Old Bailey Proceedings Online (www.oldbaileyonline.org, version 6.0, 17 April 2014), June 1793 (17930626).

Old Bailey Proceedings, 26th June 1793.

THE WHOLE PROCEEDINGS ON THE KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON; AND ALSO The Gaol Delivery for the County of Middlesex; HELD AT JUSTICE HALL in the OLD BAILEY, On Wednesday the 26th of June, 1793, and the following Days;

Being the SIXTH SESSION in the Mayoralty of The Right Hon. Sir JAMES SANDERSON , Knt. LORD MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LONDON.

TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND BY MANOAH SIBLY, PROFESSOR OF SHORT-HAND, No. 35, Goswell-street, And Published by Authority.



Printed and published by HENRY FENWICK , No. 63, Snow Hill.



KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON, &c.

BEFORE the Right Honourable SIR JAMES SANDERSON , Knt. LORD MAYOR of the City of LONDON: The Right Honourable SIR ARCHIBALD MACDONALD , Lord Chief Baron of His Majesty's Court of Exchequer: SIR FRANCIS BULLER , one of the Justices of His Majesty's Court of King's Bench: SIR JOHN WILSON , one of the Justices of His Majesty's Court of Common Pleas: SIR JOHN WILLIAM ROSE , Serjeant at Law of the said City: JOHN SILVESTER , Esq. Common Serjeant at Law of the said City; and others, His Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer of the CITY of LONDON, and Justices of Gaol Delivery of NEWGATE, holden for the said City and County of MIDDLESEX.

London Jury.

Thomas Wilkie

William Overton

William Lane

John Todd

Robert Morris

Richard Asty

John Body

William Laforest

Richard Church

Patrick Wood

Davis Voss

Jacob Cope

First Middlesex Jury.

Richard Collyer

William Evans

Thomas Gibbs

Michael Taylor

Joseph Weedon

James Thurley

John Golesworth

John Pratt

William Baker

Edward Harris

John Wells

Richard Ward

Second Middlesex Jury.

James Penrukers

James Peae

Peter Lyon

John Richards

George Burroughs

Charles Parnell

Edward Door

Samuel Locke

Alexander Smith

William Lawrence

Joseph Alleott

Joseph Kendrick .

495. ANN PARKINSON was indicted for making an assault, on the King's highway on John Winbush , on the 7th of June , putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person, and against his will, a steel watch chain, value 1 s. 6 d. a linen handkerchief, value 6 d one guinea and a half in gold, and six shillings and six-pence in silver ; the goods and monies of the said John Winbush .


I am a journeyman carpenter . I was robbed between twelve and one o'clock on Friday night or Saturday morning, the 7th of June; I am a married man; I was in a lane called Ivory-lane in the Strand ; I cannot say any more about it, the witnesses know; I was very much in liquor; I lost a steel watch chain, a linen handkerchief, six shillings and sixpence, and half a guinea; I had not any apprehension how much money I had.

Q. When had you last been sober enough to have any recollection to know what you had about you? - About seven o'clock at night, I was very sober then; I was down in Westminster then, in Petty France, in a public house almost facing the Ship-yard, but what the sign was I don't know as I never was in it before; I was not at all sensible when the things were taken from me in the least, I know nothing of it.


I am a watchman in St. Martin's in the Fields; I cried the hour of one o'clock, and I came up Ivory-lane, I was going down the hour of half after one, and I was speaking to a brother watchman, and I heard a noise down Ivory-lane, I went down the lane, and I saw the prosecutor laying on his back, and this prisoner at the bar was across him, and taking his watch from him, she had taken the money from him, she seeing me flew up and made off to me, and I catched her in my arms, and some porters picked up the prosecutor and brought him up to me while I had got the prisoner in my arms, and the prosecutor said that that was the woman that robbed him; no, says she, it is the other girl that robbed him, and gave me the money; with that she put her hand into her pocket, and brought some silver out, and I took the silver out of her hand, and put my hand into her pocket and took the rest.

Jury. How much did you take out? - I took a guinea and a half, and some silver, and a steel chain.

Court. What did you take from her hand? - Six shillings and six-pence in silver, and a handkerchief out of her bosom. Then I took her to the watch-house.

Court. Is it a linen handkerchief?

Prosecutor. It is.

Herbert. I have kept the property from that time to this. (Produces the chain and handkerchief) the money I have forgot and left at home.

Court. Was this man very drunk? - Yes, he was so that he did not know what he was about at all.

Q. Was there any resistance between the girl and him? - Yes, there was great resistance for they took and tore him all down the face. The first thing that I saw was, that she was across him, and trying to get the watch from him.

Q. I want to know what they did to him before they took the watch from him? - They took and tore him all down the face, and made him bleed; I saw the prisoner strike him, when I was coming down he was on the ground, and when he was crying out this girl struck him about the face, and held his mouth, he struggled and put his hand as well as he could to his watch, when he found they were pulling his watch out.

Q. By what light did you see this? - By the light of the porters coming to market with their lanthorns.

Jury. What sort of a night was it? - It was rather lightish.

Court. Do you take on yourself to say by the light you had, that the prisoner was the woman that did all this? - Yes, I can swear to this.

Q. Was there any other woman with her? - There were two other women with her.

Court to Prosecutor. What sort of a chain was this you lost? - A steel chain belonging to a woman's watch, with a hook to it; I can swear to the chain and the handkerchief; I have another like it in my pocket, there is no letter or name on it I had the chain in my waistcoat pocket for to wear it bright, because it was got rusty; I have had it a great many years; there is no particular mark.

Prisoner. My lord about half after one o'clock this gentleman took me from one public house to another to drink with him; we drank five or six pints of cider, and three glasses of gin, and he left me this watch chain and his handkerchief; coming along this place he fell down; the porters were going to Covent-garden market, and the money sell out of his pocket, and I picked up the gold; he had not a farthingworth of silver about him; it was my own silver; I have no witness.

Jury to Herbert. Did you see her take the chain out of his pocket? - I saw it taken from his person.

Q. How far was you off when you saw this? - Not as far as I am from her now.

Q. I think you said that you saw blows that she struck? - I did.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

496. JOHN SMITH BURNEL was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 27th of March , two feather beds, value 4 l. four cotton window curtains, value 10 s. a pair of linen sheets, value 5 s. two linen pillow cases, value 3 s. two feather bolsters, value 4 s. two looking glasses in wooden frames, value 4 s. a mahogany table, value 6 s. two brass candlesticks, value 2 s. the goods of Thomas Neale , in a lodging room .

(The case was opened by Mr. Knapp.)


I am a cornchandler ; I live at No. 22, Little Poultney-street ; I know the prisoner at the bar, he came to my house on the 18th of Novmber to take a lodging, he said that he wanted a room for him and his wife, and he said he had a very good place in the salt office; I had two rooms to let on one floor; he said he would take both; they were 10 s. a week; he made the bargain with me; there were in the rooms two feather beds, two glasses, two bolsters, a pair of pillows, three blankets, four window curtains, a mahogany table, and a pair of brass candlesticks.

Q. How long did he live at this lodging of your's? - He was there about four months.

Q. Were all these things let to him with the lodgings? - Yes. He went into the country about the 25th or 26thof March 1793; I received a note from him on the 27th, it was sent by a porter, as soon as I received the note I had a suspicion that something was the matter, I immediately got a smith to get into the room, we got into the room and I found all these things at that time were missing; my wife was with me, and the porter that brought the note; I detained him; we had afterwards an information that he was lodging at No. 1, Plow court, Fetter lane; I went there and took four constables with me, and saw the prisoner there, it was between seven and eight o'clock in the morning; the woman that went as his wife was with him; the officers went into the room and said they had got a warrant; they immediately examined the desk and found duplicates that led to a great part of my property, and the key of my room; the prisoner was then taken into custody; I did not go to the pawnbroker's, my wife went, I saw some of the goods again in a few days, I saw them at home, they were the same goods as I had in the room, and were let to the prisoner; the constables brought them home, Baker and Slane.

Mr. Gardener. How many rooms were let to him, one or two? - Two rooms.

Q. How came you to say a room in your first examination? - He wanted only one room at first.

Q. On what day was this that you let him have possession of this room? - On the 22d of November; I let it him on the 19th.

Q. Did he ever deliver up any part of this property that was let to him? - Yes, he delivered a curtain and some trifles of one of the rooms to my wife, by that means I thought he was what he said, it was the curtains off one bed that he delivered up two or three days after he was in, and some few more articles; the rooms were both compleatly furnished.

Q. Did not he quit the apartment on the 25th of march? - He did on the 25th or 26th.

Mr. Gardiner to the Court. My lord, an objection arises here, it now turns out from the evidence of the prosecutor himself, that the prisoner quitted the apartments on the 25th or 26th of March, and in the indictment he has laid this theft to be committed on the 27th, therefore he has laid it to be committed after he left the apartments.

Court. The day is not at all material if it is laid before the indictment is found.

Mr. Gardiner to Prosecutor. Did the prisoner bring any goods in? - I never see any.


Q. Do you remember the prisoner coming to your house to lodge? - I do; I took and shewed him the apartment, I shewed him one room, he wished to have two, they were let to him, there were two compleat beds, white cotton window curtains, a pair of linen sheets, two linen pillow cases, two feather bolsters, two looking glasses, one in a gilt frame and the other in a mahogany frame, and a mahogany table, called a small dining table, a pair of brass metal candlesticks; these were all in the room at the time the prisoner took the lodgings; my husband was not within, he came by the name of John Smith .

Q. After he went into the country how soon did you hear of him again? - We never knew he went into the country till we received the note; this gave my husband a suspicion, and he went to Plow-court, Fetter-lane; I went to the pawnbroker's Mr. Berry's, with the duplicates, there I found the pillow biers, the sheets and three window curtains.

Q. Did you know them when you looked at them? - I did; the window curtains were what I let with the room when he came, the sheets I regularly change once a month, but they were my property.

Q. From whom did you get that duplicate which you carried to Berry's? - From the officer Slane.

Gardiner. Did not the prisoner deliver up the key to you? - No.

Q. Did he bring any furniture with him; - No, I never saw any thing but a small bundle, and his wife was coming out of the country as he told me.

Prisoner. Did not I find my own linen? - No.

- SLANE sworn.

I am the constable; I went with a warrant to Plow-court, Fetter-lane; I found there Smith Burnell , and a woman that appeared to be his wife; I examined the room, and I found a pocket book with a vast number of duplicates, I suppose a hundred in an upper part of a bureau; he was in bed when we went into the room; he dressed himself, and he see that I had got the pocket book, and he flew to me, and endeavoured to make away with all the duplicates, but the other and me picked up the duplicates again; we then took him to the Police office in Marlborough-street; we kept the duplicates, and went to the different pawnbrokers, we went to Mr. Berry's and got some goods, the pawnbrokers has them now; Mrs. Neale claimed the window curtains, sheets and pillow cases; I do not remember any thing else.

Prisoner. What he says of the duplicates, and a pocket book is false.


I am servant to Mr. Berry pawnbroker in St. Martin's-lane; I know the prisoner at the bar, I remember his coming to me on the 15th of March, he brought a pair of pillow biers, which I lent him two shillings on, on the 26th of March he brought three curtains and a pair of sheets, on which I lent him half a guinea, he put them in the name of Bedford or Beckford; I have no doubt of the person of the man. I remember Mrs. Neale and the officers came to our house and produced this duplicate, the same I had given; I have had the goods ever since in my possession. (Produced.)

Who brought the duplicate to you? - Mrs. Neale came with Slane and Penny.

Mr. Gardiner. I believe it is not at all unusual for people that are in distress to pawn things in other names than their own? - Not unusual, they do it very frequently. (The goods deposed to.)

Prisoner. I have a witness here to prove that I delivered these things to Mrs. Neale.


I am a hair dresser; I was waiting on Mr. Burnell on the 23d of November; I saw him deliver to Mrs. Neale, that was the landlady on the premises, the things that are missing, or charged in this indictment, one bed, a bolster, two pillows, four blankets, and two red curtains; after she had received them out of the room she came in again, and asked if she should take away the press bedstead, and he said, no, it was not in his way; he paid me a little bill that morning, and wished me a good day, and I went away.

Mr. Knapp. Is your name Hewis? - It is.

Q. How long have you known the prisoner? - Six years.

Q. What business is he? - He always paid me very honestly, I had no occasion to ask him what business he was of.

The prisoner called three witnesses to his character.

Mr. Knapp to Mrs. Neale. You have heard what the witness Hewis has been statin, that the prisoner brought things with him; is it true?

Court. He has said no such a thing at all.

Prisoner. The premises were all out of repair. If these sheets had been theirs, they must be dirty, because they had been laid in a month, and if they were their sheets they must be dirty, and not clean.

GUILTY. (Aged 63.)

Judgment respited.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

497. EDWARD KING was indicted for stealing on the 17th of June , eleven shillings in monies numbered ; the monies of William Cox .


I lost eleven shillings at the Red Lyon at Hillingdon ; I was hostler there, this man slept with me; I went to bed about ten o'clock, I discovered the money was gone in the morning about five o'clock; my money was in my right hand breeches pocket; I went down to Uxbridge, I thought he had been a soldier, and I went to the quarter master, and he searched all the soldiers, and found nothing on them; I came back again from Uxbridge, and I found him at Hillingdon, he was under the doctor's hands for his eyes, the doctor lives at Hillingdon Common; I don't know where he comes from; I lost the eleven shillings and six-pence last Monday week out of my chest; I found five shillings in his stockings he had on; there was a star on one shilling I know on the edge, I had observed it before; the constable has got that shilling now, I gave it to him the same day I found it on the prisoner.

Q. Did you find this the same day you went to Uxbridge? - No.

Q. How long after? - The next day. The eleven shillings I lost the week before I lost this eleven and six-pence; there was no marks only on this one shilling; I lost it on Monday, and I gave it to the constable on Tuesday.


I am a constable of the parish of Hillingdon; this young man Cox asked me to take the prisoner at the bar into custody, immediately he gave me the shilling which had a mark on it. (Produced and deposed to.) I took the prisoner, I found him in the yard at the Red Lyon, there was nothing passed only the boy charged him with the theft, and he said he found the money in his stocking; I took him before a magistrate, and he committed him; the prisoner said it was his own money, I asked him how he came by it in his stocking? he said he frequently put his money there.

Q. Did you know him before? - No, never see him before; he has been at Hillingdon about a month.


William Cox came up to me, I had got some work to do for this King to mend his shoes, he came up to me to tell me to take notice of a shilling with a star on the edge if he should pay for the shoes; with that when he came he did not give me that shilling, but another, and I saw that he had but one six-pence left in his purse; he went away from me down to the Red Lyon where he lodged, there he paid three shillings for his lodging.

Prisoner. I have got the paper to shew that a gentleman gave me to collect money, to go to this doctor to cure my eyes.


I have known the prisoner above twenty years; he was always an industrious man, and endeavoured for a living.

Q. Do you know of his receiving any money? - Yes, one John Davis collected money for the prisoner.

Jury to Prosecutor. Did he lodge with you the last night that you lost the eleven shillings and six-pence? - He did.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

498. DANIEL LEE was indicted for stealing, on the 2d of June , eighteen copper rivetts, value 18 s. the goods of William Theyts .


I am clerk to William Theyts , he is a copper smith ; these rivets are used to make large browing vessels, that is the sole use of them, they are made in our own shop, and in a tool that is made for the purpose. I am not personally acquainted with the fact.


This man the prisoner came to my master's house on the 2d of June, I knew him before near on five years; he rang at the bell of the shop between twelve and one o'clock, he asked my fellow apprentice if he would draw him a drop of small beer; my fellow apprentice had a suspicion of him taking something the Sunday before, and he watched him; I was informed he was in the shop, and I went into the shop, and I saw him there in the shop; he was gone off the premises before I knew he had got the nails; and I went after him, he had been in the shop about the space of ten minutes; I overtook him and charged him with having the nails about him about three doors from my master's house; I clapped my hand at his left side, and I found he had got some; I had him to Whitechapel watch-house, I pulled out four nails from the left side pocket of his smock frock and coat, and one from his right side; I gave charge of him to Jeremiah Constable the officer, and delivered the property into the officer's care at the watch-house; that is all I know of it.

Q. What were these nails for? - They were for brewing copper; they were copper nails.


I was apprentice to Mr. Theyts; I remember the prisoner coming to our shop, he came between twelve and one o'clock, and rang the bell, he came to inform us that his master had got some fresh lime, we use lime in our business, and I told him there was nobody there that could inform him whether we wanted any or not; he then asked me if I would give him a little small beer? I told him I would; he then came in and went backwards to the back part of the shop, and I watched him, and I saw him take the nails from a copper vessel, and saw him put them into his bosom, between his smock frock and his coat, and he went out of doors, and then I told my fellow apprentice, he was up stairs in the kitchen; I called him down.

Q. Did you give him the small beer? - I did not.

Q. Was this place where these nails were, light or dark? - Light; I saw him, but I don't know that he could see me; I was gone about half way up the kitchen stairs after a pot, and I looked over the banisters, I was going up to get him the beer, and I couldplainly see that he took the nails I called to my fellow apprentice, my fellow apprentice came down to him, and then he was out of the shop; I don't know what number he took; I know there were nails in the vessel before I had seen them there before.

Prisoner. I was so much in liqour I cannot give any account.

Cressey. He appeared to me to be sober.


Cressey gave me charge of the man in Whitechapel; I took him to the watch-house, and I told Cressey to search him, and I saw him take these five nails from between the pocket of his smock frock and his coat.

Q. Was he drunk or sober? - To the best of my knowledge he was perfectly sober. (The nails deposed to.)

Prisoner. I had been drinking in the morning, which I had not been accustomed to do, and was very much in liquor, and knew not what I did.

GUILTY . (Aged 48.)

Imprisoned three months in Newgate and publickly Whipped .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

492. JOHN RICHARDS otherwise RICHARDSON was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of April , one gold ring, with diamonds set therein, value 10 l. the goods of Thomas Jeffereys and William Jones .


I keep a shop in Cockspur-street ; I am a partner with Mr. Jeffereys; I did not know that I had lost it till the article was brought to be sold, which is near a month since from this time; it was brought by a person who is present as a witness, Wilson, it was shewed to some of our people in the shop, and they immediately took notice that it appeared like a ring of our own, and they brought it to me, and it appeared to me to be one of our own rings; we found then that we had lost a ring exactly of that sort; we did not discover it was gone till then.

Q. Can you tell now about what time you lost the ring? - I really cannot, it must have been within three months of this time, because I had seen it in the shop; I certainly had not sold it, because it is so particular a ring, I should have known if it had been sold, I examined the person who brought it how he came by it, and he referred me to another person of the name of Miller in Gerrard-street; I went to Mr. Miller's to see in what way he came by it, and he referred me to the prisoner at the bar; I went to him, and examined him how he came by it; he said that a person of the name of Williams gave it to him to sell, and that he was gone to Birmingham where he lived; shortly after he said, if we would let him go he would endeavour to find the person; as his account was not satisfactory, I ordered the constable to take charge, and the next day when he came before the magistrate, he told another story, he said he had it from a person of the name Wheeler who gave it him to sell.

Q. Are you sure yourself that that ring was one of your's? - The ring is so remarkable that I can pronounce it is mine, but I have those in court that made the ring.

Prisoner's Counsel. You stated to us before that it was like one of your rings? - I did.

Q. You did not know then but it might be another ring like your own.How many people are in the habit of selling articles in your shop? - There are three or four, Phillip Gilbert , Thomas Davis and another of the name of John Sharp a porter, there is another of the name of John Forbes .

Q. I suppose there is such a man as Mr. Jeffereys; has he a share of the profits? - He has.

Q. Has any body else a share of the profits? - No.

- WILDMAN sworn.

I am a goldsmith and jeweller. To all appearance this is the same ring that I was employed to make for Mr. Jones, but my two men are here.


I put this ring together to the best of my knowledge.

Q. Why do you know that is the ring? - Because it is so very particular, but I cannot be positive without taking the ring to pieces. (Takes the ring to pieces.) I am satisfied that is the ring I made for Mr. Wildman.

Wildman. I am positive that the ring Chasson put together was made for Mr. Jones and sent to him.

Court to Jones. Do you know the prisoner? - I cannot positively swear to him that I have seen him in the shop, but his person and his voice are very familiar to me.

Prisoner's Counsel. Do you think you saw him within these last three months? - Yes, I am certain I have.

Prisoner to Chasson. Can you point out any mark you know that ring by? - Yes, by the motto part, of which was on an old ring, and the latter part was added.

Jones. I had some diamond letters by me, and I turned them into this ring; they were very remarkable.


I made part of this ring, I am perfectly sure that is the ring I made part of.


This ring was brought to me to be sold by the prisoner at the bar, about the 14th of May, he left it with me two hours; I told him I was not a judge of diamonds, if he would give me leave to keep it an hour or two I would send it down to Mr. Jones or Mr. Perigall's; I sent it to Mr. Perigall's, he told me it was not worth more than ten pounds, when he came again he said he did not like to sell it for ten pounds, he must go and ask first at Mary-le-bone whether they would take the ten pounds? he came back again and told me that they would take the ten pounds, and I bought it of him.

Prisoner's Counsel. Did he bring the ring fairly and openly? - Yes, he did, he called again in about two hours.

Q. Did he make any objection to your taking it to Jeffereys and Jones? - He did not.

Q. Did he make any hesitation about leaving it? - He did not.

Q. He originally refused the ten pounds? - He did.

Q. Do you remember the name he mentioned? - I think it was Wheeler, but I have forgot the name of the street; I am sure it was in Mary-le-bone; I was in Mr. Jones's shop when the prisoner was there, and he said then that he had it of a Mr. Williams, whom he believed was gone to Birmingham.

Prisoner's Counsel. You are sure he said Williams, and not Wheeler? - I think he did; I am not quite sure.


I live with Mr. Miller; I took the diamond for my master, and carried it down to Mr. Jones, and he told me to call again in two hours time, which I did.


I live with Mr. Jones; I have no doubt but that ring is the property of Mr.Jones, but I cannot so positively say as those gentlemen that were the manufacturers of it; I remember the ring being in the shop, I can positively say to seeing of it three months back; I suppose I have seen it two months back; I was likewise present when the prisoner in our shop said that he had it of a Mr. Williams that was gone to Birmingham.

Prisoner. I have two witnesses to bring into this court to prove that Mr. Wheeler, living at No. 14, Harford-street, Mary-le-bone, offered this ring publicly to sell in the Adam and Eve public house, in Mary-le-bone. I never was in Mr. Jones's shop in my life, till I went with Mr. Miller. In my flurry I might have said that I had it from Mr. Williams, but I meant at Mr. Wheeler's, he has left his house and gone away.

- THYBAUT sworn.

Q. Have you ever seen a ring in the custody of Wheeler? - Yes.

Q. Should you know the ring again was you to see it? - It was a collar ring with a french motto.

Q. When did you see it in Wheeler's possession? - About three weeks before Mr. Richard's was taken, I was generally where I spend my evening after I have done my work, the ring was brought to to me to know what it was worth; I told him it was worth about eight to ten guineas; I am a jeweller, the prisoner was in the room at that time.

Q. Where did Wheeler live? - I don't know.

Q. Did you know Wheeler before? - I knew him by sight but not to speak to him.

Q. How do you know it was Wheeler? - I was told it was.

- ELLIS sworn.

I was at the Adam and Eve when the ring was offered to sale; Mr. Thybaut was sitting there, and they were shewing a ring, I should not know it if I was to see it.

Court to Davis. Do you know the prisoner? - I have some distant recollection of seeing him, but not to speak positively, I think I have seen him in our shop, but I am not positive of that.

Court to Jones. You said his person and voice was familiar to you? - I do believe I have seen him in our shop at the time I tell you, but at the same time I do not swear positively to the fact, but it could not be any where else but in the shop.

The prisoner called two witnesses who gave him a good character.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

500. HANNAH PAINE was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of May , two Guineas, one half guinea, and four shillings in monies; the monies of Moses Eliezer , privately from his person .


On Wednesday the 39th of May in the afternoon about seven or eight o'clock, I was going past St. Giles's, and this prisoner at the bar called me, I had known her before, and she told me she had something to sell; and I goes with her home, and she took me up stairs, and took me into a room, and she locked the door, there was nobody in the room but I and the prisoner at the bar, she begged with me so long that I lay with her.

Q. It was at her desire then? - Yes, it was. I had just before taken my money out of my breeches pocket, and put it into my watch pocket; I told her afterwards I wanted some water to drink, she told me there was no clean water in the room, to go down and fetch it; I then went to put my money from my fob intomy pocket again, and I found the money gone, and I looked on the bed, and there was nothing on the bed; and she directly ran away; I cried out stop! stop! but she was gone; I could not find her any more the same night, and about three days after the constable took her.

Q. I think you said you knew her before? - Yes, I knew her a year and a half.

Q. A year and a half? - Yes, Judge and Jury.

Q. Had you ever been at her lodgings before? - Yes, and lay with her before that.

Q. This was an old acquaintance of your's. How came you to move your money? you took her for an honest girl when you went to her lodgings; and you have not said a word of giving her any thing? - I gave her something before.

Q. Was the money ever found? - Not a farthing of my two guineas and a half, and four shillings.

Q. Was you drunk or sober? - I was sober.

Q. You was thirsty, you wanted water to drink? - Yes, but I was quite sober.

Prisoner. He asked me if I would go with him? I said, no, I was going to my work; and he said if I did not go with him he would go and fetch a constable, and say that I had robbed him.

Court to Prosecutor. How came you with so much money about you when you was going to a baudy house? - This woman called me, and said she had some things to sell, and she took it out of my pocket.

Q. Had she been used to sell you any thing? - When I went up stairs she locked the door, and said I must lay with her.

Q. How could you suppose she had any clothes to sell? - She told me so.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

501. JOHN SCOTT was indicted for stealing, on the 7th of June , seven wooden boards, value 8 s. the goods of James Maddock and Joseph Gibson .


I live with James Maddocks and Joseph Gibson ; I am first cousin to both; they lost on the 12th of June, four wainscot boards and three deal boards out of the yard; I saw the prisoner come in the morning, he had been backwards and forwards for upwards of a week, loitering about the yard, and never bought any thing; so I watched him, he had been used to buy, but not at that time; I saw him look these deals out, and hide them behind the counting house; he saw me in the yard and Mr. Maddocks, and he went away again; about twelve or one he came in again; I went down the yard and told a sawyer to look out after him; the sawyer gave me intelligence that he was gone; I followed him, and took him with the deals on his shoulder; the constable has the deals; I took particular notice of the deals when he left them behind the Counting house, and five minutes before the deals were there, and when I took him they were gone.


I saw the prisoner carry the deals out of the yard.


I am the constable. Mr. Maddocks stopped him with the deals, and fetched me, and gave me charge of him and the deals; I have kept the deals ever since.

Prisoner. With respect to the thing, I do declare that I did not know any thing of the kind till that young man came to me; I have dealt in the yard sixteen or seventeen years, in the course of that time I have laid out some hundreds of pounds; I knew no more aboutwhen he challenged me with the property, no more then you; he came to me, and said you have not settled for that; I said I have; I had been drinking; I know no more of the business than the stones I was walking upon; that young man knows that I have dealt with honesty and integrity; if I had not been as a person out of my senses I should not have attempted any thing in that yard, without expecting to have been found out.

Maddocks. The prisoner got up a wainscot pearch to watch me while I was gone out; he did not appear in liquor at all.


Publickly Whipped

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER

502. ARTHER PORTER was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of May , a silver watch, value 3 l a steel watch chain, value 6 d. the goods of Richard How , in the dwelling house of John Rook .


I lost a silver watch the 6th of May, at John Rook 's a taylor, No. 1, Saville-passage, Saville-street , where I was at work; I am a taylor ; as soon as I set down to work I took my watch out of my pocket, and put it in the corner by my side as I always do; there was no nail to put it upon, I put it in the corner by my side; in the evening I went down and forgot to put it in my pocket.

Q. Did you leave any body at work when you went away? - There was only the prisoner and me at work; just before we went away my mistress came up stairs, the prisoner asked her to lend him two shillings; she told him she had not got two shillings, she would let him have eighteen-pence, I had got on my shoes, he was buckling up his shoes; I went down first, my mistress followed me, and he followed her last; as soon as she came to the bottom of the stairs, she begged we would both come to work early in the morning as the work was in a great hurry; we said we would sooner than usual; as soon as I got out into Saville-street I says to the prisoner, I forgot to take my watch: we had some discourse about it; I said I suppose it will be safe enough by the morning; there are two young men, says he, that sleeps in the room, they will swear it is a death watch in the night; we went on all the way through Leicester-fields together; this was the Monday evening which was our club night in Long-acre, and there he said he had got a pair of scissurs grinding at Russel-court, says he, if you will go to the club I will come there presently; he went away, and I went to the house of call, and found he did not come; I related the circumstance to some young men that were there, they said they were afraid I was done out of my watch; I got up early in the morning and went to work, and I asked one of the young men if they had seen my watch that I had left the last night?

Q. Did you find your watch there? - No, I asked them if they had let that irishman come and take away the watch? they said no, he had not been back.

Q. Were they in the room when you went away? - No, The prisoner never came back to the place afterwards, left the house of call, and never was seen afterwards till I took him up for this, when I was carrying some clothes home for my master last Saturday fortnight, this that I speak of was on the 6th of May, I was in the London-road, St. George's-fields, just before we came to the Romish Chapel, the man and me run against each other, I put my hand against his breast to prevent him running against me, and I recollected his face again, I said, how do you do my friend? don't you recollect when you and me worked together inSaville-court? he said, yes; do not you recollect that I left my watch there? he said, yes; and don't you recollect that you took it away from me? he then said he would make me pay for charging him with a robbery in the street, and he asked me why I detained him? I told him I should not let him go till we had a hearing before a magistrate; this was Saturday evening, I could not get a constable, and he said he would be damned if I should put him into the watch-house, and keep him there all night, if I had any charge against him he would go to any magistrate with me, he would go to Bow-street or any where; I told him it was too late; at last he consented to go to a constable with me, and we went on, and I met a young man who assisted me, and we took him to a lock up house, facing the New Goal in the Borough, and when I got there I gave charge of him, and related the story, and he was examined, and asked where he worked? and he told two or three different stories, and they said they were sure he was guilty; at last I had a coach and brought him to St. Andrew's watch-house, and gave charge of him at the watch-house, and the watchmen searched his pockets; in his pocket was found several duplicates and a piece of a chain of a watch; I told him that piece of a chain belonged to my watch; he said I was a damned liar, for he had it given him in Birmingham a year and a half ago; among the duplicates was found the duplicate of one watch; one of the officers belonging to St. Andrew's watch-house went with me to the pawnbroker's to examine, but the watch was not mine; we came back to St. Andrew's watch-house, and gave charge of him and he was taken to Giltspur-street Compter, On Sunday some woman came to my lodging and said, if I would go to Giltspur-street Compter, I might hear of my watch; when I came home my landlord told me; I said it was too late that night; I went in the morning; when I came he said he only sent for me to know what the devil I meant by leaving him there; I told him he must stay till he had a hearing, and so I parted from him; when we went to Guildhall his wife came to me and said if I would not hurt her husband she would tell me where the watch was; the woman that went with me, took me to the house of this gentleman Mr. Barney of Old Lukener's-lane; when I came there Mr. Barney was not at home; the woman and me went to Bow-street; I had a warrant to search the lodging, but we could not find it there; Mr. Barney heard of it, and came on Tuesday morning and delivered up the watch.

Prisoner. Ask him when he went to work the next morning, whether there was not one of the men gone out of the room that sleeps in the room? - There was.


I know the prisoner, he came to me and sold the duplicate of a warch; I met him about a fortnight or three weeks before this time that he came with this gentleman's watch, he told me that he was in distress for money, because work was slack; accordingly I agreed with him as reasonable as I could, advanced him so much money on the duplicate, to the best of my knowledge I believe it was about half a guinea, and it was pawned for a guinea; and about a fortnight after he came and he said he had another watch that was a better watch than the first I had of him, and he would make a swap for another guinea; I told him that I could not afford to give him a guinea; says he, but this one is better that I have got; it looks better says I, but I am no judge; then at last I gave him this first watch back again for this young man's watch, and Igave fifteen shillings in boot at five shillings a week; the girl that he lived with came to me on Sunday, and asked me for some money; I did not give her any. On Monday the constable came up, and I was over the water in the afternoon, I sent two men down to this young man's place to tell him that I would advance the property; the next morning I went down in person myself, and advanced the property, and went to Guildhall.

Q. Are you sure that you had it of him or the girl? - I had it of him, I knew him about six weeks before.


I have got the watch; Mr. Barney delivered it to me, I have had it in my custody ever since. (The watch produced and deposed to by the prosecutor having had it three years, and knowing the number 3,942, and the maker's name Edwards.)

Gurrier. In his pocket I found six or seven duplicates, and a piece of chain which the prosecutor says that he could swear to, by a mark.

Prisoner. When I was going to work the next morning, I went to work very early, I met this man who slept in the room, one of the men who lodge in the room in which he left his watch; he took me and gave me two or three pots of beer, and he gave me this watch, either to sell or pawn for what I could get for it; I took the watch, I went down to this man's place and shewed it him, says he to me will you sell the watch? says I, it is not mine, says he, I will stand every rig of that sort, I don't care how you came by it, if I can get a bargain; he said he would give fifteen shillings and another that he had taken out of pawn before to boot, and I had sold him the duplicate, I went and advanced the fifteen shillings down to the man, and I told him I would pay him the rest at proper times; we kept drinking till it was too late to go to work, indeed I was not fit, and the next day I knew there was another man put on in my room.

Court to How. Upon your oath did you give him this watch to pawn for you? - Never.

Prisoner. It was not him that gave it me, it was the man that slept in the room, there were two single men who slept in the same room where he left his watch, lodgers.

Court to How. How long had he worked there? - I never worked there but that day before I lost my watch, I took the call that morning, he came there the Friday before.


Of stealing to the value of 39 s. (Aged 25.)

Transported for seven years

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

503. SARAH JAMES was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of June , a white linen shift, value 1 s. six linen pocket handkerchiefs, value 9 s. a white linen apron, value 6 d. the goods of Samuel Pearce .


I live at Lampton-hill near Hounslow ; I lost the things in the indictment, they were taken from the hedge on the Heath, the witness took the prisoner on suspicion and brought her to my house with the property; I had not found out the things were gone before the prisoner was brought back, she brought back the things with her with the witness, the prisoner told the witness she would bring them to the place whereshe took them from; they where given into the constable's hands, the justice delivered them to the constable; I carried them in my cart with the prisoner to the justice.


The linen was hung out about seven or eight o'clock, when she brought them back to our place they were wet; we did not miss them till they were brought back? I am sure it is our linen.


I am a constable. Samuel Pearce brought the prisoner to me, and I conveyed her to the magistrate, where she was committed, and I there got the custody of the linen, and have kept it till this moment.

JOHN RULE sworn.

Edward Deer and I were going from Brentford to Hounslow, and in the road we met this prisoner at the bar offering this wet linen for sale, and we took her up on suspicion, and before she went a quarter of a mile with us she confessed where she had taken the linen from; we then went to the man's house, and he took her down to the constable, and we went before the justice.


I was present with John Rule between Brentford and Hounslow, in the parish of New Brentford, we were coming from Brentford to Hounslow, and saw this girl offering this wet linen for sale, we took her up on suspicion, and before she was a quarter of a mile she said she took them off the common. (The linen deposed to.)

Prisoner. As I was coming along the common I saw the linen laying on the ground, and I picked it up, they were hanging out to dry.


Passed to her Parish .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

504. JOHN INGRAM was indicted for stealing, on the 22d of June , a pair of mens leather shoes, value 6 d. ten lobsters, value 4 s. five pounds weight of pickled salmon, value 3 s. a wooden salmon kit, value 2 d. and seven cucumbers, value 6 d. the goods of William Woodward .


I live in - Street, Berkley-square . Last Saturday morning between three and four o'clock when I got up I went down to my shed, I thought the door a little more open than when it was locked, I went to the door and laid hold of the part of the door, and it was open, the prisoner was inside laying down, and he jumped up, and said halloo, halloo, says I, what business have you here? he said he had been asleep; I asked him what business he had there to sleep? he said he did not know. I laid hold of his collar and took him out to the door, and held him while I put the door to; I took him up the street, and I saw the watchman, and we took him to the watch-house, and there we left him; when I came again I found my kit of salmon moved, and I thought I had lost it; I looked into my basket and I saw it there packed in another, and there was some lobsters, horse radish, and cucumbers also; I had put the kit of salmon in the place at past eleven when I locked the place up; it was moved from the place where it stood, and put into this basket which was before empty; and the lobsters, and the cucumbers stood on the top of a shelf; the basket was as full as it could hold; the lobsters were in a tub in a different place; he had wrenched the lock open, and the lock laid down on the floor, and he had got my shoes on when he was before the justice at ten o'clock; these were nigh a place where I set in the shed, what I used to wear in wet whether.

Q. Are you quite sure you locked that shed the night before? - I am positive ofit; here is the lock and nails are broke; I know the shoes by the nails on the bottom, and the wear of them, I had them for the winter on purpose for to go to market with; there was another pair in the basket and another odd one, and his own shoes were packed up in the basket likewise, and I went back and fetched them, and carried them to the justice.

Prisoner. I was in the street when he laid hold of me; he never catched me in the place at all; my shoes were my own which I bought at Rag Fair.

Court to Prosecutor. Did you know the prisoner before? - No, but I think I have seen him walking about the street.


All that I know about it is, I met this man coming up towards the watch-house with the prisoner, and he called for my assistance: I went up and asked the prosecutor what the prisoner had done? he said he had been in his shed; I said, then he shall go to the watch-house; accordingly I took him to the watch-house, and locked him up, and when we went back to the watch-house again the prosecutor owned the shoes which was on his feet; I went to the place, and saw the lock lay on the floor, and the things in the basket.

GUILTY . (Aged 24.)

Imprisoned one year in Newgate and fined 1 s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

505. WILLIAM SPENSER was indicted for stealing, on the 3d of June , four quartern loaves of wheaten bread, value 2 s. the goods of John Groom .

- sworn.

John Groom is a master baker , he lives in Broad-street, St. Giles's; I lost some bread myself; I was coming up Great Ormond-street, and I saw the prisoner with some loaves, and I pursued him, and he runs and turns down Lambs Conduit-street, and I catched him, and asked where he had this bread? he threw the loaves down; says I, it is all to no purpose, carry the bread to my basket, and there let me examine it; I carried the bread to my basket, and he wanted to get away before I could examine it; I found it was not my bread, I thought I knew whose it was: I went to the justice's and John Groom 's man was sent for, and the justice asked him what he had lost? he said four quartern loaves, three new and one stale, one rasped at the bottom; the justice examined the bread before he let the man see it; this was the four loaves that the prisoner threw down in the street, and then I told him to pick them up, and carry them to my basket; when he came to the basket he was going to throw them into the basket, and I would not let him; they were always kept by themselves; I had lost some out of my own basket, but these were not mine.


I am the person that lost the property; I was out with the bread, it was John Groom 's property, it was taken from the top of Drury-lane in Broad-street, St. Giles's, it was at a customer's door, while I was serving a lodger, in the mean time I lost four quartern loaves, one stale and three new ones; I saw them again at the justice's, and they were the same I lost.

Prisoner. The four loaves were standing in the street, and no basket nigh with them, and that man came up and made me go back with them.

The prisoner called two witnesses who had known him a great many years.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

506. WILLIAM HOLLAND was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 8th of June , a cotton shawl, value 1 s. 6 d. the goods of Simon Wall .


I am an apprentice to Mr. Russel. Last Sunday was a fortnight I saw the man take hold of the shawl with his right hand. (It was round a child's neck,) and he took it and tied it up, and put it somewhere behind him, but where it was I cannot say, this was between two and three o'clock in the morning, they were going to Gravesend; I went to see them take boat; the man had the child in his arms, the man came to assist us; it was in Spur-street, Leicester-fields.

Q. Did you know him before? - No.

Q. Who was with you? - My master and mistress, and Mrs. Wall, and two young children. The man came out of the public house facing the coach, and came to the coach window, and said he would take the child out to help us from the coach, the coach broke down, and we were getting out, and he took the child out with the shawl on his neck; I saw him put his right hand and take the shawl off the child's neck, and he tied it up, and put it somewhere behind him; then I went down to the other side, because they could not get out that side; the child was taken out of the window, and Mrs. Wall said, Thomas, where is the shawl? I said that man has got it. So my master charged the watch with him.

Q. Had he still the child in his arms when you told them that he had got the shawl, or had they taken the child out of his arms? - I cannot say that.

Q. Then the man did stay some time with the child in his arms after he had taken it out of the window? - Yes. The watchman went after him, and he had the handkerchief in his hand, and he threw it way; I saw my master pick it up.


I hired the coach a little after two on Sunday morning the 8th of June, in Spur-street, Leicester-fields; the coach broke down, and from the said coach which was broke down, they handed the child out, the prisoner did; after that they were going to handle the bundles out, with that I said, no don't handle the bundles out we shall lose them; then after we got out of the coach I asked about the shawl, and Tom said, that man had got it; I said are you sure of it? he said, yes; then I charged the watch with him, and I saw him pull it from behind him, and throw it on the ground; and I picked it up. This is the same that I picked up, that I saw him throw down.

Prisoner. I took the child out of the coach, the coach was broke down; I delivered the child, and every thing, as far as I know, as I found it; I delivered the child as freely as I took it; I have got no witness; there was nobody there it was so early; I have lived in St. James's parish thirty-five years.

Mr. Russell. He bears an exceeding good character my lord, and I hope you will shew him mercy.

The prisoner called five witnesses who gave him an excellent character.


But recommended by the Jury.

Privately Whipped .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

507. MARTHA ROWBOTHAM was indicted for stealing, on the 28th of April , two woollen blankets, value 6 s. atin pan, value 4 d. a tin tea kettle, value 1 s. a feather pillow, value 1 s. a looking glass in a mahogany frame, value 1 s. a linen sheet, value 3 s. a bed curtain made of linen and cotton, value 3 s. the goods of John Nott , in a lodging room, in a house of his , let by him to her and John Chambers , to be used by them both.

JOHN NOTT sworn.

I let the lodgings to this woman, she said John Chambers was her husband; she came in the name of Chambers.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

508. JOHN HILL was indicted for making an assault on the King's highway on Thomas Miller , on the 11th of June , putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person, and against his will, two dead fowls, value 7 s. the goods of John Osmond .


Q. How old are you? - I am going of fifteen, I have taken an oath before.

Q. What will become of you if you swear that what is false? - Go to Hell.


I am servant to Mr. Osmond, he is a poulterer . Between one and two in the afternoon, on Tuesday the 11th of June, I was coming up Jewry-street , in the city, with two fowls in a tray, and the man stopped me, the tray was on my shoulder, he stopped me, and he said he must have the two fowls for the servant would make a noise at him because they were so late; he had come and ordered them for Mr. Slater, I was present when they were ordered, he ordered them between one and two o'clock; Mr. Slater was a customer of ours.

Q. Did you give him the fowls? - No, he took them

Q. Did you refuse to give him the fowls? - Yes, I did.

Q. Did he take them by any absolute force? - Yes, I said he should not have them; he said he would have them, and I laid hold of the legs of the fowls, and he laid hold of the skewers, and pulled them out of my tray, and he ran away as fast as he could, and I ran after him, and he went up a court in the Little Minories, and asked for a person of the name of Sally that lived there, which he wanted to go into the house to, but the people would not let him; then he came out there, and I pursued him again, and he ran as far as the Little Minories, he kept the fowls all the time, he had them in his right hand, and then he knocked me down, he hit me on the side, and when I got up I was stunned, I could not pursue him; he then ran away, and put a bit of check over the fowls, they were dead fowls, I brought them from my master Mr. John Osmond ; I went to Mr. Slater, and they said they had ordered no fowls.

- KELLY sworn.

I am a poulterer, a servant to Mr. Osmond. The prisoner came to Mr. Osmond's about half past one on the 11th of June, and ordered two fowls to roast for Mr. Slater; I told him I would send them directly; he returned in about ten minutes, and wanted to take them, that was about the time that I had got the fowls ready; I not knowing him refused him, told him I would send the boy; I sent the boy; the boy returned near an hour afterwards, crying that the man had knocked him down.

Q. Had he the fowls with him? - No.

Q. Have you ever received the fowls again? - Yes, I saw them in about an hour and a half; I knew them to be the same, I know my own trussing, Dungate brought the fowls to me.


I am a green grocer. A scuffle ensued just by my door, and the fowls were dropped; I saw the prisoner drop them, it was in Church-lane, Whitechapel; I picked them up; a man was pursuing the prisoner, and crying out stop thief! I did not see the boy there to my knowledge; the fowls were taken to the Rotation office, and the shopman he saw the fowls there, and he said they were his fowls in the presence of the prisoner.


I am a labourer. I was standing at a public house door in Whitechapel, facing the Church; I heard a woman crying stop him! stop him! and I saw the prisoner running, and just as he passed me I pursued him, and I saw the fowls in Mr. Dungate's hand.

Court to Miller. How far from where this man was stopped was the place from where he took the fowls from you? - About half a mile.

Q. How came there to be a cry of stop thief and Dorman to take him?

Dorman. He was pursued for something else; some new shoes, a silver band and a hat.

Prisoner. Please you my lord I know nothing at all about it; at the change of the moon my head is light, and I don't know what I am about.

GUILTY. Death .

Recommended to mercy by the Jury, from the smallness of the injury done to the prosecutor.

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

509. DAVID CARTER was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of June , a silk handkerchief, value 1 s. the goods of Robert Alefounder .


I am a journeyman carpenter ; I was robbed of a silk handkerchief on Sunday afternoon the 15th of this month, in Whitechapel , it was taken out of my pocket; I did not see the prisoner take it, but I saw it on him; I missed it, and I turned round, and saw the prisoner with it in his hand; he had it under his jacket, I went to take it from him, and he dropped it from under his jacket; I see him let it fall, it was a silk handkerchief; I picked it up, and gave it to the constable; I took him first of all to the watch-house, and gave it to the constable there, and from thence the prisoner was taken to the justice and committed; I am quite sure the prisoner is the person.


I am a constable of Portsoken ward. I produce an handkerchief, I received it of Mr. Alefounder; I saw the prisoner, he was charged with taking it, he was in the watch-house before I was sent for. (The handkerchief deposed to.)

Prisoner. I was coming along Whitechapel between the hours of four and five, and the people walked very thick on the pavement, and there were two more lads walking close by the side of me, and a kind of a cheesemonger man catched hold of three of us, and called the gentleman back, and one of the other two dropped the handkerchief.

Court to Alefounder. Was there any other boy with him? - I believe there were two other boys with him, but I am sure I saw it drop from him, and not from either of the other boys.

GUILTY . (Aged 19.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

DANIEL BRUNNEN was indicted for stealing, on the 18th of June , a wooden trunk covered with hair, value 2 s. nineteen check aprons, value 19 s. three muslin handkerchiefs, value 2 s. five linen shifts, value 10 s. five stuff petticoats, value 1 l. 10 s. one silk gown, value 1 l. three damask table cloths, value 6 s. five linen handkerchiefs, value 5 s. a pair of stays, value 5 s. a cloth cloak, value 10 s. six china cups and saucers, value 2 s. four silver tea spoons, value 1 l. six silver tea spoons, value 8 s. one silver milk pot, value 5 s. two silk bonnets, value 10 s. seven crown pieces; seven half crowns; eight shillings; four six-pences, and a piece of foreign money; the goods, chattles, and monies of Henry Goodman in his dwelling house .


I am a publican ; I keep the Bull's Head , in Leadenhall- street . I was robbed of a trunk, and all the articles mentioned in this indictment; this man lodged in my house, I take it about two months; I missed these things from my bed room, some of the articles I missed were in the hair trunk, and some about the room.

Q. Were these articles let to him as part of the furniture of his lodgings? - No, nothing at all of them.

Q. In what room where these things kept? - Some were kept where I lodge, and where I live myself, but not all; the box was in my room, and the things were in my room in the box, or in drawers; I missed them the day after they were gone, the day after he went away with them.

Q. Did he pay for his lodging when he went away? - My wife told me that he owed nothing, that he paid very well.

Q. When he went away did he give you the key of his room? - No, the door was not locked, it was open.

Q. Have you ever recovered any of the things that were missing? - I found them at the Swan with two Necks in Lad-lane a week ago last Friday. The constable has them Joseph Green , the alderman gave them him.

Mr. Peat. The first time you saw your things was at the Swan with Two Necks? - It was.

Q. Were they all found with the trunk? - Yes, in the trunk, hat boxes and different things.

Q. Do you know whether any of these things were in the prisoner's room before this? - I do not.

Q. Then you don't know at all how they came into this box? - I do not.

Q. Where did you find the key of this box? - My wife had it.

Q. Was she present when they were found at the Swan with Two Necks? - She was, and she had the keys.

Q. How many trunks were there? - One trunk, and one box.

Q. You are a publican? - I am.

Q. Have you any partner in the business? - No, I have not.


I am the book keeper at the Swan with Two Necks, Lad-lane; I know nothing at all except that this gentleman, the prisoner at the bar, came with this luggage, a deal box, an hair trunk, two bundles and two hat boxes; they are here; I saw them opened before the alderman. I should imagine there was two milk pots I should know again; I know the hair trunk.

Q. When did the prisoner come? - He came at a quarter past four on the 21st of June, on Friday, they were put in the Liverpool hole; I am sure the prisoner brought them with another man; the officer came about half past four, and I delivered them the same things, every thing as was brought by the prisoner.

Q. How soon did you see the prisoner after this? - I did not see himat all after he left the counting house; I never saw him any more till now, except before Mr. Alderman Curtis on Saturday, I believe the next day.

Q. Did you know him to be the same man then? - Yes, I did.

Mr. Peat. You never saw the man before that day he came to your house? - Never, and never saw him but once since, and that was before Mr. Alderman Curtis.

Q. He came with another person you say? - He did.

Q. Was there any woman with him? - There was not.

Q. All the goods were in the trunks, and packed up? - There was nothing loose, all packed up in the usual way.

Q. Do you happen to know who produced the keys of these trunks afterwards? - I cannot tell from whom they were taken.

Court to Goodman. What day was it he left your house? - On Tuesday.

- GREEN sworn.

I am the constable; I produce this property which was stopped at the inn, an hair trunk, a square deal box, a bundle, a hat box, and a bonnet box; I got them from the book keeper which was in the warehouse at the Swan with Two Necks, Lad-lane; it was last Friday week, about half after four, I have kept them ever since, I took them to a room, and locked them up, and kept the key in my possession; the deal box was locked, not the hair trunk.

Q. Did you get the key at any time? - Yes, I got the key from Mrs. Goodman.

Q. How many keys did she give you? - There were three keys she gave to James Hall and me.

Mr. Peat. You say the keys were produced by Mrs. Goodman? - Yes; I took the prisoner, and Mrs. Goodman with him by the side of one another in the tap of the Swan with Two Necks that day after I had stopped the property; the prisoner was in company with Mrs. Goodman, they were both together, had a pint of beer before them, and a small bundle before them, which I have here; here are nineteen check aprons, three muslin handkerchiefs, four linen shifts, one dimity petticoat, six other petticoats, one silk gown, &c. (The same as in the indictment.)

Mr. Peat. In fact there were several articles of female dress amongst them? - There was.

Court to Goodman. Did your wife stay in the house after the day he went? - She did not. I saw him about ten or eleven o'clock, and I asked him whether he had no work? he said he had work enough, and my wife went away between five and six; they both went on Tuesday,

Q. What articles can you speak with the most certainty to? - The milk pot, the punch ladle, and the counterpane.

Q. Did you miss the things before your wife went away? - No, I found the drawers were stripped almost quite; here are several sheets, I know here is a gown that I have seen on my wife's back, and a green bonnet, but I cannot say that they are marked in my name.

Q. Did she go away at the same time? - No, I never saw him after ten or eleven o'clock, and she went away between five or six; they both went on one; I missed the things the next morning about nine o'clock when I opened the drawers.

Mr. Peat. Then Mr. Goodman, your wife went away about five or six hours before the prisoner? - Yes.

Q. Where the articles of plate in the bundles, or in the box or trunk? - I cannot say.

Green. They were found in the hair trunk.

Mr. Peat to Goodman. You know the things then only by their general appearance? - No, and having lost such things.

Court to Nicholson. You was the person that received these things, was it a man or woman that came with the prisoner? - It was a man.

Q. In what manner did you put them down? - They were only put down, Mr. Brunnen's luggage, 1 l. 15 s. The money was paid I believe by the prisoner, but I am not sure.

Mr. Peat. Then the man that was with him appeared as the witness I suppose? - He did.

Q. It was not you that saw the woman in the tap room? - It was not.

Green. It was I that saw her with the prisoner in the tap room on this same Tuesday.


I am a porter to the public house; I have seen the prisoner, he is a lodger there, I saw the prisoner on Tuesday as the wife was at tea in the afternoon, I saw him come out of the house with a shawl in his apron, and that box in his hand, I believe this to be the same shawl according to the best of my knowledge which the constable produces; that morning that he went away, the wife had said something to the husband concerning the pots, and as soon as the husband was gone he went up stairs immediately, and came down with these things.

Mr. Peat. You saw a shawl? - I did, and I have seen the shawl on her, and I believe it to be the same shawl I have seen on her.

Q. Was it wrapped up? - It was lapped over the bundle, what was inside I cannot tell.

Q. I suppose if you had seen that shawl at York you would have known it? - I am positive, you will do no good by cross examining me, because I have more behind.


When the prisoner and Mrs. Goodman was brought before alderman Curtis, I was in court, and I was desired to ask who had got the keys, and Mrs. Goodman replied that she had, and I was ordered to ask her for them; I did, and she gave me some, one of which opened this trunk, and they were both committed for this offence

Prisoner. Mrs. Goodman depended on me to do her justice, as she was going into the country, and desired me to put the things in in my own name.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

511. ELIZABETH WILLIAMS was indicted for stealing on the third of May , three linen shirts, value 15 s. a muslin petticoat, value 15 s a cotton petticoat, value 5 s. six diaper napkins, value 10 s. a muslin neckcloth, value 1 s. a linen apron, value 1 s. two linen pillow cases, value 2 s. the goods of John Ray .

SARAH RAY sworn.

I live at No. 2, Baker-street, Westminster , I lost the things in the indictment, they were taken out of the garret, they were hung up to dry, they were hung up in the morning about eight o'clock; my husband saw them there at two o'clock; I don't know what time they were taken; my husband is here; I saw some of them again at Mr. Armstrong's, the corner of Bedford-street, in the Strand; I believe they are here in court now, Mr. Armstrong has brought them; I never see the prisoner before to my knowledge.

- ARMSTRONG sworn.

I am servant to John Salkut , a pawnbroker, I took these things in the 3d of May, between the hours of eight and nine in the evening; they were brought by the prisoner at the bar.

Q. Did you know her before? - No, I never saw her before, but I am certain she is the person that brought them. (Produced and deposed to.)

Court to Mrs. Ray. How came you to know they were at Salkut's? - I delivered bills early in the morning of the articles we had lost.

- sworn.

I live with the Rev. Mr. Hodam's in Queen-street; I don't know any thing about their being stolen I only know the property, they are my master's goods sent to be washed.

Prisoner. The things were given me by another person, and when the pawnbroker stopped me I begged him to go out of the door to see the other person; he said, no, he had got me in custody, and that was enough for him.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

512. JOSEPH FRANCIS was indicted for making an assault on Christopher Fonke , on the 25th of June , and putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person and against his will, a silver watch, value 1 l. 10 s. a watch chain, value 1 d. a brass key, value 1 d. a cornelian seal set in base metal, value 1 d. and 52 pieces of foreign gold coin, value 41 l. 12 s. the goods, chattles and monies of the said Christopher Fonke .


I was robbed yesterday at eleven o'clock in the day time; I wanted to go down into the City, to exchange my Foreign gold, and I came into Holborn, and the crowd was very strong, I met a procession there, I stopped at No. 228, High Holborn , not to go among the crowd, there were iron rails before the house about half a yard high; I stepped up on the rails not to come among the crowd; there came three or four people that wanted to push me down from the rails, they pushed me down at last, one took my stick from me; I took the stick again from the man, and stepped back again on the same place on the rails; I stood there about a quarter of a minute; they pushed me very much about, and the prisoner came and took my watch out of my pocket, he catched it by the chain, and pulled it out; I laid hold of the prisoner; there was a great fighting against me, four or five more pushing me very much about, I held him fast, and took him into a shop, I then seek about for my watch, and charged him with it, and felt about him in his body; when I could not find it about him, I saw it in his hand; I griped after the watch with my hand, and he threw it away over his shoulder among the crowd of people; I saw him throw it, the watch was recovered, and I felt still in my pocket, and there was the money gone, fifty-two pistoles, Brunswick, French and Prussian coin, all gold; Icannot say who took that, there was no money found on him.

Q. Did you find any money again? - No, none at all; a constable brought the watch into the shop to me.

Q. How long do you think it might be from your being pushed by three or four people, and your stick snatched from you by one of them, before the boy snatched the watch out of your pocket? - About a minute the whole; not above.

Q. I want to know whether before the boy snatched the watch, you happened to see him in the crowd? - I cannot say that.


I was going down Holborn about eleven o'clock yesterday, and I met a society going in procession, going along I was in the road, I was not on the flags, I heard a scuffle, and I saw the gentleman taking the boy into the shop, the boy was on the ground, and I saw the watch in the boy's hand as he lay; I did not see any more of the watch till I saw it in the constable's hands.


I was walking up Holborn with the society, and seeing a great mob about the man, I went towards it, and directly as I came up to the foot of the pavement, I saw the watch up, and another gentleman and I tried to catch it, and he catched it, and seeing me an officer, having the truncheon in my hand, he gave it to me, and I took it into the shop, and gave it to the gentleman, and took the boy into custody. (The watch produced and deposed to.)


I saw the prisoner at the bar, and took some handkerchiefs from him, having orders to examine him at Bow-street before the justices.

Prisoner. I found the watch; I saw it laying among the crowd.


Of stealing, but not of the highway robbery. (Aged 18.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

513. JAMES FEE was indicted for stealing, on the 22d of June , a boy's hat, value 6 s. the goods of Robert Jacob Brown .


I lost a hat on the 22d of this month, Monday afternoon last, I went into the parlour for it, and not finding it there I had suspicion of this man; I live at No. 21, Great Suffolk-street, Haymarket , with Mr. Parry; I suspected this man, because he was there on Saturday last; he came there to enquire for a gentleman, captain Donaldson, captain Donaldson was there, he was there backward and forward all the morning.

Q. Had not you seen your hat all that time? - No, I never looked for it till the Sunday afternoon; on Monday morning I went to the pawnbroker's, and he shewed me the hat; and I said it was mine, and I swore to it.


I received the hat from the prisoner at the bar, on the 22d of June; the middle of the day, he brought it to pledge.

Q. Did you know the prisoner? - No, I don't remember ever seeing him before. (The hat produced and deposed to by Brown, by the maker's name.)


I know no more than that the prisoner came to my house to enquire after thegentleman, and he went into the kitchen, but I did not see him in the kitchen, I met him in the passage.


The prisoner at the bar came to this house after my master; I live with captain Donaldson; the first time he came on Saturday, he came down into the kitchen, he came for some time there, and then went up to the parlour, where the hat was, I went up and when I came down I saw that the door was shut, and when I got into the room I saw a bundle laid on the table which he was certainly at.

Prisoner. Was there any thing taken out of the bundle? - No.

JAMES - sworn.

I am a constable, I belong to the Police office in Queen-square; I found him in the kitchen of this gentleman on Friday, I searched him and found the duplicate of the hat in his pocket.

Prisoner. By all means I had a right to have the duplicate of the hat I had bought in the Hay-market, after paying four shillings and six pence for it, because they had a suspicion of this hat they conceived it must be that gentleman's there; I never meddled with the hat, and they cannot say that I did, except they for swear themselves. I have a few words to say. I brought this hat of a jew in the Haymarket, and gave four shillings and sixpence for it, he had told me his name was Shepherd, and that he lived in Rosemary-lane; in the afternoon afterwards I pawned it for three shillings.

GUILTY. (Aged 40.)

Judgment respited.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

514. JOHN WILLIAMS was indicted for stealing on the 2d of June , a pair of corderoy breeches, value 2 s. the goods of Daniel Edwards .


I lost a pair of breeches on the 1st of June, at Mr. Fossits, Park-lane , they were corderoy breeches lined with leather; it might be about twelve o'clock in the day, I hung them up in the hostry where our saddles and bridles hang the first of June about twelve o'clock; I missed them about twelve o'clock; I knew him before and had a suspicion of him; I did not hear any thing of him till the 18th of June, when I met him in Park-lane with the breeches on him; I did not know where he lived or where he lodged, he was very often about our yard, we had missed a great many things before, and every body supposed that he was the person; I saw him at the place, at the same time I hung the breeches up.

Q. Was he never in the yard from the 1st to the 18th? - Not to my knowledge; when I met him I was leading a horse up in my hand, and I met him coming down the lane, he had been in the yard during the time I was out, so I saw him coming along and I looked at him, and I found he had my property on him; I sent for a constable and he took them into possession.

Q. How did you know the breeches? - By the marks, I am quite sure they are my breeches, the constable William Fenn , has got them here.

Prisoner. He either offered me to let me pay eight shillings for the breeches or give him them again.

Prosecutor. He offered me his trunk to pay for the breeches, he has a trunk up in our yard.

Court to Prosecutor. Did you offer to take eight shillings? - I did.

Q. And to let him go if he would give you eight shillings? - I did. While he was up stairs there was a young man that see him hide a paper and theyfound this paper and searched it and there was twenty-two duplicates in it.


I know nothing more than being sent for to take this man into custody; I have got the breeches and have had them ever since. (Produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. No man can speak a word against my character, except about these breeches; about the 17th of May I left two pair of old breeches in that place which were not worth much; on the 3d of June or 4th, I went to see for my breeches and could not find them, by looking about I found these in the hostry and took these to put them on while I had another pair mended; I takes these to the breeches maker's, which the prosecutor knows at the time I changed them, afterwards I wore these breeches and did not know but they were my own when I took them. I have no witnesses because I expected it would have been made up, because I sent a person to Mr. Fossit yesterday morning, and he said it would come to nothing.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

515. RICHARD CAMPBELL was indicted for stealing on the 8th of June , a woman's linen gown, value 3 s. the goods of Sarah Pearson spinster .


The gown was my daughter's, my husband had been dead about eleven months, I keep a public house ; the prisoner came in and asked for a pot of beer, another was with him, and they went into the skittle ground for about five or six minutes, and then the prisoner ran through the passage, and his companion who was with him said, what a scaly fellow he is not to pay for the quartern of gin, which he has lost, but however I will stay and have it; my daughter looked out and saw him running as hard as ever he could, my daughter called me and I saw when he was out that he had a bundle under his right arm, and I am sure he had none when he came into the house.


I lost my gown on Saturday the 8th of June, I saw it in the house about twelve o'clock and discovered it gone about half after twelve, I saw it was gone off the line.

Q. Did you see any body take it? - No. I saw Campbell was in the yard and his friend, and there was nobody else in the yard; I saw him run away, he walked as hard as he could, he had got a bundle under his right side; the runners went after him and took him, I saw him again at Hog-lane, some days afterward.

Q. Did you ever get your gown again? - No.

Q. Was there other people in the house besides the prisoner? - Nobody but him and his friend, and me and the person that was scourering.


On the 8th of June Saturday, I was helping the girl to scourer; and the prisoner at the bar, and his companion, came into the skittle ground and they knocked down the skittles, from that this good man ran away, and I followed him and said to him, where is your friend? you are the man that took the gown and he continued running and said come this way and you will see him.

Prisoner. I met this other man and he asked me to have part of a pot ofbeer, after we had the drink, he asked if we should go in and play at skittles? when I went into the ground there were four men just done playing, one of them had his coat off, I was obliged to go home to leave some victuals at home; as I was coming down Wheeler-street I met this man again, I asked him why he did not stay, he said, he was obliged to go because he was sent for; as I was walking back again I met this girl, and she asked me whether I was not in the skittle ground? I said I was going to the same skittle ground, but I did not know whose it was, particularly she asked me what was the man in the white coat? I told her where he told me he was going.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

516. JOHN MORAN was indicted for that he on the 15th of June, in the year of our Lord, 1792, did marry one Elizabeth Elliott , spinster ; and that afterwards on the 14th of February last, at the parish of Hodnet, in the county of Salop , feloniously did marry and take to wife one Elizabeth Chidleigh , his former wife, Elizabeth Elliott , being alive; and that afterwards on the 7th of June, in the parish of St. George's, the Martyr, he was apprehended and taken for the said felony .

(The case opened by Mr. Knowlys.)


I am the clerk of St. George's, Hanover-square: I produce the certificate of the marriage of John Moran and Elizabeth Elliott in June 1792.

Mr. Knapp. You don't recollect the person of Moran? - I do not.


I know the prisoner at the bar.

Q. Do you know Elizabeth Elliott ? - I do, I was present at their marriage.

Q. How long ago is it that you have seen Elizabeth Elliott ? - Within three weeks or a month from this time.

Mr. Knapp. How old was Elizabeth Elliott at this time? - I don't know.

Q. How long had you known her? - Not above a month before she was married.

Q. Was she of age at the time she was married or not? - I cannot say.

Q. Did not you hear that she was under the age of twenty-one? - I cannot say any thing about her age.


I was married the 14th of last February to the prisoner at the bar, at Hodnet, in the country of Salop, I lived with him four months before I found out he was married.

Mr. Knapp. Who carries on this prosecution? - My friends.

Q. You have an uncle? - I have.

Q. Is not he at the expence of this prosecution? you are a servant girl I believe? - He has carried it on hitherto, he has been at the whole expence.

Q. This prosecution would not have been carried on, if your uncle had not instigated you to it? - Certainly, I would wish to do as the law permits me to do; I could not do it myself.


I apprehended the prisoner and took him to the sign of the Hole in the Wall, by Bloomsbury-square, in this county.

GUILTY . (Aged 22.)

Imprisoned twelve months in Newgate and fined 1 s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

317. MATTHEW JACQUES was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of April , a gelding, value 10 l. the goods of Samuel Brunders .


I am a lodger in Eagle-street; I have made shift to get enough to live without business. I had a gelding stole from me, it was kept at one Mr. Rutham's yard, in Eagle-street ; I missed it the 6th of April last, on a Saturday, when I came home. About nine o'clock at night I generally go to look at the horse, and then I found it gone, I made an enquiry and I found it at one Mr. Bishop's stables the Tuesday following; Mr. Bishop's stables is in St. Giles's; it was a sprightly looking gelding, with two white heels, I believe the bridle and saddle was gone; it was brown, I had it about a fortnight before I lost it as near as I can guess.

Q. Can you swear that the gelding you saw in Bishop's stable was your gelding? - Yes, I have no doubt about it.

Q. Did you find your bridle and saddle there too? - No, I had that sent home about a fortnight or three weeks after, by a woman; when I found the horse in Mr. Bishop's stable I told him to take care of it, and not to part with it; it was my horse, I had lost it, and I went and got an officer to demand it, to take my property, I went to Bow-street and acquainted them that Mr. Bishop had my horse that was lost, and the gentlemen there summoned him and heard the story, and when I told the story one of them ordered him to give me my horse again, and I had my horse again.

Mr. Knapp. So you lost this horse? - Lost which horse?

Q. This horse of your's? - Yes.

Q. Will you swear to your knowledge that you lost this horse? - I will swear it was taken out of my stable unbeknown to me.

Mr. Knapp. Mr. Short Hand Writer be so good as to take that down.

Q. Will you swear positively and allow that gentleman to take it down that you lost that horse unknown to you out of your stable? - Yes.

Q. How lately before the 6th of April had you seen your horse? - I saw it that morning.

Q. How came you to tell my lord just now that you had seen it at home a fortnight before? - I did not say that I believe, I had seen it that very day before I lost it.

Q. You was in Smithfield market the 4th of April I believe? - No, this happened on Saturday that I lost my horse.

Q. Was you not in Smithfield market the day before? - I believe I was.

Q. On your oath don't you know you was? - Yes, I believe I was.

Q. You never saw that man the prisoner at the bar before in your life? - Yes, many times.

Q. Where? - In Smithfield, I was very near Smithfield market and I believe I did see him there.

Q. Did not he go with you to Smithfield market for the purpose of disposing of that horse? - I don't think he did.

Q. Don't you know that you went together to Smithfield for the purpose of disposing of this horse? - No, not together, I saw him in Smithfield.

Q. Upon your oath did not you go together? - No, I believe not.

Q. Did not you drink together at your own house before you went to market? - I really cannot say.

Q. But you shall say. Did not that man come to your own house on Friday and drink with you and set off with you for Smithfield to dispose of this horse? - I don't know but he might.

Q. On your oath was it not on your own application that he came there to drink with you and go with you to Smithfield? - No, I believe the horse was lame and I met him at Smithfield.

Q. On your oath did not he meet you that morning by your own appointmentat your own house, and go to Smithfield with you to dispose of that horse? - What on Friday?

Q. I ask you on the morning of that Friday? - I say I believe he did.

Q. How came you to tell us that you only met him in Smithfield market? - I say so now.

Q. Which of them is true? - I have forgot, I have been very ill, I have had a very sad fit.

Q. Then he did meet you by your own appointment? - I forget.

Q. On your oath did he or did he not meet you at your own house? - I really cannot tell.

Q. Is it true that you met him in Smithfield market? - I think that is true.

Q. Upon your oath is it true that you met him by appointment to go to your own house with you? - I cannot say, I might say something to him about it, I think to the best of my remembrance I light of him by the doctor's.

Q. Will you swear you did not make the appointment with him to meet you at your own house? - I cannot swear to that.

Q. Who saddled the horse? - Where?

Q. Saddled the horse to go to Smithfield? - Myself I believe.

Q. Who took your mare out to go with this horse to Smithfield? - My mare?

Q. You rode them both I suppose? - Upon my word I don't recollect.

Q. Upon your oath did not this man ride the horse, and you rode the mare? - He did get up on it just by porters block at one end of Smithfield, towards Islington.

Q. How did you get the mare and horse to Smithfield? - I rode one and led the other.

Q. Will you swear that the prisoner did not ride either the mare or horse to Smithfield? - I cannot swear about it, I have forgot what was done on Friday.

Q. Perhaps you have forgot that you gave this man authority to sell the horse for you? - On Friday he said he could get a customer for it.

Q. He knew your intention to sell it? - He knew I came there to sell it.

Q. On Friday he told you he believed he could get a customer to sell it. He deals in horses, I believe? - I have been told so.

Q. Upon your oath don't you know so? - Because he never dealt with me.

Q. Don't you know that he is a horse-dealer? - He may be a horse-stealer.

Q. So may you, for which you have suffered the law perhaps? - If I have I cannot help it; I have heard that he is a horse-dealer.

Q. Did not you hear that he was a horse-dealer when you went to Smithfield market? - I believe him to be like myself, a person that now and then bought a horse, and now and then sold a horse.

Q. Did not you talk to him as a dealer in horses? - I do not recollect.

Q. Upon your oath, on that Friday, did not you speak to him, and act with him as a dealer in horses? - I don't know.

Q. When he told you that he believed he could get a customer for this horse, did not you desire him to get one for it if he could? - I don't recollect.

Q. Then for ought you know you might have desired him to get a customer for this horse? - I recollect very little about Friday.

Q. Will you take on yourself to swear that you did not give him authority to sell it? - I know I lost it against my desire.

Q. Upon your oath did not you give him authority to sell it? - I have forgot itentirely whether I did or not I have forgot all that past on Friday.

Q. Did not you go with this man to the public house in St. John street where this horse was put up? - I did.

Q. Did not you meet him there? - No, I met him at porter's block, we were there together.

Q. Did not this man pay for the horse's keep there? - No, I paid for it.

Q. Pray who took him home? - I took it home; I believe I rode one and led the other.

Q. Will you swear man that he did not ride the horse? - I will not swear that.

Q. For ought you know then he might do it? - I do not say so, I do not recollect.

Q. Will you swear that this was not so? It might pass, and I not recollect it, I don't know any thing about Friday.

Q. No, no, you don't know any thing about Friday which is a material point; I should like to be acquainted with you, who are you, you say you live in lodgings now? - Yes.

Q. Pray how lately did you learn at your lodgings that this man had been at your house to pay five guineas which he said had been the produce of the horse? - I don't know any thing of it,

Q. Have you never heard that that man had sent his wife with five guineas, as the price of that horse? - No.

Q. Upon your oath have you never heard at your own house that that man's wife came with five guineas, as the price of the horse, a day or two after the 6th of April? - I don't remember any thing of the kind.

Q. Did not you see the prisoner's wife and did not she tell you she brought five guineas as the price of that horse that was sold? - The horse cost me eight guineas and a shilling.

Q. But it might have been sold for five guineas? - I don't know any thing about it.

Q. Upon your oath did not you see the man's wife? - I did not see her.

Q. Will you swear that positively? - I believe I could venture to say it, because I don't recollect it.

Q. Do you swear positively that you did not see that man's wife who brought you five guineas, and told you there was the price or part of the price of the horse? - No such thing.

Q. Will you swear that positively? - I will, there was never any such thing as money offered me.

Q. Did not the wife tell you that she brought five guineas as the price, or part of the price of the horse? - I will swear that, that I don't know any thing about it.

Q. Will you swear that it never passed between the prisoner's wife and you? - I don't know; I am pretty sure I never heard it, I don't recollect it.

Q. Why it is a very material circumstance? - I can safely swear that I did not see the man's wife the next day.

Q. Are you sure you did not hear it the day after? - I am not sure, you ask me so many questions.

Q. Are you sure that you was not sent to gaol for rescuing a couple of thieves? - I recollect that, that was an accident, it was not for rescuing them, I never did rescue them.

Q. The jury are very unjust sometimes? - The jury I believe are very right.

Q. You then kept the Eagle in Eagle street? - I did.

Q. How came you to leave it? - Because I had money enough to live without.

Q. Was that the cause of your leaving that public house, because you had money enough to live without; on your oath was not your licence taken away? - I believe you are very right, the licence was taken away.

Q. Some people said there was a man lost his life there? - I believe he did.

Q. How did he die? - I forget, it is a good while ago.

Q. Did not he die by a chuck under the ribs with a knife, or something of that sort? - I was not there when it was done.

Q. You are acquainted with a man of the name of Richardson? - Yes, I remember such a man, I am very ill, I cannot answer any more.

Q. How many times have you been taken up for receiving stolen goods? - Never in my life.

Q. How many times accused of it? - Never in my life.

Q. You will then not swear that he did not take this by your order to dispose of it on Friday? - No, I will not.

Q. Then he might take it by your order on Friday and dispose of it? - It was not disposed of.

Q. Yes, it was disposed of to Mr. Bishop? - That was on Saturday night; I have forgot whether I gave him leave to sell it on Friday or no.

Jury. Did you give him leave on Saturday? - No, I did not.

Q. How long have you known the prisoner at the bar? - Six or seven months.

Q. Have you been intimately acquainted with him from that time? - I have seen him at Smithfield three or four times; he durst not go into Smithfield, he was obliged to stand outside of the bar.

Mr. Knapp. On your oath was not the horse taken from the stable in your presence on Saturday? - I will swear that it was taken out of my stable unbeknown to me.

Q. Where was you? - I believe I was down at Islington. It was lost as near as I can guess, between four in the afternoon and nine at night.

Q. How much money was you offered for this horse in Smithfield? - I never saw any body that wanted to buy it.

Q. Did not you tell this man that if he could sell it for five guineas you should be content? - I never told him so. I bought it at Hopkins's.

Q. Not on Friday? - No.

Q. You bought it at Hopkins's as a good horse? - I gave eight guineas and a shilling, it was lame when I bought it; I believe the prisoner was there when I did buy it.

Q. Did the prisoner pass his judgment on it for you at the sale? - No, I bought it on my own judgement. There was a great many hundred people there at the sale.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

518. ANN CAVE otherwise CAVENOR was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of June , sixteen yards of muslin, value 1 l. 5 s. the goods of George Jubb .


I am a linen draper . The prisoner came into my shop on Monday the 10th of June, between seven and eight o'clock in the evening, as I had a suspicion of her I had the muslins counted previous to her coming into the shop; my young man saw her at the window, I desired him to count the muslins in the wrapper that she was frequently asking to look at; I had two young men, servants in the shop, my wife and myself; she asked me to look at some muslins the same as she had before; she was in our shop the Friday before; one of the young men went to her, and asked her what she wanted? his name is Zachariah Senny , he did not see her steal the muslin, he served her with the muslin; shewed them her, and cut off a quarter ofa yard; after that she asked to look at some check, which he shewed her; while she was looking at the check one of the evidence that is here, counted the muslins again and he discovered that two pieces were deficient, which he told me; I desired him to take no notice till she had departed; she went out of the shop to the door; I brought her back by force, and when she got to the middle of the shop she dropped the two pieces of muslin; I saw her do it, and I ushered her into the parlour, and sent for an officer; she dropped them from her cloaths, they fell down at her feet in the struggle of going into the shop.

Q. Was there any other woman near? - Not near, there were others in the shop, she had on a black silk cloak, but whether she dropped them from her cloak or petticoat I cannot exactly say, they were concealed somewhere about her.

Q. Who took them up? - I cannot exactly say; I believe my servant did that will be next called; I have had them in my possession ever since, they have never been out of my possession.

Prisoner. Why should he think that I took the muslin any more than the other women that were there.

Court. Was these women in the shop customers? Did you know them positively? Do you believe that any other woman came in with the prisoner? - No, there was none near her nor at the same counter.

Prisoner. I have dealt with him this seven years off and on.

Prosecutor. I have seen her at the shop many times, and her conduct has been very suspicious at times.

- sworn.

I am an apprentice to Mr. Jubb. I saw the prisoner come into the shop, I had been out shewing some goods, and come home; I found her standing at the window, when I came into the shop I informed my master; he desired me to count the muslins that were in the wrapper; I found nineteen quantities; after she had been in I counted again, and I found there were two short; she chose a particular one, and desired them to cut off a quarter of a yard; while some muslins lay on the counter which she had been looking at, I see her draw something out from the counter while the other man was shewing her the muslins, and removed her gown on one side, and concealed them under her gown, I told my master of it; I then had orders to take no notice of it till she went out; my master desired I would count the muslins over again to see if there were any gone; I made but seventeen pieces of them; when she was gone out we went out after her, and I saw her drop two pieces, I took them up, and gave them to my master; he desired me to go for one of the runners, and then she was committed.

Prisoner. Why should he think I should take it any more than the other two women that were in the shop? - They were not on the same side of the shop.


I am a married woman, my husband is a cornchandler. I was in the shop at this time, I was getting served at the counter; I see her drop the muslin.

Prisoner. I went to this gentleman's shop, I have dealt there about seven years off and on, my husband is ordered out to sea; I am a weaveress by trade; I have got three children, and a young woman that lived next door to me asked me to make her an apron; work being short I went to this shop, and asked for a bit of muslin; so he took down the muslin, here, says he, here is the muslin; and he says to that young man cut her off aquarter of a yard, for which I paid nine-pence, I went then to the other counter, and left two women at the muslin counter; I was coming out, and there were three women in the shop; just coming out there is a horse like standing where there are prints on it; I looks at the prints, and I says, there is a young woman that lives next door to me that wants a piece of cotton at a shilling a week; I was just going out of the shop, and Mr. Jubb came up to me, and said, come back, you have got some muslin; the two women went out of the shop, and they left me there, and they sent for an officer, and charged the officer with me; Mr. Jubb kept the muslin; he has got now also the quarter of a yard that I paid for; I have dealt with the shop for many years, and they always took notice of my children; I have got three of them now; I have those that would give me the best of characters but they did not know of my trial coming on so soon.

The prisoner called two witnesses to her character.

GUILTY. (Aged 31.)

Recommended by the Jury.

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

519. ELIZABETH HARRIS was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of June , in the dwelling house of William Norman , a clasp knife, value 1 s. 6 d. a pair of silver shoe buckles, value 1 l. 10 s. a watch with an inside case of gold, and the outside case of Tortoiseshell, value 10 l. two cornelian seals set in gold, value 10 s. a steel watch chain, value 1 s. a base metal watch key, value 1 d. six guineas; a piece of counterfeit coin, made to the likeness of an half crown, value 1 d. and five shillings in monies numbered; the goods and monies of William Shifton , and one bank note value 10 l. being also his property.


I am clerk to Mr. Hill, Gray's Inn. On the 21st of June I left my things at Mr. Norman's, Charlotte-buildings, Gray's Inn-lane; I slept that night with this woman; I left my things at her lodgings, I never knew her before she enticed me to her lodgings, it was Thursday last about twelve o'clock in the evening, she met me in holborn; she asked me to go home with her to sleep with her; I stayed all night, when I awoke in the morning the girl was gone, I awoke between six and seven, and I missed every article in the indictment; I never recovered any thing; the girl was found on Saturday last, and there was found on her a guinea and a half, twelve or thirteen shillings and one half crown, likewise a pen knife, which is mine, and another which is not.

Q. Are you sure that the young woman from whom these things were taken, is the woman you slept with? - I have no doubt about it at all.

Prisoner. Can you swear to me? - Yes, I can.

Q. It was the other young woman. - No, it was not.

Court. Was there any other woman in the room? - There was not; nor did I see any other till I saw the candle light, there was a woman below where she light the candle when we went in, but that is the woman that I had connection with.


I am a butcher. In the afternoon of last Thursday, I and Mr. Shifton were drinking together, and he changed a five pound note with me, and I gave him a bad half crown out of a joke; next morning, Friday, between eight and nine I see him go by my shop without any buckles in his shoes, and I went tothe house where we usually drink, and there I found he had been robbed; when I heard that he had been robbed, I said, I wonder whether he has lost the bad half crown that I gave him; and I went before the magistrate, and the officers brought forward an half crown, which he took from her; his name is Smith.

- FOSS sworn.

I saw Mr. Randall give the prosecutor a bad half crown in change of a five pound note, he gave it me into my hand, and he said, now I will have a joke with Mr. Shifton, and he said he would give it him.

Q. Should you know the half crown? - I could not pretend to swear to it.

Q. Should you have a belief about it? - Yes, I think I should.

Jury. Had you it in your hand? - I had not.


I am a single woman; I am on the town; I went up to Beccy Page's room for a light last Thursday night, or Friday morning, as it was past one o'clock.

Jury. Then this house is full of women of this description? - No, only me and Beccy Page, and that young woman the prisoner. When I went into the room she brought in the gentleman's shoes and buckles, and asked me to take them out; I told her I could not take them out; with that she took them out herself, and put them into her right hand pocket; she said she had got a person in the room, and made use of a very bad expression, and said she would rob him and strip him of every thing; Beccy Page was in the room as well as me, and heard it as well as me; I went home directly, I live at No. 9, both houses belong to one landlady.

Court. How came you to give any account of it? was you taken up? - Yes.

Q. Was any thing found on you? - No, they only came to me as a witness.

Q. How came they to you? - Because I told Mr. Thackary, a shoemaker, in the morning what had happened.

Jury. If you did not live in this room, how came you to go to this house for a light? - I was in Beccy Page's room, she lives in the front room, and the prisoner in the back room of the same house.


I am a shoe-maker. On the 21st of June, last Friday, I saw Mr. Shifton standing at Mr. Norman's house; says he, my friend, I am robbed; this was about half after six in the morning; I said, who robbed you? says he, I don't know, I wish you would fetch a constable; I said who will go for a constable? accordingly Mrs. Norman let me search the house; says he, I slept in this back room, says I, this is the room that Elizabeth Harris lives in. We searched the room, and we could not find any thing belonging to a woman but a pair of patterns and a black beaver hat; that is all I know about it.

Q. Did you hear any thing from any of the girls? - When I came home I saw Margaret Nicholls in my room; Harris, says she, has done a fine jobb this morning I dare say, for she said she would strip the gentleman of every thing, and I see her take his buckles out of his shoes; I said, what you have said I shall mention to Mr. Shifton you may depend upon it, so if it is an untruth unsay it now; says she, what I see I say; I picked up the straps in Beccy Page's room, where she said she had thrown them.


I live in the house with the prisoner, in the same habits of life; I live next door; I went up stairs to give a young woman a light, between one and two inthe morning, Friday morning, and my door was standing open, the prisoner brought in a pair of shoes, took the buckles out, and threw the straps in the room; she first asked Margaret Nicholls to take them out; and she said she could not do any such thing; so she took them out herself, I see her do it, and she put them into her right hand pocket; she said she would rob him of every thing that he had.

Q. Did you go and give the gentleman notice of it? - I did not; I had not the thought in my head.

Prisoner. Did you see me take the buckles out? - I did; and you took and put them into your right hand pocket.


I am a constable of Hatton-garden; I saw nothing of the robbery; I apprehended the prisoner on Saturday last in the parish of Clerkenwell, near Clerkenwell Prison; I examined her, and found a guinea and a half in gold, and eleven shillings and six-pence in silver, good and bad; six-pennyworth of copper farthings and half pence; two small shut knives, commonly called pen knives, both clasp knives; fifteen duplicates; but they did not lead to any thing as I have understood; and a box key; I found two half crowns, one bad one.

Court to Shifton. Are any shillings marked? - No.

Q. Can you speak to any half-pence? - No, I can speak to the clasp knife, I know it by the wear; I had it two years, there is no mark particularly, but the person who ground it last put S. or Shipton on it, I don't know which, the maker's name is Charwood.

Jury. Do you swear absolutely to this knife being in your possession? - I do think also I know the half crown; I knew Mr. Randall gave me one, and I believe it to be the same I received of him.

Randall. This is the half crown I gave him positively, it has two or three scratches on it.

Foss. I believe this to be the half crown.

Court to Prosecutor. Was you drunk or sober when you picked up this girl? - I was a little in liquor I believe, I was not very much, I was not so much in liquor but I knew where I was.

Prisoner. Between eleven and twelve o'clock I was walking up Holborn, and another young woman with me, I met this gentleman and a tall thin young lad, and I spoke to the young lad that was with the gentleman, and the other young woman spoke to that gentleman; says she to me, shall we all go home to your room? no, says I, my landlady don't like it. O, says she, she will be in bed. We went to my room, and the gentleman gave me six pence to get something to drink; he did not chuse me, he liked the other young woman best; so I asked him for a trifle more; he gave half a crown and a shilling to get some rum, and I went down stairs, and left the other young woman with him; the other young man went off before we were at the top of the stairs, and said to me let me change hats with him, he is quite in liquor, he will not know it. I suppose this man robbed him, I know he was nothing better that a pickpocket, I suppose he robbed him, and then wanted to get rid of him.

Court to Prosecutor. Was you in company with any other young woman? - I was not.

Q. You went to bed with this woman, did you give her any money, or make her any present? - I did.

Q. Did you give her the half crown? - I don't know that I did.

Q. Do you recollect whether you gave her gold or silver? - Silver.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

520. WILLIAM TILLARD was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of May , twenty-nine pounds weight of copper, called sheet copper, value 1 l. belonging to Samuel Baker , affixed to a dwelling house of his .


I have a great many houses in St. Leonard's, Shoreditch ; I am a builder ; I have lost a great deal of copper at different times, one piece the constable of St. Luke's took from the prisoner yesterday morning about four o'clock, about twenty-nine pounds weight; I applied to the coppersmith that did the business for me, William Mardle ; and he fitted it. The constable has the copper.


I was the officer of the night of Whitecross-street liberty, in the parish of St. Luke's, on Tuesday night; with that about four o'clock we go off from Duty; I live about five doors from the watch-house; just as I turned myself to knock at my door I saw the prisoner at the bar with a flag basket, and heaving it on his shoulder, then his face was towards me; directly he saw me he turned round, and went up a place called Playhouse-yard; I went after him; and overtook him just as he got into Golden-lane, says I, holloo, what have got here? you have been stealing lead; no, says he, I have not; says I, whatever it is I must see it; I knocked my stick against it, he said it was a bit of copper he had found in Mr. Baker's fields; he put it down, and wanted me to take it, and let him run away; for God's sake, says he, do; no, says I, I shall not; I took him to the cage, and went to Mr. Baker's and Mr. Baker sent for a coppersmith, and it was matched.

Q. How far was this from Baker's field that you saw the man with the basket on his shoulder? - Better that a quarter of a mile.

Q. Did you know the man before? - I knew him by sight, I knew him to be a bricklayer, I had seen him before, and he knew me.


Mr. Baker came to me yesterday morning, and told me he had lost some copper, and some copper was found; I told him if it came off from his houses I could be sure to tell; I went and matched it directly to one of his houses; the nail holes and every thing it fitted exactly with the place where some copper had been put on the house.

Q. Can you undertake to say that that was part of the property that was put on Baker's houses? - Yes, I will be upon my oath it was, it was a gutter.

Q. Was it nailed or fixed on? - It was.

Q. Did you fix it on? - My man did.

Q. Did you see it before it was fixed on? - I have looked at my books, and it answers exactly to the measurement; there had been a part taken before from the house adjoining, the houses were both of a size, and each took a quantity of copper alike.

Q. If I understand you right a part of the copper which had been put on the gutter of one house was taken away, and a part left? - This that is now produced is what was taken from the whole of one house; there had been some taken away from the adjoining house sometime before.

Q. Did you try whether it would fit the gully holes of the other house? - It would not; it did not go the right way for the current of the water; we value it at twenty shillings now; but it will cost Mr. Baker more than two guineas to replace it again.

Prisoner. I found it in the fields laying in three pieces, and that bit of a bag lay by it; and I took it and put it in my basket, and took it away; I work forMr. Law, in Chiswell-street, he can give me a very good character.

Court to Baker. When had you last seen it on the house? - I had not seen the top of the house for some months, the house was built before Christmas.

GUILTY . (Aged 25.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

521. WILLIAM BENNET was indicted for feloniously making an assault on Jacques Michel Lemaire , in a certain open field in the King's highway, and feloniously taking from his person and against his will a wooden stick, value 3 d. the goods of the said Jacques Michel Lemaire .



I was robbed the 17th of this month near the town; near Manchester-square , about three or four o'clock in the afternoon; there were five clergymen of us, all of the same convent, walking in the field; after we had walked a certain time, we returned, very near where we returned from; three of these gentlemen stopped in this place about half an hour, while we were stopping in this place, three men appeared, which came from a brick manufactory in the field, and they quickened their pace towards us, and past by, speaking some words which we did not understand; when they had walked round another joined them who is not taken; the man who is not taken seized on a pair of stockings of this clergyman here, and took them up in his hand; the clergyman made some resistance to retain his own property, but after some ill treatment gave up the stockings; the man shortly came back the same way, and we in dread of extraordinary ill treatment retired; the man that took the stockings then came up and seized my cane, and as soon as I found he had seized it, I turned round and gave it up instantly when this man endeavoured to take the cane away from me, it was the man who is not taken, he endeavoured to strike me, and I gave it up directly; I did not follow him, of course he walked off quietly, and took no further notice; as to these two prisoners at the bar, they made no sort of violence, neither with speech, nor arms, nor any thing, they had nothing in their hands.

Jury. Did you see them all in company before they took the stockings? - Yes, I saw them all together about as far as musquet shot, all coming towards me, they passed by me, and I thought they were going about their own business, they all came back together.


I was in company with Mr. Lemaire, there were five of us all ecclesiastics of the same house, we walked in the meadows to settle some little matters, this gentleman, Mr. Lemaire, was quietly sitting on the grass, and as soon as we began about our little matters, washing our stockings, &c. three men came past us, and said something we did not understand, and he, who is not taken, seized on a pair of stockings which I held in my arms; I made some resistance, and endeavoured to retain them, but for fear of other violence let them go; the two prisoners did nothing, I returned in dread of ill treatment, one of them pursued me, William Bennet ; but he did not come up to me, nor touch me; I know no more of his intention but by the pursuit.

Court to Lemaire. Was there any struggle on your part to keep the stick? - When they seized on the cane the man who is not taken turned round, and seized it from me with violence, and at the same time lifted up his hand as if to strike me. It was a common walking stick, common wood in a cane form.


I was sent the next morning to apprehend the prisoners; they were pointed out to me, and I took them to Marlborough-street, and they acknowledged there that the things in the indictment were taken from these gentlemen, and they were sorry for it; we found the prisoners in the same brick field, it is I believe near Manchester-square; I took the short one, and the other officer took the tall one; they were both taken at the same time.

Prisoner Bennet. I was going across the field to go to work, and having had a drop of beer, and the other man coming up took the stockings from this man; I desired him to let him alone, and he would not; I directly went across the field and went to work.

Prisoner Millet. I was going by the side of the field, and the other man took the stockings.

The prisoner Millet called five witnesses, and Bennet one, who gave them a very good character.

Jury to Lemaire. Do you think the men were in liquor? - I don't know.

Coomer. I presume they were in liquor.

Both not GUILTY .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before. Mr. Justice BULLER.

522. WILLIAM BENNET and JOHN MILLET were again indicted for feloniously making an assault on James Penmard , and taking from his person, and against his will, a pair of thread stockings, value 3 d. his property.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

523. THOMAS BASKERVILLE was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of June , a silver watch, value 2 l. 10 s. the goods of William Bettesworth and Henry Wright privately in their shop .


I keep a shop No. 26, Cranbourn-lane ; my partner's name is Henry Wright , we are pawnbrokers ; we lost a watch in the afternoon of the 24th of June, about six o'clock; a young man came into the shop to look at a watch, he asked us to let him see one that was marked four pounds; I believe him to be the prisoner; he looked at the watch, and said it must be a good one for that money; he looked at that, and I reached him down another.

Jury. Do you swear positively to him? - I cannot, but I believe; he looked at the second watch, and I reached down the third, which he agreed to give me four guineas for, which watch was laid on the counter; my apprentice standing by removed the other two watches off, and left that on the counter; he then asked to look at a watch chain, he saw three chains, one he fixed on; he then asked for a seal; I asked him gold or gilt? he said, a gilt one; with that I turned myself round to a glass case in order to reach the seals down; the boy took the two which he had not fixed upon to put in the window again; when the boy turned himself about, which he did before I got the seals out, he was gone out of the shop with the watch; the boy turned round and said he is off; withthat the boy run out of the shop, and I after him, going out of the door I asked which way the man ran that went out? the people said he turned round the corner of the street, which is called Bear-street, the boy ran, and I ran; I seeing somebody running down the street, by that calling out stop thief! I saw him at the bottom of the street, and seeing that he was stopped I then returned immediately to my shop, because I had left it with nobody in it; he was soon brought to the door by the constable, and several people more; the constable had the watch.

Jury. There was no money passed between him and you? - None at all.

Court. I think you told us before you cannot be quite sure as to his person? - I cannot.


I was going from St. Martin's-court, and coming towards Bear-street, Leicester-fields, I observed a great concourse of people, in the front of them I observed the prisoner, I heard the cry of stop thief! imagining it to be the prisoner, I immediately ran the other side of the way, and seized him; I see several people snatch at him, he himself was calling out stop thief! I immediately seized hold of him, and clapped my hand to his pocket, in his left hand coat pocket I found the watch, and then Mr. Bettesworth came up, and said that he had been robbed, and I took the watch and boy to Bow-street, and have had it in my custody ever since. (Produced and deposed to.) The maker's name is Cole.

Court to Bettesworth. Had you delivered him that watch, or was it on the counter for him to receive when he paid for that, and the other things that he bought? - It was undoubtedly left till he had paid, while we looked for the other things.

Mr. Hosty. Is this Mr. Cole a celebrated watch maker? - I fancy he is not; I can produce the man that made it, it is not the real maker's name on the watch, it was made by one Beck.

Q. May he not put the same number on another watch? - On my oath I don't think he would.

The prisoner called four Witnesses who gave him a good character.


Of stealing but not privately.

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

524. THOMAS BASKERVILLE was again indicted for stealing, on the 15th of June , a watch, value 2 l. the goods of John Freers , privately in his shop .


I live with Mr. John Freers , I am his brother and clerk; he is a pawnbroker . On the 15th of this month the prisoner at the bar came into the shop, desired to look at a watch that was marked three guineas and a half.

Q. Had you known him before? - I had not, but I am positive it is the same, he was in the shop for the space of twenty minutes; I shewed him the watch; he did not approve of that watch; he desired to look at another that was marked three guineas, which I shewed him also; he did not approve of that; I shewed him another which was marked three guineas; then he asked to look at a metal watch; the three first were silver watches, I shewed him a metal watch; he did not approve of it; then after some hesitation he agreed for the first I shewed him, for which he was to give three guineas; he desired then to look at a chain; I shewed him two chains, a steel one and a metal one, and he did not approve of either ofthe two chains, he said there was a particular chain in the corner of the window which he should like to look at; at this time I had put up two of the watches out of the five which I shewed him first, and there remained three on the counter; when I turned myself about he said there was a chain which he would wish to look at, and he said he would go to the outside and point to it, he went outside to point to it as I thought, and I turned myself about and missed the watch, and the prisoner, and not seeing the prisoner I jumped over the counter to go into the street, and I could see nothing of the prisoner. Hearing of a robbery of the same nature I attended at Bow-street, at the examination, and I knew the prisoner, on Monday evening last; he had on the very same dress as he had on at the time he came into our shop.

Q. You never found the watch? - Never.

Mr. Hosty. Did you see him take the watch off the counter? - No.

Court. Was there any body else in the shop? - Yes, but not at that part of the shop where the watches were shewn, there were customers pledging, and two or three more people of our own.

Mr. Hosty. How long was he in the shop? - A quarter of an hour or twenty minutes; I was principally engaged with him, I took particular notice of him when I took two of the watches to hang them up; I have no doubt as to his person.

Q. You say you took down five and put up two? - I did.

Q. There were other people in the shop? - They were, but not in that part of the shop, there is a projection in the shop.

Jury. Was there any counter between where the people were pledging and the prisoner? - There was not, there was a partition about the distance of two yards.

Court. Did any of the other people run away? - No.


I know no more than coming promiscuously from St. Martin's-court towards Leicester-fields, at the end of Bear-street, I took the prisoner into custody.

Prisoner. I was in the shop I own; I went to look at a watch, but when I went out to look for the chain I found I had not money enough in my pocket, and there was an elderly man in a black coat, that went out before me.


Of stealing but not privately. (Aged 22.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

525. SARAH REDWOOD was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of May , two linen table cloths, value 10 s. a linen apron, value 1 s. a linen towel, value 6 d. a linen pillow case, value 6 d. the goods of Ann Gibson .

Ann Gibson and witnesses were called on their recognizances.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

526. WILLIAM PENNY was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of June , ten pair of cotton hose, value 30 s. fourteen pair of childrens cotton hose, value 18 s. a linen shirt, value 1 s. a silver salt spoon, value 1 s. 6 d. a silver tea spoon, value 1 s. 6 d. the goods of Charles Smith , in the dwelling house of Robert Read .


I live in Crane-court, Butcher-row ; I am a servant in the Temple; I lodgein the house of Robert Read . Yesterday about two o'clock I lost ten pair of womens cotton stockings, value 1 l. 10 s. eighteen pair of childrens cotton stockings, value 18 s. a shirt, value 1 s. a silver salt spoon, value 1 s. 6 d. a silver tea spoon, value 1 s. 6 d. They were taken from the lower part of the house; I rent the parlour, and kitchen, and the room on the second floor; these were taken from the parlour, they were taken away about two or a very little after, I was not at home at the time, I knew it about an hour after they were taken, which was about a quarter past three; I saw my things again part of them at my own house, and part at the watch-house; he dropped some in the passage, and the rest were found on him at the watch-house.

Q. Who picked those up in the passage? - My wife. I have got the stockings that were dropped in the passage, and the constable has the rest; I received them of my wife,

Q. Do you know them again? - I do. (Produced and deposed to.) They are new stockings; I deal in them, I know that I bought them by the bills that I can shew for them, and I have my own private mark on them.


I am the wife of the last witness. I came up and saw the man the prisoner at the bar, come and take them off; I hallooed stop thief! I am sure he is the man, I never let him go out of my sight till he was taken, and brought back again; he ran away when I came up; the stockings lay in the passage till I came up, and I picked them up again; I delivered them to my husband.

- sworn.

I am the constable; I was sent for to take the prisoner into custody, not being at home, as I past by the watch-house, and seeing a crowd there I went in, I asked if he was searched? they said no; I searched him, and found these two spoons in his breeches, not in his pocket, I unbuttoned his breeches, they were wrapped in a cloth, and I found the shirt in one of his pockets, his right hand pocket I believe; after that he was taken to a magistrate, and committed. (The spoons, shirt, &c. deposed to by Lydia Smith .

Prisoner. I had none of them about me, the spoons were found under the bench.

Constable. I took them first of all out of his breeches, and laid them on the bench, and somebody said what a fool to be searched so easy; and I turned round to see who dare say so, and he snatched up the spoons, and threw them under the bench himself.


Of stealing to the value of 39 s. (Aged 33.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

527. GEORGE EDWARDS was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of October , a silk cloak, value 4 s. the goods of William Bradbury .

Mrs. BRADBURY sworn.

I am the wife of William Bradbury ; I lost a silk cloak the 8th of October at London-bridge , he took it from Sarah Parker , I had delivered it to her not above an hour before it was lost.

Prisoner. I know nothing at all about it.

Jury. At what time did you lend it to that woman? - Between one and two o'clock in the afternoon.


I had the cloak of Mrs. Bradbury; it was taken from me by the prisoner on London-bridge; he asked me if I had any silver in my pocket? I told him no, I had not; he wanted a shilling or two; this was about half after one to the best of my knowledge.

Q. Was it on the 8th of October? - I do not rightly recollect, it was the same day the woman lent it me, I went from her house with it; he told me he was going to the ship that laid on the Keys, and if I would wait till he came back again he would bring me the cloak back again, and likewise give me a guinea; he asked me for it, and I pulled the cloak off my back and gave it him.

Q. Did you know him before? - No, never saw him with my eyes before. I was hired as a servant by Mrs. Bradbury, and by her desire I went with the man, and I followed him along the street with her cloak on.

Q. Had any thing been said about her cloak? - Yes, he was in the kitchen when Mrs. Bradbury gave it me, and put it on me.

Q. Did you understand he was to raise money on this cloak? - No, he asked me if I had any silver in my pocket? I told him no.

Q. Was he drunk or sober? - I really don't know, he seemed to be sober as far as I believe, he walked very steady; we did not hear of him for two or three days after, and then the cloak was advertized; I have seen it since in Mr. Hall's possession; I don't rightly call to mind what particular time, it was about a week ago or so, I cannot rightly tell.

Q. Are you sure it was the same cloak that you gave to the prisoner? - Yes, The prisoner was taken soon after he left me, I did not see him that day; when he was taken he was taken before a magistrate, and I went, and he was committed; I did not see that he was any ways disguised in liquor at all.


About two o'clock on Friday the 8th of October last, the prisoner was brought into the Mansion House by another officer, on a charge of one Mr. Horne; at that time, I observed something stick out of his pocket, and I searched him, I was attending at the Mansion House, and this cloak was in his right hand coat pocket, I asked him whose it was? he said it was his wife's, she was coming out, and he was to meet her; by order of the Lord Mayor I advertized the cloak; about three days afterwards Mrs. Bradbury came and owned the cloak; I returned the cloak when I heard the man was going to Bedlam; the magistrate persuaded me; but I can swear to the cloak. Whilst he was in the Compter I went to see him, because they said it was not safe for any body to go near him, as he had bit some of the prisoners? (The cloak produced and deposed to.)

Court to Mrs. Bradbury. How long had you been acquainted with this man? - I never saw him before that day; we are bakers, and he came in, and said as we were young beginners it would be of service to us, and we should serve the ship that he belonged to with bread, and if I would send somebody with him he would make me a present that he brought over in the vessel, which he belonged to, and I sent this Sarah Parker with him to the ship; he did not say from whence the ship came.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

528. GEORGE EDWARDS was again indicted for stealing, on the 9th of September , a muslin apron, value 4 s. the goods of Martha Holmes , and 10 s. 6 d. in money ; the monies of John Horne .


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

529. BARNARD BARNET was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of June , ten yards of harateen, value 5 s. the goods of George Brand , and

Indicted in a second COUNT for stealing, on the 13th of June , three yards of kidderminster carpeting, value 6 s. the goods of the same persons.


I am an upholder and cabinet maker . On the 14th of June I had some information from Mr. Edward Smith respecting the prisoner, and I got up the next morning between four and five o'clock, and at five o'clock the prisoner came and rattled at my door, at the latch, he was a stranger to me, then I did not know him, he came to the shop door; I have only one door, and then I asked of my boy if he had not sold some things out of the shop? I did not meddle with the prisoner that morning; the Monday morning following he came again; on the 4th, I see him there, I was in the street on the opposite side of the way, and when I came nigh the door, I heard him say to my boy, there is your master. On Monday morning the 18th, I had two officers ready to apprehend him, he was apprehended in my shop; he rattled at the door, and we opened the door, it was at five o'clock in the morning.

Q. Did you hear him rattle at the door yourself? - Yes.

Q. Did you go to him? - Yes.

Q. Did you say any thing to him? - I asked him how he came to buy any thing out of my shop? he said he had only bought some rags; I called my apprentice and asked him if that was the man that he sold the harateen furniture to? he said it was; he said this in the presence of the prisoner.

Q. What did the prisoner say to that? - He did not say any thing particular.


I am an apprentice.

Q. Have you ever been told what will become of you if you swear that which is false? suppose you tell a story, what will become of you in the next world? - God will correct me.

Q. Which way will you be corrected? have you not been told how you will be corrected? - No.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

520. ANDREW CRAWFORD was indicted for stealing on the 14th of June , one black gelding, value 9 l. the goods of Richard Matthews .


I am a master poulterer by trade; I live at Clapham; I turned my gelding out on Friday the 7th of June on Clapham common , between nine and ten; I missed him on the 8th, the morning following, about nine o'clock; I saw it again in Smithfield, on Friday the 14th of June near five o'clock in the afternoon, in the possession of Mr. Allen.

Q. What are the marks? - He had a sand crack in one of his hind feet, I think it is the near side, it was a black gelding, two white spots on the left side; I had had him about six months.

Q. For what purpose did you use him for? - For running in the cart, and riding about occasionally, and to go to market.

Q. Are you perfectly sure it was your gelding that you saw in Smithfield? - I am.

Mr. Knowlys. How late on Friday did you see him on Clapham common? - I saw him in the afternoon to the best of my knowledge.

Q. Did you see him later than the afternoon on the Common? - No.

Q. You have none of your servants here? - I keep no servants.

Q. How early on Saturday morning did you look after him? - I missed him on Saturday morning about nine o'clock.

Q. Was it late on Friday you saw him? was it six or seven o'clock? - No, not so late as that, between the hours of one and five.

Q. Had you drank your tea that afternoon? - I very seldom drink any tea.

Q. Did not you happen to know this Crawford? - I did not.

Q. You did not know he was a jobber of horses? - I learned so in Smithfield.

Q. Clapham common is not a great distance from town? - Not above four miles.


I am a butcher. This Andrew Crawford , the prisoner, brought the horse to my door to sell, in Whitechapel-road side, on Thursday the 13th of June, to the best of my remembrance, he asked me seven Guineas for it; I told him it was too much money; and he told me that it belonged to a man and that he wanted to part from it sadly, he did not know what to do with it; with that I told him to go to the man, and if he could buy it for me for four guineas, I would give him half a crown for himself; with that I suppose he was gone as much as an hour, or an hour and a half, to the best of my remembrance, with that he came back, and told me I might have the horse at that price that was bid; with that I found the horse very lame; after I had it, I thought the horse would not suit me, being so lame, I took it to Smithfield on Friday, when Mr. Matthews owned it; the horse was detained up against one of the rails, and somebody came up to me, and said that my horse was stopped, that it was stole; I ran up immediately and said, if he would swear it was his horse, before a magistrate, he should have it; with that I desired the horse to be put up at livery; and Mr. Matthews and his friends went to the Bull and Butcher, in Smithfield, while I went to Whitechapel and took this Andrew Crawford going into his own door.

Q. At the time he sold you the horse was he known to you, or was he a stranger? - I knew him very well by being about.

Q. Did you know where to find him? - did not know justly at the time, but I was directed when I went after him from one Mr. Meads, the Red Lyon. I asked him how he came by the horse? he told me, as I said before, that he had it to sell for a man; I asked him what the man was? he told me that he was something of a travelling drover, or something of that kind, to the best of my remembrance; with that we went to Smithfield, and there several gentlemen questioned him there, and there they told him if he could not make no better story then that, they thought bad would come of it.

Mr. Knowlys. This horse was sold to you in broad day-light? - It was.

Q. You knew him perfectly well by eye-sight? - Yes.

Q. You knew that he was a horse-jobber? - Yes.

Q. In your judgment, was it worth more than what you gave for it? - I had it at Smithfield, and there I was bid four guineas for it.

Q. You live in the neighbourhood where the man resides? - Yes.

Q. Therefore if he had stole the horse he could not have come to a worse neighbourhood to conceal it? - That is what I have said all along.

Q. He told you at the first time, long before there was any suspicion, that the horse was not his, but he sold it for another man? - Yes.

Q. He twice exposed himself to your view in the business? - He did, he left the horse along with me sometime, and I told him that I bought it for another young man, and he did not like it, and so I took it for myself; he wished me to put the horse in the stable the first time he came, till he came back.

Q. Be so good as to look at this bill? - I have seen it; they were distributed by the prisoner's wife in Smithfield.

Q. Now I would ask you, Mr. Allen, supposing you had a stolen horse in your possession, could you take better steps than this man has taken? - I took all the pains I could to find the man that he said he bought the horse of, one John Jones , I went up to the old George, in Oxford-road, to one John Jones , the man answered the description in every thing, and we found him, and brought him, and he had an hearing before Alderman Curtis, he was discharged; they denied one another; Crawford charged one John Jones as the person who had given him the horse to sell, but before the magistrate John Jones denied that he knew him, and this man Crawford, denied that he knew Jones; this was on Saturday morning when they had their hearing; John Jones was taken into custody on Friday night, and it was late on Friday night when we took this John Jones into custody. I appeared before Alderman Curtis on Saturday, and then this man said that was not the John Jones he meant, it was another John Jones . The prisoner's wife delivered hand bills about last Friday, it was the Friday after the horse was stole that the hand bills were given about.

Q. Do you know Edward Mitchell ? - I cannot say I do. (The hand bill read by the clerk of the court.)

Court to Allen. I think you said that you went after this John Jones according to the direction of the prisoner? - Yes, I did.

Q. Then if I understand your evidence right, the horse was sold to you on Thursday se'n-night after it was stole? - It was, and the next day I was at the market with it.


I am a constable. On Friday the 14th of June, I was in Smithfield market, I heard of a horse being stolen; I went to the public house, in Smithfield, and when I came there the prisoner was backward, and I took him into charge at Mr. Allen's desire, for stealing a horse, a black gelding. The prisoner told me of a man John Jones , at the sign of the George, in Oxford-road, that he had it of, he said if I went there I should find him. I went there, and asked the publican if one Jones was within?

Q. What did he describe John Jones to be? - In the horselery way. I took the man out of his bed at ten o'clock at night; I brought the man to the compter; the prisoner and the man had a hearing the next day before Alderman Curtis; the prisoner said he did not know any thing of that man; then Jones was discharged.

Mr. Knowlys. The prisoner still persevered that it was a John Jones from whom he had the horse, but that that John Jones was not the man? - Exactly so.

Prisoner. I had the horse to sell for this John Jones .

The remainder of this Trial, in the third part, will be published in a few days.

THE WHOLE PROCEEDINGS ON THE KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON; AND ALSO The Gaol Delivery for the County of Middlesex; HELD AT JUSTICE HALL in the OLD BAILEY, On Wednesday the 26th of June, 1793, and the following Days;

Being the SIXTH SESSION in the Mayoralty of The Right Hon. Sir JAMES SANDERSON , Knt. LORD MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LONDON.

TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND BY MANOAH SIBLY, PROFESSOR OF SHORT-HAND, No. 35, Goswell-Street, And Published by Authority.



Printed and published by HENRY FENWICK , No. 63, Snow Hill.



KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON, &c.

Continuation of the Trial of ANDREW CRAWFORD .


I am in the service of Mr. Watson and Wayley, in the Minories, in the wine way. The prisoner lodged at my house, he has been about nine weeks a lodger with me.

Q. Did he lodge with you to the very day that he was taken up on this charge? - He did; and his wife and family are now there at present; I live in New Castle-street, Whitechapel.

Q. Do you know how he used to get his living? - I cannot say; I am always out from morning to night; I know nothing of him only as a lodger.

Q. Do you recollect the day on which he was taken up? - On Friday the 11th, as near as I can guess.

Q. Do you know where he was on the Friday proceeding that Friday? - He was at home in his apartments between nine and ten.

Q. What time did you come from work? - Between seven and eight; I always leave work at that time.

Q. How long had you been at home before you saw the prisoner on that evening? - I had been out about an hour; he had been out and came in again; he went out, and came in again about half after nine, as near as I can guess; between seven and eight I first saw him at my house and he went out for about an hour, as near as I can guess, and then he came home, and went to bed; at ten o'clock I went to bed; I went to his room and asked if all were in bed? and then I went to bed; he slept level with the ground.

Q. Who fastened the door of your house? - I did myself; it was fastened with a double lock and two bolts; I left the key in the door; the room that I sleep in is close by the door.

Q. At the time you fastened the door was the prisoner in his room or not? - He was in his room, for I bid him good night, and likewise his wife.

Q. Who got up first in the morning? - I did.

Q. Did you lock him in his own room? - I had no business to do that; he fastened his own door.

Q. How did you find the door when you got up in the morning? - I found it safe as when I left it at night.

Q. At what time in the morning was it you got up? - About a quarter before seven, as near as I can guess; I found the door locked and bolted the same way precisely as I left it.

Court. How do you know it was between seven and eight you saw him on that Friday? - I always leave work at seven o'clock, and when I leave work I go home.

Q. How came you to recollect you saw him on Friday more than any other day? - Because being in his appartment.

Q. How do you know it was that day? - By his being taken up the week following, I asked him what he owed for rent? and wrote out a receipt for him.

Q. When was he taken up? - The 14th I believe.

Q. How did you know the day by the rent? - It was agreed with him to pay me so much a week for the room, and I asked him for the money on the 7th of this month.

Q. How came you here to day? - I told him I would come, to mention the time that he was within. I heard he was in trouble; he has a wife and four children; they are lodgers with me now, and she is big with another.

Q. How many miles might it be from your house to Clapham? - Four miles and a half.


I live in Fore-street, Cripplegate; I am a shoemaker, I know Crawford, I have worked for him this four or five years.

Q. Will you tell us what you know about the affair of the horse for which the man was taken up? - There was a relation of mine who wanted to buy a horse, I applied to Mr. Crawford as a horse-dealer for one about three weeks ago; I believe it was a Thursday, I am not quite positive.

Q. Do you know how long before he was taken up? - That I cannot tell, to the best of my knowledge it was a Thursday, I believe three weeks to day, but I am not certain. A relation wanted to buy a horse, I applied to Mr. Crawford, he told me that he thought he had got a horse that would suit him; I met him afterwards at the time appointed, just at the Adam and Eve, Tottenham-court-road, with my acquaintance; my acquaintance said he should like to see how the horse would go; the prisoner had the horse there; while this was going forward a person came up to the prisoner at the bar, and said, that he wanted to sell a horse.

Q. At the time this person mentioned he wanted to sell a horse, do you recollect whether that person was on a horse? - He was, and it was a black one I believe, but I am not much conversant in horses. The prisoner said that he had a horse of his own to sell, and therefore he declined buying of it. The man I did not know, but they seemed to know each other, then the man said I wish you would sell this horse for me, then the prisoner said, what money do you expect for it; he said, he should expect five guineas for the horse, but says he, if you cannot get that, sell it for what you can get for it; the prisoner took the horse from the man and the man went away.

Q. How many years have you known this man? - About four years.

Q. From the length of time you have known him what character has he borne as to honesty? - He always paid me very honest, I never heard any thing till this happened.

Court. You say this was three weeks ago? - It was, to the best of my knowledge on a Thursday.

Q. Then that is about the 6th of June? - It was the beginning of this month.

Q. How do you get your livelihood? - By shoe making.

Q. Are you a master or a journeyman? - I have been a master for many years.

Q. Cannot you ascertain the time better? - No, I cannot, I believe it was on a Thursday, but I cannot say better than that.

Court to Prosecutor. I think you said that it was of a Friday morning that you turned him out? - Yes, and I saw him again on Friday afternoon, but I cannot tell exactly what time of the afternoon.

Court to Thomas. How long have you lived in Fore-street? - About seven years, and have kept the house as long.

Q. Who is your next door neighbour? - Mr. Walker, the Green Dragon is on one side; I live in three Mariner-court; Bodel a cheesemonger, lives on the other side.

Q. When you saw this man come on the horse and ask the prisoner at the bar to sell the horse for him, did you hear nothing about where he was to meet him to pay him the money? - No, no such a thing passed in my hearing.

JOHN LEE sworn.

I keep the ride in the Spread Eagle-inn, in Whitechapel; I have known the prisoner for this five or six years, he is a very honest man, I have trusted him with score pounds, and hundreds I may say, he gets his living commonly by jobbing and buying of horses, and when he was low he would work in the stable; I have employed him myself.

Court to Thomas. Did the prisoner and the man that came up to him on the black horse, appear to know each other? - They did, they appeared to know each other very well.

The prisoner called three other witnesses who gave him a good character.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

531. DANIEL OAKUM and GEORGE TILL were indicted for making an assault, on the King's highway, on the 22d of June , on Mary Howard , and feloniously taking from her person and against her will, a pocket, value 1 d. and four shillings in monies, numbered , the goods and monies of the said Mary Howard .


I live on Walham-green. I work in the gardens; I was robbed last Saturday night of a pocket and four shillings, just against the Horse Shoes in Fulham-fields , a little after ten o'clock at night. I went along with a young woman, or otherwise I should not have gone, the young woman's name was Nancy Barnes ; I knew the prisoners before, we were all drinking together at the Three Horse Shoes. I had known them above two months, we sat drinking about two hours at the Three Horse Shoes, as nigh as I can guess.

Q. How many were there of you at the Three Horse Shoes? - There were five of us in all, the two prisoners, me, and Nancy Barnes and another man, I drank the value of three glasses of hollands gin; I cannot say how much the man drank, but we were not disguised; there was a good deal of liquor drank, the man and I came out, and the other three followed us about ten minutes afterwards; the man's name that came out with me was Thomas Wilmot ; I am sure that was the name.

Q. Did Nancy Barnes come out too? - No, she stayed with the other two; the others came after us in about ten minutes; we were coming along the field, and Daniel Oakum came and knocked Thomas Wilmot down, and kicked the shoes off his feet.

Q. Do you know whether they were acquainted together before? - Not that I know of.

Q. What did he say? - He came up to him and damned him at first.

Q. What for? - That I don't know, he did not say for what.

Q. Were they angry with you and Thomas Wilmot for coming away before them? - No, he did not say so.

Q. Did they object to your going away before them when you left the Three Horse Shoes? - I don't know, they never desired us to stop with them we said we were going, they came the same way as we did.

Q. What did you say when Daniel Oakum knocked Thomas Wilmot down? - I stood still, never said a word; then he struck up to me and took and cut my pocket off with four shillings in it, he did nothing else to me, only cut my pocket off and took the four shillings, I don't know what became of him then, they went away from me partly directly.

Q. Did not you ask what they meant by it? - I did not ask any thing about it, I was so much frightened.

Q. What became of you afterwards? - I went home afterwards.

Q. Who went home with you? - Nobody at all.

Q. What became of Nancy Barnes ? - Nancy Barnes was not with me. She was at the Three Horse Shoes, they came away and left her by herself, I never saw her any more; Wilmot worked with me; I did not lodge in the same house with him then, but I do now.


I went into the Three Horse Shoes to have a pint of beer, I happened to see this girl that worked with me there, and I asked her to drink, and she drank three or four glasses with me and part of a pint of ale; I was there about an hour and a half, and Mary Howard and Nancy Barnes were in these men's company when I came in, and when I came in Mary Howard left their company and came to me; I stayed with her about an hour and a half, she and me came out together and went about an hundred yards from the house and stopped, talking together, and Daniel Oakum and two more came up, and Daniel Oakum knocked me down, one was the other prisoner that was with him, but I did not know the other man; he said he would have my money, and picked my pocket of ten shillings, and they took my shoes and buckles off my feet; and they cut the pocket off Mary Howard 's side, and took four shillings from it. I saw some money, she said it was four shillings, then they went about their business.

Q. Are you sure as to the person of the prisoners? - Yes, I am, Oakum and Till were two of them, the other was in the Three Horse Shoes drinking with them all the time that I was there.

Prisoner Till. Will you say you was sober? did not you go out of the Horse Shoes as drunk as possible? - They were both very forward in liquor, and they laid down on the side of the path in a very beastly manner indeed.

Jury to Wilmot. Did you go home with Mary Howard ? - I did not, I left her there in the road; I went home without any shoes, I had got to go almost a mile.

Q. How came you to think of leaving Mary Howard by herself after her pocket was cut off? - She was not capable of geting home, she was frightened or something or other.

Q. Then she chose to stop with the men? - She did not stay with the men, she stopt by herself.


There was an information came to Bow-street, and I went yesterday morning, and apprehended the two prisoners in a little cottage in Fulham-field; I found nothing there at all.


I went to assist apprehending these people; I found nothing.


I went along with Mr. Harding and searched the house, I found nothing.

- JONES sworn.

I know no more than what the other gentleman has said, I went along with them to apprehend the men.

Prisoner Oakum. Directly as I was done my work, I work for Mr. Feilder, Fulham-field, I went to the Three Horse Shoes to pay for a little beer that I had, I went there about eight o'clock, we had a pot or two of beer; these women came in first and that man came in afterward, and they began tossing for liqour, Nancy Barnes was in Till's company, he was in the house before me; Nancy Barnes and Mary Howard came in together, and when that man came in, that woman went away from our company and went to that man, I dare say they drank about half an hour with me, and then Nancy Barnes was in that young man's company. I and Till were drinking together before the women came, when they came in they set down by us, and drank with us; and directly as that man came in, that girl went and sat down by him; Nancy Barnes lodges in the same house with Till. Wilmot and Mary Howard tossed up for six or seven quarterns of gin, and when they went out they were as drunk that they could hardly stand, lye, or go; and they fell over the hedge. This man took her over the hedge and lay with her in the fact, and a matter of five or six other young fellows all stood round, and that is the real truth, I have witnesses to prove that we passed by and never troubled our heads with them, only they are not here, we never stopped one minute. I was only took yesterday, we surrendered ourselves up.

Prisoner Till. I went to the Horse Shoes to have a pot of beer, and this man and I were drinking together, and Ann Bailey , and that young man came in after us, and when that man came in, she went and tossed up with him for liquor, for the value of five or six quarterns of gin; afterwards they went out and he took her over the hedge, and there he lay with her in a beastly manner, and we went by when we came out and never spoke a word to them.

Court to Wilmot How many men did you leave with Mary Howard when you ran away and left her in the field? - Never a one, I am sure of it.

Q. What was her fancy to stay there by herself? - I don't know indeed upon my word.

Q. Did you see any body after you went out of the Three Horse Shoes till the prisoners came up? - Not one, nobody at all.

Court to Mary Howard . What company was you in after the man left you? - I could not go away I was so frightened because they knocked me down twice. I stopped there all night


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

532. DANIEL OAKUM and GEORGE TILL were again indicted for feloniously making an assault on the King's highway on the 22d of June , on Thomas Wilmot , putting him in fear and feloniously taking from his person and against his will a pair of leather shoes, value 1 s. a pair of iron shoe buckles, value 1 d. and 10 s. in monies numbered ; the goods and monies of the said Thomas Wilmot .


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

533. MARY HUTCNINSON was indicted for stealing on the 7th of June , four guineas , the monies of Richard Wittington .


I lost four guineas on the 7th of June, in the evening, between eleven and twelve o'clock at night, in Little Alie-street, Goodman's fields , in coming out of Somerset-street, into Alie-street, this woman laid hold of my arm, and asked me to go and drink a glass of wine? I told her I would have nothing to do with her, she still proceeded on the street with me; she began to be rude, feeling about my breeches, and by that means knocked her bonnet off. I suspected she had some ill design against me, so I says, you will not say I knocked your bonnet off; she said no, on which at that moment, I felt her hand in my breeches pocket, as I supposed, for I did not find any thing, I took the money out of my breeches pocket and put it in my coat pocket, that she should not take it, she did not get the money when I supposed she was at my pocket, I walked on further and I found her hand at my coat pocket, and I clapped my hand into my coat pocket and found the four guineas was safe there, which I supposed then was a mistake, thinking her hand to have been there. I went on further and I found her hand in my coat pocket again, and she immediately turned away and bid me good by. I clapped my hand into my pocket and found the money was taken out, I turned round immediately after I had missed my money and laid hold of her; I then took her to the watch-house, when we came to the watch house I gave charge of her, and the officer searched her she declared she had no money about her, except a bad shilling, a good shilling, and three pennyworth of halfpence, which was all the money she was possessed of.

Q. Did the officer search her? - They did, they did not find any thing on first searching her, I was positive about the money, and would not give the money up; at last the officer, says possibly she may got it in her stockings, two of the police officers, who were there, insisted on her untying her stockings, and when she untied her stockings, one of the officers saw the shape of the money on the inside, he laid hold of it and he said here is some of it; then she resisted till the second officer got up, and he found two guineas more, one guinea more she concealed, which I did not know where it was put. I saw the money, the three guineas, taken out of the stocking myself.

Q. Had you known the woman before? - No, never.

Q. How long might it be from the time she first accosted you, till the time you lost your money, and that you went away from her? - I suppose it might be the space of ten minutes or not so much.

Jury. Was you perfectly sober? - Perfectly so.

Mr. Knapp. In what line of life may you be in? - I am a jeweller.

Q. A master jeweller? - Yes.

Q. Where do you live? - In Lambert-street, Goodman's-fields.

Q. Where had you been spending your evening? - I had been taking a walk up the City-road.

Q. What at eleven o'clock at night? - That was seven o'clock that I went up there.

Q. Where did you go in the City-road? - I walked up as far as the Green Gate and back again.

Q. Did you go into the public house? - Yes, I looked in at the pleasure ground at Peerless Pool.

Q. Did you drink any thing there? - I drank part of a pint of ale.

Q. This was between seven and eight o'clock, what other house did you go in? - Not any other till I returned to Somerset-street.

Q. Then you went into one there? - I did.

Q. What time did you stay there? - Till about a quarter after eleven.

Q. What time did you get there? - A quarter after nine.

Q. You were there two hours then drinking, what had you to drink? - I and another we had a pint of porter and some lamb chops, and a glass of gin and water between two.

Q. And no more than a glass of gin and water? - No, besides the pint of porter.

Q. Had you any thing else besides the gin and water and the pint of porter to drink? - No.

Q. Nothing else drinking the whole course of the time? - Nothing else.

Q. Are you a married man? - I am.

Q. Does your wife live with you in Lambert-street? - She does.

Q. You have been out as late in the evening before now many times? - I suppose I have been out late as well as other men.

Q. So late as twelve o'clock? - Yes, now and then.

Q. Perhaps now and then you have had the misfortune to meet with prostitutes before now? - We cannot walk along the streets without them, nor no other man else.

Q. How soon did you begin to dream after this woman came up to you, that she meant to charge you with the robbery? - I was not asleep, so I could not dream.

Q. How came you to take it in your head that this woman meant to charge the watch with you, because she merely laid hold of your arm? - Her bonnet tumbled off by accident and I did not know her design.

Q. You state that on your oath? do you mean to have the jury believe you, that you supposed because the woman's bonnet dropped from her head that she had an idea of charging the watch with you? - I do.

Q. The money you say was in your breeches pocket? - It was at first.

Q. Do you know which? - Yes.

Q. Which? - In the right hand pocket.

Q. Was that next the woman or the other side? - Next the woman.

Q. Was the breeches pocket buttoned? - I don't know it was.

Q. Will you swear it was buttoned? - I will not.

Q. Do you recollect when you went out whether you had buttoned your breeches pocket where your money was? - I cannot, it might be buttoned or it might not.

Q. So you apprehended when you supposed the prisoner was going to rob you, that the safer way was to put it in your coat pocket, and you mean to say that money is safer in your coat pocket than in your breeches pocket, you think it more likely for the breeches pocket to be robbed than the coat pocket? - It is most likely they will look to the breeches pocket.

Q. This was after the attempt to rob you that you put it in your coat pocket? - It was.

Q. Don't you think the coat pocket a great deal more likely to lose the money from than the breeches pocket; if you were to take a large sum of money into the street of a night, you think the best way would be to put it in your coat pocket sooner than you would put it in your breeches pocket? - Yes, when a person has a design on any particular place.

Q. Then you looked upon that to cross the design. Is it not more free than the breeches pocket? - But it is not a place so subject to find money in.

Q. The woman had not left you all the time? - She had not.

Q. So she must have observed you change the money? - Possibly she might.

Q. If she was close to you, she must have seen you change your money? - I don't know but what she might.

Q. Then she had easier access to your coat pocket than she had to your breeches pocket? - That was no rule, she had no right to take it out.

Q. You say there was four guineas you lost, and you only found three? - No.

Q. The woman never got out of your custody, you pursued her directly? - Yes.

Q. The guineas you have got here? - I have not got them; the officer has got them.

Q. You was very much frightened she would charge you with the robbery, on this bonnet business? - I did not know but that she might.

Q. Did she attempt to call the watch? - She did not

Court There was nothing particular about your guineas, that you can know them from other peoples guineas? - No, none at all; I don't know that there is.

Jury. We wish to know how she had the opportunity of putting the three guineas in her stocking, without his observing, if she never left him.

Mr. Knapp. How long time elapsed from the time you first saw the woman, to the time you got to the watch-house? - About twelve or fourteen minutes.

Q. How long time had elapsed from the time you suppose you lost your money, to the time you left her in the watch-house? - About ten minutes.

Q. You say the first thing that made you suspect the woman, was the hand near your breeches pocket; then you supposed she had an idea of robbing you. Was there any watchmen in the street? - Yes, there was a watchman in the bottom of the street.

Q. Did you after that call watch? - I did not; I suppose the watchman was above an hundred yards distant; it was after I past him that it occurred; when I past him I had no occasion to speak.

Q. If you had chosen it, having seen the watchman, you might have resorted to him afterwards, and made a complaint?

Jury. Did you pass the watchman with this woman? - Yes.

Court. Whereabouts was it you first supposed that she had got her hand in your breeches? - In Little Alie-street.

Q. Was it before you past the watchman? - It was after.

Jury. When the attempt was made at your breeches pocket, do you know how far the watchman was from you? - About seventy, or eighty, or a hundred yards; I did not see him, because my back was to him, I did not see him at all.


About a quarter past one, the eighth of this month, I came into Whitechapel watch-house, and I saw the prosecutor there, and he said he had been robbed of four guineas; the prisoner was sitting on the bench, and he said he had searched her, but he could not find any thing about her. She declared she had but fifteen-pence and a bad shilling about her; then he said he had no suspicion further, without the money was in the top of her stocking; accordingly she pulled up her coats pretty high, above her knee, and I saw the marks of money on her shin bone, I took hold of it, and I pulled down the top of her stocking, and I found it was a guinea; I took and pulled her stocking right off, and two guineas more fell out, which Nash picked up.

Q. Was that mark on the shin bone above or below the garter? - Below the garter.

Q. Her stockings were gartered, were they? - They were.

Mr. Knapp. You see the prosecutor at the time, did he appear to be sober? - Very sober.

Q. Are you an officer? - I am.

Q. If I understand you right, the prosecutor told you where the money might be found? - He did.

Q. Nash is an officer I believe? - He is.

Q. Though Nash and you were searching her, you could not find the money except from his information? - He said he had searched her all over, except in that place.

Q. And in that place he desired you to give your attention to, so that it was from him were you learned to find it.


On the 8th of June, about a quarter after one in the morning, I had occasion to go into Whitechapel watch-house, I heard the prosecutor say that he had been robbed of four guineas; I asked the constable of the night if he had searched her? he said he had, and could not find any thing at all. I sat there some time, and then the prosecutor said he believed it must be in her stocking; she heard him say so, and she declared that she had but one shilling and three-pence, and a bad shilling in her pocket; she very readily pulled up her clothes; and directly as she pulled up her clothes Mr. Franks saw the guinea, and catched hold of it; she made some little resistance, but with the assistance of me he untied her stocking, and pulled it off, and two guineas were in it. We pulled the other stocking off, and then we had a woman to search her above; we thought we had proceeded far enough.

Mr. Knapp. Nash, how long have you been an officer? - Seven years.

Q. You had been searching her, and could not find out where the money was? - I did not search her.

Q. The prosecutor gave the intelligence where to find it? - He did.

Q. You searched her in consequence, and three guineas were found? - Yes.

Q. Though you searched her with all the delicacy you have stated, and a woman afterwards, you did not find any thing but these three guineas? - She was even searched as close as a woman in the world could be searched.

Prisoner. I never spoke to the man first, he wanted me to go and drink a glass of wine, but I refused him. It was my husband's money that I had about me; he gave me five guineas; I had got a loin of lamb roasting and my husband was not come home to his time, and I was going to the Horns, in Whitechapel for him, and this gentleman met me, and would detain me, and pulled me about, and wanted me to be concerned with him in the street; At last he took and unbuttoned his breeches entirely, to lay with me by main force in the street; at last he said, when he found he could not have his revenge of me, that I had picked his pocket of four guineas.

Nash. She said she had the money of her husband, in the watch-house; but I went to her husband, and he denied giving her the money.

Court. When did she say it was her husband's money, before or after you found the three guineas? - It was after the money was found.


Imprisoned six months in the House of Correction , and fined 1 s.

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

534. ROBERT FOX was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of June , four wooden casks, value 1 l. four hundred and eighty gallons of linseed oil, value 60 l. the goods of Thomas Winslow and John Thackary .


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

535. MARY WILLIAMS was indicted for stealing, on the 11th of June , a pair of womens leather shoes, value 2 s. the goods of Mirty Cooling .


I lost a pair of womens leather shoes, the 11th of June; I am of no mechanical profession; I lost them on Tuesday when I went to dinner, the prisoner at the bar came in with a stick in her hand; I live in Cheese-court, Mary-le-bone; the stick was about the length of a boy's foot, and asked if I had a pair of boys shoes that answered to the size of that? I said, no; there were several shoes laying in the window, I had bought some to sell again, and several pair of them womens; she went away again; then after dinner I went out on business, there was an old woman that I have for an house-keeper, I left her behind with four children which I have; and this old woman, the prisoner, returned when I was gone; when I returned home again this woman was in custody in my little parlour, with some neighbours; I see a pair of my shoes in the possession of a neighbour, Francis Murray .

Prisoner. Did you ever see me in the shop, or did you ever see me touch a shoe belonging to you?


I am a smith. I have got a pair of womens shoes. On the 11th of this month I was called out by a woman, and they told me that a woman had stole a pair of shoes of Mr. Cooling; I followed the woman to the top of the court where he lives, Cheese-court, and I saw the woman lay down something on the steps of Mr. Scotland's door, a vine vaults there, I was about the length of this court off, a woman followed the prisoner likewise; when I came up I saw the woman pick up the shoes at the place where the other put them down, the other woman is not here, I see her pick them up, and the woman she delivered up the shoes to me, and desired me to take care of them I brought them, and have kept them ever since. I brought the woman, the prisoner, back again to Mr. Cooling's house; and when he came home I shewed him the shoes, in the presence of the prisoner; and he said they were his shoes; and she told me that she would wish to speak to the man that belonged to the house, because she had spoke to him before. (The shoes produced.)

Prisoner. Ask that gentleman when he came to me in the middle of the street, and when he said stop that woman, he and another naked man with him, whether he saw me have the shoes? - I did not see the shoes in her hand, but I saw her lay something down, and when I came up I saw that they were the shoes, and I saw another woman pick them up. (The shoes deposed to by Cooling, by the mark which he made himself on them a fortnight before.)

Court to Cooling. Were these shoes in the room when the woman came in and asked you for a pair of boys shoes? - They were; they laid in the shop window; they were womens shoes.

Prisoner. I was coming down the street by the butchers market, Oxford-road, this man and another little naked shoemaker, followed me, and said, stop that woman; and they stopped me, and I said what have I done? they said, you have stole them shoes; I said I had not a farthing in my pocket; says he, you are a liar; says he, you put them shoes down; says I, I have not, I know nothing about them; says he, where do you live? I told him. Then he took me to that gentleman's house, and when that gentleman came in they took me to Marlborough-street, and there they kept me. I never saw them shoes if it was the last word I was to speak.

Court to Murray. Did you see the other woman take them up from the ground? - I did.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

536. WILLIAM JAMES was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of June , a brass curtain rod, value 2 s. and two harrateen curtains, value 2 s. the goods of Richard Burthroy .


I am a victualler ; I lost the curtain rod, and the harateen curtains; they were fixed in the parlour; the rod was screwed in, and could not be taken off without a little trouble, and the curtains were on the rod; I lost them on Wednesday last, between four and five in the afternoon; I know they were there about an hour before, and I can identify the property.

Q. Where were these curtains fixed? - It was fixed to the house; it hid a water closet; the curtains were fixed on the rings in loops, so as to take off.

Q. Were the curtains harrateen? - Yes.

Prisoner. did you see me have any thing in my possession? - I was not at home at the time.


This man came in for a pint of ale; he offered bad money; I told him I could not take it of him; he went away without paying for it; and I went after him, and in a little time he dropped the curtain rod from under his coat; we could find nothing on him, but that he had no curtains about him, nothing but the rod; there was a woman with him, she conveyed away the curtains first, and he stayed behind; the woman and he came into the public house together; and I served them; they stayed in about an hour; the woman went first about five minutes before the man.

Q. You found these rods on the man; did you ever find any thing on the woman? - No, she went away, we never saw the curtains any more, they were hung up at the water closet; the rod was fixed at one end, and screwed at the other end.

Q. When had you last seen the curtain safe? - I had seen it just before the man and woman came in, and all right, and as soon as the man had left it, when he went away, it was gone.

Q. How far is that water closet from the room where these people were? - It is in the same room, it is a water closet made in one corner for gentlemen to go to; they were sitting in the room the whole time; it is a parlour for gentlemen to go in.

Q. But there is some separation between this parlour and the water closet? - No, only the parting of the rod and curtains to keep the place from people seeing of it.

Q. This was the rod and curtain they took away? - It was,

Prisoner. Ask if he did not see the woman take the curtain and give me the rod? - I did not; I found the rod on him; he dropped it, and ran away; I took him and held him till I sent for a constable.


I am a constable; I was sent for; the prisoner was in the house; I had the rod of John Harris; I thought that he might have one of the curtains about him, and I searched him, but did not find the curtains, but I found thirty-four bad six-pences, eight bad half crowns, and very resolute he was, and hit me while I was searching him; I examined the rod, and it fitted the place exactly, the screw answered, and it fitted the place right in.

Prisoner. Please you my lord I was in Lukener's-lane, and a woman said come in here, and have something to drink, and she left a parcel which I took up in my hand, and put it in my pocket; I went to pay for my beer, and they would not take my money.

GUILTY . (Aged 20.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before. Mr. RECORDER.

537. JOHN CARTER was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling house of Robert Croner Margaret Croner being therein, about the hour of three in the afternoon of the 11th of February , and feloniously stealing therein, a cotton waistcoat, value 5 s. a cloth jacket, value 4 s. a silk cloak, value 10 s. a muslin apron, value 4 s. two muslin caps, value 2 s. a pair of silk stockings, value 2 s. the goods of the said Robert Croner .


The prisoner at the bar was at my house; I keep a little house, he rented a room in my house, and paid every night for about a fortnight, or rather better. On the 11th of February the prisoner at the bar was in my house all the morning, till about three o'clock in the afternoon, about which time the prisoner at the bar he came down, and he borrowed a tub to wash in; my wife was going out, he saw her getting the things on her child to go out, in her own room; he went out and bought coals and wood, and took it up in his own room; coming down the second time to my room he came into the kitchen, and borrowed a kettle to boil some water for the washing, then the bed room stood open, and he had a view of the bed room and all the place; my wife she went out, and he stood in the passage while she locked the kitchen door; no mankind was in the house but the prisoner, and no person but one woman big with child up three pair of stairs, besides my wife and the prisoner; my wife went out, she was not gone above an hour, and she returned back and found the house broke in from the back yard; I saw the place broke of the glass of the window of the bed room.

Q The back of the house was it broke from within or from without? - From without. She did not shut the shutters of the window when she went out; there was a catch inside that they could not get at without breaking the glass; when she came in the catch was loose, and the glass broke; there was a catch inside that they could not get at without breaking the glass; when she came in the catch was loose, and the glass broke; there was a large chest of mine in the bed room, and the night preceding this I put all my things in that chest, and this pair of stockings I wore the same day, the Sunday; they were in the chest, I left the key in the chest. I don't know whether I locked it or not, I left the key, the box was opened, and all my things were taken out, there were two coats taken out, two waistcoats, one pair of black silk stockings, that was all that was taken out of the box; from the lines of the room there were more taken, two coats more were taken from the line that was across the room, and two waistcoats, and a pair of breeches, a jacket, a pair of boots, two shirts, a silk cloak, out of the room, a cotton gown, two muslin caps, a muslin apron, a pair of leather breeches, two cotton shawls, a sheet was also gone off his own bed in the room that he slept in; there was nothing taken besides wearing apparel except the sheet. My wife returned back, she was not goneabove an hour, she found the place robbed, she suspected the prisoner at the bar, she ran up to his room and opened his door; in the afternoon she came to me to the shop where I was, and told me of it; the next morning I went to Bow-street, and did not see his face till last Wednesday, since the 11th of February, when he was brought on his trial for robbing of a man of sixteen shillings, and I was acquainted of it from the magistrate; I saw him in Marlborough-street office.

Q. How came you to be acquainted by the magistrate that this man was taken up? - I advertised in hand bills, and a reward for taking him.

Prisoner. Ask him whether he let the room to me or to one George Webb ? - My wife let him the room.

Q. Ask him whether he did not take up George Webb to Bow-street, and he was discharged after two hearings? - I did; I took him up on suspicion that he might know something of this man robbing of me and he had his discharge; there was proof come that he was with his mother all the day.


I am the wife of the last witness; I missed a great deal of wearables, six cloth coats, and shawls, and a cloak, all the articles in the indictment I missed, they were all in my bed room, some in a chest, and some loose on the lines; I missed them at three o'clock in the afternoon, I went out, and when I came back I found the room broke in.

Q. What time did you go out? - I went out about three, and I was out about an hour; when I went out the window was fastened down with an iron catch, when I came home there was a pane of glass broke, and the iron hoop was pulled up; when I missed the goods I suspected John Carter , and I went up into his room and I found his door open, the key was in the door, and I picked up this silk stocking by his bed side, it is my husband's stocking, I know it; he left one behind in the chest where the robbery was committed, and I brought it down and fellowed it, which I can swear to be my husband's.

Q. They may be fellows, but how do you know them to be your husband's? were they marked? - They were not; but I can swear to them; he wore them the Sunday before the robbery was committed.

Q. When did you next see the goods that were stolen? - I never saw nothing more of the goods than this silk stocking. There was a sheet likewise, which he had on his bed, which I forgot to mention, and I missed that likewise, there was one marked on, and one unmarked, and I missed the unmarked one. He was immediately pursued after, and advertised, and hand bills given about.

Q. When did he go away from your house? - He went away the same day as he committed the robbery; I never saw him again till he was taken on suspicion of another robbery.

Prisoner. Ask her whether she let the room to me or George Webb ? - I will be on my oath I let it to the prisoner, and he paid me six-pence earnest at the same time.

Q. Ask her whether this said George Webb did not come along with one Moore that lodged with her before? - There was nobody come to take the room but him; and he paid me six pence earnest.

Q. Ask her whether there was not one George Webb lay with me from the time I came into the room? - I don't know who he had for his bedfellow, I noticed he had him with him for a few nights in the room, but not for a consiancy; but this day the robbery was committed I make an oath he was not there from nine in the morning till ten at night; and after the robbery he was committed that night, when he came home to my apartment.

Q. Ask her whether it is not a common lodging house for all forts of jack ass chaps? - No, it is a lodging house for working people; but at the time there was no other lodger but a woman that was big with child, making of soldiers clothes, and she is with me still.

Q. What is the value of the things you have lost? - I dare say the cheapest I can value them at is six or seven pounds, and my husband if he was obliged to pledge the articles could get that for them, that he has marked them at.


John Carter was brought to Marlborough-street on a charge of felony; I took him into custody for robbing a man of sixteen shillings; he was committed for re-examination from Monday to Wednesday, in the mean time I had information that this man had advertised having lost things the 11th of February; I went and fetched the parties forward up to the office, and they came and give evidence against him, and he was committed.

Q. Did you find any goods when he was committed? - No.

Prisoner. I was at work for a plasterer, and so I light of that George Webb , and as I wanted a lodging he said he had a room, for which he paid five-pence a night that was half a crown a week, and he said if I would pay half that I should lodge with him, and George Webb asked me to lodge with him; coming home one night I heard that this said Mr. Croney had taken up this said George Webb for a robbery, and I did not go home that night, because next morning I was going to a country job, and then I heard afterward that he was looking after me; he had this George Webb up to Bow-street, and likewise three girls that used to come up with this George Webb , and had them examined, and they were discharged; I was up about this six weeks from the country, and about the neighbourhood ever since, and he said he was resolved to have forty pounds if he could, for to make up for his goods. I paid George Webb the twopence halfpenny a night, and he paid the five-pence. I have no Witness but my mother.

GUILTY . Death .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

538. SARAH DOWNES was indicted for stealing on the 4th of June , three linen shifts, value 4 s. and three shillings and six-pence in monies numbered ; the goods and monies of George Rochford .


I am a married woman; my husband's name is George Rochfort , my husband is a journeyman smith . I lost three shifts from a lodging house, I brought them home on the 3d of June; on the 4th of June I went out to work, and when I came home, I laid me down on the side of my bed; the prisoner was distressed, had no home nor habitation; I thought she would be an assistant to me, to help my little girl to take care of the children. When I awoke in the morning I missed her out of the room, on the 5th of June I awaked myself, about nine o'clock in the morning. I go out to work, I found her in the necessary, and she had a quartern of butter in her apron; she came in and sat down, and had her breakfast with me; it missed with rain, I said to her, I think I will go and buy me an handkerchief; but it rained, I did not; I heard her say to my little girl, if you don't go for some coals, I will lick you;in the mean while I laid down again, and she took three shifts and three shillings and six-pence out of my pocket.

Q. Did you see the shifts in the room when you awoke at nine o'clock? - I did; I had them in my hand.

Q. Did you get out of bed? - Yes, I got up.

Q. What time did you lay down again? - I believe about half after eleven.

Q. Where did you put your pocket? - Inside of the bed with me.

Q. Was you asleep when she took out the pocket? - I was.

Q. And there was three shillings and six-pence in? - There was.

Q. You did not see her take it, nor awake till she got out of the room? - I did not.

Q. When did you awake again? - About one o'clock; and she was gone, and three shifts, and three shillings and six-pence.

Q. Had any body else access to the room? - Nobody but a child of three years old; he was paddling about the room, and was in the room when I awoke; I found two shifts on the same day, the 5th of June, I found her in Lukener's-lane, and at No. 5, she had got both these shifts on. one on the top of the other. I never found the third nor the money.

Q. Look at them shifts, and tell us how you know them. - I know them too perfectly well to my sorrow, they are marked.

Prisoner. Her own daughter, of fourteen, took the money out of her pocket; as for the other shift I am innocent of. She is not a married woman, her name is Ann Coleman . - I am lawfully married, that is easily proved.

Court to Prosecutor. Had you a daughter of fourteen years? - She is about thirteen, she went out before I went to sleep, and did not come back till three o'clock.

GUILTY . (Aged 27.)

Imprisoned six months in the House of Correction , and fined 1 s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

539. CATHARINE CARTER was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of June , a cloth purse, value 1 d. ten guineas, and two half guineas, and sixty shillings; the monies , goods and chattles of John Hutchinson .


On the 5th of June, about eleven o'clock at night, I was coming down Brick-lane, into Whitechapel, and I met the prisoner and another woman, they came and spoke to me; I had seen them before, but never spoke to them before; the other woman that was along with her I went home with, I gave her six-pence for something to drink, after I gave her the six-pence I put the purse into my jacket pocket again; after she had gone down a few minutes this woman at the bar came into the room; I stood behind the door as she was coming in, she rushed her hand into my pocket, and took my purse, and ran down stairs, and I after her; my purse was in the left side of my jacket pocket; there was a very good light in the room; I went down below after I followed her, and went to the people in the next room, to lend me a light, to go backwards to see for her, as I was not certain whether she went backwards or forwards; they would not lend me one for about four minutes, so I never saw the prisoner till I see her at the office on Monday last; afterwards the young woman, that I went with, gave her oath at the justices, that CatharineCarter was along with her, and afterwards gave her oath that she never saw Catharine Carter before. She is in New Prison for perjury.

Q. What room was this? - A one pair of stairs.

Q. As I understand you, when the other woman was gone for the liquor, this woman came and immediately snatched at your pocket; did she say any thing? - No.

Q. Did she offer to take hold of you, or do any thing, or say any thing to you? - Nothing at all.

Q. What did you do or say to her? - Nothing at all.

Q. When you gave the other woman the six-pence, this woman was not there? - She was not.

Q. Did she attempt any other pocket? - She did not.

Q. When she came up in the room and took the purse, how long might she be in the room before she went out? - She went out that instant, it was done instantly; she was not there above a minute.

Q. What part of the room was the candle in? - The candle stood behind me in the corner.

Q. Had you ever been in that house before? - Never before.

Q. Was you drunk or sober? - I had part of a pint of beer, and a pint of ale.

Q. Was you perfectly sober? - I was not perfectly sober, nor I was not drunk.

Q. What money did you lose? - Ten guineas, two half guineas and the rest in silver.

Q. How came you to have so much money about you? - In my business; I went to pay a bill, and the man was not at home, and I meant to bring my money home again. I went but about eight o'clock,

Q. That is a late hour to pay a bill? - No. I was very near home when I went with this woman.

Q. Did you suppose you was more safe because you was near home? - The first woman asked me to give her some beer; I said yes, and I gave her six-pence.

Q. Did you find any thing on her when you took her up? - Nothing.

Prisoner. He has false swore what he has said, this young man has taken up another girl and has had two hearings. - I took the other girl up first to tell where this girl was, because I supposed that she went down and told this girl which pocket the money was in.

Court. What business are you? - I am a butcher.

Prisoner. This girl said that she thought I was the person; on that I was taken up the last Sunday night, when I came up on Wednesday before the justice, they asked the woman whether I was the person? she said she never saw me in her life time, she took her oath so to the justice; he knows nothing of me no more than what he goes by hearing; I never saw the man in my life time till I saw him last Monday. I am a misfortunate woman.

Prosecutor. I had seen the prisoner before that time in the street.

GUILTY . (Aged 35.)

Imprisoned twelve months in the House of Correction and fined 1 s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

540. THOMAS TRIMBLE and ROBERT MARTIN were indicted for stealing, on the 24th of June , a live tame swan, value 10 s. the goods of his Grace the Duke of Northumberland .

JOHN BELL sworn.

I had the care of his Grace the Duke of Northumberland's swans; they are kept in the Canal, at Sion , in his Grace's parks; this swan was sitting on her eggs very near her month, I secured her withhurdles near the water edge to prevent dogs or cattle doing any injury. On Sunday night last she was sitting on her eggs, on Monday morning she was gone, eggs and all; Sunday was the 23d, on the morning of the 24th I missed her; I knew no more of the swan till it was discovered by this other witness.

Q. Pray what security was about this swan? - It was hurdles seven or eight feet high, and the swan was pinioned there that she could not get over; I had her marked on the bill D. N. on one side, and Sion on the other.


On Monday morning I was returning to Isleworth, I met the two prisoners in Isleworth-lane, in the high turnpike road, I went up to them, and bid them good morning, I asked them what they had got in that handkerchief? I see they had something in the handkerchief, Martin had it, I asked him what he had got there? the other made reply, here is the egg of it; immediately John Lumsdale took it in his hand and examined it, John Lumsdale said it is a swan's egg, and then John Lumsdale took hold of the neck of the swan, and pulled it out of the handkerchief, it was dead; immediately I made answer this is a rum thing.

Court to Bell. What is a single swan worth? - About a guinea; sometimes we give two or three guineas for a pair.


On the 24th of June, I was along with this man John Taylor ; I met with both the prisoners in the same place where the man mentioned before, I went to them, and the drummer, Martin had an handkerchief in his hand; we asked what he had there? the other man replied here is the egg of it; Martin had the swan, and Trimble had the egg; I took the egg into my hand immediately, I made a reply to this man, that it was a swan's egg; with that I went up to the drummer and looked in the handkerchief, I had hold of the neck of the swan, and said that it was a swan, then the serjeant, Mr. Taylor, made reply, how that it was a rum thing the private man Trimble said, that if he had been in America that was nothing at all to what he had done? then we returned the egg and parted.

Q. How came you to return it if you thought it was a rum thing? - The serjeant was along with me, and I thought it did not belong to me.


I am the serjeant to the party of these two men; I was quartered at the Rising Sun, in New Brentford. When the constable and the serjeant of the late hours, brought Martin in as a prisoner, I asked what he was a prisoner for? he made answer, if I would go out he would shew me; the reward was twenty guineas; I asked who was concerned with him? he said, Thomas Trimbell .

Q. Was Trimbell present when this past? - No, he gave himself up as soon as he heard of it. I then went to Trimbell's quarters, and found the swan, and brought it down, and delivered it into the constable's hands, that is all I have got to say.

Q. Did you happen to see the bill of that swan? - I did.

Q. Is there any letters on it? - I did not take much notice, there is some appearance.

Q. What was the colour of the swan? - White,


I was in the Rising Sun, at New Brentford, this serjeant went up to the plow and brought down the swan, and delivered it into my hands after I had taken the drummer. I am a constable.

Q Did you examine it and look at the bill? - I did; there is a mark, I suppose it may have been letters, but I cannot distinguish it for my own part.

Court to Bell. Have you seen the swan since it was recovered? - Yes,it is here. (Produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner Trimbell. We were sent to Hounslow after a deserter; we went on the road very nigh to Windsor, then we got no account of him there; coming home, in the morning, I cannot tell rightly, I was intoxicated in liqour, I saw something laying down on the hedge side, I had the drummer along side of me, I took it up, and the drummer came up to me, and took it up, and took it home, and did not know the consequence; as soon as I heard that a person was after me, I went and delivered myself up.

The prisoners called serjeant Fletcher who gave them a very excellent character, Martin having been a drummer seventeen years; and Trimble a soldier for fifteen years.

Thomas Trimbel , GUILTY . (Aged 27.)

Robert Martin , GUILTY . (Aged 27.)

Imprisoned three months in Newgate and fined 1 s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

541. JANE TAYLOR was indicted for stealing, on the 11th of June , a pair of linen sheets, value 6 s. the goods of William Wingfeild , in a lodging room .


I live at No. 8, Lukener's-lane. I let her every thing that was necessary, bed, bedstead, table, chairs, and every thing that is necessary, bed, blankets, and sheets, a pair of linen sheets; she stayed one week in the lodging, she came June 4th, that day week she set off, and these linen sheets was missing.

Q. Did she pay you for your lodging? - No. There were two sheets lost; one was offered to sell by a man, to Mr. Bristol, who charged the watch with him.


Mr. Bristol called for the watch, and I went, and I found a man had a sheet, and when I came up he knocked me down, and I took up the sheet, and have kept it ever since.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

542. JOHN FREEMAN was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of William Shortman , about the hour of one in the night, on the d of June, and stealing therein, a boiling copper, value 10 s. a hempen bag, value 3 d the goods of the said William Shortman .


I live at No. 43, Chamber-street, Goodman's fields , I keep a house there; I work for Mr. Russel, in Houndsditch, I am a shoe cutter , I work at Mr. Russel's, No. 54.

Q. Is any business carried on at your own house? - I have a business there that my wife carries on, in the shoe way; I have the shoes of my master. On Sunday morning the 2d of June , between the hours of one and two, I was alarmed by the next door neighbours calling my name Shortman, thieves' I heard nothing before, I put on my clothes as soon as I could, and went down stairs, and found my door open, I am certain it was bolted when I went to bed, I cannot say it was locked. The tiles were taken off the top of the house, the rafters broke; he had gone into the house, and had taken a copper from the house, he had put a flour bag into the copper, which I had received from my cousin who serves me with flour, and I was not taken away. The tiles were off and the rafters broke.

Q. How long had it been in that condition? - The landlord had mended it but two days before; I know it was whole when I went to bed; the tiling had been fresh pointed two days before. These tiles were taken off and the rafters broke after I went to bed; there were five tiles taken off, there was a hole large enough for a large man to get in.

Q. Did you miss any thing besides? - Nothing else. He carried the copper away on my neighbours premises.

Q. When had you seen that bag before? - On Saturday, my wife emptied the flour out of it. That flour bag was in my possession, it was in the house, it was not in the copper when he took the copper out.

Q. Where did the copper stand? - It stood the further end of the kitchen, near the chimney, I had it fixed up about six or eight months ago, it was fixed by brick and mortar, it cost me twelve shillings the fixing of it, I had a bricklayer to do it. He wrenched it out, and he pulled it entirely out.

Q. This was between one and two o'clock when you got up? - It was.

Q. Do you know who bolted the door? - I bolted the door myself.

Q. What does your family consist of? - My wife and child. There is another lady in the house, but she was in bed. I was not in bed till near one, as it was Saturday night, and we do not leave business till twelve Saturday night.

Q. Where did you find these things when you got up? - I found it in my neighbour's yard, the sack and copper.

Q. Did you find the man or any body else? - I did not see the man till I see the watchman bring him in, which was as soon as I got down almost, the neighbours opened their door, and I went in and the watchman brought him in, he said he caught him on the wall.

Q. Did you know him before? - I did not he was a stranger to me, my wife saw him on Saturday afternoon.


I live near the last witness. On Sunday morning between one and two, my mother was up, and she came to me and told me there was somebody in the yard, accordingly I went to the window and did not see any thing, and was going back again, but turning back again I see my next door neighbour's door open; Mr. Shortman's. I directly hallooed out Shortman, watchman, thieves. The watchman being in the other street heard a noise, he came running down the street, my father being at the front window, shewed him the way behind, when I found the watchman was coming I saw the prisoner at the bar come out of Mr. Shortman's; it was light enough to see any body.

Q. When did you see him come out of Shortman's? - On the first alarm I made to Mr. Shortman. Shortman, thieves! I observed the door was open; this was before he came out; the pales are low which parts the two yards, and I see him get over the pales out of Shortman's into my father's yard We have tools that are called a spokeshea and a mallet; when I see him getting over the pales I flung a spokeshea at him, he then attempted to get up a pig sty. There is a pig sty in the yard to get on, to get on to the wall by that, I then flung out a mallet; I was above stairs all this while at the window, and flung it at him, the man then fell from the wall into our yard again, my father went down finding the watchman was gone round to assist him, and I went down to assist my father and did not see him in the yard, but immediately as I got down I heard the watchman say, I have got him; he said he had got him getting over the wall.

Q. When you see him come out had he, or had he not any thing with him? - I did not see him with any thing at all

Q. Did you see afterwards the copper and the flour bag? - I did, they were in our yard, just by our gate.

Q. Did you see them before you came down stairs, or not till after? - Not till after.

Q. Was he in such a part of the the yard that you could have seen him from the window? - No, he was not.

Q. Did you know the prisoner before? - No, never saw the man before.

Prisoner. I was very much in liquor. - He rather seemed to be in liquor.

Q. Did or did you not observe that the man that came out of the house had the appearance of being in liquor or sober? - I did not.

Q. Then you think he had the appearance of being in liquor when you see him? what distance is Mr. Shortman's door from your window? - Not far, I saw his face plump, for when I flung the spokeshea he turned round and looked at me; I could not be so positive to his countenance as to his dress, size and appearance altogether. I do think it is the same and am sure of it.


My wife made an alarm of thieves. I got up to the fore window and hallooed out watch! watch! while my son was calling out thieves! in the back way; I told the watchman to go up the gateway as fast as he could, accordingly he did, and I and my son both went down stairs in our shirts, the man got out of our yard and we opened our gate and the watchman brought him in, Mr. Shortman and the constable took him to Whitechapel watch-house; I saw the copper in the yard, I did not mind the bag, I thought it was our copper at first.

ADAM KING sworn.

I am the watchman, it was about half past one I heard an alarm of thieves, and immediately went to assist up the yard, and found this prisoner making his escape from Nellum's yard, I immediately laid hold of him and took him to Nellum's yard, I had some suspicion there were some more in the yard, after that I took him to the watch-house.

Q Did you see any thing of the copper and the bag? - Yes, I saw the copper in the yard.

Q. Did you take them into your possession? I did not take them.

Court to Shortman. Had you the copper and bag? - I had. The person that sent the flour rent for the bag and he has it. I have neither copper nor bag here.

Constable. I took him to the watch-house and searched him and found on him a couple of knives, a gimblet and a steel.

Prisoner. He says he took a gimblet out of my pocket which I never saw in my life.

Constable. He threw away the gimblet when I was taking him to the watch-house, and I picked it up, I see him throw it away.

Prisoner. I know nothing of the affair I am as innocent as a child unborn. I am destitute of friends; I am a seaman brought up to the sea out of America.

GUILTY . Death . (Aged 30.)

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

543. JAMES ATKINS was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of Thomas Francis De Knight , on the 3d of June , with a felonious intent, the goods and chattles of the said Thomas Francis De Knight, burglariously to steal .


I rent a parlour in Gibson's-court, in the parish of St. James's, Westminster , in the house of John Watkins . On the 3d of June, I went out about nine o'clock in the evening, and double locked my door, I have only one door; the street door was not locked; I left my key with an opposite neighbour. I returned about a quarter after nine, as near as I can recollect; I found the door was open, the lock was forced off, the lock staple that holds the lock was forced off, and thrown down, it was found double locked, but still the lock was forced off.


I saw two lurking fellows lurking about this court, as I stood at the top of the court; I went in and acquainted my father and mother of it; while I was in acquainting my father and mother with it, when I came out first I found James Atkins joined with another, and while I was in acquainting my father and mother James Atkins passed the window, and looked in; our window is right facing Mr. De Knight's; I said there he is; the prisoner is the same; Mr. De Knight's door looks into our window; he went up the arch way and whispered with another, we could hear the whispering; I went out and saw him shoot into the passage all of a sudden, of Mr. De Knight's room, and I ran in, and found him inside of Elizabeth De Knight's room, and the box staple wrenched; it was the parlour door.

Q. Did it, or did it not, appear to have been locked? - It was double locked. I asked him what he wanted there? I collared him by his coat; he said he wanted one Mrs. Lewis, a mantua maker.

Q. Is there any such a person living in your neighbourhood? - Not that I know of, and I was born where I live now. He turned about then, and instantly my mother came running, and we both laid hold of him, and insisted to know what he wanted, we told him we would detain him till we knew what Mrs. De Knight had lost; and while we were holding him somebody fetched a constable, and the constable came and searched him, and found three keys on him, one looks very suspicious, it is here, a pick-lock key, or a patent key. I am a carpenter; I know something about keys. We found nothing else but a few shillings. The other man that was along with him stood about six feet from him, in the arch way, as I suppose to see what he brought out; I had seen them both together before in the arch way, the arch way is about two yards from the door at the beginning. As soon as I catched hold of the one he walked on, and while we were in the room, and the constable was searching the prisoner, we heard that he was looking in at the window.

Prisoner. He said he catched me in the house; I was knocking at the door. - As soon as ever I catched him in the room he instantly attempted to knock at the door with his knuckles, and said halloo; but I found him inside of the door; he got back from me as soon as I collared him, but my mother instantly came up, when I asked him what he wanted? he said one Mrs. Lewis.

Q. Are you quite clear that he was inside of the door at the time you took hold of him? - I am.


On the 3d of June, about the hour of nine, I was sitting in my own room, which is opposite to Mrs. De Knight's; mine is a jut-out window, with is light on each side, I was sitting there, and my son comes in, and says, where is Mrs. De Knight? says I, she is just gone out, and I have got the key; she had left the key with me as she has a child;he came in and told me that there were several suspicious men that had been lurking about at Mrs. De Knight's, that he had been watching for a quarter of an hour; while he was relating this, the prisoner past by the window, I got up from my chair and I saw him.

Q. Did you see him so distinctly as to be able to know his person again? - Perfectly.

Q. How light was it? - It was too dark to see to work; it was dusk, rather about nine, or something after, it was light enough to discern any body, it was light enough to discern it was him.

Q. Is it from what you see of him then that you are able to know him again? - No, he past by the window and looked in, and I looked at him, and when he got under the arch way I heard a whispering, and in a moment I see him dart instantly in; O dear, says I, the man has got in.

Court to Elizabeth De Knight . Did you lose any property at all that night? - None.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

544. SARAH JONES was indicted for feloniously making an assault on the King's highway, on John Mac Mullein , on the 21st of June , putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person, and against his will, a silver watch, value 1 l. a steel watch chain, value 1 d. a base metal watch key, value 1 d. the goods of the said John Mac Mullein .


I lost a watch, on the 21st of this month, about twenty minutes before nine, to the best of knowledge, in the evening, I lost it in Hyde park ; I was walking there; I was just walking in, as I went in I found a child's shoe, which I took up into my own hand, I judged some child had dropped it some where; this was before the robbery, this was the way the woman made up her acquaintance to speak to me, I took the child's shoe into my hand, and I saw a little girl with a child in her arms, and she was crying; I asked her what was the matter? she said she had lost the child's shoe; I then gave the little girl the child's shoe; on which another woman came up with this woman, and told me to give the child the shoe; and then she came up to me, and I told her I had given the child the shoe; then they told me that they were walking in the Park, and at the same time I was going to have a pot of beer at the public house, and these same two women came into the public house to me.

Q. How long was you walking with them in the Park before you went to take a pot of beer? - Not above five minutes.

Q. Did you go in with them or did they follow you? - They followed me in as a part of my company; I told them I would give them a pot of beer; with that I took the beer, and there was a soldier came in, sat down in the same seat, and said that it was very severe work, he was at exercise, and he called for a pint of beer; we drank the pot of beer, and when the pot of beer was out the woman went away, and left me there; then the soldier began chattering with me, and I told the soldier I would treat him with a pint of beer; I did so, and before that pint of beer was out these two women returned; then they told me I was not safe to be in the company of a soldier, accordingly I told them I never was afraid to sit in a soldier's company. When the pint of beer was out I got up to go home, and they came out along with me, and walked along with me, the two women and the soldier, into Hyde Park; we all four went into Hyde Park, it was my way home, I thought to part with them to gohome, and this woman here attacked me for my watch; on which I was struggleing for my watch, she got it out of my hand by giving me a blow on the back of my head, and knocked me down after a long struggle, on which there was a man came up to my assistance, and asked me if I had been robbed? I told him I had; says he, had you a watch? I told him I had; says he, have you got it now? no, says I, I have not. She made off when she had got the watch, and left me on the ground, and she was taken in the gravel pits, and the watch, by the man, and brought to me.

Q. What became of the other woman and soldier? - They got away while the man was pursuing after this woman, they were not taken; they were both present.

Q. What business are you? - I am a servant.

Q. Had you been drinking? - No more than one pint of beer just after my dinner.

Q. Was you perfectly sober when you was treating these women? - I was pretty sober, very sensible of what I was doing.

Q. Was you quite sober? - I was, I did not take any thing to make me otherwise.

Q. You had no acquaintance with them before? - Never saw them before.

Q. Had you any acquaintance with the soldier? - Never.

Q. What part of the Park was it that you wanted to go away from them? - I am not very well acquainted with the place.

Q. This was about nine o'clock at night? - It was.

Q. Did you wish them good night? - I did.

Q. Or did you shew an inclination to leave them? - I wished them a good night.

Q. Did the other offer to meddle with you? - Not that I can tell, because I was so stunned by the blow.

Q. Did she lay hold of your watch? - She laid hold of the chain; I had the watch in my hand; she had got the watch out of my pocket, and she was behind me struggling with me at the time, and the other was the woman attacking me.

Q. Just now you swore that the man and the other woman did not meddle with you at all. How happened you to swear that positively? - The man did not to my knowledge, I can safely say that; but I think the other woman was attacking me as well as this woman.

Q. I want to know how this woman could have hold of your watch, and which was in your hand, and yet she got behind you, and knocked you down, she and you had never been any where together? - No, I never meant to give her any more than a pot of beer. I am a married man, and have a wife and children; I only went and treated them with a pot of beer, and no more.


Last Friday it wanted about twenty minutes to nine o'clock, I saw the prisoner at the bar, and the prosecutor, and another woman and a soldier in Hyde Park, within about sixty or seventy yards from the Serpentine River, and I saw the woman with him, and I saw the man down and his hat was some distance from him, and I told a man who was standing by to run to his assistance, for I thought the women had robbed him, because I saw the man down, and the women about him; the other woman got away some where or other, but I pursued this woman to the Gravel Pits, and I found her with this watch, I took her to the watch-house; I have had the watch in my custody ever since.

Q. Did you see how the man came down, whether he was knocked down or pushed down? - He was down when I first saw him. I pursued the woman, and then I brought the woman back to him; he then said he had been robbed of his watch.

Q. Can you tell us whether he was drunk or sober? - He appeared to havebeen drinking, but he was sensible; I believe he might be in liquor. (The watch produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. I and another girl was coming across the Park, we met this gentleman, and he asked us to go and have a pot or two of beer; we went and partook of two pots of beer, and when we came back again it was about half past nine; we were drinking along with three soldiers, we sat down and drank with him a little, and we all came out together, and going along the Park he pulled the watch out of his pocket, for the soldier to see what it was o'clock, and when we came down to the Serpentine River he told the other girl he would give her and I a shilling a piece, and he put down his watch, and I took it up, and took it to one of the Gravel Pits.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

545. PETER CONNOLLY otherwise CRONNOLLY was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of June , a wooden mahogany table, value 1 l. the goods of John Clarke .


On the 24th of June last I lost a dining table, a three feet best mahogany dining table; it was at half past eight in the morning.

Q. Where had it been before you missed it? - Outside of the street door. I am a cabinet maker and upholsterer; my servant set it up about seven o'clock in the morning; I had seen it ten minutes or a quarter of an hour before it was lost. At about half past eight in the morning, my family and I were sitting in a back parlour at breakfast, my next door neighbour, who is a baker, Mr. Giles, came running in, says he, Mr. Clarke, I am afraid you have lost a dining table, because there is a fellow turned my corner with a table, and I am sure it is not his own, and I really think it is one of your's; I immediately jumped up and ran to the corner, and a thought struck me, if he was a thief he had taken the court, I took the court which is only two doors up, and ran the length of that court, it is called Nottingham-court, when I got up there I looked each way in Bedford-street, and I saw him with the table, going towards St. Giles's, immediately as I set my eyes on him he turned the corner to a bye way; I followed close up to him, but instead of him turning the common passage, he went through several narrow passages, that I should not have supposed he could have got through with the table; I thought I would not attack him there, because there was no assistance; I knew he must come into Holborn soon, and then I stopped him; the prisoner is the man, I am quite certain.

Q. Did you know him before? - Never see him to my knowledge; I have no doubt about him. When I stopped him I went before him, and told him to put that he had down; he said he should not; I told him I would make him; he said what do you mean by that. He then put it down, and flew from me down the passage; I ran down the passage after him, and laid hold of him, and I told him, it is in vain for you to attempt to go, for I will hang by you as long as I live; accordingly I brought him out of the passage, he attempted to go again from me, he came and stood then on the pavement, by that time my youngest son had come up to my assistance; I bid him ran for my neighbour Robinson the constable; immediately as I said that a person speaks up, I belong to Marlborough-street, and I am an officer there, and if you please I will take the prisoner;says I, I am very glad of it, for I really want somebody to take him, he did take him, and he got away once from him, I see him, for I helped to take him again; he was taken again, and carried to St. Giles's watch-house; and I met him at one o'clock at Marlborough-street directly that afternoon, which was only yesterday; the magistrate ordered me to prosecute. The table is here. (Produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. I was looking for work, and I met a gentleman who employed me to carry the table down to Shoe-lane, to the Red Hart, it was a gentleman as I met, as I was looking for a job.

Court to Clarke. What is the value of your table? - Twenty shillings.

GUILTY . (Aged 23.)

Imprisoned six months in the house of Correction and Publickly Whipped

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

Prisoner. I would be glad to go and serve my king; I am a carpenter by trade.

546. JAMES WETHEY was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of June , a man's saddle, value 16 s. the goods of Mary Steele .

- HIND sworn.

I am a servant to Mary Steele ; she keeps a livery stable , she lost a man's saddle; I did not see the prisoner take it, I took the saddle from the horse's back myself, and I hung it up in the place where I usually do; it was lost on Thursday night, the 13th of this month; it was between that and Friday I missed it; on Friday the next morning; I went to the stable about half after four, and missed it, and I saw it again in about two hours, it was in Sprigg's hands, an officer; the saddle is here.

Prisoner. He said at the justices that he left it out till such a time in the morning.


The prisoner at the bar was brought to the watch-house, seemingly very much in liquor, about half after four on Thursday morning, it was when the Wednesday night was over; the man has made mistake as to the day; there was nothing brought with him but this tinder box; he was brought into the watch-house assisted by two or three watchmen, there was nothing against him at that time; he remained in the watch-house till about four o'clock, our watch was very near coming in then; we told him to withdraw, we thought he might be tolerably sober by that time; I went out to see after the watchmen whether they were doing their duty, and I met the prisoner coming up Bedford-row with the saddle on his back, I went up to him, and I said to him, my friend what do you do with that saddle on your back? how came you by it? says he, what is that to you? I said, it is to me; says I, how did you come by it? says he, you may take the saddle; says I, I shall take the saddle and you too; with that I took him to the watch-house, both him and saddle, and I sent to Mrs. Steele's yard, who keeps a livery stable the top of Bedford-row, and the last witness came and said it was the property of Mrs. Steele; he came much about five o'clock. I have had it in my possession ever since. The hostler brought it here this morning; I gave it him this morning, but I kept it till then. (The saddle produced and deposed to by Hind.)

Hind. I know it is Mrs. Steele's property; I know it by the button of the saddle, it is a very broad large button; wehave had it about a year and half; I am quite sure of it.

Court. When you went back did you find such a saddle was missing before you was sent for? - I found this saddle was missing before I was sent for.

Q. What is you mistress's christian name? - Mary. It was taken out of the yard.

Q. Was the yard or any part broke? - It was open that time of the morning; there were carriages come in just before.

Prisoner. The thing was, I was very much tipsey that night; I saw that saddle lay down by the wall, and I took it up, and I did intend to carry it to the watch-house, but before that, this man met me, and I thought as he had took care of me he might take care of the saddle. As to that thing the tinder box, he need not have brought it, that I had for the convenience of getting a light.

Court to Spriggs. Was he drunk when you met him? - He was very much drunk at half past twelve, but he was sober then.

Q. Did he give any account but what you have mentioned? - No, he told me I might take the saddle; I told him I should take the saddle and him.

GUILTY . (Aged 45.)

Imprisoned six months in the House of Correction and Publickly Whipped .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

547. JOHN JONES was indicted for that he on the 25th of June , with a certain offensive weapon and instrument, called a pistol, unlawfully, maliciously, and feloniously did make an assault on John Hurnall , with intent, feloniously, maliciously, and unlawfully, the goods, chattles and monies of the said John Hurnall , to steal .


I have a house in Somer's Town; I am a wine merchant . On Monday night last, I was coming from Tottenham, down the New Road to Somer's Town, which is not above a quarter of a mile; at that time towards Tottenham, there was a watch box, and being so late I was intimidated, and spoke to the watchman, and talked to him, to see whether he was on his duty.

Q. Was you sober? - I was. After that I passed him, and went about two, or three hundred yards or four hundred, I cannot exactly say the distance; but as I was coming along the prisoner at the bar was coming towards me, and I was intimidated at seeing him come towards me, but I recollected that the watchman behind me was so near, and he was on his duty, that I passed him with confidence; the prisoner past me, and he had just past me about a yard, he then turned about, and put a pistol to my breast, and said your watch and money directly, and made use of no bad expressions.

Q. How did he hold this pistol? - He turned it on me.

Q. In which hand did he hold this pistol? - The right. On which knowing the watchman was just behind, and it may be thinking he was rather nearer me than he was, I sprung back from him, and ran to the watchman, crying out thieves! thieves! watch! watch! I lost sight of him then, he ran away; I saw him about an hour after in the second field, in the New Road; I was over in the field to search for him, and four or five more of Mr. Wright's officers with me.

Q. What time did this happen to you? - Near one o'clock on Tuesday morning.

Q. Where did you find him? - Two or three of these people brought him up to me; I had been hunting for him along with other people for half an hour.

Q. Did you know him again? - I did.

Q. Was he drest in the same way as he was before? - He was.

Q. Now as to seeing this man at the time he attacked you in this way, was it moon light, or what sort of light was it? - It was between light and dark.

Q. Was there any lamp there? - No, It was so light it did not need a lamp.

Q. What sort of hat had he on? - I think a cocked hat, but I will not be sure.

Q. What sort of clothes? what colour? - Black, the same as he has on now. The barrel of the pistol struck my eyes, as being bright, it was not an iron one.

Q. As to his hair, how was his hair? - I have no doubt of the man.

Q. You are an honest man and ought to be cautious how you swear. Do you mean coolly and deliberately to say, that he was the man? - I am sorry to say that, I am obliged so to do.

Q. What passed when you took him again? - I believe he might say I am not the man, or was it me? or words to that purpose.

Q. What did you say to that? - I said he was.

Prisoner. At the time I was taken how far was it from where was apprehended and detained by the officers, from the place where he was attempted to be robbed? - I was robbed in the road, and where he was taken by the officers I cannot tell; the officers brought him to me, the second field distant from where I was robbed, not half a quarter of a mile, or a tenth part distant. The man behaved exceeding well, he made use of no bad expressions.


I am a watchman. Mr. Hurnall came by my box between twelve and one, I had just gone the half hour; it was neither light nor dark; I could see a great way down the road, because it is a straight road; he past by my box and spake to me; about five or six or seven minutes after he ran back, and said, watch! watch! here is a man going to rob me.

Q. Did you see any man with him at the time? - I did not see any man with him; I saw a man just before him; he ran across the field, and I followed him, I ran as soon as I was spoke to by Mr. Hurnall; I followed him over two fields, then I lost sight of him among some cows; as near as I can possibly tell in the night, he was dressed in black clothes.

Q. Did you see him again that night? - I saw him in the watch-house.

Q. Could you say that was the same man that you had followed? - The runners brought him to me before that about a quarter of an hour after I lost sight of him, they brought him along side of my watch box in the field.

Q. Did you know him to be the man that you saw before with the prosecutor? - I could not swear to the man, only he had the same clothes.

Q. Did the prosecutor come up at the time he was in the hands of the runners? - He came up with some of the runners.

Q. What did Mr. Hurnall say? - He said he was the man that put the pistol up to his breast; the man cursed and swore all the way down to the watch-house, he said he knew nothing at all about it.

Prisoner. Ask him did he know my person? - To the best of my remembrance by the clothes, the size, and the make of the person, you are the person.

Q. Can you swear to me? - I cannot swear to you, because I did not see your face.


I am a mason; I am none of the runners; I live near the spot, and I happened to be up at that time in the morning; I heard the cry of murder! murder! and the prisoner at the bar ran across the fields, and I ran after him.

Q. How near was Mr. Hurnall and the prisoner to you when he cried out thieves? - Between two and three hundred yards as near as I can guess; the prisoner was about the same distance running from him in the fields.

Q. How was the man dressed? - I really cannot tell at that time of night; he had dark clothes on; that is all I can say.

Q. Did you lose sight of him? - I pursued him till he got into that field among the cows, and there I lost sight of him, and the patroles took him coming back.

Q. How soon after did you see him with the patroles? - In the space of twenty minutes, or a quarter of an hour.

Q. Did you see his face at all? - Not until he was brought to the watch-house.

Q. Do you believe he is the same man? - I cannot say, I was not near him till he was brought to me; I see a man, but whether that is the man I cannot say, I believe him to be the same man, being nearly about the size and dress.


I am one of the patroles; I belong to Bow-street. About one o'clock on Tuesday morning, the 25th, being at the Duke of Bolton's Head, we heard the cry of stop thief! we turned to the fields back again, and saw a man running; I pursued after him; he got over the rails into the Duke of Bedford's private road; I never lost sight of him; the prisoner is the man, and he was taken; when we had taken him, we took him back towards where the alarm came from; he said he came out of a house, in which house he had been drinking with another; we asked him if he would shew us the house? we carried him to the second field from where I took him from, and there we found Mr. Hurnall, and Mr. Shallard, and some more, hunting all about the ditches to see to find the man; the instant Mr. Hurnall see him, he said that is the man that robbed me.

Prisoner. At what distanace was it from where the gentleman was robbed you took me? - About nine hundred yards.

Prisoner. When I met him I was turning out of the path into the road, and this man fell down. - I jumped over the rail after the man, and I fell down by accident.

Prisoner. I could wish you to call the other witnesses in, the gentleman in the blue coat.


I am a Patrole.

Q. Did you see Mr. Hurnall robbed? - I did not; I heard the alarm, I saw the prisoner run, and I pursued him.

Q. Did you lose sight of him? - Not till after I saw him run; the prisoner was nearly at the Duke of Bolton's, where he was apprehended.

Prisoner. At the time you stopped me on the road, was not that last gentleman drunk? - You two fell together when I came up to you.

Q. Did not I stop to see him picked up? - You two were very close.

Court. Was the other man on the ground? - I don't know that I see him on the ground at all.

Prisoner. How far distant was this from the place where the gentleman was robbed? - About half a quarter of a mile.

Prisoner. The other has said nine hundred yards, which is three quarters of a mile, upon my soul it is unaccountable.

Prisoner. I was passing along the road; I had been drinking; they took me into custody, and they detained me, asked me where I was going? and where I had been? and were taking me to a place where I had been in, and passing along we were met with this prosecutor of mine, and he said, that I was the man that robbed him: I declare my innocence; I know nothing about it. I have no witnesses, I was brought up to trial so suddenly I have none at present; had it been a future day I might have got some.

GUILTY . (Aged 30.)

Transported for seven years

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.