Reference Number | t18280529-16 |
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Verdict | Guilty; Guilty |
Sentence | Death; Death |
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Before Mr. Justice Holroyd.
1092. THOMAS DORMER and JAMES CARTER were indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Edmund Sayers , on the 29th of April at Fulham , and stealing therein 3 spoons, value 7s.; 1 teapot, value 3s.; 2 tea caddies, value 10s.; 1 brooch, value 5s.: 1 pair of ear-rings, value 4s.; 1 gown, value 5s.; 1 frock, value 5s.; 6 shirts, value 18s.; 3 shifts, value 3s.; 16 handkerchiefs, value 10s.; 1 table-cloth, value 18d.; 1 pair of pockets, value 18d.; 2 pinafores, value 18d.; 1 sleeping gown, value 1s; 1 pillow case, value 1s.; 7 aprons, value 10s.; 1 jacket, value 4s.; 2 stockings, value 9d.; 4 caps, value 4s.; two shawls, value 5s., and 1 towel, value 6d., his property .
MR. PHILLIPS conducted the prosecution.
CICELY SAYERS . I am the wife of Edmund Sayers; we live at North-end , in the parish of Fulham, Middlesex. On Monday night, the 28th of April, I went to bed a little before eleven o'clock - I was the last person up; I heard a little noise, I think about two hours after I had gone to bed: my children slept in the cottage with me that night: my husband is a gardener - he lives and always sleeps at his master's house, but I live in this house and my husband pays the rent; I got up about five o'clock next morning, and missed my clothes which I had washed the day before - I also missed three silver tea-spoons and two odd cotton stockings, the fellows to which I have here: I had fastened the windows and shutters when I went to bed, and when I came down, the ground-floor window was open - they had broken a pane of glass to open the hasp - anybody could then get in and take the things; the window opens into the kitchen; I missed a great many more things which have not been found - a metal tea-pot was taken from the cupboard, three silver spoons, two mahogany tea caddies, and several articles.
THOMAS PACE . I am a constable of Queen-square. I received information from Sanders, and went to Brooks' sale shop, Great Tothill-street, Westminster, on Tuesday morning, the 29th of April - I got from him these three broken tea-spoons, which I have had ever since.
WILLIAM BROOKS . I am a hardwareman, and live in Great Tothill-street. On Tuesday, the 29th of April, at nine o'clock in the morning, the prisoner Dormer came to me with the three tea-spoons produced - they were broken at that time - I gave him 5s. for them; I asked whose they were; he said he worked at a dust-hill, and found them in the dust; I asked why he broke them; he said they were cracked, and he thought he might as well break them; I took his address, which I gave to Pace, with the same spoons as he brought.
ISAAC HAWKINS . I am constable of Fulham. I, in company with Sanders, apprehended the prisoners together, at the Star public-house, North-end, Fulham, on Tuesday afternoon, the 29th of April, about three or four o'clock, I took two odd stockings which I now produce, off Carter's legs - I asked where he got them; he said he bought them, and had paid for them, and had washed them out himself - that he had had them in his possession three or five weeks, I am not certain which, but am sure it was three weeks at least; he did not say of whom he bought them. When I apprehended Dormer I told him I wanted him about the spoons - he said he knew nothing about them, and I did not question him further.
CICELY SAYERS. These are my husband's spoons - they have our initials on them, E.C.S.; they are what were missing: I had seen these two stockings at seven o'clock the evening before, and washed them; here are the fellows; I know them by my own work on them -
they were marked, but the marks have been cut off those that were stolen; it remains on the fellows - they belong to my son, who is nineteen years old; he does not live at home; I had them to wash for him; they are worth 6d., and the tea-spoons 7s.CARTER'S Defence. She is a false-swearing woman; she did not see the stockings for two days after the robbery. I think it is hard she should be allowed to swear to them.
DORMER'S Defence. On Tuesday morning I was going to look for work, and between the Five Fields and the Bag of Nails public-house, I picked up the spoons, wrapped in paper, and a piece of rag; I asked several people who came by if they were silver; they said they were, and I sold them. I gave Brooks my own name.
WILLIAM BROOKS re-examined. I think I had seen Dormer before; I asked his name, and he said Thomas Dormer; I asked his address, and he said, "Mr. Brooks, you know me - I live at No. 5, Perkins'-rents, next door to a customer of your's;" I do not know whether he did live there; I put that address down in a book, in his presence, with the weight of the spoons, which was 1 oz. 1 dwt.
THOMAS PACE re-examined. Brooks gave me the address which Dormer had given; I went there - it is a house of ill-fame; I could find no such person, nor hear of any such name; I searched every room in the house.
DORMER - GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 20.
CARTER - GUILTY - DEATH . Aged 17.