6th March 1899
Reference Numbert18990306-229
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > penal servitude

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229. JOHN STACK (32) , Feloniously wounding Emily Young with intent to murder her. Second count, with intent to do her grevious bodily harm.


EMILY YOUNG . I was in the Islington Workhouse just before last February—I went in there about four months ago—I left, I think on January 30th—I had my three children with me—Fanny Donaldson left the workhouse with me—I met the prisoner there—I got this letter, from him (This stated that he was broken-hearted and did not seem to care what became of him, and that he had a good mind to do avoay with himself. and asking the witness whai she was going to do, and where he could meet her.) I got a number of letters from him—when I left the workhouse I met him—I had told him I would see him, but I did not think he would wait for me—shortly afterwards I sent my three children back to the workhouse with a note, and they were taken in—then I went off with the prisoner and Fanny Donaldson—we went into a public-house in Homsey Road, and to a number of public-houses—we went into the Swan in the Caledonian Road—there was a row between two men, I tried to get one of them away, and I was turned out—I think that was about 8 p.m.—I had left the workhouse about 9 a.m.—we had spent the whole day drinking at various public-houses—Jack Stack was with me in the Swan—he was drunk, and I was very nigh as bad—when we left the Swan we went to where my brother lives in Wynford Road, about five minutes walk from the Swan—I was going there to get a cup of coffee before I went back to the Union—I said to Stack, "You stay here"—he said, "No, where you go I go," and I did not go—I stood with him at the corner of Rodney Street, and I sent Eliza Webster to my brother instead of going myself—when she had gone I remember Stack putting his arm round my neck, and saying "Emma, your handkerchief is coming undone"—I saw him with something which looked like a knife, and I felt something come across my throat—I felt blood pouring through me, and I said, "You are trying to murder me"—he said, "Yes, that will be all right in a minute, Emma"—I do not remember anything after that till I found myself in the hospital—I have na doubt that it was the prisoner who did it.

ELIZA WEBSTER . I am fourteen and live at 166, Caledonian Road—on a Monday night in January I saw Mrs. Young coming out of the Swan—the prisoner was with her—she told him six times to go away, but he said no—I was sent by Mrs. Young to go and fetch her mother—I left her at the corner of Wynford Road—I went back and saw the prisoner draw a razor across Mrs. Young's throat—then he ran away up Muriel Street—Mrs. Young's throat was bleeding—she got hold of my finger and told me to scream—a man came up and blew a whistle—the police came up and Mrs. Young was taken to the hospital—I afterwards saw the prisoner at the station with nine or ten other men, and I picked him out.

Cross-examined by the Prisoner. I saw you making a fuss over Emily first—I gave a description—I said a tall, thin man, dressed in labourers' attire.

EMILY JONES . I do not know Emily Young—I saw her on this night in a gateway at the comer of Muriel Street—I heard screams and I saw

the prisoner running towards the canal—Emily Young's throat was cut and bleeding—I screamed and somebody blew a whistle—the police came and took her away in a cab—on the Wednesday I saw the prisoner at 'the police-station among other men and picked him out.

Cross-examined. I was with Emma Bartlett, I was going into her house opposite—you ran past me—my friend did not see your face, but I did—I picked you out about 12 o'clock—I did not see you at the Polioe-court.

JOSEPH AUSTIN (224 G) On January 30th I was in my house at 70, Muriel Street—I heard some screams—I went out and saw Mrs. Young leaning against the garden rails outside No. 64—her throat was cut and bleeding—I blew my whistle and a constable came up—we put her into a cab and she was taken to the Royal Free Hospital—when she had gone I searched the footway where she had been standing and found this razor (Produced)—it was open and with this piece broken off—it was slightly smeared with blood—not far from the razor I saw a large pod of blood where she had been standing.

JOSEPH MILLS . I am an engineer's labourer—I am at Islington Workhouse—I have known the prisoner about four or five years—he was at one time a fellow inmate at the workhouse—last December he gave me three razors in a case to take care of for him—I remember once giving him a little piece of copper—he said he wanted it—I did not know what for—I afterwards gave him back his razors—I gave him the copper before I returned the razors—he showed me one of the razors with the copper on the end of it—this is the razor I minded for him and which I returned to him.

Cross-examined. You were working in the engineer's shop when I gave you the bit of copper—I had the razors about three weeks.

ALFRED NICHOLLS (Detective Y). On January 31st, about 9.30, I went to Islington Workhouse with Detective Eason—I saw the prisoner—I told him we were police officers and were making enquiries about a woman named Young who had left the workhouse on the 30th and who had been found with her throat cut near Caledonian Road the same evening—he said, "Yes;"—I said, "I believe you left this work-house together yesterday morning"—he said "We did not leave together, I met her outside"—I noticed he had some scratches on his face and asked him how he accounted for them—he said "I had a fight with a man named Desborough outside the Queen in Hornsey Road; he left the workhouse with me. Mrs. Young was with me when I had the fight. Desborough went away with Curley Jones and me, and the woman Young went to several public-houses; I was with her till 8 o'clock that night, we were in the public-house just over the canal bridge in Caledonian Road on the right hand side going towards King's Cross. Two men were having a row there; one was the man who gave her away when she was married. I went out and that is the last I saw of her; I then went back to Islington, and got here about half-past eleven"—I asked him where his clothes were, and he took me to the; receiving ward where he showed me the clothes he had been wearing—they were shown to the doctor—there were what appeared to be marks of blood on the trousers, and the coat was very muddy—I asked him how he accounted for the

marks, and he said he got them in the fight with Desborough—he also-handed me this cloth case containing two razors, a pair of scissors, a piece-of slate, a shaving-brush and a comb—he said he had got three razors, but-one was missing, he had lost it in the house, as he had done the hair-cutting and shaving, for some of the inmates—he said he had a pocket knife, but I could not find that—I told him I was not satisfied with his statement, and should arrest him on suspicion of attempting to murder the woman by cutting her throat—I took him to the Holloway Station—he said, "I know nothing' about it."

GEORGE GODLEY (Police Sergeant, G) About 10.30 a.m. on January 31st the prisoner was brought to the Upper Holloway Police-station—I told him I was a police officer, and that a woman named Emily Young had been found in Muriel Street, Caledonian Road, with her throat cut—he said, "I first knew her last October; I was with her last night. She was turned out of a public-house. I left her and went into the Pentonville Road, and went home"—I told him he answered the description of the man wanted, and I should take him to King's Cross Police-station—I took him there, and at 3 p.m. the same day he was placed among other men, and picked out by Eliza Webster—then I charged him with attempting to murder Emily Young—he made no reply.

Cross-examined. The description I had was not of a tall man.

JOHN ALEXANDER MILLBR . I am divisional surgeon of police practising at Percy House, Percy Circus, and at King's Cross Police-station—I examined the prisoner about three o'clock on January 31st—I found two slight scratches on his right cheek, another scratch over his right-eye, and another close to his righ ear on the neck, and also a slight wound on the second finger of his left hand, caused, I should say, by finger nails—blood would only flow from them very slightly—I was handed some clothing—I found some blood on the left trousers leg about the size of a penny, also two patches on the right trousers leg—it would not flow in that quantity from his wounds—it would from a woman's throat.

THOMAS PERCY LEGG . I am house surgeon at the Royal Free Hospital—the prosecutrix was brought in there suffering from a wound right across her throat, about two inches deep—it was very dangerous—for a time her life was in danger—she was in the hospital about three weeks—she is going on well now.

Prisoner's defence. "I have no recollection when, where, or how this occurred, and I am very sorry. I loved the girl too much to do her any injury. I have no doubt that I am guilty of it, but I have no recollection of it."

GUILTY on the Second count. He had been convicted of robbery with violence on July 25th, 1893.— Three Years' Penal Servitude.

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