25th April 1898
Reference Numbert18980425-302
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour; Imprisonment > penal servitude

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302. HENRY CLEMENTS (65) and DENNIS KELLY (28) , Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.

MR. WILKINSON Prosecuted.

LILY HIRD . I live at 420, Bethnal Green Road, and sometimes assist in Mr. Roberts' shop, Three Colt Lane—on March 25th, about six p.m., Clements came in for a quarter pound of bacon and some cheese, and gave me a 5s. piece—I asked if he had got smaller change—he said that he had not and I gave him a half-crown and other money in change, and put the crown into an ornament—when he went out I went outside, and saw him join Kelly about ten yards off on the same side of the street—they went away together—I went back to the shop, as I was alone and compared the crown with another, and it was lighter—a policeman came in, and I handed it to him—I am sure it is the same, as there is a chip on it, as if it had been done with a knife—I picked the prisoners out at the station—I knew Clements by sight.

Cross-examined by Clements. I put the coin on the table, and when I found it was bad I put it in an ornament, but I had taken it out, and had it in my hand when the policeman came—I bit it and it was soft—it was on the table while I went out, and it was still there when I returned—it was after that that I compared it with the good one, which was also in the ornament—I did not see the detective put a mark on it—I noticed that your nose sticks out—no officer told me who to pick out—I am sure you are the man.

Cross-examined by Kelly. He joined you in the same street, but you went down another street.

ALFRED HANLEY (Detective Officer). On the evening of March 25th I went into Mr. Roberts' shop, shortly after seven, in consequence of information—the last witness handed me this crown piece (produced,) and gave me a description of a man—on the same night at a little after seven I found the prisoners in custody at Bethnal Green—I told them that they answered the description of men charged with uttering a 5s. piece to Lily Bird—they made no reply—about 10.30 Miss Hird came to the station and picked them out from ten others—I found nothing on Clements, and 61. on Kelly, made up of a half-crown, seven sixpences, and nine pence, but no purse—I told Kelly that he was seen to throw something away when he was arrested—he made no reply—Clements said that he had no fixed abode—Kelly said that he lived at a lodging-house in Ratcliff Highway.

Cross-examined by Clements. You can see from the shop; there is an electric light there.

TOM MATHEWS (84 J). I arrested Kelly on March 25th, about seven p.m.—he threw something over a wall near Schneider's warehouse and

the railway—I took him to the station—he said nothing—I watched the prisoners together before I arrested Kelly.

Cross-examined by Clements. You were about a mile from Bethnal Green Junction, or it might be three-quarters—it is impossible to see the shop from the Junction, but outside the shop I could see the electric light.

Cross-examined by Kelly. I did not see you throw anything away at the time I arrested you—I knew nothing then about your being suspected—I have been on duty there about six months.

ALFRED HANLEY (Re-examined.) The Junction is about sixty yards from the shop, not a mile.

SAMUEL KNOWLES (105 J) On the night of March 25th I arrested Clements in Dover Street—I had seen him in Three Colt Lane, sixty yards from Mr. Roberts' shop, with Kelly.

Cross-examined by Clements. I first saw you at 6.30, and about seven o'clock I stopped you in the street, and accused you of stealing a purse—a gentleman said that you had stolen his purse in Dermar Street—I went fifty yards down Dermar Street before I saw you—I said, "You have been in a milk shop '—You said, "No.'

REUBEN STREET . I live at 26, Shubrook Road, Fulham, and am a signalman to the District Railway Company—on the night of April 25th I was in front of Schneider's warehouse, and found this 5s. piece on the railway line; I put it in my pocket—there was no other 5s. piece there—I knew it was bad by the weight of it, and gave it to a policeman.

Cross-examined by Kelly. I found it at 7.52—I did not see it come over—the police came on the line-about 9.10 to look for it, and I gave it to them.

CHARLES STOBERT (Policeman J). On the night of March 25th I received this coin from Street—I marked it, and see my mark on it now.

JANE HAMMOND . I am barmaid at the Crown and Dolphin, Cannon Street, Commercial Road—on March 12th I went into the bar at a little past ten and saw Clements there—he called for drink, which came to 3d., and gave me this half-crown (produced)—he saw me try it in the tester, and said, "What are you doing?" and that he could pay with a half-sovereign—he did not ask for the half-crown back, I kept it, and he was given into custody.

Cross-examined by Clements. You did not ask me to try it; I tried it on my own account—when I said that it was bad you did not say, "I don't believe it"—I broke it that you should not pass it on anybody else—I went and informed Mr. Leader, and you had an opportunity of escaping during my absence—you became very abusive and insulting to Mr. Leader—he was in the saloon bar when I called him—you afterwards gave me 2s. for the drink, and I gave you the change—you used bad language—you were not drunk.

GEORGE LEADER . I am landlord of the Crown and Dolphin—on March 12th my barmaid showed me a coin, and I asked Clements what he meant by passing bad money—I went to the till and found another, which appeared to be from the same mould—I handed them both to a constable—he said, "What can you do? I have paid for the drink; I am too b——clever for you; you can't stop me."

ALBERT FENCEY (143 H). I was called, and took Clements, and found on him a florin, five sixpences, and fourteen pence in bronze—he said, "It is hard that a man like me should be the loser, when she told me it was bad I paid her with 2s. at once"—Mr. Leader handed me these two coins—the prisoners were charged at the Thames Police-court and discharged there—that being only uttering.

Cross-examined by Clements. You said, "You must be a b——y fool to charge me; you roust be b——y mad."

WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER . I am inspector of coin to H. M. Hint—these two crowns are bad and from the same mould, and these two half-crowns are bad and from the same mould.

Cross-examined by Clements. I have seen forty or fifty coins from the name mould.

Clements, in his defence, stated that he did not know that the coins were bad, or he would not have remained within fifty yards of the shop.

Kelly's defence; He said that he saw me throw something away, I said that I did not, it was the first I have heard of it.

GUILTY .—They then PLEADED GUILTY to previous convictions, Clements to unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin on November 13th, 1893, and Relly to a felonious uttering on May 20th, 1895. Six other convictions we a proved against Clements, and 16 against Kelly, who had till 312 days to serve on his last sentence of penal servitude.

CLEMENTS— Eighteen Months' Hard Labour. KELLY— Three Years' Penal Servitude

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