Old Bailey Proceedings, 11th June 1855.
Reference Number: t18550611
Reference Number: f18550611



A star (*) denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars (**) that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk (†) that they are known to be the associates of bad characters.


OLD COURT.—Monday, June 11th, 1855.


Before Mr. Recorder and the First Jury.

Reference Number: t18550611-584

584. LOUISA HARRISSON was indicted for wilful and corrupt perjury.

MESSRS. RYLAND and LOCKE conducted the Prosecution.

SIDNEY SMITH . I am a clerk to the City Solicitor. I produce a certificate of the conviction of diaries Mallett; I got It from Mr. Clark's office.

DANIEL RICHARD HARKER . I am one of the ushers of this Court I was present at the trial of Charles Mallett in this Court, on Wednesday, 20th Dec. last, before Mr. Justice Cresswell—the defendant was examined as a witness on that trial; she was the prosecutrix—I administered the oath to her in the usual way.

ALEXANDER BUCKLER . I am a shorthand writer at this Court I was present at the trial of Charles Mallett, and took down the evidence of Louisa Harrison; I do not remember the person of the defendant—I have here the evidence she gave—it is contained in the Sessions Paper; I have my original notes here—I corrected the press from them; it is correct—(read: "I am the wife of Edward Harrisson, a carpenter; we live at No. 2, Bull Inn yard, Aldgate, right opposite the tap, which shows a light upon our door, and the gas light lights ail over our kitchen; the house consists of a kitchen below, and three rooms over it I occupy all but the middle room, which is occupied by a lodger, Mrs. Blower, a laundress—I have two children, one is fourteen months old, and the other four years—there are two long muslin curtains and a blind to the kitchen window, which looks into the yard, but they are quite thin; anybody can see through them—I assist my husband by taking in dress and mantle making—last Monday week, about half past 6, or a quarter to 7 o'clock in the evening, I was sitting in the parlour, the ground floor room; I had a lamp, and there was also a

good fire which gave some light—I saw a person looking in at the window, as if he was reading my name as dress and mantle maker, which is on a sign board in the window, and directly afterwards I heard a gentle knock at the door; I went to the door, and saw the prisoner with a bundle—he asked if Mrs. Harrisson was in; I said, 'I am Mrs. Harrisson'—he said, 'I have brought you some work from my sister'—I asked him into the parlour to see what work it was he had—I went in and he followed me, and shut the door after him, and the parlour door also—the light was on the table close to the door; he put out the light and said, 'Now I want your money'—I said, 'I have none'—he touched the outside of my dress, and my money jingled in my pocket—I had 1l. 4d. in silver, and 2d. in copper, loose in my pocket—he dragged my pocket out, took all the money out, threw the coppers on the floor, and left them there—he then struck me on the nose, and the blood flew on to the bosom of his shirt; I then fell with my head against the corner of a chair, and then he dragged me across to the other side of the room and struck me at the back of my head with a large stick of my husband's, and left me on the floor unable to speak—then he went to the other end of the room, took two pistols out of his pocket, put them on the table, and said, that if I hallooed out he would kill the baby, which was lying asleep—he cut each end of the line which was hanging in the room, tied my hands together with it, and then dragged me to the other side of the room, jammed me in between two chairs, and left me—the eldest child then began to scream—the prisoner went upstairs, came down again, and the children were then both screaming; he went out of doors; and I saw him look over the short blind as he went by the window—I was then on the floor, unable to make any alarm—my eldest child ran over to the tap, and gave an alarm, upon which two men came to me, and afterwards the police, and a medical gentleman—in the course of that evening I gave a description to the police of the person who had attacked me; and on the following evening I went, at the request of the police, to a penny theatre, about 300 yards from our house—I went into the pit alone, and saw the prisoner standing by the orchestra with a short pipe in his mouth, and the same handkerchief and trowsers as he had on before; it was a white handkerchief with large blue or green spots; I believe blue—I felt quite certain that he was the man, and I feel quite positive now; I went out directly and spoke to the police, and they went in and took him into custody—I had seen him before, on the Wednesday before this happened, that is three weeks to-day; I was coming from the Metropolitan Hospital with my children, and saw the prisoner near the Exchange with some handkerchiefs, which were not new, and one of which he asked me to buy for 1s., then for 10d., and then for 8d.; but in consequence of what a woman who was with me said to me, I did not buy it—I did not stand still, I was going on, and the prisoner followed me—I had an opportunity of observing his features; he was five or ten minutes in my sight on that occasion, and he was ten minutes or a quarter of an hour in my parlour on that night.

Cross-examined by MR. COOPER. Q. Were you very much alarmed and frightened? A. Very much—the two children were in the same room on the sofa asleep—they did not awake till just before the prisoner went out—I tried to scream, but he held my mouth—he was not a minute upstairs; he came down and went out—he had on a cap with braid at the top and a peak to it; it was put on a little on one side—his handkerchief was tied in a knot, and the ends tucked under—he wore a pepper and salt coloured coat—the Exchange is close to the hospital, and about half a mile from my

house; I was carrying one child, and the other was walking—there are a great many men selling almost all kinds of goods about Whitechapel—the street is a market, there are so many people.")

WILLIAM HARVEY . I am waiter at the Bull tap, at the Bull Inn, Ald-gate. On Monday evening, 11th Dec., I was in the tap; it is nearly opposite Mrs. Harrisson's house—Coster, the porter, was also in the tap, and several more—about half past 6, or a quarter to 7 o'clock, Mrs. Harrison's little girl came in and said something about her mother—in consequence of that, I went across, into Harrisson's house, and Coster also—I took a light with me—I went into the parlour—Coster had got in before me—when I got in I saw Mrs. Harrisson sitting on Coster's knee—he was sitting on a chair—she had got her hands tied—she was bleeding from the left temple—she did not appear to be sensible—I undid the rope from her hands—Mr. Cook, the surgeon, and a policeman, came, and I then left her—I did not hear her say anything.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. What were her hands tied with? A. A piece of rope—it was tied in two knots—I untied it with my teeth—it was tied very tight—I did not see her jammed in between two chairs—I was not the first one that went in—the blood was on the side of the temple—I did not notice any blood at the back of her head—I was examined before the Magistrate, and had my deposition read over to me—I did not see any blood at the back of her head, nor did I see her between the two chairs—she was sitting on Coster's lap when I went in—Coster did not tell me in what state he found her; I did not hear him state to anybody how he found her—when I saw her sittingl on Coster's lap she was insensible—she did not appear to me as if she was shamming—it was the prisoner's little girl who came over—she is somewhere about four years old—I had known that child before—she said to me, "Some man has killed my mother, John"—she was at the police court—I did not see her point out any man then—I believe she was considered to be too young to be examined—I know the prisoner's husband—he is a respectable man—I think he is a master carpenter—I think he is master carpenter at Drury-lane Theatre—the prisoner has recently been confined, five or six weeks ago—she must have been in the family way at the time this matter occurred—the little child seemed to be very much frightened and alarmed—the tap is just opposite their house—there is only just room for the bus to go up and down, besides the pavement—I have one child—Mrs. Harrisson's little girl does not play with it—the child goes to school—she seems to be a well-conducted little thing, from what I have seen of her—I have played with it several times, it being a nice little girl—I never heard it tell lies.

COURT. Q. When the child came, you say she 'appeared alarmed? A. Yes; she ran across the yard, very much in a hurry, crying out, "Police!"—she was not crying, but she was hallooing, making a noise—she seemed quite frightened—there were no tears that I saw—I went over in a hurry—I could not notice whether she was crying or not, being rather frightened—I had not heard anything before the child came across—I was sitting down in the tap room—the door opens into the yard—there was not much noise in the tap room, it was all pretty quiet—the tap room window is right opposite Mrs. Harrison's—the width of the yard is only enough for one bus to go up and down, not to turn; it is very narrow; there is just room enough for the bus besides the pavement—Mrs. Harrison's parlour opens into the yard, and the window also—there are no back rooms to the house—I did not hear any scream or any noise—no one told me that she was

jammed between two chairs; I know nothing about that; I think that was the last concern—I was examined at the Mansion House—it is about four feet from the tap room window to the window of Mrs. Harrison's house—there is not room for two busses to pass—the footway is only one flag—I said nothing at the Mansion House about there being blood on the back of her head, or about her being jammed between two chairs—I heard the other witness speak of it—I cannot read or write.

THOMAS COSTER . I am office porter at the Bull Inn, Aldgate. On Monday evening, 11th Dec, I was in the tap room which is in Bull Inn-yard, nearly opposite the prisoners house; with about two steps across, you can get from one door to the other—the Barking omnibus has gone from that office for some years—on this evening, "Barking" was hallooed out, but whether it was the omnibus or the Barking cart I cannot tell—at the time "Barking" was hallooed out, the prisoner's little girl was in the taproom; it was then about half-past 6 o'clock, but I cannot say exactly because the coaches and omnibuses do not start exactly to a moment, but half-past 6 o'clock is the time; it never goes before the time—after the little girl came in, I went over and found Mrs. Harrisson lying on the floor between two chairs, with her wrists tied together, on her back, but not quite flat—she could not assist herself in getting up, but her head was not on the ground—her legs were straight out, and she was on her back, but the chair on the off side could not separate from the other because there was a table there, and she could not get right down on her back—I did not observe whether her back was against anything—I picked her up immediately, and sat her on my lap—I called directly for help, and Harvey came in with a candle; there was a fire in the room—her wrists were tied; I did not observe how far they were apart—Harvey untied them—they were not touching—the knots were on top of the cord to the best of my belief, but I had quite enough to do to take care of her without looking after the cord—I saw blood on the right side of her head, as she lay on my left arm—as soon as I got relieved from her, I went for her husband, Mr. Cook, the surgeon, was there when I went.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLAOTINE. Q. You saw the little child yourself? A. Yes; I did not know her before, no more than walking out with her mother—it is a well-conducted child for what I know—all I have to say is about the mother; I know nothing of the children—I know now that there was one child about four years old and an infant in arms—the child appeared alarmed by the way in which she spoke—she said, "Do come in, there is some man killing my mother;" up I got, went over immediately, called for help, and Harvey came in—I saw Harvey untying the prisoner's hands; he had a difficulty in doing so—I do not think the woman tied them herself—I do not think I could do such a thing; I have not tried—appeared jammed in between the chairs—she was insensible when I went in at first—she never spoke to me at the time I went in—I picked her up, and she did not appear to know who had got hold of her—I am a married man—there was not the least appearance of her shamming.

COURT. Q. Was the child crying when she came to you? A. Yes, but I do not know whether there were tears or not; I cannot tell—she may have been in tears—I do not suppose that the prisoner's wrists were above a couple of inches apart—I do not know how many times the rope was put round—I heard no noise or scream before the child came in—(The rope was here produced by Finnis)—this is the rope; it was a line which hung across the room—it has been cut—it was one when it was taken off.

HENRY FINNIS . I produce two ropes; they were both tied round her wrists—they are just as I received them from Harvey—I cannot account for it being in two pieces.

WILLIAM HARVEY re-examined. I only saw one rope—I did not cut it—I did not notice whether it was in one or two when I gave it to the policeman.

JURY to THOMAS COSTER. Q. Was it round the two wrists, or was it in a figure of "8"? A. After it went round the wrists, it went between the two wrists again.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Round each wrist first, and then put between the two? A. Yes, it went round one wrist, and then went over through the centre—I cannot tie it as it was, because I did not untie it.

WILLIAM HARVEY re-examined. It was like handcuffs, and was like this (tying it on the wrists of the crier of the Court)—I cannot remember whether there was one piece or two.

EMMA FERGUSON . I am cook at the Bull Inn, Aldgate. On Monday evening, 11th Dec, I was in an upstairs room there, which is opposite Harrisson's house—there were a great many people in the yard, outside Harrisson's house, and I heard a great talking—I ran down directly, and as I went down it was 20 minutes to 7 o'clock by the clock on the stairs—I went over to Harrisson's house, went in directly and found in the parlour, Coster, the porter, from the office, Harvey, and Mrs. Harrisson, who was lying in Coster's arms—she appeared to be not quite conscious at the time I went in—Harvey was beginning to untie her hands, and I helped to untie them—I asked her where her husband was, and after a little time she said that he was at the Garrick Theatre, and I sent for him—this was at the time we were untying her hands—she was bleeding from her nose and the side of her face, and she had a scratch on her forehead—her hands were tied about four or five inches apart—Harvey had loosened the knot when I went in, but it was tied in the middle—that might have loosened it—shortly after this a policeman named Little came, and I heard him ask her what had happened—I heard what she told him, she was sensible then—after a time her husband came; he seemed very much excited, and said, "Oh dear, the man could not tell me;" that was the man that went for him—I told him what she had said; she had told Little that a man had come to the door and knocked, and asked if Mrs. Harrisson was at home, as he had some work from his sister; that she said that she was Mrs. Harrisson, and he asked her for her money; that she said that she had none, and he cut her pocket, and took the money—I repeated all that to her husband, and he said, "She told me at tea time she was sure something would happen before night, for she had had a dreadful dream"—she must have heard that—and I heard her say the same, she repeated it after her husband said so—after Mr. Cook, the surgeon, came, I stayed some time with her, and assisted in getting her on to the sofa, and sent Coster for her husband.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. When was it that she said that she had had a terrible dream? A.' She did not say when she had had it; I heard her say so several times after the occurrence—when I went in she was recovering from insensibility; she did not appear conscious when I went in, but she soon became conscious; when Dr. Cook arrived she fainted again—I saw her in convulsions, it was as much as I could do to hold her, and her husband besides—I have no doubt of it being real, 1 do not think any one could have put it on.

COURT. Q. How soon was it after you went into the room that she began

to tell the story of what had happened to her? A. About five minutes, a very short time—her cheeks and lips were very pale—her nose seemed still to appear bleeding—Mr. Cook and I washed the blood off, and it still kept bleeding.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. I believe you remained with her during the night? A. No; I went several times during the evening, but did not remain—I did not hear her cry, "Murder!" or, "Police!" or speak while she was in convulsions, her teeth seemed quite set fast—her husband only said that she had told him at tea time that she was sure something would happen as she had had a terrible dream, and then he went round with the people in the house to search the house to see if there was anybody in it.

COURT. Q. What state were her clothes in? A. She had blood on the left side of her dress, not a great deal; it might have come from her nose, it looked as if it had been streaming down her nose—I saw her next day, and she had a scratch on her forehead, which festered afterwards—there was no bruise—the surgeon attended her beyond that day—the blood came from the inside of her nose.

JOHN HENRY COOK . I am a surgeon of No. 140, Minories. On Wednesday, 11th Dec, in consequence of information, I went to No. 2, Bull Inn yard, between half past 6 and 7 o'clock, I found Mrs. Harrisson sitting on a man's lap, insensible and unable to speak—there was no candle, the room was lighted by the fire—a candle was brought, and she was then removed to the sofa—she was bleeding from the nose, and there were two abrasions on her right temple, and a contused wound on the back of her head—it was as if the temple had been rubbed against something rough—I bathed her face with vinegar and water, and as soon as she came to herself I gave her a little brandy and water, washed the blood from her nose, and sponged the abrasions and the wound on the back of the head with warm water—the wounds might have been made by herself.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Are you the gentleman who was examined on the part of the prosecution on the former occasion, when this young woman was a witness and the person was convicted? A. I am—I did not on that occasion say that the wounds might have been made by herself—the question was not asked me—I have been asked the question now for the first time—I was asked it at the Mansion House; when I say the first time, I mean since this case has been investigated—I think it is quite competent for anybody to strike the head against any hard substance—it was a contused wound—there was blood from it—there was an abrasion of the skin, and a contusion all around it—I might myself knock my head against a desk, and it might produce a contused wound; I think it might have been done in that way—I have never met with such an instance—the idea of her doing it herself, never occurred to me till the second case—I now say that such a thing is possible—I have been out of Court to-day but I have heard of the mode in which the prisoner's hands were supposed to have been tied—assuming all those facts to be true, it would have been impossible for her to have inflicted that blow; if she did, she must have done it first and tied her hands afterwards—no place was pointed out against which she could have knocked her head—a stick was produced on the last trial with some blood on it—it was also produced on the same night at the house—it is possible that she could have inflicted the wound herself with the stick at the back of her head, but I should think it improbable—I attended her during the evening up till 12 o'clock—she was in the family way, about

three months gone, she told me—she had a convulsive fit which lasted about five minutes—a doctor cannot be done by a sham convulsive fit, if he knows his business, and I know mine—it was some time after I came in before she became sensible—she recovered gradually—she gave those evidences of confusion which always attend fits—she looked round—a practised surgeon cannot be taken in.

COURT. Q. The pulse is the best indication, is not it? A. Yes, and she was almost pulseless for half an hour, from the time I came in and found her in a fainting state—I got there about a quarter to 7 o'clock, and five minutes after I arrived I had her removed to the sofa.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. The blood was actually flowing from the back of her head when you saw her? A. Not flowing, but it was a contused wound, and had a small quantity of blood on the surface—blood was flowing profusely from her nose—I observed no blood in any part of the room—her nose must have been struck before her hands were tied.

Q. Is there any other mode of making the nose bleed? A. Yes, but I perceived a bruise next rooming between the top of the nose and the bridge—if she did it herself she must have done it previous to her hands being tied, I should consider—I saw no blood elsewhere—it does not follow that the blood would have spirted—I saw no blood on her hands—I can only tell from what she told me, whether the child had quickened or not—some quicken at four months, and some at four months and a half—taking her condition into consideration, an attack of this kind would be likely to produce a great effect upon her system—I should consider that she is not a person of an hysterical temperament—I never saw her before—supposing an attack of this kind occurred it would most probably affect the nervous system.

Q. Taking that in connection with the action of pregnancy going on, might it have been very likely to produce hallucination? A. I never had a case of that kind occur in my practice—it is sometimes the case under the ordinary circumstances of pregnancy that we find a woman excited, and not under that mental control which she is under when perfectly well, but it is not necessarily so—when you once get a diseased action on the nervous system it is very difficult to know what it will lead to.

MR. LOCKE. Q. When you were called into this house were your suspicions excited in any way as to whether it was a true case? A. No—by the second case I mean the occurrence which took place on 8th Jan., about a month afterwards—I heard that case investigated at the Mansion House—I first formed the opinion that it might have been done by herself on 8th Jan., the evening I was called to her at the Bull Inn yard the second time—she could not have inflicted that injury to the back of her head with her hands, if they were tied, but she could have done it by striking her head against something, the edge of any place—the corner of a mantel piece would have occasioned it, and if she had struck her nose against a place of that sort that would have occasioned the injury I saw on her nose.

COURT. Q. Would it be easy for a woman voluntarily to do it? A. No, it would require considerable force; but sometimes the nose bleeds violently with small blows—there was a small circular bruise on her nose sufficient to indicate a blow which would produce bleeding—I think it possible for the nose to bleed from an external blow which leaves no mark or bruise, for instance, a side blow—it is quite possible to produce bleeding by scratching some small vessel on the inside, but the whole mucous membrane was very

much congested with blood, just as it would have been if the nose externally had received a blow, and that, together with the small bruise, led me to the conclusion that it was the effect of a blow—she was in a fainting state when I first entered, and almost pulseless.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. You saw a stick on the trial? A. Yes; I was asked whether that sort of instrument might have inflicted the blow at the back of the head, and I expressed my undoubted opinion that it would—it was a blow of considerable severity.

COURT. Q. If a person had been in convulsions, and had fallen among furniture, would that account for the blow and the wounds? A. Not for the whole of them—the state of fainting and convulsions might, in the condition she was in, have been occasioned, if she had made these injuries on herself—they were serious injuries; violent injuries—sometimes a blow on the head will have a great effect on the constitution, and would be more likely to have the effect if inflicted against the will than by the party, because of the circumstance of terror.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Would it have been immediate? A. Yes—she could not have tied her hands afterwards while in convulsions—the injuries could not have been inflicted with her hands fastened, but she could have given herself a blow on the head with her hands tied.

JAMES DAWKINS LITTLE (City policeman. 645). On Monday evening; 11th Dec, in consequence of information that I received, I went to Harrisson's house, No. 2, Bull Inn yard—I got there between 6 and 7 o'clock; it was nearer 7 than half past 6 o'clock—it might have been about twenty minutes or a quarter to 7, or it might have been a little later—I found Mrs. Harrisson there—she was sitting on Coster's knee, on a chair—I spoke to her, and she made no answer; she appeared not to be sensible—she was bleeding from the nose, and a man was untying her hands—I spoke to her again, and asked her who had done it—she told me "A man"—she afterwards described that man to me—it was partly from that description that I apprehended Mallett—her hands appeared to be tied about the width of our handcuffs apart, something like two or three inches apart—Mrs. Fergusson, the cook, was there while I was there—I believe she heard what was said—I searched the house afterwards; I picked up a large walking stick on the floor of the parlour where I found her sitting—I have not got it here; it was produced at the former trial, and when the trial was over I gave it to Mr. Harrisson, he owned it—I searched the whole of the house, up stairs and down—I found nobody there—the husband was sent for and came, he seemed excited—I picked up four halfpence from the parlour floor—they were given to the husband—he said that his wife had told him when he went out that she had had a nasty dream last night, and she feared there would be something happen before night.

Cross-examined. Q. You have never said anything about the dream before, have you? A. I was never asked before—I was examined on the former trial; I never said anything then about the dream—I assisted in apprehending Mallett—the prisoner pointed him out—I did not take her to find him—I did not take her to the penny theatre—from the description Mrs. Harrisson gave of the person, I went along with Finnis, a brother officer, to Whitechapel, with Mrs. Harrisson; I was down Whitechapel; I met Finnis there—I did not know that I was going to see Mallett—I went there to look after the man—it was not from her description that I went there; I was along with Finnis—it was in consequence of the description that she gave that I went—I do not exactly understand—I went along with

my brother officer to look down Whitechapel, to look after the prisoner—the description that Mrs. Harrisson gave of the man induced me to do so—she had described Mallett, not by name—I went there for the purpose of finding the man she described—I did not know he was there until I was told—I went down to meet Finnis, and Mrs. Harrisson was along with him at the time—I met Finnis there—I went into the play along with Finnis—I met him close by Commercial-street—I went to look for Mallett; I did not know him before—Mrs. Harrisson went in—I did not know that we were going to look for Mallett, only from her description—I went to see if there was any person there who answered that description—I did not know who I was going to look for—he answered the description—he had on the very sort of handkerchief that she had described to me—she had described that to me before she saw him—it was a penny theatre that I found him in, in High-street, Whitechapel—I do not know whether it in a place filled with thieves and prostitutes, it is Out of the City; we keep them out of the City as much as we can—there was one penny theatre in the City, but it is done away with now; that was not because it was respectable—I believe they are about the worst places in London.

COURT. Q. When she gave you a description of the man, had you any-body in your mind? A. No, I had not—I did not think the description was like somebody I knew—Finnis sent for her, merely to look in; I believe she paid a penny to go in and see if there was anybody there that she knew.

HENRY FINNIS (City policeman. 633). I took Mallett into custody on 12th Dec., about 9 o'clock in the evening, at a penny theatre, in White-chapel—I went there with Little—I met with Little in Whitechapel—I was then in company with Mr. Harrisson—Mrs. Harrisson came afterwards—I sent her husband after her, and he brought her—I and Little went down with her to the penny theatre—she went in by herself, and came out again and said that the man was there that had assaulted and robbed her—I and little then went in with her, and she pointed out Mallett; he was in front of the performance—he appeared to be engaged there in keeping order—he was merely standing near the orchestra—I took him to the station, searched him, and found on him 7s. 0 1/2 d. in money, a knife, and a key—he gave his address No. 19, Rutland-street, Cannon-street-road—I, found that that was a correct address—his father lived there—I told him he was charged with assaulting and robbing Mrs. Harrisson, of the Bull Inn, Aldgate—Mrs. Harrisson was there when he was charged—he said, "I know nothing at all about it; I will go anywhere with you."

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. I may take it that it was by your desire she went to the theatre, was it not? A. Yes; she had given me a description of the person who she alleged had robbed her, and I told her I thought I had seen a person who answered that description—she had previously told me that she had seen the man at that theatre who had. robbed and assaulted her, before I went there at all—she said she had seen him before in front of the theatre—I did not mention that before; I did not think it of any importance—she went to the theatre on this night in consequence of my sending for her, and telling her I had seen a man there answering the description she gave—I walked with her to the theatre—before she went in I told her I had seen a man there answering the description—she had described the handkerchief to me; he had a handkerchief of that kind on.

COURT. Q. Did she tell you before you went to the theatre that she had seen the man who assaulted her in front of the theatre? A. Yes, at some

former time—in consequence of that and her description, I went to the theatre—I did not go into the theatre until I went in with Mrs. Harrisson—I had seen the man before walking in front of the theatre, and thought he answered the description—I then sent for her, and sent her in to look—she came out and said she had seen the man, and I went in with her and took him—she did not say when she had seen him in front of the theatre I had never seen the man before to my knowledge.

CHARLES MALLETT . My real name is Simon Marriott—I have a brother named Jonathan Marriott—down to the time when I was taken into custody on Mrs. Harrisson's charge, I lived at No. 19, Old Rutland-street, Cannon-street-road, with my father and mother—I was getting my living at the penny playhouse, keeping order of a night, and likewise when I got a job at any of the docks I went to it—on Monday, 11th, and Tuesday, 12th Dec., I was employed at this penny theatre—I used generally to get there at 5 or half-past 5 o'clock, and staid till about 11 or half-past 11 o'clock—on Monday, 11th, I was at the theatre from a quarter past 6 up to 11 or after 11 o'clock—I came out twice to victuals—on the Tuesday evening, I was taken into custody in the theatre on Mrs. Harrisson's charge—I was committed on that charge, and tried in this Court on 20th Dec—I was found guilty, and judgment of death recorded against me—that sentence was altered to fifteen years transportation—upon my trial, the defendant, Louisa Harrisson, gave evidence against me—I have since received a free pardon, and have been entirely at liberty—I do not know the Bull Inn-yard, at Aldgate—I know it now since the trial; I did not know it before—I did not know it before Monday, 11th Dec, and had never been in it or seen it—though I have walked by it, I took no notice—I was not there on Monday, 11th Dec.—I first saw Mrs. Harrisson on the Tuesday night that I was taken to the station house, and I said she was mistaken—to my knowledge I had never seen her or known her before that Tuesday evening—I remember what she swore against me at my trial-there was no truth in it; I am quite innocent of it—on or about 6th Dec., I had no handkerchiefs to sell—I never tried to sell any handkerchief to her or any other person—sometimes I went to Billingsgate market to try to get work there, and sometimes I went to the docks—if I could not get work at the docks, I went to Billingsgate market; if I could not get it there I was at home till 4 or 5 o'clock in the afternoon, and sometimes I might be at the playhouse in the day, helping them to put the scenes up, if I had not got any other engagement—there is a shop in front of the theatre that the people must go through, in order to get to the theatre—in the course of the day I sometimes sit in that shop, when I have no other employment—I could be seen there by anybody passing along White-chapel—my duty at the theatre is to set the people down in their seats, and keep order—I was at the playhouse from 3 o'clock on the Monday afternoon—I stopped in the shop for a few minutes—a young man of the name of Tomlinson came to me and asked me if I would take a walk with him; that was a little time after I had been there—I said, yes, I would—I took a walk down the Mile End-road with Tomlinson—we got back as near as I could judge about half-past 4 o'clock, because we went after his clothes at a coffee shop in the new street near Leman-street—we then went back to the shop in front of the theatre; we got back about half-past 4 o'clock—we went to the theatre about 5 or a quarter past 5 o'clock—he thenreturned to his tea—I afterwards went into the Red Lion and Spread Eagle; that was about a quarter to 6 o'clock—I went in first alone—I saw

several persons there—I cannot now recollect who they were—I saw the barman there; that was at a quarter after 6 o'clock—I cannot tell you his name—I staid there about five or six minutes—I did not notice the time exactly; I noticed the clock, and I observed to the barman that it was late, and I hurried away to the theatre—the theatre begins about half-past 6 o'clock, sometimes rather later—I got there before I was wanted—we generally open at a quarter or half-past 6 o'clock, and we light up directly—the performance begins about a quarter to 7 o'clock—I was by the orchestra; that is my usual place—I came out of the theatre again about five minutes to 7 o'clock, with a young man named Lawrence—we went into the Bed Lion and Spread Eagle, and had a glass of shrub and water—I staid there about three or four minutes—I then returned along with Lawrence into the playhouse again, and I staid till the performance came to an end; that was a little after 8 o'clock as near as I can judge—on the day I was taken into custody, I had on a white handkerchief, with spots on it; they were rather bluish spots and rather big ones—I had bought that handkerchief on the Sunday morning previous—I did not wear it on the Monday—I had it on the Tuesday—I had 7s. 0d. on me when I wastaken into custody—I get sometimes 1., sometimes 18d. a night, at the theatre—I got the 7s. 0d. by a benefit which I had taken on the Tuesday before, with another young man named Wood who was engaged there—I got a few shillings by it—I was never taken up on any charge before this—I was never at a police court before—I have never been discharged from any place for misconduct.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. How long have you been out of gaol? A. As near as I can judge, between three and four months—I think I came out in March—I have been doing nothing since that—I have been trying to get work—I have been living on my father's income—he is a householder—I have been living on him—he was not supporting me before this—he knew of my engagement at the theatre—since I have come out of gaol he has been supporting me as well as he could—when I am at home what little there is I take a share of—I am supported out of my father's income—he has two small houses—I have been living entirely on my father since March—I have had nothing to do myself—I have been allowed a little from the Mansion House since 1 came out of prison—I received half a sovereign on the first Tuesday I came out, and 5s. a week since—I have not been as well off as when I was working for the penny theatre—I have got nothing from my father, only living with him as much as he could afford me—I do not say I have got all my living there—I have been entirely living on him since March—the 5s. a week goes a little towards helping to keep me—I give the money to my father as soon as I get it—I swear that—I give him the whole—I did not give him the 10s.—I have given him the 5s. every week—he is not here—if he likes to give me 1. in the course of the week that has nothing to do with it—he often gives me 1s.—he gives me one when he pleases, or 6d.—I have not got back much of the money in that way—very little money suits me—my father does not do any work—he is fifty-five or fifty-six years of age—he lives at No. 19, Old Rutland-street, Cannon-street-road, St. George's-in-the-East—I have a sister—she is not here—she is at work—she is twenty-one years of age—I cannot tell exactly where she works, it is at a warehouse somewhere in Houndsditch—I cannot tell the name—I have another sister, thirty-six years of age—she is in Kentish-town—she is married, and has six children—I have never been in any disagreeable predicament about bad money—I

have never been here before, except when sentence of death was recorded against me—I was never in this Court before, or in any police court—it was the landlady of the theatre who used to pay me—she goes in the name of Mrs. Roe—I do not know whether that is her name or not—I saw her here this morning—I have been talking to her a little, but not about this affair, not a word, that I swear—she generally paid me, sometimes the master paid me—they used both to be together—my real name is Simon Marriott—I can tell you why I gave the name of Charles Mallett; I have been a bad character, a fighting man, and I have been in that name so that my friends should not find me out—I have been a fighting man a little—I have now and then been a prize fighter, not very often—I never fought in a twenty-five feet ring—I get as far round as I can—I mean, to run away, that is, when the other one is meant to win—when I want the other one to win I run away—I went in the name of Charles Mallett—I called myself Charles Mallett because I would not disgrace my friends—my father did not know that I went by that name to my knowledge, but he did know it—two detectives came to my father's house on the night I was taken in charge—I gave the name of Charles Mallett to the police—I have gone by that name for two or three years—before that I had gone by my own name—1 stated what my real name was at the Mansion House—my brother exposed it—Mallett was quite name enough—anybody could see that was not my own name if they went to my father, everybody knew that his name was Marriott—I took the name of Mallett two or three years ago—it was for the purpose of fighting rather a small battle—it was not exactly so—I happened to get into a row in Whitechapel by falling out with a certain party, and two or three men gave me that name, and I have gone by it ever since—I cannot tell you why I was called Mallett for that—I only know that two or three happened to be there, and one word went to another, and they gave me that name—I suppose I stack to it because it was a more respectable name for a prize fighter—I cannot recollect what the little bit of a row was about, it is so long ago—it had nothing to do with anybody's pocket, I will defy anybody to say that—I do not recollect anything about it—I forget it—I did not give anybody a black eye or a bloody nose, nor did anybody give me one—I do not know what the row was about—it was a bit of a row through being the worse for liquor—I suppose the row was between me and another party—I do not know, I forget all about it—I believe the police have the handkerchief which I had on when I was taken into custody—I bought it on the Sunday morning before I was taken in charge, just in Houndsditch, leading into Petticoat-lane—I gave 1s. 3d. for it—I did not wear it on the Monday at all, I am quite sure about that—I did not wear it on the Sunday, I wore it on the Tuesday—they called me the officer at the theatre—I kept order there—I gave up prize fighting a little while ago, six or seven months ago—I know Edward Brown, the barman at Mr. Phillips'—he was called as a witness on the last occasion—we are not intimate, merely by going into the public house—I used to call him Edward—I do not know his other name—I have been about the neighbourhood of Whitechapel for two or three years—I never knew the Bull Inn, Aldgate—I declare to God Almighty in heaven I never knew where the Bull Inn-yard was, nor yet the Bull Inn—I cannot tell you howfar it is from the theatre—I know it now, it is five or six minutes' walk, as near as I can say—I swear that I never knew the Bull Inn for the two years and a half I was about Whitechapel, and no one ever saw we in the yard—I can swear I never knew it.

JOSEPH TOMLINSON . I am a dancer, and live in Mansion House-street, Kennington-lane. On Monday, 11th Dec, I was at this theatre in Whitechapel-road—I was not engaged there that evening, I was engaged at Mr. Pollard's wax works, next door, but I was in the theatre that evening—I have known Mallett for eight or nine months now—I saw him that after noon, as near as I can recollect, about 5 o'clock, in his own theatre, the exhi bition in Whitechapel—they were taking likenesses there in the day time, and I went there about 3 o'clock in the afternoon, and saw Mr. Mallett there—a young man had his likeness taken, and left 6d. for us to have some thing to drink—we went to Mr; Leveson's, I do not know the. sign, to have a pot of beer with Mallett, and two other parties who I do not know—we only stopped there a few minutes; I returned to the exhibition, as near as I can recollect, about 5 o'clock—I left at a few minutes after 5 o'clock, and told Mr. Mallett that I had left some things in the exhibition; he said, "We will take a walk, and call for them"—I took a walk with him to a turning opposite Leman-street, and we got back about a quarter or twenty minutes past 5 o'clock—it is not above forty or fifty yards from the exhibit tion—we went into the exhibition, as Mr. Mallett said, "It is so cold, we will not go further"—he went down by the fire, and I left him to go and have my tea, about 20 minutes past 5—I had my tea, and entered the exhi bition again when it opened, from 20 minutes to a quarter to 7 o'clock, and found Mallett standing by the orchestra—I do not know whether they had commenced, the music was playing—I was smoking a short pipe, Mallett told me that I ought to know better, and I took it out of my month—I went under the stage to the dressing room, returned again about 5 minutes after 7 o'clock, and saw Mallett on the stage; they were giving laughing gas, and he was holding the people that took it—I saw him again at a little after 10 o'clock, before I went home.

Cross-examined. Q. What did you say you were? A. A dancer; I dance in clogs; I am the Lancashire clog hornpipe dancer—it is after the style of the country peasant—I am a Londoner—Tomlinson is my real name, but I go in the name of Thompson at theatres, and at the most respectable concert rooms in London—I have known Mallett by no other name; I was never at his father's house.

MR. LOCKE. Q. Have you a theatrical name and a real name? A. Yes; some of the greatest performers do not go by their real names.

WILLIAM LAWRENOE . I am a sign painter and comic singer, and live at No. 15, Great Duke-street, Westminster-road. In Dec last I was manager of this penny theatre in Whitedhapel I knew Mallett before, and at that time—he was engaged there as an officer two or three months previous to Monday, 11th Dec.—on that evening I arrived there later than usual; I got there about half past 6 o'clock, and found Mallett there; he accompanied me to light the gas, which it was his duty to do—I only remained in the theatre time sufficient to light the gas, the overture was played by the band, and we proceeded to sing a chorus—the chorus was over, as near as I can remember, about 10 minutes or a quarter to 7 o'clock; I then went with Mallett into the Lion and Spread Eagle, Mr. Phillips's, and had a glassof shrub and water; it was then, to the best of my recollection, about 5 minutes to 7 o'clock—I then returned to the theatre, but did not go in; I stood talking to the money taker, the mistress; she was some distance from the theatre—I went into the theatre about ten minutes afterwards (it was my business to look after those, who were behind—Mallett went in ahead of me; I followed, and found him standing by the orchestra; that is his usual place for standing

—I remained in the theatre until the first performance was over, and saw Mallett from time to time; it might have been 8 or half past 8 o'clock—it was his duty to be there to keep order; he was engaged solely for that purpose.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Do you know that handkerchief (the one produced on Mallet's trial)? A. I saw a similar one to it on Mallett's neck on the night in question; I am confident of that.

COURT. Q. On the Monday night? A. Yes; and on the night he was taken into custody he had it on too.

ELIZABETH LAKEMAN . I am a widow, and live at No. 6, Louisa-square, Philip-street, Kingsland-road. In Dec. last I kept this theatre in Whitechapel-road, and was money taker there—I know Mallett; on the night of 1 lth Dec he was employed at the theatre to keep order—I went there that night at 25 minutes to 5, I think, or 25 minutes after 5 o'clock; it is such a long while ago I cannot remember—when I got there Mallett was there, sitting down in the shop; the theatre is at the back of the shop, you go through the shop into it—I went there to take the money; the doors open about 6 o'clock, and we commence at about half past 6—I saw Mallett go into the theatre, he was there all the evening—when the theatre opened, it was his place to keep order, and he used to assist to light the gas, and do anything that was required of him—I believe he did that on 11th—I saw him during the whole of that evening.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Are you quite certain about your own name? A. Yes, I think so; I have been a wife since 1810, but have no husband now—I never went by any other name, but they chose to call me a name, because they did not know my right name—they call me Mrs. Roe—it is my nephew who the theatre belongs to, and they thought I was his mother.

COURT. Q. Was it a panorama, or plays? A. The panorama was from Plymouth Sound to the gold diggings.

MR. BALLANTINE to JOSEPH TOMLINSON. Q. Look at that handkerchief; is that the handkerchief your Mend bought on Sunday? A. It was a handkerchief like this, and I was about to buy one like it myself—I cannot swear that this is it, because there were dozens like it—on the night in question he wore a white scarf, with a similar spot—I have not heard Lawrence swear he wore it on Monday, but on Mallett's trial I said that I believed he wore a scarf with a similar spot—this is like the one he bought on Sunday.

SAMUEL WOOD . I am a clog dancer; that is my real name. On Monday, 11th Dec., I had an engagement at this theatre in Whitechapel, and went there at a quarter past 6 o'clock in the evening—I had known Mallett before that evening, and when I got to the theatre I saw him reading a book at the door—I was not going to perform that evening—it was not open, and I went into the waiting room, and, after waiting some time, I went in—it was then about a quarter to 7 o'clock, and I saw him then—as we were on the stage, he was in front, doing his business, keeping people quiet.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. You were on the last trial? A. No—I represent a country peasant—sometimes the theatre is full, and sometimes it is not; and sometimes it is a respectable audience, and sometimes not—those who are respectable do not soon cease to be so; they are kept up stairs.

EDWARD LUDOVICK BIORN . My parents are Norwegian; I do not go by

any other name; I am barman to Mr. Phillips, of the Red Lion and Spread Eagle, No. 94, High-street, Whitechapel, two doors from this theatre. On Monday evening, 11th Dec., about a quarter to 6 o'clock, Mallett came and had some ale—(I had known him some time before that)—he made a remark about being late—I went out, and left the bar—he hit me across the back with a cane which he had in his hand—I asked him what he did that for, and he ran into the penny theatre; that makes me remember it—I saw him again that eveing, with Lawrence, about 5 or 10 minutes before 7 o'clock—they had shrub and water when they came in.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Do you know the Bull Inn, Aldgate? A. Yes; I suppose almost everybody does.

PETERRITA. I am English; that is my real name; I live in Orange-street, Bethnal-green-road, and am a violin player and French polisher—in Dec. last I was engaged to play the violin at Mrs. Lakeman's theatre—I know Charles Mallett—I played at the theatre, and saw him there on Monday evening, 11th Dec.—I first saw him between 5 minutes to 6 and 6 o'clock, in the public house, two doors from the theatre—I do not know the sign; it is Mr. Phillips's—I had occasion to go there for my violin, which I had left there in the afternoon—I went with it to the theatre, and began to play as soon as I got the instrument right—about a quarter past 6 o'clock Mallett came into the, theatre, and passed inside, to the waiting room—I used to play near the door—I saw him next about a quarter to 7 o'clock, when I went to play in the orchestra—he remained about five or ten minutes, while the chorus was on—the laughing gas was performed that night, but it is so long ago I cannot recollect the time—he went out when the chorus was over—I do not recollect whether he came back.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE Q. Your memory is not very perfect? A. No—I was examined here on Mallett's trial—my name is not Reader, but Rita—I do nothing on the stage; I play in the orchestra; I lead it.

COURT. Q. Did you see him on the stage that night? A. I cannot remember—he always went on with the laughing gas, to hold the people; he generally held them, but whether he did on that night I cannot recollect.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. You say, "On this Monday night I saw him first at 10 minutes past 7 o'clock;" is that true? A. No.

JONATHAN MARRIOTT . I am the brother of Charles Mallett, and live with my father, at No. 19, Old Rutland-street, Commercial-road East My brother has been living there lately, since his pardon—I never saw Louisa Harrisson in my life till I saw her at the Mansion House, on 13th Dec. last.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. What is your brother? A. A fishmonger—I do not know how long he has been so; he has been all sorts, the same as myself—I am not a prize fighter—my brother has worked at the docks—I cannot say whether he has been a prize fighter; I have never heard that he has, up to this moment—he went by the name of Charles Mallett before he got out of prison—that is not my name—I did not know what name he went in, or that he went by the name of Charles Mallett at my father's house—he has been living with his father since he came out—his father has supported him; I cannot say whether he has done so entirely—I do not know whether he has had anything else—I never heard that he has paid my father anything—I do not know how it happened that he got the name of Charles Mallett.


(There was another indictment against the prisoner; fir which see New Court, Friday.)

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585. JEREMIAH CALDAN , stealing a watch, chain, and key, value 10L; the goods of Henry William Baxter, from his person.

MR. SLEIGH conducted the Prosecution.

HENRY WILLIAM BAXTER . I am a master mariner, and live at No. 96; Leman-street, Whitechapel On the evening of 14th May, about a quarter to 7 o'clock, I was walking along Leadenhall-street with my wife—I had in my pocket a silver watch with a gold Albert chain; I had seen it safe about five minutes before missing it—as I was walking along I felt something touch my pocket, and felt the watch go away—I immediately turned and found the prisoner alongside of me on the pavement—I took hold of him by the collar, and told him he had taken my watch—he denied it—there were severalpersons by him in the street, but none connected with him that I could see—I told him a second time that he had taken my watch; he said, "I have not"—Mr. Bevan came from the opposite side of the road, and the prisoner then put the watch into my left hand—he said nothing when he did that—I had kept him by the collar from the time I first seized him—the officer came up immediately, and I gave him into custody.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Did you see any one hand the watch to the prisoner? A. I did not—I could not swear that no one did so—I did not hear him say that somebody had handed the watch to him.

GEORGE WILLIAM BEVAN . I am a tinman and brazier, in Wells-street, Wellclose-square. I was in Leadenhall-street on the day in question, and heard Mr. Baxter call "Police!"—I went across—he had the prisoner by the collar—I took hold of him likewise, and saw him pass a watch and chain to the prosecutor—he said nothing at the time; he said at the station that another man had given it to him.

CORNELIA MARY BAXTER (through an interpreter). I was waiting with my husband when he lost his watch—I saw the prisoner take the watch out of his pocket—my husband laid hold of him, and kept him till he was given into custody.

Cross-examined. Q. Are you quite sure you saw the prisoner's hand take the watch? A. Tea; I am quite certain.

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Six Months.

NEW COURT.—Monday, June 11th. 1855.


Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Fifth Jury.

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586. MARY SHARP , stealing 1 pair of trowsers, value 6s. 6d.; the goods of John Sayer Lundy: to which she

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 28.— Confined Three Months.

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587. JOHN HANLEY , stealing half a pound of tobacco leaf, value 2s. 6d. the goods of Saling Schiff and another, his masters: to which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined Two Months.

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588. JOHN SYKES , stealing 97 yards of silk, value 9l.; the goods of William Cook and others, in their dwelling house; having been twice before convicted: to which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 23.— Four Years Penal Servitude.

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589. JAMES TAYLOR , burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Thomas Nicoll, stealing a watch and other articles, value 15l.; his property.

MR. PAYNE conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS NICOLL . I live at No. 39, East-street, Red Lion-square, in the parish of St. George the Martyr; I am a tenant of the house, and live in it On Saturday night, 12th Hay, I was sitting in the kitchen between 9 and 10 o'clock at night, and heard something drop in the front parlour—I waited a few minutes and then heard a heavy fall in the back parlour—I took a candle and went up stairs; before I got to the back parlour, a person came out, knocked me down, and made his escape—I shoved the back parlour open, and found the prisoner there—I collared him, and he knocked the candle out of my hand—we had a severe struggle, and he got away from me when I was just at the parlour door, but I secured him again before he got out of the house—my wife and daughter came to my assistance—I sent for a policeman—a chest of drawers in the back parlour had been thrown down, and the articles stated were in a wrapper, lying on the floor; there weree three or four gowns and petticoats, and a gold watch—I also missed a purse containing 19s., and a canvas bag with two sovereigns in it—the things that were on the floor had been taken out of the drawers—I had left the parlour door locked, and had the key with me in the kitchen—the street door opens with a latch key—I was at that door about a quarter past 9 o'clock, and it was left safe—I had not let any one in after that—the door was shut so that it could not be opened without a key—no one had come in after that, till I heard a noise—I found about half a box of matches strewed on the carpet.

Cross-examined by MR. JEFF. Q. Have you a good many lodgers? A. There are first floor lodgers, second floor lodgers, and third floor lodgers—I am the landlord of the house—I had locked the parlour door myself—there are three rooms on the floor, and two doors lead into the passage, and there are folding doors—the front parlour door was locked and fast—we always go by the back parlour door—one key opens both the doors—I was at the street door about a quarter past 9 o'clock—I shut it with a latch—I shut that door at a quarter past 9 o'clock—Inever left the door open in my life, only when I have been standing for a minute or two—I will swear that at that time I latched the door and left it so—when I was going in the parlour some one, not the prisoner, ran by me—I did not try to detain him, he nearly knocked me down—I found the prisoner behind the door in the back parlour—he had four keys about him—he had none of my things to my knowledge—there was no property found on him—he tried to get away, and knocked the candle out of my hand, and left me in the dark.

MR. PAYNE. Q. Was the door of the back parlour locked? A. Yes, and I had the key with me in the kitchen—that was my room, no one could get in without a key—the room was locked, and the things were in that room—whatever was the case with the street door, the room door was locked.

EDWARD BROWN (police-sergeant, E 10). I was called to the prosecutor's house on that Saturday night—I found the prisoner in the front parlour—I found on him these four keys and some matches—one of the keys would open the street door, and another opened the parlour door—I produce this watch and other articles, which were in a wrapper on the floor.

THOMAS NICOLL re-examined. These are my property.

GUILTY . Aged 17— Confined Eighteen Months.

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590. HARRIET JEWELL , feloniously forging and uttering a request for the delivery of goods.

RICHARD JOHN COVENTRY . I am a goldsmith, and live in Clerkenwell; I have one partner. On 16th May the prisoner brought me this note, addressed "Messrs. Coventry and Co."—she asked if it was right—my partner said "Yes," and she delivered it—(read: "Gentlemen,—Having an order for two lady's neck chains, and having none by me that will do, I shall be obliged if you will send me four or six of the last patterns. My young man being out I was compelled to send my servant. I will return the others to-morrow morning. George Brown, Praed-street. ")—I asked the prisoner how long Mr. Brown had lived in Praed-street—she said she had only been in his service three months, and she could not say—I heard my partner say the chains would be sent, and the prisoner went away.

GEORGE BROWN . I am a watchmaker, and live in Praed-street, Paddington—I do not know the prisoner—she was never in my service—this note is not my writing, nor any part of it—I do not know of any other Mr. Brown, in Praed-stireet, in my trade—there was a Mr. Brown, a bricklayer, six or seven years ago; he is not there now—there is no one of the name of Brown there—this note was not written by my authority.

JAMES BALDWIN (City policeman, 58). I took the prisoner on 16th May, in Queen-street, Cheapside—nothing passed between us then, but while we were standing to go before the Magistrate next day, I said to her, "You would not get 12l. for the watches"—she said, "No, not that"—she was remanded till the 22nd, for the person to find the request, and he could not, and during that time I found the other four prosecutors.

Prisoner's Defence. A man asked me to take a note, and I said I would; he said I was to say I had been in the service about three months; I went, and they told me they did not know Mr. Jones; I went with another note, and Igot a parcel, and gave it to the gentleman who gave me the note; I went to two or three other places with notes; the gentleman told me to say I had been in the service three months.

GUILTY of uttering. Aged 16.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury on account of her being the dupe of some other person.

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591. HARRIET JEWELL was again indicted for feloniously forging and uttering a request for the delivery of goods.

JOHN TOUPE . I live with my father, John Toupe, in Hatton Garden. On 20th April the prisoner brought me this note in an envelope, which was either sealed or wafered—she waited, I should think, at least half an hour—I did not speak to her myself, my father spoke to her—when she delivered it I was there—nothing was said, as we were rather busy—(read: "King-street, Covent Garden. Sir,—You will much oblige by sending, by my niece, about half a dozen lady's gold neck chains, from 3l. to 4l. each, or as nearas you can, having to send them to a lady to select from, not having any in stock; what I do not keep I will return on Monday. Yours, obliged, T. W. H. Ellis.")—some inquiries were made, and I handed the prisoner six chains, and she left without making any remark—I am sure she is the person.

HORATIO ELLIS . I am a silversmith and jeweller, of No. 11, King-street, Covent Garden. The first time I saw this note was when it was brought to me by the last witness—this is one of seven that have come under my cognizance.

JAMES BALDWIN . I took the prisoner, but not on this charge—this is one that came in question after she was taken.

GUILTY of uttering. Aged 16.— Confined Three Months. (There were two other indictments against the prisoner.)

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592. HANNAH RUSSELL , stealing 1 shawl, and other articles, value 1l. 10s.; the goods of Solomon Rains, her master.

SOLOMON RAINS . I live in Artillery-lane. The prisoner was my domestic servant, and worked by the week—I came down on the morning of 24th April, and she was gone—I cannot say whether that was the end of her week—she had not given me warning—I missed a pair of boots that my wife had taken off the night previous, and her shawl—the prisoner had left her own petticoats in the bedroom, and put on my wife's—I could not find the prisoner, but she came on the evening of 17th May, asked for my wife, and said, "I suppose you have been in search of me, I am come to throw myself on your mercy"—I sent for a policeman, and gave her into custody—at the station she said she had taken all but the shirt.

Prisoner. I did not take them with the intention of stealing them; I had been with you three times, did I ever take anything from you? Witness. She was taken ill one time In my service, and she sent a person to be with me, who robbed me of 7l—on the day she entered my service for the second time, I missed a valuable shawl out of the parlour—I do not know that she took it.

ALFRED GODDARD (City policeman. 671). I took the prisoner on 17th May; I took her to the station—she confessed that she took the shawl, boots, and the petticoats, but the shirt she had not seen—the female searcher found on her a duplicate of a shawl, which she had pawned in Wales.

Prisoner. Q. Did I tell you I had got the ticket of the shawl? A. Yes.

Prisoner's Defence. My husband left me after I had buried my child; I was told he was gone for a soldier; I took the things, and took the shawl to a man, and asked if I could have 5s. on it; he said yes, but I must take a quarter of a pound of tea; I said I did not want the tea, but I wanted the money; if I had meant to rob the prosecutor I could have done so.

GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined One Month.

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593. ELIZABETH BURRISON , stealing 4 printed books, value 15s.; the goods of Robert Preston Bain.

MR. LILLEY conducted the Prosecution.

ROBERT PRESTON BAIN . I am a land agent and auctioneer; I have an office at No. 7, Coleman-street, City. I had a number of medical books in my office—I missed some of them three or four months ago—one was "Ramsbottom's Medicine," and there was another of Mr. Dougals—the prisoner was assistant to the housekeeper—on the morning of 25th May, Green brought me these two books, and asked me if they were mine—they are mine, and were on my premises—I went with Green to a waste paper dealer's in Bellalley, and he produced this book, which I knew to be mine—it is entitled "Griffiths's Formulary. "

Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. There is no name or mark on it? A. No—I do not know when I missed it; it was gone—these books were on my premises within the last four months, or it might be six months—I have many books; no one ought to have access to them but the housekeeper, and the person she employs—when I leave the office the housekeeper keeps

the key—I am a land agent; persons call on me sometimes, and if they write a note, the housekeeper ought to wait in the office with them while they write it—the first time I missed any books was about three months ago.

EDMUND GREEN . I was in the City police, but I am not now. About 20 minutes before 10 o'clock on the morning of 25th May, I was called by Mr. Robinson, in Coleman-street; he handed me some books—I went with him and his son to the station, and in consequence of what was said there, I went to Mr. Bain's, and showed the books to him—I found that the prisoner lived at No. 8, Green-court.

JOHN ROBINSON . I am a watchman; I live at No. 8, Green-court, Coleman-street. I rent two rooms there, the prisoner lived in the room above me with her parents—I had occasion to go to the cellar on the morning of 25th May, between 7 and 8 o'clock; I found two books there, shoved in the top of the wall between the rafters—I gave these books to the officer Green.

Cross-examined. Q. Was that cellar common to the house? A. Yes—the prisoner's father, and mother, and two brothers live in the house—I have no wife, I have a woman lodging with me—I have two sons—in getting into the cellar from the street, you walk through the passage and go down the stairs—the water closet is in the cellar.

MR. LILLEY. Q. Is the front door open? A. I cannot tell, I am never at home at night—it is not in the day.

THOMAS ROBINSON . I am the son of the last witness. I am just turned twelve years of age—I have a younger brother, named William—I was playing in the cellar with him about three weeks ago—I saw two books upon a ledge by the side of the cellar—I took them down, and Thomas Burrison, the prisoner's brother, took them from me and put them under a cupboard in the inner cellar—in about a quarter of an hour afterwards, the prisoner asked me if I had seen the books—I said, "Yes," that her brother had taken them and put them under the cellar door—I afterwards saw two more books in the same place—that is about three weeks ago—I saw the prisoner bring something into the house under her apron—I do not know what it was—she took it down into the cellar.

Cross-examined. Q. When was that? A. About two or three days after I saw the books—I have not seen many other persons down in that cellar—I never saw anybody else there, only her sister, and father, and mother—the water closet is used by any one in the house—I think it was about three weeks ago I saw this—I was before the Magistrate the week before last—I told the policeman then that it was the week before last.

CHARLES PALMER . I am a stationer, and live at No. 31, Little Bell-alley. The prisoner brought me some books between three and four months ago—I bought one—this is it—she brought some that were so torn up I was obliged to send them to the mill—the work was the "Lancet"—I only bought this one book and those that were torn up—she came again, and brought this book—I asked her where she lived, and she said in Coleman-street, and her mistress sent her with this book—I said, "I shall not purchase it till your mistress comes"—she went away, and the book was in the drawer about three months, and when the policeman came and made inquiry I gave him the book directly—it is Griffiths's "Universal Formulary "—the prisoner did not say where she lived.

Cross-examined. Q. You bought this one book and detained the other A. Yes—she had brought some books before, which were torn up—they

were torn to pieces—there were a few copy books—I cannot recollect whether there was a copy book from which I tore the covers myself—the majority of the books that were torn up were the "Lancet"—there may have been a copy book or two—I did not take a copy book from her and tear the covers off and buy the rest—they were all intermixed—I never tore the cover off any book—I did not make out any memorandum of the waste paper; I did of the book which I bought—I did not about the book which I detained—I sent the waste paper to the mill—I did not send it direct to the mill, I sent it to a person who sends it to the mill—his name is Mr. Merrick—I very rarely buy waste paper of this description and send it to the mill—I buy clearings of counting houses—this was not anything better than clearings of counting houses—by the top I could see that it was the "Lancet"—I did not tell Mr. Bain that I sent it to Mr. Merrick—I told the policeman I sent it to the mill—I send small quantities to Mr. Merrick and he sends them to the mill—I did not know Mrs. Myring before this.

Q. Did you not on one occasion, when the prisoner brought some books, take off a cover and throw it on one side, and tell her when she brought some more covers you would buy them of her? A. I might have done so—I manufacture the covers again—they are sent to the mill also—I tear the covers off because one sort letches more than the other—I have been there about two years.

MR. LILLEY. Q. How many times have you bought of this girl? A. About half a dozen times—I have no recollection of tearing off a cover from a book—when I told the policeman I sent things to the mill I was not asked where the mill was, or who kept it.

MR. METCALFE to MR. BAIN. Q. Have you lost other things? A. Yes, a coat from the office and some other things, before this girl came.

JAME MYRING . I am the wife of Richard Myring, a carpenter, and live as housekeeper at No. 7, Coleman-street. The prisoner has been helping me to clean the office of Mr. Bain, and the house in general—she came just after last Christmas.

Cross-examined. Q. You watched her, and always found her at her work? A. Yes—I was ill when she came—I had not any one before her—I was ill one week—the prisoner was there till she was taken into custody—she was there all day—she might go out on errands, and would stay half an hour or three quarters when she might have gone in ten minutes—she might go for bread and cheese—I very rarely sent her out in the evening—there was a duplicate given up to me; that was of a plane I sent her to pawn—she was in the habit of going to the pawnbroker for her own parents before I sent her—I have sent her with other things—I sent her with a book of my husband's, which I afterwards fetched home; that might have been in May—it was "Peter Nicholson, on Staircase Work"—I dare say I may have sent her with something of wearing apparel—not with a coat; with a pair of trowsers of my husband's—he has more than one pair—that would not be on a Saturday night; more likely on a Monday or Tuesday—other gentlemen have offices there beside Mr. Baynes; Mr. Toppin and another gentleman—none of them sleep there—they go away about 5 o'clock, or from 5 till half-past 5 o'clock, and after that the rooms are left in my care—I sent this girl with three or four "Johnson's Dictionaries"—they were not my husband's; they were Mr. Stoughill's—that was not by Mr. Stoughills authority—I took his dictionaries, and sent them to pawn—if Mr. Stoughill had been there, I could have borrowed the money of him—I never sent a

coat of Mr. Toppin's, or any article of Mr. Toppin's, or any other article of Mr. Stoughill's, only the four dictionaries—I remember a silver pencil case being pawned; it was lent me by Mr. Palmer, who is clerk to Mr. Stoughill—I received the money for that and for the dictionaries, and the prisoner fetched them home—I did not tell her which pawnbroker to go to—there was an umbrella pawned belonging to Mr. Palmer; that did not go for me—I cannot say when Mr. Stoughill's dictionaries went; it was about six weeks ago—they came back on the following Monday morning—the pencil case went on Saturday night, and was home again on Monday morning—I did not send the prisoner with any bills of sale or agency bills—there was some paper that was left there, and I told her to go and sell it—I have always heard she is sixteen years old, and she has been in service three years.

Q. You knew there is a regulation about pawnbrokers not taking in things of persons under sixteen? A. She told me she had been in the habit of going—I remember Mr. Bain missing a book—he asked the prisoner about it, and she gave it him—she got it from my room—there were two books—I scolded her for giving them to Mr. Bain, because she had no right to go to my box—I never gave her an old account book to sell—I remember her coming back once and saying that if I had any covers, Mr. Palmer would buy them, and give her a halfpenny a pound for them—just before that she had had three pounds of waste paper of me; that was paper that was left in an office, and after the persons went away, the paper was brought to Coleman-street—I burnt the books as waste paper, but I took the covers off—they were old books that the gentleman had had in business—the prisoner sold the covers herself—it was about three years ago that those books came to me, and I took the covers off—the covers had been lying in a cupboard littering about—after she suggested that she could get a halfpenny a pound for them, she took the covers and sold them, but I did not get the money; I got some tea and sugar—I told her to get them, and she did.

MR. LILLEY. Q. Why was it you took these surgical books, and put them in your box? A. I took them to read—I put them into my box because there were such plates in them that they were not fit to lie about—when I was asked for them I was prepared to give them up—I sent some waste paper to sell which had been given me—the books were given me of which the covers were lying about—I did not think the covers were of any use, till she said that they could be sold—she did not tell me where she sold these things—I pawned the dictionaries because I wanted the money before my husband came home, and I redeemed them on Monday morning as soon as the shop was open—I pawned the pencil case with leave, and I redeemed it—the umbrella did not go for me but for Mr. Palmer, the clerk to Mr. Stoughill—I have got out the things that I pawned of my husband's—I have been in my present employ eight years last March—Mr. Bain came there in Sept—Mr. Stoughill was there when I came.


OLD COURT.—Tuesday, June 12th. 1855.



Before Mr. Recorder and the Second Jury.

Reference Number: t18550611-594

594. JOHN ASHFORD , stealing 6 lbs. weight of copper, value 6s.; the goods of Joseph Tylor and another, his masters: to which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 43.— Confined Four Months .

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595. WILLIAM GRANT , stealing a basket, and 36 bottles, value 12s.; the goods of Benjamin Fleet: to which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 36.— Confined Three Months .

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596. WILLIAM HORST MILLER , feloniously forging and uttering a request for the delivery of a cheque book, with intent to defraud: to which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Eight Months .

Reference Number: t18550611-597

597. JAMES SULLIVAN , burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of Samuel Lovegrove and another, and stealing 1l. in money, 25 francs, and other coins, the property of Harry Kenton: to which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Nine Months .

Reference Number: t18550611-598

598. JAMES EDWARDS, CHARLES PHILLIPS , and JOHN JONES , burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of Thomas Parker, and stealing a tea pot, and other articles, value 8l.; his property; Phillips having been before convicted.




Six Years' Penal Servitude .

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599. JOHN EDWIN HIND , stealing 79 lbs. weight of type, and other goods, value 4l.; the goods of Andrew Spottiswoode and another, his masters: to which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 39.— Confined Twelve Months .

Reference Number: t18550611-600

600. CARLO BRUNELLI , stealing a portmanteau, value 12s.; the goods of Thomas Croucher: to which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 42.— Confined Eight Days .

The prisoner (an Italian) stated, that he had come to this country to be instructed in the Protestant religion, and that he was awaiting a remittance from his friends in Milan, to enable him to leave the country.

Reference Number: t18550611-601

601. CHARLES BARLOW , stealing 2 lbs. weight of nutmegs, value 8s.; the goods of William Harvest, his master; and WILLIAM HARRIS , feloniously receiving the same.

BARLOW— PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Twelve Months .

HARRIS— PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 34.— Six Years' Penal Servitude .

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602. JAMES CROUCH , stealing 6s.; the moneys of James Forster, his master: to which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Four Months .

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603. JOSEPH BOLTON and WILLIAM ARNALL , stealing 14 gallons of ale, value 14s.; the goods of the Eastern Counties Railway Company.

MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM SHAW . I am foreman of a warehouse at Blackwall, the property of the Eastern Counties Railway Company. On Friday, 11th May, 100 hogsheads of pale ale were delivered out of the warehouse, some part of it in my presence—I saw some of it delivered into a lighter—Bol-ton had charge of the lighter—they were to be put on board a vessel called the Nugget. bound for Sydney; the casks appeared to be in good condition—Bolton was servant to the lighterman.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Was there any space allowed in the hogsheads for fermentation? A. I am not aware, I saw a barge load of hogsheads go away which Bolton had charge of—I have the management of the goods department at Blackwall, for the Eastern Counties Railway Company; it is called the Blackwall pepper warehouse wharf—these goods were in the hands of the lighterman to the Company—I did not expect to see them again—Mr. Thomas is the lighterman to the Company, Bolton is his servant, and was captain of the barge—the ale belonged to Tooth and Co., brewers, of Mincing-lane; they have a store at our place which they rent from us; they have their own servants there, and they occupy the store as our tenants—I have the general superintendence of the wharf business there—the Railway Company pay Mr. Thomas, the lighterman—the Company contract to bring the ale up by rail, and deliver it by barges at a certain sum per ton—the hogsheads are not gauged by us—they are delivered by us, just as a bale of cotton would be from the wharf—I believe some of the hogsheads were lying on the wharf one night; and about seventy or eighty men are employed there by us—it took about twenty labourers to remove these casks, it is a long distance from Messrs. Tooth's store to the I barge; I dare say it would take quite that number to roll them—they do not roll a great deal out of them.

Cross-examined by MR. RIBTON. Q. How long had the ale been in the warehouse? A. I cannot tell, we are receiving ale daily—I cannot say whether it had been there a month; I would not say it had not—four or five of Messrs. Tooth's men have access to the warehouse in which the ale was kept, they work there—I should say from 3,000 to 4,000 casks are kept there—perhaps twenty casks had been lying on the wharf for one night; there might have been fifty, I cannot say; I believe they were not lying there more than one night, I will not swear they had not—all the persons employed about the wharf had then access to them.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. By a barge load do you mean 100 hogsheads? A. Yes—we consider that the casks are in the Company's hands until they have been put on board the vessel bound for Australia—they are then put into the custody of the owner of the vessel—the Company hold themselves responsible up to that time; we have had a bill sent in by Tooth and Co., to pay for the ale that has been abstracted from the casks—we have had to pay for the loss.

SAMUEL DUCE . I am a watchman in the service of the Eastern Counties Railway Company, at the pepper warehouse, Blackwall. On Friday, 11th May, from information I received, I followed a barge laden with hogsheads of ale—Bolton was the lighterman of that barge—I concealed myself in the engine house at the lower wharf, opposite where the barge was lying—I saw Arnall take a bucket from another barge and lot it down into the cabin—I did not see where Bolton was at that time—after it had been down sometime

Arnall went down—I do not know whether Bolton's barge had any name on it—I had watched that barge—Arnall remained in the cabin a very short time—he then came up, and they drew up the bucket—I could not see whether there was anything in it—he took it to another barge that was lying alongside, and put it down in the cabin—the bucket was open so that any one could see it—there was nothing on it but a piece of rope, by which it was let down into the cabin—I should say it was about a gallon bucket—after a short time the bucket was brought back again, and put down again into the cabin where the ale was; Arnall went down, and in a short time came up again, drew up the bucket again, and took it to the barge that was lying alongside, where he took the first one, and let it down into the cabin—this was from 1 or half past, till 3 o'clock—the second time the bucket was taken I saw Bolton put his head up out of the cabin—after Arnall had disposed of the second bucket I saw him go to another barge, he went down into the cabin and put up a gallon bottle—he put a coat round it, and took it aboard the barge where the ale was—he went down into the cabin, and in a short time it was brought up again—Bolton stood at the top and took it—I could not exactly see from where I stood, who put it up—Arnall took the bottle from the side of the cabin, and went to the barge where he had fetched it from—I could not see Bolton at that time, he was in the cabin—I saw him when the second bucket went down; some minutes elapsed before the bottle went down—Bolton could not have left the cabin without my seeing him—he had not left it between the time the bucket came up the second time and the bottle going down—after the bottle was put down I saw the bucket put down once more—that was by Arnall—it was brought away again—I then went and gave information to Mr. Steele; he was waiting at the stores—I then accompanied him on board the barge, and into the cabin where I had seen the bucket go down—I found nine persons there—that was not in Bolton's barge, but another barge where the ale was taken to—I first went on board Bolton's barge—the barge that the bottle was taken to was Arnall's own barge—I went there and placed Steele against the cabin—I did not go into the cabin then, I went on board the barge where the ale was taken in the buckets—I there found the nine persons—Bolton was there, and Arnall also—I am quite sure that I saw Bolton at the time when the bucket was being let down the second time—Arnall was not on board his own barge when I and Mr. Steele went on board it—I afterwards went on board his barge again; I did not find him there, I found Mr. Steele there, standing at the top of the cabin—I found a gallon bottle of ale in that cabin—this (produced) is the bottle—it is a similar bottle to the one I saw go down into the cabin of Bolton's barge.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Were you formerly in the police 1 A. I was—I was discharged through ill health—I am now in the employment of the Eastern Counties Railway Company—I have been a watchman about three months—there is scarcely any night watching, I am a day watch—I cannot tell how far I was from the barges that I was watching, because I have not measured it—I should say it was about 150 yards, or it might be less, it was not more—I was concealed in the engine house—there was an engine there—it was not at work—I was looking out of a hole—I was watching from 11 o'clock, when the barges left the pepper warehouse, till between 3 and 4 o'clock—the barges came up Bow Creek into the Thames; that is nearly two miles round—there were several barges lying there—there were no other barges there with hogsheads of ale, I swear that—there were about six or seven barges lying there; I did not count them; I will

swear there were not fourteen barges—I did not see any other barge there laden with ale—that is the place where the barges lie to wait for the tide—I do not know whether that is the time the men go to their dinner—the nine men I found in the barge were sitting in the cabin, they were not doing anything—I went there because I saw the bucket come from there—I found a bucket there, but it had then got cinder dust in it instead of ale—that bucket is not here—I did not see ale in it; it was very wet; the cinder dust was dry—I only found one bucket on board—I saw the bucket go down in the cabin—the casks lay in the hold—there is a partition separating the hold from the cabin.

Cross-examined by MR. RIBTON. Q. Was the first thing you saw the bucket being sent down into the barge? A. The first thing I saw was Arnall walking up and down his own barge—I saw him take the bucket, and rinse it out with water—I have not stated that I did not know who the man was that put the bucket down into the barge—I do not know that I had ever seen Arnall before—I saw several men near the barge where the ale was, three or four—I only saw one besides Bolton and Arnall go aboard—I do not know who that man was; I had never seen him before—there was another man taken into custody; he was discharged—Arnall had a jacket on that day; I swear that—the other man that was taken had a coat on—I swear that Arnall is the man—I have not said that I did not know what dress Arnall had on that day—Arnall told me he had a barge there, and he went away with it—that was the barge in which I found this bottle—there was no one but himself on board—I saw some men go ashore; I do not know how many; I did not count them—I saw them get into a boat, and row away from the barges—there were two or three—the boat went away twice—I cannot say whether that was after I had seen the bottle taken from the barge where the ale was—Arnall did not afterwards row me and the policeman ashore—he stopped the barge in the creek, so that we could not get off, and we were obliged to tell him that we would not take him if he took us ashore—he then went on with his barge, and we got into the ferry boat, and got ashore—he said we must not take him in charge then, as he had a barge to attend to, but we must come next morning to his employer's—he gave me his own name and his employer's at once—I did not go after him next morning—I have been three months in the service of the Company—I am employed daily to watch—I have never given evidence here before—there was no one watching but myself—any one could see them while this was going on—I am the only person here who saw Arnall take the beer from the barge—I do not know whether Arnall was one of the men I saw rowing away from the barge.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. I believe you were about half an hour gone to fetch Mr. Steele, were you not? A. About that—the bottle I saw was the same kind of bottle as this—I found this in the barge to which I saw Arnall take it—Arnall was in the barge at the time—it was full of ale; it has got ale in it now.

COURT. Q. You say that they went from one barge to another; how did they go? A. The barges all lay alongside, they could step from one to the other—I believe I was about 150 yards from the barges; it might not be so much—I had not known Arnall before; I recognized him quite distinctly—I was above him, looking down—I could tell his features at that distance—I could read what was written on the casks, the letters were about an inch and a quarter, or an inch and a half long—I could tell a man's features at 150 yards distance.

JOHN STEELE , I am foreman to Messrs. Robert and Alfred Tooth, brewers, of No. 14, Mincing-lane. On Friday, 11th May, I saw 100 hogsheads of ale put on board a lighter; it was Messrs. Tooth's ale, which they were exporting—I saw it put on board the barge from the premises of the Eastern Counties Railway Company—Bolton had charge of the barge when it went out of the wharf—I saw that the hogsheads were in good condition, not leaky; they were filled up, and properly vented—I knew that Duce was watching—he afterwards fetched me, and we went aboard a barge; he told me to stay at the top of the cabin stairs, and see that no one went down or came up; he went elsewhere—he afterwards returned, went into the cabin, and brought up this bottle of ale; I tasted it; it contained Messrs. Tooth's ale—I have got here a sample from the hogsheads—it is the same quality and flavour; it is a peculiar ale—I afterwards went on board the lighter where the 100 hogsheads were—I found one hogshead lying on the top of the barge, which had had a spigot put in the head of it; I took the cask in my hand, and found it had been ullaged considerably—there was no spile in it when it was sent out—the cask was lying on the deck, on the top of the 100 hogsheads, lying by itself—the spigot was broken off—I examined the other casks on the following day, and found that five had been spiled—I missed altogether fourteen gallons of ale from those five casks.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Are not the casks spiled for the purposes of fermentation? A. Vent pegs are put in, five in each cask—if the casks are put bung downwards the ale is liable to ooze out—I cannot say how often I came out of the warehouse to see the barge loading—I do not know whether as many as fifty casks were put in when I first went to the barge, it might be so—it is a general rule in the trade to give the men employed in loading, half a pint of ale each; that rests with the foreman—this ale might have been in store three weeks—we employ men as we want them, sometimes four, sometimes ten: that would be the largest number—this is ale brewed expressly for the Australian market.

Cross-examined by MR. RIBTON. Q. After you had been on board the barge some time, did you see Arnall come on board? A. Yes; I do not know what barge he came from—he went away in charge of the barge in which the bottle of ale was found—I cannot say how many men there were in the barge when I was set there to watch; there were not a dozen, I cannot say whether there was half a dozen, I did not pay any attention—there were men there, but I cannot say how many; they were in the cabin—I saw one man. I cannot say how many more there were; that was before Arnall went down—I cannot say whether there were any more—I did not count how many barges there were there; there might have been about ten—I do not know who the man was that was on board Arnall's barge.

EBENEZER DAVIS (policeman, K 95). On 11th May, from information I received, I went on board the Arnold barge, and found Bolton, Steele, and Duce there—Arnall was not there, he was on board his own barge, the Thomas and Ann—there was a barge called the Arnold; but Arnall's barge was the Thomas and Ann—I found Arnall on board of that—the bottle was not there then, it had been taken by Duce back to the barge Arnold. where it had been stolen from; that was Bolton's barge—(JOHN STEELE. I had taken the bottle back to Bolton's barge before Davis came)—I took Arnall into custody—he was afterwards allowed to navigate his barge—I took Bolton into custody; he was drunk—Arnall was not so tipsy as Bolton, hut I could see that he had been drinking, and so had all the men; Bolton was crying drunk—he said he knew nothing of it—Arnall said he did not know anything about it.

WILLIAM LEECH . I am in Messrs. Tooth's employment, at the ale stores. On 11th May, Bolton was brought there by Steele; he was intoxicated and crying—he said he did not draw the beer for himself, he drawed it for others.

MR. PARRY called

JAMES THOMAS . I am the owner of this lighter. Bolton has been in my employment about eighteen months; he has always behaved himself well and respectably, as far as I know; I bailed him—I have trusted him with many thousand pounds, and never found anything wrong.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Who is responsible for the ale lost? A. Myself; if there is any claim I shall have to pay it—I am employed by Messrs. Tooth, not by the Eastern Counties—I do not know whether I mean to make this ale good; if I am called upon, perhaps I shall make it good—certainly, if I am called upon, I shall; I consider the ale in my custody—I do not mean to make it good to the Railway Company.

MR. PARRY. Q. If there is any legal and just claim made out against you by any one, are you willing to pay it? A. Yes.

(The prisoners received good characters.)


NEW COURT.—Tuesday, June 12th. 1855.



Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Sixth Jury.

Reference Number: t18550611-604

604. BETSY WATTS , stealing 1 gown, value 1l.; the goods of Martha Home, her mistress: to which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Two Months.

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605. WILLIAM THOMPSON , stealing, on 23rd May, 1 pair of boots, value 17s., the goods of George Page; also. on 1st May, 3 pairs of boots, value 1l. 17s. 6d., the goods of John Reed; also. on 21st April, 3 pairs of boots, value 1l. 17s. 6d. the goods of William Reed: to all which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined Bight Months.

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606. THOMAS ALLEN , embezzling the sum of 18s. 4d.; the moneys of Solomon Samuel, his master: to which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 31.— Confined Three Months.

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607. SARAH LARKIN was indicted for feloniously uttering counterfeit coin.

MESSRS. ELLIS and POLAND conducted the Prosecution.

JOSEPH GENTRY (policeman). I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction, from Mr. Clark's office—(read: "Central Criminal Court. Sarah Larkin, convicted February 18th of uttering counterfeit coin.—Confined Six Months.")—I was present—the prisoner is the person—I was a witness in the case.

ROBERT WRIGHT . I keep the Rum Puncheon, in Cross-lane. On Saturday, 12th May, the prisoner came with two other women, and called for half a quartern of rum, which came to 2 1/2 d.—she then called for another and gave me sixpence—I gave her 1d. change—her companions then left her, and she called for half a pint of porter and a biscuit, which came to

1 1/2 d—she offered me a counterfeit sixpence—I told her so—she said she did not know it—I said, "Have you any more T—I saw her putting her hand into her pocket—I caught her hand, and took from it some copper and a bad sixpence—I marked the two sixpences, and gave them to the constable.

CHARLES SMITH . I was called by Wright, and took the prisoner—she was not in liquor—T got two bad sixpences from Wright—he marked them first.

Prisoner. I was in liquor, and you said so at Bow-street. Witness. I did not.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . I am inspector of coin to Her Majesty's Mint. These sixpences are both bad.

Prisoner's Defence. I sold a gown to a woman who gave me the money; she came in, and I treated her.

GUILTY.** Aged 43.— Confined Eighteen Months.

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608. SAMUEL FARROW was indicted for unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.

MESSRS. ELLIS and POLAND conducted the Prosecution.

ELIZABETH TILBY . My husband keeps the Black Lion, at Spitalfields. On Tuesday, 29th May, about half past 5 o'clock, I was in the bar, and served the prisoner with a pint of porter—he paid me with a 5s. piece—I gave him 4s. 10d. change, and put the crown into the till; there were only shillings and sixpences there—the prisoner left, and about twenty minutes afterwards Caroline Gent, a little girl, came in, and I served her with a quartern of gin—she paid me with a half crown—I gave her 2s. 2d. change, and she left—I put the half crown into, the till—there was no other half crown there—I went to the till again in about ten minutes, having lighted the gas in the meantime, and then examined the crown and half crown, and found that they were bad—I showed them to my husband, and he went next door as the little girl lived there, and we found the prisoner there—I said to him, "Look here what you have sent; here is a bad crown I have taken of you and half a crown of Mrs. Gent's little girl, and they are both bad"—he said he knew nothing about them—I asked the little girl who gave it to her—she pointed to the prisoner and said, "My uncle"—he made no reply—I gave the 5s. and the half crown to my husband—nobody serves in the bar but me and my husband.

CAROLINE GENT . I am twelve years old, and live with my father, next door to Mr. Tilby. About a fortnight ago the prisoner was at our house—he gave me a half crown, and said, "Go into Mrs. Tilby's and get a quartern of gin"—I went and got it, and paid with the half crown that the prisoner gave me—I did not know that it was bad.

GEORGE ALFRED TILBY . I keep the Black Lion, at Spitalfields. In consequence of what my wife told me, I went to Mr. Gent's, next door, with a crown and half crown which my wife gave me—I gave them to the policeman, and gave the prisoner, who was there, into custody—I asked him what money he gave the little girl—he said, "A shilling"—I asked her in his presence, and she said that it was a half crown—on that the prisoner said that he was drunk, but he was not.

EDWARD WINTEE (policeman, H 144). I took the prisoner, searched him, and found on him six good shillings, a sixpence, 4d. and 2d.—going to the station he said, "A drunken man does not know what he is doing"—he was not drunk—I received this crown and half crown from Tilby.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . These coins are both bad.

Prisoner's Defence. I never had any crown; there were thirty or forty people spending money there, as there was a walking match; I gave my niece a good half crown.

GUILTY . Aged 38.— Confined Twelve Months.

Reference Number: t18550611-609

609. JANE ELLIOTT was indicted for a like offence.

MESSRS. ELLIS and POLAND conducted the Prosecution.

RICHARD TWITTY . I am a tobacconist, of Walbrook-row. On Friday, 27th April, between 8 and 9 o'clock in the evening, the prisoner came, and I served her with 6d. worth of cigars, and some other small articles, amounting to 7(d. altogether—she put down a crown piece, I tried it with my teeth, found that it was bad, and told her so—she said that if I would give it her again she would get it changed—I refused, and she left, leaving it with me—I went after her, and gave her into custody with the crown—I went before a Magistrate, that was the only case against her, and she was discharged.

WILLIAM COLLARD (policeman, N 53). On Friday night, 27th April, I was on duty at Hoxton, and Twitty gave the prisoner into my custody, with this crown (produced)—she said that she did not know it was bad—she was taken before the Magistrate, and that being the only case she was discharged.

GEORGE ROSE . I am a greengrocer, of the City-road. On 15th May, about half past 9 o'clock in the evening, the prisoner came and purchased some radishes and onions, which came to 3 3/4 d.—she gave me a crown—I gave her the change, and she went out, leaving the goods—James Brett soon afterwards said something to me, and I looked at the crown and found it was bad—I had put it into the till, where there was nothing but 4d.—I followed the prisoner, with the crown in my haud, to Short-street, when Mr. Brett brought her up to me—she said, "Here is your change; pray do not do anything with me," before I had spoken to her at all—she gave me all the change—I took her towards the station, met a constable, and gave him the crown.

JAMES BRETT . I live near the City-road. On 15th May the prisoner came out of a little fish shop to go towards the City-road to another shop—I followed her and two men across the City-road, and kept sight of them till they went to Mr. Rose's shop, and as they passed they nudged the prisoner and she went in while they crossed over and I lost sight of them on the other side—I went into Mr. Rose's, and after the prisoner came out I pursued her, and found her concealing herself against a doorway, as I had overrun her and she saw me coming—I laid hold of her and said, "You have been uttering bad money"—she said, "I do not know that; pray do not lock me up"—Mr. Rose came up, and she handed him the change.

PATRICK DOWLING (policeman, N 251). The prisoner was given into my custody—I got this bad crown (produced) from Mr. Rose.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . These are both bad coins.

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Eight Months.

Reference Number: t18550611-610

610. JOSEPH CORNWALL was indicted for a like offence.

MESSRS. ELLIS and POLAND conducted tlie Prosecution.

MARY CONNOR . I am married, and live at No. 5, Angel-alley, Whitechapel. On 31st May, in the afternoon, I was in Mr. Webb's public house at Whitechapel, selling trotters—the prisoner bought two for three halfpence

—he first took, what seemed to me, to be good money out of his righthand pocket, then put it back again and took a piece of paper out of his left pocket, opened it, and took 1s. out—I gave him 6d. and 4d. in change—I had no more, and he said that he did not mind the other halfpenny—I put the shilling into my pocket; I had not a farthing there—in about two minutes I took it out, went over to the barmaid and said, "Please is this a good shilling, for I want change for it if it is?"—the prisoner was still within a yard of me—the barmaid tried it, said that it was bad, and returned it to me—it was not out of my sight—I laid hold of the prisoner and said, "Give me a good shilling, it is a shame for you to do such a thing"—he said that he did not give me a shilling at all—I said that he did, and he was still eating the trotters—the landlord turned us both out—I still kept hold of the prisoner, and he said that he gave me no shilling—he gave me another shilling outside, which I showed to the barman, who examined it and said that it was bad also—I gave the prisoner in custody with both the shillings—as the policeman came up, the prisoner shook 3 1/2 d. in copper into my basket.

Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Was it market day? A. I do not know; it was Thursday—the prisoner said that he gave me no shilling at all, not that he gave me no bad shilling—he would not give me another shilling at first—the people were telling him that he ought to give me another—this was not ten minutes about.

CHARLES BOWMAN . I am a sawyer—I was in this public house on 31st May, and saw the last witness and the prisoner—I saw her show 1s. to the barmaid, who returned it to her saying that it was bad—they were both turned out by the barman—I said to the prisoner, "It is very wrong of you to give a poor woman a bad shilling, when she has given you 10d. change; you ought to give her another shilling"—he put another shilling into her hand; she handed it to the barman, who said that it was bad also, and laid hold of the prisoner—he tried to get away, but was given into custody.

WILLIAM HOWLAND (policeman, H 128). The prisoner was given into my custody with these two shillings—going to the station, I saw a shilling drop down his boot on to the ground—I picked it up; it was bad, and I told him so—he said that it did not drop from him, but I am sure it did—there was nobody between him and me—he said that if people gave him bad money, he could not help it—I searched him, and found 7s. 3 1/2 d. on him in good money—he said at the station that he lived at Rumford or Dagenham; they are about two miles apart.

Cross-examined. Q. What distance is it from town? A. About ten miles—he was employed by his brother, who is a dealer in hay, to come up to town—I do not know that he had been with a waggon to sell some straw.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . These shillings are all three bad—the one picked up is from the same mould as one of those uttered.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Eight Months.

Reference Number: t18550611-611

611. GEORGE SAUNDERS was indicted for unlawfully having counterfeit coin in his possession with intent to utter it.

MESSRS. CLERK and POLAND conducted the Prosecution.

JULIA ANN WHITE . I live at No. 1, Glass House-buildings, Whitechapel, and am an unfortunate girl. On Monday night, 7th May, between 11 and 12 o'clock, I was in the Blue Anchor public house—the prisoner and two More men were there, and all three of them accompanied me to my lodgings,

and went up to my bedroom, but the other two did not stop, they went away, and the prisoner remained—when he went to bed, he asked me how much I charged for the night—I said, "Half a sovereign"—he was quite agreeable to that, and told me that provided I was an honest girl, he would give me more than what I had engaged for, in the morning—we went to bed, and about 2 o'clock in the morning I told him to send for some beer—I called in the old woman, who is like a servant, and sent her for it—the prisoner gave her 1s.; she brought the shilling back from the public house, and said that it was bad—she gave it to me, and the prisoner told me to open one of the papers which he had got, and to give her another shilling; the papers were in his coat pocket—I did so, and she then left the room for the beer, and brought it back bent; it was bad—the prisoner had given me seven or eight papers to keep till the morning; there appeared to be money in them—when the woman came back the second time, she said that she was very nearly getting locked up, as the money was bad—I said to the prisoner, "This money you have given me is all bad"—he said, "Tut, tul. lie down, no such thing"—I got out of bed and called a policeman, who came into the bedroom, and I gave him the money in the papers—he took the prisoner into custody.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How long have you been living at No. 1, Glass House-buildings? A. Five years—I have been a prostitute all that time—Mrs. Newman keeps the house—I always go by the name of Julia White—I have gone by the name of Julia Johnson; it is all the same—I was not taken up for stealing a watch; it was only on suspicion, and I was discharged—I have been in custody twice, I believe, besides seven or eight times for being drunk—I have never heard it said that I have been accused of sending people to pass bad money at public houses—I have not heard about two crown pieces being passed a short time before—there wer e two persons with the prisoner when he came, and they asked me if I could get them two other girls like myself, and I sent Mrs. Newman out for them, and they came and went away with the men—there are only two rooms to the house; Mrs. Newman sleeps in one and I in the other—it was 2 o'clock when I sent Mrs. Newman for the beer, and between 3 and 4 o'clock when the policeman came: I cannot exactly say—I did not give Mrs. Newman 2s. the first time—the persons with the prisoner did not persuade him to go home, nor did I persuade him to stop with me—he complained that he had lost his silk handkerchief—he did not at that time say that he had lost a stamped agreement which had been in his pocket, nor did he say so at the station house—he was not very much the worse for liquor; he seemed quite tired and fatigued—when I met him, I had just come down stairs from the concert room, and he was speaking to a girl who had known him previous to me—I considered that he was a perfect gentleman when I saw him—I am twenty-four years old—I never committed myself with any bad behaviour in the streets—it was between 11 and 12 o'clock when I sent for two other girls—after the woman brought the second shilling back, and said that she had nearly got into trouble, I was not two minutes before I went for the policeman; only just while I was slipping on a petticoat—I left the prisoner in the room—he was lying down in bed quite comfortable when the policeman came in—the policeman put his hands on him, took him, and asked him if the clothes belonged to him; he said, "Yes"—the policeman put his hand in the waistcoat pocket, and took out three or four more papers of bad money—I had not taken the money out to Mrs. Newman; I called her into the room when the prisoner and I were in bed—I did not

I see where the prisoner took the shilling from which he gave her—the one I gave her I took out of his pocket by his orders.

MR. CLERK. Q. When was it that there was this business about a watch? A. About a fortnight ago—I was taken to the police court, remanded, and discharged by the Magistrate—the two men were two or three minutes in the room before I fetched the two girls—the prisoner gave me the paper parcels about an hour after I lay down—he had given them to me at the time Mrs. Newman went for the beer the first time—she went out, and while she was away he gave them to me—it was at the station that the prisoner complained of the silk handkerchief being lost—he did not say where he had lost it, but he did not complain at my place about it.

ELIZA NEWMAN . I keep the rooms in Glasshouse-buildings, where the last witness lives—she is a girl of the town—on the night of 7th May she came to her room, with the prisoner, and two other gentlemen—the other two went away; they did not stop more than half an hour—the girls went to their own apartments—there are two rooms; I live in the first, and Julia White has to go through my room, which is the kitchen, to go into hers—I was called into the room by the prisoner—he gave me a shilling—I do not know where he took it from—the girl was in bed with him—I went to a public house with that shilling; it was refused—I brought it back to the prisoner, told him that it was bad, and he gave me another—he had them in cartridges—he was still in bed when he gave me the second shilling, and so was the girl—it was the prisoner that gave me both the shillings—I took the second shilling to another public house, and that was refused—I came back with it, and told him that it was bad—White then got up, went out, and called a policeman—I cannot tell what time it was then, but it was not very long after he gave me the first shilling; it was about 2 o'clock when I went for the first pot of beer.

Cross-examined Q. Where was the prisoner while the girl went for the policeman? A. In bed—I saw the policeman go to him, shake him, and awake him—I do not think it was so late as 12 o'clock when the people first came to my house—the girls that went away with the other men were strangers to me—I do not know how many times White has been in custody—she pays me 5s. a week—I have lived in that neighbourhood four years—I have never been in custody in my life—the young women bring in the men, and I receive the money.

MR. CLERK. Q. Where did you first see the men and the girls? A. In my own room—when I first saw them, the other men had the girls with them—no charge has been brought against me about a watch being stolen in my house.

JURY. Q. Did you receive the second shilling from the prisoner? A. Yes; I did not receive a shilling from White—he took them out of cartridges each time, I suppose—he had them all there—he, of course, took the first shilling out of a cartridge, and the second too—I saw him undo the cartridge the second time, and give me the second shilling.

THOMAS KELLY (policeman, H 130). I was on duty in Whitechapel, and was fetched by Julia White, about 4 o'clock in the morning, to No. 1, Glass-house-yard—I went into the bedroom, and found the prisoner in bed—previous to my going into the room, White gave me this handkerchief (produced), containing forty-three bad shillings, and twenty-seven bad sixpences—I counted them at the station house—I found some paper cartridges, containing money, in the prisoner's waistcoat pocket—I broke them, and some bad money fell out—there was also one with good money in it, and

two bad half sovereigns; and one containing six bad florins, one half crown, six bad shillings, and seven sixpences (produced)—in the same waistcoat I found a good half sovereign, and 19s.—I lifted up the waistcoat, with all the cartridges, and said, "Is this your waistcoat?"—he turned round in the bed, and said, "Yes"—I said, "How do you account for all this bad money about you?"—he said, "I do not know"—I said, "You must come to the station house"—two shillings were picked up on the floor by the girl, and given to me—I am not certain whether I put them into the handkerchief or into the purse, but I gave it all up to the inspector at the station, and he gave it back to me about 10 o'clock the same morning—the prisoner appeared rather sleepy and stupified, whether from drink or from sleep I cannot say.

Cross-examined. Q. He appeared rather stupified when he was before the Magistrate, did not he?A. I did not notice it—I thought him so when I took him in the room—he complained to me before he left the room of his having lost his handkerchief—I did not see that he had a handkerchief on before he left the room—the girl gave me this handkerchief before I went into the room, the prisoner did not say that it was his.

MR. CLERK. Q. Where was it that the girl gave you the handkerchief? A. In the street, about 100 yards from the door—the prisoner complained of his handkerchief being lost, on the way to the station, and in the room also.

GEORGE MARSH (police inspector, H). On the morning of 8th May, Kelly gave into my charge a quantity of bad money—I gave it back to him in the morning in the same condition—I saw the prisoner; he had the appearance of having been drunk the night before.

Cross-examined. Q. Did he appear in a sort of sleepy half stupid state? A. He was like a drunken man awoke out of sleep—I had not seen him on the afternoon of that day—it was not to me that he applied about some premises that he was kept out of possession of—I was on duty from 10 o'clock that morning till 10 o'clock next morning—the prisoner did not make a complaint to me that a house in the neighbourhood belonging to him had been opened by some person, nor did I advise him to apply to a Magistrate—I was not on duty in the station, there was another inspector there—I do not recollect being present when there was a case of a man stabbing a woman heard at the station house—there was another inspector on duty, and we relieve each other alternately—I know the girl White, she is a prostitute—while I was at the station I remember a publican making "a charge of having received counterfeit money—the prisoner was there—the publican came at the same time that the prisoner was brought, and told me that a woman had tendered him a bad shilling—I have no recollection of a crown piece being spoken of.

MR. CLERK to THOMAS KELLY. Q. There was good money in the prisoner's pocket; was it loose or wrapped in paper? A. Wrapped in paper—the two bad half sovereigns were in the paper with the good money.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . In this packet, containing forty-two shillings and twenty-seven sixpences, here are thirty bad shillings of 1820, several of which are from the same mould—here are nine of 1853 all bad, and all from the same mould—all the money in the handkerchief is bad—here are six bad florins, two bad half sovereigns, one bad crown, and several sixpences, found in the waistcoat, are bad—here are ninety-two pieces of bad money altogether, and also some good money.

GUILTY . Aged 35.— Confined Eighteen Months.

Reference Number: t18550611-612

612. ANN SMITH was indicted for unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.

MESSRS. CLERK and POLAND conducted the Prosecution.

CHARLES FREEN . I am waiter at a coffee house kept by Mr. Shadlock, in Bishopsgate-street On the morning of 4th of May, about twenty minutes past 1 o'clock, the prisoner came for a cup of tea and a slice of bread and butter, which came to 2d.—she gave me 6d. in payment, which I took to Mrs. Shadlock, who was at the bar door on the same floor as the shop—she was busy, and put it on a shelf just above the till—she gave me the change, and I gave it to the prisoner—about twenty minutes afterwards Mrs. Shadlock made an observation to me—the prisoner was still in the shop, and asked for a slice of bread and a rasher of bacon—they came to 4d.—I took them to her, and she gave me a 6d.—I took it to Mrs. Shadlock, she tried it, found it was bad, and gave the prisoner in charge.

MARY ANN SHADLOCK . On 4th May I was in my coffee shop—the boy gave me 6d. I gave him the change, and being too busy to examine the money, I placed it on a small shelf above the till, and gave him 3d. change out of the till—I examined it about twenty minutes afterwards and found it was bad—the boy afterwards brought me another 6d.—I found that it was bad; I bent it, and asked her why she should try to pass bad money on the boy—she looked at me, and said, "What do you mean?"—I said, "It is the second bad sixpence you have passed"—she owned to giving the last one, but denied giving the first—she offered to pay with good money, but I refused—she was very impudent, and said I might lock her up and do what I liked with her—I went to the door, called a policeman, and gave them both to him.

JOHN HITCHCOCK (City policeman. 644). The prisoner was given into my custody, and I received these two sixpences (produced) from Mrs. Shadlock—the prisoner was searched at the station, and a good sixpence and 7d. in copper found on her.

WILLIAM WEBSTER These coins are both bad.

Prisoner's Defence. I did it through destitution.

GUILTY . Aged 42.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18550611-613

613. THOMAS ADAMS was indicted for a like offence.

MESSRS. CLERK and POLAND conducted the Prosecution.

FREDERICK BRITTON . I am barman at the Post Office tavern; Mr. Smith is the landlord. On 15th May, at half past 5 o'clock in the afternoon, the prisoner came, and called for a glass of half and half—he gave me a counterfeit half crown—I handed it to my master, who out it in two, and gave the pieces to the policeman.

WILLIAM SMITH . I am landlord of the Post Office tavern. On 15th May, Britton gave me half a crown; I cut it in pieces and gave the pieces to the constable.

WILLIAM WALLER . I was called, and took the prisoner—he said, "Give me the half crown back, and I will pay you with other money;" the landlord refused, and gave me the pieces—I took the prisoner to the station—at the side entrance of the station there is a grating into the sewer—the prisoner put his hand into his pocket and dropped something on the grating and into the sewer—I had the grating taken up, and found this shilling (produced)—I searched the prisoner at the station and found two sixpences, two 4d. pieces, and six halfpence all good; this box, containing eight pieces of jewellery, and twenty-three duplicates relating to the articles

in the box—he gave his address, No. 9, Bedford-street, Walworth, I found he did not live there, but at No. 19.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . This half crown and shilling are bad.

Prisoner's Defence. I did not know the money was bad.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 47.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18550611-614

614. JOSEPH ROTTENSTEIN , stealing 1 coat, 1 pair of trowsers, and other articles, value 4l. 12s.; the goods of Louis Glassbeck.

LOUIS GLASSBECK . I live at No. 152, Houndsditch; the prisoner lodged there four nights before, but whether he lodged there on Sunday night, I do Dot know. On Monday morning, 28th May, I had a coat, two waistcoats, and other articles, in a cupboard; I put the key in my pocket, and went away at 5 o'clock—the landlord let me out—I came home at 5 o'clock and found my room door open, which I had left shut—I could not get my key into the cupboard lock, as it had been picked—I afterwards saw the prisoner with a pocket handkerchief of mine—I sent a man for a policeman, and gave him in charge—I then saw that he had got a scarf of mine round his neck, and at the station I found that he had got a shirt of mine on—this is my scarf (produced) I know this handkerchief by these two holes, one of which has been sewn up—I know this shirt because it was too small, and I used it for a night shirt and tore it.

PETER EDWARDS . I keep this coffee and lodging-house. The prisoner took a bedroom there on the second floor back—the last witness lodged on the same floor front—the prisoner left next morning about 9 o'clock, after Glassbeck was gone.

Prisoner. Q. When I left your place, did I take anything away? A. I did not see.

EDWARD BARNETT . I live in Union-row, Military-road. On this Sunday night, I slept in the same room with the prisoner—I left before him at a little before 8 o'clock in the morning—before I left I saw him go into the prosecutor's room, but had no suspicion; I did not see him bring anything away.

THOMAS BLOWER (City policeman. 616). I took the prisoner and found these things on him, and a key which fits the prosecutor's room door.

Prisoner. Q. I was three times at the Mansion House, and you said nothing about the key then? A. No; but I have been and tried it since, and unlocked the door with it.

LOUIS GLASSBECK re-examined. I knew the prisoner two years ago—1 had cautioned the landlord two nights before not to take him in—he used to come to an hotel in the Minories, and robbed a captain of a watch—I did not give him leave to take my things.


(The prisoner was further charged with having been before convicted.).

GEORGE SCOTT . I produce a certificate—(read: Central Criminal Court, Joseph Rottenstein, Convicted Oct. 1854, of stealing towels and other goods, having then been before convicted. Confined six months)—I was present—the prisoner is the man.

GUILTY.** Aged 23.— Four Years Penal Servitude.

OLD COURT.—Wednesday, June 13th, 1855.


Before Mr. Baron Parke and the Third Jury.

Reference Number: t18550611-615

615. CHARLES HOWARD, WILLIAM STEWART , and CHARLES PINK , were indicted for feloniously killing and slaying Ann Legg: they were also charged on the Coroner's Inquisition with the like offence.

MR. PAYNE conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM BURTON (policeman, E 87). On Sunday evening, 20th May, about a quarter past 7 o'clock, I was in Tottenham Court-road, between Fitzroy-court and Grafton-street, and saw a cart being driven along; there were four men in it, three were sitting on the seat, and one behind—the prisoners are three of the men—Howard was driving—it was going at a very furious rate, the horse was galloping; it was on its wrong side of the road—it was about a yard and a half from the kerb when the accident happened ; it was going towards Oxford-street—Howard lashed the horse as soon as it passed me—between Grafton-street and London-street I saw a female crossing the road, from the east to the west—I did not see her till the cart had actually got up to her—she seemed to hesitate, and the wheel of the cart apparently knocked her down, and ran over her head and body—I saw her fall, and the cart go over her—that was on the west side, the same side as Tottenham Court chapel—after that, Howard commenced lashing his horse as hard as he was able; he did not stop—I went in pursuit of him as fast as I was able; I had got a bad hip, I could not run very fast—I sent another constable in pursuit, and I left, and went back to the woman—I afterwards saw her in University Hospital.

Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. How far did you see the cart before it went over the woman? A. About 100 yards—I did not see her until I actually saw her knocked down; she was then about a yard and a half from the kerb, on the west side—it appeared to me as if she saw or heard the cart, and was undecided whether to go on or to go back; if she had gone on instead of hesitating, she would have got out of the way, and would no doubt have been saved—there were no heaps of road scrapings near there, there were some in the New-road—there was a heap of mortar just before where the accident happened, about two yards from where the woman was—the cart went right in the middle of that, just before it came to the woman—the cart was about 120 yards from the New-road when I first saw it—I did not see it come across the New-road; the sewers were open in the New-road, and there were heaps of dirt thrown up there.

COURT. Q. Did you see Stewart or Pink do anything or were they merely sitting in the cart? A. I did not see them do anything—I did not see them encourage Howard to drive fast.

JOHN PULLIN . I am clerk to Mr. Kerrison, a tailor, or No. 428, Oxford-street On Sunday evening, 20th May, I was walking along Tottenham Court-road, about 10 minutes past 7 o'clock, and saw a cart going at a very rapid rate; the driver was whipping the horse smartly; it went faster after that—the cart went a little to the right, and the wheel went over a mound of earth that was in front of the kerb—that had the effect of giving the

horse a sudden jerk towards the direction where the woman was crossing at the time, and immediately afterwards I saw her knocked down by the horse and cart, and the cart went over her,

THOMAS CARNAGAN (policeman, E 116). I was in Tottenham Court-road on this Sunday evening, about a quarter past 7 o'clock—I saw the three prisoners in a little cart coming down the road, the horse was going at full gallop-Howard had the reins; he whipped the horse when it came opposite me—I afterwards took him into custody at the top of Crown-street—he was out of the cart then, and had hold of the reins—he had been drinking, and smelt of liquor.

Cross-examined Q. Did you call on him to stop at all when you saw them going in that way? A. No—I did not call, they were going past so quick, it was impossible.

EDWARD HARRIS (police sergeant, E 17). On the evening of 20th May, I was by Meux's brewery, and saw a light cart come up with three or four men in it; it struck the street post at the corner of Oxford-street and Tottenham Court-road, the horse was thrown down, and I saw one man lying by the side of the cart with his face bleeding—the two others then assisted to get the horse up, and they started on again—I called out to them to stop, thinking they might have done something wrong—they took no notice—I afterwards followed, and they were all taken into custody in Crown-street; they all appeared to be drunk.

Stewart. Q. When you came up did not I give you my address? A. Yes, you gave me your proper address—you stood still while I took your direction—you went quietly to the station.

HENRY MAUDSLEY . I was house surgeon at University College Hospital on Sunday night, 20th May, when Ann Legg was brought in—she was unconscious; she had a wound on the forehead about an inch in extent, not very deep, and another on the back of the head, about three inches in extent; that extended to the bone, and the skull was fractured—she died on Saturday morning—she was not at any time conscious, so as to be able to give an account of the accident—I was present at the post mortem examination—the injury to the head was the cause of death; there was also rupture of the spleen, and five ribs were broken—they were such injuries as would be produced by a cart going over her body—the injury to the head I should say was produced by the fall; the rupture of the spleen of itself might account for death.

EDWARD LEGO . I am a pianoforte maker, and live in Sussex-street, Tottenham Court-road. The deceased was my wife, her name was Ann Legg; she left home on the evening in question about 7 o'clock, to go to a place of worship—she was then in good health—I saw her next within half an hour at the University Hospital—she was about fifty-five years of age; she was an active person.

WILLIAM BURTON re-examine The horse was whipped, after the woman was run over; I cannot say that it went faster then, I was forty yards off—I heard no warning given to the deceased to get out of the way.

(Howard received a good character.)

HOWARD— GUILTY. Aged 29.—Strongly recommended to mercy by the

Jury.— Confined Three Months.


Before Mr. Justice Wightman.

Reference Number: t18550611-616

616. CAROLINE BARTOLI , feloniously killing and slaying William' Maxfield.—She was also charged, on the Coroner's Inquisition, with the like offence.

MR. CAARTBN conducted the Prosecution.

ELLEN HAWKES I live at No. 1, Clement's-lane, Strand; I was living with William Maxfield; I know Mrs. Holland, she did live at No. 1, Clement's-lane, in the same house as the prisoner. On Monday, 14th May, I and Maxfield were invited to go to tea with Mrs. Holland—Maxfield went up first and I afterwards—there were five of us altogether at tea, and seven afterwards—Mrs. Holland occupied the back room, second floor, and the prisoner the front—whilst we were at tea, the prisoner came and kicked up a dreadful disturbance outside the door, and kicked in the panel of the door—I did not see her—that was about 6 o'clock—that was the first thing I heard of her that evening—at the same time she called out, "Come out, you b—w—; I will have your life, Jenny Holland"—Maxfield got up and opened the door, and asked what she meant by kicking up that row. we were not disturbing her at all, she did not say anything to that—she was blaspheming and going on—I cannot say exactly the words—I did not hear her say anything about any clothes—Maxfield had nothing in his hand at the time—when he opened the door the prisoner did not come in, but she immediately threw a yellow dish at him, and another at me afterwards—the dish she threw at Maxfield struck him on the forehead, and he fell down, and the blood gushed out from his forehead—both the dishes were broken all to pieces—Maxfield was taken to the hospital by Jane Holland—I went afterwards, and saw his head partly dressed—he did not die till the 25th May—I saw him after his death—at the time this happened I was half and half; I was not to say drunk—the prisoner was mad drunk.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Maxfield had his head dressed at the hospital and then came out again, did he not? A. Yes—he did not comfort himself with a lot of drink; he had very little; he was too bad—he lived at No 33, King-street, Drury-lane, then—I took him into the hospital again on the following Monday; he then had erysipelas; he died on the Friday following—he was only out one day after he had his head dressed; that was on the Tuesday, and then he had very little to drink—I was with him all the time—I lived with him as his wife.

JANE HOLLAND . I take the name of Thomas Holland. On 14th May I was living at No. 43, Clement's-lane, in the second floor back room; the prisoner lived in the front room on the same floor—on that day, William Maxfield, Hawkes, and some other persons, were taking tea with me—whilst we were at tea the prisoner came up stairs with a policeman—she had before that said that I had taken some of her children's frocks away—I cannot say whether anything had occurred before that—I believe that was the beginning of the disturbance—in the afternoon she brought up two policemen, and said I had forced her door open and taken some of her children's frocks—Hawkes and Maxfield were in my room at the time—my door was shut and the policeman and her were outside—I heard her tell the policeman this outside—the policeman asked me for a candle, I gave him one, and he went and looked at the lock, and said she was a very wicked woman for so saying, for nothing of the kind had been done, and the children's frocks had been taken off the stairs, and she had them in her hand at the time—she then went down with the policeman, and I shut my door as the policeman told me to do—about half an hour afterwards she came up again, and violently kicked against my door, and said, "I want that b—w—, Jane Holland; I will have her out of the room"—Maxfield got up, opened the door, and told her to be quiet—he had no sooner spoken the words than

she heaved a dish at him; it struck him. and knocked him down, and he bled a great deal—I saw her throw another dish, which struck Hawkes on the forehead—I picked Maxfield up, and took him to the hospital—his wound was dressed there, and he afterwards returned to my house—I saw Griffiths there—at the time Maxfield went to the door he had not a poker in his hand, nor had Griffiths—I had only one poker in my room—they did not hold pokers over their heads at the prisoner, nothing of the kind.

Cross-examined. Q. You live with Griffiths, do you not? A. Yes; he is not out of the way; he is at work—he was not examined before the Magistrate—I had been drinking—Mary Ann Lock was not in the room at the time; she was there afterwards.

MARY ANN LOCK . I am the wife of David Lock, and live at No. 1, Clare-passage, Clare Market. On 14th May I was living in the same room with Mrs. Holland—my husband was not living there—I was not present on the day in question when they were having tea—I came in between 8 and 9 o'clock in the evening—Maxfield came in between 10 and 11 o'clock (they had been out drinking)—whilst I was in the room I saw Griffiths and Maxfield stand brandishing pokers over the prisoner's head—each man had a poker in his hand—the prisoner was in her own room; the door was wide open—they were aggravating each other—the expressions they used were dreadful, on the one side as well as the other—there were five of them: Maxfield, Griffiths, another man, and these two women—there was also another female and myself, but we had nothing to do with it—the other woman ran down to get a policeman—the men were brandishing the pokers over the prisoner's head in her own room—I saw her throw the dish at Maxfield—Hawkes and Holland were in their own room, or in the passage—the prisoner was a few yards from Maxfield when she threw the dish—they stood aggravating her, with the door open, and challenging her to come out to fight, and they would have her life, brandishing the pokers, and then she threw the dish—Maxfield got his poker out of Holland's room, and so did Griffith—I had been living with Mrs. Holland about five months—I will swear there were two pokers in her room—Maxfield staggered from the blow; he was not knocked down, he did not fall; he reeled against the bed-stead—I saw his head, it bled very much; it did not appear very much cut—Mrs. Holland took him to the hospital—next day I went with him to the hospital, and the surgeon extracted the pieces from his head, and I begged him, in the surgeon's presence, not to get drinking, for I said, "Erysipelas will take place, and that will cause your death perhaps"—he said I was an old fool for saying so—the prisoner said she was very sorry for it, she did not intend to do anything; and he said to her in the room, "I had no business to be there; it serves me well right what I have met with."

Cross-examined. Q. Were you in the room at the time when something was said about some frocks having been taken? A. Yes, I was—I heard the prisoner say, "Some one has broken open my door, and taken three of ray children's frocks out of the room"—she spoke to Holland about it, and they abused each other dreadfully—after that the prisoner went into her own room, and the others were in their room, aggravating as well as they could—they went out to get some beer—Maxfield brought in the first half gallon and then went for another—I did not drink any, I was perfectly sober, and I was the only one that was; they were all very drunk—they were abusing the prisoner, and singing songs to aggravate her, all the time they were drinking the beer—then the two men took the pokers and held them over her head, threatening to strike her, and she then threw the dish

—she had not it in her hand, but she turned round and took it off the table, and threw it—she was in her own room at the time.

JAMES TUTIN . I was house surgeon at King's College Hospital, when Maxfield came there about 10 o'clock, on Tuesday morning, 15th May—he had been there the evening before, and was seen by the house physician—I examined his head—he had two wounds on the forehead, each about three quarters of an inch in length, the upper one extending throughout its whole extent to the bone of the skull; the under one was not so deep—I removed several small portions of earthenware from the upper wound—they were contused and lacerated wounds—I thought they would probably go on favourably—I dressed them—he continued to come to the hospital until 21st May, when considerable erysipelas appeared on the face of the scalp in the neighbourhood of the wound—he was then admitted as an in-patient—I continued to attend him—he died on the morning of the 25th—I have no doubt his death was caused by the erysipelas, which resulted from the scalp wound—those wounds might have been caused by an earthenware dish thrown.

Cross-examined. Q. They were not in themselves dangerous wounds? A. No, only in the event of erysipelas coming on—scalp wounds very often heal—intemperate habits would very much expose him to erysipelas, and might tend to bring it on.

MR. CAARTEN. Q. In what state was he when you first saw him? A. Sober—I cannot say that I saw him every day between then and the 21st; I should say I saw him two or three times—he was always sober.

COURT. Q. Might this wound of itself have produced erysipelas? A. Yes—he told me that some time before the accident he had had very little food, and had been living principally on drink—I did not learn from him what his habits were afterwards—erjrsipelas might or might not result from such wounds.

JOHN PHILLIPS . I am street keeper of the parish of St. Clement Danes—I took the prisoner into custody—I told her it was for causing the death of a man named Maxfield—she said she was very sorry that the circumstance had happened; that they would have! murdered her if they could—she cried very much.


Reference Number: t18550611-617

617. PIETRO FELOY , feloniously sending to Natali Ferrario 4 ounces of gunpowder and 12 phosphorus matches, with intent to burn him.

MR. BALLANTINE and METCALFE conducted the Prosecution.

NATALI FERRARIO (through an interpreter). I am a confectioner at No. 103, Holborn-hill—I have known the prisoner for eight years—he was in partnership with me four years ago—the first partnership was dissolved in 1851—the second partnership was dissolved in April this year—there was some dispute about the young man in the employment—I paid the prisoner sixty odd sovereigns at the dissolution, and everything was settled on both sides—after that, for about a month, the prisoner continued to come to my shop, and gave me good day as a friend—on Friday, 25th May, I received a package by post, about 12 o'clock in the day—my nephew opened it in my presence; it contained about four ounces of powder and twelve phosphorus matches, six at each side of the box; they were on some sand paper, and were attached to a piece of ribbon, which protruded from each side of the box—this is it (produced)—I took it from the postman, and examined it—the inscription was "Ferrario"—there were two addresses—inside was "Joseph Ferrario"—at the time I received it, my nephew was out, and

when he came home I delivered it to him, because it was directed to him—I believe this to be the prisoner's writing—the writing inside is on a piece of leather; it is "Signor Giuseppe Ferrario;" I believe that to be the same handwriting—during nine months of the partnership, I used to see the prisoner's writing every week—the matches were upon the sand paper—if they had ignited, it would have communicated with the powder.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Do you and the prisoner come from the same part of Italy? A. Yes—there are different dialects of the Italian language—this is not the proper way to spell my name—our business was selling penny ices—we went to the theatre together the same evening that we dissolved partnership, and enjoyed ourselves—since then he has carried on business in the same way in Fleet-street—I have no ill feeling towards him—I gave him a reference to take the shop in Fleet-street.

JOHN CUMMIN . I am a barometer maker, and live at No. 1, Newcastle-place, Clerkenwell—I know the prisoner—I was present in Jan. last when an agreement was drawn up between him and Felony—I made the agreement—I saw the prisoner write once on the agreement, and once on a receipt for 60l.—to the best of my belief, according to the agreement and receipt, and according to another letter that was sent some time ago when there was some difference between them, this is the prisoner's writing, and the inside piece also.

Cross-examined. Q. The letter was before the partnership was dissolved? A. Yes—I only saw him write twice.

GEORGE FREDERICK LEONARD MULLINEAUX (City policeman. 293). I took the prisoner into custody on 28th May—I told him he was charged with sending this packet—he said he was innocent, and he would go along with me anywhere—I searched him, but found nothing that had reference to this matter—I went to his house next morning, and on the mantel shelf I found three or four matches corresponding with those in the case; they are common matches—in an earthenware pan in the room I found this brad awl, which just corresponds with two holes in the lid of the case.

Q. It is a common sort of brad awl? A. Yes—I have been told that the prisoner was formerly a picture frame maker, and used an instrument of this kind in his trade—I found no gunpowder—I found three or four of these matches on the mantelpiece, and some in the pocket of a waistcoat which I found in the room—I know that he smokes.

NATALI FERRARIO re-examined. My nephew's name is Giuseppe Ferrario; he lives with me—I know of no quarrel between him and the prisoner—I cannot say whether the prisoner knew that my name was Natali; he never called me so; he always called me Ferrario—my name is signed to the partnership articles.

(The prisoner received a good character.)


Before Mr. Baron Parke.

Reference Number: t18550611-618

618. CHARLES GREEN , embezzling the sums of 1l. 4s. and 12s., which he had received on account of John Nicholls, his master.—2nd COUNT, stealing 3 sacks of potatoes, value 36s.; the goods of his said master.

MR. PARRY conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN NICHOLLS . I am a farmer, and have a farm at Enfield of 198 acres. I reside at Laycock's-dairy, Islington. The prisoner was my farm bailiff—he had 17s. a week, house rent, firing, and vegetables—I grow a great many potatoes, and have been in the habit of selling them at Spitalfields and Covent Garden markets—he was not allowed to sell any for me in the

neighbourhood—there was an exception as to some policemen, but those I sold myself—the prisoner was not allowed to sell anything to any person—I never authorised him to sell two sacks of potatoes to Mr. Ellis and one to Mr. Starr—if he has sold them, he has not accounted to me for, the money—there is a book in which it was his duty to make entries—it is here—there is no entry of those sales—he never told me anything about it—I heard of it, and gave him in charge.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Did you ask him to explain it? A. I told him he had delivered sacks of potatoes to Ellis, but had not accounted for them—he said he had forgotten it, or something of that sort—I did not mention to him about Starr—he has been five or six years in my service, altogether, and farm bailiff about three—he had the management of the form—I do not whether he can read and write; I believe he cannot—his daughter kept his book—he had very few accounts to keep, only the account of the week's wages—sometimes he paid the men, and sometimes I did—I did not give him authority to sell 3 tons 4 1/2 cwt. of Shaw potatoes—I never authorised him to sell any potatoes—I have sometimes sold small quantities myself to Colonel Connaught's groom, and to four policemen a sack each—one of my men delivered them, I do not know which—I made out tickets for them in the book, and nothing ought to go out of the house without a ticket—I never tore a delivery order out of the book, and said there was no occasion for one for so small a quantity—the prisoner had not to advance money to pay wages; I sent it down every Saturday when I did not go myself—sometimes there might be a little left from Saturday night—sometimes I go to the farm two or three times a week, and sometimes I stop away for two or three weeks together—the prisoner paid me the money for the potatoes sold to the policemen.

JAMES WREN . I am a labourer in Mr. Nicholls's service. At the latter end of March the prisoner directed me to take two sacks of Ware potatoes to Mr. Ellis's, at the King's Arms—I took them there and left them, and brought back the empty sacks—two or three days afterwards the prisoner directed me to take a sack of potatoes to Mr. Starr—I did so.

Cross-examined. Q. They were delivered in the usual way; there was no concealment about it? A. No—I did it openly.

JOHN ELLIS . I keep the King's Arms. On 26th March I bought two sacks of potatoes of the prisoner—I paid him for them the same morning—he came for the money—I paid him 24s.

Cross-examined. Q. When did you first speak to him about getting you some potatoes? A. I do not know when it was—an old gentleman, named Glendenning, who lives with me, spoke to him first about it.

EDWARD STARR . I am a hay carter, at Enfield. I bought a sack of potatoes of the prisoner at the latter end of March, and paid him 12s. for them—I did not know he had no authority to sell them—he told me he was going to sell Mr. Cadman, my neighbour, a sack, and I told him he might sell me one at the same time.

Cross-examined. Q. Was 12s. a fair price? A. Yes, the market price.

JOHN NICHOLLS re-examined. I knew of the sale to Cadman—I sold those myself—I did not after the planting in April tell the prisoner that he might sell some to Mr. Munro—he said to me one day, "I hear that Mr. Munro wants some plants," and I said, "Go and ask him," but that was not selling them—I believe that was with reference to Shaw potatoes—I did not tell him as I had got so many he might sell them in the best way he could.

JAMES BRIDGER (policeman, N 372). I took the prisoner into custody—I told him he was charged with stealing three sacks of potatoes from Mr. Nicholls—after hesitating a little while he said he was sorry for it, and he forgot to book it.

RICHARD GLENDENNING . I live at the King's Arms; I am an old Bow-street officer. Early last year I began to inquire of the prisoner for two sacks of potatoes, and he said he would apply to his master to get them for me—he said at first he thought there was not much chance of my getting them at present—I mentioned it to him two or three times afterwards, still he had not spoken to his master—they were brought to me some time at the latter end of March, and Ellis, my nephew, paid for them.

(The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY. Aged 56.—Strongly recommended to mercy by the Jury. Confined Two Months.

NEW COURT.—Wednesday, June 13th. 1855.


Before Mr. Recorder and the Fifth Jury.

Reference Number: t18550611-619

619. JAMES HAZELL , stealing 1 handkerchief, value 2s. 6d.; the goods of John Pitcairn, from his person: to which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Two Years.

Reference Number: t18550611-620

620. MARK COLLYANBINE , stealing 1s.; the moneys of William Henry Beaton, his master: to which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Four Months.

Reference Number: t18550611-621

621. JOHN CAILS , stealing 31bs. 6 oz. weight of copper, value 3s.; the goods of Edmond Pontifex and another, his masters: to which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 49.— Confined Six Months.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

Reference Number: t18550611-622

622. HENRY HARVEY , feloniously forging and uttering a receipt for 1l. 17s. 6d. with intent to defraud.

MR. ROBINSON conducted the Prosecution.

JOSHUA EAST . I live at No. 7, Curzon-street, May-fair, and am a job master and contractor; I have one partner. I have an order to supply the army with horses; in consequence of that I was at Banbury fair on 23rd Jan., or about that time—I had before employed the prisoner a few times to bring horses to town—on that occasion the prisoner had charge of twenty-one horses, which he was entrusted to bring to Woolwich—the instructions were given to him by my foreman, who is not here—I was there when the prisoner came away with the horses—I know of their being delivered at Woolwich—I did not see any money given to the prisoner when he left—he has on former occasions delivered vouchers; it is always done—I received this letter from Mrs. Burnham, dated 20th March—I showed it to the prisoner, and read it to him, when he was taken, at Mr. Saul's livery stable, in Finsbury—I received two letters from Mrs. Burnhain—the first time I saw the prisoner after receiving a letter from her was at Beverley, in Yorkshire—I called his attention to the bills—I asked him if

they were correct—he said, "Yes"—I said, "I am told that they are not"—he assured me that they were—I think I did not see him again till I saw him at Saul's, I think on 23rd May—I called him, and said I wanted to speak to him about these bills—I showed them to him, and he said, "They are all right"—I showed to him this letter—this account was in it—(read:—"Sir, I inclose to you a copy of the account I delivered to Henry Harvey, in my own handwriting. The bill you inclosed to me is not my writing, nor the writing of any one on my premises. My account was 1l. 4s. 6d. He paid me 1l. 2s., and requested me to put "Paid" to the bill, and said he would pay the ostler in the yard. The bill is, hay for horses, 1l. 1s.; bed, 1s.; ostler, 2s. 6d.—1l. 4s. 6d")

Q. What did the prisoner say? A. He said, "I will make it right"—I asked him who wrote that bill—he said, "I did"—I said, "Who wrote Mrs. Burnham?"—he said, "I did"—I gave him into custody.

Cross-examined by MR. RIBTON. Q. HOW long have you known him? A. I have seen him many years about—I think he has probably never been entrusted with money before—he may have been with our horses several times—I considered him a trustworthy man—I had this conversation with him about 11 o'clock in the morning probably, and he said he would make it all right, or settle with me—this was in May—I think he had had the care of some horses in the mean time; he might have been three or four times—I do not think he has been entrusted with money—I would not swear that he has not—when I first mentioned about the state of the account to him, he said it was all right—I told him we had had some communication, and he said the accounts were right—I cannot recollect what month that was in—I did not show him any account then—this is the account he gave when he settled with my clerk—he presented this account to my clerk, and it came to me—I did not show him this account the first time I spoke to him—I had not got it then—I cannot say whether he had the charge of any horses the first time I spoke to him—he had not come away from the fair—he tells me has a wife and family—I did not write a letter to Mrs. Burnham.

WILLIAM KING . I live at Waltham Cross, and am foreman to Messrs, Dyson and East. I was at Woolwich when the prisoner brought those horses there in Jan.—he presented this bill to me for the whole amount—he produced the vouchers to me; I paid him, amongst the rest, this for 1l. 17s. 10d., signed by Ann Burnham—I made him sign the receipts, because I had my doubts about this one.

Cross-examined. Q. What is this on the back of it? A. bill that he paid at the White Hart public house, at Southall—I cannot say what time he arrived at Woolwich with the horses, I was not there—I came up the morning that the horses were passed by the veterinary surgeon—I first saw the prisoner between 9 and 10 o'clock in the morning on Wednesday, 31st Jan.; I told him to get his bills made out, and I would settle with him—that was about 11 o'clock, at Woolwich garrison—he was in the stable—I told him to make out his bills, and I would settle with him before he left, and he said he would do so—he presented this bill from 12 to 1 o'clock; I met him by appointment in the public house opposite, and there he presented this bill—here is "Bicester, 1l. 17s. 10d.," and several other items, making 15l. 3s. 5d. in all—he told me 11l. had been given him at starting, and I paid him the difference—I cannot tell how many days it generally takes to bring horses from Banbury to Woolwich—the horses were in good condition when they came.

JOSHUA EAST re-examined. It would take about four days to bring the

horses from Banbury to Woolwich—he would generally arrive the day before he was settled with.

ANN BURNHAM . I keep the White Hart, at Bicester. In Jan. the prisoner came to my house with fourteen horses; he remained there that night, and the next morning he asked for the amount he had to pay—the charge made to him was 1l. 2s.—my attention was called to this amount on the Friday following by what the ostler said to me; I recollected the amount first charged—it was hay, 1l. 1s. and bed, 1s. making 1l. 2s. and the prisoner asked me to add to the bill 2s. 6d. for the ostler, and he asked me to put "Paid" to the bill, and said he would give the ostler 2s. 6d. in the yard—he then paid me 1l. 2s. and I gave him the bill for 1l. 4s. 6d. which I had put my name to—after he had paid, he got up from the breakfast table and went and took the horses, and went away—this bill is not my writing—in consequence of what I heard, I wrote a letter to Mr. East.

Cross-examined. Q. Is this at all like your writing? A. No, not at all like it—I have bill heads; I had not then—this is the copy that I sent to Mr. East—I generally write my name Ann—the charge for the ostler is what is usually paid—I do not generally put down the money for the ostler—I had only fourteen horses there—the prisoner asked if I had corn for them—I had not—I know he went for corn—I do not know what he bought—I had seen him before at my house.

MR. ROBINSON. Q. You wrote this letter to Mr. East? A. Yes—it was in consequence of a statement the ostler made to me that I stated what I did in this letter.

JAMES SMITH . My father is a corn chandler, at Bicester. About five months ago an order came from the house of the last witness for oats, and I took a bushel and a half of oats to the White Hart—I cannot swear that I saw the prisoner, I saw a man resembling him; he gave me a sovereign, I got change, and kept 6s. and gave him the rest—he afterwards came with the ostler, and had another half bushel of oats, and paid me 2s.

Cross-examined. Q. What time did he come first? A. About 4 o'clock in the afternoon—he did not come himself, he sent a boy—the order was delivered by the boy to my mother—I took the corn myself—it was a bushel and a half—I can undertake to swear it was a bushel and a half—it was not two bushels—I will swear it was not—in the evening the prisoner and the ostler came—I do not know how many horses there were—supposing there were fourteen, I do not know whether a bushel and a half would be enough for them—the prisoner came the second time, and I gave him half a bushel—I will swear it was not a bushel—the second time he paid me—I am speaking of what took place in Jan.—my father spoke first to me about this matter last Saturday—that was the first time I had been spoken to about something that took place on 21st Jan.—my memory is so good that I can speak about that—the bill was sent for about two months ago—that was in April last—that was the first time my attention was drawn to it—in April my attention was called to what took place in Jan.—we are selling corn every day—we have a very good business—sometimes we sell a couple of dozen bushels in a day—I made no entry of this at the time—there was no other man in the stable when I brought the corn to him—I believe there were two boys.

MR. ROBINSON. Q. DO you recollect receiving 6s. for it? A. Yes; I got change for a sovereign, and gave him 14s.

JOSEPH HUGGETT . I am an officer. I took the prisoner into custody on 23rd May, at Saul's livery stable—Mr. East gave me this bill of 1l. 17s. 10d.—I showed it to the prisoner; I told him I was an officer, and

I should apprehend him on a charge of obtaining a sum of money on a forged instrument—he said, "I have nothing to say"—I told him to go and get his hat, and consider himself in my custody—he said, "Wait a moment, I will see if I can settle with Mr. East"—he said he hoped Mr. East would be lenient, he had a wife and two children.

MR. RIBTON to Mr. EAST. Q. In addition to corn, is bran given to horses on a journey? A. Sometimes, if it is necessary.

(The prisoner received a good character.)


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623. WILLIAM BLOWER and ALBERT PEARL , burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of Samuel Ford, at St. Mary's, Islington, with intent to steal.

MR. RIBTON conducted the Prosecution.

SAMUEL FORD . I live at No. 3, Sutherland-terrace, Caledonian-road. On 17th May, I made a communication to the police, and two policemen came and remained in my house that night—nothing happened that night—they were in the house on the 18th and on the 19th—on the night of the 21st they were on the first floor landing in the first part of the night—they went down to the parlour about 3 o'clock—a little after 3, I heard a latch key go in the door, and the latch was raised, and immediately after I heard a scuffle; I went down and saw the prisoners in the custody of the police—I lent a hand, and they were secured—the door was on the latch when I left it—it was shut close.

Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. What are you? A. I am manager of a shoe business for Mr. Pocock—it is not my business—I have been there about fifteen months—I am not a sporting character at all—I never set any traps to catch vermin—I have sometimes played at skittles—I know Blower—I never played at skittles with him in my life—I never had any transaction with him about skittles—I know Charles Cane—I will swear I never made bets with Blower in presence of Cane, or played at skittles with him—I began to watch on 17th May—I was up the whole night—I was on the sofa in the parlour—I did not keep awake all Friday night—I was in bed about two hours—there are three floors in the house—on Saturday night I did not have more than two hours' sleep—I was on the bed, but not undressed—On the night between the Sunday and Monday this took place, a little after 3 o'clock—the two policemen that were there on the first night were not the same who were there on the following nights—the two that watched on Friday continued down to Sunday—they did not follow me about the house—we sat together and watched generally—I had very little to eat because I was in an excitement—I was in a continual state of excitement from Friday to Sunday—I had a very small portion of beer to drink—I furnished the policemen with beer every night—I can say positively there was not more than three pints of beer any night—we had half a pint of gin—I am sure I did not take more than a glass, and there was always a great portion of what I had left—the two policemen were very abstemious ones—we had gin every night—I suppose it remained on the table—on the night in question I was on the first floor, sitting about the centre of the room, and on the sofa—Mr. Hardy, my lodger, occupies that floor—he was sitting with me—I heard the latch of the street door raised, heard a scuffle, and soon afterwards I went down, in a minute, or a minute and a half afterwards—I know both the prisoners—we had had things stolen from the door of the shop, but no one had broken in.

MR. RIBTON. Q. The policemen remained there all night, and you found it necessary to give them some refreshment? A. Yes.

HENRY REDSTALL (policeman, N 381). I was at the last witness's house for three nights—I was there on the night of the 20th, and the morning of 21st May—I went there between 10 and 11 o'clock at night—I remained on the landing up stairs—I came down about ten minutes before 3 o'clock to the back parlour—my brother officer came down just after me—I had my shoes off—I heard some one put a key in the front door and open it—I knew what state the door had been in—the latch was down—I staid perhaps a couple of minutes—I then came one step into the passage—I closed the door, rushed forward, and seized the prisoner Blower, and my brother constable took the other prisoner—I found on Blower a purse and three keys—neither of them would raise the latch—we had refreshment while we were there—one night we had half a pint of beer at supper, between 9 and 10 o'clock—nothing afterwards—we had something on the other night.

Cross-examined. Q. At what time did you begin to get something to eat? A. Perhaps 10 o'clock—we had something like half a pint of beer—we took nothing afterwards—we sat down—the landlord went up stairs the first night—there might have been a drop of gin, but I did not have it—there was some gin in the house—we might have taken it—we were told that it was there to drink if we liked, but we did not wish to take anything to send us to sleep—we were on the landing up stairs till nearly the period when this latch was lifted—we had come down, it might be a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes before—the other officer came down a minute or two after me—I came down to try the door—it was fastened—we heard a slight noise, but it was shut—we thought they would come that night; they had come one or two nights previous—the second night they came and opened the door, and got in, but went away again—we were in the front shop—we do not get any extra expenses for watching, unless the person feels disposed to give us a reward—I was sent there by my superior officer.

GEORGE SIMS (policeman, N 386). I was in the house with the last witness on 20th May—I came down to the back parlour—soon after 3 o'clock 1 heard a key come in the door, and the latch turn—I heard somebody come in—we stood very still and quiet, and heard the door closed—after some seconds we' rushed upon them—I saw the prisoners—we seized them—I found on Pearl a tobacco box, some matches, a pocket book, a knife, and two cards which he tried to swallow—the prosecutor came down and gave us assistance.

Cross-examined. Q. You were there watching from Friday till Monday morning? A. Yes—we were very still during the evening—we were on the landing up stairs; I had my boots on—I had nothing to eat during the whole night, nor the other officer—I had nothing to drink—I had some gin and water—I had supper—I had nothing to eat or drink during the night, after they were gone to bed—we do not pretend to be on duty before they go to bed—I could not positively swear that we had not something to eat every night that we were there—Pearl tried to swallow these cards; he got them partly in his mouth—I did not strike him in going to the station; I walked by his side—I searched him before I got him to the station—I took the cards from him—I thought they were of no use, and gave them to him again; he had them in his mouth, and made an effort as if he were going to swallow them—the house is in the parish of St. Mary, Islington.

(Blower received a good character.)


Confined Twelve Months.

PEARL— GUILTY . Aged 21.

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624. CHARLES COX , stealing 1 pistol, value 12s. 6d.; the goods of Frederick John Burnes, his master.

WILLIAM GREENWOOD . I am assistant to Mr. Frederick John Burnes, a gun maker. The prisoner had been in his employ eleven weeks and a half—we missed a number of pistols.

EDWARD HENRY JONES . I am assistant to Mr. Barker, a pawnbroker, of Aldgate. On 14th Feb. the prisoner pawned a pistol—I did not take it in, but on the 15th he brought another, about 1 o'clock in the day, and one of the young men sent him back; I did not see him then—about 6 o'clock he came and brought me this paper to certify that the pistol belonged to his brother; I saw that it was badly written and spelt—I said I was not satisfied, he must go back and send his brother—I sent him back, and kept the paper and the pistol.

WILLIAM GREENWOOD re-examined. We lost several pistols—I know this pistol; it is the property of Mr. Burnes—I cannot tell exactly when it was safe—it was there in Jan.—it was kept in a drawer at the back of the counter—we missed them by one being taken of a pair; there were several odd ones left—we saw that a number had been taken, as there were vacant places.

HENRY ASLETT . I am porter to Mr. Burnes. This paper is the prisoner's writing.

CORNELIUS BASSETT (City policeman) I met the prisoner, and took him into custody—I said it was for taking pistols from Mr. Burnes's, in Tower-street—he said, "Where shall I be taken)"—I said, "Before the Lord Mayor, at the Mansion House"—he said, "What do you think I shall get for it)"—I said, "I don't know, that remains to be seen."

Prisoner's Defence. I was at work at the place; the boy took a pair of pistols, and he got let off, and I took a pair; I got let off, and was taken again.


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625. CHARLES FAIRBANK , feloniously forging and uttering on 8th May, a request for the delivery of 6 watches; also. on 8th May, another request for the delivery of 6 watches; also, on 14th April, one other request for the delivery of 6 watches, with intent to defraud: to which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 26.— Six Years' Penal Servitude.

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626. MARY MCGEE , burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of Alexander Scott, at St. George's-in-the-East, and stealing therein 1 desk, 1 tea caddy, and 1 looking glass, value 13s, his property.

ANN SCOTT . I am the wife of Alexander Scott, of Palmer's-folly, St. George's-in-the-East. At 4 o'clock in the morning of 10th May, I missed from my son's room a writing desk—I was in the room at 2 o'clock that morning, and it was all right—my son was in the room, and in bed; he is twenty-two years old—the desk was there, and the looking glass and tea caddy—the blind was down, and the window safe—the window opens into the street—it is a ground floor room—it is a sash window; it was shut down close, there is no fastening to it—I am sure it was shut down—about 4 o'clock in the morning, I was called by my son—I went into the room, and missed the desk, glass, and tea caddy, and the blind was pulled down.

JOHN KNIGHT . I am the son of the last witness, and live in the same house. I have a room to myself—I got up between 3 and 4 o'clock that morning to go to work—I saw the window open—I missed the blind; I went outside and picked it up; I missed the desk, tea caddy, and looking glass—

I went to bed between 9 and 10 o'clock; all was safe then, and the window shut down.

WILLIAM WALKER (policeman. K 56). I know Mrs. Scott's house; it is in the parish of St. George's-in-the-East—I met the prisoner on the morning after the robbery in Fox's-lane, Shadwell; she had this writing desk with her—I asked her about it; she said she had brought it from home—the second time she said she had got it from a woman; she had had a drop of something to drink over night, and was going to pawn it—I took her to the station; then took her to her lodging, and she there produced this looking glass.

Prisoner's Defence. Mrs. Mills came and asked me to take this desk to pawn, which I did, not knowing it to have been stolen; she left the looking glass at my place.


THIRD COURT.—Wednesday, June 13th. 1855.

PRESENT—Mr. Ald. FARNCOMB; Mr. Ald. WIRE; Mr. Ald ROSE; and


Before Russell Gurney, Esq., and the Seventh Jury,

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627. HONORA HOGAN , stealing 1 cloak, 1 petticoat, and other articles, value 5l. and 8l. in money; the property of Josiah Pailby, her master: to which she

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18550611-628

628. JOHN WILLIAMS , unlawfully obtaining, by false pretences, divers books and engravings, value 2,000l., the property of Richard Allen Sprigg.

MESSRS. BALLANTINE and PARRY conducted the Prosecution.

RICHARD ALLEN SPRIGG . I am now a bookseller, carrying on business at 106, Great Russell-street, near the British Museum. I have known the prisoner about fourteen years, during which time I have been very intimate with him, and had great confidence in him—formerly I was not in the bookselling trade, but owing to matters between me and the prisoner, the house having been distrained for rent by the Duke of Bedford, I paid him out, and therefore became possessed of the business—it is my sole and entire business, I carried it on under the name of Atchley and Co.—my wife's maiden name was Atchley, and her sisters trustees, have advanced money to enable me to carry on the business—after I entered into the business, I entered into an engagement with the prisoner, and he undertook to get orders at 10 per cent, commission; and when they were obtained I delivered the orders to him to deliver to the customers; unless he had some of our own works when he had them out to show—publications which he had out with him he would sometimes sell—last Dec. a gentleman called on me to inquire about a copy of Roberta's "Holy Land"—I understood that his name was Brocklehurst, and told the prisoner that he had better see him—he told me that he had called on him, and ascertained that it was not he who had called, but that he had become a customer—he is a member of Parliament, and lives in Milk-street, Cheapside—the prisoner said that he had bought two copies of Digby Wyatt's book, value eight guineas each—I believed his statement to be true, and delivered to him the two copies for

Mr. Brocklehurst—a day or two after that, the prisoner left a memorandum for me, a further order from Mr. Brocklehurst, who, he said, had given a further order for two copies of "Belgian Architecture, "two copies of Roberts's "Holy Land, "and two copies of Finden's "British Gallery of Art"—the value of those six books was 146l. 16s.—the after part of this account book (produced) is in my writing; I have written underneath the order at the same time—in Dec. the prisoner came to me and said that the Earl of Bradford wished to see a coloured copy of the "Holy Land," to compare it with his own, as he wished to show it to a lady who wanted a copy—I had one copy in stock which I gave to him to deliver to the Earl of Bradford; it was arranged that the price was to be 110l., as it was rather scarce; it was worth that—on 5th Jan., the prisoner desired me to enter it to the Earl of Bradford, and he would pay for it—I have not seen that book since, and have not been paid for it—on Oct. 30th, 1854, the prisoner had one volume of the "Holy Land," to show to Lord Calthorpe, and brought me the order, that Lord Calthorpe would take it at 95l—I did not see it again till I found it at Mr. Sutherland's, the bookseller's—(I had sent it to Lord Calthorpe by the prisoner and a young man named Henry Smith, in a cab—about Nov., 1854, the prisoner brought me word that Mr. Leaf, of Old; 'Change, had recommended Mr. Cotton to purchase books, and also a Mr. Gurney; he then brought me an order from Mr. Cotton for "Naah's Windsor," coloured, value 81l., publishing price; but he said that he had engaged to sell it at 19l—afterwards he gave me a further order from Mr. Cotton, and an order from Mr. Gurney, of No. 7, St. James's-square, a friend of Mr. Leafs—in Jan. 1855, the prisoner ordered for Mr. Cotton, a copy of Finden's "Gallery of Art, "a coloured copy of "Mexico," and the "Land-Steward; "this memorandum that I am looking at is not in my writing, but I saw it at the time it was, written, it is a day book which I refer to hour by hour; the date I am looking at is Nov. 30th—the prisoner gave me an order for an original copy of Roberts's "Holy Land, "in four volumes, in reference to Mr. Cotton—he said that Mr. Cotton wished to present it to Mr. Hubbard; the name of Hubbard is put here over Cotton, and the prisoner had the books for that purpose, the value of them is 57l. 15s.—he also brought an order on 6th Nov., alleging it to come from Mr. Cotton, for two copies of Finden's "Gallery of Art" one plain and one India—the prisoner has been transacting business for a gentleman named Meesom—I have an entry here on 21st Nov., from which I remember that the prisoner had ordered a copy of a work on Belgium, value eight guineas, some time before I had got it—he said that Mr. Meesom also wanted a copy for Sir Charles Barry—on 23rd Nov. the prisoner said that Mr. Laws had ordered a copy of "Belgian Architecture and Sculpture, "the value of that is eight guineas—here is the entry—on 6th Dec he ordered a copy of the same work for Earl de Grey, and it was handed to him—since the investigation I have seen all the books that are in this list but one, Digby Wyatt's—I discovered this by writing for the account to Mr. Leaf, Mr. Brocklehurst, and one or two more, and in consequence of the replies I received, I spoke to the prisoner; either the same day or the day following; it was about the 5th Feb.—I said, "Mr. Brocklehurst and Mr. Leaf have written to me, that they have no accounts, and have nothing owing"—he said, "There must be some mistake, I will go and see them"—I received a letter from Captain Leland, and about 7th Feb. met the prisoner in the street, and told him that I had received a letter from a gentleman, and had been with it to Messrs. Cox and Greenwood's, to see the secretary to Captain Leland, showed him the

letter, and that he said it was a forgery—he at first denied it; he said, "No, it is not;" he afterwards said, "Come with me, and I will make you all the recompense "or "reparation I can"—I went with him to his house, in Berners-street—he said nothing going along, but when he got there he told his wife that he had used me very ill, and he wished to give up all that he had got; he went out of the house for a short time and brought back a quantity of duplicates which he gave me, merely saying that he had not used me well, and that was all he had to give me—in a day or two he came to my warehouse, and I asked him to go over the book with me, and say who it was that did owe me, that I might not write to them, and ask for what was not due—he did so, and said that the order he had given me from Lord Calthorpe was false; and as regarded Mr. Cotton, Mr. Leaf, Mr. Brocklehurst, Lord de Grey, Mr. Meesom, and Lord Bradford, the same; and that all others which he had given me were false—these (produced) are some of the duplicates I received from him; some of them relate to these particular books—the amount he has had upon them is about 700l.

Cross-examined by MR. COOPER. Q. I believe you first became acquainted with the prisoner in 1838? A. 1841, I find—he was carrying on business as a bookseller in 1838; in Great Russell-street, Bloomsbury—I was at that time a bookseller in Holborn—I was also a bill discounter, and discounted bills for friends—I had three or four friends who would either ask me to get them done for them, or do them—I asked 5 per cent, interest—while 1 was carrying on business some bills came to me of which the prisoner was the drawer and acceptor—I cashed some bills of his—he knew a person named Winkles, who was a friend of mine—those bills were all met but one—I took the prisoner's business first of all under a distress for rent—I had several communications with the prisoner about it while he was in prison—he did not tell me that it was well worth having, and if the acceptances were paid, I might find it worth having—I did not buy up his debts, I assisted him in meeting them—I cannot tell what the amount of them was at that time—I cannot say what sum I gave or lent him, it was at various times—I took to the business in Great Russell-street, Bloomsbury, under the distress; I paid the Duke of Bedford out, who had distrained for rent—there was not at that time an agreement between the prisoner and me about buying the Duke of Bedford out, but he said that he would undertake to carry it on at so much per week, if I would take it—I carried it on till 1845.

Q. Did not you give John Bryant 3l. 10s. or 3l. 15s. for a debt of 56l.? A. If it was so, it was given to the prisoner to give to him, but I never obtained the debt—there was no agreement whatever between me and the prisoner as to his repayment to me of these debts—I thought he was very much pressed, and assisted him—I gained nothing by it, except his services—I had seen him two or three times before in my life—he sent for me while he was in prison, and said that those parties had not used him well, and, from his assertions, I thought so—there was no amount that I did not pay—I did not pay 100l. or 50l.—I do not know whether I paid 40l.—I paid about 50l. to get the Duke of Bedford out—the stock of books at that time was not worth 25l.—that house I had of another party, and cave 30l., I think, for the lease—there were fixtures in the shop—it says on the face of the lease that he gave 70l. for them—I had nothing to do with the furniture—the prisoner entered into partnership with a man named Rust—prior to that I recollect purchasing the "Mansions of England" of the prisoner—I recollect his employing two architects to make drawings of the mansions of England and Windsor Castle—I recollect Danby and Bogue's Windsor

Castle—the prisoner did not employ them, but he was with them jointly in the speculation.

Q. Was he unable to pay them? A. They had no claim on him—I bought his share—it was not the debt he owed them that I bought up—I will show you the deed (producing it)—I was not a sharer with the prisoner in the costs and profits of this work—I was with Danby and Bogue—the prisoner had a share in it before I purchased it, but not afterwards—I had to pay the amount to get the property—the partnership between the prisoner and Bust took place in 1845—1 sold the business in Great Russell-street to the prisoner and Rust in 1845, for l,500l., I believe—500l. was for the good will and stock—I had wished him to take it himself—he left the shop after six months, and went into the Strand, and I kept the shop on in my name at first, and after that in the name of Atchley and Co.—the name was changed because they made me a director in the Parcel Post Company, and had proceeded against me on that account—I did not apply under the Insolvent Act then, or at any time—I did pay the amount, and on that I put up the name of Atchley and Co.—they were not my debts, but they persecuted me, and I paid them—the prisoner and Rust carried on business in the Strand about four years, I think—during that time they published thousands of volumes, and thousands of pounds' worth of works—the prisoner is well known to all the publishers in London—he has always been a bookseller—after the prisoner and Rust ceased to be booksellers, the prisoner came to me, in Great Russell-street, and saw me—(while I was in Great Russell-street, and they in the Strand, they purchased of me, but I did not purchase of them; I could not, because I had sold them the good will—I gave a bond not to carry on bookselling within a certain range while they were in business)—he came to me; and said that he wished to come back again, and sell on commission—no agreement was made at that time—I did not instruct an attorney to make an agreement between myself Miss Emma Atchley, and the prisoner—the prisoner said that he had instructed an attorney to make an agreement—I saw it, and refused it—I made certain corrections—I carried on the business; Miss Atchley had nothing to do with it—it was "Atchley and Co." over the door—she had at that time given money to the carrying on Of the business—my father-in-law had no share in the business, nor had my sister; the whole firm was myself—there was not an arrangement that she was to advance money, and that I and Williams were to pay her so much—it was not understood that it was to be so; she could not advance money without the consent of the trustee—money was advanced to me by the trustee—the prisoner was not to pay interest as well as myself—when I commenced a second time with the prisoner it was in Great Russell-street—he was in the habit of taking out books, and so was one other person—the prisoner sold books and took orders—he had 10l. per cent, on all he sold—I paid him the 10l. per cent very often when he brought me the money—I carried on business in this way from 1850 to 1855—if the prisoner sold in cash he has had his 10l. per cent, at the time, or it was entered so much less—I have paid him various amounts in cash; my books will show—I cannot say what I paid him in cash the first year, because I paid him at the time—I have given him a bill for his services once to accommodate him—the amount of it was 36l—that was the only bill I paid him for his services—he was a married man—he lived not a great way from me—he, and I, and our wives, were very intimate—he used to come to the shop in the morning, and sometimes again in the evening—the first thing done was to see what books he would take

to show—some of the noblemen who have been named, were on my books and I had known the prisoner to serve some of them during the first two or three years of his being with me—on those occasions I had received the money from the prisoner, but it was entered to the party whom he received it from—the cost price of the "Belgium" is 6l.; I sold it for eight guineas—the real cost price was not 2l. 12s. 6d.—the "Holy Land" was published at 43l—the difference between the cost and the selling price is 20l. or 30l. per cent—sometimes as much as 60l. per cent, is made on old books—I have never reckoned how many books were sold in this way by the prisoner in the course of the year—one of these accounts was upwards of twelve months, and the other six months—there was a settlement of accounts in 1853—I would not give any more commissions to the prisoner until the accounts were paid to me, but I continued at intervals to advance to his wife certain sums of money—no agreement was come to—after 1853 the business was carried on in the same way—during that period bills were not sent in to customers in the name of Williams, that I am aware of—I never sued a person named flower, in the County Court, in the name of Williams—I recollect the morning when certain duplicates were handed over to me by the prisoner—it was at his house—these (produced) are the books which I have refreshed my memory by—no part of this agreement is in my writing, but the pencil marks are—I have seen it before—(This was entitled, "Minutes of an intended agreement to be made between Emma Atchley and John Willams, (as soon as the latter shall have obtained his certificate;) Richard Allen and R. A. Sprigg.")

Q. Just look at this lease (produced), is any portion of that in your writing? A. Yes, on the third page—(This was entitled, "Groundwork of an agreement between Richard Allen Sprigg, John Williams, and Miss E. Atchley")—I suppose that was put into my hand about 1850—this other paper is in my writing—(read: "Dear Sir,—It quite escaped me last night; we are summoned for 2l. 2s., to be paid by half-past 10 tomorrow morning, for rates. Can you get it? On Wednesday afternoon I could return it to you. I rely on your bringing it in time Yours, S.")—these two papers (produced) are in my writing—and so is one of these two bills—these three bills are in my writing—(These were for 40l., 17l., and 18l.; one of them was drawn by Mr. Sprigg, and all were signed John Williams)—in one of these bills I am the drawer and acceptor too—that is not the way that books were settled for which were taken out by the prisoner, many of them are accounts—these books were taken out to show to parties, books which had been entered to him. had been returned to him, and I agreed to settle with him for them, and he paid me these accounts—I will swear that books were never pawned for my benefit, and the money paid over to me—I am not aware that he has taken out books and paid me money on back accounts—he brought me money, and I never knew but what the parties had paid me the account themselves, except where he acknowledged that they had returned the books to him, and then I settled with him, and put it to the credit of the parties—I never authorised him to pledge or sell books for my benefit—I was not aware of his doing so.

Q. I believe you have been in difficulties lately? A. This certainly has placed me in great difficulties—I have not been bankrupt, or taken the benefit of the act—I have not had to call my creditors together; they have agreed to wait some time till I can see what can be done—they have not been offered 18d. in the pound; they have agreed to renew their bills—I have never pledged books myself—I pledged my wife's jewellery once, and

once only—it is in pledge now—I cannot say whether it has been pledged since 1853—it has been renewed every six months—the prisoner's last residence was in Berners-street—he had a house there—I pat the furniture in, 60l. worth, and odd—I have had the furniture since—the prisoner had no other way of living besides what he received from me, that I am aware of, except letting his house to lodgers—he had money on account of me—I have received payment from him for part of the furniture—there was so much a week, amounting to 10l.—I do not still retain the furniture, the upholsterer had it back again—I had given him my acceptance for it—I paid him so much, and settled the rest by his taking the furniture back—he happens to be a tenant of my wife's.

Q. When this settlement was in February, did not the prisoner pay you 1,600l. for the books, which are now produced on the pawnbroker's tickets? A. He never paid me anything but the accounts which were owing at the time—I cannot say whether the books which were in pledge were part of this account—I have received from the prisoner perhaps 1,000l., and I will not swear that it is not 1,600l—Mr. Mason was a customer of mine and Mr. Scott, Lord Blandford, and Mr. Bailey—the prisoner has paid in money on account of books which he took out to those different people, but those which are not paid amount to 3,000l., plus the 1,600l. I had received from him.

MR. BALLANTINRE Q. He told you himself how much the deficiencies were? A. Yes—they amounted to nearly 3,000l., of which I have not got one farthing—it was with my wife's cognizance that her jewellery was pawned; the amount is 20l.—the bills which have been put in are accounts of things supplied to persons which they had not bought, and he asked me to arrange with him, and I did so, by taking these three bills—I think two of them are a renewal of the 40l—I found out irregularities, settled with him, and accepted the bills instead of the money—it appeared that some books had been returned to him without my knowledge, and rather than apply to the parties again I took the bill from him, agreeing to credit the parties—I cannot understand the bill myself about the taxes—it was not produced to me at the police court—I was cross-examined at great length there, but none of these documents were produced—I cannot make this out at all; I think it must have been written for some other purpose—it is in my own writing; I am sure of that—this agreement, which is interlined, and in which there is a pencil addition, was never executed—it was in 1859 that that was attempted—I did not remember that there was any agreement before that—I do now, because I showed it to a gentleman who repudiated it—except what I have told you, there has been no agreement between me and the prisoner—my liabilities are about 1,800l.; and, as far as my books represented, I had 3,000l. to meet it—my creditors would not be satisfied unless I proved that I had not given the books to pawn—I never authorised the pawning of a single book.

COURT. Q. You say that you did not execute the agreement; have your dealings with the prisoner been carried on the footing of that agreement? A. No; I have never dealt with the prisoner on the footing of it at all—10l. per cent, was the agreement—I never had any share of his 10l. per cent commission.

MR. BALLANTINE.Q. Did the prisoner ever make any application to you about buying his commission? A. He has made several offers if I would buy his right, and 10l. per cent commission on the whole, on the representation that they were all correct.

GEORGE AUGUSTUS FREDERICK HENRY, EARL OF BRADFORD . I reside at No. 43, Belgrave-square—I know the prisoner—about January last I did not see him in reference to any books—I did not give him an order for a copy of the "Holy Land" about that period, nor did I obtain one in Dec. last to show to any lady—he did not supply me with a copy; in fact, I was not in London—there was no lady to whom I desired to show a copy.

Cross-examined. Q. Is your lordship sure he did not bring you such a book? A. I cannot say—books are left unknown to me—he was formerly in the habit of leaving books at my house and calling for them again—I have purchased books of him—I considered I was dealing with nobody—if I purchased a book I considered I was dealing with Williams only, except once, when he bought something at an auction for me.

MR. BALLANTINE.Q. When was the last occasion that you bought anything of Williams?A. I think I might have in the early part of 1854—I received a bill in the name of Atchley and Co. to my great astonishment—I knew nothing of it—I never saw the book.

MR. COOPER. Q. Did you ever know the name of Sprigg till this transaction? A. No.

FREDERICK, BARON CALTHORPE . I live at No. 33, Grosvenor-square—I do not know the prisoner—I never gave him any order for books—I never ordered of him a coloured copy of the "Holy Land"—no such copies have been supplied to me.

Cross-examined. Q. Have books been left at your lordship's mansion before? A. I have understood so, but not since I have come to the title—I have "Dugdale's Monasticon" in my library, but it was purchased before I came to the title—I do not know of whom.

JOHN BROCKLEHURST , Esq., M. P. I live in the neighbourhood of Maccles-field, and carry on business in Milk-street, Cheapside—I do not know the prisoner—I have never ordered books of him—I did not order Digby Wyatt's work—no such book has been supplied to me.

Cross-examined. Q. Books have been left with you to peruse, I suppose? A. I have never seen any, but I am only in town part of the year.

THOMAS PHILIP, EARL DE GREY . I live in St. James's-square—I do not know the prisoner—I never ordered of him two volumes of a work on Belgium, and never told him I would take such a work.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you had books of other descriptions left? A. Not to my knowledge.

WILLIAM COTTON , Esq. I live at No. 25, Bryanstone-square—I do not know the prisoner—I gave him no orders for books—I was not recommended by Mr. Leaf—I do not know him—I did not receive books between Nov., '54, and Jan., '55, amounting to 247l. 5s.—I do not know of any books whatever being left at my house—I never said to the prisoner that I wanted any particular book to make a present of to Mr. Hubbard—I never heard of such a person.

WILLIAM LEAF , Esq. I live at Streatham—my place of business is in Old 'Change—I have known the prisoner for some time past—I never gave him a letter of recommendation to Mr. Cotton or to Mr. Gurney—Mr. Cotton I never saw till to-day, and Mr. Gurney I do not know, except by reputation.

Cross-examined. Q. You have known the prisoner a good many years? A. Yes, as Mr. Williams, the bookseller—I have bought many books of him—I never heard of Mr. Sprigg, or of Atchley and Co.

ALFRED MEESOM . I am resident engineer to the New Palace at Westminster—I know the prisoner—I gave him an order, two years ago, for a

work on Belgium; but I gave him no such order last Nov.—I gave him no order on account of Sir Charles Barry—I did not recommend him to M. Zoran, or to anybody in the Turkish Embassy.

Cross-examined. Q. You have known him some years? A. Yes, and have bought many publications of him—he is well known to gentlemen of my profession as a seller of architectural books—he has constantly left books with me on inspection.

CHARLES LAWS . In Nov. last I lived at No. 17, Clement's-inn—I have seen the prisoner several times—he has called—I did not order of him a work on Belgium in Nov. last, and have not seen such a work.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you brothers? A. No—I have seen the prisoner at the office—I think he left two books with my clerk when I was down at Brighton—I have known him two or three years, but have not purchased books of him—I never heard of Atchley and Co., or Sprigg, till now.

CHARLES BROCK . I live at No. 23, Amwell-street, Pentonville, and am assistant to Southgate and Barrett, book auctioneers, of Fleet-street—I pro-duce one volume of a copy of the "Holy Land;" it is in six volumes—I received it of the prisoner—I did not buy it of him—we discounted a bill for him, and he left it as collateral security—it was between 23rd and 30th Nov.—he has left other books, but not many, because they are valuable—we advanced him 180l. on his acceptances and the deposit of the books—that was the cash he actually had—he owed us money previously; from 40l. to 60l.—probably more.

Cross-examined. Q. You have known him some time? A. I have been there twenty years, and have known him all that time—I knew him as a tradesman, carrying on business in Great Russell-street, and in the Strand—he told me the books were his—we had lent him money, and have been paid by him—we have discounted Atchley's bills—we knew that Mr. Sprigg was in the firm, and we thought Miss Atchley was—I did not then consider Williams as one of the firm—I do not know bow he brought the books to us—we have sold for other people in the same way; it is our daily practice—we are book auctioneers—there is nothing singular in it—it is usual for booksellers, like other people, to raise money on their stock.

HENRY SUTHERLAND . I am a bookseller, living at No. 10, Little Tower-street About 9th Jan. I purchased of a person named Pilling, a book of the "Holy Land"—I have not brought it—I was not aware that it was to he produced—it was a coloured copy, unbound—it has been produced, and I think Mr. Sprigg saw it at Bow-street—he was in Court—the copy I produced at Bow-street is the copy I bought of Pilling—(The witness was ordered to fetch the book).

JOHN BURGOYNE PILLING . I live at No. 8, James-street, Kensington. I know the prisoner—I sold a copy of the "Holy Land" to Mr. Suther-land—I did not receive it from the prisoner, but from a person named Canham, about 9th Jan.—Canham is dead—I had been previously acquainted with him, and sold it at his request—I went with Canham to a pawnbroker's in Wardour-street, Harrisson and Watts, and redeemed it.

Cross-examined. Q. Did not you break open a desk at Bloomsbury-square belonging to Williams? A. No; I did not open a desk, certainly not, nor was it done in my presence—I did not go and get some papers, nor did Mr. Sprigg in my presence.

JOHN JACKSON . I live at No. 2, Peter's-alley, Cornhill. On 15th Aug. I sold a copy of the "Holy Land "to Mr. Sprigg—I have seen it since—it is the copy produced by Mr. Sutherland at Bow-street.

WILLIAM JAMES BINGER . I am assistant to Richard Attenborough, a pawnbroker, of No. 68, Oxford-street. I produce one volume of a work called "Belgium"—we have two sets, in two volumes each—I have also a volume of the other set (produced)—one is numbered 4593 and the other 4595—they were pledged at our shop on 23rd Nov., for 1l. 10s. each set, by James Canham, in the name of John Williams—I knew them both before; Canham was Williams's clerk.

Cross-examined. Q. How long have you known Williams? A. More than twelve months—I knew him as a bookseller, and when the name "John Williams "was given, I knew to whom it applied.

WILLIAM PENTECOST . I am servant to Messrs. Harrisson and Co., of Wardour-street, pawnbrokers. I produce two volumes of "Belgium," pawned on different days, some by the prisoner and some by James Canham—we have eight volumes, but these are the four that bear the numbers.

Cross-examined. Q. You have known Williams a long time? A. Yes, ten years, as an architectural bookseller—there was no secrecy whatever; he asked more than the books were worth, and left them with us to apply to a respectable bookseller—the books were very often redeemed—there was no concealment of his name—I have looked at these duplicates—only one of these books has been previously pledged and redeemed; it is "Watteau"—most of these pledgings precede this indictment; I have seen them all.

COURT.Q. Do most of these relate to pledgings before September? A. Yes; I am speaking of the tickets produced by Brannan—I believe Mr. Sprigg mentioned to Mr. Harrisson that he was uncertain whether Williams had not paid for some of them.

MR. BALLANTINE.Q. Have you heard him say that he is certain now? A. I have not.

ROBERT WATKINS . I am in the service of a pawnbroker, and produce "Finden's Gallery of Art," a copy of the "Land Steward," and a work on Mexico, some pawned on 13th Jan., and some on 17th Jan., by Canham, in the name of Canham.

BENJAMIN HAZLEDINE . I am servant to Mr. Young, of No. 51, Prince-street, Leicester-square, pawnbroker. I produce a work called "Nash's Windsor Castle," pledged in Dec. last, by a man named Canham—I asked him some questions, and he referred me to the prisoner—I went to see him, and asked him if it was his property; he said, "Yes"—other books were pledged in Oct., Nov., and Dec, amounting to 117l.—T have one here (produced).

RICHARD ALLEN SPRIGG re-examined. This is an original copy of the "Holy Land" (produced by Mr. Sutherland)—the gentleman I bought it of, Mr. Jackson, has seen it—it is the copy I sent to the Earl of Bradford—I have seen a copy of the "Holy Land," bound in purple morocco, at Messrs. Southgate's—those are the books I sent to Lord Calthorpe's—this is No. 4,601 of "Belgium," and is what I sent to Earl de Grey—I have seen Nos. 4,602 and 4,603 also; those are what I sent to Mr. Brocklehurst—I have seen a copy of "Finden's Gallery," No. 4,577 of the "Land Steward," and a copy of "Nash's Windsor"—those are what I sent to Mr. Cotton—I have seen No. 4,993 of Belgium; I sent that to Mr. Meesom—I have also seen No. 4,600 of "Belgium"—I am able to say that none of these books have been paid for.

MR. COOPER.Q. Have you any marks that you know them by? How do you know that they are the individual copies? A. These are the very

marks of the books which were taken out, as my stock book will show—the names in this book are the names of those to whom the copies were supplied; "4,602 and 3, Mr. Brocklehurst," etc.—each distinct copy has a different number—the writing in the stock book is mine; the figures are Mr. Henry Smith's—the figures were made first, and the name of the party who had them was put to the figures.

HENRY SMITH . About 30th Oct. I accompanied the prisoner to Lord Calthorpe's house—we left there six volumes of the "Holy Land and Nubia," coloured—we did not bring it away again.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you accompanied Williams to other places with books? A. Yes—he has on some occasions left books, and called for them afterwards—I am aware of his selling books in that way—I was in Mr. Sprigg's employment in 1841, when he first had the business—I have seen the prisoner pay Mr. Sprigg money, and represent it as coming from the parties that the books went to—Mr. Sprigg has not, to my knowledge, spoken of the way in which business was done in Williams's absence—in speaking of a book, when I have said, "Who has had it?" Mr. Sprigg has not said, "John Stiles, or anybody," and told me to put it down, saying; "Never mind, Williams will pay for it"—I have heard him say that Williams would pay for it, and receive his commission on it—this paper (looking at one) is, I think, relative to some cash which Mr. Bailey received for Williams—this other paper is in my writing—I believe I have received 15l. from Williams for books which had been entered to parties in some irregularity, and he paid me, and pot it to the parties' account, which was debited in the books—books were never pawned by Williams during the time I was at Mr. Sprigg's—I never pawned any for Mr. Sprigg, or Mr. Williams—I have done such a thing for myself, a book of my own—I have never owned books higher than 7s. or 8s.; I have done that six or seven times in eleven or twelve years—I know a person named Shoredrag, and recollect his giving me an acceptance—he did not pay it when it became due—Williams was not called upon to pay it—I think he sued in the Bloomsbury County Court, in the name of Emma Atchley—Williams had not afterwards to pay the money on the acceptance which I received from Shoredrag, because I put an execution in, and obtained the money—Williams had nothing to pay in money—I believe he paid it in commission, which forms part of the present entries before the Court, because Shoredrag represented that he bad had the books, and he said that he did not receive them—I recollect a man named Flower, a customer of my master's; he was in debt three guineas to my master in July, 1853—I sued him.

Q. Did you sue him in the name of Williams? A. No—Flower repudiated the account, and said that he purchased them of Williams, in Dec, 1853—Williams brought us the money as if it came from Flower—I know that he repudiated Atchley's invoice, and sued him in Williams's name—I recollect applying to Professor Hall, at King's College, for an amount for books, and afterwards ascertained from Mr. Guolf, there, that he had returned the books.

Q. Did you ask Williams for the money? A. I first of all stated that they repudiated the accounts, and afterwards I took Williams's acceptance—I believe these two promissory notes are renewals—I think the original of this was 40l.—I believe they were paid on their being given up——sometimes it was my duty when I took money to give receipts; but when Williams paid me money, I often credited the parties themselves—(receipts read: "May 18, 1854. Received of Mr. J. Williams, 175l. 7s. 6d., for

books, as per invoice. H. Smith." "Aug. 30,1851. Received of J. Williams, 58l., on account of books. H. Smith.")

MR. BALLANTINE.Q. Are those your writing? A. Yes—this receipt is for moneys paid for Mr. Edward Hodges Bailey—I received the amount.

WILLIAM HENRY HESTER . I am an officer of the Insolvent Court I produce the proceedings on the petition of the prisoner for his discharge—my attention has been called to his description—I have not examined to see whether this is a correct copy of it—(the two copies were compared by the clerk of the Court, and found to be correct)—the prisoner has not yet passed through the Court.

MR. PARRY to RICHARD ALLEN SPRIGG.Q. Is this the prisoner's signature to this schedule? A. Yes, "John Williams."

MR. GIFFARD.Q. Is this "John Williams" at the bottom of the page his writing? A. I think not.

MR. COOPER to HENRY SMITH.Q. Do you recollect going to Dobree's the pawnbroker's? A. Yes—I know Thomas Bliss, the assistant there—I am in the habit of seeing him constantly—I did not, to my knowledge, tell him, about four months ago, that Mr. Sprigg wanted to raise about 50l. on several works, of which I left copies at the time—I will swear I did not—I do not think I went again in a day or two, and said that I only required to pledge one copy for 7l., because Mr. Sprigg had received a remittance from the country—I went, without Mr. Sprigg's consent or knowledge, on 5th Feb. last, Mr. William's having an acceptance of 64l. 10s., and he not bringing a large acceptance which was to cover it; I went on my own responsibility, to save Mr. Sprigg's credit, but Mr. Sprigg said that he had never pledged a book yet, and he never would; he would rather let the money go—I only went to make inquiry, not to pledge.

MR. COOPER to RICHARD ALLEN SPRIGE.Q. When did you call your creditors together? A. Not at all—I did not offer a compromise—they agreed to renew their bills when they became due.

COURT.Q. What was the time that the first bill became due which they agreed to renew? A. March or April; it was after the prisoner had been in custody; two or three days after, I think. (The prisoner received a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 48.— Confined Eighteen Months.

Before the First Jury.

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629. WILLIAM KING, JOHN SHIELDS , and JOHN MCNAMARA , stealing 1 purse and 1 handkerchief, value 3s., and 7s. 9d. in money; the property of Julia Corderoy, from her person; Shields having been before convicted: to which

SHIELDS PLEADED GUILTY .*† Aged 14.— Confined Twelve Months.

GEORGE SMITH . I am an errand boy. On the morning of 19th May, about twenty minutes to 12 o'clock, I saw the prisoners going towards the Post Office—I saw them watch several people—the prosecutrix was going towards Cornhill—they met her, and then followed her—King got close up' to her side, and pressed her very much—presently I saw him throw down a key and a handkerchief, and then pass something to Shields—the other two were pressing close behind him—I picked up the key and handkerchief and gave them to the lady—they all three ran away—I saw King taken in the Post Office yard.

JAMES COLLINS . I am a brushmaker. I was in Milk-street, and saw the prisoners—when at the end of Foster-lane, I saw King take a purse out of

a lady's pocket and pass it over to Shields—I did not see the handkerchief drop, but I saw it on the ground—Shields and M'Namara ran down Foster-lane—I was going towards Drury-lane on business, and saw Shields—I told two constables—I stopped the other two prisoners and Shields chucked down the purse.

JOHN HAINES (City policeman, 168). Collins made a communication to me, and I went into Golden-lane and saw Shields and M'Namara—Collins caught hold of M'Namara, but he got away—I went up to Shields—he threw down this purse—I picked it up, and some pence which he threw down.

JOHN SMITH BEAL (City policeman, 108). I took King at about a quar-ter to 12 o'clock, in consequence of what was told me by Smith.

JULIA CORDEROY . I am single, and live at Slough. On 19th May I was in Cheapside—three boys met me—King stepped on my dress, and gave me a sudden push—I did not miss my purse till Smith spoke to me—it had in it 7s. 6d. at one end, and 3d. at the other.

King's Defence. I did not take the purse.

M'Namara's Defence, I had 1s. found on me, but it was my own.

(M'Namara received a good character.)


KING.— GUILTY .†* Aged 16.— Confined Twelve Months.

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630. JAMES CLARKE and GEORGE BARNASH , burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of Mary Ann Robarts, at St. Luke, Chelsea, and stealing therein 1 coat, 2 timepieces, and 1 purse, value 20l. 12s. and 10l. 1s. 1d., in money; her property.

MARY ANN ROBARTS . I live at Sussex-villas, Gunter's-grove; it is my dwelling house. On Saturday night, 26th May, I slept at home—I examined the doors and windows about half past 10 o'clock, but did not go to bed till half past 12—the scullery window was fastened with a bolt and two iron bars—I was alarmed by a policeman, and missed a large clock off the drawing room mantel piece, and another clock which had been safe before; an old driving coat which I had left in the passage; my purse, which I had left on the drawing room table; a shilling, which was by the clock; and some pence off the kitchen mantel piece, among which were two marked pennies; one was marked T, this (produced) is it—I afterwards found my purse empty in the front garden.

JOHN KIFT (policeman). On the morning of 27th May I was on duty, passing the end of Gunter's-road, and saw the prisoners stooping down—Clarke asked me what time it was—I said, 'Half past 2'—he said, 'It is more than that'—I walked by the side of him, met another policeman, and told him to seize one of them—I seized Barnash—he wrenched from me—I called 'Stop thief!' and he was stopped in a field—I searched both the prisoners at the station, and found 1s. and some coppers on Barnash, and this coat on Clarke (produced)—I went to No. 3, Sussex-villas, called up Miss Robarts, and found that some one had broken in by the scullery window—I found this small timepiece behind a heap of dirt where I saw them stooping down.

Clarke. I was standing behind the palings making water.

WILLIAM HOOKE (policeman). I was on duty—Kift met me, and I took Clarke—he had this coat on—I left him at the station, and accompanied Kift to the back of No. 19, Gunter's-grove, and got to the back of No. 3, Sussex-villas, where I found footmarks—the scullery window was forced open, and one of the upright bars much bent—I then admitted Kift—I found this button (a red stone one) under the scullery window—I called up the prosecutrix, and went into the house.

WILLIAM BRIEN (policeman). I was on duty at the station, and entered the charge—I took these two buttons (produced) from Barnash's waistcoat—there were six button holes, but only two buttons on it—(These buttons exactly corresponded with those found by Hooke).

MARY ANN ROBARTS re-examined. These two clocks are mine, and so is this coat.

Clarke's Defence. I saw the coat lying in the road, picked it up, and put it on; Barnash came up, and asked where I was going; I walked with him, went behind some palings, and the constable took me; I am a widower with two children.

Barnash's Defines, Clarke is innocent; I entered the house by myself, brought the timepieces down, placed them were they were found, and the coat also; I saw him pick it up and put it on.

WILLIAM HOOKE re-examined. There were footmarks of two persons at the back of the other premises but not at the back of Sussex-villas, but the soil was very dry, and I could not speak positively—I am sure there were footmarks of two persons up to No. 3, Sussex-villas.

CLARKE— GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined Nine Months.

BARNASH— GUILTY .*† Aged 20.— Confined Twelve Months.

OLD COURT.—Thursday, June 14th, 1855.


Before Mr. Justice Wightman and the Fourth Jury.

Reference Number: t18550611-631

631. WILLIAM MUNDALL , stealing 1 horse, 1 chaise, and 1 set of harness, value 17l.; the goods of Frederick Henry Daniel Schoenrock.

MR. M'ENTEER conducted the Prosecution.

FREDERICK HENRY DANIEL SCHOENROCK (through an interpreter). I live at Albert-place, Turnham-green, and am a tailor. On Wednesday morning, 25th April, I came up to town on business, with a horse and chaise; I was very short of money, and thought if I could sell it I would—"For sale" was written with chalk on the chaise—when I came to St. Martin's-lane, a policeman told me I was not allowed to stand there with it, so I went off—I was looking to see a man named Turner, who was at Aldridge's—in about ten minutes two parties came and asked me if I would sell the pony and chaise—I said, "Yes"—one of them looked at the pony to see if he was sound, and tried him to see if he was young or did—the short man then said that be should like to see the pony going, and got into the chaise and asked me to drive him; I drove them to West-street, to the Marquis of Granby—he asked me to come in and he would make the bargain—one man came into the house, while the other minded the pony—the man who came in offered me 15l. for the pony and chaise, and made a bargain for 16l. 10s.—we remained there about twenty minutes—we then left, and the pony and chaise remained outside the Marquis of Granby, while I went to another public house with the man who was to buy it; his name was Ringwood; there was a man to mind it—we made a bargain at the other public house—there were two men there—I asked the landlord to write a receipt, and after it was written I saw the prisoner coming towards me with a horse—one of them, Brydges, said that the horse belonged to them, that he was

steward in ft Quaker family, and the prisoner was the coachman, and in order that the prisoner should not know how much Ringwood paid for the pony and chaise he sent him away with Brydges—Ringwood had the money in his hand to pay me, and I saw the prisoner walk very quickly towards my chaise—I called to him to leave the chaise alone, and Ringwood ran away towards the other corner—the prisoner jumped into the chaise, and drove away as rapidly as possible, while I held the horse that the prisoner had been holding; Ringwood had begged me to do so—I never saw my pony or chaise again—Ringwood never came back to pay me the money—1 ran after him, and called to him to stop—I next saw the prisoner on 27th April, near the City-road, and gave him into custody—the horse I was left to hold was a black one, worth about 1l.—I have no doubt whatever that the prisoner is the man who ran away with my chaise—I am a cripple, and cannot run.

Cross-examined by MR. RIBTON. Q. Had you ever seen the prisoner before? A. No; I did not speak to him, or he to me—the first time I saw him was when he came up, holding the horse; that was at the first public house—there were other men about—Ringwood and Spritcher, and the man who was holding the chaise—I did not know him, he came and asked me to give him a glass of ale, that was in St. Martia's-lane—Ringwood was the man who drove with me; the man who minded the pony followed us to the first public house, we had a pint of ale there—the prisoner was not minding it, he was standing at the horse's head—the second public house is about thirty yards from the first—the man who asked me to let him mind the chaise went off with the prisoner—the prisoner sat on the driving side; the man who had asked me to let him mind the chaise did not drive—I have never seen him since—I could not see who held the reins—we were not ten minutes in the second public house—when I saw the prisoner on the 27th, he was in charge of a constable, there was another man named Jones with him—the policeman asked me if that was the man, and I said that he was—I had not previously said that Jones was the man who held the horse, nor have I charged him with it, or said that he was the man who drove the chaise away—Jones is a witness here—I do not know who he is; he is not the landlord of the public house, he is a hard working man—when I was standing with the other horse, I was from twenty-eight to thirty yards from the chaise—Ringwood had money in his hand; I had not offered to give the prisoner some money—I have not said that I would give the prisoner and his Mends some money and not prosecute, if they would tell me where the chaise was—I had bought the chaise that day and wanted to sell it again, because I had not sufficient money to buy what I wanted—I paid 4l. 10s. for it—the pony was worth 12l—I do not know a man named Edwards; no other men were given in charge that I know—I have not seen Ringwood since.

THOMAS JONES . I am an ostler, living in Whitecroos-street On 25th April, I was in the Repository, in St. Martin's-lane—I saw the prosecutor in West-street, close to the Repository, and two persons with him—Ring-wood had his purse out, pretending to pay him some money—I saw the prosecutor there holding a black horse, with a cloth on him—I saw the pri-soner get up into the chaise with another man whom I do not know, and drive round the corner with him—the prosecutor ran after him, but could not catch him—Ringwood is an acquaintance of the prisoner's—I know them both, and have seen them together—the prisoner is the same man.

Cross-examined. Q. Are you in employment? A. Nothing regular—I

get my living by working at different places—I was at Dixon's fire years; that is three years ago—I am at Mr. Winn's four or five days a week—I was with him on Monday; he lives in Gloucester-street, Curtain-road—I was not looking after horses on this day; I was seeing if I could take a horse home for anybody—I generally take horses home from the Repository for different people—I was with Mr. Bryce, but did not take any horses home; he bought none—I was looking out for a job—the Marquis of Granby is about fifty yards from the other public house—I saw the prosecutor in St. Martin's-lane—I did not see the man that got up into the chaise with him—I saw him go into the Marquis of Granby—I do not know who drove the chaise there, but I saw a man holding it outside—I did not wait outside—I had half a pint of beer at the Marquis of Granby, and came out again and went to the Repository—I did not go after them to the Marquis of Granby—I went to have half a pint of beer, and then went to the Repository—I was walking about—I nave known Ringwood two or three years, but have no connection with him—I do not know that I ever spoke two words to him in my life—I was never on intimate terms with him, only "Good day "or "Good morning"—I mean to say that is all the conversation I have ever had with him—I had not seen him for two or three months before—I saw him at the corner of Smithfield, as I was taking two horses home for Mr. Kitcherman—he nodded his head and said "Good morning," and I nodded to him; that was more than three months before this day—I had not spoken to him on this day, before he went into the Marquis of Granby—1 was standing about twenty yards off when he pretended to pay the money—I did not stop to look on—I did not know what game they were carrying on—everybody could see—I stopped and just had a look, and then walked on—I never saw him pay any money—he had his purse out—I did not speak to him on that day—I did not bid him "Good day"—I did not always speak to him—I have never been in trouble, and never had a week's imprisonment in my life—I do not know that I have ever been charged with any offence—Jones is my real name; I have never gone by any other—I was never charged with any offence before a Magistrate; a policeman took me one night into Old-street, that is all—it was about two horses, but I paid him the money; that is three or four months ago—I paid him the money before he took me up—I was not charged with stealing a horse—the policeman said that he wanted me, that was all—I have not been in the station house very often; not above twice—that was the first time I was taken there, except for getting a drop of drink—the policeman did not tell me what I was charged with—I was kept in the station about a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes—I was not locked up—nobody told me what I was charged with—I had the horses for sale, and I paid the gentleman for them before I was in custody—I was not charged with stealing them—the other charge was getting a drop of drink—after I came out of the Marquis of Granby I went to the Repository, and returned again in ten or twelve minutes, and went up to the corner of West-street—I was walking about—it was then that I saw Ringwood paying the money—the prosecutor was holding an old black horse at the time—the chaise was in West-street, a man was holding it—I saw it drive away; I could not see who had the reins—I should know the other man again if I were to see him.

MR. M'ENTEER. Q. Do you know Ringwood? A. Yes—I believe he is well known about the Repository—I have seen him and the prisoner together once or twice—I saw no money produced.

MR. RIBTON.Q. Do you know the name of the gentleman whose horses you were charged with doing something with? A. Seele.

CATHERINE KELLY . I live at No. 2, Whitehorse-court. On 25th April, I was in West-street, and saw the prosecutor go into a public house with the prisoner—the prisoner came out, jumped up in the chaise, and said to a man in a white flannel jacket who was minding the pony, "Jump up, mate, and let us drive off as fast as we can; they then drove away—the prisoner is the man.

Cross-examined. Q. You saw the prisoner go with the German into the Marquis of Granby? A. No—I do not know the name of the house—it is at the corner of West-street—the chaise was standing just outside the door—I do not know where the Marquis of Granby is—they talked together—they did not come out together—the prisoner came out first—I am sure it was he who said, "Jump up"—I do not know who took the reins—I sell oranges in the street—I stand all day with a basket close to the public house—I cannot be mistaken about all this.

COURT.Q. Did you see a black horse? A. No, nothing but the pony.

ANN MALONEY . I live in Lumber-court, Seven Dials. I was with the last witness, and saw a pony and chaise in the street—I did not see the prosecutor—I saw the prisoner come out of a public house—he said to the man who was minding the pony chaise, "Get up, and drive on as fast as you can"—he got up, and they drove away round the corner.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you see the prisoner go into the public house? A. No—it was the Marquis of Granby—the chaise was close to it—there was not a man in the chaise, he was holding the horse—the prisoner got in, and the man got in at the same time—I did not see who drove—I am sure it was the prisoner who used the words, "Jump up, mate"—I had never seen him before—I saw him next at Marl borough-street, the constable took me to see him—he told me he had got the man who drove off in the chaise, and he wanted me to fix on him, and see whether he was the man—he pointed him out to me, and said, "Is that the man?" and I said "It is"—the policemen first spoke to me three weeks ago last Saturday—they came to the other girl—she said that I knew as much about it as she did, and then the policemen came to me—I and the other girl have not been talking about this at all—I have seen her often—we have been talking about the matter, and saying that we were coming here to give evidence—I have never been examined here before—she has not said that she should like to see the Judge, and the Bar, and the Court.

COURT.Q. Are there two public houses there? A. There is one at the corner, and one by where we stand—the Marquis of Granby is about twenty-four yards from the other public house where we stand—that public house is at the corner of West-street—it was out of that public house that the man came—it was out of the Marquis of Granby that he came—he did not come out of the other public house.

JOHN LEONARD (City policeman, 119). On Friday, 27th April, from information I received, I took the prisoner in a street adjoining the City-road—the prosecutor was with me—I told the prisoner what he was charged with—he said nothing about it at first, and afterwards he said that he minded the pony and chaise, and received 2s. for doing so.

Cross-examined. Q. Was there a man named Edwards in custody for this? A. No—yes, there was; I had forgot the name—I do not know where he is now—he was in custody about an hour and a half or two hours I should think—it was in consequence of something Jones told me that I

took him into custody—I went to the prisoner's house, and found him there.

MR. M'ENTEER. Q. Had you been making inquiries of parties for information?A. Yes, and in consequence of that 1 took up Edwards, I found he was not the man, discharged him, and took the prisoner.

(The prisoner received an excellent character.)

GUILTY. Aged 40.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury on account of his character. Confined Six Months.

Reference Number: t18550611-632

632. JOHN SWANN and HENRY COLES , burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of William Phillips, in the parish of St. Luke, and stealing therein 1560 scarfs, value 311l., and 144 lbs. weight of silk, value 197l.; the property of said William Phillips and others.

MESSRS. BODKIN and RIBTON conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM PHILLIPS . I live at No. 4, South-place, Finsbury, and am a silk manufacturer; there are two houses adjoining each other; I reside in one, and the business is carried on in the other; there is a communication internally. On Friday night, 13th April, I examined the premises—they were all closed up and fastened—next morning my man sent a message, and I went and found the next house in confusion—the door of the weavers' entrance was unfastened, and three other doors opened—the top room was kept open by a stool, it was never locked—the two rooms had been entered by a centre bit from the inside—a person could get to the inside from the window which opens on to the parapet—that window was open—the next house but one was unoccupied at that time—persons could get to the roof of the unoccupied house, there is a parapet five feet nine inches wide from the window of my house—there were footmarks in the gutter, and some tow which had dropped off the thieves' feet—there were footmarks in the warpers' room—the door of the warehouse had been broken open, the drawers opened, and 130 dozen scarfs and 100 or 200 lbs. weight of silk missing, amounting to between 500l. and 600l.—I also missed from the warehouse a canvas bag, containing waste—I had seen it the night before—it was partly filled—the contents had been turned out on to the floor.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How lately had you been into the room when the window was found open A. Not for a week before—I cannot tell when the window was opened—the property I lost was at the bottom of the house—the door leading to the warehouse was broken from the outside—the parties could get down, because the door at the bottom of the staircase was not fastened, that led into the second room, and then another door led to the warehouse—the room is not a part of my house, nor the staircase; they are two houses—there is an internal communication—there is an outer door to each house—the property was taken from two parts, some from the winders' room and some from the weavers' room.

MR. RIBTON.Q. When they got in at the window did they get into the warpers' room? A. Yes—it was the door of the winders' room that was broken from the inside, that admitted them to the body of the house, and then the door of the warehouse was broken from the outside—the street door was broken from the inside, as if they had broken out.

JOSIAH COOTE . I am a porter, employed by the last witness. On Friday, 13th April, I left at a quarter to 9 o'clock at night, leaving the premises fast—I went up to the weavers' and warpers' rooms, the windows were fastened down, and the door of the winders' room was double locked—I came in next morning about 7 o'clock, by the house entrance—I first went to the ware-house,

the door communicating with the house was locked; I went inside, and found the drawers open, and the lobby door, where the work people are served, open—there was a bundle of scarfs, and pieces of velvet were lying about—the lock of the street door had been picked, and opened from the inside—the first door of the winders' room had not been touched, but in the top winders' shop the lock had been cut out from the inside—in the warpers' room, I found the window open—I went and told Mr. Phillips, and he came in with me.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. You were not examined before the Magistrate?A. No—I go up into the top room every night; sometimes one of the others goes with me, but I go invariably—I recollect going up that night most particularly, because Mr. Phillips was engaged in the counting house—he never does it, but his brother does—there was a common fastening to the window, which goes back with a spring, and fastens in the centre of the window—it may have been opened by inserting a knife—I am certain that it was shut.

JAMES BRANNAN (police inspector, G). On Saturday, 14th April, in consequence of a communication, I went to Mr. Phillips's house—access had been gained to it by the other window—from some information that I received, I went on Sunday morning, about 7 o'clock, to No. 28, Matilda-street, Hackney-road, with three officers—the prisoner Coles opened the door—1 left him in charge, went to the first floor back, accompanied by Mr. Phillips, and found Swann there—I said that I belonged to the police, and came to take him into custody for committing a burglary at the house of Mr. Phillips—he thought for some time, and then said that he knew nothing about it—I asked him his name; he asked me whether he was bound to answer me—I said that he need not Unless he liked, and he made no answer—I told him to dress himself—he sat up, and took his trowsers which lay on the bed; I took them out of his hand, and in the pocket found this key (produced), which opened a drawer in a chest in the room in which I found a quantity of silks (produced); they are scarfs—he said, "Why, that key you brought from down stairs"—I said, "No, I just took it out of your pocket," and Mr. Phillips said so too; he made no reply—Mr. Phillips identified the silks as his property—Swann said that he was very ill, and requested some water—I got him some, and then took him into custody.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE Q. Who were the other police? A. James Brannan, one of my sons; Thomas Evans, and a policeman named Compton, who was not considered a necessary witness—the key opened the drawer easily—this is it, and here is the lock (produced)—there were four tiers of drawers.

Cross-examined by MR. GIFFARD. Q. How was Cole dressed? A. He was in his shirt.

JAMES BRANNAN , Jun. (police sergeant, G 21). I accompanied my father—the door was opened by Coles; he was left in charge of one of the other policemen—my father called me up stairs; I went up into a back room, and saw Swann in bed there—I saw the drawer opened; there was no difficulty in opening it with the key—I saw the silks taken from it—my father told Swann the charge, and after a lapse of some time he said, "I know nothing about it"—I did not see the key taken from him, I had turned my head to another part of the room, to see if I could find anything; but I saw my father with the trowsers in his hand—I saw one black bag found under the bed, and one in a cupboard—I took charge of the silk.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q, Was not it past 7 o'clock when you

went there? A. About 7 o'clock; I cannot say to a moment—I would not say that it was not.

THOMAS EVANS (policeman, G 145). I accompanied the other police to the house—we went in by the back door; it was opened by Mr. Phillips—Cole was in the passage in his shirt; he went into a back parlour, and I told him that I had come to search his place for some silk—he said, "I know nothing about any silk; all that is in this room belongs to me"—I said, "I mean the silk that was brought in last Monday morning, about 6 o'clock, two or three bags'—he said, "I never saw any brought in"—we searched the room, and in a chest of drawers found a likeness of the prisoner Swann, and in another drawer 3l. in silver—I took Coles to the station; he said he was a wine cooper, and Swann said he was a cabinet maker.

Cross-examined by MR. GIFFARD. Q. Was not it, "I know nothing about any silk; I never saw any silk brought in?" A. No.

JAMES TAYLOR . I live with my father and mother, at No. 1, Matilda-street, Hackney-road; that is right opposite No. 28. On Monday morning, 16th April, I got up about 6 o'clock; I heard the noise of a cart, and saw a man driving it; there were three bags in it—it stopped at the door of No. 28, the man jumped out and knocked—Mr. Coles opened the door; I knew him by sight—the man put the tailboard of the cart down, took a whitey-brown bag out, and put it in the passage; he took a black bag out, and they had some little row at the cart before they put it in the passage—there was a third bag, that was left in the cart—I saw Mr. Coles lay hold of a corner of a bag in the passage, and then shut the door—one man drove away with the bag, and the other kept in the house—the man in the cart put a sack over the bag, and some straw, and tarpaulin, and a basket, and then drove off—I have seen Swann at the same house—it was a light spring cart, and a small chesnut pony.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. You did not know the men who came with the cart? A. No, they were strangers.

Cross-examined by MR. GIFFARD. Q. When Coles laid hold of the bag was it to shut the door? A. Yes—they shut the door before the cart went away—it was after they shut the door that the other man covered the sack and tarpaulin over the bag.

MR. RIBTON. Q. Was the bag you saw taken into the house like this (a black bag produced by Brannan)? A. Yes.

HARRIET TAYLOR . I am the wife of James Taylor, of No. 1, Matilda-street I know the prisoners; they live in the opposite house, No. 28, and have done so to the best of my recollection more than nine months—on Tuesday evening, 17th April, at a little past 5 o'clock, I saw a cart drive to the door; it stopped two doors past their house—two men were in it—they went to No. 28, Coles' house; they were in conversation some time, and then I heard Swann, who was at the door, say to the other, "You had better come in"—he then went to the cart, took a parcel out, and took it into the house—the other man was talking to Swann at the door, who said to him, "You had better come in," and then both men went in, and left the cart standing outside—in a short time they both came out, Swann had a narrow bag on his shoulder; he placed it in the cart, and they drove away—it was a spring cart with a chesnut or brown pony—I saw the same two men there on Thursday, and saw them coming out with a bag each, which appeared quite full and very large—Swann walked first, and they followed him.

WILLIAM PHILLIPS re-examined. I lost a whitey-brown bag, but it has not been found—this black bag is mine.

COURT to INSPECTOR BRANNAN. Q. Were there any other person in the house? A. No, except Coles' wife, or woman, and a lone woman, who resided in the first pair front room, in a very delicate state of health, under medical treatment—Coles said, "We are the proprietors of the house" (meaning him and Swann)—I said to the constable, Evans, "Have you found any silks?"—Coles said, "No, but he has found some money, which belongs to me"—there are five rooms and a kitchen to the house.

(Coles received a good character.) COLES— NOT GUILTY .

SWANN— GUILTY of Receiving. —(He was further charged with having been

before convicted.)

JOSEPH COOKE (policeman). I produce a certificate—(read—Clerkewell; John Brown, convicted, Jan., 1852, of stealing a yard measure, and other articles; confined four months)—I was present—Swann is the man, I have not a shadow of a doubt.

GUILTY.† Aged 30.— Four Years' Penal Servitude.

Reference Number: t18550611-633

633. GEORGE FROME was indicted for a robbery, with others, on William Henry Hackwood, and stealing from his person 1 eye glass and 1 purse, value 5l. 2s.; and 20s. in money, his property.

MR. SHARPE conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM HENRY HACKWOOD . I am a ship painter, and live at No. 16, Cottage-grove, Mile-end-road. On Tuesday night, 15th May, about a quarter to 10 o'clock, I was about fifteen yards from the high road, and all at once found something passed round my neck, and found myself in a state of strangulation—I saw no one at the time, but within a few seconds I saw three persons flitting before me—I became insensible, and when I came to myself I was on the ground—on attempting to get up I found that my right hand was disabled—I got up, and endeavoured to cry, "Stop thief!" but I found that a small vessel in my throat had been broken, and I could not articulate—I was taken to a doctor, and have been incapacitated from doing anything with my hand ever since—my trowser were torn down from my pocket, and I missed my purse, containing a half sovereign and 10s. or 12s.—my eye glass was gone also—about a minute and a half after I recovered I saw a policeman, and told him what had happened—the police inspector called on me about an hour and a half afterwards—this was in Cottage-grove, going towards my own house, and was not more than fifteen or sixteen yards from the public street, where a great many people were passing—this eye glass (produced) is my property, and is what I lost.

MARY DONOVAN . I am the wife of Daniel Donovan, a bricklayer, of No. 5, Flower and Dean-street; we keep a lodging house. I cannot swear to this eye glass, but it is very much like one which the prisoner gave me, as he owed me a trifle—he told me that he picked it up, and next morning I pawned it, in my own name and address, at Mr. Thorpe's, at the top of the street I live in, for 4s.—I do not know on what day of the month or of the week it was—I have not got the ticket—he gave it to me, as near as I can guess, between 11 and 12 o'clock at night.

Prisoner. I did give it to her after I found it.

GEORGE THOMAS HINDMARSH . I am assistant to Mr. Thorpe, a pawn-broker, of No. 200, Brick-lane, Spitalfields. I produce this eye glass—it was pledged with me by the last witness, on 16th May, between 7 and 8 o'clock in the morning.

CORNELIUS FOAY (police sergeant, H 7.) The prisoner was taken on another charge on the morning of 16th May, about half past 3 o'clock—I

told him that he was also charged with robbing a gentleman in the Mile-end-road—he said that he never was in the Mile-end-road.

Prisoner. I am innocent of it.

GUILTY . Aged 32.— Seven Years' Penal Servitude.

(There was another indictment against the prisoner, for which see New Court, Saturday.)

NEW COURT.—Thursday, June 14th, 1855.


Before Mr. Recorder and the Sixth Jury.

Reference Number: t18550611-633a

(In the case of ALEXANDER BEAT , charged with stealing, on 25 th May, 1 watch, value 6l., the goods of William Connell, in his dwelling house, the Jury, on the evidence of Gilbert McMurdo, Esq., surgeon, found the prisoner of unsound mind—and not in a fit state to plead,— ordered to be Detained.)

Reference Number: t18550611-634

634. CHARLES WILLIAM WINCHELSEA BEVAN , stealing on 1st June, an order for the payment of 201l. 17s. 6d.—2nd COUNT, stealing on 8th June an order for the payment of 49l. 15s. 5d.—3rd COUNT, stealing on 20th April, an order for the payment of 31l. 16s., the moneys of the Deposit and General Life Assurance Company, his masters.—Other COUNTS describing him as servant to Stephen Cracknell and others.

MR. SERJEANT WILKINS, with MESSRS. BODKIN and ROBINSON, conducted the Prosecution.

STEPHEN CRACKNELL , Esq. I am a barrister, practicing in the Equity Courts—I am one of the directors of the Deposit and General Life Assurance Company—their offices at present are at No. 18, New Bridge-street, Black-friars—the prisoner was the secretary of the Company—he came into the office, I think, about Aug., 1853—1852 or 1853; I am not quite sure which—he resided at the Company's house—at first he had a salary of 400l. a year; it was afterwards increased to 500l., or rather more, I think—it was his duty to make such payments on behalf of the Company as were previously authorised by the board, to open all letters addressed to the secretary, and generally to manage—it was his duty to enter, or cause to be entered in a cash book, all receipts on behalf of the Company—we had two bankers, the Commercial Bank and Messrs. Hopkinson's—our payments were made by drafts drawn and signed by the directors at our weekly meetings, and countersigned by the prisoner—they required his counter signature before they were issued—it was also his duty to lay before us at our weekly meetings, a statement of all receipts and payments during the preceding week—when payments were to be made, either he or one of the clerks, by his direction, filled up the cheques; they were then laid before the Board, and signed by two of the directors, and they received his counter signature either then or afterwards—in consequence of something that reached my ears about 22nd July, 1854, I had a conversation with the prisoner; that was at a meeting of the Board—there had been two cheques drawn for the premiums of some assurances which we had effected with the Home Counties Company, and those cheques had been delivered to the prisoner at some previous Board to be paid to that Company—I asked him what had become of those

two cheques—I have the particulars of them—(referring to a paper)—one was No. 1211, dated 8th June, for 26l. 16s. 3d.; and the other, No. 1212, same date, for 49l. 15s. 5d.—this is a memorandum I made with a view to the inquiry before the Magistrate, as I had forgotten the exact amounts and dates of the cheques—we were sometimes in the habit of re-assuring with the Home Counties office; our practice was not to keep above 500l. on one life—when we took more than that, we reassured with another office—sometimes with one office, and sometimes with another—the Home Counties was one—these (produced) are the cheques I speak of, and about which I spoke to the prisoner; they are for 25l. 16s. 3d. and 49l. 15s. 5d., both dated 8th June, 1854—they were drawn for premiums on re-assurances with the Home Counties—I asked the prisoner if those re-assurances had been paid; he said they had—he ought to have paid those cheques to the Home Counties before the time expired during which the premium was payable—what that time was I cannot tell you exactly, but it would be at any rate within a month from the date of these cheques, probably a shorter period—it is the custom of offices to allow a certain number of days after the date at which the premium becomes due—I do not know, but I think these were new insurances—the risk on the part of the Home Counties would not begin until these were paid—they were new insurances; it was the prisoner's duty, therefore, to pay them at once—if for any reason the payment was delayed after the cheques were signed by the directors, it would have been the prisoner's duty to retain them in his own possession—when he told me that he had paid these two sums, I asked him to produce the receipts for them—he sent down stairs to have them produced—he sent the messenger or sent a message that those receipts were to be brought up—I had previously examined the voucher book where the receipts ought to have been, and found they were not there; the messenger returned without them—the receipts are pasted in a book called the voucher book—the prisoner directed the messenger to bring the voucher book—when he returned without the receipts, the prisoner after a time admitted that he had not got the receipts—he said he had had the receipts but had given them back—I wanted to know why, and said it was very strange—he said there was some question of account between him and Mr. Mills, the secretary of the Home Counties for which these receipts had come, and he had got them back; that was the substance of his statement—he said he would have them the next day, and I think we appointed a Board for the following day, the 23rd; I attended—I think the first Board was on the 21st, but I am not quite sure, and the next on the following day, the 22nd; it was the day after this conversation—the prisoner then produced the receipts—I said it was very extraordinary, and it was necessary to have an explanation about it, and I therefore proposed to the Board that a letter should be sent to the Home Counties to know when these moneys were paid, and, in fact, for an explanation—before the letter was sent, a copy of it was read to the prisoner; that copy is in the minute book—(read: "22nd July, 1854. Deposit and General Life Assurance Company. Gentlemen,—On the 8th June last, the directors of the Company drew two cheques upon their bankers (the Commercial Bank of London), one numbered 1211, for 25l. 16s. 3d., and the other numbered 1212, for 49l. 15s. 5d. Those cheques were intended to be paid to your Company, the first for the assurance of 500l. on the life of one Dennis Armstrong; the other for the assurance of 500l. on the life of Samuel Prosser. Upon inquiring yesterday for the receipts of those two sums, they were not forthcoming, but the secretary of

this Company stated that the amounts had been paid to you; that he had had the receipts for them, but that the secretary of your Company had obtained them back, to day those receipts were produced, and are dated 10th June. On the part of the directors of this Company, I shall be greatly obliged by your informing me, under the authority of your Board, when the two sums in question were paid to you, and upon what day your Company first was under the risk of assurance on those lives; for example, whether if the persons, Armstrong and Prosser, or either, had died before yesterday, your Company would have considered itself liable to pay the amount insured by us upon those lives? I should also be glad to know in what mode those payments were made, and the circumstances under which the receipts were given. I have the honour to be, Gentlemen, your obedient servant, R. A. Riddell, Chairman pro tern."—I drew up the letter, and read it over to the prisoner, and asked him if the facts were true; he said, "Yes"—(I know nothing of any former letter)—this is the answer—I think the prisoner was present when it was received and read—(Read: "Home Counties and General. 22nd July, 1854. To R. Riddell, Esq. Sir,—In the absence of Mr. Mills, I have to acknowledge the receipt of your favour of this days date. Among other moneys paid into our banker's by myself this morning were the following, received from Mr. Bevan by Mr. Mills. Bank notes for 20l. and 5l.; cheque on London and County, signed, Gray and Warren, 15l.; do., Commercial Bank, from the Deposit and General Assurance Company, No. 1249, 5l.; do., do., No. 1248, 12l. 10s.; do., London and County Bank, signed, Charles Bevan, 21l. 10s. 2d.; Cash, 2l. 13s. 9d. I remain, Sir, your obedient servant, Charles Beddall. For John Mills, Secretary.")—that was received on the 22nd—it gives no answer to our letter; it does not allude to the same cheques—I believe it was read to the prisoner—I do not remember what remark he made—we sent over our letter, with instructions to wait for an answer, and the messenger brought back that letter, stating that Mr. Mills had left—that message was delivered to the Board when the prisoner was in attendance—we had a subsequent answer from Mr. Mills to our own letter—this is it (produced)—this was after Mr. Bevan had resigned—I do not know that I had any conversation with him on the subject of that letter—after the receipt of the letter on the 22nd the prisoner admitted that he had not paid the sums—what occurred occupied a very considerable time—I wish to state the substance of it as near as I can—according to my remembrance, in the interval between our sending the letter and receiving the reply, the prisoner admitted that he had used those two cheques—he said there had been money transactions between him and Mills, but he admitted that he had used those cheques and had not paid them to the Home Counties Company to effect these insurances—I said that even his own statement showed gross irregularity, and that unless he rendered it unnecessary, I should feel it my duty to move that he dismissed—he owned that it was an irregularity—I think his words were, "I admit it is a very irregular thing"—he at once resigned, and threw himself upon the mercy of the board, and a minute was made embodying the substance of what occurred—that minute was read to him after it was made—(read: "The Secretary, after some observations from the Board, at once resigned his office, and stated that he threw himself upon the mercy of the Board.')—there was another cheque, for 201l. odd, in question at the same time—I had reason to believe that that had not been mid in due time, and I called his attention to that, and asked him to

account for it—he produced the receipt for it, but the receipt "was considerably subsequent in date to the date of the cheque—I hare no doubt it is among the papers—the prisoner had some furniture in the house—although he resigned, he was permitted to remain in the house for a short time—Mr. Knox, an accountant, was called in to go through the accounts—with respect to the, 201l. cheque, the prisoner said that he had used the money for his own purposes—he said that at the time—I believe those were the very words; at any rate that was the substance of what lie said—this is the receipt (looking at it)—it is for 201l. 16s., dated 16th June, 1854, and signed by Perks, who was our agent at Birmingham—I was not at all aware of the prisoner's paying cheques that were given to him in the way I have mentioned, into his own banker's—I never knew of it until the examination before the Alderman—I have since learnt that there was an occasion upon which some inquiry was made of him about that, but I think I was not present—I could not tell you on what occasion it was, without reference to the books.

Cross-examined by MR. PRABKT (with MR. SLEIGH). Q. Is it the fact that Mr. Bevan by his exertions materially increased the business of this Company? A. Yes—he did not increase it in eighteen months from two policies up to an income of 10,000l. a-year—I cannot tell you the exact amount—I should think the income was about 6,000l. a-year when he left—he was the first secretary when we really were in business; he was not the first, but we really had done no business when he came—he was publicly thanked by the Company for his exertions, in their reports, and his salary increased—he raised the business to 6,000l. a-year—he had the management of the business, subject to the supervision of the Board—through himself and clerks he did almost everything that there was to be done.

Q. Establishing agencies, going about the country and making the Company known, giving dinners to persons to whom dinners ought to be given, and so on? A. Not with our authority as regards that—I remember one dinner being given by the authority of the Board, and only one—he had to travel about the country when we sent him—he had not to travel about the country, but we occasionally sent him to Birmingham, Leeds, Bristol, and other places—I believe he used to held public meetings at those towns, and meet the agents there—all the expenses incurred by that were paid by, the Company by cheques—I was a member of the Finance Committee—I was never aware that the prisoner paid cheques which were given to him into his own bankers, until you put a bundle of cheques into my hand before the Alderman—on one occasion I was paid my fees as a Director by a cheque of, the prisoner's—that was in Oct., 1853, I think—that was simply for this reason; a cheque was drawn for the entire amount of the fees due to the Directors, and for convenience sake he took that cheque and gave me a separate cheque—I suppose he paid the cheque into his own bankers—I really did not know at the time what he did with it—I presumed he would pay it in.

Q. Do not you know that other directors besides yourself have been paid by his cheques? A. I did not until I ascertained it—I was as assiduous in my attendance as I could be—I have never received but one cheque from the prisoner—when you put a cheque into my hands I was under the impression that I had been paid on former occasions in the same way, but I find it is not so—there was no minute authorising the prisoner to pay cheques into his bankers, to my knowledge—there was no minute produced before the Magistrate authorising such a thing—there is such a one, which

I did not know of until it was produced—it relates to cheques of a particular class—it is in the agenda book; it is a minute of what is to be done at the meeting, and the Chairman's notes of what has been actually done—it is the duty of the Secretary to transcribe that into the minute book as a record of what has been done—that is confirmed at the next meeting—Lord Drumlanrig is the Chairman of the Company—I believe he was Chairman in '53—this is the minute (looking at it)—it is dated 14th Sept., '53—from the writing 1 presume Mr. Coode to have been in the chair this day—This is the minute in the agenda book (read: "Upon Mr. Coode's question, Mr. Bevan explained the process of drawing upon our bankers in favour of borrowers, and his explanation was entirely satisfactory to the Company.")—I was not present on that occasion, and know nothing about it—this is the minute in the minute book of 14th Sept., '53—it is in the prisoner's writing—(read: "Mr. Coode stated to the Committee that he had been informed that in cases of loans, it was the custom of the Secretary, upon receiving the cheques from the Board, to pay the same into his own banker's, and allow the money to remain to his own credit for some time prior to handing the same to the parties, and that he had done so in one time to the extent of about l,500l.; and Mr. Coode further stated that his informant had, in stating this to him, adduced it as a reason for the Company's balance at its banker's having been, and still being, so low. Mr. Coode, thereupon, called upon the Secretary for an explanation, which was thus given: first, the Secretary denies in to to that he pays the cheque into his credit, and retains the money there before handing it to the parties, and thereby benefiting his own and injuring the Company's credit; but, on the contrary, what the Secretary does is this; he gets the bill discounted by Hopkinson's before he even cashes the cheque. When he is advised the bill is discounted; he then, for convenience, pays the cheque into his account, and simultaneously sends the Amount due, to the party in a cheque of his, paying the law charges to the solicitor, and the premium, etc., to the Company, thereby benefiting the Company, inasmuch as by this process the cheque is not presented for one day; whereas, if the Secretary were to adopt the only other two courses, viz., a registered letter or a bank order, the cheque would of necessity be cashed instanter, and the Company's balance be immediately reduced; whereas, by the process adopted by the Secretary the Company gains a day, and sometimes two days, as well as the saving of considerable time, in either cashing the cheque and obtaining a registered letter, or cashing it and getting a bank order, both of which processes are avoided by simply enclosing a cheque to the party. The Secretary stated that it was done solely for convenience; that it was more trouble and inconvenience to himself personally; and he produced his banker's book, which proved that the allegation was totally incorrect and false, both as to the amount of 1,500l. as well as to the paying in the money immediately the cheque was drawn, and when drawn and paid in, retaining it any time beyond that required by the transmission of the cheque by one post and the return of it to his bankers by another, or by return of post His book showed that he had only even done this in four instances, and at remote dates, and that his assertions as to time of keeping the cheque were true; for it appeared that in each instance the cheque was cashed by return of post. The Committee considered his explanations entirely satisfactory, and the mode adopted by him to be the most convenient. The Secretary further adds that his mode is the best for the Company, inasmuch as if the Company were to trust the party to remit the premium, etc., it is doubtful how long the Company would have to wait for it; and, as an instance of

this, in the case of Wildman, the Company was a week and more without the premium, owing to an informality in the cheque given for it, and the Company had to wait till a fresh cheque was obtained, the borrower having received a fortnight previously the whole amount, and given his cheque, which was returned, for the premium.")—that minute is signed by George Coode, Chairman—I have not myself traced several instances in which the prisoner has actually paid the Directors their fees, I only traced my own—I have not said that I had traced at least three—what I said was this; when I was examined before the Alderman, I found I had received three sums of money for fees, and at the moment when you put into my hand one cheque I thought it probable that I had received the others, but I find I have not—on one occasion, I think, the prisoner paid me my fees in cash—I think that was before he had a banking account at all—I think, on one occasion, he had a cheque for fees, and he went and got the cash at our banker's and paid us the money.

Q. Did he not very frequently receive cheques for a considerable amount, which had to be distributed? A. Never to my knowledge—he never to my knowledge paid a cheque of ours, or anything on account of the Company, by his own cheque—I do not know of an instance of a cheque for 300l. paid into his banker's which he afterwards paid out to the Directors by his own cheques; I only know of the one instance in which he gave me mine—the Chairman is here, and Mr. Knox—I have seen three Directors here besides myself.

Q. Used the prisoner to have sums for what was called petty cash, cheques for 50l. and so on, which he had to disburse? A. I do not think he ought to have kept the petty cash—we gave him cheques for petty cash when he asked for them—we had a rule, I think, that no sum above 5l. should be paid out in petty cash—he did not frequently receive cheques for 50l. or 100l. which he had to distribute—he had not frequently cheques for such sums as 50l. or 100l. for expenses, which expenses occasionally consisted of very small items, not to my knowledge, nor do I believe to anybody's knowledge—the reason I did not know of the minute which has been read, was, because I was not there—I would not have permitted such a system to have remained for a clay—the first discovery I made of it was when you put the bundle of cheques into my hand—I can very well understand why I should not know it; 1 was not present at the Board—I do not trouble myself to read the previous minutes on all occasions, I do on many occasions—I remember something being said at the time, and being distinctly denied by the prisoner, about cheques being paid into his account—that was a long time ago; he knew that I would not have tolerated it if it had prevailed—by the deed. the Directors ought to have a guinea each time, but we do not get it—I never knew that the prisoner was security for Mr. Coode for 150l—I heard, it from the prisoner, but I never inquired about it—I do not know whether he is liable for it at this moment, I know nothing of it—I never asked Mr. Coode about it—I do not know that it is true, I should never have dreamt of such a thing—I have heard the prisoner say that he had money transactions with Mr. Coode, that is all—I say unhesitatingly, that this is the first time I have heard that the prisoner was actually security for a loan of 150l.—I heard the prisoner complain that there were pecuniary differences between himself and Mr. Coode; the particulars of those transactions I know nothing about—I have heard him say that he was security for Mr. Neison, our Actuary; I do not know it except from his statement—I know Mr. Coode's handwriting (looking at a letter), that is Mr. Coode's writing—I really do not know what the amount was that I heard he was security for.

Mr. Nelson for—I am perfectly willing to tell you all I know—I believe there were money transactions between them, but I know nothing about it had I known it at the time I should most decidedly have objected to it—how could I know the private transactions of the prisoner?.

Q. At your interview with the prisoner, did he not state to you distinctly, admitting the irregularities he had been, guilty of, that he had done nothing with a fraudulent intention towards the Company? A. Yes, he did, either in words or in substance; and I believed him at the time—until we instituted—these proceedings, we did not instruct our solicitor or counsel to charge the prisoner with stealing the two cheques for 25l. 16s. 3d., and 49l. 15s. 5d—I did not instruct them as to particular items—I cannot say that if it had not been for Alderman Humphrey, that charge would never have been brought forward—the prisoner was given into custody, I should think, about three months ago, or more than that probably; I cannot tell you the exact date—I dare say it was on 12th March last that he came to the police court and surrendered; I should think we had) applied for a warrant a fortnight before—when he left us he became either secretary or Director of another Company, I think he was first Director and then Secretary—I do not know that our Actuary gave him a recommendation to that Company, I believe he did not; it was a Company similar to ours—I cannot tell how many months he was Secretary to that Company before we apprehended him, I dare say it was three months, I really do not know; I cannot tell you whether it was six—the name of the Company is the Universal Provident—I do not think he Became connected with that Company almost immediately on leaving ours—I do not know that—I think he must have been there six months, now you mention it—I have received two letters from him since, and I wrote one letter to him, in reply to his first letter; that was whilst he was Secretary to or in that Company—Mr. Knox, a Director, undertook to communicate with the prisoner, he was a friend of the prisoner's—it was by the authority of the Board, certainly, that Mr. Knox communicated with him.

Q. Do not you know that Mr. Knox, by the authority of the Company, requested the prisoner to put an advertisement in the paper, stating that he-had resigned his situation solely because he had obtained a superior appointment? A. I know that there were communications between them, and that there was some proposal about an advertisement; something of that kind; I do not know the exact terms—I do not say that our Company wished him to put in that advertisement; the advertisement, was something of that nature—Mr. Knox was employed to go through the accounts with Mr. Be van, and to see both on the one side and on the other, how the matter lay between him and the Company—that went on for some considerable time—I remember his petitioning in the Insolvent Court, the Company opposed him there as a creditor—he put us down, in his schedule as creditors, and we appeared and opposed him—I think we prevented his obtaining his release; I was not there—I think that must have been at the latter end of last year—the accounts had been gone into then, as far as we knew them) but it took a very long time to make out the accounts—all these matters were not known then—the 20 U cheque was known—I know nothing of the 31l. cheque for the Birmingham Mercury—we used to pay the papers for advertisements and for puffs, I dare say—the accounts were thoroughly gone into between Mr. Knox and the prisoner, so far as we knew at the time—after the In solvent Court business, I believe Mr. Bevan brought an action against the Company—I only know what I have been told, but I have no doubt of it; I believe it—I believe he issued a writ the very same day that he was I discharged; I have been told so, for 500l., I believe, or something of that

sort; but I really do not know—we had intended to give him into custody before the proceedings in the Insolvent Court, but we thought they ought to be allowed to terminate first—I do not know of a circular being sent to one of the Directors of the new Company to which he belonged; I swear that (looking at a paper)—I know this circular, but it was not sent to Director of his Company, to my knowledge—I know nothing about these interpolations; I know nothing about this writing, "Mr. Smith, of Bow-lane"—I do not know whether he is one of the Directors of the Company—I did not warn that Company that the prisoner was being whitewashed, nor do I know that any one did on the part of the Company—I do not know that any of the Directors did—I not only do not know that any of the Directors sent out circulars to that effect, but I do not believe it—there are seven or eight Directors, I think—I would scorn to send such a paper as that—there is no gentleman named Clark, a Director; there was while the prisoner was there—I do not know that the prisoner was security for him for 150l.; he was one of the Directors who Mr. Bevan himself introduced, one of his own friends—I did not introduce any Director.

COURT. Q. How was that as to Mr. Coode? A. He was a Director before Mr. Bevan came.

MR. PARRY. Q. Did your Company have a dinner at Radley's hotel? A. Yes; it cost a good deal of money, I should think 200l.—it was given to our shareholders, and policy holders and agents—the prisoner had not 'authority from the Company when he went into the country to visit large towns and give dinners and entertainments; I beard him say that he did so; he has said that he invited persons to dine with him, that it was necessary, and that sort of thing—I dare say he did, we paid him very liberally.

COURT. Q. DO you mean that he charged the expenses of those dinners to you?A. No; he charged all his travelling and hotel expenses; sometimes they were large, and he explained it in that way—we paid his hotel expenses.

MR. PARRY. Q. Had he to disburse them first? A. I dare say he had—we generally gave him a cheque when he went out of town—I do. not say that he frequently had to disburse larger expenses, I believe he incurred a good deal of expense—I have not seen his banker's account, I have seen a copy of it, I believe.

Q. Have you not ascertained that while he was Secretary, he continually paid into his banker's the cheques given by the Board, and paid out money for the Company? A. I find that he has paid cheques into his banker's without our knowledge, and I have no doubt he has paid cheques on our behalf—I say "without our knowledge," because that applies only to a particular class of transactions at the utmost—there is not any one of the Directors who has had to refund any money lately that he kept back from the Company.

Q. Has any one of your Directors, refunded back the sum of 25l. in reference to shares? A. Oh, I know what you mean, yes—I do not like to say that it was money improperly retained; the reason why I do not say that is simply this, if his own statement of the matter be correct, it was not improperly retained; if another party's statement be correct, it was—the other party is not a Director—the money has been, or will be, refunded—we did not, to my knowledge, charge that against Bevan—it certainly was not charged against him to my knowledge; if it was, this is the first I have heard of it—you are aware that I had nothing to do with that—I do not wish to mention the Director's name—our Secretary, Mr. Doyle, has not, to

my knowledge, charged that 25l. against Bevan—some of our clerks have been discharged since Bevan left—we have discharged Messrs. Kingsford, Norris, and Kendall—I do not at this moment remember any others—they were not discharged for irregular transactions in the Company; we discharged Kingsford because his health was unfit; he is liable to fits at times—that was so when Bevan was there—he was the keeper of the cash book, and had to make the entries under Mr. Bevan's direction—I have not found out repeated instances in which he omitted to make entries; I mean to say that, certainly; I do not know of any instance—Kingsford had been dis. charged once previously for incapacity, and was afterwards reinstated—I have not found defalcations by any one since Mr. Bevan left—Kendall was discharged because he disobeyed the directions of the Secretary, and Norris because it was thought he was mixed up with the prisoner's matters—we discharged him very shortly after the prisoner left—I have heard Mr. Bevan state that his wife has an allowance from her father; I do not disbelieve it; I do not know anything about it; her father is a very respectable man—we gave Mr. Bevan 30l. when he left; we gave it him as a matter of mercy, at his own request—there is some furniture of his in the house; we have not kept much, and there are some chairs, and tables, looking glasses, and so on; I really cannot tell how much—they are there still, and they are used by the resident Director—they are up stairs, not in our room—I should think they are not worth more than 50l.—they may very possibly have cost 100l.; I do not know—the prisoner professed his desire to make every reparation, and he left that to pay us back part of what we had lost by him.

Q. At the time he left, did Nelson. owe him 64l. which the Company took an order for? A. I do not know any of the transactions between them, but I do remember Mr. Bevan stated that something was due from Nelson to him; what the amount was I do not know, and he gave an order to us on Neison to pay it—I know nothing more about it—he gave us an order to receive it from Nelson—I do not know that two cheques were given to Bevan to pay re-assurances, and that Lord Drumlanrig wanting money, Bevan gave those cheques to him, or got them cashed, and gave him the money—I know of no such instance, and I am perfectly persuaded Lord Drumlanrig did not know it—I believe the Company has furnished Mr. Bevan with an account of the monies that are owing, and I believe he has replied to that account giving his version of the sums owing, both on the one side and on the other; and an extraordinary thing it is.

MR. BODKIN. Q. When Mr. Bevan became Secretary to this Company did he introduce several friends of his own as Directors? A. Yes—Mr. Coode was not one of them—Mr. Clarke was one of Mr. Bevan's friends, and so, I think, was the Director who has been alluded to in respect to the transaction of the 25l.—he is still a Director—it is Dr. Scanlan—I believe he was introduced by Mr. Bevan, but I really do not know—(looking at a book) this is the result of the inquiry that took place about that 25l.—there was an inquiry, and the person mentioned in that letter attended the Board—I express no opinion upon the subject—(This portion of the examination was objected to, and not pursued)—we had an account with two different bankers—one of those was not confined to loan accounts—they were both general accounts—in the minute in the prisoner's handwriting it is confined to loan accounts—we have an account with one of our bankers, by which they lend us money upon the deposit of bills, those bills we receive from persons to whom we lend money—the object of the loan of course is, that the parties obtaining it should insure their lives—they generally insure

to about double the amount of the loan, and we, in fact, borrow the money from our bankers to lend to them—the prisoner's explanation clearly refers to those loan transactions.

COURT. Q. You lend money to persons who insure? A. Yes—it is an inducement to parties to insure—the bankers advance the money upon the security of the bills or promissory notes that we take from the parties to whom we lend the money—it is done by many Companies, it is personal security—when we can get any other security we take it, but it is on personal security—the bankers do not take an assignment of the policy, they merely take the notes from us; they discount the notes for us, in fact.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Is there anything in that resolution that extends to the ordinary payments or receipts of the Company? A. Nothing at all—on one occasion I received my fees by a cheque from the prisoner—1 had to pay 27l. for a premium on a policy on my own life in the Company, and I took at the very same time a cheque for 23l. for my fees; in point of fact, I did, as I always have done, gave back the money—a cheque had been drawn for the whole amount of the Directors' fees, 300l. I think, or there—bouts, on our own bankers—that was the single instance in which I ever received a cheque from the prisoner—(referring to the minute book)I see the amount of the cheque was 375l., it was on 6th July, '53—(referring to a memorandum) it was on 10th Nov. that I received the cheque from the prisoner, and on the same day I gave my own cheque for 27l. odd, the amount of my premium—I was not in the habit of taking a penny of my fees, I gave it back—Mr. Knox, the accountant, went through the accounts with the prisoner, to see how they stood on the books—I really cannot tell what the balance was that was found due to the Company on that statement, but I think it was 500l. or 600l.—I (do not know of my own knowledge—the prisoner materially promoted the extension of insurances at our office—I give him credit for having done it—in doing so he incurred considerable expense, which we paid him—we paid him everything which he authorised.

MR. PARRY. Q. Has he not made a claim for travelling expenses to a very considerable amount? A. He has—that was a mere afterthought COURT. Q. At the time he left your office, when he was finally dismissed, did he make any claim against your office for expenses which had not been paid? A. Oh, no; not till afterwards.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Down to the time of his removal or resignation, had you, as a Director, ever heard of any claim that he made on account of travelling expenses? A. Certainly not—we opposed his discharge in the Insolvent Court on the ground that the debt due to us was incurred by fraud—that was the ground we intended to oppose upon—upon his petition being dismissed, I believe a writ was served on the Company on the very same day—I have been told so, I really do not know—I was not present at the Insolvent Court—I believe it was dismissed upon a technical objection, but that was the ground we intended to oppose on—we said that he had actually taken our moneys, and tried to turn that which was embezzlement into debt—we have a claim upon him in respect of those transactions in a debtor and creditor account.

JOHN MILLS . I am Secretary to the Home Counties Assurance Company, and was so in July, '54, and for some time previously. In June, '54 there were some premiums due from the Deposit Company to the Home Counties—there were two on the lives of Samuel Prosser and Dennis Armstrong—about 10th June, '54, I saw Mr. Bevan—I cannot speak positively as to the date—I think there were six distinct premiums, I am

not quite certain as to the number that he ought to have paid me, and he paid me but two, or rather, I should say, four—I believe he paid four—I am not quite positive to the number—I saw him in his office—I had seen him at the same place shortly before, on that same day, and he told me that if I would bring him over my rough cash book, he would see that the premiums were entered in the ordinary course, and he would pay me the money—he told me to bring the premium receipts with me—I have got my rough cash book here—I fetched from my office the rough cash book and the premium receipts, and went over to him at his office—I should say that as I never make any entry in any book myself, I had the entries made in the rough cash book before I went over from my office to the Deposit, and I there showed Mr. Bevan that I had all the entries made—this (produced) is the rough cash book—these are the entries I showed the prisoner—I saw that he had several cheques before him in a square box, which I think he called his private cash box—I showed him that I had the entries made, and I handed him over the receipts—I handed them over for the express purpose of receiving the money—he handed me four cheques instead of, as I expected, six—those four cheques corresponded with the smaller amounts—the two that he omitted to give me were for 49l. 15s. 5d., and 25l. 16s. 3d—I said, "Mr. Bevan, you have not given me two cheques here for two premium receipts that I have given you, and I must have the cheques—he said that he would let me have the cheques in a very short time; that it was usual for one office to give credit to another; and, indeed, if he paid them within the month that would be sufficient time; that I ought not to be pressing to receive the cheques at that moment—I said that giving credit was one thing, and giving premium receipts for ready money was another—I believe some more words passed—I prayed him either to give me back my premium receipts or to give me the cheques—there was some little altercation between us, and he refused to do either the one or the other—I said it was very irregular, and repeatedly begged he would do either one or the other, but he refused to do either—I believe these were continuations of old premiums—I am not satisfied about that—they were what we call re-assurances from their office to ours—they might be new proposals, or old—that would not appear by any book—they were the first premiums, as far as we were concerned—they were new to our office—the first payment was the commencement of our risk upon those lives—in consequence of the prisoner's refusal, I left, without receiving either the cheques or the receipts—I saw the prisoner on subsequent occasions—I think the next time I saw him I was instructed by my Directors to ask him for the cheques for which I had given him the receipts—I made a claim upon him for those receipts a few days afterwards, possibly on the I Wednesday following, because that was the day after our board day—he again said I ought not to press for the money; it was true I had given the receipts, and I had not had the cheques; at the same time, it was a mere matter of credit; he should pay them before the next board day, I think he said, or soon; that he was doing a very good business with our office, and I ought not to press him—there had been some private transactions between us as to money matters—I had lent him some money—I cannot say that I pressed him for it—I asked him for it—perhaps I had better explain the transaction; Mr. Bevan wanted me to lend him 100l.; I borrowed the 100l. from a Mr. Plumley to lend him, and he gave me two-cheques of 50l. each, both dated somewhat forward; the first cheque was paid, the second was not paid—those were private cheques of his own, on his own bankers—upon the

I non-payment of the cheque, I told him it was very annoying to me, having borrowed the money for him, and I pressed him then to pay it upon this particular occasion—he said it was not convenient for him to pay then; that he could not pay then; it must stand over again—however, I felt my position to be a very unpleasant one under the circumstances, and pressed him to let I me have the money, and eventually he handed me over a cheque for a much larger amount—I cannot remember the exact date when he did that; I made no memorandum—it was after 10th June, when he asked me to come I over and bring the premium receipts—(looking at a cheque for 201l. 17s. 6d) I have no doubt this is the cheque he gave me—(this was a cheque, No. 1162, drawn on the Commercial Bank of London, on account of the Deposit and General Life Office)—it is payable to a particular person—I paid that cheque into Glyn's, on the day I received it, to Mr. Plumley's account—the prisoner gave me this cheque for the purpose of meeting his 50l. cheque that had been dishonoured—I paid it in to Mr. Plumley's account, by the wish of Mr. Bevan—I had told him that I borrowed the money of Mr. Plumley, and I was to hand him back the balance—I think there was nothing more than that 50l. which he owed me privately—Mr. Plumley was to hand me the balance, to hand over to Bevan—he did so—I did not hand it over to Bevan at first; I refused to do so, because I desired to have the return of my premium receipts—I believe Mr. Bevan came to my office and asked me for the balance—I told him I would let him have it in a very short period; at the same time, I must decline letting him have it unless I had the premium receipts which I had given him, and also the amounts which I had entered in the cash book—he was somewhat angry at that resolve of mine—he said he thought he ought not to be so treated, and an argument took place with regard to it—I said I must have the premium receipts back before I gave him the money, or he must pay me, one of those alternatives—he eventually gave me the receipts, and I then handed him the balance of the 201l. cheque—I do not recollect what he said to me—(referring to the cash book)—I see the premiums were paid on 22nd July, I mean the premiums of Armstrong and Prosser—a letter was received by me from the Directors of the Deposit Company on 22nd July—I believe an answer was returned to it; our letter book will show—I know that another letter was written by me to the Directors of the Deposit Company; I cannot say the exact date without seeing the book—the money for the receipts was paid on 22nd July, I should say as nearly as possible, about 11 o'clock, as soon as I arrived at the office, or soon after—it was paid in various ways, and I therefore had a memorandum made at the time of the way in which I received the money—(referring to it)—this is it—it was paid in bank notes for 20l. and 5l.; a cheque on the London and County Bank, signed, "Gray and Warren," for 15l.; a cheque on the Commercial Bank from the Deposit Company, No. 1249, for 5l.; another cheque from the Deposit, No. 1248, for 12l. 10s.; a cheque on the London and County Bank, signed "Charles Bevan, "for 21l. 10s. 2d.; and cash, 2l. 13s. 9d.; that was, I think, in gold and silver—I have not added up those amounts—I think there were some other premiums then due—these two cheques for 15l. and 21l. (produced) are the two cheques referred to—the 15l. cheque was paid; the prisoner's was dishonoured—I subsequently received from the Deposit Company a cheque for the amount of the dishonoured cheque of Bevan's—between 10th June and the time when the two premiums were paid, our office did not cover the risk, so that during that time the insurances would have been upon the Deposit Company, instead of upon us; not on us, at any rate.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Did you write a letter to the Company or their Secretary, on 22nd July) A. My impression is, that on that day I did not write the letter, 1 think one of our clerks did, but we can easily learn whether I did or not—you must allow me to refer to my book; if I did there would be a copy in the letter book—(referring)—on 22nd July I wrote this—I can easily explain it if I am allowed; it was in answer to a letter that I received from the Company, not from Bevan, I think; I do not know whether it was received on the day before—(letter read—"22nd July, 1854. To Charles Bevan, Esq.: Dear Sir, we consider the lives of Armstrong and Prosser to have been re-assured to this office. Signed, John Mills")—that letter was written after I had received the money, and in answer to a letter that was sent—I believe it was not in answer to a letter written to me on 22nd July—(looking at a Utter)—this is dated 21st July, but I received it on 22nd, when I came to the office—(this was a letter from Bevan to Mills, dated 21st July, 1854, in these words: "Sir, I am instructed by the Board to inquire whether you consider your Company as being on the lives of Armstrong and Prosser, cross-assured by this office")—when I got to the office in the morning, that letter was waiting my arrival; and previous to my answering it, Mr. Bevan brought me the money, therefore I answered it in the way I did—that is the money that I have spoken of, paid by those various cheques—Mr. Bevan came himself with the money—in my intercourse with Mr. Bevan, I have found that he is a man of a decidedly excitable and impulsive temperament; very much so, not only in the course of these investigations, but before; I have always considered him so—he is decidedly a clever man—I was introduced by him to the Chairman of the Home Counties, and through that introduction I became Secretary of the Company—I have been a sportsman, and have written a good deal—I am not the celebrated Joe Muggins's Dog, or Touchstone, I have always written in my own name; I have written many books on sports, and other things—Mr. Bevan has lent me money to a larger amount than I have lent him—I think I may have had 10l. of him at a time, or something of that sort; not as much as 50l. atone time—I think I may have had 50l. at various times—T think not as much as 100l.—(looking at a cheque)—he did not lend me 30l. on one occasion, I swear he did not—I sold him two horses, that would account for it; I think he gave me 45l., for one, and I believe forty guineas for the other—I do not think he bought them to sell again, he did sell them subsequently—I have never lent him a cheque which he was to have paid on the part of his Company to mine—he did not ask me to lend him these two cheques of Armstrong's and Prosser's for a day or two; I never had them to lend—he did not ask me to let him keep them back for a day or two—I do not know the exact date when I handed him over the receipts, the rough cash book will show—I should imagine he had those two receipts for ten days, or a fortnight, before he returned them to me—I mentioned the matter to my Directors before he returned them at the next Board day, the first opportunity I had of mentioning it to them—I saw one of my Directors on the bench a little while ago—six or seven pages of this rough cash book have been torn out within the last few days—I very much wish I could discover how it has been done; it is of no very great importance, but it is one of the greatest mysteries possible—it has been in the possession of our clerk; I do not believe he did it, I cannot discover who did it; it has been in our office the whole time—we have a number of clerks—we cannot discover who tore the book; I should say that the regular cash book has every entry: that has not been torn, it is only the rough cash book—the ticks to these items are made by

Mr. Beddall when he posts them; he can explain that—I know nothing about them—if you wish to know exactly when the money was paid, or how long he held these receipts, you can easily learn, because then they were entered there, they were not carried into the business cash book; when they were carried into the business cash book was the time I received the I premiums, and then handed back the receipts; that book will tell you—I have no doubt the receipt book is here (produced)—these are my initials, "J. M."—these are the counterfoils of the receipts, these are dated 10th June.

COURT. Q. Did you hand them to him the same day that you wrote them? A. I cannot say positively, but I should think I did.

MR. SERJEANT WILKINS. Q. The counterfoils are dated 10th June, with your initials placed to them, how do you account for that? A. I really do not at this moment know how to account for it—these are the two receipts (looking at them), and they are dated June 10—I cannot positively state whether I gave him the receipts on that day, but my impression is that I did—I did not say positively that they were out of my possession ten days, but we can easily learn exactly by referring to the cash book—by comparing the entries in the rough cash book with the cash book, we shall see how it was (referring) it would appear to be from 10th June—I have no doubt, and had no doubt when I answered the question, that I gave those receipts on 10th June, and the money was absolutely paid on 22nd July, according to our books, consequently they were out of our hands the whole of that time—when I handed the 101l. to Mr. Bevan, I got the receipts back, I am sure of that—at the time Mr. Bevan brought me the various cheques to pay the premiums, I do not recollect his saying anything to me about the letter that had been written.

MR. PARRY. Q. Did you not receive two other amounts from the prisoner on the 22nd July? A. Yes; on account of Betts and Danks, 14l. 2s. 1d., and 26l. 1s. 8d., making altogether 115l. 15s. 5d.—those were the payments I had from him on the 22nd—I do not know whether he called more than once on the 22nd.

COURT. Q. When he came to your office on the morning of the 22nd, and paid these sums by various cheques and notes, was nothing said about these receipts? A. I think not on that occasion; he merely came to give me the money, and to have my receipts—nothing was said about the answer I should give to the letter from the office; I do not think anything was said—I wrote the answer; it was a direct answer to a direct question—I did not wish to injure Mr. Bevan—there was no arrangement—I do not think any allusion was made to it when he came to me—I am not certain about it, but I think not.

MR. PARRY. Q. Did Mr. Bevan bring any action against you which failed? A. He did—he paid half the costs—I did not order him to be arrested the last day he was here; I knew nothing about it.

GEORGE PERKS . I am a glass manufacturer, carrying on business at Nailsea, near Bristol—in the years 1853-4, I was agent to the Deposit and General Assurance Company, at Birmingham—I believe I never received this cheque for 31l. 16s. from the prisoner—I did not; the money was sent through the bank, and I signed for it—I do not believe I ever received that—this is the receipt for the money (producing it)—it is dated 22nd June—I dare say it was about that time I had it—it is a receipt for the 31l. for the payment to the Birmingham Mercury—that reminds me of when 1 got the money from the bank; I believe I received it the same day—I believe 1 paid part of it myself to the Birmingham Mercury, and I got

the money from the bank afterwards—I got the money from the bank after I had paid part of it to the Birmingham Mercury—I did not get the receipt till I paid the balance—I had a receipt for what I paid, but when I paid the whole, they gave me a proper receipt—I never received the cheque, and the money which I did receive was in June, and I paid it in June to the Mercury office—I believe I received the money through the Binning, ham banking company: to the best of my recollection I did: yes, I remember that I signed the receipt in London, and the money was sent down afterwards with others—I signed the receipt in London, at Mr. Bevan's request—I signed it on the day on which it bears date, 27th April, 1854—I believe I was at that time in London; I must have been.

COURT. Q. And you did not receive the money for which you so signed a receipt, until 22nd June? A. No, I did not; it came through the bankers; that was two months afterwards.

MR. SERJEANT WILKINS. Q. How came you to sign the receipt without having received the money? A. I have done so several times—sometimes I would sign the book, and he would give me a cheque of his own, and the cheque would be returned, though, of course, my receipt was in the book—I have done that several times for Mr. Bevan, at his request.

COURT. Q. Do you remember how you came to sign it on that occasion, what statement did he make to you? A. Sometimes that the Directors would not give me the cheque until the book was signed—I do not know that he said so on that occasion—I did not doubt but what I should have got the money at the time—Mr. Bevan may have given me one of his own cheques, and it may have been returned; I do not remember whether he did MR. SERJEANT WILKINS. Q. Did you ever receive that cheque for 201l. from Mr. Bevan? A. No, I did not—I believe I did not sign a receipt for that money before I got it; I do not believe I did—I was in London on 16th June—I then paid Mr. Bevan 100l.; that was in Bridge-street, in the Company's office—he asked me for it when I was in London, and he wrote to me before I came up—I do not think I have got the letter; I have got the telegraphic message that he sent me to come up—this is it—(read: I "14th June, Perks, 100. 4, New-street, Birmingham. Be sure to come up by mail train to night, and be with me at 9 to breakfast True bill against Keating. Bevan.")—I came up in consequence of that, that same night, and I paid him the 100l. on the morning of the 16th—I had "breakfast with him—I do not remember what he said to me, but I paid him the money—he did not explain to me why he had sent to me by telegraph—he said there was 201l. 17s. due in Birmingham to Rashfield; he said that I must pay that account; and he gave me another, 101l. 17s., which made the 201l. 17A. which money I took back and discharged the debt in Birmingham—he returned me the 100l. that I paid him, added 101l. 17s. to it, and desired me to pay Pacified with those two amounts, and he gave me a receipt for the money—I paid him the 100l., because it was the money of a cheque that I had brought up from Birmingham, to pay him on behalf of the Company—I paid him the 100l. with the Company's money—(looking at a letter) this is Mr. Bevan's writing—it is dated 7th July—I received it on the 16th June—(read: "Dear Sir,—I beg to acknowledge the receipt of 100l., which has been duly passed to your credit and account")—that is the receipt for the 100l. that I paid him on 16th June—I noticed that the date was wrong, and I made a memorandum at the time in pencil, which is there now, that this should be 16th June, and I afterwards addressed it to myself; I was enclosing something, and put it through the

just, and it was sent with other letters from the Gray's-inn Hotel where I was staying, and I got it in Birmingham—it went to my place of business there.

COURT. Q. What did you send it down to Birmingham for? A. To show that I should be right in paying the money on that date—I saw that there was a mistake; I did not know that it was anything particular, and I sent it down to get a postmark with the proper date upon it—I thought it was a mistake—it was not directed when the prisoner gave it to me—this is my own writing upon it; I addressed it to myself—I got the letter from Mr. Bevan—this is the receipt he handed to me in the office—I took it with me to Gray's Inn Coffee-house, and finding the date was wrong, I made this pencil mark upon it, and then directed it to myself at Binningham, in order to get the post-office stamp to it, as an authentic memorandum of the day on which I received it.

MR. SERJEANT WILKINS. Q. Look at that receipt (another) that is dated 16th June? A. Yes, that is Mr. Bevan's writing—I have signed it—(read: "June 16th, 1854. Received from the Deposit and General Life Assurance Company 201l. 17s. 6, the amount of Rashley's account.")

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. You have paid Rashley, have you not? I have, and handed the receipt to the Company—the prisoner and I were on very intimate terms, and have been for a very considerable period—I have known him from the time I was connected with the Company—I do not remember ever lending him a cheque that I had received on behalf of the Company for premiums; I am sure I have not—I have never allowed him to keep back cheques which I have received for premiums on behalf of the Company, nor has he subsequently paid me with cheques of his own—I have an I O U of his—I have lent him 'money—on my oath I did not lend him this 100l. which I have said I paid him—of course I claim, that against the Company—I paid it to them—I have a claim against the Company—there is an action now pending by me against the Company—I charge them with that 1002. as having received it; it was passed into the account—the prisoner has not repeatedly told me that I lent him that 100l—he may have said so, but it does not follow that I lent him the money) 1 do not know what he may have said—I have heard it said, but I never did anything of the sort—I took the 1002. back to pay this account—he did not ask me to lend him that 1002., and tell me that before 7th July he would place it to my account with the Company; nor did I say, "All right, Charley"—I will swear that; I am sure I did not—the Company have not said that if they were convinced of this 100l. they would allow it me, no-thing of the kind; nor has the Secretary—the Company have not told me, nor has any one connected with them, that if Bevan was convicted of embezzling this 1002., they would admit it in my account—they are obliged to admit it in my account, because I paid it to them—Bevan did not tell me, on the day he gave me the receipt dated July 7th, that he was going to have money from the Oak Arbitration, and he would then place the 100l. to my account—he said nothing at all about the Oak Arbitration—I do not believe I have ever said so—the Oak Arbitration was not mentioned on that day—I know nothing about the Oak Assurance Company—I do not mean to say that I did not know he had an arbitration with the Oak Company, but I say about that day—this was given to me open—it was written in my presence—I looked at the date that night, and put the date on it at the hotel—I went the next day to Birmingham; I believe it was on the Saturday—I was going that night, but it was the only time in my life that I ever

missed the train—I do not remember what time I went next day I know I went next day—I stated to you over and over again that I went to Birmingham that night, and that was the reason I posted the letter; but you won't say what I told you afterwards; I told you the reason, that I missed the train, or I was going that night—I did not go to Bevan's next morning and get it altered, because I did not know anything about the date; the letter had gone the same night before I left.

Q. Where did you get the 100l. from that you paid to Bevan? A. First of all I got a cheque for 100l. for a premium from a Mr. John Danks, of Great Bridge; it was paid into Lloyd's bank—my father gave me the cash for the cheque—I have not stated that my father gave me a cheque for 100l.—I will swear that—I know that inquiries were made at my fathers banker's—I did not pay the cheque into my father's banker's; I paid it to my father—he gave me cash for it—he gave it me in money—I do not remember how many sovereigns—I dare say there were sovereigns and notes—he is not here—he gave it me in Birmingham, at his office, in Coleshill-street; he is an iron merchant—I believe he gave it me in the office—I know he gave me the money—I do not recollect what time of day—he took the money out of his till, the 104l. 6s. 8—I do not remember what time of day it was—I do not remember what time Danks gave me the cheque—my father keeps a banking account—it was notes and gold that he gave me—I have not stated that it was notes only that my father gave me—I do not believe I ever said so—I had it in money—I believe it was notes and gold—it was not a large note; it was in different notes and gold—the Magistrate told me to bring up my father and my books, but my father could not come, on account of my mother being so dangerously ill—I have a cash book which will show the payment of the 100l. to Mr. Bevan on behalf of the Company—I have got it here—I believe it is entered on 16th June—I have no other books (producing a book)—here is the entry, "Dr. to Danks, 104l. 6s. 8 Contra ditto, Deposit Company, 100l. "—that entry was made at the time when I went back to Birmingham, after I had posted the letter—I have no other book but this, containing any account of the Company's.

COURT. Q. Did you enter the sums you received on behalf of the Company on the one side, and the sums you paid on the other? A. Yes—this is a general cash book—I do not think there are transactions in it not connected with the Company.

MR. PARRY. Q. Were you not furnished by the Company with a printed book as their agent? A. Yes, but it was never used—Danks' payment was for a premium—I kept no other book but this; the printed book was not for money matters, not for cash at all—I do not believe Mr. Bevan took up the 100l.; I did not lend it to him—he did not ask me to lend him the money till the 7th July; there was nothing said about it, to my recollection—he did not say, "George, let me have this for a few days"—if Mr. Bevan had said so I would state so, but I do not remember a word about it—he did not say it in my hearing—I never asked Mr. Bevan to alter a cheque for me—I asked him to write and acknowledge the amount of a receipt, not a cheque—I did not ask him to write and acknowledge the amount of a receipt that had not been paid—I did not ask him to acknowledge the receipt of 90l. instead of 9l., to fix the Company—I did not ask him to alter a receipt from 9l. to 90l., to fix the Company: I swear that—I asked him to write an acknowledgment, because I had got his I O U for 100l., and Mr. Bevan had the money; he kept it out of a cheque that I had paid on behalf

of the Company, and I had his I 0 U for it—I never asked him to alter a receipt from 9l. to 90l.—I never said that I did, not that I know of—I have not said so.

COURT. Q. What do You say you did ask him to acknowledge? A. A receipt for 90l.—the memorandum was, I forget the date now, for 9l.—I asked him for the date to acknowledge the receipt for the money—he gave me his I O U for 100l., which I have got here—there was a receipt for 9l.—I did not ask Mr. Bevan to alter that receipt from 9l. to 90l.; it was to acknowledge the receipt for 90l., and Mr. Bevan said he would do it—I asked him to acknowledge the receipt for 90l. which he had had of me, on his 10 U for 100l.—he kept the 100l., and gave me his I O U—he said he wanted it on behalf of the Company.

MR. PARRY. Q. I again repeat the question, and I will put to you the names of two individuals before whom it is alleged you said it? A. I can say who was there, there was a Mr. Sleeman there—I do not know whether he is deputy lieutenant of the county—I did not. say in the presence of Mr. Sleeman and Mr. Thomas that I had asked Bevan to alter a receipt from 9l. to 90l.—I do not believe I said "to alter;" I do not believe I did say such a thing—I am stating now, to the best of my recollection, that I do not believe I ever said such a thing—I do not believe I ever did.

MR. SERJEANT WILKINS. Q. Is your father in partnership with one of Mr. Yates's sons? A No; he is my relation—my father is in partnership with James Hartley, of Sunderland—at the time I am speaking of, I believe, Mr. Danks banked with the Dudley and West Bromwich Banking Company—my father banks at Lloyds'—this is the cheque made payable to me (looking at it)—it has passed through Lloyds' and been cashed there—I do not know who Captain Sleeman is, I have met him several times; I believe he is a friend of Mr. Bevan's; he was a Director of the Company—Mr. Thomas is an agent, at Bristol; he was connected with the Deposit at the same time I was.

Q. Tell us what this story is about the 90l? A. In the first instance, Mr. Bevan had a cheque from the Company for 200l. odd, for me; I believe it was 207l.—I never saw the cheque, though, at all; he never gave it me—I had 100 shares in the Company, and Mr. Bevan deducted out of that, 45l. for my shares, and then he gave me an I O U for 100l., and he gave me a cheque for some money after, which was returned—I was going out with Mr. Bevan the same day, and he put my pocket book in his despatch box, and went to London next morning, and took the box with my pocket book in it to London; he sent me my pocket book when I was in London; in the meantime he took out my receipt for the 45l., which I had given him for my shares, and gave me my pocket book—he said he had the 100l. on behalf of the Company; he wanted it for the Company, and he gave me his I O U for it, which I have now, and that is dated wrong—with respect to the rest of the 207l., I had a cheque of Mr. Bevan's; that was dishonoured—I do not remember the amount now—I have got his I O U now; I do not set much value upon it; I have never got the cash for it—I had occasion to pay him 9l., but that was not then, that was an old receipt—it was after the time he had left the Company—he had offered to write me a receipt for the money; he said it was on behalf of the Company, it was not fair 1 should lose it, and he offered to write and acknowledge it—that had nothing to do with the other 100l.—he was to set it off against the 207l.; that was money he kept—I think Mr. Bevan gave me about 35l. when I was in London, that was out of the 207l.—I believe that was somewhere about the amount.

COURT. Q. Do you mean that he withheld 100l. out of that 207l., and gave you his I O U for it? A. Yes; that was part of the 207l.

MR. PARRY. Q. Will you swear he did not pay you 100l. odd in April, 1854? (handing a cheque to the witness) A. I do not believe I ever had that cheque.

COURT. Q. Did you receive a sum of 100l. 3s. in April, 1854? A. I do not remember; but if I received that money it would be in my cash book (referring to it)—I did not about 4th April, or any time in April, receive 100l. 3s.

MR. SERJEANT WILKINS. Q. You say that on the evening when the receipt was given you, you intended to go by the railway? A. Yes; I found I was too late for the train—I had posted my letter to Birmingham before I left the hotel.

COURT. Q. What were you paying him this 9l. for? A. It was an old receipt—I was only showing Mr. Bevan some receipts at the time—I had paid him the 9l. for the Company—at that time he owed me 100l. on his I OU—I asked him then to give me an acknowledgment for 90l., became I said the receipt for that would keep it square; it would make it up to 99l.—I did not ask him to change it, I asked him to write and acknowledge the receipt of 90l.—I did not ask him to substitute a new receipt for the old one of 9l.—I had an old receipt for 9l., and I asked him to give me a receipt for 90l., because that would just have made 99l.—I did not care about the 100l.—I did not ask him to change the 9l. into 90l.; I did not ask him to alter the receipt—I asked him to write and acknowledge the receipt of 90l—I do not know I am sure why I should fix upon 90l., because I did not care about the 100l.—I am quite sure I did not ask him to alter this to 90l.—the 100l. I received from Danks was for premiums—I was going to London, and I wrote the night before to Mr. Bevan to ask him if he would be kind enough to send down the policy as quick as possible, for I was going to receive the money that day, and then Mr. Bevan telegraphed me to come up to London—I paid him the 100l., and took his receipt for 100l.; the other 4l. passed into the account (referring to the book)—there was a running account.

MR. PARRY. Q. Did not Mr. Bevan give you an I O U, which you afterwards destroyed? A. No, I have never destroyed it—I never had but one from him, and he knows it—I have got that here—I did not have another which I destroyed, nor did I say I would stick to the receipt, which was much better than his I O U—I never said that—I never heard such a thing mentioned or breathed before.

JAMES ANDREW HOLMES . I am a clerk in the London and County Bank The prisoner had an account there—I cannot say that this cheque for 31l. 16s. was paid in to his account—I cannot say that it was paid into our bank—there is no mark on the face of it that will enable me to say—it is pasted in the book—I am occasionally in the habit of making a mark on the back—I have a book which I think I can prove it by (looking at the cheque)—I have no doubt it has gone through our bank—here is some writing on the back—I expect it is the writing of one of the clerks—I do not know the writing—(referring the book) it was paid to the prisoner's account.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Have you the whole of his account there? A. No—he was in the habit of paying in cheques to his account, and drawing out cheques to a considerable extent.

JOSEPH FELTHAM . I am a clerk in the house of Messrs. Glyn. On 10th

June a sum of 31l. 16s. was paid into our bank, to be credited to Mr. George Perks, of Birmingham, by the Deposit and General Life Assurance Company—this cheque for 25l. 16s. 3d. appears to have gone through our house, and the entry in my book is that I received a cheque on the Commercial Bank for 25l. 16s. 3d., a 5l. note, and 19s. 6d. in money—I should think that 25l. 16s. 3 formed part of the 31l. 16s., but there is to nothing on the cheque to state that—the cheque is dated the 8th, the cash-was received on the 10th.

HENRY SAMUEL HALL . I am a clerk in the Commercial Bank. The Deposit Assurance Company have an account at our house—this cheque for 49l. 15s. 3d. dated 8th June, was paid at the counter by me on 10th June—"Puget & Co." is written across it—I believe that was not on it when it was presented to me for payment—we should only pay a cheque so crossed to Puget's, and this was not.

COURT. Q. Would you pay it to Puget's over the counter? A. Yes; bat I always mark it at the back if so, and there is no mark on this—my belief is that this must have been written on it since it left our house—we return the vouchers to the Company—there is no course of banking which would induce me to write Puget and Co. across it in the bank—I paid it myself.

MR. BODKIN. Q. Are you sure, on looking at your entry in the book, that that cheque was not presented through Puget's house? A. Quite certain—this cheque for 25l. 16s. 3 was paid to Glyn's, not in the clearing'.

GEORGE COLLINS . I am clerk to Messrs. Puget and Co.; they are bankers to the Home Counties Insurance Office. This cheque for 49l. 15s. 5d: did not pass through our bank—it is crossed with our name, but it did not pus through the bank.

EDWARD FIELD KINGSFORD . I know the handwriting of Mr. Bevan—I believe the words, "Puget & Co." across this 49l. cheque to be Mr. Bevan's writing, but I could not swear to say that I am positive.

FRANCIS WARRENS . I am a stationer, living at Croydon. In the course of last year I made application to the Deposit Company for thirty shares—4 1 had a letter of allotment, and on that sent a cheque for 152.—this is it (produced)—I forwarded that to the prisoner, as Secretary to the Company, on 19th July, the date of the cheque—it has been returned to me from my bankers as a paid cheque—I received this letter acknowledging the receipt of the cheque—(This was a letter, dated 22nd July. 1854, signed by the prisoner, acknowledging the receipt of a cheque for 15l., and stating that the shares should be sent)—I have never received the shares—some months afterwards I made application about them, and that led to an investigation.

GEORGE KNOX . I am an accountant In July, 1854,1 was employed to go through the books and accounts of the Deposit Company—I think I began on 26th July—I saw the prisoner at the office—I first went through the books by myself—it was probably three or four days after I first went to investigate the accounts, that I had conversation with the prisoner respecting them; about 29th or 30th July—I was passing him on leaving the office, and I remarked to him that it was a very large balance to account for on the cash book—he said, "Balance up the cash at the end of the month, and in five minutes I will give a satisfactory explanation of everything"—I balanced the cash book to the end of July—although Mr. Bevan was suspended he was still residing in the house—some days after, I made out a statement of the balance that appeared on the cash book at the end of the month, as also of some other cheques that had been drawn by the Company,

and had been cashed by the Company's bankers, for which there were no vouchers in the Company's books during the months of June and July, and on 3rd Aug. a copy of that statement was handed to Mr. Bevan—I have that statement now in my hand; a copy of it was furnished to the prisoner—about 12th or 14th Aug. I went through that statement with the prisoner, in the presence of his solicitor, Mr. Lawrence—he was present during the whole time—the balance that was shown on the books on 31st July was 521l. 3s. 6d., to be accounted for by the cashier of the Company—that ought to have been the balance in the hands of the Company's cashier to the 31st July—I arrived at that amount by taking the entries as they appeared in the books—there was a large account gone into between us with respect to amounts that had been discovered where there were no entries in the books; I have stated them in this account—I first called his attention to this deficiency of the 521l.—he did not dispute that the balance of the cash book was taken out correctly, and that that was the balance that ought to be in the hands of the cashier on 31st July, but he said there was 4l. 15s. 3 that had been received, subsequently to his leaving, and was still in the hands of the cashier, and, therefore, that the balance at the time he resigned, and which he ought to have accounted for, was 516l. 8s. 3d—he said in terms that that 4l. 15s. 3d. he was not accountable for, and I admitted it at once—all the moneys that had been received between 2nd and 31st July, had been paid into the bank, except that 4l. 15s. 3d., therefore that had to be deducted from the balance in hand at the time he resigned—he objected to the correctness of the cash book with respect to the entry of three bills of the amounts of 70l., 40l., and 35l.—he said those bills had been twice entered in the cash book, whereby he was twice charged with having received the money; that they were entered when they were received, and afterwards when they were discounted—I found that two of them had been twice entered, but the third one, for 35l., had not; it was not carried into account in the cash book, but some time afterwards, it might have been a month afterwards—I found that that mistake of the double entry had been corrected, I went through all the entries of the accounts of moneys due and cheques drawn—the payment of one cheque of 201l. to Rashley was entered in the cash book, and the voucher appeared—I did not charge that against him at that time; it was not discovered then.

COURT. Q. What was the final result to which you came? A. The final result was that he admitted a considerable portion of these items charged in the account—I should think about 700l. or 800l.—we did not agree on any balance between us—the prisoner did not admit all that was stated—I think the amount admitted in the account to be deficient, amounts to between 700l. and 800l., but that was not a balance—he did not, at the close of my investigation, name any sum as due from him; he did not admit that there was any sum due from him as a balance—I had never seen his account before—it was handed me at the moment—I had not an opportunity of examining it.

MR. BODKIN. Q. With reference to the account which you say, on your own showing, showed a balance of 516l., how much of that did he agree with you was due to the Company upon the statement of one side or the other of the books? A. He admitted that the 516l. was correct, except those cheques for 70l., 40l., and 35l., which he said ought to be deducted I from it—two of those were properly objected to, the other was not—that I would be a deduction of 110l. from 516l., making 406l.; that was the balance of the cash book, independent of the other items, which he admitted—I

then called his attention to items which did not appear in the books at all—I have a list of them; the first is an item of 15l. from Armitage; he admitted that he had received that money, and had not accounted for it, therefore that would be added to the balance—the next item was 32l. 16s. 7d. received from a Captain Drummond; that he admitted, that had not been entered in the cash book—there is an entry in the rough cash book of the 15l. paid by Mr. Armitage, but it is not in the principal cash book—there is no entry of Mr. Warren's money at all in any of the books—the prisoner had access to the books during all the time he remained, at least till within a few days of the time he left—I think he left on 19th Aug.—he had access I to the books to make extracts, and look over them from 30th July to 19th Aug.—I find no entry in any of the books of 100l. paid by Perks for Danks' premium; there is no entry of 100l. having been paid by Perks—those two sums of 100l. and 15l. form no part of the 516l.—I was not aware of any such items at the time the books were made up—the items of the account were taken one after the other, and the question how far he admitted and how far he denied them—he admitted the greater portion of them—he admitted the 15l., 31l. 6s. 7d., three amounts of 5l. each, 25l., and 19l.; all cheques that had been drawn for certain payments, and had not been applied to those payments—the amount of the sums admitted, independent of the balance in the* cash book, was about 220l.—he admitted the receipt of money to the amount of 220l. which did not appear in the books.

Cross-examined. Q. Did not Mr. Lawrence say to you, in the presence of Mr. Barnes, a Director, and Mr. Neison, when Mr. Bevan was there, "If you have any criminal charge, we are ready to meet it at the Mansion House directly?" A. I have no recollection "of it; I will not swear he did not—I have no recollection that Mr. Bevan repeatedly said so—I may mention that when I entered the room, there was some excited discussion going on between Mr. Barnes, Mr. Bevan, and Mr. Neison—I do not remember hearing Mr. Barnes say, "We don't mean a criminal charge"—I will not swear he did not—I have not seen Mr. Barnes here to day—I did not see any letter from the prisoner, or the account itself, until I came into the room at that time.

Q. Was a letter written by the prisoner in which he makes various claims of different items against the Company, ever placed in your hands 1 A. I think there was a letter written by the prisoner along with the account, and which Mr. Barnes had in his possession—I had possession of the account and of the letter; the account was placed in my hands for the first time at the time the discussion was taking place—in that account there was a claim of 300l. or 400l. against the Company by the prisoner.

Q. I believe he also added that there was 75l. of salary due to him at the time? A. There was a dispute between him and Mr. Barnes about that when I entered the room—I do not know whether that excited Mr. Barnes—I do not think he claimed anything for his furniture in the account—there was no balance finally struck.

Q. No balance was struck between the parties, nor any admission on one side or the other? A. There could not be at the time, because I had never seen such a thing before.

MR. ROBINSON. Q. Have you got the account? A. Yes, I have (handing it in)—I have gone through it—it is the account of Mr. Bevan, stating his claim against the Company—by this he makes out a balance against the Company of 347l. 5s. 1d.—the amount of his claims altogether is

709l. 4s. 7d., but he gives them credit for that amount, less the 347l. balance.

COURT. Q. Is that independent of the 400l. odd, ascertained to be deficient by the books? A. I do not know what he means by these items at all; that is no part of the moneys said to be deficient—he says he holds these moneys for the Company, but ho did not account for them at the time—the amount he gives the Company credit for is 362l. in this statement—this is his original statement—that is independent of the sum of 400l. odd which I had ascertained to be deficient.

MR. ROBINSON. Q. Does he charge travelling expenses there? A. He charges travelling expenses in the account of the balance—there appear to be many cheques drawn for travelling expenses, and paid to the prisoner for that—they were drawn at the time the expenses were incurred—there is no one cheque covering them all, but cheques from time to time.

GEORGE KNOX I am a director of the Deposit and General Life Assurance Company.

Crow-examined by MIL PARRY. Q. Have you ever had any complaint made against yourself for stealing a cheque, or cash book, or anything of the kind? A. No, 1 am not aware of it; I am certain of it—I have had a bill filed against me in Chancery, with a number of other Directors of the Company—it is a joint affair—I did not apply to the prisoner to put an advertisement in the paper, stating that the only ground of his resigning his situation as Secretary was, that he had obtained a superior appointment; I swear that—I must give an explanation of the whole matter: the prisoner called upon me at my house, in consequence of an interview I had with his wife, stating that he had put on advertisement in the Times, evidently intending to injure the Deposit Company, and that was a violation of a pledge which he had given not to injure, the Company; upon which I undertook, so far as I was able, with my knowledge of the matter at that time, to prevent any proceeding being taken against him—he stated that he had no such intention in inserting it—I repeated that it evidently had that bearing—he said that he would put in an advertisement to contradict it, to show that he had no such intention—I said that would only make the matter worse—I said, "If you put in a simple advertisement, stating that you have left the Deposit, having obtained another engagement, probably that will meet the case;" and be asked me if I would sketch out one, which I did at that time—I have not a complete recollection of it—this was about 22nd or 23rd Aug. last—I certainly did not suggest that he should put an advertisement in the Times, stating that the only cause of his resigning his secretary-ship was, that he had obtained a superior appointment—if you will read it, you will find it has no such moaning; I believe it will not bear that construction—we had not put in an advertisement against him; not that I am aware of; I have no recollection of it.

COURT. Q. Which was it you suggested, that he should only say he had left on account of getting a better situation, or that he left you only on that account? A. I think the wording of it, as near as I can recollect, was an announcement to the public, that in consequence of having obtained an appointment in the Universal Provident, he had left the Deposit; it was to that effect—I suggested that ho should only say that, not that he should say that was the only cause; I understand the distinction—I did not suggest that he should say he left for one reason only, I drew it up myself.

MR. PARRY. Q. (Handing a paper to the witness). Just see if that is your handwriting? A. It is; I have read it.

Q. Now, I ask you, did not you suggest to Mr. Bevan, that he should put an advertisement in the public papers, stating that his resignation was the result of having obtained a superior appointment? A. Yes; it beam that construction; this was in Aug.

MR. SERJEANT WILKINS. Q. What caused you to suggest that advertisement A. I have mentioned that he had inserted an advertisement in the Times, the ordinary reading of which would convey that he had left the Deposit Office for some cause connected with the Deposit Company, and I considered that a violation of a pledge which he gave to me, that he would do nothing to injure the Company; upon which I had undertaken, with the partial knowledge I had at that time of hit defalcations, not to take any proceedings of a criminal nature against him—at that time I was certainly not Aware of the extent of his deficiencies, not one-third of them—when I said that I would use my exertions to prevent any criminal proceedings being taken against him, it was upon his stating that the whole amount of his defalcations were included in what appeared on the face of the cash book itself and one or two small items in addition, which were put down on a paper made out by the accountant; connected with which, I considered the Board was in some degree partly to blame for not having had the cash book added up before them, and I felt that perhaps we had no case in a criminal prosecution.

COURT. Q. Was this on the tame occasion when the suggestion was made about the advertisement? A. No, a week previously. (The Court was of opinion that this did not arise out of the cross-examinations, and could not be pursued.)

LORD VISCOUNT DRUMLANRIG , M. P. I am Chairman of this Company; Q. Has the prisoner ever paid you personally a cheque for any amount of money? A. I once received a cheque, I think it was a Company's cheque, for 75l., about July or Aug. 1853, for Directors' fees.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you remember sending to Mr. Bevan a cheque for 80l. to be cashed? A. No; I have no recollection—I do not recollect ever sending any cheque from Limner's Hotel—the only recollection I have of a cheque was one for 75l., or 661, for Directors' feet—I alto recollect lending the office money, 300l. at one time, which I think I tent from Suet-land, not from Limmer's Hotel—I have no recollection of any cheque; if there was, it must have been money paid—I have not the slightest recollecttion of the prisoner's taking two cheques from me which had been given for another purpose, and of those two cheques being afterward repaid to him by the Committee.


(There were other indictments against the prisoner, which were postponed until the next Session.)

THIRD COURT.—Thursday, June 14th, 1855.

PRESENT—Mr. Aid. SALOMONS; Mr. Aid. Wire; Mr. Aid. KENNEDY; Mr. COMMON Serjeant; and RUSSELL GURNEY, Esq.

Before Russell Gurney, Esq., and to Seventh Jury.

Reference Number: t18550611-635

635. JOHN PEGRAM, EMMA PEGRAM , and JOHN CONNER , stealing two waistcoats, and other articles, value 40l.; the good of Joseph Hornby Baxendale, and others, the masters of John Pegram.—2nd Count feloniously receiving the same.

MR. LILLEY conducted the Prosecution.

CHARLES CORFIELD . I am a major in the Bengal Army, and live at No. 73, Warwick-street, Pimlico—these two waistcoats are mine—they were deposited in a trunk which was left in the care of Messrs. Baxendale—I packed it, corded it, and placed it there myself, and these were in it—I think the receipt is dated 2nd March, 1854—I delivered the trunk to Brown, a carman, in Messrs. Baxendale's employ—he gave me the receipt for it, and I followed him to Prince's-street, Westminster, and saw the box delivered at Messrs. Baxendale's office—Brown had the van, and he gave me the receipt—that trunk was returned to me again on 18th Nov.—Brown gave me a bill, and I told him I would look over it and pay it—as he went down the steps I went up to my trunk, and the property was missing—I had lost these two waistcoats, and a quantity of plated ware, some plain chessmen, some carved draughtsmen, a dressing case with fittings, an Indian brooch, a native brooch, a gold cross, a pair of undress epaulettes, a great coat, a new black suit, a black waistcoat, a white waistcoat, a pair of pantaloons and a coat, a telescope, a camera lucida, and several other things which I have forgotten—these articles (produced) are mine, and were in the trunk.

WILLIAM BROWN . I am a carman, in the service of Joseph Hornby Baxendale and Co. In the beginning of March, 1854, I received from the last witness a leather trunk and two hampers—I delivered them to Pickford and Co.'s agents in Red Lion-yard, Frince's-street—they were well corded, and in good condition—I saw them stand in the office window a couple or three days, they were then shifted in the office—about Nov. I received directions from Mr. Elliott to take them back—I found them in the stable—I brushed the cobwebs and dust off them, and took them directly to Major Corfield's—he was there—I went down stairs after giving him the paper—I went away with the cart—when I got back to the yard, Major Corfield came to the office and said he had lost some things—I did not notice the boxes particularly; I put them in the cart and away I went—when Major Corfield came John Pegram was in the yard, and was near enough to hear what was said—Major Corfield said he had been robbed, and I said I knew nothing about it—he said, "I have been robbed by wholesale," or some such word as that.

JOHN ELLIOTT . I am in the employ of Joseph Hornby Baxendale and Co.; they trade under the name of Pickford's—I was in their employ in 1854, and am so now—they have premises in Red Lion-yard—the prisoner, John Pegram, was in their employ for five or six months in 1854—I think he was discharged in Dec., or the fore part of this year—he occupied a tenement in the yard—I recollect a trunk and two hampers being brought by Brown from Major Corfield—I recollect their arrival on the 2nd March—the trunk was put under the office window in a shed—it was there two or three weeks, and was then put inside the office, and remained there some few days, and the major not arriving, and not giving directions, it was put in the end of a very long stable in a spare stall—John Pegram had horses in that stable—he was horse keeper—before he left the employ the trunk was sent back by Brown—I received some information from Major Corfield about two hours afterwards—I was not present in the office when the major came back—the door of the tenement which John Pegram occupied in the yard is alongside of the door which leads into the stable—Emma Pegram lived with him on the premises—I fancy I have seen Conner in the yard.

Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. Might not these things have been

out of the office for two or three weeks? A. I think not so long as that—. I do not know that I would swear that they were not under the shed for two or three weeks—I fancy I saw Conner some months back, I should say, shortly after John Pegram came, which I believe was in June, 1854—I would not swear that I have seen Conner.

John Pegram. Q. What time was I there? I think you were there about six months—I never knew anything amiss of you—you had a good character.

COURT. Q. Is the female prisoner his wife? A. Yes.

STEPHEN STANDAGE (policeman, P 200). I went on 19th April to the house of the two Pegrams, in Ingleton-street, Brixton—I told John Pegram that we had come to take him into custody, for robbing his masters, Pick-ford and Co., and enumerated the articles to him—he said he knew nothing at all about it—I searched the house, and found some things, which turned out to be his own—on 3rd May I went to the house again, and apprehended his wife—I had taken him on 19th April, and on 3rd May I went and took the wife—I said I came to take her into custody for being concerned with her husband in robbing Messrs. Pickford of the electroplate, and wearing apparel, and other things—she said, "Very well," and that she knew nothing about it—I told her she might say anything she liked to me; I might make use of it as evidence against her, or I might not—she then said, "Conner had the things"—I said, "What things?"—she said, "The plate; and he came to our house one night, and took a bundle away, which I suppose was wearing apparel"—she said she took spoons to his house, about eight of each—I asked her whether she knew what became of the chessmen and draughtsmen—she said, "Yes; Conner had them"—she was asked whether she had ever been stopped at Smithfield station—she denied it, but afterwards she said she was—she said, "Previous to going out of the house, Conner told me, if I was stopped by the police, to say my name was Emma Johnson, which I did"—she said that on the day she was stopped at Smithfield she had a gold cross and two of the electroplate salt spoons with her—from information I received from her, I went to the house of Conner, in John's-row, St. Luke's, the next morning, about 5 o'clock—Conner came to the door—I asked him if his name was Conner—he said, "Yes"—I asked if the whole house belonged to him—he said it did—I said, "You see who I am?"—he said, "I do"—I asked him if he knew any one of the name of Pegram—he said he did—I asked him if he knew where they were, or what they were doing—he said, no, he did not—I asked if he knew in whose employ Pegram was, or who Pegram worked for—he said, "No"—I told him I had come to take him into custody for receiving some things of Pegram, well knowing them to have been stolen from the premises of Messrs. Pickford and Co.—he said, "Pooh, pooh, nonsense"—he went up stairs—I told him I should search the house—he said, "Very well;" and, on searching, I found this white waistcoat in a clothes box—I asked him how he became possessed of this—he said he bought it at Mr. Groves', he believed, with two white slops, and he gave 6s. 6d. for it—I told him I should take it away with me; the other things, the plate and wearing apparel, and chessmen and draughtsmen were named to him, which he said he knew nothing at all about—he said Mr. Groves lived in the New Cut, and he bought the waistcoat and slops about two or three years ago—on the Monday following I received this black waistcoat from a pawnbroker, in Wilderness-row, in presence of Caroline Railton.

Cross-examined. Q When you went to Conner's house, who else was there? A. A young woman that he said he was living with—no one

else—he told me he worked at Mr. Gasson's, which I believe is true—Mr. Gasson deals in marine stores, in a large way—he is a respectable man as far as I know—I found this waistcoat in a box in which was a coat and trowsers, and I think two blankets—he did not speak very accurately as to where he bought this waistcoat; he said he thought he. bought it at Groves' and gave 6s. 6d. for it—I told him I charged him with receiving electroplate and wearing apparel—I told him. I was going to take him into custody for receiving that—he said, "Pooh, pooh, nonsense" and said he knew nothing about them.

ROBERT EMMERSON (police-inspector). I was on duty at the station house, at Brixton, when Conner and Emma Pegram were there, on the morning of 4th May—I cautioned them that anything they said would be used against thorn if necessary—I then asked Emma Pegram if she knew Conner; she said, "Yes"—she then said that her husband took the things from the box, and sent her with part of them to Conner's—she took the plate she said, a number of spoons, she thought eight of each sort, and Conner tested them with something out of a bottle, and they turned coppery, and he said they were not silver—she said she did not receive any money for them, but that he had them and kept them—she said Conner came to their lodging one evening afterwards, and took away the other things—she said, "He took away a bundle which I suppose was wearing apparel, and he also had the dressing case, which was fitted with bottles, and it had a drawer at the bottom of it, and in that drawer were two brooches, one had on it the representation of a battle"—all this was said in Conner's presence, and he said he knew nothing about it, and charged her with coming to his lodging and stealing 5s. from a child's money box—this white waistcoat was there, and Conner said, "I bought that, with two slops, at Groves', in the New Cut, and paid 5s. 6d. for it.

COURT. Q. Did he say at what time he bought it? A. I think he said two or three years ago, and he said he lived at the time somewhere in the Dover-road—I am not quite sure about the time he said he bought it.

JOHN CHAPMAN (City policeman, 241). I know Emma Pegram; I received her into custody on 23rd Oct., in a pawnbroker's shop—Mr. Muncaster's shopman said in her presence, that she had offered two salt spoons in pawn—I saw them, they were electroplated, there was a crest on them—a lion, I will not be sure what else—and a gold brooch—she said her husband gave them to her, and she was going to pawn them—she gave her name as I Emma Johnson, and she lived at No. 5, John's-row, Ironmonger-row, St. Lake's, and her husband was horse keeper at Pickford's, at the City Basin Wharf—I went to the wharf and made inquiries—some one came afterwards to the station, and in consequence of what that person said, the inspector allowed her to go from the station with a cross which looked like gold, attached to a chain; she carried it wrapped in this paper.

John Pegram. Q. You say that my wife said, I worked in the City Basin? A. Yes, I went there—they said you had worked there, but had been shifted about three months; she said you gave her the spoons to pawn.

CAROLINE RAILTON . My husband lives at No. 9, Ingleton-street, Brixton. I know John Pegram and his wife—they came to lodge in my house at the latter end of Jan. last—I know this waistcoat, I saw it in their place, and pawned it for her several times—the last time I pawned it in Wilderneas-row—Emma Pegram told me to pawn it there—we were going to see Conner, but we did not go—I never saw this waistcoat worn by any one—I have seen it in her box, she told me it cost 35s.—I went with her

once to Conner's house; I heard her ask him for a sovereign—Conner went away from dinner, and he said she could not have it till he came home, and he would see what could be done—I went to Conner's shop with Emma Pegram; she sent me to ask for him to say that she wanted to speak to him—they walked away, and I did not hoar what was said—I pawned several things of Emma Pegram's own for her—and a pair of trowsers, and a dark blue coat—I never pawned any other coat but that.

Cross-examined. Q. How long did the Pegrams live with you? A. They came at the latter end of January, and were with us till Pegram was taken.

John Pegram. Q. Where did you see this waistcoat? A. In my house, in the box—I am not aware that the box was locked—I saw your wife with it.

THOMAS JAMES PAINTER . I am foreman to Mr. Groves, a tailor, at Lambeth—this white waistcoat was never made in our establishment, nor sold there—it has never been Mr. Groves's property, we never trim them in this way, and it has no private mark of ours on it, as all our articles have.

Jury. Q. Would the mark wash out? A. This has never been washed—it never was our property.

CHARLES PEGRAM . I am a cow keeper. John Pegram is my brother—he offered me a black figured waistcoat to sell—I took it home, and showed it to my wife—she said, "This is too big for you"—she rolled it up, and I never saw it afterwards—at that time my brother was employed at Pick-ford's—he told me he bought the waistcoat of a Jew—I did not notice it At all; I saw it was black figured.

ANN PEGRAM . I am the wife of the last witness. I recollect his bringing home a waistcoat; I think about Nov. last—I took a good look at it—I believe this is the same; I could not positively swear to it—it had a yellow lining, and outside waft a black silk "back—it was too large for my husband.

WILLIAM YOUNGER LAING . I keep the White Horse, in Brick-lane, St. Luke's. I have known Conner nearly two years; he is in the employ of a marine-store dealer, in a large way, who occupies premises belonging to me—during the four weeks ending 4th Dec., last year, Conner brought me these chessmen and draughtsmen, or backgammon men and boxes, to sell—I do not think he fixed a price for them; he asked me ten or a dozen times, and I refused to purchase them, having no need of them—he asked me several times, and I told him to bring them, and I would try to sell them for him—he told me he wanted 2l. for them, and he told me to go and inquire of any person in London, and if they were not worth 4l., he would give me them for nothing—I showed them to several private friends, and showed them to a pawnbroker—I, at last, gave him 30s. for them, the pawnbroker telling me that was a fair price to give for them—after some time. Conner brought me this camera lucida—J did not know what it was; I thought it was part of a mathematical instrument—I bought it, I think, for 2s.—he offered me a telescope, and told me it was a large, handsome telescope, of great power.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you know what Conner is? A. I know he lived in the neighborhood; I have known him two years—I was in the habit of seeing him sometimes a dozen times a day; he was in the service of a person who had premises of me—he left these things with me in my house for some days, to be seen by everybody—I gave him 30s. for these—I do not recollect his tolling me that they had been sent him by a friend of his to dispose of—my impression is that he bore the character of an honest, respectable young man.

MAJOR CHARLES CORFIELD re-examined. I see the word chess on the side of this box where the chessmen are; it is in my own writing—my name was also written on the top and the side, and it has evidently been planed out.

JOHN PEGRAM— GUILTY of Receiving. Aged 24.— Confined Six Month.

EMMA PEGRAM— GUILTY of Receiving. Confined Three Months.


Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

Reference Number: t18550611-636

636. THOMAS PHILLIPS and CHARLES SMITH , unlawfully conspiring together to defraud William Sears.

MR. METCALFE conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM SEARS . I am a farmer, and live at Muskit, near Christ Church, in Hampshire. On 14th March I took twenty-eight fat wethers to Ring-wood market—while there, Phillips came and presented this card to me; he said he came from London to buy sheep, lambs, and calves—I said I had a lot of wethers there, that was all I had in the market—he said, "I know a butcher that wants just such a lot, I should have no objection to buying them"—I said I should have no objection to sell—he said, "What is your price?"—I said, "53s. or 54s."—he said, "That is too much"—he went away, and came back again, and asked if I had altered my mind, and after some time we at last agreed on 48s. a piece—the whole amount was 67l. 4s.—he said, "Now I must get a man to take them to the station"—I sent my own man, as I did not intend he should get the sheep till I got the money—I kept with Phillips all the time—at last, I came to the White Hart inn, and he said, "I have got my bag here"—he went in and took his bag, which was in the bar in a chair—he took a key and unlocked his bag, and took out a cheque book, and he gave a large card to the landlady, and asked her to put that up in her room, and said he intended to attend the market regularly—he asked the landlady for a pen and ink, and wrote this cheque for 67l. 4s., and gave it me—if I had not received this cheque, I should not have allowed him to go with the sheep, certainly—I took the cheque to my banker's the next morning, and it was returned in two or three days—I then came up to London, and brought the cheque with me—I went to Three Tun-passage, Newgate market—I saw "Smith and Phillips" over the door—I went in, and saw a small poulterer's shop—I believe there were three chickens in it, that was all—I went in, and inquired for Mr. Smith, and I having made inquiries, I went to the police.

Cross-examined by MR. SLEIGH. Q. you sold these sheep for 67l. 4s.; that was the bargain between you and him? A. Yes—when that bargain was struck, I considered I had parted with the sheep, and only remained to be paid—I considered the sheep were his—I sold them to him, and all I wanted was my money.

MR. METCALFE. Q. If you had not received the cheque, you would not have parted with the sheep? A. No.

COURT. Q. You saw on the door "Smith and Co."? A. I only saw one I door—there was "Smith and Phillips" over the door.

JOHN JACOBS . I am clerk at the Nine Elms station of the South Western Railway—I was on duty there on 15th March, about 6 o'clock in the morning—the train had come in between 2 and 4 o'clock—there were twenty-eight sheep came by that train; they were received by a person who signed my book in the name of Thomas Phillips—they came from Ringwood station—the man who received them paid 1l. 4s.

REUBEN RAGGETT . I am a drover. I know Phillips; I saw him and Smith in Newgate market on 15th March; I told him there were some sheep come up that morning, and asked whether I should drive them—he and Smith were together—Smith told me to go to the station, and they would meet me there—I went, and after waiting a little while I I met them there—I saw twenty-eight sheep there, and I brought them away—Smith told me to take them to Mr. Murtree, the slaughterman, in New—I gate market—Phillips and Smith came with me some distance, about half a mile—Smith paid me for driving them.

BENJAMIN BARNES . I am a slaughterman, in the employ of Mr. Murtree. I remember twenty-eight sheep being brought by the last witness—they were slaughtered, and the carcases hung in the shop that night, and the next morning they were delivered to Mr. Smith, No. 6, Three Tun-passage, and the hides were delivered to Williams—before the sheep came, a man who does work occasionally for Smith said they were coming.

WILLIAM MERBYMAN . I am a butcher, in the employ of Rose and Potter, Newgate market Early in the morning on 16th March, Mr. Bedford came and spoke to me—I went in consequence of that to Mr. Smith—he wanted me to buy the carcases of twenty-eight sheep that he had there—I bought them at 4s. a stone; they came to 52l. 1s.—I received the twenty-eight carcases.

Cross-examined. Q. The 52l. is. was only for the carcases? A. Yes—it is usual for meat salesmen to give cheques on their bankers for the payment of money—I never knew but one instance of their giving cheques on their own houses, and that I could not swear to—I never saw Phillips—I do not know what would be the value of the skins and entrails of those sheep, I did not see them—I think the fat would be about 4s. each, and the skins about 5s. each—that might be about 14l. or 15l. more than I paid.

CHARLES WASTELL . I am clerk, in the employ of Rose and Potter. I know Smith—I remember these twenty-eight sheep coming—I paid Smith 52l. 4s., and received from him this receipt—this is the account of the weight of the sheep that Smith gave me, and on the back is, "To butchers, poulterers, farmers, game dealers, provision merchants, and others. T. Phillips and Co., commission salesmen, Newgate market, London, for meat, poultry, pork, game, butter, eggs, live stock, etc., beg to solicit consignments of the above for sale, having extensive premises in a commanding part of the market, and twenty-five years experience in the trade, feel confident that they can obtain the best market prices; assuring those who may please to favour them with their consignments that every exertion shall be made for their interests. Accounts returned the day of sale; cash paid through our bankers. Please to advise per post, with every consignment—N. B. T. Phillips and Co. beg to inform their senders and the public that theirs is the only firm of that name as meat, poultry, pork, game, and butter salesmen. Licensed to deal in game."

EBENEZER WILLIAMS . I am a skin salesman, in East-lane, Walworth. On 15th March I went to Smith in consequence of a message that he wanted to see me about some skins—I bought twenty-eight of him at 5s. 6d., each, amounting to 7l. 14s.—I gave Smith a cheque for it on my own bankers.

WILLIAM JOHN KETTLEWELL . I jam a clerk, in the employ of the London and Westminster Bank, and am agent of the bank at Wimborne—I presented this cheque for payment in Three Tun-passage, and it was dishonoured—I know the cheques of Smith, Payne, and Co.—this is like them.

Cross-examined. Q. The persons in Newgate market frequently draw cheques on themselves? A. I know one other house that does so.

CHARLES HILL . I am agent to Mr. Bryant, of Nottingham; he is the owner of the house in Three Tun-passage. In Oct. last I let it to Phillip—he told me it was to make a large milk store to supply the Crystal Palace tavern with cream—he told me he was going to put in a plate glass front, and make it very respectable—the rent at Christmas was sent by a female to my house—the second payment I made application for myself—I went to the place, and saw the name of Smith and Co.—I asked for Mr. Phillips—I saw Smith; he said, "You are come for the rent?"—I said, "Yes"—he said, "Here is the rent," and I gave him the receipt.

GEORGE BALDWIN . I am clerk in the employ of Baxendale and Co. 1 attend the Newgate market business—I saw Smith in Oct. or Nov.—he gave me a card, "T. Phillips and Co.," and told me that all goods consigned to that address were so be sent to Three Tun-passage—he said it was all the same—he signed in the delivery book for the packages that were sent there directed to T. Phillips and Co.

JOHN MOSS (City policeman, 225). I apprehended Phillips on 7th May—I took him to the station in Smithfield, and searched him—I found part of a cheque book on him, drawn on Smith and Co., Three Tun-pasage, Newgate market, some copy books, and 13l. 11s. 9d. in money—on his way from Guildhall, after being remanded, he said he received 20l. from Smith before he went into the country, and that was all the benefit he had received from the shop—when I took him into custody I told him the charge against him, and he said that Smith had received a great many things in his name, and pocketed the money—I got four books and some cancelled cheques from his wife—his day book and ledger, and some other books, were found by another officer—over the door is "Smith and Co.," and "White and Co." is outside—the shop is a small, dirty shop, for the sale of poultry and game—I saw a few birds there—I went up stairs—there was no appearance of a bank—on the first floor is a small kitchen, with two or three chairs, and a small table; and two rooms above are used for bed rooms.

Cross-examined. Q. When you took Phillips into custody you told him he was charged with having obtained twenty-eight sheep of Mr. Sears, by giving him a false cheque? A. Yes—he said, "I gave a cheque to Sears, which ought to have been paid by Smith"—we found several cards in the house relating to other parties—the house is a very small one—there is one door into the shop, and a small staircase—I was there when all those cards were found—there were a great number of cards, and on Phillips I found a great number of labels—these cards were found in Smith's desk—there were two desks—the first desk was opened by Smith—I required the key of the second desk—he objected to that, and he threw it over to Gillman—I got the key, and found this ledger in the second desk, the desk that he objected to give the key of—I found this newspaper, containing advertisements similar to what are on the bills.

GEORGE RUSSELL (City policeman). I was present with the last witness and found these things—there is no such person as White and Co.—I found a person named Bennison, and in one of the books there is an entry of 5s. paid to him—I find an entry of 22l. as Phillips's share in the transactions of the shop—on looking over the bank book I find four customers; I know them all; one is Phillips and Co.; another is White and Co.; another, Bennison; and another, Gillman—I found notices of dishonoured cheques on the file.


WHITE— GUILTY . Aged 40.

Confined Two Years.

(There were two other charges against the prisoners.)

Reference Number: t18550611-637

637. HENRY OSMOND BARNETT and JAMES BREWER , unlawfully conspiring to cheat and defraud Phoebe Bradbrook of 5s.

MR. LANGFORD conducted the Prosecution.

PHOEBE BRADBROOK . I am a widow, and live in Sugar Loaf-court, Garlic-hill. On 29th May I was in Hugging-s lane, Thames-street—my son came to me, brought the two prisoners, and told me that they came to take possession of my things, and that they wanted 5s.—I told them I would go and see if I could borrow the 5s.—I went and borrowed it—I than met these two men in Queen-street—I told them I had got the 5s., and they said, "Very well"—they showed me a paper, and said it was a warrant of distress—I owed some rent at that time; I do not exactly know what it was—I went into a public house, and there I paid the money—Barnett gave me this receipt for it—Brewer was present.

Barnett. Q. Did you not tell us it would be better for you to pay us your day's work than to lose your goods? A. No—I did, not ask you to let me get the things away—I called for a quartern of gin, and four of as drank it—I did say I would take 5s. if you would pay uas day's work, but the Lord Mayor would not allow it.

MR. LANGFORD. Q. Why was it you paid the 5s.? A. I thought it was going off my rent.

ROBERT BRADBBOOK . I live with my mother, in Sugar Loaf-court On 29th May the two prisoners came, about 12 o'clock in the day, to my mother's house—they said they wanted my mother, and said they had a warrant to distrain on the place—I told them my mother was not at home but if they would come down at 1 o'clock I would take them to my mother—they came, and I took them to my mother, at Na 7, Hugging'e-lane—I did not stop—Barnett had shown me the paper, and said their charge was 5s.—I took them to my mother, and left them there.

Barnett, Q. After I left your mother, did not you go with me to the public house, and wait till your mother name? A. Yes.

THOMAS JOHVSON . I am a broker, and live, at No. 59, Old street St. Luke's. I gave the two prisoners a warrant to execute on the goods of Mrs. Bradbrook, I think on 29th May—they returned, and told my wife they could not get in—that satisfied me—I have never spoke to them at all about the warrant.

Barnett's Defence You told me to go and make the distance; I went, and saw this young man; he said he would go and see his mother; we vent, and she said she would pay us for our day's work, which Would be better than to lose her things.

(Barnetts's statement before the Magistrate was here read, as follow: "It was done with the idea of doing the old lady good; she asked if we would abandon the premises, and take the money.")


OLD COURT.—Friday, June 15th, 1855.


Before Mr. Justice Maule and the Third Jury.

Reference Number: t18550611-638

638. JOHN VINCENT , feloniously forging and uttering an endorsement to a bill of exchange for 14l., 14s., with intent to defraud.

MESSRS. PARRY and METCALFE conducted the Prosecution.

EDWARD SALOMONS . I am a bill discounter of No. 3, Gloucester-terrace, Hoxton—I know the prisoner; he is a farrier—before 20th April, I had one transaction with him about a bill—on Friday, 20th April, he came to my office—he told me that a cab proprietor of the name of Oram owed him between 13l. and 14l., and if he was to draw a bill on him would I discount it—I told him "No, I could not, unless he got a respectable party to endorse the bill"—I gave him a form of proposal to fill up, for which he paid me 3d.—it was a proposal for a bill—I am a private bill and loan I society—I gave him the form, that he might copy a bill from that form—this is the paper I gave him—(looking at one)—it is a form of application for a bill—it has to be filled up with the names of the applicant, the acceptor, and the endorser—I have then to make inquiries, and if they an satisfactory, I get the bill and give the money—the prisoner returned the proposal filled up in this way next morning—I went to Mr. Brooker, the endorser, and made inquiry about Mr. Oram, the acceptor—on Wednesday, 25th April, the prisoner came again, and gave me die bill filled up—he said, "Here is the bill, with Mr. Oram's acceptance, and Mr. Brooker' endorsement upon it"—I had previously called at his house, and told him I had been to Mr. Brooker's house, and inquired about Mr. Oram, and Mr. Brooker's servant had told me that Mr. Oram was an honest man, and I told him I was satisfied as to the respectability of Mr. Brooker—(The bill being read, was for 14l. 14s., at three months, drawn by John Vincent on George Oram, accepted by George Oram, and endorsed by John Vincent and William Brooker.)

Cross-examined by MR. SLEIGH. Q. Mr. Brooker's name is put in on this form of proposal? A. Yes, as the proposed endorser of the bill—I called at Mr. Brooker's house—I did not see him; I saw his clerk—I aw him after I had cashed the bill, not before—when the prisoner first called upon me, I told him I should require an endorser to the bill; that was the occasion upon which this proposal was filled up—I think the body of the bill is the prisoner's writing; it was not written in my presence—Mr. Brooker's name was on the back when the prisoner brought it to me—he asked me if I was satisfied with the inquiries I had made, and I said, "Yes"—I told him I had not seen Mr. Brooker—Mr. Brooker's clerk opened the ledger, and gave me all the particulars I wanted about Mr. Oram—I did not tell him that Mr. Brooker was proposed as an endorser, because it is not right, in a commercial way, to tell a clerk that his principal is an endorser of a bill—I only asked the clerk about the respectability of Hr. Oram—I think 1l. 13s. 6d. was deducted for discounting the bill; that would be ten per cent, for three months; forty per cent per annum—I have not got the money back; it is in the hands of the police—they took it from the prisoner the same afternoon he got it—I had one other transacttion with the prisoner between two and three months ago; that was about a bill—Mr. Oram's name was not upon that bill—that bill is not paid yet; it is not due.

MR. METCALFE. Q. If you had communicated to Mr. Brooker or Mr. Oram that you came to inquire about their respectability, I suppose it would rather have defeated your object, would it not? A. It would—it is not customary to tell clerks that their principals are endorsing bills—1 made inquiry about Mr. Brooker in some other way—I did not tell the prisoner to put the name of Mr. Brooker.

MR. SLEIGH. Q. Did you not tell him that when he brought the bill

with Mr. (Drain's and Mr. Brooker's names upon it you would discount it? A. Yes, after I bad satisfied myself of their respectability.

JAMES BRANNAN (police-inspector, G). I took the prisoner into custody on 25th April, about 7 o'clock in the evening—I told him it was for I uttering a forged bill of exchange for 14l. 14s., with intent to defraud Mr. Salomons, who was present—he said, "Have you seen Mr. Brooker?" I said, "I have not"—he said, "Well, I did write Mr. Brooker's name upon it by direction of Mr. Salomons, and I have got the money in my pocket"—Mr. Salomons said, "You know I never told you to do it"—I took the prisoner to the station, searched him, and found 13l. 1s. 3d. in his possession, which I produce.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you known the prisoner for a great number of years? A. I have—I believe he has always borne an irreproachable character—he is a smith and farrier—I know Mr. Oram; he and the prisoner are neighbours.

MR. SLEIGH to MR. SALOMONS. Q. Is not this other bill you have produced a genuine bill? A. I do not think it is—I have made inquiries, and the acceptor is not to be found—I went to look for him at the place named in the bill, the same day I found out the other was a forgery—I have not been since; I have found that the endorser is right—I made no inquiries about the acceptor before I cashed the bill—I did about the endorser, and found him to be correct—I charge 2s. 6d. for inquiries.

WILLIAM BROOKER . I am a corn merchant, and live at No. 8, Willow—I walk, Shoreditch—I do not know anything of the prisoner—this endorsement is not my writing, nor authorised by me—it is not at all like my writing—I have no knowledge whatever of this bill—I never authorised the prisoner or any person to get a loan from Mr. Salomons—I know Mr. Oram.

Cross-examined. Q. You have known him for some time, I believe? A. I have—he is a very honest man—I would have cashed the bill with his acceptance to it if I had been asked—he did not tell me that he had referred to you—I have heard from my clerk that some persons called while I was ill.

JOHN ORAM . The acceptance to this bill is not my writing; I authorised the prisoner to accept it for me.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you mention Mr. Brooker's name to the prisoner? A. I did—the prisoner and I have had some money transactions—it was for me this money was required—I have known Mr. Brooker for nearly twenty years—I told the prisoner that Mr. Brooker would become security for me if he was asked the question—I said, I believed he would be answerable if he was asked—those were the words—not that he would endorse the bill—I said, I believed he would become security for me if he was asked; I meant that he would have cashed the bill—I never drew a bill myself, and never held one—I believed that Mr. Brooker would become my security as endorser of a bill, or in any other shape, if he were asked—I told the prisoner so.

MR. METCALFE. Q. You do not mean to say that you told the prisoner to forge Mr. Brooker's name? A. No, I had no wish that he should do so; I merely said if Mr. Brooker were applied to, I thought he would be security for me—this money was not intended for me to pay the prisoner money that I owed him; it was that he might buy a horse for me—he was not to have anything for doing this, he merely did it as a friend—there is an account between us; I have had no account from him for a year and a half;

he has never applied for it—I am a cab proprietor, and he shoes my horse—I have only one caby and only one horse, at present—I have been unfortunate—I wanted another horse very badly—I have had no other bill transactions; I do not know whether he has, not to my knowledge—I have not authorised him to use my name for any other—I was to pay the interest for t his money—I gave the prisoner half a crown for the inquiry money—I understood he was going to get the money by the side of Hoxton church, but I did not know the name—I did not send him there.

COURT. Q. You say you told him that Mr. Brooker would cash the bill for you? A. Yes; I said I believed if Mr. Brooker was asked the question he would do so—I had not seen Mr. Brooker myself; I did not like to ask him to do so.

MR. METCALFE, Q. Did you not in the first instance tell inspector Brannan that the prisoner had forged your acceptance? A. I told him that he wrote my name—I believe I did not say that he wrote it without my leave—when I was asked about it, I was not aware what a bill was, hardly; but I authorised him to get the money—he told me he did not require me to go with him, he could do it without me, and I said he could do so—I did not like to go to Mr. Brooker myself—I did not write my own name, because the bill was not brought to me—the prisoner said he could answer for me.

(The prisoner received a good character.)


Reference Number: t18550611-639

639. MARY ANN AGNEW , unlawfully endeavouring to conceal the birth of her child.

R. HORRY conducted Prosecution, and MR. SLEIGH the Defence.


Reference Number: t18550611-640

640. JAMES JOHN EASTGATE , feloniously forging and uttering a receipt for 1l., with intent to defraud.

MR. LILLEY conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN MARSHALL OLIVE . I am a clerk to the Provident Savings' Bank, St. Martin's-place. On 6th Jan. last the prisoner came to the office and opened an account in No. 123291—I have the deposit book—the entries are not made by me, they were made in the week subsequent to the payment; that is the usual course—the entry of the amount originally deposited is made in the signature book at the time the signature is taken—this is it—it is in the handwriting of a fellow clerk—the prisoner's writing is here—I have no means of identifying the prisoner.

JAMES HENRY EASTGATE . I am a law stationer, and live at No. 10A, Market-court, Bow-street. The prisoner is my son—I believe the signature in this book to be his riting—I never took any money for him to the savings' bank in St. Martin's-place.

MR. OLIVE (continued). I was present when the prisoner opened the account; he paid 1s.; I received it of him—I did not give him a depositor's book; it is not the custom for the cashier to give it—I passed it on to the auditor, by whom it is signed—I sent him round to receive it—I cannot say that I saw it given to him—I did not hear him answer to his name—this (produced) is a depositor's book, issued by our bank—here is an entry bearing my initial, that is put on receiving the money mentioned in the first entry—I know the handwriting of the manager whose name is to the entry—the entry of "one shilling" was made, I dare say, by the clerk who opened the account—he is not here; he is away on account of ill health—on a Saturday evening, about the beginning of March, I saw the prisoner

again; he came and presented this book, and said he had come to give notice to withdraw the money—I looked at the entry, and asked him whether the book had ever been out of his possession—he hesitated at first and then said something about his grandmother, during which time I refer-red to the ledger—I then referred him to Mr. Boodle, the secretary—neither of these books are in my writing.

Cross-examined by MR. RIBTON. Q. Did you write the first entry here, "one shilling, July 6?" A. No—the only part I wrote is my initial "o—this entry was presented to me already made, and I put my initial to it—I received the shilling from the prisoner myself, at the time the account was opened, that was on 6th Jan., 1855—the date has been altered to July, 1854—the entry was made previous to my receiving the shilling—I am sure I received the shilling from him; I have no doubt at all about it, and my cash agreed with my account at the end of the day—there are four entries now in the book, 1l., 12s., 12s., and 15s.—I saw at once it was a forgery, and not a genuine entity—the prisoner left the bank on that Saturday night, after I had spoken to the secretary—I did not see him again until he was in custody, about a month or five weeks afterwards—I had nothing to do with his apprehension.

MR. LILLEY. Q. In what state was this entry when you received the shilling? A. It was a regular entry, "6th Jan., 1855, one shilling. H. Lewis"—that is the name of the manager—when the prisoner said he came to give notice to withdraw, 1 cannot recollect whether he said how much; I rather think he said 4l.—he presented the book for the whole of the money there represented.

COURT. Q. The book now represents that the depositor had deposited different sums of money? A. Yes, amounting to 4l.—we represent that he has only deposited one shilling.

EDWARD BOODLE . I am controller and secretary of the Provident Institution, St. Martin V. place. About 5th March the prisoner was brought to me by Mr. Olive with this depositor's book—I asked the prisoner whether he was the depositor—he said he was; I asked him if the book had been in any other hands but his own—he said, "No"—I asked him if he had made all the payments himself—he said, "Yes," he had—I asked him what he considered to be his claim against the institution—he said, "4l. "—I asked him what he had come for—he said, "To give notice for the amount"—I said it was a very serious case, that I should be under the necessity of detaining him at the office to have the matter inquired into; and I wished him to recollect himself, and tell me whether he ever had sent the book by the hands of any other person—he said that he had either sent one or more sums by the hands of his father—a deposit and the book are always sent together, it would not be taken without—I then said that I would keep the hook, and that he and his father must attend before the Board on the following week—he did not attend, nor did his father—I know Mr. Lewis's handwriting is" Lewis" in the first entry is his writing—the other part is not that is Mr. Short's, a clerk, the "one shilling" and the figure 1—the entry in words is "one shilling," and in figures, 1l. 1s.—the word "pound "is inserted here after the word shilling—that is not the writing of any one in our office.

Cross-examined. Q. I suppose a great many persons come there to deposit money? A. About 2,000 a week on an average—we have from twelve to fourteen clerks—one clerk would make a great many entries in a night; each book goes through three hands—I did not see any one with the prisoner

at the time he came to give notice; I did not see any one outside—I he came into my room separately, and I did not see any one with him—I did not see a young lady with him—he merely came to give notice to withdraw the money on the following Saturday—he told me distinctly that he wished the whole sum, 4l.

STEPHEN THORNTON (police-inspector, A). On 8th May, I apprehended the prisoner—I told him he was charged with having committed several forgeries on the St. Martin's Savings' Bank, St. Martin's-lane, by depositing is in the bank, and afterwards adding several sums, to the amount of 4l. 12s.—he made no reply—I asked him if his name was James Eastgate—he said, yes, he believed it was.

JOHN MARSHALL OLIVE re-examined. The prisoner had not received this I book at the time he paid the shilling—I passed the book on to Mr. Lewis, I and after he had signed his name I put my initial to certify that the money had been received—at the time I passed it to Mr. Lewis, it had the "one shilling "entered both in words and in figures—I did not see the book afterwards, until it was presented—I do not of my own knowledge know the state I in which the book was issued; Mr. Lewis issued it—he is not here, it was I not considered necessary.


Reference Number: t18550611-641

641. JAMES JOHN EASTGATE was again indicted for feloniously I forging and uttering a receipt for 1l., a receipt for 12s., and a receipt for 15s., with intent to defraud.

MR. LILLET conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN MARSHALL OLIVE . On 6th Jan., the prisoner opened an account, No. 123291, and deposited 1., I received it; and the depositor's book ready prepared with the name and the amount received—I passed it on to Mr. Lewis, and he would pass it to the prisoner—I saw the prisoner again I on Saturday evening, 3rd March, he then produced the book to me in its present state, with these entries in it of July 7th, Nov. 9th and 19th—he and said he had come to give notice to withdraw the money—I immediately saw I that these entries were not in the handwriting of any officer in the Institution—we have no manager named Jones—I took the prisoner to Mr. Boodle, with the book, after comparing it with the ledger.

EDWARD BOODLE . On 3rd March, Mr. Olive came to me with the prisoner; this book was presented at the same time—on examining it I discovered that the entries of 1l. on 7th July; 12s. on 9th Nov.; 12s. on 19th Nov.; and 15s. in Dec, were fictitious entries; they are all forgeries—the second entry is, I think, an imitation of Mr. Lewis's writing, but it is not his; the next is in the name of Jones, and the last also; we have no manager of that name, and the other is in the name of Wills or Wells; we have no officer of that name—they are not at all like the writing of any regular I clerk—I inquired of the prisoner whether he had ever trusted this book into the hands of any other person—he said, "No"—I asked whether he had paid those sums himself—he said he had—I inquired how much he claimed of the institution; he said 4l., and he was come to give notice for that amount—I asked if he was the depositor; he said, "Yes"—I then said it would be necessary to detain him to have the matter inquired into; I begged he would recollect himself, whether he had ever sent any money by any other person—he said he had sent some by his father—I said that I would content myself by keeping the book, if he or his father would attend before the managers on the Monday—he said they would come—neither of them did.

Cross-examined. Q. Are you sure he said his father? A. Quite sure;

he said nothing about his mother or mother in law—the board of managers decided upon prosecuting within a fortnight, but he could not be found for a long time—the person who gave the book to the prisoner is not here—each deposit book goes through three hands before it is issued—the prisoner was there about ten minutes on 3rd March—it was about 8 o'clock—he did not seem to have been drinking; there were not many persons in the room.

JOHN HENRY EASTGATE . I never took any money for my son to the Sayings' Bank—I believe this name to be his writing—I do not know the handwriting of these entries.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you any clerks? A. No; I am a private hand—the prisoner is my only son—he is twenty-one years of age—there was a courtship going on between him and a young lady at this time, and had been for twelve months.

STEPHEN THORNTON . I have subpoenaed the young lady here—she tells me that she went with the prisoner to the bank on that night.

GUILTY. Aged 21.—Strongly recommended to mercy by the Jury on account of his youth and folly. Confined Six Months.

NEW COURT.—Friday, June 15th, 1855.


Before Mr. Recorder and the First Jury.

Reference Number: t18550611-642

642. LOUISA HARRISON was indicted for wilful and corrupt perjury.

MESSES. RYLAND and LOCKE conducted the Prosecution.

SAMUEL ROBERT GOODMAN . I am chief clerk at the Lord Mayor's office at the Mansion House. I produce the original information of Louisa Harrison—it was taken before Sir Robert Carden—it was first given on 13th Jan., but sworn on 22nd Jan.—the warrant was applied for on 13th Jan., by the officers, Finnis and Jarvis—on that day the evidence of the defendant was taken against a person of the name of Taylor—the officer said they knew the person—I asked the particulars of the case—I thought it was better to take the particulars down in writing—I asked, in the prisoner's presence, what it was for, and against whom—I felt a little doubt as to the mode in which the warrant should be granted—I thought it better to take the whole statement in writing, and then judge in what manner the warrant should be granted—when I asked the officer who it was for, he said the party had been described to him by the defendant, and the defendant said, "Yes; that is, she acquiesced in that—the officer said he knew a party answering her description—her evidence was then taken, and read in her presence, and in his presence—the information was taken in my own room, privately; then it was taken before the Magistrate, and read by him, and read also to the defendant, and she signed it—a warrant was not granted then—I suggested that I had a little doubt on the subject—I felt a little difficulty in administering the oath—the warrant was not granted then—the deposition as read over, in her presence, by me, and handed to Sir Robert Carden—the defendant was brought by the same officers again on the 22nd—I took the same deposition out to her, and said that on the previous occasion I felt

a great doubt in my own mind as to what was my duty; that, from information I had received, my own impression was that she was under a delusion or an error—I told her that since the day on which she had been with me before, inquiries had been made, and the result of those inquiries had confirmed the previous opinion that I had entertained, and that I did not believe there was a word of truth in the statement she then made—she was very calm and collected in her manner, and she said every word was true she had previously said that she rather expected her solicitor would come down; and just as she said that, her solicitor, Mr. Levy, came in—I then spoke to him, and handed to him the deposition—I asked him to read it over to her, and then to tell me what the result of his advice was, leaving him and her together in my room—shortly afterwards he called me in, and told me, in her presence, that she stated that the whole of it was fact, and she was quite willing and ready to swear to it—she then returned into Court with her solicitor, and she put a dry pen over her original signature, I and I administered the oath—she had signed it on the former occasion, but the oath had not been administered—the oath was, "You swear that the contents of this your information are true, and that is your name and handwriting, so help you God"—she kissed the book, and a warrant was issued on that occasion—this is the information.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLACTINE. Q. This was at the Mansion House A. Yes—I read the evidence in the former case over to her—the former case had been investigated—I think Sir Robert Carden was present then—it was before the same Alderman, and the same Court, and the same police officers—it struck me as being rather a curious case, and I directed the constable to make some inquiries—on the first occasion the defendant was large I in the family way, and I thought she might be labouring under some delusion.

(The prisoner's statement was here read, as follows: "The information of Louisa Harrison, taken on oath this 22nd day of Jan., in the year of our I Lord, 1855, before the undersigned Alderman of the City of London, and I one of Her Majesty's Justices of the Peace in and for the said City, at the Mansion House Justice room, in the said City. The said Louisa Harrison I says on her oath—I am the wife of Edward Harrison, late of No. 2, Bull I Inn-yard, Aldgate, now of No. 6, John's-place, Barron's-place, Waterloo-road, in the county of Surrey, master carpenter. On the evening of Monday, 8th Jan. instant, after dark, I went up stairs to the second floor room I of the house in which I lived to take a jug of water and a hand towel into the front bed room—I know it was after 6 o'clock, as my husband went out I at 5 minutes to 6 o'clock that evening—I left my little girl Louisa asleep on the sofa, and I had my baby under my left arm—when I went up stairs I had a candle in a candlestick in my hand—I left the judge and towel up stairs, and turned down the bed clothes—before I got to the top of the stairs I heard a knock-ing, as if some one was poking my fire—I came down stairs, and as I opened the parlour door, having the candle in my left hand, and the child under my arm, a man struck me on the nose with his fist—this was as I was opes-ing the door—I observed that he had a mask on his face—it was a black mask, and had red lips—I dragged that off his face—it was fastened with a piece of elastic, and that snapped as I pulled it, and I threw it towards the step, inside the passage—I then saw a boy who had not any mask, and the man called out, 'Here, Taylor,' or, I say, Taylor;' and the boy then made two plunges at me with something he had in his hand—it was sharp—I thought it was a knife, and it cut my gown, and cut the skin of my right

shoulder—my petticoat body was also cut at the shoulder—I ran up stairs I again, the boy followed me—I screamed all the way up—I kept the candle I alight till I got up stairs—the boy overtook me on the top of the stain, I and tried to drag me down—he seized me by the hair of my head, and pulled I my hair down—I kept on my feet, and screamed as loud as I could, and I made to the window of the second floor room; but as I went up stairs, the I window on the staircase was broken by some one from outside, because the I bits of glass flew in my face as I ran past—as soon as I went to the front window, he rushed to the window and struck me on the chest, and knocked I me down—it was with his fist, I believe—he then opened the window, and pat his foot on the box which is under the window, and then put his foot I on the ledge inside, and one foot on the spout which goes level with the window—I saw him stoop double to get out of the window, and I saw no—I thing more of him—I then fainted away, and when I came to my senses, I found Mr. Cook, the doctor, with me—I did not see anything more of the other man—I know that man by sight; it was the same man who had offered me a sovereign not to appear against the man Mallett, and I said to him that I knew him at the time I pulled the mask off—my husband went to work about five minutes to 6 o'clock, and the old lady who lived in the first floor went out about ten minutes afterwards, and I went and put the chain on the door directly she was gone—I put the chain up after my husband went out, and also after the old lady went out—I lighted the old lady out, and she undid the chain of the door, and I put it up after I had shut it—the man must have been in the room when I left it, because my husband went up stairs before he went out, and he also looked into the cellar to see that all was safe before he went out—when I got to my senses, found my husband was in the room, and he informed me that the boxes were broken open, his tool chest, and a small money box of the little girl's—he had given me the key of the money box that afternoon, and I locked it up, and put the key in my pocket; at that time there was 13s. 4d. in it, all in silver, namely, four half crowns, three shillings, and a 4d. piece—I received the 4d. piece from the change for the milk in the afternoon—when I went down stairs I found the money box had been broken, the top part was broken off, and the money was gone—a small wooden tool of my husband's was afterwards found in my presence in the top room, which had been taken from the chest—in the lower room was a chest standing upon the tool chest, and from that chest I missed a black cloth coat, like a frock coat, of my husband's—the pockets were behind, and the sleeves very wide—there was no breast pocket—it had been torn in the arm by a saw, and had been darned by me—there was a button off, which I have at home—it was off the bottom of the right side of the front of the coat—I do not know whether there was anything in the pockets—I had put the coat out for my husband to wear on the Sunday morning before, but he did not wear it, and I had put it back on that Monday morning; I also lost two gown pieces—one was a dark red Coburg, and the other was a brown ground, with a green running flower upon it, and was a de laine, and also two yards and a half of printed cotton—when I went down stairs, I saw a bundle of things which had been tied up, consisting of two of the children's hats, some of their clothes, and also an alpaca mantle—after I was in bed that night, I missed my wedding ring from off my finger—it was safe on my finger when I went up stairs with the water—it was a very thick ring—I have searched everywhere for it, but I cannot find it—a parcel of grocery was also taken away from the parlour which 1 had bought on Saturday night at Mf. Johnson's, in Whitechapel—it consisted

of three pounds of lump sugar, a quarter of a pound of tea, and one ounce of pepper, and an ounce of mustard—my husband had only one black coat, and that was the one that was lost—Signed, Louisa Harrison."1)

EMMA FERGUSON . On the 8th Jan. I was living as cook at the Bull Inn tap, at Aldgate—the tap is exactly opposite Harrison's house—between half I past 6 and 7 o'clock that evening, I was in my bed room, which is directly I opposite to Mrs. Harrison's—I heard a scream of "Murder!" and "Police!" and I heard it was the voice of Mrs. Harrison—I was standing at the window of my room, and I immediately opened the window—from that window I could command a view of Harrison's house—I saw there were a great many people at the door, breaking open the door—I know the room she occupied as a bed room—it is up two pair of stairs, the top of the home—from my window I could see the window of that room—I could not see I anybody in her room; it was dark—there was no light in the room—I saw at last the door broken open before I left the window—I continued at the I window from the time I heard the scream till the door was broken open—no person left the house in that interval—as soon as I had seen the door I broken open I went down—I went into the house and up stairs to the second I floor room—Mrs. Johnson went up with me—the defendant was in that I room, and there were the policemen and others, and Mr. Cook, the surgeon—Mrs. Harrison appeared to be fainting away—I afterwards heard her make a statement of what she said had been done to her—she made that statement in a few minutes—she appeared much excited and agitated—in consequence of something she said in that statement Mrs. Johnson and I examined her shoulder—we found a scratch on her right shoulder—it looked like the scratch of a nail or a pin—that part of her shoulder had been under her dress—it would be entirely covered by her dress—she wore a high gown; we had to undo her dress to examine her shoulder—we afterwardi examined her dress; Mrs. Johnson helped me to examine it—we did not I find any mark or cut in the dress—it was a print dress, lilac colour.

Cross-examined. Q. You were a witness on the trial on Monday 1 A. Yes; having been present on the first occasion—she had lived in the same place between the time that she first gave an alarm and the second alarm—she always said she was not well—she appeared excitable—I have bees married—I am a widow—I have one child—the prisoner was pregnant—she told me she thought it would bring on her labour—I cannot say whether she appeared fanciful; I was not with her enough to know that—I think she appeared nervous, from her manner and demeanour—she seemed much excited—with reference to the first occasion I had no doubt whatever of the genuineness of her alarm—she told me her husband was engaged in a theatre as superintendant carpenter—I have not seen the manner in which she brought up her child—she was not there long.

JURY. Q. What time elapsed between the time of your hearing the scream and the time you opened the window and saw the persons at the door? A. Not a moment—I opened the window immediately, and the persons were at the door directly, breaking the door open—there were a great number of persons in the yard—I saw no one leaving the room of the defendant—I was standing by my own window some time before I heard the scream.

COURT. Q. What light was there? A. The gas lights in the yard—the yard was well lighted—between the two transactions the defendant seemed very much excited—I had seen her several times—she was very timid after the first alarm—I had not observed anything of that before the first alarm.

THOMAS PICKMAN . I am waiter at the Ball Inn, Aldgate. On the even-ing of Monday, 8th Jan., I was standing in the Bull Inn yard, looking towards the gateway, about twenty yards from Mrs. Harrison's house—it was from half past 6 to 7 o'clock—I had been standing there about four minutes—I then heard a scream of "Murder!" "Police!"—I ran to the tap room, which is opposite Mrs. Harrison's, and the screams appeared to come from the window of the top floor of Harrison's house—a man named Romaine ran to the door of Harrison's house—he knocked twice and no one came—on that he and another man broke the door open and went in—when they went in I stood by the side of the door post; no one came out there—no one came out of the window, or from any part of the house—I stood there till the policeman came and went in and searched the house—after the house was searched I went in—the policeman came in a very few minutes indeed—I stood there a quarter of an hour before I went in—from the first moment that ray attention was drawn to that house, it was not possible for any one I to have left it without my seeing them.

Cross-examined. Q. What time was it? A. From half past 6 to twenty minutes to 7—I was here on Monday, but not examined—I went in the house on the first occasion, but I was not a witness.

COURT. Q. How many stories are there? A. Three—the second floor I window is in the front of the house—there is a little window on the staircase going up stairs—it is nearly opposite the room door—it opens to the I back of the house—it is a small window only to let in air.

DAVID ROMAINE . I am an omnibus driver, and live in Little George-street, I Minories On the evening of the 8th Jan. I was in the Bull Inn-yard; I took the omnibus there at thirty-five minutes past 6 o'clock, and left it, and was in the tap three minutes afterwards—before I got to the beer engine, I heard the scream "Murder! Police!"—I went out into the yard directly—Harrisson's house is just opposite, right in front of the tap window—I ran and knocked at the door—I looked up, and kept my eye on the front all the I time—I knocked three or four times, nobody came—some other persons had joined me by that time—I burst the door in with my foot, and I fell in with it—I did not notice how the door was fastened then, but I did afterwards—there was a small chain on the door; you could open it about half a foot—the steel thing that the chain goes on was broken, that was the way I got in—when you get in the passage there is only one room, which is on the right hand—the first thing I saw was a child's head looking over the sofa as if it had just awoke up—there was a bundle of things strewed on the floor and two little straw hats or leghorn hats on the top—I saw Pickman, and I asked him to let no one out of the house—I rushed up stairs to the top room—I heard a child screaming; that was the way I found my way to it, as I heard a child screaming at the top of the house—I got another fall—I stumbled upon the person of Mrs. Harrison, just at the top of the stairs—she was just inside the room at the top of the stairs—I saw the child that I had heard scream lying between her legs—I lifted her up, and went to the window—the window was partly opened—it was not wide enough for me to get my head out—I put my head through sideways, and lifted it up with my neck—it went rather stiff—it would not go up but a very little way—I called out for somebody to fetch a doctor—Mrs. Harrison appeared to me to be in a fainting state—I had a light; three or four persons had come in, and had brought a light with them—I searched the room, and under the bed—there was a chimney with no vent—it was papered, and I tore the paper down from there—I remained till Mr. Cook, the doctor, came—after

he came, Mrs. Harrison appeared to be better, and came to herself after some time—he sent for some brandy and water for her first—I believe I was the first that spoke to her—I found a marlin spike on the bed—I heard her say that her husband used it—I asked her, "Who did it?"—she could not give me any answer—I said to her, "Where did they go?"—I was sitting on the bed, with my back to the window, and she pointed to the window—she did not speak then—in a minute or two afterwards, she came to, and I said, "Oh, then, you do know them"—I had asked her who did it, and she did not speak, but nodded—I said, "Where did they go?" and she pointed to the window—immediately after she came to herself, I said, you "Ton I do know them?"—she spoke very faintly, and said, "I recognised one of I them; 1 knew his voice; I tore the mask off his face; it was the man that offered me the sovereign not to prosecute the other man"—I then I went down stairs to look for the mask, but I could not find any—I looked on the stairs and down stairs—she said she tore it off on the stairs—she said he came up the stairs after her.

Q. Remembering the state of the window when you went into the room, could any man have got out of it? A. I do not believe any man could I have got out—after I raised it, a man might have got out, but before I raised it it was impossible for any one to get out—in the state in which it was after I pulled my head in, a man could have got out—I had lifted it up with my head—if any one had raised that window as far as it might have I been opened, they might have got out—there was no living soul in the room when I entered it but I, and Mrs. Harrison, and the child.

Cross-examiried. Q. You say you tumbled over Mrs. Harrison; how was she lying? A. Just in the doorway—her head was against the bed, very I nearly under the bed—I do not know whether I kicked against her—she did not seem as if she was sensible of my falling over her—I took the child I away from her; it was lying between her legs—she did not seem sensible I of any danger to the child, or any injury or violence to herself.

HARRIET JOHNSON . I am the wife of James Johnson, a whip maker; I live at No. 3, Bull Inn-yard, Aldgate, next door to where Mrs. Harrison resided. On the evening of 8th Jan. I was startled by screams of I "Murder!" and "Police!"—it was between 6 and 7 o'clock—my mother lodged at Mrs. Harrison's house—on hearing those screams I ran down stairs directly, and went into the yard—there were several persons standing against the defendant's door—I saw Komaine burst the door open—before I he burst it open he was knocking first—he then put his shoulder to the door—I said he had better not break the door open—I said, "It is up itairs; the woman and her husband may be quarrelling"—he said, "While I we are waiting, the woman may be murdered," and he burst it open, and Went in—I staid outside, and no one went out of the house, or in—I took care nobody should go in or out, for fear they should rob the house—I bhould say I remained outside about half an hour—I never went into the house till it was thoroughly searched from top to bottom—I saw it at the door—the door was open—I saw persons go down into the cellar, and find the cellar door right—I went in, and went up stairs to the second floor, to Mrs. Harrison's room—I saw her sitting on the floor, leaning against Ptomaine's knee, and a piece of wood lying on the bed—my mother was not in the house; she had gone out before this—my mother's room was fastened—the door was broken open, and I went into it after I had been up stairs—I was coming down about five or ten minutes after I went in—the room was searched—there was nobody there—I saw Mrs. Harrison's dress that

evening when she came down—it was a cotton drew, I think something of lavender colour; I cannot say that I looked particularly at the dress, but I did not observe anything on it—I observed a scratch on her shoulder; it was very slight; a pin or a finger nail might have done it.

Cross-examined. Q. The only mark was this scratch? A. Yes—I do not know whether her nose was Heeding at the time; it appeared to have been bleeding; the blood was dry on the face.

HARRIET BLOWEB , I am a widow; I carry of business at a laundress. On 8th Jan., I was lodging in Mr. Harrison's—I occupied the middle floor room—on that Monday evening I went out a few minutes past 6 o'clock—I left no one in my room—I locked my room door, add took the key with me—when I came down to the street door, the chain was on the door—I said, "Hang this chain," and Mrs. Harrison came out of the ground-floor room—I took the chain down and let myself out, and I heard her put up the chain after me—I have no recollection of seeing any light; I did I not turn my head—1 saw her with the corner of my eye, bat took no particular notice of her—it was my practice to go out every Monday evening about that time, all the time I was there—I had gone out en former Men day evenings for several weeks—I told Mrs. Harrison that.

JOHN HENRY COOK . I am a surgeon I was sent for to the Bull Inn-yard that evening, between half-past 6 and 7 o'clock—I saw the defendant—when I got to the house she was sitting on the floor—there were several persons there—she seemed aware what was going on when I got there—I spoke to her; she made no reply, but she nodded assent—I observed she had blood on her upper lip—there was no cut; nothing to be seen outwardly—I ordered a little brandy and water—I bathed her face—there appeared no incised wound on her face; nothing external—the blood I saw might be occasioned by her nose bleeding—I examined her nostril—I could not perceive any wound—I wiped the blood away several times, and it bled again—it stopped bleeding in three or four minutes after I got there—this took place upstairs—she was afterwards removed downstairs she said she had been cut in the right shoulder—she pointed out the place I observed her dress; it was a high dress—it came over her shoulder—I did not observe any cut on her dress—I removed the dress and examined the shoulder I observed three scratches, just such as you may make with a pin—the blood was coagulated—the scratch was about an inch and half long, and jagged it was very superficial—there was no cut on her shoulder—I examined her dress—I said, "If you have been cut on your shoulder, of gourde there ia a corresponding cut on your gown"—I begin immediately looking for that cut and I found none—I do not think she made any remark when I said that to her—the gown was shown to me again not on the next morning but on the second morning, by Finnis the officer, in presence of the defendant—it was the same gown—I looked at the shoulder of the same gown, and then there was a out—if there had been a cut on that shoulder of the gown the first time I examined it, I certainly must have observed it—she put the gown on that second morning; this is it (producing it)—this is the out that I observed two days after—a cut made at this part of the gown would not have made any mark on the part of the shoulder where I saw the scratches—it is in a different direction to where I saw the scratches—I made her put the gown on—the out in the gown was at the back part of the shoulder—the scratch on the shoulder was downwards and forwards—the cut on the dress was at the back downwards and backwards—if an instrument were applied to it when the gown was on, it would not have been a mere

scratch; it would have been a cut—it would have made an incision in the flesh—there was no injury on the defendant's person, except the nose bleeding and these scratches, and she might have done either of them or both of them herself, most decidedly—her husband came home, and came into the room where she was—he said, in her presence, that she said before he went out, that something was going to happen that night, and in consequence of that he had searched the house thoroughly—I have seen the defendant several times—from what I have seen of her, I considered her a very self-possessed woman, a woman of strong nerve.

Cross-examined. Q. What did you intend to convey by that? A. I have visited her a great many times, and always found her perfectly reasonable in what she said, which led me to conclude that she was a woman of strong mind—it is not conclusive that great apprehension arises from a strong state of nerve—my impression is that it is so—I attended her after this second affair—I found she was a woman of strong nerve, and requiring no medical attention—I went to watch her, and see that there was nothing particular the matter with her—I did not watch the case with respect to legal proceedings, but I watched her after she had said this about the cut—the cut in the dress is behind, and the scratch is in front—she did not exhibit any apprehensions of any kind as to this story that she would not be believed—I had to her "If you have any misgivings about Mallett, it is a very horrible thing for a man to be transported; if you have any misgiving you had better communicate it to me," and she said she had no doubt about it—my notion was that she might have been mistaken in the identity of the person.

Q. Supposing there had been really this sort of attack made on her, would it be likely to act on her nervous system very materially? A. On some females it would—anything that has a great effect on the waking mind would be apt to recur at night—impressions that have been fixed on the brain become re-produced in sleep, or partial sleep, or a sort of demi-sleep—if the nose had been once cut, and bleeding had occurred, that bleeding may occur again on any excitement—on this occasion I did not discover any marks of violence on the nose—I have known of a person by terror having the nose burst out bleeding—the defendant was about four months and a half in the family way on this occasion—I was anxious to come here to convey any conclusion that I might arrive at—I went to see her, and she did not discover the slightest indisposition to talk to me, certainly not—there was no evasion whatever—there was a readiness and a determination in everything she said—her manner to me was truthful—my suspicions were roused certainly.

MR. LOCKE. Q. On the first occasion your suspicions were not at all roused? A. No—I looked at it as a mere ordinary case—now that my suspicions are roused, it throws a doubt on the whole of it—there are many different reasons why persons' noses may bleed—some persons can make their nose bleed very readily—this conversation took place after Mallett had been convicted—she had then given her evidence against him, and he had been convicted.

JURY (looking at the dress). Q. Was this pin in the dress when you saw it put on? A. I observed one pin about the same place—this pin is Dot in a position to produce the scratches—there was not the least hesitation in her having the gown put on.

COURT. Q. Is this cut on the gown in the same state as it was? A. It was more clean in the sides of it than it is now—it was about the same

length—I examined the gown when it was on—I observed this seam in it on the ridge of the shoulder—if this cut had corresponded with the wound I it would have been in front.

CHARLES FELLOWES . I am assistant to Mr. George Cording, a pawnbroker, No. 38, Aldgate. I produce a coat pawned with me on the 4th of Jan. by Mrs. Harrison—I had known her before that time as a customer—I have no doubt that this pledge was brought in by her—I knew her as a ft customer by the name of Harrison, she always gave that name—I asked her name on that occasion, and she gave the name of Harrison—she received 4s. on it—there is a rent on the left sleeve, which has been repaired—it must have been fine drawn up—there appears to have been one button put on here (pointing to the place), as if it had lost a button, and this had been put on—it has pockets behind—I did not examine these pockets at the time it was pawned—some time afterwards Jarvis, the policeman, and another person came to our shop—in consequence of what they said, I showed them the coat—they examined the pockets in my presence—they found a pair of gloves in one pocket and a pocket handkerchief in the other—I marked the gloves and the handkerchief, and returned them to the pockets, and they: are there now.

Cross-examined. Q. Was 4s. what she asked on it A. Yes—I might have lent more—about 6s. perhaps—I did not ask her address.

THOMAS BLOWES (City policeman, 616). On the evening of the 8th of Jan. I was on duty near the Bull Inn-yard—my attention was called to. No. 2, Bull Inn-yard, about twenty minutes before 7 o'clock—I saw the witness Pickman there, and in consequence of what he said I went up stairs at No. 2—I went into the top room, and saw the defendant there—she was partly lying down in Romaine's arms—I asked her whether the doctor had been sent for, and Romaine said, "Yes"—the defendant did not make any statement then, but she did afterwards to Mr. Scott—I heard a part of it—I examined a window at which she said a boy got out—it was the top window in front of the house in the room where I found her lying—she did not sapeak of the window—we asked which way he went, and she pointed to the window—I went and examined the window directly—about half an hour afterwards she said she had seen a man's face At the staircase window—I examined that window at the back—it was screwed up with four screws—tightly screwed inside—that was the only window that I saw at the back of the house—there was a small hole in it, that You might put your fist through—you could not put your body through—I do not think I could put anything more than my fist through—when the defendant came to herself she pointed to the front window, when we asked her which way the prisoners went out—we meant by prisoners the persons who had assaulted her—I believe Romaine asked her that—I examined the front window in her bed room—it was shoved up about twelve inches—I could see no marks whatever of anybody going out.

CHARLES SCOTT (City police inspector). I went to Harrison's house on the evening of the 8th of Jan., about a quarter past 7 o'clock—I found Mrs. Harrison there—after a time she made a long statement to me—I heard her examined before the Magistrate; she made a statement there to the wine effect as the statement she made to me—her husband came in, and I asked him, in her presence, what he had lost—he looked about, and said he had lost a coat, and 2l. had been taken from a child's money box which had been broken open—I was in the parlour when he came—he came in about

two minutes after Mrs. Harrison had been brought down—she was lying on the conch—she appeared then in an insensible state.

COURT. Q. Was that before she made this statement? A. It was before she made this statement, but it appeared to me as if she did not understand what she was saying while she made this statement—at the time her husband said that about losing the coat, she was on the couch, and appeared insensible—she was beginning to make this statement—I say she was insensible, because she laid down with her eyes shut—she was brought down by the doctor and another person—after she was laid on the sofa, she node the statement, but her husband came in just as she was brought down and laid on the sofa—I did not bear her say anything about the money that had been stolen.

MR. BALLAMTNE to MR. GOODMAN. Q. Did you hear the defendant attorney tell her that she need not swear to this statement, unless she was quite confident of the truth of it? A. He said she must do it entirely on her own idea.

WILLIAM JARVIS (City policeman, 25). I received instructions from my superintendent respecting this case, and on Tuesday, 9th Jan., I went with Scott and Finnis to the defendant's house, No. 2, Bull Inn-yard –—I first of all examined the' house—there are three windows in front—they look into the Bull Inn-yard, and there is one pane of glass on the stairtee—there is no other window, but that one square—there is no outlet from the house at the back but that—I got a ladder, and examined the parapet of the house in front—I observed that the dust was collected, and was very thick, I should say the thickness of a sixpence—that was about seven feet above the window sill on the second floor 4-1 should say a man could not easily get to that from the window, there were not any marks on this dust, and the slightest touch would make a very deep impression—I examined the spout; it id between No. 2 and No. 1 it is a wooden spout, which runs into a leaden one—the wooden spout return across under the window sill—I do not think it is possible that any one could have got out of that window, and got to the top of the house, without a ladder.

COURT. Q. How is the spout supported? A. The wooden one runs into the leaden one—it is supported by iron ties—I should be afraid to let a child go on it.

MR. LOCKS. Q. This window at the back was screwed? A. It was unscrewed when I went, and it was broken—it appeared it had been broken by force, to get the screws out—the wood which contains the shutter, which used to slide before it, had been unscrewed—I did measure it, but I did not book it down—Mr. Scott took the items—it was a small window, one pan of glass only—I went into the ground floor room of the house, and saw the defendant there, and another young female, and Scott and Finnis is—the defendant's husband was not there at that time—the defendant was in a very low state, lying on the sofa—Mr. Scott asked her to repeat to me what she had said to him on the previous night—it was in substance exactly the same statement that she made before the Magistrate—she stated she bad lost four half crowns, I think, three shillings, and a 4d. piece, and pointed to where the money box was—she said she had lost two dress pieces, describing them, as one a Coburg, and the other a merino—she said she bad missed her wedding ring, which was a very thick, valuable one; she missed it when she was in bed, and her husband's coat she had lost—I asked her to

describe it—she said it was a sort of shooting coat, and had a triangular rent in the left sleeve, above the elbow, which she had neatly darned up herself—I understood her to say that the rent had been torn by her husband's saw—she did not make any statement to me about a button being off—Finnis and I went to Mr. Cording 3, the pawnbroker's shop—I believe it was on Wednesday, the 10th, in the afternoon—I saw that coat there, and examined it—Mr. Fellows found the handkerchief and gloves in the pockets of it, and they were marked in my presence—on that evening I went to Mr. Harrison's—I saw the defendant and her husband—I found the defendant sitting up in a chair—I said to her, "Will you have the goodness to describe the coat and dress pieces which you say you have lost? we intend making inquiries about Petticoat-lane for them"—she said, "That is just the plaee you are likely to find them"—I said to the husband, "We generally find coats by finding a bit of paper, or anything which has been left in the pockets; do you recollect leaving anything in the coat pockets at all?"—he said, "Well, my handkerchief and gloves were in the coat pocket; but my wife says she has found the gloves since"—he described the handkerchief as an old, worn-out, faded silk handkerchief very much washed out, and the gloves were brown; but he repeated again that his wife had found the gloves—the woman then said, "The handkerchief is one with a very thick darn in it, darned with double thread; I should be sure to know it"—I do not recollect that the husband said anything about the darn—on the Saturday the defendant was at the Mansion House, and her husband. and the statement was taken down in my presence—I took the coat which I had obtained, as I have stated, and showed it to the defendant; when she saw it, she said, "That is lot my husband's coat"—she had hardly time to look at it—it was not out of my hands—I then told her to put her hand into the pocket, and she took oat the handkerchief, and said, "That is not my husband's handkerchief"—when she said that was not her husband's coat, she said her husband's I coat was larger in the sleeve, and had also got a button off on the right hand side—that was the first time she had said anything about the button to me—when she had felt in the pocket and pulled out the handkerchief I told her to put her hand in the other pocket, and she did, and pulled out the I gloves—I said, "I understood you had found your husband's gloves?" she said, "No, it turned out to be a piece of old cloth"—when she took out the gloves, she said, "These are not my husband's gloves"—this took place in. an adjoining room to the Court—her husband was not present—I then went with the coat and the defendant into the husband's presence—I produced the coat, and the husband fitted it on—he said, "It is much like my coat, but it is hardly wide enough in the sleeves, and it has a button off on the right hand side"—he said, "That is my handkerchief and these are my gloves I will swear to them"—the defendant said as loud as she could, "They are not"—I saw the husband try the coat one and, in my opinion, it fitted him beautifully—I went with the defendant in a and to Moor-lane station, and she was searched there, by her own consent, by the female searcher, to see if they could find any duplicates—she had been asked if she had any duplicates; she said she had no duplicate, and the coat was not her husband's—on getting out of the cab at No. 2, Bull Inn-yard, the husband said, "Mr. Jarvis, this is a bad job; I am too late to get my wages to-night, and I have not a penny to get my Sunday dinner"—the defendant said, "Yes, dear, we have; don't you recollect the 11s. you brought me home on Thursday night? I have only spent 4d. of it"—we found the street door locked, and she had left the key inside—when we got in I searched the

house, with the consent of the defendant and her husband—on the corner I of a bench in the parlour I found a mortice chisel, covered over with a number of Era newspapers; I fitted that chisel to the boxes which the defendant said had been broken open, and the marks on them corresponded exactly with the chisel—while this was going on a female came in with a shirt for Mr. Harrison, and the defendant immediately went to a box, opened it, and began feeling in it, and became very much agitated—I said, "Mrs. Harrison, it is by your own consent we came to search your place, and I cannot go through it unless You sit down"—she became greatly excited, and said, "I was only looking for a pair of old socks of my husband's; he has worked a hole in them; I want to give them to the woman do to mend"—I then searched the box which she had opened; I found in it an old pair of socks, and in one sock I found a bundle of rag and paper, and on opening it I found three half crowns, two shillings, two sixpences, and I one 4d. piece—I handed it over to Mr. Harrison—I examined the house down below—there is no outlet from the cellar at ail—it opens to the inside of the house.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you call the defendant's attention to the coat having been taken from the pawnbroker's? A. Yes; it was after the production of this coat that she gave her evidence—I was not present when she swore to the statement.

COURT. Q. Was this about the coat before her final examination? A. Yes, and the money found in the box was before her final examination.

COURT to MR. COOK. Q. In what state did you find her pulse? A. There was considerable power in her pulse on the last occasion—I should have expected to find her pulse more in a state of collapse—she was not in a fainting state when I got there—I ordered her brandy and water—I found I no evidence of recent fainting.

HENRY FINNIS (City-policeman). In the course of Monday evening, I went to Harrison's house—I saw the prisoner, and she made a statement to me—her husband was there when I got there, and he and I went round the house—I examined the staircase window—the opening of glass was about a foot I and a half long, and better than a foot wide; it was a sort of angular shape—I adjoining the pane of glass was a wooden panel, which was not moveable; it was screwed up with two screws—no one could have got in or out of that I window.

COURT. Q. The shutter covered the hole? A. Yes; not the glass—the glass gave light on the staircase—I desired the husband to draw the screws—he drew one, the other he could not get out; he broke it off.

COURT to WILLIAM JARVIS. Q. YOU were sent to examine the house; where does it open at the back? A. Nowhere—the window on the stain seems to open to hardly anywhere—there is the brick work under it—it is about a yard square—it is a sort of well or shaft.

JURY. Q. Did she say that she saw a face through that window? A. She did—if any one were there they must be in a very small twice, and must stoop down to look through it—I believe Finnis got through alter it was unscrewed, and went on the roof.

GUILTY. Aged 20.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury, no one having received any injury. Confined Eighteen Month.

THIRD COURT.—Friday, June 15th, 1855.


Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Seventh Jury.

Reference Number: t18550611-643

643. MARY SAMMONS and EMANUEL DURUP , unlawfully obtaining goods by false pretences.

MESSRS. PARRY and METCALFE conducted the Prosecution.

GEORGE FREDERICK FORTZER . I am in the service of Mr. John Allsup, china and glass dealer, of St. Paul's Churchyard. On 11th Feb., the prisoner, Dump, came to the shop and said that he wanted some breakfast and tea crockery and toilet ware—he gave me this card—(Read: "Henry Hammond, Alma Coffee-house, 21, New Church-court, chops, steaks, good beds," etc.)—he said, "This is my card; send it to this address, with the I bill and receipt, discount taken off, and the money shall be returned"—he I asked if I could send them about 4 o'clock I—I said, "No, because our man I is not within, but I will send them about 5 o'clock"—he said that I must I not foil, as he had taken the coffee house and intended to open that evening, I and wanted these things to open it with—I sent the goods by the porter I between 5 and 6 o'clock—he returned without the money—on Monday I evening I went to see what kind of a place it was, with the porter, and I drank tea out of some of the cups—that was merely to see whether they I were there—before we left, Mrs. Summons came in, followed by several men, through the shop into the house—on the Tuesday morning, I went and applied to her for the money—I said that I had called from Mr. Allsup for! the amount for the goods delivered on Saturday—she said that Mr. Ham-mood was not within, and I must call again—I called again and was put off for three weeks—I called again, and she told me that Mr. Hammond had not come into possession yet, as he had not had time to settle his affairs; that he had paid her a deposit, and she did not think he would be such a fool as not to come in, and it would be a good day's work for her if he forfeited the deposit—she did not say what deposit he had paid—she said that she had given him another week, and if I went on Tuesday week or Wednesday morning I should see Mr. Hammond in possession—I called on the following Tuesday and saw Mrs. Sammons; she said he had not come into possession, and that he was at Pimlico—I applied on a great many days for the money and goods—part of the goods were ultimately taken by Mr. All-sup—on 12th Feb. I went to apply—Mrs. Sammons was out; I left our porter in the house—when I returned he had taken half the goods—there were a great many other people taking their goods away also—there was a van of furniture at the corner of New Church-court—there was no appearance of Mr. Hammond coming into possession, or of anybody but Mrs. Samnions being in possession—she acted as mistress whenever I went—Dump is the man I took the order from, in the name of Hammond, but J never saw him there.

Cross-examined by MR. ROBWSON. Q. When did you see Durup again? A. Some time in March, at Guildhall—I saw with the goods because he told me to send a bill and receipt, discount taken off, and the money should returned.

MR. PARRY. Q. Did you believe the representation that he was Mr.

Hammond, keeping the coffee shop? A. That he had taken it, and was going to open it that evening—he gave me the card and I believed it to be true; if I had known it to be false I should not have parted with my goods.

GEORGE RICE . I am porter to Mr. Allsup. I was sent with this him and crockery to New Church-court, Strand—I saw Mrs. Sammons, and told her I had brought some china from Mr. Allsup for Mr. Hammond—she said, "It is quite right"—she said that the basins were all too big, and were to be returned; that Mr. Hammond was not within, and the money could not be paid—the basins were returned by a female some days afterwards—I left the goods there—I went again on the Monday, and Mrs. Sammons said that Mr. Hammond would call with a piece of oil cloth cut to the size of the washhand stand for the basins—I went there again, but did not see Mr. Hammond; Mrs. Sammons appeared to act as mistress—I went with the last witness, and found several tradesmen there taking furniture—I did not see Mrs. Sammons—I do not know what had become of her—I took the basins, and what things I could of my master's, back.

MR. GIFFARD to GEORGE FREDERICK FORTXER. Q. Does Mr. Allsup conduct this prosecution? A. Yes—I am instructed by him to attend here—I do not know whether he instructs Mr. Chamberlain—I attend here as his servant.

MR. ROBINSON. Q. Do you know of some actions being brought against some persons who were taking away goods? A. 1 do not—I have heard of an indictment against John Adams—I do not know whether he was one of I the persons taking away goods—I do not know who Mr. Allsup's attorney is—I have been with him two years and a half the last time, and was with him previously—I am his shopman.

MR. METCALFE. Q. Was one of the persons carrying away goods a gentle-man named Adams, of Leicester-square'? A. I did not know it at the time I—I heard of John Adams being indicted for a felony, I think it was—Mr. Myers was another person who had left goods there; he was indicted with Mr. Adams—I did not know the others—I was not at the Westminster Sessions, and do not know whether Mrs. Sammons appeared to prosecute-there has been no action against Mr. Allsup that I am aware of.

JOHN ALLSUP . I am a china dealer, of St. Paul's Churchyard. The goods in question were mine—my attorney in this case is Mr. Chamberlain.—he took a portion of his instructions from me—I was never indicted; it was Mr. Adams.

Cross-examined by MR. ROBNSON Q. You that you Gave a portion of the instructions to Mr. Chamberlain? A. Yes—he was employed for the others, and when my servant took a portion of the goods away he called me; I told him he was at liberty to go on to any extent he thought proper—he did not call on me to ask me to prosecute; he asked me if I had not been swindled out of some goods—I said, "Yes"—he did not ask me to allow him to prosecute—I have two or three attorneys; Mr. Parker is one, and Leach and Co., of St. Swithin's-lane—I advanced no money to Mr. Chamberlain.

MR. PARRY. Q Mr. Chamberlain called on you; had you expressed a wish to see him? A. Never—he called about the matter in question—I understood that he was acquainted with other transactions in reference to these people—I did not instruct him to prosecute—I said, "I have been swindled out of my goods, and I will do as all other tradesmen will.

JOHN STONE FRANKLIN . I live at Admiral-terrace, Vauxhall-road, and

know the prisoner. I know the Alma coffee shop; Mrs. Sammons was keeping it in Jan. and Feb. last—no person named Hammond had anything to do with it as far as I know—J was there very often; I used to fold my papers there—I have seen several cards of this description—the first time I saw any was about the latter end of Jan., in Mrs. Sammons' possession—I do not know where they came from—saw her give a card of this description to Dump—she told him to go and order some goods, and said that she would pay him half a sovereign a day, and she would say that he had taken the coffee house and paid a deposit—she told him to go and order a get of china for her, of Mr. Allsup, of St. Paul's Churchyard, and some basins and dishes for the washhand stands, and she would take them in, and represent that he had taken the house—I know no person named Hammond—I saw some china come about 5 or 6 o'clock that same evening; I was folding the papers up at the time—I also heard Mrs. Sammons tell Dump to go and order some grocery at Ald. Sidney's—6he said that an Oxford woman could always do a Londoner; that she had been through the Court for 600l., and would go through it for as many thousands; and she would either be hung at Newgate, ride in a carriage, or die in a workhouse—that was not said to me exactly, but to the parties that were there—she said that she should not go herself because if he ordered the things she would take them in, as they knew that she had been through the Court, and she did not think she would be trusted—other people were present; there was Mr. Myers—I never heard of Mr. Cruse—she sold the crockery a few days after—I wards to Mr. Simpkin's, of Tower-street, Soho, a corn dealer—I was present when he gave her 4l. for them—Mr. Allsup's men came a great many times—they came and had some coffee one day.

Gross-examined by MR. GIFFABD. Q. How many times did these conversations take place in which she told Durup to go and get goods A. Several times in about a week. I suppose Mr. Allsup's goods were mentioned in three different conversations, it may have been three different days—I cannot be sure, but I know she mentioned it twice—I heard other conversations—she told him to go and order some meat, and she would take it in; and five or six times when they wanted anything to eat, she told him to go and order it, and a party named Sparkes she has told to go and order meat as well—I do not know the people—Mr. Allsup's address was mentioned, I did not go and tell him he was going to be swindled—I understood t hat Durup did it out of kindness, and that she intended to pay for them—I did not believe that it was a swindling transaction—I thought she meant to keep the coffee shop on, and pay for them.

Q. Do you mean to say that Dump ever represented himself as Hammond? A. He took the cards—Mrs. Sammons said at Guildhall that I was the person who represented himself as Hammond, but it was proved to the contrary—the attorney was present at Guildhall—I do not believe I have ever gone by the name of Harrisson—I know Mr. Dalton, of Millbank-street, Westminster—he supplies my sister with coals—if I ordered coals of him, I ordered them in my own name—I shall not answer any question that is not appertaining to this case—I do not believe I ever did order any of him—I have ordered coals of him in my own name—on my oath I never represented myself to Mr. Dalton as Mr. Hammond—I do not know whether I should know the person again to whom I gave my order—on my oath I did not tell that person that my name was Hammond—I might have gone by another name than Franklin—I do not know what it has to do with this Case—I know these people, but have not been mixed up with them in any

fraudulent transactions—I am not bound to answer what names I have what gone in—(the COURT told the witness that he must answer)—I have gone in the name of Stone, and Villiers, and Thomas—my real name is Franklin—that was my father's name.

Q. Were you acquainted with a person named Barr, of Sheffield? A. 1 am not bound to answer any questions that criminate myself—I do not refuse to answer upon that ground, but it has nothing to do with this case—I did know a Mr. Barr, of Sheffield—very likely he and I might have been in a loan and discount office at Sheffield together; I was down there; I was clerk there—it was not a good speculation—I never saw a gentleman of the metropolitan police who came to look for me—I did not know that he was coming—I did not think it necessary when I left, to leave the address I was going to—I have been in custody in Whitecross-street.

Q. But I do not mean for debt; you have been in the custody of the law! I A. Because I am a witness in this case, they put some bad money into by pocket, and Mr. Henry, the Magistrate, saw through the case, and discharged me—I was not committed for trial and tried; I was discharged that next day; it was done to keep me out of the way, that I should not be a witness in this case, and one night I was all but killed.

Q. Were there warrants out against you in Sheffield? A. I was told that a man had made up a tale there—I was never in custody on a criminal charge; it was not substantiated—I was once at the Westminster Session; I kept a registry office at Pimlico—I took some money of a lady's maid, hot living over a coach painter's shop, the place did not suit her; I offered her 2s. back, and she would not take it, and thought it proper to give me in charge, and I went, and Judge Watkins stopped the case, and did not allow it to go to the Jury—they did not charge me with obtaining money by false pretences, it was sending her to a situation—she came back, and said that there was none, and I proved that there were three situations—they did not say that I made a false pretence—I never was in custody on a criminal charge on any other occasion—I mean to say that I never represented to any person in Mr. Dalton's employment that my name was Hammond, or to anybody.

Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. You were there when these goods were ordered? A. Yes, and I happened to be there when the goods were I sold; I did not fetch Mr. Simpkins to buy them—I fetched him to bay some pawn tickets; it was some time before the crockery came—I know Mr. Long—I went to him, and he brought Mr. Simpkins, who bought some of the crockery and a bedstead—I have been into Newgate to visit a friend—it is a month or five weeks ago—my friend was a man whom I was very sorry to see there, Durup—I had no particular conversation with him—I did not tell him that I did not wish to hurt him at all; that all the parties who employed me wanted was to convict Mrs. Sammons—nobody told me to go, I went of my own free will—I had not seen Mr. Chamberlain before I went; he did not know that I went—James Peddington, the lawyer, and Sparkes first caused me to go there—I first saw Mr. Chamberlain on the subject when they were locked up in the station house, three or six month ago—I have not seen him pretty frequently since—I have only had money from him when he paid me for my attendance at Guildhall—I am a news vender and stationer, of Marylebone-street, Regent-street, and Admiralterrace, Vauxhall-road—I get my papers from different places—I am in this coffee house four or five times a day; I have my meals there—I have had a coffee house; I have no desire to take another, and have no idea of such a

thing—I did hot take on of Mrs. Sammons—I never made her any offer for it, or paid there a farthing deposit—when Durup went to Allsup's, I did not go any part of the way with him, nor did I have anything to eat with him that day—he has dined at my place—I did not dine with him that day at Williams's in the Old Bailey—I have heard of a man named Cole, who goes about passing bad money; he is not a Mend of mine—I only know him by I seeing him at the coffee house—I should be sorry to have any transaction with him—I never, in his presence, made any bidding for that coffee house—I never boasted that I had taken it—Mrs. Sammons stole his dog once, and then he left the house—I only know Mrs. Sammons by going and haying my meals there—I often went in and talked to this dog stealer, because I had no shop then as I have now, and I was there with my papers—I have been a newsman about two years—I have no other business at present; I have dealt in horses—I do not think I went by the name of Villiers when I dealt in horses—I have advertised in that name, and in the name of Thomas—I do not feel disposed to tell you what I advertised for; it was to supply papers—it is not always usual to advertise in your own I name—I went by my own name at Sheffield when I was clerk to Mr. Bair I—perhaps I might not always do so—I cannot recollect by what other name I went.

MR. PARRY. Q. Did Mrs. Sammons know you by the name of Villiem and Thomas A. I do not think she did—the man who got the warrant out for me at Sheffield was Sparkes, a shorthand writer and legal adviser of Mrs. Sammons—Cole is the gentleman who was pitching into a policeman outside here just now; he has never been in the house since Christmas, when he left his dog.

HARRIET RUSSELL . I am a milliner, and live at No. 48, lisle-street, Leicester-square. I know the prisoners—I have seen them at the coffee I house at New Church-court—I lived there for a fortnight—Mrs. Sammons kept the house; it is a gay house—I saw Durup there once—I never knew him by the name of Hammond—I believe I was living there on 20th Jan. I—I was there in the middle of Jan.—I was not there till after the crockery came, and then Mrs. Sammons said that she had a set of china, and showed me a pattern of them—Durup was not there—she did not say how they had been obtained, but she said it came from Si Paul's Churchyard—I heard Durup say that Mrs. Sammons had given him a card, and told him to represent himself as Mr. Hammond, and she would give him 10s. 6d—she was not there when he told me that—neither of them said anything to me about what had become of it—I know that the young man frequently came for for, the money—Durup came in one night very much frightened; he said the officers were after him, and would I lend him a penny to get his whiskers shaved off—I and another young woman were there; Mrs. Sammons told him not to be frightened, and said why did not he give them a further order, and put them off for a fortnight—she said she would go round to the Falstaff after him, and would make him go and tell Mr. Allsup so—I was present several times when the parties came for the china, and she told the young man that Mr. Hammond lived over the water; and on another occasion that he had taken the coffee shop—she mentioned the name of Hammond on one or two occasions when the young man called—I have seen a great many cards like this—Mrs. Sammons was the keeper of the coffee house.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTIHE. Q. What are you? A. The wife of Robert Russell; he has left me three years, and is living in Bath—I am

allowed 6s. a week for my little boy; he has another father—I have worked for Mrs. Sammons—I know Franklin; I rent under him—I never lived with him—I get my living in a respectable way; if any one says that I do not, I should try to make them prove it—I was an unfortunate girl previous to my marriage—I was never charged with anything—I have been married ten years last May—my boy is eleven years old—I have never lived with any person of the male kind since my husband left me.

FANNY MORTIMER ATTWOOD . I was living at this coffee house on 20th Jan., and for three weeks or a month—I know the prisoners—Mrs. Sammons kept the house while I was there—other ladies lodged there—The Fairy lived there, and so did Politics; The Greek did not—I heard Mrs. Sammons tell Durup that if he would get her some china she would give him 5s., and he got the china—I did not hear her say anything about the name—I hare seen cards like this there—she told him to take one of these cards and represent himself as Mr. Hammond, and that he kept the coffee house, and he was to get as many things as he could, and she would pay him accordingly—she sold the cups, saucers, and plates in my presence, for 16s. I believe—I recollect the person coming for the money for the china, and Mrs. Sammons said that Mr. Hammond was out, and if he would call in the morning she would settle with him; and after she had sent him away she laughed and said, well, she had done him—I have heard Durup complain and say to her that if she did not pay him he would break up the whole concern—he never told me how much she had paid him, but he said that she was going to give him half a crown—he had said that he would get them in for 5s.—I am living at home now.

Cross-examined by MR. GIFFARD. Q. With your friends? A. Yes—I was in the house three weeks or a month—this happened about a week after I went—I left, I think, on 22nd Feb.—there were no people in the shop when this took place—it took place in the bar—Mrs. Sammons and me, and Franklin, and Elizabeth, were present—Elizabeth is a person who lives there—Franklin was there after that—the things were sold to a man named Simpkins—I believe he lives somewhere in the Dials—Franklin was not present when they were sold—I have also known him by the name of Villiere—I have known him about six weeks altogether—he went first by the name of Franklin, and after this by the name of Villiers—he lived in Dean-street, in the name of Villiers.

PHILIP MYERS . I am a cigar dealer, of Alfred-street, Bedford-square. I know Mrs. Sammons; she ordered cigars of me—I left them at her place in Church-court, and she never paid for them—Durup told me he had received half a crown from Mrs. Sammons to go and get some goods at Mr. Allsup's, in St. Paul's Churchyard—I went after Mrs. Sammons, and told her that it was very wrong of her not to give him more, and she said that she had paid him more than half a crown—I have seen plenty of these cards; Mrs. Sammons gave one to me—Durup said nothing about them—I had known Mrs. Sammons in Lisle-street, Soho, and she got the goods from me, and told me to call at this address for the money, and I often went there to ask for it—when Durup told me that he had got these goods from Mr. Allsup I communicated with Mr. Allsup's man.

Cross-examined by MR. RIBTON. Q. You thought half a crown was not enough for ordering the goods? A. Yes; because I thought the roguery was very grand.

ALFRED GREEN . I received a warrant to apprehend the prisoners—I went to the Alma coffee house, but did not find Mrs. Sammons—I received information,

and went with Fortzer to the Crown and Sceptre, Clare Market, but heard that she had gone out at the back door—I found two persons there named Peddington and Sparkes—about a fortnight after I got the warrant I apprehended her in Clement's-lane—Dump was brought to me by another officer, on 17th April—he said he had got the goods, but had been made the dupe of Mrs. Sammons—I afterwards told him I had heard he was to receive 10s. for getting the goods—he said that he did not receive so much.

Cross-examined by MR. GIFFARD. Q. On the way to the station did not Mrs. Sammons point out Franklin as Hammond? A. Yes; she pointed to him and said, "There is Mr. Hammond; you ought to take him into custody"—I said, "I know that his name is Franklin"—to the best of my belief she did not say, "That is the man who got the things from Mr. Allsup," but I will not be positive—I had seen Franklin several times before that—he had not given me information—I had not been to his house before that, I have been there since—I always found him living in the name of Franklin—I have seen him in two places, at Lisle-street and at the Crown and Sceptre, and also at Peddington's, in Hart-street, Covent Garden—I never knew him by any other name, and I have known him several years.

MR. PARRY to GEORGE FREDERICK FORTZER. Q. You have seen Franklin, is he the man who brought you the order, or is Durup? A. Durup.

GEORGE RICE re-examined. The basins were not returned till I went to the house, when the other people were taking the goods away, and then a female gave them to me to take out of the place.


DURUP— GUILTY . Aged 30.

Confined Two Years.

(It was staled that Durup had also been convicted of felony, and thai Mrs. Sammons had been tried and acquitted.)

OLD COURT.—Saturday, June 16th, 1855.


Before Mr. Recorder and the Second Jury.

Reference Number: t18550611-644

644. THOMAS GROVE , unlawfully obtaining of Frederick Abud and another, the sum of 20l., and an order for 42l. 5s., by false pretences.

MESSRS. BALLANTINE and POLAND conducted the Prosecution.

FREDERICK ABUD . I am a gold and silver refiner, of St. James's-street, Clerkenwell, in partnership with my brother. On Saturday afternoon, 5th May, about half past 4 o'clock, a man, whom I have not seen since, came with this assay paper, and asked me to purchase this bar (produced)—(Paper read: "May 6th, '55. Mr. Anderson, parting assay, 2 ozs., 6 dwts., 6 grs.; 7 ozs., 3 dwts., 12 grs., in 1 lb. Troy S. palladium. Stamped, Hatton-garden, London Office.")—I knew that the persons who issued this paper were assayers, and I knew the writing on the stamp by seeing it occasionally; it is Mr. Staples, clerk to Johnson and Matthew; he makes the assay for them—I weighed the bar, and just rubbed it on a stone to test it, but did not cut it—it weighed 66 ozs. 8 dwts., and I purchased it of the man for 62l. 5s.—I gave him twenty sovereigns, and a cheque for 42l. 5s.

on the London and Westminster Bank, Lothbury—that was the value of the bar, assuming that there was that amount of silver and of palladium in each pound troy—the man said that he came from Anderson, of No. 29, Skinner-street, Clerkenwell—I showed the bar to my brother in the evening when he came home, and from what he said I went to No 29, Skinner-street, Clerkenwell, and found that the person did not live there—it was Saturday evening—on Monday morning I cut the bar, and found inside a quantity of copper—it contains the cut that I then made in it—it is a mere casing of valuable metal, and copper in the centre—my brother then went to the bank to stop the cheque which I had given—this (produced) is it—I should not have given that sum for the bar unless I had believed it to be all the metal described in the assay paper.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Do you melt the bars of gold that you buy? A. Sometimes—we very seldom sell them without melting them—I believe all the dealers melt, it is the usual course in the trade—this is the corner which we cut off for the purposes of the assay—this little chip it good metal—it was chipped off afterwards by me—that does not show the copper—we never write the name of the party from whom we have metal on the assay ticket—I cannot say what other people do—it is sometimes done.

MR. POLAND. Q. DO you do it? A. No, we do not—this "Mr. Anderson, parting assay, May 6, 1855" on the assay paper, is not Mr. Staples's writing, and I do not know whose writing it is.

JOHN SPITTLE (City policeman). On the morning of 7th May, I saw Mr. William Thomas Abud; from what he told me I went to the London and Westminster Bank, Lothbury, where the witness Martin was pointed out to me—I took him into custody—he was standing at the counter where cheques are paid; at the same time this cheque for 42l. 5s. was handed to me by one of the cashiers—from what Martin told me, I went to the prisoner's house, No. 46, St. John-street, Clerkenwell—I found him there; I did not take Martin with me, I left him in the custody of Brett, another officer—I said to the prisoner, "Did you send one of your men to the London and Westminster Bank this morning with a cheque for 42l. 5s.?"—he said, "Yes"—I said, "How and when did you obtain possession of it?"—he said, "On Saturday last, in the afternoon, a man named Anderson came to my shop and purchased 5 oz. 11 dwts. and 9 grains of fine gold, and he gave me the cheque in payment"—I had the cheque with me at the time, I am not positive whether I held it in my hand at the time I put the question to him—I might, I do not remember showing it to him—I had mentioned it—I told him he must come with me to Mr. Abud's—I told him I was an officer, and that the cheque had been obtained from Mr. Abud; but I do not remember the words in which I stated it—when we got to Messrs. Abud's, I produced this second bar to him—I got it from Martin, he gave it me in the cab, on the way to Messrs. Abud's from the London and Westminster Bank—Martin was at Messrs. Abud's, and the prisoner saw him—I am not certain whether I said I had taken it from Martin, but I showed it him in Martin's presence, and said, "Does this bar belong to you?"—he said, "Yes"—I asked him whether he had any objection to its being cut; he said, "No"—the other bar that had been presented to Mr. Abud was shown him; I am not sure whether it was directly handed to him, but he had an opportunity of seeing it, and I have no doubt of his being in possession of all the particulars with respect to this bar—Mr. Abud took the bar away, and brought it to me in a few minutes afterwards, cut as it is now; it contains

copper—the prisoner said, "On Saturday afternoon, after I had sold the gold, the same man, Anderson, came to my shop and sold me this bar, he sold it to me for 4s. 10d. an ounce, and said it weighed 63 oz. 2 dwts."—I saw this second assay paper taken from Martin by Brett, at the Clerkenwell police station—I then took the prisoner into custody, and conveyed him to the station—I afterwards went to his shop—I saw Brett take this model or mould, out of a drawer in the counter—I produce some bars which I found in the prisoner's workshop, at the back of the shop; they are not silver with copper in them, they are merely metal, they are of the same size as the model—one of these bars is copper I believe, the others appear to be lead, they have not been tested.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. They are for making iron castings, are I they not? A. They may be, I do riot know what they are intended for, I only know that they fit this mould—the prisoner did not hesitate to answer any question I put to him, he answered immediately—I took Martin on the Monday morning.

FREDERICK ABUD re-examined. I gave the cheque between half-past 4 and half-past 5 o'clock on the Saturday—I will swear it was not at 4 o'clock—I believe the bankers close at 4 o'clock—you cannot get a cheque changed across the counter after four o'clock—when I am dealing with strangers, I pay either by cheque or in cash, whichever suits; if I had got the cash I should have given him the cash.

WILLIAM MARTIN . I live at No. 11, Skinner-street, Clerkenwell. I have been in the prisoner's service from Oct. last, up to the time I was taken into custody—the prisoner was a watch case maker when I first went to work for him, and afterwards a refiner—I only saw one bar at my master's, and that was on Monday morning; both these assay papers are in my writing, not the whole—"Mr. Anderson, No. 29, Skinner-street, Clerkenwell," and the quality of the silver, the quality of the parting assay, and the A and B, and the date, 6th May—I wrote them by the order of Mr. Groves—I do not know whose writing this "Mr. Anderson" is at the bottom; these figures are not mine—if any bars were purchased by the prisoner they were usually entered in books—I have seen my master's book—this is it (produced)—there is no entry of this bar, they have never been put down as bars, merely the name you buy of, and the weight—I went with one of these bars, and was taken into custody—I went with it by Mr. Groves.' direction, to sell it at Collings and Furber's, refiners, of Jewin-street, at 5s. an ounce—here is an entry of 5 oz. 11 dwts. 9 grains of fine gold in May, in Mr. Groves' writing, it is under the date of May 1st, but on the line that the weight of the gold is put down, there is no date whatever—I believe that would be in the ordinary course—the last entry is 10 oz. of fine silver, under the date of May 5th; there is also an entry of 4 oz. 18 dwts. tinder the date of May 5th—there is nothing after that.

Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Can you tell whether this entry of 5 oz. 11 dwts. 9 grains of fine gold actually refers to the 1st May or not? A. I cannot; I cannot say one way or the other—I think there was gold bought on 5th May—when I was taken into custody I gave a fall explanation.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Did you take a bar of gold to Walker's about two months ago? A. A piece of gold I did, I cannot say when that was, it may Have been six months before I was taken into custody, it may have been four or three, I cannot say; I got it from Mr. Groves, and took it by his desire.

MR. PARRY. Q. Do you remember how much you raised upon it, was it not 2l.? A. I do not know, I think it was; Mr. Walker is a pawnbroker—I think I got 2l. first, and 9l. afterwards—I cannot say whether Mr. Groves used these bars in his business, I never saw them; I had access to the back shop—what I have seen them used for, if they were used at all, was for abstracting fine silver out of acids, that is the trade of a refiner—it is put into a basin and is allowed to remain a certain time, and the silver attaches itself to this like a steel to a magnet—on Saturday, 5th May, Mr. Groves sold gold and silver—I do not know of his sending out any bar of gold—I cannot say whether or not he sold more than one lot of fine gold on the Saturday—I believe he did not buy any fine gold on the Saturday, this entry is of fine gold sold—I cannot say how much he sold, or whether it was in one or two lots; he may have sold more than one lot of fine gold on Saturday, he did not buy any.

CHARLES STAPLES . I am in the service of Johnson and Matthew, assayers and refiners, of Hatton-garden—I made this assay (looking at the paper)—it is dated the 6th, but I made it on the 4th—I do not know the reason of that—I made it, not from the bar, but from a piece which was sent to us—it is the custom to take a piece from any part you please, and send it to an assay office to be tried—I had a piece, and made the assay from that—the assay mentioned in this paper is correct—when I had made it, I put my stamp on it—I do not know who sent it—we only recognized the name of "Anderson," and the words "parting assay," which signifies that we are to give the number of ozs., dwts., and grains of fine silver in twelve ozs.—I am not sure whether it had the date "6th May" on it—I have my book here—this second paper came on the same day—it has on it "Mr. Anderson, silver assay"—I do not know whether the date was on that—I made the assay, in the usual way, on a piece of the corner which was taken off, and sent with the paper.

COURT. Q. Do you know what these things are used for; we are told that they are used to plunge into acid to precipitate silver? A. This is lead; and lead will not precipitate silver—this other one seems to be copper, and copper will precipitate silver from a nitrate solution; it may be used in the ordinary course of refining, but the silver precipitated will not be fine; there would be lead with it; and therefore refiners have another process—this other bar is a mixture of lead and copper, and there may be zinc with it—that would not be used to precipitate silver; the copper used should be as pure as possible—this other one might have been used to make this mould in.

Cross-examined. Q. Would the lead precipitate copper? A. No; nor any metal—I am at a loss to discover any use for it, except as a mould—you precipitate with iron for copper—it is used in scraps—there is no object in having it this shape.

FRANCIS JAMES WINDSOR . I am in the employment of Johnson and Matthey, assayers—on Saturday, 5th May, I gave out these two assay papers to the same person—they were both applied for together—I do not know by whom.

CHARLES BRIGHT . I live at No. 29, Skinner-street, Clerkenwell—no person named Anderson has lived there in my time—I have been there twelve months last March.

Cross-examined. Q. Are you the landlord of the house? A. Yes.

JOHN BUTEUX . I live at No. 29, Arlington-street, and work for Messrs. Gilbert and Frasi, refiners, of Golden-lane. I have been about forty-five

years in the trade—this wooden mould is used for casting ingots—they do not cast them in the wood—it is a model—it is sent to us, and we make an iron one from it.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you use a furnace? A. Yes; the iron is cast in sand; we put this in sand, make an impression from it, and then pour metal into it, and make an iron one—the mould we make is a shade less than the rim of this, because it shrinks in cooling.

MR. POLAND. Q. Do you put the ingots inside this? A. No; we have nothing to do with that (the witness put one in, and it fitted)—I should say that this could have been made from a mould made from this wooden one, allowing for the shrinking and all.

FRANCIS WOOD . I am in the service of Robert Walker, a pawnbroker of St. John-street, Clerkenwell—I know Martin quite well; he came on 17th February, and brought a bar of gold, or to represent gold; it weighed about five ounces. I advanced him 2l. on it, and afterwards 10l. 10s., making 12l. 10s.—I should not have done so if I had not believed it to be gold—I had lent Mr. Groves money on gold before, therefore asked if it was of the usual quality of Mr. Groves' gold, and he said "Yes"—I should not have advanced the money unless I had believed it to be of the same quality—when Mr. Groves was taken into custody, I took the bar to a jeweller's, and had it cut in my presence—he is not here—there was copper inside—it was redeemed after that on 9th May—I did not know that I could hold it, as it was not stolen goods—Groves' wife redeemed it—I went up, and found Groves was not at home, and it was redeemed about two hours after that—I have had no conversation with Groves about it—my shop is about five minutes walk from his house.

Cross-examined. Q. As far as you know it came from Mr. Groves? A. Yes.

WILLIAM MARTIN re-examined. When I took this bar of metal to the pawnbroker's, in Feb., I did not know that there was copper inside.

MR. PARRY. Q. AS far as you believe, do you know whether Mr. Groves knew? A. He did not know; I believe he is as ignorant as myself—I cannot say whether my master bought bars of gold; but he bought gold of all sorts, of any person who came—I believe he has bought a bar; I cannot swear it—my duty is watch-case making; I had nothing to do with this department unless my master directed me—I know sufficient of the trade to say that it is extremely common for strangers to come to sell ingots, and bars, and dust; it has been for years and years, since the great discoveries of gold—refiners buy bars like this of strangers without asking who they are.

MR. POLAND. Q. Have you ever seen Groves buy any bars of gold? A. Yes; but I cannot say whether they were similar to this; I never took that notice.

COURT to CHARLES STAPLES. Q. What is the object of the assay? A. To fix the value—they send a sample, and state the number of parts of fine gold or silver—no one would purchase bars without an assay.

MR. PARRY. Q. Did you write that ticket? A. Yes; but not the address; that has been done subsequently.

COURT to WILLIAM MARTIN. Q. Did you write this name and address of Anderson? A. No; the rest of it is in my writing, by Mr. Groves' direction—I took one to a refiner's, and had it with me at the bank—I wrote these words two or three days before that—I wrote the date, and put the 6th—the almanack we had in the shop was all figures and letters—I was

instructed to enter 63 ounces on that Saturday morning—I omitted to enter it; that was my neglect, as it was late on Saturday night—I had to go to Covent-garden with a cheque—he told me to enter a large bar of silver—he said that he had bought a bar of silver, and I had better enter it—I could tell the weight by weighing it—I had nothing to do but to weigh and enter it—I did not see the bar.

COURT to JOHN SPITTLE. Q. What time did you go to the bank? A. About 10 o'clock, and found Martin there—the bank had then been opened an hour.

COURT to FREDERICK ABUD. Q. Do you know the prisoner? A. Yes; it was not he who came.


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645. ALFRED MONTGOMERY was indicted for bigamy.

MR. PLATT conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM WAITE . I am a shoemaker, and live at No. 20, Quaker-street, Spitalfields. On 18th July, 1853, I was present at St. Philip's Church, Friar's-mount, Bethnal-green, when my daughter, Hannah Eliza Waite, was married to the prisoner—she is in court now—she has been living in Booth-street, Brick-lane, Spitalfields; I forget the name of the court—she has not been living alone—they lived together for a fortnight after their marriage; she then left him—they came together again two months afterwards, and then he left her at my residence—she has not been living with him since; it is eighteen months ago.

Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Do you know a man named Martin? A. Yes, my daughter has lived with him; not before her marriage that I am aware of—she did not have a child, to my knowledge, not while she was living at home with me—she was away for some time, but not long enough to have a child—she has not been living with Martin all the time she has been away from the prisoner; she has lived with him a good part of the time—she has not had a child while living with Martin; I swear I never knew it—I do not know Mrs. Cook, I know Mrs. Taylor—my daughter was married on a Monday—she did not leave her husband on the Saturday following; it was on the Saturday fortnight—she did not come direct to me, not for a day or two; I do not know where she was then—I do not know that she took away all her husband's money—he complained to me about it, and I went with him; but I do not know how much it was—she did not go away again and take away all his goods and furniture—she did not do so when she went to live with Martin—Martin is a carpenter and joiner; I have known him two or three years—he lives in Booth-street, I believe—I have seen my daughter in his company—I knew that the prisoner was about to be married again—his wife's relations came to me on the Wednesday previous—I did not give him into custody, and knew nothing about it; I do not know who did—the mother of the second wife came to me on the Sunday before he was married—I believe the prisoner had told his second wife his first wife's name, and that her friends lived somewhere about Quaker-street—I had nothing to do with getting up the second marriage.

ISABELLA GREEN . I am a widow; I live at No. 4, Crown and Sceptre-court, St. Luke's. On 28th May last, I was present at St. Matthew's Church, City-road, when the prisoner was married to Ann Dacey—I was considered as bridesmaid—I knew he had been previously married, but I understood his marriage did not stand legal, because of her being married in her wrong name.

ANN DACEY . I live at No. 3, Union-street, Hoxton; I am twenty-two years old; I Am living with the prisoner's father. On Monday, 28th May,

I was married to the prisoner at St. Matthew's Church, City-road—I knew from the first of his being married before, but he told me his first wife was married in her wrong name, and the marriage did not stand good, and she told him she could leave him when she thought proper; that was the reason I married him—I believed what he said.

Cross-examined. Q. He had no fortune with you? A. No—he was taken into custody as we came out of church, before we reached home—his wife gave him into custody—I have never slept with him—I have been staying at his father's since.

CHARLES DYE (policeman, N 418). The prisoner was was given into my custody on this charge the same day he was married to his second wife, about 3 o'clock in the afternoon—I produce the two certificates of marriage—they are true copies (read).

GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Six Months.

NEW COURT.—Saturday, June 16th, 1855.


Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Sixth Jury.

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646. ANDREW BURKE , stealing 12 deals, value 4l., the goods of Thomas Gardener; and JOHN PERKINS , feloniously receiving the same.

MESSRS. BALLANTCNE and TALFOURD SALTER conducted the Prosecution.

JAMES FISH . I am in the service of Mr. Thomas Gardener, of Cannon-street West, a box maker—he has a workshop in Moor-lane—I have from time to time missed deals from there—on Monday, 9th April, I missed twelve deals—I had seen them safe at half-past 5 o'clock on the Saturday evening—I put them all up together in the yard of the building, and ten of them bore my mark, a cross, and those were in front of the other deals—they were worth 7s. a piece—in consequence of information, I went with a policeman on the Monday to a court in Golden-lane—I found six deals outside, and six were in Perkins's cellar in that court—I identified them as ours.

Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Your premises, where these deals Were, are left unprotected at night? A. Yes—I had missed some deals three or four weeks before—I had missed seven six-feet ends, and five on another evening—1 only recollect those two instances—I went to Perkins's with the officer, and found six deals in the cellar, and six outside—they were lying down—I could see them easily directly I went up—I believe three or four thoroughfares all join there—I did not see any other wood about the place—I did not find some old stores—I think Perkins's is a private house—I did not see any signs of business—these deals were outside in the thoroughfare—it was about dinner time, on Monday, that I learned that they were up a court in Golden-lane—I did not go till about 6 o'clock in the evening.

WILLIAM STRANK . I live in Moor-lane, right opposite the prosecutor's premises. On Saturday, 7th April, about 10 o'clock in the evening, I saw three men go out with Mr. Gardener's truck, with a lot of deals in it; they passed my place—I recognised the truck as belonging to Mr. Gardener.

Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Do you recognise either of these men? A. I do not—I cannot recollect whether I saw Thornton.

SAMUEL EVANS (City policeman, 459). On 9th April, about 6 o'clock in the evening, I went through Long's-buildings, Whitecross-street—I saw six deals placed against No. 18—Perkins lives opposite where they were—he took one up, and was about to place it in his cellar—I asked him whether he wanted to sell them; he said, "Yes"—I said, "What do you want for them?" he said, "I gave 15s. for them, and you shall have them for 18s.; I have six more just like them in the cellar"—he then said, "I have bought them to-day"—he then went to the other five, and turned them over and said, "They are good sound yellow deals, and honestly worth 7s. a piece"—his wife then called him aside, and he then said, "I did not buy them to-day; I had them home to-day; I bought them at a sale a fortnight ago"—I left them in charge of a brother constable, and I went and got two other constables—I came back and told Perkins I was an officer, and I should take him—I went to Mr. Gardener's, and got the witness, who came and identified the deals.

Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Was Perkins at Guildhall? A. He appeared as a witness against Burke, and he was afterwards put in the dock.

MR. SALTER. Q. On the first occasion, when Perkins was discharged, was it before Burke was taken? A. Yes.

JOSEPH COMBER KNIGHT (City policeman, 437). On 9th April, I went to Perkins's house between 7 and 8 o'clock in the evening, with Mr. Gardener and Evans—we saw the deals outside—Mr. Gardener examined them, and found some were marked—I went inside and saw Perkins—1 said, "I am a police officer, and Mr. Gardener identifies these deals as stolen from his premises, what account do you give of them?" he said, "Well, I bought them at two shillings each"—I said, "Who did you buy them of?" he said, "I don't know the man at all; they were in a court in Arthur-street, Golden-lane"—I said, "How did you come to go there to buy them?"—he said, "A man named Thornton took me to see them"—(I am aware that the man he called Thornton is a man who goes by the name of Phipps)—I said his account was very unsatisfactory, and I should take him and the deals, which I did.

Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. How far is Perkins's from Mr. Gardener's? A. About three quarters of a mile—Arthur-street is about a mile from there—Perkins said he had given 2s. each for them—this was told me before Burke was in custody.

JOSEPH PHIPPS . I am a farrier, and live in Warwick-place, Whitecross-street I saw Burke on Easter Monday, about 8 o'clock in the morning—he is a costermonger, I believe; a sort of itinerant fishmonger—he said he had some pieces of deal, or quartering, or pieces of wood to sell—I told him I thought I knew a man who would buy them, who dealt in old wood, and chairs, and tables—I did not mention the name—I told him he lived in Long's-buildings—I referred to Perkins—he said he would sell them to Perkins—I went with Burke to Perkins—I heard him offer to sell Perkins the deals, and Perkins agreed to purchase them of him—I saw one shilling pass between them, to bind the bargain, and we had some gin together—I had seen Burke at Young's on the Sunday evening, the evening before this.

Cross-examined by MR. M'ENTEER. Q. On Monday morning Burke spoke to you about the deals? A. Yes—that was the first time I ever saw them—Burke spoke about them on Sunday night, but I did not see them—I believe my name is Phipps; I am sometimes called Thornton—my mother was not married—I am a farrier, and work for Mr. Edwards, in Ropemaker-street—I had left my work a week before, and I was going to my club

house that Monday morning—I heard about the deals on Sunday evening, when I went to Mr. Young's place to see a friend—Burke was there, and he said, "Do you know anybody that will buy a few jobbing pieces of wood?" or something of that, and I said I knew a man of the name of Perkins, who I thought would buy them; but I did not see them—Mr. and Mrs. Young were there, Mr. Young's sister, and Burke—I did not say anything about this conversation when I was before the Magistrate—I did not see these things on Sunday evening, and therefore I did not put that in my evidence at first—this is not the first time I have said—I said so at Guildhall on Friday; you will find it in my evidence at the last.

Q. Why did you say first that Burke met you on Monday; why did you not state that you saw him on Sunday? A. Because I did not see the deal—when I met him in the street he told me where they were—I met him accidentally; I was going to my club house in Paulstreet—I saw Burke and Perkins talking, but I did not hear the bargain—I saw the shilling that was given, and the quartern of gin—I was taken upon this, because Perkins said he bought them of a man in Golden-lane; that he did not know the man, but he was recommended to him by me—he said that he bought them of a man in Arthur-street, Golden-lane—he did not know the man, but Thornton recommended him—I was taken up and remanded—I made my best inquiries—I went to the G division, and to several places, to find the man—if Burke had not been found, I should have been honourably discharged.

Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. You knew where these deals were before you went to Perkins? A. Yes, in Arthur-street, Golden-lane—I did not help to remove them—I will swear positively I did not see a truck—I had not the least whatever to do with moving them—to the best of my recollection, I went to Perkins once before I had seen these deals—I did not go two or three times—I did not hear of the deals again till Tuesday morning, when a policeman came and told me these things were stolen—I heard nothing of what passed between Burke and Perkins—Perkins did not say that he could not buy them, but he would try to get the money—I saw Perkins give Burke one shilling, and they went and had a quartern of gin, and Burke took up the change of the shilling.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. You had a mother, had you? A. Yes; her name was Phipps—my father's name was Thornton—I sometimes am called Phipps and sometimes Thornton—I am quite sure that Burke spoke of this to me on the Sunday evening—Young and his wife and his wife's sister were present—I cannot tell whether the deals were outside at that time—I did not see them—I had known Perkins for years, and knew he was a dealer in these sort of things—I did not hear Burke say how much money Perkins gave for them.

GEORGE YOUNG . I am a costermonger, and live in Thomas's-court, Arthur-street, Golden-lane. I know Burke. On the Saturday night before Easter Sunday, when I came home, at half past 12 o'clock, from my stall, I saw some wood placed in the court where I live—on Sunday night I saw the last witness—I knew him by the name of Thornton—Burke was at my house, and as he was going down stairs I told him if he did not take the deals away, I should fetch Mr. Brannan—he made me no answer—he is father hard of hearing—I did not speak to him on Monday about them—I heard Burke ask Thornton, on Sunday night, if he knew a man who would buy any wood—Thornton said he did not know, but he would see—on Mon-day morning I went to market; when I came back, I found the deals were gone.

Cross-examined by MR. M'ENTEER. Q. What are you? A. A fish. monger and general dealer—Thornton and Burke were in my house on Sunday night—I was summoned on this charge—I have never been in trouble—I was taken to the police office at Bagnigge Wells, about a sove-reign—a person gave me a sovereign to pay for some fish—I had bad shoes—I ran to get change, and I lost the sovereign; but I went to the lady, and asked if she would take the money by instalments, but she would not—I was taken up, but was discharged—Burke is a relation of my wife—he slept in my house three weeks before Easter—I first saw the deals on Saturday night—Thornton was gone when I threatened Burke about the deals.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. About this sovereign and fish and bad shoes, did you go back to the lady directly? A. No, a day or two afterwards; I was given into custody, but was discharged—I paid one fish and 5s. down, and I have paid 9s. or 10s. of the money back—it was before the Magistrate I made the condition of paying the money back—the Magistrate said it showed honesty to go back to the lady.

ANN YOUNG . I am the wife of the last witness. I am sister-in-law of Burke, by marriage. Burke slept at our house some time before Easter—I saw the deals in the court on the Saturday night—I saw Burke in Fore-street about 10 o'clock that night—he did not say anything about the deals to me then—on the Sunday night my husband told him if he did not take the deals away, he would fetch Brannan—Burke spoke to Thornton about selling the deals, and Thornton said he thought he knew a man that would buy them—the deals were taken away by a militia man and a man in a black coat.

Cross-examined by MR. M'ENTEER. Q. Have you ever been in prison? A. Yes, twice—the first time I had six months, and the second time twelve months; it was for taking a piece of print—that is four years ago—Perkina was not present during the conversation between my husband and Burke and Thornton—I took no part in it.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. How old are you? A. Nineteen—the last time I was convicted I was about fifteen—I have been married two years, and I and my husband are gaining an honest livelihood as far as we can—I have one child.

GEORGE WEBBER . I am a general dealer, and live at No. 5, Thomas's-court In that court there is a water closet, which is common to all the inhabitants—there are five small houses—I was in that closet on Easter Monday—I saw some deals in the corner of the court, and Phipps and Perkins were looking at them—Phipps pulled the deals down on his head, while Perkins measured them with a two foot rule—I did not see Burke.

Cross-examined by MR. M'ENTEER. Q. You are positive as to the two men you saw? A. Yes.

KATE MURRAY . I am the wife of Thomas Murray—I live in Thomas-court—I recollect seeing some deals brought in that court with a truck between 11 and 12 o'clock on Saturday night—I saw them taken away on Monday morning by Perkins, and a militia man, and another man.


PERKINS*— GUILTY. AGED 59.— Confined Six Month.

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647. GEORGE FROME and JOHN WILSON unlawfully breaking with intent to enter the dwellinghouse of Francis Mendicott, with intent to steal the goods therein being.

FRANCIS MENDICOTT . I am a tobacconist, and live in Whitechapel-road. About 4 o'clock in the morning on 16th May I was knocked up by the

policeman—I came down stairs, and found the fan light over the street door forced open—there is a small window which opens, and the fastenings were forced away—I had seen it the night before, and fastened it myself about 12 o'clock—I was the last person up—I also observed some finger marks, and marks of corduroy trousers, and a mark at the bottom of the shutters something like a crowbar—I saw the prisoners in custody about half an hour afterwards at the Leman-street station—I did not lose anything, and the house had not been entered, only the fan light broken—my house is in the parish of St. Mary, Whitechapel.

ROBERT PAYNE (policeman, H 198). I was on duty at a quarter-past 3 o'clock that morning in Whitechapel-road—I saw the two prisoners and two others standing against the doorway of the last witness—I am sure the prisoners were two of those I saw—one of them was lifted up by the other three to the fan light, and the fan light was forced open—I could not distinguish which it was—I and my brother officer were about twelve yards away—we went up, and they all four ran away—I ran about 700 yards and took Wilson—at that time there were two others in front of him, and I saw one pass a jemmy to the other—when I took Wilson he said, "I will go quietly"—he walked quietly a short distance, he then became very violent, and tried to throw me—I found on him a knife and some lucifers—he was perfectly sober—he shammed drunk in the station—he had corduroy trousers on of a very small cord, like the mark on the top of the fan light—the other officer took Frome—the other two got away.

WILLIAM HARBAR (policeman, H 208.) About 3 o'clock that morning I was on duty in Whitechapel-road with the last witness—I saw the prisoners and two more in front of the prosecutor's doorway—I saw one lifted up by three, but which I could not say—when we came up, they all ran away—I caught Frome forty or fifty yards away—I observed the fan light, it was forced open—Wilson had a pair of corduroy trousers on, and I saw marks of corduroy on the top of the fan light—I found on Frome a knife and 4 1/2 d.—he said he had just come from home.

Wilson. I was drunk.

FROME— GUILTY . Aged 32.—(see page 163.)

WILSON— GUILTY . Aged 34.— Confined Twelve Months.

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648. JOHN READ alias Morris , and SAMUEL READ alias Morris , unlawfully obtaining goods of Thomas Stevens and another by false pretences.

MR. SLEIGH conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS STEVENS . I am in partnership with my brother, Frederick William Stevens; we reside at Matlock, in Derbyshire—we there carry on business as barites-manufacturers, which is an article used by colour-makers. On the 29th of March I received this letter, (looking at it); in a few days afterward this other letter was, I believe, received at our house of business—I was not at the works that day—in consequence of these letters my brother supplied a quantity of barytes—in April I came to London, and in consequence of the receipt of a third letter I went to Rose Wharf, Pritchard's-road, Hackney—I did not find the colour works of Morris Brothers, and Company—I went the next morning, and then I saw the prisoners; I saw Samuel first, and John a few minutes afterwards—I had the two last letters in my hand; I showed them to them—I told Samuel my name, and I said, "I suppose you are the persons we have been doing business with;" he said, "We are; this is my signature"—these are the letters he saw on that occasion—(read: "Rose Wharf, April 17th, 1855. Gentlemen,—We

duly received the barytes, with invoice; the first quality suits us best. we shall require five tons of the same at your earliest convenience. As the distance from the station is so considerable, we shall prefer having them as before." "March 30th. Gentlemen,—We are in receipt of yours of yesterday, and will thank you to send three tons of barytes at 4l. 10s., two ditto, at 3l. 15s., to be left till called for, as we generally like to draw our own goods by our own carts.")—In compliance with the first order, that quantity of barytes was supplied from our works—the value was 24l. 8s. I had never seen Morris Brothers, and Co.—I should not have suppllie that quantity if I had not believed there were such persons, and that they were those persons, certainly not—we believed they were carrying on the business of colour manufacturers in a large way, otherwise we would not have parted with the property—the second order we did not execute; we received it on the 18th of April, and I came up on the 1st of May—I went on the 2nd, and did not see them—I went the next morning with an officer—we were just inside the gates of Rose Wharf—I suppose that is a wharf occupied by wharfingers—I did not see the prisoners in any part of the building; they did not appear to have been on the premises, but they came in at the gate—I did not see the name of Morris Brothers, and Co. on the premises—I said I had not executed the second order till I had made inquiries, and I presented the bill—when the second brother came up, the first brother introduced him to me as his brother, his brother John, I believe—my conversation was then directed to both of them—I asked for payment of the bill; they both said something, the result was they promised to pay in a fortnight—I said my time was precious in town, I should like to be paid before I left, and after some time they said, "We will pay in a week"—I went over the premises with a view to ascertain if there were I any colour works—I saw no symptoms whatever of colour works there nor near it—I saw a heap of cinders and ashes, an old pair of rollers, and something which appeared to be like guano—I said, "You have not taken then premises, nor commenced your work, what did you do with the goods we supplied?"—they said, "We exchanged them for dry goods and colour with Mr. Morgan, of Pomeroy-street, New Cross"—I asked what reference they could give me as to their respectability, and they gave me the name of Mr. H. Cockburn, 22, Bedford-terrace, Old Ford-road—they said he was A chemist, and a friend of theirs; I said, as they had not taken those promises, I wished to know their previous residence; they said their private residence was in Church-lane, Upper Clapton—I asked for the number, they Raid there was not any number on it; but it was the sixth house down, or the sixth house from the top—I asked who had introduced us to them; they said a young man from Croydon had mentioned our names to them; they said they had only recently come to London—they did not tell me from what part of the country—I went out and made a communication to the officer, and opened my pocket book, and showed him the reference—the officer took them into custody in a few minutes afterwards—I did notes See them taken—I went back to the wharf, and they were gone; I returned and told the officer—he told me to stop there, and in a few minutes he brought them—I have been to Pomeroy-street, but was not able to find Mr. Morgan or the barytes—it is gone.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Has not the money been offered to your attorney? A. I have never heard a word about it.

RICHARD COOPER . I live in Camden-town, and am clerk to the Grand Junction Canal Company. We keep at our station a lot of barytes, belonging

to Mr. Stevens—on 5th April we ordered our man to deliver twenty casks of barytes to the prisoners.

WILLIAM HILL . I am a carman, in the service of the Grand Junction Canal Company. On 5th April I delivered to the prisoners twenty casks of barytes, at Rose-wharf—I saw John Morris—I gave him this receipt note—he brought it back to me, signed, "John Morris, for Morris, Brothers, and Co."—I delivered them on the wharf outside—I did not see any colour works; nothing of the kind—I am in the habit of delivering barytes at colour works.

JOHN PAYTON . I live at Rose-wharf, Pritchard's-road, and am an iron founder. I do not know of any colour works there—I remember twenty casks of barytes being delivered there on 5th April—they went away the next day in two vans.

JAMES WOOD . I live in the Caledonian-road, and am a brush maker. I know the defendants—they gave me their names as Read—I think I first knew them in Aug., 1853—at that time they kept a little shop in Princes-street, Caledonian-road, in the name of Read—they gave me an order, and they paid for those goods, in 1853, 3l.—they afterwards favoured me with a larger order, to the amount of 11l. 12s., and soon after they absconded from that place, and I could not see anything of them—I afterwards found the goods at an auction—I asked Samuel his Christian name—I was to make out the invoice of these goods in the name of John Read and Company.

Cross-examined. Q. What was the value of the goods you lost? A. About 5l.—I had been paid the first time—I believed them to be respectable at first—I did not know their connections to be respectable.

MR. SLEIGH. Q. When you went to one brother for the money, did he refer you to the other? A. Yes; and when I applied to the other, he said he was a minor—I recovered part of my money from the auction mart.

WILLIAM POVEY . I am in the employ of Mr. Fontaine, of Hoxton, tallow chandler. I have known John Morris Read for the last three or four years—I knew him by the name of John Read—in Mr. Fontaine's book his name is entered "John Morris Read."

COURT. Q. You say his right name is John Morris Read? A. Yes—I knew him as John Read—on some occasions his name was put down, "John Morris Read"—I never knew Samuel by any other name than Samuel Read.

----ROWE. I am traveller to Messrs. Champion and Co., vinegar makers. I have known the prisoners about two years, by the name of John and Samuel Read—I sold them goods for Messrs. Champion and Co., to the amount of from 18l. to 20l.—we did not get paid for them.

Cross-examined. Q. You knew them, did you not? A. Yes, many years—I believe they have been respectable—I think they were struggling to get on, and failed—they kept a colour shop.

MR. SLEIGH. Q. Look at these letters, are they their handwriting? A. I think they are—I have seen them both write—I should say this one is John's—(read: "Gentlemen, We will thank you to pout to us your terms for barytes; if the prices suit, we shall be able to be considerable buyers.") PETER DEVITT (policeman, N 310). On 3rd May, I accompanied Mr. Stevens to Rose-wharf, Pritchard's-road—I did not see any colour works there—in consequence of a communication made to me by Mr. Stevens, after having been on the wharf, I looked for the prisoners; Mr. Stevens said they were gone—I said, "They can't be gone this way"—I went round to the back, and saw John looking round the corner in a stooping position,

and then he and his brother both ran away; I ran, and took them into custody, and brought them back to Mr. Stevens—I said, I took them for obtaining goods, under false pretences, from Mr. Stevens, of Matlock—on searching, I found cards and papers; some on one, and some on the other—I obtained from one of them their address, No. 31, Forston-street, New North-road; the address was right—I have been to look for Church-lane, Upper Clapton; there is no such place—I did not find any chemist named Cockburn, in Bedford-terrace—I have looked after Mr. Morgan, in Pomeroy-street; I could not find any such person.

(The papers found on the prisoners were addressed to persona in different ports of the country, requesting to be supplied with the prices of the articles in which they dealt.)

THOMAS RICHARDS . I am the landlord of No. 14, Shrubland-road, Dalston—I saw one of the prisoners, who came to pay me 5s. for a week's rent, for a place under the gateway—they did not carry on anything like the business of wholesale and export ironmongers—they never carried on anything, nor pursued any business—there were some goods came on 2nd April; they were immediately taken away by themselves.



Confined Twelve Months.

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649. THOMAS SMART , stealing 1 watch, value 2l., the goods of William Young, from his person.

(The prosecutor did not appear.)



Before Mr. Recorder.

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650. ELEANOR HARNWELL , stealing, at Walthamstow, 4 towels and 4 pillow cases, value 8s, the goods of Henry Frame, her master; to which she pleaded

GUILTY. Aged 16.— Judgment respited.

(The prisoner stated that she had no parents or relatives. The prosecutrix stated that she was five weeks in her service; and that she had taken her from the West Ham Union, with a written character from the matron.)

Before Mr. Baron Parke,

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651. JONATHAN PALMER was indicted for a rape upon Emma Green.

MR. O'BRIEN conducted the prosecution; MR. PARRY the defence.


Before Mr. Justice Maule.

Reference Number: t18550611-652

652. CHARLOTTE WHITTAKER , stealing 3 sheets and other goods, value 3l. 15s., of Edward Johnson.

MR. BROWN conducted the Prosecution.

SUSANNAH ELIZABETH JOHNSON . I am the wife of Edward Johnson, a fisherman, and live at Barking—I left Barking about the latter part of April last, and came to Hackney—I was acquainted with the prisoner at that time—she lived at Barking—when I left Barking, I left with her a box containing some clothes—it was not locked, but there was a till in the box which was locked—the till contained a pair of coral drops, a brooch, some pawn tickets,

two fans, and three small pictures—I bad the key of the till—I left the articles in the box with the prisoner to send to me when I sent for them—she was to put some clean linen in the box, and send it to me—I asked her to do so, and she said she would—I sent for it in May, and received a letter from her, which I destroyed, stating that the box was to be left at the Hackney turnpike—I went there and found it—I cannot say the date—I took it home—it was locked—I unlocked it, and found all that I required except the articles stated in the indictment, viz., a looking glass, three sheets, a bolster case, a tin tea-pot, a coffee biggin, a pair of pillow cases, a bread tray, and five small trays, a shawl, a tablecloth, a pair of trowsers, two waistcoats, a silk handkerchief, a worsted frock, a coloured print shirt, a pincushion, a pair of long curtains, half a dozen women's collars, and half a yard of satin; I cannot remember the whole—they had all been in the box—I found the till locked, but missed from it the things I have mentioned before—upon missing the things, I went down to Barking, and saw the prisoner on 16th May at her house—I accused her of taking the things I have mentioned; she said she had not got them—words passed between us—a policeman was present, and he took her in custody—he had to take her away from me—she had her arms round my neck—I have since seen the articles and identified them—they are the property of my husband.

Cross-examined by MR. RIBTON. Q. How long have you known the prisoner? A. About six months; we have not been living together at Barking—she lived at one house, and I at another—I never lodged with her—I did for a short time; a night, or it might be two nights before I went to Hackney, it was not more—it might have been a week, it was not more—I was lodging with her, and she washed for me—I did not owe her any money at this time—I paid her all before I left—1 left my husband's clothes for him to pay for, when he came home; and he fetched them away, and paid for them before I came back—nothing was due to her when I left, except 2s., which I borrowed of her—I left Barking because she persuaded me to leave my home and my husband likewise—my husband was at sea at the time—I came to London by myself—I lived with a Mrs. Watts at Hackney—the prisoner did not persuade me to live there—I went to live as a single woman, and carried on my business as a dress-maker—I know Edwin Howe—he was not living with me in London (looking at a letter)—I did write that letter; but I did not know what to write, and so I wrote that—I did not leave Barking to come to London to live with Edwin Howe—he was not living with me in London; and, if required, I could bring the person I was living with—the prisoner has once pawned things for me, only once, that was just before I left Barking—I gave her two pairs of trowsers, three waistcoats, and a coat to pawn—they were my husband's clothes—we did not enjoy ourselves with the money—I took it with me to London—I was not with Howe—the prisoner persuaded me to pawn them—she said, if she was me she would take everything she could lay her hands upon, and make money of—the prisoner's husband is a fisherman, as well as mine—he was not at home at this time—I swear that was the only occasion upon which she pawned anything for mo she has not pawned for me more than twice—I cannot say what she pawned on the second occasion—it was some time before I left Barking; about a month before the other things; it was some curtains that she pawned then, they were my husband's property—he was at sea then—he remains at sea about eight weeks at a time—I have been to London before on a trip during his

absence—she got 5s. or 6s. for the curtains—I spent it—not in gin, I am not in the habit of taking it—she has only pawned for me on those two occasions—the bundle I gave her to pawn contained two pairs of trowsers, three waistcoats, and a coat, but she took out the trowsers and two waistcoats and kept them, and I afterwards found them at her house, locked up in a chest with her husband's clothes—she pledged the others, and gave me the money—she did not give me the duplicate—I charge her with stealing the things she did not pledge—when I went away I did not intend to return to my huaband—the prisoner persuaded me to leave him, because he would not let me live with her a short time before—I did not go away with Edwin Howe—I know I wrote that letter, but I wrote it because I did not knot what nonsense to say—I said it because I knew she was fond of nonsense—I did say that I had got all my things safe, that was before I opened the box—I swear that—my husband returned in May, and Mrs. Watts took me back, I asked her to do so, as I had a great wish to go—I was very uneasy to think that I had left my friends—my husband returned the day before I went back—I got back about 6 o'clock in the evening, and went to my grandma's, where my husband lives—I found him there—I told him I had gone, and who had persuaded me to go—I did not tell him anything about Edwin—Mrs. Watts was with me—I had been in Hackney about three weeks—she explained it, and he believed her—when I went in, my grandma told me that the prisoner had sent for me to take the things, or else she would put them out of doors—I asked the sergeant of police what I was to do—he said I had better wait till my husband came home, and I did so; he came in about 8 o'clock—he was very angry at first—Mrs. Watts told him the truth, and he was satisfied—he had got his things out of pawn the evening before—I do not know where he got the duplicate—he asked me where the other things were—I did not tell him that the prisoner had pawned them all—he did not make any inquiry about anything but his clothes—he asked me about the other things, and I told them that I had wanted them packed in my box and sent to me, and that the prisoner had not sent them—I then proposed to go to her house with him—that was the first time I saw her after my return—I asked her for them in my husband's presence, and she denied having them—when I found the things were not in the box, I did not know what she had kept them for—it was about 9 o'clock when I got to her house; she said she was putting her children to bed—I did not give her into custody until she had insulted me very much, and put her hands round my neck and tried to strangle me—I believe I have written more than one letter to her—I may have men. tioned Edwin in both—I left some linen behind for her to wash; she sent that safe—I told her to keep my husband's sea clothes, and to send me what I had named—I did not leave her the key of the till of the box—I did not tell her to take care of the things, and particularly some of the duplicates—there were some duplicates in a pocket-book; some of them were not nearly expiring—the police sergeant has them—I believe the prisoner was locked up all night, and I and my husband returned home for the night—I do not recollect the day of the month when I left Barking; it was in April—I came to Barking from Hackney two or three times, and went to the prisoner's house—I did not' stay there long; I returned the same night to Hackney—she did not pledge anything for me on those occasions.

MR. BROWN. Q. When was it you said that the articles were all safe? A. When I received the box, before I had opened it—I did not authorise the prisoner to open the bundle and keep the trowsers—nobody introduced

me to Mrs. Watts, who I lived with, at Hackney—I only knew her when I went there—my husband is the prosecutor in this case.

MR. RIBTON. Q. Just look at the end of that letter (handing one to the witness). A. Yes, I certainly did ask her to direct my letters in the name of Howe, but I was not living with Howe—I did not go by the name of Mrs. Howe—my letters were directed to Mrs. Howe—I might have told the prisoner on more than one occasion that Edwin sent his respects to her, but I had no meaning in it—I did not go away with him, or live with him.

HENRY MILSTEAD (police serjeant, K 12). On 16th May, about a quarter past 9 o'clock in the evening, I was sent for by the prosecutrix's husband, and went with them to the prisoner's house and apprehended her—when we got to the station, I saw she had a duplicate or something in her hand—I asked what she had got—she said "Some paper"—I took these pawn tickets from her hand—she then handed me these keys, and said, "If you take this key and look in such a drawer, you will find so and so"—I went to the house and found these articles, which she is charged with stealing—I did not find them all that night—I made a second search, at her request, after going before the magistrate next day; she handed me the key of the house, and said, "If you will look over the house, in certain places you will find the remainder of the articles;" and I did—some were looked up in boxes, two or three things were in a clothes basket, and some in a cupboard—I found the whole that she mentioned—the prosecutrix was with me when I made the second search and identified the things, and I brought them away—I went to Hackney and saw the large box—I found that one key on the bunch the prisoner handed to me, opened the till of that box—I do not know whether there was any key that would open the box.

Cross-examined. Q. Do I understand you to say, that all the articles she is charged with stealing, you found in the house? A. Except a bolster-case, a pair of pillow-cases, and a woollen frock, and those are things which the prosecutrix's husband told me that the prosecutrix had pledged herself last summer, when he was ill—the duplicates for those things were found on the prisoner—only four of these duplicates belong to the prosecutrix—all the other things were found at the prisoner's house—she was locked up all night—her husband was at sea at the time, and has not returned yet.

S. E. JOHNSON, re-examined. I left these four duplicates in the till of the box—the largest of them is for 30s., for a bed, bolster, pillows, and carpet—a man pledged those for me about three days before I left Barking—I do not know the man's name; he was living at the Bull public house; I had never seen him before—the prisoner told me he would take them for me—I was then meditating the excursion to London—I have not got the key of the till with me now, it is at home—this is the prisoner's key, not mine—I did not know that it opened the till—my husband's name is Edward.


Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

Reference Number: t18550611-653

653. HENRY ROWLEY, FRANCIS BROTHERS , and ROBERT NEALE , stealing 261bs. weight of lead, the goods of William Nash and others, fixed to a building.

WILLIAM GRAVES . On 12th May I saw the prisoner Neale between 12 and 1 o'clock at noon—he had a quantity of lead which he was in the act of placing under his coat—he was in a field adjoining the street—I followed him more than a quarter of a mile, and took him—before I took him I saw

him drop the lead—there was a person with him who is not in custody—I went up to Neale and accused him of the theft—he said he did not take it off the premises, but he was sent for it—I held him till the policeman came—I was not on the watch at the time, I saw him by accident—I saw some rubbish in a hole where it appeared the lead was concealed—Trench came up, I left her in charge of the lead, and told her to look after it—this is it.

MARGARET MUSGROVE . I live at Plaistow, in the cottage next to the Friends' Meeting House—on 12th May, between 5 and 6 o'clock in the morning, I was awoke by a noise on the roof of the meeting house, which is adjoining the cottage where I live—I looked out of the window and saw two lads, one watching, and the other with the lead in his hand—there was another, but he was not with the others—I cannot affirm that the prisoner are the same persons, but they look like them—I looked at them, and the one with the lead threw it over the fence—I examined the roof of the meeting house with Catton, and this lead was taken off the roof, and some more was raised—I saw this lead fitted to the roof, and I believe it to be the same that came from there—the meeting house belongs to William Nash and others.

SAMUEL CATTON . I am a chemist, and live in Broadway, Plaistow-between 12 and 1 o'clock on 12th May, Neale was brought to my house he said he did not steal the lead, but Rowley and Brothers asked him to go and fetch it—I went with Graves to where he saw Neale leave the lead—I saw it lying in the street, and it was brought to my place—I went with Carroll to the out-house attached to the meeting house—I spread the lead out, and found the nail holes to correspond, and the place where it lapped over.

Neale M. Q. Did I say I was sent for it? A. You said Rowley and Brothers sent you after it.

JOSEPH BENTON (policeman, K 381). I saw Neale at the station, and in consequence of that I took Rowley and Brothers into custody—I took them to the station, and they were locked in separate cells—I heard what passed between them—Brothers called to Rowley twice, and Rowley answered—Brothers said, "What are you here for?"—Rowley said, "I am here for stealing lead off the Quakers' chapel"—Brothers said, "So am I"—Brothers then said, "Have you split?"—Rowley said, "No"—Brothers then said, "If you split upon me, I shall split upon you"—the other one made answer the same—I then went and spoke to Brothers; I said, "I think you have had enough about splitting."

Rowley. You did not hear me say a word. Witness. I am sure I did. Brothers. I did not say a word.

MARY TRENCH . On that Saturday I was in the yard of my house, at Plaistow—I saw Neale drop the lead—I told my little girl to bring it to me, which she did; I laid it down by the door.

THOMAS CARROLL (policeman, K 221). I was on duty on that Saturday and in consequence of information, I went to Mr. Catton, and he gave Neale into custody, and this lead—on the way to the station, Neale said, "There is 2l. reward far this, and I will split on them"—I compared the lead with the roof, and it fitted exactly.

Neale. I did not tell you there was 2l. reward. Witness. Yes, you did.

Neale's Defence. I was at work, and was sent for the lead.




NEALE— GUILTY of Receiving. Aged 15.— Confined Three Month.


Before Russell Gurney, Esq.

Reference Number: t18550611-654

654. MARTHA MASSEY , stealing, at Greenwich, 4s. 9d.; the monies of Thomas Crossley, her master.

SUSANNAH SAUNDERS . I am housekeeper to Mr. Thomas Crossley, of Blackheath-hill—the prisoner was in his service four months. On 7th April I gave her directions to buy a pair of boots, and gave her a sovereign—she brought me back 15s. 5d., saying that she had paid 4s. 9d. for the boots.

WILLIAM BAGG . I am a boot and shoe maker, of Blackheath. On 7th April the prisoner came to my shop, and wanted a pair of boots for Mr. Crossley—she took one pair, and returned the others—she had a sovereign in her hand—two or three days afterwards I asked her to pay for them, and she said that Mr. Crossley was in town, and when he came home he would pay me the money—I have never been paid.

WILLIAM THOMAS ARTHUR (policeman). The prisoner was given into my custody—I showed her the bill and several others which she had had money for at different shops, and asked her if it was true that she had received the money from Miss Saunders—she acknowledged that she had.

SUSANNAH SAUNDERS re-examined., The money that I gave to her was Mr. Thomas Crossley's.

GUILTY .* Confined Six Months.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

Reference Number: t18550611-655

655. ELLEN BRIDE , stealing 1 hearth-rug, value 1l.; the goods of the South Eastern Railway Company.

MR. ROBINSON conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS SAUNDERS . I live at No. 3, Joseph-street, Woolwich, and am porter at the dockyard station of the South Eastern Railway. On the evening of 5th May the prisoner came into the pay office with another female; the bell then rang announcing the arrival of a train, upon which I locked the outer door, so that nobody could come into the pay office, and went down stairs on to the platform—there is a gentlemen's room on the further side of the pay office, in which there was a hearth rug, in front of the fireplace, four minutes before I went down—I only left the booking clerk there, and he was shut in the telegraph office—the prisoner was then looking out of the window—I remained about a minute and a half on the platform, and as soon as the train had gone, I walked directly to the door which I had before locked, and found the prisoner there with her hand on the brass knob—she was locked in—she could get on to the platform, but not into the street—I asked her to oblige me by getting on one side, and I would unlock the door—she moved, and as she did so this hearth rug (produced) dropped down on its end—it was folded up as it is now, but it might have got bigger in its fall—when it dropped she said, "Oh, Lord!" and I said, "Well, it is"—I opened the door, and she went out—I then went into the gentlemen's waiting room, and missed the hearth rug—I spoke to the station master, and then went after the prisoner; she had got about sixty yards, and was in front of No. 10, in the terrace—I called her back—she said, "Are my friends not gone?"—I said, "You must come back"—she asked me a second time, and I said, "You must come and see"—I took her back, and the station master asked her what she knew about it—she said

she knew nothing at all about it—I said, "You appear quite ignorant of it now, but you would not do it if you were in your proper place"—she threatened to fetch her husband to give us a good hiding—the station master ordered her away, and ordered me to put her out of the office—I led her out very gently, and when she got out she tore the plaits of my shirt, and caught up some stones and threw at me—she was given into custody.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Where could this rug have been concealed by a woman of that size, it is almost as tall as she is? A. I did not notice it, because she was in a very small corner, about eighteen inches wide—we had lost a rug before—I was a policeman once—the station master, after hearing the matter, told me to put her out—I did not give her a shove on the back, and make her very angry—she was angry before she went out; she did not say, "You good for nothing fellow, did you call me back to ask me such questions as this?"—I did not say that she did—I did not call her a d—thief—her husband is employed in the Arsenal, I believe—it was the station master who gave her in charge after she had thrown something at me—it was not a handful of sand, but a handful of stones—I do not know whether she was locked up all that night; I think she was—I did not go to her house, and rummage all the place about—she was taken before a Magistrate next morning—her husband became responsible for her appearance, and it was adjourned for a week—she appeared then, and it was adjourned a third time, on account of my having my ankle put out of joint—she has been here every day this week waiting to take her trial.

MR. ROBINSON. Q. Are you certain that, four minutes before you say the rug dropped, you saw it safe by the fireplace? A. Yes; I am quite clear I saw it drop from her—it must have been under her arm, and if she had gone out with it I should not have noticed it—I do not know how the other one went.

JAMES WESTBROOK (policeman). I received charge of the prisoner in the station room—she was a little the worse for drink—she said that she would bring her husband, and give Saunders a good hiding, for he had told a great falsehood against her.

Cross-examined. Q. Was she very angry and excited? A. She WAS excited with drink—I went and rummaged her house about, though the rug was safe at the railway—I did not turn the children out of their beds—I did my duty.

MR. ROBINSON. Q. IS it your duty to search the houses of persons in custody? A. Yes—the station master had told me that another hearth rug was missing.

(The prisoner received a good character.)


Before Mr. Recorder.

Reference Number: t18550611-656

656. HANNAH MEDCALF , stealing 2 pairs of boots, value 11s.; the goods of George Stark.

MR. RYLAND conducted the Prosecution.

ELIZABETH STARK . I am the wife of George Stark, and keep a boot and shoe shop, at Deptford. I know the prisoner—she first came to my shop one evening at the latter end of April, miserably clad, and asked me to take something, as she was very much in want of a pair of boots—she came on Wednesday, 5th May, and I had a good deal of conversation with her about letting her have some boots in exchange for some articles of her own, instead of money—my son showed her some boots—she did not purchase any—she proposed to sell me various articles out of her house, such as trays and

I candlesticks, and different oddments that she brought into my shop—I told her I did not want anything, and she went away, without buying any boots—I at last agreed to take a piece of floor cloth—I missed two pain of boots on the following Saturday morning—I have since seen one of those pairs of boots at the police court—I had never sold them to the prisoner—she came again on Saturday, 12th May, and I let her have a second pair of shoes, in exchange for some more articles—I had previously let her have one pair of kid boots and 3s., in exchange for some—she came again on Tuesday, the 15th, and asked me to buy some little books—I declined doing so, as they were not modern—I turned into the parlour, to get a book to show her, and as I returned I found her on her knees, in the act of stealing a pair of boots—she took them from off a rail, and put them under her arm, under her shawl—I was so agitated at first I did not know what to say—at last I asked if that was anything to sell that she had under her shawl—she said, "No"—after a few minutes, I asked her if she was in want of those boots I had seen her turning over—she again turned round and stooped to the same boots, turned them over, and said she was in want of a pair of common boots—she then wished to be shown some better ones; and my son began to take some down, but I would not allow any to be moved; I told my son to put everything up—she then asked me if I would purchase those books for 6d.—I told her, no, I would have nothing to do with her books, nor anything she brought—she had a basket with her, and produced some books from the basket; but on my saying that, she put them in again, and was going away—when she got to the mat, some eight feet from where she stole the boots, I stood in front of her, and said, "It is a very hard case for me, ma'am, but you have a pair of my boots under your shawl"—she said, "Yes, I have"—I lifted her shawl, and drew the boots out by the string—they were a pair of my boots—I said, "This is not the first You have taken from me"—she then said the boots were her own property; that she had purchased them down the Broadway—I said, "You cruel woman, here is my child's handwriting on the boots"—these (produced) are the boots, and here is my son's writing on the sole—I shut the door, and sent for a policeman—she became very violent; I was compelled to call the servant in for protection—about 8 o'clock that evening the policeman brought me some other boots and shoes-; among them, one of the two pairs that I had lost ten days previously—I know them by an alteration which I made in them myself.

Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. She was backwards and for wards at your house very often, was she not? A. Yes; bringing a number of articles of all sorts for me to look at—I went to her place once, and my son went once; my husband went with me—I exchanged a pair of kid boots and 3s. with her for a piece of floor cloth and a small bread basket and waiter—I never knew that she had a husband, she was a stranger to me—I did not know that she had a husband until I was at the police court; I do not know what he is—the boots I let her have were 9s. 6d. ones, and the shoes 4s. 6d.—I let her have the shoes and 1s. for half a dozen knives, some forks, and a bed room candlestick—she pressed me very much to buy these oddments—I did not want them, but she really walked the shop and begged me to do it—I did not tell her to bring the books for me to look at—I went with my husband to her house, and I saw them there, and we refused them then, but she brought them—I thought she was in great dis-tress, that was why I took the things—she brought two bread baskets, I did not take both, I did not want either, I kept one—it was not a good bargain

—when I first told her she had got a pair of my boots, she said, "Yes, I have"—then she said she had bought them in the Broadway, and then she offered to pay me handsomely to let her go—I do not know whether she is a respectable woman, I have no ill feeling towards her, I am very sorry to be placed here to-day—I never sold her any boots but those I have men tioned—she lived at No. 23, Francis-street, New-town, Deptford; it is a small house—they are working people living there; I know nothing of the house, I was not in it ten minutes—everything was packed in hampers and baskets, and tied up in boxes; they were going away.

PRISCILLA PARKER . I was in Mrs. Stark's service. On Tuesday, 15th May, I was called into the shop, and found the prisoner there—my mistress said, "This cruel woman has robbed me of a pair of boots"—my mistres had the boots on her arm—the prisoner said she had bought them, and paid for them, in the Broadway—my mistress gave her to understand that she would not be allowed to leave the shop—she said if Mrs. Stark would let her go, she would pay her handsomely for the boots—a policeman was seat for, and she was taken away in custody.

WILLIAM BELCHER (policeman, R 438). On the afternoon of 15th May, in consequence of information, I went to Mrs. Stark's shop—I found the prisoner and Mrs. Stark there—Mrs. Stark had a pair of boots on her arm—she said she wished to give the prisoner into custody for stealing these boots—the prisoner said, "It is impossible, it cannot be, it is absurd"—I took her to the station, a key was found on her—she said it belonged to her house, No. 23, Francis-street, New-town, Deptford—I went there, the key opened it—I there found several things; among others, this pair of boots, 1 showed them to Mrs. Stark, and she claimed them—I took them to the prisoner when she was in the cell that same evening, and showed them to her, and told her I had found them at her house—she denied all knowledge of them.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you find a good many other boots? A. I found three pairs of boots, and three pairs of shoes; one pair had been worn, the others were new—one pair had got the name of Mr. Buckle, High-street, Deptford, on them—I went there to inquire, and found they had been given for something in exchange—and one pair had been given by Mrs. Stark, in exchange for something—the others I could get no account of—I brought no other property away; there was no ground for supposing that anything else had been taken—I searched twice, we looked for nothing but boots and shoes; it was a small house—I cannot say whether her husband lived in it; I do not know what he is—I have seen him on three occasions, but not at that house—there was no one there when I went—the prisoner's manner was rather excited when I took her.

MR. BALLANTINE called the following Witnesses for the Defence.

WILLIAM GEORGE ARMITAGE . I am an auctioneer at Deptford—I have known the prisoner about eighteen years, and her husband likewise—he was an ironmonger, some ten or twelve years ago, living in Deptford—he left business; I sold his stock off—I do not know what his means of living have been since that time—the prisoner's character has been highly respecttable—I first head of this case this morning accidentally, as I was coming up by the railway—I knew her father; he committed suicide sixteen or eighteen years ago; I was on the Jury, and we brought in a verdict of insanity—he hung himself—I also knew her mother; I was on her Jury; she did not commit suicide, but died suddenly of disease of the heart some

time last year—the prisoner has been very eccentric in her habits since her mother's death.

HARRIET WITHAM . I am attending to the shop of Mr. Baker, a dyer at Tottenham—I have known the prisoner since 1836—she has borne a highly respectable character, but very strange in her conduct.

GEORGE RICHARD SCUDAMORE . I am clerk to Mr. Marchant, vestry clerk of Deptford, and am registrar of births, deaths, and marriages there—I have known the prisoner fifteen years, and have been very intimate with her and her family—I always considered her very respectable—I was thunderstruck at hearing of this charge against her—I always noticed that she was very eccentric—she lived with her mother until last Aug. when she died—since then she has been living alone, but she was on the point of going to her husband when this charge was made—her goods were all packed up with a view of going.

HARRIET BAKER , I am single—I live with my cousin, Mr. Read, of Deptford, who is independent—I have known the prisoner twelve years—I never knew her to be anything but upright and just—since her mother's death she has been very eccentric.

GUILTY.—Recomnended to mercy by the Jury on account of her character. Confined Six Days.

Before Mr. Justice Wightman.

Reference Number: t18550611-657

657. HENRY THOMPSON , stealing 1 watch, value 4l., the goods of Thomas Angel, from his person.

MR. W. J. PAYNE conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS ANGEL . I am a tailor, and live at Binfield, in Berkshire. On the evening of 28th May, I was at Greenwich fair between 6 and 7 o'clock—I had a watch in my right waistcoat pocket—the prisoner was standing on my right-hand side—I found a little bit of a tug at the top of my neck, bat not much—I found it out more by the silver guard chain hitting me, to which the watch was fastened—I directly looked down, and saw the guard swinging without the watch—I looked round at the prisoner, and saw the watch between his fingers—the police were there watching, and took him into custody—this (produced) is the watch, it has my initials on it.

Prisoner. I was standing looking at the show the same as other persons; two young men came up to me and asked me the name of the show; 1 said I did not know, and they went away; I was standing behind the prosecutor, and in about two minutes two constables came and laid hold of me, and said I had robbed the gentleman of his watch; it was picked up at my feet; the gentleman said he did not know who took it Witness. I swear that I saw the watch in the prisoner's hand, and when the police came up, in the struggle, he dropped it.

GEORGE CHAPMAN (policeman, R 208). On the night in question I was at Greenwich fair, in company with sergeant Newell, and saw the prisoner there, in company with four others—the prisoner was directly in front of the prosecutor, with his elbow up—I saw him leave the prosecutor very suddenly; I followed him, and saw him throw the watch down, so I caught hold of his collar—I took him into custody, and picked up the watch.


(The prisoner was further charged with having been before convicted.)

GEORGE QUINNEAR (police sergeant, P 1). I produce a certificate from Mr. Clark's office—(This certified the conviction of George Thompson, on his

own confession, of burglary, in May. 1854, and that he was sentenced to one years imprisonment.)—the prisoner is the person.

GUILTY.** Aged 23.— Five Years Penal Servitude.

Before Russell Gurney, Esq.

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658. WILLIAM GEORGE , unlawfully wounding Charles James Fox.

MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.

CHARLES JAMES FOX . I live in Bridge-place, Bride-street, Greenwich. 1 am sixty-nine years of age—I went with Beasor, a sheriff's officer, to execute a distress on some premises, on the 22nd of May—I saw Beasor go in at the gate, and he called me to go in at the stone yard by the side, the gate being shut—I got in, and saw the prisoner—he said if I came in, he would break my b—y neck, and shake my b—y guts out—he came to me, and took bold of me by the collar of my coat, and forced me out of the premises on to the stone premises, ran me all along the premises, and shook me violently, and threw me down with all the force he could—I could not get up again-some persons going along hallooed out what a shame it was—I was obliged to call to them to help me up—I was taken to the hospital—my arm was broken—it has been set, but I am still under the doctors—they tell me it is very likely I never may have the use of my arm again.

Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. Were you getting over some place? A. No, there was no place to get over; I was on a common thoroughfare, two or three feet wide, leading into the yard—he ran me along the ground, and threw me violently down—there was patent machinery in the place where he locked himself in—I was assisting Mr. Beasor to levy an execution.

GEORGE BEASOR . I am assistant officer to the Sheriff of Kent I produce a writ of it fi. fa., it was in my possession when I went to Mr. Dixon's—it directed me to levy on his goods—I produced this writ and my warrant—I saw the prisoner there, and explained to him what I came for—it was after that that this occurred to the last witness—the prisoner knew he was my man; he refused to let him it at the gate; I called to him to come round.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you see M'Cullock? A. Yes; he let me in at the gate—the prisoner had the key of the gate after I got in, and he went into the engine house, and locked himself in—M'Cullock was the only man at the gate when he let me in—he then went away—the engineer was there the whole time—I could see where Fox was when this was done to him—the prisoner went away when an officer was sent for—the prisoner was not at the gate when I went in, but shortly afterwards—when I went in the prisoner and the engineer ran up to meet me—one of my men, Williams, went in the gate with me—I told the prisoner my business, and he refused to let any other man in.

JOHN HOLMAN (policeman, R 247). I took the prisoner—he said he had thrown the old man down, and he was very sorry for it.

THOMAS JAMES RYDER . I am a surgeon. The prosecutor came to me, and I found his arm was fractured—I should say he will never thoroughly have the use of his arm again.

GUILTY . Aged 33.— Confined Four Months.


Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

Reference Number: t18550611-659

659. NICHOLAS VERRALL and JOHN FRANKLIN , stealing two bushels of a mixture of clover, hay, and oats, value is. the goods of James Smith, their master; and JAMES ABEL , feloniously receiving the same.

MR. POLAND conducted the Prosecution.

HENRY HUNT (policeman, M 34). On 21st May, I was in company with Sergeant Turpin at the China Hall public house, Lower Rotherhithe-road; we were in plain clothes—there is a trough for water on the south side of the road, opposite the China Hall, and behind it some vacant ground and then a shed, and at the back of the shed a door leading to a harness room—I saw a team belonging to the prosecutor come up, driven by Verrall and Franklin—there were four horses to it; it was driven between the water-trough and the shed—after the waggon stopped, Franklin took two nosebags from under it, and placed them on the ground underneath the shed; they appeared full—Verrall took the bits out of the horses' mouths, and then took two other nosebags from under the same waggon, and put them by the ode of the two that Franklin had placed on the ground—I then saw Verrall take an empty sack from the waggon, which Franklin received and held open while Verrall took the four nosebags one by one and shot the contents into it—Franklin then took the empty nosebags and placed them on the four horses' noses—they left the sack containing the food on the ground, and in two or three minutes afterwards, Abel came from an enclosed shed behind the waggon, picked up the sack, and took it into the shed—shortly afterwards he came out with the empty sack, and placed it on the ground where he had taken it from—Verrall put it into the waggon, and he and Franklin crossed over to the China Hall—Abel remained underneath the shed—(some other waggons had just left when this took place)—about ten minutes afterwards I went to the China Hall, told Verrall and Franklin that I belonged to the police, and that they must consider themselves in custody for stealing the horses' food, belonging to their master, and selling it to Abel—Verrall replied, "You must be mistaken; there has nothing of the kind taken place"—Franklin made no reply—I took them to the station—we found in the mixture some small pieces of marked paper cut up.

Cross-examined by MR. LILLEY. Q. HOW far is the China Hall from London? A. Rather more than two miles from London-bridge—we were in a house opposite, part of the time, which is about twenty-five yards off, and part of the time in a narrow turning by the side of the house—we changed our position after they had deposited the food in the sack—they were both in the public house when I crossed—it is an open shed—I saw a man named Roberts there afterwards, but not at the time.

WILLIAM TURPIN (policeman, M 6). On Monday, 28th May, I was with Hunt—I have heard him give his evidence, and saw what he has described—I afterwards crossed aver to the shed, and saw Roberts leaving Abel with a sack on his back with a bushel and a half or two bushels in it—he stood talking to Abel for about two minutes, and then left to go away—I crossed the road to Abel, and said, "Jim, I want to speak to you; let me see that corn that was left here just now"—he said that there was none—I said, "There was"—he said that what there was there belonged to his master—I took him into custody—he opened the door of the inner shed with a key

of the padlock and went in—I searched and found a quantity of com in two bins; it was a mixture of corn and chaff—there was some in sacks—I took possession of the whole of it and sent for Mr. Leftwich, the landlord of the China Hall, who is Abel's master, and asked him to let me look in his stable—Abel was not present—I did not show Mr. Leftwich the mixture, but he knew that I was taking it away—I examined it and found in it these pieces of brown paper with a mark on them (produced)—the marks are similar to those on this other piece (produced)—I took possession of the sack which Roberts was carrying, and found some brown paper in that, containing the same marks.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you use spectacles at any time? A. No, I did not want them on this occasion—I was at the same window with Hunt—I crossed over to Abel first—I had been told that his name was Jim—there was mixture in two bins, and unmixed corn in another bin—I took it all.

WILLIAM ROBERTS . I am a cooper, and live at No. 1, Orange-place, Lower-road, Rotherhithe—on the 28th May, I was by the China Hall public house, and saw the last two witnesses come to the shed with Abel—I had an empty bag with me when I went into the shed—I then got some chaff, and was stopped with it by Hunt—there was a bushel, or a bushel and a half in it—I have bought stuff of Abel before; he contracted with me to let me have as much as I wanted for 6s. a week, somewhere about three weeks ago—I cannot swear to this stuff; I did not see it examined.

HENRY HUNT re-examined. This is the sack I took from Roberts, and in which I found the pieces of brown paper.

JAMES SMITH . I am a coal merchant, carrying on business with my father, at Hermitage Wharf, Wapping—on the day in question I was carting provisions to Deptford Dockyard—Verrall and Locke had charge of one of the waggons—I sent four nosebags with the team; but not to my own knowledge—we do not watch the carmen; we put confidence in them—for some reason I had some brown paper marked with a stamp—this produced is precisely similar to it; I have some in my pocket, which I received from Mr. Mullins, our solicitor, and which is stamped also—the food is clover, meadow-hay, and oats, the best we can buy—my men have no authority to sell food; if the horses do not eat all the food, we expect them to bring the remainder home—the mixture is worth 1s. 6d. or 2s. a bushel.

Cross-examined. Q. How long has Verrall been in your service? A. I should think over fourteen years—Franklin has only been so a short time—the China Hall is about two or two and a half miles from London, and is about half way to Deptford dock, where they had to go—they would have to return to my premises.

WILLIAM FORD . I am wharf-clerk to Smith and Son—on Saturday night 26th May, I received a quantity of brown paper, cut up and stamped, like this produced, and on 28th May, I went round to the stables early in the morning, and mixed with twenty or thirty bushels of horses' food the quantity that Mr. Smith gave me on Saturday night—it was the only food that was accessible; the horses have no other food but that which is prepared at the stable—I gave some of these pieces of paper to Pinckney, the horse-keeper.

Cross-examined. Q. What was the size of the paper? A. Little pieces, about the size of a pea—I do not suppose it would hurt the horses—the stamp is not so plain now as it was; it has been handled and defaced.

STEPHEN PINCKNEY . I am horse-keeper to Messrs. Smith and Son—on

28th May, I received these pieces of brown paper—I do not know whether there are any marks on it—I put some of it in my pocket, and threw some of it on the corn which was mixed up for the horses—I put some of it where the nosebags are filled by the carmen.

Cross-examined. Q. How much of the mixture was there? A. From twenty to thirty bushels—it was in bulk, laid up in the corner of the loft JOSEPH LEFTWICH. Abel was my servant, and had charge of the back shed on 28th May; he had the key of it.

Cross-examined. A. How long has he been in your service? A. About two years; during that time he has borne a respectable, honest character—I bait horses in the stable—he had authority to sell a little corn for me at any time—the week previous he paid me 2l. 8s. for corn of mine that he had sold.

MR. POLAND. Q. Was he your ostler? A. Yes—I deal in stuff of this kind—I have sold nineteen sacks at a time.

(Abel received a good character.)

VERRALL— GUILTY. Aged 36.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury on account of his character. Confined Six Months.

FRANKLIN— GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Six Months.

ABEL— GUILTY. Aged 34.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury on account of his character. Confined Four Months.

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660. JOHN WISBY and ROBERT LOW , stealing 2 bushels of clover, hay, and oats, value 4s.; the goods of James Smith and another, their masters; and JAMES ABEL , feloniously receiving the same.

MR. POLAND conducted the Prosecution.

JAMES CLARK (policeman). On Monday, 28th May, I was with Hinchlift, another constable, in plain clothes, and saw a waggon belonging to Smith and Sons in charge of Wisby and Low, coming from Deptford towards London, empty—it came up about 20 minutes past 5 o'clock, and was drawn up between the watering trough and the shed—I saw the horses stop, and Low went to the side of the waggon and unhooked two nosebags, and took them into the shed where Abel was—Low went to the outer shed first, and put down the nosebags, Abel then unlocked the door of the inner shed, and took them in—they were full—Wisby unhooked the other two nosebags, and gave them to Low, who carried them into the inner shed—he went through the doorway, and I lost sight of them—Low came out of the doorway, it may be a minute afterwards, with four nosebags empty—Wisby then watered the horses, and put the nosebags on them—Abel came from the shed towards the waggon, and I saw him put hid hand into his pocket and give something to Wisby; it was impossible to see what, as the one hand went into the other—Low and Wisby then went across the road to the China Hall public house—I afterwards saw the waggon drive away towards London—after Verrall's waggon came up, we followed them, but did not take them into custody then, because there was another waggon there—I took them the same evening at Messrs. Smith's.

Cross-examined by MR. LILLEY. Q. How far off were you? A. From twenty-five to thirty yards—I am certain I was not 100 yards—I have measured it; it is thirty yards—I was in a house, and looked through a broken pane of glass in a window.

WILLIAM HINCHLIFF (policeman, M 85). I was with Clark in this public house, in plain clothes—I saw Low take two nosebags from under the waggon, and put them against the boards underneath the shed—Abel then

unlocked the door, and took the two nosebags into the inner shed—Low returned to Wisby, who unhooked two other nosebags from underneath and gave them to Low, who went with them into the shed—Abel then returned with four empty nosebags, and I saw them put on to the horses—a short time afterwards Abel came out of the shed, put his hand into his pocket, and put it into Wisby's hand—about half an hour after the waggon had driven away; I went to the inner shed, and took charge of some mixture—I searched it, and found one piece of brown paper in it marked—I have not got it.

Cross-examined. Q. Who has got it? A. I lost it—I only found one piece there, but I found more afterwards when I got to the station—I gave them to Turpin.

JAMES SMITH . I had some brown paper stamped, and gave directions for it—my men have no authority to sell my mixture—if there is any left over, it is their duty to bring it home—Wisby has been in my service and my father's thirty years, and Low fourteen or fifteen years.

WILLIAM FORD . I am wharf clerk to Messrs. Smith and Son—I received some pieces of brown paper from Mr. Smith—I mixed them with some of the food, and gave some to Pinckney to mix with the food—that was accessible to the carmen.

STEPHEN PINCKNEY . I am horse keeper to Messrs. Smith and Son—I received some pieces of brown paper, and mixed them with some food in the loft which was accessible to the carmen, and from which they filled the nosebags.

WILLIAM TURPIN (police sergeant, M 6). I saw the waggon drive op, driven by Wisby and Low, and saw it drive off—I saw Verrall's wagon come up—I took possession of all the mixture in the inner shed, about half an hour after this waggon had gone.

WISBY— GUILTY . Aged 45.

LOW— GUILTY . Aged 46.

Confined Three Months.

ABEL— GUILTY . Aged 34.— Confined Four Months more.

Reference Number: t18550611-661

661. GEORGE HOBBS and JAMES FENSON , stealing 2 bushels of clover, hay, and oats, value 4s., the goods of James Smith and another, their masters; and JAMES ABEL , feloniously receiving the same.

MR. POLAND conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM HINCHLIFF (policeman). On 28th May I was at the China Hall, watching with Clark; we were in plain clothes—I saw a waggon come up, driven by the prisoners; it drew up between the trough and the shed—Hobbs went and took two bags from under the waggon—Abel was walking about under the open shed—Hobbs went in through the little door, which was open—the bags appeared to be full—he was inside about half a minute, and then came out with two bags, which appeared empty—Fenson took the other two bags from under the waggon into the little shed—Abel was then walking up and down—Hobbs put one bag on the shaft horse and one on another—then Fenson came out with two empty nosebags, and put them on the other two horses—they then went to Abel, and appeared to be talking together, and then all three went across to the China Hall—I did not take them, I waited till the other waggon had drawn up—I afterward took Hobbs and Fenson at the wharf—I took charge of the mixture in the shed, and found one piece of paper in it in the shed.

Cross-examined. Q. How far were you off? A. About twenty-five yards—I helped Clark to measure it.

DENNIS CLARK (policeman, M 138). I saw the waggon drive up by Hobbs and Fenson—I have heard the evidence of the list witness; it is correct—the waggon was going towards London.

JAMES SMITH . If any food is left over, it is the carmen's duty to bring it back—they have not the slightest authority to sell any—Hobbs has been with us six years, and Fenson two or three years, on and off—we had some brown paper marked, and gave certain directions with it.

THOMAS FORD . I am wharf clerk to Mr. Smith, I received the pieces of brown paper, and mixed them with the food from which the carmen filled the nosebags.

STEPHEN PINCKNEY . I mixed some of this brawn paper with the mixture to which the carmen had access.

WILLIAM TURPIN (policeman, M 6), I saw the waggon driven by these men, and saw it drive off, and when Verrall and Franklin were taken into custody—I searched the corn in the heap, and found some pieces of brown paper, and there was some in the two bins.

Cross-examined. Q. You took also some corn unmixed? A. Yes.

HOBBS— GUILTY . Aged 35.


Confined Three Months.


Before Mr. Recorder.

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662. JOHN WILLIAM KINGSHOTT , stealing 5 bushels of oats, and 2 trusses of hay; the goods of Henry Darby, his master; and JOSEPH HAMLIN and CHARLES BELSHAM , feloniously receiving the same.

MR. TALFOURD SALTER conducted the Prosecution.

HENRY DARBY . I am a miller, of Nine Elms Mill, Battersea—Kingshott was my carman. On the evening of 15th June, my attention was attracted to a sack of oats, covered up under some refuse straw in one corner of the stable—the sack was totally concealed—it contained six bushels of oats—there is a hutch in the stable, in which it is usual to put the oats required for the horses—it will contain about a sack—when the prisoner required oats for the horses, it was his duty, to ask the foreman of the mill for a sack of oats—he had no authority to ask for more at one time—I got a constable, Dendy, who mixed some pieces of paper in the sack, in my Presence, and replaced it in its former position—he afterwards cut a comer of the sack—next evening, Friday, I found the sack removed from the corner, and concealed nearer to the door, in a better position for removing—King-shott was to take a load of flour to Bromley, in Kent, about eleven miles off, on the Saturday morning, and was to leave at four o'clock in the morning, with the waggon—I observed the waggon that evening, it had two nose bags strapped to it, each of which would hold about a peck—no other food would be required for the horses on that journey—this hay is similar to mine, and is bound in a similar manner, and these oats are of a similar kind to mine, of which I produce a sample—the officer put his initials, in pencil, on some of the papers, but I did not see him find them—these sacks are mine, they have my mark on them—Kingshott had gone that journey for me for three weeks before.

Cross-examined by MR. W. J. PAYNE. Q. Have you a very large establishment? A. Yes; I employ ten or a dozen men—Kingshott would have to stop on the road; he was going to Mr. Jenkins, of Bromley-common—he would go through Southend and Lewisham—Southend is seven or eight

miles from me, and would not be an improper place for him to stop and rest the horses—he is usually gone a little more than twelve hours—he his been in my service twelve months, and was with Mr. Hutton, who occupied the mill before me—he continued with me when Mr. Hutton left—he is married, and has several children—my attention was called to the sack by another of my servants—my foreman is not here—I cannot tell whether this was not one of the sacks of oats which had been given out by him for the horses—I put my hand into the nose bags when they were strapped to the side of the wagon—I should not have objected to his taking more food, if he thought it necessary—he would not take hay with him; the hones never have hay, it is always cut up into chaff—I or the foreman get up about or before 6 o'clock.

MR. T. SALTER. Q. Was it the habit of the foreman to come about 6 o'clock in the morning? A. Yes—the prisoner was aware that that was his habit—he had orders to go at 4 o'clock that morning—I was called up at 4 o'clock, and saw him go out—I am certain that the sack I saw on Friday was the one I saw on Thursday—five bushels and a half was a great deal too much for the horses, and there were two trusses of hay in addition.

Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE Q. HOW many horses went in the team? A. Two.

JOHN DENDY (policeman). I accompanied the prosecutor to his stable on Thursday evening, and under some litter he pointed out a sack containing four bushels—I took this handful of oats (produced) out of it—I also marked seven pieces of paper; some I put my number on, and others my initials, and placed them in the sack as far as I could shove my hand down, about a foot and a half—those produced are some of them, here are my initials; I found them in the sack—I went again on Friday evening, and found the sack removed nearer to the door—I cut this corner (produced) off it, it quite agrees—I went to the house about 1 o'clock in the morning, and about half past 2 o'clock saw Kingshott come into the yard—I could see all over the yard where I was—he unlocked the stable, went in, and then came out; went to the shed where the waggon was standing, then returned to the stable, took out a sack apparently full, and went to the yard where the waggon was standing; he then came back to the loft, threw out two trusses of hay, and took them to where the waggon was standing; he then came out of the stable a third time, with a sack containing about a bushel and a half, and took that also to the waggon—at a little before 4 o'clock I saw him drive off—the waggon was covered with a tarpaulin, and was drawn by two horses; I could not see what it contained—I acquainted the master, and then went into the shed where the waggon had been, but could not find any corn or hay—I followed Kingshott till he came to the King's Arms, at Southend, near Bromley, seven or eight miles from the prosecutor's—he drew into the yard, and I went on to the police station in Bromley, it was then about half past 8 o'clock—I remained there till I saw Kingshott pass, about an hour afterwards—I then followed him till he came to the place where he had to unload, and when he had unloaded I stopped him on his road back, told him that I was a policeman, and should charge him with stealing a sack of oats, and two trusses of hay from his master's stable that morning—he said, "I know nothing about if—I searched the waggon, and found this sack (produced) with the corner cut off, which had been cut off by me, it was empty—there was no hay in the waggon—I took him into custody, handed him over to another constable, and gave information

to the sergeant who went with me to the King's Arms, and produced to me two trusses of hay and this other sack (produced)—both the sacks contained oats, the larger one about four bushels, and the other about a bushel and a half; it has Mr. Darby's name on it—on opening the sack containing the four bushels, I found the papers I had put in and marked, six of them—the oats corresponded with those that had come out of the concealed sack.

Crow-examined by MR. W. J. PAYNE. Q. When you went to Mr. Darby's house was anybody there? A. The millers were at work in the mill—they work at tides.

Cross-examined by MR. LILLEY. Q. When you apprehended Kingshott, how far were you from the King's Arms, Southend? A. Nearly two miles, towards Bromley.

THOMAS KENT (policeman, S 31). I received a communication from Dendy, and went with him to the King's Arms, at Southend—I saw Belsham sitting on the shafts of the van, which was standing outside the public house—I saw Mr. Hackley, the landlord, and afterwards saw the prisoner Hamlin in the tap room—I took them both together into the yard, and told them that 1 wanted them for receiving a quantity of corn which had been left there that morning, which another man was charged with stealing—neither of them made any reply—I told them it was of no use denying it, for they must consider themselves in my custody, and I was certain that the corn was left there, and I should have to search their master's house all over—Hamlin then said, "I was not here;" and after a short time Belsham said, "I took it"—I said, "Where is it?"—he pointed to a shed which was locked—I asked for the key; he felt in his pocket, and said, "I have not got it"—I asked Hamlin if he had got it—he felt in his pocket, and said, "Here it is"—I took it from Hamlin, unlocked the door, and saw several sacks there containing oats, and chaff, and corn, and two or three trusses of hay—Belsham went in with me; I asked him which was the sack which contained the oats that I wanted—he pointed to the one that contained the six bushels, and said, "That is the one"—I took charge of it—seeing only these. two trusses of clover hay, I said, "I suppose that is the hay?"—he said, "Yes;" and I took charge of it—I returned to the stable with another constable, Belcher, who is not here, handcuffed the prisoners, put them in the waggon, and then returned to the stable and found another sack, containing about a bushel and a half, with Mr. Darby's name on it.

Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. Hamlin was the head ostler? A. Yes.

(Kingshott's statement before the Magistrate was here read as follows:—"I did not put the oats in the stable; I was littering my horse on Friday night; I touched this sack with the fork; I went home, and next morning I pulled out the sack, and turned some of the corn into the bin, and the remainder I put on the waggon to give my horses on the journey; I had to carry corn for my horses in Mr. Hutton's time, and also in Mr. Darby's, as the nosebags are not enough, and I always carried some hay with me in Mr. Hutton's time, a truss and a half; I always stopped at Southend about an hour, and put my horses in the stable, and what corn I had I always left there till I returned back, when I gave them the remainder; the horses always ate out of the nose-tags while the waggon was unloading; when I got to Southend, I watered my horses, and asked the ostler to let me leave the corn till I came back; when I was coming back from Mr. Jenkins's, I was taken into custody.")


Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

Reference Number: t18550611-663

663. MARTIN CONOLLY was indicted for uttering counterfeit coin, after a previous conviction for a like offence; to which he

PLEADED GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Eighteen Months.

Reference Number: t18550611-664

664. WILLIAM LESLIE, JAMES BURKE , and THOMAS WILSON were indicted for unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.

MESSRS. SCRIVEN and CLERK conducted the Prosecution.

ISAAC SPRINGETT . I am a baker. On Monday 4th June, the prisoner Leslie came for a 2c?. loaf; I gave it to him, and then he said he would hare a half quartern—he put down half a crown—I saw that it was bad—there was a constable in my house who followed him—he was returning to the shop again, and met the constable at the door.

CHARLES POVEY (policeman, V 3). On 4th June, 1 was at Springett's house at Richmond—I went to the door, saw Leslie, and took him in custody; searched him in the shop, and found 1s., two sixpences, two halfpence, and a farthing in his hand, in good money, and 1d. in his pocket—I received this half crown (produced) from Springett—1 have had it in my possession ever since.

WILLIAM S—EDMEAD (policeman, V 32) On 4th June, I was on duty at the station; Leslie was brought there and locked up—a short time afterwards he sent for me—I went to the cell, and he said that he had been led into the scrape by two men, who would be found waiting at Thames-bridge, Richmond; that he slept with them at the same house at Kingston over night; and one of them asked him to go over Kingston-bridge with a shilling, which he did, and got change; that they afterwards gave him half a crown, which he got changed in Kingston, at a white public house in the market place; and that they came on towards Richmond, and after crossing a common, he uttered half a crown and one of the men uttered a 5s. piece; that he then came oh to Richmond, and received the half crown, which he had been detected in passing, of a man in a navy jacket and a hat; he said that the shortest man had a lot of Had money wrapped up in a red bag—I sent two constables down to the bridge, and the other two prisoners were shortly afterwards brought by them to the station—I then said to Leslie, "Do you know these two men?"—he said, "Yes, they are the men I meant;" and, pointing to Burke, said, "That is the man that gave me the half crown to pass when I was detected, at the baker's shop"—they denied it—I heard Wilson say at the police court that Leslie could not see what he passed, for he went in by himself.

JOHN JUKES (policeman, V 155). On 4th June, I went with Edmead in search of Burke and Wilson, and saw them within 200 yards of Richmond-bridge, sitting down in conversation—they afterwards went together nearly a mile along Cholmondeley-walk, nearly to Isleworth-ferry, where they sat down near a large tree—I went round one side of the tree and took Burke, and the other constable took Wilson—I told Burke that it was for uttering counterfeit coin—he went a short distance, and then said he would see me b—d before he would go any further with me, and commenced struggling and tried to throw me down—while he was struggling, he took this bag (produced) out of his pocket and tried to throw it into the Thames; it fell within six yards of the river; a man picked it up and gave it to me—I found at the station that it contained seven half crowns, six of which were in paper and one not, a crown, and a shilling—while I was struggling with the prisoner, I saw a piece of white paper, it was given to me by a man who

was passing, and contained a crown piece—I searched him at the station, and found 15s. 8d. on him in good money, and 5s. in copper.

MARY SMITH . I am servant at Mrs. Richardson's lodging house at Kingston. On Saturday, 2nd June, two of the prisoners came to lodge there; they remained till Monday morning about 6 o'clock—on Sunday evening the other one came, and they all three breakfasted together on Monday morning—I did not provide their breakfast; they got it for themselves—I saw them all three leave the house and go along the lane together—while they were at the house they had conversation together.

Leslie. Q. Did you go in to the mistress to look for my bundle? A. Yes; I watched you all as far as the Quart Pot; I could not see any further.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . I am inspector of coin to Her Majesty's Mint. This half crown uttered is counterfeit—these seven half crowns found in the bag are bad, and all from one mould—here are also two bad crowns and one bad shilling.

Leslies Defence. I have been led into it; I am very sorry for what I have done.

Burke's Defence. I picked up the money; Wilson is quite innocent.

Wilson's Defence. I never did such a thing in my life.

(Leslie's father gave him a good character.)

LESLIE— GUILTY. Aged 16.—Recommended to mercy by the prosecutor and Jury. Confined Six Months.

BURKE*— GUILTY . Aged 37.— Confined Eighteen Months.

WILSON— GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined Twelve Months.

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665. REBECCA WILLING was indicted for a like offence.

MESSRS. SCRIVKN and SHARPS conducted the Prosecution.

AMELIA TILLETT . I am a barmaid in the New Cut, Lambeth. On Saturday night, 5th May, the prisoner came for a glass of gin and gave me shilling—I said "This is a bad one"—she said, "Is it?" and gave me another—I tried it with my teeth, that was bad also—I called Mr. M'Intosh, the manager, gave him the shillings, and pointed out the prisoner.

Prisoner. The barman served me. Witness. No; there was nobody in the bar but me—I had not any other money in my hand.

ALEXANDER M'INTOSH . The last witness called me, and told me that the prisoner had tried to pass two counterfeit shillings—the prisoner could hear that—she said she was in a fish shop and was told that they were bad, but that she could not get near enough to the bar to call the barmaid's attention to them—I gave the shillings to Underwood.

Prisoner. Q. Did not I offer to go to the fish shop with you? A. No.

JOHN UNDERWOOD (policeman, L 66). On the 6th May, I received these two shillings (produced) from M'Intosh, and took the prisoner to the station—the female searcher afterwards gave me 1s. 6d.

SARAH PEPPER . I am female searcher at the station. I searched the prisoner and took a bad sixpence out of her hand, and one shilling wrapped up in paper dropped from her bosom—it was bad—I gave it to Sergeant Jones, who gave it to Underwood in my presence—the prisoner said, "A person will do anything for her children who has a drunken husband."

Prisoner. I could not say that, for I have no children. Witness. Those were the words you said—you did not give me the sixpence—you had it in your left hand, and I took it.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . This money is all bad.

GUILTY . Aged 44.— Confined Six Months.

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666. JOHN NEILL was indicted for a like offence.

MESSRS. SCRIVEN and SHARPE conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN BLACKMAN . On the evening of 11th May, the prisoner came to my shop for a pair of boots—he tendered me a 5s. piece, and said that if the boots did not fit he would bring them back in half an hour—I sounded the 5s. piece and gave it to my wife—she went out with it and brought it back, and shortly afterwards the prisoner left—I then tried to change it, and it was pronounced to be bad—it was not out of my sight while I was there—I marked it "B"—I afterwards went with my wife to the Camberwell station, and saw the prisoner there—I expressed no doubt of him—I told him that he did not bring those boots again—he said, "I did not steal the boots"—I gave the crown to the policeman.

ELIZA BLACKMAN . My husband gave me the crown, and it did not go out of my possession till I returned it to him—I went with him to Camber-well, and identified the prisoner at the station—he stood with his knees down, and I said that he was rather shorter, but when he stood up I had no doubt.

Prisoner. Q. Did you not say that I was not the man 1 A. No; nor that I did not know you.

JOHN BENJAMIN UNDERWOOD . On the 11th May, I saw the prisoner at our shop in Brizton-road—he came for a 6d. pair of stockings, and put half a crown down—I knew it was bad directly—I saw it and gave it to Mr. Moore, who came to the prisoner and gave him in charge.

EDWARD MOORE . The last witness is my assistant—he gave me half a crown—it was bad, and I charged the prisoner with passing it—he made no remark—I asked him if he had any more about him—he said, "No"—I asked him if he had any coin of any description—he said, "No"—I asked him how he became possessed of it—he said that a gentleman gave it to him for carrying a parcel—I told him I should give him in charge—he said, "Don't lock me up; I don't want the half crown"—I gave him in charge, with the half crown, and afterwards gave it back to my assistant to mark it.

JOHN BLACKMAN re-examined. I gave the half crown to the policeman.

CHARLES HASTINGS (policeman, P 84). On 12th May I received half a crown from Mr. Moore, and a crown from Mr. Blackman (produced).

WILLIAM WEBSTER . These are both bad.

Prisoner's Defence. I did not know they were bad.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Months.

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667. JOHN GROVES was indicted for a like offence.

MR. SHARPS conducted the Prosecution.

RICHARD WESTON . I live at No. 11, Clare-street, Clare-market, and am shopman to Messrs. Wood and Son, tripe dressers, of No. 10, Clare-street, and No. 128, Lower-marsh. On Thursday, 10th May, the prisoner came to No. 128, Lower-marsh, asked for a pound of tripe, and gave me half a crown—I gave him two shillings and two penny pieces in change—the instant he went out of the shop, my young man called my attention to the half crown—I had placed it in the till, but there was no other there—I found it was bad—the prisoner came again, about 7 o'clock, for half a pound of tripe—I recognized him, and asked him whether he would have the fourpenny, the same as he had had before—he said, "Yes," and gave me another half crown—it had the same peculiar ring as the first—I gave it to Koser, the boy in the shop, and told him to get it changed—he brought it back in a minute or two, and

said it was bad—I gave him into custody, with the two half crowns—I marked the last one at the station—I had taken no other half crown all day.

JOHN ROSER . I was nine years old last Jan. I remember the prisoner coming to my master's shop on Thursday, 10th May—he is the same man—I saw him give that half crown—my master gave it to me to get it changed—I was unable to do so, and returned, and gave him back the same one—it was not out of my sight.

JOSEPH HOILE (police sergeant, L 8). On Thursday morning, 10th May, Weston gave the prisoner into my custody, charged with uttering these half crowns, which he gave to me (produced)—the prisoner said that Weston had never seen him in the shop before.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . These are both bad, and struck in the same die.

Prisoner's Defence. I was at work at the time, and can prove it.

JOHN CURTIS . The prisoner has worked for me for the last seven years, as a tin plate worker, at No. 3, York-street, London-road—he was with me on Thursday, 10th May, from 3 till half past 5 o'clock—I had been at work all day—we had been at work in the shop, at milk-can making—he dines there, and has his tea.

Cross-examined by MR. SHARPE. Q. When did you first hear of this? A. Not till the following Tuesday—this is the first time I have mentioned this—I did not know of his being before the Magistrate till he was committed, and then I went and asked him how he came to do it—when he left me I gave him 5d. worth of halfpence for doing some cans for me, as his mother, who lives in the same place, and he, had fallen out—I know it was the 10th June because I had to go down to Mr. Higgs, a man who I do a great deal of work for, and when I heard that the prisoner was locked up, I remembered the date, and took notice of it—I have' got a watch, and besides that I looked at the Alfred's Head clock, as I had to be at New-street, Kennington-road, before 6 o'clock, and when I got to the Alfred's Head it was a quarter to 6—I also looked at my watch about 3 o'clock, because when the milkman came, I had him to clean some cans for me—I had a lot of old ones to mend, and I wanted to see if I had time to do them myself and I had Dot—I live in the same house as the prisoner's mother; I am not living with her—about three weeks before the prisoner was locked up, I refused to let him remain in the house with me; that was because he kept bad company, at the lodging house at the bottom of the street, costermongers, thieves, or something of that kind—he did not keep company there, but was down there continually.

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Six Months.

Before Mr. Justice Wightman.

Reference Number: t18550611-668

668. EMMA COOK , feloniously assaulting Edward Hughes, with intent to rob him.

MR. M'ENTEER conducted the Prosecution.

EDWARD HUGHES . I am an engineer, of Orange-street, Leicester-square. On Sunday evening, 27th May, I was returning from Lambeth to Hunger-ford Bridge; the prisoner and another woman spoke to me at the top of a turning—it was then about half past 1 o'clock, in the morning—I passed on and pretended I did not hear them; but as I increased my speed, they followed me up, overtook me, and wanted me to go home with them—they laid hold of my arms, the prisoner got in front of me, and the other put her arms round my neck, and told me not to be cross—I put my hand to my watch pocket, and my watch went out of my hand—I caught it in the prisoner's hand, and took it from her; she kept hold of the guard, and triad

to wrench it—I called "Police!" three or four times—I had her hand in mine—a man came up, and represented himself as a policeman—T told him to take one of them, but the neighbours came, and he started off, the other girl after him, and the prisoner third—I ran after them, and called "Police!"—the man opened a door with a key, went in, and the other girl after him, and I caught the prisoner—I called "Police!" and she put her hand over my mouth—I gave her in charge—I had been to the house of a friend of mine, Mr. Morgan—I had been drinking very little—I knew what I was about, or I could not have run after these girls.

ELIZA ESSENHIGH . I am the wife of Henry Essenhigh, of No. 41, Granby-place. On the night of 27th May, I was sitting at my window with my landlady, and saw the prisoner and another following the prosecutor; when they got to my window the prisoner and the other girl were talking together—I saw her put her hand to the prosecutor's watch pocket, and take his watch, as he stood talking with them—they talked together about five minutes—the other girl put her hands round him; he tried to halloo "Police!" and the prisoner put her hands over his mouth—I and my landlady hallooed "Police!" as loud as we could—some man came up, and asked the prosecutor what he wanted—he said, "I want a constable"—he said, "lama constable, let her go"—he said, "No, I will not; she has got my watch"—a policeman came up, and they ran off—I had seen the prisoner several times, but never spoke to her.

Prisoner. It was pitch dark, it was impossible for you to see anything. Witness. I could see everything.

WILLIAM SMIXH (policeman). On Sunday morning, about half past 1 o'clock, I was in Granby-place, and heard a disturbance and a cry of "Police!"—I looked under the archway, and saw several people at some distance down the street—I went as fast as I could, and overtook the prosecutor with the prisoner—he said, "I give this female into custody, she has tried to steal my watch"—she said, "I have not got your watch"—I took her to the station.

Prisoner's Defence. He wanted to take indecent liberties with me in the street, and because I would not allow it, he accused me of trying to steal his watch.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Three Months.

Before Mr. Justice Maule.

Reference Number: t18550611-669

669. JOHN KING feloniously forging and uttering a promissory note for 7l. 10s., with intent to defraud.

MESSRS. PARRT and W. J. PAYNE conducted the Prosecution.

LOUIS WELFARE . I am clerk of William Henry Freeman, proprietor of the Equitable Loan Office, No. 73, Oakley-street, Lambeth—the prisoner came to me on or about 12th July last, with this form of application for a loan of 7l. 10s.—one portion of it has to be filled up with his own name, and the other portion the proposed securities have to fill up; he brought it to me filled up as it is now—I do not recollect selling him the form—it is a form issued from our office for 3d.—he left the form, and came for the money on the 18th—in the meantime our secretary, Mr. Aaron, made inquiries—he is since dead—the note purports to be signed by J. F. King, Luke Laws, and William Fox—on the 18th the prisoner came, and I paid him the money—the prisoner signed the name of J. F. King in my presence, and a man who came with him signed the name of William Fox in my presence—the name of Luke Laws was then already written in the note; our secretary got that signature—the loan was to be repaid by instalments

—2l. 8s. was paid by various instalments up to about 11th Nov. last, and then they ceased—I sent each of the securities a letter for the amount of the balance, and they said they knew nothing of the transaction—I made inquiries of Laws and Fox myself—I next saw the prisoner on 4th May last in St. George's-circus, Blackfriars-road—I asked him if his name was King; he hesitated for some time, and then said, "Yes, my name is King"—I asked him if he recollected obtaining a 7l. 10s. loan of me in Oakley-street; he said, yes, he did; he said he thought it was all paid, I believe he said he thought his securities had paid it—I said they had not done so, that they denied all knowledge of the transaction; he said something about it being a mistake, and any reasonable reparation he could make he would—he Raid, "lam busy now, and cannot attend to it," and went away in a bustle; a constable was present, and I gave him into custody.

Cross-examined by Mr. THOMPSON. Q. Was it the course of business for Mr. Aaron to make the inquiries? A. Yes; about the respectability of the proposed securities—Mr. Aaron brought the note to me with the name of Luke Laws to it—the person who signed the name of Fox only came to the office once, that was when he signed the note on 18th July—6l. 12s. 6d. was advanced to the prisoner upon the note—I do not remember Mr. Aaron telling the prisoner that if one of the sureties did not stand, any one else would do—I heard nothing of the sort said.

LUKE LAWS . I am a butcher, and live at No. 8, Newport-market—the name of "Luke Laws, butcher, No. 8, Newport-market, "to this form of application is not my writing, nor is the name of Luke Laws to this promissory note, I never authorised any one to write it—I never saw this form of application until the prisoner: was in custody—the prisoner did not ask me to become security for this loan, he did ask me to become security for him some time before; it was for a small amount, about 7l. 10s., it was not for much I know; that was about twelve months ago—I promised him that I would if he got another security—he did get another, and the clerk from the office came and asked me if I knew the other security; I said I did not, and he said he should not grant the loan, and that was all I heard of it—I never signed anything for him as security for this loan—I have lived in my present residence about twenty years—there has been no other person of my name living there during that time.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you know whose writing this is? A. I have no idea (looking at a paper)—this "E. Laws" is my wife's writing, the other is not—I never saw this note before the prisoner was in custody—I do not know Mr. Aaron, the secretary—I never heard of his calling at my house,—I have known the prisoner from his infancy, and knew his parents, but during the last few years I have seen him but seldom—I never heard anything against him—I do not know that his mother is living with Mr. Fox.

MR. PAYNE. Q. Did you ever give your wife authority to sign for you? A. Never.

THOMAS GLASS MELHUISH , MD. I practice in York-road, Lambeth. I know William Fox, I saw him this day week for the first time, and am still attending him; he is suffering from two serious diseases of the lungs, and is confined to his bed; he is under the influence of mercury as well—bronchitis is one disease, which he has recently caught; he is not out of danger, and is not able to be here.

THOMAS M'LAUGHLIN (policeman, L 174). I was before the Magistrate on 4th May, when William Fox was examined as a witness in the prisoner's

presence; he had an opportunity of cross-examining him if he liked—it is the same person who has just been spoken of.

(The deposition of William Fox was read as follows:)—"I live at No. 76, Union-street, Kennington-road. I have known the prisoner five years—he has asked me to become a security for loans, but not this one, and I have always refused—I have looked at the promissory note, and the application now produced, and I swear that the signatures William Fox on them respectively are not in my hand writing—the first time I ever saw the promissory note was on Friday last, the application I did not see till to-day—I have lived where I am now living for three or four years—I swear that no other person of the name of William Fox has lived there during that period—I am a mason by trade, but in consequence of ill health, I left the trade-signed, William Fox")—I took the prisoner into custody—he said he thought the money was paid by his securities, that he had written to them, and he thought the money was paid.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you made inquiries into the prisoner's character? A. I have; I find he bears a very good character; he has been in business as a beer shop keeper, but failed.

WILLIAM HENRY LEMAN . I keep the King's Arms public house, Kennington-lane. The prisoner was my barman, between three and four years; during that time I had opportunities of seeing his writing—I have seen the application form—I believe the name of Fox to be the prisoner's writing, but I cannot swear positively to that of Laws; the other is quite in his usual style of writing.

Cross-examined. Q. I believe after leaving you he went into business for himself? A. He did.

LOUIS WELFARE re-examined. To the best of my belief the witness, Fox, is not the person who signed the name of William Fox—I am not sure about it.


(There was another indictment for conspiracy, upon which no evidence was offered. )

Before Mr. Recorder.

Reference Number: t18550611-670

670. JOHN WALKER , stealing 3 lbs. weight of cheese, 3 lbs. weight of ham, 60 cheroots, and 1 handkerchief, value 6s.; the goods of John Hall Smythe, in his dwelling house: 1 coat, value 2l.; of Frederick Lett; and 1 apron, value 1s.; of James Constable; and afterwards burglariously breaking out of the said dwelling house.

MR. RYLAND conducted the Prosecution.

JAMES CONSTABLE . I am waiter at the Royal Albert tavern, Wands-worth-road, kept by Mr. Smythe—he has recently gone into that house—on Tuesday, 8th May, there was a large party there—in the course of the evening I saw the prisoner in the house; about half-past 11 or 12 o'clock—I do not recollect seeing him before—he was in the parlour—I took no notice of him—the party separated and the house was closed about half-past 2 o'clock—I went to bed about 2 o'clock—I slept in the kitchen, close to the bar-parlour—my master was the last up—when I went to bed I recollect pulling off my apron, and throwing it on the bed—I was disturbed about half-part 4 o'clock, as near as I could judge, by hearing some one about; but I did not take any notice of it for a time—some one then opened the door leading into the kitchen—I lay very quiet for a time, then got up and went out of the kitchen into the passage leading to the street door; I there saw the

prisoner just in the act of opening the door—he had got something tied up in my apron—I asked him his business; he said be had orders to sleep there—I asked him for the bundle; he would not give it me, and after a time I laid hold of it, and took it from him—I found it contained a large piece of cheese—it was a cheese which had been partaken of the night before, and had been left on the bar table; the apron had been on my bed—I left the prisoner for a minute to go up and tell my master; he got up and came down directly, but the prisoner had then gone—I afterwards found a coat in the parlour—I do not know who it belonged to.

Cross-examined by MR. LANGFORD. Q. When you asked the prisoner for the apron, did not he say, "If you will lend it roe, I will bring it back?" A. He did; he said he had brought the cheese in last night, and he wanted my apron to take it with him.

JOHN HALL SMYTHE . I keep the Royal Albert public house, Wands-worth-road—on Tuesday evening, 8th May, 1 had a large party at my house—it was rather a late one—towards midnight I saw the prisoner in the parlour, taking a glass of wine with a friend of mine—he had not been invited as one of the guests, and had no business there—the party broke up about 2 o'clock—I was the last up—I saw the house cleared of everybody, as I believed, and made everything safe; the hall door especially—between 4 and 5 o'clock I was awoke by Constable, who brought up a bundle containing a piece of cheese which had been on the bar table over night—I got up and went down as quickly as I could—the prisoner was brought to the house shortly afterwards by one of the railway police—my house abuts on the goods railway yard—I asked him what he could mean by it, or something of the kind; I almost forget the answer he made to me; it was some evasive answer—when the metropolitan policeman came, I asked the prisoner what business he had in my house—he told me he had slept in an easy chair—there was an easy chair in the bar parlour—one of my guests, Mr. Letts, had left a coat on that chair, and a handkerchief of mine was also left there—when I came down in the morning that coat and handkerchief were gone—I afterwards saw them in the possession of Murphy, the policeman at the station—I saw some cheroots taken from the prisoner's person—I cannot swear to cheroots, and he told me so—they were like some cheroots that I missed—I saw some envelopes taken from him; they were like some that I missed—I saw some pieces of ham taken from him—I cannot swear to them—there had been a bam left partly cut; the pieces looked as if they might have come from that—there were places below, in which the prisoner may have concealed himself.

Cross-examined. Q. You missed no money or plate? A. No—I should think there were near fifty persons at the dinner; it was an opening dinner on obtaining my licence—I had been in the house fifteen months—only those came who were invited—the whole of the persons who were in the room at 12 o'clock at night had been invited, with the exception of one or two—I knew the prisoner by sight, and by reputation—he is a public house broker; at least, he is an appraiser and auctioneer—I have known the name for five or six years—I have heard that he is a notoriously drunken character, and that he has had delirium tremens—I do not know it; I never drank with him—it was Mr. Goodwin that I saw him drinking with on this night—I do not recollect seeing him drinking with Mr. Timmings; Mr. Timmings was one of the party—I do not believe the prisoner would have stolen these things if he had been in a sober state—the fifty persons consisted of friends connected with the house, and also friends' friends—a small piece of cheese was taken out of the prisoner's pocket; it was the

same kind as the larger piece—he was very drunk—a coat was found, which he had left behind; that coat was torn off at the sleeve, the part that was torn was also found—I think the policeman took it out of the coat pocket that the prisoner had on—his own coat was not nearly as good as Mr. Letts'.

MR. RYLAND. Q. What state of drunkenness was he in when you first saw him about 12 o'clock? A. He was not drunk then—how he occupied himself between that time and the morning I do not know—I always thought him a respectable man, and holding a respectable position; I know his brother and mother.

COURT. Q. When he was brought back by the police had he the coat on? A. He had—he said nothing about it—it had been left on the arm chair where he said he had been sleeping—the potman found the old coat in the public parlour, not the parlour in which he was drinking with Mr. Goodwin—the coats were both dark; one was brown, and the other green, I think-perhaps the difference to a drunken man would not seem great.


Before Mr. Recorder.

Reference Number: t18550611-671

671. MONICH PETER CHRISTIAN , stealing 1 desk, value 30s.; the goods of Margaret Oliver: and 14 spoons, and other articles, value 6l.; the goods of Diana Oliver, in her dwelling house.

MR. DUNCAN conducted the Prosecution.

MARGARET OLIVER . I live at No. 5, Marlborough-place, Albany-rod, Camberwell, with my mother, Diana Oliver. On Wednesday, 23rd May, the prisoner came to our house—he took a bed room, and the use of a sitting room, which he was to have occasionally to himself—he took them by the week—he only stayed two days—he left without giving any notice—I was out when he left for a few minutes, and when I returned he was gone, and I missed my writing desk from the piano in the sitting room—when I went out I had left the prisoner sitting at the piano—the desk had a gold seal inside, and it was full of letters—I also missed the whole of the plate which had been in the plate basket—I had seen it safe about half an hour before in the back parlour—it contained eight tea spoons, two table spoons, one ladle, two. dessert spoons, one mustard spoon, two pairs of sugar tongs, all silver, and three forks and one table spoon plated—I immediately gave information to the police, and on the following Wednesday, the policeman, Frazer, came to my house—I went with him to No. 19, Southampton-street—I knocked at the door, and asked if they had a foreigner lodging there—they shut me into a room, and while I was at the window I saw the prisoner going out of the door down the garden in front of the house which led into the street—he was brought back by Frazer, immediately, to the gate, and he asked me if that was the man, and I said, "Yes"—when at the station, the prisoner said he had taken the desk and burnt the letters, and he had pawned the plate—he said he had pawned the seal—the policeman brought the desk from the house and produced it—this is it—it is mine, and the one I lost all the plate was my mother's—her name is Diana, she is a widow—the prisoner brought a box to our house, which was locked—the robbery was committed on Saturday morning—the prisoner hired the apartments on Wednesday, and he came on Thursday morning, the 24th.

DUNCAN FRAZER (policeman, P 34). I received information of this robbery, and as I was passing by No. 19, Southampton-street, I observed the prisoner sitting in the front window—the window was not open, but it was

very exposed—I thought he answered the description I had received, and I went and brought the last witness—she went and knocked at the doer and inquired for such a man—the prisoner must have caught sight of our going down the front garden—I saw him cross the road, running as fast as he could—I had seen Miss Oliver knock at the door; I stood round the corner in front of the house—I saw him come out of the house, and pass down the front garden—I went after him, and brought him back, and the prosecutrix identified him—I took him to Lock's-fields station, where Miss Oliver charged him with the robbery—she told him he was charged with robbing her of her writing desk, and several more robberies besides—she said that—the charges were read over to him—the inspector read the charge of Mrs. Oliver to him, and said, "Is that true?" and he said "That is right"—I found this desk in the house where the prisoner was taken, No. 19, Southampton-street—I went and asked Mrs. Griffiths for the desk, and she gave it to me—she is a lodger in the house.

COURT to MARGARET OLIVER. Q. When you got to the police station, what did you say? A. I told the prisoner he had stolen my desk, and all the plate out of the basket; he said, "Well, I know it"—I said, "You are charged with several other robberies"—the inspector read out the charge—he said, "That is all right."

Prisoner. Q. What time was the robbery committed? A. As near as I can tell, about 12 o'clock—I did not look at the time.

COURT. Q. What means have you of knowing the time 1 A. We have a clock in the parlour—I am not certain that I looked at it—I went immediately to the station—when I went out and left him there, I was not out more than ten minutes—when I returned, I found he was gone.

ROSA GRIFFITHS . I reside with my father at No. 19, Southampton-street, Camberwell—I have known the prisoner some little time—he has been in the habit of visiting at our house five or six months—I have seen. this desk—the prisoner made me a present of it on the Monday previous to his being taken, to the best of my knowledge—he said it was a desk he had had in his possession some time.

Prisoner. Q. What time was I there on Saturday? A. It might have been 12 o'clock—about the middle of the day.

GEORGE MARSOM . I am foreman to Mr. Dicker, a pawnbroker, Southampton-street, Camberwell On 26th May the prisoner came, and pawned ten table spoons, two dessert spoons, eight tea spoons, two pairs of sugar tongs, a mustard spoon, and a small sauce ladle, all silver; and three plated forks, two plated knife rests, one German silver salt spoon; and he left behind him a small child's knife and fork, of no value—I lent 4s. 11d. an ounce on the silver—the whole of the money was 3l. 10s.—these things were taken out on the following Wednesday, by a gentlemanly looking man, about the, middle of the day.

Prisoner. Q. What time were they pawned? A. To the best of my recollection, about a quarter past 2 o'clock, but I would not be certain to half an hour.

COURT. Q. What name did the prisoner give? A. Mr. Peter Monich Oliver.

(The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate was here read as follows: "I did pawn the articles named by Marsom, but they were not Miss Olivers.")

Prisoner's Defence. I acknowledge to have pledged the spoons, but they were given me by a gentleman, to be pledged on his own account, about 9

or 10 o'clock in the morning, a gentleman whom I know, who used to employ me to do his business; I have not at all seen Miss Oliver before; I have never been in her house.

MARGARET OLIVER re-examined. I have not the slightest doubt of the prisoner being the person—we lost a child's knife and fork, which was in the basket.


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672. MONICH PETER CHRISTIAN was again indicted for stealing I watch, and other articles, value 10l.; the goods of Thomas Vigus, in his dwelling house.

MR. DUNCAN conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS VIGUS . I live at No. 8, Lower Grosvenor-place, Pimlico. On 12th May the prisoner came to lodge at my place—I am sure he is the person—I have seen him several times—he said he had just come from Paris, and was staying at an hotel; he could not give a reference, but was quite willing to pay the money when demanded, and he hoped we would take him without—I let him an apartment weekly, and he came in the evening of the same day, and brought his box, and took possession—he stayed about fifteen or twenty minutes, and went away—(while he was there he was alone, up stairs)—after he was gone, I was called up by my cousin, and I missed from my own bedroom, which was the room below that he was to have had, a gold watch and chain, a seal, two gold bracelets, two gold rings, a hair bracelet, and from the room which he had hired, two large carved whale's teeth—this bracelet is one that I missed, and this ring—my wife wore the bracelet, but I am able to speak to it—I saw these things on the morning of that clay—my front door is closed against all strangers—it has an alarm bell attached to it—I got this ring and bracelet from the policeman—the prisoner gave the name of Edward Renapoint—I saw the box, which he brought to my house, opened, and it contained firewood—these articles are my property, and that was my dwelling house—the value of all I lost was about 15l.

ROSA GRIFFITHS . I live with my father at No. 19, Southampton-street—I have known the prisoner by the name of Oringo—he represented himself to me as an Italian—he gave me this ring and bracelet three weeks or a month before he was apprehended—I gave the same articles to the officer.

Prisoner. Where was I at half-past 7 o'clock on Saturday, the 12th May?.

Witness. I know he was in the habit of visiting me, but I cannot tell where he was then.

Prisoners Defence. Circumstances are against me; more than twenty persons at different times have been brought to identify me, but when near roe they have always begged pardon; what does this prove? that some other persons are similar to me, so similar, that Miss Griffiths has taken other persons for me; I met a gentleman in London, he asked me what countryman I was, and I told him; he offered to employ me, and I accepted it; if it had not been for my connection with Miss Griffiths I should have been away; this gentleman employed me to go and pawn things on his own account; I used to meet him at different places; I neither know his name nor his address; the last transaction I had with him was on the 23rd of May, about 9 o'clock in the morning; he gave me the plate to pawn, and told me to pawn it in the name of Oliver; I pawned it, and the pawnbroker gave me the money that he states; I went to the gentleman on Monday, and he gave me this desk; I gave the desk to Miss Griffiths; it is impossible for me to have committed this robbery, for I was with Miss Griffiths; she will tell you if my expenses have been excessive, and how

could I have committed such great robberies when there was in my possession when taken but 12s.? I hope God will direct you in your verdict, and that you, my judge, will be lenient to me; my lather's name has never been tarnished, and two of my brothers are officers in Paris; my Lord, have pity on me.

GUILTY . Aged 26.— Five Years' Penal Servitude.

(There were three other charges against the prisoner.)

Before Russell Gurney, Esq.

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673. JAMES COXHEAD , unlawfully wounding William Henry Brittle.

MR. METCALFE conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM BRITTLE , I live in John-street, York-road, Battersea. I was employed at Mr. Wallis's distillery two or three years—the prisoner was employed there also—on Easter Tuesday, 10th April, I went to the blacksmith's shop, where the prisoner was—he was rather the worse for liquor—he knocked my cap off—I asked him what vat he had been drinking out of? and I went up the Wider with the oil-can in my hand, to oil some machinery—he said to me, "Come down"—I went on, and he came up after me and seized me—I was obliged to drop the oil-can, to lay hold of the ladder with my other hand, and we both fell together and the ladder also—before the ladder fell, he laid hold of my collar and pulled me violently—he was not angry with me—when the ladder fell, I fell on a piece of iron and captured one of my kidneys—I fell very nearly a yard away from him.

(MR. BALLANTINE, for the, prisoner, expressed his sorrow for what had occurred, and stated that he had always borne a good character.)

GUILTY of a common assault.—Judgment Respited.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

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674. HENRY ROSENBERG , robbery on Mary Ann Wright, and stealing 10s. 6d., the moneys of George Wright.

MR. JEFF conducted the Prosecution.

MARY ANN WRIGHT . I am the wife of George Wright, and live at No. 28, Russell-street, Bermondsey. On Thursday, 7th June, about half-past 3 o'clock, I was in the New Out, Lambeth, with my mother—I met the prisoner and his young woman—I heard the prisoner say to his young woman, "There goes the b—cow that gave me the four months," and he ran up to me and struck me under the jaw, and his young woman struck me, and tore my dress—the prisoner then knocked me down—I tried to get up, and he threw himself upon me—I was then on the ground trying to get up, and he put his left hand in my pocket and tore my dress—I had a half sovereign and a sixpence in my pocket—I saw him take the money out of my pocket with his left hand, and he shoved it into his right hand, because I caught hold of his left hand, and he bit my left hand and arm—I said, "Give me my money," and he struck me and knocked me down, and said he had not got my money—he then got away from me, and I gave information to the police—I saw the prisoner in custody in about twenty minutes afterwards—I am quite sure he is the same man.

COURT. Q. How long have you known him? A. Only when he got the four months for stealing some washing from my mother—I was subpoenaed to go at that time, but I was not a witness.

Prisoner. Q. How long have you known me? A. About two years—I then lived with a female—I never walked with you to Waterloo-bridge—I have never drank with you, or been in a room with you—you robbed me the second time I was down—I hallooed "Stop thief!" and you ran away—

there were some young thieves there—I got this cut across my nose with a knife—I did not have you locked up at once because you ran away—you had your hand in ray pocket—I have never been in a fair with you—I was not drinking with a female named Brooks; she did not ask me to lend her 2d.—I did not tell her I had not got 2d.—I went into a public house to get change for a sixpence, but it was not my own sixpence—I was not in a beer shop in Waterloo-road, with a lot of prostitutes—I have not got my marriage certificate—I am married—I am not often out till 3 o'clock in the morning.

FREDERICK JENNINGS . I live at the King's Head, Long-lane, Bermondsey. On 7th June I was in the New Cut, Lambeth—I saw the prisoner and a young lady walking along—I saw the prisoner strike the last witness in the jaw, and knock her down—she got up again and he caught hold of her pocket and lifted her dress up—I am quite sure I saw him lift her dress up—she was standing up at that time—I did not hear her say anything—he then knocked her down again, close to a cart wheel—she got up again, and caught hold of his arm, and said, "You have got my money"—he seized her arm, and got away to a public house—I told a policeman, and I saw him afterwards in custody—the woman who was with the prisoner fell on the top of the prosecutrix, and tore her dress—when the prisoner seized the prosecutrix's pocket, she had been down and got up again.

Prisoner. Q. Which way did I go? A. You were going away from Blackfriars-road—I saw you coming along the New Cut—I saw this woman take her bonnet and shawl off, and gave them to a woman to hold—I did not see the two females fighting—I saw you strike this woman—I did not hear you say anything—you hit her in the jaw, and knocked her down, and when she got up again, you took hold of her pocket—I did not see You put your hand in her pocket—she caught hold of you, because you knocked her down—you went away from her about a yard—you did not touch her pocket the second time—you threw her down near a cart wheel—the first time you touched her pocket—she did not accuse you of robbing her the first time—you did not touch her pocket after she got up the second time—she took your hand, and said you had got her money, and you bit her arm—you stood a minute talking with her mother, and you struck her mother—I did not hear her mother use any bad language to you—you walked along with a boy, and went into a public house with him—you were dressed the same at you are now—you were a dozen yards from the public house when I saw you—I did not see a policeman talking to you—I did not hear this woman talk anything about sending anybody after you—I only heard her say you had got her money, and you said you had not get it—I was at the first examination—I went to the station—I was outside—they did not tell me to come to Stone's End—I told the policeman where I lived—he did not fetch me the first time.

CHARLES KENNEDY (policeman, L 181). I took the prisoner in Cornwall-road, on 7th June—I met him in the Cut first; but I did not know what had occurred—a few minutes after, I met the prosecutrix bleeding from the face and arm, and she told me that he had robbed her—I went to a public house, and a witness came and told me where he was—I found him in conversation with a private policeman—he ran off—I pursued, and took him—I told him the charge—I do not remember whether he said anything—I was so exhausted at the time.

(The prisoners statement before the Magistrate was read, as follows:

"I was going up the Cut, and met these persons; the mother said something, and turned up her nose, at me; the daughter wanted to fight the young woman that was with me; they fought about five minutes; I walked away; I know nothing of her money.").

Prisoner's Defence. I came out at 11 o'clock last Thursday morning; I went into the Pear Tree to have a pint of porter and a pipe of tobacco; I saw the prosecutrix in the Pear Tree drinking with several prostitutes; a female I was with said to me, "Are you coming home to dinner?" I said, "Come in, and I will go home to dinner;" we had two pints of porter, and I said, "I won't have dinner now, I will go and get something for tea;" I went out, and met these persons; they said, "There goes the b—fat;" I said, "I wonder what that is for?" this female pulled off her bonnet and shawl to fight the female with me; they fought, and fell down; I tried to part them; at last, I parted them; I do not say whether I pushed this female, but I did not strike her; I went to the Pear Tree, and there was a lot of persons; the policeman came and said, "What have you been doing?" I said, "Nothing;" I have seen this female in all sorts of company; I have said nothing to her; I know nothing of the robbery; she said she had a half sovereign and a sixpence; I had 9s. when I went out, and when I got home I had 5s. 6d.; the boy says I did not touch her pocket after she fell the second time, and that is the time that the says I committed the robbery; she accused this finale of robbing her; she said the female took up her dress, and I put my hand in; she prosecuted this female as well as me; I know nothing of her; I have been a bad character, but for the last fifteen months "I have been getting my living by hard work, by making gentlemen's travelling eases, or knapsacks.


(The prisoner was further charged with having been before convicted.)

WILLIAM WESTON (policeman, L 65). I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction—(read: Convicted at the Surrey Session on 11th April, 1853, and confined four months)—the prisoner is the person—I have known him for the last three yean; he is a regular associate of thieves, and always got his living by thieving.

GUILTY. Aged 22.— Four Years' penal Servitude.


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