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THE WHOLE PROCEEDINGS ON THE KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON; AND ALSO The Gaol Delivery for the County of Middlesex; HELD AT JUSTICE HALL in the OLD BAILEY, On Wednesday the 28th of October 1795, and the following Days; Being the EIGHTH SESSION in the Mayoralty of The Right Hon. THOMAS SKINNER, Esq. LORD MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LONDON.

TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND BY MANOAH SIBLY , PROFESSOR OF SHORT-HAND, No. 35, Goswell-Street, And Published by Authority.


LONDON; Printed and published by HENRY FENWICK , No. 63, Snow Hill. Price TWO SHILLINGS.

THE WHOLE PROCEEDINGS ON THE KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON, &c.

BEFORE the Right Honourable THOMAS SKINNER , Esq. LORD MAYOR of the City of LONDON; The Honourable Sir BEAUMONT HOTHAM , Knt. one of the Barons of his Majesty's Court of Exchequer: The Honourable Sir JOHN HEATH , Knt. one of the Justices of his Majesty's Court of Common Pleas: Sir JOHN WILLIAM ROSE , Knt. Serjeant at Law, Recorder of the said City; and others His Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer of the CITY of LONDON, and Justices of Gaol Delivery of NEWGATE, holden for the said City and County of MIDDLESEX.

First London Jury.

Benjamin Gibson

Thomas Warrington

Richard Pugh

William Hackett

Thomas Fenton

Philip Bond

Henry Arbuthnot

Richard Burrow

Thomas Donaldson

John Craig

John Pickering

James Blinkensoff

Second London Jury.

Benjamin Gibson

Thomas Warrington

Richard Pugh

William Hackett

Thomas Fenton

Philip Bond

John Craig

James Blinkensoff

William Marthew

Robert Sparkes

Swinton Jarvis

Francis Batterson

First Middlesex Jury.

Thomas Gerrard

Lucius Punderson

Ralph Morris

Peter Clunn

James Gibson

John Mashiter

James Stuart

George Howard

John Skiryin

James Collingridge

John Morley

Joseph Flint

Second Middlesex Jury.

William Cheek

Thomas Mills

Richard Davis

Tho. Whitworth

Charles Ashby

James Dalton

John Parker

John Musgrove

James Triggs

John Whitworth

Edward Scott

Richard Snewell

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-1
VerdictGuilty; Not Guilty

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471. JOHN SKOWIN and GEORGE DAVIS were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 15th of September , a bushel of flour, value 14s. the goods of Michael Shears .


I am a baker in Goswell-street, Clerkenwell ; the men were both my servants, journeymen .

Q. Did they work by the week? - Yes. I caught John Skowin with the sack on his back; it was not a whole sack of flour, there was about a bushel in the sack, worth about fourteen shillings; I see him bring it out on the 15th of September, about one o'clock in the morning; he brought it out of my bakehouse; I caught him with it in Bridewell walk; I see him bring it up the steps out of the bakehouse.

Q. How far did you let him go before you took him? - No further than I could cotch him; and when I laid hold of him he dropped the sack off his back.

Q. How far was he from your door when he dropped it off his back? - It might be about fifty yards; that was the outside.

Q. Did you say any thing to him when you laid hold of him? - Yes, I called him a bad fellow, and told him I thought he would not have done the like; not only that, but I told him I thought it was not the first time; the answer that he made was, he hoped that I would let him go; and begged that, I would. I called out which I for a considerable time before the watchman came up; the patrol came up first, and I gave him in charge of the patrol; and afterwards the watchman came up, and I lifted the flour on the watchman's back, and he carried it to the watch-house.

Q. Who has kept the flour ever since? - I have in the sack. The sack belongs to the miller; but I have the papers when the flour was delivered in to me from the factor. I had two parcels, and I know the sack was delivered into my bakehouse in one of the parcels, by the papers, but I cannot say in which load. The sack is here, and the flour is in the sack.

Q. When had you last seen the sack in your bakehouse - I see it that day before I went out. It has the same mark as on the paper, T. S.

Q. Now all this, I understand, to have been proved against one of the prisoners, Skowin; what have you to say against the other, George Davis ? - No more than I see him look out of a broken pane of glass two or three times before the man brought the flour out, and he shut the door directly after him.

Q. Then all that you can say is, that Davis was in the bakehouse at the time? - Yes.

Mr. Alley. You say that these sacks were marked by the miller's mark, that miller serves a great many other bakers, as well as you? - He does.

Q. Have you any body concerned with you in your business? - Nobody in the world.

Q. You usually work at night? - Yes.

Q. Therefore there is nothing uncommon in a man's being in a bakehouse at

night; his business calls him there? - It does.

Court. Had you given him any orders to carry out any flour to any place that night? - No, I had not.


I live opposite to Mr. Shears; I see the man, George Skowin, come out of the bakehouse with the flour on his back, about one o'clock in the morning.

Q. What did he do with it? - I don't know; I never went out of my house. I heard the cry of watch! and I sprang my rattle. I see George Davis shut the door after him.

Q. When did Davis shut the door? - The moment the man came out with the flour.

Q. Are you a married woman or a widow woman? - A married woman.

Q. What is your husband? - He is a gentleman.

Mr. Alley. This was at one o'clock at night you say? - Yes.

Q. And after you heard the rattles spring you came to the window? - I sprung the rattle myself.

Q. What width is the street? - A very narrow street.

Q. What pair of stairs were you in? - In the one pair of stairs.

Q. Do you mean to say that that was the prisoner that you see across the street? - I see him very clearly by the light of the bakehouse, and by the light of the lamps. I can swear that that was the man.

Mr. Alley to Prosecutor. I believe after the prisoner Skowin was apprehended the other prisoner was in your service? - Yes, he was.

Q. And he, by your direction, attended at the magistrate's after the other was in custody? - Yes, he did.

Q. He knew the other was charged with this offence, and yet he attended at the magistrate's? - He did.(The flour and sack produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner Skewin. I leave it to my counsel.

Prisoner Davis. I know no more of it than a child unborn, of his going out at all.

The prisoner Skowin called four witnesses. and the prisoner Davis called four witnesses, who gave them both good characters.

John Skowin , GUILTY . (Aged 36.)

Transported for seven years .

George Davis , Not GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex, Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-2
VerdictNot Guilty

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472. PETER CATAPODI was indicted for that he, on the 5th of August , feloniously did falsely make, forge, and counterfeit, and did cause to be falsely made, forged, and counterfeited, and did willingly act and assist in falsely making, forging, and counterfeiting a certain paper writing, purporting to be a promissory note for the payment of money, with the name of J. Sanders there to subscribed, purporting to be drawn by J. Sanders, at Plymouth, the 2d of June 1795, for payment to the bearer on demand, at Plymouth aforesaid, or at Messrs. Hankey, Chaplin, Hall, and Hankey, banker s, London, the sum of five guineas, value received, with intention to defraud Joseph Chaplin Hankey , Esq. Stephen Hall , Esq. Robert Hankey , Esq. Richard Hankey , Esq. Robert Augustus Hankey , Esq. and George Garthum , Esq .

A Second COUNT for uttering a like forged note, with the same intention.(The indictment opened by Mr. Knapp, and the case by Mr. Const.)


Q. What are you? - When I am not employed in the public service; I am engaged with Mr. Walker, an upholsterer, in Covent Garden.

Q. What do you mean by being employed in the public service? - I am employed sometimes to apprehend people for different misdemeanors.

Q. Do you mean in the bill way? - Yes, that and some other ways.

Q. You was employed by the association of bankers on this occasion? - Yes, by the solicitor.

Q. How long have you known Catapodi? - About three years.

Q. Will you tell us what you know about the five guinea note that is the subject of this charge? - When Mr. Catapodi was taken into custody about the 13th of July, to New Prison Clerkenwell, I there waited on him.

Q. That was not for this offence? - That was the beginning of it.

Q. Come immediately to the subject of these five guinea notes? - The first note he gave me was in the prison.

Q. When did he give you that? - I believe it might be about the 13th of August. It was a blank note; he gave it me to negotiate, and at the same time gave me a list of names which the solicitor of the bankers had given about, and he marked with a pencil those that I was not to go near.

Q. What was the amount of that note? - It was a five pound.

Q. Do you recollect on what banker it was drawn? - No, I do not recollect; I believe it was on Sir Robert Herries or Meslis. Hankey.(A note shewn him.)

Q. Tell us whether that was the note that he gave you? - This is the first note, I know it by the tare at the bottom of it.

Q. That is on Sir Robert Herries , that was not signed at the time, nor is it signed now? - No, I was to sign it, or get it signed, and he gave me a list of the shops that had been done; fearful I should go to those shops; I returned, and told him I could not do it, but I would get a friend to do it; he asked me who it was? I said it was a friend that meant to send them to Wales, and there they would be far distant from the town; that was my own idea to him, that he should not be urgent for the money immediately. The second note I had was in about two days after.

Q. What was that note for? - It was for five guineas; I cannot say particularly that I should know the note again, because there was no mark, and there was so many of them.

Q. Look at that note. (A note shewn him) - I am pretty positive, I would not swear, but I am pretty sure it is. This is a note on Messrs. Hankeys for five guineas.

Q. Which ever was the note, did you give the same note to Mr. Whittard and Mr. Winbolt? - I gave them first to Mr. Ellison, Mr. Ellison viewing the stamp to be forged, sent me to Mr. Escourt and Whittard, solicitors for the Stamp office, and clerk in the Stamp office. When he gave me the second note, he told me that as soon as he could raise fifty pounds, he would have a plate to work the Bank of England. I took this second one likewise to Mr. Ellison, Mr. Ellison viewed that likewise; but mentioning the Bank of England, I thought it my duty to go to Mr. Winter, the solicitor for the Bank, I went to him to shew him this second note, the five guinea note, as soon as I shewed it to Mr. Winter I took it to Mr. Escourt and Whittard, and there Mr. Ellison met me; then Mr. Whittard gave me some money; I then went to the prison, and I gave Mr. Catipodi some money.

Q. How much did he give you? - He gave me four guineas.

Q. What did you do when you came to Mr. Catipodi? - I took him some money and provisions.

Q. How much money did you give him? - I cannot absolutely say the sum. When this was over, which was the conclusion of the week, he came up to Bow-street, and was dismissed; I took the two notes from Mr. Whittard to Mr. Winbolt.

Q. Were the same that you delivered to Mr. Winbolt afterwards, the same as you describe to have given Mr. Whittard before? - Yes, the very same; then a very few days elapsed before he was discharged, he was discharged the 20th of July; then there were various appointments between Mr. Catipodi and me till the 8th of August; there were people who were negociating these bills, and we sometimes met them in St. James's Park, sometimes in one place and sometimes in another. But however on the 5th of August he gave me the bill in question, which is the subject of the present indictment, he gave it me in the avenue, or lane, leading from his garden door in Frog-lane, or Frogmore-lane, I slington; he then gave me the bill signed, I. Sanders, and he made an observation that he wished the ink had been different, he said it was not so well as if the two inks had been different, the writing of the entering clerk and the signature of the bill.

Q. Did he tell you what you was to do with this note? - To negociate it, and to make all the haste possible to do it. Previous to this we agreed to go to Southampton, and all the coasts about, as soon as we could raise as much money as we could travel genteelly down; I offered to go with him as an attendant, but there were two or three to go with him as occomplices; this was in the afternoon, between four and five o'clock. I could not see Mr. Ellison at his office that evening, immediately I waited on him at his house in Sloan-place, Chelsea; he likewise viewed this not to be quite perfect; I went to Mr. Whittard, and Mr. Whittard took a good impression of the stamp, and compared them, and said this is not a forgery.

Q. Meaning not a forged stamp? - Yes. Immediately I went to Mr. Winbolt, the solicitor for the Bank of England. I am sure this is the note, I marked.

Q. You say you gave this note to Mr. Winbolt? - I did, I told Mr. Winbolt that he was very urgent for money, and I must take him something, and Mr. Winbolt gave me a guinea; it was then towards the evening, and the next day, as Mr. Catipodi met his accomplices down at the parade at St James's, the Horse Guards, at eleven o'clock, which was the usual hour of exercising, there I met Catipodi as usual, then I gave him four shillings out of the guinea; he had some other people whom he expected money of, he did expect money of three different people I believe; he complained very much that the people who had his bills did not come forward as they ought to do with the money for the bills that he gave them, and he threatened to impeach some of them.(The bill read by the clerk of the court.)

"No. 5094. 5l. 5s.

Plymouth, June 2d 1795.

I promise to pay to the bearer on demand, here or at Messrs. Hankey, Chaplain, Hall, and Hankey, bankers, London, five guineas, value received.

Five guineas. I. Sanders."

Entered A. Clarkson.

Mr. Alley. I take it for granted that as you are on your oath, what you have told to day is true? - Every word is true.

Q. You have told us that you were employed by Mr. Winbolt, on your oath were you? - I have been so far employed

by Mr. Winbolt, that I have done Mr. Winbolt and his client service, and Mr. Winbolt paid me for it; Mr. Ellison recommended me to Mr. Winbolt; I was employed by both so far.

Q. Then I suppose if Mr. Winbolt should swear that he did not employ you, he is guilty of perjury; do you mean to swear on your oath that you was employed by him? - I will not say that Mr. Winbolt ever sent for me, I cannot say that I was employed under Mr. Winbolt by any means.

Q. Let me ask you what you meant by being employed in the service of the public, and that that was the way you got your livelihood? - No, far from it; I have told you the truth.

Q. What is this public service? - It is a public service that I must not mention.

Q. In plain English are you not acting as a common informer? - No, never was in that kind of way in my life.

Court. He is not bound to answer that question.

Q. You have told us that you gave two blank notes to Mr. Winbolt, when was it you gave him them? - The first was I believe in July, about the 19th.

Q. How long is it since this note in question was given Mr. Winbolt? - On the 5th of August.

Q. Then Mr. Winbolt had the intervening time from the 19th of July to the 5th of August, to enquire into these notes? - He did not think any thing at all of these notes; M. Winbolt knew his practices for some time.

Q. Did not you represent it to Mr. Winbolt as a bank note? - I thought it was my duty, I had no occasion of making any representation of it.

Q. Did not you first enquire of Mr. Ellison whether the stamp was a good one or a bad one? - I did not enquire any thing at all of Mr. Ellison, but whether it was a forged note or not.

Q. Who desired you to do that? - Mr. Whittard and Mr. Escourt.

Q. On that occasion did Mr. Winbolt know of your having been at the Stamp office? - I told him when I gave him the note that I had been, and the stamp was not forged; Mr. Winbolt looked at it, and I said I must take Mr. Catipodi some money, and he gave me a guinea.

Q. Now Mr. Patrick Blake , how much money did you receive of Mr. Whittard? - Mr. Whittard gave me four guineas.

Q. Did not you get these four guineas as a reward to encourage you to go forward? - Upon my word it was not; part I gave to Catipodi and part I kept.

Q. How much did you give him? - I cannot tell, as I am on my oath.

Q. But you shall tell. Did you give the half? - I cannot say.

Q. Did you give him the fourth? - Upon my word I cannot tell.

Q. Did you give him a guinea? - It may be more or it may be less.

Q. Did you give him as much as five shillings? - Yes, a vast deal; or three times five.

Q. At the time Mr. Winbolt gave you a guinea on this last note, what did Mr. Winbolt say to you? - Mr. Winbolt seemed in a hurry, and there was no conversation at all about it.

Q. How long was the note in Mr. Winbolt's hands before he gave you the guinea? - It was not five minutes, because he was in a hurry, going out.

Q. You represented to Mr. Winbolt what you wanted the money for? - Certainly.

Q. How long have you lived in London? - Above sixteen years.

Q. Have you continued in London during that time? - Yes, except such time as I was clerk to Sir Paul - , down at Boxley Abbey.

Q. How long is it since you were at Dublin? I believe you are an Irishman? - About nineteen years.

Q. Do you mean to swear that you have never been in Dublin these nineteen years? - I will swear it.

Q. Then if any body shall say that you was concerned in the robbery on the lottery wheel there, then they will swear that that is false? - Indeed they will.

Q. In this town have you ever employed yourself as giving bail for several persons, and receiving money for so doing?

Court. You cannot answer such questions.

Mr. Alley. Have you ever given bail for the prisoner and his son? - I did, about three years ago.


Q. You are clerk to Messrs. Hankeys? - I am.

Q. What is the firm of your house? - Joseph Chaplain Hankey , Stephen Hall, Robert Hankey , Richard Hankey, Augustus Robert Hankey , and George Garthum .

Q. Will you look at that bill; the signature is I. Sanders. Have you any person who keeps cash at your house? - Not residing at Plymouth, we have no correspondent at Plymouth.

Mr. Alley. Is the firm of your house exactly described on that bill? - Not exactly.

Q. Tell us the variance? - On that bill it is Messrs. Hankey, Chaplin, Hall, and Hankey.

Mr. Const. I believe I need not ask you if there are any other Hankeys in England? - None.


Q. I believe you have been at Plymouth, from whence this note is dated? - Yes, I am clerk to Mr. Winbolt, solicitor for the association.

Q. You went to Plymouth; did you take every pains that occurred to you to find out such a person as I. Sanders? - I did.

Q. Did you find out any one person of the name? - I did not.

Q. Either mercantile house, banking houses, or any other? - There are only two banking houses there.

Q. Did you go to the collectors of the taxes? - I did, I searched the parish books, I went to the post office, &c. and could not find such a person.


Q. You are the solicitor for the association of bankers of London and Westminster. Do you remember Mr. Blake coming to you on the latter end of July? - Yes, he did; on the 25th of July he brought me these two blank notes; I told him I thought they were of no consequence, but desired him to leave them with me.

Q. Did you afterwards see him? - On the 6th of August he came to me, and brought me this note that is stated in the indictment, he told me it was given to him by the prisoner at the bar, to negociate.

Q. He produced it to you and left it? - He did, I asked him to leave it, and he said he would, he said that Catipodi would expect something, I gave him a guinea; the note I have had in my custody ever since.

- WHITTARD sworn.

Q. I believe you are in the Solicitor's office, in the department of stamps. I only want to know whether you was privy to these circumstances which have been mentioned by Blake? - I was.

Mr. Alley to Winbolt. At the time you gave the money you knew the bill was forged? - I expected it was.

Q. You did not give it him in fair negociation? - I did not.

Mr. Const to Whittard. Did you examine the stamps on his producing the bills to you? - I did.

Q. Do you know whether Mr. Ellison was privy to these transactions? - He was.

Mr. Alley submitted to the court, that in this case, the evidence went no further than having this forged note in his possession, but not of his forging or uttering, with an intent to defraud.

Court. That is the question which the jury have to decide; if a man merely forges a note, and takes no steps on that note; there is no evidence of his intention to defraud, but if he takes any steps on that note; then there is evidence to go to a jury, for to decide whether he meant to defraud or no.

Prisoner. My lord, and gentlemen of the jury, the only evidence that has been adduced against me in this prosecution is, Patrick Blake ; my lord must permit me to observe to the gentlemen of the jury, that it is the testimony of a man that has been well known to be guilty of every species of perjury and fraud; and it is not justice that has impelled him to this prosecution; no, his corrupt heart is destitute of every honest sentiment, and he is induced to this prosecution by hopes of a reward, which he is promised if he can prevail on you to pronounce me guilty; under these hopes he comes into this honourable court, and endeavours by falshood to mislead your judgment, and under the mask of justice he endeavours to rob me of my existence. Painful as my situation is, I feel a singular satisfaction that I am tried in this tribunal, and under your lordship's direction I leave my cause; I have no witnesses, I thought Blake's character was sufficiently notorious to be known by some of the jury, or some of the gentlemen in this court.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-3
VerdictNot Guilty

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473. HENRY HART was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of George Overton , about the hour of nine in the night, of the 29th of July , and burglariously stealing therein, a silver pepper box, value 10s. a silver cream pot, value 10s. a silver table spoon, value 10s. a silver punch ladle value 5s and a pair of stone knee buckles set in silver, value 8s. the goods of the said George Overton .


I keep the Fountain, in Broad-street, Carnaby-market .

Q. Was your house broke open in July last? - Yes, between eight and nine in the evening, the 29th of July, I believe.

Q. Were you at home? - Yes.

Q. Did you see any thing that passed? - No, not till the prisoner was taken.

Q. When was he taken? - Between eight and nine. There was nothing found on him.

Q. What did you lose? - The things mentioned in the indictment. I cannot say to the value of them.

Mr. Knowlys. At this time could you distinguish the features of any man's face that was close to you? - Yes, it was just between the lights.

Q. There was day light enough to distinguish a man's face? - Yes, there was.

Q. I believe you had not seen any of these things for a long time? - I had not seen them that day, but to the best of my knowledge I had the day before. I cannot swear to the property being exactly there at that time.

Q. I believe you had suspicions of some persons in your house before that time? - I have at different times missed some small articles.

Q. I believe this person came to your house and enquired for a man, a lodger of

yours? - He enquired for somebody; there was a person of that name that had lodged in the house some time back.


I am a cabinet-maker; I was standing at Mr. Overton's door, and my wife come to me and said, there is a than in a light coloured coat gone up stairs; and I said, if he is gone to me he will soon be down, I hope you have locked the door. I lodge in the house. Afterwards a woman came for some shavings, and my wife went up stairs to give her some. I had suspicion, seeing three men about the house, and I went up stairs and went to Mr. Overton's bed room, and went to open it, and found it pulled against me, after that I tried it again, and could not stir it; after that I asked my wife for the light, which she had in her hand; she said, no, let me light the woman down stairs; after that when my wife was gone down stairs, this Henry Hart opened the door to peep, and I caught hold of him by the collar, and never loosed him till the constable came, and he was searched.

Q. What was found on him? - Nothing but a knife with a long pick to it, and a bunch of keys. When I had hold of him there was a man came out behind him, and gave me a violent blow, so that I could not speak; I cannot say who he was; he got away from me.


I went to fetch a pint of milk, and coming up again with it, and then going down again, Mr. Overton came out of his bed room and double locked his door, and I went down and followed him with a light, and when I got to the door I went to the street door, and Henry Hart came to the bar and called for a glass of liquor; he changed something for the liquor, and put the change into his right hand waistcoat pocket; I stood between the two doors; I see him go out of the front door and go to the back door, and go up stairs; I said to my husband, there is a man gone up stairs in a white coat. A woman came for some chips; I went up stairs with the woman, and when I went to the slight of stairs I see Mr. Overton's door move; I went into my own room and gave her some shavings, I was telling this woman to go to my husband; I see the door move again.

Q. Did you see the man come out of the room? - Yes, I did; he did not come out quite before my husband took him.

Q. Did you see him searched? - Yes.

Q. Did you see any thing found on him? - Yes, a picker with a knife to it, and a large key.

Mr. Knowlys. You see a knife which opened at the back with a picker, which every body carries with him who go on horse back? - It was such a knife as had a picker to it.


I was a constable at that time that Henry Hart was taken prisoner.

Q. Had you the prisoner in custody in Mr. Overton's house? - I had.

Q. Did you search him? - I did; I found a knife with a picker to it, and a key; the picker may be to pick out a stone out of a horse shoe, or any thing of that sort; and a metal watch, which I returned to him.

Q. You found none of this property? - None at all. I took him to St. James's watch-house.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-4
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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474. JAMES WATSON was indicted for feloniously stealing, privately from the person of Michael Macnamara , on the 10th of August , a leather pocket book, value 10d. a pair of scissars, value 2d. a knife, value 6d. a pencil, value 2d. and a bank note, value 10l. the goods of the said Michael Macnamara .

No Evidence. ACQUITTED .

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-5
SentenceImprisonment > house of correction; Miscellaneous > fine

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475. REBECCA CLEMENTS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 1st of November , two linen sheets, value 5s. two woollen blankets, value 2s. a flat iron, value 6d. and an iron key, value 1d. the goods of George Cobb .


Q. Are you a house keeper? - Yes, in Twisters alley, Bunhill row .

Q. Do you know the prisoner at the bar? - Yes.

Q. Did you let lodgings to her? - Yes, I did, about the 18th of last October.

Q. Were they furnished lodgings? - Yes.

Q. How long did she continue in your lodgings before you missed any thing? - Almost three weeks. I then missed one pair of linen sheets, two woollen blankets, a flat iron, and the key of the door she took with her.

Q. When you missed them, had she left the lodgings? - Yes, I believe she had, about a day.

Q. Were these things part of the furniture let with the lodgings? - Yes, she had the use of them.

Q. How soon afterwards did you see her? - Nine months had elapsed before I happened to see her.

Q. Have you the things here? - No; she denies to be the person, and I have witnesses to prove that she is the same.

Prisoner. I never was in the man's house in my life.


Q. Do you remember the prisoner at the bar in October last? - Yes; she was in this gentleman's lodgings.

Q. Did you know her before she took the lodgings? - No.

Prisoner. My name is Rebecca Appleton ; I never lived in that place or house, nor never see him till the 11th day of August last, when he stopped me in Whitecross-street and told me that I was the person that robbed him; I desired him not to ill treat me; and went into a public house, and he charged a constable with me, and had me before authority, and then said he would bring a woman that knew me, which he did, and that woman declared that I was not the person.

Court to White. Did you say that you did not know her when you see her? - I knew her immediately.


I lodged with the prosecutor.

Q. Do you remember the prisoner? - I do.

Q. Do you remember her occupying these lodgings? - I do. I am positive to her person.

Prisoner. My witnesses are not here now; they were here last session.


Q. Do you remember the prisoner at the bar? - I do. The prosecutor is my father.

Q. Did the prisoner occupy your father's lodgings? - She did; and I had a mother on a sick bed at the time, and I

was the person that let her in; my mother is now dead.

GUILTY . (Aged 43.)

Imprisoned one year in the House of Correction , and fined 1s .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-6
VerdictNot Guilty

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476. HANNAH HADLEY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 18th of October , a guinea; the money of James Vernon , privately from his person .


I am a turner ; I lost a guinea, the 18th of this month, between the hours of twelve and one in the morning, in a little court in Wych-street ; I had got some company to sup with me, and I went to see them home; coming back again I met with this here woman, she laid hold of me and brought me down a court, and was pulling me about, and I bethought myself of having a guinea in my pocket, I put my hand into my pocket and felt it; turning myself about to leave her I put my hand into my pocket again, thinking whether she might not take it, and I missed it.

Q. How long might you have been together? - It was instantly. I tells her, you have taken the guinea from me; with that I charged the watch with her; I took her to the watch-house and she was searched, and the guinea was found about her.

Q. Were you present when it was found? - Yes. It appeared to be mine, very much like it, an old guinea.

Q. Any thing particular about it? - No. On Monday morning I went to the Brown Bear , and she and the men belonging to her were there, and some more belonging to them, and they were tampering with me, and wanted me to make it up, and I said, I know nothing about it, I only want my guinea that was lost; they said they would pay me part directly, and said, here is four shillings. I being ignorant of any thing of the king, unfortunately took up the four shillings; and the constable came and said, we must go over to the justice immediately. When I came back again I presented the four shillings to him, and he said he would not take it back again by any means.

Prisoner. Did not you lay hold of me in Wych-street? - Not to my knowledge.

Prisoner. The gentleman stopped me in Wych-street his own self, and he seemed to be a little in liquor, and I said I had rather go about my business, and he said he would give a shilling to get me a supper if I would go along with him.

Prosecutor. I had been drinking rather more than common, which might take an effect of my head, but still I was sensible of what I did.


I am the constable of the night; the prisoner was brought to the watch-house by two watchmen.

Q. Did you search her? - I did. The prosecutor was very violent in his charge, persisting that she had got a guinea from him. I made a search as far as decency would permit, and I could not find any thing. He then exclaimed violently that then she had gorged it; I thought he meant she had swallowed it; I said, if she has swallowed it you must not expect to have it; he said, perhaps she has put it in another place; and I said, you may search her, I will not; and he did; he said, it is here, and pulled it out. When

he presumed to search her there, she says, why you have been there before.

Prisoner. That gentleman put his hand into his pocket and gave me a guinea or a shilling, I don't know what it was, and he said he had given a guinea, and he would have it back; I said, I could not give him back; I said, I could not give him back what he had given me; and then he said he would give charge of me for robbing him of a guinea. I have witnesses of the four shillings that he received.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-7
VerdictNot Guilty

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477. JOHN HARRIS was indicted for feloniously stealing in the dwelling house of George Fox , on the 23d of September , a bank note, value 15l. and another bank note, value 10l. the property of the said George Fox .


Q. Did you lose any bank notes from your house? - Yes, a ten pound and a fifteen pound notes; they were in my fob pocket on the 23d of September, in the morning, I lost them out of my fob pocket; the prisoner lived servant along with me about five or six weeks; I am not positive he took them out; I took them the night before, one of Captain Edwin and the other of Mr. Wallis. I have not seen them since.

Q. How came you to lose them out of your fob? - It was very early in the morning.

Q. Were you up or in bed? - Up. I got up very early in the morning to do my business, and while I was up the button came off my small clothes, so I went up stairs and changed them, and took them down stairs to the servant maid to put a button on them; and I called her before she put the button on, and she left them by the fire screen while she came up to me. I don't know that of my own knowledge.


Q. You are a servant to the prosecutor? - Yes.

Q. Do you remember sewing a button on? - Yes, on the 23d of September last.

Q. Who gave you the breeches, your master? - Yes.

Q. Did you put them out of your hand before you returned them? - Yes; my master called me up stairs, and I left the breeches on the fire screen, and then I went down again and sewed the other button on.

Q. Did you observe the fob? - I did not think any thing about it.

Q. Was the prisoner at the bar in the room? - Yes, he was.

Q. Any body else? - Yes, Captain Edwin, and Francis Hyson , a soldier, in the kitchen.


Q. Were you in the kitchen at this time, when these breeches were there on the 23d of September last? - Yes. When I came into the kitchen, Mary Hamilton had the breeches in her hand, and her master called her, and she left the breeches on the fire screen; I see a button lay, and I took the breeches up and put the button into the fob, and I observed something, and said to John Harris , there is something in there, and he took them by the knee and shook them, and turned his back to me, directly he pulled the breeches close to him; he then laid them on the screen and went down into the cellar.

Q. Did you observe what it was in the fob? - No; I observed there was some

thing, some papers, but what it was I did not know.

Q. To Hamilton. How soon afterwards was it that you carried up the breeches to your master? - I never left them after I put the button on, I carried them up immediately.

Q. To Prosecutor. How soon was it afterwards that you missed your notes? - About a couple of hours, the same morning; I put the breeches on, and went to feel for the notes, and found the fob sewed up, by sewing the button on, and I cut it open, and found the notes gone. I have a very good opinion of the prisoner.

Prisoner. I never knew any thing of them. I was only taking down a pair of shoes from the shelf to clean, for Mr. Fox's son, which he asked me for, and I took the breeches in my hand, and I said, master Tom, I will ask your dadda for these breeches, he will hardly wear them again, they are all broke at the knee; and somebody called for a pint of beer, and I went down to draw it.

Court to Prosecutor. When had you last seen your notes? - I put them in my pocket the night before, and found them in my pocket when I got up.

Q. Had you any other paper in your breeches? - None. I have enquired into his character, and I find he has a very excellent one.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-8
VerdictNot Guilty

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478. WILLIAM LUCKEN OYENS , and DAVID COLSON, otherwise GEORGE CHESHAM were indicted for burglariously breaking and and entering the dwelling house of Daniel Chase , about the hour of three in the night, on the 16th of September , and burglariously stealing therein, fourteen pair of mens leather shoes, value 3l. four pair of womens shoes, value 10s. a pair of red morocco half boots, value 4s. the goods of the said Daniel Chase .


I live at No. 13, Great East-street, Seven Dials .

Q. Was your house broke open in September last? - Yes, the 16th, at night. I went to bed about eleven o'clock.

Q. Did you leave any of your family up? - No.

Q. You was the last in bed? - I believe I was.

Q. What is your business? - A shoemaker .

Q. Did you make your house fast yourself? - Yes. I heard nothing till the morning when I got up, about six o'clock, I found the shutters broke open and the windows broke, and the shoes taken out of the window.

Q. Were the shutters in side or outside - Outside.

Q. And the shoes were inside of the window? - Yes.

Q. What quantity did you miss? -Fourteen pair of men's shoes, ten pair of childrens shoes, four pair of womens shoes, and two odd womens shoes, and one pair of morocco half boots. I found them all again in Mr. Dotchings's house the next morning. There was a woman that heard the window broke.


I live in Bainbridge-street, St. Giles's, keep a chandler shop. On the 17th of September, about nine o'clock, I happened to have business in the two pair of stairs back room, with a lodger; one of these two prisoners, the tall one (Oyens) came out of the front room with a bundle in his hand, and another with him.

Q. The other was not the other prisoner? - I don't know that; I cannot swear to him. There was a short man came out with a bundle under his arm, and he and the short man seeing me he ran off and made his escape over some rails, and he dropped the bundle, and I picked up the bundle which contained the shoes.

Q. Did you secure either of these two men at that time? - No, I did not.

Q. How soon after were they taken; - It was some time after. Colson was taken first, and I could not swear to him, but Ovens I am certain of.

Prisoner Oyens. Can you swear that you saw me get over the pales - I can.

Prisoner Oyens. I can swear that I was on the stairs, and can prove what I did on the stairs.

JOHN LANE sworn.

Q. You are the constable? - Yes.

Q. Who delivered these shoes to you? - When I first see them they were at Mr. Dotchings's house.(Produced.) Prosecutor. The shoes are all mine.

Q. To Datchings. Are those the shoes that you picked up? - To the best of my knowledge they are. There is a pair of half boots that I wrote my name in.


I know nothing of the robbery; I had an information that this Oyens was the person; he was brought up to Bow-street for another offence. I took him afterwards to Marlborough-street, and there the people came forward and swore to him.

Prisoner Oyens. That morning I went up to speak to one Sal Mitchel , and I saw a man in concern with this girl, and so I came down again. The prosecutor lets out rooms to girl of the town; and this gentleman followed me.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-9

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472. NATHANIEL VICKERS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 5th of October , fifty nine yards of silk ribbon, value 15s. the goods of James Church , privily from his shop .


I was not in the shop when this affair happened.


Q. Does your husband keep a shop? - I keep the shop in Whitechapel , a haberdasher's.

Q. Do you know the prisoner at the bar? - Yes.

Q. Do you remember his coming to the shop? - I was not in the shop when he came in; I was called down; I was up stairs, I was called down stairs by Louisa Bennett , and when I came down she had hold of the prisoner.


Q. You was in the shop? - Yes.

Q. Do you belong to the shop? - I live with Mrs. Church.

Q. Do you take care of the shop? - Yes.

Q. Do you remember the prisoner at the bar coming in at any time? - Yes.

Q. When was it? - The fifth of October.

Q. What did he say his errand was? -He came in to buy some ribbons.

Q. Did you shew him some ribbons? - Yes.

Q. How many parcels did he look at? - I shewed him one drawer full; I was serving him some ribbon; I was going to cut him off three yards, and I looked at him, and he had a blue sash ribbon in his hand, he was rolling of it up in a silk handkerchief that he had in his hand.

Q. He did not do that privately; you see him? - I see him.

Q. It was directly full in your face? - It was. I told him he had a blue sash ribbon in his hand; he said it had just caught hold of his finger nail; I told him if he had got that he had got more; and he turned away from the counter to go away; he put the blue sash ribbon down. I ran and caught hold of him.

Q. Did you stop him? - Yes.

Q. Did you call any body to your assistance? - Yes.

Q. Was he searched in your presence? - Yes.

Q. What was found on him? - Three rolls of ribbon.

Q. You did not see him take the three rolls? - No.

Q. Did he say how he came by them? What account did he give of them? - He did not deny that he took them.

Q. Who was in the shop besides you? - Nobody.


Q. Are you a servant to the prosecutor? - No, I keep a broker's shop next door.

Q. Did you hear the outcry? - Yes, I did, by the girl, and I took the prisoner just as he was on the step, outside of the door.

Q. Did you search him? - I put my hand into his pocket and felt three pieces of ribbon, but did not take them from him.

Q. Did you see him searched afterwards? - I was not present at the time; I went to take care of my own shop, but I felt three pieces of ribbon, as I supposed, in his left hand pocket.

Q. To Mrs. Church. Did you see the prisoner searched? - I was called down, and the prisoner put his hand into his pocket and raised the pieces of ribbon up, and I took them out of his hand; he said that he had taken them, that it was the first time, and he would not do the like again.

Q. Have you got them here? - Yes.

Q. Are they your property? - Yes; they have my own marks.

Q. What is the price of them? - The value of them is fifteen shillings, they cost me that.

Prisoner. There was no mark on them.

Court to Prosecutor. Is there your mark on the ribbon? - There is.


I am a dealer in coals; I have known the prisoner seven years; he has followed the sea since I knew him; after he came from sea, he came to me and I wanted a person to carry out coals; he has been with me within these five months; it is not above five months since he left me; he left me with an intent to better himself, to learn a business, an iron-plate worker; him and his master did not agree about being articled, and he went away from there, and what became of him afterwards I cannot say, until I heard from his mother that he was here in confinement.

GUILTY . Death . (Aged 20.)

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-10
VerdictNot Guilty

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479. LEWIS GOLDEN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 26th of September , a set of harrateen bed

furniture, value 10s. 6d. the goods of William Hamilton , the elder , and William Hamilton , the younger.


I am in business with my uncle, manufacturers of sal armoniac .

Q. Did you lose any bed furniture? - Yes; green harrateens the set was not quite complete, there was a head piece wanting.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-11
SentenceImprisonment > house of correction; Miscellaneous > fine

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480. ELIZABETH GRAY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 25th of September , five mens linen shirts, value 1l. 10s. five linen napkins, value 6d. a linen table cloth, value 3s. a black silk petticoat, value 1s. a linen pillow case, value 6d. a muslin handkerchief, value 6d. the goods of William Shaftoe , Esq .


Q. You lost some linen. Do you know when it was? - I came to the knowledge of the robbery by mere accident, by an advertisement in the paper, of things marked with my name being stopped.


The goods were brought to my shop to he pledged, the 25th of September.

Q. Are you a pawnbroker? - I am.

Q. Who brought the things? - The prisoner at the bar. She went with me From my shop to the office; I went with her and took the goods, a table cloth, five shirts, and five napkins, I believe.

Q. Did she bring them as her own? - Yes. I had been out the same evening, I came home about seven o'clock; she was in the shop, my servant was asking her some questions concerning them being her property, and I came into the shop and asked her several questions myself; she said they were her own.

Q. You stopped her? - I did. Then she said they belonged to her husband, and afterwards to her brother; I said she should go before a magistrate. (Produced.)

Q. To Prosecutor. Had she lived in your service? - Yes, three months, as house maid; she had left it on the 25th of September, on that day; they have every appearance of being mine, I did not know that there were such things lost till I had seen the advertisement, and had seen the things.

Mr. Knowlys. You only judge from the appearance that they were similar, to some that you have? - Yes.

Q. I dare say being on your oath you will not say positively. I believe with respect to the woman at the bar, you had a very excellent character with her? - Yes, a very good one, and she behaved extremely well in my service.

Q. I take it for granted you don't mark your linen yourself, it is done by somebody else.


Q. You live with Mr. Shaftoe? - Yes.

Q. Do you happen to know any of the things that are produced there? - Yes, they are my master's, I am perfectly sure.

Q. What have you got in your hand, some more of the same?

Mr. Knowlys. You would not know them without compairing them with something that you have brought with you? - Yes, by the name at full length.


When the prisoner was brought to the office I searched her, and found these pair of silk stockings in her pocket.

Q. To Topping. Are they your master's property? - They are.

- sworn.

Mr. Shaftoe applied to the office in consequence of an advertisement he saw in the newspapers; I went with him to Mr. Gough's, he see the things, and said they were his; he likewise said he should like to see the prisoner, I went with him to the prison, and he said it was a servant of his; I asked her where her boxes were? she said at the Pewter Platter, in Grace-church-street; we went there and searched the boxes, in sight of Mr. Shaftoe, and found there a black satin petticoat and pillow case, and one muslin handkerchief, and one large shawl,

Mrs. Topping. They are all my master's.

Q. To Prosecutor. You said you had a very good character with her; did you discharge her, or did she leave you? - I discharged her.

The prisoner called eight witnesses who gave her a good character.

GUILTY . (Aged 31.)

Imprisoned six months in the House of Correction and fined 1s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-12

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481. WINNIFRED ARMKIN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 4th of October , a cotton window curtain, value 6s. a linen sheet, value 3s. a linen handkerchief, value 1s. five yards and a half of cotton, value 5s. a pair of plated candlesticks, value 7s. a linen waistcoat, value 3s. a pair of silver shoe buckles, value 6s. two pair of thread stockings, value 7s. a pair of cotton stockings, value 1s. a pair of silk stockings, value 1s. 6d. a linen shirt, value 3s. a linen sheet, value 8d. ditto, value 6d. ditto, value 3s. a pair of cotton stockings, value 2s. one other linen sheet, value 3s. 6d. ditto, value 3s. a set of cotton bed valances, value 8s. a silver tea spoon, value 1s. a cotton bed curtain, value 8s. ditto value 8s. ditto, value 8s. two others ditto, 6s. two yards of linen, value 1s. one other cotton bed curtain, value 7s. 6d. ditto, value 4s. a cotton curtain, value 4s. ditto, value 5s. ditto, value 5s. two others, value 4s. one other, value 3s. two linen table cloths, value 10s. a linen shirt, value 5s. a silver tea spoon, value 2s. a linen shirt, value 5s. a silver tea spoon, value 2s. two linen shirts, value 7s. ditto, value 6s. ditto, value 2s. a linnen table cloth, value 8s. ditto, value 2s. a linen napkin, value 2s, a pair of cotton stockings, value 2s. one other linen table cloth, value 8s. ditto, value 2s. a linen towel, value 6d. ditto, value 1s. 6d. a cotton curtain, value 1s. 6d. a pair of thread stockings, value 1s. another linen towel; value 1s. a linen waistcoat, value 1s. 6d. two linen table cloths, value 2s. 6d. ditto, value 3s. a cloth coat, value 9s. a linen shirt, value 5s. ditto, value 4s. a stuff manchester window curtain, value 6s. another linen shirt, value 4s. another linen sheet, value 3s. twenty yards of linen for sheets, value 10s. 6d. two pair of silk stockings, value 4s. a linen handkerchief, value 1s. a cotton curtain, value 1s. 6d. and another pair of linen sheets, value 6s. the goods of Ebenezer Brathwaite .


I am an officer of the city of London; the prisoner was servant to Mr. Brathwaite; I took the prisoner into custody, and found part of the property on her, that belonged to Mr. Brathwaite, and she confessed to the robbery at the time that I apprehended her.


Q. What servant was the prisoner? -

A housekeeper , I keep a shop in Cheapside .

Q. These articles in the indictment, were they missed at one time, or at different times? - I never missed them at all, except the spoons; when I missed the spoons I charged her with it, and gave her in charge with the constable.

Q. Where was she when you found them on her? - She was in the kitchen, dressing some victuals for dinner; the officer, Lawrence, searched her in my presence, and I see the spoons drop from her; Lawrence took them into his possession.

Q. When you missed the spoons did you send for Lawrence? - I went to my Lord Mayor, and he ordered Lawrence to come with me.

Q. Was there any thing else that you missed? - Not then; but there was a bag with a matter of a hundred pawnbrokers duplicates, found on her, but only eighty concerned me.

Q. How long had she been in your service? - About eight months.

Q. Had you any character with her? - Yes, a written character.

Q. Did you take her on that character? - Yes, but I have known her these twenty years, she was a mantua maker formerly.

Prisoner. I did not pledge the things, but with an intent to take them out again, and part of the things are my own.

Court to Lawrence. You went by desire of the Lord Mayor, to the house of Mr. Brathwaite? - Yes, I went with Mr. Brathwaite.

Q. You was ordered to search her, I suppose? - Yes, and I did, I took these two silver tea spoons out of her pocket, and a single duplicate, which was hardly dry, a duplicate of a coat of Mr. Brathwaite's; while I was searching her she shoved about very much, and she dropped this bag of duplicates on my right to it, there is about a hundred of them.

Q. Have you kept those duplicates ever since, and the two spoons? - Yes; as soon as I found these duplicates she confessed that they were all her master's property, or a great part of them, and that she meant to take them out of pawn, and begged his pardon.

Q. Had you recommended her to do so? - No, I had not.

Q. Had you told her it would be better for her to do it? - Not a word.

Q. Have you traced any of the property? - Yes, the pawnbrokers are here, their duplicates answer to theft.

Prisoner. At the time that the officer came to me, I was taking up my dinner; he has got two little boxes of mine, and my silver thimble, and at the same time he did not find the tickets in my pocket, he shook them out of my pocket.

Lawrence. Those things were left at Mr. Brathwaite's, being of no consequence.

Prisoner. He did not find any thing on me but the two tea spoons.


I produce seven different articles, which I took in of the prisoner, and three others that the apprentice took in; I took in on the 16th of April, a pair of buckles for six shillings; the 20th of May, a shirt and handkerchief for four shillings, the handkerchief is not Mr. Brathwaite's; on the 23d of May, a cotton window curtain for six shillings; and on the 17th of July a pocket handkerchief for a shilling; the 22d of August, a pair of plated candlesticks for seven shillings; the 11th of September a pair of stockings for eighteen-pence; the 3d of October three pair of stockings for two shillings; the other three articles I did not take in.

Q. Have you ever looked among the duplicates to see whether there were any that coresponded with what the boy took in? - There are.

Q. In whose hand writing are they? - In the boy's, I can swear to his hand writing.


I am a pawnbroker's servant.

Court to Batt. In the mean time see if I awrence can give you any duplicates, if he can give you any duplicates that correspond to all the property that she delivered herself to you.

Q. To Howgill. What is it you produce? - Cotton bed curtains; I dare say there are a dozen; five sheets, eight shirts, three table cloths.

Q. Were all the things that you produce pawned by the prisoner? - Yes; three silver tea spoons, two pair of stockings, a pillow, a bed valance.

Q. You gave her duplicates? - Yes.

Batt. I have found all seven duplicates in my hand writing, and the three of the lad's.

Q. Now look at your's, Howgill? - These are them.

Q. In whose hand writing are they, your's or your master's? - They are mine mostly.

ANN CHARD sworn.

I do not live in Mr. Brathwaite's family, my husband did.

Q. Did you ever make any shirts for Mr. Brathwaite? - Yes, I can speak to more than one, I have worked for Mrs. Brathwaite for upwards of these twelve years; they are in general marked E.B. and I know my work, I know the bed curtains, the sheet, and table cloth.

Court. I shall not call the other pawnbrokers, as nothing turns on the value of the things.

Court to Prosecutor. I see here is a pair of candlesticks and a silver tea spoon, perhaps you can speak to them yourself? - I believe the candlesticks to be mine, the spoons are all marked.

Prisoner. I do not know what to say, there is a great many of my own this is amongst them; I did not expect the bill would be filed against me, I thought every thing was settled this morning; I thought things were settled without coming here, or else if you please to give me time I can have plenty of witnesses to morrow.

GUILTY . (Aged 21.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-13
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation
SentenceImprisonment > newgate; Miscellaneous > fine

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482. JAMES GILLETT was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 20th of October , one pound fifteen ounzes weight of sugar, value 10d. the goods of the East India Company .(The case opened by Mr. Knapp.)


Q. You are a labourer employed in the companies warehouses? - Yes.

Q. Do you know the defendant? - Yes, he was a labourer there. On the 20th of October, going through the warehouses, at the request of the elders, to intercept any felony of the kind; I discovered several bags of sugar cut open and plundered of a considerable quantity, accordingly I acquainted the elders of it, they desired me to watch, accordingly I did, on a pile of sugars, and I see the prisoner at the bar come to a bag, No. 848, and took the sugar out which I have in my possession; I then see him take it out of a bag, and put it into a handkerchief, he was then coming out of that warehouse, and going into another, and I followed him and caught him by the collar, and said, you have been thieving of sugar; I struggled with him for a minute, however I held him too fast, and he said if I

would let him go he would give me any thing, I told him then as I had been employed on that business, if he had been my father I would not let him go; I kept fast hold of him, and took him to the counting house.

Q. Who was in the counting house? - A Mr. Vaughan, an elder there; when I took him to the counting house I sent for a revenue officer to come and search him, but before the officer came to search the prisoner, he took the property out of his pocket, and he gave it into my hand.

Q. Did he say any thing at the time that he gave it you? - He said it was the first time he was ever guilty of the like, and he did not know what the devil possessed him. He was then taken by the constable to the counter, and before the Lord Mayor. This is the same sugar that he gave me, tied up in his own handkerchief, inside of the paper; I cannot tell the value of the property, there has not been any sold under sixpence or eight pence a pound.

Q. What is the quantity that is there? - One pound and fifteen ounces, I think.

Q. You were present before my Lord Mayor, and he was committed? - I was; he pleaded when he was before the Lord Mayor, that he had got the gripes, and that he took it to sweeten a little beer with.

Court. Was the examination taken in writing? - Yes, I think it was.

Mr. Alley. You told this man when he asked you to let him go, that if he was your father you would not; you wanted to get a guinea? - I cannot say as to that, I believe the honourable East India company would reward every man according to their merits, I can say that this is the sixth man that I have taken, and been the cause of taking, and I have had but one guinea yet.

Q. Is it not usual to give a guinea for every man that is apprehended? - At times it is.

Q. Is it understood so amongst you? - I don't know, it is not understood so by me.

Q. How long is it since you have had a sale of the East India company? - I think it was about three months.

Q. Will you venture to swear that this sugar was not sold? - I will, nor never a bit of sugar in that cellar.

Mr. Knapp. Whether there had been a sale there or not, are you sure that you see the prisoner at the bar take it out of the bag? - I am; and after it was lodged in the hands of the constable, I had the curiosity to weigh that bag, and it weighed eight pounds deficient of the landing weight.


I am deputy elder of the warehouse; it is my duty to see that every man is at his station, and to take account of goods to prevent as much as possible any embezzlement; going round a corner I found a deal of plunder out of a bag, 848; I immediately went up to the counting house and mentioned it, it was there that we agreed to place a trusty person to watch, and Rickman was the person pitched upon.

Q. Have you seen the sugar? - I have.

Q. What did it weigh? - One pound fifteen ownccs; it was weighed at a grocer's near the warehouse. I compared it with the bag 848, and it appeared to be the same quality, and there was eight pounds efficient in that bag.

Mr. Alley. Is it usual for these men to be searched when they are coming out? - They are. But this man was taken between three and four o'clock in the afternoon.

Q. Did not this man say that he had picked up this property in this place? - I never heard it.

Prisoner. The sugar laid all abroad, and I picked the sugar up to carry it to the counting house, and going through the

warehouse the man stopped me, because the bag lay in such a state; the bag lay tore all to pieces almost.

The prisoner called six witnesses who gave him very good character.

GUILTY. (Aged 34.)

Recommended to mercy by the jury on account of his good character .

Imprisoned six months in Newgate and fined 1s.

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-14
SentenceImprisonment > newgate; Miscellaneous > fine

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483. SARAH DOWNE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 25th of October , three quart pawter pots, value 2s. and a pewter pint pot, value 6d. the goods of Richard Deeme .


I keep the Rainbow, in Fleet street . On Sunday night last, between five and six o'clock, the lad brought the prisoner back with the pots.

Q. Were you at home? - Yes.

Q. Was any thing brought back besides the woman? - Yes, three quarts and a pint pot.


I am servant at the Rainbow. On Sunday evening, about half past five o'clock, I put them three pots the corner of Chancery-lane, while I went into a house, a patten shop, close by, and I went up two pair of stairs; whilst I was up, I heard the pots rattle, and when I came down I enquired for the pots; I was looking about for them, and a tall man came up, and I asked him if he knew any thing of them, and he said he saw a woman with them; says he, follow me; and I went with him up Bell-yard and across Clement's-lane.

Q. Where did you first see her? - In Fleet-street.

Q. Did you stop her? - Yes, and she had the pots under her apron; she laid the pots down and begged I would let her go; I told her I would not, I would take her to my master, and he might do as he liked; and as I came by Chancery lane she pointed to the place where she took them from. The pots have been locked up ever since.(Produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. I have no friends to speak for me, nobody at all; but many things that he has said is very false, many words.

GUILTY . (Aged 29.)

Imprisoned six months in Newgate , and fined 1s.

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-15
SentenceImprisonment > newgate; Miscellaneous > fine

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484. JOHN THOMAS and JOSEPH CLIFTON were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 20th of October , a pound weight of lump sugar, value 1s. three pounds weight of ground sugar, called bastard sugar, value 2s. the goods of Joseph Stevenson and Nathaniel Fenn .


Q. Do you live with Mr. Stevenson? - I did.

Q. Who are the partners in the house? - Joseph Stevenson and Nathaniel Fenn, grocers and tea dealers .

Q. Do you know of their having lost any sugar? - I don't know as to their having lost it, but of the porters intending to have taken it away. We had a little

suspicion of them, and seeing some sugar hid in a tub, I thought I would watch, and I see the porters come and take some pieces out of a tub, the 20th of October, half past seven at night; I see John Thomas take some lumps of sugar out of the cask and put them underneath his waistcoat, in his bosom; and afterwards Joseph Clifton took a bag of sugar, the bag was in an empty cask, he put the bag of sugar underneath his frock; after that he altered it, not finding it right, clapping it down not to make it so very large; the one then said to the other, we had better break a lump of sugar that lays in the tub, because they could not carry it without being detected.

Q. What were the two prisoners? - Two porters.

Q. Where were you when you heard all this? - I was laid on a shelf in the lump room; they did not see me. As soon as they had done it, they came under the shelf where I was laid, and I came down and took hold of them both. This is the sugar; I see them take it.

Q. That is the only ground for its being your master's? - It is so.

Q. What sort of sugar do you call it? - About one pounds of lump sugar, and three pounds of bastard sugar or ground sugar.

Mr. Knapp. I take it for granted the sugar is not in the same state as it was then? - The lump sugar is, but not the ground.

Q. You told my lord that you was on the shelf, where was this shelf? - Over the door, about two yards and a half from the ground or thereabouts.

Q. They could not see you? - I believe they did not see me.

Q. There was not much light in the warehouse? - There was a candle about ten yards from where I was; that was the only candle in the warehouse.

Q. Then you wish the jury to understand that you were almost three yards from the ground, and they did not see you, and you was able to see what past, and there was no candle within ten yards distance? - Exactly so.

Q. You do not mean to swear to the sugar? - No, I do not.

Q. The lump sugar has been put in paper by you since? - It has.

Q. There is no sleeping partner in this house, is there? - No. It was Stevenson, Hewson, and Fenn, but Hewson is dead.

Q. Do you mean to swear that there may be no other partner though he may not appear in the firm? - No, I cannot.


I know nothing at all of the circumstance; but would with the witness should relate the circumstances of the bag that was found when he was stripped.

The prisoner Thomas called two witnesses and the prisoner Cliston one, who gave them good characters.

John Thomas , GUILTY . (Aged 27.) John Clifton, GUILTY. (Aged 38.) Imprisoned six months in Newgate , and fined 1s.

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-16

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485. HENRY HESLING was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 22d of September , forty-two case quart bottles filled with wine, value 2l. 10s. a green cloth table cover, value 4s. six linen knife cloths, value 1s. 6d. five pounds weight oi[Text unreadable in original.]candles, value 3s. the goods of Edward Railton .(The case opened by Mr. Raine.) EDWARD RAILTON sworn.

Q. You are an hop merchant in the Borough ; when did the prisoner at the

bar come into your service? - I believe the 15th of September, as my footman .

Q. How long was he in your service? - A week.

Q. In consequence of some information, which I must not hear from you, I believe you searched your cellar? - I did.

Q. What did you miss? - I am not in the habit of going frequently to my collar, but my clerk did; but it was appartment that wine had been moved; I suppose I do not go into the cellar three times in a twelve-month.

Court. Then if you had not received any information on the subject, you would not have found any thing miss in your cellar? - Not excepting I had gone in.

Q. Then after going in, could you miss it? - Certainly I knew the quantity of wine that was put up, and what was consumed.

Q. In consequence of this, did you go to the public office? - I did.

Q. Was it the first time you went to the cellar, or the second that you particularly looked at the bricks? - The second time. He told me of it himself, or it was not perceivable.

Q. What was produced at the public office when you found the prisoner in custody? - A green cloth.

Q. How did you know that to be your's? - I bought it and paid for it; it is here.

Q. In consequence of something that passed as to a confession, which we shall hear presently, did you examine your cellar a second time? - I did.

Mr. Knapp. I understand that you had not been in your cellar for above three months before? - Really I cannot exactly say. I do not frequently go into the cellar.

Q. The consumption, when you did go into the cellar, seemed to have been very great? - Much diminished.

Q. Had you a servant before this man left your service? - Yes.

Q. Did you go down into your cellar the week before, when the prisoner came into your service? - I did not.

Q. You say this green cloth you bought it and paid for it? - I did.

Q. That is a practice that we should expect you are in the habit of, of course.


Q. On the 22d of september you apprehended the prisoner at the bar? - Yes, I did, in Petticoat-lane, Whitechapel, the right hand side, at No. 134; Thomas Burrows, he keeps a shop where people sell old bottles; on the prisoner I found eighteen bottles of wine.

Q. Did he say any thing to you at the time that you took him? - Yes, he did.

Mr. Knapp. You are going to tell us something that the prisoner said. You are an officer? - No, I am not; I was an officer.

Q. What did you say to him before he said any thing to you? - Did not you tell him it would be better for him to confess and tell the truth? - Nothing like it.

Q. Did not you tell him that you should certainly take him up, unless he told you the truth? - No, nothing like that.

Mr. Raine. Now go on with your story. - When I took him at the door I asked him what he had got there? I see him with something that I suspected was not right by his knocking there; the bundle was set down on the ground, and he was looking up at the window, and I said, now, what have you got here, John? I called him by the name of John. Says he, I have got some bottles of wine, and I did not come honestly by them; says I, you must go along with me to the office. In the course of a quarter of a mile, going along, he begged of me to let him go; I told him I should not. It was between five and six in the morning. (When I see him first I see him at Aldgate, before he came to Petticoat-lane.) I took him to a public

house near the office, and he begged I would let him go, and he offered me money; I told him I would not. Then he begged me to let him go to his master; I told him I had no objection going to his master; I asked him where he lived? he said, he lived in Broad-street; I said, it is a very round about way to come from Board-street where I see you; and then he said, his master was a hop merchant, of the name of Railton, and lived in the Borough, and said, that his master was a hasty man, and he had known servants steal spoons and other things, and he had no doubt but he would look over it. I went with the prisoner to Mr. Railton's house, and Mr. Railton was not at home, and I left word for Mr. Railton to be at the office at twelve o'clock; and I spoke to Mr. Railton before he came into the office, and told him the door the prisoner knocked at, and whether he thought it proper to have a search warrant to search the house, for a man was passing by at the time that I stopped the man, and said, that he see some man at the door the morning before.

Q. What past at the office? Were you by at the examination? - I was not.

Mr. Knapp. I was wrong in stating you to be an officer of the police. How long before this had you been one? - About a week before.

Q. What office did you belong to? - Whitechapel.

Q. How came you to be dismissed from the office? - I was not dismissed; I dismissed myself.

Q. How long had you been an officer? - Two years and a half.

Q. Then you was not dismissed for any ground of complaint that was alledged against you? - If this is a fair question I will resolve you. There might be grounds of complaint. I dismissed myself.

Q. How came you to dismiss yourself? - Taking half a guinea of a black man going on board a ship.

Q. Did you ever get your dismission from the office? - I did not.

Q. Did you ever go to the office afterwards? - I have.

Q. What for? - For business; to apprehend such men as this at the bar.

Q. Any little snug informations in which you go snacks? - No.

Q. You happened to know that man before? - Yes.

Q. Did not he know that you belonged to the police office? - Not to my knowledge.

Q. On your oath, did not he know that you was an officer? Or what do you call yourself? - No. A thief-taker you may call me.

Q. He told you that he had some bottles of wine, and had not come honestly by them. Did not you tell him that if he gave up the receiver there should be an and of it? - I did not, nor a word about the receiver. I asked him what house it was he went to? he said it was a countryman of his, but what his name was he did not know.

Q. He said that he lived at Mr. Railton's, hop merchant, over the bridge? - Yes, he did; but before that he said he lived in Broad-street.

Q. Railton was his master? - Yes.

Q. Then he told you where his master lived? - Yes, he did.


Q. You was clerk in the office where this man was examined? - Yes He said when he came there, that he had done wrong, and was very sorry for it, and that he would wish to tell the truth. The magistrate told him if he did tell the truth it would be taken down in writing, and given in evidence against him on his trial.(The examination read.)

" Henry Reynett , one of his majesty's justices of the peace for the county of Middlesex.

The voluntary confession of Henry Hesling , taken before him, September 22, 1795. Who faith, I have lived with Mr. Railton about a week, in the capacity of a footman; I have known Mr. Burrow about twelve months; I see him about a week ago; he knew I was a gentleman's servant, he said, if I could get any thing he would purchase it; he mentioned candles, &c. On Friday or Saturday morning last, I carried him about a dozen bottles of white and red wine; which he agreed to give me a shilling a bottle for; I took the wine out of my master, Mr. Railton's cellar, at his house in the Borough. It was about half after six in the morning when I took the wine to Burrow; he said, is this all you have brought? I told him, yes; he said, then I will pay you when you bring some more. He said, as you live in a gentleman's house, you may get me a few candles. I took some out of my master's house; he agreed to give sixpence a pound for them; he told me to get more red wine than white, that he could sell it better. The night before last I carried him about a dozen of red and white wine, which I took from my master's cellar; he said, I shall not stand to pay you now, I will pay you when you come again. This morning I was going again to his house, with eighteen bottles that I took out of my master's cellar; I was stopped by the officer in Aldgate, who spoke to me; he passed me, and I went on; he came up to me again as I was at Burrow's door, and took me into custody. Burrow told me when I came to knock at the door, I had no occasion to call. I took the linen cloths out of my master's pantry to keep the bottles from breaking, also the the green cloth; but I meant to take them back again; I never took any thing else. I did not see any marks on the corks or bottles.

Taken and signed, September 22, 1799."

Mr. Knapp to Thompson. Taplin had brought this man to the office? - Yes.

Q. And therefore all this passed after the conversation between him and Taplin? - Yes.

Q. Did the prisoner at the bar seem agitated when he made this confession? - Yes, he appeared agitated the whole time.

Prosecutor. That afternoon that I went to the office, I told him that he must have a pick lock to open the cellar door; he told me that he had not, that he had taken the bricks out by the cellar and got in there, which I found to be the case.

Q. Did you find that a sufficient quantity had been removed so as to admit a person? - So the officer said.

Mr. Knapp. This breach in the wall you had not observed before that time? - Certainly not.

Q. This was at the magistrate's that he told you this? - It was.

Q. Then it was after the conversation that had passed between Taplin and him? - It was.

Q. I would ask you whether he seemed alarmed and agitated? - Very much so. He cried and said, it was Burrow, the receiver that brought him to that. I can swear to the cloth myself.

Prisoner. The officer told me that if I spoke the truth and nothing but the truth, I should not be hurt.

The prisoner called his former master to his character.

GUILTY . (Aged 35.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-17
VerdictNot Guilty

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486. SAMUEL HILL , JAMES CLARKE , and JOHN HAMNELL were indicted for feloniously making an

assault on the King's highway, on John Bengoe , on the 25th of September , putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person and against his will, two geldings, price 6l. a canvas smock frock, value 8s. two hempen halters, value 8d. and five guineas and fourteen shillings; the goods chattels and monies of the said John Bengoe .


I am a publican, and a dealer in cows and horses, and hogs . On the 25th of September I was coming from Uxbridge fair, with three horses, riding one and leading two; about two hundred yards out of Uxbridge town I was stopped by the three prisoners, and one more, which was four, who demanded my money, and I rather refused, and then they knocked me off my horse, then they took from me five guineas in gold, and fourteen shillings in silver, and two horses out of the three, and my smock frock; they took the two horses which I was leading, which I bought at Uxbridge.

Q. While you were doing this you say you was knocked off your horse, did you lose your senses? - I was rather stunned, but not long.

Q. Then you knew what was going on? - I did.

Q. What time of the day was it? -Between eight and nine o'clock at night; it was moon light, new Michaelmas night. With that they left me, and took two horses away, and left one, and I rode towards home.

Q. Which way did they go? - They seemed to stand still.

Q. Do you mean riding towards London? - Towards London; they stood still at the time, but I see them mount one of my horses, and ride after me, after I had got some distance from them, but I rode away, and see nothing further of them, but came home.

Q. Had you a saddle or bridle to them? - I had two new halters to the horse I had lost; I bought them at Uxbridge fair, and had them booked there.

Q. Were you well mounted? - Very well mounted, but seeing four of them I rode away from them, and made the best of my way home.

Q. How long might this take up? - About five minutes, or not so much, I cannot pretend to say to a minute.

Q. Did you see either of them before? - I see all four as I came out of the town, but had no suspicion of them being thieves when I passed the Fountain, I see nothing of them again till they jumped out of the path and stopped me; I had seen them in the town all day.

Q. Were they armed? - One had a pistol, and the others appeared to me to have sticks. I cannot be positive whether it was sticks or pistols, but one I am positive had a pistol.

Q. When were they taken up? - Three days after the robbery, I went down to Uxbridge to enquire whether any body had seen any thing of my horses, thinking they would have dropped them on the road, and I had them cried at Uxbridge; I found one of my horses turned into the field loose, at Uxbridge, the publican of the Fountain went with me and shewed it me, which I gave him five shillings for, what I had cried I would give; this was on Tuesday; on the Monday following I was going to Hounslow fair, going through Brentford I saw two of them, Clarke and Hill, and one of them was riding my horse, going to sell it, and the other was on their own, or somebody else; with that they bearing of me coming, they gallopped away as fast as they could, and they found that I close pursued them, and they rode by the side of a blacksmith's shop, and there they got off the horse; when I came up I asks them who owns this horse, I catched hold of the horse,

Clarke says, I don't own it, this owns it; and Hill rather faltered in his speech, and turning pale, said, I own it; he was dismounted then; I then said it was my horse, and he was the man that robbed me of it; so with that he cried, and wished not to go before the justice, I said I would insist on his going before a justice, and I would not have my horse without going before a justice; then they pulled out some gold.

Q. Did you stop Clarke, or might he have got away? - I would not let them go; there were some other people came up; they were both stopped, and went before a justice, and committed for that night to the watch house; the next day I was ordered to come up to Brentford again, and I went, and this other man, Hamnell, came to speak in behalf of Clarke and Hill, to give them a character.

Q. That was the first time you had seen him since the robbery? - Yes. Then he was committed with the other; there were two more come to give them a character, which I think I knew one of them, but I could not positively swear.

Mr. Knapp. What is your name? -John Bengoe.

Q. How long have you been Bengoe? - Ever since I was born.

Q. Has it not been Benjoe sometimes? - No, Bengoe.

Q. This is the first time you have ever been in a court of justice? - I cannot say that, I was once in a court of justice before; this is the first time I ever apprehended a thief.

Q. Where were you in a court of justice before? - At Kingston; I dare say you know, Mr. Shepherd.

Q. I have not the honour of being Mr. Shepherd; what did they say you had been guilty of there; what was you tried for there? - On suspicion of my house being on fire.

Q. Were you indicted by the name of Bengoe then? - Yes, by the name of Bengoe.

Q. You lived at Battersea before that? - I was born there, I live there now.

Q. You don't live in the neighbourhood of Uxbridge? - I do not.

Q. This was about two hundred yards from Uxbridge town, and a very light night? - It was about two hundred yards from the Fountain, between that house and the half way house.

Q. You did not go back to Uxbridge? - I did not.

Q. There were plenty of people in Uxbridge for you to have made the alarm to? - I could not go by them four.

Q. You had a very good horse? - I was very well mounted.

Q. Did you give any alarm? - I did, at the next town, at Hillingdon; I could get nobody that had courage to go with me, I did not raise the town, I see nobody but the waiter and two hostlers.

Q. You told them you had been robbed? - I did, the men knew me, they did not think proper to go, because there had been so many robberies that way.

Q. Perhaps having been before a court of justice before, it may have occured to you that there is such a thing as a reward? - But I have been offered double the money by their party.

Q. But don't you know there is a reward? - There is by all account.

Q. How much reward is there on each of these mens lives? - I cannot say, I never paid any attention to it.

Q. Upon your oath did you never hear what was the reward for convicting a highway man? - There is a reward, but I don't know what.

Q. Did you ever hear what the reward was? - Not to my knowledge.

Q. Don't tell me of your knowledge, on your oath don't you know that there is a reward of forty pounds on conviction of each of these men? - Not to my know

ledge, on my oath I do not, I never heard that till justice Bond told me yesterday.

Q. Did not Mr. Bond, or somebody tell you yesterday what was the reward for the conviction of a highwayman? -He did not.

Q. Don't you know there is an hundred and twenty pounds on the conviction of these men? - I do not, nor ever heard it, not before you tell me now.

Q. What did you hear yesterday? - justice Bond told the constables that they had no business with it at all, nor need they go down to Hick's Hall, because they were not at the taking of the men, and if there was any reward I deserved it.

Q. Don't you know that if these men are convicted, they are liable to be hanged on your evidence? - Yes, and I think they thoroughly deserve it. At first I was not bound over it was thought that some other gentleman would prosecute, and the gentleman did not come forward, and justice Bond sent over to me, to come to be bound over to prosecute.


I keep the King's Arms, at Hounslow, I know all the prisoners by sight, I have known Hill five or six years; New Michaelmas day they were at my house, on the 29th of September; I imagine, as nigh as I can guess, it was about five o'clock in the afternoon.

Q. How long did they stay in your house? - I really believe till seven or after, and then I set them off from my own door, that is all I know about it.

Q. You have known Hill for four or five years; what has been his character? - I never knew any harm of him, whenever he came to my house he always paid for what he had of me.

Q. How for is Hounslow from Uxbridge? - We call it nine miles.

Court. Were these three alone, or any body with them? - Nobody with them but themselves.


Q. Do you know the prisoners at the bar? - I know them all.

Q. Do you remember seein them on New Michaelmas day? - Yes, between six and seven I see them at the Nags Head, at Hounslow, in the yard; I sold them an old blind horse to put into the chaise.

Q. How late did you see them there that evening? - I believe it might be about a quarter to seven. The horse they bought was lame that it would not go above four miles an hour; I sold it them for two and twenty shillings, he could not be a capital horse; I was four hours making him go ten miles.


Q. Do you know the prisoners? - Yes. I know them all.

Q. Where do you live? - At the Rose and Crown, in Smarlborough-green, about a mile and a quarter this side Hounslow.

Q. Do you remember seeing the prisoners on New Michaelmas day? - Yes; about half past seven they stopped at our door, they took a horse out, and put a fresh one to a one horse chase, and the clock struck eight just after they went.


I am a horse keeper at Brentford; on New Michaelmas day, I cannot say whether they are the same men that I seen at Brentford, that evening, but there was a man stood in a one horse chaise, enquiring where he might buy a whip.

Q. What time in the evening might this be? - I look on it very near a quarter after eight.

Q. Were there three men? - Yes, one in a chaise and two on horseback.


I am a harness maker at Brentford, I can say that I know the prisoners by their

coming to me at Brentford; I see them at Brentford when they were taken.

Q. Had they been with you on New Michaelman day at Brentford? - Yes, about half past eight, as nigh as I can guess, they called for a whip, and when I came to the door they went away, and I ran over and fetched two whips, they said they were not heavy enough.

Q. Do you believe it to be the prisoners at the bar? - I do believe it was one of them by his voice, and by the words he repeated to me the day he was taken.


Q. Do you know the prisoners? - Yes.

Q. Did you see them on New Michaelmas day? - Certainly I did, between ten and eleven o'clock at night, at my own habitation; I live in Sea Coal-lane.

All three Not GUILTY .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron THOMPSON.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-18
SentenceImprisonment > house of correction; Miscellaneous > fine

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487. ANN KNIGHT was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 20th of September , thirty yards of thread lace, value 15s. and five yards of silk ribbon, value 1s. 6d. the goods of Thomas Boswell .


I am a shop-keeper , No. 5, St. Martin's-court, Leicester-fields ; I can only prove the goods; the transaction will be stated by the witness.

HARRIOTT - sworn.

Q. Do you live in the house of Mr. Boswell's? - Yes, I am a sister.

Q. Do you assist in the shop? - Yes.

Q. Look at the prisoner; do you know that woman? - Yes. On the 19th of ceptember, between twelve and one she came into the shop, and had some ribbon at off.

Q. She bought some; did she pay for it? - Yes, after I shewed her some lace, she took a card and put it into her pocket.

Q. Did you see her do that? - Yes; I told her she had it, and she threw it on the counter.

Q. Did she take it out of her pocket again? - Yes; she ran out of doors.

Q. Did you make any alarm? - Yes.

Q. Was she stopped on your alarm? - Yes.

Q. Was she brought in again? - Yes, in about three minutes.

Q. You are sure it was the same woman that was brought in again? - Yes.

Q. Did you miss any thing besides this lace? - No.

Q. Was it thread lace? - Yes; I missed nothing else, there was some ribbon taken from her at Bow-street, in a basket which she had over her arm.

Q. How soon was that after she was brought back to you? - About half an hour after.

Q. Did you know that to belong to Mr. Boswell? - Yes.

Q. Was that ribbon in the same box with the lace? - No, it was in a different box, in another box that I was shewing to another lady.

Q. How did you know the ribbon? -By a private mark.

Q. Whose writing is that? - Mr. Boswell's.

Q. Do you recollect seeing the ribbon in the box that you were shewing to the lady? - No, but I know it was ours.

Q. Thirty yards of lace, what do you value that at? - I don't rightly know.

Q. What is the value of the ribbon? - I don't rightly know what quantity there was of it.

Mr. Knowlys. You did not know this piece of ribbon at all, but the private mark; you did not know but what this piece of ribbon might have been sold? - No.

Q. This piece of lace you see her take it, and put it in her pocket? - Yes.

Q. The moment you told her she had made a mistake, she returned it? - Yes, she did.

Court. What was done with the ribbon and lace that was taken from that woman? - I have got the lace in my pocket.

Q. What was done with the ribbon? - The constable has it.

Q. To Boswell. Were you at home at that time? - I went up stairs. That is my lace by my own mark, and I know the particular pattern.


I produce the ribbon. When I went into the shop the woman was in sits, and I got a coach and took her down to Bow-street, and the basket was down by her, and I took the basket and went to Bow-street, and I examined the basket at Bow-street, and found this ribbon in it.

Q. To Harriott -. Did the prisoner bring in a basket with her? - Yes.

Q. Was that basket taken to Bow-street? - Yes.

Q. Did you see the ribbon taken out of that basket? - Yes.

Q. To Berisford. Have you kept that ribbon till now? - Yes.

Mr. Knowlys. When you found her, I don't know whether you found her in the shop? - I found her in the shop.

Q. I believe she was very ill, in sits? - Yes, she was, and that made me very careful of her, it was as much as two of us could hold her.

Q. You did not stop her? - I did not; I was coming down the court at the time.

Boswell. It is my ribbon, there is my mark on it.

Mr. Knowlys. You cannot say that that ribbon had not been sold out of the shop? - It is impossible.

Court. Who sells in your shop besides yourself? - I have a brother that serves, but there was no possibility of bringing of him.

Q. To Harriot -. That was not the ribbon you sold the woman? - No.

Q. You are sure of that? - Yes

The prisoner called there witnesses who gave her a good character.

GUILTY . (Aged 31.)

Imprisoned six months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-19
VerdictNot Guilty

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481. RICHARD GOODHAM was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 23d of September , two quart case bottles filled with Lisbon wine, value 3s. the goods of Thomas Wigzell .


I am a wine merchant , the prisoner is a carman .

Q. Do you know any thing of the robbery yourself? - I don't.


I am a weekly servant to Mr. Wigzell; my fellow servant loaded the cart with the wine, to drive to Sloan-street, Chelsea.

Q. Did you see the cart loaded? - Yes, and helped to load it.

Q. What was it loaded with? - Port and Lisbon.

Q. Where was it loaded? - Opposite No. 32, George-street, Minories , at Mr.

Wigzell's warehouses; I went off to go to Sloan-square, and I told my fellow servant, and I would meet him at the Hay Market.

Q. Did you attend the cart? - I did not, my fellow servant did all the way, as I understand.

Q. What time of the day was this cart loaded? - About eleven o'clock in the day; I do not recollect the day of the month.

Q. Do you know the day of the week? - I do not; when we came to unload the wine at the Star and Garter, Sloan-square, in the third pickle there were two bottles of Lisbon wine wanting, my partner said so.

Q. Was that in the hearing of the man that he said so? - Yes, he was there, he helped to unpack some of the wine, I told my partner that I could swear there were twenty six when we left home, he said there were but twenty four then, and I said, perhaps the horse has swallowed some of them; I went up immediately and searched the bag that was under the axletree of the cart, and found a bottle of Lisbon sealed there, with my master's seal; I went immediately to the basket out of which the horses fed, and I found there a bottle of Lisbon wine, sealed with my master's seal, and my fellow servant took them.

Q. Did any body else attend this cart besides the carman, except you and your fellow servant? - Not to my knowledge.

Mr. Knowlys. Did you pack them up yourself in the pickle? - No, my fellow servant did, but I counted them to him.

Q. You say you found two bottles near this cart, you did not ascertain what they were, you did not draw their corks? - I did not, but they were sealed with my master's seal "Wigzell, Lisbon."

Q. Whatever the two bottles were, you put them all with the rest in the cellar? - My fellow servant took them, I did not.

Q. What became of them afterwards you don't know? - I do not.

Q. This man was the carman only, pray how long was it afterwards that these bottles were produced? - I cannot tell the time.

Q. How long was it after the man was taken up? - The day following, in the afternoon.


I keep the house where the wine was to be delivered. I saw Mr. Wigzell's man take one bottle from under the cart, and one from the basket at the horses head; they were delivered in the cellar to my servant.

Q. You did not see what wine it was? - I did not see myself; I see the carman go to the basket some time before the wine was taken out, but I did not see him put any thing there but hay.

- COPE sworn.

Q. Did you attend this cart from the Minories? - I did, I missed two bottles of Lisbon as we were laying it down, the young woman, Ann Robinson , was along with me as I was laying it down, and I said here is but twenty-four, and I called to my fellow servant, and said, here is but twenty-four Lisbon, and did he know any thing about the other two? he said no, perhaps the carman's horse had eat them, and he went up stairs and fetched them down, and gave them into my hand. and I put them along with the rest. The carman was along side of us, giving them into my hands as I put them down.

Mr. Knowlys. That wine was not distinguished from the rest? - It was not.

Q. And Swinney was the man that cried out the carman's horse might have eat them, and the servant maid was making

a noise about the two bottles, and then Swinney brought them down? Why they have complained at this house before that there was wine missing when the Irishman laid them down? - I don't know, I never was with him before.


I was in the cellar when Mr. Wigzell's man unpacked the wine, and he set twenty-four on the shelf, and I said, there ought to be twenty-six, and he said, very likely the other two were in the pickle, under the rail, and it was examined, and they were not, and he told his fellow servant, and he went up and brought them down; I have kept them separate ever since, one of them, and one Mr. Wigzell has had ever since Friday. They were all set on a shelf in the wine cellar, and these two were set at the other end, not among the others.

Mr. Knowlys. Do you mean to say that he did not put the two bottles with all the rest of the cargoe? - Close by them, but not to mix them so but they might be taken from the rest; he could not put it with the parcel of the others, because I had filled the shelf up with other wine.(The wine produced.)

Q. To Prosecutor. Is that your seal? - It is.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-20
VerdictNot Guilty

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489. WILLIAM JESSOP and THOMAS BENWELL were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 23d of October , two trusses of Hay, value 6s. the goods of Richard James and Thomas Weatherhead .(The case opened by Mr. Knapp.)


Q. I understand you are foreman to Messrs. James and Weatherhead. What are they? - Coopers , and partners, 128, Wapping New-stairs .

Q. Do you know Jessop? - Yes, he was our carman .

Q. Do you Benwell? - Yes; he does work with a house and cart.

Q. On the 23d of September were you in your warehouse? - Yes, I went there by desire of my master; it is about sixteen or twenty yards from the stable, and has a command of the stable and the hayloft; our first going there was about a quarter past six, Friday last, the 23d of October, I went up into the left of the warehouse, and the carman was then just bringing the cart round, and I heard somebody in conversation with Jessop whom he called to him.

Q. It was dark then? - It was; apparently the moon was young. Then he drew the cart up, and before Jessop took his horse out of his cart, Jessop and another went into the stable.

Q. Was that the same person as he called to him? - I cannot tell. They staid in five or six minutes, thereabouts, and Jessop came out and stood in the middle, of the way, as if looking out, and somebody past by the stable; then I came down and communicated what I had heard to Mr. James, and then we pursued and went round to meet them.

Q. You returned again before you met them? - Yes.

Q. How long was it before you returned back again? - About ten minutes.

Q. Who was with you? - Mr. James, myself, and Thomas Weatherhead , my master's son. Then Mr. James and I went up into the lost; we had been there about three quarters of an hour, or something less, and a man came along; I did

not perfectly see who it was that passed along; then I discovered Benwell go and look behind some hogshead opposite the lost where we stood; the hogsheads were in bye way.

Q. Near the stable? - Yes; and then he went opposite the stable left door, and said, now! he was saying that seemingly to Jessop in the last; and Jessop said, are you ready? then Benwell said, down with it. Accordingly Jessop lowered the hay down to Benwell by his hands, to ease it on his back. The lost is some where about ten or eleven seet high; it was seemingly two trusses.

Q. Did Benwell take it? - Yes; and Mr. James, I and Thomas Weatherhead pursued him; Mr. James went on first and took him; when I came up he had hold of him, and I took the hay from Benwell by the desire of Mr. James; I deposited it under lock and key, and put a seal on, in a house belonging to Mr. Weatherhead. Benwell went away.

Q. How soon was he apprehended? - Saturday, the next morning. We let him go, because he gave us a reason; he said our carman had borrowed the hay of him, and that was to return it.

Q. At what time of the night was this that the hay was lowered down? - About a quarter to eight.

Q. Do you know whether your master had borrowed any hay? - Not to my knowledge. I got a warrant that night and took Jessop up that night, and Benwell the next morning, and they were taken before a justice and committed.

Mr. Peate. Where abouts is this lost situated with respect to the house, over the warehouse? - No, nearly opposite.

Q. When this transaction was going forward, what distance might you be from the lost? - About sixteen or twenty yards. It lay aslant.

Q. The premises both belong to the prosecutor? - Yes.

Q. This happened a few days ago. You could see the person of the prisoner? - Yes, perfectly well; there was a lamp a little way from the stable door, and Jessop had a light in the lost; they were between us and the light.

Q. That light was in a lanthorn, I presume, was it not? - They had a light in the lanthorn.

Q. If you had not been watching for that purpose, should you have been able to have discovered alone that this was the prisoner at the bar that you see there? - Yes, perfectly well; I should have known him.

Q. Had any other of the prosecutor's servants access to this hay lost but the prisoner at the bar? - There was nobody had any business there but himself.

Q. I suppose they could get in occasionally? - If they did, they must get in from inside of the premises, because it is all surrounded with buildings.

Q. You say that you see both the prisoners at the time that the hay was taken away? - Yes, as plain as I see you.

Q. How long might it be before you came up with the parties in this transaction that passed at the hay lost? - Somewhere about sixty or a hundred yards. When I came up, as far as I heard, Benwell asked Mr. James if he thought he was coming to steal his hay? and told him that he had got that hay in return for some that he had lent the carman.

Q. How long has Jessop been in the service of Mr. James and the other gentlemen? - I think about eight or nine months.

Q. Is there any other person concerned in business with him? - Not that I know.

Mr. Knapp. You knew these persons before? - Yes.


Q. We understand you were with this last witness in the lost? - Yes, I was.

Q. You see what he has described, and you pursued Benwell? - Yes, I did, After waiting there sometime I see a man come down from the lost in a very fly way; after that I see him returning to the stable and go up into the hay lost; he then came down again and came out of the stable, the same manner as before; he returned back again and went up into the hay lost; then I see a man coming very fly along the street, looking into a parcel of hoops and into a parcel of hogsheads that were just by our warehouse; after that I see him go under the hay lost and he said, now! and Jessop said, are you ready? in a saint voice.

Q. What time of the night was this? - Just before eight o'clock. I then see Jessop lower down the trusses of hay on this man's shoulder, which he went away with, and I immediately pursued him, and by the time that he got about sixty yards from our premises, I caught him. It was all in the same street.

Q. Did you ever lose sight of the man? - No.

Q. When you came up to the man, who did he turn out to be? - Thomas Benwell , the prisoner at the bar. I collared him, and he let down the hay; he had got the hay on his shoulder; I said, what I have got you at last; he seemed confused, and he said, I only came for two trusses of hay which your man owed me; I told him it was a very odd time of night to come for it; he said, very impudently, he had a right to come for his own when he liked; I asked him if he did not know the way to the counting house? he said, he knew nothing about the counting house. Jeremiah Keys came up, and I gave him the hay; I went into the house to see if Mr. Weatherhead was come home, to see what I was to do in the business; he was not at home.

Q. Was that hay the same as you see him lift out of the lost? - Yes, it was. I went up to justice Staples and took out a warrant, and took Jessop up that night; I met him in a street in Old Gravel-lane, coming out of a public house. Previous to that, when I came back again, I went to the stable where Jessop was; he came out, and said, O, it is all right, it is two trusses of hay which I borrowed when Mr. Crowder's people were here.

Q. Did you know any thing of hay being borrowed? - No. On the contrary I told him never to borrow any thing without coming to the counting house to propose it. The next day the officer apprehended Benwell that I gave the warrant to.

Mr. Peate. You speak of this man coming slily down the lane. What do you mean by that? - A man's coming down in a skulking manner, more like a thief then an honest man, in a fly manner altogether.

Q. Did he walk fast? - Sly, in a creeping manner.

Q. You say that he spoke in a low voice; don't you think the tone of voice was sufficient to be heard? - I don't know that.

Q. You followed this person and collared him. Don't you think if a person was to follow you, and collar you, would it not alarm you a little? - I don't think it would alarm me.

Q. I am rather inclined to think it would. However he told you that it was hay that he had borrowed? - He did.

Q. And when you pressed the business he seemed angry? - He did not seem to be the best pleased.

Q. When you see Jessop in the stable, or hay lost, or cooperage, or somewhere, it is not material where, he told you the same story, and that he had repaid the man again? - He did so.

Q. I suppose at this time both the occupations of this Jessop and the other prisoner

was ended? - Jessop had got to clean his horse.

Q. You have no partner but Mr. Weatherhead? - Nobody else.

Jury. Will you take on yourself to say, that your lost was so well furnished with hay as to have no occasion to borrow any about this time? - I suppose there was then about ten or twelve trusses in.

Q. Had you wanted any hay for any time previous to this? - I cannot exactly say.

Q. How long is it since you have bought that hay? - The 2d or 3d of October.

Q. Was there before this any occasion for borrowing any hay? - Not that I know of.

Mr. Peate. Did either of the prisoners state to you as to the time of the loan of the hay? - William Jessop told me that he had lent it about five weeks ago the last Thursday, and he said it was a time that a particular friend was at our house; and that was on the 5th of October, and on the 2d or 3d we had the load of hay in by our books.

Prisoner Jessop. Six weeks ago last Sunday morning I borrowed two trusses of clover hay of this man, and last Friday night this man came for it, and I paid him. I have witnesses that I borrowed it.

Prisoner Benwell. I lent Mr. James's and Weatherhead's carman two trusses of clover, on the 13th of September, and I went to claim them the 23d of October, and Mr. James stopped me with them, and I told him it was for two trusses that I had lent his carman.


I heard this carman of Mr. James and Weatherhead ask this Thomas Benwell to lend him a truss of hay, for he had none for his horse, and I see him take a truss of clover from him. It was between seven and eight in the morning; it was six weeks Sunday last.

Q. Pray, Mr. Norman, what are you? - I am a coal heaver.

Q. What is the character of the prisoners? Do you know them? - Yes, I have known them both these three years. I never heard any bad character of them.

Q. Was any body present but you? - None that I know. He said that he had asked Mr. Goodsall's man just before that, and he said he had got none for his own horse.

Court. Where was this conversation? - In Gravel-lane

Mr. Knapp. You were a servant to these gentlemen once? - Yes, I was before this last carman went that stands there.

Q. You gave some information to the prosecutor about this business? - No.

Q. To Keys, the foreman? - No.

Q. How long have you been discharged from your master's service? - About Witsuntide, about a horse knocking a bit of hair off his knee.

Q. You are sure it was only one truss? - It was only one truss that I see.

The prisoner Jessop called one witness and the prisoner Benwell nine witnesses, who gave them good charcters.

Both not GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-21
VerdictNot Guilty

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490. ELIZABETH ROBERTS and AMY COLE were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 17th of October , a silver watch, value 1l. the goods of Samuel Tilstone .


I am a whitesmith ; I was robbed on Saturday the 17th of this month, about twelve o'clock at night.

Q. Are you a single or a married man? - A single man. I was asked to supper at one Mr. Watson's, and I was informed there that there was a fire at the pawnbroker's; I had been there from about half past seven to twelve. I was a little intoxicated in liquor.

Q. Where was this fire? - In Cable-street, Wellclose-square .

Q. Was it there that you met these women? - Yes. They accosted me, and asked me if I would walk into their house? they live in the same street. I went with Elizabeth Roberts ; I went up two pair of stairs with her, and I pulled my watch out of my breeches pocket and put it into my waistcoat pocket, and I sat down on a low bed; and as I sat there, when I had sat there a little while, she gave a turn from my side and went out, and came back again, and gave me a tap on my breast with one hand, and took the watch with the other.

Q. Did you see or feel it go? - Yes; I did not see the watch in her hand, I felt it go; she calls out, open the door! open the door! and there was another by the door.

Q. Did they open the door? - Yes, and I got up and forced the door open.

Q. Then when she went out was the door shut on you? - Yes, and another by the door when I opened the door outside.

Q. Who was the other? - I cannot tell, it was a very dark place, and I laid hold of her, and I said, where is my watch? and she said, what ails the man? come down stairs; and then I went down stairs, and I walked from that door to another, and I stopped by this door, and by and by I see four women coming arm and arm, and the prisoner Roberts was one of the four, and I laid hold of her, and put her in the watch-house. I have nothing more to say.

Q. You went with this girl you say; was there any other girl with her? - No, there was not.

Q. What have you to say against the other girl? - Sunday night there came two girls to our house, the 18th, and told me that this Cole took my watch and planted it in East Smithfield; as soon as they told that to me, the beadle went and took her in charge.

Q. Did you ever find your watch again? - Yes; Coombes has it.

Q. When did you see it in his hands? - The 19th, the Monday as they were tried.

Q. Cole was not one of the girls that you see in the house? - No, but she was one of the four that was with the other girl when I took her.

Q. You was in liquor. Had you ever seen Roberts before? - I have seen her many times; I never spoke to her before; but I go a jobbing in that street very often, for my master, and I live close by. I am certain she took the watch from me.

Q. Was your's a silver watch? - Yes. My name is inside of it, S. T. smith, 1793.


I am an officer belonging to the public office, Whitechapel. On Monday the 19th, about one or two o'clock, I came to the office, and they told me that these two girls were brought up, and were charged with stealing this man's watch, and I went and found the watch in Amy Cole's bed, inside, sewed up between the slock and the feathers. She gave me the key of the room; there was only one bed in the room.

Q. Did she tell you it was inside of the bed? - No.

Q. You have kept it till this time? - I have.

Jury. Was there any hole in the, ticking where the watch might tumble in? - There were none.

Prosecutor. It is my watch.

Prisoner Roberts. I was in this man's company on Saturday night, and he gave me a shilling, and I went down to get something to drink, and I left the candle burning the mean while, and when I came back, the candle was out and he was gone out of the room, and I never see him afterwards, till he came to take me prisoner; he had no watch as ever I see. The house is full of girls, and they have got a great antipathy against me, and I don't know what for.

Prisoner Cole. I never see the young man till he came up on Sunday morning, and said, that was the room where he was robbed; and when he came in he said, that was not the room; and he went into the back room, and found nothing, and he said, that he was very confident that this was the girl that took the watch.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-22
VerdictNot Guilty

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491. MARY SMITH was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 28th of September , a pewter quart pot, value 1s. 6d. the goods of William Nurse .


I keep the Phoenix, in Stacy-street, St. Giles's . On the 28th of September the prisoner came into my house, I don't know what day of the week, about eight at night, and asked for a pint and penny worth of beer; I was then in my bar, I called the maid to draw the pint and penny worth of beer, which she did, and put it into a quart pot; I see her deliver it into her hand; my maid asked her where she was going with that pot? she said, to No. 2, next door. The maid suspecting her, she watched her home; I see her follow her out of doors, but I did not know then that she meant to watch her home; I remained without doing any thing further, till between nine and ten o'clock, when my pots were very short, having had about ten pounds worth stolen in about a fortnight; when I sent my maid after the pot; she denied to the maid that she had any pot, and I went to the woman myself.

Q. How long was this after the maid followed her out of doors? - About three quarters of an hour.

Q. Where was the prisoner's room? - In the back garret, No. 7, Stacy-street, the same street. I asked her for my pot; and she said, she had no pot, neither did she know any thing of me nor of my house. While I was speaking to the woman, a woman, whose name was Edwards, came up stairs, and said, Mr. Nurse, here is your pot, thrown out of window. It was picked up by one Mrs. Cadwell, in the adjoining yard.

Q. Where did this conversation pass? - On the stair case, close to her garret door. I then charged the watch with her immediately. The metal was then hot when it was brought up to me. I went to the watch-house with her. I cannot swear to the metal, only my pot was never forth coming. I returned from the watch-house with the watchman, and desired them to go with me to her garret; the woman of the house went up in the garret with me; Mr. Edwards, who keeps the house, told me that that was the garret that woman lived in.

Q. And that was in her presence? - Yes.

Q. What did you find in this garret? - The frying-pan in which from its appearance

the metal was melted in, some of the metal is now in the pan; I took the pan and carried it to the watch-house where I left it, and it remained till Saturday in the hands of the constable, who took charge of her, when he brought it to me and delivered it up, as he said there no occasion for his attendance. I have brought it here.

Q. Was it the same pan that was returned? - That is the very pan.(The pan and metal produced.)


Q. Are you a servant in the house of the prosecutor? - Yes, I am.

Q. Did you see the prisoner in the house? - Yes; I drew her the beer myself; she told me it was going to No.9, three times over.

Q. What did you give her the beer in? - A quart pot. I watched to see whether she went to No. 9, and she went to No. 7; I watched her up one pair of stairs myself.

Q. She took away the pot with her? - Yes; she had not drank the liquor. About three quarters of an hour after I went and asked her for the pot; and she said she had never a one; she was not in her own room then, she was in the next woman's room; I told her I must have it and I should not leave the house till I had it. I immediately went to my master, and my master came up to her; I went and fetched my master, and my master and me went up together; my master insisted on having the pot found, and this woman brought the metal up, and my master charged the watch with her.

Q. Did you see any metal? - Yes. There was some metal found in a pail of water; that was after the prisoner was gone.

Q. There was some conversation in the passage about some; did you hear that conversation? - Yes; Mrs. Edwards came up and said, Mr. Nurle, here is your pot, thrown out of window just now. She brought up the piece of pewter.


I was in the yard and heard a noise, I turned about and see that piece of pewter, I took it up and gave it to Mrs. Aldridge. It was the yard adjoining to the next house where the pewter came down, where this prisoner lived.

Q. Should you know this piece of pewter again? - Not to swear to it; it looked like this.

Jury. Did this piece of pewter feel warm at the time? - Yes, there was a warmth on it, and I gave it into the hands of Mrs. Aldridge, and she took it and gave it to Mrs. Edwards; Mrs. Aldridge said there was warmth in it.

Q. To Prosecutor. Was that pewter warm that was produced to you in the passage? - Yes, it was.

Prisoner. In the first place I don't live in the room, nor does it belong to me, I only went to see an acquaintance that I knew lived there; I don't live in the house at all. I was only brought here yesterday, and I had no notice of coming, or a very short notice, and I have not had time to send for my friends.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-23

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492. ROBERT COOPER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 26th of September , a woman's cotton gown, value 3s. the goods of Thomas Beaumont .


I live at No. 46, Eagle street, Red Lion-square . On Saturday the 26th of September, I lost a gown, my wife's gown; it was hanging to dry in the parlour,

in which we live; it was about three o'clock in the afternoon, being a bookbinder by trade, I was at work in the kitchen, and hearing my wife call out that a person had robbed her of her gown. I pursued the prisoner about forty or fifty yards from my habitation, coming up to him he knocked me down.

Q. Who was it you pursued? - Robert Cooper, the prisoner. He was taken in Holborn by Hogarth, who is at the back of the indictment, and delivered into the hands of an officer; previous to this he had delivered the gown to my wife; just as he was coming out of the apartment.


On the 26th of September, about three o'clock, I was cleaning down the kitchen stairs, I heard a strange foot in the parlour, I called out, who is there? nobody made me any answer. I immediately went up stairs and met the prisoner coming out of the room with the gown in his hand; I said, that is my gown; and I took the gown from him, and I called to my husband, who was in the kitchen, that a man had taken a gown and ran away, and he immediately pursued him, and then called out stop thief! and he was taken and brought back. The gown has been in the hands of the officer ever since, but the officer was ill and could not attend. This is the gown. The house was open, and the children were playing about the door.

Prisoner. Be so good as to ask her whether I did not ask her if there was any owner for that gown, as it lay at the door? - I do not recollect any such circumstance.


Q. I understand you to take this man? - I did; by hearing the cry of stop thief! I immediately pursued him, and I took him in Holborn, when Mr. Beaumont came up and said, that is the thief, he made two strokes at me, but I kept hold of him.

Prisoner. I was walking along the street, and I see the gown lay at the door, and I picked it up, and this lady came, and I asked her if it was her property? and she said it was; and I gave it her, and walked deliberately away.

GUILTY . (Aged 28.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-24

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493. JANE GRIGG was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 3d of July , a pewter quart pot, value 13d. a leather strap, value 2d. the goods of Stephen Noad .


The property belonged to me; I don't know nothing of the prisoner taking it.

- BROWN sworn.

I am a carpenter and joiner; I was at the house called the sign of the Barn, kept by Mr. Huggings, looking through the window I see two women coming along, which the prisoner was one; she had a tub in her hand; she passed by the end of Hunt's-court ; seeing this quart pot and strap at the end of Hunt's-court, and she came back and took it and put it under her cloak.

Q. To Prosecutor. Do you live near this place? - Yes.

Q. Is it your pot? - Yes.

Q. What house do you keep? - The sign of the Coach and Horses, in St. Martin's-lane . I detected her taking the pail out of the yard about ten days before.

Prisoner. I took the pot a drop of water at St. Martin's pump, it was just by the pump.

Q. How came you to conceal it? - I was going by and I see it.

Q. To Brown. What was the story she told when you apprehended her? - She said she had not go it. and we went to move her, and it dropped from under her clothes.

GUILTY . (Aged 16.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-25
SentenceImprisonment > house of correction; Miscellaneous > fine

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494. JOHN NORTH was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 19th of September , two pounds weight of raw coffee, value 3s. the goods of Aaron Brandon and Samuel Cortissy .

A second COUNT laying it to be the property of persons unknown.

The case opened by Mr. Knapp.


Q. Were you in the warehouse of Messrs. Brandon and Cortissy on the 19th of September? - Yes. The prisoner was employed by the customs to take the tares from the coffee

Q. How is the coffee kept? - In casks and bags. They are generally open after they are tared. I was on the stairs. I see the prisoner take the coffee out of the cask, it was this small bag, and put it into his breeches. On doing this he went down stairs. I immediately followed him, and told Chamerson, the excise officer, if he offered to go out to stop him. I went up and told my master, and he called him to him, and master told Chamerson to touch him, and he said, he had got a little coffee in his breaches; he pulled it out himself, and delivered it to Mr. Chamerson.

Q. What quantity was there? - Two pounds and a quarter, Mr. Chamerson weighed it.

Q. Are there any such small bags as these in the warehouses in which coffee are kept? - There are not.

Q. What kind of coffee was it? - Raw coffee.

Q. Did it appear to be of the same kind as the coffee in the warehouse? - The very same kind.

Mr. Moore. Did you see him put the coffee into the bag? - No, I did not, because the casks was not above half full. I see him take the bag out of the cask.

Q. You are a warehouseman? - Yes.

Q. Pray has there not been some little kind of dispute between the custom house men and the warehouse men? - Not that I know of.

Q. They were not so unreasonable as to complain that you would not move the casks? Was there any complaint to your matter that it was your business to move the casks out of the way, and you did not move them? - I do not remember there was any such complaint.

Q. Was not the allowance of beer taken away in consequence of their complaint? - No.

Q. It was stopped? - No.

Q. What was this man's employment in the warehouse? - A coffee tarer, employed by the customs.

Q. Was it not the custom of office to search every man before be went out? - Yes, but in the part where he had concealed it, he might not have been searched.

Q. Have they not been, in consequence of several depredations, more in their search? - They certainly have.

Q. Was he certain of being searched before he left work? - Yes.

Q. Was this such a quantity that you think be could escape being found out? - Yes, because I observed when he went down stairs there did not appear any alteration.


I am a locker under the excise.

Q. Was you at the warehouse on the 19th of September? - I was.

Q. Was the prisoner at the bar there? - He was standing up, and Mr. Brandon told me to search that man; I searched him directly, and took down his apron, and he took this bag out of his breeches, and said he had only got a little coffee, which I have had in my possession ever since. This is the same kind as was in the warehouse.

Q. Whereabouts is the value of It? - 18d.


Q. Who are the proprietors of these warehouses we have been talking of? - Aaron Brandon and Samuel Cortissy .

Prisoner I have nothing to say; I am not guilty.

The prisoner called five witnesses who gave him a good character.

GUILTY . (Aged 28.)

Six Months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. BARON HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-26
SentenceImprisonment > house of correction; Miscellaneous > fine

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495. WILLIAM SARD was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of September , two pounds weight of raw coffee, value 4s. the goods of William Masheter and Co.

A Second COUNT slating it to the property of persons unknown.(The case opened by Mr. Knowlys.)


Q. Were you stationed at Mr. Masheer's on the 30th of September last? - I was.

Q. What are you? - A locker belonging to the excise.

Q. Do you know the prisoner at the bar? - Yes. He was employed as a cooper in a room, No. 17.

Q. Was there any coffee deposited in that part of the warehouse? - A great deal of raw coffee.

Q. Do you know whether any body was at work with him? - Another man. let him out of the warehouse. We are obliged to lock them in.

Q. It is the course of business. - It is. I searched them both.

Q. Who did you search first? - His fellow workman.

Q. Did you find any thing on him? - Nothing.

Q. Afterwards you searched the prisoner? - Yes. I found this coffee on his hair, under his hat. A pound and three quarters. We generally just touch the hat. I see the coffee trickle down; I did not take his hat off; he took the hat off, and threw it down on the floor, which had been just swept that morning; I told him that I thought he had no idea of taking the coffee; he said he had only a little for his wife.

Q. What is the value of the coffee? - About one shilling and nine pence, or two shillings.

Q. Is that coffee of the same kind as was lodged in the same room as he was in? - I believe it is.

Mr. Knapp. There is great quantity of raw coffee in these warehouse? - Yes. They were all in casks, but some was loose on the floor at that time.

Q. You never see the prisoner searched him at going out? - I see him in the warehouse.

Q. You did not search him till his time of going out? - No

Q. Then whether he took it from the floor or casks you don't know at all? - I do not. There was a great deal of raw coffee on the floor, that the had left, as much as would fill a couple of hogsheads.

Q. He was a cooper? - He had cooper's tools with him.

Q. Perhaps you have never heard of such a thing as perquisites of the little tare that might drop from the casks? - There were no perquisites of coffee; they have beer.

Q. Did you never know persons that had coffee, and considered it as perquisites; have you never heard that before? - I don't know that I have. I cannot recollect it.

Q. You produce this coffee; it has been in your custody ever since; never been out of your custody since you took it from him? - Never.

Q. It was not taken to be weighed by any body? - The custom-house officer took it from me to weigh it. I cannot swear to the coffee.

Mr. Knowlys. This coffee is necessarily thrown on the ground to be dried and tared? - It is.

Q. The coffee on the floor is not waste coffee? - No.

Q. Is that coffee that you found on the man clean raw coffee? - It is good coffee.

- RAPER sworn.

Q. I believe you are a person in the employment of the customs? - Yes.

Q. Were you in these warehouse of Mr. Masheter on the 30th of September? - Yes. We have two floors in the warehouse with coffee in; one a higher than the other. I was in the lower story. I went up on Mr. Willbore's calling to me. When I went up I see some coffee on the floor, which Mr. Willbore told me that he had detected the prisoner with in his hat, and he had thrown it on the floor. I took it up and weighed it, and returned it to Mr. Willbore.

Q. That was raw coffee of the same kind as in that warehouse? - Yes.


Q. Do you know the proprietors of these warehouses? - Yes.

Q. What are their names? - William Masheter, George Bing , Edward Janson, and Thomas Platt . I think so, but I am not sure.

Prisoner. What I am indicted for I know nothing of. I leave my defence to my counsel.

The prisoner called six witnesses, who gave him a good character.

GUILTY . (Aged 28.)

Six Months Imprisonment in the House of Correction , and fined 1s.

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before. Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-27

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496. RICHARD BATELEY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 9th of October , two quart pewter pots, value 2s. and a pint pewter pot, value 6d. the goods of Francis Downs .


I keep the Golden Lion, Battle Bridge, Pancras . This gentleman was found with my pots.


I am a publican. On October the 9th, in the evening, between the hours of seven and eight, a man came into my house, in Coppice Row, and said, Ellis, I believe there is a man knocking up forae pewter in such a house in Coppice Row; it is a shell of a house, the corner of Bowling Grden Lane, Coppice Row. I went to the window of the same house, and when I came there, the man made his escape out of the door; I pursued him, and took him in Baker's Row. The prisoner, Richard Bateley .

Q. How far from the place did you take him? - About a hundred yards.

Q. Did you lose sight of him? - No. From that I collared him, and brought him to my house, and set him down in the bar. He had pots in his apron, and he had something in his packets, which I did not take from him. I gave charge of him to a couple of patroles, who took him down to St. James's watch-house, Clerkenwell. I have got the pots here, two quarts and a pint; he had battered them with a brickbat the same way as they are now.

Prosecutor. They are my pots. I can almost swear that they were scoured the same day as he took them. There is my name on them all.


Mr. Ellis sent for me to take the man into custody.

Prisoner. I was at the White Hart, Battle Bridge. I know the house perfectly well; if I am not mistaken, one Mr. Hamilton keeps it. I went there at one o'clock; I had a sheep's heart drest for dinner, and it being a rainy afternoon I stopped there till half past six o'clock that evening that these three pots were found on me. I believe I can prove I was there at half past six, and coming from the White Hart home to Mr. where I lodge, I found these pots and the bundle I am like wise charged with, altogether. It was in a place where there was a pump, and a little house there. I found the pots; I did not endeavour to nine them; I brought them in my apron along the road; I might have come many different ways not to have come through the town; and in the house that was opposite Mr. Ellis's I went to ease myself, and my foot slipped, and the pots made a noise, and that was what they heard. Whether they was bruised so in the fall, I must leave your Lordship to judge. However, that gentleman comes out to me when I got out again into the road, and said, what have got there? says I, I have got some pots, and he said, whose are they? I said, I did not know, and if they had watched me out, they might have found out whether I was the thief, and most likely the people that were the receiver of these things. I did not make any obstruction to being taken; I went very quickly into the house; he asked me if I would drink some gin? I was then intimidated, not so much for any thing, as for fear of going to prison to be ironed; a circumstance I never experienced before. However, I was taken by two watchmen; I did not appear that they gave any charge against me; I was then put backwards, it was three hours before I was searched; I then had time to ruminate, and consider of the unhappy circumstance. I knew there was a great deal of guilt Implied in having stolen goods in my possession. I had a bundle with me, and there was a hole in the wall, where I might have made away with the bundle, but I did not, but however, after that I was searched; I was taken to the magistrate's, at Hatton Garden, I believe, but before we went into court, they proposed to me to enter on board some of his majesty's ships, or to go for a soldier, and

I absolutely must confess, that I was willing; they told me there was no fear if I was agreeable to do that; I told them it was not for fear of guilt, but for fear of being in a prison. I told them I was willing to go, and in any corps that they might think proper, but when I came to have the examination I was denied that.

The prisoner called two witnesses, who gave him a good character.

GUILTY . (Aged 37.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-28
VerdictNot Guilty

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497. MARY CLARK was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 14th of October , twenty-two yards of printed cotton, value 35s. the goods of William Gillman .


I am a linen-draper , No. 23, Barbican ; I missed the cotton the 14th of the present month. There is nobody here that can identify her person I believe.

Q. When did you last see the cotton that was missing? - I cannot exactly say the day; my young man remembers seeing it on Tuesday; I missed it on Wednesday; it is here.


Q. Are you a shopman to the prosecutor? - Yes, I am.

Q. When did you see the cotton the last time before it was stole? - The 13th of October.

Q. When was it missed? - The next morning. I see a woman in the shop in the afternoon of the 13th, but I cannot swear to her person. I was in the shop. I only know that I missed the print the next morning.


I belong to the Public Office at Whitechapel. On the 14th of this month I went to Mrs. Clarke's house, and found this piece in the house.

Q. Is she a married woman? - Yes. It was open for sale in the shop. She was in custody at that time. She was taken on Tuesday night.

Gillman. She was taken in consequence of some other robbery.

Q. To Hanson. What shop does the prisoner keep? - A kind of a linen draper's shop ; sells cottons, muslins, and all kinds of those articles.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-29
VerdictNot Guilty

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498. MARY CLARKE was again indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 28th of August , eight yards of printed cotton, value 14s. the goods of Robert Macglew .


The prisoner at the bar came to the shop of Robert Macglew, on the 28th of August, and purchased some goods. I am a shopman. She bought some printed cottons. After she was gone that evening, we missed eight yards of printed cotton, which is now in custody. We never heard no more of the circumstance till the prisoner was in custody.

Q. Are you sure that was not sold to her? - Positive of it.

Mr. Knowlys. How much did she lay out in the shop? - About 2l. 15s. within a few shillings.

Q. A much greater value than the value of these eight yards? - The eight yards is about the value of 15s.


Q. You searched the prisoner's house? - Yes.

Q. And you found this cotton? - Yes, it has been in my custody ever since

Q. Where did you find it? - In the shop, with some other goods.

Mr. Knowlys to Atkinson. Your shop is a very well accustomed shop? - Yes, it is.

Q. She paid you honestly to the amount of 2l. 15s.? - she did.

Q. How long before she entered the house had you seen this cotton - I cannot be positive; to the best of my recollection, it was in the house, and shewn to her, and on the counter at the time, but I cannot be on my oath to that, we had only just had the print in a few days.

Q. Wherever that was found, the shop mark was permitted to be on it from the 28th of August to the 14th of October.

Mr. Gurney to Hanson. You went to the shop of the prisoner's husband, he keeps a linen-draper's shop ? - She keeps the business, because he goes to sea.

Q. But he was in custody with her? -He was.

Q. And you found that publickly in the shop? - Yes.

The prisoner called eight witnesses, who gave her a good character.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-30
VerdictNot Guilty

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499. JANE GIBBS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 3d of October , thirty pounds weight of feathers, value 30s. a copper saucepan, value 3s. two woollen blankets, value 2s. two bolsters, value 18d. and a pillow, value 1s. the goods of James Smith , in a lodging room .


Q. Where do you live? - No. 7, Orange-street, Swallow street .

Q. Do you let lodgings? - Yes.

Q. Did the prisoner lodge with you? - Yes.

Q. When did she come to you? - Upwards of two years ago

Q. Has she lodged with you ever since? - Yes. she had a husband, a painter and glazier by his profession, he has escaped. She had two garrets at 4s. 6d. a week. The man paid very regularly. without it was for the last two weeks, They never quitted my lodgings till she was taken up for the robbery she has committed. I lost the feathers almost out of two beds entirely, one in each garret. One is quite gone, and the feathers are almost gone out of the other. I lost, besides, three pillows, and two bolsters, a copper saucepan, and several other articles, a great many more things than I can speak to.

Q. Do you recollect to have seen these things lately? - No, I never was in the room. They never let me into the room. They had a son about thirteen years of age, and if they went out, he always kept the door locked, so that I could not get in. I have found out the pawnbroker's. The duplicates were found on her. I have seen them, and am clear they are mine.


Q. Do you know the prisoner at the bar? - Yes, I took in a pillow of her the 20th of December last, 1794, a blanket, the 1st of January, 1794.

Prosecutor. I have not seen the so things, but I see a saucepan that was clearly mine.

Q. To Lofield. Did you take in the saucepan? - I did not.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-31

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500. JANE GIBBS was again indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 3d of October , a cotton gown, value 10s. the goods of Diana Richards and Charles Richards her son.

Q. Are you any relation to Diana? - I am son. My mother is an infirm woman, of seventy five years of age, and lives with me. I support her.

Q. Do you know any thing of her losing a gown? - It was missed on the fourth day of October. It was a cotton gown. We found it the next day, the fifth, at the pawnbroker's. The maid servant of mine had seen it on Thursday, and from her information I found it was missed on Sunday. The prisoner came to a lodger that was in my house, that lay in there. She was taken in my house, and the duplicate was found on her. The gown is here, and here is a piece of the same.


Q. Have you got the gown here? - Yes.

Q. Who did you take in that gown of? - Of the prisoner, on the third of October. She came in and asked me to lend her eight shillings on it, and I lent her eight shillings on it.

Q. Did she say whose it was? - No.

Q. Did you know her before? - Yes.

Prosecutor. I know it to be my mother's. I am perfectly sure there were many other things that I left, but this I know most of.

Prisoner. I have nothing to say.

GUILTY . (Aged 29.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-32
SentenceImprisonment > house of correction; Miscellaneous > fine

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500. LUCY HOARE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 16th of October , a cotton gown, value 5s. a linen shift, value 4s. the goods of William Rogers .


Q. You are the wife of the prosecutor? - Yes. On the seventh day of May, about eight o'clock in the morning, the prisoner came to ask me how I did. She had been a lodger with me about twelve months back. I asked her to stop, and take a bit of breakfast along with me, and after I had my breakfast, I asked her if she would stop in my place while I went to fetch a shovel that a neighbour had borrowed. When I came back she was there, and staid for about ten minutes, and then she went, and as soon as I opened my box, I missed a gown and shift.

Q. Whereabouts was your box kept? - In the same room she was in.

Q. Was it locked? - No, it was not.

Q. When had you seen it the last time before it was stole? - The Monday before.

Q. What day did she take it? - Wednesday. The Monday following I found them at the pawnbroker's.


Q. Are you a pawnbroker? - Yes, at Islington.

Q. To Prosecutor. Where do you live? - York-street, Pentonville.

Wildman. On the seventh of May the prisoner pledged a gown for four shillings.

Q. Did she pawn any shift? - No.

Prosecutor. I never found the shift.

Wildmen. The prosecutor called on me the Monday following, and I gave her the gown. (Produced.)

Prosecutor. I know it well; it was bought last Christmas. It is lined with a check apron, which is rather uncommon.

Prisoner. Mrs. Rogers has taken an oath to things that I never see; I lodged with Mrs. Rogers very nigh a twelve month, and she asked me one morning to come in and have some breakfast, I sat very near an hour in the room, and I came-out as I went in, and I never brought any thing out with me at all.

GUILTY . (Aged 35.)

Imprisoned six months in the House of Correction and fined 1s.

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-33

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503. JOHN MARSHALL was indicted for stealing, on the 2d of October , six wether sheep, price 12l. the goods of William Buswell .


I am a grazier and salesman , I live in Hanging oatley, in the parish of Lamport, in Northamptonshire ; I lost six wether sheep at Hornsey, the 2d of October; they were at keeping in a field there; there were eighty five there in all.

Q. When had you last counted them over? - The shepherd had counted them over the evening of the first; they were in keeping of the shepherd, John Shrimpton .


Q. When was the last day you had counted over your master's sheep? - The morning they were lost, and the evening before they were lost.

Q. When were they lost? - Thursday night.

Q. What day of the month was this? - I don't keep the day of the month in my head.

Q. You counted them the over night before they were lost, how many had you then? - Eighty-five was the whole number at first, I missed half a dozen.

Q. Were you at the finding of them again? - No, not at the finding of them.

Q. Had these sheep any particular mark? - Yes, a cross brand.


I am headborough. On Friday morning, the 2d of October, about three o'clock three watchmen rung at my bell, and said that they had met Marshall with six large sheep, and some other man with him, that he had crossed away out of their parish, and gone into St. John's, Hackney.

Q. What did you do? - I got up immediately, and I went over very near Marshall's house, and one of the watchmen had got to Marshall's; Marshall's house is in the Bell yard, in St. Mary's, Newington, across the road.

Q. How far is this place from where the sheep was stole? - I fancy three or four miles; three miles however.

Q. Did you see any sheep there? - I came down stairs, and when I came down Edward Wright , one of the watchmen, was talking to Marshall.

Q. Did you see any sheep? - Yes, I see six, all with their legs tied, two in the alley, a small alley near his house, one in the open yard before his house, and three in his bed room below stairs; his bed room is on the ground floor.

Q. What is he? - He is a butcher.

Q. Were these fat sheep? - They were fat sheep.

Q. Did you observe their marks? - I have the skins here, there is a cross brand on the hip. I said to him, John, I thought you had got enough of Mr. Stonard with the calf some time before; O, says he, I don't care what any of you may do, I gave four guineas and a half a piece for them, and had given that man that was with him sixpence to help him home; I told him he must go to the cage, he said he hoped not, he did not like to be looked at, I told him he must; I put the sheep in a stable just by, and took him to the cage; he sometime after that wanted me sadly to let him loose; I took him before the justice in Worship-street, he was committed for re-examination.

Q. To William Baswell . Did you see the sheep after this? - Yes, in the stable.

Q. Were they your sheep? - They were my sheep.

Q. Who sent you intelligence of them? - Mr. Jacques, of Highgate; I came to town on Sunday, and I had intelligence; then I came to Smithfield market on Monday, and I went in the afternoon and see them.

Q. Had they your mark on them? - Yes.


Q. Are you a watchman? - Yes.

Q. On Monday, the 2d of October, what did you see? - I see two men come by about a quarter after two o'clock.

Q. Did you know him before? - No.

Q. Are you sure it is the same man? - Yes.

Q. He came by you at what time? -A quarter past two, at Stoke Newington; he passed me without shoes.

Q. Had he any sheep with him then? - No. I said to him, good morning young man, he made me no answer; I said to him again, good morning to you, and I said, if you are going far you will be sore footted, and he said he was almost so already, and I followed him as far as the Brewhouse-lane, between the Coach and Horses, about fourteen or fifteen yards; then I see a man and him meet together, with six sheep, and I said, John Marshall, where are you going with them? he said he was going home with them; I said,

you dog, you will come to be hanged; he said he did not care who see him, he gave four guineas and a half for them.

Q. Were there any droves that night in the road? - Not before four o'clock in the morning, then there came a drove of lambs by.

Q. What happened after this passed between him and you? - Then I went and told my brother watchman, and he came down along with me, and we set of again down the alley where John Marshall lived, and I went down and spoke to John Marshall, and he was tying the legs of the lost sheep, and then I see but five, and I said, John Marshall, where is the other? and he said, it is in the house, Boreman.

Q. Were you the person that gave the information to Badford? - No.


Q. Are you a watchman? - Yes.

Q. What do you know of these sheep? - When Boreman came up to me, I went down and catched Marshall over one of the sheep in the yard; there were two in the alley, and three he had got in the house

Prisoner. I was going along Islington road, and I see these six sheep astray, four in the road and two eating the grass by the side of the bank, and I was going to drive them into the pound, and when I came to the pound I see nobody up, and I thought of taking them home till I could find an owner for them, and as they were obstreporous in the corners, I tied their legs.

GUILTY . Death . (Aged 20.)

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-34
SentenceImprisonment > house of correction; Miscellaneous > fine

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504. THOMAS PARSONS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 24th of October , a plane called a plow, value 10s. a rabbit plane, value 1s. a bead plane, value 1s. and adze with a wooden handle, value 1s. a jack plane, value 1s. a hammer, value 6d. and a master, value 6d. the goods of Thomas Waite .


I am a carpenter , I lost a plane, &c.

Q. Did you lose them altogether? - Yes, all at one time, the prisoner and I worked together last Friday and Saturday, at one shop, in New Lyle-street,' Leicester-fields .

Q. Where did you put these tools? - I put them in sundry places about the house.

Q. When had you seen them last, before they were stole? - On Saturday afternoon. I live at Kennington, and the report went from New Lyle-street to Kennington on Sunday morning, between breakfast and dinner time.


Here are the tools in court, we stopped part of them on the prisoner, coming out of his lodgings in the morning, on Monday last, we had a strong suspicion against him; we searched his lodgings afterwards and found the rest.

Q. Did he give any account how he came by them? - No.

Mr. Knowlys. Don't say that he gave no account; did not he say he had bought them of one Thomas Weller ? - He gave the name of Thomas Wayland , but he did not say where he was to be found, when he was examined.

Q. Has not the officers been after that man? - Not that I know of, I never heard him make mention of a name, he gave in a piece of writing with the name of Wayland, but that was done after

ward, not when he was stopped, it was after he was in custody at Bow street.

Q. I believe at the time this man left work, he left some of his own tools behind him? - No, he did not.

Court to Waite Are those your tools? - Yes, by the marks, I had them stamped, but it has been attempted to be scratched out. The plow I know by a piece being broke off, and I bid it on Saturday in a dark place, where I thought nobody would have thought of going.

Prisoner. On Saturday, after I left these gentlemen I went home, I left them between six and seven o'clock; about half after eight on Saturday evening I went out again, and went to a public house; and there was a young man there of the name of Thomas Wayland , and he said to me, Parsons, I have got a quantity of Tools to fell; I was in liquor as well as him; says he, I will have half a guinea for them; says I, I will give you half a guinea for them, and I bought them of him, and took them home.

The prisoner called five witnesses who gave him a good character.

GUILTY . (Aged 25.)

Imprisoned six months in the House of Correction and fined 1s.

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-35
SentenceImprisonment > house of correction; Miscellaneous > fine

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505. FRANCIS WARD was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 28th of September , a piece of muslin containing ten yards, value 1l. 10s. and a piece of silk handkerchief, value 1l. 10s. the goods of Thomas Haton .


I keep a linen draper's shop , No. 78, Piccadilly . The 28th of September last the prisoner at the bar with another came walking backwards and forwards before my shop, and stood to look at the goods that I hang cut; after they had looked for some time the witness came and told me that the two people had taken some goods at the door; I immediately goes and looks after them down Half Moon-street, and see the piece of handkerchiefs and the piece of muslin under the prisoner's coat; I see them both under his coat, I stopped him, just as I came up he let them fall.

(Produced and deposed to.)


I was sitting at the next door but one, at a stall, and I saw two men come and sit down at the next door to the gentleman's shop, and one says to the other, it is very good; and they went off and came back again, and they looked to see if the place was clear, and I see the prisoner take the blue handkerchiefs and something white, which I did not know what it was, and I went and informed Mr. Haton; he took it all and wrapped it up together and bundled it in his apron, and put it under his coat, and ran down Half Moon-street; I did not see him taken, for I immediately went to mind my own things.

Prisoner. I was going along, and this gentleman that I was with took these things down and gave them me, and told me to carry them home for him, and said, he would fellow me, and directly as he see the gentleman coming up, he ran away, and when I see him run away, I threw the things down.

GUILTY . (Aged 26.)

Imprisoned three months in the House of Correction and fined 1s.

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-36
VerdictGuilty > theft under 40s

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506. JOHN NOTTS was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of Thomas Lawrence , the younger, about the hour of three in the night on the 23d of October , and burglariously stealing therein, two wooden casks, value 4s. nine gallons of gin, value 4l. three gallons of oxmore, value 1l. 7s. twelve case bottle, value 3s. and twelve quarts of port wine, value 1l. 4s. his property .

(The case opened by Mr. Knowlys.)


Q. Do you keep the Crown and Anchor Inn, at staines ? - Yes.

Q. Was your house broke open at any time? - Yes, between the hours of one and five on the 22d. I was the last person up.

Q. Were your windows and doors secured on the 22d? - Yes, I went to bed about half after eleven.

Q. Were you the first person up in the morning? - No, the servant was up before me, and came and alarmed me a little after six.

Q. Was it day light at the time the alarm was given? - Yes. I found the cellar door open, the lock wrenched.

Q. Is that within side of the house? - Inside of the house.

Q. Could you at all perceive how they had had got into the house? - They had taken an iron bar out of the cellar window which opens into the stable yard, and by opening the cellar door which opens into a passage, which has the whole range of the house.

Q. How did you find that cellar door? - I found it wide open.

Q. Did you know of your own knowledge whether that cellar door had been fastened the over night? - I am confident of it, I double locked it myself. The lock of the door was not put back, it had been wrenched by forcing the staple; I also found the door open that want into the stable yard, there they had a proper conveyance for taking away the property.

Q. Had you fastened that door that goes into the stable yard at night? - It was fall then.

Q. When you examined your premises did you find any thing missing? - Yes, I lost a cag of gin, also a cag of compounds called oxmore.

Q. About how many gallons did they comain? - I cannot positively say; there was about three gallons lest of the oxmore.

Q. And how many gallons of gin? - Nine gallons.

Q. Did you lose any thing besides? - Yes, a great quantity of red wine in bottles, I cannot exactly say how much. I rather suspected one Clarke and got a search warrant to search his house in the afternoon of the 23d.

Q. Did you find any of your property at Clarke's? - Yes, a dozen of wine.

Q. In consequence of any thing that Clarke said, did you afterwards see the prisoner? - Yes. In consequence of what Clarke said they went to the prisoner's house, the King's Head.

Q. Did you go with them? - No.

Q. What is the prisoner? - He keeps a small public house at Staines.

Q. How far from your house - A quarter of a mile.

Q. Is it a house where they sell wine? - I don't know really, indeed.

Q. Were you present at any time with the prisoner at the bar, when he said any thing? - Yes, after the prisoner was confined by the constable, at the public house.

Q. At his own public house or another? - At another. The constable sent for me after they had taken him, to see if I

could find any of my property; nothing was found in the prisoner's house.

Q. Then you afterwards went where they had the prisoner in confinement? - Yes.

Q. Did you, or any body in your hearing make him any promise, or threaten him, to induce him to say any thing? - No.

Q. Then tell us what he said. - He said, if we would loose him and not keep him in confinement, he would pay me for my loss; afterwards he said that he had seven or eight bottles of my wine in his possession, which he would surrender up, and that he had sent a person for them to take them to my house.

Q. Is that all you know about this man? - The same day, but before I fetched the search warrant, I called at his house and had part of a pot of beer with him; after he was taken into confinement he said he was sorry that he had not told me more of the case, at the time I was drinking the beer with him, that he might be admitted a King's evidence.

Mr. Cullen. What time of the day was this? - In the evening, after his confinement.

Q. When did you get the search warrant? - On the afternoon of the 23d.

Q. Who lives in the house with you? - My wife's father.

Q. What is his name? - Spring.

Q. Is the house your's? - I went it.

Q. Are you alone answerable for the rent? - I am.

Q. It was day light when you got up, therefore you cannot say at what time they broke the house open? - No.


Q. I believe you are constable of Staines? - Chief constable.

Q. Did you go with any search warrant in consequence of any information that Mr. Lawrence's house had been broks open? Had you the prisoner at the bar in your custody? - Yes; I went to the house, and his wife denied him.

Q. At what time did you apprehend him? - Between eight and nine, the evening of the 23d. I took him to the Blue Anchor public house, and he declared to me that he would pay all the expences, that he would pay the landlord for the wine and liquor that was lost, and he would pay the constable and every one for their trouble; he would pay all expences, rather than be taken to gaol to be made an oration of.

Q. Did he say any thing else at any time? - He mentioned it several times to me. After his commitment to Shepperton, I asked him to give up the liquor, as the landlord was as young beginner.

Mr. Cullen. Be so good to tell us what past before he made this confession; perhaps you made some oration to him? - No.

Q. I suppose you did not tell him that he had got into a bad scrape, and had better do something to get out of it? - I had sufficient trouble to secure him.

Q. Perhaps you had sufficient trouble to get this confession? - No, quite the reverse.

Q. You are sure you did not tell him? it would be better for him? - I am certain I did not.

Q. Perhaps you told him it was but a flea bite, that he might confess every thing? - My answer to him was, that he had better hold his tongue, and say nothing, for Clarke had turned evidence.

Mr. Knowlys. Now tell us what you said to him and he to you about this wine? - After he came out from the bench and was committed, I said, Nott, you had better give up this wine to the landlord, for he was a young beginner, and could not well bear the loss; and his

wife told it was not in the place where he put it.


Q. You are admitted an evidence on this occasion. Now tell us the exact truth; tell us every thing that past, who was concerned with you, and what you did; what time you did it, and all about it? - About one o'clock in the morning I was called up by one Wingrove, Friday morning; we went and broke the bar of Thomas Lawrences window; Wingrove broke it, and we got into the cellar where his liquor was; they put me in, and Wingrove and Notts they stood outside, at the window, while I opened the door to let them In.

Q. What did you do after you got in? - I asked the liquor and took some away.

Q. What did you take away? - A cask of gin, and a cask of cordial, some red port, and I believe there was some white.

Q. What was the port in? - In bottles.

Q. About what hour was it you broke in? - Between one and two.

Q. How long did you stay in the house? - About half an hour.

Q. What became of the liquor and wine after you had got it? - Carried it down to Notts's house. We shared the wine.

Q. What became of the liquor? - We carried it over into the Heath, opposite the house, and buried it.

Q. Has it been found since? - Yes.

Q. Who got the liquor afterwards? - The landlord, Thomas Lawrence; I told him where to find it.

Q. Do you know how many bottles of wine you had apiece? - We shared it at Notts's house; I had twelve, the rest had eight apiece. I was taken up the same day, Friday evening.

Q. Did you discover this matter then? - Yes.

Q. To save yourself, I suppose? - I did not think much about saving myself.

Mr. Cullon. You are positive that Notts was with you when you broke open the house? - No, we went and called him up after.

Q. You and Wingrove broke the house? - Yes.

Q. Were was Notts? - At home.

Q. Then afterwards you went and called up Notts? - Yes. It was agreed upon the over night.

Q. If ever you did say that Notts was with you when you broke open the house, it was not true? - I never did say so.

Q. Perhaps you did not say so before the justice? - No.

Q. Then perhaps, if the justice has taken it down so, he took it down false? - I never said so.

Q. Then you never said Notts broke the bar with you, but that you and Wingrove broke the bar together, and then you wentand called up Notts. You desire to be believed by the truth of what you have now sworn? - Yes.

Q. Then how came you to tell my friend just now that Notts and Wingrove put you into the cellar? - So they did.

Q. When you gave information of the prisoner at the bar having been concerned in this, you did not know that it would do you any good? - No, I did not know any thing about it; all the gentlemen round persuaded me to tell. I did not know any thing about saving myself.

Q. You knew that you had been guilty of burglary? - Yes.

Q. Did not you know that you deserved to be hanged for that? - I did not know that.

Q. Perhaps then as you did not know that you deserved to be hanged for breaking open a house, you did not know that there was a reward? - No.

Q. Pray what is your business, Mr. Clarke? - A day labouring man.

Q. You never laboured in the night? - This night I did.

Q. How many nights before in that week? - None.

Q. How long have you been a day labourer? - Ever since I was bred up, and turned out to service twelve or fourteen years ago.

Q. Then what do you mean by a day labourer? - I work for my bread.

Q. What was you before? - Lived in service.

Q. Do you know a man of the name of Betster? - Yes.

Q. Do you know a man of the name of Drake? - Yes.

Q. Perhaps you gave information of something that they had done some time ago? - Yes. That was three sacks of malt; that was Betster and John Notts .

Court. We cannot go into that.


Q. I believe you are a constable at Staines? - Yes, a petty constable, Mr. Lawrence called me up on Friday morning, and said, that his house had been broke open; he asked to go to the magistrate and get a search warrant, which I did; I got the search warrant and went to this Clarke's house, and found twelve bottles of red port, to the best of my knowledge.

Q. Did you afterwards see the prisoner at the bar? - Yes, I see him after he was taken up; he was in my custody a time.

Q. While he was in your custody did he say any thing? - He offered to give up eight bottles of wine, rather than have any more piece of work about it, or words to that purpose. I likewise had the two casks that are here, at the bench of justices they told me to give the landlord the liquor.

Q. Who put them into your custody? - The headborough, I believe; and I put a dark lanthorn into my pocket, which I was told belonged to John Nott.

Q. Were the casks empty at the time they were produced? - No, I had them full some time, under lock and key, at my house.


I am headborough; I was informed, by Samuel Clarke, that the casks were bid on the Heath.

Q. Did you find them according to his information? - Yes.

Q. Had they liquor in them at that time? - Yes, they had. We carried them to the magistrate, and the liquor was returned to the landlord, Mr. Lawrence, and the casks were brought here.

Q. Did you go to Notts's house? - Yes, I went and searched the house on Friday; I found a dark lanthorn.

Q. Did you give that lanthorn to Dale? - Yes; I found it in his garden, adjoining to his dwelling house, covered over with some dirt.

Prisoner. I am innocent of the affair; I said, before I would go to prison, I would sooner pay the value of the things that the man lost.

The prisoner called one witness who gave him a good character.


Of stealing to the value of 39s. but not of the burglary . (Aged 27.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-37
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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507. JOHN HARRIS was indicted for burglariously breaking and enter

ing the dwelling house of Henry William Dinsdall , about the hour of ten in the night of the 6th of October , and burglariously stealing therein, a gold watch, value 10l. a cornelian seal set in gold, value 10s. a steel watch chain, value 8d. a gold watch key, value 2s. a gold bed hook, value 2s. one hundred and twenty-five pounds weight of sewing thread, value 80l. and twenty-five pounds weight of sewing cotton, value 20l. the goods of the said Henry William Dinsdall .


Q. Where do you keep house? - Queen-street, Cheapside .

Q. Was your house broke open at any time? - Yes, on the evening of the 6th, between nine and ten, on Tuesday; nobody was in it.

Q. What time of the day was it you left it? - Between seven and eight as usual; it was quite dark, and in the first place I placed my watch in the desk and locked it; I then double locked my warehouse.

Q. Where was this desk that you locked? - In my counting house, at the bottom of my warehouse, I then locked the street door; I then went to one of the witnesses, Thomas North , whom I had employed to sleep there, as I had done several nights previous; after which I see no more of the premises till the next morning.

Q. Was every part of this house and warehouse windows and doors fastened, before you went out? - Yes, they were.

Q. You are not aware that any part was left open? - I am not. The next morning, between seven and eight, I found my warehouse open; I observed a great part of my property moved from their respective places; I observed like wife two large bags completely filled with my property, laying near the warehouse door, filled with threads and tapes, sewing thread and sewing cotton. The next thing that I observed was my desk broke open; I examined it and found my watch was gone; it was a gold repeating watch.

Q. Did you lose a cornelian seal with it, a steel watch chain, a gold watch key, and a gold bed hook? - Yes; I have recovered the seals, and bed hook, and bed key.

Q. The other property, I understand, was not removed out of your house? - It was not.

Q. Are you perfectly sure from the observation that you made, that the property that you see in the morning, was removed in the course of the night? - I am perfectly sure of it. The bags were not my property; I never see them before.

Mr. Knapp. All these things, excepts ing the watch, was only put into the bags and not removed out of the house? - That I cannot speak to, because there were other persons in the house before me.

Q. This house was in a state of repair, was it not? - It was not. I had only a few days taken the house; I had never slept in it.

Q. Had you ever left this house without any body in the house? - I had, but not for five or six nights previous to this robbery.

Q. Since the time that you left your house empty, had you seen all the things that you have described to be found in bags? - I have not a doubt but I have; but I cannot speak particularly.

Q. The very night this business was done, you went out and left North in the house? - I did not; I went to his house and delivered him the key, in St. Ann's-lane, near Maiden-lane, Wood-street.

Q. We know that St. Ann's lane, and Queen street, Cheapside, are at a considerable distance? - Some distance.

Q. It may be ten minutes walk there and back again? - It may.

Q. During this time that you went to give the key, the house was left empty? - It certainly was.

Q. Did you return to the house with North? - I did not.

Q. Then you don't know, in point of fact, when North returned to the house? - I certainly cannot speak to that.

Q. How long previous to this robbery had North slept in your house? - Only a few nights, North and Chamberlain.

Q. What is North? - A hair dresser.

Q. What is Chamberlain? - He is the same.

Q. They are not servants of your's? - They are not.


I am a hair dresser; I slept in this house the night it was broke open.

Q. Who brought you the key? - Mr. Dinsdall, about twenty minutes before eight.

Q. How soon did you go to the house? - About ten minutes before ten. In putting the key into the door I discovered the door to be on the single lock; it rather startled me, as every evening before I found it double locked; immediately the key was in I opened it and sees a glimmering light in the passage, and I says to another young man that went with me to sleep there, there are thieves in the house; his name is James Chamberlain ; he immediately says, pull to the door. We endeavoured to pull to the door and double lock it, to keep them in, but they over powered us, and opened the door and rushed out. I don't know how many were in the house; I see two men come out; I know one to be the man, for I caught hold of him as he came out; I cannot speak to the other.

Q. Was there any light in the house at the time? - None but the light of the dark lanthorn, in the hands of a person, when we opened the door. As he came out of the house I caught hold of the man at the bar, and with the force of his coming out, he sent me to the ground; I had hold of his coat at the same time, but I was obliged to leave go his coat; in the mean time he got the other side of the way; I fell to the ground on my side, by his rushing out; I was obliged to loose my hold to recover myself, by that time he gained the other side of the way, and I caught him by the flap of his coat again before he got to the pavement, and there I held him, till. I gave him in charge to the constable; he ran some little distance. There was not a foul about, that it was impossible for me to be mistaken in the man that I laid hold of. The other young man pursued the other, and I kept this in my eye. When the constable took charge of him, he took him into a public house and searched him; he had nothing about him; but while I had hold of him, he rummaged his pockets for something, and he slipped his hand between his thighs and dropped something, which founded to me like keys, and there were some pick lock keys brought to us in the house.

Q. Where was it he dropped something? - In Queen-street, the corner of Watling-street; I see his hand, but I did not see what he had got in his hand.

Q. How soon were the pick lock keys brought in after? - About two minutes.

Q. Is the person here that brought them in? - I don't think he is; he was a person that came up promiscuously, and I don't think we have seen him since. I see him to the counter; we went back immediately to the house, after I had been to the counter.

Q. What became of the other prisoner? - He got out of the other young man's hands; he was not taken. The other young man got back before me; when I

got back, there was a bag with a number of goods packed in it in the passage, and another bag in the warehouse on the floor, about three parts full. I went to the little compting house, and there I perceived the strews had been wrenched out of the halps of the little desk.

Q. Was there any violence done to the door of the house? - Nothing at all. They must have got in by pick lock keys.

Q. Was it light or dark when you got there? - It was a dark night; we could see by the light of the lamps ten or twenty yards.

Mr. Knapp. We understand from the prosecutor that he left the house between seven and eight, and you were there about ten, so that there were two hours elapsed between the time that the prosecutor left you the key and the time you went there? - There was.

Q. You pursued the prisoner at the bar? - I did.

Q. Chamberlain's attention was not directed to the prisoner, it was after another man? - It was.

Q. I believe the keys that were found were found after the prisoner was in custody? - After I had got him. I could not perceive what it was dropt, but I heard the rattle of something like keys, and I see him rummage his pockets.

Q. This was the sixth of October, and about ten at night, dark of course? -Dark, so as you might see by the lamps.

Q. The night was dark without the lamps? - It was. It was a wet night, but free from rain at that time.

Q. You told my lord just now that there was no other light but the light of the dark lanthorn? - Not in the house. As I opened the door there was no other light that I could see but the dark lanthorn, and that was in the man's hand.

Q. You endeavoured to pull to the door? - I did. My partners had hold of the nob of the door, and I had hold of the key, but that was not so strong a purchase as they might have on the inside.

Q. But however, notwithstanding that, they rushed out, and you was down in a moment? - I was.

Q. What became of the lanthorn? - It was found in the house afterwards. There is a lamp directly opposite.

Q. Queen-street is a wide street you know? - Just room for two carts to pass. I could evidently see any person that was coming up or down the street for ten or twenty yards.

Q. Do you mean to say, that at the distance of ten or twenty yards that you could discern a man so as to know him? - I don't say so, but he was not two yards from me.

Q. Had you ever seen the prisoner at the bar before in your life? - Never, but it was all momentary, and he was in custody momentary.

Q. Don't you know that the life of the man at the bar is at stake in this prosecution? - No, I cannot say that.

Q. Then I tell you that his life is at stake; on your oath do you mean to swear to this man under these circumstances? - I do, I can do it, I have done it.

Q. Have you ever heard there is a reward in the case of conviction, where a house is broke open? - Yes, I have heard such a thing.

Q. What sort of a reward, how much is it? - According to the circumstances. I have heard there is a reward of forty pounds if the man is to be hanged.

Q. Pray, sir, what may you be? - I am a hair-dresser, and keep a house in St. Ann's-lane, and the man that I lived with I lived with till I was in business for myself.


Q. Did you go with North to the prosecutor's house? - I did. As soon as North came to the door, we were alarm

ed by a glimmer of light, and North and I attempted to pull the door to, but we were overcome by somebody inside, and they with force rushed out upon us. The first man that came out was the man I struck at, that made his escape. I pursued him across the road, and he presented something to me which I thought to be a pistol.

Q. What became of the other man, do you know? - I know not, only that North had hold of him. I see him lay hold of a man that came out of the door.

Q. The man that North laid hold of was taken to a public house? - Yes.

Q. As soon as you lost your man did you return to Dinsdall, or go to the public house? - I returned to Dinsdall, and from there I went to the public house.

Q. Was the door open when you returned? - It was. I did not enter it before I went to the public house, and got a light in a lanthorn, the Three Cranes, in Queen-street.

Q. Did you see the prisoner at the public house? - Yes, I see North have hold of him at the public house.

Q. Did you observe any thing else, were there any keys produced? - Not while I was there.

Q. Did you go back to Mr. Dinsdall's? - I did, with the light. I found a large pack of goods in the passage, tied up, and another pack in the warehouse, three parts full, and found the desk in the counting house broke open, and a few halfpence scattered about it, with a locket; there was a variety of goods lay scattered about the warehouse, and a dark lanthorn between the warehouse door and the passage.

Q. Was there any light in the dark lanthorn, or had it been put out? - Put out.

Q. Did the candle appear as if it had been lately burning? - Yes.

Q. When we searched the house we heard there were three men, but we could find no other.

Q. There was nothing disturbed in the upper part of the house? - Nothing in the world.

Mr. Knapp. Were you present when the prisoner was searched? - No, I was not.

Q. There was a considerable brush out of the house? - There was.

Q. Were you thrown down? - I was not.

Q. You don't undertake to swear to the man that North took? - I do not. I see him take hold of a man, but who that man was I cannot say.


I am a scale beam maker. On the 6th of October, Tuesday evening, it may be some little before ten o'clock in the evening, I had just done supper, I thought I heard rather more noise than usual. I opened my door, and found a man of the name of North had a man in possession by the collar, and I was given to understand that he had made his escape out of the next house to mine.

Q. Look at the prisoner? - That is the man. We went into the public house which is next door, and there he was searched by one Wright, a watchman; I went with him to the counter. I see the keys and a dark lanthorn; the keys were brought into the public house, one part picked up in Queen-street, and the other part in Watling-street. They were brought into the Three Cranes.

Q. Who has kept the keys ever since? - I believe Wright, the constable.


I am a stationer. I see the man on the sixth of this month at the Fleece, in Well-court, in company with another man, about a quarter after nine at night, or near ten, he called for six penny's worth of gin and water; he sat down for about five minutes, and another man came and pushed the door open, and then the other two immediately went out, after having a glass of gin at the bar altogether. They went out together. About half an hour after that I was sitting at the Fleece door, and I heard a noise in Queen-street, and I immediately went out and see the prisoner now at the bar in the hands of North.

Q. How far might this public house be in Fleece-court from the house of Dinsdall? - I take it about one hundred and fifty yards.

Mr. Knapp. What time was it you saw the prisoner come into the Fleece? - About nine o'clock.

Q. How long was it before the other man came in? - There was one man came in with him.

Q. How long were they in before the third man came in? - Three or four minutes.

Q. What are you? - A stationer.

Q. Were you sworn before the justice? - I was.


Q. You are an officer; you were at the Three Cranes this Tuesday night? - I was. I heard call stop thief. I am patrol and constable, but I was not on duty. I was drinking a pint of beer. I left my beer on the table, and ran out of the public house, and I see John North have hold of the prisoner. I assisted them. I asked John North what he had done, he said, broke open a house.

Q. Did you search him? - I did. I found nothing but a proper house key.

Q. Were there any other keys produced or brought there? - There were.

Mr. Knapp. Who did you have them of? - I don't know.

Q. What time do you go on your beat? - Ten o'clock at that time.

Court to Prosecutor. With regard to your chain and some other parts of your watch, where did you get that? - From two men that are here.

Prisoner. I leave it all to my counsel. If Mr. North takes on himself to swear that I am the person that came out of the house, it is very little use to say any thing.

GUILTY, Of stealing, but not in the dwelling, house, nor of breaking and entering .(Aged 36.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-38
VerdictNot Guilty

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508. MARY BRADBURY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the sixteenth of October , a hand axe, value 5s. the goods of William Hawes .


I am a coach wheelwright . I lost an axe the sixteenth of this month, in the shop where I work, Mr. Lever's, Durham-yard . I see it within an hour before I missed it The prisoner and several other people were waiting there for chips and pieces of wood that we sell there as waste. We had lost four axes there before, and from the last being lost from where the prisoner sat, we suspected her.

Q. Where did you find the axe? -Under the prisoner's clothes, on the ground, immediately as I missed it almost, within five minutes or less; I did not see her take it, but she sat close to where I used it; the people were gone for chips to the other shop, and I hallooed out to my shopmates, and said I have lost another axe, and I went and found this axe under the prisoner's clothes, forty yards distant from where I left it; when I found it under her clothes I sent for the constable, and took her up, the axe is here, the officer has got it.


I see the axe under the prisoner's apparel, she had a great cloak on, and a dirty bag about her, but in what manner the axe was concealed I cannot say, I see the axe fall from under her apparel, I am very certain it fell from her, and no one else; there were several people near her.

- sworn.

I know nothing further than I happened to stand by and see the axe drop on the stones, but I did not know what it was then; I see it after the search.


I know nothing of the business, I only have the property.(The axe deposed to.)

Prisoner. I went up to get some chips, we went from one shop to another, there was a matter of sixteen of us, there were not enough to serve; and that man came up and said he would make a search, for he had lost his axe; I said, let us be searched then, and the hatchet was found inside of the place; as for the hatchet I never see it in my life; I am thirty-seven years of age, and never was in goal all my life; that woman that he has brought to swear against me, was not nigh me, she was in another place.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-39
VerdictGuilty > theft under 40s

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509. JANE BARRY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 30th of August , two black silk cloaks, value 1l. 10s. seven yards of printed cotton, value 1l. 1s. a black stuff petticoat, value 10s. two silk gowns, value 2l. seven yards of silk, value 7s. four linen shirts, value 8s. seven linen clouts, value 7s. a linen apron, value 3s. seven pair of men's cotton stockings, value 14s. a child's linen bed gown, value 1s. 6d. five yards of linen, value, 3s. two linen shirt sleeves, value rs. a pair of black silk stockings, value 2s. two linen pillow cases, value 2s. a linen sheet, value 2s. a pair of black silk gloves, value 1s. four linen childrens caps trimmed with lace, value 2s. and a guinea ; the goods, chattels, and monies of Eleanor Froggatt .


Q. Are you the wife of William Birch ? - Yes; he is a carpenter.

Q. You lost a good deal of your property; in whose house was it? - Eleanor Froggatt 's house, a widow .

Q. Where did she live? - In Market-court, by Oxford-market ; I left there on the last day of August, in the one pair of stairs back room; it was my own apartment, I rented it of this Froggatt.

Q. When did you miss your property? - Four days after the last day of August; I went out and left the apartment safe, as I thought; I staid away four days.

Q. What was the prisoner at the bar? - A lodger in the house.

Q. Are the things that you lost here in court? - Yes, some of them that I found

at the pawnbroker's. I left my door very safe, not apprehending any danger, and when I went in at my door, the first thing I see was, my pocket book, which I found broke-open, and the guinea gone; the next I found was two boxes broke open.

Q. Had they been locked? - Yes. The next thing I turned my head and see my three drawers lay in different parts of the room; the case was never up the stairs, because it would not go up, but the drawers stood one on another in the room when I left them, but when I see them they were in separate parts of the room; I found nothing in them, but stripped of every thing but one blanket.

Q. Was any property left in the drawers? - Yes, every thing mentioned in the indictment was all there safe, I observed nothing else, but a piece of linen that is here, on the floor, that I picked up, I picked up my child's clothes all over the room, when I came in.


I am a soldier's wife; Jane Barry gave me the duplicate of a silk cloak, which was at Mr. Jones's, Tottenham Court-road, for me to go and sell the cloak to Mr. Jones, out and out; he would not buy it; I came to my lodgings, at Mrs. Froggatt's, and told Mrs. Froggat what sort of a cloak I had seen; it was left in pawn, and Mrs. Froggatt told me it was Mrs. Birch's cloak; the next morning I took the remaining duplicates from her that she had, and I delivered them up to Mr. Kennedy.


I am a widow, I keep a lodging house; Mrs. Birch lodged in my back room, and this young woman, the prisoner, in the front; Mrs. Birch used frequently to go out and sleep with her husband, and she used to leave a blind child in my room, and so I desired her to quit my lodging, and she was moving away for two or three days before she went away, then she came back again and said she was robbed of all her things and she went and had a search warrant, and had I, and Jane Barry , and my daughter up to the justice's and we were discharged, and the next day after there was a duplicate of a coat found.


Q. Are you the pawnbroker? - I am.

Q. Do you know the prisoner at the bar? - Yes, she and two more came to pawn this cloak, to the best of my knowledge there were three of them; she pawned the cloak for ten shillings and sixpence; I have got it now. (Deposed to.)


I am a constable belonging to Marlborough-street office; I know nothing but taking the prisoner into custody, and having duplicates which I received of Sarah Benson.

Prisoner. I know nothing about it at all.

GUILTY, Of stealing to the value of 5s. (Aged 19.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-40

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510. GEORGE CHESHAM was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 25th of September , seventeen yards of woollen cloth, value 2l. 15s. the goods of James Gibbs .


Q. Do you live with Mr. Gibbs? - Yes.

Q. What is he? - A man mercer , No. 84, Oxford-street . On Friday, the 25th of September, between the hours of one and two o'clock in the afternoon, I see a

suspicious person, the prisoner, standing near the window; he came and laid hold of the cloth several times, which was outside of the door, between two simicircle windows. I went out, the prisoner stood looking at the window, and he walked off while I was out, and then he came back again, and he did that two or three times; I went away, and when he see an opportunity he took the cloths; I was inside of the shop, looking through the window, and I see the prisoner take the cloths, and put them underneath his arms; on seeing of this I went out, and could have taken him myself if I had not called out stop thief! but I called out stop thief! and he immediately dropped the cloths, and turned up Winslow-street, and he was taken in Adam and Eve-court, but was never out of my sight from his taking away the cloth to his being taken.(Produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. I was walking down Oxford-road, and heard them call out stop thief! and went to see what was the matter, and this man came and laid hold of me in Adam and Eve-court.

Prosecutor. I see him take them, and I was not so far from him as I am from this table, when he dropped the cloths.

GUILTY . (Aged 19.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-41

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511. CATHARINE FOSTER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 15th of October , six silver tea spoons, value 14s. a cotton gown, value 5s. a muslin apron, value 2s. a linen apron, value 1s. a linen handkerchief, value 6d. three muslin handkerchiefs, value 18d. and a pair of cotton stockings, value 18d. the goods of Daniel Faysaux .


Q. You are the wife of the prosecutor? - Yes.

Q. What is your husband? - A gentleman's servant ; the prisoner lodged in my house, the garret, she stole the property out of my own room.

Q. When did you see them last, before they were stole? - The same morning.

Q. When did you miss them? - The same day, Monday, the 12th of this month; I found them on her, the duplicates were in her pocket, and some of the wearing apparel she had on.

Q. Had she left your lodgings? - Yes, the same day; she was taken up in the Park.


I am a pawnbroker.

Q. Do you know the prisoner? - I believe it is the same, I cannot positively swear; a young woman came to our house to pawn an apron.

Q. Who produced the things that were found on her? - Moore, the constable.

MOORE sworn.

On the 13th I was sent for to Mrs. Faysaux's house; when I came there the prisoner was there, I found the duplicates on her, there was the key of her room found on her, which belonged to her lodgings; I found a handkerchief on her which is here; we went to her lodgings, and found a gown and two other handkerchiefs, a muslin apron, one cloth apron, a pair of cotton stockings, and six silver tea spoons; I have had them in my possession ever since.(The things deposed to.)

Q. Did you find the spoons on her? - I found the duplicate, and found that it was at the pawnbroker's, and Mrs. Faysaux found them.

BROWN sworn.

I am a pawnbroker, I took in the spoons of the prisoner.

Q. You are sure of that? - Yes, I am.

Prisoner. It was distress that drove me to it, for the prosecutrix keeps a bad house.

GUILTY . (Aged 15.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-42
VerdictNot Guilty

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512. JOSEPH HOLDER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 17th of October , a wooden work bench, value 4s. a wooden mop reel and stand, value 4s. an iron anvil, value 2s. an iron hammer with a wooden handle, value 6d. a pair of iron pincer, value 4d a man's leather strap, value 1d. the goods of William Bloomfield .


I am a brush maker and turner , in Aylesbury-street, Clerkenwell ; I missed the property on Sunday, the 17th of this month, from my shop; I keep the shop myself; I see the things the Friday before, about twelve o'clock.

Q. Why do you suppose the prisoner took these things? - I had no other in my house that I could suppose had taken them besides; I procured a search warrant, and found the things on this prisoner's premises, on Monday morning as I missed them on Sunday.

Mr. Alley. Have you ever been in this court before? - Never on this business.

Q. On some other business? - I never was here on any business of this denomination, I never was here as a prosecutor.

Q. Were you ever here as a prisoner? - were you ever standing at that bar? - Yes.

Q. Be kind enough to tell me how long you have known the prisoner? - I have known him from the 3d day of June.

Q. Have you ever been in partnership with any body? - Never.

Q. Did the prisoner at the bar live long with you? - He has lived with me, but as a partner.

Q. Recollect sir where you are, what a serious tribunal you are standing before; how did he live with you? - As a servant from the 3d of June, but as a servant in the house from the 1st of August.

Q. Has not that person participated in the profits of your business? - Never.

Q. On your oath were there not articles of agreement entered into between you and the prisoner at the bar? - Never executed, there were articles drawn up.

Q. Never signed, sealed, nor delivered, that is what you mean? - Never signed, sealed, nor delivered.

Q. Do you know an attorney of the name of Banden? - I did.

Q. Upon your oath did he not draw up these articles? - He did.

Q. What do you mean then? for God's sake tell us; when you came to accuse that honest man of felony? - I do not understand you.

Q. Now my good friend, I ask you on your oath, was not that man acting as a partner in your house? - Never.

Q. On your oath did not you go to that man and his wife, and seduce the articles of agreement from them? - Never.

Q. What did you go to that man's wife for? - I do not understand you.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-43
VerdictNot Guilty

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513. MARGARET KENNEDY and ANN KENE were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 17th of October , a silver watch, value 35s. the goods of William Kirkpatrick .


I am a painter .

Q. Did you light of the prisoner at the bar? - Yes, on the 17th of this month, Wednesday night, I believe it was between the hours of eleven and twelve; in Holborn; I was a little in liquor.

Q. Who were you with? - With William Yeates , that young man that stands here; they took us to Baldwin's-gardens ; there were two of them, and I gave one of them eighteen-pence to let me stay all night with her, that was Ann Kene ; I did not sleep with her, but I expected so; I lost my watch, I knew I had it in my pocket, it was a silver watch, I felt it in my pocket in the room, and had the chain in my hand. We went to bed, but we did not take off our clothes, we only took out coats off; about five o'clock I awaked, and my watch was gone, and they were both gone.

Q. Were you in bed with both? - Yes. The next morning when I lost my watch I was making enquiry in the house, and about the door, and there was some man told me where I might find them; I got an officer, and I went and found one of them in a house belonging to one Elizabeth Fowler ; Elizabeth Fowler pawned the watch, as I understand, and she was taken into custody because she could not find security.


Q. You were in company with the last witness? - Yes.

Q. You were both very much intoxicated? - Yes.

Q. You went with this woman to Baldwin's-gardens? - did you spend your night there, in the same room with the other witness? - Yes.

Q. And the same bed? - Yes.

Q. What time did you awake in the morning? - About five o'clock.

Q. Were the women gone? - Yes.


Q. Are you a pawnbroker? - Yes.

Q. Do you produce a watch? - Yes.

Q. Who pawned it with you? - Elizabeth Fowler.

Q. Did you see the prisoners at the bar? - Not till their Examination.

Prisoner Kennedy. That tall gentleman met with us in Holborn, and came home with us, and he laid himself on the bed, and insisted on laying there; and see had nothing but a few halfpence, and we would not go to bed with the gentlemen, until they would pay us; they laid they would pay us four shillings a piece in the morning, and he gave me a watch in my hand, to pawn it until the morning, and I gave it to this woman, Fowler, to pawn it for fifteen shillings, and so I went out, and it was nine o'clock in the morning before I came home, having got a drop too much.

Prisoner Kene. I was with this young woman, and these two men picked us up in Holborn; we were to have four shillings a piece in the morning, and he gave this young woman the watch to pledge.

Both not GUILTY .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-44
SentenceImprisonment > house of correction; Miscellaneous > fine

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514. JAMES ALICE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 14th of October , a hempen sack, value 1s. and five bushels of plaisterers hair, value 5s - the goods of John Thomas .


On the 14th of this month I bought a sack of hair, I ordered my servant to take

is to the building in the street, which he says he did.


Q. Are you the son of John Thomas ? - I am. On Wednesday, the 14th of this month my father bought the hair of a woman, and he desired me to take care of it, which I did, I see it carefully put into a house in the court.

Q. What time of the day did he buy it? - About four o'clock in the afternoon. The next day I went to look for it and it was gone.

Q. What time did you miss it? - It might be nine o'clock in the morning.

Q. Did you ever see it again? - I see it brought into Mr. Wilson's, in Paddington-street, by Mr. Alice's wife, into a public house.

Q. What day was this? - Thursday, about two or three o'clock in the afternoon.

Q. Did you know it to be your's? - Yes, by the patches in the sack; the sack was purchased at the same time he bought the hair.

Q. Can you swear to the sack? - I can.

Q. You cannot swear to the contents of it, I take it for granted? - I cannot.

Q. What was the number of the house where it was put? - The houses are not inhabited; they are building in York-court, joining East-street, Manchester-square .

Mr. Peate. Were you present when this sack was put in? - No, I was not present.

Q. Do you know the number of patches that was on this sack? - No, I don't know the number.

Q. Was there any thing particular in the colour of the patches? - They were black, the same colour as the sack.

Q. Were they all black? - I cannot tell.

Q. Patched in the common way? - Yes; sewed on in a rough manner outside, and a hole at one corner.

Q. Your father has got some houses in the court? - Yes.

Q. What way was that house kept, locked up or how? - The doors were nailed up, it is a new house.

Q. Were the windows and frames put in? - No, but there were shutters.

Q. Open in the day time? - Never.

Q. I suppose there were workmen of different kinds that had access to this house as well as the prisoner? - There were.

Court. Was the prisoner a servant? -He worked for my father, a sawyer .

Mr. Peate. Has your father any partner? - No, he has not.


Q. What are you? - A carpenter. On Thursday morning, the 15th of this month. I went down to the house that the prisoner lodged at; I went and asked whether the prisoner Alice, lodged there? he said he did, and was sorry for it; I asked what it was for? he said he was a very bad man, and there was a person there that told me that he brought a sack of hair there the last night. I went down and see the sack of hair there.

Q. At whose house was this? - No. 9, Blandford-mews, the person's name is Hale that keeps the house, the back of East-street, Manchester-square. I went up to Mr. Thomas's and asked them if they had lost any hair? they said they had; Mr. Thomas was not at home. I went and got a warrant for the prisoner; in the mean time I went for the warrant, the prisoner went away; but I met him on Thursday, the 15th, the bottom of Oxford-road, took him and called for a coach, and took him to the Apollo, at Paddington-street. When we got into the coach, he said to me, Mr. Dixon,

what must I do in this mess I said, the only thing that you can do is to acknowledge where the hair is gone. He sent his wife for the hair the same day, and I took the hair from off her head.

Q. Did you know from the prisoner whether they were his lodgings or not? - I did. I conveyed the hair to the justice.

Mr. Peate. You met the prisoner in Oxford-road, you say; that is not far from where he works? - A great way.

Q. In the day time, walking about in public? - I believe he wished to be hid, he tried to get away.

Q. Did any thing more pass between you and him besides what you have told his lordship? - He told me that he took it out of Mr. Thomas's house where he saw it.

Q. Did he tell you that he was directed by his master to take it out? - No, he did not.

Court. I have heard from another witness that this hair was at Mr. Wilson's, at Paddington-street, was that the Apollo? - It is.


I lodged in the same house where the prisoner lodged.

Q. How long have you lodged there? - About four months. I was washing on Wednesday the 14th, in the kitchen; I heard a noise coming down stairs, thinking it was my husband I called out, and no answer was made; I took the candle and went up, and Mr. Alice threw down a sack into the yard, an old sack with patches in it, and tied with lift.

Q. Was any thing in it? - Yes, hair for mortar. I looked into it after the prisoner was gone.

Q. What time of the day was this? - Near eight o'clock in the evening. It was carried away the next morning; I don't know by whom, I was out.

Mr. Peate. So you had a peep into the sack; you untied it? - I did, to satisfy my curiosity.

Q. How long had it lain there before you looked into it? - Not five minutes. I went immediately as I light him up stairs.

Q. Did you find any thing else in the bag? You felt, I warrant you? - Yes, I did.

Q. What colour were the patches? - The same colour as the sack.


I am Mr. Thomas's apprentice; I had got possession of these buildings where the hair was put; these five bushels of hair was put in about five o'clock; Mr. Thomas ordered it to be carried to the next house where I was at work, York court, East street; I see it lay there about six o'clock; I see the front shutters railed up, and I locked the door; and when I came the next morning the bolt of the lock was forced, and the shutters forced open, and the doors open, and the shutters broke; I missed the hair immediately as I came in.

Q. Did you ever see that sack afterwards? - Yes, I see it when it was brought to the Apollo public house by the prisoner's wife, by his order. Dixon had the conducting of it to Marlborough-street, and I brought it here.

Q. Do you know it to he same sack? - Yes.

Mr. Peate. Was it a brown sack patched with something of the same sort? - Yes.

Q. Brown patches? - Yes.

Q. You did not see it again till it came to the Apollo? - No, I did not.

Q. To Goodyer. Were you present when this sack was thrown down in the yard? - Yes, I held the candle to light him into the yard.

Q. Did the prisoner tell you that his master had given it him to give to the plaisterers? - He said no such thing; he did not say that to me.

Prisoner. I leave it to my counsel.

Mr. Peate to Tancock. Did you, at any time, give beer and money to the prisoner at the bar? - Never; I never gave him a farthing in my life.

Q. You often quarrelled about the saw dust, did not you? - I never quarrelled with him in my life.

Q. You never gave him your master's deals for the saw dust? - I never did in my life.

Q. You never used scurrillous words to him, in consequence of his not giving you the saw dust? - I had no occasion, because he did give it me.

The prisoner called two witnesses to his character.

GUILTY . (Aged 39.)

Imprisoned twelve months in the House of Correction and fined 1s.

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-45
VerdictGuilty; Guilty; Not Guilty
SentenceDeath; Death

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515. RICHARD BLAKE , CHARLOTTE GRUB , and ELIZABETH CANN were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 27th of October , a woman's box, value 1s. a silver watch, value 5l. a base metal seal, value 1d. a silver milk pot, value 1l. six silver tea spoons, value 8s. a woman's silk gown, value 10s. a black silk petticoat, value 18s. a black silk cloak, trimmed with thread lace, value 1l. 10s. a black silk teresa, trimmed with gauze, value 1s. a cotton petticoat, value 1s. 6d. a muslin gown, value 6s. a child's muslin frock, value 3s. a child's cotton frock, value 2s. a linen shirt, value 2s. three muslin handkerchiefs, value 4s. two muslin caps, value 8s. two silk sashes, value 3s. five yards of silk ribbon, value 5s. a callico night gown, value 1s. 6d. the goods of David Black , in his dwelling house .


Q. What is your husband's name? - David.

Q. Where do you keep house? - In Farmer-street . Mrs. Grub is a lodger of mine; she went away from my apartment between three and four o'clock on Monday evening; she did not return till Tuesday evening past six, and there was an old lodger of mine sitting by the fire side, when she came in, that had lodged with me almost three years, Mrs. Grub called him out, and then she went and sent me over the way for a little liquor, and it came into my head that something was not right there, I was resolved not to go so far as she sent me; and as I came back I see my box at my own door, half in and half out of doors, in the man's possession, Blake; he took the box from Mrs. Grub.

Q. You see that? - Yes. They went down the street both, and I hallooed out stop thief! and went after them, and got one of my neighbour's to take care of the place till I came back. I lost fight of them and went up New Gravel-lane, and came down to my own place; and when I came back again this Mrs. Grub was in the middle of the mob, pleading innocence, and asking what was the matter? and I told the women that were about her to take care of her till I went for an officer, and a man came up and took hold of her till an officer came.

Q. When was the man stopped? - The man came up to my next door neighbour and sent for a pint of beer, that very evening; I was then in pursuit of him; he was detained a few moments till the officer came and took him, and found

property about him, the watch and two tea spoons.

Q. What became of the box? - The officer got all the property the same night.

Q. The articles that you mention in this indictment, were they all in that box? - Yes; but they were not all found in that box. They found the property on C an.


I am servant to Mr. Nightly the pawnbroker; I produce two tea spoons.

Q. What may the value of these two spoons be? - Four shillings and sixpence. I took them in of the prisoner Cann, as her own spoons, at eight o'clock on Tuesday evening, in her own name.

Q. Did you give her a duplicate? - I did.


I am a pawnbroker; I produce two silver tea spoons.

Q. What may the value of them be? - Four shillings and sixpence.

Q. Who did you get them of? - Of Elizabeth Cann , on the 27th of October, in the evening, about eight o'clock.

Q. In her own name? - Yes.

Q. Did you give a duplicate? - Yes.

Q. That 27th of October was Tuesday evening? - Yes.


I am constable of the police office, Shadwell; I found two tea spoons on the prisoner Blake, as a house in Farmer-street, and one silver watch, last Tuesday evening, and one duplicate in his pocket book, of two tea spoons, pawned for four shillings; and I traced the duplicate with the pawnbroker, to Cann's lodgings.

Q. Which pawnbroker was it? - Nightly. It was in company with Mr. Haines, the other officer belonging to the police office, and Mr. Haynes found the other of this woman's property in the same room.

Q. Were you present? - Yes. I found likewise this key on Blake, which the woman claims to be the key of her padlock.


I produce some articles found in a court in Nightingale-lane, in Mrs. Cann's house, under the bed, a silk petticoat, and one gown, a blue silk gown, a black silk teresa trimmed with gause, a cotton petticoat, a muslin gown, a child's muslin frock, a child's cotton frock, a linen shift, three muslin handkerchiefs, two muslin caps, two silk sashes, five yards of silk ribbon, a callico night gown, and a check linen apron.

Q. Was the prisoner Blake in Cann's room at the time that you found them? - No.

Q. Did you ever see him in Cann's room? - Never.


I am a publican's daughter; when Mr. Blake went through our house with the box, I was standing in my father's taproom, and he said he would leave the box and call for it the next morning.

Q. Where is your public house? -Back-lane, Shadwell; my father and mother keeps it.

Q. Do you know the house of Mr. Black? - I do not.

Q. What day was it he brought it? - Tuesday night last, between seven and eight; he said it was his own, his name was Blake. He left the empty box there in the back parlour.

Q. Has it been delivered to the constable? - Yes, to Haynes.

Q. Should you know it again? - Yes.

Q. Have you any doubt about the person of Blake? - No.

Q. Had you ever seen him before? - Not to my knowledge; he is the person as far as I can recollect.


I am a servant; I am out of place now, and I live at my aunt's, in Birchin-lane; I was going up Farmer street, Tuesday evening, and the man came out with the box, and he almost knocked me down, he came out from Mrs. Black's house, between six and seven o'clock; I cannot swear to the man, I only just see the back of him; he ran down Parker's street.

Q. Did you see any woman with him? - No.

Q. To Elby. You say you found two tea spoons on Blake, where was that? -On his person in a house in Farmer-street.

Q. Was that where Cann lived? - No; within a door or two from where the prosecutor lived.

Q. You do not happen to know whether this Cann and Blake lived together? - No, I cannot say; I do not happen to know either of them.

Q. To Prosecutrix. What is the value of the tea pot? - Twenty shillings.

Q. A woman's silk petticoat? - Eighteen shillings.

Q. A black silk cloak? - Thirty shillings.

Q. A teresa? - One shilling.

Q. A muslin gown? - Eighteen shillings.

Q. A child's muslin frock? - Three shillings.

Q. A cotton frock? - Two shillings.

Q. A linen shift? - Two shillings.

Q. Three muslin handkerchiefs? -Four shillings.

Q. Two muslin caps? - Four shillings.

Q. Two sashes? - Three shillings.

Q. Five yards of white ribbon? - Six pence.

Q. A callico night gown? - Eighteen-pence.

Q. A check linen apron? - One shilling.(Deposes to them)

Prisoner Blake. Last Monday evening I went for the man that I work for, at Shadwell, to buy some leather, and I met this gentlewoman (Grub) at my return, and she called me in, and asked me if I would drink something? and I went in, and afterwards she took me to a night house; we staid there till the next morning, and so in the morning I had no money, and I went and laid down one of my cotton shirts (I am a sailor and shoe-maker by business) and we went and had some liquor, and she told me that her husband had bought her a deal of clothes and chairs, and she would not stay with him, that they were at Mrs. Black's, and she would pay me for taking them away; and she told me to bring them up to Mrs. Cann's house, where I left the box; and I opened the box immediately; and in the morning there was sixpence owing, and I left one of the spoons with this young woman's father, for sixpence till I returned; the watch I kept in my pocket, and two spoons, and then I went immediately near to this Mrs. Black's, not knowing they were her property, and they took me, and I immediately told where the bundle was, and immediately gave up the key.

Prisoner Grub. I know nothing about his taking the box; he used to come there and ill use me; have formerly lived with him, and I left my husband; I told him that I would not live with him any longer.

Prisoner Cann. This young man sent for me out of the public house, and de

sired me to go of an errand for him to pawn two spoons, which I did, and he asked me for the key of the door; I gave it him accordingly, and he went up stairs and left a bundle of things, and I did not know any thing of it, till the officer came and searched my room.

Court to Haynes. The publican's daughter has told us about a box that was taken from the house, was that so? - Yes, it was empty, and it has never been out of my custody since.

Richard Blake , GUILTY . Death .(Aged 22.)

Charlotte Grub , GUILTY . Death .(Aged 33.)

Elizabeth Cann , Not GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-46
SentenceImprisonment > newgate; Miscellaneous > fine

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516. EDWARD UNDERWOOD was indicted for that he, on the 2d of March 1789, at the parish of St. Mary, Whitechapel, did marry one Mary Harding ; and afterwards, to wit, on the 2d of December last, at the parish of St. Leonard, Shoreditch , feloniously did marry one Frances Harris , his former wife being alive .

(The case opened by Mr. Knapp.)


Q. Do you know the prisoner at the bar, Underwood? - Yes.

Q. Do you know Mary Harding ? - I have known her ever since I have been nine years of age. I see her yesterday and to day; she is here now. I was present on the 2d of March 1789, at White-chapel Church, where the prisoner and she were married, and I dined with them that day afterwards. She has been parted from him three years the 23d of next November.

Q. But they lived together after their marriage, as man and wife? - Yes.

Mr. Knowlys. I believe the marriage was not a happy one on their part, they disagreed a great deal? - Very little till lately.

Q. I believe she ran away with all the goods? - She did not go away with all the goods, with a few of them.

Q. What age is this lady? - Sixty-five next May.

Q. He is a very old man, turned of sixty? - I cannot say that; he was a very good looking man when she had him.


Q. Do you know Underwood, the prisoner? - Yes.

Q. Were you ever married to him? - Yes, two years ago, before next Christmas, I forgot the day of the month; at Shoreditch Church.

Mr. Knowlys. I believe you have had no children since you have been married? - No.

Q. Nor not very likely. Did the former wise over come to trouble you at all? - She did come two or three times to let us know that she was his wife, about six or eight weeks after we were married.

Q. But she did not prosecute him down to this time? - No.

Q. I suppose he had no fortune with you at all? - No, he had not.

Mr. Knapp. This prosecution is taken up by the parish? - Yes.

Mr. Knowlys. He is a poor man with one leg? - Yes.

GUILTY , Imprisoned three months in Newgate and fined 1s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-47
VerdictNot Guilty

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517. JAMES DEVYNE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the twenty-seventh of September , two pounds of soap, value 2s. two pounds and a half of sugar, value 18d. and three ounces of ginger, value 3d. the goods of George Pringle .


The prisoner was my servant . I am a grocer at the Seven Dials . On the twenty fourth of September I had some carpenters employed; one of the carpenters looking for a wedge at the top of the horse stall, found a parcel of soap laying there; there was no sugar there; that was on Thursday evening.

Q. What quantity was there? - To the amount of about three pounds nearly. He made my brother and apprentice acquainted with it that night. On the morning following I was told of it; the apprentice went over to the stable, and he brought the soap into the shop to let me see it. I desired him to replace the soap, to see whether there would be any more taken to it to the same place; it was yellow soap, and on Saturday morning there was some white mottled soap with it. I had occasion to go out of town on Sunday morning, and desired the prisoner to have the horse ready at eight o'clock; and I had some suspicion that he would take away the soap on Sunday morning, and desired my brother and the apprentice to watch that he did not take it away from the time of his getting up to the time that I went out of town. Before I went out, I went over to the stable, and charged him with having things belonging to me secreted in the stable. I said to him, you have some things secretly concealed belonging to me. I did not know of any sugar. I told him I would have a constable, and take him before a magistrate, if he did not tell me what he had concealed there.

Q. You must not tell what he said after that threat. - He want down on his knees among the litter, and brought some sugar out, about a pound and a half or two pounds. I told him he had some other articles there as well, and he denied that, but he brought the soap, about two pounds; he had the ginger concealed in his pocket, about two or three ounces, which he threw out as he was coming down the yard. I cannot swear to any part of the property.

Q. Did you miss any part? - I could not out of the quantity that we have.


I am an apprentice to Mr. Pringle. I went over to the stable on the twenty-fourth of September, towards the evening, and found only one piece of soap in the stable, and I went over on Friday morning, and I found four pieces. I then informed Mr. Pringle of it, and he went over with me, and between the times that I came and told Mr. Pringle, the prisoner had been over to the stable with the horse.

Q. Did the prisoner use to go to the stable? - Yes, three times a day constantly to feed the horse; he had taken two pieces away by the time that Mr. Pringle went over. I went over again on Saturday morning, and there were brought two pieces there of a different kind of soap, white soap.

Q. Other people might go to this stable besides the prisoner? - The stable was locked; there was nobody had any business there besides our own family.

Mr. Knowlys. You and the prisoner had words frequently together? - No.

Court. When you went to the stable, was the prisoner there at the time? - No.


I am a coach wheel maker. On the twenty-seventh of September, about eight o'clock in the morning, I was at work in

Church Passage, Compton Street, St. Giles's, opposite Mr. Pringle's stable yard. Mr. Pringle came to me and beckoned me to come to his assistance. I went with him; he charged the prisoner, that he had property of his concealed. I see him deliver the soap out, and it was delivered into my hands.

Q. To Prosecutor. Was it such soap as you told? - Yes, it was. He was a man that I had unlimited confidence in, and if any man had told me of it the night before, I should not have believed him; he was a man that served me, to all appearance, very faithfully, and very industrious.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-48
SentenceImprisonment > newgate; Miscellaneous > fine

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518. JAMES MONTETH was again indicted, for that he, on the twenty-eighth of September , with a certain offensive weapon and instrument, called a wooden stick, on Walter Smith , Esq . unlawfully, maliciously, and felonious did make an assault, with a felonious intent, the goods, chattels, and monies of the said Walter, against his will, feloniously and violently to steal .


On the twenty-eighth of September I was in Bond-street , going to the gunsmith, between nine and ten at night; the shop was shut up, and I did not recollect the Number. I see the prisoner in a watchman's coat, he had no lanthorn, he had a large stick. I asked him where the gunsmith's shop was, he made me no answer, but took me by the collar, held up his stick, and said, where is your money? where I say a word, and I will knock you down. I had the advantage of taking the stick in both my hands, which I did, and pushed him against the wall, being in so public a street, I thought I should get assistance, which I did, several people came, and took, him to the watch-house.

Q. Did he appear to be sober at the time? - Not knowing the man, I cannot say; he made use of a very queer expression afterwards, he said, insult me? would you insult the Prince of Wales? That was some considerable time after he was taken. At the time he first attacked me, there was not a single soul in the street, he had his watchman's great coat on, and some people said, let us examine, and see if he was a watchman or no; on examining further, we found that he was a watchman, but it was not his hour of being out.

Mr. Knowlys. Are you not inclined to think that he was intoxicated with liquor from his whole conduct? - I am sorry to say, I have reasons not to think so.

The prisoner called three witnesses to his character, and proved, that when he drank too much, he was like a madman.

GUILTY . (Aged 28.)

Imprisoned three months in Newgate and fined 1s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-49
SentenceDeath > respited

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519. JOHN LONGMEAD was indicted, for that he, with Thomas Perry , and John Fowler , and divers other persons, to the number of three persons and more, whose names are unknown, on the fifth of March, in the thirty-fourth year of his Majesty's reign ,

with force and arms, at the parish of Tallance, in the county of Cornwall , being armed with fire arms, and other offensive weapons, bayonets, guns, swords,&c. unlawfully did assemble together, in order to be aiding and assisting in taking away from David Llewyn , one of the officers of excise of our lord the King, one hundred gallons of foreign brandy, and one hundred gallons of foreign geneva, the said foreign brandy and foreign geneva being liable to custom duty, after sezure by the said David Llewyn .

The indictment opened by Mr. Knowlys, and the case by Mr. Attorney General.


Q. You are a supervisor of the excise at Bodman, in Cornwall? - Yes.

Q. I believe it was in the year 1794 that you, in consequence of an information, went to Port Parrow? - Yes.

Q. It will save time if you go slowly, and we I you story distinctly, that the gentlemen may hear you. What day of the month was it? - The fifth of March, 1794. I went to Port Parrow with Mr. Jeffries Spray, the officer of Bodmin, Mr. Barrlett, an excise officer of Fowey, Mr. William Ingham , officer of Lestwithiel, and fourteen soldiers, of the Yorkshire missing. In consequence of information, I went to Port Parrow, and we arrived there a little after day break; we called on a Mr. Pinsent, who was a Custom House officer in the town.

Q. Did he go with you as an assistant? - He went with us as an assistant.

Q. You had the warrants that you had prepared? - We had the warrants which we had prepared the evening before. We went first of all to the house of Mr. Benett, which Mr. Pinsent pointed out as a person of that description; we searched his house, and at the back part of his house there was a five gallon tub found, we seized it. That was in the yard, the back part of the house.

Q. That was all you found there? - Yes.

Q. After you had seized this, what did you next do? - We went to the house of one Horton? another person that we had a warrant against in the same town, and there we found nothing; from thence we went down the street, to the house of one Richard Rewitt . I had a description of the house by a lime kiln that stood opposite it.

Q. When you came, did you gain admission? - The door was shut. I knocked at the door, and requested the door to be opened, as I had a warrant to search; there was no answer whatever.

Q. What next did you do? - I repeatedly knocked at the door for admittance, but I discovered a key inside, and the door appeared to be locked. While I was knocking at the door, somebody called to me, that Richard Rewitt was coming.

Q. Was that from the street or in the house? - From the street. He came up to the stairs, to the top of the stairs of the dwelling house door; as they told me he was Rewitt, I did not know the man. I asked him if he was master of the house, he said he was, I then told him I had a warrant to search his house, and read the warrant to him; on this he went to the door, and attempted to open it, I told him that I believed the door was locked; then he called, open the door, there was no answer made, and went off; and seemed very much distressed and cried.

Q. Tell us what you did after you got in? - There was a cellar under the dwelling house, and in that cellar I could perceive there was some liquor; about the middle of the stairs there was a little window that opened into the cellar, which was made fast in the middle, with a kind of shutter over it; I stood on the stairs, and pushed open the shutter with my foot, it gave way, on which I see a

quantity of tubs slung with cords in the usual way. I requested a soldier to go in, a soldier went in, through the window, and opened the door, which was locked I believe. We then went in, and took one of the casks, and bored it with a gimbler, and tasted the liquor, and to the best of my recollection, it was brandy. We made the seizure, and I asked the Custom-house officer if he would give me leave to deposit the goods in his house, he readily said that we should put it in his house.

Q. Were you enabled to see what was the quantity in this house which was the object of your seizure? - There was a very large quantity, to the amount, very probably, of two hundred casks, to the best that we could determine.

Q. Then Mr. Pinsent being a resident there, you thought it a proper place to lodge it at his house? - Yes.

Q. Tell me of what part you made a seizure, and where it was conveyed to? -We seized all that was there.

Q. Was any of it removed from Rewit's house to the house of Pinsent? -We removed sixteen tubs to the house of Pinsent, containing sixty-five gallons of brandy. and fifteen of geneva.

Q. What happened from without that alarmed you? - We were alarmed by the firing of several guns or swivels. There was a report of several guns towards the key, out of my sight.

Q. Be so good as to describe to my lord and gentlemen the situation of Port Parrow, as it bears relation to a key there? - It is a little fishing cove, and there is a key there.

Q. There is a small pier there? - There is a small pier.

Q. How far was Rewitt's house from this pier? - A very little trifle, about two hundred yards. If you go round to go immediately to the water, it is a very trifling distance. I was apprehensive that the mob was assembling, and going to rescue the goods. I was insulted by several of the inhabitants. A man came up to me and cursed me, and called me all that was not good. That was not the prisoner.

Q. However, you met with insult? - Yes, saying they should soon be prepared, that I should not remove my bones from thence, and it was the last time I should come there.

Q. Was there in fact any assembly of people that came to annoy you? - There was a large number that came at last armed with guns and clubs, large sticks, and the prisoner at the bar had a bayonet, when I first see him.

Q. Speak to the number, how many might come towards you? - I dare say there were upwards of a hundred people in the street, but how many armed I cannot pretend to say, but a great many of them were armed.

Q. How long had they come up towards you, and done any thing, when you had an opportunity of seizing the prisoner, Long mead? - The soldiers were in the act of removing the goods, and the mob came upon them, and said, they should not carry them from thence; one of them went to the cellar door, and shut the door, who it was I don't know, and said, he would be d-ned if we should move any of those goods from there, that we should be murdered if we attempted to do it. The soldiers were drawn up. Mr. Pinsent requested me for God's sake not to let the soldiers fire, for, says he, if you do, we shall be all murdered. I told them that I did not come to molest them myself, and requested that they would let me take the goods out of town; they said, they would be d-d if they would, that they would sooner lose their lives than their property, and if we did not go

about our business, that they would murder as, or words to that effect.

Q. What situation were the tubs in when you got into the house of Rewitt's? - They laid in the cellar in rows, all slung in cords. With that mob I see the prisoner at the bar, he had a bayonet in one hand, with a suzee in the other, and he came up pretty close to me, and said, he would be d-d if he would not run me through. I believe him to be the same person. I never see him before that time, nor have I seen him after, till I took him up.

Q. Look at him now, do you believe him to be the person? - To the best of my recollection; he had a bayonet in one hand, and a suzee in the other, and swore he would run me through if I did not desist.

Q. Did you go on and continue? - I asked them at length, if they would let us take the goods out of the town? they said, they would be d-d if we should. On this I quitted the place, I thought my life was in danger.

Q. Now be so good as to describe the guns that you mentioned, how they were placed? - There was a gun in the street, it was a swivel, it was elevated and pointed towards us, it laid between the house were the goods were, and Mr. Pinsent's. I see powder on the touch of it, and an officer of mine told me, that there were three guns behind, that I did not see.

Q. So far as you observed yourself, did you see any other piece of ordnance of any kind? - No, only that one.

Q. How many guns might there be in the hands of the people, that were come up in this croud to you? - Really I cannot tell you upon my word. There might be four or five, or more, I cannot presume to say, but I can speak safely to that number, positively there were four or five. We returned then on this, and went to the public house, and called for some refreshment, and went home.

Q. You gave up the seizure? - We abandoned it. After we had got to the public house, I requested Mr. Pinsent to go down to see whether they were more cool, and inclined to give up the goods; that was about half an hour after. Whether he went or not, I cannot say, but he returned back, and said, it was of no use, they were not disposed to give up the seizure.

Q. Is that cellar of Rewitt's in your district? - No, it is not.

Mr. Shepherd. You have been some time an officer of excise? - I have been twenty years or more in the employ.

Q. Have you been long stationed at Cornwall? - Ten years at Bodmin.

Q. When you went into Mr. Rewitt's cellar, and see these things, did you bring the casks out? - Sixteen only were taken out.

Q. What has become of these sixteen? - They have been condemned by the Exchequer, and sold. They were secured in Pincent's house.

Q. There was a question that my learned friend put to you, that you did not give any answer to. How long after this was it that you first see the man that you suppose to be the prisoner Longmend? - I cannot tell the exact time. I did not see him on the first beginning of the mob, it was near the conclusion of the business.

Q. So I understand, but I want to know how long it was after the mob had assembled before you see him? - It was almost over, the mob had assembled for about half an hour, or thereabouts.

Q. Consequently at this time you must be very much alarmed? - I was certainly.

Q. You had never seen him before nor since till he was taken up. Now how many months might elapse between the time that this affray happened and the time that he was taken up? - It is a long time; from March, 1794, till within a month ago.

Q. That is, I believe, a year and a half? - Yes, so it is.

Q. And you had never seen the man before nor since till that time, nor did you see him on that day till the latter end of the business, and after you were very much agitated? - I see him in the street afterwards walking, while we were in the public house refreshing ourselves.

Q. What made you say then when my friend asked you the question, that you had never seen him before the time that the affray happened, nor after, until the time that he was taken up? - Not that day.

Q. Did you point out any other man of the mob? - A man that I had known before.

Q. Did you point out any other man in the mob whom you had not known before, and whom you had not seen for a considerable number of months after? - There is a man that I think I should know if I was to see him.

Q. The next time that you see this man was after he was taken up? - Yes.

Q. So that you had never seen him from that day till after he was taken up, and pointed out to you as one of the men. Then the first time that you recognized him as one of the men was after he was pointed out to you as one of the persons that had been in the mob? - Yes.

Q. How long will you venture to say you see him in the mob? - Not a long time, but he was more particular in having a bayonet.

Q. More than half a minute? - Five or six minutes at least.

Q. You mean to swear that? - I do. I dare say I see him for four or five minutes in the mob.

Q. What did you say that he had in his hands? - He had a gun and a bayonet.

Q. Do you mean to swear that he had a piece of fire arms in his hands? - Yes, I do, positively.

Q. Pray are you the gentleman that was a witness in the Court of King's Bench two or three years ago? - I have been a witness in several causes.

Q. What countryman are you? - I am a native of South Wales.

Q. Then probably you are the same man that was very near being committed for perjury in the Court of King's Bench, and gave as a reason for what you said, that you did not understand English? - No, I know nothing of it.

Q. Then you were never resrobated by a Judge in the Court of King's Bench for the evidence that you had given, and gave as a reason for what you said, that you did not understand English? - I do not recollect the circumstance, nor nothing like it.

Q. Perhaps I may have mistaken the Court, was it in the Court of Exchequer? - It was not, never such a thing ever happened in any Court Whatever, positively, upon my oath.

Q. Are you an officer of the excise? - I am.

Q. How long is it since you have been threatened to be dismissed? - I have been threatened by the smugglers, but by nobody else.

Q. How long is it since you had a representation that you were likely to be dismissed from the office? - There have been impeachments by smugglers, but they could not make good the impeachments.

Q. Do you mean to say, that you had not a caution given you by your employers? - I have been cautioned once or twice by my superiors.

Q. Have you not been told, that if you did not conduct yourself very different, you would be dismissed from the service? - I have not.

Q. What do you call, a caution? - A miss of the pen, or irregularity of duty.

Q. How long before you swore to this man was it you were cautioned? - I cannot pretend to say, I don't recollect, fourteen or fifteen years ago.

Q. And never since? - I don't know that I have any business to answer these questions, if the commissioners ask me these questions I will answer them.

Court. Are you under any censure at present? - Not in the past.

Mr. Shepherd. Then for the space of eighteen months you had never seen this man? - I see him that day afterwards, I told you so.

Mr. Fielding. Where did you take him up? - At Port Parrow.

Q. Is there any foundation for the suposition that you have been reprobated in any court of justice for evidence that ever you gave? - Never in my life.

Q. How long have you been an officer of excise? - I have been one twenty years.

Q. Will you be so goods as to explain what you mean by a caution? - For mere irregularity in our duties, making a change in a figure, or any thing of that sort.


Q. I believe you are an officer of excise, at Bodmin, in Cornwall? - I was at the time that this took place.

Q. Did you accompany Mr. Llewyn and the soldiers, and the party that went to Port Parrow? - Yes, I did.

Q. When you got there tell us what passed? - We searched two houses, in the first we found five gallons of spirits.

Q. Had you any search warrant with you? - Mr. Llewyn had with him.

Q. Whose house was that? - They were just at the back door, thrown out as I came up.

Q. Whose house was it? - I do not recollect.

Q. What was that five gallons contained in? - In what they call tubs in that country.

Q. How was that tub fastened? - There were small cords about it, what we call slung.

Q. Is that the way in which the smugglers usually carry their brandies and liquors? - Yes, it is.

Q. After you had found this cask where did you go then? - We searched another house, and found nothing in that; we then went to Richard Rewitt 's house; Mr. Llewvn went to the front door of the house, and demanded entrance, we found the door ladened, it was locked, Mr. Pinsent, the custom house officer, said, that Rewitt was coming up.

Q. Did he afterwards appear? - He did; Llewyn shewed him the warrant, he demanded entrance, he desired them to open the door; there was no person spoke on the inside; Mr. Llewyn then came down all the way of the steps, and there was a window to the cellar which gave way, and he saw tubs in the cellar; he ordered a soldier into the cellar, and he unbolted the cellar door.

Q. How many tubs were there? - A great quantity, between two and three hundred, all slung, that I see at least.

Q. In the usual way that smugglers carry them? - Yes.

Q. What then? - We went about removing of these tubs to the custom house officer's house, Mr. Pinsent's.

Q. Who do you mean by we? - Mr. Llewyn, and part of the soldiers that were with us. There was a person just as we began, came up to the cellar and said, if we did not withdraw -

Q. That was not the prisoner? - It was not.

Q. Was there any mob assembled at that time? - There was not. We went about removing the goods, and as

I returned from Mr. Pinsent's house, one soldier said there were three swivels brought up, I looked and see three swivels, they were pointed towards the cellar door, where the tubs were deposited; I ordered four or five soldiers to six their bayonets, and walk with me to the swivels; I then returned to the cellar door, and found the street was full of men.

Q. In what situation were those men? - There were several of them armed with guns and susees.

Q. How many do you think were armed with guns? - I believe I see myself just there, eight or ten or a dozen, I cannot say, but I think so; the street was very narrow, and they came up very close to us.

Q. Besides that were there any others armed in any other way? - Yes, I observed several with large sticks in their hands.

Q. What did they do when they came up close to you? - They threatened that if we did not leave the goods, and take ourselves off, that they would murder us; one of them catched the banger that I had in my hand, and threatened to run me through with it; I told him that he would be called to an account for his conduct, and desired him to give it up to me again, which he did. Mr. Llewyn told them he would not wish to have any blood spilt, that he would withdraw, he found that they were more in number a great many than we were. Then we withdrew to the public house.

Q. Before you had withdrawn to the public house, had you seen how Llewyn was treated? - Yes; there was a person with a susee and bayonet fixed on it, first, and afterwards I see him with the susee and bayonet not fixed, the susee in one hand, and the bayonet in the other.

Q. What did that person do? - I see him afterwards with the bayonet in his hand, pointing the bayonet at Mr. Llewyn, and he swore he would run him through.

Q. Do you know what became of the susee, I don't know indeed; I recollect seeing the bayonet pointed at Mr. Llewyn.

Q. Should you recollect the person again if you was to see him? - I do not.

Q. Look round about the court? - I believe that to be the man, but I cannot positively swear to it, I never see him before nor since.

Q. What became of these tubs that you had seen? - We lodged them in the custom house officer's house; the mob obliged a soldier, and I believe one of the officers, to lay down four in the street, which I took up and carried them back to the cellar. When they came up and insisted on having the cellar door shut, we shut the cellar door, and withdrew to the public house.

Q. Do you know whether any attempt has been made to take any people concerned in this business since? - O, yes.

Q. How long after this matter happened was there any attempt to take any body? - Upon my word I cannot justly say the time.

Q. I do not mean to a day; how long think you? one month or six months? - It may be four, five, or six months after this happened.

Q. Were you here when the bill was found by the grand jury? - Yes, I was.

Q. Was there an attempt to take them after the bill was found? - Yes.

Q. How long after that time? - It might be a month or six weeks.

Q. Were you present when the attempt was made? - We had soldiers, a hundred and three private soldiers from Maker camp.

Q. Were you able to take any body? - No, they had made their escape, they were gone.

Q. Who did you go to take? - We went to take the persons that were indicted, their names were Liddy, and Perry, and Longmead.

Q. Were you at last able to carry off any of these spirits that you had seized? - No, we left it at the custom house officer's house, on account of the mob being so powerful that we could not.

Q. Who had the warrant for searching Rewntes house? - Mr. Llewyn.(Llewyn produces it.)

Mr. Const. The tubs that were actually removed, were taken before this riot commenced? - Yes.

Q. After the riot commenced, and got at the length that you have described, nothing was taken? - No.

Q. Therefore what these tubs contained that were left behind, you cannot say? - No.

Q. You talk of a man, not the prisoner, that took your cutlass, the disposition of that man however was such, that on your demanding your cutlass he gave it back to you? - Yes, he did.

Q. You say you saw a man with a susee and bayonet fixed? - Yes.

Q. You afterwards saw that man in a threatening posture to Mr. Llewyn, with the bayonet in his hand; can you say whether he had a musket in his hand at that time? - I cannot say, I do not recollect seeing it at the time; I did not take particular notice, I cannot say whether he had or had not.

Q. I observed you was desired to find out this man; you have been in courts of justice before? - Yes; I have never been here before.

Q. Then of course you look at the bar for the person that you want to find out.


Q. You are the officer of the excise at Fowey? - Yes.

Q. You went with Mr. Llewyn and the party on the 4th of March? - Yes.

Q. Do you know the person of Longmead? - Yes.

Q. You knew his person? - Yes.

Q. Did you see him there in the mob on that day? - Yes.

Q. Did you know him before? - No, not to my knowledge.

Q. Have you ever seen him since that day, before you see him now? - I see him since, but whether it was the day we were there, or the day we brought the goods from there, two or three days after, I cannot be positive, but I took particular notice of him, that I might recollect him.

Q. My question is, whether the person whom you recognized there, or four days after the obstruction was over, whether you see him amongst the mob when the obstruction happened? - I see him among the mob. I see him with the susee in his hand, and he had a bayonet on the susee, pointed at Mr. Llewyn.

Q. What did he say at the time he was doing this? - I cannot say any particular expression that he made use of, but he made some threatening words, what he would do.

Q. Were you at the time in the act of seizing these things? - We had the goods in our possession at the time that I see him.

Q. What was the behaviour of the mob at the time that you see him with this susee? - I heard a man say to Mr. Llewyn, d-n thy eyes, Llewyn, I will have thy blood before thou goest out of the place; and he bent his piece at the same time at Mr. Llewyn.

Q. Did you see how many men might have arms at that time? - I can answer that; I see five or six with arms.

Q. Did you see the swivels? - I see a small cannon or swivel, I see the priming of it at the top.

Mr. Shepherd. Did you see these casks that were taken from the soldiers? - I see two casks that were dropped in the street, I don't know who took them, they were brought back to the cellar by some person.

Q. To Rewitt's cellar, where they were left? - Yes.

Q. I think you say the bayonet was on the susee? - It was on the susee.

Q. You had never seen this man before? - I never had seen him before.

Q. There were a great number of persons assembled? - There were a great number, and a great deal of confusion.

Q. No little alarm? - No, there was not.

Q. It was quite at the latter end of the business when you see him? - I do not recollect seeing him at the beginning.

Q. And except that you see him two or three days afterward, you had not seen him till that time that he was taken up? - I don't know that I ever have.

Q. I think you say that these that had been secured in Mr. Pinsent's cellar were secured before the mob came? - Just at the time that the mob were coming on, I believe there were some few casks that were taken to Mr. Pinsent's house.

Mr. Fielding. Did you see in what situation the casks were? - They were slung.

Q. That is usual with smugglers? - It is.


Q. You are the custom house officer at Port Parrow? - Yes.

Q. Do you know John Longmead? - Yes.

Q. Did you know him before? - Yes, I knew him many years before the 5th day of March.

Q. Did you see Longmead in that assembly on that day? - Yes.

Q. Was he armed? - He had go a gun and bayonet fixed.

Q. You have been a custom house officer there a great many years? - Nine and twenty years.

Mr. Shepherd addressed the court, that as yet there had been no evidence given that these goods that were taken back to the cellar were uncustomed goods.

Court. That is a circumstance to leave to the jury, they were in the same sort of packages, and slung in the same way.

Mr. Attorney General. The evidence that has now been given, is that sort of evidence that is constantly in cases of a like nature.

Mr. Shepherd to Pinsent. Have you known the prisoner some time? - Yes; before this time he had a very excellent character; I have known him from a child, he has always borne a good character.


Q. Do you live near Port Parrow? - Yes.

Q. Do you know the prisoner? - Yes, I have known him these twelve years; he bears a very good character as far as I know, a very peaceable man, I suppose there were an hundred people of the parish that would have come and given him a character, if they could have borne their expences.

GUILTY . (Aged 25.)

Convicted capitally, but Judgment respited, by order of the Court .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-50
VerdictGuilty; Guilty; Not Guilty
SentenceImprisonment > newgate; Miscellaneous > fine

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520. THOMAS PARTLETT , ELEANOR BARTLETT , and ROBERT GRANT were indicted for that they, on the 1st of October , a piece of sals, feigne, and counterfeit copper money, to the likeness of the good and legal money of this realm, called a halfpenny, unlawfully and feloniously did make, coin and counterfeit , against the form of the statute.


On Thursday, the 1st of October, in consequence of an information we had received, that there were persons in Dean's-court, St. Martin's Le Grand , coining of halfpence; I, in company with Sayers, Rivett, Kennedy, and some other officers, went to that house, when we were got there Sayers shoved up the window, and jumped into the house, and one of the other officers opened the door and let me in; I went along the passage to go down stairs, and the first person that I me, naked, was the prisoner Bartlett; he was without his shirt, just at the brink of the cellar stairs, quite up in a nook, it was quite dark in that part; indeed; I did not see him till I felt a naked man; I brought him out, and brought him up, and afterwards went down stairs, and there were four candles a light in the cellar, and the press fixed, where we found a large quantity of copper cut; after that we looked for the dies a considerable time; finding some of the dies, and not finding all, we asked the prisoners where they had put them? they went down stairs with us, both of them, and in the same cellar where the press was, on a little shelf they pulled out the dies, and gave them to us; I think there are three pair of them, or more. We then secured them of course, and took them away. We have got all the things away.

Q. When was the first time, and where, that you see the other prisoner? - I did not see him till he was brought into the front room, in the custody of the other officers; he was naked also.

Q. I would only ask you whether the cellar stairs, on which you met, or found the prisoner Bartlett, led to any other place? - Close to the cellar stairs there was a pair of stairs that went up stairs, but the prisoners on being asked did not deny that they came out of the cellar, they said, don't use us ill, and we will be civil, which they certainly did behave very civil, and very proper. Here is every thing here, a vast quantity of halfpence finished, a great quantity indeed. They were cutting that day, not finishing.


In consequence of an information we went to this Dean's-court, in St. Martin's Le Grand; on entering the court I see a window a little open, I went to the window and flung it up, and jumped in, and went to the head of the stair case, where I heard the voice of some men, saying, we are here! we are coming!

Q. Where did that voice come from? - From below apparently, from towards the cellar, to the best of my hearing. Immediately Bartlett comes up, first, without his shirt; after him (I am not positive whether the other man followed or the woman) the other man came up without his shirt likewise, and a woman apparently in the same way; the woman was without a cloak or bonnet. I immediately got a candle and went down stairs into the cellar.

Q. Was the light in the cellar when you got down? - Yes; two or three, or more candles burning on each side of the press.

Q. What time of the day was this? - I believe it was after twelve o'clock, to the best of my recollection. I then see a vast quantity of copper round the press; I put my fingers into the cups, supposing them to be dies, and they were very hot; I then came up stairs, and was informed by one of my brother officers that they had found a die with a stamp; the prisoners were secured in the parlour, and I told the prisoners it would save us a deal of trouble if they would tell where they were, for we should not leave the house till we found the dies; they asked to be

unhandcuffed, which they were, and went down into the cellar and discovered where the dies were, and helped us take up the press, and behaved very civil indeed; round the press I found a few halfpence that were struck, these are two, (produces them) these are the sort they were at work at (produces a blank) and a vast quantity more.


I found some seisale up in the first floor, and a die up in the garret, and I have also got some blank halfpence. (Produced.)


I found a great quantity of halfpence, some in the woman's pocket. (Produced.)

Q. To Sayer. Is every thing there complete for coining halfpence? - Yes.

Q. To Townsend. Whose house was this? - The landlord was sent for to Bow-street, he denied letting the house to the prisoners, but the prisoners admitted its being their house.

Q. Prisoner Bartlett. I am married to my wife.

Prisoner Grant. I know nothing about it; I was in the house, but I had a smock strock on.

Thomas Bartlett , GUILTY .

Robert Grant , GUILTY .

Imprisoned six months in Newgate and fined 1s.

Eleanor Bartlett , Not GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-51
VerdictNot Guilty

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521. MARY HENDERSON was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 17th of October , three check linen shirts value 6s. the goods of Richard Liddle .


I come to prove my property found on the prisoner.

Q. Did you know the prisoner at the bar before? - I never see her but once before.

Q. Where were your things kept? - In my chest at home in my own room.

Q. Was it open or shut? - Open, not locked, in my bed chamber.

Q. When had you seen them the last time before they were stole? - About two months before.

Q. Where were they found? - At the pawnbroker's. I am only a lodger in the house.

Q. Who keeps the house? - Sarah Porter .

JOHN WADE sworn.

I am servant to Mr. Hyam, the pawnbroker, in Nightingale-lane.

Q. Do you know the prisoner? - Yes.

Q. Do you remember her coming to your master's shop? - Yes.

Q. What did she pawn? - Three curtains, in the name of Mary Henderson. She told me they were her own.

Q. How long ago was this? - The 17th of October, for four shillings.(Produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. They were given me, and I pawned them.

Prosecutor. I went to look after some other property, and I found the duplicate for the curtains in the house where she lodged; she lodged in the one pair of stairs, and I found the duplicate under a brick in the two pair of stairs.

Prisoner. They were given to me all of them by the person that stole them, a waterman, at Union Stairs, Richard Christopher ; I did not know they were stole; he was in a public house, and he gave them me to pawn them.

Q. You knew him? - Yes; and I desired the constable to go after him; and

he said he had no business to go after him. I have been kept in prison ever since last Sunday, and had nobody to go and seek the man.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-52
VerdictNot Guilty

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522. MARY HENDERSON was again indicted for feloniously stealing, on she 10th of October , a muslin cloak, with the cape trimmed with thread lace, value 3s. the goods of Sarah Porter .


Q. You keep a lodging house? - Yes, in Nightingale-lane .

Q. Did you lose a muslin cloak at any time? - Yes.

Q. How was the cape? - It was trimmed with thread lace.

Q. What do you know of the prisoner's taking it? - I suspected it; she had been in my house in the course of a week, and I suspected her.

Q. When had you seen it last before it was stolen? But a few days; I had seen it the Sunday before. I went out to work near a week, and left the care of the house to a little boy.

Q. And was the prisoner at your house? - Yes, she lodged in my house, had a room, she and a custom house officer, whom I supposed to be her husband.

Q. Where did you keep your cloak? - In a open chest, in Mr. Liddle's bed chamber.

- WADE sworn.

Q. Do you produce the cloak? - Yes; the prisoner brought it to my master's house and pawned it for eighteen-pence, the 4th of October.

Q. To Prosecutrix. What day was it that you missed it? - I cannot tell particularly, because I was out, I went out on Monday, and I missed it when I can't home on Thursday; it was there on Monday.(Produced and deposed to)

Prisoner. The bundle with the curtain and white cloak were both in a pocket handkerchief, and the other in another handkerchief. This gentlewoman knows as well as I do, very well, she was out a washing, and this waterman came to see me when I was at home, and this Mr. Liddle's chamber door was wide open, and he went in and threw himself on Mr. Liddle's bed, and two days afterwards he called on me and gave me a cloak to pawn, and I went and pawned them; and about a week afterwards he brought the curtains, and I pawned them.

prosecutrix. My child told me that she had done an imprudent thing, in bringing a strange man into my apartment, and likewise laying on a bed she had no business with; I told her she had no business to let a strange man into my apartment.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-53

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523. MARY HENDERSON was again indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 24th of October , a kerseymere waistcoat, value 7s. a linen towel, value 1d. five linen shirts, value 10s. two linen pocket handkerchiefs, value 2s. a silk handkerchief, value 1s. the goods of William Chalk .


I live in Berkshire.

Q. Where did you lodge when you lost these things? - With Sarah Porter .

Q. What did you lose? - Five shirts,&c.

Q. On what day? - Sunday morning, after I came to town.

Q. When did you come to town? - The 19th. I don't know who took them.

JOHN WADE sworn.

Q. Do you produce the things? - Yes.

Q. Did the prisoner pawn the things at your house? - Yes.

Q. To Prosecutor. When had you seen the things the last time before you missed them? - The 18th, the day before I came to town.

Q. You had not seen them after you came to town? - No, not till I came to search for them and missed them.(The things deposed to.)

Prisoner. I see nothing belonging to the bundle till last Wednesday; the same that stole the other bundle stole that, as I suppose; I did not know it till Sunday morning.

GUILTY . (Aged 24.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-54
VerdictNot Guilty

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524. SARAH DUNSTAN otherwise JONES was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 24th of October , a callico shawl, value 1s. 6d. a pair of worsted stockings, value 6d. a callico bed gown, value 18d. the goods of Richard Rossiter .


Q. Are you the wife of Richard Rossiter? - Yes.

Q. Where do you live? - No. 1. Newport-street . Last Saturday I lost two pair of worsted stockings, and a callico shawl, and a callico bed gown; at the same time I lost a black shirt, but not found on her.

Q. From what part of the house did you lose these things? From the from parlour; the callico bed gown was in a box; the shawl was in the back parlour.

Q. Did you see the property taken away? - No, I did not.

Q. At what time of the day had you seen your property? - A few minutes before I called for the shawl to be washed through a clear lather, which my daughter brought to me.

Q. Did you see the prisoner in your house before? - Yes, a few minutes before, and talked with her.

Q. What was she doing in your house? - I had been myself in trouble, on an indictment for an assault on a lodger, and I was in Tothill Fields myself, on a beach warrant, and she was there too, and that was the way I see her. I missed my things, and my child pursued her; the child brought her back, and the things immediately.


Q. Are you the daughter of that good woman? - Yes.

Q. Last Saturday did you see the prisoner in the house? - Yes, all day, from breakfast time.

Q. Did you happen that day to see the things that were lost? - I see the shawl, my mother called to me to bring it out to wash, and I brought it out of the back kitchen to her, and I am not sure whether I put it on the table or on the chair.

Q. At that time did the prisoner go out of the house? - At dark. I was in the front parlour making my mother's bed, and I left her in the front parlour, and she said my mother told her to come and rub the things, and while I was making the bed I missed her, and I told my mother, my mother said, she has taken my shawl! and I went out after her, and I went to the pawnbroker's, and

the things were not there, and coming one of the passage of the pawnbroker's. I met her at the corner of Old Tothill-street, and another girl with her, and the girl crossed into a clothes shop, and I followed her, and Sarah Dunstan went to go down the stop.

Q. Had she any of the things with her then? - Yes.

Q. Did you get the things from her? - I got them in the Park, one thing. I got a soldier for to stop her first, and the soldier whispered to her, and dragged her from me, and I got the shawl from her in Dartmouth street, she gave it me there herself. (The bed-gown produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. My prosecutor was acquitted on Friday, and I was cleared about nine o'clock at the ball, and I went to her house in the evening. She told me that she bed gown was much better than my own things. She gave it me to go out and get her a little money, and the shawl likewise, and I went out in the dusk of the evening to get a little money. I was crossing Tothill-street, and this girl met me. The prosecutor told me, that she kept a house for girls, and that she had two girls that went out of nights, and that was why I went to her house.

Court to Prosecutor. How many girls have you in your house now? - None but a married woman, except one young woman, that her uncle allows her a maintenance down at Tooting.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-55
VerdictNot Guilty

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525. MARY CLARKE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the second of October , two pieces of printed callico, containing fifty yards, value 3l. the goods of Edward Gibson , privately, in his shop .


I keep a linen-draper's shop in Bishopsgate-street . I was informed by my shopman, that he had missed a piece of print, and had made diligent search for it, and could not find it. I applied to the police office in Worship street, offering a reward of five guineas if they should meet with the print in their walks. I applied to Harper, Monday, October the twelfth, I believe about the middle of the day. I heard nothing from them respecting the prints, but on Wednesday, the fourteenth, a gentleman came to my house, and in consequence of information, I went to the public office, in Goodman's-fields, on the fourteenth, and I see the very print there that I had lost. I think it was in the afternoon, in Little Ailiff-street, Goodman's fields; the officers has kept it. The prosecutor's husband has applied to me since, and offered.

Mr. Knowlys. We must not hear what the prisoner's husband said in her absence.


I am apprentice to Mr. Gibson. The prisoner is the person that was in the shop on Friday, the second of this month, between six and seven in the evening.

Q. What is your master? - A linen-draper.

Q. What passed when she was in the shop, was any body else in the shop? -Only the young men that serve in the shop, no customers.

Q. How many shopmen had you in the shop? - Three other persons in the shop besides myself. When she came in, she desired me to shew her some prints for a servant's gown. I shewed her several,

she begged me to shew her some my lock stripes, which I did, and after I had shewn her a great quantity, she refused having them, said they would not wash, and were not sit for a servant. I then were going to turn over the prints to shew her some that were among the laylock stripes, and she said, no, I will not have it, reach me that off the hinder shelf, then she desired me to cut her six yards of it, after that she opened a pocket book, and took out a pattern, and asked me if we had any thing to match that? we had nothing like to the pattern, but I shewed her one which she approved of better than her pattern, which was a remnant of eight yards. She then looked over two or three others, which she hung down the sides, to see which would look best, She had a little child with her, which was very troublesome, and she made a sad shuffling about the shop. She threw her down some halfpence, and she was for ten minutes picking up these. After I had served her, she begged of me to do up the things in two parcels, for one she durst not carry home, because she said Mr. Smith would not approve of it; I asked her whether I should send the parcel home? she said no, she said she lived in Prince's-street, Spital-fields; I opened the door, and wished her a good evening. She bought a gown for her servant, a remnant of eight yards of print, and a petticoat, and some other things. I believe she paid two pounds four shillings and five pence. I believe that was the sum. On the tenth we missed a piece of chintz print, which I perfectly remember shewing this person; that was on Saturday.

Q. Is that the thing that you complain of being stolen? - Yes, and the laylock stripe.

Q. How much does the two pieces contain? - I believe about fifty yards. This piece I remember shewing it to the prisoner at the bar, and she refused taking it, and I remember folding it up, and laying it on her side, and I never see it afterwards till I see it at the office.

Q. You have described two pieces in the indictment, and you tell us that you only missed one? - No, we did not miss the other. I see them both at Ailiff street office. I cannot recollect the day of the month. I see it laying on the bar before the justice of the office.

Mr. Knowlys. This happened on the second of October? - Yes.

Q. You keep four persons besides yourself? - There are four persons besides Mr. Gibson.

Q. Has your master any partner? - No, he has not.

Q. Now you served this woman? - Yes. I did.

Q. I suppose you took away and put up the goods that you had taken out of their places, that lay on the counter? - Those goods that I had been shewing to her I took out of the window.

Q. Did you put them in their places again? - Yes, I did, after she was gone.

Q. And then you missed nothing? - No, I did not, I shewed her such a great quantity.

Q. It was not till eight days after, namely, the tenth, that these pieces were at all perceived to be missing? - No, it was not.

Q. There might be some hundreds of customers between the second and the tenth? - There might.

Q. I think you say, she laid out two pounds four shillings with you? - I cannot be not positive. It was thereabouts.

Q. You do not call that a bad customer that lays two pounds four shillings with you? - We call it a middling one, neither a bad customer nor a good one.

JOHN EDDY sworn.

I am a shopman to Mr. Gibson.

Q. Do you remember the prisoner coming into the shop? - Yes, I do, Friday evening, the second of October, about six or seven o'clock in the evening, we light candles before the went out. I don't know whether we had when she came in. She came in, and asked to look at some printed cottons. Our young man shewed her a great many. She laid out about two pounds four and five pence in different articles. She might be in the shop about an hour, or not quite so much. She went out after she had paid for what she had had. On the tenth, I missed a piece of goods, we searched all over the shop, and could not find it. I missed a piece of chintz printed callico. It had my mark on it, I know the pattern very well. The Friday following I told Mr. Gibson. I never found it no more. I see it the Wednesday or Thursday in the officer's custody.

Mr. Gurney. We understand there are two persons more employed in the shop besides you and the last witness? - Yes, there are.

Q. Your shop is a shop of a good deal of business? - It is.

Q. It is of course impossible for you to know what your fellow servants may fell when you are out of the way? - It is.

Q. Then of your own knowledge it is impossible for you to know that this piece was not sold by any of your fellow servants that are not here? - I know I never sold it.

Q. It was not till eight days after this woman was in your shop that you thought you lost this piece? - No, I did not miss it before.


Q. You are servant to Mr. Gibson? - Yes, I am. I see the piece of Chintz print in the window the same day that the prisoner was in our house, about six o'clock in the evening, or a little after. I never sold the print, nor ever recollect seeing it in out shop since that day.

Q. Have you ever seen it any where else? - I see it in the officer's hands.


I am servant to Mr. Gibson. I remember this woman being in the shop she had got a child, and dropped several halfpence. She was picking them up, and at last I picked up one, and laid it on the counter, that is all I know about it.

Q. How long might she be in the shop? - I do not remember.

Q. Did you see her take any thing? - I did not.

Q. To Hopps. Did you see her take any thing? - I did not.

Q. To Eddy. Did you you see her take any thing? - I did not.


I am an officer belonging to the police, Whitechapel. I do not produce any thing in this indictment.


I am an officer belonging to the police, Whitechapel. I produce these two pieces of print.

Q. Are they printed callico? - I believe they are.

Q. How many yards do they contain? - I cannot justly say the yards. On Wednesday, the fourteenth, we went to Mr. Clarke's house, looking over the prints, we brought these away, which, before the magistrate, Mr. Gibson proved to be his.

Q. Who is Mr. Clarke? - The husband of Mrs. Clarke.

Q. Where do they live? - In the New Road. It appeared to me to be a linen

draper's shop. Mr. Gibson applied to me the night-before.

Q. Then you went to the house of these people? - I did.

Q. Where did you get these things? -From the shop. Hanson brought them out of the shop, they were exposed for sale I believe. I brought them away, and have had them in my custody ever since.

(Mr. Gibson deposes to the prints by their pattern, and the marks being his shopman's hand writing, and he had never sold them.)

Mr. Knowlys to Mr. Gibson. You are a married man? - I am.

Q. Your wife assist you in the shop? - No, she does not. She has the misfortune to be hard of hearing, and very unfit to be in a shop.

Q. The mark is as visible and plain on it now as it was on the second of October? - It is.

Q. There is no attempt to take it out? - There is not.

Q. If this person took it, she had it eight days, and therefore had time to remove all evidence, yet the shop mark is as evident now as it was when you lost it.

(Turner likewise deposes to the goods, and Eddy.)

Mr. Gurney to Eddy. The marks are just at the end of the pieces? - They are.

Q. These marks might be cut off without any injury to the piece itself? - Most undoubtedly they might.

Q. This was eight or ten days before they were found? - Eight days.

Court to Mr. Gibson. What value do you put on these pieces? - Three pounds; two pounds on one, and one pound on the other. I would give more a good deal.

Prisoner. I leave it to my counsel.

The prisoner called thirteen witnesses who gave her a good character.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-56

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526. JOHN COOPER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the ninth of October , a wooden box covered with leather, value 8s. a muslin frock, value 8s. a linen night cap, value 1d. a linen shift, value 4s. a shirt, value 12s. a linen towel, value 10d. a pin cloth, value 1s. a cotton night gown, value 3s. a pair of cotton stockings, value 18d. a linen handkerchief, value 6d. the goods of John Grieve .


Q. Do you live with Mr. Grieve? - Yes. I know nothing about the property.

Mr. Alley. Where does Mr. Grieve live? - In Norfolk-street, in the Strand.

Q. Was it in the Strand where the property was put into the coach? - I don't know.


On Friday, the ninth of this month, I was in Houndsditch. Between eight and nine in the evening, there was an hackney coach, and the prisoner at the bar in the coach, with another man; the other man told the coachman to drive on a little further; I followed it, and the coach stopped, and the coachman got off his box, and opened the coach door, the other man got out, and asked the coachman what his fare was, and he paid him, the prisoner did not get out. The coachman held the door, and observed, that

the prisoner did not seem to know what to do. The coachman stood for about two minutes, and then he asked him what he was to do? he bid him shut the door, he shut to the door; it was by a chandler's shop, and I went and put my hand over the hatch and got the candle, and went to the coach, and as I went and opened the coach door the prisoner attempted to get out; I put the candle away, and jumped into the coach, and we had a bit of a struggle, however, I secured him, and put my hand to the hind part, and took out a trunk; the prisoner said it was not his property. I took him the next morning before the Lord Mayor, and the property was advertised. I have got a part of the property here. It was by the approbation of the Lord Mayor that the gentleman should have the best part of the property, because the children had no things to put on.

Mr. Alley. What time of night was this? - Between eight and nine I believe.

Q. There was another man in the coach with the prisoner, why did you not apprehend that other man? - Because I was not thoroughly convinced that things were not right.

Q. Was it not in the city of London where this property was found? - It is.


Between the hours of eight and nine, I was first coach at St. Margaret's Hill. A man called out, coach! and told me to the Butcher Row, nearest London Bridge, he got on the box with me. There were two men standing there, when we came there, with a trunk. That is one of them, the prisoner at the bar. I got down and let them in, the two men got inside, the prisoner at the bar got inside with one other man, the man that was on the box went behind the coach. They told me to go, but to no particular place. When I was on the bridge I asked where I was to go, they told I was to go up Fenchurch-street, but when I came within ten yards of Fenchurch-street, one man put his head out of window, the man that is missing, and then bid me go to Houndsditch. When I came to Houndsditch, the man that was behind the coach got down. I followed him up till we came to a court, when I came there, he got off from behind, and went away then, I went and got down from my box, and opened the door, and the other man got out of the coach, and paid me; the door remained open, and I asked the man inside whether I should shut the door? - He said yes, and I got some hay, and began to feed my horses, and the constable he then got a light, and secured the prisoner, That is the person that the constable secured.

Mr. Alley. There was another man paid you? - Yes.

Dr. JOHN GRIEVE sworn.

I have nothing to say, but the property is mine; I came in a post chaise from Shuter's Hill, in company with a post chaise to which the trunk was tied.

Mr. Alley. Can you tell where you lost the property? - I understand from Dr. Hunter.

Dr. HUNTER sworn.

I and my daughter met Dr. Grieve just ascending Shuter's Hill. Mrs. Grieve, my daughter, and I, went on with the trunk and a square box tied to the post chaise, and Dr. Grieve, in another post chaise, and the two post chaises went on together, till we came to Black Friars Bridge, when the boy said, the trunk is gone, and the box was just off, the post boy took up the leather that it was fixed to, and shewed how it was cut as under, observing, that it had been done very dextrously, or something of that sort.

Q. Of course you did not see any thing done yourself? - No, but I am sensible the box and trunk was there. The trunk was advertised as lost.

Mr. Alley. It was the other side of Blackfriars Bridge? - It was.

Court to Law. Did you pack up these things in the trunk? - I helped to pack them up.

Q. You know they were in the trunk? - Yes, I know them to be Dr. Grieve's.

Prisoner. I was that day walking near to St. Margaret's Hill, and I was called by a man of a very genteel appearance to carry a trunk for him, and I told him, that I would. I am a stay maker by profession, I carried the trunk for him to Butcher Row, he then told me to set it down, says he, we will have a coach, and after some little trifle of time, a man came down in a dark coloured coat, and he opened the coach door, and then we went in with the trunk, then the coach drove to Houndsditch, and he got out of the coach at Houndsditch, paid the coachman eighteen pence, and left me inside of the coach, and told me he should return immediately, then Mr. Tipper came and asked me, what I had got in the coach, I told him that I had something there, says he, I insist on taking charge of you, and he took charge of me in the coach, at least ways at the door of the coach, and he laid hold of me, and went into the coach immediately, and he pulled out this trunk, and he asked me whether this trunk belonged to me? I told him no, it belonged to the gentleman that was gone, and he took me to the watch-house.

GUILTY . (Aged 30.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-57

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528. MARY CLARKE was again indicted for feloniously stealing, on the ninth of October , two pieces of printed callico, each piece containing fifteen yards, value 5l. the goods of Thomas Gilson , privately in his shop .


Q. Where do you keep a shop? - No. 95, at the bottom of the Minories , a linen-draper 's.

Q. Did you see the prisoner come in? - No.

Q. Did you see her while she was in the shop? - Yes, I did. On Friday, the ninth of this month, I was called down stairs, the prisoner at the bar was in my shop, when I came behind the counter, I recognized her features. I had seen her about three years and a half before in my shop; I had very great reason to suspect that she was a thief, as such, when she was gone, as there had been plenty of opportunity for her to take goods out of any shop, I looked particularly among them, and I missed two pieces of printed callico.

Q. When had you seen these the last time before it was missing? - That I cannot positively say, one of my young men can. I had seen them in the course of two or three days, they had not been in my shop above a week. In the evening of that night I and my young man, John Davis , made particular enquiry in the neighbourhood of Swan-street, where the prisoner had said that she resided, as I understand. I could hear nothing of her that night.

Q. When did you hear of her? - On Tuesday following. This was on the ninth that she was at my shop, on Friday. On Tuesday I went down to her house, and I looked into the window of her shop, she keeps a linen-draper's shop. I see her shewing these prints that I had missed to a customer. I came up for assistance

to the police office, and they went down with me in about an hour's time; we went there together, we searched the house for about an hour, without finding any thing that we were in search of, except the sag end of one of the pieces which was torn off. I have got it in my pocket; there is no mark on it, but it joins exactly where it was torn from. In the course of this hour we looked down the necessary twice, and there was nothing there, but I not being satisfied before I went, wished to have the place searched again; we went the third time, at least one of the officers did, and there lay these two pieces of print that I had missed, with that sag end cut off; the officer, after he had found them there, gave information to his partner, and I went immediately to the place, and see them there, and helped them to take them out. When I came into the shop again, the prisoner particularly solicited me not to proceed any further, offering me money, which I refused, telling her, that I did no more then what I thought was my duty.

Mr. Knowlys. Your's is a shop of a good deal of business, you keep a good many shopmen perhaps? - I keep two.

Q. Are you a married man? - I am.

Q. Does your wife serve in the shop? - She does not.

Q. It was the ninth that you saw her at your house, and the thirteenth, four days after that, you see her at her house? - It was.

Q. Did you say any thing about this offer of money before the magistrate? - I don't know that I did.

Q. You don't know why you omitted to tell that circumstance before the magistrate? - I did not think of it.

Q. It is now above a fortnight since, and at this time it occurs to your recollection? - It does.


You are shopman to the prosecutor? - Yes. On the ninth of October the prisoner came in and asked to look at some different printed callicoes, I shewed her a variety of different patterns. In about two minutes after she came in, she told me her name was Mrs. Smith, a neighbour, likewise she had a sister, an opposite neighbour to us. She was in the shop about twenty-five minutes, as near as I can recollect, and purchased of me two gowns to the amount of three pounds nearly; she offered me a ten pounds Bank note, which I had not cash enough to give change. I rang the bell for Mr. Gillson, he came down stairs, and called me on one side, he gave me reason to suspect her; I came forward, and gave her the change, she immediately went out of the shop, the next instant I looked over the prints that I had been shewing her, I missed two patterns, two quantities, I know them, they have my own marks on them. I then immediately went and asked this person who she said was her sister, if she had any sister in town; she told me she had not. I went that same evening to Swan-street, where she said she lived, near Mr. Gillson's, we could find no person there of that name; on Saturday we enquired in the trade of our neighbours, likewise the same on Monday. On Tuesday we had information of a person answering that description and the name, with that Mr. Gillson told me he would go down to the police office.

Q. You went with your master to the place? - I did not.

Mr. Gurney. Your master keeps two journeymen, was the other journeyman in the shop at this time? - He was.

Q. She bought goods to the amount of three pounds, you don't call that a bad customer that lays out two or three pounds with you? - Not a very bad one,

if we had never better, it would be very bad.


Q. You did not serve the prisoner? - No, I was only in the shop at the time she came in.


I am a constable belonging to the police in Whitechapel.

Q. Have you got the things? - Yes. On Tuesday, the thirteenth of this month, I went, in company with the prosecutor, to the prisoner's house.

Q. Did you search the prisoner's house? - Yes, we found nothing in the house of these goods, but in the privy we found these things.

(Produced and deposed to.)

Mr. Knowlys. The husband was at home at this time? - He was.

Q. This privy is common to two houses? - Yes, they sit back to back.

Court to Prosecutor. What is the price of this linen? - I put five pounds, they cost me more.

GUILTY . (Aged 20.) Death .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-58
VerdictNot Guilty > no prosecutor

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529. WILLIAM HUNT was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the thirteenth of October , seventy pounds weight of lead, value 8s. the goods of John Lee .

The prosecutor was called on his recognizance, and the prisoner ACQUITTED .

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-59
SentenceTransportation; Miscellaneous > fine

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530. JANE MOUNSLOW was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the eighteenth of October , a counterfeit penny, three guineas, and two shillings and sixpence , the goods, chattels, and monies of Rowland Jones .

ROWLAND JONES sworn. I am a farmer's labourer . I lost three guineas and some silver last Sunday sen'night, about three o'clock in the morning. I went along with a woman. I cannot tell the name of the place. I met her in Smithfield , I think, to my knowledge, about ten o'clock, and I went with her to her lodgings, home. I slept there two or three hours I dare say, I gave her half a crown to get some bread and cheese, and a pot of beer. I had the money in a little bag in my stocking. I was rather drunk.

Q. Did she see you take the half crown out of this stocking for the bread and cheese? - No, I took it out of my waistcoat pocket.

Q. Did you get any of your money again? - I got some out of it. When I awoke she was gone, and my stocking was cut through, and my money gone. She was taken up about one or two o'clock the next morning, to my knowledge. I know the woman's face very well.


Q. Are you the constable? - I am superintendant of St. John's watch house. Between one and two o'clock in the morning, the eighteenth of this month, the watchman came to me, and said, there was a robbery committed in Turnmill-street. I went down along with them, and this girl and another were standing at the back side of the Sessions house, the man was standing in the alley, and as soon as I took the girl up the alley, he taps the girl on the shoulder, and said, this is the girl that robbed me, and I took her up to her room, and searched her, and found three guineas in gold, and sixpence, and two shillings; it was tied up in a kind of canvas bag. The constable has got it.(Produced.)

Q. to Jones. Do you know whether this is your purse? - Yes, it is, I will swear to it. I never took notice of the gold, but I did of the sixpence; this is the sixpence, I will swear to it.

Prisoner. That gentleman asked me if I would have any thing to drink; and we had three pints of beer, and he asked me where I lived? and I told him, says he, if you have a home, I will be glad to go home with you; I said, yes, I can make a shift with you, I have two children, and he gave me a shilling for the room all night, and one shilling and sixpence to get some bread and cheese, and he gave me that bag, and I never opened it till the watchman took it from me.

GUILTY . (Aged 49.)

Imprisoned one year in the House of Correction and fined 1s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-60
SentenceImprisonment > house of correction; Miscellaneous > fine

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531. MARY PIPPIN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the eighteenth of October , a silk handkerchief, value 3s. a muslin apron, value 8d. a lawn shift, value 1s. a linen handkerchief, value 6d. two linen caps, value 6d. the goods of Mary Gwinnup .


Q. Where do you live? - In Store-street, No. 21 .

Q. What do you know of the prisoner taking your property? - They were lost the last Sunday was a week, the eighteenth day of the month, at nine o'clock in the evening. She came along with her husband on business. I am a servant , and she was in our kitchen.

Q. Did you see her take the things? - No, they were found on her.

Q. Whereabouts were they kept? -On the head of the bed in the kitchen; I sleep in the kitchen, and she took them from there.

Q. When had you last seen them there? - Sometime after nine o'clock in she evening.

Q. Was her husband with her when she did this? - No, her husband was obliged to go home on business, and she was left by herself.


Q. Do you remember her coming with her husband? - Yes. I went the next morning to see if I could find her husband; I found her at Marlborough-street. When I came there I found she had been in the watch-house after she had been out of my house; as soon as I see her I told her she must go along with me; as I was going along she whipped into a house, and she asked the woman in the house leave to go backward into the yard. After she came out I asked the woman what part of the house she went to? she told me into the yard; and I went back and found this silk handkerchief, and a sprigged muslin apron, a linen handkerchief, and two caps; I found them all in the necessary; I put them all in my pocket; I ran out after her, and told the person that was with me to watch her; when I came up to her, I said, you had better tell me where the things are; she denied knowing any thing about them; and I took her into my house, and my daughter took the shift off; I did not see it taken off.


Q. Did you search the prisoner? - I did.

(The goods produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. I was taken sick, and my husband came in and he held my head, and he brought me out a glass of water, and he persuaded me to take the things, because he said he had spent all his money at Mr. Cole's house, five shillings and sixpence, for supper and liquor.

Court to Cole. Is your house a public house? - No, a private house. The man was never out of my presence all the time he was in the house.

GUILTY . (Aged 22.)

One Year's Imprisonment in the House of Correction , and fined 1s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-61
SentenceImprisonment > house of correction; Miscellaneous > fine

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532. JOHN TULL was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 28th of October , a looking glass in a wooden frame, value 10s. 6d. the goods of Thomas Fenn .


I live at No. 10, Eagle-street, Red Lion-square .

Q. Did you lose a looking glass at any time lately? - Yes, on the 28th, the day before yesterday; from the table in the shop.

Q. What is your shop? - A bit of a broker's shop. I was called out by one of the neighbour's; I was at dinner, and he told me that man had something of my property, and I followed him about a hundred yards, and took him with the glass in his hand.

Q. How do you know it to be your's? - By the private marks that I put on it for my wife to sell it by.

Q. What time was this? - About a quarter before one.

Prisoner. I was coming from Tottenham court road; I had been to an acquaintance of mine, and a man met me, and asked me to hold the glass while he went into a public house, and I was standing there, and the gentleman came and took me.

Court to Prosecutor. Did he say how he came by it? - He said he picked it up in the street.

The prisoner called one witness to his character.

GUILTY . (Aged 26.)

Six Months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s.

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-62
SentenceNo Punishment > sentence respited

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533. SYLVESTER HILL was indicted for that he, on the 28th of September , with a clasp knife on William Spice unlawfully, violently, feloniously, wilfully, and maliciously did make an assault, with intent the goods, chattels, and monies of the said William Spice , feloniously and violently against his consent to steal .


I am a coachman to Mrs. Bevan, at Dalston. On the 28th of September, Monday, half after eight in the evening, a young woman and I were coming from Newington Green to Kingsland , and going through a field we were overtaken by three men, not above twenty yards from the highway, and one of them took hold of me, and said, d-n your eyes, deliver your watch and money immediately. Then after that, this here man that is at the bar now took the young woman from me, and took her out of the path; then one of them put his hand down by the side of him and drew out a case knife,

a black handled case knife, immediately he made a job at me, as he had got hold of the collar of my coat with his back hand, and I put up my hand, and stopped him, and I said, I will be d-ed if I do deliver either, and then he jobbed the knife at me, and I gave him a blow and knocked him down immediately; and then the other man came up and gave me a blow, immediately after I had knocked the other down; he did not knock me down; I recovered immediately, and then afterwards I gave him one and knocked him down, and then they both got up and ran back immediately, and said to this Sylvester Hill, let the young woman go; she tried to run away, and screeched two or three times, and then he gave her a blow and knocked her down; it was the prisoner that knocked her down; they all three ran away immediately.

Q. YOu did not part with your money at all? - No, nor my watch; I had a watch in my pocket; I would not let them have either.

Mr. Knapp. This was a case knife? - Yes, it was, I am sure it was; it was a black handled case knife.

Q. Where was this? - Between Newington Green and Kingsland, not in the high road, just in a path across a field; it was very moon light, and I thought it was safe enough to go that way.

Q. You have been always certain? -As to the person of the prisoner I am certain it is the man.

Q. Have you always been so? - Yes.

Q. Then you did not point out somebody else to the magistrate? - No, I did not.

Q. Are you sure of that? - No, I did not.

Q. Had he any thing about his face? - Yes, he had something about his chin.

Q. Had he a round hat? - A flapped bat, and an handkerchief up here, not quite so high as his mouth.

Q. And you had never seen the prisoner before? - Not to my knowledge.

Q. Were you not under four degree of terror and fright? - I was in her at first.

Q. What you bold? - Yes, I was, after heat them.

Q. Then never having seen this man, and seeing him for so short a space of time, and being alarmed and having the handkerchief up and the slap hat, do you mean to swear to him? - I do; I have an undoubted right to do so, because I am certain he is the man and no other.

Court. I understand you it was moon light? - It was moon light as day, a finer evening there could not be.

Mr. Alley. Do you know whether there is any reward attending this conviction? - I don't know, I never enquired.

Q. Did you ever hear there was a reward for conviction of a highwayman? - Yes, I have heard that.

Q. What do you think is the reward? - I don't know; I never did convict one, nor I do not wish to convict him, unless he is deserving it; but I think this man is thoroughly deserving it; if he is convicted it is no more than what is right.

Q. This is the second indictment you have preferred against him? - Yes, it is.

Q. Now you are sure he is the man? - I am.

Q. I dare say you would say so if it was till to-morrow? - Yes; if it was till next week, or seven years, or twenty years, I would say the same.

Court. Were there any lamps near you at that time? - No, there were not.


Q. Are you any relation to William Spice ? - I am his wife now. We were walking between Newington Green and Kingsland, and this field was the nearest way to Kingsland; these three people

overtook us, this one and two others, between eight and nine; they demanded watch and money, and then this one led me out of the path while the other two were with him; I went to screech, and he stopped my mouth; I went to screech a second time, and he stopped my mouth; and then the other two that were with him said, let her go, let her go; and then he let me go. Then I went to run away, and he ran and overtook me, and caught me, and I went to screech a second time, and he stopped my mouth again, and then the other two said, let her go again; and I fetched a very violent screech; and the instant I fetched the screech, he knocked me down, and then, when I was on the ground, he left me.

Q. Did you observe what was done to William Spice? - I observed that one of them had the knife in his hand; I observed that they were tusling with him, that was all.

Q. Now as to the prisoner, can you speak to certainly as to him? - Yes; not the least doubt in the world.

Mr. Alley. You are the prosecutor's wife? - Yes.

Q. How long have you been married to him? - A month the 1st of next month.

Q. You were not married to him when I see you at Bow street? - I was not.

Q. You say when they demanded the money of the prosecutor, the prisoner was engaged with you? - No, I did not say so. They were altogether when the demand was made of money.

Q. You say he laid hold of you two or three times, and you could not fetch a screech at first? Now where did you fetch a screech? How long was the prisoner engaged with you? - Ten minutes.

Q. I suppose you edeavoured to resist being much frightened? - My resistance! What is a woman against a man.

Q. Did you endeavour to make any resistance at all? - I endeavoured to screech if I could.

Q. Consequently I take it for granted that you was more occupied about your own safety than the person of the prisoner? - I see him among forty people and fixed on him immediately, before I came to Bow-street.

Q. Whether or no you was not more occupied about reicuing yourself than observing the man's person? - I am confident it is the man.

Q. How was the man dressed? - In a blue coat and striped waistcoat.

Q. He had a handkerchief over his face? - No, only came up over his chin.

Q. And a round hat on? - Yes.

Q. Did you ever see him before? - No, never.

Q. And yet you venture to swear to him? - Yes, and I would again.

Q. Have not you heard any thing about a reward for apprehending a highwayman? - No, I don't know that I have.

Q. Has your husband never told you? nothing about it? - No, he has not.

Q. Does he keep a secret so strict as that? - I don't know what you mean about reward; I have heard of such things, but I had not the least idea of any thing of the kind.

Q. Has not your husband told you? - I have heard such things from him and others.


I am a journeyman shoe-maker; I was at the back of Newington-green, and I heard the alarm of murder and thieves cried, and there were four or five of us standing by, and we set off, and ran down the fields, and we met the three men together in full run, and we asked them where the thieves were, and one of them pointed behind, and said, the thieves were

down there; one of them had a handkerchief over his forehead; I ran by them, and another that was with me, and somebody said they were the thieves; we turned round immediately and pursued them, and they ran a little way from the foot path, and ran where there was no path at all, and two got over the pales, and I overtook this man at the bar, and laid hold of him by the collar, and told him he was the thief, and he said, what be you going at with me? or something of that kind; and a young man, John Abery , that was with me, I told him to take hold of him, and he pushed him away.

Q. You detained him? - Yes.

Q. You had him carried before a magistrate? - Yes.

Q. Did the people who were robbed come up immediately? - A little time afterwards they did, to a public house that was there; the officers of Bow-street came up just as I was going in there.

Q. Did the people that were robbed come in, either of them? - Sometime after they did, John Spice and the young woman; I was out when they challenged him.

Mr. Knapp. So a man had a handkerchief over his forehead? - Yes, with a drab coloured coat on, one of them had.

Q. You attended the examination before Mr. Bond? - Yes, I did.

Q. Of course you did not like to come here without being paid for it; you must have something for your trouble? - I am a journeyman.

Q. You asked Mr. Bond how you were to be paid for your time? - Yes, I did, I told him I was a poor man, and could not afford to lose my time.

Q. You are sure the man had the handkerchief over his forehead and a drab coat on?

Court. You do not mean to say this man had? - No, not this man, that man went over the pales, this man had a blue coloured coat on when he was taken.


I am a shoe maker; my master and I we heard the cry of murder in the field, and we directly ran down the field, and we met that man and two more, and we asked them where the thieves were; the man in the brown coat pretended to cry, and said they were gone that way, towards Newington; the young man behind us said, they are the thieves, directly we all turned round and went after them, and they went out of the foot path into another field, and went two round the the hay stack, and this young man went on the field, and one tried to get over some pales where there were some tenter hooks, and I got up to him and struck him, but I found I could not get him, and so I followed my master after this one here, and when I took hold of his collar he pushed me away, and said, d-n you, what do you want with me? you shall not hold me; and my master stepped up, and said, if he cannot hold you I can, and he collared him, and they took him to the Green Man, Ball's Pond.

Mr. Alley. What share are you to got by your activity on this occasion? Would you have come here to prosecute if you had not been offered something? Did not Mr. Bond tell your master that he would be satisfied for you? - He told my master if so be the court did not satiefy him, come to him, and he would.


I belong to Bow-street office; I know nothing more than taking the prisoner into custody after he was apprehended; I heard the rattles spring when I was at Ball's Pond gate; I searched him, but found nothing material on him, only sixpence, three pence halfpenny, and a hand

kerchief, and a stick in his hand, nothing else.

Prisoner. I leave it to my counsel.

GUILTY . (Aged 34.)

Judgment respited .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-63
VerdictNot Guilty

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534. WILLIAM OSLAND was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 9th of October , six guineas, and half a guinea; the monies of Charles Daley ; nine guineas, three half guineas, two crown pieces, a half crown, and a shilling, in money; the monies of Joseph Hull , in the dwelling house of Charles Daley .


I am an iron founder , No. 61, Turnmill-street, St. John's, Clerkenwell ; I went off to work about six minutes to six o'clock, the 9th of October, and I left the place safe; the prisoner was quite a stranger to me.


Q. Are you the wife? - Yes. On the 9th of October when I shut the street door, the clock had just struck six; I went to market as usual (I keep a green stall) and when I came home, about twenty minutes after seven, my place had been broke open; I found my door open, and going into my room I found my drawers all open; when I went out I double locked the door, and locked my room; there was only a child of mine in the room a bed, four years old the 4th of last month. When I went in I see my back door open, and I immediately went up to the place where I had laid a parcel of money to pay my rent and taxes, it was six guineas and a half tied up in an old shawl, and I missed it all, and I had a brother come out of the country, who boarded with me, he left a box with me; and all the clothes were pulled out of his box, and his money was all taken away. The six guineas and a half of mine was in a bureau, tied up in an old shawl.

Q. Was that bureau broke open? - Yes.

Q. What did you lose of your brother's out of the room? - There were nine guineas and three half guineas, gold, two crown pieces, a half crown, and a shilling.

Q. What is your brother's name? - Joseph Hull .

Q. You know what money he had in his box yourself? - Yes.

Q. Is your brother here? - Yes.

Q. Have you ever recovered any of this money? - No, not a single farthing of it. When I came home my surprise was so great at losing every penny we had, I made a great alarm in the neighbourhood, and the young man that lived up in the two pair of stairs next door knew two more that had been in the house, and that prisoner was one of them.

Q. You never see them there yourself? - No.

Q. You never found any of your money on this boy? - No.

Q. Now if your money was produced should you know it again? - No, I don't know that I should.

Q. There was nothing taken but your money? - Only that old shawl and an old stocking.

Q. You have never seen that bit of shawl since? - No.


Q. You are the brother of the last witness, are you? - Yes.

Q. Had you a box in the house? - Yes.

Q. Did you miss any thing on the 9th of October? - I missed my money; I did not sleep in the house, I sleep in Castle-street, opposite.

Q. When had you last seen your money in the box? - On Sunday.

Q. What day was it missing? - On Friday; I came home between nine and ten o'clock on Friday morning, I was sent for on account of the box being opened; I always left it locked; the lock was picked.

Q. Did you find the box open? - Yes.

Q. What was the money you missed? - Nine guineas, three half guineas, two crown pieces, a half crown piece, and a shilling.

Q. Have you ever recovered any of it? - No.

Q. Do you know who took it? - No, I do not.


I work for Mr. Risdon, on Back-hill. Coming down early, about half after six o'clock, this here one and another watched me down the alley, Pit-alley I believe it was, or Frying-pan-alley, I don't know which.

Q. Did the woman, Mrs. Daley, live in that alley? - Yes, the back door comes out of that alley; I came out of the next door to it, up the alley; this one watched me out of the alley, and I was talking to a bricklayer just at the bottom, and they both came down the alley, and ran up towards the green, as hard as ever they could.

Q. Did you see them come out of the house? - No, I did not.


I am a constable; about eight o'clock I received information that Joseph and William Osland had robbed this woman; I found this and another in Smithfield about nine o'clock, I took him into custody immediately, an I found nothing on him but four penny worth of halfpence, and a bit of an old bank note for the year 1779.


I am a constable, Gunpowder Flaskalley, I went by information of this Holdsworth to apprehend the boy.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-64

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535. RICHARD STEVENS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 30th of September , four pieces of linen cloth, value 16l. two pieces of huckaback, value 5l. thirty muslin handkerchiefs, value 8l. eighteen pieces of muslin, value 60l. three pieces of cambrick, value 10l. six huckaback towels, four dozen linen napkins, nine diaper napkins, eighty-four linen napkins, and five linen table cloths; the goods of Christopher Crook and John Francis , in their dwelling house; and on the 11th of October , for feloniously stealing, two pieces of muslin, value 10l. the goods of the same persons .

A second COUNT for stealing the same goods, laying it to be in the dwelling house of John Francis only.


My dwelling house is in Surry-street, and I am a linen draper in York-street, Covent-garden , I do not keep the house there myself, Mr. Francis resides in the house, but the business is carried on in the warehouse underneath the house which he inhabits; the partnership pays part of the house, that is, I pay part of the taxes.

Q. Are there any partnership servants sleep there? - There are. On Friday the 2d of October, in consequence of some particular application for some muslin from a neighbour, I desired one of our servants to bring down a piece of a particular mark; he went to look for the particular piece and could not find it; we made a very particular search, and could not find it; we concluded taking our stock, apprehensive that this piece might not be gone alone, I went and looked over the wrappers, to see if any other piece might be gone, in looking them over I found that another piece was gone out of the very same lot; who had taken them at that time we could not tell, but from some particular circumstances our suspicion fell on the prisoner at the bar; he had left our service that very morning, the 2d of October; we then took some pains to find out where he was; we found out that he was at a very reputable house in Bond-street, I called there, but did not find him at home; after that one of the partners in the house called on me, in consequence of that I went after him on Tuesday to Bond-street, with an intention of charging the prisoner with the fact; I went there, and he was then at dinner in the house, I called him out, at least desired a servant to do it; when he came to the door, I told him that having missed several articles, our suspicions fell on him.

Mr. Knapp. When you told him this did not you tell him it would be better for him to tell the truth of the business? -At that time I said nothing at all about it. I did afterwards.

Court. Then nothing that he has said after this can be evidence with regard to the discovery he made? - I went up stairs with the prisoner to the place where the boxes were, and there I found two pieces of Irish linen laying in a corner of the room, in a hat box. They are in the indictment. We had afterwards the box opened, in that box we found a great quantity of muslins, huckaback, and Irish linens, and cambricks. After that, Taylor, from Bow-street, was called up, who examined his pockets.

Q. Were you by at the time? - I was. In his pockets he found twenty guineas, and among his papers taken out of his pocket was found a catalogue, together with an account annexed to that catalogue. It was a catalogue of goods to be sold at Fellows and Myers's, Aldersgate street. We went to Bow-street, and got a summons from Mr. Bond to Mr. Fellows and Myers's, in order to come and produce the goods the next morning. I went with the summons in my pocket to Messrs Fellows and Myers, but previous to the delivery of the summons, I went into the warehouse to inspect the goods that were marked in the catalogue as delivered to them by the prisoner at the bar.

Q. What is Fellows and Myers? -Brokers and auctioners, in Aldersgate-street. I have the catalogue here now, marked in his own hand writing.

Q. What are these goods in the catalogue? - Four dozen of napkins, four eight-quarters of diaper cloths, nine diaper table-cloths, eighty our linen napkins, five table cloths to match these napkins, two pieces of muslin, also one of which pieces of muslin was the very one that I originally missed, which led to the discovery. I afterwards went to his taylor's, benjamin Caddington, in Brewer-street. The taylor shewed me some callicoes, which he had bought of the prisoner; this was I think a day or two afterwards.

Q. Did all this pass on the second? - No. it was on the sixth that I went to Bond-street.

Q. When did you go to the taylor's? - That was on the eight I believe, where I found some callicoes. I opened on of the pieces out, and I mentioned before

hand to the taylor some defects that were in it. The property is all in court now. All the property that was taken from his room was delivered up to me at Bow-street.

Q. Have you kept it ever since? - I have. The rest of the property is in the hand of the auctioner, and the callico is in the possession of the taylor.

Mr. Knapp. Your name is Christopher Crook? - It is.

Q. Have you any other partner besides John Francis ? - I have not.

Q. Nobody has any interest in the trade? - No.

Q. These things must be taken at different times? - No doubt.

Q. The particular day in which any of them were taken you don't know? - Except, I am pretty confident that the two pieces of muslin were taken away on the first of October. I see it myself on the thirtieth of September, the day before. The muslin cost us six pounds ten shillings. I will swear that I believe it went on that day. but I cannot swear it.

Q. These pieces of muslin you see at Fellows and Myers's that was in consequence of a catalogue to be sold there? - Yes. and also an amount of it in the prisoner's own writing.

Q. Fellows and Myers are brokers and auctioneers, of course they sell every thing that they do sell openly? - They do.

Q. So public and open that it was expressed in the catalogue when it was to be sold? - It was.

Q. Therefore all the world might have known as well as you what it was to be sold? - Yes, they might.

Q. Now these two pieces of muslin, how long might you have had them in your shop before? - Perhaps a couple of months.

Q. What sort of muslin is it? - Plain India muslin, marked in my own hand writing.

Q. When you say there was some Irish linen found in a box up stairs, in Bond-street, I believe the prisoner at the bar did not go up stairs with you? - Yes, he did, he shewed us the boxes, and denied there was any thing in them.

Q. But he shewed you the boxes? -He did.

Q. So that he was the very means of detecting himself.


I am one of the officers at Bow-street I went with Mr. Crook, I apprehended the prisoner in Bond-street, and in searching of him, I found twenty guineas in his pockets, that is all I know.

Q. What day was that? - The sixth of October.


Q. What are you? - A broker.

Q. Where do you live? - In Aldersgate-street. On the first of October the prisoner came to our house, I was at home, he enquired when we should have a sale of linen goods, that he had been in trade in the country, he had kept a shop, that he had left off business with an intent to go to America, he had brought the stock in trade to town, or a part, I am not sure which, and it was at Mr. Dudding and Richardson's, in Oxford-street, at whose house he resided till the ship should fail; he then said he had been recommended by his friends to sell part of his stock in trade, and he was recommended to our house to dispose of it; he had brought two pieces of muslin with him, and he would send the remainder in the evening, or in the following morning, and he said he should have occasion for some money, and asked me if I would let him have ten guineas, five I gave him that evening, and five on the following day; he sent the remainder of the goods that evening, and called the next

day about noon, he enquired whether it would be best to sell them privately or publicly, I told him, that from the nature of the goods, they would go to more advantage in a public sale; he agreed that it should be so, the only objection he had to it, he was fearful the ship would fail before the goods would be sold, and he should not have time to receive the balance, I told him, that I did not think it would make any odds, as he had friends in town, we would pay the balance to them; we put them in a public sale, and had the catalogue printed. He told us he should be every day on the change to see the captain to know when the ship would fail, and that if we wanted him we might see him at the New York coffee-house, or at No. 24, Bond-street. On Tuesday after, we sent him a catalogue at the New York coffee-house, marked in the margin against such lots as were his property. He called on that day at our counting house, and asked me whether I thought the goods were likely to sell well, I told him there was no doubt of it, as there had been catalogues distributed all over the town, the goods had been advertised, and many had been to view them. He then asked me if I would let him have twenty pounds, as a further advance, he said he had occasion to buy some necessaries for his voyage.

Q. How much did you advance him more? - Nineteen guineas. When he wrote the receipt, he went away, and I see no more of him till he was in custody at Bow-street. The following morning, Wednesday, Mr. Crook came to my house.

Mr. Alley. You say that this man consented, since it was more to his advantage that these things should be sold by public sale? - He did.

Q. You are in a very extensive way I believe? - We do a deal of business.

Q. He gave you his fair directions either at Bond-street, or at the New York coffee-house? - He did.

Q. Notwithstanding these catalogues and advertisements, which go to this man's master among the rest, he came to you afterwards? - Yes, he did. When he signed the receipt, he did not sign it in the name of Stevenson, but in the name of William Shepherd .

Court to Crook. You have heard this witness describe where the prisoner lived in Bond-street, was that the same house as where you found him? - Yes, the same house.


I am clerk to Fellows and Myers. On Thursday, the first of October, about nine o'clock in the evening, the prisoner at bar the came to me with a box, containing sundry goods.

Q. Did he bring you all the articles in the catalogue? - He brought two pieces of muslin in the morning.

Q. Were you at home then? - Yes. When the prisoner at the bar came in the evening, he asked if Mr. Myers was at home, I told him he was not, he gave me a letter, and told me to give that letter to Mr. Myers, saying, that it specified what was in the box, which I did in the morning. (Produces it.) The prisoner said, he would call on Mr. Myers the next day about eleven or twelve o'clock.

Mr. Knapp. Messrs. Fellows and Myers are brokers we understand? - Yes.

Q. Sell goods by public sale? - Yes.

Q. They have catalogues of all the goods that are to be sold, so that all the trade in town and country may know what is to be sold at your sale? - Yes, those in town may.

Q. The prisoner brought this box and letter, and made no secret about it at all? - No, he made no secret that they were his.


I am a taylor, No. 29, Brewer-street.

Q. Do you know the prisoner at the bar? - Yes.

Q. Did he ever bring any thing to you? - Yes, in the months of August and September, several pieces of callico at different times.

Q. How many pieces might he bring you in all, did he bring you five? - Yes.

Q. Did you buy it of him? - Yes. I gave him a fair price, I gave him altogether six or seven pounds.

Q. Can you say whereabouts you gave him for each piece? - About four or five and twenty shillings, and some two and twenty shillings and a guinea, I am not certain.

Q. Have you kept the callico ever since? - Yes.

Mr. Alley. I take it for granted he brought them at separate times? - He did.

Court to Prosecutor. Produce the property taken at his lodgings? - Eighteen pieces of muslin, worth sixty pounds, in some my marks are totally cut off, and he has put another mark on them, but I can trace my hand writing on some of them.

Q. What would you give for the lowest piece of muslin there? - About five and forty shillings. Twenty-eight muslin handkerchiefs, with my own marks on it, my own hand writing on it, though he has endeavoured to erase it; three pieces of cambrick, I would give ten pounds for them; I would give four pounds a piece for the Irish linen; and here is some huckaback besides, I believe them all to be mine.

Q. To Mr. Myers. Have you got all the things described in this paper? - Yes, I have, two pieces of muslin.

Prosecutor. There is the very piece I originally missed, with my own land writing on it, they are worth more than ten pounds together.

Q. Have you seen the other things at Mr. Myers's? - I have, I am perfectly convinced they are all mine.

Q. Look at the callico produced by the taylor? - It was a lot that was damaged, and they are marked half a yard over, it is the custom of our house to mark them so, I don't know that it is the custom of other houses.

Q. Can you say that such property was missing from your house? - No, I could not, we have such a quantity of callico; I believe it to be mine.

Prisoner. The prosecutor, at the time that he took me, told me that he would not prosecutor me if I would confess.

Court. Every part of this case is a case of facts, I have stopped every word of confession.

GUILTY . Death . (Aged 26.)

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-65
VerdictNot Guilty

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539. BENJAMIN ABRAHAMS , CHRISTOPHER MASON , and JACOB MOSELEY , were indicted for feloniously forging, on the twenty-third of September , a certain paper writing, purporting to be the last will and testament of one Samuel Hounsley deceased, with intention to defraud Ann Hounsley .

A second COUNT, for forging the same, with intetion to persons who, by law, would be intitled to a certain sum of money.

The third and fourth COUNTS, with uttering the same, knowing it to be forged.

(The case opened by Mr. Jackson.)


Q. Do you produce the will of Hounsley? - Yes, I do.

Q. What are you? - Clerk to the Bishop of London's office.

Q. You had that out of the office? - I had.

(The bill read; wherein he bequeathed all his wages and whatever was belonging to him, to Benjamin Abrahams . Witnesses by Jacob Moseley and Christopher(Mason .

Q. What was the name of the ship he went on board? - The Earl of Abergavenny.


Q. You are clerk, I believe to the India House? - In the Pay office.

Q. You know Abrahams? - Yes, very well.

Q. Did he apply to you at any time as executor to the will of Hounsley? - Never to me.

Q. Do you know of his application to the office? - Not of my ownself.

Q. What book have you got here? - The signature of Hounsley, deceased.

Mr. Shepherd. Pray what was the amount of this property that was devised by the will? - I cannot tell without opening the book. (Reads.) " Samuel Hounsley , wages due to him seven pounds ten shillings and eight-pence, and effects that sold before the mask, when he died, three pounds eighteen shillings and sixpence."

Q. You have known Abrahams some time? - I have for these three or four years.

Q. He did business for the India company? - He did find men for the commanders and owners of the ships.

Q. You had therefore an opportunity of transacting business before him? - Yes, because he signs before me, whenever he is bound for a person.

Q. Has not this man always had the character of an honest man? - Quite so, as much as I know of him.

Q. Have you seen him write often? -O yes, a vast number of times.

Q. Have you ever seen Hounsley write? - Yes, three times, that I can swear to.

Q. I believe Hounsley came with Abrahams to you, before he went abroad, for the purpose of executing some bond? - He did; this is the bond.

Q. Will you look at the signature of that will, Samuel Hounsley? - I firmly believe it is one and the same hand writing, but I will not positively swear to it, because I did not see it.

Q. Except that you did not actually see it executed, have you any doubt that it is his hand writing? - It corresponds exactly with the hand writing that I see him write.

Q. Did you not tell the prosecutors so themselves? - I told Mr. Fletcher so.

Q. Did you tell any body so on the part of the prosecution? - No one applied to me. I firmly believe it is Hounsley's hand writing.

(The absent bond shewn him.)

Q. Did you witness the execution of that? - I did.

Q. Did you see Hounsley execute it? - I did.

Q. The other signatures in your book you see Hounsley sign? - I did. I have got the contract they are obliged to sign before they go to sea, it is in the hand writing of Hounsley.

Q. Is that another document from whence you form your judgment? - It is.

Q. Then you have got three signatures in the book, those articles and that power of attorney.

Q. When a man applies to these men, such as Abrahams, to sit them out, they sit them out with slops? - They do.

Q. And it is a very common thing in the course of that business, for the person who gets the birth to he bound for them, and sit them out? - It is so.

Q. At this very instant Mr. Abrahams was bound for Hounsley? - He was; here is his bond for a hundred pounds for him.

Q. Except this man had some estates in the skies, ten pounds and odd would have been the whole that he could have received? - It was.

Q. I believe all the documents, the power of attorney, the absent bond, and whatever was to entitle any one person to receive money, were all directed to Abrahams? - They were.


I am clerk of Mary's Whitechapel.

Q. Did you know Samuel Hounsley , the deceased? - Yes, very well; he was my apprentice.

Q. During the time that he lived with you, had you an opportunity of seeing him write? - I have seen him write many times; but I suppose it is eight or nine years ago; it is so long ago that I cannot swear positive.

Q. What age was he when he died? - Here is the indenture in my pocket; I suppose he may be three or four and twenty.

Q. Look at that will. - I never see him make any abbreviation in his christian name in my life; he wrote Samuel in full.

Q. Look at the character. Do you believe, or do you not, that is his hand writing? - Really I cannot say; nor I would not wish to say what I do not think.

Court. Supposing it had been wrote at full length, what should you have thought then? - Why then I should rather have thought it was his hand writing.

Mr. Shephard. So all the documents that have been produced, Samuel is wrote contracted.

All three Not GUILTY .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-66

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537. JOHN CHIPCHASE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 16th of September , a bill of exchange for 122l. 12s. the property of Richard Burkitt and Thomas Fothergill .

(The indictment opened by Mr. Knowlys.)


Q. I believe the prisoner was clerk to you and Mr. Fothergill? - Yes.

Q. What is your partner's name? - Thomas Fothergill .

Q. The prisoner at the bar had been your clerk for some time? - Yes, for three or four years. The bill came by post; I opened the letter myself, on the 14th of September; I have the bill.(The bill and letter produced.) I opened it and gave it to one of the clerks; it is due the 17th of September.

Q. Did you receive the money for that bill? - No.

Q. What became of the prisoner? -He absconded with the bill and other property, on the 16th.

Mr. Shepherd. Tell us what situation Chipchase was with you? - Was he clerk with you? - He was. He used to receive money and bills, and once or twice a week I used to settle the balance with him.

Q. So that if, for instance, he might receive money on Monday or Tuesday, on Wednesday you could receive the balance and settle with him? - Yes.

Q. He was, in fact, cashier? - He was employed to receive money and make payments for freight, and such things.

Q. You say this bill came to his possession in the regular course of his business?

- I believe the bill was given to the other clerk, John Forthergill, to carry for acceptance.

Q. But whenever it came into his possession it came in that character, in which he served you? - Yes, just so.

Q. Of course, if this had not happened that bill would have been carried to account in his accounts? - This bill was never entered in the accounts.

Q. I put this question to you; had he not, in the course of his employment, authority from you to receive money and to charge himself with money? - He had not, before they became due.

Q. For instance, that very bill in your hand, if he had not gone away with it, he would have received the money, and if he had wanted any particular sum to disburse, he would have paid it away, and have carried that also into the account? - He may sometimes; but the usual course is for to send it to the bankers, and they are to receive it.

Mr. Knowlys. Your usual course was to send it to the bankers for them to receive it? - Yes, it is.


I am clerk to Messes. Le Febure and Co-bankers, in Cornhill.

Q. Did the prisoner, Chipechase, bring any bill to you on the 16th of September? - Yes.

Q. Has it been since paid? - Yes, paid on the 17th.

Q. When he came to you what did he say? - He put the bills into my hand as usual, on the 16th, I asked him what was to be done with the bills, they were not indorsed.

Q. Is it usual that the parties who send the bills to your house should endorse them? - Always when they are discounted. I asked him whether they should be entered in Mr. Burkitt's account as short bills, or what was to be done with them? He said, he wanted small notes and money for them. I hesitated a little, because it was the custom of every person to indorse every bill they sent in; I offered to give him some light money, which laid on our hands, in order to be changed whenever they chose; he objected to the offer of the light money, and said, it must be good money, it was for Mr. Burkitt's particular use.

Q. Had Messrs. Fothergill any considerable balance in your hands? - Yes, I believe a very considerable one, they always have. I gave him the money, a hundred pounds in small notes, and the rest in cash.

Q. I believe you have received the money on that note for Messrs. Le Febure and Co. as their due? - Yes, I have.

Mr. Raine. I observe you state that when he put the bills into your hands, he did it as usual, by which I should suppose that he was in the constant habit of doing. this? - He used to come three or four times a week paying money, and sometimes taking it out.

Mr. Knowlys. Has he been in the habit of discounting bills? - He has come to the house and left bills.


Q. I believe you are clerk to Messrs. Burkitt and Fothergill? - Yes.

Q. In consequence of the prisoner's going away, you went after him? - Yes, with Miller. He went away on Wednesday the 16th, and I followed him on the Saturday after; we found him at Falmouth, but we went to Plymouth first.

Q. What name did he go by at Falmouth? - He was known by no other name there than Frederic Eden ; he and the young woman that was with him went by the name of Eden.

Q. Did you acquaint him with the nature of the purse it? - He knew, immediately

as he see me he said he did not expect to see me there, or he would not have come ashore if he had; the officer took him, I went on board the ship to get the trunk, it was his trunk, marked Frederic Eden; the prisoner told me where the trunk was; there was a bag of gold in it; Mr. Miller took it out and carried it to London.


Q. You are one of the officers at Bow-street? - Yes.

Q. Did you go to Falmouth to apprehend this young man? - Yes, I went in company with the last young man, John Fothergill; I apprehended the prisoner at the Dolphin, a public house; and after I had Chipchase in custody, and his girl, I went on board the vessel, and brought away a trunk, I opened the trunk, and found a canvas bag containing three hundred and seventy two pounds twelve shillings; here is a receipt of Mr. Fothergill's, which I received for the money.

Q. Did he say any thing when he was taken? - He was rather glad that he was taken, that he might come back again and see his friends.

Q. Do you know what name he passed by? - Captin Eden.

Q. Of whom did you understand that he went by the name of Captain Eden? -Of Mr. Burkitt; I apprehended him by the description of the person, nor by any name.

Mr. Shepherd. You say when he was down there he was desirous of coming back again? - He was.

Q. I believe there was an offer made him by some of the people in the ship, of taking him away in spite of you? - So I was informed.

Q. Did not he tell you that he wished to come back, in order to do justice, but that the American sailors had offered to rescue him if he had chose? - I dare say there were near three hundred seamen about; I believe he spoke to them when he came out; he spoke to the Captain, and I know the Captain whispered to him three or four times before I brought him away, I am sure it would have been impossible for me to have brought him away if he had said half a word; the Captain and the landlord of the house were so much against me, that I thought myself in great danger.

Q. Was it not in consequence of his good conduct that the rescue was prevented? - Certainly.

JOHN SIMS sworn.

Q. I believe you are clerk to Mr. Stothard, the indorsed of that bill? - Yes, I am; the indorsement is his own hand writing.

Q. Do you know the people that carry on business in the name of Gotheridge and Co. - Yes; I took the bill of Mr. Gotheridge myself, I sat by him at the time he drew it.

Q. Do you know Mr. Gotheridge's partner? - Yes, Mr. Henderson.

(The bill read.)

"11 September 1795.


Three days after sight please to pay to Mr. J. Stothard or order, one hundred and twenty-two pounds twelve shillings. value received.

Gootheridge and Co.

To Mossrs. Adams and Welsord, No. 7, Buckingham-street, London.

Accepted for Messrs. Adams and Wetsford 14th of September.

Thomas Cooper ."


Q. I believe you are clerk to Messrs. Adams and Welsford? - I am.

Q. Is that you hand writing? - It is.

Q. I believe you accepted it? - I did.

Q. Do you know Messrs. Gootheridge and Co.? - I do.

Mr. Shepherd submitted to the court, that that which had been proved by the witness against the prisoner, was not of that nature as charged in the indictment, the witnesses proving only a breach of trust, and the indictment charging a felonious

taking; but the court were clearly of opinion that this was a felony, for although he had authority from his master to go and receive money on bills, yet he had no authority from him to go and receive money and apply it to his own use.

The prisoner called five witnesses who gave him a good character.

GUILTY . (Aged 19.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-67
SentenceImprisonment > house of correction; Miscellaneous > fine

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438. GEORGE CLARE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 10th of October , a linen wrapper, value 1s. 3d. four pieces of callico, each containing twenty-eight yards, value 5l. 12s. 3d. the goods of Thomas Taylor .


I am agent to Mr. Taylor, the proprietor of the Ludlow waggon . I was in the house at the side of the gateway of the George in Smithfield , and I see the prisoner come from the warehouse with the truss under his arm; he had got out of the gateway, and going towards St. John's-street; I took him two doors from the gateway, with the truss under his arm.


I am servant to Badger and Hudson. On the 10th of October I packed up four pieces of callico, two pieces of died and two pieces of white, I gave them to our porter, William Bevans , to carry them to the inn.


Q. Did you receive four pieces of callico? - Yes, I carried them to the George inn, Smithfield, I delivered them to the charge of Mr. Taylor; they were not put in the warehouse, they were put on a chest at the warehouse door, I put it there.

Q. Were you present when the prisoner was apprehended? - No, I was just gone.


I was at the George alehouse, the corner of the inn, and the prisoner went out, I had some knowledge of him (he is a shoe maker ) because I had seen him before; I came out to look after him, and I missed him, in missing him I looked down the gateway, and did not see him there, I just turned my back, and I see Barnet have him in custody, with the truss under his arm.

Bevan. This is the truss, I know the marking of it outside, the direction to the gentleman on it is for R. Rickards, Witley. (It is opened)

Wainwright. Here is the invoice, I put it in myself, it is not my hand writing, but I know it, I put my mark upon it.

Prisoner. All the defence I have to say is this, I do not deny that I took it, but I was never out of the yard at all.

GUILTY . (Aged 31.)

Imprisoned two years in the House of Correction , and fined 1s.

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

28th October 1795
Reference Numbert17951028-68
VerdictNot Guilty

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539. ELIHU YALES and SAMUEL NEWELL were indicted for wilful and corrupt perjury .

Mary Ann Shipwash , Booth Brathwaite , and William Bowen were called on their recognizances and not appearing the prisoners were ACQUITTED .

Old Bailey Proceedings supplementary material. .
28th October 1795
Reference Numbero17951028-1

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502. JAMES MONTETH was indicted for that he, on the 28th of September , with a certain offensive weapon and instrument, called a wooden stick, on Walter Smith , Esq . unlawfully, maliciously, and feloniously did make an assault, with a felonious intent to steal his goods, chattels, and monies , against the form of the statute.

The Court ordered the indictment to be quashed for informality, and a new one to be preferred.

See No. 518 subsequent.

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