11th May 1863
Reference Numbert18630511-685
VerdictGuilty > unknown

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685. JOHN GASFORD (30), was indicted for a like offence.

MESSRS. COOKE and CRAWFORD conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS HENSON . I was with the prisoner in the Queen's-road, Chelsea, when he gave me a shilling to get half an ounce of tobacco—I went in to get it—the woman served me—I gave her the shilling and got change, which I gave to the prisoner who was standing outside—he then asked me to go in for another half-ounce, and gave me a two-shilling bit—the man served me then, and I gave him the two-shilling bit, and he said, "Tell the man to come in"—I went out and told the prisoner the man wanted to speak to him, and I waited outside the public-house while the prisoner went into the tobacco shop—the woman from the shop came up to me and then went into the public-house.

Cross-examined by MR. PATER. Q. Does the prisoner live with your father? A. Yes; at Hope-cottages, Park-place, Chelsea—when I went into the shop, the prisoner was outside with a barrow and some flowers—I saw. no one in the shop but the woman and man at any time.

MR. COOKE. Q. Has the prisoner got a wife? A. Yes; she lives with him at my father's.

MARY ANN WALLACE . My husband keeps a tobacconist's shop in the Queen's-road—on Thursday evening, 30th April, the last witness came into my shop—I served him with half an ounce of tobacco—he gave me a shilling and I gave him 10 1/2 d. change, and put the shilling in the till where there was no other silver—he came in again about half an hour after—my husband served him with some tobacco, and he produced a two-shilling piece—my husband said it was bad—some conversation passed between them, and the boy left the shop—I then looked in the till and found the shilling there was bad—I then went out, and saw the boy outside the Phoenix public-house—in consequence of what he said, I went in and saw the prisoner—I taxed him with sending a boy in with a bad shilling and florin, and he said, "Come outside"—I did so—I held the shilling between my thumb and finger, and he snatched it away—at that time the landlord of the Phoenix came up, and said to the prisoner, "Governor, you have given me a bad shilling," and told the boy to go for a policeman—on that the prisoner ran away.

Cross-examined. Q. Is there a public-house close to your shop? A. Yes; next door, called the "Chelsea Pensioners"—I did not see the prisoner there at any time, or the boy—the Phoenix is about five minutes walk from our shop—I took all the money out of the till about half an hour before the boy came in—there was no silver in it, only halfpence.

THOMAS WALLACE . I am the husband of the last witness—on the evening of 30th April, that little boy came into my shop, and asked for half an ounce of tobacco, and tendered a two-shilling piece to my daughter—she handed it to me—it was bad—in consequence of something I said to the boy, he went out of the shop, and I saw him join the prisoner, who was standing at the corner of Smith-street, close at the Chelsea Pensioners public-house—they walked hastily down Smith-street, towards the Phoenix, and my wife went after them—I afterwards gave the florin to a policeman.

Cross-examined. Q. At the time the boy came in the second time, what money was in the till. A. A few halfpence and this one shilling—I am certain there was no silver under the coppers—my daughter is not here.

HENRY CHOWN . I am landlord of the Phoenix in Smith-street, Chelsea—on the evening of 30th April, I remember Mrs. Wallace coming in—about three minutes before that, the prisoner came in and asked for half-a-quartern of gin, and gave me a shilling—I gave him change, and put the shilling in

the till—Mrs. Wallace charged him with passing bad money, and he was very anxious to get her outside—on that I looked at my till and found a bad shilling on the top of some small change—I went outside with the shilling in my hand, and said to him, "Governor, you have given me a bad shilling"—he immediately snatched it from my hand and gave me a good one—I told him I should detain him and send for a policeman—he then ran away as hard as he could run—I followed him, crying, "Stop thief!" and he was stopped by Sergeant Barker.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you know the prisoner at all? A. No; I believe his father is a pensioner, a respectable man—I know the boy by his bringing in a half-crown before that.

JAMES BARBER (Policeman, B 16). I was in the King's-road on this night, heard a cry of "Stop thief!" and saw the prisoner running and Mr. Chown after him—I ran and caught the prisoner and he was given into my custody—he commenced struggling—I had hold of his right arm—he put his left hand in his pocket and threw something away—I told the people to look out, and a boy picked up this bad shilling (produced)—I searched him at the station, and in his left-hand pocket I found a bad two-shilling piece and a bad shilling—I also found in the same pocket nine sixpences, a fourpenny piece, two threepenny pieces, and 1s. 9 1/2 d. in copper, good money, and some tobacco—I received this florin (produced) from Mr. Wallace.

JAMES GEORGE JARRATT . I saw the prisoner and policeman struggling together, and heard the policeman say, "Look out for something"—I picked up this bad shilling and gave it to him—I was about half a yard from the prisoner at the time.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . The coins produced are all counterfeit, and the two florins are from the same mould.

GUILTY .*— Confined Eighteen Months.

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