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<p>334. (M.)
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<interp inst="t17690510-51-off308" type="offenceSubcategory" value="theftFromPlace"/> stealing eight guineas, one half guinea, and one quarter guinea, the property of
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<persName id="t17690510-51-person538"> William Figg
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<persName id="t17690510-51-person539"> John Lothian
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<interp inst="t17690510-51-person539" type="gender" value="male"/> </persName> . I came out of Cumberland, and I lodged in the house of
<persName id="t17690510-51-person540"> William Figg
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<interp inst="t17690510-51-person540" type="gender" value="male"/> </persName> , on the 8th of May, being the
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<join result="offencePlace" targOrder="Y" targets="t17690510-51-off308 t17690510-51-crimeloc310"/>. I went to-bed about ten o'clock; the prisoner, who is a
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<join result="persNameOccupation" targOrder="Y" targets="t17690510-51-defend535 t17690510-51-deflabel311"/>, had lodged in the same room, one or two nights, and was to lie there that night. Some time after I had been in bed, I fell asleep, and awaked about five. I had put my breeches under my head at going to-bed; but when I awaked, I found them lying on my pillow. I felt in my pocket, and found there were no money in it. I had eight guineas, one half guinea, and a quarter guinea in my pocket, when I went to-bed. I sent a man out to know if he could hear of the prisoner, having a suspicion of him; he was taken up: The quarter guinea of mine I had taken in Smithfield in change for a nine shilling piece, where I paid it away. I had it returned for not good. There was a white spot like silver on the chin and upper lip. We found the prisoner had changed one with Mr. Eaton. I went to him, he laid down two. I took up one, and said, This is mine. There were five guineas, two half guineas, and two shillings and six-pence found upon the prisoner. By enquiring, I found he had spent two pounds at a house in White-hart-yard.</p>
<persName id="t17690510-51-person541"> William Figg
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<interp inst="t17690510-51-person541" type="gender" value="male"/> </persName> . The prisoner had no money that night, about ten o'clock at night, to pay for a pot of beer he had called for; he lodged in my house: he went up stairs about eleven to go to-bed, and was above about a quarter of an hour with a candle; he put the candle out above, and left it in the room by the prosecutor's bed-head. I saw him when he came down; and my mother asked him why he came down again; he said he was a-dry, and wanted more beer. Then he went out at the door, came in again, and had got some money, and paid me a shilling for his lodging; he also paid for a pot of beer that he and another had in the evening. I changed him a shilling, when he paid for the beer. He said he should not lie in my house, but should use my house as usual. (He had quarrelled with a young man, when he came down stairs.) Then he went out again, which was about twelve at night. I never saw him after till before Sir
<persName id="t17690510-51-person542"> John Fielding
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<interp inst="t17690510-51-person542" type="gender" value="male"/> </persName> . The prosecutor came down about six in the morning, and said he had lost his money. I am very sure there was nobody up stairs where the prosecutor lay, after he went to-bed, but the prisoner.</p>
<p>Q. How do you know he left the candle in the room?</p>
<p>Figg. My mother said to him, after he came down, Why do not you go up stairs? You have left the candle. He answered her, he had put it out.</p>
<persName id="t17690510-51-person543"> Thomas Eaton
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<interp inst="t17690510-51-person543" type="gender" value="male"/> </persName> . I live at the Bull Head, St. Martin's-Lane. The prisoner came to my house about half an hour after eleven o'clock that Monday night, the 8th of May. I said when I let him in, Creamer, it is time for you to go home; I am going to bed. He said he was very dry, and must have something to drink. He asked for a pint of wine; I said I had none. Said he I must have something. I asked him whether he would have rum, brandy, or shrub: I told him he had better have shrub. Said he, Fill me a quartern. Then he said, Let me have
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="176905100043"/> half a pint; he had it, and carried it into the tap-room, and gave it to other people. He wanted change for a five-and-three-pence. I gave him change for one. I had another five-and-three-pence in my pocket before, so I cannot tell which he gave me. He went away as soon as the liquor was drank. I saw no more of him till he was before Sir
<persName id="t17690510-51-person544"> John Fielding
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<interp inst="t17690510-51-person544" type="gender" value="male"/> </persName> . The prosecutor came the next day, and showed me the two five-and-three-pences. He took one of them up, and said that was his. He brought another person with him, who picked that from the other. (The five-and-three-pence produced in Court.)</p>
<p>Prosecutor. I believe this to be mine.</p>
<p>Thomas Street. I was in Sir John Fielding's office when the prisoner was brought in. The prosecutor said he had lost a quantity of money. I was ordered to search the prisoner. I did, and found five guineas and two half guineas upon him.</p>
<persName id="t17690510-51-person545"> Samuel Bedford
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<interp inst="t17690510-51-person545" type="gender" value="male"/> </persName> . I am a watchman. I saw the prisoner tossing up for liquor about two o'clock on the Tuesday morning by the Coach and Horses by Temple Bar. I saw him pull gold out of his pocket.</p>
<persName id="t17690510-51-person546"> John Eagle
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<interp inst="t17690510-51-person546" type="gender" value="male"/> </persName> . The prosecutor came to the watch-house about three o'clock on the Tuesday morning, and enquired after the prisoner: we searched about, and found him by the Butcher-Row, Temple-Bar, where we took him about three o'clock in the morning on the Wednesday.</p>
<p>Prisoner's Defence.</p>
<p>I was at Lime-house on the Sunday, and received half a guinea. I changed it at a public-house, and there I took that five-and-three-penny piece. I always paid my way. I worked constant, and never was idle. I came home on the Sunday evening, and on the Monday night I had money in my pocket to furnish a room, as my wife was coming out of place. I have not been married long. A man swore he would kill me, and he took and threw me into the dirt. I went to Mr. Eaton's, and asked for something that was good. I found myself in liquor. I was loth to pull out my money there. I have hardly been idle for five months, except on a Monday. I am a taylor by trade.</p>
<persName id="t17690510-51-person547"> Mary Newman
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<interp inst="t17690510-51-person547" type="gender" value="female"/> </persName> . I have known the prisoner two years. I never heard a bad character of him. I believe him to be a very honest, industrious young fellow.</p>
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