CHARLES GRANDE.
16th November 1891
Reference Numbert18911116-56
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > penal servitude; Imprisonment > penal servitude

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56. CHARLES GRANDE (38) was again indicted (See page 28) for feloniously having in his possession, without lawful authority, a forged bill of exchange, purporting to be drawn by W. Ashburnham.

MESSRS. FORREST PULTON and MUIR Prosecuted, and MR. MORESBY Defended.

WILLIAM JAMES (Detective Sergeant D). On 26th September last I

arrested the prisoner on another charge outside Maiden Railway Station—he had this bag in his right hand—a man named Edwin Smith was with him; he immediately ran away towards Richmond, and I have not seen him since; I have a warrant for his apprehension—I took the prisoner to Maiden Police-station—I left him there and went to No. 1, Oaklands, Acacia Road, Maiden, and there found Mrs. Smith, the wife of the man Smith, in possession of the house, and three small children—I had known her before—I searched one of the bedrooms on the ground floor, and in a drawer of a chest of drawers I found a quantity of papers, amongst them three cheques in this sealed envelope—I opened it at once, on it was "Honble. W. Ashburnham, Subscription Rooms, Knightsbridge"—there were other papers in the drawer, also sheets, collars, handkerchiefs, and ties—I did not And anything in the other drawers—hanging behind the door in that room I found the coat which the prisoner is now wearing, and in a cupboard a pair of trousers belonging to him—by the side of the chest of drawers I found this portmanteau, and in it some papers, partly written in shorthand and partly in longhand—I afterwards went back to Maiden Police-station and said to the prisoner, "I have been and searched your rooms"—he said, "Which rooms?"—I said the two rooms on the ground floor"—he said, "My room is on the first floor"—about four or five hours afterwards I searched the prisoner at Rochester Row station, in London, and found on him a purse containing £34 in gold, English and foreign, a ten-dollar piece, a twenty-franc coin, three ten francs, £29 9s. 5d. in English money, a gold watch and chain, this pocket-book, and one or two other little articles; in the pocket-book, under the date of 21st September, is this entry. "Four Voll £3;" and on September 21st, "From Club I had £49;" also on 22nd, "Paid landlady 5s.;" and underneath, "Sunday £2."

Cross-examined. I went to Acacia Grove, because on the previous Wednesday, 23rd September, I had followed the man Smith's wife and children and some luggage from 213, Carlton Villa, West Kilburn, to No. 1, Oaklands, Acacia Grove—I searched all the rooms in the house—the room on the ground floor was pointed out to me by Mrs. Smith as the prisoner's room—I know that Smith is the man who forged these documents; Mrs. Smith is the wife of the man who is suspected of doings it—I did not mention the portmanteau before the Magistrate, nor about the prisoner's coat—the trousers I recognised as the prisoner's—I did not say before the Magistrate that I found them in the drawer—this particular pair I found in the cupboard—there were trousers in the drawer—I said at the Police-court that I saw the prisoner wearing this particular pair in the dock when he was convicted two years ago—I have seen him wearing them many times—I found the memorandum-book in his pocket—when I arrested him he did not attempt to conceal the bag; he had it in his hand in the ordinary way—there were no documents in the bag—I don't know that the bag was his own; for all I know it might have belonged to Smith—he said nothing about it or its contents.

Re-examined. I saw him wearing these trousers several times between 25th June, 1889, and 25th June, 1891—he was provided with trousers from another source.

By the COURT. I searched the other drawers, they contained clothing, and a quantity of new things; nothing to indicate that they belonged to

the prisoner—there were no women's garments in that room—in the first floor bedroom there were two boxes which I had seen in the possession of Smith and his wife as I followed them from Carlton Villa—at that time nothing was known of this charge.

JOHN HOLLAND CROFT . I live at 2, The Oaklands, Acacia Grove, Maiden—on 1st September I desired to let No. 1 furnished—the prisoner and the man represented by this photograph, whom I knew as Everard Smith, came—I don't think the prisoner gave any name—the rent of No. 1 was to be £6 a month—this document was written out and signed by Everard Smith in the prisoner's presence. (This stated that he was willing to take the house for six months from 22nd September)—Smith paid £3, the prisoner paid £3—they entered into possession of the house on Wednesday, 23rd September—I saw the prisoner there once, that was on the Friday, 25th, I think—Smith's wife stayed there for about a fortnight, and then I got possession of the premises again—I did not see Smith after the prisoner's arrest.

Cross-examined. I saw Smith about twice—I could swear to his photograph—the first time I saw him was about half-past six, between daylight and twilight, and the other time was about nine o'clock; they were at their supper—they did not take the house jointly—I do not know which were the prisoner's rooms, they arranged that between themselves—I lived next door—I did not see Smith and the prisoner coming in and out, I don't know how often they were in the house—I never saw Smith nor the prisoner with a bag, to my knowledge—when I heard of the arrest I said the sooner Smith's wife was gone the better, as they had injured me considerably; I could not force them out before the month.

WILLIAM ASHBURNHAM . I live at 30, Dover Street, Piccadilly—I have a banking account at the St. James's Square branch of the London and Westminster Bank—these documents, 1, 2, 3, 9, and 10 are not signed by me, nor by my authority. (These documents were read: A cheque on the London and Westminster Bank, for £200, payable to Mr. James Webster; a cheque of 21st September, for £150, payable to self or bearer, both signed W. Ashburnham; a letter, "Please to send me three £50 notes" and an envelope)—no part of these documents is in my handwriting—I found, on Tuesday, 29th September, that my account had been debited with these cheques, 9. and 10, for £200 and £150—I occasionally use forms like this, which I get at White's and other clubs; the only difference is, that the forms I use have no woven-in stamp; I put on a penny stamp—I have seen the envelope addressed to me at Tattersall's Subscription Rooms—I have no address there, and am not a member—I never have letters addressed there—I never saw the prisoner until I went to the Police-court.

Cross-examined. I believe you can buy these cheque forms at any stationer's; it is quite a common form—I have no reason to believe that my habit of using them is well known, or that it would be known by Smith or the prisoner—I know nothing of the prisoner.

By the COURT. It is quite clear that the bank thought this was my signature.

WILLIAM PETERS DINNEY . I am one of the cashiers at the London and Westminster Bank, St. James's Square branch—I cashed this cheque marked 9, on 21st September—I have not since seen the person to

whom I cashed it—I cashed it upon the signature as a genuine signature, in three £50 Bank of England notes, Nos. 36658, 35659, 35660, dated 16th January, 1891—this other cheque is on our branch, it came through the central office, and was cashed at our branch—it bears what appears to be Mr. Ashbumham's signature—his account was debited with both those cheques.

Cross-examined. I should say the £150 cheque was cashed in the afternoon—I never saw the prisoner before to my knowledge—I don't believe he was the man to whom I gave the money—I do not connect the prisoner with the £200 cheque.

By the COURT. We have no other customer named Ashburnham, except the gentleman who has given evidence.

Re-examined. The £200 cheque was sent to us by our principal office; it came through some person having an account.

CHARLES JOHN WILLIAMS . I am note inspector of the Bank of England—I produce three £50 notes, Nos. 35658 to '60, dated 16th January, 1891—on the back of each of them is "J. Devereux, Langham Hotel"—35658 and 35659 were paid in on 24th September by the London and Westminster Bank, and 35660 was paid in on 26th September by Lloyds' Banking Company.

NELLIE FISHER . I am married, and live at 36, Shirley Road, West Kilburn, and let out part of it in furnished apartments—the prisoner lodged there from 12th August till 7th September, occupying one room, a bed and sitting room—during that time Smith, the man represented in this photograph, visited the prisoner at my house nearly every day; I think there was only one day he was not there—sometimes he remained some hours, sometimes only a short time—no one else visited there—I knew the prisoner as Mr. Anderson—I went into his room most days when Smith was there—sometimes they were reading, sometimes writing—I noticed on the table a copper plate, with the name on, and a quantity of money lying on the table, sometimes as much as £40 or £50 in gold and silver—I saw money lying about on most mornings when I took breakfast in—I never saw money lying about when Smith was there—this bag was left in my possession to take care of when the prisoner went to Paris, and he said to me it was full of valuable papers and money, and he asked me to take care of it; if my house should catch fire I was to run for the bag—he was away about three days in Paris, about the end of August, I think—he left my house on 7th September; I said another day before the Magistrate, but I could not remember then, and have since taken it out of my rent-book.

Cross-examined. I saw them both reading and writing: Smith was writing as well as the prisoner sometimes—I am quite sure this was the bag the prisoner gave me to keep—I do not know whether it was his more than Smith's; it was left with the prisoner's luggage, given to me as his bag; it was the only bag I saw there—Smith had no bag as well; I saw the bag with the two men—the initials on the bag are not the initials he gave me—any money I saw on the table was before 7th September.

By the JURY. He gave his name as Mr. Anderson, not as William Anderson; the "W. A." was on the bag at that time.

JANE GOURLKY . I am married—I now live at 105, Hartington Road, South Lambeth, but in September I lived and let apartments at 220,

South Lambeth Road—about 3rd September I received this letter in this envelope; in consequence of it I subsequently received at my house certain letters addressed W. Ashburnham, which were called for by among other persons, to the best of my belief, the man represented by this photograph; I could not say for certain it was that man—I was shown a number of photographs at the Police-court, and I picked this out as being the man to the best of my belief—the person did not live there, but only called for letters.

Cross-examined. I am quite clear it was not the prisoner; I never saw him till I was at the Police-station.

JAMES WEBSTER . I am a turf commission agent, late of Calais—in September last I carried on my business there—in the course of post, on 5th September, I received this letter, with a cheque for £200, endorsed—I executed certain commissions for the writer of the letter—I have an account at the head office of the London and Westminster Bank, and I remitted this £200 cheque to that bank after my clerk, who has my procuration, had endorsed it—my account was duly credited with the amount—subsequently on 11th September I received this letter in the same handwriting as the first one, and in consequence of its contents I remitted to W. Ashburnham, 220, South Lambeth Road, my own cheque for £150, which represented the balance, after I had paid myself for losses, commissions, and so on—in due course I was debited with the £150.

Cross-examined. I never saw my client to my knowledge—I taw the prisoner, I think, for the first time at the Police-court.

FREDERICK GEORGE NETHERCLIFT . I am an expert in handwriting—I have had submitted to me for the purpose of comparison a cheque for £200 on the London and Westminster Bank; two cheques for £150, one of them honoured, a memorandum of agreement with Mr. Croft for the tenancy of No. 1, Acacia Grove, signed Everard Smith; an envelope addressed to W. Ashburnham, Subscription Rooms, Tattersall's, Knights-bridge; a letter directed Mrs. Frayer, Temperance Hotel, 41, Blackfriars Road, purporting to be signed by W. Ashburnham; two letters to Mr. James Webster, dated 4th and 11th September, purporting to be signed W. Ashburnham; three bank notes for £50 each, bearing on the back the signature, Deveroux, Langham Hotel, and a number of documents, some portions of which are in shorthand—I have examined all these, together with a memorandum book containing writing—I know the prisoner's writing—to the best of my belief this bundle of longhand writing is his; it is the same writing as that of the memorandum book—the agreement for tenancy, the letters and the bodies of the cheques and the signatures W. Ashburnham on these blank forms, are all in Everard Smith's writing—the writing is disguised from Smith's writing.

Cross-examined. All the forged documents in this case are written by Smith; I am most positive; they are all in the same writing as the agreement written by him—I do not connect the prisoner with any of those forgeries.

GUILTY .*

Twenty Years' Penal Servitude on the first conviction (page 28), and Seven Years on the present indictment, the sentences to run concurrently .


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