The Proceedings of the Old Bailey

 

413.   GEORGE BERRY alias RICKARD BURKE , alias WINSLOW alias WALLACE (35),   JOSEPH THEOBALD CASEY (23), and   HENRY SHAW alias MULLIDY (26), were indicted for that they, together with divers other persons unknown, did feloniously, wickedly, and unlawfully compass, devise, and intend to depose Our Lady the   Queen from the style, honor, and royal name of the Imperial Crown of the United Kingdom, and that they did manifest such intention by certain overt acts set out in the indictment. In other counts, the overt acts were alleged to have taken place in Ireland, and in the county of Warwick, from which county the case was removed to this Court, under 19th and 20th Vic. cap. 16.

  MR. ATTORNEY-GENERAL, MR. SOLICITOR-GENERAL , MR H. S. GIFFARD,

MR. Poland, and MR. ARCHIBALD conducted the Prosecution; MR. JONHS with MR. MCDONALD appeared for Burke, MR. F. H. LEWIS for Casey, and MR. PATER for shaw.

  MR. ERNEST JONES , on Behalf of Burke, applied to the Court for a jury de medictate linguce, upon a suggestion that he was an alien. The ATTORNEY GENERAL submitted that the mere suggestion of his brig an alien was not sufficient, without the further statement that he was not a natural born subject of Her Majesty, and called the attention of the Court to the recent case of the Queen v. Warren, tried in Dublin, in support of his view. MR. BARON BRAMWELL (after hearing MR. JONES) received the suggestion, but on the footing that it meant he was not a natural born subject. the ATTORNEY GENERAL. having traversed the suggestion, the Jury were sworn to try the issue. MR. JONES, in support of his suggestion, put in a Passport, and called MR. DE TRACEY

GOULD, a member of the American bar, with a view of showing that such a Passport was only granted to natural born citizens of the United States. The ATTORNEY GENERAL objected to the evidence, and MR. BARON BRAMWELL was clearly of opinion that it was not receivable; the Jury therefore found that the prisoner was not an alien, and the case proceeded before the ordinary Jury.

  JAMES THOMPSON . I am an inspector of the detective police—on the night of 27th December last I went to Clarendon Street, St. Pancras—John Devany was with me—we saw Burke and Casey, and followed, them—Devany made a communication to me—I then got the assistance of a constable in uniform (E 33)—Devany then left me—I and the stopped Burke and Casey in Woburn Square—I tapped Burke on the shoulder, and said, "I am Inspector Thompson, of the detective police, and hold a warrant for the apprehension of Rickard Burke for a serious offence; I have reason to believe you are the person, and you must therefore consider yourself a prisoner, and accompany me to the nearest police-station"—he said, "I am not the man at all. I don't know what you mean"—I said, "Then tell me who and what you are"—he said, "I am George Bowrie, a medical student, just arrived from Hamburg"—I said, "Well, whether Burke or Bowrie you must come with me to the station"—he demanded to see my warrant—I said he would see it at the, proper time and place, and he refused to go with me—the constable took hold on one side and I on the other—I told him I should compel him to go with me, and we commenced to pull and drag him—he resisted and struggled—Casey interfered, and struck me several blows—after that Burke became quiet, and we walked on to the end of Russell Square—there he suddenly stopped, and said, "I demand to see your warrant"—I said, "I will show it by-and-bye"—on that he said, "Come, let me go"—I answered, "No"—the then made a sudden effort and wrenched himself out of my grasp, threw the constable off on the other side, and made off—I started in pursuit, when Casey came up and struck me several blows, and tried to prevent me going after him—I pushed him on one side and went after Burke, who had only gone a short distance—I pulled out my revolver, and said, "By God, Burke, if you don't stop I will fire on you"—he said, "Don't do anything desperate"—we then took hold of him again—I called on the bystanders to assist me, but they did not seem disposed to assist me or the prisoners—I got Burke into a cab—Casey wanted to get in—we prevented him, and got away—we went to Bow Street polioe-Station—Casey followed in another cab—I placed Burke in the inspector's room, and charged him with treason-felony—I sent for Deniay—he came into the room, and I asked him if he knew anyone in the room—he pointed to the prisoner, and said, "That is Rickard Burke"—I then proceeded to search Burke—he said, "You may rest assured you will find no treasonable documents on me"—I searched him, and found various little things on him, and some money—I asked him what name I was to put on the list—he said George Berry—I told him he gave the name Bowrie at first—he said, "That must be a mistake"—and he spelled Berry—he said he was a medical student and had recently come from Hamburg—I asked him for his address—he said he could not tell me where it was, but if I would go out with him he would show me; that it was at an hotel somewhere in the, neighbourhood of Regent Street—Casey had come to the station with Burke, and I directed that he should not be allowed to leave—he said his name was Joseph Theobald Casey, he had been assistant station-master at Gleethorpe, Lincolnshire, in the employment of the Great Northern Railway Company, and

had recently come to town—I believe he said he had been lodging at different lodging houses—he would not give me any positive address—I think he said he had been staying with Burke.

Cross-examined by MR. ERNEST JONES. Q. When you searched Burke I presume you took everything ho had from him. A. I did, and all has since been in the possession of the police—Devany did not leave by my instructions—I missed him—I was slightly surprised at it—I had not at that time a warrant in my pocket for the arrest of Burke.

Cross-examined by MR. F. H. LEWIS. Q. Casey did not commence to strike until you pushed and dragged Burke? A. Yes, when I took hold of him and was about to force him on, Caseyinterfered—there was scarcely anyone there then; persons came up afterwards—I did not know anything about Casey then—he followed us to the station of his own accord—I cannot saw whether ho was or not charged with treason felony until Mr. Kynoch was him—I believe it was at Bow Street station that Casey told me he had been staying with Burke, or that he had been with him—I am speaking from memory—I gave evidence at Bow Street—I was under the impression that he meant that he was staying at the same place with Burke—he said that his name was Joseph Theobald Casey—I have made inquiries and find that correct, and that he was a porter in the service of the Great Northern Railway, at Gleethorpe in Linconshire—I found that correct, that he had come up to town on the previous Saturday, and I found that he left the service of the Great Northern Railway Company on the previous Saturday—I have not ascertained that for a long time before December, 1865, he was in the service of Pickford and Co.—I made every possible inquiry to find where he was in 1865 but have not discovered that, or that after he came to London he was stopping with his mother at 28, Rupert Street; he might have been their.

MR. SOLICITOR-GENERAL. Q. Did you make a statement at Bow Street, as to what he said about that? A. Yes. he said, "Casey did not give me any address"—(Reading hit deposition.)

MR. LEWIS. Q. Did you say "He said 'I have been living with my friend' meaning Burke?" A. "Living with my friend" and pointing to the next room where Burke was; it was not "Living with my friends"—I do not know where Burke lived—I have made inquiry and cannot find out.

COURT. Q. You say that he said "I have been living with my friend," and that he pointed, did it happen that he pointed towards Rupert Street? A. No, Rupert Street is more to the left—he did not point in the direction of Rupert Street—Burke and Casey came together to the street when I was waiting for them, they were-conversing together and went away together, conversing the whole time.

  BENJAMIN FORDHAM (Policeman E 33). On the evening of 20th November, I was on duty in Tavistock Square, in uniform—Inspector Thompson came up to me, and I accompanied him to Woburn Square, where I saw Burke and Casey walking side by side—Thompson touched Burke on the shoulder and told him he held a warrant for his arrest, and said, "I must take you in custody, you must consider yourself my prisoner"—Casey was by, and near enough to hear—Burke said "You have made a mistake, I am not the person at all, my name is George Bowrie, I am a medical student just arrived from Hamburgh"—Thompson said "Whether you are Burke you must go along with us"—we both took hold of him, and after some resistance took him to the station in a cab, and ho was looked up—I afterwards saw Casey at the station he was detained and locked up also—Thompson

was in plain clothes—when Burke was taken, Casey asked us what we meant by taking his friend in that manner—Casey resisted and tried to get Burke away from us, he struck me in the breast, and struck Thompson as well, I believe—I was obliged to draw my truncheon.

  JOHN JOSEPH CORYDON . I am twenty-six years of age—I was formerly in the Federal army of the United States, first as a private, and afterwards as a lieutenant—I was in the Federal army in 1862, and knew the prisoner Burke at that time—he was a sergeant in the Federal army, and then became lieutenant and captain in the 15th New York Engineers—I became a Fenian in 1862—I took an oath; it was to overthrow the British Government in Ireland, and to establish a republic in its stead—I remained a Fenian until 1866, and attended several Fenian meetings—I saw Burke at a meeting at the head-quarters of the leaders of the Fenian organization—that meeting was held in Douane Street, New York—John O'Mahony, Colonel Roberts, the vice-president, and several of the leading members of the Fenian organisation were there—O'Mahony was at the head of the Fenian organization in America—there were none but leaders there—I left for Ireland after the meeting in 1865—military men were sent to Ireland to command the Irish people in the event of a rising—Burke took part in that conversation, and agreed to that—I landed in Ireland in August, 1865—I saw, in Ireland, Colonel Thomas Kelly—I knew him Intimately—he was a leading man next to Stephens, in Ireland—I saw Stephens in South Ann Street, Dublin—I brought him some despatches from O'Mahony—Stephens was at the head of the Fenian organization in Ireland—he was in prison for a time while I was in Ireland—after he was in prison, I was sent from Ireland to America with despatches from Colonel Kelly to O'Mahohy—Colonel Kelly was in command of the organization in Ireland after Stephens was in prison—I took the despatches to America, and delivered them to O'Mahony—I did not see Burke in America at that time—I passed on two occasions between America and Ireland; once was after the convesation I have spoken of—I was in Ireland in February, 1866—the Habeas Corpus was then suspended there—I was there when it was suspended; it was aftercoming from America the last time—on its being suspended; it Captain Beecher, whose proper name is O'Rourke, ordered me to leave Ireland and go to Liverpool as paymaster of the organization, and I went to Liverpool in Company with other American officers—when I was in Liverpool, Fenian meetings of those officers were held in several places—I saw Burke in Liverpool from April or May, 1866, down to October or November for weeks at a time, but sometimes not for four, five, or six weeks—I did not go to America during 1866—Burke attended Fenian meetings at Liverpool, at which plans were discussed and circles formed for the benefit of the organization—it was part of the organization that circles should be formed, the different members of the Fenian Brotherhood heading the different circles—circles were formed in America and Liverpool—I belonged to the military circle from America—Burke did not belong to a circle in Liverpool; he was an American officer like myself, just a I was—circle were formed in Liverpool,—with the exception of those for American officers—I belonged to the military circle formed in liverpool—the centre of a circle who has men enough to form a regiment can do so; if it is not large enough for that, he is caption of the company; and if it is not large enough for that, he becomes captain of that circle—no other—arrangements were made or discussed in Liverpool during 1866; we

paid money, and that was about all, with the exception of receiving money from the organization sometimes—Burke was present at those discussions, but he was told off for the buying of arms, he and Shaw, or Mullidy—I saw them in Liverpool during 1866—I knew him as Harry Mullidy, he was very often at the Fenian meetings, he is the same person as Mullidy—I heard from Mullidy that he was with Burke, buying arms, but no directions were given to him in my presence—I saw both Burke and Mullidy in Liverpool—after coming from America Burke was sent home from James Stephens to see the American officers in Liverpool—Stephens was then in Paris; he and the American officer often came from America—Mullidy told me that Burke came from America in company with nine others—Fenian meetings were held in Liverpool in the early part of January and February, 1867, at which Burke and Mullidy were both present—the first time I saw Burke in 1867 was this meeting I was telling you of, when he came from Stephens to the Directory which was formed in London—all the American officers were present—Beecher, Captain Dohany, Major Penn, two Captain O'Brien's, Lieutenant Joyce, and about twenty in all—Burke represented himself as sent by Stephens to know whether the American officers in Liverpool were satisfied with the steps taken by the Directory in London to take the power out of his hands; whether they would be satisfied in throwing him overboard for this Directory, as it was a self-constituted affair—something was said about planning the attack on Chester Castle—it was talked of at this meeting, but not finally settled—I attended another meeting, at which it was finally settled—Captain McCafferty, John Flood, the head organizer for England after Stephens left, Major Quin, Mullidy, two centres from Liverpool, and all the American officer of the American Army then in Liverpool, as nearly as I can tell, were present—Burke and Mullidy had been present at the previous meetings, but only Mullidy was present when it was finally decided—it was arranged that men should go from Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, and other large towns to Chester, and obey the orders of their centres—in all there were to be 2, 500 men—Chester Castle was to be attacked, the arms were to be taken out, the mail train was to be seized, and the wires and rails to be torn—this train was to proceed to Holyhead with the arms, and the mail boat at Holyhead was to be seized and the arms put in it, and they were to make the captain of that ship land them where they liked in Ireland—Captain McCafferty was sent by the Directory to command—they were going to have arising or a fight in Ireland and Liverpool, and all the other large towns, as soon as the rising took place in Ireland, were to be burnt by Greek fire—the night of 11th February was fixed for the attack on Chester Castle—the last meeting was about three nights before 11th February—I was at Birkenhead and Liverpool on 11th February—I saw a lot of the men whom I knew to be Fenians go and take the train at Birkenhead for Chester—I had given information to the Government in September, 1866—I went to Birkenhead on 11th February, but did not go to Chester—I knew a man named Lawrence at Liverpool, from April to the summer of 1866; he is since dead—he was a Fenian, and I saw him at Fenian meetings—I have seen him in company with Burke and Mullidy at Liverpool—I had tea with Mullidy sometimes in Salisbury Street, where he lodged with a Mrs. Blackmore—he lodged there with four or five others, all Fenians—Thomas Farrell, who was at one time head centre at Liverpool, Harry Burn, John Lennon, and William Pentony—Farrell went to America, and so did Mullidy after

the seizure of some Greek fire—Farrell went first—I saw McCafferty, who was to command at Chester, convicted in Dublin—I did not see him on 11th February—I received orders about six days after 11th February, to go to the Zoological Gardens at Liverpool, and was there told to go to Ireland, and remain there until we received farther orders as to the rising that was to take place—I saw Mullidy get 30s., the same as I received; he was to go to Drogheda—all the Americans who were there got orders, and were sent to different districts in the country, to wait till they got final instructions—I went by myself.

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES. Did you know Burke until you were in New York? A. I knew him in the Army—I cannot say when he got his commission—I saw him in an officer's uniform—his colonel, was John Macleod Murphy—I do not know whether Burke had been to South America a good deal; I never heard him speak of having been to Chili—he never told me what he was before he entered the Army—the Directory that was to supersede Stephens was commenced to be formed in the latter end of 1866 and at the beginning of 1867, it was nearly finished—I was not in London; I only heard it from our messengers whom we send to bring us news—I first saw Burke, in Liverpooly in Aptil or May, 1866; I have no doubt of that was in January 1867, Burke told me he was sent by Stephens about the formation of the Directory—I first saw Mullidy in April, 1866—Lawrence was never a prisoner—I mentioned his name before the Magistrate, but do not remember whether it was at the second examination—4 should think I had been examined three or four times before—I also said that Borke received money in the summer of 1866, for the purchase of arms in Sheffield; I have not the date—l received payment at the same time, sometimes more and sometimes less; sometimes 5l., and sometimes 2l.—I saw Burke receive money for the storage of arms; 1 do not know how much; there might be a 50l. note and there might be a 5l.—I saw there were notes—my name is John Joseph—I was christened at Bally lough—my name is not Jeremiah—I was never in Manchester till. I went on Fenian business—I am half and half, between Protestant and Roman Catholic—my father was e Protestaat, and my mother a Roman Catholic—what am I? I am a Christian—I do not know Mr. Daniel Lee—l was not taken care of by him—I am on my oath, and I tell you positively I was not—the mother of that Jeremiah Corydon came up as far as Scotland Yard, and inquired for me, and I went to see her—she said that her son, ten years ago, married a widow; but I am not that Jeremiah Corydon—I have never been in London before these Fenian trials—I joined the Federals—I was in the volunteers during the war they were paid off just according to, the same principle as the regulars, they got the same amount—I have given, evidence so many times on Fenian trials that I cannot count them; the first was against Colonel Tom Burke; that was about a year ago—I have had nothing for it yet, only my maintenance—I got my board and clothing, but never onepenny of money for the trial—I cannot say what the next case was, there were twenty or thirty—the next was not Captain Morimrty, he was tried in Kerry—it was not McCafferty—I was in, O'Dell and Mahoney's case—I was not a witness against Welsh, at Limerick—Pugh, Burke aid Daran were the firs—think Halpin was another, and Marlish another, and I cannot say how many more—O'Dell and O'Mahoney were acquitted—I swore on O'Dell's trial that he swore me in as a Fenian—he was, I believe, acquitted—I saw him on the tender going, to America, when I arrsted General

Halpin—I got no money at the trial of Burke and Doran—I did not give information first of all for money—they were tried in April or May, 1867—I did not swear on that trial that I received 50l. as soon as I gave the information; I was asked if I received any money before those trials, and I said that I did, but not for any one trial or other: all I got was my board and clothing and protection—I emphatically deny swearing that I received 50l. when I gave the information, and I as emphatically swear that I have received no money whatever up to this time, except for the necessaries of life: enough to give me plenty to eat and drink—I have certainly not received 500l., I cannot say as to 250l.—I expect to be well remunerated for my services—I have done the country a great deal of good, and you know it as well as I do—I expect some thousands of pounds, not from this country but from Ireland—it was about the middle of September that I first gave the information with regard to Liverpool—I am sure it was September, but am not surer of the date—I told the authorities just enough to let them know that there was a thing going on called Fenianism, for them to be prepared for any attack that might be made—what was the use of arresting people in Liverpool, I could not take them over, there was no Habeas Corpus—I did not tell them of every fool of a man who was a Fenian: I told them about the generals—I told them about the Greek fire: I intimated so much to the authorities, and they seized upon it—I did not tell them the names of the persons holding it, but only where it was stocked—I was not the person who made it—I continued to give information in September, October; November, and December; 1866—I gave the names of a great many of the American officers in Liverpool, and the addresses of many—I told where the public-house was, where the meetings were held, and they broke up the meetings: that was in November and December, 1860—I gave their names the first time I gave information, but the authorities could not have arrested them: they were doing nothing; if the police came in they were playing at dominees, or something else—during that time I received Fenian pay: 1l. a week, and sometimes 3l.—they would have suspected me if I had stopped receiving my pay, and I could not have carried on my game—I was the confidential friend of the leaders, and held the rank of lieutenant: so much so, that Stephens trusted his life in my hands, and left letters which had to be delivered five or six days after he left—I had nothing to do with swearing in men: I was an American—I swore in Fenians in America, but swearing them in here was out of the sphere of my duty—I did not give information to the Liverpool police in writing—I wrote a note to some of them if I wanted to see them about some particular business: that was all the writing I had, the rest was verbal—I cannot say how many Fenians I swore in in the United States—they make a pledge there, they do not swear any, more; but they did in 1861 and up to 1862—I swore them in the on a prayerbook of bible, sometimes one and sometimes the other—I did not swear them in in Liverpool; it was not my business, or tiny American's business—during the time I was giving information I did not stipulate for money—I never received a reward, or spoke about receiving one—New Acorn Street, New York was the head-quarters of the Fenian organization—they were giving no rewards—I never spoke to any man in America about a reward, or I could have got all the rewards.

Cross-examined by MR. PATER. Q. If I understand you rightly, you were several times before the Magistrate at Bow Street? A. Three or four times—I

have not read any newspaper reports for the, last week; I don't as a rule, read the papers—I did not, for reasons, read, the reports in the papers during the time this matter was before the Police Magistrate at Bow Street—the reasons were, thinking that you might be asking me about Bow street now, you or any counsellor—had no curiosity, in the least, to see what was stated in the newspapers—I did not pay much attention to the papers unless it was something about Abyssian affairs, or something of that, kind—I was in Court some days last week, during trial arising out of the Clerkenwell explosion, but not all the days; for three days I may say, and then I was not in court, all day—I generally came at 1, and stopped till 3—I did not know Massey to be a spy—he was acting on one side and the other—I was not sitting beside him—I got to know him the last day of Febuary, 1867—he was a genearal of the Fenian organization—I am positive I saw Mullidy in April; and I asked him to Gibbon's house at the time they went to America—the first time I was here was in April, 1866—I told the gentleman who examined me first that I was at Mrs. Blackmore's, in Salisbury street, where I first met him; but I have stated also that, I have had tea with him at Mrs. Blackmore's, house—I did not say that it was there I first met him—I saw him several times—I met him first at Austin Gibbons'—I did not state that to the Solicitor General, because he did not ask me—i have seen him several times—the information I have given has been volunteered—the solicitor General asked me where I saw him first—I said I saw him at, his lodging, and he saw me at my lodging—the Solicitor General inquired of me whether I met him at any place, and I said "Yes"—I was positive all the time that was in April I first met Mullidy; and I knew him up to the time he went to America—I first saw him in Liverpool, in Austin Gibbons', in Queen Anne Street; that was in April, 1866.

Q. Being positive all the time, will, you tell the jury your reason for having sworn before the Magistrate "I had never, to my knowledge, seen Mullidy before May, 1866?" A. I think you will find it, April or May there—I said so when I was first, examined before the Magistrate—I first knew him in April or May, 1866—a question afterwards arose, and I said perhaps a month before or a month after—my deposition was read over to me before I signed it—I can't say whether it was read over more than once—very likely it was read over three times—the examination before the Magistrate had taken place a week or so, before Mullidy was brought before the Magistrate had taken place a week or so before Mullidy was brought before for a time—I was sent there from Ireland—I came in April, 1866, and was ordered to go back in February, 1867—I stated before the 30s. which I have mentioned to-day as having been received by mullidy—we all received it at the zoological gardens—that was to take us to Ireland until we got more money, and had a rising—if I had not say so I knew I got it—Mullidy and I were on very intimate terms as any two friends maybe, two sworn brothers.

MR. SOLICITOR-GENERL. Q. You have been asked whether you knew Muillidy, do I understand that you knew him well and were intimate with him? A. Yes—I have not the least doubt that he is the man—I was a Fenian and was in America in 1862—I did not swear in my Fenians after that—I did not enter into communication with the government till September, 1866, and then I volunteered myself—I did swindling as I called it, for I was pretty well swindled—I answered the

questions I was asked before the Magistrate—I was examined in the Clerkenwell case as a witness for a short time—that was when I saw Massey—I gave evidence in Ireland against Mc Cafferty, and also against General Halpin—he was a man I had seen in command—he was in command of the Dublin district—that was upon the rising which took place on the 5th March—I have seen General Halpin in Ireland and America—I have seen him at Fenian meetings in America—I saw him at head-quarters, and I knew him to be one of the head council in Dublin—I was present at meetings in America when Burke was there—he was there on every occasion.

  JOHN DEVANY . In the course of 1865 I was in New York, and in that year became a member of the Fenian Brotherhood—the objects of the Brotherhood are to make war against the British Government in Ireland, and to make Ireland a Republic—meetings were held in New York for the purpose of that organization, and money and arms were collected—I saw Rickard Burke at one of them—that was in I865—he had been in the Army and was known as Captain Burke—in the Fenian organization he was a member of the Committee of Safety of Brother Shears' circle, to which I also belonged—I came to this country about the second week in January, 1866—I saw Burke in London last summer—I met him on Hungerford Bridge, but did not speak to him—I think it was August or September—I saw him in America about a year after he returned from Ireland, at a meeting—he then told me he had been in Ireland and in London, and passed himself off as Major Winslow, of the Confederate service, and that he had been "doing the thing" in London—I asked him if there was any chance of success—he said he thought there was every chance of success, for while he had been in Ireland he had seen the men crying because they were not allowed to fight; that the men in Ireland would fight, and because they were not allowed to fight, while he was there he had seen them crying—that conversation was a few months before I came to this country—I came early in 1867, and saw Burke last came—I pointed him out to Thompson at the time of his arrest.

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES. Q. You came to England, I think you say, in the second week in January, 1867? A. About that time—I came from New York—I had not seen Burke for two or three weeks before I left New York, so I concluded that he was there—I did say before the Magistrate, I left Burke in New York, that he went to Ireland about January, 1866, and returned about July—I said that I would not be certain to a month or two as to dates; I remember it was very cold weather—I said before the Magistrate, I left America in January, 1866, but the prisoner Burke remained, but I had not seen him, of course, for a few days—I have been in Corydon's company since I have been before the Magistrate—we are not sleeping together, but I see him once in a while, not every day, but two or three days a week, since I have been before the Magistrate—I read the newspapers, and sometimes read those containing reports of the Fenian trials—I was was in Court for a few minutes last week during the Clerkenwell trials—I was not examined—I was summoned to come—I returned from Ireland in July or August, 1866—I do not know, how much money I have received for the information I have given—it was I suppose, above 200l. on 23rd November, 1867—I do not know how much I have received since, I have not kept an account, it might by 100l. or more, not 200l.—I have not thought yet about how much or how little my reward will be—I did not give the information for the reward—I have been to Paris for

three days, I went to see the Exhibition—I went by myself, with some of the money I got from the Government—I was in the American National Guard, the 15th New York—as soon as I expected I should be called upon to fight I left—I was never accused of felony—I knew John Kellyer, of 50, Norfolk Street, New York—I did not put my hands in his pocket to steal money—I was out with him one night when he was drunk, and I tried to get him home, but he fell into a sewer—I heard that he had said he lost some money, but he dare not accuse me of anything—I have not read a letter from him accusing me; he would accuse me of anything now, I suppose, because he is an ardent Fenian—if he thought I stole the money he knew where to find me—I first gave information in the latter part of 1866—I never received Fenian pay—I have paid myself for hiring a hall and band of music two or three days, and I paid myself—there was a disturbance because it was said that I took too much—I said that I did not—I never saw Burke in Liverpool—I saw Burke on Hunger ford Bridge, about August last, in the afternoon—I cannot tell you the time—it was warm weather.

MR. GIFFARD. Q. When was it that this took place about the gentleman who was drunk? A. A couple of years ago—it was in New York—he and I had been drinking together—I think it was in the summer of 1866, we had been looking at a procession—I remained long enough in New York after that, and he remained also—I heard that he said that I was in his company when he fell down a sewer—he never took me before a Magistrate—he knew where to find me.

COURT. Q. Are you Irish born? A. I was born in the north of Ireland.

  GODFREY MASSEY . I am an Irishman—I went to America in 1856, and joined the Confederate Army, and became a lieutenant-colonel—in 1865 I joined the Fenian Brotherhood—I first saw Stephens in October, 1866, at 19, Cheetham Street, New York—he was chief of the organization—Colonel Kelly was his deputy—I knew Captain Burke first at New York, in October, 1866—I saw him with Stephens and Kelly, sometimes at the central office, 19, Cheetham Street, and sometimes at Stephens's lodgings—I knew McCafferty, General Halpin, Cluseret, and Colonel Burke—they were all Fenian—I have seen all in Burke's company at various times—towards the end of 1866 meetings took place at New York—in December there was a mixed meeting, composed of men who had seen military service and Irish centers—Burke was there, McCafferty, Cluseret, Stephens, Kelly, and others—Stephens stated the number of arms in his possession in New York was not more than 4000, or less than one-seventh of the fixed minimum that he counted upon, viz. 30, 000—that was the smallest amount they would begin with—it was determined there should be a rising in Ireland as soon as the officers could be sent across and provisions got in—a purely military meeting took place a few days after—Burke was present, also all the military officers I have named, and others I don't remember—officers then volunteered their services for the intended rising—Burke volunteered—they were first to go to England, and there wait instructions about the intended rising in Ireland—the time of rising was not named—I left New York on 11th January, 1867—before that Stephens was deposed, it being proved that he was a fraud—I came alone—I had not seen Burke for three weeks previously—I had not seen him going to the vessel, bat I know tickets were procured, I procured some myself—I came from Liverpool to London on my arrival and soon after saw Burke—I asked him to find lodgings—I went and lodged

at 7, Tavistock Street, Tottenham Court Road—Burke took the lodgings, and he lived there with me—I went by the name of Cleburne and Burke went by the name of Wallace—it was about the end of January—Colonel Kelly lived at 5, North Crescent, Chenies Street, and went by the name of Coleman—I saw General Halpin in London; he lodged with Kelly for some time—I don't remember the name he went by; it was something like Freeman—Kelly was then the head of the organization—I gave instructions to various officers from General Cluseret, with money to proceed to Ireland, and amongst others to Burke—I told him to go to Macroom, county Cork, and get into communication with the local organization, and make himself acquainted with the resources of the district—when the order was given for the rising, the railways were to be "tapped," small portions of the telegraphs cut, and the bridges over the military roads destroyed—he was to take charge of all armed men in that section—Burke left the house where we were lodging early in February—I do not knew whether he left London—I was not pay-master in London, although I held the money and distributed it—I had 550l., which Colonel Kelly gave me in New York—I gave Burke about 15l, all told—the other officers got sums varying from 12l. to 30l.—I did not give money to General Halpin—I gave some to Ebsworth, Captain Neeson, Captain Dohany and others, about thirty, I think—there was a meeting at Colonel Kelly's, before I left London on the 10th of February for ublin—the Fenian representatives of the provinces of Ireland were resent—they wore the Directory—they were Harbuison of Belfast, Mahoney of Cork, and Bryne of Dublin—we drew up a paper showing why recourse was had to a rising in Ireland—it was partly addressed to the English people—the date of the rising was not determined on before I left—General Cluseret lodged at 137, Great Portland Street, with General Fariola, a lieutenant-colonel in the American volunteer army—I went to Kingstown and Dublin—I was to mobilise the troops, such as they were, and take charge of them till such time as Cluseret should come over—I received a letter from Burke, which I destroyed—it was from Waterford, asking for more money and ammunition to fit a Colt revolver—I knew Burke as Wallace, and he told me he had borne the name of E. C. Winslow in the districts about Birmingham, where he had been to purchase fire arms for the Brotherhood—he said that he had sent them to Ireland, and that one or two cases had been seized at Queenstown by the police—he said that he had received credit for a short time for several hundred poundt—I think it was about 900l., I am not sure—I returned to London twice from Ireland, and on my second visit, about the 24th or 25th February, for instructions—I expected that the Chester affair would fail, I am not sure whether I knew that it had failed—I said only a part of a day in London—I learned that the rising was to be the 5th of March, at midnight—General Halpin commanded the Dublin district—I was all over the country pretty much, I went to all the principal cities, to have a look at the disposition of the Queen's troops and see what resources the organization had in the way f arms and ammunition—on the night of the 4th of March I left Cork, and was arrested at Limerick Junction two hours after—I remained in custody for some months, and then I turned informr—I was present at General Halpin's trial in Ireland, and also at Colonel Burke's trial, where I was principal witness—Colonel Halpin went by the name of fletcher in London.

Cross-examined by MR. E JONES. Q. Did you know Captain Burke intimately in New York? A. For a short time—I knew nothing of his antecedents—I

could not say whether he had been largely connected with the South American States; I can't say that I know it now—I believe he has spoken to me about Chili and those countries, but I don't know to what extent he was connected with them—I believe he had some connation with them—I never received payment from the Fenian organization myself, and therefore I can't say whether it is the rule that no payment shall be made in the presence of a third party—the money I gave to the officers in London, I did not look upon as payments—I gave money to the officers when several were present—I can't speak to any rule or custom, in the Brotherhood, as to how the money shall be paid—I arrived in New York on 3rd October, from New Orleans—I was absent from New York for some time after that, in December—most of that time I was travelling privately with Stephens through the largest eities in America; Washington, Philadelphia, and others—I am not positive whether Burke was in New York in November, 1866, because I was absent from New York the most of that months, and part or December—he was there when I returned from Washington, in December—I had seen him in New York, I should think, not more than a month before, or perhaps six weeks; it may have been in November—I said, before the Magistrate, that Burke mentioned purchasing rifles and revolvers, in Birmingham, but that he did not mention any other kind of arms; that is my opinion still—he did not mention anything about caps, or powder, or bayonets, that I remember—I said, before the Magistrate, that I did not know what had become of the letter I received from Burke, from, macroom; but I think, I added that I had destroyed it—it is customary with me to destroy every document of a criminal nature—I believe I said I could not give the purport of that letter, that it, was in his writing, and that I did not know whether it was signed "Wallace," "Window," or how—I am not aware that I said, before the Magistrate, that I was certain he said he had got credit for 900l., exactly; I think I said, "If I remember right"—I was once in the Land Transport Corps, in the Crimea—I never passed myself off as "Redan Massey"—I have talked about the Redan, because I have trodden over it; but I never said I was in the attack on it—I was not ordered off to India after that—I returned to Portsmouth, in July or August, 1856, in H.M.S. Britannia, and was there discharged, and I went to Ireland—I did not enter into the service again at Cork, and go on board a ship to convey troops to India—I did not desert from the English army; never—I had no brother in the English service in Canada—since I have turned informer, I have been living upon the money that the authorities have supplied me with—I expect nothing as a reward—I would accept nothing as a reward—I did not turn informer for my own sake—I would not accept anything as a payment—I am entirely in the hands of the Government in that respect—I would entirely refuse anything offered as a reward or payment—I would take it as an aid, inasmuch as my position at the, present, time is almost helpless—I have received nothing from the authorities but as much as supports me—I have been known by the name of Philip Condon; that was my nurse's name—I suppose it is no secret why I did not take the name of Massey; my birth has been pretty well made public.

Cross-examined by MR. PATER. Q. With regard to the proposed plan of attack on Chester Castle, were you present at that meeting? A. The attack at Chester was in direct contradiction to my instructions—I was not present at the meeting; I had nothing at all to do with the chester affair—I did not express my feelings at the meeting—I spoke to Captain McCafferty

about it—I do not know of Corydon having strongly advocated that move meat; I did not hold much communication with him.

  MR. SOLICITOR GENERAL . Q. You have been asked about this reward—are you a married man? A. I am—I have no children—I was married before I came to this country, about a year ago—I first informed a considerable time after I was in prison in Dublin—I had been in no communication whatever with the goal before that, not until I was myself sold, betrayad—I arrived at New York in October, 1866, from New Orleans—I did not arrive with Stephens; my wife came with me—I sent her home to Ireland, and then went with Stephens to several of the large cities—it was generally thought at that time that he was in this country; we travelled incog.

MR. E. JONES. Q. You were betrayed by Corydon, were you not? A. Yes, I gave him money and instructions for American officers in Dublin, and he immediately went to the Castle and gave information.

wednesday, April 29th, 1868.

  AMELIA TYE . I live at Birmingham, and am assistant to Mr. Kynoch, who sells ammunition and small arms—I have seen Burke at Birmingham—the first time was December, 1865; he culled at Mr. Kynoch's, and he first saw me—he wanted to buy some percussion caps—I showed him samples of military caps—he approved them, and I asked him to call next morning and see Mr. Kynoch—I told him what we had in stock—he called next morning and bought two millions of military caps—he went out in the afternoon with Mr. Kynoch to Mr. Hill, the pistol maker, I believe—he bought that evening 250, 000 pistol percussion caps, and I believe forty revolvers, that were in stock—I put them into cases myself—he told me to send them to 64, George Street, and tell the man to ask for Mullidy, I believe to deliver the goods to—the man took them out with delivery book, which was brought back signed—I think it was Shaw who brought a letter once for Mr. Kynoch—I don't think I saw him more than once—some tin-lined eases were brought to Mr. Kynoch's on a cart which had been lying at the station—they were returned empty cases which had been sent from our place—three men brought them back—I have seen Burke at Kynoch's several times; under the name of Winslow—the delivery book produced is the one the man took out (this was signed by Mullidy).

Cross-examined by MR. PATER. Q. You never spoke to the man who called? A. No; it was some time in the forenoon, the busy part of the day, about 11, I should think—it was somewhere at the latter end of December, or beginning of January—I am not at all sure about the time—there was nothing to induce me to notice the circumstance—no one but Mr. Kynoch and myself assisted in the business at that time—I did not see Shaw again till after last Christmas, when he was brought from Dublin—he was then in the station yard at Bow Street—ho was in a row with others—I picked him out.

  GEORGE KYNOCH . I am a cap and ammunition manufacturer in Birmingham—I sell fire arms—I carried on that business in 1865-6, at 45, Littlehampton Street—I have seen Mr. Winslow (Burke) and Mullidy there—I first sew Burke on the 23rd December, 1865—on that day I had received a communication from the last witness—I sold him that day two millions of military percussion caps, and 250, 000 revolver caps—he gave the name of E. C. Winslow, and must have given the address 64, George

Street—I sold the caps by sample—the bulk were lying at the station, Curzon Street, to my order—the amount was 385l—he paid cats—I made out the invoice and gave it to him—I gave him a delivery order on Crowley and Co., the London aid North Western agents, for the caps (order producea)—that is the delivery order I gave Winslow—he after that asked me whether I could supply him with revolvers—I then had fifty revolvers on my premises—I showed him them and he bought them—they were included in the bill for 385l.—I believe they were sent in a cab to 64, George Street—he went with me to Mr. Hill, a pistol maker, in St. Mary's Road—we there inspected some, and I made an arrangement to sell him a certain quantity up to a certain time—I have no doubt I introduced him to Mr. Hill as Winslow—I procured pistols from Hill and other makers, and sold them to Winslow—there are about seven invoices—I sold him 500 rifles and. bayonets, bullet moulds, and implements—the total amount was 1, 970l.—the purchase was between 23rd December, 1865, and the I3th January, 1866—the payments were for cash immediately on the invoices being made out, and before delivery, except on one occasion—I gave him credit for the rifles, 698l.—it was on a Thursday—he said he would not be able to pay for them till the Saturday—after some hesitation, I gave him credit, and he paid, not on the Saturday but on the Sunday—we became on very friendly terms—I saw him every day—I went to see him in Monumeut Lane and in George Street—at George Street there was a plate on the door, "E. C. Winslow, Merchant and Commission Agent"—I saw some of the revolvers there—all the goods were delivered there—believe I saw Casey there he appeared to be a workman—I daresay I saw Mullidy there, but I remember him more particularly being in my office waiting instructions from Winslow—he saw Winslow, and waited while he wrote a note—Mullidy then took that note away—I have several times received letters from Winslow—I have seen him write this letter (prodiced) I received from him (read) "January 29th 1866. Dear sir, I deeply regret that I cannot give you some order, My messenger has returned from London and brought me no definite satisfaction; in feat, I am compelled to go there and attend to matters personally. My health has improved, so that I think I can start soon. I am, however, quite positive on, the subject of continued trade with you. Please present to Mrs. Kymoch my sincere wishes for welfare of herself and little Ellen, and receive the assurance of continued biomass activity, the' postponed, and friendship from yours, very truly, Edward C. Winslow." I also received this letter on the 5th July (read)—"London, July 5th, 1866. Dear sir, I would have written to you ere this but my business here and in Glasgow kept me constantly occupied, added to which I may place an illness of six weeks, during, which I was very low. I hope yourself, lady, and little Ellen are quite well. Please present to Mrs. Kynoch my most sincere wishes for her welfare and happiness. I want from you a full quotation of prices, embracing Enfields, Whitworths, earlines postols, revolvers, kind and quality, and of all the accompanying materials, as I expect to do a fair business with you very soon, and want to be posted. How is Hill? Has he ever got over that interesting difference of opinion which once existed between you? I don' quite forget that pistol you promised by Jove! I must have that when I see you next. I am going down to woolwich, and will be back in three or four days' time. I want you to write by return of post. I will stop at the International Hotel, near the railway station, London bridge, and will expect to find a note from you when I

return. Pardon haste. Kind regards to Mr. Rubery. I am faithfully yours, (signed) E. C. Winslow, ('A man of many apologies.')"—I believe I answered that letter—I afterwards received the following letter—"Liverpool, July 15th, 1866. Sunday. Dear sir, Many thanks for your kind note of the 6th inst., which I received a day or two ago from London, having left there before it arrived at the International Hotel. I am happy to hear of your own personal welfare, and the good health, and happiness of Mrs. Kynoch and 'Kitty.' You must have made a mistake in sending me the enclosed third page of your letter. I hope it caused you no inconvenience, and yet I fear it has; but no fault of mine, I am quite sure. I have some transactions to complete in the northern counties, and a few in Scotland, and then I expect to be up at the 'gem of the midland counties' once more. How are you on for 'breech-loaders,' eh? You, if you want to satisfy the popular demand, must turn them out 'pretty considerably fast, I reckon,' as our friends north of Mason's and Dixon's line say. They and the needle gun are all the rage now; so much for the bitter experience of a seven days' war. Wait till they keep it up for four long blessed years; won't there be a fine field in Germany then for the sale of crape? I think so. Don't you? I have met with some slight losses since, but that is of little import now. I hope to be able to take a good stock off your hands, just if only to keep my promise, and not necessitate another of thy pet manufactures—apologies—you know. Kind regards to Mrs. Kynoch, Mr. Claddo, and Mr. Rubery. Thanks for your kind invitation; trust me, you will see me oftener at Spark Hill, when I again go your way. Good-bye. E. C. Winslow." "What are your lowest figures for Enfield cartridges and plain powder. Those 18s. affairs of Hill's have not sold well by a long shot. I take no more of them, even if he 'throws them in,' a proceeding, I may say, rather out of keeping with his past conduct towards us. I will stay here, probably, one week. If you address Washington, or King's Arms Hotel, it will find me. This is a dull, dirty, disgusting town, a modern Gomorrah, with the din of a thousand Babel's, E. C. W."—"Wash" Hotel, Liverpool, July 17th, 1866. Geo. Kynoch, Esq. My dear sir, Yours of the 16th I just received, and, as I leave in a few minutes for London, I have only time to say a word or two. I don't want any cartridges just now. I asked simply with a desire to be posted in your prices, as I hope soon to do a brisk business with you again. I hope the failure of the Birmingham Banking Company does not in any way inflict injury on you. I am sorry to learn Rubery is going to Yankee land. I think he would do as well here, but he knows the best course, I have no doubt. How does Claddo get along now? Pardon haste. I will be back here in three or four days. Kind regards to all. Believe me, faithfully yours, E. C. Winslow. P.S.—I am very sorry that I cannot do something in these cartridges now; depend upon it I would if could. E, C. W."—This letter alludes to a revolver that I had promised him for his personal use.

MR. SOLICITOR-GENERAL. Q. You say you saw him up to 13th January, did you see him in Birmingham after that? A. I saw him occasionally for some considerable time, possibly for two or there months after the end of three months I am not certain whether I saw him; I had no; more transactions with him in business.

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES. Q. As you were on friendly terms with him, I suppose you had conversation with him about his antecedents at times. A. Yes, frequently—he did not tell me anything about his adventures in Chili—I

don't remember that he ever said he was in Chili—it was at the end of the Peruvian war, and we might have a conversation about Chili, but I cannot say that I particularly remember it—I should say that he did not tell me that he had been some, time in Chili—I have no recollection of his mentioning the South American Republics—after 13th January, 1856, I saw him occasionally every few months—I saw him some time in 1866, I cannot say when it was

Cross-examined by MR. LEWIS. Q. Were you first examined on 3rd Number, last year? A. I don't know—Burke and Casey, were the only two persons under charge, at the time—I do not know whether Casey was in charge for obstructing the police—I saw him in the dock—I professed to, believe, on 3rd November that Casey was, the man who passed under the name of Mullidy—I had a very great doubt about it—I had then seen Mullidy several times—I was examined a second time, after I had seen the man who I call the real Mullidy—I do not remember being re-called on 7th, December—I cannot remember being at Bow Street the, second time, unless I have something (to call it to my, mind—I do not remember the exact dates, I was there, so many times in December—up to the time I saw Shaw, I was still under the impression that Casey was Mullidy; but I always had a doubt—if Shaw had not been taken, I should have been under that doubtful impression now—I have no doubt whatever now that Casey is not Mullidy—I saw him in the Lower Road, and two or three times in George Street—I do not swear positively that I saw Casey, there, but I believe I saw him on, ones occasion; I cannot remember every circumstance—the men were packers—the man was sealing up some boxes—I did, not See that man again that I know of, until Casey, was in custody—that was after an interval of nearly two years.

Cross-examined by MR. PATER. Q. May, I take it that it is the same with regard to the other who you believe is Mullidy? A. I believe not—the same length of time elapsed—I Saw the man who I believe to be Mullidy oftener than once—but I remember one circumstance more particularly; I remember saying, "I, can't remember positively having seen him more than once and that is, what I say now—I remember, on one particular occasion, seeing him and noticing him—the man I believe to be Mullidy was dressed in workman's clothes—this were both working for Winslow; and I noticed Mullidy, on one occaecasion, from the peculiar way in which he jumped up at his orders from Winslow that being so, I do not say that Casey is the man—I said at first he must be one of them—there were there or four pesons, and I said I thought it might be Mullidy; but still I cannot remember everything at once—your memory is freshened up—you Cannot identify persons all at once without thinking.

COURT Q. I wand to see whether I rightly appreciate Your evidence—I you, saw the man at your office who waited for, a letter? A. Yes—I saw the man at the place in Great George Street—I knew Mullidy name—When I first saw Casey, in Court I did not recognize him at all—I afterwards recognized him as, one of the men who had been there, and I said that he might be Mullidy—the circumstance of the letter was not in my mind—my recognition of him was very slight—I recognized him as having seen him with Burke—but after that time I remember the circumstance of wasting for the letter, and I said so before the Magistrate after the first examination—I cannot fix the date when I was under a doubt whether Casey was Mullidy—it was some time after my first examination—it was then I remembered

the waiting for the letter and the colour of the man's hair, and I said it was a red haired man who waited for the letter—I remembered seeing that man in George Street when I first went to Bow Streets—my opinion is still that Casey was one of them, but he was not the one who waited for the letter who I remembered as Mullidy—if I had not seen Shaw I should have continued in doubt—the sight of Shaw confirmed my opinion.

  WILLIAM JAMES HILL . I am a patent pistol maker, of 9, St. Mary's Row, Birmingham—at the end of 1865 I remember Mr. Kynoch bringing Burke and introducing him as Winslow—I showed him pistols and told him the prices—he asked what the difference would be for a large order—I told him, and he purchased the pistols I had in stock—the pistols were to be paid for through Mr. Kynoch—I trusted Mr. Kynoch—I delivered pistols the next week to the amount of £1, 575—he said he had no doubt he could keep me on making for nine, months or a year—I saw Burke from time to time after that on the subject of pistols, which I delivered on different occasions up to the second week in January—I supplied brass bullet moulds to each revolver—on the 26th of January I sold a gilt engraved pistol to Mr. Kyaoch for 5l. 10s.—it was gilt all over—some misunderstanding then arose between me and Mr. Kynoch, and other pistols which I had were undelivered.

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES. Q. I believe during these transactions you heard mention made of South America? A. Yes; but I was not told that the pistols were going there.

  WILLIAM WHITEHILL . I Was engaged with Mr. Kynoch at Birmingham—I have seen Burke there under the name of Winslow two or three times or more—I have also seen Casey two or three times at George Street Parade, Birmingham—I do not remember the number—"Edwin C. Window, Commission Agent," was on the door.

Cross-examined by MR. K. JONES. Q. What time of year was it you saw him at Mr. Kynoch's? A. In January, February, or December, on several occasions—I believe I may have seen him in February, but am not certain—it was not later than that.

Cross-examined by MR. LEWIS. Q. Between what time have you seen Casey? A. The name dates; December, January, and February—I believe it was January or February—I cannot give a date—I said before the Magistrate that I could not swear to Casey—I am positive now—I only saw him momentarily coming out of a cell—I had never been in a court of justice before—I do not think I was examined twice at Bow Street, but I was there when he was committed—we signed no depositions on the last occasion—I said in my depositions, "I think, but I cannot swear I saw Casey"—the party read the evidence I had given, and I signed it when I gave my evidence—I went to the Court again because I had a subpoena.

Q. Would you be surprised to hear that at those dates he was working at Pickford's? A. Well, I do not know—I know the prisoner to be the man—

  WILLIAM DAY . I am a house-agent, at Birmingham—I had the letting of the house, 64, George Street Parade—I let that to Burke—I produce the agreement made on the 19th December, which he signed as E. C. Window agreement made on the 19th December, which he signed as E. C. Winslow—(The agreement was put in and read.)—he said the premises were wanted as a branch house for a mercamtilc firm in New York.—he did not state the busines, but that they had branch house at Manichester, Liverpool, Paris, London, and Glasgow, and the business was carried on between London and New York—the rent was to be paid in advance, as he had not given references—he paid the first quarter—he said he was a stranger in Birmingham,

but he offered to give references in Manchester, Livery of the freight note, sion was given on the 19th—he asked to have a new dooligher—it is usual to get his casks in—that door was made by enlarging an old a?" they say, second quarter's rent was paid, but the third-quarter was not, an saw him after the commencement of the third quarter—he gave nool of any intention to leave—we re-entered in-possession towards the end order year—I found a carboy upstairs, which smelt strongly of petroleum, or something of that kind—there was a door which had bullet, holes in it, and a chalk mark, as if it had been used as a target—before retaking possession I had received this letter—(produced)—I believe that to be in "Window's handwriting—it has no date; but I think I received it in November 1866.

(The later was dated Liverpool, it apologized for not calling to pay the rent and gave his address at the King's Arms Hotel, Liverpool.)

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES. Q. You can't tell whether the carboy may not have been used by the previous occupant? A. I don't think the carboy was on the promises when Winslow took possession, but I can't swear.

  WILLIAM MANTON (Inspector of Birmingham Police). I produce the, zinc plate taken from the door of 64, Great George Street—I went over the premises, and in the cellar, on the 23rd November, I found jars containing some liquid.

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES. Q. Have you seen the same, kind of liquid used for polishing gun stocks? A. I can't say; I did not say so before the Magistrate.

  THOMAS WAKEMAN . I am foreman of the order-shed, Cruzan Street, Birmingham, for goods received by the railway company, the London and North-Waster, to wait for ordered—on 17th December, 1865, I received ten cases of goods, and ten more on the 18th—they were received to Mr. Kynoch's order—on 26th December a gentleman came to me about them, and told me to send them to Liverpool, to Window and Co 's order—he produced an order which I initialed—those cases, were forwarded, accrrding to the order, to Park Lane Station, Liverpool.

MR. KYNOCH (re-examined). I believe this signature is Burke's—I could swear it without any hesitation—(The order was signed "E. C. Winslow," and directed the cases, which weighed 26¾ cwt to be sent to Liverpool).

  WILLIAM MARRIOTT . I am a booker at Park Lane Station, Liverpool—I remember delivering the cases, on the 29th December, to a person who produced the usual freight note—he signed for the receipt of, them in the book which I now produce—a delivery order is sent to our office, and, the freight note is made out—the person coming for the goods brings the freight note—(The delivery order was put in, and identified as being in Burke's handwriting, by GEORGE KYNOCH)—the name signed in the book is "R. Lawrence, December 29"—he was a middle aged, stoutish many and he took away the goods in a cart.

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES. Q. Did you deliver the goods yourself. A. Yes, I am positive of that—I could not positively swear to the man who signed the crane book, I thought Burke was the man; I think so now; the signature is "R. Lawrence."

  WILLIAM AMORY . I am a checker at the Curzon Street Station, Birningham—on 28th December I received nine cases, and the following day eight more cases these are the consignment notes for those goods—Casey, brought the first of these notes to me—it had not got the sender's address on it, so I asked for it from Casey, and wrote it down myself—"George Street

Parade"—GEORGE KNOCK. Both these are in Winslow's, or Burke's handwriting.—These aw both stamped "by sender," that is to distinguish the goods brought by the porters themselves from those brought in by the agents, Pick ford's or Crowley's—those goods were forwarded to Park Lane Station, Liverpool.

Cross-examined by MR. LEWIS. Q. You said nothing about Casey at first before the Magistrate.? A. I was not asked—I don't know whether Speckley was examined before me—I saw Casey for about twenty minutes or half an hour; it was between 12 and 1 in the day—I don't know that I had ever seen him before, and I did not see him again for two years—I do not knew that I should be surprised to hear that Casey was then working at Pick ford's; we hear very strange things sometimes—I would not believe them if six people swore that he was working at that time in another place.

  MR. SOLICITOR GENERAL . Q. Did the goods come in a cart, and, had they to be unloaded? A. Yes; and then weighed—I then lad to make out a paper, and sign it for him—he copied the weights himself at the machine, while they were being weighed—I was there, and saw him there—I had to make out a receipt on receiving the goods—I did that in the office on the ground—he went with me.

COURT. Q. Was Speckley examined before the Magistrate, before or after you? A.—I don't know—I was recalled, and at was then I spoke to Casey—I did not hear Speckley say anything about Casey—it was not in consequence of what I heard him or other people say that I recollected seeing Casey—when I first saw him at the bar I considered he was the man, but not being asked, I said nothing.

  SAMUEL MARRIOTT (re-examined). On 30th December I received nine cases—this delivery order was lodged for them—[GEORGE KYNOCK. This order is Winslow's writing]. (Read.)—l delivered those nine cases, I think, to the man; that signed his name "R. Lawrence;" the same as the others; it was the same man.

  GEORGE SPECKLEY . I am a clerk at Curzon Street Railway Station, Birmingham—in January, 1866, I received this consignment note, with twelve cases, marked us in the note—I placed them in the proper place for forwarding to Waterloo Station, Liverpool.

  GEORGE KYNOCH . (re-examined). This is Wislow's writings (This requested that the twelve cases might be forwarded to waterloo station liverpool, and was signed "E.C. Winslow.")

  JOSEPH BURROWS . I am a clerk at the Waterloo Railway Station, LiverPool—I produce my book, and a delivery order for twelve cases—[GEORGE KYNOCH. This order, is in Winslow's writing. (This was signed by Winslow and crossed "S, C. Hatchett." It requested the delivery of the twelve cases of goods.)—a person applied for a freight note on that delivery, order, and I made it out, and gave it to him—R. Lawrence has signed for it—I don't know him.

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES. Q. Did you not say, before the Magistrate, "Upon the presentation of a delivery note, such as that in my hand, I should ask the applicant upon whose account, and the name. "S. P. Hatchett" appearing would be the name given by applicant?" A. Yes; Lawrence would be the consignee for Hatchett—I mentioned the name of Lawrence before the Magistrate, and signed this book.

  MR. SOLICITOR GENERAL . Q. Was a person examined named Gaghan? A. Yes: I had Gaghan with me—his book was produced when he was being

examined—this is not the same; this is for the delivery of the freight note, and this is for the goods—Hatchett is the supposed consigner—it is usual for me to say, "On whose account are you taking the goods?" they say, "S.P. Hatchett?" and I write that down.

  MATTHEW GAGHAN . I am a booker at the waterloo station, Liverpool—this is my book—on 8th January, 1866, I delivered twelve cases, marked P. & G. H., 1 to 12, to R Lawrence, who signed for them.

  JAMES NORCOTT . I was a checker at the curzon-Street Station Birmingham—on 6th January, 1866, I received this consignment note, and eleven cases, marked S. K. in a diamond 1 to 11, the same as is on the note-they were put for forwarding to the Waterloo Station, Liverpool.

  GEORGE KYNOCH (re-examined). This is Winslow's writing.

  HENRY LEATHER . I am a deliverer at the Waterloo Railway Station, Liverpool—this is my book, and this is a delivery order, signed by Winslow MR. KYNOCH. This is Winslow's writing. (This requested the delivery of eleven cases marked S. R. in a diamond W. 1 to 11to bearer.)-R. Lawrence has signed my book for them.

  THOMAS BARKER . I was a checker at the Curzon Street Station. Birmingham—I received this consignment note on 8th January—[MR. KYNOCH. This is Winslow's writing.] (This was for twelve cases. W. R. B. in a triangle 1 to 12.)—On 11th January I received a consignment note and twelve cases, both of those lots were forwarded from Waterloo to Liverpool.

  JOSEPH BURROWS (re-examined). On 10th January, I made out a fright note upon this delivery order, dated the 9th, for twelve cases, marked W. R. B. [MR. KYNOCH. This is Winslow's writing.] (This was dated 9th January, 1866, signed E.C. Winslow, requesting the delivery to bearer of twelve cases, marked W. R. B. 1 to 12, forwarded yesterday from Birmingham, and stating that the bearer will receipt and pay the freight.)—I gave the freight note to the applicant who has signed R. Lawrence—I ask him the consigner and he says. "S. P. Hatchett," which was the name given to me—I have the crane book, and find in it on 11th January, an entry of twelve cases, marked W. R. B. in a triangle, it is signed "R. Lawrence on account of S. P. Hatchett"—on 15th January, I gave a freight note on that delivery order. [MR. KYNOCH. I believe this is the same writing.] (This was dated Liverpool, January, 12th 1866, requesting the delivery of the twelve cases forwarded form Birmingham, marked O. S. W. 1 to 5, and signed Edwd. C. Winslow)-R. Lawrence has signed for that freight note, it is the same writing as the others-here is an entry on 9th January, of the actual delivery of the goods-they arrived on the 12th and the advice note was applied for on the 15th-advice note is the proper term—the goods were taken away on the 13th, it appears by the book-there were twelve cases with the same mark as I sent from Liverpool on 13th January—the goods could not be delivered without the production of the advice note which was delivered on the 12th to R. Lawrence for S. P. Hatchett-they were taken away on the 12th.

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES. Q. Were you examined on 21st December? A. I am not sure about the date—it was before Christmas-Gaghan, ad Leather, and Marriott were examined the same day, and I heard them give this evidence about Lawrence—I do not know whether Corydon was examined a week after me.

  CHARLES PHILLIPS . I was a ledger clerk at Curzon Street Railway Station—the consignment note is addressed to me, but it was received by

the checking man—I did not see it till I was summoned as a witness.

MR. KYNOCH. This note is Winslow's writing.] (This was signed E.C. Winslow, without dates requesting cases two marked 1to 2, forwarded to park Lane Station, Liverpool.) This has been in the invoice office, Curzon street, but not in the office that I am in.

  JAMES LOCKETT . I am booking-clerk lit the London arid North-Western Station, Park Lane Liverpool—I produce the crane book-cat 29th December; 1865, two cases, marked M. B. in a diamond, were delivered to R. lawrence—I produce the order.

  GEORGE KYNOCH (re-examined). This is Winslow's writing (this was a delivery order, signed Edward C. Winslow, for the cases marked as above, for which the bearer would receipt).

  WILLIAM GREENING . I was in the employ of crowley & Co., carriers—on 29th December, 1865, I delivered twenty-five cases, at 64, George Street Parade, to the person who signed this sheet (produced)—should call the name "Mullihag"—I don't know that I could identify the man.

  GEORGE KYNOCH (re-examined). This is Winslow's writing; also this delivery order (This was an order for twelve cases marked 13to 24).

  MATTHEW GAGHAN (re-examined). I produce the crane, book which cantains the signature for these goods, "R. lawrence."

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES. Q. Were you examined on 21st December before the Magistrate? A. I don't know the date—I don't know where Corydon was examined.

  HENRY FISHER . I was clerk at the curzon Street Railway Station in January, 1866-5th January I loaded the goods mentioned in this delivery order-a man named Shaw brought them to me-that is him—I also loaded these goods in the consignment note of 8th January-Shaw brought them, and I forwarded them—I also forwarded these in this note of the 11th-they were brought by the same party—he also brought this note of 12th January—the goods are weighed as they are brought—the person who brings them does not always see them weighed, but he may if he thinks proper—he did in this case—he stood by while they were being scaled-each lot took fire or ten minutes-Shaw is the man.

Cross-examined by MR. PATER. Q. Are in any employment now? A. Yes, at fowler & Dees', weighing machine makers—I left the railway company in September or October, 1867—I gave notice; I had not received notice that I was no longer required—I had been complained of more than once by the railway company; they said that I was given to drink—I do not know that I have on more than one occasion allowed other men in the employment to weigh goods and afterwards signed my initials to the paper as if I myself had discharged the duty—I will not swear that I have not—I know Broughton: he was there during the time I was there-until this charge was brought against the prisoners I had not seen the man who stood by me on these occasions after 12th January till this year—I was in the company's service sixteen or seventeen years—I have been a widower three Yeats—I remembered telling my fellow workmen that I had a child lying dead, and did not know how to raise the money to bury it; and the men got up a subscription for me—I had a child which died, but not at that time: it was not unburied in my house—it is often the case, that a collection is made after burial; it was not made to enable me to bury the child—I had buried it—I represented to my fellow workmen that I required means to bury it: it had then been buried three weeks—I will not under

take to say that it had not been buried longer than that; I can’t say for certainty—I don't think it was three months, nothing near it—I do not think two months had elapsed—I cannot positively state that it had not—I cannot give you the precise date I left the company; it was either september or October, 1866—it had not been intimated to me that if I did not leave I should be discharged—Mr. Mason was regarded as my employer: he is at Birmingham—I have four children—there are two of them at nursing in sun street, Birmingham, and one of them is with my mother at smethwick—I have not paid anything for the support of the two children for the nursing my friends are doing so—I do not know the woman's name they are with—I entered into a contract to pay for their keep and maintenance—one is four years old, and the other between five and six—I was to pay her 5s. a week—at consequence of my failing to keep that engagement she took them to the workhouse—I do not know that the guardians asked her to keep them, they allowing her a few shillings a week—I have made inquiries about them, but I have not been to see them—I left them with the woman about ten months ago—I have been in my present situation four or five months—I go whenever there is work for me—I am not in permanent employment—when I am not employed there I work for anyone—I work at the station, and carry luggage up.

MR. ATTORNEY GENERAL. Q. Was it after you became a widower that the children were left with this woman? A. Yes—the dispute between me and the company was about staying away from my duty that was two days before I left—I did not weigh the particular package—Broughton weighed them; but I was present—he is a weigher, it was his duty to weigh them; and I take the weights—these weights are in my writing—there is one letter here which is not in my writng, in the weight, but the waggon number is mine—the weight is in another parties writing," 17 cwt. 1 qr."

COURT. Q. You said that your friends helped you with the children—carryon give me the names? A. Yes; Thomas Fisher, my brother, helped to pay the nurse—I am sure of that.

  ANN ELIZABETH HIRONS . I am the wife of Henry Hirons, of 30, Moon Street, Liverpool—we let lodgings—on 20th of April, 1866, we lived at no. 48, and a gentleman came to take our lodgings—he gave the name of preston—after he had been at my house a week, a person who gave the name of Mr. Rice came—application was made for another lodging, and I mentioned the name of Mrs. Siddell, 32, Moon Street—the name of that gentleman was Winslow—Burke is the man—I saw him several times after that in my own house—he came to see Mr. Preston-other gentlemen came with him-one of the name of Beecher came-more visitors came to Mr. Preston on a Sunday than any other day—I have seen six or seven on a Sunday—Winslow and Beecher were with them—there was another of the name of Burke, another O'Brien, and one of the name of Farrell called—I do not remember any more names—I did not know Lawrence; I heard Mrs. Siddell speak of him, not in Winslow's presence—I do not know what these men came for, or what they did when they came—Preston had sittilng room and a bed room—I heard Beecher speak to Winslow once about Birmingham; he stopped as I entered the room—Preston and Rice stayed at my lodgings about sixteen weeks—they left on a Saturday afternoon; and I saw no more of them—one man called to see if there were any letters, but I do not know what his name was.

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES. Q. Do you know the witness, Corydon? A. I have seen him at my house while these people were there—I was not before the Magistrate—I remember seeing Corygdon more than once at my house; I think twice.

  ELIZABETH SIDDELL . I am the wife of John Siddell, of 32, Moon Street, Liverpool—I remember Winslow coming to my house With Preston, about the latter end of April, 1866—he took a parlour and, bed room—the prisoner Burke is the man who took the lodgings—I told him we usually had a reference—he smiled, and said he could give references in Paris, or, New York, or in Birmingham, but he supposed if he paid me honorably, that was, all I required—I said it was—he afterwards asked if I could spare another bedroom for a friend—I said yes, and another gentleman of the name of Beecher came and stayed with him—they stayed about a month, and then left—Mr. Winslow called about a week after, to see there were any letters for him—some visitors used to call and see them occasionally—Preston and Rice used to call—a man, who looked unwell, called once; he gave the name of Lawrence—I heard afterwards that no had died in one of the hospitals—from whom I heard it I do not know.

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES. Q. You have said before that Winslow's initials were E. C., how do you know? A. Because those were on his letters, and marked on his linen—it was not after seeing the newspapers that I knew the man's name was Lawrence—Lawrence himself gave the name—he looked very ill.

  MICHAEL SCAIFE . I am a detective police-constable, at Liverpool—I remember going to Mrs. Blackmore's house, 84 Salisbury Street, to the top floor—it was locked by a padlock—I drew the staple and went in—I found three tubs, with bottles, In water nearly covering the bottles—the bottles contained a liquid—I took one to the Apothecaries' Hall to be examined—a portion of the liqiud fell on my hands and clothes and burnt them.

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES Q. When did you receive the information that caused you to go there? A. About 12 o'clock on the 6th September, 1866—I never gave this evidence in a court of justice before—I was subpoened here.

  WILLIAM HOURNE . I am an inspector of detective police, in Liverpool on the 6th September, 1866, I went to Mrs. Blackmore's—she has left Liverpool—I believe she has gone to America—I went to an upstairs room, and there found three tubs, containing water and a number of bottles, which were taken to the police-office, and one to Dr. Davies—I saw one opened—Major Gregg poured a portion on some cotton—in a minute or two minutes it was in flame—we tried with hay and straw with the same effect, and also on a brick wall—it burst into flame—we put it out with the hose, but it blazed again after the water was taken off—we tried it on wood in the same way—I knew Austin Gibbon's house, in Richmond Street—he has gone to America—I watched the house in 1866; Gorydon lodged there in September of that year—I knew O'Brien, who came, there—he was afterwards executed at Manchester.

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES. Q. When did Corydon first give information about the Liverpool matters? A. About October, 1866—he did not give it until after the seizure of the Greek fire.

  DR. EDWARD DAVIES . I am an analytical chemist—I analysed the contents of the bottles given by last witness—I found in them a solution of phosphorus and bi-sulphate of carbon, which makes what is popularly called

Greek fire—it is easily made—the ingredients only require to be put in a bottle and shaken up—as soon as it is thrown out if Volatillises, the bi-Bulphate escapes, and the phosphorus ignites by the action of the air—I know no legitimate use to which it can be applied—I have found none in the works I have consulted on the subject.

  JOHN MORRISSEY I am a constable in the Irish constabulary at Cork—on 22nd November, 1866, early in the morning, I boarded the ship Halcyon, on the Quay—I saw a large deal case brought from the hold, addressed to John Daley and Co., 84, Grand Parade, Cork, and on the side of the lid, as if done with a paint brush was "This side up, with care"—it was taken by the men into the store—I ordered them to leave it—I afterwards saw it open—contained rifles, the stocks and the barrels—I saw a second case taken from the Halcyon, and taken charge of by Mr. Hamilton, the Magistrate.

  THOMAS HAMILTON, ESQ . I am, resident Magistrate at Cork—on 22nd November I went down to the Halcyon steamer and had two large boxes forced open—one was much larger than the other—there was a label on one, describing the contents as American cloth—on the other was "oiled baize"—there were fifty Enfield rifles in the larger case and thirty in the smaller, bayonets, caps, and spare nipples—I produce the ship's manifesto, which I got from the secretary to the company at Cork—that (produced) is one of the rifles and one of the bayonets.

KYNOCH (re-examined). I sold Winslow rifles of precisely the same description—I sold 500, with bayonets and bullet moulds—these rifles are of the regulation pattern—I have sold a great many of them.

  JOHN DALEY . I carry on business in the drapery and furnishing trade, on the Grand Parade, Cork—I sometimes receive packages of American cloth and oiled baize from Liverpool and other ports—I heard of the arrival of two packages of rifles to my address—I had not ordered them.

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES Q. may things be consigned to you by your English correspondents without your knowledge? A. in the ordinary way they would be preceded by invoices—I have sometimes received goods without having first received the invoice.

MR. ATTORNEY-GENERAL Q. Did you ever have any correspondent of yours send rifles? A. not to my knowledge—I do not act as agent for anybody—I never ordered these goods, or, authorized anyone to order them.

  THOMAS KAVANAGH . I am supercargo at the Nelson Dock, Liverpool, for the owners of the Halcyon, Wilson, Son and Walton—on the 17th November, 1866, two people with a cart brought two deal cases—the shipping note was lost—I looked in every place where we were likely to find it—the shipers were Messrs. Cooke and Townsend Liverpool, to a respectabel firm in Cork, the Messrs. Daley—Messrs. Cooke and town send are not in the habit of shipping to Messrs. Daley—they do not ship by us—the cases were brought in a private cart.

  JOHN TOWNSEND . I am a member of the firm of Cooke & Townsend, of Liverpool—we, did not, in November, 1866, send to Messrs, Daley, of Cork, two packages by the Halcyon, or know of their being sent—we do not deal in rites or bayonets—we deal in oil-silk, baize, and leather-cloths.

  ELILZA LAMBERT . I lived in service, at no. 7 Tavistock Street, Bedford Square, in January, 1867—at the latter end of that month, or the beginning of February, the prisoner Burke, giving the name, of Mr., Wallace, came to lodge there with Mr. Massey—Massey went by the name of Mr. Cleburn—Mr.

Wallace stayed one week and Mr. Cleburn four or five weeks—I am not certain.

  FERDINAND FREDERICI . In January, 1867, I live at 5, North Crescent, Bedford Square—two gentleman, who gave the names of Coleman and Fletcher, came to lodge at my house about the 28th—Fletcher stayed a fortnight: Coleman six weeks—I have been over to Dublin, and I was in court, and saw on his trial the person called Fletcher—he was being tried under the name of General Halpin—Emma Layton was my servant—she attended to the door, I sometimes opened it.

  EMMA LAYTON . I remember two persons coming to live at Mr. Frederici's, by the names of Coleman and Fletcher—I recollect Mr. Massey coming to call on them—there was also the man Fariola, who pleaded guilty in Dublin—I was present at the trial of General Halpin—he was Fletcher.

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES. Q. Did you ever see the prisoner burke call at the house? A. No.

  ELIZA COPPINS . I was living in January, 1867, at 137, Great Portland Street, with my father, brother, and sister—I remember in January a gentleman who gave the name of Fariola, took the parlours—two gentleman came to see him—Massey was one of those—another called Farrell also called—I saw Fariola on his trial at Dublin as General Fariola—I was in the habit of letting them in out of the house—they locked their door.

  MILES LAMBERT . I kept the Commercial Hotel, Lord Nelson Street, Liverpool, in 1866—I recollect Inspector Honey and Major Gregg coming to search there—before that the prisoner Burke used to call upon parties; but I cannot say who they were—when Mr. Horne came to my house he found some haversacks, that was a day on so after Winslow had been to the house—I think the parties who had lodged at my house were Deasy, O'Conntor, and Captain O'Brien.

  WILLIAM HORNE . (re-examined). I found the haversacks (produced) spoken of by last witness, on the 12th of September, 1866.

  JAMES HOLLEMAN . I am sergeant instructor in musketry of the South Cork Militia—I was colour-serjeant in March 1856—I knew Burke—he was in the regiment from 1853 till May 1856—I knew him as Rickard Burke—I never saw him after 1856 until I saw him in goal—it was militia regiment.

  JOHN DALY . I am colour-sergeant of the South Cork Militia regiment at Bindon—the prisoner Rickard Burke was in our regiment—I saw him the night before he left—I knew his mother and sister—they live in Bandon—I know a place called Macroom, about twelve miles from Bandon—they are not there now.

  ELIZABETH ITHELL . In 1867 I lived with my husband at the King's Head, Grosvenor Street, Chester—I remember a man coming there on February 9th, as Frederick Johnston—I have been to Dublin, and I saw that man on his trial in Dublin in the name of McCafferty—on Sunday a man came and lodged with him all night—our house is a short distance from Chester Castle—the castle gates come to Grosvenor Street, where the Militia house is.

  WILLIAM BRAY . I am a detective officer of the Chester police—on 11th February, 1867, I saw the men in Chester who were afterwards tried in Dublin as Flood and McCafferty—on that day I saw several trains arrive from Liverpool, Birkenhead, and Manchester—great numbers of strangers arrived—some went up towards the castle, some towards the city—there

were about 2000—Flood spoke to some of them—next day I found in the canal, near the railway, some pistols, powder and ball, and caps: some were in the field—I never found any owners for them—I saw some of the men going away next day—there were arms stored in the castle at Chester (30, 000 stand)—prior to that time there were very few soldiers in Chester—the castle is not a very formidable fortress; the courts of justice form part of it: it is now a barracks, and the county prison is behind.

  JOHN CLARK . I am sergeant of the Chester constabulary—I was on duty on 11th February at Chester—the first I saw come was about 9 a.m—I saw John Flood on his trial at Dublin—I had seen him in a Hansom cab at Chester—some troops and the volunteers came into Chester on the same day—I examined a pool next day, and found 160 ball cartridges—rifle cartridges—on the road leading from Liverpool to Chester, I found about 100 ball cartridges—I think that was about the 18th.

  FRANCIS SHERIDAN . I was a sergeant in the Dublin police force—on the night of the 5th March, 1867, I was on duty at Milltown village, about two and a half miles from Dublin patrolling with three more constables—we went a short distance out and met a body of 700 or 800 men—all were armed with the Enfield rifle and bayonets, or with pikes—those who had pikes had also revolvers—they disarmed us—we had revolvers and swords and were on duty in uniform—they were marching in military array four deep—after they disarmed us they put a number of men with fixed bayonets round us, and marched us off to a place called Stepaside, about two miles away, through the villages of Windyharbour and Dundrum—the parties in command ordered them to march in regular order—there is a constabulary barrack at Stepaside—they went to the front of the barrack, rapped at the door loudly and demanded, them to surrender in the name of the Irish Republic—that was Lennan, who commanded—the police refused—the body of men opened fire by order of the man in command—they got a sledge hammer from the smith's forge and broke the door—they broke the window, and threw straw into the place and set it on fire—they said they would burn them out of it—one of the men said he was at a loss for Greek fire—there were four or five police in the barrack—the heavy firing was kept up for a length of time, the police replying from within—at length the people broke in, and took the police prisoners—I saw them distributing the police arms among the insurgents—they went on towards Bray—they got to a place called Old Connaught, where they halted, and then to Glonoullen—there is a constabulary barrack there—the man in command ordered the riflemen to the front—he rapped at the door, and demanded them to surrender in the name of the Irish Republic—that was not aceeded to, and they fired into the front of the barrack for some length of time—the constables kept up the fire for it may be two hours—the result of that was that, we were marched down by the insurgents—the constables kept firing—I saw a man shot near me; one of the insurgents—after two hours they put us in front, and got behind us—Lennan told them he would keep us in front between the two fires until the arms were given up—the arms were then given up, and the body of men went away, leaving us at the barrack.

  JOHN MCILWAINE . I am a member of the Irish Constabulary—I remember the night of the rising, the 5th March, 1867—shortly before that time, I saw a person who I afterwards knew as General Halpin—I was a witness on his trial—I saw him on one occasion, a few days before the risings, in the village of Stepaside, county Dublin—he was on a car with

a few others—I was at the barrack of Step aside. At 2 o'clock in the morning, when it was attacked—Sheridan was there, and was one of the men who were taken prisoners; we had to surrender—I saw another barrack attacked afterwards—I did not go on to Pollack

  JEREMIAH COGHLAN . In March, 1867, I was, as head constable stationed at the west gate of the town of Drogheda—there was a rising against the authorities, and a fight took place in the potato market—it was very dark—the numbers were estimated at from 700 to 1, 000; there were six of us—they fired two shots and ran away.

  JOHN FITZPATRICK . I am in the Irish Police—I was at the arrest of Mullidy, about fifteen miles from Drogheda, on the 7th of March, 1867—I saw three men and followed them—I saw one named Roach attempt to throw away some percussion caps, and I took him while others took Dohany and Mullidy—I found on Mullidy a six-chambered revolver, loaded and capped.

Cross-examined by MR. PATER Q. He was taken before the Magistrates for carrying arms in a proclaimed district? A. Yes; and has since been kept in prison, under the Habeas Corpus Suspension Act.

  EDWARD REGAN . I am railway porter at Mill Street station—Macroom is about ten miles off—on the night of 6th March, 1867, a party of men came to the door and when I opened it the leader put a revolver to my breast, and told me to give up my arms—I said I had none—he told me to open the door—he went in and got a gun—he went out—I went out after him, and saw the telegraph wires—he asked me where the instrument was—I told him I had none—he took out a knife, and cut the wire that connects the instrument, and took the instrument and smashed it on the platform—they called one of them a captain—I heard him say, "Bring on that man"—next morning I saw the telegraph wires broken a mile from the station.

  RICHARD ADAMS . I was the head constable at Kilmanlock, in the country of Limerick, and was stationed there on the night of the 5th March—an alarm was given about 5.45—I went round to see that the men were at their stations—I saw outside the barracks armed men—I could see the guns behind the walls; the barracks is surrounded by walls—some of them double-barrelled guns—they first attempted to set the front door on fire, then they fired on the barracks—they were fifteen of the police, including myself—I saw at least forty men at one time running away—there were about five hundred altogether—we picked up between seventy and eighty stand of arms—when they ran away they threw away their arms—the fire was kept up briskly for half-an-hour, and at intervals for three hours—they got a ladder and got on the roof, and attempted to take off the slates and put a tar barrel in—before they returned I saw some men fall—I ordered the doors to be thrown open and our men to turn out—we were nearly an hour skirmishing before we got them from their positions—at length we drove them out, and captured prisoners—we found guns, swords, pistols, daggers, and pikes, and a set of quarry tools, blasting powder, and fuses, to blow up the barracks—we took a great many prisoners.

  JOHN BROWN . I Belong to the Cork constabulary—I was stationed at Ballymachan—on the morning of 6th March, a body of men, about 150, came to the barrack door, marching in military array, and demanded us to surrender in the name of the Irish republic—we refused, and fired upon

them; they fired on us—the insurgents set fire to the barrack—I went to the top of the barrack and asked them to let my daughter go—they refused at first, but in half an hour they brought a ladder, and whilst we were deseending they fired a shot or two at us as we got down—there were five of us—they took our arms—one of them said, "This is the day for the general rising; Cork is not taken yet, but will be in a week"—the principal party was commanded by Colonel O'Brien and Mackay, who was tried at Cork Assizes, and sentenced to fifteen year's penal servitude—O' Brien was sentenced to death; others were also tried and convicted.

  Thomas RILEY . I am a sergeant of the Dublin metropolitan police—on the 23rd of February, 1867, while watching the American brig New Draper, I Saw two men drop from it into an oyster boat, and row up the river—I went in pursuit in a ferry boat, and arrested them on a coal boat—they gave the names of Phillips and Jackson—they were afterwards convicted in the name of Flood and McCafferty.

  THOMAS NOLAN . I am in the convict service, at Mountjoy Convict Prison—in 1867 I received McCafferty in the prison, and found on him a ring (produced)—there is an inscription on the inside and on the outside—on the outside is "Erin, I love thee and thy patriots," and on the inside of the hoop it says, "Presented to Captain McCafferty, I.R.V., Detroit Circle of Fenian Brothers, in token of esteem, April, 1866"

  WORKSHIP LEE . I am a constable of the Irish police—I arrested a man who called himself Hart, on board an American vessel called the City of Paris—I found on him this letter (produced, but not read)—he was afterwards tried as Halpin.

  PATRICK MULLANY . In 1867 I carried on business as a military tailor, at 20, Sherwood Street, Golden Square—I took part in Fenian meetings—I know Burke—I saw him at my house in April or May, 1867—I think he was there in July or August—I did not see him often—he wrote a letter at my house once on a newspaper—I first knew him under the name of Winslow, and secondly under the name of Brown—he never met any other persons at my house except a few men that worked there, and a woman who used to be there, and who used to chaff him—I never saw him do anything at my house—he mentioned a pair of trousers and waistcoat to me once—he never mentioned any Fenian business in my house—I have seen Burke at Fenian meetings—I heard in November of his being taken

  JOHN JOSEPH CORYDON (re-examined). I have spoken of seeing Mullidy at Mrs. Blackmore's, in Liverpool—I knew Preston and Rice intimately; they were Fenians—I have seen them at Fenian meetings several times—I saw them in Liverpool during the summer of 1866—I saw Burke and Mullidy in company with them—if the Chester affair had succeeded in February, there was to be a rising at that time—one country did rise—on two or three occasions there were contemplated rising—there was to be one in 1865, before the Irish People office was seized, in Dublin

Cross-examined by MR. E. JONES. Q. How many times have you been examined before the Magistrate on this matter? A. I believe three or four times before—I do not know whether I have mentioned Preston and Rice before—I answered all questions asked—I was not standing at the inside of the gallery door to-day; I was letting a friend in—I was told that witnesses were not allowed to come into Court, and I did not wish to come in—that is the custom I always travel by.

  WILLIAM HORNE . (re-examined). I know Inspector Cousins; no doubt he would be employed to investigate the matter about the Greek fire with me, it is quite possible, there were several officers engaged.

At the close of the case for the prosecution, the ATTORNEY-GENERAL withdrew the case as to CASEY— NOT GUILTY .

BURKE— GUILTY — Fifteen Years' Penal Servitude .

SHAW— GUILTY — Seven Years' Penal Servitude .