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THE WHOLE PROCEEDINGS ON THE KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON; AND ALSO, The Gaol Delivery for the County of Middlesex; HELD AT JUSTICE HALL in the OLD BAILEY, On Wednesday the 18th of October, 1780, and the following Days;


TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND BY JOSEPH GURNEY , And Published by Authority.



Printed for JOSEPH GURNEY (the PROPRIETOR) And Sold by M. GURNEY, No. 34, Bell-Yard, near Temple-Bar.



KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON, &c.

BEFORE the Right Honourable BRACKLEY KENNET, LORD MAYOR of the City of London; The Hon. Sir JAMES EYRE , Knt. one of the Barons of his Majesty's Court of Exchequer; The Honourable JOHN HEATH , one of the Justices of his Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; JAMES ADAIR , Serjeant at Law, Recorder; and others his Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer of the City of London, and Justices of Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City and County of Middlesex.

London Jury.

Richard Butterworth

John Berry

Abraham Sanders

William Branham

Thomas Bilson

Richard Dickenson

James Maitland

John Hughes

Peter Milne

William Benwick

Hugh Innes

John Simpson .

First Middlesex Jury.

James Caney

Philip Splidt

William Pell

Thomas Ribble

Thomas Bradshaw

Francis Ewer

Richard Price

John Horsford

Christopher Ludekins

Thomas Blower

Robert Mills

William Heard .

Second Middlesex Jury.

William Handy

Hugh Wright

Thomas Gilbert

Samuel Cochran

Edward Knight

Roger Evans

Lacey Punderson

John Robinson

George Oliver *

* Jonathan Page , served part of the time in the stead of George Oliver .

William Robertson

Beson Sellers

James Gibson

18th October 1780
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561. ANN LAVINDER was indicted for stealing a silk gown and coat, value 20 s. a muslin gown, value 10 s. a linen gown, value 10 s. a quilted petticoat, value 8 s. five muslin aprons, value 25 s. four linen shifts , value 20 s. two pair of cotton stockings, value 2 s. a linen handkerchief, value 1 s. a metal watch, value 3 l. a pair of stone shoe-buckles set in silver, value 10 s. a diamond ring, value 40 s. a stone stay-hook set in silver, value 2 s and a pair of silver shoe-buckles, value 8 s. the property of William Adams , in the dwelling-house of the said William , October 2d.


I am servant to Mr. Adams, the prosecutor. I went to the door to the milk woman, and saw the prisoner coming down stairs with a bundle of things in her apron; I seized her by the gown. The prisoner had then got out of the door, and was turning round; I pulled her back into the house and pushed her into a back parlour where my master and mistress and two young ladies were. The prisoner being questioned about these things, which she then had in her possession, said a short gentleman in green clothes gave her the bundle. Then she let them drop.


I saw the goods a fortnight before they were lost. I am a tailor by trade. There was a latch on the outside to open the door by which means I suppose the prisoner got into the house. She was brought into the room with the bundle, by William Payne ; he said to my wife, in my hearing, and the prisoner's, Madam, this woman has stolen some of your clothes , upon which the prisoner said a short man in a green coat gave them to her.

(The goods were produced in court and deposed to by Mary Adams .)

Adams. The watch and buckles were concealed in her stays; the greatest part of them were in the bundle. Upon first being questioned about these things, she said a man in the two-pair-of-stairs room gave them to her. I went up stairs and found four drawers in one room broke open; I missed the watch and buckles. I had had the muslin gown in my possession half an hour before it was found upon the prisoner. I came down again to the prisoner, and charged her with having taken, besides the things found in the bundle, the watch and buckles. She denied having taken them; upon which I took her into a little room apart to search her. She took them out of her stays, and laid them down. Then she went down upon her knees and asked pardon.


I am servant to the prosecutor. I was present when the prisoner was searched; she herself unpinned her handkerchief and gown, and took out of her bosom the watch, two pair of buckles, the ring, and stay hook, and she asked pardon.


I was very much in liquor; I went into the entry to tie up my garter. I know nothing about it; I never saw any thing.

GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-2
VerdictNot Guilty

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562. HANNAH SMITH , spinster , was indicted for stealing a metal watch, value 5 l. a steel chain, value 5 s. a metal seal, value 4 d. and a metal bell, value 2 d. the property of Jane Cavenagh . June 21st .


On the 21st of last June, I took my watch from my side and laid it upon a little chest of drawers in the back bed-chamber, the room in which the prisoner and I lay. I went out for a pint of beer; when I returned I found my watch in the same place I had put it in; I sat down at the door of this bed-chamber in a front room; the prisoner went to bed a quarter of an hour before me; when I went to bed I missed my watch. I looked for it; she laughed. I said don't make a joke of it but let me have my watch. She laughed and said, d - n you and your watch; and she said it should be the dearest watch to me I ever saw. I have never seen my watch since. I took her up the next morning to Sir John Fielding's office, there she was discharged. The next time I saw her was in Clerkenwell prison; I went to see if she would own to the watch, and if it had been in pawn I would have released it. I asked her if she knew any thing of it; she said it was in a person's hands for a little money, and I should have it again when she came out of prison. She would not tell me where it was.

Prisoner. She charged another person with it? - I took all the three lodgers up, upon suspicion, because they had been in the place, but nobody could take it but the prisoner.

ANN SHAW sworn.

I went with Mrs. Cavenagh to Clerkenwell

prison to see the prisoner. The prisoner said the watch was neither sold nor yet pawned, but was left in a neighbour's hand for a little money.


I recommended the prisoner to Mrs. Cavenagh, for a lodging. Her box was left at my house while I was out, I afterwards saw the prisoner take the watch out of her box and wind it up. She said, by G - d the right owner shall never get it.

What watch was that? - A metal one.

Can you say whether that was the prosecutrix's watch or not? - I cannot.


I was present when Mrs. White was putting some things into the box, she found the watch in it; I knew it to be Mrs. Cavenagh's watch. The prisoner was at that time in Bridewell.

Do you know that to be the prisoner's box which you are speaking of? - Yes.

What is become of that watch? - The prisoner came after that and took the watch away; the constables did not see the watch when they searched the box. They searched the box for a gown and coat.

How long did you know the watch was there? - Mrs. White was putting some things of the prisoner's into the box, after the constables were gone, and found the watch.

Did she leave it there? - Yes.

What became of that box and the things afterwards? - The box is in Mrs. White's room now.

To White. What became of the watch you saw in the prisoner's box? - I left it in the box. The very day she came out of prison, being discharged from the other accusation, I saw her take the watch out. She was in prison for stealing a gown and petticoat.

Prisoner. That was a gown this woman gave me for taking it out of pawn.

To Langham. You knew this to be the prosecutrix's watch? - Yes.

You knew it at the time? - Yes.

How came you not to mention it to the prosecutrix? - I mentioned it to Mrs. Cavenagh that I thought it was her watch.

How soon after? - not above three or four days after. Mrs. Cavenagh knew her watch was in the box before the prisoner came out of prison; but she did not think she had a right to take it out of the box, nor did I.

You live in the same house with Mary White ? - I did then.


I went to the prisoner in Clerkenwell to see if she would own where the watch was, and Mrs. Cavenagh would release it if it was in pawn. She said she knew nothing about it, for Mr. White had got the watch, and that if Mrs. Cavenagh would go to the Crown and Cushion, she would find the watch in Mr. White's pocket that night.


I know nothing at all about it; I am as clear of it as the child unborn.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-3
VerdictNot Guilty

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563. ELISABETH PERKINS was indicted for stealing a silver watch, value 30 s. the property of Richard Clarke , September 10th .


I am a carpenter . Last Sunday was five weeks, I met the prisoner in the street. She took me to Lewkner's-lane . I had no money; I agreed to let her have my buckles, and I promised to fetch them in the morning, and give her three shillings. She took them and pledged them. I had not been in bed with her above ten minutes before she took my watch from under my head; I felt her hand under my head, and felt her take it; then she made an excuse to go out of the room for the chamber pot. I was clear she had my watch. Then I followed her and said you have got my watch.

Was she undressed? - Yes. She went out of the room without putting on her clothes. She began to swear at me and said she had not got it. I went back into the

room to look for the candle , and followed her up stairs. She went up into the attick story; there was a boy there in a cheque shirt. I heard the chain of my watch rattle in her hand after she had got it; and I had nothing about my breeches but my watch. I called the watchman; he came; we searched for the watch but it was never found. We took the prisoner to St. Giles's roundhouse.

You had been drinking I suppose by your picking up this woman? - Only very little.

Was you sober? - I was not sober, but sensible enough that she took my watch.

Do you know with certainty whether you had your watch after you got into the room with her? - Yes, I am clear of it because she had it in her hand in the room, and I took it out of her hand again; I let her have my buckles and not the watch.

You did not find your watch about the bed afterwards? - No, and we made all the search we could.

Had any other person been in the room till after you missed your watch? - No, and after she got to bed I heard the chain rattle in her hand.


He gave me the buckles; I went to bed with him; after he used his pleasure with me, in order to get his buckles back again, he charged me with stealing his watch. He had been with another girl and she had stolen all the money out of his pocket.

Prosecutor. I had no money for the whole evening; I had but seven pence when I went out in my pocket , and I spent that.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron EYRE .

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-4
VerdictGuilty > theft under 1s
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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564. HENRIETTA PETERS was indicted for stealing a piece of muslin , value 42 s. a muslin apron, value 2 s. a linen shift, value 5 s. a pair of cotton stockings, value 2 s. a cotton handkerchief, value 2 s. another pair of cotton stockings, value 2 s. a linen shift, value 5 s. and another linen apron, value 1 s. the property of John Thomas , October 7th .


I am the wife of John Thomas . My husband belongs to the sea ; we live in Fitzroy-street . I missed the things, mentioned in the indictment, on the 7th of October. I had seen them, about a week before that, in the chest of drawers in the two-pair-of-stairs room, where I lay. The prisoner was my servant three weeks; when she had been with me two days, I missed one shift , a pair of cotton stockings, and an apron; about a fortnight after that I missed a piece of muslin, a shift, a pair of cotton stockings, a muslin apron, and an handkerchief; I suspected the servant who was gone away; I went down into the kitchen and saw the window had been left open; having heard of thieves coming down chimnies I looked up, and in the flue of the copper I found my shift, the mark was picked out of it, but I knew it to be my own work. I went into the back kitchen to see if all was fast; I saw a string under the dresser; I laid hold of it, and pulled a cloth apron of mine out of the fish-kettle. I observed the prisoner had on a pair of my stockings; I watched her taking them off, and took them from the side of the bed, the instant she took them off. There was my name on them; she begged my pardon, and said she was ashamed of what she had done; she confessed taking my linen out of the clothes bag; and said it was through distress she had done it.

Did you say it would be better for her to confess? - No I said nothing to her before she owned it. She said she must lie in the street if I turned her out; and begged I would let her stay. I had compassion on her, and consented for her to stay till she had cleaned the house. On Saturday I looked up every thing. On the Friday night I had some company playing at cards; she went up stairs and picked the lock, and took the muslin and some other things; I have never found them since.


I am a constable. This gentlewoman sent after me to come to her house, that the maid had robbed her; I went; she took me up into the two-pair-of-stairs room , and shewed me the drawer open, and said she

had lost some muslin. I went down to the prisoner, and took her into custody.


The Saturday she called to me and told me she had lost a piece of muslin, and that she would have the muslin or my life. I said I never saw the muslin. She said she would not value hanging me, but she would have the muslin, and sent for the constable and had me taken up . The things laid to my charge I never saw. I was searched and nothing was found upon me.

GUILTY of stealing the goods to the value of 10 d. W . and Imp. 3 months .

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-5
VerdictNot Guilty

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565. JOHN TATE was indicted for stealing a linen handkerchief, value 18 d. the property of Josiah Widnell , privily, form the person of the said Josiah , September 18th .


Last Friday se'nnight as Mr. Jones and I were returning from the city, about six in the evening, a man stopped me opposite Shoe-lane and asked me if I had lost my handkerchief? I felt in my pocket and said I had. I knew I had very lately before made use of it. He shewed me a handkerchief, and said I fancy this is it. I immediately knew it to be my own.

Did you see or feel the person take it? - Not in the least. I went back with the gentleman, who was Mr. Barrett, and secured the prisoner. I had bought a piece of handkerchiefs two or three days before; this was one of the handkerchiefs. (The handkerchief was produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutor.) There was no mark upon it.

You undertake to swear positively to the handkerchief? - I do.


I saw the prisoner pick Mr. Widnell's pocket. I was looking in at a window at some stockings on Holbourn-bridge when I first took notice of him; they made an attempt upon me first. Mr. Widnell passed by me, and the prisoner and another person went after him; I followed them. Just at the top of the hill the prisoner got close to Mr. Widnell, and as he hopped close to him, he put his hand into his pocket and drew out the handkerchief; when he saw me put out my hand to lay hold of him, he dropped it, and said, it is not me. I took up the handkerchief and went after Mr. Widnell, and we went after the prisoner and laid hold of him.

Prosecutor. We first secured the other, he was a lusty fellow. As we came down the hill we saw the prisoner; Barrett said that is the fellow that picked your pocket, and I laid hold of him. He would give no name. The next morning he went down on his knees, and begged forgiveness.

To Barrett. How came you to take the other boy first? - I did not take the other first, I saw him and bid the prosecutor take care of him while I went for a constable. I pointed him out as the companion of the prisoner, I then took the prisoner.


I know nothing about the handkerchief.

To Barrett. How came the prisoner when you took the other boy not to run away? - He had made his escape; I saw him standing by Field-lane with some girls. I took him about a quarter of an hour after.

That was near the place where this had happened? - Yes, within thirty yards of it.

He had seen you take his companion? - No, I believe not.

Did not you take him immediately? - No, I suppose I ran about twenty yards with the handkerchief after Mr. Widnell. His companion was somewhere about Field-lane. I said this is one of them, and laid hold of him.

For the Prisoner.

JOHN TATE sworn.

I am the father of the prisoner, he is turned of fourteen; he closes shoes for me; he is very diligent in his work. I sent him for some thing that I wanted. I never knew any harm of him before.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-6
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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566. MARY SMITH was indicted for stealing a silver pap-spoon, value 7 s. the property of William Key , October 2d.

MARY KEY sworn.

On the 2d of this month I lost a silver pap-spoon; I was feeding my child with it, about half an hour before I lost it; the prisoner and another woman came into my shop and asked the price of a show-doll? I said, that was not to be sold, but I would shew them some others; they did not give me opportunity to shew them any others, but asked me to go backwards? I introduced them into my parlour. I went in with them; the other woman was taken ill and asked me to let her sit down? I let her sit down in the arm chair. I did not like continuing in the parlour myself, as I had left nobody in the shop, so I called a lodger; they asked me to bring them some dolls into the parlour. I did not choose to do that, as I did not like their looks. The lodger came down immediately. I only went to the stair foot just without the parlour; I had the sight of the parlour and shop all the time in my eye while I stood there, which was till she came down; then we all four went directly into the shop, and Mary Smith asked the price of the rest of the dolls. I shewed her a large doll at four shillings. She offered me three shillings. I told her she must give me three shillings and nine pence; she said she would not, she would give me three shillings and sixpence, and I agreed to let her have it. She gave me sixpence earnest, and agreed to call for it in a quarter of an hour; then they went away; after they were gone about half an hour the child cried. I went to feed it and missed the pap-spoon. I was informed the same evening that the two women were taken up in Charterhouse-street. I went to the constable's and saw my spoon. I never saw them again till I saw them before the justice.


I am a constable. On the 2d of this month I was sent for to Mr. Boxhall's, in Charter-House-street; the prisoner was there. Mr. Boxhall desired I would search her. I did, and found a pap-spoon in her pocket; it has been in my possession ever since.

(The spoon was produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutrix.)


I met a person in Aldersgate-street who asked me to go and drink; we went and had a bottle of wine. He said he had no money about him, but if I would please to accept of this spoon he would give it me; he did give it to me.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Whipping. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-7
VerdictGuilty > theft under 5s
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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567. WILLIAM JENKINS was indicted for stealing a piece of linen cloth containing twenty-five yards, value 25 s. the property of Edward Newson , privily in the shop of the said Edward , September 28th .

MARY LAMB sworn.

I am servant to Mr. Newson, who keeps a clothes-shop . On the 28th of September, between eight and nine in the morning, the prisoner came in and enquired for one Mr. Feereer, who keeps such a shop as our's a few doors off; I directed him. He went off the step of the door; I turned my back towards the shop door and went into the kitchen, which is adjoining to the shop; when I returned into the shop, a few minutes after, I saw the prisoner going out of the shop with a piece of cloth under his arm. I followed him crying

"stop thief!" and Richard Bubb stopped him. I never lost sight of him till he was stopped; the piece of cloth was brought back with the prisoner.

( John Edwards , the constable, produced the cloth.)


I heard Mr. Newson's servant cry stop thief. I saw the prisoner running, and I pursued him; when I was within a few yards of him he dropped a piece of cloth from under his arm, and I picked it up. I catched him by the collar and brought him and the cloth back to Mr. Newson's shop.

(The cloth was produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutor.)


There was a cry of stop thief; there were

people running; a man stopped me. I am innocent.

What is the value of that piece of cloth? - Twenty-shillings.

(The prisoner called one witness who gave him a good character.)

GUILTY of stealing the goods to the value of 4 s. 6 d.

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Whipping. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

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Reference Numbert17801018-8

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568, 569. RICHARD BROWN and JAMES JOHNSON were indicted for stealing two geldings of the value of 40 l. the property of James Crow , August 11th .


I am a farmer . I live in the parish of Edinford, in Bedfordshire. I lost two geldings from a close I rent, called Cross Hall . On the 2d of August, after we had done work, we turned them into this close. I saw them that evening; the next morning I sent my lad at four o'clock to fetch them; they were put in the close over night; my boy came and told me that they were gone. On the 11th of August my son came up to town, being acquainted by a letter from somebody in town that the horses were found, and he brought the horses home with him; they were both geldings; one was six or seven years old, the other about four.

How long have you had them? - I have had one of them about five years, the other about three years.

How were they marked; - That I had five years was black; it had three white heels, and a bald face, the other was a black horse, four white heels, and a bald face.

Can you undertake to say the horses your son brought home were the same you lost? - The very same.


I came to London in consequence of a letter written by Francis Waring ; he took me to the stables where the horses were; they were the two geldings my father lost; they were delivered up to me.


Just before last session an horse dealer in Long-lane, whose name is King, came to Sir John Fielding's office and gave an account of these two geldings; they had been advertised at ten guineas reward. He said they had been offered for sale to him. I went with other officers to, I think it is, the Black Horse in Aldersgate-street. I went down the yard. I asked which stables the horses were in which were for sale; the stables were shewn me; there was a padlock upon the door. The horse-dealer took two men with him to go after Johnson; the prisoner Johnson's wife was in the yard. I asked where her husband was? She said she did not know rightly. I went with her to her lodgings; then she said her husband was in company with one Richard Brown ; she gave me directions where to find Brown; as I was coming down, Brown came to the door; she said that was Brown. I took him into custody; I took him to the yard where the horses were; when I came into the yard with Brown, the officers were coming from the stable with Johnson. They said they were not the horses mentioned in the hand-bill; they thought they did not answer the description. I asked the two prisoners where they bought the horses which were in the stable? They said in Suffolk of a man who came out of the farther side of Norfolk. Mr. Crow came into the yard; I had never seen him before to my knowledge; he went into the stable and said they were his horses. I took the prisoners immediately to the office in Bow-street.

You said there was a padlock upon the stable door when you first went there? - Yes; when I went away with Johnson's wife, but I found it open when I came back again.

What colour were the horses which were there? - Black.


On the 11th of August I saw Johnson. I asked him what he would have for the couple of black horses? He said forty pounds; he was in Smithfield. I took him into custody; as I was taking him towards Long-lane another officer came up to me and bid me search Johnson for the keys; I was going to search upon which he immediately gave me the key and the padlock of that stable. I opened the stable; he took out one of the black horses himself.

What did he bring him out for? - To look at him, the stable was dark.

At this time Brown was not there? - No; I know nothing about Brown.


I saw Johnson and Brown on Tuesday night at the Sun-Dial in Goswell-street, at the corner of Swan-alley; they were riding both the horses. I went the next morning to look after the four-year-old horse; I booked him in Mr. Johnson's name. Mr. Brown gave me an order to book him at sixteen guineas; at Beaver's repository he wanted to book him at twenty pounds; I said he was not worth above sixteen pounds. I took him to the Repository.

Was he sold there? - No. I had seen the hand-bill, so I sent a letter into the country to Mr. Crow; he came to London, and when he saw the horses he swore to them.

How came the horses afterwards to the Black Horse? - They were going to the stable when I first saw them; they were put up that night at the Black Horse.

How long after that was it before Crow came up? - About three or four days.

Where do you live? - In Portpool-lane.

How came you in Goswell-street where these horses were? - I came there to get myself fuddled; I was there smoaking my pipe.

How came you to take these horses to the Repository? - By Johnson's and Brown's orders.

Did you know them before? - I have known them a good while.

To Richard Crow . At whose house did you find the horses? - I cannot tell; this witness shewed me the horses.

He sent you a letter? - Yes.

Brown. Did I deliver you this horse or not? - Yes, and Waring set a price on it.

Who did you receive the key from? - Waring. Mr. Johnson held the key to me out at the window, and I went and had half a pint of ale.


I never gave him the key, nor delivered any horse to him. I am a shoe-maker in Bell-yard, Temple-bar.

For Brown.


I am a shoe-maker in Bell-yard. I have known Brown about ten months; I never knew any thing bad of him during that time; he bears a good character; he worked at his business.

Did he work for you? - No, for another man.

Are you a master shoe-maker? - Yes.


I bought the horses at Rumford at the Windmill, and paid for them; they were delivered to Richard Brown ; he brought them home to Aldersgate-street. I did not come home till the next day; I slept at Biggleswade the night that the horses were lost. Mr. Crow knows it.

To Richard Crow . What do you know of that? - I know nothing of the man.

To Prothero. Where did you say they said they bought the horses? - When they came out, and said these horses did not answer the description in the bill, I asked both the prisoners together where they bought the horses? They said in Suffolk of a man who came out of the farther side of Norfolk.

For Johnson.


I am a butcher in Aldersgate-street. I have known the prisoner about a twelvemonth; he was a bricklayer by trade, but has dealt in horses ever since I knew him; he has been a very honest man ever since I have known him.


I have known him about a twelvemonth. I never heard any stain upon his character till this time. I am a publican and live at the Black Horse in Barbican.

That is not the house where the horses were, is it? - No.


I am a smith in Barbican. I have known Johnson a twelvemonth; he bears a very

honest character. I never heard any one man say a dishonestly word of him.


I have known Johnson seven years. I have always known him to be a very honest man.

BOTH GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron EYRE .

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-9
VerdictGuilty > theft under 1s
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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570. ELEANOR ANSLOW was indicted for stealing four pair of worsted stockings, value 8 s. the property of Joseph Walker , privily and secretly in the shop of the said Joseph , October 16th .


I am servant to Joseph Walker , who keeps two shops , one for hosiery, the other for hats. There is a door between the two shops. On last Monday morning, about ten o'clock, while I was in the hat shop finishing an hat, I looked in and saw a boy going out of the shop, and the prisoner following him. I went out after her, and saw the prisoner in the foot-path. I asked what she wanted; she said a pair of silk stockings. I said, come in, my dear, I will serve you; just as I said so two pair of stockings fell from her on the footpath. I seized her by the hand, took up the two pair of stockings, and brought her into the shop, and then another pair of stockings fell from her. I called the maid and Mrs. Walker into the shop, and told them what had happened, and desired them to search her; the maid would not, and Mrs. Walker was very poorly, and was not able. I desired her to sit down in the chair, and then she dropped another pair of stockings. When Mr. Walker came in we got a constable, and under the chair where she sat we found two other pair of stockinge.

Whose property are they? - Mr. Walker's, I believe; there are no marks on them. The prisoner cried, went down on her knees, and begged pardon.

Did you make her any promises? - No; nor did I make use of any threats.

Were any stockings missing? - There was a parcel.


I never was inside the shop till he took me; going by I saw a man and woman. I stopped to see what was the matter, and that man took and dragged me into the shop.

GUILTY of stealing the goods to the value of 10 d.

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

[Whipping. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-10
VerdictNot Guilty

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571. JAMES NEWELL was indicted for that he, in the King's highway, in and upon Ann Kearney , widow , feloniously did make an assault, putting her in corporal fear and danger of her life, and stealing from her person a pair of silver shoe-buckles, value 20 s. 2 guineas, and 18 s. in monies numbered, the property of the said Ann Kearney , widow , Sept. 21st .


I live in Upper Berkeley-Street, Grosvenor-Square . I am a servant out of place. I was robbed about three weeks ago, between eight and nine o'clock, as I was going home to my lodging from Mary-le-bonne in a coach. I had been in John Woodall 's house, and left three guineas with him to keep for me till I went away; when I went out he gave me two guineas and 18 s. in silver, and sent his child for a coach for me. The prisoner was the coachman ; he stopped me in one of the squares, and came into the coach and ill used me, so that he left my flesh black and blue, and he robbed me of two guineas, 18 s. and my silver buckles.

Describe what he did? - He used me very indecent, dragged me by my arms; he mauled me in the coach and left my flesh all black.

What sort of rudeness; did he want to take indecent liberties with you? - He did. I had the money when I went into the coach; when I came out I told the people where I lived, that I had been ill used, and robbed of two guineas, 18 s. and my buckles.

How far was you gone before he did this? - Not above a quarter of a mile; he kept me three hours with him before he took me home.

He drove you home at last? - Yes; he did not bring me to the house, but brought me to the yard, and sent me home with a woman, a friend of his.

When you got out of the coach had you your buckles? - I had not.

Had you your money? - I had not; he insisted on my paying 3 s. for the coach. I am friendless; he sent the buckles by some person, and throwed them into the area.

Was the money in a purse or loose in your pocket? - The two guineas were rolled up in a piece of paper, between the lining of my stays and the stays, and the silver was loose in my pocket.

When did you first know that you had lost your buckles and money? - In the coach. I told him if he took my buckles my name was on them, and he would suffer for it. I did not know his face.

Did you miss your money while you was in the coach? - No, not till after I got out of the coach.

Did the coach put up at the place where he set you down? - It belongs to Mary-le-bonne. Woodall got the coach for me.

What became of the coach when you got out? - It stood there till twelve o'clock; he was drinking with a smith's wife.

What time did you get home? - Between eight and nine.

You had been at Mr. Woodall's? - Yes.

You was ill in the coach? - Yes.

What was the matter, had you drank any thing that did not agree with you? - Indeed I had, with this Woodall and his wife.

What was it? - I do not know; I believe it was not very good.

Had it got into your head? - I believe it had.

You do not know what passed, but you observed him take the buckles? - I observed a person take my buckles, and bid him not rob me.

A person, did you know who that person was? - There is a witness saw him come into the coach and stay half an hour.

Did you know it was the coachman at the time? - There was nobody else to do it; he drove me into a square and dallied about. I knew him when I came home that it was the same person.

Who lives in the house with you? - Three men and their wives. The men were not at hom e; Mrs. Lockwood was.

Did their husbands come home that night? - Yes, one came home and lay with his wife who had not lain with her sixteen or eighteen years before.

Is there any watchman in that quarter? - I believe there is.

When you was robbed, and he stayed so long there with his coach, how came you not to have him taken up? - This Mrs. Lockwood I suppose had not the presence of mind to call a watchman.

When did you take him up? - Two days after.

When were the buckles thrown in the area? - Two days after.

Cross Examination.

You was at Mr. Woodall's in the morning? - Yes.

What time did you leave Woodall's? - About five o'clock.

Woodall keeps a publick-house? - Yes.

How long have you been a widow? - About two years.

How long have you been at service? - I have not been at service yet, my husband could support me without going to service.

How long have you known Woodall? - I never saw him till I saw him the night before.

How came you to know him the night before? - I may say I had been led astray out of my way; I asked a gentleman's servant the way, and he took me to this Woodall's house,

Was that Bob Drury ? - No.

Do you know Bob Drury ? - I never saw him till I saw him at Mr. Woodall's house.

Had you drank any thing in the morning that had disagreed you? - I believe I drank with Mr. Woodall's wife some capillaire and brandy.

Did you go out with Bob Drury to take a walk in the Fields! - Yes, I believe not above forty yards from the house.

Did not he see you into the coach? - He did not; only a servant, and Mr. Woodall, and his daughter.

How was the servant dressed? - He had a livery on.

What was the colour of his coat? - I cannot tell, I was not so exact to observe it.

What colour was Bob Drury 's coat? - It was a jacket he wore.

What colour? - A kind of ticking.

A whitish colour? - Yes.

Do you know what is become of Bob Drury ? - I do not know, I suppose he is in London. I have not seen him since.

A servant attended you to the coach? - Along with Woodall.

Who attended you to the door when the coachman was at his horses' heads? - I cannot say.

Was not you very much disguised in liquor though you had drank but little? - I had my senses very well.

Was not you in liquor? - I was sick.

Was not you disguised in the morning? - No, I was not.

What time of the day was you disguised? - By about twelve or one o'clock or rather later.

At what time of night did you go away from Woodall's house? - A little before five in the afternoon.

You was set down at twelve? - No, between the hours of eight and nine.

Had not you drank rather freely while you staid at Woodall's house? - No, I did not, it made me sick.

Was you not disguised before dinner? - Very little.

What could induce you to stay so long in this publick-house which you had never been in till the day before? - I was sick and did not choose to go into the street while I was sick.

Who took you to this house? - I went myself.

Have not you declared that either the publican, or somebody he sent after you robbed you? - I could not do that, the publican gave me the money when I got into the coach.

I ask you, have you never said the publican, or somebody he sent after you, robbed you? - No. When I went into the fields with the butcher I lost my silver, I said so, but Woodall had my three guineas.

Have not you declared that you applied to the justice against Bob Drury charging him with this robbery? - No. I am told he is gone to Bath , I would take him up if I knew where he was, because I lost my money.

Did not he go to the coach with you while the coachman was at the head of his horses , and take liberties with you? - No man attended me to the coach, nor was with me except the coachman.

Did no man take liberties with you while the coachman was at the head of his horses? - No man in the world.

Have not you declared that you did not know how you lost your money? - I lost my money in the coach.

Have not you declared that you did not know how you lost your money? - I have declared I did not know who took my money, but I did detect the man taking my buckles; but the person who took my buckles must take my money.

Where do you lodge? - In Upper Berkeley-street.

You say after he dallied you about the square, he carried you to an house where you drank liquor? - I said the coachman and Mary King stopped and drank together.

How far was you set down from your lodgings? - I do not know, I am a stranger to the place, the woman shewed me to my lodging.

The coachman insisted on your paying him three shillings , though you had been robbed of all your money? - Yes.

Where was the coach put up; how far from your lodging? - I did not walk for I was not very well, and had no buckles.

Where was it Mrs. King and the coachman drank together? - The coachman and that woman sat drinking together at the next door to where I lodged till twelve o'clock at night, as I was informed.

Have you never said you went to a justice for a warrant against Bob Drury ? - I said I would make him pay me the money if I could meet with him.


I keep the Bedford Arms , South-street, Manchester-square. I never saw the prosecutrix before that day.

Do you remember her coming to your house? - I do. She came much about eleven o'clock with this Drury; I believe they drank two glasses of gin, and a glass of capillaire.

Two glasses of gin? - I am not very sure whether one or two, she had got three guineas in her pocket. My wife perceived she was a little in liquor, and said, young woman, you had better give me your money and sit down in the parlour and have a little sleep. For it was a shame for a woman to go out in the condition she was in. She went and slept about four hours, I believe, till about five o'clock. My wife desired her to go out then as we had company coming into that room. I gave her her money and bid her make the best of her way. She was sick and was to give one shilling for cleaning the room. I gave her in change two guineas and eighteen shillings.

Was Drury with her? - No, he went away when she went into that room.

Who went to the coach with her? - My daughter, I, and a gentleman's servant; Mr. Long's servant.

Who was the coachman? - I do not know the man; I did not know him when I saw him at the office. She came in the morning and asked me if I had got her money. I said no; and I was glad I had substantial witnesses that I gave her her money. Then she said if you have not got it, somebody has robbed me.


Do you know any thing of this woman being robbed? - I saw the coachman drive opposite to my house and then under the gateway. Afterwards a woman brought this woman to my house about eight o'clock. The coachman came off the box, went under the gateway, and left his coach; that was about seven o'clock. She was rather in liquor.

ANN OWEN sworn.

I saw the coachman when he came out of the Mews with the coach about ten at night. He denied the coach, but the number was taken before. This woman asked where he took her up? He said upon the stand.


I saw the coach come across the square and drive down into the Mews.

Who drove the coach? - I do not know, I live at Mr. Lockwood's.

What time did Mrs. Kearney come home? - I do not know, I was not within; my husband sent for me.

Prisoner. I know nothing of it; I leave my defence to my counsel.

Counsel to Theobald. Did the prosecutrix say any thing to you whether she could or not tell who had robbed her? - She said the next morning, she did not know who had robbed her. I did not see her that night.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron EYRE .

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-11

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570. RICHARD HOPGOOD otherwise HAPGOOD was indicted for stealing two cloth coats, value 40 s. two cloth waistcoats, value 15 s. a pair of silk breeches , value 40 s. a cloth great coat, value 20 s. two yards of Manchester velvet , value 10 s. four linen towels, value 3 s. a linen tablecloth , value 1 s. a pair of silk stockings, value 8 s. two pair of men's leather shoes, value 5 s. a case knife with a silver handle, value 2 s. a case fork with a silver handle , value 1 s. the property of Patience Thomas Adams , Esq . in the dwelling-house of the said Patience Thomas Adams , September 9th .


My house is in Hatton-street . I was out of town in September. The prisoner came into my service in 1776, and staid till the June following, then he left my service. The things mentioned in the indictment, were kept in a chest in a dark room, where the prisoner when he was my servant usually slept.


I had the care of Mr. Adams's house in Hatton-street. The prisoner came to the house, I think it was on the 9th of September last. I told him I had nothing to ask

him to eat, but if he would come and take a bit of dinner at such a time he was welcome, which he did. He went afterwards to sleep on the end of the dresser. I said he seemed very sleepy, he might go if he would and lie down on the bed where he used to lie; that was in a dark closet where the chest with the clothes was kept. After that he came down again and went into the garden; I happened to turn round. He brought in a coat upon his arm, which he had laid down with his hat, when he came in; that coat was gone and missing; that coat and his hat. I went up stairs.

How long might he stay in this dark room? - I believe it might be about three hours.

Did he go away? - Yes, without saying any thing. I saw him come out of the garden; I thought he was gone into the fore kitchen. Missing the coat and hat I went to see; he was not there; and when I went up stairs he was gone. I went into the dark room and found the chest open, and there was nothing left in it.

Did you miss any thing else? - Yes, some tablecloths.

Do you know whether the chest was locked or open? - It seldom was locked; I had not opened it all the summer.

Had not other people during the course of the summer been in the house besides the prisoner? - Yes, there was a char-woman at that very time cleaning down the house.

Of course she had occasion to go up stairs and into all parts of the house? - She had. The woman was not in that place to take any thing.

How do you know that; was she never out of your sight? - Yes, she was.

Was this room locked? - No.

Then when she was out of your sight she might go into this place as well as any where else, how long did she continue in the house? - A long while after he was gone.

Did she come the next day? - No.

Did you see her go away? - Yes.

Did you observe her carry any thing away with her? - She did not.

Did she go out while the prisoner was there? - No, only for a pot of beer.

Where is this room? - Up stairs from the kitchen on the ground floor. When he went into the garden he came down and went through the kitchen; when he came in he went up stairs again.

Did you say any thing to this woman about missing any thing? - I did not; I did not know what was gone. I said to her, this chest is open, have you been in here? She said she had not.

To Mr. Adams. How long was you from home? - About three weeks or a month.

To Smith. Your master was from home three weeks or a month? - Yes.

During that time had not other persons been in the house with you? - Yes; to drink tea with me.

And went freely about the house? - No, they never did.


I keep the Coach and Horses in Leather-lane. The prisoner came to me on the 13th of September and left a knife and fork with me; he told me they were his own; I never saw him before that time; he came in between four and five o'clock in the morning; he was playing with a girl in the tap-room, and for fear he should cut himself he gave them me to take care of till he went away, and then he gave me his hat to take care of till he went away; while I went down into the cellar to draw some beer he went into the bar and took the hat and went away. I had put the knife and fork in a drawer, he could not get at them; he left them for the reckoning.

How was he dressed? - In an orange-coloured coat and waistcoat, and had on a pair of black breeches and a large horseman's coat.

The Rev. Mr. BENJAMIN BARROW sworn.

You, for some reason, apprehended this man? - Yes, and delivered him to the care of the constable. I found on him an orange-coloured coat and waistcoat, an old table cloth, an iron-grey coat and waistcoat, and a pair of black Florentine silk breeches; they were taken from his possession by order of the justice at Staines. I apprehended him at Colnebrooke.


I am a constable of Colnebrook. I took

the prisoner and this bundle of things to the justice; they were left with William Lloyd , another constable , in Middlesex.

Are they the same things? - Yes, they are. I saw them examined before, and they are all the same things.

How long ago is it? - A month last Wednesday.

Mr. Barrow. The things appear to me to be the same; (produces a coat, three waistcoats , two handkerchiefs, a neckcloth, a tablecloth, and a pair of studds.)


I have a coat here which the prisoner had on his back at Clerkenwell (producing it.)


I am servant to the keeper of Clerkenwell. prison. I have a pair of breeches and waistcoat I took from the prisoner; he had them all on when he was committed to our custody.


I am a tailor and work for Mr. Adams. This orange-coloured coat, waistcoat, and black silk breeches , I made for Mr. Adams; the others I believe to be his property, but I only put buttons upon them.

Is there any thing you can know the breeches by? - Yes; I covered the waistband with shalloon over the button holes.

Mr. Adams. I believe them to be mine; I have not a shadow of doubt but they are the clothes.


I am servant to Mr. Adams. I have the care of Mr. Adams's plate.

Do you remember that silver handled knife and fork? - Yes, I believe them to be my master's; there is an A upon them; there is a knife and fork missing out of the case. I know these clothes to be my master's; they were left in the chest at that time; I believe the table-cloth to be my master's; it is marked on the corner with an A.

To the prosecutor. Can you form any judgement of the value of the things found? - I believe they are worth five guineas at the lowest valuation; the breeches had never been worn; the tailor charged two pounds, three shillings for them.

- STANTON sworn.

A great coat was left with me by the prisoner; he desired the coachman of the Bath Diligence to call for it, and delivered it to him.

Was that after he was taken up? - Yes.

To Buntz. What may these clothes be worth? - I do not apprehend they are so good now as they were when in Mr. Adams's possession.

What may they be worth now? - I suppose they are worth six or seven pounds.


I have nothing to say at all; I have no witnesses.

GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-12
VerdictNot Guilty

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571. MARY the wife of Timothy MURPHY was indicted for stealing a silk purse, value 2 d. and a guinea and four shillings in monies, numbered, the property of Patrick Lorder , from the person of Sophia Lorder , October 9th .


I am the wife of Patrick Lorder ; we keep a chandler's shop ; my husband and I were invited to a house-warming last Monday se'nnight , at the Green Dragon; my husband shut the shop up before ten o'clock, and we went together with two or three of our lodgers; we went too late for supper; there was a fidler in the room; when my husband had gathered the reckoning and we were going away I sat down in the bar , and Mrs. Malone sat down by me. Mrs. Malone asked my husband to lend her two shillings? He sent her to me, and I pulled out my purse and gave it to her, that was between twelve and one o'clock. I believe I had in my purse a guinea in gold and four shillings in silver, besides the two shillings I gave Mrs. Malone; when I had given her the two shillings I tied up my purse and put it into my pocket; there was a chair at my back; I sat down in it. Mrs. Malone carried the two shillings to her husband and returned to me. I said I was very indifferent, and wished I was at

home. She said, I had better have some peppermint. I asked for the prisoner Mrs. Murphy who was in company.

Was she present when you pulled out your purse? - I cannot say; she was present when I pulled it out in the parlour to give my husband two shillings to pay the reckoning.

You say you was a little indifferent , was you at all in liquor? - No. I said I wished Mrs. Murphy would go into the parlour to tell my husband I wanted to go home. She said here I am my dear; Mrs. Malone and Murphy both asked for some drops, and Mrs. Malone went to get a glass of water, and Mrs. Murphy put her hand in my pocket to feel, as I thought, for a smelling bottle; after I had drank a little water I fainted away. I was not in that situation above three minutes by the account of the company. Mrs. Murphy went into the parlour to call my husband , and did not come in again; the bar was very small; there cannot above three persons stand in it; when I came to myself my husband came to me and asked me to go into the other room, and I did. I was very cold; my husband ordered some hot punch for me to have some before I went home. He said, as he called for the liquor, it was right we should pay for it. I felt in my pocket for my purse and missed it; some of the people went to look in the bar for it but could not find it. I knew Mrs. Murphy's hand had been in my pocket, but I did not think she could do such a thing; I had not the impudence to charge her with it; in about a minute after the bar had been searched she asked for one George a young man, who was in company with us, and went out. I then went and looked in the bar myself and found the purse dropped in the corner of the bar. I catched it up in hopes the money was in it, but found it empty; when I returned into the room she was in the room offering to lend my husband a shilling to pay for the liquor, telling him not to make any more fuss about it. I went up to her and said Mrs. Murphy you are the woman which took my purse out of my pocket. She looked as red as scarlet, and said, me! Mrs. Lorder, and down she sat; then Mrs. Malone and the other woman began to pull off their things to be searched. Mrs. Murphy untied her apron and pretended to unlace her stays, but she was not searched.

Did you see her hand when it came out of your pocket? - No. I felt it in my pocket; it could be no-body's but her's; when I felt it it rather roused me; she stood by me; I saw her hand in my pocket.


I was at this house-warming. I was by Mrs. Lorder when she was taken with a fainting fit; she looked up to me and said, I am very sick; she was sitting in a two-armed chair in the bar.

When she gave you the 2 s. did you observe what she did with the purse? - No; I saw her doing it up; I did not stop to see what she did with it; I asked her if she would have a glass of peppermint; she said no; she said where is Mrs. Murphy; she was behind me, and said here I am; she said she wished she would call her husband; I said stay a little, she will be better presently, it is a pity to disturb Mr. Lorden; she said to Mrs. Lorden here I am, my dear, and went and laid hold of her hand; Mrs. Lorden laid her head against her breast; I asked her to have a drop of water, and took a bason down off the shelf , during which time she said the prisoner put her hand into her pocket; I did not see it. When the purse was missed the landlord, the landlady, and a young man, and I, went and searched the bar; the prisoner was then gone out; she went out immediately on Mrs. Lorden saying she missed her purse; we looked round the bar, but could see nothing of it; the prisoner came back into the room; I said there was nobody but she and the landlady in the bar, and insisted on having her searched.

Was that before or after Mrs. Lorden found the purse? - Before.

Was the prisoner searched? - No, by nobody but herself. I insisted upon Mrs. Lorden searching me. After this Mrs. Murphy went out, asking for George; while she was gone out Mrs. Lorden said, do not let us be too positive, let us go and have another look in the bar. I went with

her; she picked up the purse just as she went in on the right hand.

Had you looked before in the place where she found it? - Yes, I am very clear I had, and that then it was not there.

How long was this after the prisoner Murphy went out to look for George? - Not above eight or nine minutes.

Was not the landlady in the bar then? - Not constantly in the bar, she was backwards and forwards.


Mrs. Lorden brought me a warrant against the prisoner. I went to a publick-house , and saw her drinking; she went with me to her lodgings; she put her hand under her pillow, took out a white rag, and put it in her pocket; when she came to the justice's the justice asked her how much money she had in her pocket; she pulled out the rag, with five guineas in it; she said she knew nothing of the charge; the justice delivered a guinea and 4 s. to me, which was what Mrs. Lorden said she had lost.


I know nothing of it. I was at this house-warming when the purse was missed; the women pulled off their things; she searched me, made me pull off my stays; she pulled my hat off, and searched in my mouth. I do not know why she should charge me more than any body else with taking it. The constable has got three guineas of mine. They used me very crookedly.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-13
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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572. MARIA ANN DOON , spinster , was indicted for that she, on the 22d of September , between the hours of five and seven o'clock in the afternoon , the dwelling-house of Timothy Marshall did break and enter (the said Timothy Marshall and others of his family then being in the said dwelling-house) and stealing six silver tea-spoons , value 9 s. a pair of silver tea-tongs, value 2 s. a plain gold ring, value 5 s. a pair of stone sleeve-buttons set in silver, value 2 s. a silver stock-buckle, value 2 s. a silver seal , value 6 s. a man's linen shirt, value 4 s. a japanned snuffbox, value 12 d. a canvas bag , value 2 d. and 47 guineas, 6 half-guineas , a quarter-guinea, 4 half-crowns, 2 silver threepences , 21 pieces of foreign copper coin called doits, value 6 d. a piece of foreign copper coin called a liard, value an halfpenny , and 46 s. and 6 d. in monies numbered, the property of the said Timothy. And a linen handkerchief, value 18 d. the property of Samuel Smith . And a bank note of the value of 20 l. one other bank note of the value of 10 l. one other bank note of the value of 10 l. the money secured by the said notes being due and unsatisfied to the said Timothy Marshall , the proprietor thereof, in the dwelling-house of the said Timothy .


I live at West Drayton by Uxbridge . I was brought up a gardener. I now have a little farm and a garden. On Friday the 22d of September there was a sale of a farmer's stock in my neighbourhood. I went up stairs to see what money I could spare, as I had my rent and other things to pay. I looked over my money. I put my bank notes in a private drawer in my bureau which stood in my bed-chamber. I put forty-seven guineas and six half-guineas in a canvas bag, which I put in the drawer upon the bank-notes. I then told over two guineas worth of silver in shillings and sixpences; there was a half-guinea, and four half-crowns. I put all that into a common drawer which slides in by the side of the private drawer; they were likewise in a bag. I saw that my snuff-box and other things were all safe; that was at nine o'clock in the morning; then I went out among my plowmen and servants. I came home again a little after twelve o'clock, and between twelve and one I went out to Evans's auction. After the auction was over, seeing some farmers there who live at distant villages, I asked them to come home with me and eat and drink something, as we had not dined. We came to my house a little before five o'clock, and sat together in my kitchen till between eight and nine, when they went away. As soon as they were gone I went up to bed;

there is a closet by the side of my bed in which I put my clothes and some garden-seeds. I observed that a seed-box was removed out of its place; then I saw a hole through the ceiling in the closet which led up into the cock-loft. I went directly to my bureau; I found it broke open, and I missed all my money, the snuff-box, the spoons, the seal, and the other things. I called up my boy and my men, and we alarmed the town directly. I found the back-door of the barn was open. The way in which the fact had been committed was by getting into the barn, getting upon the barley in it, and so getting into the cock-lost, which communicates with the end of the barn; that cock-lost is over some stables; she must have crept along the cock-loft till she came over my chamber; the hole that was made in my chamber was large enough to admit a person to pass through it from the cock-lost. We searched, but could not find any person about. I rode that night to Hounslow and Slough; I did not get home till three o'clock; I went to bed for a short time; when I got up in the morning I came and laid an information at Sir John Fielding's office; then I went to the Bank and gave an account of the Banknotes I had lost; I could hear nothing of them. On Monday morning I came again to Sir John Fielding's office and to the Bank, but they had heard nothing of them; coming along Piccadily , between three and four o'clock in the afternoon, I accidentally met the prisoner along with a man opposite St. James's Church.

Did you know her before? - Yes; she had lived with me. I asked her where she had been? She said in the country. I asked her what country? She said Chester. I asked who the man was with her? She said her husband. I said come we will drink together; I wanted to see you, for I have been thinking about you. I asked her where she would go? She said to the Blackmoor's-head , behind St. James's Church; there was a chairman at the door; I put them in first, and begged him to get me a constable; when we went in I desired the landlady to let us have a back-room to ourselves, for we should want some victuals. I called for a pot of beer; the constable did not come; I went to the door to the chairman, he had not been for one; at last I persuaded him to go for one; when I went out the prisoner wanted to go out too; I followed her; I said she should not go out; she began to be very abusive; the chairman then brought in the constable; I gave him charge of the man and the prisoner; he said he would search them. She insisted I should not see her searched. I went out of the room; the constable searched her, and, as I afterwards learnt, he found fifteen guineas and some silver upon her, and likewise my snuff-box; the constable took her to Sir John Fielding 's; the man told me that they lodged at Walham Green at the White-Hart, one Knight's; we found there some doits which were mine; the constable found a printed bill in a bundle she had in her hand of a Mr. Macaulay, in the Borough; she had bought mercery goods of him; the constable and I went there. Mr. Macaulay said she had changed a twenty pounds Bank-note there; since that I have found another of them paid in at the Bank.

Did the prisoner ever work for you? - Yes.

Did she ever sleep in your house? - Yes, several months I believe.


I am a constable. I was sent for; I searched the prisoner on Monday the 25th of September, at Mr. Jones's, the Blackmoor's-head , in Jermyn-street, behind St. James's Church. I found upon her fifteen guineas, fifteen shillings and sixpence, some tea, a pair of scissars, a thimble, and a nutmeg-grater; the gold was in the nutmeg-grater, the silver was loose in her pocket; in looking over the tea and the articles again I found this bill of parcels of Mr. Macaulay's.

Prosecutor. This was my nutmeg-grater , but it was not lost at this time.


I am a mercer, and live in the Borough. I sold the goods, mentioned in this bill of parcels, to a woman, whom I believe to be the prisoner; I received a twenty pounds Bank-note in payment, and gave her change for it, and I believe she put the money, which arose from the change, into that nutmeg-grater.

Prosecutor. This is one of the notes which were lost out of my bureau. I took it on the Saturday before last.

Did you make any memorandum of the note before you lost it? - I did not take any written memorandum of it.

Upon your oath, before you lost it did you know the number of it? - I described the particulars of it to Mr. Macaulay before ever he showed it me.

To Macaulay. What day did you sell the goods? - On the 23d of September, which was Saturday.

(The note was read in court.)


Do you know the prisoner? - Yes. Mr. Macaulay sold the goods mentioned in that bill of parcels to the prisoner. I was standing by at the same time and took particular notice of her.


I am a pawnbroker. I have a gold ring and a pair of buckles; they were brought to me from New Prison by one Gosset, who is a messenger from New Prison. I do not know from whom they came.


I live at Walham-green. The prisoner gave to my child some doits, on Sunday morning the 24th of September. She said she had had them from a child. I delivered them to Morant.

( Moses Morant produces thirteen pieces, which he said he received from the last witness.)

Prosecutor. Here is a Flemish halfpenny amongst them, which has a mark upon the edge by which I know it. There are two of the doits have holes through them; I have had them years, and know them well; they were in a snuff-box with the gold-ring.

Morant. The prisoner was brought to the office on Monday the 25th of September. I searched her very closely; I found this snuffbox in her pocket; after some time she wanted a pinch of snuff and took it and put it into her pocket again. Mr. Marshall stood by; there was nothing said about the snuff-box; she took it away with her; after that the prosecutor relating that he had lost a snuff-box with a quantity of doits and farthings, Mr. Dowse said she had given such to his child, and mentioned the box. I said I had seen her have such a box as that and would go next morning to prison to see if she had it about her then. I went to the prison and took this box from her; the prosecutor described it and the motto upon it before I went.

Prosecutor. This is my box, I have had it many years; I had it in Wales; there is a goat's head on it; the motto is memento mori.

- HUMPETT sworn.

I belong to New Prison.

Have you a messenger there of the name of Gosset? - Yes.

Is he here? - No.

Do you know of any property that was found upon the prisoner? - She was delivered into my charge on the 25th of September; she said she had no money and asked me to lend her some to buy bread and cheese, and such things; she said she had something she could make money of and would pay me again; that it was in Clerkenwell where she had some clothes. I went with her to one Mr. Humphrey's in Clerkenwell Close; she demanded there the things as belonging to her; these are the goods (producing a great quantity of wearing apparel.)

Prosecutor. There is a shirt belonging to me, and an handkerchief which belongs to one Samuel Smith , a servant of mine; the rest are all new.


I am quite innocent of what is alledged to my charge. I have never been near the prosecutor's premisses for above twenty-two months; I bought the box for three pence halfpenny as a common snuff-box. I have had these doits sixteen years.

Prosecutor. I had twenty-one of them; there were not two of a sort.

Prisoner. I bought that shirt in order to make me some night caps, and gave one shilling for it; what I bought at Mr. Macaulay's I paid ready money for; I had no Bank-note; the money I had I partly worked for, and part was left me. I had twenty-five guineas left me by my mother.

(The Bank-note produced by Mr. Macaulay was signed O. Gething. Mr. Gething was sent for by the court.)

Mr. GETHING sworn.

What is your name? - Owen Gething .

You are one of the cashiers at the Bank? - I am.

Is that a Bank-note of your signing? - It is.

And your name is Owen not Oliver! - Owen.

You have no cashier of the name of Oliver Gething , have you? - None.

(The Bank note having been erroneously set forth in the indictment, the court directed the jury to lay the evidence relative to the Banknote entirely out of their consideration.)

GUILTY of stealing the goods, but not Guilty of breaking and entering the dwelling house in the day time .

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron EYRE .

[Whipping. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-14
VerdictNot Guilty

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573. ELIZABETH, the wife of Hill SKELTON , was indicted for stealing a silver watch, value 10 s. the property of John Hobbs , Oct. 16 .


The prisoner, whose husband is a sailor, and is at sea, drank tea with my wife; my wife came out, and left her by herself in the room; the watch was hanging by the mantle-piece; it was missed after she went away.

Have you seen the watch since? - I have seen a watch at Mr. Brodie's that is like mine, but I cannot swear positively to it.


I am a pawnbroker. I have known the prisoner and her husband exceeding well these five or six years; she brought me this watch, and said it was her brother's. She has always borne an exceeding good character.

(There being no other evidence against the prisoner, she was not put upon her defence.)


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-15
VerdictGuilty > theft under 1s; Not Guilty

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574. 575. JOHN HERNE and MARY HERNE were indicted for stealing a pair of linen sheets, value 10 s. a woollen blanket, value 2 s. a linen curtain, value 2 s. and a flat-iron, value 6 d. the property of John Lowe , the said goods being in a certain lodging-room, let by contract by the said John Lowe to the said John Herne , against the statute, &c. Sept. 22d.


I am wife of John Lowe ; the prisoner lodged in our house about a year and an half. On last Friday was a week I missed a pair of sheets and a blanket out of the lodgings; the prisoners went away the day before early in the morning, and never came home again; they had not had the sheets quite a month. On the Saturday I missed one of the bed-curtains, and a flat-iron. James Wadmore , a pawnbroker, brought the blankets and sheets to the office the day the prisoners were taken up which was Friday se'nnight. When John Herne was taken he did not deny pawning them, but denied knowing where they were pawned. A neighbour saw his wife pawn an apron the day before, and by that means I found out the pawnbroker.


I am a pawnbroker's servant in Great Litchfield-Street , Oxford-Market. I have a pair of sheets and a blanket; the blanket was pawned the 20th of May, one sheet the 8th of September, and the other the 22d of September, by Mary Herne in her own name. I have known her a great while, and knew where she lived. I have had similar things of her, but understood them to be her own property.

(They were produced in Court, and deposed to by the prosecutrix.)

To the Prosecutrix. What is the value of them? - Ten shillings; the curtain and flat-iron have never been found.


It was through distress it was done. I have two children. I intended to take them out. I had not left the lodging.

( Mary Herne was not put on her defence.)

JOHN HERNE GUILTY of stealing the goods to the value of 10 d. Imprisoned three months .


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-16
VerdictNot Guilty

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576. 577. MARY FLINN and JANE LAWSON were indicted for stealing a pair of silver shoe-buckles, value 10 s. and a silk handkerchief, value 2 s. the property of John Lineker , Sept. 24th .


I am a cooper . I was just come from Liverpool; while I stopped to make water on Salt-Petre Bank the two prisoners pulled me into a house where they lived. I was a little in liquor. I sat down and fell asleep; when I waked my buckles and handkerchief were gone. I took the prisoners up the day following; I knew them very well; I had seen them before several times. I took them before the justice; they denied knowing me; when they were brought up the second time, Lawson said the buckles were in pawn for 6 s. I gave her 6 s. and they brought them to me to the publick-house. I never found my handkerchief.


I took the people to gaol; the man was very much in liquor; the next day he agreed to make it up if they would produce the buckles; they said they were in pawn, and he gave them 6 s. and I believe one Poll White went and brought the buckles; he said he would not hurt them.

(The prisoners were not put upon their defence.)


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron EYRE .

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-17
SentenceMiscellaneous > fine; Miscellaneous > military naval duty

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578. THOMAS HENDERSON was indicted for stealing twenty fathom of small cordage, value 20 s. and a canvass stay-sail, value 20 s. the property of William Layton , Oct. 14th .


I am the owner of a coal-vessel ; the cordage and stay-sail were stolen from on board this ship; Mr. Carter and Mr. Wood went on board on purpose to detect the prisoner.

- CARTER sworn.

I saw the prisoner on shore; he said he had a stay-sail, cordage, and other things to sell; he appointed me to go on board at a quarter after six o'clock.

- WOOD sworn.

I went on board with the prisoner. I asked him what he had to sell; he said cordage, stay-sail , and other things; he went down, and brought up this coil of rope and this stay-sail, and put them into the boat. I said if he would go on shore and leave them at an house I named, I would pay for them. I asked him the price; he said three guineas; he put them into the boat , went on shore with them, and carried himself the cordage to Mrs. Holbourne's. When I got him there I secured him.

Mr. Layton. When he was before the justice he owned they were my property, and were taken out of the ship.


I did not put them into the boat to go on shore with them. I came from Sunderland , and have no friends here. I have served on board a man of war. I was discharged from the man of war for having fits, but that was by the protection of the doctor for a little money I gave him. I was discharged from the Dunkirk at the beginning of last year.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron EYRE .

[Fine. See summary.]

[Military/Naval duty. See summary.]

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-18
VerdictNot Guilty > no prosecutor

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579. ELIZABETH PERRYMAN , spinster , was indicted for stealing a silver watch, value 3 l. a metal seal , value 3 d. a pair

of steel knee-buckles, value 3 d. a knife, value 6 d. an iron key, value 2 d. and 2 s. in monies numbered , the property of James Kempe , Oct 15th .

(The prosecutor was called, but not appearing, the Court ordered his recognizance to be estreated.)


18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-19
VerdictNot Guilty

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580. MARY the wife of John COWEL was indicted for stealing a silver cream-pot, value 15 s. a silver punch-ladle with a whalebone handle, value 4 s. a stone ring set round with garnets and set in gold, value 6 s. two cotton window curtains, value 16 s. a silver table-spoon, balue 5 s. two crown-pieces, seven hundred and forty-four farthings and five shillings in monies, numbered, the property of John Austin in the dwelling house of the said John , July 31st .


I am a victualler in Little Suffolk-street . The prisoner and her husband lodged with me six or seven months in a one-pair-of-stairs front room; there was a chest of mine in the room which was locked, I had the key of it. On the 6th of October I asked her to pay her rent? She cried and said her husband had left her. I said, as she could not pay four-shillings a week she must get a cheaper lodging; she begged I would not take away the few things she had. I said I would not; she must pay me as soon as she could. I went out and returned in about half an hour; then my wife informed me the prisoner had taken away her things and was gone. I took her afterwards at Lambeth-Marsh , and she told me where the things were pawned; she never let me know that her husband was gone till I asked her for the money.

Are you able to prove she took any of the things away after her husband was gone? - No.


I am a pawnbroker in Tooley-street. I have a silver milk-pot I took in of John Cowell, the husband of the prisoner, the 1st of July (producing it.)


I am a pawnbroker in St. Martin's-lane. I have two curtains I took in, one the 15th, the other the 31st of July; a ring on the 24th, a table-spoon on the 15th, they were all pawned by John Cowell .

To the prosecutor. When did John Cowell leave the lodging? - Six weeks before the woman left the lodging.

(There being no evidence to bring the charge home to the prisoner she was not put on her defence.)


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron EYRE .

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-20
VerdictNot Guilty

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581. CATHERINE SNELTON was indicted for stealing two guineas and an half-guinea in monies, numbered, and a canvass bag, value 1 d. the property of George Scott , October 13th .


I am Ostler at the Grey Hound-Inn, Smithfield. On last Friday night I met with the prisoner at the sign of the Boot, in Newton-street, Holbourn; an acquaintance of mine was going into the country on Friday night; he asked me to walk with him to the White Horse, Piccadilly. I stayed late there; as I came home I went into this publick-house, drank a pint of beer, and asked a man if he could recommend me to a lodging; the prisoner heard me inquire and said she could help me to one. I took out my purse, changed half a guinea at the bar and went out at the back door about seven or eight yards with the prisoner to her house. I paid her for my bed; I went to bed; I put my breeches on the bed; she came in for the candle. I got out of bed and went towards the door after her; she pulled the door too and fastened it on me. I got the door open. I could not find her. I put on my clothes and went home. I went up to the Boot on Saturday, she came in while I was there; I tapped her on the shoulder and said she was the woman I wanted. She asked what did I want with her? I said she need not make herself strange about it; had she got

any of the money left or had she spent it all? She said she had no money, and denied ever having it; I saw all the money after I was in the room.

Are you sure the prisoner is the same woman? - Yes, very sure.


I am an unfortunate girl of the town. I was standing in the street; he came by very much in liquor; he asked me for a lodging. I said he might have part of mine, what would he give me for the lodging? He said two shillings. I went out for a pint of beer; the door was on the latch; when I came back he was gone; he dined with me afterwards on Saturday, and drank with me at night.

To the prosecutor. Did you ever recover your breeches again? - Yes; I found them in the room towards the door.

Did you dine with her on Saturday, and drink with her in the evening? - No.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Justice HEATH.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-21
VerdictGuilty > theft under 5s
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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582. JOHN TURNER was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of Isaac Walton , on the 8th of October , about the hour of seven in the night, and stealing three diaper table-cloths, value 6 s. seven linen stocks, value 5 s. two linen shirts, value 5 s. and two linen shifts, value 4 s. the property of the said Isaac, in his dwelling house .

2 d Count. For burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house with intent to steal the goods of the said Isaac.


I live in Robinhood-court, Milk-street . On the 8th of October, at a little past seven in the evening, I returned home from Islington; while I stopped at the bottom of the court to make water I perceived a man jump out of the parlour window of my house; immediately after that I perceived another jump out; as he came past me he gave me a wheel round; then I saw a third jump out, which was the prisoner. I catched him by the throat and said, I would hold him if he was the Devil. I seised him by the collar and cried out thieves and murtherers! and I held him till some neighbours came; then my wife, who was behind me, came up and opened the door; there was nobody in the house. I went out about half after one; she came to me about an hour and an half after, and we walked up to Islington; when my wife had opened the door I took him in; when I came into the parlour I saw a table-cloth spread upon the oil-cloth, and the sundry things, mentioned in the indictment, laid upon it; they had been taken out of a drawer in the same room.

When had you seen them in the drawer before? - I suppose three or four days; when I took him in and found these things laid upon on the table-cloth I held him by the throat and asked him if these things were his? He made no answer; the sash was pulled down; there was a pane of glass in the sash broke. I suppose they got the window open by breaking the pane of glass and putting an hand in and opening the fastening to the sash; the pane, which was broken, was immediately under the fastening.

The other two got away? - Yes. I had not the same presence of mind as I had when I seised this, or they would have stood no better chance than this man.

Was it dark then? - It was light enough to see him.

Was it by day-light or the light of the lamps you saw him? - By the day-light.

You could see him plain enough by the day-light to know him? - Yes.


I live in the same court. I came home about a quarter after seven; there was an uproar in the court. I went into Mr. Walton's house he had the prisoner by the collar. I fetched a constable and we took the prisoner to the compter; going into the compter there is a bench; I saw him put his hand to the bench and put down this key (producing it.)


I am a constable. I searched the prisoner but did not find any thing upon him; the clothes were delivered to me by Mr. and

Mrs. Walton; they have been in my custody ever since (producing them.)

Mrs. WALTON sworn.

I found the table-cloth spread on the floor of the parlour, I went in first by myself and found all these things upon it; they are my husband's property; I left them all in the drawers when I went out.

Cross Examination.

Does your husband rent this house? - Yes

Is it a large or a small one? - A small one.

Have you any lodgers? - Only one; he went out at six in the morning, and went with his master into the country to remove some furniture, and did not come home till the Monday night.


As I was coming from the other end of the town; I had occasion to go through this court. This gentleman laid hold of me by the collar, and used this expression, that he never hung one, but by G - d he would hang me.

To Walton. Are you sure the prisoner jumped out of the window? - Yes, I was but about three yards and a quarter from the window. I seised him directly.

NOT GUILTY of burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house, but GUILTY of stealing the goods to the value of five shillings . N. 3 years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-22
VerdictGuilty > theft under 1s
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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583. WILLIAM BIRKE was indicted for stealing a linen shirt, value 2 s. the property of John Keysell , October 11th .


The 11th of this month I was looking out of a back window which looks into Bartholomew church-yard , where these things were hanging to dry. Mrs. Keysell is a laundress. There is an alley, and a high wall parts the alley from the church-yard. I saw the prisoner and another man in the alley; the other man lifted the prisoner up, and he drew a shirt off the line.

Did you know him before? - No, I saw him in the alley before he took the shirt. I was afraid he wanted to take some of the things, and watched him; when he had got the shirt they both went away towards Cloth-fair I went and informed Mrs. Keysell of of it and we went up Cloth-fair and met the prisoner there. I laid hold of him and asked him what he had taken out of the church-yard? He immediately pulled the shirt from under his jacket, and said he found it. I held him till a gentleman came and sent for a constable, and took him to Guildhall. I am sure the prisoner is the man I saw take the shirt.


I take in washing. I hang my clothes in the burying ground of St. Bartholomew's-church. On Wednesday week I had a good many shirts hanging there. Ann Catherine went out first and stopped the prisoner just by my door before I came out.

(The shirt was produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutrix.)


I found the shirt at the end of the court. I saw two men running into it; I called after them but they would not stop, so I put it under my jacket.

GUILTY of stealing the goods to the value of 10 d. W . and Imp. 6 months .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-23

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584. JOHN PINNICK was indicted for stealing a wooden cask, value 12 d. and six gallons of brandy, value 3 l. the property of Charles Partridge , September 25th .


On the the 25th of September I delivered a cask of rum and a cask of brandy to Samuel Fearne , a carman, to carry to the sign of the Fish, above Holbourn-bars; they were the property of Charles Partridge , a brandy and wine-merchant .


I am a carman. I received two casks of spirits, from the last witness, on the 25th of

last month, to carry to the Fish, a publick-house in Holbourn. I had some tea in my cart , I put these casks upon it; they were marked at each end with chalk and tallow by myself. As I was going up Holbourn-hill , Richard Hunt told me a man had taken a cask out of my cart and was gone up Hatton-garden. He said a boy gave it him. I said it was mine. I missed the cask, I pursued the prisoner, and took him with it in Charles-street, Hatton-garden. I asked him where he got the cask? He was very willing to deliver it up. I took him to Mr. Hodgkin the constable and he was carried to prison, Hodgkin has had the cask ever since.


How old are you? - I was thirteen last May.

Do you know the nature of an oath? - Yes, it is always to speak the truth.

What will be the consequence if you do not? - I shall go to hell.

Do you know that you are liable to be punished in this life if you do not tell the truth? - Yes. I was going of an errand for my master to Snow-hill, as I was coming back I saw this cart stand by Holbourn-bridge. I saw a woman and a boy cross the way three or four times. I thought they had an intention of robbing the cart. The cart driven on up Holbourn-hill; I followed it and watched them. At Hatton-garden a boy ran up to the cart and pulled the cask to the tail of the cart; the prisoner ran immediately to the tail of the cart, and took the cask and put it on his shoulder.

Are you sure the prisoner is the person? - Yes. I told the carter, Fearne, of it, and staid with the cartwhile hewent after the man.

(The cask was produced in court by the constable, Thomas Hodgkin , and deposed to by James Galbreath .)


As I was going up Holbourn, I kicked against the cask in the highway; I took it and put it upon my shoulders.

GUILTY . Imp. 3 months .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-24

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585. ROBERT HILL was indicted for stealing ten pieces of printed linen cloth, containing 243 yards, value 27 l. the property of David Lewis , in the warehouse of the said David , October 6th .

2 d Count. For stealing the same cloth in the dwelling-house of David Lewis .


I am shopman to Mr. Lewis, who keeps a linen warehouse opposite the Mansion-house On the 6th of October , while I was writing in the warehouse, in a place which commanded a full view of the door, I heard the feet of a man in the warehouse; I looked up immediately and saw a man walk out with a parcel of linen under his arm; he crossed the way; I followed him till I came up to him; I never lost sight of him only while I got up from my feat. I seised him by the collar; he turned round, let the cloth fall, and struck me on the breast. There were ten pieces of cloth. After he had struck me he put himself in a fighting posture; I returned the blow, and he stumbled off the pavement, and then ran away. I pursued him immediately; he ran round the Mansion-house up Lombard-street, up a passage. When I came up to him I seised him by the collar; I knew him immediately to be the man, who had struck me and had the cloth. under his arm. I brought him back to the warehouse, and sent for a constable. A neighbour who saw the transaction took up the linen and brought it into the warehouse.

Are you sure the prisoner is the man you first laid hold of and who dropped the pieces and struck you? - Yes, I am sure of that.


Upon the 6th of this month I saw Mr. Potter attack a person, who had got a parcel of linen under his arm. I saw the man drop the linen. Seeing a scuffle ensue, I went immediately to secure the linen. The person ran away , and Mr. Potter pursued him.

Was it the man Mr. Potter attacked who dropped the linen? - Yes, it was.

Do you know whether the man Mr. Potter brought back was the man who dropped the linen? - I cannot say that, I was not near enough to know. I kept the linen in my possession

till it was produced before the Lord Mayor; then I made my private mark upon it. This is the linen.

(It was produced in court and deposed to by Richard Potter .)

Prisoner. I leave my defence to my counsel.

To Potter. Where is the warehouse? - Opposite the Mansion-house.

Where is Mr. Lewis's house? - Part over it and part on the side of it.

(The prisoner called four witnesses who gave him a good character.)

GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-25
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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586. ROGER SHIELDS was indicted for stealing a cotton gown, value 2 s. 6 d. a pair of callimanco stays, value 5 s. a half lawn handkerchief, value 15 d. and a linen apron, value 15 d. the property of William Briggs , October 1st .


I am the wife of William Briggs ; I live in Crown-court, Broad St. Giles's . The prisoner came the Saturday before the 1st of October, and asked for a lodging for him and his wife. When I had let him a lodging, he asked me for a coat he had left with me last Christmas. I told him I could not find it just then. He said I had better find it or he would very quickly be a match for me, I found it the next morning and showed it to his wife, and she was very well satisfied with it. He and his wife went out the same day, which was Sunday; on the Sunday night I saw him walking up and down the court two or three times, he did not offer to come near the house; at eleven o'clock at night I undressed myself and went to bed; I put my clothes at the back of a chair at the foot of my bed. I left my maid sitting in the room with a young child that was very cross; I desired her to put it in the cradle; I was very heavy to sleep, and could not sleep for the child. About an hour after she put the child into bed to me, I locked my door, and put the key under, and went up to bed. I did not miss my clothes till I got up in the morning then I went and asked her if she knew any thing of my clothes? She said, no; she had left the door open while she had gone up stairs, but that she was not gone above five minutes. I cut a piece of the gown which I had left, in about twenty pieces. I went round to all the pawnbokers, near St. Giles's and left the pattern of it. I was sent for afterwards to the office; the prisoner having been stopped in the night with my clothes.


I am a watchman. While I was crying the hour of twelve, I met the prisoner with a bundle. I asked him what he had got there? He said, what was that to me, had not he his wife with him? There was a young woman, I asked her about it. She said she knew nothing of him. I took them both to the watch-house. They both disowned knowing any thing of one another, so the constable let the woman go. He said then he found the things in a coach coming from Greenwich.

(They were produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutor.)


I met a woman I knew at Greenwich; she said if I would carry this bundle to Hyde-street for her, she would pay me well. A watchman stopped me. She said she would follow me directly.

GUILTY . W . and Imp. 6 months .

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-26
VerdictNot Guilty

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587. THOMAS WATTS was indicted for stealing two plate-coach-glasses, value 30 s. a hammer-cloth, value 5 s. and a green baze cover, value 3 s. the property of John Newman , Oct. 10th .


I am a watchman. On the 10th of October, I saw two men going along near Old-street, one of them with a bundle; the prisoner was the other man; I was close behind him; it was ten o'clock at night; I stopped them, upon crossing the way; and turning my

rattle , the man dropped the bundle, and ran away; the prisoner, who was behind that man, stopped; I went up and secured him.

Another witness sworn.

Upon Barns's turning his rattle I came up, and saw this bundle, containing the goods mentioned in the indictment, upon the ground.

(They were produced in court, and deposed to by the prosecutor.)

Prosecutor. They were taken out of a chariot, which came in that evening.


He promised me, if I told him nothing but the truth, he would forgive me, and make me an evidence, and he supplied me with money while I was in Bridewell.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron EYRE .

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-27
VerdictGuilty > theft under 1s

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588 THOMAS CLEWLEY , otherwise JOHN LANGFORD , was indicted for stealing a tenant saw, value 3 s. the property of William Tripp , Sept. 9th.


I am a gun-stocker by trade. On Saturday the 9th of September I went out to tea. I placed a tenant saw upon a bench in my master's shop. I was absent an hour and an half; when I was returning to the shop John Pinkerton met me; he said he had seen the saw taken away. I saw it the same day in the possession of Crocker. It is my property.


Coming out of my master's shop, I observed the saw in the prisoner's hand; he laid it down upon seeing me; after that he went away with his coat buttoned, and his arm under his coat. I could not see the saw, but I suspected he had stolen it; after he was gone I went into the shop, and missed it.


On the 9th of September, about four in the afternoon , the prisoner brought this saw to me. I lent him two shillings upon it; he said it was his own property.

(The saw was produced in court, and deposed to by the prosecutor.)


I know nothing at all of it.

GUILTY of stealing to the value of 10 d.

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-28
VerdictNot Guilty

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589. WILLIAM BOOTH was indicted for stealing forty-eight glass quart bottles, value 4 s. twenty pound of hair, value 3 s. and two hempen sacks, value 12 d. the property of Ann Perry , spinster , Sept. 21st .

(There was not any evidence given in support of the prosecution.)


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-29

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591. MARGARET M'LOCKLIN and MARY ALLEN , spinsters , were indicted for that they, in a certain dwelling-house belonging to a certain person unknown, in and upon William Coppen feloniously did make an assault, putting him in corporeal fear and danger of his life, and stealing from his person a silver watch, value 40 s. a steel chain, value 10 d. a stone swivel seal , value 4 s. and a brass watch-key, value 1 d. the property of the said William Coppen , Sept. 19th .


I am a journeyman to one Thomas Cave , a baker. On the 19th of September I was walking in Whitechapel; I accidentally met with M'Locklin , who asked me to go that way; I said I was going that way home. As I was passing by Three-Ton Alley with her she clapped her hands round my waist and forced me into a house; she then fastened the door upon me and knocked me down with her hand; then she snatched the watch out of my pocket; I catched part of the chain of my watch in my hand, in order to get it away. Mary Allen beat me while I was down, and by that means M'Locklin got my watch , and I saw her put it into her bosom;

then M'Locklin brought a knife and swore she would stick it into my eye for a pin; she did cut me in the side of my face I cried out, Murder! for God's sake! A person coming up the alley heard me, and he broke open the door; we sent for a constable, who secured the prisoners.

M'Locklin. Was the door opened or broke open? - It was burst open.


As I was passing by through Three-Ton Alley I heard a great cry of Murder. I stood at the door and listened for three or four minutes; I heard the young man say, For God's sake let me alone, let me have my watch. Another man came up, he and I burst the door open, upon which the prosecutor cried out, I am very glad you have burst the door open, for I had like to have been murdered. As he spoke that I saw M'Locklin throw a knife out of her hand, the prosecutor was all of a gore of blood, he had a wound on the side of his cheek.

M'Locklin. Was the door opened or burst open? - Burst open, to the best of my knowledge.

JOHN PENN sworn.

I am a constable , I went and searched the room in which the prosecutor was robbed; there was about an handful of straw lay scattered about, I found the watch amongst it.

(The watch was produced in court, and deposed to by the prosecutor.)


Going down Whitechapel the prosecutor met me, and said he had no money about him, but would leave his watch for a crown, and would come between one and two the next day; he laid down upon the bed upon me half an hour; after that he wanted his watch; I said he should not have it till he gave what he promised me; he said he would charge an officer with me; with that he brought Mr. Penn, and the next day I delivered the watch to Mr. Penn.

To the prosecutor. Did you deliver the watch to her? - No, I never did.


This young woman called me in to give her a light; the prosecutor promised to leave the watch with her for a crown; I went out again directly; upon hearing a noise a little after, I went in, and he charged the officer with both of us.

Both GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-30
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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592. THOMAS BURN was indicted for stealing two stone knee-buckles, set in silver, value 10 s. the property of Robert Salmon , October 18th .


I keep a silversmith and jeweller's shop in the Strand . On the 18th of this month, about five in the evening, I found the show-glass of my shop broke, and missed two stone knee-buckles set in silver.


I was in my father's (the prosecutor's) shop. The prisoner and another man came up to the show-glasses, between five and six o'clock on the 18th of this month. They stood there a good while; then they went away. I went to the little parlour; when I came back I saw the same two men at the glass again; and I saw the shorter one, which is not the prisoner, have his hand in the glass. I went up to the window (the prisoner saw me) while the other was taking the buckle out of the glass. The prisoner made a kind of an halloo; he ran a little way not quite the length of the window, and then stopped till the other man got the buckle out of the glass. I saw the buckle in his hand. Then they both ran off together. I ran out to the door, and Mr. Scotcher, who is a neighbour, pursued them; the other man ran off; the prisoner was secured. He was searched but nothing found upon him. He said he did not do it. This was between five and six in the afternoon.

Was it not dusk then? - Not so dark but I could plainly discern their faces.


I was standing at my door, which is opposite Mr. Salmon's. Miss Salmon advanced towards the window seemingly in great confusion. At that time I observed the prisoner

and another man standing close to the window; they seemed to stagger. I did not see them do any thing. When Miss Salmon came to the door she turned about, as I supposed to call her father or some of the family. Her father advanced towards the door and I observed the prisoner and the other man to run away very precipitately. I ran after them. The prisoner was the hindermost; I took him, and brought him back to the shop.

What did he say? - He made no resistance. I asked him where his accomplice was? He said he did not know.

Prisoner. Did not I say I had nobody with me? - No. I asked him where his accomplice was? He said he did not know.

Prisoner. He asked me where my accomplice was gone? I said I had nobody with me. - His accomplice was within eight doors of me when I laid hold of him, but I had not the presence of mind to call out stop thief!


I was in the compacity of a postillion in my last place; I was going on an errand by Mr. Salmon's house; I stopped at the end of Mr. Salmon's shop to tye up my garter; the prisoner looked me hard in the face, he was within reach of the glass of the shop window, he moved a little on one side; I saw the other man take his hand out of the glass, I was buttoning my breeches knee; the prisoner hallooed to the other, upon which they both went off down Buckingham-street.

To Mr. Scotcher. Did they turn down Buckingham-street? - They might make a feint to turn down Buckingham-street; I never lost sight of them; I am sure they did not go down Buckingham-street.


I was going along the street, and saw these people standing at their doors; I stopped to buckle up my shoe; I went to cross the street out of the way of a coach; this gentleman came and laid hold of me; he said I had robbed the shop; I said I would go back with him to any place he required.

GUILTY . Whipped ,

and imprisoned 6 months .

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-31

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593. GEORGE BISHOP was indicted for that on the 28th of July last, a certain letter, directed to Mess. Hitchons and Wood, in Chandos-street, Covent-garden, containing a bill of exchange; the tenor of which said bill of exchanges as followeth, viz.

Burnley, July 24th, 1780.

" 30

"Eighty-two days after date pay Mr.

" Henry Greenwood , or order, thirty pounds,

"value received, as advised by


"To Messrs. James and John Bulcock ,

"No. 85, Southwark, London."

Was sent by the said Henry Greenwood , by the post, from Burnley , in the county of Lancaster; which said letter, containing the said bill of exchange, on the 28th of July, was received at the General Post office, to be carried and delivered as aforesaid, and on the same day came to the hands and possession of the said George Bishop , he being a person employed in the General Post-office : that he feloniously did steal, and take out of the said letter, the said bill of exchange, the same being the property of the said Henry Greenwood , and the said 30 l. secured thereby remaining unsatisfied to the said Henry Greenwood , the proprietor thereof , against the statute .

2d Count same as the first, except charging it to be a packet, instead of a letter.

3d Count, same as the first, except omitting that the letter was sent by Henry Greenwood , but only that a certain letter, containing said bill of exchange, was received by the post at the General Post-office, London, to be carried and delivered.

Three other Counts like the former, except instead of charging him with stealing said bill of exchange out of said letter and packet, charging him with felony , secreting said letter and packet, containing said bill of exchange.


I live at Burnley in Lancashire.

Had you occasion at any time and when to remit any bills to London? - I had occasion to remit some the 25th of July last for Messrs. Hitchons and Wood, in Chandos-street; I endorsed those that were endorsible; I gave a frank directed to Messrs. Hitchons and Wood, London, to my clerk, and desired him to enclose the bills; there were sixteen of them, the amount of the whole was 181 l. 8 s.

Look at that bill (the draft for 30 l.) and inform the Court and Jury whether that is one of the bills you gave to your clerk to be so forwarded? - It is; it is drawn by a Mr. Toper, payable to me.

Do you know Mr. Topper? - Yes, I saw him write this, and it is endorsed on the back by me.

You said there were fifteen other bills sent by the same mode of conveyance? - Yes.

Look over these sixteen bills, and see how many you can identify? - (Inspects them) Here are eleven I am certain to; the other four I believe to be the bills, but I cannot swear to them; they answer the descriptions in our bill-book.

Cross Examination.

How long was it before you found those bills had not arrived at your correspondent's in London? - It might be three weeks, or longer, before I received the letter.

You received no intelligence of it till three weeks or more; was not that an uncommon circumstance that you received no advice of them? - At that time I owed them a considerable sum of money, and I desired my clerk, when he sent those bills, to wr ite a letter to them, and enclose it under cover, desiring them not to give me advice of those bills till they received something further; and that was the reason why I did not expect advice by the regular course of the post.


I am clerk to Mr. Greenwood. On the 25th of July last he delivered me sixteen bills of exchange; I wrote a letter, and sealed them up in a frank, directed to Messrs. Hitchons and Wood, in Chandos-street; I put it into the post-office at Burnley on the same day.


I am post-master at Burnley.

What did you do with the letters put into your office on the 25th of July? - I sent them off in the usual course of business; they went to Bradford which is the next place where the bag is opened.

Your's is a bye post? - Yes, a sort of bye post which goes between Bradford and Preston.


I am post-master at Bradford.

Did you receive a bag of letters from Burnley on the 25th of July? - I did.

What became of them? - I forwarded them in the usual course of business.

Your mail I believe goes directly to London without being opened afterwards? - Yes. I opened the Burnley bag, and put the letters into the Bradford bag, among the Bradford letters , and then I charged myself with them.


I am a clerk at the Post-office in Lombard-street.

Whether the Bradford bag comes to the Post-office unopened? - It does; that is the course of business.

What time did the Bradford bag which was sent on the 25th, arrive in London? - On the 28th the letters were delivered out to be carried as directed.


You I believe belong to the General Post-office? - Yes, I am inspector of the letter-carriers.

Do you know the prisoner! - Yes.

What was his employ in July last? - A supernumerary letter-carrier.

Do you know how he was employed on the 28th of July? - He was employed as a letter-carrier.

Do you happen to know who was the person in whose stead he was employed? - During the absence of Thomas Williams . He was employed to carry the letters Williams should have carried if he had been on duty.

In what district? - Covent-garden.

Is Chandos-street within the bounds of his delivery? - It is.

Court. How long had the prisoner been employed for Williams? - He was put upon that walk some time in June, and continued in that walk till the latter end of August.


You are in partnership with Mr. Wood in Chandos-street? - I am.

Did you receive on the 28th of July last any letter from Mr. Greenwood enclosing any bills? - I did not.


I am in partnership with Mr. Hitchons; I live in Chandos-street.

Did you receive a letter on the 28th of July from Mr. Greenwood, enclosing some bills? - I did not.


I am a sawyer , and live at the Bricklayer's Arms in Whitecross-street.

Do you know the prisoner? - I do.

Where did the prisoner live last July? - I cannot give any account. I was his landlord two years ago. I let him a one-pair-of-stairs room, No. 1, in Jerusalem-court, Clerkenwell, and a small cellar.

Is that on the right or left hand going into the house? - The cellar lies on the left hand going into the house.

Did you afterwards let to him a parlour? - Yes, last Michaelmas was a twelve-month.

Where was the parlour? - On the right hand going in.

Cross Examination.

Do you live in this house now? - No.

So you cannot tell what became of those apartments since you left the house? - No.

Court. Did this man continue to be your tenant as long as you was the owner of the house? - Yes.

When did you quit it? - At Christmas last.


I live at No. 1, Jerusalem-court, Clerkenwell. The prisoner lived in the same house.

What apartments did he occupy in that house? - A parlour on the right-hand side and a cellar below.

I understand there are two cellars in the house? - Yes, there are.

Which did he occupy? - It is on the left-hand side as you go into the house, it is under the left-hand apartment.

Who occupied the other cellar? - I did.

There were but these two cellars in the house? - No, only those two.

Do you happen to know whether the other cellar you did not occupy was kept locked or not? - There was a lock on it, I cannot tell whether it was locked , I never had the curiosity to try; sometimes I have seen it open.

Cross Examination.

There are several lodgers in the house? - Yes.

You say the cellar is on the left-hand side, and that sometimes it is open, and sometimes locked? - Yes.

Then any body might have access to it at any time? - Yes. Our door is generally open from morning to night, and when it is not open, there is a string to it for any body to let themselves in, and so they might have a communication with the cellar.


I believe you are the owner of some houses in Jerusalem-court? - I am.

Who was tenant of this part of the premisses , No. 1, last Michaelmas? - Mr. Bishop, the prisoner at the bar, had an apartment on the right-hand, as you go in at the street door; and there are two cellars below; Miles had one; Bishop had the other. Bishop had the cellar under the left-hand apartment.

Had he that on the 26th of last September? - He had.

Cross Examination.

You do not know whether that cellar was generally kept locked or open? - I have both seen it locked and open.

JOHN HULL sworn.

I am clerk to Mr. Parkin, the sollicitor to the Post Office. On the 26th of September I went to the house, No. 1, Jerusalem-court, to search for bills and letters. In the parlour on the right-hand side was the prisoner's wife. He had given me a direction to his lodging, when he was first apprehended at the Post-Office. I took some of Sir John Fielding 's people with me; we did not find any thing in the parlour but a letter behind the drawers. Afterwards one of the constables

found in a pocket of a coat which Bishop's wife said belonged to her husband, a key; he took the key and went down stairs to search below I did not go with him. He afterwards brought the bills up to me in the room.


I am a constable. I searched the prisoner's lodgings, at No. 1, Jerusalem-court; I found a key in a coat pocket which Mrs. Bishop said belonged to Mr. Bishop. She said it was the key of the cellar. She struck a light and went down with us into the cellar. The door had a padlock on it. I unlocked it with that key; she went into the cellar with a candle in her hand. Carpmeal took the candle from her; he found a box, which he broke open. He found a packet, containing a seal and two impressions in it , and a letter.

Among other things did you find any bills of Exchange? - Several.

Did you mark them at the time you found them? - I kept them in my custody till I arrived at the office , in Bow-street. Mr. Bond sealed them up directly before Justice Addington. They were sealed with my seal, and Mr. Hull's, and Mr. Addington's, I believe.

Did you see it afterwards opened? - Yes, a few days afterwards.

When you saw it opened did you find that your seal had not been broken before? - I did. I then marked them.

Are those the same you thus found? - Yes, they are; I marked them with my name; they are all the same.

Are these the bills you found in the box? - They were not found in the box, they were found between two boards which hung up with a rope at each end; it was a large board at the bottom and a small one at the top, and between those two boards these notes were found rolled up in a piece of blue paper.

Mr. Hull was above stairs waiting for you in the parlour? - He was. I went up and shewed them to him.

(The bill read, which together with the endorsement , was exactly as set forth in the indictment.)

To Mr. Hull. When they came up to you in the parlour they brought these bills? - They did. I looked them over and delivered them again to the constable; he produced them at Bow-street that night. Mr. Addington did not care to let me nor Mr. Todd have the bills; he said he thought it proper they should be sealed up, and delivered to some banker. There was no banker's open then, therefore it was that they were sealed with M'Manus's , Mr. Todd's, and Mr. Addington's seals; I put Mr. Todd's seal to it. The next morning they were shewn to Mr. Addington; he saw they had not been opened. The next morning Mr. Wright said he saw no objection to my having the bills; they were delivered to me and I marked them immediately (inspects them). These are the sixteen bills I marked.

Cross Examination.

What induced you to make enquiry concerning this cellar? - Finding the key in the coat pocket.

Who told you that key was the key of the cellar? - Mrs. Bishop.

She pointed out the cellar to you? - Yes.

And lighted a candle to light you down? - Yes.

When you had found these bills was there no intermediate time, in which you quitted the possession of the bills before they were sealed up? - I never quitted the possession of them. Mr. Hull looked them over in the parlour before my face.


I leave myself to the mercy of the court.

For the Prisoner.


I am a broker and undertaker. I have known him about five years; he bears an universal good character. I have been in his company very frequently , and never saw any misbehaviour by him in my life.

He has a family I believe? - I do not know; I know he has a wife.


I am a carpenter. I have known Mr. Bishop three years and upwards; I never heard a bad character of him before this. He always has been a very honest man as far as ever I heard.


I am a bricklayer. I have known him

four years; he worked with me two years, till he went away to this place; he was bred a bricklayer; I had not a man about me I liked so well; he gave universal satisfaction wherever he went; he was always considered as a very honest faithful man.


I am a box-maker. I have known him four years; he has borne a most undeniable good character.


I am a turner and glass-cutter. I have known him about a twelvemonth; he has borne an exceeding good character; I know nothing to the contrary, but that he was a very worthy honest man; I always considered him as such.


I have known him near two years; he has borne an extraordinary character; I had a very good opinion of him; I trusted him with 20 l. the very day he was taken up; my bricklayer died the day before. Thinking Bishop a good workman, and a man of good character, I sent to let him know the bricklayer was dead , and entrusted him with money to purchase his utensils.


I am a tailor. I have known the prisoner about four years; I never heard any thing but that he was a very honest worthy man; I have done business for him, he always paid me honestly, and he has done business for me; he has borne a very good character ever since I have known him.


I am a peruke-maker. I have known him about four years; he always bore an extraordinary honest character.


I am a baker. I have known Bishop seven years; he has borne a very upright character, for any thing I ever heard.


I am a stay-maker. He has borne an unimpeached character before this unhappy affair.


I have always known him to be a very hard-working man; he bears a very honest character.


I am a sawyer. I have known him two years; he has always had the character of a very honest upright man.

GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron EYRE .

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-32
VerdictNot Guilty

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594, 595. CHARLES ALLEN and JOSIAH LARCHER were indicted for stealing a wooden tub, value 2 d. and 48 lb. of butter, value 18 s. the property of Robert Combes , Sept. 29th .

(The witnesses were examined apart at the request of the prisoners.)


On the 29th of September, between the hours of seven and eight in the evening, I lost half a firkin of butter out of my shop; I know nothing how it was taken away; it was taken off the shop floor about four yards from the door.


I saw Allen go into Mr. Combes's shop and bring out a half firkin of butter; I was going past the door; I thought he was not doing right, and stopped to watch him. There was a person at the door, to whom he gave the butter. I did not take notice of the other person. As soon as they were gone I told Mr. Combes of it, and he went after them. I do not know whether or no he overtook them.

From Allen. What time was it? - About a quarter before eight.

Did you know Allen before? - Only by seeing him go by our shop; I am sure he is the person; there was a light in the shop, I saw him very plain.


I was at Cow-Cross, I saw Larcher with a tub of butter on his shoulder a little before eight at night. This gentleman came up and asked me if I saw any body go along with a tub, I said I had.


I had been to Smithfield that day and bought a horse. I went to the Bull's Head

about seven o'clock , and stayed there till about eleven drinking with some friends. There are two men at the door who saw me there. I have been bad ever since I resigned myself to them. I know nothing of it. They wanted me to pay eighteen shillings for the butter. I said I could not pay for it at all; and the attorney wanted two pounds eighteen shillings for his expences.

(Larcher was not put on his defence.)


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-33
VerdictNot Guilty

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596. RUTH GOODWIN was indicted for stealing a silver watch, value 30 s. the property of James Stuart , October 16th .


I am a watch-maker . I missed a watch on Tuesday morning; I saw it on the Monday evening before I lighted candles on my work-board in the shop. I saw it again last night at the office in Bow-street; I immediately knew the watch, it was my own making.


I am a constable. The pawnbroker who has the watch is not here. Yesterday afternoon the pawnbroker, whose name is Wood, sent to the office that he had a woman in custody. I went, and saw the prisoner there. He had stopped a watch. I took the prisoner to the office. She said her brother gave it her. I found a letter in her pocket with a direction on it to her brother. I said I would go and fetch her brother. She then cried, and desired to speak to the Justice, and said she had it not from her brother, but out of Mr. Stuart's shop. I went to Mr. Stuart, the watch was produced to him, and he swore positively it was his.


I have no witnesses.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-34
VerdictNot Guilty

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597. ANN GEARY was indicted for stealing a silver watch, value 30 s. a base metal chain, value 6 d. and two base metal keys, value 2 d. the property of Ambrose Lockart , October 18th .


I am a journeyman carpenter and joiner . On last Wednesday night I went into a publick house in St. Giles's, and drank beer with some of my fellow workmen; I fell asleep in the tap-room.

Did you drink a good deal? - I was not insensible , I drank but little liquor; my landlord waked me; he said it was half after twelve o'clock, and bid me go home to my lodging. As I came out, the prisoner laid hold of me, and asked me to go home with her, for she said I should be locked out of my lodgings. I went home with her, and went to bed with her; I put my watch in my stocking; I did not take my stocking off; I waked about three o'clock, and found my watch and the prisoner gone; I took the woman of the house to the watch-house, but she was discharged; I took the prisoner up afterwards, but never found my watch.

(The prisoner was not put on her defence.)


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-35
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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598. MARY JONES was indicted for stealing seven kenting handkerchiefs, value 9 s. the property of William Portal , October 17th .


I am the wife of William Portal ; we keep a linen-draper's shop . The prisoner came about five o'clock on Tuesday the 17th of this month to our house, and asked to see some muslin handkerchiefs. I shewed her some. She said they were very coarse, and desired to see some kenting ones. I took a bundle out of the counter, and shewed her some. I had two more customers at that time in the shop; I did not mistrust her. She asked me the price of the handkerchiefs; I told her three shillings. She said she would

give me two shillings and fourpence. I refused the two shillings and fourpence. As she t urned the corner of the door-way to go out, I saw the handkerchiefs behind her, under her arm. I called to my son to run after her. He ran out and brought her back with seven kenting handkerchiefs.


I saw the prisoner in the shop; I ran out on my mother's calling to me; I took her seven doors from the shop , and found seven handkerchiefs under her arm. I brought her back into the shop.

(The handkerchiefs were produced in court, and deposed to by the prosecutor.)


My witnesses are not here.

(The prisoner called three witnesses, who gave her a good character.)

GUILTY . Whipped , and imprisoned two months

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-36
VerdictGuilty > theft under 40s

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599. SARAH SHAW was indicted for stealing four linen sheets , value 10 s. the property of Elisabeth Smith , and a cotton petticoat, value 10 s. the property of Abraham Clark , October 4th .


On the 4th of this month I hung up some clothes in my yard to dry; I have a back house in the yard; the yard door was locked in which the clothes were; I went out for about an hour; when I came home, a little before five o'clock , my daughter and I went to fetch the things in, we found the door open, and missed four linen sheets and a Marseilles petticoat out of the yard. The sheets were mine; the petticoat was my daughter's; her husband's name is Abraham Clark . The prisoner lodged in my house; she had lodged there four weeks. I went up to her room; there was the prisoner, her daughter , and another woman. I went to the farther end of the room and clapped my hand upon two of my sheets that were upon the top of a cupboard; they were wet. I said they were my sheets. She said, No, you are mistaken, ma'am, for I have been a-washing. I asked for the petticoat. She said she knew nothing of it. There is a beauset in the room with a cupboard at the bottom, in which they keep coals and shavings; I stooped down and pulled the petticoat out from among the shavings; I never found the other sheets; I sent for a constable , and charged him with the prisoner.


I hung the clothes up about nine in the morning. I saw them about half after three, or a quarter before four. I missed them about half after five. I locked the door myself between three and four o'clock. I found the door wrenched open. I went up into the prisoner's room immediately, and found her drinking tea; there was another woman in the room, and her daughter a little girl; we found two of the sheets which I had hung up in the yard, in the morning, and my petticoat, in her room; when my mother found the sheets she said , these are my sheets; she jumped up and said, before God she was mistaken , that she had been washing and they were her own; when the petticoat was found, she said she did not know how it came there.


There was a woman in the room before I went up into it. I saw these things in the room. I know nothing how they came there.

GUILTY of stealing the goods to the value of 5 s. Imp. 6 months .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-37
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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600. WILLIAM DANIELS was indicted for stealing three pair of silver shoe-buckles, with paste set therein, value 10 l. 13 s. one pair of silver shoe roses with paste set therein, value 40 s. one steel cucumber slice, value 10 s. three pair of metal bracelet buckles gilt, value 8 s. six silk watch-strings, value 23 s. the property of Andrew Collier , Sept. 18th .


On the 18th of September, about a quarter after seven in the evening, at the bottom of Snow-Hill , I saw a boy take a box from the

basket of the Southampton coach, and give it to the prisoner, who ran away with it; the boy got out of the basket and also ran away; the prisoner ran down Fleet-market with the box; I followed him; when he saw me follow him he turned aside, and asked me what I wanted with him; I said he had got a box which did not belong to him; the prisoner said it was his own. I attempted to lay hold of him; he crossed over to Mr. Langdale's buildings; just then Mr. Wilkins came up, and stopped him with the bundle.

How came you not to stop the coach? - I called out to the coachman, but the coach was driving on, and he did not hear me.


On the 18th of September, in the evening, standing at the corner of Plumbtree-court , Holbourn-Bridge, in consequence of something I was told by a Mr. Hastings who is not here, I saw the prisoner and followed him; the prisoner had a deal box on his shoulder; I stopped him and carried him to the Three Tuns, and delivered the box and him to Mr. Green, the constable; the box is directed to Mr. Jennings, No. 85, Watling-Street.


I am book-keeper to the Southampton coach, Mr. Collier is proprietor of it; an enquiry was made for this box, and it was not forthcoming.

(Green, the constable, produced the box, which, with its contents, were deposed to by Mr. Collier, who sent it by the coach.)


A gentleman asked me to carry the box for him; being an hard-working lad I was willing to earn a shilling; the gentleman followed me up Fleet-market; Mr. Harper stopped me, and said the box was not mine; the gentleman ran away; I told Mr. Harper that it belonged to that gentleman.

To Harper. Did he tell you about any gentleman to whom the box belonged? - No; he said it was his own property.

GUILTY , W . and Imp. 12 months .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-38
VerdictGuilty; Guilty
SentenceImprisonment; Corporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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101. CATHERINE HARTMAN and MARY BARNSLEY were indicted for stealing 9 s. 6 d. in monies numbered , the property of David Cohen , Oct. 5th .


I am an old-clothes man . On yesterday was a fortnight, between two and three o'clock in the afternoon, I was crying old-clothes. The two prisoners were in an house in Fleet-lane . They called me back. Barnsley took me up two pair of stairs with her, and she showed me two pair of shoes so bad I would not have picked up such in the street. She locked the door and locked me in, and locked Hartman out.

Was there any body else in the room? - No; then she threw a coat over my face; she laid hold of my throat with one hand, and put the other hand in my pocket. I had at that time in my pocket half a guinea, 15 s. in silver, and a crown-piece. I put my hand down to my pocket to prevent her taking it out. I found she had left in my pocket the half-guinea and two shillings, and had taken out the crown-piece. She then shoved me out at the door of the room. I found Hartman at the door upon the staircase. I saw Barnsley give the other prisoner the thirteen shillings as soon as she opened the door. I cried murder; then Barnsley pushed me, and knocked me down; the other girl Hartman did not beat me, she only took the money of Barnsley. A neighbour came up, hearing the cry of murder; then Hartman said, Good man do not make a noise, I will find some of the money, and she gave me a crown-piece, a half crown. and a shilling.


Mr. Brockholes came to me and said murder was cried out at No. 11, in Fleet-lane. I went there directly. I went up stairs, and saw the prisoners , a young man, and the jew; I asked them for what reason they cried murder; the jew said he had been robbed; I asked him what he had lost; he said he had lost half a guinea, a crown-piece, and some silver; he said they had given him again the crown-piece, an half-crown, and a shilling, and that there were nine shilling

and sixpence missing. I locked the door and searched both the prisoners. I found a few halfpence in Barnsley's pocket; the other had some apples in her pocket. I did not find any money upon them. I searched the young man, and found nothing in his pocket but a knife.

Why was not the young man taken up? - The prosecutor only charged the two women. I asked him if he would have the young man taken up; he said no; he came up into the room upon my cry of murder. Barnsley threatened to cut his bloody liver out; she said she would if I had not been there.


I always worked very hard for my living.


I am innocent of it.

HARTMAN, GUILTY Imp. 6 Months .

BARNSLEY, GUILTY W . and Imp. 12 Months .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-39
VerdictNot Guilty

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602. MARY, the wife of William RICHMOND , was indicted for stealing two pieces of woollen cloth , containing four yards , value 20 s. and a callico bed-gown, value 2 s. the property of William Whitmore , Sept. 14th .


I am the wife of William Whitmore . About the beginning of September I was recommended to Mr. Richmond, the husband (or the person who passes for such) of the prisoner, to take part or all of my house. I agreed to let them the house; he referred me to several wholesale shops which I did not apply to; he was to take the things at a fair appraisement. I agreed to let them the whole house, and that I would take an apartment in it of them; he and the prisoner had lodged in the house about eight days. On the day that the agreement was up, when my broker came to appraise my things , my house was robbed. He had been recommended to us as a man in distress, ill-used by a gentleman, who had arrested him, but that he had an estate in the Isle of Wight , worth six hundred pounds, left him by his wife's father. He had said that, in the presence of the prisoner, different times. He said he had received some money from that, and from Mr. King in Holbourn, who keeps a coffee-house there; that he said he should be able to pay for the fixtures on the Monday. On the Thursday, the 14th of September, I waited for the brokers coming to appraise the things. My broker, Mr. Swain, in Moorfields, came; his broker was to come by appointment, but he did not come; I waited at home till twelve o'clock, then I went out, and returned between seven and eight o'clock; then I was told by Mr. Richmond that Mrs. Richmond was taken in labour, and was obliged to go to a house where she was to lie-in. Mr. Richmond slept there that night. The next morning I went out about eight o'clock, and came home about twelve. I dined betweed one and two. When I went after dinner up stairs, I found my room door and chest of drawers broke open. I lost a ten pound bank-note and twelve guineas and an half in gold. Then I missed a bed-gown I had worn, and which lay on the foot of the bed, and two pieces of cloth, out of the dining-room window, which had been lying there some time. I missed a number of things, but nothing that I could exactly tell when I had last seen them, as my maid servant went away on the Sunday before. I had seen the pieces of cloth and bed-gown about eleven or twelve o'clock on the Thursday, before I went out. It was on the Friday I missed it. The bed-gown was in the room which was broke open; that room was broke open on the Friday, but I did not see the bed-gown after the Thursday. I never saw the husband after the Thursday night.


I met the prisoner coming down the stairs of the house of Mr. Whitmore, No. 6, Lombard-street, with a bundle under her arm,

containing two pieces of woollen cloth; the colour of one was blue, the other russet , what they call home-spun. She went past me and went down stairs; I went up stairs.

Did you lodge in the house? - Yes.

Was her husband at home at that time? - He was not; I never saw him during the time of my being in that house, nor was he in when I went up stairs. He came in again in the evening about six, but I do not know when he went out. I asked the children if he was at home, when I went in: They said he was gone out. Mrs. Whitmore enquired after these things when she missed them. Next day I told her I had met Mrs. Richmond with a bundle under her arm, containing two pieces of cloth , which had been lying in the dining room. I went in search of Mrs. Richmond; I found her in Jerusalem-court, Clerkenwell. That was the Monday following. I advised Mrs. Whitmore to take a constable; I found the prisoner was there. Mrs. Whitmore and the constable went up and found there two pieces of cloth, which I saw the prisoner take out of the house. The prisoner was not there at that time. She was taken up before the cloth was found. We could not find it till we came back, then the sister owned where it was. The prisoner was found in the same room the cloth was found in. She said if any thing was done amiss her husband must answer for it.

(The constable produced two pieces of cloth and a bed-gown, which he found in the same room in which he took the prisoner, which were deposed to by the prosecutrix.)


My husband was a prisoner almost seven months in the Poultry Compter. This Mr. Middleton came in a prisoner; my husband told him his father-in-law in the Isle of Wight was dead and had left him some money. This Mr. Middleton and Mr. Whitmore took him out of prison to go into partnership in the shop; I was often obliged to pledge things to get money to pay Mr. Middleton for getting my husband out of prison. Mr. Middleton took my husband home to Mrs. Whitmore's house. She sent word by Mr. Middleton, that we should sleep in her house till I was brought to bed. I was taken up the 17th, and brought to bed upon the 25th.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-40
VerdictNot Guilty

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603, 604, 605. CHRISTOPHER MORRIS , ANN LOCK , and JOHN MILLS were indicted, the first for committing a rape on the body of Martha Linett , spinster , July the 17th ; and the other two for assisting , aiding, and abetting the said Christopher, the said rape to do and commit .

(The witnesses were examined apart.)


How old are you? - Fifteen.

Where do you live? - In Red-Lion-court, Watling-street, with one Mrs. Lowther.

How long have you lived there? - I lodged there three months. I came to live there on the 1st of July, when I came from my place, which was at a baker's, in Cooper's Row , Tower-hill.

How long have you lived in that place? - Four months.

What relation is Susannah Linett to you? - My mother.

Where did she live? - She lodged in the same house I did.

Where did she live when you lived at the baker's? - In the Old Change, Cheapside.

How came you to remove? - I lived in Red-lion-court when this happened. My mother removed upon this happening; the woman would not let her stay in the house.

When did this happen? - The 17th of July in the Five-Fields, Chelsea. I was going to Tower-hill, to see my mistress, the baker's wife. I met Ann Lock ; I had been with her to see the camp in St. James's before. She lodged with my mother.

Was any person with her when you met her? - No. She asked me to go with her to the camp again; that there was a young man to whom she had lent some money, that she wanted her money, and he would not pay her without I went.

Did you know who the young man was? - No; she said his name was Baldwin. She lent it before me, on the Thursday before , at the camp. This was on the Monday.

How many times had you been at the camp? - But that once before. I said I

could not go that day, I was going to my mistress. She said I shall be back by six o'clock. She persuaded me to go. I went along with her. When the clock struck six I asked her to come home. She said no, she would stay a little longer, and she stayed till the clock struck eight.

Had you known any body at the camp? - No, I had no acquaintance there.

What was you doing there? - Walking about the camp.

Had not you any thing to eat or drink? - No. We were coming home at eight o'clock; she met Christopher Morris ; she said she must go and speak to him.

Which way were you going? - Through the Horse-guards into the street.

Who was along with Morris? - There was nobody with him. She ran up to him and spoke to him. I stood there. Then Morris came down to me and asked what did I stand there for? I said I waited for the woman. He took my handkerchief out of my hand, which was a silk one.

What did he do with it? - He did not give it to me again. I went up and asked her if she was going home? She said yes, she was going home presently. She said she should go home Pimlico way; so she went that way.

That was not your way home? - No, but she said that was the best way. She went that way till she came into the fields.

You both went that way? - I did not know my way home.

Was any body with you? - Yes, there were these two men.

You have said nothing yet of the other man, when did you first see Mills? - As we were going out of the Park towards Pimlico she saw Mills.

At the time she said she would go Pimlico way was Mills there or not? - He was not there.

You agreed to go Pimlico way? - Yes, because she said that was the way home I went with her.

Did you say nothing to her about the handkerchief? - I asked her to get the handkerchief. She said she would.

Which way did you go to Pimlico? - We went up the camp again , in the park.

At what gate did you go out of the park then? - Out of a great gate the upper end of the park, close to the great house (the Queen's Palace) I walked with her till I got into the field. We met Mills as we were going out at that gate.

What passed between Mills, them, and you? - They spoke to the woman, they neither of them said any thing to me. When we came into the fields, she and Mills ran away and left me along with Morris.

How far did they go from you? - A distance.

Did they go out of sight? - I did not see them. It had been dark a good while.

What o'clock might it be? - About ten. Morris pushed me down. I halloo'd and cried. Nobody came to me till he gave a halloo, then Ann Lock came.

What was done to you before she came? - He pushed me down.

What did he do with you when he pushed you down? - He laid with me.

What do you mean by lying with you, was you ever laid with before? - No.

You must tell the jury what injury you received, if you complain of an injury from that man. You was examined before a justice of peace, was not you? - Yes.

Did not you tell him what the man did to you? - Yes.

And you must tell me what he did to you? - I told him he threw me down; he would not let me get up, not when I halloo'd out so.

Was that all he did only to refuse to let you get up again? - He would not let me get up.

I dare say your mother has told you you must tell the jury all that passed between you and him, you say he threw you down? - Yes.

Go on to describe what he did to you after that? - He vowed he would have his ends of me. I told him he should not, and I cried and halloo'd.

What did he do to you in order to have his ends of you, had he his ends of you? - Yes, the last time.

What did he do the first time? - I would not let him get his ends.

What did he try to do in order to get his ends, you know what it is you complain of; you say you was never served so before? - No.

What was it he did to you? - He pushed me down in the fields against my consent.

When he had thrown you down what was the next thing he did; you told your mother what he did to you? - Yes.

What did you tell your mother? - I told her he had lain with me.

You had never been lain with before? - No. I would not let him have his ends the first time nor the second.

When had he his ends? - The third time he swore he would.

What did he do to you the first time when he had not his ends of you? - He pushed me down.

What did he do the last time when he had his ends of you? - I do not understand it.

You can tell what he did to you, what you mean by his lying with you? - He hurt me a good deal.

Where? - In my private parts.

What did he hurt you with? - I do not know.

Was it what you call the first time, the second, or the last time that he hurt you? - He hurt me all the times.

What was the difference between the first time and the third time when you say he had his ends of you? - He did not hurt me so much the last time.

Why do you suppose that he had his ends of you the last time rather than any other time? - Because he swore he would.

You said he swore he would at first, what makes you suppose that he had his ends of you then more than the first time? - Because I was examined as soon as I went home by a midwife.

But that would not inform any person when he had his ends of you; tell me every thing that passed, just in the manner in which it passed; you said he threw you down, what was the next thing he did? how were your clothes when you fell? - Wet.

Was any thing done to your clothes? - I was very wet.

Were your petticoats up or down when you fell down? - He pushed me down and pulled them up.

What was the next thing he did after he pulled up your petticoats? - He began pulling me about. I struggled, and halloo'd out murther!

You was upon the ground, where was he? - He was upon me.

You say he hurt you in your private parts, what was it he hurt you with? - I do not know.

Upon your oath do not you know? - No, I do not.

You say your clothes were wet, when was that? - The first time.

Did you fall down in a dirty place, or upon grass, or where? - Upon grass.

What part of your clothes were wet? - The hind part of my shift and petticoat.

How long was he lying upon the ground with you in this manner? - Not a quarter of an hour in all. I halloo'd and cried, and they halloo'd at one another.

You say he used you ill during this time three different times? - Yes.

And you say he had his ends of you the last time? - Yes.

What did you observe that makes you suppose he had his ends of you the last time rather than the first time? - I did not know till I was searched by the midwife when I came home.

But she could not tell whether it was the first or last time; why do you say it was the last time? - He hurt me all the three times.

In a quarter of an hour he halloo'd, and they came back? - I was crying. Ann Lock came back. She asked me what I was crying for, she said it was what I must come to, and she must come to, and all women must come to. They walked a little farther. I asked her if she was going home? She said yes. When we got a little farther she ran away from me and left me along with Morris again. Then he pushed me down and served me the same again, and I halloo'd and cried murther!

upon which two men came up to my assistance.

Who were they? - I do not know. Morris swore, and asked them what they wanted? They said it was time to come when murther was called. Morris and Mills drew their bayonets, and swore if they touched me they would run them through; so the men said no more, but went away; and they stuck their bayonets in the ground.

You do not know who these men were? - No, I do not; I have never seen any thing of them since. After these men went away, Mills went down to Ann Lock , and then Morris served me the same again. I halloo'd and cried out murther! then Mills came up and swore at me, bid me lie still, and he hit me a knock over the eye with his bayonet , and then he went away again. I cried so that Morris got up from me, and halloo'd to them; then Mills and Lock came up to me. Then we went on farther still; they said they were going home; we all walked on , when they came into another field she ran away from me again, and left me alone with Morris.

This was the fourth time was it? - No, the third time, and he used me the same again; and I halloo'd, and cried then, and he swore he would have his ends of me before he had done. I halloo'd and cried so that he got up at last. The two men went away the last time he got up, and left me and Ann Lock together; it was so dark she said she could not get into her lodging, so we staid out all night. When it was light she got up, and was coming home to the Old Change, where she lodged; I was going to Watling-street. She came the park way. When she came into the park, she said she would go and ask the man for my handkerchief, or else my mother would make a noise at me. She went into the camp to ask for my handkerchief. She staid a good while; as she staid so long, I went in after her to see if she would come home. As I stood asking her to come home, my mother came after me.

How did she know where to find you? - I do not know. This woman had staid out all night. As she could not find me any where where I used to go, so she came to the park to see if I was there.

Your mother found you before you got your handkerchief again? - Yes.

How soon did you tell your mother what had passed? - I told her directly.

What did your mother say to you when she found you? - She said nothing to me, but she began crying as soon as she found me.

Was not she angry with you for staying out? - She said nothing to me in the camp. I came out of the camp directly with her home.

Did not she ask you where you had been all night? - Yes, when she came out of the camp.

But when she first saw you in the camp? - No.

Who was along with you when she found you in the camp? - I stood outside of the tent; Ann Lock was inside of it, asking Morris for the handkerchief. As I stood outside I saw my mother coming up the camp. I went down to her. I said nothing to her then, but when I came out of the camp into the park I told her where I had been. We went home directly. She asked me whether I should know the man? I said yes. In the afternoon my mother and another woman came down along with me for me to show them the man. I showed Morris to her. She said nothing, but came home again. On the next Monday she had him taken up.

That was a week after? - Yes.

It was the Tuesday afternoon you went with her to the camp, to see if you could know the man? - Yes; he was taken up on the Monday after that, and taken before the justice.

When was you examined by the midwife? - On Tuesday , as soon as I went home.

Was that before or after you had been to the park, to see if you could find out the man? - After: at first my mother, and another woman, Ann Bull , where my mother lodged, searched me.

Is this all you have to say? - Yes.

You describe your being used ill three different times with great particularity, and you still tell me you are not able , upon your oath,

to say what it was you was hurt with? - No.

Did you take any particular notice of the man's dress when he was hurting you? - No.

His breeches particularly? - No.

Have you a father alive? - No.

Have you always lived in London? - No, I came from Thame in Oxfordshire.

How long have you been in London? - About nine months.

Are not you more than fifteen years old? - No.

You had been at the camp once before? - Yes.

Which way did you go to the camp then? - The same way as I went the second time.

And which way did you come back then? - The same way as I went.

What part of the town did you come to when you first came out of Oxfordshire? - Where I am now.

Had you ever been in the park before you went to see the camp? - No.

Was you ever Stepney way out of town? - No, no farther than Tower-hill and Watling-street.

Did you never go out to Stepney-fields? - No, I never went out to any fields.

Did not you suspect that there was something amiss, when this woman took you out into the fields, as that was not the way you came home the time before? - No, I said this is not the way home; she said that was the nighest way, and the best way home.

Morris. My bayonet was in my tent at home. She said I hurted her. I said I would not have any thing to do with her. She cannot say I ever offered to ravish her.

M. Linett. You did do what I said; I have said no false word at all.

Morris. She said I should hurt her; I said before I would hurt her, I would not be guilty of it.


Are you the mother of Martha Linett ? - Yes.

How old is your daughter? - Fifteen years of age.

Where did she come from to London? - Oxfordshire. I have been in London about a year and a half; she has been in London about nine months.

Did not she come to London when you did? - No.

What was the first place she came to when she came to London? - She was with an acquaintance of mine, till I could get her a place, for about a month; then I got her into a little place to look after a child a week or two, till I could hear of a better for her. She was there about three weeks; then I heard of a better place at a woman's in Grub-street; she was there about three weeks; then I got her the place upon Tower-hill.

Do you know at what time she went out on the Monday? - I sent her to fetch a cann of water; she brought the water. She said she was going to her mistress's, upon Tower-hill, to seek after a place. She did not come home on Monday night; she should have come to the place where I was charring, at No. 5, Red-lion-court. She had no other acquaintance, that I knew of, but a fellow servant, who had lived along with me, one Ann Sackwell , who lived in Billiter-square. I went there as soon as it was light in the morning; for as she had lain with her several nights, I thought she might be there again; she was not there. Ann Lock lay with me at my lodgings at that time; she did not come home all night; so I thought she must have got my daughter somehow away, because I had heard she had taken her to the camp, when I was out, the day before. I directly set out for the camp; when I came to the little gate, which faces Whitehall, I asked the sentries if they had seen a woman and a girl go through that way. They said they saw a woman, about twenty-six years old, and a girl about fourteen, just pass by. I asked where they thought I should find them. They said if I went to the next sentry, he would tell me. I went there. He said, a woman about twenty-six years old, and a girl about fourteen, had just walked along, and he thought they were gone into the farther tent. As I turned my eye, I saw my girl stand at the corner of the tent; I went up to her; she met me, and ran out of the camp; for I was in a great passion.

In a great passion with her? - Not with

her, but with that woman; I never spoke to her till I got out of the camp. I drove the woman ( Ann Lock ) out of the camp, down as far as the lower gate; she said she would down on her knees, and ask my pardon a thousand times; I left her in the camp and went home, and took my child with me. When I had her home she cried very much. She told me how she had been used, as soon as I came out of the Park into a convenient place. When I got her home I asked her the particulars; she said she would not make it publick before company, but if I would take her by myself she would tell me the rights of it; I took her to her own lodgings and examined her, and I found things not right; I saw she had been plainly ruined.

Is the midwife here? - She is at a labour; she said if the court wanted her and sent, she would come.

You say you found things not right, in what respect do you mean? - I saw she had been plainly lain with by a man; then I had her to the midwife, who told me the girl was very much bruised.

Did you observe any bruises yourself? - I did, in several places upon her private parts, and she had a black eye; I asked the midwife if she thought there was any thing further the matter with her; she said she could not tell.

What day was it you had her to the midwife? - The same afternoon.

Did you ask your daughter who the person was that had used her ill? - She said if she was to see the man she should know him the minute she saw him. I set out in the afternoon along with her to St. James's Park, to find the man; we found Christopher Morris walking about the camp; she charged him.

Who was along with you? - One Ann Bull ; she is not here.

What did you do then? - I did not know what to do; I was like a woman out of her senses; I came home and advised with my friends; they advised me to get a warrant and take the man up; I got a warrant on the 21st day of the month, which was the Friday, and on the Monday it was served upon him.

When she fixed upon him did you go and speak to him? - Yes; he asked me to go and drink with him; I told him I did not choose to drink with such wretches; I had no notion of soldiers at all; he had the impudence to call me mother; he said, mother, don't be angry.

What did you say to him? - I asked the child if that was the man who had injured her; she said it was.

How near was Morris to you at that time? - Close to me; he talked all the impudence he could to her.

What did you say to him? - I told him he should have no more than the law allowed.

Was any other person with him at that time? - There were a great many soldiers in the camp.

Did you say any thing to any of them? - I talked to nobody but him, and said but a word or two to him.

Why did not you apply to some of the officers, and have him taken up immediately? - I did not know which way to set about it.

Was this all that passed between you and him that day? - Yes; I took him up by a warrant the next Monday.

How did you find out his name? - I enquired of the soldiers in St. Paul's Church-yard if they knew one Morris; I had got his surname, but not his christian name.

How came yo u to know his surname? - My daughter mentioned his surname.

Where had the girl lived, from the time you came out of Oxfordshire , till she came up to London? - I left her at school.

Who had the care of her? - Her mistress; she boarded at her grandmother's.

Did you send for her up? - No, I did not know of her coming up till I saw her.

What was the occasion of her coming? - She wanted to see me.

Did she come up of her own head? - Yes, she did entirely.

How did she know where to find you? - I had sent letters to my mother almost every week; she got intelligence by the letters.

Was there no particular occasion for her leaving the country? - None at all.

It is a bold thing, I think, for so young a girl, as you describe your daughter to be,

to come to London to find you? - She could herself read and write; she read my letters, and therefore knew where to find me.

When she was in her place, did she use to come out now-and-then to see you? - Her mistress gave her leave to come and see me every Sunday.

Then she knew something of London streets? - She knew the way from Tower-hill to Watling-street; I do not know that she knew any farther. The man injured the girl very much; she was sent to the hospital, and came out incurable; but Surgeon Earle has cured her.

Mr. JAMES EARLE sworn.

I am a surgeon.

Where do you live? - In Watling-street.

When did you first see this girl? - All I know of the matter is, that about two months ago the mother came to my house, said her daughter was very ill, and begged my advice; she brought her to me; I found she was very much injured with the venereal disease; I cured her. She came as a pauper to my house; I looked at her.

I suppose you cannot form any opinion whether she had been forced? - No, I took no notice of that kind.

Jury. In order to judge whether she had a venereal complaint, did you examine the private parts at all? - No, it was so evident there was no occasion to examine the private parts.

Court. If the parts had received any considerable bruise, or laceration, upon the 17th of July, those appearances might probably have been removed by the time you saw the girl? - Most probably, it is very possible to give a disease without.

To S. Linett. When Morris was taken up and carried before the justice, do you know whether he was examined by a surgeon? - I do not know.

Then you are not able to prove whether at that time he had or not the venereal disease? - No.


The first time I saw this girl I saw her in the camp along with other soldiers; I saw her about four days after again in the camp, with soldiers. This gentlewoman (the prisoner Lock) and she came by me; Martha Linett said, That is a pretty young man. I saw them both laugh; I went up to them, and asked them which way they were going. They said they were going to look at the camp. I said I will go along with you, if it is agreeable. Martha Linett said it would be very agreeable, if I would go with her. I went along with them, and asked them if they would drink. They said they would; and they drank with me at the booths in the camp. By that time it was near eight o'clock at night. I told them I must be absent from their company, for I must go to the roll-call at eight; I went. They said they would stop for me till I had done at the roll-call. I said that might detain me half an hour. Martha Linett said she did not care, she would stop for me; and she did stop till I was dismissed from the roll-call. It was then about half after eight. We went to the same booth we had been at before, and had a pot of beer; then we walked about the camp till about half after nine. I said I could not stay longer, I must go to my tent; for we might be roll-called again. She begged I would stay a little longer. I told them, if I staid longer I must miss my roll-call, and be out all night. Then she directly begged me to stay all night. I said I would. She said, could we go to no other place but the camp. In the discourse this man came up and asked me how I did, and this gentlewoman and we all fell into discourse together. These two women said it would be better for us to go out of the camp; we went out; it was then a little after ten o'clock, I believe; Buckingham gates were shut up; we took a walk to Pimlico; we went, I think it was to the Queen's Head, and had two pots of beer and some bread and cheese; it being late they were going to shut up; they begged we would leave the house; I paid the reckoning. Then we went to Chelsea Five-Fields; we sat down in the fields, I suppose an hour, together; then we came down to the publick-house again; I had left my black stock behind me; the people were gone to bed; we took a walk round the King's Road; then we took a walk across

the fields, where the patroles were patrolling; there we sat down for, I suppose, half an hour. I asked her the question, if I should have to do with her. She said no, I should not; she would not be hurt by any man. I said, rather than hurt her, I would not meddle nor make with her. We walked about till near one in the morning; then we all four left the fields, and went across the road into the other fields; five or six gentlemen came down from Chelsea; the girls seemed afraid of them, and made great noises. Mills said, You have no occasion to be afraid, no person shall hurt you. The gentlemen seeing us soldiers said, they are comrades; one gave us sixpence, and another threepence. They asked me if I would let them kiss my wife. I said, You shall not hurt any person with me; I was lying down upon the ground, and they all three stood up; Mills said, Do not injure or hurt the girls. They said they would scorn it; they went away, and wished us a good night. As soon as they were gone from us we went down the road to the Wheat-sheaf at Pimlico; there we had three pots of beer; the patroles drank with us and the watchmen; we told them we were going to the camp; we parted with the two women, and told them to go home. They said they would not go home, but would walk about till such time as they should not be taken notice of to come into the camp again. They came in after us, about eight o'clock in the morning; the girl staid in the tent with me till her mother fetched her away, which I believe was about eleven or twelve o'clock. The mother fetched this gentlewoman and Martha Linett out of the tent from me. She said when she got them out, O you villain! I will hang you for ruining my daughter! The girl said, No, mother, what was done I was as willing as he. The girl and mother went away from me. The mother and another woman came the next day and made a great noise in the camp, and said they would take me up with a warrant. She said she would hang me for ruining her daughter. On the next Monday following she took me up with a warrant; I was taken to Bow-street office; Justice Addington examined me; the girl swore to me; I was committed for further examination to Tothill-fields prison; she was ordered to appear against me on the Wednesday; she did not appear against me, but the mother came; then the mother and she were ordered to appear against me again on the Friday. On the Thursday the mother and daughter came up to the prison to me, and asked me what I thought of myself. I said I was innocent of the thing that was charged to me. They asked me if I knew any thing of Mrs. Lock. I said I knew nothing of her at all. She said if I could find out where she was, nothing should come to me. I said I knew nothing of her, nor where to find her; upon which she asked me who was to pay the expences she had been at, if she did not appear against me. I asked what the expences were. She made the warrant, and serving and all, to amount to three shillings. I said I would give her three shillings, and seven more, which made it ten, to make the whole affair up with her. She said she would ask an acquaintance of her's about it, and I should give it to the person she lodged with; and if her friends approved of it, she would take it, and not appear against me. The next day she took the money, and did not appear against me; whereupon I was discharged at Bow-street office. Then she came down to the camp to me, and asked me several questions if I knew any thing of this Mrs. Lock. I said I did not. She told me, if I could not find Mrs. Lock she would take me up again; then she left me; that was about the 24th or 25th of July; I was taken up again a month after. I have a dozen witnesses who heard the girl say that what was done she was as willing as me; the mother and daughter were both together then.

To S. Linett. What do you say to that? - I did not take any money. He had got a a woman with him; he drawed this girl out of the lodgings; the woman would not let my daughter be at rest one minute in a day, but she desired her to come down to prison to him, and that he would make her his lawful wife, and use her as a father and a husband. I told the woman who came after her , that she should not go to the prison. That woman

pretended to be Morris's sister. She cried, wrung her hands, and asked her to go down with her. I told her she could have no regard for such a man.

Did this woman get the girl to go to him? - Yes, she drawed her there twice.

How came you not to appear the day he was discharged? - The serjeants and his acquaintances who were there persuaded the girl not to appear, and kept her back, and persuaded her that as soon as he was discharged she should have a husband; and she, a silly girl, minded them more than me They kept her back, and this woman, who pretended to be his sister, proves now to be his lawful wife.

So he was discharged because you and your daughter did not appear? - He sent for me to the prison. I beat the girl in the street. I told her she should not go down to the prison, but the woman desired her to go, and said he was a-bed, and like to die, and she should lose her brother if she did not go; and she told her she would buy a ring and she should be married in Houndsditch, and they would make a gentlewoman of her at once.

I asked you a short question, was he discharged because you and your daughter did not appear? - For want of appearance.

How came you not to appear? - They told me I could be of no service without my girl, and the expence would be so much it would ruin me.

Perhaps the reason why you preferred your indictment at last was, because you found that other woman was his wife? - No; the reason I did it was, the child did not prove to be so much injured then as she did after; when it came to be proved she had the foul disease, I chose to see her righted. I went to Mr. Addington and Mr. Wright, they told me to indict them all three, and see them punished. Morris sent for me down to Bridewell to him; he drawed writings and gave her. When I found he was a married man, I threw the writings away. I searched and would not let my girl be married to a man who was married before. He sent for me into Bridewell. He said, mother, as I am going to have your daughter, I know you have been at great expence, will you take this money? I said no, I did not do it for benefit. He said will you let Patty have it? I said no, I do not do it for lucre of money, but to see my child righted. I said I would not take it. A young woman sat by me she said shall I take it? I said you may do as you please, but I will not take it. The other young woman had the ten shillings.

What was done with that ten shillings? - Four of it was spent amongst them; the other six I received for my loss of time.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron EYRE .

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-41
VerdictNot Guilty

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606. ELISABETH BRADLEY , widow , was indicted for stealing a silver watch, value 30 s. a steel watch-chain, value 4 d. a steel swivel seal mounted with base metal , value 2 d. and a steel watch-key, value 1 d. the property of Thomas Hanks , October 17th .


I am a plaisterer's labourer . On Tuesday last in the evening, after we left work, I went into a publick-house, the sign of the Coach and Horses, with my fellow-workmen, in Broughton-street, Berkeley-square. We drank a little beer, and I not being much used to drink, it got into my head; my partner came to the end of Broughton-street into Bond-street with me, there I met with the prisoner and another woman; they seeing me a little in liquor asked me, would I treat them with any thing? My partner left me, and they took me away to a cellar, a publick-house, the corner of Clifford-street; we drank one pot of beer; I had only the price of that pot, and twopence more; I paid for that pot, and was coming away, but the prisoner said she would be three half-pence to my twopence for another pot. They came along with me up the steps into the street; I was going towards home; they stood right before me, to stop me from going away; the other woman stood before the prisoner; she kept talking to me. I missed my watch out of my pocket. The prisoner made her escape directly. I took hold of the other woman who

was with her; we struggled all along Bond-street . I said I would hold her till the watch sat. A mob came round me and released the woman out of my hands; then they were both gone, and I was left alone in the street, and could find neither of them.

Was you a good deal in liquor? - I was a little.

Have you a perfect recollection of what passed, so as to be able to swear positively? - I have. There is a mark upon the seal, Wilkes's head. I called it Wilkes and Liberty; it is engraved the wrong side upwards on the seal.


I am a shoe-maker. On Tuesday night the prisoner came to a publick-house, which is a watering-house for hackney coachmen, the Black Horse, at Charing-cross, opposite the Mews-gate. She pulled out this watch and shewed it the man who waters the horses; she asked him to buy it. He said he had no money to buy it, may be I might buy it, pointing to me. She shewed it me, and asked me to buy it. I asked her how she came by it? She said she found it in the kennel. I said if she found it in a kennel it would have been dirty. The watch was going at the time. She said it was dirty, but she had washed it under a pump; I stopped her and the watch.

(The watch was produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutor.)


At the bottom of Pall-Mall a child of mine picked up this watch; she brought it to me at the door, and said, mama, here is something I found. I took it in my hand; I told a man of it, at the door, and asked what to do with the watch, whether I was to advertise it? He took it, and said he would take care of me and the watch too.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-42
VerdictGuilty > theft under 1s

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607. JOHN WELLS was indicted for stealing forty-six pounds of brass, value 23 s. the property of Timothy Walker , Oct. 9th .


I am a brass-founder in Great Wild-Street ; the prisoner worked for me; the brass was lost before I was up in the morning.


I saw the prisoner take a bag of brass out of my master's house on the 9th of October, in the morning; I followed him to a shop in St. Giles's. I saw him put it into a scale, and the weight put against it. I went into the shop, and asked him what he was doing there; he came to the door; I bid him take the bag of brass again; he said it did not belong to him; a boy in the shop said it did not belong to him; I bid him take it; he would not; I took the brass out of the scale myself and made him carry it back, and sent to Sir John Fielding 's for an officer, and he was secured.

Walker. It is old coach brass, I believe. It is a bag I had iron shanks out of the country in. I cannot swear to it. It was taken out of an hogshead of old brass. The hogshead was full. It appeared lower afterwards than it was before.

(The prisoner did not say any thing in his defence.)

GUILTY 10 d.

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron EYRE.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-43
VerdictNot Guilty

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608. CATHERINE ROMSEY was indicted for stealing five guineas, and two half guineas, in monies numbered , the property of Roger Knot , August 27th .


On the 27th of August I was in a publick-house, the Magpye, Holbourn-bridge, where I drank rather more than common. When I came out of the house, which was at about twelve o'clock at night, the wind took my head; I leaned my head against the pales where Mr. Langdale's house stood; the prisoner and another woman came up to me, and said they would see me home; they went with me past my house; I said we were past my house; they said, no , it was a little farther; they would see me safe.

Then you went past your own house without percieving it? - When they got me a little farther they took me into a house. I cried out immediately, This is not my house, I will not stay here. There was a candle burning; I made an attempt to come out; upon which the prisoner struck me on the stomach, and knocked me down; then she ran her hand into my left-hand breeches pocket, and took out five guineas and two half-guineas; the other woman began to strip me. I thought they were going to pull my clothes off and murder me. I got up directly; then Catherine Romsey put the money into her mouth. I heard the watchman going past, and I called him; he came. I told him I had been robbed; there were then three women in the house; the one was a servant; she was in the house when I went in; she was discharged before the justice. I desired the watchman to get the constable of the night, and I would endeavour to secure them till he came. When he was gone, Catherine Romsey said, D - mn your blood! I will run a knife into you, if you do not let me go. I had the candle in my hand; she snatched it away, put it out, and attempted to run away; but I held them both fast by their gowns till the watchman came back. When he was in the passage the other woman ran away. They took the prisoner, and the servant who was in the house, to the watch-house; the constable searched the prisoner, but found nothing upon her but some silver and a knife. When she was before the justice she said she hoped my eyes would be scratched out of my head.

Did she deny the charge? - Yes.

Was the prisoner ever out of your sight, after you lost the money, till she was taken to the watch-house? - No.

How do you know you had this money in your pocket? - I know I had it that afternoon I was burnt out by the fire; I took a walk in the afternoon, met with a friend, and went into the Magpye to drink.

When did you feel it in your pocket? - About an hour before; I took it out to pay my reckoning; I put it into my left-hand pocket, and buttoned it up.

When you was so much in liquor, as not to know your own house, how could you know the persons that went with you? - When I came into the house and saw a light, that frightened me so that my senses returned to me.


I was not there at the time he lost his money, I was gone out; there were two women in the room with him when I came in; I am innocent of it; when I was on my deathbed in New Prison I told the parson I was innocent of it.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

18th October 1780
Reference Numbert17801018-44
SentenceImprisonment; Imprisonment > hard labour

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609, 610, 611. THOMAS COLLINS , otherwise JONES , THOMAS ROBERTS , and AMBROSE SHEERS , were indicted, the first for wilful and corrupt perjury, and the other two for suborning the said Thomas Collins , otherwise Jones, the said perjury to do and commit .


I am deputy to Mr. Marshall, at the Bill of Middlesex-office, Clifford's-Inn. On the 4th of April last, Collins, and Roberts came together, late in the evening, after office hours, in Hillary vacation, to make an affidavit, and have a bill of Middlesex signed on that affidavit; I administered the oath to Collins; the affidavit was reduced to writing; this is it (producing it) I asked him if it was his hand-writing? He said it was. I asked if the contents were true? He said they were. Roberts appeared to me to be the attorney, but I did not ask him whether he was an attorney or not.

Did he sign any thing? - I did not see either of them sign any thing, I signed my name after it was sworn.

Have you any doubt these are the two men? - Not in the least.

(The affidavit read.)

Court. This affidavit appears to be the affidavit of Thomas Jones ? - Yes.

Do you know the man by sight who swore this affidavit? - It was the tall man in the middle. I have heard his real name is Collins.

Roberts appeared as an attorney, did he say or do any thing? - Yes; I told him he must pay expedition money because it was after office hours. Roberts hesitated, and said Jones was a poor man and could not well afford it.

Did he call him by the name of Jones? - I believe he did.

Afterwards Roberts paid it? - He did.

Roberts. Do not you remember exceeding well it was all the money he had in his pocket; that he paid the shilling out of his pocket; and you remarked it was a large sum of money to be owed to him? - I did. I remarked it was a large sum of money to be owed to such a man as that. He said it was a large sum, but that the defendant was able to pay it. I said it was a pity he was not willing. Collins said he would make him willing.

Roberts. Who paid the shilling he or me? - To the best of my knowledge you paid it; it was to you I directed my discourse.

Roberts. It was a publick business, I do not know that I did not pay it? - Whether Jones gave it to him, I do not know; I was within the desk; they were behind the rails.


I am one of the clerks to the under sheriff of Middlesex.

Did you make out a warrant upon this? - I did not make it out, it was made out in the office; this is the bill of Middlesex on which the warrant was granted (producing it).

Do you know who put the name of Parry upon it? - No we never grant a warrant without a bill of Middlesex.

Court. You say you know the warrant was made out, how do you know if you did not see it? - By the mark which is made on the bill as having a warrant made out; besides that, I saw the warrant.


I am bag-bearer and porter to the sheriff's office. Roberts, the attorney, as he pretended to be, knocked at the door with his knuckles a little before seven o'clock in the evening. The office is shut at six. When I opened the door he said, Mr. Thomas, cannot I have a warrant this evening? I told him no, he could not after the office was shut, without paying extra for it. He said he would pay any thing extra because the man he was going to arrest was going off, and he should lose the debt. He asked me then what the warrant would come to? I said half-a-crown if it was a common bill of Middlesex. He said it was. He said he would go to the Apple-tree ale-house , in Cursitor-street; that his clients were there, and would let them know and get the money, for he had not the money with him. I told him he must make haste because we had but one gentleman in the office who signed warrants, and he would be gone. He came back directly with the half-crown in his hand to have the warrant made out. I let him into the office.

Did you see him get the warrant? - I carried it to the Apple-tree to him. Mr. Cater signed the warrant at that time; he gave him the writ and paid the money and went away, and desired me to carry it to the Apple-tree ale-house to him.

To Mr. Burchell. Who has the writ? - It has been in my custody ever since; we file them regularly in the office.

Mr. Thomas. Mr. Cater filled up the warrant, and when he came to look on the back of the bill for the indorsement, there was no sum nor date, there was only T. Parry, I think on the back of it.

To Mr. Burchell. T. Parry is endorsed on the back where the attorney's name is usually endorsed? - It is.

Mr. Thomas. Mr. Cater looked at the two shillings and sixpence, one of the shillings was bad. He said there is no endorsement on the back, take the half-crown back to the gentleman at the Apple-tree, and the gentleman must go without it, I cannot stay any longer. I took it back with the half-crown, and said Mr. Cater could not stay any longer, he could not have it done. He said, for God's sake let me have it done, for we shall lose the debt, you shall have a good shilling in a minute. He told Shears he must give him a good shilling for the bad one.

Shears gave it him, and then he gave me the two shillings and sixpence. He called for a pen and ink to write the endorsement. Roberts was very drunk when he wrote that endorsement on the back. I saw him write it, and then we came back together for the warrant.

Was he in liquor when he first came to you? - Very much both times. Mr. Cater asked him what officer he was to have it made to; he said Armstrong. He was told Armstrong was gone to Ireland. He said he had an order from his clients not to put Clipson's name to it, but he might put it; it would do. He told me then as soon as he had got the warrant I should go down to the Apple-tree to produce the warrant, and tell them he had paid the half-crown, else they would think he had sunk it. When I got the warrant I went down to the Apple-tree ale-house , Roberts was sitting at the door waiting for me; he desired me to come in and said I will shew you the person you are to give the warrant to, he is one of my clients. When I went in, he pointed to Shears, and said, there give it to him. I could not see his face then for his hat was flapped over his eyes, and Collins's hat was the same; they were both sitting down by the fire; it was rather dark. I gave it to Shears. The boy brought a candle in for them to look at it. He desired the boy to take the candle away for they did not want any candle at all. When Shears looked up and told the boy to take the candle away, I saw his face and knew him; he had been at the office before to offer himself for an officer. He took the warrant and stooped down by the fire side and read it by the light of the fire to Jones; then he said well, now you think this will do, this is all right.

What name did he call the tall man by when he mentioned him? - He did not mention any name, but said it will do. Jones made answer, "I don't know, you know best, if you think it is right; I suppose it is all right; I shall leave it to you."

Did you know any thing of these men before? - Yes, Shears came to offer himself as an officer; I had seen Roberts before.

Court. Have you any doubt whether any or all of these men were at the Apple-tree? - They were all there.

You have no doubt as to the person of either of them? - No, I am sure of it.

Shears. At what time was the warrant made out? - I carried it to the Apple-tree a little before seven o'clock on the 4th of April.

Was it not day-light then? - Not where they sat, they sat by the fire.

Jones. Do you think I was in liquor when you saw me at the Apple-tree? - I do not know; he hung down his head more than either of the other men.

Jones. Do you know whether I was asleep or awake at the time? - I know you was awake, I saw your eyes open.

Roberts. Whether I was not very anxious to have Armstrong's name to it? - Armstrong was the person whose name was pitched upon to be put to the warrant.


I was an officer to the sheriff of Middlesex when this matter happened; I made the arrest; the warrant was left at my house with directions pinned to it.

In whose hand-writing? - I believe it is Shear's, it is very much like his hand-writing.

Have you seen him write? - Yes; I believe it is his writing.

(The warrant read.)

(The direction read, which was literally as followeth.)

" Joseph Robson , wine-merchant , in Coventry-street,

"in the Hay-market, a short

"thick man, a fat man, a short fat, fat man."

Did you know Shears before? - Yes.

Did you know Roberts before? - I did not.

Did you know Collins before? - Yes.

What name did you know him by? - By the name of Collins.

Did you know him by the name of Jones? - No. When Shears was an officer in the Marshalsea-court I knew Collins then. The warrant was brought to me by one Young, in the morning early; I hesitated a little before I went. I never saw any of the prisoners about this business.

Shears. He never saw me write in his life?

- I have seen him write I suppose an hundred times, and a hundred to that.

Court. How did Collins get his livelihood? - I do not know; I have heard he was a man of property at one time; I do not know it. The reason of my executing this warrant was on the strength of knowing Jones in Oxford-road; I thought he might be capable of giving such credit.

Court. Is there such a man as Thomas Jones in Oxford-road? - Yes. I asked where Mr. Jones lived? I was told it was Mr. Jones of Oxford-road. They desired I would get up and execute the warrant as Mr. Robson was going out of town.

Court. What is Mr. Jones in Oxford-road? - A linen-draper.

Roberts. You never saw me before in your life? - Not that I know of.

(Mr. Robert Griffith , attorney for Mr. Robson produced a copy of the record of the non pros. of that action, at the suit of Jones, which was read.)


I am a wine merchant in Coventry-street. On the 5th of April I was arrested for eleven hundred pounds, at the suit of one Thomas Jones .

Was you indebted to that plaintiff, or to any person of the name of Jones, in the sum of eleven hundred pounds? - Not to any one of that name, not a shilling; I do not know any person of that name, but one in Oxford-road, and he is indebted to me; to him I am not indebted, nor ever was. I saw Roberts three or four days after at Hicks's-hall, acting as an attorney, he was taken up by Clipson on my application and carried before a magistrate. He said before the magistrate he was an attorney, and had done what was right, and to shew his innocence he would produce the plaintiff, or to that effect. He said his name was Roberts, and that he officiated for some person of the name of Parry, who was a gentleman in the town of Danby , sollicitor for the government there. I understood that he was his clerk, and Parry had given him authority to use his name.

He admitted that he put the name T. Parry on the writ? - He did. In consequence of his information Jones was taken into custody. The constables went after him and brought him to the tavern where we waited. Upon my seeing Jones or Collins, I asked him if he knew me? He said no, but he supposed I might be the defendant. He said he was very sorry for what he had done, and exclaimed in the most poignant manner against Shears, who he said had taken him in.

Court. You must not relate any thing he said relative to Shears or Roberts , except they were present? - Roberts was present I believe; but I am certain. Previous to my having seen Roberts and Collins I should have mentioned that I saw Shears; I took Mr. Berry, the attorney along with me to Cock-lane, where it was said Shears, the timber-merchant, lived, and I found him at home.

When was that? - The day of the arrest.

How did you get discharged from the arrest? - I put in bail immediately. I was not taken out of the counting-house.

What passed between Shears and you? - I must rather relate a conversation between another person and him in my presence: the attorney, Mr. Berry, of Meard's-street, Soho, asked him if he had not given a writ , or which way he came by the writ that was given to Clipson? To which he replied, that writ was left at his house by a stranger.

He asked him how he came by the writ against you? - Yes. Shears said, what is there any thing amiss? Mr. Berry gave him to understand there was, and asked him how he came to get possession of the writ? He said that having been an officer in the Marshalsea-court , it was not generally known, but he was one yet. Mr. Berry gave him to understand that if he could find the party out and give him notice about it that he should be rewarded for it. He promised he would, and that he would see the man that night.

Court. You must not relate what he said after that promise of reward.

You do not recollect what Collins said to you? - I have it under his hand, and in several ways acknowledging his guilt. When they were before Justice Addington or Justice Wright, Roberts said he wished to be understood not to have any knowledge of Collins, but only by the name

of Jones. Collins insisted upon it, that he knew him very well, and gave me this paper (producing it) to shew me what a rascal Roberts was; it is a paper of Robert's handwriting, to shew that he knew that his name was Collins.

Do you know it to be his hand-writing? - I believe so; there is a person who will prove it.

When it was shewn to Roberts, did Roberts acknowledge it to be his hand-writing? - No, he did not.

Roberts. Did you ever shew it me at all? - No; from the first moment he was apprehended, he said he was made the tool of Roberts and Shears; that they knew what he was about, but he did not know himself.

Did he say that in their presence? - In the presence of Roberts.

What did Roberts say to that? - I do not recollect; I know nothing more but apprehending of Collins at Guildsord , after he was discharged on account of not being indicted.


Do you know the prisoner Roberts? - Yes.

Have you had occasion to see him write? - Yes; and I have seen a great deal of his writing.

Do you believe that to be his hand-writing? - I do. (It is read.)

"No. 19, Seacoal-lane,

"Snow-hill, to N. D. see Mr.

"Collins on some business; Mr. Thomas Rawlins ,

"Red lion-alley, Newgate-market;

"Roberts, at chambers, Barnard's

"Inn." It was a memorandum for Collins to meet Roberts on this business.

Where did Roberts live? - No. 19, Seacoal-lane; he was found there when he was taken up.

There is no date to this paper?

Mr. Robson. He gave it to me on the 7th of April.

Roberts to Mr. Robson. I believe the first time you saw me was at Hicks's Hall, on the 7th of April? - Yes; I do not know that I ever saw you in my life before.

Roberts. Whether he saw any temerity or fear in me, such as guilt would produce? - I think I did.

How came Jones to be called Collins? who mentioned the name first? - Upon applying to the Middlesex Office, I had a description of Jones and Roberts; I went to the Prothonotary's Office , to enquire if they knew any such person as had been described to me. One of the Marshalsea officers said,

"Good God! that must be Collins and red-faced Roberts." On requesting of the Prothonotary to know if Collins had made any affidavits in their office, he said he had. I begged to see the affidavits. He took down the file and shewed me, and on comparing the hand-writing -

Court. You must not mention that.

Roberts. When I was taken to Litchfield-street, Clipson was treated indignantly there, and kicked out of the office; they would not take his oath.

Court. If you mean to impeach the character of Clipson as a witness, you must not examine any witnesses to what other people said, but call the persons who said it.

Roberts. When you and I parted at the end of Bow-street, did not you give me a direction to your attorney? - Probably I might, I do not recollect.

Did not you desire me to ask Jones how or wherefore he formed this conspiracy? - I think it is very likely; I do not remember it. I rather think I did.

Roberts. Did not you promise to reward me if I found it out? - Probably I might, I wished very much to investigate it to the bottom.

Court. Did you offer this man any reward? - I was very wary what I said, I thought some of the persons would turn cat-in-pan, and tell their employers.

Did you offer him any reward if he made any discovery? - I believe I did.

Did he make any discovery? - Never any.

Roberts. I did make a discovery, I sent him a letter, and he called twice at my lodgings in consequence of it? - No, I did not.

Roberts. Consider what a situation I am in here for subornation of perjury, for God's sake do not be guilty of it yourself. Did you receive a letter from me? - More than one.

Roberts. You know my hand-writing I

suppose whether it is similar to the letter you have produced?

Court. He does not know that the letters come from you.

Roberts. I gave him an account in writing according to his own desire, and made every discovery that was in my power.

Court. Did you in consequence of any information received from the prisoner, make any enquiry, and did that enquiry lead to any discovery? - I have never been able to make any discovery from any information I have received as yet.

Did it lead to any enquiry or discovery? - None but what would have come out without it,

Did that information prove to be true? - No.

Roberts. Your counsel says there was a conspiracy against you, I wish to know if you could find any traces that I was concerned with those parties? - I do not know that there were any conspirators besides these parties.

Roberts. Whether we were acquainted? - I have every reason to believe you did know both the other prisoners; Sheers and he were acquainted.

Roberts. Did not you call twice at my lodgings? - I think I was twice at his lodgings; I never had any interview with him.

Roberts. Do you bear the expence of this prosecution?

Counsel. It is nothing to you whether he does or not? - I am a member of a society; we have certain rules by which we engage to each other in certain cases to be at a common expence; I expect this will be at the common expence.

Roberts. Very well, I much admire it and think it is a very good one! Did you ever see Mr. Murrell, a constable at Islington, who had me in custody , while I was seeking after Jones? - I think the last time I saw him was the night this indictment was found.

You saw him at Islington? - I think I saw him once at Islington.

Did not you tell him I had done every thing in my power? - I do not recollect; when he was apprehended I did not know but he might have been deceived.

Court. Do you recollect whether you said so? - I rather think I did not; I think my ideas at that time were very well fixed.

Roberts. You said in your evidence that I gave you directions where Jones was to be found? - You did.

Where was it? - You went along with the constable.

Roberts. I repeat the question again, where I gave the direction to find Jones? - All I know is, that he offered to take him to the plaintiff, and the constable , and he, and I do not know whether Clipson did not go; several persons went together, but I was not present.

Roberts. I should be glad to ask Storey a question. When did you see me write? -

Storey. In Mr. Robson's counting-house, on the side of the desk I write on.

Mr. MOYSON sworn.

I believe you was present and heard some of the prisoner speak of this transaction? - Mr. Robson is a member of the society I am a member of, he came on Wednesday night and complained of this matter, we agreed to prosecute if we could find the persons. I was present when Roberts gave the directions to find Collins; that was before Justice Blackborough in Clerkenwell; he said he would go with the constables to the plaintiff. He said he could find him. We desired that if they found him they would come to the Jerusalem tavern , Clerkenwell, and we would be at the tavern to see them. Neither Mr. Robson nor I went with them. We went to the Mansion-house to hear the the examination before Mr. Alderman Kitchen; on our return we found Roberts, constable, and Collins together at the Jerusalem tavern. When Mr. Robson came in he went up to Collins, or nearly to him, and asked Collins if he knew him? Collins said he did not know him; but he said I suppose you are the defendant. Roberts and he were close together. Mr. Robson then asked him if he owed him any thing? Collins said no, he did not. Mr. Robson then asked him if he had not sworn to that debt of eleven hundred pounds , by the name of Thomas Jones ? He said he had, and that he had done it at the instigation of Sheers.

Was Sheers present? - He was not present. And that he was to pay him some trifle for it, but that they had made a tool of him.

Did he say any thing of Roberts? - I do not know that he did; Mr. Robson said how could you go to swear to this debt of eleven hundred pounds against me? He said, you do not owe me that, or any.


I am clerk to the deputy prothonotary of the Marshalsea-court. I know all the prisoners.

Did you ever know Collins by the name of Jones? - Never.

Have you seen these men frequently together? - No, I never recollect seeing any two of them together. Roberts has been frequently at our office about business, but I never saw either of the others with him.

Do you know Collins? - Yes, I have seen him frequently at our office applying for writs. He swore an affidavit before me to the service of a copy of a writ for the proceedings to be set aside, which was never served; he swore it by the name of Thomas Collins .


All I have to say is, I was entirely innocent in the matter; I did not intend to injure Mr. Robson; I told him I would endeavour to give him every information in my power. I never intended to prejudice or hurt him. Sheers said it was only to do a friendly action for him, it was only to lock up a person for an hour, that no harm would come of it. I did do it I acknowledge. I am very infirm, I hope it will not affect my life.


I am not guilty wilfully or intentionally. If they have deceived me I cannot help it. I had no malice against Robson. There is no evidence that I ever received a farthing for it. To my sh ame I was much in liquor at the time. I gave every information I could; I gave directions for the constable to find out Jones. I went to two different houses in the court, but could not find him. At last we found him at No. 8. The girl said that he went out at six in the morning. I went into the garrett and found him in his shirt hid in the chimney; I pulled him out. I gave Mr. Robson every information I could. I have been arrested for fifteen hundred pounds; but I did not blame the attorney, when I found it was a mistake.


I have nothing to say. I should be glad to ask Mr. Robson a question or two: What he said when he came to me in the King's Bench, some time after these people were taken up?

Mr. Robson. I believe I asked Sheers if he had made a full discovery of the other conspirators, and who it was that employed him? To which I think he gave me some strange answer, very unsatisfactory; that he would not squeak, or something of that kind, and that I had ruined him.

Shears to Clipson. You know I was a Marshalsea-court officer; whether it was not usual to share the profit?

Clipson. Yes, it was; I have executed several writs he brought in, in the Marshalsea-court, and the Sheriff's-court too; I used always to allow him half the profit.

Roberts. I should be glad to ask you one question respecting that note given to his lordship, if you do not know whose handwriting it is. (It is shewn him.)

Court. Did you ever see Roberts write? - Not to my knowledge.

Do you know whose hand-writing that is? - I do not.

Roberts. He swore to it before? - I never saw it before to my knowledge.

For Roberts.


I have known Roberts eight or nine years; he follows the occupation of an attorney.

What character has he borne? - An exceeding great one; as far as I have ever heard or experienced a very good character; a very just, conscientious man. I believe him to be an enemy to no body but himself. He has made it his practice, as he lives among very low people, to help other people more than he has helped himself.

Jury. What are you? - Porter to Mr. Peach, in Bread-street; I am servant to Mr. Fletcher.

Are you in his service now? - No, I am here now.

You understand my question; are you in his service now? - Yes, every day, when I am in his labour.

What do you do for him? - I load and unload, pack and repack silk, and carry money out and bring money in.

Cross Examination.

You said you was servant to Mr. Fletcher? - Yes; Mr. Fletcher is Mr. Peach's clerk; he pays me my wages; I am a ticket-porter; I have done nothing for any body but Mr. Peach and his family a great many years.

You are not a lawyer or writer? - No.

Court. What is the reason of your knowing Roberts so much in his profession? - I had a matter in hand eight or nine years ago; he undertook it, and went through it very judiciously; he gives his total labour away almost to serve other people.

Counsel. I suppose then he is a gentleman of fortune, and practices law for his diversion? - He has been in prison these four months; the distress he has been in would make the stoutest heart in this court to melt.

Are you sober? - Really, verily, and truely.


I keep the Queen's-Head, a publick-house, in Cold-bath-fields; I have known Roberts four or five years; he is an attorney, or acts under an attorney in the law; he has a good character, as far as I know of him; but I know but little of him.

Roberts. I will call Mr. Kirby , the keeper of the Compter, to prove I was the only person that refused to take the advantage of being released by the mob; he has known me three or four years.


I am servant to Mr. Kirby; I have known Roberts, being a prisoner at our house, backwards and forwards, two years; I never knew a good character of him; at the time of the riot he was locked up, and could not get out.

All Three GUILTY .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Collins:Imprisonment. See summary.]

[Roberts Shears:Imprisonment. See summary.]

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VerdictNot Guilty

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The TRIALS being ended, the Court proceeded to give Judgement as followeth.

Received sentence of death, eight.

Robert Hill, Ann Lavender , Richard Brown , James Johnson , Richard Hapgood , Margaret M'Locklin , Mary Allen , George Bishop .

Navigation five years, two.

Thomas Roberts , and Ambrose Shears .

Whipped and imprisoned two years , two.

William Jenkins , and Maria Ann Doone.

Whipped and imprisoned twelve months, one.

Mary Smith .

Whipped and imprisoned six months, one.

Eleanor Anslow .

Imprisoned five years, one.

Thomas Collins .

Fined one shilling and sent to serve his Majesty , one.

Thomas Henderson .

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