The Proceedings of the Old Bailey

 

40.   MARY MURRAY , otherwise BARRINGTON , was indicted for that she, in the King's highway, in and upon Sarah, the wife of   Daniel Plater , on the 14th of November , did make an assault, putting her in corporeal fear and danger of her life, and taking from her person a leather purse, value 2d. and eighty-two guineas in monies numbered , the property of the said Daniel Plater.(The case was opened by Mr. Gurney.)

  SARAH PLATER sworn. - Examined by Mr. Gurney. I am the wife of Daniel Plater, of Woburn, in Buckinghamshire; I deal in lace ; I came to town the 13th of November, with some lace, and on the 14th of November sold it to Mr. Wells, in Fleet-street, for which I received, in the evening, between seven and eight o'clock, eighty guineas in gold, and half-a-guinea; I put it in a leather purse, and tied it up with a string, and put it in my left hand pocket; I called at Mr. Moore's, to buy some drugs; not having money enough to pay for them, without exposing my purse, I borrowed two shillings of my daughter; after that I called at a pastry-cook's, and bought a pie for my supper; there I pulled out my purse, and put it again in my pocket; while I had my purse out to take out a guinea, a man came in and called for a cheesecake, and stood behind me to eat it; he went out before me; when I came out, I had the money in my pocket, and kept my hand round it; when I came under the scaffolding in  Fleet-street , a man ran between my daughter and me, and knocked my daughter one way and me another.

Q. Was that the same man you saw in the pastry-cook's shop? - A. I don't know; he had the same coloured cloaths on.

Q. Was his appearance like the man you had seen? - A. Yes; the prisoner was on my left-hand, next my left-hand pocket, my hand was then round my purse.

Q. Was it round your purse after the man pushed you? - A. Yes.

Q. You are sure the man had quitted you before your and was off the purse? - A. Yes; I was then pushed almost down by the woman, as I judged.

Court. Q. The man pushed you against the woman, and then she pushed you again? - A. Yes; and then she laid hold on my cloaths, just by my pocket, and almost pushed me down, and obliged me to pull my hand out of my pocket to save myself; when I had recovered myself, in a moment, while the woman was by me, I missed my purse, and cried out, this woman has robbed me of eighty guineas and upwards; her face at that time was full in the light of the lamp.

Q. Was the woman by when you cried out you had lost your money? - A. Yes; she cried out, what are you at, what would you have; I said, I was ruined for ever; she went forward, and a man stood ready to receive her.

Q. At the time she spoke, her face was right against the lamp? - A. Yes; I saw her as plain as if I had held the lamp against her face myself.

Q. Are you able to speak positively to her person? - A. Yes.

Q. Have you seen her since? - A. Yes; twice at Hatton-garden; on Monday, a week after the robbery, she was taken in consequence of an information, and a description I had given of her to the officers of the Police.

Court. Q. You had observed her so much as to give a description of her person? - A. Yes.

Q. Do you see that person in Court now, that you gave a description of at the Police-office? - A. Yes.

Q. Where is she? - Go down and touch the person. - (The witness goes down and touches the prisoner).

Q. Is that the person you saw at the office? - A. Yes.

Q. Are you sure that is the same woman you saw that night? - A. Yes; I am quite positive of it.

Q. At the time you were robbed, your daughter was with you? - A. Yes.

Cross-examined by Mr. Jackson. Q. Have you seen the man since that pushed against you? - A. No.

Q. You are not very much used to London, I believe? - A. Yes; I have come many years with my lace.

Q. You know, between seven and eight at night, there is always a great croud of people in Fleet-street? - A. Yes; but I never was interrupted before.

Q. How many people were there when you were making your passage through this place? - A. I don't know, I believe there were more of the gang.

Q. Were there sixty or seventy persons passed through while you were in the passage? - A. No, there were not; there might be five or six.

Q. Do you mean to say there were not more than five or six persons about you? - A I saw nobody to take any notice of but the man and the woman.

Q. This man pushed you against the woman? - A. Yes.

  Q. Was it not very natural for the woman, in those circumstances, to say, what is the matter, what do you want? - A. She had hold of my cloaths.

Q. You said she caught hold of you to save herself? - A. No; I did not say so.

Q. How was the woman dressed? - A. In a short black cloak, and a straw hat, and a black veil turned up.

Q. You had taken out your purse at Mr. Moore's? - A. No.

Q. Where did you take it out before you took it out at the pastry-cook's? - A. No where else.

Q. This man was at your back there? - A. Yes; eating a cheesecake.

Q. Did he see your purse? - A. I don't know.

Q. Was he in a position that he might see it? - A. Yes.

Q. Upon your describing the person of the prisoner she was taken up - were any other persons taken up in consequence of that description? - A. Yes; there were three taken up that I was called to see: Mrs. Barnsfellow, Mrs. Barnet, and Miss Seymour.

Q. Your description must be pretty general to apply to three persons? - A. I said, I don't know.

Q. There were three taken up? - A. Yes; and a man.

Q. Which of the three did you say, to the Magistrate, was like the person? - A. Neither; I said the nose of Miss Seymour rather resembled her's, but I said neither of them were the woman.

Q. Did not you say Miss Seymour was like her? - A. She had not a feature like her except her nose.

Q. Did not you say she was most like her? - A. No.

Q. Were not you admonished not to be too positive? - A. I don't know; I was not positive at all, I knew she was not the person.

Q. Did any body admonish you not to be too positive? - A. I don't recollect any such thing.

Q. Do not you recollect sufficiently to know whether it was or was not so? - A. No; I said it was not the person.

Q. Was the woman that ran against you elegantly or meanly dressed? - A. Middling.

Q. When was she apprehended? - A. On Friday.

Q. Were you present? - A. No.

Q. You don't know whether your purse, or money, was found? - A. No.

Jury.   Q. Whether, in the act of drawing your hand from your pocket, you might not draw the purse out? - A. No; I am sure I left it in my pocket.

Q. The man passed you, and the woman pushed you; it was all done in a moment? - A. Yes; the woman squalled out, what is the matter, what do you want.

Mr. Gurney. Q. You are quite sure you had your purse and money in your pocket after the man quitted you? - A. Yes.

Q. Three other persons were brought to the office, and you said, they were not the persons? - A. Yes.

Q. Have you any doubt of the prisoner? - A. No; I am quite sure she is the person.

  SARAH PLATER sworn. - Examined by Mr. Gurney. I am the daughter of the last witness; I was coming down Fleet-street with her, when she was robbed; I felt a woman at the side of my arm.

Q. Did you before that see a man? - A. No; I did not; we were coming along, my mother was leaning her right hand on my arm, and her left hand was in her pocket; the woman jostled me from my mother.

Q. Did you see her do any thing more? - A. No, I did not; I put my elbow back against the woman, and she screamed out, "what would you be at," or "what would you have of me."

Q. Did you observe the face of the woman? - A. Only as she passed me, I cannot swear to her.

Cross-examined by Mr. Jackson. Q. Your mother said a man ran between you, and separated you? - A. A man ran between us after the robbery, I believe it was the woman that ran between us.

Q. Was it the man that ran between you first, or a woman? - A. I think it was the woman.

Q. Was there more than one man jostled between you? - A. I saw but one.

Q. How far were you under the scaffolding at this time? - A. About half way.

Q. While you and your mother were under the scaffolding, how many persons might pass you? - A. I saw none pass and re-pass at the time; afterwards, there were a great many, twenty or thirty.

Prisoner's defence. I have some witnesses I wish to be called; I have nothing to say, but I am very innocent; I never was charged with a crime of this sort, nor any other.

Jury. (To Mrs. Plater). Q. Did you feel the hand of the woman in your pocket? - A. I felt it against my body, I don't know whether it was in my pocket or no.

Jury. Q. There was another man passed you after the robbery? - A. I don't know.

For the Prisoner.

  MARY WHITEHEAD sworn. - Examined by Mr. Jackson. I am servant to the prisoner, I have lived with her ten weeks.

Q. Do you remember Monday, the 14th of November? - A. Yes.

Q. In what state of health was your mistress on that day? - A. Very ill; she had been very ill some weeks before, but able to go out; but on that Monday she was never out of bed, but to have it made.

Q. Do you recollect the Sunday before the Monday; how was she that day? - A. Very ill.

Q. Was she out that day? - A. No.

Q. What was her situation on Monday? - A. In hysterics most of the day from fretting.

Q. Did your business lead you to be at home the greatest part of Monday? - A. The whole of the day.

Q. From six in the morning till ten at night, where was your mistress? - A. On the bed and on the sofa; she got up about five o'clock, and lay on the sofa, to have the bed made, and she was in bed the rest of the evening.

Q. What were her circumstances at that time? - A. Very low indeed; on the Thursday before she was taken up, I was obliged to pawn a petticoat for her subsistence; and a gown on Tuesday, and a petticoat on Monday; from want of fire to keep them warm, she was obliged to lie in bed, and have her child in bed; she was in the utmost distress through want and illness.

Q. Did you see any thing about her chambers of guineas, or a purse, all that week? - A. No; we were quite in want.

Cross-examined by Mr. Gurney. Q. What way of life is your mistress in? - A. She keeps company, she lives in Wharton's court, Holborn, and before that, lived in George-street.

Q. What was your mistress's illness? - A. A cold; she was in a sponging-house and got cold, and was very ill.

Q. On this day she had hysterics the greatest part of the day? - A. Yes; for fear of the bailiffs.

Q. Had she been in fits any day before that? - A. I don't know that she had, but she was in a very low way.

Q. Has she been in fits any other day after that? - A. I don't know that she was; on the Saturday night, the bailiffs were at the door, and the fear and dread she was in was the cause of the hysterics.

Q. On the Saturday she was out? - A. I will not charge my memory with that, as I was doing my business.

Q. How long before had she been out? - A. I believe not from the Friday.

Q. As she was ill, I suppose she had some Apothecary attending her? - A. No; her circumstances would not allow it.

Q. Who is the person that keeps the house? - A. Jane Massey.

Q. Is she married or single? - A. Married; her husband's name is Thomas Massey, he works at a shop, in Fox's court.

Q. Was Mrs Massey in the room any part of that day? - A. Yes; she was in the room several times in the day, I cannot say what hour.

Q. Any time in the forenoon? - A. I cannot say.

Q. Was she there any time in the evening? - A. Yes.

Q. Yes! - I thought you would remember that; was she there after seven o'clock? - A. Yes; she was there before that.

Q. Did you see her there after your tea-time? - A. I believe she was in and out; she was there at six o'clock, and again before we went to bed.

Q. What time did your mistress go to bed? - A. My mistress was not up the whole day more than a quarter of an hour.

Q. Mrs. Massey was there after your mistress went to bed? - A. Yes, she was.

Q. Was she there after seven o'clock? - A. Yes.

Q. Was there any other person there? - A. Yes; Mrs. Massey's sister,   Phillis Stevens , who is servant to her.

Q. Did she see your mistress several times in the day? - A. Yes.

Q. Was she there in the evening? - A. I cannot say.

Q. Was she there after six o'clock? - A. Several times.

Q. Was there any other person in the room during the day? - A. Yes; Ann Ireland, who is a little girl out of place.

Q. What time was she in the room? - A. She sat in the room while my mistress was up; she was in and out of our room several times.

Q. Was there any other person in the room? - A. Deodatus Brown, he is hair-dresser to my mistress, he has dressed her for some months; he came in about six o'clock to enquire after her health, as he had not dressed her for some time; my mistress asked him to stop and play at cards with the child, and he staid till ten at night.

Q. He supped with you, I suppose? - A. We had no supper to give him.

Q. What did he neither eat nor drink all that time? - A. No.

Q. After this you pawned some cloaths? - A. Yes; I pawned a petticoat on Monday, a gown on Tuesday, and another petticoat on the Thursday, for half-a-crown.

Q. Did you pawn a cloak and hat? - A. She had none to pawn, I had pawned them the week before.

Q. She went out on Friday, did she go out without a hat and cloak? - A. No; she borrowed a black beaver hat of Mrs. Massey.

Q. What makes you so remarkably to recollect this Monday? - A. On account of my mistress's illness.

Q. She was ill on Tuesday? - A. She was more ill on Monday; on the Sunday she was asked down to dinner with Mrs. Massey, she was taken so ill, she could eat none, and went up again into her room; on Monday morning, I found her in tears, and she went into sits.

Mr. Jackson. Q. Were those fits struggling or fainting fits? - A. Fainting fits.

Q. When you mentioned hysteric fits, did you mean such as you have now described, fainting fits? - A. Yes.

Court. Q. You were in total want all the week? - A. Yes.

Q. And yet you continued with her? - A. Yes.

Q. You had no dinner on the Monday? - A. My mistress was low in pocket and health too; she was afraid of the bailiffs, and could not go out to do her business.

Q. How came you to recollect this Monday? - A. From my mistress's illness.

Q. How long had she been ill? - A. I cannot say; on the Monday, when I went in, she was in tears.

Q. What did you give her in her sits? - A. Hartshorn and water.

Q. Was that the first time you ever saw her in that way? - A. I cannot say it was; I have often seen her in a low way.

Q. What age is her child? - A. Eight years of age; I left him with her while I went for the hartshorn.

Q. What time in the morning was that? - A. About eight.

Q. Had she no friend with her? - A. None at all.

Q. Did not you give something to this Deodatus Brown? - A. No.

Q. He was one of the party at cards? - A. Yes.

Q. He had nothing to eat? - A. No.

Q. And you had nothing to eat that day but bread and cheese? - A. No.

Q. How long have you lived with her? - A. Ten weeks.

Q. What nourishment had your mistress on the Monday? - A. I made her some panado and some sago.

Q. Who was present when you made her the panado and sago? - A. Nobody but me and the child; (some duplicates shown her by Mr. Jackson;) these are the duplicates which I had for the things I pawned.

Q. Where did you pawn them? - A. In Fox's-court, Galley, I think, the name is; I pawned them in the name of Brown; sometimes I pawn them in the name of Murray.

Q. Your mistress had no hat and cloak? - A. No, she had none.

Q. How came you to pawn a hat and cloak? - A. I did not pawn a hat and cloak.

JANE MASSEY sworn. - Examined by Mr. Jackson. Q. You keep a house in Wha ton's-court? - A. Yes; my husband is a mathematical instrument maker; the prisoner lived with me a fortnight and a day before she was taken up.

Q. What was the state of her health? - A. She was very ill.

Q. How was she on the Sunday? - A. She was down to dine with me, and was taken very ill and obliged to go up stairs.

Q. On the Monday? - A. Very ill; I was up in her room at three o'clock, and again at six or seven, between six and seven, or near seven.

Q. Was she then in a state of body to go into the street? - A. No; she was hardly able to set up on Sunday; she was worse on the Monday, and was in bed all day, except to have her bed made.

  Q. What lodgers have you in your house? - A. A man, Ann Ireland, a girl out of place, Mrs. Murray, and   Mary Whitehead , who lives in the back garret, who is servant to Mrs. Murray.

Cross-examined by Mr. Gurney. Q. She had not been out for a week before this? - A. The last night she was out was the Saturday before this Monday; she went out to get some apples in the evening.

Q. When was she out before the Saturday; was the out on the Friday? - A. She might, I don't know.

Q. On the Thursday? - A. I don't think she was, she was so ill.

Q. Do you believe she was out on Thursday or Friday? - A. I believe not, I don't know.

Q. To the best of your belief, she was not out any day except Saturday? - A. I don't think she was.

Q. When she did go out, she used to go out in an evening; how was she dressed when she went out? - A. When she first came, she had a dark gown and coat, or apron; she borrowed a black beaver hat of me all the time she was there.

Q. Did she borrow it of you in the course of that week? - A. She had it always in her room.

Q. Did she wear that hat on the Saturday? - A. Yes.

Q. On the Sunday she was taken ill at dinner, and was worse on the Monday? - A. Yes.

Q. Was she up when you were there on Monday, about seven o'clock? - A. I was not in the room; I know she was in bed; the servant said, she was going to get her up; my sister went up for the mug between six and seven.

Q. Was your husband up there that evening? - A. No; he don't leave work till nine o'clock.

Q. Did the servant call you up any part of the day on Monday? - A. She said, she was very ill; I was not up; I sent up a bottle of salts.

Q. She did not go for any hartshorn? - A. Yes; I believe Mary Ireland went for the hartshorn; I don't know whether it was her or the servant.

Q. Was there any other person up there in the course of the day? - A. Yes; there was a man went up to dress Mrs. Murray's hair; I believe he drank tea with the maid and the child; I don't know that he did; he played at cards with the child.

Q. Was he there when you went up? - A. He was just gone when I went up.

Q. That was about seven o'clock? - A. Yes.

Q. How soon was she recovered to go out after this? - A. She was never out of the room till she was taken up.

Q. Had she any visitors in the course of the week? - A. No.

Q. You lent her her your beaver hat to go out on the Saturday; to your knowledge she had neither hat or bonnet? - A. No; she came in a black hat she had borrowed; that she had sent home.

Q. When she was taken up, what was the state of her health? - A. She was very ill.

Q. Did you hear any thing of bailffs the Saturday before the Sunday? - A. She was afraid of being arrested.

Q. What is she? - A. She took my lodgings, as a widow; she brought a little boy, and took the room to receive company.

Q. How did she subsist? - A. Things were continually pawning.

Court. Q. She took the lodgings as a widow-woman, for the purpose of receiving company? - A. Yes.

Q. You let your lodgings for this purpose? - A. Yes; I let her the first floor.

Q. At what price? - A. At half-a-guinea a week.

Q. She was very poor? - A. Yes.

Q. She had not even fire in either room? - A. No; she had the use of my fire sometimes to boil any thing; I believe on the Monday she boiled the kettle for breakfast.

Q. To your recollection, she boiled nothing that day but the kettle in the morning? - A. No.

Q. She had no sago or panado? - A. Nothing of that kind.

Q. If she had, it must have been dressed at your fire? - A. Yes; she might use the fire sometimes when I was out; I go out sometimes to mangle.

Q. Where is the mangle you go to; - A. At Mr. Allen's.

Q. Do you mean to say she might cook at your fire, without your knowing of it? - A. I was not out of the room that day above half an hour at a stretch.

PHILLIS STEVENS sworn. - Examined by Mr. Jackson. I am sister to Mrs. Massey, and live with her as servant.

Q. How long had the prisoner been at your house? - A. A fortnight and a day.

Q. What was the general state of her health? - A. Very poorly indeed.

Q. How was she on the Saturday? - A. She went out on Saturday to market to buy some apples; on the Sunday she was very ill indeed; she came down to dinner with my mistress; before she had done, she was so ill, she was forced to go up stairs; I saw her again in the evening, about seven or eight o'clock; she was then very poorly indeed.

Court. Q. What did she eat on the Sunday? - A. We had leg of pork and apple-pudding.

Q. Which did she eat? - A. Both, I believe.

Q. How soon after dinner did she go up stairs? - A. Before she had done dinner.

Q. How came she to go up stairs, she had eaten of both? - A. Because she was very poorly.

Q. You had all of you dined? - A. We had not quite done.

Q. Who was the last? - A. I don't know.

Q. Had not you done? - A. I had done.

Q. Had your mistress quite done? - A. I don't know.

Q. Mrs. Murray had quite done? - A. Yes.

Q. Who else were there? - A. My brother and Mrs. Murray's son.

Q. Had she taken any thing amiss that she went up stairs? - A. Not that I know of.

Q. Where did the maid dine that day? - A. Below stairs; she had some leg of pork and apple-pudding.

Q. Where did she dine on the Monday? - A. Up stairs.

Q. What had she? - A. I don't know; the servant fetched it.

Q. Where was it dressed? - A. Up stairs, in the dining-room.

Q. They generally dressed their dinners in the dining-room? - A. Yes.

Q. You are sure it was dressed in the dining-room on the Monday? - A. Yes.

Q. Was it boiled or roasted? - A. I don't know.

Q. Did not you see the maid bring it in? - A. No; she has the key of the street-door; I saw her bring something in in her apron.

Q. How much? - A. About two or three pounds, I suppose.

Q. You are sure it was dressed on the Monday? A. Yes.

Q. Who finds them in coals? - A. They find their own coals.

Q. They never dress at your fire? - A. No.

Q. As they have a fire up stairs, they boil their kettle up stairs? - A. Always up stairs.

Q. How was the leg of pork dressed? - A. It was roasted.

Q. At your own fire? - A. Yes.

Mr. Jackson. Q. On Sunday she went up stairs into her own room? - A. Yes.

Q. How was she on the Monday? - A. Very ill; I was in her room about one o'clock; I was in again about five or six, she was very poorly, indeed; I was up again about seven or eight, she was then on the sofa, the maid was making the bed;

I was up again about nine o'clock, and she was in bed.

Q. Deodatus Brown was there then? - A. Yes; playing at cards with the child.

Q. You say, the maid lets herself out - did you see her bring in any meat on the Monday? - A. I know she went out for something for dinner; I saw her bring something in, in her lap.

Q. How did you know she was going out for something for dinner? - A. She told me so; she said, she was going out to buy something for herself and the child.

Q. You saw something in her lap, was it meat, or bread and cheese? - A. It was meat.

Q. You did not see it? - A. No.

Q. She had access to your fire sometimes, had not she? - A. No.

Q. How was Mrs. Murray's health after the Monday? - A. Very poorly, she was never out of the room, till the gentlemen came and took her.

Cross-examined by Mr. Gurney. Q. There was a man there in the evening? - A. Yes.

Q. What time did he come? - A. About six, I believe.

Q. You saw him there till near ten? - A. Yes.

Q. He drank tea with Mrs. Murray? - A. Yes.

Q. You have been asked how you came to know this was meat that she brought in, why the servant told you it was meat? - A. Yes.

Mr. Jackson. Q. Mary Whitebread said, she was going for something for dinner? - A. Yes.

Court. Q. When she came home, she said, she had got meat? - A. Yes.

  MARY IRELAND sworn. - Examined by Mr. Jackson. I live in Mrs. Massey's house, being out of place.

Q. Do you know the prisoner? - A. Yes, by her lodging at the same house, I have been there a month last Tuesday.

Q. What was the general state of Mrs. Murray's health? - A. Very ill.

Q. Do you remember, about the 12th, 13th, and 14th of November - do you know how she was on the Saturday? - A. Very poorly.

Q. How was she on the Sunday? - A. She was down at dinner with Mrs. Massey.

Q. Were you down with them? - A. Yes.

Q. Who dined with you? - A. Mr. Massey, Mrs. Massey, her sister, and Mrs. Murray.

Q. Who else? - A. Mrs. Brown, and Mrs. Murray's servant.

Q. Who do you mean by Mrs. Browne? - A. Deodatus Brown's wife.

Q. Where was he that day? - A. I don't know, I am sure.

Q. You all eat of the pork? - A. Yes.

Q. What else had you? - A. Apple pudding.

Q. The servant did not dine in the kitchen? - A. No; she dined with us.

Q. What is her name? - A. Mrs. Whitehead.

Q. Are Mrs. Brown and Mrs. Whitehead two people? - A. Yes.

Q. Do you mean to say, that Mrs. Brown, and Whitehead are not the same person? - A. It is the same person.

Q. What is her real name? - A. Whitehead; she does not live with her husband now.

Q. How came you to say Mrs. Brown and Mrs. Whitehead both dined there? - A. I was thinking of Mr. Brown, they generally call her that - Mrs. Brown.

Q. You mentioned both; do you mean Mrs. Browne and Mrs. Whitehead are the same person? - A. Yes.

Q. How long was Mrs. Murray at the table on Sunday? - A. We had not near done dinner when she was taken ill, and taken up into her own room.

Q. Did you see her again that evening? - A. Yes; I went up in the evening to see how she did, and she was very bad then; I saw her that evening about ten o'clock, she was very ill; I was up about seven o'clock in the morning, and went and asked her how she was, she was very poorly then.

Q. Did you see her again in the course of the day? - A. Yes; I was there almost every quarter of an hour, she was taken a great deal worse after breakfast.

Q. Were you there in the evening? - A. Yes; from about six till seven, she was very bad, she was not up then; about nine o'clock, I was with her, the servant was making the bed, and she lay on the sofa, with a counterpane over her; I was by the side of her, she was very ill, then she went to bed in about five minutes after.

Q. Did you see her after that? - A. Yes, I went to ask her how she was; when I went to bed, about half after ten, she was very ill then, and was not out of bed till the men came to take her.

Q. Was she out on the Saturday? - A. I believe she was.

Q. How was she dressed, what hat had she? - A. A beaver hat.

Q. Whose hat was it? - A. Her landlady's.

Q. You never saw a hat of her own? - A. No; only a black bonnet that went to the milliners to be made up.

Q. Was she out of her room on the Monday? - A. No.

Court. Q. What are you? - A. A servant out of place.

Q. Do you know what house you are in? - A. Mrs. Massey's.

Q. She lets lodgings to unfortunate women? - A. Yes, I know her; we were brought up together.

Q. What had you for dinner on Monday? - A. A leg of pork.

Q. What had Mrs. Murray for dinner? - A. Nothing at all.

Q. She had no one thing, not even a dish of tea? - A. Yes.

Q. But that was only in the morning? - A. I don't know.

Q. Where did the maid dine? - A. She had her dinner up stairs.

Q. What had she for dinner? - A. I don't know.

Q. There was a fire in the dining-room? - A. Yes; I believe there was.

Q. Where did the child dine that day? - A. Down stairs along with the landlady.

Q. Where did Deodatus Brown drink tea on the Monday? - A. Up stairs.

Q. Did you drink tea with him? - A. No; Mrs. Whitehead drank tea with him.

Q. Where did they boil the kettle? - A. In the dining-room.

Q. How long did he stay there? - A. I don't know; I saw him there at eight o'clock; he came again afterwards, and staid till half after nine.

Q. He staid supper? - A. Yes.

Q. What had they for supper? - A. I don't know.

Q. They had a pint of beer, had not they? - A. Yes; Mr. Brown sent for it himself.

Q. You are a servant out of place? - A. Yes.

Q. How long have you been out of place? - A. A month.

Q. Where did you live last? - A. At Pleasant-place, Pentonville, with captain Rutley; I lived with him ten years, he is gone abroad, my mistress lives there now.

Court. Q. What age are you? - A. Twenty-seven.

Mr. Jackson. Q. Did you see any supper on the Monday? - A. I did not.

Mr. Gurney. Q. When did you live in Northampton-street, Clerkenwell? - A. Never.

DEODATUS BROWN sworn. - Examined by Mr. Jackson. I am a hair-dresser, I dress Mrs Murray's hair.

Q. You called at Wharton's-court? - A. Yes.

Q. While she was at Wharton's-court, what was the state of her health? - A. She was very poorly; I called on the Saturday, she was very poorly; I asked her if she would have her hair dressed to-morrow; she said, no, as she was ill, and her apparel would not allow it; I called on Sunday, and she was very ill; I called on the Monday, about six or seven o'clock, she was sitting up on the sofa very ill, I staid there two hours I suppose; she said, as she was so ill, will you stop and indulge the child with a game of cards; I played an hour and an half, or two hours.

Q. What time did you go from Mrs. Murray's? - A. About half after nine in the evening, it was a very dirty night; I said, I might as well stop and indulge George, as I had nothing to do; I staid there, and she laid down again.

Court. Q. Where do you live? - A. No. 5, the Bird-in-hand-court, Long-acre.

Q. Have you any connection with the family? - A. No.

Q. Are you a married man? - A. No.

Q. Were you never married? - A. No.

Q. Do you know Mary Whitehead? - A. Yes.

Q. How came she to go by your name? - A. Because she lived with me as a wife; I never was married.

Q. You have drank tea with her since? - A. Yes; I drank tea with her that evening at Mrs. Murray's.

Q. You don't live together now? - A. No; business failed, and she went out to service.

Q. You did not dine with her that day? - A. No; I don't know that she had any dinner, from her distress.

Q. Had you any supper that night? - A. No; nothing but tea.

Q. It is not true then that you sent for a pint of beer? - A. Not to my knowledge.

Q. If any body says so, they say that that is not true? - A. I don't know that I had any porter.

Q. If any body has sworn so, they have sworn that which is false? - A. God Almighty knows; I don't recollect having the porter.

Q. If Mary Ireland has said you had a pint of porter for supper it is not true? - A. I don't know that I had a pint of porter.

Q. You had tea, where was the kettle boiled? - A. I don't know; I don't know that there was a fire, there might be a fire.

Q. Where did Mrs. Murray drink tea? - A. They had had their tea, and asked me to have some tea.

Q. You don't recollect having the pint of porter? - A. As to the porter, I might have it, I don't recollect.

Cross-examined by Mr. Gurney. Q. If any body has said you had bread and cheese for supper that is not true? - A. I don't recollect having any bread and cheese.

Q. Will you swear you had not bread and cheese? - A. Upon my oath I don't recollect I had bread and cheese, nor porter. NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.