19th November 1883
Reference Numbert18831119-13
VerdictGuilty > unknown
SentenceImprisonment > hard labour

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13. JOHN DOREN (67) , Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.

MESSRS. LLOYD and HICKS Prosecuted.

ELIZA JORDAN . I am barmaid to Mrs. Gould, who keeps the George the Fourth, Clerkenwell—on 8th October, about 3.30, I served the prisoner with a pint of ale—he tendered a shilling; I put it to my teeth and found it was gritty—I said "This is a bad one;" he said "I can't afford to lose it, I am a poor man, I got it in the morning in the City, and if you will give it back to me I will get it changed"—I gave it back to him, and he went out—my teeth marks were left on it, I disfigured it; he did not pay me—on Thursday, Oct. 11, about 11.30, I saw him looking in at the door; he came in and asked for half a pint of ale and a pennyworth of tobacco and tendered a shilling—I put it to my teeth, found it was gritty, and took it to my master—the prisoner was given into custody with the shilling.

THOMAS RANDLE (Detective G). I was called and found the prisoner in front of the bar—the last witness said that he had tendered a bad shilling, and another on Monday—he made no reply—the tobacco and beer were on the counter; he begged to be allowed to have the tobacco as he had none about him—he had an empty pipe in his hand—I found on him three packets of tobacco, a tobacco-box full, and a tobacco-pouch full—I asked where he lived; he said "Nowhere."

WILLIAM WEBSTER . This shilling is bad—a bad shilling sounds gritty when bitten; the sound is conducted from the teeth to the ear—a good

shilling would bend a little between the teeth, but it would not have that sound, and a bad one would be a good deal lighter.

GUILTY .— Eight Months' Hard Labour.

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