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<persName id="t17850511-10-defend161" type="defendantName"> THOMAS BAKER HOPKINS
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<p>(The witnesses examined apart at the request of the prisoner.)</p>
<p>The Case opened by Mr. Silvester.</p>
<persName id="t17850511-10-person162"> JOSEPH HILL
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<p>I am clerk to Mr. Partis, solicitor to the Post-office; this is a copy of the record of the prisoner's conviction, in the year 1782, which I examined with the original record, and it is a true copy; this is Mr. Shelton's hand-writing.</p>
<p>(The record read and examined by the indictment.)</p>
<p>- LEE sworn.</p>
<p>I remember the prisoner; I lived ten years with Mr. Akerman; he was tried for robbing the mail upon Finchley Common; he was respited for the humanity he shewed the boy; he received sentence in September, 1782, of transportation for seven years.</p>
<p>Prisoner. Was you present when I was convicted for this? - No, I was not, but I know he was convicted, because I frequently locked him in the cells; he was delivered on board the Censor bulk on the 11th of January, 1783; I went down with him.</p>
<p>Court. It must be proved that the prisoner at the bar was the man that was convicted of this: how many more received the same sentence? - A great many more.</p>
<p>How came you to recollect that? - It was long vacation, and it is the usual time they receive them.</p>
<persName id="t17850511-10-person163"> JOHN LUCY
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<p>I am a constable.</p>
<p>Was you in Court in the year 1782? - No, I was not, I apprehended the prisoner the 18th of April last, in Brick-lane, Old-street; I have known him some years.</p>
<p>Prisoner. In what situation did you find my apartment when you apprehended me? - He was in bed then, it was between nine and ten; it was a scene of industry, and there was the appearance of two trades going on.</p>
<persName id="t17850511-10-person164"> HENRY LOGAN
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<p>I had the direction of one of the hulks; I know the prisoner very well, he was in my custody four months, from thence he was put on board the Swift, bound to Africa: I was not on board when he was brought, it appeared by the ship's books that he was on board the Censor the 12th of January, 1783.</p>
<p>Prisoner. Who delivered me to the Censor? - I was not on board the hulk when you came; I saw him on board the Swift.</p>
<p>Prisoner. I wish to call Mr. Pitt, and Mr. Owen.</p>
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<p>I am servant to Mr. Akerman; I delivered the prisoner on board, with Mr. Pitt, and some soldiers; but Mr. Lee was not there; but the prisoner is the man, it is impossible for a fellow servant of mine to be on board a brig with me, without my seeing him; he was not on board, Mr. Pitt knows the same.</p>
<p>Mr. Silvester. Lee and you are no longer fellow servants? - No.</p>
<p>How many boats full had you? - One barge; every one of us, excepting one, who staid to mind the gaol, accompanied
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="178505110019"/> him to the waterside, that one is dead; Lee went down with us to the waterside, and only Pitt and me went down to the hulks, besides soldiers; we went with eighty.</p>
<p>Was you present at his trial? - Yes, it was for robbing the mail, I cannot recollect the postboy's name.</p>
<p>Was you present when he received sentence? - I was.</p>
<persName id="t17850511-10-person166"> ROBERT MATTHEWS
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<p>I have known him three years and an half; when the man came from on board the ship, he came to me; he has behaved very well; I employed him to learn my branch of business, which is in the watch way; he was with me six or seven months after I learnt him his business; here are my masters to prove that he has worked for them sievernce.</p>
<persName id="t17850511-10-person167"> JOHN DALTON
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<p>I am a watch-maker; the prisoner has worked for me twelve months; a very industrious man, I never sent to him in my life that I found him out; and I always could depend on my work according to his promise.</p>
<persName id="t17850511-10-person168"> JOHN LUCAS
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<p>I am a watch-movement maker; about this time twelvemonth his wife came in to ask for work at our house, and I gave him twelve or eighteen shillings worth of work, I always had the work when I sent for it; I never saw him but once before, the woman always came.</p>
<persName id="t17850511-10-person169"> ADAM MARTIN
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<p>I am a mathematical instrument maker; I have known the prisoner upwards of fifteen months, and he has had ten or twenty pounds worth of work in his room; he was sober and industrious.</p>
<persName id="t17850511-10-person170"> WILLIAM WOODCHAFE
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<p>He worked for me seven years before the unhappy affair; he sent for me after he was liberated, to know if I would have any thing to do with him; I heard that he worked very honest and industrious in the watch making branch; I sent him a parcel of work, which he had in his room at the time he was taken; I went into his room, and I never saw such a scene of industry in my life: I have that opinion of him, that if he was liberated, I would take him into my employ, as before; he was my foreman.</p>
<persName id="t17850511-10-person171"> JOSEPH BUTLER
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<p>About twelve months ago the prisoner came to me, and asked me for a little work; I said, I am very sorry to see you now, but I will give you all my out-door work, and he has worked for me this twelvemonth, and he behaved my honest and just.</p>
<persName id="t17850511-10-person172"> EDWARD BLUNT
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<p>I am a watch-maker; I have known the prisoner better than a twelve-month, a very hard-working industrious man; I have been frequently in his room.</p>
<persName id="t17850511-10-person173"> ELIZABETH WEBB
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<p>I have known him five months, he lived at my house; I never saw anything but honesty and industry.</p>
<p>Court to Prisoner. Do you call anybody else? - Nobody else, my Lord; I return you many thanks for hearing these; I beg to speak before you deliver the charge. I own myself, my Lord, to be the person that was found at large; but through a good character, I hope you will take it into consideration, and shew me mercy: since I have made my escape, I applied to a friend, Mr. Matthews, and learned the business, and in the course of seven weeks I found I could earn a living; he recommended me to Mr. Dalton; when the watch business was slack, I applied to Mr. Woodchase, and I did at different times work at this business also; and through the mercy and favour that I hope the divine goodness will lead you to shew to me, I trust I shall find favour.</p>
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<p>Mr. Recorder to Prisoner. In strict law you are guilty, but your conduct has been so different from that of others, that I shall particularly mention your case to the King.</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="178505110020"/>Prisoner. My Lord, I have been in my room for eight or ten months, and never been out of doors.</p>
<p>Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. ROSE.</p> </div1></div0>

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