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THE TRIALS AT LARGE OF THE CAPITAL and other CONVICTS, ON THE KING'S Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON; AND ALSO The Gaol Delivery for the County of Middlesex, HELD AT JUSTICE HALL in the OLD BAILEY, On Wednesday, the 20th of JULY, 1791, and the following Days;

Being the SIXTH SESSION in the Mayoralty of The Right Honourable John Boydell , LORD MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LONDON,




Printed for E. HODGSON (the Proprietor); And Sold by him, at his House, No. 14, White Lion Street, Islington; Sold also by J. WALMSLAY, No. 35, Chancery Lane; and S. BLADON, No. 13, Pater-noster Row.



KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON, &c.

BEFORE the Right Honourable JOHN BOYDELL , LORD MAYOR of the City of London; the Honourable Sir FRANCIS BULLER ; one of the Justices of his Majesty's Court of King's Bench; the Honourable Sir JOHN WILSON , one of the Justices of his Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; Sir JOHN WILLIAM ROSE , Serjeant at Law, Recorder of the said City; JOHN SILVESTER , Esq. Common Serjeant of the said City; and others his Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer of the City of London, and Justices of Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City and County of Middlesex.

London Jury.

William Robert Wilson

Richard Bullock

Richard Clark

James Duthort

William Illstone

John Burrowes

Jonathan Smith

Thomas Potts

Joshua Gregory

Thomas Wright

William Packer

James Hickman

First Middlesex Jury.

Richard Holbrook

James Hogarth

George Young

John Hall

Thomas Holmes

William Thisleton

Nathaniel Thorley

Paul Barbutt

James Jones

Daniel Collards

John Loosely

Robert Stone

Second Middlesex Jury.

John Cole

William Winncombe

Francis Thompson

Floriman Goddard

Matthew Haycock

John Prussairt

George Myers

Thomas Fendall

William Lording

Thomas Seardifield

Robert Clannage

Henry Hunt

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-1
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation

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269. THOMAS GODFREY and JOHN SMITH were indicted for feloniously assaulting John Mazzinghi , on the King's highway, on the 21st of June last, putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person and against his will, a watch in a gold case, value 5 l. 5 s. two stone seals, set in gold, value 2 l. 2 s. one metal chain, value 12 d. a silk purse, value 6 d. a guinea, and six shillings in monies, his property .


On the 21st of June I was going from London to Waltham-cross , in my one-horse chaise, I was attacked about half past nine in the evening, near the Nine-mile-stone; I followed the mail-coach up to the Eight-mile-stone, and I saw a man on the foot-path, which which is higher than the road, he passed me rather in haste, I had some apprehensions, I turned my head, and saw the prisoner jump from the foot-path into the road, it was the same man I first saw pass me, I observed no other man at that time; I immediately turned my head to whip the horse on fast, I saw two other men approaching me in front, they were within four yards of the head of my horse; I heard a voice of one of them which I could not distinguish, say stop; and I answered what do you want? in the interim one of them took hold of my horse's bridle, that was neither of the prisoners; then the prisoner Smith spoke to me first, and said, your money immediately, Sir, and presented a pistol at my head; the tall prisoner Godfrey came on the left hand and presented another pistol, he took it out of his great coat; I said Oh! you shall have my all: in the interim, as I turned to whip the horse, I had six guineas and a half loose in my waistcoat pocket, which I dropped into the chaise; immediately I put my hand in this right-hand pocket, where I in general keep loose silver; says I, here is six shillings, and I gave it to Smith; then he stopped and felt at my pockets for two minutes; they asked me for my purse; says I, here is a purse, and there is a guinea in it. Smith felt for my buckles; says he those are silver; yes, says I, they are; says he, we must have them: they took no farther notice of my buckles, but seeing my chain, they asked for my watch; my buckles were very strong made, however massey they are, in trying whether they were silver or not, one of them was broke; I then pulled out my gold watch and gave it to them, and a metal chain, and three gold seals. I had very fortunately made a present of a gold chain which I had a few days before; just as I was handing the watch, says Smith, to me, I do not believe there is a guinea in the purse; yes, says I, you will find there is: and says I, there are some papers of consequence; I had a draft for two hundred guineas in the purse. I must confess that their behaviour towards me was such, that gave me, notwithstanding my fright, some degree of courage; they did not use one bad expression, they behaved extremely civil, more than I could expect; I then said, gentlemen, it is a metal watch, and a metal seal, they are of little consequence to you, I should be obliged to you for one of the seals, which has my coat of arms on it: the man that held the bridle, says, why d - n me, give it to the gentleman, give it to him; that is the man that is not here. Smith tried to tear off the seal, but he could not; and I said it goes on a swivel, if you will give it to me I will take it off; but Smith would not trust me with the watch, and he held it while I took off the seal. I said, have you spit your spite? they said yes: then says I, shake hands, and Smith shook hands with me, and he wished me a good night, and I wished them good luck; that was full eight minutes, it was the longest day. I wish I had the least doubt of them, I wish I had.

You have no doubt? - Oh, none; I swear to him both by his face and his coat: I wish I had any doubt, I should be glad to save the lives of two fellow creatures; they had their hats on, round hats; these two men were quite near my chaise, the other man I could not positively swear to; I did not see them till I saw them at the Justice's the Tuesday following: I believe this was on the Tuesday before. I never recovered any of my property.


I am an officer belonging to East Smithfield, I apprehended the two prisoners on the 25th of June together in bed, in Swan-alley, East Smithfield; I found nothing on them.


I apprehended the prisoners together with Dawson, I had an information of them.


I was going to East Smithfield, and Dawson detained us, and gave us a great deal of trouble, and Dawson extortioned upon us, after Sir Sampson Wright said we were not guilty, and he took one guinea, besides all opportunities, and threatened to get a press-gang, and send this man to sea, and I really believe that he has now taken me up on the same circumstance again, because there never was any proof of my being guilty of any thing of the kind, nor I never was accused of any thing.


I can only say the same; Dawson took me on suspicion.

Dawson. My Lord, it is very true that a little while ago I did take them to Bow-street in consequence of an information; Sir Sampson referred them to East Smithfield to be discharged. I am upon my oath, and I declare I never had a guinea or a shilling; for every thing I had in my I life returned them every thing, that I had a suspicion was stolen.


GUILTY, Death .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

Mr. Mazzinghi. My Lord, after I have fulfilled that duty which I owe to the laws of my country, permit me most humbly to recommend the prisoners to his Majesty's mercy; and indeed, my Lord, their treatment, in some measure, merits it, and I should be very sorry to see the lives of two fellow-creatures taken for an assault, where no personal injury is done, and I hope the Jury will join me.

Jury. We beg leave to recommend them also .

Court. The crime is very bad in itself, but to be sure there are degrees in it, and it is not so bad when those people use no violence, and behave with civility, it is not so bad a thing as when they beat people and hurt them.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-2

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270. HENRY MATTHEWS was indicted for stealing, on the 28th of June last, six plumes of ostrich feathers, value 100 l. and two woollen wrappers, value 4 s. the property of Francis Alwin .

A second count, laying it to be the property of William Flowers , and Justice Hudson .


I am apprentice to Justice Hudson, at No. 1, Fleet-market: William Flowers is his partner; the feathers were lost on a Tuesday night between eight and nine; I was passing through St. Paul's Church-yard, and the prisoner stood at No. 19, I had them on my shoulder in two wrappers; he called to me, and said, my lad, will you call me a coach? and he told me if I would leave my bundle with him he would take care of it till I came back; I told him I would call a coach, but not leave my bundle, and then I got him a coach to the door, No. 19, Mr. Simpson's, in St. Paul's Church-yard ; he stood under the door, and had hold of the knob that opened it; and as soon as I had called the coach, he ordered it to turn about; the prisoner took the feathers off my shoulder, and put them into the coach with my consent. He asked me to go down the first turning with him, to help to bring a box and hamper, and he would pay me well for my trouble; when I got down the turning a bit, he gave me a shilling, and told me to go into a public-house and get a pint of beer, and change for the shilling, and that he should be there by the time; I had the beer, I waited some time, but no person came; I then went up to St. Paul's Church-yard to look for the coach, and found it was gone I was going to take them to Wallbrook

where the owner of the feathers lives, his name is Francis Allen ; he was not more than ten minutes with me, he had a round hat, he was a stranger to me, I put them in the coach, and left them in the coach, and took the number; I left nobody with the coach but the coachman.

Mr. Knowlys, Prisoner's Counsel. Did you say before the Alderman that you was sure he was the person? - No; I said to the best of my knowledge.

Was he taken the same day? - No, the day after; I am sure he is the man, I mean to swear positively to him; I never took an oath before, therefore saying to the best of my knowledge, was because I did not know that it made any difference; I never had a doubt of his being the man.


I am a coffin-maker and undertaker , my partner's name is William Flowers : on the 28th of June, Tuesday, I had these feathers of Mr. Allen, I am answerable to him for them, six plumes of white ostrich feathers, I delivered them near seven o'clock at night to the boy, I saw them in the wrappers next day before the Alderman; I packed the feathers, I know the wrapper to be the same I packed up, they were directed to one of the city marshals, Mr. Clarke, they were the same I packed up.

Mr. Knowlys. It was nine o'clock when you sent this boy away? - I cannot speak to a minute, I speak now within ten minutes.


I am a coachman; this boy called me with a bundle upon his shoulder, ordered me to turn about; I followed him to Mr. Simpson's, in St. Paul's Church-yard; a man came up to me, and stuttering, asked me the way to Temple-bar; the prisoner came on the opposite side, and said the boy is coming, and took the property out of the coach; I pursued him, and took them upon him; the goods were wrapped up in woollen cloths. The goods were put in by a man and the boy; the prisoner is the man, he said the boy is coming; I took the property from him, he was about seven or eight yards from the coach; I called after him, he stopped; I took the things from him, and put them into the coach, I pulled up both my glasses; another chap comes and orders me to open my door; I did so: he said, I hope you have not lost the property, it is of great value; I said no: I got upon my box, and drove him to Shoe-lane; then he ordered me to Stone-cutter-street; he pulled the string, I stopped; he got out of the coach, and he gave me a shilling; it came into my head he was not the owner, I followed him to Bear-alley; then the prisoner came up, and rescued the other man, and knocked me down; I got assistance, and he was secured, he was put into the New Counter, he was examined next day; he is the man that knocked me down, he had not them clothes on.

Mr. Knowlys. The man at the bar is the man who put in the goods? - I cannot say positively.

You have told us it was dark? - Yes.

Did you never make any enquiry about a reward? - No, I never did.

Is this answer as true as every thing else you have said? - Yes.


I am a constable, I took charge of the prisoner.

Mr. Knowlys. Do you know the last witness? - Yes.

Did he ever ask you if there was any reward? - Yes.

What did you tell him? - I told him to apply to the Court.

Prisoner. I leave my defence to my Counsel.

Philip Price . He called me about a quarter past nine, the watch was not set; I waited some time before any body came to the coach; I gave the feathers to Joceylin, he delivered them at Guildhall the next day.

Philip Joceylin . I received a plume of feathers in two wrappers, I took them before the magistrate.


I received these feathers of Joceylin, they were sealed at Guildhall; I have had them ever since.

(For the prisoner.)

Mrs. EMANUEL sworn.

I am a married woman: my husband sells glass and china. I have known him two years, a hard working man; and I believe him a very honest man; he is a butcher ; I have bought meat of him.


I am a confectioner. He bore a good character; I never heard any thing bad or wrong of him; I believe him to be very honest.

GUILTY , (Aged 30.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-3

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271. THOMAS SINGLETON was indicted for stealing one linen handkerchief, value 6 d. six linen shirts, value 10 s. six muslin neckcloths, value 12 s. two pair of cotton stockings, value 2 s. two other linen handkerchiefs, value 1 s. a velveret waistcoat, value 2 s. one muslin ditto, value 2 s. one fustian jacket, value 1 s. the property of James Dickinson .

(The witnesses examined separate.)


I am an apprentice . I lost the articles mentioned in the indictment, in Fenchurch-street ; I was going home with this bundle; it was in my hand; I am fifteen years old: my father finds me in clothes. The prisoner stopped me, and asked me if my name was not Dickinson? I told him yes; he asked me if I was not apprentice to Mr. Allen? I told him yes; he told me he had just come from my master; he told me my master had described me to him; he said there was a gentleman at my master's, just come out of the country, whose name was George; I was to go back to the White Hart Inn in the Borough, and there was a pair of large saddle bags; I was to bring them; he said there was a good load; he was going back to my master's, and he would carry back the bundle; I delivered the bundle to him; there was no saddle bags at the White Hart; I have never seen the things since; the prisoner was taken next morning; I saw him; he is the man who took the bundle.

Prisoner. Are you sure I am the man? - Yes.


I am the father of the last witness. I know nothing of the matter, but what the boy told me; he was taking the bundle from before nine o'clock on Saturday, the 8th of June; it was clean linen; he returned about ten the same evening, without the property; I asked him if he should know the man who robbed him? he said yes; he gave a very minute description of the man; and I immediately suspected him, as I had known him before; I asked him how he could do such a thing; he said he was not the man; I then apprehended him.

James Dickinson . I had seen him two or three times at my father's before the robbery.


It is very odd; I have been at his father's house four months; I was at Bow-fair from five till eleven at night.

James Dickinson . It was ten minutes past nine o'clock, at the corner of Fenchurch-street, I was robbed; as I was coming up Fish-street-hill, I turned round and looked at the clock. I was going from my father's house to my master's, in Somerset-street, Whitechapel.

(For the prisoner.)


I am a bricklayer's labourer. From eight o'clock, till half past ten, I was with the prisoner at Bow-fair; I never left him during the time; we were in a public house; I believe it is the King's Arms; the first house on the left hand; the front room; there were many other people there; I drank along with that gentleman at the bar; and nobody else; I met him in the same house; I know but little of him, only being a neighbour; I live in Gravel-lane; it was of a Saturday, in Whitsun week; I cannot tell what day of the month; I was there on Saturday, and no other day. That gentleman's father found me, and summoned me up; his father is a carpenter; I lived near St. Thomas's Hospital; I have changed my habitation lately; I do not know the prisoner's occupation.

The prisoner called another witness to his character.


Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-4

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272. RICHARD LATIMORE was indicted for stealing, on the 23d of May last, a cloth coat, value 18 s. a velveteen waistcoat, value 7 s. a pair of corderoy breeches, value 10 s. a pair of linen sleeves, value 12 d. a knife, value 6 d. a pair of steel knee-buckles, value 4 d. and five shillings in monies numbered , the property of Samuel Taylor .


I am a butcher at Brewer-street, No. 27. The 23d of May, I lost the things in the indictment, from No. 3, in Middlesex-court , where I lodge; it was the first night of my lodging; the prisoner slept with me; he came to bed about eleven; the things were all safe over night; I counted my money, and put my breeches under my head; in the morning, at seven, I awaked, and they were gone; I am sure it is the same man.


I took the prisoner four or five weeks ago; I found a knee-buckle upon him; I took him in St. Martin's-lane, at Mr. Collet's; he was undoing his knee of his breeches, and was taking out the knee-buckle; he clasped it in his hand; no more of the property has been found.


The prisoner lodged with me; I said I did not choose to take him without a character; he said that his lodgings were over Black-friar's-bridge; he gave me six-pence earnest. On Monday night I told him there was a young man slept with him, and he said he was glad of it; and he went out early in, the morning, and never came to lodge again.

Court to Taylor. Look at that knee-buckle; do you know it? - The knee-buckle I lost was very much like that; it had no particular mark on it.


When I came to bed about eleven at night (this young man went to bed about nine, or a quarter after) this gentlewoman says to me, you have got a bed-fellow with you; the door was wide open, and I saw no property at all, nor the next morning; and I went to work; there were other lodgers in the house; they might go out at any time of the night they thought proper.

Prosecutrix. Mine were all honest lodgers.


Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-5
VerdictNot Guilty; Guilty

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273. LEVY BIBBALL and CHARLES CLARK were indicted for burglariously and feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Charles Maits , about the hour of two in the night, of the 12th of July , and burglariously stealing therein, two pen-knives, value 6 d. one guinea, value 1 l. 1 s. four pounds, eight shillings and nine-pence, in monies numbered, four hundred and seventy-four halfpence, and one hundred and eighty-five farthings, his property .

A second Count, for that they being in the same dwelling-house, and having feloniously stolen the same goods, burglariously did break out of the said dwelling-house, against the statute.


I keep the Coach and Horses, Holloway , in the parish of Islington. I went to bed the 12th of July, about ten; I was not alarmed in the night; I was called about five in the morning; my house was all fast when I got up. One of my lodgers concealed himself in the kitchen after we were gone to bed; there were spring locks and bolts; and he opened the door to give the property out to another; he owned to it; the prisoner Charles Clark has drawn beer for me about a month; we missed the drawer out of the shop; I keep a chandler's shop and public house both; there was halfpence in the drawer the night before; I cannot tell the quantity we found on the prisoner; there was nineteen shillings and nine-pence in halfpence, and three shillings and ten-pence in farthings; I cannot justly say how much money I left in the drawer the night before; there were a number of halfpence, I suppose fourteen or fifteen shillings worth, to the best of my knowledge; there might be more.

Was there any money there besides halfpence? - Not in that drawer; I discovered that the drawer and the bason was gone; I had a suspicion of this man, Levy Bibball ; he lived any where; he lodged about in hay-fields; he did not lodge in any part of the premises that night; I have a witness that saw the door open, and shut it; I saw him again about half after ten; I charged a constable with him, and he confessed.

Court. Now, before that, did you tell him it was better to confess? - I told him it was better to confess.

Court. Then say nothing about that.

Maits. I have got six pounds, thirteen shillings, and four-pence farthing, which the prisoner delivered up to me again.

When was Bibball taken? - The same day; they were both taken together; I told Bibball it was better to confess; I got the halfpence from Bibball, and four pounds, eight shillings, and nine-pence, from Clark, and one guinea in gold, the same day, between twelve and one; I can swear to the silver three-pence, which is in court; and a pen-knife in the drawer, I can swear to.

Which of the prisoners brought the three-pence to you? - I had the three-pence and the knife both from Clark; this knife I can swear to; I gave them to the constable.


I am the constable. I received these things at eight in the morning; I found this money in a hay-stack belonging to one Mr. Tuck; the prisoner Clark went and shewed me; I apprehended Bibball; I found nothing upon him, nor by his direction, only Clark; I have kept it ever since; it is the same money and knife.

ANN MAITS sworn.

I am wife of the prosecutor. I went to bed between eleven and twelve; I desired Bibball to fasten the back door, and put a man out of it; I went to lock the cellar, and to fasten the door; and when I came up, I never saw him afterwards.

Was the man put out? - Yes; he put him out himself; when I came up, I went and fastened all the doors; I locked the shop door on the spring lock and bolt; the key was lost; there is one bolt at top and one at bottom; there were two bolts; I am sure I fastened both bolts; I did not

know but Clark was gone to bed; I did not see him after that evening; I was up between five and six; I was informed my shop-door was open; I saw the money after all the doors were shut.


I was up about two in the morning; I am a cow-man; I was putting on my shoes, I carried them down in my hand for fear of waking the child; I lodged next door to the shop, and I found the door of the shop open: I called twice, and nobody answered.


I was coming home from work across the fields, and I saw Levy Bibball in a ditch, as I came across the fields in the morning, in Mr. Symmonds's fields, within four hundred yards of the prosecutor's house, about ten o'clock in the day; I asked him where he was going; he said spreading dung, and I left him; as I was going over the stile he said, Will; I said what do you say? he said you need not tell Mr. Maits you saw me.


I am an officer; Maits came to my house, I took charge of Clark; this money came out of the field under a piece of turf in a ditch, about four hundred yards from the prosecutor's house.

Court to Franklin. Did you see the place where the money was found? - Yes, Bibball told me where the money was, and I went with a constable about it; he said it was in the ditch under a turf.


I know nothing at all of the affair; they made me fuddled, I do not know what they said.

To Charles Clark . What have you to say for yourself? - They made us both in liquor; I know nothing about it.



Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-6

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274. ANN KANE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 16th day of July , twenty yards of muslin, value 39 s. the property of Robert Hinckesman , privily in his shop .

- SIMMONS sworn.

On Saturday evening, the 16th of July, the prisoner at the bar came to our shop, and asked for some muslin; I shewed her some; there was another woman who had come in about ten minutes before, and said she must be served immediately, or could not stay, who asked for the same kind; it was rather dark, and the prisoner asked for a light; I said she had better take it to the door to look at it, as I had no person to get a light, for a friend of mine came in at the time, and being rather embarrassed with the two customers, and suspecting them, I asked him to attend on the prisoner, while I attended on the other; I went again to the prisoner, and she had fixed on some muslin, and asked the price; I asked her eight shillings and six-pence; she said she wanted two yards, and would give me eight shillings; just at that moment my master Mr. Hinckesman came, and I told the prisoner to go to him, and he would cut it off for her; I then counted my muslins, and found one piece gone, and told the other person to write on a piece of paper, and take it to Mr. Hinckesman, that I suspected the prisoner had taken a piece of muslin; he let her go out, and I followed her, and brought her back into the shop, and I saw her drop this piece of muslin from her.

(Produced and deposed to.)


I took charge of the prisoner, I searched her, but found nothing on her.

Mr. Garrow, Prisoner's Counsel, to Simmons. Before this piece had been removed from the place where you had laid it, there was a young man, a friend of yours, came in? - There was.

Your master came in before this could have been removed? - No, I believe not.

Mr. Garrow to Treadway. After this woman was in your custody, she was left alone for a considerable time, and might have gone away if she had chose it? - She might certainly.

Court. Who was with her? - Simmons was with her.

Mr. Garrow to Simmons. On your suspecting that these persons did not mean what was honest, and the other pressing you to attend to her, you directed your friend to attend to the prisoner particularly, whilst you served the other? - Yes.

He was then particularly directed to attend to this woman, and to see whether she did any thing that was wrong? - Yes.

So that whether your friend saw the muslin removed afterwards, of course you cannot tell?

Court. What had your friend to do with the shop? - He was waiting to go with me to pend the evening.

The prisoner called five witnesses, who gave her a very good character.

GUILTY , Death .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-7

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275. WILLIAM MEREDITH was indicted for stealing, on the 2d of July , fourteen shillings and two six-pences , the monies of William Simms .


I live in Bishopsgate-street , I am a schoolmaster ; about five weeks since I was informed by my son he had lost several sums of money; I put about twenty shillings which I had marked into my own drawer, which my son uses occasionally, it was in a garret, next room to that in which the school was kept; I marked it with an iron stamp on the 2d day of July; I marked fourteen shillings and two six-pences; I marked one with a brad awl, the rest were marked alike, and all in the same drawer; I missed money on the 28th of June; this was the first time I missed twenty shillings, I put the twenty shillings into the drawer not more than an hour before they were gone; the fourteen shillings and two sixpences were missed in the space of an hour also; I called the prisoner into the parlour, and asked him if he had been into my son's room; and he denied it; upon which I sent for a constable, and told him to search: he had concealed the fourteen shilling and two six-pences wrapped up withinside his breeches, and he said there were three more concerned, that he was not alone, nor were any promises made to him; the constable has the money.


I am a butcher and constable, I was sent for by Mr. Simms, the 30th of July, about two o'clock, I went to examine him, and he gave me this paper which contains the money.

(The money produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)

To Simms. Did you lock the drawer? - I did, and it was forced open by this screwdriver; the constable found it in the schoolroom.

Robert Clithero . The prisoner delivered the screw-driver to me, and told me he opened it with that instrument.

Prisoner. I have nothing to say, I hope you will forgive me.

GUILTY . (Aged 14.)

[Transportation. See summary.]

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-8
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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276. CHARLES GILL was indicted for burglariously and feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John

Babb , about the hour of one in the night, of the 25th day of June last, and burglariously stealing therein, twenty-eight pair of worsted stockings, value 24 s. one worsted stocking, value 3 d. five yards of silk, value 5 s. the property of the said John Babb and Samuel Cooper , in the said dwelling house .

A second count, laying it to be the property of John Babb , and Samuel Cooper , in the dwelling-house of one Robert Bowen .

The witnesses examined separate.

JOHN BABB sworn.

I am a hosier , I live in Leadenhall-street , my house was broke open on Saturday the 25th of June: we have a ware-house under the shop, which has a sash-window to it, secured by iron bars, it is part of the house, it was secure when I went to bed, to the best of my knowledge; at twelve o'clock I went down to every place but that, the house was secure; at a quarter before four o'clock, I was alarmed by the watchman, it was light, full day-light; one of my servants looked out of the window, and the watchman informed us we were robbed; I did not go into the warehouse till eight o'clock, a pane of glass seemed to be cut out, the sash was not opened, only the pane cut out; they got out a quantity of hose, there were twenty-eight pairs of worsted stockings, and many other things which I cannot ascertain; they are the property of Babb, Cooper and Bowen. They are the property of Babb and Cooper only in fact, because Bowen was not in partnership with us in this stock, it being an old and prior concern, and Bowen is but recently come into the partnership; I saw part of the goods on the same Saturday morning, they appeared to be got out by a hook. I found my warehouse in a very different state, part of the goods are in the hands of the constable.


I am servant to Mr. Babb; I was in Mr. Babb's house, on the 25th of June, I saw at four or five o'clock the window, I cannot tell exactly, the square was out of the window, there appeared to be less goods than when I saw them before; I was in the warehouse many times on Saturday, many articles were kept in the warehouse; I found the hook a little below the window on the inside.

(The hook produced.)


I am porter to Mr. Babb, I saw the warehouse safe on Saturday evening, I examined it between eight and nine o'clock, it was then safe; I saw some goods lie under the window, they were within two feet of the glass; I do not sleep in the house, there was a visible appearance of a decrease of goods.


I am shopman to Mr. Babb, I sleep in the house, I was in the warehouse at four or five clock.

Pagett. I saw the warehouse a about five o'clock the morning of the robbery.

Grierson. I did not see the warehouse after five o'clock in the afternoon, previous to this robbery, there was a variety of goods near the window, the house was secure at ten o'clock; I was alarmed at three o'clock in the morning, I heard the clock strike, the watchman alarmed me, I came down stairs, I discovered the things moved, and the window broke, cut out with a knife; there were worsted stockings and silk breeches pieces, I cannot tell the quantity or number of pairs of stockings; I found the stick in the cellar, Paget found the hook, the constable has the stick.

- PINNER sworn.

I am constable of Aldgate ward; I have got twenty-eight pair of stockings, and two pieces of silk for waistcoating; on the 25th of June, after three in the morning, the prisoner at the bar was brought to the watch-house about a quarter past three, in Leadenhall-street,

by two or three watchmen; I was constable of the night; in the bustle he threw down the green piece of silk on the ground, and I saw him very busy about his breeches, and I searched him, and found four pair of stockings, and a single stocking, in his breeches, and money; the other twenty-four pair were brought in by the watchmen. I produce the property.


I am a watchman; on Saturday the 25th of June, ten minutes after three, I was going my round, and in Bowker's-garden I saw the prisoner forty yards from the prosecutor's house; I saw him and another man concealing the property behind a stone; I said halloo, what are you at? they made no answer, but they immediately made their escape; they ran off, but did not get out of my sight; he got out of the garden, into Cree Church-lane, he was taken at the bottom of Cree Church-lane, I did not take him myself; as soon as I found he was secure, I called some of my brother watchmen; I went to Bowker's Gardens, and found the property, twenty-four pair of stockings, and a waistcoat piece; I left the things in care of the constable of the night: these goods are the same.

- HARROLD sworn.

I am a watchman; I took the prisoner in Cree Church-lane: I am sure he is the man.


Betwixt three and four o'clock I was going to Crutched Friars, I picked up one pair of stockings, the watchman cried, stop thief; I saw a young man run past me in a brown coat, he turned down an alley; they searched me, and found the one pair on me.

Prosecutor. I swear to the waistcoat pieces; I think the four pair of stockings are mine, I do not like to swear to them, as other people may have the same kind of goods.

(For the prisoner.)

A WITNESS sworn.

The prisoner lodged with me two years, I have known him seven years, he is a shoemaker; I believe he is not a thief, I never heard any thing of the kind of him.

GUILTY, of stealing . (Aged 17.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-9
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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277. SAMUEL BISHOP was indicted for feloniously assaulting Benedict Debar , on the 13th of July , on the King's highway, and putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person, and against his will, three linen shirts, value 7 s. two muslin neck handkerchiefs, value 2 s. one pair of silk and cotton stockings, value 2 s. three pair of cotton stockings, value 6 s. one cotton gown, value 7 s. one cotton apron, value 3 s. one casimere waistcoat, value 1 s. one cotton night-cap, value 1 d. one dowlass towel, value 1 d. one linen cloth, value 1 d. the property of James Debar .


I live at No. 6, Clark's-court, Bishopsgate Within; on the 13th of July the bundle was taken from me between nine and ten at night; Samuel Bishop came up first, (there was two others) he said, let us ride, I was behind a gentleman's coach; then another came up and struck me on the fore-finger on my left hand; I took his stick from him; Bishop took my bundle and run away; I ran after him I thought they were after no good; I run after him in Field-lane; I never lost sight of him till he was taken by M'Guffin.


The last witness came to my house about nine o'clock, I gave him the bundle to take to his mother to get washed.


I am a soldier; the child cried stop thief, I called to him, he dropped the bundle; I took him to the watch-house, with many of the neighbours.


I am a warder of St. Andrew's, Holborn, I was setting the patrol; I searched the prisoner, the bundle was brought, which I gave to the officer of the night, Mr. Twitchell.


I got this bundle at the watch-house.

Benedict Debar deposes to its being the same bundle.

James Debar deposes to the clothes.


I heard the cry of stop thief, I was coming down Holborn; I run, and in running along I picked up this piece of new cloth, which the constable produces.


Of stealing the goods, but not violently from the person .

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-10

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278. WILLIAM HUNT , DANIEL RANGO , and JOHN FINCH were indicted for feloniously assaulting Isaac Gillett , on the King's highway, on the 20th of June last, putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person, and against his will, one leather pocket-book, value 3 s. his property .

(The witnesses examined separate.)


I was going down Newtoner's-street , the 20th of June, about half past six in the evening, I saw a friend sitting on the wheel of a coach; I told him I wanted to speak to him; he bid me stop, there was a fight; I foolishly did so; I stopped, and three or four of them came and hustled me, and Hunt took my pocket-book; they fastened me so, I could not prevent them, though I saw them do it; I prevented them taking my watch; as soon as ever I got at liberty, I went and seized Hunt, and kept him a long while; at last there was a great mob, but they got me down and broke my leg; they got him away from me; I only know Hunt, I do not know the other two.

Mr. Knowlys, Prisoner Hunt's Counsel. The person that you suppose to be Hunt, you did not see for a fortnight afterwards? - I never saw him that I know, but I am sure he is the man, he is so conspicuous.


On the 20th of June last, about six, there was a fight; in the mean time Mr. Gillett came up, a gentleman that I do work for, he touched me on the leg; says he, you had better be drinking half a pint of something with me; says I, yes, but let us see the fight, for it is a very funny one; so he did, and I saw several surround him; Rango stood alongside on one side, and a tall man in blue on the other side; I saw John Hunt pick his pocket of the pocket-book, and I saw him give it into the hand of the tall man in blue; I immediately caught hold of Rango, and I am very sure I saw the tall man in blue give the property into Rango's hands. I immediately held the man in blue for twenty minutes, as Rango and others were beating me over the head; I was beat in a shocking manner; he told me in the mean time to search the other man; I saw the book in Rango's hands; says I, you are the villain to be searched, and d - n you, give me the book again; that was what I said; I am sure I saw the book

in Rango's hands, as sure as I see you now. Rango d - n'd me for a b - r, and swore he would do for me, and he took up a stone and hit me over the neck.

Mr. Garrow, Prisoner Rango's Counsel. All this violence was after the prosecutor had lost his book? - Yes.


I was sitting on a coach-wheel at the time of the fight, and I saw Hunt pick the other man's pocket; I called out, says I, that man has robbed you Gillett, get hold of him; and some of the mob got some sticks, they beat Mr. Jennings most cruelly, about the back part of the head.

Who did you see getting round Gillett, when he lost his pocket-book? - Daniel Rango , he hustled him up while Hunt picked his pocket of his pocket-book. Rango was not taken till a fortnight afterwards.


I was present at the time of a fight in the street, close by my master's house, I got on the wheel of a carriage, and I saw Hunt take a pocket-book from Mr. Gillett's pocket, and give it the person that Jennings laid hold of, and several then came and beat him most shockingly, and knocked him down; at this time Gillett laid hold of Hunt, and kept him a quarter of an hour; they knocked Gillett down, they directly went and rescued this Hunt away from Gillett; I was looking at the middle man, I think it was that Finch; I saw him beat Jennings, once or twice on the head; I saw Finch, and several that are not in custody yet, hustling Gillett before ever the pocket-book was taken away; I am sure I saw Finch doing that; and as to Rango, I cannot say I saw him till after the pocketbook was taken.

Mr. Garrow. You was very near Mr. Jennings at the time the pocket-book was taken? - I was.


I was coming by about six at night, going to my work, and I saw a parcel of people at a fight; I stood up on the back wheel of a carriage to see the fight, and in a little while, I saw William Money singing out, that man has picked your pocket; I saw Jennings lay hold of another person, not in custody; and I saw Rango come and hit Jennings a dreadful blow on the back part of his head; I observed Hunt and Rango: I saw nothing till after the pocket-book was taken away.


Mr. Finch struck Jennings over the head with a stick, once after the pocket-book was taken away; I was at work when it was taken away.


I was in the street at the time, and I saw that gentleman laid hold of, and I saw the gentleman trying to take him to the coach.


I went to see this fight, Mr. Money called out, that is the man that has picked your pocket; Mr. Gillett seized him, and I assisted him till he was rescued; he struck me several blows.


On Monday, the 20th of June, I was standing near my own door, there were two men fighting, I heard a cry of pick-pocket; I saw Mr. Gillett have hold of that tall man (Hunt) and another man was beating Mr. Gillett; I immediately went to his assistance, and I collared him with Mr. Gillett, and immediately the prisoner struck me; several more came up armed with sticks; I let go his collar at the instant Mr. Gillett was knocked down; I did not see who it was, but I am positive I saw Hunt strike Gillett.


I saw Joseph Hunt strike Mr. Gillett, he got released very soon, I saw nothing more, I only saw Hunt strike him.


Hunt and Rango I saw Mr. Gillett take out of the mob.


Mr. Finch struck Mr. Jennings once or twice, on the 20th of June; it was after Gillett and Jennings had hold of Hunt; they were obliged to let him go.


I am constable in the parish of St. George's Bloomsbury; I was sent for to apprehend the prisoner; I took Finch and Rango, and on searching them, I found these keys on Rango; that is all I found then; I know nothing of this transaction; on the 5th of July following I apprehended Joseph Hunt , and I took him.

Mr. Garrow. Rango was examined two or three times before Hunt was taken? - Yes.

He was committed for a robbery? - Yes. - Yes.

Did you hear any thing at all of Rango's having any thing to do with a robbery, till after the 5th of July? - Yes, before that I heard.


I was with Mr. Jennings at the apprehending that gentleman there, Joseph Hunt , he told me if I went for him by the name of Riley, I should find him out by that name; I took him.


I went to apprehend some men in Parker's-lane, I went to a public-house along with Jennings, and another officer or two, and Jennings pointed out two men in a public-house in Cross-lane, that was Finch and Rango; I saw Bunney the constable search Rango, and find some pick-lock keys.


I only went with Jennings to apprehend the prisoners Finch and Rango.


I never was near the place, I was at work the whole day; I was up at six in the morning, I never came out of the shop till eight at night. At night I went and took a walk in the fields, I went to Mr. Barker's, at Islington, and had a game at four corners.


I was elsewhere, I have witnesses to prove it. I did not know my trial would come on so soon.


I was not near the place.

The prisoner Hunt called four witnesses, who gave him a good character.

The prisoner Rango called two witnesses, one of whom gave him a good character.


GUILTY , Death .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

N. B. When sentence was passed the prisoner Hunt said,

"Please you, my Lord, these two young men are both of them innocent, I was the man that took the pocket book, but I was in liquor."

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-11

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279. JOHN LOCK was indicted for feloniously assaulting Ann Atkinson on the King's highway, on the 18th of July , putting her in fear, and feloniously taking from her person, and against her will, two guineas, ten halfpence, and two shillings in money, numbered, the monies of the said Ann .


What are you? - Some times I go out

on the town, and nothing else; I live in Love-lane, Westminster ; at half past one in the morning a man came up to me, his name is John Lock , they call him John Lock .

Who calls him so? - He called himself so before the Justice. I did not know him before that time, I never saw him before that; he came up to me in the street and insulted me, and I asked him what he wanted? He said he wanted nothing, and said, that he would have all that ever I had got.

Did he say nothing before that? - No, nothing at all; only he would have all I had got. I desired him to let me alone, and let me go home, he would not; he put his hands in my pockets, I made a noise, and he knocked me down, and took all I had for any thing I knew; I got up as soon as I could, and charged the watch with him.

What did he knock you down with, with his fist or his hand, not with any instrument? - No.

Did he get your money before he knocked you down, or afterwards? - Afterwards, while I was on the ground; he took two guineas, two shillings, and some halfpence; I cried out; nobody came to my assistance; I did not quit sight of him; I got up, and charged the watch with him, and he was taken to the watch-house, as nigh as I can guess it was near the watch-house.

What is the watchman's name? - I do not know.

Court. Would you ask her any questions, prisoner?

Prisoner. Mrs. Atkinson, on Monday morning you came up to me at the corner of the Little Sanctuary, you came and took hold of my arm; did not you walk with me to the corner of Love-lane? - No; I never saw you in my life before you attacked me.

Prisoner. For shame, woman, consider what you are about here, I am standing for my life! My Lord, she took me to the narrow lane, very near over her shoes, at the back of the Plow, in Love-lane. - There we went together, she asked me if I would go and lay with her; I told her no, I had a wife at home.

Prisoner's Counsel. About how long was the man with you? - About ten minutes.

What conversation passed between you? - No conversation passed at all, he came up, and said he would have all that ever I had; I was not willing to part with my money, and he knocked me down.

What did you say to him in these ten minutes while he was insulting you? - said nothing at all, but called out.

Where did he hit you? - Over the breasts, a man is more powerful than a woman.

Did he appear to you to be in liquor? - He did not.

Was you in liquor yourself? - Yes, a little.

Have you ever had any conversation respecting the prisoner, in which you said you did not mean to hurt him? - No, I said nothing at all but that I would tell the truth.

You never acknowledged you was in liquor, and did not intend to prosecute him? - No; the Constable has my money; he left me sixpence halfpenny.

How came you out so late at night? - I had been with my sister in Holborn at tea, and I got a little drop of liquor, I was in company besides.

What company was you in? - I was along with the man that I live with, he was drinking, and I was drinking with him.

Where was you drinking with him? - I cannot tell, somewhere in Holborn.

At how many houses? - At one or two, he would not come along, he would have more liquor; we fell out and parted, so I went one way and he went another, that made me have this misfortune.

When had you seen your money before you lost it? - I saw it in Holborn.

On what occasion did you look at it in Holborn? - I looked at the money I had got.

What made you look at it? - Because I insisted on having the money from the man I live with, I thought I could take better care of it.

What sort of man is he? - He lives in Westminster, his name is Young, I live in Westminster.

Did the man put his hand into your pocket? - Yes, he did.


I am the watchman, on the 18th of July I was on my beat; and I heard the cry of a woman, watch, watch, watch! I went round and met the prisoner and the woman, she said, this man has robbed me of two guineas; the man was walking a middling pace from her, not very fast; she ran after him, he knew me, he spoke to me, I stopped him: she came up, and would have made it up for the two guineas. He was searched, and two guineas, and two shillings, and five pennyworth of halfpence were found on him.

What did the prisoner say when she said he had taken two guineas from her? - He said he had not, he did not know where the two guineas were.

What were his words exactly? - He said he had not two guineas of her's.

These were his words? - Yes.

Did you hear a woman cry at all, before you saw the prisoner and this woman? - Yes, I heard her cry first of all, then I went towards her.

Prisoner's Counsel. How long did you hear her cry before you came up to her? - Not three minutes.

In what state was the man, did he appear to be in liquor? - He was a good deal in liquor.

How was the woman? - I believe she was so too.

You have known the man for some time? - I knew his father.

What was his character? - I cannot say.

Do you know any thing of a reward in this case? - A reward, no, I do not know any thing about it.


I am constable of the night, between one and two I heard a woman scream, I am one of the patrols, I did not go out of the watch-house; the prisoner and the woman were brought in; she said she had been robbed of two spadey guineas, that means the last new guineas, without any supporters. The prisoner said, he was sure she had not two guineas. Says I, my friend, it seems very odd; says he, she had no money at all. I searched her first, and found sixpence, and a halfpenny on her; and he would insist on my searching him, so I searched him. Says I, what money have you got? says he, I have a farthing. I found a good farthing upon him; he had a blue jacket on, I shook it; says I, what have you got here in the left hand pocket withinside? says he, it is some halfpence; then I put in my hand, and pulled out some halfpence, and I this quantity of money, and laid it down on the table; it was all loose, I spread it, and there were two guineas among it. The woman said, them are my two guineas. The man was frightened, and could not speak.

Prisoner's Counsel. Did the woman say any thing about being knocked down? - She said she had been pushed or shoved down.

Was there any marks of her having been knocked down about her? - I did not see any thing of it.


As I was coming along on Monday morning, between twelve and one, I met this woman, she came up, and took hold of my arm; she desired me to go to such a place, and asked me several times to go home with her. I went with her into this Love-lane, and there she wanted me to lay with her. I asked her what I should give her, and she said a shilling; I gave her a shilling, while I was giving her that, she was rifling my pockets with her own hand; she shoved her hand and mine into her pocket; I got the money out of her hand, and I thought it was my own, and shoved it all into my pocket.

Constable. Here is the bad shilling, which he said he gave her; I found it in his own pocket.

Prisoner's Counsel. Did the man and woman appear to be in liqquor? - Yes.

The Jury withdrew for some time, and returned with a verdict,

GUILTY , Death . (Aged 37.)

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-12

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280. PIERRE, alias PETER AUGUSTINE, alias CHAMBLEY, alias CHAPMAN, alias DEVAL , was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 31st of May , one brilliant diamond ring, set in gold, value 5 l. one gold hoop-ring, value 10 s. one silk purse, value 12 d. seventy French gold coins, called double louis d'ors, value 140 l. and 1500 l. in money, the property of Jacque Alexander Delerade , in the dwelling house of Ann Smithers .

He was also indicted, in a second count, for feloniously stealing, on the same day, in the same dwelling-house, a bank note of the value of 100 l. two bank notes of the value of 50 l. each, three ditto, of the value of 30 l. each, one ditto of the value of 40 l. and one ditto of the value of 10 l. and two Dover bank notes, value 5 l. 5 s. each, the same notes being the property of Jacque Alexander Delerade , and the money due thereon unpaid and unsatisfied, against the form of the statute, and against the King's peace.

The case opened by Mr. Garrow.

M. MAZZINGHI sworn an interpreter.


I became first acquainted with the prisoner at an inn, the sign of the Providence, the 12th of May. We came from Paris to London the 25th, at four o'clock, at Charing-cross, we dined together there, and he took me from there to a Mrs. Smithers, in Downing-street ; we continued there a week, we took the lodgings on a Wednesday, and the Tuesday following the robbery was committed; before the robbery I received a large sum of money from Mess. Minett's and Fector, in London; I always went to the Bank, to change the notes in gold, always by the advice of the prisoner; we went together besides to Mr. Hammersley's, we received the notes on Monday morning from Mess. Minett and Fector, and on the Tuesday following, went to get the money in cash from Mess. Hammersley; but as it had a month to run, I did not get but half, all in gold. I put all my money in a trunk at Mrs. Smithers's, my bank notes in my pocket-book in the trunk, on Tuesday the 31st of May.

Where did you spend the day? - On Tuesday I put the money in about eleven o'clock, and went out walking, and afterwards dined near the theatre, about half past four; then we went to the play, and almost immediately after we went in, the prisoner left me in the pit; he begged my pardon, and would be back immediately, and I never saw him till he was taken. I went home about eleven o'clock, conducted by a young man, and found my trunk locked with a key; I opened the trunk in the presence of three people, and found every thing gone. I had the whole amount of the remittance that I brought from abroad, the prisoner counted it for me, I do not know myself. I lost a diamond ring, seventy double louis d'ors, they were all in the trunk; I had part of it in a little bag by itself.

Mr. Fielding, Prisoner's Counsel. When you was in Paris together, did not you live as friends? - We did; he told me he was a Scotchman, and would interpret for me.

Then you came from Paris together as friends? - Yes.

When you arrived in London, you looked upon him as your friend? - On my arrival in London he offered me his lodgings, for he said where he lodged there was always a spare bed.

When you was at the lodgings at Mrs. Smithers's, there you always treated him

as your friend, for he went as your son? - We always eat together.

Do not you know that the people of the lodgings, Mrs. Smithers, and every body there, looked upon you as related? - I never saw the mistress till Monday.

When you went to Minett and Fector's did you carry a bill there? - I carried a draft.

Did you see any body that spoke French there? - Nobody spoke French there.

Then all the business that was done at Minett and Fector's, was done by the prisoner for you? - It was.

When the money was received at Minett and Fector's, did not the prisoner receive the money into his custody? - Minett and Fector gave him some Bank of England notes, and I went with the prisoner to get them changed.

Were they given to the prisoner? - They were, and then we went to the banker's.

Did he change them at the Bank? - He did.

Whom did you trust to receive and count the notes? - The prisoner at the bar.

Did he take the money, or you? - I gave it him in a little bag.

Court. How came you to go to the Bank? - To change the bank-notes into money, because the next morning the prisoner was to put me in a situation with the cash to advantage, and he said it was easier to place out cash than bank-notes.

Mr. Fielding. Then he changed those bank-notes into gold for the purpose of placing out your money more easily? - I got all into gold for that purpose.

Did the prisoner, or did he not, keep the custody of the money, after he had got it at the bank? - I put it into my own trunk before the prisoner.

When you went to Mr. Hammersley's, the business there was conducted by the prisoner the same as on the day before? - It was.

Was it taken by you into your possession? - It was.

When you were on the road together to England, had you any conversation together about merchandise? - No, never had.

When you were at your lodgings, did you trust entirely to that man? - I did, he gave me to understand he was a captain of a vessel.

Court. What is your way of life in your own country? - I am a French gentleman , I fell a victim to the revolution, I never was in trade.

Mr. Fielding. How many apartments had you and the prisoner at Mrs. Smithers's? - I occupied an apartment of his, he having made me an offer of a bed; there were two apartments, one where the prisoner slept, and one where I slept.

In fact then it was the prisoner's lodgings, and you had an apartment through the prisoner's courtesy; which room was it you left your trunk in? - In the room where I slept.

When you came home, after having been at the play, you found your trunk locked? - Yes.

Had this trunk ever been used by him and you in common, to put the things in? - I locked it for the greater caution, to preserve my cash.

Mr. Garrow. Where had the prisoner proposed to spend the evening after the play was over? - He said he was going to sup with Mr. Rose, Mr. Pitt's Secretary.

For what end was he to sup there? - He was to obtain his protection for me, and to employ my money to advantage.

What do you mean by employing your money to advantage. He said Mr. Rose had been with Mr. Pitt for thirty years, and he would put me in a way how to employ this cash.


I am servant to Mrs. Ann Smithers , she lives in Downing-street, Westminster; Mr. Delarade and the prisoner came to her house on the 25th of May.

Who took the lodgings? - The prisoner.

Had he ever lodged there before? - No, never.

Who did he describe he took it for? - He said he took it for his father and himself.

How soon after he had taken it did Mr. Delerade come there? - In the course of half an hour, in an hackney-coach.

What did he bring with him? - They brought two trunks and a portmanteau.

Which of the apartments were these trunks put into? - The largest trunk and portmanteau were put into Mr. Delerade's room.

Do you recollect, on Tuesday, what time they went out? - I do.

Did they return together? - No; only one of them returned in the evening, which was the prisoner; he came there about half an hour or three quarters past seven.

What passed between you and him that evening? - When he came, he asked me to fetch him two sheets of paper, which I did, and carried them up to him, and delivered them to him with the change of the shilling he gave me to buy them; about ten minutes after, he paid me the lodging, two guineas for the week he had just been there, and half-a-guinea for myself, and desired me to get a porter; I told him I did not know readily where to get one, but I would get him a coach; I got him a coach, and he went away, and carried the trunk which was in his room with him.

What was to become of his father, did he tell you? - He told me that his father would be home in the evening, and that he should return on the Saturday for the farthest: I asked him particularly how long he should stay; he said he could not leave his father any longer than Saturday, and therefore at the farthest he should return then.

How soon after that did Mr. Delerade return? - About eleven in the evening.

How soon after that did you see the prisoner? - Not till after he was brought up from Bristol.

I believe you received every thing for what was wanted of the prisoner? - I received every thing from the prisoner, I never saw a halfpennyworth of the prosecutor's property.

Mr. Fielding. You seemed to have been with the prisoner all the time that evening almost, you only left him while you went out for two sheets of paper? - Yes, I went out for the coach besides.

Where was he all this time? - In the dining-room.

With his trunk? - Yes.

And he paid you for the lodging? - Yes, he did.

And told you he would return again on Saturday? - Yes.

Therefore there could not be many minutes that he could be in this room by himself? - The whole from his coming in to his going out was not above a quarter of an hour in all.

And then he went away in that coach? - He did.

Then whether he had got any thing of the prosecutor's you do not know of a certainty? - That is all I saw.

Mr. Garrow. From the time that Mr. Delerade went out, did any body go in, that could have taken Mr. Delerade's property, besides the prisoner? - Nobody went in but himself.

Mr. Fielding. He told you Mr. Delerade would return that evening? - He did; and he told me there would be an interpreter come with his father, that would tell us what he would want, and what he would have done; but that the interpreter was not to stay in the house.

You understood that they were father and son all the time? - I did.


I keep the house where the prisoner and prosecutor lodged.

Mr. Fielding. You, I suppose, then, bargained for the lodgings? - No; my maid did it: I was out of town when they were taken.

Court. Had you much conversation with the prosecutor? - Never spake to him but once.


I am an officer of the sheriff, residing at Bristol: I took the prisoner on the 4th of June last.

On his being apprehended, what conversation had you? - I went up to him with a brother officer; I told him he must go along with us; he did not make any reply to that, but said, call a coach: I said there was no stand near, but the place we were going to was as near as a coach-stand: we went to the council-house, and the mayor soon came, and he was examined.

I believe he refused telling his name? - He said he never slept in Bristol; but afterwards I found that was not true; and I went to a place where he had lodged, and there being some drawers in the room locked, I applied to him for a key; he said, at first, he had no key; at last he gave it me, and I opened the drawers, and found nine hundred guineas, now deposited in the Bank, and some double louis-d'ors (I cannot positively say whether there were twenty-five or fifty-five now), and twenty-nine single louis-d'ors: here is a pocket-book (produced) in which I found eight Bank-notes, including two Dover-bank bills; a purse, containing twenty-three guineas and a half (produced); here is a false watch (produced); here are two rings (produced), the one is an hair-worked ring, and the other is a diamond ring; a pair of knee-buckles, and a pair of shoe-buckles (produced); and I found this watch on his person (produced).

Mr. Fielding. What kind of a coat had he on? - The same as now; only there was a Prince of Wales's feather painted on the buttons, which are now rubbed off.


I am servant to Mr. Parker, pawnbroker, Princes-street, Soho: I sold this watch (the watch found on his person) to the prisoner at the bar, on Thursday, May the 31st, about eight o'clock in the evening; he gave me sixteen guineas for it; he tendered me an hundred pound Bank note; I gave him the change; the note was dated the 5th of May, 1791, No. 1531; I think I gave him two ten-pound notes, one twenty, and the rest in cash; I do not know the number of either of them.


I am a collector, in the house of Messrs. Hammersleys; I did not make the payment, but I was present at the time; Mr. Delerade came three or four days before that, accompanied by the prisoner at the bar, to leave a bill for acceptance, with a letter introducing himself to our house; after four days he came again, accompanied by the same man, the prisoner; I had procured, by this time, the bill to be accepted; it was to the amount of eleven hundred and eighty odd pounds; he intimated a desire to receive a part; I asked how much; after some conversation between the prisoner at the bar and Mr. Delerade, he requested half; I then wrote out a draught for 500 l. and Mr. Delerade wished to have half in cash, and the rest in notes.

- HESLOP sworn.

I made the payment to Mr. Delerade; I have the number of the notes in my book; I made the entry myself; No. 5861, dated 25th of November, for 10 l. (not found); No. 7751, dated 6th of November, 30 l. (one found at Bristol); No. 6354, dated 7th September, 30 l. (ditto); No. 8912, dated 30th October, 30 l. (ditto); No. 7623, dated 16th of May, value 40 l. (not found); No. 1531, dated 5th of May, value 100 l. (charged at the pawnbroker's); No. 1855, dated 29th January, value 50 l. (found at Bristol); No. 5234, dated the 6th of May, value 50 l. (ditto); and 210 l. in money.


I am clerk to Messrs. Willis and Co. bankers to the house of Messrs. Minet and Fector.

Be so good as to say whether you made any payments on the 30th of May? - We paid 719 l. 3 s. 4 d. to Messrs. Minet and Fector on that day, 400 l. in Bank notes, and 309 l. 3 s. 4 d. in money; the prisoner was the man that spake to me, and took the money and counted it.

Court. He brought a draft from Minet and Fector, Austin-friars? - Yes, he did.

Mr. Garrow to Mr. Delerade. Where did you get the draft of Minet and Fector? - I got it of Mr. Bergue, banker, at Paris.

Was it paid at the house of Messrs. Minet and Fector, or did they give you an order on another house? - They gave me an order on their bankers.


I was present at this confession being made by the prisoner; it was read to him before he signed it, and afterwards.

Mr. Justice Buller. Were there any promises or threats made to him? - Not to my knowledge; I am pretty sure there were not.

The Examination of Pierre Augustine , dealer in perfumery, taken the 5th of May, 1791, before John Harris , Esq.

The examinant, who is committed on a strong suspicion of felony, says, the pocketbook now produced is the property of, and contains several receipts and bills of parcels bought by, this examinant, when in trade in Compton-street, London; says, the forty-nine papers are the only papers belonging to the examinant contained in the said pocket-book, and that there are no other papers whatever in the said pocket-book; says, that the three bags of money are this examinant's property; that he has counted the said money in Mr. Mayor's presence, and that one of the said bags contains, in guineas and half-guineas, six hundred guineas, another of the said bags contains three hundred guineas; another of the said bags contains fifty-five double louis-d'ors and fifty-four single louis-d'ors; and this examinant saith, that he left Calais three weeks ago, and arrived at Dover the night of the same day, slept at the ship at Dover that night, and proceeded on to London the next morning; that he slept at Rochester on Tuesday night, and went to London next morning; saith, that Mons. Delerade came with this examinant, and lodged at No. 8, Downing-street, Westminster; faith, that at six he left the said lodging, and went to the play-house; that he went back to the house, and staid about an hour, and again returned to Bristol, and took lodgings near College-green, which were shown him by a hair-dresser; he remained there till he was taken into custody by two men.


Witness present at the signing and acknowledgement,

JAMES DAVIS , Constable.

(Another Examination read.)

Middlesex; to wit.

The Examination of Peter Augustine , merchant, taken before me, says, That about a month ago he was acquainted with the gentleman now present, and about a week after they set off for London, Mr. Delerade saying he was afraid of living at Paris any longer; that he took the first and second floor at the house of Mrs. Smithers, in Downing-street, Westminster; they carried their trunks there that night, and in a day or two afterwards he went with Mr. Delerade to the Bank of England, where he received a considerable sum of money, and afterwards a further sum, which he carried to his lodgings; that they went to the play; and this examinant went to Mr. Bayley, a dealer in pictures, in Piccadilly, and from thence to the lodging in Downing-street; that the maid-servant let him in; he sent her for some writing paper, and sent her for a hackney-coach; he changed a Bank-note for ninety guineas, which he received from Mr. Delarade; that all the articles are his own property, except the two rings, Bank bills, and bills of exchange, and does not know how they happened to be in the drawer with his things; that he went to Bristol to buy a turtle.

Court to Mrs. Smithers. Did you ever know the prisoner before he came to lodge at your house? - I never saw him before.


I cannot speak English enough to give any answer whether I could do it or not; I have only to say, I know nothing of the robbery

which has been brought to this bar, excepting the things that have been found belonging to the prosecutor were given to me as a partnership by the prosecutor; the prosecutor, in the presence of Mrs. Smithers, declared he had given me these things, and in the presence of another young fellow.

Court. Would you chuse to ask that question of Mrs. Smithers? - Prisoner. If you please. - Mrs. Smithers. I cannot tax my memory with any such thing.


I know the young man at the bar; I have seen him once or twice at the Opera-house.

Do you know Mons. Delerade? - Yes; I have seen him only once.

When was that? - It was one night I was by Charing-cross, and I met the gentleman along with a friend of mine; I went along with him to this gentleman's house.

Where was that? - It was in London.

But where was the house you went to with this gentleman and the prisoner? - The street where Mr. Pitt lived, Downing-street; we staid there near an hour; the gentleman was not at home, but I talked French with the lady; I sat down on the chair, and the gentleman came to me, and told me he was a friend to this young man; and he was a very good friend to him, and he went with him to the coffee-house, and he paid for every thing for this young man, and he would trust him with every thing, and was more master than him, because he had the money in his pocket; and particularly he said he did give him two rings to be cleaned in the morning.

What day was this? - I cannot tell; it was the same day in the night. when this gentleman came to London; the young man spoke first to me; he said he gave him two rings to clean, and he had every thing in his hand; I asked him what for? he said, because this young man was a man of property; he knew him in France; and every where he was a very good friend.

Mr. Garrow. Pray, Mr. Humphreys, what are you? - I am a perfumer.

Where? - I work at home.

Where is that? - I am a traveller, a valet.

Where is your home, good sir? - In King-street, Soho.

How long have you known this gentleman at the bar? - I saw him twice at the Opera-house, in the Haymarket.

How long ago? - Two or three months ago; I do not recollect very well.

Try and recollect; can you remember what month it was in? - I cannot.

What office had this gentleman at the Haymarket? - He was lamplighter there.

Did you ever hear he was a merchant? - No.

Did you ever hear that he dealt in turtle, or perfumery? - No.

Was not you a good deal surprised to hear the gentleman say he would trust him with every thing? - I asked him what for he trusted him; and he says, he was a man of property.

Was not you a good deal surprised? - Me! no, Sir.

Did not you know that he was not worth a guinea? - He was along with Mr. Blanchard; he is a lamplighter at the Pantheon and the Haymarket.

So, then, he was servant to the lamplighter; have you the least idea that he was either to dance or sing? - I cannot tell.

Upon your oath, do not you know he was a lamplighter there; upon your oath, did you never learn from him that he was a lamplighter at the Pantheon? - No, never.

How did you suppose he supported himself? - He was a merchant; I do not know.

Who was present at the time this gentlemen told you he was a merchant, and he trusted him? - Nobody but the gentleman, his wife, and me.

Did the gentleman tell you in English? - In French.

Did the prisoner talk English or French? - Always in French.

Mr. Fielding. Is Blanchard the master, and is the business committed to him? - Yes, he is the master, and does every thing.

Then he was not in any low situation at the Opera-house? - No, Sir.

Mr. Garrow. What situation was he in? - I cannot tell.

The prisoner called two other witnesses, who gave him a good character.

Mr. Justice Buller. Gentlemen of the Jury, the prosecutor resided at Paris, and has been one of the unfortunate victims of the ravages which have prevailed in that country, and therefore wishing to find an asylum in a country where true liberty and freedom was to be found, regulated by a wise and equal system of laws, without which neither freedom nor liberty can exist, he got acquainted with this prisoner, &c. Here the learned Judge summed up the case, and the Jury instantly found a verdict

GUILTY , Death .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-13
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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281. BRIDGET ANSTED was indicted for feloniously and burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Mary Flumstead , widow , between the hours of five and eleven in the forenoon, on the 9th of July , James Paterson and Elizabeth his wife, then and there being in the house, and feloniously stealing therein one linen gown body, value 2 s. one linen gown skirt, value 10 s. one pair of shoes, value 12 d. one woollen mattrass, value 8 s. one flat iron, value 6 d. and one muslin half handkerchief, value 1 s. the goods and chattels of Mary Ann Annam .


I live in Charles-court, Strand , I live with Mary Flumstead ; on the 9th of July I lost out of that house the things in the indictment, one linen gown body, &c. The gown cost me 15 s. and was not made up. I am sure it was between five and eleven, I was out with my milk; my daughter went home first, and came and informed me what was the matter. I suspected this woman, because she used to lurk about. When I came home I met this woman at the door; I went to Bow-street, and they advised me first to go to the Pawnbrokers, and make a search, I did so, but did not find any thing; I came home again, and went up stairs to ask the name of this woman; she came down, and said her name was Bridget Everett . She moved her lodgings the same day I was robbed, and on Monday morning I went to her apartments in Portpool-lane, Gray's-inn-lane, and I found the things in her apartment. The prisoner was in bed; I found one cap, the cap she had on her head, which was mine, and I took the cap as my own, with that Paterson, who was with me, told me if I was sure, to go and get a Constable, and charge him with her; I did, and went up into her room again, and then I saw the body of the gown on the chair in her room, and there was two duplicates taken from the chinks of the boards, but I could not observe particularly from whence they were taken.

In what situation did you leave the house when you went out? - It was padlocked when I went out, and when I came back the door was wide open, and I found the padlock broke.

Who lives there besides you? - My landlady, Mrs. Flumsted, and Paterson and his wife.


I went out with my mother, and returned about eleven, and when I came down stairs I saw the door was on a jar, and was frightened, and I saw the gown gone and the mattrass, and my mother's shoes. I know no more than what my mother has said.


I and my wife was at home on the 9th of July, I went out about ten minutes before seven, and returned at seven, and then staid till after eleven o'clock. When I went

out first in the morning I met the prisoner and her mother in New Round-court, in the Strand; when I was at dinner, Mrs. Annam came to me, and asked me if I knew the girl's name that lived up above me? I told her I did not. The prisoner, hearing this, come out of her room, and said, my name is Bridget Everett , and you may find me here to-day, but afterwards you may find me at No. 21, Gray's-inn-lane. I went to No. 21, Gray's-inn-lane, and I found the name Everett there, a midwife, not the prisoner; I made all the search I possibly could, and at last I went to a green-stall in Portpool-lane, and asked if such a person was there? They said there was, she came there on Thursday. I went up stairs and knocked at the door, and she opened it, and Mrs. Annam being with me, came in, and she saw the cap was hers; she went out and got a constable, and when he came she said she would give every thing up if there was no more said about it. She produced the gown, and there was two duplicates behind the mantle-piece, one of which led to the shoes, and they were taken out of pawn; nothing else was found.


I produce the things, a body of the gown from the prisoner's apartment, a cap and a pair of shoes found at the pawnbroker's, and an half handkerchief, and a piece of the staple broke out.


I am a servant to a pawnbroker; I cannot swear to the person who pawned these things, the half handkerchief and the shoes.

Prisoner. This man, Paterson, that hath sworn against me, often came up to my mother's apartments to get me to wash his shirt, and got me to pawn a many things, but never brought me into this hobble before.

Court to Paterson. Did you use to carry her up things to pawn? - I never carried her up any thing to pawn.

Prisoner. I would wish you to examine Paterson over again, when he gave me these things.

Court to Paterson. Is it true the evidence you have given? - It is true, my Lord.

GUILTY, of stealing only .

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-14
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation
SentenceImprisonment > house of correction

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282. JOHN RICHEY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 8th of July , a pair of kerseymere breeches, value 16 s. the goods of Outry Motes .


I lost a pair of kerseymere breeches on Friday, the 8th day of July, from my house, Rose-lane, Spitalfields ; I had seen them that evening before at six, and they were gone at ten; they were in the shop, made for sale, hanging in the shop. John Richey worked for me; I said nothing that night, but the next morning, suspecting Richey, I desired him to bring them down; he said he would go and bring them; he did not bring them down, and consequently I sent for Charles Dorman , who took him into custody. Before the constable came he came down; he said he had made away with them, he had pawned them.

Before he said this, did you make him any promise or threaten him? - I did not in any shape; the constable came, and he produced the duplicate.


I took in this pair of breeches to pawn on Friday the 8th of July, about a quarter before nine; I live with Mr. Windsor, No. 130, Minories; I took them in of the prisoner at the bar.

(Produced and deposed to.)

The prosecutor said before the Lord Mayor, if I would give him the breeches

and the prisoner would give him 20 s. he would make the matter up; but the prisoner at the bar, being a very poor man, could not possibly raise it.


I lodged in this gentleman's house; I rented a room of him, and worked in my room; he gave me this pair of breeches to make, he gave me a matter of four or five pounds worth to work in my own room; being in great distress, I could not support my family without subsistence; I owed a little money where I used to deal, and they would not let me have any more till I could pay it; I took the liberty of pawning these breeches till I settled with my master on Saturday night, when I intended to bring back the breeches again. I am a stranger here, lately discharged from the 48th regiment, come from India; I am a poor distressed man.

Jury to Prosecutor. We would wish to know whether they were taken out of the room or out of the shop? - Out of the shop.

Court. Had the prisoner at the bar any room to work in? - No, he had only a bed.

Prisoner. The breeches had been in my room six or seven days, hanging across my line; I took it as a choice to work in my own room, because it was lighter.

GUILTY. (Aged 36.)

( Recommended to mercy by the Jury .)

Confined six months in the House of Correction .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-15

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283. WILLIAM JOHNSON was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 16th of July , three ounces and a quarter of silver, called whip tops, value 12 s. the goods of George Barton .


I live in Brownlow-street, Holborn ; I am a silversmith . On the 16th of July, Monday, between the hours of nine and ten, I lost two ounces and a quarter of whip tops that day William Johnson had taken from me. I went to Mr. Heather, and, in consequence of being sent for, saw those goods, and am certain they are my property; no one else in London uses these kind of articles. The prisoner was then taken into custody by Mr. Heather.

Court. Did the prisoner work for you before? - He did; he was 'prentice with me, but was a very bad one.

GUILTY . (Aged 23.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-16
SentenceMiscellaneous > fine; Imprisonment

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284. HANNAH MACARTHY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 14th of July , two dimity petticoats, value 10 s. and a pair of cotton stockings, value 16 d. the goods and chattels of Edward Collingbridge .


I lost two dimity petticoats and a pair of cotton stockings out of a garden just by the house where I live, at Highgate ; they had been put in about an hour before I missed them; I did not see them taken away, but I saw a person going out of the garden, and sent Thomas Robinson after her, and they brought her back; I had seen the person sitting in the road for two hours before, near the garden; the things were hung up on a line. I missed the things, and saw her going, in a quarter of an hour she was brought back, and taken to the constable, with the property upon her.


Last Thursday week, about one or two o'clock, I was called to run after a woman

who had robbed Mrs. Collingbridge; I found she was stopped, before I came up, by Mr. Prosser; I took her to the constable, and he took from her the things; she had the things wrapped up in a blue cloak before her.


I was crossing the road and saw Mr. Robinson running, and heard him say, stop the woman, and I turned her cloak on one side, and saw the things; I took the things from her, and gave her, when Mr. Robinson came up, into his custody.

CHARLES H - sworn.

I am the constable; the prisoner, and two petticoats, and a pair of stockings, were delivered to me on the 14th of July, and have been in my custody ever since.

(Produced and deposed to.)


As I was going along tired and hungry, looking for my husband, who left me ten weeks ago, being tired and hungry much, I could not get on, and one of these men came up and asked me what I sat there for; I told him; he told me he would give me some victuals, and he came back to take me to his own house, and put an handkerchief round my neck to hang me; and he did his best to get the better of me; and he said, if I would not let him do it, he would put me into a tub of water and drown me, and so I bawled out, and he gave me these things into my apron; and those people ran after me.

GUILTY . (Aged 26.)

Fined 1 s. and imprisoned twelve months .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-17

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285. WILLIAM MATTHEWS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 17th of June , a piece of leather, called a knee-flap of a chaise, value 21 s. the goods of Benjamin Brookman , and Samuel Warren .


I am a victualler ; the chaise belonged to me and Samuel Warren; I lost the knee-flap on Friday the 17th of July; it was safe at nine o'clock that night; I saw it gone on Saturday morning. I got it from Mr. Simmons.


I have got a knee flap, I bought it of the prisoner (produced) on the 18th of June; I am sure he is the man.

(Deposed to.)

Jury. What did you give for it? - Eighteen-pence.


Going home I met a lad named Thomas Lack , with the flap under his arm, and he asked me whether I could sell it for him; I did not know it was stole.


I am a constable; I apprehended this man at Bow-fair; I called a coach, and told him to drive to Clerkenwell; he asked what he was to go there for: I told him; then he said, Oh, that bloody thief Thomas Lack had turned King's evidence.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-18

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286. WILLIAM FREEMAN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 20th of June , two wooden casks with iron hoops, called wine-pipes, value 16 s. and one wooden cask with iron hoops, called a brandy puncheon, value 5 s. the goods of William Wootton .


I live at the cyder cellars, Covent Garden , I lost two wide-pipes and a brandy puncheon, two were taken from the door of the ware house, Adelphi-stairs, and the other a little from the door, they had carts in the Strand, I had information, I followed the cart to Great Peter-street, Westminster, I went to get a constable; before I had got back again, they had pulled out the head of one of the wine-pipes, and the brandy-pipe, and the staves lay down. I saw the prisoner assist to get the cask out of the cart at the door, and when I came back with the constable, the prisoner was at work on the cask. I took him; I am sure they were my casks.


I am a servant to Mr. Potts, I saw the prisoner and another man take the pipes away, they rolled them up, and I saw the last cask put into the cart, and two were in before, and they went to Peter-street, Westminster, to the prisoner's house; this was between five and six in the evening.


On the 19th of June, it was Saturday, I stood at my own shop-door; a gentleman came up to me and asked me if I was a cooper ; I said yes; he asked me if I could pitch three water-tubs for him; I said yes: he said if I would go with him, he would shew me where they were, and I went with him to the place; and he went under the Adelphi, and marked them with a piece of chalk, and asked me if I could fetch them away, and he would satisfy me; I went for them on Monday, and fetched them away; and when I came up in the Strand, I saw a cart, and I hired it for a shilling, and got them home, and this gentleman came and took me up about eleven or twelve in the same day; after I was taken up the gentleman came to my shop, and hearing I was taken up he went away as fast as he could; I have never heard of him since.


The prisoner hired me to bring the casks, we went down three separate times for them, and put them into a cart.

GUILTY . (Aged 22.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-19
SentenceMiscellaneous > fine; Imprisonment

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287. WILLIAM GRAY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 24th of June , three copper sauce-pans, value 5 s. the goods of George Keene .


I live at the Wheat Sheaf, Waltham-green ; on the 24th of June I lost three sauce-pans; they were taken out of the house.


I am wife of George Keene ; I missed the sauce-pans on the 24th, between twelve and one o'clock.


On the 24th of June, past two in the morning, my companion and I met William Gray , the prisoner, on this side Hyde-park-corner, with these three sauce-pans; we asked him where he had got them; he said he got them at Waltham-green; he said he was going to take them to Limehouse; we asked how he got them; he said from an honest man; we asked him what he was going to Lime-house to do; he said he did not know. We asked him how he came by them; he said a man gave him a pot of beer to carry these three saucepans from Waltham-green to Lime-house; we knowing certainly, that he did not come honestly by them, took him into custody, and brought him to Govent-Garden watch-house. I have kept the things ever since.


I went to Waltham-green, and found the

people, and brought the three lids away, to see if they fitted, and they do exactly.

Mrs. Keene. They appear very much like mine; I lost three such saucepans.


I was coming along, and I met with a person who had got these three saucepans, and he asked me if I would carry them along for him, and he would give me the price of a pot of beer; we were in liquor, and we laid down together and went to sleep, and when I awoke I found I was alone, and I went on about my business, and that made me so late out.

GUILTY , (Aged 24.)

Fined 1 s. and imprisoned six months .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-20
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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289. HOPKIN THOMAS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 17th of June , one watch, with inside case and outside case both of silver, value 30 s. one silver watch-chain, value 4 s. one metal seal, value 2 d. and a metal watch-key, value 1 d. the goods of Adam Kampus .


I am a sugar-baker ; a servant. On the 17th of June I lost my watch.

What day of the week was this? - On a Friday, between eleven and twelve o'clock; I lost it from my master's sugar-house, one pair of stairs; my master's name is John Barker , he lives in Prince's-square, Ratcliff-highway ; I did not see the prisoner take it; I saw it ten minutes before it was lost; the prisoner is a mill-driver , and works next to me; he came up stairs to me, and said he would take the iron screws to the smith; he did so; and ten minutes after my master called me down, and I missed my watch; and in the afternoon, between six and seven, I found it at the pawnbroker's; he is here.

Mr. Knapp. How long had you had your watch? - About four years.

What is the number? - I forget the number.

What sort of a watch is it? - A silver watch, and a silver chain.

Do you know the maker's name? - I do not.

Where did this watch hang? - On the first pair of stairs, in the sugar-house.

What is that one pair of stairs, is it a place where you work? - It is.

Was there any body else worked in that room besides? - No, no one else.

Where did it hang in that room? - On the wall, on a nail.

When you go down, do you always lock the door? - It is always shut.

The doors are always locked then; who keeps the key? - There is no key.

How many men may be employed in this sugar-house? - Ten.

These ten men, at different times, then, go into this room of this sugar-house? - They never go altogether.

They do go at different times? - Yes.

And any then might have gone in, because the door was not locked? - They could not, I am certain.


I am a pawnbroker, in Red-lion-street, Whitechapel: the prisoner at the bar pawned a watch with me on the 17th of June, between eleven and one; I had never seen him before, but I am certain he is the man.

Mr. Knapp. You are not the master? - I am not.

Where is your shop situated? - No. 30, Red-lion-street, Whitechapel.

Your master drives a good deal of trade, I believe? - Middling, Sir.

A great many people came into your shop in the course of that day? - Many.

You never saw the prisoner before? - Not to my knowledge.

What do you mean by your knowledge? - He is the man I took the watch in of.

What time of the day was it? - I cannot say positively, it was between the hours of eleven and one.

Might it not be between twelve and one?

- I believe, as near as I can form a recollection, it was rather before twelve.

Is there any particular mark or any particular way of knowing the prisoner at the bar; how long might he be in the shop? - He might be in ten minutes.

What made him so long; was you chattering about the watch all that time? - Nothing particular, but what we ask other people; I asked him if it was his own watch; he said it was; he said he had had it a long while, but he had never pledged it before.

What did you give him for it? - Half-a-guinea.

Did you enter it in your book? - I did.

Have you the book here? - No, I have not.

No, we can never get the book of the pawnbrokers here; what was there about his person that should induce you to know him again; how was he dressed? - He was dressed in a smock frock and trowsers.

Mr. Knapp to Prosecutor. What time did you miss your watch? - Between eleven and twelve.

How long might the prisoner be, after you missed your watch, before he was taken into custody? - It might be half an hour after eleven.

Court to Prosecutor. He was taken into custody about ten minutes after you missed your watch? - Yes, he was.

How long had the prisoner lived with Mr. Lemon, the millwright? - I don't know.

(The watch deposed to.)


I am an officer belonging to Wellclose-square; I was sent for to take charge of the prisoner the 17th of June, between twelve and one in the day.

Prisoner. I leave it to my counsel.


I am a cheesemonger: I have known the prisoner five months; he dealt with me, and paid me honestly.


I am a broker: I have known him between two and three years, been intimately acquainted with him; he was always a hard-working man, just and honest.


I am a chair and cabinet maker: I have known him three years; he hath bought things of me; I would give him credit as soon as any body.


I am a painter and glazier; have known him twelve months; he is a hard-working, industrious man.


I have known the prisoner a few months; he bears a very good character.

GUILTY . (Aged 36.)

Whipped , and imprisoned six months .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-21

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290. SARAH DOUGLAS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 14th of June , ten linen table-cloths, value 16 s. two pair of linen sheets, value 18 d. three linen pillow-cases, value 18 d. one silver spoon, value 2 s. and two glass tumblers, value 3 d. the goods and chattels of Christopher Ibbetson .


I am the wife of Christopher Ibbetson : I missed the articles in the indictment on Saturday the 11th of June, about ten in the morning; I did not see the prisoner take them: the prisoner used to work at days in the house at times; she had worked that day; she is a chare-woman ; I imagine some were taken from the laundry, and some from my bed-room; but the way I missed them was by getting all my linen together, and looking them over.


I am a servant to a pawnbroker; the prisoner has been a customer to our shop; I knew her perfectly; she pawned with me eight table-cloths, &c. I know nothing of the tumblers; they were pawned at different times; the first table-cloth was pawned the 16th of April, and the last the 2d of June; there was a sheet and table-cloth pledged the 21st of May, a tea-spoon the 26th of May; I gave the things to Mrs. Ibbetson.

Mrs. Ibbetson. I produce the things which I took from the pawnbroker's, and have kept them separate ever since.

(Deposed to by their marks; some with initials, and some with the name at full length.)

Prisoner. I had been very ill, and when I got well I went to work for Mrs. Ibbetson, and she did not pay me very well, and so I could not pay my debts; she owes me 20 s. now; I meant to take the things out of pawn, and replace them, as Mrs. Ibbetson had paid me.

GUILTY . (Aged 63.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-22
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence

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291. THOMAS WILLIAMS was indicted for feloniously assaulting John Tucker upon the King's highway, on the 4th of June last, and putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person, and against his will, one watch, with the inside case made of silver, and the outside case covered with tortoiseshell, value 50 s. a steel chain, value 6 d. and a steel key, value 1 d. his property .

(The witnesses examined separate, by the prisoner's desire.)


I was robbed on Whitsun Saturday, going to market, with a basket under my arm, to buy a little bit of meat for my family, in Fleet-market; between eleven and twelve, I came to Parker's-street ; in the corner of it a young fellow came in blue clothes and snatched my watch out of my pocket; I ran after him above a hundred yards; I caught him by the clothes; says I, you've stole my watch; he says no; directly the man knocked me down backwards, and there was I crying murder and stop thief, your honour; and several came, and said, where is he, the thief, the blackguard; I can say no more, for I was very faint; I found my basket again; I had only a couple of shillings, and he took the watch without saying any thing to me; I never had my watch again; I saw the man when he took my watch, and when I laid hold of him.

Which is the man? - That is the gentleman there, your honour.

Prisoner. Upon my examinations before a magistrate, that man swore to losing a watch with a shagreen outside case and metal box, and I am indicted differently here.

Court. See if there be any such examinations.

Court to Prosecutor. Describe the watch. - Your honour, I made a mistake in the shagreen case, I found it out afterwards; it is tortoiseshell; it was a metal watch gilt; I cannot tell the number; the inside case was silver.


Prisoner. Please to ask the boy if he knows the nature of an oath, before he is sworn.

Court. Do you know why you are sworn? - No, Sir.

Do you know the nature of an oath at all? - Why, Sir, if I tell the truth, I shall go to heaven; but if I tell a lie, I shall go to hell, Sir. (Sworn.) I was going to-bed, and I heard this gentleman cry murder! and I heard the cry, hold this gentleman; and I held this gentleman while Thomas Williams ran away; Thomas Williams said to Edward Curry , d - n your eyes, why don't you hold him; and Williams ran away; I am sure of that.


I belong to St. Giles's watch-house: on Saturday, Whitsun eve, the prosecutor came in crying, and by his description we knew the prisoner; I took him the 16th of June, in Russel-street, and he was committed.


I only assisted in searching him.


I assisted in apprehending him.

Prisoner. My lord, I believe this boy has been bribed to take my life away falsely.

GUILTY, but not of the robbery .

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-23

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292. THOMAS WINTER and JOSEPH SINGLETON were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 20th of June , nineteen pound weight of lead, value 2 s. belonging to James Winter , affixed to his dwelling-house .

- GRACE sworn.

I am a plumber: I made the lead, and put it to James Winter 's house; I cannot say the day of the month, above a twelvemonth; I never saw the lead in the possession of the prisoners.


I am a builder: on the 20th of June, in the morning, at four o'clock, on Monday, the patrole called me up, and told me he had discovered some lead stolen from some of my building; I immediately got up, and went and found some lead concealed at the end of Howland-street, under some scaffolding; the watchman brought it out, and I looked at it, and I said to the best of my knowledge it was some that had been affixed to some of my buildings; I sent a labourer to watch the lead, to see who would come for it; after that, it was taken to the place by Grace and myself, and fitted; it was taken from the North end of the house; it fitted very plain; it was torn from the wall-hooks, and part of the wall-hooks left in; I saw the lead on Sunday afternoon, near the evening, as I make a rule of going to see every evening if every thing is safe, as I several times have lost things.

- MURPHY sworn.

I am a labourer; my master sent me to watch the place, to see if any one came after the lead; about seven in the morning these two came; one of them went into the scaffolding, where the lead was hid, Joseph Singleton , and put it into his apron, and he brought it out to the other, and then the other ran away up Tottenham-court-road; I pursued them both, and took them; they were never out of my sight; I took them to Mary-le-bone watch-house; there was nothing found upon them; they were not searched; the lead was left in the watch-house, and from there I carried it down to Mr. Reid's office, Poland-street; and Mr. Horsefall has kept it ever since.

(The lead produced, and deposed to by Mr. Grace, being maker and putter-up, and comparing it with the other that was left remaining, exactly supplying the place that was missing, and the holes answering to the holes in the wall.)


At six o'clock I went out to get work; going along, I met this man, and he asked me if I could help him to work; and going down the rope-walk, I wanted to ease myself, and went into this place and found this lead, and took it and tied it up, and was going to take it somewhere to be owned.


I asked this man for a job; and going along this lad went into this place, and found this lead, and brought it out to me, and we were going to get it owned.

Court to Horsefall. How far is this concealment from the house where it was taken? - About 250 feet; Mr. Winter's house is on the east side of Upper Newman-street.

Jury to Murphy. Did either of these lads go down to ease themselves? - No, they were walking about the place two or three minutes before they went down.

THO. WINTER, aged 17, JOS. SINGLETON, aged 14,


Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-24

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293. ABRAHAM YOULET was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 6th of July , 149 pair of stockings, value 17 l. twelve pair of other stockings, silk and cotton, value 3 l. thirty-six cotton night caps, value 2 l. twelve thousand pins, value 12 s. the goods of Thomas Flint .

(The witnesses examined separate.)


I am servant to Mr. Flint, and carry parcels out; on the 6th of July, Wednesday, I was coming from Great Eastcheap from London-stone (Mr. Flint lives on Fish-street-hill) I was going to Mr. Flint's other shop in Marybone-street, Golden-square. The prisoner followed me from Great Eastcheap down Watling-street to the corner of St. Paul's ; I had a bag of haberdashery goods, which I was carrying.

Court. Did you see this bag made up before you went out, do you know what was in it? - Yes, there was 149 pair of common stockings, twelve pair of silk and cotton, thirty-six night caps, and twelve thousand pins; I had some ladies chip hats beside this bag, and I laid them down for fear they should get damaged. I had put my bag down before. While I did this I told the man to let the bag alone, notwithstanding he made off with them; I made the best of my way after him I could, I took up my hats and the knot; I did not overtake him; he was overtaken in Shoe-lane, but I had lost sight of him just before he ran down Ludgate-hill, when he went from me; I first saw him after he was taken in Shoe-lane, in the hands of the constable, and the constable delivered back the parcel to me; it was carried from Shoe-lane to Guildhall, and a few parcels taken out, and the rest carried to Mr. Flint's, those taken out have been kept, and are here now.

Mr. Garrow, Prisoner's Counsel. You was carrying your parcel on a knot, was not you; and your knot broke, and your parcel fell in the dirt, and you was encumbered with a parcel of chip hats at the same time; the man helped you up with the knot and your goods? - He did.

Now attend to me, and do not suffer any blame you may have had from your master to tempt you to excuse yourself; you had more than you could conveniently carry, when your knot broke? - I had.

Did not he offer to assist you to carry part of these goods? - No doubt.

How far did you and he walk together? - From London-stone to the corner of St. Paul's.

Where did he take the parcel from you? - The corner of St. Paul's.

Tell me which corner of St. Paul's it was? - The other side of St. Paul's, at Eastcheap.

The man took your goods from that corner, and at the end of St. Paul's he turned down Ludgate-hill, and you walked all this way together? - No, I could not walk on with him because I had the hats.

Were not there plenty of people in the streets? - There were.

How far was you behind him all the way? - Very near him at one time.

Why you could have stopped him a thousand times between Ludgate-hill and Fleet-street? - I halloo'd out once stop thief.

When you came to the Old Bailey was there any thing particular going forward

there, was not there a scaffolding out? - I believe there was.

I wish still you would remember the caution I gave you. Your master is displeased with you, naturally enough you have had a good deal of anger from your master about it? - I could not help it.

No, I am not now scolding you at all, my little lad. Your master is rather a rigid man, always prosecutes when he loses any thing? - Yes.

Your master is a pretty sharp man, as sharp as a flint, and as much fire in him. Do you remember stopping looking at the scaffolding in the Old Bailey? - No, Sir.

Why it was the day when eight unfortunate people were to be executed; on your oath did not you stop to see what it was erected for? - No.

Was not you told by the prisoner what it was erected for? - No.

What time was this? - About twelve o'clock.

When you came up to the man he gave up the goods, and said he was carrying them for you? your master had cautioned you against letting any body carry goods for you? - Yes.

And he was very angry with you? - I could not help his being angry with me, I believe not.

Jury. At first did you oppose his taking the goods, or did you believe he was carrying them for your ease? - I supposed he was taking away the goods.

How happened it you did not make an outcry, and repeat this outcry all the way along Ludgate-hill and Ludgate-street? why did not you run after him? - If I had ran after him I should have damaged the chip hats.


I am a constable. On Wednesday, the 6th of July, going down Watling-street, I observed James Butler with a bag on his knot, and the prisoner walking by the side of him; there appeared to be two others in company; they kept on, and I followed them, having a suspicion of them, to the corner of St. Paul's Church-yard, by the coach stand, the south side, and James Butler went to the pitching block; I went to Ludgate-hill, and there I again observed the prisoner at the bar with the goods on his knot, the prisoner had a knot before, they crossed over on the right-hand side; and was on the left; at the bottom of Ludgate-hill I missed the boy, and kept sight of the goods till the end of Shoe-lane; he ran up Shoe-lane, with the goods upon his knot; he walked before this, and there was one of the other men who was in his company in Watling-street, kept close at his heels; on this my suspicion was confirmed; I ran after him, and laid hold of him; I asked him what he was going to do with these goods? he said he was going to carry them to Holborn. I told him from what I had seen I should not suffer him to go on. I secured him and the goods, when I had so done I delivered him to John London , and begged him to take care of the prisoner and goods while I went in search for the boy. I found the boy near the bottom of Fleet-street, running as well as he could, having some fine hats in a paper, which seemed rather to obstruct his running. I brought the boy to the goods, and had them all to the magistrate, and these goods were taken out of the bag, and given to me to keep to be brought here, and I have kept them ever since.

Mr. Knowlys. Did I hear you right when I heard you say you was a constable? - Yes.

You had followed these people some way, and you had a suspicion of them? - I followed them down Watling-street.

When the man and boy arrived at the very place where they could do their business, you left them? - If I had found he gave them to the boy again at the next pitching block, I should have thought nothing of it.

This was twelve o'clock at noon? - Yes.

A great many people walking? - Yes.

You had your suspicions alive all this time? - I had.

If there had been any cry of stop thief you would have heard it, and taken the man immediately? - Yes.

You kept your eyes on the man? - I did on the goods.

On your oath did not you keep your eyes on the man? - I did certainly, I could not one without the other.

Why did not you then answer the question directly; how long was it before you found the boy after you got the prisoner? - After I had delivered the man to London, I met the boy on the run, in the road in Fleet-street.

How many minutes do you think it might be from your leaving the man to your finding the boy? - About two minutes and a half, it could not be more.

Did you see the boy on Ludgate-hill? - I did.

How far might he be from the prisoner? - About the length of this court.

What passed at the block, whether the boy gave those goods to this man you cannot say? - That I do not know any thing of.


I am a ticket porter. I know nothing more than stopping the prisoner in the street, by the desire of the constable; he had a bag upon a knot half full of things; he was walking pretty fast, but not runing.

(The goods produced and deposed to by Mr. Flint.)

Mr. Knowlys to Mr. Flint. How long was it after the matter happened that you first saw the boy? - I was sent for from Mitre-court, Cheapside.

You did not reprimand him? - I did not scold him, I might say, what a blockhead you must be for doing so.

You are certainly a man of a mild temper? - That is certainly a proof of your penetration.

Now give me a direct answer, did you or did you not treat this boy with a good deal of anger on this subject? - I did not.

You never did scold him? - I did not to the best of my recollection.

I must have a positive answer? - I did not.

You swear then positively at last that you did not scold him? - To the best of my recollection I did not; I should be glad to know what scolding is?

I do not know how to explain it better, did you damn him, call him a rascal, and such things? - I did not.

You did not feel hot or angry? - I don't know that I did at all; if I upbraided the boy, it proceeded more from a matter of admonition in cool terms, than from anger.

Then you did not scold the boy at all? - I tell you and the Court I do not recollect I did.

On your oath was not the boy scolded very much and violently abused? - No, at no time whatever on this occasion, I swear I did not.

Then if he hath sworn to the contrary, he has sworn directly false? - I wish to be understood, I might upbraid the boy, but not in an air of passion; I do not recollect I ever abused him at all on the subject at all.

When was the first time you saw the boy after this affair happened? - At Guild-hall.

Did you upbraid him in an angry manner? - I think I did it in the same manner as any man would in the same circumstances.

Give me a direct answer, was you or was you not angry? - I tell you I do not recollect I was, if I was it was in a very small degree.

Mr. Flint, for shame! do give me a direct answer to a direct question? - I do not recollect I did.

Court. Have you any recollection at all about it? - I do not recollect at all about scolding him.


The same day I was out, I was going to Oxford-road, to fetch some glass for one of my masters; coming along Watling-street, I met this boy, and his load tumbled off his head; I helped him up with it, and going along with him, I told him if he would put his load down I would take it up and assist

him. I did so, and we went all the way to the Old Bailey; he then asked me what the mob was about there? I told him. He asked me, which way I should go? I told him I should go down Shoe-lane, as the way to Marybone.

Court to Prior. When you stopped him did he say he had the goods from a boy? - I cannot say that, but he said he was going to carry the goods to Holborn.


The prisoner is my porter , I am a glass-cutter, he has worked for me this twelvemonths; I always found him very honest, and would not object to employ him again.


I have known the prisoner nine months, he has portered for me, and always behaved honest; I should have no objection to employ him again.


I am a silk-dresser, I have the care of my father's business; I have entrusted him with loads to a great amount, and would again employ him.

GUILTY . (Aged 21.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-25

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294. JOSEPH THOMPSON was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 18th of July , one silk handkerchief, value 2 s. the goods and chattels of John Rutherford .


I am an hair-dresser ; on Monday morning, about half past two, I had my pocket picked of a handkerchief as I was upon duty; I was constable of the night, on the top of Bread-street, Cheapside ; I was going my rounds, I felt my handkerchief going out of my pocket, and I then turned round and saw the prisoner (I had a common coat on) put the handkerchief into his bosom; I took him into custody, and took the handkerchief from him; I carried him to the New Compter, and in the morning I took him before the Alderman.

(The handkerchief produced and deposed to.)


The prosecutor said I had taken his handkerchief; I said I had not, he then said whether you have or no, I will swear you have.

GUILTY , (Aged 26.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-26

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295. ANN PEARSON and ELIZABETH MATTHEWS were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 12th of June , one watch, with an inside and outside case, made of silver, value 40 s. one steel watch chain, value 3 d. one metal watch key, value 1 d. one guinea and half a crown in money, the property and money of James Blake , privily from his person .

(The witnesses examined separate.)


I am a Taylor .

Are you a single man? - No.

On Sunday, the 12th of June, about eleven o'clock at night, I was rather in liquor, but I was sober enough to know what I was about. Going along Barbican three girls were standing together, and the middle one, Ann Pearson , took me by the arm, and we walked till we came to the end of a court. I cannot say the other prisoner was one of the three. When we came to the end of the court, she persuaded me to go up the court with her; I think it is Fig-tree-court ; being rather in liquor, I gave way to her persuasions; I had not been there long before I found myself robbed of my watch and money.

Did you go into a room with her? - No, I did not, I only went into the court.

Was any other girl in the court? - Not in my company, my Lord.

What sort of watch was it? - It was a silver watch, with a steel chain, a metal key; I lost besides a guinea and a half crown; I did not perceive her take these things, I missed the things before I left her; my watch was in my fob, and the guinea and half crown in my pocket. I had a pair of nankeen breeches on.

Was these breeches down at all? - They were not.

When did you last see your watch? - I felt it in my pocket a quarter of an hour before I missed it.

Have you ever recovered it? - It is in the constable's possession.

When did you last see your money? - I felt it in my pocket in a quarter of an hour before I lost it.

Was that all the money you had? - No, it was not, I had a guinea and 2 s. besides, which I lost also, but this guinea and 2 s. when I came to the watch-house, I found was put into my coat pocket, by some means or other.

When you missed this money and watch, had you left the woman or the court? - Neither, I stopped her at the instant.

Was any other woman near her? - There was another woman came up the court, that she spoke to, but I did not know who it was.

Was she within her reach? - Yes, she was.

Was the prisoner at the bar the other woman? - I cannot say that.

Did you see her give any thing to the other woman? - I did not.

You did not feel the money go at any time? - I did not.

Was the money in a purse? - It was not.

Now we all know that at this time breeches are made pretty tight, could it be possible so any person to take your watch and money out of your pocket, and you not feel it? - So it was, I did not.

Then you was tolerably drunk? - I was the worse for liquor.

Prisoner Pearson. As you was so drunk, how can you know I was the woman? - I am quite sure of it, I was sober enough for that.


I am a watch-maker, on the 12th of July (I am constable of the ward) the prosecutor brings Ann Pearson by the arm to the watch-house door, and said he had been robbed about eleven o'clock by that woman and two more in company; I searched her, and found there was no watch. When I got into Bridgewater-gardens I saw Elizabeth Matthews sitting.

What distance is between the two places? - About two hundred yards. As soon as she saw me and the watchman, she got up, and ran; she had got a young fellow with her that she lives with. I went after her, and putting my arms round her to stop her from going into a house where she was running to, I put my hand upon the watch; I had just before seen her with Ann Pearson and another. I brought her to the watch-house, and the prosecutor owned the watch, and told the name and number: this might be a quarter of an hour after the man was robbed.

(The watch produced, and deposed to by the maker's name and number.)


The watchman, confirmed the above account.


The prosecutor was in liquor, and he asked me to give way to his wishes; I said no, not without money; and as I was a loose woman of the town he gave me the watch to keep, and after he had to say to me he wanted it again, and in that scuffle I dropped it.

Prosecutor. I did not give her the watch, I gave her money.

Anderson. I saw a guinea and a half in his pocket.

Prisoner Matthews. I found the watch, it was a moonlight night.



Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-27
VerdictGuilty > with recommendation
SentenceMiscellaneous > fine; Imprisonment

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296. JANE ACRES was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of July , one silver pap spoon, value 3 s. two tea spoons, value 6 s. the property of John Ansell .


I am a housekeeper at Edmonton , I lost the pap spoon and the two tea spoons, I was not at home.


I am a breeches-maker; the prisoner used to chare at the prosecutor's; on Wednesday, about eight, or between eight and nine, I overtook the prisoner at the Bull at Tottenham High Cross, I accused her with the spoons, and she gave me three spoons out of her pocket, and she said she was very sorry, and could not think what induced her. I told her it would be better for her.

(The spoons deposed to.)


I was going home in the evening, and called to know if my mistress had any thing for me to do, and I found them the next morning in my little girl's pocket, and I was going to take them home.

Prosecutor. She was going from my house towards town.

GUILTY, of stealing one tea spoon.

( Recommended by the Jury .)

Fined 1 s. and imprisoned six months .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-28

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297. MARY WILSON was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of July , a woman's woollen cloak, value 4 s. a child's linen cap, value 1 d. a child's flannel petticoat, value 3 d. a shift, value 3 d. a gown, value 6 d. a piece of linen called a pin cloth, value 3 d. the property of Patrick Murphy .


On Wednesday fortnight I left the child in the prisoner's care, while I went to sell my goods; I returned between eight and nine, I missed the child out of the cradle, and the cloak, I went out to the watchman; the child was six months old. I lost the child and the things in the indictment. The child was found on Friday in Shoreditch, and all the things were on the child except the woollen cloak, which was at a pawnbroker's. He is not here, nor any body from him.


On Friday afternoon the prisoner came to my house in Kingsland-road, and begged me to give her some bread for her and the child; I said it was not her's, she said it was; then she said it was her daughter. I had had a hand bill about two hours before, and I sent for a constable, and took the prisoner into custody; and took care of the child, and delivered it to the father.


I took the prisoner, I did not search her; she told me she pawned the cloak in Rosemary-lane; I went there with the prosecutor's wife.


She bid me look after the child, and said I might take the child out as usual; many a time have I got a bit of bread, and brought it home to the child.


Prisoner. I am sixty-three.

Court. Whatever her age is, this is a

crime of a very serious nature, this stealing of children, she must be sent abroad.

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-29
VerdictGuilty; Not Guilty

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298. HENRY GREEN and WILLIAM DAVIS were indicted for stealing, on the 2d of July , five live geese, value 8 s. the property of James Wyatt , Esq ;

(The case opened by Mr. Knapp.)


I am steward to Mr. Wyatt, I lost five geese out of twenty-seven; I sent some men after them, and found three at Mr. Thomas's house, they are my master's; I missed them the 2d, and found them the 12th. The prisoners were taken on the 11th on suspicion. I know the geese by a foot mark, a slit in the web of the right foot.


I remember buying some geese about three weeks ago of Henry Green , the prisoner; I was to give 8 s. for six, but some were lame; Davis and Green were both together. The geese have been in my custody ever since. (The geese produced and deposed to). I pitched their heads when I bought them, which has been taken off.

- HEATHER sworn.

I sold twenty-seven geese to Mr. Wilson, Mr. Wyatt's steward; this is one of the geese by the foot mark.


I bought the geese.


Transported for seven years .


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-30

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299. THOMAS WILLIAMS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 14th of June , ten glass decanters, value 10 s. twelve glass tumblers, value 4 s two glass pepper castors, value 2 s. two glass salt holders, value 2 s. two looking glasses, value 5 s. a linen knife cloth, value 2 d. two case knives, value 6 d. two forks, value 4 d. the property of Thomas Lord ; and a cotton and worsted waistcoat, value 6 d. thirty-six oranges, value 12 s. the property of John Collier .


On the 14th of June, (I have a room in the Cricket-ground at Marybone , and keep the Cricket-ground ,) I lost the things mentioned in the indictment.


On the 14th of June, about six in the morning, I found this room was broke open, the pannel of the door was taken out, and the things gone, which I locked up over night, and lost my waistcoat and six dozen of oranges, which were under my care for a gentleman. I looked over the field, and I found one of the cruets, but nothing else; the next day I saw the things at the Justices.


I am a watchman, I stopped the prisoner, he shunned me, and I took him into custody, with the property on him, he threw down the basket and ran away, he was brought back, I searched him. All the property is here, which he had on his shoulder.


I took him into custody, and have kept the things ever since. (Produced some of the things and deposed to). This centre bit matched to the hole in the door.


I had been to seek for work on Monday, and returning and laying down under some hay, and in the night two men came and brought these things and hid them, and in the morning I went to see what it was and I took it up, I did not know the consequence of meddling with it. I am a stranger entirely

in this part of the world. I have no friends.

GUILTY , (Aged 27.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-31
VerdictGuilty > theft under 40s

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300. SAMUEL STANTON was indicted for stealing, on the 23d of June last, ten silver table spoons, value 5 l. and six silver desert spoons, value 48 s. the property of Ann Denton , widow , in her dwelling-house .


I am a widow. I lost the things in the indictment from my house, on Thursday the 23d of June, out of the parlour. The prisoner was a stranger to me, I was not at home; I saw them when I went out that day between ten and eleven, they were lying on the side board in the dining parlour. None of them have been found.


I have been a servant of Mrs. Denton's two years, I was at Mrs. Denton's door, and a man, not the prisoner, came to me, and said, my man, what number is yours? I said No. 11, Sir; then, says he, I am very right, I came from Mr. Booth to take your jack down. Then the prisoner came in after him, and the parlour door was open. I ran up stairs. He locked the door when he went out, and when I came up the door was locked. I had put the spoons on the slab, half dozen desert spoons, I missed them directly, they were all taken away, and this man came up with three spits in his hand and the jack, and was going out of doors with it; he got out of the street door, and was as far as the parlour window; I saw a shoemaker come along, and I asked him to stop him, as he had robbed our house; I saw him stopped, I never lost sight of him. The watchman took him, his name is Cockshaw; nothing was found upon him.


I took the prisoner in Bolton-street, Piccadilly (Mr. Denton lives there) about two yards from the door, very near the curb stone, he had a jack on his left shoulder and a basket in his right hand; he had no spits about him, the spits were in the passage. The boy was exclaiming about losing the spoons; at first I drew back; I took him by myself had him to the watch-house, and to Sir Sampson Wright , and he was committed.


I live in Swallow-street, I never saw the prisoner in my life, till I saw him in Bow-street; I never sent a man at any time to take down a jack, I always do that business myself.

Court to Mrs. Denton. What is the value of these spoons? - I suppose they might be worth five or six pounds at least, I cannot tell positively the value.

JOHN JUKE sworn.

The prisoner worked for me nine months, I am a whitesmith, about a year and a half ago, I never saw the least dishonesty of him in my life. I am a housekeeper.

GUILTY. 39 s. (Aged 26.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-32

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301. JOHN MEAD was indicted for that he, on the 5th of July , feloniously, wilfully and maliciously did set fire to and burn a certain dwelling house of Walter Carwardine .

A second count for that he, on the same day, unlawfully, feloniously, wilfully and maliciously did set fire to another dwelling house of the said Walter, against the statute.

The indictment opened by Mr. Knapp. And the case by Mr. Garrow, as follows:

May it please your Lordship. Gentlemen of the Jury, it is my duty, which I am called upon to discharge with more pain than I have ever executed any professional duty in the course of my experience, to explain to you the facts, and to explain to you, subject to the correction of the Court, the law by which a capital offence is to be imputed to the prisoner at the bar. Gentlemen, undoubtedly when any body contemplates such a wretch as that is, of so tender years, and recollects that he stands at this moment, one may certainly state on the brink of eternity, to be rescued from inevitable ruin only by your verdict; the sensation of such a person must be undoubtedly very painful. Gentlemen, in the course of the administration of justice, many very, very painful scenes present themselves; but inasmuch as we live in a society governed by laws, which are indispensibly necessary for the security of us all, now and then, however painful it may be to do it, examples must be made even of persons of the tender years of the unfortunate being at your bar. Gentlemen, the offence imputed to him, if it should be made out by the evidence, is of a sort undoubtedly the most atrocious that any person can commit; it sets out in the destruction of property, probably for the purposes of plunder, and none can say to what an extent it may reach; the death of many, many innocent persons is but too often involved in the perpetration of the offence, and therefore the security of society requires that whereever a case is fairly and fully made out to the satisfaction of a Jury, that Jury should discharge their duty; and some recent examples of some persons extremely young one would have hoped would have prevented the repetition of such crimes, by teaching

the youngest persons in society, that if they are endued with malice enough to put people's lives in hazard, their own lives must pay the forfeit. Gentlemen, I wish I could tell you there were doubts, I wish I could tell you satisfactorily to pronounce this boy not guilty. Gentlemen, you are to judge by the facts, if they are strong and cogent, if you find that this fire, which is imputed to him, could have happened by no other hand than his, it will be your duty to say so by your verdict; you will not look to the right hand or to the left, but you will do your duty to look always at that with an eye of mercy, and to take especial care not to give more weight to the facts given in evidence against him, than those facts compel and wring out of you, and to endeavour if you can to pronounce him innocent. Gentlemen, in trials like these very difficult and very important points of law sometimes arise; on the present occasion, neither my Lord nor you will have any such trouble; he that runs may read. There is no pretence to say that these premises burnt by this offence belong to the prisoner; there is no pretence to say he had any interest in them; there is no shadow of a question in point of law: therefore it will be entirely for you to decide that it must grow out of the fact. Gentlemen, the prisoner was employed as a pot boy to the prosecutor of this indictment, who is a publican , he lived with him some time, and after he had quitted his service, he was taken back to that service in the month of June; on the 29th of that month, between eleven and twelve, the prisoner had been directed to go to bed, which he did; the family retired to rest, every thing was made secure, no appearance of fire, no possibility of its happening in the way in which afterwards happened, but by design. In a very short time after a lodger, of the name of Hall was alarmed by a smell of fire; he got up, and when he came down stairs and went to the cellar, he found in the passage, which led towards the door, a quantity of, the remains of an old shirt burnt, the partition burnt, so that a dog might creep through it; a part of the door-post burnt, so as to reduce it to charle. From a variety of circumstances, and on the boy's coming down stairs nearly dressed, immediately after the alarm, he was secured, and his apartment searched. There will be no doubt about the law: the law and reason is this; that if any man shall burn the house of another, he shall be guilty of the offence imputed to him by the indictment; and if he shall do that, which in the second count is imputed to him, his punishment shall be equal, namely, if he shall set fire to the house of another. It is now past all question, that if you in the smallest degree burn the house of your neighbour, though you have done it, as some of the cases have been, by burning your own, which if it extended no further, would be only a misdemeanor; yet if you burn also the house of your neighbour, it will be the offence of arson; and the question always will be who is the person guilty of the fact, upon which the law arises. Gentlemen, on searching the person of the prisoner, they found upon him, in his pocket, a flint, a steel, and some matches; and on searching the bed to which he retired, there was found a tinder box. Gentlemen, it would be extremely difficult to account for any honest and laudable purpose for which he could be possessed of such instruments: it is by no means an inconsiderable circumstance that they are not found together; but that the tinder box is left in his bed-room, that they are found in his bed, and the matches and other implements necessary for kindling the light found on his person, in his pocket. Gentlemen, this could have happened by no other means, it could not have happened from without, it could not have happened from within by the means of any other persons for they will be called to you as witnesses; how then could it happen? I am afraid the conclusion is too pressing and too strong, that it happened by the prisoner at the bar. Gentlemen, I have now told you only such circumstances as are extrinsic of any account this unfortunate creature has given himself; and if there are cases in which a jury may rely on circumstances, it is in cases of enormity,for persons are not to be expected to call in witnesses to see their enormity, but some care, some precaution, some address will be used, in order to perpetrate offences like these, when no eye shall be looking on. Gentlemen, I am afraid I have stated facts enough already; but if more be wanting, I have a full and ample confession of the prisoner at the bar, which I cannot suppress; I have enquired, and you will enquire particularly in the case of a person of such tender years as the prisoner, whether any thing was said, to induce him to make the confession; whether either his fears were alarmed, his hopes encouraged, his mind set off its centre; or any thing done, that could induce him for a moment to believe he was benefitting himself by the story he was telling. I am told no such thing was done, but that this is the effect of that contrition which now and then is to be found in the minds of the most guilty, and that he made the confession. Gentlemen, if it is necessary to say more, it will be this, that if you should be of opinion to satisfy yourselves, that he had no hope, that he had no threat used to him, you will receive his confession; but I conjure you, on the part of the prosecutor, not to receive a tittle of the confession, which will be sworn to by the witness, if you should be of opinion, that at that time he made it, he had the most remote and distant idea, that it would tend to benefit him; I ask you to attend to it, only as far as the other circumstances, which cannot lie, shall appear to give it veracity; and to make it appear, that the prisoner made it merely voluntarily, and with a knowledge that he was doing that which might by and by impute to him a capital offence. Gentlemen, I shall call the witnesses to you, and I shall have discharged a very painful duty on the part of this prosecution. Much will remain for you to do: it will remain for you to examine with the most scrupulous nicety every syllable that shall be produced: it will remain for you, under the able assistance of the Judge, to observe the demeanor of the witnesses, to attend to their conduct, and to weigh their oaths, and to judge of it, as if you was about, on the verdict you are to give, to sign your own death warrant. Gentlemen, I am afraid in deciding on this case, you will sign the death warrant of the prisoner at the bar. I mention that to you only to put you on your guard: I mention it only to caution you, and to request you to deal with him, as you would expect that a jury of your country would deal with a son of yours of his years. Standing before such a tribunal, Gentlemen, before such a tribunal he will stand with all the safety that belongs to innocence. Gentlemen, after such a caution, I have discharged my duty, I meant to have done so at least, and your verdict, I am sure, will be perfectly satisfactory.


I live in Red-lion-street ; I keep the Wheatsheaf.

Did you keep the Wheatsheaf on the 5th of this month? - Yes, I did.

Do you know the prisoner at the bar? - Yes, very well; he lived with me six or seven years backwards and forwards; he came to me the 28th of June; he was there just eight days; this accident happened on the 5th of July; he came to me in the capacity of a pot-boy; he always slept in my house from that 28th of June; on the 5th of July the prisoner went up, to go to bed, about half past eleven; all the family went to bed at the same time, within a minute; there was Mr. Hall, who is here, my family consisted of my wife and self, no maid, no servant but this boy, and about twelve lodgers; we were alarmed about twelve; we went to bed at half past eleven, in the front room, one pair of stairs; when we got up, my wife struck a light, and we opened the door, and there was such a smother and smoke, I said, Suke, we shall never be able to get down stairs, we must get out at the window; but my wife said she would go down stairs at the risk of her life; and Mr. Hall and she went down stairs, and I followed them down below stairs, just in the kitchen, which is under ground, and

they were throwing water on the fire in the passage; I saw the boy at the bottom of the stairs as soon as I came down, he was perfectly dressed except his hat and his shoes, even the handkerchief about his neck; I saw the boy before I came to the fire; I met him just by the bottom of the stairs, before I came to the tap-room, which is on the ground-floor; I said to the boy, I struck him, and said, I am afraid, you dog, you have set fire to my house, and I desired him to go to bed; I immediately went down to the fire, which was burning at the door of the cellar, in the passage; the cellar-door was on fire next to the passage, and there was some straw on fire, and the remains of a shirt, against that door; the door-post was burnt to a cinder about a foot and a half high, and part of the bottom was burnt away; I could put this hat-crown through it; then Mr. Hall put some water on the fire, and rubbed the fire out with his hands; the fire was put out with water, and we brought away the straw and the old shirt: the floor is pavement: I went up stairs, and took the boy out of bed to the watch-house; the boy would not say any thing; I told him, if you will confess, I will not take you to the watch-house; when we took him to the watch-house of St. George the Martyr, in Bedford-street, I gave charge of him; I saw him searched in the watch-house; there was a flint and steel, and one match, and two keys, I saw taken out of his breeches pocket; nothing else was found upon him at that time; he had no use for such things; my wife, or the maid, lighted the fires, not the boy; the prisoner was ordered down to Bridewell that night; I came back, and we went and searched his bed, and there I found, on turning down his bed, a tinder-box and tinder, and some matches, five or six, between the sheets (they are here); the tinder-box was covered.

Court. When you took the prisoner to the watch-house, was the door of his room locked or not? - It was locked, and I put the key in my pocket; I unlocked it when I returned; I have had them ever since. (The tinder-box, tinder, matches, and part of a shirt, produced to the Court and Jury.) Mr. Hall took up the remains of the shirt and the straw in my presence; he brought it up to my bed-room door, and I put it in paper, and have kept it ever since; I had seen a shirt hanging on an ale cask a short time before, about four or five, the afternoon of the fire; the cellar-door was open all day; it was not locked that night; it appeared to be a boy's coarse nasty shirt; I understand it belonged to the last boy.

At any other time was there any thing else found, either in the house, or on the person of the prisoner? - Nothing else: I saw the prisoner on the 6th, at Justice Clarke's, on Clerkenwell-green; he said very little the first hearing; he was had up again.

Court. Was this your tinder-box? - Yes; I saw it that day, over the mantle-shelf in the kitchen, at twelve or one, or two, in the course of the day of the 5th, before the fire.

Can you speak with certainly, that that is your tinder-box? - Yes, I can.

Was there any hope held out to him, or any threats, so as to induce him to confess? - There was no more then than there is to me now; I did not hear any thing; but the magistrate spoke very civilly to him.

In point of fact, were there any hopes held out to him that he should not be prosecuted? - Not to my knowledge.

Or any threat? - No.

Court. Was that examination taken in writing by the magistrate at the time? - I believe Mr. Clarke took down something, but I do not know what he wrote.

Did the prisoner say any thing? - No, nor ever was asked to do it: at the third examination there was a sheet of paper taken down, but I did not see the prisoner sign it, nor nobody asked him to sign it, or else I do not doubt but he would.

Mr. Garrow. Do you know whether Mr. Clarke wrote what the boy said? - I believe he wrote nothing else but Mead's confession about White.

That was a charge about another person who was taken and discharged? - Yes.

Do you know at all whether the justice's clerk took down what the boy said to the magistrate? - Yes, there was a great deal

taken down by the solicitor to the fire-office.

Did you ever hear the boy give an account of this transaction at a time when the clerk did not take it down? - Yes, he said a great deal at that second hearing.

At that second hearing was any thing taken down by the justice that the boy said? - He pretended to take it down; he did not read it to me; he was writing something; he told me he had taken down what the boy had told him about the other boy; I told you he had taken down his confession.

The boy confessed the same the second hearing as the third? - The magistrate was asking the boy questions, and the clerk was writing.

Mr. Garrow. At the third examination the solicitor of the fire-office took it, and not the justice's clerk? - Yes, the justice's clerk gave it up to the solicitor; he said he was more capable.

Court. If the solicitor did it for the justice's clerk, that would be the same thing; then I really am of opinion that what he said cannot be received. - There was another boy taken up, and he was discharged last Thursday, and this boy was committed.

Court. What sort of people are they that lodged in your house? - Very good sort of people.

Prisoner. Did not my mistress say, when she came down, that she found other people below besides the boy? - My wife never told me so, nor any thing like it.

Prisoner. There was a girl down between five and dark, three or four different times, of the name of Norris? - Yes, such a girl was there, I believe, between four and five o'clock; the girl did go down once, to my knowledge; and I desired her to go down and fetch her father a light; I was down fifty times, I suppose an hundred, after that.

Court. With respect to this bed of his, did he sleep alone? - He slept alone.

Was there any other bed, or any body else slept in that room? - Nobody from the Saturday night before.

Jury. What reason have you to suppose the boy brought the straw down? - Because there was no one else goes into that cellar.

Mr. Garrow. Let me see if I understand you; in that porter cellar was some straw; had any body, except yourself, your wife, and the prisoner at the bar, recourse to that cellar? - No one at all.

Jury. I thought you said there was a girl went for a light? - She went down into the kitchen, but not into the porter-cellar; besides, I went down fifty times after she was there; I was there after eleven o'clock.

Court. When did you lock that cellar-door? - About a quarter after eleven that night.

Court. Let me understand you right; you say you sent this boy to this cellar in the day; you went into that cellar, and your wife, and this boy, and you had lodgers; now then this cellar was open to all your lodgers to go down into that cellar? - No lodgers had any business to go there.

Jury. How came the straw to be removed, and where was it after you locked the cellar-door? - We found it after the alarm of the fire.

How came you not to see it before? - Because it is a passage we do not go into; it is at the farther end.

Court. In locking the cellar-door, and going up to bed, did you not pass that passage where the straw and fire was? - No.

Then the straw might be in the passage, and you not see it, because you came from the cellar-door another way? - Just so.

Mr. Garrow. Attend now a moment; I want to know, whether, in going from your cellar-door, after you had locked it, and going to bed, you passed that place where afterwards the fire was? - No, we did not pass by that place at all; that was found against the door of the spirit cellar.

You have two cellars; one is a porter cellar, and the other is your brandy cellar; the one which hath the porter is open during the day for to go into to draw the porter; now how far distant is the brandy cellar from the porter cellar? - A good distance.

Out of sight? - Yes.

Then you could lock your cellar-door, and go to bed, without going near that door where the fire afterwards was? - Certainly.

Court to Prosecutor. Are you prepared to say, that any straw, any quantity of straw, was missing from the cyder cellar? - There was; I missed it immediately.

Mr. Garrow. You say you missed it immediately; how soon did you go into the porter cellar to see whether there was any straw missing? - Immediately on the alarm of the fire, and I had extinguished it, I went into the cellar, and was immediately assured that some straw was taken from that cellar.

Jury. Had any cyder been taken out that afternoon? - None.

Court. You said that you went to the porter cellar immediately on the fire being extinguished; did you then unlock it, had you the key? - I had, and I did this before I took the boy out of bed; and I said to my wife, Suke, there is some straw gone.

JOHN HALL sworn.

(Examined by Mr. Garrow.)

I am a carpenter and joiner, I have lodged in the house of Mr. Carwardine twelve months, I have known the prisoner between four and five years, he was a potboy; I went to bed on the night of the alarm about eleven, and the boy was ordered to bed before I was, but what became of him I cannot say; and I suppose I might be talking with my fellow-lodger about a quarter of an hour after I went up in my own room; he slept in my room, and I went to bed; I was no sooner undressed and in bed, but I thought I smelt fire; I looked to see if I had put my candle safe, and laid down again; I could not be satisfied but there was a fire in the house, and got out of bed, and went to the table, and took the extinguisher to see if all was safe, and got into bed again, and laid for about a minute, and found the smell of fire increase; I says I will not lay here to be burned, and jumped out of bed, and called Mrs. Carwardine; I was on the one pair back-room, the landlord sleeps on the one pair front-room; the stair-case was all in a smoke; for God's sake, says I, you have not put out the fire; the stair-case is all of a smoke; I went down to the ground-floor, and got to the backdoor and opened it, and called out to the watch to bring a light; the husband said to to the wife, Suke don't go down; she said she would go down if she lost her life, for she should be suffocated; she went down first, and I followed, and a part of the door of the spirit cellar was all on fire; for God's sake, says she, where is some water? and she unlocked the cellar-door; I went and fetched a pail of water from the kitchen, and throwed some on it, and just as I was coming out of the kitchen with the first pail of water, I saw the prisoner standing near to the bottom of the stairs of the kitchen-floor; the kitchen-floor is under ground, I just saw him as I run by with the water; he had his hat off and his shoes; I believe he had every thing else on.

In what manner do you think the cellar-door was set on fire? - The watchman came, and I put my right hand up the corner, and drew out that straw, with part of an old shirt.

(The straw produced.)

Was this straw a part of the general mass which had been burning against the door of the cellar? - This was.

Court. How much was you dressed? - Nothing but my shirt on and my night-cap.

How was the landlord? - I believe he had nothing but his shirt and breeches.

How was the woman? - She had nothing but her shift and night-cap.

Did you hear any body come down stairs before you? - I did not.

Nor heard any noise? - I did not.

Mr. Garrow. Then it appears to you, that you was the first person that gave the alarm, and you had been out of bed some minutes when you saw the boy? - I was.

Jury. Are the stairs very wide? - Not very wide stairs, I suppose they might be six or seven feet.

Supposing the prisoner to have gone to bed when he was ordered, he must have come down the stairs by your door? - He must, but I did not hear him when I was in bed.

You was in conversation with a person before you got to bed; did you hear any body go down then? - I did not.

Mr. Garrow. What did you do after you took this straw out? - After I had scraped the straw out, I took it up stairs, and said this must be done on purpose; and after the fire had been extinguished, Mr. Carwardine said to the boy, you young scoundrel, you have done this; and said he would take him to him to the watch-house; I told him to tell me whether it was an accident, or whether he did it on purpose; he said he knew nothing about it; we took him to the watch-house, and I said to Mr. Carwardine, if that boy sleeps in this house to-night, I will not; I saw a match, flint and steel taken out of his pocket at the watch-house; on my return from the watch-house, I went up to the bed where the boy slept, and found some matches, six, or seven, or ten, and a tinder-box between the sheets; and then Mr. Carwardine called a person, who lived in the two pair of stairs back-room, to see what was done.


I am an attorney, and am a solicitor for the London Assurance Company; I attended at Mr. Clarke's, a magistrate in Clerkenwell-green, I believe it was on the second examination; it was on Friday the 15th of this month.

Did you take down any examination? - I did.

Before the boy entered on his story had any promise been made to him? - None.

Had any threats been made use of to induce him to accuse himself? - None; it was certainly free and voluntary, without any apprehension of any kind, or any expectation.

Did you take in writing the story he has told? - I have.

Read it.

( John Mead 's examination.)

Court. Did you take this for the clerk? - I did not.

Was this examination proposed, as it would have been, if it had been taken by the clerk of the magistrate, to the prisoner to sign as a confession? - It was not.

John Mead's examination. Deposed that he was turned of sixteen last December, that he came to live with Mr. Carwardine the second time on Tuesday night was a fortnight; that the fire happened a week afterwards, by his being persuaded by White to do it; and deposed that White met Mead in Eagle street the Thursday before the fire, and that White spoke to him and asked him if he lived with Mr. Carwardine, and he said yes; that White said he wished he had staid a little longer, for his intention was to have set the house on fire, and if he could get it done, he would give Mead half a guinea. White proposed it should be set on fire on Tuesday night, and proposed to meet Mead in Eagle street; he went up to bed about half past eleven, staid till his master and mistress got up stairs, and got a light from a lodger, then went into his own room again; then went down stairs, and set fire to some straw he had prepared in the afternoon from an hamper, and put a shirt which he had taken from the cellar on the straw, and returned up stairs to his own room; in ten minutes Mr. Hall gave an alarm; his master met him on the stairs, and sent him to bed again; his master fetched him out of bed soon afterwards, and had him to the watch-house.


I lodged with Mr. Carwardine about a fortnight, in the garret; I believe the boy slept a pair of stairs below; I went to bed about half past eleven; I believe, the boy drawed the last pot of beer for Mr. Hall and me; Mr. Hall and me went up together, and I staid about quarter of an hour talking with Mr. Hall; when I bid Mr. Hall good night, and was going from his

lodging-room to my own, the boy came out of his room, and asked me, if you please, let me light my bit of candle, for it is out; I did, and then went to my own place; I suppose this was within a quarter of twelve. I did not come down at all that night.

Mrs. CARWARDINE sworn.

I am wife of Walter Carwardine . The first alarm I had of the fire was from Mr. Hall: he said, here is a fire, for God's sake we shall be all burned in our beds; I opened my door, and there was such a smother, I could hardly open it.

How did you leave your house before you went to bed? - There was no fire in the kitchen for hours, nor any candle but what I had in my hand.

How long before you went to bed was the boy sent to bed? - He and I went up to bed at one time.

Had he a light to go to bed by? - No, we never allowed a light.

Therefore then, if he had a light, he must have got it in a clandestine manner, and against your orders? - He must.

Now proceed to tell us how you found the place? - When I came to the bottom of the stairs, I could hardly fetch my breath, I just opened the kitchen-door, and Mr. Hall halloo'd out, here it is, and I found the fire was against the door of the spirit cellar; that door was always kept locked, and never kept open.

When had you last seen the door? - I had not seen the door after I went down for some spirits, about eleven or twelve o'clock in the day.

Had any body occasion to go to that cellar-door after candle-light? - No body at all, it went into the coal-cellar, and where we kept cinders.

Was you present when the boy was searched? - I was not, he was not searched at home.

Who gave him his key to go to bed? - The key was in the door; there was a young man that slept there sometimes, but he had not slept there for some nights.

Who made his bed that day? - The chare-woman.

Jury. Did the chare-woman sleep in the house? - No.

Prisoner. Did not a man of the name of Norris send his girl to go to get a light for his tobacco-pipe? - I do not remember.


I was the constable of the night, I searched the boy at the watch-house; there is a steel, a flint, a match, and two keys. (Produced.) The keys, he said, belonged to his box.


I am assistant to Mr. Lawrance, the surveyor belonging to the fire-office; I went to the premises this afternoon, to examine them, and found the door very much burned, the lower part burned through, and some remains of the straw. The hole burned in the door was about eight inches long, and three inches high, and likewise the upper part was a good deal singed.


I found this flint and steel on a shelf on the top of the cellar stairs, and I took a couple of matches from the mantle shelf, because I perceived the fire was almost out, and I took the tinder-box to strike a light. This was in the afternoon, but being called up stairs in a hurry, to my mistress, I put the flint and steel into my pocket; I left the tinder-box standing on the dresser.

Court to Mrs. Carwardine. Was the cyder in the porter-cellar, in an hamper or not? - It was in a round basket.

Was there a hamper there? - None but what the cyder was in; it was almost like a hamper, but not in the shape of one.

Mr. Garrow to Mr. Clutten. Was this liquor-cellar a part of the original formation of the house? - It is.

Court to Lede. How was the boy dressed when he applied to you for a light? - He had all his clothes on but his hat.

Court to Mrs. Carwardine. How did this boy that night, or other nights, go to bed,

about his shoes? - I never ordered him to take his shoes off.

GUILTY , Death . (Aged 16.)

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-33

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302. THOMAS WILDEY was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of June last, four saws, value 12 s. one carpenter's plow and iron, value 5 s. and divers other tools, value 24 s. the property of Thomas Wright .

(The witnesses examined separate.)


I am a carpenter and joiner . On Wednesday, the 29th of June, I locked up all my tools, at the house of Mr. Clarke in Hampstead in the morning; the lock was wrenched off, and all the tools mentioned in the indictment were gone. I have found nothing since but a chalk-line, and one of the punches; the prisoner had worked with me about ten days: he robbed me on the Wednesday, and was taken on the Sunday, and the chalk-line and punch found on him.


I am a headborough; I apprehended the prisoner with a chalk-line and a punch; the prosecutor swore to the punch and the prisoner.


The prisoner worked with me; I saw him taken.


I was present when the prisoner was taken, I went with him to the privy; and after he left the place I went there, and found a chalk-line.

(Deposed to.)


I was at work at a gentleman's house in Hampstead, I could not do without a wrench of this kind; I never borrowed one of Mr. Wright, or of the boy. I always worked by myself; that very Wednesday, as he says he lost the tools, I could have had three witnesses where I slept that night; I have a wife that I expected lived along with Counsellor Kent, and I know Squire Kent; I had not seen her for a long time, I had occasion to go down that night to look for her, I slept at the Nag's-head; I did not know when my trial came on; on the Sunday following in the morning, I came to this Hampstead, on purpose to meet this wife of mine there; which if I had stolen these tools, would any gentleman reasonably think I should go there back again; I went to the house, my master challenged me, and I went with him into his yard; I was greatly surprised, these gentlemen all said that they had a very plain proof and witness that I took them. When the watchman came he said that he did not know me, that he could not swear to me; no man can swear to the wrench, I have had the wrench above a twelvemonth.

Court to Prosecutor. By what circumstance do you know that wrench to be your's? - By having the fellow to it; they were both made out of one file; I am sure it was in the basket that evening.

Prisoner. No man can swear to the wrench.


Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-34
SentenceMiscellaneous > fine; Imprisonment

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303. JOHN LADLER was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of June last, thirteen rings of brass wire, value 20 l. the property of William Mesheter and others.


There were one hundred and forty rings of brass wire landed out of the London, Captain Frampton, on Iron-gate-wharf , the property of the prosecutor, and when

came to load them away, we found thirteen rings wanting.


I was at Madam Lacey's Wharf; I work at the wharf where this wire was hid, and I saw this prisoner go away with one of the bundles of wire off the wharf, on Wednesday the 15th of June; I did not stop him, I have no suspicion he had stolen it, it was all over dirt, and I thought he went in doors on some other occasion; I went in about an hour and an half afterwards, and saw eight more rings hid there.


I saw the prisoner and another on the wharf, about six in the morning, they went away about eleven; I thought they were about no good. My master, Mr. Finnis, picked up eight rings of wire, between twelve and one of the same day, but I saw nothing more of the boy at that time. about eight the prisoner and the other lad came to see if the property was there; and the other boy gave the prisoner a check by the hand; I took them, and asked them what they had been looking for. I secured the prisoner about ten at night, at the Sun at St. Catharine's.


I loaded the wire on Tuesday, the 14th of June; one hundred and forty rings; and on the Wednesday I loaded sixty-three, and on the Friday following I loaded sixty-four; there I found thirteen wanting.


I work for Mr. Bodddington, the gentleman to whom the wire was consigned; I loaded the wire, it was the same sort of wire that was consigned to us.


I was on board of a ship that evening they say the robbery was done, I could have had witnesses; the Justice and this gentleman would have me fully committed that night; that morning we came for two casks of beef, and our boat lay a-ground, and we came up to this place, and got on the mud that night, which gave the people a suspicion of us; Finnis said at the Justice's, he was not sure that I was the person, till a runner spoke to him; and then he came directly, and said he could swear to me, and the Justice gave him his oath after; he said before he could not swear to me.

Finnis. I never said any such thing, I am sure, to the prisoner; there was not another soul there; he tried to hide himself behind the cart, when he had the wire in his hand.

Marshall. I was there; no such thing was said.


Fined 1 s. and imprisoned twelve months .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-35
VerdictGuilty; Not Guilty

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304. JOHN POCOCK , MARY ASHPOOL the elder , and MARY ASHPOOL the younger , were indicted for stealing, on the 26th of June , thirty-two iron rivets, value 5 s 4 d. a piece of iron, value 2 s. a cast iron pitch-pot, value 4 d. and a back-band, value 6 d. the property of Benjamin Williams .


I am a wheel-wright and Smith , No. 41, Old-street ; I lost the things in the indictment, last Sunday three weeks in the morning.


I was constable of the night, last Sunday was three weeks; about two o'clock the watchman brought in the eldest of the women, I left her in the watch-house, and went with the watchman to the prosecutor's workshop, and saw the man prisoner creeping out of the workshop, with a basket on his shoulder; he came towards us, there was no other way for him to come out;

when he came near us, which was at the back of the street, he first saw us, as I take it, about ten yards; we went up to him and searched him; I told the watchman to take the basket; it had these pieces of iron; they have been all secured in the watch-house ever since, except one iron holdfast, which I have kept ever since; the man prisoner had not the pitch-pot, nor the back-band; I searched the elder woman; she had nothing about her; I know nothing more, only the other woman was brought in afterwards.


I am a watchman: on the 16th of June, about two, I heard Mr. Williams's yard-dog making a great noise, which continued some time; I went to the back part of the workshop, and the woman was sitting close to the shop, and a hole broke in the shop; I went up to her; she said she was going to sleep there; I took her to the watch-house; and we went to the place, and saw the man prisoner come creeping through a hole in the shop, with a basket; we took him to the watch-house; the basket was left in the watch-house; I went back again, and found the younger woman standing near the premises, with another basket; and a pitch-pot and chain in it, and an iron back-band, within a few yards of her; she had nothing upon her.


I was going that way, and saw the iron lay in a basket.


I am a poor woman that gets my bread in the street; I had no money to pay my lodging, and I went and sat myself down, not thinking any harm, and they took me; no man was nigh the place when I sat down; the other woman is rather troubled with fits; the girl was along with me, and I gave her a blow, and she went and sat on the other side.

Prisoner Ashpool, spinster. I have nothing to say.


Transported for seven years .

MARY ASHPOOL , the elder, MARY ASHPOOL , the younger,


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-36
SentenceNo Punishment > sentence respited

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305. MARY GRAHAM was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of June , two silver table-spoons, value 20 s. the property of James Hamilton , Esq; commonly called Earl of Clanbrassil in the kingdom of Ireland.

(The case opened by Mr. Knapp.)

Mr. Justice Buller. How is that; I took him to be Earl Clanbrassil, not commonly called so; an Earl's son has the title by mere courtesy, but not so when a man is an Earl: you may go on; I shall save the point: I think it is wrong.

(Mr. Shelton was called to inform the Court how the practice he said it had been usual so them.)

(The witness separate.)

PATRICK sworn .

I lived with Lord Clanbrassil, in Stanhope-street, May-fair , on the 13th of June last, and had done almost four years.

Has my Lord any father living? - No: I had the care of the plate; I know how many spoons he had; they were counted on Sunday the 13th of June; I did not count them on Monday; I missed five on the 14th, between two and three o'clock; they were in the dining-parlour; the prisoner was at my Lord's house on Monday evening, between nine and ten; she had been with a petition to my Lady.

Mr. Schoen, Prisoner's Counsel. How long was this woman there? - Half an hour.


I am Lord Clanbrassil's footman; I saw the prisoner on the 13th of June, about half after nine; she asked if Mr. Asplin was within; I told her yes; I went down to call him; the dining-parlour is on the left side, next the street-door; it was open; I let her in again about half after twelve, on Monday; she asked if my Lady was within, and said a person of the name of Graham came for an answer to a petition; I said I would go and let her know, she was in her dressing-room; I went to tell her; and Lady Clanbrassil said she had written to Lady Hillsborough to inquire her character, and Lady Hillsborough sent answer she knew little of her, and she sent her down half-a-crown; I brought it down; I told her Mr. Asplin would be in at three; I am sure that person is the woman; I suppose it might be nine or ten minutes, or not so much, while I went up stairs.

What is his Lordship's name? -

Mr. Schoen. I know his name is James Hamilton ; I have seen it in his arms, and his books; he signs Clanbrassil; I have seen it in the Court Kalendar.

You never saw him write it so? - He signs his letters Clanbrassil; I have seen it in his own coat of arms that he has in iron, and a plan of his estates that I have seen; James Hamilton , Earl of Clanbrassil, Viscount Limerick.


I am valet to Lord Clanbrassil; I have seen the prisoner two or three times; on Tuesday she came; she related a very melancholy tale of herself; I told her I was excessively sorry; but, if she would call in the middle of the day, her Ladyship would relieve her.


I live in Piccadilly; I am a silversmith: she came into my shop about five in the evening, and offered to sell these spoons, on the 14th of June, Whitsun Tuesday; I asked her what she asked for them; says she, weigh them, and you will know better what to give me; I asked her what name this was upon them; she said, I do not know, there is no name that I know of; says I, here is some person's crest, is it yours; where did you get these spoons; says she, it is of no consequence to you where I got them; if you do not like to buy them, give them to me again: at last, with a deal to do, she told me that she got them from the Marchioness of Buckingham; that she was a distant relation to her Ladyship, and received them as presents from her; I kept the spoons; nothing particular happened; then I asked her where she lived, and she gave me a right direction where she lived, in Little St. James's-street; I asked her if she had any objection to my going with her to her lodgings; she said she had not; I said I would go with her; instead of which, I went out at the back door, and went to the place where she said she lodged, and inquired and found she did live there; and about six or seven days after, I found out to whom those spoons belonged; I went to the Earl of Clanbrassil's house with the spoons, and shewed them to the servant that opened the door.

- BOYER sworn.

I saw the spoons when the last witness brought them; it is Lord Clanbrassil's crest and coronet; I missed five on Tuesday the 14th, between two and three; I was going to lay the cloth.

Prisoner. I do not know what to say.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

Court. Prisoner, there is an objection that appears on the face of your indictment, which does not affect the merits of your case; but, however slight it may be, you ought to have, and you shall have, the benefit of it; therefore no sentence must be passed upon you till the next session, and then you will know the opinion of the Judges.

[No punishment. See summary.]

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-37

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306. OWEN M'CARTHY was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of July , a feather-bed, value 5 s. one pillow, value 12 d. two blankets, value 2 s. and a pair of linen trowsers, value 12 d. the property of Andrew Wilson .


I am a Dane; I am a sailor ; I lost the things in the indictment, last Wednesday week, from a house, Mr. Westerlin's, where I lodged; it was my own bed and bedding; I saw them there when I went out, between eleven and twelve; they sent for me, and the man was taken; I carried them between ten and eleven, and put them in the back-room of the ground floor.


I was in my own house; the prisoner took the bag from out of the window; the prisoner was outside; the back of the house looks into Russell's Buildings: I asked him if that bag was his; he said, yes, it was; I said, are you sure it is; he said, yes; I sent over my daughter to ask, and they took him.


I took the prisoner, the bottom of Russel's Buildings; he had this bag.

(The blankets deposed to, two being sewed together.)

Prosecutor. I know this old sea jacket.


I had been working a ship out; a man met with me in the street, in a sailor's dress, and he asked me to carry that for him, for he was afraid of the press-gang; these people followed me, and said I had stole it; all the neighbours cried out, shame!

Fuller. I am sure that the prisoner was the man I saw taking the things out of the window.


Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-38

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307. WILLIAM BLEWETT was indicted for stealing, on the 18th of June last, one mare, price 4 l. the property of John Redford .


I am a farmer : on Friday the 17th, or the morning of the 18th of June, I lost a mare, in the night, from a field near the nine-mile stone, near Southall ; I had seen her between seven and eight o'clock on Friday evening; I saw her again at Norwood, about fourteen miles from my field, on Wednesday the 22d, about two o'clock, in a miller's yard; she was brought home by a postman that night; the prisoner was a stranger.


I am a servant to a farmer; I work for Mr. Stone, Pinner's-park; I bought this mare on the 19th, about nine o'clock in the morning, on a Sunday, at Norwood, going along the road, of William Blewett , a gipsey; I gave four guineas for her to the gipsey; he told me he had swapped her with a man at Marlow, and there was no danger of its being stolen; John Redford came on the Wednesday following, and took her away: I kept the mare at some little meadows, with an acquaintance, where I lodged, his name is Scott, he is here present; a miller took the mare away, and they sent for me, and I met them at Pinner, and the mare was in Pinner-park; I worked at Pinner; I left the mare at the meadows in the morning, at Norwood; Mr. Redford owned her as his mare, and I gave it up to him, and he sent the mare home by the postman; I and Redford went after the prisoner, and found him under a hedge, between Radcliff and Ulstree; he laid down; and I went up to him, and told him a man had owned the mare, and he must go with us; Mr. Armstrong was with me; he said he would with all his heart; he said he would give an account where he swapped another for it; I had him up to Ulstree, and from thence to the justice's, and he was committed.

(Mr. Redford describes the mare: a blaze in her face, one white foot behind, about fourteen hands high, a bay blind mare; she was six years old, worth about four or five pounds; she had a broken knee, a sort of a nag-tail, crossed leg behind.)

Court to Baldwin. What was this miller? - He was a man that took the mare out of the meadow for the sake of the guinea reward.

- ARMSTRONG sworn.

I am a baker: I met this man with the mare on Saturday morning the 18th of June, between seven and eight, and he offered me this mare to sell for six guineas and a half; it was about four miles from where she was stolen; I looked at the mare, and I saw she was blind; he said she was not, she had only got a ball eye; I told him I thought he did not come by her honestly, and he pulled out a paper out of his pocket, that he had swapped a horse for this mare, on the 1st of May, at the Crown, at Great-Marlow; he asked me when I should be home; I told him I should not be home before eight o'clock; and I told him I had a mare, and I would make a rap with him; I am sure the mare he had is the prosecutor's mare; I saw the miller give him the mare: when he brought the mare up on the Saturday night, I refused her, and he went off with her to Pinner.


I swapped this mare with a man at Marlow: if I had stolen it, I would not have laid about the place.

Jury to Prosecutor. How long have you had this mare? - Since the 17th of last May was a twelvemonth.

GUILTY , Death .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-39
SentenceCorporal > private whipping

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308. JOHN PARKER was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of June , two silver table-spoons, value 2 l. and other things , the property of Cecilia Gordon .


On the 16th of June I lost the things in the indictment; the maid-servant saw the boy running out of the garden, and I saw him throw the plate from him; he might then be about a hundred yards from me; he ran from me, but he never was out of my sight till he was taken; I saw him taken.

ANN AIRS sworn.

I saw the boy go out of the garden-gate, I did not see him come into the house; I seeing him run, asked the man-servant if any boy had been in; he said, no; I directly went into the parlour, and missed the plate; I saw him drop the plate; it has been in my possession ever since. (Produced, and deposed to.) The boy was never out of my sight till he was taken.


Privately whipped , and discharged.

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-40
SentenceMiscellaneous > fine; Imprisonment

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309. THOMAS MORGAN was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of June , two cloth coats, value 4 s. two linen shirts, value 4 s. and other things , the property of William Bowell .

Mrs. BOWELL sworn.

I am the wife of William Bowell : on the 13th of June, Thomas Morgan came and took lodgings; when his week was up, he did not pay me; on the Tuesday after his week was up, I went to speak to him about it; I told him; he said he would call; he went out, and about five o'clock in the afternoon I went up and found Mr. Mackintosh's trunk broke open; he had been a lodger, and had gone away, and left his property in my custody: at two o'clock the prisoner came and knocked at the door, and I let him in; he went to bed; and at

three o'clock, when the watchman came, I called him, and we went up and took him; the coat he had on, when I let him in, was Mr. Mackintosh's; we found some duplicates in his pocket, which led us to a pawnbroker's.


I am a pawnbroker: I received a pair of nankeen breeches, and a half handkerchief; I believe I took them of the prisoner.


I produce the duplicates found upon the prisoner.


I bought these things of a young man that lodged at the place before me.

Court to Mrs. Bowell. When had you last seen the things? - I had seen the coat about eleven o'clock that day.

GUILTY . (Aged 25.)

Fined 1 s. and imprisoned one month .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-41
SentenceImprisonment > newgate

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310. JOHN COOPER was indicted for that he, on the 17th day of April last, at the parish of Kirkford, in the county of Sussex , on John Andrews , an officer of our Lord the King in his Majesty's excise, and on shore, in the execution of his duty, as such officer, unlawfully and violently did make an assault, and unlawfully and violently did oppose and assault him, on shore, in the due execution of his duty, against the statute, and against the King's peace .

A second Count, for that he, on the same day, unlawfully and forcibly did hinder, oppose and obstruct the same person in the execution of his duty.

The indictment opened by Mr. Garrow, and the Case by Mr. Fielding, as follows:

May it please your Lordship: Gentlemen of the Jury; the charge which is now brought forward against the prisoner at the bar, my learned friend has stated to you to be that of having obstructed an excise officer in the execution of his duty. When I look at Gentlemen of your appearance, I am convinced it cannot be necessary to enlarge on the necessity there is of executing those laws which are made for the preservation of those people concerned in the collection of the revenue: indeed, at this time of day, wherever we turn our eyes, and attend to that information we receive daily, we have great reason to be content with the happy constitution and government of this country, and with the administration of its laws, as that administration takes place in this country; but, Gentlemen, there could be no support of the constitution, there could be no support of the government, if, after the establishment of taxes, which we all know are necessary to be imposed, when those taxes are imposed, there must be people employed to collect them, and that those officers require protection. It is unnecessary for me to enlarge on this; you will at once feel it: Gentlemen, no prosecutions of this sort, and indeed no prosecutions instituted by any of the public boards, ever can come before a jury without the approbation of the crown officer; the Attorney-General is immediately consulted; he judges of the propriety of submitting that complaint before a jury, before any such complaint can be submitted; and I believe I may say it is known to the learned Judge, and many others, that there has not been any one person ever prosecuted by him, but on the strictest necessity, and even then with the utmost lenity. The conduct he would have prescribed to himself I shall endeavour

to follow, it devolving upon me to discharge his duty; and at present I think it my duty especially to follow that plan, not at all to inflame your minds on any accusation that shall come before you, but rather to require you deliberately to examine the evidence, and if upon that evidence there should be any doubt, he will be best satisfied, the public will be best satisfied, and you will be best satisfied, in giving a prisoner at that time the advantage of that doubt. In the present instance, the witnesses you have to hear will not be many: the state of the case is this; on the 17th of April, 1790, John Andrews , being on his duty, and surveying some of the people in his neighbourhood, he observed the prisoner at the bar, in company with three others, all on horseback, and their horses loaded with tubs, as they call them; they are the little tubs in which they smuggle brandy; one of the parties were leading horses, and these horses were loaded with tubs; Andrews, as his duty was, went to the foremost man, and attempted to take hold of that foremost horse; when the prisoner, and two other persons not in custody, came towards him, and made use of the most opprobrious language; not contented with that, they immediately struck him with a large weapon, and which might by possibility have subjected them to a higher indictment: they then meditated more severe usage to him; but, recovering immediately from his blow, he crept through a hedge, and endeavoured to make his escape through a garden; the prisoner and another, on horseback, leaped the hedge, and pursued him; there was a little cottage near there, into which Mr. Andrews luckily escaped; if not, probably it was, from the pursuit that was made by those men, that they would have gone on to some greater violence that might have hazarded this man's life: therefore, gentlemen, you see it is for this offence, which as soon as communicated to the commissioners, which was the duty of Andrews to do, they put it into a state of inquiry: Andrews was examined; the nature of his character, and the usage he had received, called for a public inquiry, it called for public punishment; the evidence therefore can only be, as to the main fact, from Andrews himself: now, gentlemen, it happens with us in this country, that as we are satisfied with the testimony of one man, so it frequently will happen, that that testimony, if aided by the corroborating testimony of three or four others, is sufficiently convincing; and if the evidence you shall receive from one man, namely, Andrews, when aided by the conduct of the man himself, his demeanour and behaviour; and if that man, so standing before you, and so demeaning himself, appears to deserve your credit, you will give the same credit to one as you would give to the testimony of four; particularly when there can be but one witness, you will think it your duty to attend to those circumstances from whence your opinion of him is to be founded; and it is my desire, that if, from any thing about the man, you see there is any thing suspicious, or doubt that his story is not founded in truth, of course you will immediately discharge your duty by rejecting such testimony altogether: on the contrary, if his behaviour be such as to demand your credit properly, you will be as much satisfied with that evidence coming from a single witness, as if from more: but on the present occasion there will be a corroboration of the testimony of Andrews, namely, the testimony of a woman to whose house he luckily escaped, and who was witness of his treatment; she will tell you the situation of this Cooper being with his people, but she will not affect at all to identify the persons of these prisoners.

Gentlemen, this offence was committed in Sussex, but it is tried here; it so happens that, from the operation of a very beneficial act of parliament, and which was found to be essentially necessary in the revenue laws, that many offences committed and prosecuted in those counties where smuggling was carried on, it was found over and over again, that prosecutions instituted, properly supported by the most indubitable testimony, yet there was unaccountable partiality, and conviction was almost impossible;

therefore it was that the legislature thought fit, on proper inquiry, that the proper officers should have it in their power to bring the trial on in another county; no man will be dissatisfied, when they consider all these prosecutions are generally brought in this Court, where I may say, without any flattery to you, gentlemen, I always see the most respectable jury that this country can afford, so far that prisoners have the benefit of it: there is a little inconvenience now and then attending persons being brought up from far counties to make their defence here, as they cannot so readily come at their witnesses that may be necessary for their defence; it is far to bring them; and therefore, in cases where there may by possibility be evidence that would resist the accusation, I do acknowledge that observation should have its full weight with the jury; but in the present case, according to the circumstances I am stating to you, it is impossible, in the nature of things, if you believe Andrews, that there could be any witness on the present occasion that would not be equally offenders with the prisoner; therefore, on the present occasion, that observation does not apply with him; for, however I have already stated to you the nature of this offence, I have already stated to you the necessity there is of protecting the officers of the revenue; to gentlemen of your description it is impertinent to make any comment on that; the officer must be protected, the taxes must be collected, and these laws are alone made for the protection of those gentlemen who are fair traders; for certain it is, that smuggling very much indeed interrupts that class of traders. Gentlemen, there is another circumstance, which always will lead a jury with considerable satisfaction to the discharge of their duty on an accusation of this sort; if they are satisfied with the evidence before them that the accused is guilty, I think they will in general be satisfied with their verdict of Guilty, inasmuch as the example of punishment will certainly promise a very considerable public advantage, not only to the revenue, not only to the officers, not only to the fair trader, but to that very class of men that are induced to that sort of traffic which is called smuggling: certain it is, that, by means of the efficacy of the law, of late years that class of men have been very considerably diminished, and in proportion labour and agriculture considerably increased, so that their families enjoy the benefit of these salutary provisions. Gentlemen, I will not trouble you any more on a case like the present; you will hear Andrews; if you are satisfied with his evidence, although but one witness, you will with equal satisfaction say the prisoner is Guilty; if you are dissatisfied, either with his story, or appearance, or any thing in the world, of course you will reject his testimony, and acquit the prisoner.


I am an officer of the excise, and was so on the 17th of April, 1790.

Was you stationed at Storrington, in the county of Sussex? - Yes.

Was you out on your survey that day? - I was.

Did you fall in with any smugglers? - I fell in with some smugglers, that is, four men, having in their possession seven horses, all loaded with tubs, small casks, that contain about four gallons.

What do you call them? - Half anchors.

Were they slung? - They were slung in the same manner as smugglers usually carry them, and thrown across their horses. The men were all on horseback, they were leading the other horses.

Did you know any of them? - I knew three of them.

Look at the man at the bar, was he one of them? - He was one of them.

Did you know him before? - I knew him before.

Are you perfectly sure he was one of them? - Perfectly sure.

You have no doubt? - Not the least; I was crossing a lane, and I saw these four men coming up, having seven horses, and the first man was leading two horses, and I attempted to seize these horses, to stop them; he kept going on the lane, and I found I

could not secure them; then the prisoner at the bar and the other men came up, swearing in a terrible manner, with oaths and imprecations, they seemed determined they would murder me. William Milton , the master of the gang, then calls out to them, d - n his eyes level him, give it him, level him, several times; he then struck me with the head of his whip; then the prisoner and Milton came up, and struck me several blows with their bludgeons, they had each a bludgeon; I attempted to keep off the blows with my stick, but however they presently knocked me down, and cut a very large wound in my head, and beat me very much in different parts of my back and body as I was down, I received many blows after I was down, but I do not know who gave them me; as soon as I could recover myself a little, I got over into a field, and from thence into a garden, cross that garden into another field. I looked back, saw the prisoner, and Milton, coming after me, full speed on their horses; I had just time to reach the fence; they were threatning and swearing terribly at me; at the same time I got over the fence, and they came up to the fence, and there they swore very much indeed, and swore they would give it to me the very next opportunity.

How often before this had you seen the prisoner? - I had seen him many times, the very Saturday before I met him at Milton's, loaded with tubs; I attempted to take him then; I know him to be Milton's servant , I have seen him ride Milton's horse many a time.

Did the prisoner live within your survey? - I did not survey that place that he lived at, I knew him perfectly well.

What were you purposing to do at the time these people attacked you? - I intended to have taken some of these goods.

Was you therefore hindered from that intension by their attack? - I was, it was my sole object to seize them.

Whose house did you get to? - To a place they call Black-house.

What is the woman's name? - Mrs. Wild.

Mr. Knapp, prisoner's Counsel. Andrews, was there any other officer with you at this time? - No officer.

How many might there be of the number of smugglers? - Four.

You said there were seven horses and four men? - Yes.

They took no notice of you first? - No.

Mr. Garrow. They did not begin to attack you till you began to do your business as a revenue officer? - No.

Court. What time of day was this? - I am not sure to the exact time, but I think it was between four and five in the afternoon, it was the 17th of April.

Perfectly light, and every thing? - Yes, as light as it is now.

You say you knew this man before? - I did.

How was he dressed? - I think he was dressed in a black round frock, and a round hat.

The usual dress of these people? - Yes, as to his person I am satisfied.

You was not alarmed when this man first came up to you? - No, I was not alarmed.

How many minutes was it after Milton came up to you first that he was followed by the other two men? - It was not Milton that came up first, it was a man whose name I never could find out.

That man you do not know? - That man I do not know. This man came up within a minute or less.

Had you been struck by the first man? - I had not, he gave me no abusive language. After Milton called out d - n his eyes, level him, give it him, then they struck me with their whips.

Where is Milton? - He is not yet taken.

Do you know whether the prisoner struck you? - I be not sure it was him who knocked me down.

Are you sure that he struck you? - Yes, I am sure that one of them struck me down, I be not sure whether it was the prisoner or Milton, I am not sure that the prisoner struck me.

Are you sure that the prisoner struck you at all? - Yes, I am sure that the prisoner

struck me on the arm and head, I am sure of that.


I am wife of James Wilds , I live at Black-house, in the parish of Kirkford.

Do you remember the time when Mr. Andrews, the officer, came to your house? - About a twelvemonth ago.

Do you remember his coming? - Some man, I cannot say who.

Look at him? - I cannot be sure.

Do you remember a man coming there all over blood? - A man came there bloody.

Was he in a bad condition? - Pretty much.

Did you see any people on horseback when he came to your house? - Yes.

Did you know them? - No, Sir, never a one of them.

Look at the man at the bar, do you know him? - I do not know him.

Did you ever see that man before? - No, Sir, not that I know of.

What is your husband? - He lives in Sussex.

Yes, yes, at the Black-house? - Yes.

So I thought, look at that man. - I am sure I do not know one feature of his face.

Did you see any body after the man came bloody to your house, did you see any body on horseback come up? - Yes, two men rode through the gates, they went after that man.

They went after the bloody man, did they? - Yes.

What did these two people, or either of them, say to the man who came bloody? - I do not know what they said.

The man was very bloody however? - Yes.

You got him some water, and dressed his wounds for him; did you know Mr. Milton? - No.

Yes, you do? - No, I do not.

Mr. Knapp, Prisoner's Counsel. Gentlemen of the Jury, it falls to my lot on this occasion to defend the present prisoner at your bar; and, gentlemen, it happens very unfortunately indeed for the prisoner at the bar, that he has such very poor assistance, but as he has called for that assistance, he is entitled to the best exertions I can give him on this occasion. With respect to the general principles that Mr. Fielding, the Counsel for the Crown, has laid down in the beginning of his speech, I perfectly coincide with every one of them; I agree that if taxes are imposed the collectors ought to be protected; I also perfectly coincide with him in the character which he has thought proper to point out of our present worthy Attorney General; I am sure that I can agree with him to the full extent of that description; I am perfectly convinced, and very ready to declare, that a more honourable man in the situation which he now fills, never was placed in that situation. But having got rid of that, we are again necessarily driven to the question which you are to decide, and the question that my learned friend, Mr. Fielding, stated to you certainly does lay in a very small compass indeed; and, gentlemen, the real question on this record is, whether the prisoner was one of those who assaulted, hindered, opposed and obstructed Mr. Andrews, who states himself to be a collector of excise, in the execution of his duty, and while he was in that execution? Now, gentlemen, in order for you to judge on this case, it will be necessary to advert to the evidence, as I think Andrews has stated to you, and I am under the correction of his Lordship if I am wrong, that he does not recollect which of the persons, either Cooper or whether the other person knocked him down, certainly I am right, though corrected by Mr. Garrow; he did not knock him down. Now we will see whether I am correct and right; that he did not strike him at all, I believe, I am in the recollection of every body that hears me; that when he was first asked he did say he did not know that the prisoner ever struck him; but when he was pressed a little, he does say he was the person that struck him several blows on the arm and head; so that by the exertion of that ingenuity, which you have often had opportunities

to admire, he is brought to say at last that he did strike him; it would be very material for them to have produced this woman, if she could possibly have identified the person brought to her to be Andrews; instead of that in the way in which Andrews himself stated it first, and then altered his tone; and when you come to the woman, who says she does not know a single feature in Andrews's face; will you presume against the defendant, who comes here upon his own surrender, that which neither of the witnesses have dared to state; this is the single question you have to try, under circumstances that certainly on their own testimony have made it doubtful; but thank God it is for you to decide, and not for any one individual in this Court. My learned friend, Mr. Fielding, has alluded to the inconvenience of being tried here; at the same time he talks of the very great benefits to be derived from this act of parliament. Mr. Fielding certainly on this occasion blows a little hot and cold; it is necessary for the justice of the country that the act of parliament should protect the officers in the collection of the revenues, it is necessary that the trial should be had where they shall have a fair and impartial one; but surely it is of equal service to individuals that they should have opportunity, poor and destitute as they are, particularly in these countries bordering on the sea, that they might have the means of procuring some witnesses, and in order to speak in their behalf farther, they might have witnesses if the act of parliament had given them means; and I am sure you will presume it so to have stated some facts which might have been necessary to have led you to the discussion of the present subject; instead of that, here is a man brought, at a very great distance indeed, poor, without a farthing, save what his miserable friends have been able to pay his Solicitor and Advocate on this occasion; he has not a farthing for witnesses. Where are his benefits? I cannot conceive how they accrue to him; therefore I say when you have a doubtful case before you, when the prosecutor has contradicted himself, at least mended his evidence; and God forbid you should encourage witnesses to mend their cases; when you have a woman coming before you, whom they mean to prove a fact, which, if it had been proved, certainly would have been a great corroboration of the prosecutor himself; instead of that she comes here, and says she does not know a single feature in his face; for God's sake take into consideration the situation of the defendant, that how little able he is to make that defence, feeling the common feelings of humanity, you must presume that he might have had witnesses to have proved his case, which would have left no doubt. Gentlemen, I shall set down with a perfect confidence on this subject, knowing, as I do, that you have given perfect attention to this case, as you do to every other case; and knowing, as I do, the prisoner will have every advantage from a compassionate jury he ought to have, and which, by the law of this country entrusted in your hands, he will receive.

The Jury retired for some time, and returned with a verdict

Guilty of the second count, of obstructing the officer in the execution of duty .

To be imprisoned twelve months in Newgate .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

20th July 1791
Reference Numbert17910720-42
SentenceImprisonment; Miscellaneous > sureties

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311. BRIDGET JUDGE and BRIDGET PRENDERGAST were indicted for that they, on the 25th of June last, one counterfeit shilling, as and for a good one, did utter to one George Copeland .

A second count for having in their possession another bad shilling, and uttering it to one William Cowan , on the same day, against the statute.

(The case opened by Mr. Fielding.)


I am a constable, I was in company with Mr. March in Fleet-street , I observed the

two prisoners, I was in conversation with Mr. March; I saw them part, I had a suspicion, and went after Judge, she went into Mr. Smith's, the haberdasher's; I left Prendergast in Fetter-lane, I saw Judge stand by the side of the counter, I desired somebody would serve her, and Copeland served her; he shewed me the shilling, and it was a bad one; she then went out and joined the other, and went up Fetter-lane together. Judge went into a public-house and called for a glass of gin; before I got in the shilling was tendered to the landlord; I asked him to let me look at it, I saw it was a bad one, the landlord marked it; I left her in custody of March, and followed Prendergast some time, and came up to her almost at the top of Fetter-lane, I asked her to come into a shop; she attempted to put her hand in her pocket, and I prevented her and searched her, and found four sixpences and two shillings, all bad; I took her to the other at the public-house, and searched her, she had only three halfpence, and a piece of dimity; and I found a penny worth of thread on Judge, and nothing else; there was just five penny worth of halfpence.


I was in company with Stapleton, I staid at the door: I saw Judge when she came out of Smith's shop, Prendergast joined her, and they sat down on a step a few minutes, about three; at their first going to Smith's I observed them changing something; Prendergast had in her hand something, and gave it to Judge. (Confirmed the last witness.)


I served Judge and took a bad shilling of her.

(The shilling deposed to.)


The publican, deposed that the prisoner Judge came to his house for a glass of gin, and offered him a bad shilling, as the first witness deposed.

(Deposed to.)


I am a silversmith; this is counterfeit: the four shillings and two six-pences that were found in the paper on Prendergast, are all counterfeits.


I work hard.


I never saw this woman in my life.

The prisoner Prendergast called two witnesses to her character.



Court to Prisoners. I think it my duty to inform you both, that having been found guilty as common utterers, the next time you commit this offence, it is made felony, and from the frequent repetition of this offence against the public, it will be necessary to make examples of some of you. The sentence of the Court, which I am directed by law to pass on you is, that you be each of you,

Imprisoned twelve months in gaol , and give security for one year .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.

Old Bailey Proceedings punishment summary.
20th July 1791
Reference Numbers17910720-1

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The Trials being ended, the Court proceeded to pass Sentence as follows:

Received Sentence of Death, 11, viz.

Augustine Pierre , alias Peter Champlin, alias Chapman, alias Peter Duvall, - 280

Blewitt, William - 307

Clark, Charles - 273

Finch, John - 278

Godfrey, Thomas - 269

Hunt, Joseph, alias Ryland 278

Kane, Ann - 274

Lock, John - 279

Mead, John - 301

Rango, Daniel - 278

Smith, John - 269

To be Transported for Seven Years, 23, viz.

Ansted, Bridget - 281

Bishop, Samuel - 277

Douglass, Sarah - 290

Freeman, William - 286

Gill, Charles - 276

Green, Henry - 298

Johnson, William - 283

Latimer, Richard - 272

Matthews, Henry - 270

Matthews, Elizabeth - 295

M'Carthy, Owen - 306

Meredith, William - 275

Pearson, Ann - 295

Pocock, John - 304

Singleton, Thomas - 271

- , Joseph - 292

Stanton, Samuel - 300

Thompson, Joseph - 294

Williams, Thomas - 291

- , Thomas - 299

Wilson, Mary - 297

Winter, James - 292

Yowler, Abraham - 293

To be imprisoned Twelve Months, 2, viz.

Hannah M'Carthy , (fined 1 s.) John Cooper .

To be imprisoned Six months, 5, viz.

William Gray , (fined 1 s.) Hopkin Thomas, John Hickey , (fined 1 s.) Jane Acres , (fined 1 s.) John Richey .

To be imprisoned One Month, 1, viz.

Thomas Morgan , (fined 1 s.)

Trial of William Folkes postponed to next Session.

Trial of Henry Hall, for Bigamy, ditto.

Trial of - Simpson, ditto.

Sentence on Mary Graham respited. - Case reserved.

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