Offence: Theft > grand larceny
Verdict: Not Guilty
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I live in Lamb's Conduit-street. I lost five sashes last Monday from a building at the bottom of Lamb's Conduit-street , which was not finished. They were in their places, but not hung for use; they were taken in the night between the 8th and 9th of April; there were some parts of them found in Rosemary-lane. I can only speak to the loss of them. I do not know any thing that affects the prisoner.
How were the frames fixed? - They were put in their places; there were no weights nor lines, nor beads; they were put up with temporary pieces of wood. They must have been taken out again to put the lines in.
These are the sashes we found in the prisoner's shop. On the 14th or 15th of April the prisoner was in custody; we had a warrant to search his house; we found some pieces of sashes that belong to Mr. Harrison.
Did you find any whole sashes? - No; they were in pieces.
Had you seen them at Mr. Harrison's house? - Yes; I fitted them in; I made a cross upon them with a chissel; I know them to be pieces of Mr. Harrison's sashes. they were only put in temporarily.
Must they have been taken out again to be hung? - Yes; to put in the weights and lines.
Is it the common practice to put up the sashes before they are hung? - Yes.
How long had they been in? - I suppose six months.
Were they completed? - So far as that they only wanted hanging; when they are hung and the beads nailed they are complete.
When did you make this cross? - When I fitted it in.
Why did you make this cross? - We generally make private marks to know how to fit them in.
What is the prisoner? - A carpenter .
Carpenters make sashes don't they? - Yes.
Do not other carpenters make marks as well as you? - They do not make use of the same mark I suppose.
You will not swear that no carpenter makes a cross for a mark but yourself? - No.
What did you find in the prisoner's shop besides? - A great number of new sashframes cut to pieces.
You cannot swear positively that this is your mark? - There is a fellow sash now marked just the same.
Were these sashes glazed? - Yes.
Fully glazed so as to keep out the weather? - Yes; the man is here that bought the glass.
I am a glazier, and live at No. 5, Jewry-street. On the 15th of April, I had the prisoner taken up on suspicion of stealing six pair of sashes from a building, belonging to one Mr. Seagrow, in Constitution-Row, leading to Pancras. On the 14th he came to my shop with sixteen squares of glass in a box; I had had some of him a few days before, which I had not paid for; coming again with sixteen more, I suspected him; I did not pay him for them, as he said he was coming again in the afternoon. I went to a person and told him I had bought squares of a man several times, and did not know what to think of it; I was then informed of an advertisement of six sashes that had been stolen. The prisoner came the next morning, and I had him taken up; he then said he bought them at sales, and got them from old houses he pulled down; that he took the glass out and made rounds of ladders of the frames.
Can they take the glass out of the frames without breaking of it? - They must break a great many; those brought to me were not broke.
Can you tell by the glass when it has been taken out of frames? - Yes. I did not think that the glass was taken out of new frames.
How long have you been in the business? - Sixteen years.
Did you ever see a house where the sashes were put in their place without being hung? - Yes.
Have you seen any houses that were inhabited where the sashes were in their place but not hung? - No.
Do not carpenters frequently buy sash frames? - Yes; old sash frames and glass together?
Do not they sell the glass to glaziers? - Yes if they choose it.
I made the frames for Mr. Harrison. I I have seen the pieces of frames; as far as my knowledge goes they are the frames I made; they answer the dimensions in every point.
They seem to be remarkably stout frames? - They are what we call two inch sashes.
(The pieces of frames and a square glass were produced in court.)
Prosecutor. This is a remarkably crooked square and it fits the putty in that frame exactly.
As I was coming out of Mr. Maddox's timber-yard one day, a man called to me and asked me if I would buy a couple of old sashes of him; I looked at them, and thought they would do for my own shop; I bought them of him at five pence a foot. When I brought them home they would not fit; I took them to a glazier, and he would not buy them, the putty being hard, without I would take the glass out. I went home and took the glass out and carried it to Mr. Smith, and he gave me six pence a foot for it. A few days after a man brought me two pair of new sashes, which he said belonged to a widow who wanted to dispose of them. I took a pair of them to Mr. Smith, and he would not give me any more than the price of the glass for them, upon which I took them back and took the glass out; one Kelley was in the shop when I bought the two pair, I borrowed four shillings of him to pay for them.
To Smith. Did he bring you two whole sashes? - He brought me a pair of little sashes, which he said he made himself.
Prisoner. I have been in business but three months. I did not know but I was very safe in buying them. Kelly said he would not come till two o'clock; he was obliged to go to the Excise-office. I did not think my tryal would come on so soon.
To the prosecutor. What is the value of it? - About 2 s. 4 d. a foot, the whole is worth about five pounds I believe.
For the Prisoner.
I am an apothecary. The prisoner has lived with me near three years; his wife and family are with me now. He bore a very just, honest, and sober character. I never had the least suspicion of any thing dishonest of him in my life; there are other witnesses to his character, who will be here in a few minutes. If the prisoner had been inclined to be dishonest, he might have robbed me of scores of pounds.
Do you know that Kelly was to appear here to-day? - I do not know any thing of that.
Do you know Kelly? - No; I lent the prisoner a guinea and half to buy some goods about three weeks before he was taken up; I cannot recollect the day.
I have known the prisoner a little more than two years. I always found him a just and an honest man.
I have known the prisoner upwards of two years; I never heard any thing but that he was an honest, hard working man.
NOT GUILTY .