CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.
MINUTES OF EVIDENCE,
Taken in Short-hand
JAMES DROVER BARNETT
33, Southampton-street, Strand.
SESSION I. TO SESSION VI.
GEORGE HEBERT, CHEAPSIDE.
TYLER & REED, PRINTERS, BOLT-COURT, FLEET-STREET.
On the Queen's Commission of the Peace,
OYER AND TERMINER, AND GAOL DELIVERY
The City of London,
AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE
COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND THE PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION
CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT,
Held on Monday, November 27th, 1848, and following Days.
Before the Right Hon. Sir JAMES DUKE , Knt., LORD MAYOR of the City of London; The Right Hon. Thomas Lord Denman, Lord Chief Justice of Her Majesty's Court of Queen's Bench; Sir Thomas Coltman, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; William Thompson, Esq., M. P.; Sir Peter Laurie, Knt.; Sir Chapman Marshall, Knt.; and Michael Gibbs, Esq., Aldermen of the said City: the Hon. Charles Ewan Law, M. P., Recorder of the said City: William Hunter, Esq.; Francis Graham Moon, Esq.; David Salomons, Esq.; and William Lawrence, Esq.; Aldermen of the said City: John Mirehouse, Esq., Common-Serjeant of the said City; and Edward Bullock, Esq., Judge of the Sheriffs' Court: Her Majesty's—. Justices of Oyer and Terminer and Gaol Delivery of Newgate holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.
THOMAS QUESTED FINNIS, Esq.,
JACOB EMANUEL GOODHART, Esq.,
JAMES EDWARD SHEARMAN, Esq.
GEORGE TAMPLIN, Esq.
LIST OF JURORS.
CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.
DUKE, MAYOR. FIRST SESSION.
A star (*) denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—Two stars (**) that they have been more than once in custody—An obelisk (†) that they are known to be the associates of bad characters.
LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES.
OLD COURT.—Monday, November 27th, 1848.
PRESENT—The Right Hon. the LORD MAYOR; Mr. Ald. GIBBS; Mr. RECORDER; Mr. Ald. WILLIAM HUNTER; Mr. Ald. CHALLIS; and Mr. Ald. MOON.
Before Mr. Recorder and the First Jury.
JAMES BATTLEBURY . I am in the employ of Thomas Tillman, a tailor, of 200, Whitechapel-road, in the parish of St. Mary, Whitechapel, it is his dwelling-house. On 1st Nov., about half-past six o'clock, the prisoner came in, said, "Good evening," took up eight lengths of cloth, and ran out—I am lame, and before I could get up he was half way out of the shop—I called, "Stop thief!" but could not find a policeman—a parcel of boys surrounded me—I afterwards recognized him at the Mansion-house—I know him by his cap and dress, and also by his features—this is like the cap (produced)—I was discharged in consequence, as it was thought I had a hand in it, but have been taken back.
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Seven Years.
NEW COURT.—Monday, November 27th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. MOON and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Edward Bullock Esq. and the Fifth Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 13.— Confined Six Months.
NEIGHBOUR pleaded GUILTY . Aged 39.
GRANT pleaded GUILTY Aged 26.
Confined Four Months.
GUILTY . Aged 15.— Confined Six Months.
GEORGE CARTER . I am in Mr. Hitchcock's employ. On 9th Oct., about four in the day, I was in the stable, and saw the prisoner go to the place where the potatoes were, pull down a board, pull out some potatoes, put them into a basket, and fill his pockets with them. and go away—he afterwards said to me, "You must be wide awake if you live with Mr. Hitchcock"—I left four days afterwards—Mr. Hitchcock came to me and said he had missed potatoes—I told him who took them.
JOHN LONG . I was working for Mr. Hitchcock. On 9th Oct., near five o'clock, the prisoner was working there—I am his step-son—I saw him take a few potatoes out of a hole and put them into bis pocket—he did not take near a pocketfull—Carter was in the other stable.
Prisoner's Defence. I picked up a few which fell out of a hole; it is only done out of spite.
NOT GUILTY .
RICHARD LE BAS . I am a coal-merchant, of Hillingdon. I had some beans in a loft over a shed in my yard—I last saw them safe on Monday, 20th Nov., between four and five o'clock, when I went to close the loft door—a person spoke to me, and I went on the Wednesday and missed something less than a bushel of the beans and a sack—this sack and beans are mine—they were old beans, and insects had got into them—the prisoner has been occasionally employed in unloading the boats—he knew my premises perfectly well.
STEPHEN MASTERS (policeman, T 199). I was on duty on Uxbridgemoor on 21st Nov., a few minutes before five o'clock—I saw the prisoner coming from the direction of the prosecutor's premises towards his own home with something on his shoulder which he threw away before he came to me—he passed me—I went and found this sack with nearly a bushel of beans—I took them, and then the prisoner—he denied all knowledge of the beans—I have known him perfectly well for years—it was not very dark—no other person passed me.
GUILTY . Aged 35.— Confined. Six Months.
GEORGE LANE. I am a draper, of Uxbridge. On 28th Sept., between eleven and twelve o'clock, the prisoner brought this order, and said he brought it from his mother—I let him have a pair of shoes and a coat—I sent the account to his mother by my young man, about a fortnight afterwards.
Cross-examined by Mr. COOPER. Q. Where did he live? A. About a mile and a half from me—I had seen him once before, with his mother—I sent Clarence for the money—he is not here.
RICHARD ROADKNIGHT (police-sergeant, T 11). I took the prisoner—he said he did not write the note, nor his mother, neither of them could write, that a man named Smith wrote it—I found the shoes at his lodging, and the duplicate for the coat.
ELIZABETH PUTNEY . I am the wife of William Flitney. The prisoner is my son—I told him to get these things—this note is not my writing—I cannot write—I do not know whether I told anybody to write it—I told my son he might have the things—I should have paid for them.
NOT GUILTY .
GUILTY . Aged 52.— Confined Four Months.
AARON HART . On 17th Nov. my brother, who is my partner, told me something—I went into my warehouse, and saw the prisoner about to leave—my brother said to him, "Robertson, I miss a pair of cloth boots, you must know something about them"—he said, "It is no use denying it, I have taken them; it is the first time I did anything of the sort"—we sent for a policeman, and just before he came the prisoner took a pair of women's boots from his pocket—when we got to the station, he put his hand behind him, and said, "Here is another pair that I have, I hope you will be merciful, it is my first offence"—these are the boots—they are mine and my brother's.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Was not what he said that he hoped you would not be hard with him? A. They were nearly the words—I did not recollect them before—he has a wife and four children—I am of the Jewish persuasion; the prisoner is not—he would only have five days' work in a week with me—he said before the Magistrate that he had taken the boots for samples, as he thought he should be able to do something on Saturdays if he took samples.
ALEXANDER SANDERSON (City-policeman, 70). I was called, and saw the prisoner standing with a pair of boots in his hand—he said it was the first time he bad ever done anything of the kind, and begged for mercy—at the station he handed over this other pair of boots to Mr. Hart.
Cross-examined. Q. What day of the week was this? A. On Friday, about ten minutes before four o'clock, just about the time that persons of the Jewish persuasion would leave off business.
GUILTY . Aged 37.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury.— Confined Four Months.
EAST * pleaded GUILTY . Aged 15.
HUMPHRIES * pleaded GUILTY . Aged 16.
Confined Six Months.
JOHN WEBB . I am in the service of Mr. James Morris, a baker, at Uxbridge. On 3rd Nov., about one o'clock in the day, I was on Uxbridge-common, and left my barrow at agate, with two quartern and sis half-quartern loaves in it; and went into a house to serve a customer—I was away six or
seven minutes—I came back, and missed one quartern and three half-quartern leaves—Boddington afterwards produced some bread—it was my master's.
WILLIAM BODDINGTON . I am a carpenter. I was on Uxbridge-common—I met the prosecutor and another—I cannot be positive of Burrell—one of them threw a half-quartern loaf pulled in two, over into a plantation—I got over and got it, and gave it to Webb.
Burrell. I was not there. Witness. You were—I knew you before.
WILLIAM BEFCHY (policeman. T 182). On 3rd Nov., about two o'clock, I saw the three prisoners together near the market-place, Uxbridge—as soon as they saw me they ran away—I ran and took East and Humphries—East said he knew nothing about the bread—Humphries said he meant to pay for it at night.
BURRELL— NOT GUILTY .
JAMES BOWMAN . I am cellarman to Mr. William Manoah Chambers, and his partner. On 17th June the prisoner came to the window at half-past seven in the morning—we had some sherry in the cellar—I went up stairs, came down again. and missed six or seven bottles of it—the prisoner was then in front of the house—I asked him if he had taken any of the wine—he said, "No"—there was another person with him.
Cross-examined. Q. How many were there altogether? A. Four, I, Duck, and the prisoner, and another were cleaning the windows—there were persons in the top of the house—my masters were not come to town.
HENRY DUCK . I was spoken to about this wine—I saw the prisoner, who was cleaning the windows, come down about half-past eight o'clock, and go across the warehouse into the cellar with a basket—I followed him towards a bin where the wine was, and was putting it on the bin—I said, "Don't put it there; put it on this cask"—he took eight bottles out of the basket, one by one, and put them on the cask, then went up again and began to clean the windows—a policeman came, and we marked the bottles with ink—Mr. Chambers afterwards sent them away, as the wine was sold.
Cross-examined. Q. This was six moths ago? A. Yes—the other man who was with the prisoner went away and left the prisoner there.
NOT GUILTY .
OLD COURT.—Tuesday, November 28th, 1848.
PRESENT—Sir PETER LAURIE, Knt.; Mr. RECORDER; and Mr. Ald. MOON.
Before Mr. Recorder and the Second Jury.
13. SARAH HUXFORD , stealing a leather-bag, value 4d., four sove-reigns, 6 half-sovereigns, I crown, 16 half-crowns, 14 shillings, and 6 pence; the property of Robert Reeve, in his dwelling-house; and HENRY GOODSON , feloniously meaning the same to which
HUXFORD pleaded GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years.
ROBERT REEVE . I live at 10, Old Fish-street, Doctors'-commons. On 28th Oct. I had 11l. 12s. 6d. in a box in my bed-room—I was fetched home from work about seven o'clock, and it was gone—Huxford was employed in my house that day cleaning the place—her sister was in my service.
MARY ANN REEVE . I missed the money as soon as Huxford left, a little after five on 28th Oct.—I have seen Goodson in my place when we lived next door, but not in this house—he is a picture-frame maker—I had told Huxford on Friday that Mr. Reeve had got his rent money, and was going to pay it next morning, but we had not enough by 1s. 3d. to do so—the box in which the money was kept was not locked.
SAMUEL MARTIN . I keep the Forester's Arms beer-shop, in Union-street, Borough. Goodson was my waiter for nearly three months—he left me of his own accord, on 23rd Oct.—he came back on 28th, and saw my wife—I was not present—he came on Sunday the 29th, about ten o'clock, and said he had met with a friend who had lent him a few pounds, and gave me 2l.—he owed me about 1l. 14s.—I gave him an I O U for it—the officer came and apprehended him that same night, about a quarter to twelve—I went to the door to see what was the matter—Goodson put out his hand, and some money dropped from it which the officer picked up—Huxford had come to the house with him, but had gone out at the time the officer came—they had been up stairs in the club-room—a number of other persons were there—during the time Goodson lived with me I had seen Huxford there several times, but I did not know that there was any particular intimacy between them.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Has Goodson borne a good character? A. He has—when the money dropped from his hand he was holding it out to me, but I did not take it, and it fell.
JOHN STOREY (City-policeman, 414). I went with Mr. and Mrs. Reeve to Martin's beer-shop, on Sunday night, 29th Oct., about twelve o'clock—I saw Huxford come out with another female, and go to an oyster-shop—I then went in, and took Goodson—in coming out, he took some money out of his pocket, and endeavoured to pass it to the landlord—it dropped in the street—I picked it up—it was four half-sovereigns, and a sovereign he had in his hand—I found on him this I O U for 2l. and 1s. 8d., in copper—he struggled, and tried to get away—Huxford came up, and passed 1s. to another female which I took out of her hand—I asked Goodson at the station where he had got the money from—he said he had picked up a purse in one of the recesses on London-bridge with 5l. in it—he afterwards said it was 6l. 13s.—I was present when he was under examination before the late Lord Mayor, and made a statement—this is the Lord Mayor's signature—the prisoner also signed it, but I am not sure that I saw him do so—the part that is printed was also read over to him—(read—"Henry Goodson saith as follows: I have kept company with her a long while; on Saturday night we stopped out together, and going over London-bridge in the morning I picked up in one of the recesses an old green purse with 6l. 13s. in it, and we were so pleased that we would not go home, and we went to enjoy ourselves a little, and then I went to Mr. Martin's as usual; I had not been there a great while when the officer came, and took me into custody; in coming down stairs I took the money out of my waistcoat-pocket to give to Mr. Martin to take care of it for me, and it dropped down; that is all I know about it."
(Goodson received a good character.)
NOT GUILTY .
GUILTY . Aged 26.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Six Months.
JOSEPH MARK . I live at 56, Cornwall-road. On 18th Nov., I saw the prisoner, and a younger one at the corner of Farringdon-market—the young one drew a piece of velvet from Mr. Couchman's door—the prisoner opened his coat and received it—I collared him, he struck me in the eye, and dropped the velvet in the scuffle—he said he picked it up, and was going to take it into the shop—the other got away.
GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . ** Aged 20.— Transported for Ten Years.
17. WILLIAM WALKER was indicted for embezzling 8l. 8s. 3d.; the moneys of Charles Shaw, his master: also, unlawfully obtaining by false pretences a check for the payment of 55l. 2s., with intent to defraud Charles Shaw; to which he pleaded GUILTY . Aged 28.— Confined Eighteen Months.
NEW COURT.—Tuesday, Nov. 28th, 1848.
PRESENT—Sir PETER LAURIE, Knt., Ald.; Sir CHAPMAN MARSHALL, Knt., Ald.; Mr. Ald. GIBBS; Mr. Ald. MOON; and Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Sixth Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Nine Months.
MESSRS. ELLIS and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
FREDERICK RAYNER . I keep an eating-house, in Broad-street, Ratcliffe. On 7th Oct., the prisoner came between seven and eight o'clock for a quarter of a pourd of meat—it came to 3d.—he offered me a bad crown—I did not find it to be had, and put it into ray pocket where I had no other, and gave the prisoner change—he went away—in ten minutes, or a quarter of an hour my wife came into the parlour, and brought me a crown-piece, and asked me to give change—I thought it was bad, took it to the prisoner in my shop, and told him it was bad—I gave it him, and told him he was the man who tendered the first—he said he was not, he never was in the shop before—I gave him into custody, and gave the first crown to the policeman.
me a 5s. piece—I went into the parlour to my husband to get change for it—he tried it with his teeth, came with me to the shop, and told the prisoner it was bad, and that he was the man that had passed the first crown—he said he did not know it was bad, and he had never been in the shop before—a policeman was sent for, and he was taken into custody.
MORRIS LANE (policeman, K 397). I took the prisoner for passing two bad crown pieces—he denied uttering the first, and said he had never been in the shop—I found on him this crown-piece—this other was given me by Mr. Raynor.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined One Year ,
MESSRS. ELLIS and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
FRANCIS pleaded GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Nine Months.
JOSEPH SMITH . I am a grocer, and live in Union-street, Hackoey-road. On 27th Oct., the prisoner Bland came to my shop a little before eleven o'clock in the morning for a quarter of an ounce of tobacco—I served him—he tendered me a bad sixpence—I noticed that it was bad, and I bent it a little—I told him that would not do for me—he said he had taken it at a pawnbroker's in Shoreditch, where he had pledged a handkerchief, and he must take it back directly—I let him take it, and he gave me a good sixpence—I gave him change, and be left—my little girl spoke to me, and I went out and saw Bland about two doors from my house—he went round the corner and joined Francis who was standing still, and appeared to be waiting for him—I followed them—they went to a pawnbroker's shop in Hackney-road—Bland went up a passage by the side of the shop—Francis went on a little way, and waited for him—Bland came out of the passage, and they went on—I followed them to a shop kept by Crisp in Maria-street—Bland went in there, and Francis waited outside—Bland came out, they joined in company, and went to Huntingdon-street, to a shop kept by Goddard—Francis went in there, and Bland watted outside under an archway—they joined again—I continued to follow them to a good many shops—they at last went to Mr. Aylin's—I told an officer, and I went in there with him—I found Francis there—I secured him, and the officer went after Bland—he brought him back, and they were taken to the station.
Bland. Q. Did I go into the shop in Maria-street? A. Yes, and you offered me a bad sixpence—I gave you the sixpence back—I marked it with my nail when I tried it on the counter—this is it—here is my mark.
MARY CRISP . I am a widow, and keep a tobacconist's shop in Maria-street. On the 27th Oct., Bland came for a quarter of an ounce of tobacco, and gave me a sixpence—I gave him change and put the sixpence into the till—there was no other sixpence there—Mr. Smith came and told me something—I looked at the sixpence and found it was bad—no one had been to the till in the mean time—I gave the sixpence to the policeman.
MARY HOUSE . I assist Mr. Goddard, who keeps a shop in Huntingdon-street. On 27th Oct. Francis came to the shop for a quarter of an ounce of tobacco—he gave me a sixpence; I gave him 5 1/4 d. in change—I put the sixpence into the till, there was no other there—my daughter came in in about ten minutes, and said, "Mother you have taken a bad sixpence"—no one had been to the till in the meantime.
ROSETTA GODDARD . I had been serving in the shop that morning—I went up stairs for five or ten minutes—when I came clown I found only one sixpence in the till, and it was is bad one—I sand, "Mother you have taken a bad sixpence"—I give the sixpence to the officer—this is it.
Bland's Defence. I pawnel a handkerchief for 2s.; on 27th Oct. I was going to market; I went into the shop for a quarter of an ounce of tobacco; the man refused the sixpence, and I gave him a good one; I went out and went down the Hickney-road; I met Francis; he walked with me; he went into the shop in Maria-street; it was not me.
Francis. This man knows no more of the base coin than a stranger; I went into the shop in Maria-street myself.
BLAND— GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined One Year .
ROBERT SAUNDERSON . I keep the Black Horse, in Poplar. On 25th Oct. the prisoner came to my house, about a quarter-past eight o'clock in the evening—she brought a jug, asked for half a pint of sixpenny ale, and tendered me a counterfeit crown-piece—I did not then think it was bad, and gave her change—I put the crown into the till—there was no other crown there—in about three minutes after she left—I looked at the crown again, and discovered it was bad—I went in pursuit of the prisoner, but could not find her—I returned, and put a mark on the crown-piece—I kept it apart from other money, and ultimately gave it to the officer—the prisoner was not in my place more than three minutes—I had an opportunity of seeing her features—I do not remember that I had seen her before—I saw her again about seventeen days afterwards—she was not then in custody, but was in the street at large—Mr. Bottjer asked me to come over and look at her—I went, and said that was the woman—she was going away from the house—I went in front of her, and recognised her as the person—I have not the slightest doubt that she is the person.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Mr. Bottjer lives just opposite you? A. Yes—when I came, he asked me it the prisoner was the person, he had hold of her arm—I said she was the person who passed the crown at my place—it was on 25th Oct. she passed it at my house, and on 11th Nov. Mr. Bottjer sent for me—there were from fourteen to twenty persons close by the spot.
MR. BODKIN. Q. When you first saw her on 11th Nov., had anybody hold of her? A. No—after that I saw Mr. Bottjer take hold of her arm—when I saw her face, I recognised her, and said, "That is the woman that passed a bad 5s. piece at my house"—I believe I said that loud enough for her to hear me—I was within four feet of her—she said she was quite confident, or something to that effect, that I had never seen her before.
JOHN MAWSON I am a grocer, in High-street, Poplar. On Thursday, 2nd Nov., the prisoner came to my shop—I am sure she is the same person—I had never seen her before to my knowledge—she bought half a pound of sugar. winch came to 2d.—she gave me a 3s. piece—I gave her change, and put the crown into the till—there was other silver there, but no other 5s. piece—next day I offered it with souk oilier money, and it was refused—I
then found it was bad—I afterwards gave it to the policeman—I saw the prisoner at the station on 21st Nov.—I was taken to look at her.
FRANCES PHILLIPS . I am the wife of Robert Matthew Phillips, a green-grocer, of Greenfield-street, Commercial-road. On 4th Nov., at half-past nine o'clock in the evening, the prisoner came for a bunch of greens—she offered me half a crown, I had no change—she took a penny herring, and left the greens—I am quite sure she is the same person—I was in conversation with her five minutes—I got her 2s. 5d. change—I put the half-crown into my pocket, where I had no more money whatever—I gave it the next day to a person in Spitalfields-market, and found it was bad—I took it home, and gave it to my husband.
Cross-examined. Q. Where did you next see the prisoner? A. At the station—when I saw her, it gave me a bit of a turn to see her there again—I did not shake my head to intimate that she was not the person—the officer brought her from the cell—she had an apron up to her mouth, and the policeman pulled it down—I most likely went to a public-house afterwards, but not with the policeman.
COURT. Q. Are you sure she was the woman? A. Yes I am.
GERD BOTTJER . I am a grocer and cheesemonger. On 11th Nov. the prisoner came for half a quartern of shilling butter, and paid me with a counterfeit 6d.—I told her it was bad, and. I broke it in her presence—I asked her how she dared to offer such a coin to me, I was certain she knew it was bad—she said she was not aware it was bad, and complained a great deal about my breaking the sixpence—she interrupted me in my business, and I told her to leave and get away as quickly as possible, or I should give her in charge—I sent for Mr. Saunderson; he came over—I asked him if he knew anything about her—he said, "That is the very person that passed the counterfeit crown to me"—I would not be certain whether she said anything, but some one said, "How can he say it is the same person because she had a mug in her hand?"—Wood, the officer, came, and took her into custody.
Cross-examined. Q. She said she wondered at your impudence in accusing her of anything of the kind? A. Yes—I had heard that Mr. Saunders had taken a crown-piece, and when he came, I took hold of her arm—he said she was the person.
MR. BODKIN. Q. When you broke the sixpence, what did you do? A. I gave her the pieces back—she was not given into custody in the shop, she went outside.
HENRY WOOD (police-sergeant, K 23). I took the prisoner into custody outside of Mr. Bottjer's shop—I asked her what she had done with the sixpence—she said she had flung it away—I produce this crown, which I received from Mr. Saunders.
Cross-examined. Q. Was she searched? A. Yes; and a good sixpence and three farthings were found on her.
MR. PAYNE called
prisoner lived with me four or five weeks—her health was very had—if I had known she had been in a bad state of health—I would not have taken her—she did needlework for me—she went, out while she was with me; she was out on Friday the 10th Nov., and on the Saturday when she was taken—I could not tell whether she was out on the 2nd or 4th of Nov.—she was able to go out—Mr. Saunderson's, the Black Horse, is a long way from my house.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 30.— Confined One Year .
JOHANNA M'CAULIFFE . I live at the Crown and Seven Stars, in Rosemary-lane. On 3rd Nov. the prisoner came for a cup of coffee, and offered me a shilling—I told him I had only got ninepence, and he drank two more cups of coffee—I then gave him the ninepence—I took the shilling to a public-house and called for a quartern of rum—they told me it was a bad shilling—I put it into my pocket and kept it till I met the police-sergeant, and gave it him—I am sure I had no other shilling.
MARGARET LAGAROWICH . My husband is at sea, my mother lives at Wapping. On 6th Nov. the prisoner came and called for a cup of coffee and an egg—it came to twopence-halfpenny—he gave me a bad sixpence—I cut it with a knife—I called a policeman and gave him the sixpence—he took the prisoner into custody.
FREDERICK MARSHALL (policeman, H 179). I took the prisoner and received this sixpence—the prisoner refused to let me search him, and be made his escape—I followed him and caught him in Dock-street, about a hundred yards off—I took him to the station.
GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined One Year .
MESSRS. BODKIN and DAWSON conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN STEVENS . I keep a general-shop in Boswell-court. On 7th Nov. the prisoner came for a quarter of a pound of sugar, which came to 1 3/4 d.—she laid down a half-crown on the counter, and I gave her change—she left the shop—in about ten minutes I looked at the half-crown; it was bad—no person had been in my shop in the interval—I put the half-crown apart from other money—in a few days I got information and gave it to Dyer at the police-court.
Prisoner. I never was in his shop; I do not know where it is. Witness. I am quite sure she is the person—I have not the slightest doubt of it.
ELIZABETH ANN BRETT . My mother keeps a shop in New North-street, Red Lion-square. On 10th Nov. the prisoner came there for a half-quartern loaf—she had come about five minutes previous for change for a shilling—she gave me a good shilling and I gave her two good sixpences—that was between six and seven o'clock—she then came for the loaf and gave me a half-crown—I examined it; it was bad—I gave it to my mother—the prisoner offered to go and get it changed—my mother would not allow her to do that,
but kept her in the shop—my mother asked her where she lived—she refused to tell—an officer was sent for, and he took her into custody—I gave the half-crown to the officer.
Prisoner's Defence. I was not in Mr. Stevens' shop.
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Six Months.
EMILY LANGDALE . My mother keeps a shop near Piccadilly. On 16th Nov. a person came there and asked for a biscuit—to the best of my recollection it was the prisoner—I served him—he put down a sixpence on the counter—I put it amongst the halfpence in the till—there was no other sixpence where I put it—my mother afterwards came and discovered it was a bad one.
MARY ANN LANGDALE . I remember the prisoner coming for a biscuit, on 16th Nov.—I am positive he is the person—my daughter served him, and he paid her a sixpence—soon afterwards I had occasion to go to the till—I observed the sixpence with the halfpence; it was the only sixpence there—it was apart from all other silver—I found it was bad—I wrapped it in paper and put it at the back of the till—in less than an hour the prisoner came again for a biscuit and some cheese—he gave me a half-crown—I examined it and took it in my hand—I opened the till, and said, "I don't think I can give you change"—I recollected him to be the person who came in with the sixpence—I knew him when he was looking in at the window—I walked round the counter with the half-crown in. my hand, and when I got very near him 1 said, "I don't think this is good"—he said, "Yes it is; if you don't like it I will give you halfpence"—I said, "This is the second time you have been here to-night passing bad money"—he tried to leave the shop—I prevented him by holding his coat—he got out and gave a sudden jerk—the piece of his coat that I had hold of, came off, and he ran away—he was brought back in about five minutes by Wright the officer—I gave Wright the two pieces of bad money.
JAMES WRIGHT (policeman, A 312). I took the prisoner—I have the half-crown and the sixpence—the prisoner was running in Well-street—there was a piece off the breast of his coat—he stated that he had not been in any shop at all.
Prisoner's Defence. I know no more about the sixpence than a man that never saw it.
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined One Year .
MESSRS. ELLIS and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
ANN EVANS . My husband keeps a shop in Gray's-inn-lane. On 20th Nov. the prisoner came, about ten o'clock in the evening, for half an ounce of tobacco—it came to 1 1/2 d.—he paid me a half-crown, which I put into the till; I had no other there—before I put it in I had shown it to my husband.—he did not perceive that it was bad, nor did I—I gave the prisoner change—the half-crown remained in the till till the Wednesday morning, when I took it out, and gave it to my husband to pay away—he came back and gave me the half-crown, and 1 nailed it to the counter—it remained there till the Thursday, when the policeman took it off—on the Thursday
afternoon the prisoner came for a quarter of in ounce of tobacco; he gave me a sixpence—I looked at it, and told him I thought it was bad—he said if it was bad he did not know it; and he said a lady gave it him for carrying. 1 parcel to the omnibus—I gave the sixpence to my little boy, who carried it to his father—he came back with a sixpence, and gave it me—the prisoner said it I would let him go, he would make it up—I pointed to the half-crown on the counter, and told him he had passed that—I sent for the officer, and give him the half-crown and sixpence—I knew the prisoner was the man that passed the half-crown directly he came into the shop—I would not let my husband serve him; I served him myself, because I remembered him.
Prisoner. I was not in her shop on the Monday; I did not give the halfcrown. Witness. I am sure he is the man—he did not disown it when I showed it him on the counter.
JOHN EDWARD EVANS . I was in my parlour on the Monday—I could not say that the prisoner was the man that came into my shop. On the Wednesday morning I received a half-crown from my wife; it was not taken—I brought it back, and gave it to my wife—it was nailed to the counter—it was the same I had taken of her.
Prisoners Defence. The first time I went into the shop was on the Thursday; I gave her a sixpence for half an ounce of tobacco; I had just taken it for carrying a parcel for a lady; I was not into the shop on the Monday; I had not a halfpenny till the Wednesday.
GUILTY . Aged 45.— Confined One Year .
GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined Nine Months.
JAMES MELVIN . On 15th Oct., at half-past six o'clock in the morning, I was on the top of one of the prosecutor's buildings—I saw the prisoner removing this lead—I called to him and said, "I have caught you, have I?"—he was about fifty yards from the building, carrying this lead before him.
Prisoner. He said, "That is the lead I saw on the top;" I said, "There it is," throwing it on one side; it was not off the premises; the other boy employed me to take it.
THOMAS CAMPION (policeman, A 358). I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction at Clerkenwell, by the name of John North—(read, "Convicted January, 1817, confined three months")—he is the person.
GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined One Year .
28. WILLIAM CREMAR , feloniously receiving 18 gallons of beer and 1 cask, value 14s.; also 18 gallons of beer and I cask, value 14s.; the goods of Sir Henry Meux and another; (see vol. xxviii. page 765;) to which he pleaded
GUILTY .—Recommended to marcy by the Prosecutor.— Confined One Year .
OLD COURT.—Wednesday, November 29th, 1848.
PRESENT—The Lord Mayor; Lord Chief Justice DENMAN; Mr. Ald. GIBBS; Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE; and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq., and the Third Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 59.— Confined Twelve Months.
FREDERICK LINTOT pleaded GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years.
MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM THOMAS BLAKE . I am shopman to Messrs. Rigby and Co., of 80, Gracechurch-street, brush-makers. We have a warehouse in Bull's Head-passage, in which brushes and articles of that kind are kept—it is over a butcher's shop, occupied by Charles Lintot, the prisoners' brother—having missed brushes on several occasions, on 14th Nov. I and the officer Davis placed ourselves to watch the premises on a shelf about six feet above a hole is the boards, where we suspected an entrance had been made from the butcher's shop—the board was down, so that for anybody to get in they must slide or lift it up—about half-past ten o'clock I heard a noise in that direction, and noticed a part of the flooring being raised—I did not see anybody get through the hole; it was too dark—I—heard a footstep go up stairs—I then spoke to Davis, and got down from the shelf, and went to the hole—Davis turned his light on, and I saw Benjamin Lintot with his head just above the hole—Davis tried to seize him, but he dropped down, and Davis fell in trying to catch him—he got up again, and followed him.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Had you any means of distinctly seeing who it was at the hole? A. No—it was quite dark till Davis turned on his light—I then saw Benjamin Lintot distinctly—I had a full view of him, and have no doubt he is the person.
Cross-examined. Q. Were either of them in your service? A. Frederick was for about four years—I discharged him for coining late in the morning—I have heard that his father was once in a large way of business.
JOHN DAVIS (City-policeman, 551). I was watching with Blake—I turned my light on a head that came up the hole—it was Benjamin Lintot—I got on the ladder to secure him—he got down, and I got down after him—the ladder moved, and I fell—I went after him, and secured him—he made no remark—I gave him to another man, returned, and found Frederick—I afterwards searched Benjamin's premises, and found these brushes—(produced).
MR. RIGBY re-examined. I cannot swear to the brushes—they are such as were in my warehouse.
BENJAMIN LINTOT— GUILTY . Aged 32.— Transported for Seven Years. (There was another indictment against the prisoners.)
31. JONAS HAYNES was indicted for a robbery, with violence, on Catherine Bissett, and stealing a bag, I handkerchief, I purse, and 1 glove, value 5s.; 1 half-crown, 1 sixpence, and an order for the payment of 50l.; her property.
MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.
CATHERINE BISSETT . I am single, and live at 11, Gloucester-terrace, Kensington-gate. On the afternoon of 3rd Nov., at ten minutes before one o'clock, I was coming through Kensington-gardens, along the flower-walk, which is the most public walk in the gardens, between Mount-gate and Kensington, abutting on the park-railings—I had a reticule tied very tightly round my left wrist, containing a 50l. and a 10l. check, a half-crown, a sixpence, and a small bill of my poulterer's—there was a small alcove in the gardens, which I had passed some yards—I had not seen any one in it but a woman, whose appearance I did not like—I did not hear any footstep after passing the alcove, but I felt a tremendous blow on the right shoulder, which knocked me flat on the ground, and when I was down I saw a man, who I most solemnly declare before God, is the prisoner, stoop over me—I held the reticule very tight, but after a struggle the string broke, and he got it off my wrist—as it was turned topsey turvey one of the checks dropped out—he dropped a black glove of his own, which the park-keeper picked up—I am now suffering so much from the effects of the violence, that it is with the greatest pain I give my evidence—my arm was bruised.
Cross-examined by MR. HUDDLESTONE. Q. You saw no person till you were knocked down? A. No—the blow was not sufficient to stun me—I was not frightened because I have great presence of mind—I was very much agitated at the thoughts of losing my money—I did not feel the blow at all though it knocked me down—I will be just to the prisoner; he did not hurt me after I was down, he only struggled to get the bag—if he had wished to kill me, he might have done it in a moment—the string broke in a very short time—I gave immediate information to the park-keeper—I heard the prisoner was in custody when the policeman came in the evening; he asked if I was the lady that had been robbed—Mr. Herries, the bankers' clerk, said they had the man in custody, and when I went to the police-office the prisoner was there—that was between two and three o'clock the next day.
MOSES BENJAMIN . I am foreman to Mr. Myers, clothier, of Wigmore-street. On Friday, 3rd Nov., about two o'clock, the prisoner came there to purchase a suit of clothes—they came to 6l. I think—he produced a 50l. check to pay for them—I asked him where he got it—he said his mistress had given it him in part payment for his wages, and he had to receive a certain portion, he intended to get the cheque changed, and to return the other—I was not satisfied, and called Mr. Myers, and gave him the cheque—he took a cab down to St. James's, to learn something about the cheque—I kept the prisoner there during that time—he was then given into custody—I noticed that he had only one glove, that was a dark one—on the following evening I found this purse under our show-board.
JAMES HANDLEY (policeman, D 199). I took the prisoner into custody at Mr. Myers' shop—I asked him where he got the check from—he said he should not answer me any questions—he had only one glove—that was found in his pocket—this is it—the other glove was given me by the park-keeper—the two correspond—I also produce the purse.
Cross-examined. Q. Did he afterwards say he had picked up the check in the gardens? A. In the park.
GUILTY . Aged 26.— Transported for Fifteen Years.
Before Lord Chief Justice Denman.
MESSRS. CLARKSON and SIR JOHN BAYLEY conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN HITCHES . In Oct. last, I was barman at Mr. Potter's, the White Horse, High-street, Shoreditch. I usually go by the name of George—I had known the prisoner by sight, for about three months before 25th Oct. last—I have seen him at our house several times—on 25th Oct., I noticed him leaning against the counter there at nearly three o'clock—he was in one of the boxes with which the bar is fitted up—there was a man with him in the same box—they were there when I came down from dinner, and about five minutes after that the prisoner spoke to me, and said, "George I want you, I have something to show you"—he said that gently—I asked him what it was, and he said it was a note—I did not see anything in his hand at the time—I asked him what it was about, if he could not read it—he said it was a 5l.-note, and if I would come outside he would show it me—I said, "I could not come out I had my business to attend to"—he then spoke to the man with him, and I afterwards explained to Mr. Potter who was in the bar what had happened—I then spoke to the prisoner again, and I asked him to give me the note, and I would take it into the yard and look at it—he gave me three notes, and said, "There is three of them"—I took them into the yard to look at them, and called Mr. Potter—I gave them into his hands, and he took the numbers of them—I called them out to him one at a time—he then gave them back to me, and I put them into my pocket—I returned to to the bar again—the prisoner was there, and the man with him—I asked the prisoner what he wanted for the notes—he said I could have the three for 12l. or one for 4l.—I asked him where he got them—the man was with him at the time, and they both answered at one time, and said, "I found them opposite Bishopsgate Church"—I told the prisoner that I did not want them:—the other man went out directly after—I asked the prisoner where he was gone to, and he said he was just gone outside—he came in again in about five minutes—he went out again in two or three minutes—I asked the prisoner where he was gone, and he said he was gone to get some dinner at the cook-shop—I said, "Is he not come back yet?"—he said, "No, I will go and fetch him if you like"—I said he had better not go, perhaps he would be back again—I said, "I wished him to come back again before I gave him the notes"—the notes were quite new, clean, and folded up when the prisoner handed them to me—they were much cleaner then they are now—(looking at them)—about ten minutes after the other man went out the second time, the policeman Taylor came in, and asked me in the prisoner's presence, if I was the young man that bad had any notes offered me—I said, "Yes"—I had the three notes in my possession at the time—Taylor asked the prisoner if he was the man that bad offered the notes—he said, "Yes," and he took him into custody, and we all three went to the station—on our way there we met police-sergeant Eves, to whom I gave the notes—they had not been out of my sight since the prisoner gave them me.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. What sort of a man was the man hat was with the prisoner? A. A short dark Jewish looking man—the prisoner
remained ten minutes or a quarter of an hour after he had gone away—he went out and in twice—I cannot say how long it was after that man came into the house that the policeman came—he had been there perhaps a quarter of an hour, twenty minutes, or it might be half an hour after I came down stairs—I only knew the prisoner by sight—I did not know his name—I do not know that his mother, or any relation nursed Mrs. Potter—he has been at the house several times—I looked at them both when I asked where they got the notes, and both said they picked them up—I never saw the prisoner write.
JAMES POTTER . I keep the White Horse, Shoreditch. On 25th Oct., about three o'clock in the afternoon, I observed the prisoner standing close to the counter, leaning over, as though he wanted to speak to some one—there was one man behind him, and another drinking a glass of ale at the side—thinking they were waiting to be served, I directed Ritches to serve them—he said that they had been served—he came to me shortly after, and I asked what the man wanted, and he said he had some notes that he wanted to show him—the prisoner could not hear that—Ritches came to me with a newspaper in his hand that the men should not think that he came to speak to me about the notes—I directed him to get the notes to take the numbers, and see if they were correct—he got them and showed them to me in the yard; they were perfectly new—I took the numbers and dates of them—these three produced are them—I am in the habit of taking a great many notes, and I knew that these were not genuine by the paper—in consequence of that I told Ritches to hold conversation with him privately, and not pay any attention to other customers till I went for a constable—I told him to keep the notes—I then went into the street, and observed five other persons going in and out into the bos adjoining where the prisoner was, and two or three others going into the other box, and listening over the partition to hear what passed between Ritches and the prisoner—they appeared to watch to see what we determined to do—I was waiting for a constable I had sent for—Taylor came, and I communicated the circumstances to him, and pointed out the other persons to him, but he did not seem to take so much interest in the matter as I considered he would have done—I afterwards directed him to take the prisoner into custody—the other man came out of the door as I was speaking to Taylor.
HENRY TAYLOR (policeman, H 91). On 25th Oct. last I went to the White Horse—I went into a private box, and asked Ritches, in the prisoner's hearing, if he bad had any notes offered to him—he said, "Yes," and pointed out the prisoner as the man that offered them—the prisoner said he found them opposite Bishopsgate Church, and not knowing what they were, he came to George the barman, to ask what they were as he could not read or write—it had been wet that morning, but at that time it was very clean and dry.
JAMES EVES (police-sergeant, H 14). On 25th Oct. I met Taylor in Shoreditch with the prisoner in custody—Ritches was walking behind, and handed me three notes—I took them to the Bauk, and delivered them to Mr. Higman—Mr. Pearson, a clerk at the Bank afterwards returned them to me stamped—I kept them in my possession till I took them to the police-court—they were then taken possession of by Mr. Freeman—I asked the prisoner his address—he gave it, "Thomas Hunt, at Mr. Dixon's, across the ruins, Crabtree-row, Hackney-road"—I asked him where he got the notes—he said he found them opposite Bishopsgate Church, and a man who had the appearance of a Jew saw him pick them up, and wanted them—he did not let the man have them, but they went to the White Horse and had a pint of beer.
MR. PEARSON. I am a clerk in the Bank of England. On 25th Oct. I received three 5l.-notes from Mr. Savage—I indorsed them with my name and the date—these are them (produced)—I immediately went and got the stamp "forged," and returned them to Eves.
JOSHUA FREEMAN . I am inspector of notes at the Bank of England. I have seen and examined these notes; they are forgeries; they are not all from the same plate—there is no water-mark—there is an attempt to give it by pressure.
Cross-examined. Q. Are they very well done? A. Very fairly—an ignorant person, not skilful in notes, might be deceived by them.
GEORGE TEAKLE (policeman, H 8). I went, four, five, or six times, to the residence of a person named Dixon, 9, Greengate-gardens, Hackney-road; it is opposite Crabtree-row, Hackney-road, across the ruins—I never saw the prisoner there—I know a person named George Hunt; I subpoened him as a witness—he was here this morning; I missed him about three minutes after I saw him here—I have since been after him to his house, and to every house in the neighbourhood, and have not been able to find him.
COURT to JOHN RITCHES. Q. Did the prisoner at any time tell you he could not read or write, and want you to explain the notes to him? A. No, he did not apply to me for any information on that subject—he said nothing about having found them until I asked him.
(The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate teas read by consent as follows:—"I am a weaver by trade, sir; I have not followed it up for eight years, come Christmas; it was so bad I could not get a living by it. I am a labouring man, sir, and now work on the Quay, in Thames-street, by the water-side. Coming home from my labour, opposite Bishopsgate Church, sir, I picks up these papers, sir, folded up. A Jew comes up to me, sir, immediately, and says, 'What have you got there?' I says, 'I don't know, being no scholar.' He says, 'Let me look.' I unfolds them, and lets him look. He says, 'Where are you going?' I says, 'To Mr. Cotter's, and there I shall hear what they are.'I goes in, he follows me, and calls for a pint of porter. He says, 'Drink.' I says, 'No, you are a stranger to me.' I says, 'George, will you look at these for me, being no scholar?' He says, 'They are three 5l.-notes;' he says, 'What do you want for them?' The Jew says, 'Ask him 12l.; however, he took them. I sees no more of him; George, I mean. While the prosecutor was gone with them the Jew says, 'I am going to my dinner, a door or two off, at the cook's-shop.'I waited there nearly three-quarters of an hour from the time I first went in. He never came back again no more. I still staid there till Mr. Potter and the policeman came in, and I have no more to say.")
GUILTY . Aged 32.— Transported for Ten Years.
MESSRS. BODKIN and ROBINSON conducted the Prosecution.
a copy of the record of the conviction of John Atkins, at tin's Court, in Dec. Session, 1839—I have examined it with the original, in Mr. Clark's office; it is a true copy—(read.)
GEORGE BAKER . I am a cheesemonger, at King David-street, Shad-well. On 18th Oct. I came home, and found there had been a bad shilling passed at my shop—on the 19th the prisoner came and asked for 3d.-worth of bacon, and paid me with a bad shilling—I observed it was of the same stamp as that which had been passed the day previous—I said nothing about it, but gave him the change—I marked the shilling, and put it into my cash-box, with a piece of paper, separate from any other coin—he came again on the 21st, between five and six o'clock—he took up a piece of meat, and put it into my scale, and gave me another bad shilling of the same stamp as the two others—I could not give him in charge, as I was busy in my business—I said, "It is a bad shilling"—he said, "Is it?"—I said, "You know that it is," and he took up the shilling and went away—on Monday, the 23rd, he came again, and another person with him—he took up some meat, the same as he had done before; it came to 3 1/2 d.—he tendered me half-a-crown—I observed it was bad—I pulled out the till, and said, "I have no silver here, I must go to my other counter; but instead of that I slipped round to him—the other one went away—the prisoner said, "Do not you like my half-crown?"—I said, "No, nor you either"—he got away—I pursued him for 300 yards, till I got him into a dark corner—he turned sharp round, to hit at me, but he fell right into my arms, and I seized him by the throat, and took him to the station—I delivered the half-crown and the 2s. to the sergeant.
GEORGE HOGSTON (policeman, K 205). Baker gave the prisoner into my custody at the station—he said he knew of the half-crown, but he knew nothing of the 2s.—while the half-crown and 2s. were lying at the station, before the charge was taken, he made a grab at the 2s.—the sergeant caught hold of one hand, Mr. Baker of the other, and I caught him by the throat—I did not know at the time whether he had got them or not, but he had not—these are them, and the half-crown also (produced.)
MR. POWELL re-examined. The 2s. and half-crown are all counterfeit.
GUILTY . Aged 50.— Transported for Ten Years.
34. FREDERICK HERBERT , feloniously forging and uttering an order for payment of 6l., with intent to defraud John Leadbeater: also an order for payment of 14l., with intent to defraud John Simpson: also an order for payment of 1l. 5s., with intent to defraud John Coffin; to all of which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 35.— Transported for Seven Years.
MR. PAYNE conducted the Prosecution.
ALLEN HEMBROW . I live at Devenport-mews, Bayswater, and am a groom out of a situation. About eight in the evening of 30th Oct. I was with a friend in Westminster, and met a young woman called Emma; I do not know her other name—I went with her to No. 1, Duck-lane, Westminster, and had some gin and beer with her and Eke—while there I missed a handkerchief out of my coat-pocket, but I did not take any particular notice of
that—Eke went out of the room three or four times while I was there—after she came in the last time the prisoner Johnson and a boy came in—Eke asked me in Johnson's presence to stand some drink—there was no light in the room at that time—there had been a candle, but it was out—there was no fire—I told my friend I had no more money, and asked him to go out and fetch some drink—he went—the prisoners remained in the room—Eke came and caught hold of my left arm and felt me—I thought she was after my watch, and I broke my guard and put the watch into my right hand coat-pocket, keeping it in my hand—she said to Johnson, "Tom, the watch is in his coat-pocket"—I immediately took it out and put it into my right trowsers-pocket—Johnson came up and tore my pocket—he got hold of my hand—I bit Eke's fingers as she had got hold of my left arm—Johnson bit my thumb and made me leave go of my watch, and got it away after twisting me about the room—the seals were broken off, and fell on the floor—he escaped with the watch—Eke pulled me back on the bed and held me there till the man escaped—she then escaped herself—I locked the door till the policeman came, and called, "Police!" and "Murder!"—when the policeman came I saw him pick up the seals close against the door and the guard at the other end of the room—I was sober—I know Johnson to be the man.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENJDERGAST. Q. During the greater part of the time, as I understand, you were in the dark? A. We were, nearly all the time—I went to the house about eight o'clock, and this happened about half-past eleven—I did not see Johnson again till the following Thursday—he left his hat in the room—it was knocked off in the scuffle—I afterwards saw it on. Johnson's head—it did not come over his eyes or appear too large for him—I had never seen him before the night of the robbery.
MR. PAYNE. Q. How long was he in the room altogether with you? A. About ten minutes—I recognised him again immediately I saw him on the Thursday—there was no light in the room while he was in it; but a light shone in at the window full on his face, and I can swear to him.
Eke. Q. You said the man that did the robbery had whiskers? A. No I did not—I did not send you out for ale—you were on the bed with me—I lighted the candle three or four times, and as fast as I lighted it you blew it out—I bit your finger while you held my arm—I did not pinch it in your trying to get in at the door—I was never in the house before—my friend has been there—I have seen you once or twice before at the Queen's Head.
WILLIAM KNEEBONE TRIBBLECOCK . I am a carpenter, and live in Edward-street, Dorset-square. I was with Hembrow on the evening of 30th Oct., about eight o'clock, and met a female called Emma, who lives with Eke—I went with her to 1, Duck-lane, and there saw Eke—we remained there till nearly eleven—a knock came—to the door while I was in the room, and a man and a boy came in—they remained about two or three minutes—I then went out for some ale—I had not been gone two or three minutes when I heard my friend hallooing "Murder!" and "Police!"—I got a policeman and went with him back to the house in about five minutes after I had left it—the man and boy were then gone—we found Eke there—I could not recognise the features of the man that was in the room—it was in the dark—I know that Hembrow had his watch when he went into the house.
Cross-examined. Q. I suppose you knew this girl's friend very well? A. Not long—I had seen her several times before, and my friend knew her by seeing her at Paddington—I saw the hat found—I did not see it put on Johnson—I thought the man that was in the room was taller than Johnson—I do not believe Johnson is the man.
Eke. Q. You have known me a long time, and have come to see me ever since I left service? Witness. I have know you a good while, and never knew anything against your honesty before.
RICHARD COUSINS (policeman, B 30). About eleven o'clock on the night of 30th Oct., I was in Peter-street, and heard cries of "Police!" and "Murder!"—I went to 1, Duck-lane and met Eke at the door—she said, "I think you are wanted up-stairs"—I said, "You had better accompany me, as it is in your own room"—we went up—the door was fastened—I knocked, and on my saying "Police," it was opened, and the prosecutor was inside—when he saw Eke he said, "I shall give her in charge for stealing my watch"—she said, "D----you, you have bit my finger, and that is quite sufficient"—I found a key, seal, this little strap, and a foreign piece, close to the door, and this guard near the window—the carpets were turned upside down and the poker lying in the middle of the room.
MARK LOOME (police-sergeant, B 11). From information I received, I went in search of Johnson on Thursday, 2nd Nov., and found him at the White Horse, Orchard-street, Westminster, with ten or twelve others, several of whom I knew—I called him out of the tap-room, and told him he was charged, with a female, with stealing a watch from 1, Duck-lane—he said he knew nothing about it, it was d—d hard to suffer for other people—I think he said he had not been to the house where the robbery was committed since Sunday—I had seen him before—he is called Tom—I have never seen him with whiskers—another man has been apprehended since—both the prisoners said that was the person—I believe his name is Tom, but as soon as the prosecutor saw him he said he was not the man—he had very small whiskers—I am not aware that he lived in the house; Johnson's brother did.
Eke's Defence. At the time the policeman met me I had come from the back parlour, hearing some one run down stairs; the policeman said, "What is the matter, Poll?" I said, "You are wanted up stairs;" I went up with him, and the prosecutor said to me, "I know you have sent the men up to rob me;" I know the man that had the watch, he lived in the next room to me; I was not in the room at the time the robbery was committed; it was all done in a minute; Johnson was never in my room; a person came to me at the House of Detention, and said that the man who lived in the next room to me had the watch; I wanted it to be returned; I have known the prosecutor since I left service; he says he was never in the house before, but I have a witness to prove he has repeatedly visited me on a Sunday evening, and that I was in the parlour when the robbery happened.
CHARLES MOODY . I have not seen Hembrow at the house, but I have seen Tribblecock there several times—the prosecutor described to me the man that had robbed him as having sandy whiskers, and said that he lived up stairs, and he had drunk with him on another occasion in the room—I do not keep the house now—I gave it up on account of this occurrence—only two unfortunate women lived there.
MRS. TATE. Eke did not come into my parlour on the night of the robbery, to my knowledge.
EKE— GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Ten Years.
JOHNSON— NOT GUILTY .
36. ELIZABETH ROGERS, ISABELLA JENNINGS , and JOHN JENNINGS , stealing 1 coffce-pot, 1 tea-pot, 24 forks, 2 soup-ladles, and other articles, value 150l., the goods of Cranstoun George Ridout, the master of Rogers, in his dwelling-house.
MR. PAYNE conducted the Prosecution.
CRANSTOUN GEORGE RIDOUT , Esq. I have been in the army, but have retired, and live at 11, Wimpole-street, Marylebone; Rogers was my housemaid. On 29th Aug. I left town, leaving her alone in charge of the house—my wife and family had left on the 9th—the day before I left, I gave Rogers directions what to do in my absence, and wrote it down, and read it over to her—on. 23rd Oct. I received information, came to town at eleven o'clock at night, and found Rogers alone in the house—I went up to my bed-room, and found a closet on the landing, where plate, linen, and valuables were kept, wide open, and the ground covered with things which had been taken out of it—I had left it locked, and also my wardrobe and drawers—I found them open—Sergeant Harris came to the house with me, and I missed a silver tea-pot, coffee-pot, twenty-four silver forks, a quantity of linen, and a great many other things, amounting to nearly 200l.—I do not know the Jennings's—I never gave them leave to come to the house—Rogers had a married sister, and I said, "I will allow you to see your sister, Mrs. Osborne"—this is my plate (produced), and this is my daughter's box; it was in her room up stairs, and is broken open.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. How long had Rogers been in your service? A. Since 27th July, 1847—I left her in charge of the house that year, from Aug. to Oct., and left the plate in the closet—I understand Jennings is her sister.
JOHN STICKLEY . I am page to Mr. Ridout. On 26th May last I went to the plate-closet with Rogers—a tea-pot and other things were taken out, which would enable her to know there was plate there—the family left town on Aug. 9th—the day before that, Mrs. Ridout packed the plate up—Rogers came down, and said, "Mistress is up stairs, packing away the plate; I suppose she is going away to-morrow"—my master remained till the 29th—I went away with him, leaving Rogers in the house—she slept at the top of the house, above the plate-closet.
LOUIS FEZER . I am butler to Mr. Chalon, of 10, Wimpole-street, next door to Mr. Ridout's. On 22nd Sept. I saw a cab at his door, about half-past nine o'clock at night—I saw two or three bundles put into it by the two female prisoners—Rogers put the lastin—there was a young man there whom I did not know—I have seen John Jennings go in and out of the house several times—the two women went away in the cab, and the man outside—in about half an hour I heard the door open.
Cross-examined. Q. Were you near enough to see the bundles? A. Yes—it appeared like linen—I had seen Isabella Jennings go in many times, but never with any bundles.
CHARLES RUTTERFORD . I am a carpenter, of East-street, Manchester-square. The two Jennings's lodged with me—Rogers took the lodging for them—she came on 22nd with another person and a child, and boxes and bundles—I helped to carry them up stairs—one was heavy—they appeared to be clothes or linen.
Cross-examined. Q. Was Jennings far advanced in the family-way? A. I did not see her at first; she was afterwards—on the Sunday after, she was confined—they were taken at my house—they sent for their things—I saw that part of them were baby linen and female apparel.
our ten-spoons, a pair of sugar-tongs, and four ladles, pledged on 22nd Sept., or 9l., by Isabella Jennings, in the name of Ann Smith, for Amelia Green.
Isabella Jennings. Q. Was I in the family-way? A. I did not see; you had a cloak on—I have no doubt of you.
JOSEPH AVANT . I am manager to Mr. Grey, a pawnbroker, of Fleet-street. I produce two gravy and four table-spoons, pledged on 22nd Sept., about seven o'clock in the evening, in the name of Amelia Greenwood, 24, Hackney-road, for 5l., by a respectable female, named Elizabeth Smith, not either of the prisoners.
CHARLES OSBORNE . I am married to Rosrers's sister. On 24th Oct. Jennings came to me, and asked me to lend him a great-coat and a pair of boots—he said he would bring them back in an hour or an hour and a half—I lent him them—it was after Mrs. Jennings was in custody—he said he was afraid the pawnbroker would identify his wife; that he was the person who had stolen the plate, at two different times, and this was a part of the plate he had given his wife to pledge, part to another party, and the other part he had taken away and buried—I asked where he buried it—he said he would not tell me, unless he was taken into custody, and then he would tell me, to pay for Counsel—he went away with my coat and boots, and did not come back, as I gave information, and he was taken—I saw him at the station, and asked him what he had done with the plate he had buried—he said his brother Ben had got it; he had not seen anything of him since—I asked where he was—he said he thought he was at Windsor—I asked what he had done with the money from the plate he had first stolen—he said he had thrown it down the water-closet—the water-closet—was searched, but no money found—he said a flash girl had pawned the other part of the property.
Cross-examined. Q. Did he say anything about Rogers? A. That she did not know anything of the robbery, that she was out when his wife let him in, and he concealed himself in the house—Rogers and Jennings, and my wife, are sisters—it was my wife who Mr. Ridout had no objection to coming to the house—she went, but was not able to stay, as she had her shop to attend to.
THOMAS HILL (policeman, D 80). On Monday morning, 2nd Oct., I was on duty near Mr. Ridout's about twenty minutes past seven o'clock—Rogers came to me, and said she had been up to see what time it was, and found two doors open, and she fancied some one was in the house—I went with her, searched, but found nobody—I found one shutter of the dining-room open, and the place in a confused state—the cheffionier-drawers were open, the drawing-room was rather confused, and a drawer was open there—I asked the prisoner if she missed anything—she said she did not—I went into the back-room, and found it rather confused—I found a cupboard on the next floor broken open, and the plate-basket and a box standing outside with nothing in it—I asked Rogers if she knew whether there was any plate in it—she said she did not—I went into a bed-room on the same floor, and found the wardrobe-drawers open—on the next floor a box was standing open on a table, with the lock attached to the lid—I said, "It is a very bad job"—Rogers made no answer—I went with her into the parlour, and found a cupboard open—the housekeeper's room-door was shut, but it had been broken open—I took hold of the lock of the wine-cellar, and it came off in my hand—the door was closed—I got through the dining-room window, which was open, and went across the loads through a door which led into a stable in Harleymews—the door was on the latch—a piece was broken off another door between the stable and the leads—it appeared to have been done some time—
I found a piece of iron between the two doors—I fetched Sergeant Markwick, returned, and Rogers was still there—she did not complain to me of missing anything.
JAMES HANDLE (policeman, D 199). On Sunday night, 1st Oct., about eight o'clock, I went on duty in Wimpole-street—I went into Harley-mews—the stable-doors of Wimpole-street are there—I tried Mr. Ridout's stable-door—it was fast—I always make a mark when stables are to let, and I marked this and the next one—that enabled me to tell whether it was opened or not—I saw it every ten minutes during the night, and tried it—the last time was at five minutes past four, when I removed my mark—it was fast then—in the morning, between eleven and twelve, I went to the house, and saw Rogers—I asked her how long it was since she was over the whole of the house—she said, "Four or five days"—I said, "That is strange"—I asked if she had the key of the stables—she said she had, and Mr. Puttick also had one, and he had told her to leave the stable-door open—I believe he is the house-agent—I said, "The stable-door was fast during the night, and when I went off my beat in the morning"—I do not think she made any answer—we went into the dining-room—I asked when she was in that room—she said when she went over the house—I said I had seen her standing at the door with females—she said it was her sister—I asked her two or three times if there was any plate missing—she said she did not know—I asked if she knew if there was any in the house—she said she did not know.
Cross-examined. Q. Did she say her sister had come there, as she was afraid of being in the house alone? A. I will not swear she did not.
Jennings. Q. Did you think I was in the family-way? A. No—you had a cloak on.
JOSEPH PRICE (policeman, D 240). On 2nd Oct. I was left in charge of 11, Wimpole-street, from nine o'clock in the morning till between five and six—in a closet where they said the plate was, I found a silver cream-jug—I asked Rogers if she knew if the plate was left at home—she said she did not—I asked if she had had any one in the house—she said only her sister, named Jennings, who lived in East-street—I said, "Was her husband here?"—she said, "No, he has been to the door, but has not been inside."
Cross-examined. Q. Have you got the written directions? A. Yes—(produced)—I found them in a box, which Rogers said was hers.
THOMAS HARRISSON (police-sergeant, D 14). I went to the house with Super-intendent Hughes, and asked Rogers who she had had in the house with her—she said no one but her sister—I asked if her sister was married or single—she said, "Married"—I asked what her husband was—she said a servant out of place, that he had been at the door, but had never been in, that her sister lived at 24, East-street—I went there, and saw Mrs. Jennings and another person—while I was there Jennings came home—I said, "I suppose you have heard what has occurred at your sister's master's"—he said, "I have heard something about it"—I said, "Have you any objection to go to Mr. Ridout's?"——he said, "No"—I asked Mrs. Jennings what she brought there on Friday night—she said only her own clothes and some baby-linen—I found several bundles of women's and children's linen—I took Jennings to the house—Mr. Ridout and Rogers were there—I took Rogers and Jennings to the station—I found two iron skewers in the kitchen—one was bent, which attracted my attention—I fitted them to some marks on this box of Miss Ridout's, and to
the plate-closet door—they would make such marks—on 4th Oct. I went to Jennings's place—he was not at home—I went next morning, and he came while I was there—he said he had been at his father's, at Walthamstow.
MR. RIDOUT re-examined. These things are all mine—these two table-cloths are very remarkable—they cost eight guineas each—this box is my daughter's.
(Henry Stonor, Esq., barrister, 4, New Boswell-court, deposed to Rogers's good character, and Jane Williams to that of Rogers and Isabella Jennings.) ROGERS— GUILTY . Aged 26: ISABELLA JENNINGS— GUILTY . Aged 30.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury, believing them to be influenced by John Jennings in the commission. of the act.
JOHN JENNINGS— GUILTY . Aged 23.
NEW COURT.—Wednesday, November 29th, 1848.
PRESENT—Sir CHAPMAN, MARSHALL, Knt., Ald.; Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE; and Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Fifth Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 12.— Confined Ten Days, Solitary, and Whipped.
38. WILLIAM MORRELL was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John Freemantle, and stealing 1 coat, 2 pairs of trowsers, and other articles, value 10l., his goods; to which he pleaded
GUILTY . * Aged 18.— Confined Nine Months.
GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined Nine Months.
MASON pleaded GUILTY . † Aged 23.— Transported for Seven Years ,
Cross-examined by Mr. Horry. Q. Was not Kelley some distance behind? A. About three yards.
----GLASGON. I saw Kelley and Mason in Birdcage-walk two or three turnings, from Mr. Bawdon's—Mason had a piece of calico under each arm—Mason dropped one piece, Kelley picked it up and gave it him—Jackson was not there then.
and saw Mason in a milkman's charge—I took him—he was very violent—Jackson came up, caught hold of me, and tried to rescue him—after a great deal of difficulty, with the assistance of other constables, we took them both.
Jackson. I did not try to rescue him? Witness. You pulled him away, and kicked me several times.
Jackson's Defence. The policeman knew I had been convicted before, and said he would take me, as he knew me, and knew me to be a relation of Mason, but I am not.
JACKSON and KELLY— NOT GUILTY .
NOT GUILTY .
42. MATTHEW RIELLY , feloniously breaking and entering the counting-honse of Frederick Good Wadham, and stealing 1 clock, 1 pair trowsers, and other articles, value 6l. 19s.; his property: to which he pleaded
GUILTY . *† Aged 26.— Transported for Ten Years.
MR. SLEIGH conducted the Prosecution.
RICHARD TARRANT BROOME . I am a meat-salesman, of Newgate-street—the prisoner was occasionally employed by me. On 18th Nov. I ought to have received eight pigs from Mr. Whistler, of Thetford, and the prisoner told me they had come—I missed one in the afternoon—they were peculiarly dressed—they always have their fore feet cut off—I received other pigs that morning, but none dressed that way—on the next Tuesday I recognized one of them at Mr. Duckworth's, in Newgate-market.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Is Mr. Whistler here? A. No—he would not know the pig—I saw five or six of the pigs that Came—the prisoner calls everything over to me, and I book it—I have booked eight, and only found seven—they were outside in the street in hampers, tied down—some time after they arrived, the prisoner cut the basket open to get them out—I only paid Mr. Whistler for seven, not knowing the weight of the missing one.
CHARLES HART . I am Mr. Broom's foreman. On 18th Nov., about eight o'clock in the moving, I received two hampers from Mr. Whistler, with four pigs in each—I ordered the prisoner to cut the string and take them out—he did so—they had the fore feet cut off—the prisoner asked to go out about eight, and was gone four or five minutes.
Cross-examined. Q. Was not that a common thing for him to do? A. Occasionally—I did not see him go—he did not go directly—there were a great many persons in Newgate-street—it was just getting light—there were three other men employed—I sold all the pigs that came that morning—I did not sell these eight.
GEORGE WELLS . I am scale-man to Mr. Duckworth, of Newgate-street. On 18th Nov. the prisoner came with a pig, and said, "George, will you book a pig in the name of Steel?"—I did so—it had the fore feet off—I asked him where Mr. Steel lived—he said, "Holloway, Highgate, or somewhere there"—he afterwards came back and asked for the porterage—the clerk paid him 2d.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you ever hear anything against him before?
A. No—I have known him many years—I saw no pigs that day dressed like this.
Cross-examined. Q. Is it exactly his writing? A. There may be a little difference—the prisoner has embezzled 20l. worth of property of mine, ten or eleven weeks ago—there is a great dispute between us—(note read—"Nov. 18, 1848. Sir, please let bearer have the account of the pig sent on Saturday.")
Cross-examined. Q. Have you seen him write? A. Scores of times?
(The prisoner received a good character).
GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined Six Months.
MR. O'BRILN conducted the Prosecution.
THOMAS BROWETT . I am a solicitor—I was stopping at the George Inn, Aldermanbury. On the night of 14th Nov. I was going home, about ten minutes past one o'clock—I turned up a court, the prisoners came one on each side of me, and threw their arms round me, left me in an instant, and I missed my purse from my right waistcoat-pocket—the prisoners were only five yards off—I laid hold of them, and charged them with it—they said I had dropped it—a policeman came—I laid hold of the shawl of one of them—the purse fell on the ground, and the money fell out—it contained three 5l. notes, two checks, and 4l. 10s.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Were you sober? A. Perfectly—they were not with me half a minute—I never said I did not know whether I dropped it myself—I did not feel the purse go—before the policeman came I offered them a guinea to restore it—I proposed no settlement after I saw the policeman.
Cross-examined. Q. Are you sure it did not fall from bis pocket? A. Quite.
HART— GUILTY . Aged 19.—HARRIS— GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Four Months.
45. GEORGE JONES , stealing 1 bag, value 6d., 7 sovereigns, 1 half-sovereign, 1 half-crown, 3 shillings, 1 5l.-note, and an order for payment of 5l. 16s., 7d.; the property of James Reynolds, from his person.
JAMES REYNOLDS . I come from Reading—on 9th Nov. I employed the prisoner to row me from Blackfriars to Westminster-bridge and back—I drank with him—he followed me to Farringdon-street, and I gave him a glass of gin—I had about 20l. in my left-hand coat-pocket—I kept my hand on it—it went while I was drinking the gin, and the prisoner ran away—he was taken next day—I am sure of him.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Was the house full? A. There was no one there—I did not go back to the house or complain there of having been robbed—I ran to stop the check—I had drunk very little—I offered to pay
the fare, but the young man with him would not accept of it as I had treated them—then the prisoner came and asked me for it, and I gave him some more drink—the street was full of people when I followed him out—his brother who rowed the boat with him gave me his address written—I gave it to the policeman.
Cross-examined. Q. How long have you known him? A. Many years—I never knew anything against his character—this paper enabled me to find him out.
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 30.— Transported for Seven Years.
CHARLES JAMES JEFFRIES . I am a music publisher. On 4th Nov. Buck, who was porter to my printer, came to my house—I watched him—he went out with two reams of music paper on his shoulder—I crossed over to the railing in Sobo-square—he looked back to my shop several times—he turned down an archway—I went on to his masters and waited till he came—I opened the door to him—he had only one ream of paper—I said, "What have you done with the other ream?"—he said he had dropped it in the mud and would go back and find it—I said, "No, it is not likely; you will come in and tell me what you have done with it"—he said,—"Pray have mercy on me?"—I said, "Tell me what you have done with it?"—he hesitated a good while, and at last agreed to take me to where he left it—he took me to a grocer's shop in Crown-street, kept by Huddert—I said to Huddert, "Do you know this man?"—he said, "Yes; I have bought a small quantity of paper of him"—I said, "Where is it?"—he said, "I have not paid for it"—he threw it down, and said, "There it is"—I called a policeman, and the prisoners were taken to the station—we came back to the house and found a quantity of paper which I believe to be mine—it has been made up into bags—it is music paper, not grocer's paper—I was a good deal excited.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. You were in a very great passion? A. No—I know this ream by the Government stamp on it—this other paper I believe to be mine—it is made on purpose for music—I never saw it used for any other purpose—this portrait of Jenny Lind I swear to (pointing to it) it was hanging up in Huddert's shop-parlour—an artist, named Taft, went by my desire to the Opera to take it for me—I have sold thousands of them—I cannot swear that this was not sold.
Buck's Defence. I had not the means of living, and was compelled to obtain two reams instead of one which I was sent for; I asked for permission to leave it at Mr. Huddert's for a little time; I had not determined what to do with it.
MR. BALLANTINE called
MARY ANN SCOTT . I am a widow, and live at 32, Crown-street On 4th Nov. I was in Huddert's shop—a man came in with two pieces of paper—he threw one by the side of the canister—he said, "Let me leave this
here for a few moments"—there was a little child who was likely to tumble over it, and I threw it between a canister and a mill—I do not know Hud-dart, but I saw an account of this in the newspaper, and came forward.
JOSEPH CLARK . I am a grocer, of Broadway, Westminster. I have know Huddart about two years—he was in my employ as shopman about twelve months—he conducted himself in the most satisfactory manner, and left me to set up in business—this is the same sort of paper as we use in our business—I have a quantity of it—he has bought paper of me—this other sort we use for some purposes—we give 27s. per cwt. for paper for bags—I had a very excellent character with him.
BUCK— GUILTY . Aged 48.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor.— Confined Three Months.
HUDDERT— NOT GUILTY .
MR. BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
JOSHUA BURTON . I live in Great Turnstile. On 16th Nov., the prisoner came and asked for a pie—it came to 1d.—he gave me a shilling—I gave him change—he went away—I found the shilling was bad, marked it, and kept it apart from other coin—on 20th Nov. the prisoner came for another article—he paid me a shilling, I saw it was bad, and said, "How many more are you going to bring me of this kind"—he said he did not know it was bad—I gave him into custody—I gave the policeman the two shillings.
GUILTY .— Confined One Month
49. THOMAS FOWKE was indicted for unlawfully breaking open a desk in the counting-house of George Ratcliffe, with intent to steal; to which he pleaded GUILTY . Aged 26.— To appear for Judgment when called upon.
*BROADLEY pleaded GUILTY . Aged 23.
*YARMOUTH pleaded GUILTY . Aged 21.
Transported for Seven Years.
GEORGE BEAZELY . I packed up three dozen of sherry, on 17th Nov., and put them into this hamper in the cart—they belonged to Mr. David Hart, and were in his cart—I swear to the hamper, and the direction on it—I sent it by our carman.
JOHN DAVIS (City-policeman, 551). I saw the three prisoners in East-cheap, about six o'clock in the evening, on 17th Nov.—Yarmouth was trying one of the errand carts—I followed the prisoners about an hour and a half—they went to the Blackwall Railway, Fenchurch-street—Broadley and Yarmouth took a hamper and carried it away—Skinner was there, about ten yards from them with a basket on his head—he could see them—I am confident he was aware of what was going on—he was merely out to look if the man in uniform was coming—I followed the two prisoners to Fenchurch-buildings.
Cross-examined by Mr. Prendergast. Q. Did they not call out to Skinner, and did he not refuse to pay any attention to them? A. Broadley gave a halloo for Skinner to join them; he did not, he had not an opportunity—he came in the direction where they were—I swear he was watching them—I was secreted under a doorway—Broadley called, Hoy, Hoy! which is a signal among thieves—I said before the Magistrate that Broadley called out to Skinner to join them, but he did not—I do not know that I said that Skinner walked towards them—Skinner told me he had just been to Billingsgate.
SKINNER— NOT GUILTY .
THOMAS BOLTON . I live at 51, Strand, and am a doctor's boy. On 2nd Nov., about half-past seven o'clock in the evening, a woman accosted me in Bedford-place—she walked with me till we came to Russell-square, where she stopped, and we got talking together—I missed my watch, and caught hold of her—the prisoner whom I saw seven or eight yards off came behind her—I saw her hand my watch to him—I let go the woman and took hold of the prisoner—he gave me a blow in the face, knocked me from him, and ran away to the corner of Montague-place, where he stopped—I came up to him, and charged him with having my watch—he denied it—a gentleman requested him if he were innocent to be searched—he said be would not—he was taken into custody—he resisted when he was stopped.
Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. How long were you with this female? A. About five minutes—I was sober—the prisoner was standing still when I came up to him—it was all the work of a moment—there was another person with him in the square.
GUILTY . Aged 25.— Transported for Seven Years.
GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Seven Years.
(There were three other indictments against the prisoner.)
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Two Months ,
CATHERINE ROBINSON . I live with my father and mother. On 28th Oct. I was going to take a half-crown—the prisoner came and asked me what I had got—I said a half-crown—she told me to give it her—I gave it her,
she wrapped it up in a bit of paper—she gave it me three times, and took it three times—the third time she gave me the paper without it.
MRS. ROBINSON. I sent my child with the half-crown—she came back crying, and had not got it—it was my husband's, Francis Robinson.
GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined Nine Months.
OLD COURT.—Thursday, Nov. 30th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. JUSTICE COLTMAN; Sir PETER LAURIE, Knt., Ald.; Mr. Ald. GIBBS; and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq., and the Fourth Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 16.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Fourteen Days.
57. ANN LONDON , stealing 9 spoons, and other articles, value 13l.; the goods of John Cooke, her master: also, I time-piece, value 30s.; the goods of Thomas Tully; having been before convicted; to which she pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Transported for Seven Years.
ANN ALLEN . I am the wife of George Allen, who keeps a coffee-shop in New Church-street, Portman-market—the prisoner was in my service about nine days. On 12th Nov., between eleven and twelve o'clock, I gave my daughter my keys to go to my drawers for a handkerchief—half an hour afterwards I missed my keys, but could not find them—I asked the prisoner if she knew anything about them—she said she did not—between two and three in the afternoon the prisoner pointed out the keys to me, on a hot plate, in the yard—I then went to my drawers, and missed some shillings, two 4d.-pieces, a pair of cuffs, some lace, and a gold-clasp—I then went down to the prisoner, and asked her about it—she at first denied having been to the drawers—she afterwards said now I had found her out she would cut her throat, so help her God!—I afterwards went up to her room, and requested her to open a little box there—she did so, and I found part of the missing property in it—she said it was mine, and gave me part of the silver she had taken—she said she took it out of the drawer—my gold-snap was among the things—these are them (produced)—she said she was very sorry for what she had done.
Prisoner. I am very sorry for what 1 have done.
GUILTY . Aged 16.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined One Mouth .
HUGHES pleaded GUILTY . † Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years.
JAMES HORTON . I live at Belgrave-cottage, Whittaker-street, with my father, Samuel Horton. On the evening of the 16th Nov. I was going along Cadogan-place; I saw the two prisoners—I am sure they are the persons—I had never seen them before—they came up to me—Hughes snatched a brown-paper parcel out of my arm, and ran—he said nothing—I pursued him, and Davis knocked me down with his fist against the railing—I got up again, and began to run after Hughes, and found him caught by Tiller—this is the bundle that I was carrying (produced)—it is my father's property.
JAMES HUNTER TUCK . I am a florist, in Cadogan-place. On this night, about half-past six o'clock, I heard a cry of "Stop thief!" and saw Hughes running with a brown-paper parcel under his arm, calling "Stop thief!"—I followed, and asked him which way the thief was gone—he said, "On forward"—I saw Hughes run into the policeman's arms—he threw the bundle down at his feet, and said he had never seen it.
EDWARD TILLER (policeman, B 55). I was on duty in Cadogan-place on the 16th—I heard "Stop thief!" cried, and saw Hughes some distance before he got up to me, with a parcel under his left arm, and when I stopped him he dropped it.
Davis. Directly he came into the station-house he said to the boy, "Don't you think that is the one?" pointing to me, and the boy said, "I think it is."Witness. Horton looked at Davis first, and said, "I think this is him"—he then looked at two others, and said, "Yes, I know it is him by bis face"—I had a description of him—three of them and a female came down to the station to inquire for Hughes, and I brought them all into the station into a private room, and then fetched Horton, and told him to go in and see if either of them were the party.
DAVIS— GUILTY . † Aged 24.— Transported for Seven Years.
Before Mr. Justice Coltman.
MR. RYLAND conducted the Prosecution.
CHARLES SEXTON . I am a driller, at Poplar. On Monday, 26th June, between seven and eight o'clock in the evening, I and my wife were in the Poplar-road, coming from Limehouse—I saw the deceased coming down the East India-road, which is between Poplar and Limehouse—he was coming towards me on the path—he was intoxicated—the prisoner Came from towards the Cape of Good Hope, which is close at hand, and knocked the deceased's hat off with his hand—the deceased had a bit of green in his hat—he did not attempt to pick up his hat, but made a kick at the prisoner—I cannot say whether he did kick him or not, but the prisoner seemed to fall on his hands—he got up, and struck the deceased with his fist—I cannot say exactly whether he hit him on the forehead, but the deceased fell right down at my feet, on the flags—he seemed to fall on his side—the prisoner ran away—I picked up the deceased, and saw a wound in the right side of his forehead
—he was insensible—the wound was on the same side as that on which he fell—his shoulder came in contact with the ground first, and the side of his head then came in contact with the ground; he then turned on his back, as if insensible—I helped to take him to the doctor's—he was taken to the hospital, as he was so intoxicated we could not find out who he belonged to—I recognized his dead body at the hospital, about three weeks afterwards.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Had you been acquainted with him before? A. No; I recognized his body more by the wound on his head than anything else—the hair was shaved off, and he looked as black as a coal—I can almost swear the prisoner is the man that did it—I did take a person named Mahoney for the party—I had known the prisoner for a few months; he was in the same employment as I was—I did not give Mahoney into custody—I said he was the man, but directly the policeman took him I said, "That is not Donovan"—it was dark at the time I fixed upon him.
MARY ANN SEXTON . I am the wife of last witness. On Monday evening, 26th June, I was with him in the Poplar-road—I saw a man walking in the road, whom I did not know before, and I saw the prisoner towards the East India-road; I had seen him before, but did not know much of him—I saw him meet the deceased, and knock his hat off—the deceased turned round, and made a kick at him—I cannot say that he hit him—the prisoner fell, got up again, made a blow at the deceased, hit him in the face across the forehead, and he fell directly on his right shoulder, on the flag pavement—my husband went to him, and lifted him up—he was lying on his shoulder and side—his forehead was bleeding very much, and he was insensible—I had not heard a word said before the prisoner knocked his hat off—the deceased was taken to the hospital—I saw him at the hospital, dead, three weeks after—I then recognized him as the same man.
Cross-examined. Q, Is the road paved in the middle, and the outer part not? A. I cannot say—he fell on the footway—I did not see the prisoner's hat off at all—he fell on his hands immediately the deceased kicked him, just as if the man had tripped him up, and when he got up the deceased was standing, fronting him.
ROBERT WESTFIELD (policeman, K 329). On Monday evening, 26th June, I was on duty in the Commercial-road, and saw the deceased—he fell on the ground, on his side—I did not see what caused that fall—I was on the opposite side of the way, and cannot say whether he fell on his right or left side—I saw the prisoner and another young man go down a court close by—I pursued him, in consequence of what the Sextons said, but did not overtake him—I saw enough of him to know that he was the prisoner—I helped to take the deceased to the doctor's, and afterwards took him to the London Hospital in a cart—I saw him after he was dead—that was the Same person.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you receive Mahoney into custody? A. Yes—Sexton pointed him out—it was between ten and eleven o'clock at night, but within a minute Sexton said he was not the man.
JAMES HAMS (police-sergeant K 21). Last Sunday night the prisoner gave himself into my custody at the house of a gentleman named Hall—he had sent for me—he said he was very sorry for what had occurred, it was a very unfortunate affair, and he wished to take his trial for it—I spoke first, and said, "I understand you are going to give yourself up, Donovan?"—I do not think I said for what—when we got to the station, I said, "Donovan, you know what you arc charged with, I suppose? I will read the warrant to you"—I did so—ho then said, "I did not strike him, I merely pushed him with my open hand; he came squaring up to me, and he fell; some people
who were by lifted him up, and then I saw the blood coming from his forehead; some people among the crowd said, 'Run, Jack! run!' I did not wish to go, but they pushed me down the court"—that was all.
PETER GOWLAND . I am house-surgeon at the London Hospital. The deceased was brought there on the evening of 26th June—I attended him—he had a contused wound about an inch, above the left eyebrow—it had bled—it was about half an inch in length, and penetrated to the bone—it was a most common wound, such as we see every day, not serious at all—he remained in the hospital, and went on very well, until the 6th of July—erysipelas then extended from the wound, and he got worse; the brain became affected, and he died—erysipelas is a common consequeuce of a blow on the head—it certainly was in consequence of this wound, and of that he died—he was very drunk when he came in—I heard that he had been in the habit of drinking a great deal—I did not know him before—a fist would not have produced such a wound; there would have been contusion all round, and a different wound altogether.
Cross-examined. Q. I believe that people who are of intemperate habits are much more liable to have erysipelas come on from a wound than others? A. Yes.
COURT, Q. Did you hear the witnesses describe the way in which the man came to the ground? A. Yes—whether that fall could cause this wound, would depend on how much of the force of the fall was taken off by the shoulder coming to the ground first; if the whole weight of the body was received on the shoulder first, then the mere fact of the head coming to the ground would not have produced the wound, but if the fall was not much broken the corner of a flag-stone might have produced it.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY of an Assault . Aged 18.— Confined One Month .
MR. ROBINSON conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM MARTIN SWINFORD . I am a lithographic printer, of 276, Strand. The prisoner has worked for me some years—in March last he brought me this bill for 23l., dated 13th March—he asked me if I would give him 20l. for it, as it was a settlement of an account between him and Mr. Paul Bedford—I gave it him—the bill purports to be endorsed by Mr. Charles Manby—he said he had been to the theatre, and got Mr. Charles Manby to indorse it for him—I cannot say whose writing the acceptance or endorsement is—I received this letter by post in June (produced)—it is the prisoner's writing.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Is this letter in his usual style of writing? A. He writes in various manners—I have no doubt about the signature being his—I should say it is all his—I have known him fourteen or fifteen years—I have done business with him about nine years—he is a person of ability in his business—he has not been doing so well of late as he was—he was in the habit of calling at my office—I do not know the state of his circumstances—he is a lithographic writer—I think I have discounted six or seven bills for him in two years—two of them purported to be the same as this, and the same amount—they were paid—I think I had one bill of him for 30l.; that was paid—all except these two have been paid.
Cross-examined. Q. How long have you known the prisoner? A. Ever since he was a boy; we were schoolfellows—he is a well-conducted, hard-working, industrious man—I have always entertained the highest opinion of his character—he could not have imagined that I would have authorised him to accept this bill—I never allowed him to use my acceptance unless I did it myself—I gave him no authority on this occasion—I knew he was in difficulty at the time—if he had asked me to lend him my acceptance I should not have refused him—I should think from his previous conduct and character, that he would have acted right and honestly to me.
MR. ROBINSON. Q. When did you first hear of this bill. A. Somewhere about two months ago; considerably after June.
Cross-examined. Q. Have you known him any time? A. Three or four years; I employed him—I never knew anything of his private character—I have heard him spoken well of—he has never had my authority to use my name under any circumstances—he had done lithographic work for me, for three or four years, for the Institution of Civil Engineers—he has never received bills or acceptances from me—he has always been paid by the Institution check—there has never been any dispute as to the amount of money until these forgeries were discovered; till I was called on, and made inquiries into it, and then examined the account—there is no money due to him by the Society now—there is a balance standing, but he has not finished the work, which must be done by other hands—if he had finished it, there would have been 37l. due to him—he could finish it in three weeks.
WILLIAM POCOCK (policeman, F 14). I took the prisoner into custody at his residence, Charlton-street, Somers-town—I told him the charge—he made no answer. (Letter read—"2nd June, 1848. Gravesend. Sir,—Under the painful circumstances in which I am placed, and being about to quit the country, I have considered it my duty to write to you, and to state that the bills you hold are fictitious; at the same time, I beg to assure you it is my full intention to strive, by every means in my power, to earn enough to enable me to remit you the amount of them as early as it is possible for me so to do.")
(The prisoner received a good character.)
NOT GUILTY .
WILLIAM MARTIN' SWINFORD . The prisoner brought me this bill for 30l. in May, and said he had been to Mr. Man by, and got him to give it to him—he asked me to give him 29l. for it—I said I would give him 28l. 10s., and gave him a check for the money—I received this letter on 3rd June, and believe it to be the prisoner's writing.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. This bill would become due before the other? A. Yes—I paid it into my bankers'—it was returned as unpaid—at times the prisoner has paid me the money for bills, and at times they have been paid by the acceptors—I do not think he has ever paid the money into my bankers'; ho may have done so—if he has, it would have been all right—he knew that it was the London and Westminster Bank (Holborn Branch)—I
learned that this was a forgery two or three days after it became due—it was noted—I have never received the money.
Cross-examined. Q. Was he a good workman? A. Yes; but neglected it so much that I was obliged to employ some one else—there was 130l. owing to him at the time of Cockburns' failure; it may have been 200l.—he has got it all except 37l., for which the work has not been completed—he borrowed 100l. from Mr. Webster, and I guaranteed the repayment—the failure did not delay the payments, he was paid at the next meeting of the Council—he could only be paid by the signature of three in Council—I do not think they met from May till the beginning of July.
GUILTY . Aged 24.—Strongly recommended to Mercy by the Prosecutor and Jury.— Confined Twelve Months.
MR. BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
ENOCH THOMAS . I deal in household furniture, at Crown-court, Golden-square—I have known the prisoner two or three months—I supplied him with some furniture, for which he was paying me at 5s. a week—he is a porter at the Western Literary Institution. On Thursday, 2nd Nov., he called on me before half-past twelve o'clock in the day, and proposed that we should go out together—we went to a public-house, and had two quarterns of gin—I drank one small glass; he drank the remainder with some water—we went to two or three shops—he made purchases at each—he said he would pay me 5s. then, instead of between three and four, which was his usual time—we drank a quartern of rum—I drank about one-third of it, and he the remainder in water again—we then went towards Leicester-square—he was not sober, but was far from drunk—he walked very well—he asked if I would be answerable to a loan society for him for 4l., and if I would he would give me 10s. for the accommodation, and pay me 16s. more off my bill, which Mould be giving me one out of four—I declined—he bit his lips, and appeared confused, and said, "You certainly might do that, for it is a small amount"—I said, "I will do it on no terms whatever," and he was not to ask me such a question again—when we got to his house he went down stairs—I followed a few yards behind him—he was at the kitchen door before I got to the bottom, he stooped down, as I suppose, to put the basket out of his hand at the kitchen door, but he turned round and struck me over the left temple with an instrument between two and three feet long—it was a similar instrument to this (produced)—it struck me on the left temple—I have the mark now—it staggered me at least two yards, but did not strike me to the ground—I recovered myself, and grappled with him by the hips, to try to throw him back on the mat by the kitchen door, but my strength failed me, and he threw me off, lifted his arm again, and the blow fell on my left shoulder—it broke my collar-bone, and I fell down and lost my senses—he did not say one word before he attacked me in this way—I became insensible—after some time I partly came to myself, and in about a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes I contrived to get home—I then fell on the bed and fainted—my head and clothes were covered with blood—I was afterwards seen by Mr. Harding, a surgeon.
Prisoner. I asked him to be security for me two months ago, and he
refused, and I never asked him afterwards; he was stupidly drunk; he followed me into Mr. Bolton's in Leicester-square; he fell from the top of the stairs to the bottom. Witness. I was never in Mr. Bolton's place—I did not fall down the stairs—he has asked me for loans on several occasions.
JOHN MURRELL (policeman, A 305). I was called to the Literary Institution in Leicester-square on the afternoon of 2nd Nov., and took the prisoner into custody—his hands and coat were very bloody—I asked him how his hands came to be in that state—he said in all probability he might have a little scratch on them—I made him wash them, and did not find any scratch—he was not tipsy, but had been drinking—he answered my questions rationally—I afterwards went back to the Institution, and found a quantity of blood at the bottom of the stairs, within two or three feet of the last step, and some splashed on the wall—I found this iron bar bent as it is now, but no blood on it—it appeared very black, as if it had been recently in the fire—I also produce a cap stained with blood, which I found at the prosecutor's house.
WILLIAM HARDING . I am a surgeon. I saw the prosecutor on the day this happened—he was in bed—his head and face were bloody, and on washing it I found a cut over the left eye, and a very considerable bruise and swelling, showing that he had received a severe blow—the skin was divided—it might have been inflicted with such an instrument as this—I examined his shoulder next morning, and found a fracture of the collar-bone, which I think was very likely to have been the consequence of a blow with the same instrument—he is still suffering from the effects of the injury—he is pretty nearly well now.
Prisoner. Q. Was the wound from a blow or a fall? A. I could not tell—it might have been occasioned by a fall—I think that the fracture of the collar-bone was not from a fall—it was broken near the shoulder joint, and a fracture in that situation is generally considered to be occasioned by direct force applied—a fracture from a fall generally takes place in the centre of the bone—I would not say it was impossible.
MR. BODKIN *. Q. Could you form any judgment as to whether both those injuries would be the result of one fall? A. I think they could not.
JOHN MURRELL re-examined. I was present when the prisoner was under examination before Mr. Hardwick—I heard him make a statement which was taken down—I know Mr. Hardwick's writing—this is it—(read—The prisoner says, "I am not aware that I struck Mr. Thomas; I do not recollect his coming to my place at all; he said he would come in the evening to take some tea, for me to let him into the lecture-room; we had been drinking all the afternoon, and I was quite insensible; the piece of iron I had for the purpose of forcing the lock back, and Mr. Thomas knows it; he oiled it for me last Thursday week.")
Prisoner's Defence. We had been drinking; when we came to Mr. Bolton's, in Leicester-square, he forced me in to get a quartern of rum, and then went home; I went up stairs for some article that I wanted, and as I went down, to the best of my recollection, I heard him falling, but being insensible I was not aware of it; I must have gone to lift him up and got a stain on my hand and coat; that is all I know till the clerk of the office rang the bell at four o'clock, and at five Thomas came with the policeman and took me; he begged me off before the Magistrate; I am innocent; I never had any ill feeling towards him; why did not he make a complaint to the clerk in the office, who met him as he was going out of the hall from my apartments full of blood.
GUILTY of an Assault . Aged 31.— Confined Six Months.
64. MARTIN WILLIAMS and WILLIAM FREDERICK WILLIAMS were indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of James Bowie, and stealing therein 2 coats, 2 pairs of trowsers, I waistcoat, I shawl, I table-cloth, and 1 handkerchief, value 5l., his property: 2nd Count, feloniously receiving the same.
MR. O'BRIEN conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN BOWIE . I live at 12, Swan-yard, Shoreditch. The prisoners lived next door to me—on Saturday night, 11th Nov., about a quarter-past ten o'clock, I ascertained that all was right and went to bed—I got up next morning between six and seven; went into the sitting-room and found the drawers pulled out and some of them put on chairs—one of the windows was a little Tip—it was down the night before, to the best of my knowledge—I searched the drawers and missed two coats, two pairs of trowsers, a waistcoat, a shawl, a handkerchief, and a table-cloth—I then went down stairs and found the outer door unlocked and the key lying down inside on the floor—my wife had locked that door the night before—I did not hear her lock it—I gave information to the police about five minutes after—I saw Martin Williams on Sunday evening, 12th—I told him I bad been robbed, and (old him the articles that had been stolen from me—he said it was a very great pity; I might hear of them by and by—he came to me next day and told me he wanted to speak to me in the public-house—I went with him, and he said that he had all my things and I should have them in the evening—he said his son had robbed me, and had robbed him several times before—I went and got a policeman; went back, and asked Martin Williams to go home with me and show me the things—he went home and said be could not find them—we then came down and went to a bed-room down stairs, which the old gentleman said was his room—I saw the policeman turn up the bed there and find two coats, two pairs of trowsers, and a shawl; and a table-cover was in a drawer in the room—these are them (produced).
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. When did you lose your property? A. I did not miss it till Saturday morning—I saw Martin Williams on Sunday evening, and that was the first intimation I got of it—he told me his son had robbed me and he had robbed him several times before and wanted him punished—the son was taken the same night—a silk handkerchief, some beads of my wife's, and several things are still missing—Martin Williams is a very honest fellow, as far as I know—he has a little boy four or five years old—he said that little boy pointed out the bundle to him, that he wanted his son to return it, and he had refused, and on that he came and told me.
JOHN JOHNS (policeman, H. 76.) On 12th Nov., in consequence of a communication made to me by last witness, I went into a public-house and saw Martin Williams there—I heard him say he did not know whether the clothes were in his house or not—I told him I would take him there, and we went—he said, "I know nothing about it, but I will go to my house and see if they are there"—on the way to the house he told me to keep all as quiet as I could, not to let anybody know of it—I went with him to the garret of the bouse, but found nothing—he then went into the back bed-room on the first floor and I followed him—there was a box there, and he took a key out of his pocket and tried to unlock it, but the key would not fit—I searched the room, turned up the bed, and there found, between the bed and mattress, two coats, two pairs of trowsers, a shawl, and a satin waistcoat; and in a drawer I found a table-cloth—Martin Williams said nothing then—I asked him before I found them if he knew anything about them, and he said, no, he knew
nothing at all about them—at the station he said he did not like to rob his neighbour; he believed it was his son did it; he had robbed him before, and he would be likely to be at home at two o'clock in the morning.
Cross-examined. Q. Had he been drinking? A. Yes, very freely—he was very near drunk.
ALFRED HENRY GRANT (policeman, G 62). On Monday evening, 13th Nov. about a quarter to nine o'clock, the prosecutor came to me, and I went in search of the younger prisoner, and found him at a beer-shop in Holywell-lane, Shoreditch—I told him I came about the bundle of clothes—he said, "Oh, I can give a good account of how I came by it"—he said, as he was going home on the Saturday night with a friend of his, he saw a man standing outside the prosecutor's door, and another man came to him to look out of the door, and asked if it was all right; he said, "Yes," and came out; the man came out with a bundle, and, on seeing him, he threw down the bundle, and ran away; he then took up the bundle, and took it in-doors, and put it into the copper; that his father found it in the morning, and told him to take it into Bowie's; he told him he would not, why did not he take it in?
William Frederick Williams. I did not say so; we bad no copper. Witness. Those were the words he used—I know Mr. Hammill's writing—this is his signature to these depositions—(read)—"The said William Frederick Williams saith as follows, 'I had a young man with me on Saturday night, who saw me pick up the bundle and throw it into the shop, I can tell you where he works; his name is George Gamble; he works at Mr. Breton's, Christopher-court, Bunhill-row; I am innocent of the charge'"—I was present when that statement was made—I am not aware that any inquiry has been made after the person he speaks of.
William Frederick Williams's Defence. I own I put the things under the bed; I put them there that my father should not take them back; I thought he might get into disgrace; the thought came over me that I would take them in myself afterwards; I went out, and when I returned, in about a quarter of an hour, the things were gone. MARTIN WILLIAMS— NOT GUILTY .
WILLIAM FREDERICK WILLIAMS— GUILTY of Stealing only .—Aged 18.— Confined Four Months .
65. WILLIAM NORTH , burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Abraham Corbet, and stealing therein 33 pairs of boots, and 24 pairs of shoes, value 10l. 18s.; the goods of the said Abraham Corbet and another.—2nd Count, feloniously receiving the same; having been before convicted.
MR. CAARTEEN conducted the Prosecution.
ABRAHAM CORBET . I live at 13, Adams-row, Hampstead-road, and am a shoemaker, in partnership with another. On Sunday morning, 21st Oct., I locked the shop door, and went to bod, at one o'clock, leaving a quantity of boots, which had been hanging outside, on the floor—I was disturbed about two o'clock by a sudden noise—as I thought some one had burst the door open, I got up—I did not go down stairs—not hearing anything more, I went to bed again—about a quarter of an hour afterwards I was called up by a policeman, went down, and found the shop door lying in the shop, broken off the hinges, and part of the door-post also, and the bolt and lock both broken—I then sent for one of my men, Alfred Prince—I went to bed again, after making up the door, and left my man sitting at the door till eight o'clock next morning—I then examined my stock, and missed twelve pairs of Wellington boots fourteen pairs of bluehers, one pair of nailed boots, twenty-four pairs of children's shoes, and six pairs of children's boots—they were safe
when I went to bed—I did not count them, but I know what I had in my shop—I have seen some of them since—the nailed boots I know, but the others I cannot swear to.
ANN COYNE . I am the wife of Michael Coyne, of 11, Fitzroy-row, New-road. The prisoner was a lodger of mine—on Sunday morning, 21st Oct., I saw him, between eleven and twelve o'clock, at my own door, with a pair of girl's boots, which he said would fit my little girl—I said I had no girl of my own, but my lodger, Connell, had—I took them to fit the girl, but they would not fit her, and I returned them to the prisoner—he brought another pair of boots, which he said would fit my boy—he said he would let me have them for 3s.—I had no mere than half-a-crown, which I gave him—my boy wore them—on the following Monday a man named Cooper came to me, and asked me for the boots, and I gave them to him, and he gave them to a policeman, who was in the passage—I saw the policeman with the girl's boots; I know they were the same—when I returned them I took them into Cooper's room—he took some salt, put it on the bottom, rubbed them very hard, and stained the leather—when I saw them again they were so stained—there was a number on them; I think it was "3," but am not quite certain—these produced are the same, and these are the boy's boots (looking at them).
GEORGE LUCK (policeman, S 345). On Monday morning, 23rd Oct, about three o'clock, a man named William Cooper came to me, and gave me some information—the prisoner was already in custody for creating a disturbance—I went with Cooper to 11, Fitzroy-row, and he there gave me this pair of girl's boots (produced)—I did not see where he got them from—he gave them me in the passage, against the front door—I afterwards found a pair of nailed boots—Cooper and Mrs. Coyne were in the house at the time—Corbet's house is in St. Pancras' parish.
ALFRED PRINCE . I live at 26, Henry-street, Hampstead-road, and work for Mr. Corbet. On the Saturday night, or Sunday morning, I was fetched by a policeman to my master's premises—I remained, and took care of them, till eight o'clock, Sunday morning—I then examined the stock, and missed twelve pairs of Wellington boots, and fourteen pairs of bluchers—they were all safe on the Saturday night—I had seen them at nearly one o'clock—this pair of girl's boots are Mr. Corbet's property—these initials, "H. P.," on the bottom, is a private mark which I made myself—this other pair are not in a saleable condition, and were never sold out of my master's shop—we never sold a pair without punching them for the laces—I cannot say when I had seen this particular pair before—this other pair are boy's nailed boots—we only received four pairs of these on the Saturday, at mid-day, and they were lost on the Sunday, I had not sold a pair—they then had no holes, and were not in a saleable state—they have since been pierced with a kind of small awl, or something of that sort, not in a proper way.
ABRAHAM CORBET re-examined. These girl's boots are ours—I know them by the appearance and the work—I only keep one man that makes these, and there is a private mark on them—I swear to their being our property—Fitzroy-square is about three minutes' walk from our shop.
Prisoner's Defence. I know nothing of the robbery; Cooper gave me these two pairs of boots on the Sunday morning, to take down to sell to the landlady.
GUILTY . Aged 24.— Transported for Ten Years.
ROBERT TAYLOR . I live in Bishopsgate-street. Some time before the 12th Nov. I was barman at the King's Arms, it is sometimes called the Cat, in Beech-street—I have seen the prisoners there frequently—I was there on Sunday night, 12th Nov., in the wholesale-department—the prisoners were then in the retail-department, which is separate from the wholesale—whilst there Carter used a blackguard expression to me, and they said how they would serve me if they could get at me—he attempted to get at me, but could not—after a short time I went out—the prisoners followed me out together—I hud got about half-a-dozen yards, and then Carter struck me a severe blow on the jaw and knocked me down—Hurren was close to him—Carter made a grab at my scarf, in which I had a pin—I saw it safe immediately before coming out of the house—he then ran away—the scarf was partly pulled out of my waistcoat—immediately I got up I missed my pin—I immediately ran round the corner, called "Police!" and the prisoners were taken into custody.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. What time was it? A. About twelve o'clock, or a quarter-past—I had not got a black eye; I had not been quarrelling with a baker about an hour before, and the landlord did not send a man to try to pacify me—I was barman at the Cat about a week, and left about three weeks before—there might have been some ill-feeling between me and Carter about his having passed some bad money—I did not call him a smasher; the only remark I made was, that when taking his money I had been told by my employer to look at what money I took, and when I did so he said, "What are you looking at so particularly?" and I said, "I am obliged to look at what I take particularly"—he tried to get to me, but was prevented by the landlord coming in—he appeared to be very violent—he appeared sober—I waited for half or three-quarters of an hour to avoid him—he still waited for me—I have not found my pin.
GEORGE GREEN . I am a music-seller, of 27, Featherstone-street, St. Luke's. On Sunday night, 12th Nov., about a quarter-past twelve o'clock, I was passing the Cat, and saw Carter strike Taylor a blow which knocked him down—he came against me, and then fell—I heard Carter say, "I have been waiting for you," and I heard Hurren say to Carter, "Hook it, " and they both went away together—they walked for a few yards, increasing gradually to a run.
Cross-examined.Q. Hook it means cut your stick, or "run," does it not? A. I imagine so—that was said as the man was calling "Police!"—the louder he cried, the faster they ran—Hurren did not interfere in the scuffle.
FREDERICK JACQUES . I am a pastry-cook, at Beech-street, Barbican. On Sunday night, 12th Nov., about twelve o'clock or a quarter-past, I was in the bar of the King's Arms, and saw the prisoners in company—I tried to shun their company—Carter asked me if I knew the prosecutor when he lived at Mr. Gamble's—I said I had no recollection of him—he said that on one occasion, when he lived there, he had called him a smasher, or something of that sort, for which he would break his head—the prosecutor was then in a separate place from the prisoners—about five minutes after the prosecutor came out, and the prisoners followed directly—Carter knocked him down—I expected a disturbance—lfurren said to Carter, "Come on, you b——; they are after you'—they ran away—Hurren was close by when the blow was struck—they walked till they got opposite the next house, and then they ran
down the street at the back of my shop—I went another way, met them, and they were taken—I did not hear either of them say anything about the pin.
Cross-examined. Q. You expected a scuffle? A. Yes; from what Cairter said, I knew he meant to pitch into him when he came out—there were a good many people in the public-house—Carter said this before them all—after the scuffle, Hurren said to Carter, "D—your eyes, hook it; they are after you"—Hurren did not interfere in the scuffle at all, only when Taylor called "Police!" he said, "Hook it."
COURT. Q. He used both those expressions? A. Yes—when he said, "Hook it," Taylor was gone round Whitecross-street for a policeman—I have heard hook it explained as "walking or running away."
(The prisoners received good characters.)
HURREN— NOT GUILTY .
CARTER— GUILTY of an Assault. Aged 21.— Confined One Month .
NEW COURT.—Thursday, November 30th, 1848.
PRESENT—SIR PETER LAUUIE, Knt., Aid.; SIR CHAPMAN-MARSHALL, Knt., Ald.; Mr. Ald. GIBBS; Mr. RECORDER; and Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE.
Before Mr. Recorder and the Sixth Jury.
GUILTY —Aged 17.— Confined One Month .
GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined One Month .
69. WILLIAM M'CARTHY , stealing 1 chain, value 9s.; the goods of Josiah St. John and another; also 1 pair of steps, value 15s.; the goods of James Power; having been before convicted; to which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 24— Transported for Seven Years
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Three Month .
THOMASINA FARMERY . I was in St. Paul's-churchyard on 28th Nov.—I had a purse in my pocket containing eight shillings and sixpence and three fourpenny-pieces—my attention was called by an officer who showed me my purse—I had not missed it—this is it (produced).
MICHAEL HAYDON (City-policeman, 21). I saw the two prisoners—the younger one walked by the side of the prosecutrix—he put his hand in her pocket—the elder one walked close behind him—I got close to them, and the eldest prisoner said, "Have you got it?"—the younger one replied, "Yes"—they walked down a court—I followed them, and took the younger one—I took from his hand this purse, and with assistance I secured both the prisoners.
WILLIAM PHILLIPS, Jun.— GUILTY . * Aged 14.
WILLIAM PHILLIPS— GUILTY . Aged 16.
Confined Two Months.
72. JANE BAILEY and JAMES HORNETT , stealing 1 desk, 2 knives, and 1 snuff-box, value 17l., and 5 5l.-Bank-notes; the property of Elizabeth Norcraft, in her dwelling-house.—2nd COUNT, feloniously receiving the same.
MR. HUDDLESTON conducted the Prosecution.
ELIZABETH NORCRAFT . I was formerly a houskeeper, I afterwards took a house, No. 22, York-street, in the parish of St. Marylebone. The prisoner Bailey was introduced to me by a lady who came to lodge in my house, and was employed by me on loth, 16th, and 17th of Aug. at needlework—she used to work in the front attic—I had a writing-desk in that room—I last saw it safe on the loth Aug., when I dusted it—I had in it two silver watches, two silver pen-knives, two pair of silver scissors, a valuable pearl snuff-box, a smelling-bottle, and various other things, and 37l. in money—there were seven 5l.-notes which I hid received from Major Angelo—Bailey had complained of the state of her health several times on the 16th and 17th—she said she had the toothache—on the 16th she said she had the mumps—on the evening of the 16th I said it was dark, we could not see to work—she said she could, and I went down, and left her in the room alone—she came down in about ten minutes—she then went upstairs with a candle, to fetch her clothes, and said she would come again at seven o'clock in the morning—she came down, and her candle was out—she put it down in an agitated way, and ran upstairs very quickly, and shut the door after her—I did not see the bundle that she brought down—she was in the dark—I had no suspicion of her, but she went out in great haste—I missed my desk on Thursday the 17th—she had been to work that day—I had before told her that if I lost that desk I was ruined, for everything I possessed was in it, and on the Tuesday she asked me if I had paid my rent and taxes—I said, "No; I had been so ill, and it had been so wet I had not gone out."
Cross-examined by MR. WILDE.Q. Are you quite sure as to the day on which you lost this desk? A. I am sure it was taken on the 16th—I missed it on the 17th, between seven and eight in the evening—she had been gone about a quarter of an hour—I have not charged any one but her with stealing it—I had a carpenter there at work on the Saturday, and on Monday the 14th—on the Tuesday he was not there—I took the desk up on Monday night the 14th, when I went to bed—it never was up there before that—I took the carpenter up on suspicion.
COURT. Q. Did he work there after the Monday? A. He came on the Wednesday and I took him up into the room—I never recollect seeing the desk after the loth—on the 16th I did not notice it—the carpenter went up on the 16th, but I went up with him—I staid till he had put a castor on the bed, and he and I went down together—I left Bailey in the room—I did not notice the desk—it stood on the left-hand side of a pair of drawers that was between the two windows.
MR. WILDE. Q. Were you at home during the whole of the 15th and 16th? A. Yes; I never left my house at all—there were other persons there, but they went no further than the parlour-door—as far as I know they did not go upstairs—I saw a man in the house on the Tuesday with a post-office order—I dusted my desk that day, between eleven and twelve o'clock—the man came about four—I saw him in the passage—I was in the passage, and then in my little room—I can see the passage from my little room—Bailey was strongly recommended to me, and I recommended her to my friends—I should have got her a situation—on the Monday morning the carpenter put a little bit of brass into the key-hole of the desk—he put it in with a bit of glue.
COURT. Q. Had he any basket, such as carpenters have, large enough to
put the desk in? A. He had a basket, but not very big—there was nothing in it but a few nails and his hammer, and so on—I do not think it was large enough to have covered my desk—the carpenter is not here—he was cleared—Mr. Broughton saw nothing against him—I told him he was never in the room alone—Mr. Broughton said, why did I suspect him—I said I did not—that was in the morning, when Bailey was liberated because I had not sufficient evidence to retain her—after that was over I came out, and my friends said, "It is the carpenter"—I said, "Perhaps it would be as well for him to have a hearing"—we went in, and Mr. Broughton said, "Have you anything more against him?"—I said, "No."
MR. HUDDLESTON. Q. At the time Bailey was discharged, had you discovered that the notes had been changed by Hornett? A. No.
JAMES NIXON . I keep the house, 24, Francis-street, Tottenham-court-road. Bailey came to lodge there on the 2nd of August—she had a little back room, for which she was to pay 4s. 6d. a week—I asked her for a deposits—she said she had not got one: she was a poor servant girl out of place, and she wanted a cheap room—I know Hornett by seeing him come to the house to see Bailey—Hornett made application to me with respect to my coffee-shop, which he wished to take—he wished to know what I would let him have it for—he said he expected some money from his uncle, and he would consult with bis brother—his brother and he came about it, but I did not let him have it—this was about the 8th of August—on the 11th or 12th I applied to Bailey for rent—she said she had no money then, but she would pay me the two weeks together—on the 18th she gave me half a sovereign and I gave her a shilling—there was 9s. for two weeks' rent—on the morning of the 19th she bought a pair of boots of me—I think she paid me 4s. 6d. for them—I saw at that time that she had gold and silver to the amount of between 3l. and 4l:—Hornett used to come to see her occasionally—I saw him there about four days before Bailey paid me—he had been there between the 11th or 12th and the time I was paid.
Cross-examined by MR. CLAKKSON. Q. Was it not three weeks before the 17th of August that Bailey came to you? A. No, two weeks—it was on the 15th her rent was due, and on the 18th she paid me.
Cross-examined by MR. WILDE. Q. Are you certain it was on the 18th she paid you the rent? A. Yes—on this memorandum (looking at one) it says, "August the 8th, received one week, 4s. 6d., the 15th, received one week, 4s. 6d."—that is when the rent was due—that is my way of putting it down—I received it on the 18th.
CHRISTOPHER RIPLET . My mother and myself live at No. 8, Cbapel-street, Tottenham-court-road—Hornett lodged there—Bailey took the lodging for him some time in June, at 3s. a week—she said it was for her brother—I applied to him about three weeks before the 17th of August for three weeks' rent—he told me to make out his bill, he would speak to his sister, and I should be paid—I made him out a bill of 9s. for three weeks' rent, and he paid it me about a fortnight before he left—he left on 17th August—I very frequently saw Bailey at Homett's—she came to my house on the night of 16th August, between eight and nine o'clock—she had a paper parcel similar to a letter wrapped in paper—she asked for James—I said he was gone to the theatre—she appeared very much excited, and said she must see him very particularly; she had a letter from his uncle, who was very ill indeed, and she must see him that night—she asked me to send my lad to the theatre to fetch him out—I said I could not think of such a thing; it was very full—she was rather troublesome, and I said, "If you must see him you had better take a candle and go up in his room and wait for him"—the shop is rather
small, and I sent her up to be out of the way—she went up stairs—she came down two or three times afterwards to know if he was come in, and he was not—I went to bed about half-past eleven o'clock, leaving her in the room—in the morning Hornett called me up between six and seven o'clock—he said, "Ripley, I wish you would get up and get me a cup of coffee; I must go into the country, and I want to pay you"—I got it for him—Bailey breakfasted with him—I cannot say whether she came from out of the house, or whether she came down stairs—she had a parcel with her as large as a gown—it seemed to be something soft, and was in brown paper—I made out Hor-nett's bill—it came to 16s.—he gave me a new 5l. note to pay it—I had not change for it, and I gave it him back—my boy, William Leech, came down in about half an hour, and I saw that Mr. Dobree, the pawnbroker, was opening his shop—I said to Hornett, "I can get change for you now, Sir"—he gave the note to Leech, and he went and got it changed—Hornett then paid me my 16s.—he said he was going to the Eastern Counties Railway, and he went away in a cab—Bailey had gone away first with the parcel.
WILLIAM THOMAS BLISS . I am in the employ of Mr. Dobree, the pawnbroker. I have no recollection of Leech coming, but on the back of this note, No. 15076, here is, in my writing, 17, 1848—that indicates that I changed it on 17th Aug.
SAMUEL LOWE . I am a tailor, in Barbican. Hornett came to my shop to buy a pair of trowsers—I cannot tell the date, but it was on the Monday morning before 24th Aug.—I think it was about the 20th or 21st—he paid for there with a new 5l. note—this is it, No. 15075—I wrote on it the name which he gave me. "Smith, 10, Bedford-row, Cambridge"—he said he was lodging in Whitccross-strert tor a short time, but his residence was at Cambridge.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. When did you pay the note away? A. On the 24th—I had not seen Hornett before, to my knowledge—he came about eight o'clock in the morning—I saw him again about a fortnight afterwards—I am sure he did not say "Cambridge—heath"—he said "Cambridge," because I asked him if he knew a Mr. Watson, whe had been a neighbour of mine, and who had got a shop there, and he said he knew the shop—to the best-of my belief Hornett is the man—I know we are all liable to mistakes—I have not any doubt that he is the man.
MAJOR RICHARD ANGLLO . I have lodged at Mrs. Norcroft's since June, 1847—in May last 1 received from Glyn's fifty 5l.-notes, numbered consecutively from No. 15051 to 15100—I spent them as I required them—I did not take the numbers regularly till I came to 15073—I had spent the numbers before 13073 before June—I paid Mrs. Norcroft ten, the notes from No. 15075 to 15085.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. You have a memorandum here?. A. Yes—I made this on Thursday night, 17th Aug., when Mrs. Norcroft spoke of her loss—I made it from my pocket-book, which I have here—here are the numbers of the notes I give her.
ELIZABETH NORCERAFAT re-examined. I saw Horne't at my house on Tuesday,
15th Aug.—he was in my passage—he called to see Bailey, as I understood, with a Post-office order.
WILLAM MOSES . I am a potman, in York-street, next door to Mrs. Norcraft. I saw Hornett at the corner of the mews, with his hands on the post, in the after part of the day—he was looking up to the top of the house—after he had been looking a little time, a female looked out of the attic window—it was Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday, I am not certain which—I think I heard of the robbery on Friday; it was in that week—I did not know which house Hornett was looking at, till I saw the female look out at 22—that female resembled the female prisoner—Hornett left where he was standing, went to the door, and placed his hand to the bell—I was not close enough to hear whether he pulled it—I was on the opposite side of the street—I cannot tell whether he pulled it or not—he stood back against the partition-board, as if he did not want to be seen—I did not stop to see whether he went in, as I was on my business.
Bailey. I had worked four days in her kitchen.
ELIZABETH NORCRAFT re-examined. She did, but not on that occasion—she told me in the morning that she expected a Post-office order—I did not hear what Hornett said to her in the passage—she Said it was too late.
(George Walsh Hallam, Esq., a Magistrate of Hertfordshire, in whose service the prisoners had lived, gave them a good character.)
BAILEY GUILTY of stealing. Aged 29
HORNETT GUILTY of receiving. Aged 24
Transported for Seven Years.
MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.
MR. PRENDBRGAST. Q. Was there not a written agreement? A. Yes—it is not here.
NOT GUILTY .
(The prisoner was also charged with stealing a ton of coals, upon which MR. BALLANTINE offered no evidence.)
74. ISABELLA HAWKINS , feloniously receiving 900 yards of ribbon, 14 yards of silk, and other articles, value 24l. 12s. 5d.; the goods of Edward Wason Freestone, knowing them to have been stolen. (See page 24.)
MR. PARRY conducted the Prosecution.
EDWARD WASON FREESTONE . I am a bonnet-manufacturer, of High-street, Shoreditch. Maria Borreman was my servant. On 24th Oct. I spoke to her, and her box was searched by a constable, and these ribbons and cap-fronts found in it, and a piece of paper which had covered a draper's parcel, with the prisoner's address on it—I gave the girl in charge, and went to the prisoner's house, 5, Trafalgar-road, Dalston, between ten and eleven o'clock in the day—she came to the door—I said, "Is your name Hawkins?"—she said, "Yes; I believe you are after Maria"—I said, "My name is Freestone; I believe you are the aunt of Maria, who lives with me"—she said, "No; I am a distant relation"—I said, "She has been robbing me, and I believe you have some boxes here belonging to her"—she said she had one that was in the front kitchen—she was very much agitated—I said I did not wish to injure her, and told her to compose herself—I went into the kitchen—the box was locked—the policeman opened it with a key taken from Borreman—we found
in it some towels, with my mark, and a roll of ribbon—I said, "Is this all?"—she said, 'Yes"—I said, "Are you positive?"—she-said, "Yes"—I said, "I am satisfied to the contrary; I have two letters, which prove you have two silk dresses here belonging to Maria," and insisted on searching the house—she said we had no right—I told the officer to proceed—she said, "There is another box at the top of the stairs, on the landing," she took me there and showed it me—the policeman unlocked it with one of the keys, and found upwards of 900 yards of ribbon, some straw trimming, a small portion of lace, and some silk cord—some of the ribbon is worth 8d. a yard, but taking it at 4d. it is worth 15l.—it is new, and cut off in lengths of three or four yards each, from pieces which I have brought here—here are also a dozen rolls of ribbon, some with thirty-six yards, and some less—this parcel was found behind the door of the children's room, at the bottom of a basket of dirty clothes—it contained a handkerchief, a pair of stockings, (from which the mark had been tried to be erased,) and some ribbons and flowers—there were two bonnets on the bed—I said, "That is one of our ribbons"—we had bonnets trimmed with it, and if they do not sell, we take the ribbon off—she said, "Maria gave me that, and said one of the young ladies at your house gave it her"—that is nt ver done, it would be put on a lower-priced bonnet—in a cupboard in the front sitting-room I found a black silk dress, worth 36s. or 38s—I had silk like it—my servant slept in the house, and had no occasion to have a trunk at the prisoner's—three or four other boxes, locked, were pointed out as belonging to her—I found in them some books, (one of which I identify,) some plaid silk for a dress, some new stockings and boots—there was nothing which was not under lock and key, but the ribbon on the bonnet and the parcel behind the door—the value of the things I identify is from 20l. to 30l., independent of those in the three or four boxes.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Is not the prisoner's husband a most respectable man, working for a Mr. Devaux, a merchant? A. Yes—the boxes were left there till the evening—the prisoner claimed none of the things in the boxes—she did not show me the silk dress, I found it—she said Maria always kept her boxes locked, and when she came home she always went to them alone—she said, "I was not aware she had such things here"—she may have said, "I am taken by surprise"—between five and six the same evening, after leaving the police court, I went with Holland and Holmes to the house—she afforded us every facility to examine it—she held up a cambric handkerchief to me, with my wife's name on it, and said I had dropped it in the morning when I went away—we searched, and found a few trivial things—a great many things in the boxes did not belong to me, but these were new things, some very expensive—Borreman did not dress expensively—I found the boxes as I had left them in the morning—I found a few pieces of ribbon in some small cigar-boxes—she said the girl had brought the parcel there a fortnight before, and she did not know what was in it—one box was larger than an ordinary servant's box.
WILLIAM HOLLAND (policeman, N 146). I took the prisoner, and told her the charge—she said, "That girl has brought me into all this trouble; the boxes were always locked; she always kept the keys"—I saw this handkerchief in Mr. Freestone's hands—he called my attention to the private mark on it—the prisoner said, "The policeman left that in the morning"—I searched the house, and found four boxes and some bundles—the prisoner gave me every facilitv—she claimed none of the propertymixed with Borreman's—her husband is a highly respectable gentleman, and lived in the house.
NOT GUILTY .
JOB SMITH (policeman, G 44). I went with Turpin, on 27th Oct., to 53, Baldwin-street, City-road, and took the prisoner there—I searched the room in his presence, and found some duplicates in a box, in a pocket-book (produced).
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. What did she give for them? A. 3s. 6d. for six—he said, "They belong to Miss Bailey, at our house," and she was obliged to part with them, as she was unfortunate.
MARIAN BAILEY . I am single, and live with my brother and sister, at 29, Gresham-street. The prisoner was porter there—I missed a great number of articles, and charged him—he owned it, and said he would bring them all back—I said he had sold the knives and forks—he said he had not—I said he had, at the Bell—I never authorized him to sell anything—these knives and forks and snuff-box are ours—the counterpanes are worth 1l. each.
Cross-examined. Q. What is the house? A. Offices—the prisoner used to keep them, and his wife to clean them, and lived rent free—I and my sister do so now—my father and mother are dead, and the things are our joint property—I never gave the prisoner or his wife things to pawn for me—I have pawned things myself while the prisoner was there—his wife never went with me—she went once with my sister—I did not miss the knives till Aug., and the other things afterwards—my father left a will—I do not know whether it was proved—I did not agree with the prisoner to pay me for these things—he said he would bring them back, and make it all right, but he set us at defiance, and I gave him in charge a month afterwards—I did not miss the snuff-box till the policeman produced ir—we have not found one quarter of the things—I missed one shilling out of my tea-caddy.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined Six Months.
OLD COURT.—Friday, December 1st, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. JUSTICE COLTMAN; Sir PETER LAURIE, Knt., Ald.; Mr. Ald. MOON; Mr. Ald. SALOMONS; Mr. COMMOS SERJEANT; and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq., and the First Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 29.— Confined One Year .
78. WILLIAM DAY , burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Samuel Reed, and stealing 1 coat, and 1 pair of gloves, value 6s.; the goods of James Charles Webb; I seal, 1d.; the goods of Thomas Cutler; and 1 hand vice, I seal, I cornelian, 2 rings, and 1 ear-drop, 6s.; the goods of the said Samuel Reed; to which he pleaded
GUILTY .— Transported for Seven Years.
GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Four Months.
81. JOHN SULLIVAN, GEORGE POWELL , and GEORGE TURNER , stealing 2 jackets, and other articles, value 3l.; the goods of William Henman; and 1 waistcoat, and 1 pair of trowsers, 15s.; the goods of Thomas Nowlan, in a vessel; having been before convicted; to which
SULLIVAN pleaded GUILTY . Aged 18.
POWELL pleaded GUILTY . Aged 17.
TURNER pleaded GUILTY . Aged 17.
Transported for Seven Years.
GUILTY . Aged 15.— Transported for Seven Years.
GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Twelve Months.
GUILTY . Aged 30.— Confined Four Months.
GUILTY .— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Transported for Seven Years.
The property belonging to Ernest Benson and another, the prisoner was
Before Mr. Justice Coltman.
GUILTY of an Assault. — Confined Twelve Months,
MR. METCALFE conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN WEATHERLEY . I am a confectioner. On the night of 14th Nov., about half-past twelve o'clock, I was going through Holloway, near the brewery on the right hand path—I had a brown paper parcel under my arm, containing a pair of boots—I met the prisoners walking together towards me—they parted to make way for me to pass between them, and as I did so Lawford attempted to strike me—I parried the blow, and Knight struck me on the head with his fist, and knocked my hat off—I got away from them and began shouting out for the police—they advanced towards me and followed me—I kept retreating from them, baching out, and they were menacing, and attempted to pick up stones—Lawford said they would soon stop my noise—I continued calling police, and retreated some little distance—Lawford left Knight, and attempted to make liis escape up a turning which was no thorough-fjre—by that time I had got to Highbury gates, and got the assistance of the police—I lost sight of Lawford, and followed Knight till I got to the lower road—I did not lose sight of him till the policeman caught him—Lawford came up at the time Knight was being taken, as if he was a perfect stranger—I recognized him, and gave him in charge also—I am quite convinced he is the person—the transaction took place under a gas lamp, and it was a moonlight night—I had plenty of opportunity of seeing him—not a word was said by me or them before they attempted to strike me—Lawford was slightly intoxicated, but far from being insensible.
Knight. I was two yards past him when his hat was knocked off. Witness. No he was not—it was Knight knocked my hat off.
HENRY HALE . On the night of 14th Nov., about half-past twelve o'clock, I was following the prosecutor about fifty yards from him—I heard a cry of "Police!" listened, and in the course of a few minutes heard cries of "Stop thief!" and saw Lawford part from Knight—I gave chase with the prosecutor after Knight, and came up with him at Highbury Chapel, and saw him taken—I saw Lawford come up—they are the same two persons that I had seen with the prosecutor.
WILLIAM PEARSON (policeman, N 390). On 14th Nov. I saw Knight near Highbury, running, and the prosecutor after him—I took him into custody—Lawford come up, and I took him also—the prosecutor charged them with an assault with intent to rob him—Knight said he had done nothing—Lawford said nothing.
Lawford'a Defence. I was at work at the York Railway, and the foreman
gave us a supper that night at the Plough, Ilornsey-lane; "have bad a little too much to drink; tliere was no attempt to rob the prosecutor.
Knight's Defence. If I had not been intoxicated I should not have offered to do such a thing; I did not touch his hat.
(The prisoners received good characters.)
GUILTY of an Assault. Confined Six Weeks .
MR. EWART conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM HOUSTON . I am a builder at 18, Praed-street, Paddington. On Sunday night, 29th Oct., I was going along Albany-street, and met the prisoner—I had seen her before—she said she knew me, and asked me to accompany her to her place, and I went with her to 8, Fitzroy-row, I think—I went in with her, and she desired two females who were in the room to go and get something to drink—they were gone about five minutes, and brought what I understood to be rum—she gave me a glass of it—I had had two or three small glasses of gin-and-water before, not more than that, but was not tipsy—I almost immediately became insensible—on recovering, about seven o'clock in the morning, I missed my watch, a scarf, a silk guard-chain and gold clasp to it, three sovereigns and thirteen shillings—I am quite sure I had them before I went into the house—I gave information to the police.
COURT. Q. Did the prisoner have any of the rum? A. I do not know—I did not see her—I do not know whether the other women had any—while I was drinking it theywent out of the room—I was sitting in a chair when I drank the rum, and I was sitting in the same place when I awoke in the morning—it appeared to me to be rum by the taste—I did not observe any bad taste as if anything was mixed with it.
GEORGE COOPER (policeman, S 276). On 5th Nov., in consequence of information, I went to apprehend the prisoner at 7, Fitzroy-row, I found her—I searched the room and found five duplicates, one of which refers to a scarf—at the police-court the next day she said she found it in the New-road.
ALFRED ROBERT WOOD . I conduct my mother's business, a pawnbroker at 65, High-street, St. Giles's—on 31st Oct. I took this scarf (produced) in pledge in the name of Ann White, 5, Drury-lane, and gave a duplicate for it—this produced is it—it was a woman that pledged it—I do not know whether it was the prisoner or not.
Prisoner. I have nothing to say.
GUILTY of Stealing the Scarf from the Person. — Transported for Ten Years.
MR. WILDE conducted the Prosecution.
STEPHEN WARWICK . I live at 1, Northampton-square, in the parish of St. James's, Clerkenwell. On Sunday morning, 19th Nov., about twenty nmiutes past twelve o'clock, I was called up by a police-officer, and found the front kitchen shutter broken open and the sash off, a pane of glass broken, the sash-fastening pulled back, and the sash thrown up—I had seen it fast at half-past eleven—I always go round the house and examine the doors and windows, having been robbed before.
SARAH EXALL . I am servant to Mr. Warwick—I was in the kitchen that night at eleven o'clock—I had previously put the shutters to at five o'clock, and put the bar up between six and seven—the window was then fastened—on Sunday morning the window was broken, and the bottom hinge off—I had slept through the disturbance—the window had not been opened during the day.
JAMES COBBETT (policeman, A 410). On Sunday morning, 19th Nov., about ten minutes past twelve o'clock, I was on duty in Northampton-square, and saw the two prisoners come up Ashby-street, from St. John-street-road—they stayed a minute or two and then got over the prosecutor's railing, and went down the steps into the area—they did not see me—I was standing under a tree in the centre of the square, under the enclosure—I stood there about ten minutes—I heard a pane of glass break and the scrooping of shutters, a curious noise as though any one was wrenching them open—I then went across the road, looked over the railing, and saw Cotterell go from the window into the coal-house under the pavement—I said, "Who is there?" three times, and got no answer—I then called another constable, went over the railing down the area, and saw both the prisoners standing in a corner of the coal-house—I asked Cotterell what he wanted there, and he said he had dropped his hat into the area—I asked Jones what he wanted there—he said he dropped his knife—they said they heard me coming, were frightened, and got into the coal-house out of the way—I examined the window and found it and the shutter broken.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. The outside shutter do you mean? A. The shutters are inside—a square of glass was broken opposite the fastening, so that any one could pull the fastening back—the fastening was pulled back and the bottom sash thrown up—the inside shutter was forced in about two inches from the bottom and the screws forced—no person could get in in. the state the shutters were then in—I went into the kitchen, after calling Mr. Warwick—there was a wooden bar across the shutters then still up.
BENJAMIN PHILLIPS (policeman, D 58). I was with Cobbett—he left me outside—I saw Cotterell in the area—I knocked at the door, and Mr. Warwick let me in—while knocking I saw Jones come out of the coal vault, the door of which was standing open—there was no fastening to it—I afterwards went in there and found this dark lantern and a jemmy (produced.)
JAMES COBBETT re-examined. The pane of glass was not wholly taken out, only the bottom part of it—there was room enough for a person's hand to be put in to unfasten the window—it might be done with a chisel or other instrument—you could put your thumb and two or three fingers through—the fracture was close to the fastening.
(MR. PARRY submitted that a sufficient entry was not proved to sustain the charge, no part of the person of the prisoners having been proved to be introduced. The COURT left it to the Jury to say whether the hand was or was not introduced to undo the fastening.)
JONES— GUILTY . Aged 19.
COTTERELL— GUILTY . Aged 18.
Transported for The Years.
where I keep flys. On the night of 5th Nov. there wns one fly there of mine, and one belonging to John Steven Clements, standing at livery—I have no doubt they were sale when I shut up at eleven o'clock—I did not look inside them—next morning I saw Morrell, who had the leather lining of the fly—in consequence of what he said, I went into the yard and found the squab of the two flys torn out altogether, and the horse-hair with it—they were worth about 35s.—the leather that Morrell showed me matched exactly.
WILLIAM MORRELL . (policeman, N 135). On Monday morning, 6th Nov., about half-past six o'clock, I met the prisoner with a lanje bundle of horse-hair under his arm—I asked him where he got it—he said he found it in a field—I saw part of the back lining of a carriage sticking out of his pocket, and asked him where he got it from—he said he had brought it from home, it was the lining he had torn out of his mother's old cloak—I took him to the station—I afterwards went back, and, thrown over a garden wall, close to where I found the prisoner, I found the remaining portion of the lining—I afterwards went with the lining to Mr. Woodford's, and it matched with the carriages in his yard—it made up all that was wanting.
Prisoner's Defence. I found it hid under some turf in a field.
(The prisoner received a g'ood character.)
GUILTY . Aged 14.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Twelve Months.
JOSEPH MONKHOUSE . I am an apprentice on board the Elizabeth Archer—the prisoner came on board there last Tuesday, and asked if I had any old clothes for sale—I said, "No"—there was a pair of old shoes in the forecastle; he asked if he might have them; I said, "Yes"—I came out of the forecastle, shut the door, and went to my dinner, leaving a jacket on the pig-house—when I came back I found a policeman had him in custody, and the jacket was gone—I afterwards saw it at the police-station.
Prisoner. I asked you if I might have the old jacket and the old shoes. Witness. Xo, he only asked me for the shoes—at the station he asked me to look over it, and he would treat me well the next day.
WILLIAM FISHER (policeman, H 100). On Tuesday last, 28th Nov., I saw the prisoner on the Spirit-quay, London-docks, coming from where the Elizabeth Archer was lying—I asked him what lie had got—he said two old jackets and a pair of shoes that the apprentice had given him—he said the apprentices were on board—he went and showed me the ship, and then he said they were gone away to dinner—I took him to the station, left the jackets there, and brought him on board—when the apprentice came on board I asked him if he bad given the prisoner the jacket—he said, "No."
Prisoner's Defence. The young man gave me the jackets and the old shoes.
GUILTY .— Confined Five Months.
me by my brother, the prisoner, Rose, and my nephew; they all brought it together—I know it to be mine—I was looking over the first-quality tier of wood a fortnight previous, and saw this particular piece among it—I took such notice of it as to be able to know it again—I was quite certain, as soon as I saw it, that it was my property.
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. I believe the prisoner has borne the highest character? A. Yes—the Magistrate admitted him to bail—as soon as he was spoken to about the board, he said that on the Saturday Mr. Moth had given him a board to saw to put a cut in—he did not tell me he had brought that board and left it in my place on the Saturday evening, and after he had received his money, it being dark, he took this board, thinking it was his—if he had told me that, I should not have taken any steps—he did not say a word till after he was out on bail—I saw Mr. Moth on Monday—he saw the board at the station—he said he had given him a board, but he did not believe that to be the board—he had had it in the place about a twelvemonth, and it was much more soiled—he did not say, in my presence, that it was extremely like it; but looking more closely at it, he did not think it was it—the prisoner was paid, I should think, on Saturday about six o'clock—I do not think it was as late as seven—I did not search for Mr. Moth's board on my premises—I had no idea there was any board there—I am aware that the prisoner did some work previously for Mr. Moth, to cut boards in two—he did not use my tools—he never cut anything on my premises—I believe he cut them at Mr. Todd's.
COURT. Q. What passed between you and the prisoner on the Monday morning? A. I stated to the prisoner that that was my property—he said he had received a board from a Mr. Moth, a greengrocer in the New-road, to put a cut in—my brother, the two other parties, and the prisoner went down to Mr. Moth—all four returned with the board in their possession—one of them, I do not recollect which, said that when Mr. Moth saw the board, he said he had given him a board on the Saturday evening something like the one in their possession—he could not swear to it, but believed it was not the one—the prisoner still persisted in his innocence, saying that he hoped he should not move from the place if that was not the board he had received from Mr. Moth—I told him I had no other step—to take to prove who were the guilty parties without taking him and the greengrocer before a Magistrate—I was confident that one of them had robbed me of that board—during the three years the prisoner was with me he conducted himself in a very praiseworthy manner.
MR. O'BRIEN. Q. Were there a number of boards of all sizes and descriptions lying about your premises where he stated he placed the board? A. Yes—it has never occurred to me that a mistake might be made.
WILLIAM TAUNTON . I am pot-boy at the Enterprize, in June-street, Chelsea. On Saturday evening, 4th Nov., the prisoner came to my master's about seven in the evening—he told me he had taken a board into the back-garden, and asked me to take care of it till Monday—he said it was a job he had got, and it came to fourpence—his partner Rose came in about five minutes to twelve that night, gave me some directions, and on Monday morning I delivered it up to the prisoner and his partner—Mr. Arthur's brother and nephew were with them—Rose is a sawyer in Mr. Arthur's employ.
Cross-examined. Q. Have you seen Rose here to day? A. Yes—the prosecutor's nephew was with the prisoner when he came on the Saturday evennig, and had a pot of porter.
in a new road cut through a brick-field at the top of North-street, Chelsea—he had a board with him—his partner Rose was with me—I said, "Have you got a job of carpentering?"—he replied he had not, he had got a board to cut which came to fourpence—we all three went to the public-house together, with the board, I do not exactly know who carried it, and it was then put in a back place somewhere—we had a pot of beer, and I went back to Mr. Arthur's to settle for my week's work—I left them at a shop in North-street, and did not see them again that night—I had suspicions that the board was my uncle's, but did not make any remark about it—I did not know it—there is a mark on it, but I did not see it at the time—I gave a slight information to my uncle's foreman, his brother, George Arthur, on the Saturday evening, but told him to inquire of my uncle whether he had sold it or not—I and he went and looked at it on the Monday, and he claimed it as his brother's.
Cross-exaviined. Q. Were you at work at your uncle's that day? A. Yes—the prisoner did not put the board down in the tap-room, we stood at the bar—he made some remark to his partner that he was going to bring the board up to his house, but instead of that he would leave it there till the Monday morning—I have heard that the prisoner was some time ago about to be promoted to the office of foreman at my uncle's—another uncle of mine filled that place; the uncle that went with me about the board—my uncle's place is full of boards of various sizes—I did not search for Mr. Moth's board; I believe my uncle did—Mr. Moth did not, when he first looked at the board, say it was the board he had given him—he said it was a dirtier board than that—it was getting towards evening when I saw the prisoner carrying the board—I do not know whether it was light; it was about seven o'clock.
CHARLES ARTHUR re-examined. This is my board—I know it by a knot in it, which I noticed because I thought it had no business to be among the first quality—it was a 12-foot board, but a piece has been cut off.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you mention to any one that your brother could identify the board, but you could not? A. No; but as soon as I saw it I identified it.
Jury. We think it was a mistake.
NOT GUILTY .
NEW COURT.—Friday, December 1st, 1848.
PRESENT—Sir PETER LAURIE, Knt., Ald.; MR. RECORDER; Mr. Ald. MOON; Mr. Ald. SALOMONS; Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE; and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Mr. Recorder and the Fifth Jury.
95. JOHN BROWN and JAMES HOARE, stealing 93lbs. weight of lead, value 12s.; the goods of the C ommissioners for Paving, Lighting, and Cleaning the Regent's Park; having been before convicted; to which
BROWN pleaded GUILTY . Aged 20.
HOARE pleaded GUILTY . Aged 21.
Confined One Year .
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Eighteen Months.
97. ANN BERTINI , stealing 1 chair, value 2s. 4d.; the goods of William Brett: also, 2 iron weights, and 5 brass knobs, 2s. 6d.; the goods of William Houlahan; having been before convicted; to which she pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 32.— Confined Three Months.
MR. BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
HESTER PITMAN . I am a widow, and keep a lodging-house, in Finsbury-square. The prisoners came to lodge there in April—Cabral was represented to me as a Baroness; she was married in May—Rosa acted as her servant—each of them had a bed-room—they boarded with me, and used the rooms of the house as well as other boarders—they had access to the dining and. drawing-rooms—Rosa's bed-room was opposite to her mistress's—having missed many articles, I spoke to Sergeant Brannan, and he came to my house on 2nd Nov.—he went up with me to Rosa's bed-room—some towels, and other things, were found there, between the mattress and bed—some of them were sewn up in an old apron belonging to Rosa—some soap and other things were found there, which Brannan took possession of—I speak Spanish, which is understood by both the prisoners—I spoke to Rosa in Spanish, and told her they were my things—she said they were for her use—I said all that she had for her use was the linen on her bed and one chamber-towel—she did not make any other reply—I then went to her mistress's room, being, called by the officer—it was between nine and ten o'clock in the morning—she was up, but her husband was not—we had to wait till he got up—we then got admission, and found her concealing a silver brooch, which had been lost in Aug. last, under her shawl—there were two towels round her waist, under her clothes, and two pieces of soap under her arms, under her dress—the towels were clean—they had not been supplied for her use; I do not know where they were taken from—I had the giving out of her linen myself—she and her husband had each of them twice a week a clean towel—there were other clean towels in the room for their use—there were some men's shirts found—I have missed other property, which I have not yet traced—she did not say anything about whose these things were—the value of what I found in her room, including the brooch, was about 2l.
COURT. Q. Has she ever shown any symptom of insanity? A. No—I have not traced the sale or pawning of any article—the watch and guardchain have not been found—the soap found was two pieces of common mottled soap, and a piece of scented soap.
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. They boarded at your table? A. She never dined at my table, but her husband did—they boarded in my house—they might pay altogether about a guinea a day—the towels were all marked with my name, in the same way as those I was giving out to the lodgers—my daughter gave them things out by my desire, but not more than I ordered—some of the things in Rosa's room were dirty—some of them were wrapped up in a newspaper—she had not as much of this common mottled soap as she liked; when she asked me for a piece she had it—she used to wash some of her mistress's clothes and her own, some were put out—the shirts have been in my possession fifteen years—there is no mark on them, but I know them, having seen them a great many times—neither of the prisoners speak a word of English.
who was with me, to make the servant sensible who I was, and what I came for—I went into her bed-room, and found between the bed and the mattress a newspaper, with two clean towels in it, which Mrs. Pitman claimed—I also found these other articles there, which I threw out on the landing for her inspection—here are stockings, pieces of linen, shirts, and a pair of drawers, they were between the bed and the mattress, and some pieces of soap—part of the things were sewn up in an apron, which I placed on the landing, and Mrs. Pitman claimed them—Rosa endeavoured to snatch the bang from me, which was sewn at both ends—when I was on the landing I saw Cabral in her bed-room—I noticed her put something down her bosom, and two towels and three pieces of soap were found there by Mrs. Pitman—I saw two towels found in the wardrobe in the room occupied by her and her husband—the wardrobe was not locked.
FRANCISCO GAVARETTE . I was residing in Mrs. Pitman's house at the time this affair occurred—I went up when the officer came there—I told Rosa that the officer came to search her—she said she had no objection—I addressed the prisoners in Spanish, which they understand—they answered me in Portuguese—Rosa said some of the things were her's.
Cross-examined. Q. She did not claim the shirts? A. She said one shirt was her brothers and one was her master's, but the master said it was not.
Cross-examined. Q. They had a little while before given you notice of their intention to go away as soon as there was a ship going to Portugal? A. Yes.
COURT. Q. Was she married in May to a Portuguese gentleman? A. Yes—he has never been charged with any of these things—he was in the room—he was very angry with her when the brooch and other things were taken from her—J do not know that they had quarrelled—I had no knowledge that she was lightheaded—before she was married there was a consultation with five physicians to ascertain whether'she was in her senses or not, and they gave thuir sentence that she was in her senses—her future husband called them in—I do not know that it had been reported that she had been out of her mind, and that was the reason these five persons were called in—I have heard her say that she was confined a great many years; not on account of her being out of her mind, I believe she gave herself voluntarily up to go into a convent, she was kept out of her property.
MR. BODKIN here withdrew from the Prosecution.
NOT GUILTY .
MR. BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
HESTER PITMAN . This brooch is mine—I missed it in August last from the mantel-piece in the back parlour—the prisoner went in and out of that room—I made inquiries in the house, and a thorough search was made—it was not found—I spoke to the prisoner—she did not make any answer about it, nor her servant—I told her that the brooch was lost, and Rosa heard me speak of it—search was made immediately—I never heard any tidings of it till the officer came—Cabral had seen it in my child's bosom many times.
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. Whose is it? A. Mine—my child
is under age—she is fifteen—she is no there—I had never worn the brooch—when I saw it last it was in my back parlour, on the chimney-piece—it was a gift to my daughter by her eldest sister—my daughter was intimate with the prisoner—the prisoner had ornaments of her own, she never lent any to my daughter—the prisoner paid me, and after she had been before the Magistrate she came back to my house and lived there, and her husband lives there now.
NOT GUILTY .
NOT GUILTY .
101. SUSANNAH COOK and THOMAS MAIERS were indicted for stealing 23 paintings, value 20l., and 9 painting-frames, 50s.; the property of Richard Gale, the master of Cook; and JOSEPH ROWLAND for feloniously receiving the same: Maiers having been before convicted.
MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.
RICHARD GALE . I live at 47, High Holborn, and am a picture-dealer—it is my dwelling-house—I have a gallery at the back of my shop up one pair of stairs—I keep some of my pictures in that gallery—I have also a small back room up another flight of stairs, in which I keep other pictures—I was not at all aware that I had been robbed of any pictures till the 16th Oct.—I kept pictures in that room and gallery which were not immediately wanted, and I had not been up there for nine or ten weeks before I discovered my loss—Cook had been in my service for about four months, I had a good character with her, and believed her to be honest—I trusted her with the key of a door which led from the shop to that gallery—she had that key before we were up in the morning—on 16th Oct. I missed pictures from the gallery, and the room, and on the 17th Oct., I was in St. Mary-Axe, and saw a picture of a huntsman blowing a trumpet, in Rowland's shop window—I knew it was mine—I went in, made inquiries, and waited till Rowland came in—I said, "I have been robbed to a considerable extent, 50l. or 60l., if you will act straightforward, and provided you tell me the truth, and will give me every facility to find the person you bought them of, and will not let any person know of the robbery, that I may find my property, you shall not be a loser"—I further said, "My motive in making this proposition is, that I may apprehend the thief, and if I discover more of my property elsewhere I may claim it," but he mentioned the robbery directly to other people, he broke the promise directly—he said he had purchased the pictures of a person who gave the name of Falk, who was introduced to him by a Jew that he knew very well, and from whom he had often purchased pictures—I wrote down an address which he gave me—I found two more of my pictures in his window—I then asked permission to look round his shop—I found as many more pictures as made up fifteen or sixteen—these are them (produced)—here is one, which is a cattle picture by Lister—he is a well-known artist, whopaints inferior pictures at moderate prices—I had seen Rowland on the subject of this picture at my place—he offered me a sovereign for it, and said he would give me a sovereign a piece for as many as I had of that artist—that was at my own place five or six months ago—after my conversation with Rowland
I told him I should put it into the hands of the police. and I told him to let the pictures remain where they were till I came back with the officer—I went aways—I left four on five of the pictures in the frames in which they had been taken from my house and where I returned in two hours, or two hours and a haft, with the policeman. I said to Rowland, "Where are the pictures that I saw here this morning, they have been removed out of the shop, the frams are here, but the pictures are gone?—he asked me to repeat the promise I had made in the morning, in presence of the policeman—I did so—he then said, "Now I will produce the pictures"—he went to the hack premises, and produced the fifteen or sixteen pictures that I had seen in the morning—three or four smaller pictures had been taken out of their frames—"The Huntsman" was not—the policeman told him the pictures must be restored to their frames—he did not restore the person of whom he had purchased the pictures—he said of a young man about five feet eight or tune inches high, with a light complexion, and a moustache—he said he had given the name of Falk, that he was related to Mr. Falk of Oxford-street—he was then cautioned to keep the pictures, and I and the officer left—before I left I found about half a dozen more pictures, as many as made up twenty-two—on Monday morning, 23rd Oct. Maiers was taken into custody, and on the same day I gave Cook into custody—on the day after Rowland had been given into custody, I found at his place three other pictures—that would make twenty-five—I found no others that I could swear to—just as I had found the other three pictures, Rowland came home—he had been admitted to bail—he produced the duplicates of nine paintings which had been stolen from me—I saw them at the pawnbroker's, at the police-court, and they are now here—in answer to a question, he said he had no duplicates—he then said, "I recollect I have some"—he produced the duplicates, and said, "I bought them of a man, but I had forgotten the circumstance"—I had told him that Maiers was in custody—the duplicates I found in his possession produced the pictures I had lost—I have lost altogether 110, or 120, worth 120l. or 130l.—they had nearly emptied the room, and the gallery beside.
Croos-rxammetl by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. You have some very good painting? A. I have none very valuable—forty or fifty pictures were found—some of them I had put away—I thought they had been seen too long—tins picture to the man blowing the trumpet is by George Haynes—this cattle Lister's. he paints a are it many of these pictures, but I never saw two alike—he has painted for me for several years—I never knew him to paint two alike—Rowland said he would give me a sovereign for this—I gave two for it—I did not show him any othei—the same artist has done pictures for the Art-Union for twenty or thirty guineas—they are the prizes in the Art-Union—I have known it to be the case, that pictures which I get painted for 25s. go there for 25l.—I should say I have 500 pictures—Rowland has a great many—I should say there were 100 in his shop, and perhaps 150 kept down stairs in a place which had the appearance of a workshop—I do not think I can pick out the nine pictures which I found, after I found the first fifteen or sixteen—some of them were small, and might have escaped his attention—I have seen him at picture sales—he buys a great many—he had not bid for the huntsman—in two or three transactions which I had with him he paid me for What he bought—he brought twenty-two pictures to Bow-street himself—the policeman told him to bring them, and he did—the cattle scene was one.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did you see the clerk take down what Rowland
said? A. Yes—the Magistrate put his name to it—this is it—this other is the statement made by Maiers—(read—"The prisoner Maiers says as follows:—Let the girl be discharged, it was not her; if I am to suffer, let me do it."
Maiers. Q. Did you ever see me at your place? A. Only once—I heard the bell ring as I was coming down stairs in the morning, about a quarter before eight o'clock, and I saw you speak to Cook—I did not see her give you anything—you ire the person who was there.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. What took place? A. The bell rung, and Cook passed me and spoke to him—they were'evidently acquaintances—he then saw me, and he said, "Does Mr. somebody (mentioning some name) live here?"—she said, "No," and shut the door in his face, though they had been conversing as friends just before.
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. Have you a porter? A. An occasional porter—he comes to open the shop about half-past eight o'clock in the morning—that is the usual hour.
COURT.Q. What was to prevent the porter gaining access to this gallery and back-room? A. The person must have gone through the shop and through the door which leads to the passage—the porter always opened the shop at half-past eight—the middle door was always locked at niuht, and Cook had the key in the morning—the porter had no access till she let him in at half-past eight.
Maiers. Q. Did you sell any pictures a short time before we were in custody? A. Yes; not on the Friday before—I sold some frames.
COURT. Q. Did you ever sell any to Maiers? A. No; certainly not.
SAMUEL ROLFE. I am in the employ of Mr. Bunday, a portmanteau-maker, in Holborn. I have seen Maiers at Mr. Gale's shop-door twenty or thirty times—I have seen him speak to Cook before eight o'clock, in the middle of the day and in the evening, when she came out for beer—I have seen him speak to her once or twice a week—one morning, about three weeks before he was taken into custody, I saw him walk up and down close by the door two or three times, and when he got an opportunity he spoke to some one at Mr. Gale's door—it was then about half-past seven or a quarter to eight o'clock—I could not see who it was he was speaking to—I was sideways, and the person was inside the door—after he had spoken to the person, he left the door, with two paintings, one in each hand—that was prior to the shop being opened.
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. What day was this? A. I did not keep it in my head—I have seen him so often—the shop opens generally about half-past eight o'clock—it is never opened before, unless the porter has to go somewhere else—I do not think I have seen it above once or twice in a twelvemonth—it was not eight when I saw Maiers at the door.
Maiers. Q. How did I carry the pictures? A. In your hands, exposed—I did not see you with any other pictures.
JOSEPH GRAY . I live at 46, High Holborn, and am shopman to Mr. Brown, a bookseller. I have repeatedly seen Maiers hanging about Mr. Gale's shop before it was opened—I saw him for about four or five weeks before he was taken—when I have seen him go there, he has had nothing with him—I saw him on two distinct occasions go into Mr. Gale's house when the door was partly open, and come out with a picture in each hand—I met him once in Holborn, he had nothing with him, but there was a lad behind with a picture—I looked into his face, and he looked at me.
lodged at my mother's up to the time of his being taken—he was in the habit of coming home with pictures. between seven and eight o'clock in the morning—he was not lodging at our place when he was taken—he left on a Monday, and on the Thursday before he. had brought pictures home in the morning.
COURT. Q. Did you notice the pictures he brought home? A. Some of them—this is one—this is another, and this is another which he had (looking at those produced).
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. He his had this one a long time? A. Yes; lour or five weeks.
Cioss-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Did you go to sell some? A. Yes—I do not know how manywere-sold, but he told me he was to receive 17l. for them.
FREDERICK FOX . I am shopman to a pawnbroker, of 13, Old-street. I produce ten paintings, five of them were pawned on 2nd Oct, by Maiers, for 25s., four on 9th Oct., for 30s., and one on 12th Oct., for 30s., all by Maiers.
Maiers. I did not pawn this large picture; a man pawned it, and I went into the shop and bought the duplicate of him. Witness. I am sure you are the person who pawned this one—I saw you on every occasion.
WILLIAM SMITH (policeman, E 30). I was taken by Mr. Gale to Rowland's—I have heard Mr. Gale's evidence—it is correct—I took Cook into custody on 23rd Oct., at Mr. Gale's—I found this letter in her box.
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. Was Cook there when you found it? A. Yes—the box was in her bed-room—she pointed it out as hers, and gave me the key to open it.
JAMES JACOBS . I am a translator of languages, and live in Somerset-street. I have known Maiers about four years—I know his writing—I believe this letter to be his writing—I would not swear to it. (This letter being read, addressed Cook as "My dearest and only-beloved Susannah," and alluded to his desire to possess a keepsake in remembrance of her.)
JAMES COLEBY. I am porter to Mr. Gale. I never opened the door to Maiers any morning between seven and eight o'clock—I have seen him a number of times at Mr. Gale's door when I have been going to shut up in an evening—he came for the servant.
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. What time did you open? A. At half-past eight o'clock, never above two or three minutes before—I have been there about eight, and was let in b) Cook—I then left, and went away, and trie door was shut after me.
COURT. Q. What was the earliest time you have been employed to remove goods? A. Never before eight o'clock.
ABRAHAM MYERS . I have known Rowland about twelve years. I have a picture by Sherlock, which I bought of Rowland for a sovereign, six or seven weeks ago—this is it—it is a picture I could buy at James's for about 25s.—Sherlock paints them for about 15s.—I have bought them for the value of the canvass.
Cross-examined by MR BALLANTINE. Q. You buy them to sell? A. Yes;
I stood at Garraway's coffee-house for thirty years—I am not a dealer in great pictures; I buy them to get a living—I get 4s. or 5s. by a picture—I know Maiers; I bought three pictures of him—pictures of this sort are awked a bout—I would sell tlm one for 25s.
RICHARD GALE re-examined. These pictures were taken from my gallery, and wwre afterwards brought to the police-court by Rowland—this picture of "The Irishman" was not brought at all; I found it on the top of a cupboard in Rowland's house—it is a picture by Flint, and is not so valuable to me as to some others—it had the name on the back, but it has been rubbed off.
COURT. Q. Has it occurred to you to be possible that under the pretence of courting Cook, Maiers has been shown the gallery, and that he had taken an opportunity of taking the pictures unknown to her? A. I conceive it impossible, as he must have passed through a room where she was employed, and up two flights of stairs, to get to the gallery—it might have been done with one picture, but not with all.
(Cook received a good character.)
COOK— GUILTY . Aged 19.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor and Jury.— Confined One Year . MAIERS— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Fourteen Years. ROWLAND— NOT GUILTY .
NOT GUILTY .
MR. RYLAND conducted the Prosecution.
GEORGE SOWRAY . I am a clerk in the Registrar-general's Office. I produce the book of licenses for marriages—here is a license for Princes-street Chapel, Devonport, in the district of Stoke Damarel, in the county of Devonshire—it is an Independent Chapel—it is dated 18th Aug., 1837—there is nothing to alter the registration of that place.
JOSEPH ELMS . I am superintendent-registrar of marriages at Stoke Damarel, Devonshire. I produce a book from the registry, which contains the register of Princes-street Chapel, in East Stoke Damarel district, on the 18th Aug., 1837—I also produce the register of marriage there—on the 28th Aug., 1839, Henry Edward Bramall and Rebecca Coath, of full age, bachelor and spinster, were married according to the rites of the Scotch Church, by Alexander Fletcher, minister pro tern.
REV. ALEXANDER FLETCHER . In Aug., 1839, I was officiating as minister in Princes-street Chapel, Devonport—on the 18th Aug. the prisoner was married by me to Rebecca Coath—I performed the ceremony—this is my signature to the register—they applied to me through Mr. Diamond, an acquaintance of his, and maintaining a respectable character.
a copy of an entry from the register of marriages in the parish Church of Barnstaple—I examined it word by word at the parish Church—it is a true copy—(read—"March 25, 1843, Henry Beaumont, surgeon, residing at Barnstaple, was mirried to Elizabeth Tinley, by me,—HENRY LUXMORE, Vicar."
JAMES COPELAND . I am a draper, and live at Barnstaple—I was living there in March 1843—I was present on the 25th March 1843, when the prisoner was married in the name of Henry Beaumont, to Elizabeth Tinley—I signed the book.
ELIZABETH TINLEY I was married to the prisoner in March 1843, in the name of Beaumont—he lived with me about three months before he went to sea—he has been to sea and back ever since I knew him—he finally left me twelve months last May—I was then living in Charles-place, Hoxton—when I married him I had so much a year to keep me, and furniture, and plate, and clothes.—he told me he was going to America—he engaged a ship tor, himself and me—my clothes were sent on board—he went and took them ana left me, taking all my money and clothes.
GUILTY . Aged 29.— Transported for Seven Years.
GUILTY — Transported for Seven Years more .
CHRISTIAN RANDALL . I left some work I was engaged in at No. 52, Noel street, Islington, on 14th Nov., between four and five o'clock in the evening—there was a copper in the brick-work in the back kitchen—in the morning it was gone.
THOMAS PARKIN CUFF (policeman, N. 230.) I heard a noise in the empty house, No. 52, Noel-street, on the night of the 14th Nov. about eight o'clock—I saw the front door of the house was open—I ran to it and saw the figure of a man go towards, the stairs—I heard some one in the back kitchen at the rear of the house—I went down stairs, took a match out of my pocket, got a light, and saw the prisoner get out of the window to the yard—I went out at the front door—I sent to the station for a bull's-eye—I at last took the prisoner out of a water-closet at No. 11, Montague-place—I had had such an observation of his person as to say he is the same man I saw in the kitchen—this copper was behind the front door of the house, I had heard a noise in the house.
Cross-pxammed by MR. PAYNE. Q. Were you not outside the house? A. Yes; I went to the door—if I had waited I do not know whether they would have brought the copper out—I drove them back to the back-premises—it was a small lucifer match that I lighted—I could see the prisoner by that—he got through the window—I cannot say whether he turned and looked at me—I should say it might be a dozen yards from the house in Noel-street when I found the prisoner—I found his hat in the garden adjoining the garden of the house where the copper was—I ound the prisoner in five or ten minutes—he stid, "Don't illuse me."
JURY. Q. Was the hat one that would fit the prisoner? A. Yes; he denied it being his that night, but in the morning he said, "I mar as well own it," and he took and kept it.
prisoner's former conviction—(read—Convicted June 1848, and confined three months—the prisoner is the person.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined One Year .
THIRD COURT.—Friday, Dec. 1st, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. MOON; Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE; and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq., and the Third Jury.
FRANCES LEE . I am single, and live at St. Bartholomew's-terrace, Bethnal-green. The prisoner used to come to see me—on 30th Oct. I sent my sister, Mary Ann Lee, to pawn a gown—she brought the ticket, and I put it in a tea-caddy—the prisoner remained there from four till eight o'clock—on the next Saturday I missed the ticket, and have not seen it since.
Cross-examined by MR. HUDDLESTON. Q. Is your sister much like you? A. No; my hair is light and hers dark—the prisoner lives at Wapping; the pawnbroker's is in the Mile-end-road, about half a mile from there—her sister-in-law does not live a quarter of a mile from the pawnbroker's—I was there on Thursday, between three and four in the afternoon—the prisoner was there washing—I went with the prisoner to the pawnbroker's on Friday the 10th—I did not ask the pawnbroker's young man whether she was the person—I did not speak to him.
MARY ANN LEE . I am sister of the last witness, and live with my father and mother. On 13th Oct. I pawned a gown for my sister at Mr. Ashbridge's, in the Mile-end-road, and took her the money and ticket—I put the ticket in the tea-caddy—the prisoner was there.
Cross-examined. Q. Were you before the Magistrate when the pawnbroker was examined? A. Yes; I heard him say that my sister pawned it—he afterwards said he had made a mistake.
HENRY LEE . I am an iron plate-worker—the last witnesses are my daughters—on 2nd Nov., about twenty minutes to seven o'clock, I met the prisoner in the Cambridge-road with something under her arm, going in a direction from Ashbridge's, the pawnbroker's, to her own home.
JOHN WILLIAM PETO . I am assistant to Mr. Ashbridge, pawnbroker, of the Mile-end-road. On 30th Oct. Mary Ann Lee pawned a gown with me—I gave her a ticket—the duplicate is here—on 2nd Nov. the prisoner brought the duplicate and redeemed it—I did not know her before—I am sure of her.
Cross-examined. Q. Has Mr. Ashbridge a very large business? A. Not very; he has three assistants—I advanced the money—I swore before the Magistrate that Frances Lee pawned the gown—the Magistrate called my attention to it, and I corrected myself and said I had made a mistake in consequence of the likeness between the two sisters—I was not positive which sister pawned it—I did not give the gown to the person who brought the ticket, but I stood by—the young man who gave it was before the Magistrate, but he did not recollect the circumstance, and I was brought—Frances Lee iskuii me if the prisoner was the person who brought the ticket, and I said it "as—I do not recollect the time it Mas brought—I cannot say whether it was
daylight—it was between twelve and seven o'clock—I understand the prisoner has witnesses to account for where she was all day,
NOT GUILTY .
NOT GUILTY .
ANN CASE . On 2nd Nov., between twelve and one at noon, I was at my bed-room window, which looks into Mr. Foster's garden, and saw Hutchinson get over the wall, walk half-way down the garden, take a handkerchief which was hanging up to dry, and give it to Field, who was stooping down at the wall—they both ran across a field—I went down and got close behind them, and heard Hutchinson say, "I wonder what the lady would give us if we told her who stole the handkerchief"—Field put it into his breast-pocket—I followed them into the Ball's-pond-road—they turned up a court and ran—I called, "Stop thief!"—they were stopped and taken to the station—I have not seen the handkerchief since.
Field's Defence. I saw two boys take it and give it to another boy.
HUTCHINSON— GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Six Months.
FIELD— GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Twelve Months.
WILLIAM HENRY WHITE . I live with my father, William East White, a draper, in the Kingsland-road. On 16th Nov., about half-past two, I received information, ran into the road, and saw the prisoners running away together—Slate and Sutmire had two pieces of cloth each—I pursued them into Albion-square, and lost sight of them just as they turned the corner—I turned and saw them again, caught them, and gave them all in custody—there were four at first.
charge—Sutmire was brought to the station in five or ten minutes with these pieces of cloth.
SLATE— GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Six Months.
TAYLOR— GUILTY . Aged 16.— Transported for Ten Years.
SUTMIRE— GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Six Months.
MARY WATKIVS . I am in the service of Mrs. Clarke. On 21st Nov., at half-past ten in the day, I was in a lane at Kensington with a parcel containing a visite trimmed with fur, and some fringe by the side of it—I met the prisoners in the lane—Williams asked me if I would have my fortune told—I made no reply, but was going on, when Lee snatched at my parcel—the paper gave way, and she took the fringe—two young men at the top of the lane turned and looked—she threw it down and ran off—the constable ran after them.
Lee. I picked it up, said, "Here is your fringe," shook the dirt off it, and gave it you, and you said, "Thank you?" Witness. It is not true.
WILLIAMS— GUILTY . Aged 15.
LEE— GUILTY . Aged 15.
Confined Six Months.
ROBERT CLARKE . I am a licensed-victualler, of Pimlico. The prisoner was my potman six or seven weeks—he absconded on the 28th—four shillings were due to him—it was his duty to receive money and settle for it on Saturday evenings—he did not settle before he left for any money for that week—he paid me no money received from Mr. Jones.
Prisoner. Q. Did I give you any bill? A. No; I dealt with Mr. Clarke, not with you.
Prisoner's Defence. I sold the beer on commission; I was not able to make up what I had received; I intended to pay Mr. Clarke as soon as I could.
GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined Four Months.
JOHN WILLIAMS (Thames-policeman, 4). On 10th Nov., between six and seven in the evening, I stopped the prisoner on Tower-hill with this bag on his shoulder—I asked what he had in it—he said, "That is my business"—I found it contained some hides—I asked where he was going with them—he said, "Home"—I said, "Where do you live?"—he said, "That is my business"—I took him in charge—he threw me on my back and made his escape—the scavenger stopped him, and I got him again—he said, "You could not
blame me for getting away"—I took him to the station, and found six calves hides and a tally in the bundle.
JOHN CHADBURN . I am foreman at I Brewer's-quay. I missed six bundles of calf-skins from a gateway there—I had landed them on 28th Oct.—there was this tally with them; I swear to it—the prisoner had been employed on the quay, but not lately—I had seen him there several days, and ordered him away—I believe this to be one of the bundles of skins—they were in the care of Joseph Barber.
Prisoner. Q. What did you order me to leave the quay for? A. Because I suspected you of stealing cheese.
GUILTY . Aged 40.— Confined Six Months.
MR. BRIARLY conducted the Prosecution.
PATRICK SULLIVAN . I am a labourer, of 1, Rosemary-lane. On Saturday night, 3rd Nov., I was with Birch in the Prince Albert public-house, Tower-hill—as I went home, within twenty-five yards of my house, the prisoner, who is my daughter, came to me—she is about thirty-eight years old—her husband is a cab man—she got into the house with me in spite of me, as I was taking the key out of the door—I could not get her out—I was ill, and threw off my coat and waistcoat to go to bed—I had eleven sovereigns and two half-sovereigns in my waistcoat—I counted it then, folded the waistcoat up carefully, put it down, turned round, and saw her with it under her arm—she threw it down—I went to it, and found nothing in the pocket—I called to my son, and sent him after her—she left her pattens and umbrella behind—she had followed me out of the public-house—I had given her and others some drink, and then walked out at one door, and she at the other.
Prisoner. Q. Did not I ask you to lend me a trifle? A. I gave you 2s. a few days before, and that was the third time in a fortnight—I was sober.
JOHN SULLIVAN . My father told me something—I went after the prisoner next morning, and found her sitting on the bed in Portpool-lane, where she lives—I asked her where the money was which she had taken from her father—she said she wished she had more—I asked her to send part back—she said she took none—I gave her in charge.
Prisoner. Q. How long were you in the house before you fetched the policeman? A. Half an hour or three quarters—you sent me three times for gin—you gave me a shilling the first time, and two fourpenny-pieces afterwards
ARCHIBALD JEFFERY (policeman G, 88). I was called to the prisoner's house, and found her drunk—I told her the charge—she said she had received 2s. from her father, as he supposed, but one was a sovereign, and she did not tell him his mistake, because she was deserving of it—I took her in charge.
GUILTY . Aged 38.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Eight Months.
JAMES FINCH . I am errand-boy to Alfred Shepherd and others, of Crane-court, fleet-street. About six weeks ago the prisoner came to the shop, and said he came for the scales for Mr. Caudle, our scale-maker; that they were to be cleaned, and we should have them presently—I saw them given to him
—he took them away—I went to a public-house with the policeman, and found the prisoner.
WILLIAM TAVERNER . I am warehouseman to Messrs. Shepherd. Finch called me—the prisoner was there—he said he came for the scales from Mr. Caudle, to adjust and clean—he took them away, and never returned.
GEORGE CAUDLK . I am a scale-maker, and contract with Messrs. Shepherd to keep the scales in order—if anything wants repairing they are brought home—I never sent the prisoner for them—I do not know him.
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years.
HENRY WILLIAMS . I am a sergeant of the 25th Foot, quartered at Chatham. I have known the prisoner upwards of nine years, and was present at his marriage, in the beginning of Aug., 1839, to my niece, Emma Phillips—she is alive, and is here—I do not know how long they lived together; I went to India.
ELIZABETH MARY BONNETT . I live in Greek-street, Soho. I became acquainted with the prisoner; and on 13th Nov. last married him, at St. George's, Bloomsbury—he said he was single—I went away with him to a public-house, and afterwards went to my aunt's—I heard something, went hack to the public-house, and gave him into custody.
Prisoner. Q. How is it that you gave me your wrong name? A. I gave "Phillips" first—you had known me by that name three or four months—I have known you altogether since the beginning of last Aug.—I told you when you intended to publish the banns that my name was Bonnett—I told you of my uncle's improper conduct towards me, that was not why I claimed your protection—you told me your wife had committed adultery, and attempted suicide by throwing herself off Westminster-bridge—I went to the station, and saw her, and you told me it was a woman in keeping.
Prisoner's Defence. My first wife committed adultery, and we parted by mutual consent; I thought I was free; there must have been some plot in it, as I was taken before the marriage was consummated.
GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined Eight Months.
THOMAS DAVIS . I am a gardener, of Princes-street, Portman-square. On 8th Nov. I laid my scarf on the counter, and went into the parlour, at the back of the shop—in about an hour and a half I heard a cry, went into the shop, and missed it—I have not seen it since.
SARAH PIPER . I am a servant. I saw Mr. Davis's scarf on the counter, about seven o'clock in the evening—I was in the parlour, and saw the prisoner come into the shop—I did not know him before—he went on his hands and knees, took the scarf, and ran away—I went out, but did not see him—I described him to the police, and picked him out of seven or eight others on the Friday afterwards.
her to look at a lot of eight or ten, and see if she could see the man who stole the scart—she picked out the prisoner—I took him—he said he knew nothing about. it; that I made the girl swear false.
GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Twelve Months.
JAMES BRANNAN (policeman, N 9). On 31st Oct., about eight o'clock at night, I saw the prisoner and another person in White Lion-street, Pentonville, at the door of a marine-store shop—he was speaking to the other person, who went away, and the prisoner went into the shop—I went away, came back in about two minutes, and met him coming out of the shop with these two pickaxes, without handles, under his arm—he said he had been working at a sewer, at Holloway, and gave a false name and address.
WILLIAM ROWBOTTOM . I am in the employ of Jonas and George Gregson, contractors for the Birmingham Junction Railway—the prisoner was in their employ, as a labourer, at a shed at Ball's-pond—he had to stop after the other men were gone, to trim lamps—he had nothing to do with the pickaxes—these pickaxes produced belong to Messrs. Gregson—there is "O" on them in white paint, which has been tried to be rubbed out—they have a peculiar eye—we had seventy-two, and missed three—they were ordered specially; I never saw such anywhere else.
Prisoner. You said, before the Magistrate, you had sold half a dozen. Witness. Yes; but they remained at our place.
JOHN INGHAM . I am watchman to Messrs. Gregson. On 31st Oct. I went on duty at six o'clock, and saw the prisoner and another trimming the lamps at the shed—the pickaxes were kept there—they left at half-past six, and did not come back.
WILLIAM GREGSON . I am the time-keeper. On Tuesday evening, a little past five o'clock, I went to the prisoner in the yard, and found him trimming the lamps—it is my duty to look after the servants—I went a little way with him, and parted with him about half-past six—I saw nothing bulky about him.
Prisoner's Defence. The sub-contractor told me I might have a couple of picks if I liked, as he owed me for three days' work.
GUILTY .— Confined Three Months.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq. and the First Jury.
ERRINGTON ROBSON . I am a mason, at Limehouse. On 4th November, about four o'clock in the afternoon, I was going along Shadwell—the three prisoners came up to me, one shoved her hand into me breeches pocket—Igot hold of it—the other two rushed on me, and pushed me down backwards—they ran off, taking 15s. out of my pocket—I gave information—I was not sober, but knew what was going on.
the prisoners and another—I knew them by sight—I followed them into Palmer-street—they went up to Robson—Lynch put her hand into his pocket and took out some money—the other two knocked him down—I saw them passing something to one another, which looked like money—Lynch said, "Let go my hand; I have not got it all"—I followed them, and pointed them out to the constable.
JAMES CLARKE . I live with my father, in Palmer-street. I was playing in the street, and saw the prisoners and another—I knew Lynch well by sight—she put her hand into Robson's pocket, and took out some money—the other two rushed on him, and pushed him down—one of them laid hold of Lynch's hand, and she cried out, "Leave go my hand; I have not got it all"—I saw something pass between them.
LYNCH— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Twelve Months. BRIANT— GUILTY . * Aged 24.— Transported for Seven Years. ARCHER— GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Twelve Months.
ANN MADDON . I am in Mr. Jacobs' service; he gave me the boots to clean—I put them on a step, turned round, and missed them—I saw the prisoner and another iooking in ac the window—I called "Stop thief!" and they ran.
JOSEPH MADDON . I am no relation of the last witness—I was on Saffron-hill, heard a cry of, "Stop thief!" and saw the prisoner running, and he dropped something—I picked up this boot—I am sure he dropped it.
ALEXANDER TURNER (policeman, G 56). I saw the prisoner running in Saffron-hill, with a pair of boots in his hand—I followed him—he was stopped—I asked him where the boots were—he said he did not know anything about them; it was not him that took them.
GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Twelve Months.
ELIZA CARTER . I am single. On 16th June I went in an omnibus to King's-cross. I left four boxes at the toll-house there—I employed the prisoner as a porter—he took two with me to my lodgings—I sent him back. for the other two, and never saw him again or the boxes.
JEREMIAH LOCKABY (policeman, S 180). I went in search of the prisoner, and found him on 10th Nov.—I asked him about the boxes—he said he knew nothing about them—I asked if he lived near King's-cross—he said he had
not been there for several years—in goin along he said, "I will tell you all about it: I did carry the boxes. I took them to the house, the lady gave me 1s., and I went to act change"—I used to see him before 16th June, but he absconded after that.
Prisoner's Defence. I took the boxes, and believe I left them at the same house as I left the first at.
GUILTY . Aged. 25.— Confined Six Months.
OLD COURT.—Saturday, December 2nd, 1848.
PRESENT—The Right Hon. the LORD MAYOR; MR. JISTICE COLTMAN; Mr. Ald. THOMPSON; Sir PETER LAURIE, Knt., Ald.; Sir CHAPMAN MARSHALL, Knt., Ald.; Mr. Ald. MOON; Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE; and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Eduard Bullock, Esq., and the Second Jury.
120. WILLIAM BARRYMORE, stealing 1 coat, 1 waistcoat, 1 pair of trowsers, and 1 pair of boots, value 4l. 10s.; the goods of Robert William Elliott: also 1 coat and other articles, 4l. 10s.; the goods of John Wilkinson: also 1 coat and other articles, 9l. 10s.; the goods of John Newby Howe, in his dwelling-house: to all which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 45.— Transported for Seven Years.
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Twelve Months.
GUILTY .— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY .— Confined Four Months.
Before Mr. Justice Coltman.
MESSRS. CLARKSON and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
SIR JOHN HARE , Knt. I reside in the Royal Crescent, Bath. I was formerly a merchant at Bristol—I know the prisoner—I first became acquainted with her in the early part of 1846—she was then Miss Todhunter—she resided with her mother, who is married to Count Gabrouski, a Pole—I saw them at the house of mutual friends once or twice—I was in Paris in Jan., 1847, saw them there, and renewed my acquaintance with them—I left Paris on 6th Jan (reffering to his diary)—the prisoner and her mother came to the same hotel I was staying at—I gave my rooms up to them, and they staid there a short time—I went back to Paris on 30th March—I found them packing up, just on the point of leaving—the) left the day afterwards
—I left Paris soon after—I merely went to Paris to pay my accounts—I made a stay of some days at Boulogne, and then came to London—I received a note from them in London, requesting me to call on them; and I did so, at their lodgings in St. John's Wood—I found them there, and the prisoner's present husband, the Baron St. Mart, also—I learnt from them that she was about to be married to him—they stated that they were to be married in two or three days, and they invited me to dine with them; which I did—they stated that they expected papers from France, and the marriage was to be deferred till they arrived, which would be in about ten days—they invited me to dine with them three or four times, and to go to a party with them, and as they said they had nothing to do—I invited them in return to spend a few days with me at my house at Bath—they accepted the invitation, and arrived there on Saturday, 24th April, the Countess Gabrouski, Miss Todhunter, and the Baron St. Mart—they remained till the following Thursday, 30th April—on Monday, 26th, I dined at home with these three persons—there was no one else there that day—after dinner I had occasion to write one or two short letters, which I did at my portable desk, with the intention of posting them on the way to an evening party to which we were invited—they were all sitting close to me in the dining-room—I took this casket, containing a diamond ring, out of the desk—it was one of these two caskets (producing two)—they were both lying on the top of the desk, in the open part—I opened the one containing the diamond ring, and placed it on my finger—is was a large diamond, with small diamonds round it, what is called a cluster-ring, I wore it when I went to any respectable party—Miss Todhunter (that was the young lady's name at the time) requested me to let her look at it, and I took it off, handed it to her, and she placed it on her finger—she then said, "What have you in the other casket?"—I took it up—it contained an emerald ring—it was an emerald in the centre, surrounded by small diamonds—it was so remarkably small, that I could not get it over the small joint of my little finger—I handed it to her—she held it in her hand, and remarked what a very small finger Lady Hare must have had—I had mentioned that these were my wife's rings—I am a widower—one ring was on her finger, and one in her hand, and she said, "I will keep these things"—I then requested her to return them, saying that I set a very high value on them—she said, "No, I will keep them"—I said, "You must not keep them, for they were my wife's rings, and you must give them up," and I used every effort I possibly could to obtain them from her—I requested her to give them to me repeatedly, and she repeatedly refused, and said she would keep them—she did not assign any reason whatever—I was anxious to save the post, and took the letters to the Post-office, and after that went to the party—the Baron went with me—I returned from the party between eleven and twelve, I should think—I do not think I saw the prisoner that night—I think they were gone to bed; I am not certain about that—I did not during their stay, till the Thursday, renew my application about the rings: it never occurred to me—I was exceedingly busy on the Tuesday in going to market, and providing things that were required—I had a large dinner-party that day—on the Wednesday Mr. and Mrs. Pennington came down, and of course I did all I could to make them welcome, and got another dinner for them, and we went to the assembly in the evening—on the Thursday the whole party left—I was too much engaged from the Monday to the Thursday to speak about the rings—I was going to market, and providing different things to make them comfortable, and never thought of the rings till they had left the house—I was invited to the wedding, which was to take place on the Saturday—I
left Bath on the Friday (30th April) for that purpose—I called on them at their house, in Thayer-street, on my arrival in London, about four—they were at dnner—I was invited to partake of it, and sat down—during the dinner some one came in, and the prisoner was called away to go up stairs, and as she was going from the room, I got up from the table and said, "Bring me down my rings"—I said that in a low tone of voice—she made no answer, but went up stairs, for about five minutes—when she came down, she came up to me and said, "What did you say when I left the room?"—I said, "Bring down my rings," repeating the same words,—she then said, "I have not got your ring's"—I then appealed to the Countess, and I said her daughter had my rings, and I had requested her to bring them down—a scuffle, at least high words, ensued, and I left the house—I went next morning to a relation of mine, Mr. Charles Fleay. and he accompanied me back to the house—J went in with him, introduced him, and then I went outside—I went to him the same night, but did not see him—I am not certain whether I went back to the house that night—he accompanied me on the Saturday morning—that was the morning of the prisoner's marriage—I remained in the street after introducing him—he came out and joined me after some time, and made a communication to me—I called at the house myself, between eight and nine in the evening, accompanied by Sir Alexander Downey and Mr. Mackinnon, of the Lie of Skye—I think I saw the Countess, the Baroness, and the Baron—I demanded the rings again, and said I had brought friends with me to demand them—they said they had not got my rings—I believe the Countess spoke, but I am not certain—they all denied having them, in fact—I saw the prisoner while I was there, but whether she was in the room when I first went in, I am not quite certain—the Baron came towards me to force me out of the room, when my friends interfered—I did not get the rings—I then went to the police-office, in Marylebone-lane, but there was no Magistrate there—I called at the house on the Monday, and learnt that they had left England on the Sunday—they were partially married on the Saturday, and the marriage was completed in the Catholic Chapel on the Sunday—I am not quite certain how long I remained in England, but I was in Boulogne on 26th July following, and saw the prisoner there with her husband—whilst there a communication was made to me by the Prefect of the Department on this subject—I had frequently before that been speaking of the loss of my rings—I remained some time at Boulogne, going backwards and forwards to Paris occasionally—I did not hear a word of my rings till I received this letter from Police-Sergeant Hockaday, on 6th Nov. in the present year—I was then in Bath—I had never heard of such a person as Hockaday before I received the letter—I sent a description in answer to that communication, and followed it up by immediately coming to London—I arrived there the same day I received the letter, the 6th—I went to the station-houe, from where the letter was directed, saw Hockaday, and put into his hands a description of the rings—in consequence of what Hockaday told me, I took steps to have the prisoner taken into custody—I was with the officer when she was arrested—on being told what she wns taken for, the Countess (her mother) said, "That man (meaning me) is mad, and that is his keeper"—the officer was in plain clothes—the prisoner implored me very much to let her go—she entreated, and said, "Oh, Sir John, pray let me off! pray let me off! pray forgive rre '" and supplications—a gentleman came up and was interfering, when I said, "If you interfere with justice, I shall give you in charge"—the prisoner was Ukjn to the station, and alter three examinations was commited for trial—I should say—40/. is the very smallest value of the rings—I
had never had any conversation with the prisoner about those rings, or any others, till the afternoon when I produced them from the casket.
Cross-examined by MR. COCKBURN. Q. When did you retire from business? A. About eight or ten years ago—I became acquainted with the Countess and her daughter in 1846—it may have-been in 1845—I believe it was—the Countess was then living at her house, 11, Bentinck-terrace—I once went to a pic nic with her—I do not think I visited her on any other occasion—I believe I dined there once—I am not quite sure—this is a diary of 1847 (handing it to Mr. Cockburn)—I think it was Mrs. Col. Fitch that introduced me to the Countess—I do not think that I saw them again after the pic nic until I met them abroad—most likely I called on her after I was introduced—I do not recollect that I did, but I should as a matter of course—in 1846, I met them in Bolongue, where I was staying at the time—I went there in Dec., 1845—there were a good many other persons there at the time—I was there for the same reason as many others: little railway mishaps—I was there, and at Paris for nearly two years, frequently coming to England, I came openly—I never had the least hesitation in coming to England—I saw the Countess and her daughter at Boulonge, and renewed the intimacy there—I saw very little of them there—I went to Paris, and met them there at the boarding-house—that was in Dec. 1846—they gave me their address; I did not ask for it, they volunteered it, and I called on them next day—I dined at the same boarding-house frequently—five times at least—I think not more—I swear I did not dine there twenty times, or a dozen—I think five or six times was the most—it was a public table, where ladies and gentlemen dined—it was not the boarding-house I was stopping at—I was at the Hotel Maurice—there is a table d'hote there, but it is the fashion in Paris not to dine at your own hotel—gentlemen frequently go about to boarding-houses to dine—when I rode out in my carriage they asked me to allow them to make a call or two, and 1 took them out once or twice while I was at the boarding-house—I lent them my carriage once or twice—I did not imagine that a particular sort of wine would be good for the young lady's complaint—I was recommended to take a particular wine—it was so good that most likely I recommended it to all my friends—I think it is most likely I sent the prisoner some of it—I could not sit at a table, and not ask a lady to take wine—I did not get some wine from my wine-mercbant, and send it to her—she requested to know where I got the wine, and the lady who got it for me procured some for the prisoner likewise, and she paid for it—it did not occur to me that the apartments were too close, and not good for the young lady's health—the Countess said she was almost dead from suffocation—she was sleeping in a back room, and begged I would ask Mr. Saunders whether there was room in the hotel I was stopping at—I applied to Mr. Saunders—he could not accommodate them exactly as they wished, and as my month was up in two or three days, I gave my apartments up to them, and I went and lived in the upper part of the house, not in the attic—it was a very large house—I left Paris on 6th Jan., and returned about two months afterwards—I called on them—they were then packing up to leave, and having a dispute witb the landlord—they were going the next day provided the landlord would allow, them—they did leave the next day—I did not express any regret whatever at their being about to leave Paris so immediately; I swear that—not even as a matter of common-place civility—I do not think I was even so polite as that—I was told at the same time that the lady was going to be married—they left next day for Bolongue I suppose—I saw one of them on
board the ship next day at Bolongue—I am not certain whether I saw both or not—I cannot say: it was a matter of so little importance—they left Paris the day after I arrived—I see by my diary that was 30th March, and they left on the morning of 31st—I left aain the next day, or the same night, I am not quite certain which—it is vury likely I travelled through the night, I cannot recollect, I was so frequently going backwards and forwards between Paris and Bolongue—it was my custom to see every steamer off—it is the fashion at Bolongue—I am in the habit of following the fashion—I went on that occasion, and saw one of the ladies on board—they did not express surprise at seeing me, after leaving me at Paris the night before—they could not—I was on shore, and they on board—I do not know that they said they were surprised, and I said I came to say-good by to them—I know a gentleman named Owen; I do not remember calling on him that morning—I do not recollect that I told him I had just been to see two ladies off by the steamer—Owen never said, "What! is that the young lady you have been so sweet upon?"—he never said anything of the sort; I swear that—I left Bolongue on Saturday, 10th April, for Folkestone—my visit to Paris was very short—I went because my coachman had requested I would come to pay for the keep of the horses—I had sent him money previously, and he made use of it for his own purposes, considering it as wages, and I thought next time I would go to pay my bills myself—there was the coachmaker to pay, and the coachman's lodging, the keep of the horses, and various little things—I think the coachmaker's bill was about 1, 600 francs—I did not think it safe to intrust the payment of that to an agent—when I was at Paris the Countess gave a ball at our house—I sent in part of the refreshments—I asked my friends, and she asked hers—it was on 3rd Jan.—I did not pay half the expenses—I dare say I paid as little as I could: I paid some of it—I sent in a dozen of wine now and then—the very same sort of wine that I was in the habit of drinking, and I sent in a few things from the confectioner's besides; tarts, or something of that sort—I came to London on 10th April—I went to Bath on 13th, and came back to London on 15th to go to Court, to the Drawing-room—I called on the ladies on 18th, at St. John's Wood—they afterwards removed to Thayer-street—I dined with them on 21st, and met Mr. and Mrs. Pennington there, who invited me to their ball on the following day—I went—it is very likely I may have danced a quadrille—I am frequently in the habit of dancing—I am about sixty years of age—it is not sixty-five—I believe between sixty-one and sixty-two—it is not sixty-four—I swear I am not. sixty-four—I will say I am sixty-four for the sake of saying something—the Countess said that Mr. Pennington had business to do at Bath, to sign some. papers which were to be sent off, and I then invited them down to my house—the Countess, her daughter, and the Baron St. Mart came down on Saturday, 24th—I cannot tell what time they arrived—they slept there that night—the next morning the party, most likely, assembled at breakfast—the young lady was generally late—it is always my custom at my house to wait till all the party are assembled—I did not distinguish the place which the young lady was to occupy at the table in any particular mode—I cannot say that I never make a bit of poetry, or sometimes give a young ladyaboquet—I do not recollect placing a copy of verses in the prisoner's plate—I may have placed a boquet there; I do not remember it—I am not particularly in the habit of paying attention to young ladio—I hope to be always civil to all ladies—if a young lady stopped at my house* I may have put vi-rses into her plate two or three times—I do not recollect anything about it—I think it is most likely I put (lowers into her
plate—I have no doubt I did—I did not do so every morning she stayed there—I never recollect placing verses there—it is very likely 1 used to call her "Missey"—I do not recollect that I addressed her as "Missey" in these poetical effusions—I do not recollect anything about the verses—I do sometimes make a few verses, but not particularly addressed to young ladies—on the 26th I dined at home with the Countess, Baroness, and Baron—I suppose we dined about half-past six, that is the usual hour—I was going to a party that evening in Pulteney-street—I proposed to the ladies to go with me, but they declined because they had not evening dresses with them—the Baron went with me—he was with me when I posted the letters—I did not go anywhere else that evening—the room in which this conversation about the rings took place is about fifteen feet by eighteen or twenty—we were all sitting at the same table—my portable desk was on an adjoining table, under the window—I got up from the table to write my letters—the rings were in two separate caskets in my desk—I very seldom wore the diamond ring—I generally wore the emerald ring which I have on now—I only wore the diamond ring on very special occasions—this was a very large party that I was going to, and I should have worn it there—I took it out of the casket for the purpose of putting it on—I did not call the Baroness's attention to it and say, "Look here Missey, here is a very pretty diamond"—she said, "What a beautiful diamond you have on"—it was very large and very brilliant, and of the very finest description, and the diamonds round it were also of the finest description—the diamonds round the emerald ring were also of the finest water—she asked me to let her look at the ring, and I did so—I think it is possible I had worn the ring in her presence before—I had it with me at Paris—I should say I did not wear it at Mr. Pennington's ball—I had it with me in London—I have, no doubt, danced with the prisoner; not many times; not whenever I had the opportunity—I do not know that I ever danced with her more than once or twice—I have been with her on occasions when I could have danced with her more than once or twice—there were balls at the boarding-house at Paris, and I occasionally danced with her there—I have been with her when dancing took place, and have not danced with her—that was at the boarding-house—I was there I suppose two or three times when dancing took place—the Baron St. Mart was present on 26th April when this took place about the rings; I have no doubt he saw them—I do not recollect seeing the prisoner place them in his hand—I do not recollect seeing her show them to her mother—there was a general conversation—I was engaged finishing and sealing my letters, and during that time they may have shown them to each other—I cannot recollect the mother saying, "Yes, they are very pretty"—I was busy with my letters—they were very short letters—I dare say they were of consequence, or I should not have been so anxious to finish them—I do not recollect hearing the mother say, "They are very pretty, take them away," nor her handing them to the Baron—I distinctly recollect the Baron did not give them to me, and they were never given me afterwards—there was a general conversation while I was engaged about my letters, and I had not the least doubt that they all looked at them—I should suppose, after I gave her the rings to look at, I was engaged about my letters about ten minutes or a quarter of an hour, or it might be half an hour—these entries in the diary were made within a few days, within my recollection, not the same day—I generally made them at the end of the week—nothing has been added since—the words "rings stolen" have been written since, merely to refresh my memory—that being the actual time they were stolen it is written in very
large characters: and about four days after you will see, "Opened my portable desk"—I wrote "Rings stolen" at the end of the week, when I opened my portable desk—I opened my desk on Friday, 30th—I made this entry either on the Friday or soon after—it may have been a day or two after—I have stated before that I made up my diary once a week—I did not write the whole u! the cntras under the head of Friday, 30th, at the same time—it is impossible for me to say which of tlie two entries I made first—if you will give me the book I will show you—this was made firit (looking at the diary)—"To London to demand my ring's"—I made the otiiera few thus afterwards, when I found I could not rjctihe rings back—this entry, "Opened my portable desk," was merely to refresh my memory; to recollect that I opened my portable desk and missed my rings—I then immediately came to London and demanded my rings—it was on opening the desk on Friday that I missed them—it was that which led me to come to London—it never occurred to me, from the Monday to the Friday, to make any application for the rings—I was so much engaged on the Tuesday and Wednesday in providing for my friends—I did my maiketing on that occasion myself—I went to the market-place twice that day to get the best that Bath could afford—I went to buy my own fish—I did not order it the night before—it is possible I might have called on my way to the party, and said I should want fish to-morrow—we dined on the Tuesday about half-past six—I was engaged the whole day in marketing, and going down to the Catholic chapel with the Baroness and Countess, to see if they could get married in Eath, as they were very anxious to get married on the following dav, to o off—that took a long time, because we had to go from place to place, we could not get the information—that did not put the loss of the rings into my head—I think Mr. and Mrs. Pennington came about the middle of the day on Wednesday, and they were with me till about the middie of Thursday—I cannot recollect what train they went by—they had lunch with me before theywent—you may call that dinner if you choose—I am not certain whether it was dinner at four or five.
Q. What was there to engross your attention that day, and prevent your asking about the rings? A. I had a great deal to do that day of a private nature, writing letters—that took me a great deal of the day—I used my portable desk, and opened it—I opened it before the Friday—there is no entry of that in my diary—I opened it to write letters every day—I opened it on the Friday to write letters—I had done so on the Thursday also, but it never occurred to me till they left the house that they had stolen the rings—these entries, "Opened my portable desk," and "Rings stolen," were not written on the same day—it is not the same ink—"Rings stolen" is written in darker ink—"Opened my portable desk" is not in the same ink—I have not the least doubt I wrote them both at the same time—I opened the desk every day between Monday and Friday, but it never occurred to me that the rings were gone—I did not sec the caskets, they were under a square cover in the top of the desk, not where I kept my papers.
Q. What led you to go to it on the Friday? A. It occurred to me the moment they had kit the house that I had nit ijot my nriis back—I then recollected the circumstances of the Monday cunmcr. and her savins she would keep the rinys—that lid not come into my head before—she said that openly, in the picsericc of the others, loud enough for me to hear it, and I suppose loud enough for the others to hear it—I have not the least doubt of that—the liaron, I suppose, heard her—the Baron said, before he left, that he had sent her some trinket, I do not know what it was, and begged I would
pay for it if it came after he left—it is very likely that I told the Baron that the jeweller had charged 6. for doing something to his ring, and that I took the 6d. of him—I do not recollect it, but I may have done so—I think it is very likely the servant might have come in and said, "Here is a ring," or "some trinket," and charged 6d., and I might have taken the 6d.—that did not bring my rings to my mind—I came up to their house on the Friday, and got there at their-dinner hour—I sat down at the table—there was something set before me, but I do not think I ate it—I was waiting for an opportunity to speak to the prisoner—some one came in, and she was called to go up stairs—there was not a word said about the rings before that—it is very possible there was a conversation at the dinner-table about the marriage license, I do not recollect it—I do not recollect the Countess saying, "I hope your license is all right with regard to the spelling of the names; there was a mistake of about mine, and we had to wait at the Church while it was sent to Doctors' Commons to be altered"—I do not recollect one syllable about it—I was thinking of my rings at the time, waiting for an opportunity to ask her in the most delicate way for them—I did not follow her out of the room into the passage—I got up from the table, went to the door, and said, "Bring down my rings"—she might have been just in the passage at the time, but the door was open—I swear I did not follow her into the passage, and shut the door behind her—she went up stairs, and when she came down she said, "What did you say to me?"—I said, "Bring down my rings"—she did not ask whether I wanted to see her wedding-ring—after I made this remark, she called to her mother, and told her I was saying something she did not comprehend the meaning of—I appealed to the mother, and, as I said before, there were high words, and I left the room—I do not know that she called to her mother, and said, "Mamma, Sir John Hare is saying something to me about his rings which I do not understand"—the mother did not come out into the passage—we were at the table—I did not say, "You had better not speak so loud, or the Baron will hear"—I did not hear the mother say, "I do not care whether the Baron hears, or all the world; you shall not make such a charge against my daughter"—I believe she said I was mad—at that I left—I think I then called on some friends, to relate it to them—I cannot recollect what friends they were—I was backwards and forwards at the house all the evening—I expected that they were going off, and I took care to watch that they did not go—I was there, backwards and forwards, several times in the evening—I did not keep the house in sight the whole evening—I might have stopped there two or three hours—I went out of the house about five o'clock—it is very likely I staid till seven: I think I did—Mr. Pennington came out to see me—I sent a message, requesting he should come to meet me at my solicitor's—I think I delivered the message myself at the door—I walked about with Mr. Pennington—he accompanied me to look for a friend—I was somewhere about the street, in the neighbourhood, till he came, going frequently to see who went in and came out of the house—I siw the Countess and the Baron come out and go into a cab—I followed the cab a considerable distance, to see where they were going—I saw them go towards the Circus and Oxford-street, and then lost sight of them—they drove faster than I could walk—I had not an opportunity of taking the number of the cab, I was not near enough—I do not recollect that I saw them come back—it is possible I may have gone back again to the house—I was exceedingly anxious—I believe I did go back, I will not swear it—Mr. Pennington came to me about ten the same evening—I did not stop
at the house all the evening—I went to various places—I cannot exactly say where, most likily I went to the Club—to the best of my belief, I went in my Club that evening. after ten o'clock—I am not certain whether I went before—think I saw Mr. Pennington first in the passage, in Thayer-street—I was standing at the door and about there—I am not quite certain whether he came out and found me in the street—he went to a public-house with me—I went out then to see for a friend living close by—he was not at home, and I went back—Mr. Penninfgton was still there, and went to Berkley-street with me, to see for a friend of mine—I stayed with Mr. Pennington perhaps three quarters of an hour—I went back to the house as far as the door, and walked up and down perhaps for half an hour afterwards—I watched till about ten—I had not then he en to the Club—I went to the house next morning, the wedding morning;, with Mr. Fleay—I walked in and said, "That is the Countess"—I just introduced Mr. Fleav—I do not suppose I introduced him with the ceremony of "I beg leave to introduce Mr. Fleay to the Countess Gabrouski," and vice versa—I bolted into the room and said, "That's the Countess," and walked out again—Mr. Fleay afterwards came out to me—he brought out 13s. 8d.—he said she had paid him for some little accounts she had left unpaid at Bath, for when she left Bath she said she had just money enough to pay her expenses to London, and begged I would pay some little amount—I gave the account to Mr. Fleay, and requested him to receive it—she requested me, as she had no money in her pocket, to give the servants 5s., and that was down among other items—I think my servants said they had paid 1s. 6d. for. flies, and that was added to it—it was after breakfast that I went with Mr. Fleay, I suppose eleven or twelve o'clock—it may have been as early as nine,—I went again about eight in the evening, with Mr. Mackinnon and Sir Alexander Downey—I was round in the neighbourhood two or three times in the course of the day—I watched the house: not the whole of the day, nor yet the greater part; I was there once or twice—I stayed perhaps ten minutes or a quarter of an hour; I swear not more than that—I went to watch, I thought they were going oft'—I went again that night, about eight or nine—I called on Sir Alexander Downey and Mr. Mackinnon, who were dining together, and after they had finished their dinner I went—it must have been about nine—I will not swear it was not as late as ten—I should decidedly say it was not as late as half-past ten—I know nothing about Mr. Pennington coming down from his bed-room—I believe the Baroness went up stairs, called Mr. Pennington down, and asked his protection—I do not I know that the Countess had left on the Saturday afternoon—I will not swear that I saw her that night—I know nothing at all about her leaving—I said I saw the party there—I saw the Baroness—I called in so many different times that I really do not recollect whether I saw the Countess or not—I dare say we knocked pretty loudly at the door—I believe I saw the prisoner that evening—I did not call out several times, "You shall not be a Baroness! you shall not be a Baroness!"—I never used such words—the Baron wanted to put me out—alter the Saturday night, I aw no more of them till I saw them at Bolongue in July—I was summoned before the police there, on the complaint of the Baron—I think it is very likely I may have walked up and down their house in Bolongue, as I was told they were at an hotel close by me—I did not make any signs at them, or at other persons: I swear thai—I wanted them to set me—I made no sign—no complaint was made that I had made a sign indicative of breaking open a desk—I made no such sign—they did not complain that I made signs and insulting gestures—whereever
I saw them I generally looked at them and followed them when I met them, just to have a look at them—I had not seen quite enough of the lady—I did not follow them for the purpose of insult—I had a right to look at any one, and especially at the person who had stolen my rings—I did it for the purpose of seeing them—they might have taken it for an insult if they thought proper—I did it for my own gratification—I walked up and down that they might see me, to call to their recollection that they had stolen my rings—I cannot call it an insult to tell a person that they had stolen my property—I next saw them at Ascot races, in June—my carriage stood about four from theirs—I may have seen them once in the Park, nowhere else—I never thought of taking steps to apprehend them till I received the letter from Hockaday—the police-court that I went to on 1st May is in Marylebone-lane—it may be a police-station—I saw a police-sergeant there, and asked if there was any Magistrate there, and he said no Magistrate would be there till Monday morning.
Q. Did not Mr. Pennington press you if you had any charge to make against the Baroness, to prefer it in a formal way? A. Mr. Pennington wanted me to set a value on the rings, and wanted me to compound a felony—he said something to the effect that I had made a scandalous imputation upon the lady, and if she took his advice, she would institute legal proceedings against me, but not in those words—he requested me to put a value on the rings, and then he said, "Well as you have made this accusation, had you not better go to law with them?" or something of that sort—he may have said the very words you put, but I do not recollect exactly—he did say so—he said if I had been robbed, I ought to make a formal charge against them—after having taken Mr. Fleay and other friends, and used everry effort to get back my rings, I went to the police-office—I did not wish to be too much in a hurry in going to the police-office—I wanted to get back my rings by fair means first—I did it in a most gentlemanly way—I think it was a gentlemanly proceeding, after waiting all day, to go at ten at night—I gave them every opportunity of returning the rings—I was so disgusted with Mr. Pennington that I can scarcely tell you what he said—he asked me to compound a felony, and I thought the sooner I was out of his way the better—I took him to my solicitor—I was not going to have anything to do with him without my solicitor—I was exceedingly cautious—I have not furnished Eliza Russell with any money; I swear that—she has not applied to me for a farthing—she did not send her sister to me at the Police-court and say she must have money—I have not promised her any—I swear I have not expended a shilling in any way whatever to any individual, nor promised an)-—no money has been supplied to her, to my knowledge—the letter from Hockaday was the first intimation I had about Eliza Russell—I never saw her before I came up in company with the policeman—I might have seen her at the house—she says she recollects seeing me when I dined there, but I should not recollect a girl coming in to wait—I do not mean to say that she has represented to me that she saw me the day I dined at the Countess's—she says she has seen me at the Countess's, but not on any particular occasion—I did not say this moment that she had seen me the day I dined there—you asked me that question—she says she has seen me at the houses; he did not say when.
Q. Did you not see her when you were there at ten o'clock on the evening of 1st May?. A. I saw two servants there, one that opened the door, and another, but never looked in their faces, or knew who they were—I do not
recollect whether I saw one with a bonnet on, in the act of going out—the servant was not in the room when I spoke about the rings—the discussion did not take place in the passage; it was up stairs in the drawing-room—I suppose the servant showed me up—I went up—I saw the Baron and Baroness there, and the door was open—the Baroness left the room; I do not know what for—when Mr. Pennington came in there was a scuffle—the Baron held up his fist, and threatened to knock me down, for making such a charge against his wife—I claimed my rins again—a great deal of noise took place—one of my friends that I took came from the Isle of Skye, and the other from Frankfort—I did not represent one of them as my lawyer, nor did one of them represent himself as such—I do not know that he did—he might have done so—I did not see the Countess and Baron and Baroness in any public places after their return to England, except Ascot and the Park—when I took her into custody she begged to be let off—she entreated me to let her off—she said that at the police-office—she might have said it when I apprehended her—I believe she did—I believe she asserted strongly and strenuously that she was innocent, at the same time she implored me to let her off—she did not, that I know of, make any observation about not taking her to the police-court—I did not observe that she was in the family-way—she stated to me in the police-office that that was the case, and begged me to let her off—I had not the least idea of it till then—she might have stated then that she was innocent, but not in my hearing—the policeman told me so.
JURY. Q. Did you make any application about these rings to your family, or mention to your family before you left Bath the errand you were coming upon after the rings? A. No, I never mentioned the circumstance, because I was so certain that I had only to come up to London to ask for them, and they would be restored to me—I had not mentioned it to any one—I had no intention of prosecuting when I left Bath; I thought I should get them without—until I was attempted to be turned out of the house by the Baron I did not go to any police-station, or make any complaint about it—I tried all the fair means. I possibly could, by going repeatedly, and taking friends, up to Saturday evening, to endeavour to get my rings.
MR. COCKBURN. Q. When the discussion took place between you and the Countess and the Baroness on the Friday afternoon, did you not say that you were sure the Baroness had not got your rings for any improper purpose? A. No; I did not say anything of the sort.
ELIZA RUSSELL. In Feb. 1846, I heard of a situation through a person named Warren, in consequence of which I called at the house of the Countess Gabrowski, 11, Bentinck-terrace, Regent's-park, and was there engaged as housemaid—I stayed in the service till 30th Nov.—at that time the Countess disposed of her house to a lady and gentleman named Swan, and I continued in the same house in the service of Mr. Swan—while I resided with the Countess I became acquainted with Miss Todhunter—she remained Miss Todhunter till the Countess left that house—I stayed with Mr. Swan six months, and left on 30th Nov., 1847—during the time I was there, Miss Todhunter called once while she was single, with the Baron, to show him the family pictures, and she called again on the Friday before she was married—I saw her—there was another servant in the house at the time named Potts—Miss Todhunter came in a cab on the Friday—she told me she wanted me to go somewhere with her, as she wanted to make some money—I went and asked Mrs. Swan, but she told me she could not let me go—I told Miss Todhunter that, and she
asked me to come to the wedding on the next day—I applied to my mistress for permission, and she said she would spare me, but she must ask Mr. Swan first, and she eventually gave me leave—I did not, during the whole of the Friday, leave the house—I went the next day to Thayer-street, and arrived there about eight o'clock in the morning—I assisted in dressing Miss Todhunter, and getting the breakfast ready—the breakfast did not take place much before one o'clock—after the wedding and breakfast were over, I should think about three, the Countess left the house—the prisoner asked me what time I was expected home—I said I must be home by half-past four—she said that was ratber early, and she could not spare me till after that time, as she wanted me to go somewhere and make her some money—this conversation took place in the back drawing-room in the afternoon, soon after the Countess was gone—between three and five o'clock the prisoner gave me two rings—that was either in the back inner bed-room or in the back drawing-room—they were wrapped up in silver-paper—she told me I was to take them to Mr. Boyce, Lisson-grove-North, and to ask 10l. on them, and I was to have a 5l.-note and five sovereigns, and she gave me money to pay for a cab and for the ticket, as I was not to break into the 10l., and when I came back she said she had written a letter and she wanted to send the 5l.-note abroad—I went in a cab to Boyce's, the pawnbrokers, pledged the rings, and received a 5l.-note and five sovereigns—I went back to the prisoner, gave her the money and the ticket—she tore the ticket up and put the 5l.-note inside the letter, sealed it up, and I took it to the Post-office leading out of Oxford-street—she gave me tenpence to pay the postage of it—I paid a bill that afternoon to a dressmaker in Blenheim-street, I think the first turning out of Bond-street—that was after I had been to the pawnbroker's—I suppose I paid it with that money—she desired me to pay it with the money I had got from the pawnbroker's—I think the bill was 3l. 17s.—I brought back the bill to the prisoner, and it was ten o'clock before I left the house to return to my master's—I recollect before I left two or three gentlemen coming to the house, and I heard a confusion when I was up stairs in the bed-room—the Baroness (the prisoner) came up to me and told me to put on my things and rush home, as it was getting late—I think the gentlemen that had come were in the house at the time—I said to the prisoner, "What a noise there was," and she said, "Oh, it is a little fuss," or something—I left and went home—Mrs. Swan was dissatisfied at my coming so late, and on the Monday alter she gave me warning, and I left at the end of a month—I then went down to my mother, who resided at Ross, in Herefordshire—she was very ill at the time; I remained there till 12th Nov., 1847—I then got a situation in Baker-street, Portman-square, with a Mrs. Potter—Mrs. Swan gave me a character on that occasion—I stayed there seven months and left in June—I went to Bentinck-terrace to see the Baroness, as I heard she was in town—she was only on a visit there—she was living at Bolongue, but came over to spend a few weeks with her mother, who lived in Bentinck-terrace—she had not got a lodging in St. John's-wood then—the Baroness gave me a very nice dress—in consequence of what was said I went again to live with the Countess—the Baroness and her husband were not in England then; they had been gone a day or two—I went on 26th June—in the following Aug. the prisoner came over again to England by herself, and took a lodging in St. John's-wood—she used to visit her mother at Bentinck-terrace—I mostly accompanied her home of an evening—one evening I had been to see my little niece that was coming up by the Great Western Railway, and when I came back the cook said the Baroness had been crying, and when I went up stairs I found she had been crying—
she did not stay long, but I went home with her, ami as we were going along she said, "Mamma has been scolding me about a 10l.-note, Eliza; and thinks I have taken it," and she said, "And for God's sake, Eliza, never say anything about those two rings I gave you"—I had pledged two table-spoons of her mother's, and she said, "Never say a word about those spoons I gave you to pledge"—she said, "For God's sake do not say anything about the rings and spoons"—she gave me the spoons in Oct. 1846, before she was married—I pawned them at Mr. Boyce's—I have left the Countess's service five weeks to-day—I left in consequence of an unpleasant affair that I was accused of, but I was quite innocent—some one got into the house, broke open the Countess's jewel-box, and took away the trinkets—the police were sent for—they examined the premises—I was charged with it, given into custody, and was in custody from the Tuesday till Saturday—I was not given into custody, but I was ordered not to go to the door or to answer anybody—on the Saturday the Countess said she had nothing to allege against me, therefore I was to go, but wished to know where I was going—I gave her my address, and then left—a week afterwards I received my wages from the Countess—the prisoner was then in England—on the Monday and Tuesday after I left, I went to the Baroness, at Bentinck-terrace, and as I was coming from there in Park-road, I met a gentleman named Hardinge, who had been in the habit of visiting the family—that is him (looking at a gentleman in Court)—I had some conversation with him, and in consequence of what passed, I went the same day, Tuesday, to Mr. Boyce's, the pawnbroker's—on the following day I communicated to a policeman what I knew about the pawning of these rings—that was the "Wednesday or Thursday, I will not be positive which—it was in last month—up to the time I had this conversation with Mr. Hardinge, I had no notion whatever that the rings I pawned were Sir John Hare's—one ring was a large diamond set in with smaller ones, and the other an emerald, what I call a green stone, set in with small diamonds.
Cross-examined by MR. COCKBURN. Q. I understand you that you left the Countess in Nov., 1845? A. I did not leave the house; I remained with Mrs. Swan—I ceased to be in the Countess's service—Mr. and Mrs. Swan took the house furnished for twelve months—I then went to my mother's, on account of her health, for no other reason—there was nothing peculiar in the state of my own health at the time—I was not in the family-way—on my oath, I did not, in the month of Dec. in that year, or there-abouts, have a child—I know a person of the name of Snaith, a tailor, at 38, Great North-street, Lisson-grove—his wife was not the nurse who attended me in my confinement—I was with my mother up to the first week in Nov.—I then came to London, and went to Mrs. Den's, 35, North-street—I stayed there till I got the situation—on my oath, I was not confined there—I was not confined at all at or about that time—I have never been brought to bed of a child, not at any time; I swear that—I have not miscarried (the witness here hesitated, and then teas silent)—I went into Mrs. Potter's service on 30th Nov.—I did not say that the father of the child, if it bad been born alive, was a relation of Mrs. Swan's—I did not say Mr. Fowler was the father of it—Mrs. Swan did not know I was in the family-way when I went away, I swear that, nor afterwards—I left Mrs. Swan's in the first week in June, and went straight to Herefordshire—I stayed at Mrs. Potter's till the next June, and then went back to the Countess's—the Baroness called on me on 30th April at Mrs. Swan's—the Baron did not come with her—Mary Potts, the cook, opened the door to her—I saw the Baroness in the cab at the door—Potts was not by; she went to Mrs. Swan, and asked
leave for me to go with the Baroness—I took the answer to the Baroness—I think I have stated before to-day that the Baroness said she wanted me to make a little money for her—I have said so at other times than before the Magistrate—I first stated it to the solicitor a few days ago—that was the first time I; mentioned it—that is since I was before the Magistrate—it was last Tuesday week I was before the Magistrate—I may have been at the Baroness's on the Saturday morning, when Mr. Fleay came, but I do Dot know, I was busy up stairs—they went to Church, came home, and had the wedding breakfast about one o'clock—after that a gentleman named Duplex, a medical gentleman, called—Mr. and Mrs. Pennington were there—Mrs. Pennington was poorly—Mr. Duplex was in the habit of attending the Countess—I do not remember that he wrote a prescription for Mrs. Pennington—I do not remember going to a chemist's to get it made up; I may have done so—the Countess left about three o'clock—Mr. Duplex remained till then—it might have been half-past three—it was not part of the arrangements, to my knowledge, that she was to leave London-bridge by the half-past five train—I mean to say she left as early as three—I believe Mr. Duplex saw her to her carriage, but I do not know whether he had returned or not—Mr. Alfred Todhunter, the Countess's son, was there likewise—he might have gone away with his mother to see her off by the train—I did see her leave, through the drawing-room window, but I did not see who accompanied her—I was not in the passage when she left—it was a few minutes after she left that this took place betweeen me and the Baroness about getting money on the rings—I think it was in the back drawing-room; it was either there or in the back bed-room—I believe it was in the back drawing-room—that room opens with folding-doors into the front; they were open then—I do not know that there was a fire in the front-room—it was very warm that day.—they sat in the front-room—I do not know what time they dined—I swear there was not dinner at half-past five, and I did not assist at it—I had nothing after the wedding breakfast—I swear the breakfast did not take place as early as half-past eleven, for she was not married until before twelve—she was married at Marylebone Church—Mr. and Mrs. Pennington breakfasted with them, and remained there the whole day—they slept in the house that night—they were not in the front drawing-room the whole afternoon—Mrs. Pennington had occasion to go to bed in the afternoon—she may have come down before the Countess left, but she went to bed again; that I swear—she did not come down to take leave of the Countess, and then remain down the whole afternoon—there was no dinner that day that I know of—I did not wait at it—I did not go out and fetch a bottle of wine for the Baron—I ordered some wine in the morning in New Bond-street for the wedding, but none after that—they had tea that evening—I did not wait on them, the servant of the house did—I should not like to be positive whether Mrs. Pennington was at the tea-table—it was immediately after the Countess left that I was sent by the Baroness about these rings—I did not mention to any one that she gave me money to pay for the cab and the ticket till I mentioned it to the policeman—that was on the Wednesday or Thursday after I left the Countess's service—I swear that I told that to the policeman—I have not told it to any one else unless I said it at the police-court.
Q. Did the Baroness tell you in what name you were to pawn these rings? A. Yes, in the name of Mary or Ann Turner, 15, Gloucester-place—I pawned them in that name—the pawnbroker asked me the name in which they were to be pawned, and I told him Mary or Ann Turner, 15, Gloucester-place—I am quite sure of that—I did not pledge those rings the day before,
Friday—I never saw them till I saw them on the Saturday—I saw the rings as I was going along—I received a duplicate from the pawnbroker—there was only one duplicate—both the rings were included in one ticket—I did not notice the duplicate after he gave it to me—I saw it, but did not see what was on it; that I swear—I brought it back, and gave it to the Baroness in her bed-room, or the back drawing-room—I should not like to be positive which; I cannot tell—I may have said before to-day that this conversation took place in the bed-room—I believe the gentlemen were in the house that night when I left—I had a good way to go home—Mrs. Swan discharged me for my not being punctual to time—she had wished me to return at half-past four, and I did not get home till half-past ten—I am sure it was as early as that—I was up stairs in the Baroness's bed-room when the confusion was going on, and the gentlemen were in the house—the Baroness came up, and wished me to put on my things—she said she should like me to come in the morning—I have not said to any one before to-day that the Countess told me it was only a bit of fuss, and to reach home as quick as I could—I believe I mentioned it at Marylebone—I do not recollect mentioning it to any one—Mrs. Swan gave me warning on the Monday—I left at the end of. the month, and went to my mother's—I returned from my mother's in Nov. and went to Mrs. Potter's on 30th Nov.
Q. How were you maintained during the period you were absent from service? A. I had money given to me when I came from home by my father and mother—no one else supplied roe with money, except my sister—I left Mrs. Potter for the purpose of going to the Countess—I gave the warning—I did not mention to any one that the Baroness asked me not to say a word about the rings till I told Sergeant Hockaday—I told him on the Wednesday or Thursday, after I was told they were Sir John Hare's rings—that was after I had been charged with breaking open the jewel-case—the day that; took place the Countess dined at the Baroness's—I was left alone in the house with Mrs. Humphreys, a lady who was on a visit to the Countess—next morning the Countess said she did not see her jewel-case on her drawers as usual—I did not say, "Good God, my Lady, surely it is not lost!"—I went immediately to look for it—Mrs. Humphreys was dressing, and I told her I was looking about for the Countess's jewel-case, which I could not see anywhere—it was found upon the cook's bed, where she used to sleep—she had left on the Monday—the Countess dined out on the Tuesday, and the jewels were missed on the Wednesday.
Q. Did you suggest that it might have been the cook? A. I could not say who it was—I said it was very strange it was gone—I mentioned the cook's name in this way, that she had come the night before after her things and took away a bundle—she came the night before as the jewel-case was missing in the morning—she came the evening the Countess dined at the Baroness's—that may have been on the Tuesday—the bed on which it was found was no one's bed but the cook's—I slept in the room under—they searched my boxes—they did not find a handkerchief of the Countess's in it—she did not charge me with stealing a handkerchief—I do not know that Hockaday said, independent of the jewel-case, that the Countess would be justified in giving me into custody—if he did say so, it was not in my hearing—there were two towels in my box, one marked in my name, and one not marked at all—they were mine, and the Countess said one was hers—I swear she did nut claim a handkerchief—she said there was some paper marked with her initials and coronet—I do not know whether it had a coronet on it—I did not notice it—it was the night I left the house—the Countess sent for
Mr. Miller, to search the premises—there was a pane of glass broken in one of the windows—the police came—one policeman came before Sergeant Hockaday—I forget his name—I do not know that he stated that the house had not been broken from without but from within—they said I must either have done it, or else knew some one that had done it—I never let any man into the house—I did let a person named Graves into the house, quite two years and a half ago, when I was left in the house, when the family went abroad—I showed him over the house; that is all—I never spoke to him since—I mentioned at that time that I had spent the day somewhere with a person named Applegate, at his lodging, at Poplar—he is a single man—it may be two months ago that I spent the day at his lodging—he is no relation of mine—I did not spend the day with him—I did not leave my place till five o'clock, and did not get there till seven—I was not alone with him—I was in company with two more; a young man and a young woman—Applegate saw me home—that was about half-past eleven.
Q. I believe the house was shut up and Applegate hoisted you over the wall, and you had to scramble back again, as you could not get in? A. I did not get back over the wall—I unlocked the door—I decline to answer where I passed that night, I was kept in the house from Tuesday till Saturday—I do not know whether that was by the recommendation of the police—I was not told by any one not to go out till I was told by the Countess on the Saturday evening—I was not ordered either to stay or leave—I was not to go to the door or out of the house, and on Saturday evening I was ordered to leave—during the time I was ordered not to go to the door I saw the Baroness frequently—she was backwards and forwards at her mother's—she did not tell me that I must know something about the robbery, and that if I did not confess it I should be sent to Newgate—they said I must know something about it—the Baroness told me she was sorry, and urged me to tell all I knew of it—she did not tell me that if I did not I should be punished, because I told her I was quite innocent—if Hockaday told the Countess on the day I was discharged that she would be justified in giving me in custody, it was not in my presence—the Countess did not, in my presence, say that she did not wish to do that, but that she should be justified in discharging me—the Baroness was not there when I was discharged, only a servant and the Countess herself—the Baroness was there in the course of the day—when I was discharged I went to Miss Warren's, in Marshall-street—I did not stay the night there—I went to a friend's house at Maida-hill, the father and mother of Eliza, who used to live with me in Baker-street—I stayed there till 1 got the situation I am now in, with a lady in Devonshire-street, Portland-place—I called at Mrs. Hedges', in North-street, for some linen she had of mine—I do not know Selina Laws—I went to Ellen's, the laundress—I do not know her other name—that was a few days after I was discharged from the Countess's service—I believe I had then seen Mr. Hardinge—I saw him a few days after I left the Countess—I did not tell Mrs. Hedges that I should get 40l. from Sir John Hare if I could convict the Baroness—I never mentioned Sir John Hare's name—I did not tell her I had got a claw on the Baroness, and that if I got her transported Sir John would give me 40l., or that I should get 40l.—I mentioned nothing to Mrs. Hedges excepting about my leaving the service as I did—she said she thought I had been very illused—I did not say I had been very iilused—I mentioned the way I left the house, and that the Countess would not pay me my wages—Sir John Hare did not get me the situation I am now in—I never saw a penny of his money—I did not send to him for any—I swear I did not send my sister to him for money
the last time I was at the police court—I never sent any one to him fcrr money—I first communicated with Serjeant Ilockaday about this business on the Wednesday or Thursday—I went in search of him to the station in Salisbury-street—I had seen Mr. Hardinge when I lived in the Countess's service in 1846—I first went into the Countess's service in Feb. 1846", and remained there till she went away in Nov.—in the course of that time I saw Mr. Hardinge several times—he was visiting there with his wife—I believe I accosted him when I met him on the Tuesday—I first told Hockaday that it was in consequence of seeing Mr. Ilnrdinge that I was induced to make this statement—I did not make any charge against Hockaday—I never said he had made some proposal to me of an improper character.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Have you ever said a single syllable either to Mrs. Hedges the washerwoman, or anybody else about any money to be got as the result of this prosecution? A. Never to any one—I have not received a farthing, or any promise of money of any description from any one—when the Countess discharged me I went to Miss Warren's, at whose house I had been staying at the time I first went into the Countess's service—that gentleman (pointing to the Solicitor for the Prosecution) is the only person to whom I made any communication about this matter after I went before the Magistrate—he examined me on the subject-matter of this caae—I stated all I knew to him, and he took it down in writing—the first policeman who came to the Countess's house, did not say that it had been broken from within—there was some writing-paper found in my box, which I had bought myself—I do not know whether there was a coronet stamped at the corner—I never saw any papers in the Countess's possession that had anything but the stationer's mark on it—the note-paper found in my box was my own—I did not take it away with me—the Countess took it away from me; there was a good bit—I should think about half a quire—the Baroness told me to pawn the rings in the name of Mary, or Ann Turner—she told me at that time that the rings had been pledged before—I knew nothing of Hockaday till he came and examined the Countess' premises—Applegate has not been keeping my company—I knew him—I was with him about three times—I returned home that night at half-past eleven o'clock—that was quite two months ago—the Countess did not know I had been out that night, and she did not in the morning—I came in at seven in the morning, and the servant who let me in did not mention it.
JURY. Q. Did you receive the two rings in the back drawing-room, or bed-room? A. I cannot tell.
MARY POTTS . I am now in the service of Mrs. Punch, of Cavendish-road, St. John's Wood. On 28th March, 184", I went to live with Mrs. Swan, 11, Bcntinck-terrace—Eliza Russell was living there as housemaid—I remember hearing of the prisoner's marriage on 1st May—the day before that she came to Mrs. Swan's to see Russell—I opened the door to her, and spoke to her first—she saw Russell—I am positive Russell did not leave the house that day—my mistress gave her permission to go to the Baroness's on the Saturday—she came home that night at half-past ten o'clock—my mistress was very anjjry, and she was discharged on the Monday.
Cross-examined by MR. COCKBURN. Q. When were you examined before the Magistrate? A. I think it was at the first hearing—Eliza went and spoke to Mrs. Swan when the Baroness crime—I went into the kitchen.
CHARLES FLEAY . I am first cousin to Sir John Hare, and carry on business as an estate agent, at Paddington. On Saturday morning, 1st May, about ten o'clock, I went in company with, Sir John Hare to 17, Thayer-strect
—I went into the front drawing-room, and saw the Countess—I afterwards saw the Baroness—Sir John presented me to the Countess—he said, "Mr. Fleay, a friend of mine," and then left me—I made a communication to the Countess; the Baroness came in shortly afterwards, and I said in her presence I had called by the request of Sir John Hare to demand two rings which had passed from Sir John's hands to the Baroness's—I believe I did not mention any time—it was understood to be at Bath—the Countess had explained it—the Baroness said she had not got them, they were returned to Sir John—I returned to Sir John, and told him what had passed.
Cross-examined by MR. COCKBURN. Q. Was it then that you delivered the little account of 13s. 8d.? A. Yes; I got the money and took it to Sir John.
THOMAS HORTON HARDINGE . I reside in Park-lane. I occasionally visited the Countess at Bentinck-terrace—I have frequently seen Eliza Russell there—I met her a few weeks ago, as near as I can recollect; it was at the Countess's door—it was quite accidental—I had some conversation with her—I made a communication to her on the subject of Sir John Hare's rings. Cross-examined by Me. Cockburn. Q. Did you stop her for that purpose? A. No, I stopped her to inquire how the Countess was—she gave a look of recognition as I came up—I was walking rather briskly, but she did not address me as she has stated—I first said to her, "How is the Countess?"—that lead to further conversation; it was not a minute's conversation—I knew Sir John Hare at my table, and at his own also—I did not attend before the Magistrate—I was first called on to come forward in this matter very unexpectedly indeed, yesterday—Sir John himself came to me.
MR. BODKIN. Q. How long was it before you met Russell that you had seen Sir John Hare? A. Not for many months—I should say, in justice to myself, as it might be inferred that I held an unnecessary communication with the girl, that I made only one remark, and that was drawn from me.
SAMUEL HOCKADAY (police-sergeant, S 15). On Wednesday, 25th Oct., I was called to the Countess's house, in Bentinck-terrace—I went from the station in consequence of information; a complaint was made of a robbery having been committed there—I saw the inspector, from him I learnt that the jewels had been lost—the house was being searched, and I joined in the search—suspicion was directed towards the witness, Russell—I cannot say whether it was arranged that she should stay in the house till the matter was further investigated; I was no party to that—I examined the premises—I found a small portion of a pane of glass in the parapet-window had been forced out with some blunt instrument; a triangular piece, just enough to admit three or four fingers, near the catch—that would enable a person to get in—on the following day I found there was an empty house seven doors off—the glass in the area door there had been broken near to the lock—I went through that door through the house, and found an iron bar had been wrenched off from the parapet window, and marks of sooty feet and hands on the wall and floor of the house—I could not trace the marks along the parapet to the Countess's house, because there had been a heavy fall of rain, but I got from that empty house to the window in question myself—I was at the house when Russell was discharged on Saturday evening, 28th Oct.—I was called in on Wednesday, 25th—I had been employed the whole of that time making inquiries—I communicated to the Countess daily the result of those inquiries—the prisoner was in the house when Russell was discharged—I cannot say whether she did or did not hear what took place—on the following Tuesday a communication was made to me by Tomlin, S 250, about the pawning
of some rings—I saw Eliza Russell on that clay, but she made no communication—she came to the station about a duplicate which I held of hers—on Thursday she made a communication to me; in consequence of that I sent Tomlin to Mr. Boyce, the pawnbroker—in consequence of Tomlin's report I wrote to Sir John Hare, and received an answer from him at the station—this is it (produced)—he brought it himself to me at the Salisbury-street station—he accompanied me to Boyce's shop, and we saw a person named Best—Mr. Boyce was not there—the following day we went to his private house and saw him—I met Russell in North Bank when Sir John Hare was with me—she made in communication which Sir John wrote down—after he had written it he read it over to her—we then went to the Marylebone police-court, and Sir John applied to the Court with reference to the case—we then proceeded toward the residence of the Countess, and as we were going we met the Baron, the Baroness, the Countess, and a gentleman whose name I do not know, walking in front of Portland-terrace—I arrested the Baroness, and told her that Sir John Hare charged her with felony, and told her it was relative to two diamond rings some time since—I do liot recollect the exact words I used—the Baroness protested her innocence, and said the matter had been investigated before—Sir John Hare was with me—there was an appeal to his feelings, but I do not remember the words—I was addressing the gentleman who was with the party, and do not know the words that passed—we proceeded to the station—she still protested her innocence, but the charge was taken—I believe there was an appeal to Sir John from the Countess and also from the Baroness, but I do not recollect in what terms—Sir John persisted in the charge.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. When the Baroness protested her innocence was Sir John Hare close to you? A. Quite close; he must have heard it—I believe the Baroness was searched at the station by the female searcher—that was not at the express direction of Sir John Hare—it is our rule to search every one charged with felony—it is a rule we do not I deviate from—I was at each examination at the police-court—Sir John Hare J was examined first on the first occasion; then Russell, and then Francis Best—Mary Potts was only called on the last examination—there were three examinations altogether.
FRANCIS BEST . I am assistant to Mr. Boyce, pawnbroker, at Paddington—I remember on 1st May, 1847, taking two rings in pledge—I have seen Eliza Russell—I cannot positively say that she is the person I took them in of; I believe she is—I advanced 10/. on them—I do not recollect in what money that was—the rings have been sold—one was a cluster diamond ring and the other an emerald, a green stone set round with diamonds—I cannot say whether one was smaller than the other—the cluster diamond ring has been broken up after they were sold at the pawnbroker's sale at the expiration of the twelve months for which we are bound to keep them—Mr. Boyce purchased them for 16l. at the public auction at Debenham and Storr's, in King—I street, Covent-garden—that was on 15th August last—the rings had been previously pledged at our shop; I believe by the same person as pledged them on this last occasion, and that was Russell according to my belief—I have no doubt at all on the subject—the previous pawning was on 30th April, Friday—I do not know who took them out—I cannot say whether I delivered them out—I did not fill up the first ticket, I did the second—I cannot say when the diamond ring was broken up—Mr. Boyce told me it was broken up—I have not seen it—I did not sell the other—it was not sold at Paddington—Mr. Boyce told me it was sold—Eliza Russell called at our shop before the
police came—I think it must have been on the Tuesday before the Baroness was taken—she had not, to my knowledge, ever pawned anything with us before—I think the rings must have been pledged in the afternoon of the Saturday—I cannot say the hour, it was in the after part of the day.
Cross-examined by MR. COCKBURN. Q. Have you the entry here? A. Yes; and the duplicates—I made the last one out myself—it is my impression that the same person pledged them on both occasions—I was present on both occasions—Loft is the name of the man in the shop who made out the first duplicate; he is in Court—he consulted me as to what he should advance on the rings, and so my attention was called to the transaction—I saw the person that came with the rings—they were pawned in the name of Mary Wilson, 12, Gower-street, on both occasions—the person who brought them, and asked 10l. on them—the question is generally put by the pawnbroker, "How much do you want?"—I must have put the question as to the name, it is the usual course of business so to do, and I make a corresponding entry in the book—there can be no mistake about the name—an emerald set in diamonds is a common form of ring; the cluster is still more common, it is the common form of a diamond ring, especially an oldfashioned one—the diamonds in the cluster ring were rather darkish—my impression was that they were not of the first water—the appearance of the ring rather led me to think lightly of it—I do not remember that there was any particular brilliancy about the diamonds round the emerald ring—according to the best of my opinion, they were not so good as those in the cluster ring—they were of an inferior description certainly—when Eliza Russell came to me the other day, she asked me for a fresh duplicate.
MR. CLARKSOK. Q. Are you any judge of diamonds? A. I have not had so much experience as some in the trade—we generally like to be on the right side in valuing articles—I was not present at the sale of the rings—of course we anticipated they would fetch 10l., or we should not have lent it on them—I do not know what the one was sold for—when I received the rings on the Saturday, I directly knew them to be the same that had been redeemed on the Friday night—I did not make out the ticket of the previous pledging—I positively swear I did not take the name and address from the previous ticket.
GEORGE JOHN BOYCE . I am a pawnbroker—I have a shop at Paddington, and another in Theobald's-road—I remember some inquiry about these rings—I was present at Debenham's and Storr's when they were sold, and bought them for 16l.—I broke the cluster ring up, and I was very doubtful whether the other was an emerald; and having inferior brilliants round it I sold it as a common ring, either in a lot or separately, I do not recollect which—I think I took them in my pocket from the sale, and broke one up after a few days, or it might be a week—I broke it up with my hands—I have sold part of the stones, and some I have by me now; I have the centre one still, I have not got it here—I told the Magistrate I had the stones now—I sold the emerald ring in the same state in which I bought it—I sold it from my house in Theobald's-road—it is not at all usual to sell them in the same place they are pawned at—I cannot give you the slightest—notion to—whom I sold it, nor the price—it might have been sold in a lot.
ROBERT EDWARDS BROUGHTON, ESQ . I presided at the Marylebone police-court on the occasion of the examination of the prisoner on this charge—after the evidence was concluded, the prisoner was called upon, in the terms of the Statute, to know if she had anything to say or wished to say—she made a statement, which was taken down in writing by the clerk—when the depositions
were read over, that statement was read over also—this is the statement (looking at the deposition)—it is signed by me—(read—the prisoner says, "Sir John Hare offered me marriage at Bath, at his house, and said he was a richer man than my husband—Sir John took a little box from a desk and said, 'Look here, Emma, and took them and put them on my finger, and I showed them to my mother, and my mother gave them to me again, and I gave them to the Baron, and he gave them to Sir John, and I never saw them again—I know nothing of the rings spoken of by the pawnbroker—Sir John came up: to town; he said something about rings, and I said, 'You do not mean that you want to see my wedding-ring'—after that he said he wanted his rings.")
NOT GUILTY .
NEW COURT.—Saturday, December 2nd, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. Moon and Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Sixth Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY . Aged 15.— Confined Two Months.
GUILTY . Aged 14.—' Confined Two Months.
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY .— Judgment Respited.
GUILTY . Aged 21.— Judgment Respited.
NOT GUILTY, being Insane .
(MR. CLARKSON offered no evidence.)
NOT GUILTY .
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. How long has he been there? A. About three years—seventy or eighty persons are employed there.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 35.— Confined Four Months.
MR. WILDE conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM MURPHY (police-sergeant, V 40). On Friday evening, 17th Nov., I saw Wharton and Hewson, and went next day to the residence of the two prisoners in Kew-road, Richmond—in the front shop I saw George Bolton—I asked if he had bought any lead from any one lately—he said, "No"—I said, "Are you quite sure of that"—he said, "Yes"—I said, "Have you got any lead on the premises"—he said, "No"—I then read a search-warrant to him, and proceeded to search the premises with the assistance of two other officers—Roberts called my attention to a lot of bricks in the yard, under which were these seventy-one pieces of lead—fifty-eight pieces are new weighing about 350lbs.—the old weighs 55lbs.—I searched in the bed-room, and found two lockers containing brass taps, a dozen rasps, and other things—George Bolton gave me the keys—I saw a cart standing close to the heap of bricks which had "George Bolton" on it, with some lead in it in a bag—I brought away the books.
Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. I believe you were examined several times before the Magistrate? A. Yes—he thought there was not sufficient evidence—I brought more almost immediately—James was not at the premises—I was obliged to call the assistance of other men, two or three hundred persons got round the door—there was a small sack over the bricks—George gave me the key of his boxes, and conducted me all over his premises—there was no disinclination on his part—he was not in custody when we began to search, but we should not have let him go away.
MR. WILDE. Q, Were you present when this piece of lead was found? A. Yes—George Bolton said to Mr. Beadon, "Don't mark that, that did not come from your place; I had that from another place," or words tantamount to that—I did not recollect that on my first examination.
JESSE ROBERTS (policeman, V 96), I went to the prisoner's premises on 18th Nov. with the other officer—George said to a man who was at work, "Go and fetch my brother"—previous to that, I pulled the sack of the bricks, and saw the lead—I was present when this piece was marked—George said,. "Don't mark that, I had it from another place."
Cross-examined. Q. How far was the lead from the house? A. Just in the rear of it, in the yard—there are several sheds there, occupied I believe by different persons—it is entered by a gate—it was always understood to be George Bolton's yard—I believe he was in the house when I found this lead—he came into the yard when the other officer spoke to him about it.
GEORGE WOODS (policeman, V 209). I followed the other officers to George Bolton's—the search-warrant was read, and we went into the back premises. to search—when George and I were near the top of the yard Roberts called
out, "Here it is"—George said to me, "Oh they have found it"—we went back to that part of the yard, and saw Roberts pulling out the lead—a cart was standing near with "George Bolton" on it—George said to a man that worked in the shop, "Go and fetch my brother"—when he came he said to him, "They have found it"—James Bolton replied, "What have I to do with it; I have nothing to do with it"—I searched the cart, and found some lead—we then went into the house, and opened a bureau with a key which George gave, and found these books—both prisoners got hold of them, and swore we should not have them.
Cross-examined. Q. Is it an open yard? A. It is enclosed by gates—persons who have premises up the yard have keys—I can only find two persons who have access to it.
THOMAS BEADON . I am superintendent of the works at Kennar-hall—this lead is the property of Mr. John Kelk—we missed property from about 1st or 2nd Nov.—none of this would have been removed by Mr. Kelk's permission or mine.
Cross-examined. Q. Is there a Mr. Mole who has something to do with it? A. There is a man of that name working there as a journeyman under me—he is nothing superior to another working man—I have the supreme command over this lead—the keys are delivered to me—I can identify this piece of lead—it fits another piece which I have brought here—they have been sawn, not cut—an immense quantity of lead is cast of this shape and form—I missed a great deal before any one was apprehended—I had been on the watch from the beginning of Nov.
RICHARD SWABY . I am a carman, and occupy some sheds near the prisoner's house—George Bolton had the occupation of the corner where the bricks and lead were—I have seen him taking lead from there—I believe I never saw James there.
Cross-examined. Q. Do you mean you have seen George loading anything from there? A. I have seen him taking lead from that corner several times, but it is a long time ago since I saw him take the last—the yard is let to different persons—I have sheds there—other persons have access to it.
JOHN HEWSON (a prisoner). I am a labourer—I was employed in Nov. at Kennar-hall—I never took any lead belonging to Mr. Kelk—I can swear to this one piece of lead—it was made in the plumber's shop at Kennar-hall, on the Wednesday before the Friday on which we were taken—I know Bolton's premises—I went there with some others with some lead three weeks ago last Monday—a strange man weighed the lead, and took us into the parlour—George Bolton put the money on the table—I never went at any other time.
Cross-examined. Q. You have come out of Newgate? A. Yes; I was charged with stealing lead—some was found on me—I never stole it—I was working at a job with Wharton—he opened a box in his bed-room, took out the lead, and asked me to accompany him to Richmond with it—I did. not know where it came from—I not 9d. for my share—I thought that rather queer.
(The prisoners received good characters.)
GEORGE BOLTON— GUILTY . Aged 32.— Confined One Year .
JAMES BOLTON— NOT GUILTY .
WHARTON pleaded GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Six Months.
No evidence was offered against
HEWSON— NOT GUILTY .
EMILY CHARSLEY . On 8th Nov. I was in Mr. William Graham's service; between six and seven o'clock that evening I heard a knock at the door—I went, and saw Josephs—he said he had brought a pot of pickled fish which. had been ordered—I went up stairs and inquired; it had not been ordered—I came down and told him—I was away about two minutes—after he was gone, a coat and rug which hung on the balustrades was gone—no one else had been in the house.
Cross-examined by MR. MELLER. Q. Do you keep a lamp in the hall? A. No, you can see the hall from the kitchen—I saw them safe when I went up stairs—I did not miss them till somebody else called—some of them were my master's—I had no light in my hand—the light in. the kitchen lights the hall sufficient to see everything—Josephs had a frock coat on.
RICHARD LAWLEY . About half-past six o'clock, on 8th Nov. I was in Red Lion-court—Mr. Graham's is opposite that court—I saw Josephs in the blacksmith's shop in the middle of the court—he had nothing with him—Myers came, and brought him a coat from the prosecutor's house—Myers then went back again, and I saw him go into Mr. Graham's, take another coat, and give it to another boy—I gave information.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. When did you see Josephs again? A. When he was in custody—the policeman called me up, and said, "Is this the boy?"—I said it was—I am a cooper, and work with my father—it was rather dark when I saw Josephs—I had seen Myers two or three times before.
NOT GUILTY .
MARY DAVIS . On 30th Oct. I was in the service of Mr. Silvester Lewis Samuel. Between ten and eleven o'clock that night the prisoner came, and said he had brought the bloaters which the gentleman and lady had ordered, and he was sorry he could not bring them before—I went to the top of the kitchen stairs—I returned, and he was very much confused—he took them, and retreated back, and went away—I then missed a coat from the passage.
Cross-examined by MR. MELLER. Q. When did you next see him? A. The policeman called on me on the Saturday week following, between two and three o'clock in the morning—I went to the station, and saw the prisoner—he was in our house a minute or two—I was not out of the hall—we have gas there—he had a frock-coat on—I did not express any doubt about his person—this coat was not hanging up—it was folded up, and was a large bulk—he had nothing in his hand when he brought the bloaters—I had the coat in my hand ten minutes before—several coats, umbrellas, and other things, were in the hall—I may have made mistakes—I am not mistaken about the prisoner's person—I missed this coat in about four minutes afterwards—during that time I was in the kitchen—our door fastens with a spring lock.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Months.
JOSEPH DOBSON . I am a grocer. The prisoner was in my service—on 18th Nov. I watched him, and saw him put his hand into his waistcoat pocket—I went into the shop to speak to him, but returned, and saw him take half-a-crown from a customer—he gave the change—I then saw the half-crowu in
his hand—he did not put it into the till—I went towards him, and he dropped it behind him—he said, "It is only a weight, Sir; I will pick it up"—I said, "Come away from the counter"—I looked down, and found the half-crown.
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. Who was in the shop? A. A good many customers—there were two persons to serve besides the prisoner—it was a little after eleven o'clock at night—I did not look into the till—I saw him throw the hall-crown on the counter, and go to the till to get change—I do not know what the customer bought—the prisoner was with me about eighteen months.
JAMES GAIR (policeman A 447). I took the prisoner—he said, "Master, I am very sorry; I know I have done wrong; I hope you will forgive me this time."
Cross-examined. Q. That was after some almonds were taken from his pocket? A. Yes.
NOT GUILTY .
MR. PREDERGAST conducted the Prosecution.
JOSEPH DOBSON . The prisoner was in my employ—I saw him put his hand to his left-hand waistcoat pocket, when 1 thought he should be putting money into the till—I afterwards saw his trowsers thickly coated with sugar, where he had a sort of bag in place of the right-hand pocket—I found in it some almonds, and in his right-hand waistcoat pocket a half-crown—I could not swear that he got the half-crown from the till—it was his business to put all money into the till—I then charged him with it, and then found the bag with the almonds—it is not here—he said before the Magistrate he bad left it at the House of Detention—it was sent for, and could not be found—there was from three ounces to a quarter of a pound of almonds in it, worth from 3d. to 4d.—they were such as I had in my stock—they are twin-almonds, flat on one side—I do not allow the men to put any into their pockets—if I saw them eating any I should not say anything.
JAMES GAIR (policeman, A 447). I took the prisoner—he said he was sorry for it—he admitted he had done wrong, and he hoped his master would for give him—his pocket was very greasy, as if it had been carrying sugar—these are the almonds.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY of Stealing the Almonds. Aged 33.— Confined Four Months.
JOHN WALKER . The prisoner was my pot-boy—I missed money from my till, and marked some money, and showed it to the policeman—I put 1l., in shillings, sixpences, and fourpenny-pieces, into the till when 1 left the bar to go to dinner—whin I returned, I took out all the marked money that was left, and put it into a bit of paper—several puces were gone, which had reduced it to about 15s.—at night I put it in again—it went on so for two or three days, and when I had no more marked money to put in I sent for the policeman—he searched the prisoner's box, and found 1l. 17s., and one was this marked shilling.
Cross-examined by MR. MELLER. Q. You asked him for the key of his box, he gave it you, and you found the shilling? A. Yes—he had been in my employ about nine months—there are three persons in my bar to take money besides me—I had not marked any money for six months before this—I think it was on 18th Nov. I began to put marked money into the till,
and I made this charge on the 29th—I put that same marked money into the till a great many times—I had been to his box three times—I had a key of it.
NOT GUILTY .
141. EBENEZER JONES , stealing 1 watch, value 20l., the goods of Mary Ann Bale; and 2 brooches and 1 handkerchief, 3l. 4s., the goods of Ann Harman; in the dwelling-house of William Leddelow; also 3 coats and other articles, 15l., the goods of John Marshall, in his dwelling-house: to both which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined Eighteen Months.
JOHN MALCOLM SCOTT . I am a mariner. I got acquainted with the prisoner about 7th Nov.—I went to a public-house and talked and drank with him—he was going to put me on board a ship—I gave him a quadrant and waistcoat—he told me he had a ship—he went away with my quadrant—this is it (produced).
WILLIAM CHARLES POTTER (policeman, K 212). I took the prisoner—I asked him where the quadrant was—he said he knew not—I found it at the Whit by coffee-shop—his wife brought it there in Scott's presence, and left it there, when the prisoner was remanded—this is it—the waistcoat has not been found.
Prisoner. I told you I had the quadrant, and put it on the seat in the public-house. Witness. No, you said you knew nothing of it; you believed the other man stole it.
Prisoner's Defence. I knew nothing of it from the time I put it on the seat of the public-house.
GUILTY . Aged 29. Transported for Seven Tears.
WILLIAM JONES HUNT . I keep a shop in Tottenham-court-road. On 24th Nov. I was at the door, and saw the prisoner take a pair of trowsers from a chair outside the door—I followed and took her—she dropped the trowsers—these are them—they are my employer's, William Seeley's.
GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined One Year .
HIRD pleaded GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Nine Months.
WILLIAM RENDALL . I am a picture-dealer, of Tonbridge-street. On 16th Nov. my son was bringing some boots from the makers and lost them—he is seven years old—he knows right from wrong—I believe these are them.
WILLIAM RENDALL the younger. On 16th Nov. I was coming along with some books which I got from Mr. Clements—I saw Dillon and Hird—Dillon took hold of my pinafore while Hird took the boots—Dillon told me to go round the corner to get something—I went, and then I saw some little girls, who said the prisoner had run away—I had seen Dillon before, and knew her.
DILLON— GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Ten Days.
Prisoner. I was not out of the house; I was going to get some water. Witness. No, he was going towards the street—it was under his smock-frock—he said he had nothing upon him.
GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined One Year .
MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the Prosecution.
THOMAS LOCKERBY (policeman, S 180). On Saturday night, 18th Nov., I saw Brown in Southampton-street, carrying something—I followed him, and saw him put it over some railings into an area at the end of Jones's house—there are several boards placed right across the area—there is no window, but a door in the basement into the area—it can be seen by day-light—it is generally kept shut—I lifted up what Brown had placed on the boards, and found it was lead—Brown had then gone into Churchway, which is the front way to Jones's house—I concealed myself for a few minutes, and Brown came out of the front door into Churchway, took the lead, and pnt it through the railings cm to another board a little lower down the area—I took hold of him, and asked what he had got, he said, "Nothing particular, only a parcel I brought for Mr. Jones; wait a minute, Mr. Jones will be here for it"—at that instant Jones opened the little door and came into the area—the lead was about as high as his breast—he took hold of one end of it—I caught the other end and said, "Stop. I will take that"—Brown said, "That is your property, is it not, Mr. Jones?"—Jones looked up and saw me; he knew me—he had seen me before, and he said, "No," I think, I will not be positive—I took Brown and the lead to the station—I came back to Jones's shop and said to him, "Well, what about this lead?"—he said, "Well, I had not it"—I said, "I shall take you into custody for receiving the lead, knowing it was stolen"—he said, "It was never in my shop"—I said, "No, but on your premises, and in your possession"—he said, "You never saw me pay for the lead"—I said, "No, I did not"—I found a half-crown and a shilling on Brown—I asked him where he got that from—he said he had earned if at a penny or twopence a time—I said I thought it was money he had received for the lead—he said, "No," and he had never taken anything to Jones's shop before—at the Police-court Jones told me he had a good mind to cut—he said, "I would have come back again on Monday morning; I thought you would come for me; you need not say I received the lead; I should not mind giving you a pound or two;" and then his wife said, in his presence, "I will give you 3l. "—this was in the Police-court passage—I took tins lead to a place belonging to Mr. Baker, in South
Crescent-mews—I compared it with the lead on the wall there—it matched exactly—I tried it on three or four places—there was a great quantity of lead stolen from there—I found this catch there.
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. How long has Jones had that shop? A. About two years—I did not search the place afterwards—I did not see pieces of board in the area—a little door opens into the area—he did not take anything out of the area.
Cross-examined. Q. Who are you tenant to? A. To Mr. Cleverton—I am a cab proprietor—I keep my horses there—I have one partner—I have lived in those premises nearly two years—Mr. Graham is not partner in those premises—he has nothing to do with my stable at all—he keeps his horse in his own stable—the cabs do not belong to him.
WILLIAM JOHN BROWN (policeman, S 67). I was in, the passage of the police-court when the prisoners were there—I heard Jones say to Lockerby, "I had a great mind to cut it on Saturday night; I thought you would come for me, as it was such a long time to lie in the cell till Monday"—he said to me, "I should not mind spending 2l. or 3l. with such a man as you or Lockerby, and have nothing more to do with the case"—he said he knew nothing of Brown before.
Brown's Defence. The lead was given me in Seymour-street—the greater part of the money I had was given me by my father.
Witness for the Defence.
WILLIAM ELLIOTT . I live in Sidmouth-street, Gray's-inn-road—I have known Jones for the last four or five years—I was in his shop on that Saturday evening between six and seven o'clock—Brown-came in—he had nothing with him—he asked Jones if he would buy a piece of lead—Jones said, "No"—Brown went out of the shop—after he was gone a man came in and said, "What do you want for two pieces of board outside—he went outside—the boards came to 7d.—the man gave Jones 1s.—he gave the child the shilling to get change—I did not see the policeman take Brown.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Did you see Jones go in the area? A. No; he went out with the other man to look at these boards—I did not see Jones and the officer talking together—Jones came back to the shop—he did not tell me that an officer had been asking him whether some lead belonged to him, or had been taking some from the area—the boards were over the area outside—there were two pieces on the stage or platform—I have worked for Jones for the last eight months—Brown had been gone about three minutes before the man came into the shop—I remained in the shop about five minutes after the man was gone—the shop door is towards Church way.
BROWN— GUILTY .— Confined Three Months.
JONES— GUILTY .— Transported for Seven Years.
THIRD COURT—Saturday, December 2nd, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. MOON, and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq. and the Fourth Jury.
NOT GUILTY .
The pipe being the property of Edmund Cobbett and another, the prisoners, were
HARRIET COLVIN . I am wife of Henry Colvin, who keeps the Brass-founders' Arms, Whitechapel. The prisoners were in the skittle-ground on 3rd Nov., playing—I had a glass in the parlour safe at about a quarter-past nine—my husband came in at a quarter past ten, and it was gone—the prisoners had left about a quarter of an hour before—I just saw their shoulders as they went—the bar is very high—a person could have taken it and gone away without my seeing, but not unless they laid on their hands and knees—King returned for his jacket which he had left in the corner of the bar—a woman came into the house; I served her—she did not go to the skittle-ground or anywhere else—the prisoners came to the skittle-ground next evening and were taken.
HENRY BRECHT . I am the son of the last witness, and live in the house. Just before the glass was missed I saw both of the prisoners—Jones hustled me by the handkerchief in the skittle-ground—I did not see King then—I saw him go out of the skittle-ground—Jones left about a quarter of an hour afterwards—I saw him go through the house and out at the door—I saw the jacket on the corner of the bar—the glass was missed about three-quarters of an hour after they were gone—I did not see any one leave the house during that time—persons might have left without my seeing them.
NOT GUILTY .
(The prosccutrix did not appear.)
NOT GUILTY .
MR. WILDE conducted the Prosecution.
ELIZABETH MARY GREGORY . I am the wife of Daniel Gregory, a labourer, of Barking. I thought myself entitled to the Golden Fleece public-house, and put myself in communication with the prisoner, about Good Friday last—he said he was a writer in the law, and could procure the property for me—on 25th April I gave him 2l. for these copies of wills, which he said he had obtained at Doctors' Commons that morning (produced)—he said I was entitled to the property, which appears by these wills—he sent me upwards of fifty letters, one contained this receipt, which he said would enable me to receive 14l., which he would send me by a post-office order—(the letter requested the witness to send the prisoner 1l., as he had expended money on her business)—he said he got the receipt from Butler and Son, and that it would enable me to get 14l.—upon that I gave him 10s.
Prisoner. Q. How many post-office orders did you send me? A. So many that I cannot say, and I have given money to Mr. Cooper, a friend of yours, by your directions—he said he would forward it to you.
WILLIAM HENRY MARLOW SIDNEY . I am a solicitor, of Hatton-garden. I have searched at Doctors' Commons for the wills of Lady and Arthur Hubbard, but could find no such names—these documents are not copies of wills which would be sent from Doctors' Commons—they are on paper, bearing the seal of, and only used in, the Court of Chancery—I have inquired for the person mentioned in the receipt—there is no such person there.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
ELIZABETH MARY GREGORY . The prisoner told me he had received a decree of the Lord Chancellor, in consequence of which I went to town about 16th Aug.—he said the decree was made, and he wanted to get it, and wanted, the money to pay for it—I gave him 3l.—he produced this document (produced), and said it was done privately, because the Lord Chancellor was ill, and that by that, and nothing else, I was to take possession of the property in a coach and four, with Mr. Hide, the Lord Chancellor's officer—he said this was the Lord Chancellor's seal, and I must not break it.
GUILTY . Aged 32.— Confined Twelve Months.
NOT GUILTY .
ELIZABETH MOODY . I am cook to Mr. Hamilton, of Hampstead. On 31st Oct. I had a check for 8l., for money owing to me—I went to the prisoner's father's shop to get it changed—the prisoner was in the shop—he used to come for orders—I could not get change, and went out—the prisoner followed me and said he would get it changed for me—I gave it him—he never brought me the change—I gave him in charge on 10th Nov.—this is the check (produced).
Cross-examined by MR. CROUCH. Q. He is a baker? A. Yes—I did not look at the date of the check, or the banker's name—I know it, because I put my name on it.
JOHN AVAN . I keep the King of Bohemia, at Hampstead. On 31st Oct., the prisoner called and asked if I would change a check for Mr. Hamilton's cook—I did so—I change three or four a week—this is it—I know it by the cook's name.
Cross-examined. Q. Do you know her writing? A. No—I know Mr. Hamilton's, and I know it by the date, and by the crossing of Mr. Bland, who I paid it to, with three other checks of Mr. Hamilton's, one for 10l., one for 12l., and I forget the amount of the other—I believe the prisoner had some drink just as he went away—he complained of the tooth-ache, and said he must go to the doctor's—I have seen him many times.
Cross-examined. Q. Have you a mark on it? A. Yes—A van's name is in my writing, and the cross—I took two others for 10l. and 12l.
Cross-examined. Q. How do you know that? A. Because it is crossed
so, and I wrote Barclays' on it, and we are Captain Hamilton's bankers, and we only had one check that day for 8l.
JOHN STYMAX (policeman). I took the prisoner leaving the House of Correction, and asked if he knew anything about Captain Hamilton, or his robbery—he said, "Then I suppose I shall get seven years transportation," or words to that effect—I found 5l. 6s. 3 1/2 d. on him.
Cross-examined. Q. Did he mention any other case? A. He said, "Which case are you going to take me on."
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY , recommended to mercy. Aged 24.— Confined Twelve Months.
OLD COURT.—Monday, December 4th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. RECORDER and Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE.
Before Mr. Recorder and the Second Jury.
ISABELLA KING . I live with my mother, Mary King, at St. Maxk's-terrace, New Brompton, in the parish of Kensington. On 7th Nov., about five o'clock in the afternoon, I missed a basket of plate from the parlour cupboard—it was worth about 10l.—I saw a man with a top coat and light hair in the garden in front of the house about two o'clock—he looked up at the house twice—I did not see that he had anything—the garden gate was open—this is the basket and plate (produced)—they are my mother's.
JOSEPH BALCOMB (policeman, V 302). On 7th Nov., about five minutes to two o'clock, I saw the prisoner about 100 yards from Mrs. King's, with something under his arm—I asked what he had got—he said, "A basket, of plate"—I asked bow he came by it—he said a man gave it him—he made a desperate resistance, and a constable came to my assistance—this silk-handkerchief was over the basket, and four combs were in it—he had a frock coat on—this signature to this deposition is Mr. Broderip's—(read—"The prisoner says, 'I had the basket given to me to carry to Battersea Pier; he said he would meet me there and reward me for my trouble; at the time I was taken I had not a frock coat but a Chesterfield, which is now in the cell."
Cross-examined by MR. MELLER. Q. Did you see any one near? A. No.
BETSY LEWIS . I missed the plate, and told my mistress of it—I had seen it safe about one o'clock—I was washing in the back kitchen at two—a person could enter by the area door and go to where the plate was—it was on the same floor.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY —Recommended to mercy. Aged 22.— Confined One Year .
(MR. PARNELL offered no evidence.)
NOT GUILTY .
THOMAS DUNN . I am a rope-maker, of Stepney-square. On 16th Nov. the prisoner brought me some yarn which I had ordered of Mr. Tubbs—paid him 12s.—I put his name on this bill (produced)—he made this mark to it.
prisoner to Mr. Dunn with some yarn—he has never accounted to me for the 12s.
GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Two Months.
NOAH CARTER . I am a butcher, in Queen's-terrace, St. Jobn's-wood. The prisoner was my apprentice for three years—he carried out meat, and received money for it—it was his duty to account to me daily—Mrs. Laing is a customer—I make up her accounts weekly.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. I believe you are not anxious to press this case? A. Not at all—this is the first time this sort of thing has occurred—I think he was under particular circumstances at the time—my daughter sometimes receives money, and hands it to me—she is not here.
COURT. Q. Is he still your apprentice? A. Yes—I do not prosecute him in order to get rid of him—I had 30l. premium with him—his father will place him somewhere else—I have not been promised repayment of the money he has embezzled.
NOT GUILTY .
WILLIAM IRELAND THURGOOD . I live at 48, Brick-lane, St. Luke's. The prisoner has worked for me about twelve months, off and on—I lost a square, which the prisoner used on my premises—I questioned him about it, and after some time he gave tip the duplicate of it, with several others—I have lost a quantity of tools since he has worked for me.
Prisoner's Defence. I had no intention of defrauding him; I intended to redeem it.
NOT GUILTY .
NOT GUILTY .
NEW COURT.—Monday, December 4th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. WILLIAM HUNTER; Mr. Ald. MOON; and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq. and the Fifth Jury.
GEORGE TEWSLEY (policeman, B 181). About half-past six on the evening of 22nd Nov. I was in Sloane-square, in plain clothes, and saw the prisoner coming up Simon-street with this pillow.-case—he went to a marine-store shop—I went to the window, and saw him taking this horse-hair out of this pillow-case, and putting it into the scale—I went in and asked where he got that hair—he said, "Out of some old chairs"—I asked where the chairs were—he said he broke them up a long while ago—I said I would take him to the station—he said if that was the case, he could show me the old chairs—he took me to Messrs. Mitchell and St. John's back warehouse, in Simon-street—there were no chairs there, but I found an old horse-hair mattress, which had several holes, and a quantity of horse-hair taken out.
CHARLES CHINN (policeman, A 255). I was with Tewsley—I saw the prisoner putting the horse-hair into the scale—he then took us to the back of the premises in Simon-street—I then took him to the front of the premises, and he acknowledged to Mr. Mitchell and Mr. St. John that it was the first time he had taken any, and he did it merely to get sixpence—I took him to the station.
Prisoner. I never mentioned about the first time; I said it was my own.
JOSIAH ST. JOHN . I am partner with Henry Mitchell, as upholsterers. I went to our warehouse and found the prisoner—we had been robbed, and gave him leave to live there to protect the place—I found in the room adjoining the room he slept in, a mattress of ours, which had been opened—I took the prisoner to my shop in Cadogan-row—he said it was the first time, and he did it to get a sixpence—I cannot swear to this horse-hair—it appeared the same sort as that in the mattress.
Prisoner. It was my own. Witness. I had seen the mattress about three weeks before—it was cut at the side, but not cut in the middle then.
Prisoner's Defence. We never buy horse-hair mattresses, but we cut them in different places; that bit of horse-hair was my own; I cut the mattress open in his presence to prove that it was horse-hair.
GUILTY . Aged 60.— Confined Three Months.
MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN FREDERICK FRANK . I have two partners—we are warehousemen and commission-agents, in Bow-lane. In July last the prisoner came with a person who he represented to be a merchant—the prisoner was a stranger—he said a party in Manchester, who was well known to us, had told him that we had certain goods which he wanted for some party—we showed him some—he said he was a commission-agent, and he was buying for other parties—he first asked for gingham, and requested us to let him have a sample—he came next day, and brought back the sample, and began to bargain about the price—I told him we should only sell for cash—he said he was buying for cash, and for other people—he came very frequently to the warehouse after that, and amongst other samples, he obtained three samples of velvets—in the course of the times that he came, I repeatedly asked him to return the samples of velvets—he made excuses—at one time he said he forgot them—he had brought in the first sample he had, and other samples, but not the velvets—he had them about 19th Aug.—the other goods had been looked out that he wanted to have; we had put them aside, we said we wanted the thing settled one way or the other—he said a bill was coming due on 18th Aug.,
and after that he promised to pay—after 18th Aug. he said he could not find room in a vessel where the goods were to be shipped, and asked us to wait a few days longer—I gave him this list of the articles and prices, to show the party for whom he bought the goods—he had asked for it for that purpose—that was the only reason I gave it him—I never intended to give him any credit—I told him so from the beginning—it refers, amongst other things, to the goods of which I had furnished him samples, and to the velvets amongst the rest—he came again on 31st Aug., and asked for an invoice, or list of all the goods he had bargained for, to show to the party the amount of money that he was to be prepared with the next day—I furnished him with the invoice, amounting to 553l.—next day he called again—he was conversing with me in the warehouse, and a gentleman came in from the country—he asked me, in the prisoner's presence, loud enough for him to hear, whether I knew him—I said we only knew that he said he came from a party we knew in Manchester—the gentleman went on to say that he was a swindler, and several persons in Manchester had lost goods by him—the prisoner passed by us and went out, I did not think he would run away all at once, but he slipped away, and said he would come in again—I did not see him again till he was in custody, about six weeks afterwards—I have seen my velvet samples produced by the pawnbrokers.
Prisoner. Q. What numbers did I have, and what lengths? A. One piece was twenty-one yards and a half, another was twenty yards and three-quarters, about sixty yards in all—you had at one time fifteen yards, that you brought back—that was before 19th Aug.—you said where you lived, and after you were gone we sent there, and you did not live there—you bought only for cash—I have not put on these bills "Net cash"—they were not intended as invoices, but merely to show the price of the goods.
COURT. Q. Did you inquire into bis character? A. We wrote to Manchester, and the person said he did not know much of him, but he thought we should be safe in selling anything for cash.
JAMES KEELEY . I was with the policeman and another man when the prisoner was taken—I went with them in a cab from the Islington station to Bow-Jane—after the other person had left to go into his employer's, Mr. Frank's, I saw the prisoner fumbling about under the tail of his coat—he took out a pocket-book, and took some duplicates out of the pocket—he raised himself up, and put them under the cushion—when the officer took the prisoner out, I lifted up the cushion, and there were the duplicates—the prisoner turned round, and said, "These are my property"—the officer told me to give them to him, and I did.
Prisoner. Q. Did I take them out of the pocket-book? A. Yes—I sat opposite you; the officer sat at your side—his attention was drawn from you while you did this.
HENRY HEWITT (policeman, N 164). On 14th Nov. I took the prisoner in charge—he had this carpet bag with him, which I examined—these boots, and two or three things, were in it—we came in a cab to Bow-lane—after I got out, Mr. Keeley delivered to me these duplicates—there are sixteen of them—the prisoner claimed them—three of them apply to the velvets.
HENRY BILSON . I am assistant to Mr. Barker, a pawnbroker, of Hounds-ditch. I produce this piece of velvet, pawned on 19th Aug., by the prisoner, for 4l. 10s., in the name of John Bordie, Camomile-street—he said it was his own property—this is the duplicate I gave him.
I produce a piece of velvet, pawned on 30th Aug., by the prisoner, for 4l.—this is the duplicate I gave him—he gave his name, "William Baldy, 18, Ca omile-street."
ABRAHAM BODMAN . I am in the employ of Mr. Russell, a pawnbroker, of Shoreditch. I produce a piece of velvet, pawned by the prisoner, on 23rd Aug., for 4l. 4s., in the name of John Bordie—this is the duplicate I gave.
SAMUEL KINGSWELL . I act as porter in the house of Messrs. Frank and Co. About three months ago I went with the prisoner with some samples—I went first to 5, Carpenter's-buildings—he went inside, and told me to remain outside; and when he came out he told me to follow him, which I did, to 94, London-wall—he then told me to leave the parcel, and that would do—I left it with him—he knocked at the door—as I was coming back I met the prisoner in Moorgate-street—he asked me what I wanted—I told him I was going back to my place—he said, "May be you want a penny," and he gave me one.
Prisoner's Defence. I can assure you I never robbed any person in my life; I have not stolen these goods, though he charges me with doing it; you will find this velvet is down in this bill; they sold me the goods in a proper way.
GUILTY . Aged 29.— Confined Eighteen Months .
(There were two other indictments against the prisoner.)
163. ALEXANDER JOHN COCHRANE was indicted for embezzling the sums of 21l. 2s. 9d., 15l. 6s. 2d., 15l., and 24l. 19s.; the moneys of Joshua Dorset Joseph Mayhew, his master; also, for stealing 69l. 6s. 3d. of his said master: to all which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Eighteen Months.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
MESSRS. CLARKSON and WORSLEY conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN OZWIN KNOWLES . I am agent to Mr. Thomas Brassey, a contractor employed on the railroad near Feltham. I missed property of his at various times, from the 4th to the 9th Nov.—on the 9th I was passing the line near Feltham, and saw two men sawing a piece of timber, which I saw was Mr. Brassey's—I asked what they were sawing—the prisoner came up, put his shoulder under a piece which they had been sawing, and carried it away—I; saw the initials had been cut out of it—this is the piece which I prevented the men from sawing—I went to Mr. Biggs, took him to the saw-pit, and then went for the policeman—no sale of such materials as this had taken place by order of Mr. Brassey, to my knowledge—no one had any authority to take them away.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Is Mr. Brassey here? A. I have not seen him—I have not ascertained from him whether he has sold these articles—I do not know that he sells wood—there are no persons under him who have the sale of these things—he does not often sell these—these are called battens in the trade—I cannot see the initials of the name on this piece—they may have been sawn off or cut off—there are a cart load of other
pieces of wood here—this piece was found on the prisoner's premises, about 100 yards from the pit—it has the initials "T. B." on it—these other pieces were found there—I did not find them—the initials have been cut out—this piece has been used for a scaffolding-plank on the line—it would not be knocked to pieces when it was done with there, it would be taken to another bridge—if a piece were broken it would be sent to the yard—I do not know what would become of it then—I never knew Mr. Brassey, or anybody belonging to him, sell anything.
NORTH BIGGS . I am one of the agents for Mr. Brassey, on the line from Staines to Windsor. On 9th Nov. Mr. Knowles took me to a saw-pit—I saw this piece of timber on the pit, and two men were sawing it—I looked all round it—it is Mr. Brassey's property—while Mr. Knowles was gone for a policeman I watched the pit—a man told me something—I went to a shed and saw a man who had been sawing the timber, putting some pieces of timber through a hole in the roof, and the other man who had been sawing the timber, and the prisoner, were outside in the yard, close to the shed—I called to the young sawyer, and said they might keep on throwing out, for I was watching them—I found these four pieces, and several more in the shed—this one has the initials on it; they have been taken out of the others—I am quite positive that these are Mr. Brassey's.
GEORGE SAUNDERS (policeman, V 236). I was called by Mr. Knowles on 9th Nov.—I went to the pit, and saw this piece of wood—I saw the prisoner at his house—I asked him who the piece of timber belonged to on the saw-pit—he replied, "It belongs to me; have not they cut it?"—I asked him to come round to the back of the house—there were fifteen pieces of timber there—I asked him if he knew anything of them—he said, "No"—I pointed to the hole in the shed, and said they came out of there I thought—he said no, they never were on his premises—I asked him to come over to his shed, and then this piece, marked "T. B.," was found in my presence—he said he had bought some of Mr. Crawley.
Cross-examined. Q. Crawley was before the. Magistrate? A. Yes, he came voluntarily—the prisoner said there that he had them from Crawley—Crawley has run away.
THOMAS CATTANACH . I know this long piece of timber—I saw it on the railway side a few days before it was taken out of the prisoner's possession—Crawley was employed to watch the gates of the Company—he was not in the employ of Mr. Brassey—on 10th Nov. I went to examine some cottages of the prisoner's—I saw some pieces of Mr. Brassey's wood that were built into the wall—I considered I had no right to remove them—the prisoner keeps a beer-shop—he is a coal-merchant and a potato dealer, and several other things—his yard is about two hundred yards from the line—he is building the cottages about thirty yards from the line.
Cross-examined. Q. Are the accounts here? A. No—I know from the accounts and from the custom of the office if wood had been sold it would be in the account—if these had been sold I should have had directions from Mr. Brassey to sell them—it is his custom to transact all matters of sale throgh me—if he had sold these I should have known it—he has never sold Wood within my knowledge.
NOT GUILTY .
NOT GUILTY .
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Transported for Ten Years.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Months. (
Before Mr. Common Serjeant.
MESSRS. BODKIN and DAWSON conducted the Prosecution.
MARY ANN GEAXLEY . I live at the Blue Boar, Stratford. About half-past five o'clock, on 21st Oct., the two prisoners called for a pint of beer—Goodman paid me a shilling—I gave him 10d. change—I recollected him before, and kept the shilling in my hand—I showed it to my master, and from what he said I sent it back to Goodman by the pot-boy—he brought me; back a 4d. piece, and I gave 2d. change—the prisoners staid some time, and then left with the shilling—I and my master both looked at it, and said it was bad.
GEORGE TILLEY . I am pot-boy at the Blue Boar. Miss Geaxley gave me a shilling—I took it to the prisoners and told them it was bad—Norman gave me a 4d.-piece—I took it to Miss Geaxley, and she gave me 2d. change—when the prisoners left, my master told me to watch them—I. watched them about an hour walking together, and told the policeman to have an eye to them—I lost sight of them—this is the shilling I took back to the. prisoners.
Goodman. Q. How do you know it is the same? A. Because Miss Geaxley put it in the crack and bent it—I did cot mark it.
JOSEPH COWLAND . I am a victualler, of Stratford. On 21st Oct. Goodman came to my house for a glass of gin—he gave me a bad shilling—I bent it—from what I had heard I went to the door, and saw Norman outside—Goodman went out, and they joined—a policeman came, and I gave it to him I had kept it all the time in my hand.
Goodman. Q. When you said it was bad what did I say? A. You gave me a good one and left, without taking the change.
MARGARET SAIL . My husband is a butcher, at Stratford. On 21st Oct. Norman came to my house for some meat—she gave me a shilling—I said it was bad, bent it, and returned it to her—she gave me another, and went away.
George and had half-a-pint of beer—I went and stood alongside of him—he laid down this shilling, which was bent—the bar-maid gave him change, and put it in the till—I directed her attention to it, and a bad shilling was taken out, which was bent—this is it—I then went to Mr. Cowland's—he gave me this bad shilling—I then went after the prisoners, and took Goodman—he put something in his mouth and swallowed it—I got hold of his throat, but I could not stop him—I found on him 1 1/2 d., and on Norman 11 1/2 d. in copper, and 2s.
WILLIAM POTTON (police-sergeant, K 27). I took Norman—I saw Goodman put something in his mouth—I caught him by the collar and said he was swallowing something—after the charge was read to him at the station he said, "I gave a shilling to the landlord in one public-house, and I gave him a good one and I ran away because I would not be locked up"—I said, "Then you left the good shilling?"—he said, "Yes."
Goodman's Defence. The shillings I took while I was out selling mats; this woman knows nothing of it; I met her and asked her to have a drop of something to drink.
Norman's Defence. The two shillings that I had in my hand I gave to the policeman; one of these must have been the one the woman says was bad.
GOODMAN— GUILTY . Aged 26.
NORMAN— GUILTY . Aged 22.
Confined One Year .
WILLIAM STENT . I am a tobacconist, of High-street, Stratford—it is my dwelling-house—I went to bed about eleven o'clock on 21st Nov.—the house was then fast—about two in the morning the shutters were down and a pane of glass broken, and half a dozen gutta percha pipes had been taken.
JAMES CLARK (policeman, K 199). I was on duty at Stratford—I saw the prisoner about one o'clock with two prostitutes and a baker—he asked me to give him a light, which I did—he went on towards Stratford—at a quarter past two he came on my beat again—I watched him to Mr. Stent's shop, saw him take the bar off the shutters, and take the shutters down—he broke a pane of glass and took some pipes—I went as near to him as I could, but he got away—I found these pipes just inside the window.
Prisoner. I asked the officer for a light, and then I went home and went to bed.
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined One Year .
SPENCE pleaded GUILTY .—Aged 22.
HARTLEY pleaded GUILTY
SMITH pleaded GUILTY .—Aged 19.
Confined four Days, and Whipped
Wade. Another was with us? A. Yes.
WADE— GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Four Days and Whipped.
GUILTY .— Judgment Respited.
Before Mr. Recorder.
WILLIAM NICHOLLS . I am a hair-dresser, and live at 23, Greenwich-market—the prisoner was in my service for more than a month. On Sunday, 22nd Oct., I went into Devonshire, leaving him in charge of my place—I returned on the Thursday week following—I found the place shut up—I forced an entrance, and missed a pair of blankets, an apron, and some razors—I found that the prisoner had paid over to my sister the proceeds of the first week's takings, but no more—his wages were 16s. a week—I allowed him to deduct his wages from the takings—he had the blankets in use.
JAMES PAGET . I am a hair-dresser. On 3rd Nov. the prisoner brought me three razors to sell—he said I should have them at my own price—I gave him a shilling and a pot of porter for them—they are worth 1s. or 18d. each—I also bought this apron of him for 6d. next morning.
HENRY SNATCHELL . I live next door to Mr. Nicholls. On 2nd Nov. I saw the prisoner pass our shop with a large bundle under his arm, about the size of half-a-bushel—it "was as large as two blankets would be or a man's clothes—I cannot tell what it was—the outside was something white.
EDWARD SAMNS (policeman, B 182). I took the prisoner on 7th Nov. in North-street, Chelsea—I asked him if he had not been working at the other side of London—he said he had—I asked where—he said at Greenwich—I told him I must take him into custody—he went to the station, and there the inspector told him the-charge—he said he owned to making off with the money, but as to the razors or blankets he knew nothing about them—I made inquiries and got the razors and apron from Paget.
Prisoner's Defence. I had a little too much to drink; I was very ill; I left the shop and came up to London; I had Mews's razors in my pocket as he gave them to me, and being tipsy I certainly did sell them to Page for 1s. as for the other things I know nothing about them.
NOT GUILTY .
Before Lord Chief Justice Denman.
MESSRS. PAYNE and MLTCALFE conducted the Prosecution.
SARAH HILL . I am the prisoner's wife. On 18th Nov., about a quarter to eleven o'clock at night, I was standing at my mother's shop door talking to Mr. Hammond, who was outside—the prisoner came to the door—he was in the habit of coming and using very improper language towards me before the customers—he passed me, went ir, and passed out again, making use of a very improper expression, and wint up the street—about ten minutes or a quarter of an hour after, I was still at the door and looked up, and all of a sudden I saw him close to me with a knife in his hand, what they call a Spanish knife—this is it (produced)—he instantly stabbed me in the left side—
it cut a cape, which I have on, and caught against a stay-bone over my breast—it did not enter my person—he then took the knife and cut along my waist—it only cut the outside of my dress—I fell backwards on the floor with the first blow, and was on the floor when I received the second—one of the blows cut a small piece from my finger, and cut my hand—I think it was in warding off the first blow—I could not scream or speak—my mother was standing in the shop, but it was done so momentarily that she did not see he was in the shop—a lad outside sung out "He has got a knife, be has got a knife"—I was struggling to keep him from me—Mr. Hammond came and caught him by the back of the neck and held him till the policeman came—we have been married eleven years—he has frequently threatened me—about a month before this he came in and I said something to him about work, and he said, "Do not bother me; if you do I will cut your b----y heart out."
Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. You were not on good terms? A. No—we have lived separately through his selling the shop for 25l.—he said he had no home to take me to, and if my mother did not like to take me in he would bundle me out, and my goods—we separated simply because we had no place to go to—not through quarrelling—he has been in the habit for the last six months of coming to see me at my mother's—Mr. Hammond is a neighbour—he had been standing there about twenty minutes—I was talking to him, and my mother was serving—my husband looked very evil at me when he passed me first—there were no words at all between us, before he struck me—he had been drinking, but was not tipsy—he knew what he was about—he is a plumber by trade—this is not a knife he uses in his business—I never saw such a knife used by a plumber—I never saw it till that night—he does not work at my mother's—there had been no words between me and my husband about Mr. Hammond—my husband had repeatedly called me the worst names he could call any one—he did not at the time say, "That was in consequence of being rather too intimate with that man"—he would come to me and say, "Will you let me come back again," and I said no—I was willing to work, but not to be an incumbrance on my mother, if he had ever such a humble home I would come, but I would not allow him to come to that house—my mother had sworn her life against him two years ago.
MR. PAYNE.Q. Had you given him any provocation at all at this time? A. No.
WILLIAM HAMMOND . I keep a public-house, in Powis-street, Woolwich. I was at Mrs. Hill's mother's shop on this night, about half-past ten o'clock, standing at the door talking to Mrs. Hill—the prisoner came up, and used some expression towards her and left—about ten minutes after he returned witli a knife, and made three or four stabs at Mrs. Hill—I was not going to interfere till some one said, "He has a knife," and Mrs. Hill said she was being stabbed—I immediately seized him, the policeman came, and the knife was taken from him—it was then open.
Cross-examined. Q. How long had you been there? A. About a quarter of an hour—I was not there the morning before—I might have been two mornings before that—I sometimes go once a week, and sometimes not once a month—I was smoking a cigar at the time—I was outside, just at the door, and Mrs. Hill was inside—she did not say anything when her husband came up on either occasion till she cried out she was being stabbed—she did not ask him anything about money or goods—I did not interfere at first—I thought that it was no matter that called for interference on my part, not knowing he had a knife—I have known Mrs. Hill about two years as living in the neighbourhood—I should say the prisoner had been drinking—he was not drunk
JAMES GOSLING ,. On 18th Nov. I was at the door of my father's shop, three doors from Hill's—I saw the prisoner come up with a knife in his hand, and saw him strike Mrs. Hill with it in the chest—I instantly went to the shop, and saw Mr. Hammond trying to come out—I said the prisoner had got a knife, and Mr. Hammond then seized him by the throat—there were two blows given—Mrs. Hill was knocked down, and was on the floor when the second blow was struck.
EDWARD THOMAS HOPPER (policeman, R 316). I was standing near the shop, and saw the prisoner strike Mrs. Hill—I heard her call out, "I am stabbed"—I immediately crossed to her, and found Mr. Hammond had got hold of him—there was a knife in his hand with blood on the blade—as we were going to the station, I said to the prisoner, "You are a foolish man"—he said, "I (do not care for I meant to stab the b----y b----h"—he had been drinking, but was not drunk—he knew what he was about—I observed a cut in the breast of Mrs. Hill's dress, and another a little lower—the point of the knife was broken.
GUILTY of an Assault. Aged 32.— Confined Two Years , and to enter into his own recognizance in 100l., and find two sureties of 20l. each to keep the peace for two years more .
Before Edward Bullock, Esq.
GUILTY . Aged 45.— Confined Twelve Months.
(There were three other indictments against the prisoner.)
Before Mr. Common Serjeant.
M'CARTHY pleaded GUILTY . Aged 42.— Confined Two Years.
MESSRS. BODKIN and DAWSON conducted the Prosecution.
ELIZA PERRIAM . My husband keeps a beer-house at Lewisbam. On the 13th Oct. M'Carthy came, called for half-a-pint of beer, and paid me with a bad shilling—I bit it double, and told him it was bad—he said what was he to do, he had no more money—he took up the shilling, took it away, and went towards Lee—I saw the other three prisoners on the other side of the road—they went in the same direction.
JANE BEALE . My master keeps the Highlander beer-shop, at Lee. On 13th Oct. Roach came for half-a-pint of beer—he gave me a bad shilling—I bent it, took it up stairs, and gave it my master—he came down and said to Roach, "Do you know what you gave my girl?"—he said, "No"—he told him it was a bad shilling, and he left the house.
GEORGE BOOKER . I am the master of Beale. On 13th Oct. she came and gave me a bad shilling—I came down and asked Roach if he knew what he gave my girl—he saifi, "No"—I said it was a bad shilling, and asked if he had got anything more about him—he said, "No, so help him God, he had not"—I searched him, and found nothing on him—I kept the shilling, and followed him—he joined the other three—I followed them and called at the police-station—I saw Roach go into Mr. Morlcy's shop—the other three waited outside till he came out—I looked round for the officers to come on—I went into the shop and received a shilling from Susannah Morley—I marked it and gave it to the officer.
SUSANNAH MORLEY . My father is a baker, at Lee. On 13th Oct. Roach came and had 1d. worth of bread—he gave me a shilling—I put it into the drawer—there were two sixpences and a 4d.-piece there, but no shilling—I took it out in about two minutes, and gave it to Mr. Booker.
CHARLES WATSON . I am a baker, of Lee. About half-past eleven in the morning of 13th Oct. M'Carthy came for a penny loaf—he gave me a shilling—I said I thought it was bad—he said he had no more money—I ultimately gave him change, and he went away—I put it into my pocket, where I had no silver—the officer came in about an hour—I gave him the same shilling.
GEORGE SOLE (police-sergeant, R 41). I was at the station when Mr. Booker came—I and Hunt went out, saw three of the prisoners together and one a little behind—just as they came opposite me, Hyland gave something to M'Carthy—I jumped over the hedge, and found in M'Carthy's band a counterfeit shilling—I caught Regan, and found on him a penny loaf, two books, and some halfpence—I received these two shillings from Mr. Booker.
ROBERT HART (policeman, R 79), I took Hyland, and found on him 101 bad shillings, two 4d.-pieces, a sixpence, and 7d. in coppers—1l. 1s. was in one pocket, and 1l. in each of these four paper packages, and a small package of dirt—4l.-worth of these shillings are very bright, they had never been out of the packages—rubbing them with dirt would make them appear dull.
Hyland's Defence. I picked them up that morning in the road; I met these men, and gave them part of it.
ROACH— GUILTY . Aged 32.
REGAN— GUILTY . Aged 61.
HYLAND— GUILTY . Aged 50.
Confined Two Years.
GUILTY . Aged 48.— Confined Four Months.
GUILTY .— Confined Six Months.
178. JAMES MILLER , stealing 634 lbs. weight of lead, value 4l.; the goods of Joseph Batteibee, fixed to a building: also, 294 lbs. weight of lead, value 2l.; the goods of Joseph Batterbee, fixed to a building.
(No evidence was offered.)
NOT GUILTY .
Aged 22.— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY . Aged 62.— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Three Months.
Before Mr. Recorder.
NOT GUILTY .
BENJAMIN HARRISSOV I am a shell-fish dealer, and sell cigars and tobacco, at Wellington-terracc, Waterloo-road. These cigars were three feet inside, the window, which is open—a policeman spoke to me, and I missed two boxes of cigars, about half-past eleven o'clock at night, on 3rd Nov.—this is one box (produced)—it lias my private mark on it.
SAMIEL HARRISS (police-sergeant, L 6). I was on duty, and saw two men going from I Harrisson's window—I told him, and then went after them to Waterloo-bridge, and saw the prisoner coming up the steps, with his hands behind him—I asked what he had got—he said, "Nothing"—I found this, box of cigars in his left hand—he said he picked them up in the road—it was about twenty yards from the shop; and two or three minutes after I had spoken to Harrisson.
Prisoner. Q. Did you see me near the shop? A. I believe you to be one of the two I saw there—your back was towards me—you could have gone down the right hand steps and up the left.
Prisoners Defence. I found the box on the steps.
GUILTY . ** Aged 20.— Confined One Year .
MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.
JAMES LITTLE . I am a seaman, and was paid off at Sheerness on 7th Nov.—I received 27l. for about three years' service—I arrived at London-bridge about two o'clock, on 8th Nov., by steam-boat—I then had 19l. in gold and some silver in my pocket, in a green silk purse, with two bright steel rings on it—Vallance rowed me over to Tooley-street, and two of my shipmates—he took my bag to the Roacbuck, and went with them to the railway—he returned, and we had a pot of beer and half a pint of rum between us in the tap-room—I left my bag of clothes at the bar, and left the Roebuck—I had changed a sovereign at the bar to pay for the drink I had, and then had eighteen sovereigns left—I put the purse in my breast, between my two Ciurnsey shirts—I had engaged a bed at the Roebuck—I was not there more than an nour and a half—I went out with Vallancc—he wished me to go home with him—we went to the Horse and Cart public-house, in Tooley-street, and had some more beer—I walked with him to Parish-street—I parted with him in the street, and turned to go back to the Roebuck—I went into a shop in Tooley street and boughtt some bread and meat—John Collins and Conolly came up—Conully said, "Old follow, you shall not be lost; my mother keeps
beds, and you shall come along with me, and shall have a good bed, and shall not bo lost; you shall not be astray"—I went with them into a public-house in Tooley-street—we had the bread and meat, and I gave them plenty of beer, and some gin afterwards—I was going away—Conolly said, "You shall not go yet, I (or we) will stand a pot of beer"—a pot of half-and-half was called tor—it was placed on the table—one of them said to me, "Get up, old fellow, and drink hearty before we go"—I got up and took a hearty draught from the pot—neither of them drank any—in a little time Conolly said, "Come, drink, and let us go"—I took hold of the pot a second time, and saw that the beer was not like what I had seen, it was somewhat like milk, but I took another draught—I called a cab, and we all drove home to go to Conolly's mother's—I felt my money safe in the cab—I was driven to any place they thought proper—we got out of the cab, and I began to feel myself rather dead—we stopped at the Anti-Gallican, went in, and had some more beer—they helped me out of the cab, because I felt myself too far gone—one of them sat on each side of me; and while we sat there drinking some beer, it overcame me altogether, and I went to sleep—there was no one but those two drinking with me—we had nothing but beer there—en the following morning I found myself lying in a nasty, dirty, wet alley, my clothes unbuttoned, my pockets turned, my purse and everything gone—I had some loose money, as well as that in the purse, and a tobacco-box.
Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. What time did you get to the Roebuck? A. Between four and five o'clock in the afternoon—it was not much after six when I left—I was not very drunk while I was in the prisoners' company—I did not see the beer poured out which they told me to drink hearty of—it was brought in by some servant.
JURY. Q. Did either of the prisoners handle the pot before you drank? A. No—I do not know whether they had any opportunity of putting anything in—I did not see either of them go out to order it.
NORAH ARNETT . I am an unfortunate girl, and live in Unicorn-square, Southwark. On the night of 8th Nov., about eight o'clock, I went into the Anti-Gallican, and saw the four prisoners, and several others—I saw-Little and Campbell sitting, drinking, in the same box with the prisoners—they had a pot of half-and-half when I went in—it was full—they had emptied one—they called for another—Little pulled out a purse from inside his breast, and paid 6d.—he was a little the worse for liquor—he retained the purse in his hand—I did not see him return it to his breast—he took out some half-pence, and paid for the half-and-half—the prisoners all went out in a very few minutes—I knew them all, using the house—Campbell and Little remained, finishing the half-and-half—there were some more young men in the place, but not in the same box—Little called some of them to have some of the half-and-half—he was then the worse for liquor.
Cross-examined. Q. You did not see the purse leave his hand? A. No—lie-. at with his side to me—I am not mistaken in Conolly; I knew them all.
THOMAS VALLANCE . I am a waterman, of Pear-street, Horsleydown. On Sth Nov. I rowed Little from a steamboat at London-bridge over to the Tooley-street side—he inquired of me for a lodging—it was then a quarter-past two o'clock—he had two petty-officers belonging to a man-of-war with him—I took him to the railway—he waited at the foot of London-bridge, and I took him to the Roebuck—he paid me for my job, and stood a drop of something to drink—I offered to take him home to tea—we went down Today-street, to Belt's houie, and Lad two pots of half-and-half; then we
went to the King of Prussia; we had nothing there—lie declined to go home with me to tea, but said he would go back to where Ins bag was—I was to be there in the morning to take him to the railway—next morning I found him King at the Rucbuek, in a basket of cinders, almost dead—he never awoke till lour o'clock in the after noon—I could not beat any senses into him—he had only got me, that was in his right pocket.
ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL . I lodged at earns lodging-house, Vine-yard, Tooley-street. On 8th Nov., between six and stun o'clock, I saw Daniel Collins—he came our to me of Events miss, and and, Come and have a drop of beer"—I said I did not mind—we went to the Anti-Gallican, and saw Little, in a box in the tap-room, with Conolly on one side, and John Collins on the other—in a few minutes Daniel Collins went over to the box where Little was, sat down, and joined the rest—in a few minutes Ragan came in—he stood a listle at the side of the box, about ten minutes, and then sat down in the same box with them—Daniel Collins asked some of the parties in the room to drink—he did not ask me—I did not drink with them, only when I went in—I saw Arnett come in—Little was every much intoxicated—Daniel Collins lifted a pot off the table where he sat—John Collins put his hand into Little's left-hand pocket, took it out, put it into his breast, pulled it out shut, and slid he had got the skin—Ragan then said, "Come and have a drop of gin, boys"—the four prisoners walked out, and a man whom they call Conolly Collins—I was not in it, I only saw it done—I remained in the, tap-room a few minutes—Little got up, felt himself all over, said, "My money is all gone!" and rapped on the table—I went out, and saw no more—on the Friday I saw Daniel Collins with a new jacket and a new pair of shoes—I did not speak to him, he was not near me; but in the evening I asked him where he got them—he said he pot a sovereign from his father, and vent and bought them—I said, "You got something out of that lot that was one last night, I suppose?"—he denied it—I sau him receive two half-crowns rom a woman that night.
Cross-examined. Q. What time did you go into the Anti-Gallican? A. Between six and seven o'clock—I stayed about half an hour—I afterwards went home and went to bed—I came from home to the Anti-Gallican—I had only drunk one drop—a pot was handed to me by a party in the room when I went in—I am sure I did not go into this box at all—I saw Arnett standing at the table—that table was opposite to me—it goes right across the. room from the door—it was the same table—I sat opposite, and saw all about it—she was a considerable distance from them all the time, and I was further off than she was—I saw Little pull some money out of his left pocket to pay for liquor—I did not see him pull his purse out—that might be half an hour before the prisoners left—it was before I saw John Collins put his hand into his pocket—they left about a minute or so after that—Arnett did not go with them, she remained in the room when they went out—there was no one left in the room but me and Little—Arnett went out after them—I am a sailor—it is three months since I was at sea—I live close by the Anti-Gallican.
Conolly A man snatched 3d. out of your hand for a lark; you said, "If you do not give me that 3d. it will be the worse for you," and fetched in a policeman and had me taken. Witness. Nobody took any money from me—I gave information about this job, and of course the policeman took you—I did not offer to put 2d. to your 2d. for a pot of porter—I was never in your company that evening—Arnett's—husband had nothing to do with me that evening.
ELIZABATH BUCKMASTER . My husband keeps the Roebuck in Tooley-street—I remember Little and Vallance coming—they had drink—Little paid for it out of a green purse, rather bulky, which he kept in his breast pocket—he changed a sovereign—I did not see him leave.
JOSHUA GOLDEN (policrnian, M 87). On 8th Nov., between five and six o'clock, I was on duty in Tooley-street, and saw Vallance part with Little at the corner of Parish-street—Little went into a cheesemonger's shop—John Collins was standing opposite watching him—he saw me watching him, joined another man, and both went into the Anti-Gallican—I spoke to two of my sergeants, and while doing so saw Little leave the shop—I heard of the robbery that evening—on the Friday night Campbell gave me information, and I took John Collins.
Cross-examined. Q. In what state was Little?A. He had been drinking but was quite conscious of what he was doing—he walked quite erect—he bought some meat in the shop—the man who Collins joined was Ringrose, who is not in custody—other people were in the street, but I saw no one standing looking but Collins.
HENRY HUNT (policeman, M 82). On 12th Nov. I took Daniel Collins, in Tooley-street—I told him it was for being concerned with his brother, who was remanded—he said what his brother had done was nothing to do with him—in going to the station I said, "You have been buying some new clothes"—he said, "What new clothes?—I said, "A jacket and a pair of boots"—he said, "This jacket I have had three months, and can't a fellow afford to buy a pair of boots out of 1l. a week?"—it was not a new jacket, but different to what I had been in the habit of seeing him in—he asked where his brother was—I said I believed he was at Horsemonger-lane—he said, "I have not seen him this fortnight."
CATHERINE HOLT . I am the wife of William Holt, who keeps the Colonel Wardell, in Tooley-street. On 8th Nov., about twelve o'clock, as we were clearing the house Conolly came and got change of a sovereign from me—about twenty minutes before that, I found a drunken sailor by my door quite insensible—two constables had him—I took him into my house and gave him such lodgings as I could—it turned out to be Little—a policeman searched him—I saw nothing found but a few papers and a piece of whipcord—he went asleep on the form—he went away in the morning before I was down—he was so drunk I could make nothing of him.
JOHN WEBB . I keep a lodging-house in Pump-court, Vine-yard, opposite the Anti-Gallican. On 8th Nov., between ten and eleven o'clock at night, a sailor was brought to my place by John and Daniel Collins—his head was down—I could not see his features—he appeared very drunk, and I refused to take him in—next day I went with Daniel Collins to buy a pair of shoes—he paid 6s. 6d. for them, and bought a jacket for 4s. 6d.
John Collins. Q. Did not Campbell help to take the man away?A. Yes, he came with them and went away with them—I said that before the Magistrate.
MR. METCALFE to JOHN WEBB. Q. Did Campbell live in the house? A. Occasionally—Conolly lodged there—Campbell was away at the Anti-Gallican with them and came back with them.
of Conolly's conviction—I was present at his trial—he is the person mentioned in it—(read—Convicted Nov. 1843, and confined one month).
JOHN COLLINS— GUILTY . Aged 22.
DANIEL COLLINS— GUILTY . Aged 19.
CONOLLY— GUILTY . Aged 23.
RAGAN— GUILTY . Aged 23.
Transported for Ten Years.
CHARLES JAMES . I am a cheesemonger, of Lower Marsh, Lambeth—the prisoner was my servant eleven days—I received information, and put four marked shillings of George III. into the till, and marked two of Victoria, 1844, and gave them to Hill to spend at my shop, and one of Victoria, 1846, to Mary Ann Mackie to get 1s. worth of halfpence at my shop—I marked them in their presence, made a hole through the wall, and placed a constable behind, in view of the till—he told me something—the prisoner was standing at the doorway—it was his duty to mind the outside when the foreman was having bis meals—I found three marked shillings in the till, and sixpence not marked—I told the prisoner a gentleman in the parlour wanted to see him—he went in—Romainc said, "You have been robbing your master's till"—he said, "No"—Romanic asked if he had any money about him—he said, "Yes"—he asked where he got it—he said his mother sent it him from the country—Romaine said, "Where do you keep your money?"—he said, "In my pocket"—Romaine said, "Have you any more?"—he said, "No"—Romaine said, "He has two pieces of silver in his left boot"—he turned 2s. out of one boot, and a marked; shilling out of the other boot—I found another marked shilling with other silver in his pocket—these are the three shillings I marked (produced.)
Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. Have you any partner? A. No—. I was only away fifteen or sixteen minutes—I could not see into the shop when I came back I found three marked shillings in the till, and a bent 6d. not marked—there was one marked shilling beside—he was in the shop alone except the customers—Romaine asked him if he had any more about him—I swear that—he said, "Have you not got some money in your boot?"—the prisoner said, "No"—I believe I said that before the Magistrate—I did. not find a half-sovereign in the till.
Cross-examined. Q. What did it come to? A. Sixpence—he gave me sixpenny-worth of copper out of the till.
WILLIAM ROMAINE (policeman, L 38). I watched the prisoner through a hole in the wainscot, and saw him take his hand from the till twice, and put it to his boot—I found 18d. in one boot, and three marked George III. shillings in the other, and 8s. in his waistcoat-pocket, one a Victoria—he said it was money he had had sent up from the country from his parents.
Cross-examined. Q. How did you conceal yourself? A. I went through the next house—I was in private clothes—I asked the prisoner if he had any money about him—he said yes, some of it was sent up from his parents in the country—I accused him of robbing his master's till—he denied it—I told Mr. James, to convince him, I would show him where he had placed it—he
sat down on a chair—I took off his left boot, and found Isc?.—I searched him, and found the rest—there might have been half-a-dozen customers come in—I could not hear what they said. (The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 25.—Recommended to mercy— Confined three Months.
HENRIETTA CREER . I am the wife of William Creer—the prisoner was our servant—shortly after she came I missed a pair of clogs—she was set to find them—she said she could not—she was to leave on Saturday, and I insisted on her box being searched—I found in it a pair of clogs, a pocket, two books, a picture, an apron, and a curtain, my husbands property—at first she said she bought the clogs, but afterwards acknowledged they were mine, and she did not know how they had got into her box, unless it was with the clean clothes.
WILLIAM GUEST (policeman, L 62). I was present at the search—Mrs. Creer took the clogs out of the prisoner's box, and charged her with taking them—she said, "No, they are mine; I bought them"—Mrs. Creer said, "You know perfectly well they are mine"—she said, "Yes, I do not know how they got in, without they got in with the clean linen"—Mrs. Creer took a pocket out—she said she did not know how that came there—she opened the box herself, in my presence—it was locked—I searched two boxes, some things were found in each.
Prisoner's Defence. The books were lent me to read.
GUILTY .—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Two Months.
187. GEORGE LAWRENCE and CAROLINE LAWRENCE, stealing 32lbs. weight of steel, and other articles, value 15s.; the goods of Thomas Charles Matt and another, the masters of George Lawrence: and GEORGE COOK , for feloniously receiving the same; to which
GEORGE LAWRENCE pleaded GUILTY . Aged 46.— Confined Two Months.
MR. BRIARLY conducted the Prosecution.
GEORGE WILD (policeman, M 94). On 27th Nov., about seven o'clock at night, I was on duty in Suffolk-street, Borough—the female prisoner passed me with this bar of steel—her daughter was carrying this other bar—they each looked for some one—I followed them—just before they got to Southwark-bridge-road, I saw Cook walking a little in advance of them—he turned round, they walked up to him, and each gave him a bar of steel—I went up, and said, "What does this mean?"—Cook said, "This steel this woman gave me to make her husband some tools; I have made tools before for her"—I called the woman back, and said, "Where did you get this?"—she said, "I brought it from my husband, he sent it to Cook to make tools, as he has done before"—I said, "What is your husband's name?"—she said, "Jones, he is a smith"—I said, "Where does he live?"—she said, "No. 5, Queen's-gardens, Crosbierow"—I put the steel into a shop, and took all three to the station—I went to 5, Queen's-gardens next morning, searched Lawrence's house, and found these pieces of iron (produced)—I searched Cook's premises, and found some similar bars of steel, and 2cwt. or 3cwt. of tools made of steel—he is a tool-maker—they are stamped, and some of them have "George Cook" on them.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Was the steel lying on the forge? A. Behind it, and the tools were in a box, apparently ready for use—Mr.
Jnnes rents the shop and one forge—he has been there about three months—Cook bears an honest tractor.
COURT. Q. Where was it the womin handad the steel A. Two hundred yards after they had passed the turning which leads to Cook's forge—they were going in the direction of his mother's house—he might have come from there to his forge, but I saw him giong in the same direction as them, in. front of them—I did not see him come from the forge,—Cook made some objection to the woman giving the name of Jones, but I could not hear it—I heard Cook say, "What can I say for you?"
THOMAS CHARLES MATT . I am a coach-builder, of Saul-street, Borough, and have one partner. I received a communication, made a search, and missed more than 3cwt. of steel of this, kind and shape, worth 6l.—these bars and shackles are ours—I do not know the tools—George Lawrence was in our employ.
Cross-examined. Q. Was that steel made for you? A. No—I know it by the maker's private mark, and also by their being rusty on one side and clean on the other.
JAMES BURTON (policeman). On 27th Nov., at ten o'clock at night, I saw Lawrence on Holborn-hill, and said he must go back to Saul-street respecting the steel—he said, "It is a bad job, it cannot be helped, I hope my wife and child are not locked up; I took the steel"—on the way to the station he said it was through distress.
Cross-examined. Q. Did not he say he saw Cook, and told him he had some stuff which would make tools? A. Something of the sort.
(The prisoners received good characters.)
CAROLINE LAWRENCE and COOK— NOT GUILTY .
NOT GUILTY .
Before Lord Chief Justice Denman.
MESSRS CLERK and LAW conducted the Prosecution.
CALEB EDWARD POWELL . I am assistant-Solicitor to the Mint. I produce a copy of the record of the conviction of George Barnard at Gloucester in Oct., 1846—this I have examined with the original record in the office of the Clerk of the Peace, and it is a true copy.
ELIZABETH ROBINSON . My father is a shoemaker. One Friday night in Sept., about nine o'clock, I was in the street, and the prisoner spoke to me and said, "Little girl, will you go for an errand for me?"—I said, "Yes sir"—he said, "You go to the public-house and get me sixpenny-worth of gin, and make haste"—he gave me half a sovereign, wrapped up in a piece of paper—I tried it with my teeth, and it bent—I went to the Pilgrim, asked for the gin, and offered the halfsovereign in payment—it was refused—they gave it me back—I went to the place he had given it me at, and he was not there—I then went home, told my father, and gave it to him.
Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. Did you know the prisoner
before? A. No—my father's house was two or three minutes' walk off—the public-house he told me to go to was within sight, he pointed it out to me—I did not see him again till the policeman had him in custody—I am quite sure he is the man.
JOHN ROBINSON . I am the father of the last witness. On Friday night, 29th Sept., she gave me a half-sovereign—I gave it to the policeman—I went out with her and looked about the place, and went to where she tendered it.
EMMA SMITH . I am bar-maid to my father, who keeps the Pilgrim, in Kennington-lane. On Friday, 29th Sept., the little girl came for sixpenny-worth of gin, and gave me a bad half-sovereign, which I returned her—on 14th Oct. I saw the prisoner at our house with another man—he asked for a pint of sixpenny ale, and threw down a bad half-sovereign—I took it up, bent it, and told him it was a bad one—he said he had no more money, and the other man paid for the ale—I returned the half-sovereign to the prisoner—I had bitten it, and made an impression on it—this is it (produced)—it was shown me next morning.
Cross-examined. Q. What makes you know that to be the one? A. From the mark I made on it on the edge.
FREDERICK LEDGER . I am pot-man at the Pilgrim. On Saturday, 14th Oct., in consequence of what Miss Smith told me, I went to the bar, saw the prisoner there, and another man—as soon as I came into the bar they walked out—I followed, and never lost sight of them—the prisoner said if I followed them any further he would break my b—y leg, and he struck me with a stick, and I had a wrestle with him—I still followed—he wanted me to have a glass of ale and leave him—I would not—he was very insulting—he was taken in my presence.
GUILTY . Aged 33.— Transported for Ten Years.
Before Mr. Justice Coltman.
MR. METCALFE conducted the Prosecution.
GEORGE THOMAS WALLINGTON . I am a labourer, at Moss's-alley, St. Saviour's. On the night of 13th Nov., about twelve o'clock, I was returning home along Bankside with my wife, her sister, Mrs. Dooling, and her husband—I passed the prisoner, who I know by sight, by working in the same neighbourhood—he was standing on the pavement, near Bailey and Pegg's ironwharf—I crossed the road to make water, and Dooling crossed also—I left Dooling there and walked on—I heard some words between him and the prisoner, but could not hear what they were—I called out to Dooling to follow me, which he instantly did—I heard Dooling say to him that if he made use of such language as that to him again, for twopence he would fetch him a thump ov er the head—the prisoner passed by Dooling and came up to me,
and said, "Westminster" that is a nickname I go by, "did you suppose I was going to do that man any harm?" said, "No, I do not suppose you was; I know he would not do you any harm, for he is too quiet a man; we are going home civil, do you do the same"—he then said, "B—y Westminster, I know yon, take that," and stuck a knife into me—he left it sticking in my side, and attempted to run away—I stepped forward, caught hold of his collar, and held him till Dooling came up—he was niven into custody to a policeman—I took the knife out of my side and gave it to Dooling—the wound was on the seventh rib—it bled all the way to the station—the knife went through a white duck frock, a blue Guernsey frock, and my shirt—Mr. Odglincr, the surgeon, has attended me ever since—I have suffered greatly from the wound, and have not been able to earn a penny since.
Cross-examined by MR. KCNEVLY. Q. And so you thought you would get your expenses and make some money by this? A. No, I had no such thought—I was out in the air the day after I got this wound, and have been out a little daily since—I did not drink anything for the first fortnight, except a little spruce, and have only had a little beer this week—I had no quarrel with the prisoner that night—the assault was entirely unprovoked on my pait—the woman who was with me was my wife—she is not a prostitute—Dooling was not inclined to quarrel with the prisoner—I never knew him quarrel gvith any one—I did not hear him say to the prisoner if he said another word he would knock him down—I have been in several rows in my time, but not of my own making—I am not a fighting man—I never belonged to the prize ring—I went down to see a fight at Croydon some time ago—I was not engaged in it—we had hod five pots of beer on this night, between seven of us—the prisoner did not appear drunk—I did not give the prisoner a dreadful blow on the face—I did not hear the Magistrate ask the prisoner who gave it him—I did not see any mark—the prisoner said lie had had a hit on the nose with something, but he did not say I gave it him—I believe he has a mark on the nose, which he got in a row with his brother twelve months ago—I swear neither I or Dooling lifted a hand to him—my hands were in my pocket when he stabbed me—Doolincr and I lodge in the same house—I have not said that all I wanted was to get my expenses, and I had no enmity to the prisoner—I did tell the prisoner's friends it would be better for me to be at work instead of bciny laid up through his brutality—I did not say that all I wanted was to bind him down to keep the peace, and to have some remuneration.
ARTHUR DOOLING . I was passing along Bankside on the night in question with the prosecutor and our wives—I saw the prisoner; I stayed behind, when Wallington went on—the prisoner and I stood three or four yards from each otlier, making water—he used some disgusting language to me which is not fit to mention, and I said for twopence I would give him a thump on the head—that was all that passed—Wallington called out to me to come on, and not have any row with him, and I went on—the prisoner followed and passed me—lie went up to Wallington, made a blow at his right side, and said, "B—Westminster, I know you; take that!"—I was about ten yards off—the prisoner attempted to run away—Wallington caught him—I went up and he gave me the knife—I took it to the station, and there saw it was bloody.
Crooss-examined. Q You and Wallington were very quiet that night, I suppose A. Yes, and sober—we had only had a very small drop to drink—about six pots among seven of us—I never had any words with the prisoner before—he did not speak to Wallington till he got up to him—I did
not see Wallington strike the prisoner a dreadful blow on the nose—I did not strike him, and I believe no one else did—I saw a little bit of a scab on his nose before the Magistrate, as big as a pin's point—it was not a fresh wound—the Magistrate asked him where he got his nose damaged—he did not say that I or my friend did it—I do not know what he said—I lodge in the same house as Wallington, in Lad's-court, Moss's-alley—the woman who was with me is not my wife—she is not Wellington's wife's sister—we have not talked about this matter at all since—the prisoner was not very drunk—he had had something to drink, but knew what he was about.
Cross-examined. Q. The prisoner was rather drunk, was he not? A. Rather—I saw no cut on his face—he never named it to me—he did to the Magistrate, and said they had assaulted him—it was a slight scar—it was a fresh mark, not black, only the skin a little moved—Wallington and Dooling were both sober.
GEORGE ODLING . I am a surgeon. I saw Wallington at the station—I found a wound on his left side on the seventh rib, not quite an inch long—it might have penetrated the rib—this knife would produce such a wound—it must have been inflicted with considerable violence.
Cross-examined. Q. You did not probe it? A. No—the skin was cut. (The prisoner received a good character).
GUILTY of an Assault. Aged 24.— Confined Two Years.
191. WILLIAM SALE , stealing 1 pair of reins, value 6s. the goods of William Minter; 1 whip, 1 pair of shoes, 2 coats, and other articles, 11s.; the goods of William Hopkins: having been before convicted.
WILLIAM MINTER . I live at Broad-wall, Stamford-street, Blackfriars-road, and occupy a stable in Prince's Mews—this pair of reins (produced) are mine—in consequence of information I went to the police-station, and afterwards to my stable, and missed the reins, and another pair that have not been found—they were safe the night before—I found the prisoner and the reins at the station.
WILLIAM HOPKINS . I occupy a stable next to Minter. On Saturday night, between seven and eight o'clock, I put two coats, a smock frock, a pair of shoes, a whip, and a pair of reins into the stable—I missed them nest morning, and found them at the police-station—these are them (produced)—I found the prisoner in custody with the smock-frock, and jacket on.
JAMES DRAPER (policeman, L 70). Between twelve and one o'clock on Sunday morning, 19th Nov., I saw the prisoner in Prince's Mews, about a dozen yards from Hopkins' stable—I asked what he had got—he said a pair of reins, and a whip which were his own—that he had been dismissed from Mr. Pickford's service, and there they found their own reins—he had this coat and smock-frock on—I took him to the station, and found on him a pair of scissors, shoes, and compasses which Hopkins claims.
Prisoner's Defence. I bought them for half-a-crown; I carried them openly. (The prisoner's father gave him a good character).
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years.
JOHN DEVALL . I am carman to James Lys Seager—he has three parttners—they are distillers—on Thursday, Nov. 9th. between five and six o'clock, I was in the cellar of the Duke's Head, in Mint-street—my van stood at the door—I came back to it, and missed this metal crane (produced)—it is to draw the pin off, and is Seager and Co.'s property.
JAMES BURTON (policeman, M 272). In consequence of information, on 9th Nov., between five and six o'clock, I went to some ruins in Mint-square, about 200 yards from the Duke's Head—I heard a noise as of something breaking—I got through the pailing, and saw the prisoner who I knew before, and another, run away—I followed them through the courts into the Mint, and there lost sight of them—I went back, and found this crane in the broken state it now is—I told another constable, and he took the prisoner.
Prisoner. I was hard at work at the time, you knew where I lived? Witness. I did not—I did not see you afterwards, till you were taken.
JOHN DELANY (policeman, M 100). I received information, and took the prisoner on the 20th—I said I wanted him on suspicion of stealing a pipe from a wagon, the property of Seagcr and Co., in Mint-street—he said he knew nothing about it, he was at work at the time.
Prisoner. Q. You knew where I lived? A. I did not, you change your residence so often—I searched your old house, and all the places about, and could not find you.
Prisoner's Defence. I was at work till half-past seven o'clock.
GUILTY . Aged 33.— Transported for Seven Years.
193. JAMES REID , stealing 7 yards of printed cotton, value 5s.: also, 12 yards of silk, 30s.; the goods of Thomas Weir, his master: also, embezzling 3s., 17s., and 2l. 2s. 6d.; the moneys of Thomas Weir, his master: to which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined Eighteen Months.
ALFERD SPICE (policeman, V 47). On 21st Nov., about twenty minutes past seven o'clock, I stopped the prisoner near the Swan at Stockwell, carryin something heavy, I asked what he had got, he said some lead—I asked where he got it—he said he found it on Clapham-common—I said he must go to the station—I took it from him, and one piece from his trowsers, and another from his jacket at the station—it weighed 13lbs.—on 23rd I received information, took it to Mr. Thornton's, Clapham-common, and compared it with two pieces on the fowl-house—it corresponded, and had been recently cut—I found two knives in his pocket with a lead mark on the edge of one.
ISAAC ABBOTT . I am gardener to Henry Sykes Thornton. On 22nd Nov., between eight and nine o'clock, I found some lead had been stripped off the fowl-house—it was safe the day before—I saw the constable compare it—it fitted exactly.
Prisoner's Defence. I found it on Clapham-common.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY Recommended to mercy.— Confined Six Months.
GEORGE DUNCAN . I am a confectioner, in partnership with John Boyd—the prisoner was in our employ, in the engine-house, adjoining the counting-house, from which I missed about 30lbs. of almonds—these produced are of the same sort—the prisoner had no authority to take them—I did not give him any.
Cross-examined by MR. LILLEY. Q. Was not the counting-house locked? A. Yes—I will not swear these almonds are the same that I lost—I had not seen them for two or three days before I missed them.
Cross-examined. Q. Are you the son of one of the partners? A. Yes—I have no particular employment there—the prisoner has been there two or three months—I have not driven the engine since he has been there—I did before he came—I was not intimate with him—I once made him a present of a pipe—I never gave him any almonds—I will not swear they are the same sort—I fetched a witness, named Harris, before the Magistrate—I said nothing to him about what he was to say.
THOMAS WRIGHT . I am in Mr. Duncan's service. I had only been there a week when the prisoner asked me to hold some almonds under my coat till he got out—he gave me a bag—when I got outside, I gave them to him—he put them under his smock, and a constable took him—he said Sam gave them to him, meaning Boyd.
GEORGE WILD (policeman M 94). On 10th Nov., about seven o'clock, I was in Great Guildford-street, in plain elothes, and saw the prisoner and another about 200 yards from Mr. Duncan's—he put his hand into the top part of his smock—I said, "What have you got there?"—he said, "What odds is that to you? what I have got is my own"—I said, "I do not think it is"—he was working his fingers into the hole, and the almonds were running out of the bag—I said, "Where do you work?"—he said, "At Mr. Duncan's; what I have got, his boy Sam gave me"—I said, "Who is Sam?"—he said, "You come with me, I will show you where I got them"—I took him to the shop—Mrs. Duncan said they were stolen, she did not believe the partner's son gave them to him—the prisoner said he did—Mr. Duncan came—he begged not be locked up, and said it was his first offence—I took him to the station.
MR. LILLEY called
SUSAN GILLARD . The prisoner is my brother. I was at the gate of the premises with my father, and saw Samuel Boyd and the prisoner walking outside the gate—Boyd passed some nuts (I believe they were almonds) to my brother—I saw the kernel not the shell—I was not close enough to see whether they were almonds—they were not in a bag, but in his hand—I swear they were almonds—they were not sugared.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
NOT GUILTY .
MR. MELLER conducted the Prosecution.
FRANCIS GANGE . I am a colour-manufacturer, of 4, Charles-street, Lambeth—I have a partner. On 19th Sept. the prisoner called on me, and wished to be shown some samples of colours—I showed him some, and gave him the price for cash—he said, "I am in a very extensive way of business; I want them to reduce to artists' colours; I am an artists' colour-maker; I
supply Winsor and Newton, Barnards, and Newman; and if you can give me credit for a week or fourteen days, you will find it perfectly right, and I shall be induced, if 1 find the things suit my purpose, to give you an order to a much larger amount; but, at the same time, I shall require a little longer credit"—I let him have credit for fourteen days, but called in the neighbourhood first, and found he had not lived there very long—he had given me a reference, "John Turner, 40, Bromley-street, Commercial-road, East," and said he would satisfy me as to his respectability—I went there, and found a person of that name—on 26th Sept. I called, and found the house shut up—it was besieged with creditors—I went to Bromley-street, and could not find Turner—I was to call again next day—on 1st Nov. I found the prisoner at 58, Brick-lane—he said, "My name is not Baker, my name is Charles Watson; I do not know that I ever saw you before; I have a twin brother, who is so much like me, nobody knows the difference; and you must be careful what you say, or I will make you pay dearly for it"—I said I was certain he was the man—when he saw I was determined, he said, "The whole of it is, I have no money; but if you can take a bill for a month, you may depend on it I will honour it"—I gave him in charge—if I had known he was not an artists' colourman, and did not deal with Barnards', I should not have let him have the goods.
DAVID FRANCIS . I am house-agent to Mr. Beaumont, landlord, of 1, Earnest-street West, Beaumont-square. The prisoner took that house about the middle of June—he said he was a draper in the neighbourhood; he wanted the house as a depository for drapery goods—he mentioned no other business—I found on 26th Sept. that he had left without notice.
Prisoner. I said my brother was a draper, not that I was. Witness. I am certain of it.
Prisoner. Q. I said Barnards' supplied me; did not I buy some goods there about three months ago? A. Yes, 15l. worth—you represented yourself as an artist and drawing-master, and referred us to a Air. Turner—we never got paid.
JOHN JENKINSON (policeman, G 53). I took the prisoner on 1st Nov.—I searched the house, 58, Brick-lane, which a woman, who said she was his wife, said was his—I found this invoice of Mr. Gange's goods in a pocket-book.
MR. GASGE re-examined. I am certain the prisoner said Barnards' supplied him.
(The prisoner, in a long defence, admitted that he had the colours, but that, having disposed of them, and being defrauded of the money, he teas not able to pay for them.)
GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined Nine. Months.
(There was another indictment against the-prisoner, on which no evidence was offered.)
MR. PARRY conducted the Prosecution.
THOMAS SMALLARD RICHARDS . I keep the Russian Tea Establishment, Bishopsgate-strect On 19th Sept. Jacobs came, and said he was going to open a shop at Welling on the next Saturday, and wanted some tea sent down on the Friday or Saturday; that he was going to be married; that his
wife's relations would take the principal part of it; and inquired ray terms—I said the terms were cash—he said he had tea and grocery to buy with his ready cash; and, if it was not convenient to find the cash, would a reference do, if it was respectable—after some time, I agreed that it would—he gave me the name of Charles Downing, of 23, Robert-street, Blackfriars-road—I wrote there, and received this letter (produced)—I thought it satisfactory, and sent the goods by the carrier, to be given to a man named Clarke, at the Spur Inn, in the Borough—he had promised to call on me on the Friday week—he did not call; and about 29th Sept. I went to 23, Robert-street—there was "Charles Downing, jeweller," on a brass plate—I knocked at the door for half an hour, but could not get in—I found that Downing had run away—I saw him at the police-court about the 20th Oct., and afterwards gave him in charge at his house, Princes-street, Lambeth—I have never received any money.
WILLIAM BECKETT . I am Mr. Richards's shopman. I packd up the tea, and sent it—on 24th Sept. I—went with a constable to 1, Chester-street, Kennington-lane, and inquired for Mr. Jacobs—we found Jacobs there—he was the same man I had seen at the shop—I asked if his name was Ambrose Jacobs—he hesitated some time, and said, "No, my name is Edward Jones"—I gave him in charge—he afterwards acknowledged that his name was Ambrose Edward Jacobs—we searched his boxes, and found some bills which we had printed for him, appointing him an agent, and some lead which the tea had been wrapped in.
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. Did you get the bills printed expressly? A. Yes; when we appoint agents in the country we send these bills.
WILLIAM CLARK . I am a carrier to Dartford. I took a package addressed, "Mr. Jacobs, Welling"—Jacobs came to me at the Spur Inn, and asked if I had a chest—I said, "Yes; where is it to be left?"—he said, "At the shop next to Waghorne's, the baker's"—I left it there—he took it in—he had got down before me.
JOHN LINDLEY . I am a house-agent, of Derby-street, Argyle-square—23, Robert-street is Mr. Cubitt's property—Downing took it of me—I saw him write, and believe this letter to be his writing (read—"I beg to say that I have known Ambrose Jacobs many years through having dealings with his father, and consider him a most respectable and business-like young man. Yours respectfully,—CHAS. DOWNING. ")
HENRY BARRY (policeman, M 455). On 20th Oct. I took Downing in Princes-street—I said it was for being concerned with Jacobs in swindling Mr. Richards of some tea—he said he did not know Jacobs—it must be a mistake.
JOHN BAKER (policeman). I went with Beckett to Chester-street, Kennington-road, and took Jacobs—he said he knew a person named Downing who lived somewhere near Bedford-row, but he did not know the street or place—I said Downing was in custody—he said he was not aware of it—I searched and found these bills.
GEORGE REEVES . I am a builder, of Welling—I let the prisoners house there about the latter end of May—he occupied it for two months—the shop was always closed—I never saw the inside till the landlord gained possession—there was no stock or anything there—there was a written bill on the shutters saying it would be open at prices unknown in the locality—I have seen
him go at eleven o'clock at night and leave at five in the morning—he was seldom or never there in the day.
Jacobs' Defence. I never had the tea, and never was in Mr. Richards's house; when I was first examined Mr. Richards swore I was not the man; he said 1 was, at the second examination.
MR. RICHARDS re-examined. I did express a doubt, at first because he was so dirty, and he came to me—with his arm in a sling.
JACOBS— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Six Months.
DOWNING— NOT GUILTY .
GUILTY .— Confined Twelve Months.
GUILTY .— Confined Eight Months.
200. WILLIAM CUTHBERT was indicted for stealing 3 pairs of trowsers and other goods, value 30s.; the property of Horatio Nelson Clark; also 1 jacket and other goods, value 30s.; the property of Robert Brown: to both which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Nine Months.
GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Six Months.
202. MARY WILLIAMS was indicted for stealing 1 purse, value 4d., 4 sovereigns, and 3 shillings; the property of Jemima Smith: and JAMES GILHAM for feloniously receiving 1 purse and 1 sovereign, part of the same.
WILLIAMS pleaded GUILTY . Aged 40.
GILHAM pleaded GUILTY . Aged 48. Confined nine Months.
MR. BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN WILLIAM MESSENGER . I carry on business in the Borough-market and in Rochester-street. The prisoners were in my service and my father's for many years—John Green was the foreman of my place at Rochester-street, and David had to take a cart round to the butchers to bring in fat which was to be melted—on the morning of the 14th Nov. I made arrangements as if I were going out of tovvn, and placed myself in a loft which commanded a view of my premises—I saw Joseph hold a sack open and a man named Puibrook filled it—it was then taken in the yard, but before it was taken they asked David Green if he was ready—(he was at that time harnessing his horse to go out)—Puibrook then carried out the sack towards the cart—I did not sec him put it in, but I saw the cart come out with the sack in it, and David Green was driving it—I came down and stopped it—David
said he knew nothing about it—I took him and the cart to the station—Joseph was taken in about an hour afterwards—Pulbrook ran away, and I have not seen him since—the sack contained rather more than a hundred weight of fat—it was removed from the boiling-house—it was David Green's business to go out with his cart empty to fetch in goods, but not to take anything out—this fat was in a state in which it never goes from my premises.
JAMES FOSTER (police-sergeant, M 1). I took Joseph Green—he asked if I wanted him—I said "Yes"—he said, in going along, that it was a bad job—I heard the prisoners examined—what they said was taken down in writing—this is Mr. Cottingham's signature to it (read—"Both the prisoners say, 'It is our first offence, and we hope for mercy.'"
David Green. I beg for mercy; I saw nothing of the transaction till I got out of the yard; I was asked if I was all ready; I said, "Yes;" I got ready and drew out; as soon as I got out, my master came and jumped in the cart, and said, "What is that?" I said I did not know; he ordered me to drive to the station.
(The prisoners received good characters.)
DAVID GREEN— GUILTY . Aged 45.
JOSEPH GREEN— GUILTY . Aged 43.
Recommended to mercy by the Jury— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 28.— Confined Twelve Months.
GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined Twelve Months.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant.
NOT GUILTY .
SAMUEL WRIGHT (policeman, P 172). About seven o'clock in the evening on 13th Oct. I saw the two prisoners and another person walking together in the Walworth-road—Haine went into Mr. Parsons's, and the other two remained on the opposite side of the street—Haine came out, went across and conversed with them, and they all went down the road, looking into various shops—both prisoners went into a shop in Crown-street—I took the other person, who was discharged.
RICHARD HAMBROOK (policeman, P 109). I saw the prisoner and another person in Mr. Bolsom's shop—before they went in, I saw them all under a lamp, and Roberts took something out of his pocket and gave it to Haine—I went in after my brother officer, and took the prisoners—I found nothing on them.
RICHARD DAVIS (policeman. P 55). I followed the prisoners—I saw them go into Bolsom's shop—Haine dropped a 4d.-piece in the shop—I took it up, and found it was bad—I took Roberts down to the station—I found on him nine 4d.-pieces in this paper, in his left-hand waistcoat pocket—I found on him one loose—W.-piece and 9 1/2 d. good money—he said, "You have got me to rights at last."
Roberts' Defence. I picked up the paper containing the 4d.-pieces—I did not know whether they were good or bad—I gave Haine one—he went into the shop, and they said it was bad—I put it into my pocket, and in coming home I went into the shop for half an ounce of tobacco, and the officers came in and took us.
ROBERTS— GUILTY . Aged 19.
HAINE— GUILTY . Aged 22.
Confined One Year .
208. GEORGE GROVE , stealing 1 tea-pot and stand, and other articles, value 32l. the goods of Samuel Bendry Brooke: also, 18 spoons and other articles, value 24l. 15s.; the goods of Harriet Kemple, his mistress, in her dwelling-house; to both which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined One Year .
MESSRS. CLARKSON and BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.
RICHARD LATIMER . I am clerk to Sir Henry Meux and another. A man named Abell was a carman in their employ—it was his duty to take out beer occasionally, and to take delivery-notes with it. On 9th Sept. I gave him two delivery-notes—he was to deliver the goods to which they applied—I saw the dray when it was going out, and I observed, that in addition to the beer it was his duty to take, he had a kilderkin—I mentioned it to Mr. Jenkins.
JAMES WILKINS . I am now in the employ of Sir Henry Meux and Co. On 9th Sept., before I went into their service, I was standing outside the gateway I saw Abell come out of the brewery with a loaded dray—he asked me to go and drink with him, which I did—he then asked me to walk with him, and we went to the Three Cranes-wharf, Upper Thames-street—, there was then on the dray five full barrels, two full kilderkins, and one empty one—we left at the wharf five full barrels, and the empty kilderkin—we then went to Mr. Todd's house, just off the wharf, and left one full kilderkin there—we had then one full kilderkin on the dray—we then went to Toolev-street, and then Abell said he hardlv knew where it was to go—he said Charles Fair told him it was just underneath the railway—we succeeded in finding Digges's house—Digges was standing in front of the door, looking into the street—Abell said, "I have brought you a kilderkin of stout"—Digges said, "That is right, my boys, bring it in"—he went into the house, and I lent Abell a hand to get it off the dray—he rolled it in—I opened the door—Digges at first said he would have the empty casks moved out of the corner—he then said, "Never mind, it won't be in the way, pitch it up there"—Abell pitched it up on its head in the corner, about two or three steps from the bar—Digges said, "What will you have to drink, my boys, ale, pale ale, or stout?"—Abell said he would have stout; and Digges drew a pint of stout, and gave us two glasses to drink out of—while Abell and I were drinking the stout, Mr. Berridge and the policeman came in—Mr. Berridge asked Abell what business he had there—he said he had brought some beer there—he asked him where the delivery-notes were—Abell produced some papers—Mr. Berridge looked at them, and said they were not sufficient notes—Abell then said he had forgotten them—Mr. Berridge told the policeman to take us two into custody, and he said he should give Mr. Digges into custody for receiving it—Digges said he would follow down to the station—the officer took Abell and me there—Digges did not coinc—I did not notice an) body at Digges's bar but Abell
and him, till alter we were given into custody—I then noticed there was a man there, just inside the door, on the right-hand side—he was not there when we went into the bar—Digges's wife was inside.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Will you undertake to swear that there was not a person at the bar? A. I will not be positive—I did not see him till after I was given into custody—he was standing in front of the bar—I remained in custody three days—I have not given evidence before now—I was not charged—Digges did not ask for the delivery-note—I have been employed in delivering beer—we get a drop of beer if they like to give it us—I had been to Digges's once before, a week before, with Joseph Wilkins—I did not know before that Digges was a customer of my master's—the barrel that I and Wilkins took we rolled down the court where Digges's cellar is—I believe his house is the sign of the Sword and Buckler.
MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Was it ale you delivered before? A. No, a barrel of porter—Wilkins had the delivery-order, and he gave it to Digges—on the last occasion Digges did not ask for any.
CUTHBERT POTTS . I am a cooper, in the employ of Meux and Co. On 9th Sept. I saw Abell going out with a load—he had five barrels, an empty kilderkin, and two full oues, on his dray—one kilderkin was double stout, and the other single—a kilderkin of double stout would be worth about 26s. 6d.
HENRY JENKINS . I am a clerk to Messrs. Meux. I saw Abell, with his dray loaded, on 9th Sept.—I attempted to follow the dray, but missed it—Abell had no right to take any beer without a delivery-order, which was to be given to the publican, and a portion of it signed and brought back.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you search Digges's house? A. Yes—I tasted the beer there—I found it was all odds and ends, a mixture—I could not make anything of it—I think Digges had dealt with us from 1842—he had had a kilderkin of beer on 5th Sept., and a barrel oa the 2nd—he has not had beer since 1844 without paying for it beforehand—I believe there were only three exceptions to that rule, which were by the clerk's neglect.
COURT. Q. Was there any order for this kilderkin on that day? A. No—the order-book is here—I was keeping it at that time—no order would be executed except what appeared on the book—Digges has not had a kilderkin of double stout for some years—I recollect that, apart from any books—we have in our knowledge the houses we send stout to, and that was not a house that had stout—the prisoner's credit stopped before 1844—he was in debt to the firm.
WILLIAM ENSOR THORMAN . I am clerk to Todd and Co. On the 9th Sept. Abell came with another man to our wharf—he delivered five barrels of beer, and one kilderkin of stout—these are the delivery-notes with my figures on them.
RICHARD BERRIDGE . I am a clerk to Messrs. Meux and Co. On 9th Sept. I saw Abell leave the wharf with a kilderkin in his dray—I followed him over London-bridge to a beer-house in Bermondsey-street, kept by Digges—he trotted the horse up to the-door, and removed the kilderkin from the dray into the house—I found a policeman, and took him to the house—I saw Abell and Wilkins drinking before the bar, and Digges standing at the back of it, and his wife, and no other person that I saw—I asked Abell what business he had there—he said, "To deliver some beer"—I said, "By whose instructions?"—he said, "By Charles Farr's"—I asked him for the delivery-notes—he produced the notes of the beer that had been delivered at the wharf—I told him those were not the proper notes—I gave the two men
and Digges into custody—Digges then said the men asked him to let them leave the beer there till they returned—I asked him how the beer earne to be in his cellar—he said it was not in his cellar, it was there, pointing to where it was, by the bide of the bar, with a mat over it—Diggesasked the policeman to be permitted to follow to the station, and to my surprise the policeman consented—he did not follow—we returned back to the house with a cab to seek him—we found his wife, who told us he had left.
Cross-examined. Q. Do you know there is a place called The Old Sword and Buckler in that street.? A. Yes—I saw the kilderkin when it was pointed out—it was on the left-hand side, in front of the bar.
MR. PARRY called
JOHN JOHNSON . I live in New-street, Horsleydown, and am a horse-dealer. I remember when Abell and Wilkins were given into custody at Digges's house—I was before the bar, taking a glass of ale—I went before the Judge at Chambers, and made an affidavit there—Mr. Justice Pattison held the prisoners to bail in two 20l. sureties—I was in the beer-shop a minute or two before the two men came in—during that time Mr. Digges was standing against the bar—I do not remember whether his wife was there or not—when the men came in, they rolled a cask in at the front door, and pitched it up on its head. it the side of the bar—one of them said they had brought a kilderkin or a cask for him—Mr. Digges seemed surprised—he made answer, "I think you must be mistaken; where is the paper" or "ticket;" I will not be sure which he said—I did not pay attention to what the men said—I finished my glass of ale and went out about my business—I was not in the house when the men were taken into custody, I was walking in the neighbourhood—in the time of my going out of the house, in came the policeman, and some gentleman with him—I have known nothing of Digges but by going in there, and having a pint of beer—to the best of my knowledge he has been there about six or seven years—I live with my mother and father.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTISE. Q. What is your father and mother? A. They keep a marine-store shop—I have no stable—I have no license; if a gentleman asks me to look at a horse I look at it, and he gives me what he thinks proper—I have been at horse-dealing from a child—when these men came in, they said they had brought a kilderkin, or a cask—I will not swear that the expression was not "Digges, I have brought you a kilderkin"—I do not know where Digges's wife was; I did not see her; I know her; I hare not been talking to her since—I have been in there to have a glass of ale—I did not see her when I went in that day—I think she was there when I came out—I went out just as the policeman went in—I went back afterwards, and had a pint of beer with my aunt, who lives next door to Digges—she is in the general line—the beer came from the tap of Mr. Digges—ruy cousin fetched it—they told me something, and I went into Mr. Digges's house—I saw Mrs. Digges—I did not see Mr. Digges—I did not hear he was gone away; I did not hear he was going to run away—I do not know how long that was alter the policeman had turned his back—I was at my aunt's five or ten minutes—I did not see Mr. Dirges for six or seven weeks afterwards—I had frequently been at my aunt's in the meantime—I have been to Digges's sometimes to have a glass of porter—I heard Mr. Digges was away—I understood he was going to in hardland—I never saw any bands in Diggess or any removed
I am no relation of his—I have never seen any barrels on my aunt's premises—I bought a horse last Friday for a man of the name of Seager, in White's-ground—I bought it of a stranger, in Smithfield-market—I had half-a-crown for that job—I bought a horse on the Friday before—I gave 5l. 12s. 6d. for it, and I got 5s. for that—I cannot tell when I bought one before—I have bought and sold different things for people—I am in the general line—my aunt is a marine-store dealer—her right name is Harradine—the name over the door is Humphreys—I generally attend Smithfield every Friday—I have been in the habit of attending the market and repositories.
NOT GUILTY .
GUILTY . Aged 19.
THOMAS NEWMAN (policeman, V 252). On 9th Nov. I was on duty on Clapham-common—I saw Dickins sitting down—I asked who he was waiting for—he said for his uncle (the other prisoner)—he said he was a footman, but he did not know where he lived—I waited for about an hour, and just after seven o'clock I saw Savage come to him, bringing a bundle, which he delivered to Dickins—I took them—I found in the bundle this bread and pair of boots—Dickins stated he had come all the way from Bishopsgate-street to meet his uncle—Savage said he got the bread from a baker's, which I found was false.
GUILTY .— Confined Four Months.
WILLIAM ISARD . The prisoner was in my service—on 7th Nov., I thought it necessary to have her boxes searched, and found the property stated—I could not swear to the tea, sugar, and calico, but I could to the other things—these cigars are mine—the others belong to Ann Henry—she is single.
Prisoner. She is not, she is married—her husband is alive—there were only four cigars that were his—I took them.
GUILTY . Aged 39.— Confined Two Months.
GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined Two Months.
Before Mr. Recorder.
214. WILLIAM MARTIN , stealing 49lbs. weight of lead, value 5s.; the goods of John Wormald and another, and fixed to a building; having been before convicted: 2nd Count, the goods of Arend John George Walstab.
MR. BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
SAMUEL HARRIS (police Sergeant, L 6). Between eight and nine o'clock at night, on 13th Nov., I saw the prisoner and another carrying something heavy—they saw me and ran away, and each dropped something—the other got away—I took the prisoner—I looked at what they dropped, and it was two bundles of lead—I produce the one carried by the prisoner—he was from two to three hundred yards from the shot wharf, and coming in a direction from it—he said he picked the lead up.
Cross-examined by. MR. PREXDEKGAST. Q. He was not in the same street? A. No—when in Duke-street, they crossed Stamford-street—I know the prisoner was one of the men—I have known him five or six years—I was from twelve to fourteen yards from him—the mens' faces were towards me—I took the lead to the station.
JAMES BRADY . I have the charge of the estate in which the shot wharf is—I attend to the repairing it, and receive the rents—the tenant's name is Walstab—I believe his Christian names are Arend John George.
Cross-examined. Q. How came you to know his name? A. From having intercourse with him—he has an agreement in which his names were—I would not swear it was not George John, or what name I saw him sign—he occupies a large range of warehouses, and one or two dwelling-houses—it was originally a large Patent-shot wharf—the lead was taken from the large warehouse, the shot tower warehouse—he occupies it for the sale of patent fuel—I have not seen the lead fitted to the roof.
Cross-examined. Q. In what way did it match? A. This piece of lead was left on the roof, and this part matches to it—it is the same sort of lead, and the same thickness—it is the piece the other man dropped that fits—I did not find as much lend as had been lost—we could not make an exact match with any, but this one piece—there had been fresh marks, and these pieces correspond with these marks, and also in the length.
DAVID PEGRAM (policeman, L 161). I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction at Newington by the name of Charles Smith—(read—Convicted, July, 1847, and confined six months)—he is the person.
GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined One Year .
Before Mr. Common Serjeant.
WILLIAM SMITH (policeman, P 32). I met the three prisoners in the Walworth-road, about half-a-mile from Mr. Mather's—I stopped them, and asked what they had got—they said "Nothing"—I asked them to allow me to search them—I found on Burton three of these handkerchiefs, on Evans two, and one on Allen.
Allen's Defener. A man came and asked if we would buy these handkerchiefs for 5s.; we had only 4s., and we bought them.
ALLEN †— GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years.
BURTON— GUILTY . Aged 14.
EVANS— GUILTY . Aged 13.
Confined Three Months.
MR. PARRY conducted the Prosecution.
HENRY GEORGE . I have three partners—we are stone-merchants, and have a wharf at Rotherhithe, and a countinghouse in Southwark-square—about the 20th Sept., the prisoner Johnson called on me—he inquired the price of stone, which I told him—he inquired the terms, I told him one month account, and three months on approved bills, making four months credit—he approved of the terms, and said he would call on Mr. Hodgson, and name to him the circumstance, and obtain his sanction and guarantee—he called again on the 2nd or 3rd Oct., and said he had seen Mr. Hodgson on the previous evening, and he had consented to become his guarantee and security—he gave me Hodgson's address, at Kingsland—I called there about eleven o'clock the next morning—I saw him, and said, I was instructed by Mr. Johnson to call on him relative to the purchase of some stone, and I believed he was the uncle of Mr. Johnson—he said, "Yes I am, and a very good lad he is, I have assisted him on some previous occasion, he has always been punctual in his engagements, and I shall be willing to assist him in this case"—I said the amount would be about 60l. or 70l.—he said as a young beginner he should not advise me to trust him in this transaction to a greater amount than 50l.—I told him I would do so, I would be governed by his recommendation—he then stated in general conversation that he was induced to do all the good he could, and he was then engaged in getting a youth into the Bluecoat-school, the son of a Mrs. Hutchings', at Rotherhitbe—there were several letters lying on the table, one of which he handed to me as being from the Hon. Fox Maule—I returned to my counting-house—I saw Cooper, the foreman, in the after part of the day—I directed him to deliver the stone, with one qualification—I requested him to make inquiries relative to Mrs. Hutchins', as to the character of Mr. Hodgson, as it was in reference to his responsibility the stone was to be delivered.
Cross-examined by MR. HUGHES. Q. Do you recollect sending your man to Johnson's-place with the stone? A. No; I never sent him—I never sent Cooper to say that I never delivered stone unless the carriage was paid—Mr. Holman's carman delivered the stone—I cannot say by whose direction—I wrote to Johnson, informing him that I never delivered stone unless the carriage was paid, and then he came to my place and said he would send for it—I consented to that—he said he had purchased 200 feet of York paving at our wharf, and he wanted more—to that I consented.
SAMUEL COOPER . I am wharfinger, in the employ of Messrs. George & Co. I remember Johnson coming to the wharf—I bad before received a communication from Mr. George—Johnson said his name was James Johnson; had 1 received a communication respecting him?—I said, "Yes"—he looked out ten blocks of stone, and put his initials "J. J." upon them—he said he wanted them as soon as possible—I sent them by the carman the next day.
(MR. PARRY here withdrew from the prosecution.)
MR. PARRY conducted the Prosecution.
GEORGE DUNCAN . I am of the firm of Boyd & Duncan, of Great Guildford-street, Southwark—we are emery and glass paper-manufacturers. On 25th Sept. Moore came to me—he pave his name "Alfred Edward Moore"—he said he was a grocer and draper, and lived at 2, St. John's-street, Colchester—he gave an order for emery and glass to the amount of 4l. 14s.—he wrote an address for me on the back of a card, which I gave to Bench—Moore said that if I would inquire at Bench's he vvould give me a good reference—he said he lived at No. 4-1, Francis-street, Newington Causeway—Moore said after I had seen Bench he would call again—I saw Bench at No. 44, Francis-street, Newington—I asked him if he knew anything of that party, producing the card at the same time—the name "A. E. Moore" was on it—he said he, knew him ever since he was a boy, and he wished to know what was the nature of the transaction—I told him, and he asked what quantity of goods he required—I said, probably 20l.—he said he was perfectly good for that, and he would have no hesitation in trusting him for that—I was satisfied with that—I believed Moore to be a grocer and draper at Colchester—I packed up some emery and glass paper to the amount of 4l. 14s., and Moore called and took it away—I afterwards received a paper from him, dated Sept. 28, signed Alfred Edward Moore—I gave it to Cross, the officer—I received the paper by hand—in consequence of that paper I went to 44, Francis-street, Newington Causeway, to make some inquiries of Bench—that was the latter end of September, two or three days after the order was received—Bench was gone, and the house was shut up—I returned home by the Blackfriars-road, and 1 saw Moore in Blackfriars-road standing outside an ironmonger's shop, measuring some stoves—I stopped a few minutes till he had done, and then called him—he did not answer—he walked on—I went and stopped him and asked when he came to town—he said, "Yesterday"—I asked if he had been calling at our place, as I had been out some time—he said, no, but ho would do so either that day or to-morrow and give me some money—he said I was to have the order ready that he wrote for, and he would take it away to-morrow when he came to pay me the money—he asked what was the reason I had not sent him the goods he wrote for—I had received but one paper containing an order—this is it (read—"No. 2, St. John's-street, Colchebter, Sept. 27, 1848. Messrs. Boyd & Duncan. Gentlemen, Having a friend of mine coming to town, I have forwarded this letter by him, so that if you have not sent the sweetmeats and liquorice I will thank you to let him have it, so that it will not cost me anything for carriage, and at the same time send me one ream more of emery cloth paper and half a cwt. of your best glue, for I have orders for some. I shall be able to send you a post-office order for 6l. next Wednesday. By attending to this you will oblige, yours respectfully, Alfred E. Moore"—This letter enclosed a card, on which was "A. E. Moore, Grocer and Draper, 2, St. John's-street, Colchester"—Moore came to me shortly afterwards, and I gave him into custody—about eight or ten days after I met Bench in Gravel-lane—when he saw me he made to run away—I got the assistance of a policeman, and gave him in charge.
Cross-examined by MR. HUGHES. Q. Look at this piece of paper; is it your handwriting? A. Yes—(read)—"Received of Mr. Moore—4l. 14s. for
goods sold. BOYD AND DIIXCAN. "—this is my invoice—I recollect attending at the police-office, and the evidence I gave there—I saw Cross, the policeman, there—we probably might go to a public-house to drink after the Court was over—after I left the public-house I went down to Southwark-square with the policeman—a female went with us, who had called at our shop—she represented herself as Moore's wife—she stated there was some person coming to pay me some money—I did not receive any money from her, but from Foster, I believe—I got one sovereign and an I O U.
HENRY GEORGE . I am a stone-merchant. Moore went by the name of Johnson to me—I saw him on 20th Sept., and then he represented his name to be Johnson, residing in Friar-street, Union-street, Blackfriars-road—I saw him again on 3rd Oct.—he did not say where he had been between then and 20th Sept.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you ever know him in custody? A. No, but I have seen him use a house where thieves go.
SAMUEL CROSS (policeman). Moore was given into my custody by Mr. Duncan—he said he must go, he supposed; it was a bad case—I found on him this pocket-book—I went to Friar-street, Union-street, Blackfriars-road—I made inquiries—he did not live there.
MOORE— GUILTY . Aged 25.— Transported for Seven Years.
BENCH— NOT GUILTY .
NOT GUILTY .
Before Mr. Common Serjeant.
219. CAROLINE HALL , stealing 2 1/2 yards of cloth, value 4s. 4d.; the goods of John Bryant and another: also, 1 blouse, 3s.; the goods of James Robinson Cockburn; having been before convicted; to which she pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined One Year .
Cross-examined by MR. MELLER. Q. Are you his master? A. Yes; he was in the employ since July or Aug.—the clamp was at York-road, where he was at work—many other men were employed there—if men took tools away, and returned them, I should discharge them.
Cross-examined. Q. I believe he has been in the habit of pledging tools and redeeming them? A. Yes; the night before he was taken he called to redeem this tool, but he had not got enough money—he came again, but it was too late.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined Six Months.
(There were two other indictments against the prisoner.)
GEOROR TURNER . I am a labourer. On 18th Nov., about three o'clock in the morning, I met the prisoner in the New-cut—she asked me to go with her—I said I would have nothing to do with her—she put her hand into my pocket, and took 6d. out—I crossed the road to get rid of her—she followed and clung to me—I had had a little liquor, but knew what I was about—she put her hand into my pocket, and took out this bag (produced), with a half-sovereign, a half-crown, and 3s. in it.
Prisoner's Defence. He walked with me to the Waterloo-road, and told me he had been with some girl, who robbed him of 6d. and some halfpence; he wanted me to lie down in the street, and as I would not, he called "Police!" and said I had robbed him; the money I had was mine.
NOT GUILTY .
MR. BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
RACHAEL ROGERS . In Sept., 1847, I had a box corded up at the Bricklayers' Arms station, directed, "Miss Rogers, to be left at the Bricklayers' Arms station till called for"—I had written to Canterbury to desire it to be forwarded—I went to the station more than once, but could get no tidings of it—it contained a mahogany work-box, about a foot long, some ear-rings, a necklace, gowns, and other things—these are the ear-rings (produced.)
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Were there not two pair? A. Yes—this pair are gold.
Cross-examined. Q. Do you know Daniel Haines? A. Yes; he is my uncle—I believe he is employed by the railway—he used to come to my father's—Cook did not say he got the rings from Haines—Haines brought a mahogany box there, nearly a foot long, and about six inches broad.
MR. BODKIN, Q. Was it before he brought the ear-rings? A. About the same time. (MR. BODKIN withdrew from the Prosecution.)
NOT GUILTY .
MORRISS RICHARDS . On 5th Nov., between nine 3nd ten o'clock in the morning, I saw the prisoner coming with-his son from Mr. Gripper's ware-house with this bundle under the boy's arm—I asked where he got it—he said his father gave it him—the father was not there then—I went to him, and asked if the boy was his son—he said, "Yes"—I asked if he gave him those peas—he said, "Yes"—I asked if his master allowed him to do so—he said, "Yes"—I took him and the peas.
GUILTY . Aged 35.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Six Months.
ADJOURNED TO MONDAY, DECEMBER 18TH, 1848.