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23rd February 1780
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THE WHOLE PROCEEDINGS ON THE KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON; AND ALSO, The Gaol Delivery for the County of MIDDLESEX; HELD AT JUSTICE HALL in the OLD BAILEY, On Wednesday the 23d of February, 1780, and the following Days;


TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND BY JOSEPH GURNEY , And Published by Authority.



Printed for JOSEPH GURNEY (the PROPRIETOR) And Sold by M. GURNEY, No. 34, Bell-yard, near Temple-Bar,



KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON, &c.

BEFORE the Right Honourable BRACKLEY KENNET, LORD MAYOR of the City of London; The Honourable Sir RICHARD PERRYN , Knt. one of the Barons of his Majesty's Court of Exchequer; The Honourable FRANCIS BULLER , one of the Justices of his Majesty's Court of King's Bench; Mr. Serjeant ADAIR, Recorder; and others his Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer of the City of London and Justices of the Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City and County of Middlesex.

London Jury.

William Ghrimes

Edward Norman

Samuel Coales

Robert Crighton

Thomas Stimson

William Goff

Joseph George

Samuel Banks

Roger Haselwood

Elijah Gilliard

Solomon Norman

Thomas Lamer .

First Middlesex Jury.

John White

James Lamb

Joseph Hobbs

Joseph Babb

Thomas Smith

James Fitzgerald

Robert Sudlow

Hugh Jones

William Caswell

Richard Carr

Richard Beck

George Groom .

Second Middlesex Jury.

William Seymour

John Cockran

John Godfrey

William Sherman

William Sacheverel

John Rich

John Abrahams

William Burgess

Job Tristram

William Jacobs

Daniel Barnes

Thomas Tupp .

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-1
VerdictGuilty > lesser offence
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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84. ANN THORNTON , spinster , was indicted for stealing a pair of leather pumps, value 3 s. two pair of men's leather shoes, value 12 s. two leather shoes, value 6 s. and one stuff shoe, value 2 s. the property of James Belcher Ball , privately and secretly in the shop of the said James , December 16th .


I am a shoe-maker , and live at Kensington . The prisoner came into my shop on the 16th of December to enquire after a pair of shoes which she had before bespoke. I happened to step up stairs upon some business, and upon my return I perceived that a pair of leather pumps which hung upon some hooks

in my shop to dry were missing; I followed her out of the shop and asked her if she had not taken the pumps; she said, how could I think any such thing as that? and she wished God Almighty might strike her dead if she had any such thing. I took her back to the shop, and said I would send for a constable.

Did you at that time miss any thing besides these pumps? - Not at that time; I had missed a great number of shoes before that. When I threatened to send for a constable, the prisoner took the pumps out of her pocket and begged I would forgive her; I told her she had robbed me of a great quantity of goods, and I was determined to punish her. Then she confessed that she had pawned in Oxford-street, two pair of men's shoes which she had stolen from me. She likewise confessed selling two pair of shoes and two odd ones; the fellows to which odd shoes a woman purchased of me afterwards. The next morning the officer and I went and searched the prisoner's lodging; I found a shoe upon the foot of the prisoner's sister.


I keep a clothes shop at Knightsbridge. The prisoner brought a pair of shoes and two odd shoes to my shop, and asked me to buy them; I scrupled buying them on account of two of the shoes being odd ones.

Did not you enquire from that circumstance how she came by them? - Yes; she said her father was ill in the hospital, and starving for want of necessaries; that he had taken a shop at Kensington Gravel-pits, and that the two odd ones were fellows to two shoes her father had sold in mistake; and as soon as her father got better she said he should make two shoes to match them. I gave her 4 s. for the four shoes.

What is the fair value of those shoes? - I cannot tell. I sell a great many shoes and odd kind of things old and new.

To the Prosecutor. What is the value of the shoes? - One pair seven shillings, and the other, to the best of my remembrance, seven shillings and sixpence; they were bespoke work. This woman has four small children, and therefore I did not prosecute her.

Court to Reynolds. I hope you have not many such dealings as these? - I never bought any such before.

Court. If there were not such people as you there would be fewer thieves.

Have you the shoes here which you purchased of the prisoner? - There are the two odd shoes (producing them) I had of the prisoner; I sold the pair of shoes for four shillings.


I am a pawnbroker, and live at No. 180 Oxford-street. Here are two pair of men's shoes, one pair I took in pawn of the prisoner on the 11th, the other pair my wife took of her on the 8th. We lent her four shillings upon them.

Had you any knowledge of her? - I never saw her before; she said her father was a shoemaker.

(They were produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutor.)


I am a peace officer at Kensington. Ball came to my house on the 16th of December, he had a pair of shoes in his hand; and the prisoner confessed she had stolen them. These are the shoes (producing them) which Mr. Ball put into my hand. (They were likewise deposed to by the prosecutor.) I refused to receive them of Ball till she said she had taken them from Mr. Ball, and she hoped he would forgive her. The next day I went and searched her lodging, and found this odd shoe upon her sister's foot.

(It was produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutor.)


Mr. Ball promised to forgive me if I would tell where the things were; and he had his shoes again.

To Mr. Ball. Did you make her any promise? - She strongly wanted to prevail upon me to forgive her; I always made answer to such importunities, that as she had

robbed me of a great quantity of shoes I certainly would punish her.

GUILTY of stealing the goods but not guilty of stealing them privately in the shop .

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. BARON PERRYN .

[Whipping. See summary.] [Imprisonment. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-2
VerdictGuilty > pleaded guilty; Not Guilty
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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85, 86, 87. JOHN BAILEY , WILLIAM CUTLER , and THOMAS BRAY otherwise RELLY , were indicted for stealing a silver cream-pot, value 12 s. and three silver tea-spoons, value 6 s. the property of William Lane , gentleman , January 22d .

(When Cutler was arraigned, he said that the other two prisoners were entirely innocent, and he pleaded guilty to the indictment.)


On the 22d of January I lost a silver cream pot and three silver spoons. I know nothing of the fact.


On the 22d of January last, as I was going into Mr. Burche's office, at the bottom of Boswell-court , opposite Mr. Lane's, about a quarter before ten o'clock in the morning, I saw the two prisoners coming up the court; I then saw Cutler come out of Mr. Lane's.

That is the person that has pleaded guilty? - Yes. A woman standing in the court said, whatever that man had got he had stolen it. I went to lay hold of him, but having my gloves on he slipped out of my hands and got from me. I followed him and took him by Serle's-court; he had thrown the things out of his hand.

Did you see him throw them out of his hand? - Yes.

Do you know any thing to affect the two prisoners? - No further than seeing them in the court.


On the 22d of January I was going through Boswell-court in the morning at about ten o'clock, I saw three young men coming out of the court; one of them left the other two and went into Mr. Lane's; the door was a-jar; I staid till he came out.

Are the prisoners either of the persons? - I believe they are; I cannot say, I saw Cutler come out.

JOHN EYRE sworn.

I am servant to Mr. Lane. I know no more of the prisoners than seeing them at Sir John Fielding 's.


I know nothing but seeing the two young men in Holbourn that afternoon.

(There being no evidence to affect the prisoners, they were not put on their Defence.)


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. BARON PERRYN .

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-3
VerdictNot Guilty

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88. HENRY BARNETT was indicted for stealing a leather trunk, value 5 s. four linen stocks, value 6 s. three dimity waistcoats, value 30 s. a pair of dimity breeches, value 10 s. a pair of black silk stockings, value 5 s. three pair of thread stockings, value 6 s. and a pair of men's leather shoes, value 2 s. the property of Edward Howorth , Esq . February 3d .

EDWARD HOWORTH , Esq. sworn.

On Thursday evening, the 3d of February, passing along Piccadilly , I missed a trunk which was fastened before my chaise. I went to Sir John Fielding 's and got information of it; and I saw some of my things at Sir John Fielding 's the next morning.

When did you see the trunk in Piccadilly? - I think opposite James-street; I am certain I saw it after I passed Hyde-Park-corner.

Did you find any of your things again? - Most of them.

What had you in the trunk? - I cannot recollect particularly, there were stockings, breeches, and a number of things.

How many pair of silk stockings? - I believe six or seven pair.

Any breeches or waistcoats? - Yes; I do not recollect how many, two or three pair of each I believe.

Any shirts or stocks? - Six or seven,

hey were in the trunk at the time; it was fastened with two leather straps.

Did you stop at all? - No, unless a little at the turnpike. I missed the trunk between St. James's-street and the Hay-market. Upon missing it I immediately stopped the chaise. The straps which fastened the trunk were cut.

Did you see the prisoner near the chaise? - No.

Had the carriage been stopped by others? - No.


(He produced the wearing apparel mentioned in the indictment.)

Prosecutor. These things are mine, my name is upon most of them, they were in the trunk.

Carpmeal. I found these things in Barnett's house in Mulberry-street, near Mulberry-court, Coleman-street, about an hour after Mr. Howorth lost them.

Did you find any thing else? - Yes, an uniform coat, waistcoat, and breechees, which the justice gave up to Mr. Howorth. When we went in Barnett was not at home; in about ten minutes Barnett knocked at the door; I laid hold of him and brought him in; his shoes and stockings were very dirty; I asked him if he had any thing in his house; he said no, nothing but his own; I opened the drawers and found a stock with Mr. Howorth's name on it, and I found the coat, waistcoat, and breeches in an handkerchief. He then said somebody had left them there, for he knew nothing of them, and asked his mother and sister who left them; after that he said the persons who cut the trunk off were at a house at Temple-bar, if I would go and see for them. I thought there was no truth in that. I took the prisoner to Sir John Fielding 's.

What part of the house did he lodge in? - He keeps the house; there are no lodgers in the house.


I went to see my children who are out at nurse; I staid there from four till eight o'clock at night; when I came home I found Carpmeal in the house. The things were brought while I was out. I am innocent of the affair. I was cruelly used when I was taken to Sir John Fielding 's. I have witnesses to prove that I was not at home at the time.

To Carpmeal. How came you to go to the prisoner's house? - When we have an information we go to the house of the people who receive these things; we know pretty well who are concerned together.

To Mr. Howorth. At what time did you lose these things? - I believe between six and seven o'clock.

For the Prisoner.


On the 3d of this month I was informed that my grandmother was not well. As I passed by the prisoner's I called in to know how she did; just as I was coming out of the house, which was about eight o'clock at night, three men came in with some things and asked if Mr. Barnett was at home.

Did you see what they had brought? - No, they had something under their arms; I did not see what it was.

Was Barnett at home? - No.

Was it a bundle, or box, or what? - I did not take any particular notice what it was; as I thought it was no business of mine I did not enquire. I went away that instant as they went in. I heard them ask if Barnett was at home.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-4
VerdictGuilty > theft under 40s
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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89. JOHN BOOKER was indicted for stealing in the dwelling-house of John Walsh , Esq . a pair of gold shoe-buckles, value 6 l. a pair of gold knee-buckles, value 40 s. twelve pair of worsted socks, value 6 s. thirteen pair of cotton socks, value 16 s. 6 d. thirteen pair of worsted stockings, value 26 s. twelve pair of thread stockings, value 24 s. three pair of silk stockings, value 30 s. two dimity quilted waistcoats, value 6 s. a woollen cloth coat, value 40 s. three yards of woollen cloth, value 42 s. three yards of baize, value 2 s. three pair of men's leather gloves, value 6 s.

a printed book bound in leather, value 1 s. one other printed book bound in leather, value 1 s. one other printed book bound in leather, value 1 s. the property of John Walsh , Esq . January 18th .

(The witnesses were examined apart at the request of the prisoner.)


I am clerk to Mr. Walsh, who is member of Parliament for Worcester .

Do you remember any things being stolen from Mr. Walsh's house in January last? - Yes. Upon the buckles being missing I went the next day to the prisoner's lodgings.

Give an account how the things were missed? - Mr. Walsh missed the gold knee-buckles on the morning of Thursday the 20th of January, and some circumstances led us to suspect the prisoner. I went the next day to the prisoner's lodgings, which were in Duke-street. The prisoner had lived servant with Mr. Walsh; he left the house on the evening of Tuesday the 18th. In his trunk we found all the things mentioned in the indictment, except the coat and the buckles, they were tied up in the blue baize.

Did you take a constable with you? - Yes, and the other witnesses were with me. These are the things (producing them.)

Do you know them sufficiently to speak to the property? - I can speak to those of them which have Mr. Walsh's mark upon them. Here are three books which have Mr. Walsh's arms pasted on them. There is no mark on those stockings, but Mr. Walsh's stockings are exactly of the same sort.

What number is there of the stockings? - Fifteen pair of worsted under stockings.

These stockings appear to be new? - They have never been worn. I know Mr. Walsh had such a number of new stockings, which resembled these, and those stockings were missing. Here are twelve pair of thread stockings marked with Mr. Walsh's initials; they are Mr. Walsh's property. Here are a pair of mottled stockings which are Mr. Walsh's; I remember them perfectly well. Here are thirteen pair of cotton stockings and two quilted dimity waistcoats, which are my master's. I know my master had such a piece of woollen cloth as this, it matches to the piece which is left behind.

Is the piece of baize they were wrapped in your master's property? - I cannot say.

Was the prisoner present when you searched? - He was not, he was taken up the day before.

How long before these things were missing had you seen them in the house? - They had been in the prisoner's charge; they were delivered by him to Thomas Ingram , the person who succeeded him, as Ingram told me.

Cross Examination.

You are clerk to Mr. Walsh? - Yes.

Have you been long in that service? - About seven years.

The prisoner was valet to Mr. Walsh? - He was.

When was he discharged? - Mr. Walsh discharged him on the 4th; the receipt for his wages bears date the 10th of January.

On what day did he leave the house? - On the 18th.

Did he leave his trunk behind him? - No, he took it away with him.

Do you of your own knowledge know when the things mentioned in the indictment were missed? - No.

Do you know that they were missed? - I know the buckles were missed on the 20th.

Who went with you to the prisoner's lodgings? - Ingram and the constable.

You say the three books have Mr. Walsh's arms on them? - Yes.

If they had not had those arms in them you would not have known them? - No.

You not being a servant about the person of Mr. Walsh, I suppose you cannot know much of these things? - I deliver over the things to the valets.

The stockings have some a W. and some an I upon them? - They have.

If there were others there of the same kind I imagine you could not tell which were Mr. Walsh's? - I could not tell.


You came into Mr. Walsh's service as his valet de chambre immediately after the prisoner? - I did.

When did you enter into Mr. Walsh's service? - On the 2d of January.

When was the prisoner discharged from his service? - I think he was ordered to be discharged on the Tuesday, but he was to come on the Sunday following to dress Mr. Walsh's wigs, to put me in the method of it.

Were Mr. Walsh's things delivered into your charge? - The inventory was looked over and the things delivered into my charge on Monday and Tuesday the 3d and 4th.

There was a written inventory was there? - Yes, there was a written inventory in the prisoner's own hand-writing; I have it not here.

Robert Gibson . This is the inventory (producing it).

Is that the inventory which was delivered to you by the prisoner? - It is; here are some marks which I made upon it.

Are the things that were lost contained in that inventory? - Yes, except the woollen stockings, the socks, and the cloth.

Were the things which are in that inventory, and, among the rest, the things produced there, delivered to you by the prisoner? - They were.

Were any such things as the woollen stockings, the cloth, and the socks delivered to you by the prisoner? - There was cloth of this kind delivered to me by the prisoner, but that was not in the inventory; I cannot swear to that, it has been out of my possession; it is like the cloth which was delivered to me. Nor can I swear to the other things, except the coat, that I can swear to, because I put my mark upon it, as they have been out of my possession. Mr. Walsh had things like these.

When the things were delivered into your care, where did you keep them? - In Mr. Walsh's dressing-room. The stockings were in the drawers, the waistcoats and this coat were in the clothes press, which I kept locked.

When did you first miss these things? - On Thursday the 20th of January. Mr. Walsh in the morning missed a penknife out of a drawer; he rang his bell and asked me if I knew any thing of his penknife; I said I supposed it was in the drawer of his dressing-table; upon searching for the knife Mr. Walsh looked into the drawer of the bureau, where the gold shoe and knee-buckles were kept, and missed the buckles; he desired me to bring him the inventory of the things; he looked it over, and then bid me bring him his gold shoe and knee-buckles; I went to the drawer, but could not find them; as the were not in wear I had put them into the same drawer in which they used to be kept. When they were delivered to me I locked the drawer and kept the key. I cannot say it was always locked; I had frequent occasion to go to that drawer more than others, and as one key opened them all I might have left that drawer open. When I could give no account of the buckles, Mr. Walsh ordered all the servants up into the room together. The prisoner was gone then. We were all searched, and nothing was found. As the prisoner had been in the house till the 18th, the footman William Flint and I went to his lodgings to ask him if he knew any thing about them. We saw the prisoner.

Had you looked over the inventory to see if any thing else was missing? - We did not suspect any thing else was missing at that time. When we got to the door of the prisoner's lodging the prisoner came out and said we could not go in, because he had got somebody there; I asked him to go down stairs with us; when we came down stairs I told him a disagreeable thing had happened among us; I asked him what he had done with the gold buckles when he delivered the inventory; he said he put them in the drawer again; he said he would go and speak to Mr. Walsh; I told him that was of no use unless he could tell where the buckles were; I said we had been searched, and we were sent to search his effects; he said we might search his things with all his heart; he said he would go up stairs, and he desired we would not come up, as he had somebody there, and he would come down as soon as he could; he ran up stairs, and we followed him immediately, I opened the door and saw him at the bed; he seemed to be in some confusion. We went to the bed; it was turned down, and there we

found this coat; as soon as I saw the coat under the pillow, I said here is one of Mr. Walsh's coats; he said no it is not; I took it up and opened it, I then said this is Mr. Walsh's coat, is it not? He said yes, take it and tie it up in a handkerchief and carry it home; I said, Mr. Booker, this is a disagreeable affair, you knew I must be answerable for all these things, I shall be obliged to you if you could inform me where the buckles are. He looked very much confused; he said I tell you what, Mr. Ingram, if you will promise not to say any thing to Mr. Walsh till six o'clock in the evening, or to any body else, I will give you the buckles, or tell you where they are. I gave him my word I would not say any thing to any body till that hour, or in the evening. Both Flint and I made him that promise. We went home to my master's and informed Mr. Gibson what we had done, that we had given our words not to tell Mr. Walsh or any body till fix in the evening. Mr. Gibson said if I would not tell Mr. Walsh, he would; upon that we went up directly and told Mr. Walsh; Mr. Walsh ordered us to go and fetch the prisoner to him, and Mr. Walsh assured us he did not intend to hurt any man.

Did Mr. Walsh say that in the presence of the prisoner? - No; only in the presence of us two. While we were gone Mr. Walsh and Mr. Gibson got a constable to take charge of the prisoner.

Did you tell the prisoner when you went back to him, that he might safely come and tell all about it, that Mr. Walsh would not hurt him? - I did not tell him that; Flint might, he went up first. We brought the prisoner to Mr. Walsh; Mr. Walsh said to him, I find you have taken a pair of my gold shoe buckles away, and that coat? He said yes, sir. Mr. Walsh said, have you any thing else? the prisoner's answer was no.

Who were present at this time? - Mr. Gibson, the constable, and myself.

What more passed? - Nothing more.

We then went with him before Justice Hyde.

Did Mr. Walsh before he asked any thing respecting the buckles or coat make use of any threats, or make any promises to him? - I did not hear any.

What did the prisoner say when he was before the justice? - He confessed taking all these things, but said he had tied them up in order to return them to Mr. Walsh; he said he took the buckles to serve a friend in distress.

Did he say what he had done with them? - I could not learn what he had done with them; he said he could not tell; he had given them to a person, and did not know what he had done with them.

Did he at any subsequent time in your hearing say what he had done with the buckles? - No.

Have the buckles ever been found? - Never, to my knowledge.

Cross Examination.

You came I think into Mr. Walsh's service on the 2d? - I did.

The prisoner went away on the 18th? - Yes.

He was discharged on the 4th, but was to come backwards and forwards till the Sunday? - Yes.

When did he leave Mr. Walsh's service absolutely? - His pay went on till Sunday next after the 2d day of the month.

He lay at Mr. Walsh's I am informed after the 4th? - The servants indulged him with lying there, because he had no lodging.

His trunk remained there till the 18th? - Yes.

None of the things were missed till the 20th? - None of them.

You and a fellow-servant on the 20th went to the prisoner's lodging to enquire after these things? - Yes.

Recollect now what promises you made to the prisoner at that time? - We promised we would say nothing at all of it till six o'clock.

Did not you make some promises to induce him to confess? - We said nothing, only promising that we would not say any thing about it till six in the evening.

The prisoner was left at liberty all that time? - All that time he was left at liberty.

Did you go the second time that evening? - Yes, we went again in about an hour.

Did no words of favour fall from your mouth when you went to the prisoner's apartment the second time; did you mention nothing of what Mr. Walsh said? - He said he did not like to go, would not writing do? I said he had better go and tell Mr. Walsh how it was, and perhaps he might meet with some favour; I could not give him much hope, Mr. Walsh is too rigid a a man to hope for favour.


I am servant to Mr. Walsh. I went with Mr. Ingram to the prisoner's lodging on the 20th of last month. We found the prisoner at his lodging.

Did you go into the room immediately? - No, we went down stairs first; he said he had somebody in bed; we went down into the kitchen.

Is he a married or a single man? - Single I believe. He met us at the door; Mr. Ingram asked him where the buckles were put; he said in the dressing-room. Mr. Ingram said they could not be found; the prisoner said he did not know where they were. The prisoner went up stairs; we followed him. We found the coat behind the bolster on the bed, then we suspected he knew something about the buckles.

Did you know that coat? - I knew my master wore such a sort of coat; I believe this is his coat, but I never had it in my care.

What did the prisoner say about it? - He first said it was not Mr. Walsh's; afterwards he said it was. When we found the coat we said possibly he knew something about the buckles; and we said if he confessed perhaps it would be the better for him.

Who said that? - We both spoke to him, I cannot say which said it; he then said, if you will say nothing I will tell you about the buckles. I promised him I would not, and so did Mr. Ingram. He said if we would call about six o'clock in the evening he would get us the buckles and every thing else that he had.

You promised you would never say any thing about this if he told you? - Not till six o'clock.

Was that the promise he requested, or did he require you should never discover it - He mentioned that time in particular. Then we went home and reasoned with ourselves whether we should acquaint Mr. Walsh with it then or stay till we had got the buckles, or till six o'clock. We spoke to Mr. Gibson about it; Mr. Gibson said we must go and tell Mr. Walsh directly, or he would. I then went up and told Mr. Walsh of it; he bid me go and tell the prisoner to come to him. I said we had promised not to mention it, and hoped he would not hurt him; Mr. Walsh said he was not going to hurt him, he did not want to prosecute any man; he said go and tell him to come to me. When I got to the door I said, sir, I hope you will not hurt him; he said no, he did not want to prosecute any man.

Did he desire you to tell the prisoner that in order to induce him to confess? - No, but to desire the prisoner to come to him. Then we went to the prisoner's lodgings; I left Mr. Ingram below, and I went up stairs and told the prisoner my master wanted to speak to him. He said I am afraid my master is very angry. I said yes, he is angry, but if you will go to him and own the things, and ask his pardon, I dare say he will forgive you. He said he would go upon that condition. Ingram said the same, that he dared say he would forgive him. He went along with us to Mr. Walsh's; he went up stairs with us, and to our great surprise my master had got a constable up stairs, and charged the constable with him.

What passed? - My master said, Booker, you have robbed me; he said he had. My master said you, have stolen my buckles; the prisoner said he had, and went down on his knees and asked my master's pardon; my master said you are in the hands of justice now, and delivered him to the constable.

Did your master make use of any promises when the prisoner came to him to induce him to confess? - No, not to him.

Cross Examination.

The first time you went to the prisoner's lodging you found the coat before there was any promise at all made to him? - Yes.

And upon finding that you said if he would confess the other things it would be better for him? - Yes.

Upon that he confessed he knew of the other things? - Yes.

The second time you gave him hopes that his master would forgive him? - Yes.

He might have gone away if he had not relied upon a hope of forgiveness? - Yes.


I am a constable.

Are you the person who was sent for by Mr. Walsh? - Yes. I went with Mr. Ingram and Mr. Flint to search the prisoner's lodging, after he was in Tothil-fields Bridewell; I found in a trunk in the prisoner's lodging the things which have now been produced, at least they were things of the same kind; I believe these are the same, they have been in Mr. Walsh's house.

Who carried them there? - I do not know; they have not been in my possession.

Cross Examination.

He gave you the key of his trunk voluntarily? - Yes. I went down to Bridewell to him; he gave me the key; he said there was nothing in the box but his own.

To Ingram. You said the things, found at the prisoner's lodging, were taken out of drawers which were usually kept locked? - Yes.

Did any of the drawers appear to be broken open? - There was no appearance of the kind.

Had the prisoner to your knowledge the key of those drawers before he left the house? - Never.

Had any one else but yourself the key? - Mr. Walsh had the key; I know of no body else having any key. One key opened all the drawers, the presses and all.

Were these things delivered to you on the 4th, and the drawers kept locked from that time? - Yes, to the best of my knowledge.

Where was the coat kept? - In the press

Was that press kept locked? - Yes.

Prisoner. I have things of the same kind of my own, stockings and waistcoats; I have some things in prison which I believe will answer the same things.

To Ingram. Was that the trunk in which the things were found which the prisoner had at your master's house? - I do not know the trunk, I never saw it till I saw it in the prisoner's room.

Prisoner. I leave my defence to my counsel.

For the Prisoner.

JOHN KEYS sworn.

I have known the prisoner about two years; I have been intimately acquainted with him these last ten or twelve months, as he has boarded with me; I always found him a very honest man. I never was more astonished in my life than when I heard he was in prison.


I have known the prisoner since last June, His character has been exceeding good.


I have known the prisoner eight or ten years; he always bore the best of characters. I was exceedingly amazed when I heard this. He has been in my house and had opportunities of taking things away. He always behaved extremely well.


I am a tailor by trade. I work for his master. He always bore the best of characters.


I have known the prisoner near eleven years; he was always a very sober, honest, good man; he lived in our family.

JOHN GALE sworn.

I have known the prisoner more than eight years; I believe he was universally genteel in every respect; he has frequently been at my house, as I have sometimes given him lessons in hair-dressing. He has a a good character.


I have known the prisoner four years; he had a very good character, I never beard of such a good character in my life.

Court to the Constable. When you examined the trunk, were there other things which resembled these things? - There were other things much of the same kind.

Court. How came these particular things to be taken then? - These were made up in a bundle, the others were not.

GUILTY of stealing the goods to the value of 10 s .

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-5
VerdictNot Guilty

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90. WILLIAM SINKEY was indicted for stealing a wicker hamper, value 2 s. and twenty-seven glass bottles, value 6 s. the property of Benjamin Kenton , Esq . January the 13th .


I am porter to Mr. Benjamin Kenton the prosecutor. I had been out with a cart of oil to the other end of the town on the 13th of January; as I came up Ludgate-hill , I left the cart, and went the path-way round St. Paul's church-yard to meet the cart; when I met it I told the carter the cloth was hanging out of the cart; I then went round the cart, and saw that two hampers were lost out of the cart; I ran backwards and forwards; I saw a man and woman sweeping the kennel, I asked them if they had seen any thing of the hampers; they said two men went by with each a hamper; I went after them as far as London-stone, there I heard of them again; at Crooked-lane I over-took the prisoner with a hamper on his shoulder; I asked him where he was going; he said he did not know; I asked where the other man was; he said he was coming behind; I stopped him, and we staid a while; he then said he was gone on before; I said I would secure him. The hamper had the bottles mentioned in the indictment in it; I know them to be Mr. Kenton's property. We had been with wine to Lincoln's-Inn-fields, to the Strand, and to the Adelphi, and brought back three hampers of empty bottles.

Cross Examination.

You asked the man where he was going? - Yes.

And who he had the hamper from? - I asked him where he had them; he said out of St. Paul's church-yard, that he having boots on a man asked him to help them over the kennel.

Did he not tell you that a man in a brown coat who was coming after him was the man he had them of? - Yes, he said he hired him. There was no man coming after him. I asked him where he was going; he said he would not tell.

Are you sure the bottles are Mr. Kenton's property? - Yes.


I am a constable. A porter came to my house and said he had been robbed of two hampers of bottles, that he had got a man whom he desired me to go and take charge of. I went with him to a publick-house; there I saw the prisoner. I asked him how he came by the hamper. He said a man hired him to take it over the kennel, he having boots on; it was at the breaking up of the frost. I took him to the Compter, and there I left him.

To Buckle. You had intelligence from a woman or man sweeping the kennel, that two persons were gone along with hampers on their backs? - I had.

Where was that? - By the Old Change Cheapside.


I am a carman. I was driving the cart in which the hampers were. When Mr. Kenton's man left me on Ludgate-hill to go round the foot-way the hampers were in the cart; when he came again to the cart there were two hampers gone. He left me immediately, and came again and said he had got one of them.


As I was going by the back of St. Paul's church, a man hired me to carry the hamper to Crooked-lane; the witness came up after me and said it belonged to him; I bid him ask the man behind about it. I went to look for the man, but he was gone.

To Buckle. Did he attempt to run away? - No.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Baron PERRYN .

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-6
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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91. JOHN BLAKE was indicted for stealing a trunk covered with hair, value 5 s. eleven linen shirts, value 7 l. eight linen stocks, value 20 s. a woollen cloth coat laced with silver lace, value 3 l. a watch, the inside and outside case made of gold, value 20 l. the property of James Taylor , Esq . February the 1st .

- WORRELL sworn.

I was at the Castle-Inn in Wood-street , I am book-keeper to the waggon. On Tuesday the 1st of February an alarm was given that a trunk was stolen from the Leeds coach , which was just come in.

What time was the alarm given? - About seven o'clock, between seven and eight.

Had you seen the trunk? - I had not seen it then. I ran down Wood-street to London-wall, and crossing over to Little Basinghall-street, I saw the prisoner with a trunk; I took him by the collar and asked him where he was going with that trunk? He said he was going to carry it for a gentleman. I said he had carried it far enough, and bid him put it down; he put it down and wanted to get away. There was a man on the opposite side of the street, whom he called Jones, who crossed the way with a stick in his hand; I called for assistance, and that man ran away when he saw some people coming up. I brought the prisoner and the trunk back to the Castle-Inn.

JAMES TAYLOR Esq. sworn.

There is only the watch in court.

Worrell. I never saw the watch before.

Did you see the trunk opened? - No; the constable did.

Mr. Taylor. On Tuesday evening the 1st of February I came to the Castle-Inn; a few minutes after I got out of the coach, the trunk was missed. A book-keeper and some of the attendants at the inn went after it; the prisoner was brought back to the inn, with the trunk. I can only speak to the property.

How long was it after the trunk was missing that Worrell brought back the prisoner with it? - I suppose about five minutes.

Did you open the trunk? - Yes.

Is there nothing in court but the watch? - No, I have on the breeches and stocking; they were in the trunk.

Was the watch in the trunk? - It was.

Did you put up the trunk and put the watch in? - Yes.

Are you sure that is the watch? - Yes; I have the inventory of the things which were in the trunk; the trunk had not been opened when it was brought back.

Prisoner. Do you know the number of the watch?

Taylor. I think, to the best of my remembrance, it is 623. made by Easton, of London. There are two seals to it, one seal has a cypher. I am sure the watch and seal are mine.

Did you see the prisoner before the trunk was missing? - I did not.

Did you see any body of the name of Jones? - No.


I am the coachman. I brought this trunk; they took it out of the coach and set it down in the yard; it was gone in less than five minutes after.

Did you see nobody in the yard? - No, only the book-keeper and I.

Did you see nobody of the name of Jones? - No.


The coachman asked me to hand the trunk down from behind the coach on the floor, which I did; then we carried an hamper into the warehouse; when we came back the trunk was gone. I asked Worrell and the other man to go after the man; they brought him back, and he was delivered to the constable.


I am a constable. They gave me charge of the prisoner on the first of this month, for stealing an hair trunk; I took him to the Compter.


My principal witness is not here; she is gone down to Portsmouth; she will be here in a week or two. I made application to the court to put my tryal off.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-7
VerdictNot Guilty

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92. MARY MADAN was indicted for stealing eight yards of green durant, lined and quilted with white stuff, value 20 s. the property of Frances Emmerson , widow , January the 5th .


I live in Bowling-alley, near Redcross-street .

Did you lose any part of your property at any time? - Yes, two pieces of stuff quilting intended for petticoats, the outside green and the inside white quilted with wool; the outside is called durant to the best of my knowledge.

What was it worth? - About twenty shillings, I believe I lost it on the 5th of January last.

Have you any reason for charging the prisoner with taking the stuff? - Yes, from my little girl telling me she took it.

Do not you know any thing of it of your own knowledge? - Yes; when I found her she told me she took it.

When she made that confession did you make any promise of favour to her? - When she told me she took them, she said they were pawned; I desired to have the duplicates; I told her if I could have my property I would not hurt her.

What age is the child? - She will be thirteen the 23d of next May.

(The girl, Frances Emmerson , was called, but as she did not understand the nature of an oath she was not examined.)


I am servant to a pawnbroker, No. 13, Holywell-street, Shoreditch. I have a petticoat here which I received from two women, but I cannot recollect either of their faces; I have looked at the prisoner, but cannot recollect her to be the person I took it in of.

(The petticoat was produced in court.)

Emmerson. I once looked at the petticoat by day-light and swore to it, but now it is candle-light what can I do?

Can you upon your oath say that the petticoat now produced was the stuff you lost? - I believe this to be my property; the coat I saw by day-light at Justice Wilmot's I could swear to.

To Harvey. Is that the petticoat which was produced at Justice Wilmot's? - It is the petticoat she swore to at the justice's.


I hired the prisoner to look after my family; she was setting forth her distresses; she said she had a family, and had been out of place two months, and that she had supported herself by pawning her things. She said she had a petticoat in pawn which she would sell for two shillings more than it was pawned for, rather than the pawnbroker should run away with it. I redeemed it out of pawn, they had lent seven shillings upon it; I paid the interest and gave the prisoner a shilling more. She told me it was her own, and by her producing the duplicate I thought it was her own.

(The prisoner was not put upon her defence.)


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Baron PERRYN .

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-8
SentenceCorporal > whipping

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93. ELISABETH VICKERY was indicted for stealing a silver tea-spoon, value 1 s. a silk gown value 20 s. a stuff petticoat, value 4 s. three linen aprons, value 3 s. three linen handkerchiefs, value 3 s. the property of William Arnold , January 30th .


On the 30th of January my wife and I went out in the evening and left the prisoner, who was our servant , at home; when we returned she was gone.

What time did you return? - I believe a little after eight o'clock. My little girl informed me that a person had called on the prisoner, and that they both went out together. I missed the things mentioned in the indictment (repeating them.)

Had you seen them before you went out? - I do not recollect that I had seen them for several days, perhaps weeks before.

Have you found any of them again? - Yes, in Grub-street; I went the same night to the girl's mother to acquaint her that the prisoner was gone away, and asked if she knew where I could find her; she said she did

not know of but one place where it was likely to find her, that was in Grub-street. I went there and found her and the things; the things were tied up in a sheet. I said they were mine. There was an old woman and her daughter in the house with her; I took them and the prisoner to the watch-house.


I am a constable. Mr. Arnold sent for me to Grub-street; he claimed these things (producing them) as his property; I took the prisoner, and the woman and her daughter before the Alderman; there the prisoner confessed she took the things.

Was any promise made to her to induce her to confess? - None at all that I heard.

Was there any threat made use of to her before you went or when you were before the alderman? - No, not a word that I know of.

(The goods produced were deposed to by the prosecutor.)

Prisoner. I confessed more out of fear before the alderman than the truth.

Prosecutor. She always behaved exceeding well; I respected her as a servant. I think she said when she was before the alderman, that the young woman took part of the things away, and she took part of them.

Was any thing said before you went before the alderman to frighten her? - Not by me.

Did you hear any body else say any thing? - No.


My husband and I went out and left the prisoner in care of the house. I saw some of the things that away, she would come in the evening and help me.

(The prisoner called one witness who gave her a good character.)


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

[Whipping. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-9
SentenceCorporal > whipping

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94. ELISABETH EMERY was indicted for stealing a pair of silver snuffers, value 10 d. the property of Joseph Powel .


On Wednesday I came home, and my family told me that one of Sir John Fielding 's men had been to fetch my servant, the prisoner at the bar, on account of a pair of silver snuffers which had been offered to pawn by one of her acquaintance.

Did not you miss the snuffers when you wanted to use them? - They were snuffers for sale in the shop; I swore to them at Sir John Fielding 's. The prisoner was taken up in consequence of an old woman's impeaching her. She had been taken into custody and would not tell where she got the snuffers till the next day, when she said she had them of my servant, the prisoner.

(The snuffers were produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutor.)


These snuffers were brought to my house to pawn by Mary Warburton and the prisoner at the bar; Warburton came in with them and asked two shillings and sixpence on them. I said whose snuffers are they?


I received the snuffers of the prisoner for to pawn; I said they would not fetch above two shillings and sixpence, but Mr. Brown would give me but a shilling for them. I asked her if that would do; she said as you like. I took the shilling and gave it to her.


I would have called my master I lived with last, but I thought it would be to my prejudice, to see me in this situation. I should be glad to get a good place again.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Whipping. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-10
VerdictNot Guilty

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95, 96. FREDERICK THOMAS and CHRISTOPHER EYRES were indicted for the wilful murder of Isabella Ray , widow , December 26th .


Did you know the deceased? - Not to my knowledge. I saw her on Sunday morning, the day after Christmas-day, on Salt-petre-bank . Mary Wilkinson and I were coming down the bank; Wilkinson said to me there is a man lying with a woman upon the steps; then I saw Thomas lying with her upon the ground; I had not seen him before. We had been to the Black-Lion, and were going home.

How near was you to the prisoner Thomas and the deceased? - The first time I saw them I was about five or six yards from them. I passed by them again.

How near was you to them then? - Within a yard or two. I came back then within five minutes; she was then upon the pavement; she cried out for help, she appeared to be quite broken-winded; I would have gone to her assistance but Mary Wilkinson and a man who was with us, who said he was an excise-officer, desired me not.

Who was with her? - The prisoner Thomas was then upon her upon the ground.

Where was the other prisoner? - He was standing at the next door, the two doors are close together.

You did not offer to assist her? - No.

What did the deceased say? - She said, Ladies, ladies, have compassion upon a woman! I would have gone to her assistance but the custom-house-officer would not let us; he said we should be served the same.

Was Thomas lying with her or beating her? - He was upon her.

Lying with her? - I do not know that; he was lying upon her, on the pavement. We came down the Bank again for another dram, and then went up again, and then the other prisoner was lying upon her, and Thomas was kicking either him or the deceased.

How many drams had you? - Four drams.

In what time? - Between the hours of two and four in the morning.

Had you been a-bed? - Yes, from nine o'clock. We got up to get some water, as it was Christmas time we had been drinking and were thirsty.

Eyres you say was lying with her when you came back again? - Yes. We came down the Bank a little, then three men came out; I stopped at the watch-house door to look at them as they passed to see if I knew either of them; the prisoners were two of those men. I did not know the other three men, but the two prisoners are the men who lay with the woman. When they came by the watch-house door Mary Wilkinson said to Eyres I did not think you had been such a man. I said, d - n your blood, if you had served me so I would have hanged you if you had all the necks in the world. Then as we were about to go home we met with the excise-officer again; we went up the Bank again with him; then we saw the deceased stuck up against a door; I said to her are not you ashamed, such an old woman as you, to lie with so many fellows? She replied, how could I help myself against so many?

Did she come by the place where the five men went on? - She was farther on towards Rosemary-lane. She had no marks of violence upon her but only her eyes were swelled very much.

You understood at that time that the men had lain with her, by her consent? - Yes. Those were the words she said to me;

that was the last time we came down the Bank. I saw no more of her after that.

Did you ever see her before? - No.

Cross Examination.

How far was this from the watch-house door where you saw the men lying with her - It was about forty yards, was it not? - No.

It was within call of the watch-house, was it not? - No; it was in another parish.

Was it more than fifty yards? - I dare say it was above fifty or sixty yards.

Where did you see that the deceased's eyes were swelled? - When she was at the next door to the King of Prussia's Head.

There is no lamp I believe on Saltpetre-Bank? - There may be one at the top, and one at the bottom for what I know.

If you saw it, it was by moon-light? - It was a very moon-light, sharp, frosty night.

Saltpetre-Bank is a place pretty much frequented at all hours of the night, I believe? - I cannot say.

You know Saltpetre Bank very well, and what sort of houses there are there? - I was born and bred in the parish, and therefore ought to know it.


Did you know Isabella Ray? - The woman was a stranger to me.

Did you see her on the Sunday following Christmas-day? - Yes.

Where did you see her? - On Saltpetre-Bank. It was about twenty minutes past two o'clock in the morning.

Who was with her? - The prisoner, Thomas was lying with her, the other prisoner was standing at the next door. We went to get a drop of something to drink.

Where to? - We first went to the White-Swan, they were not up there. Mary Delvin asked me to go farther; she asked me then to go to Saltpetre-Bank. I went with her to the Black-Lyon, there we had a quartern of gin.

Did you see Thomas with the deceased before you went to Saltpetre-Bank, or after? - As we were going along, I heard a woman cry out; I said to Mary Delvin , Did not you see a man lying with the woman upon the steps, and the other man standing up against the door; that was as we were coming down from the Black-Lyon; we were then going home. We went down to the bottom with a gentleman who said he was a Custom-house officer: he said if any house was open he would give us something to drink; Mary Delvin said there is the house we have just come from; we went up, then Mary Delvin saw Eyres stand up the same way as before; Thomas had got her then off the steps, and she was lying all her length upon the ground, Mary Delvin would have gone over, but the Excise officer desired her not; he said he was not able to take his own part, much less other peoples, and I begged Mary Delvin not to go over.

Was Thomas upon her when you went back the second time? - Yes, upon the stones; he had got her off the steps.

Did the deceased say any thing then? - She cried out both the first time and the second time.

What did she say? - She said, Good women come to help me, if you have got the compassion of women. Delvin would have gone to help her, as I said before, but the Excise officer would not let her. She cried out when he had her against the steps, and when he had her down upon the stones.

Did you know either of the prisoners before? - Yes, I knew them both; I lived at the Ship; I used to serve the house where they worked with beer.

Did you see them again afterwards? - Yes, that was the third time, then Eyres was upon her, and Thomas was kicking her; three men were then standing by her.

Those three men were not there at first? - No, none but two at first.

Who was Thomas kicking? - I cannot be certain whether it was the woman or the man that was upon her; we went to the bottom of Saltpetre Bank, and parted with the gentleman who said he was a Custom-house officer. We stopped a little by the White Swan door, and heard them brag of what they had done to the woman. Mary Delvin said she would stop and see if she

knew them; I begged her to get near the watch-house door, which she did. The five men came down; I saw Eyres; I said to him, I should never have thought it; if any one had told me I should never have believed such a thing of you; upon that Eyres fell a laughing.

What did Thomas do? - He held his hand up to his face. I said, you have no occasion to hide your face for I know you very well. Somebody in the watch-house called out and bid us not make a noise there. Mary Delvin said, if it was me you had served so, if you had all the necks in the world, I would hang you for it. When we saw the Excise officer again, we went up the hill again to the Black-Lion, then we saw the deceased next door to the King of Prussia; she asked us if we could tell her where to get a lodging; Mary Delvin said, was not she ashamed of herself to be concerned with so many men? she said, my dear woman, how could I help myself with so many men. She spoke very faint. We said we could not tell her where to get a lodging. We left her standing at the door. We went to the Black-Lion and had a pint of two-penny; coming down again from the Black-Lion I saw her stand, leaning against the watch-house gate, I took no notice then, but went home and went to bed.

Cross Examination.

I think you said Delvin stopped near the watch-house, when she heard the men coming up, in order to know who they were? - Yes.

She did not know who they were before, did she? - No - I knew them very well.


You are a surgeon? - I am.

Did you examine the body of the deceased? - On Monday the 27th of December last I was desired by the churchwardens to examine the body of the deceased, to see whether it was necessary to have a coroner's inquest upon it. She was bruised in a violent manner in various parts of the body; her knees were bruised and discoloured exceedingly; her arms were excoriated from the elbow; her eyes were black, and swelled almost out of her head; there was a blow upon her temple, and a wound under her left jaw, which wound was triangular, and seemed to be made by a tuck out of a stick, or something of that fort. I told the churchwarden it would be highly necessary to have a coroner's inquest. On the Tuesday following I was desired to open the body, which I did, I then traced the wound to its exit; I found it about three quarters of an inch deep. I took off the scalp, and part of the skull, and examined the brain. I did not perceive any injury upon the brain.

Were any of the bruises that you saw likely to occasion her death, or in your judgement did occasion it? - I could not take upon me to swear that any of the wounds or bruises were the immediate cause of the death. I look upon it that the treatment the woman received was the first cause, and the inclemency of the weather the second or finishing cause.

But none of the wounds would have occasioned her death? - Not from their appearance they would not.

Upon the whole you imputed her death to the inclemency of the weather, her being out all night as you heard she was? - I look upon that to be only the secondary cause. I believe the inclemency of the weather would not have destroyed her if she had not been so ill treated before; being struggling, and her spirits exhausted, she might be left in such a state that the inclemency of the weather might take greater effect.

Was the weather remarkably severe then? - Exceedingly so.

If a person was in a state of health before, might not the inclemency of the weather have occasioned death though these bruises or wounds had never happened? - Unless they were intoxicated and lay exposed motionless, but that did not seem to be her case.

Cross Examination.

Was it on the Monday or the Tuesday that you was called upon? - The Monday.

Were you the first surgeon that examined the body? - I know nothing about that.

Do you know Mr. Slater and Mr. Hodgson? - I have seen the gentlemen once.

And a Mr. Trower; do not you know a gentleman of the faculty of that name? - No. I never saw Mr. Slater in my life till he came to my house to examine me about the state of the woman's case.

Are they men of character, and men of reputation in their profession? - I have nothing to say against the gentlemen's character. I know nothing of them; I never saw them in my life till they came to my house.

Was there no surgeon before the coroner that examined the body besides you? - Not while I was in the room.

Then it is mere conjecture whether any body examined the body besides you? - I was not present therefore I do not know what other people examined.

You have heard of no examination? - The churchwarden told me afterwards it had been examined by other surgeons, but I was not present at that examination.

You have informed the court that the weather may have been a secondary cause, because you suppose that her struggling, and spirits being exhausted, might have hastened her death; how can you possibly know whether she had struggled and her spirits were exhausted? - Her elbows being bruised, and the skin rubbed, I look upon to be a struggling to get clear of the men.

And you conclude from thence that her spirits must be exhausted too? - I should suppose that a woman who is laid with against her will would struggle till she is much exhausted.

You never heard of any person being frozen to death? - Certainly they have.

But not unless the person is intoxicated? - Yes, if a person falls asleep.

Why is not Mary Hill here? - She desired of myself and the churchwarden, that if it was possible to do without her, she might not to be called.

- CHINNER sworn.

I am one of the overseers of the parish of St. John, Wapping. On Sunday the 26th of December, after the morning service, word was brought to the church that there was a woman brought into the work-house and died almost instantly as she was brought in. I never saw her till after she was dead. The churchwarden and myself after the service was over went up to the work-house; we saw the body, and there appeared to us, myself and the upper churchwarden Mr. William, some marks of violence; we called upon Mr. Hodgson desiring him to go up with us to see the body; he was not at home; we went up by ourselves and viewed the body; it was our opinion there were marks of violence; we thought we should not be justified in burying the body without having a coroner's inquest held upon it; we applied to Mr. Horsfall. I did not think proper to retain any counsel in this matter, for I think that simple truth, without any dress, will have more weight than any thing else.

Court. You should have had Mary Hill here. - The women have been threatened if they give evidence. I submit it to your lordship if that is right?

Court. Certainly not, those threats are very wrong.

- Jewson. I belong to the workhouse; we were sent to fetch her away in the chair; we found her lying upon the foot pavement facing the Swan in East Smithfield, about nine in the morning; we found her much bruised and beat.

Did she say any thing to you? - She never spoke a word, we carried her to the work-house; we delivered her to the nurse of the ward; she died in five or six minutes after we got her in.

You were not acquainted with the woman before? - No, I never saw her before.

For the Prisoners.


You are a surgeon? - I am.

When was it that you examined this body? - On Sunday the 26th of December last, about three o'clock in the afternoon.

You have heard the account given by Mr. Horsfall? - I have.

You examined the body accurately; inform the court whether there was any appearance of injury upon the body. - The external part of the trunk I examined most minutely; there was a very small wound on the lower part of the left jaw; I had not

any probe in my pocket; I borrowed a knitting needle to probe the depth of that wound, it went in a diagonal form, rather inclining upwards, it pointed as if coming out of the skin again; it seemed to be a superficial wound; it did not penetrate more than three quarters of an inch; her eyes were black as if she had received a blow or two upon them, there likewise were some bruises on the elbows, and on the knees; I think a trifling blow upon one side of the cheek, which appeared to me to be done by falling down, as if the woman had fallen, and by that means bruised herself: seeing these bruises of so trifling a nature, I was desirous of examining the viscera of the body and the brain, but Mr. Hodgson who examined with me said it was so clear a case it was not worth while to enter into the minutiae further. It appeared to me the woman died from the inclemency of the weather, and not from those bruises she had received. Mr. Trower, a gentleman of the faculty, who is now at Margate, was likewise with me, it was then our opinion that the bruises the woman had received could not by any means in the world have occasioned her death.

And that is your opinion now? - It is.

Mr. HODGSON sworn.

You are a surgeon? - Yes.

You examined the body of this woman at the same time that Mr. Slater did? - Yes; I did not see any marks of violence, or wound that could have occasioned death.

There was a Mr. Trower, a surgeon, with you? - Yes.

You all concurred in the opinion? - Yes.

You have heard Mr. Horsfall's opinion about a primary and secondary cause, which I do not understand; is that opinion well or ill founded, can you make any sense of that distinction? - It is a rule for me only to speak to the facts that are before me.

To Mr. Slater. Can you make any sense of this primary and secondary cause? - I do not understand it.


What time on Sunday morning did you got up? - At four o'clock in the morning; this woman was standing at the watch-house door then.

How did she appear to you then, to be sober or in liquor? - I found it was four o'clock; I went home to bed again; I went home about a quarter before seven; this woman was upon her knees beating her head against the flag stones.

Did you know her before? - I cannot say I did.

- KENT sworn.

I was house-man at the watch-house. There was a woman came to the door about four o'clock; she laid hold of the spikes at the door and begged to come in. The officers, seeing her in liquor, would not let her in. They told her she had better go home to her lodging; she said she had got none, but d - n her the would come in there. The officer said she should not. At a quarter after five I locked up the watch-house and went away, and saw no more of her. I remember these women were going by the watch-house at the same time she stood there; she had something wrapped round her head, so that I could not see whether she was bruised or not.

How near is your watch-house to the place where the two men had been lying with her? - I cannot say what part of Saltpetre Bank it was, because I heard no complaint about it. When she came to the watch-house she never made any complaint about her being ill used or any thing of that kind.

Did you know her before? - I did not indeed.


I saw the deceased between seven and eight o'clock on Sunday morning, she was then just beyond the watch-house door, lying on her right-side; she was singing then.

How far from the watch-house? - Seven or eight yards.

Court. Did you speak to her? - I did not.

Court. Did she appear to be in her senses? - I do not know, she was singing.

You might judge a little from her appearance? - I imagine she was not very well in her senses to be singing on a Sunday morning.

Was she in liquor or not? - I cannot say; I did not stop; I was going upon duty.

To Jewson. You were not able to get her into the chair, I believe, was you; she fell down, did not she? - She slid down once or twice, but not to hurt herself.

Mr. RUSSELL sworn.

I have known one of the prisoners ever since he was born; the other has been with me ten years. They have worked regularly for me; one is my apprentice. They are very sober, hard working, industrious lads; Thomas especially. They do not work of a Saturday, that is their holiday; and he used generally to go to work on Saturdays. He is a very valuable servant.

I understand he has a mother he supports entirely by his own industry? - Yes.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-11
VerdictGuilty > theft under 40s
SentenceCorporal > whipping

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97. ELEANOR, the wife of John Keys , was indicted for stealing a feather-bed, value 4 l. a blanket, value 10 s. a bolster, value 10 s. a cotton sopha cover, value 20 s. a cotton counterpane, value 40 s. a linen shift, value 5 s. two pair of linen sheets, value 20 s. a copper tea-kettle, value 3 s. a brass candlestick, value 2 s. two knives, value 2 s. two forks, value 1 s. and a dimity jacket and petticoat, value 5 s. the property of Sarah Dubre , out of the dwelling-house of the said Sarah , January 15th .


I live in a house in King's-Place ; I keep that house; the prisoner, who was my servant , and a Frenchwoman, were all the persons that composed my family. On the 15th of January, I missed the things mentioned in the indictment. Every one of the things mentioned in the indictment were my pro- property; they were all previous to that time in my house. The prisoner was my housemaid ; on the morning of the 15th of January she absconded from my house, which occasioned a suspicion that she had taken these things. I made an enquiry after her; I got a search warrant from a justice of the peace of search her father's house, where I apprehended I should find her. The prisoner was found at her father's house in Buckles-Court, St. Martin's-Lane, and several of the things I had lost were found in her possession; they were delivered up to the constable; she there confessed taking all the things which are mentioned in the indictment. She said some of them were at a lodging she had taken in Swallow-street, the others were pawned. She directed us to the pawn-broker's, and also to her lodgings. The bed, blanket, bolster, tea-kettle, candlestick, and a coarse sheet were found at her lodging in Swallow-street, and some things were in the possession of the pawn-broker.

From the Prisoner. Whether she did not offer me these things in lieu of money? I was hired a servant to her. She had four girls that saw company. The woman kept the house. She wanted me to go into company. I would not. She sent a gentleman down stairs after me; I would not comply

with him; he went out in a passion; she came down stairs and abused me, and said I hindered her of a guinea to her house; after that, she sent me up to the bed room, a gentleman came up, and she locked me in; she kept me there all night, the gentleman was to give me five guineas; he said he left it in her hands. She said she was distressed, and was going to live in a house at Brompton. She kept a very disorderly house in King's-Place.

Court to the Prosecutrix. Had you the sum of five guineas deposited with you for that girl? - There never were such words mentioned, if it was the last moment I had to live, nor ever such speeches came out of my mouth; it is all a falsity; she has raised this, in order that it should be against me, on account of the things she carried off. I never heard a word of this before.

Did you promise her any money? - No; I had fourteen shillings of her's, which she had received as vails, she put into my hands, and I told her I would buy her a gown with it.

Then you did not offer her these things voluntarily in lieu of money she was to have? - No.

Prisoner. The things she accuses me of stealing from her, with a bed-gown she gave me to do my work in of a morning, I left it dirty in the pail. I gave her warning several times, and she would not pay me what she owed me. I went away between ten and eleven o'clock in the morning. She gave me a shift and other things; she claimed a right to every thing she gave me, which was a bed-gown and shift and other things, which I gave up to her.

Court. Did you give her this bed-gown? - Never.

Court. Did you lock this girl up in company with any gentleman? - I never mentioned any such thing.

Court. But did you ever do the fact? - Never upon my oath.

Prisoner. She has drawn many a girl in the cord and debauched them.

Court. Has the girl ever warned you to quit your service? - No; I warned her before, and she always cried to stay. She would not work; she frequently got in liquor, drank beer and gin much.

Prisoner. Please to ask the constables; they know she keeps a bad house; there are people come every night and break her windows, and her house is tore to pieces.

Prosecutrix. That does not concern you; that is nothing to you.


I am servant to the pawn-broker at whose house some of the things have been pledged. My master lives at the corner of Crown-street, Soho. A sopha cover had been pawned at my master's shop on the 13th of January last; they were not taken in by me. On the 14th of January a counterpane, sheet, and napkin were pledged with me by the prisoner. Half a guinea was lent upon the sopha cover, a guinea upon the others. I asked her whether they were her's or no. She pledged them in the name of Frances Aldridge , and the sopha cover had been pledged in the same name the preceding day, therefore I was the less anxious about enquiring whether they were hers or no.


I am a constable. William Thickbroom another constable and I went with a search-warrant to the prisoner's father's house. It was some time before we could gain admittance. Thickbroom got in at the window. We found the prisoner; she owned to the articles. She gave us the knives, forks, shift, and cotton jacket and coat.

Were there any promises of favour or threats made use of? - None.


I am a constable; I went with Davison; I got in at the window. I found the prisoner upon the top of a bed; this was between twelve and one o'clock in the morning; she was covered over in the bed in her father's house. She got out; she said she would go with us. She delivered up to us the duplicates of the several things that have been pledged at the pawn-brokers, and she said she would show us where the other things were in the lodgings she had taken, and she delivered over the other things at her father's house; she went with us to her lodgings; there the other things were found; the prisoner said she would give them up to her mistress, provided she would not prosecute her.

What did the mistress say? - She would leave it to the justice; she would leave it to the law to decide whether she should be prosecuted or not. We took her before the justice; there, upon examination, the prisoner said there was no person concerned in the business but herself, but she said something about the girls persuading her to take them away.

Prisoner. My mistress sent me to pawn those things; she would not have duplicates in her pocket for fear she should pull them out of her pocket. She pawned those things to pay her landlady.

From the Prisoner to the Prosecutrix. Have not you got a husband living? - I have not.

Court. Are you a single woman, or a widow? - I am a widow.

Prisoner. She had a husband, and I have often heard her say that he was gone down to Portsmouth? - I have one child, but never a husband.

Prisoner. The feather-bed is an old bed which I laid upon in the kitchen.

Was the prisoner the only servant you had in the house? - Yes.

Prisoner. She used all the girls of the town so ill, that they left her. How I came to know she was a married woman was, when she wanted me to go into company; I said I was a married woman, she said so was she a married woman, but for all that she would go with a gentleman sooner than want money.

For the Prisoner.


I live in Vine-street, St. Martin's-lane.

Court. What are you? - I live upon my means; my husband maintains me in a genteel manner. I went to ask the prosecutrix two or three questions about her. I went to ask her what the affair was; she told me of the things that were taken, and she told me that she came to her for a service; and she told me she was something I do not like to mention, unless I must do it; she said she kept girls, and she thought the prisoner at the bar in a little time might become one of her girls, or her women; I do not know what she called them; I cannot tell what it is. She said she meant to go out the week following to buy her a pretty linen gown, and send her into her business. I supposed so by her meaning.

Court. When was this? - After this affair happened.

Court. The prisoner was then in custody? - Yes. But this is what she told me was her intention, and that she might have made very well of it, if she had not gone away.

Court. Was this all? - There was a great deal more said, for I talked an hour or two with her, but I cannot remember any more at present.

Had you any conversation with the prosecutrix about her situation, whether she was a married woman or no? - I do not recollect; the prisoner is a married woman, because I was present at the prisoner's marriage.

What is become of her husband now? - Her husband was out of town at the time; he left her distressed, so she went there to live in his absence.

What is her general character? - Very good; she has lived with me.

You have not had any knowledge of the prosecutrix, have you? - I never saw her till I went to speak to her; she herself discounted her life to me, for I did not know what she was.


I live in Grafton-street, Long-Acre, opposite the Seven Dials.

Are you a house-keeper? - Yes. I have known the prisoner upwards of nine years. I never heard any thing laid to her charge before I heard this.

Do you know any thing of the prosecutrix? - No; I never saw her in my life till last night. I know nothing of her.


I have known the prisoner almost seven years; I never heard, saw, or knew any thing bad or indifferent of her in my life before last Monday. She is an innocent, modest girl, and is a girl that has had a good education.

Do you know any thing of the prosecutrix? - No.


I live in Clare-market.

Are you a house-keeper? - Yes. I have known the prisoner ten years; I never heard any thing that was bad of her till I heard of this matter. She came of honest parents and always behaved herself well.

You know nothing of the prosecutrix I suppose? - I do not.


I live in Gerard-street, Soho.

Are you a house-keeper? - Yes. I have known the prisoner from an insant. I knew her parents before she was born; they were industrious hard working people. I never heard any harm of the prisoner in my life before this.


I have known the prisoner these twelve years. I know nothing but what is good of her; her general character is very good.

You know nothing of this fact or of the prosecutrix? - Nothing at all.

Prisoner. The person who was present at the time she gave me these things is absent.


She came to my house on the 13th or 15th of January, with two bundles and desired to leave them for two or three hours, which was permitted her. She lived about five doors from me, I have known her for some time; I never heard any imputation upon her character before. She is a married woman. I never knew any imputaion on her virtue or her honesty.

GUILTY of stealing to the value of 20 s .

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

[Whipping. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-12
VerdictGuilty > theft under 40s
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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98. JOHN FAIRBROTHER was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Isaac Boston , on the 12th of January , about the hour of seven in the night and stealing twenty-three yards of mode silk, value 50 s. the property of William Archer , in the dwelling-house of the said Isaac Boston .


The house was let out in different tenements. There is but one outer door, which is the security to all the different lodgings in the house.


On the 12th of January I went out of the house at half after four o'clock, having locked this room in which I lived, and left my work which I was then about, which was some mode silk, belonging to Mr. Archer, in the room; I carried the key to my wife, who was at her sister's in the same street. My wife came back before me. When I returned I examined the door and found that the staple was forced out and the work was gone. It consisted of three-quarters of mode silk. I had only this room, I had no concern with the rest of the house.


The silk was brought to me in the evening of the 13th of January, by one Dosey to dress.

Archer. This silk has the same mark and is of the same breadth as some which was left in the room, for the piece was cut. The value is nearly three pounds. The quantity now produced and that left in the room together make exactly the quantity of my silk, and correspond with that quantity which I had delivered out to Boston, my workman, to weave for me; and there is a white knot in it by which Boston knew it the moment he saw it; indeed he had before so described it.

Boston. There is a mark upon it by which I can positively swear it is the silk worked by me. The mark is a white knot of silk tied to three threads. There is nobody in the trade that ever used that mark but myself.


On the 13th of January, George Farthing brought this piece of silk to me to dress; I said I did not dress it myself. He desired me to get it done. I carried it to Jenkins.


The prisoner brought this silk to me on the 13th of January, and desired I would get it dressed. I delivered it to Dosey.

ANN FIELD sworn.

I lived with Mr. Farthing. The prisoner came that evening to my master's, but what passed between my master and him I no not know, as I was not present.


I know nothing of it more than the child unborn. I never saw the silk till I saw it at the Justice's.

For the Prisoner.

ANN HALL sworn.

I have known the prisoner between seven and eight years. I never heard any harm of him in my life.

Prisoner. I was at her house that night.

Court. Was he at your house that evening? - He was at my house, from the hour of five till nine; he never was out of my house.

What day was that? - On the 12th of January.

How do you know that? - For a particular reason, I took a memorandum of it.

How came you to do that? - I had a carpenter did a little job for me and I set down the day, it was old New-year's day.

Where is your house? - No. 1, Swedeland-court, Bishopsgate-street.

How far is that from where Boston lives? - I do not know.

Court. Have you got that memorandum of the carpenter's about you? - The carpenter has it.

Have you looked over it since? - I saw it in his book.

Was it the 12th of January there? - Yes, it was Old New-year's-day. The prisoner lighted the carpenter while he was doing the job.

Was the carpenter there more days than one? - Not at that little trifling job, but he was before that, the particular days I cannot remember, he had been there before.

Why do you fix it for the 12th of January that the prisoner lighted the carpenter? - The man's work was finished that day, and he could put in no more till that was off the loom.

Was he absent at all during that time? - Not to my knowledge.

Can you say whether he was or not? - To my knowledge he was not; I was down below stairs, up and down; I never missed him or heard him open the door.

Was you out of the room where he was? - Not half an hour together.

Archer. I would have you be so kind to understand, and the jury, I never saw the man; and were they to bring him in guilty, I would strive to the utmost of my power not to have him executed. This woman should be cautious, to say she never heard any thing amiss of him! Only please to ask her whether he was not sent from the justice's on board a ship.

Was he sent from the justice's on board a ship? - He never wronged me; he was sent as a pressed man.

The question is, what is his character in general? - As an impressed man he was sent from justice Wilmot's office for a soldier.

But has he a good character? - To my own knowledge he has.


I have known him seventeen years.

Are you a carpenter? - I am a writer for attornies.

Has the prisoner borne a good character? - Yes, to the best of my knowledge he has. He worked with my father some years and behaved well. My father is now in the country.


I knew the prisoner's father and mother upwards of thirty years ago. I never knew any harm of them or him. He lived next door to my daughter. I have heard that he worked very hard and kept in close. I never heard any harm of him.


I have known the prisoner ten years. I never knew any harm of him; he is a sober honest man.

Have you been in the habit of knowing much of him during that time? - Yes, I have.


I have known him five or six months. He has often been at our house to see an acquaintance

of his; I never knew or saw any harm of him.

Court to Ann Hall. Where is the carpenter? - He is not here.

Court. How came he not here? - I did not know that it was required.

Prisoner. The apprentice boy was there too, and knows I was not out at all.

Court to Ann Hall. When did you first go to the carpenter? - Yesterday.

You never went to him before? - I never was ordered here before.

So that you went to fix with him what was the day? - I went to know if he had got it down, and he had.

What? - That he had done a job of a shilling on the 12th of January.

Was that entered as an article done on the 12th of January? - It was.

Why did not you apply to him to come? - I did not know he would be wanted.

Had you no way of fixing what day it was without going to the carpenter? - I knew it was Wednesday, but could not say what day of the month Wednesday was without that.

Court to Mr. Archer. Do you know the distance between Boston's house and Ann Hall's.

Hall. My house is in Swedeland-alley, next to Whitegate street.

Archer. I could go there in eight or nine minutes.

Jury to Archer and Boston. Have you examined the count of that silk? - No, I did not examine the count of it; but when I carried that piece, the breadth and the quantity the man has brought me home since makes up exactly my quantity of sixty-one ells.

NOT GUILTY of breaking and entering the dwelling-house, but guilty of stealing the goods to the value of 10 s .

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-13
VerdictNot Guilty

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99. JOHN POWELL was indicted for stealing a hat, value 10 s. and a silver watch, value 20 s. the property of Peter Comasky , privately from his person , February 13th .

(It appeared in evidence that the prosecutor and the prisoner were both of them in the taproom together at the sign of the King's-Head in Broad St. Giles's , early in the morning; both had been drinking; the prisoner was intoxicated with liquor. The hat appeared to have been taken off his head in a joke, and he put his own hat on the prisoner's head and had walked about the room and cried out how fine I look in this hat! When the man came and enquired after his hat, with some difficulty the prisoner returned it. There was not any evidence to trace the watch to the hands of the prisoner. Some bad women were in the house. The watch was found in the possession of a woman who admitted in evidence, that she disposed of it, and said she had received it from the prisoner. It appeared she had been tried for felony and convicted, so was not in law a competent witness.)


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-14
VerdictNot Guilty > fault

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100. LEVI SOLOMON otherwise COCKELPUT was indicted for stealing a wooden trunk covered with leather, value 4 s. two woollen cloth coats, value 40 s. two woollen cloth waistcoats, value 10 s. two pair of woollen cloth breeches, value 10 s. eighteen linen shirts, value 4 l. eighteen pair of cotton stockings, value 36 s. and six pair of leather shoes, value 20 s. the property of John Irwin , January 14th .


The trunk with the things mentioned in the indictment, was in the boot of the Camberwell coach . My wife and two sons were in the coach. It was delivered to the coachman by my wife.

Was you present when it was delivered? - No, the coachman brought the prisoner in to me; when the trunk was taken upon him. I could swear to the trunk and the things in it.


I am coachman of the Camberwell stage.

I was coming up with the coach, on Friday night the 14th of January; I stopped at the bottom of Fish-street-hill to deliver a parcel; as I returned from delivering the parcel, I saw a man looking in at the boot of the coach; I bid him take care; he reeled away as if he was drunk. I stopped again at Fenchurch-street for a lady and child to get out of the coach; as they were getting out, I saw the same man standing again by my elbow. As I put up my arm for the gentlewoman to lay hold of it to get out, I perceived the slap of the boot go up. As soon as the lady let go my arm, I went to the side of the boot and saw the prisoner, he had got the trunk from the bottom of the boot to the top of it. The prisoner was not the person I had observed before.

Did you know the prisoner before? - Not before that night.

Are you sure it was Levi Solomon ? - Yes. He had hold of the box and got it from the bottom to the top of the boot; I cried out stop thief! he immediately let it fall, it fell edgeways in the boot.

Had he got it out of the boot? - No.

Did he meddle with it again? - No. I ran round the horses after him.

He was taken up afterwards? - Yes. I lost a box that cost me 20 l. before. I received this box from Mrs. Irwin.

(It appearing in evidence to be only an attempt, and not an actual robbery, the prisoner was not put upon his defence.)


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-15

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101. JOHN COVELL was indicted for stealing a pair of men's leather shoes, value 5 s. the property of William Colvill , January 17th .


I lost a pair of shoes on the Monday after last session (I forget what day of the month it was) while I went to carry a pair of shoes into Richardson's and Goodluck's office. The soldier (the prisoner) stood over the way at the corner of Prince's-street .

You are a shoe-cleaner there? - Yes, just by the door of the office. I caught him before he had got ten yards, and said he had got my shoes.

He had the shoes in his hand? - Yes. He was running as fast as he could. I cried out stop thief! Mr. Gowin the constable stopped him and brought him back to me. He dropped the shoes before he was taken.

Did you see him drop them? - No; the other man saw him drop them, and took them up.

Did you see the shoes in his hand? - Yes.

What did he say? - He said before the Lord Mayor that he took them off the ground where my stand is.

Did you hear him confess taking them? - Yes.

(The shoes were produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutor.)

Colvill. I have cleaned for the gentleman they belong to two years.

Is there any mark on them? - I do not know whether there is any mark, I know the shoes, I can swear to them; I have sworn to them; they are the same shoes.

How do you know them? give the jury some reason why you know them? - I know them by the toes, and every thing; and I can shew the gentlemen whom they belonged to. (The owner's name was in the shoes.)

What is the gentleman's name they belong to? - Faith I forget his name though I have cleaned for him so long.

Jury. Have you cleaned for the gentleman two years and not know his name? - Faith I cannot tell his name.

Court. Can you recollect the gentleman's name or not? - I cannot, nor I do not know whether there is any mark or not; I have heard his name but yet I cannot tell his name rightly.


As I was going along by this corner I saw these shoes lying on the ground between the kirb-stone and the wall, I took them up and walked away gently. When I came by the Royal Exchange, they cried stop thief!

and on their laying hold of me the shoes dropped.

To the prosecutor. What are the shoes worth? - I must have paid seven shillings and sixpence for them.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-16
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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102. ESTHER HALE was indicted for stealing ten guineas, a half crown, and three shillings, in monies, numbered , the property of Samuel Bailey , February 13th .


Last Sunday se'nnight, at half after five o'clock in the afternoon, I was upon London-Bridge looking at the waterworks; there had been a fire there. I came out of the country. I was looking at the wheels as they went round, and one Jones, who sells goods about the country, whom I had seen at my brother's who keeps a publick-house at Marlborough in Wiltshire, came up to me, and said he hoped my brother in the country was well. We went together into the Borough and drank two pints of beer at one publick-house, and one at another. We staid in the Borough till about nine o'clock. He asked me which way I was going; I said into the city, I lodged in the city. He said so did he. We went together, and he took me to the prisoner's in Turnagain-lane, Fleet-market .

A publick-house? - No, it is a private house; that was about a quarter after nine. The prisoner was in the room dressed in deep mourning. We supped there; in discourse at supper, the prisoner said she lived servant ten years in Hatton-garden, and went every night to lay out the supper.

How long did you stay there? - About half an hour. While Jones's wife was putting away the supper Jones shammed to be asleep.

Was Jones's wife there? - There was a woman who passed for his wife. I stood up and the Prisoner came and stood by me, and unbuttoned both the buttons of my breeches, and took my purse out. I found my breeches unbuttoned, I buttoned them, and said, ma'am, what are you doing. I felt in my pocket and missed my purse. She immediately started down stairs, and I pursued her.

Was you drunk or sober at this time? - As sober as I am now, upon my oath.

When you missed your purse did you say any thing? - As soon as I missed my purse she flew down stairs; I had no time to say any thing; I pursued her down stairs into a room; she made at my breeches again, and put the purse into my pocket and immediately ran out; the gold was in one end and the silver in the other. I found my gold was lightened. I followed her to the Magpie in Newgate-street. She slipped into that house; there is a glass door. I stopped half a minute or a second and looked through to see if she gave the money to any body. I thought perhaps she would give the money at the bar, or to some acquaintance. Not seeing her give it to any body, I went in and saw a good many russian kind of people; I knew nothing of the people or of the house; she called for two glasses of shrub, I drank one with her and she drank the other.

How long did she stay there? - Not above two or three minutes, no longer than while we drank the stuff; when we came out again the watch was just set, it was ten o'clock. I met a watchman and charged him with her.

Did you charge her at all with any thing while you were in the publick-house in Newgate-street? - No.

Why did you not? - There were many kind of russian-men; I did not know whether they were my friends or no; I was afraid I might have my brains knocked out; I thought when I came out the watch would be set, and I would charge the watch with her. She was taken to the watch-house. She delivered a guinea to the high constable, and told him that was all she had about her. She was searched, and there was nothing more found upon her.

She did not say that was your guinea? - No, she did not. I examined my purse in the watch-house, and found I had lost ten guineas, a half crown, and three shillings.

What money had you in your purse before you went into this house? - Twenty-two

guineas, eleven shillings and sixpence. I counted my money in the morning as I got out of bed.

How often had you had your purse out during that day? - I had my purse out twice.

You took it out to pay something? - Yes.

Did not you pay away some of it then? - Not of that money. I paid away one shilling and four-pence in the Borough. I paid two-pence at one publick-house; we went over to the King's-Bench, there I paid for a shilling's worth of punch and twopence.

Was your purse tied up? - Yes, and the money was safe in it at the King's Bench.

Had you counted the money any time in the day after the morning? - No.

How do you know the money was all in the purse then? - Because I did not miss any. I was very sober. I never get drunk, and indeed I had a cold and could not drink. I drank but little of the liquor that was called for.

How long was you in the house before Jones pretended to be asleep? - As soon as the supper was over.

Did she say any thing to you when she unbuttoned your breeches and took the purse - in what manner did she do it? - She pretended to give me a kiss. She gave me a good tug when she undid my breeches. The button hole of the pocket was broke; they were very roomy breeches, made two years ago when they wore them very large; macaroni breeches I believe they call them. She was not very softly about it; she almost pulled my breeches off. She was very impudent in doing it.

When you went down stairs, you say, she came to you again? - Yes, in the same manner, to undo my breeches; and made a pretence to kiss me again, and said Hum, and put the purse into my pocket.

You pursued her directly? - Yes.

Did you ever lose sight of her? - No; only while she turned into the room below stairs. I followed her into the room immediately; she had time enough to conceal the money.

Was the purse tied or untied when she put it into your pocket again? - Untied.

Did you know Jones before? - I had seen him at my brother's house at Marlborough; he is run away; I have never been able to hear of him since. I took up the other woman, she was discharged before the sitting alderman; I have not been able to find her since. When the prisoner was examined before the alderman, she denied ever being with me; she said I knocked her down in Newgate-street, and attempted to take her cloak away.

Prisoner. He told the alderman that I picked him up in the street, and took him home to supper. - It is all false.

What are you? - A serjeant. I was employed on the recruiting service at this time. The twenty pounds was the the colonel's money.

How much was left in the purse? - Twelve guineas and six shillings.


I was constable of the night; the prisoner was brought into the watch-house. I was going to search her; she said she had only a guinea, and produced it. We took her into a private room, and searched her, but found no more money upon her. She denied being along with Mr. Bailey; she said Bailey seised her in Newgate-street; that he catched her by the back part of her cloak and struck her, and used her very ill.

Was you present when she was examined before the alderman? - Yes.

Did he give the same account he has now? - Yes, as far as I recollect.

Whether he said he was taken by Jones to the prisoner's house, or that the prisoner picked him up in the street? - Exactly the same as he has described to you, my lord.

Prisoner. Whether he did not say he was robbed in a house in Fleet-lane or Field-lane? - Mr. Bailey was not certain to the street; he thought it must be Fleet-lane, but the next morning he found out the house.


I never saw the man in my life till he met me in Newgate-street; he asked me to go

to a bagnio; I would not go; then he said I should go in and drink with him; we went in and drank; when we came out he asked me again to go to a bagnio. I would not; then he said I was the person who had robbed him; that he had been robbed in Fleet-lane, and he charged the watch with me. I told the constable in the watch-house that I had but a guinea.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Whipping. See summary.] [Imprisonment. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-17
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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103. JOSEPH ROBINS was indicted for stealing a silver watch, value 20 s. the property of John Goodwin , January 18th .


On the 18th of January I lost a silver watch; there was a cypher at the back J. G. The prisoner came to buy a toy as I was informed. I was not at home. I keep a toyshop in Church-row, Aldgate . My watch was hanging up by the fire-side.

Was it your own watch that you wore yourself? - Yes. My wife and I were out, and my child was left in the shop. She often serves in the shop. The prisoner as I was informed, gave the child a shilling to change.

Court. I cannot receive the information you received from the child.

Prosecutor. I am a joiner and case-maker . I was out at my business. My wife keeps the shop. The witnesses will give you further subscription.


I live next door to Mr. Goodwin's. On the 18th of January, between twelve and one o'clock, the child came to the door and halloo'd over the counter, I am robbed. I saw the prisoner run by me, I ran directly after him to the bottom of Church-row, there he threw something down by Mr. King Thompson, what it was I do not know. I pursued him into Shoemaker-row; there was a barber's and piece-broker's shop both together; he ran into one of them, I did not know which. I looked through the window into the piece-broker's, and saw the prisoner buying some blue binding; he was leaning over the counter all of a twitter. I went in and laid hold of him by the collar, and said he had robbed a child just by; he said he had not. I brought him back, and King Thompson who picked up the watch brought it back to the house. As soon as I brought him back into the house, the child said that is the man that robbed me, he took my daddy's watch from me. As we had him in the coach going to his first examination he owned the fact.

Are you sure the prisoner is the man you pursued? - Yes.

Was you in the coach when he acknowledged that? - Yes; along with the constable.

Did you or the constable, or any body in the coach give him any reason to expect you would be favourable to him? - Yes; we said we would speak what we could for him; as we were working men we did not like to go on with the prosecution, because of the trouble of it; he thanked us for being so kind.


As I was going by the top of Houndsditch, I heard the cry of Stop thief!

When was this? - I cannot tell the day of the month. I did not take any particular notice of the day. I saw something drop from the prisoner.

Are you sure it was the prisoner? - I believe it was the prisoner.

Are you sure it was the prisoner? - I think it is the prisoner.

Have you any doubt about it? - Yes I believe it was him.

What was it you saw him drop? - As I was going by promiscuously, I saw him throw something out of his hand; I followed him to Shoemaker-row; there was a piece-broker's and a barber's. I saw him in the piece-broker's; by the colour of his coat, I believe him to be the man.

After he was taken did you go back to the house? - Yes; the man that lost the watch, was out; they sent for him; he came. They related the story, and he produced a spoon with the same crest upon it as was on the back of the watch.


I keep the sign of the Bell behind Aldgate Church. On the 18th of January, I heard the cry of Stop thief! I ran out and saw several people running. I ran as far as the end of the brick wall. I returned back, and picked up the watch. I then followed them into Shoemaker-row. I saw a heap of people with the prisoner. I asked what was the matter; they said he had stolen something, they did not know what. We went back with him to the house, and the child said he came in to buy a toy, and stole her daddy's watch. As we were taking him in a coach before the magistrate, he begged we would show mercy to him, and let him go to sea.

Court to the Prosecutor. How old is your daughter? - Between seven and eight years. If you will ask her any soft questions, she will answer you very punctually.

(The watch was produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutor.)


I know nothing at all of it. I never saw any thing of the watch. They laid hold of me and said I should go with them to the house, and I consented to go with them.

Thompson. The watch was thrown down opposite my house, about forty yards from the prosecutor's. The prisoner confessed it as we were going along, and begged we would get him off to go to sea.

To Cannon. Where did you see this watch thrown down - how far from the prosecutor's house? - It might be a hundred or two hundred yards, or but fifty; I do not know the ground; I cannot particularly say.

Thompson. Cannon laid hold of his coat and said, You villain, I saw you throw the watch down.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. BARON PERRYN .

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-18

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104. WILLIAM LONG was indicted for stealing a yard and a quarter of linen checque cloth, value 7 d. the property of James Season , January 27th .


I live in Fenchurch-street . On Thursday the 27th of January last, I came home about nine o'clock in the evening, and was told I was robbed. I let the matter go till Saturday; I then took a remnant of cloth in the afternoon; I desired my servant to bring me a small trunk; the boy brought the small trunk into the compting-house. I put another remnant of cloth into the said trunk; I then sent the trunk with a remnant of cloth to the lodgings of the prisoner to his wife. I desired the boy to tell the wife of the prisoner, that Long the prisoner had sent her that piece of cloth in the said trunk. The boy came to me and said -

Court. You must not mention what he said? - My motive for sending the remnant was, that I had the piece brought back again to me that was stolen. After I had obtained my property by that means, I sent for Long into the compting-house; I said sit down in the chair.

What is Long? - My journeyman . He sat down in the chair. I said you have robbed me again, Long. - Robbed you? - he denied it. I said, I have lost many things, locks, skins, and so forth, and if you will inform me where I can obtain them, we will settle the matter now. I did not say a word about the checque; he did not at that time know that I had got the piece of checque from his wife. He declared he had not robbed me of any skins, nor had he robbed me at all. I told him I would send for a constable if he did not confess, and he declared he never robbed me of any thing; that being done I ordered my servant who was in the compting-house to hand me the piece of checque up, that was behind a trunk in the said compting-house; this was the piece of checque that I had sent to his wife. I showed him that piece of checque, and asked him if he knew any thing of it. I told him it was brought into the house. He denied knowing any thing of that piece of checque, then I ordered the boy to hand me the piece of checque he had taken away the night before.

What piece of check was the first you showed him? - The piece I sent to obtain

the piece that was stolen. He knew nothing of that. The piece of checque I then showed him, he confessed he had stolen. I held it to him, and asked him if he knew any thing of it. He said Yes, that was the piece he had taken.

Did he say when or how he took it? - That he took it on Friday evening from the shop. It was concealed behind some of the trunks.

Where was the checque kept? - In a house of mine in Fenchurch-street; not my dwelling-house, but another house I have.

Where was it taken from? - The house that I live in.

Where from? - Out of a three pair of stairs room forward, I think it is.

Was it in any drawer or box? - No; in no drawer or box. He took the checque to line a trunk; this is the remainder which came off, and that was the piece that was cut off of that said piece; he confessed taking it from the shop over the way. This time twelvemonth I lost sundry brass locks.

Court. You must not tell us any thing of that: What did he say about this piece of checque? - That he would pay us for it.

What means did you take to induce him to confess this? - Holding it up in this manner (describing it.)

What did you say to him - did you threaten him? - Yes.

What did you say to him that you would do, if he did not confess? - That I would prosecute him if he did not confess upon the former matter; that was upon the locks and the things I had lost.

I am talking about this checque - What did you tell him you would do to him if he did not confess about this checque? - I did not tell him I would do any thing but send for a constable. I held it up to him in this manner, and he confessed instantly.

What threats did you make use of to induce him to confess he had stolen this piece of checque? - No threats at all.

What promises did you make him to induce him to confess? - No promises at all respecting this piece of checque, only I said I would send for a constable, nothing else.

Did he make any excuse for taking it? - None at all, only that he would pay for it.

What is your boy's name you sent with this? - William Hawkins .


What do you know about this piece of checque? - I brought this piece of checque from the prisoner's house.

Who sent you there? - My master.

Did you know any thing of the piece of checque before - did you ever see it in your master's house? - Yes; I have seen it in my master's house before; there were about twenty yards at first of it.

Did you ever see that little piece cut off? - No.

Do you know that piece of checque again? - Yes.

Where does the prisoner live? - He lodges in Bandyleg-Walk.

You went to his lodgings there - Yes.

Who did you see there? - His wife.

Where did you get this piece of checque? - From the prisoner's.

(The piece of checque produced in court.)

Is that it you had at the prisoner's? - Yes.

Are you sure you have seen it in your master's house? - I never saw it after it was cut; there was a great quantity of it.

To the Prosecutor. Look at that piece of checque, is that your's? - Here is the mark.

What is it marked with? - It is marked with a cross.

You know it again? - Yes.

Is that that the same piece you held up to the prisoner? - Yes, the very same.


I had this piece of checque to line a trunk with. I had more than I wanted. I took a piece to rub it down with, to make it lay smooth after it is lined. I put that piece into my pocket instead of the piece of white that I intended to wash out and bring to shop again. I took it home. My wife said it would serve to make the child a pin-cloth. I said I believed there would be a fine noise if I kept it. My master sent to my wife to send it back again. She sent it back directly.

a piece of waste cheque is never looked on as any thing in the trade.

Court to the Prosecutor. What is your trade? - A trunk-maker .

The prisoner is a journeyman who worked for you? - Yes.

When he said he had taken it, did he say he intended to bring it back? - No; the answer was he would pay me for it.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-19

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105. CHRISTOPHER PLUMLEY otherwise JOHN WILLIAMS was indicted for that he being in the dwelling-house of John Abbott , on the 15th of February , did steal a quart tankard, value 5 l. a silver pepper-castor, value 12 s. and a silver table-spoon, value 5 s. the property of the said John Abbot ; and that being in the said dwelling-house about ten o'clock in the night, of the said day, burglariously did break the dwelling-house of the said John Abbott , to get out of the same against the form of the statute, &c.


I keep the Buffalo's Head in Oxford-road . On Tuesday night the prisoner and another person came into my house about half after eight in the evening; they sat about an hour, drank a couple of tankards of beer, and smoked a pipe of tobacco. The prisoner came to me and said he wanted some supper; I showed him the parlour. He said that would do very well. When the supper was ready I called them out of the great parlour and told them the supper was ready, and followed them with this tankard with the remaining beer in it.

What time was that? - About a quarter or half an hour after nine; when I carried in the supper, I saw no more of them for a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes. I said to my man, these gentlemen must have done with the meat, and desired him to carry in the cheese, which he did. About a quarter of an hour after a person brought in the prisoner, and said to me, do you know this man? I told him that I did know him, for he had just had a supper carried into the little parlour. I opened the door of the parlour, the window was open, there was nobody in the room, and the tankard, the pepper castor, and the silver spoon were gone.

When the man brought him in did you know him again? - Yes; I knew him immediately. The window which was fastened, was open, the window-shutters unbolted, the curtain undrawn, and the candle left alight.

Are you sure when these men were left alone in the room, that the tankard, the pepper castor, and spoon were there? - Yes, I am certain of it; I carried in the tankard, and saw the pepper castor upon the table. He desired to go into the room; I went in with him, and he immediately began to pull the tankard out of his pocket; the lid made a noise; my boy took up his coat and said See! see! he is pulling the tankard out of his pocket; it was in his side-pocket. There was the mark where the beer had run down out of the tankard in his pocket.

Did he say any thing? - No, I do not recollect he said any thing. After that I took him into the great parlour to several gentlemen who were there smoking, to show them how he had served me. There he was further searched, and I saw this pepper box taken from him; it is my property, my name is upon it.

What might be the worth of these things? - Five or six shillings the pepper box, and four or five pounds the tankard. The spoon I have not got yet, that I believe his partner had.

These men were left alone in the room? - Yes.

Cross Examination.

This man was not quite sober I suppose? - I declare upon my oath I did not see that he was the least disguised in liquor; he had been three or four times at my house, and had behaved very decent and genteel.

Had he been in good company in your house? - Yes.

Prisoner. I wish to have the other witnesses examined separate.

(The witnesses were ordered to withdraw.)

Is the parlour in Newman-street, or Oxford-street? - The windows of the large

and little parlour both look into Newman-street.


Last Tuesday se'nnight as I was going from my work about ten o'clock at night, I saw two men jump out of the window of Mr. Abbott's house. I went directly to the window, and seeing nobody in the parlour I suspected there was a robbery. I desired my fellow-servant to follow me, and I directly pursued them into Berners-street.

Did they both go the same way or separate? - Both the same way. I took the prisoner; the other was about ten or a dozen yards before him. I directly brought him back to Mr. Abbott's house, and asked him if he knew any thing of the prisoner; he said he had been there before and had had a supper there.

Did you go in with him when he went into the little parlour? - Yes. Directly as he went in he sidled up to a chair, and dropped the tankard in the chair.

Did you see him do it? - I saw the tankard drop from his clothes. After that we took him out of the little parlour into the great parlour; there I searched him; I took out of his hand a pepper-box, a pocketbook and some keys.

Have you these things in court? - The pepper-box I have; the pocket-book and keys the beadle has.

What sort of keys were they; a bunch of keys? - No, loose keys; one was a street door key with a hinge in the middle to shut it together.


Were you with Wellington last Tuesday se'nnight in the evening going past Mr. Abbott's house? - Yes. Going past, about ten o'clock, we saw two men jump out of the window of the little room. My fellow-servant looked into the room, and seeing nobody, he said there was some mischief done. I followed him to Berners-street, there I collared the prisoner on one side, supposing he was the man who jumped out of the window.

Are you sure he is the man who jumped out of the window? - I cannot say, I lost sight of him; my fellow-servant was before me. We brought him back to Mr. Abbott's. When we brought him in, he was very desirous of going into the room; I said he should not go in till I saw Mr. Abbott. Then he went in; I stood at the door; I saw him with his hand shuffling in his pocket; I heard the tankard rattle, and immediately after I saw it on the chair.

Did you see him further searched in the other room? - Yes, I saw him searched, and the pepper-box taken out of his hand.


How old are you? - Fifteen the first of last April.

Do you live with Mr. Abbott? - Yes.

Do you remember the prisoner coming to your master's house? - Yes.

What silver was in the room with them? - A silver tankard, a pepper castor, and a spoon.

Did you leave them alone? - Yes.

Did you carry in the cheese? - Yes.

Did you attend them? - Yes.

Was the plate there when you took in the cheese? - I did not observe it then, it was there when they went to supper. When I carried in the cheese they seemed to be in a surprise, and one of them sat down in the chair.

Had any body been in the room besides them except you and your master? - No.

Was the window fast? - Yes.

Did you see the prisoner brought in? - Yes. He took the tankard out of a pocket in the lining of his great coat. It was I who bolted the window before they went into the room.


I leave myself to the mercy of the court.

For the Prisoner.

ANN BIRD sworn.

I have known the prisoner between eight and nine months.

What is he? - A master tailor . I never knew any thing of him but what was just and honest. He made a suit of clothes for my husband. He kept a house in Blewitt's-buildings, Fetter-lane.

GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-20
VerdictsNot Guilty

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106, 107. WILLIAM DAVISON and MARY GRIFFIN were indicted, the first for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John Marshall , on the 19th of January , about the hour of six in the night, and stealing a base metal watch, value 20 s. the property of the said John Marshall ; and the other for receiving the above goods well knowing them to be stolen .


I am a watch-maker . On the 19th of January, I had a piece of glass taken out of my window, and a watch stolen thereout.

Was the glass cut out? - There was a jar in it; I had put a piece of putty to it; the putty was taken off and a piece of glass taken out.

Did you see it done yourself? - No, I did not see it done. I missed the watch about six o'clock. There were three boys; I was sitting at tea with my wife; I heard the boys say d - n your eyes, now is the time, they are all in the kitchen; that is a room I have partitioned off the shop. I said to my wife, I will take the show-glasses in, there will be some of the glass broke and something stolen. I went immediately and took the show-glasses in which were on the other side; I went after I had taken the show-glasses in to the other side, where the watches were, to see if they were safe.

Is it a corner shop? - Yes. I hung a watch upon the pin the other was stolen off, not knowing a watch had been stolen, and felt the wind come through the window.

Then you missed the watch? - Yes.

Was it in the show-glass or in the window? - It was in the window in the inside of the shop, beside my work-board, within six or seven inches of the show-glasses. It is a kind of a bow window, I found the watch was gone, and immediately remembered whose watch it was.

When had you put it there? - At dusk.

How long was that before the time you missed it? - About forty minutes or more.

Was it quite dark when you missed it? - Yes. I heard no more of it till the 16th of February, when I had an information that it was pawned that evening. I went up to the pawnbroker's; they owned it had been pawned. One of the evidences had bought it out of pawn. The next day I found it in the possession of Joseph Thompson , at Limehouse.

When did you find it at Thompson's? - The Thursday following, last Thursday.

Who gave you the information which led you to enquire at Thompson's? - Two women; I do not know their names; they are not here. I had taken a person up before who had received it from the boy, in consequence of the information of these women.

Who had you taken up? - Mary Griffin , the same evening I had the information, that was the 16th of February; she immediately confessed to us, and impeached this boy as the person that brought it to her.

What did she confess? - That she had pawned it at Mr. Mashiter's, and had sold it to Joseph Thompson the next day. She had a different duplicate for it, the first duplicate was in her own name. She gave us information that evening, and we took the boy up the chimney, at the Ship and Sheers.

Do you know what age the boy is? - His grandmother said fourteen next October. we went to Joseph Thompson ; he said he had bought the watch of her.

Court. You must not say what Joseph Thompson said.


I am a pawnbroker. On the 19th of January last, about eight in the evening, Mary Griffin , whom I personally knew, brought me the watch, and asked me half a guinea on it; I asked her if it was was her property; she said no, it belonged to her brother, that he was just come from sea, and had a great deal of money owing him, but could get none. I lent her half a guinea upon it, and gave her the duplicate. She lives about one hundred yards from my house. The next day she brought Joseph Thompson and delivered me the duplicate I gave her, and desired he might have it for the same money. Thompson laid her down some money; I believe it was six shillings, and in about five hours after he came again and paid the half guinea which Mary Griffin had had on the watch.


I am a sawyer at Limehouse. I went to the Swan publick-house, the top of New Gravel-lane; the prisoner Mary Griffin was there offering a watch to sell to several people.

The woman was offering a watch to sell? - The duplicate of a watch. I went up to her and asked her what she had got to sell; she told me she had got a watch in pawn for half a guinea, and she wanted to sell it out; she wanted a little money to go to Billingsgate to buy her some fish. I went with her to the pawnbroker's, and looked at it. I gave her six shillings and left it in pawn for the half guinea.

To Marshall. How much do you look upon this watch to be worth? - About seven or eight and twenty shillings.

To Thompson. Did you know Griffin before? - I never saw her to my knowledge in my life before.

Did you ask her how she came by it? - Yes; she said it was her brother's, that he gave her leave to sell it. I little thought it was a stolen watch while it was in pawn.

Did not you make any enquiry of the pawnbroker if he knew the woman or how she came by it? - No, I made no further enquiries about it. The watch-maker and Farrel came to me and asked me if I had such a watch; I said I had; and went with them to Justice Sherwood's, and delivered up the watch.

From Griffin. Did you pay me for the watch?

Thompson. Yes.


I am headborough of St. Paul's, Shadwell. On the 16th of February Mr. Marshall sent a man for an officer; I went and took Griffin out of bed, and she told me to take Davison, and said he was the lad who gave her the watch; I went to his mother's lodging; she would not let me into the room for some time; at last she let me in, but I could find nobody in the room but her, at last I looked up the chimney, and found Davison half way up the chimney.

You took him? - Yes.

Do you know the boy or his mother? - I know his mother, she used to deal in fish. The next day I went down to Thompson to Mr. Greaves's yard, and asked him about the watch; he delivered the watch to me, and I brought him in custody to Mr. Sherwood's.

(The watch was produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutor.)


One night, after I had sold my sprats, I went into a house, and this boy and one Gardiner came in and said he had found a watch in some mud; I did not know it was stolen, or I would not have pawned it in my neighbourhood, in my own name.


I do not know what to say.

- DAVISON sworn.

I am the prisoner Davison's mother. He was twelve years old last October; he has behaved very well. He goes a grigging for his living. My husband is a journeyman shipwright. I sell fish.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-21
VerdictNot Guilty

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108, 109. PETER SEDDON and JOHN TANN were indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Elisabeth Day , widow , on the 6th of January , about the hour of six in the night and stealing six silver tea-spoons, value 4 s. 6 d. eight yards of printed cotton, value 48 s. and four guineas in monies, numbered, the property of the said Elisabeth Day , in her dwelling-house .

(The witnesses were called, but did not appear.)


23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-22
VerdictNot Guilty

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110. THOMAS MORGAN was indicteed for stealing 552 pair of breeches silk knee-garters, value 10 l. the property of Richard Carpenter and Peter Chasley , February 14th .

2d Count. Laying them to be the property of Harbin Elderton .

3d Count. Laying them to be the property of William Brookes .


I was employed by Mr. Elderton, who is an auctioneer , to remove some goods from Mr. Palmer's, a bankrupt, a man's mercer, in St. Martin's-lane to Mr. Elderton's in Bow-church-yard. I was in possession of the house; I employed a cart to take the goods away on the 14th of February.

Who did you employ? - Joseph Woolley . The prisoner was employed in removing1 some other goods which belonged to the bankrupt, which were purchased for him at the sale of the goods. Woolley and the prisoner assisted one another in removing the goods.

Who were you removing the goods for? - Mr. Elderton the auctioneer, who was employed by the assignees, Messrs. Richard Carpenter and Peter Chasley , to sell the goods; they had been sold at the sale, but not delivered to the buyers, and having occasion to quit the premisses, we were removing them to Mr. Elderton's. The garters mentioned in the indictment were made up in a parcel, there were 522 of them, I made them up in a parcel and laid them on the compter to go with other things by Woolley. I thought they were not secure in the paper they were in, and sent Woolley to get some brown paper; I tied them up in the brown paper and laid them on the compter for the purpose of loading in the cart; that was the last I saw of it; I missed it about half an hour after we had unloaded the cart at home.

Who was in the house at the time you put it on the compter? - The prisoner, Woolley, Nathaniel Pass , a maid servant, and one Foster, a shopman. The shop was open; nobody had any business to go in or out but the porters employed about the goods.

Who unloaded the cart? - Joseph Woolley , the carman, and Harper, one of the porters.

Did you make any enquiry after it when you missed it? - Yes, of Woolley. I never heard of its being found till after the prisoner was in custody. I know nothing of the finding of it.

Prisoner. Did you employ me to load the cart? - I did not employ him; he assisted Woolley, because Woolley had helped him to get the things down stairs.


I was employed to load the cart with some goods to be carried from Mr. Palmer's in St. Martin's-lane, to Bow-Church-yard. I assisted the prisoner and Pass. Myers sent me for some brown paper. I saw him make up the parcel, and lay it on the compter; that was the last I saw of it. I did not know but some of the other porters had put it in the cart. When I unloaded the cart, I did not observe whether or no it was in the cart: there were some circumstances that led me to suspect the prisoner. I went after him, and on the Friday evening following I sent for him to a publick-house, the corner of St. Martin's-court, and asked him about the parcel. He gave me some ill language. I got a constable and had him taken up. When we were together I said, it was very hard for me, for my master charged me thirteen pounds for that parcel. He said, Well then, I will tell you where the parcel is; I have got it, and if you will go with me you shall have it. The constable went with him and I followed him to his lodging. When we came to his lodging, I asked his wife for the parcel. She fell a crying, and said she had taken it to a house by the New-Church in the Strand; if you will go with me I will go and fetch it. The constable and one of the justice's runners went with her and returned in about an hour to the publick-house with the parcel.

Did you look at the parcel when they brought it? - Yes; the garters were in a bag, some of them were turned out upon the table before the justice. I believe them to be the same garters, I cannot positively say.

What was said to induce him to confess? - Nothing; only I said it was very hard for me to pay thirteen pounds. His apartment was below stairs, under ground.

Prisoner. He said he must make them good, and if I would deliver them up to him, he would be very friendly to me? - I did not.


I was the bankrupt's servant. I was drinking in the publick-house. I said to Morgan if you know any thing of these things tell me. Presently Joseph Woolley and another man came into the box, and then Morgan said the parcel was at his house in Tower-street, Seven Dials.

Who did he tell it to? - All three of us; we were in the box together. We had a strong suspicion that he had the parcel.

What was said to him before he confessed this? - I asked him whether he knew any thing of the parcel or not, and then he said directly, the parcel I will fetch you in five minutes.

There was nothing said to induce him to confess? - Nothing at all. His wife fell a crying, and said, she had taken the parcel out of the house, and would go and fetch it.

How did you know she was his wife? - They lived together as man and wife. I went with her to one Mr. Sharpe's, a stationer, by the New Church in the Strand. I stopped on the outside. The man who has the things went in with her. In the morning I told him if he knew any thing of the parcel, and would tell us, I would be a friend to him; he said then that he knew nothing about it.

Did you repeat that when he confessed in the publick-house? - No; it was four or five hours after I said I would be a friend to him that he confessed.


I have a parcel of silk knee-garters that were advertised. I think there are forty-eight dozen (producing them.)

Myers. I believe these to be the garters that were lost.

Do you know who had bought them at the sale? - One William Brookes , I believe.

Had he paid any thing in part? - No.

To Norman. Was you present when the parcel was found? - Yes.

Was you present when the prisoner confessed having them? - Yes; I was with Woolley and Pass, sitting by him. He was asked if he knew any thing about them; he hummed and ayed some time, and then he said knew of them, and if I would go along with him, he would show me where they were. I went with him to his lodging in Tower-street; he lodged down in the kitchen, under ground. He asked his wife where the brown paper bag was, she fell a crying directly, and said if I would go along with her she would go and show me. I went with her to a stationer's shop opposite the New Church in the Strand.

Did you go into the house with her? - Yes; she went down into the kitchen; I followed her; when I got down some of the garters were in her apron, some in a bag, and some on a board.

Are these the things you found? - Yes; I carried them back to Morgan; he said he found them in St. Martin's-lane. He said he kept them because he thought they would be advertised, and he should have a reward for them.

To Pass. You assisted in loading this cart? - Yes.

Do you remember seeing the parcel? - I never saw it after it was tied up.

To Woolley. Was this parcel one of the last things to be put in the cart? - It was very near the last.

Was it a covered cart, or an open cart? - An open cart, a common town cart.

Was it pretty full? - About as high as the sides of the cart. There were some chests of drawers, and a bed on the copse of the cart.

From the Prisoner. Whether the parcel was put in the cart? - I never saw it taken off the compter to be put into the cart.

You published a hand-bill? - Yes (producing it). I and Pass went to deliver them all round the trade. Myers got them printed; they were brought to our house to be distributed.

Court. Did you read the bills before you distributed them? - Yes.

The bill says,

"Lost or stolen out of a cart on Friday last, between St. Martin's-lane and Bow-Church-yard," &c. Did you tell your master or Mr. Myers that the bill

was wrong? - No. My master asked me if I followed the cart, I said yes. He said, was I sure it was in the cart; I said I did not see it in the cart at all.

To Myers. Did you direct the printing of the hand-bill? - Yes.


I found the parcel in St. Martin's-lane. It was very wet. I carried it home and put it out of the paper into the bag. I did not know whose they were.

To Woolley. Did you follow the cart immediately? - No; I overtook it just as it came to Chandos-street.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-23
VerdictNot Guilty

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111. DANIEL MILLS was indicted for stealing a leather pocket-book, value 4 s. the property of Elisabeth Ely , spinster , and a Bank-note, value 10 l. the money payable and secured by the said note, being due and unsatisfied to the said Elisabeth Ely , the proprietor thereof , January 12th .


On Tuesday night the 11th of January, I was out. On Wednesday morning the 12th, I lost my pocket-book in a hackney-coach which set me down in Leadenhall-street. I did not miss it till some hours after. I had it in my hand in the coach; I meant to put it into my pocket. I suppose I put it past my pocket. I missed it looking for a knife that was in it, and had it advertised.

What time was it? - After twelve when the coach set me down. There was a gentleman in the coach with me who went further, and whom I left in the coach. That gentleman was a stranger to me; he had been in company where I had been; his name is Wilson; I do not know his Christian name, nor who, nor what he was, only I fell in company with him where I was.


On Wednesday morning the 12th of January, I was at the prisoner's house, who is a coachman, the prisoner was in bed. His wife showed me a Bank-note, I read it, and observed it was a 10 l. note.


The prisoner's wife on the same day the last witness spoke to, gave me a 10 l. Banknote to change, which I did change for her with a Mr. Matthews.

- MATTHEWS sworn.

I changed a 10 l. note for Watkins, I paid it away in the course of business, but have no recollection to whom I paid it, nor know nothing about the particular marks of the note.


I am one of Sir John Fielding 's men. On the 25th of January the prosecutrix's uncle came to the office about this pocket-book and bank-note. Upon some information given by them, I went to Mills's house, he

was not at home. I found him in a stable-yard where he is employed. I asked him about it, he went with great readiness to his lodging. He showed a readiness to give every information he could respecting this book. I asked for the book, he and his wife said, they had not got it. He said he was sorry for what had been done, and wished his wife had taken her brother's advice, and carried the book back again after they had seen the advertisement. (The note was changed before.) The prisoner said he found the book in the coach. The prisoner's wife told the young man where to go; he went and fetched it. The prisoner said that was the book he found in the coach. He seemed very willing to give every information about it. I did not hear him say whether he knew who the book belonged to or not.

(The pocket-book was produced in court, and deposed to by the prosecutrix.)

Prosecutrix. The Bank-note was in the book when I lost it. It was in the book at twelve o'clock in the day. I had not seen it afterwards. The book had been left by me upon the table where I was. I cannot tell how long it had lain there; it was given to me in the coach.

Have you seen Mr. Wilson since? - No.

Have you made any enquiry after him since? - No; I have not.


I know nothing of it.

(The prisoner called two witnesses who gave him a good character.)


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-24
SentencesCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment > hard labour

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112. 113. 114. HENRY NEWTH , JOHN BUSHBY , and RICH. THOMPSON were indicted, the two first for stealing six bushels of coals, value 7 s. the property of William Tucker , and the other for receiving the above goods well knowing them to have been stolen , January 14th .


I keep a coal wharf at Trig-Stairs . On the 14th of January I ordered five chaldron of coals to be carried to Mr. Burton from my wharf to Knightsbridge ; Newth, Bushby, and Burton were the persons I employed in this business. I am sometimes employed by other people to carry coals, when that is the case, I am responsible by agreement to those persons, if the coals are lost or miscarry. The Saturday after I had ordered my men to carry these coals, I was informed they had not all been delivered, then I took up Newth and Bushby; I asked them in my compting-house how the coals came to be deficient - the men had taken them out, they would not tell how or where they had delivered them. I carried them before the sitting alderman; there Newth, Bushby, and Burton all acknowledged they had taken the coals out of the cart and sold them, Bushby insisted by way of excuse at the time, that it was not out of his cart; but he acknowledged he had received the money for these coals, which was four shillings and twopence. Afterwards I carried these three servants before Sir John Fielding , there they all acknowledged they had taken out these coals. Thompson was carried before Sir John Fielding , he acknowledged buying these two sacks of the prisoners. He said they were not full; that he gave 4 s. 3 d. for the coals, and gave the men a glass of rum each. He said they were shot into his cellar.

What were the coals worth? - They were fairly worth seven shillings and threepence. At first the three servants would not tell where they had disposed of the coals; upon which I said if you will not tell I shall compel you to it. When I had paid them their wages I asked what the account was. I had heard the coals had been taken out, then it was they confessed they had taken them.


I am one of the persons that were employed in carrying these coals. The two prisoners, Newth and Bushby, and I, were going up Piccadilly with them; we stopped at Thompson's, he keeps a publick-house there; we drank gin at his house. Newth asked him if he wanted any coals,

Thompson made some answer, but spoke in so low a voice I could not hear what he said, but immediately upon that answer being given to Newth, Newth took two sacks of coals out of his cart and carried them down into Thompson's cellar, then Newth went to the bar, and received four shillings and two-pence in money of Thompson for these coals, and then we had four glasses of rum betwixt us, which were given into the bargain. All the sacks were full.


I am servant to Mr. Burton. Mr. Burton had ordered five chaldron of coals; I was directed to see whether they were properly delivered. Two sacks were wanting when they were delivered.


I know nothing of what I am accused with.


I know nothing at all of the matter.

Thompson. I leave my defence to my counsel.

For Thompson.


Thompson keeps the Red-Lion in Piccadilly. I was there when the transaction happened. I did not take particular notice of what passed. The prisoners were drinking there. A friend of mine who was standing with me said to Thompson, What have you coals coming in? He said No, only two sacks I have bought of these men; upon that I took no farther notice. There was no appearance of concealment.

(The prisoner called two other witnesses who said he bore a good character.)


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Justice BULLER.

[Whipping. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-25
VerdictNot Guilty

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115. SUSANNAH the wife of Thomas PIGOT was indicted for stealing three yards of cotton, value 2 s. a pair of plated candlesticks, value 1 s. a window-curtain, value 1 s. three bed vallances, value 6 d. three chair covers, value 6 d. and a china bowl, value 1 s. the property of William King , February 16th .


I lost the things mentioned in the indictment (repeating them) out of a two-pair of stairs room, on Sunday se'nnight. I had seen them there about three or four days before.

Does any body sleep there? - Yes; a gentleman who boards and lodges with me; he is not here. The prisoner was my servant . When I missed the things, I took her up on suspicion, and promised to forgive her if she would confess, and she confessed taking them.

Do you know any further of her taking the things than she confessed? - No.


I am a pawn-broker. A person of the name of Ann Harvey pawned a candlestick, three yards and a half of cotton, and a punch bowl with me. She said she was employed by Mrs. Pigott, in whose name she pawned them.

(They were produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutor.)


Mrs. Pigott gave me those things last Friday se'nnight, and desired me to pawn them for her; I pawned them with Mr. Whitlock on the Saturday.

Did you make any enquiry how she came by them? - No; she was a woman that lived in very good credit; I had no reason to doubt that she came honestly by them.


I am a constable of St. Paul's, Covent-Garden. The prosecutor sent for me and informed me he had been robbed; and suspected the prisoner. I went up stairs into her apartment, and found a window-curtain between the bed and the sacking.

Was her master present when you found it? - Yes. I found three chair covers in Mrs. Harvey's lodging.

Harvey. I had the chair covers from the prisoner to pawn, but had not pawned them.

(They were produced in court, and deposed to by the prosecutor.)

To the Prosecutor. You was present when

Halliburton found the window curtain? - Yes.

What room was it in? - The prisoner's room; it belonged to the opposite room.

Was it up? - No; lying in the room.


My master promised to pardon me if I restored the things, upon my word, and not to prosecute me.

To the Prosecutor. Was it the confession the prisoner made that led you to the discovery of the things pawned with Whitlock, and the things you found? - Yes.

Had you found any of the things before the promise? - Not any.

Did you find any of the things but in consequence of that promise? - No; except the curtain.

Did you make the promise before you sent for the constable? - Yes.

Did she tell you where the curtain was? - She lifted up the bed to show us where the curtain was, but said nothing about it.

Do you think it is likely that the curtain would have been found if she had not so done? - No.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-26
VerdictGuilty > theft under 1s
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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116. MARY SMITH was indicted for stealing two linen gowns, value 2 s. a stuff gown; value 1 s. three linen aprons, value 2 s. a linen handkerchief, value 4 d. and a pair of plated shoe-buckles, value 6 d. the property of Frances Robinson , November 1st .


On the 1st of November I lost the things mentioned in the indictment (repeating them.) Mary Smith and I, and another woman, all lodged in one room. There were two beds in the room. Mary Smith lay in one bed by herself. In the morning Mary Smith complained of her bowels being very bad; she got up and went down stairs two or three times; we were in bed at the time. She brought a young girl up stairs with her; the young woman who was in bed with me said to the girl she brought up with her, Susannah, will you light the fire? She said Yes, I will. The young woman who was in bed with me then turned round to me and we fell asleep and slept about ten minutes. When we waked we missed the things off the table; we laid them on the table when we undressed ourselves.

How came three of your gowns on the table at once - you had not them all on? - I am not sure that they were all lying on the table, they were on the table or chairs. When we waked, the prisoner and the other young woman were gone. We found two gowns in the morning at one Mrs. Richardson's, a pawnbroker, in Lewkner's-lane, Drury-lane; they were found by Ann King , the other young woman.

Is she here? - No. I went to the pawnbroker's and saw them lying there.

You never found any of the other things at all? - No. The prisoner went off for ten weeks I believe. I never saw her again till I saw her at Sir John Fielding 's. They came and told me she was taken up. The pawnbroker had stopped her; before the justice she denied taking the things.


I am servant to Mrs. Richardson, a pawnbroker, in Lewkner's-lane, Drury-lane. On the 1st of November, about nine o'clock in the morning, the prisoner and Mary Fletcher came and pawned two gowns, one a stuff, and the other a linen one, in the name of Mary Fletcher . Frances Robinson and Ann King came and saw the things behind the compter. They went to Sir John Fielding 's and he ordered the things to be taken up there. When I came there Sir John finding the woman in distress, having no clothes to put on, ordered me to deliver them up, and told me if the prisoner came again, to charge an officer with her, and take her up. She came again about a month ago, and ordered the gowns to be brought down in the name of Mary Fletcher . I pretended to go up stairs, but went to the door and sent for an officer and stopped her.

Did you ask her any questions about them? - No.

Should you know the gowns again? - No; I have seen one of the gowns on the young woman's back.

Is that the gown she has on now? - I cannot say; it was a black gown.

To the Prosecutrix. Is that gown you have on one of the gowns you had from the pawnbroker? - Yes.

That is one of the gowns that were lost? - Yes.

Have you the other here? - No. I was obliged to make money of it to get me a pair of shoes.

Was the name of the young woman that came in with her Fletcher? - Yes, Susannah Fletcher .

Blackburn. They were pawned in the name of Fletcher, but there is written at the bottom Ann Smith , Crown-court, the place where she lodged.


When I went out in the morning, I left Susannah Fletcher in the room, I know nothing of the things being stolen. I saw Susannah Fletcher afterwards, and she said she had two gowns in pawn, that if I would fetch them out, I should have them for two shillings more than they were pawned for. If I had known that they had been stolen, I would not have gone to have fetched stolen goods out.

To the Prosecutrix. How came you to go to Richardson's to look for the things? - The other young woman went to fetch a gown of her's out of pawn, and saw them there behind the compter.

GUILTY of stealing the goods to the value of 10 d .

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Whipping. See summary.] [Whipping. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-27
VerdictGuilty > theft under 1s
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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117. MARY WILLIAMS was indicted for stealing two cloth coats, value 20 s. two cloth waistcoats, value 10 s. a pair of cloth breeches, value 5 s. a linen shirt, value 2 s. a pair of cotton stockings, value 4 s. a pair of leather gloves, value 6 d. a linen handkerchief, value 6 d. and a steel watch chain, value 6 d. the property of James Thomas , February 14th .


On Monday se'nnight I lost the things mentioned in the indictment (repeating them) out of my room in King-street, Seven Dials . I saw them there at two o'clock. I was working backwards in the shop. The lock of my chest was out of repair; I had taken it off in the morning and went up at four o'clock to put it on, and found the lock of the room door picked; the door was pulled to; I went to put the key in, and it flew open, and the things mentioned in the indictment were gone. My partner locked the room door after dinner, and brought down the key. I came down and told my partner, and we went to Sir John Fielding 's. Sir John bid us go round to all the pawnbrokers, which I did, and left a description of the clothes. The prisoner was stopped by a pawnbroker in Hanway-yard just after.

When did you see her? - In the office just after she was taken up. I never saw her before, to my knowledge.


I belong to the Rotation-Office in Litchfield-street. I was sent for to the pawnbroker's, the corner of Hanway-yard, last Monday week, about six o'clock at night. I found the things on the compter, and the prisoner in the box. I asked her if she owned the things, she said yes. I searched her, and found two keys and a handkerchief upon her. I asked her whose handkerchief that was; she said her own. As I was taking her to the office, I asked her how she came by the things; she said she had them from a young man who was to give her a shilling to pawn them. I asked her where he lived, she said she did not know. I asked her what trade he was; she said a watch-chaser; then she said he was a watch-engraver, and then she said he was a shoe-maker. She said he was a tall man in a great coat, buttoned up; that he was at a publick-house. I went with her to the publick-house, and desired her to show me the man; she said what signified her going in, perhaps he might not be there.

I went in and enquired, but could not find any such person. She never acknowledged where she had the things.

(The things were produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutor.)

To the Prosecutor. When you came out of the room at two o'clock, did you lock the door after you? - No; I left Belcher in the room.


The prosecutor lodges along with me. Last Monday week I was in his room, at two o'clock. I staid no longer than while I ate my dinner. There was nobody there but myself. When I came out, I locked the door. When he went up at four o'clock he came and told me the door was broke open. When the prisoner was taken, she gave two false accounts of her lodging.

To the Prosecutor. Do you know any thing of the prisoner? - No.

To Belcher. Do you know any thing of her? - No.

Are there any other lodgers in your house? - Yes. It is a lodging-house; the rooms are let out.


A young man gave me the things to pawn, and said he would give me a shilling for my trouble. He said they were his own; that it was no harm to pawn them. I went to pawn them, and the pawnbroker stopped me, and sent for one of the runners. When I went back to the publick-house, I suppose he saw the runner with me, and made off. I never could find him since. I know nothing of the things.

GUILTY of stealing to the value of 10 d .

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Whipping. See summary.] [Whipping. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-28
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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118. MARY WARWICK was indicted for stealing a pair of linen sheets, value 14 s. a pillow-case, value 1 s. and a cotton nightcap, value 1 s. the property of Thomas Twyne , January 25th .


I keep a publick-house . On the 25th of January the prisoner was found in my house, in a two-pair-of-stairs room, at twelve o'clock at night; I was in bed at the time; I was called up, and saw her in the room. She said a gentleman had sent her up stairs and told her he would come to her soon.


I am servant to Mr. Twyne. On the 25th of January, about twelve o'clock at night or a little after, I was going to light a gentleman to bed; I heard a foot go up before me; I looked into the two pair-of-stairs room and saw the prisoner sitting in a chair just by the window, with her hands before her, and the things mentioned in the indictment were taken off the bed. I had a candle in my hand, and the gentleman I was lighting to bed was behind me. I went into the room and asked her how she came there; she said a gentleman sent her up there, that he was a tall thin man in brown clothes, with a toupee; that he bid her go up stairs and stay till morning, and he would let her out; that she was sitting on the stairs, but when she heard me coming up stairs, she went up and sat down in the room.

When had you been in the room before? - I made the bed that day, and put the things to rights. The other servants had been in the room to turn the bed down about ten o'clock. They are not here. The sheets were wrapped up on the bed, and the night-cap, pillow-case, and the towel were on the ground by the side of the bed. The bed was unmade, the sheets were on the bed, the pillow-case on the pillow when I made the bed. I imagine she was coming down with them, but on hearing me coming up stairs, returned into the room, and threw them on the bed. I asked her what she was doing with the things; she made me no answer.


On Tuesday the 25th of January, I stopped at the prosecutor's house. I followed the last witness into the room, and saw the prisoner sitting in the corner of the room by the window. The things were as she has described them. When she was asked about

the things she made no answer. She said she was sent up there by a gentleman.


I have nothing to support me but singing of ballads. I came up to town to buy some ballads. I went to this house. I thought I could get a cast there in the morning to Hounslow for sixpence. A gentleman was making water at the door; he told me he would make me a handsome present if I would sleep with him all night, and bid me go up to this room. I went and sat on the stairs; I thought I heard him coming up, and went and sat down in the room.

To Aston. What were the things worth that were taken off the bed? - Seven or eight shillings.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Whipping. See summary.] [Whipping. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-29
VerdictGuilty > theft under 1s
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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119. ANN MOULDS , spinster , was indicted for stealing a silk gown, value 3 s. a silk mode cloak, value 10 s. 6 d. three yards and a half of linen, value 4 s. and a silk handkerchief, value 1 s. the property of William Fuller , February 7th .


I am the wife of the prosecutor. I live at Clerkenwell . On the 7th of this month, between ten and eleven o'clock, I went down in the yard for a pail of water; I lodge up three pair of stairs; I stopped a little at the first pair of stairs; going up to my lodging I heard a noise up stairs, and I met the prisoner coming down. I asked her who she wanted; she said a mantua-maker. I asked her the mantua-maker's name; she said Mrs. Wood. I asked her what she wanted with Mrs. Wood; she said she had got a gown of her's. I said no such person lived in the house, nor in the neighbourhood, that I knew of; then she drew from under her cloak in her hand a dirty towel. I suspected it was mine; at the second look I found it was not mine. Seeing she had a great bundle in a checque apron, I asked her to let me look what she had got in her apron, she willingly let me, and I saw in her apron the things mentioned in the indictment.

(They were produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutrix.)

Did you know her before? - No. She said she found them in the entry. They were in my drawer when I went down stairs.

Prisoner. Whether she did not say at the justice's that she took them up in the entry? - She dropped them when the constable came up, and they were upon the landing-place when he came up.


I live up one pair of stairs in the same house with the prosecutor; Mrs. Fuller called somebody to come up stairs, and said she was robbed. I went up, and saw the prisoner upon her stairs, which are the third pair, near the bottom; she had something in her apron; it was quite full. I put my hand in her apron, and saw they were the prosecutrix's property; I knew them very well, because we had lived in the house many years.

Prisoner. The things lay in the entry; Mrs. Fuller wanted me to put them up in my apron, and said if I did not take them up she could not hurt me.

Did any thing of that sort pass? - Finch. No; not when I was there; she begged to be let go.


My mistress sent me to ask at this place for one Mrs. Wood, a mantua-maker, to come and try a gown on she was making for her. Going up the second pair of stairs, I met Mrs. Fuller coming down with a pail of water; she asked me where I was going; I said up to the garret to ask for Mrs. Wood, she said no such person lived there. She said I had been to rob her place; she took up a gown and cloak, and said I had been to rob her. She wanted me to take the things; when I would not, she said she would do for me; she called up this woman, and then sent for her husband, who sent for a constable.

GUILTY of stealing to the value of 10 d .

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. BARON PERRYN

[Whipping. See summary.] [Whipping. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-30
SentenceMiscellaneous > fine; Imprisonment

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120. JANE FORD was indicted for stealing a silver watch, value 30 s. a steel watch chain, value 1 s. a base metal watch key, value 1 d. a padlock key, value 1 d. and a glass seal set in base metal, value 2 s. the property of James Walker , January 28th .


I had been at a friend's to spend the evening. In my return home I met the prisoner at the bar in Windmill-street; I went home with her to her lodging. I wound up my watch in her apartment. When I got up in the morning, I went to put on my clothes; I put my hand in my pocket and missed it.

What you laid there all night? - I did. When I found my watch missing I charged her with stealing it. She denied it very strongly. I went to a friend who came up with me to the prisoner's lodging again. She was going out at that time. We met her and desired her to go back to her own lodging, which she did. I offered her five shillings if she would return my watch; she denied having it. We then took her to Bow-street, before Sir John Fielding . Mr. Halliburton was there; he searched her, and found the watch in her pocket. I saw him take it out of her pocket.

(The watch was produced in court by William Halliburton , and deposed to by the prosecutor.)

From the Prisoner. Whether he did not leave the watch for sleeping all night with me, till such time as he came to redeem it the next morning? - I never said any such word.

Did you leave it with her? - No. I left my clothes and my watch in the other room, and in the morning when I went to put on my clothes, I found my watch and some silver which I had in my pocket, were gone.


I was going along King-street, Covent-Garden; the prosecutor followed me and asked me if I would go and drink any thing. He treated me with a glass of brandy. He went home with me, and he asked me if I chose any thing more to drink; we had a pot of gin hot; he gave me a shilling to fetch it. He said, I have got no money about me, but if you will take my watch till the morning, I will come and redeem it. He was gone four hours, then he brought a constable; the constable asked me if I had got the watch. I said I had; that he left it with me for sleeping with me all night. The prosecutor said, give me my watch, I will give you five shillings. I said no, that was not the agreement, that he promised to give me half a guinea, and if he would give me that I would give him his watch. I offered to give it him if he would give me the half guinea.

Court to the Prosecutor. Did you agree to give her half a guinea? - I did not.

Nor leave your watch for any money? - I did not upon my oath.


I was told that there was a constable wanting in Russel-street, that a woman had stolen a gentleman's watch. I went, and found Mr. Walker bringing the prisoner along. I assisted to bring her into the office. In the office I asked if she had been searched; they said no. I said, you have done wrong not to search her before now; she has certainly disposed of the watch by this time. I searched her; there was nothing in the right-hand pocket; with great difficulty I got hold of the left-hand pocket, and pulled the pocket off before I could get my hand into it, she resisted so much; there I found this watch. She denied having the watch till I found it.

Prisoner. That gentleman who stands there was not the man who brought me before the justice. He said, will you give me the watch? I said I had it in my pocket but would not deliver it without the gentleman delivered me the half guinea he agreed for; then he took it by force out of my pocket.

Court. Is that true? - Halliburton. It is not; no such thing passed; she denied having the watch.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

[Fine. See summary.] [Imprisonment. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-31
VerdictGuilty > theft under 1s
SentenceMiscellaneous > fine; Imprisonment

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121. FRANCES BRIGGS was indicted for stealing a cloth coat, value 4 s. a cloth waistcoat, value 2 s. the property of James Butterfield , and a linen sheet, value 2 s. the property of Joseph East , February 9th .


(Produces the coat, waistcoat, and sheet.)

The coat and waistcoat are my property; the sheet is the property of Joseph East . They were at the house of Mr. East where I lodged.


This sheet is my property. Mr. Butterfield had lodged at my house, and had left a coat and waistcoat there.


I was going down Little Ayliffe-street, and the string of my patten broke; while I was mending it, I saw the prisoner and two other women go into Mr. East's house, and I saw them all come out again. The prisoner had a sheet hanging below her clothes. I went immediately into Mrs. East and enquired whether they had been selling any thing to these women. She told me she had not; upon which I told her she must then have been robbed. The prisoner was soon after stopped with the things upon her, and I saw all the things in her possession.


I pursued the prisoner, and stopped her; she threw the things upon the paved stones, and said if they were the property of the persons present, they might take them.


I saw the prisoner throw the things out of her apron; she was taken to a publick-house, in order to be put into the custody of a constable, then she said she bought them in the street.


I deal in old clothes, I bought them in the street.

GUILTY of stealing to the value 10 d .

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron PERRYN .

[Fine. See summary.] [Imprisonment. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-32
VerdictNot Guilty > fault

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122. MARY DAVISON was indicted for stealing a pair of linen sheets, value 10 s. and two linen pillow cases, value 2 s. the property of John Nix , January 18 .

Owing to an error in the indictment the prisoner was found NOT GUILTY .

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-33

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123. 124. CHRISTOPHER BURROWS and JOHN BURDEN were indicted for that they, in a certain field and open place near the king's highway, in and upon Sarah, the wife of Josiah Gifford , did make an assault, putting her in corporal fear and danger of her life, and stealing a woman's red cloth cloak, value 4 s. and a woman's black silk hat, value 3 s. the property of the said Josiah, from the person of the said Sarah , February 12th .


On the 12th of February I had been to Sir Thomas Fawkes 's. I crossed Piccadilly and came into the Green Park, at the gate opposite to Clerges street. As soon as I entered the gate I saw two men; the evening was drawn in so that I did not see the colour of their clothes; I went down the Park that is called the Queen's Park ; they went apace; I followed them; I was rather happy to see two men before me, as it was a lonesome place; when I got down the Park they turned short, ran upon me, and beat me down.

You followed the men? - Yes, I did; I never saw their faces, nor they mine; they turned short, and ran quick at me and knocked me down. When I was down I saw one behind and the other before me; I was apprehensive they were going to cut my throat; I halloo'd out; there was a sentry near; the men might imagine the sentry would be alarmed, they snatched my hat and cloak immediately and away they ran.

Do you know who those two men were? - No: I never swore to their persons. As I was going to my own home, in Peter-street, at the bottom of Strutton-ground, I saw two soldier s, one was showing a cloak to the other; he said to the other, go in and pawn it there. I directly followed Burrows into the pawnbroker's shop; supposing them to be the men who had robbed me. As he was showing the cloak to the pawnbroker, I snatched it out of his hand, said it was mine, and asked him where he got it? He said it was his wife's.

I said, I believed he was the villain who had knocked me down.

Was it your cloak? - Yes; it was the same cloak that had been snatched off my back. Burrows said it was so, he would take me where I might have my hat and all.

At first he said it was his wife's cloak? - Yes; I said, I must know how his wife came by that cloak; then he said, as it had happened so, if I would be at peace he would take we where my hat was.

Was the other prisoner in his company? - They were both together; when he found Burrows was detained in the pawnbroker's shop he went home to his lodgings; I detained Burrows till the constable was sent for; I had a great scuffle with him in the pawnbroker's shop; when I insisted upon its being my cloak, he violently seised my arm, but I would not let him go upon any account; we kept him till the constable came; then we took him before Justice Jordain in Petty France; the other prisoner Burden was then brought before the Justice; they both there confessed that they were the men who committed the fact.

Did you say that you would not prosecute them, or give them any hopes of favour? - I did not.

Was any menance made use of to induce them to confess? - No: there was not; it was all voluntary.

Burrows. She came to us in Tothilfields; we begged mercy of her; she said that she would prosecute us for the sake of the reward.

Prosecutrix. I did not say any such thing, there is a person here who was with me; the thought never entered my heart.

Burden. She did say that; a great many heard her say so.


I am servant to Mr. Miller, a pawnbroker, at the corner of Strutton-ground. On Saturday the 12th of Feb. between the hours of eight and nine in the evening, the prisoner Burrows came into our shop with a red cloak under his arm, but before he had an opportunity of giving me the cloak, the prosecutrix came in directly after him, and snatched the cloak out of his hand, and she informed me she had been knocked down by two soldiers, and robbed of it; upon that declaration I sent for a constable and gave him charge of Burrows.


This woman's hat (producing it) I found in Burden's room.

Prosecutrix. This is my hat which was snatched off my head at that time.

Court. Was the cloak upon your person at the time when you was knocked down? - It was; it was pinned; if it had been tied their pulling so violently might have been fatal to me.

To Jones. Where did you take Burden? - I took him in the room where I found the hat; he put the candle out when he heard me coming up stairs.

JOHN BEST sworn.

I am a constable of the Parish. I was sent for to the pawnbroker's; they gave me charge of Burrows; we took him before the Justice; we had intelligence where Burden was to be found. The last witness went to his lodgings and brought him before the Justice.

Did they give any account how they came by this cloak and hat? - No: Burden acknowledged the fact before the Justice.

Was that confession voluntary? - It was. They were examined separately.

Did Burrows say how he came by that cloak? - No.


As we were going through the Park we picked these things up; we went to our lodgings; we agreed to make money of them, as our pay is small; we went to the pawnbroker's; there we met this woman, who said it was her's.


I can say no more than what Burden has said.

BOTH GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron PERRYN .

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-34

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125. 126. ROBERT ANDERS otherwise ANDREWS and RICHARD PALMER were indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling house of Sir Francis Lumm ,

Baronet , on the 28th of January , about the hour of nine in the night, and stealing fifteen linen shirts, value 5 l. five pair of laced ruffles, value 25 s. eight cambrick stocks, value 10 s. twelve pair of silk stockings, value 3 l. eight pair of silk stockings, value 16 s. a white dimity waistcoat, value 5 s. and 10 s. and 6 d. in monies, numbered, the property of James Guion ; a gold watch, value 8 l. 8 s. a steel watch chain, value 2 s. 6 d. a gold watch key, value 7 s. 6 d. a trinket called a gold almanack, value 3 s. a brilliant diamond hoop ring, value 6 l. 6 s. and two silver thimbles, value 4 s. the property of Pierce Furlong , in the dwelling house of the said Sir Francis Lumm , Baronet.

PIERCE Furlong sworn.

I am butler to Sir Francis Lumm ; Sir Francis has a house in Argyle-street , in the Parish of St. James.

Was that house broke open at any time; - Some people entered into it in the night of the 28th of last month; they entered the house through a garret window; the window was only raised up I believe.

How late in the evening did you see that window? - I cannot say that I saw it in the evening at all; they came in through an empty house adjoining, and so along the gutter which leads from the leads of the empty house to this garret-window; they broke open several locks of drawers and trunks.

No part of the house was broke open, only the window was open? - Not that I could see; I discovered it about one in the morning; I was then going to bed. I saw the things taken out of the trunk that belonged to Mr. Guion, and the trunk opened, therefore I knew somebody had been there. On looking farther, I found the other trunks were opened.

Did you know any thing that was in the room before that was then missing? - I cannot say I did.

Did you lose any thing of your own? - Yes; some things that were my wife's; a gold watch, and a brilliant diamond hoop ring, and two silver thimbles, as she informs me, I know she had such things, but I cannot say that they were there.


I am the wife of the last witness.

Do you know either of the prisoners? - No.

Did you lose any thing out of the house? - Yes, my gold watch and a brilliant diamond hoop ring with one of the stones out, and two silver thimbles; my chain was found upon the prisoners; there were some trinkets to the watch which have not been found.

When did you see these things last? - The watch I saw upon the 28th of January upon the table in my room, this garret was my room; the ring was left in the morning, in a drawer which was locked, I had the key in my pocket at the time that drawer was broke open; I saw Guion's trunk locked in the morning; I afterwards saw it open; that was at one in the morning.

Was this room kept locked up? - No.

Did any body go there besides yourself? - The servants of the house had recourse to the room.

Had you not been at all in the room in the afternoon? - I had been in the room in the course of the day, between breakfast and dinner; the windows of the room were their shut.

Have you got any of your things again? - The chain of the watch and two trinkets are in the possession of the constable.


Did you lose any thing out of this room? - Yes; fifteen shirts, nine or ten stocks, four pair of new silk stockings, washed only once, and nine or ten old silk ones; and I lost some thread stockings too.

Where were they taken from? - From Sir Francis Lumm 's, from the butler's room; when I went out of town I left the trunk locked.

When did you open the trunk last? - On the 18th, the Queen's birth day, I was in town then; I was in the country when they were stolen.

Have your ever got any of your things again? - They are in the hands of the constable.

Do you know any thing of either of the prisoners? - No.


I was a servant in the house of Sir Francis; at that time I went up into the room between

eight and nine at night; for the butler's handkerchief, which he left in the room; and at that hour the window was shut down.

Was every thing safe then? - Every thing appeared to be right then.


I am a servant in the house; between ten and eleven o'clock, as I was going up to my room, I picked up a shirt that was dropped between my room and the butler's; I went into the butler's room, and then saw the things littered about; and there was a cuff dropped upon the table; the window was open in the room I slept in; they came in at that window.

To Pierce Furlong . Which of the windows was it you said you found open at one in the morning? - I did not find any of the windows open then; I discovered the robbery then; I did not see any window open at all.

To Mary Croney . Which were the windows you said were shut down at noon? - All the garret windows.

Were the windows then shut down in that room where Mary Payne lies? - They were.

To Payne. Did you see any other things lying about besides the cuff? - I did not.

Did you mention it then to any of the servants? - No; I pulled my window down, and went to bed; I had no thoughts then of any such thing having happened; I thought the butler might have been in a hurry, and going to his room had dropped the shirt.

Was any thing taken out of your room? - Nothing at all.


I belong to Sir John Fielding's office. On the 29th in the morning some of us had an order to go to Andrew's house, concerning another fact. As we were going along Worship-street, at the top of Moorfields, we met the two prisoners, they were walking 30 or 40 yards before us. I saw Andrews give the other a nudge with his elbow for him to make off, upon which Palmer turned out of the footway into the coach-road; I turned out after him and stopped him, and from under Palmer's arm I took this bundle.

Did Andrews say any thing to him when he touched his elbow? - Not that I heard. Jealous came up and searched Palmer; these things were found upon him. (Some shirts and stockings, and a linen waistcoat were produced in court).

Guion. These are mine; they are marked with my name.

To Morant. Who was with you when you took the prisoners? - Jealous, Macmanus, and three more; we found nothing upon Andrews; we took him directly home to his own house, he kept the Rose, a public house in Rose-lane, Spittalfields; in Andrew's bed room, in a chair covered over with a blanket, we found some more linen, which Mr. Jealous has got.

Did you ask him how he came by them? - He said Palmer left them there.

Prisoner Whether I did not tell him I knew nothing of them; but that I would call my wife and ask her how they came there? - Yes, his wife was called.

What account did she give when she was called? - That they were left there by Palmer.

Did you find the watch chain? - No, Jealous found that.

Cross Examination.

You met these people in Worship-street? - Yes.

How far is that from Rose-lane? - Pretty near a mile, I believe.

You was going to Andrew's house, and met them? - Yes.

Palmer you say went into the middle of the street? - Yes, after the other gave him a nudge.

He did not turn back, did he? - No.

He was coming towards you? - No; his face was towards us, he was rather going off.

And these things you found on him were like those you found in the house? - Yes.

Did you know were Palmer lived? - Palmer, they told us, lodged in Andrew's house; he told us he had left his own house.

Do you know of your own knowledge whether at that time he lived in Andrew's house or not? - No; only what Andrew's wife said.

Was that in Palmer's presence? - No.


I belong to Sir John Fielding . I was along with Morant in Worship-street at the time he stopped Palmer and Andrews; after he had taken that bundle from under Palmer's arm, I then found in Palmer's pocket a chissel and a loaded pistol; in another of his pockets I found a bunch of picklock keys and a tinder box, a steel and flint; in another pocket I found a woman's watch chain. (They were all produced in court.)

Eleanor Furlong. This is mine.

Are you certain it is your's? - I am. These same trinkets were to the watch when I saw it that day.

Did you search Andrews? - Morant searched him, but did not find any thing at all upon him.

Jealous. I went along with Andrews into his room up stairs; in his own bed room I found these things (produced them). Here is as nearly half as possibly can be; even the ruffles were divided.

Are they the same quantity of shirts as were found in Palmer's bundle? - There were four shirts, which are the number as were in Palmer's bundle, and there were the same number of ruffles and stocks found upon the chair under a blanket. I asked Andrews how he came by them; he said they did not belong to him, but desired I would call his wife up stairs; she came up. He asked her who had left them there; she said one Palmer left them there.

(Four shirts, three stocks, and ruffles, and five pair of silk stockings were produced in court and deposed to by Guion.)

To Morant. What were the stockings which were in Palmer's bundle? - There were no stockings at all in the bundle.

Jealous. There were four pair taken out of Palmer's pockets.

Cross Examination.

Did not Andrews tell you when you asked him about these things, that they not only were not his, but that he knew nothing about them? - He said he had not seen the man for the space of twenty minutes in his life time.

He desired you to call up his wife, and said he knew nothing about them? - Yes, he desired his wife to be sent for up.

Do you know whether Palmer and Andrews were acquainted? - I do not.

Andrews. Palmer and I have been acquainted a great many years.

You say you found them in Andrews's bedroom? - Yes.

There was only one bed in the room? - Yes.

Is Andrews a married man? - I always took him to be such.

Had you ever known any thing of Palmer before that time? - I always took him to be a very honest man.

Court. Did you find any pistol or any picklock upon Andrews? - Nothing at all upon him; all was upon Palmer.

Jury. Did not you say that Andrews told you he had not known him twenty minutes? - Yes; that he had seen him but a very little while before. I do not believe I should have taken Palmer into custody if it had not been for seeing him with Andrews. I had known Palmer before.

What was his character? - I never heard any thing amiss of him.

Court. Did you say that before this time you thought Andrews a very honest man? - No, I said that of Palmer.


I was along with Jealous, Morant, and some more of Sir John Fielding 's people in the morning of the 29th. We saw the two prisoners coming along; Andrews winked to Palmer to go out of the way; Palmer went into the coach-way. We immediately laid hold of them, and in searching found this dark lantern, some trinkets, and four pair of silk stockings in Palmer's pocket. Jealous came and took hold of Palmer, and Morant and I went on to Andrews's house; when we came there Andrews's wife was in the bar. We went in and searched the bar particularly. Andrews wanted to go up stairs; I said you shall not stir from this place till I go along with you; well, said he, then come up. He stopped a quarter of an hour longer than that I believe, then he said, are you ready to go up stairs now? I

said, yes. We went up. On entering the room we found a bundle of loose linen in a chair with a blanket thrown over it, and I believe a woman's petticoat. The first thing I looked at was a shirt. I said, Jealous, here is the same mark on this as those shirts in Palmer's bundle have on them. We found the rest had the same mark. We took Andrews. He begged us to go the back way out of his house, which we did, and then took him to Bow-street.

Counsel for the Prisoners. That was that he might not be exposed, I suppose, in his neighbourhood? - I suppose that was the reason. These are the trinkets we found (producing them.)

Eleanor Furlong . Those trinkets were to my watch when it was stolen.

To Morant. What number of stockings were found in Andrews's house? - Four pair of white and one pair of black.

How many were found in Palmer's pocket? - Four pair which were quite new.


At that time I kept a publick-house . I was not at home when these things were left there. They were left with my wife to be called for. Here is my wife, a servant maid, and another person, who were present when these things were delivered. I had been to receive some money in Moorfields, and met the prisoner, by accident, not a hundred yards before. I told that gentleman (I cannot call him by name) that I knew nothing of the affair. I bid him ask my wife. I did not speak a word to her during the whole course of the time.

Palmer. I leave my defence to my counsel;

Counsel to M'Manus. Had you or any of you any conversation with the maid in the house? - Not a word.

For Andrews.


I was servant to the prisoner Andrews; he kept a publick-house in Rose-lane.

Do you remember the morning when the officers who have been examined here came to the house and took him into custody? - Yes.

What morning was that? - Saturday morning.

Do you remember a bundle containing some things which were found in the bedroom? - Yes.

How came that bundle there? - A man brought it on the Friday night.

Who brought it? - A man, I do not know who.

What time did he bring it? - About eleven o'clock.

Was your master at home at the time it was brought? - He was a-bed.

Who was the bundle left with? - My mistress.

Who put it in the bed-room? - My mistress carried it up.

How long had your master been at home and a-bed before that? - About ten minutes before.

Do you remember whether any body came home with him, and who? - Yes, a man came home with him.

Do you know his name? - No.

Is he here? - I do not know.

Did Palmer lodge in your house then? - Yes he laid there that night.

What time did he come home? - About eleven o'clock.

Court. How long had Palmer lodged in the house? - He was only coming to lodge there then, that was the first night.

Did your master and Palmer come home together? - No.

How long was one after the other? - About half an hour.

Which came first? - My master came first.

The other came about half an hour after? - Yes.

Had you seen Palmer there before? - Never.

You did not know him at that time at all? - No.

How came he to lodge there then? - He came and asked for a night's lodging.

At eleven o'clock at night? - Yes.

Who did he ask? - My mistress; she told him he might sleep there.

How long had you lived in the house? - I came the afternoon before.

How long had your master been out that evening? - I cannot tell how long he had been out.

Did he go out at six, seven, or eight o'clock? - I cannot rightly say, it was before that I think.

Did he go out before it was dark? - I cannot say whether he did or not.

It was about eleven o'clock when he came home? - between ten and eleven.

Did he go directly to bed? - Yes.

The man that brought the bundle you never saw before had you? - No.

Can you now say who it was? - No.

Did Palmer bring any thing with him? - Yes. That is the name.

Did he bring any thing? - Yes, a bundle.

What was it wrapped up in? - A handkerchief.

Did any other person bring any thing besides Palmer? - No.

How came you to say just now that the man who brought the bundle was not known to you, now you say it was Palmer? - Yes, that was the name.

How came you to swear you did not know who it was? - I knew the name.

Do you know the person, that is Palmer at the bar, is it not? - I do not know.

Is that the man who brought the bundle? - Yes, it is.

What made you say just now you did not know who it was, did any body tell you to say so? - No, nobody told me so.

How came you to swear it then? - I can tell no more than I saw.

You swore you did not know who it was that brought it, now you swear it was Palmer, did not your master stay up to see Palmer? - No, he went to bed directly, before Palmer came into the house.

Did he bring home any thing with him? - No.

Jury. You say that when the man came in to ask for lodgings, he gave your mistress a bundle, did he go out of the house afterwards? - No, he went to bed.

Do you know any reason why that bundle was taken into your mistress's room instead of the room he slept in, did he desire your mistress to take care of it? - Yes.

Palmer came by himself did he? - Yes.


Was you in company with Andrews on Friday night? - Yes, I had been in company with him down Holborn. I happened to call in at the Red-Cow for a pint of beer, there I saw Andrews. We staid and drank there till between nine and ten o'clock.

What time in the evening did you go to this Red-Cow? - Between five and six o'clock, it was just at dusk.

Did you go home with Andrews? - We came out of the house and called a coach off the stand. We got pretty much in liquor. I said I cannot very well walk, because I have a cough upon me, and it was pretty much of a fog, so I said let us have a coach; we did, and went home to his house.

What time of night was it when you got to his house? - About half after ten o'clock, as near as I can tell.

He was never out of your company, from between 5 and 6 till he went home to bed, was he? - No.

Was any body else in company with you drinking? - No, not to stay any time, there was another man came in and drank, and asked him how he did; for he had been at Smithfield in the afternoon, about some business I understood.

Did he and you go together to the Red-Cow? - No; I called in there for a pint of beer.

Court. He came in after you. - I did not see him the instant I went in, therefore I suppose he came in after.

How came you to notice the time that it was between nine and ten o'clock? - Just as we came out of the Red-Cow, I heard the watchman go half past nine o'clock.

On what day of the month was this? - It is a month ago next Friday, I believe.

Do you know when he was taken up? - No. I did not hear any thing of his being taken up till a fortnight after, and more.

Can you say now what Friday it was? - The 28th day of the month, I think it was.

How do you know it was the 28th day of the month? - I cannot say particularly, it was three weeks ago last Friday.

Are you certain of that? - I think it is.

Are you certain of it? - I cannot be certain

farther than I think it was three weeks last Friday, but did not take any particular marks of the day.

Then you cannot undertake to swear, whether it was the 28th of January or not, only that it was on a Friday? - Yes, it was on a Friday.

How far is the Red Cow from Andrews's house? - The Red Cow is in Smithfield.

How far is that from his house? - Better than a mile I believe.

Did you hear the watchman cry the hour ten that night? - I did not take particular notice of that; I heard him go past nine, or half after nine, soon after we came out of the Red Cow.

Counsel for the prisoner to Hitch. Is that the man that came home with your master on the Friday night? - Yes.

Your master went to bed immediately upon his coming home? - Yes.

And did not go out at all that night? - No.

Hayward. He did not go out, for we had a pint of half-and-half to drink, and then he was lighted to bed.

Court to Mary Hitch . Do you know this Abraham Hayward ? - Yes.

How long have you known him? - Not long.

How long? - The first time of my seeing him was on the Monday before last.

Counsel for the prisoner. I asked you just now, whether that was the man that came home with your master, to which you answered yes; now you tell his Lordship the first time you saw him was the Monday before last; explain what you mean by that? - I saw him when he came home with my master, I have seen him but once since.

Court. I asked you when was the first time you saw him, you said the Monday before last; do you know you are upon oath swearing to all you are now saying? You swore just now your never saw Hayward till the Monday before last? - That was the second time I saw him; the first time was when he came home with my master.

How came you to swear that then; now you swear you never had seen him till the night he came home with your master? - Yes, and I have seen him but once since.

Where did you see him the Monday before last? - At our house.

What did he come there for? - I believe he had a pint of beer.

Had they any conversation about this business? - I cannot tell, I never stood to hear them.

Do not you know whether you had any conversation with him about this business, about your master? - No.

Had they any beer together when he and your master came home? - Yes.

In what part of the house did they sit? - In the tap room.

How much beer did they drink? - I cannot tell.

Did you draw it? - No.

Who drew it? - I cannot tell.


I went to Smithfield, after I had sold my goods off, to sell my horse; that was on Friday. I met Mr. Andrews in Smithfield; he went in with me to a public house; we had some brandy and water after I had sold the horse; coming along, that was between 7 and 8 o'clock, we shook hands with each other; I went towards Cow-Cross. I came strait home. Mr. Silvester was with me; he went with me to my home; I shook hands with Mr. Andrews, and bid him good night. The next morning, being about to take a publick-house, and Andrews owing me a little money, I went up to his house to ask him for it; he said, he could not just at that time let me have any, but if I would wait till his wife got up he would endeavour to get some. I waited till she came down stairs, between seven and eight o'clock; he said, stop, I will go with you; he went up stairs and brought down a bundle; he said, if you will go with me, I will get you some money; he put these things into my hand, and bid me go along and he would follow me. The handkerchief was old, it tore, these things sell out; I said, how can you put such a bundle into my hands? He said, take care of them; carry them a little farther and I will take them of you; I am going to carry them to a

person they belong to. If they had searched Andrews, at the time they searched me, they must have found the property that belonged to these other things.

Andrews. He said before Sir John Fielding he did not know me, and had no concern with me; in case he had had the bundle of me, he would have said that before Sir John Fielding .

Court to Jealous. Were all the stockings new, or some old? - Four pair of new in the pocket of Palmer, five pair of old ones were at the other's house.

Andrews. I was not only searched, but stripped in a back room at Sir John Fielding 's.

For Palmer.


I keep a public house on Saffron-hill.

Do you know Palmer? - I believe he has been upon Saffron-hill about five years, he is a rule-maker by trade, and keeps a little broker's shop .

Did you see any thing of him in January? - Yes; in January he went away.

Do you recollect the time he was taken up? - It is about a month ago since I heard of it, but cannot justly say the day, it was on a Saturday morning.

Did you know any thing of him the day before that? - I saw Palmer on the Friday morning before he was taken up; he was at my house.

Did you see him on Friday evening? - No. He had sold his goods, and was going to keep a publick-house.

How many years have you known him? - about five years.

What was his character in the neighbourhood during that time? - He was looked upon as a very honest worthy man.


I deal in rags. I have known Palmer three or four years; I never heard any ill of him in my life.

JOHN KING sworn.

I have known Palmer between four and five years; he is a very honest hard working young man; I never heard to the contrary.


I am a clockmaker. I have known Palmer between four and five years; I have done business for him in the rule way, and clock way. All his dealings with me were very right; he paid me, and acted like an honest man.


I am a watchmaker. I have known Palmer about five years. I lived almost opposite to him. I always looked upon him as a just, honest, upright, hard-working man. I never knew any thing amiss of him till this affair; and what is extraordinary, I never saw him disguised in liquor, though I lived opposite to him.


I am a coachmaker; I live on Saffron-hill. I have known Palmer four or five years; he always bore a good character. I never heard any harm of him before.


I keep a chandler's-shop near Palmer. He always bore the character of a very honest man. I never heard any thing against him before this affair.


I am an auctioneer and broker. I have known Palmer between two and three years, he has often attended sales of mine when I sold goods. He always paid his bills very honestly. I never heard the least impeachment of his character before, and was greatly astonished when I heard it now.

BOTH GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

( Mary Hitch was committed by the court to take her trial for wilful and corrupt perjury.)

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-35
VerdictNot Guilty

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127. ANN the wife of Lawrence FRIEND was indicted for stealing four pair of silk stockings , the property of Catherine Amer , spinster , February 19th .


I lived in the same room with the prisoner, and slept with her. I lost four pair of stockings on this day was a week. I brought in ten pair to mend; I put six pair in a basket.

I went out about two o'clock and came home again in the evening. I owed her half a crown; I gave her a shilling, and told her when I carried home the stockings I would give her some more. I left her in the room and the stockings in the basket when I went out. I came home about five o'clock, and in about half an hour I missed the stockings. I asked the the prisoner about them; she began to laugh at me. I said pray, ma'am, give me my stockings. I was almost mad because I knew she had not a good character. At last she produced a pawnbroker's ticket for two pair, which she had pawned for two shillings. There were five pair missing. I found four pair; she would not tell me where the other pair was. She said they are safe enough. She was in liquor. She ran away, and I followed her three times, and prayed her to give me my stockings. Two pair were pawned, and the constable found two pair in her pocket.


I am a constable. I took the prisoner in a publick-house in Panton-street. The prosecutrix charged her with stealing five pair of silk stockings. The prisoner said she had pawned two pair, and she had two pair in her pocket and she would keep them, because the prosecutrix owed her money, and she had a right to keep them. The prosecutrix said she owed her eighteen-pence.

What did the prisoner say about the other pair? - She said she knew nothing about them. I took the two pair from her, and took her to the watch-house that night, and the next day she was committed.


I am a pawnbroker. I took in two pair of silk stockings of Elisabeth Ashton on the 19th of February.

(The Stockings pawned and those found upon the prisoner were produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutrix.)


On the 19th of February the prisoner had two of my children to take care of. I went there about one o'clock.

Was you there when the prosecutrix went out? - I was in the fore room when the prosecutrix went out. The prisoner told me the prosecutrix was gone to pawn some stockings to get out two neckcloths she had pawned of her's. When the prosecutrix returned and knocked at the door I opened it. She gave me a neckcloth and desired me to give it to the prisoner. She went out again directly without coming into the parlour.

Did she say any thing when she gave you the neckcloth? - Not a word. After she was gone the prisoner gave me two pair of stockings to pawn, to get out the other neckcloth, because the prosecutrix had brought but one, and she said she could not carry home her linen without it. I said she had better go herself. She said she had lent the prosecutrix her hat and cloak, and could not go out without them. I went and pawned them in her name for two shillings, and gave her the money and a duplicate of them. Then the prisoner borrowed a hat and cloak of the woman of the house; she went out and brought in a neckcloth, ironed them both, and went home with the linen. When she returned she said she had not taken the money for the linen. I went home directly.

To the Prosecutrix. Had you pawned two neckcloths for the prisoner? - Yes; she gave them me to pawn for her, which I did, and gave her the money.

Did you bring one of these neckcloths home that afternoon? - Yes, I did.

What did you pawn in order to redeem that? - Nothing; I had a shilling; I went and brought it home.

Why did not you bring them both home? - They were not mine; I did not pawn them for myself. I had no more money; I promised to bring her own home.

How came you to go and redeem that neckcloth with your own money if you pawned it for her? - It was pawned in my name.

(The prisoner was not put upon her defence.)


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-36
SentenceCorporal > whipping; Imprisonment

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129. ELISABETH PLUNKET was indicted for stealing a gold necklace, value 3 l. and a silver stay-hook, value 3 s. the property of Henry Smith , January 14th .


I am the wife of Henry Smith . My husband is a coal-heaver on board a ship . The necklace was mine, I lost it on the 17th of January, which was the same day I bought it; I bought it of a silversmith, one Levi, a Jew, opposite Denmark-street, Radcliff-highway.

Did you buy the stay-hook at the same time? - Yes. I gave three guineas for the necklace, and three shillings and sixpence for the stay-hook. I went into a house in Rosemary-lane, as I went home, where the prisoner was; it is a private house; the woman of the house was an acquaintance of mine. There was a cat in the house; I asked her if she could spare her for me; she said yes, if I would give something for her; I gave her a shilling. She bid me tie it up in a handkerchief. She asked me where I had been; I said to buy some gold beads.

You took them out I suppose to shew her your bargain? - Yes. The prisoner took them and tried them on her neck, and said she liked them very well. I took them and put them in my pocket again. They were wrapped up in a piece of brown paper, and the stay-hook with them. I tied the cat up in the handkerchief, and the prisoner carried her home for me. When I came home she let the cat out on the floor. It being two o'clock I asked her to eat some thing; she consented, and went up stairs. I keep a lodging-house myself. When she came down she sat down by me, and thanked me for her dinner. She whispered to me, and I felt her hand by my side about my pocket, but I did not suspect any thing.

Did she see which pocket you put them in? - Yes. She went out directly. When she had been gone about an hour I felt in my pocket, and missed the necklace and stay-hook. I sent after her to the woman's house where I had seen her, but could not hear of her. I was so ill I could not go myself. On the 20th the woman of the house where I was came to me and said. -

Court. You must not say what she said. Did you find your necklace again? - Yes, at a pawnbroker's.

Did you see any thing of the prisoner afterwards? - Not till she was taken up.

Was you present when she was examined? - Yes. She said she did not take if out of my pocket, but she picked it off the floor.

Prisoner. Whether she ever saw me before she saw me at the house where she got the cat?

Smith. No, I did not.

Prisoner. Whether she did not tell her men lodgers (there were about fourteen in the house) whether she did not tell me to tell the people, if they asked me how long she had known me, that she had known me seven years. She said the reason she would tell them so was, as I was a likely young woman, and some of her lodgers had a good deal of money, they might make me a present of something?

Smith. I did not.


I am servant to a pawnbroker. On the 19th of January I believe, about nine or ten in the morning. The prisoner offered to pawn a necklace with me; it was on an execution day. She said she wanted the money to spend at the execution, and that it was her own. I had known her four or five months. She was a customer to the shop. I looked upon her to be a girl of the town. They are the sort of women who wear these necklaces. I lent her a guinea upon it.

What name did she pawn it in? - Elisabeth Plunket .

What may the necklace be worth? - I bought the necklace of the prisoner in the afternoon of the same day for one pound six shillings, that was the weight of the gold.

Was you present at her examination? - Yes. She said then she found it in Mrs. Smith's house.

Was there any promise or threat made use of to induce her to confess? - None that I know of. I had sold the necklace before I knew any thing of it. I bought it on the Wednesday, and sold it on the Friday morning.

What did you sell it for? - One pound eight shillings, to a Jew dealer who comes about to buy these things.

Prisoner. Whether you ever knew any thing dishonest of me in your life? - No; never.


I am a headborough. I took up the prisoner, and told her she had made a foolish step, for we had found out where she had sold the stay-hook. She said she sold it for a shilling and a quartern of gin at the Black-Horse. She said she found them beside Mrs. Smith, in her house.


When I had been up stairs and had some dinner, I came down; Mrs. Smith was in the back parlour with about eighteen or nineteen outlandish men. One of them got up. She said if I had a mind to sleep in her house I might. I went out, and one of the men followed me, and put the necklace and stay-hook into my hand. I said what was that for? He said to lie with me. I said, I did not choose it. Her maid is witness to it.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Whipping. See summary.] [Whipping. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-37
SentenceCorporal > whipping

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130. WILLIAM HARRIS was indicted for stealing the carcase of a dead sheep, value 12 s. the property of James Paul , February 18th .

JAMES PAUL , sworn.

I am a butcher . Yesterday se'nnight I went out about eight o'clock in the evening, I left seven carcases hanging in the shop. At about half after nine, my wife came to me at a neighbour's house, and said a sheep had been stolen. I went home and saw the sheep all over dirt. I went to the watch-house where the prisoner was in custody, and asked him where he got it. He said somewhere by the market. I asked him where abouts? and then he said from the door of my shop. He said another boy bid him go and take it.

Did you make use of any promise to induce him to confess? - No.

Or did you threaten him if he did not tell the truth? - No; I did not.


I went to Mr. Paul's that evening. I sat down in a little room within the shop. A little after nine o'clock I saw a carcass of a sheep taken out at the shop door.

Did you see any body take it out? - No; I did not. I saw only a part of it as it went out at the shop door. I went and called Stop thief! I saw the sheep on a man's shoulder; he threw it off his shoulder, and Mrs. Paul pursued him, I did not go after him.


I pursued the prisoner. I saw him cross the kennel, and saw the carcass drop, but did not see him throw it down. I followed him and cried Stop thief! till he ran through Elder-yard into Chapel-street, there he was stopped. I never lost sight of him from the time he ran from the sheep till he was stopped.


I saw the carcass lie on the ground. I was going to pick it up. A person cried, Stop thief! and then I threw it down and ran away.

(The prisoner called four witnesses who gave him a good character.)


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-38
VerdictGuilty > theft under 40s
SentenceCorporal > whipping

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131. MARY WILMOT was indicted for stealing a brilliant diamond gold ring, value 3 l. the property of Thomas Morgan , in the dwelling-house of Thomas Smith , February 19th .


I am the wife of Thomas Morgan . I lodge at Mr. Smith's, No. 8, Plumpton-row, in the parish of Kensington . On the 19th of this month, the prisoner's mother came to me, and asked if I had lost any thing. I examined, and missed a diamond

ring; it was kept in a shagreen case in the cabinet.

Did you usually keep the cabinet locked or open? - Locked. The prisoner was a servant in the house.

How long before had you seen the ring? - About six weeks ago. I had not occasion often to open the place where it was; it was a brilliant diamond ring; one stone in the middle and two on each side. It was a family ring. It was my mother's. Upon an information, I went to Mr. Packer's, a pawnbroker, in Princes-street, there I found my ring.

Prisoner. Whether you ever knew any thing dishonest of me? - No; I believed she was perfectly honest.


I am a pawnbroker. This brilliant diamond ring was brought to me by Martha Wilmot , to enquire the value of it. She did not offer to pawn or sell it. I asked her whose property it was, and where she had it; she said, she had it of a broker by the Seven Dials, and that she gave half a guinea for it. I said it was worth more, and that he must not have known the value of it. I sent to him and desired him to come directly. He sent word that his wife was ill, and he could not come. I stopped the ring and told her she must call again the next evening, that was the 16th. The next day I took it to Sir John Fielding 's, and had it advertised, and on the Saturday morning the prisoner was taken into custody.

Did you see the prisoner? - Yes; at Bow-street on Saturday morning; she was asked, before Mrs. Morgan came, where she got the ring. She said, she found it. We asked her who she lived with last. She said, with one Mrs. Smith at Brompton, and that she found it in that house. Then Mrs. Morgan was sent for. When she came, the same enquiries were made, and she made the same answers.

Was any thing said to her to induce her to confess? - No. It was her own voluntary confession.

No promises were made to her? - None.


I live at Hampstead.

You carried this ring to Mr. Parker to ask the value of it on the Wednesday? - I went with it to ask him whether it was gold or not; I did not want to know the value of it.

Where did you get the ring? - I went to Knightsbridge to see my father and mother on the Wednesday. As I came back, the prisoner, who is my sister, came a little way with me, and pulled a ring out of her pocket, and said she found it. I said I believed it was of no great value; we would go into some shop and ask the value of it. I went into Mr. Parker's shop to ask the value of it, and he stopped me. She stood on the outside.

How came you to tell Mr. Parker you had it of another person? - Because it rather frightened me. I did not know what to think of it at first. When he stopped the ring, I came out and said, Molly, where did you get this ring? She said she found it under a chest. I said, why did not you ask somebody the value of it? She said, she did not think it was of much value.

All the story you told Mr. Parker was invented at the time? - Yes. I was frightened.

What became of her after she found the ring was stopped? - She went home.

To Mr. Parker. What is the value of that ring? - About two or three guineas.

(The ring was deposed to by the prosecutrix.)

Prosecutrix. They have valued it at more in the indictment than I think they should. It is a very old-fashioned ring.

The cabinet was usually kept locked? - Yes.

Was there any appearance of it having been broke open? - None.

Had you left it open at any time? - I cannot be certain.


I found it. I did not know that it was of any value. I kept it in my pocket several weeks. When my sister came I gave

it her to enquire whether it was of any value or not.

Prosecutrix. I always found her extremely honest in money matters. I left my purse with a guinea and half a crown in it on the table, and she brought it me very honestly.

GUILTY of stealing the ring to the value of 20 s .

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Whipping. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-39
VerdictsGuilty > theft under 1s; Not Guilty

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132. JOHN PAGE , was indicted for stealing five pair of worsted gloves, value 1 s. 6 d : the property of John Buckingham , January 24th .


I live at Hendon . I saw the gloves upon the compter. I had looked at them before, and because they were moth-eaten I took them up and tied them in the manner they are tied now, and hung them to the fire.

(The prosecutor's servant deposed that she saw the prisoner, who had been called in to sell oysters, take up the gloves and put them into his cart.)

GUILTY of stealing to the value of 10 d .

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

JOHN PAGE was indicted for stealing a cloth cloak, value 12 s. the property of John Buckingham , October 30th .


I am the wife of John Buckingham . I lost a cloth cloak on the 30th of October.

Where from? - It was a new cloak; it it was stolen out of the shop.

Have you any reason to know that the prisoner took it? - It was found upon his wife's back the morning that we took him up for stealing the gloves, and brought him before Sir John Fielding . Sir John Fielding 's men took the cloak off his wife's back. I missed it on the 31st of October. It has a particular fur on it, and in sewing the ticket to it, I cut a nick with the scissars.

Did you ever see it in the prisoner's possession? - Never.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-40
VerdictNot Guilty

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133. SAMUEL WALLACE was indicted for stealing a silver salve-box, value 20 s. the property of Robert Battiscomb , February 11th .


I am an apothecary . I missed a silver salve-box on the 12th of this month, out of my shop or parlour. I had it out with me on the 10th. When I came home on Saturday the 12th in the forenoon, one Matthews came and asked if I had lost my salve-box. I looked in the place where it was generally kept, and missed it. I went to the Rotation Office, where Matthews produced the box. The prisoner was at the office.

What passed there? - I could only say that it was my property.

- MATTHEWS sworn.

On the 11th of this month, I was called up by a lodger of mine, and told that they had found this box in the hampers belonging to the prisoner. He goes out with apples in hampers on an ass, and sells them for me. I received it from one of the witnesses.

(It was produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutor.)


On the 11th of this month I was in a young woman's room in the house of Matthews; she asked me to count some apples out of the hamper. We found this box in the hamper. A person called Mr. Matthews up and told him of it. The ass came home by itself that night. The prisoner had not sold all.

Do you know how long it was before the prisoner came home after the ass came back? - No.

Did you say any thing to the prisoner about this box? - No.


I am servant to the prosecutor. The prisoner came to my master's shop to know if

we wanted any apples; I left him in the shop, and went up stairs to enquire if we wanted any.

Had you seen the box that day? - No, but I saw it the day before.


I am servant to the prosecutor. I saw the prisoner in the shop, and asked him the price of his apples, but I did not buy any.

Did you see any thing of the box that day? - No.

To Matthews. Did the prisoner use to go out with apples constantly? - Yes.

Did any body go with him? - No.


I have worked with Matthews three or four years; I sell things for him.

Matthews. He always behaved very well, I never heard any harm of him. He never wronged me.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-41
VerdictNot Guilty

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134, 135, 136. FRANCES SMITH , ANN SPENCER , and MARY POTTEN were indicted for stealing a pair of silver shoe-buckles, value 3 s. and a silver shoebuckle, value 18 d. the property of William Lee , January 26th .


I am shopman to Mr. Lee. On the 26th of January the prisoner Frances Smith came into Mr. Lee's shop with another woman and asked to look at some silver shoe-buckles. I took out a drawer of shoe-buckles and showed them; they said there were none of those that would do. I took out another drawer and showed them. While they were looking at the second drawer, Potten and Spencer came into the shop and enquired for some gold wires for ear-rings; I desired them to wait till the other women were served; they said they were in a hurry. Frances Smith went beside them, and said as they were in a hurry, they would wait while I showed them the gold wires. I saw one of the two drawers I had left in the glass-case moved, and some buckles gone, and I missed the buckles. Smith and the other woman who came in first said, there were none that would do, and they went out of the shop. I went after them and took hold of Smith by the cloak, and desired them to come back. Spencer and Potten were in the shop; I desired them to stop likewise. As soon as Smith came into the shop one silver buckle dropped down between her and the other two prisoners, on the floor, and one catched by the chase in the apron of Spencer. Smith was close to Spencer when she came in. I missed three buckles; the other was not found.

The other woman did not come back? - No; I did not suspect her.

(The buckles were produced in court and deposed to by the witness.)

Taylor. I charged the prisoner Smith with taking the buckles. She said she knew nothing at all of them, and expressed her surprise at my charging her with any thing of the kind.

Did you charge the others? - No, I desired them, as they were in the shop, to stop.

Did Smith and the woman who came in with her seem to have any acquaintance with the women who came in afterwards? - Not in the least that I know of.

Did Spencer and Potten submit to be searched? - Not till they came before the justice. There was nothing of Mr. Lee's property found upon them.

Was Smith searched? - Yes. There was nothing of Mr. Lee's found upon her.

From Smith. Did not I desire you to search me when I was first brought back into the shop.

Taylor. Yes, I believe she did.

Might not the buckles drop out of the drawer without any body taking them out? - It was impossible; the drawer was shut close in, and the top of the glass-case down.

One of the buckles was quite lost? - Yes.

And one of the women went out? - Yes.

Smith. The woman I went in with had nursed me two years ago; I met her, and she asked me to go with her to buy a pair

of silver buckles. We went in and looked at the buckles; he asked twenty shillings for them; she said they were for another woman and she would tell her.


I am a constable. Taylor and another person brought the three prisoners to my house. In the way to the justice's, and before the justice, Taylor accused them, as he has done now. I searched Smith; she had no money. I asked her how she was to buy silver buckles without any money? She said she did not go in to buy, only to ask the price. Potten and Spencer had only a shilling between them. I asked them how they were to buy gold ear-rings, when they had no money; they made the same answer, that they did not go in to buy, only to ask the price.


I did not choose to trouble my friends; I would not wish them to know I was in such a place.


I have a witness to prove I had money in my pocket.

For Potten.


I have known Potten three weeks. I took them down to prison; they asked me to let them stop and have a pot of purl. Spencer offered half a guinea to change.

Did you see the half guinea? - Yes; it was changed the next morning in the jail for their breakfast, and I saw Potten take the change of the half guinea.

To Taylor. Are you sure the buckles were in the drawer when the prisoners came into the shop? - I have no doubt of it.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron PERRYN .

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-42
SentenceCorporal > whipping

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137. RICHARDS MOULDS was indicted for stealing a silk cloak, value 1 s. a linen sheet, value 1 s. and a pin-cloth, value 1 d. the property of John Ray , January 18th .


I am the wife of John Ray . On the 18th of January I lost the things mentioned in the indictment (repeating them) out of my room. At about half after eight in the evening, I went down stairs on an errand; I returned in about three minutes; as I came up stairs I heard my room door pulled to; I looked up and saw the prisoner coming out of the room.

Did you know him? - No; he was quite a stranger to me. He went up the second pair of stairs. My room is on the one-pair. I saw a bundle under the flap of his coat. I went into my room, and missed the sheet; I had left three hanging on the line; one was gone. I ran down to the landlord of the house, and said there had been thieves in my room. He came out and stopped the prisoner as he came down.

Had he the bundle then? - No; it was left upon the two-pair-of-stairs. He said he wanted a washerwoman. He was carried to the watch-house, and the landlord went up and fetched the bundle down.

Was you present when he was examined? - No.


I keep the house where the prisoner lodges. On the 18th of January, Mrs. Ray came down to me and said there were thieves in the house. I went to her assistance. I saw the prisoner coming down stairs. I stopped him and took him into the parlour. The lodgers up two pair of stairs cried out; I thought there was another thief; I went up stairs.

Did the prisoner say what he came into the house for? - He said he wanted one Mrs. Smith, a washerwoman. There is no such person lodges in the house. I went up stairs and found a sheet, a cloak, and a pincloth loose on the landing-place of the two-pair-of stairs. When I brought them down the prisoner said he was innocent.


I was sent for, and the landlord gave me charge of this man.

Did you hear the prisoner say any thing about it? - He denied it. The next morning he wished he had been on board the ship he came from, then this would not have happened;

that he would make the people any satisfaction, and go on board of ship again.


I went into this house to ask for Mrs. Smith, a washerwoman. As I went up stairs a young lad ran down. When I came down that man stopped me. I know nothing of the things.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Whipping. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-43
VerdictNot Guilty

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138, 139. ANN CHARLTON and ANN SMITH were indicted for stealing 20 lb. wt. of pewter, value 10 d. the property of certain persons unknown, January 18th .


On the 18th of January I met the two prisoners in Bloomsbury-square . I knew them very well, and the trade they followed, which is that of pot-stealing . I went up to them, and found this pewter (producing it) in a handkerchief. It was hot at the time. I know nothing more of it.

(The prisoners were not put on their defence.)


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-44
VerdictNot Guilty

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140. MARY LINCH was indicted for stealing a pair of linen sheets, value 6 s. the property of Mary Hacket , widow , September 24th .


I lost a pair of sheets in September last. The prisoner was a lodger in my house; she went away about Christmas. I missed them about six weeks ago. When she went away she left the key on the bulk of the stairs. We found it about a week after. When we went into the room we missed an iron pot. The sheets were taken out of the next room to her's.

How came you not to miss them sooner? - Because some people lived in the room; they went away about six weeks ago.

What is become of those people? - Upon my word I do not know. After they were gone I missed the sheets out of their room. I found a pawnbroker's duplicate in the room they were taken from. I went to the pawnbroker's and found them; the prisoner owned to her taking of them.

Prisoner. You are a d - d liar; I don't choose to ask her no questions, my lord.


I am a pawnbroker. I took in one of the sheets of the prisoner on the 22d of October, the other was pledged on the 17th of November. I don't know whether the lad or I took it in; the duplicate is his writing. I have known the prisoner several years; she came backward and forward.

Did you ask her any questions about the sheet? - None,

Where do you live? - At Mr. Dobree's in Holborn.

Did you know where she lodged? - No.

Did you understand that this woman was a lodger or a house-keeper? - I never understood which she was; she was known before I came to Mr. Dobree's; they were pawned in the name of Linch.

(The sheets were produced in court, and deposed to by the prosecutrix.)

To the prosecutrix. Is there any mark upon them? - None.

Can you give any reason why you know them from any other sheets? - I know the linen.

These sheets were not in the prisoners room? - No; the prisoner owned to them before the justice.

Was any body present besides you at the examination? - Yes; my daughter Mary M'Ginnis .

Did she say where she had taken them from, or who had given them to her? - She said she took them out of the next room.

Did the prisoner, or the people who lodged in the next room, leave their lodging first? - The prisoner; she went away before Christmas.

How long did the other people continue in the lodging after the prisoner was gone? - They went away about six weeks ago.

That is about three weeks after the prisoner? - They stayed longer.


I am daughter to the last witness.

Was you present at the justice's when the prisoner was examined about this matter? - Yes; she owned to the things; all I heard her say before the justice was, she had no friend to help her.

What did you say about the sheets, did she or not say how she came by them? - She owned she had the sheets; she said the woman gave them to her to pawn.

Did she say that before the justice? - I don't know, she said so to me, it was in the justice's office.

Was Mary Hacket present? - I really cannot say.


I was in my own room; the woman brought me these things. I took her to be an honest woman. I pawned them for her and brought her the money.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-45

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141. WILLIAM HERBERT was indicted for being found at large in this kingdom before the expiration of the term for which he received sentence to be transported .

The copy of the record was read in court, from which it appeared that William Herbert was tried in May sessions, 1775, for wilfully and maliciously firing a loaded pistol at Walter Butler, one of the patroles of the parish of St. Andrew above the Bars, and was convicted - That he afterwards received his Majesty's mercy on condition of transportation for fourteen years; which sentence was accordingly passed upon him. [See the trial No. 462, in Mr. Alderman Wilkes's Mayoralty.]


Do you know the prisoner? - Yes. I knew him before he was sent abroad.

Do you remember his being tried and convicted for any offence? - No; no more than what I heard; I was not present.

Was you present when he was ordered to be transported? - No. I was sent in search of him and one Harding, for breaking open a house in the country; we took them both at a house in Petticoat-lane.

What is his name? - William Herbert .

How do you know that that is his name? - He has gone by that name ever since I knew him.


I know the prisoner. I was present when he was tried.

Was you present when he was ordered to be transported? - No.

How long ago is it since you was at his trial? - Not quite five years ago.

Do you know what session it was at? - No; it was in the summer time.

Was it the beginning of the summer, or the latter end of it? - I believe the begining of summer.

Can you recollect at what session it was? - I do not know.

What was he tried for? - Shooting at me.

You was the prosecutor of that indictment? - Yes.

He was convicted upon that? - Yes.

Was you present when he received the king's pardon, and was ordered for transportation? - No.

Are you sure the prisoner is the man who was tried and convicted for shooting at you? - Yes, I have no doubt of it in the least.


I am the person who was convicted for shooting at that man, almost five years ago. I received his majesty's clemency for fourteen years transportation. I had not been in the country long before they compelled me to take up arms against my king and country. I took the first opportunity of deserting from their service and going over to the king's troops; I surrendered myself to Lord Cornwallis, and took the benefit of the proclamation which offered a free pardon, and leave to return to their own country, to all persons who would come over to the king's troops. I was innocent

of the crime for which I was tried. George Hartley, who was convicted about two years ago, declared and took his sacrament upon it, that he was the man who shot at this man.

The prisoner produced a certificate under the hand of General Pigot of his having deserted from the American forces and taken the benefit of the proclamation.

GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-46
VerdictNot Guilty > no prosecutor

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142. JEREMIAH STAMFORD was indicted for stealing a fowl, value 2 s. the property of Elizabeth Gowin , widow , and a guinea , the property of Sarah Wright , spinster , November 6th .

The prosecutrixes were called but not appearing their recognizances were ordered to be estreated and a copy of the indictment was granted to the prisoner.


23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-47
SentenceCorporal > whipping

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143. JOHN MOORE was indicted for stealing three pewter pint pots, value 18 d. and a pewter half pint pot, value 4 d. the property of Christopher Brown , Feb. 3d .


I keep a public-house, the Cock on Snow-hill . I lost three pints and a half-pint pot on the 3d of this month. I was sick in bed at the time, and can only speak to the property.


On the 3d of this month I was at the Cock ale-house. I saw the prisoner take a half-pint pot off the table and put it into his pocket; he went out; I went after him, took him by the collar and brought him back. I searched him, and found three pint pots upon him.

The pots were produced in court, and deposed to by the prosecutor.


I served the prisoner with two pennyworth of purl; there were two half-pint pots on the table. I saw him put one into his pocket. I waited till he went out, and then the last witness and I followed him and brought him back, and found the other pots upon him.


I picked up the pots in the street, and brought them into the house.

To Broughton. Is that true? - No, it is not.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. BARON PERRYN .

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-48
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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144. JOSEPH WALLER was indicted for stealing a flannel petticoat, value 3 s. three muslin handkerchiefs, value 2 s. a cambrick handkerchief, value 1 s. and two muslin caps, value 2 s. the property of Joseph Ford in his dwelling house , February 5th .


I am wife to the prosecutor. I live in Kentish Town . I lost the things mentioned in the indictment (repeating them) on the 5th of February out of my parlour, the prisoner was pursued and taken, and brought into my house.


I had brought the parcel of linen out of the garden, where it was put to dry; coming into the parlour, I saw the prisoner take a flannel petticoat off a chair. I screamed out immediately, and threw down the basket and pursued the prisoner, who got out of the window. I never lost sight of him; he was taken in a ditch with his back upwards, and his head thrust into the hedge, with no shoes on. He is the man, I never lost sight of him; it was about six o'clock, in the dusk of the evening, the 6th of this month; the prisoner was found in the ditch.


I was at the next house; I joined in the pursuit of the prisoner. I found him in the ditch in the manner described by the last witness.


I was in the publick-house; I heard Mr. Ford's maid call out that her master was robbed of some clothes, and that the man was in the hedge. I went to the hedge; it was

dark; Lee went and got a candle, and we took the prisoner; he had dropped the things as he ran away. We brought him to the publick-house. Mr. Ford's maid came and said he was the man she saw in the parlour. The prisoner said, Young woman, take care what you say, that you do not swear falsely, for it is wet linen, and will take my life away. I asked her if she had brought the things with her; she said, no. I went and fetched them.

He said it was wet linen before the linen was brought? - Yes, he did.

Prisoner. There was a woman came into into the publick-house, and said she saw a man with a bundle, and that I was not the man.

Ford. One Mrs. Kendrick came in and said she met a man coming down the pathway with a bundle. The prisoner ran a different way.


I am a constable. I was returning from Highgate, and a watchman called me back and said I was wanted, I searched the prisoner, and then took him before a justice.


I am not guilty. I went to this place to ease myself; my foot slipped into the ditch. There was a cry of stop thief! I thought it was as well that I was there, as I thought had I been walking along the road they might have suspected me.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Baron PRRRYN .

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-49
VerdictNot Guilty

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145. MARY HICKIN was indicted for stealing forty guineas, in monies, numbered , the property of John Carpenter , January 1st .

(The witnesses were examined apart at the request of the prisoner.)


I am a butcher , and keep a shop in Fleet-market. On New-year's-day, at about ten o'clock in the morning, my maid servant, Eleanor Whiston, went home to my house in Dean-street, Fetter-lane , and staid till about three, which is longer than usual. She came back to the shop and staid from three till about half after twelve at night; then my wife, myself, and the maid went home. The maid entered the house first, and said, Lord, have mercy! what is here? I then entered the room, and saw my wife's clothes on the ground, out of the drawers. I then went into the room adjoining to this on the ground-floor, and there lay my clothes, some on the bed and some on the floor. I suspected the thief had got in at the back part of the house. I got up a ladder and saw the leads had not been disturbed, upon which I suspected my maid and Mr. Perdue's maid, and charged them with it.

What is Perdue's maid's name? - Sarah Arch . They both denied it with a great deal of fortitude. When I saw the clothes were all safe, I said to my wife, we have certainly lost the money; she said no, nobody could get that because it was on the top of a cupboard, close to the cieling, nobody could get their hand in, without it was flat. The money was in a purse. I had been robbed about two years before, and had put it there for safety. It was in the room where I lay. My wife counted it in the morning. She went to look, and it was gone indeed. I asked my maid if she had not a sister; she said she had two, that they lived in the New Buildings, by the side of the Fleet-market.

Do you know that she had a sister? - The prisoner is my maid's sister. I went to the constable of St. Sepulchre; he went with me and a watchman to the house; we knocked at the door; the sister looked out and asked what was the matter; I said her sister was in hold and wanted to speak to her; she hesitated a little and spoke to somebody; she called Mary, and then came down and opened the door. I asked her if she had not another sister there; she said she had another sister who came there sometimes, but she was not there then. The constable said let us go up stairs; we went up, and the prisoner was in the garret dressing herself very slowly. The constable took hold of her pocket and asked her if she knew what money she had in her pocket; she said a shilling or two and some half-pence, and half a crown. The constable

searched her and found about eleven shillings or eleven and six-pence in silver. We took her to St. Sepulchre's watch-house. She behaved with all the insolence possible; she said the constable tickled her, and she would not be searched. The constable felt some money in her hair but somehow it was conveyed away.

What did she say about the money? - She said it was not in her hair; she said she knew nothing of it, though her sister told her to her face that she had taken it away.

Was it ever found upon her? - I never found any of it.

Cross Examination.

This is not all you know of this matter, there is one thing more, you know she was taken before a magistrate and discharged? - She was. The magistrate took more cognizance of my maid, who said the prisoner was a week seducing her to do it.

Who searched her? - Mr. Roberts and Mr. Jones.


I counted the money that morning at eight o'clock, there were forty guineas. I put it up myself. It was missing when we came home at night.

Did the prisoner often come to your house? - Yes, but unknown to me; she was there that day.

Did you see her there? - No; one of the witnesses did.


The maid went home that day, as usual, to clean the house, and staid till about two o'clock. We staid at the shop till near about one in the morning. When we went home, she went in first and said Lord, have mercy, here is a piece of work! I went in and saw all the things thrown about.

Did the prisoner confess any thing? - No. I know no more than what the maid told me.


I went home with Mr. Carpenter about one o'clock, and saw all the things thrown about, and the back-door broken open, as if thieves had come in at the back-door.

Do you know the prisoner? - Yes.

Have you seen her come frequently to the house? - No I never saw her there in my life to my knowledge; I have seen her several times since. She always utterly denied taking the money.


I am servant to Mr. Perdue, who lives in the same house with the prosecutor? -

Do you know any thing of the prisoner? - Yes, she used to come frequently to her sister. She was twice there that day.

What time of the day? - She was twice there between twelve and one.

How long did she stay? - I do not know. She was once in the room where the money was.

By herself or with her sister? - She was by herself in the room.

Did you hear her say or see her do any thing that led you to have a suspicion of her while she was there? - No.

Have you any reason to suspect her from any thing but what you heard from the prosecutor's maid? - No.


I am a constable. I went with Mr. Carpenter and Mr. Perdue to the prisoner's lodging, on the 2d of January, between one and two in the morning; the sister denied the prisoner being in the house. I went up stairs and found her; I searched her and found upon her eleven shillings and some half-pence. She said her sister had sent her of an errand on Saturday night, and the change belonged to her.

Was she questioned about Mr. Carpenter's money? - Yes, she made no answer to it.

Did you find any money any where upon her besides the eleven shillings and the half-pence? - I searched as far as I could with decency. My brother officer thought he felt some money in her hair.

Is he here? - No.

You must not tell us what he said. Did you find any? - No.

Prosecutor. The indictment is not laid capital, I think she ought to have some punishment.

(The prisoner was not put on her defence.)


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-50
VerdictNot Guilty

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146. JAMES HARDWICK was indicted for stealing sixty silver cases for watches, value 25 l. four gold watch-cases, value 17 l. two gold pendents for watches, value 16 s. and two deal boxes, value 6 d. the property of William Dymock , Christopher Jones , Elisabeth Bacchus , widow , William Webster , John Fern , John Dale , Mary Oulton , widow , John Watson , James Morgan , and John Crosley , April 2d .

2d Count. Laying them to be the property of John Lathwaite .

3d Count. Laying them to be the property of Ralph Eden .


I am a watch-case-maker . I had an order for the things mentioned in the indictment, from Mr. Ralph Eden , at Liverpool. I completed the order, packed them up in a box, and sent them to the Swan with two Necks in Lad-lane , by John Nevill , my apprentice, on the 1st of April. I mark my work I. L. There are no others in the trade that use that mark, as I found upon enquiry at the Hall. I wrote a letter of advice and inclosed a bill of parcels on the came day. The things were sent on the 1st of April, but the coach did not go till the next day.

Had you any particular directions from Mr. Eden to send them by that coach? - We usually send by that coach unless he orders them to be sent by the waggon.

Who was to be the loser if the things were lost? - I suppose Mr. Eden would be the principal sufferer.

Cross Examination.

I. L. are your initials, you put your initials on your work? - Yes.

You have been in the trade twenty years I believe? - Yes.

You have made some hundred watch-cases in that time? - Some thousands.


I am apprentice to Mr. Lathwaite. I carried the box to the inn according to my master's order. I ordered the book-keeper to book it and saw him write something. I paid three shillings and twopence for the carriage, and booked it twelve pounds value.

You delivered it as you received it from your master? - I did.

Cross Examination.

Did you know the contents of the box? - Yes. I wrapped some of the things up.


I am book-keeper at the Swan with Two Necks, Lad-lane.

Do you remember receiving a box on the 1st of April? - Yes, directed to Mr. Eden at Liverpool.

What is the form of booking them? - The form is to Number them, this was

"No. 10 value 12 l. carriage paid, 3 s." It lies in the warehouse till the coach goes off; when the coach is going off they are called over by the coachman to see that they answer to the book; they did answer right to the book that night. When they are called over, the porter carries them from the warehouse to the coach. The prisoner was porter to the house at that time.

And officiated as porter that night? - He did.

Do you remember receiving that box from Nevill? - I do not remember receiving it from him, I remember the box; I put it in the cupboard where we keep the Liverpool goods. I was present when they were called over, but did not checque them off, Misterset did, the porter is to take care of the warehouse, and deliver the goods.

Court. Have you any reason for remembering that the prisoner was there on that particular night? - There is a person in court can give a better account of that.

Cross Examination.

He was not the regular porter? - No, he attended for Powell who was ill six weeks.

Could not he work at all? - No. The prisoner was constantly there for some time, I am certain he was there at that time.


I think you officiate in some capacity at the Swan and two Necks, in Lad-lane? - Yes, under Mr. Denham. I checqued the parcels in the book as they were called over that night; they were all right; this No. 10. was amongst the rest, directed to Ralph Eden , at Liverpool. I made a mark beside the number as they were called over, this was the 10th article entered in the book.

Cross Examination.

Who calls the parcels over? - The coachman; he calls over the number and the direction, they were all right.

You never make any mistakes? - No, I never made any in that respect, the parcels were all right.

How many parcels were there that night? - About thirty.

This is done in a hurry? - No; it was done about half an hour before the coach went off.

Court. Do you remember this particular box being right, or only in general that the articles were all right? - They were all right; I don't remember that in particular.

They are called over by the coachman? - Yes.

You don't examine the things? - No.


I am the coachman, I drive from London to St. Alban's.

Do you recollect in the month of April calling over, amongst a number of parcels, the parcel in question? - Yes, I think it was about nine at night, it was No. 10. Ralph Eden , Liverpool, marked, value 12 l. at the corner of it, very plain; at St. Alban's I deliver up the coach bill and its contents; for what I know the parcels were all there when I delivered it up.

Was the prisoner porter there that night? - He was.

Cross Examination.

How came you to remember who the porter was that night? - I remember very well the prisoner was there, in the room of Powell who is the regular porter, that was the last night of our slow work when we go out at ten o'clock at night.

Court. Was he porter some time before that? - Yes.

A week or more? - Yes.

When you called over the parcels do you remember calling over this particular box? - Yes; we have a strong travelling box where we put our small boxes into, that locks up, this was too large to go into that. I called it over twice; it went through my hands three times I believe.

Who do you deliver them to when you have called them over? - It is my business to load the coach; the porter brings out the things to me to load the coach.

Do you remember whether this box was, or not, delivered to you? - I cannot say whether I did load it or not, there were many articles that night, I believe thirty-seven or thirty-eight. I had a candle to load the coach by, if it had been day-light I might have observed better.

Can you say this box was not delivered to you when you loaded the coach? - I cannot say whether I loaded it or not.

As you saw this box, and took particular notice of it before, and tried to put it into the box, for which it was too large, should you not have taken notice if you had not loaded it, and enquired for it? - We load so many things; we do not take notice after we have called them over; I never had a complaint before; I have driven the coach many years; I did not think any thing was missing.

You drove to St. Alban's; do not you deliver a number of parcels between here and St. Alban's? - No; I never take up any parcels for that short space; I have never delivered any since I drove the coach.

Can you take upon you to remember that no parcels were delivered before you came to St. Alban's? - Yes.

When you come to St. Alban's, and have delivered the bill of the parcels, you have nothing more to do with the coach? - I have done with it.

You cannot say then whether any thing is taken out there? - I can safely say there was nothing taken out; I generally stand by the coach till it sets out again.


I was guard to the Liverpool coach in April last; that was my last night of guarding it, because they began flying the next night.

Who was porter that night? - James Hardwick , he and I carried the parcels to the coach that night.

Have you any reason for remembring that Hardwick was there? - Yes; it was the last night of my going, and I treated them with some rum and water.

Cross Examination.

You bring the parcels, and put them down the wheel? - No. I deliver them to the coachman, and when the porter brings his, I deliver them to the coachman.

How far did you go with the coach that night? - To St. Alban's.

You and the coachman went in and drank there, I suppose, before you parted? - Not till after the coach was gone; we changed horses before that at Mims.

Where was the coachman then? - He went into the stable to fetch the horses, I believe; I staid with the coach.

Court. Is it the business of any other person besides you to stand by the coach while the coachman gets the horses out? - No. I was hired on purpose.

Have you any remembrance of this parcel that night? - No; I remember nothing about any of them.

To Dennet. What part of the coach are the things in the strong box put into? - Into the boot the first thing.

This box, as it would not go into the strong box, if it was put in at all, was probably the last thing? - It was probably the first, as it stood close to the strong box.


I am book-keeper to the Liverpool coach; at Stony Stratford, in examining the bill of parcels, I found No. 10. a box directed to Ralph Eden , Liverpool, missing.

Describe how you mark off the bill of parcels.

(The bill of parcels produced.)

Court. This is the bill of parcels you marked off? - Yes.

Those you mark off are the goods that are there? - Yes.

You can tell at any future time what things were there, and what were not? - Yes.

I see there are several other boxes, besides No. 10, that are not marked off? - Perhaps there is B put against them, which means they are in the strong box.

Some with the B are marked off, some not; what is the reason of that? - Perhaps they were to be left at Wellington, they have the key of the box at Wellington; I never mark off the things in the strong box, I cannot come at them.

This bill goes farther then? - Yes.

Who is Mr. Dowling? - I do not know.

Look at the writing at the top of the bill, do you know any thing about that? - It is written by Mr. Webster at Wellington, one of the proprietors of the coach (reads).

"Mr. Denham is desired to enquire after

"No. 10, it did not appear at Wellington, it

"does not appear to be marked off at Stony


Who is Mr. Dowling? - An outside passenger.

Cross Examination.

How far is Stony Stratford from London? - Fifty-two miles; they change horses at Mims, St. Alban's and Dunstable.

The coachman is alive who drove the coach from St. Alban's? - Yes.

Is he here? - No.

This bill you received from him? - Yes.

You saw the coach unloaded, and loaded again? - Yes.

They call the things over, and you mark them off? - Yes.

Is the porter here that unloaded it? - No; the horse-keeper of the coach generally unloads it.

He is not here? - No.

To Dennett. Are you sure in your recollection what day of the month it was this parcel was booked, and was to go by the coach? - Yes; it was the last day of our slow work, Friday the 2d of April, the bill is always dated the next day, when we go out late at night.


I am a watchmaker at Leeds, some time in the month of July, the prisoner came to my shop, and said he had got some watch-cases to sell. I said, they are things not common to sell, how came you by them? He said, he came to London with some cloth to sell, and took these watch-cases in payment for his cloth.

Did you know him before? - Yes; I knew him before, but had not seen him for years. I asked him what he would take for them? He said 18 s. a pair. I said, I thought

they were not worth so much. I weighed them, and bid him a price for them.

Did you buy any? - Yes, eighteen pair.

What did you give for them? - I cannot recollect.

Was there any mark upon them? - Nothing but what is common.

Have you them here? - I have some of them; I had sold several before I heard any thing of this; I have none but what have been out of my possession. I desired him to leave them two or three days, and I would enquire his character. I enquired his character and then bought them of him. When I first knew him he lived at Hartford, about six miles from Leeds; he lived servant with a gentleman; his father was a cloth-maker; I believe the prisoner at first was apprentice to a cloth-maker.

Did he deal in cloth? - I heard he did.

Cross Examination.

He sold them publickly in your shop? - Yes; in the middle of the day; there were several people in the shop at the time.

Was 18 s. a pair above or under the value of these cases? - I think it was more than they were worth.

You did not take notice of any particular marks which distinguished these cases from any other cases? - No, I did not.

These have been out of your possession? - Yes.

Where had you the two cases from, which you produce now? - From Coventry; I sent them there to have movements put into them.

Can you speak with certainty to these being the cases you sent there, and bought of this man? - I cannot.

To Lathwaite. Did you make these cases? - Yes; these are my marking.

You have sold a vast number besides those you sent to Liverpool? - Yes; vast numbers; we never lost a box before.


On the 27th of January I apprehended the prisoner at Portsmouth. I found upon him a pair of watch cases; as soon as we had apprehended him, the two gentlemen who came down after him, Mr. Denham and Mr. Heley, accused him of stealing the box, at the Swan with two Necks, in Lad-lane; he denied it at first, upon a letter being produced from Mr. Radford at Leeds, giving an account how he had sold eighteen pair of watch cases to him, he seemed in a fright, and owned he had sold the watch cases to Mr. Radford; he was so much frightened he could hardly speak, he then said he had one pair by him.

Court. Did he tell you how he came by these cases? - No; he said, he did not steal them.

Did he give you any account how he came by them? - No; he did not.

Cross Examination.

All that he said was that he sold some cases to Mr. Radford? - Yes; he acknowledged the contents of the letter to be true.

(The letter was produced).

How long had he lived there? - I believe about a month; I lived there; I apprehended him.

Court. Is the letter produced, the letter which was read to the prisoner? - I cannot say; it has been out of my possession; I believe, if I look at it I can tell whether it is or no (looks at it); yes it is the letter.

(The letter was read.) Addressed to Mr. Benjamin Denham , Lad-lane, London. Signed Thomas Radford , Leeds, Jan. 17, 1780.


"I received a letter from Mr. Wall and Holt about some watch-cases I bought, I shall be glad to serve you with any assistance I can concerning them; the man I bought them of is named James Hardwick , he lives about seven miles from Leeds, trades in cloths, goes to London about once or twice a year; he told me he got them from London in payment for some cloth. I believe he is at London. I wish you would let me know when they were lost, and how many of them. I have none of them by me, but if you desire it I believe I can get you a sight of some of them."

Did he say how he came by those watch cases? - No; he said he had one pair by him in a bag in his room; I went and found them.

To Nevill. Look at that case, is it Mr. Lathwaite's make? - Yes.

You are certain of it? - Yes, there is P. L. upon it which is my master's mark.

Court. Is there any mark on that case to enable you to tell what time your master made it? - Yes, within a year. I cannot tell nearer than that.

Your master made a great many in the year? - Yes, some hundreds.

Can you tell who made that? - Yes, Thomas Knight ; he was apprentice to my master then, he is not now.


I work for Mr. Lathwaite. I made this case for Mr. Lathwaite. It was made last year by the letter of the Hall mark, which changes every year; but I do not know what month it was.

To Mr. Denham. How soon did you receive advice from Liverpool, that this box was not received? - On the 8th of April the advice was dated the 6th. The coach is two days coming to town.

Did the prisoner continue in your service then? - He did, but I had no suspicion of him in the least.

How long did he continue in your service afterwards? - I cannot say, he went down to Yorkshire soon after, I cannot recollect the day.

Was it commonly known in the yard that the box was lost? - It was known in the counting-house.

Was it not known to the porters? - I do not know that. We do not make these things known to the porters. I thought the box was sent, and they might have made some mistake on the road.

Prisoner. I leave my defence to my counsel.

(It was admitted by the counsel for the prosecution that the prisoner bore a good character.)


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-51
VerdictNot Guilty

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147, 148. THOMAS PICKERING and THOMAS CORN were indicted for that they one piece of copper money called a half-penny unlawfully and feloniously did make, coin, and counterfeit , against the statute, &c. February 1st .


I belong to Sir John Fielding's Office. On the 1st of February an information was given us about some coining business being carried on at Holford's court, Fenchurch-street , at a large house, the door of which was painted brown. I took a hackney-coach at seven in the morning of the 1st of February. I secreted myself therein to observe who went into this house. Between the hours of seven and eight I saw the prisoner Corn go into that house. I staid there till near nine o'clock. I did not see Corn come out again, nor no one go in after that time. Then I went to the office. I returned there again about the hour of eleven, with a city constable and some more of Sir John Fielding 's people. We went to that house; I lifted up the window, and Prothero jumped in immediately. That room is I believe called the kitchen. We saw none but a woman sitting there; we ran up stairs immediately, but saw no one there. There were no goods nor furniture. We left somebody below to take care of the woman.

Do you mean there was no furniture or goods in any part of the house? - Yes; there was, but not up stairs. We then went down into the cellar; there we found a large press fixed with two dies in it, and a cutting out press near it.

What was the large press for? - Making half-pence. There was one half-penny between the dies. The other was for cutting out of blanks. I then came up stairs and asked the young woman below who the house belonged to; she said she was nothing but a servant and did not know. We found a vast quantity of blanks; and I think there are fourteen pair of dies besides the pair out of the fly. We also found a vast quantity of copper which is here. I was searching round the place, upon the shelf lay a letter, which I believe Mr. Vernon has got; it was directed to Thomas Pickering , at the Crown in Lad-lane.

Is that the letter? - It is. I shewed it to Mr. Prothero; he desired I would go immediately with the city constable to the

Crown in Lad-lane. I went there, and found Pickering and Corn both sitting together. We took them to the house where the tools were found. I asked Corn if that was his lodging; he said it was not.

Did you say any thing to Pickering? - I did not; Mr. Phillips was with him. I searched Corn, but found nothing upon him. I did not search the other.

Have these dies been in your custody ever since? - They have been in Prothero's custody.


You are another of Sir John Fielding 's officers? - I am. I went with Jealous to Holford-court. When I got in at the window, I saw a woman sitting in the room; I opened the passage door to let the rest of the officers in; then I ran up stairs. The information was, that they coined silver as well as half-pence, and generally coined the silver up stairs, that caused me to run up stairs first. I found all the rooms up stairs empty; there was not any furniture in them. Then I ran down stairs again and went into the cellar, there I found a great press with a large fly.

Is thathere? - It is in a cart in the yard, it is too heavy to be brought into court. There were two dies in it. These cuttings lay near the press.

These are what they call secil? - They are. Here are a vast quantity of blanks which lay by the press; there are a great many more in the box. These were put in a sieve. There is a hole made in the ground to sit down to feed the die with them. There was a cutting out press. These two dies (producing them) I took out of the press; and I have some half-pence, which I believe were struck with these (producing a large box full) there are some for farthings and some for half-pence.

All the implements were there that are necessary to complete this process of coining? - Yes, sawdust and oily sacks. They put them into sacks with dust, and oil them, and then they shake them backwards and forwards to clean them.

The other press is bigger than this, is it not? - It is ten times as big as this. Jealous told me he had found a letter which was addressed to Pickering and Corn at an alehouse in Lad-lane. I bid him take Phillips, a city constable, and go there, and secure them, and bring them to the house. They went and found them there. They found two half-pence amongst some others upon Pickering, which half-pence tally with these dies.


You likewise attended this search? - Yes. There was a letter found in the house, we went according to the direction of that letter, to the Crown in Lad-lane; there we found Pickering and Corn. I searched Pickering, when we brought them back to the house, and found some half-pence upon him. I selected these two (producing them) from the others.

Have you examined them with the other half-pence found in the house? - Yes, and with that die too.

Do they correspond? - Yes, they do with the die that was in the press.

Cross Examination.

Are you clear that these halfpence fit those dies exactly? - I am very clear.

There are a vast number of halfpence I suppose about town which will fit those dies? - I do not know that any will fit those dies so exact as these do.


The house wherein the press was found, belonged to me. I let it to Pickering at Christmas last. While it was empty there was a bill stuck up at the end of the court signifying that there was a house to let; he offered himself to me as a tenant. I asked him his trade; he said he was a fancy weaver. I asked him who he was known to; he said to a neighbour of mine, Mr. Spratlin, a haberdasher. I went to Mr. Spratlin, who said he had purchased goods of Pickering in his business. In consequence of that I received him as a tenant. He continued my tenant till the time he was taken up.

- LUTWYCHE sworn.

I live in Fenchurch-street, at the corner of Holford-court.

Who were the persons who occupied that house? - I cannot tell.

Who used to go in and out of that house?

- I have seen Corn go in and out frequently.

Who else? - Nobody else, particularly to swear to.

Then you never saw the other prisoner go in and out? - I cannot recollect that ever I did.

Mr. GREGORY sworn.

You are a monier of the Mint? - I am.

Look at these dies and these halfpence; were either of those halfpence made at the Tower? - They were not; they are counterfeit; they appear to me as if they had been struck from these dies.

Court. The old halfpence are those that were found in Pickering's pocket? - Yes; the letters upon this die, and those upon the halfpence correspond together.

Counsel for the prisoner. Can you, upon your oath say, that these two old ones were made from these dies? - I will not say that.

Counsel for the crown. When a number of halfpence are struck from a die, that must wear the die of course? - It certainly does.


I left the house before Christmas; I left it to one John Dawker ; I had let the lodgings, but I had left some things in them.

Prothero. There was a pair of buckskin breeches upon the bed; I asked Pickering if they were his? He said no; but when he was at Sir John Fielding 's he said they were his breeches. I said, are they your's, and do you make a demand of them? He said yes.


I know nothing of the house. I am a journeyman hatter , and work for Messrs. Jackson and Son in Coleman-street.

For Corn.


I have known Corn these ten years, he is a hat maker, he works for Messrs. George Jackson and Son, in Coleman-street. I have a letter here from his master.

Was he in his employment in January and February last? - For these four years past, to my certain knowledge.

Have you often seen him in his business? - He is as hard a working man as can be.

Are you of the same trade? - Yes.

And also work for Mr. Jackson? - Yes.

And Corn was constant in his business? - Yes, he was.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-52
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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149. JACOB JONAS was indicted for stealing a wooden trunk, value 5 s. a silk gown, value 3 l. a stuff gown, value 40 s. a silk petticoat, value 10 s. a silk cloak, value 6 s. a pair of silver shoe-buckles, value 5 s. a pair of silver shoe-buckles set with stones, value 6 s. a smelling bottle, value 2 s. five muslin aprons, value 3 l. a dimity petticoat, value 3 s. a silk handkerchief, value 1 s. two cambrick aprons, value 18 d. two pair of ruffles, value 3 s. a small heart set in gold, value 10 s. four pair of cotton stockings, value 2 s. four linen shifts, value 12 s. and three cambrick handkerchiefs with narrow edging, value 12 s. the property of Stephen Fromantin , January 15th .


On the 15th of January I lost my trunk, containing the things mentioned in the indictment (repeating them); it was cut away from a post-chaise, in Eastcheap .


On the 15th of January I was going into the country with two ladies; I stopped at Mr. Smith's in Eastcheap. I went in and left orders with his clerk for him to send some things into the country; when I came out I heard the cry of stop thief; I saw the prisoner running, I pursued him, and at a little distance a gentleman stopped him. I brought him back to the chaise; he made an attempt to bite my hand; I let him go, and some people took him, and brought him into Mr. Smith's compting house; the trunk was dropped a little on one side the post-chaise. While he was in Mr. Smith's compting house he offered to go for a soldier or a sailor.

Did he confess cutting the trunk away? - Not before me.


I am a post-chaise man; as the chaise was

standing at Mr. Smith's door, I saw the prisoner and another man about the chaise; the prisoner was underneath, cutting the trunk away, and the other man had hold of it. I said, d - n your eyes, what are you doing of? and immediately he dropped it; the prisoner crept from under the chaise and ran away. I cried out, stop thief, and another man took the prisoner by the collar.

Did you see him cut it? - No; I saw the other pull it, the straps were cut.

You are sure the prisoner came from under the chaise? - Yes; he was never three yards out of my sight.


I am a constable. I live next door but one. I heard the cry of stop thief. I went out to see what was the matter; they gave me charge of the prisoner. I took the prisoner in one hand, and the trunk in the other; these are the straps which were cut away (producing them).

To Thorpe. Are you sure the trunk was fixed to the post chaise? - Yes; and very fast. I felt it as soon as I came to the door.


I know nothing of the trunk at all, they were hallooing out stop thief! I saw three or four running, and ran to see what was the matter, a man laid hold of me; the post boy ran four or five yards past me, crying stop thief! I know nothing of it.

Dring. When I had him in custody, he attempted to stab me with a knife; he cut my coat in six places.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Baron PERRYN .

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-53
VerdictNot Guilty

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150. PHILIP BRIDGEMAN was indicted for stealing a silk handkerchief, value 2 s. and 3 s. 6 d. in monies, numbered , the property of Elizabeth Jones , spinster , January 25th .

(The witnesses were examined apart at the request of the prisoner.)


On the 25th of January I lost a handkerchief and 3 s. 6 d. in monies out of a drawer in the room where I sleep.

At what time? - Between eleven and twelve at night. I was called down by my landlady, when I went up again they were gone. I took my cloak out of the drawer just before I went down; and then I saw the handkerchief and money. I left no one but the prisoner in the room.

What is the prisoner? - A hair-dresser , at Acton, I believe; he was an acquaintance of mine a great while ago, when I was a servant.

How long did you stay down stairs? - About a quarter of an hour; when I came up he was gone.

Is your room up one pair of stairs or two? - Two pair of stairs forward.

What room was you in below stairs? - In the fore room of the next house; when I returned I went to the closet to see if he was there, I thought he might be there out of fun. When I found he was not there, I immediately looked in the drawer and missed the handkerchief and money.

How came you to go and look immediately in the drawer? - Because he had served me so before, this is not the first time of his serving me so.

Were these other things in the same drawer? - Some caps; there was nothing but what was trifling. I went after him, and found him at a night house in Covent Garden, and the property was found upon him, in his great coat pocket.

Are you sure it was your own handkerchief? - Yes; there was George Stubbs upon the corner of it at full length, in Indian characters; it was my cousin's, who is gone to sea. I did not want to hurt the prisoner, he was willing to give it me back again, and make it up.

Did he acknowledge the handkerchief was your's? - Yes, he did.

The money was like other money, you could not swear to that? - I could not say any thing to the money.

Cross Examination.

Bridgeman was an acquaintance of yours? - Yes.

He frequently used to spend his time at your house? - Not frequently.

What are you? - A servant, out of place.

You lodge in Drury-lane, when you are out of place, always? - Yes.

In Shorts-Gardens? - Yes.

How long have you lived there? - Between five and six months.

Where did he pick you up? - In James-street.

Did not you meet him in the night house? - I met him at the night-house door.

He went home with you at that time of the night? - Yes.

You left him in the room though you knew he had robbed you before? - I locked the street door when I went out.

You expected to have him there all night? - He might have stayed all night if he would.

Did not you tell this gentleman you was going to meet some of your friends, the constables of St. Giles's? - No.

When you came back from the next door he was gone, and you found him at the night-house, where you had met with him before? - Yes.

And though you charged him with the robbery, he would not give up this handkerchief, he would keep it for your sake? - He would not give it up.

It was past eleven o'clock when you met with him? - Yes.

When he came up stairs you desired him, I suppose, to pull his hat and great coat off, and sit down, did not you, and bid him go to bed, when you went out? - I said there was a bed, he might go to bed if he would.

Did not he tell you he went away to the night house, because you mentioned going to the constables of St. Giles's to drink with them? - He said he thought I was gone for some constables.

He thought you was gone to get the constables to press him, do not you do such things? - No.

You never heard of any such thing in your way? - I do not.

You know there is money to be got that way? - I do not know.

You get your money then in the fair trade? How did he get out if you locked the door after you? - He said somebody let him out; I did not leave any body in the house but him, that I know of.

Court. Do you know whether there was any one else in the house at that time? - I do not know whether there was or not.

Counsel for the prisoner. When you came to this house, and said he had a handkerchief, and he said he had not, I believe you pointed to the great coat, and bid the constable look there? - No, I did not.


I am a constable; on the 25th of January while I was at the watch-house a watchman told me there was a man in the night-house in James-Street, who had robbed a woman of a handkerchief. I went to the night-house; I saw the prisoner there; I brought him to the watch-house; I desired him to turn his pockets inside out, to see if a handkerchief was concealed in his pockets; he pulled out two handkerchiefs which were in his under coat pocket, and said he had no other. I observed a bulk in the right-hand side of his great coat pocket, I insisted on searching it, and he then pulled out this handkerchief (producing it) which answered to the descrlption the prosecutrix had given of it; he said he did not know how that handkerchief came into his pocket.

Did he seem surprised when he found that handkerchief? - I think he was surprised; the handkerchief is very remarkable, for there is the name Stubbs stamped on the handkerchief; he said he did not know there were pockets in the great coat, that he had borrowed it of a gentleman that night.

Did the young woman claim the handkerchief when she saw it? - Yes, immediately; he still persisted in being innocent of taking it, or knowing that it was in his pocket; she also accused him of taking 3 s. 6 d. in monies. I desired him to turn the money out of his pocket, which he readily did, there was about 9 s. 2 d. he accounted for that by saying he had changed half a guinea to pay for some purl that he and his serjeant had drank together, and that was the remainder of the change.

Who first told you the man was at the night-house and had stolen the handkerchief?

- One Gibson, a watchman, in James-Street; the girl had given him the information.

Did you see the girl before you went into the night-house? - I saw the girl in the passage of the night-house; she said there was a man who had robbed her of a handkerchief.

Did she give you any directions where to search for this handkerchief? - Not the least in the world upon my oath.

Had you any intimation from any one where to search for this handkerchief? - not the least in the world.

Cross Examination.

How long have you known the prosecutrix? - About nine or ten months.

What business does she follow? - I looked upon her to be a girl of the town.

She is a notorious street-walker? - Most certainly she is.

You have known her follow the business ten months? - Yes.

You know she has lived in Short's Gardens these ten months? - I hardly knew where she lived; they said she lived in St. Giles's.

When you came to the night-house she was waiting at the door for you? - Yes.

What time was this? - About one o'clock.

Who first gave you an intimation where the handkerchief was? - Nobody, I first observed the bulk; she said perhaps he had thrown the handkerchief away; he seemed quite surprised when he found the handkerchief; he seemed to have a deal of innocency about him, for that reason I locked up the girl.

Did he know before you came to the night-house that any body was coming for him? - I believe not by his behaviour.

Was he ever out of your sight before he got to the watch-house? - No, never, I told him at the watch-house it might become a serious matter, and if he had played any trick with the girl's handkerchief, he had better give it her again; as we went to the watch-house I held him by the left arm.

Might not he have put his right hand into his pocket and thrown the handkerchief away as he went to the watch-house? - He might; he had all the appearance of innocence as much as I ever saw in a man in my life, except the handkerchief being found upon him.


The constable asked me what handkerchiefs I had about me? I told him two and no more. I pulled one out of one pocket, and the other out of the other, and then sat down again; He said had I no other pockets? I said I had no waistcoat pockets, and I never put a handkerchief in my breeches pocket. She said you have forgot to search your great coat pockets, I said I did not know that I had any great coat pockets; that I had borrowed the coat of a gentleman. I felt in the pocket and found this handkerchief there; I said it was not mine, I did not know whose it was.

For the Prisoner.

- READ sworn.

I am a watchmaker in Little Britain; I have known the prisoner from a child, I know him to be as honest a man as ever lived. As soon as I heard he was in trouble, I bailed him; I would have trusted him with any sum of money; he is a hair-dresser, he waits upon gentlemen at Ealing, Acton. and round about the country; I believe he is as honest as any man I ever knew.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-54
VerdictNot Guilty

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151, 152, RICHARD BOWER and JOSEPH O'KELLY , were indicted for that they being evil designing and disorderly persons, of wicked and malicious dispositions, on the 1st of January , about the hour of twelve in the night, in and upon one John Brooks , in a certain open place near the king's highway, did make an assault, the said Richard Bower for firing a loaded gun at the said John Brooks ; and the said Joseph O'Kelly for being present, aiding, abetting, assisting, comforting and maintaining the said Richard Bower the said felony to do and commit .


I am a lighterman and coal-merchant .

Do you know the prisoner? - Yes, O'Kelly is gardener to Sir Thomas Frederick ; Bower, is the son of a man who carries on the gardening business. On the 1st of January several of us had been at Mr. Lusen's, at Hammersmith, we came away about twelve o'clock - Just at the opening of Fulham Fields , I heard a shrieking, like a woman's voice, I thought somebody was using a woman ill; when we came near the place the voice came from, I said halloo, what are you about here? directly a gun went off in a direct level to my face; it was, I suppose, within two yards of me, it flashed very near me. Then immediately another gun went off, that gun was pointed rather upwards; I stood in such a surprise, I did not know how to contain myself. I have been drowning and catching for life, and I never was so frightened before. I said, What are you? Who are you? One Mr. William Eyres , who was behind lighting the women, came forward with a candle and lantern, and when we came to see whether it was the prisoners, I asked them what they meant by it. I believe I said I would take them into custody, they were fit to serve the king. They said they had a right to fire their guns, and they would do as they liked, they bid the law defiance, and bid me defiance. I said to Kelly, I charge you to aid and assist in the king's name, for I would have taken them all to gaol that night. The women cried out, Do not take them! do not take them! They persuaded me not, because they knew them; as Bower was going along, he still abused me; afterwards I went to the bench of justices.

(On his cross examination he said, he was a constable, that he was perfectly sober; that it was so dark that the person who fired the gun could not have seen him; that he saw the gun pointed towards him by the flash before he removed the gun from his shoulder; that there was another man with the prisoner, but the prisoner did not know which of them it was that fired towards him; that he waited to make a charge against the prisoner 'till a bench of justices sat, when he attended, and was bound over to prosecute them.)


We had been to dine at Hammersmith; just after we had passed by Mr. Serjeant Davy's house, I heard a scream, like that of a woman; the women with us were frightened a good deal; Mr. Brooks said, Mr. Lewis let us walk on and see who these people are; soon after that I heard two guns fired. I saw the second gun; Mr. Brooks said you shall go to the cage or are fit to serve the king. I went over the rail to Mr. Bower, and said Mr. Bower you are a man that pretends to know yourself very well, I am surprised you should fire a gun at this unseasonable time of night, on purpose to frighten us; he said, is not this a proper place to fire a gun? No; said I, I do not think it is a proper place just by a nobleman's window, and in the footpath by the king's highway. Bower said, you are all very red indeed. Mr. Brooks was in a sad passion, he charged us to aid and assist in the king's name, and he would have them in the cage. I saw the gun which was fired second up at Bower's shoulder. I saw by the flash it was pointed in the air.

(The prisoners were not put on their defence.)


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

23rd February 1780
Reference Numbert17800223-55
VerdictGuilty > theft under 1s
SentenceMiscellaneous > fine; Imprisonment

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153. WILLIAM VENABLES was indicted for stealing a surtout coat, value 4 s. and a linen handkerchief, value 6 d. the property of John Stevenson , January 28th .


On the 28th of January I went into Mr. Mather's, a publick-house, the Bell, in Bell-court, Gray's-inn-lane , to have a pint of beer. I had a surtout coat in a handkerchief. I went into a little parlour and laid the bundle down on a table. Mr. Venables and an acquaintance of his were sitting at the other side of a round table, drinking; they went out, and in about two or three minutes after I missed the bundle.

Was you sitting at the table where your bundle was? - No; at another table where the prisoner was; when they went out they went by the table where the bundle was, there was not any one in the room but the prisoner, the other man, and I; upon missing the bundle, the landlord and I went out in pursuit of the prisoner and the other man; I was out about an hour and an half, looking into every public-house for them; when I returned, I ran through the bar into the back

room and saw my bundle lying on the table. I said, it is no matter my bundle is come back.

Was it lying on the same table? - No; on the little table by the back window.

Who was in the parlour when you went back again? - No one, to the best of my knowledge; I understood that the landlord had taken the prisoner, and carried him to the watch-house.


Do you know any thing of this bundle which was lost at your house? - Yes. Mr. Stevenson came in with a bundle and laid it down on the table in the back parlour. He sat down in company with the prisoner and another man who was with him; the prisoner and the other man went out; Stevenson missed his bundle. He said to me Mather do you know any thing of my bundle? I said, there had been none in the room but the prisoner, and the other man. I went out after the prisoner, and took him in Holborn with the bundle. I brought him back to the house, and delivered him to a constable; before the justice he said he kicked the bundle before him in the passage.

You are sure you found the bundle upon him? - Yes; he had it in his left hand, the other man was with him; he said he did not know that he had the bundle till I took hold of it.

(The coat and handkerchief were produced in court.)

Prosecutor. This coat is my property; I am sure it was made on my shop-board.

Is the handkerchief your's? - I bought it.

Is that the bundle you laid on the table in Mather's house? - This is the bundle.


Though I am before a court of judicature, I hope I have a jury which will look in an impartial manner on every thing; I went into the publick-house to have a pint of beer; meeting with some agreeable company, especially the prosecutor, I stayed the whole evening. I then was going away; a man who was there asked me where I was going. I went out with him; as I was going along he asked me to hold the bundle while he made water; as I was holding it, the publican came up, and the other man ran away.

To Mather . Did they both come in together? - Yes.

When you took the prisoner, did the other man run away? - No; he came back to see what was the matter.

To the prosecutor. Did the prisoner appear to be drunk or sober when he was in the house? - He might be intoxicated, I cannot pretend to say.

To Mather. Did he appear to be drunk or sober? - He could not be sober; he had been there four or five hours.

The prisoner called five witnesses who gave him a good character

GUILTY of stealing the goods to the value of 10 d .

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Fine. See summary.] [Imprisonment. See summary.]

Old Bailey Proceedings punishment summary.
23rd February 1780
Reference Numbers17800223-1

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*** The trials being ended, the court proceeded to give judgement as followeth:

Received sentence of death, seven.

Robert Anders otherwise Andrews, Richard Palmer , Christopher Plumley otherwise John Williams, Christopher Burrows , John Burden , William Herbert , and John Pears .

Navigation 1 year, six.

John Blake , Joseph Robins , Jacob Jonas , William Cutler , John Booker , and Joseph Waller .

Whipped and imprisoned 6 months, three.

Hester Hale , Elizabeth Plunket , and Ann Thornton .

Whipped and imprisoned 1 month, four.

Mary Smith , Mary Williams , Mary Warwick , Ann Mould .

Imprisoned 1 year, one.

John Page .

Fined 1 s. and imprisoned 6 months, two.

Jane Ford and Frances Biggs .

Fined 6 s. 8 d. and imprisoned 1 month, one.

William Venables .

Navigation 2 years, two.

John Fairbrother and Richard Thompson .

Whipped, ten.

Elizabeth Vickery , Elizabeth Emery , John Moore , Eleanor Keys , Henry Newth , John Bushby , William Harris , Mary Wilmot , and Richard Moulds .

Old Bailey Proceedings advertisements.
23rd February 1780
Reference Numbera17800223-1

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This Day is published, Price Half a Guinea, DEDICATED (with Permission) to the KING, BRACHYGRAPHY; Or, An easy and compendious SYSTEM of SHORT-HAND, ADAPTED (After more than Forty Years Practice) to the various Sciences and Professions By the late Mr. THOMAS GURNEY .

The NINTH EDITION, considerably improved according to the present Method, By his Son and Successor JOSEPH GURNEY , (WRITER OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)

Sold by M. GURNEY, No. 34, Bell-Yard, Temple-bar.

*** The Book is a sufficient Instructor of itself, but if any Difficulties occur they shall be removed upon Application to the Author without any additional Expence.

*** Trials at Law, and Arguments of Counsel are taken in Short-Hand, by J. GURNEY.

Old Bailey Proceedings advertisements.
23rd February 1780
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This Day is published, Price Half a Guinea, DEDICATED (with Permission) to the KING, BRACHYGRAPHY; Or, An easy and compendious SYSTEM of SHORT-HAND, ADAPTED (After more than Forty Years Practice) to the various Sciences and Professions By the late Mr. THOMAS GURNEY .

The NINTH EDITION, considerably improved according to the present Method, By his Son and Successor JOSEPH GURNEY , (WRITER OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)

Sold by M. GURNEY, No. 34, Bell-Yard, Temple-bar.

*** The Book is a sufficient Instructor of itself, but if any Difficulties occur they shall be removed upon Application to the Author without any additional Expence.

*** Trials at Law, and Arguments of Counsel are taken in Short-Hand, by J. GURNEY.

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