CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT
FIRST SESSION, HELD NOVEMBER 18TH, 1901.
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Held on Monday, November 18th, 1901, and following days,
Before the Eight Hon. SIR JOSEPH COCKFIELD DIMSDALE, Knt., M.P., ALDERMAN, LORD MAYOR of the City of London; the Hon. Sir EDWARD RIDLEY, one of the Justices of His Majesty's High Court; Sir JOSEPH SAVORY, Bart., M.P.; and Sir GEORGE F. FAUDELPHILLIPS, Bart., G.C.I.E., Aldermen of the said City; Sir FOREST FULTON, Knt., K.C., Recorder of the said City; Sir MARCUS SAMUEL, Knt; WILLIAM PURIDE TRELOAR, Esq.; THOMAS VEZEY STRONG, Esq.; and HOWARD CARLISLE MORRIS, Esq., other of the Aldermen of the said City; ALBERT FREDERICK BOSANQUET, Esq., K.C., Common Serjeant of the said City; and LUMLEY SMITH, Esq., K.C., Judge of the City of London Court; His Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer, and General Gaol Delivery, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.
HORACE BROOKS MARSHALL, Esq., M.A., J.P.
JOSEPH DAVID LANGTON, Esq.
FRANCIS ROBERT MIDDLETON PHILLIPS, Esq.
CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.
DIMSDALE, MAYOR. FIRST SESSION.
A star (*) denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars (**) that they have been more than once in custody—a dagger (†) that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment, denote the prisoner's age.
LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES.
OLD COURT.—Monday, November 18th, 1901.
Before Mr. Recorder.
1. WILLIAM EDWARD HERRON (23) PLEADED GUILTY to forging and uttering an order for the payment of ₤3, also to an order for the payment of ₤2 10s., in each case with intent to defraud. Six months' hard labour.
(2) CHRISTOPHER KLYDE PULLEN (30) , to forging and uttering a banker's cheque for the payment of ₤200, also to obtaining by false pretences from Hubert Jordan, ₤15; from Gerald Clark, 5s. and 2s. 6d.; and from Frances Hawkes Lynn, ₤5; in each case with intent to defraud, having been connoted at this Court on June 20th, 1898. Four other convictions were proved against him. Five years' penal servitude. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]
(3) EDWARD COCKS and HAROLD MARSH to forging and uttering an order for the payment of ₤4 4s., also an order for the payment of ₤5 5s., also an order for the payment of ₤6 6s., also an order for ₤4 4s., also an order for the payment of ₤3 3s., also to conspiring to obtain money from Charles Camp, William Henry Abery, and James Cox, by false pretences, with intent to defraud. COCKS also pleaded guilty to stealing various articles the property of Emma Leycox, and receiving the same knowing them to have been stolen. COCKS,** † eighteen months' hard labour; MARSH, fifteen months' hard labour. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]
(4) JAMES ALLEN (29) to stealing ₤20 and ₤20 the monies of John Alfred Haley and others, his masters. Also to falsifying certain papers and accounts belonging to his said masters with intent to defraud. Having been convicted at Manchester on August 26th, 1898, twelve months' hard labour; and [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]
(5) CHARLES WARDLOW FARROW (24) to stealing a Gladstone bag the property of Sidney Francis Staples; also a portmanteau and other articles the property of the Midland Railway Company; also a bag and other articles the property of the London and North Western Railway Company; also a portmanteau and other goods the property of the Great Northern Railway Company. He received a good character. Nine months' in the second division. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]
MR. HARRISON Prosecuted.
ELLA TARRANT . I am a barmaid at the "Crooked Billet," Crooked Lane—on Sunday, November 3rd, I was in Middlesex Street, about 12 a.m.—my purse was in my dress pocket. I felt a hand in my pocket. I turned round and saw two men, one of them was the prisoner—I cannot say which of the men had his hand in my pocket—the prisoner was nearest to me. This (Produced) is the purse.
Cross-examined by the Prisoner. I was too nervous to accuse you—there was 1s. 2 1/2 d., some trinkets, and my address in my purse—everything is in it now.
HENRY BOARD (City Detective).On November 3rd I was in Middlesex Street about 12.15 p.m. I saw the prisoner and another man pushing amongst the crowd in rather a suspicious manner—I watched them for about fifteen minutes—they got behind the prosecutrix who was with a gentleman. The man not in custody put his hand into the prosecutrix's dress pocket, withdrew her purse, turned to the prisoner, who was covering his movements as much as possible, and passed the purse to him. The prisoner put it in his pocket and put a handkerchief in on top of it—I followed them—the man not in custody saw me and said something to the prisoner, and they separated. I followed the prisoner and told him I should take him into custody for stealing a lady's purse. He said "I have stole no purse." I said "It is in your pocket," and it was found on him. He refused his name and address. It contained 1s. and some coppers.
Cross-examined. The other man was nearest the lady.
The prisoner in his defence on oath, said that he was with another man whose name he did not know. That he did not steal the purse, that the other man must have put it in his (the prisoner's) pocket, as he did not know it was there till the officer told him so, and that he did not put his handkerchief on top of it. GUILTY .—He then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction of felony at Clerkenwell on December 20th, 1898, as Albert Reed, and four other convictions were proved against him.— Eighteen months' hard labour.
7. GEORGE PALMER (42) and ADA PALMER (40) Breaking and entering the dwelling house of Percy Hamilton Hughes, and stealing a gold watch and other articles. Second Count.Receiving the same knowing it to be stolen. GEORGE PALMER PLEADED GUILTY .
MR. HARDY Prosecuted.
PERCY HAMILTON HUGHES . I am a stock broker of Cowper Terrace, Acton Vale—my house was broken into about October 6th. I cannot quite remember the date. I missed a brooch with moonstones in it, my wife's watch, a ruby ring, a gold pencil case, a silver cross, and numerous other articles, value ₤45. These are some of the articles (Produced).
officer, where I found the female prisoner. I searched the place and found the property which has been identified, she was wearing the gold watch and I found the silver pencil case in her box. She said she had had it for a long time. The pencil case was attached to the watch which she said was her own.
Cross-examined by ADA PALMER. I do not think you said that the things had been given to you by your husband.
By the COURT. The male prisoner has done no work so far as I can find out, he states that he is a dealer.
Ada Palmer's statement before the Magistrate. "I am innocent, I know nothing about it."
Ada Palmer in her defence said that the things were given to her by the male prisoner, who was not her husband, although they had lived together for fourteen years. ADA PALMER.
NOT GUILTY .
No evidence was offered against Ada Palmer.
NOT GUILTY .
NEW COURT.—Monday, November 18th, 1901.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant.
9. RICHARD DIXON (25) and SIDNEY WRIGHT (23) pleaded guilty to breaking and entering the dwelling house of Josephine Bourbon, and stealing two umbrellas and a rosary her property, also to breaking and entering the dwelling house of Catherine Thompson and stealing a copying press and other articles her property, also to burglary in the dwelling house of Marian Crawley and stealing ten fish knives and forks and other articles her property, Wright having been convicted at Westminster on March 5th, 1901. Six other convictions were proved against Wright and two against Dixon. DIXON Three years' penal servitude, WRIGHT Four years' penal servitude. —And
(10) JOHN STRANGE alias Beckett (30) to unlawfully having in his possession medals resembling sovereigns with intent to utter them. He received an excellent character. Discharged on recognizances. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]
For other cases tried this day see Surrey eases.
OLD COURT.—Tuesday, November 19th, 1901.
Before Mr. Recorder.
11. CHARLES JOHN MILLS (28) and ADA JANE MILLS (26) PLEADED GUILTY to stealing a bag and other articles the property of William Clapham. Charles Mills having been convicted of obtaining goods by false pretences on May 10th, 1899, eighteen months' hard labour. Ada Mills twelve months' hard labour.
(12) BENJAMIN SHIRLEY PULLIN (51) to stealing a type-writer the property of Messrs. Wyckoff Seamens and Benidict. He received a good character. Discharged on his own recognizances, and [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]
(13) WALTER MARSTON (25) to stealing four postal orders for ₤1 each the property of the Lords of the Admiralty his masters, also to forging and uttering an order for the payment of 20s. and 20s. and receipts for the same sums. He received a good character. Twelve months' hard labour. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]
NEW COURT.—Tuesday, November 19th,1901.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant.
MR. PARTRIDGE Prosecuted.
WILLIAM GILKS . I am a newsvendor of 169, Morning Lane, Hackney, Between 2 and 3 p.m. on November 1st, the prisoner came into my shop for a penny packet of cigarettes and tendered this counterfeit florin (Produced)—I told him it was bad and that he had better be careful as it might get him into trouble—I afterwards informed a constable.
FLORENCE RUNACRES . I am barmaid at the Lamb and Flag public house, High Street, Homerton—on November 1st, the prisoner came in for half a pint of four ale in a can and put this counterfeit florin (Produced) on the counter—I told him it was bad—a constable came in and arrested him—I told the constable that he had given me a bad florin, and he said he had it in his possession and had got to change it.
DENNIS DREW (113). On November 1st Gilks pointed out the prisoner to me.—I followed him to the Lamb and Flag public house.—I asked the barmaid what the boy had given her—she said "A bad florin." I took him into custody for trying to pass a counterfeit florin.—He said "What have I got to do with it; it was given to me; have I got to be the loser of it?"—at the station when charged he said "If you were in plain clothes you would change one"—I searched him and found 6d. in silver and 4 1/2 d. in bronze good money.
Prisoner's Defence. The witnesses have not spoken the truth—I got it from a gentleman in payment for a newspaper which I sold him.
GUILTY .—Several convictions were proved against him. Four months' hard labour
MR. PARTRIDGE Prosecuted.
Cross-examined by Bailey.I do not know how many weeks you lived
there—it is down in the book—I have never seen you making counterfeit coin.
By the COURT. They were living under the name of Mr. and Mrs. Bailey as man and wife.
HENRY GARRETT . I am a grocer's assistant at the London and County Stores, 475, King's Road, Chelsea—on October 12th the female prisoner came there for two pennyworth of firewood, and tendered this bad shilling (Produced), which I broke in pieces and, retained—on October 19th she came again for another two pennyworth of firewood and tendered another bad shilling—I put it on one side and she left the shop, and I went after her and fetched her back, and got a constable
FREDERICK SCRIBBENS (192 B). Garrett called me to the London and County Stores, where I saw the female prisoner—Garrett handed me the coin, I asked her how she came by it—She said "I do not know, I had it in change for a half-sovereign at a shop in Flood Street"—Garrett said that she was the same woman that gave him a bad shilling on the previous occasion; she made no reply—I asked for her purse, which she gave me, and I found two good sixpences in it—on the way to the station she said "Let me go and tell my husband, we have only been married a few weeks"—I told her her husband would be informed, and in answer to the charge she said "Yes."
JOHN REED (Detective Sergeant B). I saw the female prisoner at the station, and asked her how she became possessed of the shilling; she said "A friend of my husband's stopped me in the street and gave it to me"—she immediately afterwards said "My husband gave it to me"—I asked her where she lived, she said "30, Cremorne Road, down in the area"—I asked her what sort of man her husband was in appearance—she said "A man your own build, no moustache, and he has a bad foot"—I at once went to 30, Cremorne Road but found that no person named Bailey lived there—I then went to Selwyn House opposite, and into the first room on the left of the passage—I there saw Bailey, and said, "I am a Police officer, your wife is detained at Chelsea Police Station for having uttered a counterfeit shilling, which she says you gave her"—he said: "That is quite right; I sent her out for a chop"—I said, "How did it come into your possession?"—he said, "I must have got it in some change"—I asked to look at his other money; he said that he had none—in a cupboard near the window I found a ladle containing a quantity of white metal.—I said to him, "What is this?"—he said, "Oh, that's nothing." I said, "I now suspect you to be engaged in the manufacture of counterfeit coin, and I will search the room"—he said, "You will find nothing"—in a drawer in the washstand I found this battery (Produced), which is complete; also two moulds, some quicksilver, and various other articles in various parts of the room—I told him I should take him into custody for having in his possession implements for the manufacture of counterfeit coin—he said, "Very well; she is quite innocent"—they were charged together at the station, and Bailey said to Clements, "I will get you out of it, Liz."—Clements made no reply.
Cross-examined by Bailey. I found a jar in the washstand drawer.
WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER. I am an inspector of coin to His Majesty's
Mint—I examined the articles produced by Sergt. Reed—amongst them is a double mould impressed with a florin and a shilling—the two counterfeit shillings produced were made from this mould, and all the articles produced form part of the paraphanalia of a coiner.
GUILTY .—Several previous convictions were proved against BAILEY. Five years' penal servitude. CLEMENTS— Three months' hard labour.
MR. WILKINSON Prosecuted.
JOHN GRINNANOW . I am a son of the landlord of the White Horse public house, Eyre Street, Bethnal Green, and assist in the management of the business—at 8.40 p.m. on October 12th, a boy came into the bar and asked for change for this bad half-crown—I asked where he got it—he said that his father gate it to him—I put it on the shelf and told him to fetch his father, and he shortly afterwards came back with the prisoner—I told the prisoner it was bad; he said that he knew where he got it and would take it back and see if he could get another for it—he was afterwards brought back by a constable.
Cross-examined by the Prisoner. I did not put your coin among other money and exchange it—I tested it with acid in your presence, and gave it back to you.
ROSETTA SMITH . I live at 31, Bacon Street, Bethnal Green, and keep a general shop there—about 8.40 p.m. on October 12th, the prisoner and a little boy came in—the boy asked for a Guy face, the price of which was twopence—the prisoner put down this bad half-crown produced, in payment, and I gave him 2s. 4d. change—a man came in and said something to me, and I looked at the coin and found it was bad, I went after the prisoner and said, "Give me back my change; you have given me a bad half-crown"—he said "No, I will not give it to you, it is not bad"—a policeman came up—I gave him the coin, and we all went to the White Horse, where Mr. Grinnanow recognised him as the man who had uttered the same coin to him.
Cross-examined. Your hands were not being held when I asked you for my change.
THOMAS WOODARD . I live at 62, Curwell Street, Bethnal Green—at 8.40 p.m., on October 12th, I was in the bar of the White Horse—the prisoner came in and was told by Mr. Grinnanow that the coin he had sent the boy with was bad, and handed it to him—the prisoner left with the coin and said he would take it back to where he got it from—I followed him and saw him go into Mrs. Smith's shop—when he came out I went in and spoke to Mrs. Smith, and we both went after him and stopped him—I held him till a constable came—I think he had had a little too much to drink, but he knew what he was about.
WILLIAM JOHNSON (285 H.) On October 12th I was called and found the prisoner detained—Mrs. Smith handed me a coin and said the prisoner had purchased a Guy face with it and that it was bad—I searched him and found two separate shillings, seven pennies, and two half-pennies, all good money—I took him to the White Horse, where he was identified by Mr. Grinnanow, and then to the police station, where he was charged.
The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate. "I wanted something to eat. I went to a coffee shop and had something. A boy there changed me half a sovereign. I paid for my food and went out, and then met my pal and went and paid for my lodging, and then I went and had a drink with my pal and got half intoxicated. I went upstairs in my lodging and asked my landlady if she would like a drink, and if so I would send for a pot of beer. I took out half a crown and gave it to the boy to fetch the beer; be returned and said the half-crown was no good. I went and asked the matter, and the barman said it was no good and asked me where I got it from; I told him in a coffee shop in Slater Street; he advised me to take it back and get my right money. I did not go, as I was positive it was a good one. The boy I was with said, 'Come, let us try here whether it is good or bad; we will soon find out and purchase something for me, we will purchase "Kruger's face."' I asked for the face, which was given to me. I placed the half-crown on the counter and she gave me change."
The prisoner received a good character.
NOT GUILTY .
18. HUGH MORDAUNT (26) and EDWARD LYNCH BLOSSE (41), PLEADED GUILTY to obtaining ₤5 by false pretences from William Hustler Hopkins; also to attempting to obtain ₤50 by false pretences from the same person; Mordaunt also to stealing a minute book and a bank pass book the goods of the Great Northern Railway Company . Blosse having been convicted at the North London Sessions in 1900 of misdemeanour, and Mordaunt at the North London Sessions on November 20th, 1900, of felony. Previous convictions were proved against them—MORDAUNT, Fifteen months' hard labour; BLOSSE, Six months' hard labour.
THIRD COURT.—Tuesday, November 19th, 1901.
Before Mr. Commissioner L. Smithy K.C.
19. ARTHUR BRANSTEAD (27) PLEADED GUILTY to stealing an overcoat and other goods belonging to William Edward Case from the ship Himalaya while in the Albert Dock, and to a conviction of felony at Clerkenwell on November 20th, 1900. Eight months' hard labour. —
(21) LAWRENCE JOSEPH MALONET (20) to obtaining from William David Stone and others, seven parcels of merino with intent to defraud, and to a conviction of felony at Clerkenwell in September, 1900. Three other convictions were proved against him. Three years' penal servitude.—And [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]
MR. MOORE Prosecuted, MR. BURNIE Defended Oxtoby.
November 9th, about 8 p.m., I went into the "Blue Post" public house, West India Dock Road—Oxtoby, and another man and a woman were there—the woman asked me to treat her—I did so—I cannot say that Knight is the same woman—her dress was different—I picked her out on Sunday, November 10th, at the Police Court—as I left the public house they followed me in the street—I was knocked down from behind and became senseless for three or four minutes—two men held me—I was knocked down a second time and my waistcoat pockets were rifled of ₤2—I had changed a note and the change was in my trousers pocket, they could not get that out—I called for a policeman and went with a witness and a constable to the station and gave an account of the affair—could not pick out Oxtoby at the Police Court—he was in the public house, and when I left he came behind me.
Cross-examined by MR. BURNIE. There were only two men and a woman in the middle bar—there were people in the other bars—I was there about a quarter of an hour.
Cross-examined by Knight. I cannot swear you had a drink in my company—I asked you if you were the woman in my company on the Saturday night, and you said "No"—I said "I am not sure" and walked away.
Re-examined. I recognised the woman by her voice, although dressed differently—she had a straw hat on and a shawl over her shoulders.
HENRY GILES . I am a tank maker—I was in Grenade Street on November 9th, about 8 p.m.—I heard shouts of "Police, police, help!"—I went across the road, and saw two men holding the prosecutor—a woman was there—they hit him, and he fell senseless. I ran and fetched a constable—I identified Oxtoby on the Sunday morning as one of the men who struck the prosecutor.
Cross-examined by MR. BURNIE: There is an iron foundry there, but no light—I saw Oxtoby's face when he was holding the prosecutor.
Cross-examined by Knight. You are not the woman.
ARTHUR FLEMING: I was barman at the Blue Post on November 9th—about 8 p.m. the prisoners were in the bar—the prosecutor came in while they were there—Knight asked him if he would treat her—he said, "Yes, I will give you a glass of ale," and ordered it—another young fellow was there—I knew him, but had not seen Knight there before—the prosecutor went out, and Knight with him—Oxtoby and the other man followed—Knight wore a black hat and a brown shawl—the bar was well lit.
Cross-examined by MR. BURNIE. I saw Costello at the police court—not before—there are five bars—people were in them—others were serving.
Cross-examined by Knight. I believe you had a brown shawl with red stripes on it—it was picked up by the police—it was similar to this (Produced)—I cannot say definitely that this is it—I did not say at the Police Court that it was.
persons in robbing a man in Great Lime Street—he said that he did not do it—the Rose and Crown is about a mile from the Blue Post—I found on searching him 6s. in silver, 9 1/2 d. in bronze, a purse and a knife.
Cross-examined by Knight. I know you by sight—I was not at the robbery.
Re-examined. The Blue Post is about a mile from Water Street.
ERNEST RENACRE (K 265). On the evening of November 9th I was near the Blue Post public house—I heard a cry of "Police" and "Help," and went down Grenade Street—I saw the prosecutor lying down and two men and Knight running away—I was about 300 yards off—I passed Knight who dropped this shawl—I picked it up—On November 11th, I picked out Knight as the woman who was running away.
Cross-examined by Knight. I was not looking through the window when the women were put up for identification—you were amongst nine women—I did not see you brought out of the cells.
HENRY TAYLOR (K 189). I arrested Knight on Monday, November 11th, in the East India Dock Road—she was taken to the station and placed with nine others, identified by Fleming and the constable and then charged—I have known her about eight years—after she was charged she said to Fleming "Are you sure?" He said "Yes."
Cross-examined by Knight. You were told the time it occurred—I told you I should take you to the station on suspicion of being concerned with Robert Oxtoby who was then charged—you said that you were at the Lord Mayor's Show, not that you had gone to Aldgate.
Oxtoby in his defence on oath said that he knew nothing of the robbery, and that he was with Costello.
Evidence for Oxtoby.
JAMES COSTELLO . I am a labourer, of 69, Cotton Street, Poplar—on November 9th I met Oxtoby in King Street not far from his own place about 7 p.m.—we went into the Blue Post, the third bar from the saloon bar—we stopped between 10 minutes and a quarter of an hour—I came out with him, he was supposed to go home, I went to the urinal and then to our governor Mr. Leverston the tailor—I do a bit of business with him in carrying baggage—no one was in the bar with us—I saw Oxtoby between 9 and 9.30 the same evening—we went into the same house.
Cross-examined. I know Clarke as Willie the bar-boy—I can prove I was there by the governor and the manager,—and the barman who is outside served me; only stevedores and labourers were there—we use the house as a club—I never saw the prosecutor till I saw him before the Magistrate—I have been convicted times too numerous to mention of everything, including murder, but that has nothing to do with this trial and I am not a slave if I defend myself and beat a man.
Evidence for Knight.
JOHN KNIGHT . I am a costermonger—on Saturday afternoon, November 9th, I left home about 2 o'clock and returned about 6.30 or 6.45—my wife was at home—we went out between 7.30 and 8 when my wife had dressed—we went to Devon's Road, Bow, and had a drink with a young oman in the Rose and Crown public
house—we returned home between 9.30 and 10 o'clock—this is the shawl my wife was wearing; she has had it 4 years—I know the woman who committed the robbery and have her name and address in my pocket.
Cross-examined. I have been costering for the last month—I have been unfortunate, but found it did not pay, so turned to honest living—I have been convicted a number of times, but never of robbery with violence, and only once for larceny when I was taken for another man as this man is, and they swore my life away—I fix the time by putting my donkey up between 6 and 7 o'clock—I stable it about 10 minutes' walk away—that took about half an hour—I looked at the clock when I went out about 8.15—I went to Devon's Road two miles from the Blue Post—I have been in the Blue Post with my wife, but not on November 9th—I believe she went to the Lord Mayor's show after 3 o'clock—she wore a cape when she returned home which she changed and put this shawl on, to go marketing.
MARY ANN PRIM . Knight lives next door to me—on Saturday November 9th, she was at home all day—she was cleaning the same as myself—she went out about 5 p.m.—I was at my door when she gave my little girl a doll—afterwards she asked me if her husband had been home—I said no, I had not seen him—she said "Well, I will go in, light my fire, and get his tea ready"—I saw her between 9 and 10 p.m. in Devon's Road with her husband.
Cross-examined. I was at the Police Court—I did not hear Knight give her evidence—she did not go to the Lord Mayor's show.
Cross-examined. I had seen Knight about 3 p.m. and a little after 8 when I wanted to know about some fish, and she was indoors—I buy fish of them—the Magistrate asked me the last time I saw her—we can see her from our back window; they live just round the corner—I saw her in and out of her house a little after 8, not at 9, I did not go to market till 9—it was not at 7.
EDWARD SMITH . I am part proprietor and manager of the Blue Post—neither Oxtoby nor the prosecutor were in my house after 9 o'clock together when I was in the bar—the prosecutor came and complained of what had happened.
By MR. BURNIE. There are six bars—the house was very quiet—very few were in it—two barmaids, a barman, and myself serve; I superintend—I did not go in and out of the bar when I came down—there is no bar parlour—I stopped till the closing.
Cross-examined. I heard of the robbery about 8 when Ummers came back—the other barmaid or the barman served him—a sailor, a woman, Oxtoby, and another man were there—Knight was not the woman—Oxtoby and Costello came in together first—Oxtoby went out and the other man afterwards—besides those was a man called a rigger; if four labourers came in they did not stay—when Costello and Oxtoby went out the bar was empty, with the exception of the woman and the sailor—
Oxtoby came back with another man before the robbery—the sailor and the woman went out together, and about 5 to 7 minutes elapsed before Oxtoby and the other man followed.
Knight in her defence on oath denied all knowledge of the robbery. NOT GUILTY . OXTOBY, GUILTY . A conviction, of felony at the Thames Police Court on June 22nd, 1901, was proved against him. Four months' hard labour.
24. EDWARD SWEENEY (40), CHARLES HASSANT (35), and JOHN DEARDS (30) , Stealing 115 cases of brandy, the property of the London, Brighton, and South Coast Railway Company; Second Count, Receiving the same. SWEENEY and DEARDS PLEADED GUILTY to receiving.
MR. ELLIOTT and MR. FITCH Prosecuted.
EDWIN CHARLES BOLTON . I live at St. Ives, Doris Park, Finchley—I am clerk to Messrs. G. and J. Porter, Continental carriers, Talk's Buildings, Great Tower Street—on October 11th I gave an order to the Brighton Railway Company for the delivery of 65 cases of brandy marked G in a diamond, and 1-65 and 50 cases marked B in a diamond, and 1621-70, the first consignment being to Grant & Co. of Mark Lane and the second to Ball & Co.—each case contained 12 bottles of Martell's brandy—the total value was ₤345.
FREDERICK WILSON . I live at 60, Willow Walk, Bermondsey—I am a checker to the London and Brighton Railway at Willow Walk—at 11 a.m. on October 15th I loaded Clifford's van with 115 cases of brandy—I produce delivery sheet—this is one of the cases, it is marked G in a diamond and 1-65.
JAMES WILLIAM IVORY . I am a carman to Messrs. Clifford's, of Rotherithe, carriers—at 11 a.m. on October 15th I received on my van from checker Wilson, 115 cases of brandy marked G and B in a diamond—I drove to Mark Lane, but the road was blocked through alterations, and I had to wait on Tower Hill by directions of the police—I went to Grant & Co. and arranged for delivery at 2.30—at 2.30 I returned and found the van, horses, and brandy, and the man I had entrusted them to, gone—I gave information to the police—I have not seen the man since.
EDWARD BURDON (Police Sergeant K).On October 16th I was with two other officers watching some stables at Park Lane, Stratford—about 7 p.m. I saw the prisoners with a coster's cart and a horse—the cart was loaded and covered with old sacking and tarpaulin—Hassant was leading the horse—Norris, another officer, asked Hassant what was in the cart—he said "Manure" and that he was going to take it to Stratford Station; but he was going from that direction—I pulled the tarpaulin on one side and saw the cases.
RICHARD NORRIS (Detective Sergeant K). I was with Burdon, and saw the cart and horse led by Hassant from Park Lane—I asked him what he had got on the cart—he said "Manure"—I asked him where he was going to take the cart to—he said "To Stratford Station"—on the top of the tarpaulin covering the cart was a dung-fork—we removed the
tarpaulin and saw some cases—we took the prisoners into custody—the name "Deards" was on the cart.
WILLIAM BROWN (Detective, K.) I was with Burdon and Norris, and assisted in arresting the prisoners—on the way to the station Hassant said, "We fell into this all right, I suppose we shall have to go through it. I am sorry I was leading the horse; I thought I was earning a few coppers."
Hassant's statement before the Magistrates. "I was only earning a shilling, and know nothing as to what the van contained. I had been working all day at the Great Eastern Railway for Deards."
Hassant in his defence repeated the above statement, and added that he told the police that he had been collecting manure that day.—HASSANT, NOT GUILTY —SWEENEY then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction of felony at this Court, in June, 1893, in the name of Thomas Connor, and two other convictions were proved against him; and DEARDS PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction of felony at the Royal Courts of Justice, in September, 1894. He was stated to be an associate of thieves. Three years' penal servitude each.
OLD COURT.—Wednesday, November 20th, 1901.
Before Mr. Justice Ridley.
MR. BODKIN Prosecuted.
The evidence is unfit for publication. GUILTY .— Five months' hard labour.
MR. HUTTON Prosecuted. GUILTY .— Seven years' penal servitude.
NEW COURT.—Wednesday & Thursday, November 20th & 21st, 1901.
Before Mr. Recorder.
MR. GILL, K.C., and MR. A. GILL Prosecuted, and MR. HEMERDE Defended.
JOHN (Lord) HOTHAM. I live at Beverley, and also at Half Moon Street—in May last I was at the Wellington Barracks when some soldiers were being drilled in the yard—a number of people were looking on, and among them the prisoner—he said to me, "You take a great interest in what is going on," I said yes—he said that he had been in the Army in Africa, that was a place I was interested in, having been out to South Africa myself—he said that he was a cousin of Lord Roberts, or Lord Wolseley, I forget which, but it was a Commander-in-Chief—he mentioned the names of other people of position, and referred to having property in Ireland—he said that his agent was ill and he could not get any rents—I said, "Being an Irishman myself, I should like to hear more of you, if you like to come down to me at 42, Half Moon Street, I shall be home at 9.30," but I gave no name—he came at 9.30, and after about half-an-hour's conversation he was going away and said, "I am going to ask you as a stranger what you may think a very queer thing" (he had told me that he had found my name in the Red Book; that shows 18 names at that address)—he said "Can you let me have ₤50," and produced this bill, "London, May, 1901, three months after date, pay me or my order, ₤50 for value received, Cadwallader Edwards"—it was crossed, and it is accepted by Percy Thellusson, but the acceptance was not on it then, nor any place where it was payable—I let him have the ₤50 in money, and he left taking the bill with him—he came again next day at 9.30, and was let in by the first footman—he stayed about half an hour conversing, and brought this bill as it now is—I did not notice that there was no place where it was payable—he said that his friend had made a foolish mistake by crossing it at the wrong place and that his agent, Mr. Hunter, in Ireland, was ill, and that he had property at Ballyhier in Wexford—I never saw him again—I wrote this letter (Dated, May 22nd, to the prisoner, stating that he would have to draw up another bill as it was so queerly backed and not dated or signed, and the bankers would object to it, but he would "hold up" the bill for the present)—I had received a letter from him asking me to hold up the bill—I have destroyed his letter—I wrote this letter on May 27th (Asking the prisoner to send or get Mr. Thellusson to send him the ₤50, as he was going north at the end of the week.)—he replied asking me to hold over the bill as he had no money to pay it—he did not tell me where Mr. Thellusson lived, I never could find out—he also wrote asking me for money besides the money I had advanced, but I declined—on June 4th I went to my country seat, Dalton Hall, Beverley, and while there I continued to get letters from him—he said that if I would let him have ₤100 he would pay me back ₤80, and he wrote about a bill for ₤100 I believe—I wrote this letter of June 26th to the prisoner, but it is not in the same state now, ₤100 has been turned into ₤250, the ₤75 has been altered also, and the figures in the date—I accepted this bill for ₤100 dated June 14th (Produced) and sent it enclosed in this letter of June 29th, the date of which has been altered—I wrote to him in London and in Brighton—I say that the acceptance to this bill for ₤250, dated
June 29th, and purporting to be accepted by me, is a forgery: only the signature was written by me—I received a letter from Mr. Blaberg in July, in consequence of which I wrote to the prisoner stating that I understood that he had been using my name as surety for borrowing ₤250, and that I never had given him authority—he did not reply, and I do not think I ever heard from him afterwards until he was in custody—I received a letter from Mr. George Hunter on August 29th, and wrote to him in consequence—after the prisoner was arrested I received this letter from him from Holloway Prison (This stated that he had been arrested on an unfounded charge of forging His Lordship's signature, whereas His Lordship had sent him a bill from Dalton Hall on June 14th, but declining to say anything as to the further charges except that not a penny had been received by him.) I found these bills in my bank pass book at the beginning of October, and that I was debited with ₤100 and ₤250 acceptances—I was of opinion that the ₤100 bill was a forgery, I had forgotten it—after the prisoner was in custody I saw the two bills and recognized that the ₤100 bill bore my signature.
Cross-examined.When I first saw these bills I thought they were both forged; the ₤100 bill had slipped my memory, but the production of this letter brought it back to my recollection, that I had accepted one for ₤100—as to the forged one, I never make "H" in this way in my signature—I always make this little hook as a rule (Signing his name.) but I may not always—I make the "H" with one action of the pen and there are two or it may be three separate strokes in this—I generally cross the "t" in "th" from the large "H" upwards from the left side—I end my name with an up stroke—the forgery ends in the same way—I did not find the acceptances in the pocket of my pass book, I saw them at the solicitor's office and on this the signature on the ₤100 appeared to be mine, I would not swear one way or the other, I did not know anything about it—I have accepted one bill for an old friend which has gone on for many years and has been renewed five times. I have accepted none this year, I have never done it for myself—I always write my name with two strokes and do not join the tails together—I first met the prisoner on a Friday, I did not tell him my name, I am not the sole occupant of the chambers, it is a mystery to me how he knew which of the many tenants to enquire for—I was at the door to meet him—I had said that I should be there at 9.30—I was coming from my club to 42, Half Moon Street, and he came up at the same time and we went in together—I have had it in my mind that he knew me all along, because there was another Lord in the flat—I never saw Percy Thellusson in my life, I do not know that he is the brother of Lord Rendleston—I saw him for about half an hour each evening—I sent him a telegram from my country house, I forget the date of it—the date "29th" is the only thing altered in this letter, but the "J" in June has been altered and tried to be removed; that may have been done to make the whole appear in the same ink—both these "J's" have been altered—no notice was taken at the police court of the dates having been altered—it looks as if it had been scratched out, it might have been that in altering one they have altered the other—I might make a mistake in writing a letter, and subsequently alter the date—I say that it ought to be the 14th
because it refers to the 14th, the tail of the "9" on the "0" is quite different—I do not say that it has been erased with a knife, the expert says that it was done by chemicals—both these letters refer to one bill, the first bill was drawn on June 14th; the date of the other is the 29th—I say in my letter "I am sending you back the bill signed," that was the ₤100 bill—I do not remember sending it, but I admit on seeing my letter that I did it—I cannot remember anything about the ₤250—I was to send him ₤100 and he was to keep ₤20 and return me ₤80—this says "I send you a cheque for ₤75," and I say that that has been altered from ₤80—that letter does not refer to another acceptance—I wrote ₤75, but I ought to have written ₤80, he was to send me ₤80 because he owed it to me, I wan to have ₤20 back—I cannot understand why I did not lend him ₤80 by trending him a cheque—he did not ask me to make it ₤250, and I did not alter it myself to ₤250, if I had done that I should have over-run my account, and Messrs. Coutts would not allow that—he did not ask me for ₤150 or if I could, ₤250, and I did not alter it to ₤250—I first heard in August that these bills were out, I heard from Mr. Blaberg in July—I wrote to the prisoner telling him that I would not have my name used, but I did not acquaint Messrs. Coutts, because I treated the prisoner as a gentleman and I thought he would not go on with it—Mr. Hunter wrote and asked if the bill for ₤250 was correct; I said "No"—that did not convey to my mind that it was a forged acceptance, because I never saw the original or the copy; I thought writing to the prisoner would be sufficient—I did not know whether it was at three months or any date—Mr. Hunter offered to send it to me, and I did not ask for it because I thought my writing to the prisoner would stop it—I told the police officer in the first instance that I believed they were both forged, but I believe I added that the signature was so much like mine that I could not swear one way or the other—there is no attempt to imitate my signature on this (Exhibit 19).
Re-examined. On July 23rd I heard that the prisoner had been endeavouring to raise money from Mr. Blaberg in my name, and wrote the letter of that date—at the end of August I had the letter from Mr. Hunter in which he asked me which of the two bills was the genuine one—this is my answer to it of September 2nd (Produced)—it did not occur to me to communicate with the bank—I noticed on October 2nd or a day or two before that the bills for ₤100 and ₤250 were in it—the incident had faded from my mind at that time and I informed Messrs. Coutts that they were not my signatures—I came up to London on October 14th between the first and second hearing before the Magistrate—on the 14th I went to Messrs. Mullins & Bosanquet's and saw the two bills—on the remand on the 16th, before my evidence was given, a statement was made before the Magistrate withdrawing the charge with regard to the ₤100—one bill of mine was accepted at Blaberg's, that is my sole experience of bills—that bill was eight or nine years ago or more, and it was renewed five times—that was a backing of a bill for a friend—I kept my own banking account, and I thought I would wait—owing to the loss of ₤450 I was short of money—I say here, "So you can send me a cheque for ₤75"; my recollection is that that was ₤80—I had no document whatever to help me.
THOMAS HENRY GUERRIN . I am a professional expert in handwriting of Bath House, Holborn Viaduct—the bills for ₤250 and ₤100 have been placed before me, also Lord Hotham's letters of June 26 and 29—1 think Exhibit 1 (The ₤250 Bill) is a very good imitation of the genuine signature to the letters—in my opinion this letter, Exhibit 5, is not in the same condition as when it was originally written, the letters "Bever" in the body of the letter are in the same ink but "ley" is in a different ink and that has been covered over and the "th" is in the same black ink—the up stroke in June was in grey ink but it is now in black ink and between "June" and the date I can see a faint brown outline and a figure which looks like a 7; there is no trace of any erasure with a knife but I should say that the figure where the 7 is has been removed by some chemical process: that is common in forgery cases, persons come hawking materials at offices, with which any writing can be erased, "Not negociable" is sometimes quite removed—in "I have filled up the ₤250 for 2 months" the "₤" has four distinct scratches in black ink on top of the grey, and the lower part is visible, a little bit of the grey ink still remains—then we get "250" all in black ink, different from the ink of the letter, and the whole of the telegram is marked down with black ink—in "and so you can send me a cheque for ₤75," a figure "1" appears to have been inserted before the 75, it is a different colour and the "1" has black ink on it, and in "you" the "y" has been covered with black ink from top to bottom—in the letter of June 29th, the bottom of the "J" in June and the "one" have all been passed over with black ink; the "29" has black ink on the top of the "2" and on the top of the "9" and all the way down the stroke—I cannot say what it was before but it may have been "20th"—there is no reason that I can suggest for going over the "June" because it was June before.
By the COURT. But it would be less noticeable; an alteration in the figures alone would make it stand out—in Exhibit 9 the signature "Hotham" appears to be written by the same person who wrote the signature on Exhibit 1; the whole bill appears to be in one writing—I should not say that "Hotham" on Exhibit 19 is as good an imitation as on Exhibit 1—I believe they were both written by the same man, one is as good an imitation as the other.
Cross-examined. Exhibit 19 is certainly the same style as the signature to Lord Hotham's letters—my attention was not directed to it before the Magistrate—it is a rough imitation of Lord Hotham's signature—I only saw the letter of June 29th a few days ago—I believe the word "omitted" in Exhibit 14 was done with the same ink as the rest of the letter, but it is darker—I think it has been altered, but it may have been a fresh dip—I do not think a slight erasure would make any difference—I do not think the same ink was used for the word "omitted"—I said before the Magistrate "I cannot say whether that has been altered by the writer of the letter" but that expression was forced upon me—I cannot say now who altered it, all I will say is that it is not in the condition in which it was when it was first written—in "₤250" there was a figure in advance of the "2" which may have been "1"—the "0" has been covered with the same ink—the "75" has not been touched, but I think the "1" has been inserted, it is in a different
ink to the "75"—it is not impossible that the writer's first intention was to pat "150," and that he altered it to "250"—the "5" may have been an "0" originally, but there is no trace of it—there is a little something which does not quite follow the outline of the "5," it is in the straight line from the top down to the carve—I do not know whether it is merely a slip of the pen—I think that figure was not a 5, I think it more probable that it was some other figure—I do not bind myself to say whether there is more probability of an "0" being there than a "5," or the reverse—I see no trace of chemicals being used to the "5," but there is a trace in the other, a faint brown outline—I cannot say positively that chemicals have been used, but just in front of the "2" in "250" there is a trace of a figure being removed—I answered the questions put to me before the Magistrate—there is no sign of any forcible erasure—chemicals are used to romove all traces, and some people would look at this two or three times without noticing it—any one would be struck by the fact that there had been an alteration—there is no alteration in the "75" alone, bat a "1" has been put in in dark ink—my idea is that "75" was in the place where "175" is now—this letter says, "If you will send me a cheque for ₤75"—I am told that the signature to Lord Hotham's letter is genuine—I cannot say that the other is the same—I am not prepared to say that they are not signed by the same person—I was not asked my opinion ot this signature at the Police Court, I first saw it only a day or two ago—I have no recollection of being asked whether it was not a genuine signature.
By the COURT. I cannot say that I did not see the alleged forgery, but I have no recollection of seeing it—I am not prepared to say that the "Hotham" on Exhibit 1 is genuine, or that it is not; it ia the same signature as is on the other bill, but not on the ₤100 acceptance: I certainly will not say that it is genuine, though to the best of my belief it is not—the exhibits were all shown to me together a day or two ago; my attention was not directed to that at the Police Court.
Re-examined. I have been pressed by my adoption of the word "tampered"—I am influenced by the fact that chemicals were used; they were used in my opinion—I cannot say whether the alterations of June 14th and 29th were also made by chemicals—in going over the original I see traces of the original ink; I see deviations; it is very difficult to obliterate the original ink exactly.
JOSEPH BLADERG . I am manager to Mr. Blaberg who trades as John Sayer, of Argyle Place, bill discounter—a Mr. Phillips called on me last July, alone, and asked if I would discount a bill for ₤250, he afterwards came again with the prisoner and said "This is the gentleman who has the bill"—the prisoner produced this bill (Exhibit 1)—it was in an envelope with the post mark and stamp cut clean away—I said that I would discount it provided I could have the signature verified, and if so I would do it at a very reasonable rate—I do not remember fixing the exact amount, the difficulty was about getting it verified and I asked his permission, he said "How?"—I said "By personal application to Lord Hotham!" He said "No"—I said "I cannot accept it without making applications to Lord Hotham," he said "Won't you accept any other verification?" I said "No" he said "Won't you acceptaletter with Lord Hotham's signatnre?" I said "Certainly
if Lord Hotham will write to me," he palled out a letter but the amount of the bill was not mentioned in it—I said "If you like I will telegraph and if I get a reply in an hour or so you can have it"—he went away and I never saw him again, but Mr. Phillips called on me and I communicated with Lord Hotham.
Cross-examined. I was anxious to do the business because it was good business—my profit would be ₤15—I did not offer to do it at 60 per cent; I do not do business at ₤60 per cent, that would be ₤37 10s.—it did not strike me that Lord Hotham would not like the bill going into the hands of a money-lender.
Re-examined. I was well satisfied with my security.
GEORGE SCOTT HUNTER . I am an agent at 30, Camden Road, and also have an office at 116, Wool Exchange—I made the prisoner's acquaintance in March this year, and about June 20th when I was ill at the Nursing Institute he called on me and showed me a bill for ₤100 accepted by Lord Hotham; this is like it (Produced)—he asked me if I would get it discounted and showed me two letters—this is one of them (Exhibit 5)—I either read it or he read it to me, I was in bed; I remember something about Woodcock and about an accident—it said "I trust Hunter will soon make matters right"—the amount of the acceptance at that time was ₤100—I said that I had never done such a thing in my life and did not care to do it, but I lent him ₤1 by a cheque—I then went to the seaside for a month, about July 24th or 25th—I had an interview with him in London, and he showed me this bill of Lord Hotham's for ₤250, and a letter of even date with this, apparently enclosing the bill, but not referring to the amount—he asked me to discount it, I said that I did not care to do it—he said "It is all right"—I objected, and said I will see if I can get it discounted by my friends—the terms were put into writing—these are them—(This was signed "Geo. S. Hunter" undertaking to return the bill, and to pay the prisoner ₤50 if successful)—I gave it to my partner—I was not successful in discounting it, and I took it back to the prisoner and said that I had failed, and did not want to have anything to do with it—he said that I should have a bill for money I had advanced for him, about ₤159, for business I had done for him—I was introduced to Mr. Brown, and through him to Mr. Poynter—I went to the Titchfield Bank on August 3rd, and found the bill in their possession—they discounted it for me, they offered me ₤20 for the ₤250 bill, I was not satisfied, and they suggested that I should open an account—I did so, and they credited me with ₤200—I drew ₤20 at once—this is a copy of the account—the first cheque drawn was ₤80 to Frederick Self—after that they said that it was usual for me to have a small box of stones, and that they could be returned—I have them still, they are called sapphires, but he only called them stones—I signed this undertaking (Promising not to draw any cheques till the 18th.)—the arrangement was that I should only draw two small cheques until the matter was secured—I drew a cheque for ₤5 10s. but in fact I only received ₤2—on the 23rd I drew a cheque for ₤15 and received part, making ₤24 10s.—that is all I received—after the bill matured I went to the bank and they refused to refund the ₤80 but did not deny their liability—it is a Limited Company—I was not paid the balance of the other two cheques—on
August 3rd I saw the prisoner, he wanted ₤20; I said that I could not give it to him and that the bill had come back marked "Refer to drawer"—I could not find him afterwards; I heard that he was at Brighton and afterwards found that he treated it very much as a joke—I received this letter of August 23rd—the Albert is a public house—after that I met the prisoner and he showed me the bill—I did not meet him at the Albert, he came to my place by appointment—he refused to let me have the bill unless I lent him ₤2; I consulted my solicitors and they advised me to communicate with Lord Hotham—I gave him the ₤2 and got the bill—he wrote this letter in my presence: "Dear Hunter,—Referring to my last letter and subsequent interview I am sorry to have played with you so far re bill but I now enclose you the original bill. It is needless to assure you that this is the original document and as means of identification I have marked the actual bill with a cross thus X. Truly yours, Cadwallader Edwards"—upon that I wrote to Lord Hotham and received from him the letter of September 22nd.
Cross-examined. I saw the two letters when I was ill, but do not know whether I read them or whether they were read to me; I remember the reference to Hunter and the phrase "₤100"—he owed me about ₤160 when I arranged with him to negotiate the bill, it was possibly ₤110 when the bill was shown to me—at that time I was acting for him in reference to certain Irish estates which were in the Land Court—my solicitor wanted money to pay fees to Counsel and I told the prisoner I had already incurred expenses and was not justified in going any further: there were 500 acres when I first had to do with it, and I found afterwards it was only 24 acres—I did not make an arrangement with him to receive ₤50 for discounting it—I wrote this letter in his presence (This stated "If I succeed it is understood that he pays me ₤50") that was not addressed to any one, I handed it to him—it was not for money he owed me, it was his own suggestion: no doubt he had tried to discount it somewhere else—I did not tell him I could get it done at my bank, I said at some bank—I handed it to my partner, I do not understand bills, this is the first one I had—it is probable I got it on July 27th, and on that day he ceased to have any interest in it—after that, and no longer acting for the prisoner, I was introduced to Mr. Brown and by him to the Titchfield bank which I did not know before that—I discounted the bill and got a box of sapphires and went away and told the prisoner what had happened, I told him nothing about the stones, I did not tell him anything except what he asked me—it was on August 8th that I made the arrangement only to draw two small cheques, not the whole—I gave him to understand that whoever cashed it should hold it over—I told him there was a lot of trouble attached to the bill—the bank would not take it—I was led to believe that it was an accommodation acceptance. Captain Edwards (The prisoner.) did not ask me to give him the bill back—on August 23rd, I wrote a letter saying that he had played a little comedy on me—he did not say that he had heard from Lord Hotham and that his Lordship said that he had no authority to use his name—he did not draw out another bill and say that the bill he gave me was a copy and that if I would give back the bill he would give me the original if I would give him ₤2—he did say
that he would give it back for ₤2, he did not give me the copy, nor did I keep the two—he did not to my knowledge write to me and request me to return the bill—the consideration for his handing over this bill to me was all the money I had advanced from time to time.
By the COURT. He has property in Ireland but there are three incumbrances on it, whether he can claim the balance I do not know—it is only 24 acres, the rest has been purchased by the tenant—I do not suggest that the fore-shore in Wexford is worth ₤500 an acre unless the place is developed; I did not make a definite statement—I do not know that the Great Western Railway are taking it and that there is an Act for a new harbour—he said that he gave me the bill for all the expenses I had incurred, that it would satisfy all claimants and have 500 acres clear—the prisoner gave me Lord Hotham's address at Beverley—I was always in a position to write to him, and I told the prisoner I had heard from him—I did not say that the bill would not be presented—it is untrue—I told him it had been discounted.
FRANK LEWIS PAINTER . I manage the business of the Titchfield Bank, Limited, Titchfield Street—I carry on other private business—this (Produced) is an old balance sheet—Mr. Hunter brought me this bill (Produced) to discount—it bears my endorsement—I do not know by whom he was introduced to me, he opened an account at the bank with the proceeds of the bill, this is a copy of his account, he was credited with ₤200—I also sold him some stones, that certainly was an out and out sale—the first debit is ₤80—the first entry is ₤200 for the ₤250 bill in less than two months—the first debit is ₤80 for the stones—then there is a cheque book 1s., cheque returned 1s., cheque on the Titchfield Bank ₤15—there is a credit of 10s. on the same day—10s. was paid in, not ₤10—that was for a transfer—he apparently wanted a new cheque book every day—"Downer ₤789s.," that is, Hunter's solicitor—cheque returned 2s.—cheque book 1s., that exhausted the account—we charged him ₤4 10s. for advancing him money on cheques, for cashing cheques, that was taken out of the ₤15, leaving 10 guineas—we discount a bill and no cheque is to be drawn against it till the bill is paid—this balance sheet is an old one.
Cross-examined. I never had dealings with Captain Edwards. I handed the money to Hunter on the authority of a letter he handed me from Lord Hotham, this is it (Produced) I took the bill to Coutts's Bank to have the signature verified—they kept it three quarters of an hour—I have never seen Edwards and know nothing about him.
Cross-examined. I have seen the bill, it was sent to me—I made inquiries about the signature, not because I had some doubt about it, but we generally do so—the ordinary inquiries were made, and it was reported to be perfectly in order—I cannot say whether Lord Hotham was written to as I was absent for my holidays—I do not know that the bank wrote to Lord Hotham about it—that would not be the practice if they were satisfied that it was his signature.
hold the bills which are alleged to be forged, and uttered by you in July last, one for ₤100 and another for ₤250, both on Coutts's Bank, Strand." I showed them to him, he said nothing then, but on the way to the station he said "Who is prosecuting?" I said "The Banking Association on behalf of Messrs. Coutts' and Co." He said "Does his Lordship say that both bills are forged?" I said "Yes"—I searched him and found this card "Capt Edwards, Eildare Street Club," and some letters from Lord Hotham in his pocket book—he gave the address of his lodgings, 66, Hugh Street, Pimlico, where I found Exhibit 17 (The receipt for the ₤250 bill.)
Cross-examined. I had not seen Lord Hotham when I saw the prisoner, when he said "Does Lord Hotham say these bills were forged?"—I was not repeating what he told me; the Bankers' Association told me they were forged.
STEPHEN HENRY LOVE . I am chief clerk to Robert Hamilton Williams, bill broker, of 155, Fenchurch Street—Mr. O'Sullivan introduced the prisoner to me on June 18th this year, and on June 21st I discounted for him this bill for ₤100—I gave him a cheque for ₤93 13s. 8d. "to order," but it has been altered to "pay cash," because Captain Edwards said that he had no banking account—I made no difficulty about it because the acceptance is so well known.
The prisoner, in his defence, stated upon oath that Lord Hotham gave him his private address when they met in the Park, and that he looked in the Directory and found Lord Hotham's name; that he went there and was shown in ten minutes before Lord Hotham arrived; that he mentioned his Irish property, and handed Lord Hotham an acceptance, which he had received from his brother-in-law, Percy Thellusson—He denied forging the bill or using any chemicals to the letter, and stated that the bill bore Lord Hotham's genuine signature; that he did not know until he was arrested that it had been presented at the Titchfield Bank, and that he never was in the Army, and never was a member of the Kildare Street Club.
S. H. LOVE (Re-examined). If a bill is handed in for discount we put it into our banker's hands, and leave it to them to present it, unless it is taken up previously.
GUILTY .—He then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction of conspiracy and fraud, at this Court, on December 12th, 1898, and other convictions were proved against him.— Five years' penal servitude.
THIRD COURT.—Wednesday, November 20th, 1901.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant.
J. P. GRAIN Prosecuted.
ROBERT GARDNER . I am senior partner in the firm of Craig Gardner & Co., auditors and accountants, 40 and 41 Dame Street, Dublin, 7 Donegal Street, Belfast, and 41 Moorgate Street, City—my private address is Ashley, Clyde Road, Dublin—my wife's name is Nora—I am a Justice of the Peace for the City of Dublin—the
prisoner is my brother—he is about 49 or 50 years of age—from about 1880 to 1897 my family and I have received innumerable post cards and letters like these produced. These contained statements that the prisoner was starving, and the expressions "Craig's bastards," "Sodomy Johnson," and one dated "Queen's Birthday" stated "I have neither money, food nor bed, I won't stand it much longer. I am still starving. What is it your hubby wants me to do? I make a reasonable offer." I admit what I write on which he prosecutes me is not true, and there is no ground for it, but I have been treated very badly." Another of 2nd July, 1901, accused the witness of publishing in the "Irish Times" derogatory matters about his brother and sister. The prisoner was employed in the National Bank for some years, then he was in our office for some time about 1880—we found it necessary to dispense with his services—in consequence of the receipt of these documents in 1884. I took proceedings in this Court after instructing Messrs Humphreys & Sons, solicitors, of the letter of July 13, 1896, and the agreement of August 24, 1897, bear the prisoner's signature—(By this the prisoner agreed to leave the country on payment of his passage money and certain sums.)—That was the second occasion I bad taken a passage for him—in consequence of the receipt of innumerable cards by my wife, myself and others, I took proceedings in this Court in 1897—the whole of the letters and cards and addresses produced (Exhibits 1 to 17) are the prisoner's writing—they were all delivered to my address—in consequence of some of the letters I saw, I gave instructions that all letters emanating from that source should be given to me by my servants—I have a family—the cards were and the letters might be open to members of my household—I have been married more than once and so far as I know, the prisoner has never seen my present wife Nora Gardner—there is no truth in the letters and the cards as the prisoner admits.
Cross-examined by the Prisoner. This is the third time I have prosecuted you—I do not prosecute in Dublin because you are living here—I have no doubt about your writing—I have never written to the Irish Times nor any paper on any matter in connection with you—I did not put you into a lunatic asylum when I got you drunk, you were put in when I was away from home. (The prisoner continued to ask questions which the Court held to be irrelevant).
WALTER GEORGE BISHOP . I am an overseer of the West Central District Post Office, Oxford Street—Exhibit 13A was posted there on August 7th, Exhibit 14 on August 9th, Exhibit 15 on October 4th, and Exhibit 17 on October 19th, 1901.
GEORGE WILLIAM JACOB . I am an Inspector in the service of the Postmaster General, at Mount Pleasant, Clerkenwell—Exhibit 4 was posted in the E.C. district on May 21st, Exhibit 5A on May 24th, 1900, and Exhibit 16A on October 18th, 1901.
LLOYD GRIFFITH WORTH . I have been clerk to Messrs Humphreys & Sons, Solicitors, many years—I witnessed the prisoner sign this agreement, dated July 13th, 1896—I took a third class passage for him by the Orient to Sydney, and accompanied him to a wholesale house in
the City, where he had an outfit of his own selection—these were paid for by Mr. Gardner, who employed Messrs. Humyhreys & Sons.
WILLIAM WILLIAMSON (Detective Officer). On October 31st I read a communication from the City Bridewell Police Station—I went there and received a warrant granted by Mr. Marsham, a Magistrate at Bow Street—I read it to the prisoner and arrested him—it charges him with unlawfully and maliciously publishing a certain defamatory libel of and concerning one Robert Gardner—he said "It is quite right, I should not have written the postcards to my brother had he sent me money. I had written to him telling him that I was impecunious, but he took no notice of my letter"—he was taken to Bow Street and charged—whilst waiting to be charged he said "I shall not plead guilty, I intend to put my brother to all the trouble and expense I possibly can."
Cross-examined. You were not excited.
The prisoner in his defence said that prosecutor had abused his sister in the Irish Times and had been cruel to him, and that he would not prosecute in Dublin because the Court had told him he was a perjured lying scoundrel.
GUILTY .— Eighteen months' second division.
32. GEORGE WILLIAM BOWKER (31), WILLIAM SMITH (22), JAMES COWLEY (21) and HENRY PRICE (20) . Robbery with violence on Abraham Finkelstein and stealing a bag, 3 forks, 2 spoons, a hammer and 2 chisels, his property.
MR. PICKERSGILL Prosecuted MR. BURNIE and MR. FORDHAM Defended
ABRAHAM FINKELSTEIN (Interpreted). I live at 87, Nelson Street—I am a traveller for second-hand furniture and drapery—on October 28th, about 4 p.m., I was passing Aldgate Street, Mile End, carrying this bag, and when at the corner of Bedford Street and Nelson Street, Bowker, Smith and Price suddenly came; Bowker struck me a violent blow—I was so dazzled I do not know whether I had more blows—I remained standing—Bowker struggled for possession of the bag, but I was so dazzled I do not remember who took it—it contained three forks and two spoons, all silver, value about ₤3—which were given me to polish—there was also a hammer and screw-driver in the bag.
Cross-examined by Bowker. You chased me into a shop after you struck me, but the officer held you and I was saved—as I was entering you were detained by a detective, who gave me the bag in the shop when he was holding you on the ground.
Cross-examined by MR. FORDHAM. I do not remember if I swore before the magistrates the day after the robbery "I cannot swear to Smith"—I did not see Smith do anything—he was standing between two other men when Bowker struck me.
Cross-examined by Cowley. I remember your face, when I was going to lunch about 3.30 in the street where I live, about half or three-quarters of an hour before the robbery.
Cross-examined by Price. You were there, but I do not know whether any but Bowker took part in the assault—before I was struck I saw Bowker standing on the pavement with the two other men that I identified.
HENRY DESSENT (409 H). On Monday, October 28th, I was in Bedford Street, shortly after 4 p.m., with another officer in plain clothes—I noticed the prisoner and another man standing outside the Bedford Arms—the prosecutor came down the street with a bag; the prisoner and another man closed round him—I saw Bowker strike the prosecutor on his mouth, and then snatch the bag out of his hand—he fell up against a public house, he recovered himself and seized hold of Bowker, Price then struck him several blows about the face and body—they then got into the middle of the road and a general struggle took place, the bag and two or three of them seemed to go to the ground together—the prosecutor recovered his bag and ran into a boot shop about a dozen or fifteen yards away, followed by the prisoners; Bowker, who was nearest, again got hold of the bag and got right into the shop with the prosecutor, the other prisoners standing round the door—I got into the shop and took the bag out of Bowker's hand—he was struggling with the prosecutor—I said, "We are police officers"—the prosecutor said, "Oh, all right, they tried to rob my bag"—I told Bowker that I should take him into custody—he commenced to struggle and threw me to the floor of the shop—owing to his violence I was compelled to draw my truncheon to him—Moss had Price in custody at the door of the shop, and there was a struggle outside—Leeson, who was in plain clothes, came to my assistance—Cowley and Smith rescued Price from Moss's custody—we took Bowker to Arbour Square Police Station—it required three of us—he struggled violently the whole way—I left the station with Moss and Leeson—passing through Clarke Street about 200 to 300 yards from the station I saw Smith in custody of a uniform officer—I went through Exmouth Street to Oxford Street, and there saw Cowley and Price turning from Oxford Street into Jamaica Street—they were going in the direction of Mile End Road—I followed them and told them they would be taken into custody for being concerned with two other men in custody for robbing a man in Bedford Street—Cowley said, "Oh, all right, Governor, I was there, but had nothing to do with the job"—they were then charged—Bowker said, "This means a bashing, the man that flogs me won't live another day"—he then said to the other prisoners, "Cheer up, we are all in it"—he made no reply to the charge.
Cross-examined by Bowker. I had had you under observation quite three minutes prior to this taking place—you had the bag in your hand at the door, I took it out of your hand in the shop.
Cross-examined by MR. FORDHAM. I was 60 to 70 yards from the assault—it was quite daylight—I was in plain clothes—the fifth man was the same stamp as the prisoners—the whole of the men hustled the prosecutor when he was in the centre of the road—I know all the men—Smith has not been in trouble.
Cross-examined by Cowley. I saw no females there—there was no conversation with the prosecutor—you were charged five minutes after being in the station—you were not put into separate rooms; you were in the charge-room—you hustled the prosecutor with Smith and Bowker—✗ I had seen you outside the public house about five miniutes before the assualt— you were arrested about midway between the police court and the scene of the assault—you were not on your way home but you had been met by another officer.
Cross-examined by Price. Moss took you into custody in Jamaica Street about 300 yards from the Police-court—you were going towards the Mile End Road—Leeson and Moss were with me.
THOMAS MOSS . (157 H) I was with Dessent about 4 p.m. on October 28th at the corner of Bedford Street and the Commercial Road in plain clothes—I saw the prisoner and another man and the prosecutor going towards them—when he got opposite them they surrounded him, Bowker striking him on the face—he snatched his bag causing him to fall against a public-house—the other man got hold of him and there was a general struggle in the road—Price struck him several times about his head and body—the bag fell to the ground from Bowker's hand—the prosecutor struggled, got hold of it, and ran towards the boot-shop in Bedford Street—Dessent went towards them and I followed—he caught Bowker in the shop with the bag in his hand—all the men ran after the prosecutor who ran into the shop—Bowker got the bag from the prosecutor as he was entering the shop—Dessent got hold of Bowker and they fell to the floor of the shop—I arrested Price outside the shop—Smith, Cowley, and the man not in custody took him away—I went into the shop—Leeson came up—we took Bowker to the station and left him there—he was afterwards charged with assault and robbery—he said "Robbery and assault mean a bashing, the man that bags me won't live another day—" the prisoners were charged together—I saw Smith with Lucas—we followed him he was one of the men wanted with Bowker and others, and from what he told us we. went to Jamaica Street and there saw Cowley and Price going in the direction of Mile End Road and in the opposite direction to the Police Station—I arrested Price—I told him he would be charged with being concerned in highway robbery—on the way to the station Cowley said, "I was there, but I had nothing to do with the job."
Cross-examined by Bowker. I was about 50 yards off when you took the bag—you struck him first.
Cross-examined by MR. FORDHAM. I did not know Smith—I might have been 60 or 70 yards off—I did not see Smith touch the prosecutor—Smith did not appear to have been drinking—he was arrested about 15 minutes after the robbery—he was outside the public-house when I saw him.
Cross-examined by Price. I caught hold of you first, before the other constable—I did not see any females—it was outside a private house.
BENJAMIN LEESON (Detective H). On October 28th, I was on duty in Bedford Street about 4 p.m. in private clothes—I saw the prisoners and another man standing at the corner of Bedford Street and Nelson Street—as the prosecutor passed them the whole five closed round him—Bowker struck him in his face and knocked him up against the public-house, and seized a bag from his hand, there was a struggle between Bowker and the prosecutor—Price struck the prosecutor several blows about his face and body—then the prisoners Cowley, Price, and Bowker fell into the roadway—the bag fell from Bowker's hand— the prosecutor picked it up and ran away closely followed by the prisoners—I ran after them—I saw the prosecutor enter a boot shop followed by Bowker— when I got to the shop
doorway I saw Moss for the first time; he had hold of Price—Dessent struggled with Bowker and I assisted him as Bowker was very violent—I then noticed that Moss had lost his prisoner Price, who was running down Bedford Street with Cowley and Smith—Bowker who was very violent was then taken to Arbour Square Police Station and handed over to some one inside, and Moss, Dessent, and I went in search of the other prisoners—as we passed through Clarke Street, I saw Smith in the custody of Lucas a uniform man—Dessent spoke to Lucas—we then went through a turning into Oxford Street—I saw Price and Cowley turn into Jamaica Street—we went after them and overtook them—I took Cowley into custody—before I had an opportunity of telling him what it was for, he said "What are you putting it on to me for? I did not touch him, and never touched the bag"—he was then taken to Arbour Square Police Station where he was charged with the other three prisoners—he said, "I suppose I shall get through it" he then stopped, and again said, "Oh, I see you are putting it down, I am done"—Bowker said, "Cheer up, we are all in it, this means abashing, but the man who gives it me won't live long"—when arrested Cowley and Price were going down Jamaica Street away from Arbour Square.
Cross-examined by MR. FORDHAM. I saw five men—I was about 70 yards off—I went in the opposite direction to the other constables, I had no idea of their approach till I saw them at the shop—I know Smith by sight and the others—I saw Bowker strike the prosecutor—Smith closed round him with the others before the blow was struck and afterwards—he was sober—I saw him at the station and took his description—I do not think he was the worse for drink.
Cross-examined by Cowley. You ran in the direction of Mile-End Road.
Cross-examined by Price. You were all together—you struck the prosecutor on the footway—possibly you struck him in the road as well—I did not see females in your company, there were females about—Moss arrested you, and Dessent went to his assistance.
HENRY LUCAS (H 264). On the afternoon of October 28th from information I received, I ran up Commercial Road, along Nelson Street and Sidney Street—in Nelson Street I saw Smith, Price, Cowley, and another man running down Bedford Street from Nelson Street—I gave chase and caught them in Ford Square—I said to Smith, "What were you running for?"—he replied "My pal got pinched just now"—I told him I should take him to the station on suspicion of being concerned with other men in robbing a man in Bedford Street"—he replied "I do not know anything about the old bloke, I never had his bag"—he then called to the other three men a distance off "Highway robbery means a flogging, don't let them take me for this boys, this means something, and we are all in it"—he was sober—he said "If you want to lock me up cannot you charge me with being drunk and disorderly?"—the other three men came back, he was struggling very violently, and they all tried to get him away from me—I drew my truncheon and knocked one man down, the man that got away—I hit at Price, Cowley and the other man ran down Clarke Street towards Jamaica Street—I took Smith to the station—on the way I met other officers and told them the direction the
others were gone—when charged at the station, Smith said "That's all right and got nothing after all"—they were charged with being concerned together in robbery with violence.
Cross-examined by MR. FORDHAM. I made a note of what I could remember of Smith's statement as soon as the charge was taken—he was excited, he tried to get away, but he was sober.
Cross-examined by Cowley. You turned from Nelson Street into Baker Street—that was before you were caught in Ford Square at the bottom of Bedford Street—I saw Smith, Price, you, and another man—I was not with another constable—I did not say "Come out of it, don't get making such a row."
Cross-examined by Price. You were with Smith when I arrested him—I did not say to Smith "Clear out of it," because he was very obstreperous, nor take him for being drunk—I met with other officers on the way to the station—I cannot say that any females were with you, there were a lot in the street—Clark Street is at the corner of Ford Square.
CHARLES GRAHAM GRANT . I am the divisional Police Surgeon—on October 28th I examined the prosecutor about 5 p.m.—I found him suffering from a blow on his mouth which had loosened three teeth on the right side of the upper jaw—he had an abrasion on the lower ribs on the right side, his pulse was 104 to the minute—he was suffering from shock—he was sober—there was a little blood about his teeth.
Cross-examined by Bowker. The blood was not visible till you turned up his lip.
The prisoners' statement before the Magistrate: SMITH says—"I was going home with my sister and another young woman drunk when the constable stopped me. I know nothing of this. At the station I was knocked down and nearly strangled."
COWLEY says—"I and Price were getting Smith home, because he had a drop to drink when the constable took him. His sister asked us to get bail as we thought it was for drunk. When we were on our way to Arbour Square the constable takes us, he did not tell me what it was for till they got me inside." Price says—"I was the same as Cowley."
Bowker in his defence said that he was waiting for his "pal" who had had five days for being drunk, when the other prisoners came along and the prosecutor shoved up against him and he shoved him but he was innocent of robbing him though guilty of striking him. Smith in his defence said on oath that he was in the public house and never saw the prosecutor and knew nothing of the assault. Cowley in his defence said that he was drunk with Price and Smith, and they had paid their fines and were drinking with some women. I rice made a similar defence.
GUILTY . Smith recommended to mercy by the jury—Price then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction of felony at Clerkenwell in September 1900. Another conviction was proved against him.—SMITH, Eight months' hard labour ✗COWLEY Twelve months' hard labour —BOWKER and PRICE Twelve months' hard labour and eighteen strokes with the birch
MR. BODKIN Prosecuted.
ALFRED SHAW (525 X). I was on duty at 3 a.m. on October 31st, in plain clothes with constable 179 near 277 High Road, Kilburn, a jeweller's shop belonging to George Innes, the window of which is enclosed by an iron grill so that one can see the goods at night—I saw Holliday kneeling and tampering with the bottom lock while Kew was watching—Holliday held the lock with his left hand and worked at the lock with his right at this padlock—two private persons came along, and the prisoners walked away—they stood on the edge of the kerb till those persons passed and then returned to the shop—we then stood in the doorway—they walked in an opposite direction—I asked them what they were doing there—Holliday replied, "We have just come back from the theatre, we are doing nothing"—we took them to the station—Holliday put his hand in his pocket; I pulled it out and took this revolver out—it was loaded in six chambers—Holliday said, "This means eighteen months for us"—they were charged with having housebreaking instruments by night—on being searched I found on Holliday eleven cartridges, this skeleton key and the small bunch of seven keys, and on Kew these keys and a knife and two boxes of matches—this large bunch of twenty-one keys were found at Kew's lodgings.
Cross-examined by Holliday. I first saw you at a coffee stall and kept you under observation about twenty minutes—I saw you both go to this shop.
Cross-examined by Kew. You never said anything to me about having found the keys and taking them to the station, and being told to keep them and leave your address if anyone owned them; nor about your using the knife to cut up flour bags to sell to a laundress for 8d.
WILLIAM BURRELL (Police Sergeant examined). I received information from Shaw and went to 277 High Road, Kilburn—inside the shop railings I found this small saw and this screw driver—I examined the iron grill and this bottom padlock which has marks of a saw upon it was handed to me by the occupier—it has been filed and the marks correspond with this instrument.
GUILTY .—A conviction was proved against Kew, and property was found at their lodgings connected with other cases. Five years' penal servitude.
OLD COURT.—Thursday, November 21st, 1901.
(For the case of George Henry Franklin, tried this day, see Essex Cases).
THIRD COURT.—Thursday, November 21st, 1901.
Before Common Sergeant.
Mr. O'CONNOR Prosecuted, MR. SYMMONS Defended
FREDERICK CANEY . I am a chaff-cutter, of Albert Park Mews, Highbury—Between 12 and 1 a.m. on September 22nd I was with three others at Mount Pleasant, we saw four men coming toward us. One of them knocked up against me and I apologised, and he then bit me in the face. I went to retaliate, but missed him, and he then stabbed me in my left side. I did not see any weapon, and I do not recognise the prisoner. It was all done in about five minutes, and later on I found myself at the Hospital.
Cross-examined. We were face to face and struck at each other, I think the man I quarrelled with was stouter than the prisoner.
EDWIN PARKER . I live at Newin's Court, Mitchell Street, St. Lukes, and am a carman. I was with Caney when this occurrence took place. When our party met the prisoner's party, the prisoner "shouldered" Caney, who begged the prisoner's pardon, and then the prisoner struck Caney in the face. He went to retaliate and the prisoner drew a knife and made a lunge at him. Caney stepped back and the prisoner made another lunge at him and stuck the knife in his side. They all then ran away and we took Caney to the hospital. On the following Wednesday evening at 11.30 p.m. I was in Warner Street, which runs in a line with Mount Pleasant and saw the prisoner cross the road and go into No. 52, Warner Street. I met two detectives at the corner of Eyre Street Hill and informed them and went to the house with them and there recognised the prisoner, who was in bed.
Cross-examined. I had had five or six drinks. I cannot say why Caney apologised to the prisoner. Many Italians live in that neighbourhood, but I know the prisoner was the man who assaulted Caney. I could pick him out anywhere.
ALFRED H. BREHAUT . I am House Surgeon at King's College Hospital. I saw Caney in October at the Royal Free Hospital, Gray's Inn Road. He had a wound about 2 inches long in his left side between the eighth and ninth ribs, and was very feverish as the result of the complication of the wound. It has now healed up but I cannot say definitely whether or not any permanent injury will result from it.
HERBERT GREY (Detective, E). About 11.30 p.m. on September 25th I and another officer went with Parker to 52, Warner Street, where Parker pointed to the prisoner who was in bed and said, "That is the man," meaning the man who had stabbed Caney. I told him I was a police officer and should take him into custody for stabbing a man at Mount Pleasant on the morning of September 22nd. He said, "All right, if you say it is me, then it is me." At the station he said, "If you think I am the one who did it, put me inside; I have got to prove where I was."
Cross-examined. He did not say, "I can prove where I was."
Cross-examined. I found the knife under an archway in Warner Street about a yard from the wall. The prisoner has been in England about twelve years. I know nothing against him.
The prisoner in his defence stated on oath that he was not in Mount Pleasant on Sunday morning September 22nd, neither did he stab Caney as he was in bed at 11.30 p.m. and remained there all night, that the knife produced was not his and he had never seen it before, he saw it at the Police Station and that he had not worn a knife for three years. NOT GUILTY .
36. SAMUEL LAWRENCE (38) . Indecently assaulting Frank Canut. Other Counts: For gross indecency with William Stapleton, and other male persons. MR. FORDHAM Prosecuted. GUILTY . Six months' hard labour.
FOURTH COURT.—Thursday, November 21st, 1901.
Before Mr. Commissioner L. Smithy, K.B.
MR. THOMAS Prosecuted.
ALFRED JAMES HORTON . On Saturday, October 19th, I was at a corner of Hornsey Road, Holloway—I came out of a public house with about 8s. in silver in my pocket, also a pocket knife and a piece of black ead pencil—I had had too much to drink.
Cross-examined by Townsend, I had not been off a tram car five minutes—I did not suspect the person who called me out of the public-house—I was knocked over the head—I called for the police thrice—I got assistance.
Cross-examined by Warner. I was charged with being drunk—I found my way to the station in a dazed condition and stated my case—I asked to see the divisonal surgeon, who was satisfied with the way I had been treated—when I called out "Police" I was struck again—all I recollect was receiving a blow on the top of my head and that my hat was pulled over my eyes and I got more—I am a printer.
ALICE SELWYN . I live at 42, Queensland Road, Holloway—I am a widow and keep a coffee stall outside the Eaglet public-house—on October 19th. about 11 p.m., my daughter and I were serving customers—I saw Warner go into the bar of the Eaglet and call the prosecutor out—I had known the prisoners by their hanging about the public-house for the last three years—Warner shook hands with him and asked him how he was—he made no reply—Warner took him by the shoulders and pushed him against a partition—Townsend stood on the prosecutor's left side and pulled his cap over his head and blindfolded him, while Warner had two hands in his pockets—Townsend hit the prosecutor three times nearly on the top of his head—I said, "You beast, let the man alone"—my daughter said, "You beast, let the man alone"—Warner pulled his hands out of the prosecutor's pockets and dropped a shilling through his fingers—my daughter picked it up and Townsend left the prosecutor and said, "Let
that b—shilling alone, it is not yours, it is mine"—my daughter said, "Why? when you have done that to the poor man, I will pick up the shilling," but he trod on her fingers and picked it up himself—Warner used a bad expression, and they went about four yards from the stall and shared the money between them.
Cross-examined by Townsend. I saw three other men, but they did not do anything; they walked away—I never said at the station that if you had not insulted my daughter I would not have done this—you did not make a mark on my daughter's finger, because you were not long enough.
EMILY SELWYN . I assist my mother, the last witness, at her stall—I have known the prisoner hanging about the Eaglet since I have been at the stall about three years—on Saturday night I saw Warner call the prosecutor outside the public house, but he would not answer him—Warner beat him on the head and pushed him against a partition—he holloaed "Oh! leave off"—Townsend took him by the shoulders and Warner blind-folded him with his cap and then went down his pockets—I told him to leave go—the prosecutor was holloaing out for help—Warner pulled his hands out of prosecutor's pockets and dropped a shilling—Townsend let go of the man and I went to pick it up—Townsend said, "Leave that alone, that is mine"—he trod on my finger and they both used beautiful language to me—the man's pockets were hanging out and he holloaed "you have robbed me"—the prisoner then went beyond the baked tater man and shared the money—the prosecutor's head was hurt where Townsend beat him with his hard hat.
Cross-examined by Townsend. When you beat him with your hat I hallaoed out "Leave the man alone"—the shilling fell in front of my stall where I was standing—our stall is about three yards from where it happened, and you both walked two yards from the baked tater can, and shared the money, and went round Maple Street—my mother, my little sister, the man at a whelk stall, and chestnut Johnny and baked tater Johnny were the only people about outside the Eaglet: and they were serving customers when you helped to rob the man.
Cross-examined by Warner. Both of you beat him on the head—you held him by the shoulders while Townsend blindfolded him—you let go of his shoulders and went down his pockets.
CHARLES BAKER . I am a labourer of Queensland Road, Holloway—Mrs Selwyn is my sister-in-law—on Saturday night, October 19th, I was outside the Eaglet, assisting her at the stall—Warner called the prosecutor out of the public house and put his hat over his head—Warner went down his pockets and Townsend on his left side put his hat over his head and battered him—Warner pulled his hand out of the prosecutor's pockets and dropped a shilling—Emily Selwyn picked it up and Townsend said "Put it down" and tried to tread on her fingers, the prisoners went into Maple Street.
Cross-examined by Townsend. You put his hat over his eyes with both hands—yon passed silver over to one another outside the baked tater can.
Cross-examined by Warner. You pulled the prosecutor's cap over his eyes—you had both hands down his pockets at the same time—I saw you take
money out—you had one hand shut and one open when the shilling dropped out of your fingers—you had money in both hands—there were two more men there—I do not know how much you gave them.
ARTHUR WHITE (616 Y.) I arrested Townsend on October 20th—I told him he would be charged with being concerned in robbing a man outside the Eaglet—he said, "You have made a mistake"—when the charge was taken he said, "I picked up a shilling, and spent a penny of it in four-ale"—11d. change was found on him—I afterwards saw the prosecutor, who was dazed, and complained of injury to his head—the Divisional Surgeon who was called failed to find any marks of violence.
HERBERT STILES (442 Y). I arrested Warner on the Sunday afternoon at 3.30—I told him I should take him into custody on suspicion of being concerned with another man in custody, in a robbery—he said, "It is news to me"—he was identified by the witnesses.
Townsend in his defence said that he did not see the robbery but heard shouting and a coin drop, and both he and the young woman tried to pick it up, and as he got it she swore at him, that he spent it in ale, and returned to the same public-house, where he remained till closing time, and was arrested.
Warner's defence. I went into this public house on my road home, I knew nothing about the robbery but heard that the constable fetched another man out of bed who resembled me, the witnesses are mistaken.
GUILTY .—TOWNSEND then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction of felony at Tottenham in August, 1901, and another conviction was proved against him.
WARNER then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction of felony at the North London Police Court on March 28, 1892. Three other convictions were proved against him, and he was stated to have been convicted several times of assaults and to be an associate of thieves. Three years' penal servitude each.
MR. HUTTON and MR. FORDHAM Prosecuted.
WILLIAM BROGDEN (Detective, H). About 12.40 on October 30th, I was in Leman Street with Thomas Rose, and saw Cope and a man named Wensley who has since been discharged—Wensley was wheeling a coste re-monger's barrow upon which were two sacks—Cope walked away from the barrow up Leman Street towards Aldgate—he looked in a public house, and then spoke to Wensley who was with the barrow outside, and walked towards Aldgate—I said, "What have you got on the barrow?" he said, "You have made a mistake, I know nothing about it"—I took him back to Wensley and said, "I have seen you with this barrow"—he said, "He gave me a shilling to wheel this barrow towards Aldgate for him"—Cope said, "It is quite right, this man knows nothing about it, it is the first time I have ever done anything like this, I am done; I met a man on Tower Hill whom I know as Harry, who asked me if I could find a buyer for him, I believe he works on the ship Teal"—I examined the sacks and found 61lbs. of leaf tobacco—it could be dropped over the ship's side into a boat and taken ashore—the prisoners were all charged together on the 8th, and the second hearing was a week after, and they came up again on the 31st
—Hayes was charged with unlawful possession, and on inquiries being made—he made no reply—Cope said, "I did not steal it."
Cross-examined by Cope. I saw no third man—I did not call you a Frenchman and say I would drop it in for you—I did not go to the London Hospital to your wife.
THOMAS ROSE (Detective, H). I was with Brogden when he spoke to Cope—I had seen Cope prior to that with a barrow—I went on board the ship Teal and saw Hayes—I asked him if he knew a man named Billy Cope—he said "Yes, I generally see him on Tower Hill"—I told him Cope was in custody for unlawful possession of 60lbs. of tobacco—he made no reply—when confronted with Cope at the police station, Hayes said, "I do not know the man"—Cope said "I do not know him."
Cross-examined by Hayes. You used no such words as 'I have heard his name in the Navigation Company, I do not know him"—I did not say "It is no good, he has shopped you"—you did not say "Nobody can shop me"—I did not say "I will meet you at four o'clock," and you did not answer "You can, only I have an appointment with my wife"—when you changed your clothes you said "I have got to meet my wife this afternoon,"—I took you to Leman Street Station and you were detained—I searched your place with other detectives—your wife lent me a chair and I stood on it—I searched the house—I found something, not tobacco.
WILLIAM LANE . I am second mate on the steam ship Teal, belonging to the General Steamship Navigation Company which arrived from Rotterdam on October 27th with a general cargo of 20 oases of leaf tobacco marked J. F., Nos. 122 to 141—5 cases were under the poop, the others were under lock and key—Harper was night watchman from 6 p.m. on October 28th, till 8 a.m. on 29th—he would be able to get to the tobacco on the poop—on October 28th between 8 and 9 p.m. he asked leave to go ashore to meet his wife and get his supper—he went and returned and reported himself to me a few minutes to 9—on October 29th the tobacco was unloaded, put into a lighter and taken charge of by a Custom House Officer—the cases are 3ft bin. high, about 95 Rilors, and contain 2081bs of tobacco—they are made of slight wood and are similar to ordinary packing cases.
Cross-examined by Hayes. I have heard you called "George," you signed as George Henry—I cannot say I have heard you called Harry.
Cross-examined by the COURT. The ship was in the river abreast of the Tower—we had to go ashore in a boat.
HENRY JOHN PITTS . I am a Customs' Officer—on October 29th I was in charge of a barge and conveyed from the ship Teal 55 packages of leaf tobacco to the Victoria Docks—I delivered them to Herrickson, a Customs' Officer—20 were in cases, the rest were bales.
Cross-examined by Hayes. The name of the barge was the Clyde—a lighter man was with me—the Victoria Dock was cleared about 2 a.m. on 30th—it is below Greenwich—I left about 10 p.m. on the 29th—we received the last package about 7 p.m.—I was in charge—there is always an officer with dutyable goods.
OWEN DOBSON . I am dock clerk to Messrs. B. Morris & Sons, tobacco manufacturers, Whitechapel, and consignees of 20 cases of tobacco from Rotterdam on board the Teal—this is the weight slip issued by the Dock
Company—the weight of one case was 208 1bs. at 1s. a 1b. when it reached us.
JOHN EDWARDS . I am a tobacco liquorer to Messrs. Morris & Sons—I produce a sample of tobacco found on Cope and another of tobacco entered in my Bought Book, and which we expected to receive—they are the same class.
JAMES ALDRIDGE . I am foreman of the tobacco department in the Victoria Docks—twenty cases of tobacco were landed from the ship Teal at our warehouse, including that marked "G F 32"—it weighed 147lbs.—one of these is a sample—I was present when the case was opened—it looked as if some had been taken out, there was more room.
JOHN THOMAS MACKINS . I am a Customs Officer—I live at Cherston Avenue—on October 25th I was with Thomas Morrell at the Tiger public house—I saw the prisoners in deep conversation together—as soon as they saw me they drank up their beer and walked out—I followed and spoke to them—they were together.
Cross-examined by Cope. I asked you what you were doing—you said, "I must get a living somehow"—Hayes had a parcel, but I did not look in the bag as he told me he was going on board.
Cross-examined by Hayes. I asked you what you had in the bag, not "Have you anything liable to duty"—on people coming off the ship, searching is left to my discretion—we give you the chance of being searched at the Custom House or where you are met.
THOMAS MORRELL . I live at 51, Cecil Road and I am a Custom House Officer—on October 25th I was with Mackins in the Tiger public house—I saw the prisoners having beer and in conversation—when they saw us they drank up their beer and left the house.
Cope, in his defence, said that someone who gave him a job had played him a nasty trick, but that he had nothing to do with the tobacco; he produced a letter from his wife, some letters of character, and his discharges.
Hayes, in his defence, said on oath that he never stole the tobacco and did not know Cope, and that a pilot was sleeping on board.
NOT GUILTY .
MR. WILSON Prosecuted.
DORCAS BARRETT . I am the wife of George Barrett of 77, Marshy Road, Old Kent Road—on October 12th the prisoner who is my sister came to see me—the last time I saw her was eight months ago—she asked me to come and have a drink at the Dun Cow in the Old Kent Road—we had two drinks and came out, she asked me to get into a bus, and we went to the Minories and into a public house there—she began asking about mother who is dead, and I said "Let the dead rest, mother is gone"—she said "That is for you" and that she would take my f——g eye, and she bashed this glass in my face—I was in the hospital a fortnight—I still go there.
Cross-examined by the prisoner. I did not call you a b—rotten w—, nor spit in your face—we were in the company of a gentleman—he gave me 2s. at the Dun Cow—he did not ask me to go with him for an immoral purpose—there was no quarrel except about mother.
ALFRED BERTRAM SALTAN . I am house surgeon at the London Hospital—the prosecutrix was admitted on October 12th—she had a large cut on her left cheek, extending from below her left eye to the lower border of her cheek and over an inch deep—there was a possibility of permanent injury but not now, beyond the disfigurement—it divided the duct, but that has healed—the wound could be made by this tumbler (Produced)—the scar will become whiter but no smaller, you never get rid of a scar which destroys the whole skin.
Prisoner's defence. I have done seven weeks in prison for her, but I would not hurt a hair of her head. If I done it, I done it in drink, I cannot say more, but being in drink, I do not recollect much about it."
GUILTY .— Five months' hard labour.
OLD COURT.—Friday, November 22nd, 1901.
Before Mr. Recorder.
MR. C. F. GILL, K.C., and MR. A. E. GILL Prosecuted, MR. O'CONNOR Defended.
During the progress of the case the prisoner withdrew his plea and PLEADED GUILTY , and the JURY returned a verdict to that effect. Discharged on recognizances.
Before Mr. Recorder.
MR. TODD Prosecuted.
BLANCHE CATHERINE ARNOT . I am single, and live at Gladstone Terrace, Brighton—I used to live at Wallingford, in Surrey, the prisoner was in my service there as general servant—on January 10th I packed a quantity of wearing apparel, and directed the prisoner to send it on to me at Brighton—among the articles were 12 silk blouses, 4 dresses, a dressing-jacket, a velvet train, a shawl, a petticoat, a skirt, two bodices and a quantity of underclothing—I have since seen the property and identified it—it was to be sent by rail—a few days afterwards the box arrived at Brighton, I opened it and it contained only a few old rags. I had not locked it, the property was worth ₤35—in consequence of information I received I charged the prisoner with stealing it—I found that some of the things had been pawned in Leytonstone—I saw the prisoner a few days after I received the box, I did not say anything to her about the loss of my property because I thought it might have been taken by the railway people—before I left Wallingford she had given notice—
did not ask her about the contents of the box.—I did not give or sell any part of the property to her.
Cross-examined by the Prisoner. You were in my mother's service not mine, she is now dead—my uncle did not give you ₤3 10s.—it is not true to say that he would not allow me any money—I did not sell you the clothes for 30s.
By the COURT. The box had a strap round it, her duty was to give it to the railway people to forward to me, it was not directed, the prisoner was to do that—it had a label on it when I got it—I do not know whose writing it was in.
Re-examined. I never gave the prisoner any receipt for any property.
CRAVEN BOURNE . I live at Leytonstone—on January 25th, the prisoner came to my house, she is my wife's step-sister—she brought two boxes with her, the large one was put into the kitchen—she slept in my house that night—after she had gone to bed I examined her box because it was full of a lot of things, and I had a suspicion that she had not come by them honestly—I found it contained some expensive clothes, which I have since identified—she left my house next day taking the box with her—I did not speak to her about the contents of the box—I told her she was to go—on October 8th, she came to my house again—she told me she had that day walked from Fulham Union, she was then living in Leyspring Road, Leytonstone—when she left in January she left two or three pawntickets behind her, and on October 8th, she demanded them—I declined to give them up unless she gave me an address to show that she had come by them honestly—I redeemed this property (Produced) from a pawnbroker, these are what the prisoner could not get into her box in January and she pawned them—I examined the box on the Friday night, and she left on the Saturday, but not till 12 a.m.—these clothes in this other parcel (Produced) I also saw at my place, in January.
Cross-examined. Your husband gave me authority to search your boxes at Brighton—there was no receipt in them then.
GEORGE FRIEND (Detective, J). On October 9th, the prisoner came to Leytonstone police station and complained that the last witness was detaining some pawn-tickets relating to some wearing apparel, her property—I made inquiries—I went to Mr Fish, a pawnbroker, and found some of the articles had been pawned with him on January 25th—when the pawnbroker produced the property the prisoner claimed them, and said that Miss Arnot had given them to her when she had come to stay for two days at Mr Bourne's—on October 16th, Mr Bourne produced some more clothing which Miss Arnot identified—on October 17th, I saw the prisoner in Hervy Road, and told her she would be taken to the station charged with stealing these goods from Miss Arnot instead of packing them in the box to go to Brighton, she said, "I never stole them, Miss Arnot sold them to me for 30s": I said "You told me before, that she had given them to you at Leytonstone," she made no reply but afterwards she said she could prove that Miss Arnot had sold her the things.
B. C. ARNOT (Re-examined). I have never stayed at Mr Bourne's
house, I never went there till October 16th, when I went there to identify the property.
GEORGE GALE . I am manager to Mr. George Fish, a pawnbroker at Leytonstone—I identify two skirts and a jacket as pawned at our place on January 25th, the three pairs of drawers were pawned on February 16th, one set of clothes was pawned in the name of Ann Bourne, and the other in the name of Ann Lovegrove—Miss Arnot has since identified them.
The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate. "I am innocent; she gave me part of the things and the others she sold me for 30s."
The prisoner in her defence said that Miss Arnot sold her the things in the box on January 12th, and she gave her a receipt for them, that on January 18th Miss Arnot wrote to her asking her to send the box on, that she (the prisoner) told her that she had left the house, but would see her guardian, who said he would see about it, and that she pawned the things Miss Arnott had given her on the afternoon of January 25th, so that Mr. Bourne could not have seen them in her box.
NOT GUILTY .
Before Mr. Justice Ridley.
MR. GRANTHAM and MR. ELGEE Prosecuted; MR. MUIR and MR.
The Jury being unable to agree, were discharged, and the trial postponed till next Session.
MR. JENKINS Prosecuted.
PIETRO ASTORI (Interpreted). I work at Hemmingway's Colour Factory, Stratford Marsh, the prisoner formerly worked there, he left about October 3rd—on Saturday, October 5th, I saw him at the Sewer Bridge—he said I owed him 6s., I said "I give it you three times, and you refused it"—he accused me of getting him the sack from Hemmingway's, and said he would pay me out—he put his hands into his pocket—I held him round his back, because I knew he had a revolver, I had my arms round his arms, I cannot say if the lower parts of his arms were free—while I was holding him he pulled out a revolver and shot at me while I was behind him, he missed me, then he got away from me, and I heard a shot across the road, I see Constable Larner being shot on his leg—I went up to the prisoner again then, and held him tight down.
Cross-examined. You did not box me on the head, I boxed you once, there was not another man with me before you pulled out your revolver.
WILLIAM LARNER (290 K). About 2.40 p.m., on October 5th, I was on duty in High Street, Stratford, I heard a report of fire arms about twenty or thirty yards away, near the Two Brewers' public-house—I saw P.C. Manning on the opposite side of the road—
he said "Look up, Bill"—I saw the prisoner in the middle of the roadway with a revolver in his right hand, aiming it at some man, there were several people about—he got on the footway and levelled the revolver at me, I said "Put that thing down," he ran away towards Stratford with the revolver still in his hand—I ran after him and caught hold of his right arm; I struck at his wrist with my truncheon and hit his fore arm and Manning closed on his left side—he did not release the revolver—I was putting my truncheon up to grapple with him when he pointed the revolver at my leg and said, "Shootee"—I had hold of his right arm then with my left hand just below his shoulder—I heard a report and felt I was shot—my trousers were all torn and there was blood on them—the bullet entered my leg just above the knee, it came out just below the knee and re-entered in the calf—I released my hold of the prisoner—I was put into a baker's van and taken to the hospital—I was there for thirty days and am still an attendant there—I did not know the prisoner before this.
By the COURT. He was pointing the revolver downwards.
CHARLES MANNING (414 K ). About 2.30 p.m. on October 5th I was on duty in High Street, Stratford—I saw the prisoner running with a revolver in his hand, several men were running after him—I heard a shot—on seeing me the prisoner ran from one side of the road to the other—I went towards him, he was then pointing the revolver backwards and forwards in front of him—I closed with him on his left side—Larner came up and struck the prisoner on the fore arm with his truncheon—the blow had no effect—he turned his hand towards Larner and said "Shoot," and at the same time fired—the bullet struck Larner in the leg and he limped away—several seconds elapsed between Larner hitting the prisoner with his truncheon and the revolver going off—I took my truncheon out and struck the prisoner on his head with it; he went down on his knees—I tried to pull the revolver away from him, he would not let go so I struck him with my truncheon on the hand and he let the revolver fall—a man named Prigging came up and when the revolver dropped he had hold of the prisoner round the waist—this (Produced) is the revolver, it is a five chambered one—when I picked it up two chambers had been discharged, I fired the other three into the river for safety, owing to the great crowd—I took the prisoner to West Ham police station where he was charged—he was perfectly sober.
By the COURT. I did not see Astori at whom the first shot was fired, that was all before I got there.
CHARLES BUDGE (Inspector, K) In the absence of Larner I charged the prisoner at the police station—the charge and his reply were interpreted to him—he said, "As they were hitting me the revolver went off; I had no intention of injuring the constable"—this is an old-fashioned revolver, it has to be re-cocked between each shot—I think it is of foreign make.
HENRY HAYWARD PRIGGING . I was passing along High Street, Stratford, over the Sewer Bridge, about 2.30 p.m., on Saturday, October 5th, I saw the prisoner and Astori jangling together—I do not know what they were saying; the prisoner had a revolver in his hand and was pointing it at Astori—I tried to knock it out of his hand, and he ran across the road—I did not hear it go off before he ran across the road
—I followed him and shouted, "Stop him! stop him! Look out, he has got a revolver!"—two policemen came to my assistance, and I assisted them in trying to get the revolver away from the prisoner—he said, "I will shoot," and the policeman was shot—the other constable hit him on the top of his head and got the revolver away from him—I do not know if Larner hit the prisoner—when he was shot he called out, "Oh, oh!"—he was taken away in a baker's cart.
Cross-examined. I hit yon on the wrist to knock the revolver out of your hand before you ran across the road.
JAMES MERCHANT WINES . I drive a baker's van, and about 2.30 p.m., on Saturday, October 5th, I was driving along High-street, Stratford—I saw the prisoner run across the road—he turned round with his back to the railings—I saw a flash, I afterwards saw a revolver—I saw Larner draw his truncheon and hit the prisoner on his arm—in the struggle the shot went off, and Larner called out, "I am shot"—Manning crossed at the back of my van and caught hold of the prisoner and struck him with his truncheon—Larner was shot a very few seconds after he had hit the prisoner—part of the prisoner's arm was free when Larner was shot—I took him to the hospital.
PETER MORTIMER TURNBULL . I am house surgeon at West Ham Hospital—Larner was admitted on October 5th, about 3 p.m.—I found a wound 3/4 in. long, 1/2 in. broad, and 4 1/2 ins. above his left knee joint, on the outside of his left leg, the edges were inverted—round the wound there were powder grains tatooed into the skin, particularly in the lower part, making a total measurement of 1 1/2 in. long and 1in. broad, including the powder grains—from the wound there extended a track beneath the skin in a downward, backward, and inward direction for five inches, and ended in the space behind the left knee—where there was another wound, 3/4 in. long and lin. deep—the bullet had evidently come out and gone in again, the edges were inverted—from that wound there extended a second track under the skin, backwards and inwards for 5ins., ending in a third wound a little to the left of the middle line at the back of the leg—the edges were everted, which showed that the bullet had evidently come out there—the lower part of that wound was seven inches below the knee joint—on probing the tracks we found that they were both ragged but neither touched bone—no large blood vessels were injured, but there was considerable oozing of the blood from the wounds—he was in the hospital thirty days I think—the pistol must have been pointed down, and I think the knee must have been bent at the time—I think the bullet was a softish, conical-shaped one.
The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate. "I plead not guilty and reserve my defence, and have no witnesses to call."
The prisoner in his defence said that he did not know the ways of this country, that he had no intention of injuring the policeman, and that the revolver went off quite by accident.
GUILTY on the Second Count . Eighteen months' hard labour.
The Court commended the police for their good behaviour.
Before Mr. Commissioner L. Smith, K.C.
MARIA NEWMAN . I am the wife of Francis Newman, of 159, Star Lane, Canning Town—on October 19th, about 12.50, I was at Stratford Market Station with my husband—we were about to travel to Canning Town—I went to a carriage, but I had to wait for passengers before me, I felt a rush and pressure at my back—I looked and saw the prisoner—as soon as I got into the carriage I put my hand to my pocket and found my purse had gone—my husband told me to come out, and I went into the next carriage and pointed the prisoner out to him—at Canning Town I touched the prisoner on the arm when he came out of the carriage—I told him I wanted him for picking my pocket—he went up the steps to the man who took the tickets and ran out at the left-hand door—my husband called "Stop thief!" and ran after him—I felt my purse in my pocket just before the train came up, and the prisoner was the only man who rushed between my husband and me.
Cross-examined. The platform is narrow—the compartment was full; we had to stand—it was an open carriage—more than two got out—when I put my handkerchief in my pocket I felt my purse there—the dress was not the same as I have on; the pocket was in the side.
FRANCIS NEWMAN . I am the husband of the last witness, and live at 159, Star Lane, Canning Town—I was with her on October 19th at 9.50 at Stratford Market Station waiting for a train—she was waiting for the carriage, I was following behind—the prisoner and a companion rushed between me and my wife—I said "What are pushing about for?"—they made no answer—as the train stopped they left my wife and went into another carriage—they were acting in a suspicious way—they were fumbling for pockets—my wife said "My purse has gone" and I told her to get into the carriage where they were—when they got out my wife said "You look after him, we will get a policeman," and she went and I followed after the prisoner who was caught and brought back.
Cross-examined. The platform is wide—there was not a great number of people for a Saturday night—I was not so anxious to catch the train as my wife—I said nothing.
CHARLES FREDERICK BARNES (Great Eastern Railway Constable.) I was on duty at the top of the stairs at Canning Town Station when Mrs. Newman came up and gave me information—the prisoner came up as she said "I have lost my purse, that man has got it"—the prisoner dashed out of the station and ran down the Victoria Dock Road—I gave chase and caught him—he said "What are you running after me for, I have not got the purse, I know nothing about it"—I said "What are you running away for?"—he said "I do not want to get mixed up with it—Mrs. Newman came up and said "That man has got my purse"—I asked if she would prosecute him—she said "Yes"—I searched him—I did not find the purse, I found a few coppers.
WILLIE SLADE (256 K). About 9.55 p.m on Saturday, October 19th, I was on duty outside Canning Town, I saw the prisoner closely chased by an officer of the Great Eastern Railway—he was stopped in about 200 yards in Victoria Dock Road—he said "I have not stolen any purse, I know nothing whatever about it"—he was asked why he ran away—he said "Because I do not want to be mixed up with them"—he was taken
back to the station and charged, he made no reply—he refused his name and address—afterwards he said his name was Cooper, and that he was a commission agent, but he refused to give any address. GUILTY —He then PLEADED GUILTY to a conviction of felony at Chelmsford on October 20th, 1897, in the name of George Smith. Two other convictions were proved against him, having over a year still to serve. Six months hard labour.
Before Mr. Recorder.
45 EDWARD SMITH (20) PLEADED GUILTY to burglary in the dwelling house of Edward Schneider and stealing a fish slice and fork and other articles, his property, having been convicted of felony at Taunton on January 2nd, 1901.— Eighteen months' hard labour.
Before Mr. Recorder.
MR. C. MATHEWS Prosecuted.
WILLIAM WHITE PARKINSON . I have been the master of the Tanner Street Workhouse, Bermondsey, over thirty-five years—It was open till September 20th, when it was finally closed by order of the guardians—there are no inmates there now, a larger workhouse having been built—while it was open the prisoner was an inmate on many occasions—from 1890, he has been in and out about forty times, he was there last January and twice last August—I am still in charge of the premises—on October 28th between six and seven p.m. I was going from Tanner Street towards Bermondsey New Road, the prisoner came up to me and said, "What have you to say to me, Mr Parkinson"—I said, "I have nothing to say to you, you leave me alone"—I tried to pass him several times but he persisted in getting in front of me—I told him if he did not leave me alone I would call the police—he had assaulted me before and I knew his character, I stepped back facing him, and turned round to call the police when I found a sharp instrument penetrating my shoulder and he said, "Take that you old b——" I sprang to one side and he made another attack on me—some people were in the street but not just there, he had a knife in his hand and he attempted to strike me again—I had an umbrella with which I prevented the knife from hitting me, but the force of the blow knocked the fe✗le off—I hit him on his hand with the umbrella and knocked the knife out of his hand—the other end of the umbrella was knocked off by another blow which I gave him—this is the knife—I have since learnt that it was stolen from a butcher's in the neighbourhood—I knocked the prisoner partly down with my umbrella and then pushed him down—he made a grap at the knife, I got hold of
the handle and he of the blade and I think it cut his fingers—he tried to knock me down, some people came up and tried to take him away—I said no he was not to go away till a policeman came—I took him by the collar and knocked him down and kept him till a policeman came, and handed him over—he had made an assault on January 22nd on me—he was at the lodge gates, I was going to see the Catholic priest who is at the head of my committee, the lodge gates had been locked against him. I went out and he assaulted me, I took proceedings against him and he was sentenced to two months' imprisonment by Mr Paul Taylor, he has uttered threats against me on several occasions before January and after—in April or March he said that he would do for me—he has repeatedly broken rules while in the workhouse, and I have had to send him before a Magistrate—I have only punished him once, but I have repeatedly cautioned him—he has been before a Magistrate to my knowledge nine times for assaulting the inmates.
By the JURY. We have always found him a badly conducted man, there is no particular grievance beyond his natural viciousness.
ALFRED GEORGE BURTON . I am manager to Johnson Cole & Co. tripe dressers of 77, Bermondsey New Road.—on October 28th, I was in the shop about 5.50 p.m., this knife (Produced) was then on the board in front of the shop, it is ours—when I came back from my tea I could not find it, anybody walking along the road could take it.
Cross-examined by the Prisoner. I did not see you at the shop—I was at tea from 6 to 6.30.
FRANK GREY (206 M.) On October 28th, about 6.20, I was stationed at Star Corner near Bermondsey New Road, I saw a crowd and went up and saw the prosecutor holding the prisoner, the prosecutor had a large knife in his right hand, he said in the prisoner's hearing "This prisoner has stabbed me, take him to the station"—I took the prisoner into custody—on the way to the station he endeavoured to get possession of the knife which I had in my left hand; he said "Let me get hold of the knife and I will give him another dig"—he was charged, and in reply said "Thank you very much, it did not occur there, the Guardians cannot get rid of you, I will see if I cannot get rid of you and all your b—clique"—this (Produced) is the prosecutor's coat, he was not bleeding—the distance between Johnson Cole & Co's premises to where I saw the crowd is 300 or 400 yards.
Cross-examined. The prosecutor pulled off his shirt at the station—he had a wound about 1 1/2 in. long and 1/4 in. deep, it would have been deeper except for the bone, the divisional surgeon was sent for.
JAMES EDWARD COLLINS . I am a guardian to St. Oliffe's Union.—I remember the prisoner being discharged from prison after his assault on the prosecutor in January—about the first week in April I met the prisoner in Tooley Street, he asked me if I would give him something for some bread and cheese, I said no, as I had heard he had assaulted Mr. Parkinson, he said, "I will kill the old b—before I am done with him."
WALTER WILLIAM GODFREY STABLES . I am deputy medical officer at the Union, Southwark—on October 28th I examined Mr. Parkinson's wound, it was 1 1/4 in. to 1 1/2 in. in length towards the lower portion of the left
shoulder blade at the back, and about 1/4 in. deep; it has healed now, it could have been inflicted by this knife.
The prisoner, in his defence, said that he was going along Bermondsey Road when the prosecutor came up and hit him on his head, that the prosecutor must have had the knife as he had not got it, and that he (the prisoner) was stabbed in the head with it, and that the only part of the knife he held was the blade, when he was cut on the finger.
GUILTY .—There were eleven convictions of assault against him.— Seven years' penal servitude.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant.
MR. WILKINSON Prosecuted, MR. O'CONNOR Defended.
SAMUEL LEE (Police Sergeant, M). On October 23rd, shortly after 10 p.m., I went to Block 26, Queen's Buildings, Southwark, with Sergeant Knott and Detective Kemp—I knocked at the door but got no answer—I went into the adjoining room and waited—the building is let out in flats—we saw a woman enter, and followed her into the flat, which consists of two rooms, a living room and a bedroom and kitchen combined—the prisoner was in bed in the bedroom—I searched first and saw this tea tray, a quantity of plaster of Paris and two lumps of fresh metal molten—I looked in the oven and found these two portions of a mould, the obverse and reverse sides—I had to wrap my handkerchief round them, they were too hot to hold—there had been a fire in the grate and there were a lot of smouldering ashes; the oven was very hot—I went into the bedroom and saw the prisoner, in bed, and I said that I was a police sergeant and should I take him in custody for having a mould in his possession—he said, "That is all, there is nothing else"—I told him to get up and dress, and I saw him go to a cupboard and hand these things to Sergeant Kemp, a ladle with a quantity of metal in it and half of a molten sixpence of 1901, a complete sixpence of 1901, some chloride of ammonia, some pieces of metal, a bag of plaster of Paris, some antimony, a knife and a spoon which has been used for ladling hot metal—the knife had metal on it—these buildings are opposite the entrance of the Police Court—it is a large model dwelling-house containing about 1000 people—when I told him I should charge him he said, "I knew they were there; I thought I should like to see how they were made, it was a man named Bob who brought them here on Monday; he is the chap that does make them; when he came here he pulled the things out and commenced making them"—this was on Wednesday night at 10.15—I formally charged him a few minutes afterwards, he said nothing—I had been watching him for three days previous, and knew where he lived.
Cross-examined. He has worked at some places—there was no attempt to conceal the articles, only the things in the oven; you do not look into people's evens.
Cross-examined. They were covered over with a sheet of newspaper—we were knocking at the door.
GEORGE WILLIAM WILLIS . I am agent of the National Model Dwelling House Company—Queen's Buildings, Southwark, belong to them—two rooms on 26 B. block have been rented by Alfred Moore—possession was taken about December 24th, at 6s. 6d. a week; that continued till October 23rd.
WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER . I am Inspector of coin to His Majesty's Mint—these are two moulds for a sixpence of 1901—I find a sixpence here, but the mould connected with that is one of 1898—it is impossible to tell the date of this sixpence—this ladle has in it a portion of a sixpence of 1901, which is a failure—there is molten metal on this tray, such as is used for base coin and antimony, and there is some metal on the knife and spoon, and Home plaster of Paris in powder, which is used for making the moulds—the other articles are such as are used by coiners.
Cross-examined. This mould would produce a perfect sixpence.
Re-examined. Whether the mould turns out a good looking coin depends upon the mould and on the maker.
The prisoner, in his defence, stated on oath that he met Ruskin (See last case) in a public-house, who afterwards came to his house and pulled cut a bag of plaster of Paris and began making moulds, which he put in the oven, and said "Do not touch them. I will come back again;" that he came back next morning and put the metal in a ladle, and commenced making money, upon which, he, the prisoner, told him to leave, and was going to throw the things ont at the window, but the police came and found them, and he gave them all the information he could, and he did not know how the things got into the cupboard, and did not know what they were for, till he saw Ruskin use them.
Evidence for the Defence.
JANE MOORE . I am the prisoner's wife—he was unwell the night preceding his arrest—on Monday and Tuesday Bob came to our place; I did not know him before—he brought some materials with him, things which I had never seen before—my husband did not assist in making them, he said that if he was going to do that he must go—he said he would take them away and call again.
Cross-examined. My husband had been unwell for a fortnight before, but he never kept his bed—he had pains in his back, and I went out to the doctor to get some medicine—I cook my food in the gas stove, quite separate from the fireplace—I always keep a fire as well as the gas stove, and had a coal fire there on the Wednesday—I never put things into the oven.
By the COURT. I did not know what Ruskin was making, and did not know what my husband meant.
Evidence in reply.
SOPHIA AMELIA RUSKIN . I have not been in Court during this trial I have been living at 30, Toolesy Street, East Street, Walworth, since my husband was arrested—I know Moore—on Sunday, October 20th, a little
before one in the day, he knocked at my door and I opened it—he said "Is Bob in," and I said "No, he has gone out," he said "You are a b—liar," and forced his way into the room—he asked me for a match, I gave him a whole box of matches—he said "Tell him to come up to where I live at half-past five, tell him I have made two moulds, one is as big as this match-box, and the other is a very small one—he used a bad expression, and said "Don't forget to tell him to come up, you come up with him; and then you will see how I make them, if Bob will come it will help to get him a Councillor, as I have done well with them at Colchester," he then asked me if I would come up to tea, I said "No, we have our tea at 4 o'clock"—he had named 5-30—he asked me to have a drink, I said—"No, I have had a drink of cold water"—he went away, leaving his name as Moore—my husband came home about a quarter of an hour afterwards, I made a statement to him, he went out and was out for about half an hour.
Cross-examined. My husband is a shoemaker—he wanted a Councillor because he had got into trouble about being concerned over a gold chain, another man stole the chain, and he was supposed to be along with him—that was not the first time he has been in trouble—when Moore forced his way into my house I did not call in a constable—my husband called me as a witness before the Magistrate, but I was told to stand down as it did not concern that case—when my husband was taken I did not make a statement, but I made one the next week to a solicitor—I did not make it till he tried to assault my husband the first time.
GUILTY .—A conviction at Wandsworth of larceny was proved against him, twelve months' hard labour. RUSKIN twelve months' hard labour, to run concurrent with his former sentence.
MR. WILKINSON Prosecuted.
THOMAS FARMER . I manage the Globe public-house, Darwin Street, Walworth—on October 24th, about 2.30. p.m., the prisoner came in for half a pint of ale, and handed me a coin similar to this (Produced) in payment, which I found to be bad—I asked him where he got it, and he said from his work—I gave it him back and he paid for the ale with a florin, and I gave him 1s. 6d. in silver and 5d. in bronze in change—I saw him again the same evening at the police station and picked him out from 7 or 8 other men.
WILLIAM COBB . I keep a general shop at 125 Barlow Street—on October 24th, about 2.15 p.m., the prisoner came in and asked for two pennyworth of cheese and 1/2 d. of bread and gave me a bad half-crown—I asked him if he had any more money, and he said he had three half-pence—I saw a constable passing, and slipped through the side door and gave the coin to him—the prisoner said he had received it from his work.
WILLIAM WALTERS (371, L). On October 24th, I was in plain clothes and was called to Cobb's shop, where I found the prisoner detained for uttering a bad half-crown—I said that I should search him—he said
"You will do nothing of the kind unless you show me your authority"—I told him I was a police officer and asked him if he had any other money on him, and he said, "Three half-pence"—I searched him and found 1s. 6d. in silver and 6d. bronze, a reading glass, and this book with entries relating to articles used in the manufacture of counterfeit coin—I told him I should charge him with uttering, and took him to the police station—In reply to the charge he said he had been gambling on a barge, and he supposed he got the coin there—he gave a correct address, but I found nothing there relating to counterfeit coin—Mr. Farmer subsequently came to the station, and picked the prisoner out from 7 or 8 other men.
The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate, after gifting his history for eighteen years, he stated: "On Monday morning I had ₤1 15s. when I started, and remember changing a sovereign to buy a pipe which is at home yet, for sixpence, I remember the change the man gave me as he made the remark, you are well loaded now. When I filled the pipe he gave me six half-crowns, two two-shilling pieces, and sixpence in coppers, and if that is not the direction it came from I cannot conceive any other, as when I drink I lose my memory for days and sometimes for weeks," etc.
Prisoner's defence. I do not remember going from the public-house to the other man's shop. I assume that it was temporary paralysis of the brain. I know nothing about the bad half-crown. I have always worked hard for my living. GUILTY . Ten previous convictions were proved against him.— Six months' hard labour.
Before Mr. Commissioner L. Smith, K.C.
51. FRITZ GERBER (28), and GEORGE WEISE (23), PLEADED GUILTY to burglary in the dwelling-house of Pelham Vernon Young, and Weise to a conviction of felony at Clerkenwell in May, 1896. Three other convictions were proved against Weise, Three years' penal servitude — GERBER Four months' hard labour.
52. JAMES WEST (22), and WM. GILBEY (21) , to breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Gabriel Astoul, and stealing a pair of boots and other articles, and to previous convictions, West on May 8th, 1891, and GILBEY on November 20th, 1895, Another conviction was proved against GILBEY, Four months' hard labour each. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]
ADJOURNED TO MONDAY, DECEMBER 16TH, 1901.