CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.
EIGHTH SESSION, HELD JUNE 12TH, 1848.
MINUTES OF EVIDENCE,
Taken in Short-hand
JAMES DROVER BARNETT
33, Southampton-street, Strand.
TYLER & REED, PRINTERS, BOLT-COURT, FLEET-STREET.
On the Queen's Commission of the Peace,
OYER AND TERMINER, AND GAOL DELIVERY
The City of London,
AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE
COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND THE PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION
CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT,
Held on Monday, June 12th, 1848, and following Days.
Before the Right Hon. JOHN KINNERSLEY HOOPER, LORD MAYOR of the City of London; Sir John Patteson, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Queen's Bench; Sir Robert Monsey Rolfe, Knt., one of the Barons of Her Majesty's Court of Exchequer; Charles Farebrother, Esq.; Sir Chapman Marshall, Knt.; John Humphery, Esq., M. P.; Sir William Magnay, Bart.; Michael Gibbs, Esq.; and John Johnson, Esq., Aldermen of the said City: the Hon. Charles Ewan Law, M. P., Recorder of the said City: William Hunter, Esq.; Francis Graham Moon, Esq.; David Salomons, Esq.; Thomas Quested Finnis, Esq.; and William Lawrence, Esq., Aldermen of the said City: John Mirehouse, Esq., Common-Serjeant of the said City: and Edward Bullock, Esq., Judge of the Sheriffs' Court: Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and Gaol Delivery of Newgate holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.
LIST OF JURORS.
CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.
HOOPER, MAYOR. EIGHTH SESSION.
A star (*) denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—Two stars (**) that they have been more than once in custody—An obelisk (†) that they are known to be the associates of bad characters.
LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES.
OLD COURT.—Monday, June 12th, 1848.
PRESENT—The Right Hon. the LORD MAYOR; Mr. Ald. GIBBS; Mr. RECORDER; Mr. Aid. SALOMONS; and Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE.
Before Mr. Recorder and the First Jury.
1451. SAMUEL SMITH and MARY SMITH were indicted for stealing 19 spoons, 4 salt-spoons, and other articles, value 50l.; and 45l. in moneys; the property of Eliza Rebecca Lloyd, in her dwelling-house. (See Seventh Session, page 112.)
The COURT being of opinion that the evidence, as opened by MR. RYLAND, was insufficient, the prisoners were
WILLIAM RICH . I am a pewterer and brassmonger, in Upper Ebury-street, Pimlico. The prisoner was in my service six months—I missed some gas-fittings, which were found in a room which he rented—he was then at the station—these are them (produced.)
Prisoner. They are my own. Witness. I know them by the shape, pat-tern, and number—the prisoner had 30s. a week—I had paid him 2l. on the Saturday—I saw some metal pipe and brass work found on him.
Prisoners Defence. The things found at my lodging are mine; those found on me I was going to try an experiment with, in mixing metals, and should have returned them.
GUILTY. Aged 21.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Three Months .
SILVANUS WHITE . I am in the service of Mr. George Hitchcock, of St. Paul's-churchyard. On 7th June the prisoner came there, and bought trifling things, to the amount of 1s. 1d.—there was something in her manner which led me to suspect her—I saw her walking from some silks as I was returning
from another part of the shop—I informed the shop-walker—T walked behind her as she was leaving the shop, and saw her drop two pieces of silk from under her cloak—the shop-walker stopped her, and said she had dropped some silks—she said she had not dropped them, hut a friend of hers had—she picked them up and threw them on a lady's lap, who was sitting about a yard beyond her, nearer the door, and said that lady had them on her lap—that lady is not here—I am sure the prisoner dropped them.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Did you serve her? A. Yes another young man served her first—no one spoke to her the whole of the time I saw her—I do not know the other lady's name—I think I had seen her in the shop before—the shop-walker is not here—Mr. Hitchcock has no houses in Piccadilly.
ROBERT TURNER BUCK . White gave me information, and I watched the prisoner—after she received her change she was going towards the door—I was near the door—she walked seven or eight yards—I saw her hands move, and a sudden lift of the elbows—something moved under her cloak, and the silk fell from her cloak—I charged her-with it—she said, "The silks did not fall from my cloak; another woman let them fall"—I said, "You must not proceed further"—she picked up the silk, and threw it on a lady's lap, who was sitting about a yard nearer the door—there was no one between the lady and the door.
Cross-examined. Q. She denied all along that she had anything to do with it? A. Yes—she was asked if she had anything else on her person, she raised her dress, but nothing was observed—she was not searched.
JOHN CORAM (City-policeman, 95.) I produce the things the prisoner bought—I found 1 1/2 d. on her—I told her the charge—she said it was a friend of hers did it, and she had put her in for it—I said, "Where is your friend?"—she said, "I will give you her address by and by," but she afterwards refused to do so—at her instance, I went to 27, Piccadilly, where she said she had lived eighteen years, and paid 30l. a year—I found it was false—a person named Briggs has lived twenty-three years in that house—the prisoner first gave her name Mary Jones, and then said it was Briggs.
Cross-examined. Q. Did not she say she was married to Mr. Briggs, and that Jones was her maiden name? A. Yes—she had given me her address before that, 34, Tunell-brook, Piccadilly—I could not find any such place.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY of Larceny. — Transported for Seven Years .
GUILTY . * Aged 32.— Confined One Year .
MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM BROCK (policeman. H 65.) On 18th May, about a quarter to ten o'clock at night, I was on duty on the South-quay, London-docks, where casks of brandy were lying—I saw the prisoner crouching between the casks, and heard a rippling of liquid in the water—I turned my light on him and asked what he was after—he made no answer—I pulled him away, and heard a rattling like a piece of tin—I said, "You are at the brandy," and pulled him on to the pavement—I saw Luton take a tankard with brandy in it from the same spot.
HENRY LUTON (Thames-police inspector.) I was called by Brock, who had the prisoner by the collar—I found a spile where he described, and drove it in, also this tin pot with brandy in it—I asked the prisoner some ques-tions—he gave no answer, but appeared drunk—I sent him to the station, called the captain up, went into the forecastle and found four bottles of brandy in the prisoner's berth, which was close to where he was found.
HENRY ASHCROFT . I am assistant master-cooper in the London-docks—a cask of brandy was pointed out to me by Luton—I found this spile in the head, and a hole open by which brandy could be extracted—about half a gallon was gone from it—the brandy found is of the same quality as that in the cask and that in the prisoner's berth—I broke open the prisoner's chest, and found two bottles of brandy with the corks out—he said he brought them from Sharant—he had come from Sharant as a seaman in the same vessel as the brandy was in.
Prisoner's Defence. The bottles belonged to another man; the corks were taken out that the Custom-house officers might not take them.
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Four Months .
NEW COURT.—Monday, June 12th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. MOON and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq. and the Fifth Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 42.— Confined Six Months .
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Six Months .
1458. JOHN WATSON , feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Edward Murray, and stealing therein 1 coat, 1 hat, 1 cruet-stand and other articles; the goods of Edward Colston; to which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 30.— Transported for Ten Years .
MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.
ROBERT EDWARDS . I am a trooper in the letter "A" troop of the First Regiment of Life Guards—the prisoner was a corporal in the same troop—on 25th January last he occupied a room opposite me in the Regent's-park Barracks—on that day 1 was in my room, where 1 had a box containing a writing-case, a silver watch in a cigar-case, a gold pin, and 3l. 15s. in gold and silver—on the morning of 25th Jan., I was putting some things away in the writing-case, the prisoner came in, and saw me do it, he did not make any remark—I put my things away and left the room about half-past, three o'clock—I did not see the prisoner at that time—I do not know where he was—I did not lock the room door—I left several comrades in the room—I returned about half-past six, and about half-past eight I went to my box—I found it right, but the writing-case had been taken out, and the
articles stated were all gone—I have seen none of them since, except the cigar-case—this is it (produced)—there are the figures "3s. 6d." on it,—which correspond with figures which were on the one I lost.
Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. Do you know Mr. Darling? A. Yes; when we were stationed at Windsor I occasionally called at his house—on the day of this robbery there were two other men in my room who were getting ready for duty—the prisoner was not getting ready for duty—he was observing me—I cannot tell whether I left him in the room when I went away or whether he had left before—I have had this case three or four years—I bought it at Nantwich—I will swear to it—I have never said I would not swear to it—every inquiry was made and information given about my loss.
MR. BALLINTINE. Q. You had known Mr. Darling at Windsor? A. Yes—we left there on the 1st of last July—I have not been in Windsor since. William Dakling. I am landlord of the Red Lion, at Windsor. I knew the prisoner while he was stationed there—on 23rd March, he called about twelve o'clock in the day, and wished to leave his great coat—I tool charge of it—he went to the great coat in the course of the afternoon, and he and I were sitting in the parlour smoking and taking a glass of grog—he said he had something he would make me a present of—I said, "What is it?"—he said a cigar-case which came from Canton, in China, that it had been given him by an officer's servant whom he had been doing some work for—I told him I did not want any present, but as it came from there and was a curiosity I would accept of it—I handed it to Haynes on 30th.
Cross-examined. Q. You showed it to Edwards? A. Yes—he had described it to me before.
MR. BALLANTINE called
FREDERICK JONES . I am a gentleman's servant. The prisoner is my brother—I have no hesitation in saying that I gave this cigar-case to him by the appearance of it—I purchased it at Maidstone two years ago of a person who was travelling about—he told me he had been an officer's servant—I was in a public-house at the time I bought it—I gave it to my brother about two years ago—I told him how I came by it.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. What public-house was this in? A. I do not know the name of it—it is on the right hand side in going towards the Cavalry depot—I was not in service then—I had been living with Sir Francis Stapleton, but I had left him—I went to see Rochester and some other places—I gave the man half-a-crown and a pint of beer—he asked me more—he may have asked me 3s. or 3s. 6d. for it—I kept it in my possession about a month—I am not a smoker myself, but I bought it in commiseration of the man, who said he had been an officer's servant, and was in trouble—he was a pedlar—he had various little articles—I have never been to China—I am now in the service of Mrs. Martinas, near Farnham—I do not recollect whether I have seen this case since I gave it to my brother—I have been on terms of intimacy with him—I do not recollect whether I saw him in Jan., Feb., or March—I was in town once or twice with my mistress—I called on my brother once, but I do not recollect in what month—I came to town about Christmas, but we only staid a few hours—if I did see my brother in Jan. or Feb., it was when I came up, but I cannot be positive in what month it was—I never heard from him of the robberies that had taken place
—perhaps I bad this case about a month before I gave it to my brother—he was then at Knightsbridge barracks—I was visiting him there as I was out of a situation—we were alone—I have seen him sometimes smoke—cigars—I made him a present of a handkerchief at the same time—he was complaining of wanting one, and it was not ready for him—I took one out, and said, "I will make you a present of one," and I said, "There is a thing that I purchased the other day; if you smoke I will make you a present of it"—I told him I bought it at Maidstone—I mentioned the person who sold it—I did not say how that person obtained it—the person did not tell me how he obtained it.
MR. ROBINSON. Q. Did the person you bought it of, tell you who he was? A. He said he had been a great deal in India, at Agra, and Delhi, and he described them, and said the people were a warlike ferocious set of men—as I do not smoke I did not very often look inside this case—I described the case before I saw it again—I described it precisely as this is.
JURY to ROBERT EDWARDS. Q. Was it known to any of your comrades that you had such a cigar-case? A. Yes two of them are here.
Cross-examined. Q. Were you on terms of intimacy with Edwards? A. Yes—I was not intimate with the prisoner—he is a non-commissioned officer—the prosecutor is a private.
GUILTY .— Transported for Seven Years .
JOHN DEANS . I am master of the schooner Diligence, at Gravesend. On 28th April I slept at the prisoner's house, at Shadwell—I had a female with me, and when I went to the house I gave my watch to her—she gave it to Ann Morgan in my presence—it was left in pawn for the bed—I stopped there that night and went away next morning—I did not ask for my watch when I went away—I went back about two o'clock in the afternoon and asked Ann Morgan for it—she said she had pawned it for 1l., and she gave me the duplicate—there were two or three girls in the house, who kept pulling me about, and asking me for something to drink—I gave Ann Morgan a shilling to send for something to drink, and they brought in a pot of beer—I just tasted it—I had at that time four 5l. notes and nine sovereigns in a purse, in my pocket—I was in the house till between four and five, when I left—I was about to pay a labourer, and I found my money was gone out of my purse, and the purse was put back again into my pocket—during the time I was in the house Ann Morgan sat by my side—I was quite sober when I went there—I drank about half-a-pint of beer, and in a few minutes I felt quite stupid—I left the house about half-past four and went to my ship—I told the mate of my vessel—I did not go back to the prisoner's house that night—I went the next morning and saw Ann Morgan—I told her what had happened; she denied knowing anything about it; I gave her in charge—she was searched at the station, and 1l. 3s. was taken from her, but no notes—I had seen Thomas Morgan in bed in the house, in the morning—I had 4s. 6d. in silver in my left-hand pocket—I did not lose that.
I paid Deans four 5l. notes and ten sovereigns—I have the numbers of the notes.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Where did you take that memorandumof the numbers of the notes from? A. From the book, which is not here—the numbers were 78118, 78119, 78120, and 78121, and the letters were "T I"—I know these are two of the notes I gave him, from recollection, without reference to the book.
CHARLES AUGUSTUS BUSHELL . I am a clerk in the Bank of England. I produce these two notes, cancelled—No. 78118, was paid into the Bank on 5th May, and No. 78121 on 6th May, from Smith, Payne, and Co.—they are dated 2nd March, 1848.
GEORGE PRATT . I keep the New Cross Inn, at New Cross. I receivedthis 5l. note, No. 781 18, from Thomas Morgan—I paid it away to a Mr. Smith, who is not here—I do not remember on what day I took it—it was about the 1st of May—I put the prisoner's name and the date on it—the date is cut out here—here is the name on the corner.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Whose writing is this? A. Mine—I knew Thomas Morgan by sight before—I am quite sure I received it of him.
GEORGE WEST . I keep the Duke of Clarence public-house, in the Commercial-road. I cashed this note, No. 78121, for a man dressed like a sailor—he showed me the certificate of his ship, and said he had been paid off at Southampton.
JAMES ARMITAGE . I was at the Duke of Clarence when Mr. West gave change for a note, but I do not know of what amount it was—I have seen Thomas Morgan by going down to the part where he lives—I really believe he was the person who had the change, but what change it was I do not know.
WILLIAM CHARLES POTTER (policeman, K 212.) On Saturday morning, 13th May, I went to the prisoner's house, in Elbow-lane, Shadwell—I saw Thomas Morgan—I told him to consider himself my prisoner for changing one of the 5l. notes, stolen from a captain, in his house—I said he changed one at New Cross, that I had been to the Bank, and got a copy of what was on it, "Thomas Morgan, Elbow-lane"—he said he knew nothing about it—I took him to the station, and went back and took Ann Morgan—she said she knew nothing about it, she could not help it.
EDWARD WANDERER TOWNSEND (police-sergeant, K 8.) I was at the station when Thomas Morgan was brought there—I asked how he came in possession of the note—he said he picked it up a few yards from his door the next dav—I said, "If you knew vour wife was in custody, why did you not give notice to the police?"—he said, "I don't know; I don't deny having changed the note with Mr. Pratt "—shortly afterwards, he called me to the cell, and said, "My wife knows nothing of this; at the time the captain was robbed, she was in the next house, washing."
MR. ROBINSON to JOHN DEANS. Q. How long had you been from sea? A. Four days—I am married—I had only had one pint of ale that day—I tasted out of the pot of beer at the prisoner's—I had nothing else—I had had nothing on board—I came on shore the first thing in the morning—I went to the prisoner's house at two o'clock, on purpose to get my watch—I think there were two females there besides Ann Morgan—there were several persons knocking about the door, and walking backwards and forwards, but not, in the house—I received the money that morning, and I went directly there from Messrs. Duke and Hill's, as I was rather in a hurry to get my ship out
of the Dock—I was a good deal pulled about by the—women in the house, for something to drink—I was not pulled about outside.
ANN MORGAN— NOT GUILTY .
THOMAS MORGAN— GUILTY . Aged 34.— Transported for Ten Years .
OLD COURT.—Tuesday, June 13th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. GIBBS; Mr. Ald. JOHNSON; Mr. RECORDER; Mr. Ald. WILLIAM HUNTER; and Mr. Ald. SALOMONS.
Before Mr. Recorder and the Second Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 12.— Confined Three Weeks .
GUILTY , and received a good character. Aged 18.— Confined Four Months .
GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Six Months .
GEORGE RUSSELL (City-policeman, 34.) On 8th June, about twelve o'clock, I was on duty in St. Paul's churchyard, as the charity children were going to St. Paul's, and saw the prisoner—he followed Mr. Gaunt from the eastern side of the churchyard to the western, then came close up to him, put his hand into his pocket, took out this handkerchief, and put it into his own pocket—I immediately seized him, and told Mr. Gaunt—I felt the prisoner down, and opened his coat, but did not find the handkerchief—Mr. Gaunt saw it on the ground, picked it up, and gave it to me.
Prisoner. Q. Was the handkerchief close at my feet? A. Quite close—there was no one but you near the prosecutor.
Prisoner's Defence. I went to see the children going to St. Paul's, and was eating a biscuit, when the policeman seized me, and said I had picked the gentleman's pocket; two young men rushed from between me and the gen-tleman and the handkerchief was kicked out from among the people; the gentleman picked it up, and I was taken; two gentlemen there said, "You have got the wrong."
GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined Six Months.
LOPEZ FONSECA LOPEZ . I am an importer of foreign goods, at Little St. Thomas-the-Apostle. The prisoner was in my service—on 20th April I gave him this check (produced) to get cashed—he never returned.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Who did you give it to? A. To
a clerk, (I think it was Morris Steinhard,) to give to the prisoner—he is not here.
NOT GUILTY .
1466. WILLIAM THOMAS , stealing 6 printed books, and 80 book binder's tools, value 7l.; the goods of John William Herbert: and 3 books 10s.; the goods of Theophilus Noble, in his dwelling-house: and WILLIAM PITMAN , feloniously receiving part of the said property.
MR. RYLAND conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN WILLIAM HERBERT . I am a bookbinder, and occupy a workshop at 114, Chancery-lane, at the back of Mr. Noble's shop. On Tucday, 16th May, I had some binders' tools—I missed them on Friday morning, on going to my workshop, with six volumes of "Shakspere," a pattern volume of the "British Essayist," and one volume of the "Statutes," of 1843—they were then in an unfinished state—I have since seen one of my tools—I had not used it for two months before—I know it because, two years ago, I broke the shank off it in putting it into a handle, and I have a book here with the impression of the tool upon it—I discovered some of the books at Mr. Weddell's shop on 24th May—these produced are them—they are a portion of those I lost—Thomas's brother occupied a room above me, and he brought the prisoner into my workshop the evening before the robbery, and said he was going to give up business, and was going into a situation, and wished to know whether I would buy his tools; but I did not want any—the value of the books I lost is about 3l., and the tools—would sell for 4l.—I could not replace them for 16l.—my workshop is part of Mr. Noble's house—the entrance to it is in Star-court, by a street-door open to all the lodgers.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Was Thomas in the habit of working with his brother? A. Never, to my knowledge.
EBENEZER NOBLE . I am shopman to Theophilus Noble, of 114, Chancery-lane. Mr. Herbert has the back premises—on 18th May, about half-past nine o'clock in the morning, I went there, and missed twenty or thirty volumes of books from the shelves—I have seen some of them since—these three (produced) arc Mr. Noble's property—I can positively swear this one was on the shelf the night before—there is a mark of mine on the outside.
JOHN ROGERS (City-policeman, 333.) On Friday morning, 19th May, I was in Chancery-lane, just by Star-court, between five and six o'clock, and saw Thomas sitting about there, and in and out of the court—I asked him what he was waiting there for—he said for his brother—I left him there—I afterwards heard of the robbery, and took him into custody about half-past eight next morning, in Aldersgate-street, and I found this tool (produced) in his right-hand pocket.
Cross-examined. Q. JOSEPH THOMAS was taken first? A. I believe he was, but not by me—he was discharged.
JACOB MARSHALL (City-policeman, 328.) On Thursday, 25th May, I went to 70, Noble-street, Goswell-street, and found Pitman there—I told him, in consequence of a letter being sent to the inspector, we accused him of having stolen property in his room—I had the letter in my hand—I asked whether he had any objection to my searching the room—he said, "Not the slightest"—I searched, but found nothing—I asked whether he had any objection to accompany me to the City-road—ho said he did not sec why he should, and asked me to show my authority—I showed him my warrant, and after a few minutes he went with me to Mr. Weddell's, a bookseller, who immediately
identified him as one of the men he had bought books of—I took him into custody—we had previously found the books at Weddell's shop, and he gave me a description of Pitman—Thomas saw the letter before the Magistrate, and admitted that the signature was his, but not the letter—(letter read—" Giltspur-street Compter. To the Inspector of Police, Fleet-street Station. Sir, In the case of William Thomas, who was taken into custody last Saturday morning, he will find those he wants at No. 70, Noble-street, Goswell-street, on the second-floor back-room, and most likely some of the property stolen. The party not in custody not wishing to suffer for the guilty, makes this statement conscientiously, knowing the same to be true. The purchaser of the books has perjured himself most grossly, as will be proved by confronting him with the above persons, having dealt with the female, to the writer's knowledge, several times before, knowing it to have been stolen. Description—one man, 5ft. oin. in height, fair, slim built, plumber by trade—second; a woman, much taller than the man, dark complexion, slim built, narrow face, and long nose—third; John Reed, stout built, about 5ft. 8in., lives somewhere about Percival-street, Clerkenwell, uses the Champion public-house, in Goswell-road. I remain, your obedient servant, W. THOMAS. "
GEORGE EDIS EVANS (Turnkey at the Compter). Thomas was in my custody—on 25th May he asked me for a pen, ink, and paper, which I gave him—he afterwards gave me this letter—I know his writing—the signature is his—but not the body of it—it was passed out in the usual way.
EDWARD WEDDELL . I am a bookseller, at 4, Bridge-place, City-road. On Saturday morning, 20th May, between five and six o'clock, the prisoner Pitman, and another person not in custody, brought me a parcel of books—I think fifteen or sixteen—there were six copies of "Shakspere," one odd volume of "Statutes," and one of the "British Essayist "—they wanted 2l. for them—I said if 1 bought them I was not then prepared to pay for them (I had a little suspicion)—they expressed their willingness to let it be so, but said I must give them a little money then—I agreed to give them half-a-crown less than they asked—I gave them 10s. then, and they went away—on Monday, 22nd May, they both came again, and I paid them more—they came again separately on the Tuesday and I paid the rest of the money, altogether 1l. 17s. 6d.—I paid part to Pitman and part to the other.
Cross-examined. Q. Before you saw the parties the last time did you know that William Thomas was in custody? A. No; I did not hear of the robbery for a week after.
Pitman. I never took any money from that person, and never sold him a book in my life. Witness. He came with a companion, and I paid him a half-sovereign—they appeared to be in copartnership.
J. W. HERBERT re-examined. These are the books I lost—they are all mine, and were safe at half-past ten o'clock on the night before I missed them—they have been finished since by some binder—the gilding and lettering have been done since—I know them by marks on the leather—this is the tool I lost.
JACOB MARSHALL re-examined. I was present on 10th June, when Pitman made a statement before the Magistrate—it was taken down in writing, and, I believe, signed by Mr. Ald. Gibbs—I did not see him sign it—it was read over to Pitman, and he said it was perfectly correct.
COURT. Q. Was it tendered to him to sign? A. I believe not—I was standing close by and could see the writing—I heard what the prisoner stated—I heard what was written down read over—it appeared to be the same—(read—"The prisoner, William Pitman, voluntarily says, 'At half-past eight
o'clock in the morning, last week, I met a man in Hatton-garden and this man (the prisoner William Thomas); the other man had a bag on his shoulder; he said to me 'Halloo, Bill, will you allow me to leave these things at your house;' I said I had no objection; I am a plumber; then he asked me if I had any objection to go with him; he was going to sell then:, we went to Weddell's house and we sold some, and this man came with usthe other man is a book-edge gilder; he took the money of that gentleman (Weddell) and we got pretty well drunk together; this man (William Thomas) and me never had a farthing of the money; we went to a public-houseat the corner, where Weddell goes; we went to two or three places; this man (William Thomas) did not go into the shop he was outside.'"
JOHN ROGERS re-examined. I was present when the letter was produced—Thomas said something, which was taken down in writing and signed by the Magistrate, and read over to him—I believe this to be the Magistrate's writing—the prisoner made no objection to it (read—"The prisoner Thomas, says, 'I signed this letter with my name; I am quite innocent; I was waiting for my brother, and while doing so I picked up this brass tool.'")
Pitman's Defence. I became acquainted with this man at a public-house; he asked me to go with him to sell the books, which he said were given to him instead of money which was owing to him; I went, but I did not have any money.
EDWARD WEDDELL , re-examined. It was Pitman who said they wanted 2l. for the books, and I think it was him who said they had been employed to sell them, but I cannot distinctly say which spoke—Pitman was generally the speaker—I paid Pitman the 10s. when he was alone, in respect of these books.
Pitman. This gentleman paid me half-a-crown, and I gave it to the man who was outside the door. Witness. I am positive I paid him 10s.—I did not see Thomas at all—I believe the second man was not Thomas's brother but another party—it was to him I gave a half-crown.
NOT GUILTY .
NEW COURT.—Tuesday, June 13th, 1848.
PRESENT—Sir WILLIAM MAGNAY, Bart., Ald.; Mr. Ald. GIBBS; Mr. Ald. MOON; Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE; and Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Sixth Jury.
NOT GUILTY .
MR. BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
MARIA HUNN . I am the wife of James Hunn, a greengrocer, of High-street, Whitechapel. On 8th June, about seven o'clock, the prisoner came for 2lbs. of potatoes, which came to 1 1/2 d.—I served her—she gave me a shilling—I gave her 10 1/2 d. change—she went away—I thought the shilling looked queer—I put it into my pocket—I afterwards received other shillings, which I put into the same pocket—in about an hour the prisoner returned, and asked for half-a-peck of peas for her landlady—they came to 3d.—she gave me a shilling—I gave her change—she left a few yards—I bit it, found it was soft, went after her, brought her back, and said, "I shall give you in charge; this is the second shilling you have brought me within this hour"—
she did not contradict it, but wanted to go into the yard—I sent for an officer, who took her and the shilling I had last taken—I took out several shillings, but knew the one I had taken from her—it was a white looking one—I swear it was the same she gave me.
WILLIAM WEBB (policeman, H 42.) I was called—Mrs. Humm gave me these two shillings—I took the prisoner—she said she went with a shilling for the potatoes, and she was sent with the second shilling by her landlady, for some peas—after the depositions were taken, I said I would make inquiry—she said she did not receive it from any one, that I need not trouble myself, it was her own—her landlady lives in the same house with her.
Prisoner. This is not the shilling I gave her; I did not know the other was bad.
GUILTY . Aged 37.— Confined Six Months .
Cross-examined by MR. CARTER. Q. Did she pawn them in her own name?A. Yes; for half-a-crown—this is the duplicate I gave her.
(The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate being read, contained these words: "I went into Hannah Tucker's room, which is next to mine; I saw the hoots on the table; she asked me to pawn them for her, and I did.")
Cross-examined. Q. "What did you say? A. I asked how she became possessed of them—she said she did not know what I meant—she was taken before the pawnbroker, and admitted that she had pawned them.
MR. CARTER called
FRANCES DOWLING . I am the wife of Henry Dowling, of Uxbridge—I have known the prisoner about seven years—she is a neighbour of mine—on a Thursday she came to my house with a pair of boots, and said they were for Tucker, she was going to pawn them—I afterwards saw her giv Tucker the money and the duplicate.
COURT. Q. What time was this? A. In the forenoon—it was opposite my window—she lives next door to Tucker, who lives adjoining me.
STEPHEN MASTERS re-examined. I heard the prisoner's statement before the Magistrate—there were persons named Tucker at Uxbridge when I took her—I have not seen them since—I believe they have absconded.
NOT GUILTY .
MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the Prosecution.
the Society, at four per cent. commission—it was his duty to account to me every Monday night for any money he had received after the former Monday—on Monday, 6th March, I asked him if he had received any money—he said, "No"—I was present on 20th—March, when he was asked if he had received Mr. Miller's money—he said he had not.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. He was employed by several other societies in the same way? A. I have heard so—I believe he is married and has children.
SAMUEL WILLIAM MILLER . I live in Duke-street, Westminster-road—my father holds a house, No. 43, Arundel-street—I pay the rent of it—the prisoner called on me for it—he directed me to call with the money at his house to pay it to his wife, and he would leave a receipt for it, as it would save his coming again—on 6th March I called, paid his wife, and got this receipt in his writing—I had paid money to her before.
Cross-examined. Q. What did he say? A. He said if I paid the money his wife would be at home to receive it—I had seen this receipt when he called with it early in Feb.—I was not ready then.
WILLIAM HOLLAND (policeman, 146 N.) I took the prisoner—I told him he was charged with embezzling 5l., and other moneys, of the Finsbury Land Company—he said it was through distress, and he would make up the money by Monday or Tuesday—the secretary was with me.
GUILTY. Aged 57.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury and Prosecutors. — Confined Two Months .
GUILTY . Aged 38.— Transported for Seven Years .
GUILTY. Aged 27.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Six Months .
GUILTY . Aged 30.— Confined One Year .
GUILTY. Aged 14.— Judgment Respited .
MARY CONNOR . I am the wife of Timothy Connor, of Edward's-place, Marylebone. The prisoner lodged with me—these ear-rings, brooch, ring, and other things were safe in a piece of a glove, in my trunk, on the Saturday when I went to take out a duplicate—the prisoner saw them, and said she should like to have them—I said I would not sell them—on the Sunday, the prisoner, and Ann Buckley, who lodged there with her, left—on the Monday these things were gone—they are here, except the ring—these are mine.
Prisoner's Defence. I got them from Ann Buckley, who said she got them from Mrs. Connor; I gave the brooch to Sullivan, and said I picked it up.
GUILTY . Aged 28.— Confined Four Months .
CHARLOTTE LAPHAM . I live in Aldersgate-street. I was on Snow-hill about one o'clock, on 22nd May—I stopped to look in a window about two minutes—Munro stood by my side—Cullen was three or four yards from her, and said to Munro, "I am going"—at that instant Munro drew her hand from my pocket—I missed my purse, with two half-crowns, three shillings, and a sixpence in it—they went into a public-house—I spoke to a policeman, who took them—3s. 6d. was found on Munro, but no purse.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. On which side of you was Munro? A. On my right, where my pocket was—as she left she bad her handkerchief in her hand—I had never seen her before—I could not swear to Cullen.
RICHARD HUMPHREY (City-policeman, 289.) I was on duty on Snow-hill at a quarter past one o'clock—I took Munro coming out of the public-house—I took her to the station, and went back and took Cullen—she called on several of her companions to split my head with a quart pot—she had a key in her hand—I saw her try to pass it to her husband—I caught her hand—she had a half-crown and some halfpence in it—I tried to get it from her—she threw me down—I had to call another officer to get the money from her.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you search for the purse in the public-house? A. No—there were ten or twelve Irish tailors, and I was afraid.
NOT GUILTY .
CHARLOTTE BRITTAIN . I had this watch to take care of—I locked it up in my drawer—I saw it safe about ten minutes before twelve o'clock on the Wednesday—I went out, and left no one at home but the prisoner—I afterwards missed it.
Cross-examined. Q. Why did Rodda give it to you? A. It had an accident—the prisoner lodged in the house, and two young men.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 30.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury. — Confined Three Months .
JAMES WOOD . I am a woollen-draper in Bishopsgate-street. On 6th Juno I was at my door, talking to Mr. May—I heard that a piece of cloth Had been taken—I went out with May, and saw a person running, but
having no one in my shop I returned—I afterwards saw this cloth at the station—it is mine.
JAMES MAY . I live in Cornhill. I was talking to Mr. Wood—we received information—I ran to Bishopsgate Church, and up Cutler-street, and saw the prisoner with this cloth—I asked where he got it—he said he bought it—I took him and the cloth—this is it.
Prisoner's Defence. A man asked me to carry it, and said he would give me sixpence; I was out of work, and did so.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Four Months .
OLD COURT.—Wednesday, June 16th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Justice PATTESON; Mr. Ald. HUMPHERY; Mr. Ald. JONSSON; Mr. Ald. WILLIAM HUNTER; Mr. Ald. MOON; and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq., and the Third Jury.
1479. WILLIAM CLUETT , stealing, whilst employed under the Post-office, a post letter containing 2 half-crowns, the property of Her Majesty's Post-master General. Other Counts: varying the manner of stating the charge. Messrs. Clarkson and Bodkin conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM EDWIN BASELEY . I am a letter-carrier in the General Post-office, and have been so four years and a quarter—I was employed at the Stepney-branch office—the prisoner was a letter-carrier also employed there—on 19th May, about eight in the morning, we were both there in the course of our duty—he was engaged at a table sorting the letters that had come that morning from the General Post-office—I was at my own desk, that did not command a view of his situation—after the letters were sorted, he brought some to his desk, to throw them off into walks for delivery—I then sat immediately opposite to him—I saw him throw a letter upon a few old or dead letters, which were on the desk—I heard something jingle when the letter fell—it sounded like money—he threw it with the seal uppermost, and I saw that it was sealed with red wax—I then saw him take more dead and old letters from his side pocket, throw them on this letter, and then put the whole lot into his left coat pocket—as he was taking them up I noticed a large figure "4" on this letter in red ink—he then said to me, "Basely, I have nothing to give up this morning "—meaning no dead letters to go to the Dead-office—in about four minutes he went out of the office to deliver his letters—a letter addressed to Grove-road, Mile-end-road, would not be in his walk, but in Paveley's—on the prisoner's going out, I went to Mr. Chamberlain, the inspector of the district, and made a communication to him, and in about three minutes the prisoner was brought back to the office—Mr. Chamberlain asked him to show him the letters he had in his pocket—he produced nine old and dead letters from his pocket—Mr. Chamberlain asked me whether the letter I had spoken of was among them I said "No"—he then asked the prisoner whether he had any more in his possession—he said, "No"—Mr. Chamberlain said he must see further, and was about to put his hand into the prisoner's pocket, when the prisoner put his own hand in and pulled out this letter (produced)—it is the letter which 1 had previously seen—I said so—it was sealed with red wax, and the figure '"4" was on it—
he had in bis bag the letters which he had to deliver in his own walk—they were separate from this—he was then detained in custody.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. I see the name of "Baseley" is on this letter. A. I wrote that by Mr. Chamberlain's order, when he asked if I could swear to it—that was after it was delivered up by the prisoner—this letter was io the walk of another carrier, who is now at the office—I can-not say how near he sat to the prisoner—the carriers are allowed to keep dead letters for a week—there are a good many sailors' wives and persons whom it is difficult to find in that district, and, sometimes, when a vessel is not in we keep letters till she is in—we sometimes keep them two or three weeks—I do not know whether the letters that were taken from his pocket are here—I could see him distinctly from where I was sitting, and he could see me through the wires that were between us—a person named King was sitting on one side of me—I do not recollect who was sitting on the other—there are partitions between us—you can only see the person opposite you; not those at the side, unless you look on one side—the wires are crossways, in squares large enough to put two fingers through—I have no doubt that I saw the "4"—I noticed particularly that the letter was sealed with red wax—I saw both sides of the letter—I had never seen the letter before—it ought to have gone to Paveley—I had seen him that morning—I passed him coming into the office, and I saw him. beside me sorting the letters on the same side as I was, on the same side of the desk and opposite to the prisoner—it was after that I saw this transaction—Mr. Chamberlain sent a letter-carrier after the prisoner—I have been reported twice during the last twelve months—it may be three times—once for detaining letters, and twice for impudence to the inspector—I have not been reported oftener than three times in the last twelve months—I was reported once for drunkenness two years ago—I was said to have detained three letters—Mr. Sculthorpe has never cautioned or reprehended me—Mr. Smith did for the same thing about seven weeks ago—I was never charged with dishonesty—I went and delivered the letters that I detained—I was put oil duty for it—I have not heard and do not know that the prisoner has petitioned that he might be removed from my walk, or I from his—he may have done so—I never heard a word about it before this—I have quarrelled with him once or twice about little things, but not lately—the last was about two months back—that was about a letter of Mr. Saull, which he ought to have delivered at ten o'clock, instead of which I had it in my possession at two—I had no right to have it in my possession at all—there was nothing in it—he gave it to me at two, with the other missorts—I suppose he thought to get me into a scrape—I think he had some malice towards me—it was Mr. Saull who reported me to the inspector—the prisoner never reported me, nor have I been reprehended on his complaint—I was not suspended on Mr. Saull's complaint—I have not been charged with any offence to my knowledge—I was never charged with taking a pair of browsers—I believe my wife took them away in mistake, when we were moving—the party fetched them back while I was out, and laughed about it.
MR. BODKIN. Q. How long did you detain these letters that you were blamed for? A. For one night-—I had delivered them before I was reported—none of them contained money—no part of the wire-work was large enough for a letter to pass through—the prisoner had been sorting letters at the table—when the letters first come in they are put on the table to be sorted—all the carriers do not assist in sorting—they sort them to the different pigeon-holes to which they belong.
Branch Post-office—it was my duty to deliver a letter, addressed "Gross-road, Mile End-road."
Cross-examined. Q. Did a similar letter to this one, with money, come monthly? A. It used to come frequently—I cannot say whether monthly or weekly—it was a well-known writing, and known to contain money—we have marked divisions for each walk to sort the letters into, and we take ourletters out of those boxes—they are sent from the General Post-office in agreat bag tied up in large bundles—they are then untied and sorted, and placed in the boxes according to the districts—each carrier takes a bundle and unties it—the bundle may contain letters for his walk and for others also—I saw Baseley there that morning—he was not very near to me.
COURT. Q. Then it is not extraordinary for a letter-carrier, while sorting, before he gets to his desk, to have in his hand letters for sorting which do not belong to his walk? A. It sometimes happens by mistake—the letters come in packets of 200 or 300, not sorted.
MR. BALLANTINE to WILLIAM EDWIN BASELEY. Q. Did you hand over any letters to the prisoner that morning? A. No, not afterwards—I did hand him some letters that morning, after they had been thrown on his own walk—after I saw him in possession of the letter, and before 1 gave information—I might have given him about thirty; they were for his walk—there were no dead ones among them—they had come that morning, and I got them from the sorting-box—I handed them over the railing, after he had left the sorting-table, and after he had come to his desk—it is a common occurrence to get the letters from the sorting-boxes—I found letters among mine which belonged to him—upon my oath, I did not among those hand over this letter to him.
WILLIAM CHAMBERLAIN . I am an inspector of letter-carriers at the Stepney Post-office—the prisoner has been employed there some time—his district was Limehouse—I know Baseley—I was present when the prisoner left that morning—a communication was made to me about two minutes after that, I sent for him back again—he returned—I told him that it had been intimated to me that he had a letter that did not belong to him—he said he had not—I requested him to let me see what letters he had—he took nine dead letters out of his side-coat pocket, and told me that was all he had—they do not carry letters for delivery in their pockets, but these were dead ones—I did not ask to see the bag—I asked Baseley if he saw the letter that he spoke about among those—he said, "No," and I said to the prisoner, "I must see further," and was in the act of putting my hand into his left-hand coat pocket, when he put his own hand in, and took out this letter—I asked him how it was he had that—he said he did not know he had it—it was sealed—I told him he must go with me to the General Post-office, and I took him to the president, Mr. Sculthorpe, in whose presence he was further searched—a letter addressed as this is would not belong to his delivery, and he had no right to have it—he would have the opportunity of taking such a letter while sorting—there is no particular bundle for each man to sort, but each of them take a bundle from the bag, for the purpose of sorting into the different districts—this letter ought to have gone to the Mile End district—the prisoner would have no right to have such a letter about him.
Cross-examined. Q. Supposing a person took out dead letters on his walk he would return them at the end of the day, if the parties to whom they were directed, were not forthcoming? A. That would be his duty—they ought to be given up every hour, and taken out every hour—the letter was in his uniform coat pocket, which is a large pocket.
MR. BODKIN. Q. Are the dead letters those where the parties to whom they are directed cannot be found? A. Yes—they are brought back to the office and should be given up every hour, and then would go to the dead letter office—it is not the custom to take them out time after time—if they are General Post letters, and the person could not be found they would be delivered back on the first Monday or Thursday after—if they do not find the person the first time, they take them out again—they keep them in their possession in the interval—there is a drawer on purpose—if it is a London district letter it is given up the next time they come into the office—they should not carry out such a letter twice—letters with money in them are treated just the same—this letter was opened at the Police-court in my presence by Mrs. Foster, to whom it was addressed—it had money in it.
WALTER ROBERTSON SCULTHORPE . I am President of the London District Post-office. The prisoner was brought by Mr. Chamberlain to the General Post-office on 19th May—Mr. Chamberlain in his presence told me he had a letter in his pocket containing money, and that when he was asked to produce it he did not—he took out other letters which are termed old letters, leaving this one containing money in his pocket—I asked the prisoner how he accounted for the letter being in his pocket—he said he did not know it was there—I said, "You could not have it in your pocket without knowing it, it is so heavy"—he then said, "It is the first offence I am guilty of"—I then gave him into custody, and gave instructions to search him and his house.
Cross-examined. Q. Are those the very words he used? A. Yes, "It is the first offence I am Guilty of"—it was not, "I was ever guilty of"—(looking at his deposition")—I see it is so here—I may be mistaken—I believe the prisoner has borne a good character—he has been four years in the em-ployment, and I believe he has never been reported—I never heard of his having made a complaint against Baseley.
JAMES GILSOK FOSTER . I live at 16, Grove-road, Mile End-road. On 18th May, I was at Birmingham, and sent this letter to my wife enclosing two half-crowns in it—I took the money to the Post-office, and paid 4d. postage.
COURT to W. E. BASELET. Q. Were you in the habit of sorting letters for the prisoner? A. No—I have given him letters for his walk without putting them into the pigeon-hole—there are no pigeon-holes at the desk—it was at the desk belonging to his walk that I gave him the letters on this morning—I am quite positive I did not give him this letter—I saw this letter after I gave him the others—I mean before.
GUILTY. Aged 24.—Strongly recommended to mercy on account of hischaracter. — Transported for Seven Years . (There was another indictment against the prisoner.)
GUILTY.— Judgment Respited.
(There was another indictment against the prisoner upon which no evidence was offered.)
1481. EDWARD BENJAMIN VIDLER , feloniously forging an order for payment of 360l., with intent to defraud John Taylor and others: alsoembezzling—44l. 18l. 1d.; the moneys of Edwin John Hall and another, his master; to which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 27.— Transported for Ten Years .
MR. PARKY conducted the Prosecution.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Have you the check? A. Yes (produced)—I got it from the bankers.
JOHN HYNAM . I am a blacking and ink manufacturer, of Prince's-square, Wilson-street, Finsbury. The prisoner was in my employ—the nature of his employment was inserted in a memorandum prior to a bond which he was to give—we sent him a draft of the bond, but he never returned it—I have not got the memorandum—I signed it, and he took it with him—I believe he signed it too—the arrangement was entered into when he began to be employed by me the first time.
MR. BALLANTINE contended that the witness could not be asked the nature of this agreement, the agreement itself being the best evidence of its contexts. The COURT: "This comes within the general rule, that you cannot give evidence of the contents of any agreement, otherwise we should fall into that great difficulty, the fallacy of human recollection." The prisoner was therefore
NEW COURT.—Wednesday, June 14th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. JOHNSON and Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Fifth Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 48.— Confined One Month .
GUILTY . Aged 30.— Confined Nine Months .
GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined Six Months .
MR. RYLAND conducted the Prosecution.
MARGARET TAPE . I am single, and live in Ann-street, Westminster. On 31st March I was in Orchard-street, with a young woman who is not here—I saw a school of children walking—I said to the person with me, "Is not that
the ragged school?"—she laughed—I said to her, "What are you laughing at?"—she still laughed, and I laughed—the prisoner crossed over to me, and she said, "What are you laughing at?"—I said, "It is nothing to you"—she said, "I don't know that," and she undid her hand from her apron and struck me on the eyebrow with a white mug—it bled very much—her mother told her to run, and she did—she endeavoured to strike me a second time, and the officer came up—I was taken to the hospital—I was there till last Thursday—I had not challenged the prisoner to fight, I only said it was a matter of indifference to her what I was laughing at—I did not strike her.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. I believe you came out of the hospital again? A. Yes; next day—they wanted me to stop, but I would not—I had a comfortable home, and I went to'it—I took a little gin there—the prisoner's mother called on me, and gave me 155., and the next day she gave me three sixpences and one bad one—she came to me on Sunday, and said, would I leave off going to the hospital, she would pay for a doctor—I knew no better, and did so—I went to the mother's house, and she took me to Horseferry-road, to a doctor—he took off the poultice and put on a plaster—I said, "Are you doing right?"—he said, "Yes"—I do not know who the Magistrate was that I went before—the mother said she knew her daughter had done wrong—she came to me three times before I took the money.
REBECCA HENDERSON . I am the wife of Thomas Henderson. On 31st March I was in Orchard-street, a little before one o'clock—I saw Tape laughing at the ragged school—the prisoner came over and said, "What are you laughing at?"—Tape said, "Not at you"—the prisoner took a white pot and struck her with it on the forehead—she bled a good deal—the policeman came up, or the prisoner would have struck Tape again.
ABRAHAM WRIGHT (police-serjeant, B 10.) I was passing the end of Orchard-street—I saw the prisoner running down towards me, and Tape following her, with her forehead bleeding—the prisoner turned and put herself into a fighting attitude, and would have struck Tape again, if I had not caught her—I called another officer, sent the prisoner to the station, and took Tape to the hospital.
Cross-examined. Q. She would have struck her again with the mug? A. No, with her fist—the mug was broken in pieces—as soon as the prisoner saw me she turned round to run the other way, but Tape was there, and she could not—she said before the Magistrate that Tape struck her, and she struck her with the mug.
HENRY BUTLER . I am house-surgeon at the Westminster Hospital. Tape was brought there about half-past one o'clock—she had a severe wound on the right side of the forehead, just over the eye-brow—it bled a good deal—she remained there only one day, but she left without the consent of the medical attendant—she attended two or three days as an out-patient—she came about twelve days afterwards, and was admitted with erysipelas, and was there nearly five weeks—when she left I told her not to get drunk.
GUILTY of an Assault. Aged 17.— Confined Three Days .
GUILTY . Aged 28.— Confined Six Months .
GUILTY. Aged 21.—Reccommendcd to mercy. — Confined One Months
(The witnesses did not appear.)
NOT GUILTY .
JOHN PLUMMER . I am a brewer of Chelsea. The prisoner was in my service to collect money—he should balance his account on Saturdays, and pay me all moneys due—if he received on 13th March 5l. 10s. of Mr. Paternoster, or on 8th May 3l., or on the same day 3l., he has not paid me—I have his book here.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Did he keep the book? A. Yes—he used to keep a small balance, perhaps 5l., to pay the men—he might keep 10l. or 15l.—he could not pay me till Monday morning—he generally paid it into the Bank—the banker's clerk is not here.
NOT GUILTY .
NOT GUILTY .
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Nine Months .
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Nine Months .
MR. PARRY conducted the Prosecution.
JAMES SILLEY . I live at No. 6, Brecknock-place, Camden-town. On 1st June, a little before one o'clock, I was passing St. Paul's-terrace, Camden-town—I saw Rooke come out of the door of No. 25, with the copper on his head, and Taylor come up the area—I followed them—I could not see a policeman—I saw Mr. Sanford, and told him—he stopped Rooke, and asked him what he had got—he said, something a man had just given him—I fol-lowed Taylor to Upper Seymour-street—I asked somebody to assist is taking him.
WILLIAM SANFORD . On 1st June Sillcy called my attention to Rooke—I tapped him on the shoulder, and said, "What have you there, young fellow?"—he said, "Something somebody just gave me"—I took him to the station—he had the copper on his shoulder, wrapped up in a cloth.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Rooke was walking very slowly? A. Yes—he looked as if he were going to take the copper away.
JOHN COOK (policeman, S 198.) I received the prisoners at the station—Rooke said some one gave him half-a-crown to carry the copper to Maiden-lane—Taylor said he knew nothing about it—I went to No. 25, St. Paul's-terrace, and fitted the copper in the hole—it fitted as near as could be—many of the bricks were pulled a way—this screw was found near the place, with which the copper appears to have been raided from its situation.
of Mr. Straugban—two other gentlemen are trustees with me—the house, No. 25, St. Paul's-terrace, belongs to us—this copper was fixed there.
Cross-examined. Q. Do you receive the rents? A. Yes, on behalf of myself and the other two trustees—the house was empty.
(Rooke received a good character.) TAYLOR— GUILTY . * Aged 17.— Confined One Year. ROOKE— GUILTY. Aged 17.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor. — Confined Three Months .
OLD COURT.—Thursday, June 15th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Baron ROLFE; Mr. Ald. GIBBS; Mr. Ald. JOHNSON; Mr. Aid. WILLIAM HUNTER; and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq. and the Fourth Jury.
JOHN FRIEND . I live at Eastbourne-terrace, Hyde-park. The prisoner was in my service about twelve months, and left about three weeks ago, without notice; he merely went out on a message—I missed a pair of boots—these are them (produced)—they were kept in the scullery.
HENRY DOWSETT (policeman, D 181.) I took the prisoner on 19th May, and told him it was for stealing a pair of boots of his master's—he said his mistress lent them to him, and they were on his feet—he had on these boots produced.
----FRIEND. I am the prosecutor's wife—I did not give or lend the prisoner the boots.
Prisoner. You asked me to go and pawn some plate for you; I said, "I have got these boots to pawn;" you said if I made haste back with the money I might go out for an hour or two; I did so, and you said I might go; I went to the theatre, got back late, and was afraid to come home.
Witness. It is entirely false.
NOT GUILTY .
Before Mr. Baron Rolfe.
MR. CLARKSON and SIR JOHN BAYLEY conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM HUMPHREYS MORTON . I am a clerk in the Three per Cent. Reduced Transfer-office, in the Bank of England. I produce an extract from the ledger, which I have compared with the original; it is correct—(this was a transfer of 1070l. 3s. 11d., Reduced Three per Cent. Annuities, by John Wilkinson and William Shepherd, to James Neatby Warner, on 6th April, 1843)—I produce the transfer-book—here is the transfer of the same amount of stock on that day—I attested the execution of it, but have no recollection of the transaction or the parties—I saw them sign the book.
CHARLES THOMAS JENKINSON . I am a solicitor, of 29, Lombard-street. In 1843 my offices were in Cannon-street—I was first acquainted with the prisoner in Feb., 1838—he then lived in Mint-street, Borough—I was concerned for Mr. Brown, his landlord's collector; that introduced me to him—he was behind with his rent—he said his son had recently married a lady entitled to some money, and he wished me to interfere to induce the executrix of Mrs. 'Faddy to advance a sum of money for his son, and referred me to
a Mr. Rivington, who I saw several times; but could not succeed until the prisoner's son and his wife became of age—the wife was entitled to the money under the will, but the minority of the son was the great obstacle—about Dec., 1838, the prisoner paid my bill for the trouble I had had—I hadno further instructions, and do not know whether the rent was paid or not—I saw no more of the prisoner till Jan., 1843, when he called on me, and said he and his co-trustee, under his son's settlement, were about making some disposition of the fund, and would I introduce him to my stock-broker—I referred him to Mr. Edwin Newton Bryant, and did not see him again till he was in Newgate.
Prisoner. I never called at your office in my life; I met you in the street. Witness. You called at my office.
EDWARD NEWTON BRYANT . I am a stock-broker, of 16, Throgmorton-street On 16th June, 1813, Mr. Jenkinson called on me, and introduced the prisoner, who said he wished me to sell some stock, and he would bring his co-trustee, William Shepherd, next day—next day I saw the prisoner, and the other man, at the Bank—I had caused a transfer to be prepared in the Bank-books—it was made to James Neatby Warner—I saw the prisoner sign it—the other party signed "William Shepherd"—I attested their signatures, and identify them—this is my signature—I gave them this check (produced) for 1, 016l. 13s. 6d.; I do not know to which of them—here is "William Shepherd" on the back of it—that was not written at my request,—I never saw the prisoner again till a few days ago, at Newgate.
OWEN THOMAS WILLIUIS . In June, 1843, I was a clerk in Messrs. Glvnn's banking-house—Mr. Brvant kept an account there—this is the book in which I enter checks which I cash, and the mode in which I cash them—in June, 1843, I cashed this check (produced), with a 300l.-note, No. 899929, dated 11th March, 1842; two 200l.-notes; 500l. in other notes; and 16l. 13s. 6d. in money—I have no recollection of the party—one of the 50l. notes was No. 08024, dated 8th Dec, 1842.
WILLIAM WYBURD . I am one of the inspectors of notes in the Bank of England. In 1843 I was a clerk in the money-teller's department, and kept a cash-book, in which I entered my transactions (produced)—this 300l.-note was presented to me on 30th June, 1843, to be cashed—the person told me his name was "Wilkinson," which he put on the note, as we always require—here is "J. Wilkinson, 26, Crispin-street."
----YATES (police-inspector, M.) I have known the prisoner since 1830, when the M division was formed—he was an inspector of that division, and continued so till 1835, when he went to the E division—he left in 1835 or 1836, quitted the police, and kept a fish-shop in Mint-street—I have seen him write, and believe the writing on this note to be his (a £50. note, No. 08024, T. V., dated 8th Dec, 1842, with "William Gilpin, 26, Crispin-street, Spitalfields," marked on it)—this "John Wilkinson," in the Bank transfer-book, is the prisoner's writing, and also this signature (indorsed on a deposit-receipt of the Gloucestershire Bank).
JOHN CRADDOCK . I am agent for the Northleach Branch of the Gloucestershire Bank—I gave the prisoner this deposit-receipt for 500l.—I think he paid in a 300l.-note, and a 200l.-note—(read—"Cirencester, Feb. 27th, 1843.Recived of John Wilkinson, £500, to be accounted for. For the Gloucestershire Banking Company, Henry Harriss")—I procured this receipt from Cirencciter.
Prisoner. Q. Whose money did I represent it to be? A. Your son's—I understood you had placed him in business at Cheltenham.
JOSEPH HALL . I am clerk to Edwin Savage Bailey, a solicitor, of Berners-street, Oxford-street, he has transacted the business of Mr. Carpenter Smith, who became a lunatic three years ago. I produce an indenture of settlement, dated 14th Dec, 1838, between the prisoner's son and Susannah Ann Dixon—it is a post nuptial settlement—the trustees are John Wilkinson and Samuel Shepherd.
CHARLES RIVINGTON . I am a solicitor, of Fenchurch-buildings. In 1838, I was concerned for Alexander Holfield, sole executor of Mrs. Judith Taddy—in that year I had several applications to advance money said to be due to the prisoner's son's wife; the prisoner came four or five times—I refused to advise my client to make any transfer of money until the execution of a settlement by the husband of the moneys left to his wife, on that wife and her children—she was a legatee of 2, 000l.—I required a post nuptial settlement to be executed by the parties—delay arose by their not being of age—this is the settlement (produced)—it was signed in my presence by the husband and wife and prisoner in my office, and attested by Mr. Carpenter Smith—this is his signature—500l. was advanced to the parties, which was not the subject of a deed—in the first instance the prisoner applied for 100l. during his son's minority, which was refused, and he came in Nov., on account of the daughter being ill in her confinement, and I gave him 20l.; and on 14th Dec, having invested 1, 500l. in the Reduced Three per Cents., in the names of John Wilkinson and William Shepherd, a settlement was executed, and the balance, about 511l., paid over to the prisoner, 376l. of it by check—l., was deducted for law charges—here is a power in this settlement to lend or make a further advance of 500l. to the prisoner—it is dated 14th Dec, 1838, and recites that the prisoner's son's wife being entitled to 2, 000l. under the will of Mrs. Taddy, and that Thomas Wilkinson and his wife having applied for payment, the executors had required that the legacy should be settled for the benefit of the husband and wife and their children, and recites the purchase of 1, 610l. 14s. 9d. Reduced Three per Cents., with power to the trustees to lend the prisoner 500l. on his bond.
Prisoner. I never signed any deed (the witness handed the deed to the prisoner); I believe this is my writing, but I forgot it; my son was not of age then; he did not become of age till the next 5th Dec. Witness. I have a certificate of his being of age.
WILLIAM SHEPHERD . I am a publican, of Dudley, Worcestershire. From 1825 to 1839, I kept the Grapes, Black man-street, Borough—the prisoner was then night-constable of St. Olave's, Borough, and afterwards inspector of the M division of police, and then he kept a fish-shop next door to me—he came there about 1835—we were on intimate terms—in 1837 his son Thomas married, and came with his wife to live with him in Mint-street—when his son became of age, he and his son asked me to be a trustee—I consented, and attended Mr. Carpenter Smith's office to execute the settlement—I understood that the son received 500l. when the deed was signed—we signed a power of attorney authorising Thomas Wilkinson to receive the dividends—in 1839, I was applied to to sell out another sum of 500l.—I agreed, and afterwards did so.
WILLIAM SHEPHERD re-examined. This is my signature to this transfer—the prisoner signed it also—I never transferred, or consented to the transfer of any more, directly or indirectly—I think the prisoner left the Borough in the same year—I understood he went to Birmingham—I afterwards
left and went to Dudley—I saw nothing more of the prisoner until I went to Birmingham, in 1842—he was then keeping a butcher's shop, in Dale-end, there—his son also kept a butcher's shop there, at another pat of the town—the prisoner told me that he was going to give up the shop, and going to London, for he could not get a living there—I believe the shop was closed at the time—I think there was no meat in the shop—I never saw him again till I saw him in gaol, at Bristol, in April I think—when at Birmingham, he took me to see his two grand-children—I saw those childern last Monday at Cheltenham—about four or five years ago, I was applied to by Mr. Carpenter Smith to transfer a further portion of the fund—I refused to do so—last Christmas I received an anonymous letter—that was the first, intimation I had that there was anything wrong with respect to this fund—In consequence of that, and from inquiries I made, I went to the Bank of England, and requested to be made acquainted with the state of the fund—among other things I saw this book—I see the name of "William Shepherd" subscribed here, as one of the parties to the transfer of 1070l. 3s. 11d.—it is not my signature—I know nothing about it—I never authorised the prisoner, or any one else, to subscribe that—I never had any communication with the prisoner on the subject—I had no communication with him till Christina, 1847—I did not know where he was.
Prisoner. Q. I believe when you were applied to, to sell out 500l., to let my son have, you said you would not consent to it without I could get him away from London, as he was going on at a random rate, and disgracing himself? A. Yes; I advised his leaving London, and said if he would, I would consent to advance the 500l.—I blamed you as much as him for leaving him in possession of the money—I was not aware, when that settlement was made, that your son was not of age.
CHARLES RIVINGTON re-examined. The prisoner produced a document to me about his son's age—before he produced it, he told me his son would be of age in Dec. 1838—I would not act upon his statement, and then either the prisoner or Mr. Carpenter Smith produced the document—the prisoner told me his son was of age, before he executed the deed, and it was on the faith of that that he got my check.
Prisoner's Defence. It is exactly the truth that has been stated; it is of no use in me to make a wronng defence, there was no intention of fraud; one of the executors under the will, said that he would throw the estate into Chancery, and he would have nothing to do with it, as they were married without consulting him; of course we did not like that, as my son had no means of supporting his wife, and I had no means of supporting them; I told him to agree to any proposal rather than do that; accordingly, everything which was proposed was agreed to, but the deed required execution before my son was of age; if be has been extravagant, and spent the money foolishly, I can't answer for that; this was done six years ago, and no person has ever been called upon to repay the money, and never will be; nothing was done on my part with the intention of depriving any person of their just rights; had my son applied for the money, I should then have said he had acted in a most rascally manner, and it would be an attempt to rob; but Mr. Shepherd will never be involved in any difficulty, nor the Bank of England, nor any one—(MR. CLARKSON stated that an application had been made to MR. SHEPHERD for re-paymert)—that was entirely without my knowledge; I have not seen Mr. Carpenter Smith these six years.
GUILTY . Aged 63.— Transported for life .
MR. CLARKSON and SIR JOHN BAYLEY conducted the Prosecution.
ARTHUR ROWLAND . I am in the employ of Messrs. Rowland and Sons, jewellers, 146, Regent-street. On Monday evening, 22nd May, between eight and half-past, the prisoner came there—my brother Donald was in the shop, by my side—the prisoner asked to look at some silver pencil-cases—he selected one at 9s. 6d.—he then asked to look at some wedding-rings—I showed him some, and he selected one at 10s.—he took out what appeared to be a 5l. note from his pocket, handed it to me, and asked me to change it—I did not give it him—I suspected it, and gave it to my brother—he looked at it, and said to the prisoner, "Will you walk with me as far as Mr. Packer's, in the Quadrant"—the prisoner consented, and they went together to Mr. Packer's—I followed them—Mr. Packer said, in the prisoner's presence, that he was the same man that had passed a bad 5l. note to him on the previous Saturday—my brother then had the note—he gave it to me back—ray brother, Packer, and the prisoner then went to the Vine-street Police-station, which is just opposite—I there took the date and the number of the note, and put my initials in pencil on the back—this is the note (produced)—I gave it the policeman, Thomas Mould.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. You are not mistaken about the time? A. No—I looked at a clock at eight o'clock, because I do certain things with the books at eight o'clock, and I know it was not half-past eight, because that is the time we shut up shop—there was a young man from Mr. Packer's shop before the Magistrate—he is not here—I gave the note to my brother directly I received it from the prisoner.
DONALD ROWLAND . On 22nd May I was in the shop with my brother—the prisoner came in, dressed as he is now—I had before that received an account of a person from Mr. Packer, and had been put on my guard that morning—after the prisoner had agreed for the purchase of the things, my brother handed to me this supposed 5l. Bank of England note—I looked at it—I walked between him and the door, and said, "You know where you got this note from, I suppose, and can account for it?"—he said, "Yes, I can"—I said, "You must come with me, if you please, to Mr. Packer's, in the Quadrant"—he said he would go, and walked towards the door—I said, "I must take your arm, if you please"—we then walked down the street together—I said, "Do not consider yourself in custody, because we are only going to have it explained"—I was fearful of going too far, and having an action brought against me—he said he would not consider himself in custody, but if that was the case, he thought that he could go without being held—I did not let go of him—I went with him to Mr. Packer's, who said he was the same man that had passed a forged five on him on the Saturday—the prisoner did not say anything to that—I never lost sight of the note—I had it in my left hand in my pocket till I gave it to my brother.
Cross-examined Q. What time was it? A. About eight o'clock—the conversation I have stated was in the shop and as we walked along—just as we were going out of Mr. Packer's door, the prisoner said, "I do not under-stand all this," or "I do not know what it is about," or something of that sort.
eight o'clock, by the two Mr. Rowlands and Mr. Packer, and given into of custody—I searched him, and found on him 8s. 10 1/2 d.—he stated to the inspectorthat his name was Pedro Germaine—he was asked his address, and he said he came from Jersey—Mr. Arthur Rowland gave me the note produced—Iput a mark on it—this is the same.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you, when you went before the—Magistrate, remember this conversation about Jersey? A. Yes.
NATHANIEL HARRIS . I am shopman to Messrs. Slark and Dare, iron-mongers, in Cockspur-strect. The prisoner came there on 22nd May, between seven and eight o'clock in the evening, dressed as he is now—he asked if we had got any plated candlesticks—I said, "No"—he said, "Then what have you got?"'—I said there were some metal ones in the window, and some bronze ones—he then turned round and said, "Have you got any table cutlery?"—I produced some balance-handled ones to him, 3l. a set—he said, "I do not like those; have you got any others?"—I then showed him half a dozen at 12s., which he said he would take—he asked if I could give him change for a 5l. note—I said, "Yes"—he gave me his name and address as Hall, Yere-street, Oxford-street—I repeated it to him, and then wrote it on the note in his presence—I gave him 4l. 8s. in change—this is the note (produced)—it purports to be a Plymouth note—it was sent to the Bank and returned as forged.
Cross-examined. Q. Is this your writing, "6, Vere-street, Oxford-street 5, 22, 48? A. Yes; this "W. S." is Mr. Slark's writing—I gave it to him next morning to pay into the Bank—I asked the prisoner for his address—I had never seen him before—I am confident he is the same person, by his dress—a good many gentlemen dress like that—I cannot tell how long he was in the shop—I should have known him if I had met him in the street—I know him by his dress and manner—I knew a person, now dead, very much like him, but he squinted—he came in like a man of business—Ipointed him out at the Police-court from amongst several others—I do not know whether any were dressed in the same way—I only know him by his dress.
COURT. Q. When did you see him at the Police-court? A. Last Friday week, I think.
SIR J. BAYLEY. Q. Did you take particular notice of him in consequence of his likeness to your deceased friend? A. Yes, I did; I have not the least shadow of a doubt that he is the man.
CHARLES PACKER . I am a jeweller, at 78, Quadrant. On Saturday evening, 20th May, between six and seven o'clock, the prisoner came to my shop, and said he wanted to look at some pencil-cases in the window, marked 5s. 6d.—he took one, and asked to look at some wedding-rings—he selected one at 10s.—he tendered a 5l. note in payment, and while I was giving him the change, he said, "I have put my name and address on the back"—I had not asked for it—this is the note (produced)—there is on the back of it, "Hall, Yere-street, Oxford-street"—I gave him the change—not liking the appearance of the note, I went down to the Bank of England the first thing on Monday morning, and they stamped it "forged"—I returned and informed my neighbours, and among others Messrs. Rowlands'.
Cross-examined. Q. How long was he in the shop? A. Twenty minutes perhaps—he did not decide on the pencil-case and ring directly—I have been very much punished by gentlemen taking things—I never saw him before—my young man was in the shop—he went before the Magistrate—he is not here
—I can swear to the pisoner by his general appearance and face—he had whiskers then, which he has not now—he had them when I saw him the second time.
Cross-examined. Q. You did not give this evidence before the Magistrate? A. I did not—I was subpœnaed.
JAMES BARTON . I am one of the inspectors of bank-notes at the Bank of England. These two notes, dated Plymouth, 16th Nov., are forged in everyparticular—there is no water-mark of the Bank of England on them—theyare both from the same plate—this one, dated Manchester, 16th Feb., 1846, is forged also.
Cross-examined. Q. Are they good imitations? A. No—I never heard of the Bank paying a forged note and refusing a genuine one—I do not know whether it has occurred or not—I have been there thirty-five years—the engraving is not like that of a genuine note—it is very badly executed altogether—(looking at a note produced by Mr. Payne)—this is a genuine note—to mypractised eye, I have no difficulty in discerning the difference—I see a good many thousands in a day—they might deceive other persons, I cannot say.
GUILTY . Aged 29.— Transported for Twenty Years .
GUILTY .— Transported for Twenty Years
(Edmund Turner, Esq., M. P., for Truro, gave the prisoner a good character.)
NEW COURT.—Thursday, June 15th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. FAREBROTHER; Mr. Ald. JOHNSON; Mr. RECORDER; and Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE.
Before Mr. Recorder and the Sixth Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 34.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined Six Months .
JANE GARDNER . I am the wife of John Gardner, of Francis-street, West-minster. The prisoner was in our employ, to carry milk, and to clean the shop—on 24th May I marked a half-crown, and put it into the till—therewere shillings and sixpences there—the prisoner came in, and in ten minutesthe half-crown was gone—I accused her—she said something—I said it wasof no use to deny it; I would get an officer—she then put her hand intoher pocket, and gave it me—this is it—I have known her two years.
Prisoner's Defence. I picked it up behind the counter; my mistress wasstanding by, and asked me to give it her; I did so; I have lived in herservice two years, she has been in the habit of laying marked money in myway to try my honesty; I have always given it to her, and should have doneso in this instance, but she had not asked me for it.
GUILTY . Aged 35.— Confined Three Months .
GUILTY . Aged 22.—And received a good character.— Confined Four Months.
SARAH SMITH . I am wife of Thomas Smith, of Hippodrome-stables, Notting-hill, and deal with Mr. Lintott for bread, which the prisoner delivered—I paid him 1l. 2s. 11d. on 20th April—he put his name to this hill (produced), and marked it "Paid."
CATHERINE PEACOCK . I am wife of Richard Peacock, of Ladbrook-grove, Notting-hill. Mr. Lintott supplied me with bread—on 5th Feb., 4th March, 7th May, and 9th May, I paid the prisoner the weekly bills—he receiptedthis book—(produced.)
CHARLES THOMAS LINTOTT . The prisoner was my journeyman elevenmonths—he has not accounted to me for 1l. 2s. 11d. from Mrs. Smith; orfor 18d., 2s., 18d., 2s. 6d., and 1s. 3d., from Mrs. Peacock—here is his nameto those sums—it is his writing.
GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Three Months .
MR. HUDDLESTON conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM RANSON . I am a cow-keeper, of North-street, Manchestersquare—Wickens was in my service up to 21st May—I had formerly dealtwith Spice—I sold him milk—the last transaction was on 19th Feb., 1837, when I warned him not to come to my place any more—I suspected, andinstructed a policeman to watch—on 21st May last I was called up, and wentto my shed, and found Spice in the yard with a policeman, and Wickens undera cow, milking her—I said, "Now, Luke, you will leave that cow, and put onyour coat; you shall go"—he said, "For God's sake, master, forgive me; there is a woman here"—I said, "That has nothing to do with it; you shallgo with the policeman"—I saw some cans with warm milk in them, whichwas worth 2s. 8d.—I took it to the station—Spice then said, "Ranson, don't, I have got no one that knows my walk"—I said, "You ought to havethought of that before"—he had no permission to take my milk—he had nocows in my shed—they were all my own.
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. Your brother's shed is next door toyours? A. Yes—his business is distinct from mine—I do not think he takesin cows to feed—Spice keeps his cows in Little Woodstock-street, three orfour streets from me—Bewley did not tell me he went into my brother's shedby mistake—it is wrong in the deposition.
WILLIAM BEWLEY (police-sergeant, D 20.) I received instructions from Mr. Ranson to watch his shed, and on Sunday morning 21st May, saw Spiceat the end of South-street—he went into North-street, to Mr. Ranson's shed, looked round, went in, and closed the door—I listened, and heard him milkinginto cans I only heard one person there—I went away a little distance—he came out in about twenty minutes with two cans—I followed him, miked alongside of him to the end of South-street, and then said, "Is yourcow in William Ranson's shed?"—he said, "Yes, I have two stand there"—I said "You must go back with me, and satisfy Mr. Ranson that two ofyour cows stand there"—he immediately attempted to throw the milk over—I caught hold of the strap, and then he said he would take it quietly back—there was eight quarts in one, quite warm—one was empty—I took him tothe shed, and saw Wickens there—as soon as he saw me, he said, "For God'ssake don't send for my master, I shall be ruinated"—I asked him if Spicebad been in the shed—he said, "No, nobody has been there"—Spice madeanother attempt to throw the milk over—policeman 143 came up, and I sentfor Mr. Ranson—Wickens kept milking the cows until Mr. Ranson came—Ihive seen Spice near the shed nearly every morning for two months.
Cross-examined. Q. You went into Edward Ranson's shed first? A. Yes—the door was open, and I pushed Spice in when he was going to throwthe milk over, and took the cans from his shoulder—I did not tell Mr. Ranson Iwent in there by mistake.
MARY WALES . I am the wife of Thomas Walen. On 21st May, abouthalf-past four o'clock in the morning, I was in Mr. Ranson's shed milkingthree cows for my master—Bewley brought Spice in—Wickens was there—Mr. Ranson came and took him—he touched me on the arm, and said, "Mary, I am done, go on with the cow, and say you milked two"—when Igot under the cow I found she was milked.
Cross-examined. Q. Do you ever go into Edward Ranson's shed?A. No—I did not drink gin with Wickens that morning.
(The prisoners received good characters.)
SPICE— GUILTY . Aged 48.
WICKENS— GUILTY . Aged 28.
Confined One Month .
(There was another indictment against the prisoners.)
JANE BATTY . I live at 116, High Holborn. On 18th May, a little afterfive o'clock, I was at my shop door—there was a crowd looking at a horse—Honora Shea was on the kerb, and several people by her side, and the prisoner—I kept my eye on him—he went up towards her—I went up to tellher, and just as I got up, the prisoner had got the purse in his hand—I laidhold of him, and he threw it over my head—I kept him—Vant took him.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. You could not see what took place?A. I saw his hand in her pocket, and saw him take the purse out.
HONORA SHEA . I am single, and live at Broad-terrace, Bayswater. Iwas looking at a horse—Batty came up and laid hold of the prisoner whowas close to my side, and said in his hearing that he had robbed me—hedirectly heaved my purse out of his hand—I picked it up, and gave it to Vant—it had 19s. 10d. in it—I had used it five minutes before—this is it—(produced.)
JOSEPH VANT (policeman, F 124.) I saw a crowd where a horse hadfallen, and saw Batty holding the prisoner—before I could get hold of himhe threw this purse into the crowd—Shea picked it up and gave it to me—Itook the prisoner.
WILLIAM PRICE (policeman, F 140.) I produce a certificate of the prisoner'sformer conviction—(read—convicted July, 1845, of stealing a purse, transported for ten years)—I was present—he is the man—he was liberatedabout twelve months ago, I do not know why.
GUILTY . Aged 16.— Transported for Ten Years .
MICHAEL HYAMS . I am a cigar-manufacturer, at Albert-street, City-road The prisoner was my apprentice for two years—on a Sunday in May, I mis-sedthirty-five cigars from a tray—I took the prisoner's hat off, and foundlib. 1 1/2 ozs. of cheroots in it worth 8s. 6d.—I said, "What do you call this?"—he said, "It is nothing"—I said, "Where did you take them from?" andhe showed me the box—I called a policeman, while I was weighing them heran away—I did not see him again till last Sunday week, when he gave himselfup, and said, "Here I am, you can do as you please with me."
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. You treated him with great confidence?A. Yes—I have eight apprentices.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 18.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined One Month.
GUILTY. Aged 19.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Fourteen Days.
GUILTY . Aged 27.— Transported for Ten Years.
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Nine Months.
OLD COURT.—Friday, June 16th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. BARON ROLFE; Mr. Ald. HUMPHREY; Mr. Ald. WILLIAMHUNTER; Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE; and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq. and the Third Jury.
JONES pleaded GUILTY . Aged 17.
HANCOCK pleaded GUILTY Aged 21.
Transported for Ten Years.
GUILTY .— Transported for Seven Years.
GUILTY . Aged 30.— Transported for Seven Years.
Before Mr. Baron Rolfe.
GUILTY .— Fined Twenty Shillings.
(MR. CLARKSON offered no evidence.)
NOT GUILTY .
1515. JOHN KELLY and GEORGE KING , feloniously cutting andwounding Samuel James Vaughan on the left hand and head, with intent toprevent their lawful apprehension.—2nd COUNT; with intent to do grievousbodily harm.
MR. PLATT conducted the Prosecution.
SAMUEL JAMES VAUGHAN . I am a steel and copper-plate printer, at 28, Gloucester-street, Cambridge—heath—I used to live at 6, Gloucester-place, Hackney-road—I removed nearly all my things from that house on Wednesdaymorning, 24th May, secured the house, and kept the key in my possession, intending to go back to remove the other things—on the next night, 25th, about ten o'clock, I returned to the house, intending to take away afew other things—there is a court-yard in front of the house—I saw a lightover the door, and heard steps in the passage—as I advanced to the door itwas opened from within by Kelly, who came out—I said, "What do you dohere?"—he said he found the door open and went to shut it—I laid hold ofhim—King then came out of the house, and seeing Kelly held by me, hestruck me on the side of my head with his fist—Kelly was then trying to getaway from me—we got outside the court-yard, and King took from his pocketa large stone and struck me at the side of the head with it—it cut me verymuch indeed—my head began to bleed—I still held Kelly—King kept hallooingout, "Let him go; Jet him go;" and I kept hallooing, "Police"—King then took a crow-bar out of his pocket and tried to hit me with it, but Iguarded it off—he aimed it at my body—it cut my coat—I raised my armthree or four times to prevent the blows—he kept using that instrument while I was holding Kelly, and I received a severe gash on my left hand from it—Ihave not been able to use it since—I still kept hold of Kelly—Drinkwatercame to my assistance, and King ran away—he was afterwards taken, and Igave Kelly in charge—I did not let him go—King was taken a week after—Iwent back to my house, and found two tablets up stairs in the front-room, onthe floor, against the wall—I had left them in a cupboard—they had beenremoved, and a fishing-rod, which I had left in a corner in the front parlour, was removed into the middle of the room—I did not leave any one in thehouse the night before.
Kelly. Q. Did not you whisper to the officer at the station, while he
took the charge, and then say that something was removed? A. No—I did not tell you, when I seized you, that I was an officer—I am sure youare the man—I never let go of you from the time you put your foot out ofthe threshold—I swear to King also.
WILLIAM HENRY DRINKWATER . I am a dyer, at 7, Gloucester-place, Hackney-road—on 25th May, I was out to fetch some beer, shortly after ten o'clock—and saw the prosecutor and two men next door—I cannot swear to King positively—I can to Kelly—they were struggling together outside the door—Mr. Vaughan had hold of Kelly, who appeared to be trying to get away fromhim—I saw the other man strike Vaughan repeatedly—I could not see withwhat—he was bleeding—when I came up one of the men immediately ranaway—I got a policeman, and gave Kelly into custody.
Kelly. Q. Was not I standing in the road quietly with Mr. Vaughan?A. No.
ARCHIBALD GILLIES (policeman, N 98.) On 25th May I was fetched to Gloucester-place, and saw Vaughan holding Kelly—he gave him in custody, and charged him with being found on the premises—Mr. Vaughan's hand andhead were cut—I took Kelly to the station, and then went back to the housewith the prosecutor—I found these two tablets and a fishing-rod (produced) on the first floor front room—Kelly gave me an address, I went there andfound it was false.
WILLIAM EDWARD BALL (policeman, N 363.) From information, on 1st June, I went to a public-house, in Mile-end, and there took King into custody—I told him I took him for a burglary, and violently assaulting Mr. Vaughan—he said, "I know nothing about it "—I found on him a screw-driver and askeleton key and a latch key.
THOMAS SIMMONDS (policeman, N 201.) I was with Ball when he took King—as we went to the station I saw him throw something away, and foundthis skeleton key lying on the ground, about a yard from him, in the directionin which he had been passing—I saw this candle at the prosecutor's house, lying outside the door, and some matches a short distance from the pollings.
MR. VAUGHAN re-examined. These tablets are mine.
King's Defence. On 26th May, I and two friends went to Epsom races, and stopped there all day; we got home about eleven o'clock, and left thehorse and cart we had hired of Martin, in James-street, Bethnal-green; theyleft me at the door of my lodging, to go home; I expected them to be here; these keys are the keys of my street-door, my room door, and my box; thescrew-driver I use in my business; I know nothing about the other thing; the officer picked it up as we were walking along.
KELLY— NOT GUILTY . KING— GUILTY on 1st Count. — Confined two years. (Kelly was directed to he detained and indicted for the larceny.)
CHARLES BULL . I am a collar-maker, of 13, Brook-street, Holborn. On Sunday, 21st May, about seven o'clock, I went out, leaving no one in myapartments—I returned about half-past nine, and found the street-door open—I went up stairs, and saw a light over the top of my door; the first-floorroom—I called out to the second-floor lodgers to bring a light down—I triedthe door; it was fast—they brought a light—I do not know whether I or thepiisoner unlocked the door, I was so terrified, but I went in, and sawhim getting through the window, which was wide open—I had left it shut
—I grasped the tail of his coat; it slipped out of my hand—he jumped intothe streetI called "Stop thief!"—he was brought back in three or fourminutes—I am sure of him I missed a pin and brooch—a time-piece wasmoved from the mantel-shelf, and placed in a drawer, on a shawl, as if hehad been going to make a bundle—this pin, and brooch, and time-piece aremine.
RICHARD MOSS (policeman, G 195.) I was in the street, and saw theprisoner getting up—he had just dropped from the first-floor window—his hatwas rolling off the path—I pursued, and brought him back—he had this goldpin in his left hand, and this brooch in his pocket—I found a key on him, which opened the front door; a skeleton key, opening the front-room first-floor, and a latch-key.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY of Larceny . Aged 16.— Confined Eighteen Months.
WILLIAM LADSON pleaded GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined One Month .
MR. COOPER conducted the Prosecution.
JANE HASLER . I live at 47, Brompton-crescent. On the day the shoeswere missed I was in the Crescent, and saw the prisoners on the leads of No. 46—they tried to get into No. 47, but could not, and turned back, and into No. 45, where they live—about half-past seven o'clock in the evening I saw Frederick Ladson partly in No. 47—it was the window of the room where Pickering sleeps.
JOSEPH RIGBY . I am a Chelsea pensioner, and a shoemaker; I have astall in Brompton-row. On Saturday night, about three weeks ago, theprisoners came to my stall—William asked if I would buy a pair of shoes—I said, "Yes, if they suited me"—he showed me a pair of women's shoes, andsaid, "They are my mother's, and she can't wear them"—I gave sixpence forthem.
FREDERICK LADSON— NOT GUILTY .
1518. WILLIAM LADSON and FREDERICK LADSON were again indicted for stealing 1 watch, 1 key, 1 chain, and 1 seal, value 10l.; thegoods of Jean Pierre Mongellaz; in the dwelling-house of Alice Ozi; to which
WILLIAM LADSON pleaded GUILTY .— Confined One Month more, and Whipped.
MR. COOPER offered no evidence against
FREDERICK LADSON— NOT GUILTY .
NEW COURT.—Friday, June 16th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. GIBBS; Mr. RECORDER; and Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE.
Before Mr. Recorder and the Fifth Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined One Month.
GUILTY . Aged 28.— Transported for Ten Years.
GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined One Year.
GUILTY . Aged 42.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Two Months.
MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.
JAMES WILLIAM FAKIIEK , Esq. I am one of the Master of the Court of Chancery, and have chambers, with the other Masters, in Southampton-buildings, Chancery-lane. James Grant was messenger and porter—he hadthe sole care of the building day and night, had apartments in the building, and a very good salary—the House of Lords, on different occasions, have tocommunicate with the House of Commons—it is the custom to remit the"Reports of the Houses of Lords and Commons" to the Masters—these six"Reports" all have my writing in them—I kept them in a small retiring-room, to which James Grant has access—I did not give him leave to takeany of them—this was discovered by Sir William Hall missing some papers—I have seen one of these since Easter.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. How Jong has James Grant been there?A. About twenty-two years—he he had all the offices to keep clean, and wasobliged to employ charwomen—I understand he has been bailed, and has stillhad the custody of the offices, and I presume of the keys also—I keep all the House of Lords papers—I never parted with one—I may have taken somehome occasionally, and destroyed them—no one can get to the retiring-roomtut through my principal room—the clerks have no business there; no onehas but me and Grant—the books were on shelves—I believe Grant has badbooks of this sort given him by the other masters; I believe Sir Giffin Wilson has given him some, but I do not know of my knowledge—Mr. Smith was an officer of the public-office—he had a paralytic attack, and Ibelieve has since committed suicide—I do not know that he gave the prisonerpapers—there is a chief clerk, a second clerk, and two writers, employed inmy office—James Grant is the messenger for all—he bore a high character—I never knew that these papers were sold.
EDWARD FREWIN . I am a cheesemonger, of Holborn, and have been soseventeen years. I buy and sell paper—I have bought papers like these of Sarah and William Grant, and Ann Baker—about three weeks ago was thelast purchase—I cannot say when I bought this "Berkeley's Peerage"—Ibought thirteen pounds of paper of Sarah Grant, within the last three weeks, for 2s. 2d.—I should think within the last two years I have purchased Parliamentarypapers to the amount of 8l.—it was not all like this—there wasa considerable quantity of loose paper, statutes, and acts—I am not sure
whether any one was with Sarah Grant the last time she came; if it was anyone it was Baker—I have purchased Parliamentary papers of other personsto a great extent—about eight months ago I purchased some of a railwaycompany—I have not purchased much of Sarah Grant alone, because Bakeralmost always came with her, and I interrogated her very strictly.
JOSERH THOMPSON (policeman, F 11.) On 1st June I took William Grantinto custody in the messenger's room, and Pocock, who was with me, took Baker—I afterwards took James Grant—when the charge was made againstthe children, the father (James) stood forward, and said, "I wish to contradictthat charge; the children have not taken the paper, I gave it them"—Isaid, "You take a great deal on yourself; am I to understand you havegiven them the whole of the papers that were stolen from Mr. Farrer?"—hesaid, "Yes"—he was then charged with the other prisoners—the charge wasread over to him, and he said, "That is a lie; there was no paper takenfrom Wingfield's"—the papers taken from Mr. Farrer were mentioned, but notcharged on the sheet—I took Baker into custody, and in the presence of allthe prisoners I asked Sarah Grant if Baker was the woman that gave her thepapers—she said she was—she had said before, that the woman gave her thepapers—Baker said, "How can you be such a wicked girl to say I gave youthe papers?"—Sarah Grant said, "You did; did not you go to Master Farrer's chambers when I was ironing, and says you wanted a few halfpence, and took some papers?"—James Grant then said, "You had better holdyour tongue; you will get into a 'mess,' or 'a scrape'"—I then told themthey had better all hold their tongues, and they were charged.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. At the time James Grant said thatabout the children, he had not been charged? A. No—I got the six booksfrom Mr. Farrer's, three the same night, and three the next morning—hetook them from the steps, a place where Ire appeared to keep his waste paper—three of them were with a quantity of other reports—these other three aremarked; they were in a box or cupboard, detached from the loose paper—Icannot say whether they were lying together—I think I took them fromdifferent parts—I only looked for those that were marked—Mr. Farrerassisted me.
MR. PARRY to EDWARD FREWIN. Q. Did you say you sold these papers?A. I am not sure—I do not know these from others—I sold some, and theywere detected—all I bought were either from Baker or the children—I havebeen continually buying them from week to week for two years, or two yearsand a half—I bought some last Saturday week—I cannot tell which—Ibought about two-thirds of the paper from Baker or the children—I purchasedmost from Baker—she almost continually came—my shop is thirty or fortyyards from the master's offices—I have bought and sold paper ever since I have been in business—there was nothing at all suspicious about the paper—Parliamentary reports and papers form a large proportion of the waste paperthat is purchased.
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. Did Baker come alone? A. Yes, and sometimes with the children.
COURT. Q. You questioned her? A. Yes—there was rather more paperwhen Sir Giffin Wilson's chambers were cleared out—the children came atnight, and said that Mr. and Mrs. Grant gave them the papers—I boughtthem supposing they had the sanction of James Grant.
MR. PARRY. Q. Did they mention "Sir Giflin Wilson?" A. Yes—Idid not hear Mr. Smith's name till I was at Bow-street—I heard the name of Duckworth—Baker came more particularly with Sarah—they all said they
came by the authority of Grant, and they cleared out once a month or sixweeks—if I had seen the names, I should have inquired at the owner's, toknow whether there was such an authority.
JAMES WILLIAM FARRER, ESQ ., re-examined. I recollect using this booksince Easter, because I took it down, intending; to send it to a friend in the Temple—it was between Easter and Whitsuntide—there are forty differentoffices—tiiis room was my own—I should think there are four or five personin each office—I never saw Baker in my room—I believe she swept the lowerrooms—these books were in the upper part—I do not know that she was everin my room—Grant's was a superior situation.
MR. CLARKSON here withdrew from the prosecution with respect to BAKER, who was ACQUITTED .
ANN BAKER (the prisoner.) I am in the habit of working as charwomanat the chambers of the Masters in Chancery, which James Grant was office-keeperof—during the last two years I have taken papers and reports likethese to Mr. Frewin's shop—I have not taken any within the last three weeks—I have not been to his shop for nearly three months—I have not takensuch books as these there to my knowledge—what Mr. Frewin has stated hascalled to my mind that I went once by myself, and then he questioned me, and I said I would not take any more by myself—I have taken papers by Mr. or Mrs. Grant's authority—I never took any without their direction orsanction—when I have sold them at Mr. Frewin's, I took the money to Mr. or Mrs. Grant, whichever gave me the papers—I know Mr. Farrer's chambers—I never took any papers from there, or from any chambers; they havealways been given me down stairs, in Mr. Grant's apartments—I havereceived them when the clerks were there, and when they were not, when theoffices have been open, and when they have been closed.
COURT. Q. Look at those books which were taken from Mr. Farrer's.A. I have no recollection of taking these books—I never took any thatwere not delivered to me by Mr. or Mrs. Grant—I have at times paid Mrs. Grant for what I have taken, in presence of her husband—I accounted towhoever gave me the paper for what 1 received, without any profit to myself, except in one instance, when Mrs. Grant gave me 6d.
Cross-examined by MR. PARKY. Q. Were you in the habit of sweepingout the master's offices? A. Yes—they were swept thoroughly four times ayear—there has been a considerable accumulation of waste paper—I remember Sir Griffin Wilson leaving, and his place being thoroughly cleared out—Iremember Master Duckworth leaving, and Mr. Smith, the chief clerk—afterthose clearings I have taken papers to sell at Mr. Frewin's shop, close by—Imade no concealment of what I did—I took them through the street, any onecould see them—I had not to pass through the offices—the staircase is nearthe street-door—I came out of the door—there is a constant stream of attorneysand their clerks—I sometimes took large bundles and sometimes smallones—Mr. Frew in knew who Mr. Grant was—his shop is on the oppositeside in Holborn.
EDWARD FREWIN re-examined. I am not able to say whether these bookscame into my possession by Baker alone, or in presence of Sarah Grant, orby the hands of William Grant—they came by one or the other—I did notreceive them by any other person—two-thirds of the paper I brought throughthe children or Baker—the remaining third was very similar sort of paper andbooks—I have not bought the same sort of other persons of late—not since Easter.
NOT GUILTY .
1525. THOMAS QUAIFE and GEORGE GOODING , stealing 1 canvaswrapper, value 1s.; and 433lbs. weight of wool, 48l. 14s.; the goods of John Cooper: and SAMUEL FLETCHER , feloniously inciting them to committhe said felony, and receiving the said goods, well knowing them to have been stolen.
MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM BENJAMIN WEBB . I live in Barron's-buildings, "Waterloo-road—I know the three prisoners. Some days before 18th March I was applied toby a man named Askew—I received a sample of wool from him—I showedthat sample to Fletcher two or three days prior to 18th March—I cannotstate where it was—I think it was in the Borough—I told him I had a quantityof wool for sale, and asked if he would sell it—(I had been in prisonbefore; I am not aware that Fletcher knew that)—he said he could get ridof it—I did not tell him how much there was—I told him the parties wanteda shilling a pound for it—he told me he would give me an answer in thecourse of a day or two—he agreed to give a shilling a pound, and I was tolet the parties know that I could have that—I met Askew and told him Icould have a shilling a pound for the wool—I met Qaaife and Gooding in the Borough, on 18th March, at half-past seven or eight o'clock in the morning—there were two more persons with them, but Fletcher was not there—wetried to hire a cart in the Borough, but did not succeed—we then went on to Thames-street—we did not hire one there—I then stopped a cart on London-bridge—Quaife was with me, and another man who is not in custody got intothe cart, and went away with the carman, down Arthur-street—Fletcher was withus when we tried to hire a cart in Thames-street, but not being able to do so, he went on to the Minories—he said, if we got the wool, it was to be broughtover to the Tower-hill end of the Minories, and he would meet us, and hewas to pay a certain sum of money, at a shilling a pound, into Quaife's hand, assoon as he delivered the wool—after the cart was hired, which was driven bya lad named Spence, it went down Arthur-street—I lost sight of it there—Idid not see where it went—I did not direct where it was to go—it went into Upper Thames-street—that was in a direction towards Lawrence Pountney-lane—I placed myself at the corner of Arthur-street, in Upper Thames-street, on the opposite side to Lawrence Pountney-lane—I could see the corner of it—Gooding was about Mile's-lane—I did not see Quaife after the cart washired—I left him on London-bridge, perhaps thirty or forty yards from Mile's-lane—a person standing at the foot of London-bridge can see Mile's-lane—I stood where I was, for about five minutes; I then saw the cart, witha bag of wool in it, coming out of either Lawrence Pountney-lane or Duck's-foot-lane—it went up Arthur-street again, towards the Minories—I went upthe steps and saw the cart again—I could not see any one following it—whenwe got to the Minories I saw two persons, who are not in custody, and Quaifeand Gooding—I had not seen Gooding from the time I saw him standing at Mile's-lane till I got to the Minories—we waited there with the cart fortwenty minutes or half an hour, and then Fletcher arrived—the carman foundfault with our detaining him, and I told Fletcher of it—the Minories was theplace where Fletcher was to be prepared to pay the money to Quaife, and hewas not prepared—I told Fletcher he had better warehouse the wool, and seeafter Paying for it as soon as he could—he took the cart away to a streetwhich I do not know the name of, in New Commercial-street—he drew thecart into a gateway, and there deposited the wool—I did not go into thegateway—the money was not then forthcoming, and some of the party wentover to Fletcher to know when it would be paid for, Quaife then went, I
believe, to Tower-hill, and Gooding stopped opposite to where the wool wasdeposited—I got up to the bag, and I noticed there were some "threes" and aand a triangle on it—Fletcher then went away to the Minorios—abouttwo o'clock Quaife and I went to Trinity-square—we met Fletcher there—Itold him he had no occasion to Double himself any further about the wool, asit was sold—he said it was not right that it should be sold, and he called Childs, the officer—Fletcher said we had done him out of his regulars, and hedid not think it proper that we should have done it—I cannot recollect anythingelse that he said—when Childs came up he asked for an explanationand he went away with Fletcher, leaving me with Quaife—I had parted with Gooding an hour before that.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. You have been in prison? A. Yes—I got out on 11th May, 1847—I was in prison for two years for utteringa disputed order to obtain goods—I had not been in before that—thecarman Spence is here—he knew nothing of the matter—I hired the cart, and Quaife was with me—I do not know whether! was an accomplice inthis affair—I am not ashamed—it is no use being ashamed—I was askedto sell the wool by Askew—he is no particular friend of mine—I was not inthe robbery—I was asked to go and sell the wool—Askew is at home Ibelieve—I did not know it was a dishonest affair—I first learned that it was sosix or seven weeks ago—I was not in any robbery—from circumstances thathave turned out since I suppose the wool was not got honestly—I did notknow it was stolen—there are many things to be sold without being stolen—I knew this wool was to be sold by me—if I could sell it I was to send a cartto draw it away—I do not know where it was to come from—I made noinquiries about it—I thought it was to be purchased honestly: that I swear—Inever guessed it was to be stolen—I thought it had been bought, and was a perfectly honest transaction.
COURT. Q. Why did you not go with the cart if you were so near where youstopped? A. In coming down the hill the cart got before us—we werewalking down the hill, and the cart came on trot.
MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Then it was the horse's fault that you did not seethe transaction? A. I was not to know where it came from—a person who isnot in custody told me that—I do not know his name—I was not particularabout knowing where it came from—when I saw the bag of wool, I ratherexpected that they did not come rightly by it—when I saw Childs in Trinity-square, he said to me, "Do you know anything about this?"—I said, "That is my business not yours."
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. You hired the cart, and youhired the boy? A. Yes, the cart and boy were both mine—I told Fletcherhe had better warehouse the wool—I did not go into the yard—I left myown men, and my own boy, and my own cart, to go into the yard—I knewthe wool was left there—I went to Fletcher, and told him it was all gone, and he said he had lost his regulars—I knew the wool was gone, because Iwent with him to the yard, where he put it in—I was outside—nobody wentinto the yard but him and Quaife, and the boy—I did not put it in—Fletcherwent away about five minutes after they had put the wool in the yard—Istopped in the neighbourhood where the wool was left, in a street out of New Commercial-street—the wool was drawn out of the yard, where it wasleft, into another yard, by another lad whom I do not know—he drew it outin a truck—I did not ask him what he was doing with my wool—it was notmine—when I saw it in the truck I watched it—it went to another gateway, where Myets lives—I know Myers by seeing him there—when the article
was delivered he gave me five shillings, at a house opposite—I took the fiveshillings of course—Myers put the wool inside his gateway—I saw it whenit was opened—there was plenty of room to put the wool in—I was not in apublic-house till after the wool was drawn into the gateway—I did not goaway directly 1 got the five shillings; I stopped I dare say half an hour with Quaife, Gooding, and two more, who are not in custody—Fletcher was notthere—I think Myers paid for what we had to drink—I know I paid fornothing—I had the five shillings in my own pocket—before the wool hadgone down there, I thought something was wrong—I took the five shillingsand the drink, after I thought there was something wrong—I first spoke to Fletcher about it when I gave him the sample—he said he could get 1s. 3d. a pound for the wool, and he was to offer the parties who got the wool oneshilling and to share the threepence between him and me—I was certainlynot to do the other parties, but to act quite honest to them—I have been inprison, and I believe that is pretty well known in the neighbourhood where I live—I lived at that time in the Borough—I do not know that it was knownto Fletcher—he might have known it.
WILLIAM SPENCE . I am in the service of my father, Daniel Spence, of Beraondsey-street, a town carman. On 18th March I was with my father'scart on London-bridge—Webb hired me; Quaife was with him, and anotherperson who is not in custody—the other man got up in the cart, and rode to Lawrence Pounfney-lane with me—when we got there, I received a bale ofwool, which came from the loophole of Mr. Cooper's premises—I saw a manthere, but who put the bale in I cannot tell—the cart came up Arthur-streetwith the wool, and I there saw Quaife—the cart, went along Fenchurch-street, to the Minories—Quaife walked on the pavement, sometimes by the side ofthe cart, sometimes before or behind—I got to the further end of the Minories—they kept me waiting from three quarters of an hour to an hour—Fletcherthen came up—I complained of being kept—I said if they did not take thebale of wool out of the cart I would throw it into the street—the man whowas in the cart with me went and spoke to Fletcher—Quaife was in the Minories at that time, but I do not know whether he was along with them—I then went to a turning in New Commercial-street—I saw Fletcher go as faras Whitechapel—that was in a direction towards where I took the wool—when I got to the gateway I backed the cart in, and got out the bag—Quaifeand Webb were there, and a man who is not in custody—they assisted me tounload the cart, and the man who is not in custody paid me.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLAXTIXE. Q. How did you get to Lawrence Pountney-lane, did you trot? A. No, I walked all the way—I trotted ingoing home—Webb hired me—he and the man in the cart gave me directions—I do not know whether they knew one another—I do not recollect that Webb called him by any name.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. You drove into the yard, andthen Quaife and Webb helped to unload the wool? A. Yes—I am sure Webbwent into the yard—I do not know whose premises they were—I was neverthere before—I did not see Myers—I do not know where the other yard is—I did not see any truck—I left the wool in the yard—Webb and the other twopersons took the wool out and pitched it up against a wall—I then went away.
JOHN COOPER , the younger. I am clerk to my father, John Cooper—hehas large premises, running from Lawrence Pountney-lane to Duck's-foot-lane—we keep warehouses for containing wool. I know Gooding—he hadbeen employed as lately as the 8th of March in repairing the roof of our premises—on 18th April we received orders to weigh some bales of wool—I
missed two bags, Nos. 318 and 337—there was a triangle on No. 337 withan "F" in it.
WILLIAM THURSTON . I live in Adam-street, Kent-road—I was employedin doing the roof of Messrs. Cooper's warehouse—I recollect, as Gooding and I were parsing from the roof through the warehouse. Gooding said in ajocular manner to Cleverly. "D----n it, Jack, can't we take a bag ofwool?"—I said we would not know how to dispose of it; and one of the two, either Gooding or Cleverly, said we could dispose of anything—that endedthe conversation.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. You said nothing about it? A. No—I have been in Mr. Cooper's employ for six years—I had been employedthree days on the roof with these men.
WILLIAM CHILDS . I am beadle of Trinity-square. Between two and threeo'clock, on Saturday, 18th March, I saw Webb, Quaife, and Fletcher, in Trinity-square—they were disputing about a bag of wool—Fletcher called meand said, "I want you concerning a bag of wool," or "a bale of wool"—hesaid, "These two," pointing to Webb and Quaife, "have done me out of my regulars "—I said, "What is it all about; tell me, and I will see what I cando?"—I said to Quaife, "Do you know anything about it?"—he said, "No"—I turned to Webb, and said, "Do you know anything about it?"—he said, "That is my business, not yours"—I said, "I think it is a little my business; I should like to know a little more about it"—I said, "If you will nottell me, I shall not interfere;" and I walked a little way, and Fletcher said, "Come along; I think we can find where the wool came from"—we wentthrough Tower-street, into Thames-street, and into Old Swan-lane—Fletchersaid, "That is where the cart went down"—I went to all the warehousesthere, but I could not find anything of any wool being taken that morning—Isaid, "We will go and see if we can find where the wool went to"—we wentto a street out of Commercial-street, to a house kept by Adams—we saw Mrs. Adams—she said, "The wool is gone; the same party that brought ittook it away; if you had left a note with me not to let anybody have itbesides you, it should not have gone away"—Fletcher went and picked out Adams' boy—he asked him who took the wool away—he said, "The sametwo chat brought it, and two boys."
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Fletcher appeared to knownothing about it? A. Yes, he said, "Let us see if we can find anythingabout it, for I have a notion now something is wrong"—I said, "Do youthink it is stolen?"—he said, "I don't think it is"—Mrs. Adams said he wasa very foolish man not to leave a note—she said the persons who brought ittook it away, and she did not know anything about it—I know Mrs. Adamsvery well, and I know that yard belonged to some one of the name of Adams—I do not know the other place where the wool went to in the truck—welost it there—Webb has never given me the least information where thetruck went to.
Jury. Q. How came you to go to that place in the Commercial-road?A. I went with Fletcher—before going there, he said, "Let us see if we canfind that anybody has lost it," and I inquired all about Thames-street.
MR. SAMUEL ROBERT GOODMAN . I am clerk to the Lord Mayor. When Webb had been examined in chief, he was cross-examined by Fletcher—Itook down the questions put by Fletcher, and the answers given by Webb—the statement was then read over, and the questions and answers—the questions
were these—(reading)—" Cross-examined by the prisoner Fletcher. When you met with me, and brought this sample to me, you brought twosamples" of wool, a coarse sample of four sacks, and this sample, did you not?Did you say that the bag of wool laid in the Borough when you left thesample, and that it could be seen and sent to any place in England? On the Saturday morning you have been speaking of as the day the wool was to bedelivered, did you order me to meet you at Arthur-street about eight o'clock?Did you bring a person and introduce him as the owner of the wool at thattime in Arthur-street? Did you not also bring another person shortly afterto me, who you said was the proprietor of the wool? At that time, did I notfell you that I had sold the wool to a person of the name of Harris, and ifyou did not let it be, as Saturday was the Jews' Sabbath, there would be somedelay in the delivery of the wool? Did you send a party (one of them two) along with me to Mr. Harris, to receive the money for the wool? At thetime you have been speaking of, the wool being in the Minories, did you notsend these two men with me, and the stouter man of the two was to receivethe money? After the time you have been speaking of, as having been to-Myer's and seen the wool disposed of, did you not come down with the stoutgentleman into Trinity-square? Did you not say when you came there thatit had been a very unfortunate piece of business; that the wool had gone in thesame channel that a whole sheet had gone before? Did I not then call anofficer who was passing by, and the stout man and you ran away immediately, an officer of the name of Childs? Did you go with the cart to Adams' yard?Did you send the two men with the cart to unload it there? What did youmean when you said the wool was two hours in my possession? Have youmet with the fourth person, because there were four persons when you werein the Minories? Have you met with the person in the chequered short coatwhom you represented as the real owner of the wool? Was he there a shorttime with you?
NOT GUILTY .
OLD COURT.—Saturday, June 17th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. JUSTICE PATTESON; Mr. Ald. HUMPHERY; Mr. Ald. WILLIAMHUNTER; Mr. Ald. SALOMONS; and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq. and the Fourth Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 30.— Transported for Seven Years.
THOMAS COWELL . I am a butcher, of Knightsbridge-terrace, St. George's, Hanover-square. It is my dwelling-house—on 12th June, in the evening, Iwas in the parlour behind my shop—I could see any one who came in, unlessthey crawled in—my servant called out—I went to the shop, and saw theprisoner about half-way across it, going out—I called, "Stop thief!" andsaw him stopped—I brought him back, and gave him in charge—I am surehe is the boy—I had a cash-box under a desk in the counting-house, betweenthe shop and where I was. with 26l. in sold, four 10l. and five 8l. notes, a
check for 10l., and 3s. 6d. in it—when I came back I found it removed—thisis it (produced.)
ANN MORKISS . I am Mr. Cowell's servant. I was coming up from thekitchen, and saw a boy kneeling in the counting-house with the cash-box inhis hands—I said, "What are you doing?"—he made no answer—I calledout—he put it down and ran away—my master ran after him.
WILLIAM MILLER (policeman, B 32.) I took the prisoner. He triedto get away, and beckoned to two other boys to come up to him—there wassome sawdust on his knees, and also on the floor of the counting-house.
Prisoner's Defence. I was running to stop the boy, and they caught me.
GUILTY . * Aged 15.— Transported for Seven Years.
Before Mr. Justice Patteson.
GUILTY of an Assault. — Confined One Year .
MESSRS. BODKIX, CLERK, and COOPER conducted the Prosecution.
ROBERT MASON . I am a chandler, in George-street, St. Giles's. on Sunday afternoon, 30th April, I was in my shop, and saw a policemancoming towards my shop—the prisoner, Jerome Coakley, was then standingopposite, about the centre of the street—I then saw them standing near eachother, and Jerome was in a sparring position, opposite the policeman, larking, as I thought—something attracted my attention in my shop for asecond or two, and the next thing I noticed was seeing them having hold ofeach other, in the act of wrestling—they fell together on the ground—Iturned my eyes to my shop again, and the next thing I saw was both standingup again—they had hold of each other the same as before—I afterwardssaw them both on the ground again the policeman was underneath; butafter some little struggling he got uppermost—I then saw the prisoner Patrick strike the policeman on the right side of the head with a piece ofwood like a policeman's staff; I cannot swear that it was a staff—I did notsee where he got it from—he had been standing four or five yards off whilethey were struggling—the policeman's hat was off at the time.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. You only saw one blowgiven? A. That was all—I do not know what became of them after, for Iturned into my shop—I was not near enough to see whether the policemanhad hold of Jerome by his throat—they were in the middle of the street—Idid not hear any one say that he was strangling the man—I am very sorryto be at all mixed up in the affair—I did not hear the crowd say that thepoliceman was ill-using the man—there might have been from half-a-dozen toa dozen people—I did not hear the policeman calling a man of the named of Sealan—I believe Patrick wished to relieve Jerome from the grasp of thepoliceman—he was on Jerome, in a leaning position—I did not see where hishand was—I did not notice whether he was kneeling on him—I did not see Jerome strike the policeman—I knew Patrick before, and his relatives andfriends many years as neighbours—he has been a well-behaved man up tothis time—I have known him six years—as far as I know, he has been asober well-conducted man.
CHARLES JAMES ENNOS . I am apprenticed to a wine-merchant, at 39, Holborn. On 30th April, about a quarter-past one o'clock, I was passingalon (Oxford-street—my attention was drawn to George-street—I saw Jerome Coakley and a policeman struggling together on the ground—I thensaw Patrick Coakley take the constable's truncheon out of his pocket, andstrike him on the head with it twice—the constable had no hat or cap on—Patrick then ran away.
Cross-examined. Q. You did not see Jerome do anything? A. No; theconstable was on Jerome when Patrick struck him—I did not see where hehad hold of Jerome—I could not see—there were about a dozen people there—I did not hear any one say the policeman was strangling the man—Patrickthrew the staff down and ran away.
MARY NOWLAND . I live at 1, Church-lane, which comes to the corner of George-street. On Sunday, 30th April, about one o'clock, I was at myhouse, and saw a policeman go past with a man in his custody, who appearedto be a beggar—there had been a quantity of people standing round, and one man was reading a newspaper in the middle—I did not see Jerome Coakley at that time, but as the policeman returned I heard some angry wordsbetween him and Jerome Coakley, and Jerome said, "You will not take me fornothing"—the policeman turned round on his saying that, and drove him backto my door—a struggle ensued; they struck one another, and the policemantried to catch him by the neck, and they both fell down, the constable undermost—they got up again, and fell down again, and I saw a short man, in aflannel jacket, strike the policeman twice with a stick, while the policemanhad Jerome down, with his knee on his chest, and his hand in his handkerchief—I could not see who the man was, but I heard the people round saythat he was the other one's brother—I know Jerome very well, but not theother—I could not see where the policeman was struck; there were people before me.
Cross-examined. Q. You did not see where the stick fell? A. No—when it did fall the policeman had Jerome down with his knee on him—Iwas looking through the window—the policeman first tried to lay hold of Jerome and drive him away—the people called the constable names fortaking the beggar—I did not see Jerome there then—they were not readingthe newspaper when the policeman had hold of Jerome—I did not see Jeromestrike the policeman until he drove him—he then turned back to a door, andsaid, "You will not take me for nothing," and struck him as he was goingto get him by the collar—I did not hear people say the policeman was stranglinghim—I did not go from the door—there was a crowd collected—I didnot hear the policeman speak to a man named Sealan; I was so alarmedthat I did not notice what took place.
JAMES BLOOM (policeman, E 98.) On 30th April I saw Daniel Harker Monk at the police-station, in Clark's-buildings—I was called about tenminutes or a quarter to one o'clock to George-street, and saw him holding Jerome Coakley, who also had bold of him—he was about half up, as if risingfrom the ground, and bleeding very much from the mouth and back of thehead—the blood was streaming down his coat—he was unable to walk—hesaid, "Secure him, for they have almost killed me"—I did not see Patrick.
ESTHER ELLIS . I am sister of the deceased's wife; his name was Daniel Harker Monk—I came from the country to attend him while he was ill—Mr. Clayton, the surgeon, attended him—all the time I was with him he wasinsensible—I came on 13th May, and he died on 28th.
Cross-examined. Q. I believe he had been in the hospital? A. Hewent to the hospital the first day—when I attended him he was confined tohis bed at his own house, 14, Harper-street.
OSCAR MOOR PASSEY CLIYTOS . I am surgeon to the E division of police, and reside in Percy-btreet, Bedford-square. I saw Monk on 2nd May—Iexamined his head—there was I wound on the back part, and the head generallywas a great deal swelled—it indicated violent blows—I should thinkthey must have been inflicted by such an instrument as a staff—erysiplelascame on five or six days after, and he died on 28th May—by order of the Coroner I made a post mortem examination—I opened the skull, and found afrcture or fissure, and found four ounces of blood within the arachnoid membrane—the death was produced by erysipelas, the consequence of the blow.
Cross-examined. Q. When did you first see him? A. On 2nd Mayshortly after the injury—erysipelas had not then come on—he was going onas favourably as could be with such a wound on his head—his life could notbe considered safe—he had walked to my house and back—his life did notthen appear to be in danger—I could not tell that erysipelas would come on.
(Timothy Warren, Mercer-street, Long-acre, a mason; Joseph Ostail, of Gloucester-place, Pall-mall East; George Burt, mason; Cornelius Sullivan, of 4, Market-street, Fitzroy-market; and James Comming, 19, George-street, Bloomsbury, gave Patrick Coakley a good character.)
PATRICK COAKLEY— GUILTY . — Transportedfor Seven Years
JEROME COAKLEY— NOT GUILTY .
MESSRS. CLERK and METCALFE conducted the Prosecution.
THOMAS JOHN WOODWARD . I am a watchmaker, in Jewin-crescent. On Sunday, 4th June, between one and two o'clock, I was walking with mybrother in Virginia-row, Bethnal-green; there was a mob of people there—Isaw a boy standing at the corner of the street, who said, "There go twospecials;" then there was another cry, "There goes a Government spy; and I heard another voice say, "That is a policeman in disguise," and I immediatelysaw stones come at us—they came against the shutters of thehouses as we were passing along—my brother said, "We shall be cut topieces"—I immediately rushed into one house and my brother into another—awoman said to me, "Go out of the house; for God's sake go out"—they wereafraid the people would come in—the mob rushed into the house upon me—they burst the door open apparently—every one of them struck me, and said, "You b----special, take that"—there were not less than twenty men, andall that could have a blow at me did—I saw the prisoner among the crowd inthe house—I did not know him before—he struck me and said, "Take that, you b----special"—he was standing in front of me, and I saw his head inthe mob—I saw his face—I could see him distinctly; quite as distinctly as I see you at this moment—I said to the mob, "Search me, and see if I havegot a staff about me"—they were punching and striking me all the time—when I asked them to search me, they put their hands into my pockets—oneof them, I do not know who, put his hand in this pocket—they did that inless than a minute after I had been struck by the prisoner, and I lost 5s. frommy pocket—I am quite certain the 5s. was in my pocket when I went into
the house—the mob were crying out, "Drag the b----s out"—I did notsee the prisoner at the particular moment that the person put his hand in mypocket—I saw him just before, at the time they were searching me—I did notsee him after he had atruck me—I cannot say whether he could have got outof the room between the blow and their robbing me—they knocked me aboutso that I was obliged to beg for my life—they were crying out, "Drag himout, drag him out"—they caught hold of me by the neck, saying, "Comeout, come out," and seemed almost deranged—I was dragged out into thestreet, and the mob rushed on me and kicked and struck me—some man interfered, and I was ultimately released—I afterwards got a warrant—I wasout with my brother, and saw the prisoner the next evening standing outsidethe Standard theatre, in Shoreditch, about a quarter of a mile from where thisoccurred—I had not seen him since the time he struck me—I said to mybrother, "There is the man"—we watched him into the gallery of thetheatre—I went up to him twice, and when he saw that we were watchinghim be went as sharp as he could into the gallery—I asked permission to gointo the gallery; went in, and could not see him—I mentioned it to theofficer of the gallery, and he had the court cleared leading to the gallery andplaced us behind a bull's-eye facing the gallery stairs—we ultimately sawhim come down—while I was standing there the gas was put out—I immediatelyrushed outside the court and secured the prisoner as he came out, and my brother and I took him into custody.
Cross-examined by MR. PATNE. Q. I think you said it was betweentwelve and one o'clock?A. No; between one and two when I was in Virginia-row—I did not see him when I first went into the gallery of the theatre—I saw him come down the stairs—I had never seen him before he struckme.
WILLIAM MORRELL (policeman, G 80.) On Monday evening, 5th June, I went with the prisoner and prosecutor to the station—Woodward chargedthe prisoner with assaulting—and robbing him—the prisoner said he had neverleft his own house the whole of the day—when I first met the prosecutor hesaid the charge was an assault, and the prisoner made no answer.
Cross-examined. Q. Do you know the place where this happened? A. Yes; it is not more than ten minutes' walk from Spitalfields Church—it isnot a mile.
FREDERICK WOODWARD . I am the prosecutor's brother, and was with himon the Monday night, about twenty minutes to twelve o'clock, and saw theprisoner in Shoreditch—my brother drew my attention to him—I went up andlooked at him in the face—my eyes were then very much blackened—he turnedhis face away from me—I passed him again and looked at him again, and heturned his face away, and walked up Holywell-lane, and I lost sight of himwhen we got to the gallery entrance of the Standard theatre—we followedhim into the theatre, and as he came down I took him into custody—the gaswas put out, with the exception of a bull's-eye at the end of the passage—Icannot say whether the performance was over—there were a few personscoming down—the people who came down with the prisoner put the gas out.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you see who put the gas out? A. I did not—the officer did—he is not here—he laid hold of a boy that did it.
MR. PAYNE called
THOMAS WILDASH . I live at 38, Dorset-street, Crispin-street, Spitalfields, and am a shoemaker. I have known the prisoner ten or eleven years—hewas a smith, but fell out of work two or three years ago—has been working
as a shoemaker since with me—he was working so at this time—last Sundayweek I asked him if he would come and help me to finish some work for aman of the Jewish persuasion, who will not take in work on Saturday but on Sunday—he came up to my place at half-past seven o'clock on Sundaymorning, the day before he was taken into custody—he lives eight or ninedoors off, on the opposite side of the way—it is close to Spitalfields Church—we can hear every quarter go—he worked there till a quarter to ten—hethen went home and returned about half-past ten, and put two patches on theknees of his trowsers—he then helped to shell some peas for dinner, and hestopped till they were cooked—we had dinner at half-past one—he was then Mi from half-past ten till ten minutes to two, and never went out—I and my twobisters were at home all the time—we all took dinner together, and the prisonerpartook of part—he left after dinner, and I did not see him again that day.
Cross-examined by MR. CLERK. Q. Who dined with you? A. My twosisters, Susan and Mary Ann—we had pork, peas and potatoes—the prisonerlias worked for me above twelve months—the work I was doing was for Mr. Lyons, of Clifton-street, Crown-street, Finsbury—I have worked for himfour years—I finished the work at quarter to ten and sent it in—the prisonerdoes not usually mend his trowsers at my house—I think he lives at No. 13—he went away at a quarter to ten, and returned at half-past, and then did notgo out till ten minutes to two; that I swear; not even to go into the yard—my sisters both prepared the dinner—I do not know which of my sisterscooked the peas—we have a square deal table—three of us sat at the table, the prisoner did not—my sister gave him some—we have five or sixchairs—the prisoner sat in one, and took his plate or saucer on his knees—hewas very ill that day—he told me, while he was at work that morning, thathis legs were bad, and he thought he should go home and lie down—I do notknow whether the cut in his trowsers had anything to do with the sorenessof his legs—I have never been to any of the meetings in Bonner's-fields—Iam no advocate for any society, barring my food and work—the prisoner isthe only person I employ—he has had this wound on his leg a long time—Ido not know whether it got worse or better on this Sunday—he bad beencomplaining of it for a week—I understand he has been in the infirmary at Newgate.
MARY ANN WILDASH . I know the prisoner—I was at home last Sundayweek, at my mother's, 38, Dorset-street—the prisoner came there about half-pastten o'clock, and in a few minutes he asked my sister to lend him a needleand thread to mend his trowsers—I do not live there myself—I live in Butler-street, but I generally go there on Sundays—after the prisoner had donemending his trowsers, he helped me and my sister who were shelling peas andpeeling potatoes—he remained there while they were cooked, and then hadsome with us—he remained there till five or ten minutes to two.
Cross-examined. Q. Where was your mother? A. Gone out to dinner—she saw the prisoner there about half-past twelve o'clock—before shewent, me, my sister Susan, a younger sister, Eliza, who is about six yearsold, and my brother dined together—we had pork, peas, and potatoes—Ithink my sister Susan gave the prisoner some on a plate—I do not knowwhere he sat—I forget whether he sat at the table or not—I sat with myback to the door—Susan was towards the fire-place, on my left—Eliza satopposite to me, and my brother was on the same side as me—I cannot positivelysay whether the prisoner sat by my sister Susan or Eliza—the prisoner
had some peas and potatoes, and I think a small piece of pork—Elizawas in the room all the time—I think she was there when the prisoner wasmending bis trowsers.
SUSAN WILDASH . I live at 35, Dorset-street. I was at home last Sunday-week—I saw Crane there about half-past seven o'clock in the morning, till about ten minutes to two—we dined about half-past one—before dinnerhe helped us shell the peas and peel the potatoes—he went away in themorning from a quarter to ten till half-past, and when he came back heasked me for a needle and thread to mend his trowsers—I lent them him, andsaw him mend his trowsers.
Cross-examined. Q. Who lives in the house beside you? A. My brotherand mother—my mother was gone out to dinner—my sister was diningthere, but does not live there—my younger sister, who is about sixyears old, was there helping to shell the peas, and peel the potatoes—ire have not got a clock, but we can hear the Church clock strike thequarters—we generally listen for the quarters—we bear it very plainly—I was clearing up the place in the morning—I made my own bedafter breakfast—I did not notice the time—I did not notice what time Ibegan clearing up, nor what time I left off—I, my brother, two sisters, andthe prisoner sat down to dinner—my mother was oat till night—the prisonerdid not sit at the table—he was in the room, and I asked him if he wouldhave some dinner—he said, "Yes," and I gave him some—he sat on a chair—I saw him come back at half-past ten—he first went into my brother'sroom—I was in the room before dinner, cooking—my brother was at work—he has to work for a Jew, and had to finish it—they never take it in on Saturdaynight, but on Sunday morning—he remained in the room all the morning—I took his work home at a quarter before ten—I swear I saw theprisoner all the time, from half-past ten till a quarter to two—he was notabsent a minute—I never went out of the rooms, they are all on one floor—I have not brought my little sister here—I thought she was too young.
COURT. Q. Where does the prisoner live? A. At 13, in the samestreet.
THOMAS POTTER . I live at 87, Dorset-street, next door to the Wildash's. On Sunday week I was standing at my door, from between twelve and onetill Dearly two o'clock—a little before two I saw the prisoner come out of Mr. Wildash's door, No. 38—he stood at the door—I was going tospeak to him, but I went away and left him there—I am positive he could not havegone out or in before, while I was standing there, without my seeing him—he must have been in the house till I saw him come out.
Cross-examined. Q. What were you doing at the door? A. Smokingmy pipe—I generally stand there of a Sunday—Wildash and Cohen livenext door—Mr. Cohen was out and in several times, but I did not take particularnotice of him, and I should not have noticed the prisoner, but I wasgoing to ask him a question—he lives lower down, on the other side of theway—I cannot tell how many people went into Cohen's between twelveand one—I was up and down stairs all the morning, but from between twelve andone till very near two I did not leave the door.
MR. PAYNE. Q. Did you ask the question you wanted to of the prisoner?A. No, I did not, I thought I would leave it to his own generosity—it wasabout a paltry sum not worth mentioning.
half-past ten, or it might have been twenty minutes to eleven—he came outagain about ten minutes to two, stood at the door two or three moments, a and then went up the street, and crossed over towards his own house.
Cross-examined. Q. Had you a watch? A. No—it might have been afew minutes different, but was very near ten minutes to two o'clock—I was notbefore the Magistrate—when Mrs. Wildash came home and said he was committed, I said that I saw him come down stairs—I was standing in the shopat work when the prisoner came that morning—I am a Jewess—I did notsee him again till a little before two.
MR. PAYNE. Q. Would he pass the shop to go out? A. Yes—if hehad gone out while I was in the shop I should have seen him.
SARAH CRANE . I am the prisoner's mother; he lived with me at No. 13, I was at home last Sunday week—he was with the Wildash's that morning—he came home just about two o'clock, as near as I can say—he did not goout again that day—he went to bed—his leg was very bad indeed—he hadbeen attending Bartholomew's Hospital for it.
Cross-examined. Q. Why do you say he was with the Wildash's? A. He works regularly there—I have spoken to them about this—I was athome the whole day—the prisoner got up soonish that morning—I was upwhen he went out—he did not come home at twelve o'clock—became home inthe forenoon, but went out again—he has had a bad leg nine or ten months—I only had one room—it is a very large one, he sleeps in it, in a little bedto himself, at one end—he could not have come home between twelve and Onewithout my seeing him—he came home about two, went to bed, and never wentout again till Monday afternoon—no one called at my house on that Sundayafternoon, without it was Mrs. Williams, the mother of the Wildash's, who I have known many years—she married again—she came between ten andeleven at night, when my son was in bed, and Susan Wildash, I think, called about nine or ten in the evening.
(MR. CLERK proposed to put in the prisoner's statement before the Magistrate, authenticated by the Magistrate's signature, but it not being signed by theprisoner, and the clerk who took it down not being in attendance, the COURT would not receive it.)
NOT GUILTY .
NEW COURT.—Saturday, June 17th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. GIBBS, and Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Sixth Jury.
GUILTY. Aged 27.— Judgment respited .
1532. GEORGE COULING, DENNIS CALLAGHAN, THOMAS JONES, HENRY ILLMAN, WILLIAM MOSTON, HENRY WHITEHEAD, GEORGE BLACKBURN, JOHN KINGSTON, THOMAS HAYES , and CHARLES BINGLEY , for a riot, and assaulting the police in the execution of their duty.
MESSRS. BODKIN and CLERK conducted the Prosecution.
4th June, I was on duty in Bishop Bonner's-fields—I was directed to gothere a little before three o'clock—there had been different meetings therethat afternoon, and placards posted up in the neighbourhood prior to thatday, one of which I have here—there was a meeting at half-past three, andanother at half-past five, at which I should say there were full 3, 000 or 4, 000 persons assembled—I was near enough to hear some of the speeches—a portion of the police were placed in the neighbourhood behind the Church—the last meeting broke up about seven, and a portion of the assembly, about 1, 000 persons, went towards a public-house, about fifty yards fromthe Church—I saw a policeman in uniform—they immediately commencedpelting him with stones—Inspector Waller passed immediately after, andthey immediately commenced throwing at him—the whole of the mob werethrowing hundreds of stones at the Church windows and at the police—thirty-six panes of glass were broken in the Church windows—in about fiveminutes the police were called out—I saw Callaghan pick up stones, andthrow them at the police and at the Church windows—he and Bingley wentbehind a building, and fetched large granite stones, some as large as my fist, and threw them—I followed them, and took Bingley and another person, but the other person was rescued from me—I took the stones out of Bingley'shand—I was thrown down and illused, but succeeded in holding him—themeeting was dispersed by the police—I called the police, and so did Inspector Waller.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How many police were in the Church? A. I think sixty, I am not certain—I had not charge of them—Isaw a sergeant's head cut open with a stone—when the police came, thepeople ran in all directions, and got behind the police and pelted them—there was no fighting—the persons who were there were from sixteen tothirty years old—none were taken under sixteen—this was immediatelyafter the meeting broke up—the speaker alluded to the police being in the Church, and the people directly went towards it—I was very much hurt—Ifeel it now in my back—the mob pelted me, and called me a b—y specialconstable.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. There were thirty-six panes brokenbefore the police came out? A. Yes—there were some thousands of littlediamond panes in the Church—I believe the police went in there from oneto two o'clock—I am always in plain clothes—I know that neighbourhood—the incumbent of the Church attended on the wounded very kindly—hewas not in the Church—he lives in the house adjoining—I do not knowwhether the police were supplied with beer—I do not believe they were—when the police-sergeant had bis head cut, the clergyman asked him to havea glass of sherry—I do not believe there was any beer prior to the policegoing into the Church—all the speakers had gone away prior to the policeinterfering, except those that went towards the Church—after the policewere pelted I went in front of the Church, and called to the policeto come out—they refused, but as soon as the inspector came up, I saidto him, "For God's sake call the men out," and he did—I heard therewere a great many persons taken to the London Hospital—all the policewre armed with staves—I have not got one here—more police came afterwards—I have nothing to do with how many police were there—I was sentspecially to notice the meeting—I know the City of Paris public-house—Ido not know that the police went there—Bonner's-fields would hold somethousands of persons—Victoria-pnrk is near there—it is very much frequentedby the artizans for air—I do not know whether it is much frequented of a Sunday, it is likely to be.
Callaghan. Q. Did you see me pelt stones? A. Yes—you were notsuuounded by horse and foot police—the horse police did not come up forten minutes—there were hundreds of persons pelting at the same time—I Could not take you, it would have been dangerous—you got from the top ofa mound to the road, and got the stones and threw them—when the policecame out you ran away—a special constable followed and took you, but Ican swear most positively you were there throning stones—I am certain I am not mistaken.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINT. Q. What time was it you saw thesetwo persons throwing stones? A. A little after seven o'clock.
Bingley. Q. Did you see me throw stones? A. Yes; you went behinda hoarding, and got granites, and threw at the police and the Church—Icaught you with a stone in your hand as large as my fist.
JOHN CASS WALLER (police-inspector, K.) On Sunday, 4th June, betweenthree and four o'clock, I went with a party of the police into a Church in Bonner's-fields—there were then a great number of persons there—the meetingcontinued till past six, as near as I can recollect—about half-past six Ihad occasion to leave the place alone, to go to some of my force in the neighbourhood—I had my uniform on—I returned in ten minutes, and saw anumber of persons opposite the Church—stones were thrown at the windows, which broke them—when I got near the Church I was observed, and theycalled out, "There goes the b——y inspector; down with him"—I wasstruck by stones, principally granites, on my limbs and head, and a brickstruck me in the loins—I was hurt, but not seriously—they were thrown by thepersons opposite the Church—I succeeded in getting into the Church, andheard the windows crashing in—a number of stones flew right into the Church—I was not there the first time that Shackell came—I was when he came thesecond time—I ordered my men out—I had forty-one of them—they had noother weapons than staves—I brought out the men, and requested the mob todisperse quietly—the answer I got was another volley of stones—a sergeantand seven men were hit by them, and wounded in different parts—thesergeant, was very severely cut in the head, and wounded in different places—this was before the police did anything—I then directed my men to dispersethe mob—on the police advancing, the mob resisted, and were very obstinateat first—the police were obliged to use their staves—we succeeded, after fiveor six minutes, in clearing that portion of the ground—the mob made a secondstand near the City of Paris, at the corner of Bonner's-Hall-field—they againthrew stones at the police—the police charged them again there, and drove them away.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. What time were the police in the Church? A. A portion of them went in with me, and some I found there—I went there about half-past three o'clock—I cannot say whether a greatmany persons, after they had thrown a stone or two at the windows, ran away—I did not look round—I had enough to do to keep my head and limbs outof the way of the stones—there were four or five hundred persons at the Church, a small portion of those that had been in the field—a great manywere gone.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Did you count the broken panes?A. Yes; they had sen ice that afternoon—I heard part of it—the police weresitting in the Church with their staves in their pockets—part of the policewere marched into the Church during the service, and a portion were therebefore—we had nothing to drink there—they had no beer nor anything elseto drink before they went out to disperse the mob—they had no refreshmentwhatever—I saw none of my men drinking at the City of Paris—the mounted
police came up afterwards with cavalry swords—I cannot say whether theywere drunk, they were too far off—I had no cutlass—there were several divisionsof police there—I cannot say how many men there are in a division—ourshas nearly five hundred—it was probably half an hour from the time webegan to disperse the people till our exertions were ended—Bonner's-field isa very large place, and I believe it is much frequented by the working-classeson Sunday—the City of Paris is at the corner—the police followed the peopleto the City of Paris—there are benches outside where persons were takingrefreshment—the police cleared those benches—orders to disperse means tostrike, if the people do not disperse; but I gave an order not to aim at thehead unless it was imperative—I cannot tell how many heads were brokenby the police—no doubt a great many heads were broken—I have not beento the London hospital to know how many were injured—I do not know ofany having their legs broken—a number were bruised—I have not heard ofany women being bruised—I do not know that the hospital was so crowdedthat the surgeons were obliged to attend patients out of doors—I went out infront of the men before they came out of the churchyard, and said, "Nowdisperse quietly to your homes, will you?"—I believe those were the exactwords—I spoke loudly—Shackell was there—the men were in three ranks—directly I uttered the words, a volley of stones came, and I ordered themen out directly—I went up to the City of Paris—there were no men therebut mine—I could not see what the horse-police did—they were at the otherend of the field.
MR. BODKIN. Q. The mob made a stand at the corner of Bonner's-Hall-field, and the police under your direction dispersed them from that place?A. Yes—six or seven of our men came up but I had no assistance from themob—ray whole force consisted of my forty-one men, and those six or seven—down to the close of the evening other bodies of police were acting on thepeople in other parts of the field.
MR. BARRY. Q. Did you see the mounted police riding about the fieldin all directions with their drawn cutlasses?A. I saw them riding about atthe other end of the field, but cannot say whether their cutlasses were drawn; that was after we had dispersed the mob from the Church.
WILLIAM CHARLES POTTER (policeman, K 212.) On Sunday, 4th June, I was in the field opposite the Church, in plain clothes—after the meetingbegan to separate, a part of the mob assembled at the Church, and commencedthrowing stones—I saw Couling take a stone in his right hand, holdit some seconds, and then throw it across towards the Church where thepolicemen were, and towards the window on the right-hand side—I heardthe glass break, but I did not see the stone go through the window—Idirectly caught hold of him—my hat was knocked down over my head, andthe stones came down like hail—I was forced to let him go—that was beforethe police came out—just after they came out, Couling was stopped by aspecial constable.
Couling. Q. What time was it? A. From half-past six to seven o'clock; I swear that—I saw you, I suppose, for five minutes—I swear to you byyour face, and by my having hold of you—the stones did not hurt you—Iwas pointed out—my hat was knocked over my eyes, and was broken with astone—I never said I thought you were the man—I was always sure—I amnow positive—when I saw you with the special I said, "That is the manthat was rescued from me;" not "I think that is the man."
us, and the inspector and three sergeants—we came out—about three hundredpersons commenced breaking the Church windows with stones—we wereformed inside the churchyard; Mr. Waller was in front of us—I did not hearhim say anything to the mob—after we were desired to advance, I was struckby lllman, by some instrument, between the shoulders and the neck—I didnot see him when he struck me—I did not see what instrument it was—directly I was struck, I saw lllman, about three yards off, running away fromme, with this piece of iron in his hand—as far as I can judge it was with aweapon of this kind that I was struck; it was very heavy—I immediatelytook him with the assistance of No. 470 and a special constable—he wastaken to the Church vault, detained about an hour, and then removed tothe station.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Where did this happen? A. lnfront of the Church, and a little bit over the field—I did not see that Illmanwas inside a gate and some pales, and that the police made him come out—I do not know that he was struck several times on the arm by the policebefore he did anything—I swear I did not see him struck.
Q. Was he not knocked down; and when he got up, was he not struckviolently? and was it not then, and only then, that he used this piece ofiron? A. I did not see him strike at all—I struck him myself on the backwith this truncheon, (produced,) as he was running, after I had been struckmyself—I did not see him before I was struck—I was obliged to strike himbefore I could take him—I did not see him in the crowd after I had beenstruck—I took it from him, with the assistance of Loder and special constable Burnett—there were thirty-six policemen in the crowd, but not all together—I do not know how many special constables there were—they had nomarks to my knowledge—the one who was with me had nothing round hisarm, nor in his hand—I did not see a gate and some pales there—I knowvery little about that neighbourhood—I was never there before in my life—Iswear that I did not see lllman on the ground, and for a short time senseless.
FRANCIS LODER (policeman, K 407.) I was one of the division in the Church—I was brought out by inspector Waller, and saw the stones thrownat the Church and the police—I saw lllman in Bishop Bonner's-field—hetook this iron bar or piece of iron from under his coat, held it with bothhands, and struck Kilgour with it on the collar of the neck—it knocked himdown—I afterwards assisted Kilgour in taking him into custody, with theassistance of a special constable.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Where did this happen? A. Nearthe Greyhound, some distance from the Church—I did not see a gate andsome pales there—I did not see lllman inside a gate—he was standing in theopen place—I was assisting in driving the men away—the police had theirtruncheons drawn, trying to clear the field—I did not see the police hit them—I did not hit one man—I was in the front rank—some of the people ranaway, some would not—those who would not run were pushed on—if theyresisted, some were struck on the back, and I believe some on the head—Isaw the blood running from one or two—I believe a good many were hart, from what I was told—this iron was wrenched from lllman—it fell on theground—there was a struggle—he was not going away, he was standing still—I saw him struck once on the arm, when he had the bar in his band, andafter he had struck Kilgour—I did not see him struck several times beforethat because he would not go away—he was standing still, and would not goaway at all—he was struck on the head with a truncheon—it did not knockhim down—I cannot say how many times he was struck altogether—I did
not see him struck before he struck Kilgour—I did not see that the specialconstable bad anything in his hand, or any mark—when Kilgour was struckhis face was turned the other way—he had come up with the rest, and hadbeen trying to clear the people—some people were struck because they wouldnot go away.
Q. You said the policemen struck those who would not go away; Illman stood firm, and yet you say he was not struck till he gave the blow?A. He was not—I did not see him struck—I saw blood running from hishead after he had struck Kilgour.
MR. BODKIN. Q. Did you notice Kilgour strike him at all? A. No—Ido not know who struck him on the head.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. How many heads did the policebreak that evening? A. I cannot say—I heard there were some headsbroken—I do not know of any legs or arms being broken, or of any personsbeing bruised—I saw my fellow-policemen striking with all their force—Iwas in advance—I was rushing forward with all my force, trying to clear themeeting—I did not go to the London Hospital.
COURT. Q. Did you see any one there who was desirous of going away, and appeared to be unable to go? A. I saw one man lying down—he wasallowed to lie there—it was not one of the prisoners—I saw the mountedpolice riding about the field with their drawn cutlasses—the people werefiring from them.
MR. PARRY. Q. And did not the people fly from you? A. Some did—the City of Paris is much frequented on Sunday afternoon by working men—there are I think two tables, and about four forms outside—it is not avery great distance from the Church—there were a great many people drinking—we cleared the whole place, and drove them away—I cannot say whether Kilgour was struck before or after we got to the City of Paris, I was sobusily engaged.
FREDERICK SHAW (police-sergeant, A 29.) On Sunday, 4th June, I wasin Bonner's-fields—when the meeting dispersed it was nearly seven o'clock—Isaw the Church windows broken—I saw a body of police brought from the Church—they dispersed the people in front of the Church—I saw about 200 persons at the corner of Bonner-street—Whitehead was there with aboutfifty others—while the police were clearing the people, he went into the roadbehind them, and threw two granite stones at them—he was fifteen or twentyyards from them—I kept my eye on him till the police returned, and thenapprehended him—there were a number of stones thrown.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Did you see at what policemanlie threw them? A. I could not—there were about a dozen policemen—whether the stones struck any one I do not'know—he stood at the corner of Bonner-street, near a public-house, I think called the City of Paris—I wasin plain clothes—we were to disperse the people as we could—I do not knowthat part of the mob were policemen in plain clothes—they were not mixedwith the crowd—there were not 300 or 400 in plain clothes—I received noinstructions to hear what went on and report it—I received orders from Inspector Shackell to attend the meeting—I think there were two ordered withme—they were not with me when the stones were thrown—we lost each otherin the crowd—Whitehead marie no complaint to me—I did not see anyblood—he was not insensible—he had either a hat or cap on—he had somethingon his head—he was taken by the police who were on the ground—Inever heard he had been wounded—he was not taken to the hospital, butto the station, and kept there till he was taken before the Magistrate.
MR. BODKIN. Q. Did you attend before the Magistrate? A. I did, onthe following day—Whitehead was there—he did not appear wounded—Iheard no complant made.
MR. BALLANTINE. Q. If he had his head cut open at all, it must hovebeen before you saw him throw these stones? A. Yes.
MR. CLERK. Q. You took him at the corner of Bonner-street? A. Yes, I called two constables to assist me—I took him to the Church myself—hewas active before the officers came up—I saw him leave about fifty personsstanding at the corner, walk into the road, and throw two stones at thepolice—I waited till the police came, and then took him—he walked to the Church.
ROBERT WESTFIELD (policeman, K 339.) I was with the police in the Church—when I came out I saw Blackburn throwing stones at the police—some of the persons were in custody then—I heard Blackburn say, "Don'tlet those b—y police take that man away"—when I came up, he ran away—I followed and took him—he was running towards the City of Paris—I sawhim throw three stones.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Did you take him at the City of Paris? A. No, just past there—it was about six o'clock when I saw himthrow the stones—it was about this time that the police rushed out of the Church—I was not rushing with them—I had been out—some of the policewere out before seven—I was standing in the field, close to the Church—Blackburn was about 200 yards further off—part of us were rushing towardsthe mob when Blackburn threw the stones—I was rushing on the mob—Ihad my staff in my hand—I did not strike any one—we were advancing, the people were flying—I went as far as the City of Paris—it is close to the Church, in the high road—none of my brother police were drinking there—Blackburn used the words, "b—y police," at one time, and at another time, he said, "Don't let them b—rs do it"—I did not see him have an umbrellain his hand.
WILLIAM HENRY MAINWARING (policeman, L 86.) I was on duty in Bonner's-fields on 4th June—I saw Kingston there about ten minutes afterthe policemen came out of the Church—several special constables were there—Kingston had an umbrella in his hand—he pointed it to the constables, and said, "Give it them," and, "Ah! the b----rs"—I and two otherconstables took him.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Was this at the City of Paris? A. Opposite it—the police were clearing the benches at the time—there werecries, and yelling and hooting—Kingston might have said, "Shame! shame!"but I did not hear him.
WILLIAM WISEMAN (policeman, K 156.) I was in Bonner's-fields, inplain clothes—I saw Kingston there—while the policemen were driving themob away I heard him say, "Ah! the b----rs"—seeing him in respectableattire I watched him—he cried, "Shame" and groaned—stones were beingthrown at the police—I assisted in taking Kingston.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. What do you mean by assisting intaking him? A. Three of us took him—he made no resistance—he wasjust by the Church, outside the City of Paris—I did not see the policeclearing the benches, of pots and bread and cheese—Kingston was not theonly man who cried, "Shame!"—we took him to the Church, where theothers were taken—he was put into a vault—he was not thrown in—I can-notsay how many were in the vault—there were not twenty or thirty—therewere five or six when. I was there.
HENRY GOULD (policeman, E 40.) I was on duty at Bonner's-fields—Isaw some of the police taking two men to the Church—they were followedby Haves and others, I should say from two to three hundred—I heard Hayes Say, "D—n the b----y police; take them away"—a great quantityof stones were flying in all directions—I kept my eye on him—I saw him followingthe mob, and persuaded him to go away—he was hallooing andshouting, "D—n the b----y police"—I took him into custody.
Hayes. Q. I was on the way to Victoria-park; where Was I when youtook me? A. About 200 yards from the Church, following the mob, when two prisoners were being conveyed to the Church—you made noresistance.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. "Were you in the vault? A. Yes—there were about eleven there then—the prisoners were there about twotours, till the mob dispersed—I did not see any coffins—it was quite dark—I went down with the prisoners—the policemen were guarding them outsidewith their staves—the clergyman never objected to our putting them in thevault—I do not know whether it was a family vault.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Were not his wrists tied together?A. No—I took him to the Church—I do not know how he was taken, from there—I was sent to Arbour-square with a message.
WILLIAM HORTON (policeman, K 373.) I was there, and saw Hayes—Iheard him say, "D—n the b----y police; let us do something or other tothe murdering villains"—there were stones falling in showers—I saw Hayesthrow a stone at one of my brother constables—I assisted in taking him.
JOHN BURNETT . I am a tailor, at Cambridge-road, Bethnal-green. I wasa special-constable on Sunday, 4th June—after the meeting had separated, about seven o'clock, I saw part of the mob go towards the Church—I sawthree of the prisoners there throw stones at the Church—I assisted Potter intaking Couling—after the police came out to disperse the people near the Church I saw Illman knock policeman 92 K down, with what I thoughtwas a stick—when I got up to him I found it was an iron bar—I saw Joneswith his arm up, as if he were throwing—I did not see the stone go—I ranup to him—a policeman seized him and said, "Take him to the Church"—Idid so, and locked him up.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Where did you lock Jones? A. Inthe Church vault—I believe there were nine prisoners there—the Rev. Mr. Horton first gave me the key—I went to his house for it, and gave it to apoliceman—there were policemen on the top of the vault—it is under the Church—I believe it is dark—I did not stay long enough to see—I was aspecial-constable—I had no mark on my arm or staff in my hand—I wassworn to do my duty when there was any disturbance—perhaps we shovedthe prisoners into the vault—there was great confusion—I cannot say whether I or the policemen locked the vault—I saw Illman strike a policeman—I wasforty-five or fifty yards from him—the field was pretty clear then—I saw Illman's head bleeding after he was taken—I ran towards him—two police-mentook him, the policeman who had been struck and another—the one whowas struck got up and struck Illman, I would not swear whether it was onthe head or the shoulder—he was taken to the vault—he was not pitched in, he walked in—I should say they were there an hour and a half—threedoctors were in the vault—I should say it was a large place.
MR. BODKIN. Q. How soon after Kilgour had been struck with the bar
did he strike Illman? A. Almost directly—he was in custody then—I sawseveral police wounded—one in particular, sergeant No. 18.
JAMES STEPHENSON . I am a linendraper of Arbour-terrace, Commercial-road—I was a special constable—I was near the Church, in Bonner's-fields, on Sunday, 4th June, before the police came out—there was a large meeting, at some distance from the Church—the speakers stood on a heap of each—Iheard several speakers—one was a Mr. Jones—I did not know him before, and I do not know that I should know him again—it was not Jones now inthe dock—during the meeting there were several persons in front of the Church, and after the meeting a good many more went to the Church—somepolicemen were outside, and an attack was made on them—a lot of stoneswere thrown at them, and then on those within the Church railings, and theyall retreated—shortly afterwards a cry was raised, "To the windows," andstones were thrown very rapidly at the windows—before the police came out, Couling was throwing stones in the direction of the few police within the Church railings—he was taken by a policeman in private clothes and rescuedsoon afterwards—Callaghan and another man were with him—the other mancallcd Callaghan aside and spoke to him—Callaghan then came to me andsaid, "Are you a special?"—I said, "No; I am no special"—he said, "This man said you was "—I said, "No; I am no special"—he said, "Isuppose you are like us; you only want your rights"—I said, "That is all"—they had their hands full of stones at the time, which they threw towardsthe Church—the police came out of the Church in a minute or two, and came running out towards the gates—Callaghan went to run away—Itook him by the collar and handed him over to the police, who took him—Isaw Moston throwing stones, and calling to the people, "Stand firm, anddon't give way," till the police came out—the stones went in hundreds—theywere throwing at the police, and in the direction of the Church windows—Icontinued there till the prisoners were taken to Arbour-square station—therewas, in my opinion, no unnecessary violence on the part of the police towardsany one.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Had you any indication of being aspecial constable? A. None—directly the police came up Moston ran away—I never saw him before—I know him, because I took particular notice ofhis dress and face—I am not aware that any special constables were calledout—I was not called out—I believe there were several special constables—Isaw some with staves—I did not put any persons in the vault—I handedthem to the police—I saw several who had been wounded bleeding from thehead—Callaghan took up several stones—I cannot account for only thirty-sixpanes of glass being broken—I went up to him, and said, "This is anotherthat I saw throwing stones"—he was then taken to the vault—I did not seethe constable strike Moston on the leg while he was standing on some steps—there is a bar across in going to the vault—Moston would have had to stoopdown to go in—he was obstinate—a policeman below took him by the legs, and another took him by the shoulders—I did not see him struck—I wasstanding close by the bide of the vault, and am positive no one struck him.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Did you go near the City of Parispublic-house? A. Yes—I did not notice that the conduct of the police therewas unnecessarily violent—they were pelted with stones—I do not knowwhether they went to get drink—I saw several go down in lots, but not tillthe meeting was over—I have said I was exceedingly sorry that a greatmany innocent persons suffered—it was impossible for the police to discriminate—very likely some of them were taking their Sunday evening walk—it
is a great thoroughfare—I neither saw a woman or child struck—I did notsee the police strike the people on the head.
LEWIS CLARK . I am a surveyor at George's-terrace Bonner's-fields. Isaw an assemblage of many hundred persons near the Church, abouthalf-past five or six o'clock—there were many hundred persons—some hadsticks, and some threw stones—the meeting was such as to inspire terror inay own mind for my family and my house—I went home, and shut myhouse up.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. You saw nothing after six o'clock? A. few minutes after six I did—I was by there again then.
CAPTAIN JAMES ROBINSON . I was captain of a merchant vessel, but haveretired—I live at James-terrace, near Bonner's-fields. On 4th June I sawthe people come, in a very tumultuous manner, from the direction of Bonner's-fields, past my house, charged by the police, both mounted and foot—as far as I observed, there was no unnecessary violence on the part of thepolice—those on horseback were merely flourishing their cutlasses—I did notsee any strike—I do not recollect that I had heard of this meeting before ittook place—it created much terror and alarm in my mind—we had heard ofthese meetings before, and were much frightened—my house is on the otherside to the City of Paris.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Did the foot police come after theothers? A. Yes—there were persons between the horse police and the foot—the foot had some truncheons, but no swords—they were pursuing thepeople—I do not know whether any of them got an unlucky blow—I was inmy own parlour, looking through my window—I have females in my family—they were alarmed by the people.
RICHARD HARE . I am a solicitor, at Princes-street. On Sunday, 4th June, I was strolling about in the direction of Victoria-park, merely for freshair—I was going near the Church in Bonner's-fields, there was a considerablenumber of people there, scattered in all directions—I remember thepolice coming out of the Church—before they came out, I saw Inspector Waller in front of the Church—stones were thrown at him and at the Churchat the same time, and I heard cries something like execrations on the police—I did not take particular notice of the words, but they were, "Down withthe b----y police!" or something to that effect—some of the stones struck Inspector Waller—he went into the Church, and the throwing was continued—the police came out in four or five minutes, and some directions were given—I fancied I heard the words, "Steady, steady," by the inspector—the policethen came out of the chuich-yard, and proceeded to disperse the people—thethrowing of stones continued—I ran off as soon as I could when I saw thefighting, when the police came out.
GEORGE GEORGE . I am an officer of the Customs. I went for a walk in Bonner's-fields on Sunday evening, June 4th—I saw stones thrown at the Church windows some time before the police came out—I was forty yards off—I saw Inspector Waller begging the people to desist; I could not hearthat, but I saw by his hands that he did so—the police made a feint as ifthey were ordered to withdraw—they then made a rush out—there werestones thrown then, and as the police followed the mob they were mostbrutally attacked by the mob—I withdrew as the mob did, and after themeeting was dispersed I came back, and accompanied the police with the prisonersto Arbour-square—I never saw men act with greater forbearance thanthe police, till they were attacked by the ruffians that were there—I was attacked, being taken for a Special—a man came up, and said, "Don't act as
brutes, if you are Chartists, don't act as brutes"—I only saw the prisoner—Hayes there—he appeared in an excited state.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. You are not a Chartist? A. No, Ishould be very sorry to be one.
THE REV. HENRY PHILIP HORTON . I have been incumbent of St. Jame's Church, Bonner's-fields, between two and three years—I have a residenceadjoining the Church. On 4th June I was attending my duty in the Church—the morning service was concluded about one o'clock—there was afternoonservice concluding between four and five—during the afternoon service Iheard a noise outside as of a number of persons assembled—the service wasnot interrupted by it—at the conclusion of the service, about four o'clock, Ileft the Church to go home, and saw some hundreds of persons assembled, throwing stones at Inspector Waller and at the Church windows—I did nothear any individual words, but there was a general cry—this meeting inspiredterror and anxiety in my family—Inspector Waller went into the Church-yard—there had been about thirty-six police in the body of the Church—ontheir being brought out they proceeded to disperse the mob, who were makingconsiderable noise, and throwing stones—I watched the efforts of the policetill they returned with some prisoners—I gave permission that the personswho were taken into custody on the spot should be placed for security in avault of the Church—I saw no violence used by the police before they wereassaulted—I was there when the medical men were attending the woundedpolicemen—I do not recollect seeing any wounds on the prisoners who werebrought in.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Do not you know that some personwere put into the vault with their heads bleeding? A. No, I did not see any—I was about my own house and the Church—a person might be put intothe vault, one policeman having hold of his legs and another his shoulders, without my seeing it—I did not see any broken heads—I may not have seenall the people in the vault—I cannot say whether the great bulk of the peopleran in all directions when the police rushed out, many of the people ranaway.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Were the police in the Church during Divine service? A. During part of it, some in the gallery and some below—they requested it, and I gave them permission to come if they chose—aspecial constable came, and I gave him the key of the vault—it is not afamily vault—there is only one coffin in it—there is a vestry to the Church—I did not suggest that it would be better to keep those persons in the vestry, and guard them there—the entrance to the vault is outside the Church—there is an iron grating over it.
Couling's Defence. On the day I was taken, at half-past five o'clock, Iwent over Victoria-park, which is my usual walk on Sundays I came to the City of Paris public-house, called for half-a-pint of porter, brought it out, andsat down outside, drank it, and smoked a pipe; presently I heard a cryopposite the Church, and a great many stones falling; the special says hesaw me pick up stones, but it was my pipe fell; I stooped to pick it up, andwalked on, and put it into my pocket behind; I got opposite the gates of the Church, and the special rushed upon me, and said, "You b----r, I saw youheave it;" he collared me, and seven or eight policemen rushed out, anddragged me, and very nearly killed me; they poked me with their stares, and hit me over the arm; I got bruised all over; they put me down thevault; it is hardly big enough for a man to get down; I slipped, and twopolicemen laid held of my handkerchief and twisted it round, and I felt my
face swell; I have been in prison thirteen days, and my wife and child arealmost starving.
Hayes' Defence. I received two or three blows; I had not done anything.
Bingley's Defence. I was going along, and the police rushed out andtook me.
(Moston, Whitehead, Blackburn, Kingston, Hayes, and Bingley, receivedrood characters.)
ILLMAN— GUILTY . Aged 33.— Confined Two Years. —COULING— GUILTY [Recommended to mercy. See original trial image.] . Aged 25. JONES— GUILTY [Recommended to mercy. See original trial image.] . Aged 19. CALLAGHAN— GUILTY [Recommended to mercy. See original trial image.] . Aged 22. MOSTON— GUILTY [Recommended to mercy. See original trial image.] . Aged 20. HAYES— GUILTY [Recommended to mercy. See original trial image.] Aged 30. WHITEHEAD— GUILTY [Recommended to mercy. See original trial image.] . Aged 19. BLACKBURN— GUILTY [Recommended to mercy. See original trial image.] . Aged 19.— Confined One Year .—KINGSTON— GUILTY [Recommended to mercy. See original trial image.] . Aged 26.— Confined Six Months. —BINGLEY— GUILTY [Recommended to mercy. See original trial image.] . Aged 15.— Confined Three Months .— All to enter into 100l. Recognizances for Two Years. —(They were all recommended to mercy by the Jury, except Illman.)
THIRD COURT.—Saturday, June 17th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. HUMPHEEY; Mr. Ald. WILLIAM HUNTEB Mr. Ald. MOON; and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq., and the Second Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Seven Years.
GUILTY .— Confined Six Months.
MESSRS. RYLAND and LAURIE conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN CLARK , Esq. I am clerk to this Court. I produce the depositionsagainst Philip Magnus, taken before Mr. Ald. Wilson, in Sept., 1846—Ann Davis appears as the first witness—I also produce a recognizance, which. appears to have been entered into by Ann Davis, on 1st Sept., 1846, to giveevidence against Philip Magnus for felony; also the record of the indictmentagainst Philip Magnus for felony, by which it appears that he was found Not Guilty—here is an entry in the original minute-book of the Court, "Estreatthe Recognizances of Ann Davis," signed by the Recorder—here is also amemorandum on the indictment that she was called on her recognizance before the Grand Jury.
JAMES HARRISON NEWMAN . I am assistant clerk to the Justices at Guild-hall. These depositions are my writing—this is Mr. Ald. Wilson's signatureto them—he committed Philip Magnus for trial—I made out these recognizances—I recollect Ann Davis being bound over to prosecute.
JAMES HEMP . I assist in keeping the minute-books of tin's Court—thisentry of Friday, 25th June, 1846, is my writing—I remember the personnamed here being acquitted—I believe the prosecutrix was absent, from seeingthis memorandum to estreat her recognizance, which was signed by the Recorder, in my presence—I believe no evidence was offered.
ANN DAVIS . I am single. In 1846 I Jived in Millman-street, Bedford-row. On 31st Aug. 1846, I fell in with a person named Philip Magnus—Imade a complaint against him of robbing me, and attended next day before Mr. Aid. Wilson, at Guildhall, and charged him—what I said was taken down—I signed it—this is my signature—I received a paper, placing me under 401 penalty to appear, and as far as that paper went I knew that I ought toattend the trial of Philip Magnus—Maria Allen lived with me—she wentwith me to Guildhall—before we went into the Court, Hannah Decastro cameup and asked if we knew what time the Court opened—I said I thoughttwelve o'clock—she said, "Are you going?"—I said, "Yes"—she said, "What for?"—I said, "To give evidence against a young man for picking my pocket—she said, "Come here, my dear, I want to speak to you"—Maria Allen went on one side—Mrs. Decastro said, "He is my next doorneighbour; I have very great respect for him, and if you will not go, I willtake you anywhere you like, and you shall have what you like"—Allen heard it—the prisoner called on me the next Monday morning alone—he said he cameto see me concerning the prisoner Philip Magnus, to see what be could dorespecting ray not appearing, and said the family were very respectable, oneof the sisters kept a shop in Chancery-lane and another in Gray's-inn-road;(which I found she did;) that he was very ill, and his wife was just confined, and for the sake of his wife and family wished me not to press against him—I said I was under 40l. bail to appear—he said he that was of no more consequencethan the dust under his feet—I said I was afraid it was—he said heknew the law, as he was in the law, and was always brought up to the law—two days afterwards the prisoner came again with Mrs. Israel, as far as I canrecollect, but I was very ill—they pressed me not to appear—Mrs. Israeloffered to send me a physician, and Mr. Lazarus offered to send me a bottleof wine and a physician, if I would not appear—Mrs. Israel said I shouldhave a home in her bouse, sit at her table, and be one of her own family, if I would not appear—Allen was with me—they wanted me to go outof town—I cannot say which asked me—I went that evening to inquirewhether they were respectable, as Mrs. Israel said her husband was a taxgatherer—I found they were very respectable—I do not know whether itwas that evening, but we went to Mrs. Israel's house, and saw her and herhusband, who took a sovereign out, offered it me, and said I must be in wantof money, having had my money taken from me by the prisoner—Allen wassitting by me, and told me not to take it—Mrs. Israel said her brother wasgoing to be married—she did not mention bis name—when we went downinto the shop the prisoner was there, and asked us to go to the wedding, and offered to lend us his sister's clothes, white or satin dresses, or anythingwe liked—I said I would not go if my own clothes were not fit to go in—on 15th Sept., Mrs. Israel and Mrs. Decastro came about eight o'clock, before I was up—I got up, and saw them—Mrs. Israel had been to me theprevious evening to know how it was to be settled—I said we bad better goto the Court, and let the Magistrate decide it—she came next morning ingreat distress, with her sister, and said her mother and all her friends werevery much cut up—I would not consent to go away unless I had a lawyer'sadvice—they had offered to Lake me to any lawyer I liked to go to—they
said Lazarus would be there in a few minutes—he came, and said he hadcome to take me so any lawyer I liked, and we went out with that view—on going along he said Mr. Wooller was always considered very clever insuch cases, but he did not know where he lived, and so he would inquire in astationer's shop—Maria Allen was with us—we went into a stationer's, andlooked at a directory, and then went to Mr. Wooller—Lazarus told him thatthe prisoner was a friend of mine, and I did not wish to prosecute—I do notknow whether he said the prisoner's name—I said, "Mr. Wooller, I wishyou quite to understand what it is"—I showed him my recognizance, andsaid I had no animosity against the party, and wished to do what was righton both sides; but I did not want to place myself in any da Dger—Mr. Wooller said he recollected hearing of the case, and if I acted according tohis directions I might do it with perfect safety; that it was a thing that wasdone every day; that we must go out of town, but he must know where wewere, and we should be perfectly safe if we acted under his directions—I leftthe recognizance with him—Lazarus gave Mr. Wooller his card, and promisedto let him know where we were—he said he would conduct the trial, and ifwe were wanted he would send for us—I saw no money paid to Wooller, but Lazarus had money in his hand when we were speaking, and he sent me and Allen out of the room, and joined us in about three minutes—we then allwent to Mrs. Israel's—she said she had written to a person, who she fre-quentlystopped with at Gravesend, for apartments, and she wished us to godown that afternoon—I said we could not go that day, for we could not leaveour lodging without giving a week's notice—she said if we paid for the weekit would not signify, and gave me 5s. for the rent, and half-a-crown to payour coach-hire to the Grotto Tavern, with our luggage, and she would meetus there—we packed up our things, and went to the Grotto—we met Mrs. Israel in Holborn—we were in the cab, and she followed us to the Grotto—Allen stopped with the luggage—I went with Mrs. Israel to Chancery-lane, to see if Elizabeth Magnus was come—we found her, and went back to the Grotto, and took a cab to Blackfriars-bridge—we got on the packet, and then Mrs. Israel said she had a letter from Gravesend saying that the apartmentswere full—we all went to Woolwich—Mrs. Israel took apartments of a Mrs. Dawson, and told her she had brought me down for the benefit of my health, and her sister was come to accompany me, and would wait on us—Mrs. Israel went home that night—Mrs. Decastro was the first person who visitedus; it was the next day, or the next but one—she went back the same. Day—on the Sunday Lazarus came down—I did not converse with him; I waslying on the sofa, very ill—he went back the same day—I think Mrs. Israelcame on the Tuesday, and I think Lazarus did—I am not sure whether hecame twice or three times—on Thursday, Mrs. Israel and James Magnuscame, and before Magnus had been there five minutes he offered, metwo handfulls of sovereigns, and said, "Miss Davis, you must be inwant of money; my brother has taken yours; you are welcome to as much as you like, but don't say anything about it to any of your friends"—Allenwas not present—I said I did not want money from any of them, I did notwant to make anything by it—Allen then came in with the tea—next day, Friday, Mrs. Israel came down about dinner-time, and shortly afterwards Lazarus and James Magnus came to fetch us home, as I had said" I could notstop longer than Friday, whether it was settled or not—Lazarus said it wasall over, and the prisoner was released—Mrs. Israel wanted us to stop till Tuesday, when our week was up—Lazarus was present—I objected—shesaid she wanted to stop for the benefit of her health—we all went home by
the steam-boat—directly we landed, I left them, at Blackfriars-pier, with myboxes, and went by myself to Mr. Wooller—I afterwards told Mrs. Israelthat Mr. Wooller said if she did not pay me for my loss of time he wouldtake it in hand, for the way Lazarus had served him—she said she should donothing of the kind, it was all over, and I might do as I liked—I had nomoney when I went to "Woolwich, and I do not think Maria had—Elizabeth Magnus staid with us all the time, and found all the money—Maria used togo out for provisions—I never went with her, I was so poorly—the two orthree first days we went out for a walk all together—on the Sunday after wecame home, Mrs. Israel paid me the money I had been robbed of.
Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. Why not pay yourself for youloss of time when Magnus offered you the sovereigns? A. I did not likehis telling me not to tell any one—I thought he was rogue enough to say Ihad stolen them from him—I did not want to be paid for loss of time, but Wooller told me to deliver that message—if they bad offered it me I shouldnot have taken it—Mrs.'Israel is dead—I understand she was Magnus'ssister, and Elizabeth Magnus and Mrs. Decastro also—Mr. Israel lives in Gray's Inn-lane, and has a shop in Chancery-lane—no other lawyer was proposedbefore Mr. Wooller—Mr. Robinson's name was mentioned, but it wasnot to take his advice—I said if he was employed at the Session I would notanswer bis questions—I did not propose a friend of mine—I have no friend alawyer—I am sure Lazarus did not say, "I would not go away unless I hada lawyer's advice"—he said the bail was of no cousequence whatever—he saidnothing about advice when he said, "I am come to take you to a lawyer"—I had spoken about one the evening before—Wooller said nothing abouttaking the responsibility of it on himself—he said it was nothing at all, providedwe acted under his directions, and we could be brought up in an hour—I understood that Lazarus was acting as a solicitor—he told me so fromthe first.
MARIA ALLEN . I am single. In Sept., 1846, I lived at Milman-street, with Ann Davis—I went to Guildhall with her, as her friend—I knewnothing of the robbery—Mrs. Decastro spoke to us, and asked Davis not togo in to prosecute Magnus, and said she would give us 5l. to take us out ona day's excursion to Richmond, not to appear—the offer was not accepted—Davis was not in bad health then—I accompanied her about a week afterwardsto Mrs. Israel's, in Constitution-row, Gray's-inn-road—we saw Mr. and Mrs. Israel—she had wished us to come to tea, and we went—she seemedvery much vexed, and wished Davis not to prosecute—afterwards Lazarus, Mr. Israel, and Mrs. Decastro, came to Milman-street, to get us not to prosecute—Lazarus invited us to go to a Jew's wedding—we did not go—Davis said I she did not want to go out of town, as she might be fined for it—Lazarus and Mrs. Israel said it was not of consequence if she—went, for she had nothing toa lose, and they would not follow her—she said she could not go without alawyer's advice—they pressed her very much—Mr. Lazarus chose Mr. Wooller, of Hntton-garden, took us there, introduced us, and told him thecase—he said if we gave it into his hands she should be placed in safety ifshe would go out of the way—she gave her recognizance into Lazarus's hand, and he gave it to Wooller—he said she was certainly in danger if means werenot taken beforehand, but if they would give it into his hands he would placeher in safety, and if danger occurred he would let her know—Lazarus saidhe wished her to go out of town—he asked her to step out while he spoke to Wooller—he told Mrs. Israel it was a sovereign he paid, and he told us so inthe cab, and I rather think Mrs. Israel paid him then, and we all went to
Mrs. Israel's, in Gray's Inn-road, when she gave Davis 5s. to pay for herlodging, and 2s. or 2s. 6d. for a cab to take us to the Grotto—we had agreedin the morning to go to Gravesend—I and Davis went in a cab to the Grotto—Mr. Israel met us in Holborn, and we went with her and Elizabeth Magnus in a cab to Blackfriars pier—we went to Woolwich, as Mrs. Israelsaid it would be best, as she could come oftener down to see us—she tookapartments of a Mrs. Dawson, and said that Davis was ill, and we had cometo accompany her—Mrs. Israel returned the same night, Elizabeth Magnusremained the whole time, she paid for everything—Mrs. Decastro camenext day and went the same night—Lazarus came on the Sunday, and returned—Mrs. Decastro came again, I cannot say what day—Lazarus cametwo or three times—the last time was the day of the trial—Mrs. Israeland Mrs. Magnus came with him—he said the trial was over, Magnus wasacquitted, and he had come to bring us home—we went back, and landed, I think, at the Temple pier—I saw Lazarus once or twice afterwards—Mr. or Mrs. Israel said they had paid Davis the money she had lost—the firstweek we were at Woolwich we went out frequently, but never without Elizabeth Magnus—she said she was afraid of somebody seeing us, and ofmy writing to London.
Cross-examined. Q. Was any attorney suggested before Wooller? A. No; Lazarus said we might apply to a friend of our own—I said I did notknow one, and did not send him to one—he said Wooller was a very notedman, and went into a stationer's shop to inquire for him—I know Castle-street, Holborn—I did not send Lazarus to any one there—I mentioned thecircumstance to Mr. Jackson—I believe he is connected with the law—I didnot send Lazarus to him—I told him, I had mentioned it to Jackson—hewent there twice, and Mr. Jackson would not see him—Mr. Jackson did notadvise us to go unless we had 100l.—Lazarus first proposed a lawyer's advice—he did not wish us to go on his advice alone.
DOECAS PASCALL . In Sept. 1846, I lived at 10, Millman-street—Allenand Davis lodged there—I think the prisoner is the man who came to see Davis early in Sept.—he came two or three times alone, I think, but I amnot sure—he was in my room once—he came to enquire for Davis—she wasnot at home—he said he wanted to see her about Philip Magnus picking herpocket—I do not remember whether she came in—it is two years ago—I donot think I saw her with him—Davis and Allen left their lodging, and cameback on the day Philip Magnus was tried—I was here, and heard him acquitted—neither of them were here.
ANN DAWSON . In Sept., 1846, I kept a lodging-house in Woolwich—Ilet some apartments to Mrs. Magnus—she was in the house the whole of thetime with Davis and Allen—they staid eleven days—they frequently hadvisitors—the prisoner was one—he came on Sunday with a basket of provisions, again on Wednesday and on Friday—when the trial was over hefetched them home with another man, if not two—Elizabeth Magnus usedto give Allen money to fetch things in—Davis was ill and never fetched anything—they very seldom went out.
ELIZA GODIAH . In Sept, 1846, I was servant to Mrs. White, who livedat Mrs. Dawson's. Davis and Allen occupied two rooms there, for nine orten days—the prisoner came, I think, twice—they went away with a Jewessand two more people who came down to fetch them—I do not rememberseeing the prisoner that day.
GUILTY . Aged 27.— Fined 25l ., and Confined Two Months.
JOHN SIMMONS WINTERFLOOD . I am clerk to Gadsden and Co. On 15th June, at one o'clock in the morning, I had been to Hoxton, and was crossing—the Hackney-road—I had had half-a-dozen glasses of wine, not more—I knew what I was about perfectly—the prisoner came up tome and snatchedmy guard, which was in my waistcoat-pocket; the swivel gave way and thewatch parted from it—I followed the prisoner, and never lost sight of him—Burnham stopped him three yards before me—I saw no one else in the street I have not seen the watch since.
JOHN BURNHAM (policeman.) About half-past one o'clock in the morning Iwas in the Commercial-road—I heard a cry of "Stop him," but a young manran by me just before that—I saw the prisoner running towards me, and the prosecutorafter him—the prisoner is the only man he was running after—he said, "That is him, policeman; he has robbed me of my watch"—I took him, but found no watch—five or six constables searched, but could not find it.
Prisoner's Defence. I saw the gentleman standing with two girls on theother side of the way; he was intoxicated; and a young man and womanwere looking at him; they ran different ways; about four young men randown the street, and 1 was stopped.
JOHN BURNHAM re-examined. I saw no girls—there were two or threemen and women walking in the street, but none running, unless it was whenmy attention was taken in stopping him—the prosecutor was a little theworse for liquor, but could run faster than me—there was no one in the streetlike the prisoner—his was a very remarkable dress.
NOT GUILTY .
SUSANNAH CRADDOCK . I am single, and live at 5, Sarah-buildings, Old-street-road—the prisoner lodged there about nine days—on 16th Aug., betweenone and two o'clock, I went out, leaving her in charge of the place—I camehome about quarter to two, and she was gone; my looking-glass drawer wasbroken open, and I missed a necklace and two rings from it—I had left itlocked—I missed two shillings from the corner drawer, which was not locked—my work-box was broken open, and I missed from it my watch and chain, which I had put in it before I went out, and three rings; also two petticoatsoff my bed—she did not tell me she was going—I saw her again on 7th May, in custody—this necklace is mine—I have one row of it in my pursenow.
ALEXANDER INGLIS ADAMS . I am assistant to Mr. Russell, a pawnbroker, of Frederick-place, Old Kent-road. I produce this necklace, pawned on 16th Aug., by a person named Martha Watson—I gave the duplicate, which Brennan has.
SUSAN WALLACE . I live at 16, Golden-terrace, Islington. The prisoner wasmy fellow servant—she left shortly before Christmas, leaving her box behindher—there was no lock on it—I found a duplicate in it, which I gave to Brennan.
Prisoner's Defence. I bought the ticket of Emma Britton, who is transported; she told her mistress that she had sold it to me; Susannah Craddock
told her she need not fear, for she would take me up for a robbery, and wouldtransport me but what she would get her things back again; she lives with areturned transport, and keeps a brothel; I had not been out of prison a daywhen I was taken.
GUILTY . * Aged 18.— Transported for Seven Years.
ELISHA JOHN BRYNE . I live at New Peckham. About half-past threeo'clock on 23rd May, I went with my wife into a public-house in Stanhope-street, Clare-market—the prisoner was sitting in the tap-room, with one leg onthe table, smoking—the landlord brought me a pint of porter—I asked him tobring some salt—my wife put a shilling close to my hand, on the table—theprisoner reached over my wife, and said, "Excuse me, Sir, but there is avery large spider there"—I turned, and saw him take the shilling—I said, "You have spidered my shilling"—I stood between him and the door, withmy stick, that he should not get out, and said, "Put my shilling on thetable"—he said, "I will give you a shilling"—the landlord sent for a police-man—the prisoner said, "Old gentleman, I want to speak to you"—I said, "I won't have anything to say to you"—he said, "Have patience; don'tlock me up; you have got your shilling, what more do you want? if you donot lock me up, I will give you 5s. 10s., or 15s. "—the policeman had myshilling then.
Prisoner. Q. Was there any one else in the room? A. Only a gentle-man, who went out when we went in—you made no resistance—you wantedto make your escape—you did not give up Your money till you were lockedup—I did not see any one look for a shilling—you might have been drinking, but you knew what you were about.
SUSANNAH BRYNE . I was with my husband—he called for a pint of beer—he had no money—I put one shilling on the table—the landlord went forsome salt—no one was there but the prisoner, us, and the landlord—the prisonersaid, "I beg your pardon, there is a great spider crawling on theseat"—my husband turned, the prisoner put his band over and slid theshilling off—my husband gave him in charge.
Prisoner, Did you look for the shilling when I was going out in charge?Witness. No, because I saw you take it.
HENRY JOHN CLIRFFORD . I keep the Crown, in Stanhope-street. Bryneand his wife came, and called for a pint of porter; I took it—Mrs. Bryne putone shilling on the table, and told me to fetch some salt and a knife—theprisoner was there smoking—when I returned there was an altercation, and Isent for the police.
CHARLES PATIENCE (policeman, F 118.) I took the prisoner—he deniedthe charge, and gave me one shilling of the present reigu and 2 1/2 d. from hispocket—I searched him and found no more—he was the worse for liquor—he said the man had got his shilling; what more did he want?
Prisoner. Q. Did you see anybody looking for the money? A. No—you gave me the money in the public-house, not in the station—you had beendrinking too much to be taken before the Magistrate that day.
Prisoners Defence. I was drunk.
GUILTY . Aged 36.— Confined Twelve Months.
WILLIAM DEVERELL . I am a Frerch-polisher, at Munster-street, Regent's-park. On the morning of 25th May, a woman came up to me in the Hampstead-road, and wanted me to go home with her—I put my hand outto remove her—she snatched my watch from my pocket and threw it intothe gutter—the guard remained on my neck—the prisoner is not the personif she is she it—greatly altered—I thought she was more masculine—somebodylaid hold of her, and I kept her till the policeman came—there was noother woman in the street—my watch was picked up in my presence—thisis it and the swivel (produced).
THOMAS WILSON (policeman, S 271.) On 29th May, I was called into Charles-street, and saw Deverell holding the prisoner—he gave her in chargefor stealing his watch—she said she had not got it, and knew nothing of it-some one opened a window and said, "There lies the watch;" a gentlemanpicked it up and gave it me—this is it—I went to the spot at daylight, andpicked up part of the swivel—the prisoner has altered very much since; shelooks much better now.
Prisoner's Defence. The man was drunk, and was very indecent; hepushed me down, and said I had taken his watch; a man picked it up.
GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined Twelve Months.
RICHARD ROLFE . I am in the employ of George John Boyce—the prisonerwas his shop-boy. On June 3rd, about half-past eleven o'clock, heswept out the shop—I called him in and said, "If you are an honest good boy, you have nothing to fear; but something is missed"—he pulled off his apronand got into great agitation—a marked sixpence fell from his waistcoatpocket; I picked it up—money had been short for weeks before—I do notknow that it was then short—I said, "I am sorry to say you are a thief"—hesaid, "I am not," but afterwards said he found it in sweeping out the shop—I think he said it was the only one he had taken.
WILLIAM BROWN . I live with Mr. Boyce. On 3rd June I marked asixpence, and laid it behind the counter at the bottom of the stairs, where wedeposit money with goods that are taken by instalments—it was not in a box—it was put to attract the prisoner—after he had swept the shop I wentthere and missed it; it was given me by Rolfe—this is it (produced)—there was 2d. there besides—he found a shilling once before, and gave itup.
Prisoners Defence. I picked it up; I intended to give it up; when Iuntied my apron it fell out of my hand.
GUILTY. Aged 13.—Strongly recommended to mercy. — Confined Fourteen Days .
ANN CONEY . I am a widow, of Becket-place, Portland-town. Coney ismy son—I wash for Mrs. Hancock, of Vernon-place, Bloomsbury-square—Isent him there for some linen—he never returned—he was brought back by Burchell two days afterwards, with the bag of wearing-apparel, which I washedand sent to Mrs. Hancock—I asked him what he had done with the things—he said he had got tipsy, and did not know—Burchell brought me three
duplicates for three shirts—I took them out, and returned them to Mrs. Hancock.
Coney. Q. What time did I leave? A. About seven o'clock in theevening; you should have returned about nine.
ANN HANCOCK . I am a widow, of Vernon-place, Bloomsbury-square. On Monday evening, 8th May, about eight o'clock, Coney came and said hismother had sent him for the clothes—I gave him a bag of linen worth 4l.—Ihave got back all but two table-cloths, three night-shirts and a silk handkerchief.
MORRIS BURCHELL . I live next door but one to Mrs. Coney. On 10th May she told me something—I went in search of Coney, found him at St. Giles', and asked what he had done with the bag of linen his mother had senthim for—he said there was a bag with a few things in it up at Humphries'house—he inquired of a person where Humphries lived—we afterwards wentto Sliort's-gardens, and saw Humphries—Coney said, "Where is that bagwith the linen in?"—he said, "You can have it: come along with me"—Iwent up into his room—both prisoners followed—I found a bag of linen andbrought it down—Humphries took it to the corner of the street, wished usgood night, and went home—just before I got to Coney's, Coney gave methree duplicates, which I gave to his mother with the bag.
JOHN FREDERICK SIMONS . I am foreman to Mr. Clark, a pawnbroker, of Long-acre. On 9th or 10th May, Humphries brought two table-cloths to myshop, one marked "A. Hancock," and another "A. H."—I asked whosethey were—he said his mother's, Mrs. Humphries, of Brownlow-street—I gavehim them back, and told a policeman to watch him—he was quite sober—hecalled again in the evening with a bed-gown, petticoat and handkerchief—Igave them back to him—he was the worse for drink then.
HENRY TOMBLIN (policeman, S 250.) On 11th or 12th May I took Coney at his mother's, and told him it was on suspicion of stealing linen—hesaid he knew nothing about the things, but if anything was missing from thebag, if I went to Short's-gardens no doubt I should get them—he was takenbefore a Magistrate and discharged—I took him again on the 18th—he saidif I went to Short's-gardens he had no doubt I should find the things; thathe recollected Samuel Boys taking some of them from the bag—I took Humphriesin Seven-dials—I told him what it was for—he said he knew all aboutit, he expected there was something up—in about half an hour he denied allknowledge of it.
Coney's Defence. I went to a public-house with the bag, fell in companywith Humphries, got drunk and slept in a lodging-house; I did not see himnext day, Tuesday, but on Wednesday he gave me the tickets; Humphriessaid at Bow-street he was sorry it happened.
Humphries' Defence. I was drinking with Coney; the landlord wouldnot draw him any beer; he asked for a bag which was behind the counter, and sent some men to pawn some things; we were to meet the menin Soho; we went there, and left the bag with the landlord, and went todifferent public-houses till the money was nearly spent; he then got somemore things; I said, "Is it all right?" he said, "I can make it all rightwhen I get to Portland-town;" he sent me to pawn some things, but theman would not take them in.
Humphries received a good character.
NOT GUILTY .
CHARLES WOOLNOUGH . I keep the New Stag, Cumberland-market; theprisoner was in my service four or five months. On 2nd June, a personcame in to see her—I went into the kitchen and found a bottle of rum—Iaccused her of taking it—she denied it—I asked to search her box—she gaveme the key willingly—I opened it in her presence and saw a shawl, which shesnatched out—I took it from her—there was a silver spoon there—I bad losttwo spoons for ten weeks—I asked her where the other was—she said sheknew nothing about it; this was hers—I put it back, locked the box, andcalled in a policeman—I told him to search the bed—he found the spoon.
Prisoner. You opened my box when I was not there. Witness. I did not.
THOMAS GOODMAN (policeman, S 70.) I was called—Mr. Woolnoughgave me two keys—I went up stairs with Mr. Woolnough and the prisoner—I searched her box in her presence, and found this silver tea-spoon, a priceof mouslin-de-laine, a baby's frock, some tea, sugar, and other things.
MARY WOOLNOUGH . I am the prosecutor's wife, and was present whenthe policeman found these articles—this silver spoon is my husband's andhas our initials on it—a child's frock and this patchwork was also found-Ihave some similar to it—this piece of linen is the same width and qualityas mine, and is fresh cut.
Prisoner's Defence. I bought the linen, and picked up the patchworkand frock.
GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined Six Months.
OSCAR SCOTT (policeman, N 144.) About twelve o'clock at night, on 6th June, I received information from a gentleman in the City-road—I listenedand heard a rustling in the garden of 29, Dalby-terrace—I went in and foundthe prisoner lying on this bundle, about three yards inside the garden, partlyconcealed in the bushes—she appeared asleep—I raised her up, and askedhow she came there, and how she got the bundle—she said she did not know—she appeared to have been drinking, but knew what she was about—shesaid she had been charing at Haberdasher-square, Hoxton—I found in thebundle two table-cloths, one pair of drawers, three shifts, a pillow-case, anight-gown, and a pinafore—I took the prisoner—she was searched—thesearcher afterwards gave me these two duplicates, for a cap and a tea-pot—at the second examination the prisoner said she lived at Little Sutton-street—I went there, but could find no such person.
WILLIAM PONDER . I live in Bridgwater-square. On 6th of June, aboutseven o'clock in the morning, my servant gave me information—I had goneto bed about half-past eleven the previous night, I believe I shut the door, I was sober—I went down stairs and missed a great coat from the front parlour, which I had left on the sofa the night before—this is it (produced)—this tea-pot is mine—I believe these table-cloths to be mine, one has myname on it—they are worth 5l. probably, but not without the coat and teapot.
THOMAS SWAINE . I am in the service of Mr. Walter, a pawnbroker, of Goswell-street—I produce a coat, pawned by the prisoner on 7th June—she saidit was her husband's—there was a glove in the pocket—I produce a tea-pot, the person who took it in is not here.
Prisoner's Defence. I picked up the things.
GUILTY * of Larceny . Aged 50.— Transported for Seven Years.
JOHN THOMPSON . I live in Earl-street, Lisson-grove. On 3rd June, about half-past twelve o'clock at night, I was in Lisson-grove—the prisonercame up to me, caught hold of my person, put her hand into my pocket, andtook out sixpence—I had two sixpences and a shilling there, not a minutebefore—I asked her for it, and said it had got a hole in it—she said she hadnot got one, all the money she had was ninepence in halfpence—she abusedme—I called a policeman, and gave her in charge—I did not lay hold of her—she did not run away.
Prisoner. Q. Did not you catch hold of me round the waist? A. No, Ihad taken the sixpence the same night, and noticed the hole in it.
CHARLES CROUCH (policeman, B 94.) Thompson pointed out the prisonerto me—I told her the charge—she said she had no sixpence, only ninepencein halfpence—I took her to the station, the searcher called out for assist-ance, I went into the cell, she had some money in her mouth—I caughthold of her, she spat two sixpences and a shilling into the searcher'sband—one had a hole in it—this is it (produced.)
ELEANOR TIBBINS . I am wife of a policeman, and search females at thestation—as soon as I took off the prisoner's shawl and bonnet, she put twofingers into her mouth, to force some money down her throat—I called forassistance—Crouch came, put his hand on her throat, and she spit two sixpencesand a shilling into my hand—this sixpence is one of them.
Prisoner's Defence. I went to look for my husband, at the corner of Church-street; Thompson caught hold of me round the waist and asked meto take a walk with him; I said I had a husband; he heard money rattle inmy pocket, and said I had robbed him; I had taken a shirt out of pledge, and got change for a sovereign, and that was the money in my mouth.
GUILTY . Aged 36.— Confined Twelve Months.
OLD COURT.—Monday, June 19th 1848.
PRESENT—Sir CHAPMAN MARSHALL, Knt., Ald.; Mr. RECORDER; Mr. Ald. MOON; and Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE.
Before Mr. Recorder and the Third Jury.
GUILTY. Aged 23.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined One Month.
FANNY SMYTH . I am the wife of William Smyth, of Middleton-raw, Dalston, in the parish of St. John's, Hackney. On Thursday morning 1st June, I was at the front kitchen window, heard some one at the closet, andcalled to know who it was—the servant answered that it was not her, she wasup stairs—I then saw the prisoner Marshall going out at the front graden, gate—I first heard the noise at the back of the house—there is a sideentrance that leads round to the back—I saw Marshall beckon to Green, whowas on the other bide of the way—they spoke together, and then separated—I ran to the cupboard, and missed the plate-basket, containing fifteen spoonsand a pair of plated nut-crackers, which I had seen safe not five minutesbefore—they were worth 7l.—the basket was found outside, at the back—thegate was not locked—I called Mr. Saver, a neighbour, pointed out Marshallto him, and asked him to take him—Green, who was on the other side of theway, was stopped by Tyler—Tyler said it was all right, Green had thrownsome spoons over the wall—I found three spoons over the wall of No. 6, among the flower-beds—two were bent, and one straight—they did notbelong to roe.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE, Q. You were in the kitchen? A. Yes—that is even with the garden—there are parluurs above, you go up a fewsteps to the house—my servant is not here—the front garden is about aslong as from me to the Judge—Marshall went to the right, a little furtherdown, and then beckoned to Green—there is no wall in the front of thehouse, it is a mere open paling—there is a house next to ours—I couldsee them very plainly, and after my suspicion that it was not all right I tookmore notice than I otherwise should have done—I looked in the cupboardbefore I spoke to any one—I did not come back to the kitchen, but directlyopened the front door, which is even with the passage, and told Mr. Sayer—Marshall was then going in one direction, and Green in the other—the wholedid not take above half a minute.
GEORGE TYLER . I am a greengrocer. On Thursday, 1st June, betweenten and eleven o'clock, I was in Middleton-row—Mrs. Smyth called to me tostop Green, who was walking away from the house—I went after him, andtook him—he drew his hands from his coat-pocket, and threw some spoonsover a garden-wall—Mrs. Smyth came up, and I told her to go and get thespoons—she went, and brought them back—when the policeman came, theprisoner denied having thrown the spoons over the wall, and having everseen me.
Cross-examined. Q. Where is your business? A. In Kingsland-road—I was going about with my dirt, serving customers.
JAMES JACQUES (policeman, N 47.) On 1st June, about a quarter-past teno'clock, I was sent for to Mrs. Smith's, and found the two prisoners in thepassage—I searched them—on Green I found 1s. 1d., andon Marshall threehalfpence, he strongly denied being the person that had been in the house—I secured the prisoners, and went with Mrs. Smyth to the back of the house, and by the balcony at the back door I found a plate-basket concealed undera carpet—it had been removed, and left behind—a person going round thehouse would have to pass the place where I found it—I took both prisonersto the station, and they there gave false addresses.
Cross-examined. Q. Have you got any body here from the house wherethey gave their address? A. No—I went to the house, and they knew nosuch person—one said he lived at Stratford-point, and the other at 22, Spencer-square, Brick-lane—I could learn nothing of them there—I amtold they are returned transports—I made inquiries in the neighbourhood,
and that was all the information. I got—I have been five years in thepolice.
GREEN GUILTY . Aged 38.
MARSHALL GUILTY . Aged 30.
Transported for Ten Years.
1547. WILLIAM STUCKBURY WILSON , stealing 1 watch, value 20l.; the goods of George Moore: and JANE GARDNER , feloniously receiving the same.—2nd COUNT, of John Hagger Allis.—3rd COUNT, of the Great Western Railway Company.
MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.
JOSEPH COLLARD . I am the principal officer of police at the station of the Great Western Railway Company at Paddington. Wilson was a porter therein the Goods-department, in Feb., 1846, and down to 27th May last—on Sundaymorning, 28th May, in consequence of a communication from the witness Price, I went to the Harcourt-street Police-station, and saw Wilson there incustody, waiting to be bailed—I asked why he was locked up—he said upona charge of assault made by his wife—I asked what had become of the goldwatch which he had about him when he was locked up last night—he said hehad given it to his wife—I said I should very much like to see it, and whenhis bail had been completed we walked together to his lodging, No. 2, Hatton-place, Portman-market—Gardner was not at home—I had been makinginquiries in the neighbourhood in the earlier part of the morning—we thenwent to 14, Luton-street, where I found Gardner—we returned to 2, Hatton-place, and I there asked Gardner to show me the gold watch which had beengiven to her the night previous by Wilson at the police-station—she asked Wilson whether she should show it—(she had previously asked in Luton-streetwhat right I had to see it, and wanted to know what I had to do with. it—I told her I was not quite sure that I had anything to do with it at present, but I possibly might have, and as a police-officer I demanded to see it)—itwas in her bosom, suspended by the chain—she endeavoured to get itout—it had slipped down, and she asked Wilson to put bis hand in and drawit out, which he did—this is it (produced)—I examined it, and found thename of "Allis, Bristol" inside—I then asked the maker's name, and thenumber, and where it was made—they said they did not know—I said, "Iam not at all satisfied, and with your consent I will retain this for the present"—I did so—Wilson told me that he had had it from his brother, who diedthree years previously, who was a chemist's assistant, and to whom it hadbeen given by his master—I asked who the master was—he named several, but could not tell which of them it was that had given him the watch—Iasked if he could refer me to any person who could satisfy me as to bow hebcame possessed of it—he at length said, "Oh yes, I have a sister living at Windsor, who will prove that it was my brother's watch, and that he leftit to me"—I went to Windsor that same evening, and saw the sister, who gave me some account—she is here—in consequence of what I learntfrom her, and from other circumstances, I apprehended Gardner on 1st June at Luton-street, and afterwards took Wilson.
Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. How long has Wilson been in the Company's service? A. About three years—his character has always beenunsuspected, or he would not have been retained—I have a watch—I do notrecollect the number of it—I know the maker, I bought it of him—I couldgive a satisfactory account of it—there are about 1, 000 porters in our establishment—at Paddington there are about 130—they are constantly changing—my district extends from London to Cheltenham—I am constantly about theline—I know what is the work of most of the porters, not individually but
generally—it was in consequence of what Wilson said to me that I went to Windsor—at the time I took Gardner—I said I wanted to speak to her andshe must go with me; and I put her into a cab, and drove her to the station—she did not consider herself in custody at that moment—I did not tell hershe was in custody till I charged her with Wilson—she betrayed no surprise—it was quite expected—I am pretty well known as an officer.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Are you able to tell whether on 2nd Feb., 1846, Wilson was acting as a porter at the Goods-department at Paddington? A. Yes, by referring to the pay-sheets, which the men sign on receiving theirwages—they are not here—I can fetch them—(the witness was directed todo so.)
JOHN HENRY PRICE . I am a gas-fitter, and live at 24, Wyndham-street—I keep the house, and have been there eighteen years. On Saturday night, 27th May last, I happened to be at the Harcourt-street station, and saw theprisoners there—Wilson was dressed as a railway porter—he was chargedwith assaulting Gardner—he was searched—he produced a gold watch—thepoliceman took it from him, and it was given to Gardner—she had previouslyasked for some silver that was taken from him, and likewise a knife—herefused to give her either, but he gave her the watch, and I understood himto say, "It is yours, you may take it"—perceiving that it was gold, and amodern watch, in consequence of suspicions I went next morning to Collard, and told him what I had seen—I afterwards accompanied Collard to Hatton-place, where the prisoners lived, and Gardner produced the watch—Collardasked whose it was—Wilson said, "It is mine"—he asked where he got it—he said it was left him by a deceased brother, I think he said about threeyears ago, and he referred Collard to his sister at Windsor—on the Saturdaynight, when Gardner left the station with the watch, I went with her—shetold me that it was her watch, that it was given her by her grandfather, andshe had had it ten years—" Indeed," she said, "I call it my child."
Cross-examined. Q. What did you happen to be doing at the station?A. I live in the neighbourhood, and am often there—I was sworn in as aspecial constable—I went to the station from curiosity—I have been awitness many times—I got as much out of the prisoner as I could—I consideredit part of my duty as a special constable—I was on the Jury herelast Session—I was never in the dock—I have seen a great many prisonerssearched—the watch was taken from Wilson and put on the table, and hetook it up and gave it to her—though he refused to let her have the moneyor knife, he was willing to give her the watch, which caused me to suspectthat something was wrong.
GEORGE MOORE . I am a watchmaker, at 23, Perceval-street, Clerkenwell. I made this watch for Mr. Allis, of Bristol, and sent it by a lad, who has leftmy emplovment, to Parker's, the carrier's, at the New-inn, Old Bailey, to besent by rail, on 2nd Feb. 1846—I have Parker's receipt for it—it was packedin a small box, covered with brown paper, about the size of this Testament, and about six inches deep—it was filled up with hay or something for safety—the watch was made to a particular order—I know this to be the same—Iput Mr. Allis' name on it, and the number—it is one of the best make—Icharged 20l. for it.
Cross-examined. Q. Has Mr. Allis paid you for it? A. He has—hedirected me to send it by Parkers', at least those were my general instructions—I had no particular directions with regard to this parcel—Parkers' are carriersto the railway—I do not know whether they have their own establishmentand carriages on the railway.
JOHN HAGGER ALLIS . I am a watchmaker, at Bristol. At the end of 1845 or the beginning of 1846, I ordered a watch of Mr. Moore—it was tobe of a particular kind, for a particular order—there were no particularinstructions as to the forwarding of that parcel, I believe; but I had giveninstructions for parcels to be forwarded by Parker's, they being carriers on the Great Western Railway—that watch never came to hand—my name was tobe on it, as it was prepared according to a plan of my own, and was of rathera peculiar construction.
Cross-examined. Q. Was this the first watch of the kind that you hadbad made? A. I believe it was.
CYRUS SYMES . I am clerk to Messrs. Pickfords', the carriers. In 1846 Iwas in the service of Mr. Richard Parker, of the New Inn, Old Bailey—thisreceipt in the book, produced by Mr. Moore, is the writing of William Sells, whose duty it was to receive things remitted to Mr. Parker, to be forwardedby railway—this way-bill of 2nd Feb., 1846, (produced,) is my writing—there is an entry of a parcel here, marked 2d., that is my writing—I rememberthat parcel—it was a small brown paper one, directed to Mr. Allis, fouror five inches long, and about an inch and a half deep—I believe that it wasforwarded in due course to the railway—it was merely a nominal weight—itwas entrusted to the care of a man who took the wagon from here to the Paddington station.
Cross-examined. Q. This is a bill given to the wagoner?A. Yes; byme—I have nothing to do with the goods after entering them.
WILLIAM SELLS . The signature in this book is mine—I received theparcel to which it refers, and placed it where we usually put our parcels to be done off to go into the wagon to the railway—Mr. Symes made up the way-bill—he has the parcels before him as he enters them.
WILLIAM SISLEY . I am in the service of the Great Western Railway Company, and clear the parcels outwards—I was acting in that capacity inthe goods department on 2nd Feb., 1846—this way-bill is one that waschecked and examined by me on that day—all the parcels were correct exceptthe one addressed to Mr. Allis, and against that I put in the margin, in redink, "Not to hand"—this is my writing—that parcel was missing—it nevercame to my hand—the prisoner Wilson was at that time one of the porters atthat station—it would be his duty to be on the spot on that day.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you examine and check the things off directlythey came in? A. Yes—I cannot say at what time the wagon arrived, butdirectly I was ordered to go and get the goods off, I went—I did not takethem out of the wagon myself—there was a man on the wagon to call themover to me, and I checked them off—I cannot say whether the wagoner wasthere at that time, he is so generally—sometimes an officer of the railroaddelivers the articles for me to check off, and sometimes the man in the cart—the porters assist in unloading—I cannot say whether the prisoner was one ofthose unloading—some of us have day duty and some night duty—the goodsare never unloaded before I make the bill out—they are put off one at a timeand called off—the cart was then within the shed.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Is it a part of the duty of the porters of the goods'department to assist in unloading the wagons and carts? A. It is—a porterin the act of unloading would have the opportunity of withdrawing any smallparcel—when we find a parcel missing, we put "Not to hand"—the way-billremains with the clerk in the office.
MARY SMITH . I live at 14, Luton-street. I have known the prisonerstwo years and a half, through attending upon two elderly ladies, who werein the same house when they took it—they lived together, and I worked forthe female—about a year and a half ago I saw her in possession of a gold watchlike the one produced in shape and size—I cannot speak positively to it, Idid not notice it much—she told me it was her watch, and her grandfatherhad given it her.
JOHN MERRALL . I am one of the porters of the Great Western Railway Company at Didcot—I know Gardner—I saw her with a gold watch, likethis, about twelve months ago—she said it was left her by a dear relation—she told me her husband was a porter at Paddington station—I never spoketo him.
Cross-examined. Q. How many times did you see the watch? A. Ibelieve only once—it had no chain to it then—she wore it in her bosom, andtook it out to tell me the time—I think I saw it twice.
ANN HAWKINS . I am the wife of Henry Hawkins, one of Her Majesty'sgrooms, at Windsor—Wilson is my brother—I was staying with him in Salisbury-street from Oct., 1846, to April, 1847—I thought he was marriedto Gardner—during that time I saw her with a watch like this—she told meit was her mother's—I had a brother, who died eight years ago—he was apprenticedto Mr. Silas, a chemist, of Birmingham—I never recollect seeinghim with a watch, but he left a watch to my brother—I cannot say whetherit was gold or silver, I never saw it, but I heard my eldest brother say heought to have had it, and not the prisoner.
Cross-examined. Q. What character has your brother borne? A. Alwaysa good one.
JAMES FELL . I acted as principal clerk to the Magistrate at the examinationof the prisoners on this charge on 1st June—after the evidence had beengone through, Wilson was asked if he desired to say anything—I took downwhat he said in the Magistrate's presence—I read it over—the Magistratesigned it, and the prisoner, who said it was taken correctly—(read—Wilsonsays, "I says that I did not steal it; it teas given to me by my friends; it belongedto my brother, who is deceased, and I had it after his death." Gardner says, "I do not know that I have anything to say. "There was a further examinationon 8th June—Wilson then said, "The statement of the first witness (Price) at Harcourt-street, is false; the watch was not on the table; I did notsay the watch was hers. "Gardner says, "I do not know how Wilson came bythe watch; I had been in Paddington six months before I saw the watch Mr. Wilson took the coat he now has on out of a large box, and put his handinto the pocket and took this small watch out, and asked me how I liked it; Itold him I liked it very well; I asked him how much he gave for it; he said hedid not give anything for it, that his brother gaze it him. "
JOSEPH COLLARD re-examined. I have now got the wages book of theporters—I have seen Wilson write many times—the porters are required tosign their names when they are paid—this is the sheet of attendance andpayment for the week ending—4th Feb., 1846—if Wilson had been absentany day during that week, it would appear here in the column of days and isthe reduction of wages also—he charges for wages for the seven days towhich he puts his name—he was on night duty at that time—the goods trains
leave at half-past nine at night and half-past four in the morning—the goodssometimes arrive a considerable time before they are sent off.
WILLIAM SISLEY re-examined. I cannot say whether it was for the morningor evening train that I put that memorandum "Not to hand"—I cannotrecollect whether it was light or dark at the time—I was not on night dutythen—my day duty lasted from half-past eight till half-past nine o'clock—some of the porters come on night duty at half-past four, and some at eight.
JOSEPH COLLARD re-examined. I have no means of ascertaining whether Wilson came on at half-past four or eight o'clock—I am not aware that anyinquiry was made by the railway authorities as to this parcel, because theysupposed it had never come into their possession—I believe inquiries weremade by Mr. Parker and Mr. Allis, and bills printed and a reward offered.
WILSON— GUILTY . Aged 25.— Transported for Seven Years. GARDNER— GUILTY. Aged 26.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Six Months.
NEW COURT.—Monday, June 19th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. GIBBS and Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Fifth Jury.
MESSRS. BODKIN and METCALFE conducted the Prosecution.
BARTHOLOMEW HOGGER (policeman, N 72.) I was on duty in the neighbourhoodof Bonner's-fields on Sunday, 4th June. I was called to assist inclearing Cambridge-street—there were about thirty persons assembled oneach side of the road—I saw the prisoner there—I ordered him to move on—he refused to do so, but he did not say anything—he would not move—Itold him again he must move, and I placed my hand on him to induce himto move—some one in the mob called out to him to pitch into me, and hetamed round and kicked me in the groin—I then struck him with my staff—I felt the effects of the kick for two or three days.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Where was the prisoner? A. In the road—the crowd was more on the pathway—there were a number ofpersons on the right side—I said, "Go on," he would not, and I put myband on him; I did not put my hand on him before he could go on; he bad time enough for that—I should say it took a minute—we wanted toclear the street—I had my staff in my hand—I put both my hands on hisshoulders; I did not push him—he did not push me back before he kickedme—he hit me with his fist and knocked me down—he did not hinder mefrom using my staff to him—I struck him on the arm once, and I think onceon the back—I did not strike him on the neck or head—he ran away, andmy brother officer ran and took him—I helped to take him—I was not under Medical treatment—he kicked me before I struck him; I did not push himfirst.
FRANCIS DEFRATES (policeman, K 61.) I was in the street with Hogger—I saw the prisoner there, and heard Hogger request him to pass on—hedid not do so, and Hogger placed his hand on him, but not with any violence—some words passed, "but I cannot say what—I then saw the prisoner kick
Holder on the groin, or near there—Hogger then struck the prisoner withhis staff—the prisoner then struck him again, and knocked him down.
Cross-examined. Q. Were you near him? A. I was about two yardsfrom him—I was desiring the crowd generally to go on; that was my duty—I saw him go up to the prisoner, and to the best of my recollection he puthis right hand on him: that was the hand he had his staff in—I did not beenwhat passed between them—Hogger did not lay hold of him; he nerebyplaced his hand on his shoulder—I should say the blow with the staff wasgiven about a minute after he placed his hand on his shoulder.
MR. BODKIN. Q. Did Hogger strike him or use any violence to himbefore he struck him? A. He did not.
GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined Six Months, and to enter into his own recongnizanceto keep the pence for Two Years.
MESSRS. RYLAND and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
JAMES HARRINGTON (policeman, N 326.) On Sunday, 4th June, I was on duty in Bethnal-green with a party of police—the streets were denselycrowded with people; I should say there were three hundred persons in thestreet where we met the prisoner—we had orders to endeavour to clear thestreet—I saw the prisoner—he cried out, "The b—y police and the b—yspecials—I heard him in particular; I did not hear other persons utteringthe same sort of cries—I went up to the prisoner, told him to go on, and togo home—he did not move on—he put his hand into his pocket and broughta knife out—he opened it, and said he would stab the first b—y policemanthat came to him—I went up to endeavour to seizing him—on my seizing him he made a thrust at my groin with this knife (produced)—the point of ittouched my clothes—another policeman came at that moment and struck theprisoner on the arm as he made a second thrust at me—the prisoner and Iwere then holding each other—he had a knife in his hand—Southwell struckhim, and I got the knife from him.
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. You took him into custody at thatplace? A. Yes—we had been driving the crowd away—I had nothingbesides my staff—there were about forty of us, and eight or ten mountedpolice—we were clearing the crowd away, and desiring the people to go on, and the mounted police were there with their cutlasses assisting us—theprisoner was standing up—all I heard him say was those offensive expressions—many persons spoke, but I took no notice of what they said—the streetwas crowded with persons—we had orders to disperse them, without allowingany speaking or anything of that sort.
COURT. Q. What time was this? A. About twelve o'clock in the day.
----TARLTON. I am inspector of police. I was on dutyin the neighbourhood of Birdcage-walk—I was directed to go with a party ofmy division to Nova Scotia Gardens—I took six sergeants and forty constables—I found the mob in the gardens consisted of about five hundredpersons—on our arrival they came from the adjoining streets to the amountof about three thousand—on the appearance of our party the mob began toyell, and there were cries of "Down with the b—y police! give the b—rsthe brickbats!"—things were then thrown, and I was knocked down—(I didnot see the prisoner there)—in consequence of that I directed my men
to draw their truncheons, and disperse the mob, who were then in frontcharge us—I saw several persons afterwards—I cannot identify the prisoner—I do not know how far Birdcage-walk is from where I was—the Bird-cagepublic-house is just adjoining—Harrington was on duty there undermy command.
JAMES HARRINGTON Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Was not the prisonercrossing over the road in a direction to the barber's shop, when he was knockeddown by some of the police? A. No, he was standing—I did not see himstrike anybody—I believe he was obliged to go to the hospital—I told him togo home," because he was standing in the mob, and saying, "Down with theb----y police"—he said that before anybody interfered with him—he wastold to go home before he said anything—I heard him say, "B----y police, and by specials," when he was told to go home—I did not see him beforethat—he was in the mob—I do not know that he was going to get shaved—I interfered with him because he was making a noise, and saying, "Downwith the police"—we told the mob to go home, and I specified him—thatwas before I heard him say, "Down with the by police and the specials "—I spoke to him first—I had my truncheon in my hand.
MR. RYLAND. Q. Were you ordered to that spot by Inspector Tarlton?A. Yes—when I got there I found a crowd—the prisoner was one of thecrowd—we had been ordered to disperse that crowd—before we said anythingthe crowd said, "Down with the by police," and the prisoner said it inparticular—on hearing that cry, I went up to him and desired him to gohome, and when I told him to go on, and go home, he took the knife fromhis pocket.
COURT. Q. Do you recollect Tarlton coming? A. Yes—I was not presentwhen he was knocked down—I saw brickbats thrown, before I spoke to-theprisoner—he was with the multitude when the brickbats were thrown—it was so instantaneous he must have been—he was in the middle of thecrowd where these brickbats came from, and it was after they were thrownthat I told him to go home—I am sure the brickbats were thrown at me andthe other policemen from the spot in which the prisoner appeared to be, before I spoke to him.
MR. PAYNE. Q. Do you mean you ever saw this man in the crowd beforethe bricks were thrown? A. The brickbats were thrown before I cameup—I did not see the prisoner till I came up.
ROBERT SOUTHWELL (policeman, N 83.) On the 4th June, I and Harringtonand other policemen went to Birdcage-walk, by order of Mr. Tarlton—I found between two and three hundred persons assembled—wereceived orders to disperse the meeting—I saw the prisoner when I first gotup to the mob—I saw throwing of stones at the police—I saw Harringtongo up to the prisoner—he told him to move on—he did not—he drew hisknife from his waistcoat-pocket, opened it, and said he would stab Harrington, and he made an attempt at his groin—the knife went close to his dress—it must have touched him—in the scuffle the prisoner was on the ground, and he then made a thrust at Harrington's stomach as he was leaning overhim—I saw the dangerous situation he was in, and I immediately struck himviolently on the head—another officer had struck him before—I did not seethe first attempt—it was the second attempt I saw when he was on theground.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Was the prisoner taken to the hospital?A. He was taken to the station-house, and afterwards to the hospital
—the policeman was not injured, but the prisoner had a wound on the had—there were three of us on him at once, and he was on the ground—it waswhen three policemen with their truncheons were over him that he attemptedto use the knife, and I struck him on the head to prevent him—he bled a gooddeal—I did not notice that his shirt was covered with blood—I saw the blood running from his head.
ALFRED ANDREWS (policeman, N 212.) I was on duty on 4th June, near Birdcage-walk—I saw the meeting, and heard orders given to dispersethe people—I saw Southwell and Harrington there—I saw the prisoner—he remained at the corner of the street—Harrington went up to him, andrequested him to go away—he put his hand into his wais coat-pocket, drew aknife, opened it, and attempted to stab him—nothing had been said to himbefore that, further than requesting him to go away—we had been dispersingthe mob before—I did not hear anything said by the prisoner, but heattempted to stab—he was standing then—I saw Harrington rushing at himand when he made a second stab I struck him on the arm with my truncheon—I then saw him down—he made another attempt, and Southwell struckhim on the head with his truncheon.
Witnesses for the Defence.
JOHN MILES . I live at 20, Turk-street, Bethnal-green, and am a tin plateworker. On Sunday, 4th June, about ten minutes before twelve o'clock, Iwas at my own house—I looked out of the window, and saw there was a bitof a noise about the street with the police—I saw about seven or eightpolicemen coming along—I thought I would make it my business to go andsee what they were committing—I went as far as the bottom of the street to Mr. Ellis', the hair-dressers—I saw the prisoner at the corner of Turk-streetin his shirt sleeves, and his hands were up—I saw one policeman come up tohim—I think it was. No. 77—I should know him if I saw him—the prisonerwas doing nothing, but seemed to be walking from the corner to the barber'sshop—I saw the policeman rush up to him and strike him with his truncheonon the head—I told that policeman I did not like to see such brutality—Isaid, "It is a shame of you"—he said, "We will serve you the same"—theblow on the prisoner seemed to cut his head—the blood flowed immediately—he could not help himself—they pushed him on the pavement—I sawabout seven persons beating him—I do not think he could do anything, hewas too helpless—I did not see him attempt to do anything to the police—Isaw him on the ground—he did not raise his hands—when he was got up hishead was on his shoulder—I said, "Good God! you have killed that man"—did not see a tobacco-box, or any knife or weapon in his hand at the time hewas struck—I did not see any knife during any part of the transaction—I sawhim taken by two policemen—I was standing on the kerb stone on the oppositeside—I did not go to the station—I did not like to venture so far asthat—I did not see the prisoner associating with any other persons—he hadno person with him—I do not know him at all—I came here voluntarily—I do not think he had a hat on.
JURY. Q. Were you near enough to hear the policeman speak to him?A. I do not think I was—it was about thirty yards from the spot where I was standing.
EDWARD REED . I live in Nelson-street. I know the prisoner—I sawhim on Sunday, 4th June—he went out without his hat or coat, to get shaved—I was standing at my own door opposite him—it wanted three or fourminutes to twelve o'clock when he left—I heard of the circumstance about a
quarter of an hour afterwards, but I did not know it was the same person—he was taken to the hospital—he is a weaver, and is a peaceable hard workingman. (The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 18— Confined Eighteen Months, and to enter into his own recognizances for Two Years.
MESSRS. RYLAND and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
RICHARD CLARKE (policeman, N 223.) On Sunday morning, 4th June, alittle before eleven o'clock, I was on duty in Birdcage-walk—Randall, who was with me, pointed out Margrie to me—I followed him, and sawhim pick up a stone—he raised his arm, as if he were going to throw itat the police—I seized his arm—he turned round to me—I told him I was apolice-constable—he dropped the stone, and I took it up—this is it (produced)—when the police came on the ground I heard the people begin tohoot them—I did not see them do anything.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Whereabouts was this? A. In anopen piece of ground near the Birdcage-walk—I did not see Margrie put anystone into his pocket—when I told him I was a police-constable he dropped thestone—I did not see whether any stone struck him—he did not complain ofthat—there were 200 or 300 persons there—I did not see any stone thrown.
CHARLES RANDALL (policeman, N 172.) I was on duty in Birdcage-walkwith Monagha on 4th June, about eleven o'clock—when I first wentthere had been a meeting for a few minutes—I heard a cry of "Police!" andthe speaker got down—I saw the persons who were round him go to Crab-tree-row—I saw Margrie stoop down, pick up a stone, and put it into hiscoat-pocket—he went on to Crab-tree-row with the mob—I saw stonesthrown towards the police, and there was a yelling and hooting—the stoneswere thrown from the part of the mob in which Margrie was—I followed Margrie after I pointed him out to Clarke—he went into Nova Scotia-gardens, where the speaker bad been—I then saw him stoop again, and pickup another large stone—he raised his arm up in the direction of throwing ittowards four or five policemen—Clarke caught hold of his arm, which preventedhis throwing the stone, and he dropped it at his feet—he was taken tothe station—he took off his hat at the corner of Brick-lane, and cried, "Three cheers for the Chartists!"—we were near the mob at that time—therewere fifty or a hundred persons—there were no stones thrown at thatmoment, but there were a few minutes before—there were six mounted policethere—a minute or two before Margrie took off his hat, and cried "Threecheers," four of the mounted police had galloped down the street, and chargedthe mob to keep them back—I found this stone in Margrie's pocket—it lookslike the one I first saw him put into his pocket.
Cross-examined. Q. Before you saw him do that, had there been stonesthrown? A. No—the police had not come in sight—the on moved onfrom the speaker, and the police came in sight, and Margrie then took up thestone—I am sure he had not been struck—he threw no stone at the time Clarke got up and took his arm—there had been stones thrown.
JAMES KENDALL (policeman, N 417.) I was on duty in Nova Scotia-p'tienson Sunday morning, 4th June—there were between 500 and 600 persons collected—I saw Hall there standing by himself—the mob were dispersing—he took up a stone, threw it towards my brother policeman, Monagha, and struck him on the mouth—he took up another stone, and was
about throwing it—I made my way towards him—he dropped the stone—me I away, and entered into a person's house—whether he lived there or not Icannot tell—he got through, and entered another house—I went and took him—he had nothing with him.
Cross-examined. Q. Did he not complain that he had a blow from astone? A. No—he told me that he had been struck by a policeman'struncheon, and it vexed him so much that he turned and took a stone andthrew it—this was after the police were ordered to come in to disperse themob—I was in uniform.
MR. RYLAND. Q. You did not see anybody strike him? A. No—hehad not the least appearance of being ill-used.
JAMES MONAGHA (policeman, N 169). I was on duty in Nova Secotia-gardens, about half-past eleven o'clock, on 4th June—I saw a mob there—wehad orders to disperse them, and we did so—I saw the prisoner Hall runningaway—just before he ran I was struck with a brickbat on the cheek, and mymouth was cut—I did not see who did it.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you see the stone thrown? A. No—I did notstrike him—I did not hear him complain that he was passing by himself, andhad a blow on his arm from a stone, and that he took up a stone—I did notsee him struck.
Margrie. I was standing with my back towards the police.
(Hall received a good character.) HALL— GUILTY . Aged 38. MARGRIE— GUILTY. Aged 29.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury. — Confined Six Months, and to enter into their own recognizances for One Year.
MESSRS. RYLAND, BODKIN, and METCALFE conducted the Prosecution.
LAURENCE WYATT (policeman, H 77.) On Sunday, 4th June, I was onduty in Birdcage-walk about twelve o'clock—there were three or four hundredpersons—as I was walking along, a great many collected on the payement—we were ordered to try to disperse the mob—I went and desired themto go home—a man came towards me with the point of a pike—I could nottake him—I was there by myself, and one was pushing me and anotherpushed me—the man ran into a house, and I shut the door to keep him there—therewere a great many stones thrown, and I was obliged to go—I wenttowards the Birdcage—I saw Yaton—he threw a brick violently, whichstruck me on the leg—he was about fifteen yards from me—that was aboutten minutes after the other stones were thrown—Yaton was amongst the last ofthe crowd that was follow in? me—three stones struck me, one on my head, andanother on the spine of my back—a great many stones went through windows—I heard crics of "Give it to them, give it to them"—I did not dare to take Yaton when he threw the brick—there were a great many persons there—Isaw him about ten minutes afterwards, about two hundred yards from theplace—I recognized him directly, and took him into custody—I am quite surehe threw the brick.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Who struck you on the back?A. I cannot tell, but Yaton threw the brick—there were about twenty-fivepersons about me—they were all throwing at me, and some hooting andhurrahing—I was going toward Hackney-road—I did not take any of themthen—mamy of the persons were dressed alike, in old coats and fustian jackets
—I was obliged to run, but I turned my head round, and saw this brickthrown, which struck me on the leg.
MR. BODKIN. Q. Do you know Mr. Burnett, who. was acting as a specialconstable. A. Yes; I did not see him there at that time—I had not known Yaton before, but I took particular notice of him—as soon as he had thrownone stone, he threw another—I did not go after him—he drew back into thecrowd—I took notice enough of him to be able to swear he is the person.
JOHN BURNETT . I live in Bethnal-green, I was acting as a special constablein Birdcage-walk on 4th June, at nearly one o'clock, I saw stones and bricksthrown at the police by the prisoner Payne—I had. him under my noticenearly two hours—he was one of the mob, and acting with them during thattine—after I had followed him some time he stood in front of the Birdcage, and I heard him say, "I gave it to that old br, I nearly knocked him offhis horse—the police were then drawn off—I should have given him incustody if I could—there had been mounted police there—after Payne hadused that expression, I saw him empty his pockets of thirteen or fourteenlarge stones, such as they macadamize the streets with—I took them up andlooked at them—he was then at the end of Virginia-row—after he had emptiedhis pockets of the stones, there was a respectable man coming by, and Iheard Payne say, "Come on, give it to the by special"—I saw him onthe Monday morning, and gave him in custody.
(Payne received a good character,) YATON— GUILTY. Aged 22.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury. — Confined Six Months. PAYNE— GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined One Year, and to enter into Recognizances.
MESSRS. RYLAND and METCALFE conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN STYMAN (policeman, G 219.) I was on duty in Birdcage-walk on 4th June, about half-past eleven o'clock—there were two, three, or fourthousand persons there—orders were given to clear the people, and we didso—in doing so I had to pass the prisoner's door—I turned my head and sawhim stand at the door with another person—he deliberately hurled at me aginger-beer bottle—it passed within three inches of my face—I had not saidanything to him—I went to him, and he turned back, and went down thepassage into the yard, and went over the paling—in his so doing, I struckhim on the leg with my truncheon—he went into the next house and shut thedoor—I took him in an exhausted state—he said he was not standing at thedoor at the time—the bottle he threw broke all to pieces against the kerb onthe opposite side.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE.Q. Do you mean you saw this manthrow the bottle? A. I did, with his right hand—I was about four yardsfrom him—I suppose there were not above thirty persons where we stood—the other persons were going on a—head—there was another man named Stratford on the prisoner's left hand side—I had not been having anything todrink—I was going along the street, following the other constables—therewere some mounted police there—I suppose they were scouring the streets—some of them were before, and some behind—they were pursuing the peoplewith their drawn swords, and we were driving them with truncheons.
MR. RYLAND. Q. Have you ascertained whether Stratford lives nextdoor to the prisoner? A. No.
Gibraltar-walk, and Stratford with him—as I was passing I felt somethinghit my leg, and, at the moment, it fell on the opposite side of the road andbroke—it was a ginger-beer bottle—it fell on the kerb-stone, and smashed topieces—I immediately made towards the house—theprisoner ran in—then were a good many persons about at the time, and several stones flying aboutin different directions—I cannot say who they were thrown at, I suppose atthe police—there was shouting, and very bad language used by the peopleout of doors and windows, calling the police b—y vagabonds and b—ywretches.
Cross-examined. Q. Were there people flying? A. There were peoplerunning down the street—two horse patrol went with us—I did not seewhether they had their swords drawn—I was not paying attention to thehorse, but to my own duty—I have not heard of a reporter getting his arebroken by a policeman.
EDWARD BARBER (policeman, N 387.) I was there in plain clothes—thepolicemen were dispersing the mob—I was not assisting, but standing, lookingon—I saw, five or six doors down Gibraltar-walk, theman come from lie door-way, and throw part of a ginger-beer bottle, which struck on the otherside of the way—I saw the policeman rush into the house—I went andpicked up the pieces of bottle which I now produce—the house the policerushed in was the next door to the prisoner's house—as far as I could see, there were two hands raised at the time the bottle was thrown—I could notsay which threw it—I saw the prisoner brought from the nest house tothe one the bottle was thrown from—there was a great mob, andthere had been stones thrown—Wilkinson was on duty.
Cross-examined. Q. You were going along as well as Wilkinson and theothers? A. Yes—I cannot identify who threw the bottle—I saw no mountedpolice—there were some in the adjoining street—I saw some behind me, atthe corner of the Birdcage—I will not swear that there were not some beforeme driving the people on a—head.
ALFRED ANDREWS . I live at Homerton. I was sworn in, and was onduty as a special constable, in Gibraltar-walk, about twelve o'clock, on 4th June—the police were under orders to clear away the mob—there was acry for the police to go to a street in Gibraltar-walk—a large body did go—I walked on the path, and saw the prisoner standing at the door of No. 6, Gibraltar-walk—Stratford was in his company—I saw them both incitetheir bodies, and throw something across the road, while the police werepassing along—there were policemen right opposite to that door—I thinksomething passed near the face of one policeman—I afterwards heard a shrillsound of something falling on the ground—I was about a yard and ahalf from that door-way—I called the police and forced the door—the prisonerlives at No. 5, and Stratford at No. 6—Stratford's landlord sells ginger-beer.
Cross-examined. Q. What are you? A. A compositor and reporter—I did not hear that a reporter had his arm broken—I was there as a reporter, or a special constable—I decline to say what paper I report for—I wrote ashort account of the transansaction—I afterwards abrogated it.
----TARLTON (police-inspector.) I was in Gibraltar-walk at the timethe prisoner was brought out of the house in custody—there were twomounted police at one end of the street, and four at the other end—therewere none with their swords drawn under my command that morning.
Cross-examined. Q. Do you mean to swear that you saw them all the time?A. Not all the time—I had orders, and gave them their orders—I saw them
at intervals—I should say the four mounted police were 400 yards from thetwo—they had been driving the people away by my orders, both in advanceof Wilkinson and behind him—we commenced at the end of the street, anddrove them up the street—I ordered them to remain there, to keep the mobfrom coming into the street again.
JURY to JOHN STYMAN. Q. Did you see the bottle—which came fromthe prisoner's hand strike Wilkinson? A. I do not know, I saw it pass myface, I turned round, it fell down and smashed all to pieces—my eyes weredirected to the persons standing at the door—the prisoner ran away.
COURT. Q. Whether the bottle struck anybody else after it passed yourface, are you able to say? A. No, I am not—I was nearly in the middle ofthe road, about four yards from the man.
MR. PAYNE called
ELIZABETH KING . I live at No. 6, Gibraltar-walk, and am the wife of apoliceman. I saw the prisoner between eleven and twelve o'clock last Sundayweek, when they say a ginger beer bottle was, thrown—I did not see Styman nor Wilkinson—I saw a ginger beer bottle thrown—it was not theprisoner who threw it.
JANE MEARS . I live in Weatherhead-gardens—last Sunday week I wentto see my brother at Mr. Strapp's, in Gibraltar-walk—I saw a person comein and conceal himself under the bed in the front-room—that was not Mr. Strapp—he did not throw any ginger beer bottle—he was sitting by thefire.
JURY. Q. Do you know—who he was that concealed himself? A. Mr. Ward, who lives at the next house.
CAROLINE WITTINGTON . I live in Gibraltar-walk—my husband is a milk-man—I was present there between eleven and twelve o'clock on 4th June—Isaw a person throw a bottle—it was not the prisoner, he did not throw anybottle—I know the person who did throw it—there were two persons standingtogether—the prisoner was not near them, he was in at No. 5.
GUILTY . Aged 31— Confined Nine Months, and to enter into Recognizancesto keep the peace for Two Years.
MR. BODKIN offered no evidence.
NOT GUILTY .
NOT GUILTY .
THIRD COURT.—Monday, June 19th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. SALOMONS; Mr. Ald. FINNIS; Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE, and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq., and the First Jury.
GUILTY , and received a good character.—Aged 37.— Confined Four Months.
MR. ROBINSON conducted the Prosecution.
MARY ANN BATSMAN . My husband keeps a public-bouse, in Titchfieldstreet—I attend to the business—I take my money into my bed-room in abag; having missed some three times, a friend of mine marked 20l.—I afterwardstook 12l. out, leaving 8l. in the bag—the prisoner was with me fiveweeks; she used to bring the money bag down for me and I used then tocount it—on 1st June I asked to see what money she had—she said her purse was up stairs in her pocket, and I could fetch it—I went and found 9s. in it, three of them marked—Ihanded it to her—she saw the amount—I said they were mine—she said her brother gave them her on the Sunday—these are them (produced)—they are mine—she had very few clothes whenshe came, but she has several new things now—when money was first missedshe said she had been shopping with her mother, and showed me eight yardsof silk which she had bought—I missed 1l. 12s. 6d. from the bag—I hadcounted it the night before.
Cross-examined by MR. WILDE. Q. When was it marked? A. On 23rd—I took out the 12l. for circulation on the 27th, in the evening—Miss Smithtook the money to her house to mark, that no one might see it done—it wasbrought back by my father, counted and locked up in a cupboard, where itremained till half-past ten or eleven o'clock at night, when I took it out, laidit on the table and called the prisoner, who carried it up stairs and put it in myroom while I carried the candle—the prisoner brought it down next morning, and I counted it—I did so every day after breakfast—it was then locked upin the same cupboard and taken up in the evening by the prisoner—I neverallowed the servant to take it up after the prisoner came—it was put up ina paper in separate pounds—I kept the key—there is nothing kept in the closetwhich would be wanted—I allowed no one to count it, or to give change for anote—my husband never gives change unless I am out—the keys were neverout of my pocket—I found a pawn ticket in the prisoner's box, and accused herof pawning her things—she said it was her brother's wife's—her brothers is Mr. Amos, the engineer—she bought some blonde and a visite at Poppy's, for 1l. 14s. 5 1/2 d.—she did not tell me she had more than 2l. from her brotherwhen she came to me, or say what money she had—I had a good characterswith her—I did not count my money in the evening, except my daily takings—it was the prisoner's duty to make the beds—I believe no one assisted herbut once—I had three young men in my employ, and my son who is sixteen—on 1st June I got up about nine o'clock, that was my usual time-directlythe breakfast things are cleared I ring for the prisoner to bring downthe bag—my husband said if she would tell the truth he would send heraway, and not take any more trouble about it—her late mistress told me shehad 1l. 15s. when she left her three weeks before.
MR. ROBINSON. Q. Did any one have access to the closet? A. Notwithout a skeleton key—I was generally down after my husband—I used tolisten to hear if the prisoner went into the bed-room—I believe Ann Sheenedid not go into the bed-room.
ELIZABETH SMITH . I am a friend of Mrs. Bateman. About 23rd May Imarked some money—these three shillings have my mark—on 1st June Iwent up stairs with the prisoner to get her keys—she said she could not findthem, and went down into the kitchen and looked in a little box, then wentup again, took a key from under the mattress and said she had found it—Iinformed Mr. Bateman.
Cross-examined. Q. Can you swear these are part of the 12l. takenaway, or of the 8l. left? A. No—the key she produced did not fit the cash-box
—her work-box was unlocked—I did not hear the prisoner say there wasonly 6s. or 7s. in her purse—she said what was there belonged to her—Ann Sheehan slept in the room.
ANN SHEHAIT . I am servant to Mrs. Bateman. I took no money out ofher room on 1st June—I was not in the room before twelve o'clock in theday—when the prisoner came she wore one dress, and brought one in abuadle—her things increased very much—I saw three new dresses and amantle, which she said she paid 19s. 6d. for, and 15s. 6d. for a child'smantle.
Cross-examined. Q. Any parasol? A. Yes—she gave 2s. 1 1/2 d. for that—her mother, who is a farmer's wife, I believe, came three or four times—shewas only in town a short time—the prisoner told me her mother allowed her 6l. a year—she bought some bonnets for her sister; one was for herself—shesaid her mother had paid for them.
ROBERT WALLIS (policeman E 146.) I took the prisoner—shesaid she knew nothing about the money under the mattress, but that in her purse wasbars, that she did not know how the marked money came there, unless someone put it there—there was 1l. 12s. 10d. marked in the handkerchief.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
NOT GUILTY .
(Mr. ROBINSON offered no evidence.)
NOT GUILTY .
1558. HENRY DOUGLAS, SAMUEL SMITH, THOMAS JONES , and ELIZABETH SMITH , were indicted for a robbery on Emma Underwood, and stealing from her person 1 purse, value 1s.; 4 half-crowns 7s.; I sixpence, and 1 farthing; the property of Daniel Underwood, Samuel. Smith having been before convicted.
MR. WILDE conducted the Prosecution.
EMMA UNDERWOOD . I am the wife of Daniel Underwood, of 50, Saffron-hill. On 17th May, about half-past twelve o'clock, I went into a public-housein Whitechapel, and asked my way to Holborn—I called for three pennyworthof brandy and a little water—the prisoners and another female werethere—Samuel Smith said, "We are going that "way," and if I had noobjection to treat them to a drop of gin, they would show me—I said I hadnot the slightest objection, ordered balf-a-pint of gin, and paid for it—I tookmy purse from my breast, and hung it on my finger—the gin was drunk, and I said I must go—Smith said, "You have got some money, and may as wellstand some more gin"—I gave them ten pennyworth more gin, two pennyworthof biscuits, and two pennyworth of wilks—I did not taste the gin—Isaid it was getting late, and I must go—they all five followed close behindme—just as we got to Finsbury-square Jones wished the others good night, but when we got to the other end of the squara he came up in front of us, caught me in my mouth, and threw me flat on my back—Douglas held meby one arm—Jones knelt on my chest, and took the money—the prisonerswere all there when I fell—I called out, "Murder"—they ran away—Ibecame insensible from the blow—the policeman came—I was rising fromthe ground, pointed out Douglas, and said, "That is one of them"—we
went to the station—I described the other three as well as I could, and theywere afterwards taken—I am sure of Douglas and Samuel Smith, and. Jonesis of the same height, and dressed the same—I should have known the otherwoman if she had been taken—I have been in the doctor's hands ever sincs—I was in the public-house three-quarters of an hour—Elizabeth Smith isa dressed different, but her appearance is the same.
Smith. Q. You did not wish to book the charge at the station aging? A. I said you were an old man, and had neither knocked me downnor robbed me—I was not kicking up a row with two females in whitechapel—I am a stranger there.
WILLIAM FISHER (policeman, G 127) On 18th May, between two and threeo'clock in the morning, I was on duty, heard cries of "Murder" and "Police, ran to Finsbury-square, and saw Mrs. Underwood on the ground—I assistedher up—she told me she had lost her purse and 17s., and pointed out Dex-. glas, who was running away—I ran, and brought him back—I did not losesight of him—we went to Whitechapel—she described the persons—I tookthe three other prisoners in Commercial-street, at eight o'clock in the morning—the prosecutrix recognised them—Jones said he could bring people to provehe was in bed—Mrs. Underwood bled profusely from the nose and mouth—wetook her to a surgeon.
Douglas. Q. Did not an officer want her to say I knocked her down A. No—you escaped from me, and ran about twenty yards.
JOHN BULLING (policeman, H 222.) On Thursday morning, 18th May, about a quarter-past four o'clock, I was on duty near Spitalfield's Churchand saw both the Smiths and Jones coming in a direction from where theylived—I took the Smiths, and afterwards saw Mrs. Underwood bleeding profuselyfrom the mouth—Samuel Smith had a stick in his hand, and she said "That is the man; he has the same stick now"—Elizabeth Smith said shehad been at home all night.
THOMAS FAIRHEAD . I keep the Horse and Leaping Bar, Whitechpel, On Thursday morning, 18th May, I saw Jones and Samuel Smith with Mrs. Underwood—I served her with some gin—she bad a purse in her hand, andpaid me—she went with Samuel Smith from the front of the bar to the front:'window; they seemed to be holding private conversation—Smith afterwardstook her by the arm, and led her out of the house—Jones followed.
Samuel Smith. Q. How much gin did you serve her with? A. Sixpenny-worth—she had been served with some before, but not by me—I did not seeyou in the house after she left.
ROBERT COLE (police-sergeant, G 4.) Samuel Smith and Jones statedbefore the Magistrate that they were with Mrs. Underwood in the public-house, and accompanied her to Houndsditch, and no further—about threeo'clock that morning 1 was in Wilson-street, near Finsbury-square, and saw Douglas, Jones, and Samuel Smith, and three women pass me—I heard ascream, turned back, and Samuel Smith and Jones passed me on the left-handside, and two females on the right-hand side—I went on, and found Douglas in custody.
Douglas. Q. Can you swear to me? A. Yes—I saw you leave thecompany, go to a watering-place, and join them again.
JOHN BUBBFRS MATHER . I am surgeon to the police, and live in Bunhillrow. On 18th May, about five o'clock in the morning, Mrs. Underwoodwas brought to me—the upper part of her dress was gorged with blood, shewas bleeding from the mouth, and had serious contusions about the head andface—the mouth was very much injured inside, and the teeth loosened—she
appeared to have had a kick on the ear, which fixed the jaw for several days—she was under my care some time.
Douglas's Defence. The prisoners are all strangers to me; I was not nearthe house; I had been to Sadler's Wells Theatre, and met Mrs. Underwoodmaking noise and quarrelling with three men and women; they were verymuch in liquor; Elizabeth Smith was not with them; I heard Mrs. Underwoodscream, raised her up, and had her in my arms when the policemancame; she said at the station I was merely passing, but the policeman triedall he could to make her swear to me.
Samuel Smith's Defence. I went with Mrs. Underwood from the public-houseto Aldgate Church, and left her there; Elizabeth Smith was not there.
John's Defence. I went with Mrs. Underwood from the public-house to Houndsditch, and wished her good night there.
Elizabeth Smith's Defence. I was at home at the time.
DOUGLAS— GUILTY . Aged 22.—SAMUEL SMITH— GUILTY . Aged 61.—JONES— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Fourteen Years.—ELIZABETH SMITH— NOT GUILTY .
MR. HUDDLESTON conducted the Prosecution.
HENRY LYONS . I live in Leman-street, Goodman's-fields. Early in April I was introduced by my brother to the prisoner, at the London Coffee-house—he said he had a large estate in India, and another in Cornwall, andwas going to Plymouth to receive a legacy—in consequence of what he toldme I allowed him to live at my house, and provided him with clothes, linen, a gold watch and chain—one morning be went away, intending to take possessionof his estate—I went with him to the railway station—when Ireturned I missed from a drawer, which was broken open, a chali dress, abracelet, and some satin.
Prisoner. Q. Did you not promise me a dress to send to New York?A. No—I did make up a parcel for you to take, but it was intended youshould purchase the goods—you bought other goods worth 10l.—you saidyou were going to Plymouth, instead of which you went to Liverpool.
Prisoner. Q. Did you go to the drawers on the day I left for some pass-overcakes? A. No; I do not keep them there—I found the drawer openthe same evening—there was a piece out, as if it had been taken out with aknife.
THOMAS KELLY (policeman, H 2.) I received information, went to Liverpool, and found the prisoner in custody; he had been stopped by the telegraph—I told him he was charged with breaking open a drawer and stealingthe things—he said, "I do not deny having the dress, but I did not have thebracelet and satin"—he said Mr. Lyons gave him the dress—I brought himto Mr. Lyons, who had gone down with me, and he denied it.
(The prisoner stated that he came over from New York, hearing that he wasentitled to an estate in England; that he got acquainted with Mr. Lyons'scousin on the voyage, who introduced him to Mr. Lyons; but finding he was
misinformed about the estate, and hearing of a ship for New York, at lowpool, he went there, and left a 500-dollar scrip with Mr. Lyons as security, who gave him the chali dress for his wife.)
GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined Twelve Months.
(There was another indictment against the prisoner.)
1560. THOMAS WADE , stealing 9 handkerchiefs, and 1 scarf, value £3 8s.; also, 5 handkerchiefs, 8 yards of merino, and 8 handkerchiefs, value 3l. 15s.; the goods of Joseph James Welch and others, his masters toboth which he pleaded
GUILTY , and received a good character. Aged 27.— Confined Twelve Months.
JOHN RANCE . I live at Chelsea—I sell vegetables. On June 10th, at sixo'clock, I left my cart and horse, with some peas, andan empty sack and sieve, opposite Page's stand in Covent-garden, and gave his man 3d. to mind them—I went back in a quarter of an hour, and they were gone—thenose-bag was pulled off the mare, and left there—I found them next morning, about nine o'clock, at a livery stable in Clerkenwell, and at Pickett's housethree sacks of peas.
ALEXANDER PICKETT . I live at Sutton's-gardens—between six and serveno'clock on Saturday evening, the prisoner brought a horse and cart, and theree: sacks of peas to me—he said he had borrowed the horse and cart of a gentlemanin Gray's Inn-lane, and asked me to lend him a barrow to take thepeas—I promised him one—he drove off—he came for the peas in the samehorse and cart at four o'clock on Sunday morning—I cannot swear to it now—I said "I have given them in charge of the policeman, as you did not comefor them"—he said, "Can't I have them"—I said, "Not unless you go tothe policeman"—he asked me to go to the station with him—I went, and hewas kept—I had not given up the peas, but the policeman had locked themup in my place.
RICHARD MARTIN (policeman, N 175.) On Sunday morning, at seveno'clock, the prisoner and Pickett came to the station—he said he had boughtthe peas at 5s. a sack, in Covent-garden the evening before—I had receiveddirections, and took him—he said nothing about the horse and cart.
THOMAS PENTECOST (policeman.) I found the mare and a cart, with Mr. Rance's name and address on it, on Saturday night, in Catherine-street, Goswell-street, a mile from Pickett's—I took it to a livery-stable in St. John-street—there were three sacks, a sieve, and a whip in it—Mr. Rance ownedthem.
Prisoner's Defence. I was minding the cart in Covent-garden, and theman lent it to me instead of payment to take the peas which I had justbought—I took them back to him.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Twelve Months.
Drury-lane. On 8th June, about half-past five in the evening, I waslying on the bed in my room, and heard a man's foot on the stairs—the dooropened, and I heard a chain lifted, which was safe on my drawers five minutesbefore, with a fourpenny-piece attached to it—the door closed again—I gotup, went down, and made inquiries—Saunders was brought in—I told himhe had taken the chain—he denied it, and asked if Ishould he satisfied if I searched him—I said "No," as he had been out of the house—a policemanwas sent for—Underwood was brought in in three or four minutes.
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. What was the value of the chain.A. 1s.
CHARLES RUCKMAN . On 8th June, about a quarter-past five o'clock, Iwas the Rose and Crown—Saunders came in, and afterwards went to thestaircase—he was away two or three minutes, came down again, and askedme to stand a pint of half-and-half—I said I had no halfpence—he went out, and came round to the front door back to me, and asked if I was going hisway—I said "No"—he left, and said he should be back in thecourse of the evening—Miss Anderson came down and complained, and I and Baker wentafter Saunders in different ways—I overtook the prisoners walkingarm-in-arm, and told Saunders the governor wanted to speak to him—he said, "What doeshe want"—I said, "I do not know, you must come"—he said he would callas he came back—I said, "You must come now"—Baker tookhim—I took Underwood, who asked me to let him go into a watering place:—I watchedhim—he came out, and said, "If this is what you want, here it is," takingthis chain out of his pocket—he said he did not understand the business, andgave it me to take care of for him—I asked what he had done with the four-penny-piece—he said Saunders took it off.
Cross-examined. Q. Did not he say, "He gave me the chain, and told mehe got it from the theatre?" A. That was after Saunders was in charge—they were a considerable distance from the house.
CHARLES CAWDERY . I manage Miss Anderson's business—on 8th June, about five o'clock, I saw Saunders at the corner of the bar—he had beenthere four or five times before, and had once sung on the stage there—hewent up stairs, came down again in two or three minutes, and went out—Miss Anderson came down and made inquiries—shortly afterwards the prisonerswere brought back, and taken to the station—going along I saw afourpenny-piece picked up at Saunders' feet.
GEORGE GAFF (policeman, F 41.) Saunders was given in my charge at the Rose and Crown—Underwood was brought to the station by Robinson, andsaid in Saunders' presence, that he gave him the chain to hold till he came outof the public-house—I found two skeleton keys under a box at Underwood'slodging.
Cross-examined. Q. Where? A. At 36, Portman-street, on the firstfloor—he did not say he lived on the first floor—it is a large house.
UNDERWOOD received a good character.
NOT GUILTY .
SAUNDERS— GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined Twelve Months.
RICHARD MARTIN (policeman, N 175) On 10th June, about half-passtwelve o'clock in the day, I was in High-street, Islington, and was called bya female, who charged the prisoner with stealing three umbrellas, and gavehim in charge—he swore he would not go to the station, and struck me onthe month and chest—he got away and ran down George-yard—I did notthink, it prudent to follow, but sent for assistance—two other men came, andwe all three went and found him at his door, with a poker—I rushed at him—he hit me a sharp blow with it—my hat saved me—he slightly brake theskin of my head—he struck me once or twice again—I closed with him—other constables came, and after a desperate struggle we got him out, andwere then compelled to send to the station for the night duty men—he wasdrunk.
MATTHEW SHOESMITH (policeman, N 122.) I went to Martin's assistanceinto George-yard, and saw the prisoner at his door, with a poker—hestruck Martin with if, and went in—we followed him—I tried to rescue Martin from his grasp—he kicked me violently—another constable came—we got him up, and he kicked me again, knocked me down, and kickedroe under the right eye—other policemen came, and we got him to thestation.
THOMAS GOODERHAN (policeman, N, 433.) I saw the prisoner at his door, with a poker—he struck Martin—I went in and received several severe kicksfrom the prisoner in different parts of my body, and have felt it ever since.
Prisoner's Defence. I said I knew nothing about the umbrellas, and randown a court; I was drunk, and resisted; they cut two wounds in my legand one in my shin; the doctor attended me twice; they tore my clothes somuch that they were obliged to give me these I have on. (The prisoner hereshowed his leg, which teas dreadfully wounded, and he had two wounds on hishead.)
GUILTY . Aged 29.— Confined Four Months.
JOHN SAMUEL SELF (policeman, H 203.) On 3rd June, about twelveo'clock at night, I was endeavouring to clear the stalls in Whitechapel—theprisoner came up, and without saying anything, took me by the collar, turnedme round, and wanted me to take a woman in charge, who he was holding, and said she had robbed him of half-a-crown at a brothel—I would not takethe charge, he said, "I will be b----if you go till you do"—I would not—he put two fingers in my stock, kicked mo on the ankle, knocked me down, and nearly strangled me—I had two dreadful kicks in the side, and struckhim with my truncheon throe times—there were other people about, but Ibelieve it was the prisoner that kicked me—two constables and a civiliancame and rescued me—I have not been on duty since—he knocked me downthree times—with four or five other constables we got him to the station.
crowd, and saw the prisoner on the top of a policeman, holding him bythe throat—they were on the ground struggling—the people kept saying, "Kick the b----'s guts out"—I helped to take him to the station—hewas drunk.
JAMES GAIR (policeman, H 135.) I saw Self struggling with the prisoner, who had two fingers in his stock, pinching his throat—I got hold of him, andtold him to let him go—he said be—would see him d----first, and hit himonce or twice—Self fell down exhausted—I caught the prisoner, and kept himfrom falling on him—policeman 213 came up, hit the prisoner, and extricated Ms hand from Self's throat—Self got up in a minute and a half or twominutes—the prisoner struggled very hard with me and fell again—we gothim to the station.
JAMES CHAPMAN (policeman, H 218.) I saw Self on his back, and the prisoneron the top of him, holding him by the throat—I assisted him up—theprisoner kicked him again twice very hard—he fell down again—the prisonergot him by the throat again—it was as much as I could do to break his hold—he said he would kick my b----guts out—he struck me on the left eyeand kicked me twice—we sprang our rattles, strapped his legs, got assistance, and took him to the station.
Prisoner's Defence. I was drunk.
The Prisoner called
JAMES CROWLEY . I saw the prisoner give the woman in charge—Selfwould not take her—I went towards Whitechapel Church, came back, andsaw the prisoner sitting at a public-house door, bleeding from the head—hegot up and rushed at a policeman, who knocked him down, at a part wherethere was no gas-light policeman 124 said, "We have got him; now servehim oat, smash his horns in"—policeman 135 said there was no occasion—124 said, "d----him, smash his horns"—Chapman looked at me, and thensaid there was no occasion for it—I followed them to the station.
GUILTY . * Aged 26.— Confined Four Months.
OLD COURT.—Tuesday, June 20th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. RECORDER; and Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE.
Before Mr. Recorder and the Fourth Jury.
1567. WILLIAM PEACOCK , stealing 1 bag, value 1d.; 30 sovereigns, and 10 half-sovereigns; the property of William Shippey and another, his masters.—2nd COUNT, stating it to be the property of William Shippey.
MR. PARRY conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM SHIPFEY . I am a licensed horse-slaughterer, and deal in horses The priboner was in my service one night—I engaged him last Thursday fiveweeks, and agreed to give him 1l. a week, and he drew 6s. in advance—hepositively swore before me on his knees that he would never rob me of afarthing—on Friday we went to Hertford fair—I was taken ill, and could notwalk about the fair—I staid at the inn, and gave the prisoner 40l. in gold, ina tag, and told him to go about and see if he could buy some sound horsesfor me, not to slaughter, but to sell again—he returned in about an hour, saidhe could not buy any there, and the best way would be to get up to Smith-field
—we came up by the train, and Mr. Lovegrove with us—at Shoreditchthe prisoner left me, and I was obliged to go home, I was so bad—I neversaw him again till I saw him, at one o'clock, on Saturday morning at the Brecknock Arms, Camden-town—he then said he had bought two horses for 9l.—there were two horses there—he said he had bought two more of Mr. Urllingat 25l., and he had left them at Mr. Urling's, because he knew he would takecare of them—he gave me the difference, 5l., and kept a sovereign—he saidhe had spent one of the sovereigns, and he would keep the rest of thechange—I did not see him again for three weeks—that was at Smithfield—Inever had the 9l. horses; he took them away, and I found he had not boughtthe others of Urling at all.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Have you known him sometime? A. Yes—I have been a horse-slaughterer all my life—I had beenassociated with the prisoner before in dealing, and he robbed me of 30l.—hewas never in partnership with me—he never had any money but what wasmine—when I took him again he went down on his knees and promised toserve me faithfully—a person of the name of Thomas Fishpool was my partner—I think we dissolved partnership last Wednesday night—he was mypartner when the prisoner stole the money of me, I swear that positively—we were partners in everything—I consider what was his money was mine, and what was mine was his.
MR. PARRY. Q. Do I distinctly understand you, that this money belongedto you and Fishpool? A. Yes—we were partners together—we dissohedlast Wednesday—he is to take all the debts, and I have to keep whatever I have pot—Bridges has two carts of mine, which he got under false pretences—it was agreed that we should keep them.
NOT GUILTY .
MR. PARNELL conducted the Prosecution.
JOSEPH GOLDSMID . I am a Birmingham and Sheffield warehouseman is Houndsditch. From the beginning of Jan. to May the prisoner was in myservice as town traveller—he had to take samples out, and receive orders—itwas his duty also to take out the goods for which he had received the orders, with the exception of fenders and flat-irons—I paid him 10s. a week, and fiveper cent, on all goods sold, whether they were paid for or not—he had toreceive money from customers, and to account to me for it the same evening, except Saturdays and holidays—he has not accounted to me for 2l. 3s. received, on 3rd May, from Mr. Pige; or 1l. 16s. on 4th March, or 2l. on 3rd May, from Mr. Deuenham—I did not see him after 3rd May.
Cross-examincd by MR. HOUBY. Q. How long has he been in your service?A. Upwards of three years—I have not got a memorandum of hisengagement—I nude no entry of it in my books—I paid him every week—Ido not enter when I engage my servants, or when they go away—I swear hewas in my service upwards of three years—I have two female servants andone male beside him—only one is employed in the warehouse—I had nothingto do with the prisoner before I engaged him—he never came to me forgoods, I am positive—this is the prisoner's order-book—(produced)—I havea separate book tor myself a waste-book—this is the book in which heaccounted to me—I made the entries in his presence—I never enteredanything except in his presence I always enter them every Saturdaynight—I take it down from him—he does not sign it—Mr. Debenham has
been a customer of mine above two years—I only knew him through the prisoner—I did not know him myself till after the prisoner had absconded—I did know Mr. Pipe, or his foreman—I paid the prisoner 10s. on the Saturdaynight before he left, and had done so for two years—there are no accountsbetween us at this moment—I swear there are no accounts for his dealings—he has never had goods from me on his own account—there was no agreementthat he should deal with me and no one else—he was my town traveller, andwent about getting what orders he could—he ought not to leave goods on saleor return, but I have since ascertained that he has done so—I have no entryof any payments to him—the police were after him for three weeks—Ireceived a letter from him, in reply to one that was sent to him from a Mr. Russell, stating that he wished to see him—it was merely to take him intocustody—this is the answer, (producing it,) and it was posted at Norton-folgate, close to Mr. Russell's—I had been to the Mansion-hoase a fortnightbefore that—the prisoner's brother called on me, and offered me 20l. to compromisethe matter—the officer was in my house at the time—the brotherdid not come to know what accounts were owing, nor did I say 60l. or 70l.—the prisoner has robbed me of upwards of 70l.—I did not ask the brother for 70l.—the brother told me that the prisoner acknowledged to having embezzled 35l.—if the brother had offered me 70l. I should have refused it—I gave the prisonerinto custody on the Saturday night—I bad no reason to believe that hewould be at the Mansion-house to meet me on the Monday morning—I told Mr. Debenham that I wanted him to give him into custody.
MR. PARNELL. Q. He left you on 3rd May? A. Yes—I met him thatday as I was going over London-bridge, and I did not see him after—I knewthat Mr. Debenham was a customer of mine by entering the accounts to himfor two years—I only allowed the prisoner to give credit to certain persons, and there is only 12s. 6d. that has not been paid for upwards of two years.
THOMAS DEBENHAM . I live at Queen's-row, Pimlico. I am a pawn-broker—I know the prisoner, and have dealt with him—I did not know thathe was the servant of Mr. Goldsmid. On 3rd May I paid the prisoner 2l. on account—there was a running account between us for cutlery, and I gavehim money when he asked for it—I paid it him on his own account—I neverknew any one else in it—I paid him the money on account of the goods I hadreceived—I never knew Mr. Goldsmid—the bills were always made out inthe name of Jarvis—I never had any of the prosecutor's bills—I have Known the prisoner two or three years—(looking at an invoice of the prosecutor's)I never had any bills of this sort—they were something similar to thisbut the name was Jarvis instead of Goldsmid—I paid him 1l. 16s. on 4th March for a pair of candlesticks, which I have since shown to Mr. Goldsmid.
Cross-examined. Q. He has brought you hardware on sale or return?A. Yes, very commonly; if I sold it I paid him the amount, and if not hetook it away again—I met him, and told him Mr. Goldsmid talked of givinghim into custody—I had then received a letter from Mr. Goldsmid when theprisoner had absconded—the prisoner answered, "You are not to pay anymoney to Mr. Goldsmid, "but to me; for your dealings are with me and Ihave to settle with Mr. Goidsmid," and he dared me to give him into custody I had bought cruet frames and a variety of things of him.
GEORGE SAVAGE . I am a salesman to Mr. Pige, 115, Church-street, Shoreditch—I have known the prisoner many years—he represented himselfas being a hawker travelling for Mr. Goldsmid—in Nov. or Dec. last I had
some flat-irons and tea-trays of him, amounting to 2l. 3s.—I paid him somethingon account a week afterwards, and-have now paid him the whole—whenhe delivered them there was a person of the name of Chappel with him—hebrought them in a truck.
Cross-examined. Q. You have dealt with him many years? A. Yeswith himself—I understood him that he was traveller or hawker, I do notrecollect which, for Mr. Goldsmid—we were talking about business at thetime—I do not recollect that he said he was working for Mr. Goldsmid-allthe transactions I had with him were in his own name—I have had goodsrepeatedly from him and on credit—I have known the prisoner many yearshe always bore an honest character.
MR. PARNELL. Q. Did he leave an invoice with you? A. I am notcertain, if he did I have mislaid it—I know Mr. Goldsmid by sight—I haveseen him with Jam's in a chaise, at our shop—I do not recollect his being asour shop more than once.
JOHN CHAPPELL . I am porter to Mr. Goldsmid—I went with the prisonerand the truck to Mr. Piges shop in Nov. or Dec. last, with the flat-irons from Mr. Goldsmid—I had nothing else to deliver—I was not employed by the prisoner, but by Mr. Goldsmid.
MR. GOLDSMID re-examined. Invoices were always sent with the goods, but he has destroyed them and substituted others, or scratched out my nameand put his own.
(The prisoner received an excellent character.)
GUILTY . Aged 38.— Confined Three Months.
(There were three other indictments against the prisoner.)
GEORGE ALEXANDER . I am a dairy-man. The prisoner was in my serviceeight days, and left to go to the hospital—she told me, on the Monday morning, that she had got a new customer, Mrs. Carter, of the Victoria coffee-house, Bridge-row, who would take three quarts of milk a-day, and pay once a-week—she continued to serve her for the week, every night stating that she had notbeen paid—I had only had the business from 7th to 14th May—the prisonerwas in the employment of Mr. Bird, my predecessor—I had a good characterwith her.
SOPHIA CARTER . I live at 13, Bridge-row, Pimlico. I did not receiveany milk from the prisoner—there are no other Mrs. Carters in Pimlico, tomy knowledge—I keep a coffee-shop—I do not know another Mrs. Carter whokeeps a coffee-shop—I did not deal with Mr. Alexander, and never saw himtill this transaction.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Did she never state that peoplecomplained of the milk being bad, and that she was obliged to give more inconsequence? A. No; she accounted to me daily as though she had deliveredthe quantity I gave her—this is the book (produced) in which I wroteit down every evening—she told me that a certain quantity of milk bad beendelivered to Mrs. Carter every day, and when I sent the bill in I found shehad not received at—after she left another person was employed in herplace, but nut while. she was with me—I was told that she never did goto the hospital—in taking her milk out she would have to pass her mother'sdour.
MR. HORRY called
MARY MURPHY . I am the prisoner's mother—she was in Mr. Bird'ssoviet' eighteen months, and when he left the business he recommended her to Mr. Alexander—she had been very ill and went to the hospital, four weeksyesterday—she went about her work during the week she was with Mr. Alexander until the Monday morning—she had no assistance. (The prisonerreceived a good character.)
GUILTY.—Strongly recommended to mercy.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. I believe you kept no account of themilk you sent out? No—I cannot tell how many chance customers shehad to supply—she had about forty-five regular ones, most of whom shesupplied twice a day—she knew her customers very well—the account shegave me of a night tallied near about with the quantity she took out—aftershe came out of the hospital she told me she had received this money, and if I would take her again she would work it out.
ANN WYNN . On 10th May I paid the prisoner 2s. 3d.—I had said toher in the first part of that week, "I have not seen your new master yet;, will you ask him how I am to pay him"—she did so, and said that 1 hadbetter pay daily—the 2s. 3d. was for several days' milk, and after that I paidher every day—I did not keep memorandums of the sums I paid her, but itwas 10d. one day, 1s. another, and 1s. 3d. another—she gave no receipt.
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined-Fourteen Days .
MR. HORRY conducted the Prosecution.
CHARLES COWDERY . I manage the business of the Rose and Crown public house, in Clare-court, Drury-lane. On the night of 8th June, aboutten o'clock, I saw the prisoners together in our concert room—I had seenthem before; I followed them in and watched them about an hour, and then sat down by the side of Smith—Beacon said that Smith had taken a handkerchiefout of my pocket and passed it to Martin, who threw it under thetable—I went for a policeman, and gave Smith in custody—Martin wentaway—this is my handkerchief (produced)—I had had it in my hand not twominutes before—I did not drop it.
Smith. I had paid for nine glasses of gin-and-water, some porter andstout, and spent 6s. 6d. there; I was very drunk, and if I did it it was quiteunknown to me.
Witness. He was not at all intoxicated.
Cross-examined by MR. PLATT. Q. Did you see the prisoners when theyfirst came in? A. Yes; with two others—they took four tickets to go intogether—the admission to the room is free, but they take a refreshmentticket tor 3d., for which they have the full value in drink—there is musicgoing on there—the handkerchief was in my left hand coat-pocket—I satdown on the end of the seat next to Smith, to listen to a song—my pocketwas close to his left hand—Martin was on the opposite side of the table, which is very narrow, so that any one could reach over it—I had not been on
the seat two minutes when my pocket was picked—I have never been in anytrouble myself.
WILLIAM BEACON . I live in Portsmouth-street, Lincoln's-inn, and am asaddle-tree maker. About half-past eleven o'clock on the night of 8th June I was in the Rose and Crown concert-room, and saw the prisoners therefrom about ten o'clock—there were four in company, and were sitting oppositeone another at a table about eighteen inches wide—I saw Cowdery comein and sit down by the side of Smith, who put his hand into his pockety; andtook out a handkerchief—I saw the handkerchief in his hand—I tried tocatch hold of him—he passed it to Martin, and then I tried to lay hold of Martin, and he threw it under the table—I told Cowdery what had happened, picked up the handkerchief, and afterwards gave it to the policeman—whenthe policeman had Smith in custody, Martin went away—the other two saidthey would smash anybody's face who interfered—I knew them by sight, butnever saw them there before.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you distinctly see Smith put his hand into Cowderj's pocket? A. Yes; I was close by him—Martin was opposite him, about eighteen inches off—Smith's hat was on the seat, and when Cowderysat down, Smith removed the hat, and put his hand into his pocket, and passedthe handkerchief under the table—I got hold of it and Martin too—I stoopeddown and tried to get it, but could not, for Martin had hold of it—I was onthe same side as Smith—Martin had the handkerchief in his hand when I laidhold of his arm—he then threw it on the ground.
RICHARD WEBB . I live at 8, Dean-street. I—was at the Rose and Crown Concert-room, and saw the prisoners there in company with two more—Isaw Smith take the handkerchief from Cowdery's left-hand pocket, and passit under the table—Martin was sitting opposite—Beacon afterwards pickedup the handkerchief.
JOHN BACHELOR (policeman, F 37.) I was called to the Rose and Crown—Beacon there gave me this handkerchief, and Smith was given into custody—he said he was innocent, and worked hard for his living—he was not at allintoxicated—I saw Martin on the way to the station, but did not then knowhe was wanted.
Cross-examined. Q. Nobody bad accused Martin of anything? A. Notat that time—he followed behind us—I stayed in the house about two minutesand a half, another constable helped me take Smith—the landlord and waiterwent to the station with us.
HENRY ATTWOOD (policeman, F 152.) About half-past three o'clock, onthe morning of 9th June, I went to Short's-gardens, and found Martin there—I told him I wanted him on supicion of stealing a handkerchief at the Roseand Croun—he said he knew nothing of it.
Cross-examined. Q. You knew where he lived and found him in bed?A. Yes.
JAMES CROSS (policeman, E 54.) I was present at Smith's conviction, at Clerkenwcll, on 14th March, in the name of Sullivan—I produce the certificate—(read—Convicted March, 1848, and confined two months)—he is thesame person.
SMITH— GUILTY . Aged 22.
MARTIN— GUILTY . Aged 36.
Transported for Ten Years.
NEW COURT.—Tuesday, June 21st, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. GIBBS and Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.
Before Mr. Commnon Serjeant and the Sixth Jury.
NOT GUILTY .
GUILTY . Aged 22.— To enter into his own recognizances to appear to receive Judgment when called upon .
GUILTY . Aged 19.— To enter into his own recognizances to appear to receive Judgment when called upon .
(MR. BODKIN offered no evidence.)
NOT GUILTY .
MR. PLATT conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN HAYNES (policeman, G 155.) On Sunday morning, 4th June, agentleman, with a great lump by the side of his eye, came to me, at thecorner of Golden-lane, and pave Bryant into my custody—he said, with anoath, he would not go to the station—I told him he had better come quietly, itwould be the best for him—he resisted, and went down—I was on him—someone gave me a blow—I got up, and Vigo and Connor began boating, kicking, and dragging me up and down the court—I struck Bryant with my staff, andfollowed him out of Hartshorn-court into Golden-lane—the other two fol-lowedme—some one gave me another blow—two other officers came up, andtook Bryant and Vigo—Bryant was very violent—when we got him to thestation he used very bad language—Sergeant White persuaded him to goquietly—he would not; he got the officer by the leg, and said he would notgo—Connor was taken about six o'clock that evening—I identified him—I Co not know the gentleman who gave charge of Bryant—I have not been onduty since—I am still ill; my eye is very weak now—I could not see till the Wednesday morning afterwards—I am sure the prisoners are the persons—they all struck me.
Cross-examined by MR. JENKINS. Q. Do you consider it your duty totaken person on a charge of assault without seeing that assault committed?A. yes, when they show marks of violence—I knew Connor well—he cameup whilst I was on the ground with Bryant—I had seen Connor one day inthat week—I have seen him numbers of times—he lives in Richard's-place, Old-street.
EDWARD WHITE (police-sergeant, G 9.) On Sunday, 4th June, I was in Golden-lane—I found Haynes in a most exhausted state, and his eye verymuch injured—there were about a hundred persons there—I took Bryant—he said he would not go—in Whitecross-street he made a dead stop, and saidhe would not go further—I persuaded him to go to the station—I took Connor at six o'clock, at the top of Golden-lane.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you see Connor amongst the crowd? A. No; I took him from what others told me.
and Bryant assaulting a young man, who was holding up his hands for protection—he asked me to assist him—Waynes came up, and the young mengave charge of Bryant—Ifaynes said, "Go quietly, nothing shall happen toyou"—Bryant made an oath that he would not—he and Haynes had a scuffleand went down—Haynes got up, and Vigo threw him on his back—Bryantput his thumb in his eye, and 1 saw his eye quite out upon his check—Hayneshad the presence of mind to put his hand up, and put his eye back again—Connor was kicking and beating him—there were a hundred persons round—there were cries of "Knife him! knife him! remember Mitchell!"
Cross-examined. Q. Did you see Connor there? A. Yes; I have seenhim before—I do not know where he lives—he struck Haynes when he wason the ground, and kicked him on his left side—I was standing over him—his eye was nearly taken out with the thumb.
JOHN BUBBERS MATHER . I am a surgeon—I saw Haynes—his eye wasdreadfully inflamed, and in a contused state—no doubt it had received severalblows in the ball, which has been in a sad state ever since—he was very ill, and unable to attend his duty.
Vigo. Q. You said he had no marks on his body? A. There were noexternal marks, but he complained of being very ill-used.
Bryant's Defence. I saw a person at the top of Whitecross-street; someone struck him on the hat; he turned, and said it was me; I took no notice, but was going home; at Golden-lane I was taken; I did not intend to gotill they told me what for; I was intoxicated; I received a blow or two, andwas then rather troublesome; they cut a wound in my head, and used mevery bad.
Vigo's Defence. I was in Golden-lane; Brown came and said, "I think he is one, takehim."
BRYANT— GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined One Year . VIGO— GUILTY . Aged 21. CONNOR— GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Nine Months.
EMILY STEDDY . I am a servant out of a situation, and live in Cook's-grounds, Chelsea. On 28th May, I was on board the Childe Harold, Chelseasteam-boat; about half a mile from Chiswick I missed my purse whichhad been in my pocket by the side of my dress—it contained a half-sovereign, a half-crown, two shillings, and sixpence, one fourpenny piece, three halfpence, and one farthing—both prisoners were on board—Smith was nearestto me—I accused him of having robbed me, in consequence of what awoman told me—he asked me if I accused him—I said, "I did, and askedhim to take out his money"—he took out a half-sovereign, four half-crowns, and six shillings, and said he showed all he had—I had amongst ray moneya halfpenny with a hole in it which I could swear to—this (produced) is it—when 1 accused him he went round the boat—I followed him—he wentand stood by the side of Flood, who was sitting down—Whitelock, one of thewitnesses, said, in the prisoner's presence, that he saw Smith pass money to Flood—Smith said he had not—Flood said he had not taken his hand out ofhis pocket—his hand was in his pocket then—two gentlemen kept theprisoners on board—the police came, and I heard money rattle in Flood'spocket—I thought he had given something to a little boy, as I saw the boy's hand near Flood—the boy said he had not, but he had thrown it into thewater—my money was in a purse—it has not been found.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Were there many people on board?A. The boat was not crowded—the woman who spoke to me is not here—Itook out my purse on the pier before I went on board, but did not take anythingout of it, as a friend paid for me—I am sure I put it into my pocketagain.
Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. Was there a boy kneeling on oneside of Flood? A. Yes—there were people sitting on the bench.
EDWARD HUBBARD . I was on board the boat, on 28th. May. Steddysaid she had been robbed—I was leaning on the rail, the outside rail nextto the water—Smith was leaning his arm over—I heard something drop intothe water from there—I do not know what it was.
THOMAS SAMUEL . I was on board the boat. I recollect Steddy charging Smith with the robbery—I went up; Smith had some money in his handwhich he was showing to Steddy, and another female—they were not satisfied—they said there was a marked sixpence which they knew—Isaid, "I should recommend you to say no more to the man till you get to Chelsea, and then give him in charge, and have him searched"—Smith went round theboat, I followed him, and kept my eye on him—he sat down on the top ofthe cabin stairs—I said, "These ladies charge you with robbing them, Ishall not let you leave the boat, I shall keep my eye on you"—he jumpedup, and went near to Flood—the parties round Said he had passed somethinginto Flood's pocket—Flood was sitting on the end of the seat—directly thepoliceman came on board, the people said Flood threw something over theside of the boat.
FRANCIS WHITELOCK . I was on board, and heard the females complainingthat they had been robbed of a purse and money. I watched Smith—hewent round the funnel, and stood by Flood's side, put bis hand towards Flood's pocket, and put something in—I went up, and said, "Now you areboth in this affair, I will have you given into custody"—I watched themuntil we came to the pier, and sent for a policeman—when he came I turnedmy eyes from Flood for a moment, and when I turned to him again he wasin the act of dropping something over board.
Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. You were watching Smith? A. Yes—there were a good many persons on board—I only followed Smith withif my eyes—I was in the middle of the boat, by the funnel—he went round, and came up on the other side of the vessel—when he came up to Flood hewas not above a yard and a half, or two yards from me, opposite me—hewent on Flood's right side—no one was between me and Flood—there were noseats there—I bad not noticed him particularly before Smitb came to him—Icould not see what was dropped—it was getting dusk—before the dropping Flood asked me to search him—I did not do so—he took out his money—he said there was 18s. 10d. all in silver.
JOSEPH HANSON (policeman, V 133.) I went to the vessel, and saw Flood draw his hand from his trowsers pocket in a hurried manner, andturn it over the railing of the vessel—it was getting dusk—he gave up asovereign, half-a-crown and 15s.—I searched Smith, and found on him twotalf-sovereigns, four half-crowns, six shillings, four sixpences, one fourpenny-Piece, and 4 3/4 d. in copper—this is one of the halfpence.
NOT GUILTY .
ANN WRIGHT . I am single, and live in Cooke's-ground, Chelsea. I wason board the Childe Harold, on 28th May—I had a purse in my pocket. containingone shilling, four sixpences, one fourpenny piece, and some half-pence—I missed my purse about half a mile from Chiswick—Smith brushedagainst me on tlie side where my purse was—I said I had been robbed, and Smith then left, and wa'ked round the boat—persons said in his presencethey had seen him put his hand into a gentleman's pocket—I said to him," If you would put your hand into one person's pocket, you have most likelydone it to mine; I have lost my purse and money"—he said, "I hope youwill not accuse me, I am a respectable person"—I afterwards said to Flood, "I shall detain you, on suspicion of robbing me"—he offered to take out hismoney and show me—he said, "Don't say anything against me, don't aceuseme, I am a respectable person"—he asked if I should know my money—Isaid, "Yes, part of it"—he said, "What?"—I said, "An old crooked six-pence"—it was getting dark—I saw him put his hand over the side of theboat, and I heard something drop into the water.
Cross-examined by MR. METCALTE. Q. Did you hear him ask to besearched before he put his hand over the boat? A. Yes—he took somemoney out—he did not say how much there was—that was when Steddy and Whitelock, and other persons, were round.
THOMAS SAMUEL . I saw Wright accuse Smith—she said she had lost acrooked sixpence that she could swear to—I advised her not to say anythingmore to him, and said I should give him into custody when I got to Chelesea—he then left, went round the boat, and sat by the fore-cabin stairs—I wentup to him, with both the ladies—directly he saw us, he got up, andwent and stood by Flood's side—I held Smith by the collar till he got there—I thenlet him go, and watched him, and heard some one say, "He has just putsomething into this person's (Flood's) pocket"—several persons said theysaw him do it—I said to Whitelock, "Did you see him do it?"—he said, "Yes"—I said, "You take care of that man, and I will attend to the other"—at Chelsea the captain sent for a policeman—they then said Flood hadthrown something over—I am sure it was not Smith—I had my eye on him.
FRANCIS WHITELOCK . I am a tailor, of Charles-street, Middlesex Hospital. I was on the Cliilde Harold, and heard Wright charge the prisoners—Smith stood by Hood's side—I saw him put his hand into Flood's rightpocket—I immediately said they were connected, and 1 would give them incharge—Flood said he was innocent, and hoped he would not be given incharge—I watched them till we came to the pier, where I saw Flood put hisleft hand over the rail and drop something.
JOSEPH HANSON (policeman V 133.) I was sent for—the passengers said, "Here comes the policeman"—Flood took his left hand, I think from histrowsers pocket, and turned it over the railing of the boat in a very hurriedmanner—three or four persons said, "He has thrown something over—took hold of his hand—I found on him a sovereign, a half-crown, and fifteenshillings; and on Smith two half-sovereigns, four half-crowns, six shillings, four sixpences, one fourpenny-piece, and 4 3/4 d. in copper.
Cross-examined. Q. Are either of these sixpences the crooked one? A. No.
of Flood's former conviction—(read—Convicted Oct., 1847, for a robbery ona steam-boal pier—confined six months)—he is the person.
SMITH received a good character. GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Six Months . FLOOD— GUILTY . Aged 34.— Transported for Ten Years.
MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.
MERCY WHITE . I live in Union-street, Larkhall-lane, Clapham, and ama servant out of place. I had an action going on against William Watts—Iknow the prisoner—on 26th Oct. he took me to the Falcon Tavern, Fetter-lane, and said he was clerk to Mr. Govett, who was at the Judges' chambers, who had sent him to me to get 5l.—Mr. Govett was my attorney—Ipaid the prisoner the five sovereigns—he gave me this receipt—if he hadnot told me he was Mr. Govett's clerk I should not have paid him—he cameafterwards to my house, on 2nd Sept., and received 5s. of me—he said Mr. Govett had sent him for it—on 15th Jan., I paid him a sovereign and fourshillings for Mr. Govett—on 17th Jan., he had two sovereigns—they wereall for Mr. Govett. as he said, and on account of the action going on—I havepaid altogether 53l.—I do not know what has become of the action—I amjust where I was.
Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. You employed Mr. Lammin? A. Yes; I first employed Mr. Warren, he died, and Mr. Lammen becamemy attorney—he could not get on as he had not got the papers—I thenwent to Mr. Govett—I have known the prisoner three years last Jan.—Ifirst saw him at the Borough Sessions-house—I thought he was an attorneytill I saw some writings in Mr. Warren's name, and then he said, "I amnot an attorney, I am clerk to Mr. Warren"—I suppose he acted as clerk to Mr. Warren—no one recommended me to Mr. Govett; but the prisoner saidhe was his cleric, asked me to go to him, and took me there—I saw Mr. Parker, Mr. Govett's managing clerk—the prisoner said, "This is Mrs. White"—Ipaid Mr. Parker 5l., in part—I agreed to pay him 14l. for the action—I didnot pay him anymore—the prisoner did not advise me to pay the rest, so; that it might go on—he asked me to let him have 5l. on 26th Oct., and Igave it him—I have been to his house several times—I went there on 28th Aug., the same day that I went to Mr. Govett's, and saw Mr. Parker—Isaw the prisoner's daughter—I have seen an old gentleman—I do not knowa person named Pool—at the meeting at the Falcon, four men were by thefire-place—the prisoner took me to the window, and whispered to me what hewanted—I have not since that changed my attorney—it has never been proposedto me to change—I have not authorised the prisoner to keep thismoney, and pay it over to Mr. Cocksedge—he never told me he had not paidit to Mr. Govett—in the evening of 2nd Nov. my brother called at my house, and said, "I am come respecting this 5l., which Kerrison has received of you—the first 3l. was for Govett, for the use of his name; and I understand this 5l.—was for the clerk and Parker"—I said, "William, of course, you are mybrother, you will see all right"—he said, "Yes"—I did not send him andthe prisoner to the attorney on the other side—they came to me on 10th Nov., and said they had been to the attorney on the other side, and the casewas going on, but they must beg for a week, as no agreement was madeabout paying this money to Cocksedge—the prisoner asked me to lend him asovereign—nothing was said about this money that Kerrison held, being paidto any other person—my brother did not say a word about what was to be
done with the 5l. that the prisoner was holding—they did not say that the 5l., which Parker received, was to go to Govett for the use of his name andthe other was to be divided between the prisoner and Parker—I did notpropose to go to Govett's to get back the first 5l.—it was not agreed betweenme and my brother and Kerrison, that Mr. Cocksedge should be appointed—not a word was said about paying the money over to him which the prisonerhad had—I have no action against anybody but William Watts, for slander—this case first came before Mr. Cottingham—it came before him four times, Ithink—he discharged it, because there wanted a material witness—Mr. Govettwas there the second time—the prisoner never offered this money to me afterhe received it—he never took it out in his hand, and said, "There is themoney"—of course I did not tell him to keep it.
MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Are you and your brother friends now? A. No—I first saw the prisoner at Newington—he was introduced by my brother. Edward Govett. I have seen the prisoner twice—I never authorizedhim to act as my clerk—I did not authorize him, on 26th Oct., to get 5l. from Mrs. White, or on 15th Jan. 1l. 4s., or on 17th Jan. 2l.—I have neverreceived such sums from him.
MR. METCALFE called
JOHN PARKER . I am clerk to Mr. Govett. The prisoner and Mrs. Whitecame to my office about the middle or latter end of Aug.—an arrangementwas made with me to conduct the case of White and Watts—I received 5l., and gave her a memorandum for Mr. Govett to conduct the case—14l. altogether was to be paid—I think I saw White and the prisoner after that—I will not be sure whether it was before or after—I think I saw them in Jan., at the Judges'Chambers—I do not recollect a snmmons being taken out tochange attorneys from Mr. Govett to Mr. Cocksedge—I think the prisonersaid they were going to charge attorneys from Mr. Laramin to Mr. Cocksedge—I think that was in Jan.—I think White was there—she knew I was Mr. Govett's clerk—when they came to the office I told her Mr. Kerrisonwas not clerk to Mr. Govett—I did not say to whom he wasclerk—that was about the time she paid the money—she called I believe twice—Mr. Govettwas not at home.
GEORGE BROOKS . I am a sack-maker, at 2, Mermaid-court, in the Borough. I have been at the prisoner's house a great many times—I wasthere on 26th Oct., with Mr. Pool—the prosecutrix came in—Kerrison said itwas Mrs. White—she wished Mr. Kerrison to go somewhere to pay 5l.—hesaid he could not do it, he was engaged with Mr. Pool and me—she said, "I wish you to go with me to see me pay 5l. to Mr.—Govett"—he said, "I cannot, I am waiting for Mr. Cocksedge to go with these two gentlemen"—anagreement was made that we were all to meet at three o'clock at the Falconin Fetter-lane—Mr. Pool and I were there first, andthen Mr. Kerrison and Mrs. White came in—I stood rather towards the fire-place; Mr. Kerrisonand Mrs. White stood near the window—I think Mrs. White said, "I wishyou to take 5l. and give me a receipt in Mr. Govett's name"—Mr. Kerrisonsaid, "I cannot do it; I am not authorized to do it"—I did not hear himsay he was clerk to Mr. Govett—he said he had nothing to do with Mr. Govett—he did not say he came from the Judges' Chambers, and Mr. Govettsent him for the 5l.—Mr. Kerrison wrote a receipt, and Mrs. White putdown half-a-crown, and said that was for his trouble.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. What had you to do in thisbusiness? A. Nothing—Mr. Kerrison had business of mine to do—Mr.
Cocksedge does the business, and Kerrington, as I understood his name, was hisclerk—I have known the prisoner twelve months, by giving Mr. Cocksedgean estate to recover—I knew the prisoner as his clerk—twelve months agothe prisoner was the same as he is now, an agent, I suppose—he was notclerk to Mr. Cocksedge then—he did not tell me he was so—he has told meso since—we went to the Falcon to fix about the estate; about going downto Kent—I have never been clerk to an attorney, nor agent—I never deliveredpapers to any one, never to Mr. Cocksedge—I have never been bail—I found Mr. Cocksedge out as an attorney—I cannot say how long ago, Idare say twelve months—he introduced me to the prisoner at the time he didmy business—he told me he was his clerk.
JOHN POOL . I am a millwright, and live at 2, Merm Ald-court, Borough—I went to the prisoner's house on 26th October, with Mr. Brooks—Mrs. White came in—she asked the prisoner if he could spare time to go to Gray's-inn-lane to an attorney, to pay 5l.—he said he hadnot time, he had got Mr. Brooks' business to attend to—I had business with Mr. Brooks—Mr. Cocksedge was my attorney—the prisoner was his clerk—there was anagreement to meet at three o'clock at the Falcon, Fetter-lane—we did so—I remember the conversation taking place—Mrs. Wnite tendered five sovereignson the table, for Mr. Kerrison to take to Mr. Govett, to deliver eitherto the clerk or Mr. Govett—she wanted him to give her a receipt in Mr. Govett's name—he said, "No, I am no clerk to Mr. Govett's, you bad bettertake the money again"—she said, "No, keep it"—I saw this receipt given—(produced)—the prisoner did not say he was clerk to or was sent by Mr. Govett—he did not say he came from the Judges' Chambers, where he left Mr. Govett—I did not hear him say where he came from—she did not stopthere more than ten minutes.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Are you recovering an estate?A. No; I am attending as agent for Mr. Brooks—I am not bailiff to theestate—it is not got yet—I do not know whether I am to be bailiff—I havenot applied for the place—the estate is at Farnborough, in Kent—I havebeen to see it—I did not introduce Mr. Brooks to Mr. Cocksedge—he hadbeen introduced twelve months ago, or more—when Mr. Brooks goes in thecountry to get evidence, I go with him—he occupies the second-floor in myhouse—I occupy four floors—I think he introduced me to Mr. Cocksedge—I have known Mr. Cocksedge some time—I never was a witness—I was bailfor the prisoner.
WILLIAM WHITE . I live in Laystall-street, Mount-pleasant, and amthe. prosecutrix's brother—she called on me about the latter end of October, and asked me to go with her to Mr. Kerrison's, as she had paidhim 5l., and she was not satisfied—we went; Mr. Kerrison was not attame—we waited some time, saw his daughter, and it was appointedfor him to call on me at four o'clock on Tuesday; he did not call—I walked out, and met him—we went and drank tea with my sister, and then they began their business—Mr. Kerrison said, "There was 5l. Ireceived of you, which I will return"—she said, "Never mind, I have noobjection to your attending to my business, provided my brother goes withyou to see justice done"—I did not see any money—she asked me if I wouldgo with him—I said, "Certainly, with a great deal of pleasure"—it was togo to Mincing-lane, to Marten and Hollam's—when I called there, I foundnothing was done, and there was some money to pay—I told my sister whatthey said, and went to the prisoner's house a few days afterwards—therewas no one there the first time—the second time my sister was there, Mr.
Cocksedge came in; he, my sister, and Mr. Kerrison, agreed to employ him asthe attorney—I am sure my sister agreed to that—we went away—I said, "If they want a pound or two more they can have it, they can't go on withoutmoney"—she told me she had paid Mr. Govett 5l., and he had done nothing, and she would go to him and get it back.
Cross-examined. Q. What are you? A. A journeyman tailor—I haveknown Mr. Kerrison four or five years—he was a coffee-shop keeper—hegave that up four or five years ago—I do not know what he has been doingsince—I did not introduce him to my sister—I have known Mr. Cocksedgefive or or months, through the prisoner—my sister and I never had a misword—I did not know she was in Mr. Cockstdge's hands.
GEORGE WILLIAM COCKSEDGE . I am an attorney. I know Mrs. White—the prisoner is my clerk—I remember going to his house about 15th Nov., when Mrs. White was there—there had been an action for White and Watts—I knew of it—Mrs. White's brother was there—it was agreed that Ishould proceed with the action—that was perfectly understood, in presence of Mrs. White's brother—he had been to inquire of Marten and Hollam's, and itwas then agreed that 5l., which had been paid to Kernson, should be paid tome. and I was to go on in furtherance of that suit and settle trie businessgenerally—I have only been to Mrs. White's twice—the first time was after Nov.—I looked over her accounts, and took down evidence in writingrelative to the witnesses in this case—the ol. was paid to me afterwards, notthat day—she said she should go to Mr. Govett, and get him to return a previous 5l.—I went on with the suit as far as I could, and with other suits, andher friend has called at my house to look over papers—I have done manylittle things for her—I have issued some writs.
Cross-examined. Q. Have you issued writs lately? A. Not since March—I have been struck off the Roll in the Common Pleas, but am still anattorney of the other two Courts.
JURY to MERCY WHITE. Q. Did you see the prisoner on 15th Jan.? A. Yes; and paid him 1l. 4s.—he said he came from Mr. Govett's—Mrs. Hodgeswas here then, and she is now here—the prisoner appointed to meet me on 17th Jan. at Mrs. Hodg s' sister's, and she saw me pay the 2l.—I am surethe prisoner said he came from Mr. Govett—he said, "I am sorry to keepyou waiting so long, but Mi. Govett has detained me."
GUILTY . Aged 50.— Transported for Seven Years.
THIRD COURT.—Tuesday, June 20th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. MOON; Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE; and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq. and the Third Jury.
ANN TOWNSHEND . I am wife of James Townshend, a baker, of Bethnalgreen; the prisoner was his errand-boy, and carried out biscuits for sale. On 5th June, at a quarter before eight o'clock in the morning, I gave him atray and 4s. worth of bi-cuits—he ought to have bought them back, or themnnei—he never cr. me back—he boarded and lodged in the house—I sawhim on the 7th, and gave him in charge.
—he said he did not have all, a boy had part, and the tray was notworth 6d.
GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined Twelve Months.
JOHN ROBERTS . On 16th June, about eleven o'clock inthe day, I was in Thamos-street, felt a pull at my pocket, turned round, and saw my handkerchiefin the prisoner's hand—he put it into his right coat-pocket—I took, him—he took it out, gave it me, and said, "For God's sake, don't give mein charge?"
Prisoner. I did not take it out of your pocket? Witness. You were theonly person near me.
GUILTY . † Aged 18.— Confined Six Months.
NOT GUILTY .
JOHN SCANLAN . I am an officer of the Customs. On 11th June I wason a vessel near the West India Dock entrance—a coal-barge was lying atthe next buoy above, a boat, with a white streak, like a ship's punt, came toit from the ship above, about three o'clock in the morning—there were twomen in it—I could not see their faces; I described their dresses—the prisonersare very much like them—one was a pood deal taller than the other—the short one got out; the other one handed him a basket out of the boat—he put some coals in it, and handed it to the one in the boat, who put it intothe water, shook it, and then capsized it into the boat—they did that severaltimes—then the short one got into the boat, and they went towards Commercial Docks—I saw a police-boat, gave information, and in about half anhour they came back with the prisoners.
Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. It was not an uncommon boat?A. No—I did not see the short one walk, and cannot tell whether he waslame—he stepped from the barge—he might be lame without my noticing it; I was fifty or sixty yards off—I told the inspector one was darker than theother—I will not swear they filled the basket more than ten times—it took aquarter of an hour or twenty minutes.
GEORGE MADDOX (Thames police-inspector.) I was on the river about half-pastthree o'clock, on 11th June, I received information, and overtook a boat, sharp at each end, answering the description I had received, and the prisonersin it, going to warns Greenwich—I got into it, and found about 13 1/4 cwt. ofcoals, and a dredge, which they get coals up out of the river with; it is a neton a stick; it is not like a basket—it had mud on it—I asked the prisoners howthey accounted for the coals—Varnham said, "Some we picked up on theshore, and some we dredged up on the river"—I went to tlte barge Timothy, which Scanlan pointed out—there was a hole in the coals, where a largequantity had been taken out—they were the same sort.
Cross-examined. Q. How far did you take the prisoners from the barge?A. A mile, or a mile and a quarter—there was mud on the top of the coals—
I did not turn them over—I could not ascertain whether those on the surfacehad been dredged up;—the not appeared to have been used—they were notusing it when 1 saw them—Varnham wore a white frock; I think whiter than—the one he has now, and Daken was dressed the same as now—one's frockwas much darker than the other's—one of them was a very lame—there was abasket in the boat; it was quite clean; it had not been used for coals, unlessit had been washed since.
WILLIAM RUGG . I am lighterman to John Patient and Henry Sheppards, coal-merchants. On Saturday week last I took the Timothy to the west India Dock buoy, and left her there—the coals in it are Messrs. Patient and Sheppard's—I went again the same day, and missed about a ton—I have comparedthese coals with those in the barge; they are the same kind.
Cross-examined. Q. How do you know them? A. They are Hartley's—there has been none of them in London for five or six years—that cargowas consigned to four or five other people, but I took the first forty-two tonsout—none were lost in the river.
(Varnham received a good character.)
VARNHAM— GUILTY . ** Aged 30.— Confined Twelve Months.
DAKEN— GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Seven Years.
Before Mr. Recorder.
JOHANNA CLIFFORD . I am the wife of Eugene Clifford, of Woolwich. Theprisoner applied to me for some bread; I took her home, gave her some breadand butter and coffee, and allowed her to sleep there—about three o'clock inthe morning I found the street-door open and the prisoner gone, and a gown, shawl, bonnet and other things—she left her bonnet behind.
JAMES MARSHALL (policeman, R 335.) I went after the prisoner andovertook her at Erith, alone, carrying a bundle, at half-past seven o'clock, five miles from Mrs. Clifford's—I asked what she had got—she said, "Agown and quilt"—I asked where she brought them from—she said, "From London"—she had the bonnet, shoes, stockings and shawl on—the thingsproduced were in the bundle.
Prisoner's Defence. This woman sent me out for two or three pots ofbeer; she was drunk and gave me the things, and told me not to tell herhusband.
GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined One Year .
1585. JAMES CHEESEMAN , stealing 1 brass foot bearing 7 brasses, and a variety of articles, value 6l. the goods of Thomas Kingsford andanother; 3 razors, value 1s. 6d.; the goods of John Belton: and 4 razorsand 2 cases value 2s. 6d.; the goods of David Button; and HANNAH JOHNSON ", feloniously receiving the same: to which
CHEESE MAN pleaded GUILTY . Aged 17.— Transported for Seven Years.
JOHN BELTON . I am an engine-driver, in the service of Thomas and Charles Kingsford, of Thames-mil), Butcher-row, Deptford. On Saturdaynight, 20th May. I locked up the mill, and took away the keys. On Sundaymorning, when I went to the mill, I found a ladder placed against a window, which bad been left open—the place had been entered by that means, and Imissed a quantity of brass, lead, a broom, and some razors—some flour wasspilt on the window-sill and some outside the premises.
JOHN WHITE (policeman, R 180.) I went to the prisoner Johnson's house, in New-street, Deptford, about eleven o'clock on the morning of the 21st May—I asked whether her son, or John Cheeseman, or Epsom were there—she said, "No, you know better than that; you know my son is down at Maidstone for a month"—I said I was not aware of it, and went away—I went again with Carpenter about eight in the evening, and asked whether shehad any objection to our searching her place—she said she bad; we shouldnot do so without a warrant—I said I should—I searched a drawer in the; room which she said was hers and found these seven pieces of brass (produced)—I asked how she accounted for those—she said she did not know they werethere—I also searched this basket, which was hanging up in the room, andfound seven razors and two cases—I asked how she accounted for them—shesaid she did not know anything at all about them—in a cupboard 1 foundpart of a grease-box—she said she knew nothing at all about that.
JOHN CARPENTER (policeman, R 84.) I went with White to Johnson's, andsaw him find these things—I took her into custody—i asked whether shehad not any other room in the house—she at first said "No"—I said, "Where Cheeseman slept"—she then said she had another room where he slept—sheshowed me into a room on the same floor, and. said, "This is my room, and this is where Cheeseman and my son sleep," pointing to a bed on the ground—I was about searching, she said I should not search without a warrant—Isaid I should—I asked whose boxes they were—she said hers—I searchedthem, and in the bottom of one, containing female wearing apparel, I foundthis quantity of brass, and in another box, also containing female wearingapparel, I found the remainder of these articles (produced)—there are fouror five brass cocks, and other things—I asked how she became possessed ofthem—she said she knew nothing about them—I then returned to the otherroom, and in a cupboard found a dish containing flour—I asked how shecame by that—she said she bought it on the Saturday, a portion she had usedfor their dinners and that was the remainder—I then took her to the station—she was remanded for a week, and on the day of re-examination 1 asked herto tell me how she accounted for the flour—she said, "I told you before; Ibought it of a corn-chandler in Flagon-row, and that is the remainder of whatwe had for our dinner"—I asked whether she knew anything of any otherfour—she said, "Oh yes. I have heard you have found the other flour, and I will not get anybody into trouble on my account; those people have beenkind friends to me (mentioning their names); I sent it by my little girl, and what I have done I will take upon myself: it was the flour I had of Cheeseman"—I had learned from Cheeseman that this room was his, and Ifound his coat there with brass and lead in the pockets—I had seen himwearing that coat on several occasions, and he claimed it at the station andasked me to let him wear it.
CHARLOTTE GIDLEY . I live at 8, John-street, Deptford. I know Johnsonby her coming to-and-fro to our house. On 21st May a parcel of flour wasbrought to my house—I had had no conversation with her about it.
Kingsford's—these razors are mine, and these are David Button's—I knownothing of Cheeseman.
Johnson's Defence. I was in bed at seven o'clock that evening; Cheese-manwas at here when I went home; I know nothing of it.
JOHNSON— GUILTY . Aged 41.— Transported for Seven Years .
Before Edward Bullock, Esq.
JOHN WATKINS . I am a grocer, at Richard-street, Woolwich, On 14th April, the prisoner came and said he was the steward of the Investigator, andcame from the officers of the gun-room for some grocery—he brought a bookwith the order written in it for tea, coffee, sugar, &c.—I supplied them,—, knowing there was a vessel fitting out at the tune—he su'd the officers wouldsettle the book every week, and asked me for 29. to purchase a basket to takethem in—I lent it him—he returned with a basket, and took away the goods—I afterwards met him in Parliament-street, and spoke to him about thegoods—he said he was very sorry he had obtained them, he had used them—I gave him in charge.
WILLIAM BUCHANN . I am a grocer, at Wellington-street, Woolwich. On 14th April the prisoner came and asked for some szoods for the officers ofthe Enterprize—there was a vessel of that name lying above—I offered tosend the goods—he said I could not get on board with them, and unless I lethim take them he would not have them—he wanted 2s. tobuy a basket to take them with him—I did not supply them.
GUILTY. Aged 52.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Four Months.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant.
MESSRS. BODKIN and CLERK conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN HAYWARD . I am a clerk, in the office of the Solicitor to the Treasury. I produce a certificate of the conviction, sentence, and order of transportationof John Magee, signed by Mr. Rodmgson, the clerk of the Crown-office, who sealed it in mv piesence—(read—John Magee convicted 15th june, 1840, of desertion, and transported for fourteen Years.)
JOHN CARR . I was drummer in the 29th regiment—I am now discharged. The prisoner was a private soldier in that regiment in May, 1840—we were in the same company, and were at the Royal Artillery-barracks, Woolwich—I heard sentence ui fourteen years' transportation pronounced onhim on the garrison parade, for desertion, and saw him marched from theparade.
Prisoner. Q. What do you know me by? A. By your appearance andsize—I have not the least doubt of you.
GEORGE DEVEREUX . I am inspector of police at Portsmouth. On 21st Feb., 1818. I was at the station there—the prisoner came, about two o'clockin the morning, and ifave himself up as a returned comict—he said his namewas John Magee; that he was tried as a deserter from the 29th regiment andreceived sentence of transposition for fourteen years; that he made his escapefrom New South Wales, and came back to see his wife, and found she was dead—I took him before the Borough Justices,. ind was present at his examination
—he made a statement, which was written down—he made this mark to it—(read)—"The prisoner states, 'I have nothing more to say than what I saidto the police-officer, except I told him my friends were dead, and not thatmy wife was dead, and I acknowledge what I told the police-officer in allrespects.'"
(The prisoner put in a written defence, stating that all he said at thepolice-station was false, and that he said it to get discharged from his ship, asthe captain was a tyrant.)
GUILTY . Aged 32.— Transported for Life .
ELIZABETH BROWN . I am single, and keep a stationer's shop in High-street, Deptford. On 24th May, about ten o'clock, I saw a man standing attie counter—two men followed him, and asked if I sold percussion-caps—Isaid, "No"—they went away, and I missed four silver pencil-cases, some pins, and two cases, from a glass-case—these are my pins—(produced.)
Arno's Defence. I found the pins.
Wheeler's Defence. We picked up the pins by the Greenwich Railway-arch.
ARNO *— GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Months. WHEELER— GUILTY . Aged 20. BELL— GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Four Months.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq.
GUILTY . Aged 48.— Confined Eight Days .
Before Mr. Common Serjeant.
CONSTABLE pleaded GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined Six Months.
WOOD pleaded GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Nine Months.
GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined Six Months.
Before Mr. Recorder.
JAMES HARGREAVES . I am foreman to John Brogden. A viaduct isbeing constructed at Deptford—this shaft was there—it was new but threeyears since, and had been but little used—it is worth from 5l. to 6l.—threemen could not lift it—this collar goes on one end of it—I found it in an iron-shopat Bankside—I had not seen it for six or seven months before.
Messrs. Winter and Rix, of Bankide, on 27th May, by a mannamed Marshall—there was another man with him, but not either of theprisoners.
JOSEPH TARGETT . On 25th May I saw the three prisoners loading a cartwith this shaft in Rolt-street, Deptford—they asked me to lend them a hand—I did so—the two Haynes', gave me part of a pot of beer—Simmonsremained with the cart, nnd drove off.
Richard Haynes. Q. Was there not another man? A. I did not seeany other.
Robert Haynes. Q. You said that a man with red whiskers and a backcoat went with us, and had some beer? A. I did not notice any other.
Simmons. A man who hired me stood by the cart.
CORNELIUS RIORDEN . On 25th May I was in Rolt-street, Deptford, andsaw a horse and cart under the road arch—Simmons and Richard Hayneswere there, and a young man with red hair and a black coat—"Mary Croxon, Deptford," was on the cart—I went home to dinner, came back about twoo'clock, and saw the cart under the arch—Simmons was leading the horse—the two Havnes' were walking direct from the cart—the man with carrotyhair was in the cart—I did not see the shaft in it.
Robert Haynes. I wish Strutt, who first bought the iron, to be broughthere; he was before the Magistrate; the iron was sold a second time to theperson who is here now; Strutt bought it of a man in a black coat; Simmonswas employed, being a carman.
Simmons. The man who hired the cart of my master, Mr. Christie, worea black coat; my master borrowed the cart of Croxon, his own cart beingbroken; my master came to the station and applied for the cart, and promissedme he would be here on the trial.
NOT GUILTY .
MR. RYLAND conducted the Prosecution.
AMOS CLARKSON . I am foreman to John Brogden, contractor for somerailway work at Deptford. On 29th May I missed five rails, which I saw safewhen I took stock about a month before—Key sowed me some rails the sameday—I judged them to be Mr. Brogden's, because there were holes in them toput the njils in, and by their being daubed with mortar—they were worthabout 3l.—I do not know the prisoners—I had not employed them toremove thorn.
JAMES HARGREAVES . I am one of Mr. Brogden's foremen. I saw therails at the station, and believe them to be Mr. Brogden's—they are likethose that remain—I have satisfied myself that they were originally laiddown there.
CORNELIUS RIORDEN . I am labourer. On 27th May, about half-pastfour o'clock, I was in Rolt-street, Deptford, under the railway arch—Sinmonsbacked a cart under the arch—I knew him, having seen him on the Thursday before—I could not see what was done with the cart, but I saw itagain in Rolt-street—Garrett had stopped it, and was questioning Simmons—therewere rails in it—Simmons said he was hired bv two men, who were to
give him 5s. to take it to the Blackfriars-road—Richard Haynes was thenbout 150 yards down Rolt-street—Simmons pointed that way—I do notknow whether he pointed to Haynes or not.
WILLIAM GARRETT . I am a labourer, at Deptford. On 27th May I wasin Rolt-street, and saw Simmons with a cart against the railway—he movedseren or eight arches up, and then backed it under the arch—I had seen Richard Haynes and another man, who I believe was Robert Haynes, aboutfire minutes before, standing at the corner of Rolt-street, close by the railway—they went after the cart, under the railway arch, and Richard stoopeddown three or four times—I cannot say whether he was picking anything up—the cart stood there seven or eight minutes—Simmons then brought it out, and the other two men went away down the railway—I stopped the cart—ithad seven or eight rails in it, the same as those used on the railway—I asked Simmons where he was going to take them—he said to Blackfriars-road, and two men had employed him—he pointed to Richard and the other man—I went after them, and found Richard—I told him the cart was broken down, and his mate wanted him—he asked what mate—I said that man that waswith him under the railway—he went a little way with me, and then wentaway in a different direction.
HENRY BROOKS . I live at Deptford. On 27th May I was passing Rolt-street, about half-past four o'clock—I saw a horse and cart standing under theroad-arch—the three prisoners were with it—they turned down by the side ofthe railway, went seven or eight arches off, and backed the cart under therailway-arch—they remained seven or eight minutes—the cartthen came out, and was stopped by Garrett—there were iron rails in it.
SAMUEL CHRISTIE . I am a corn-chandler at Park-road, New Peckham, and keep a horse and cart—Simmons has been in my employ—I have frequentlylent him a horse and cart—I gave him the order to get my father'shorse and cart on the Friday—he did not get it till the Saturday—he owedme some money, and said if I let hhn have the horse and cart he wouldpay me what he owed me, that he wanted to carry some chimney-piecesfrom Martin's-lane to Camberwell—I bad lent him a cart on the Thursdayfor the same purpose—I did not know it was to take rails—on the Saturdaynight the policeman told me my cart was stopped, and sent to the Green-yard.
RICHARD WILLIAM KEY (policeman, R 339.) I found Simmons andthe horse and cart with eight bars of iron in it, stopped by Garrett, on Saturdayafternoon, May 27th: I asked Simmons who authorized him to have them—he said two men, and he was to have 5s. to take them to Blackfriars-road—I sent Garrett there—on 8th June I apprehended Richard Haynes, at Rotherhithe—he said he knew nothing about it.
Simmons. I described the two men that employed me; these two mendo not answer the description.
ROBERT BRANFORD (police-sergeant, M 12.) I took Robert Haynes, on 9th June—he said he knew nothing about it—I was present when theprisoners were examined—they said something which was taken down andread over—Mr. Jeremy signed it—this is his writing—(read—"Simmons says, 'The men who were with me are not these men my fellow prisoners; one was acarrotty—headed man, the other dressed as a navigator.'"
Richard Haynes. I was not there; I had nothing to do with loading theiron.
Robert Haynes. They said there was a man of my size, but they did notswear I was there.
Simmons. These men were not with me; I sold things with the horseand cart; I had it every week.
ROBERT BRANFORD re-examined. I produce a certificate of Robert Haynes' conviction at this Court—(read—Convicted 4th June, 1847, for stealing on, having been before convicted—confined six months)—he is the man.
(Mary Ann Smith, of Crosby-row, Peckham, gave Simmons a good character.)
RICHARD HAYNES— GUILTY . Aged 30.
ROBERT HAYNES *— GUILTY . Aged 26.
SIMMONS †— GUILTY . Aged 20.
Transported for Seven Years.
THOMAS THATCHER . I am ostler, at the George Inn, Lewisham. On 22nd—May, I was at the stable door—the prisoner was drinking there, but notwith me—I called for a pot of beer, and paid for it—the prisoner saw me pullmy purse out—I went to the stable—she followed me—in two minutes I missed my purse, containing three sovereigns, six half-crowns, and 13s. 6d. in silver, as near as I can state—she was then gone—I sent Fuller after her—he brought her back.
WILLIAM FULLER . Thatcher sent me after the prisoner—I overtook herabout a mile off, and as we came back she offered me money to let her go-Itold her I could not—she gave me half-a-crown, and a little further on gaveme another—I brought her down, and gave the policeman the money.
Prisoner. He took the money out of my hand; I vvns intoxicated; hetook the handkerchief off my neck, and ill-used me. Witness. It is false.
BENJAMIN HARRIS . On the afternoon, of 22nd May, I was with the prisonerat the Black Horse, before she went to the George—when she was inthe station-house yard, she ran up to me, and said, "Let me have a smoke, "and put two half-crowns into my pocket—the policeman saw it, and took meinto the station.
ARCHIBALD STEWART (policeman, R 326.) I was at the station-housedoor, opposite the George Inn. On 22nd May, I saw Thatcher and the prisonerdrinking—he went into the stable, and the prisoner followed him, andin two or tiree minutes she me out, and went up the lane—she was broughtback by Fuller, and given in charge—Fuller gave me two half-crowns—twohalf-crowns and some halfpence were taken from Harris, and the prisonergave up two half-crowns and 13s. 6d. in silver—Thatcher said he had lostthree sovereigns in gold, and 28s. in silver, and among it six half-crowns—I have recovered 28s. 6d. altogether, but no gold.
Prisoner's Defence. The money was my own; I had it to buy fruit; theold man wanted to take liberties with me.
GUILTY . Aged 42.— Confined Six Months.
Before Mr. Recorder.
1595. WILLIAM JONES , feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Stephen Neate, and stealing. 1/2lb. weight of coffee, and otherarticles, value 4s. 6d.; the goods of Sarah Ann Neate, his mistress;to whichhe pleaded GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined One Year .
ENOCH CLARKE . I am a japanner and table-cover printer, in partnershipwith Charles Walden, at 2, Neate-street, Camberwell. The prisoner was inour service about five years—on 22nd May, I was informed by one of myboys that the prisoner had taken a table-cover from one of the shops I wentand found him at a public-house—I asked him if he had taken the table-cover—he said, "No, he had a table-cover, but he had it from a hawker inthe Albany-road"—I asked him to go with me to the factory—in going along, he said the table-cover he had was a draft-board pattern, and when he producedit it was a different pattern—I knew it to be mine, and gave him incharge—he was taken to the station, and another table-cover was taken fromhis hat, which was also mine—these are them (produced.)
JOHN SILVERSIDE . I am in the prosecutors' employ. On the afternoon, of 22nd May, I saw the prisoner take this table-cover out of the workshop, fold it up, and put it under his apron—I told my master—this piece ofcanvas was found at his lodging—it has my masters' mark on it—it belongsto ray masters.
GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined Three Months.
JOSHUA JUDGE (Thames Police-inspector.) About one o'clock in themorning, of 7th June, I saw the prisoner rowing a boat down the river at Horsleydown—I pursued and found in it two sacks, containing eight bushelsof wheat—the sacks were marked "W. Murrell, Staines"—I asked the prisonerwhat he had got in the boat—he said, "Two sacks of wheat"—I said, "Have you got a note of it?"—he said, "No"—I said, "Where did youbring it from?"—he said from a barge lying at Horsleydown—I asked if heknew the name of the barge, or the master—he said, "No"—he afterwardssaid the barge had gone away—I afterwards went on board the barge Hope, at Horsleydown—Icalled the master up, and he said that he was loaded withwheat, and that his sacks were marked "W. Murrell, Staines"—he examinedhis cargo, and said three sacks had been taken away—the prisoner then said, "Put the wheat on board, and let the old man have his boat"—he said hehad been drinking with a man in a white frock at a public-house in Vine-yard, and that he told him to go on board and get two sacks of wheat whichwere over the number—he further said, that on coming down Pickle Herringstairs, he saw a boat with the sacks in it—I took him there, and askeda boatman named Spong there, if he had seen a boat there with wheat in it—he said, "No"—the prisoner said, "Oh yes, there was"—Spong said, "Itis no such thing, I have been here the whole of the night"—I found thatthe prisoner belongs to the barge Stanborough, and the boat he bad belongedto that barge—he was going in a direction towards that barge when I stoppedhim—I took him on board, and the master said in his presence that he
thought he was in bed—the wheat and sacks exactly corresponded with thoseon board the Hope.
JOHN HARDING . I am in the service of James Murrell and others. Ihad 212 quarters of wheat in my charge, in 424 sacks to take to Chertsy—they were all safe at ten o'clock over night—about one in the morning Judgearoused me, and I missed three sacks—the sacks and wheat produced by Judge corresponded with the bulk I had, and the sacks are similarly marked.
Prisoner. I was intoxicated when I did it.
GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined One Year .
HENRY MERRITT . I live at Clapham. On the afternoon of the 18th May, I was passing Mr. Cherry's, at Clapham-common, in a cart, and saw Martin in his yard—he took some handkerchiefs off a line, and put themunder his coat—Harrison and Vigo were watching outside the gates, whichwere open—Martin joined them—they all ran—I gave an alarm, and thenfollowed them with two of Mr. Cherry's men—we stopped them—Martin waslying in the furze.
JOHN HATFIELD . I am servant to Mr. Cherry, a veterinary surgeon. Merritt alarmed me, I went outside the gates, and saw the prisoners sittingunder six trees on the common—they saw us running after them, and ranaway—one kept on the common—I took three handkerchiefs from Harrissonand one from Vigo—we went back and took Martin in some furze.
Harrison's Defence. Some boys dropped them; I picked them up; Martin was not with me; we saw him afterwards.
(Martin received a good character.)
HARRISSON— GUILTY . * Aged 17.— Confined Six Months. VIGO— GUILTY . Aged 13.— Confined Three Months. MARTIN— GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Nine Months.
WILLIAM EASTGATE MERRITT . I am a licensed victualler, of Victoria-street, Holborn-bridge. On 26th May J was coming from Epsom races, and wentinto the King's Head, Upper Tooting, between eight and nine o'clock—I hada gold watch in my waistcoat pocket, with a guard-chain—as I came out to goto the coach the prisoner asked me to have some brandy—I declined—he wasclose to me—his hand was about a foot from me, as if it came from me—Ifelt my chain drop from my pocket on to mys tomach—I called, "Stop thief!"as he moved away, and ran after him—I got near him, he stopped short, butted me in the stomach with his head, knocked me down, and ran away—I found my watch swivel unscrewed—this is the watch and the ring of it (produced.)
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTIXE. Q. Were other persons near you?A. Several round about.
JOHN MITCHELL . I saw Mr. Merritt run after the prisoner, who hit him I with his head and then with his fist, and knocked him down—I saw himstopped) and had not lost sight of him—he passed Mr. Clark's house.
SARAH PERRY . I am in the service of Mr. Clark, of Upper Tooting. On 26th May, about nine o'clock at night, I was seeing the company come from Epsom—an alarm was given—I found this watch in the garden—I gave it to Howe.
JOHN BURGESS BARKER (policeman, N 318.) I stopped the prisoner abouthalf a mile from the King's Head—Merritt charged him with stealing a goldwatch—he knocked me down three times and kicked me—I took him to thestation with two constables' assistance.
GUILTY . Aged 24.— Transported for Ten Years.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq.
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Transported for Seven Years.
1602. WILLIAM WARNER , feloniously and knowingly uttering aforged warrant for the payment of 1l. 15s.; also one other warrant for 1l. 9s. 2d.; with intent to defraud Edmund Reddin; to which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 29.— Transported for Seven Years.
GUILTY . ** Aged 79.— Transported for Ten Years.
JOHN HUNT . I am a carman, of Vauxhall-terrace. I employed the prisoner—I have known him above a year—I paid him for some work, andgave him 7s. over his agreement—after that he sent in his bill, and I wouldnot pay it, as I did not owe it—on 31st May I went to my shed, in High-street, Vauxhall. and saw the prisoner there and Costin, who said, "Here is Mr. Hunt, and now what you have got to say speak it to his face"—the prisoner began abusing me—a mob came round—I told him to go away fromthere, and said, if he was a younger man I would give him a good shaking—Itouched him lightly on the arm, and requested him to walk out of my place, and said, "If 1 owe you anything, get it in a civil sort of way"—he calledme a thief—I thought he was going out—I went up to Costin, who wasthere—the prisoner up with this hammer and struck me over the left eye—my forehead was cut and bled very much—I fell back against a brick wall—he was making his way off—I grabbed him at the back by the hair, and took
the wrench from him—he ried to break my forefinger—I pave him in charge—he had often said he would serve the b----out, but I never thought thatwas the way he was going to serve me.
Prisoner. I told the painter he would not get his money; you collaredme and crushed my hand. Witness. I did not.
JOHN COSTIN . I am a coach-painter. I was in Mr. Hunt's yard, goingto paint—when I opened the door the prisoner walked in behind me—I hadnever seen him before—he began saying I should never get paid for my work—Mr. Hunt came, and I said, "Here is Mr. Hunt; if you have anything to say tohim, say it to his face"—they had words about some money—Mr. Hunt ordered him out—he refused to go—Mr. Hunt told him the place didnot belong to him, asked him to go out, put his hand on his shoulder, andsaid, if there was any difference between them they must go and settle itsomewhere else—he turned round and struck him over the eye with a wrench—it bled a great deal—Mr. Hunt never struck him.
Prisoner's Defence. Mr. Hunt broke his contract with me; I had thewrench in my hand, and used it to extricate myself when he was choking me.
MR. HUNT re-examined. I owe him nothing—he never finished the workhe contracted to do—I have since paid a man 25s. to finish it.
GUILTY of an Assault . Aged 42.— Confined Six Months.
Before Mr. Justice Patteson.
MESSRS. SCRIVEN and CLERK conducted the Prosecution.
FRANCIS FREDERICK CLEAVER . I am assistant to Mr. Trent, a linen-draper, of Dover-road. On 2nd June, the prisoner came and purchased two 1d. flowers—she gave me a counterfeit shilling—I asked her where she lived—she said 24, Mint-street—I sent for a policeman, and gave her intocustody—I gave the shilling to Morris, and saw him give it to the policeman.
Prisoner. Q. Did not I tell you that I lived at 24, Kent-street? A. No, you said at Evans', 24, Mint-street—I believe you bought a yard of pennyribbon also—you offered to pay for the things in copper.
JAMES BURTON (policeman, M 272.) On 2nd June I received this shilling from Morris—I have kept it ever since—I took the prisoner into custody—Cleaverasked her address—she said 24, Mint-street—I told her she did not lire there—I knew her, and knew that she lived at 45, Castle-street, Kent-street—shethen said she lived at 24, Maypole-alley, which is where her mother lives—she said it was the first time she had ever done such a thing—after taking herto the station, I went to her lodging at 45, Castle-street, with sergeant Collins—I saw Mr. Child, the landlord, who showed me the prisoner's room—it wasthe top room—the door was merely on the latch—I searched the room—Ifound this pipkin on the mantel-piece, with a small portion of metal in it—I also found this counterfeit half-crnun in the cupboard—I found these two
pieces of plaster-of-Paris, and some in powder—I saw Collins find a mould inthe ashes under the stove.
CHARLES CHILD . I am landlord of the house, 45, Castle-street, Kent-street. Burton and Collins came there on 2nd June—I showed them the room theprisoner had occupied for about two months—my wife received therent.
COURT. Q. Did the prisoner occupy the room alone, or was anybody withher? A. Her husband and herself together—her husband lived with her—he was not at home when the police came—he had been at home that day.
HARRIET CHILD . The prisoner lived in our house—she and her husbandtook the room together about two months ago—sometimes the prisoner paidthe rent, and sometimes her husband—her husband's brother also lived inthe room.
Prisoner. Q. Did my husband or his brother come to the house after Iwent out that morning? A. No; I do not know where they are gone to—you paid me the rent between six and seven that evening—I did not see yourhusband after three—I do not remember seeing the brother after the morning—there is no lock to the door.
Prisoner's Defence. I found the shilling on the mantel-piece.
NOT GUILTY .
GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Six Months.
MR. CLERK conducted the Prosecution.
CALEB EDWARD POWELL . I am assistant-solicitor to the Royal Mint. Iproduce a copy of the record of the conviction of Jane Chappell at this Court—I have compared it with the original—it is correct—(read—Convicted April, 1846, and Confined Nine Months.)
SUSANNA WILLIS . I am the wife of Robert Willis, a cheesemonger, of White-street, Southwark. On 2nd June, about two in the afternoon, theprisoner came to our shop for a piece of ham—it came to 4d.—she gaveme a good half-crown in payment, and 1 gave her 2s. 2d. change—the twoshillings were good—she said she would not have the ham unless I gave heranother penny—she would have her money back again—I refused to let herhave it for 3d., and gave her her money back—I then told her she couldhave it for 3 1/2 d.—she threw down another half-crown—it was not the oneshe had given me before—I told her it was bad—she said if I did not likethat there was another one, gave me a good one, and took up the other one—I gave her change again, the same shillings, and another halfpenny—shethen said she would not have it except I let her have it for 3d.—she thenthrew the shillings down on the counter—I saw that one of them was bad, and told her it was not the same that I had given her—she said it was, andsaid she should not go except I gave her another shilling—I told her I shouldnot do so, as I had not given her a bad one—I called the policeman, and
when she saw him coming, she wished for the change and the meat, and tohgo—I gave the policeman the shilling, and he took the bad half-crown fromher hand.
Prisoner. Q. Did you not, when you gave me the change for the firsthalf-crown, put it on the counter? A. Yes; and it remained there—I did not put it in my purse when you said you would not have the ham—I did put the first half-crown in my purse—I said the half-crown was badwhen you put it down—you took it from your hand.
COURT. Q. How do you know you gave her back the same one?A. Because it was at the top of my purse—I had not moved my purse—itlaid on the counter, so that it could not have gone down among the othermoney—I am sure the bad shilling she gave me had not been given her byme in the first instance.
MR. POWELL re-examined. The half-crown and shilling are both counterfeit.
Prisoner's Defence. I did not put my hand near the money on the counter; Mrs. Willis turned out seven or eiht half-crowns on the counter; she gaveme the shilling.
GUILTY . ** Aged 58.— Transported for Ten Years.
MESSRS. BODKIN and CLERK conducted the Prosecution.
HENRY CARR . I am a turnkey in the Queen's Prison, and superintendentof the night-watch. On 17th May the prisoner was confined there as a Crownprisoner, among the third class of debtors—in consequence of somethingthat occurred about half-past eight o'clock, I went with Dennis and Martin, two other officers, to his room to search for spirits—Dennis said he bad cometo search the room by order of the Governor—the prisoner said, "Search," or"Search away"—Dennis went to one corner of the room and I to another—the prisoner said to Dennis, "You have been annoying my family for sometime"—he directly Ald hold of Dennis by the collar and struck him—I wentto his assistance, and he struck me also—he then made a rush to the oppositeside of the room, where there was a cupboard, snatched up a knife in onehand, and a knife and fork in the other—I followed close after him, supposingit was his intention to destroy some spirits—when I saw the knife in onehand, and the knife and fork in the other, I rather shrunk back, and herushed at Dennis—I ran towards him and attempted to lay hold of him, andhe stabbed me in the left wrist—I have not been able to use my arm since—Major Hawkes and the prisoner's wife and daughter were in the room.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. How many of you went into theroom at first? A. Three—the prisoner's daughter, who is more than sevenyears old, was there—I do not know whether his wife and daughter had beensupping there that night—my conduct was quite peaceable—I swear I didnot call the prisoner a b—villain, or a villain, or any such name—I calledhim a scoundrel when I saw him rushing at Dennis with the knives—I didnot call him a b—scoundrel—that is an expression I am not in the habit ofmaking use of—the Governor is here—the prisoner did not say before theinjury happened that he should see his wife to the gate—I heard nothing ofthe sort—I did not hear Dennis say, "I will be d—if vou shall until we
have made our search"—I think that could not have been said without myhearing it—the knives and forks were not on the table—there was noappearance of the supper having just concluded—I and the prisoner had astruggle after he had stabbed me, for I laid hold of his collar to prevent hisdoing further mischief—I saw Captain M'Kenzie there—I did not see Mr. Renaw—I know him—I did not see Arthur Powell there, or Mr. Clark, or Mr. John Simpson—I swear I did not call the prisoner a b—villain, orrascal, or anything of the kind.
WILLIAM DENNIS . I am a turnkey in the Queen's Prison. I accom-panied Carr to the prisoner's room on this evening—I said, "Mr. Stickland, we are sent to search your room"—I do not think 1 said what for—he said, "Then search away"—I went to a tub where there were some bottles, tookthem out of the tub, and placed them on the table—the prisoner thenturned round to a shelf, took a jug, and began to pour its contents into somevessel on the floor—I told him he must not do that, supposing it to be spirits, and put out my hand to take the jug from him—he turned round, seized meby the neck, and struck me several blows in the breast and side, and said, "You have been in the habit of annoying my family for some time past"—Carr then came to my assistance, and he struck him also—he then flew tothe opposite side of the room to a cupboard, and took out a knife and fork inthe left hand, and a knife in the right hand, and turned round and stabbed meand Carr—I then took hold of him, and told him he must go with me to the Governor—Carr was not able to hold him, so we could not take him by force—Captain M'Kenzie took the knives from him—he then turned round againand took two bottles from the cupboard, placed one in each coat pocket, satdown on the chair, and said he was in his room, and there he should remain—I turned my head to look at some one at the-door, and he threw a bottle atme, which struck me in the back of the neck—I turned, and he was in theact of throwing another—I stooped and avoided the blow, and it broke inpieces against the wall—I then left the room, to report it to the Governor—they ivere half-pint glass bottles—Major Hawkes, Mr. Stickland, and hislittle girl were there—Captain M'Kenzie, who is a prisoner there, came inafter the stabs were given.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSOX. Q. Is this the first time you haveever said that? A. No—I was very peaceable and quiet towards theprisoner—J am not aware that I had been annoying him and his family—Ihad searched his room twice before—he never made me any compliment—Ishould not have taken it—Carr was quiet and peaceable—we went into theroom unexpectedly—his child is twelve or thirteen years old—I think she ismore than six or seven—his wife and family were frequently in and out ofthe prison—I never saw them at their meals there—I have seen them come inbefore supper, and go out afterwards—neither I or Carr used any vulgarlanguage to him—Carr said, "You scoundrel, you have stabbed me," orsomething of that sort—that was after the prisoner had stabbed him—I didnot hear him say anything else—he handled me first—the bottle that struckme in the neck did not hurt me—the wound I received from the knife is onmy left arm, about half an inch long, and about one-eighth of an inch deep—I do not know whether the prisoner had been having his supper that night—there was a woollen cloth on the table, not a linen cloth—I did not selectthat as the time to go; I was sent—no visiters are admitted after seveno'clock—we lock up at ten in term time—I think this was in term—theprisoner's wife went at nine, about twenty minutes after this occurred—theprisoner was not secured then—I did not hear him say he wished to take her
to the gate—I do not know that that was his habit—I do not attend to thegate—I never saw him do so—I never heard him express a desire to see hiswife to the gate—I did not say I would be d—if he should do so until Ihad searched the room.
MR. BODKIN. Q. I think you said something was poured out? A. Yes, I got a little of it on my hand; I think it was gin—the bottles that I put on the table were full—they were common wine-bottles, except one—Ido not know what they contained.
FRANCIS MARTIN . I am a watchman in the Queen's Prison. I accompanied Dennis and Carr to the prisoner's room—he was sitting down—Dennis said, "Mr. Stick land, we are come to search your room"—he said, "Search away"—Dennis began to search directly—the prisoner went towardsthe window, and from there Dennis took some bottles, and put them onthe table—Stickland poured something out of a jug into a pail—Dennis toldhim he must not do that, and he turned round and struck him and then Carr, and as he was going to the cupboard, he said, "You have been annoyingmy family very much lately"—Dennis said, "I am not aware of that"——the prisoner then opened the cupboard door, took a knife in his right hand, and a knife and fork in the left, turned round, and stabbed Dennis and Carr—I saw blood flow, and went to their assistance—I was at the door tokeep it shut, and let no one in or out; and when I went to their assistance, Captain M'Kenzie came in—that was after they had been stabbed—the prisonergave the knives up to Captain M'Kenzie—Dennis said to the prisoner, "You must go along with me to the governor"—the prisoner then went tothe cupboard again, took two bottles from it, and put one in each coat-pocket, and then took one out, threw it at Dennis, and struck him in the back part of thehead—Dennis stooped a little, and the second one wentagainst the wall.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. You had all three been qtretthe whole of the time? A. Yes—none of us used any violent language, I amquite sure—Dennis and Carr took hold of the prisoner after he had stabbedthem, to take the knives away—I am quite sure that was after he hadstabbed them—I saw it distinctly—they took hold of his arms to keep themdown, or he would have stabbed again—we did not shake him in the least—I cannot say whether Carr called him a scoundrel.
MR. CLERK. Q. Was any violence used by any of you before he stabbed Carr? A. No.
WILLIAM MATTON . I am a turnkey in the Queen's Prison. On themorning after this disturbance had taken place, I went into the prisoner'sroom and found this knife (produced), it now presents the same appearanceas when 1 found it—there is a stain of blood on the point.
Cross-examined. Q. Was it like the rest of the knives appearing to havebeen used over night? A. Yes, except the blood at the point—they were allon a tray in the cupboard.
ROBERT LITTLE HOOPER . I am a surgeon. On 17th May, in the evening, I was called to the Queen's Prison—I examined Carr, and found anincised wound on his wrist, about two inches long and half an inch deep—itis not yet healed—it might have been inflicted by such a knife as this—when I first saw the knife there was blood on the point of it.
Cross-examined. Q. Did not you state in your deposition that the woundwas one-eighth of an inch? A. I really believe I have made a mistake—itwas not a serious wound.
GUILTY of an Assault. — Confined One Year .
Before Mr. Baron Rolfe.
NOT GUILTY .
Before Edward Bullock, Esq.
MR. BRIARLY conducted the Prosecution.
PATRICK PUNCH , The male prisoner is my step-son—the female is hiswife—they lodged in the same house with me—last Saturday three weeksthe woman broke my window, and I asked her to repair it—she said shewould not till it suited her own convenience—at one o'clock I sent to herhusband to put in the window to prevent the night air coming on the top ofme, and they told me they would give me the poker with which they brokein the window—I said, "It is better for you not, for I am not deserving ofit, I only want, you to mend the window you broke"—both immediatelyjumped up, and he struck me with his fist, and she struck me with the pokeron the side of my own bed—I got several blows, till the blood rushed down myface, and I laid stretched speechless on the bed, till my little boy came—themale prisoner held me, and struck me with his fist, while she hit me—he hadno weapon—I crawled out of the house, and called out "Murder!" threetimes—they both followed me out—the female had the poker, and kept on, striking me on the poll with it—I could not bate her one blow—at last it fellout of her hand—I was beat right and left with the poker—he offered me asovereign if I was able to strike her one blow—this is the poker (produced)—and this is the shirt I had on at the time (produced)—I received six or sevencuts on the head and ear, and was at the hospital three days—I had notdone anything to the prisoners.
Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. You are always very quiet and peaceable?A. Yes—I swear I made use of no bad language—I asked the womanto pay for mending the window, but she would not, nor get it mended—Iwas not very angry—I swear I did not say to her and her husband, that Ihad made a wh—of her—I had slept with her, but I did not say so—theman had hold of my wrist all the time she was beating me—I did not beatthem—I had not the power to do anything when she was beating me on thehead—she is stronger than me—she was beating my wife with a chair, andher mother-in-law too, and when she would not let her beat her, she brokethe window—I had desired them to leave the house.
RICHARD PUNCH . I am the prosecutor's son, and am fourteen years old. On this day, at one o'clock, I came in to dinner, and the woman slammedthe door in my face—my father was sitting on the bed, got up, and said that I should come in, and the two prisoners then got up from their dinner—thefemale got a knife, and they both struck him—I cannot say whether shestruck him with the knife—she then got the poker and struck him with that—the man struck him with his doubled fist, and held him—they pulled himout into the yard—my father called out for mercy, and for me to help him—he had not done a ha'porth to cause this—T had not heard any words before—I had been in ten minutes before my father was struck.
Cross-examined. Q. You saw the woman with a knife in her hand whenyou came in? A. Yes—they were all at dinner—I tried to make peace aswell as I could I pulled my father away—he said he expected to be killed—I did not strike the prisoners.
a quarter past one o'clock Hagen came home to his dinner—Punch wassitting on his bed—I saw the female raving her arms about, and stampingbefore Punch, saying, "Hit me;" and the man said, "Punch, if you will hither I will give you a sovereign;" and then the blows brgan; and soon after Punch made his escape out of the door, with the man before him, and femalebehind him with the poker—she gave him several blows—Mrs. Cremer, wholives next door, tried to prevent her—I do not know who struck first—Punchbled very much indeed—Mrs. Hagen had said, about eleven o'clock, that if Punch hit her, she would enter the knife into him as far as the handle—the row began first about five in the morning—there was a great deal of roughlanguage on all sides.
MARTHA JENKINS . I am the wife of Henry Jenkins, and live at 14, High-street, Vauxhall. I recollect this row—Punch was trying to make his escapeout of the door, bleeding very much; and Hagen had hold of the hair of hishead, beating him with his hand—the female rushed out with the poker, threwhim back on the ground, and while on the ground she beat him on the headwith the poker as violently as she could—my feelings were excited, and Icalled out, "Oh, you b—h, you bitter b—h, you want to murder the man! you murdering b—h, you do!"—she then went in, and shut the door, andcommenced eating her dinner—I went to the window, and said I would comeup against her; and she held up a potato, and asked me to have a piece.
Cross-examined. Q. You were determined to come up against her? A. I said that to make her leave off striking the man—I should not have comeup if I had not been compelled—I got all over blood myself.
EDWARD DIXON (police-man, L 85.) I took the prisoners into custody, and told them they were charged with assaulting and wounding Punch—thefemale said it served him right; that he had said, in the presence of her husband, that he had made a wh—of her—they went quietly—I produce thepoker.
JOHN WILSON . I am house-surgeon at Guy's Hospital. The prosecutorwas brought there—he had five wounds on the head, and several on the face—there was a great deal of hemorrhage—the blows were through the skis, and that was all—they were not dangerous—there was a very slight wound onthe ear, which I strapped up—the wounds might have been produced by thispoker—he was under my care three days, and was very faint from loss ofblood—I recommended him to stop longer.
Cross-examined. Q. Did not his nose bleed? A. I believe it did, but itwas strapped up before he came to me.
MICHAEL HAGEN. Aged 22.
MARY HAGEN. Aged 22.
GUILTY of an Assault. — Confined Two Months.
Before Mr. Baron Rolfe.
MR. CLERK conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM CAREY . I live at Dockhead, Bermondsey. Last Saturday, about five o'clock, I was going home through Little London-street—I hadhad a little to drink—a teacup was thrown at me from a window on thegroand-floor at Mrs. Connor's, which hit me on the forehead—I went up tothe window, and saw the prisoner—I asked why she did it—she jumped upon the table against the window, with a knife in her hand, and stabbed me inthe nose—I was just outside the window—I put my hand up, and receivedtwo more stabs on the back of the wrist, and one on the finger—I had knownthe prisoner for years-nothing had been said by any one before the teacup
was thrown—I had a tin in my hand that I carry my victuals in, and when Iwas stabbed it dropped from under my arm—I was given in charge forbreaking two squares of glass, but I did not—I was sober enough to recollectwhat I did and said.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Does Mrs. Calnan keep the house?A. No—she lives up stairs—I did not say before the cup came out at thewindow, "This is the half-way house; if any one has anything to say, lethim come out and say it to me"—I did not see Mrs. Calnan come down andclose the street door—I did not go to the window and say, "Your husbandis a foreman, Mrs. Feeney, and if he is a man let him come out and act theman over me"—she did not say, "My husband is no foreman," and thenthrow the cup—she threw it at me as 1 was passing, without saying anything—the top of the window was down—Mrs. Calnan did not tell me to go home, and I did not then strike her with my tin can—she was inside the house—Iwas not in the act of breaking the window when I was stabbed—I broke nowindow.
MR. CLERK. Q. Why were you given in charge? A. Because I gavethe prisoner in charge—I was not given in charge till after the prisoner.
MARGARET TOMKINS . I live at 2, Little London-street, in Mrs. Connor'shouse. On Saturday evening, about five o'clock, I was standing at the door, and saw Carey come past—a tea-cup was thrown from the window, andstruck him—he said, "Who is it? is that the foreman's wife, Mrs. Feeney?"—she said, "I am no foreman's wife;" and then 1 saw the knife come overthe top of the window, and hit Carey at the side of the nose—he put his handto his face, and then I saw the knife come again, and his hand was cut—hehad done nothing before the cup was thrown—he broke no window with thecan—he was a few yards from me when the cup was thrown—Louisa Calnanlives in the next house—Carey did not do anything to her before the cup wasthrown—he did nothing to anybody.
Cross-examined. Q. Does Carey live in the same house as you? A. No—I have been in prison twenty-one days, for breaking—windows—it was notfor hitting a man with a quart pot—Tomkins is my real name—Mays is mystepfather's name—I have bad no money from Carey—I live—with my motherand husband, he is a labourer.
ANN CONNOR (examined by MR. PAYNS.) I am the wife of Dennis Connor, who keeps this house. Two of my windows were broken by Carey—he wasrather the worse for liquor—I was not there when this cutting took place—Idid not see Carey break the windows, but he owned to it before the Magistrate, and said he would pay for them—I always found the prisoner a quiet, peace-ablewoman.
MR. CLERK. Q. Was there a crowd when you came up? A. Therefere a few people—Carey had been stabbed before that—I was sent for inconsequence.
LOUISA CALNAN (examined by MR. PAYNE). I am the wife of Timothy Calnan, and live at Mrs. Connor's—I was there when this happened, andheard Carey say, "This is a half-way house; if any one has anything to saylet him come out and say it to me"—I went and shut the door—Carey immediatelywent to the window where the prisoner was—they were both theworse for liquor—Carey said, "Your husband is a foreman; let him comeout and show his foremanship over me; if he has anything to say let himcome out and settle it"—her husband is a gauger in Mr. King's granary—hepays men, and has the power of employing me—Mrs. Feeney said her
husband was not a foreman, and then threw the cup out, but it did not strokehim—I told Carey to go home—he said he should not, and made a hit at mewith a tin box which he had in his hand—I turned round, and when I turnedback he was bleeding and pushed the can through two squares of glass—Idid not see what occasioned the bleeding.
MR. CLERK.Q. Where was you when Carey first came up? A. In myown room on the first-floor, over the room where the prisontr was—I wentdown and closed the door when I heard Carey insulting the prisoner.
GUILTY of an Assault. Aged 39.— Confined Three Months.
1612. JOSEPH HOPKINS , breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Mary Skillington, and stealing a pocket-book, 2 watches, 24 spoons and 1 soup ladle, value 23l.; 20 sovereigns, 10 half-sovereigns and 7 10l.-notes, her property; and MARGARET WARD , feloniously harbouring Hopkins, and receiving 1 of the 10l.-notes.
MR. HUDDLESTON conducted the Prosecution.
MARY SKILLINGTON . I am a widow, and live with my son, George Skillington, at 10, Spencer-place, Lambeth. On 15th April, about ten o'cloikor quarter past in the morning, I went out to market, leaving no one in thehouse; I fastened the passage door and took the key with me—the backdoors were also fastened—I returned about eleven, came in with the key atthe front door and found the house had been entered—I had left the kitchendoor latched, but not locked—it can be opened from without by lifting upthe latch—there is a very high wall between my garden and the next house, and the back door of that house was also open—I do not know whether thefront one was—I missed one gold and one silver watch, several silver spoonsfrom the kitchen, worth 12l. at least, 100l. and a pocket book, and a pursecontaining 25l. in gold and silver—they had been in a drawer, which waslocked, in the back room on the first-floor—the drawer was broken open—Ialso missed some plate from a drawer, which was broken open, in the frontroom—the other drawers had also been opened and the things thrown about—the seven 10l.-notes that were in the pocket-book I had received from myson—they had been received in part payment for a 100l.-note.
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. How many rooms are there in yourhouse? A. Eight—the back door might not have been exactly closed when I left—I cannot be sure—my son had been out of town about a week—helives with me when he is in town—he is an artist, and has his studio at home—he has no visitors—I have only one son living with me—there are no femalesin the house—I have no servant—a woman comes and cleans up thehouse every day—Mr. Jordan, a carver and gilder, lives next door to me—it is a very respectable row of houses, shops and residences—no men workon Mr. Jordan's premises.
GEORGE SKILLINGTON . I am an artist, and live with my mother. On 10th March, I changed a 100l.-note, at the Bank of a person named Adams; I received ten 10l.-notes; I paid three away, and gave seven to my mother—I saw the same 100l.-note before the Magistrate—some of my property wasalso stolen.
Cross-examined. Q. You came home that evening? A. Yes—I have abrother living at Dorking—I only know the Elephant and Castle by passingit—I have been in when passing and had a glass of ale—I have never beenin the parlour—I have not played at any game there—I have no bettingfriends or acquaintances—I have bet a buttle of wine on the races down at
Dorking—I may have bet a bottle of wine or half-a-crown in town on the races—I went to Dorking on the 4th or 5th, and was there ten days.
JOSEPH REECE ADAMS . I am a cashier, at the Bank of England. On 10th March I changed this 100l.-note, marked with the name of "George Skillington"—I gave ten 10l.-notes in change, numbered 88732 to 88741, and dated 4th Jan. 1848.
CHARLES BAWTREE . I am a clerk in the Accountant's Office of the Bankof England. I produce the 100l.-note, and also two notes, 88738 and 88741; 88738 was paid into the Bank on 26th April, with others, by the Customs House—I did not receive it myself—I have made an extract fromthe Bank books—I have not the books here—I have three other notes Nos. 88732, 88733, and 88734—I did not receive any of them myself.
GEORGE SKILLINGTON re-examined. I do not remember whether the notes I received were consecutive numbers—I received them altogether—those Ipaid away I took from the bundle haphazard—I paid away the first noteabout half an hour after I received them, to Mr. Wheeler, of Ludgate-hill—Ithink I put them in my pocket-book when I left the Bank, and when I paidthem I took one out of my pocket-book—I cannot tell whether that was thefirst one, it is so long ago—I kept my pocket-book in my side pocket—Iopened the roll of notes and took one away—I do not recollect that distinctly—I am not sure whether I had not taken one out at the Bank and placed theothers away—I paid the second note to a person at Dorking—I do not recollectwhere I took that note from—I paid all three away in March—I changedthe third one at the Holland Arms, in the Brixton-road—that might havebeen a fortnight afterwards.
HENRY WARDMAN . I am barman to Nicholas Walker, of the Royal Oakpublic-house, Pitfield-street, Hoxton. On 18th or 19th April, a little girlbrought me this 10l.-note (No. 88738)—I made ray mark on it—I put on itthe direction she gave me, "Mr. Hopkins, 2, Singleton-street, South"—shehad two bottles of wine and the change.
JOHN PHILLIPSON . I live at 60, Goswell-street. I know the prisoner, Hopkins, and have dealt with him. On 24th April last, I think it was, hebrought me this 10l.-note, (No. 88741)—I put a mark on it—he bought 7s. or 8s. worth of goods, and I gave him the change.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you put his address on it? A. Yes; 20, Spencer-street—that is the address he gave me.
WILLIAM WOODWARD (policeman, P 157.) On 5th May, from information, I went to Singleton-street, South, Hoxton, and saw Hopkins leave thathouse—I followed him, and asked whether his name was Hopkins, and ifhe had not come out of No. 2—he said, "Yes, his name was Hopkins"—Iasked him whether he had sent a little girl to change a note at Mr. Walker's, in Pitfield-street—he said he knew nothing about it—I asked whether therewas a little girl residing at No. 2, Singleton-street, about eleven or twelveyears old, dressed in black—he said there was—I asked who she was—hesaid she belonged to his landlord—I asked his landlord's name—he said, "Ward"—I asked what Mr. Ward was—he said he did not know—I toldhim he had better accompany me to the Robert-street station, which wasclose by—I left him there, and then went back to Singleton-street, and foundthe prisoner Ward talking to Timewell, another constable—I asked her wherethe little girl got the note from that was passed at Mr. Walker's—she saidshe had received it from a gentleman in the country, but she did not knowhis name or where he lived—she said she lived with Hopkins, as his wife—I
afterwards took Hopkins to Mr. Phillipson, who recognised him as the manwho changed the note, and asked Hopkins if he wished to give any accountas to where he received it—he said it was no business of mine, what he hadto say he should answer elsewhere, or words to that effect.
Cross-examined. Q. Were you dressed as a policeman? A. No; but heunderstood from the first that I was a policeman—I did not tell him thatbefore I asked him whether he would give an account of sending the little girlto Mr. "Walker's—we had searched his house before I took him to Mr. Phillipson—I found three sovereigns—I heard Ward tell Time well that she livedwith Hopkins as his wife.
WILLIAM TIMEWELL (policeman, P 236.) On 5th May I went to 2 Singleton-street south—Ward opened the door—I asked whether she knewanything of a 10l.-note which was paid at Mr. Walker's gin-shop, in Pitfield-street, by a little girl—she said, "Yes, I know all about it; it isperfectly correct; I gave it to her to get it changed it for me: I sent her fortwo bottles of gin"—I asked her how she came by it—she said a gentlemanhad given it her from the country to get it changed for him, and that he badcomplimented her with a sovereign out of the change—I took her to Robert-streetstation, and from there to Walworth station—Hopkins there said to her, "They have taken me to a shop where I paid one of the notes, and now ithas come to this; you had better tell the truth where you got the note"—as I was taking Ward to the police court, she told me that as soon as Hopkinshad ascertained that the little girl had given the correct name and address at Walker's gin-shop, he bad told her if any inquiries were made respecting it, tosay that she had received it from a gentleman in the country.
GEORGE SKILLINGTON . re-examined. I paid the first note to Mr. Wheeler, a woollen-draper, in Ludgate-street; the second I sent down to a person at Dorking—I paid it on account of a tailor there, named Knight—I believe Knight and Wheeler had something to do together in the way of trade—I havenever seen Knight at Wheeler's house—I have seen Wheeler but once.
(The prisoners received good characters.)
NOT GUILTY .
MR. MELLER conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN KILLEEN (policeman, P 309.) On 5th June, about eight o'clock atnight, I was on duty in North-street, Lock's-fields, and saw the prisoner inwoman's gown and bonnet, saying, "Where is my husband?"—a greatmob assembled, and were shouting at him—it interrupted the thoroughfare—I said, "You bad better go home"—he went home—he lives in Nelson-place, not fifty yards from there—he directly came back, dressed in the sameway, and kept saying to the crowd, "What do you want there?"—he wentin and out three times—he was drunk—I said, if he came out again I wouldtake him in charge—he rushed in, came out again in his own clothes, broughta hatchet, and said he would split my skull open; using bad expressions—his wife was in the house—she took the hatchet from him—he stooped down, seized on a brick, which was used to keep the door open, and pitched it atme—it went over my shoulder, and struck Nathaniel Turner on the forehead, who was about two yards behind me—it knocked him down—he bled profusely—I followed the prisoner into his kitchen, and took him.
NATHANIEL TURNER . I am ten years old, and live with my mother at North-street, Lock's-fields. Last Monday week I was before the prisoner'shouse, and got a blow from a brick, which cut my head—I did not see whothrew it—I have been under the doctor's hands ever since.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY of an Assault . Aged 40.— Confined Three Months.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq.
MR. ROBINSON conducted the Prosecution.
JAMES RUSSON . I am a tailor, at Uxbridge-street, Newington. On 4th June, between twelve and one o'clock in the morning, I was at the corner of Mint-street, Borough—I was surrounded by four or five people, who hustledme about very quick, and I felt hands in my pockets—the prisoner was one ofthe party—they rifled my pockets—I went down; I think I was knocked downby their feet—they unbuttoned my coat—the prisoner had hold of me—Icalled for assistance—I then felt my necktie go off—I cannot say whetherthe prisoner took it—the police came, and the men made off—the police pursued, and brought the prisoner back—I knew him, and he was taken to thestation—my hat was on the ground—I missed 10d. in copper—I at first saidit was 14s., but afterwards recollected paying my wife 12s.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. You were attacked so suddenlythat you could not see the persons? A. I felt them very plainly—theprisoner remained after the others ran away—he had hold of me by thecollar.
JOHN DELANEY (policeman, M 100.) Between twelve and one o'clockon this morning I was on duty in the Borough, and saw several persons atthe corner of the Mint—I went up, and when within a few yards of themturned my light on, and saw the prisoner holding Russon by the collar—theystruggled—the prisoner had Russon's hat in his right hand—I distinctly sawhim pull the neck-tie off with his left hand—Russon said, "I am robbed"—the prisoner then threw the the with his left, and the hat with his right hand—the that fell on the ground, and the the on Russon's shoulder—I took it, andpursued the prisoner up Mint-street, and found him in a passage, standingbehind the door—I said, "I want you"—he said, "What for?"—I said, "For robbing that man at Mint-street of his handkerchief—he said, "Ihave not robbed him; I was going to put it about his neck"—I took himback—Russon identified him.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you hear Russon say he had been robbed. A. Yes.
GUILTY . **† Aged 34.— Transported for Ten Years.
Before Mr. Justice Patteson.
There being no witness who could prove the name of the deceased, the prisonerswere
Before Mr. Recorder.
MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.
MR. JEREMIAH GILES PILCHER . I am in partnership with Mr. John Giles Pilcher and two others, as oil-merchants, in Morgan's-lane, Toolev-street-myselfand brother, Mr. John Dendy Pilcher, alone interfere with the nunagremertof the business. The prisoner was in our employment as town traveller forfive years—it was his duty to collect orders and receive money on ouraccount, and the morning after he received the money he was to bring it. whether bills, cash, or acceptances, either to myself or brother—were bothattending to the business in July last, one in town and the other out of town—it was the prisoner's duty to account to such of us as were in town—beknew that the other two partners took no active part in the concern—the prisonerwas not permitted to account to any one but myself if I was in town, ormy brother if he was in town—I was in town in July, and had charge of thebooks—my brother was out of town—we have a customer named Hood, of Commercial-road, Limehouse, (referring to the cash-book)—the prisoner hasnot accounted to me for the receipt of 50l. from Mr. Hood, nor of 5l. from Mr. Trevilliun, or of 30l. 15s. 3d. from Mr. Sharp, in a bill of 23l. 1s. 9d., and 7l. 13s. 6d. cash—he neither handed me the bill or the proceeds of it.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. I believe he has been thirteen yearsin your service? A. No, five years with us—I believe he was thirteen yearsin the service of Sir Charles Price and Co. before that—I do not know thathe bore a very high character—I should say he might have dene so—I didnot go for his character; my father did—he engaged him—there was noarrangement in writing, nor is there with any of our travellers; it was verbal—I was very likely out of town at the time—if there had been a writtenagreement I should have seen it—this cash-book is in my handwriting—theprisoner has been in the habit of accounting to me from time to time formonies, by giving me memorandums on slips of paper, containing the sumsand the names of the parties from whom he received them—those memorandumsare filed—I enter the amounts in the cash-book from those memorandums—my memory serves me as to not having received these monies, withoutreference to the c. ish-book; but, of course, I could not tell the dates withouthaving the cash-book before me—my memory serves me that 1 have not receivedthese three accounts—the prisoner has not given me any memorandumsof those sums—I have not got his memorandums of 1847 here—(they werehere sent for)—my father is not here—I received no money from the prisoner on 10th Aug.—I was in town that day—I cannot say that my brother was—there is no writing of his in the cash-book that day—my father and unclehave not ceased to have anuhing to do with the business, but they have notentered a single thing in the cash-book since my brother and I have been inthe firm, which is since 1840—they have not, to my knowledge, receivedmoney from the prisoner and other clerks, and told me to make the entriesin the cash-book—I never saw them take money from the prisoner—theymight have done so, I would not sav they have not—they are not constantlyat the warehouse—Mr. John Pilcher, my uncle, never gets there before half-past
ten or eleven—he is there nearly every day—he comes when he likes, stops for aa bour, and goes when he likes, and ray father also—I stop late, and take a more active part in the business—we had security from the prisonerfrom the Guarantee Society—whatever was paid upon that security waspaid out of the prisoner's salary—he found the security, and of course hepaid for it—he left our service in Dec, 1847—I went to him after that toask him what amounts he had taken—I saw him at his own house—if at thattime the prisoner had entered into an arrangement to settle any amounts hebad taken, I should not have accepted it—I did not go for that purpose, Iswear that—I should not have thought of doing anything of the sort—withoutconsulting with my partners—I did not go there for the express purpose ofsettling the account between myself and the prisoner—I have not sent for theprisoner and begged of him to come and settle the accounts with me—weseat for him to know the parties he had taken the money from, in Order thatwe might give them credit for it in the ledger—I do not know whether theprisoner's father is living—I never suggested to the prisoner that some party, on his behalf, should either pay the moneys, or give me security for them—Iwent once or twice to the prisoner'—I do not think I sent more than onemessage to him after Jan.—my partners did not go to him—this is theonly cash-book we have—there is a line for ready money, a line for town, and a line for country—the prisoner has not been compelled to correctaccounts which he has handed over to me, and which I have omitted to enterproperly—I swear that nothing of that sort has occurred—I have never forgottento post cash which the prisoner has given me, nor has he called myattention to it, and then posted it—I have always entered themoney in the cash-hook as it was received—I know the name of Robertson, of Great Dover-road—I do not remember anything about a sum of 13l. which the prisonersaid he had paid to my father—this is the first I have beard of it—the prisoner never alleged that to me—I most decidedly deny that the prisonerhas on more than one occasion called my attention to omissions which I have made in posting the cash he has paid me.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. When you saw the prisoner on the subject of thesepayments, and wished to know how much he had taken, did he ever pretendto you that he had paid those sums of 50l., 5l., or 30l., to anybody onaccount of the firm? A. No—he acknowledged at the time to taking thatmoney, and a great many other amounts—when I asked him, he at once said, "Yes;" and not only that, but be put it down on a piece of paper—this is it—(produced)—I saw the prisoner write it, when I and Mr. Maule went tohim to ask him the amounts he had taken; but there were many others afterwards—there is here the sum of 50l. from Mr. Hood, but neither of the othersums in this indictment—he gave me this as an account of what he had taken—at the time he gave me this paper we told him that there were some otheramounts—he then charged his memory, added them up, and said he believed, to the best of his knowledge, they were all the moneys he had taken and notpaid over—it amounts altogether to 158l.—since that I have found out thatthere are other sums—he wrote this paper at ray request.
MR. JOHN DENDY PILCHER . I am the brother of the last witness. Theprisoner never accounted to me for 50l., as received from Mr. Hood, nor 5l. from Mr. Trevillian, or 30l. 15s. 2d. from Mr. Sharp in July or Aug.—theprisoner had authority to pay money to myself and brother, and also to myfather and uncle, if we were not present—he had authority to pay money tothem at all times, if we were out of town; but one or the other of us were intown at that time—we are the responsible parties.
Cross-examined. Q. Then he had at all times authority to pay to yourfather and uncle? A. Yes; whether we were in town or not, but we twoonly received the moneys and accounted for it in this cash-book—we mighthave received from my father and uncle money paid to them during that time, it is just possible—we only kept one traveller—no other person collectedmoney—the prisoner sometimes paid in, considerable sums day—after day they were generally in small amounts—I should say he never paid in a dozenamounts at one time, between half a dozen and a dozen; they were differentaccounts from different customers, which he had collected during the day—Ido not remember his paying me 20l. on account of Mr. Sharp's bill—I should I never received 20l.—I can only tell by reference to the cash-book—Ishould say I never received anything from him on account of that bill—if it isnot in this cash-book I will swear I never received it (referring to the cash-book)—in July and Aug. I was not at home—I have not got the ledger here.
JOHN GEORGE SHARP . I am a glass-cutter, at 21, Bermondsey New-road. I am a customer of Messrs. Pilchers—I paid to the prisoner a bill for 23l. 1s. 9d., and 7l. 13s. 6d. in cash, on their account—I rather think it wasin Aug., but I cannot exactly recollect—this is the bill I gave him (prodxti)—it is dated 21st July at two months—it was paid at maturity—here is thereceipt, with the prisoner's signature to it.
Cross-examined. Q. You have no recollection when it was paid? A. No; but to the best of my recollection, it had about five weeks to run when Ipaid it—the travellers never ask me for money, but when they call I give itthem, and that is the reason why I take no particular notice about the dates.
CHARLES NEVILLE . I live at 23, Brunswick-street, Dover-road. Theacceptance to this bill is mine—I had a note of its being due left at my house, and I called on the prisoner, who then lived in the same street, and paid himthe money, 23l. 1s. 9d., on the day it was due, 24th Sept, and he gave methe bill—this is the receipt which in my presence he endorsed on the bill—Ipaid him part in notes and part in gold.
MR. PARRY to MR. JOHN D. PILCHER. Q. Will you turn to your cash-bookat 25th Sept., 1847, and see if you or your brother have not actuallyreceived 20l. upon this bill which you charge the prisoner with embezzling?A. I can explain that—we have 20l., but the prisoner received that billbefore, and he ought then to have brought it to us, and not have brought the 20l.—he had no authority to use it himself, he should have brought it to usthe same as cash—of the the 30l. 15s. 6d. paid to the prisoner, we havereceived 20l. on account, but it is not specified in this entry that it was onaccount of the bill—we were not aware that a bill was taken—I never sawthe bill until I was at the Police-court—the 20l. was paid to us as if it hadbeen received from Mr. Sharp the day before, instead of which the prisonerhad received the bill five weeks before.
GEORGE SULLY HOOD . I am a painter, in Commercial road, Limehouse, and am a customer of Messrs. Pilchers. On 2nd July last I paid the prisoner 50l. on their account—I have the account here—(reads—"July 2nd bycash 50l. J. Pickering")—that is what the prisoner wrote on my making thatpayment.
of J. G. Sharp—the 50l. of Mr. Hood ought to have been—100l—Mr. Hoodpaid the prisoner 100l., and he only paid us 50l.
MR. HOOD re-examined. I paid the prisoner another 50l. on 2nd July—Inever paid him less than 50l.—I have paid him many 50l.—I paid himanother 50l. on 24th Sept. I believe, but I cannot tell the date—it was notafter that.
MR. J. G. PILCHER re-examined. The 50l. paid on 2nd July was neverreceived by us—the 50l. paid in Sept. could not be intended as the 50l. received in July, because we always enter the money the day we receive it—the 50l. paid in July is not in the books—the prisoner was discharged in Dec. last.
JURY. Q. Why was not this prosecution undertaken before? A. Theprisoner knew we were very reluctant to—prosecute at all, but we were compelledto do so by the Guarantee Society.
Prisoner. Q. Did not I apply to you for a character in March, for Blundell and Co., of Hull? A. And we were never more surprised—myfather saw Mr. Blundell, and told him you had been discharged forembezzlement.
GUILTY . Aged 40.— Confined One Year .
(There was another indictment against the prisoner.)
MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the Prosecution.
SARAH SAYER . I was ten years old last Feb., and live with my father andmother. One Friday, between twelve and one o'clock in the day, I was sentby my father to take home some paper he had sold, and in crossing a fieldnear Peckham Rye, a number of boys came up to me—Marshall was withthem—one of them, named Tilbrook, pulled up my petticoats and threw medown—another boy told him to let me be, and then they left me—I walkedon for two or three minutes—Wicks then came up to me and said, "I mean to—you"—he threw me down and threw me over a ditch, pulled up myclothes, and pinched me, and knelt upon me—I hallooed—he told me to holdmy tongue, or he would cut my head off; and said, if I would let him do—it, hewould give me a bird's-nest which he had in his band—I kept hallooing—heundid his clothes and called Marshall to hold my mouth and hands—Marshall came up and held my mouth and hands—as Wicks was pullingup my petticoats, he saw my pocket—he turned me round, felt inmy pocket, and got my purse out—I saw it in his hand—there was 2s. and 1 1/4 d. in it, a half-farthing, and a new copper penny with a bit of silver init—Marshall could see what he did—they ran away together—I got up andwent straight across the field—I went to a policeman, and told him what hadhappened—I saw Wicks again in about a fortnight at the station—I am surehe is the boy, and I am sure of Marshall too.
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. The policeman took you to seehim? A. Yes—there was no other boy with him—the policeman told me Iwas going to see if it was the boy that had thrown me down and robbed me—I had never seen either of the boys before—I had seen Wicks before in the Walworth-road—I did not recollect him when I saw him in the field, but itcame to my mind afterwards.
HENRY SAYER . I am a stationer, at Peckham Rye. On 26th May Isent my child on an errand with some paper—between twelve and one o'clock alittle girl came to my shop, and gave me information—I went, in consequence,
round by East Dulwich with a view of meeting the boys, but I did not—Imet my daughter a little way from Mr. Noble's field, crying very much is agreat perspiration, and very frightened—that was after the policeman hadseen her—she told me what had happened, and took me to the spot—thegrass was all flattened down, and among the grass I found a small bunch ofsteel beads belonging to her purse, which she recognized.
WILLIAM WALLIDGE (policeman, P 85.) The child came up to me near thefield crying, made a complaint, and described the boy that had done this, isconsequence of which I looked after Wicks, but could not find him for a fort-night—I had generally seen him about the neighbourhood before that—I atlast found him playing in a street in Camberwell—I had made inquiries forhim of boys and persons in the neighbourhood—I inquired for him where helived—I did not go to his father's house, but one of our constables did—Itook Marshall the same day—I did not tell him what I took him for—he saidnothing to me—a gentleman had sent a man to stop him for destroyingmangel-wurtzell in the field, but he did not give him into custody—I happenedto be present, and I said in Marshall's presence that I wanted a boynamed Wicks, and I should not let him go until I had been to see the littlegirl, as I had had information from her that she had been robbed, and threeboys had pone away, and I thought he might probably be one—hesaid he knew nothing about it—I took him to the station, fetched the little girl, andshe identified him—I afterwards took the little girl to identify Wicks, whenshe pointed him out he said he did not have the purse, he knew nothingabout it—I had told him I took him for taking the little girl's purse—hesaid nothing else—he said afterwards before the Magistrate that a boy named Strutt had done it.
COURT. Q. Did he not say that at the station? A. No (looking at hisdeposition)—this is my writing—I gave that evidence before the Magistrate—Wicks said nothing about Strutt at the station—it is put down here, "Whenhe got to the station-house he said that Strutt had done it"—my depositionwas read over to me before I signed it—I never said that he said anything atthe station, no more than that he did not have the purse—I am not able toread this—I put my name to it—I have not been drinking this irorning—Iam not aware that I have said anything untrue, either here or before the Magistrate—I know Wicks's father—I have not known him more than amonth—I have seen him six or seven times about this—I have since heardthat Wicks was not away from home at all during that fortnight—those wordswere made use of before the Magistrate, but I understood the gentleman toask about when I took him first of all—he said at the station-house that theboy Strutt wns the one that had the purse—it is true that he said at thestation that it was a boy named Strutt that bad done it.
(The prisoners received good characters.)
WICKS— GUILTY . Aged 13.
MARSHALL— GUILTY . Aged 13.
Confined Three Months.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq.
WILLIAM GIBBS (policeman, F 77.) On 12th June, about nine o'clockat night, I saw the prisoners in the fair field, Wandsworth—I watched then, and saw Perkins take this handkerchief out of a young man's pocket—morrisstood by him—I took hold of them—they struggled very hard—Perkinsdropped the handkerchief—I picked it up—I could not find the owner.
Morris' Defence. I met Perkins in the fair, but know nothing of thehandkerchief. MORRIS— NOT GUILTY . PERKINS— GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Six Months.
ELIZABETH SLARK . I am the wife of Thomas Slark, a beer seller, of 96, London-road. On 2nd June, about eight o'clock, I was coming into the shopfrom the parlour, and found the prisoner lying across the counter with hishand in the till, which I had left safe not half a minute before—I laid hold ofhis arm—his hand was shut half way out of the till, with halfpence in it—itdid not quite inclose them—he got his hand away, and put it into his pocket—he got near the door, took some halfpence out of his pocket, and said he hadnot robbed the till, but if I liked to be satisfied with those few halfpence bewould call again and settle it with the landlord—a lodger pushed him in, and I gave him in charge—I am sure five or sixpence were taken from the till—this is one halfpenny which was there—it has a hole in it—I bad examinedit a few minutes before.
Prisoner's Defence. I had the halfpenny twenty-four hours before; Iwent to the house for half a pint of beer; nobody came; I had 5 1/2 d. in myhand, counting it, as I had just got change opposite; I resisted, thinking shewanted to steal my money; I could have escaped if I liked.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Transported for Seven Years.
SAMUEL TRIGGS . I am clerk to John Vickers, wine-merchant, of Trinity-square, Tower-hill; he has one partner. On 26th April, about two o'clock, I was in Mr. Sinclair's coffee-room, and saw the prisoner, whom I knew as acommission-agent to Mr. Vickers—I said I had a warrant for Mr. Sinclair—he said he was going to see him, and he would take it—it was Mr. Vickers'property—I gave it to the prisoner—this is it (produced)—in about half-an-hourhe went into Mr. Sinclair's sitting-room—he came back—I said nothingabout the warrant—I thought he had delivered it.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. How much did the prisonerpay you? A. About 17l. 16s. 3d., on Mr. Sinclair's account, for a hogsheadof brandy prior to this.
DUNCAN SINCLAIR . I keep the Scotch stores, Oxford-street. I have boughtseveral things of the prisoner, on Mr. Vickers' account—about 22nd Aprilhe called on me, and I bought a hogshead of him at 6s. 3d., which 1 neverreceived the warrant for—I understood it to be Mr. Vickers'—I afterwardspaid him on the day I was to receive the warrant—I did not receive adock warrant from him—he said nothing about one.
Cross-examined. Q. Have you had the brandy? A. No—I cannot getit without the warrant—it was to have been forwarded to me—I did notwant to get rid of the purchase—the warrant was not endorsed—nobodycould get the brandy without forging my name—the warrant was not mentioned, because they are generally forwarded by post.
WILLIAM JENKINS . I keep the Crown, in Seven Dials. On 23rd May, between twelve and one o'clock, the prisoner came, and said he had comefrom Mr. Sinclair, who had returned him this warrant, which he bad sold him
the month before, and that it was his own property, that he had paid Messrs. Vickers for it—he wanted the money, and if I would buy it he would beobliged to me, he would let me have it for 5s. the gallon—I said I did notwant it—on the next Friday, the 26th, he came again, showed me thiswarrant, and asked me if I would buy it—I said, no, it did not suit mytrade—he asked if I would lend him 10l., and he would leave it with me, and if in ten days 1 did not want to buy it, he would return me the money, or sell it me ac cost price—I gave him 10l., and he left it with me.
Cross-examined. Q. Why did you take the warrant? A. As a sort ofsecurity—I should probably have lent it him without, if he had asked me—Ihave purchased of Messrs. Vickers before—the prisoner had brought me asample of brandy, which this warrant was represented to apply to—I purchaseda puncheon of rum of him—I think it was returned—I sent thewarrant back—I always found him honest.
JOHN VICKERS . I am in partnership with Mr. Plaistead, of Trinity-square—the prisoner entered our service about four years ago, and was so in it 22nd April last, but for the collection of orders only—he had nothing todo with this warrant—it was entrusted to Mr. Triggs—he had given usno notice to quit—he was about to enter into business, but was still to remain with us.
NOT GUILTY .
NOT GUILTY .
JULIA MASSEY . I am the wife of Edward Massey, of Maidenhead-court, Wheeler-street, Spitalfields. I was present at West Hackney Church, fouryears ago, when the prisoner was married to Catherine Butt—I have seenher since—she is here now.
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN Q. Did you know her before hermarriage? A. Yes, several years—I do not know that she had a familybefore marriage—they lived together till her confinement—he then left her, and eighteen months after that she went to live with another man, and hashad two children by him—they are not alive.
Cross-examined. Q. He treated you kindly? A. Yes—I was an unfortunategirl—he took me home to bis uncle's house, and I lived with himthree nights—his uncle, Mr. Clay, save him in charge.
THOMAS WATKINS (policeman, M 18.) I produce two certificates—I havecompared them with the parish books, they agree—(These were certificates ofthe marriage of Abner George Tovee and Catherine Butt, on Avg. 6th, 1843, at West Hackney Church; and of the marriaae of Abner George Totes and Ann Webb, at St. John's Church, Surrey, on Feb. 21, 1848.)
GUILTY. Aged 23.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury. — Confined Three Months.
ELIZABETH BAKER . I am servant to Mr. Walmsley, of Loughborough-road, Brixton. I was cleaning the front windows on Thursday, 20th April, abouthalf-past twelve o'clock—I saw the two prisoners and another person against Mrs. Stevenson's house, opposite ours—Lloyd got in at Mrs. Stevenson'swindow—Williams was by the gate, five or six yards off—Lloyd had a kindof pocket-book in his hand—he came out again in three or four minutes withsomething in a handkerchief in his hand—the three then went away togetherup Millbrook-row—I went across, and told what I had seen.
Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. What is the width of this road?A. It is four times the width of this Court—I had never seen either of thepersons before, but I am sure of the prisoners.
ANN MULHOLLAND . I am servant to Mrs. Eliza Stevenson—she is awidow, and lives in Loughborough-road. At half-past twelve o'clock on 20th April, I was in the back kitchen—I heard a noise in the front kitchen—Iwent in in about two minutes and found a birdcage, which I had hung inthe centre of the window about ten minutes before, had been moved, and puton the table—the window was open—it had not been quite shut down before I missed a pair of sugar-tongs, a coffee-pot, tea-pot, and three silver tea-spoons—they had been en the dresser opposite the window—from what Baker told me I went out, and met an officer, and saw some persons running, but I only saw their backs, and do not know who they were—in the evening, this cream jug was brought in—it is one of the things taken—I also knowthis tea-pot and coffee-pot, spoons, and tongs, to be Mrs. Stevenson's—I sawthem in the house about half-an-hour after I had missed them—they were onthe dresser, but they had clay on them, which they had not before—I saw thespoon and tongs on the Thursday afterwards, when Turton brought them—on the day before the robbery I had seen both the prisoners—Lloyd had apocket-book in his hand, and came and offered needles for sale, and after hewent, Williams came and offered side-combs for sale.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. They did not come together?A. No; there was not above five minutes between them.
GEORGE BANNOCK (policeman, P 330.) On Thursday I was with anofficer named Needham in a butcher's cart, and saw the prisoners together in Acre-lane, about a quarter or twenty minutes past twelve o'clock—they were onthe run—Needham was in uniform, I was not—when the prisoners saw us getout of the cart, they took two ways—Needham took Williams—I went after Lloyd, chased him three-quarters of a mile, and took him to the station—Ifound on him Is. 6d., and a silk handkerchief—Mrs. Stevenson's is about amile from where I saw the prisoners—the house is in the parish of Lambeth.
EDWARD TURTON . I am gardener to Mr. West. On that Thursday, betweentwelve and one o'clock, I was at dinner, I heard a cry of "Stop thief"—I ranout, and saw Williams—I went to stop him—he struck me a blow on thehead, took out a knife, and swore he would stab me if I went to take him—he went on—I followed him till the policemen came up in the butcher's cart, and they were taken.
(Edward Barrett, a plane-maker; Charles Leader, a plane-maker; Joseph
Orme, sen., and Joseph Orme, jun., plane makers, gave Williams a goodcharacter.)
LLOYD— GUILTY . Aged 19.
WILLIAMS— GUILTY . Aged 21.
Transported for Seven Years.
GUILTY . Aged 54.— Confined Four Months.
Before Mr. Common Sergeant.
GEORGE BUCKNALL PICKEN . I am a linen-draper at Walworth. The prisonerwas in my employ six weeks—I was about to discharge him—on 13th May, I was told some gloves were at the water-closet—I went there at sixo'clock in the evening, and found them, and a book also—I had the policemanto watch—the book and gloves which he found are mine.
Prisoner. Q. Do not you know that I was to read your books? A. Yes, any books that were about, but this was in a room to which you had noaccess—it was in a private house not connected with the young men's houseat all—this other book was taken from the same room—I can swear to thegloves from a particular mark on them—I bought them under the price fromthat circumstance.
Cross-examined by MA. ROBINSON. Q. Were they in the water-closet?A. On the top of it—you had to get on a step to get them—the prisoner saidhe picked them up in the yard, and they were perfectly clean when they werefound—I bought them in a lot.
GEORGE BOATE (policeman, P 312.) I concealed myself to watch the placewhere this book was—I saw the prisoner take it, and the gloves, from thewater-closet—he went up stairs—I followed him, and before he got to thebed-room I caught him, and asked what he was going to do with the book—he said "Going to read it"—I asked what he intended doing with the gloves—he said he found them on the dung—heap, in the farm-yard—he was veryviolent; he pulled out a knife, and attempted to open the blade of it.
Prisoner. Q. Did I take out a knife or some letters? A. You took outthe knife with the letters.
Prisoner's Defence. They were letters from a young lady; I gave you heraddress; I took this book to read; I picked up the gloves and placed thenon the top of the water-closet; I saw no mark on them; on the Saturdaybefore, Mr. Picken"s father and I had some words, and he grossly insultedme; I told Mr. Picken I would leave; he told me to wait till he was suited; on the Wednesday I asked him if he was suited; he said no, but he had aperson in view; on Thursday I asked him acain; he told me to stop till Friday.
NOT GUILTY .
Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. How do you know it? A. Becauseit is marked "J. P."—I bought it at Ainger's, in the Commercial-road
—I can swear to the marking of it—I have had no quarrel with the prisoner—my handkerchief was not dropped—I asked the prisoner, and each partyseparately, if they had seen it, and they all denied it—I have seen his bagopen when he wanted things out of it—I very often went into his room to askif he was coming down—I cannot say how often in a week I went in—I didnot always see his bag when I went in; I did not always look that way—Ivery often did look—I always saw it locked when I looked.
NOT GUILTY .
1627. ELIZABETH ELLIOTT , stealing 1 watch, and part of a guard, value 8l. 1s.; the goods of Frederick Bezer, from his person; and CHARLES PHILLIPS , feloniously receiving the same; having been before convicted.
MR. STEELE conducted the Prosecution.
FREDERICK BEZER . I live in Lant-street. On the morning of 25th May I was by the Elephant and Castle about one o'clock, Elliott came up, caughthold of me, and addressed me in some way, I think requesting me to go homewith her—I refused, and left her—I missed my watch, which I bad safe aqnarter of an hour before—it had been loose in my waistcoat-pocket, and hada hair-guard to it—the guard was cut—I had not been in any crowd from thetime I last saw it—Elliott was only a few moments with me; she hadhad her hands round me—I had a suspicion, and felt for my watch immediatelyshe left me—I ran after her, and some man came behind me and pinioned medown, so that I could not proceed—I do not know who it was—I thought Elliott ran towards the Wahvorth-road—I turned back, and a constable cameup and asked if I had lost my watch—I said yes—he asked me the descriptionof the woman, and immediately pursued her—I bad observed Elliott'sdress when she spoke to me; she had on a light shawl, a black satin dress, and I think a light bonnet—on Saturday morning, 27th May, I went to the Flying Horse—the prisoner Phillips came in while 1 was there—he said tome, "Are you willing to compromise the matter if I give you your pro-perty?"—I said, "I should like to see my property"—he went out of theroom, and came in with a paper parcel—I asked him if he would be kindenough to open the parcel, which he did—he said, "There is your watch"—I told ray friend who was with me, whom I took for a witness, to look at it—he said, "You had better take it up and look at it," and he went for anofficer—Phillips ran out—I ran and collared him—I said to the officer, "Igive this person in custody for having my property in his possession"—I canswear Elliott is the person who addressed me at the Elephant and Castle—the same person that addressed me accompanied me—a party. came up a shorttime before, but she did not come near enough to take the watch.
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. Where were you coming from?A. From Clapham-common—I had been to see a person returning from theraces—I had not been dining or supping there; I had only two glasses of aletoe whole evening—I had spoken to one woman two or three hundred yardsbefore I got to the Elephant and Castle—I do not know that she asked meto come home—she walked by my side; I had conversation with her—shesaid she was sick of her life; that she had been used to hard work, and, ifshe could get it she would do it—all the loose money I had in coppers Igave her; then Elliott came up, and asked me to come home—I saw her
again the same night, in custody of an officer, and identified her—I went tothe station-house next morning, to proceed on the charge—I was not shownany other woman—I am sure I pointed out no other woman—when Elliottcame up to me she had a woman with her, but that woman went away, andwhen I saw another person I said, "I think you are the person who was withthe prisoner."
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. You went to the public-house onthe Saturday expecting to receive your watch? A. Yes—Elliott was remanded, and on Friday evening a woman called on me with reference to thewatch—she made an appointment with me—I was to see her at 15, Redcross-street, Walworth—I went there, and saw a man who represented himself tobe an assistant to the solicitor to the prisoner, engaged at the Court for Elliott—I made an appointment with him respecting getting back the watch—it was in consequence of the negotiation with that person that I went tothe public-house on the Saturday morning—my friend was there, and theperson I had seen on the previous evening—I did not know what Phillipswent out for—by his asking me that question, I anticipated he was going forthe watch, of course—I went there for the purpose of getting it—Phillips didnot handle it at all—I did not intend to compromise the matter, and as aproof of that, when the party came to me on the Friday evening I went tothe police-court and told the inspector—I have not said that the man whocaught hold of me was not Phillips—I do not know who it was—I nevercaught sight of him—my watch was worth about eight guineas.
CAROLINE MACK . I am a widow, and live at Church-passage. I haveknown Elliott the last six weeks—I know nothing wrong of her—on Wednesdaynight, 24th May, she came to my house about half-past eleven o'clockshe remained there about a quarter of an hour—I said, "What is thematter"—she said her husband had been ill using her—I said, "Shall I gohome with you"—she said, "Yes, if you like; I will go if you come homewith me"—she put on her bonnet and was going home,—when she was madea prisoner and taken to the station—that was about twelve.
JOHN GLAYSHER . I live in Dover-road. I—went with Bezer to the Flying Horse on the Saturday—I was present when Phillips came in—he said, "Areyou now willing to compromise the affair if I give you your property"—Bezer said, "Let me see my property"—Phillips went out, came in shortlyafterwards, and laid a parcel on the table—I saw it opened—this watch wasin it—my friend said to me, "Look at the watch"—I took it up and looked, and said, "You had better look at it; you know most about it"—I ran outfor a constable—Phillips ran away—the constable ran and took him andhandcuffed him.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. He had not the watch when hewent out? A. Not that I saw—I knew this was a compromise, and it passedthrough my hands in the progress.
ALEXANDER BLOSS (policeman, P 198.) On the morning of 25th May I was on duty in the New Kent-road, at a little before one o'clock; in consequenceof information from Bezer, I took Elliott into custody in Church-passage, Newington-road—she was running fast—a person came out of placeand was putting on her bonnet, and another person was adjusting a blue handkerchief—Elliott appeared as if she had been running and was out of breath—I detained her, and charged her with stealing the watch—she said she knew
nothing about it—I asked her where she got that handkerchief from—she said, "I have worn it all the evening"—it was a blue cotton handkerchief and a darkbonnet she was pulling on—this was not more than ten minutes after theprosecutor had been robbed—I made the best of my way after her.
ROBERT FENNING (policeman, L 181.) I was with Bloss when he took Elliott—the prosecutor identified her—I heard her say she had worn thehandkerchief all the evening—it was a blue cotton one with white spots—Igot this shawl from Mack—the prosecutor described where he had beenrobbed—I found this bit of a guard with a snap attached to it there.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Did you tell him he was chargedwith having the watch in his possession? A. Yes—he said "What is themeaning of all this"—he said at the station that he must have been a d—fool to have had anything to do with it.
CAROLINE MACK re-examined. This shawl was found on a box at myhouse—it is not Mrs. Elliott's shawl, it is not mine, nor my daughter's—Elliott's sister came the same day from Birmingham—this shawl was foundafter Elliott was taken from my house—it is her sister's.
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. Who were at your house thatday? A. Three persons—my brother and sister, and Mrs. Elliott—Elliotthad not this shawl on when she came—I never saw her wear such, a one—shehad a bonnet on, but she left it off—that was at half-past eleven.
ELLIOTT— GUILTY [Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor. See original trial image.] . Aged 24; PHILLIPS— GUILTY . Aged 33:—Elliott recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor—both received good characters.— Confined One Year .
JAMES FROST (policeman, L 59.) On 31st May, the prisoner producedthese instruments at Mr. Jones'—I went up to him—he took them up andran out—I took him—he said a gentleman gave him them for his wages.
Prisoner's Defence. A gentleman gave me the instruments in an hotel in Bond-street.
GUILTY . Aged 31.— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY . Aged 26.— Transported for Seven Years.
MARGARET DOYLE . I am fifteen years old; I live with my father John Doyle. On 7th June, between nine and ten o'clock, I was at a fair in Acrelane, Brixton—I felt a tug at my pocket, and found the prisoner's handcoming out of it, and missed a shilling—I told my mother, she caught holdof him immediately—he wanted to run away, but the officer caught him-there were a good many people about.
Prisoner. I was a yard from her; there was a man between me and her; directly she turned, he went away; I never had my hand in her pocket.
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Seven Years.
GUILTY. Aged 31.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor. — Confined Four Months.
MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the Prosecution.
GEORGE THOMAS STANSALL . I am in the employ of Messrs. Chaplin and Home, railway carriers, at New-cross. On 9th May a parcel, addressed"Mr. Warner, Bishops' Waltbam, Hants." came into my charge from the Brighton train—it would go by the South-western Railway—this is thepaper—(produced)—I sent it in the usual way—it was brought back, supposing it to be a dummy, that is, a parcel made up, to obtain the chargeson it—I was absent, but found it when I returned—on opening it there wasa silver watch, about the size of a penny, in a small wash-leather pocket, anote stating its value, and some hay—I kept it till the morning of the 11th—I then called the prisoner and said, as he would have to go to London, hemust endeavour to get it forwarded to its destination—I opened it, to showhim that it contained a watch, fastened it up with string, and wrote on it"A watch, with care," and delivered it to him to take to any of Chaplin and Home's offices in the city—he would have to bring back 9d. for conveyanceand delivery in London—he left about ten o'clock—I saw him again nextmorning—he said he had not got rid of the watch in the City, but that he hadseen Mr. Home, who directed him to take it to the South-western Terminus—he paid me 9d.—next day the parcel was brought back by the officer.
Prisoner. Q. You told me not to deliver it at any of the offices unlessthey consented to open it? A. I said you were not to give it up withoutsatisfying them that it did contain a watch, because it had been opened.
JOHN WILLIAM HAYCOCK . I am clerk to Messrs. Chaplin, of Hambro'-wharf. The prisoner came there between two and three o'clock, and saw Mr. Horne in my presence—he produced a parcel like this, and said he wasdesired to forward it to its destination through the City offices; that he hadbeen to the Swan with Two Necks, and offered to show them it contained a
watch, but from its appearance they refused to have anything to do with it—Mr. Home said, "Where is the parcel?"—he pulled it out of his pocket—Mr. Home said, from its extreme lightness no one would suppose it confineda watch, and said he had better take it to the South-western Railway—it was not opened—I expressed my surprise at its lightness, but did notfeel it.
WILLIAM NORTON . I am employed at the South-western Railway. About six o'clock, or about twenty-five minutes past, the prisoner came tothe parcel-office, and said, "I have got a parcel to go to Botley"—I took it, gave it to Nice, and gave the prisoner 9d., which he required—I did not takeparticular notice of it—there was writing on it—Baker, the guard, was there—I did not see Embling—Nice said, "A watch, with care," holding it upto his ear—the prisoner said, "You will not hear it tick"—Nice handed it tome, and said, "I do not think there is a watch in this"—I looked at it, pressedit, and said, "I do not think there is; you had better leave it till Mr. Embling, the clerk, comes"—it remained there—I left the room about threeminutes to attend on the train which was just starting, leaving the parcel onthe desk—Nice and Baker were there—when I returned, I met Baker comingout—I went in—Nice was still there, with, the parcel by his side—I do notthink it had been touched—the head porter proposed opening it—it wasopened in my presence about half-an-hour afterwards, and it contained nowatch—it had not been out of my sight except those two or three minutes.
Prisoner. Q. How long was it there? A. About an hour—Baker wasnot going by that train—when I met him he had the bills of the train—Nicewas not left alone with the parcel more than two minutes—I believe this istie original paper—it would take me five minutes to undo the parcel andtake the watch out.
COURT. Q. After Nice had been alone with the parcel for two minutesdid he draw any one's attention to it? A. Yes, mine.
ROBERT NICE . I am principal porter at the Nine Elms Station. Whenthis parcel was brought I was booking up the train out, as the clerk was goneto his tea—the prisoner gave it to Norton, who gave it to me, and asked meto sign the prisoner's book—"A watch, with care," was written on it—I putit to my ear—the prisoner said, "You will not hear it tick"—I signed hisbook, seeing it headed, "Brighton Railway Company"—I laid the parcel byme inside the desk—Norton went to the train with some parcels, leaving Baker with me—I collected Baker's parcels together—he signed the guard'sbook and went out—Norton returned directly—I took the parcel up to enterit, looked at it, said something to Norton about it, and handed it to him—weboth felt it—I laid it on the desk and said, "Leave it till Mr. Emblingcomes'—I then asked him to open it, as I was doubtful of it—he did so—itonly contained hay—I had never lost sight of it from the time the prisonerbrought it—no one could have opened it.
Prisoner. Q. How long was it inside the desk? A. Five or ten minutes-—I was not alone two minutes—this is the original paper, but it was moreclosely packed.
ABRAHAM BAKER . I was at the station—Norton handed the parcel to-Nice, who signed the prisoner's book—I saw money pass—Nice placed it tohis ear—the prisoner said, "You won't hear it tick"—Norton left thestation—I left the prisoner there, and the parcel on the desk.
RICHARD EMBLING . I am chief clerk at the Nine Elms Station. Watkinsand Nice directed my attention to the parcel—I felt it—Nice asked me toopen it—I (I did so—there was nothing but hay. in it—it was about half-past
seven o'clock, at the time the parcels would be called over to be put on theway-bill.
THOMAS BENT (policeman, V 95.) I took the prisoner—I told him thecharge—he said if I took him I should do it on my own responsibility—hesaid, "The watch was there when I had it, and I know it was there when Idelivered it at the station."
Prisoner. Q. What did you say to me when you came to the station? A. I asked you if you brought a parcel to the Nine Elms Station—you said "Yes"—I showed it you—you said it was the same—I said there waanothing in it—you said, "It was never out of my possession from the tine Ihad it from Mr. Stansall till I delived it at Nine Elms"—you said, "Iwould rather you should go and search my house"—I said I bad no objection—I afterwards went, but found no watch—I inquired for it at severalpawnbrokers, also at the Swan with Two Necks—they said there thev wouldnot have anything to do with it, and that you wanted to satisfy them thatthe watch was in it—you went with me to Vauxhall.
Prisoner's Defence. It was a small silver watch; it weighed nothing; Norton said before the Magistrate he was absent three minutes.
The prisoner called
JOHN STONE . I delivered this parcel to the book-keeper—he felt it, saidit was merely a watch, and would not take it in—I took it to Mr. Hudson, at New Cross, who opened it, did it up again, and gave it to Stansall.
----UNDERDOWN. I received the parcel from Stone on Tuesday, and paid him 9d.—I felt it, and thought it was a dummy, gave it him backagain, and received the money back.
----LANGRIDGE. The prisoner brought a parcel with "A watch"written on it to the Swan with Two Necks—I refused it, as we never takeparcels with the value marked on them, because we risk being made responsible—he said that 1 could satisfy myself there was a watch in it.
GUILTY .— Confined One Year .
1633. ROBERT RICHARDSON , stealing 1 clock and 1 knife, value 16s.; the goods of Henry Thomas: and 5 planes, 6 chisels, and othertools, value 1l. 17s. 6d.; the goods of Samuel Henry Thomas; having beenbefore convicted; to which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Seven Years.
EDMUND JOHN ONYON . I am a waterproof dubbing manufacturer, at Brixton. The prisoner and his brother were in my service. I sent tieprisoner on 1 lth May to remove some planks and other things from a little factory—he had the key of it—he took his brother with him—he did not bringthis head of a destructive still—(produced)—it is one of the things I missed.
FRANCES HYMAN . I am the wife of Daniel Hyman, a marine-store dealer. On 11th May the prisoner and another person came in a van—the prisonerstood by the van—the other came and asked if I bought old iron—I said)"Who are you removing for?"—he said, "For a water-proof manufacturerwho said we migh: have this for beer money"—I bought it for 2s.—there wasabout three-quarters of a cwt. of it—this article was amongst it—it was putat the door to be sold for sixpence—I was not quite sure of the prisoner, but swear to him now.
Prisoner's Defence. I had been at work all day; my master seized me, and we both fell together; I know now nothing of it.
GUILTY . ** Aged 20.— Transported for Seven Years.
MR. PARNELL conducted the Prosecution.
GEORGE HENRY KINGSTON . I am a sack-manufacturer, at Southwark-bridge-road. The prisoner has been in my service nearly twelve years—on 18th May I said, "John, I think you have been robbing me of some sacks"—hesaid, "Yes, sir, I have had two sacks, I am very sorry for it, it was throughdrink"—I went with Barry to his house—I found nothing there—I went to Arthur's, and found two hundred-weight and two half-hundred-weight sacks—they were mine, and were worth 5s.
WILLIAM ARTHUR . I am a greengrocer and coal-dealer, at Lambeth. The prisoner brought these four bags to me for sale on 10th May—I said Idid not want them—he stood in the shop ten minutes or a quarter of anhour—I bought them of him for 5s.—he was not drunk.
HENRY BARRY (policeman.) I took the prisoner—he called Mr. Kingston on one side, and said he wanted to speak with him, but I wouldnot allow it—this is Mr. Secker'swrking to. this deposition—(read—"Theprisoner says, 'The half-hundred sacks were Mr. Kingston's, the other Imade myself; I am a sackmaker.'")
Prisoner. I took them, but not with the intention of stealing; I was verytipsy.
GUILTY. Aged 21.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor and Jury. — Confined Ten Days .
Before Mr. Recorder.
GUILTY . Aged 41.— Confined Three Months.
JOHH HOWELL . I am in the service of George Winter and George Rix, of St. Saviour's, Southwark. On 19th May I saw the prisoners together, about six yards from the premises—Cowmey went into the yard by himself, and took this spring, and crossed the road with it—it is the property of Wnter and Rix.
JAMES JONES . I am in the employ of Messrs. Winter and Rix. I saw Cowmey come out of the yard with the spring—I followed him to the corner—Tucker joined him there—he was in the act of covering it with the sack—they saw me, dropped the spring, and ran away—I called to a policeman tostop one—another lad was with them, I did not see which way he went.
had nothing to do with it"—he made very great resistance—the spring wasabout ten yards from him—he denied that he had had it.
Cowmey's Defence. I was not near the yard; I never had the sprint; Ihave lost my left arm and two fingers off my right hand.
Tucker's Defence. I was standing by the side of the gate, talking toanother man.
*COWMEY— GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Nine Months.
*TUCKER— GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Six Months.
THOMAS BOYCE . I am in the service of George Winter and another, of Bankside. This cart-pin and chain are their property, and were loose in thecart I drove, at half-past four o'clock on 5th June—I missed it at a quarterbefore five o'clock—it was not likely to drop out, the tailboard was up.
FREDERICK FREEMAN (policeman, M 124.) I was on duty at Bankside on 5th June, and saw the prisoner in a coal-yard adjoining Mr. Winter's—hesaw me, and ran off—I ran after him, saw something under his arm, took bin, and found he had this pin and chain—I asked where he got it—he said a boygave him a penny to carry it—I searched him—he had no penny.
Prisoner. A boy asked me to carry it, and said he would give me apenny; he saw the policeman, and ran off; I knew then that he had stolenit. Witness. There were five or six other boys and men in the yard.
GUILTY. Aged 17.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury. — Confined Seven Days .
STEPHEN CHAPPELL . I live in Crufched-friars. I attend a chapel in Trinity-street, Newington—I saw the prisoner there several times—on 29th May I had a black bag lying on the seat there, containing a Bible andservice-hook—I saw the prisoner there, and missed them when he went.
Prisoner. Q. Are you one of the priests? A. No—I wear a robe—I didnot see you go out with these books—no other person was near them.
ESTHER HAMILTON . I live with my father, in Rockingham-row. I wasat the chapel in Trinity-street on 29th May—I saw the prisoner, before theservice commenced, take a bag, and put it between him and his hat—Mrs. Seers came and took it from there—I then saw him take a Bible from the seatwhere he sat, put it into his pocket, and move into Mr. Chappell's seat—abag was lying at the end of the seat—he put it between him and his hat, andwhen the service was ended he took it up and went out with it—I told thedoor-keeper.
Prisoner. I asked you why you did not give information at the time, andyou said you were frightened. Witness. Yes, I was frightened—a bag washanging at the end of the seat, but that was empty.
Prisoner's Defence. The book this girl says she saw me take from theseat was my own; I offered to assist the policeman in any way.
GUILTY . * Aged 30.— Confined Fifteen Months.
ADJOURNED TO MONDAY, JULY 3RD, 1848.