25th February 1789
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186. JAMES JOINER was indicted, for feloniously assaulting John Ray , on on the King's Highway, on the 12th of February , putting him in fear and feloniously taking from his person, and against his will, a silver watch, value 5 l. 5 s. a hair chain, value 1 d. a steel key, value 1 d. a stone seal set in silver, value 3 s. and one guinea and 15 s. his property .

JOHN WRAY sworn.

I am a gentleman's servant out of place; on the 12th of February last, coming from Ealing , this said person met me; he stopped me about half after four in the afternoon; he put a pistol to my breast, and said your money, if you do not deliver it, I will shoot you; I delivered my money to him, which was a guinea, and fifteen shillings in silver; then he demanded my watch, which was a silver one, and I gave it to him; there was a hair chain, and a silver seal with a cornelian stone, and my name, J. W. on it; after I delivered him my property, I said I was a servant out of place, and he had taken all I had got; then says he, here is half a crown for you, and he gave me half a crown back; then he said now you walk behind me, and he made me walk behind him a hundred yards or more; after that, he said now you may go about your business; and just

as we were parting, he said if you will call at the angel in Hammersmith in about three weeks, I will leave the value of the watch and what money I have taken from you, I said very well, I will call.

Court. Were you content he should go away with your property in this manner? - No; I was obliged to be content; I was not satisfied with it. I called at the angel the next day, and they did not know any thing of him; I was sent for to the public office, and saw the prisoner there. From the time the prisoner stopt me, till we parted, took up five minutes; I was much frightened; it was day-light; I am positive as to his person; I looked at him very often as we were walking together: directly I saw him at Bow-street; I was very positive as to the person; the constable of Brentford produced the watch. He stopt me about two hundred yards from Gunnersbury-house.


I keep the Coach and Horses in Sion-lane; I apprehended the prisoner about half past six, on the thirteenth of February, in consequence of something that passed between me and a Mr. Hull; he was passing my door, returning towards Brentford; I took him on the pavement; he was walking, and Mr. Hull following him; I sent for a constable, after I had had him in custody about a quarter of an hour, to search him; he took him to the Watch-house; and then we put him in a chaise, and brought him to the Public-office; he was there searched; on him was found some duplicates, a string and a seal, and a pistol-key; the watch was found at the Watch-house door of Isleworth, where he was taken to first.


I am a constable of Isleworth; I was sent for on the thirteenth of February, to take the prisoner into custody; I took him to the cage; I found a pistol on him at Mr. Wheeler's house, which I took out of his pocket; when I got him to the cage, I was going to search him, and he pulled a watch out of his pocket, and held it in his hand; I laid hold of his hand, and desired him to give it to me; he refused to give it to me; he said he had not robbed any body; and by force, I pulled it from him, and some part of the chain, which we broke in our struggling; I have had it in my custody ever since, and the watch.

(Watch and the piece of chain produced; and the watch deposed to by the prosecutor, who knew it by the maker's name, and No. 332.)

Prosecutor. This is the watch, but not the chain I had to it.


I am an officer belonging to Bow-street; when the prisoner was brought there, I searched him, and found this watch-chain in his pocket, and a pistol-key, and a quantity of gunpowder, a guinea and eightteen pence; I took him to the Watch-house; the prosecutor had given information at the office the night before; I believe he was brought to the office, about two hours after Wray gave the information, which was the night after he was robbed.

Wray. I was robbed on Thursday, the twelfth; I gave information the day after, which was Friday.

Shallard. It was on Saturday morning that the prisoner was examined.

(The watch-string and seal J. W. and bed-book, produced and deposed to by the prosecutor, which were found in the prisoner's pocket.)

JOHN HULL sworn.

I live at Twickenham; on the thirteenth of February, I saw the prisoner between the turnpike and Isleworth-town; between six and seven in the evening; it was on the foot-path, about a hundred yards beyond the turnpike.

Court. Then in consequence of something

that passed between him and you, you apprehended him? - Yes.

How soon? - Directly; he went towards the turnpike, and I followed him; I called out, stop him! and he was stopped just before I got to him; just as he got through the turnpike, he was taken by two or three gardening men; it was before seven; then they took him to Mr. Wheler's, and from thence he was taken to the Round-house; I saw a canvas bag, sixteen bullets, and a mould, taken out of his pocket, and a pistol; that is all I know.

Field. I took the pistol out of his pocket myself (produced); this is the pistol I took out of his pocket; it was not loaded; it appeared to have been lately let off. I saw Shallard take the key out of his pocket, after I took him to Bow-street.

Shallard. The key fits the pistol.

(The pistol-key produced, which fitted the pistol.)


I bought the watch of a travelling Jew; I gave two guineas for it, the same day I was taken. There was an old gentleman coming from Isleworth; I passed him, and asked him what o'clock it was; he had me taken up for a robbery: I am intirely innocent of the whole of it.

GUILTY , Death .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice GROSE.

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