SAMUEL EDWARDS.
20th February 1793
Reference Numbert17930220-57
VerdictNot Guilty

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252. SAMUEL EDWARDS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 18th of January , one quart pot, value 12 d. four pint pots, value 2 s. the goods of John Prosser .

JOHN PROSSER sworn.

I keep the sign of the Ship, in Gray's Inn-lane ; I did not see the prisoner take the pots, I never saw the pots after they were taken away; I sent my boy out at the hour of four o'clock, on Friday the 18th of January; his name is Lewis Morgan , and he returned to me without his pots; as soon as I found my pots were lost, I repaired to the prisoner's father's house, who lives in the same lane, Gray's Inn-lane; I saw the prisoner there, and I laid hold of him; and I told him he had stole my pots, I laid hold of the button of his coat, saying I must, take him to a justice to answer for what he had committed; he immediately drew back and drew a knife on me; I went immediately to the Rotation-office in Hatton-garden to get an officer.

Q. What sort of a knife? - A clasped knife, the officer has got it; on his drawing his knife I drew back; and went to Hatton-garden to the police, and brought Robert Smith the officer with me, when we came back to the house we went in, he drew his knife again on the officer, the officer as he advanced desired him to shut his knife; on his non-compliance the officer wounded him in the hand with his hanger; he then told the officer he would shut his knife, and the officer took him; and then we took him to the Rotation-office, and as soon as we got into the street, he gave me a knock down blow in the street.

Prisoner's Counsel. Was he sober? - He may be in liquor, but he was not drunk.

Q. He certainly was not sober? - He may or may not be.

Q. You say he was in liquor? - He might, I don't know that he was or was not.

HENRY CARPENTER

Prisoner's Counsel. How old are you? - Going of eleven.

Q. You have been at school I suppose? - No.

Q. Do you know the nature of an oath? - No.

Prisoner's Counsel. Go down then.

Court. Have you never been told what will become of you if you tell a story? - Go to the Devil.

Q. If you swear what is false what will become of you? - Go to the Devil.

sworn.

My uncle is an hair-dresser, I live with my uncle, he lives in Gray's Inn-lane No. 18, I have seen the prisoner at the corner of our court at the public house; I was going for two sixpences for a shilling.

Q. What do you call your court? - Charlotta Buildings.

Q. Do you recollect the day of the week? - I do not.

Q. The day of the month? - I do not.

Q. Do you recollect how long ago it must be? - I do not. I saw the prisoner at the top of Charlotta Buildings, it was after dinner.

Q. What time do you dine generally, one or two? - It was almost four, I saw the pots in the prisoner's hand, I took notice of the handle, there was P. I. A. on them.

Q. Were they quart pots or pint pots? - I did not take notice what pots they were.

Q. Did you see him take them? - No, he had them in his hand, he went into the public house with them the corner of Charlotta Buildings, he did not stay above five or ten minutes; and then I saw him go down the court.

Q. Did he bring the pots out with him? - I don't know, I saw him with something under his arm in a blue apron, when he went in he had them in his hand on a leather strap.

Q. Was the blue apron on before him or was it loose in his hand when he came out? - He had it under his arm; he had never an apron on when he went in.

Q. Did it appear flat or bulky? - quite bulky under his arm.

Q. Did you give any account of this to any body? - Yes, I told it to our lodger up in the garret, Mr. Burton thought it was very odd he should go out instead of the pot boy with the pots, and I took notice of the pots, P. I. A.

Prisoner's Counsel. Where did you see these three letters; where was you? - He was going in at the door.

Q. Was there any lamps light? - No.

Q. Was it light or dark? - It was lightish at that time.

Q. You don't know what pots they were? - They were pint pots or quart pots.

Court. Do you know how many they were? - I don't know; he had them in his hand.

LEWIS MORGAN sworn.

I am pot boy at the sign of the Ship Gray's Inn-lane, Mr. Prosser's; I left five pewter pots four pints and a quart, I left them at No. 18, the corner of Charlotta Buildings; I left them in a passage at four o'clock on Friday the 15th of January, I left the pots while I went up stairs, and I was not up above two minutes, and came down; and the pots were gone.

Q. Did you never know who took them? - No.

Q. Did you ever see them since? - No.

Q. Did you tell your master of it? - Yes, I went home directly.

Prisoner's Counsel. What pots do you say you lost? - Four pints and a pot.

Q. Is that the account you gave before the magistrate? - It is.

Q. The examination stands, that you swore before the magistrate that you lost two pewter quart pots and three pewter pint pots.

Court. You find suggested to you, that on the examination before the magistrate you said that there were three pint pots and two quart pots; which do

you mean to say was left? - Four pint pots and one quart pot.

Q. Are you sure that before the magistrate you gave the same account? - Yes, I did.

Prisoner's Counsel to Prosecutor. Was you with the boy when he was examined before the magistrate? - I was.

Q. Did you see him write his name? - I did.

Q. Did you see the magistrate sign this paper? - It was handed to him.

Q. Was it read over to Morgan? - It was.

Q. What account did the boy give? - The boy always told me four pints and one quart from the beginning.

Q. What did you hear him say at the magistrates? - I cannot upon my oath call to mind; the boy being a country boy was a little shagreened at going before a magistrate never having been before one before.

Court to Henry Carpenter . What public house did the man go in with the pots? - The Pheasant's.

Q. How far was that from Mr. Prosser's? - Mr. Prosser's is in the same street higher up to Holborn, not above two hundred yards.

Court to Morgan. Can you read? - Yes.

Q. Do you know what was written on the pots that you lost; J for John, and Prosser at full length, the sign of the Ship Gray's Inn-lane.

Q. Was there any letters? - Yes, I. P. A. on the handle.

Prisoner. I was going in to have a pint of beer at my father's house, with that my father said Mr. Prosser thinks you have got some pots; Mr. Prosser came in a passion, and I told him not to use me ill; I would go with him if he would get an officer, he used me very ill in the street.

The prisoner called witnesses who gave him a good character.

Not GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.


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