25th November 1861
Reference Numbert18611125-32
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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32. WILLIAM DIXON (25), and EDWARD PALMER (20), were indicted for a like offence.

MESSRS. CRAFORD and ROWDON conducted the Prosecution

EMMA MARY HORSFPOOL . I am single, and live with my father, a baker, in High-street, Poplar—on 7th November, Palmer came, and asked for a penny leaf; he tendered a shilling, which I put on the edge of the till, and gave him sixpence and five pence, in coppers—I afterwards gave the shilling to my father—I had not lost sight of it.

Cross-examined by MR. RIBTON. Q. Did you pot it in the till? A. Not right in, bat on the edge—I did not close the till again—I laid it there till my father came—there were other shillings there, but not where that waft—I had no suspicion of it being bad, but I did not know that it was good—I generally lay money on the edge of the till, in case there is any I—my father came in ten minutes after—I had not removed it in the time, or received any other money; nor had any one else—the till did not remain open—it will close, and a shilling will still remain on the edge.

COURT. Q. Is the cup round, told the till square, so that there is a triangle? A. Yes.

JOHN HORSPOOL . I am the father of the last witness—on 7th November, my daughter gave me a shilling—it was on the division of the till; between the cups—I do not allow money to be put into the till, until it is shown to me or my wife—I took it up not two minutes after the man went out; found it was bad, put it in my pocket by itself and afterwards gave it to Nicholl.

Cross-examined. Q. Tour daughter has said that you were out, and came in in ten minutes? A. I was talking to a gentleman in the shop; she has made some mistake—I was not eight minutes after the prisoner was gone—I put the shilling in my waistcoat pocket, and gave it to the policeman, a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes afterwards.

MR. CRAWFORD. Q. Were you inside or outside the counter? A. Inside; talking to a gentleman.

SUSAN GEE . I live with Mrs. Cox, who keeps an eating-house at Blackheath—on 7th November, Palmer came there for one pennyworth of pudding, and gave me a shilling—I gave him 11d. change, and he left—I pot it in the till; there were two or three sixpences there, but no other shilling—soon after he had gone, Wyhes came in, and I took out the shilling, found it was bad, and put it at the back, where there was no other money; I afterwards gave it to Nicholl—our house is about three minutes from Mr. Horspool's.

Cross-examined. Q. Are you sure there was no shilling in the till? A. No; only two or three sixpences.

HENRY WYHES . I live with my father, in High-street, Poplar—on 7th, November, about five minutes past 12 o'clock, I was coming from Brunswick-pier down Bruns-wick-street, and saw the prisoners talking together opposite Mrs. Cox's—Dixon said to Palmer, "Go on, they are busy now," no nodded towards Mrs. Cox's eating-house—Palmer pulled a shilling from his waistcoat pocket, rubbed it with his thumb and finger, went across the road, and got a pennyworth of plum pudding at Cox's—Dijon walked towards Robin Hood-lane where he stopped, and Palmer came out of the shop and they walked on together—I went into the eating-house and said something to Miss Gee, she pulled the till open and pulled out a shilling—I then left and went after the prisoners—I found them still going on together, and

followed them to the East India-road and pointed them out to a constable—we followed them and saw them stand talking about three minutes—Palmer then went into Kennedy's, the tobacconists—Dixon walked up and down outside, and was taken in custody.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you know Susan Gee? A. Yes; I have been often there for pudding—I did not have some that day—Palmer was eating the pudding when he came out—he did not give Dixon any of it; they were about five feet from one another.

MR. CRAWFORD. Q. Was your father in the police force? A. Yes.

MOSES NICHOLL (Policeman, K 97). On 7th November, Wybes pointed out the prisoners to me in the East India-road, about two hundred yards from High-street—they stood still about five minutes, separated, one went over the crossing where it was swept, and the other walked about twelve yards up—Palmer went into the tobacconist's, and I went up to Dixon, and said, "I shall take you in custody for being concerned with the other"—he said that I was quite wrong, he was an umbrella maker, and was looking for his living—I took them to the station, and received this shilling (produced) from Kennedy, another from Horspool, and one from Susan Gee—I searched the prisoners, on Dixon I found eight sixpences, four fourpenny pieces, four threepenny pieces, and 3s. 3 1/2 d. in coppers, a small loaf, a small piece of cheese, two small skins of blacking, and two small ease combs—I was present when Palmer was searched—there was found on him three sixpences, and 4 1/2 d. in copper good money, and half an ounce of tobacco.

ALXXADDER KENNEDY . I am a tobacconist of Virginia-road, Blackwall—on 7th November Palmer came in for some tobacco, and gave me a shilling—I gave him the change—he asked me if I had an old umbrella to dispose of—I said that I had not, and he left—some time afterwards a policeman came and made inquiries—I looked into my till and found three or four shillings, one of which was bad, and I gave it to the policeman—this is it (produced)—I do not know whether it is the one the prisoner gave me.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . These two coins are bad. The prisoners received good characters.

GUILTY .— Confined Nine Months each ,

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