27th February 1837
Reference Numbert18370227-880
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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880. THOMAS PALMER was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of February, 18 trusses of hay, value 2l. 10s., the goods of Thomas Moore, his master.

THOMAS MOORE . I am a cow-keeper and deal in hay, and live in Church-street, Greenwich. The prisoner was in my service as hay-binder, and left last Monday week—I have a part of a stack of hay at Brockley Wood—in consequence of information, I sent for the prisoner, last Wednesday, and told him I had information of his selling my hay, and I had sent for a policeman to give him in charge—he said, "Well, master, I know

I have done it, and I will pay you if you will give me three weeks to pay it in"—I never authorized him to sell my hay—I never received any money from him for it—I gave him in charge immediately.

Printer. When I first went to work for him, he came to me and said, I must make the most of the hay—he said some was worth 5l. a load, and some 4l. 10s. and said, "Perhaps you may get rid of two or three loads for me"—a few days afterwards Mr. Willoughby asked if it was for sale—I said, "Yes, at 5l."—he offered 4l. 10s., and to fetch it himself, which I agreed to. Witness. I never authorised him to sell any hay—I never had any conversation with him about the price—I never told him to get rid of it—there is not one word of truth in what he has said—he never told me he had told it, till I charged him with it—on Sunday he told me a man named Skates wanted two loads—I said, "Very well, I shall see him on Monday."

Prisoner. I got into a coal wagon, and had my hands in my pocket—and when I got out I found I had lost the money.

WILLIAM WILLOUGHBY . I keep Flys at Sydonham. On the 27th of February I went to a stack of hay near Brockley Wood—I saw the prisoner there, and laid, "Is this hay for sale?"—he said, "Yes"—he asked 5l. a load—I said, it was too much, and agreed to have a load at 4l. 10s. after having half a load I said, "Give me a little bill, and I will pay you"—I had fetched the half-load away in two quarters—the prisoner delivered it—it was already cut—he helped to load it—I paid him 2l. 5s. for it, and he gave me a bill, which was made out at the Dartford Arms about 300 yards off—he was loading another cart for Blackheath at the time—the landlord made out the bill (read.)

Prisoner. I sold the hay openly—I can neither read nor write—I did not know but master would come there.

WILLIAM MARSHALL (police-constable R 187.) On Wednesday, the 1st of March, 1 apprehended the prisoner at Lewisham—on the way to the station-house he said he had sold the hay and received the money, and in coming home he got into a wagon, and supposed he had lost the money—I asked him what sort of a wagon it was—he said he did not know—he did not say it was a coal wagon till he got to the station-house—I found no money on him.

THOMAS MOORE re-examined. The prisoner's Employ who only to bind the hay—he sold ten loads at Blackheath—he had not the least authority to tell any—he could not imagine that he had—I never mentioned the price of it to him—I think I told him I had sold Smith some at 4l. 10s.—I did not tell him I wished to sell the rest if he had brought me the money I should have reprimanded him for selling it.

GUILTY .* Aged 60.— Confined Six Months.

Before Mr. Common Sergeant.

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