Jane Ives, James Ives.
15th January 1756
Reference Numbert17560115-36
VerdictGuilty > theft under 1s; Not Guilty

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98, 99. (M.) James Ives and Jane his wife were indicted for stealing one silk gown value 5 s. the property of John Bridge , 1 holland gown, the property of Hannah Sparks , spinster , 1 crape gown and 1 linen gown, the goods of Richard Bland , 1 cotton gown, the property of Elizabeth Holmes , spinster , 1 linen gown the property of Ann Albright , spinster , 1 stuff gown, the property of Esther Floyd , widow , and 2 other gowns, the property of Ann Rumley , widow , and Eliz Castels , widow , in the dwelling-house of George Mure , Dec. 22 . +

George Mure . I am a pawnbroker. The prisoner came to my house on the 10th of Dec. about 8 o'clock in the morning, and wanted a pair of shoes which he had pawned before. I went up stairs to see for them, but could not find them. I came down and told him: He said they were certainly in the house, and desired I would search further. I went up again, and when I came down he was gone. There had been nobody in my shop that morning but him and myself, this being before any of the family were up.

Q. Did you m iss any thing then ?

Mure. No, I did not. On the 22d of Dec. he came again, about the same time in the morning. I went up stairs for what he wanted, and when I came down he was gone again.

Q. Did you miss any thing then?

Mure. No, I did not. On the 26th of the same month he and his wife came both together, before 8-o'clock in the morning. I missed nothing till the 29th, when I found some gowns were missing. I enquired among the pawnbrokers, and found one gown pledged in the woman's name. I took out a warrant from justice Wright, and carried both the prisoners before him, where the woman said she found that gown with another in the street.

Q. Whose gown was that you found?

Mure. It was the property of Elizabeth Castels , which she had pledged with me; the other gown, which the prisoner mentioned, she had pawned in Russel-street; it was the property of Esther Floyd , and pledged with me.

Q. Where did these gowns lie in your shop?

Mure. They lay upon two shelves, one over their heads as they came in, and the other facing the door on the other side the counter; I lost the other gowns mentioned in the indictment, but have not met with any of them.

James Ives . I never was at the prosecutor's house but once, and then I came away without seeing him.

Thomas Atkinson . On the 21st of January Mr. Mure call'd upon me, and told me he had missed some gowns, and that he suspected the two prisoners at the bar had taken them. He desired I

would go with him to a pawnbroker, named Ireton, in Crown-court: We went, and there we found one; then we went to Russel-street, Covent-Garden, to a pawnbroker there, where we found the other.

Philip Spencer . I am servant to Mr. Ireton ( he produced a gown) the woman at the bar pledg'd this with me on the 10th of Dec.

Q. At what time of the day;

Spencer. About the middle of the day.

Q. What did you lend her upon it?

Spencer. I lent her 4 s. upon it. She offered me some more gowns a little before, which by the description were taken from the prosecutor.

James Ives . That witness said before the justice he did not mind swallowing an oath; he could swallow an oath at any time.

Court. What do you say to that? You hear what he says.

Spencer. The prisoner said, when we were at the justice's, after I had given an account of what I knew, You have swallowed that oath. I said, Such as this I can swallow at any time; for it is the truth.

Q. Did you say you could swallow or take a false oath?

Spencer. No, I did not.

Robert Davis . Jane Ives , the prisoner, pledg'd this gown with me (producing one). I had no suspicion of her dishonesty, having dealt with her six or seven years.

Q. When did she bring it to you?

Davis. She brought it to me on the tenth of December.

Q. to Mure. Look at this gown. Do you know it?

Mure. This was taken out of my shop. It is the property of Esther Floyd , who is here.

Esther Floyd . She took the gown in her hand. This is my property. I pledg'd it to Mr. Mure on the 15th of Nov. and on the 29th of Dec. I went to fetch it, when it was missing.

Ratcliff Littler. I was coming out of the Little Minories into the Great Minories, when I met with James Ives , the prisoner at the bar.

Q. When was this?

Littler. It was about 3 or 4 days before last Christmas. He said, brother soldier (for we are both soldiers) have you an uncle living any where this way?

Q. What did he mean by that expression?

Littler. He meant a pawnbroker. I told him I did not know of any thereabouts. He said, I thought you might, being quartered at Tower-hill. I met his wife with her lap full of something, but cannot say what; she followed him at a little distance.

James Ives 's defence.

About six or seven weeks ago I had been at Drury-Lane to buy some leather, when I saw a man much in liquor without his hat. Going a little farther, by the corner of Queen-street, where Mr. Mure lives, I went to make water, and by the side of the stones I saw a bundle and a man's hat; I went to the sign of the Crown, and asked if a man had come in there without a hat: They said, No. I staid there, and had a dram. When I came home I opened the bundle, and found there were two gowns. I kept them six or seven days, and they not being advertised, I thought I had a right to sell them. I sent my wife to pawn one of them, which she did for four shillings, and the other for the same, to buy leather for me to work, and to buy things for my family. My wife never saw them till I carry'd them home to her. As to what Ratcliff Littler says, the things my wife had then in her lap was nothing more than a blanket.

For the prisoners.

Francis Blyth . As to the fact I know nothing of it. I have known the prisoner, James Ives , for these seven years, and I have employed him as a porter out of compassion to his family. He seemed to be poor and very industrious. I have entrusted him with messages, and have sent him with things and money to carry for me, and to take receipts; I have also sent him to my country lodgings, and left him with the keys, where plate and things of value were, when he has been there alone, and I never missed any thing, not so much as a glass of wine. I have often had him a guard over the fields with me, and sometimes with a charge of money, which I should have thought indiscreet, if I was not with a person I could have confided in.

Court. Take care how you talk of such things here; for we don't expect every body honest that comes here.

Blyth. I shall always be careful how I do it again with any body; but I always thought myself extreamly safe when he was with me; I had so

settled an opinion of him, that I could have trusted him with all I had.

Frances Pool . He was servant to my husband, and serv'd him justly and truly.

Q. What is your husband?

F. Pool. He is a shoemaker. The prisoner and his wife are honest, well behav'd people, as any I know.

Thomas Stringer . I have known him two or three years; I never knew any ill of him; I took him to be an industrious man till this affair happen'd.

- Stevens. I have known him these 16 years; he is in the same company where I am serjeant; he behaved extremely well, and did his duty as a soldier. I never heard any complaint of him till this time.

James Ives Guilty 10 d.

Jane Acquitted .

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