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Old Bailey Proceedings, 14th January 1795.

THE WHOLE PROCEEDINGS ON THE KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON; AND ALSO The Gaol Delivery for the County of Middlesex; HELD AT JUSTICE HALL in the OLD BAILEY, On Wednesday the 14th of January 1795, and the following Days; Being the SECOND SESSION in the Mayoralty of The Right Hon. THOMAS SKINNER, Esq. LORD MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LONDON.

TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND BY MANOAH SIBLY, PROFESSOR OF SHORT-HAND, No. 35, Goswell-Street; And Published by Authority.


LONDON: Printed and published by HENRY FENWICK , No. 63, Snow Hill. Price TWO SHILLINGS.

THE WHOLE PROCEEDINGS ON THE KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY OF LONDON, &c.

BEFORE the Right Honourable THOMAS SKINNER , Esq. LORD MAYOR of the City of London: The Right Honourable Sir ARCHIBALD MACDONALD , Knt. Lord Chief Baron of His Majesty's Court of Exchequer: The Honourable Sir JOHN HEATH , Knt. one of the Justices of His Majesty's Court of King's Bench: Sir JOHN WIL-LIAM ROSE , Knt. Serjeant at Law, Recorder of the said City; and others His Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer of the CITY of LONDON, and Justices of Goal Delivery of NEWGATE, holden for the said City and County of MIDDLESEX.

London Jury.

Robert Southey ,

Charles Tyrrell ,

John Skelitow ,

John Vincent ,

Daniel Russell ,

Samuel Jones ,

Charles Russell ,

Robert French ,

William Sharp ,

Daniel Lock ,

William Dorrell ,

John Brookes .

First Middlesex Jury.

Hugh Wright ,

Lacy Punderson ,

Peter Taylor ,

Joseph Appleford ,

David Coutin ,

Charles Cooper ,

Launcelot Henry ,

John Maccord ,

Benjamin Skelton ,

William Pearson ,

Francis Brown ,

Samuel Wardle .

Second Middlesex Jury.

Edward Kitchen ,

Thomas Dawson ,

John Wherry ,

Walter Twaites ,

William Green ,

Edward Kent ,

Samuel Folger ,

John Francis ,

Benjamin Bond ,

Thomas Hayward ,

William Bridgeman ,

Richard Davis .

64. WILLIAM PATCH was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 16th of November , an iron axe with a wooden handle, value 1s. an iron hatchet with a wooden handle, value 1s. the goods of John Wright ; and a tin tea kettle, value 10d. the goods of a person unknown .


I am a labourer ; I know the prisoner; I see him in the morning he was taken, after he was taken to the watch-house. I am a watchman to Mr. Perry, in Blackwall-yard. I know no further than that he was taken with the things; I was out all that night watching.


I work at Blackwall-yard; I am a watchman.

Q. Where is this Blackwall-yard? - Down at Poplar, at Esq. Perry's.

Q. What have you to say against the prisoner? - I know him very well. I was coming home from Blackwall-yard to the house where I lodge, and there I catched him with these things in the garden; it was about nine o'clock.

Q. Where did you find the prisoner? - In Wright's garden.

Q. What is Mr. Wright? - He is a labouring man, a watchman in the yard; and the prisoner had these things on him, these two axes, and this tea kettle.

Q. One is an axe and the other is an hatchet? - Yes.

Q. How had he these things? - In his hand taking them through the door, he was coming out into the street when I catched him.

Q. Have you kept the things from that time to this? - Yes, I am sure these are the things.

Q. Did any thing pass between you? - I asked him what business he had with them? he said he was fuddled or else he should not have come down there.

Q. Did he appear fuddled? - I really cannot say whether he was drunk or sober, I don't justly know what he was.

Q. How did he appear to you? - He walked very well to the watch-house; we took him to the watch-house directly.

Q. Did Mr. Wright come to the watch-house that night? - No, not till the next morning; I went up with him.

Prisoner. What time of the night was I taken? - Nine o'clock, as near as possible.

Q. Why did not you find a bill against me last session at Hicks's Hall? I was turned out by proclamation.

Court. What day did this happen? - The 16th of October.

Q. Why was not he prosecuted in December last? - I know nothing at all about that.

Q. To Wright. You are likewise a watchman I understand? - Yes.

Q. You did not see this boy in your yard at all? - No, I did not.

Q.What time did you come home? - About six o'clock in the morning.

Q. Did you miss any property? - No, I did not.

Q. How came you to go to the watch-house? - Gibson came down with an officer, and told me I must appear against him.

Q. Where did you go on that information? - I went to the watch-house.

Q. Did you see these things there? - Yes.

Q. The axe and hatchet did they belong to you? - Yes, I bought the small one, and the large one was given me by the carpenter that works in the yard.

Q. Is there any name on it? - Not that I know of.

Q. How long had you had it? - Nine months; I know it by the handle; I can swear to the hatchet, because I bought it and put the handle in myself; it was broke off, and I put it in again afterwards.

Q. The tea kettle what do you say to that? - The tea kettle was left in the room by a person who had rented the room, and went to sea, and his wife died, and I let the room again, and the tea kettle remained there.

Q. Do you know the name of these these people? - The man's name was Benjamin Stocker .

Q. When did you last see him? - He went out in the Henry Dundas, and coming home he was prest.

Q. How long is it since you see him last? - I fancy it is about twenty months, I don't know but it may be two years since; the tea kettle was left in the room when his wife died.

Prisoner. I have nothing to say.

GUILTY, Of stealing to the value of 10d .

Imprisoned twelve months in the House of Correction and publickly whipped .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

65. PHILIP GIBSON was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of November , thirty-nine glass bottles containing Spilsbury's antiscorbutic drops, value 4l. and a wooden box, value 10d. the goods of Dorothy Spilsbury .

Indicted in a second Count for stealing the same goods, laying them to be the property of George Kember , John King , Samuel Hancock , and John Farley .

The case opened by Mr. Knapp.


Q. I believe you are shopman to Mrs. Spilsbury? - Yes.

Q. She is the proprietor of some antiscorbutic drops? - Yes.

Q. Do you remember packing up any bottles containing any of these drops? - Yes, thirty-nine bottle, on the 28th.

Q. Where did you pack them? - At the warehouse behind the house, Soho-square.

Q. Were they glass bottles? - Glass.

Q. Were they full of these antiscorbutic drops? - Yes, they were.

Q. What did you pack them up in? - A deal box.

Q. What were they packed up for? - To be sent into the country, to Newbury, in Berkshire, to Mr. Fuller.

Q. What did you do with this box? - I delivered it to our footman, his name is John Powell .

Q. What was the order to Powell? - To carry them to the Bell Savage, Ludgate hill, and there to have them booked.

Q.Have you seen that property since? - Yes.

Q. Do you know that property to be the same that you delivered to Powell? - Yes.

Q. And that is the property of Mrs. Spilsbury? - Yes.

Mr. Gurney. How do you know that to be the property of Mrs. Spilsbury? - I knew it again.

Q. By what mark did you know it again? - I knew it by the bottles when the box was opened, and Mrs. Spilsbury's hand writing upon them.

Q. These bottles are the sort of bottles you usually put up these drops in? - Yes.

Court. Had you put up any other box with the same number of bottles? - Not that day, in a former day I had.

Q.How long before? - The day before.

Q. Then I ask you by what mark you distinguish that from any other you pack up? - By the directions.

Q. Did you direct it? - No, Mrs. Spilsbury: but I see her direct it.

Mr. Knapp. Then you see Mrs. Spilsbury direct this box, you know her hand writing, and you know these to be the sort of bottles that Mrs. Spilsbury sent to her customers? - Yes.

Court. Was this parcel which you sent before, packed up in the same sort of box? - Yes.

Q. Then how do you know one box from another? - By the directions.

Q. Who wrote the directions on the box that was sent the day before? - Mrs. Spilsbury.

Q. Did the box that was sent the day before go to Newbury? - No.

Mr. Knapp. Do you recollect where that box went to? - I cannot say I do.

Q.Are you sure it did not go to Newbury? - I am positive it did not.

Mr. Gurney. Had you sent any to Newbury before that? - I might six months before, but not later.


Q. You are a footman to Mrs. Spilsbury? - Yes.

Q. Do you remember receiving any box from the last witness, Baker, on the 28th of November? - Yes.

Q. What did you do with that box? - I took it to the Bell Savage, at Ludgate hill, and booked it with a young man, his name is Fielding.


Q. You are book-keeper to the Bell Savage Inn? - Yes.

Q. Do you remember Powell, the last witness, coming with a box, and booking it, on the 28th of last November? - I remember the box coming; I recollect the box being directed to Fuller, Newbury; and I entered it down in the book, and I put it into the Newbury him, the Newbury parcel hole.


Q. You are porter to the Bell Savage inn? - Yes.

Q. Do you remember receiving any box, and what did you do with it? - I remember taking the box out of the hole and putting it on the counter, and I called out, and it was marked off, and I gave it to the coachman, who was in the hind part of the coach.

Q. Is that what you call the rumble tumble? - Yes, the basket, behind the coach.

Q. Do you recollect where it was directed to? - Yes, to Newbery, I do not recollect the name.

Q.Was it put in the rumble tumble? - The coachman was in the rumble tumble, and I gave it to him, and he put it in.


Q. You are the coachman of the Newbery coach? - Yes.

Q. Did you receive the box from the last witness? - Yes.

Q. How was it directed? - Fuller, Newbery.

Q. What did you do with it? - I put it in the rumble tumble.

Q. Did you drive off directly? - Yes, as soon as I got on my box.

Q. What next happened? - Nothing more till we came to the White Horse cellar, that might be almost ten minutes past six o'clock; then the waterman and one of Mr. Bolton's porters, brought this said man to me, with the said box that I put in the rumble tumble.

Court. You had not seen any thing of the prisoner in the mean time? - That was the first time I see the prisoner that morning, I had seen him many a time before.


Q. What are you? - I am a waterman of Charing-cross .

Q. Do you remember seeing the Newbery coach come by? - Yes, nearly about ten minutes past six.

Q. Do you remember seeing the prisoner? - I remember seeing him running after the coach that went on after the rate of eight miles an hour, I see somebody chuck a box out to him, and see him catch it with both his hands.

Q. From what part of the coach? - The rumble tumble.

Q. What did you do then? - I called Richard Day, a porter, to assist me, and ran after the prisoner.

Q. Did he ever get out of your sight? - No.

Q. Where did you take him? - Just by Northumber land house, about fifty or sixty yards from where I see him receive the box; we ran after him, and Day got before him, and took hold of the box; I asked him how he came by the box, and whether it was his property? he said it was; I said it was not, I see somebody chuck it out of the rumble tumble of the coach; says I, come along to the White Horse, and there we shall come up to the coach; Gibson said, come along; and we went along as far as St. James's-street very well, and he made a stop, and Gibson said to me, take this.

Q. What was it? - A guinea; he said to the other take this.

Q. Was that another guinea? - Yes. I asked what was that? the other said, what was that? he said a guinea a piece to say that you found the box; Richard Day catched Gibson fast by the collar of the coat, and the guinea dropped out of his hand, and I picked it up, and gave it up to the watch-house keeper when we came there.

Q. Had he any thing more about him? had he a box? - We took the box from him directly, and took the box and him to the White Horse cellar.

Q. Did you look at the direction? can you read? - I cannot; I shewed the box to the coachman, and asked him if he knew any thing about the box? he said he did.

Mr. Gurney. You are a waterman to a stand of coaches? - I was at that time.

Q. What had you been before? - A coachman many years, I lived at the Golden Cross before that.

Q. Where did you live before that? - At Mr. Dimsdale's, in Aldersgate-street, before that.

Q. Did you ever live at the Bull and Mouth? - Never.

Q. How came you to leave the Golden Cross? - Because the horses dropped short.

Q. And what are you a waterman now? - I am discharged from that place because of this business, and another man is put on, because I am obliged to be out of my business.

Q. You see a man throw this out; did you call out to any body? - The coachwas going on at the rate of eight miles an hour.

Q. Did you call out to the coachman? - I did not.

Q. You made no attempt to catch the man that was in the rumble tumble, but went after the prisoner? - Yes.

Q. You say that in St. James's-square the prisoner offered you a guinea each; now on your oath did not Day and you tell him that if he would give you two guineas each you would let him go, and he offered you one guinea each, and you would not, except he would give you two each? - No, I did not.

Mr. Knapp. You chose to go after the man that had the box, in preference to the one that was in the rumble tumble? - I could not see the other man, nor could not have made the coachman hear if I had called.


Q. You are porter to the Golden Cross? - Yes.

Q. Do you remember the Newbery coach coming by this day? - Yes, the 29th of November, within ten minutes of six, under or over.

Q. Do you remember Hicks there, the last witness? - Yes.

Q. Do you remember being called to him on any occasion? - Yes.

Q. What did you do? - I took a man against Northumberland house, with a box under his right arm.

Q. Who was that man? - Philip Gibson , the prisoner; I asked him whethe that was his property? he said it was, up came William Hicks, and said, no, it is not your property; Gibson said it was; Hicks said, let us go up, we shall overtake the coach at the White Horse cellar; we went on till we came to St. James's-square, there he made a stop, he said, here, take this; he gave the waterman a guinea first, and then he gave me a guinea, and I let mine fall, and the waterman picked it up: when we came up to the White Horse cellar there was the coachman putting more goods in the rumble tumble behind, and I gave him this property; I asked him if he knew it? he said he would swear to it; immediately we took him to the watch-house, and gave the constable charge of him.

Q. Did you ever lose sight of him till you delivered him up at the watch-house? - No.

Q. Did you offer him any money, or ever ask him for any money? - Never.

Mr. Gurney. Do you recollect asking him for two guineas, and he would not give you but one? - No, I do not, I asked him for nothing, I told him I would not have his money, and immediately catched him by the collar. and took him up to the White Horse cellar.


Q. You are a watchman? - I am, of Arundel-street.

Q. Had you the prisoner at the bar delivered to you on the 29th of November? - Yes, with a box.


Q. You are the watch-house keeper? - Yes.

Q. Do you remember the prisoner at the bar being brought to your watch-house? - Yes.

Q. Did you receive any thing with him? - I received this box.

Q. Who did you receive it from? - From Fair.

Q. Have you had that box in your custody ever since? - Yes.

Baker. This is the box, I saw Mrs. Spilfbury direct it, it is her property.

Q. To Record. What is your masters names? - George Kimber , John Farley, John King , and Samuel Hancock .

Mr. Gurney to Baker. What is Mrs. Spilsbury's christian name? - Dorothy Spilsbury .

Prisoner. In the morning that this happened, I was going as far a Hammersmith, about a house that I was going to take in St. George's-fields, Blackfriars-road; in the Strand as I was going there, I had occasion to cross, and I saw something lay in the middle of the road; I immediately ran towards it, and found it was the box in question; I picked it up, there were four or five people present, one or two will come forward; after I picked it up I returned towards the Strand, to a part where I saw some light, to read the direction, and before I got to the light I was taken in custody by these two men; they asked how I came by that box? and I told them I had picked it up, and they insisted on taking it from me; I said it was not theirs, they did not seem to claim any right that it was theirs, but they insisted on my coming to the coach, and when we came to St. James's-street, there they both stopped with me, and said, if I would give them two guineas, they would let me go about my business; but before that, going along, Hicks said, he would swear it come out of the rumble tumble; when we came to St. James's-square they said if I would give them two guineas a piece I might go, and I offered them a guinea a piece, and they would not without the two guineas, and I said I would not give two guineas; and they took me directly up to the White Horse cellar, and there was the coach that it came from.

Court to Record. Do you remember how you packed it in this basket? was there a possibility of its tumbling out? - It was impossible for it to tumble out, it was behind another box, stuck in edgeways.

Mr. Gurney. It must have shook a good deal coming along that way? - It could not have shaked out of its place, it was packed close, there was another box, a light box which was on it, that box was not taken, but there was a trunk taken at the same time, which we never found any thing of.

GUILTY . (Aged 35.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

69. WILLIAM COLLINGS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 8th of December , three womens duffield cloaks, value 30s. and four childrens cloth great coats, value 30s. the goods of John Barlow , in his dwelling-house .


Q. Do you know any thing happenpening to Mr. John Barlow's effects, on the 8th of December last? - Yes, I know that these effects I have in my hand, are John Barlow 's, these were purchased in the piece, and cut out from the piece, and made up into the articles they are now.

Q. What effects of Mr. Barlow's was it you first saw when the prisoner was taken? What is Mr. Barlow? - He is a silk mercer , I am his servant.

Q. Do you know of his losing any thing on the 8th of December last? - The property was taken before we knew of the loss, we lost three womens duffieldcloaks, and four childrens striped great coats.

Q. How do you know that he lost them? - I know they were lost, because they were missing from the place where they were usually put up.

Q. When had you seen them last, before you missed them? - I cannot say.

Q. Not even to a day or two? - No.

Q. Had you seen them a week before that? - We are very frequently selling these articles, and daily making application to them.

Q. Where did they usually lay in the shop? - They lay on the shelf.

Q. Having missed them on the 8th of December, where did you see them again? - I see them on the 8th of December, in the evening, in the passage of Mr. Barlow's house, a little way from the door, the outside of the door about seven o'clock.

Q. In what condition were they? - Loose laying on the ground, I took them up, brought them into the shop, and the man was brought in after them, the prisoner at the bar, from thence he was taken to the magistrate's.

Q. Who took him to the magistrate's? - The watchman and another or two took him to the magistrate's, I did not go with him, I followed him, and from thence he was committed. I was examined before the magistrate, and swore to the property being Mr. Barlow's, and after that Mr. Barlow was bound over to prosecute, and I to appear to swear to the property.

Q. Had you seen any thing of the prisoner before the goods were missing? - I had not to my knowledge.

Mr. Knowlys. At the time you received this alarm, I believe neither you, your master, or any body was attending in the shop, you had left it to take care of itself? - Not in that shop, a glass partition was between the two shops.

Q. I see they are the ordinary sort of goods? - They are.

Q. Perhaps you charge the selling price on them, you have put them at three pounds in the indictment, but, perhaps, you would not put them at above thirty-nine shillings, where a man's life is at stake? - They would fell for a deal more.

Q. But it is very hard to pay your profit with our lives.


I live directly opposite, I was standing at my own door, and I saw the prisoner coming out of Mr. Barlow's door, with these things under his arm.

Q. Where does he live? - No. 2, Lambeth passage . I immediately called our, and got assistance to stop him, and laid hold of him with the goods on him.

Q. What goods were they? - The goods in the indictment.

Q. What did you do with the goods? - The last witness, Mr. Page, took them in his possession, when we laid hold of him, he dropped them, and Mr. Page took them up, the prisoner was taken into Mr. Barlow's shop.

Q. Did you see any thing more of him afterwards? - Yes, before the justice.

Q. Was you continually in sight of him, from the time he was taken, till you saw him before the justice? - No, but I am sure he was the person.

Q. Was the prisoner the person that you laid hold of? - Yes, I am quite sure of that.

Mr. Knowlys to Page. Who is concerned in the business with Mr. Barlow? What partner has he? - None at all.

Court. Are these things, in that bag, those that were delivered to you by JohnJones? - I picked them up myself by the side of the prisoner.

Q. Have they been in your possession ever since? - They have. (Produces them.) They have the shop marks on them, which I put on them myself.

Mr. Knowlys to Jones. I believe you found out he had some respectable connections? - Really I don't know.

GUILTY, Of stealing to the value of 39s .(Aged 18.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

67. RANDAL SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of December , a canvas bag, value 1d. half a guinea and 2s. in monies numbered , the goods and monies of James Mackay .


I am in no business. I live at Deptford. On Monday the 8th of December, between the hours of five and six in the evening, I was going up the stairs of the two shillings gallery of the playhouse in Covent-garden , and on the stairs the prisoner at the bar, along with one or two more, I cannot justly say, they made one sally at my pocket before they got the money. I had my hand in the pocket where the money was, the left hand pocket. I said, you have no occasion to crowd so very much, it is time enough.

Q. What do you call making an attempt? - They tussled me and crowded me against the side of the stairs. The second time this Randal Smith he got one arm under my arm, lifted my arm up, and with the other hand he got the canvas bag out of my pocket; I am sure it was the prisoner. I collared him directly and I said, now I will hold you, and I held him till two men came and rescued him from me.

Q. Was there a good light? - Yes, and I held him two minutes, till somebody came and rescued him from me out of my hand.

Q. Are you sure it is the same? - I am. As soon as they took him out of my hands he ran down stairs, and I hallooed out stop thief, and a serjeant of the guards stopped him till I got down stairs.

Prisoner. I was up stairs on the right hand side, and he charged me with picking his pocket on the left hand side.

- HEWITT sworn.

I am a serjeant of the Coldstream regiment of guards. I was at the playhouse this evening, on Monday the 8th of December, I was serjeant of the guard; I was walking in the passage of the two shilling gallery, and I heard the hue and cry of stop thief, repeatedly; and I stood at the bottom of the stairs, thinking the first person that came down would be the aggressor, and the prisoner came down first, and as he came down he jumped off several stairs at once, running as hard as possible, and I catched hold of him; there were several after him. When I seized him by the collar he was very strong, and he struggled with me, and desired me not to keep him; for he asked me if he looked like a thief or pick-pocket? I told him I would detain him till such time as the person came down who had lost the property.

Court to Mackay. What was it you lost? - Half a guinea and some silver; the quantity I don't exactly know.

Q. When had you seen that half guinea before? - About half an hour before.

Q. Was it in any thing? - In a canvas bag. My pocket was hauled out.

Prisoner. That Mr. Mackay, my prosecutor, was on the left hand side, and I was on the right hand side of the stair case, going up, and he said, I had picked his pocket; I said, I did not know any thing about it. He might have had his pocket picked, I make no doubt, but I know nothing about it, I declare to God.

Jury. Was any bag found on the prisoner? - There was no bag found.

GUILTY . (Aged 55.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

68. THOMAS YEAMAN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 8th of January , thirteen ounces of souchong tea, value 2s. the goods of the East-India company .

The case opened by Mr. Knapp.


I am a labourer in the East-India company's warehouse, in Barker's-gardens; it lays between Whitechapel and the Minories .

Q. Do you know the prisoner at the bar? - Yes.

Q. Was he a labourer in your warehouse? - He was.

Q. Do you remember on the 8th of January his being in the warehouse? - Yes.

Q. Was he in the same room with you? - He was.

Q. Will you tell us what you know respecting any tea? - On Thursday morning last we all came together to work as usual; I suppose there may be eight in number. We worked on till breakfast time together, after breakfast the commodore acquainted us that we were to go round to a different part of the building to bring down goods. He ordered Thomas Yeaman and his partner to go to that part of the building to take some goods down from the pile of chests where they were piled up. He ordered me and my partner to stay behind to take them off the truck as they were brought round to us. They went round and could not get through, the doors were not unlocked, and so Thomas Yeaman and his partner staid behind till the doors were unlocked, and he came back to the room where we had been at work the former part of the morning. I was on the move to keep my feet warm, while the doors were being unlocked; presently I heard a rustling of paper or flags, that the tea is covered with.

Q. The chest is made of boards? - Yes, but this chest was open.

Q. And the tea is inclosed within side of the flags or paper? - Yes. I approached nearer to the found, and I suspected where it came from; instantly I heard Thomas Yeaman come towards me from the spot where I had heard the found.

Q. Did any thing pass between him and you? - No, he walked on to the farther part of the room, and quitted the room. I instantly went to the place where I suspected the noise to have been, whereas I found some of the tea wasspilled on the floor by the chest, at the end of the chest. This chest I had been mending the fore part of the morning.

Q. In what manner? - In putting a piece in at the end to prevent the tea tumbling out.

Q. You nailed it I suppose? - No, we put in the piece and then it was referred, we cut the dove tails and pushed it in.

Q. In putting in this piece at the side, do you recollect whether any tea was spilled at that time? - No, it was not, because I had heaped the tea on a heap, at the farther end, and pressed it down with my arm, and no tea could fall out. After the prisoner quitted the room I went and examined, and found the tea spilled on the floor; I examined my partner whether he had spilled any of the tea or no, and I pulled the paper off the chest of tea, and I found a hole in the tea different to what I left it.

Q. Could you discover from the appearance how much was gone out? - I did imagine in myself, as I told the commodore, there must be about a pound gone out. I communicated this to the commodore, and I reported it to the elder, and the elder ordered me to retire back to my work, at his request I did, and he went and got the King's locker.

Q. Do you recollect being sent for when the prisoner was taken up? - No, I was not.

Mr. Gurney. How long have you worked with the prisoner? - At different times for near a twelve month.

Q. I believe there are sometimes little differences amongst the men working there? - That I cannot say about, there was no difference between him and me.

Q. The prisoner has some enemies, has he not? - I cannot say that.

Q. You and he were working together in this large warehouse, what size is the warehouse? - A very large piece of building.

Q. You heard some noise like the rustling of the paper, or the rustling of leaves, and the prisoner was in that part where you heard the noise? - He was in that room.

Q. What was the size of that room? - Between fifty or sixty feet square.

Q. You don't know that he was in that part of the room where the rustling was? - He was in that room.

Q. The chest in which this tea was contained, was a chest out of repair? - It was.

Q. Consequently with any body's touching it, or shaking it, some tea would fall out? - It would not.

Q. You had been mending that chest, there was a piece out, you had not nailed it? - No, but it could not tumble out.

Q. Any little motion must naturally shake out some tea? - There was no motion could be made.

Q. If any accident had happened by shaking that chest, or any one in contact with it, some of the tea might have fell out, would it not? - It might if the chest had been moved.

Mr. Knapp. In point of fact, was there any tea spilled out of this chest? - Not that I know of.

Q. When you left it could any tea fall out? - In the state I left it I cannot imagine that there was any tea could fall out.


I am a locker in the East India warehouse. I am the person that found the tea on the prisoner.

Q. Did you take him into custody? - I went with the constable; I was the person that searched him, and found the tea on him.

Q.Where did you take him? - I tookhim in the third building, in that part of the warehouse in Middlesex.

Q. What did you find on him? - Thirteen ounces of tea in his right hand pocket, loose.

Q. Did he say any thing at that time? - At that time he said that some malicious person had done it, and when he came down to the counting house, he said to the elder that he had a large family.

Mr. Gurney. You attending this warehouse, perhaps you know whether it is not their custom to hang their coats up while they are at work? - It is.

Q. You don't happen know of your own knowledge whether he had hanged up his coat that morning? - I do not.

Q. If any man had the misfortune to have a malicious enemy in that warehouse, it was in the power of that enemy to put tea in his pocket? - Yes, that I believe.

Q. And when he was taken up he said some malicious person had done it? - He did.

- LANCASTER sworn.

Q. In what situation are you in this warehouse? - I am one of the elders.

Q. In consequence of some information you had given you, the prisoner at the bar was apprehended? - He was brought into the counting house where I was, and I saw the tea took out of his right hand coat pocket.

Q. What time of the day was this? - About eleven o'clock in the morning.

Q. What tea was it? - Souchong tea.

Q. Can you say it was the company's property or not? - I can swear it is like the souchong tea that was preparing for sale.

Mr. Gurney. When this was found in his pocket, he said some malicious person had done this trick? - No, he said before the Lord Mayor that he had no defence to make, but he must throw himself on his mercy.

Q. What did he say at the time the tea was found in his pocket? - He did not make any defence at all, and when the warehouse keeper came he had no defence to make, but begged we would consider his family.

Q.Was you in the room when he said some malicious person had done this? - That he said the second hearing before the Lord Mayor.

Q. Was you not present when he said this to Mr. Boon? - No, I did not hear it then.

Q. to Boon. Where was it the prisoner said that some malicious person had put it in his pocket? - In the third story; Mr. Lancaster was not there.

Mr. Gurney to Venning. Where was the warehouse situated, in the city of London or county of Middlesex? - I believe in the county of Middlesex.

Lancaster. I know it is in the county of Middlesex.

The prisoner called six witnesses who gave him an excellent character.

Prisoner. It is a cruel and unjust prosecution. In the chests there are no mats put in. I had been labouring in that room but it was two hours before that they found the tea on me; it was in an old coat that I work with in the warehouse, not the coat that I come out with, and I had an opportunity of putting it from me, two or three hours, if I had known it. I knew nothing about it; I believe there is a guinea reward in this case, and some person wanting to supersede me in this warehouse.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

69. MARY CLARKE was indicted for stealing, on the 2d of January , a cloth cloak, value 6s. the goods of Ann Nash .

ANN NASH sworn.

I do slop work ; make sailor's jackets and trowsers. I live at No. 28, George-yard, Whitechapel .

Q. Do you know the prisoner at the bar? - Yes.

Q. Did you know her before you lost your property? - Yes.

Q. What is she? - She did flop work when she pleased.

Q. Did she work with you? - Sometimes she did and sometimes she did not, she goes from one mistress to another when she pleases.

Q. What do you say about the cloth cloak? - This is it.

Q. Was she in your house or in your employment at the time you lost it? - She came into the house and asked me for a little work, the 2d of January, which was last Friday was a week, and she took my cloak away.

Q. Where was the cloak? - It was on a table just by the door. I happened to want to go to the warehouse and looked for the cloak, and instantly missed it. I was going to the warehouse that minute, to Mr. Darby's, in Gracechurch-street; I missed the cloak as soon as she was gone out of the room. I went after her instantly and catched her with it in her apron; I pulled her apron on one side and see my cloak, and I said, what a wicked hussey you are to take my cloak when you know how hard I work for my living, and she said it was none of my cloak, she had borrowed it. She knows it is my cloak very well, and I know it very well; the lining is tore.

Prisoner. She agreed to make it up with the officer for two shillings.

Prosecutrix. I told her I would not hurt her if I could any way help it; if I could any way get her off when I went before the justice, I would; and when I went before the justice I said, as long as I have got my cloak again, if you think proper, she may go about her business.

Prisoner. I borrowed the cloak of Mrs. Nash.

Prosecutrix. It is not true, indeed it is not.

GUILTY, Of stealing to the value of 10d .(Aged 46.)

Fined One Shilling .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

70. ELIZABETH EAVES otherwise BISHOP was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of October , a man's satin waistcoat, value 5s. a man's linen shirt, value 2s. and two flat irons, value 12d. the goods of John Lycet .


I am a coach-maker ; I live in Whitechapel . I know the things were taken out of pawn.

Q. When did you see them last before they were stole? - I suppose not for a month, they were kept in a drawer.

Q. Are you a married man? - Yes.

ANN LYCET sworn.

Q. When had you seen this property the last time before it was stole? - I had not seen it for some time. The waistcoat my husband very seldom wore it; I suppose I had not seen it for a month or five weeks.

Q. Who found the duplicates? - The patrol.

Q. Was the prisoner at the bar in your service? - Yes, but she had left the service about seven months.

Q. Did you miss these things after she left your service? - Yes.

Q. You did not examine her box when she left your service? - She had none.


I am a patrol; I took the prisoner in a house in Whitechapel, Mr. Shellard's, a stocking shop. I searched her at the watch-house, I found nothing then. The next day in the morning, I found two duplicates in the watch-house.

Q. Had there been any other prisoner there, besides the prisoner at the bar? - I cannot tell that.

Q. You found two duplicates there? - Yes, of two flat irons and a shirt.


I am a pawnbroker.

Q. Do you know the prisoner at the bar? - I cannot say positively; I have seen her at the shop more than once or twice; I cannot positively swear to her, that she pawned these things.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

71. ANN HAWKINS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 7th of January , a feather bed, value 20s. a flock and feather bolster, value 10d. two woollen blankets, value 3s. a linen sheet, value 2s. a linen counterpane, value 12d. a looking glass in a walnut-tree frame, value 4s. a pair of tongs, value 6d. a brass candlestick, value 6d. a wooden pail, value 6d. and a tin kettle, value 4d. the goods of Thomas Norwood , in a lodging room .


I live at Tabernacle walk, near Finsbury-square, Moorfields .

Q. Do you let lodgings? - Yes.

Q. Did you let any lodgings to the prisoner? - Yes, for three shillings per week.

Q. Did she take the lodging as a married woman, or as a single woman? - As a single woman.

Q. What lodging did you let to her? - A back parlour.

Q. Any thing else? - No, only the goods that I let with the parlour.

Q. Was there a bed in it? - Yes.

Q. Was it a single room? - Yes.

Q. Did you miss any of your furniture? - I missed the looking glass before I had her taken up, I suppose nine days.

Q. Do you recollect when she took the lodging? - No.

Q. How long had she been in your lodgings before you missed your things? - A month and nine days before I missed the last things. I did not suspect that she had taken any thing but the looking glass, till I had her taken up, and then all the articles were missed.

Q. Did she leave your house? - No.

Q. How do you know she took them? - I cannot say she took them, but she acknowledged it, and the duplicates were found on her by Slater the officer who took her. I missed a feather bed, a stock and feather bolster, two sheets (there is only one in the indictment,) a counterpane, pair of tongs, two blankets, a candlestick, and kettle.

Q. Were all these things let together with the chamber, to the prisoner? - Yes, at three shillings a week.

Q. How did she get her livelihood? - I never knew her to work at all.

Q. And do you take in women in this way? - She said, the first time she came that she could get a character from Guildhall, and she went, and she came back and said the person was not at home, and so I let it alone from day to day, and did not mind it afterwards, and she destroyed the things.


I am an officer of the parish of St. Leonard, Shoreditch. I apprehended the woman at the lodgings, at Norwood's house, on Wednesday last, I believe it was, Mr. Norwood came to me.

Q. Did you find any duplicates? - Yes, of all the property he lost, except the bed; I never had that duplicate at all.

Prisoner. Mr. Norwood said he would be contented to have his property again. I did not mean to leave my lodgings till I had replaced the things.

Slater. She acknowledged to me that she had pledged Mr. Norwood's things.

Prisoner. Mr. Norwood said if he had his things he should be satisfied.

Court to Norwood. Did you say you would not hurt her if you got your things? - I never said any such thing.

Slater. I believe Mr. Norwood did say that if he could get his property again he should be satisfied, and he did agree to make it up.


I am the pawnbroker.

Q. Do you know the prisoner at the bar? - Yes, she pawned some of these things, but I cannot take on me to say she pawned the whole, I can tell if I see the tickets, because they are of my writing; the tongs, the candlestick, the looking glass, and the bolster.

Q.What frame had the looking glass? - A walnut-tree frame.

Q.Was it a brass candlestick? - Yes, they are all here. (Produced.)

Norwood. They are mine.

Q. Were these the things that were let with the lodgings? - Yes.

Prisoner. Mr. Norwood knows that I did not mean to leave the lodgings, and his wife told me that she would be thoroughly satisfied if the things were replaced, that was all that she required, and Mr. Norwood would have made it up in the public house, but he was told it was too late.


I am one of the officers of the city and admiralty. I have known the prisoner at the bar for ten or a dozen years, living with a gentleman of my acquaintance, one Mr. Parr, at Hoxton, who died suddenly or he would have left her a legacy, I know he wished to provide for her; and I know a very capital tradesman in the city that kept her company for some years.

GUILTY . (Aged 27.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

72. MICHAEL LOVE was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of William Collett , about the hour of five in the night, on the 11th of December , and burglariously stealing therein, two silver watches, value 3l. a watch with a shagreen case, value 20s. a metal chain, value 9d. a metal seal, value 6d. a metal key, value 2d. a metal trinket called a globe, value 2d. a steel watch chain, value 6d. a metal trinket, value 1d. and a watch key, value 2d. the goods of the said William Collett .


I am the son of the prosecutor, William Collett , my father is dead, he died since the prosecution began; he was alive at the robbery.

Q.Where did he live? - He was a clock and watch maker at Uxbridge .

Q. Were these things stole before you went to bed or after? - Before. About five o'clock in the afternoon of the 11th of December.

Q. Was it perfectly dark? - It was quite dark.

Q.Was it so dark that out of doors you could not discern the features of a man's countenance? - I did not see any body in the street when I went out to the door.

Q. Did you observe when they were taken away? - I was in the kitchen adjoining the shop, at tea.

Q. How long had you left the shop before they were taken? - About half an hour.

Q. Was you alarmed with any noise? - Very great noise; the windows were broke, I took the candle and went into the shop.

Q. Then it was so dark you could not discover the features of a man's countenance, you are sure of that? - I am.

Q. Had you observed these watches before you went into the kitchen? - That same day I had put them up and took great notice of them.

Q. Where had you put them? - In the window, hung them up.

Q. And you know they were not taken down before they were stole? - I am sure they were not taken down.

Q. Did you miss them as soon as you went into the shop? - No, I did not miss them all till the Monday following.

Q. Did not you look that night at what property was gone? - I had a great many watches then at the window.

Q. Was the glass of the window broke? - Yes, two pancs of glass broke. I was certain there was something gone that evening, but I did not know what it was. That night I looked and I missed nothing but the guts of an old watch. As I was at work on Saturday I missed one of the watches; I happened to think of it, I recollected that I hung up such a watch in the window, on Thursday, and I never saw it when I took them down at night, and after that I missed another on Saturday, and the third I missed on Monday.

Q. How many did you miss in the whole? - Three, and the guts of another.

Q. And how many glasses? - I did not take particular notice.

Q. Were any one of the watches in a shagreen case? - Yes, there was one.

Q. Do you remember a metal seal? - Yes.

Q. You don't know the person who took them, any thing about him? - No.

Q. Do you know any thing about the property since? - The property is here in one of the witnesses hands.


I am a serjeant in the West Sussex militia. I know the prisoner at the bar, he is a private in the some company.

Q. What do you know about this robbery? - I found the watches in a barn, called Webb's barn, in the Cowley-road, abouts quarter of a mile from Uxbridge; they were buried in the diit. These things the witness went and shewed me where they were.

Q.Have you had them in your possession ever since? - No, I left the along with my landlord while I came by to London.

Q. How do you know they are the same? - Yes, I know they are the same.

Q. What notice did you take of them? how long were they in your landlord's hands? - Till I came back from London, about one day and night. I marked them before I gave them him.

Q.Have they the same marks now? - Yes.


I am a militia man; a private in the same company with the prisoner. The prisoner came to my house on Saturday night.

Q. Do you remember what Saturday night it was? - No, I cannot give an account of that.

Q. Do you recollect how long ago? - I have been in prison three weeks. About a month ago.

Q. Are you an accomplice? Did you go with him? - Yes. He came down to my house on Saturday night for his shirt; my wife used to wash for him, he came for his shirt to put on a Sunday, he had a watch in his pocket. I said to him, you have a watch in your pocket; he said he had, he could fell me one, with that I asked him to let me look at it; in consequence of which he brought down to me on the Sunday following a green shagreen case watch.

Q. Should you know it again if you was to see it? - I did not take any particular notice. (Shewn the shagreen case watch.) This is very much like it.

Q. Do you believe it to be like it? - Yes, I do. After he brought it down on Sunday. I did not like it, with that he made answer and said, I have got another, with that he fetched the other down, which I looked at; I made answer and said, sure enough, you have not stole them? you could not come by them honestly. Honestly, says he, what do you mean by that? I should not have thought of that; with that he left them at my house on Sunday for me to take my choice, if I was a mind to have them; they were there on Sunday, and on Monday night when I told him I would not have any thing to do with them, I was afraid he did not come honestly by them. On Tuesday I told him to come down and take them away, they should not be there; with that he came down and seemed very uneasy, with that he takes them and says, I will go and hide them; with that I walks along with him down to the barn, about a quarter of a mile from town, which he went in and asked me to lend him my bavonet, which he took from my scabbard, and scrapes a hole and buried them, and says, they would not be found there.

Q. Do you know the road to Cowley? was it in that part particular? - Yes, it was on the left hand side.

Q. Was it in West's barn? - Yes.

Q. Do you know it by that name? - Yes.

Q. How far from town? - About a quarter of a mile, it may be a little more, I cannot say for that. After he had buried them he begged I would not say any thing about them. He then told me he had stole them from a watch maker's in town; that he walked backwards and forwards twenty times before he could find an opportunity, and that when he found an opportunity he broke the glass with a stick, and took out the watches, and I told the serjeant of it.

Q. How came you to tell the serjeant? - Because I thought it was more prudent to let the serjeant know of it, because I was afraid I should get into the wrong of it.

Q.You told the serjeant of your own accord? - Yes.


I am a serjeant and clerk to the West Sussex regiment at Uxbridge. On the 16th of December I was at the King's-head, at one Mr. North's, the landlord, I heard serjeant Burrows say -

Q. What did you do in consequence of any information? - On the 17th I see Love, I told him I thought he was guilty respecting the watches.

Q. Did any body say it would be better for him to confess, or that it would be worse for him if he did not? - No.

Q. What did he say? - He said he stole the watches out of the window behind the King's arms, on Thursday night before that, which was the 11th of that month. I asked him how he broke the window? he told me with a stick, and he took the watches out, that is all I know about it.

- MARRIOTT sworn.

I am a constable, and the prisoner was given into my charge.

Q. Did you hear the prisoner say any thing? - I did not.

Prisoner. Ask serjeant Burrows to my character.

Burrows. I cannot say any thing in his behalf.

Court to Broom. Can you say any thing to his character? - I cannot.

Collett. I know the watches, I had them all to repair, and by the work that I have done to them I can swear to them, they beiong to other people, I had them all to repair.

Q. How long was it before you went into the street after the window was broke? - Immediately.

Q. And it was so dark as you mentioned then? - It was.

GUILTY , Death . (Aged 17.)

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

73. MARY PEELTHORPE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 10th of November , a silver watch, value 21s. the goods of John Simkins .


I am a watchman . On the 10th day of November last I was very ill and a-bed, and between the hours of four and five in the evening there came Martha Peelthorpe to my door and knocked, and I refused letting her in several times, and all that I could get from her was, open the door, it is a friend! I refused four, five or six times for what I know. At last I knew her voice, and ill as I was, I got out of bed and opened the door. It is a spring lock.

Q. Did you know her before? - Yes, she used to work in the slop way .

Q. How long have you known her? - About seven or eight months, I believe. I opened the door and she came in, and she asked me how I was? I told her I was very ill, and she sat down by the bed side and asked me if I would have any thing to drink? I told her if I had any thing to drink, it must be a drap of gin, and she took the bottle and went and fetched a quartern of gin.

Q. Was that your usual remedy when you are ill? - When it came I could not drink it. I desired her to mix it among some mint and balm tea that was in a bason, and she mixed it, and seemed to lament over me that I was ill. I have no wife nor child; I have a single room, and have lived this forty years under the roof. Afterwards she withdrawed from the bedside and went to the fireside; she sat on the bed, when she was on the bed then she drank with me, and she withdrawed to the fireside where the watch hung underneath the mantle-piece.

Q. When had you seen it last? - I wound it up at half past three in the afternoon. I did not miss it till I was called at eight o'clock.

Q.Had any body been in the room between the time but her? - No living creature. When she had got the watch, I fancy she was so frustrated that she did not know what to do with it. At eight o'clock a little girl came and knocked at my door, and called me by my name, and told me the time of the night, and when she had so done I arose and got some part of my things on, and then I applied for a light.

Q. Who brought you the light? - I got it myself with the tinder box, as I usually did, and I took the light to see what o'clock it was and missed the watch, and it so surprised me that you might have knocked me down with a feather, and I put the remainder of my things on.

Q. Did you know any thing of the number or maker's name? - No, I did not. I put on the rest of my clothes and went after the prisoner; I followed her to her lodgings, and she had absconded from thence by robbing the servant girl of a box of clothes. She had been gone a fortnight.

Q. What did you do next? - I went to my duty.

Prisoner. I have known this man some time, ask him if he did not strike a light and light me down stairs himself.

Prosecutor. That was at eight o'clock when I struck a light.

Court. She was with you before eight o'clock? - Yes, but she did not stay with me above twenty minutes, or half an hour.

Q.How long had she been gone when you struck a light? - Three hours at least.


A few days after this watch was lost, the information came down to our office; I am a police officer at Whitechapel; me and other officers had been after this woman different times; on the 26th of December I found her in Whitechapel, in a public house, I brought her to the office and searched her minutely, but found nothing on her but the duplicate of an handkerchief and an old gown, which I went and saw, but they were of no value.

Q. to Prosecutor. When had you gone to bed and locked your door? - Just at four o'clock.

Q. When did this woman come to your door? - A little before five. It is a spring lock; nobody could come in, and there was no key hole to the door.

Prisoner. I have known this man some time, and I used to cohabit with him, and he used to come backward and forward to my lodgings, and he wanted me to come and live entirely with him. I met him one day in Whitechapel, and he desired I would call on him, and this day I had been at Whitechapel-road and I called on him, and he asked if it was me? and I said, it was Mrs. Peelthorpe. He said he was very glad I come as he wanted some gin; I went for some for him, and he desired I would come and lay down in the bed; I told him I could not stay; I fat with him and then went about my business; he said if I would come back again he would light a fire, and he got up and struck a light to light a fire, and lighted me down stairs, and told me to go over to the public house to get something and he would come over to me.

Court to Simkins. How old are you? - If I live till next April I am seventy years old.

Jury. How do you get into your room when you are out? - I have two locks on the door besides that spring lock; a padlock and a wooden lock, and I put thespring lock back when I go out.

GUILTY . (Aged 33.) Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

74. WILLIAM RUSSELL and JAMES WATKINS were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 29th of December , three bushels of coals, value 4s. the goods of John Mercalse .

A second COUNT, laying it to be the property of John Bee .

JOHN BEE sworn.

I am a wharfinger and dealer in coals .

Q. Do you know the prisoners at the bar? - Yes.

Q. Did you know them at the time these coals were taken? - Yes.

Q.What was their business? - The one was to drive the waggon; William Rustell .

Q.Were they taken out of a waggon? - Yes.

Q. And what was the other? - The other was engaged by William Russell, to assist him to unload.

Q. From whence were the coals fetched? - From the Bank-side, Southwark.

Q. Where were they to be carried to? - To Gloucester-street, Hoxton.

Q. Did you see them put into the waggon? - I did, I counted the number of sacks myself.

Q. How many were put in? - Thirty-five.

Q. Were they full? - As full as they generally are.

Q. Were they your property or was you answerable for them? - Answerable for them only as a wharsinger.

Q. And then the two prisoners went off with them? - No, only one from the wharf, Russell, the other was hired by the waggoner as he went along.

Q. You did not see him hired? - No.

Q. Do you know whether any coals that these sacks contained were missing? - When they came to the place they were missing.

Q. Do you know that from your own knowledge or the information of others? - From the information of others.

Mr. Knapp. You would not be liable to pay any money if these coals were lost? - I conceive not.

Q. Whose coals were they? - The coals cf John Metcalse, as is mentioned in the indictment.

Q. Who is it that pays the waggon? - I do.

Court. Then he is answerable.

Q. To whom do you charge it to? - To Metcalse.

Q. And that is the custom of the trade? - Quite so.

JOHN RAY sworn.

I am an officer belonging to Worship-street. On Monday the 29th of December I was standing at the office door, a gentleman came up to me and says, there is something going wrong in that waggon, which then was past our office almost.

Q. Who was driving the waggon? - The waggon was then stopped.

Q. Who had the care of the waggon? - Both the prisoners.

Q. What did you observe? - I saw Watkins take a sack of coals out of the waggon by the assistance of Russell, I see Watkins take them into Brockwell's house; I followed him in, and instantly I got in there was a little closet that was behind the door on the right hand, instantly he got in he shot them into that closet, I laid hold of him and I said, I think you are doing that that is not right; he makes answer and says, I know nothing at all about it, Russell is my employer; I am ordered to do what I do by Russell. I took him into custody; I apprehended Watkins first. I sent over for one of the other officers to take him into custody, and went then with Russell to the place where the coals were going to be delivered at Hoxton. Watkins delivered me the ticket of the coals, I asked him for it, and he very readily gave it me out of his pocket; I saw that they should be thirty-five sacks to be delivered to the place where they were going to, and when I got there I was particular in seeing to the number of sacks taken out of the waggon, and when done so, there were thirty-four sacks in the waggon that was taken out of the waggon, I am positive of it, and as such, then finding it was wrong, I took him into custody, and brought him to the office, then being with his waggon and horses I then proceeded over to his master at Bank-side with him, and see him deliver his horses and waggon safe, and then I took him into custody and brought him back again.

Mr. Knapp. Well, Mr. Officer, this was in the day time, was it not? - No, it was not, it was between six and seven in the evening; it was quite dusk, I will not be particular to the hour.

Q. In what place was this? - In Worship-street.

Q. That is pretty near in the way to Hoxton? - Oh, it is certainly.


I keep a chandler's shop, and am in the coal trade, in Gloucester-street, Hoxton. I was to have thirty-five sacks of Mr. Bee, delivered. I was the person that bought the coals, and there were only thirty-four delivered.

Mr. Knapp to Bee. These coals that you have described, you have seen, I take it for granted? - I see them when they went away from the wharf.

Q. If you had seen them afterwards, would you have taken upon yourself to swear to them? - Certainly not.

Q. You don't mean to swear that they are your property? - No.

Q. Did you see them put into the cart? - I did.

Q. Do you know how they were fastened? - With a tail rope quite fast.

Prisoner Russell. I did not load my waggon with the coals, neither did I tie it in. I offered to pay for the coals when the tail rope broke off my waggon.

The prisoner Watkins called two witnesses who gave him a good character.

William Russell, GUILTY : (Aged 55.) Imprisoned one year in the House of Correction , and publickly Whipped one hundred yards in Worship-street .

John Watkins , Not GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

75. JOHN SLUCE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 5th of January , two pair of velveret breeches, value 20s. the goods of Ann Ballard , widow .


Q. Are you a widow? - Yes. By your leave I must beg to recommend the prisoner to the mercy of the court.

Q. Stop, we don't know whether he is guilty yet. Where do you live? - In Whitecross-street .

Q. Do you keep a shop there? - Yes, a clothes shop.

Q. What time was it you lost your property, these velveret breeches? - I believe it was on the 5th of this month; Monday sevenight.

Q. Was you in the shop at the time? - Yes, I shewed the prisoner some breeches.

Q. How many pair did you sell him? - None. I shewed him some.

Q. Was there any body in the shop besides you and the prisoner? - Yes, a child was in the shop, who is the chief evidence. I did not see him take the breeches then, but I suspected he had taken them, and I sent the child after him.

Q. Did you give any alarm? - Yes, I sent my grand child after him; there was an alarm given.

Q. Was he brought back? - Yes, I see him in about ten minutes after he went out, or thereabouts; or it may be twelve minutes.

Q.Were the breeches brought back at the same time? - They were picked up in the street before the prisoner came back, my grandson picked them up.


Q. Have you been sworn? - Yes.

Q. How old are you? - Twelve years old the 18th of this month.

Q. What will become of you if you swear that that is false? - Go to the naughty man.

Q. Look at the prisoner and see if ever you knew him before? - Yes, he came down to my grandmother's the 5th of January, Monday, about half after six in the evening; I stood by the prisoner in the shop, and when he went out my grandmother said she had missed two pair of breeches.

Q. Did you see him come into the shop? - Yes.

Q.What did he do when he came into the shop? - He cheapened some breeches.

Q. What did you do on her missing some breeches? did you go out after him? - Yes, she bid me, and when I went out I see him drop a pair of breeches on the pavement next door; he ran up the street, and I called out stop thief, and he turned up a gateway; I went to the bottom of the gateway and called out stop thief, and see him standing against the wall a little farther up, and he came down and said, what! what! and he ran into the road and I ran after him, and my mamma stood on the pavement and said, which is the man? and I said, that is the man; and she ran after him, and me too, but I soon turned back and went up the alley, and in the alley picked up a pair of breeches.

Q. Was it in the alley where the prisoner had been? - Yes.

Q. You did not see him throw down those in the alley? - No.

Q.As to the other pair of breeches that you see him throw down what became of them? - I only see that one pair fall in the street.

Q. There was one pair dropped in the alley; you did not see him drop them; then I think you said, he dropped a pair by the door? - He did, but he picked them up, and ran further on with them. Presently after I had picked up the first pair, I was sent of an errand, and in passing by I see something lay white against the wall, and I went up and found it was another pair of breeches in the same alley.

Q. What was done with these two pair of breeches? - I brought them home, I gave them to my grandmamma.

Q. What became of the man, did you see him stopped in the street? - He kept running on, one Mr. Merchant ran after him, and followed him, and I went home with the breeches.

Q. During all the time that this manrun, did you lose fight of him till Mr. Merchant followed him? - Yes, just when he turned the corner of the gateway, I did not see him till I got to the bottom of the alley.

Q. Look at the man; did you see his face at any time? - Yes.

Q. Are you prefectly sure that is the man that had the breeches on him? - Yes, I am sure of that.

Q. How soon did you see him after he was taken; after you see him with the breeches? - About ten minutes; but first I was sent into Grub-street, before I see him at my grandmother's house he was at a shoemaker's shop in Grub-street, he went in to cheapen some shoes.

- MERCHANT sworn.

I fell coals just by Mrs. Ballard's. I was standing at my own door that night, and heard this little boy crying stop thief; this prisoner was running along the middle of the road, I followed him along Whitecross-street, till he turned up Chifwell-street, and then he walked leisurely, and I walked after him, he ran but a very little way; he turned down Grub-street, and I followed him about a quarter the length of the street, some way down, and he crossed over, and he went to look in at a window where they sell shoes, and he went in there and began to cheapen some shoes, and I went to Mr. Davis, a constable, and acquainted him that he had certainly done something that he should not do at Mrs. Ballard's, because they cried out stop thief; but he said I must go and fetch the prosecutrix, and I went and fetched them, and this little boy, and he said he was the man. I left him in the shop while I went to the constable; all I know is, that he was the person that ran up the road at the cry of stop thief.

- DAVIS sworn.

I am a constable. I produce two pair of breeches, I got them from the prosecutrix before the justice; I had got the charge of the prisoner, I have had them ever since. (Produced.)

Q.to Bird. Are these the two pair of breeches that you carried home and gave to your grandmother? - Yes.

Q. Were they of that colour? - Yes.

Q. Were they in a part of the alley where the prisoner had been? - Yes, where he stood.

Prosecutrix. They are my breeches, I missed them from the counter.

Q. Were they on the counter when the prisoner was there? - Yes.

Q.Were they the very breeches he cheapened? - Yes, the same.

Q.How many might be on the counter more than these two pair? - There were four or five pair.

Prisoner. I was going up to my sister's, through Whitecross-street, to let them know my wife was very bad in bed; with that there I was coming along Whitecross-street, and there came a man just as I got about the middle of the way, running along, and had liked to have pushed me into the kennel, with that I steps out into the highway, and walks on (my sister lives in Grub-street, up a turning) and I went to Grub-street, and this man came and followed me into a shop, where I was cheapening a pair of shoes; he came in with a woman and this lad, and she said, it was a lustier man than I; and the constable says, please you, will you go with me to the shop? says I, where is it; says he, in Whitecross-street; says I, I will with all my heart. The young body would have let me gone about my business, though I was willing to go back to the shop; I have gentlemen to prove my character, that I never was before ajustice in my life, nor ever wronged any body of a farthing. The man came running against me and pushed me down almost, and I went out into the highway.

The prisoner called three witnesses to his character, who said he was brought up a weaver.

GUILTY . (Aged 58.)

Imprisoned three months in Newgate , and fined 1s .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

76. ANN KNOTT was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 22d of December , a pair of silver shoe buckles, value 10s. 6d. two cornelian seals set in gold, value 10s. 6d. a shirt pin made of gold, value 2s. ditto, value 2s. ditto, value 2s. and a silver box, value 1s. the goods of James Norton and Joseph Thornhill .


I am a jeweller and silversmith .

Q. What is your partner's name? - Joseph Thornhill .

Q. What have you to say against the prisoner? - She was a domestic servant of Mr. Thornhill's, a household servant.

Q. Did she live in the house? - We have two houses adjoining, but no communication between them.

Q. She lived with Mr. Thornhill? - Yes.

Q.Was the property stolen from the house? - From the shop.

Q. Is the shop at Mr. Thornhill's house? - Yes.

Q. You did not see her take the property, I suppose? - No. We had some reason to suspect some things were missing, and suspected the prisoner. Mr. Thornhill, in consequence of that, made some enquiries, and we discovered the property, and that led to charge her with it. I charged her with it, she denied it.

Q. What did you charge the prisoner with? - With the suspicion of having robbed us. I then requested of Mr. and Mrs. Thornhill to examine her box; they did so.

Q. Did you see the box examined? - I did not.

Q. Do you know that the things in the indictment were missing from the shop, of your own knowledge? - The three gold shirt pins and silver box I know to be our property.

Q. Did you miss this property before it was found? - I had a suspicion that property was missing.

Q. Did you miss this identical property? - I cannot say that I did. I have only to say, that that property being found with our marks upon it, I can identify it.

Mr. Knowlys. You have said that you did not miss this identieal property? - I did not miss them.

Q. You say these identical pieces of property were once your property? - I do.

Q. Perhaps you cannot say that they have not been sold? - I do not believe they have been sold.

Q. But you don't know it in point of fact, that they have not been sold? - I do not.

Q.Have you any other partner? - I have not.

Mrs. THORNHILL sworn.

Q. Are you the wife of Joseph Thorahill ? - I am.

Q.What do you know about this? was this girl a servant of your's? - She was.

Q. How long had you had her? - About three months.

Q. Had you a character with her? - I had.

Q. A written or a verbal one? - A verbal one.

Q. Why do you charge her? - I had suspicion of the things that she had taken. I went up with my husband up to her apartment to examine her boxes.

Q. Can you tell what day that might be? - I really cannot recallect; I think it was the Monday preceding Christmas-day; I suppose about one or two o'clock in the day.

Q.Who was with you? - My husband, Mr. Thornhill.

Q.Was the prisoner in the room with you? - She was.

Q. Had you challenged her with any thing before this? - I had.

Q. Did she go up stairs with you? - She went up with us.

Q. What did you challenge her with? - Saying, that she had taken property; The cried a good deal, and seemed not to say much to it. After we had opened the boxes, and Mr. Thornhill had gone down stairs, I interrogated her a good deal, begged of her by all means to consess.

Q. Did you search her boxes? - Yes, one box. I told her she was in a very unhappy situation, and I told her if she would confess I would do all in my power to mitigate her punishment.

Q.Then we must not hear of any confession, after that, did you find any thing in the room? - She delivered up three hat pins in consequence of my interrogating her to acknowledge.

Q. Three hat pins? - No, three handkerchief or breast pins, whatever you please to call them, gold.

Q. Are they shirt pins? - Handkerchief or shirt pins.

Q. Did she deliver up any thing else? - A little twistling or two. They have been kept, I delivered them to the constable.

Mr. Knowlys. This is a very young girl, I believe; about sixteen, I believe? - I cannot pretend to say that I know her age particularly; I do not pretend to say that she is sixteen, or sixteen and a half.

Q. You can tell whether she is a young girl or an old woman? - She is not an old woman, but she can better inform you her age.

Q. Are these gold pins do you say? - I do.

Q. I would ask you what you said to this girl; if you did not go farther and tell her she should never be prosecuted if she would confess? - I told her I would do all in my power to mitigate her punishment.

Q. Did not you tell her that so far from being brought to any punishment at all, she might go home to her friends? - I did not.

Q. Did not you permit her to go away for several days before you took her up? - The gentlemen can better inform you than I can, for I was exceedingly discomposed.

Q.How soon after was it you took her up? - I believe it was the day following.

Q. Did not you permit her to quit the house? - She was permitted to fetch her uncle, that she said she had.

Q. And she came back again to the house? - Not in service.

Q. You in point of fact, permitted her to quit your service? - She went to fetch her uncle.

Q. Did not you from that time consider her as discharged from your service? - No doubt of that, she was not a servant.

Q.Then you permitted her to go from your house? - She went, and came the next day and brought no uncle.

Q. As her uncle would not come she could not bring him? - That I know nothing of.

Q. So that night if she had staid away you would not have prosecuted her? - It was not my business to do it.

Q. Nor Mr. Thornhill's neither. I observe that Mr. Thornhill is not here to day? - No.

Q. Neither you nor Mr. Thornhill would have prosecuted her if she had not come back? - It was not my province.

Court. After she had delivered you these gold rings she went out of your house and returned again? - She did.

Mr. Knowlys. She understood she was forgiven.


I am apprentice to James Norton .

Q. Does Mr. Norton live in the same house with Mr. Thornhill? - No.

Q. You attend the shop? - I do. On the 17th of December, about five o'clock in the afternoon, I had some business to go into the shop, and I saw the prisoner at the drawer where the gold feals come out of.

Q. Is that drawer kept under lock and key? - It was not locked, it was behind the counter.

Q. In what manner was she at the drawer? - I saw it open with her hand in the drawer; I said nothing to her.

Q. Had you any suspicion at the time? - I really had not.

Q. Did it not occur to you an odd thing that a domestic servant should be at that drawer? - I told my master, James Norton.

Q. Did you tell him of it the same day? - No, I don't know whether it was the same day, or perhaps a day or two after; I do not recollect. When I went into the shop she seemed to be rather surprised, and she shut the drawer in a hurry, and the words she said are these, Tommy, where are the candles? She spoke to a son of Mr. Thornhill's, that was in the counting house.

Mr. Knowlys. So that at the time this past there was a young man entrusted with the care of the shop, in the shop as well as you? - Yes, in the counting house.

Q. So you could not have any suspicion because you found there a person whose interest it was to watch her? Where was this drawer? - In the shew glass, in the shop.

Q. Where was this young man? - In the counting house.


I was the officer that was sent for. I produce three pins and a silver patch box, I believe they call it; I received them of Mrs. Norton. The Lord Mayor's clerk gave them to Mrs. Norton afterwards, and I called upon Mrs. Norton to day to get the things to go before the grand jury. I believe they are the same things.

- SPINCKE sworn.

I am a pawnbroker. I produce a pair of buckles, two cornelian seals, set in gold, I believe they are. I bought them, of whom I don't know, it was a woman.

Q. What day was it? - On the 17th of December.

Q. Have you kept them ever since? - Yes.

Mr. Norton deposed to the pins being his property, by his mark being on them.

Mr. Knowlys to Mr. Norton. I observe the marks that are on them would of course accompany them to any body to whom they might have been sold? - No doubt of it.

Q. That only enables you to say that they were once your's? - Certainly.

Q. Though you are inclined to think that they were not sold, yet you cannot venture to swear that they had not gone out of your shop by sale? - I don't chuse to do it. With respect to any promise that has been made, I know nothing about it; I come forward, only as a citizen, to do my duty.

Court to Mrs. Thornhill. I think you said nothing about the box in your evidence before; did you receive the box from the prisoner? - I did.

Mr. Norton. The box is mine.

Mr. Knowlys. You don't carry your evidence further to the box than you do to the pins, though you believe it has not been sold, yet you cannot venture to swear that it has not? - Certainly not.

The prisoner called two witnesses who gave her a good character.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

77. GEORGE BADGER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 18th of December , fourteen pounds weight of raw coffee, value 10s. the goods of Thomas Hanson , John Pearson , Thomas Stoyles and Thomas Pearson .


On the 18th of December, I stopped the prisoner at Paul's-wharf , I had some suspicion he had got what he ought not to have, by seeing some coffee beans fall out of his hat on his making a slip.

Q. What are you? - I am a servant to Mr. Hanson.

Q. What is Mr. Hanson? - A Bull porter , a warehouseman . I asked him what he had in his hat? he said, a little coffee. I asked him if it was a sample? he said no, but he would carry it back again; I told him no, that would not do; then I called Mr. Gossett, and he came forward and sent for a constable.

Q. Who is Mr. Gossett? - One that belongs to Mr. Hanson. I delivered the prisoner up to Mr. Gossett, and then I left him. I know no more. He was examined afterwards.


I was sent for on the 18th of December; I am a constable. About two o'clock I came to the warehouse of Mr. Hanson and Co. Thames-street; what they call Paul's-whars. I then found the prisoner, Badger, by the warehouse door, with his hat laying on the ground, with the crown downward; I see in his hat this quantity of coffee, which is three pounds and a half; it has been in my possession ever since; I then took him into the counting house to search him further, and I found in his breeches this quantity consisting of eleven pounds and a half, not in his pockets, but put round him, I took it from him, and I have had it in my possession ever since.

Mr. Alley. This is unroasted coffee, I believe? - It is.


I am a grocer.

Q. Are you concerned in Mr. Hanson's house? - No, I live in Paul's-chain, near to Mr. Hanson's, not a stone's throw from it. I was going down Thames-street and I saw the constable, and he said, I have got a charge, you are a judge of coffee, will you go down with me? and I went down and was an eye witness of the coffee being taken out of the crown of his hat, and the knees of his breeches. For satisfaction, I offered it to be weighed in my shop, and it weighed upwards of fourteen pounds.

Q.to Tealing. Was the prisoner employed by Mr. Hanson? - He is a journeyman cooper by trade, employed to cooper the casks to make ready for shipping or any thing else. He was coming out of the warehouse when I see him, I suppose him to have been at work there.

Q. Was there any coffee on Mr. Hanson's premises? - A great deal; a great many casks.

Q. Was these casks open? - It is their business to open them, and inclose them again, to cooper the casks.

Q. Then it was easy for any one so employed to take the coffee if he was disposed? - It was nothing but coffee that these coopers came about then.

Q. And he was employed as a journeyman cooper on that day? - He was, and five or six more.

GUILTY . (Aged 53.)

Publickly Whipped .

Tried by the London Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

78. JOHN ELLIS was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of January , a piece of woolen cloth containing thirty-two yards, value 1l. 10s. the goods of Thomas Andrews .


I am a warehouseman in Basinghall-street .

Q. Was the prisoner at the bar your servant or apprentice? - No, I never knew him; I never knew of the loss of the cloth till I heard of it; I lost it from my war house.

Q. When had you last seen it before it was stole? - I cannot recollect having seen it for some time; it has my mark and stamp on it, and it appears by my book that I never sold that piece.

Q. Your servant might have sold it in your absence? - It is regular to enter every thing sold in the book.


Last Thursday morning, about half after eight o'clock, I saw the prisoner in company with two more, looking into different warehouses in Basinghall-street, looking into windows and door ways; I perceived the prisoner at the bar to open the door of Mr. Andrews's warehouse, and walked in; I see him go in, and had suspicion he was going to bring something out; I went after a constable; returning back I see Prior, the officer, with the prisoner, and the property under his arm in the street.


I have got a piece of cloth, the prisoner brought it out of Mr. Andrews's warehouse; I was on the opposite side of the way, I saw him come out of the door with it; I detected him within ten yards of Mr. Andrews's warehouse; he said, if I would forgive him, he would not do so any more.

Prosecutor. That piece is my property, I know it from a seal that it has, and the character of the cost price.

Q. Did you mark it yourself? - No, it has a leaden stamp with -

Q. You have no doubt of its being your property? - No, none in the least.

The prisoner called five witnesses who said, his father was a coach-maker, he had been to sea, and was now with his father, and they knew nothing but honestly by him.

GUILTY . (Aged 16.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

71. THOMAS CLARKE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 24th of December , a hempen bag, value 4d. twenty-four pounds weight of bohea tea, value 2l. 3s. three pounds weight of singlo, value 8s. twelve pounds weight, of roasted coffee, value 1l. 13s. the goods of Thomas Bateman .


I am a tea dealer in St. Martin's-le-grand . On the 24th of December last, I lost a bag containing twenty-nine pounds weight of black tea.

Q. What is the most moderate value of that twenty-nine pounds of tea? - Two pounds thirteen shillings.

Q. Any thing else did you lose? - Three pounds of green tea, value 9s. and twelve pounds weight of coffee, value one pound thirteen shillings. I sent my man with these goods and a chest, which they were tied to, to the Spur inn, in the Borough; his name is James Chambers .

Q. Did you yourself see them sent out of your shop? - I did; I helped the man up with the load.

Q.When did you see your goods? - I heard of them again the same evening, before my servant returned; I did not see them that evening, but I was informed they were in the hands of the constable.

Q. When did you see them? - The day after Christmas Day, before the Lord Mayor, on the 26th of December.

Q.What happened on your seeing them there? - I knew them to be my property.

Q.Were they still in the same packages? - Exactly the same as they went from my house.


Q. You are the servant that was sent with these goods to the Spur inn, in the Borough? - Yes. I pitched my load at the pitching block in Cannon street, and a man came up to me and asked me the road to the Swan with two Necks, Lad-lane.

Q. Who was that man? - I don't know, a stranger.

Q. Not the prisoner? - I believe not. I told him the second turning would take him into Cheapside; he asked me twice, I repeated to him the same.

Q. Did you come away from your load at the time you was directing him to the Swan with two Necks? - No, I had the fight of the chest nearly all the time.

Q. Was there any thing tied to the chest? - Yes, a bag.

Q. Do you know what the bag contained? - Tea and coffee, I expect, I did not see it packed.

Q. Who helped you up with it? - My master.

Q. What happened to you? - I went to take up my load from the pitching block and I found the bag gone. I was very uneasy about it, but I thought it proper to take the chest to the Spur inn, and so I did.

Prisoner. That man that stands there told the Lord Mayor that he packed the parcel himself, and tied the bag, and every thing.

Witness. I sewed part of the bag.


I am constable and patrol of Dowgate ward. On the 24th of December, a little before six o'clock at night, I was in Thames-street, I saw the prisoner at the bar with this package on his shoulder.

Q. Has that been in your custody ever since? - It has; it is in exact the samestate as when I took it from him. I see him go along Thames-street, there was another man along with him in company, they walked on by the side of each other, I stepped to him, says I, my friend, what have you got here? says he, what do you want to know for? or, what is that to you? I said, I should be glad to know what is was; he said, he believed it was grocery. Says I, you must know what it is; says he, it is grocery, I tell you; says I, where are you going with it? says he, to the Borough. I asked him where he had brought it from? he hesitated a good deal on that: the other man that was in company said to me, what have you got to do with the man? it is my property? says I, pray where had you it from, young man? says the prisoner at the bar, it is not his property, it is mine; I said it was very strange that one should say it was his property, and the other should say it was his property; says I, I insist upon knowing where you brought it from; he said, he brought it from a grocer's in Newgate-street, opposite St. Martin's-le-grand, I cannot recollect the name he mentioned, I told him I was not satisfied, I should be glad if he would go back with me to his master's, where he said he had it from. I then took him to our watch-house, now says I, you shall go with me to your master's in Newgate-street; he said it was no use going there, for he found it in Cheapside; I told him it did not appear that if it had been dropped in the street, as the bag was quite clean and it was a dirty night; then he said he saw it pitched up against a door way, and he took it up; he thought he had as much right to it as another.

Q. You are sure he used the word pitched? - He said it stuck up against the door.

Q.Can you say whether he used the word pitched or stuck up? - I cannot possibly recollect, he said it was at a door; I then told him I should detain the goods and take him to the compter. I left the goods at the watch-house, and a young man in care of the goods, while I went to the compter, with other assistance, as there were some men came to the watch-house and said they knew something of him; one man that came back to the watch-house was the man that was with him, that said it was his property first, and afterwards denied it; and so I left a young man with the property, left they should take it away while I was gone. When I came back the young man said, I have found a bill of parcels and permit at the top of of the bag, which led to a discovery of the master it belonged to. I knew nothing of that till I came back from the compter. I then went to Mr. Bateman, and informed him of the matter; Mr. Bateman saw the goods the day after Christmas Day, before the Lord Mayor, Mr. Bateman's man saw the goods the same night he lost them.

Prisoner. Christmas Eve I was going to see a friend over in the Borough, I was asked to come over and sup with them; I was coming through Bow church-yard, there was another strange young man coming along; I see something laying against the church wall, and he and I goes and looks at it, it was a parcel just by the pump; so says I, here is a parcel here, and he took it up on his back, and carried it a considerable way past Garlick-hill, when I took and carried it till that gentleman stopped me with it. I knew nothing of it till I see it lay up against the church wall in Bow church-yard; that is all I know of it.

GUILTY . (Aged 20.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

80. ELIZABETH SALVEL was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 30th of December , a pair of linen sheets, value 7s. a copper candlestick, value 18d. the goods of John Thompson ; a pair of leather boots, value 10s. a pair of silk and worsted stockings, value 18d. a pair of cotton stockings, value 1s. the goods of John Barnes ; a cloth coat, value 5s. a linen shirt, value 6d. a pair of cotton stockings, value 2s. and pair of plated shoe buckles, value 6d. the goods of Thomas Hodgkins .


My wife keeps a little cook's shop.

Q. Do you know the prisoner at the bar? - I remember seeing a person that answers to her description going out of the house, she had a large hair broom under her arm; I did not suspect her.

Q. Did you know her before that? - No. Thomas Hodgkins and John Barnes they both lodge in my house.

Q. What do you know of the sheet and copper candlestick? did you miss them? - I did.

Q. Where was the sheet? - On the bed; the candlestick one of the young men had it to light him to bed; I believe, to the best of my knowledge, John Barnes.

Q. Did you ever employ the prisoner at your house? - No, never.

Q. What time of the day was it you saw her go out? - Between twelve and two at noon, on the 30th of December.

Q. When did you see the woman afterwards? - I see her the next day when I took her.

Q. Are you sure the woman you took was the same woman that you saw go out of the house? - I could not swear to it because it was through a glass partition. The sheet and candlestick are not found, but the other property, belonging to my two lodgers.


Q. Were your things found? - Yes, one pair of boots belonging to me, and one pair of stockings.

Q. Where did you lose them from? - From my lodgings, on the 30th of December; I saw the things the morning I lost them.

Q. Are they here? - The pawnbroker has them.

Q. Was you at home when they were stole? - No, I was at work.


I have got a pair of boots and a coat, the prisoner at the bar brought them to me.

Q. Are you sure it was the prisoner? - Yes.

Q. What did she pledge them for? - For four shillings.

Q. Did she tell you how she came by them? - No, she did not.

Q. Had she ever pledged any thing with you before? - Yes, she had, as much as once or twice before.

Q. When was it she pledged them? - On the 30th of December, to the best of my recollection about three o'clock.

Q. Do you know where Thompson's house is? - No, I do not.

Q. to Thompson. Where do you live? - In Ray-street, Clerkenwell .

Q. to Wells. How far are you from Ray-street? - In Turnmill-street, about a quarter of a mile, not farther.

Barnes. These boots are mine, I know them by the marks that the boot maker wrote in them.

Q. What is your employment? - I am a carpet weaver , but I was in a boot club.

Q. What marks have you on the stockings? - I had an accident a few nights before I lost them, I ripped a hole on the instep, and my washer woman darned it up.

Prisoner. I am a dealer in Rag Fair , I have dealt in Rag Fair for seven years past; these here things I bought about four o'clock in the afternoon, and I was in a great hurry to get home after I bought them, having three children at home, and when I came home, a gentleman's servant in Red Lyon-street, brought me a few things to buy, and I had not money enough to buy them till I pledged these things; I bought these things in Rag Fair, in a lump, and gave nine shillings and two-pence for them, the woman wanted nine shillings and six-pence; I told her I could not give that to get a shilling by them; she said if I would give nine shillings and a quartern of gin I should have them; I told her I would give her nine shillings and two-pence, and I would give no more, and I gave her that for them.

Q. To Wells. How far is Rag Fair from your house? - I cannot say, a mile, or a mile and half.

GUILTY . (Aged 33.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

81. ANN ATKINS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 1st of November , a pewter funnel, value 6d. and a pewter pint pot, value 10d. the goods of Thomas Bramwell .


On the 1st of November last, I lost a funnel, I found it under the prisoner's cloak, I did not miss it at all.

Q.Were there any other goods afterwards found that belonged to you? - Yes, a pint pot; I did not take it from her, the constable took it from her at Marlborough-street.

Q.What had the prisoner at the bar to do with these things? - Here is the constable that took the pot from her.


Mr. Bramwell sent for me on the 1st of November, to take the prisoner into custody for stealing the funnel; I took her to Marlborough-street office, and I locked her up till Mr. Bramwell came, and after Mr. Bramwell came she dropped a pint pot there, from under her petticoat; and after that I took her before the magistrate.

Q. Did you see any thing of a funnel? - Yes, the funnell was put into my care, Mr. Bramwell found the funnel on her.

Q. To Bramwell. What was the reason for sending for the constable? - Because I detected the funnel on her. I keep a public house .

Q. Had she been employed about your house? - Occasionally, to go of an errand or so, for these six or seven years past; there was a black man that used to black shoes at the door, and she passed for his wife.

Q. What led you to suspect any thing? - I see the funnel under her cloak as she was going out of my house, I was just coming to the door as she got out; I see a large bulge, and I suspected, and I lifted up her cloak, and found the funnel just under her cloak; I know it by its general appearance, I have had it about five or six or seven years; as to the pot I know it to be mine, because it has my name on it.

Q. When had you seen the effects last, before they were missing? - My wife was saying before this woman, that she had lost a dozen pots this week, and this woman made a reply, and said, I wish their hands might drop off who took them.

Q. When had you seen this pot before? - I cannot say, they are in general use about the house.

Q.Was this woman ever employed to scower pots? - No, only just to go of an errand or so, and we used to give her a bit of broken victuals.

GUILTY, Of stealing to the value of 10d .

Imprisoned three months in Newgate , and fined 1s .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

82. SUSANNA LEE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 10th of November , a linen shift, value 4s. the goods of Francis Nash .


Q. Are you the wife of Francis? - Yes.

Q. What is your husband? where does he live? - In Pleasant-row, Hobson's-place ; he is a fellowship porter .

Q. Do you know the prisoner at the bar? - Yes, she lived next door to me.

Q.When did you see the shift before it was stole? - The 9th of November, Sunday, it hung out in the yard.

Q. Did you miss it there? - Yes.

Q. How soon afterwards did you see it? - About four hours afterwards.

Q. You did not see the prisoner take it? - No.

Q.Is the shift here? - Yes, I fancy it is.


I am a pawnbroker. I know the prisoner at the bar, from coming to my shop.

Q. Has she been ofter? - Not very often; two or three times. I produce a shift, she pledged it with me the 10th of November last, she said she pledged it for another person; she desired to have it in the name of an article she pledged out.

Q. What did she pledge it for? - One shilling and sixpence.

Q. You are sure it is the prisoner? - Yes.

Mrs. Nash. This is my shift, I know it by the mark M. H. it is my mother's shift, my mother gave me two of them, her name is Mary Huggins ,

Prisoner. On Sunday before she went out, I went and borrowed a flat iron of her, she lent me two instead of one; I asked her if she could lend me eighteen-pence, she said no, she had no money, but if I liked it, I might take the shift to pawn for eighteen-pence.

Prosecutrix. I never lent it to her to pawn, it was hung out to dry.

GUILTY . (Aged 30.)

Fined 1s .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

83. WILLIAM LISTER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 25th of December , a watch with the inside case of metal, and the outside case covered with tortoiseshell, value 40s. a seal, value 1d. and two watch keys, value 2d. the goods of John Ross , in his dwelling house .


Q. Is John Ross your husband? - If he is alive, I left him helpless at home.

Q.Was any thing lost at your house? - On the 25th of December, Christmas Day, I missed the watch.

Q.What is your husband? - He belongs to the Custom House , and he has been now nine months under a disorder, and entirely took to his bed this five weeks.

Q.When had you seen that watch before it was missing? - I see the watch on Christmas Day, about four o'clock.

Q. When did you miss it? - About four minutes after.

Q. How came you to miss it? - The prisoner came into my house on Sunday, and he was there then, and he says, give me a dinner as it was Christmas Day; and I told him I was in distress enough, I could not think of any such thing.

Q.Was he a perfect stranger to you? - I never saw him before Sunday. He said it was a common rule to give a dinner on Christmas Day; I told him I had it not for myself.

Q. What time of the day was this? - Four o'clock. He then said he would go and treat me with something to drink; I told him I would not taste any thing, if he brought it I would neither drink it nor touch it; I beseeched him to go out of my house and I would forgive him the four days he owed me.

Q.Then he had been with you before? - Yes, as a lodger from the Sunday before Christmas Day.

Q. You missed the watch then? - No, not directly. My husband is in a club, and the steward of the club came in at the providential hour that this man came, and the steward stood leaning with his stick at the foot of the bed, and an old gentlewoman, an old acquaintance of mine, stood at the side of the bed, and I saw the steward to the door, and I said to this old acquaintance of mine, pray come and sit down and warm yourself, and sitting down I found the loss of the noise of the watch, I jumped up, and it was only four minutes after four by the clock.

Q.Where did the watch usually hang? - By the fire place, by the side of the chimney.

Q. If I understand you right, the steward of the club on this Christmas Day came to your husband's room? - Yes.

Q.He was then ill in bed? - Yes.

Q.Was the prisoner in the room at that time? - Yes.

Q. If I take you right, you was discoursing with the steward of the club? - Both the steward and myself were discoursing with my husband.

Q.When did you miss the watch after this conversation? - I see Mr. Lister and the steward both go out together to the door; Mr. Lister told me if I did not chuse to give him a dinner, he would fetch me a pint of brandy, or any thing else I chose. I told him I would not drink with him.

Q. When did you miss the watch? - Presently on shutting the door after the steward and this man likewife, I fat down, a gentlewoman, an intimate acquaintance of mine was by the bed side with my husband, and I said, Mrs. Poplar, sit down by me, and I missed the found of the watch.

Q. Can you tell what fort of a watch this is? - It is a metal watch, tortoiseshell outside; only the day before I bought a key to regulate the watch, like a bellows, with my own hands.

Q. Did you hang that key to the watch? - Yes, with my own hands.

Q. When did you see it again? - I see it again in about an hour afterwards, at Mr. Chambers's, in Glass-house-fields, the Nag's-head. I employed four men to go different ways, and myself went to all the pawnbrokers to stop it.

Q. Is Mr. Chambers a pawnbroker? - No, he is a publican. After I missed the watch, I went to a public house I commonly use, I went and told them that the boatswain, (not knowing hisname till I saw him before the justice) had taken my husband's watch, and they all said they would do me the biggest service they could, and through their going out every way to make this description, there was a young fellow that was his bed fellow some time past, and he came into the public house where I use, and he said, I will tell you where the watch and man is, and these men that I employed ran and found the man and the property.

Q.Did you go yourself to the house? - I did, and they enquired of me what the watch was like; the man was in possession then. I would not wish to prosecute him if I possibly could help it.

Q. You went to Mr. Chambers's? - Yes, but I did not see the prisoner.

Q. Did you see the watch? - Yes.

Q. Is the watch here? - I dare say Mr. Chambers has got it.

- CHAMBERS sworn.

This prisoner came to my house on Christmas Eve about five o'clock in the afternoon.

Q.You keep a public house, do you? - Yes, he called for a couple of pennyworth of bread and cheese, and a pint of purl, which I served him; after sitting a bit I asked him for the money, and he could not find any. He said he had been receiving some pension money and bought a watch that cost him four guineas, and he asked me if I would buy it? I told him I would have nothing to do with it; he asked me two guineas and a half for it, a little while after he said I should have it for a guinea, I would not have it then. There was a young man in the house, and he asked him if he would go and pawn it for him, he would give him a shilling. I told him he should not go out of the house till I was paid the reckoning; says he, if you will give me half a guinea on the watch, I will call in the morning, I told him I would not have any thing to do with it, I told him I thought he had stole it; he told me he had not, he was a very honest man, he had bought it. There was a young fellow that came in that knew where he lodged, and I said to him, I wish you would take a step to see whether he has not stole that watch from his lodgings or not, and the young man came back and said he had stole this watch; there were three of the neighbours came down after the young fellow, and the young fellow called me on one side and told me he had stole the watch from his lodgings. As soon as ever these people came I went and accused him of it; and this young fellow says, you have stole your watch from your lodgings, and he owned directly that he had, and he pulled it out of his pocket and gave it to me; then when I got the watch, I asked the people if they knew the marks.

Q. Did Mrs. Ross come down with them? - She came down afterwards; I asked her what sort of a watch it was? and she described it very exactly.

Q. Have you got it here? - Yes.

Q. Was there a key to it? - Yes, just as it is now, two keys and a seal.

Q. to Mrs. Ross. Did you use to wear it, or your husband? - I used to wear it some years ago, but my husband has wore it of late. I know it perfectly and there are the keys, one I bought the day before of a person that is since dead.

Prisoner. I have no occasion to say much, I took the watch in my drunkenness, and I put it in my pocket the same as if it belonged to me; I kept the chain out and went into the public house. It is the first thing I have done since I was born, I always got my living withoutthievery or drunkenness. I said to the landlord, here take care of this watch, and give it the mistress.


Of stealing to the value of 39s.(Aged 34.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

84. EDWARD SAVILLE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 9th of December , a wooden puncheon, value 10s. the goods of John Harley .


I am a victualler ; I detected the prisoner, on the 9th of December, between the hours of five and six, rolling the puncheon from my premises in Old-street , round the corner, round my house, on to the foot way.

Q.Was he rolling it in a direction from the premises? - Yes, from the premises.

Q. Are you sure he had moved the puncheon from the place in which it stood? - Yes, about twenty-five yards.

Q.Was it an empty puncheon? - Yes.

Q.What time of night was it? - It was night, between five and six; I heard him throw the puncheon down and roll it round the house, and I opened the door and went out after him and came up to him, and asked him where he was going with the puncheon? he said, what business was that to me? I asked him if it was his? he said yes, he was going home with it. I laid hold of him and sent for an officer. The puncheon is not here.

Q. How did you know it to be your puncheon? - No more than the plantation mark. I saw the puncheon not two minutes before standing in the place where it used to be.

JOHN GASS sworn.

I am one of the officers of St. Luke's.

Q. Did you see this puncheon in the possession of the prisoner? - No, I only took charge of him; he appeared to be rather in liquor, and I carried him before the magistrate.

Prisoner. My wife and I were going along Old-street, going into Shoreditch, the night was duskish, the cask was on the belly of it, and there was not room for to go past, and I moved it for my wife to go past, and my child, with that the gentleman hearing the cask making a noise came out, and asked me where I was going to take that cask to? I said, I was going to take it no where, but if it was his, why did not he take it out of the path way? He said he insisted that I was going to steal it, and sent for this gentleman, the constable, and took me to Hog-lane, to the justice's, and swore that I was going to steal it, I told him it was too big for any man to steal, I only moved it out of the way for to make a free passage to pass it.

Q. to Harley. Did you see any wife or child with this man? - Yes. When I laid hold of this man by the collar and held him by the door, a woman came up and said, what do you do there? he said, this gentleman will not let me go, and his wife said, why did not you let the cask alone? why did you not roll it to the green yard?

Q. Was it on the path way? - It stood up close by the side of my cellar window, it is a bye way, wide enough for two carts to pass.

Q. Did the man appear to be drunk or sober? - He appeared not to be verysober, he was in his working dress, and his wife had his coat in her arms, and after I gave charge of him, she gave him his coat and he put it on him.

Q. Then the man and wife were together when you laid hold of the prisoner? - When I had hold of the man the wife came up.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

85. SARAH COWLEY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 20th of December , a man's cloth great coat, value 15s. two hair wigs, value 20s. and three brass candlesticks, value 2s. the goods of George Courtoy .


I am the son of George Courtoy , it is my father's property. I come to swear to them.


I work for Mr. Clarke, who has got the business of Mr. Courtoy. I was apprentice to Mr. Courtoy, and now he has given up the business I work for Mr. Clarke.

Q. Do you know whether Mr. Courtoy was robbed of any thing? of a man's cloth great coat, two hair wigs, and three candlesticks? - Yes, I think about the 20th of December, I don't know the day of the week.

Q. How came the property of Mr. Courtoy's to be there? - They were in one of the parlour, he is out of the business, but he live in the house.

Q. In what manner were the things missing? - I went down into the yard with master's shoes, and Mr. Courtoy's shoes, and I heard the bell ring, I came up stairs and saw the prisoner go out with the things lapped up in her apron, and I suspected her as a thief, and I followed her down into the Hay-market.

Q. Where is Mr. Courtoy's house? - No. 14, Oxendon-street, Hay-market .

Q. Did you see her at the Hay-market? - Yes, I did.

Q. What did you find on her? - A great coat, two wigs, and three brass candlesticks; she dropped them from her apron when I came up to her; I laid hold of her and brought her to the door, and another person picked up the things, and I sent for a constable.

Q. Is that person here? - No.

Q. Did you see her drop the things you mentioned? - Yes, I did. A person picked them up.

Q. In your presence? - Yes.

Q. What was done with them after? - They were gives to the constable.

Q. Did you see them given to the constable? - Yes, and he has had them ever since.

Q. Did she say any thing about them? - I asked her where she was going with them? she said I had nothing at all to do with them; she gave me the lie twice; she said she was going a great way.

Q. In what part of the house were they taken from? - From the middle parlour, there are three parlours.

Q. They are on the same level with the street? - Yes, they are.

Prisoner. Did you ever see me in your life? - That is the same person.

Q. Had she on a cloak then? - Yes, I think it is the same that she has on now, but I will not be positive. She had on a cloak and bonnet.

Q. Have you the things here? - I don't know, I delivered them up to the constable, I have never seen them since.

Q. Have you seen them at all since you attended? - No, I have not.

Q.Are they brought here by any body? - I don't know, without they are brought here by the constable.

Q. Can you venture to swear that the things that you gave to the constable belonged to Mr. John Courtoy ? - Yes, because Mr. John Courtoy has sworn they are his property. The two wigs are two different gentlemen's, and the great coat is Mr. John Courtoy 's, and the three brass candlesticks.

Q. Have you ever seen him wear the coat? - Yes, I can swear they are his.

Q. How long had he had the candlestick? - A good many years, I believe, but I cannot really say how long.

Q. Did Mr. George Courtoy see the things after they were taken from the woman? - He saw them at Bow-street; he did not see them when I took them from the woman.

Q. Did he see the same at Bow-street as you took from the woman? - Yes, he did.

Q. to George Courtoy . Was that the property belonging to your father, that you see at Bow-street? - Yes, the candlesticks was made use of every night, I know them by the shape and figure. The great coat he wore every day, it was whitish.

Prisoner. I was going along, and I saw a porter carrying a bed and bedstead on a knot, and a parcel of things in his hands, and he was likely to fall down, and he desired me to carry these things for him, and he would satisfy me for my trouble.

Court to Bullett. Was there any man near her at the time? - No, I did not see any man.

Q. Was the outer door open? - The passage door is always open in the day time.

GUILTY . (Aged 60.)

Imprisoned three months in Newgate , and fined 1s .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

86. JAMES MORRIS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 9th of January , four pieces of linen cloth, containing two hundred yards, value 12l. the goods of John Kenworthy , Edward Kenworthy , and James Kenworthy .


Q. What business are you? - I keep a Manchester warehouse .

Q. How many partners have you? - Two, Edward and James.

Q. Did you lose four pieces of cloth at any time? - Yes, last Friday night, my porter was carrying them out, going toward Bond-street.

Q. Did you send them out? - I did.


I am porter to Messrs. Kenworthys.

Q. On Friday last had you any order to carry out any linen? - Yes.

Q. What time did you go out? - Between four and five.

Q. How many pieces? - Four.

Q. You don't know what they contain? - I don't know the length.

Q. Did they contain two hundred yards? - I cannot say. I carried them to the sign of the Magpie, in Butcher-row, behind Temple-bar , I put them on the porters' block that is up againstthe windows, and I had a cord to it, and I put it under the fash into the inside, to be sure of my goods.

Q. Did you leave the things there? - Yes.

Q. What happened then? - It staid there a while, I sat a while in the window, I don't know how long. While I was drinking my beer I thought I could perceive it was moved about two or three inches nearer the other end of the block, which made me to take more particular notice of it; I think in about five minutes after I see it going off, I ran out and found it on the prisoner's back.

Q. Quite taken from the window? - Yes.

Q. In what street was the prisoner? - It is Butcher-row, Wych-street is the name of the street I believe.

Q. How far was it from the house when you found it on his back? - To the best of my knowledge, about thirty yards. I seized him and asked him what he was doing with my goods? I cannot justly say what he said then, but he said soon after that a man gave him sixpence to carry it.

Q. Did you stop him? - Yes, and brought him back to the public house.

Q. What did you do with the goods, or what did he do with the goods? - To the best of my knowledge he carried them back, but I cannot really say whether he did or not, but I think he did.

Q. Did you send for a constable, or what did you do? - I believe somebody went for a constable, I did not go myself. I went with him to Bow-street, and took the goods to Bow-street; I did not go to my master at all.

Q. Have you had the goods ever since? - Yes.

Q. Have you brought them here? - Yes.

Q. You have kept them separate from other goods? - Yes. (Produced.)

Kenworthy. I know them by the number and mark.

Prisoner. I have got a wife and three children, and work hard for them every day, and go out every morning to get a shilling if I can; I went out that day to the Bank-side and earned a shilling, and out of the shilling I spent sixpence, and I went home and gave my wife the sixpence; I asked her if she had got any thing for supper, she said she had not, I said I would go out and get her something; going down to Butcher-row, I stood to make water just at the Magpie stand, and I see a man who said, coalheaver, if you will carry this load for me I will give you sixpence; says I, I will. Says he, take and carry it up for me to Boswell-court, and I took it on my back, and he went on and I followed him up Newcastle-court, when I got about two yards up the court from the stone steps this man followed me and said, what have you got here? I said, what is that to you? he said, why it is my property; says I, then God bless my heart, I will carry it back again, and I did carry it back to the Magpie. I have been in prison ever since, and what my family have done for victuals and drink I don't know; I am a man well known.

Court to Marland, Did you see any body in his company? - No, I did not.

The prisoner called seven witnesses who gave him a good character.

GUILTY . (Aged 40.)

Recommended by the jury.

Imprisoned three months in Newgate and fined 1s .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

87. WILLIAM MYATT was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 12th of December , five linen shirts, value 25s. three linen shifts, value 10s. a cotton bed gown, value 2s. a linen sheet, value 1s.6d. three linen handkerchiefs, value 3s. and a damask table cloth, value 5s. the goods of Edward Pruden .


I live at Hammersmith terrace , No.1, in the county of Middlesex, a neighbour of Mr. Pruden's. On the 12th of December, about four o'clock in the afternoon as near as I can guess, I was called into my shop to serve half a pound of lump sugar, I perceived a strange young man about five yards from the shop making water, seemingly a stranger; I watched and see he went about ten yards up the lane, and passed the trap door of the cellar, and looked into the house, and he went about thirty yards farther, and my eye watching that man round, I saw the prisoner at the bar in the garden, unpegging the linen from the line; when he got them off the line he threw the pegs on the ground, and put the linen over the sence on some planks, and jumped over the sence, and I ran up close to him, and asked him what he did with that linen?

Q. Did he jump into the same place where he put the linen? - One hand was on the linen when I came up to him. When I came up to him I said, what do you do with that linen? says he, they are not your's; says I, are they your's? yes, says he; no, says I, they are not, they belong to the landlord, Mr. Pruden, with that he attempted to knock me down; says I, don't strike, but go up with me to the landlord's, and he went with me to the door, and I called out, Pruden, here is a man that has stole your linen; and he ran up a lane about half a mile long, but Mr. Pruden ran out and took him before he was out of my sight. I am certain of the man because he has lost his left eye.

Prisoner. At the justice's you said there were three handkercheifs, and afterwards you said they were not hung out, and afterwards the magistrate scratched it out, he cannot deny it.

Finch. There was a cloth put at the bottom of the basket that the things were put in, and that was put down at first, and we told the magistrate the next morning that that was not stole, and it was struck out. I put my mark on the linen, and I have never seen them since till now; they are the same, there is my mark on them, three black stitches that I put in every one.


They are my property, I have three shirts that have buttons and botton holes at the wristbands, and the other is my little boy's shirt, his name is marked in India ink, in full; the linen sheet is marked in my name.

Q. Do you know any thing of this man? - No, but I understand his name is James Cox, and he lives in Tottenham court road.

GUILTY . (Aged 19.)

Confined twelve months in the House of Correction , and publickly whipped .

Tried by the second Middlesex jury before Mr. RECORDER.

88. ANDREW SEDGEWICKE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 21st of December , a hempen sack, value 6d. and two bushels of oats, value 6s. the goods of William Oldgate .


I am a corn chandler . On Sunday the 21st of December, I was robbed from some part of my cart house; I found the sack with some oats in it, during the night.

Q.Was the sack your's? - It was not.

Q. Were the oats your's? - I believe it is a hard matter to swear to oats.

Q.They were on your premises? - Yes.

Q. How came they on your premises, was it a borrowed sack? - No, but it was on my premises, how it came there I cannot possibly tell.

Q.Were these sacks of oats that you speak of, those that were found on the prisoner? - Yes, those that he took from the cart house.

Q. Why do you believe that they belonged to you? - Because they are very much like the oats that I have; I have a great many sacks about my yard that are stray sacks.

Q. Did you miss any oats from any place? - No, when I have two or three hundred bushels of oats shot down I cannot possibly miss any.


Tried by the second Middlesex jury before Mr. RECORDER.

89. HANNAH BARBRICK was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 21st of November , a silk cloak, value 2s. a linen gown, value 2s. a linen apron, value 12d. a pair of leather shoes, value 6d. a pair of cotton stockings, value 6d. and sixteen halfpence , the goods and monies of Ann Edwards .


I am in the upholstery business ; I am a single woman . On the 21st of last November, I was robbed, Sunday morning, about half an hour after five; the gown was behind my bed under my head, the rest were in a bundle by my bedside, I was in bed at the time at my own lodgings; the prisoner was a lodger in the same room, she awaked me taking the gown from underneath the head of my bed; she slept in another bed in the same room, it was before daylight, about half after five; she awaked me, and I missed my things, all my things. I said, Oh, dear! Oh, dear! I have lost all my things; she made answer, I will get up and get you a light; she went down stairs to get me a light but never returned.

Q. If it was so dark, how could you make your discovery that your things were gone? - My gown was under the head of my bed, and she awaked me in pulling it from under me, and I felt about immediately and missed my other things, they were altogether.

Q. How soon did you see her after? - I see no more of her till I met her by chance in the street, three weeks after, and she had the gown on, and I stopped her and asked her how she could be so cruel to rob me of all my things? she said I was deceived in the person; I said, no, I am not, you know you have got my gown on now, and she made a laugh and ran away, and I catched hold of her and called the watchman.

Q. Did you stop her at that time? - I did.

Q. With the assistance of the watchman? - Yes.

Q. Have you ever seen any of your things any where? - I went to the pawnbroker's and redeemed my apron myself, at my own expence, for I had not one to wear.

Q. Is the pawnbroker here? - No. I told him my situation, and he told me I should not have them without I paid for them; the apron and handkerchief were pledged together for one shilling.

Q. There is nobody here from the pawnbroker at all? - No.

Q. Is that the only thing that you recovered? - Yes.

Prisoner. She told me at Marlborough-street if I would give her the things again she would forgive me; she is nothing but a girl of the town, has never done a stroke of upholstery for this twelve months.

Prosecutrix. I said if you will return me my things, I don't want to prosecute you.

Prisoner. I borrowed this woman's things to go as far as Hounslow in; there were three more beds in the room besides the bed where I slept in.

Q. Who did you borrow them of? - Of Ann Edwards.

Q. to Prosecutrix. Did you ever lend her the things? - No.

Q. Do you get your livelihood by working at upholstery? - I do, and when I do not work at the upholstery I work at the army work.

Q. You see the situation of this woman is a very critical one, I hope you are swearing that that is true. Had you any quarrel with this woman? - I have had no quarrel with her, she lived there a very little time.

Q. Is the story you have told here true? - It is.

Jury. What induced the pawnbroker to give you the things? where had you the ticket from? - The prisoner gave me the ticket, and I got my apron out with it.

Q. What upholsterers do you work for? - Mr. Morris, in St. Martin's-lane.

Court. What time was it she gave you the ticket? - At the justice's, for the apron and handkerchief.

Q. Was the ticket for the apron and handkerchief in one ticket? - Yes, they were.

Prisoner. My friends are all in the country, and I only came to London quite big with child.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

90. MARY MERCHANT and MARY MACCLEUGH were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 11th of January , ten guineas, half a crown, and four shillings , the monies of Alexander Temple .


On the 11th instant, last Sunday morning, about one o'clock, as I was returning from Fleet-street to my lodging, in Red Lion-street, Clerkenwell, I was accosted by Mary Merchant , who asked me if I would go home with her?

Q. Was you drunk or sober? - I was not sober, otherwise; I should not have done as I did. She asked me if I would go to sleep with her, (this was near the corner of Field-lane, in Saffron-hill,) I consented, she took me to the house of the other prisoner, Mary Maccleugh, I believe, I cannot swear to her name; she is the housekeeper, I believe. I then went into a bed the woman shewed us, in about an hour I felt my breeches,(which I put under my head) being moved, I was heavy to sleep, but this disturbed me. Mary Merchant immediately ran down stairs, I immedaitely searched the pockets of my breeches, and I found a deficiency of ten guineas, half a crown, and four shillings.

Q. When had you last observed this money to be in your pocket in this house? - When I put my hand into my pocket to pay for the bed and give the girl her compliment.

Q. You had paid that? - I had.

Q. Was it loose in your pocket, or in any sort of bag or purse? - It was not in a bag; all loose, the gold and silver together.

Q. What are you by trade? - I am an officer of the excise.

Q. What did you do on this? - I immediately called out, the woman of the house immediately came up and asked me what was the matter? I told her I was robbed of ten guineas and some silver, that I considered her as a party concerned and would call the watch to my assistance; she told me that the girl had gone without her knowledge, and left the street door open; I still insisted on calling the watch, and called repeatedly for some time; she would advise me, she said, to go to bed and sleep till morning, and she would find the girl. I told her, I thought by going to bed I might lose my life as well as my money, and therefore I must insist on having her secured; I went down stairs and still called the watch, at last, after I had been down stairs some time, Mary Maccleugh took up the candlestick from the table, and said, is this your money? There were three guineas and two shillings on the table. I said, that is part of my money; there was one bent guinea, the same as I had had in my pocket; she then said that the girl had robbed me, but she should give me my money again, the girl then came into the room, but where from I know not. The girl confessed she had robbed me.

Q. What did she say? - She said she would give me the money again; she then gave me a guinea, half a crown, and I think two shillings; the rest, she said, she had not got. At the time she was laying this money down, the patrol came to the door and said, if the door was not opened he would break it open; the door was opened and the patrol came in, and after some little time the girl consented to be searched; she was not searched in my presence, it was in another room, I heard money drop. When the patrol came to me he said, she had got four guineas, concealed about her somewhere.

Q. What did you receive from the patrol? - I received four guineas by the order of the magistrate.

Q. How much had you been drinking? - Upon my word I was pretty much inebriated, or else I should not have gone to such a place.

Q. But you are positive in your recollection of what you have now been telling us? - I am positive.


Q. You are the patrol, I understand? - Yes. Between three and four o'clock in the morning, on Sunday last, I was going down Sharp's-alley, I heard murder and watch called in the house the prisoner lives in, then I called for the assistance of the watchman that was near at hand, and we went to the door. I said, there is murder called here, and I insist on the door being opened, on that the door was opened by Mary Maccleugh, I went in, and see Mary Maccleugh and Mary Merchant standing together by the side of the table; I asked what was the matter? the prosecutor said, he had been robbed of ten guineas by Mary Merchant, then I told her she was my prisoner; he then said that he had had three guineasand two shillings given him back that was under the candlestick; then I asked her if she had any more of the property about her? if she had to deliver it as it might go better in her favour; she denied the robbery for some time. Mary Maccleugh said, deliver the man his money for you have got it, then I still persuaded her to deliver up the property.

Q. Did you search her? - Yes, in the same house, not in the same room. She told me if I would come with her she would tell me all about it; then accordingly I went with her into another room, and I called two watchmen likewife with me.

Q. Did the watchmen go into the room with you? - Yes.

Q.With you and Mary Merchant ? - Yes. She then declared that she had got four guineas of his property that she had robbed him of; I found the four guineas, she pulled it out of her bosom. She offered me a guinea if in case I would settle the business.

Q. Before she pulled the money out of her bosom? - Yes. Says I, if you will let me see the money I will settle the business presently, then from that I kept the money, she wanted three guineas out of the four. I kept the four guineas, and I said, now you are my prisoner, you shall go to the watch house. I took her up to the watch-house, and from thence to the magistrate on Monday.

Q. What became of the four guineas there? - It was delivered up to the prosecutor by order of the magistrate.

Prisoner Maccleugh. I would wish him to speak the truth, I told him to search the woman, for that she must have the money.

Prisoner Merchant. I met this man, I cannot say where, and he asked me to go with him, and I told him I would go with him, as I was very much distressed; I thought I must go to the workhouse the next week; I went to this good woman's house and he changed a guinea and sent for half a pint of liquor, before he went up stairs. Mrs. Maccleugh said to him, if you have got any thing to leave, give it me, and I will take care of it. No, says he, I have got nothing to take care of, but what I can take care of myself. I went up stairs and he gave me some silver into my hand, but I did not know what it was till I went down stairs, and when I went down stairs to go home to my sister, I looked and saw what it was, and when I see what it was, I told Mrs. Maccleugh that she might go up and awake the man.

Jury. What did he do with the money he gave you? - I put it into my pocket.

Court. It is a very delicate thing to ask a prisoner questions she is not bound to answer.

Mary Merchant, GUILTY . (Aged 24.)

Transported for seven years .

Mary Maccleugh , Not GUILTY .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

92. JANE PORTER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 10th of January , a cotton gown, value 3s. 6d. a waistcoat piece, value 6d. and a cotton shawl, value 1d. the goods of Robert Dorney .


I live in James-street, No.2, Manchester-square . I am a cordwainer .

Q. Was you at home when these things were stolen from you? - No, I found them concealed on Monday the 12th of January.

Q. When did you last see them at home? - Saturday the 10th, by the fire side of my own room; I have only one room, the furniture is my own. I rent the room.

Q.Did you go out on that day? - Yes, about half past eight o'clock.

Q. When did you return? - In about a quarter of an hour.

Q. Were the things missing then? - Yes.


I am the pawnbroker; the prisoner pledged the gown with me on Monday morning.

Q. Did you ever see her before? - Not that I know of. I am sure it was her; she pawned it in the name of Ann Ponrey, for half a crown.

Q. to Prosecutor. Did you know the prisoner before? - Never saw her before with my eyes, till I apprehended her in Carnaby-market. I have got a poor wife that is blind and cannot come, and got two fatherless children. The gown was hung on the nail of the mantle piece wet, and here is a bit that was left on the nail, when it was snatched off, that matches.

Prisoner. I was at Westminster, No. 21, Charles-street, when he lost his property; at Mr. Jacques's. I went to receive my week's wages, and I was there about nine o'clock at night, at Mr. Jacques's, that I can take my oath of, and coming home I felt something under my feet and did not know what it was, and went back and picked it up, and it was this gown; (I never saw the man in my life, nor know where he lives) and I went and pawned it on Monday, for half a crown, and I never saw the man nor he never saw me before in his life; I don't know where his apartments are.

Q. to Prosecutor. Did you find any other of the property? - Yes, a half shawl on her neck.

Prisoner. The shawl was put about the gown.

Q. Do you know how the shawl was left? - It was not on the gown, it was on another line.

Prisoner. I offered him two guineas to make it up at the justice's, and he would not take it.

Court. He was very right not to take it.

GUILTY . (Aged 51.)

Imprisoned three months in Newgate , and fined 1s .

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

92. ELIZABETH DICKSON was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 18th of December , two linen bed curtains, value 2s. two check linen window curtains, value 2s. a pair of linen sheets, value 2s. a woollen blanket, value 12d a flat iron, value 18d. a bed quilt, value 2s. the goods of Joseph Webb , in a lodging room .


I live at Dartmouth-row, Westminster ; I live along with my father, he is a housekeeper. On the 17th of November, that woman took our lodging.

Q. What business is your father? - He is a carpenter by business, he keeps a broker's shop ; on the 17th of November she took the room of me furnished, she was to pay me three shillings and sixpence a week for the ready furnished room.

Q. Describe what furniture was in it at the time you made the contract? - There was a pair of window curtains, linen, white and green.

Q. Were they check window curtains? - Yes. There was a pair of bed check curtains linen, a pair of linen sheets, a pair of flat irons, one blanket, a quilt the same as the curtains, linen. On the 18th of last month, December, I went up to ask for my flat irons, and she shut the door in my face, and said she would bring them down; I insisted on having them out, I told her I wanted them, and I insisted on going into the room, and as soon as I went into the room I saw the room was stripped of all the things that were in it; I sent for a constable and had her taken up.

Q. You acquainted your father I suppose? - Yes, and the constable found several duplicates of my things on her.

Q. When did you see that property again? - I think it was on Thursday. I took her up on the 18th, and on the 20th I see the things at the pawnbroker's shop.

Q. What is that pawnbroker's name? Davis. They are in court ready to be produced.

Q.Where is your father? - He knows nothing at all about the property, he leaves it all entirely to me, he would not know them if he was to see them.

Q. Have you a mother living? - No, I have no mother.


I am a pawnbroker; the prisoner at the bar pawned two flat irons with me, on the 17th of December.

Q. You gave her a duplicate? - I did, the constable has got them.

Q. Did she pawn any thing else with you? - Nothing else.


On the 18th of December last, I was sent for to the house of Webb's, in Dartmouth-row, and was informed that the prisoner had robbed her lodgings; I searched the woman and found between fifty and sixty duplicates, among which were several that led to the discovery of several of these articles now produced.

Dessol. I am sure they are the same that I took in of that woman; the tickets were sewed on them as soon as I took them in.

Q. Look at the duplicate that, belongs to the iron, and tell me whether that is your duplicate? - That is the duplicate I gave to the prisoner.

Webb. These are my father's irons, I have had them a great while in the house, and used them much.

Q. to Messenger. What other duplicates have you that respect this property? - Here is one for a curtain at Davis's, the 10th of December, and another on the 6th of December, says curtains, it don't say how many; the 19th of November, a quilt; the same day, a sheet; the 22d of November, a sheet.


I am a pawnbroker; I lived in Broad St. Giles's, I am moved now.

Q. Did the prisoner at any time pawn things with you? - She pawned several articles which the constable has mentioned, but I took in but two of them myself.

Q. Who took in the other two? - I cannot say which of my lads it was, but I have produced all I have in her name here.

Q. What are the articles? - Two bed curtains, on the 6th of December, I took them in myself, and a bed quilt.

Q.You are sure it was the prisoner that brought them in? - Yes; I asked her if they were her own? she said she never pledged any thing belonging to any person but herself. The ticket of the bed quilt is fell off some how, but I am sure I took it in of the prisoner; I have found it now, it is the 19th of November.

Q. to Messenger, Shew her the twoduplicates that relate to these things found on the prisoner.

Q. To Davis. Were those two duplicates given to the prisoner? - They were.

Webb. Were these curtains let to this woman as part of the furniture of the lodging? - Yes, they were.

Q. To Davis. With respect to the other goods, you can only say they are goods pawned in the name of Elizabeth Dickson? - No, they were pawned in the name of Mary Smith, they are none pawned in her own real name, but all in the name of Mary Smith.

Messenger. Them in the Armory, pawned at Mr. Wright's, are in the name of Elizabeth Nix.

Q. To Davis. What do those goods consist of, that you did not take in personally? - A tea kettle; two sheets, in two different tickets, one for eighteen-pence, and the other for a shilling, the one is the 22d of November, and the other is the 19th.

Q. And the tickets found on the prisoner correspond? - They are cut one from the other, they must match the same as a bank note.

Q.Was there any thing else besides these two separate sheets? - Yes, one window curtain, the 10th of December.

Q. The ticket and the duplicate tally? - Yes, they all do that.

Q. To Webb. Look at these effects, and tell me whether they are part of the effects let to this woman, as part of the furniture of her lodgings? - Yes, they are.

Davis. Mrs. Webb did see them at my house, and at the justice's, and swore to them.

Prisoner. I was very much distressed, or else I should not have done it; I never left my lodging, I only begged for the next morning, and I would replace every thing; I paid a week's rent, and six-pence off the other; I owed her but a fortnight, I never meant to leave my lodgings till I had put every thing in its place, and if she had only granted the favour till the next morning I should have put every thing in its place, but she was very much enraged against me, and ordered the door to be locked and bolted, least I should get out of the place, which I never wished to leave the place till I had replaced the things.

GUILTY . (Aged 13.)

Transported for Seven years .

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

93. EDWARD FOY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 8th of December , two pint pewter pots, value 2s. the goods of James Born .


I live in Kirby-street, Hatton-garden, in the parish of St. Andrew's, Holborn; I went to get in my pots myself on the 8th of December; when I went to No.22, Charles-street, Hatton-garden ; I had sent two pint pots to that house the over night, and when I came to fetch them, the person whom I used to serve with beer, had put them in the stair case window, I found only one, but I had missed one about a week before.

Q. We can only go on one, there ought to have been two different counts. Of which have you the best evidence? - That of the 7th at night; I found it in the prisoner's pocket myself; he is a taylor , he lodged at the house at the time, he said he had put it in his pocket with intent to bring it home.

Q. Was he charged with it? - Yes, in my hearing; he was charged with having the pots in his possession, and he denied it.

Q. When was he charged with it? - On the 8th of December, he said he had not got them.

Q. How long was it before you searched him? - It was at the same time we went to search him.

Mr. Knapp. What public house do you keep? - The Hole in the Wall, Kirby-street, Hatton-garden.

Q. You had been to send liquor to this house before? - I had.

Q. I understand, at the first, before you made any search at all, this man denied having any pots in his possession? - Yes.

Q. He had dealt at your house before? - He had not.

Q. But the house had? - The woman that I served in the house had put them in the stair case window, she always put them there.


I am an officer of Hatton-garden; on the 8th of December, this gentleman came to the office for a search warrant, I went to execute the warrant with him; I see the prisoner and I told him I had a warrant to search his apartment after one pint pot, after I had searched a considerable time Mr. Born touched me on the shoulder, and said, I had no occasion to search him any longer.

Q. Did you see any thing taken out of the prisoner's pocket? - I took one out of his right hand pocket.

Q. Is the pot here? - Yes. (Produced.)

Mr. Knapp. What office do you belong to? - To Hatton-garden.

Q. You heard the prisoner say that he was going to take them home? - I believe I did.

Q.Have you any doubt that he did say so? - No, I have no doubt about it.

Prosecutor. I his is my pot which I can swear to; that is the pot I lost on the 8th. I. F. B. on the handle; James Born , Hole in the Wall, Kirby-street, Hatton garden, No. 53, on the side of the pot.

Prisoner. One day as I was coming up stairs, I took the pot out of the window to take some warer up in it, and when I was asked at first I forgot it, and said I had none, and I was so terrisied seeing it along with my rags while they were searching that I put it in my pocket in order to put it out of the door, and they detected me.

The prisoner called two witnesses who gave him a good character.

GUILTY, Of stealing one pot . (Aged 45.)

Imprisoned six months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s .

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before

Mr. Justice HEATH.

94. RICHARD HARDING was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 3d of December , a gallon and a half of porter, value 18d. the goods of Samuel Whitbread , the elder , Esq .


I am storehouse clerk to Mr. Whitbread.

Q. What was the prisoner? - A labourer .

Q. With you? - Yes, as a person employed about the yard.

Q.What happened on the 3d of December? - Between five and six o'clock in the evening, I observed the prisoner to come out of the store cellar with a pail nearly full of beer; I asked him what he meant to do with it? and when he saw me he attempted to run away, however, I took him, and asked him what he meant to do with that beer? he said it was for himself and the rest of the servants to drink; he made me no other answer; I told him he had no right to go there for beer, there was good beer allowed, small beer and porter mixed; he said it was wrong; says I, come along with me to the counting house, and hear what the manager will say to you; and he followed me down with the pail in his hand, and the manager sent for a constable.

Q. Was the cellar out of which he took this small matter of beer open? - It was open at the time.

Q. What is contained in it? - Porter after being brewed.

Q. Is it porter fresh brewed or fit for sale? - It was fresh, it was but young mild porter; we were doing some repairs to the shop of the cellar and consequently did not lock it down.

Q. Was this the beer that was allowed? - No.

Q. What sort of a character does this man bear? - I had nothing against this man before.

Q. Why did not you give him a good scolding, or dismiss him? It is hardly worth while to ruin a man by bringing of him here.

Mr. Knapp. He liked a little porter better than small beer, and it was for himself and the men to drink.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before the


95. FREDERICK HURST was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 2d of November , a man's cloth coat, value 1l. a man's velvet waistcoat, value 5s. the goods of Philip Manley .


I am a victualler in Leather-lane Holborn ; I don't know any thing of the robbery.

Q. When did you see the things the last time before they were taken? - On the Sunday they were taken in the week, the prisoner went away from my house the 31st of October, he had lodged in my house.

Q. How did he gain his livelihood? - He said he was a taylor .

Q.How soon afterwards did you miss the things? - On the Sunday following, the 31st of October was on Friday and I missed the things on the Sunday following.

Q. Do you know when you had them before he went away? - I had them the Sunday before that, I wore them.

Q. Are the things here? - Yes. He did not pay his lodgings when he went. On the 25th of November I saw an advertisement that such a man had robbed his lodgings in the Borough; and I saw him at the justice's at the Borough, on the 1st of December; I suppose the things are here.

JOHN BALL sworn.

I am a pawnbroker, No. 185, Borough High-street. On the 23th of October, the prisoner pledged the waistcoat for five shillings, in the name of John Sanders.

Q. Are you sure it was the prisoner? -

Q. Had you seen him before? - Yes, twenty times probably, he had been in the habit of pledging at our house for two or three months before the date of this; on the 1st of November we pledged the coat for a guinea.

Prosecutor. This is my coat and waistcoat, I have no doubt at all.

Bad. In the pocket of the coat was an handkerchief which he did not see at first, that Mr. Manley swore to.

Prisoner. I found the duplicates in the prosecutor's house, coming down stairs, one morning; I lodged there for about a fortnight.

GUILTY . (Aged 16.)

Transported for Seven years .

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

96. PHINEHAS JACOBS and LAZARUS LAZARUS were indicted for that they, on the 10th of December , sixteen pieces of false and counterfeit milled money to the likeness of a shilling, and six ditto to the likeness of a sixpence, the same not being cut in pieces, unlawfully and feloniously did put off to one John Pinnicad , at a lower rate than what they imported to be for, that is to say, for half a guinea; against the form of the statute, and against the King's peace .

The case opened by Mr. Cullen.


Q. You are an officer, I believe, in the public office, Worship street? - I am an extra officer .

Q. In consequence of some information received at that office, I don't say what that was, you was directed to go to the sign of the Black Lion, Petticoat-lane, Whitechapel ? - I was.

Q. When was this you went? - The 9th of December, the first day I went to that house, I went there with a friend who went there to recommend me.

Q. Be so good as to confine your evidence to the 10th, the next day? - I went on the 10th day again, the same person went with me as before; and him and I were nearly two hours in a back room in that house, one Simon's house, who keeps the Black Lion, in Petticoat-lane. We asked the servant whether Jacobs was there or Lazarus? they neither of them were in that house at that time; he came in afterwards and asked what was wanting.

Q. Who did that? - Phinehas Jacobs; he came in and opened the door, and knew the person that was with me, that recommended me, and asked what was wanting? he knew him, he had purchased before that; he then went out with him to the back door and had some conversation with him.

Q. You did not go with him? - I did not go out of the room.

Q. What past after that? How long did they continue together? - I look upon it about ten minutes. Then Lazarus came in and told me there were eighteen shillings for my half guinea; I asked him if that was all his master could afford for half a guinea? and he said yes. I understood by the appearance that Jacobs was his master.

Q. They were both in the house at this time? - Yes, both in the house.

Q. It was Jacobs and your friend that went together, and conversed at the back door? - Yes, Jacobs and my friend. I beg your pardon, gentlemen, I am wrong in the sum, that day I had twenty-four shillings for the half guinea.

Q. Then that question of his master's not affoding any more, was not on the 10th? - It was not, it was on the 9th; on the 10th I had twenty-four.

Q. On what day was it your enquired for the prisoner, and they were not there at the Black Lion, and soon after Phinehas Jacobs came and and asked what was wanted? - Equally the 9th and 10th.

Q. Did Lazarus give you the twenty-four the 10th? - Lazarus gave me the four and twenty that day, twenty-four shillings for half a guinea.

Q. Did you give him half a guinea? - I gave him a guinea, I had never an half guinea, he went to the bar and got change, and returned me half a guinea.

Q. Did you see Jacobs again that day? - I saw Jacobs at that very time. I asked if any of these shillings were to turn bad, whether he would change them? he said, bring them back, that either he or Lazarus would give other shillings for them at any time.

Q. What did you do with that money you got? - Immediately after I received it, I took it to Esq. Colquohoun and shewed it to him.

Q.What is become of them now? - I have them, I have had them ever since.

Q. Produce the tenth day's purchase. What were done with the prisoners? were they apprehended? - They were apprehended on the 13th, and taken before the magistrate, at Worship-street; I was present at the examination and search.

Q. What was found on them? - Ten Shillings found on Lazarus to the best of my knowledge, and I think there was one bad shilling found on Jacobs and a bad sixpence.

Q. Were they bad or good found on Lazarus? - Bad; the officers has got that money.

Mr. Knapp. Let us understand a little. You went them to this Black Lion public house? - I did.

Q. By the desire of the magistrate? - I did.

Q. Did you ask for these two persons? - My friend that was with me asked for them.

Q. Your friend went with Jacobs to the back door? - They did.

Q. The twenty-four that Lazarus gave you, was at the time that Jacobs was talking to your friend? - Yes, at the time that they were conversing.

Q.At that very time the transaction took place of Lazarus giving you twenty-four for half a guinea? - Lazarus was dispatched by Jacobs.

Q. Don't tell us about dispatch. Did it not pass during the time of the conversation? - It did, they were in conversation the whole of the time.

Q. Mr. Pinnicad, this is not the first time you have made your appearance here as a witness for the mint? - It is not.

Q. How many times have you had the good fortune to be employed in prosecutions of this sort? - Once before.

Q. That was the last session? - The session before last.

Q. How many times have you been employed to apprehend different offenderd? - That is not what I am sworn to.

Q. How many times have you been employed by the Mint to apprehend different offenders? - Once before, Esq. Colquohoun ordered me.

Q. Let us ask whether any thing past between you and Lazarus, before he gave you the twenty-four shillings? - No, there had not.

Q. Had you said any thing to him before that time? - No otherwise than this, when he came into the room he said here is this for you for half a guinea. I did not speak to Lazarus that day at all.

Q. Will you have the goodness to tell us what line of life you are in? - I am a bricklayer by trade.

Q. You do business for yourself? - I do.

Q. Pray have you always gone by the name that you now have? - I have, upon my oath.

Q. Perhaps I may put you in mind of other names. Do you recollect the name of Fillimore? - No, I do not recollect; how is it possible? you cannot make it appear.

Q. You can give me a plain answer, on your oath? - Upon my oath I never went by any other name than that I go by now.

Mr. Cullen. You have been asked whether at the time Lazarus gave you that money, that Jacobs and your friend were not conversing together? - They were.

Q. How near were they to you? - About as near as that gentleman is to me

Q. In the same room? - There was a door come out into a passage, and they stood at the left hand side of that door way, and I was in the room


Q.Were you at the public office when the prisoners were brought there andexamined? - I was one that went and apprehended them; I searched Jacobs, myself. I found nothing but these two pieces. (Produces them.)

Q.Have you kept these two pieces ever since? - Ever since.

Q. Who searched Lazarus? - Ferris; there were four officers or us.


I am a constable belonging to the police office, in Worship-street.

Q. You apprehended these prisoners along with Harper? - I did; I apprehended Lazarus and searched him, and on him I found eight bad shillings and four sixpences, all done up in a parcel, I have kept it ever since. (Produced.)

Q.Did you find any other money? - I believe there were three or four pennyworth of halfpence and a farthing, no good silver at all.


I had warrants to go and apprehend each of the prisoners; in company with the other officers on Saturday, the 13th of December, we went into the house and shut the door; I said to Pinnicad is the men here; he pointed them out and we took them; I see Mr. Ferris search Lazarus and find ten shillings have money, and three or four penny worth of halfpence.

Q. You have had a good deal of experience of had money, look at that money, and tell us whether it is bad or good? (the twenty four shillings shown him) - They are bad; the ten-shillings shewn him) they are bad.

Mr. Knapp submitted to the court that the act of parliament upon which this indictment was forward expressed it to be counterfeiting milled money and this money had not been so proved.

The court observed there was a case before the judges of that sort not yet decided.

Mr. Knapp likewise submitted that this was not a case to go to the jury on the part of Jacobs, because he had not put off the money, but Lazarus alone.

The court observed that was a fact for the jury to determine, how far he was concerned in the transaction.

The prisoner Jacobs called two witnesses and the prisoner Lazarus one, who gave them good characters.

Phaehas Jacobs, GUILTY . (Aged 26.)

Lazarus Lazarus, GUILTY (Aged 24)

Judgment respited.

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

97. MICHAEL DECOURCY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 1st of January , a sowing piece, value 5s. a cloth gun bag, value 1s. the goods of John Hobson .


I keep the Orange tree, Orange-street, Bloomsbury . On the 1st of January, on or about twelve o'clock, the prisoner at the bar in company with one Williams and a girl, came into my house and called for a pint of gin, which I served him with myself, he said he wanted to write a letter, enquiring at the same time for a Mrs Ainsworth , whether she was in town, I informed him she was, in the course of half an hour they had another three penny worth, that I likewise served them, and they paid the reckoning and went away; they staid from about twelve o'clock til two; enter about six o'clock, the prisoner at the bar, in company with Williams returned again, the prisoner at the bar asked me for a sheet on paper, and pen and ink, and three-penny worth of gin and water,which I served him with myself, during this time they pretended to write a letter in my parlour, about three quarters of an hour; Williams afterwards came and asked for a wafer, and at the same time holds up the letter before my face, which gave me a suspicion; I went immediately to the parlour and missed my gun; I secured Williams immediately; Decourcy went out.

Q. When did you see this gun before it was taken? - The gun was in a woollen bag, and I had seen it about two or three minutes before I missed it. I then threatened Williams to send for a constable.

Q. Is the gun here? - Yes.

Mr. Knapp. I believe this young man was drunk? - It did not at all appear to me.

Q. Have you had occasion to know that that young man is creditably connected? - Not from any good authority.


Q. You have got a gun? - Yes, I was sent for on the 1st of January, by Mr. Hobson, about seven o'clock in the evening; at that time he had one Williams in custody.

Q. How came you by the gun? - I went by the directions that Williams gave him; I pursued the prisoner and took him at a public house along with a girl; the Blue lion, Red lion passage, Red-lion-square, and brought him back with the gun; he said, he only borrowed it to go out a shooting one afternoon and he would have brought it back the next day.

Mr. Knapp. Was he drunk or sober? - To the best of my recollection he was perfectly sober.

Q. You took him at another public house, and he came from the Orange-tree? - Yes.

Prosecutor. That is my property; I know it by the particular figure and general appearance; I have had it to the best of my recollection two years, or two years and a half

Q. Have you any doubt about it? - None in the least.

Prisoner. I have nothing more to say than that I was brought up in the navy, and till now, have ever borne an irreproachable character. According to the prosecutor's own account I must be in liquor, for I had been drinking gin and water in the morning and afternoon; I did take the gun, but with no intent to sell it or make away with it; I was inebriated when I did it, and did it in consequence of a wager; Williams laid me a wager that I dare not take the gun out and go a shooting, and I took the gun out.

Mr. Knapp. Williams was taken up on this? he has been pressed, has he not? - I was informed so.


I was captain's clerk on board the Gorgon; the prisoner at the bar, was a midshipman, I believe he is respectably connected, he was strictly honest and beloved by every body on board, particularly by Captain Parker and the officers. We went round the world together; we doubled Cape Horn, and the Cape of Good Hope twice, he was on board the Gorgon better than eighteen months with me.

Jury to Prosecutor. Was you acquainted with him before? - I never see him till that day, the 1st of January.

Q.Was Williams acquainted with you? - I never see either of them till that day twelve o'clock, to my knowledge.

GUILTY . (Aged 22.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

98. THOMAS COOPER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 22d of December , a silver watch, value 4l. a steel watch chain, value 4d. a base metal seal, value 1d. and a base metal watch key, value 1d. the goods of Charles Black , in the dwelling house of Edward Strong .

Charles Black and witnesses were called on their recognizances, and not appearing the prisoner was


99. JAMES PEPPERDY was indicted for that he, on 22d of July , being a person employed in sorting packages and letters , in the parish St. Mary Woolnorth, London , sent by the post to the general Post office on the same day, a certain letter, lately before sent by one Joseph Robinson , by the post from Stamford, in the county of Lincoln, directed to Messrs. Foster, Lubbock, and Co. London; containing a certain bill of exchange, numbered 3597, dated, Leicester, 21st of July 1794, signed and subscribed by one Edward Hodges , directed to Sir James Esdaile and Co. London, by which bill of exchange, the said Edward Hodges requested the said Sir James Esdaile and Co. thirty days after date, to pay to the order of Messrs. Joseph Robinson 493l. 13s. 6d. for value received, came to his hands and possession, being such person so employed in sorting letters and packages as aforesaid, and that he, afterwards in the same day and in the same parish, then and there having the said letter so employed as aforesaid, feloniously did secret the said letter, containing the said bill of exchange, the said bill of exchange being the property of Joseph Robinson , and the said sum of 493l. 13s. 6d. being then due and unsatisfied to him .

Indicted in a second COUNT, for the same offence in the same manner, only calling it a packet instead of a letter.

In a third and fourth COUNTS, for the same offence, only laying it to be the property of Edward Foster , John Lubbock , Samuel Bosanquet and Co .

And four other COUNTS, for stealing out of the said letter and packet, the said bill of exchange.

The indictment opened by Mr. Culles, and the case by Mr. Garrow.


Examined by Mr. Fielding.

Q. I believe you are a merchant at Stamford? - Yes.

Q. Had you in the month of July last, any occasion to transmit any bills to town? - I enclosed seventeen bills to Messrs. Foster, Lubbock and Co. to the amount of seven hundred and forty-four pounds.

Q. Some of those were country bank bills, others bills of exchange? - Yes.

Q. Did you yourself take a memorandum of the numbers and descriptions of these bills? - I had them copied by my clerk.

Q. In what manner was the copying done? - I ordered him to take down such numbers, and to copy them in the book from the face of the bills.

Q. When this was compleated were they put in a cover? - I enclosed them myself in the letter, and directed it, and gave it him to put in the office.

Q. Who was the person you gave the letter to, to put in the Post Office? - Hollis Gillchrist.


Q. You live with Mr. Robinson? - Yes.

Q. Do you remember any notes sent to London the 21st of July last? - Yes.

Q. Did you copy the notes? - I did, in a book, I have got a leaf out of the book.

Q. Is that the copy? - Yes.

Q. Just tell my lord how many notes there were. - Seventeen.

Q. How many notes were country bank notes, payable to bearer? - Eleven.

Q. What were the other notes? what description of notes? - Bills of exchange.

Q. Was there a bill of exchange, No. 3597, on Sir James Esdaile? - Yes.

Q. Look at that bill of exchange, there is a private mark of your own at the bottom, is that there? - Yes.

Q. Is that the enclosed bill of exchange by you principal Mr. Robinson, in the letter?

Court. Do you say you put a mark yourself from the bill? - Yes.

Mr. Fielding to Robinson. Is that the letter that enclosed these notes? (A letter shewn him) - It is.

Q. Do you know that note? (The note shewn him) - It has my indorsement.

Mr. Fielding to Gillchrist. When your master had put the notes in that letter, did you carry the letter to the Post office on the 21st? - I did.

Q.Who is the person that keeps the Post at Stamford? - Mrs. Gardiner.

Court. What day of the week was this? - Monday, between the hours of one and three.

Mr. Knowlys. Was that mark that you put on, after you saw it at the office in London, or before you put it into the letter box? - Before I put it into the letter box.

Mr. Garrow. What is the mark? - The number that stands in our bill book -


Q. I believe you are the post mistress a Stamford? - I am.

Q. Were all the letters of the 21st of July from Stamford to London, regularly transmitted by the post? - They were.

Q. You know that of your own knowledge? - I was present during the time they were packed up, I made them up myself, and my servant sealed the bag in my presence.

Q. They would arrive in the regular course on Tuesday, the 22d? - It ought to arrive in London at that time.

Mr. Knowlys. All that you mean to say is, that so far as you know all the letters that were put in your box, were made up and sent regular? - I cannot identify any particular letter, it is not possible to remember.

Q. Pray is your's a shop, or what? - No, it is a private house,

Q. Who has the management of the business besides yourself? - I am assisted by a servant, I was present during the making up of the goods, and saw the bag sealed.

Q. Your servant that had access to this place where the letters are put, he is not here? - He is not.

Mr. Garrow. Did you charge the letters that day yourself? - Most of them I did. (Shewn the letters.) That is my hand writing.

Q. Then you are sure that that came? - It certainly came in due course from the Post office.


Q. I believe you are clerk to the general Post office, London? - I am.

Q. Did the mail from Stamford, on the 21st of July, arrive in due course on the morning of the 22d? - It did, I opened the Stamford bag.

Q. At what time of the morning did it arrive? - Between the hours of six and nine, the usual time.

Q. Did it appear regularly sealed as it came from Stamford? - It was as it usually comes

Q. Be so good as to look at that letter, and see if it appears to have the post mark of the arrival on the 22d? - Just so.

Q. Looking at that with that mark, which is a Post office mark of the 22d of July, have you any doubt that it was transmitted from Stamford by the post which set off from Stamford on the 21st? - I have no doubt.

Mr. Knapp. That is a mark on that letter of a stamper belonging to the Post office; Farmer, who was tried here last session, was a stamper in the Post office, was not he? - He was.

Q. He was tried for a capital offence, and convicted last session? - I believe he was, I was not concerned in that.

Q. All that you mean to say is, that it has the appearance of a letter that comes from Stamford, with that mark on it? - Certainly.

Q. It must have come into the possession of a stamper to be stamped? - Certainly so.

Court. Does the stamper receive it before or after the forter? - Before.

Mr. Garrow. By that stamp you have no doubt it was transmitted regularly to London? - I have not the least doubt.

Q. Who stamps it I don't care any thing about.


Q. I believe you are clerk in the house of Messrs. Foster and Co. - Yes, I am.

Q. Be so good as to give us their names? - Edward Foster , John Lubbock , William Bosanquet , Samuel Bosanquet , and John Alden Clarke.

Q. In the month of July last, was Mr. Robinson of Stamford a correspondent of your house? - He was.

Q. Did that letter or any of its enclosures ever come to the hands of any persons of your house? - Not to my knowledge.

Q. From your situation should you have known it if it had come? - Yes, I should.

Q. What would have been your duty in respect to that letter on its arrival? - To write it in a particular book, where I make minutes of all I receive.

Q. Be so good as to cast your eye on this bill of exchange, which is one of those supposed to be enclosed in it; did that ever come to your house? - Never.

Q. If it had, must you not have known it? - Yes, I must have known it if it had come in a letter.


Q. You are deputy inspector of the letter carriers in the Post office? - Yes.

Q. On the 22d of July last was the prisoner employed there as a sorter of letters? - He was employed as a letter carrier and resorter of letters; he resorted them after they came to the letter carrier's office, in the division he was in.

Q. When the mails are opened, what is the first thing done with the letters? - They are carried to be faced and then stamped.

Q. The letters brought by the mails are stamped with the day of the month? - They are.

Q. And then they are distributed into twelve divisions and sorted? - Yes, in the letter carriers office.

Q. In which division did the prisoner at the bar act as a sorter on the 22d of July? - In the eighth.

Q. He was likewise a letter carrier on that day? - He was.

Q.Was Mansion House-street, within the district of which he was a carrier on that day? - No, it is not, nor in the division.

Q. In the regular course and without the intervention of some mistake a letter to Mansion House-street would not have gone to the eighth division? - No, it would not.

Q. There is a previous sorting before they come to the twelve different divisions? - There are, into the twelve divisions in the inland office.

Q. If I understand you right, the division No. 1, is intended to take in a certain number of districts in this street and this street? - It does.

Q. And No. 2, a certain number of other streets, and after that they are delivered to the letter carriers to sort for the conveniency of their delivery? - Yes, and therefore I call it resorting.

Q. Does it sometimes happen that the first sorting in the inland office is not correct, so that a letter that belongs to division 12 finds it way to division 8, and so on? - It happens every day repeatedly so.

Q. In that case is it the duty of the letter carrier who finds one that does not belong to him to throw it to the division to which it does belong? - It is.

Q. Then after they have gone through the resorting, each of the letter carriers takes his letters of his own division to deliver them? - Yes.

Q. Will you look at this letter? does this letter appear to be brought to London on the 22d of July? - It has the post mark of that day and should have been delivered that day, I have no doubt.

Q. You have a new stamp for every day? - Yes.

Q. So that a stamp that is used for a letter that comes to day cannot be used for a letter that comes to-morrow? - It cannot.

Mr. Knowlys. The prisoner at the bar was a person in the office known by the name of a letter carrier? - He was.

Q. There is a description known by the title of sorters? - Sub-sorters we call them; they are employed in the inland office, for the letter carriers office.

Q. Then there it is that all the letters are sorted as you call it? - Yes, and they are resorted again by the carriers in each division among themselves.

Q. The prisoner is not at all employed in the inland office? - I rather apprehend the prisoner at the bar could not be employed in the inland office, because he was taking charge of his own division that day.

Q. On that day, the 22d of July, was not the prisoner employed as a charger of letters? - He was employed as charge-taker in the division where he was.

Q. What is the business of the charge-taker? - To take the amount of the letters to each of his partners.

Q. Then he was busy in resettling the different charges with his partners, and not in resorting letters? - If there was a letter that did not belong to him, either he or his partners should throw it over to where it did belong.

Q. The charge-taker is so far occupied with taking the charges that he has no time to sort them at all? - If there are any missorted he has to give them round to where they do belong. It is very seldom they have time to resort themselves, only those that come wrong to throw round where they ought to be.

Q. In general, the charge-taker is more occupied in settling the charge than to find time in sorting the letters themselves. How many charge-takers are there? - One in each division.

Q. If the letters are sorted correctly it could not be in that division? - It could not.

Q. Before they get to the sorting there is an operation which they call stamping? - There is.

Q. Do you know a man of the name of Farmer? - Yes, I do.

Q. He was tried here last session for secreting letters? - I understand so, I was not on his trial.

Q. Was not he a person employed in stamping letters? - I cannot take on myself to say whether he was employed on that day.

Q. He was a stamper of letters? - He was.

Q. The letters first of all come to the hands of the stampers, and may, if they are dishonestly disposed, be conveyed away by them? - Certainly.

Mr. Garrow. The person who is employed as charge-taker is not likely to be much employed in sorting letters for the particular division, but if any letters are sent from the inland office into his division through mistake, it would come through his hands? - Most likely.

Q. Suppose a sorter in the inland office had sent a letter into the eighth division, directed to Mansion house-street, would it have been likely to have fallen into his hands as charge-taker? - It would so.

Q. That is a thing that happens every day you say? - It does.

Q. If there is an enquiry about a letter that is not delivered, who is questioned about it? - We make a general enquiry. When a letter is missing we are in the habit to make a public enquiry among all the letter carriers when they are there.

Q. Was the prisoner, in point of fact, a person employed in sorting letters and packets in the General Post office? - So far as this, if any were misplaced he had to throw them to the proper box where they ought to be.

Court. On July the 22d, was the prisoner so employed as a sorter of letters? - In resorting those that were missorted to him.

Q. If I understand you right, this man was employed in the eighth division? - He was.

Q. What was his business in the eighth division? - As charging the letters, making up the charge with his partner in that division, and resorting any letters that were wrong in that division.

Mr. Garrow. Then supposing it to have happened in the course of that day that twenty letters were missorted to the eighth division, was it his duty to have sorted them right? - Yes, it was.

Q. And in point of fact, hardly a day passes without such missorting? - Hardly a day passes without.

Court. In the first place, there is the business of a sorter in the office? - Yes.

Q. This man was not engaged on that day as a sorter of letters? - He was not employed that day in that, to that eighth division that man was what we call a charge-taker.

Q. It is his business to sort the letters? - No, it is not, by reason he is occupied in making his charges.

Q.Then you have other men that sort the letters while he is making up the charges? - Yes.

Q. Are there any different description of people in your office, the letter carriers and sorters, or do the letter carriers sort? - They resort among themselves.

Q. Then when they come to the resorter of letters, how many are appointed charge-takers? - One man in each division.

Q. If I understand you right, the man that is charge-taker of that day, is employed in taking the charges, and other people are employed in sorting the letters, but if it happens that in any other division any letter is missorted, does it come to his hands or to the sorters? - It comes to his hands by the sorters in the division to which it belongs.

Q. Are you sure that a letter that belongs to another division, and comes to the right division, goes through the hands of the charge-taker? - It most likely comes to the sorters first. If the letter happens not to be in its place and missorted, and happens to be in the division where it ought not, that sorter would give it to the charge-taker to take it to its proper place.

Q.What does the charge-taker do with them? - He has an alphabet of all the other divisions in the office, and he sends it down to the proper division.

Q. But what does he do with it? - He carries it to the proper division.

Q. You say there are alphabets, and the letters that are missorted are put under those alphabets; are those that are missorted applied to the general mass of letters, or separated and kept by themselves? - They are thrown into the proper boxes where they belong to.

Q. Where are these letters carried by the charge-taker? - They are thrown into the boxes, and the people who are there take them to where they belong. There are boxes numbered with all the other eleven divisions, over the charge-taker's seat, where they throw the missorted letters, and the charge taker or some of his partners take them round.


Q. You are inspector of the letter carriers? - Yes.

Q. I would just ask you this; does it frequently happen that there are several letters missorted from the inland office into the letter carriers office? - Frequently.

Q. Are these, as the last witness represented, put by the different letter carriers into the charge-taker's box? - They are taken to him to subsort for the different divisions.

Q. Is the charge-taker employed in sorting letters for the different divisions? - Those that are missorted to his division.

Q. Those may be more or sewer? - Certainly.

Q. But every day some? - Mostly.

Q. On the 29th of October last the prisoner was taken into custody? - He was.

Q. Did you in consequence of that go to his dwelling house? - I did, to No. 5, Leonard-street, Holywell-street.

Q. Was the prisoner there? - No.

Q. Did you receive any key from the prisoner at the bar? - I did, the key of his desk, a bureau desk.

Q. Was it locked when you went to his house? - It was.

Q. Did you open it? - I did.

Q. What did you find there? - A quantity of letters.

Q. How many in number? - I really do not recollect; fifty or sixty, or an hundred.

Q. Were they addressed to the prisoner or different persons? - To different persons in London.

Q. Did they appear to have passed through the General Post office? - They did.

Q. Did any considerable number of them appear to have been double letters, or to have had enclosures? - They were.

Q. Did any of them appear still to have the contents that was transmitted in them? - I did not open them.

Q. Among others, will you cast your eye on this? did you see this? a letter directed to Messrs. Forster and Co. - I did.

Q. You put a mark on it? - I did.

Mr. Knapp. You attended the last session, on the trial of Farmer? - I did not.

Q. You know Farmer was convicted last session, was he not? - Yes.

Q. He was a stamper in the Post office? - He was.

Q.These letters are stamped before they go to the letter carriers? - They are.

Q. How long had Farmer been in the office? - About five or six years.

Q.How long had the prisoner? - About two years and a half.

Q. Do you know that Farmer was frequently with the prisoner at the bar, used to go to his lodgings frequently? - I don't know that.

Court. Was that letter opened at the prisoner's lodgings? - It was open as it is now.

Q. Was there any thing in it? - Nothing.

Mr. Knapp. We understand from the last witness that the prisoner at the bar was a charge-taker? - Yes.

Q. There is one letter carrier in each division who has that employment? - Yes.

Q. You told us just now that he gave you the key of his bureau, did you then go with any peace officer to him? - I told him if he did not give the keys they would be broke open by a proper peace officer.


On the 29th of October I was fetched from the Bank by the comotroller of the Post office, to take Pepperdy in custody, and after we brought him before the comptroller, I thought it right to search Pepperdy and Farmer. Pepperdy gave up the keys to Ferguson and me; Ferguson and myself went to his lodgings, No. 5, Leonard-street, Holywell street, and we opened the bureau where there was a large quantity of letters together, with some bills of exchange, which I put my hand upon first, six, I believe, and brought them away. (The bill of exchange shewn him.) This is one, and there were many more letters, a great number indeed. I did not find any in letters, I put my hand on these six, and I said to Mr. Ferguson, here appears to be a good group. (Five others shewn him.)

Q. Are these the other five? - Yes, they are all marked with the initials of my name, and the day of the month; I marked them at the office.

Mr. Knowlys. You did not mark them the moment you took them.

Mr. Garrow. Did you mark them before you parted with them? - As a matter of course.

Mr. Garrow to Robinson Be so good to look at the other five and see if they are part of the enclosure of the remittance you made to Messrs. Foster? - They are, they have all my endorsement.


(The bill of exchange shewn him.)

Q. I believe that is your signature to the bill in question? - It is.

Q. On the 22d of July had it been paid? I have received all the money of Mr. Robinson.

Q.Had it been paid then? - No, it is thirty days after date.(The letter read by the clerk of the court.)

Directed to "Messrs. Forster, Lubbock and Co. London. Gentlemen, enclosed is seventeen bills, seven hundred and forty four pounds thirteen shillings and sixpence; please to acknowledge the receipt to your obedient servant, J. Robinson, Stamford."(The bill read.)

"No. 3597. Four hundred and ninety three pounds thirteen shillings and sixpence. Leicester, July 21, 1794. Thirty days after date, pay to the order of Mr. Joseph Robinson , for hundred and ninety-three pounds thirteen shillings and sixpence, for value received, Edward Hodges."

To Sir James Esdaile , Esdaile, Smith. Wright, Hammet, and Co. bankers, London."

Mr. Knowlys to Ferguson. I believe this person was recommended to the office by Lord Hitchinbroke to Lord Walsingham? - He was.

Q. If he had not been a person of good character he would not have remained there? - Certainly not.

Prisoner. I can refer myself for my character to the gentlemen of the office who are here, Mr. Ferguson and Mr. Sparkes.

Mr. Knowlys to Mr. Sparkes. I believe you are in the Post office? - I am.

Q. How long have you known this young man? - From the time of his being appointed.

Q. What character did he bear? - A very good character till this charge was made against him.


Q. I believe you are the mother of the prisoner's wife? - Yes, I am.

Q. I believe your daughter that married him is dead? - Yes, she has been dead these eleven months.

Q. Do you know a person of the name of Farmer? - Yes, I do.

Q. Do you mean the person that was tried for taking the letters from the Post office? - Yes.

Q. Do you know whether he was intimate with the prisoner at the bar? - Yes.

Q. Was he ever at the prisoner's house? - Yes, frequently.

Q. Do you know whether he used to do any business at the prisoner's house? - I see him, but I cannot say that I took particular notice, they have been in the parlour together.

Q. Is that the room where the bureau is kept? - Yes.

Q. Do you know of your own knowledge whether he had access to the prisoner's bureau or no? - Yes, going to it as himself.

Q. Had you observed that once or more than once? - More than once, I cannot say how many times.

Mr. Garrow. When did you see Mr. Farmer there last? - It is out of my power to say when I see him last.

Q. About how long ago? - That I cannot say.

Q. How many years or months? - Not years nor yet a great many months before this circumstance happened.

Q. How many months? - I cannot say, a very short time.

Q. Could not you help one to guess to a month or two? - It might be a month before it happened.

Q. How many keys were there to the desk part of the bureau? - I never examined them.

Q. Upon your oath, did you ever hear of their being more than one in your life time? - I cannot say how many keys there were, nor did I take particular notice.

Q. How often, upon your oath, did you ever see Farmer in that room alone? - I cannot say.

Q. Will you swear that you ever did? - Yes.

Q.Have a care; will you swear that you ever see him twice there alone, your son-in-law not being present? - I cannot say, I did not take any particular notice.

Q. Will you swear that you eversee him even once in this room alone? - Yes.

Q. On what occasion? - I cannot say.

Q. Did you stay in the room at the time? - No.

Q. Was it before your daughter died? - Before my daughter died I can say nothing to.

Q. Was it before or after? - After.

Q. How long might be be there? - Not many minutes.

Q. Did you see him do any thing at the bureau? - I was doing my own business.

Q. I take it for granted, that as you was a near relation you went so that bureau yourself often? - No, I had not demands upon it.

Q. Did you often see it open? - I cannot say that I often see it open.

Q. Did you ever see it open? - Yes.

Q.What used it to contain, the desk part? - I know no more than they that were not there.

Q. You know letters when you see them? - No, I am no scholar.

Q. You know lettets that came by the post? - Yes.

Q. Did you see a good many of them when you see it opened? - I never took particular notice to look at the bureau.

Q. Where there any letters in it when you see it opened? - I cannot say.

Q. Any bills of exchange? - I cannot say.

Q. Did he carry on any trade or exarcise any business, besides that of a letter carrier? - He might for what I know, he had no business to acquaint me.

Q. Then you don't know whether he carried on any business at all? - Not to my knowledge.

Q. Was you frequently at the house? - Yes, after the death of my daughter.

Q. Did you keep the house for him? - I did.

Q. Did he write many letters? - Not to my knowledge.

Q. Did he receive many letters while you kept house for him? - NOt to my knowledge.

Q. Upon your oath, did you ever know him receive any by the post, during all the time you lived with him? - I see him receive the value of one or two or so.

Q. In how many months? - I cannot say.

Q. Not a hundred and fifty in the course of that time? - Certainly not.

Mr. Knowlys. Did Farmer use this desk as his own? - He did.

The prisoner called six more witnesses who gave him a good character.

GUILTY . Death . (Aged 26.)

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

100. FRANCIS CLARKE was indicted for feloniously making an assault on Samuel Stansworth , on the king's highway, on the 12th of December , and feloniously taking from his person and against his will, a leather sack, value 1s. four leather bags, value 1s. and 3s. 4d. in monies of our lord the King .

Indicted in a second COUNT, laying it to be the property of Samuel Stansworth .

The indictment opened by Mr. Russell, and the case by Mr. -


Q.Was you in December last an apprentice to Mr. Allen? - Yes.

Q.What age are you? - Sixteen to day.

Q. Mr. Allen he lives in Wapping I beleive? - Yes.

Q.Pray, is his house one of the receiving houses where letters for the general post office are put in? - Yes.

Q. Was you sent by him on the 12th of December last, with a bag of letters to carry to the general post office? - Yes.

Q. Pray, in your way from Wapping, was you to call at any other receiving house to take the bag from thence? - Yes, at the Armitage.

Q. Did you take the bag from the Armitage as well as your masters? - Yes.

Q. You had two then, one from Mr. Allen, and one from the Armitage? - Yes.

Q. Pray, was there any other bag contained in the bag that you carried? - Yes.

Q. The bag that you brought from your master's house did it contain any other bag? - Yes.

Q.What did the inner bag contain? - The paid letters.

Q. By the paid letters, do you mean letters that the postage of which was paid? - Yes.

Q. Did the bag contain likewise the money that was paid with them? - Yes.

Q. How much money was paid with them? - Two shillings and sixpence, a shilling, two sixpence and six pennyworth of halfpence.

Q. What did the outer bag contain of your master's? - The unpaid letters.

Q. In what was this bag put? - In a leather sack.

Q. Both bags were in a leather sack? - Yes.

Q. In your way you called at the Armitage? - Yes.

Q. What did you take from thence? - I took a bag.

Q. Did that bag cantain any other bag? - Yes, there was a frack bag and paid bag.

Q. Was there any money in that? - Ten pence, sixpence and four pennyworth of halfpence.

Q. Did any thing happen as you came along? - Yes, I was going through Star-court, Nightingale-lane , and the bags were taken from me.

Q. Were the bags separate, or all included in the leather sack? - All included in one leather sack.

Q. That was taken from you you say? - Yes.

Q. What did you do on that? - I got up and cried stop thief.

Q. How were they taken from you? - They were taken out of my hand.

Q. Was any violence offered to you before they were taken, or how? - They were snatched out of my hand after I was knocked down; the man pushed against me, and pushed me backward.

Q. Did he throw you down? - Yes, he pushed me right backward, in this manner.

Q. So as to throw you down? - Yes.

Q. When that person threw you down, what happened to you? - He wrenched the bag out of my hand, and ran off.

Q. Was you on the ground when the bag was wrenched out of your hand, or got up again? - I at that time was on the ground.

Q. Did you endeavour to hold them? - I held them pretty fast.

Q. What did he do then? - He ran off with them.

Q.What did you do then? - I got up and cried stop thief.

Q. In consequence of your crying stop thief, did any body stop him? - Yes.

Q. At the time he was stopped was he in your sight or out of it? - In my sight.

Q. You did not lose sight of him at all? - Yes, at turning round the corner of the court, only then.

Q.The person who wrenched the bag out of your hand, did turn round the corner? - Yes.

Q.After he left you, and was running, did you see him do any thing? - I see him throw the bags away into the court.

Q. Was that after you cried stop thief, or before? - After I cried stop thief.

Q. What time of the day was this? - Half after five o'clock, the 12th day of last month.

Q.It was dark, was it? - Yes.

Q. Did you come up with the person again when he was stopped? - Yes.

Q. What did you do when you came up with him again? - I came up and see the bags taken up from the ground, and given into my hands.

Q. Who took them up? - Some little child or other in the court.

Q. And they were put into your hands? - Yes.

Q. What did you do with them? - I kept them in my possession till I came before the justice, and then they were out of my sight.

Q.When you went before the justice with the bags? - Yes.

Q. Pray, when you called out stop thief, did you see any body run after the man that knocked you down? - Yes.

Q.Did you see any body lay hold of him? - Yes.

Q. Was it before or after the man laid hold of him that he threw away the bags? - Before the man laid hold of him.

Q. Pray, were the bags picked up by this child, the bags that were thrown away by the person that threw you down? - Yes.

Q. Did you see them both thrown away and picked up again? - Yes.

Court. Look at the prisoner, was he or was he not the person who threw you down? - He was the person.

Q. You are very sure he is the person? - Yes.

Q. Do you happen to know who the person was that stopped him? - Somebody that was passing by.

Mr. Knowlys. You heard a person running along the alley some time before he came up to you? - No, the person that knocked me down, he was standing still when I saw him first.

Q. When he ran against you, you fell and dropped the bag at the time? - No, I kept it in my hand.

Q. You are sure you did not drop it as you sell? - No.

Court. Did I understand you right, that you are sure that the bags did not drop as you sell, but that he wrenched them from you? - Yes.


Q. Do you remember on the 12th of December, hearing the cry of stop thief? - Yes, I heard these words expressed.

Q. At what time in the evening? - At half past five o'clock.

Q. In what place? - In Star court, one end comes into Nightingale lane.

Q. What country is it in? - Middlesex.

Q. It lays in their ad from Wapping to Lombard street? - Exactly so.

Q. What did you do on this cry of stop thief? - I see a man come running on full speed, and when I got within the space of four or five yards of him, I see him drop the bags out of his hand.

Q. Had you before that heard the cry of stop thief? - Yes, I had.

Q. And when he came within four or five yards, he dropped the bags? - Yes, just as could discern him, and he could discern me.

Q.Did you stop him when you came up with him? - No, I passed by him, and I no sooner passed by him than I turned back immediately and see him stopped, and got up to him, and took him by the collar, and asked him what he could take the boy's bags for?

Q.Was the boy come up by that time? - He was crying to me, where is the bags?

Q. Did you go to the place where you see the bags dropped? - I took the prisoner by the collar, and took him where the bags were; nobody knew where the bags were but me.

Q. Did you find the bags? - Yes, on the spot where I see him drop them.

Q. What did you do with the bags when you took them up? - I was going to take them to an officer, but a gentleman in Nightingale-lane came up and said he was an officer, and took him.

Q. Did you deliver the man in custody of that officer? did you search him? - No, I did not search him.

Q. Is that the man that was stopped? - Yes, that is the gentleman, I am very clear.

Q. You have no doubt about it, if you have for God's sake express it? - I have no doubt at all.

Q.Was there any light brought? - There was a light brought out to look for the bags.

Q. Had you an opportunity of seeing the face of the prisoner distinctly? - I had, when I first laid hold of him.

Mr. Knowlys. There was not sufficient light to distinguish what sort of a bag it was, only a bag? - No, only a bag.

Q. I dare say yourself did not suppose it was a bag particularly appointed for the carrying of letters? - No, I did not.


Q. I believe you are a constable? - No, I am a Trinity House officer, and keep a public house.

Q. Do you live near Star-court? - Yes.

Q. Did you, on the evening of the 12th of December, hear any cry of stop thief? - Yes, I believe it was about half after five, as nigh as I can recollect.

Q. Did you go out in consequence of hearing this cry? - Yes.

Q. What did you see? - When I came out I ran and I saw a quantity of people run, and I run into the mob, where I saw the prisoner and the last witness had hold of him.

Q. Did you see the last witness have hold of him before you come? - He had hold of him in my sight; I told him I was an officer; they wanted to know who I was; I told them I kept a public house just by, says I, come along with me and you will all be right; and I took the prisoner and the lad into the house; I put the boy in the bar with the bag, I took the prisoner into my back kitchen, shut the door, and searched him.

Q. What did you find? - Nothing at all but a knife what he may eat his victuals with.

Q. No money about him at all? - Nothing at all but a single knife.

Q.What did you do after you searched him? - I then sent for a coach and put him in the coach, and took him to the justice's, in Shadwell.

Q. And you took the bags along with you? - Yes, and the boy and the last witness.

Q. Did you stay there when the prisoner was examined? - I did.

Q. What became of the bags? - They were delivered to the Post office gentlemen I believe; they were sealed up.

Q. In whose custody did you leave the bags? - In Mr. Allen's, I believe, he came while I was at the justice's.


Q. You live in Wapping, I believe? - Yes.

Q. Is your house one of the receiving houses for letters? - My house is the lower receiving house in that Division, in Wapping.

Q. By whom did you send the bag of letters, on the 12th of December, in the evening, to the Post office? - By this apprentice, his name is Samuel Stansworth .

Q.What time did you send him? - Five o'clock is my time for shutting up and sealing my bags.

Q.What did you send by him? - I believe that night, there were only two bags, but on particular nights we send three, one a paid bag in the other.

Q. Where the bags sealed? - It is a rule I always make, and also it is by an order of the office, to seal the bags.

Q. Fix your attention to any one of the bags, and describe that first? - The first is the inland bag unpaid.

Q. Describe what it contains? - That is the quantity of letters that are put into my box free, the same as it is in the General Post office.

Q. Is that sealed or unsealed? - Yes, that is sealed. Then there is another bag with paid letters, and another bag with news papers, that are all entirely put in the first bag.

Q. Are these bags put in any thing else? - In a sack; and I take another bag from the Armitage, and another from Tower-hill.

Q. Was it your business to call at the Armitage and Tower-hill? - Exactly so.

Q. What time was he dispatched that evening? - I think at about a quarter to six a person came to inform me that my boy was stopped in Nightingale-lane, I immediately went up with the man to the last examined person, Mr. Butcher's house. When I came there I was told he was gone to the office; I immediately proceeded to the office in Shadwell; when I came to Shadwell the magistrate examined the prisoner at the bar.

Q. Did you see the bags there? - I did.

Q.Have you got them here? - I have; here they are.

Mr. Knowlys. Was you present at the sealing them? - Yes.

Q. Where were they sealed? - At the justice's office, before the Solicitor.

Q. Where have they been since? - They have been locked up at my house, and the money that was in the bag, the money for the paid letters.

Q. Are they in the same exact state and condition as when you see them at the office? - Yes, only that the solicitor told me to separate the money, the two shillings and sixpence from the ten-pence, which I did when I got home, I could not get a bit of sealing wax to do it at the justice's, but I did it as soon as ever I came home, and marked the separate parcels of money.

Q. Are you sure these are the bags you seat out that night? - I can swear to the bags.

Q. And you marked the separate parcels of money as soon as you came home? - Immediately so.

Q. Produce those that you sent.(Produces them) You are satisfied that all are the same? - I am.

Q. And the money sealed up as when you sealed it? - It is positively so. My money, my boy says, it is two shillings and sixpence, but I think it is two shillings and ten-pence.

Q. Open it. - It is as the boy said, two shillings and sixpence; one shilling two sixpences, and sixpennyworth of halfpence.

Q. What money did you put in the bag that night? - Two shillings and sixpence, that answered to the bill.

Q. Is the sum in the bill and the bag the same as it was? - The sum is the same, I declare on my oath; I sealed it up myself, and I open it now here for the first time.

Q.What money did the Armitage bagcontain? - Sanders's bag contained only tenpence.

Mr. Knowlys. You cannot tell what was in the Armitage bag? - I can tell so far as this, that the bag was opened before me at the justice's office, and the money delivered to me.

Q. Are these bags delivered to you from the post office? - They are.

Prisoner. On the 12th of December, I left my work a little after four o'clock, and I was going down to East Smithfield to see a brother-in-law that was at sea, in my way at the corner of Sun-yard, I was laid hold of by a press gang, and running away I ran over this lad, and there was a cry of stop thief, and I stopped just as I came to the boy, and they gave me in charge, and the constable and boy took me back to the place where he fell, and the bags were found; from thence I was taken to the public house back parlour, and from thence to the magistrate's, the magistrate sent the officer to search my habitation, and they found nothing at all amiss there. I have witnesses to my character.

The prisoner called three witnesses who gave him a good character, said he was a watch finisher , and lived in Brick-lane, Old-street.

GUILTY . Death .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

101. MARY BRYANT was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 16th of December , a copper tea kettle, value 3s. the goods of John Brown .


I am the constable that took the woman into custody with this property; a servant maid belonging to Mrs. Brown, came to me and told me that she suspected a woman had stole a tea kettle, on the 16th of December, I was going up New Gravel-lane, Shadwell, to apprehend the woman with the servant maid, and I found the prisoner at the bar with the kettle in this basket.

Q. How far is Gravel-lane from John Brown's? - About a quarter of a mile. She told me it was her own property, and I took her to the prosecutor, and had her to the magistrate, and she was bound over, and I have been and told her the consequence, and she will not attend.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

102. JAQUES SIMON DE MONTREAL was indicted for feloniously stealing, three guineas, the monies of Lewis Le Comte , in his dwelling house .


Q. Are you the wife of the prosecutor? - Yes.

Q. Where do you live? - No. 5, Little Portland-street, Mary-le-bone .

Q. Is he in any way of business? - Yes, he keeps a shop, a chandler's shop .

Q. Did you know the prisoner at the bar? - Yes.

Q. Did he lodge with you? - No, he did not. On the Saturday before this affair happened he was brought to our house, being a foreigner and could not speak English, if we could speak to him, and get him a lodging; he asked if we could get him a lodging, because he had just come from Jersey, for he had been about every where; I tried to get him a lodging, and let him sit in my parlour till the lodging was ready; on the Monday following he came in and said he was a miniature painter , and asked if I could recommend him to any body? I spoke to a lady for him, that lady came to me, and that introduced him into our parlour. The next day he came when I was out, and he sat a long time in the parlour with my husband. On the 3d of December, he came again, in the afternoon, about four o'clock, he asked if my husband was out? I told him yes; he asked me if my little girl was at the school? I told him yes; he said, tomorrow he should paint her picture; he had agreed with my husband; he asked me if I fold writing paper? he asked me if I fold hair ribbon first; I told him yes, and he had a yard; and then he asked me if I fold writing paper? I told him yes; he said, could I permit him to write in my parlour, for his room smoaked so? I told him yes; and I gave him the pen and ink, and prepared him the table, and he would not write on the table, he would write on his knee, and he drew near to the drawer where the money was in. In five minutes before he came in, I had occasion to count my money, I had a gentleman coming with a bill, and I counted fourteen guineas, thinking I might have more money.

Q. Did you lock your drawer? - No, I did not lock it. At the time of his writing I had an occasion to go into the shop, to grind some coffee; I left him in the parlour, in the same place where he was writing, close to the drawers. I ground the coffee, I was about twelve minutes in the shop, and when I went back again, he asked me for a water, and asked me for the post; I told him where it was; and he wished me a good night, and said, tomorrow morning at ten o'clock he should come and draw the child's picture. When he had been gone about five minutes, my husband came in, and I asked him if he had taken any money out of the box? he said no, and I said, why we have but fourteen guineas, and I know we ought to have near twenty; he said, he had no money in his pocket, and I took the money out of the box to shew him and there was but eleven in the box.

Q. What does your family consist of? - Nobody but a little child.

Q. No maid servant? - No maid servant in the house; there was no person in the room but this man, I shewed him the money, and I said there are three guineas now gone since this man has been here; I sent over to his lodgings and I was informed he was gone to Richmond, and should not come home all night; he came in the next night and said good morning madam, I did not come as I promised; I said, no sir, will you walk into the parlour and sit down, I went into Greek-street, to two women that knew him, and they came and he ran away at the sight of these two women.

Prisoner. Ask her why her husband is not here? - We keep a shop and he is not able to speak a word of English.

Q. Did your husband appear before the court of justice? - Yes, he did.


I am a taylor by trade. I was going to my house of call and I heard the cry of stop thief, and I went after the prisoner and collared him, and being of more strength than me, and the mob was so great they got him from me and brought him to the place where he committed the offence; I being his countryman he begged of me to sit with him; I sat with him at the watch-house till near four o'clock, and he told me -

Q. Did you tell him it would be better for him to tell the truth? - I told him if he would tell the truth very likely he would get himself off.

Q. Then we cannot hear it.

Prisoner. I am a gentleman emigrant and Frenchman, I have not the faculty of procuring any body to defend my cause, I request your lordship to hear me and take my case into consideration, and the jury also, to weigh with equity the justice of my case; I would have asked for six jurymen of my own nation, but I refer to the equity and justice of these gentlemen. It was customary for me to go to the house of Charles Le Comte , he keeps a shop and sells things that I want; on the 3d of December, I went there to purchase a hair ribbon, and I asked the liberty of writing a letter in the parlour, it was granted by her; the parlour is at the further end of the shop, I found there a woman that appeared to be a servant that carried a child, and the daughter of Le Comte about eight years of age; I wrote my letter and retired; it is true that the servant quitted the room almost instantly that the wife of Le Comte was called out of the room for a moment, but the child and the daughter remained there; on the same day I went to Richmond, to seek for a French woman which I did not find; the next day I returned and the first thing I did was to go to Charles Le Comte 's, his wife received me rather ill, called her husband and quitted the room; the husband told me that money was missing, that he had ten or twelve guineas and a bank note of ten pounds, that he found two guineas less. This declaration she made also, before the justice of peace; and that he suspected me to be the person who took it, because I had been and wrote in the parlour, but he could not convince me, that he shewed me his resentment and indignation and went to carry me before a justice of peace, then he told me that perhaps he might be mistaken; that was not sufficient for me, I returned to my lodgings were I had been four days, it was given out that I was a thief, and they would not receive me there; I returned again to Le Comte, his wife had been to the justice of peace; I saw myself attacked by a number of people, stop theif is cryed out, surprized, a stranget in this country, not knowing the usage or customs, I went to run away, I was stopped, I was beaten, they took from me what I had about me; a guinea and half and two shillings, which I had in my pocket, and I was carried before a justice of peace; the wife of Le Comte was there already; she declared that I had taken three guineas out of a box that was in the drawer, wherein there were fourteen, and a ten pound note, and the husband who did not think proper to have me arrested, declared he was not positive as to the sum he had in that drawer, that he only missed two guineas; see there is a manifest contradiction, and the wife of Le Comte, declared to an emigrant of my acquaintance before I was arrested, that she had missed nine.

Q. Who is that emigrant? - He is a priest. Nevertheless, the wife of Le Comte told the justice that she suspected me to be the person that took the three guineas, because, I had remained alone in the parlour, she declared that the drawer was not locked, but did not say that there is a door comes into the parlour which I informed myself of, that door goes into an alley going into a street; on this suspicion the justice of peace caused me to be imprisoned and caused the money to be returned that had been taken from me, and now, my lord and gentlemen, I will inform your lordship and jury from whence I got this money; it is necessary and proper for you to know that I have been treated very unworthily; Mr. Channelly, an emgrant, who raises a body of emigrants in the British pay, he is colonel of that body of troops; I not having the means of subsisting, not being able to partake of the bouney of government, not being of the age of fifty years; I engaged in Mr. Channelly's corps, and he gave me three guineas, and the guinea and half found in my pocket was a part of it; Mr. Maleet, an emigrant from France, deputy of the French slates general in the year 1789, had addressed me to him; the justice of peace sent to Mr. Maluet and he declared in writing that he knew me, from having been captain of dragoons in France, and an aid-de-camp during the serge of Lyons, and if it was possible to find three guineas on me it must come that was; that writing ought to be before the eyes of your lordship and you gentlemen, and Mr. Channelly also, will if needful, declare, that on the 1st of December, last past, that is to say two days before I was imprisoned, he gave me three guineas as a bounty, as being engaged to him. I now intend, my lord and gentleman of the jury, to establish my justification. First, when I came into the parlour there was a maid servant in the room, she quitted the room immediately; it is untrue that I remained alone in the parlour, the daughter of Le Comte, eight years of age remained with me during the time that the wife of Le Comte quitted the room for a moment. Secondly, my lord and gentlemen, could I guess that there was in the drawer which I knew nothing of and which did not lock money, that is not probable, and the justice of peace himself was surprized that fourteen guineas and a bank note of ten pounds. should not be under lock and key. I hurdly, if it had been proverty that had prompted me to rob, instead of three guineas, I would have equally taken the whole, the fourteen guineas and the bank note of ten pounds, and I could equally with the same facility have carried away two gold watches also, that were hanging in the room, belonging to Le Comte. Fourthly, If I had robbed the prosecutor I should not have returned the next day, that is not probable, besides there is a door in the parlour which belongs to that room which leads to an alley, and from thence to the street; is it not possible that somebody might have come in into the parlour before me? and can this woman in conscence swear that no person came in before me.

My lord and gentlemen, a stranger as I am in this country an unhappy emigrant, I have not the faculty or means of getting a counsel, I do not speak the English language, be pleased to hear this my petition or memorial with your usual justice; I defended the cause of my king at Lyons, I have a thousand times escaped death in many battles, am I to fall here under the worst of calumny, an unhappy Frenchman, an unhappy father; am I reserved never to see my wife and children? now my lord, I persuade myself when I think I have for judges the wisest of men, who will weigh in your justice the justice of my cause, you will confound my enemies, and in rendering me my honour you will render me my life.

Court to Le Comte. Was there any woman in the house before yourself at the time that you suspected him taking the money - Nobody but myself, my child came in just as he was going out.

Q.Did any woman come in with the child? - No, she came in by herself just about two minutes before the man went out.

Q.Was the drawer shut or open? - Shut.

Q. Was it locked? - It was not locked, I had just taken it out, and alarmed at losing the money and shut it, but did not lock it.

Jury. Is there a passage door leading to an alley? - No, no passage, but what goes into the yard; passage and alley is the same word in French.

Q. Is there any access to that parlour but through the street door? - No other.

Q. You cannot come out of that parlour and go up stairs? - Yes, you can, but there is a door that shuts in the parlour that prevents it.

Q. Have you lodgers? - Yes.

Court. Have your lodgers any business in the parlour? - They have no business whatever; I never permit them to come into my parlour.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

103. THOMAS CONNOWAY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 23d of December , five hundred and seventy-six yards of lace, value 3l. 8s. two hundred and eighty yards of cotton fringe, value 9l. 12s. four hundred and twenty yards of cotton lace, value 15l. 10s. the goods of James Deykins, the elder .

JAMES DEYKINS , junior, sworn.

On Tuesday the 23d of December, the cart was sent out between two and three o'clock, and about five o'clock I heard of the loss.


I am carman to Mr. Deykins; I was sent out with some parcels in the cart; Jenkins is my fellow servant; I went to deliver a parcel on Fish-street-hill , and I left the cart in the care of Jenkins; I might be away about ten minutes, or not so much. When I came back to the cart I see a man discoursing with Jenkins, not this prisoner, and this prisoner at the bar was on the shafts of the cart, with a parcel in his arms taking it from the cart, upon which I runs and seizes hold of him, shoved the parcel from him on to the copse, and pulled him off from the copse of the cart; he had it completely in his arms off from the copse of the cart. He did not get away from me, but it was some time before I could get him secured to take him to the watch-house.

Q. What did you do with the parcel? - I took the parcel where it was directed to go into Wapping; I was afraid to go back with the parcel; I left it there all night and went for it the next morning.

Q. Now I would ask you whether it was the same parcel you received the next morning? Did you put your mark on it that night? - No.

Q. Did you observe the directions sufficient to know it again? - Yes.

Q. Who did you deliver it to the next morning? - I delivered it to the hands of my master's son.

Q. Who has had it ever since? - I delivered it to Mr. Deykins, junior.

Q.Perhaps you see that parcel before the magistrate? - Yes.

Q. Should you know it again? - Yes.

Q. Who brings it here? - I received it of my master this morning, Mr. Deykins, junior. This is the parcel, it was cut open at the Mansion House.


Q. Did you attend the cart? - Yes.

Q. Tell me whether in Gracechurch-street you saw the prisoner? - Yes, I see him stand on the shafts of the cart.

Q. Did you see any thing in his hands while he was there? - No, I see nothing but the parcel.

Q. How was the parcel? - It laid on the copse of the cart.

Q. Did you see it in his hands? - Yes, I see him raise it from the copse of the cart in his arms.

Q. Was any body talking to you at the time? - Yes, a man came up and asked me the way to Thames street, and I told him it was two or three turnings below.

JOHN DEYKINS , junior, sworn.

My father is a carrier .

Q. Look at the parcel in the indictment, there is a quantity of lace, did you see them packed up? - They were packed at Manchester; they were never opened till opened before the Lord Mayor.

Q. Are the contents properly charged in this indictment? - Yes.

Prisoner. I was coming along Fish-street hill, and a man hit me on the side of the head and said I was taking the things out of the cart.

GUILTY . (Aged 20.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

104. JOHN DORAN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 3d of January , a silk handkerchief value 2d. a stuff bed curtain, value 6d. a pound weight of beef, value 6d. and a red herring, value 1d. the goods of Esther Anneley .


Q. Are you a house keeper? - No, I am a lodger.

Q. Where did you lose this property from? - From the dresser of the Angel in Fleet-market ; I went in there to pay a few halfpence to a woman that keeps the market, that I owed her.

Q.What business do you follow? - I am in no business.

Q. What day was it? - Saturday was a week, the 3d of this month, about a quarter past eleven at night.

Q. Where had you been? - I came from Lincoln's-inn-fields, I was at work at a gentleman's house there.

Q. What did you carry into this public house with you? - A curtain, a pound of beef steaks, and a red herring, they were in a handkerchief.

Q. How did you lose it? - It was taken off the dresser by somebody, but I don't know who.

Q. In the kitchen of the public house? - In the kitchen.

Q. Did you ever see it after it was missing? - Yes, I see it in about ten minutes.

Q. In whose hands did you see it? - I see it in the hands of Mrs. Hoddy that keeps the Angel.

Q. Did you see the prisoner there at all? - No, I did not, I see him at the watch-house about a quarter of an hour after to the best of my knowledge.


I am a glazier; I was going by the end of Fleet-market, at the bottom of Holborn-hill, soon after eleven o'clock, and I heard the cry of stop thief, and I saw the prisoner running with a silk handkerchief tied up in a bundle, I followed him, I took him by the collar.

Q. Did you lose sight of him? - Never, he threw the bundle down, I took him hold by the collar with one hand, andpicked up the bundle with the other, and the landlady of the public house came up, I am positive that is the man.

Q. What did you do with the bundle? - A woman took it from my hand.

Q. What is the landlady's name? - Hoddy.

Q. Who is Samuel Atkins ? - He is the watchman that took hold of him at the same time I had him.


Q. Was you present when the last witness took the prisoner? - In the space of a few minutes. When I came up Mr. Payne had got hold of him, and I received the charge and took him to the watch-house. The bundle was delivered to me in the street, and I took it to the watch-house.

Q. Who had it at the watch house? - The constable of the night, Thomas Vaughan .


I am the constable of the night; I know no more than a bundle being brought down to the watch-house by the watchman. It remained in the custody of the watchman from that time till now.

Atkins. I have got the bundle, I received it back from the constable of the night.

Q. Have you kept it ever since? - I have. (Produced.)


Q. Are you the mistress of the public house? - Yes.

Q.Do you know the prosecutrix, Esther Anneley? - I know nothing of her.

Q. Was she at your house? - Yes, on Saturday night.

Q. Did you see the prisoner take the bundle? - Yes, I see him go out with it, he came out of the kitchen with it, and went out of the door.

Q. Did you give any alarm about it? - Yes, I did, I cried stop thief.

Q. Did you see him taken? - No, I did not, because he was a good bit before me; I took the bundle myself, I don't know who I got it of, and I gave it to a gentleman, and the gentleman gave it to the watchman, and he took it to the watch-house.

Q. Are you sure it is the same bundle that was in the prisoner's hands? - Yes.

Q. To Anneley. Is that your silk handkerchief? - Yes.

Q. Look at the curtain, see whether it is your curtain; is that stuff damask? - I call it harateen.

Q. Do you know any difference between stuff damask and harateen? - I don't know any difference.

Prisoner. As I was coming up on Saturday night in Fleet-market, I heard the alarm of stop thief! and the gentleman stopped me, and said, I was the thief, and when he stopped me they took me to the watch house, and soon after I was in the watch-house, the brought this bundle, and the gentleman said he lost a bundle of his own at the Bird Cage, at Wood-street, and he said he did not care what he did with me, out of revenge for his own bundle he lost; he said then he could not swear to the bundle, and now he has sworn to the bundle.

Court to Paine. Is that the bundle you picked up? - Yes.

GUILTY . (Aged 28.)

Publickly whipped .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

105. MICHAEL PARKER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 29th of December , eighteen dressed leather skins, called basils, value 1l. the goods of Pillet Kirkham .


I am a leather seller , I live in Bishopsgate-street . On the 29th of December, I lost eighteen black basils; they are sheep skins tanned in bark, and then blacked afterwards.

Q. When had you seen them last before? - About ten minutes before I lost them, they laid on the counter; I had not finished taking stock, I had been taking stock three or four days before, and had not finished; I was reading in the back part of my counting house, at the back part of my shop, I heard somebody, I did not know at the time but it might be somebody in the shop; I went afterwards and I saw a lad in the shop, with a man having hold of him, with a bundle of leather under his arm.

Q. Who was that lad? - The lad at the bar; the man asked me if I had given this lad these skins? I told him no, I had not, they were my property.

Q. This was said in the boy's presence? - It was. The man said he saw two of them go into the shop.

Q. You secured your effects? - Yes, I did, they are here.


On the 29th of December, Saturday evening, I was going down Bishopsgate-street I heard this lad and another along with him, swearing very much, and it took my attention very much, I turned round to hear what they were saying, I thought they were going to break the watchmaker's window, next door to Kirkham's, instead of that they turned and went into Mr. Kirkham's shop.

Q. You see them go in? - Yes, he and another; he went in, and the other held the door open while this lad went in; there was a bundle of loose skins all lay on the counter, and he took them up, as much as he could in his arms; as soon as he came out I took him up in my arms immediately, and carried him into the shop, Mr. Kirkham came forward, he had said the gentleman of the shop had ordered him to carry it somewhere.

Q. You acquainted Mr. Kirkham with all you had seen? - Yes.

Q. To Prosecutor. Produce the skins? Are these the skins that were taken from the boy? - Yes, they are, I believe, I have not looked at them since; they are here, I examined them before the constable took them into his possession; they have my shop mark on them.

Q. And these are the goods that were taken from the boy? - They are.

Q. Where is the constable? - He is out at the door, his name is Bailey.

- BAILEY sworn.

Q. Are these the goods that were put into your possession by Mr. Kirkham? - Yes.

Q. You delivered them into the court? - Yes.

Q. You kept them in the same condition as when delivered to you? - Yes.

Q. They have been in your custody ever since? - Yes.


On Monday the 29th of December, about ten minutes past seven in the evening I was going down Bishopsgate-street, just by the Marine Society, and I saw the witness, Hembury, catch hold of the prisoner, within about a couple of yards of Mr. Kirkham's shop, with the skins under his arm, eighteen skins; I immediately catched hold of him too, and I with the witness, Hembury asked him where he was going with them? he said he was sent out, or sent for them, I am not sure which; I with the witness, Hembury, took the lad into the shop, and Mr. Kirkham came from a back room, from his counting house, and we asked him if he knew any thing about them? he said they were his property, but he had not sent the boy out with them; I kept the skins till the constable came, and then I delivered them to the constable; after the lad was taken to the Compter, the skins were all marked by the witness who took the lad with me, and I kept possession of them till the constable came back from the Compter, where he had taken the lad.

GUILTY . (Aged 14.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

106. ABRAHAM EAMER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 19th of January , a quarter of pork, of the weight of nine pounds, value 4s. the goods of Benjamin Hack .


I live in Shoe-lane , I am a pork butcher by business. A few minutes after five o'clock, on Saturday, the 10th instant, before I came to my own door, I observed a man standing very near my window, the next instant I see the prisoner turn out of my shop with a leg and loin of pork, which we call a quarter of pork; I immediately seized him, and called for assistance; one Francis Goodman a servant to Mr. -, a coalmerchant was passing at the time, he was nearly with him as soon as me, and see him drop the property.

Q. Who was in your shop at the time? - I had nobody in the shop.

Q. You went into the shop and see nobody there? - Yes, my wife came into the shop when I went in, she had heard the the noise in the street; I said to Francis Goodman, pick up the pork, and he put it into my tray, which I had in returning home from delivering the goods; at this time Francis Goodman let go the prisoner, and he gave me several violent blows to rescue himself, my face was swelled all the evening, and then I called for further assistance, and Mr. Gordon attended, the next door neighbour to me, and we brought him into our shop.

Prisoner. I was coming along Shoe-lane between five and six o'clock, past that gentleman's shop, and he came and seized me by the collar, three doors below his shop, immediately I asked him what he wanted with me? he said I had stole a quarter of pork out of his shop; and the pork was ten yards from me, and more than that, he told the coalmerchant's servant to say that he see me drop the pork.

Q. To Prosecutor. Did you see him with the pork? - I seized him with the pork under his coat, and he dropped it.


Q. Was you present? - Yes.

Q. Did you see the prisoner? - Yes.

Q. Did you see him come out of the shop? - No.

Q. Did you see him in the street? - Yes, when I took hold of him he dropped the pork along side of him.

Q. Did he tell you how he came by it? - No.

Jury. Did you see him drop it? - Yes.

Prisoner. I have got no witness, I did not know of my trial coming on so soon.

Q. What trade are you? - A stay maker by trade.

GUILTY (Aged 19.)

Judgment respited.

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

107. JACOB ISAACS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 8th of January , a velveteen boy's coat, value 3s. a pair of velveteen breeches, value 2s. the goods of Benjamin Myers .


I am a taylor by trade.

Q. Did you lose any effects on the 8th of January last? - Yes, I lost a velveteen coat without sleeves, and a pair of velveteen breeches; it was a boy's coat.

Q. When had you seen them last before you missed them? - Not above five minutes before, they were laid on the table in the one pair of stairs room.

Q. How came you to lose them? - I went to call my wife away from her father and mother.

Q. You went out of your house? - Yes, I did; when I came back with my wife I told her to go into a shop and buy a pennyworth it sprats, within the mean time she was picking the sprats, I went up stairs and lighted my candle, and found my things were gone; I had suspicion of the prisoner at the bar, he had been up in my apartment several times; he helped me to move from the one place to another about four or five days before.

Q. So that he knew your house and knew your effects? - Yes.

Prisoner. Ask him if he did not say if he had the things back again he would not hurt me.

Prosecutor. I did promise him if so he he would give me the things back again, because they were not my things, but things that I had to do for other people, and I was so terrified that I hardly knew what I was about.


I was standing at my own door about nine o'clock, as near as I can guess, and the prisoner brought the things to me at the door; I keep a chandler's shop in Wentworth-street, Spitalfields.

Q. Near to Myers's? - I don't know where Mr. Myers lives.

Myers. I live at Cook's-buildings, Stoney-lane, near Gravel-lane .

Q.What time of day was it you last see your goods? - About half after eight at night.

Q. To Smith What passed between you and the prisoner? - He gave me the things into my arms; I am sure of the person; he desired me to take them in doors and he would take them away in the morning.

Q. To take what i ey were rolled up in a pa pened them.

Q.Was you with him before? - I had tore by using my shop. I don't know what he is.

Q.What did you do? - I took them in doors.

Q.What became of them? - The constable, Mr. Wither, and Mr. Myers fetched them away the next day.


I had the prisoner before the Lord Mayor, and he told where the things were.

Q. You first of all apprehended him? - No, two watchmen apprehended him.

Q. Where did you first see the prisoner? - In the watch-house, on Thursday the 8th, between ten and eleven o'clock. I asked him where the man's things were? he told me they were in a house in Petticoat-lane; and I asked him whereabouts, that I might go and fetch them? and he said he did not know the house. The next day when he was before the Lord Mayor he confessed where they were, and I went to the chandler's shop in Wentworth-street, and fetched them away.

Q. Is that James Smith's shop? - Yes.

Q. Were they loose or in a bundle when you took them away? - They were in a bundle.

Q. Were they wrapped up in any thing? - No, loose as they are now in a bundle, these are them.

Q. To Smith. Are these the goods that were left with you? - Yes.

Q. You told me they were in a parcel? - No, rolled up, not tied.

Q. To Myers. Are those the goods that you lost? - Yes.

Q. Are you quite sure? - Yes, quite sure, I know them by my make and by my cut, and I had only made two button holes in the front of the coat; they are my goods indeed, the breeches were left without buttons to the knees and without strings.


I am a watchman belonging to Aldgate, I was crying the hour of ten, and I met this man, Myers, and his wife, and his father, and he said you must go along with me, says I, where? says he, I have been robbed; says I, you must go up to the constable of the night and let him know, that he may know where to find me; so after that my partner came down to me, he had an order to go and take the thief, and when we came into the room there were two in one bed, and the taylor laid in the other bed, and so we looked into the first bed where the two men lay, and he was not there, and we looked into the other bed and found him and we fetched him up to the watch-house.


Q. You are the other watchman I suppose. What do you know of the matter? - The man came up to my stand in Houndsditch, and said that his house had been broke open, and I went to the constable of the night and asked him whether I might go out of the city to take the thief? and he said, yes.

Q. And you went with the other watchman that took him? - Yes, and carried him to the compter.

Prisoner. I have nothing to say at all, the prosecutor settled so far with my father that he took half a guinea and made it up.

Q. What are you? how do you get your livelihood? - I am a hatter by trade, I should not have taken them things, only I had a poor sick father and mother at home and they were starving for want; my prosecutor knows my father.

Prosecutor. I know he has a sick father and mother, he is a hatter by trade, but I cannot tell whether he works at it.


Imprisoned one month in Newgate , and fined 1s .

Tried by the London Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

108. ANN SMITH was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 21st of December , a pint pewter pot, value 6d. the goods of William Hunter .

Mrs. HUNTER sworn.

Q. Are you the wife of the prosecutor? - I am.

Q. Does he keep a public house ? - He does, the White Horse, Cripplegate-buildings .

Q. Do you know any thing of your own knowledge of the prisoner taking a pewter pot? - Yes, she came and called for a pennyworth of beer.

Q. Did you know her before? - I did not; she called for the beer and went by the side where the pots stood, and she took this pint and put it into her pocket. I did not see her take it, but I see her pocket bulge out; I said, ma'am, you have got something you should not have, and I felt the outside of her pocket.

Q. Was she searched? - No, I took it from her pocket myself.

Q. Was there any other person present? - No, we sent for a constable to take her.


Q. What age are you? - Thirteen years and a half old.

Q. Do you know what will become of you if you take a false oath? - I think I shall be punished for it.

Q. In the next life? - Yes.

Q. Do you remember the prisoner at the bar being in Hunter's house? - Yes, I see Mrs. Hunter take the pint pot out of her pocket.

GUILTY . (Aged 44.)

Imprisoned six months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

109. MARY KELLY was indicted for that she, on the 27th of September , unlawfully did utter to Henry Turton , a false and counterfeit sixpence .

A second COUNT, for that she at the same time had about her another counterfeit sixpence, she knowing it to be counterfeit.

The case opened by Mr. Knapp.


I live at No. 83. Holborn-bridge , at Messrs. Strafford's and Smith's.

Q. Do you know the defendant? - Yes, she came to our house the 27th of December last, about eleven o'clock in the morning; I served the prisoner with a skein of silk, a pennyworth, she was very particular in having a very small skein, and would not give more than a penny for it, and she gave me a good deal of trouble in changing for her. She gave me a good shilling, I gave her a sixpence and five pennyworth of halfpence, and particularly noticed the sixpence when I gave it her to be a particular large one, larger then they usually are; she returned me a counterfeit bad sixpence and told me I gave her that, as soon as I had given her the good sixpence she asked me to change the silk for a smaller skein, I then turned my back on the prisoner to change the silk, and I could not find one smaller than a penny, she then gave me a bad sixpence, she said she did not think it was a good one; it was a very bad one.

Q.Are you sure that the sixpence she gave you, after you had given her one, was not the same that you had given her? - I am certain of it, or else I would not take an oath. I told her the sixpence was a bad one, it was not the one I had given her, she said it was the one, she had no other about her, I then askedher to open her hand, she seemed to have her hand shut.

Q. Did she open her hand? - She refused to open it. I asked her again, and she refused it; I told her if she did not open it I would, I then got over the counter and opened her hand, and I found the sixpence there that I had given her, and four other very bad sixpences with it, all brass.

Q. Had you returned the bad one she had given you? - No, I kept it in my hand.

Q. Then there were five bad sixpences in all? - Yes, five in all.

Q. If I understand you right you have kept that bad sixpence she uttered to you in your custody? - Yes, I have had it in my custody ever since, I have got it in my hand now.

Q. Are you sure that is the sixpence that she gave you in return? - Yes.

Q. Did you keep the others separate when you took the other four out of her hand? - I put the four together with the other, but I noticed it, and took the four from it, and gave them to the constable, and kept the one she uttered to me myself.

Q. Are you sure that the other that had been mixed with the four, was the same that she uttered to you? - Yes, I am sure.

Q.Now let us look at the good sixpence? - This is it, a very large one, if it had not been a very large one, I should not have known it perhaps.

Q. What else did you do? - Then I sent for a constable, Mr. Reeves, and he took her into custody, and took her to the compter.

Prisoner. The gentleman speaks very much out of the way, he gave me the sixpence I returned him.

Court to Turton. She still sticks on it that the sixpence she uttered to you was the sixpence she had of you, will you venture, cooly and deliberately, to swear to the circumstance that the sixpence she returned to you, was not the sixpence that you gave to her? - I will.


Q. You are a constable? - I was at this time. I was sent for by Mr. Strafford, the prisoner was in the shop when I came down, and this young man produced five sixpences in the whole, I desired him to pick out that sixpence that she uttered, which he did.

Q. What did you do with the other four? - He delivered them into my custody. I went to her lodgings afterwards.

Q. How did you know they were her lodgings? - The prisoner told me; I found there thirteen shillings and fourteen sixpences, all bad. They are in the state I found them in this bag.

Prisoner. My husband is at sea, and I took in a woman to lodge with me, and she gave me one sixpence to go and buy some butcher's meat, and the butcher objected to the sixpence; and I went to this shop and offered him a shilling, and he gave me the sixpence that I offered to change again; they searched my box and found nothing in my box; if I had known the money was in my place, I should not have sent the gentleman to my place.

Court to Reeves. Where did you find these at her lodgings? - In the cradle under the child.

A JURYMAN sworn.(The sixpence shewn him that the witness took out of her hand, amongst the four bad ones.)

Q. Is that good or bad? - It is a good sixpence. (Another shewn him. the one she offered to have changed) That appears to have some silver in it.

Q. Do you believe it to be a counterfeit? - I do. (Four others shewn him) They are all counterfeit.


Imprisoned one year in Newgate , and security for two years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

110. AUSTIN FLOWERS otherwise YOUNG , and JOHN FLOWERS were indicted for feloniously making an assault, on the King's highway, on William Cross , on the 17th of November , and feloniously taking from his person and against his will, a metal watch, value 2l. a gold watch chain, value 3l. a gold seal, value 1l. six guineas, and two shillings; the monies of the said William Cross .


Q. Did you lose any property on the 17th of November last? - Yes, about a quarter of a mile from Barnet ; I was in a carriage with Mrs. Cross, and she observed by the coachman driving so fast, that she thought there was somebody trying to get up behind.

Q.Had you hackney horses? - Yes. In consequence of what Mrs. Cross said I looked through the window behind, and I see the prisoners who are now at the bar, almost close to the carriage.

Q. About what time was this? - About twenty minutes past four o'clock.

Q. Were they on horse back or on foot? - On horseback.

Q.What was the colour of their horses? - I cannot positively say; I have some recollection of the colour of one being a bay or sorrel, but I cannot recollect the other. Very soon after, I heard somebody cry out, stop! very loud, two or three times; and the prisoner on the right hand, the one in the red collar, Austin, demanded my money; he was on the right side of the carriage; Mrs. Cross was very much alarmed at the fight of the pistol.

Q. Had he presented a pistol? - He presented a pistol; I requested him to take his pistol from the carriage, I had nothing worth contending for, and he should have it; he begged us not to be alarmed, he would do no injury, and he requested we would give our money; he conducted himself as civil, I suppose, as any man could do. Mrs. Cross had just given over her money, and she found a noise on her left hand, which alarmed her very much, and she put down the window, the man on the left hand ran his pistol into her neck, I gave my money, and the prisoner who last attacked us, insisted on our watches and diamond rings.

Q. Did he present a pistol also? - He presented a pistol also, which he did not take away for some time, though repeatedly d-mned and cursed by the other man for not doing it. I think I gave him eight or nine guineas, it was more than seven, but I am not certain whether it was eight or nine; the other man still persisted that the lady had a diamond ring and the man on the left hand, John Flowers , was not satisfied till Mrs. Cross took off her glove to shew that she had not a diamond ring; John Flowers was still unsatisfied till the other, Austin Flowers said to me, will you say on your honour, that you have none? I said, upon my honour she has none; he said, then I wish you a good or a pleasant evening, and hoped I might meet with no other company, and they went off.

Q.When did you again see your effects? - I see them yesterday for the first time, in Hatton-garden. (The watch produced by John Briggs.) I know the watch from several circumstances, a very few days before I was robbed I broke the enamel in winding it up.


Q. Who delivered that watch to you? - John Flowers, he offered to pledge it on Thursday the 20th of November, between seven and eight o'clock in the evening. I opened the watch and found it was advertised from Bow-street, as stolen; he said he believed the chain was gold, I then gave the aqua fortis and the Turkey stone to my young man to try it, during which time I went out to get assistance in taking of him; a few doors from my own house I met one of our patrols, I told him what I wanted, and in returning with him into the house, just at the door I met the two prisoners at the bar coming out. Austin Flowers, he stood in the passage during the time that John Flowers was in my house, but I had not seen him before; the instant they see us, John Flowers ran up St. John's-street, and Austin Flowers ran towards Smithfield, I desired the patrol to pursue John and I would endeavour to take the other; I ran after him till turning down towards Cow-lane, there he stopped quite out of breath, I laid hold of him and there was a coach on the stand and I brought him back, when I got home I found the other prisoner was in my shop in custody.

Q. You carried them both to the magistrate, I suppose? - Yes.

Mr. Knapp. What are you? - A pawnbroker, No. 92, St. John-street, West-Smithfield.

Q. You say you went out of your house, and left the two prisoners in the house? - I only saw one in the house.

Q.How long did you leave him in the house? - About two minutes.

Q. You found him there when you returned? - I found him coming from the house in the passage, coming out both of them together.

Q. To Cross. You have stated very fairly to the court, and it is natural to suppose you would, that this was on the 17th of November, about twenty minutes after four o'clock in the afternoon? - In stating it so precisely, I conjecture it so. It was between four and five, and rather nearer four than otherwise.

Q. Do you recollect what sort of a day it was? - It was a sharp frost, I rather think it was, but I am not certain.

Q. It was not much daylight? - It was so much daylight that I could have read in my carriage, because a very short time before I had a book in my hand.

Q. You say you was able to see the person through the glass behind the carriage, the glass you say was dim? - No, I did not, I said, it was high, I could not see the colour of the horses.

Q. First of all, if I understand you right, you observed the prisoners you say,(if they were the prisoners) from the back glass, the glass of the back part of your chaise; the glass is not very large? - It is a square glass and rather large, it is as much as eight inches square.

Q. By that means you was enabled first of all to discover the persons? - No, Mrs. Cross supposing somebody was getting up behind the carriage, I looked and see the two men distinctly behind the carriage, not thinking they were robbers at that time.

Q. You say the man on your side behaved very civil? - Uncommonly civil, I never was robbed before and so I cannot tell how others behave.

Q. But the other man was not so civil? - He was not, he swore to the other man for not taking the things.

Q. The man on the right hand, he said, all I want is your money, and I beg the lady will not be alarmed? - He did.

Q. You say you lost your watch? - Yes.

Q. You are sure that is your watch now produced? - I am.

Q. How long were the prisoners apprehended after you was robbed? - I see them only yesterday.

Q. How long were they taken into custody after the robbery was first committed? - I see them yesterday at the police office, Hatton-garden.

Q. They had been committed to Tothill-fields, and brought to Hatton-garden? - I don't know that. There were none in irons but these, and therefore I must mark them as the prisoners, I must say very fairly.

Q. And therefore they were pointed out? - No, not pointed.

Q.When you got to the office you recognized two men in irons? - Of whom I could have no doubt, if I was to see them among ten thousand.

Prisoner Austin. Were not your eyes bad then? - No, that has arisen since in consequence of an inflammation from the gout.

Q. Could you perfectly recollect, you say it was eight weeks since the robbery was committed? - The question is perfectly fair, and if I had the smallest doubt on my mind, I would not in this place, swear so positively; I am sorry I am obliged to do it.

Q. You say you was on your journey to Barnet, robbed at some little distance from that place. Now I ask you which side of the carriage you sat on? - On the left side. I recollect you perfectly at the turnpike; you remember looking into the carriage; you remember stopping some time to do it. I had a perfect recollection of your face before you stopped me, I had a perfect fight of it from the hind glass, I could not be mistaken afterwards; you was extremely civil, and if I had any doubt I would express it, but seeing you now and seeing you yesterday, I cannot do otherwise than say I am certain; I wish I was not obliged to say so.

Q. You have been repeatedly wrote to by the magistrate on this business? - And very unwillingly came up on this business.

Q. And returned for answer that you could not swear to the persons? - I think that when Mr. Bond wrote to me in Yorkshire, I was ill with an inflammation in my eyes; under this circumstance, Mrs. Cross wrote an answer, that coming up so far at the uncertainly of been able to swear to the persons, would be putting me to a great inconvenience at that time; I felt a repugnance at coming up, but that was from the uncertainly of figuring to myself the persons of the men that had robbed me, but seeing these men again I have no idea of doubt about it.

Court. Was there any such letter wrote by you? - I think I wrote one letter to excuse myself from coming up,

Mr. Knapp to Briggs. The prisoner Austin, wishes me to ask you whether before the justice you did not say, that John Flowers informed you that he had received the watch from a friend? - When I asked him whose watch it was? he said it was not his own, but he had brought it for a gentleman.

Q. Did he add any thing, did he say he had brought it from a gentleman for whom he had made a coat? - No, he did not.

Q. In short he disclaimed any property in it, he said it was not his? - He did.

Q. I believe you knew him very well? - I have known both of them for some years; one of them Austin Flowers, lived at our beadle's.

- JAMES sworn.

I am a patrol. On Thursday, the 20th of November, between seven andeight o'clock, I was walking on my duty as a patrol, I see a young lad coming out of a butcher's shop, which is Mr. Spencers, and I heard him utter the word here is one of them; that gave me reason to suppose that there was something amiss, that he was in persuit of one of the patrols, I happened to be there; I turned myself round and see Mr. Briggs speaking to Mr. Spencer; I asked what was the matter? Mr. Briggs he said, there was a person that he wanted immediately to be taken to prison, he told me that he was in the box, a place which I did not know what it meant at that time, at last the boy told me I will come and shew you; the boy shewed me; this place is in the passage, the passage leads to it.

Q. Did you go with Mr. Briggs? - I went on and the butcher's boy shewed me, said there, it is there; I just stopped and I saw the two prisoners there present coming out of the door; Mr. John Flowers who is there prisoner, he was obliged to squeeze himself to come by me; at that instant of time I did not know they were the party that I was to apprehend, and by that they got by me, there was an immediate cry, there they go; Mr. Briggs called out that to the best of my knowledge; accordingly I see John Flowers run up St. John's street, I followed him, I called out stop thief, accordingly he was stopped by one Samuel Taylor , a porter that belongs to Mr. Dean, a cheesemonger in St. John's-street; I was near at hand but he stopped him for me; then I collared him and brought him back to Mr. Briggs's shop; in a few minutes afterwards I see Austin Fowers brought in there likewise.

Q. Who brought him in? - I cannot tell you who brought him, and therefore I did not observe that; then there was the coach ordered and they were both charged, and we took them to the magistrate's.


Q. What do you know with respect to the two prisoners at the bar? - I took one, John Flowers , the thin one, I took him up in St. John's-street, Thursday, November 20th.

Q. Was he running, walling or how? - He was running very hard; when I took him the patrol came up.

Q. What is his name? - I don't know, James is one name, I don't know the other.

Q. And you delivered him to him? - Yes.

Q. Any thing else? - I see him drop a watch, I picked it up and carried it to Mr. Briggs.

Mr. Knapp. You never knew him before? - No.

Q. He was running from you, was not he? - No, it was directly as I came out of my master's door I catched him in my arms.

Q. Did you ever hear there was eighty pounds reward? - No, never.

Q. Never heard of it before this? - No, never.

- EWER sworn.

I am an officer of the police, Hatton-garden; the prisoners were brought to our office to be examined; I asked the patrol that brought them if he had searched them? I searched the prisoner and I found the key of a screw barrelled pistol, and this pistol ball on the prisoner Austin.


Q. What age are you? - Fifteen.

Q.You know what you are doing when you are taking an oath? - Yes.

Q. Do you know what will happen to you if you say that that is untrue having taken an oath? - Yes.

Q. What will befall you do you think? do you know it will be worse with you hereafter, bad indeed if you don't speak the truth on your oath? - Yes.

Q.Now tell us what you know of this matter? - I saw John Flowers bring the watch into our house, on Thursday, the 20th of November, he asked two guineas for the watch.

Q.Did he speak to you or in your presence? - In my presence.

Q. You heard him? - Yes. He said it was a gold chain, I tried the chain and it was good gold; in the mean while I was trying the chain my master went to get assistance; in the mean while he was gone, Flowers asked me where he was? I told him I believed he was at the door.

Q. What did he do on that? - He then took away the watch off the counter and went out; it was laying on the counter, I saw no more of him till he was brought in by the patrols; while they were both standing in the shop a woman told me they were emptying their pockets; I immediately went round the counter, and I found this pair of spurs in a paper.

Q. Did you see them come out of the pockets of these people? - No, I did not see them; a short time afterwards there were three shot found just on the same spot.

Q.But you did not see them come out of their pockets? - No.

Prisoner Austin. The evening on which my brother went to Mr. Briggs with the property in question, I met with my brother, he asked me to go home to sup with him, which I did not refuse to do; he told me he wanted to call at Mr. Briggs, the pawnbroker's, he had something to pledge; he then went into Mr. Briggs and I waited at the door, I stopped there some little time when I see a patrol come up with a hanger drawn, I thought there might be something going on that might hurt my brother, I ran away and Mr. Briggs followed me till I came to the pens in Smithfield; I turned about then and asked Mr. Briggs what he wanted? he told me he wanted me to go back with him; I turned round on him and went back, had I wished to have done it I could have made my escape from Mr. Briggs I make no doubt; I went into the shop and he told me that my brother had brought a watch to pledge that was not his own; my brother said it was not his own property but the property of a friend; he had for some time been acquainted with Mr. Briggs, if this watch had been improperly got he would not have taken it to Mr. Briggs. With respect to myself, I am totally ignorant of the watch, neither for some time prior had I seen my brother; had I the idea of this watch being improperly got I would not have waited so near the pawnbroker's.

Prisoner John. On the evening I took the watch to the pawnbroker's, I took it of a person who had ordered a coat of me; I measured him at the George, in Aldermanbury, on the 13th of November, a person who called himself a Mr. Smith, who had used that house for some time; I was to make him a coat and waistcoat, he told me when I brought it he would pay me, I made it and took it to him, the value was 3l. 10s. he said he had not got money to pay me then; he said if I would leave the clothes he would pay me the next day, which I refused to do, not knowing him; I asked him that if the landlord would be bound for the coat I would leave it, and he offered me this watch till the next day, Itold him I would take it to a friend of mine and know the value of the watch; he told me it was a gold chain and seal, which I told him I did not believe it was, and as such I took it to Mr. Briggs; if I had known this watch was stole I would not have took it to Mr. Briggs, were I must be known.

The prisoner colled Joseph Steadman, with whom he had lodged in Albermarle-street six months, and Thomas Knight , who lived with Mr. Cook, a coach-maker, in St. John's-street, who had known him sixteen or seventeen years, who gave him a good character, and also William Tylor, of the City-road, who said he knew nothing of him contrary to honesty, but begged to be excused answering when asked if he believed him to be an honest man.

Austin Flowers, GUILTY . Death .(Aged 24.)

John Flowers, GUILTY . Death .(Aged 28.)

Recommended to mercy by the prosecutor.

Austin Flowers. With respect to my brother, I beg you will recommend him to mercy, as to myself I have no objection to suffer.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

111. ARCHIBALD GRIERSON was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of Richard Burton , about the hour of six in the night, of the 15th of January , with intent to steal his goods .


I live in the liberties of the rolls ; I am a stationer .

Q. Was you at home when the house was broke open? - Yes, I know nothing of the matter, there are some gentlemen here that saw the transaction.


Q. Was you in Burton's house? - No, I was not; about six in the evening I was in Rolls-buildings, I was coming out of my father's house, which is nearly opposite.

Q. What did you observe? - I observed two men outside of the rails, and the window open of Mr. Burton's house, the prisoner at the bar was in the parlour; on which I went over the way, and as soon as I went over, one of them went off; the other stopped outside of the rails; I asked them what business they had to do there? on which the prisoner at the bar came to the window, and shewed himself to me; on which I asked the prisoner who he was? he said he belonged to the house, and if I did not get out of the way, he would jump over me; on that he came up, and said, now you see who I am, I belong to the house; I told him it was very well if he did belong to the house, but I insisted on his going into the house; on which he went up to the other man, and drew a stick from the other man, which he had under his coat, and aimed a blow at me with the stick; on which I got into the middle of the road, and evaded the blow, and called out, stop thief! and he ran off, and I pursued him into White's-alley; he was out of my sight at the corner, but I see him again before he got to the corner.

Q. Did you see him running? - Yes.

Q. Was he taken? - Yes, he was taken in a minute after he ran off, within a hundred yards from the place.

Q. Was he taken while he was running? - Yes, he was stopped.

Q. Are you sure that is the man? - Yes, very sure, he poked his face almost up to mine when he jumped out of the window.

Q. What time of night was this? - About six o'clock last night.

Q. There were no remains of day light? - No, I don't think there was, it was near night.


Q. Did you stop the prisoner at the hue and cry? - Yes.

Q. Was he running? - Yes.

Q. What account did he give of himself? - The moment he was stopped, he asked me what I had to do with him? I told him that there was a cry of stop thief, and I suspected him to be the person; immediately this person came up to me and secured him.

Q. Had you seen that parlour window for any time before this? - No.

Q. You don't know of its being shut? - The servant says it was shut.


Q. You are servant to the prosecutor? - Yes.

Q. Do you remember the night the prisoner was taken up? - I do.

Q. Was you in the parlour? - I was not.

Q. When did you see the window before this? - At five o'clock I carried up my master's candles, and I saw the window safe then.

Q. What does your family consist of? - My master and two ladies.

Q. Were they in the house between five and six o'clock? - No, they were not then in the house; there was only my master and me, except those belonging to the lady that keeps the house.

Q.Then your master is only a lodger? - No.

Q. Who was there besides in the house? - There was only another servant girl she cannot speak any thing about it, I am sure of that, because she was not in the kitchen with me, therefore I am sure she was up stairs.

Court. She ought to have been brought.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

112. THOMAS SPACHES was indicted for feloniously and burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of Bagio Amelia , about the hour of three in the night, of the 13th of January , and burglariously stealing therein, a pair of cloth trowsers, value 3s. a woollen cap, value 6d. five linen shirts, value 1l. three check linen shirts, value 12s. two pair of linen drawers, value 4s. two pair of worsted stockings, value 3s. a cotton handkerchief, value 2s. two cloth jackets, value 2s. a calimanco petticoat, value 5s. and a hat, value 6d. the goods of Manuelli Chavaree ; and three linen shirts, value 12s. two check linen shirts, value 5s. a pair of velvet breeches, value 3s. a pair of worsted stockings, value 1s. a cloth jacket, value 3s. and a hat, value 1s. the goods of of Bartolemi Fernandez ; three linen table cloths, value 5s. and a cloth great coat, value 6s. the goods of Bagio Amelia .


I am the wife of Bagio Amelia; I came from Minorca.

Q. Where do you live? - Old Gravel-lane, No. 85 .

Q. Did you lose any effects on the 13th of January? - I lost three table cloths, and a great coat of my husband's.

Q. What house was it? - My own.

Q. What time did it happen? - I was In bed on Tuesday night, and shut all the doors at twelve o'clock, me and my husband; I shut the street door, and the yard door, and the kitchen window I bolted at the top and bottom, and the street door I double locked.

Q. How did you fasten the yard door? - With the bolts at the top and bottom, and the hatch.

Q. How did you fasten the kitchen window? - That was bolted at the top and bottom, and the bar across. I was the last person up in the evening, and in the morning the yard was open. My husband was the first person, and the maid, that got up in the morning.

Q. What business does your husband or you carry on? - I keep a lodging house .


Q. What time did you get up in the morning? - Six o'clock.

Q. Did you perceive any thing particular in your house? - I found the yard door open and the kitchen window open, the yard door was quite open, and the hatch was broke open, and the thing that catches the hatch was broke too, the bolt at top and bottom was not broke, only the hatch.

Q. Was the wood broke? - No; but the lock was broke, the latch that catches the door.

Q. With respect to the kitchen, how was that? - The kitchen window was not broke, because the prisoner opened the kitchen window the same manner I could do it myself, because when he got in he went down stairs.

Q. What time did you get up in the morning? - At six o'clock.

Q. Was it quite dark at that hour? - Yes, it was quite dark at that hour; I went down with a candle in my hand.

Q. To Antoinette Amelia . Tell us what you know further respecting the loss of these goods? - I found two chests broke open down in the kitchen.

Q. When had you last seen what were the contents of those chests? - The contents belonged to two failors, lodgers of mine at my house.

Q. Do you know what was in them? - No, I don't know; but the clothes I know, because I see the men wear the clothes in the house.

Q. Did you lose any thing of your own property, I lost three table cloths, and a great coat of my husband's.

Q. Are they here? - No, nothing here but the property belonging to the sailors, which the black had got on him.


Q. Where do you lodge? - In the last witness's house.

Q. Where was the chest? - In that house, in the kitchen.

Q. What was in the chest that was lost? - Six shirts, and a pair of breeches, and a striped jacket, and a pair of stockings.

Q. Which are the goods that are found? - He took them off the prisoner.

JOSEPH HAYNES sworn.(Produces the goods.)

Q. Where did you get these goods that you produce? - From that man's backside.

Q. You need not be so correct as that. Do you mean that you got them from his person? - Yes.

Q. What besides? - This cap from his head, these two shirts from under the bed where he laid; this handkerchief from his hand that was bloody.

Q. When had you them from him? - Last Wednesday night, about seven o'clock.


Q. Look at this property, and see what is your's? - A pair of cloth trowsers and a cap.

Fernandez. These two shirts and handkerchief are mine.

Q. When did you see them before they were taken? - About three days before.

Q. To Chavaree. Where were these effects left that you lost? - Down in the kitchen, in a chest, and the chest locked.

Q.When did you see them there last before you missed them? - I saw them about three or four days before.

Q. Who had the key of your chest? - I had the key in my pocket on board the ship.

Q. To Antoinette Amelia. Tell us how you connect this with the prisoner at the bar? - The prisoner at the bar was a lodger of mine before, he does not lodge with me not now, he was not a lodger when he robbed the house.

Q. How long before had he left you? - I believe about a week before.

Q. What makes you judge it was he that robbed your house? - When he robbed the house he left a pair of breeches of his own in the house.

Q. Are they brought here? - They are not fit to be seen because he has done his business in them.

Q. What steps did you take when the house was robbed? - I thought he was the person by the breeches that were left behind, and I employed two officers to go and catch him, and they catched him in a public house asleep.

Q.When did you see the goods again? - I see the goods on the prisoner's back when the officers brought him before the justice.


Q. By whom was you applied to, to apprehend this man? - By this lady and this man.

Q. Where did you apprehend him? - I went up into Blue coat fields to a house in the parish of St. George's, by the information of that good man there that had his thumb partly bit off, and we see him there, and took him into possession, and brought him down to the office, but first before we went to the office we went up stairs to his lodgings, where he ran from, and took the prisoner at the bar with me, and found these shirts in the room.

Q. You went to the house and found the prisoner at the door? - Yes.

Q. You and the prisoner and all went up stairs - Yes.

Q. Were they check shirts? - Yes, in the Spanish way; he went and sat down on the bed and I took this cap off his head. I took the breeches off his person at the office.

Prisoner. What made I do it, was because to-morrow it will be a week since they stripped me and turned me out of doors.


I was the man that found where he was, when I went up stairs, I found him rolled up in a blanket, and I took the blanket off his head to see whether it was him, and I found it was him, and he got up and knocked me down and bit the top of my thumb off, and I was obliged to go and get assistance.

Prisoner. That man catched hold of me by my throat as I lay asleep. The door I did not break, it was on a latch, and they robbed me of clothes that I gave them five pounds for.

GUILTY . Death . (Aged 50.)

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.