE STEVENS was indicted for feloniously receiving the same, knowing them to be stolen .

CHARLES TURNER . I keep a china-warehouse in Oxford-street - Palmer was my servant . On the morning of the 1st of September I went down about six o'clock - the shop was not then open, but it should have been. I went to the yard door, and heard the sound of china in the shop. I looked, and saw Palmer take the china down, sound it, and put it on the floor - there were twelve cups and saucers, a tea-pot, two plates, and two basins; he then went and put some of it down near the door; he then came and took the rest - he opened the street door, and beckoned some one - Stevens came in with a basket, and they put the articles in it; they went into the other shop, but what they did there I do not know; they then went to the door, and Palmer said to Stevens, "Keep quite on this side of the way, and no one will say any thing to you." I then went out and took Stevens to the watch-house - he said Palmer had employed him - and he was to have 1s. to carry them to Hanway-yard. I took him to the watch-house - we then came back and took Palmer.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Stevens you had never seen before? A. No, not to my knowledge. I hear he bears a very good character; I was at the yard door when I heard the conversation; about six yards from Palmer. I heard the words distinctly "Keep quite on this side the way; and no one will have any suspicion of you;" this was not said in a very low tone. I believe Stevens is a painter and glazier.

STEVENS' Defence. I was employed by Palmer.

PALMER - GUILTY . Aged 18.

Transported for Seven Years .


Confined Six Months .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-80

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1668. JOHN TOMKINS , was indicted for stealing, on the 3d of September , 1 shawl, value 6s. , the goods of Richard Taylor .

JEREMIAH SPRING . I am in the employ of Richard Taylor , a linen-draper , of Greek-street, Soho . On the 3d of September, about eight o'clock in the evening, I saw this shawl snatched down from inside the shop. I ran out, and saw Mr. Edwards run after the prisoner - it might have been reached from outside the door - it was pinned up, and it must have been a good jerk to get it down.

ERNEST EDWARDS . I am shopman to the prosecutor. I saw the shawl pulled down, ran out, and saw the prisoner with it on his person - I secured him within three or four doors of the house, in about half a minute.(Property produced and sworn to.)

Prisoner's Defence. A person threw the shawl down, and I took it up.

GUILTY . Aged 23.

Confined Three Months .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-81

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1669. SAMUEL HARMER was indicted for stealing' on the 31st of July , 1 hat, value 10s., the goods of Michael William Cosgrove from his person .

MICHAEL WILLIAM COSGROVE . On the 31st of July, between five and six o'clock, I was at a public-house called the Chequers - the prisoner, and about six others, were there - they began larking - the prisoner came and took my hat off, and got away. I thought at first it was only a lark - but the others used me very ill; they got an old hat and knocked it on my head, and prevented my getting out for some time - when I got out I found an officer, and told him.

JOSEPH PRICE. The prosecutor told me what had happened, and described the prisoner. I knew him, and went to look for him, but he kept out of the way till the 11th of August - the prosecutor was quite sober.

Prisoner's Defence. He was quite in liquor, and fell off the form - he awoke, and accused some other person of taking his hat - he then said it was me, and he would give charge of me. I said if he did not give charge of me directly I must go in about an hour, which I did.

GUILTY . Aged 25.

Confined Four Months .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-82
VerdictNot Guilty

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1670. CHARLES THOMAS was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of July, 1 piece of stone, value 2s. , the goods of some person, whose name is unknown.

RICHARD SMITH . I am a constable of the Regent's-park. On the 24th of July, between eleven and twelve o'clock at night, I saw the prisoner coming along the road, with this piece of stone on his back; he said he was going home, and had bought it of a man in the road; the officer came up, and I assisted in taking him to the watch-house - he then said he bought it of a man in Tottenham-court-road.

Cross-examined by MR. BARRY. Q. Do not you know he was engaged in building? A. Yes; I believe he has two little houses, and is getting up another - he first said he bought it of a man on the road, and then he said he bought it at Battle-bridge, of a man of the name of Jones, who lived at No. 33, Covent-garden. I believe Mr. Sellers went there, and said he could find no such person a stone-mason - he found a man of the name of Jones, who

keeps a cook's-shop - we have not advertised the stone - I have not been to the prisoner's house.


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-83

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1671. WILLIAM ROSE was indicted for stealing, on the 9th of June , 1 pair of breeches, value 4s., and 1 shirt, value 2s. , the goods of John Provis .

JOHN PROVIS. I am a labourer , and was working at Mr. Hone's, at Edgware . On the 9th of June I left my breeches and shirt in a bundle in the stable, at four o'clock in the morning - the prisoner came home in the middle of the day, and I came home in the evening, about nine o'clock- I went to sleep in the hay-loft, and my bundle was missing - the prisoner was then gone. On the 22d of July I met him with my breeches and shirt on.

WILLIAM WHITTINGHAM. I am an officer. I took the prisoner with the breeches and shirt on - he said he did it through poverty.(Property produced and sworn to.)

GUILTY . Aged 18.

Confined Fourteen Days .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-84

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1672. WILLIAM BATTEY was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of July , 1 handkerchief, value 2s., the goods of George Pocock , from his person .

GEORGE POCOCK. I was going across Clements'-inn on the 27th of July, a little before ten o'clock in the evening; I felt something at my pocket - I turned and saw the prisoner dropping this handkerchief from him - it was about half way between his hand and the ground when I saw it. I took hold of him, and had a great difficulty in taking him - in going down Pickett-street, I met a person, who tried to assist me - the prisoner struck at him, and he retreated; the prisoner then struck me violently, and made my nose bleed; he got from me for a moment, but was taken at the coach-stand, and the watchman came up.

WILLIAM NESBITT . I am a constable. I assisted in taking the prisoner from a tobacconist's-shop, where the prosecutor had taken him - he struggled very much.

Prisoner's Defence. The prosecutor turned round, and said I had taken his handkerchief. I said I was not there - he then struck me with his umbrella, and he first said there was a mark on the handkerchief, but there was not - there was a boy five or six yards from me - he passed him to come to me - he took the handkerchief off the ground - I had not had it.

MR. POCOCK. I thought at first there was a mark on it, but it is washed out; I have not the least doubt of its being mine.

GUILTY . Aged 18.

Transported for Fourteen Years .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-85
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1673. JOHN PICKARD was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of July , 1 reticule, value 2l.; 2 purses, value 30s.; 1 handkerchief, value 1s.; 1 bunch of keys, value 1s.; 3 sovereigns and 2 sixpences, the property of Robert Harwood , from the person of Mary, his wife .

MARY HARWOOD . I am the wife of Robert Harwood. On the 16th of July I was crossing the fields from Hackney , and two men passed me and my little boy - one of them had a basket in his hand, and my little boy drew my attention to it, as being a nice basket to hold froit - I was afterwards going through a stile; the prisoner and the other man came up to me; the other man snatched my reticule, fore it off my arm, and tore my dress in doing it - the prisoner did not touch me; he had hold of the other man's arm - I believe they were both equally close to me- I had just parted with my little boy; the prisoner and the other ran off across the fields - I have not seen the property since.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Have you no other name than Mary? A. No; I am the wife of Captain Robert Harwood; I am sure the prisoner was with the man who took it - I do not know that he parted with it to the prisoner - the other man got over a bank and escaped, but the prisoner was taken - they had passed me before, and the prisoner looked at me in going along.

OCTAVIUS HARWOOD . I am the prosecutrix's son. I had just left my mother, when the reticule was taken - I had seen the prisoner and another person going across the fields, about ten minutes before the reticule was snatched; I am certain the prisoner was one of the men.

Cross-examined. Q. Were not they before you? A. They passed us and went into the road to Clapton - I saw their faces as they passed within about two yards of us- I saw their side faces when I left my mother - I saw them again coming towards the stile where she was - they passed by me very quiet - the other man had a different face to this man; but I cannot describe his face.

COURT. Q. Were you before the Magistrate the next day? A. Yes; I saw the prisoner there then; I had no doubt of his being one of them.

WILLIAM GALLANT . I am a cow-keeper, and live at Clapton. On the 16th of July, I heard the cry of Stop thief! in the fields - I went a few yards, and saw the prisoner and another coming towards me - I asked them what was the matter; one of them said, "We have only been having a bit of fun with the lady;" the prisoner made to go past me, but I collared him; the other jumped over the bank and got away - there was no other person near; the lady and the young gentleman had been pursuing them, and crying Stop thief! for I suppose, fifty yards.

Cross-examined. Q. It might be the other one who said, "I have been having a bit of fun with the lady?" A. No; it was we have been having some fun with the lady; I did not see the reticule; the lady did say at first, that she thought the prisoner was one of the men, or something to that purpose.

COURT. Q. Where did she say so? A. When I had hold of the man's collar, she was quite in a flurry, but when she recovered herself, she said he was with the thief.

JOHN ELSON . I am a headborough. I took the prisoner into custody.

Prisoner's Defence. Being rather unwell I left home to take a walk - on my way home I went across this field, as the prosecutrix has stated - I stopped to look at the corn; a young man came up, and we were discoursing, I dare say for two or three minutes; this lady came by - as I was turning down a lane, I heard the cry of Stop thief! and I saw the young man who had been speaking to me rush by me - I put out my hand to stop him, but he got by - I told the witness who came up to stop him, but he let him go, being a man nearly his own size, and took me - the lady came up, and he asked if I was the person, she said No - he said, "Shall I let him go?" she said No - I believe he

was with the other, but stop till my son comes up - the young gentleman then came up, and said he believed I was the person.

Seven witnesses gave the prisoner an excellent character.

GUILTY. Aged 25.

Recommended to Mercy . - Confined Six Months .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-86
VerdictNot Guilty

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1674. TIMOTHY MAGAN was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of July , 1 purse, value 6d.; 1 half sovereign, 2 shillings, and sixpence, the property of Patrick Mallett , from his person .

PATRICK MALLETT . On the 15th of July I was going home and met the prisoner (whom I knew before,) in Maidenhead-court; he asked me into a public-house, and said he would treat me - he took me into a house, and called for a pot of beer; he would not pay for it - he wanted me to pay, and I would not - the publican took it back again; the prisoner then said, "Have you got no money?" I said, "No, and I do not want the beer; you may pay for it;" he then put his fingers to the bottom of my waistcoat pocket, where my purse was, and took it out - I told him to give it me, that nobody might know it; he then held his fist at me, and pulled me into the passage - and while I was waiting for the watchman, he bit my fingers - the watchman came; he struck the watchman, and made away - the watchman followed and came up with him again, and struck him with his stick - he was then taken - he denied having the purse at first, but when the constable got up to take him, he produced it - the money was all right in it, and a bit of black thread was in it.

EDWARD BOOTHMAN . I was the officer of the night - the prosecutor brought the prisoner in; he at first said he had no purse, and that the money he had about him was his own - but when the prosecutor described it, he produced it - they were neither of them sober.

Prisoner's Defence. He dropped his purse twice, and I took it up for him - I did not take it out of his pocket; he has known me five or six years.


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-87

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1675. WILLIAM COOKE was indicted for embezzlement .

JOHN SMITH . I deal with the prosecutor. On the 14th of April I paid the prisoner two sovereigns on their on account; he wrote a receipt on the bill, which I have here - I frequently paid him money on their account.

CHARLES SMITH . I am in partnership with Edward Trimnell ; we are gold-lace makers - the prisoner was in our employ, and received money for us; it was his duty to bring it directly to me or my partner; he did not. On the 14th of April he did not pay us any money whatever for Mr. John Smith - I am certain we never received this amount.

Prisoner's Defence. I acknowledge my offence; it was through pride and folly that I did it - I thought I should be able to replace it.

GUILTY . Aged 20.

Transported for Fourteen Years .

There were three other indictments against the prisoner.

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-88

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1676. THOMAS ROBERT POPPY was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of July , 34lbs. weight of paper, value 11s., and 1 book, value 2s. , the goods of John Singleton Taylor , his master .

MR. JOHN SMITH conducted the prosecution.

JOSEPH HARTWELL GOWER . I am a cheesemonger, and live in Crombie-row, Battle-bridge. I know the prisoner; I have bought paper of him several times within the last two or three months - the last time might be about two months ago; I bought several bundles, and paid him 4d. per 1b. I cannot recollect what quantity - I delivered some of the same paper to the constable.

Prisoner. Q. Did you hear Mr. Taylor say, if I gave up the account of the paper, he would not prosecute me? A. Yes; I think it was before your wife - he said he would not proceed against you.

WILLIAM TAMPANY . I am a cheesemonger, and live in Tottenham-court-road. I have a book which we bought of the prisoner about six months ago. I do not know what we gave for it - we generally give 41/2d. and 5d. a pound.

DANIEL TURNER . I am a cheesemonger, and live in Brewer-street. I bought some of these papers of a person who came to my shop about three months ago. I think it was a stouter man than the prisoner.

MR. JOHN SINGLETON TAYLOR . I am a solicitor - the prisoner was in my employ. I took him into my office to write, from charitable feelings - he was recommended to me from the poor-house; I did it to serve him. I received information, and his lodgings were searched - I had heard that part of our parish records were in circulation, with pieces of cheese. I am a vestry clerk - I went to Mr. Gower's, and found this large quantity of them.

WILLIAM DEAR . I am an officer, and produce the papers which were delivered to me at Hatton-garden, by Turner, Gower, and the other witness.

MR. TAYLOR. I know these papers - part of them are my writing, and part my clerks.

Prisoner. When I was in the New prison, Mr. Taylor said, if he got his papers back he would be out of the way, and not prosecute me - he has discharged two clerks for dishonesty.

MR. TAYLOR. There was a written paper sent me to sign, agreeing not to prosecute, but I declined signing it; I said I would make no compromise - I said, perhaps, if I got all my papers back, I would not. I have discharged two clerks for dishonesty.

Prisoner's Defence, On the 5th of July I left the office at dinner-time, and two officers came to search my apartment, saying, Mr. Taylor suspected I had taken some papers - I was taken to the office, and discharged next day; the Magistrate desired him to return me some papers which were taken from my lodging; but I left them for Mr. Taylor to look over - and left a note, saying he might look them over, and take what he thought proper. I left them there several days, then went and took the rest away, and sold it for waste-paper; I heard no more for some time, when he sent word that he was determined to prosecute me, unless I gave an account of what I had taken away; this was on the 7th or 8th of August. I had applied to him for 2l. 8s., which appears to have excited some vindictive feelings against me. On the 21st of August he sent me a note, stating that he wished to see me or my wife, and on the 23d I was again taken - the paper produced is precisely the same as was delivered to me at Hatton-garden - Mr. Taylor

called on me in the New prison, and assured me he would be out of the way; his words were, "If you will give me up that green book, I will not prosecute; but if not, I will do all I can to transport you." He has discharged some clerks, and it is hard I am to bear the blame of all that is lost - I was allowed only 15s. a week, and had a difficulty to get that. I had some papers to copy at home.

MR. TAYLOR. The papers desired by the Magistrate to be returned were not these - this is a subsequent transaction.

GUILTY . Aged 27.

Transported for Fourteen Years .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-89
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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1677. WILLIAM LLOYD was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of July , 1 hat, value 2s.; 2 boots, value 2s., and 1 book, value 6d. , the goods of Alfred Phillips his master .

ALFRED PHILLIPS , ESQ. I am a barrister . I reside in the Temple ; the prisoner was in my employ for about a fortnight - I received information, paid him off, and inquired if he had restored my hat and a pair of boots, which I knew were missed; he said he had - but when he was gone I found he had not. I then examined my wardrobe, and missed several things - he was apprehended.

JAMES BAKER . I found this hat on the prisoner's head, the boots on his feet, and the book in his pocket.(Property produced and sworn to.)

Prisoner's Defence. I asked the prosecutor if he would have the boots mended; he said, "You may take and do what you will with them;" I thought they were given me- the old hat was laying about; I took the book to read on Sunday, and forgot to return it. On Monday, when I was discharged, I went home to fetch it; I met Mr. Phillips as I returned, and he gave me in charge.

MR. PHILLIPS. I gave him none of them. I discharged him on Tuesday. I lost several other things, and thought it right to make an example of him.

GUILTY. Aged 21.

Strongly recommended to Mercy by the Prosecutor and Jury .

Confined One Month .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-90

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1678. JOHN DEAN was indicted for embezzlement .

HENRY BYE . I am a brewer ; the prisoner was in my service, and received money for me, which he should pay me as soon as he came home; he had a book to enter the day's proceedings - here is the book; he has entered some cash as received on the 2d of June, but not 6s. as received from Black - he has never paid me that 6s.

EDWARD BLACK . I gave my servant 6s. to pay the prisoner on his master's account, the beginning of June.

ESTHER DEARNE . I am servant to Mr. Black. On the 2d of June, I gave the prisoner 6s. he gave me.

The prisoner put in a written defence, stating that he believed he had paid his master every thing he had received, and if not it must arise from error.

GUILTY . Aged 53.

Transported for Fourteen Years .

There was another indictment against the prisoner.

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Reference Numbert18270913-91

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1679. WILLIAM WEST was indicted for embezzlement .

MARY CLARKE . I am a widow , and keep a marine store shop , in the parish of St. Margaret, Westminster; the prisoner was in my employ, and received money for me. I sent him to Mrs. Mackley, on the 2d of July, to see some rags weighed off, and to bring me back 10l. 16s. and some few pence - he never came back.

Prisoner. Q. Was I sober when I went? A. I thought so.

SARAH MACKLEY . I paid the prisoner 10l. 16s. 4d. on the 2d of July, on account of Mrs. Clarke; it was a 5l. note, the rest in gold and silver. I thought him rather stupid, but not intoxicated.

GUILTY . Aged 46.

Confined One Year .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-92
VerdictNot Guilty

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1680. CHARLES POPE was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of February , 1 pair of boots, value 20s. , the goods of Joseph Borsley , his master .

MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the prosecution.

CHARLES OGLE . I am a tailor and live in North Audley-street. I have bought boots of the prisoner, but I do not know whether he delivered them to me; here is a pair I ordered of him - I do not know whether he brought them to my house.

JOHN LACY . I am an officer. I have a pair of boots here, which Mr. Borsley cannot swear to.

Cross-examined by MR. CRESWELL. Q. When did you apprehend the prisoner? A. On the 15th of July. I do not know of his being tried here that day for stealing these very boots. I took him to Mary-le-bone office, and they ordered him to Marlborough-street, as the first case was taken there.


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Reference Numbert18270913-93

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1681. ELIZA COLLINS was indicted for stealing, on the 2d of September , 1 bushel of apples, value 3s., and 1 basket, value 9d. , the goods of Thomas Poole .

THOMAS GIBSON . I am servant to Thomas Poole , of Covent-garden. I was told the prisoner had taken a basket of apples from the stand - I went and found her with them; they were safe five minutes before.(Basket produced and sworn to.)

Prisoner. I thought I paid for them - I did not intend to steal them.

GUILTY . Aged 47.

Confined One Month .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-94
VerdictGuilty; Not Guilty

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1682. JOHN BUSKIN and ROBERT THRELKED were indicted for stealing, on the 31st of August , 1 handkerchief, value 3s., the goods of Jacob Myers , from his person .

JACOB MYERS . I was in the Strand on the 31st of August, between eight and nine o'clock in the evening, I felt some person at my pocket, turned round, and saw Whittingham holding Threlked by the collar.

Cross-examined by MR. BARRY. Q. You did not see the handkerchief taken? A. No; I missed it.(Property produced and sworn to.)

WILLIAM WHITTINGHAM . I was in the Strand, and saw the prisoners in company; I could not see which of them took the handkerchief, but I saw Threlked putting it into his pocket - I rushed up, and seized him - he dropped it at his feet; Buskin ran away, but a friend who was with me followed, and took him a few yards off; Buskin said he hoped I should be lenient.

Cross-examined. Q. Was it dark? A. Yes - the lamps

were lighted; I was very near them - they were so close together I could not see which took it.

THRELKED'S Defence. I picked up the handkerchief, and called to the gentleman.


Confined Six Months .


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Reference Numbert18270913-95

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1683. THOMAS HAWKINS was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of August , 1 bedstead, value 10s. , the goods of William Kennedy .

SARAH KENNEDY . I am the wife of William Kennedy , who is a broker - we live in Little St. Andrew-street . On the 25th of August the prisoner came into the shop, and offered some razors for sale, which I would not buy; he went out, and stood about the door; my daughter called out,"Mother, have you sold a bedstead?" I said No; we ran out, and took the prisoner in Little Earl-street, with it on his shoulder; it had been tied to a nail in our passage.

MARY KENNEDY . I saw the prisoner standing about, and missed the bedstead; we found the prisoner with it.

JAMES LEDGER . I am an officer, and stopped him with the bedstead on his back.

Prisoner's Defence. A man asked me to carry it for him.

GUILTY . Aged 36.

Confined Six Months .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-96
VerdictNot Guilty

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1684. ELIZA RILEY was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of July , 1 watch, value 3l.; 1 hat, value 12s.; 1 waistcoat, value 3s., and 1 handkerchief, value 1s. , the goods of Robert Bridges .

ROBERT BRIDGES . I met the prisoner in the Hay-market, on the 31st of July, and she took me to a house in Bennett-street ; we slept together, and in the morning I missed these things off the floor; she was still there - I do not know that she had left the room; my clothes were still on the ground; I asked her about it; she said if I did not hold my tongue, she would get somebody to throw me out of the window, and that I should find them when I got a light - I have not found them.

Prisoner. Q. Did you not tell your friends that you had been robbed by three men in the street? A. I did so because I did not like to tell the truth - I was sober - the door was fastened inside.

MARGARET M'DONALD . I am the wife of Thomas M'Donald , and keep this house; the prisoner had lodged with me about a fortnight.

The prisoner put in a written defence, denying the charge, and stating that the door was not fastened, and she had lost her shawl at the same time.

WILLIAM ALLENSBY . I examined the door, and there was no fastening to it.


13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-97
VerdictsGuilty; Guilty
SentencesImprisonment; Transportation

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1685. JAMES RYAN was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of August, 21/2lbs. weight of hair, value 7s. 6d. , the goods of Caleb Welch Collins , and Richard Wells ; and WILLIAM JONES was indicted for feloniously receiving the same, knowing it to have been stolen .

MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the prosecution.

CALEB WELCH COLLINS . I am in partnership with Richard Wells ; we are horse-hair merchants , and live in Chancery-lane; Ryan was our porter . In consequence of an anonymous letter I watched him, and about a quarter past nine o'clock, on the 15th of August, I saw the prisoner Jones come in, and when he went out, I followed him, and asked what he had been to the warehouse for; he said he had got a little hair; I asked how much; he seemed confused, and said about a pound or half a pound: I took him into the counting-house, and asked him what he paid for it; he seemed confused, and said Ryan could tell what he paid for it; I called Ryan, who said 18d.: I had the hair weighed, and it was 2lbs. 10ozs., the value of which is 7s. 6d. I told Ryan he must be a very bad man to deliver so much hair at such a price: he said it was a mistake altogether; I said I could not look it over, and got an officer - I had seen nothing take place between the prisoners in the shop; Ryan entreated forgiveness, and said it was his first offence.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Then Jones went into the house? A. Yes; Riley said it was his first offence, and that he had done wrong - I do not recollect his saying it was a mistake - he had lived seventeen years with us, and bore a very good character.

THOMAS WRIGHT WELLS . I am the son of Richard Wells . I went down and asked Ryan how much he had received of Jones; he seemed confused, and said 18d.; after some time he gave it to me - he turned his back; I do not know whether he took it from his jacket pocket; I had seen Jones come in, but saw nothing pass between them - they went into the wareroom together.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you say any thing to Ryan? A. I said, "Why did not you take more than 1s. 6d.?" he said it was the first time.

JONES' Defence. I went to purchase some hair; Ryan asked how much I wanted; I said about half-a-pound; he said, "I am in a hurry," and, looking at this bundle, said, "I dare say this will be half-a-pound; get your money, and I will take it into the counting-house."

RYAN - GUILTY . Aged 28.

Confined One Year .

JONES - GUILTY . Aged 59.

Transported for Fourteen Years .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-98

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1686. HENRY WEST was indicted for stealing, on the 22d of August , 3 shirts, value 15s. , the goods of Ephraim Birch .

EPHRAIM BIRCH . I am horse-keeper to Mr. Fagg, of Hounslow-heath; I missed my shirts from a little enclosure in the front of my house, on the 22d of August.

ANN HINES . I washed these shirts, and hung them out on a line opposite the house, about ten minutes before ten o'clock in the morning of the 22d of August; I missed them a little after twelve - I know nothing of the prisoner.

RICHARD PAINTER . I am a headborough of Stanwell. In consequence of information, I pursued the prisoner, on the 22d of August, between three and four o'clock, and found him lying on the road, about three or four miles from Bedfout; when he got up I found these shirts under him; he begged I would let him go, but did not say how he became possessed of them.(Property produced and sworn to.)

Prisoner's Defence. I bought these shirts of a stranger, about one week before I was taken.

GUILTY . Aged 15.

Transported for Seven Years .

13th September 1827
Reference Numbert18270913-99
VerdictNot Guilty

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1687. JOHN WILKIE and WILLIAM RICHARDS were indicted for stealing, on the 14th of June , 1 timepiece, value 2l. , the goods of Thomas Knight .

SARAH KNIGHT . I am the wife of Thomas Knight , a cow-keeper , and live in Upper York-street ; this timepiece was on a chest of drawers in the front kitchen; I was in the parlour on the 14th of June, about eleven o'clock in the morning, and saw a boy come up the area steps and run away with something; he was about the size of Wilkie - I ran after him - he got away into some houses in Nelson-place.

JAMES TILLING . I was in my shop, which is about thirty yards from Kni