31st January 1859
Reference Numbert18590131-295
VerdictGuilty > unknown; Not Guilty > unknown

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295. MARGARET HANNAGAN (33), and MARY TIERNEY (29) Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.

MESSRS. CLERK and POLAND conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM HENRY MANNERS . I am shopman to Mr. Hall, an oilman in Lambeth Walk—on Thursday, 13th January, Hannagan came between 6 and 7 o'clock for half a pound of soap—it came, to 2d.—she offered me one shilling—I tried it with my teeth, made a mark on it, and bent it—I should know it again—I said to her, "This is a bad shilling"—I gave it back to her—I did not notice where she put it—she had a basket with her—she paid

me with a good shilling, and I gave her the change—after she was gone, I sent a boy named Boniface after her, and in a short time I went out myself—I saw Hannagan in the street, near the Angel public-house, talking to Tierney and another woman—I gave notice to a policeman, and went with him into the Angel—I there saw the three women whom I had seen in the street—Hannagan had her hand in her bosom—the policeman asked her what she had in her hand—she made a movement with her hand, and shortly afterwards I saw three counterfeit shillings lying on the door nearly close to Hannagan—the potboy picked them up in my presence and gave them to the policeman—after the prisoners were taken to the station, I went there and saw Sergeant Garford take a shilling from a basket which was like the basket that Hannagan had when she came to my shop—I did not recognise that shilling, but I looked at the three shillings which had been picked up at Hannagan's feet, and I identified one of them as the shilling which had been offered to me.

WILLIAM BONIFACE . I am shop boy to Mr. Hall—on Thursday evening, 13th January, the last witness called me into the shop—I saw Hannagan there—when she left the shop, the last witness directed me to follow her—I went out of the shop and saw Hannagan looking in at the window of Mrs. Leonard, a cheesemonger, about five doors from our shop—Hannagan went on, and I lost sight of her about two or three minutes—I went on the other side—I next saw Hannagan, Tierney, and another woman about sixteen doors from Mrs. Leonard's shop-they were going towards the Angel public-house—I went up to them, and I heard Hannagan say to Tierney, "I have passed three bad shillings; one was to a little boy"—I heard something like the shifting of money from one to the other when I was by the side of them—the sound appeared to come from Hannagan and Tierney—I went to the Angel—the policeman went in—I remained about a quarter of an hour—I then saw my master and the constable—I saw them go into the Angel.

Hannagan. I did not say that I had passed three bad shillings. Witness. I am sure I heard you say so—the policeman did not tell me to say so—I was by your side at the time—I touched you.

CAROLINE LEONARD . I am the wife of Joseph Leonard, a cheesemonger in Lambeth Walk, four doors from Mr. Hall's—on Thursday evening, 13th January, the prisoner Tierney came into the shop and brought half a pound of bacon in her hand—it was 6d. a pound—the half-pound came to 3d—she offered me 1s.—I saw that she had copper money in her hand—I tried the shilling, and told her it was bad—she took it from my hand—she then asked for a quarter of a pound of shilling butter, gave me a good shilling, and I gave her sixpence change—she left with the bacon and butter and the bad shilling—I could recognise it by the mark I made at the bottom of the wreath that goes round the shilling—it was shown to me at the police court on the Friday.

CHARLES LEESON KENNEDY (Policeman, L 181). On Thursday evening, 13th January, about 7 o'clock, Mr. Manners spoke to me, and I went with him to the Angel—I found the prisoners there, and a third woman—I asked the landlord what the prisoners had had—he said "A pint of beer, and they had paid him good money"—I saw Hannagan's hand, and she had a bulk under her glove—I asked her what she had in her hand, and she immediately put her hand in her bosom—I seized it, and drew it from her bosom, and while I was doing that, I heard something fall on the floor—the potman stooped down, picked it up, and told me that Hannagan had dropped it from

under her clothes, and he handed me three shillings—Hannagan gave me a little bag, which was in her bosom, and in it was a 2s.-piece, and 11 1/4 d. in copper, which was good; she said it was good money, and she would show me all her money—I took Tierney in custody—she said she had no idea at all about Hannagan, that she only accidentally met her at the top of the Walk, and she had asked her and the other woman to have something to drink—Hannagan had a basket with her—I took the prisoners to the station, and gave the basket to Sergeant Garford—I saw him examine its contents—he took out some soap, and a shilling which was marked, and he gave it to me—Hannagan saw these things taken out of the basket, and she said she knew she had a bad shilling, but what she had got she had paid for in good money; and as to the three shillings, she said she never had them at all—Tierney said, "I went into the shop, and paid for what I got in good money"—the bacon was found in the taproom, but I did not see it—on Tierney was found 2 shillings, 3 sixpences, and fivepence in copper, good, and some duplicates—she said her name was Turner—this is the shilling that was taken out of the basket, and these are the three that were on the floor.

STEPHEN PALMER . I am potman at the Angel—On the evening of the 13th January, I was at the bar—the two prisoners and another woman were there—the policeman came in, and asked Hannagan what she had got in her hand—she immediately put her hand in her breast, and pulled out a small bag, and said, "This is all the money I have got"—she had at first said she had nothing—I saw a shilling fall from the inside of her dress at her feet—I stooped to pick it up, and saw two other shillings by the side of it at her feet—I picked up the three shillings, and gave them to the constable—the three women came in together; they had a pint of porter to drink.

Hannagan. Q. Did you see me drop it? A. I saw it fall from inside your dress—it was not wrapped in a piece of paper—there was no paper on the ground, only the three shillings—they were a small distance from each other.

THOMAS GARFORD (Police-sergeant L.) On Thursday evening, 13th January, I was at the station at Kennington-lane when the prisoners were brought in—I examined a basket that Hannagan had, and found in it a piece of soap and a bad shilling—I showed the shilling to the Magistrate, and gave it to the constable—this is the shilling I found in the basket.

CAROLINE LEONARD (re-examined). This shilling, found among the three that were on the floor, is the one that Tierney offered to me.

WILLIAM HENRY MANNERS (re-examined). This shilling is the one that was offered to me by Hannagan; it is amongst those picked off the floor.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . I am inspector of coin to the Royal Mint—these 4 shillings are all bad—two of them are from one mould, and two from another—the one uttered by Tierney is of the date 1839, and the one uttered by Hannagan is 1856—the other two are 1839 and 1856.

Hannagan's Defence. I did not know the shilling was bad till the man refused it—there are plenty who know me, and know I don't get my living by it—I always work hard for my living.

Tierney's Defence. I know this woman, but I had not seen her for the last nine years—I was going to my lodging, and she met me and said, "Come and have a glass of ale"—we went in the house, and she wanted a quarter of a pound of butter, and half a pound of bacon, and gave me the shilling to go and get it—it was bad, and I took a shilling out of my pocket and gave

it—I then went back to Hannagan, and said, "Do you know this shilling you gave me was a bad one?

Witness for the Defence.

MARY FARRELL . I am single—I know Tierney from Irving in the neighbourhood—she and I met Hannagan, and she gave Tierney a shilling to get some bacon and a quarter of a pound of butter, and she came back and said it was a bad shilling.

Cross-examined by MR. CLERK. Do you know Tierney? A. Yes, she lives in the same street—I was never taken before for passing bad money—I was taken this time, and discharged—I was in custody seven years ago, and was remanded—I was a charge of stealing a silk dress—I can't tell what time of day I saw Tierney—it was the day my father had his pension, and I went to see Tierney, and Hannagan was there—they were going to have a raffle on Saturday night, and I said I would have a try in it—when I went in the children were having fish and potatoes—I did not stay many minutes—I they were going out, and I said, "I will go with you—I said I had no money—Hannagan said she had some, and about half an hour we were all taken in custody—when we left Tierney's house together, Hannagan sent Tierney into the butter-shop—Hannagan said she would go and get some soap, as it was good soap there—she said, "Stop outside" and I stopped outside with Tierney—we then went on, and Tierney said she was going to get some bacon for the lodger's tea—I she went to Mrs. Leonard's—I did not go in—I was on the other side of the way, waiting, with Hannagan—I when Tierney came out, we all three stood talking together—I wanted to go home, as I thought they had some family affairs to talk about, and Hannagan said, "Come and have a pint of beer"—I we then went into the Angel, and there we were all three taken.

HANNAGAN— GUILTY .— confined three months.


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