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THE WHOLE PROCEEDINGS ON THE KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the City of LONDON; AND ALSO The Gaol Delivery for the County of Middlesex; HELD AT JUSTICE HALL in the OLD BAILEY, On Wednesday the 16th of July 1794, and the following Days; Being the SIXTH SESSION in the Mayoralty of The Right Hon. PAUL LE MESURIER, Esq. LORD MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LONDON.

TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND BY MANOAH SIBLY, PROFESSOR OF SHORT-HAND, No. 35, Goswell-Street, And Published by Authority.


LONDON: Printed and published by HENRY FENWICK , No. 63, Snow Hill. PRICE ONE SHILLING and FOUR PENCE.

THE WHOLE PROCEEDINGS ON THE KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON, &c.

BEFORE the Right Honourable PAUL LE MESURIER , Esq. LORD MAYOR of the City of London: The Honourable Sir ARCHIBALD MACDONALD , Knt. Lord Chief Baron of His Majesty's Court of Exchequer: The Honourable Sir JOHN HEATH , Knt. one of the Justices of His Majesty's Court of Common Pleas: The Honourable Sir SOLDEN LAWRENCE, Knt. one of the Justice of His Majesty's Court of King's Bench: Sir JOHN WILLIAM ROSE, Knt. Serjeant at Law, Recorder of the said City; John Silvester , Esq. Common Serjeant at Law of the said City; and others His Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer of the CITY of LONDON, and Justices of Gaol Delivery of NEWGATE, holden for the said City and County of MIDDLESEX.

First London Jury.

Harry Hale

Joseph Norville

Thomas Adamfield

Charles L'oste

William Shearman

William Pryor

Thomas Taylor

William Gunn

Richard Rederick

John Chambers

John Oakley

James Holt

Second London Jury.

George Curzon Addis

Joseph Wells

William Tinkler

James Larkum

David Westbrook

Robert Clarke

Thomas Vendy

John Furnivall

John Brookes

John Southwith

Joseph Angus

Richard Offall

First Middlesex Jury.

John Cole

Robert Stone

Arthur Bott

Francis Thompson ^

William Vinacombe

John Looseley ^

Edward Colemere

Robert Thorpe

Isaac Fountain

Thomas Tims ^

William Shepherd

Peter Wallis

Second Middlesex Jury.

James Nicholls

James Anslett

Thomas Hammond

James Boyle

John Hook

Robert Orford ^

George Mabson

George Byfield

William Exhall

John Robertson

David Porter

Robert Broom .

Robert Oughtram , John Parry , and John Clarke served part of the time in the room of those marked with a star, and William Thompson in the room of Robert Orford .

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-1
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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383. BRIDGET BUCKLEY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 9th of July , in her own dwelling house, five guineas and a half, and a ten pound bank note , the property of John Chapman .


I am a seafaring man . On last Thursday night I was coming up Gravel-lane , where this woman lived, the watchman was just coming two o'clock, I saw this woman and asked her for a lodging; with that she came to me with a candle, and I went up stairs with her, and she said I could not stay there except I gave her two shillings for the lodging, I gave her two shillings, now, says I, I have property about me, I hope you will keep me from being robbed; and I asked her if she was a householder? she said, she was; and I shewed her what I had about me, five guineas and a half in gold, and a ten pound bank note; and I took the buckles out of my shoes and put them into my jacket pocket; after I had shewed her the money and note, I put them into my pocket again; the bank note wrapped up in an account of mine, I put in one of my breeches pockets, and I put my money, five guineas and a half, into the other, wrapped up in a bit of tea paper; then I put my clothes underneath the bed; I put my breeches below, and my jacket over them; I put them both between the bed sacking and the bed; I laid on them. Then she said she wanted some money, to get some liquor; and I gave her another shilling to fetch some; she went out and fetched some, and brought it back, and she wanted me to have some; but I never tasted it; so I don't know what liquor it was. Then I went to sleep, and somewhere about four o'clock I awoke; and she was gone from the room, and I missed the money and bank note, and I found my breeches had been taken from underneath my jacket, and put the other side of the bed, moved from where I left them; then I got up and went to the next door -

Q. When you went to sleep had she left the room? - No, she was in the room. I went into the next door and asked them if they knew any thing of the woman? they said they knew nothing of her; and then I thought that she had taken my buckles as well as my money, and I went back to see, and I found they were there; she did not take them away. I told the people next door that she had robbed me of five guineas and a half, and a ten pound bank note: I then went and put my clothes on and went in search of her myself, and could not find her, and I set George Forrester to seek after her, and he brought her to me in about an hour, and he found five guineas on her.

Q. How soon was she brought to you after you got up? - I was two hours looking for her myself; it might be three hours in the whole, after I got up, before I see the woman again; I found five guineas and a half in gold, and the account with my name on it, and three

shillings, and sixteen copper halfpence; the money was found under her right arm pit; I did not see the money on her myself, the tea paper was found on her that the money was in, but not with the money; after she was committed that gentleman found on her nine guineas, and six-pence besides.

Q. Have you ever found your bank note? - No, but I found the paper that it was wrapped up in.

Q. Do you know whether she has the whole of this house? - I asked her whether she was a householder? she said she was.


I am one of the headboroughs of St. Paul's, Shadwell, I produce five guineas and a half, that I took out of the prisoner's right hand, from under her left arm pit, the money was in her hand, in this piece of paper, which has Chapman's account on it; she made a great struggle before I could get it, and then I went to search her further for the bank note, and she told me she had lost it in coming from New Gravel-lane, to the Bull's Head, opposite the Blue Coat-fields, and I searched her, and found this account paper; she said she lost the bank note in taking out some paper to light a pipe, as she was coming along in very great haste. After that I searched her further, and I found this paper under her arm, that the prosecutor said the bank note was in, I found her at the chandler's shop, opposite the Thistle and Crown, in St. George's-fields, she lives in Elbow-lane, New Gravel-lane.

Q. What may the distance be between the two places? - I look upon it, it is better than half a mile, by the way that she went, as I got information.

Q. Did you shew that paper to the prosecutor, in the presence of the prisoner? - Yes, and I brought the prisoner to the prosecutor, and he said that was the woman, he knew her immediately.

Q. Where was it he first saw the woman? - In my custody.

Q. Did he know you was an officer? - Yes.

Q. Did you produce the things that were taken from her? - Yes; and he told her she was a bad woman; and she said she did it through distress; he said she had taken from him a ten pound bank note, and five guineas and a half in gold.

Q. Did he speak to any money at all? - He don't know any money at all; he has not swore to any money.

Q. Did you see any more money taken from her except the five guineas and a half? - I did not.


I am servant to Mr. Newport, of New Prison, the woman was delivered to my custody, and I took and searched her; Thursday last, and I found eight guineas and two half guineas, tied up in the bottom of her shift, tucked up between her legs; she said she was very sorry that I had taken the money from her, that the money was her own property.

Q. To Prosecutor. See whether this is the paper in which you put your bank note? - Yes, it is, I cannot swear to the money, but I can swear to this bit of paper.

Q. Where had you been at this time? - I was coming from Fox's rendezvous house, I had been pressed, and they had given me my discharge; I had not drank any thing, I was not at all drunk.

Prisoner. There was no lock to my door, it was broke open, and another girl lived along with me, and I went out for a quartern of gin, and before I went out I told that girl that this man had got property about him, and desired her not to go out; and while I was out I stopped to

get a pint of beer, and she stole away from my company, and went back into my own room, and when I came into the room, she was laying over the man, and she had his breeches in her hand, and I asked her what she was doing there, and told her that she had a deal of assurance to come into my room, when I desired her not to come, and she shewed me something in her hand, and said to me, did not I tell you that he had some property about him, and I blamed her for coming into my room, and then she gave me the note and money.

Q. To Prosecutor. Did you at any time see any other woman in the house? - Not a soul, but the prisoner at the bar.

GUILTY, Of stealing, but not in the dwelling house .

(Aged 37.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-2
VerdictNot Guilty

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384. JOSEPH TRANTER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 19th of November , three locks, called cannon locks, value 1l. 10s. the goods of John Knubley .


I am a gun maker at Charing Cross, I know the prisoner, he worked with me a little time, perhaps a month, or two months, he worked a very little, and played a vast deal; I turned him away because of his quarrelling with the other men in the shop, when he went away he owed me two guineas, and one day after that I met him, and he said he would be very glad to pay me if I would give him work, if I would give him some locks to file he would pay me a shilling out of every lock he filed, in consequence he came, and I gave him six locks to file, and he took them and filed the marks out of them, the initials of my name, and fold them, he never returned them to me; after he had them he returned three back of the six, and I returned them him to get altered, from which time I never saw them more.

Q. What became of the other three? - I never saw nothing of them.

Q. Where did he file them? - At a place in Moorfields.

Q. You gave him six, and he brought back three, did you ask him for the other three? - He was to bring the other three the Saturday following.

Q. What day of the week was it he brought the three? - It was the 19th of November, I don't know the day of the week.

Q. What are these locks worth apiece? - They are worth half a guinea apiece, in the state in which he had them from me.

Q. How came you by them afterwards? - I never had them.

Q. Did not you know where he lived? - I did not, because he was secreted by another man. I asked him where he lived, but he said it was nothing to me, so as I had my work done.

Prisoner. Ask him whether ever I received the locks back again? - Yes, he says you brought him them, and he gave them you back again to repair.

Prisoner. I can prove to the contrary, I never received them, the man that he has brought against me, did receive them, and sell them; it is a spiteful piece of business, because I would not work for him; I am a hard working man, though he has punished me very much for six months.


I am a gun-lock filer, I know the pri

soner at the bar, at that time I was at work in the prisoner's shop, a shop which his master had furnished for him, one Mr. Shew, in East Smithfield; the prisoner's shop was in Long-alley, Moorfields.

Q. Was you his servant? - Yes.

Prisoner. He was in partnership with me.

Collings. He paid me my wages; I never took any work out or brought any In. One day when I was at work there, his house-keeper, the woman that he cohabits with, brings up six locks into the shop, they were marked I. K. and she told him that he must take them and repair them, and take them to the Tower and get them inspected, and then Mr. Knubley would give the remainder of the money.

Q. Then you understood that somebody or other had brought these locks to the house-keeper? - Where she brought them from I cannot tell.

Q. Did you understand it so at the time? - I understood that he had sent her to Knubley's with them, and they were returned to be repaired.

Q. You told me just this moment that the house-keeper brought up the locks and gave them to the prisoner, and told him that he must repair them, and take them to the Tower; from that, the first he had seen of these locks was from the house-keeper? - He had made the locks, filed them, and sent them to Mr. Knubley, and Mr. Knubley gave a guinea towards the money, and sent them back again to be repaired.

Q. What day of the month or week was that, that you saw these come up into the shop? - I never took any notice of the time; it was some time before Christmas.

Q. Were six cannon locks brought up there? - Yes.

Q. What did the prisoner say about them? - The prisoner said he should not repair them, he should take the names out, and take them to Mr. Shews.

Q. Who began the conversation? - The house-keeper brought the locks up into the shop, and told him he must repair them; then she went out of the shop and left them; and then he said he should not repair them.

Q. Was this the first you ever saw of the locks? - No, the first time that ever I saw the locks was when they were made; the prisoner made the locks.

Q. Then you understood that Knubley sent back these locks to be repaired? - Yes. It is the rule of the trade for the workmen to take them to the Tower inspector, and if they are returned the workmen repairs them till the inspector puts his mark upon them.

Q. Do you know the reason that he said he would sell them to his master? - No, only he did not like to repair them.

Prisoner. Ask him whether he was in partnership with me or not? - I was not; he always paid me my wages.

Prisoner. He received the money and gave me what he liked.

Court to Knubley. To whom did you return the locks to repair them? - To Tranter himself.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-3
VerdictNot Guilty

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385. JEREMIAH ELLIS was indicted for making an assault, on the King's highway, on John Edwards , on the 6th of July , putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person, and against his will, a boy's hat, value 1s. the goods of Paul Marshall .


I am a leather dresser. On Sunday before last, in the evening, about nine o'clock, as I was standing at my own door, I heard the cry of stop thief! and I went out immediately.

Q. Where is your house? - On Stepney Green . I found it, the lad whose master lodged in my house, and the prisoner was in custody, got hold of; I said to the prisoner, where is this lad's hat.

Q. How came you to know any thing about the hat? - Because some neighbour came up and said, there was something the matter with our little boy. When I asked the prisoner about the lad's hat, he said, what more do you want with me, if I let you know where it is? and he had not spoke the word hardly a minute, but a woman came and brought me the hat.

Q. Did the prisoner say any thing else? - No; but they took him to the watch-house.

Prisoner. He has spoke two or three words that are not right, about my shewing where the hat was.

Clarke. He certainly did say it; I laid hold of his shoulder, and said, where is the hat? and he said what more do you want with me, if I let you know where it is?


Last Sunday was a week I was coming over Stepney Green, about nine o'clock in the evening, or a little after, I saw the prisoner at the bar run or walk away from the little boy who belonged to the hat; immediately the little boy ran after him and called out stop thief! I had my wife with me, I desired her to walk on, and I would pursue the prisoner, which immediately I did, and stopped him, and searched him; he had no hat on him then; as I was bringing him to the watch-house, he sadly wanted to stop, and begged that I would go round a turning in order that he might find the hat.


Q. How old are you? - I was nine years old last January.

Q. Do you know the consequence of not telling truth, if you are sworn to tell the truth? - Yes, I shall go to a wicked place.


Please your lordship, I was standing up by one captain Scott's, Sunday evening before last, about nine o'clock, hearing the harpsichord played by Miss Scott, in the house.

Q. Where is captain Scott's house? - In Stepney Green; and this man and two more coming by they stopped about five minutes, and the other two went up into a little place belonging to Mr. Jones's boarding school, and I spoke then to the prisoner, says I, this is very pretty music; yes, says he, it is; and then he took my hat off my head and went to the other two, and went down to the turning at the ship, and there he dropped it, and I went after him, and he went and stood behind a tree, and when I got close to him, as I am to you, I hallooed out stop thief! then this gentleman, Mr. Tipper, coming by taking a walk, he heard me cry stop thief! and he took him.

Q. Whose hat was it? - My hat; it was given me by one Paul Marshall ; I live in the house with this gentleman, Paul Marshall , he took a liking to me and he bought me the hat.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice LAWRENCE.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-4

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386. WILLIAM LEESON was indicted for feloniously making an assault on Edmund Cox , on the 29th of June , putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person and against his will, half a guinea, two half crowns, and four shillings and six pence; his monies .


I am a day labouring man ; I was robbed the 29th of last month, the Sunday morning about two o'clock, as nigh as possible; I was coming from Peckham Rye; I had been to a dinner, which master gave to me and my fellow servants.

Q. Was you in company with any body? - No, nobody but myself.

Q. Did you meet with any body by the way? - I met with the prisoner and three more, facing Drury-lane Play-house . William Leeson is the man that collared me; he catched me by the collar when I came to pass by him, and said, you are my deserter; I said, no, I never was a deserter, nor a soldier, and as I tried to get from him he struck me with a stick across my head, and they were all four on me at once; they were two of them behind me, and two before me, and Leeson held me up by the chin, and they took half a guinea out of my pocket, two half crowns, and four shillings and sixpence; then the other three made off, and ran behind the Play-house; then Leeson he drawed back, and I had a stick in my hand, and I held it to strike him, and he took a pistol out of his pocket, and took hold of me, and I called out watch! and the watch came.

Q. Did he attempt to run away? - No, he never attempted to get away; when the watchman came down he had got me fast by the collar, and the watchman he parted him from me.

Q. Did the watchman take Leeson into custody? - No, not that watchman, he let him go, and I followed him under the Piazzas of Covent Garden, and I charged him with the two watchmen that he was talking with; and they said they were not watchmen; and I said, then if they were not watchmen they were patrols; they said they were not; and there came by another gentleman, and I told him of it, and he said they had a right to take him to the watch-house; and they said no, they should not, they should take him along with them, because he was a friend of theirs; and then the watchmen they guarded him away towards St. Giles's; they would not take him, nor would let any body else.

Q. Did that other person attempt to take him? - Yes; but the watchmen would not let any body take him; they took him away along with them.

Q. Do you know what became of Leeson after that? - I don't know what became of him till the officer of Bow-street took him; they found him with the pistol in his pocket, drinking with the two watchmen that were with him; I did not see him.

Q. When did you see Leeson next after that? - Not till he was before the justice; that was the Monday morning following.

Q. Did you know him again? - O, yes! I knew him again.

Q. Was he among others? - Yes.

Q. Did you point him out? - Yes.

Q. How many others were there? - I cannot say particularly.

Q. Coming home so late at night, or rather early in the morning, you, perhaps, was worse for liquor? - I was as sober as I am now.

Q. How came you to stay out so late at night? - We had been mercy together, all working men together, but I was as sober and sensible, and capable as I am now.

Q. When you see him at Bow-street, he was in custody then? - Yes.

Q. Did you charge him with the robbery then? - Yes.

Q. Did you charge him to the watchmen that night? - Yes, I did, directly as they came.

Mr. Knowlys. How do you get your livelihood? - I work in a rope ground.

Q. Did you lose all your money, or only part of it? - All.

Q. What time did you go to dinner? - Between two and three o'clock I suppose, at Peckham Rye.

Q. So you had been from two or three o'clock in the afternoon, till it came round again the next morning? - Yes.

Q. What time did you break up at dinner? - I suppose it might be half past eleven, or near twelve.

Q. Where had you been from that time till two o'clock? - It is a good way from Peckham Rye to Drury-lane.

Q. If you had been sober, you might have walked it in an hour? - I did not hurry.

Q. Will you be so good as to tell us how you came to be three hours coming from Peckham Rye to Drury-lane, just by the Play house? - I did not hurry myself home in the cool of the morning.

Q. Do you mean to say that you walked in the common straight road to this place? - Yes.

Q. And yet you was three hours coming straight to this place? Where do you live? - In James's-street, Oxford-road.

Q. That was not quite the straight way? - Yes, I believe it is as nigh a way as I can go.

Q. Had you met with any company at all by the way? - No, I had not met with any company at all.

Q. Then this man and the three men that were with him, were the only persons that were present at the time that this took place? - Yes, they were the only persons.

Q. Was there not a crowd of twenty or thirty people in the street at the time that this man laid hold of you? - Not a man or woman in the street, except these three. There was not that I saw.

Q. There had not been a fight at a public house? - I don't know any such thing.

Q. You say this man laid hold of you, while the other three robbed you? - He did.

Q. You perceived that they were robbing you? - I did not till they let me go; the prisoner forced up my chin.

Q. I thought you said that that man, Leeson, put his hand into his pocket, and pulled his pistol out? - He did.

Q. You told the watchman that they robbed you? - I did, when he came up.

Q. Upon your oath did you tell the watchman when he first came up, that they had robbed you? - I did not, I put my hand up to wipe the blood off my cheek, and I put my hand down again, and I found my breeches pocket was open.

Q. Then the first time the watchman came up, you did not complain of any robbery at all? - I had not time, and he went to take the other men that went off.

Q. First of all before the watchman came, the prisoner and his companions took this money from you? - They did.

Q. Then you might have told the watchman that they robbed you? - I did not know then that I was robbed, I did charge him with the robbery as quick as I could.

Q. He says, this man is a deserter, that is the reason I lay hold of him; you did not say this man has robbed me, you only said, I am not a deserter? - No, I am no deserter.

Q. Did not the watchman say when you saw him the second time, that he

would not take him, because you did not charge him the first time he came up? - He said he was out of his beat.

Q. Mind the question, you told the watchman the second time, that he had robbed you? - Yes, so I told the watchman, and he said, but he is now out of my liberty, and you must follow him to Covent-garden.

Q. Upon your oath did not you challenge this man to fight? - No.

Q. At no time whatever during this transaction? - No, I did not, at no time whatever during this transaction.

Q. Nor never a word said about fighting? - No.

Q. Did you search this man? - No.

Q. Was he searched at the office? - I suppose so, they found a pistol in his pocket.

Court. Was you present when it was found? - No.

Mr. Knowlys. When did you receive this money? - Saturday morning about eleven o'clock, master paid me.

Q. You had no occasion to pay away any money from that time till the evening? - I never paid away any of that money, master paid for all we had.

Q. I take it for granted that as you drank at another man's cost, you did not spare the liquor? - There was plenty of every thing, but I did not take to hurt me.

Q. The prisoner is a recruiting sergeant, is not he? - He is for what I know.

Q. Don't you know that he is? - Yes, any one may know that he is one.

Q. If this man is convicted of a highway robbery you would get forty pounds? - I don't want forty pounds, I am able to work with my hands.

Court. Did you fall into company with any girls by the way from Peckham Rye to Drury-lane? - No.

Q. How came you to be so long going that distance? - We never hurried ourselves, we came along very gently.

Q. Where did you part with your com-Panions? - I forget the sign of the public house where we were, I never was there before.

Q. Which way did you come home? - I came over London Bridge home, and the others went to Deptford.


I am a watchman belonging to St. Martin's in the Fields; I had been the half hour after two, round my beat. I am a watchman in Russel-street, facing the Play-house; it was the 29th of June, I was coming down the court, that is called Crown-court, I hears a great noise, I hastened into Russel-street, to know what was the matter; when I came there, there were five or six men, I did not count them, and they were making a noise, and they were crossing each other, some on one side of the street and some on the other, as if they were at a game of play, and they were taking off one anothers hats, with a cuff first from one, and then to another, then I went up to them, and requested that they would not be so disturbing; I had no sooner spoke the word, but one of the companions came to me immediately, and laid hold of my stick, with whom I had a great struggle, but he did not get it from me, and I had like to have been down once or twice, but I held hold fast of the stick, the other man fell down on his bottom in pulling, and he would not loose the stick, and by pulling I pulled him up again from the stones, and when he was up he took to his heels and run, then I had a hand loose to take and spring the rattle, which I did, and followed him; I left the others all along with the prosecutor in the street, while I pursued this that had got hold of my stick.

Q. Did you hear any body call out for your assistance? - I did not hear any body; the man that had hold of my

stick, he ran past one of our watchmen at the corner, and I left off the chase, and came back again to the spot where this piece of business was; when I came back the prisoner at the bar had got hold of the prosecutor by the collar, challenging him with being a recruit, and a deserter, from which the prosecutor cried out aloud, and said, watchman, I am not a recruit nor a deserter, I have been ill treated by this man; says I to the prosecutor, are you sure that you are right? I am, says he, I am neither a recruit nor a deserter.

Q. Did you see any other man about? - No, I see nothing of the kind.

Q. When did the other men go away? - They dispersed at the spring of my rattle, some one way and some another; I stepped up to the sergeant, and says to him, loose your hold, and let the man go, what business have you with the man; I made him loose his hold; now, my man, says I, do you make the best of your way home.

Q. Did the prisoner appear in liquor at that time? - I cannot say that I see him any was disguised. The prosecutor then went towards Covent-garden, then I was left in Russel-street alone, no man there besides myself; in about five or ten minutes the prosecutor came to me, and told me that he was robbed by them men? robbed, says I, why had not you said so sooner, I would then have taken some of them.

Q. Did he give you any reason why he did not say so sooner? - He did not give any answer to that, he asked me if I knew any of them? I told him I did not, they were all strangers to me, the same as he was, but I believed the sergeant, whom I took from his collar, belonged to Captain Leeson 's recruiting office, in Covent-garden, but I was not sure; says the prosecutor, watchman, will you go along with me? says I, had you spoke to me during the time that the business was, I would have gone any where with you, but it is so long since; and in Covent-garden there are plenty of watchmen which if you see him you can put him into custody.

Q. How long time had elapsed from the first time you came down to these people? - It might be five or ten minutes. So I refusing to go with him into Covent-garden, he goes by himself under the Piazzas of Covent-garden; he came back again to me, and told me that he had seen the prisoner at the bar under the piazzas of Covent-garden, but I did not go with him.

Mr. Knapp. You had never had any acquaintance with this man, the prisoner at the bar? - I had seen him passing in Covent-garden.

Q. The prisoner was never charged to you? - No, he was not.

Q. You say that this prisoner and other people were crossing the street, running backward and forward when you first saw them? - Yes, and the prosecutor too.

Q. And they even throwed one anothers hats about? - Yes.

Court to Prosecutor. You said that under the piazza you saw two watchmen and charged them with the prisoner and they said he was their friend, what piazza was that? - Under the piazza in Covent-garden.

Q. Not the piazza in Drury-lane? - No.

Mr. Knowlys to Axhall. If the man had made any charge against the sergeant for an Highway robbery, you would have taken him and done your duty? - Certainly I should; he did not say any thing to me about a robbery till he had left the street and come back again, about five or ten minutes after.

Q. How long do you think you was settling that business, whether he was a

deserted recruit or not? - A very short time that was.

Q. Now from the time that you was in view of all the parties when they were at play together with the hats and so on, and when you parted the prosecutor and this man how long might it be? - That was at the last of all, there was none other then left but the sergeant and the prosecutor.

Q. Did the sergeant attempt to run away when you parted them? - No, I pushed the prosecutor one way and the sergeant another, and they both went on slowly.

Q. Do you not think the prosecutor was in liquor? - He must have been a drinking, but he did not seem to me to be drunk, he could talk and walk very well.

Q. You never suspected that any highway robbery had taken place till this man came back? - No, I did not.

Q. At the time you first came up the prosecutor was one of that number? - He was one among them.

Court. You did not hear watchman called? - I did not, but hearing a noise I went down the court to see what was the matter.


I belong to Bow-street. On the 29th of last month, the prosecutor came and informed me in the morning, about four o'clock, that he had been robbed; I was in Bow-street, walking along by the door of the Brown Bear public house; I had two prisoners in charge there; he informed me that he had been robbed of half a guinea, two half crowns, and four shillings and six-pence in silver, by the prisoner at the bar, and three more men; he described the prisoner, and I went round Covent Garden to see if I could find him, and I found him in a public house with his head on a table asleep; I came back again and sent for Mr. Miller, another officer; and we both went and took him into custody, and brought him to the Brown Bear ; Mr. Miller searched him in my presence, and found a few halfpence on him, and a pistol.

Q. Do these recruiting sergeants ever go armed in that way? - Not to my knowledge; he had his sword and sword belt on, which I took from him.

Mr. Knowlys. This public house where you found the sergeant, was the house where the recruiting business was done? - No, I believe not.

Q. How far from it? - This was in Tavistock-row, one side of Covent Garden, the sign of the Queen's Head.

Q. Do not they frequent that place sometimes? - I don't know of my own knowledge.

- MILLER sworn.

Q. You was present and found this pistol? - Yes, I was.

Q. Was the pistol loaded? - No, there was some powder in this under barrel; but there was no ball nor no priming.

Mr. Knowlys. You knew that he belonged to captain Leeson's recruiting party? - Yes, he is a sergeant there.

Prisoner. I had been along with my recruiting party for a good part of the night, and we had got three recruits, and my officer told me I must go down to Chatham with some recruits, and carry this pistol in my pocket. I was in the street coming along, and this prosecutor came and asked me if I would sight? I told him that I thought that I knew his face, that he belonged to our regiment, and the watchman came up while I was looking at him, and told me to quit him, and I came up to one of our houses in Covent Garden, and stopped there, and two gentlemen came from Bow-street, and took me into possession, and the

prosecutor charged me with the robbery.

Captain PATRICK LEESON sworn.

I am a captain of a recruiting party; I attested the prisoner as a private, made him a corporal, and then a sergeant.

Q. Was he at that time, the 29th of June, in want of money? - He never was, he always had money when he wanted it.

Q. It is customary for persons in his department, to have pistols in his pocket or not? - Whenever I sent him with any recruits to Chatham, I always gave him a pistol not loaded, to accompany them.

LEVY SAUL sworn.

I am a Shoe-maker, in Liquor Pond-street, Gray's Inn-lane.

Q. Did you happen to be at this place where this business happened? - Yes.

Q. Did you see the prosecutor there? - Yes; to the best of my knowledge that is the man.

Q. Did you see the sergeant there? - Yes.

Q. Was you acquainted with him before? - Never.

Q. Where did you see him? - At the corner of Russel-street, Covent Garden, about a quarter before three, Sunday morning, the 29th of June, I and my friend agreed to take a walk down about Covent Garden; we went and looked into the Red Lion, and saw the prisoner quarrelling with some man, but not the prosecutor, a thinner man, and they upbraided him with being a trappanning sergeant, and wanted to fight, and this man and the other came out, and they were at it, quarrelling till near a quarter before four o'clock.

Q. How far did you accompany them? - I had them in fight about twenty or thirty yards.

Q. How long did they quarrel together? - For about three quarters of an hour in the whole.

Q. Where was the quarrel? - It began in the house, but it was afterwards in Russel-street.

Q. Was the prosecutor in the house? - Not to my knowledge.

Q. Where did you see the prosecutor? - In Russel-street, I believes it was him.

Q. How far from the Play-house? - Right opposite.

Q. How long did you see the prosecutor and the sergeant together? - I think about twenty minutes or half an hour, quarrelling and differing one with the other.

Q. Did they do any thing more than quarrelling together? - Not to my knowledge or sight.

Q. Was there any thing mentioned relative to any body being a deserter? - I did not hear that.

Court. Then you only say that you believe it is the prosecutor? - To the best of my knowledge it is.

The prisoner called three witnesses who gave him a good character.

Court to Axhall. Did you see any mark of blood about him, as if he had received a blow? - I did not; he told me that he had been ill used; that was what he told me.

GUILTY . Death . (Aged 23.)

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-5
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence
SentenceNo Punishment > sentence respited

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387. JAMES GULLIVAN was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of the right honourable Welbore Ellis , about the hour of twelve in the night, of the 23d of June , and burglariously stealing therein,

five cloth coats, value 4l. a sustian frock, value 5s. nine linen shirts, value 3l. three pair of buckskin breeches, value 1l. 10s. three cloth waistcoats, value 9s. the goods of Thomas Weedon .


I am a servant to Mr. Ellis, on the 23d of June last, I was a coachman ; I left my clothes locked up in a trunk; I left them there the 18th of June, when I went into the country, I left them in the room over the buildings that adjoins to the house, in Little Brook-street, Hanover-square.

Q. Is that the room where you go to sleep? - Yes.

Q. When did you return to town? - When the news came I was robbed, on the 25th.

Q. What clothes had you left in the trunk? - I had left all these things I have brought here, and these that I have got on. Here is one coat, two waistcoats, and a pair of breeches, and the coat, waistcoat, and breeches that I have on, when I went out of town I left three pair of buckskin breeches in the trunk; five coats, and a fustian frock, three waistcoats, and nine shirts; all my own property.

Q. When did you next see the things? - I went and had a warrant taken out against the prisoner, and found the duplicates in his pocket; he was second coachman along with me about two months before; but he was then out of place.

Q. Was he used to sleep in the room where you did, when he was in Mr. Ellis's service? - Yes, in the same room, all the time he was in Town, in the same room where this trunk was left.

Q. Did you see the duplicates taken out of his pocket? - I did; I was there.

Q. Who apprehended him? - Myself; Kennedy was with me, he has the duplicates. The rest of the clothes were found between the bed and the sacking where he lodged; three coats a waistcoat, and a pair of breeches.

Q. Was it in the room wherein the prisoner lodged? - Yes; the landlord found the clothes, and sent them home to our servants.

Q. Where were the other things found? - At the pawnbroker's; I went with the man who went after them; two coats were found at Mr. Mulcaster's; these that I now produce were found at the landlord's house where he lived; it was one of our servants who first found my trunk broke open.

Q. Where is she? - She is at the town house, Hanover-square; she is not here.


I am a pawnbroker. On the 24th of June the prisoner at the bar pledged these two coats with me; I am sure it was him; this is the duplicate I gave.

Prosecutor. These are the two coats that were left in the trunk, and they are mine.


I am a pawnbroker. On the 25th of June in the evening, the prisoner pledged these nine shirts with me.

Prosecutor. These are the nine shirts that were left in the trunk; they have my name on them.


I am a constable. On the 26th of last month, the prosecutor came to the office in Marlborough-street for two warrants, one to search the prisoner's apartments, and the other to take him into custody; I went and searched the apartment, and found the prisoner there, and found these duplicates there, which led to the things that have been produced.

Prisoner. I leave it to the mercy of the court.

GUILTY, Of stealing to the value of 39s. but not of the burglary. (Aged 22.)

Judgement respited .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice LAWRENCE.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-6
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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388. THOMAS TAYLOR and JOHN CLARKE were indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of John Frankcom , about the hour of one in the night, on the 26th of June , and burglariously stealing therein, one wooden till, value 1s. forty-eight halfpence, and forty-eight farthings, his property .

(The case opened by Mr. Knowlys.)


I live at No. 34, Little Queen-street, Holborn .

Q. Are you the sole proprietor of the house? - Yes; I have got a lodger there, but I pay the rent myself.

Q. On the 26th of June, the night the house was broke open, who was the last person up? - I was, I went to bed about half past ten o'clock.

Q. How was your door secured? - Bolted with three bolts; that I did myself.

Q. The outer door? - Yes.

Q. What time of the morning was you called up? - About half past two o'clock. There were then two bolts quite broke off, and one bolt hung only by one nail; my till was taken out of the place where it was, it was not locked as some tills are; it contained silver, halfpence, and farthings, I suppose, to the amount of twenty shillings in all, but there was only about four shillings worth taken out of the till of copper, and put on the counter.

Q. Where was the till itself? - It was taken from under the counter, and put by the window.

Q. Are you certain the money was not on the counter when you went to bed? - I am certain of it.

Mr. Knapp. In the first place, I believe, you have a partner in your business? - No, I have not; I am a cheesemonger.

Q. How many does your family consist of? - I have two sisters and myself; they went to bed before me.

Q. The till you have been talking of was in the shop? - It was.

Q. The till, you say was not locked? - It was not.

Q. Whatever money was in the till was not removed out of the house at all; but there was four shillings on the counter? - Yes; and, I believe, there was a handful laid on the floor.

Q. Was there any gold in the till? - No, there was nothing but halfpence and farthings.

Q. Had you counted your money the over night? - I had not; we very seldom count farthings and halfpence.

Q. You had several examinations before the magistrate? - Yes.

Q. The magistrate at one time was going to discharge the prisoners, was not he? - I don't know that.


I live in Little Queen-street, nearly opposite Mr. Frankcom's; I am a lodger at Mr. Biddle's.

Q. That night that Mr. Frankcom's house was broke open, was you alarmed? - Yes, about a quarter after one o'clock, I got up, I did not observe any thing at that moment, but in about two minutes

I went to the window and observed two men come to Mr. Frankcom's door.

Q. Was there light enough to distinguish their persons at that time? - Not at that time.

Q. Could you perceive what they were doing? - I could perceive them nestling about the door, but no more at that time.

Q. What did you perceive afterwards? - I had another person with me; we stopped there for some time, and then went down to Mr. Biddle's first floor, there I could make a better observation of them; we then saw the same two men making an attempt to open the door.

Q. Could you perceive that? - Yes.

Q. How were they attempting to open the door? - By some kind of instrument, wrenching both the side and the top of the door; then after trying, about half past two o'clock they wrenched open the door.

Q. At that time was there so much day light that you could distinguish their faces? - We could distinguish their faces.

Q. Could you by the day light without the lamps? - Yes.

Q. Was there any moon light? - No.

Q. When they had wrenched open the door, what did they do then? - Immediately me and the man that was looking at them went down stairs in order to take them; after they had wrenched open the door we see them go in.

Q. Was your brother, William Wright, with you at this time, in the one pair of stairs? - Yes, and John Lawn, and Thomas Banbury . Then we went down stairs and opened our door; I planted there these three at Mr. Biddle's outer door, and then I went up stairs at the one pair of stairs window, to see if the persons who entered the house were watching; after that I came down and told them that I believed all was safe. We immediately went out of Mr. Biddle's door, and me and my brother went and alarmed the watchman, and brought the watchman to Mr. Frankcom's door, and I beat with the stick against the window shutters, and I found the handle of the door turn in my had, and the person inside got the door open about two or three inches; I then thought it necessary that I should lay hold of it with both hands, I did so, and then I found that there was no more pulling for a long time, and I called to Mr. Frankcom, and he looked out of window, and then we went in after we thought the house was sufficiently alarmed; I did not go in, the watchman went in, and Thomas Banbury ; I stood at the door left any more should come.

Q. Who did they bring out of the house? - Them are the two that they brought out. I am confident.

Mr. Knapp. You are sure that it was perfectly light so that you could distinguish them without any moon light? - I could, because the street is very narrow,


I am the brother of the last witness, I lodge at Mr. Biddle's; when Mr. Biddle's sister came and called us, it was about a quarter past one in the morning, we went to the window and discerned two persons breaking into Mr. Frankcom's house, and we discerned them till the time they got in, which was between two and half past two o'clock; they broke in by an iron crow, and they let something fall which appeared to be a wedge or something of that kind; we stopped till we see them break the door open and go in, and directly we came down stairs and secured

Mr. Frankcom's door, and they were inside at the same time.

Q.Did you go in with the watchman? - No, I stood outside of the door, I saw the two prisoners brought out, both of them.

Court. How light was it when they entered? - We could see their faces, but we could not perfectly discover their features.

Q. Could you if you had been nearer? - Yes.

Q. Who went within side of the house? - Banbury.


I lodge in Mr. Biddle's house. I went into Mr. Frankcom's house with the watchman.

Q. When you went in whom did you find there? - The first I saw was Mr. Taylor, behind the door of the street, it opens into the shop.

Q. Had he any thing with him? - I did not perceive any thing with him.

Q. How long had they entered the house when you entered? - About five minutes.

Q. Where did you find the other person? - Further behind the door, closer up.

Q. Did you examine the shop? - There was the halfpence I saw laying about the floor, and some on the counter.

Q. Did you see the counter till? - No, I did not.

Q. Did you find any thing else in the shop? - I did not, I went along with the watchman to the watch-house with them.

Q. Could you at all see what the door was broke open with? - I could perceive they got an instrument breaking it open with.

Q. Did you ever see the instrument after? - (A crow produced.) I should suppose that this is the instrument.

Q. How was the door? - Every one of the panes of glass were all bursted from the door.


I am a watchman. About half an hour after two on Friday the 27th of June, I was called to take two house breakers. I was the first man that went in and took Clarke by the collar behind the door; I saw some halfpence laying down on the counter, between three and four shillings-worth, I did not see them counted; the landlord of the house found the crow.

Frankcom. I found the crow laying on some bacon on one side of the door.

Q. How many halfpence were laying on the counter? - About four shillings-worth.

Mr. Knapp. In fact you lost nothing at all? - I did not miss any thing.

The prisoner Taylor called five witnesses, and the prisoner Clarke one, who gave them good characters.


Of the Larceny but not of the burglary.

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before

Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-7
VerdictsGuilty > lesser offence; Not Guilty

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389. MARY BURKE was indicted for making an assault on Christian Anderson , in the dwelling house of Margaret Wood, spinster, on the 5th of July , putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person, and against his will, twenty-two guineas and ten shillings and

six-pence, in monies numbered, his property ; and

HANNAH ROPER was indicted for that she, well knowing the said Mary Burke to have committed such felony, did her, the said Mary Burke , feloniously receive, harbout and maintain .


I was in New Gravel lane , last Saturday, seven days ago, it was almost ten o'clock, I was going to my lodging house there, when I came into the street, the woman, Mary Burke, came out, and took off my hat from my head, and ran into the house, so I came after her and asked for my hat, so she ran out and locked the door, and I was in the room, it was a little room; it was in the night, I could not see what sort of a room; I had got two and twenty guineas in my pocket, in gold, I took it out and tied it in my handkerchief, I was frightened when I found I was in the house.

Q. Where was the handkerchief at that time? - I got it in my hand.

Q. How came you to take it out of your pocket? - She locked the door, and I did not know for what; she then came into the room again, and snatched the handkerchief out of my hand, and ran out.

Q. How came she to know that this money was in this handkerchief, or in your hand? - I cannot tell that, I don't know if she see it.

Q. Was there any light in the room? - No, I could not tell where I was; she got a light in her hand when she came in the second time, and I was on the floor of the ground when she took the money from me; she went out, and I went after her into another woman's house.

Q. After she had snatched the money out of your hand, in the handkerchief, where did she go? - That woman, Hannah Roper, and another woman along with her, came and took her out of doors; they catched her by the arms.

Q. Were they in the house? - Yes, they were in the fore room, on the same floor. When she snatched the money out of my hand, she went in where these two other women were; I went to her there, and catched hold of her there, and catched hold of my handkerchief, and she had the money then in her hand; she had taken it out of the handkerchief; I found nothing in it but the half guinea, silver money, which tumbled on the ground; then that woman, Roper, and some other woman put her out of the house, and an old woman catched hold of me, and said, stop young man, you shall have your money.

Q. I don't understand your taking your money out of your pocket and putting it into your handkerchief? - I think I could keep it faster in my handkerchief than in my pocket.

Q. What became of her afterwards? - I came into the street and called the watch, when he called ten o'clock, and I went back to that same house where I had been, and the door was locked, and I went and asked for the girl that had got my money, of the old woman that took me by the jacket.

Q. What became of Mary Broke after this? Where did she go? - I don't know where she went; the officer found her, I don't know where; I did not get any of my money back again.

Q. Had you been drinking? - Oh, no. I came from on board, and my captain he paid me my money at half past eight, and I went to Limehouse to pay two or three pounds for clothes.

Prisoner Burks. He came to me very much in liquor.


I was informed on Sunday morning

that this man had been robbed? I went to the house and there was Peggy Thompson, the mistress of the house, and this Hannah Roper , and this Hannah Roper said, that she saw half a guinea full on the ground, and they took us to find her that robbed the man; but we did not find her then.


I apprehended the prisoner Burke the night following; I searched her, but found no money on her, only a few shillings.

Prisoner Burke. This man came to me quite in liquor, and I was rather in liquor myself; I was sitting at the door, and he came to me and asked me whether I would go to bed with him? I told him I would make the agreement, as it was late at night. I went with him backwards into the room, and he gave me four shillings out of his handkerchief; I gave the woman of the house one shilling for the bed; with that I went to bed with him, and I went to sleep; and I awaked, and he wanted to use me in a very violent manner indeed, which was inexpressible; and he said if I would not, he would kick me out of bed; accordingly he gave me a kick in the small of my back, and I got out of bed in my smock, saving your presence, my lord; and then he said he would have his money back; accordingly he got up and put on his clothes, and went away; and I went to bed in the same room; in the morning I got up and went towards Stepney, and I met him, and he said, for a b-dy whore, he would have his revenge on me. He has been seen by several solks sporting his money about; and he said he had lost six guineas before he came to me, and he was very groggy in liquor, and he wanted to use me very indecent.

Court to Prosecutor. Is it true that you went to bed with this woman? - No.

Prisoner Burke. Before he would take me up, he said he would swear to a mark on my breast, which he saw when I was undrested.


Q. Was you on Saturday seven night at this house, in Gravel-lane, where Mary Burke was? - I was in a house in Gravel-lane.

Q. Was it Peggy Thompson 's house? - I cannot tell whether I was there or not.

Prisoner Burke. This woman said that she saw this man in New Gravel-lane, smoaking his pipe, and giving his money about among the women; she see him spending his money among the women.

Witness. I see him drop two guineas and some halfpence, and two women picked the money up, and called after him, and I don't know whether they gave them to him or not; but that happened as I was going by.


I live in Rosemary-lane; I know nothing of this transaction; an officer had the woman of the house in custody, and discharged her after.

Prisoner Burke. It was the other woman that committed the robbery, and they dragged me out in my shift afterwards, and promised me my share of it, but I never had a farthing.

Mary Burke , GUILTY ,

Of the larceny only (Aged 19.)

Transported for seven years .

Hannah Roper, Not GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before

Mr. Justice LAWRENCE.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-8
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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390. JOHN DOWNES was indicted for stealing, on the 4th of July , six silk handkerchiefs, value 1l. the goods of Thomas Muslin , privately in his shop .


I am a shopkeeper , sell silk handkerchiefs, I live in Whitechapel-road ; I was not at home when the robbery was committed.


I am a shopwoman to the prosecutor; I remember John Downes coming into my master's shop, on Friday the 4th of July, between the hours of twelve and one o'clock, he came in company with another man; the other man asked to look at some silk handkerchiefs; I shewed him some, he staid some time looking at the handkerchiefs, and then he called in John Downes , the prisoner.

Q. Did you know the prisoner before that time? - No. I shewed him the handkerchiefs, and he seemed to approve of them; they then began to measure them, and wanted to know if the handkerchiefs were square, and got me to lay the yard stick on, to know if they were square; in the mean time the prisoner had conveyed away six handkerchiefs; they were laid on the counter; I had shewed them to him.

Q. How soon after did you miss them? - Before they were well out of the shop; I did not see him take them.

Q. What steps did you take when you found the handkerchiefs missing? - I went round the counter and opened the shop door, and called out stop thief! Mr. Weedon, the next door neighbour but one, came to me and asked me what was the matter? I told him, and he pursued them; they were going down Whitechapel as hard as they could run; I told him the man in the blue jacket had got them in his breeches; I saw the projection of them in his breeches before he went out of the shop. Mr. Weedon brought him back to the shop, and when he was brought back, the prisoner took the handkerchiefs out of his breeches, and threw them to the ground; they are in Mr. Weedon's custody.

- WEEDON sworn.

I was called upon to pursue the thieves; I took this man in about a hundred or a hundred and fifty yards from the shop; I did not search him till I brought him back to the house; when I got into the house I did not see him take the handkerchiefs out of his breeches, but I see them on the ground, and I took them up; they are here; they have been in my possission ever since.

Prosecutor. There is my mark on them, my own hand writing; twenty-three shillings is the prime cost of them.

Bingley. These are the handkerchiefs I missed.

- BOWYER sworn.

I know nothing more than assisting in taking the prisoner to the watch-house.

Q. To Bingley. How was you employed when they were taken from the counter? - The other man asked me to measure the handkerchief, to see if it was square, and I took it up in my hand, and held it up by the corners, holding it before me to measure it.

Q. Then that covered there? - It did.

Prisoner. I was going along Whitechapel-road, and I met a man that I used to work with, and he asked me if I would go with him to buy an handkerchief? I

said did not care, I would go with him; and we went to this shop, and he looked at a cotton handkerchief, and he did not approve of it, and we both came out together, and this gentlewoman in the shop said that how we had stole some handkerchiefs; and she had us taken, which there was never nothing of the kind, nor I never had the property in my possession.

The prisoner called one witness who gave him a good character.

GUILTY . Death . (Aged 22.)

Recommended to mercy by the jury considering his youth, and that it might be his first offence.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-9
VerdictNot Guilty

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391. JOHN TILBURY , JAMES CLEMENT , ROBERT GREY , and JAMES ROLFE were indicted for stealing, on the 9th of July , a cloth box coat, value 12s. the goods of Charles Grey .


I am an hackney coachman ; I lost a box cloth coat last Wednesday, at half after three; I missed it in Holborn, near Fetter-lane ; I left it on the box while I went to get my dinner, at the Coach and Horses public house.

Q. When did you miss it? - When I went out again to my coach. I see it again the next day, in the gentleman's hands who apprehended them, Mr. Stapleton; I will swear to the coat by the marks about it, it has a great button and hole near the neck; I had it put on by my mother after I bought the coat, and the lining is tore at the back part in the middle of it.

Q. What time of the day was it you saw it at Mr. Stapleton's? - About ten o'clock in the morning.

Q. Who first saw these men? - Mr. Stapleton.


I am a carpenter. This day week, between three and four o'clock, I was at the bottom of Fetter-lane, and I observed three men running, and a chariot going on, two men on one side of the way and one on the other, and one behind the chariot with the great coat under his arm; the prisoners were the four men; I had the curiosity to follow them, and at the other side of the Bar James Clement got up behind the chariot, and stood on the foot board behind the chariot, where the man was standing with the coat under his arm; this was as they were running; I went as far as Catharine-street, in the Strand, and there they both got down, and went up Catharine-street, and the others followed after.

Q. Who was on the carriage with the coat? - John Tilbury . The man that had the coat went to a coach at the end of Bow-street, and spoke to the coachman or waterman, in a minute a coach came by, and he went after the coachman towards Druly-lane Play house, and the other three went towards Covent Garden, I went to Bow street and got two officers, and they came along with me, and we turned to the left, the way the man went with the coat; and at the corner of a court, almost facing the Play house, we found them all there, and the coat was shifted to another man.

Q. How soon was this after you left them? - In the course of a minute; they were the same men James Clements had got the coat then; with that I seized him, and asked whose coat that was He said a man gave it him to hold. With

that the officers took the others, and we took them to Bow street.

Q. Now as to the other two prisoners, Gray and Rolfe, did you see them in conversation with the other two? - No, I did not, till I found them altogether.

Q. Did they converse when they were altogether? - I did not stand to see; I seized the man that had the coat in the very instant. I enquired for the owner the next morning, and found him on the stand; I gave him the great coat; that is the same great coat.

Mr. Knapp. Tilbury and Clements were the only persons that had any thing to do with the great coat at all? - Yes.

Prisoner Tilbury. The young man picked up the coat, and said he would look and see if he could find out the owner.

Prisoner Clements. I picked the coat up in Fetter-lane.

Clement called one witness to his character.

All four not GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-10
VerdictNot Guilty > no evidence

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392. SARAH BOSS was indicted for receiving, on the 22d of May , a bed ticken, value 3s. a canvas apron, value 1s. being a parcel of goods stolen by David Humphries, knowing them to have been stolen .

No Evidence.


16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-11

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393. THOMAS DOYLE was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of June , two silver table spoons, value 1l. 10s. the goods of Henry Cooper .


I am an attorney ; these spoons were taken out of my parlour, in the dwelling house; the prisoner was quite a stranger; they were taken on the first of June, Saturday, about eight o'clock in the morning; my house is in Castle-street, Holborn; I did not see the prisoner take them, I saw them the day before, in the knife case. I have not seen them since at all; they have never been found.

Q. Why do you charge the prisoner with taking these spoons? - My servant came up to me and brought a note that a gentleman had wrote below stairs, and waited for an answer; I immediately got up and looked at the note, and read it; it purported that Mr. Orchard, of Hatton Garden, wanted to see me about some particular business, and wanted me to call about ten o'clock. I immediately sent word down, by my servant, with my compliments to Mr. Orchard, and I would wait on him. In two minutes, or one it might be, my servant comes up again, and says, sir, the person seems to have turned out to be a thief. About a sortnight after that I was sent for up to Bow-street, I don't recollect the day exactly; my servant swore to the prisoner's person; that is all I know about it.

Q. When the prisoner came to Bow-street was he in the same dress he is in now? - O no, by no means; he had on a green coat then.


I am in the service of Mr. Cooper; I am very positive that is the man that came the 1st of June; I knew him the first time I saw him at Bow-street. He

came about eight o'clock in the morning, as high as I can tell.

Q. Did he appear a sailor then? - No, he had a green coat on; he asked if he could speak to Mr. Cooper? I answered him no. He asked how long it might be first? I answered him perhaps in the course of half an hour. He said, he could not wait, but he must have an immediate answer, that he would leave a note, if I would let him have some pen, ink, and paper; which I granted him; I was in the parlour with him while he wrote the note; I never left the parlour till I took the note to my master; when I left the parlour the spoons were in the case, on the side board, open; I only left him while my master gave me an answer.

Q. Did you find the prisoner when you came down? - No. Immediately I found the knife case that I had left open was shut, and when I opened it a pair of table spoons were gone, marked H. T.C. the name of my master and mistress, and I had left the front door fast, and I went and looked at the door, and found it pulled too, but not fast.

Q. Have you ever seen the spoons since? - No, never.

Q. And they have never been found? - Not to my knowledge. This is the note he wrote.(The note produced.)

- ORCHARD sworn.

Q. Did you ever send that note to Mr. Cooper, the attorney? - No.

Q. Do you know him? are you acquainted with him? - Yes, perfectly acquainted.

Prisoner. I cannot pretend to plead innocence while the charge is made so plain before me, I only recommend myself to mercy, to you and the jury.


See No. 436 following.

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-12
SentenceCorporal > public whipping; Miscellaneous > fine

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394. JAMES GRIFFIN was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of July , a cake of bees wax, weighing nine pounds, value 15s. the goods of Thomas Burn .

Indicted in a Second COUNT, laying it to be the property of Thomas Knight and Joseph Bickham .

In a Third COUNT, laying it to be the property of persons unknown.(The indictment opened by Mr. Knowlys, and the case by Mr. Fielding.)


I am a weigher, belonging to the customs; I was on Galley Key , on Thursday the 10th of July last, about the hours of eleven or twelve o'clock in the day; there were twenty-four casks of wax came up and landed at Galley Key, out of the ship, Ellis, from New York; the last cask was without a head, the head was broke out some how or other; with that when it came on land, in less than five minutes after that, I saw the prisoner with a cake of wax in his hand; he put it in his apron, and then walked away to go up the gateway; with that I went to him and collared him, and asked him what he was going to do with that? he gave me no answer, but struggled very hard to get away, and with the struggle the bees wax fell on the ground out of his apron; I secured him, and charged Mr. Hunter, the constable, with him. The bees wax is here; I gave it to Mr. Hunter; I put my mark on it; it is worth one shilling and eleven-pence per pound; here is nine pounds.

Jury. Was he going up the gateway when you stopped him? - Yes, he was.

Court. You see him take it out of the cask? - No, I did not see him take it out, but I see it in his hand.


I am an agent for Mr. Burn; it is his property, and I have the care of it.

Prisoner. Thursday morning I was coming along the Keys from Brewer's Key, coming along across Galley Key, about twelve o'clock in the morning, coming towards the Custom House, and this gentleman came and catched hold of me by the collar, and this piece of bees wax was laying down there by the side of me, and he said I dropped it, and I should either go on board a Tender, or he would take me to the Compter; and I said I would go to the Compter; and he took me directly.

GUILTY . (Aged 15.)

Publickly whipped in Thames-street , and fined 1s.

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-13
VerdictNot Guilty

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395. CHARLES BAILEY was indicted for stealing, on the 9th of July , six ivory handle table knives and forks, value 5s. six ditto desert knives and forks, value 5s. a prince's metal candlestick, value 3s. a brass extinguisher, value 1s. six brass cloak pins, value 5d. and thirty pounds in monies numbered ; the goods and monies of Ebenezer Johnson .


I am an ironmonger in Bishopsgate-street . The prisoner had been a porter to me near four years come October, and I never suspected his honesty till the 10th of July; he was a servant out of the house. I had missed property to a very considerable amount, from the till; I had him apprehended by the constable, in consequence of suspicion, and I requested the constable to examine him. I was present when he was examined.

Q. Was he apprehended in your own house? - Yes; I was talking to him when the constable came in, and I gave charge of him; indeed I was charging him with the same when the constable came in. The principal reason that I had him examined for, was, to see if he had the key of the till about him; and he said, we need not examine him, for he had thrown it over the house that morning. I have since received some of the goods from two witnesses who are here.

Mr. Alby At the time you asked the prisoner about this key, you gave him to understand, if he told you what became of it, you would not proceed any further against him? - I don't know that I said any such thing.

Q. You had repeatedly asked him to confess before he said any thing about that key? - I never asked him to consess.

Court. As a porter was he ever entrusted with the key of the till? - Never to my knowledge.


The things I had were given me by Charles Bailey , a dozen knives and forks, about two months ago; I don't know exactly the time, and I received some cloak screws; he brought ten to me, and I gave some to the young woman that lived with me; he brought them the Sunday after he brought the knives and forks, and at the same time he brought me a candlestick, and he brought two cork screws.

Q. Should you know these things again if you was to see them? - Yes; I took them to Mr. Johnson's.

Mr. Alby. What are you? - I am a mantua-maker and stay maker by trade.

Q. Are you a married woman? - No.

Q. Have you ever lived with any body as a married woman? - No.

Q. Have you ever lived with the prisoner at the bar? - No; I have been acquainted with him.

Q. Did you know the prisoner was a married man? - Not till this week.

Q. Then you did not make any clothes for his wife, or family, or children? - No.

Q. Will you be kind enough to explain how you was acquainted with him? - I was at the Apollo Gardens one Sunday evening, and got acquainted with him there.

Q. You went into his company? - I did by accident.

Q. And have you spent many evenings with him by accident? - Three or four.

Q. Do you know a man of the name of Millwood? - Never.

Q. Never in any place? - No.


Q. Do you know any thing of the property of Mr. Johnson? - I know no more than what he gave to Mrs. Clarke. We are both in the same situation of life, we both of us lived in one lodgings together while I knew him.

Q. What do you mean by the same way of life? - We are both of the same trade, mantua-makers and stay-makers, what we cannot get by that we go into company.

Q. What goods do you know of Mr. Johnson's that were brought to Mrs. Clarke's? - Six large handled knives and forks, and six small ones, six cloak pins, and a candlestick, that was stole. They were delivered back to Mr. Johnson in his own house; I gave them to him myself. Charles Bailey gave them to me and Miss Clarke, for our own use.

Q. Should you know them again? - I think I should; one is in a blue paper, and the other in a brown one.

Mr. Alby. You say you lived with the last witness? - I lived with Joseph Millwood a month.

Q. You and the other girl are in the same way of life? - Yes.

Q. What did you give a dozen for them knives and forks? - We did not give him any thing; he gave them to us as unfortunate women.

- SAPWELL sworn.

I am a constable of Cheap Ward; I know nothing more than taking charge of the prisoner; Mr. Johnson gave me charge.


I produce six table knives and forks, and five desert knives and six forks, six cloak pins, a candlestick, and an extinguisher; I got them at Mr. Johnson's; Mr. Johnson's servant, Mr. Wild delivered them to me; I have kept them ever since; they were delivered to me on Thursday.

Johnson. That was the day after they were brought to my house.


I am the servant to Mr. Johnson; I received the parcel of Mrs. Clarke, three desert knives and forks, and three table knives and forks; I delivered them to Clitherow myself, till then they were kept locked up in a paper; I am sure it was out of the same paper, and the same things that I took in. I delivered all the things to Mr. Clitherow; I got the things from Mr. Johnson.

Court to Johnson. Where did you get the other articles that he has spoke of? - I received them from the lodgings of Miss Fleming, from herself. I should not like to swear to them myself, although I have not the least doubt about them.

Wild. They perfectly agree with others that we have in the house, every article.

Q. Will you swear that these particular articles were missing? - I cannot say that I missed them at the time.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-14
VerdictNot Guilty

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396. ROBERT WAGGONER was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of June , a clasp knife, value 4d. and one pound thirteen shillings and nine-pence halfpenny in monies ; the goods and monies of Thomas Gough .


The prisoner was a servant of mine; I live in Pudding-lane ; I am an orange merchant ; he lived with me only four or five days; I had an extraordinary good character with him, from a respectable man whom he had served. On the 24th of June, in the morning, I called him up, and he went down stairs, and after he had been down a few minutes, I heard a great fall, which was the till, and being full it made a great noise; I immediately got up and went down and found the boy was gone, he had absconded, left the shop shut up, and pulled to the door after him; I opened the shop myself and went in pursuit of him; I went to his father and mother's in Oxford street; but he had not been there; accordingly I went to Marlborough-street, and went in search of him with an officer; at last we found him in St. James's Park, in the grass or the Parade, where they were mounting guard, with the money; we found the money in his hat, halfpence to the amount of one pound thirteen shillings and nine-pence halfpenny, and a clasp knite.

Q. How do you know these halfpence are your's? - I cannot swear to them.

Q. Do you know what quantity were in your till? - I do not.

Q. Can you swear to that clasp knife being your's? - I think I can; I had a a knife of that sort; it is a remarkable knife, being a French knife; two or three days before it lay about the kitchen. I understand he comes of a very good family, and only fifteen years of age; I recommend him to mercy; I hope you will consider that.


I took him in the Park, and searched him, and found these halfpence and this knife on him.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-15
VerdictNot Guilty

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397. WILLIAM COLEMAN was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of July , a linen handkerchief, value 4d. the goods of James Hebbard .


I am a breeches maker ; I felt the prisoner take the handkerchief from my pocket, on Snow-hill , it was about half past ten at night, the 14th of this month; I was going into the City; I did not see him. I felt him and followed him immediately, and took him with the watchman.


I am a watchman. The gentleman called out to me for assistance, for the watch, and I picked up the handkerchief,

and here it is; I picked it up at the threshold of the door where he stopped the prisoner; he had got fast hold of him when I came up to him; it never has been out of my possession since.

Q. Did he charge the prisoner with any thing? - Nothing more than picking his pocket of an handkerchief.

Q. Did the prisoner say any thing? - Not a word, good, bad, or indifferent.

- SANDERS sworn.

I know nothing further then I heard the rattles go, and I stopped the prisoner.

Prosecutor. I lost this handkerchief out of my pocket, and I saw him throw it down; and felt it taken out of my pocket.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-16
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence
SentenceCorporal > public whipping; Miscellaneous > fine

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398. JOHN STANSFIELD was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling house of William Williams , about the hour of five in the afternoon, on the 4th of June , and feloniously stealing therein, two men's cloth coats, value 4s. a man's callimanco waistcoat, value 1s. a pair of corderoy breeches, value 1s. a man's hat, value 10d. the goods of John Morgans .


I am a porter . When this happened I was in no place; I lodged at Mr. Williams, in Ship-yard, in the parish of St. Clement's Dane , at that time. On the 4th of June, I went out in the morning about one o'clock, and did not return again till about eight in the afternoon, when I found my room door open, and the staple on the floor; I had left it locked; to all appearance it had been broke open, and I found these things inserted in the indictment taken from the room: when I went out in the morning some were left in the chair, and some on the side of the bed. I missed likewise a great coat, which justice Addington thought proper to put it by; I found them again in the possession of the prisoner at the bar, in Dove-court, in Gray's Inn-lane; I got the constable, and went after him the next day, and found the things, inserted in the indictment, in his apartment, in a box; he was there at that time; he made a denial in the first place, that he did not know any thing about them, and at last he produced the property. The things are here; the constable has got them.

Q. Did any body lodge in that room besides him? - No, only him and his wife, as he called the woman.

Q. What is this Williams? - He keeps a chandler's shop , he is a writer himself.

Q. Had you seen the prisoner at Williams's house that morning? - No, I had never seen him to my knowledge.

Q. Was the box locked that had these clothes? - To the best of my recollection the key was in the box, but it was not locked; he brought out the hat in the first place, and then he brought out the clothes; he made several excuses; he said, he hoped we would not take the advantage of him, and made some flight excuse.

Mr. Knowlys. What is your name? - John Morgans.

Q. You went to this prisoner's house and lodgings, did not you go there in consequence of some direction that he had left at Williams's house, that he had found some things, and there they were when the owner pleased to call for them? - It was not made known to me if it was so.

Q. Williams keeps a common lodgings, does not he? - He keeps a chandler's shop, and a great many lodgers in the house.

Q. You say he himself opened the box and produced the things? - Yes, he did.

Court. Was any body left in Williams's house when you went out in the morning? - Yes, Mrs. Williams was in the house.


My husband keeps this house in Shipyard, where Morgans lodged. On the 4th of June the prisoner came in along with one Mrs. Sparrow, his aunt, who was a lodger in the house, and I saw him go in and out three or four times in the day, I took no notice of him, as he was an acquaintance of Mr. Sparrow's; about four or five o'clock I was going up to make Mr. Morgans's bed, and Mr. Sparrow and the prisoner met me on the stairs, and the prisoner went into Mr. Sparrow's room, and I went into Mr. Morgans's room.

Q. How did you find Mr. Morgans's room? - Locked.

Q. How long did you stay there? - I stayed no longer till I made his bed, and done every thing necessary in his room; when I had done so, I came out and locked the door, and pushed it with my hand to see if it was locked, and the prisoner was in Mr. Sparrow's room at the same time; this was between four and five; about an hour after Mr. Sparrow came down, and says, Mrs. Williams, can you change me a guinea? No, says I, I cannot, but I will go up to the Fountain and get it changed. He said, no, it did not signify, if I could lend him a shilling. I told him, yes, I could lend him a shilling, but silver was very scarce, I would let him have six-pence and sixpenny worth of halfpence. A little time after that Mr. Sparrow went out, and his wife went out very soon after, and I thought to myself it must be some intimate acquaintance of theirs, that they would leave him up stairs; and in about ten minutes, or a quarter of an hour after, I saw the prisoner go through the passage with a bundle in his hand, but I said nothing to him, nor he to me; this was about six o'clock in the evening. Mr. Morgans came home about eight or nine o'clock, and went to go to his room, and found his door open.

Mr. Knowlys. This young man you had seen come to his uncle and aunt before? - No, never before this day, nor I did not know who he was till then.

Q. How many lodgers have you? - Not a great many; three on one floor, and four on another.


The prisoner at the bar was a lodger in my house, and I know the goods were found there.

Mr. Knowlys. How long had he lodged with you? - About five or six weeks.

Court. Did any body lodge along with him? - Yes, there was a young woman lodged along with him and a young child.


I am a constable; I found these things in the apartment which the prisoner was in, in Dove-court, No.4. When we went into the prisoner's room, the prosecutor was not with me at first; he was pulling off his breeches; I called him by his name, Mr. Stanfield, says I, what have you done with the things that you took from the next room to where your uncle lives? He said he had not got any of them. I said, have you pledged the things, let me search your pockets; and I did so, and found nothing at all; and then he says, I hope you will take no

particular advantage of me, and I will tell you where the goods are; they are here in a box.

Q. Had you made him any promise? - I told him there would be no particular advantage taken of him; when he found that, he went and took the things out; he said he would be very glad if I would let the business be made up. I told him I could not make it up, I could not compound felony, he must come along with me. These are the things I took out of the box.

Prosecutor. These are the things I left in my room.

Prisoner. I leave it to my counsel.

The prisoner called Mrs. Sparrow, who gave him a good character.

GUILTY. Of stealing the goods in the dwelling house, but not of the house breaking .

(Aged 19.)

Publickly Whipped and fined 1s .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice LAWRENCE.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-17
VerdictNot Guilty

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399. THOMAS PAYNE and HENRY PITSHOLD were indicted for stealing, on the 2d of June , forty-eight guineas, four half guineas, five crowns, and thirty-eight half crowns, and sixty shillings; the monies of John Lever , in his dwelling house .(The case opened by Mr. Knapp)


I live in the Haberdashers Alms houses, in Hoxton ; I have a house there. On the 2d of June, I had fifty guineas in gold, and ten pounds in silver; I had placed it in a room that I kept locked, in a drawer, and had the key in my pocket, and the door was shut when I went out at ten o'clock in the morning; I returned again to my house about five minutes after twelve; but I did not miss the money till I returned from my dinner near one; I then went up to my room, and found the door broke open, and my money gone.

Q. Did you leave your daughter in the house when you first went out? - Yes; her name is Ann Warren.

Q. Do you know the prisoner Payne? - No, I don't know any thing of him.

Mr. Knowlys. You have two daughters? - Yes.

Q. One of them, I believe, you had party forbid the house? - No, never did; they are always welcome.


I am the daughter. On the 2d of June, my father went out about ten; after he went out Pitshold came and knocked at the door; my father had locked the front door and taken the key with him; I looked through the key hole and saw him perfectly; this was almost immediately after my father was gone, I should imagine he could hardly have got out of the buildings; I spoke to him through the key hole, told him my father had gone out and taken the key with him, and desired him to go round to the back door, and I would go and speak to him. Payne and Pitshold came to me before my father went out, to the front door; I see them both and spoke to them, they came to invite me to go a walking with them; and I rather objected to it; but they insisted on it in an agreeable manner; and I desired them to wait for me about a quarter of an hour, and then I would go; they agreed to go to the public house close to the Hospital, in Pitfield street, and there they were to

wait for my coming. Immediately after my father was gone Pitshold came back to me to the front door, and I desired him to go round to the back door; when I opened the back door I asked him where his brother was? Which was Payne; he said he had left his brother waiting at the public house, at the Queen's Head I understood; I told him I was not quite ready. I look upon it at the time I went out it was near eleven o'clock; it was about half an hour after my father had left the house or better.

Q. When you went out did you lock the door? - Yes, I am perfectly sure of that, and put the key into my left hand pocket. When we came out instead of turning to the right, the way to the Queen's Head, he turned to the left hand; then I observed to Pitshold, what do you go that way for? He said, they had had a pint of porter at the Queen's Head and they did not like it, and he had sent Payne on to the White Swan; we went to the White Swan, Payne was not there; I look upon it we stayed there an hour or an hour and a half, waiting for Payne; he came at last, in about an hour or an hour an I a half; when Payne came in he asked whether we had any thing to drink? Pitshold answered we had had something; Payne complained that he was sick; and we took a walk altogether. I returned back to the Hospital the next morning.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-18
VerdictNot Guilty

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400. MARY ROGERS was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of June , a guinea and a halfpenny ; the monies of John Davy .

JOHN DAVY sworn.

I am a blacksmith ; I live at No. 1, Church lane, Whitechapel. On the 20th of June, at night, I was going down White's-yard, I saw Mary Rogers ; she asked me if I would give her any thing to drink; accordingly at first I denied, afterwards I said I did not care; we went into the Three Cups, in White's-yard; I called for a pint of ale, and paid for it; then we had another pint of ale, accordingly after we drank it we went out of the house; this gentlewoman, Mary Rogers , went into a person's house close by, which I thought was the place where she lived. When she came in there she asked the person to go backwards, either into the yard or else any where, where she could speak to her; accordingly the woman said there was no place but the one pair of stairs where they went, and I went up, and I gave a shilling for some gin, and the other woman went out for some, and she drank a little, and I drank a little, and another woman drank; I believe there was but a quartern brought; in the mean time Mary Rogers wanted me to give her some money; I told her I had no money but that one shilling. She said she saw me with six or seven shillings, and she wanted to run her hand into my waistcoat pocket; so at last I said, when I found her resolute, as that I had got but one guinea and a penny in my pocket; says she, let me have the guinea, and I will go and change it, and bring you twenty shillings good. I told her that I would not change it for her nor no other woman in England. I directly puts it into my breeches pocket, my fob as I thought; but instead of putting the guinea into my pocket, I put a halfpenny in, I drawed a halfpenny out of my waistcoat pocket and left the guinea in my pocket; accordingly she puts her hand into my pocket and takes this guinea and a halfpenny out; I thought it had been only a penny that

she had got. I immediately turns down stairs and goes to the door, and goes about ten yards from the door, and puts my hand into my pocket to see what she had got, and I found it was the guinea along with the halfpenny; I immediately returned into the house again directly; and as soon as I returned into the house I saw her running into the necessary, and I followed her, and pulled her fast by the arm, and said, Mrs. Rogers, you have got the guinea that you took out of my pocket instead of the halfpenny; says I, will you give it me again? She denied having it some time; at last she told me if I would go to a public house and call for half a pint of rum I should find my guinea again. I went out of the house directly to go to this house, but she did not come; as soon as ever I came out of the house she tried to run away up into Rosemary-lane, and there I took her and detained her till I sent for an officer, and I had her taken into custody.

Q. Did you ever find the guinea? - No.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice LAWRENCE.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-19
VerdictNot Guilty

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401. JAMES BRYAN was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of July , a check linen apron, value 1s. 6d. the goods of Mary Orange , widow .


Q. Do you know James Bryant? - Yes; he is a shoe-maker ; he came to our house between eleven and twelve o'clock in the forenoon last Saturday (I keep a public house ) he asked me which was the way to the yard; and I shewed him out to the back door(I live at the Black Bull, in Whitechapel road ) he was gone between two and three minutes; our parlour window looks into the yard; as he was coming out of the yard my aunt see him coming, and she heard him stop in the passage, and opened the parlour window, and see him at the pot cupboard, and she followed him out to the street door, and she see him put some thing in his breeches, and she said, this man has got some thing, I believe it is pots; with that her son came by and listed up his apron, and I saw the coloured apron under his apron; it had hung over the shutter that stands by the pot cupboard; I saw it not a minute before he was in the yard, I had hung it over the shutters myself; the apron is here.


I pulled up the man's apron, and I saw this apron in his breeches; he said it stuck to him as he came from the passage.

Orange. This is my apron, I made it myself.

Prisoner. I happened Saturday morning to be walking to Whitechapel, and I stopped at this house, where I never was before, and I asked this young woman which was the nearest-way to the necessary; and she conveyed me backwards; coming out I saw the apron laying and took it up, not knowing who it belonged to; this gentlewoman's aunt was in the parlour or kitchen; I turned round and says, I have got an apron, if it is your's, take it. Says she, you must stop, I must send for a constable; says she, I command these two men to stop that man. Says I, I will stop, and I will thank you for a pint of porter: Says she, I will draw none. I stopped till the constable came, and he asked me what I meant to do about this affair? I said

I did not know; Says he, will you go for a soldier? I said, I had no objection to serve his majesty; and he takes me before a justice, and I was committed.

Court to Bowyer. Did he hold this apron openly and publickly so that any body might see it, or was it concealed? - It was concealed in the back part of his breeches; his breeches were not buttoned when I saw him, he could not button them with the apron; he said the apron stuck to him.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-20
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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402. JOHN DENHAM was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling house of William Dodson , about the hour of six in the forenoon, on the 21st of June , the said William Dodson , and others, of his family, being therein, and feloniously stealing therein, two mens linen shirts, value 10s. a silk handkerchief, value 4s. a linen pocket handkerchief, value 6d. three muslin neck handkerchiefs, value 2s. eight childs linen caps, value 4s. a muslin apron, value 6d. and a child's callico frock, value 2s. his property .

The witness examined separate.


I live in King-street, Golden-square, in the parish of St. James's . On the 21st of June, in the morning, about six o'clock, my wife came up and told me that she was robbed, and I went out, and I found the publican was in quest of a man that came out of the house with a bundle in his apron.

Q. How was the robbery committed? - In at the back parlour window; I found the window open, and these things were found in the yard; the window was open out wardly, it opened that way, it was not broke nor forced; I had been in that room that morning to light a fire there.

Q. How was the window at that time? - I don't know, because I had no business at the window.

Q. Had you left any part of the property in that room? - Yes; I found the things that were in St. James's watch-house, (the prisoner was there) in the

course of half an hour after I was alarmed.


I am the wife of William Dodson, the prosecutor. On the 24th of June, I heard somebody going along the passage very softly, I was in the front parlour; it was a few minutes past six in the morning.

Q. Had you been in the back parlour that morning? - No, I did not hear him go up stairs, and I listened, and I went to look for the clothes that my nurse had told me, she had hung out in the yard the night before, (I had lain in three weeks,) and I went and looked into the yard, and saw the window was open, and I returned, and I heard somebody go from the yard to the street door, and I turned my head and saw a dish of clothes were empty; while I was in the back parlour I heard the steps of a person returning from the yard towards the street door; I then opened the front parlour, and turned my head towards the yard, and saw the dish of clothes empty, and turning my head the other way I saw the prisoner with something in his apron. The yard and passage is adjoining.

Q. When had you seen that linen with the dish before? - I left it about nine o'clock the over night, in the back parlour.

Q. Whereabouts was the prisoner when you saw him? - He was, I suppose, about two yards from me, in the passage, I perceived he had got something in his apron; I told him he was a thief, and he said, ma'am, I have either taken or got; I don't know which was the expression, and then he ran away.

Q. Had you ever seen the prisoner before? - Not to my knowledge. I called to a neighbour and told him that I was robbed, and he pursued him, but did not take him, but he gave the alarm and he was taken, and I have seen the linen since, part of it I had in my own possession; here is one man's shirt, a man's night cap, a child's tippet, a handkerchief, a child's shirt, eight child's caps, a must a apron, and a child's callico frock. All these things were in the dish the night before; I received them at the justice's in Marlborough street.


I am watch house keeper of St. James's parish. On the morning of the 21st of June, the prisoner was brought into the watch house by two butchers, Goodwin and Mason, about half past six in the forenoon; I searched him, and found on him this silk handkerchief, in his left hand coat pocket; the people that brought him in, brought in the other things.

Prosecutrix. I know the handkerchief to be mine, it laid on a basket close to the dish.

Prisoner to Prosecutor. Do you know that handkerchief? - Yes; there is R. A. on it, 17.

Court. How came it to have that mark on it? - The Rev. Mr. Andrews, of Greathill, in Middlesex, made me a present of the handkerchief.

Prisoner. Mr. Dodson, who was that man that came with you to the watch-house when I was confined? - Nobody.

Q. Do not you recollect a man coming in to day to me, and you told me I wanted a silk handkerchief, but you would give me a bit of hemp.

Prisoner. There was a man came with him, I don't know who the man is, I rather thought it was his brother, and he said to him, you have got my handkerchief in your pocket; the man that came to me owned the handkerchief, and he said it was his property.

Court to Prosecutrix. How long had your husband had that handkerchief? -

I cannot say exactly, it is some months since.

- BURDEN sworn.

I saw the young man, the prisoner at the bar, come out of the house of Mr. Dodson's with something in his apron, I was in my own house, it was about a quarter after six; I gave the alarm; I did not see the property taken from him, he ran away, and I ran after him, and called stop thief! I did not see him stopped; I live right opposite the prosecutor.

Prisoner. You say you live right opposite the house; why did not you stop me when I came out of the house? - Because I did not know till Mrs. Dodson came out in her shift, and gave the alarm.


I was standing at Carnaby Market, the 21st of June, about six o'clock, I heard somebody cry stop thief! the prisoner ran through the market; I followed him, and he turned into a court, and crossed Marlborough-court, and went into a passage; I came up to him, and asked him what he had in his apron? He gave me no answer; I looked into his apron and saw some linen; I asked him where he got it from? he made answer, he picked it up in the street; I got a blue apron of a lady that lives in our market, to tie up the property in; I tied it up and took it down to the watch house; a watchman took the prisoner to the watch house; I delivered the linen into Mr. Gutchley's hands.

- GUTCHLEY sworn.

I tied up the things and carried it to the justice's in Marlborough street, the next day, and this shirt, and two handkerchiefs, he tied up in a sheet of paper and sealed it, and delivered it to me, and the rest of the things he gave to Mrs. Dodson to carry home to dry, because they were so wet, he was afraid they would be spoiled.

Mrs. Dodson. The shirt is my husband's by the mark W. D. and the linen handkerchief R. D. they were in the dish.

Prisoner. The prosecutors they did not detain me at first without first settling who would be in it; that were the expressions they used, I don't know their meaning. I found these things at the corner of Marlborough-street; I was going about six o'clock in the morning to get a clean shirt of my aunt, who lives in Cranbourn Market; on going to the corner of Marlborough-street I saw that very silk handkerchief with the bundle tied up in it; I opened it to see what it was, and I put the things into my apron, and going on, this gentleman stopped me. I have no witness, I did not with my friends to know my distress.

GUILTY, Of stealing the goods, but not breaking and entering the dwelling house .(Aged 20.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice LAWRENCE.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-21
VerdictNot Guilty

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403. WILLIAM CHARLES was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of July , two womens cotton gowns, value 1l. a muslin apron, value 2s. a muslin handkerchief, value 1s. the goods of Robert Sythe .


I am the wife of Robert Sythe. On Sunday evening last, about half past nine o'clock, I lost the things in the indictment, about half past two, the prisoner came into my shop for a pint of small beer, (I keep a chandler's shop, in Cheese-court, Oxford-street, Mary-le-bone ) I served him the pint of small beer I had seen him several times before about five or six months ago; this cotton gown hung behind the door in the afternoon; I went out in the afternoon and came home about half past nine, when he came in again for some small beer, and he drove on to the end of the counter, and two gowns hung on a nail in the back parlour; my mother came out of the parlour and said, child, I am going to bed; she took the candle out of the parlour with her; so this lad he stood at the end of the counter and he wanted to draw the small beer himself; I directly went to serve him; he did not stay to drink the the small beer, but he immediately went out; my mother took the candle with her, and left the room in the dark, and the parlour door was on the latch, and nobody in it. He left the halfpenny on the counter; as soon as he went out, a woman in the shop went round and see my parlour door open, and I went and see the property gone; I missed all the articles in the indictment. I found the boy afterwards as the watchman was crying the hour of ten; the watchman took him to the public house; he is here. I did not find any property on him; but he was seen with a bundle.

MARY KING sworn.

I know Mrs. Sythe; I was not in the shop, I heard the outcry of the things being lost, about half past nine on Sunday evening, I went down immediately, and we went to the Wheatsheaf, and saw the prisoner in Pall-Mall Buildings, and charged the watchman with him. I see him in that house first through the window.

Q. How far is that house from this woman's? - No great ways. Mrs. Sythe she charged him with the robbery.

Q. Did you find the things? - No; he said, so help me Jesus Christ I never was in the court the whole day; and the prosecutor made answer, you rascal, did not I draw you the small beer? he said, yes, and I paid you for it.


I was in the shop, about half past nine, when the boy was in, I was sitting there in the house along with my landlady; I lodge in the house, and this boy came in for a halfpenny worth of small beer, and he went to the end of the counter to take the pint pot down; I made answer and said, that is not the halfpenny pot: says he, what is that to you? He did this with intent to look into the parlour, I suppose, I see him looking; with that Mrs. Sythe's mother, Mrs. Pearce, went up with the child to bed; immediately as he see this woman come out of the back parlour door, he left his small beer and went out.

Q. You did not see him go out with the property? - No, I did not.

Q. Was it possible for any body else to have gone in without your knowledge? - Not to my knowledge; and Mrs-Pearce had but that minute gone out of it; we suppose that he went round the passage way into the back parlour door.

Prisoner. I was in the shop that day about half past two, with another boy, for a pint of small beer, and we drank the beer and gave her a penny for it, and had a farthing. In the evening I went again, and asked for a halfpenny worth

of small beer, and drank about half of it, and away I came out. I have got no witness here, but I could make a witness of the boy that was with me about half past two; she knows where to find the boy.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before


16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-22

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404. JOHN MARSH was indicted for stealing, on the 4th of June , a cloth coat, value 7s. 6d. a callico gown, value 3s. a pair of leather breeches, value 5s. a silk waistcoat, value 3s. two callico gowns, value 1l. and a silk petticoat, value 10s. the goods of William Jarvis .


I am a silk dyer ; I lost the things from my dwelling house, Warwick-street, Golden-square ; the prisoner at the bar was my servant , it was the 4th of last month when I first discovered my loss; he did not come to his usual employ to work, he had not been near me since Saturday, when I paid him his wages; his employ was in the callendering line. By the different customers enquiring for the goods repeatedly, and the prisoner at the bar not coming to his usual employ, and the customers expressing that they delivered the goods into the hands of the prisoner, I suspected the prisoner to be the offender. I went in search of the prisoner in order to enquire about the goods; I found him in the Seven Dials, on the 7th of June, with the officer Manning; we immediately took the prisoner to the first public house, which was the corner house, we searched the prisoner and found various duplicates, the officer has them. I asked the prisoner whether these duplicates I refer to were my property or not? He said they were.

Q. Had you promised him any favour? - By no means.

Q. Had you said it would be better for him? - By no means. I delivered him into the hands of the officer, and he was committed. The property is deposited in the hands of the pawnbrokers, who are present.


I am a pawnbroker; I produce a cotton gown, it may be called callico, a man's coat, and a man's waistcoat; the waistcoat came in the 19th of May, and the coat and gown on the 30th. I am sure I took them in of the prisoner; I wrote the duplicates myself.


I am servant to James Hall; I produce two callico gowns pawned by the prisoner, on Saturday, the 31st of May in the evening; I gave him a duplicate, it is my own hand writing.

Prisoner. This is a piece of business I am unacquainted with; I leave it to the mercy of the court; it is the first time that ever I was guilty of any thing of the kind.


I have got the duplicates that I found on the prisoner, at the public house; when I went with the prisoner, he did not deny it, but the duplicates I found on him was belonging to property, which he took from Mr. Jarvis.

Court to Prosecutor. Was he your servant on the 19th and 31st of May? - He was. On the Saturday before the 4th of June, I paid him, and he never came to me afterwards. I can say these things are mine with propriety, they are

all mine; they have been through my hands repeatedly.

GUILTY . (Aged 23.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before


16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-23

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405. ELEANER PARPAY was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of June , a silk cloak, value 10s. the goods of John Boggests .


I am a servant to one Mr. Lovet, Palmstreet, Bartlet-square; I was robbed of a silk cloak the 8th of June, one Sunday about eleven o'clock at night, my wife and I were going home; in the middle of St. John's-street, Bartlet-square , the prisoner at the bar ran against my wife, and untied the string of her cloak, and then she went behind her, and before my wife could tie it again, she took it off her back, and she shot by into Hertford-street; my wife ran after her cloak, and she and my wife had a struggle.

Q. Did you see her take the cloak off your wife? - I did.

Q. Did you see the cloak on her when she was stopped? - I did. They were both down when I came up, and I picked them both up, and I asked her for the cloak, and she said she had not got it, and I pushed her down, and told her she had got it, and the watchman he came up, and then I found the cloak under her apron; then I detained her; I never see her before to my knowledge.


I am the wife. The prisoner is the woman that robbed me of my cloak, it was on Sunday evening, the 8th of June, in John-street; the woman never spoke, but pushed against me, and untied my cloak, and she went a little bit behind me, and before ever I had time to tie my cloak, she came and took it off, and past by me, and ran away into Hertford-street; when I came up to her and asked her for my cloak, she said she had not got it, and I could not see it about her; then I told her I would not leave her till she gave it me, and she took and knocked me down in the street, in that space of time my husband came up, and took and gave her a shove down into the road, and took, and put her apron on one side, and there he found the cloak; when the watch came she charged him with my husband, and said, he had taken a new cloak from her, and the watchman took us all three to the watch-house.

Jury. What part of John-street was it? - Facing the front of the Chapel.

Q. What time was it? - A little after eleven o'clock at night.


I am a watchman of St. George's, Hanover-square; I was in Hertford-street, May Fair. As I was calling half past eleven o'clock I heard a noise, I went up and see this man pushing the woman, the prisoner at the bar, down; I asked him the reason? He said, she had got his wife's cloak. As soon as the prisoner missed the cloak from under her, she said, stop that man, for he has got my new cloak; he was willing to go to the watch-house. I asked her then where she came from? and she told me, and said, she was a house keeper; and I took them all to the watch-house; I asked her it she kept a house for any body? She said, no, she kept the house.

I saw the prisoner fall when I was about ten yards off. The cloak I took to the watch-house.

Q. Do you know that cloak again that you took to the watch-house? - Yes, I know the make and case of it.


I am an officer belonging to Marlborough-street. When the prisoner was brought in the morning, the watchman brought this cloak; the magistrate directed me to take it into possession.

Gabbage. This is the cloak that I took to the watch-house.

Prosecutrix. This is my cloak; I know it by the cape, and I have the woman here that bought the lace for it.

Q. Was you sober at the time? - I had been drinking nothing at all.

Q. To Prosecutor. Was you sober? - I was not quite so sober as I should be; my wife was.

Prisoner to Gabbage. Was the woman sober? - She seemed to be sober.


I am a shoe-maker; I know this to be the cloak belonging to this woman, the prosecutrix; she had it just that day sort-night that she was robbed of it; I fetched it from the milliner's for her, and bought the edging for it; I know it by the gauze I beipoke it for her, and told the milliner how she liked the capes. I am sure it is the same.

Court to Prosecutor. Was the prisoner a stranger to you? - I never see her before in my life.

Court to Masters. Do you know this man, what character he bears? - He is a servant, he bears a very good character; his wife is a laundress.

Prosecutor. I have lived with one master sixteen years.

The prisoner called two witnesses to her character.


Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-24
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence
SentenceImprisonment > house of correction; Miscellaneous > fine

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406. ELIZABETH BROWN was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of May , nine lawn handkerchiefs, value 18s the goods of Isaac Hawley , privately in his shop .


On Saturday the 10th of May last, between the hours of three and four in the afternoon, the prisoner at the bar, came to the shop of Mr. Isaac Hawley , a linen draper , in Oxford-street , and desired me to shew her some lawn pocket handkerchiefs; I shewed her several different patterns bordered; she desired me to shew her several plain ones; after I had shewed her several different quantities, I see a part of an handkerchief hanging from under her cloak, and from the pattern of the border, it gave me a suspicion that she had stole it from me, I therefore followed her out of the shop, and told her she had robbed us of some handkerchiefs. I brought her back into the shop, whereupon she dropped the handkerchiefs, which I found to be the property of Mr. Isaac Hawley .

Q. Were they in one piece of several pieces? - Nine handkerchiefs in one piece.

Q. Did you see her drop the piece? - I did not; I have a witness here that see her drop it.

Q. Who took up the piece? - I took it up, and took it to the public office, and have got it now; it was marked be

fore it was taken to the police office by the shop mark, put on by myself before it was stole; I can swear this is the same piece.

Q. When had you last seen it before it was taken? - I saw it when I was shewing it to her; this is one of the pieces that I was shewing her.

Q. Did you see her take it? - No.

Q. Where do you conceive it last to be before it was taken? - On the counter, with other things that I shewed her.

Q. What is the value of it? - Eightteen shillings; we gave more for it, they are lower now than when we bought it; we would give eighteen shillings for it now.

Q. Who else was in the shop? - A lady that is here, Catharine Hawley, the wife of my master; and a little boy that is not here, a servant of Mr. Hawley's.


I am the wife of Mr. Isaac Hawley; I was at the far end of the shop; I did not take notice of her taking any thing, I see her both come in and go out; I heard her ask the young man to shew her some lawn bordered handkerchiefs; I found she was not going to buy, and finding she had been troublesome in the shop before, I walked towards the doors, and when she went out Mr. Mason went out into the street after her, and brought her back, when she was brought into the shop, she dropped these nine handkerchiefs from under her left arm, I see her drop them.

Q. What was done with the nine handkerchiefs? Who picked them up? - I believe Mr. Mason did; they were afterwards taken down to the police office, and then brought back; I know this is the same from the pattern and the shop mark.

Q. Is that your husband's property? - I think I can swear to them by the mark.

Q. Do you know whether these had ever been sold? - Not to my knowledge.

Jury to Mason. How far was she from the shop? - Just off the step outside of the door.

Prisoner. I am a gentlewoman of Hamburg, and was very much distressed to pay my lodgings; I acknowledge taking the handkerchiefs; I have a very good family, and though I have been in confinement ten weeks, I have not let my friends know all the time. I have been twenty-eight years in England, I kept a house at Mary-le-bone; I am now a widow, have had many friends within that time, but they are dead mostly; since I have been a widow I have been twice abroad with a lady, and since then I have maintained myself by my industry, by sewing.

GUILTY, Of stealing, but not privately .

Imprisoned twelve months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s.

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-25
VerdictNot Guilty

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407. HENRY BULLOCK was indicted for stealing on the 14th of June , a cast metal bell, value 2s. 6d. the goods of Thomas Richardson , Esq.

JOHN WALL sworn.

I am a servant to Mr. Richardson, at Chelsea ; we lost the house bell, affixed close to the house wall in the garden.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-26
VerdictNot Guilty

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408. HENRY BULLOCK was again indicted for stealing, on the 14th of June , a cast metal bell, value 2s. 6d. the goods of persons unknown.


I am the man that helped to take the prisoner, on the 14th of June last, on Saturday about five o'clock in the morning, he turned first up into Sloan-square, but he ran, I suppose, three quarters of a mile before we took him, into the fields, we followed him from Sloan-square, because we saw the bundle under his arm.

Q. How came he to run? Did you give any alarm? - As soon as he saw us he took to his heels and ran away; when we were within five yards of him, he dropped this bundle, and I picked it up, and this man took hold of him; in the bundle is two metal bells and one pint pot; one bell belongs to Mr. Richardson.

Q. Do you know who the other belongs to? - We have not been able to find an owner.

Q. Now let Wall look at Mr. Richardson's bell. (To Wall) Can you say that to be Mr. Richardson's bell? - Yes, I can.


I saw the prisoner throw a pewter pot over the Bridge, in Chelsea, and he ran away then, and I ran after him, and he said he would swear a robbery against me.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-27
VerdictNot Guilty

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499. JOHN DEMPSEY and FLORENCE MACARTHY were indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of John Luddy , about the hour of one in the night of the 16th of June , and burglariously stealing therein, a silver watch, value 2l. 2s. seventeen guineas, and forty shillings in monies numbered ; the goods and monies of the said John Luddy.

The case opened by Mr. Keys.

The witnesses examined separate.


I was not awake at the time of the robbery, the property that was taken out of my pocket was forty three shillings; I live at No. 1, New Gravel lane, St. Giles's, Shadwell ; I am a coal heaver , and sells coals likewise; that night I went to bed before my wife, it was Friday the 6th of last June; I went to bed between eleven and twelve, I left my wife and young child up; I fastened the street door, bolted it inside, but did not lock it; my wife awaked me between one and two in the morning, when I found my clothes scattered about the place, and then I alarmed the watchman, and I said, watchman, come up, I am robbed; he said, God forbid.

Q. In what room were these clothes scattered? - Some in one and some in another, in my bed room. I sleep up stairs. I stood in my shirt till the watchman came up, and found me in the situation I have described. My watch was in the chest along with my money, in the room where I sleep; there was about forty shillings to forty-three shillings in my trowsers, and seventeen guineas in my chest; my trowsers were under my head in the bed. There was no lock to the chest; I did not see any alteration in it, it was not moved, the lid was down.

Q. Was your watch and money in the chest when you got up? - No. I wish it was. The trowsers were gone from under my head, and they were laying on the bed; I had put them under my head myself; when the watchman came,

I dressed myself and went down into the one pair of stairs room, the chamber where we live, we live in the chamber and sell coals in the lower room; then the watchman observed before I did, the tracking of a foot, and a naked bayonet laying on the table; then I took the bayonet with me, and went to a friends that I thought I had then, and told him I was robbed.

Q. Did you observe any thing else in that room? - No, only eighteen-pence that I had left in that room when I went to bed, they were there.

Q. Did you take any notice when you went down stairs how any body had got into your house? - No, I did not. All the notice I took was a track of a foot in the chamber.

Court. Did you ever find your watch or money again? - No, never.

Mr. Knowlys. I tell you before I ask you a question, I do not believe you ever was robbed; therefore you will be careful how you answer. I see you was pretty rich, seventeen guineas in your chest. How long had you had the money? - I had been collecting it as the customers came in.

Q. Will you swear positively that you had seventeen guineas? - I have done it already.

Q. You say you went to a friend as you thought? - I had.

Q. That friend that you mention is a man of the name of Drew, is not he? - He is.

Q. Was not you with that man about eight o'clock in the evening? - I was from four till nine, I dare say.

Q. You are in the militia as well as Drew? Did not you go and ask your commanding officer leave to go to Ireland, because of your extreme distress? - I deny that. I went to have my protection renewed.

Q. Did not you tell Drew that you was extremely distressed indeed to make up a little money to pay your coal merchant, and had only a few shillings? - I deny it, or any thing like it.

Q. On your oath, though you have told us that there was no money left in your trowsers after you was robbed, was not there half a crown produced out of them? - Not a farthing.

Q. So your wife was extremely ill of a fever and could not sleep? - I don't know, you must ask her that question; I know she was ill.

Q. Your friend Drew returned home with you after this robbery to see the house? - He did not; he lives in King-street, and I live in New Gravel-lane; I was at home about half past nine; the watchman called two when I called him into my house.

Q. Did not he return to you house at last? - Yes, he did; and he saw the track of a foot.

Q. Now this wife of your's, did not you find her fast asleep? - No, that I deny.

Q. How many duplicates were found on you when you was examined before the magistrate? - I don't know.

Q. On your oath, you rich man, with seventeen guineas in your trunk, and a watch in your trunk. How many duplicates were found on you? - I believe fifteen; but if I had five times seventeen guineas, it would have been all gone.

Q. These were very high minded thieves, they ran away with the silver and gold, and left the halfpence standing, they scorned to touch that? - Just so.

Q. You are sure your trowsers were under your head when you went to sleep? - I am sure they were.

Q. You did not wake during the whole course of the burglary? - No, indeed I did not; I wish I had.

Q. There was a watch stole you say. You have not taken that watch out of pawn since? - No.

Q. Then the duplicate of that watch was not among the other duplicates? - There was the duplicate of one pawned for seven shillings and sixpence, I can produce the letter that my mother sent it me from Ireland.

Q. Now this Dempsey is a man that has served in the militia as well as your self? - Yes.

Q. Now I observe there was a naked bayonet in your room, whose bayonet was that? - That was mine; when I went to bed, the belt was hanging by the chamber window, and the scabbard in it, and the bayonet in the scabbard.

Q. There is one thing more I would wish to ask you about Drew. Did not Drew tell you that perhaps your wife had laid up some money; and did not you tell Drew that you was sure your wife had never laid up any money? - No, I never said such a thing.

Q. Your neighbour Drew deceived you before the justice, and gave you the lie to all these things? - He never came till the last.

Q. If it was not so, Dempsey would not have been admitted to bail. Did not Dempsey come voluntary to justice? - That was not the way he came to justice, he came to the house where the officers are, I was going to the coal merchants the same time, to tell him I was robbed of his property; as I was going by, Dempsey says, d-mn you, don't you say that I robbed you. Says I you are the man that I want.

Q. I believe the magistrate took his word at the first hearing for his appearing again on Wednesday, at the further examination? - Yes.

Q. The man did appear? - Yes.

Q. And then after the magistrate had heard all, he admitted this man to bail. I suppose you know that if these two men are convicted, it would produce eighty pounds? - It is not for the sake of the blood money that I do it.

Q. What you have heard of blood money? - I have heard of it; I cannot have been so long in London but I must hear of it.


I am the wife of the last witness; I went to bed on the 6th of June last, between eleven and twelve, I was the last up in the house, I shut the chamber window when I went to bed, I am confident of it, because I was last in the room, our neighbourhood we live in is a very noisy neighbourhood, by which means when I heard the sash of the window open I paid no attention to it, I thought it was a neighbour, a woman that lives in the adjoining house, doing it to divert herself.

Q. Where was your bed room? - In the two pair of stairs room, the uppermost room in the house.

Q. Did any persons come into your bed room? - Yes, two men, the prisoner Dempsey was the foremost; about a quarter before one I heard the window open, and I heard a foot go down stairs, and the street door open, but I thought it was in the adjoining house; afterwards all remained still; after the watchman had gone round his beat of one o'clock, I heard them come from the lower room up into the chamber again, I thought it was in the next house, that it was the woman's nurse there, the woman being in a dying state; after the watchman was out of hearing I heard the feet come up into the two pair of stairs room; on hearing the feet I raised my head in the bed, the room door was only put to, it was not locked, I rise my head, and to my surprise I saw the prisoner Dempsey come in, he had a cap over his face, and another man at his back, that appeared to be something taller, he had lanthorn in his left hand, and a naked bayonet in the right.

Q. What sort of a lanthorn was that, was it a dark lanthorn? - I never saw a dark lanthorn, the light only appeared from one pane, but whether it was horn

or glass I cannot swear, my fright was so great; the pane from whence the light came was farthest from his body, the light did not shine on him, but from him, so when I saw the fight I was so frightened I was deprived of speech, and the first thing he did, was to present the bayonet to me, and said, if I made a word, he would have my bloody liver and lights out immediately.

Q. Was you in bed with your husband at that time? - Yes. He drew quite near to the side of the bed, as near as possible he could; he spoke in a middling manner, so as to be very plainly heard, he then put the bayonet to my collar bone, fixed it right here, and threatened in case I made the least alarm that he certainly would put an end to me; he put the lanthorn out of his hand, on a chair on the side of the bed, then the other man came to the other side of the bed, and raises my husband's shoulder up off the pillow, while Dempsey, with his left hand, took a pair of trowsers from under his head, he then threw down the trowsers on the bed, and took the lanthorn up in his hand, and still stood to guard me; the other man let my husband's head gently fall on the pillow, and the other man then took the money out of the trowsers pocket, then Dempsey demanded my pockets; I told him I had nothing in them; he asked me then where was my money? I told him I had no money, he had taken all I had; he said he knowed better, and if I did not give it him he would have my life; I told him he might as well take my life as to take what I had to support it, and he called me most infamous names, and took up the bayonet again, and said, if I did not give him my pockets he would kill us instantly, I then put my hand to the head of my bed, and threw my pockets to him, I having been ill, there was no money in my pocket but a single shilling, which had been paid me that evening. He laid hold of my pockets, and shook them, and finding no chink of money in them he flung them in my face, then he took with the bayonet and put the bed cloaths over my face, and placed it in the same place as before; the other man then went to search the places about, he went to the foot of the bed and examined one chest where my clothes lay, and found nothing in it.

Q. How do you know that he searched that chest? - Because I heard it open, for the room is so small that there is scarce room for the two chests, bedstead, and three or four chairs to stand. Then the other man examined the other, and there after he searched the chest, I heard the money gingle, and I heard the watch chain rattle in his hand; then I heard him walk towards the door. Dempsey asked him don't you mean to pack up? He made answer and says, no, d-mn it, it would be the way to blow the gaff. During the time of their speaking them words, the other man spoke, I heard the voice of another stranger, with a very distinct found, and he spoke twice in the irish language, and desired them to make haste.

Q. What do you mean by the Irish? - The speech of the country. I was born in Ireland, but bred in England. Then they went down stairs, then Dempsey returned up again, and took the bed clothes off my face with the point of the bayonet, and told me in case I made any alarm or the least resistance, he would leave them in the house that would finish us. On that they went down stairs into the chamber, and stopped for about five minutes; from that they went down into the lower room, and might stop near ten minutes longer there, and I heard them go out of the street door, and the door was shut on the latch; during the time that they stopped in the house, I used every endeavour in my power without speaking

to awake my husband, but it was all useless, I could not awake him; when I heard them go out of the street door, I screamed and made a great outcry to my husband, and acquainted him with our loss; I was a long time before I could make him sensible of what had happened; and when he became sensible, he was like a man almost distracted.

Q. Was he sober when he went to bed that night? - I cannot say that he was sober; he had been out a good part of the afternoon. Then he sat in the bed, and never got out of bed till such times as he heard the watchman cry two o'clock.

Q. Who was the other man? Did you know him? Did you ever see him before? - I cannot say that I did.

Q. He had no cap over his face? - Yes, he had; they had both caps. I have known Dempsey some years.

Q. Was the cap off his face any part of the time that he was in the room? - No, not that I saw.

Q. Then you did not see his face any part of the time? - I could not see his face.

Mr. Knowlys. Mrs. Luddy, I think you have the most accurate recollection of any woman I know; you have given us a very particular account of the manner in which this past. Did I hear you right that as soon as you saw the persons coming into the room, you could not speak? - I was shocked at that instant.

Q. And yet, I observe, that from that time you have given a very accurate account; I observe you say Mr. Dempsey very glibly, you never hesitate; you was examined twice before the magistrate? - Four times I was.

Q. The first time did not you say it was a person taller than Dempsey? - No. At the first examination Mr. Staples spoke in a very gruff manner, and asked me the reason why I could not stand up? I was very ill; they asked me what I thought of the prisoner, if I thought the prisoner was concerned? I told him that he was the man that held the bayonet to me, while I lay in bed. I said in my fright, as I lay in bed, they appeared to be taller than Dempsey, and he was a very stout man.

Q. On your oath, did not you, at the first examination, say that they both appeared taller than Dempsey? - I said, that the man, as I lay in bed, appeared so, but his voice corresponded. I swear to his voice, and his back.

Q. You know he put the clothes over your face, and he fastened it with his bayonet, and he was then afterwards so kind to release you, and to take the clothes off your face? - When he went he took the bayonet with him; if I had had courage enough I might have stripped the clothes off my face, but the fear of my life prevented me.

Q. Now you have told us that after your face was covered, that Dempsey went and rifled the box for money; where in point of fact there was no money; but the other man went and took the money? - No, it was the other man that rifled the chest.

Q. Now how can you tell which was the man that rifled the chest when your face was covered? - I must know the difference of the man that stood with the bayoner to me, and addressed me with horrid imprecations, and the man that was at a further distance, rifling the chest.

Q. How often do you think these threats were repeated to you? - Almost as often as he could speak, his tongue had scarce any intermission.

Q. And yet your husband lay snug in bed all the while? - When he has a drop of liquor in his head he is so stupified that you may take him where you please; whenever he is in liquor if he goes to sleep he never moves till he has had his sleep out; that is his disposition. It is a

shame that I should expose my husband's failings in an open court, but the occasion requires it.

Q. On your second examination how came you to say that it was a man about the size of John Dempsey that came in? - If the clerk took down the wrong examination I cannot help it.

Q. He read it over to you, and you swear to it, and signed it? - I signed it before it was read over to me; I signed it before I was sworn.

Q. Do you mean to swear, woman, that you signed it before you was sworn? - It was read to me before I was sworn.

Q. Was it not read to you after you was sworn? - Yes, I had been sworn to answer true answers.

Q. You and your husband use some particular words, that I should like to have explained. What is the meaning of blowing the gaff? - The meaning I take it to be, that if they took our clothes it would be the means of finding them out.

Q. Perhaps you have heard the meaning of blood money too? - I don't know; I heard say, when Mr. Macarthy prosecuted a person, that he would not have the blood money, he would have a Tyburn ticket.

Q. How came you to know the meaning of blowing the gaff? - In the neighbourhood where I live, I often hear the girls say that, it will blow the gaff.

Q. Do you know a man of the name of Michael Connell? - Not perfectly well, I have not seen him above half a dozen times in my life.

Q. On your oath, had you never such conversation with him as this, if you will say that the prisoner and Macarthy passed by my door between eleven and twelve it would be a good thing for me, and I will give you a couple of guineas? - I never did.

Q. What time did Mr. Drew come back? - About five o'clock.

Q. Was you not then in bed? - No, I was in the chamber below when Mr. Drew came in.

Q. I see that you had a great deal of money collected on this occasion? - It was not my own, it was belonging to our coal merchant; fourteen guineas belonged to him, and I owe it him at this present time, and three guineas I had of another man's money, one Richard Dunnivan , he lent us this money; I borrowed it from him about Christmas last.

Q. I take it for granted that if these men are convicted, you know there will be eighty pounds? - No, I don't know nothing about it; I swear positively that I don't know that there is a reward on such an occasion.

Q. You have heard of blood money? - I heard it said in our shop, at the time when Mr. Macarthy prosecuted the man that committed the forgery by the labourers, that he would not take the blood money, and answer was made, no, he would get the freedom of the City, or a Tyburn ticket; that was the first time that ever I heard of it.

Q. When was the second time? - You ask me the question now.

Court. When you heard the voice on the stairs calling to the people in the irish language, do you know by the particular manner of the voice, it was the prisoner Macarthy? - I never see him till I see him a prisoner.

Q. How soon did you tell your husband that it was Dempsey came into this house? - I did not tell him it was Dempsey immediately; at first he asked me if I knew who it was? I told him I knew the voice of the man very well that held the bayonet to my face; but I did not tell him the name. This Thomas Drew he came up to my room where I was sitting, and he asked me every particular

circumstance; I related to him as I have at present. When I described the voice of the boy, they said there was a boy that lodged at John Dempsey 's that answered to his voice, and they said they saw him come out of the Black Bull, at four o'clock that morning, and they dare say he was going off into the country. I did not know it was Dempsey at the time owing to weakness and illness, and the fright together.

Q. How came you on the first examination of Dempsey, not to be positive to him? - I was not capable of speaking.

Q. Then you did not tell your husband because at the time you was not sure it was Dempsey, and at the first of your examination on the 6th, because you was not capable of speaking; and on the 18th of June, you said you was sure it was Dempsey? - I was confident then it was Dempsey; but I could not speak the place was all in confusion, the office was as full as it could be.

Q. How much do you owe the coal merchant? - Fourteen pounds thirteen shillings and four-pence.


I am the watchman. At the hour of two o'clock, I was coming down the street, and this man called to the assistance of me, saying, pray, for God's sake, make haste. I went to the door, and he called me up; I went up stairs and gave him a light out of my lanthorn; and he said, I am ruined for ever; says he, I am robbed of my money and my clothes. His clothes were afterwards found, and his money was gone. Afterwards we went down into the one pair of stairs, and there was a bayonet laying naked on the table, and the print of a shoe, as if a man had put his foot in at the window.

Mr. Knowlys. This man shewed you all this? - He had no light; he said let us go down below; and we went both down together; I desired to go down below, to see if there was any body in the house.


Q. You only know about the apprehending? - That is all I know.

Mr. Knowlys. Did not Dempsey come up to meet any charge that might be brought against him? - Yes; and his word was taken for his appearance.

Prisoner Dempsey. It is rather too late in the day for me to begin to go a robbing.


I am acquainted with both the prosecutor and prisoner; I have been acquainted with Luddy about five years, and Dempsey about the same time; we are fellow militia men together.

Q. Do you recollect the evening when this house breaking was said to be committed? - Yes; I was in company with Luddy that evening till about half past eight; he came to where I was at work, about five o'clock, he seemed to be down much at the heart, which I was very sorry for; John, says I, what is the matter? come and let us have some beer; says I, I will treat you with part of a pot: with that we called for a pot, and before the pot was half drank, he called me out, and said he must set off now: says I, where? Says he, on board a ship; says he, I must be off, for my wife has made away with the creditors money that I had, and I must be off; come to Black Wall and get a ship for me, and you will have crimpage money for me; he puts his hand into his breeches pocket and pulls out a few shillings and four half crowns, and one of the half crowns was marked the same as this. (Pulls one out of his pocket.) Then I advised him that he had volunteered once before on board the Tender, so I advised him to go into

the country, as the harvest was coming on; and he asked me if I would go with him; I told him I would not go with him; but I advised him to go, and let his wife set off about her business. Then we parted about half past eight or it might be near nine; and then the watchman came to me; when he parted with me he agreed not to go to sea; then he asked me if I could get him the loan of two or three guineas from one of my lodgers, to buy two or three vats of coal; so that the coal merchant should not know that he was out of stock; then we parted; and he came to me before the watchman went two o'clock; the watchman was going about, but he did not cry the hour.

Q. Did you ask him any more questions before the second time? - I asked him whether he did not over hawl to see whether his wife had not some money hid in the house? He said he had not a copper but what he shewed me.

Q. When he came to you after the robbery, what did he complain of then? - He complained that he had lost all his things; I thought then it was his clothes; he declared then he had not a halfpenny worth in the world, but what he had been robbed of.

Q. Did he mention to you at that time what he had been robbed of? - No, he did not; I thought it must be his clothes, because he had told me that he had but these four half crowns and a few shillings to pay his creditors, and he took an unlawful oath about it. I went with him about, thinking I might see some people in the night houses with a bundle; we called at two or three, and we drank in each house, and he paid for what we had, except in one house, in which I paid for a pint of two-penny; we went to one house two or three times, because we could not meet with houses as often as he wanted to drink, then going with him about and finding nothing, I goes on board a ship to work that day, and the first thing I heard, was, of these people being taken, and Luddy was at work with me on the Monday following, on board the same ship; Monday afterwards we were at very dusty work, and wanted some drink, and we were short of money most of us, and he put his hand into his pocket, and pulled out a handful of money, and said that he would lend money to any one that wanted it, and I saw that half crown again in his hand that I saw the Friday before. I was his bosom friend, nor would I have spoken this, if he was not going to take away these persons lives. I said to him, in ShadwellDock, John, you know what I know of you, and you must not go to take away their lives.

Q. Did you in consequence of hearing that these people were going to be committed for an offence that would affect their lives, go and declare this story? - I did.

Q. Did you go back to Luddy to his house, after he told you that he had been robbed? - I did; and his wife was obliged to be called three times before she waked; at the third time he says, why don't you awake and tell Mr. Drew what happened to you? which the woman did not tell me any thing about, and I went down into their chamber, and I saw two heaps, about six or seven penny worth of halfpence laying, and I said, why, John, they did not take all from you: Says he that is the money that I put there last night. But I declare to you that a cat could not have come in at the window, without disturbing these halfpence.

Mr. Keys. The money that was paid at the public house, how was it paid? - He had six-pence in silver, and the rest in halfpence.

Q. When was it you first heard of his being robbed of seventeen guineas and

forty shillings? - I heard of it when he made a charge of it, at the second hearing before the justice.

Q. Was not you there on the first hearing when the charge was made? - I may go up there, but not on behalf of either of these.

Q. Did not you know what the charge was against Dempsey on that Monday? - No.

Q. When did you first hear of it? - A couple of days before he had the last hearing. I think worse of him than I do of the prisoner at the bar.


I live in Rosemary-lane; I am acquainted with the prosecutors, Mr. Luddy and Mrs. Luddy.

Q. Did Mrs. Luddy make any application to you, or say any thing relating to this business? - Yes; it was the day that she came to serve me with a summons to attend at the justice Staple's office; she told me she would be obliged to me if I would attend there the next day at twelve o'clock; I went to the office, and in going to the office, I met her in the way, she over took me, and called to me, and asked me what I was going to swear? I told her that all that I had to say was, that I saw these two persons going to their lodgings between nine and ten o'clock at night, to the best of my knowledge, it was the same night that this matter happened; she told me, arrah, if you swear that you will do me over; swear that you saw them both going by my door between eleven and twelve o'clock, and I will handsomely reward you as far as two guineas; I turned about and had a mind to have hit her a slap of the mouth, and told her I would not do any such a thing for the world.

Q. How came she to bring a summons to you to attend at the office? - The time that this man was robbed, on Friday night, I happened the same night to see Dempsey and this other go home that night to their lodgings, and I went up on Sunday to Jack Luddy 's, and she told me who it was that had robbed them, that Dempsey was one; and I said, sure enough I met him and his son going to their lodgings, between nine and ten that night.

Court to Prosecutrix. When was it you first went to Mr. Staples? - On Saturday morning, the next day after the boy was apprehended, between six and seven that morning.


I know the prisoner Dempsey, I lodge in his house, my son slept in the same house along side of me; he was taken up between seven and six in the morning, in which this house was said to be broke open. I was the last that was up in the house that night, I was up attending a person with a sick child, the mother sat up all night; I went to bed the latter end of the night, all the house was in bed at ten o'clock; I saw Dempsey going to bed, and saw him after going to bed; I got up the first in the morning, when my little boy was called out to be taken.

Q. Was he out any time of the night? - No, never since he was born; he never was out a night from me, and he slept on the same bed with me that night.

The prisoner Dempsey called seven witnesses who gave him a good character.

Both Not GUILTY .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice LAWRENCE.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-28
VerdictNot Guilty

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411. ANN COOPER and JUDITH LEARY were indicted for feloniously making an assault, on the King's highway, on Francis Revechen , on the 14th of June , putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person, and against

his will, a gold watch, value 5l. 5s. a metal watch key, value 1d. and a black ribbon, value a halfpenny; his goods .


On the 14th of June last, I lost a watch; I cannot tell how I lost it.

Q. Where was you? - I cannot tell exactly; I was, to my shame and sorrow, in liquor. A woman took it out of my pocket, but who it was I don't know; it was about eleven or half after eleven at night; I believe it was at the top of Drury-lane.


On the 14th of June, Saturday night, I was in Parker's-lane, St. Giles's, in a public house, the Golden Hart , enjoying myself with a pint of beer; about twelve or eleven o'clock, the woman said that it was time to shut up; and came into the street, and coming out I saw Ann Cooper and the other woman, I knew them before, I suppose these three or four years; I see them in company with this gentleman that lost the watch.

Q. Did you know him before? - No. The man was a little in liquor, and I see them very busy about him, laying their hands on him; Ann Cooper forced his watch from him; laid hold of his watch and pulled it out from the fob, and at the time he went to save his watch, I turns about, and I see this Judith Leary sitting at her own door, she lives in a lower room, and I see her picking a watch up, but I cannot say it was the same watch.

Q. What was Judith Leary doing while Ann Cooper was taking the watch out of his fob? - Sitting at her own door. Then the gentleman came to the door, and he knocked at the door with his foot, and he said he had lost his watch; with that Ann Cooper ran into Will Fa g n's house, a different house; the man, when he followed her in, says, that is the woman who robbed me of my gold watch, and I shall follow her; and I spoke to the watchman.

Q. Pray what are you? - I am a mason's labourer.

Q. Have you seen the gentleman since he was robbed? - Yes.

Q. Are you perfectly sure that is the same man? - I am.

Q. Did you hear him speak? - Yes; he seems to be a Frenchman. I told him when he was following Ann Cooper , that it was of no use following her, for she had not got the watch about her; and he says to her, if you will give me my watch, I will give you a guinea, and drop the cause; and Ann Cooper made answer and said, if he would give the guinea, she would give the watch: then he put his hand into his waistcoat pocket, and pulled out a shilling, a six-pence, and three halfpence; then I advised him not to give the guinea.

Q. What became of the shilling and six pence? - He laid it down on the table, and the house keeper, Fagen, said that he should not give it, for he should have his watch again; and said, if I cannot help you, you shall not spend your money. With that Cooper got out of the house, and I walked as far as Broad St. Giles's, and I saw her again, and I laid hold of her in the street, and I brought her to the watchman, and I said, take charge of that woman, for robbing this gentleman of his gold watch; and as he laid hold of her, I said, mind that she drops nothing out of her hand. After that, as she goes along, she throws down a watch on the pavement.

Q. Did you see her drop this watch on the pavement? - Yes; the watchman was the first man, I believe, that took it up, and William Fagen rather forced it from the watchman, and said to the gentleman, here, sir, here is your watch.

Q. Where did you first see the watch after it was dropped? - On William Fagen 's table. We went back to Wil

liam Fagen's house after we got the watch, he then said it was not his watch, his was a gold one; and I took it to the watch-house keeper.


This woman, Ann Cooper, ran into my place; I live at No. 2. Broad-yard, Parker's-lane, St. Giles's parish; she ran in before the gentleman.

Q. Did she lodge there? - No, she did not.

Q. Is it a public house? - No, it is not.

Q. Who came in after her? - The gentleman came in after her; she ran one side of the house, and the gentleman ran in after her, and the man said that was the woman that robbed me of the watch; I did not see the watch at all; the silver watch that was picked up, the gentleman said it was not his watch.

Q. Who did you get that watch from? - From the watchman; it was taken to the watch house keeper; I saw Nan Cooper drop this silver watch.


I am the watchman of St. Giles's parish, between one and two o'clock, Sunday morning, the 14th of June, as I was crying the hour, I met five or six coming down in a body to me, and a woman before them; Ann Cooper, the prisoner, she was walking before, and John Murphy says to me, take charge of that prisoner, for robbing the gentleman of his watch; I had my lanthorn under my arm, and my stick under my arm, and I got hold of the woman; says Murphy, don't let her drop any thing; as soon as ever he said the words, she dropped the watch; directly as soon as ever the watch was dropped, I picked up the body of the watch in my hand, in this way; this William Fagen then said, I must have the watch; I said, no, you shall not, on account of that Nan Cooper got away; he forced the watch out of my hand; I was obliged to let him have the watch, and he brought the gentleman, and the watch, and Murphy, to his own house; I follows, when I went into the house I saw the watch delivered on the table to the gentleman; the gentleman said, that is not my watch, mine was a gold watch, and I will not take that. I insisted then that all should come to the watch-house, to the constable of the night, where the watch was delivered again on the table to the gentleman, and he denied that it was his, he said that his was a gold watch.


On Sunday morning, the 15th of June, between eight and nine o'clock, I apprehended the prisoner Ann Cooper .


I am the watch-house keeper; the watchman, Dignell, brought Fagen to the watch-house, and charged him with taking a watch out of his hand; Fagen gave me the watch, and he laid it on the table; the gentleman that had lost his watch said, that was not his watch, his was a gold one; I took charge of William Fagen, and locked him up, and took him before a justice of peace the next morning. The justice made him find bail; we suspected that he was a rogue then.

Prosecutor. That is not my watch. - sworn.

I apprehended the woman Leary by the information of Murphy.

Prisoner Cooper. I leave it to the mercy of God and the jury; I never saw the gentleman in my life.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Lord CHIEF BARON.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-29
VerdictNot Guilty

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412. WILLIAM PARKER was indicted for that he, on the 29th of May , a black gelding, value 10l. the goods of Thomas Clutterbuck , Esq. in a certain cart belonging to him, unlawfully, maliciously, and feloniously did maim and wound .


Mr. Clutterbuck is a minor, and I am his guardian; I know nothing of the transaction myself; the prisoner was in my service.

Mr. Knowlys. Was it your horse or Mr. Clutterbuck's? - Mr. Clutterbuck's; a black gelding.


I am a stage coachman; I drive my own coach, the Pinner stage. On the 29th of last May, between the hours of five and six in the afternoon, as I was driving my stage between Stanmore and Edgeware, I saw a little way before me two or three teams, the driver of the first team had got hold of one horse, whether it was the foremost or not I cannot say, he had got hold of the halter, and he got pulling it in, beating it about the head, that is all that I saw.


I am the Watford stage coachman. Between the hours of five and six, on the 29th of last May, I saw Mr. Clutterbuck's man, the prisoner at the bar, I knew him before; I saw him ill using one of the horses, beating it about the head with the whip.

Q. Would not the horse do as he ordered him? - The team was stopped at that present time; he did not seem to want to go on; the horse seemed to be unruly.


I am a bailiss to Thomas Clutterbuck I did not see the business transacted.


The fore horse took the wrong road not this horse, and he whipped the sore horse, and they set on the run, and got away from me a great distance, which I never saw no more of it till I came up to him, and the horses were standing still and I saw this horse's tongue hanging out of his mouth, and his mouth full of blood, and I said to him, what have you done? you have killed the horse; the answer he made was, the horse should not be his master.

Haynes. When the horse came home his mouth was all bloody, and his tongue hung out; I opened his mouth, and his tongue was almost tore through at the root.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-30
VerdictNot Guilty

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423. DAVID MACCLUGH was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of June , a piece of gold lace, value 1l. the goods of Valentine Rawle .


I am an accoutrement-maker to the army, I live in Suffolk, near Charing Cross. In the month of May, I missed one trimming of a cap out of four; I never found it nor did I choose to make any enquiry, because if I could not find out the thief, it would put him on his guard.

Q. What was it you lost? - A gold line and tassels.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice LAWRENCE.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-31
VerdictNot Guilty

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414. WILLIAM SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 2d of July , a watch, value 1l. a silver watch chain, value 3s. a silver seal, value 2s. a piece of french silver coin, value 3d. a metal watch key, value 1d. the goods of Robert Williams .


Robert Williams will not make his appearance; I took in this watch of this woman Ann Macclugh .


I pawned a watch with Mr. Fellows, Friday week; I got it of my master William Green; he keeps a chandler's shop. - GREEN sworn.

I delivered a watch to the last witness, to be pawned; I got it of William Smith , the prisoner, he came to lodge with me the over night; I keep a chandler's shop and lodging house; he came the 2d of this month, a young girl came into my lodgings, and asked me if I had got a bed for herself and husband? the young man then came in and said, I have got nothing to leave with you of money, but I will leave property; so he left the watch in care with me all night, and another young woman came in, and she asked for half a bed; and he said it was his acquaintance, he would pay for both, In the morning William Smith came down, and said, Mr. Green, where is my watch? and I gave it to him; and he said to me, I will go and pawn it, and will bring you the money, he said if I disputed his word he would rather I would send it to pawn; I called my servant to send it to pawn by, and she asked him what he was to pawn it for? and he told her as much as she could, and he told her to pawn it for eighteen shillings, she pawned it at Mr. Mothwaite's, and she brought the money and the duplicate, and laid it on the counter, and the young man took the money, and begged of me to keep the duplicate till he paid what he owed me, till he went out and came back again, and he took the money, and he said he was going to enter on board a ship, and he should get some premium, and he would come and pay me; I did not see any more of him till the 4th, and the constable of Bow-street and the prosecutor who lost the watch, came to my house, and called for me, and the constable asked if I knew William Smith ? I told him all that had passed, and they asked me to produce the duplicate, which I did, and I went with them to the pawnbroker's, and demanded the watch, and the pawnbroker and me, and the rest of the parties went to Bow-street, and he was examined there, and he owned the truth.

Court. What could you think when you saw a boy of that appearance come with a watch? - He did not appear to me as a boy then, I really did not suspect him; in the morning I asked him where he was up, and what countryman he was? he said he was no countryman at all, and he said that he was brought up at the school of industry, in King-street, and as soon as he was sufficiently able he went to sea; he said he bought the watch at

Southampton, and gave three guineas and a half for it.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Lord CHIEF BARON.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-32
SentenceMiscellaneous > fine

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415. ELIZABETH SMITH was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 5th of July , a cotton gown, value 14s. the goods of Joseph Fisher .


I am the wife of the prosecutor, I know Elizabeth Smith; my husband lives in Petticoat-lane, Whitechapel parish; he goes about with a barrow, and is a watchman in Whitechapel parish; I have known Mrs. Smith for three years past, she goes about the streets picking up bones and rags; she came into my house, and asked me if I wanted to buy any bits of linen? I bought some bits of linen of her, she made an excuse to go to a cradle, where was a child laying about two years old, and she took the cotton gown out of the cradle foot, I did not see her take it out, I missed it about ten minutes after she was gone out of the house; the child had not brought it from the pawnbroker's a quarter of an hour before; I desired him to lay it on the foot of the cradle, where his sister lay asleep.


I know the prisoner at the bar, I have got a gown, the prisoner brought it to me on Saturday, the 5th of July.

Court to Mrs. Fisher. When did this woman come to your house? - The 5th of July, Saturday evening, between ten and eleven o'clock in the evening.

Q. To Price. What time did she come to you? - Much about that time.

Q. To Fisher. How far did Price live from you? - About two or three minutes walk.

Q. To Price. Did you know Elizabeth Smith before this? - Yes; when I was going to billet it she told me not to put it in her own name, but in the name of Mary Abrahams.

Q. What did you advance on it? - Seven shillings.

Fisher. This is my gown, here is a piece that was tore from it.

Prisoner. If you please to hear me, Mrs. Fisher sent for me to speak to me, and I have got a complaint in my head that I cannot bear any liquors, and as soon as I went into her place she asked me to drink gin, and my head is not fit to contain any spirits, and my poor senses being gone, I unfortunately took the gown, and am very sorry for it; and more than that we had part of a pot of beer together.

Fisher. We did not drink a drop together, we have five small children, and I cannot afford to spend my money in gin.

GUILTY . (Aged 55.) Fined 1s.

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-33
VerdictNot Guilty

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416. THEODOSIA WALKER was indicted for stealing, on the 7th of July , a watch with a gold enamelled case, value 10l. 10s. the goods of Edmund Thomas Duvall .


On Monday the 7th of July, about two or three, o'clock as I was coming up the

Second, I saw the prisoner at the bar, and I wanted a bed, and I addressed her, and asked her if she was in the same situation with myself, with that she brought me to the One Bell, behind the New Church, and I could not recollect the next day whether it was the waiter or the maid that let me in, I very well remember I desired to be called at nine o'clock the next day, and I gave the waiter a guinea, then he brought me the change, and I had the watch in my fob; the next morning I was called at nine o'clock, and when I awoke the woman was gone, and I missed the watch.

Q. What part of the night did you perceive the watch to be in your fob? - Before I went there, I had it when I was in Salisbury-street, going to Somerset-house.

Q. How many women had you talked to by the way? - Only one, and this woman, I am sure I had it in Salisbury-street.

Q. Then your attention was not called to your watch from the time you was in Salisbury street till the next morning, when you found the woman gone and your money gone? - No.

Q. Did you ever get your watch after? - No. As she comes of very creditable parents, I beg the court, as a very particular favour, will grant her mercy.


I am cook at the Bell, I know nothing of her, only letting her in between the hours of five and six in the morning, with this gentleman.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice LAWRENCE.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-34
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Miscellaneous > fine

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417. JEREMIAH ELLIS was indicted for making an assault on John Edwards , on the King's highway, on the 6th of July , and putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person and against his will, a boy's hat, value 1s. the goods of the said John Edwards .

Indicted in a Second COUNT, laying it to be the property of Paul Marshall .


I am nine years old; I was standing up at Stepney Green at nine o'clock the Sunday before last, in the night, at one Captain Scott's, and this man and two more came by, they all three stopped about five minutes, and the other two went off, then I looked about at this man, and looked about again at Captain Scott's, and this man took off my hat, and he ran down a turning in Stepney Green, and as he was running down the turning I saw him put the hat behind his coat, and as he was running he dropped it, then I ran after him, and he went and stood up behind a tree, and hen when I got close to him almost I hallooed out stop thief! then he went on, and walked quite fast, and then this gentleman heard me call out stop thief! and he stopped him, then this gentleman searched him, and did not find my hat about him; as he was taking him to the watch-house he wanted sadly to go down a turning, in order, as I suppose, to get the hat, then when we got about five yards from the watch-house, a woman came with the hat, then the gentleman, Mr. Tipper, says, now I will take both you and the hat to the watch-house, and he did so. I am quite sure it was the prisoner that took my hat off.


Sunday before last, about nine o'clock in the evening, as I was standing by my door, I heard the cry of stop thief! I ran to it, and I found the lad had lost his hat, and I was determined to see him righted,

to get the hat again, and Mr. Tipper had the prisoner, taking him to the watch-house at the same time, I said to the prisoner, where is the boy's hat? says he, what more do you want of me, if I shew you where the hat is? I had not spoke it a minute before a woman came up and brings me the hat, therefore Tipper and I considered of it, to take the prisoner at the bar and the hat to the watch-house.


On Sunday, the 6th of this month, I was coming over Stepney Green, and I saw the prisoner at the bar run, or walk away very sharp from the little boy, and the little boy calling out stop thief! I desired my wife who was with me to walk on, and I ran to the boy, and asked him what was the matter? he told me that that person had robbed him of his hat, and I ran after him, and took him, I searched him and found no hat; as I was taking him to the watch-house he wanted sadly to stop, or go down a turning that he thought; he could find the hat, if I would let him go down.

Prisoner. I have no concerns with the hat, I was looking after my jacket on the green, I did not belong to the other two.


Of stealing, but not of the highway robbery.

Whipped and fined 1s .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-35

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418. MARGARET DALLERSON was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of May , a linen sheet, value 2s. two linen bed curtains, value 2s. a cotton bed quilt, value 2s. the goods of John Griffiths , in a lodging room .


I am the wife of John Griffiths , my husband keeps a lodging house ; I know the prisoner at the bar, I let lodgings to her, one room. I live at No. 7, Little Peter-street, Westminster ; I let her the room for three shillings a week, she continued in it a fortnight and a few days; she went away and took the key of the door, and I believe it was a week or nine days after before I found the things were gone, then I missed two curtains, one sheet, and a bed quilt; she left it the 24th of May. - sworn.

I am pawnbroker, I have got the things, they were pawned at different times; a sheet the 15th of May; a quilt the 19th; two curtains pledged the 23d of May; all by the prisoner at the bar, I knew her before; I am clear to her person, I took in the sheet and quilt, but I did not take in the curtains.

Prosecutrix. They are my things.

Prisoner. I was very much distressed for money, and my landlady gave me leave to pledge them things for a day or two.

GUILTY . (Aged 28.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-36
VerdictNot Guilty

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419. THOMAS CAPPS was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of June , a bushel of wheaten flour, value 8s. the goods of Joseph Bell .


I am a baker in Watling-street. On

Friday the 20th of June I was going up Ludgate-street, and I saw the prisoner going towards Dean-court, up to Doctor's Commons; he was then my servant ; he had this basket on his shoulder, and I knew that at that time he had no business of mine to do with a basket; I immediately followed him, and went up to him, and called Thomas three times before he would answer, at last I went up to him, and spoke to him, and asked him what he was going to do with the basket? he faultered a moment or two, and could not give me an answer, at last he said he was going to carry it to a Mr. Findley, at last he changed his mind and said he was going to a Mr. Hale, they are master bakers; I immediately said, where have you brought it from? says he, a man gave it me in Newgate-market, to carry to Mr. Hale; I then immediately said, I dare say you will be able to find the man that gave it you in Newgate-market, therefore take it back to my house, he took it back, then I delivered him in custody of a constable, I then went down to Mr. Hale.

Q. What was in the basket? - Abushel of wheaten flour, or better. I then went down to Mr. Hale and Mr. Findley, and Mr. Findley said he would have nothing to do with it. Mr. Hale is here; it was Mr. Hale's basket, he had called on him that afternoon for it.

Q. How do you know the flour to be your's? - I only know it by the circumstance, he could not give me any satisfactory account how he came by it.

Q. Can you swear that you have lost such flour? - Yes, I have lost a great deal, and I have very great reason to believe that I lost a sack one night.

- HALE sworn.

On the 20th of June Thomas Capps passed my door, and he asked me how I did? I said I am very well in health, but I am vexed in mind; he asked me what was the matter? I told him I had bought some flour and it was not come home, and I wanted to set my spunge for bread; he said, he had got a little by him, and if it would be of any service to me I was welcome to it; I said, I did not want but little, he asked me to lend him a basket, and I lent him the basket to bring me the flour; this was between seven and eight o'clock I believe.

Q. To Prosecutor. What time did you see him? - It was nine when I took him.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-37
VerdictNot Guilty

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420. WILLIAM LLOYD was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of April , twenty-seven glass tumblers, value 9s. twelve glass goblets, value 6s. the goods of John Marsh and Elizabeth Proctor , widow .(The case opened by -.)


I keep a wholesale warehouse in the earthen and glass way; we have frequently missed goods, I am in partnership with Elizabeth Proctor , a widow; this man was a servant of mine; he has lived servant with me between six and seven years, I thought he was a very honest man, and he has given me a wonderful deal of trouble; the only reason I had to suspect him, was, that whenever he had any thing to open of glass, we were always short, and had been so for some time; I mentioned it to the rest of the servants, and we endeavoured to do what we could, to see who was the thief. Mr. Adams that is here called on me, and asked me if one Lloyd lived with me? Mr. Adams is a broker; the prisoner was not present, he had just been at his house

selling some goods, he is a broker in Fore-street; Mr. Adams came and said, I am afraid you have got a great thief in your house, then I desired Mr. Adams would purchase such and such things of him; Mr. Adams did not purchase the things, Mrs. Fleming did, she keeps the shop for Mr. Adams.

Q. What did she purchase of him? - Tumblers and goblets, as in the indictment; he took the goods in his pocket, the greatest part.

Q. Did you receive of Mrs. Fleming the account of the articles that she bought? - I did, and of Mr. Adams, and I shewed Lloyd the account.

Q. In that account was there these particular articles which are charged in the indictment? - Yes, I shewed it to Lloyd; this is the account I took from the conversation of Mrs. Fleming, and I took it at the time, there are four tumblers in the indictment besides what is in this account.

Q. Where did you take this account, at your own house? - No, at Mr. Adams's, it was dictated by Mrs. Fleming, as the account of things she had taken, and the articles I desired her to put on one side, that they might be forth coming.

Q. On shewing the prisoner that account, what did he say? - He said he had stole the goods, sold them, and received the money for them.

Q. Do you, in point of fact, know what became of the goods that Mrs. Fleming bought? - They are the greatest part of them here; I see them at Mrs. Fleming's house the 14th.


I am sister to Mr. Adams, who keeps the glass shop in Fore-street; I bought eight glass tumblers of the prisoner, them were the first, the next I bought was four, then I bought six the next, and twelve goblets, and four more tumblers, the next was seven tumblers.

Q. Did you buy these promiscuously, or did he bring them according to your directions? - The first time he came into the shop by accident, I asked him what he wanted? he said, he used to deal with Mrs. Beale for tumblers; I told him I wanted some small tumblers and goblets; he brought me them there, I had no suspicion of him till the third time, which was the 3d of April.

Q. Notwithstanding this suspicion you did receive some goods afterwards? - We did, in hopes of finding him out; the fourth time he came about nine o'clock in the evening, and I did not let Mr. Adams know till the morning, when I gave Mr. Adams information.

Q. What was done with the things you received of the prisoner? - Before I had any suspicion, I put part of the things in the window and sold them; the rest are now in court, in the hands of Mr. Smith.

Q. When first this man came to you bringing of glass tumblers, was he a total stranger to you? - A total stranger to me.

Q. Did you or did you not give him what was a fair price of the trade, or did you give him an under price? - The servant told me that he had been used to serve the shop in Mrs. Beale's time.

Q. Did you pay the real value for them? - Yes.

Q. You had paid the prisoner for them? - Yes, I had, as he brought them in.

Q. Did you give Mr. Marsh any account of the glass you bought? - Mr. Adams did.

Q. Pray did you happen to mark the glass? - Mr. Adams did in my presence.

Q. He never gave you any account how he came by them? - No.


I am the proprietor of the glass shop in Fore-street. I made a purchase of the shop the 18th of January last. I never see any glass brought, my sister has bought some glass tumblers, the first she bought I took no notice of the second time she told me that he appeared to be an odd tradesmen, for he brought the goods in his pocket; I requested my sister when he came again to let me see him, when he came the third time I was told, and I went into the shop and looked at him, I went into the shop and walked out again, and had some suspicion that he lived at some glass warehouse, and he was robbing his master; the next time he came it was in the night, when he brought the goblets, I did not see him, my shop was shut up; the next time he came I saw him, and followed him along London Wall, that was on the 10th of April, Thursday, about five o'clock, just at dark; I followed him from No. 67, Fore-street, to London Wall, where I lost sight of him at the bottom of Phillip-lane; he came again on Saturday evening, and I followed him up the street, and he went into Mr. Spodes, and I, after he came out, went into Mr. Spodes, and asked them where he lived? and they told me he lived with Mr. Marsh; and I applied to Mr. Marsh's house, and he was not within, and I left my card, requesting that he would come down; the servant asked if any body else would do? I told him no. On Tuesday morning Mr. Marsh came down to me, I then told him that I had a suspicion that he had a servant that robbed him, and described the old man, the prisoner at the bar, I then went with Mr. Marsh and shewed him the goods that he had brought and Mr. Marsh looked at the goods and said, that he had not a doubt but they were his property, the goods are part of them here, they were put bye, I marked every article that they might be known afterwards, all that were not sold, they were delivered to the constable, Smith.


Mr. Marsh came to me, to the Castle, at Moorgate, to fetch me to take the prisoner into custody, on Tuesday the first of this month, going along, I think it was in Coleman-street, the prisoner said, it would be nothing, for his master could not swear to the property. In the compter, he told me that one in the shop ( Robert Pearson ) was concerned with him, but not much.

Q. What did you understand that he meant to relate to when he said it would be nothing at all, &cc.? - I understood that he related to these glasses, for which I apprehended him; I afterwards went to Mrs. Fleming, along with Mr. Marsh and Mr. Adams, they said, that the goods were there, and I left them there till Mr. Adams put a private mark on them, and then I received them of Mr. Adams, out of his shop, and I have kept them ever since, these are the glasses.

Adams. These are the glasses marked by me and delivered to the constable.

Fleming. These are the goods I received from the prisoner.

Q. Are they in the account you gave to Mr. Marsh of goods bought? - All but the four which were bought subsequent to giving the account to Mr. Marsh.

Adams. Mr. Marsh desired me to give him an order when he came again, for some cut glass and cut falts, whereby he should be able to detect the prisoner, but he absconded before he brought these, because when he came the last time there was a man in the shop who knew him.

Marsh. I believe it is my property, but I cannot swear to them, he told me that he stole them from me, and sold them to Mrs. Fleming and received the money.

Q. Had you told him at this time it would be better for him? - I told him whatever the law would do he should have it, an old villain like him that I had given money to, when he had not done half his work.

Prisoner. My lord, I do not deny but what I sold these goods to this good woman here, but they are not Mr. Marsh's property, they are goods that I bought in the street, and I can buy them every day in the street, and sell them again.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-38
VerdictNot Guilty

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421. JAMES SAMPLE and WIL-LIAM WOOD were indicted for making an assault, on the King's highway, on Samuel Denison, on the 5th of July , putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person and against his will, a watch, with a fish skin case, value 2l. a cornelian seal set in gold, value 10s. and three shillings and six-pence in monies numbered, the goods and monies of the said Samuel Denison .


On Saturday the 5th of this month, I was going down to Harrow Hill-common, I had a lady with me, between eight and nine o'clock in the evening. or near nine, in the road between Stanmore and Harrow Hill-common , at the eleven mile stone from London exactly, two men on horse back came up to the carriage, one on one side and one on the other, the man on the right hand side of the carriage presented a pistol and demanded our money and watches, the lady gave her purse and I gave them a few shillings that I had in my pocket, then they demanded my watch, which I likewise gave them, I think the silver I gave was no more than three shillings and six-pence, I gave it to the man on the right hand; the other side the glass was up and never let down; then he said he knew I had more money, or some such expression; then he wanted a pocket book, I told him the truth was I had no pocket book; he seemed much dissatisfied and pressed it exceedingly, I told him I had none; then he went away without any thing further; with respect to the other man he was standing on the left hand side of the carriage with a pistol in his hand, and while the other man was robbing me, speaking to me particularly about the pocket book, he swore to me and said no prevarication, or no hesitation, or some such expression.

Q. Did you know either of the prisoners? - No, I knew neither of them they had both handkerchiefs over their faces, one rode a black horse, and the other a hay or chesnut, or some such colour, and they were both dressed in black coats or something dark; the man on the righthand side, I think, was on the black horse; nothing more passed on that occation; I came to town on Monday morning, and very soon after I was sent for to Bow-street, and there I saw the watch and the two men that are now at the bar, when I was at Bow-street, there were two Horses in the street, the magistrate desired me to go and look at these two horses, and I returned and said, that they seemed to me to be the same colour, but I could not swear to the horses.


I am Mr. Denison's coachman; driving my master home on Saturday seven-night last in the evening, just as I got to the eleven mile stone, two men came up and presented a pistol and ordered me to stop, one of them went before the horses and the other to the right hand

side of of the carriage, I heard the man on the right hand demand my master's money and watch, and the man on the left hand kept continually casting to me to keep my head the other way, then they rode off, I could not make any more observation of them, they galloped away as fast as ever they could; I did not perceive them half a minute before they came up with me, the man that came to the right hand side of the carriage had a silk handkerchief over his face, and the other appeared to have something up to his nose, so that I could not see positively; when I came to Bow-street on Thursday following. on the second examination, the Justice desired me to go and look at the horses, and I did, but the chesnut mare I could not say nothing to, the black horse I believe to he the horse, but I could not be certain of it, it seemed to me to be the same make and rather knuckled before.


I am an officer of the parish of St. Pancras. From several informations that I had, I went after the two prisoners at the bar, and I saw them go out two or three times, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday the 5th. On Saturday I saw them come in to the Red lion inn, Tottenhamcourt-road, about a quarter or ten minutes before eleven o'clock, they were on horseback, Wood was on a black gelding on the left hand, James Sample was on a chesnut more; I ran across the road with Croker and went and apprehended the two prisoners, I took Wood into custody myself, I searched him, he had nothing on him but two half crown pieces, and two six-pences.

Q. Any fire arms? - None at all. Groker searched the other.

Q. Did you take any particular notice of the black gelding? - The black gelding is the same that Mr. Denison and the containing in.


I was at the apprehending of the two prisoners, I saw them go out in the afternoon about five o'clock on Saturday the 9th of July, they went out from the Red Lion, Tottenham-court-road, somewhere there, or the eabouts; one was mounted on a black dark horse, and the other on a sort of sorrel or chesnut. When they came in, Hatch and I went from the house with Johnson, we went off towards them, immediately as they came up to the stable door, Sample went between the two horses and made his escape, I left Hatch with Wood and pursued him with Johnson into Goudge street, from that into John street, and from that into Pitt street, I called out stop thief! and he was stopped there, I went immediately and laid hold of him, I took him to a public house and there I was informed that he had thrown something down an area, I found about him two guineas, nine half crowns, thirteen shillings and eight six-pences, and a remarkable Queen Ann's sarthin, and some other halfpence; I then went where I was informed he had thrown something down an area in Pitt-street, by the place where he was stopped at, I asked whether any thing had been thrown down there? they told me yes, there was two watches the servant had picked them up; the servant was bound before the magistrate but we could not get her forward, I went into the area myself, and there I saw some pieces of glass myself of watches, which I picked up. They were both secured till Monday morning when they were taken before the magistrate, Sample was dressed in black as he is now, and Wood had on a sort of a clergyman's grey, a sort of a Mixture, I brought them to Bow-street on the Monday, and there were informations there concerning several robberies.

Mr. Denison. This is my watch, and at the time I lost it, there was another seal to it with my cypher, and my crest over the cypher.

Mr. Knowlys to Croker. Wood he stood and acted as an honest man? - I left Wood extremely quiet with Hatch while I made the pursuit.

Q. You know a great many men; have not you known Wood from his infancy almost? - I have, and his father; and his father was a worthy gentleman too.

Q. Does Wood bear a good character? - I never knew that he was in any thing of this kind before; I believe he was brought up with his father a man of very great respectability, in the parish of St. Pancras.


On Friday the 4th of July, I lent Wood the black gelding, in the name of Smith, of Chancery-lane; it has never been returned yet; I live in Theobalds road; I lent it him for one day; it was between ten and eleven o'clock in the morning; he paid me for it before he went; he said he was going to Fairlock Fair, on Epping Forrest.

Q. Have you seen that gelding lately? - Yes, I saw it at Bow-street.

Q. To Croker, Did this man ever see the black gelding? - Yes.

Q. Was it the black gelding that Wood was upon? - Yes, and I shewed it to this witness.

Q. To How. Was that the gelding you lent to this man that called himself Smith, and turns out to be Wood? - Yes.

Prisoner Wood. I leave it to my counsel.

Prisoner Sample. The evening that they accuse me of this robbery, I was going to Lee Bridge, and Mr. Wood was going with me, and we returned back again; on our return Mr. Croker and these other men came to the inn gate and took hold of us; I walked away from the gate, and had left Wood with the two horses before they took me.

The prisoner Wood called eight witnesses who gave him a very good character.

Both not GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice LAWRENCE.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-39
VerdictNot Guilty

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412. JAMES SAMPLE and WIL-LIAM WOOD were again indicted for making an assault, on the King's highway, on the 5th of July , on James Helly, putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person, and against his will, a silver watch, value 2l. a steel watch chain, value 6d. two gold seals, value 13s. and ten shillings in monies numbered ; the goods and monies of James Helly .


On the 5th of last July, I was coming to town from Pinner, a little before nine o'clock, just as I entered Harrow Hill-common , I saw two men, one mounted on a black horse, and the other on a chesnut crop; as I went by them there was one standing watering his horse in a pond, the other was standing on a bank just opposite him, about ten or fifteen yards distant, I went between the two, and as I was going up the hill, from the pond, I looked over the back of my chaise, I was in a single horse chaise; I saw the person that was on the bank setting on the chesnut crop, go down into the pond to the other, who was watering his horse; after they had stood the value of a minute in the pond they both turned out of the pond, and came away to Stan

more; as soon as I had rose on the hill, as I was going up there was another fall, I did not get above half way down that, before I was over taken by these two men that were on their horses, that I had gone by, one of them, the man on the black horse, rode and catched hold of my horse by the head; the other came up to the side of the chaise to me, and demanded my money; I said, my friend, behave with decency, what little money I have you shall have. There was a lady in the chaise along with me; I gave him about ten shillings; give me your watch, he says; I told him I had never a watch; he says, d-mn you, I know you have a watch, or some thing to that purpose, make haste and give it me, or else I will blow your brains out. I pulled my watch out and gave it, it was a silver watch with a steel chain, two gold seals, one with the impression of a head, and the other my own name in a cypher. After I had given my watch they turned up the hill, and went back again the way they came; they had both dark handkerchiefs over their faces, and both dressed in dark clothes, both in black, I took them to be. I see my watch again at Bow-street, on the Thursday after I was robbed.


I know nothing more than what I have already said,(see the former trial) except that I found also a silk handkerchief on Wood.

Q. To Helly. Did you observe particularly the handkerchief that they had over their faces? - They were both dark coloured handkerchiefs of that sort.


(Gave his evidence the same as on the former trial, and produces a watch, the other of the two that were thrown into the area.)

Prosecutor. This is my watch, chain, and seals; the glass is broke, and the minute hand off; this is the watch I delivered to the person who robbed me.


I was in company with the other officers; I know nothing more.

ROBERT HOW sworn.(Gave his evidence as on the former trial.)

Q. To Hatch. Did you carry the horse, on which you found the prisoner Wood, to Bow-street? - Yes, I did; Mr. How saw it there; I was present when he saw it.

Prisoner Sample. I have no other defence than what I made before.

Prisoner Wood. This is a malicious piece of business; Mr. Croker and Mr. Hatch are persons well known to take money of any one they can.

Both not GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-40
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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423. JAMES SAMPLE and WIL-LIAM WOOD were again indicted for making an assault, on the King's highway, on William Maynwaring , on the 5th of July , and putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person and against his will, a silver watch, value 2l. a steel watch chain, value 2d. a silver seal, value 1s. and three shillings and six-pence in monies numbered ; the goods and monies of William Maynwaring .


I was robbed the 5th of July, on the Harrow-road , about the one mile stone, as we were returning home, I and my wife, we were suddenly over taken by two horsemen, the one came on the right hand with a handkerchief over his face, and presented a pistol; I did not observe the colour of the horse that he was mounted on; it was some thing of a darkish coloured handkerchief, with palish spots in it; I turned my eyes to the left, and there was another man with the pistol; they rather provoked me than intimidated me; I got up and struck him on the head, and broke my whip handle, and then he on the other side put his pistol further in; my wife said, for God's sake don't fire, and I would deliver all I had; I then put my hand into my pocket, and took out three shillings and six-pence, which was all the silver I had; he said, give me your watch; so I took out my watch and gave it him; in consequence of that they both drew back their horses, and went off. The watch was found by the officer in Tottenham-court road, when the prisoners were taken in the evening.

Q. You did not observe how they were mounted? - I could not from the situation I was in; my attention was to see each pistol, whether they were going to fire or not, to avoid it; that on the left hand had no handkerchief over his

face; I did look at him, but I could not swear to him.

Q. Can you say positively that either of them is not the person? - I cannot say positively that they are not.


I am a constable. On the 5th of July, I apprehended Wood; after taking him into custody, I went over to the public house, the Red Lion, where I took him at the door, and the landlady gave me a silver watch.

HENRY CROKER sworn.(Deposed as on the former trial.)

ROBERT JOHNSON sworn.(Deposed the same.)

ROBERT HOW sworn.(Deposed also the same.)


I live at No. 3, Mount-row, Lambeth, I let out horses; I let out horses to the two prisoners at the bar, last Monday was three weeks; I have not had them since, only one, they were a chesnut mare and a chesnut horse that I let them have then, the prisoner Wood brought the chesnut horse on the Saturday following.

Q. In what name did he hire it? - In no name; the prisoner was recommended to me by the hostler of the Circus.

Q. Did you see your chesnut mare at Bow-street? - No, I saw it facing the Red Lion, in Tottenham-court-road; it was shewn me by the landlord of the house; I see it last night about half past seven; I believe it was at the White Hart.

Hatch. This mare is at the White Hart, Tottenham-court-road.

Q. To Croker. Did you see these two men go out? - Yes, I did; one on a black horse, and the other on a sort of a bay or sorrel.

Q. How were they dressed? - In dark or black.

Q. Did you observe when they came in, that either of these men had a blow on his head? - No, I did not observe that.


I live at the Red Lion. On the 5th of July last, hearing of a noise I went down to the door, and finding something under my feet, I stooped down and picked up a watch, and gave it to Mr. Hatch.

Q. How far was this from the Red Lion? - In the passage of the house.

Prosecutor. This is my watch, the watch I was robbed of; I have had it one and forty years.

Prisoner Sample. At the time Croker was calling stop thief, there was a man ran by me the same time, and I walked away from the horse, and left it along with Wood ten minutes before they took me.

Jury. How far was Wood from the place where the watch was found?

Hatch. About a yard and a half.

James Sample , GUILTY . Death .(Aged 30.)

William Wood , GUILTY. Death.(Aged 18.)

Recommended to mercy by the prosecutor, because they did not fire on them, though he broke the stick of his whip; and Wood was also recommended to mercy by the Jury, because of his general good character, as given on the former trial.

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-41
VerdictNot Guilty

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424. CHARLES COOPER was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of May , a watch with an inside case made of base metal, and an outside case of shagreen, value 2l. 2s. the goods of John Westmacott .


I am a collar and harness maker ; I live at No. 110, Goswell-street, in the house of Mr. Thomas Martin; my watch was taken out of the shop, it was hanging up in the shop, the 29th of May, Thursday, I saw it about ten minutes before twelve o'clock, that was the last time I saw it, in the day time; I did not see the prisoner take it. I have not seen it since indeed.

Q. How do you know the prisoner took it? - There was no other person in the shop when the watch was missing excepting him; he came and brought a pair of reins of a one horse chaise to fell; says he, these are a pair of old reins that my master gave me; says he, will you buy them? I said, I don't know, I will step and ask my master, who was in the yard at the back of the shop. I took them into my hand and went backward; my master said, they are not stolen goods, are they John? I said, I think not, because I know the person; I was absent about two or three moments, the prisoner followed me backwards; I cannot say that he was out of my sight; my master and he agreed for the goods. When I came forward, in less than five minutes after he was gone, I missed my watch.

Q. Did you see it hanging up when he was there? - Yes, I did.

Q. As to the shop door, is it kept open or shut? - There is a little half door with a bolt to it.

Prisoner. I leave it with my counsel.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-42
VerdictNot Guilty

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425. THOMAS DOYLE was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of June , five silver table spoons, value 4l. two silver desert spoons, value 10s. the goods of John Holland Mitchell , in his dwelling house .


I live in Portland place . About four or five weeks ago, on a Saturday, the prisoner came to my house, about half after seven in the morning, and enquired to speak with me on particular business, as my servant informed me; I was in bed, I did not see the servant till after the man had gone some time; when I came down to breakfast in the morning, about an hour or two after my servant gave me this paper; I have kept it ever since.

Q. Do you know the hand at all? - I do not.

Q. Do you know the name of the the person contained in it? - I do not.

Q. Do you know any thing that, it relates to? - No, I do not. I did not know that any thing was missing till five o'clock in the afternoon, when I found five table spoons were missing and two desert spoons; they were missing out of two knife cases, which were kept on the side board of the parlour.

Q. Did you ever recover them? - No, I have not. I really cannot ascertain the value of them at all.


I am the servant.

Q. Can you ascertain the value of these spoons? - I cannot.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-43

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426. THOMAS DOYLE was again indicted for stealing, on the 7th of June , three silver table spoons, value 1l. 10s. a silver gravy spoons, value 15s. a silver pepper castor, value 5s. the goods of Samuel Hillier , in his dwelling house .


I live in St. James's, Clerkenwell . On the 7th of June, my property was missed; the occurrence that happened my wife can speak to.


I am the wife of Mr. Samuel Hillier . The prisoner came to my house, on Saturday the 7th of June, about half an hour past seven in the morning, No. 20, Clerkenwell Close; he came with a loud knock at the door, and asked the maid servant if Mr. Hillier was at home? - I heard him; she said he was, he was not stiring; I heard her say that to him; I then spoke to her out of the parlour, and asked what the gentleman wanted? he said he wanted to speak to Mr. Hillier on particular business, from a Mr. Orchard, in Hatton-street, or Hatton-garden, I cannot say which; I then repeated that Mr. Hillier was not stirring; he said his business was very particular, and he must see him; I then went to the door, asked him into the room, and asked him to sit down, and I would call Mr. Hillier; he sat down in an arm chair, close by the closet door in the parlour, exactly at the door that opens into a kind of beauset; I went up to Mr. Hillier; when I came down, he was sitting in the chair, I told him Mr. Hillier would wait on him immediately, and then left the room; in about a minute after, he got up, and he said, he could not stay, he had particular business with an attorney. I had only gone into the other room with the door open, he was in view at that time; he went out, by then he had shut the door, Mr. Hillier came down, he said, he knew no such person as Mr. Orchard, I had had a sharper with me; Mr. Hillier opened the door of the closet, he did not perceive he had lost any thing; but I looked after him, I suppose, in the space of two or three minutes, and I missed a gravy spoon, three table spoons, and a small pepper castor. I can speak to the value of them.

Q. Was he dressed as a sailor, as he is now? - O, no, very genteelly dressed.

Prisoner. I wish to know whether she could indemnisy my person at the house at that time? - I am positive as to his person, and his voice without seeing his person.

Q. What particular marks have I got in my person? - There is a gentleman that comes to my house, that, at first sight, I took him for.

Q. Only them circumstances? Then you cannot pretend to speak, but I may be that gentleman? - O, yes; I know it is not by your voice.

ANN COOK sworn.

I am servant to Mr. Hillier; I saw the prisoner the 7th of June, on a Saturday; last month, about half past seven in the morning; he knocked with a loud knock at the door; I went immediately and opened the door; he asked me if Mr. Hillier was at home? I answered him, he was not in the way; I went immediately into the parlour and called my mistress, and my mistress came out; and he asked her if Mr. Hillier was at home? She said he was not stirring; she asked what it was o'clock? I looked and told her that it was half past seven; she asked him into the parlour, and said she would call him. I went immediately down into the kitchen, I heard my mistress go up stairs, she returned down in about two minutes; I was not in the parlour to hear what past; he went out by himself, I did not let him out, I was below stairs;

I put the spoons in the ever night, between the hours of ten and eleven o'clock, they were all in a closet in the parlour, in a knife case; I was in the parlour five minutes after this person went out of the house, when they were missing; I was not certain of the pepper castor being in over night, I did not put that in, but the other things I did.

Q. Were there any spoons left behind? - One table spoon. There was no person in the house but the prisoner at the bar, from the time that I put them in the closet till I missed them. They have never been found.

Prisoner. Pray how do you know my person? - I took particular notice of him, he was not dressed as he is now, he had his hair tied.

Q. Was my hair powdered? - A little powder in it.

Q. Mrs. Hillier, I think, in her evidence, said, that my hair was dressed? - It was dressed and powdered; I knew his person the moment I saw him, on the 24th, at the New Prison. My master went to the New Prison, and he came back again, and I went back with him to know if I knew him; he was shewn me in a little room, just going into the prison.

Prisoner. Mr. Hillier, and Mr. Roberts, the keeper of the New Prison, are acquainted.

Court to Witness. Had you any doubt about his person at that time? - Not in the least.

Q. Are you equally sure now? - I am positive.

Q. Do you know any thing of the spoons that are missing? - I don't know the value of them.

Q. To Mrs. Hillier. Did you see this man before you have seen him now? - I see him in New Prison-yard; I see his back, and Mr. Roberts called him; and he answered with an oath, that he was coming; and I said, that is the man, I do not desire to see him. I was sure it was the same.

Q. To Mr. Hillier. Did you know the spoons were missing yourself? - Yes, by looking into the cupboard. I have had the fellow gravy spoon weighed, and the fellow of one of the table spoons, and the silversmith told me that the weight of the gravy spoon was better than sixteen shillings, the price of old silver; and the table spoon twelve shillings the single one; and the pepper castor five shillings, I value them altogether at fifty shillings.

Prisoner. Mrs. Hillier said they were loose in the cupboard, and the servant said they were in a case.

Mrs. Hillier. I did not say they were loose.

Court to Hillier. Do you know Mr. Orchard? - No, I do not; there is such a person, I believe, in Hatton-garden; but he is no acquaintance of mine at all.

GUILTY . Death . (Aged 20.)

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-44
VerdictNot Guilty

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427. JOHN HANLEY was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of June , a pair of kerseymere breeches, value 6s. the goods of David Evans , privately from his person .


I am a breeches-maker and taylor ; I work for myself a little, because I could not get work, work being slack; I had a customer down in the City, and I had been waiting on the gentleman, the 12th of last June; coming from the gentleman, up the Hay-market with two pair of breeches under my arm, from the gentleman of whom I had them to alter; one pair was a pair of thin kerseymere without lining, the other pair was thick cord; coming up the Hay-market I had

them both under my arm; there was a good many people standing about a public house door, and a young man stepped up to me, and hallooed after me, taylor, will you make me a pair of breeches? so I replied I would; so he asked me where I lived; I gave him a ticket where I lived; he told me he would call at four o'clock; on that we had a pot of beer; I sat on the bench before the public house door, there were three men on my right hand, and two on my left, and my breeches were under my right arm; so we drank the pot of beer between five or six I suppose, and I went home.

Q. Was you drunk at all? - No, I was not, I went home and throwed the breeches on the chair, the two pair as I thought, but when I got to them I missed the kerseymere, which was in the middle of the thickset; I ran back immediately, then down to the Hay-market, to the same place, and meeting a young man at the door. an acquaintance of mine, I asked him to come into the house with me, when we came into the tap-room there they were sitting in the tap-room, the prisoner was one; then the young man asked me if I knew them people? I said, I never knew the min my life before. I found the breeches again, the Wednesday following, they were at a pawnbroker's; I took the prisoner up the Thursday following, just a week after, at the same public house; I found my breeches a fortnight after; I took the prisoner before I found the breeches.

Q. How came you to take him? - Because the young man that was with me heard him say that he went with them to pawn them.


I am a pawnbroker, I took these breeches in the 12th of June, of John Williams , I don't recollect the time of the day, I don't recollect the man, I gave him a duplicate; I have kept the breeches till now.


I am a shoe-maker by trade, I was standing at the public house door in the Hay-market, at the time that this taylor came by, and I called to him, and asked him if he would make me a pair of breeches? he said he would, so he asked me whether he should take measure of me the same day; I told him I did not know whether he should or not, if he would give me directions where he lived I would call on him in the evening, or the morning following; we called for a pot of beer, and sat down between John Hanley, and two or three more, and I happened to see an acquaintance going down the Hay-market, I went along with him to the bottom of the Haymarket; against I returned I found this gentleman gone off, I heard the taylor was gone home, and there was a great dispute between the prisoner and two more that were there, about parting what they had got; the prisoner went into the house and gave the other two part of four pots of beer; they wanted part of the money for the breeches that he had got, and the prisoner would not give any, so there was a great dispute for some time, whether he would part with any money or with any property that he had got; he said he would not part with a farthing-worth, he had found a pair of breeches, and why should he run after any body with them; the next day he asked me to go part of the way with him to the pawnbroker's, I went with him, and stopped about twenty yards from the pawnbroker's, till he came out, I did not see the breeches with him.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-45

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428. DAVID ENGLISH was indicted for stealing, on the 7th of July , a man's saddle, value 10s. a man's great coat, value 5s. fifty printed pamphlets, value 5s. two horse bridles, value 2s. two sessings, value 4s. eight hempen halters, value 1s, five shoe brushes, value 4d. a tin oil kettle, value 4d. an iron hammer, value 6d. three horse cloths, value 4d. a pair of nippers, value 2d. a hempen sack, value 2d. and an iron padlock, value 4d. the goods of George Chinnock .


I am the wife of George Chinnock; I lost the articles in St. John's-street , they were in a sack, behind a one horse chaise. My husband talks of taking some stables in town, and he brings his things a little at a time; I was in the one horse chaise; the sack was tied behind the chaise with a saddle upon it; I came from Biggleswade, in Bedfordshire; I never see him take it, till the brewer's servant came and told me I was robbed; I was then just at the lower end of St. John's-street.

Q. Did this sack contain all that is in the indictment? - Yes, I believes, and more.

Q. Do you know that any of them were in the sack? - Yes; I saw a great coat put in. They have been in the constable's hands ever since.


I am a brewer's servant; I saw this lady in a chaise, in St. John street, Clerkenwell; I see her robbed, William Hanover and I had been drinking a pot of beer at our tap-house, just at the corner of Compton-street, in St. John's-street; we see a man cut the chaise, it was not the prisoner that cut it first, it was another man, that I cannot tell who it was; he went on the pavement again to the other; him that was along with me says, did you see that? I see the man attempt to cut behind that chaise. Then we followed down half down the narrow way of St. John's-street, and then we see this man cut at it again; then the prisoner took it from behind the chaise, and we took him with the property in his arms; he was going from the chaise with it; we took him before he got on the pavement; then I gave it to the other man to hold while I went and stopped the chaise with the lady; I asked the lady whether she had any thing tied behind the chaise? she said she had; I asked her what it was? she said a sadule with a sack. The man that was along with me took care of the sack, while I went with the prisoner to the watch house.

Prisoner. He has been saying very false? - It is all as true as I am alive.

Prisoner. When these men were together, they wanted to know whether they could not acquit a person for such a thing as that, for the sake of the forty pounds.


I am a cow-keeper; I was in company with the last witness; I saw the prisoner take the property from the chaise; I stopped the prisoner. Joseph Ballard gave notice to the lady; she was in a kind of chair. I took care of the property and kept it till such times my partner went and stopped the chaise; afterwards I took it on my back to the watch-house.

Q. What time of the day did this happen? - A little before ten o'clock at night.

- PARKER sworn.

I am the constable of the night; the sack was brought to me, it has been in my possession ever since; it is here.

Prosecutrix. It is my property all of it.

Prisoner. I had been up to say brother that I work for, and coming back again I saw this sack laying in the road, and I went and picked it up directly; picking it up I was hardly on the pavement with it when these men came and asked me whose it was? I told them I did not know rightly; they asked me what I was going to do with it? I told them I was going to take it to the next public house to leave it there, and enquire who owned it.

GUILTY . (Aged 25.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-46
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence
SentenceNo Punishment > sentence respited

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429. WILLIAM PLUMMER was indicted for stealing, on the 9th of July , two wheelbarrows, value 3s. the goods of William Timmings .


I am a servant to Mr. William Timmings ; he lives close by Bethnall Green Church. On the 10th of this month, about ten minutes after five, I went into my master's field, and the men could not go to work for want of two barrows that were stole; in about five minutes after a man came down, and told me that the barrows, and the man that took them, were in the watch-house; one of the barrows belonged to Mr. Samuel Scott, and one to my employer, but they were both in my master's use; I see them in the watch-house, and I have seen them since; they are not brought here. I know my master's barrow very well, by one of the thimbles that the wheel goes in, being rivetted down; the middle of the barrow and wheel was pitched.

Q. How many barrows has your master got? - About eight or nine in use.

Q. Do you think that you can safely swear that it was your master's barrow? - I have sworn it three times now.

Q. What time was it you see this that morning? - Within five minutes of seven o'clock. I never see the prisoner before that morning he was at the watch-house, that morning I saw him, but I did not speak to him, nor he to me.

- BAKER sworn.

I am field clerk to Mr. Scott, he is a brick-maker and a tile-maker.

Q. Did you see these barrows in the prisoner's possession? - I did not; I see them in the watch-house, at seven o'clock or a little after.

Q. Did you know Mr. Timmings's barrow? - I did; there is a new rivett put in by the side of it, and it is new pitched.


I am a labouring man, sometimes I work in the brickfields; I was standing talking at an acquaintance's door, and this man was coming out of my master's field with two barrows, and I stopped him; the field comes into a street; he came into the street with it, it was between ten and eleven at night, and I sent for a light, and while I was looking at the marks of the barrows, he ran away, and I ran after him, and catched him; I asked him where he had brought them from? he said, he brought them from Islington; I said, that was an odd thing to come that way from Islington.

Q. Is that the road from Islington? - No. I carried him to the watch-house; I never see the man before in my life that I know of; the wheel barrows were taken to the watch-house, I see the same wheel barrows there the next morning and the prisoner, I am not a labour

er to Mr. Timmings; I don't know to whom the barrow belongs. The next morning I see Mark and Baker at the watch-house.

Q. Did Mr. Mark or Baker claim Mr. Timmings's wheelbarrow? - Yes, they did in the hearing of the prisoner; there were two there the next morning, and those were the two that I took from the prisoner; he had got them one on the other.

Prisoner. I worked the other side of the water at brick making, and they were standing still for water, and I came over this side of the water to see some of my acquaintances, and I had been higher up the road, and had stopped there the evening a drinking; returning home at night I met a man that stopped me and asked me if I would drink, and he asked me whether I had a mind to earn a shilling? if I had there was a couple of barrows that he wanted to be wheeled round to the King's Head, in Kingstand-road, and she told me he should be round there as soon as I was, and if I was not, he would wait for me; and I stopped at my wife's father's, and dallied a little time drinking with him; after that I went into the field and saw two barrows, and took them out to wheel them into the road, and I was stopped. The man who asked me was a mere stranger to me, but he appeared as if he worked in the field. My relations are all gone down into Kent.

GUILTY, Of stealing one barrow, value twelve-pence.

Judgment respited .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-47
VerdictNot Guilty

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430. WILLIAM BROWN was indicted for that he, together with John Ekars , on the 21st of February , 1792, in the parish of St. Lukes, Middlesex , on William Norman , an excise officer , in the execution of his office, in seizing one hundred pounds weight of tobacco liable to be seized, did violently and unlawfully make an assault, and did unlawfully hinder, oppose, and obstruct him in the execution of his office .

Indicted in a second COUNT for assaulting and forcible hindering him in the execution of his duty when on shore.

And a third COUNT for forcibly obstructing omitting the assault.(The indictment opened by Mr. Knowlys and the case by Mr. Fielding.)


I am an excise officer, I was so on the 11st of February, 1792. On that day between the hours of eleven and twelve in the forenoon, I was going along Old-street and I met a cart, and found John Ekars and William-Brown in the cart, I knew William Brown six years before, I surveyed poplar three years close by his house; I have been in a public house with him twenty different times, the Green Dragon; I knew him very well, the cart drove on as far as the corner of Golden-lane; Ekars got out of the cart, and when he got out of the cart I had an opportunity of passing by to see what was in the cart, I saw several bags, four or five, it seemed to me to be tobacco, and there were five or six half anchors in the cart, when I passed by Ekars gave Brown the whip and said drive on gently, I will go before and see that it is clear, they drove about twenty or thirty doors further in the street, to the door of Richard Wiseman , an entered dealer in tobacco, when he drove up close to the door, Brown unbuttoned the leather on the further side of the cart, Ekar's was in

Wisemans shop. I turns round the cart and looks in and see some bags and a large W marked on most of the anchors, he was stooping down tumbling the half anchors towards Wiseman's door; I put my hand into one of the bags, and my hand came out all rappee snuff, this I did while Brown was stooping down, he did not perceive me, and at the same time I secured the rein of the horse and I said to Brown, pray, sir, what have you got in the cart? he immediately looks about at me and said, d-mn your eyes what is that to you? then he took the whip up and first of all he began to slog the horse to get off, it was a very good horse, the horse sprung but I had hold of the rein, and then he began to slog me with the thong of the whip, every stroke brought the skin off; my hat dropped off, I lost my hat, never saw it after, the mob took it away; I told him the consequence of obstructing me in my duty, and I told him what he had got in his cart, and that he had got smuggled goods, I knew him to be a smuggler for a great many years; on my telling him that, he kept on slogging me the more, then the horse, then me, till we got opposite the public house, when the horse sprung very violently against the windows and knocked in four or five panes of glass with the shafts, when he sees that, he turns the butt end of his whip and steps out to the shaft and struck me several times on the head, and gave me one blow which cut me two inches along here; the publican, Nixon, just then came to the door and I begged him to assist me, that I was an officer, and I found the blood come all over me and blinded me, in the contest I got the whip from him into my hand, with my pulling it the covering of the butt end rather slipped, and I saw the lead cast about the end of the whip some inches in length; Mr. Nickson unclinched my hands at last, being afraid I should be killed, and took me into the house, and the horse and cart drove away; Mr. Nickson laid hold of me and laid hold of Ekars, and said, I will be paid for the damage done, before I let any of you go; Ekars said, I will call another time, and pay for the windows, let me go, and he went away over a wall into a back alley.

Q. The indictment was not preferred till last May? - It was not.

Q. Have you made any search after him from the time that you received she injury? - I have a dozen times, both with myself and the runners; the first time we went of a Sunday morning, and we watched about to see if we could see any thing of him, and we went to Brown's house, and the people knew me. In short we never could find him.

Q. How long was you confined after this affair? - I was very ill, I could not do my duty for sometime; and there are the clothes I had on, that are nothing but blood all over; and sometimes I am affected now with the change of weather, the bone of my head is hurted as well as the slesh.

Mr. Const. You say you knew Brown long? - Yes.

Q. Therefore it is not likely you will be mistaken in him? - No.

Q. And, I think, you never saw him from that time till this last fortnight? - Yes, I saw him going into Mr. Nelson's, in Whitechapel, but I had not the warrant with me.

Q. Did you see him soon after this transaction? - No, not for some time.

Q. Do you remember when you saw him first after this happened? - In Whitechapel, about half a year afterwards.

Q. You never saw him without knowing him of course? - No.

Q. Then you could not have seen him and been with him, and yet not know him, since that time? - No, I could not.

Q. Did you, in the course of all this business, speak to him by his name? - I

am not sure; I said, I know you very well, and you will suffer for it.

Q. You know Ekars, the other man, very well? - Yes, and I knew Brown very well, and knew him tried for the same offence once before.

Q. Of course, as you surveyed so long where he lived, he knew you? - I cannot say that.

Q. According to your apprehension, did not Brown know you? - I cannot say that. He knows I very near catched him with four or five and thirty bags of tobacco, and he turned about and carried the goods into the country again.

Q. Though they knew you was an excise officer, yet Ekars said he would go and see that it was all clear before he would take it out? - Yes, he did.

Q. This was at twelve o'clock in the day, was there any body there that day? - Yes, a great many.

Q. Of course you have got some of these people here? - I have not.

Q. Then you never was sitting down drinking with him at any public house? - Never, from that time to this; I have never been in a house with him since the transaction; I went into a house where Ekars sat drinking, but as soon as I went in he went out, but Brown was not there.

Q. Do you know one Nuby? - Yes.

Q. Do you remember meeting Nuby on this business? - Yes, at the Duke of Clarence's, Newport-street.

Q. Who was with him? - One Hughes.

Q. Was there no one else? - Nobody that I knew, nobody that had any thing to say about this business.

Q. Now do you remember saying concerning these people, that you knew one to be Ekars, but the other you could not be sure to? - I never said any such thing of the kind.

Q. It is unnecessary to ask you whether Brown was in company at that time? - He was not, I did not see him.

Q. How you might be quarters they sent for me in order business by a petition.

Court. Nuby came to you with some propositions on the part of Brown and Ekars? - Yes, and I told him that I could not say any thing to it, the board of Excise had got it in their hands, and whatever they mean to do I was agreeable.

Mr. Knowlys. Look at this petition? - This is the first petition of Ekars and Brown. (The petition read.)

Jury. Was it perfectly understood by Brown that you was an officer of the Excise before any scuftle took place? - I told him at the first that I was an Excise officer, and would shew him my commission, I said that immediately as I laid hold of the horse's head, before any blow was given.


I keep the King's Head, in Golden-lane, I did in the year 1792; I remember the transaction of this man, Norman, he was very much hurt, and bled violently; I expected he would be killed, he had a cut about the left side of his head, and his face very much scratched, and cut besides; I dare say there was three pints of blood about the floor, it was all over me, and over my handkerchief, and over every thing in the place.

Mr. Const addressed the jury on the part of the desendant.


Q. I believe you was employed to present a petition; who did you prepare it for? - I understood that Mr. Norman had agreed to settle the matter, if the commissioners had no objection. Brown always denied the assault, and Ekars was to have paid the expence.

Q. Was Brown a party in that petition? - Brown was, but without any idea of his being any party in the transaction.


I am a ship builder in Essex, sixty miles from London.

Q. Do you remember entering into an agreement with one Nunn, to build a vessel for him? - I do, this is the agreement, it was written at the time, it bears date the 20th of February, 1792.

Q. Do you know Brown the desendant? I do, he was a subscribing witness, he was there several days before them, and I parted with him one or two days after, I cannot say which, at Colchester, two days after, I think it was about eleven o'clock.

Q. Do you remember what time of the day this agreement was entered into? - In the afternoon between three and four o'clock or thereabouts.

Q. Do you remember whether you saw him certainly on the day after? - Yes, and several days before, and he was at my house till I went to Colchester, from the time that he signed that agreement, never away.

Court. From the time of signing the agreement where did he go? - It was executed between three and four in the afternoon, he slept with me that night, the next day he break fasted at my house, and I am not certain whether he went to Colchester that day or the day after.

Mr. Fielding. Who drew this agreement? - I did.

Q. When did you write it? - I wrote it the day it was dated.

Q. What was the business that man had at Colchester? - He went with Mr. Dowsey, a gentleman, for whom I was building a cutter.

Q. When was it you was called upon to produce this here? - About three weeks ago.

Q. Was any thing ever said to you before that time about this agreement? - None at all.

Q. You never heard a syllable about this till about three weeks ago? - I did not. Mr. Brown came down to me about three weeks ago, he asked me if I recollected the Betsy being launched? I told him I did; he asked me if I remembered his being there with Mr. Dowsey? I told him I did; he asked me if I recollected his signing an agreement? I told him I did.

Mr. Const. Do you always write your own agreements? - Yes, it is only a bit of a memorandum, I have a book that I write them all in, this is a leaf of the book, Brown wrote for me to send the book, I could not spare the book, and so I tore out the leaf.

JOHN NUNN sworn.

Q. Do you remember on the 20th of February being at the house of kit. Sainty's? - I do, in the year 1792.

Q. Look at that agreement and see whether you remember it at all? - That is my hand writing, it was signed on the day it was dated.

Q. Was Mr. Brown, the desendant at the bar, there at that time? - Yes, he was there; I never saw him before in my life, to my recollection; he was there with another gentleman.

Mr. Fielding. Nor since perhaps? - Yes, several times; I have seen him with one Mr. Dowsey since.

Q. How long was it after you signed any agreement that you saw the prisoner at the bar? - Several months; I cannot exactly say to a month or day.

Q. Where do you live now? - At Widnow.

Q. How long have you been in town? - About a week.

Q. What brought you up to town? - About this cause.

Q. So that about a week ago you received an intimation that you should be wanted in this cause? - No About a fortnight ago I saw Mr. Sainty, he informed me of it, he asked me whether I recollected the person that signed my agreement when I agreed for that vessel.

Q. Did any body else apply to you? - No.

Q. Have you seen any body else on this affair before you came into this court here? Was not you in company with Brown this morning before he came here? - I quartered at the Bell Inn, in Whitechapel; I saw him here before he came into court.

Q. You were at the public house together? - I came from the Bull Inn, in Whitechapel, and I walked along behind them.

Q. Was you of the party that came here this morning? - I was.

Q. Had you any conversation with Brown concerning this? - Not a syllable no further then his asking me if I remembered signing the agreement.

Mr. Fielding. When did you see the gentleman that stands here, Mr. Jenkinson? - I see him this morning.

Q. When did you see him before? - I see him Wednesday, that was the first time.

Q. Did Sainty produce the agreement to you at any time? - Yes, about a fortnight ago.

Q. Was it in a book at that time? - It was in a leaf; he brought the book to my house, and as he held it in his hand and turned i over leaf by leaf, he asked if I remembered that, and whether I had got the counter part.

Q. What sort of a book was this? - A Petty large book.

Mr. Const. He shewed it you in the book, in this place where you left it, and asked you whether you had got the counter part? - He did.

Court What time of the day was this agreement signed? - Between the hours of two and four, as near as I can guess.

Q. Where was it signed? - At Mr. Sainty house.

Q. At what part of the house? - In the parlour.

Q. Who was present besides? - There was one Mr. Dowsey present, and one James Roach, who signed the agreement with me.

Q. Did you get a copy of this agreement?I had a copy of the agreement.

Q. Was that copy attested by any body? - Yes, by Roach.

Q. Who was witness besides? - Mr. Brown.

Q. Have you got that copy? - No, I have not, I thought no more of it after the vessel was built and paid for.

Q. What did you do with it? - I don't know whether I might not wipe my backside with it.

Q. Have you ever looked for it? - No, I never have; I did not make any reserve of such a thing.

Q. Before a man swears he has not a thing that is material, he generally looks for it? - I did not know that I should be called upon to prove a witness signing his name.

Court to Sainty. About what time of the day was this deed executed? - After three or four o'clock

Q. Whereabouts was it? - In one of my parlours, where we always keep.

Q. Was there a counter part of this? - Yes, there was.

Q. Who signed that? - The same parties, one John Roach, who is now at Sea, and the prisoner Brown.

Q. Did you ever ask Nunn if he had that paper? - Brown asked him, and I believe he said hello it.

Q. I perceive there is no stamp on this agreement? - It is no agreement, only a memorandum

Q. When was this leaf torn out of the book? - About three week back

Q. This is more than a memorandum, and you are punish him for it. Did you shew Nunn your agreement? - I shewed it to him in the book before I tore it out, about three weeks back, at the time that Mr. Brown came down; I cannot say to the day, it was reabouts.

Q. Could you not have brought your book here? - I did not know it was of that account, or otherwise I would have brought it.


Q. You are an acquaintance of Mr. Brown's, I understand? - Yes.

Q. You knew Mr. Bkars that is since dea - I did very well.

Q. Do you remember the application you made to the prosecutor, Mr. Norman? - Yes.

Q. Do you remember being with him at the Clarence's Head? - I do.

Q. Do you remember who was in the room with you? - There was another man along with me, and Mr. Brown was there a little while, about five or six minutes, and drank a pint of beer.

Q. During the time that Brown was in company, did Norman talk about the person that assisted him? - Not at that time that Brown was there.

Q. At that time did he see Brown in of beer? - I should think so. He went in the other room positively.

Q. Did Norman see him in fact? - He was the same room with him, in the parlour.

Q. Did you tell him on whose account you applied? - I applied on Ekars account only; I did not apply for Brown.

Mr. Fielding. What business of life are you in? - I am a farmer at Poplar.

Q. That is the neighbourhood in which Brown lives? - Yes, he lives close by me.

Q. How long have you known Brown? - Sixteen or eighteen years.

Q. You knew him about February 1792? - I have known him ever since; I don't know particularly the time.

Q. From February 1792, how long was he absent from his home? - I believe I can tell by the account, because his horse grasses with me; I never knew him leave his house.

Q. Did not he leave his house about February 1792? - He might be away a week or more; or he might be at home a week.

Q. Then he was backward and forward the same as usual from February 1792, to March, April, and May, in the same year? - Clearly so.

Q. Do you know where he went in September 1792? - I do not.

Q. Do you know any petition that Brown sent to the commissioners of excise? - Ekars and Brown were together, I told him about being along with Norman; and Ekars said, what can we do? I said, the only thing that you can do, will be to try a petition; you had better have the opinion of your attorney on the business, and I dare say, Norman has no objection to settle it; and I said, that I dare say four or five guineas would make him easy; I said, you had better pay him that then go to law, and into extremities of that sort. They seemed rather to agree, as Norman said he would not be ill natured.

Q. At this time when you saw Norman at the Duke of Clarence, did Norman and you go into the house together? -

No, I believe I was in before him, and he came in afterwards.

Q. Had you appointed to meet there? - Yes.

Q. When he came into the house, he and you fell into conversation? - Not immediately.

Q. How were you engaged before he fell into conversation with you? - We had some rum and water, and he had to go away to some brick fields.

Q. Who was the other person? - One Hughes.

Q. Where do you think Brown was at that time? - Brown was sitting in the tap room at that time.

Q. Then Norman came into the room where you was, and he did not stay very long? - He staid a good while; Brown came into the parlour and came in at the door, and had a pint of beer; he was desired to withdraw, and he did withdraw.

Q. Did Norman and he speak? - No, I don't know that they spoke at all.

Q. When was this? - I cannot tell the day, I am sure.

Q. How long ago? - A good while ago; I think it was some time last summer; I cannot particularly say; we met twice.

Q. Brown did not meet him twice? - No.

Q. So that you mean merely to speak as to guess, that Norman might see Brown? - Certainly, I cannot swear that he did see him, but he was as plain to him as you are to me.

Court to Norman. How came Ekars not be taken into custody before he died? - The runners were after him, but we could never take him. When I first went into the public house I went into the parlour, the door was shut fast, and me and another were sitting drinking of a pot of beer. After that Mr. Nuby came in, but Mr. Brown was not there indeed, he might be in she tap room, I did not go through the tap room; but on my oath he was not in the parlour.

Mr. Fielding replied on the part of the prosecution.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-48
SentenceMiscellaneous > fine

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I live at Wapping , I live servant to a public house, the sign of the Phoenix; two women came in for a pint of beer, and I was mending my gown, and I laid it down while I went to draw a pint of beer, and when I came up my gown was gone.

Q. Did you know her before this? - No.


I keep the house, I was out in the evening, and came in while the piece of work was, and took this gown from the prisoner the next morning, in an iron shop offering it for sale.

Farr. This is my gown? - I have got a piece of the same.

Prisoner. I was in company with the woman drinking a pint of beer; the other woman desired me to pawn it, and I had a suspicion that she had not come honestly by it, and I kept it all night; the next morning I carried it openly in the street to pawn it, and I was taken in the street with it.

GUILTY . (Aged 43.)

Fined 1s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
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422. ANN BARNARD was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 12th of July , a linen sheet, value 3s. a linen shift, value 2s. a callico bed curtain value 6d. half a yard of flannel, value 1d. the goods of William Lovett .


I live at Hackney . William Lovett is my husband; I went out about half past four o'clock, last Saturday morning, to go to Spitalfields Market, and I came home; the room that I live in, the lodgers in the house have got to go through that room into the garden; I know nothing of the prisoner; I did not know that I lost any thing till Mr. Sims brought them, and asked me if these things belonged to me, and I said, yes; he brought me a small window curtain, a sheet, a shift, and a piece of flannel; he brought them between nine and ten in the morning; I left them in my room when I went out.

Q. Was your room locked up when you came home? - Yes, and I found it locked; it is on the ground floor, looks into the garden.

Q. How was the window of the room when you went out? - it was fast, and it was when came home.

Q. Where had you left the key of the room when you went out? - In a little box that I have got ba dde of the door, for the lodgers to take to go through into the garden, I am perfectly sure. I left the things in the room that morning.


About nine o'clock Saturday morning, went to prisoner's shop, a few doors from where stay this was a the prisoner, things to sale, at Hackney, the man go to the shop, he say Sims these things; I said to her go along with me, my will buy mean. I took into my house, and I said, I must detain you, these things are not your property; she told me they were her mother's things at first, then afterwards she said she brought them from a woman in Hoxton; I sent for a constable, and we put her in the Cage, and I went and searched according to the marks of the linen, to find out an owner, and the third house I went to, Mrs. Lovett owned them as her property.

Prosecutrix. These are my property; I left them behind me when I went out in the morning. They are worth five shillings and six-pence.

Prisoner. I bought these things of a woman, in Hackney; I gave her seven shillings for them. I get my bread by buying and selling old clothes.

GUILTY . (Aged 28.)

Imprisoned twelve months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice LAWRENCE.

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The prisoner was hired by he of our head the mad, at Hackney.


I know nothing further; than that the were taken on him, I saw him the baskets contained these am the wife of Mr. Burden;

our servant took him and brought him into our house; he was brought in from the garden; the baskets remained till the constable came; they were unpacked at the time; they were found to contain in one basket, half a dozen of knives and forks, three or four glass salts, and two or three jelly glasses; they were wrapped up in some cloths. In the other basket there jelly glasses; they were wrapped up in some cloths. In the other basket there were ten bottles of wine, and brandy, and different liquors. He behaved in such a rude manner that we sent for a constable; had he acknowledged, we should have forgiven him.

Prisoner Pray, ma'am, did you ever observe me to behave amiss to you that night? - He behaved exceedingly bad.


I was the man that took the prisoner; I was at work all day, the 5th of July, to assist the cook in the kitchen; I am a servant to Mr. Burden; about half past nine at night, I went to take a walk in the garden, and I put my coat on, and the company were got out of doors by candle light, pitching some silver in a hole; when I went into the garden I see the prisoner come out of the bottom of the garden with these two baskets, one on each side of him; I thought he had got some of the empty bottles that laid about the garden, and that he was going to put them in the bottle warehouse; I stopped to see where he would go with them; I thought they had been empty; and instead of his going to the rack with them, I see him go into the back lane with them, from the house.

Q. Did he go through the house? - No, he did not go into the house at all; he went up the lane, by the highway, into the street, about one hundred yards from the Mermaid, I called to him, when he was going into the street with them, down from my master's premises, and asked him what he had got in the basket? and he gave me no answer; the second time I got up to him, and I said hold of him by the collar, and said that he had got some of my master's property; and he said, no d-mn me, what business have you to stop me? they are none of your's. I brought him down to my master's house, and got him into a room, where the baskets were unpacked; one basket contained ten-bottles of wine of different forts, I cannot say whether there was any spirits; the other contained six knives and forks, four glass salts, and two jelly glasses. They were put into the officer's hands.

Prisoner. Where did you first take hold of me? - At the top of the lane, going into the highway of the street.

Q. Did not you take me at the bottom of the garden? Did not you say to me, you are drunk and don't know the way out, I will shew you the way; and you took me in doors; and Mr. Burden said to the gentlemen there, it is not my property, it is your's; and hey said, Mr. Burden, never mind, and Mr. Burden said, I will forgive him, if you will.


On the 5th of this month I was sent for, about half past ten, (I am an headborough) when I was sent for the liquor and glasses were on a table, in a little room, and I took and put them into the basket; there were ten bottles, six knives and six forks, four glass salts, and two jelly glasses; they are here. I took the prisoner into custody at the time; these things have been in my custody ever since, and they are the same that I took off the table.

Court to Williams. Were the glasses that you took out of the basket, the same that you took off the table? - Yes, they were.

Mrs. Burden. I am certain that these are our property.

Q. How came this man to be in your house this day? - He was hired by our head waiter. The West India merchants dined at out house that day, and we had ten or twelve occasional waiters that day.

Mr. Burden. The gentlemen of that society employed their own butler; we took the wine in of them, and gave tickets for the wine.


I know this wine; here is a bottle marked P. my marking.

Prisoner. I worked at Mr. Burden's, the head waiter hired me for the day; there were several other companies in the garden, and down at the Bowling green; I went down with four or five different gentlemen to the necessary, at the bottom of the garden; as I was coming up the 4th time there was one gentleman called to the gentleman that I was coming up with, and says, George, will you give me a bowl? he says, yes; and runs from me, and as I was coming up the walk I found these two baskets; immediately I took them up without looking into them at all, and brings them away from the tavern, and when I went back with the servant, Mr Burden then had these things opened, and he had some of the company into the room, and he said, sirs, this is not my property, it is your's, and he said to the gentlemen, if you will chuse to forgive him, I will. Accordingly I was put out of doors, and was coming away towards London being intoxicated with liquor; the gentlemen having forced the liquor on me.

GUILTY. (Aged 25.)

Judgment respited .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-51

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I am a linen draper , in partnership with John Simpson , he is no relation; I live in Welbeck-street, the property was taken from my servant in the street, John Banks.

Mr. Knowlys. Is there any body else concerned in the business but you and one Mr. John Simpson ? - No, nobody else at all.


I was fifteen the nineteenth of last May.

Q. Was you sent out with any parcels by your master Mr. Simpson? - Yes, and I lost one small parcel, it contained some muslin and dimity, I believe.

Prosecutor, He knew nothing what was in the parcel; it contained a yard of muslin and a yard of dimity.

Mr. Knowlys. Did you make up the parcel yourself? - Certainly.

Court to Banks. How did you lose it? - I was going down Dean-street, St. Ann's, Soho, with three parcels, two under my arm and one in my pocket; it was about one o'clock in the day; as I was coming within a few doors of Compton-street I found an attempt at the parcel in my pocket, it was tried to be taken out; I found three men about me, Isaac Langley was one of them, they were all about me, and one of them catched at it, but it was not out, I don't know which it was; then I felt at my pocket, and found the parcel there, then I walked on lower down, the men all kept on walking some before and some behind me; when I got within six doors of Compton-street they all surrounded me, the prisoner was one of them, but I

not hear any conversation pass between the prisoner and the other men, but I did with the other two, but they were all in company together from the first to the last; when I got within six doors of Compton street I found the attempt again, I turned about and found the parcel gone; they were all three together then, they were all walking on together, they all surrounded me together; before they made the second a tempt at the parcel, one of the other two said to the prisoner and the other, what is that market place there? and then I directly took hold of this man, and the other man went away I could not get hold of the others, I held him till twenty people came round me.

Q. Do you know which of the three it was hat made the first inatch? - It was not this man.

Q. Nothing was found on the prisoner? - No, nothing.

Mr. Knowlys. You had observation of him at the first to be able to be certain that he was not the person that made the first snatch? - No, I don't think he was.

Q. I believe, when you laid hold of this man, he went very readily with you to the justice's? - He asked me what I wanted with him? and went with me to the justice's.

Court. You said there was no conversation between the prisoner and the other two, but did not one of the other two, make some observation about the market place? - One said to the other two, what is that market place?

Q. I here were mother people by you besides? - No, none at all.


I am a hair dresser I know nothing respecting the taking of it. All that I know respecting of it, is, that I was going down Dean-street, and it was between twelve and one o'clock, near one, on Friday the 14th of this month, I observed several persons standing together, I went among them and enquired what was the meaning of it, and I saw a lad had hold of the prisoner at the bar by the coat, and he told me that he had lod a parcel out of his pocket; I asked him if he was certain that this man took it? he said he was in company with two others.

Prisoner. I was going down Dean-street, and as I was passing along the young man laid hold of me, and he said he had lost a parcel, and he believed I had got it; says I. I have not got it, nor do I know any thing of the parcel but if you want any thing with me you may take me where you please.

The prisoner called two witnesses to his character.

Court to Banks. When the first snatch was made where was the prisoner? - He was with the other two

Q. Was the prisoner in such a situation as to see the snatch that was made at your bundle? - He must.

Q. Did you make any outcry at that time? - No, none at all.

Q. You was frightened, I suppose? - Yes, I was.

Q. When they came up to you did they come up to you altogether or separate? - Altogether.

GUILTY . (Aged 33.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-52
SentenceCorporal > public whipping; Miscellaneous > fine

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435. CHARLES WRIGHT was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of the

three cube feet of fir timber; value 3s. the goods of James Lackington .


I saw the prisoner come into Mr. Davis's house, in Middle Moorfields, he is in the fancy and jewellery line, this was the 26th of June, between three and four in the afternoon, he came in with a large piece of wood, and Mrs. Davis refused buying of it, because it was so very big, he said he would leave it till Mr. Davis got up, Mr. Davis not being well he went to bed in the afternoon.


I saw the prisoner bring in a piece of timber, he said he had a block, and I said I did not want a block, I told him Mr. Davis was in bed, with that he said he would leave it till Mr. Davis got up; about an hour and a half after Mr. Rolfe and a man came to our warehouse about the wood; I believe it was his foreman.


I know the timber to be Mr. Lackington's property.

Jacobs. These are the two pieces of Wood he left with Mr. Davis.

Rolfe. I see them at Mr. Davis's about four or five o'clock in the afternoon; they are part of the building that has been taken down to make an improvement in Mr. Lackington's shop in Finsbury-place; here are the notches in the Timber which sits with some in the yard, where it has been cut off, I compared it at the time we took it back; the prisoner worked for me at Mr. Lackington's, I am a builder.

Q. What is the value of those two blocks? - They were worth about four shillings and six-pence in their present state; he had not been at work for me more than a fortnight or three weeks.

GUILTY . (Aged 61.)

Publickly Whipped and fined 1s .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice LAWRENCE.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-53
VerdictNot Guilty

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436. FRANCES ATKINSON was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of July , five guineas, and a half guinea, the monies of George Swann , privately from his person .


I was robbed the 8th of this month in New Gravel-lane , I lost five guineas and a half and some silver, I was brought up to the Rendezvous house by the press gang and I got clear from there, I am a swede, and one of the gang went out with me and he asked me to lend him half a crown; I said, I may as well give it you, so I gave him half a crown, after I gave him the half crown he brought me into a house where was a woman, and we had some fresh salmon, and we eat that and I sat myself down on the foot of the bed, because there were no chairs in the the house, after we eat the salmon I asked the woman whether she would have any thing to drink? she said, yes; she was then sitting on my knee, the prisoners is the woman, she said, yes, you may have something, what do you want? and I felt in my pocket and found my money was gone all but a halfpenny, she left a halfpenny in my pocket; I had five guineas and a half in gold, and some silver when I left my lodgings, it was loose in my pocket.

Q. When had you last seen your mo ney? - When I gave the half crown t the press gang man, not five minutes before.

Q. Who was the man that accompanied you from the rendezvous house? - He was a seaman, he belonged to the press gang. I met, the man the next morning about six o'clock, he asked me how I come on the last night? I said, I lost my money; he said, if that be the case I will bring you to the same house where you was, and he did, and nobody would give an answer, in the mean time one George Forrester came up, and he asked me what was the matter, what I wanted with the house? I told him I was robbed the night before of my money, and Forrester knocked, and he got no answer; then the officer got in at the window, and he opened the door, then we came in, and she was sitting on the floor without her cap, but all her clothes on; and the officer said, I must over haul I your pockets, and he did, and he could find no more than a guinea and a half in gold, and half a guinea in silver, making altogether two guineas; and then he asked her for the rest of my money; she said, that the man that brought me in that night had got two guineas of it; well, says he, that is not all, where is the rest? and she said, I gave it to another woman, and she named her, but I don't know her name, Mr. Forreiter he knows her, and he said, where is that woman? and Mr. Forrester sent out to look for the woman and the neighbours said that she had gone to Portsmouth that same night.

Q. Did you look at the guinea and a half that this woman had in her pocket? - She told Mr. Forrester that the took it from me.

Q. Did you perceive her put her hand into your pocket and take the money from you? - No, I did not, if I had done that she should not have done it.

Q. In what pocket was your money? - In my right pocket and she was sitting on my left knee. she left me three or four times, sometimes she sat on my right knee, and sometimes she sat on my left knee.

Prisoner. Could you swear to my taking your money? you sat along side of me on the bed and you asked me for some salmon? and you asked me if I would have any thing to drink, and you said what will you drink? and I said, if I drink any thing it shall be a drop of porter. There was another woman in the room, and I left them together while I went for the salmon.

Q. How soon after you quitted the house did you miss your money? - I missed it before ever I started on my legs.

Q. Who else was in the house besides her and the man? - Nobody but us three. I was there half an hour or three quarters, no more altogether.


On Wednesday the 9th, as I was coming up Gravel-lane, between six and seven in the morning, I saw this man and one of the press gang that he mentions, standing opposite a window of the prisoner's lodging room.

Court to Swan. Had you ever been there before? - Never in my life.

Forrester. This man, the prosecutor, did not know me, but the press gang man did, and he said to him, here is an officer, you give charge to search the house; I went up to the room, and I knocked, and could not get in, and we got in by the window first, and then opened the door; and we found the prisoner in the house, with all her clothes on, but without a cap; this man that was along with him, says, that is the woman; pointing to her; accordingly I says to her, what have you done with this man's money? she

said, she knew nothing at all about it. I searched her; in one pocket I found about half a crowns worth of halfpence, and in the next pocket I found a guinea and a half, and eight shillings in silver; she did then begin to cry, and I asked her what became of the rest? and she said, that the other woman that was along with her, told her that the press gang chap, had two guineas of the money, and the remains of it Elizabeth Burne had got, and gone to Portsmouth. The press gang man was along with me at this time; he denied all charge of it, for he attended up at the justice's with this woman, I brought her to the justice; she said, she found eight and thirty shillings on the bed; and the justice ordered me to deliver four shillings to the prisoner; which I did.

Jury to Prosecutor. Was you quite sober? - I cannot say that I was, but I was solid, and knew what I did, or else I should not have found my way home again.

Prisoner. I am very innocent of the money, I know nothing of it; I left him and the other woman in the house, and that man; I cannot tell what they did the while; and when I came in with the last pot of ale, he was gone out, and the other woman with him; I picked that money up from off the bed.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-54
VerdictNot Guilty

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437. SAMPSON BROMLEY was indicted for forging, on the 14th of April , a certain promissory note for the payment of five guineas ; the tenor of which is in the words and figures following: No. 4760. 5l. 5s. Plymouth, 3d February 1794,

I promise to pay to bearer, on demand. here, or at Messrs. Taylor, Lloyd, Bowman and Co. bankers, London, five guineas, value received.

Five guineas. J. Sanders. Entered, J. Harrison.

With intention to defraud Messrs . Taylor , Lloyd , Bowman , and Co.

Indicted in a Second COUNT, for uttering a like forged note with the same intention.

Indicted in a Third and Fourth COUNTS, for forging and uttering a like note, with intention to defraud Thomas Yen .(The case opened by Mr. Const.)


I am a baker , living near Brompton, in Michael's place; Mr. Bromley came to my house, on the 14th of April, and there was a tall thin young man came with him; Mr. Bromley had been there once before, and I happened not to be at home then; he came in the second time, just as I came in, and he says, how do you do Mr. Yen? Says he, I called to settle a little bill with you; Says I, I beg your pardon, I have not the pleasure to know you; says he, my name is Bromley; what I says I, captain Bromley, of Brompton; he says, the same. He lays me down the note, and I gave him the change; says he, I am coming to live at Union-row, I will be glad if you will call to-morrow for some orders for bread and flour; and that was all that passed, till I came to Bow-street. I went to the place the next day, but he was gone from there ever since before Christmas, he had ran away from there, and never paid his lodgings. This is the same note.


I received this note of Mr. Yen; I took it and paid it to Coutts in the Strand.


I am clerk to Messrs. Coutt; this note was paid in from Mr. Allcock; I took it into the City to Taylor, Lloyd, Bowman and Co. and they refused payment.

Q. Do you know whether there is such a house in Plymouth as that note specifies? - I do not. It was again returned to Mr. Allcock.


I am clerk to Taylor, Lloyd, Bowman and Co. this bill was presented to us, and refused payment.

Q. Do you know whether there are such persons at Plymouth? - I only can say that I don't know that we have such persons that correspond with us.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-55

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438. CATHARINE BRISCOE was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of June , seventeen linen. table cloths, value 5l. forty-eight linen caps, value 3l. two linen towels, value 2s. ten linen bed sheets, value 2l. twelve linen pillow cases, value 1l. four linen bolster cases, value 8s. a set of tent bed curtain, value 1l. a pair of callico window curtains, value 2l. two woollen bed blankets, value 1l. two cotton counterpances, value 1l. nineteen linen shirts, value 1l. 18s. twenty linen handkerchiefs, value 1l. three pair of nankeen breeches, value 9s. a pair of cosdary breeches, value 6s. two cotton waistcoats, value 6s. four pair of cotton stockings, value 8s. a pair of silk stockings, value 4s. a pair of callico drawers, value 3s. ten cotton covers for chairs, value 1l. two yards of linen cloth, value 5s three yards of dimity, value 6s two yards of callico, value 4s. four china plates, value 4s. a silk handkerchief, value 3s. and two woollen cloth coats, value 1l. the goods of John Mossman , Esq. and eight linen shirts, value 1l. two cotton waistcoats, value 6s. and ten linen handkerchiefs, value 10s. the goods of John Archibald Bertram .


These articles were lost from my house in Tokenhouse-yard ; Mr. Bertram is a cousin of mine; some of the things taken away were his; the prisoner was a servant of mine; she was taken up at my house for this, offence; she had been a servant about twelve months. I had been abroad for sometime; I returned on the 3d of June; I looked for my clothes when I came home, and I missed them; I missed all the articles in the indictment, and more. I left the house last November; she was the only servant left in the house; there was the counting house kept there, to which the clerks had access; one of the clerks resided in the house.

Q. Have you ever recovered any of this property? - None.

Q. Why do you impute it to the prisoner? - About ten days after my return, I came home one night, and found her in liquor, I was obliged, with the assistance of the other gentleman, to carry her to bed by force, and locked the door that she could not get out; before I delivered her in the morning, I looked through my drawers and other places in the house, one drawer in particular, which I knew to be full of table linen when I went away; the linen was taken out, and a large blanket was substituted in the place of the several things, that had been

taken out, and slightly covered over with table linen, which was sufficient to confirm my suspicions; I went immediately to Guildhall, and got an officer, and charged him with the prisoner. It appeared that she had got false keys by the blacksmith's bill that was found upon her, with some duplicates to a considerable amount.

Q. Was any injury done at all to these drawers? - Some of them I cannot use again with the same keys as formerly.

Q. Do those duplicates answer to any of these things in the indictment? - The indictment was drawn from these duplicates, and a table cloth that was taken from her pocket.

Q. How long had she been with you before you went abroad? - Four or five months. I got a character from a near relation of her's; and she appears to have began this practice very few days after she came into my service.

Mr. Knowlys. I want to know, as you are a single man, whether this woman was not in the habit of advancing money for the things that were used in the house? have you never, for instance, paid her money that she had before advanced; as when you have ordered a dinner for your friends, she may have had some things of your green grocer, which she paid, and you paid for afterwards? - No, I don't know any such thing.

Q. Did not you owe her half a year's wages at the time you came home? - I made out her accounts, and there is a balance owing to her of three or four pounds, granting she paid all the bills that she debits me for, which she has not, for they have come in since, two bills came in this week.

Q. Is not the door of the house constantly open? - No, there is a counting house bell to ring.

Jury. How does that door open when the bell is rung? - There is a bell handle in the counting house, just by the desk.

Q. Then the clerk must pull to open the shop door? - They must; the pully from the counting house draws the lock of the door.

Court. I understand that there was three or four pounds due to her; has she demanded that sum or not? - She has not; she asked for money after I did come home, and I gave her a guinea.


I am a cousin of the gentleman that was examined just now; I was near two months in the house when he was absent; I arrived from Spain the end of April, or beginning of May 1794, and I am still there now. There was one shirt of mine found from a pawnbroker before the alderman.

Q. Were any duplicates found that applied to your linen? - I cannot tell. The prisoner came home one night in liquor, and the prosecutor desired me to see if I had any thing wrong; and I found some things wrong; I missed some shirts, handkerchief, and a waistcoat; which I recognized before the alderman; but I cannot swear to it, because it has no mark on it; I saw a pair of stockings also; I cannot say exactly what I have lost, because I have no note of my clothes.


I am a constable; I have a quantity of tickets, fifty three, that belongs to one Alexander Purse , pawnbroker, of London Wall; here are several others belonging to Marshall Spincer, of Gracechurch-street; sixteen or seventeen; then there are two of John Parker's. the corner of Wood street I took them on her, out of her pocket; likewise this table cloth, and this bill for altering some locks.


I am a servant to Mr. Spincke, of Gracechurch-street; I produce three articles pawned by the prisoner at the bar, three handkerchiefs, two muslin and one cambrick, pawned the 31st of May.

Q. Have you any doubt about the person of the prisoner? - No, none in the least.

Prosecutor. I can speak to a muslin handkerchief and to a linen one; here is a cotton pocket handkerchief I can speak to; the five shirts they are marked I. M. and the number, I can swear to the sheet.

Mr. Knowlys to Fisk. You say you have never seen this woman before? - No.

Q. Your shop, I suppose, has little partitions, so that it is not very light where the customers come in? - There is a window just by.

Q. There is a number of customers come to your shop? - Yes.

Q. Therefore you may very easily be mistaken in this woman? - I am not at all mistaken; she has used our shop very near a twelve month backward and forward.


I am servant to Mr. Purse, pawnbroker, London Wall; I produce a table cloth pawned for six shillings, the 24th of October; four napkins the 9th of March for five shillings; six napkins January the 30th, for seven shillings and six-pence, They were all pawned by the prisoner at the bar.

Prosecutor. These things are all mine, they are marked.


I am a pawnbroker's servant; I produce a table cloth, shirt, and tent bed furniture; the furniture was pawned the 30th of April; the table cloth and shirt the 30th of May.

Prosecutor. The tent bed furniture I declined swearing to at Guildhall, but since that I have received a letter from the prisoner, and she owns that they are mine.

Mr. Knowlys. Have you ever seen her write? - Yes, I have; it is in her hand writing.

Bertram. This shirt produced by the last witness. is mine, it has my mark on it, and I missed some shirts.

Prisoner. I leave it all to my counsel.

The prisoner called I three witnesses who gave her a good character, and said that her husband had left her with two children.

GUILTY . (Aged 28)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-56
VerdictNot Guilty

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439. JOHN PIPER was indicted for stealing, on the 4th of July , thirteen ounces weight of sewing silk, value 10s. the goods of Richard Packer .


I am a taylor ; the prisoner was my apprentice . on the 4th of July, I searched his box (it was in his room where he slept) I called him up stairs with the other servant; I opened it in his prefence; first I asked him whether it was his box? and he said it was. Then I opened it, it was locked; I saw this sewing silk, and I asked him whose it was? he said it was mine; I asked him who took it, or who put it there? he said he took it and he put it there; I asked what he meant to do with it? he told me he did not mean to steal it; I asked him for what purpose he put it there?

he gave me no answer. On Monday morning I took him before a magistrate, I asked him how he came to take it? he said, it was loose on the counter.

Q. Had you threatened him or made him any promise at the time he said it was your's? - It passed exactly as I have stated.

Q. What is the value of it? - Ten shillings. I have missed property before, but I will not accuse him of it.

Mr. Alby. This boy is your apprentice, and has served six years of his time with you? - Yes.

Q. In point of fact he lived in your house a fortnight after this discovery, before you took him up? - He staid in my house till last Monday.

The prisoner called six witnesses who gave him a good character.

Prosecutor. I knew him when he was a lad, I never mistrusted him, I trusted him in my warehouse.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-57
VerdictNot Guilty

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440. CHARLES PRITCHARD and JOSEPH SMITH were indicted for stealing, on the 6th of July , eighteen guineas, a half guinea, two hundred shillings, three hundred and twelve copper halfpence, and ninety-six copper farthings; the goods and monies of Charles Turner , in his dwelling house .

The case opened by Mr. Knowlys.


I was the waiter at the Robin Hood at the time of this happening; Mr. Charles Turner keeps that house; this happened on Sunday the 6th of July, to the best of my knowledge, between eight and nine o'clock; I have no perfect knowledge of the prisoners; I saw them that day, they came up stairs, and ordered a jug of ale, there were three in company, they came into the public tap room up stairs. The Robin Hood is at High Hill Ferry, Clapton, near Hackney.

Mr. Knapp objected to the indictment saying, St. John's, at Hackney.

Witness. They called for a jug of ale; I asked if they chose some biscuits? they said, yes, bring three. In consequence I brought three up. When they first came into the room, Pritchard came down stairs, there was a gentleman and three ladies in the room, but they quitted the room half an hour before Pritchard came down stairs.

Q. Do you know where the gentleman and three ladies went to? - No, I never saw them afterwards. Pritchard met me at the bottom of the stairs, and said, you are wanted up stairs, waiter; they want some more ale; with that I went up; they found fault with the ale, and desired to have some milder if there was any; and I brought them up a jug of milder.

Q. Who was the person who asked for the milder? - I believe it was Mr. Smith, but I don't know exactly recollect.

Q. Who were in the room when you went up in consequence of Pritchard's direction? - There were no others in the room then, then these two; the man who is absent, and Mr. Smith. When I brought up the milder ale, Mr. Smith he did not find it better than the last; but Pritchard he tasted it and thought it was very good. After that I went down stairs and walked about the garden, and I came up again about some things that were to be carried down, and I found that one of them was absent from the room

Q. Who were the two that you found in the room then? - Mr. Pritchard and Mr. Smith. I then went down stairs to see if I could find him in the garden, because not knowing their faces, I thought they wanted to cheat me out of my reckoning; I went up stairs looked into the room again, and still he was not there; I believe then Pritchard went down to the bar and had a glass of hollands; Smith remained in the room, but the third person was still missing; I then went out of the room again, and some notion ran into my head that I must look into this passage door, that used to be locked and shut, which leads to all the bed rooms, that used to be kept locked on Sunday and every busy day likewife, except when persons went up for corn; it certainly was locked at this time, because I had been up to get into my own room, but I could not get in; I am now speaking of the door through which the person got that took the money.

Q. Is that door level with the tap room? - No, not quite; it does not open into the tap room.

Q. Does it open on the stair case? - No, it is on further in the passage, about four feet from the tap room door. I went to this door to see if it was opened, and found a rebound against me inside twice or three times; in consequence of that I called who is there? two or three times; nobody answered, but on that Mr. Pritchard and Smith went down stairs out of the room, and immediately the man that I missed out of the company of Pritchard and Smith, came out of that passage door, and went by me and I asked him what he wanted there? he said he thought it was a place of convenience; and he went by me; I said to them, gentlemen, you have not paid your reckoning; and this man ran away, and I ran after him; at last a suspicion arose in my breast, and I hallooed out stop thief! and ran after them.

Q. How did they go down stairs, walk or run? - I could not perceive how they all went; the last man ran down very fast, faster than I could follow him. I ran after them all the way up the lane, and I saw Smith and Pritchard running before, and this third man running as hard as he could, with his hands in his coat pocket; then I kept following them till they got into the field, I ran as hard as I could, hallooing out stop thief! but the third man in company he separated from them in the first field or second. However, I lost sight of him there; he got clear off, and I have never seen him since.

Q. He having got off, did you pursue the other two? - I did; I lost sight of them as they got into the lane, going to Clapton-road, and I hallooed out stop thief! some gentlemen asked me if I was in earnest? I told them, I was; I lost sight of them for about two or three minutes; the people kept running with me, some before and some behind, the people who were raised by my alarm of stop thief! at last they got across Clapton-road; from that time to when I saw the first man Prichard taken, it was not more than five minutes; he was taken in an oat field, across the Clapton-road; I was called over into the oat field to look at him. Smith was taken, I am not certain where, but I found him in custody in the oat field.

Q. As you was pursuing these people, did you perceive any thing particular? - Yes.

Q. Did you find any thing afterwards? - Not I, I did not find any thing.

Q. With regard to the third man, did you perceive him do any thing as you was pursuing? - I did; I observed him put his hand into his pocket and pull it out again, and appeared to throw away some thing, but I could not perceive what that was, in the lane, about twenty five yards from our house, before he had separated

from the other two, before he got to the first field.

Q. Did you afterwards search near the spot where you observed this man throw something away? - I did not; it was quite dark; I returned home again.

Q. Were there any persons running up this lane which led to the first field, besides yourself? - There were many pursuing.

Mr. Knapp. Pritchard it was that came down to ask for some milder ale; and when it was taken up he said it was as good as he would have it; you went then down into the garden, to walk about, when you came up Pritchard went down the second time, and during the time that you was down stairs it was that you found the door in the situation that you described? - No, it was when he came back again.

Q. The ladies that were in the room, two, went off by themselves, and one was left with the gentleman; you had not the curiosity to see how the door was left at that time? - I had not.

Q. The man that escaped you have not heard of since? - No, I have not.

Q. He is the man that you described as throwing away something? - It was.

Q. These men you never see inside of the door? - Never.

Mr. Knowlys. With respect to these three ladies and gentlemen, they paid their reckoning regularly as you expected? - They did.

Mr. Knapp. Do you know a person of the name of Elizabeth Whitchart ? - Not to my knowledge.

Q. You never said that your master had bribed you to say what you have now said? - Never.

Q. You have been a waiter at the Crown and Anchor, have not you? - I have waited there busy days.

Q. Was you employed there constantly on busy days? - No.

Q. How came they to leave off employing you there? - I never heard any reason, but I thought it was strange in my ownself.


I am sole master of the Robin Hood. On Sunday the 6th of July, I lost thirty pounds sixteen shillings, in gold and silver, and halfpence; eighteen guineas and a half in a silk purse, in gold; the silver was in a canvas bag, and fifteen shillings of halfpence, tied up in five shilling parcels.

Q. In what part of the house was this money kept in? - In my own bed room, in the top drawer of a chest of drawers. I never see the prisoners in the house during the time they were drinking; I never saw them till they were taken and brought into the house.

Q. How do you get to this bed room? - By a passage, a room door.

Q. How far is that passage room door from the door of the long tea room? - About four or five yards.

Q. Is your bed room immediately inside of that door? - It is the next room on the left hand side going in, and my servant's is on the right hand side; the door of my room was left locked, I locked it myself.

Q. How lately had you been there before you was alarmed of having lost your money? - Some four or five hours. My direction is that the passage door should be double locked if any of my servants go there; I locked it when I went to my bed room four or five hours before this happened.

Q. After these men were brought to your house after this robbery, were there any keys found or produced to you by any body? - Not that night, but there was the next morning, some pick lock keys.

Q. Did you or not try these pick lock

keys to the passage door and bed room door? - Yes, I did.

Q. Was you able by these pick lock keys to open these two doors? - I was able both to lock and unlock.

Mr. Knapp. You have never had the good fortune to find any of this property? - No, I have not.

Q. The keys of this room door and the passage door, I believe, hang up in your bar? - They do.

Q. How lately before, are you sure now, that you saw the property that you have described? - In the morning, between twelve and one, or about twelve o'clock.

Q. Who produced these pick lock keys to you? - Richard Edwards and John Clarke . When I went up stairs on the Sunday morning I put twenty shillings of halfpence in my drawer, the money was there then.

Q. How did you find your drawers after this alarm? - I found my drawers open, my books open, and my bed room door was unlocked and shut, and the passage door was unlocked likewise; they were all locked in the morning, I had the keys of these drawers in my own pocket.

Q. At the first examination I understand that you stated that you had not seen them since Saturday? - I had not untied the purse since Saturday night.

Q. I believe your house is pretty much frequented on a Sunday? - Sometimes.

Q. How much company might you have in the course of that day? - We had not many that day.

Q. Thirty or forty or fifty people perhaps? - Yes, a hundred or more.

Q. The keys of the back room and passage hanging in the bar, of course your servants had access to them? - Not without my leave; they could not take them without, because Mrs. Turner or I in the bar.

Mr. Knowlys. Had this circumstance occurred to you, before in the day, that any of your customers had ran away without paying the reckoning? - No.

Q. Were the keys missing from your bar when the alarm was given? - They were not.

Jury to Davis. How long was it between the time of these persons first coming into the room, to the time of their quitting the house? - About three quarters of an hour, it may be more.


I live at Stamford hill; I was near this spot; on the alarm of stop thief! I pursued in consequence, and apprehended the shortest of the two, Pritchard.

Q. Did you see Davis pursuing? - I did not; it was about nine o'clock in the evening; a lady had been up dining with my daughter, the lady and one of my sons, and as I came near this lane, I heard the cry of stop thieves! shortly after two men came up, turned short round by the watch box, and jumped into the ditch.

Q. How far was this from the Robin Hood ? - I cannot say that, three or four fields, better than a quarter of a mile. Hearing the cry of stop thieves from several voices, when I got into the lane I see several people running up this lane, and still crying stop thief! I concluded they might be drinking or joking; I said, are you joking or in earnest in calling out stop thief? the answer was, sir, we are in earnest, they have robbed my master's house. Immediately these two prisoners jumped out of the ditch, went through the sence, and ran into the corn field; one of them, Pritchard, attempted to pass me, and I said, you cannot pass me, I must secure you till the people come up; sir, says he, I am no thief, don't touch me; says I, if you are no thief, why don't you stand? after

some little altercation I endeavoured to lay hold of him, I secured him, and in the course of three or four minutes some of the pursuers came up, Davis came up and said, that is one of the men; and I said, there he is for you; and he was taken back to the Robin Hood .


I live at Upper Clapton; I took Smith, the tallest of the two, about nine o'clock last Sunday week, I saw several people collected together, and they said they were going to search a pond; and I asked what was the matter? and they said, there was a house robbed; and I asked them which were the thieves? and they said captain Locke had taken one, and the other two were gone; the waiter and several others went round, and could not find them. After pausing about five minutes I went into the field myself, and I saw a remarkable track, not made by a person's walking, but as if a person had been crawling; when I got into that track I began to be alarmed; I went back again, in coming out of this track there I perceived Smith crouching in the hedge with his hands and feet; I then immediately pursued him and gave the alarm; he recovered himself and ran across a garden ground as fast as ever he could, and went through another hedge; he then was pursued there, and he bolts back again, and a man, by my giving the alarm, pursued him with me, and we got hold of him, we had not taken him four minutes, and were leading him back, when the waiter came up and says, this is one, and I will swear to you, you had a watch; yes, says Smith, and I have lost it. I then delivered him up, and went home to my own apartment.


I am a working man. On Monday morning, about twenty minutes before six, I found a pick lock key, about twenty yards from Mr. Turner's gate, in the road way, just by the side of a ditch; I kept it till Mr. Turner got up, and gave it to him; that was the same morning that I found it, the day after the robbery was committed.

Turner. This is the key.

Mr. Knapp. Who threw them there you know nothing at all about? - I do not.


I found two false keys, between three and four o'clock in the afternoon of last Wednesday week, the Wednesday after Mr. Turner's house had been robbed.

Q. Where abouts did you find them? - About five and twenty yards from Mr. Turner's house in a garden; I was gathering some peas, and I picked up one of the keys first, and then I picked up another. This garden is close by the lane that leads to Mr. Turner's house; I found them in the hedge next to the lane that leads from Mr. Turner's house to the fields; I carried them directly to Mr. Turner.


I am a labouring man; I found one key last Monday was a week, in the morning, the Monday after this robbery was committed; it is a double key; this is it; I found it in the horse road, pretty near the Robin Hood , about twenty-eight or twenty-nine yards; directly as I picked it up Mr. Turner's man was rolling a walk in the garden, I gave it him; Mr. Turner had it that morning; I see Mr. Turner have it afterwards.

Q. What is the name of the road? - It is a little bit of a lane that leads from the Robin Hood , into the fields, into Clapton.

Mr. Knapp. Whereabouts in the road

did you find it? - Next the hedge by the side of the road.

Q. What is there on the other side of the hedge? - Gardens.

Court to Davis. What do you call this lane? - It is a coach road that leads up to Clapton.

Q. Is there a garden by the side of that road? - Yes, a garden belonging to my master.

Q. Which way did he throw the keys from him? - By the left hand side.

Q. Is there any garden on the left hand side going from the Robin Hood ? - Yes, there is.

Q. How is that garden separated from the lane? - By an hedge and ditch.

Q. To Perry. Which side of the road was it you found the key? - The left hand side going from the Robin Hood .

Mr. Knapp to Davis. The pick lock keys were thrown by the man that escaped? - Yes.

Court to Turner. What do you call the parish? - St. John's, Hackney.

Q. Is it commonly called so? - Yes.

Mr. Knapp. Have you ever heard it called St. John's, at Hackney? - I don't know that ever I did to my knowledge.

Court to Edwards. How long have you lived at Hackney? - About thirty years.

Q. What do they call the parish? - St. John's, Hackney; I never heard any other name for it.

Q. To Lockewood. What do they call the parish? - I have heard it called both, St. John's, Hackney, and St. John's, at Hackney.

Old Bailey Proceedings front matter.
16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-57

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THE WHOLE PROCEEDINGS ON THE KING's Commission of the Peace Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the City of LONDON; AND ALSO The Gaol Delivery for the County of Middlesex; HELD AT JUSTICE HALL in the OLD BAILEY, On Wednesday the 16th of July 1794, and the following Days; Being the SIXTH SESSION in the Mayoralty of The Right Hon. PAUL LE MESURIER , Esq. LORD MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LONDON.

TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND BY MANOAH SIBLY, PROFESSOR OF SHORT-HAND, No. 35, Goswell-Street, And Published by Authority.


LONDON: Printed and published by HENRY FENWICK , No. 63, Snow Hill. PRICE ONE SHILLING and FOUR-PENCE.

THE WHOLE PROCEEDINGS ON THE KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON, &c.

The Continuation of the Trial of CHARLES PRITCHARD and JOSEPH SMITH .

Prisoner Pritchard. Sunday evening, about four o'clock, I went from home, and went out with an intent to get a few gooseberries for my children, at Hackney, at my aunt's, and I was there rather too soon, and I thought I would take a walk a little further; I went as far as Lee Bridge, I met with this gentleman that is here; says he, will you have a drop of ale, and we walked down towards this house, by the river side, and we met another man; he comes up, and he says, gentlemen, how do you do? we went into a house near this house where the gentleman says the robbery was done, and we had a glass of peppermint a piece, as near as I can recollect; afterwards we came out, and says they, will you take a drop of ale together? says I, I want to get home; and says the man, this is as near a way for you to go as any, Mr. Smith said, no, and we went up to the Robin Hood, and we had a pot of ale; says he, where shall we sit? and we went up stairs; after drinking of this pot of ale, we did not drink it all out, somebody found fault with it, and said it was rather too stale; I went down and ordered a jug that was milder; I went up stairs, and the waiter went up with a jug that was milder; Mr. Smith said, he did not think that was better then the last; and I told him that I thought it was as good as ever I talled, to my opinion. I went down stairs and got a glass of hollands at the bar, and changed six

pence for it, and paid for it; after that I was looking at my halfpence, long before I went out of the house; I went out of the house, going up this lane, that was nearest to my aunt's; I had not been out of the house above a minute or two before I heard the cry of stop thief! I was alarmed at hearing the cry, I set out a run, and a great many others set out a run, and I ran across two fields or three; in running across they said, there he goes, there he goes; and I runs across and runs into this hedge; the gentleman that was there to take me, says, don't run so fast; I says, I am no thief, I keep as good a house over my head as you. I stopped till a good many people came up; and the waiter and two or three more takes me and hauls me along ever so far, and a gentleman, a constable, came and took hold of me; they asked me who I was? I said, I was Mr. Pritchard, at the Three Compasses, in Dog-row, Bethnall-green; they told me I was not the man that kept the Compasses, for the man was a good deal bigger than me; and a gentleman comes up and pulls out a staff within a minute or two, and that gentleman laid hold of me, and they searched me, and found nothing but fourpence in halfpence, and some few more; I went down to the Robin Hood, and they kept me in the parlour some time; says a gentleman there, you had better take a candle and go up stairs, and see if any thing is lost, and then you will be sure; and the landlord went up stairs, and came down again, and says, secure that man till the waiter comes, for I know nothing at all of him; and when he came down stairs, he said, he had lost thirty pounds or more; and there I was kept till they brought this other gentleman in, I don't know how long after. That is all I have got to say; and I am as innocent as a child unborn.

Prisoner Smith. On Sunday evening, about six o'clock, I believe it might be, I was coming from Lee bridge road, and met with Mr. Pritchard; I asked him how he did? and he said, he was going down to the river side, in order to get something to drink, and we met with the third man, who accosted us with how do you do, gentlemen? he then said, landlord, I have catched you, now you shall stand treat; seeming to know Mr. Pritchard, as if he had been a customer in his house before; Pritchard then said, he had no objection, and he asked us what we would drink? and we said, we would drink some ale, if he was agreeable. We then proceeded to this house, and there we went in, and had a quart of ale and three biscuits; the quart of ale being drank, the ale, I thought, was rather too stale; I then desired the waiter to bring me a tankard that was rather milder; he then brought a tankard of ale up, and I poured out some part into the glass and tasted it, and told him, I believed it was the same fort as before; in answer, Mr. Pritchard said, it was very good, and rather better than the other. The waiter then left the room, and Mr. Pritchard went down to get a glass of hollands, and then came up stairs; then the waiter returned and came up stairs again, and in a few minutes after he came into the room, the waiter cried out stop thief! with that alarm we ran down stairs, and running down stairs there was a number of people that seemed to be all running in pursuit of the thief, there might be a score, or less, or more, some went one way and some the other; when we got about half a mile from the house, as near as I can guess, somebody comes up and took hold of Mr. Pritchard, who it was I cannot exactly say; Mr. Pritchard was taken back to the Robin Hood , and I

followed, as I had been given to understand the parties pursued were gone across the oat field, Pritchard was taken back at the time, and the alarm was that the parties were gone into the oat field; I then pursued across the oat field, and two or three more, and was there in search near the half hour I dare say; in returning back into the oat field, I heard the second cry, there he is, there he goes; I then pursued, and in running my watch chain catched in a bush, or bramble, and pulled it out of my pocket, I stopped then feeling for it in the nettles, a gentleman came up to me, and said, you are the thief, you are endeavouring to hide yourself in the hedge; which I says to him, sir, if you suppose me to be the thief, I am very willing to go any where you will take me, which I desired they would, and I would walk without any pulling or carrying, only telling me which way they wished to go, they immediately let me go, every one of them, except one man, and he just held hold of my coat, and desired me to walk on quietly, which I did, and they took me down to this Robin Hood; there then came a gentleman forward, and they all surrounded me again the second time, one pulling me one way, and another another; I told them all my clothes would be all pulled off my back, I de- sired them to shut the windows down, and to search me, which they did, and found two guineas, and nine or nine and six pence in silver, they then took me away to Hackney watch-house, with the prisoner Pritchard, I asked them there if they had found my watch? they replied no, but they perfectly recollected, the waiter and all, that I had one; I have no more to say, only that I am entirely innocent of the crime, that is laid to my charge.

The prisoner Pritchard called twelve witnesses, and the prisoner Smith two, who gave them very good characters.


I am the vestry clerk of this parish, by the parish books it is called St. John's, at Hackney.

Court. Then the name by which this Church is consecrated, is merely St. John, and it may be called St. John's, at Hackney, merely to distinguish it from St. John at some other village or hamlet? - It may for what I know, it was formerly called St. Augustine.

Q. When did it change its name? - I don't know exactly.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice LAWRENCE.

16th July 1794
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441. WILLIAM BRIGHTMORE was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of June , two hempen sacks, value 4s. a peck of wheat, value 1s. 6d. three pecks of floor, value 6s. the goods of Charles Hamerton , Esq.

The case opened by Mr. Knowlys.


I live at Clepton, half a mile from Mr. Hanerton's Mills, the prisoner lived just by me, I have known him seven or eight years.

Q. Was you at Mr. Hamerton's Mills on Wednesday the 25th of June? - I was at Mr. Palmer's, Mr. Killick's foreman, last Wednesday was three weeks, I saw the prisoner and one of the needle makers going across the bridge, over the river of Mr. Palmer's, and we went on till we came to the needle mills.

Q. Does the needle mills join these mills of Mr. Hamerton's? - Yes, they are within the same roof, Mr. Brightmore

and the needle maker asked me to go up into the mills; they said, mother Sole, will you go and see the mills? I said, I did not care if I did, I had never seen them before; then Mr. Brightmore went up first, I next, and the needle maker followed, and the first thing I apprehended was, Brightmore said to the needle maker, why don't you sweep up this stuff, and give it me for my pigs?

Q. Does he keep pigs? - Yes.

Q. Did you see what this stuff was? - It was wheat and grain scattered about the floor.

Q. How much do you think there might be? - I cannot say, it laid loose about the floor like sand.

Q. Was it swept up as he desired? - No, they did not touch it, I walked across the room to the window, and kept looking out at the window, and I heard Mr. Brightmore and the needle maker whispering something together, and I turned myself, and looked and see the needle maker and Mr. Brightmore filling two bags with wheat, I could distinguish that, they were taking it out of a little binn, like a cornchandler's binn, and I thought the needle maker seemed a little shy, and Brightmore then said, never mind mother Sole; they tied up the bags, and they went away, Mr. Brightmore took one bag, and the needle maker took the other; this was in the needle maker's part of the premises. Mr. Brightmore went down first with the biggest bag, and I went down next, and the needle maker followed after me.

Q. What became of the corn that you saw scattered on the floor? - I left it there; we all three came out together, and we went across the mill fields, towards Mr. Brightmore's home, near Clapton turopike.

Q. Did you go to Mr. Brightmore's home? - I went to my own home; but first I should have told you, going along the mill field, Mr. Brightmore was a good way before us, the needle maker and I were a little behind, the needle maker asked me if I would take his bag a minute?

Q. Did you meet any body in the way? - Yes, we met Mr. Hamerton's miller, John Little , he did not speak to me, he said, Brightmore, what have you got there?

Q. What did Brightmore say? - I did not hear, as soon as Brightmore turned about, the miller clapped his hand on the bag, on his shoulder, and the miller went towards Mr. Hamerton's mills, and I went towards home.

Q. You say Mr. Brightmore keeps pigs? - He kept two or three.

Q. Do you know how he fed them? - I have seen wheat amongst other stuff, amongst wash and grains, once or twice.

Q. Did you go home with Bright more? - I did not, I went to my own house, I am a married woman, I and my husband rent a house of seven pounds a year; my husband is a bricklayer's labourer.

Q. When was Brightmore taken up? - I cannot say.

Mr. Knapp. Mrs. Sole, Mr. Gamble, the needle maker, he is not here, he has marched off, he was the person that conducted you and Brightmore to these pin mills? - He unlocked the door and let us in, he went first.

Q. When you got in, Brightmore asked why he had not swept up this wheat that was on the floor? - No, he said, stuff.

Q. Well stuff, I like that better; he asked him why he did not sweep it up, and give it him for his pigs? - Yes.

Q. Then Gamble gave him this wheat which he took home? - Yes, I believe so, he went that way.

Q. Gamble belonged to that needle manufactory does not he? - He kept the keys and unlocked and looked it again.

Q. There is a sort of funnel that come into this place? - I don't know indeed.

Q. You know nothing of Gamble? - No.


I am one of the miller's working at Mr. Hamerton's mills, I know Brightmore, the prisoner.

Q. Did you see him in company with Mrs. Sole at any time? - Not in company, he was about a hundred yards distant, I cannot tell you the day, Gamble was with Mrs. Sole. Brightmore had a bag on his shoulder, and something in it.

Q. Did you speak to Brightmore? - I believe not, I clapped my hand on the bag as I passed by the path.

Q. What is become of Gamble since? - That I cannot tell.

Q. Has he run away? - Very possibly.

Q. He was the person working at the needle manufactory, connected with your master's mills? - Yes.

Mr. Knapp. You speak out now at last, Brightmore was a hundred yards before Gamble and Mrs. Sole? - Yes.

Q. Then you never saw them together? - No nearer than that.

Q. You are sure that Gamble did not speak to you, nor you to him? - I am sure of that.


I know Brightmore, I have known him about five years, he lived about a hundred yards off from me, he keeps pigs.

Q. Have you seen what he gives his pigs? - What he called sweepings, it is a kind of grain, but I don't know what.

Mr. Knapp. He gives his pigs sweep ing, does he? wheat sweepings perhaps? - I don't know what sweepings it is.


I am a constable, I went with a search warrant to the prisoner's house, I found him in an out house, and in his dwelling house I found two empty sacks, they are here, I found a little bag with about a peck of wheat in it, tied up with a string to the rafters; there is another bag with three pecks, or high a bushel of flour.

Mr. Knapp. You say you found these in an hot house, not at all concealed? - It was in his out house, adjoining his dwelling house.


I am the son in-law of the prosecutor, Mr. Hamerton, I have the concern and management of the nil's. On Saturday the 28th of June, when I returned home in the afternoon, our men told me that they had seen some wheat; on looking through a crevice of our room into the needle pointing manufactory, I there discovered a large quantity of unground wheat about the floor. Our granery is above the manufactory, and we have trunks or spouts, that convey the corn through the pin pointing manufactory, entirely inclosed from the top of the cealing to the hot house, where the corn is ground, which keeps them regularly supplied while the mill is going; on further searching the premises of the pin pointing manufactory, on searching these spouts I found there were little square holes made, stopped with a bit of leather, or cork, and immediately under these holes there was a binn, which received the corn when the leather or paper was drawn out; there were two funnels pierced in the way, but there was no binn directly under the other, they must draw it out with something under; then besides these holes there were several holes in the cealing, where they might draw out any quantity they wanted when they chose, they were stopped with little bits of wood or paper, the very least thing in the world would stop it when put in tight. I went to Mr Brightmore's premises with the constable, I was present when the wheat was found, it is of a similar sample with the wheat we have, it is a very high dried wheat, it is not to be bought at the corn

market, nor any where else, it is for government service, for the use of the troops abroad, it is kiln dried for to make it keep a long time, I can clearly say to the best of my knowledge that it is Mr. Hamerton's, and it is kiln dried.

Q. I see there sacks, are you able to speak to any of them? - A little time ago we ground a large quantity of barley for the Stratford distillery, and this is one of the sacks that was delivered with that barley marked S. S. for Stratford still-house.

Q. Had you any sacks of that sort on the 25th of June? - Yes, we had, and we have now some in the mill, they are worth about two shillings a piece.

Q. What is the value of this peck of corn? - About two shillings.

Mr. Knowlys. I take it for granted you have no share in this business? - I have not.

Q. This wheat you produce is kiln dried, suppose you was to see a sample of any kiln dried wheat from any other manufactory should you know the difference? - I think I should know it from any other manufactory; our positive orders is, to dry it as high as possibly we can, even the East India company don't dry it so high as we do.

Q. In this manufactory I take it for granted there are a great number of people employed? - Only two lately, Gamble and Low, they are both off.

Q. Those who had access to this manufactory most probably were persons that played these practices? - I never see any man with them but this prisoner, I have seen him continually with these people.

Mr. Knowlys. My friend has been asking you about corn for exportation; is there any other person that has corn of this sort but yourself? - About nine months ago there was an order thrown out to a miller who lives about thirty miles off.

Prisoner. I leave it to my counsel, I had nothing from the mill to the best of my knowledge at all, the sacks that were found, one of the millers left them at my house, when it thundered and lightened, and he asked me to carry them down to the mills when I went to work; he took it to shelter himself. Don't sling the sacks on me because I am not deserving of it.

The prisoner called five witnesses who gave him a good character.

GUILTY . (Aged 23.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-59

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442. SARAH BIRD was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of July , four silk handkerchiefs, value 4s. a cotton window curtain, value 10s. and a linen table cloth, value 6s. the goods of William Bryan .

The case opened by Mr. Alby.


I live in George-street, Westminster , I am an attorney . I hired the prisoner at the bar about August last, in the beginning; she had lived in my service twice before; I had missed a variety of silk handkerchiefs and shirts of mine, and a servant of mine that had lived with me a vast number of years, he informed me that he believed the prisoner was the thief; and it was determined that the prisoner should quit my service, in consequence of property that I had missed. On Friday, the 4th of July, I went out in the afternoon, and did not come home very early, it might be between twelve and one o'clock; when I came home I found that she had been

endeavouring to get away, in my absence; when I came home I found the prisoner up in a room, and I asked her to let me examine her box; this she refused to do; on which I called up one of the other servants, and I asked him to give me the poker into the room; she still persisted, and I broke open the box with the poker; when I had so broke it open, I desired her to let me see what was there; and after she had taken out several things, there were several sheets of paper appeared at the bottom of the box, white fools cap paper, and letter paper; I happened to have a cane in my hand, and I put it down on the paper, and I found it gave way, on which I desired her to take off the paper, which she did, and then I came to a parchment deed, which she had pushed down, round against the sides of the box; I said, I don't believe this is the bottom of the box; on which I put down my hand, and found all these things at the bottom, which I now produce, four silk handkerchiefs, a cotton window curtain, and a linen table cloth; they are my property, the handkerchief was marked W. B. she picked out the B. but it is plain to be seen; the window curtain I know the pattern, I have five or six of them; the table cloth was marked with my name on it, the W is picked out, but it plain to be seen. I called in the watchman, and she was carried to Tothill fields.

Mr. Const. How many curtains had you of that sort? - Seven, I have only three left; we found the fringe of the rest at the prisoner's father's house in Ryegate.

Court. Was the other servant you spoke of just now, a man servant or a maid servant? - A man-servant, he is not here.

Mrs. BRYAN sworn.

I was present when the box was broke open; I saw these things taken out of the box, to the best of my belief, they are all my property; as to the curtains I have not the least doubt.


When the prisoner at the bar was brought to the watch-house, in St. Margaret's Church-yard, about two o'clock Saturday morning, the 5th of this month, by the watchman, attended by Mr. Bryan; Mr. Bryan made a charge of felony against her; at the same time the watchman delivered a key to me; I have not the key now. These things were under lock and key that night, and I went the next morning, unlocked the place, and found this property; I have had it in my possession ever since.

- sworn.

I am the watchman; Mr. Bryan called me between the hours of one and two o'clock in the morning, on Saturday the 5th last, I went to him and asked him what was the matter? he said, he had a servant that had robbed him. I went into Mr. Bryan's house, and went up stairs with him, and he shewed me some handkerchiefs, which I believe these are the same, that he said he had taken from the prisoner.

Q. Was the prisoner by at that time? - No, she was up stairs above at that time.

Q. Did he shew you any thing besides? - Not at that present time.

Q. Did he at any other time? - Not that night, but he did when the box was opened, and the things were found; that was about eleven o'clock Saturday morning.

Q. Did not you know nothing of any other articles till the next morning eleven o'clock? - The over night he locked them up, and gave me the key, and told me there were other things; but I did not see them that night,

Court to Bryan. What time was it you took these things of the woman? - On the 4th of July, between one and two o'clock, between Friday and Saturday. The boxes that the watchman spoke to, were three other boxes, which were not examined that night.

Prisoner. I leave it all to my counsel.

Court to Bryan. Had you any character with her? - Yes, I had, of a gentleman, in the Borough, that she had lived with, and she had lived with me twice before, and I always considered her as a very good servant.

Jury. Was the key of the box found in her pocket? - She would not deliver it up, she had it in her pocket; the key I gave to the watchman was the key of the cupboard, where I locked up the things that night.

GUILTY . (Aged 24.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-60
VerdictNot Guilty > no prosecutor

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443. DAVID MORGAN was indicted for stealing, on the 2d of July , a piece of fir timber, value 3s. the goods of William Thurgood , and Mary Trumble .

William Thurgood and witnesses were called on their recognizances.


16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-61
VerdictNot Guilty

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444. THOMAS HOMEDEN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on 16th of July , two mens leather shoes, value 5s. a pair of mens upper leathers, value 1s. the the goods of John Disney , privately in his shop .


I am a shoe-maker ; I live in Duke's court, Drury-lane . On Wednesday evening last, about eight o'clock, the prisoner came to my shop, he came and asked me if I had seen Bill Starling? he is a young man that lives next door to me; I told him that I saw him about an hour ago, I had then seen him at his father's house, I told him he had better go into the house, and see him; he told me he would rather wait in my shop till he came out. I was very busy, packing up some goods for a young gentleman in the Temple; part of the things that belonged to that young man, were in a large press, and I went and opened a large pair of folding doors, to look for the remainder of the things, and the prisoner, in the interim, went away; I did not see him go. but as soon as he shut the door to, I missed him; I went to the window and see him pass; I live in the middle of the court, between Drury-lane and Bow-street, it leads out of one into the other, I see him run up into the court, I went after him; when he got to the top of the court, I missed him, but a person told me that that young man that came out of my shop, was gone in next door; I went there, and there I found him, and he was pulling a shoe out of his pocket; I said, you have taken some of my shoes; he said, yes, I have taken one, and here it is, I only took it in fun, and meant to bring it back; that is not all you have got, says I, I told him I had lost so many things, that I was determined to take him back. I took him back and I found these two shoes on him, one in one pocket and the other in the other; I took one out of his pocket myself; these are the shoes they are my property,

I know them by the writing on them, they are not fellows, I have the fellows; he used very frequently to come into the shop, he is no business at all. I know nothing more than I have had some of his friends call on me since, but I never saw them before; I never saw one of his relations till yesterday or the day before.

Mr. Knowlys. That is half true and half not; it is true in words, but false in spirit. What value do you put on those odd shoes? - Five shillings.

Q. If you was to purchase them, would you give five shillings for them? - More money; but I would with, from the intercession that has been made to me by his friends, that you would shew him every indulgence you can.

Q. The question I put to you is, whether you would give five shillings for them two shoes? - Yes, I would give seven shillings for there two odd shoes.

Q. Besides these, I see there is a pair of mens upper leathers? - They were in one of the shoes.

Q. Can you swear to them? - I could if I was to see them; I finished them while the prisoner was in the shop; they went at the same time, but I never got them back again, and many other things.

Q. I did my duty for you before; I think I recollect your face before? - Very possibly you might.

Q. Where do you think I recollect seeing your face? - I cannot tell; you may have seen me in my shop perhaps.

Q. I never dealt with you, and I assure you I never will. Cannot you guess some other place? - It may be a great many places, perhaps; you might have seen me in Covent-garden Theatre.

Q. I may to be sure. Now I will guess where I see you, the last place an honest man should stand, at the bar of the Old Bailey? - When was that?

Q. About four or five years ago? - What was it for?

Q. I will try if I can guess. I can guess that a man, by the name of Disney, was prosecuted, by his own uncle, for forging on him, or something of that sort? - It was not for murder.

Q. Do I guess right? - You do not, you guess wrong.

Q. You was a very fashionable man once, went by the name of Count Disney. Do you swear that you was not prosecuted in this place for forgery? - I have not had an uncle for these ten years.

Q. It was not by an uncle, then, perhaps, it was by a master; then you was prosecuted by your master for forgery? - Was I guilty of it? there is the case.

Q. Do you ask me my opinion of it? - No, I don't ask you any thing about it.

Q. Was not you prosecuted by your master? - Certainly.

Q. You was acquitted of the forgery, but your master indicted you for the fraud, at Clerkenwell? - My master did not.

Q. Who did prosecute you for fraud, at Clerkenwell? - I was not prosecuted there.

Q. Where was you prosecuted, on the oath you have taken? - I was not prosecuted there.

Q. On the solemn oath you have taken, where was you prosecuted? - There was a bill of indictment preferred against me here.

Q. What was the bill of indictment for? - I don't know what it was for rightly.

Q. Was you convicted of that or no? - I was.

Q. Did you suffer a year's imprisonment on it or no? - I did.

Q. What did they say it was for? What did they charge you with? - With signing a man's name, which I never did.

Q. But, I believe, that man said that he never signed that name, and they said

you signed it for him? - I don't know how that was.

Q. Don't you know how that was, when you was tried and convicted. Why then we must try you and convict you again, for there is no other way to brush up your memory. I believe you undertook to prosecute this man for petit larceny? - I believe he was committed for petit larceny, but I signed nothing.

Q. I see from a petit larceny you have changed it to a capital offence. Did not you authorise Mr. Dyke to go to the friends of this lad, and tell them that if they paid you two guineas, you would not indict him at all? - No, I did not. Mr. Dyke is at the door, call him in.

Q. You will recollect that, I don't want to take you by surprise. To your knowledge Mr. Dyke never made such an offer? - No, he did not; they came and offered me any sum if I would not prosecute.

Q. When they came to you, did not you acknowledge that you sent Dyke to them? - No, I did not.

Q. You did not then add that if the twenty pounds were not given, you would prosecute for a capital offence? - No, I never said so.

Q. You knew this lad very well a long time? - I knew him from Christmas but I did not know his friends before.

Q. And you knew Bill Starling very well? - Yes.

Q. He is a person that is backward and forward very often? - He very frequently called in.

Q. Now the prisoner said, when you overtook him, and he was pulling out the shoes, that he was only playing with you, he only meant it in a joke? - Yes, after I found he had got the property on him, when he see me come into the passage, he put his hand into his pocket directly.

Q. The boy was very well known, and you knew where to find him? - No, I did not know he had any lodgings at all.

Q. Is there a day in the week in which you have not seen him? - I believe if I had not seen him so often it would have been better for me; I see him very frequently, but not every day.

Q. Another thing I would ask you, as you are a compassionate man; I believe before the magistrate you pitied him very much; did not you make great expressions of compassion towards this lad? - No, I did not.

Q. Did not you say you was sorry for him? - No, not at all. I told the magistrate that I had been very frequently robbed, and amongst the duplicates that were found there was a brush that I had lost.

Q. The magistrate committed him for a petit larceny, and you have now compassionately indicted him for a capital offence. Was not you bound over to prosecute for a petit larceny? - I was not. I conceive that in law I was not bound over, for I signed nothing.

Q. Was it not said to you that you acknowledged yourself to be indebted to our Lord the King, on condition that you should prosecute this man? - That was mentioned.

Q. Was not you bound over to prosecure him for petit larceny at that time? - I did not sign any paper or book at that time.

Q. The man was committed for petit larceny? - He was.

Prisoner. I leave it to my counsel.


I am no relation to this lad, nor ever exchanged five words with him in my life; I am a watch-maker, in Cecilcourt, St. Martin's-lane; I live with my father, but I carry on the watch-making business distinct; I know a man of the name of Dyke, I was at Mrs. Moore's,

in Princess-street, Thursday evening last, I believe she is sister to the prisoner; it was the evening of that day on which the boy was committed; Dyke was there, he said, that he came from Mr. Disney, respecting the prosecution of Homeden, that Mr. Disney was concerned for the friends of the lad, and for the lad, and that he was willing not to prosecute, and that he would not prosecute him if Homeden's friends would pay him twenty pounds, as an indemnification, and that if the twenty pounds was not given, he would then prosecute him at the Old Bailey, that he would not find the bill according to the instructions of the magistrate, but he would value the goods at five shillings, enough to make it capital; he said, he would go as far as he would; and, I think, he said he would make it capital. This gave rise to conversation, whether he would ever be sued or have any thing to pay; it was mentioned to Dyke, if in case they had any inclination to give Disney the money, suppose they gave him a note instead of the money, whether that would do; Mr. Dyke said, that would be compounding felony, and we never can recover on such a note.

Q. This gentleman is a precious limb of the law. Was the proposal rejected or acceeded to? - It was rejected.

Q. In consequence of this you was advised to go to Mr. Disney to know if Dyke came with his authority or not? - Yes, I went there with Mr. Homeden, a relation of the prisoner's, yesterday morning; I did not ask the business direct; in the course of a few minutes I asked him if he had seen Dyke since he was at Princess-street, at Mrs. Moore's house, since last night? he said, that when Mr. Dyke returned, he was not at home when he came in the first time, and when he came in the second time, he, Disney, had gone to bed, and that he had not seen him; Mr. Dyke was not in the room, I had not understood that he lived in the house till then; he afterwards came down stairs, from some part of the house, and came into the room. I asked Mr. Dyke if he would use his influence with Mr. Disney, to get him carried to the quarter session? he said, he had not spoke to him, but as I was there I had better speak myself. I mentioned to Mr. Disney that the magistrate had instructed him, and that he could not act wrong, if he abode by his instructions, for I heard the examination.

Q. Did Disney admit or deny in the course of the conversation, that Dyke came by his authority or not? - He admitted it. The business was again resumed respecting the note, and the present of the note, Dyke directly replied it cannot be done, it will be compounding felony, it is against the law; he said, that two men could not enter into an agreement to murder a man; on Dyke saying this Mr. Disney took part in the conversation, and said, that he remembered an instance when he was at the Oldbailey, of a woman being brought forward who did not prosecute some person, and that a letter was fens to her, that he left Mr. Shelton talking to a woman, telling her the consequence, that it was very bad; I went on purpose to know whether Dyke came by his authority or not. When I said his friends would give no money, Disney replied, if I was to take money I don't know whether I should do right.


Tried by the first Middlesex jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-62

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445. THOMAS DAWSON was indicted for stealing, on the 11th of July , a metal and shagreen cased watch, value 1l. the goods of William Brady .


I live in Cursitor-street; returning into Cursitor-street , on the 11th of July, I found a mob round my door; I went into my shop, a man that was in the shop asked me whether the watch that was in his hand belonged to me? I told him I could swear it to be my watch; he said, he had found it on a man in the street; he had the man with him, and I gave charge of the man.

Q. When had you seen it last? - When I went out into the City. I always hang it over the fire place in the parlour.


I am the wife. On Friday the 11th of July, my husband went into the City, and I, thinking he staid long, went to dinner without him; the apprentice was in the parlour with me, and the prisoner came in, and said, that I had a bill in the window, lodgings to let for single men. I said, yes; says he, can I see them? yes, says I, you can. I told the apprentice to go up and shew him; the apprentice went up with the young man, which was the prisoner at the bar, and shewed him the room; I still remained eating my dinner; when he came down, he said, what is it a week? I told him five shillings a week; says I, young man, what is your trade? I am afraid it is too much for you; says he, I am a painter and glazier; says I, if you had another young man to partake of half the bed with you it would make it better; he wished me good day, and went out. In the course of a quarter of an hour, he returned with a young man; says he, I have met an acquaintance since I parted with you, that will be partaker of the room with me; very well, says I, young man; says he, he wants to see the room; the apprentice was eating his dinner, and I was done, and I went up and shewed the young man the apartment; I had the child in my arms, suckling at the same time; I went up, and the other young man be followed me, and the prisoner at the bar went up two or three steps, he then said, I have seen it before, I have no occasion to go up; returning down again, I saw the prisoner sitting in a chair, in the parlour, and I walks into the shop with the other young man, and left the prisoner and apprentice in the parlour; I went into the shop to ask where I should get his character; and the prisoner at the bar came out before the other had quite given his direction, the apprentice hallooed lustily to me, ma'am, have you got your watch? No, says I, I have not; the prisoner flew out of doors, and I said, that is the man that has got the watch; and I flew after him, and cried stop thief! and the apprentice likewife. On considering myself that I had left one of his companions in doors, and thinking at the same time that he might do me more injury; returning again I met the other young man, his confederate in the street; says he, what has he done? says I, why robbed me of my watch, which hung over the fire place for many months. I went in doors and laid the child down that I had in my arms, and went out again, and met the prisoner at the bar with a young man that is here, bringing him back to the house, and I laid hold too, and said, that was the man; and he brought him back into the house; I saw the watch produced; I believe it was taken from him, but I did not see it.

Q. When did you next see your watch? - I saw it at Bow-street, the

young man produced it who took hold of him, John Hutchinson.


I was coming along Chancery lane, I heard the cry of stop thief! by a neighbour's boy; says I, who is it? he says, that is him; and he ran up White's-alley, and I went and caught hold of him; it was the prisoner at the bar, the boy said, that is him; in the interim Mrs. Brady came up, and said, that is the rascal that has got my watch; I brought him into Cursitor-street, to Mrs. Brady's; the prisoner told me he would produce the property, if I would let him go. After he had been in the shop a little time, I saw by his left hand a powder sieve, and it appeared to me he was putting the watch into the powder sieve; I took the watch out of the sieve into my hand, and asked Mrs. Brady if it was her's? she said, Yes; Mr. Brady immediately came in, and I asked him if it was his watch? he said, if it is not my watch, it is my wife's watch, and that is all the same; and a constable came in, and Mr. Brady gave charge of the prisoner; the prisoner was searched, but there was nothing else found upon him; he was examined at Bow-street, and I attended the examination.

Jury. Did you see him put it into the sieve? - It appeared to me as if he was putting it out of his left hand pocket into the sieve, and there it was, I took it up, I dare say, as soon as it was in the sieve.


I am apprentice to Mr. Brady; the prisoner asked me if the watch went too fast, while I was eating my dinner, and I told him no; and my mistress was coming down stairs, and I see him take the watch down; immediately I hallooed out to her, and he ran out of the shop directly, and I after him.

Prisoner. I had not the watch in my possession at all; when I was brought back to the shop they began to search me, and one of the evidences against me, he looked into the sieve, and he said, here is the watch, and said I laid it in the sieve.


Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-63
VerdictNot Guilty

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446. SARAH POWELL was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of July , a cotton gown, value 3s. a looking glass in a gilt frame, value 12s. the goods of Sarah Swinerton .


I lost a cotton gown and looking glass, on Wednesday last; the duplicate of the gown has been found in the prisoner's name; I am a lodger on the same floor with the prisoner, No. 1, Porter-street, Newport-market ; I saw the things about ten minutes before two, on Wednesday last; I went out and locked my door; I did not return till about a quarter past nine, when I missed this property, the gown, and glass in a gilt frame; I knew the prisoner before by living on the the same floor with me, in the same house.

Q. What is the prisoner? How does the get her livelihood? - By shoe binding and shoe closing. I believe. The gown I have seen since, but not glass.


I produce a gown. On Wednesday last, in the afternoon, a person came to

our shop, and wanted half a crown on this gown, (to the best of my knowledge the prisoner at the bar is the person) she had two shillings on it; I am servant to Mr Parker, No it Prince's-street, Leicester Fields; I had not seen her before to my knowledge; but I have little doubt in my own mind; I should not like to swear positively, but there are circumstances, she seemed in a great deal of trouble; she said, she had a child lying ill at Kensington or Brompton, and wanted to go and see it; she pledged the gown in the name of Mrs. Powell, which appears to be her own name.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-64
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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447. ESTHER SPENCER was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of July , two silver salt holders, value 18s. two silver salt spoons, value 2s. two silver pepper castors, value 1l. a silver table spoon, value 14s. the goods of Jacob Ruffy .


On the 17th of this month, I lost some two silver pepper castor, two silver salts, two silver spoons, and a silver table spoon; I was not in the way when they were taken; I had seen them before I went out, I went out about a quarter after two, I was going out to dinner, I had seen them in the forenoon on our side board; I know nothing at all of the prisoner, she was quite a stranger to me; they were missing near three, before I came home; and when I came home, I was informed of the circumstance.

Q. When did you next see this property? - In the constable's hands.


I am an apprentice to Mr. Ruffy, he is a taylor ; I was at work in the afternoon, and master's daughter came up, and told me that a person had been in the parlour and taken part of the plate away, and I came down stairs, and a servant of the house told me which way she had run; and I went out and caught her near Bethnall-green; my master lives in Wilkes's-street, Spitalfields; I took her in Air-street, and brought her back to the place where she had taken the property from, and found two pepper castors in her bolom, and the two salt cellars and two salt spoons, and a table spoon were in her pocket; I see them taken from her.


I live near the prosecutor; there is a brass knob a the outside of the door to lift up the latch; I saw the prisoner lift it up and go into the parlour, and she came out again to the door, and then returned to it again; then I thought she was a bad woman; I went to call Mr. Ruffy's daughter, and she sent the apprentice after the prisoner.


I am a constable; the prisoner was searched in my presence; there was found on her two pepper castors in her bosom, two salts, two salt spoons, and a table spoon, all silver; I have got them here.

Prosecutor. They are all my property.

The prisoner called three witnesses who gave her a good character.

Prisoner. It is the first offence I ever did in my life, I hope you will forgive me.

GUILTY . Death . (Aged 19.)

Recommended to mercy by the Jury and prosecutor, because she had a good character from her master, and appeared never before to transgress.

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-65
VerdictNot Guilty

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448. CHARLES VICARS was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of June , a coachman's cloth coat, value 1l. the goods of Samuel Palmer .


I know the prisoner at the bar; I am an hackney coachman; I saw the prisoner go to this Samuel Palmer 's coach, and I saw him open the door and take the coat out, and I followed the coach up the rank, the coach was in the rank; I went and informed the coachman, Palmer, of it, he was not in the house; I told the waterman of it, and he went to his yard to tell him of it; I am sure of that is the man that took it.


I am constable of St. James's, Clerken-well; I had information that the prisoner had stole this coat; I apprehended him, but never saw the coat, and Mr. Palmer came down to Hatton-garden office, and swore to his losing a coat; Palmer presented the bill on Monday, and since then he has gone down into Scotland.

Q. To Price. Whose coach was it? - Mr. Harriott's, of Snug-lane.

Q. How did you know this was Palmer's coat? - Because he told me so.

Q. Did you ever see him wear it? - No, I did not.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-66
VerdictNot Guilty

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449. ELIZABETH HARTFIELD was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of July , thirty-nine guineas, two half guineas, a piece of foreign gold coin, value 1l. 16s. a cotton bag, value 1d. the goods and monies of John Linsted , in the dwelling house of John Clarke .


I was robbed the 6th of July, I lost thirty-nine guineas, two half guineas, and a half jole, worth about thirty-five shillings, and a small bag the money was in. I was coming down Holborn , it was on Sunday night, I met this woman and another one, and they asked me where I was going? I told them on board; they asked me if I would stay with them? I told them if they would let me go to bed I would. I had my money in my right hand waistcoat pocket; I am a seaman; I had been drinking a little, but I was not drunk; I know the person again, it was between eleven and twelve o'clock, I went to a place they call Black Boy-alley, to Mr. Clarke's house, a private house.

Q. Did the two women go along with you? - Yes, both women.

Q. Did you meet with any others by the way? - No, nobody. When I got to Mr. Clarke's, they shewed me a bed; I laid down, and both women laid down along side of me; I never pulled my clothes off, I fell asleep directly, and never waked till four o'clock in the morning, and they were both gone; I came out of doors, I did not know where to go, I had not a farthing in the world.

Q. When did you miss your money? - Directly as I awoke.

Q. When had you last felt your money, before you went with these two women? - About three quarters of an hour before that, when I stopped to buy some fruit.

Q. Where had you come from? - From Baldwin's-lane, Gray's Inn-lane, and I was going on board at Iron Gate.

Q. Who had you met with in the way before you met with these two women? - Nobody.

Q. What had you been doing at Gray's Inn lane? - I was acquainted with a young man there, and I changed half a guinea, in Baldwin's-court, to buy the children some fruit; this was about three quarters of an hour before I met these women.

Q. What did you do after you lost your money? - There was a man at the door, and he told me it was a very bad house; how came I to go there? and he took me to a constable; and I did not find any of them that day; I staid from going on board all that day, to look for them; in about a week after the constable found the prisoner; I never saw any money again, not the six and thirty shilling piece. I am quite sure the prisoner was one of them.

Q. You see nothing of the other woman? - No.

Q. Then you cannot tell whether this woman or the other took your money? - No, I cannot tell.


I was standing at the end of Black Boy-alley, and this woman and another wanted this sailor to go down this alley, it was about twelve o'clock, as nigh as I can guess; I knew both the women; I have been in search of the other ever since, but I cannot find her; I hear she has gone down to Fortsmouth; I am the patrol, I goes on there at nine o'clock; they seeing of me, they walked up the lane; he walked up the lane first, and they followed him. We took the woman last Sunday, in Eagle and Child-alley.


I am a constable. A man in sailor's clothes came to me, on Monday morning, and said, that he had been robbed by two women, of about forty guineas and half a jole; I asked him if he knew who it was? he said it was down in Black Boy-alley; says I, do you think you should know the people again? he said, he was sure he should know them both; says I, was you drunk? he said, he had been drinking a little; I asked him if he knew he had the money when he laid down with them? he said he felt it when he laid down. I searched about with him the whole day, but did not find either of them that day, but last Sunday I took the prisoner in the Eagle and Child-alley.

Prisoner. I never saw the man in my life before, till that gentleman came and took me out of my room, any more than any strange gentleman that is in this place.


Tried by the London Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-67
VerdictNot Guilty

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453. ISAAC LING was indicted for that he on the 31st of October , about the hour of eight in the night of the same day, being in the dwelling house of Elizabeth Whiston , widow , feloniously did steal a cloth coat, value 2l. 12s. the goods of Norman Meakins; and three linen shirts, value 1l. 10l. two linen shirts, value 14s. four muslin neckcloths, value 10s. two dimity waistcoats, value 10s. a pair of silk stockings, value 8s. two cotton napkins value 2s. a linen pillow case, value 2s. the goods of Jacob Shannon . And that he afterwards having done and committed the said felony; about the same hour, from the said dwelling house burglariously did break and get out of the same .


I live in the house of Elizabeth Whiston, she lets out lodgings, I was a lodger there.

Q. Was the prisoner a lodger there? - I don't know that, I know when I came to my lodgings that night about twelve o'clock, I cannot tell exactly the day, I think it was the latter end of October; when I came into the house the gentlewoman told me that my trunk was broke open, I found it broke open, I lost three shirts, I value them at one pound ten shillings, they cost me fifteen shillings a piece, two shirts value fourteen shillings.

Q. Were they your wife's shirts? - No, I had them in my charge, they were none of mine; four neckcloths, two jean waistcoats, two pair of silk stockings, two cotton napkins and a pillow case, the muslin neckcloths are worth about ten shillings, they cost me four shillings more than that, two pair of silk stockings value eight shillings they are second hand; and the napkins two shillings; I saw them the morning before I went away from the lodgings, I have not seen them at all since.

Mr. Knowlys. This is a common lodging house? - It is.

Q. A great number of different lodgers continually coming and going? - No.

Q. How many different lodgers have you in the house? - About five.

Q. Any body that wants a nights lodging may come there and have one? - No, no strangers are taken in the house, nor have been for many years.


I keep this house, the house was broke open between seven and eight o'clock on Tuesday night, the prisoner took the lodging on the Monday, the day before that Tuesday; on Tuesday he came in with a large bundle of straw and rubbish, and took it up stairs, and left it there, and broke open the trunk, and took away Mr. Shannon's things.

Q. How do you know that? - I am sure of it, because I was the last person that had been up stairs, and I was the first up there again after him.

Q. What is your reason for thinking this man broke open the trunk? - There was no other person up stairs.

Q. When was the last time you saw this trunk safe? - When I was up stairs making the beds in the forenoon about eleven o'clock.

Q. To Shannon. What time of the morning did you go out? - About seven o'clock.

Q. When did you first discover this trunk to be broke open? - About nine o'clock at night.

Q. To Mrs. Whiston. What makes you think it was the prisoner? - There was no other person up stairs, neither man, woman, nor child at that time.

Q. Will you take upon yourself to swear that there was neither man, woman, nor child up stairs besides the prisoner, from eleven o'clock in the forenoon, till nine at night? - I am sure there was not.

Q. How many lodgers had you? - Five; they were all out.

Q. Have you any servant? - No.

Q. Any children grown up? - Three two boys and a girl. The eldest boy is twenty-three; the girl is sixteen, and the youngest boy is turned of twelve. The two eldest were out at work; the eldest son was at work in Fieldgate-street, Whitechapel; the youngest son was at home, he was the only person in the house with me; my daughter was at work in Moorfields. There was a lodger up the one pair of stairs, a woman with a child, her husband was out at work, she was there all the time.

Q. How far up was Shannon's room? - Two pair of stairs.

Q. Tell me the reason again, why you suspect this man? - There was no other person to do it; the gentlewoman was not out of the house all the time, she was in her own room busy at work.

Q. Has any property been found? - None.

Q. What do you know of this cloth coat of Norman Meakins? - It was in the dining room I missed it out of; I saw it when I was up making the beds.

Q. You say he came with a large bundle of straw; do you know for what purpose he made use of the straw? - No; when he brought it he asked for a candle, but he did not come into the room where I was.

Q. Did he go up stairs? - Yes; he staid there about half an hour; he came down again, and blowed the candle out coming down stairs, and said he would be in about nine o'clock; but he came in no more.

Q. When was the next time you saw him? - It is a fortnight ago last Monday.

Q. Then he did not break open any thing? - He broke open the trunk up stairs.

Q. But he did not break open any part of the house? - He did not at all. When I saw him the Monday fortnight last, he wanted to make his escape from me very much, before he was taken into custody, before I got an officer for him, and I followed him about an hour before I got a constable.

Q. What prevented him making his escape? - I followed him all the time; if he had set up a run he might have gone; but I might have given an alarm.

Mr. Knowlys. You never saw this man before in your life? - Never before he came to take the lodgings.

Q. And this man, whom you suppose to be the man, you did not see till about eight months after this happened?

Court. How long had he been in your lodgings? - Only one night. When he came first to take the lodging, he said, he was a coachman; and at night when he came in, I said, you have not brought your clothes with you; he said, no he had not, but he should on the morrow.

Mr. Knowlys. He slept that night, and went away early in the morning, and you did not see him? - I did not.

Court. And then he returned again at night? - He did.


I am the son of the last witness; I was out at work at the time; I know that is the prisoner at the bar that took my mother's lodgings; I came home between nine and ten o'clock, I followed him in; he had got in before me, and when I came in, my mother said, that is the young man that is to sleep with you, and pointed at me; he turned about, and said, very well; and mother told him if he would stop a bit, I should go with him, when I had done my supper; this was the night before the trunk was broke open; I slept with him that night.

Q. Do you know any thing that passed the night after? - I do not; I am positive he is the man.

Mr. Knowlys. Was not there a man shewn to you very much like him? - No, he was not like him, only he had a cut in his lip.

Q. You had never seen the man before he was in these lodgings? - No,

not this man. I did not see him afterwards till he was taken, and I knew him directly I see him.


I am the daughter.

Q. Is that the man that took the lodgings the 31st of October last? - Yes, that is the man that came to go to bed; I see him that night.

Mr. Knowlys. The only opportunity you had of seeing him was when be came in for a candle? - I see him then.

The prisoner called four witnesses who gave him a very good character.


Tried by the London Jury before

Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-68

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451 ELIZABETH THOMAS was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of July , twelve shillings, and one base shilling, and three six-pences ; the monies of Edward Leigh .


On the 6th of this month, I lost fourteen shillings, being three six-pences, twelve good shillings, and one bad shilling, and one shilling marked J. P. upon it; I lost them in Black Boy-alley ; it was Saturday night, and I went to buy a bit of meat, and I met a fellow servant of mine, it being Saturday night, we went and had a pint of beer together; after I had parted with my fellow servant I made my way right up Holborn, home, and this girl followed, it was about twelve o'clock at night, she followed me, and I met with a patrol that I was acquainted with, and he asked me to give him a glass of gin, and she came up and asked for a glass, and so I called for half a pint of gin, and we drank it between us.

Q. How much had you drank before? - Three pots between three of us, at the corner of Field-lane; then I bid them good night, after I had paid for the gin and made the best of my way home; and she followed me again, and she says, young man, as you are late, you had better go home along with me; I said, as I am late, I don't care if I do, if I could get a bed. So she pretended she could get me a bed, and she went to a house in Chick-lane, and asked for a bed, and the person he looked out of the window, and said, no, I will not have any such person as you; then she said, follow me, and I can get a bed for you; and I followed her to Black Boy-alley, and I took and set myself against the wall, and we talked together, and I felt my money while she was talking to me, and she went away from me; and I felt and found my money was gone.

Q. Where did you feel you had your money? - In Black Boy-alley.

Q. Was there any other woman with her then? - No, there was not.

Q. How long was it after you treated her with the gin that you missed your money? - I suppose about an hour and a half.

Q. Had you your money in your pocket when you paid for the gin? - Yes.

Q. And you are very sure you felt it afterwards in Black Boy alley? - Yes.

Q. Did you perceive her do any thing about your pocket? - No, I did not.

Q. How long was she with you after you felt your money? - Not above ten minutes after I felt my money; I stood

by the side of the wall, and she stood by the side of me.

Q. Was your money loose in your pocket? - No, in a purse.

Q. Have you ever seen your money or purse since, or the shilling that was marked? - Yes, I have seen it at Guildhall.

Q. Do you know any thing more of the matter? - came out and told the patrol I had been robbed; very well says he, if you have I will get one or two of my mates, and we will go and see if we can find the girl, and I went with them, and she was taken the very same morning.


I am the watchman. About half after two o'clock, on the 6th of this month, I was calling the half hour, the prosecutor and the prisoner came up Chick-lane, they knocked at Mr. Ford's door, and he looked out of window, and they asked for a lodging; and he told them he had got never a bed empty; and them they went down Black Boy-alley; about five minutes after the prosecutor came up the alley again, and told me he had been robbed; I told him to wait till my fellow servants came down, and then we would go and seek after the woman; as soon as my fellow servants came down we did go, and searched after her, and went and searched three houses in the alley before we found her; in the foarth house we found her in a room where nobody lived, it is a room belonging to one Mr. Clarke; we searched the room, and we found three shillings and sixpence, and in her stocking I found twelve shillings and six pence, thirteen shillings and six-pence in all, on her left leg, I pulled it off, and emptied it into the window, and I asked the man if he knew any money? he said he knew one shilling marked I. P. and a brass shilling. There was one marked I. P. among the twelve; this is it. I then took her into custody to the watch-house, and from thence to the justice the next day.


I am a patrol of St. Sepulchre's; I met this man as I was coming down into West-street; he said, he had been robbed by a woman; and Rice was along with me; I said, if you have been robbed we will go and search for her; I went into the stable to search for her; we did not find her first, we found her in a room where an old bed was, and we searched her, and my fellow servant found the money in her stocking; I saw him turn the money out into the window, it was twelve shillings; and three shillings and six-pence was found about the room.

Prisoner. That man owes me a great grudge, because it is not long ago since he beat me, and paid a crown for it, and he owes me a grudge for that.


I am a patrol belonging to St. Sepulchre's; I was going my round, on my duty, as near as I can recollect, it was half after three in the morning, I was going down Chick-lane, towards this place where the watchman was; he comes up to me, he says, here is a man that has been robbed; is there? says I, where is he? says the watchman, he is down below; says I, let me see him. When I came to him I asked him what have you lost? says he, fourteen shillings; says I, can you swear to the woman if you see her again? he says, yes, he could. We went down directly in pursuit or the woman; we found her in a room on an old bedstead; I held her while they searched her; they found in her hands three shillings and six-pence, knocked it out of her hands on the floor,

by the watchman, because she would not let it go; the three shillings and sixpence then she dropped on the ground, and it was picked up; William Jones says to me, I will search her shoes; says I, do. With that he searched her right shoe and stocking, and nothing was found; on her left foot and stocking there was the money; William Jones said, here is the money; I am sure; we found twelve shillings and three silver sixpences, and then we carried her to the watch-house.


I know nothing but taking the charge; I was the constable of the night; the prisoner and money was delivered to my charge, and I have had the money in my custody ever since; here is more money than the brewer's servant has declared to losing here is seventeen shillings in the whole, with the bad shilling and three six-pences; fifteen shillings and four six-pences, all included; and here is the purse.

Prisoner. This night I was in Holborn, and I had got never an apron on, and a gentleman came by and asked me what was the matter? I told him I was very much distressed, and he asked me to go into a coach with him, and into the coach he put me first, and got into the coach After me; in the coach the gentleman asked me if I had got any parents? I told him I had not; he asked me if I had got any clothes? I told him I had not, I was very much distressed indeed. after he got out of the coach he put his hand into his-pocket, and he said, here is all the silver I have, take it and get a few things with it, and he put me down; and the coachman was good enough to take me to Holborn again; and this man came up to me in Holborn, and asked me where I was going to? I told him I could not tell rightly where I was going to, I was in distress, and he asked me to have a glass with him; I had a glass with him and the patrol, and out I came, he came out with me, and we had a little talk together, and he asked me o get him a bed; I went to one Mr. Fods, in Chick lane, and there was never a bed convenient, and then we went to Black Boy-alley; he goes into Mr. Clarke's passage along with me, and he gave me a bad shilling; I knew it was not a good one by the feel of it; I told him of it, and he said he would give me another before he left me, and I went with him into the necessary, and obliged him according to his desire; with that he came back with me to the end of the court, and then he gave me another shilling, and then he left me, and I went up into the garret where I was found.

GUILTY . Death . (Aged 31.)

Tried by the London Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-69
VerdictNot Guilty

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452. MARY COLLYER the younger was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of June , two pen knives, value 6d. two child's clouts, value 1s. two guineas and nineteen shillings in monies numbered; and eighty-four pieces of copper, value 3s. the goods and monies of Richard Bullen .

(The case opened by Mr. Knowlys.)


I keep an oil shop in Fleet-street ; the prisoner was my servant . On Whit- Sunday, the 8th of June, that day I missed money twice; on the 8th of June, I deposited my money in my bureau, about eleven o'clock in the morning, thirteen guineas, in gold, in one small canvas bag, and three pounds two shillings and six-pence in silver, in another bag, sixpences, shillings, and half crowns; and halfpence I had in two separate draw

ers, to the amount of nine shillings and six-pence good, in one drawer, and nine shillings bad in another. After I had put my money into my bureau I locked it up and put the key in my pocket, it was under three locks where the money was, and the parlour was double locked, but the key left in the door, and the partition door was double locked, and I had the key in my pocket, Mrs. Bullen was gone to Church before I put my money there, and I went afterwards and joined her at Church.

Q. What family have you besides this servant? - Only a baby I left at home, and an apprentice, but he went out at nine o'clock in the morning, and I always give him leave to be out till nine o'clock at night. We intended to dine at Piccadilly, at my wife's father's, we intended to proceed to there from church; we never dine at home of a Sunday, we always dine out, and leave the prisoner at the bar in possession of the premises.

Q. Did you go from Church to your father-in-laws to dine? - No, we returned home, my wife being very poorly; she returned first, and I did not know it, and I saw my weekly porter, and he told me that his mistress was at the door, I came up to her, and found she had rung two or three times, and the door was not answered, I then rung for admittance, and about the second time the door was opened with the young child in the maid's arms, and she seemed very much in a flurry, my wife asked her the reason she had not come before? she said she had not heard the bell; my wife asked me for a key in the bureau, I went to unlock the bureau, and I perceived the bags were not precisely in the state in which I had put them, I gave my wife the keys of her drawers, she was on the stairs, I returned immediately to my bureau, and counted the money, and instead of thirteen guineas there were but twelve, instead of eight half crowns there were but six; it rather sturried me, and I put the bags back where I had put them before, and locked up the place, and put the key in my pocket.

Q. Did you leave the key of the parlour in the same stale as before? - I did.

Q. Did you at all at any time intimate any suspicion to the servant? - No, none to her, we went out afterwards to dine with my father, and returned in the evening betwen eight and nine, very near nine.

Q. When you returned had your apprentice returned? - He had just come in.

Q. How long was it before you went to your bureau again, on your second time returning? - About a quarter of an hour; instead of twelve guineas which I left at dinner time, there were only eleven, another guinea was gone, I counted the silver, the six half crowns was the same as I left them when I went out to dinner, then I counted the remainder of the silver, and there were fourteen shillings deficient of the silver, the good halfpence tastied right according to the paper, but when I came to count the bad ones there were three and six-pence wanting, there was only five shillings and six-pence left.

Q. On finding this loss did you communicate your suspicions to the servant that evening? - No, I did not, I took her up the next morning, I sent for at constable, Mr. Marsh, she was searched, there was nothing particular on her, except a key that will open a closet where I keep my candles.

Q. Did you search her boxes? - I was present when they were searched.

Q. How long after you had sent for the constable? - Somewhere about eleven, or half after; she had several boxes, four or five; there was found in one box a small

purse, which contained sixteen guineas, the officer gave her leave to take out her own things out of the box, in doing of that the officer perceived her going to conceal a small purse, I perceived it likewise, and the officer took it from her, and it contained fourteen guineas and four half guineas; there was a smallscrew box that contained some silver, six pences and shillings, I don't know exactly the quantity; there was found a pocket with about four shillings or better, of halfpence, I think they were chiefly bad ones, there was a small bag with farthings, there was a kind of a small cap box, where there was a pile of half crowns, one and twenty; in the large box I found two pen knives, and two childs clouts, they are in the custody of the officer. Mrs. Bullen knows the things, one knife I knew particular, the green handle one, the other knife and clouts Mrs. Bullen will speak to.

Mr. Knapp. This girl lived with you at this present time, and had lived with you two years? - She has lived with me upwards of two years altogether, but this last time she had lived about seven months, she lived the time before, a year and seven months.

Q. How long had elapsed between the time she lived before, and the present time? - About five weeks.

Q. I believe she came to live with you again on your own request? - Mrs. Bullen seemed desirous to have her again.

Q. The shop windows were all shut of course being Sunday? - Yes.

Q. Does the bell ring hard? - It rings loud.

Q. Is there any difficulty of making it ring when the shutters are up? - I heard it myself, it comes even with the kitchen door.

Q. Fleet street is a very busy street? - It was very quiet at that time.

Q. The maid servant must have come down stairs to have opened the door whenever she did come down? - She must.

Q. The money you will not identify? - I cannot.

Q. With respect to this green handled knife I take it for granted that you are only able to speak to it by its being green? - No, it is not; it is by knowing it a long time.

Q. What sort of a knife is this? - A small knife with two blades in it, of no value; Mrs. Bullen used to have it in her pocket; she had it when first I was married to her.


On Sunday I went to church before Mr. Bullen, and I was taken ill in the church, and returned earlier then usual; I rung five times at the bell, and could not gain admittance, and he rung twice, double rings, before we could gain admittance; when she came I asked her why she had not come before? she said, she was in the cellar; I said, she must be either dead or deaf; afterwards she-said, she was in the kitchen; afterwards she said, she was gone up to fetch the child, which lay in the two pair of stairs room. I afterwards asked Mr. Bullen for my keys, which were deposited in the bureau because I would not be cumbered with them; he gave me the keys; soon after I had been up stairs, Mr. Bullen came to me and informed me of the loss. After that I went to my father; we came from my father about eight, and were at home between eight and nine. On Monday morning we took this girl up; I was present when the box was searched; Mr. Marsh was the constable.

Q. What did you find in the box? - Two childs clouts, and two knives which I know to be mine, I have the clouts now, the constable gave them me yesterday afternoon, I have likewife two that correspond with the pattern; there is no

mark on them, but a particular method of making them, I know them by having loops at the corners, which is not a very usual way, there were two deficient, and I had repeatedly asked the prisoner for them, she said she did not know any thing of them.

Q. How long had you made enquiry after them before this discovery took place? - I should suppose ten or twelve months; they were lost with my first child.

Q. How long had you lost your knives? - A considerable time.

Q. Do you know the knives when you see them? - I do, they are both pen knives, I had made enquiry about the knives repeatedly; she said, she did not know any thing at all of them.

Q. Did you see the money found? - I did.

Mr. Knapp. Mrs Bullen, we are to understand that you swear to the clouts, not from your own work, but from these loops; you say that loops to clouts are not very usual things; I take it for granted you may have seen them before? - I never see any before with loops.


I am beadle of the ward; I was sent for to take charge of the prisoner, and search her boxes; I have a memorandom of what was found; in silver two pounds eighteen shillings and six-pence, in shillings and six-pences; in a little bag there was sixteen guineas in all, with some half guineas; I see her catch hold of something in her hand, which she endeavoured to conceal, and I catched fast hold of it from her; in that bag was the sixteen guineas, incloding some half guineas, I think four. There was farthings and halfpence in another part of the box, to the amount of four shillings and three-pence, among them was a silver sixpence. In another box there were twenty one half crowns piled upon one corner; there was five-pence farthing all in farthings in that box; in another there were fifteen pence in halfpence and farthings, and two shillings and three pence all in farthings; and in another place I see six tea spoons.

Q. Did you find any clouts? - Not that day; I think we took them out on Saturday the 5th of July, Mrs. Bullen said, she believed them to be her's, she had got some that tallied with them; and two little knives were found, which she said were both her's.

Mrs. Bullen. I know them to be mine, they are the two knives that were missing.

Bullen. I know this knife.

Prisoner. I never opened the place in my life, nor had I any key to open it; I never opened the partition door during, the time that my master was out, and I could not get to the bureau without it.

Court to Bullen. Was it necessary, in order to get to this bureau, to pass through this partition door? - Yes, it was, and the key was in my pocket.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-70
VerdictNot Guilty

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453. MARY COLLYER , the elder, and MARY COLLYER , the younger, were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 8th of June , five pounds weight of soap, value 2s. 6d. two pounds eight ounces weight of red lead, value 6d. a pound weight of tallow candles, value 8d. a pound and six ounces weight of starch, value 9d. the goods of Richard Bullen .(The case opened by Mr. Knowlys.)


I am an oilman ; I cannot say I missed these articles; in consequence of taking the daughter up, on Monday I went to the father and mother's house; I was present when these articles were found at the mother's, soap, red lead, and starch; the red lead, candles, and starch we found at the mother's house, in the lower apartment, the starch was found in an old pocket, loose, it laid by the drawers, and there were some halfpence and a thimble in the pocket; the soap was concealed up in a garret under some bed clothes where she said she had no apartment. The mother was going to take down all the clothes together; the officer informed her she must not take them in that manner, she must take them down one at a time, and then the soap fell from the bed clothes, a piece at a time.

Q. Did any body make her any promise or threat? Did you do it, or the constable in your heating? - No.

Mr. Knapp. First of all was the consession reduced to writing? - No, never. She said she brought away the soap on the over night from my house; and the red lead, the candles, and starch, all the articles in the indictment, she said she drank tea with her daughter, and brought them away.

Mr. Knapp. You are sure that she said that she brought them away from her daughter? - Yes; she said, she had been drinking tea with her daughter, and brought them away from my house.


I went to Joiner-street, the house of the father and mother of the girl, and I found the several articles mentioned in the indictment; I found the soap up stairs wrapped up in the bed clothes; the candles were below in a drawer, the drawer was not locked; the red lead laid in the window; the starch was in a pocket, with some halfpence and a thimble.

Q. Did you make her any promise if she would tell you how she came by the things, or did you threaten her? - Neither; she said, she received it from her daughter the over night, the candles, the red lead, and starch; I asked her how she came by the soap, up stairs; and then she said, she had it from her daughter.

Q. Did she say when? - She did not. The daughter told us that her mother had been with her the Sunday evening.

Mr. Knapp. Is not that old woman a married woman? - I don't know

Q. Don't you know that she and her husband are bound over by recognizances to answer this charge at the Surry assizes? - Yes, they are.

Q. And you are bound over to prosecute them? - I am.

Q. This was all that the old woman said, all that you have stated in the court? - It is.

Mr. Knowlys to Prosecutor. Whereabouts is the value of these things? - About four shillings.

Mr. Knapp. Will you take upon yourself to swear to any of them? - No, I will not.

Q. And you have told my lord that you don't know you even missed any.


Tried by the London Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-71
VerdictNot Guilty

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454. MARY COLLYER , the younger, was again indicted for stealing, a mahogany hearth brush, value 1s. three pounds weight of black pepper, value 3s. ten ounces weight of white pepper, value 15s. thirty-two pounds weight of soap,

value 16s. one ounce weight of cinnamon, value 1s. five pints of lamp oil, value 2s. a pint of fallad oil, value 1s. eight ounces weight of flour of mustard, in a glass bottle, value 4d. forty-six ounces of stone blue, value 3s. twelve ounces twenty-four drachms weight of mace, value 11d. the goods of Richard Bullen .


16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-72
SentenceImprisonment > house of correction; Corporal > public whipping

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455. WILLIAM CORDELL otherwise CAUDELLE was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of July , two thousand iron nails, value 2s. 6d. the goods of Richard Bishop and John Southgate .


I am a trunk-maker , William Bishop is my partner, we keep a house, No. 76, Watling-street; I was robbed of these nails the 10th of July, the prisoner was my journeyman , he had been so about twelve months; I had missed nails several times, but these in particular; my apprentice informed me that he had seen some nails in a workshop; these were four thousand first, and three were taken away; there were one paper of nails which I saw in a hole between the laths of the garret ceiling.

Q. Where were these nails kept? - In the workshop, in paper; I see them the 10th of July last, in the evening about eight o'clock, we leave off usually about night o'clock, and he was gone to the public house; I went after him, and told him I had some trunks to send out, desired him to come back to take out a truck and he would not come back; he said he must go into the cellar first; I told him he should not go into the cellar, and told him I would charge a constable with him; I insisled on his coming immediately with me; at last by violence, I brought him out of the public house, and brought him home; when he came home, I told him he had got two thousand of nails in his breeches; he said, he had not; I put him on the bench and unbuttoned his breeches; he then put his hand up and pulled them out; I see him, there was the paper. Then I immediately charged the constable with him, and sent him to the Poultry Compter. The constable has the nails.

Q. How do you know them to be your's? - I had seen them several times, and took particular notice of the writing on them. and the manner of tying them up; the writing is two thousand eight ounces, fine rose.

Q. Whose writing is that? - The ironmonger's.

Q. Do you know the hand writing of the ironmonger's? - No, I do not.

Q. Did you observe that hand writing sufficient to say, that what was taken from the prisoner, was the same that you saw before? - Yes, I took very particular notice. These nails are kept in the work shop, but they were put in a secret place, by a person or persons unknown to me; I had seen them behind the desk of the work shop, this particular parcel seven or eight times; the work shop is in the garret, the top room of the house; I had seen them there four days before this, three times a day, till the day they were missed, and I had seen them that day at two o'clock; my apprentice was the first that missed them; he is here.

Q. Now in this place where they were left, is it a place that this man had access to? - He constantly worked there.

Mr. Alby. I take it for granted you employ a great number of men? - Yes.

Q. And all these men work in the garret? - No, they work in the lower part of the house, which is three stories difference.

Q. They generally leave off work at eight o'clock? - They do.

Q. You ask this man to go back from the public house to carry a truck, and he did go back? - He did.

Q. Do you mean to say that you think you can swear to the marks, or do you absolutely swear to them? - I don't attempt to swear to the marks in general, but I only say that these nails were in the garret.

Q. Might not other nails of the same description and quality be in the garret? - I swear to them by the mark.

Q. Look at them nails. (Another paper shewn him.)-This is not the paper.

Q. That is the same kind of mark? - It is, perhaps the same person might write it.


I am an apprentice; I observed the nails in the work shop; I saw the prisoner shove some paper like over the hole; I did not take any notice just then.

Q. What kind of a hole do you mean? - Up in the corner where he works, there is a writing desk, and there are two posts belonging to the house that comes up behind the desk, and in there I saw two thousand of nails.

Q. Was that the place where the nails were usually kept? - No.

Q. Was it in the work shop? - Yes.

Q. What day was this? - I cannot positively say, but I think it was Monday, the Monday before he was taken up.

Q. Did you observe this place when he put the paper over it? - Yes, and I went and looked after he was there, and I acquainted my master of it directly.

Q. You did not observe how that paper was marked? - Yes, there was writing on it.

Q. Should you know the writing again? - I cannot be positive; it was a brown paper, and a string tied about it; I missed it from this place on the Thursday evening following for the first time; I went down and told my master directly, the man had got it with him, as I supposed; my master went directly after him. I did not see them taken from him; I came directly down stairs, and my master had got them in his hand.

Q. Where do you keep your nails? - I get them of my master out of the counting house, and when they are wanted, the men ask me for them.

Mr. Alby. You are in the habit of seeing nails come to your house from different persons? - Yes.

Q. I believe these nails are marked as usually nails of this description are? - Yes.

Q. And therefore you will not be so hardy as your master to swear to this particular parcel.


I know nothing of the robbery only taking the man into charge; and the nails were delivered to me, and I have kept them ever since.

Prosecutor. The paper I can swear to, the nails I never saw.

Mr. Alby. You don't swear the nails are your's? - I never saw them before; I took these nails in that paper out of his breaches; I swear that paper and the contents are mine; the nails cost me half a crown.

Hayward. To the best of my knowledge that is the paper.

Q. To Prosecutor. Had you any nails in the garret but what belonged to you, you had not borrowed any? - No. The prisoner did not say any thing about the

nails one way or the other, he downed on his knees and begged I would not send him to the compter. The constable was there at the time.

GUILTY . (Aged 64.)

Imprisoned twelve months in the House of Correction , and Publickly Whipped .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-73
SentenceImprisonment > house of correction; Miscellaneous > fine

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456. HANNAH HALL was indicted for stealing, on the 3d of July , a quart pot, value 1s. 6d. the goods of Henry Goodman .


I keep the Bull's Head, in Leadenhall-street ; I lost a pewter quart pot, I sent the pot over in the afternoon to No. 1, Duke's place, and the woman was taken the next day with the pot.

Q. Can you say with certainty that there was a pot missing, to your own knowledge? - The boy had not been to fetch them, the pot was brought home again, and the prisoner took; I could not miss it before, I have missed scores.


I am the constable; I was sent for to the sign of the Bull's Head, to take the prisoner into custody, for stealing the pot; that was the 3d of July about two o'clock; the pot I had out of the public house from the boy, I made him put his mark and I put mine; the boy's name is Coleman Wolfe. I have kept the pot ever since.


I am an apprentice to a Mr Riswell, a taylor. Last Thursday morning, I was standing the opposite side of the way, and I saw this Hannah Hall with something under her apron; I did not see her go in, but I see her go out with something under her apron, from my master's yard; my master lives at No. 1, Dake's-place; she was followed out by the servant, Mary Allen, who came back and told me that she had stole a quart pot, and that she had seen her at an acquaintance's of her's, Mrs. Jenkins's, in George yard, Whitechapel. We both went to this person's house, and she told me where, perhaps, I might find the prisoner; she told us, if we went to one Mrs. Neales, in Petticoat-lane, we should very likely find her there; when we came there, she told us the prisoner had not been there that day, but if we went to one Godfry's, in the same yard, in Whitechapel, we should find her there; we went to Godfry's, and she denied seeing her for several days; I went up there about half an hour after, myself, and I saw her there with two more women; she told me then that she knew nothing about the pot; then I insisted on her going with me; she said, for God's sake, don't hurt me, I will bring you out the pot; she went down in the cellar and brought it up half full of dirt. Then I took her to the Bull's Head, Leadenhall-street, and Mr. Wright took charge of her, and the pot was delivered to the constable.


I see the prisoner Thursday fortnight the 3d of July, I saw the prisoner at the Mitre-court, Aldgate.

Q. Did you know her at all? - No; I was cleaning the parlour out, in the morning; I live with Mr. Riswell, a taylor; I set out these two pots at the step of the door, they were Mr. Goodman's; this was in the morning about eight o'clock, he has got a large yard,

and I saw the woman about the court for some time.

Q. Were these pots in that yard? - Yes, at the door. When the woman found I turned my dack away she opened the yard gate, and came, I perceived her, I looked up on perceiving a dark shade against the window, and saw the woman take the quart pot, and run away with it; I followed her till such times as I came to the corner of Shoe-maker-row; she was gone before I could come to her; I came and told our apprentice that I lost the quart pot, and I said, that I had seen her at an acquaintance's of mine in George-yard, if he would go with me, I should hear of her; we went together, but I never see her any more.

Q. How came the apprentice to know her? - Mrs. Jenks, in George-yard told me her name.

Q. Did you go with him to Mrs. Jenks's? - Yes, I went there because I had seen her about there.

Prisoner. I have known that young woman a great while.

Prosecutor. This is my pot, it has my name on it; I have been in business a year and a half; I never sold any; I have had many stole.

Prisoner. I was in Duke's-place to work that morning, close by that young woman, I saw her as I came along; I lodged with her aunt two years; she told me when she had a bit of broken victuals, she would give it me; I locked down the kitchen, and told her, I am going to take your pot to get some pump water, I will bring it again. I took the pot to Aldgate and left the pot with Mrs. Godfry, on the second stair. The girl knows me by living at her aunt's a long time, and told me if she had any thing to give she would as soon give it to me as any other poor person.

Allin. I never gave it her at all; I never spoke two words to her in my life.

GUILTY . (Aged 38.)

Imprisoned three months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s.

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-74
VerdictNot Guilty > no prosecutor

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457. JOHN THOMPSON was indicted for a libel against Mrs. Phillips .

No prosecution.


16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-75

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458. GARLAND DAVIS was indicted for obtaining goods under false pretences .

The case was opened by Mr. Knowlys.


I am the servant of Mesirs. John, William, and Thomas Haynes , in Milk-street, they are wholesale hosiers .

Q. Was you in the course of dealing with Meslrs. John Badger and Benjamin Hudson , of the old Jewry? - Yes. The prisoner at the bar he came on Monday the 8th of May , between nine and ten in the morning, he desired to look at some goods, which were shown him by me; I knew him by sight, but not his name; I shewed him the goods, and he looked out six pair of cotton, and three pair of silk and cotton hose, he looked them out himself; I knew him to be a servant of Messrs. Badger and Hudson's and I desired John Hilson to enter them to Messrs. Badger and Hudson, in the presence of the prisoner.

Q. Did you know the name of the prisoner? - I did not. After that entry was made his name was required, John Hilton asked him; he said, Appleby; I cannot say whether he said John or no; I have the entry here; I saw the entry made; it is entered only Appleby.

Q. Did you in consequence of this give him the goods? - I did, and he went away with them.

Court. Did you know this man before? - I knew him by sight, but not by name, I had seen him once and only once.

Q. How came you to put the goods down to Badger and Hudson? - I had seen him come from there once before, the 6th of May, and I had seen him once at Badger and Hudson's.

Q. What is Badger and Hudson? - They are haberdashers.

Q. How did you know he was a servant there? - Because I was informed he was. I was told so.

Q. How came it to he entered to Badger and Hudson the first time? - By his desire, I suppose.

Q. We must have the reason? - The reason I cannot give you.

Q. You desired Hilron to enter them to Badger and Hudson? - I did.

Q. Did you say loud enough for the prisoner to hear the directions you gave? - I did.

Q. Did he see the entry made? - He did not; the desk is in the corner; he had a bill of parcels given him, made out in Badger and Hudson's name, "Bought of John, William, and Thomas Haynes ." I am sure of it.

Q. Did he look at it? - He did.

Q. Who made out the bill of parcels? - John Hilton, and I read it myself.


I am servant to John, William, and Thomas Haynes ; I remember the prisoner coming to our shop for some goods that Blunston sold him; I made out the bill of parcels myself, to Messrs. Badger and Hudson. As soon as I made out the bill of parcels I gave it into his hands; I asked him his name; and he said, his name was Appleby.

Q. Had you ever seen that man before? - Yes, I believe on the 6th of May two days before, he came for some goods for Messrs. Badger and Hudson.

Q. Were the goods delivered to him? - Yes, and he went away.

Q. When he came there the 6th, what did he say? - I recollect his telling the young man that he was thinking of setting up business for himself, in the country; I understood he came from Messrs. Badger and Hudson; I knew him to be their traveller or rider.

Q. Should you have delivered these goods to him if you had not believed him to be a servant of Messrs. Badger and Hudson's? - No, I would not.

Prisoner. I never gave any notice to leave, nor have I had any notice to leave.


My partner's name is John Badger; Garland Davis was my servant.

Q. Did you ever know him by the name of Appleby in your service? - No; his name is Garland Davis. I was on a journey at this time.


I know the prisoner; his name is Garland Davis; I never knew him by the name of Apploby; he quitted our service the 8th of May, in the morning, about eight o'clock, or it might be a quarter past.

Q. Were you customers with John, William, and Thomas Haynes ? - Yes.

Q. On the 8th of May, between nine and ten, or at any time in the day, did you send this man with any order to their house? - I never did, nor I never saw him afterward. That morning he set off col

lecting large sums of money in the country. I never sent him for goods to this house. On the 6th he had goods there that he never brought to us; on the 6th he had not left our house. He had lived with me near three years; the first part of the time we approved of his conduct very well, but we soon thought very different, in the course of half the time perhaps.

Q. Did ever any of these stockings come to your hands? - None of them, till Mr. Hudson took them from him, when he apprehended him.

Prisoner. Ask him if he never sent me for goods more than once, twice, or thrice? - Never

Mr. Knowlys to Mr. Hudson. Are you sure you did not send him the 8th of May? - I am sure I did not. I apprehended this man at Liverpool; I pursued him on purpose, I went after him, hearing that he was collecting our money unlawfully. Afterwards I heard he was at Birmingham, and from Birmingham I pursued him to Liverpool. These were five pair out of nine I found, two pair of which he had sold to his taylor, at Birmingham; they are three pair of cotton, and two pair of silk and cotton: this and another pair was found in his trunk or portmanteau, which was owned by him, and has been brought up to town since with his pretended wife, and which he has had delivered to him by a peace officer, in prison.

Blunston. These are the kind of stockings that I let him have, but they have no mark on them.

Prisoner I was a servant to Badger and Hudson, and had no notice to leave. In the morning of the 8th of May, I went to Messrs. Haynes and had nine pair of stockings, they never asked me who they were for, nor did I tell who they were for; I rather was afraid of going home again, afraid of meeting a person I did not like to see. It is not likely that I should go to this shop for stockings in an assumed name, where I had been more than twenty times; there are the rest of the young men in Badger and Hudson's house that can prove that I have been sent there many a time, an I those that I had on the 6th of May. I think I can remember who they were for.

Court to Badger. Is there my entry of these on your journals? - Not that I know of, it is no matter to us.

GUILTY . (Aged 28.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.

16th July 1794
Reference Numbert17940716-76
VerdictNot Guilty

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459. MARY BROWNBILL was indicted for receiving, on the 29th of December , two check muslin aprons, value 4s. two check linen aprons, value 2s. two cotton gowns, value 10s. 6d. two cotton petticoats, value 10s. 6d. three linen shifts, value 6s. one dimity petticoat, value 8s. two cotton bed gowns, value 3s. a cloth cloak, value 12s. 6d. a silk cloak, value 12s. a damask napkin, value 5s. a silk handkerchief, value 4s. a muslin handkerchief, value 1s. the goods of Thomas Thomas , knowing them to be stolen .


I am a victualler . The 29th of December last, I had a servant who absconded; I keep the King's Arms, in Arundell-street, in the Strand; it was on Saturday; she had lived with me, as nigh as I can recollect, about six weeks; on the 25th of April afterwards I met her by accident in the street; she took away the goods stated in the indictment, and much more; we only put in the indictment what we really found at the pawnbroker's; on the 25th of April, I met her by accident in the street; I took her to Bow-street immediately, and there she denied knowing me, or ever seeing me in her life time;

but when my wife came up she identified her also; then there was some of my property found on her, the justice committed her, and she was tried here the 30th of April, by the name of Martha Fishbourn or Ann Low , and found guilty of stealing what property was found on her, which was one handkerchief, but these things were all in the indictment.

Q. Did any body else rob you besides Ann Low? - No, it was impossible any body else. When Ann Low was taken to the office she gave her name Martha Fishbourn , living at No. 14, Freer-street, Blacksriars, the officer went there along with me to the house and we met with the prisoner at the bar, Mary Brownbill , she immediately made a declaration if she would not be hurted, she would lead us to a discovery where the things were, I told her it was not in my power to say any thing to that, but I imagined it was the best way to tell the truth, from there she was taken to Bow-street, and there committed; the witnesses are in court that she had pawned some of the goods with, and sold some of the tickets.

Q. What is she? - I don't know, I believe a single woman; the people of the house told me she worked in the Fleet prison for somebody.


I am servant to Mr. Rodwell, Broadway, Blacksriars, the prosecutor and officer at Bow-street came to our shop enquiring for some of these things, accordingly we went up in the warehouse and found four articles which it seems she had pledged, I have known her pledge a great many things but I don't know that I took these of her, some I took of Fishbourn, and some have been redeemed and pledged again a number of times, she said she bought the tickets.

Q. Do you know of any redeemed by the prisoner at the bar and pledged by her? - They were pledged by the name of Smith, she came with them as her own property, she used the name of Smith.


I bought a gown of Ann Fishbourn, I really cannot tell whether it was before Christmas, or after, I think it was after.

Q. Who was present? - Nobody but Ann Fishbourn .


I am servant to Messrs. Berry and Patmore on Ludgate-hill, I took in a bed gown of Jane Gough.


I bought a ticket of a bed gown, of Ann Fishbourn, and gave six pence for it; and the bed gown laid in for two shillings.


Q. Where did you get that bed gown? - Of Mary Brownbill.

Q. Was Martha Fishbourn any relation of your's? - No, none at all, I bought it of Mary Brownbill and her, she told me it was her mother's property and I bought the tickets, of a scarler cloak and a great many things, I did not know they were stolen property, I wore the gown and cloak two months before I was obliged to deliver them up.

Q. What is this woman? - She goes to the Fleet prison to wash dishes up. When I bought them Ann Low was present, Mary Brownbill sold me the tickets; I am sure that is the gown and cloak I bought of her.


I bought three or four tickets of the prisoner at the bar, they are here, we keep a chandlery shop, she brought the ticket of the cloak on Sunday morning as well as I can remember, she said they belonged to a girl that was at her house, and her mother was dead, and she was very much distressed.

Q. Did you ever see Ann Low ? - Not that I know exactly.

MARY KING sworn.

I purchased a petticoat and handkerchief of Mary Brownbill and Ann Low , I gave Mary Brownbill the money; Ann Low told me that her mother lived in the country, and was very well to do, and she died and left her the things, and she was very much distressed, and would be glad if I would buy them of her.

Mrs. THOMAS sworn.

These are my things, I am sure of every thing being mine , and that they were stolen out of my house by my maid.

Prisoner to Ann Fishbourn . When these tickets were sold. Ann Fishbourn's husband came down and paid Ann Low the money? - I laid the money on the table , but I don't know who took it up, whether Ann Low or the prisoner.

Court to Hudges . Who did they pay the money to? - I bought the tickets of Mary Brownbill , I gave her two shillings and six-pence for the gown, and six-pence each for two other tickets .

Prisoner. I went to Mrs . Hodges , Sunday morning, and asked her to buy the ticket ; the other woman sent me ; we had no money nor no breakfast , and Mrs. Hodges bought it, and gave me two shillings for the ticket .


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. COMMON SERJEANT .

Old Bailey Proceedings supplementary material. Mary Bouchier, George Higgison, Robert Armstrong, Abraham Abrahams, Mary Thorpe, Alexander Loraine, Samuel Evans.
16th July 1794
Reference Numbero17940716-1
SentenceNo Punishment > pardon; Transportation

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