CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.
MINUTES OF EVIDENCE,
Taken in Short-hand
JAMES DROVER BARNETT
33, Southampton-street, Strand.
SESSION VII. TO SESSION XII.
GEORGE HEBERT, CHEAPSIDE.
TYLER & REED, PRINTERS, BOLT-COURT, FLEET-STREET.
On the Queen's Commission of the Peace,
OYER AND TERMINER, AND GAOL DELIVERY
The City of London,
AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE
COUNTRY OF MIDDLESEX, AND THE PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION
CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT,
Held on Monday, May 15th, 1848, and following Days.
Before the Right Hon. JOHN KINNERSLEY HOOPER , LORD MAYOR of the City of London; Sir Edward Hall Alderson, Knt., one of the Barons of Her Majesty's Court of Exchequer; Sir Thomas Coltman, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; William Thompson, Esq., M. P.; William Taylor Copeland, Esq., M.P.; Sir Chapman Marshall, Knt.; Michael Gibbs, Esq.; and John Johnson, Esq., Aldermen of the said City: the Hon. Charles Ewan Law, M.P., Recorder of the said City: Thomas Farncomb, Esq.; John Musgrove, Esq.; William Hunter, Esq.; Thomas Sidney, Esq., M.P.; Francis Graham Moon, Esq.; Thomas Quested Finnis, Esq.; and William Lawrence, Esq., Aldermen of the said City: John Mirehouse, Esq., Common-Serjeant of the said City: and Edward Bullock, Esq., Judge of the Sheriffs' Court: Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.
LIST OF JURORS.
CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.
HOOPER, MAYOR. SEVENTH SESSION.
star (*) denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—Two stars (**) that they have been more than once in custody—An obelisk (†) that they are known to be the associates of bad characters.
LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES.
OLD COURT.—Monday, May 15th, 1848.
PRESENT—The Right Hon. the LORD MAYOR, Mr. RECORDER, Mr. Alderman FARNCOMB, Mr. Alderman MUSGROVE, Mr. Alderman WILLIAM HUNTER; and Mr. Alderman SIDNEY.
Before Mr. Recorder and the First Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 51.— Confined One Year.
EDWARD COX. I lodge at Tottenham. On 25th April, about seven o'clock in the evening, I went to my lodging, and heard the prisoner, who lodged in the same house, abusing me, and saying he would do me an injury before he went away—I said nothing till his wife said, "That b—y Edward Cox"—I then said, "My good woman, do not say that"—in a little while I was knocked down, and was taken to a doctor, and examined—the blood came from my ear—the woman hit me twice—a policeman took her to the station, and the prisoner stopped behind, and waylaid me, and when I came out of the station he began kicking me, and said, "Now, you b—, I mean to finish you"—a gentleman jumped off the omnibus, and the prisoner ran away—I did not see him again till he was brought to the station, while I was having my head washed—I believe he was a little drunk—I had summoned him for an assault, and he had not paid for that—I believe he is an Irishman.
GEORGE HILLIARD. I live at Stafford. On the evening of 25th April I was on an omnibus at Tottenham, about 200 yards from where this took place, and heard a cry of "Murder!" four or five times—I jumped down—the prisoner and another had got Cox down, and were kicking him about the body and face—I saw seven or eight kicks—he was covered with blood, and seemed insensible—they ran away—I took the prisoner in a garden, 600 or
700 yards off, and I am sure he is one of them—he is under recognizances for a former assault on Cox.
WILLIAM LENNING (policeman.) I took the prisoner—Cox was taken to the station, and a doctor sent for—he was bleeding dreadfully from the head—he had dreadful kicks there—there was a deep wound—I could put my finger into it—he was taken home and put to bed—he was disabled from work—the prisoner had light boots on.
Prisoner. You called me an irish b----r. Witness. I did not—I am in bodily fear—you have sworn to take my life.
Prisoner's Defence. I did not kick him, I might have stumbled over him; I did strike him, but am not guilty of more than half of what he says.
GUILTY on 2nd Count. Aged 32.— Confined Two Years
NEW COURT.—Monday, May 15th, 1848.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Fifth Jury.
WILLIAM ATTWATER. I live at 25, Devonshshire-street, Queen-square—it is my dwelling-house. On 27th Jan. I had two shawls, a dress, a handkerchief, safe in my shop window, about half-past eight o'clock in the morning—I was absent about ten minutes—when I returned they were gone—this is the handkerchief—(produced.)
JESSE JEAPES (policeman, E 146.) On 27th Jan. I was on duty in Great Ormond-street, about a quarter before nine in the morning—I saw the prisoner with Benjamin Moore, who had something before him tied in a handkerchief—I took Moore, and found on him this handkerchief and some other goods—the prisoner said he had nothing to do with that man, and ran away.
1182. DAVID ROMAYNE , stealing 66, 380 buttons, value 13l. 3s., the goods of william Henry Poncio; and 72 razor-strops, 72 pencil-cases, 54 steels, and other articles, 6l. 4s. 6d., the goods of Peter Poncio.
WILLIAM HENRY PONCIO. I am a general dealer. I got acquainted with the prisoner in Birmingham—I bought a quantity of buttons of Mr. Sylvester, in Great Charles-street, Birmingham—I packed them in a box—the prisoner said, "If you take them to London I can sell them for you"—I said, "Very well, if you get me a customer I will pay you"—I said I did not know where to go—he said, "I have a cousin, named Belasco, in Petticoat-lane; if you send them there they will be safe"—I got a box, packed them with some planes and other articles, and took them in a cart to the railway—he said he had better put his name on the box, and then they would be safe, and they would know who they were for—we sent the box by the goods-train, to Belasco, in petticoat-lane—we arrived in town next day, about half-past six or seven o'clock—he took me to the blue Pig, St. Mary Axe—I asked him if that was where the goods were brought to—he said,
no; the place where he sent them was not fit for me to go to—I would not rest, and he took me to Belasco's—he went up stairs—I asked the mistress if the goods had come there—she said, no, she knew nothing about them—when the prisoner came down I asked him if he saw the goods—he said, "No"—he went across to a public-house, and said, "I wish you good night"—I went over to a Mr. butcher's, and asked him if he knew anything about him—he said mo, he knew his brother—the prisoner came to me next morning, and had some cloth of me—he said, "I will go and see if I can sill this cloth for you"—we went to the other side of the town—we walked about till four or five o'clock, and them he went off, and promised to meet me at ten o'clock next morning—I went to Belasco's, and asked if the box was there—they said it had not come—I went to Pickford's-wharf, and they proved the delivery of the goods.
HENRY FINNIS (City policeman, 633.) on 18th Jan. I received information, and went to the prisoner's lodging, in Breton's court, Ratcliff-highway, about one o'clock in the morning—he was in bed—I said I wanted him, for stealing a quantity of buttons—he said, "I have not stolen them; I am a partner; they are here all right."—he he got up, dressed himself, and showed me these remains of the cutlery, and this part of the buttons—the box laid in a corner of the room, broken—the rope had been cut, I found it in the cellar—Poncio gave him in charge—he was out out on bail, and absconded.
SELIM COHEN. I bailed the prisoner—after he left I was desired by Poncio to endeavour to negotiate the business, that he should get his property back—it did not come to a negotiation—it was admitted that it was a partnership transaction, but Poncio wanted all his goods back, and he would sell them and get the prisoner his share—the prisoner wanted his share first.
Cross-examined by MR. MELLER. Q. Poncio admitted that the prisoner had been a partner with him in that transaction? A. Yes—the prisoner did not say he was partner with Peter Poncio—I understood he was to have half the money—he claimed half—one finding money, and the other judgement, is a thing done every day.
WILLIAM HENRY PONCIO re-examined. It was not a partnership—I was to allow him a shilling in the pound for selling them—he did not give any money for the purchase of them—he was to have no share in the profit.
Cross-examined. Q. How long had you known him? A. Not a month—I became very confidential with him—we did not buy many goods together—I did not travel with him—I did not buy different kinds of goods—I did not buy the cloth, I swapped for it—I did not share the proceeds of the cloth with him, it was sold after he took the goods—he never sold any goods for me before—I never gave him any before—I never sold Mr. Wolfe, of London, any buttons—the prisoner told the people at Birmingham that I was going to cheat him—our Friends were not brought in to settle the differences between us—he said he was entitled to half the profits—he did not say he was a partner; I have never admitted that he was—the goods were sold to me, here is the invoice—the prisoner's name was on the box; it was not his—I sent it myself to Belasco's—I saw it at the Birmingham station—all he did was to put the direction on it—I did not sell some hundreds of buttons to a Jew cap-maker in Stafford-street—the prisoner did not ask to have a settlement with me—he claimed some money of me at Birmingham, and I gave him 30s. to go to London to help me sell these things.
COURT. Q. Your Father's name is Pater? A. Yes—some of his things
were sent in that box—I am his partner—he was to receive half the profit—he had no profit in the buttons—he found no money for them—if he had said, "Give me part of that profit, "I would have refused him—he is retired.
---- ----. I found the prisoner at Salt Ash—I charged him on a Judge's warrant, with absconding from bail under a charge of felony—he said it was no felony.
GUILTY. Aged 38.— Confined One Year.
JOHN SAUNDERS HARRISON. I am a master boot and shoemaker. On 25th April I received intimation that a Judge's warrant was issued against the prisoner—knowing him well, I got a copy of the warrant—on the Thursday night I went with an officer to take the prisoner in Green-street, Twig Folly—we took him along Bethnal-green-road and Shoreditch—there was a cry that a Chartist leader was taken, and of, "Knife the b—rs"—we were in an awful predicament—I called out lustily—we took the prisoner to Worship-street—he was taken before Mr. Justice Maule, in Chancery-lane, while waiting for the Judge coming, the prisoner said, "You b—r, I will do for you?"—I was unprepared, and he hit me an awful blow on the head with his stick—I have suffered ever since—my forehead was deeply cut—I was obliged to go to a surgeon, I am now under his care—I have been able to do very little work since.
Prisoner. Q. How long have you known me? A. I think since 1835—your employer has served me with tally-bills—you have collected of me for a person in Hatton-garden—you offered to walk quietly with us, but we knew you too well—I put my hand on you, and said, "We have a Judge's warrant against you"—you said, "Produce your authority, you d—d thief."
Prisoner. I summoned this man two or three times, and put him in the Palace Court for debts due to my employer—I am sorry I struck him, but I was aggravated—he has a great spite against me,
DANIEL COOK. I was present at the assault at Mr. Pearce's, the Mitre—words arose—they were calling "Swindlers," and so on, and the prisoner said to Harrison, "If you call me that again, I will strike you with the stick"—he said, "You are a swindler," and struck him—blood flowed—I took him to a surgeon, and had his head dressed—he lost a deal of blood.
Prisoner. Q. Was I not aggravated. A. You were aggravating one another—some gentlemen in the room said would do as you did.
JAMES HAYWARD (policeman, G 212.) I had the prisoner in custody—aggravating language was used—as I stooped to peck up some books which were dropped, the prisoner struck Harrison with the stick, and cut his head.
GUILTY of a Common Assault.
MR. METCALFE conducted the Prosecution.
ELLEN MEARS. I have had boots, shoes, and calico, of Joseph Davis, at various times—I was in his debt. On 14th Feb. I paid the prisoner 1s. for him—I paid Frequently afterwards, always 1s.—I saw the prisoner write on the hill on each occasion.
Prisoner. Q. You have dealt with me for some time; did you not understand
there was a partnership between Mr. Davis and me? A. I know nothing about that.
Prisoner. You paid me 9d. Witness. No, only 6d., and on 6th March I paid you 6d.
JOSEPH DAVIS. I am a boot and shoe maker, at Limehouse—the prisoner was in my service. Here is an agreement for his weekly services—I have a signature in the cash-book, for his money, which was paid every week—he was to canvass, bring an account of what orders he wanted, collect his money, and give an account of it every night—he had books to enter the sums and dates—on 14th Feb., here is no entry to Mears; nor on 15th, nor after that—it would be entered in the same week's account—here is no entry of 1s. on 13th March, received from Mears, or of 6d. from Pheasant—he has never paid me amy of these three sums, or accounted for them—his wages were 1l. a week—he has robbed me of between 70l. and 80l.
Prisoner. Q. Is the signature to this partnership-agreement your writing? A. Yes—this is an agreement to sell on commission—you were to have half the profits—you were indicted for perjury here last Dec.—I told you you were indebted to me 17l. odd, and I should not have anything more to do with you—you begged of me not to discharge you, but to give you a weekly salary--the agreement, as a servant, is dated 3rd jan., 1848—what you call the agreement for the partnership, was in 1847—I never had you as a partner—you never had a farthing in the world—I do not know of your being in partnership with your wife I went to see you at the watchhouse, and I said, "If this is all you have done (that was with respect to pawning some things) I shall not prosecute you, "but I found these things afterwards—you went to the Thames Police, and swore against me, and then wanted your wife to charge a rape against me to get me out of the way.
Prisoner. You had goods sent to my house, and you came to, me the last day and said, "I wish you would accept a hill for 12l. 15s. to cover the amount, "I said, "I considered myself your partner;" Mr. Taylor took the bill; this indictment is preferred against me to put all the concern on my shoulders; the two shillings are in my collecting-book; the agreement was to get 10l. to take my apprentice off my hands; I have been greatly taken in; I have only received a few shillings of that pound a week. Witness. I paid it in presence of a witness who is here—no wages were due to him—he was considerably in my debt—this second agreement has been acted on ever since the date of it—he has received his wages every week, and he ought to have accounted for all he received.
Prisoner's Defence. I was in partnership with this man's uncle; I got in difficulty in a Loan Society; I assigned over all my property to this man; he took all my goods from me; he made an agreement that I should well as many goods as I could, and should share in the profits; neither of us were to take any part till Christmas; at Christmas I had sold 220l. worth; a balance was left of 40l., 30l. of which was considered good: it was then agreed that neither were to take anything out of the firm; I had and apprentice, but was not in a situation to keep him, and Mr. Davis agreed to take him off my hands; this is got up to prejudice my character; I have collected 15l. a day; they did not think anything of two or three shillings being wrong in the account, so long as it was made up before the bills were settled; Mr. Davis was willing to take my apprentice if he could get 10l. or 15l.; he
said to me, "You enter into an agreement to become my salesman, it is only a nominal thing;" he said it was only to show Mr. Wandly, at Fishmonger's Hall, to get 10l. more for the apprentice; I signed the agreement, and it was shown to the people at the Hall; this is all done because I could not obtain goods; I obtained 23l. of goods of Mr. Taylor; they were all delivered at my house; the last day I collected was on 13th March, and Mr. Davis went with me, he was in presence of Mrs. Mears when she paid it.
Prisoner to MR. DAVIS. Q. Did you not receive 9s. 6d.? A. Yes, on the Monday previous to 13th March—I have my ledger here, in which are the names of twenty persons as customers who have never had goods.
COURT. Q. When did the prisoner leave you? A. On Wednesday, 16th March—he did not then say a word about either of these shillings.
JAMES STEWART. I know Mr. Davis—he called on me since the prisoner and him have been together—he has said that there was an agreement of partnership drawn up between them, but said, "Do you suppose I would take him and consider him a partner, knowing he had no money; his father said he was a scoundrel, he worried his life out of him"—I understood from the prisoner he was a partner—I do not know that I understood it from Davis—I have known the prisoner ten years—I never knew any harm of him—Mr. davis called on me for a debt—I said I did not have the property of him, but of Mr. Galliers.
GUILTY.Aged 38.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury— Confined Six Months.
(There was another indictment against the prisoner.)
GUILTY Aged 24.— Confined Four Months.
MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the Prosecution.
HENRY COOPER. I am a tailor—I am a customer of Welsh and Margetson. On 25th June I paid 7l. 19s., and took this receipt from the person I paid it to—I saw the person write it—I cannot say that it was the prisoner
JOSEPH JAMES WELSH. This receipt is the prisoner's writing—he was in my employ about five years to collect money—if he received any on 22nd May or 23rd June, 1847, it was his duty to pay it over to our cashier, on that day or the following morning—he has given no account of these sums to me—I will not say that I was there at those times, but Mr. Thompson was, to whom he ought to have accounted.
Prisoner. On the Thursday after I left you, you met me, and I told you if you would give me time to see my friends, I would find security to make everything right. Witness. Yes, but I did not leave you with that agreement—I did not say you were to come on the following evening; it was a
suggestion of your own to which I gave no answer—you did not come—you were taken the same evening—I think at first you had 75l. a year—your present salary was 100l. a year, and dinner and tea.
COURT. Q. Have you any partners. A. Yes; four.
HENRY THOMPSON. I am cashier to Messrs. Welch and Margetson—it was the prisoner's business to account to me for money he received on the night he received it, or the next morning—on 23rd May, or next day, he did not account to me for 48l. 2s. 6d., or for any money received from Gay and Evans—on 23rd June, he did not pay or account to me for 7l. 19s.—he gave no account of it.
Prisoners. Q. What was the amount of money passing through my hands? A. Sometimes 500l. or 600l. a day, and sometimes not 6l.
Prisoner's Defence. I can only say, that through a long series of years I never abstracted such a sum as that, nor dreamed of doing it; I asked the prosecutor to give me an opportunity of putting things straight.
GUILTY. Aged 49.— Confined Eighteen Months.
GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY . Aged 32.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY . Aged 20.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Six Months.
RICHARD MADGWICK. I live at 19, Peter-street, Bishopsgate. I had a pair of shoes in a cupboard, when I went to bed on the night of 22nd April—the prisoner was recommended there to sleep that night, and he slept with me—I missed the shoes next morning—these are them (produced.)
Prisoner. Q. What time did you miss them? A. About half-past eight o'clock—you had left about ten minutes past eight—I saw you with a pair of shoes in your hand, but you were not then going out—I could not swear that they were my shoes.
Prisoner. Q. Had you seen me before? A. Several times—I bought the shoes about nine o'clock on Saturday morning, 22nd April.
GUILTY. Aged 28.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor— Confined Two Months.
BENJAMIN INGRAM. I live in Beech-street, and am a timber-merchant. I have a house under repair, at No. 39, next door—there was some lead on it—I missed some of it—the lead produced had been compared with the top of the house.
GUILTY. Aged 23.— Confined Four Months.
JAMES TURNHAM. I live in Love-lane, Aldermanbury. On the evening of 4th April, I was in Ludgate-street, about ten minutes to ten o'clock I received information, and missed my handkerchief—this is it (produced.)
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. You did not know you lost it? A. Not till I felt in my pocket—it was upwards of twenty minutes since I knew it was safe.
MICHAEL HAYDON (City-policeman, 21.) At half-past nine o'clock on the evening of 4th April, I saw the four prisoners together, by the European Tavern, opposite the Mansion House—I followed them down the Poultry—I saw Baker and Hawkins go round a number of persons, touching their pockets—Baker, Wright, and Hawkins went on the left-hand side and Ellis on the right-hand; he kept a look out right and left—Baker, Wright, and Hawkins surrounded a man who was carrying a box, just past Bow Church—the man stopped and put down the box, and they went on to St. Paul's-churchyard—Ellis crossed over and joined them, and they all four remained, talking, for two or three minutes—they went across the churchyard, on the north side—the prosecutor and another gentleman passed rather quickly—the four prisoners quickened their pace and went after them, and near the west end of the yard Wright closed up to the prosecutor—Baker and Hawkins went behind Wright, and Ellis behind Baker and Hawkins—as they turned the corner, I lost sight of them for a moment—when I saw them again, they had slackened their pace, and Wright passed something to Ellis; I could not see what—Ellis put it into his right-hand coat-pocket, and crossed to the left-hand side of Ludgate-street, the other three remaining on the right side—I sent an officer to the prosecutor and took Ellis—I found this handkerchief in his pocket—this other handkerchief I found lying on the ground in the station—this other handkerchief was round Ellis's neck, and this other handkerchief was taken from Wright.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Ellis was some little distance behind Hawkins and Baker? A. Yes—I did not see the handkerchief taken—Ellis put what he had into his right-hand pocket, and from that pocket I drew this handkerchief—there was nothing else in it—I am not aware that I said before the Magistrate that it was the left-hand pocket.
Cross-examined by MR. STEEL. Q. Was there a crowd the European Coffee-house? A. I dare say there were fifty or sixty persons there—I did not take Baker.
Wright's Defence. I was walking along and met Ellis; I picked up the handkerchief; I know nothing of Baker nor Hawkins.
Hawkins. I never saw Ellis nor Wright before; I was in company with Baker.
OLD COURT.—Tuesday, May 16th, 1848.
Before Mr. Recorder and the Second Jury.
(MR. COCKBURN, on the part of the Prosecution, offered no evidence.
GUILTY . Aged 37.— Confined Nine Months.
GUILTY . Aged 19.—Recommended to mercy by Lord Jocelyn, in whose service he had borne a good character, and who engaged to send him to sea.— Confined Six Months.
1197. JOHN MUNDAY and HENRY COOPER , feloniously braking and entering the dwelling-house of John Powell, and stealing 1 razor, value 1s., his property: also 1 handkerchief, 1 dress, 1 brooch, and 18s., the property of Sarah Gray; Munday having been before convicted.
SARAH GRAY. I am housekeeper to John Powell, who keeps the Crown and Anchor, at Staines—the prisoners, who are navigators, lodged there in the name of York and Punch. On 28th April I left a handkerchief, a purse, and 18s. in silver, in a drawer in my bed-room; and a brooch on a pincushion on the table—my bed-room door was locked—on the afternoon of 29th, I went up stairs to dress, found my things scattered about the room, and missed the handkerchief, purse, the silver, and the brooch—the door was cut away with a knife, and the bolt of the lock thrown back—the prisoners had been up into their room between one and two on the Saturday—they came down about two o'clock.
WILLIAM GIBBON (policeman of Windsor.) On Sunday, 30th April, I saw the prisoners come out of George-street, Windsor—I found this handkerchief on Webb—this razor was given to me three days after by a person who picked up on a green, by which the prisoners passed.
MUNDAY— GUILTY. Aged 40.— Transported of Seven Years.
COOPER— GUILTY. Aged 25.— Confined One year.
on Finsbury-pavement, and saw the prisoner and another girl come away from Mr. Anderson's window with something bulky—I saw something was gone from the window—I cannot say which took it—I told a constable—he ran and took the prisoners—the other girl escaped.
WILLIAM POPHAM. I am shopman to John Dyson Anderson. This print (produced) has the warehouse-mark, but not our private mark—I found vacancy at the door—I cannot swear to it—I have brought a piece like it.
HENRY EDEN SMITH (City policeman, 131.) Roe gave me information and I followed the two girls—the prisoner had a bundle under her arm—I laid hold of her, and asked her what it was—she said she did not take it, another person took it—I took her in charge.
Prisoner's Defence. A girl gave it me.
(The prisoner received a good character, and a witness engaged to employ her.)
GUILTY. Aged 15.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Seven Days.
JONES* pleaded GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined Six Months.
JOHNS DAVIS (City policeman, 551) I was in King William-street a little after seven o'clock in the evening, and watched the prisoners together till eight—Jones took something from Mr. Clemow's door—he escaped, and I followed James to a lodging-house in Rosemary-lane—I waited outside ten minutes, and saw Jones go in very quickly with something under his arm—I went in, and saw him with a coat in his hand, showing it to James—I and another officer took them.
JAMES— GUILTY. Aged 24.— Confined Three Months.
GEORGE ROBINSON (policeman.) On 12th May, in the evening. I was on duty in the Back-road, St. George's, and saw the prisoner offering a tablecloth to pawn—I asked where she came from—she refused to tell me, and I took her to the station—she said she would show me where she lived if I would promise not to go near the house—we afterwards went to Cradle-court, Redcross-street—a woman came to the door—the prisoner said she had taken a table-cloth of her—the woman said, "How could you do such a thing, you might have ruined me?"—She said she did not steal it, she meant to return it.
Prisoner. I meant to have returned it in two days; I was to receive some money next day.
ANN JENNINGS. I kept a mangle—the prisoner lived with me, and accasionally turned the mangle. This table-cloth belongs to a person in Jewincrescent—it is worth 8s., and I am answerable for it—the prisoner could not have got it out of pledge next day—she was going to receive 12s. next day, but she owed me all of it but 6d., as I had lent her money—it was pawned two miles and a half from my house—if she had said had wanted money, I should have lent it her—I am sure she would not have had more money
next day to redeem it with if she had paid me what she me—she was pawning it for 1s. 6d.
NEW COURT.—Tuesday, May 16th, 1848.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Sixth Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Nine Months.
JOHN WOLF. I live in Bishopsgate-street. On 10th May I was going up Old-street. I felt a hand in my pocket, turned and saw the prisoner with my handkerchief in his hand—he dropped it and ran away—I ran and secured him—this is my handkerchief (produced.)
GUILTY.* Aged 21.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 21.—Recommended to mercy— Confined Ten Days.
MESSRS. ELLIS and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
CHARLOTTE CHILTON. My husband is a baker, in Chapman-street, St. George's-in-the-East. On wednesday evening, 26th April, the prisoner came about a quarter before eleven o'clock for a half-quartern loaf—it came to threepence—she gave me a crown-piece—I suspected it was bad, and went up stairs and gave it to my husband, who was in bed—he came down and spoke to the prisoner.
Prisoner. I never was in your shop. Witness. I am sure of her—I know her face—I saw her again in twelve days, at Arbour-square, and recognised her at once.
FREDERICK CHILTON. My wife brought me a crown-piece—I came down and found the prisoner in my shop—I am sure she is the person—I asked where she got the crown-piece—she said her father took it of Mr. Cole, at Limehouse—I said it was bad—she said she did not know that, she would go and send her father, and she went away—her father did not come—I did not see her again till she was at Arbour-square on 9th May—I put the crown-piece into my cash-box, with another bad one, which was marked—I gave this one to George Rogers—this is it (produced.)
FRANCES SHUTTLEWORTH. I am the wife of Thomas Shuttleworth, a greengrocer, at Stratford-terrace. On Friday evening, 5th May, about nine o'clock, the prisoner came for a quarter of a hundred weight of coals—they came to
3 1/2d.—she said they were to be sent to the back—I said, "What house?"—she said, "The first horse"—I said, What, at No. 1., at Mrs. Clarke's?"—she said, "Yes"—she gave me a crown—I took it and gave it to my husband.
THOMAS SHUTTLEWORTH. I received the crown from my wife—I bit it, and found it was bad—I told the prisoner so, and asked where she got it—she said she knew where she took it, and wanted me to let her look at it—I asked where she lived, and she said at No. 1, Juniper-row—I went there with her, but she walked past the door—I knocked at the door I then brought her back—I gave the crown to the officer.
GEORGE ROGERS (Policeman, K 182.) I was called, and received this crown from Mr. Shuttleworth—I took the prisoner—I found only two half-pence on her—she said she knew where she got the crown—I asked her where, and she would not tell me—I asked her where she lived—she said, "Anywhere"—I got this other crown from Mr. Chilton.
Prisoner's Defence. I did one of them, but was not aware of its being bad.
GUILTY. Aged 20.— Confined Six Month
JOHN TILLING. I am shopman to Mr. King, a grocer and cheesemonger, in Brick-lane. On the evening of 25th April the prisoner came for some butter—she gave me a shilling, and I gave her ninepence change—shortly afterwards I discovered the shilling was bad, and I put it aside on a high shelf—no one knew it was there—next Monday the prisoner came again for a quartern of butter, and gave me another shilling—I said it was bad, and asked her if she had got any more of that sort—she said no, and she did not know it was bad—she wished me to give it her back—I said, "No," and I called Mr. King into the shop and told him—I said to the prisoner, "I have another shilling here, do you know anything about that?"—she said no, and she never was in the shop before—I marked the two shillings at the station-house and gave them to the officer.
Prisoner. I never was in the shop before. Witness. I am certain she is the person—she is a very remarkable woman—she is afflicted with paralysis.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 22.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury and prosecutors.— Confined Ten Days.
MR. DAWSON conducted the Prosecution.
CHARLOTTE ANNE ZORER. My husband lives in Cranbourn-street. On 29th April, about nine o'clock in the evening, the prisoner came and asked for a cuba cigar, gave me shilling in payment, and I gave him 10 1/2d. change—I gave me a shilling to my servant to get some coffee—she returned immediately and gave it me back—I put it away in drawer in a desk by
itself—it remained there till the 8th May, when the prisoner came again and offered me another had shilling—I gave both to the policeman—the prisoner had come with a half-crown in the intermediate time.
Prisoner. Q. Did you not say to the Magistrate that I gave you three shillings? A. Yes; one was about three months ago, but they that was of no consequence—that enabled me to know you better—I did not know that the second shilling was bad till you were gone.
GUILTY. Aged 20— Confined Six Months.
MR. BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
LAVINIA JEMIMA CUFF. I am the wife of George Cuff, we keep the Queen's Head, on Tower-hill. On Wednesday, 3rd May, about three o'clock in the afternoon, Jones came for a pennyworth of gin, and gave me a half-crown which I thought was bad—I took it to my husband—he pronounced it bad, and came down with me and sent for an officer—I told Jones I had every reason to believe he had been there the day before with a bad shilling—he said he had never been in the house before—an officer came and took Jones in custody—my husband gave the half-crown to the officer, after marking it—I afterwards found the shilling I had taken the day before—I had it in the till at the time with other shillings, but I remarked that it was greasy—Jones said he took it at a cook's shop—I gave it to another party, and he brought it back again—that person is not here—this is the shilling—I identify it by my own mark.
GEORGE CUFF. My wife brought the half-crown up stairs to me—I went down and found Jones there—(he had been there not a quarter of an hour before and had half-a-pint of beer of me)—the officer came in, and Jones whispered to him that there was a party outside who gave him the half-crown, and the officer went and took Smith into custody.
WILLIAM CHILD. I am constable of Tower-hill—I was sent for to the Queen's Head—I found Jones there—the landlord gave me the half-crown—I asked Jones where he got it; he said, "A party outside gave it me"—he asked me to come to the tap-room window and he would show me the person, and he pointed put Smith—he said, "You will find several dealers about him"—I went out and took hold of Smith—he was within twenty yards of the house—he tried to get he hand to his mouth—I took hold of his arms—he got me over the grating of an empty house and dropped these two shillings down—I took Smith to Jones—he said he never saw Jones before—I asked Jones if that was the man—he said, yes, it was.
Jones. Q. You were looking in my mouth, and a man said, "What are you looking in the man's mouth for? he has got nothing there." A. He was one of the same gang—there were four of you.
Smith's Defence. I was coming from the Docks; I asked a man for a light; I had not had it two minutes before this man came and said, "I want you;" he took me to the public-house, and then he said he saw me throw two shilling down the grating.
JONES— GUILTY. Aged 21.
SMITH— GUILTY. Aged 22.
Confined Nine Months.
MESSRS. BODKIN and DAWSON conducted the prosecution.
JAMES BRANNAN policeman, G 20.) On 29th April, between nine and ten o'clock in the morning, I saw the prisoner in High-street, Shoreditch, in company with a man and woman—I watched them, and saw the prisoner leave them—I went to him and said, "Young man, I belong to the police; what have you got about you?"—he said, "Nothing"—I took hold of his arm, and another officer took this paper from his pocket, which contained these three counterfeit shillings—he said he had picked them up—I also produce another shilling which I got from Mr. Wallington.
HANNAH WALLINGTON. My husband is a pastry-cook in Rosoman-street. On 28th of April the prisoner came for a two penny loaf; he gave me a shilling—I told him it was bad—I was going to bend it—he told me not to bend it but to give it him back—I asked where he got it—he said where he bought some butter, which he had in his hand, near Clerkenwell Church—I said I would send my husband with him—he then went off, leaving the shilling with me—I gave it to the officer.
Prisoner's Defence. I picked them up; I went to this woman's shop with a shilling; she said it was bad, and I did not went offer the others; I was going on an errand for Mr. Hickman, my master.
GUILTY. Aged. 22.— Confined Ten Days.
LOUISA WALLER. I am niece of Mr. Beswick, who keeps a beer-shop. On the 21st April the prisoner and a girl came—he called for a pint of porter, and threw a shilling down, I put it into the till—there was no other shilling there—the prisoner went out, and came in again in about five minutes, called for another pint, and put down another shilling—I found it was bad, and showed it to my aunt—I then went to the till and found the other shilling was bad—I had not taken any in the mean time—I told the prisoner he had passed bad money—he said he never was in the house before—my aunt told my uncle to go for an officer—the prisoner ran away—my uncle ran after him.
GEORGE PUPLFTT (policeman, E 43.) I took the prisoner. As soon as Mr. Beswick put the two shillings in my hand the prisoner struck me on the hand, to knock them out of my hand—these are the two shillings.
Prisoner's Defence. I did not go into the house; it does not stand to reason that I should go in a second time.
GUILTY. Aged 22.— Confined Six Months.
MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.
CHARLES MUNDAY. I am in the service of Messrs. Hunt and Co.; the firm was originally Storr and Mortimer's—Mr. Tyssen was in the habit of dealing with us—he was in the habit of putting up at No. 4, Albermsrle-street—on 13th Feb. 1847, the prisoner came and said Mr. Tyssen was stopping at his house, in Albermarle-street, and he wanted some plate, as he was going to have a dinner party—I knew Mr. Tyssen as a customer, and took the prisoner to Mr. Harker, and he told me to let Mr. Tyssen have anything he required—I took the prisoner to the room where the plated articles were—he said he did not approve of them, they were not good enough—I then took him into the silver room, and he selected four round dishes, covers, and warmers, twenty-four plain table-forks, eighteen spoons, twelve dessert-forks, four round dishes, one oval 18-inch dish, four 12-inch dishes, two silver saucepans, and a coffee-pot—the articles were cleaned and packed up, and sent to No. 4, Albermarle-street, by Greenham—these are the four 12-inch dishes, and these are the four dishes and covers—this is the 18-inch dish—this is the coffee-pot (produced.)
Prisoner. Q. Had these any stands? A. No, they were without stands—you said Mr. Tyssen wanted them.
JOHN HARKER. I am one of the principal assistants to Mr. John Hunt and others. On 13th Feb. Munday came to me, and said, in the prisoner's presence, that he wanted some things for Mr. Tyssen, who is an old customer of the firm—I directed him to look out the things—he and the prisoner together looked them out—I entered them in the book—Munday mentioned to me, in the prisoner's presence, that Mr. Tyssen was going to have a dinner party—I saw the articles when they were selected—all that were selected were returned, except those that are now here—I know these articles perfectly well—they are ours.
JAMES GREENHAM. I am in the prosecutor's employ. After the articles were packed up on the 13th Feb. I took them to No. 4 Albermarle-street—the prisoner opened the door, and I delivered them to him, for Mr. Tyssen's use.
WILLIAM GEORGE DANIEL TYSSEN. ESQ. I live principally in the county of Norfolk, and occasionally in Scotland—I was there last year. On 13th Feb., last year, I think I was in London—I was occasionally at No. 4, Albermarle-street—I did not on that day require a number of spoons and forks, and other things, for a dinner party at the prisoner'house—I did not give him authority to hire them, or to bespeak them in my name—till I heard of this from Messrs. Storr and Mortimer's, I had not the slightest idea of anything of the kind—I did not authorise the prisoner to pawn these articles.
RICHARD HENRY CLOUD. I am assistant to Mr. Fleming, a pawnbroker. some time previous to 24th April, 1847, the prisoner pawned this 18-inch silver dish for 12l.; and on 24th April he came and had 3l. more on it, in the name of Thomas Williams, Albermarle-street—I am positive he is the person—I had served him frequently—I produce this coffee-pot, but I did not take it in.
WILLIAM BONHAM. I am in the employ of Mr. Luxmore, a pawnbroker. I produce these four silver dishes—they were pawned at our shop, by the prisoner, on 20th Feb., 1847, in the name of Thomas Williams, for 70l. 5s.—they were not pawned with me, but I was present.
Prisoner. I admit pawning them, but he was not present. Witness. I was present.
CHARLES HELLIAR. I am now engaged in a brewery—I was formerly assistant to Mr. Luxmore. I have known the prisoner sixteen or seventeen years as a housekeeper, in Albermarle-street—he pawned these four dishes and covers with me on 20th Feb. JESSE JEAPES (policeman, C 146.) I took the prisoner into custody on 21st Aug. last, at the Court of Bankruptcy—one of Messrs, Storr and Mortimer's servants was with me—he pointed the prisoner out—he said "This is the man I charge with obtaining the plate under false pretences"—the prisoner said, "It is what I expected"—I found on him two duplicates for a silver dish pawned for 15l.; and a silver coffee-pot for 5l.—I took him to the police-office—he was remanded from time to time for the production of Mr. Tyssen, who was in Scotland—the prisoner was allowed to go on his own recognizances—he did not appear on the day he ought to have appeared—on that day Mr. Tyssen was at the Police-court—I took the prisoner on 22nd April, at a village six miles from Shrewsbury—I brought him up on a Judge's warrant.
WILLIAM BALLARD. I have been an officer for many years—I was formerly attached to Bow-street—I received instructions to apprehend the prisoner—I went with Jeapes to the Bankruptcy Court, and brought the prisoner from there—I saw Jeapes at the station take a bunch of keys from the prisoner, with one of which I opened a box at Mr. Le Blanc's office—I found in it a duplicate for four silver dishes and covers, pawned for 70l. 5s.—it is stuck on the back of one of Mr. Luxmore's cards—I went there and found these dishes—I told Mr. Luxmore there were four more dishes which I had not the duplicates of—Mr. Luxmore looked, and found them—these are them.
Prisoner. Mr. Le Blanc has been the cause of all this; I possessed a a house under his uncle.
WILLIAM ELLIOTT LE BLANC. I am a solicitor, and live in Bridge-street, Blackfriars—the late Judge was my uncle. I saw Ballard search a box at my office—it was opened with a key that either Jeapes or Ballard had—it was the prisoner's box—I took the duplicate out of it, and gave it is Ballard—he gave me a receipt for it.
Prisoner. There were other articles in the box? Witness. Yes; an execution was put into the prisoner's house for a considerable sum of money due to my uncle, to whom the house belonged—at the same time an execution was put in for debt—the prisoner was in distress—I was directed to get him out—I lent him money, and paid out the execution for debt—I told him if he would vacate the house, and assign his property to me, under a bill of sale for taxes and rent, I would take possession of it—he left the house, with all the furniture in it, which was mostly sold, but a few things were kept back by the prisoner's desire, and amongst other things was this box, which was taken to my office—it remained a considerable time locked—I had no key of it, but when the officers came, the key was produced, and the box was opened.
Prisoner. Q. Did I not apply to you for that box? A. Yes—you became a bankrupt—you made yourself a bankrupt by your own affidavit.
Prisoner. This is all a conspiracy against me; he has now a plate-ches✗
of mine, upwards of 70l. worth of plate. Witness. I have nothing—I delivered it up to the messenger of the Bankruptcy Court.
Prisoner's Defence. I took the remainder of the things back myself, and said I would keep the others; I have dealt with the prosecutors these twenty years; they have been in the habit of lending me plate.
GUILTY. Aged 43.— Transported for Seven Years.
1213. GEORGE FRANKS , stealing a piece of paper with a stamp, de-nothing the payment of 1l. 15s.; I sheet of paper, and I book, value 13d.; the property of John Robert Hall, his master; and WILLIAM WHITLEY , for feloniously receiving the book, and also as an accessary after the fact; to which FRANKS pleaded GUILTY . Aged 21.— Judgment Respited.
MR. BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN ROBERT HALL. I am a law-stationer, in Tavistock-row, Covent-garden. Franks was in my service—I have know Whitley about twelve months—he was in the service of Few and Co., and was acquainted with Franks—after he left Few and Co., their managing clerk gave him some bills, which he wrote at home, but which passed through my office—on 13th March I procured from the Stamp-office, in exchange for allowance-tickets, two 35s. stamps on parchment, and four on paper—they were brought to my house by Footman, and placed in a drawer in the counter—Franks was there when they were brought in, and he remained there—it is our custom to count the stamps at night, and one of them which was on paper was missed—I inquired about it, and inquired of Franks, but I could get no tidings of it—On Saturday, the 25th March, about a quarter past one o'clock, Whitley came to my house—(it is the practice of the Stamp-office, if any stamps are spoiled, to give allowance-tickets to get other stamps of the same amount, and it is usual to sell those tickets amongst law-stationers)—he brought this allowance-ticket, and asked me to give him cash for it—I said it was not quite convenient to do so then, but I would on the Monday, if he would leave it—he said he wished to make up some money, and I eventually gave him 1l. 13s. 3d. for it, deducting five per cent.—while we were dealing, Franks came in, and he said, "What, Whitely, have you been spoiling stamps?"—Whitley replied, "What is it to you if I have been spoiling stamps?"—Franks remained there till Whitely was going—he them said, "Whitley, I have a letter for you;" and he was going out to fetch it—I said, "Another time will do;" but I saw he was very desirous of going out, and I did not prevent him—he was gone about ten minutes—that anxiety to go out created my suspicion, and I Want to the Stamp-office, and an affidavit was produced to me, numbered the same as this allowance-ticket—it was written by Franks, in the name of Whitley, spelling the name with ly, instead of ley—I saw there the stamp that the affidavit alluded to—I believe it to be the stamp that had been stolen from my drawer—it had been written on by Franks—I knew it from his figures of being on the back of it—this is the allowance-ticket—here are two figures of 35s. on it, one in ink, which is my writing—I do not know whose writing the other is—it looks a little like Franks'—I lost a book at the same time I lost the stamp—this is it—it has my name in it—it was kept behind the counter—it was found at Whitley's lodgings—here are some entries of mine in it— —the last entry is Franks' writing, which has no reference to my business at all—Whitley would have no right to have any book of mine.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Franks was in your employ, and knew where these stamps were kept? A. Yes—allowance-tickets are granted as a matter of course, on an affidavit that the property is your own—there
is no difficulty in getting rid of them—I have had no communication with Franks to induce him to plead guilty—Few and Co. are my attorneys—I did not authorise them to offer Whitley a pardon if he would confess—I never heard of such a proposition being made.
----POWELL. I belong to the Stamp-office. This affidavit was made by Franks, on 25th march, between twelve and one o'clock—it refers to this spoiled stamp—this allowance-ticket refers to the same.
WHITLEY— NOT GUILTY.
Mr. STEELE conducted the Prosecution.
JOSEPH BURDON. I am a porter in the employ of Mr. Atkinson. On the 18th March the prisoner came and said be wanted a pair of boots for Mr. Davenport, of Wood-streer—I went up stairs to one of the young men, and then gave the prisoner a pair of boots belonging to Mr. Atkinson—the gentleman has not seen them since.
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. The gentleman is not here? A. No; he is very ill.
MR. STEELE conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM HENRY TRYER. I live in Lawrence Pountney-lane. The prisoner came to me six weeks ago—he said he came from Mr. Hands. of Cheapside, for two pairs of boots of Mr. Phillips', to be stretched—Mr. Hands is my bootmaker—I said, "Take this pair of boots of mine to be soled, and send them to my residence in Red Lion-square"—I have never seen them since.
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. Had you ever seen the prisoner before? A. NO: I Saw him about four weeks afterwards in charge.
JOSHUA NICHOLLS. I am a porter in the employ of Mr. Phillips. The prisoner came to my master's about six weeks ago—he said he came for a pair of boots of Mr. Phillips to be stretched—I said Mr. Phillips was out—I had never seen him before, but I have no doubt he is the man.
MR. STEELE conducted the Prosecution.
FRANCES BIGGS. I keep a lodging-house in St. Andrew's-hill. On 1st April the prisoner came to my house, and said he wanted a pair of boots to be stretched for a gentleman, whose name he had forgotten—I said, "Who do you come from?"—he said, "From Mr. Peyton's, in Cheapside"—I asked the servant if any gentleman had given orders for his boots to be stretched, she said, "No"—I said to the prisoner, "Should you know the
name if you heard it?"—he said he thought he should—I said, "Is it Lee?"—he said, "Yes"—I called the servant to bring Mr. Lee's boots, and I gave them to the prisoner—I am not quite certain what Mr. Lee's name is—I think it is William Henry—I belive so—his letters are directed "Mr. W. H. Lee"—I have paid Mr. Lee 30s. for his boots.
GUILTY. Aged. 21.— Confined One Year.
1217. HENRY NICHOLLS and GEORGE WOODMAN , stealing 1 snuffer-tray, value 3d., the goods of John Newton; Nicholls having been before convicted. MARY ANN JOHNSON. On 2nd May, about eleven o'clock at night, the two prisoners came to my uncle's, John Newton's house, at Cowley, near Uxbridge—I saw the candlestick and snuffer-tray at nine o'clock that night, and missed them at seven next morning—I do not know what time the prisoners left—they did not lodge there—these are the candlesticks and snuffertray—they are my uncle's.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How do you know them? A. I have cleaned them a great many times, and this one is bruised—we have others like them.
STEPHEN MASTERS (policeman, T 199.) About one o'clock in the night of 2nd May, I saw the two prisoners coming into Uxbridge, in a direction from Cowley—Nicholls was carrying this basket—I asked what was in it, and was going to look—Woodman caught hold of it, and swore I should not—I said I would—he said if I did he would break my b—head—another officer came up, and Nicholls ran away—I took the basket from Woodman, and found these things in it—he said he knew nothing about them—I afterwards took Nicholls—he said he knew nothing about them.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you tell Woodman's mother she had better write to him to persuade him to plead guilty? A. No—she asked me to give her advice—I said she had better ask some one else, he might please himself whether he pleaded guilty or not—he asked me to call on her.
(Woodward received a good character.)
NICHOLLS— GUILTY. Aged 19.— Confined One Year.
WOODMAN— GUILTY. Aged 19.— Confined Two Months.
MR. BODKIN offered no evidence.
OLD COURT.—Wednesday, May 17th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Baron ALDERSON, Mr. Justice COLTMAN, Mr. Ald. JOHNSON, Mr. Ald. SIDNEY, and EDWARD BULLOCK, Esq.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq. and the Third Jury.
SIEVEWRIGHT pleaded GUILTY . Aged 13.— Confined Eight Months.
TASKER pleaded GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Six Months.
OAKEY pleaded GUILTY . Aged 15.— Confined Four Months.
(Tasker and Oakey received good characters.)
GILBERT BLIGHE. I am a stationer, in Gracechurch-street. On the 2nd or 3rd May, the prisoner brought this paper (produced)—he said he wished the goods sent to the direction on the order on the same evening, and he wished to have the postage stamps then—in consequence of some inquiries I made, I did not send the things—I gave the order to the policeman—(order read—"2nd May, 1848. Mr. Blighe, Gracechurch-street. Please deliver one ream blue ruled foolscap, half commercial letter paper, 500 each; official, and one sheet postage stamps. GEORGE MEEKING, 7, Albion-place, Blackfriars.")
GEORGE MEEKING. I assist my father, William Fountain Meeking, and live at Albion-place, Blackfriars. I knew the prisoner about three years ago—this paper is not in my writing or my father's—I did not authorize anybody to write it—I do not know whose writing it is—I know no other George Meeking.
Prisoner's Defence. A person came up to me as I was walking along Fish-street-hill; he accosted me by name, and said, "You don't recollect me;" I said, "I do not;" he asked me where I was going; I said, "To St. Mary-at-hill:" he said, "Would you take this order for me to Knight and Foster's as you go by?" I took it in, put it down, and told them to execute it; I did not wish to take any of the goods away; Mr. Foster was not in; the youth who served me said he would send for him; I said it was not necessary, as the goods were not wanted; he said he would rather send for him; I waited till he came, and he said he remembered something about a similar order before; he sent for a policeman, and gave me in custody; my family are highly respectable, and are acquainted with several gentlemen of high standing; Mr. Anderton, the Common Councilman, said he would be here.
GUILTY. Aged 19.— Confined Twelve Months.
(There was another indictment against the prisoner.)
Before Mr. Baron Alderson.
MESSRS. BODKIN and ROBINSON conducted the Prosecution.
CALEB EDWARD POWELL. I am assistant-solicitor to the Mint. I produce a copy of the record of the prisoner's conviction at this Court—I have compared it with original, it is a true copy—(read—Convicted June, 1847, and confined six months).
change—I looked at the half-crown and found it was bad—I put it into my waistcoat pocket, separate from other money, and went after the prisoner—I met Moore, the market beadle, marked the half-crown, and gave it to him—I saw the prisoner about twenty minutes after—I am quite certain he is the man.
THOMAS WALTER. I am a porter in Covent-garden Market. On Saturday morning, 22nd April, I saw the prisoner give Mr. Hitchcock a half-crown and receive the change and go away—Mr. Hitchcock showed me the half-crown—I saw it was bad, and pointed out the prisoner to Moore, who took him—I am sure he is the man.
RICHARD MOORE. I am beadle of Covent-garden Market. I received this half-crown (produced) from Hitchcock—Walter pointed out the prisoner to me—I laid hold of him, and he asked what I wanted—I told him he knew perfectly well, when we got to the station I would tell him—he went quietly to the station—I went to search him and he said, "Oh, if that is it take that," and struck me in the jaw—he tried to get his hand into his waistcoat pocket—I got the assistance of four policemen, and after great resistance I managed to get my hand into his pocket, and found this other bad half-crown—the inspector told him he was charged with passing a counterfeit half-crown to Hitchcock, who was there—he denied it.
MR. POWELL re-examined. Both the half-crowns are counterfeit—one is a William IV. and the other a Victoria.
Prisoner's Defence. I am not guilty; I was going to give up the money I had in my pocket, which was 5s. 1d., when they seized and pretty well strangled me.
GUILTY.— Transported for Seven Years.
1223. FRANCIS M'GOWRAN, JAMES M'GOWRAN , and RICHARD CHARLES BARTON , feloniously forging and uttering a will, purporting to be that of Francis M'Gowran deceased, with intent to defraud Margaret Girdlestone.
The prosecutor being called on his recognizance, and the witnesses not appearing, the prisoners were ACQUITTED .
Before Mr. Justice Coltman.
MESSRS. BODKIN and ROBINSON conducted the Prosecution.
JAMES BRANNAN (police-sergeant, G 20). On Saturday, 6th May, I was in company with constables Harvey, Neville, and Hawkins, in George-street, Foley-street, Tottenham-court-road, and saw the prisoner Alexander come from No. 27, in that street—I crossed over with the other constables, seized him by the arm, and told him I belonged to the police, and had directions to take him into custody, on suspicion of having in his possession counterfeit coin—I pushed him into a shop, put my hand into his waistcoat pocket, and found in it two half-crowns and ten shillings, separately divided by paper to prevent them rubbing—he said, "It is all right, you have got me to rights"—I also found four half-crowns, five shillings, six sixpences, and seven fourpenny-pieces, all good—I then took him to the house he came from,
and knocked at the door—it was opened by a female, and I asked her what part of the house Alexander occupied—she hesitated, and Alexander said, "It is all right, the top back attic"—we went to that room, and found the key in the lock outside—I unlocked the door, entered the room, and saw Wilmot at a table, with his back towards me, his coat off, and his shirt sleeves tucked up—I seized him and took him to a distant part of the room—on the table stood four galvanic battery jars, and four cups, out of one of which Wilmot took a sixpence when I seized him—Hawkins immediately took it from him—in the same cup there were these three other counterfeit sixpences in a solution, to receive a colour like silver—each battery jar was connected by a wire, with silver leaf attached in the cup in which was some solution—I produce a portion—the other cups contained solution and counterfeit shillings—on the table I found strewed, 25 shillings and 15 sixpences, all of which appeared to have been recently operated upon—on the windowledge, which was a sort of work-bench, I found 14 counterfeit half-crowns, with the rough edges on them, after having been cast, and before being silvered, and three counterfeit shillings complete for circulation—I also found this piece of iron steel with a graining on the edge for the purpose of milling the edges, to give them a perfect appearance—I also found these ten files, with white metal in their teeth, five powders of different colours, five bottles containing liquid, and these five plaster-of-paris moulds in a box near the window, three for casting half-crowns, one of which was warm, a double mould for shillings, and a double mould for sixpences—I also found two iron ladles, with a piece of white metal in one, hot, forming the get, which is the refuse cast into the channel of the mould—several tin bands for the purpose of forming plaster-of-pairs moulds, with plaster adhering to them, seven galvanic battery plates, and some copper wires which appear as if they had been dipped in the solution, they were then dry—I also found a pair of large scissors, and two knives with plaster-of-paris adhering to the blades.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Who was with you when you spoke to Alexander? A. Harvey and Neville—I think he was about six or seven doors from the house—the door was closed—I was in George-street when I first saw him—I do not think he could see me—I was in a house, and Neville and Harvey also—another policeman in private clothes was further on in the street—it is very likely Alexander knew me by sight—when he came out he turned to the left towards Marylebone-street, and O pursued him the other constables were by when he said I had got him to rights—I had received my instructions in writing from Mr. Powell—the other policemen were under my directions—I should not have gone to the back attic unless Alexander had told me that was his room—I should have gone to the house.
MR. BODKIN. Q. Did you lose sight of Alexander from the time he left the house till you took him into custody? A. No—I took him two or three minutes after he came out of the house, and we were back in the house two or three minutes after he came our—he did not communicate with anybody—I did not give him an opportunity.
Cross-examined. Q. Have you been in Court while Brannan was being examined? A. No—I was stationed in a chandler's-shop with two more policemen, nearly opposite the house Alexander came out of—when he came out I followed him, and overtook him at the bottom of the street, about fifty or 100 yards off—he was there, pushed into a shop, and searched, and afterwards
taken back to the house—that was about ten minutes or a quarter of an hour after he had come out.
MR. BODKIN. Q. Was Brannan in the chandler's shop? A. Yes—I did not see Alexander communicate with any one before he was taken—he did not offer any resistance—the money was taken from him directly, and he then said, "It is all right, you have got me to rights."
JAMES HAWKINS (policeman, G 191.) I saw Alexander taken, and went up into the room—I produce nine shillings, which I took out of the three cups, and one sixpence, which I took from Wilmot's hand, when Brannan had seized him, and taken him from the table—I also found this paper of red powder on the table.
JOHN CROOK. I am a smith, and keep the house, 27, George-street—I let the back attic last Michaelmas, to a Mrs. Fassett—she left 1s. deposit—Alexander came the same day, or next morning, as her husband—he took the room for colouring maps in—he was to pay 2s. 6d. a week—he said he wanted only one chair and a table to sit at the window—I cannot say whether he told me his name—he said he was the husband of the person who took the room—she went by the name of Fassett—I always knew him as Mr. Fassett—he continued to occupy the room till he was taken—he paid me the rent once a fortnight—he did not sleep there to my knowledge—I believe Mrs. Fassett used to bring him his meals—I have not myself seen her do so—I do not know Wilmot.
Cross-examined. Q. Did Mrs. Fassett live there? A. No—nobody slept in the room, to my knowledge—Mrs. Fassett said she took the room for Mr. Fassett to colour maps in—I made the agreement with her—when Alexander came he said it was a nice little room, and would suit him very well—I do not know when I saw him next—I have seen him come down stairs at times—I never saw him in the room except when he agreed about it.
HARRIET SQUIRES. I am married. I occupied a room on the same floor with the prisoners—I have seen Alexander come backwards and forwards to the back attic since last Oct., and Wilmot for about a fortnight—I have not seen them together—I do not know how long they were there at any time.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you ever see a woman there? A. Yes—she was not very often in the room—I was never there.
COURT. Q. You never saw Wilmot till within a fortnight of the time he was taken? A. No—sometimes I did not see them for a day or two, and sometimes two or three time a day.
ALFRED SMEE. I am the author of a work entitled, "The Art of Working in Metals"—my attention has been particularly drawn to that subject—these articles produced are four voltaic batteries with wires, which have a plate of silver attached to one end of them, and zinc on the other—one end is bend, and has evidently received a deposit of silver—the object of this apparatus is to supply the voltaic force, to pass through a solution containing silver, and to deposit silver—these four cups would be for the purpose of receiving such a solution to deposit on any other metal—any metallic substance inserted in the solution, would be at once coated by this process with silver—the solution produced by the officer, stated to have been in the battery, contains a mixture od sulphuric acid and sulphate of zinc—the sulphate of zinc would arise in the action of the battery; sulphuric acid being required to charge the battery—the solution in the cup would produce the same effect, being acted upon by the voltaic battery—it contains silver—this sixpence, taken from Wilmot's hand, is evidently coated with silver so deposited—these three sixpences found in one of the cups have evidently been in
but a very short period—the process was just commencing—I cannot judge how long they had been subjected to the process, as that would depend on the strength of the charge—there is a greater deposit on the first sixpence than on these—they might have been put in at different times, or if put in at the same time, might have a different amount of silver on them—they are evidently base—the first is not silver (bending it)—I have torn off some of the silver, and the base metal underneath can be distinctly seen—I should think that sixpence could not have arrived at that stage in less than a quarter of an hour or ten minutes, but it is a doubtful point—the things produced are quite complete for the purpose of silvering base metal—I put one of the solutions into the of the batteries, and another into one of the cups, and put into it one of the half-crowns produced by Brannan, uncovered, and I got this distinct deposit of silver on it—these shillings are all covered with silver deposited by the voltaic agency—they are quite complete—judging from the solution not containing a large quantity of silver, I think the process must have been conducted rather slowly, at any rate a quarter of an hour, or even longer—I was about two hours casing the half-crown, but there was very little solution—these sixpences found on the table have been subjected to the same process—they are perfectly covered, and are very well done—they would of course be wet when taken out of the cup.
Wilmot's Defence. I am a shore-maker; I was directed by Alexander to come up to his place on Saturday morning for a pair of boots to repair; Alexander and another man were there; I told him I had come for the pair of boots; he said, "Very well, if you will wait here a few moments, I will go and fetch them;" he went out, and the other man immediately followed; I then looked about the room, and saw things which I did not think was right; I attempted to go out, but found the door fastened outside; the room was very close; I pulled my coat and hat off, and went to look at the table, when the policeman forced the door open, and seized me.
ALEXANDER*— GUILTY. Aged 32.— Transported for Fifteen Years.
WILMOT— GUILTY. Aged 28.— Transported for Ten Years.
NEW COURT.—Wednesday, May 17 th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. MUSGROVE; Mr. Ald. LAWRENCE, and Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Fifth Jury.
GUILTY .** Aged 18.— Confined for One Year.
GUILTY .* Aged 24.— Transported for Seven Years.
GUILTY .** Aged 28.— Confined One Year.
GUILTY .Aged 32.— Confined Three Months.
CHARLES EDMUND BAKER. The prisoner is my brother—we live with my mother, at 7, Bank Chambers—I had four sovereigns safe in a drawer in my mother's bed-room on 5th March—I missed them on the 6th—the prisoner was there.
JANE SOPHIA BAKER. I live at 7, Bank Chambers—the prisoner is my son—he dined with me on 6th March—I messed him after dinner, about three o'clock, and directly missed the key of my bed-room—I have not seen it since—no one was in the house but my servant, and she never left the room—I found the door open, and missed the money.
GUILTY. Aged 21.— Confined Nine Months.
FRANCIS SUTER. I am in William Fryer's employ, and the prisoner was also—on 1st May I stopped him, and found about 1 lb. of cigars in his hat, and 1/2 lb. in his pocket—they corresponded with Mr. Fryer's—I believe they are his.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did you say it would be better for him to tell the whole truth? A. Yes.
(The prisoner received a good character, and a witness engaged to employ him.)
GUILTY. Aged 24.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Two Months.
SHIP** pleaded GUILTY . Aged 49.— Transported For Seven Years.
JAMES BRIDGER (policeman.) Between eight and nine o'clock on Saturday evening I was on duty at Enfield-highway, and saw Challis handing a sack over Mr. knight's fence to Ship—he dropped it six yards from the fence—I took him—Challis jumped over the fence and passed us towards his house—I called for assistance—Serjeant Watkins came up—this is the sack; it was three parts full.
Cross-examined by MR. MELLER. Q. Did Ship say" Take Challis; he is guilty?" A. He said "I should not have done it but for Challis"—I knew them both in Mr. Knight's employ—I was twelve yards from them—there is no hedge where they were, only a fence—Challis jumped over as soon as Ship received it, and before I took him—I said nothing when he passed me—I took Challis on Sunday morning—I searched for him that night, but did not go to his house.
Cross-examined. Q. Has not Challis borne a good character? A. Yes; he has been two years with me.
GUILTY.Aged 22.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Three Months.
WILLIAM KING. I am a solicitor, at 27, Lincoln'-inn Fields. on 11th April I was in Holborn—I felt something at my pocket, turned round, and saw the prisoner putting something into his pocket—I took him, and took my handkerchief from his pocket.
Prisoner's Defence. I said I picked it up.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 14.— Confined Ten Days and Whipped.
SAMUEL BUNYAN. I live at 2, Bremer's-court. Sunday morning I met the prisoner in Barbican—she asked where I was going—I said "Home"—she asked me to go with her—I said no—I Felt her hand in my pocket—I had a sovereign there and missed it, and gave her in charge.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Was it raining? A. No; it had been, she was not standing out of it—I asked her no question—I walked about 100 yards with her after losing the sovereign—I said nothing about it—I did not want to ** in King's-head-court—she cried "Police," but it was because I would not let her go—I gave her nothing—I was not with her five minutes—I was not drunk, I had only had a pint of beer.
Cross-examined. Q. She told you he gave her some coppers? A. Yes, and that she put them into her bosom, and the sovereign must have been with them and slipped down under the band of her petticoat—her pocket was at her side—she is very stout—it would ne difficult to put the sovereign there, but it would easily slip down.
Cross-examined. Q. she called "police?" A. Yes; she did not say he was doing anything to her—he was quite sober.
GUILTY. Aged 35.— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY . Aged 26.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined One Month.
ELIZA BURRELL. I am saleswoman to Mr. vaughan. On 27th April, between one and two o'clock, the prisoners came to the shop and asked for some galloon—I showed them a yard and a-half—they asked to look at same black lace—they selected seven or eight lengths—this lace(produced) was in the same box, but was not unrolled while they were there—I did not sell them that—I did not miss it till the policeman brought it two days afterwards.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. what did they pay for the
lace? A. I think 8s. 6d.—the lace here is worth between 4l. and 5l.—we sell it at 4s. 6d. a yard—we buy it of travellers and wholesale houses—other people do so also—I missed three cards of it—I know they were there—I took them up to show to the prisoners—all of this pattern was gone—several other persons sell—no one but me served the prisoners—we only enter in the shop books the amount taken—I have not heard from the shopwoman that they were purchasing at the shop the next day—they had purchased of me the day before.
JOHN SPITTLE (City-policeman). on 27th I followed the prisoners and another woman for three quarters of an hour, and took them on Finsburypavement at five o'clock—I searched the prisoners at the station—Chark had a basket containing this lace.
Cross-examined. Q. They had 7s. 6d. had not they? A. Yes; Clark said she used the lace in her business.
MR. BALLANTINE called
MARY CANNON. My husband is a bricklayer, at 11, Forster-street, City. I know Clark, she makes dresses and visites, which are made with lace and fringe—I sold her 13 yards of lace of this kind—it came to 2l. 3s. 6d.—I serve shops with lace—I sell it for the travellers at 1s. in the pound commission—the last I sold to Clark was about a month ago.
SARAH JAMES. I was with the prisoners about a quarter to one o'clock on the day they were taken—I wore this dress and a black crape bonnet—I was not with them when they were taken, as I went in to buy this bonnet in Bishopsgate-street—here is the bill of it.
JOHN SPITTLE re-examined, James is not the woman I saw with the prisoners—the woman had a black dress, but I think a light bonnet—she was much taller than James—I did not see her enter a bonnet-shop—it was about a quarter to one o'clock.
CLARK†— GUILTY. Aged 26.
JONES†— GUILTY. Aged 36.
Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 29.— Transported for Ten Years.
GUILTY .**— Confined Six Months.
LEWIS LAZARUS. I am a clothier, at Houndsditch. The prisoner came to my shop—Levy told me, in his presence, he had sold him a suit or clothes—he did not take them away, but returned afterwards for them—I sent Levy with them, and told him not to leave them without the money.
GODFREY LEVY. On 8th May the prisoner came to Mr. Lazarus—I selected some clothes for him—he said he was going to Austin-friars, to receive some money—he returned in an hour—Mr. Lazarus told me to take the clothes, and receive 2l. 10s.—I went to the house, and was told to go into the kitchen—I was there half an hour—the prisoner beckoned me up stairs, and asked me to go to a public-house—I would not—I waited there—he left the room—I went down stairs, and the clothes were gone—I asked a young woman
where they were, and where the man was whom they were for—she said the man was gone to sea that afternoon—I said, "Where is the man who bought them?"—While I was talking, the prisoner came down—I asked him where the clothes were, and where the man was whom they were for—he said, "I do not know; he is very likely gone to the public-house; if you will come we shall see him perhaps"—we went out—I told a policeman, and gave the prisoner in charge—the clothes were sold to the prisoner—he said, "I have not got the money now; I have a partner, and I will give you 15s. now, if you will take my writing for the remainder."
Prisoner's Defence. Mr. Lazarus dragged us into the shop, and wished us to buy clothes, and took the man's clothes off, and put others on; he sent me out for some gin; the man was to sail on Friday, and as soon as he received his money I was to have it; I left a note of hand in the shop, and Lazarus spelled his name to me.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
MARY THEODORE. I am single, and live at James-street, Commercial-road I was on board the Datchet steamboat, which goes from Westminster to London-bridge—I had a blue silk purse, containing a sovereign, a half-crown, and two shillings, all in one end—a gentleman told me something, I missed it, and spoke to the prisoner—he offered me a sovereign to say nothing about it.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Was the boat full? A. Pretty full—I have not seen the gentleman since.
CATHERINE TURNER. I was with Theodore—there was a cry of a robbery, and the prisoner immediately threw a blue silk purse overboard—he said he would give her a sovereign rather than be given in charge.
Cross-examined. Q. Were there many persons about you? A. Few—I have not seen the gentleman since—I saw him speak to Miss Theodore—he said he saw the prisoner he called out—I saw the prisoner's hand rise and throw it over—it was not the gentleman's
GUILTY.*† Aged 21.— Transported for Ten Years.
MR. LAURIE conducted the Prosecution.
ELLEN BARRATT. I am the wife of Thomas Barratt, of Blackfriar's-road. About six o'clock, on 12th May, we were crossing Blackfriar's-bridge—I felt a pressure, and saw the prisoner throw my purse over the balustrades of the bridge—I believe it had 3s. or 4s. in it—this is it—(produced.)
Prisoner. You said at Guildhall you never saw me take it; a woman said she saw me take it, and then you said you saw me chuck it over. Witness. A lady told me I had been robbed.
THOMAS BARRATT. I am a stationer in Blackfriar's-road. I was going over the bridge, a lady said my wife had been robbed, and pointed out the prisoner—I seized him—he threw the purse over the bridge—I knew it well—I am sure it was hers.
EDWARD JONES (City policeman, 330.) On Saturday morning, 13th April, I made a search by the of the bridge—I found this purse on the sand, about the center of the last arch—here are three rings and a tassel on it.
GUILTY.* Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years.
ELIZABETH DUMMER. I live in Clarendon-square, Somers'-town—I am single. I had 11s. 6d. in a glove in my pocket, on 20th April—I was looking at a horse, and missed my glove and money—it was safe five minutes before—this is it.
HENRY BROWN (City policeman, 356.) On 20th April a horse fell down in Skinner-street—the prosecutrix was looking at it—the prisoner put his left hand into her pocket, and took it out again—I took his—he dropped this glove and money at his feet.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Where were you? A. Close behind him—nobody was between me and him—I saw the glove in his hand.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 13.— Confined Ten Days, and Whipped.
MESSRS. BODKIN and HUDDLESTON Conducted the Prosecution.
CHARLES THOMAS GAYLER (City policeman, 348.) On 12th April I received information, and took the prisoner in Thames-street—I asked where he got those deals which were at Mr. Graham's wharf at a Trigg-stairs—he said he brought them up for some persons who were repairing at Paul's Wharf—I went with him there, and asked Mr. Catmore if he desired the prisoner to fetch them—he said, "No, and said to the prisoner, "You are a bad lot, Joe," or words to that effect—he then said two strange men hired him the day before to fetch them from Lavender-dock—he took me to Globewharf, Rotherhithe—there was no one there—the wharf was to let—he showed me where he said the deals were tied (pointing to some camp sheeting)—I asked where Lavender-dock was—he said it was a little way back—I went to a wharf adjoining Globe-wharf—I asked a man there if he had seen any deals lying there the day before—he said, "No"—I brought the prisoner back to Lavender-dock, and examined a dummy which he pointed out—I saw no new work about it—I asked a man at work there if he had seen any men repairing the dummy—he said nothing had been done to it for some time—the prisoner said he was employed by those men to fetch the deals.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Are those men here? A. No—the prisoner did say the boards belonged to a man who was repairing a boat at Paul's-wharf—he went very quietly with my to these different places—I think he said he was to have half-a-crown, that he was to see the man on Wednesday morning.
JOHN LEWIS (Thames-police inspector.) I saw the prisoner on the morning after he was in custody—he said a bargeman hired him to bring them from Lavender-dock, and was to give him half-a-crown, that he borrowed a
skiff from Mrs. Needham, at Paul's wharf, and he brought the deals in it, and followed one of the Thames-police boats all the way—I found that was false.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you go to him when he was in custody, and ask him question? A. Yes—the persons are not here from the Thamespolice boat—it was our shifting time—we have two boats on that station.
HENRY MASON. I am watchman at Mr. Graham's iron-wharf. I was there on Wednesday morning, 12th April, at half-past five—I saw the prisoner bringing some deals up the stairs from a skiff—they were not in it, but on the ground—there were three flooring boards and two rough boards—he laid them down adjoining my master's wharf—he went down, jumped into his boat, and went of—I saw the same deals afterwards taken into my master's warehouse.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you speak to the man? A. No; he said to me, it was rather a wet job and he would rather be without it—they were wet as if they had been towed—it had been raining for hours, but they must have been towed by their size and weight—I think they were too long to lie in the boat.
SAMUEL FAIRMAN. I am a labourer in the employ of Messrs. Calvert and Co. The deals and boards are theirs—they were on their wharf, under a shed, about thirty yards from the river, near the edge of the wharf—I missed three flooring boards and two deals, on Wednesday, 12th April, at five o'clock in the afternoon—I saw them safe at three o'clock the day before.
Cross-examined. Q. How do you know them? A. Two are grooved, three are not.
HENRY BAWN. I have seen one of the boards with my name on it—it is Messrs. Calvert's—I have left there twelve months—I put my name on them more than twelve months ago—I have not seen it again till I saw these in custody—it was marked "For brewery"—I marked a great many others at that time—I have not marked one of this sort since—I do not recollect marking any for some time before.
Cross-examined. Q. How do you know them? A. By the mark, and the way they are prepared—I saw them every day—there were 500 or 600 of them—this is the Government mark, or the ship's mark.
FRANCIS COOPER. On Saturday, 8th April, I was employed by Mr. Catmore to repair a barge at Paul's Wharf—I saw the prisoner there on Monday and Tuesday walking about—On Wednesday I was at work at in the barge, and he spoke to me—on the Thursday morning I was in the cabin at breakfast—he came and said, "I want you a minute or two"—I walked out of the cabin—he said, "I brought this stuff, and put it in Trigg-stairs; they have put it in the Iron wharf, and they won't let me have it till the person comes who owns it"—I said it was no use to me, it was not mine—my master was gone for some stuff, but it was old stuff, thirty-three feet long—he said he should get into a b—row if he did not get it away from the watchman, and if a person would go and own it he could get it away—he wanted me to say it was mine, and I thought this was what my master had sent—directly I saw it, I said it was not mine—mine was old—I had marked it the day before.
Cross-examined. Q. This is your first appearance, is it not? A. Yes—the policeman came to me with the prisoner, and I told him of it in the Prisoner's presence.
April—I went to look after some timber for him—I returned, and heard what had taken place between him and the prisoner—I saw some timber there—it was not what I had sent.
MRS. NEEDHAM. I did not lend the prisoner my skiff that morning.
Cross-examined. Q. Had you lent it him before? A. Yes.—I have known him from back—he was in my service many years, and had a good character.
MR. BODKIN. Q. Do you know of his been in prison? A. I heard he was when he was quite a lad.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 25.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 34.— Confined Four Months.
GUILTY . Aged 29.— Confined Four Months.
GUILTY. Aged 16.— Confined Three Months.
WILLIAM NORTON. I live at Cowley. I employed the prisoner to work for me—these sixty-six chair legs, and this timber are mine—they were safe about five o'clock in the evening of 13th May—they were missed about six—I was not at home till about seven—the prisoner was authorised to sell them.
Cross-examined by MR. CARTER. Q. Did you employ the prisoner to make these chair legs? A. Yes—he is a turner—he was in the habit some months ago of buying materials of me to make up—that he has not continued to the present time—I changed that course of dealing about Sept. last—I made an arrangement then that he was to work for me, and I was to pay him 1s. a gross for working these chair legs up—we have not settled for some time—I was very anxious to get rid of him altogether—I let him part of shed in my yard—he had no wood there—my chaise stands in part of the shed—these articles were in the yard, not in the shed.
JOSHUA TURTON (policeman, T 93.) I was employed to watch the prosecutor's yard—I saw a man come about eight o'clock on Saturday morning—he bid the prisoner 7s. 6d. for a gross of legs—when the prisoner's wife came to bring him his tea, he took these legs from the wall, and took them into Mr. Norton's shed—his wife said, "What did you chuck these here for?"—he said, "I want you to pack up five dozen and a half, and put them into a
sack, and some rubbish with them—they were packed up, and tied in the sack, a layer of rubbish and then a payer of legs—two pieces of beech laid under the bench, and they were laid on the barrow and the sack—the prisoner wheeled them off—I took him and the property—this is it.
Cross-examined. Q. Where were you? A. In the lower part of the chimney of my house, which adjoins the premises held by the prisoner—I saw through a hole—I could see distinctly into the shed—there was no concealment between the prisoner and the man—I heard the price of the legs in the yard where this conversion took place—I did not hear the person make an appointment to come again—I went from my lurking-place, and seized the sack—the wife said there was nothing but rubbish in it—the prisoner afterwards said he was going to take them home to show to a man.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 30.—Recommended to mercy by Jury— Confined Two Months.
OLD COURT.—Thursday, May 18th, 1848.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Fourth Jury.
1248. JOHN ARTHUR KEELING , breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Job Capell, and stealing 23 sovereigns, 4 half-sovereigns, and other moneys, of said Job Capell; having been before convicted; to which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Ten Years.
(There was another indictment against the prisoner.)
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined One Year.
1250. JAMES TROWER , stealing 1 cash-box and 1 pocket-book, value 11s.; and 9 sovereigns, and other moneys, the property of Gaynor Owen and another, his mistresses; in the dwelling-house of William Read; and JOSEPH POWIS feloniously receiving 14s. 6d., part of the same; to which.
TROWER pleaded GUILTY .
Aged 18.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Six Months.
GAYNOR OWEN. I am a milliner, in partnership with my sister, and live in the house of William Read, in the parish of St. James' Westminster—Trower was errand-boy there. On Friday night, 21st April, I missed my cash-book with a bill of exchange for 76l., nine sovereigns, some half-sovereigns, some silver, and two old crowns in it—it was safe on the drawing-room table the night before—this is it(Produced)—the money has been found, expect a shilling or so.
ROBERT CHIGLEY (policeman.) I spoke to Tower, and then went into a value at Mr. Read's, and found a bill of exchange, a pocket-book, and two crowns—I took Powis, and told him that I wanted that money—he said "What money?"—I said, "The money Trower gave you"—he said, "He gave it to me to mind," and gave me 9l. 14s. 6d.
POWIS— NOT GUILTY.
Before Mr. Baron Alderson.
MESSRS. BODKIN and BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.
ARTHUR KEENE. I live at 11, Page-street, Westminster, and am employed in the Royal Engineering department. On Sunday morning, 16th April, between twelve and one o'clock, I was in Regent-street, westminster, which is to the west of the Abbey—I had just got to the corner of Vincent-street when I heard a slight cry, like a female screeching—I went down Vincent-street, in the direction of the scream—I passed down on the right hand side, with my right hand to the houses—when I arrived at the centre of the street I saw a figure at the further end, which was very dark—I proceeded towards it—when I crossed to the other side I lost the figure—it turned out to be the prisoner—the first I saw was the figure of a female lying on the ground—I could not tell whether the other figure I saw was a male or female, but I judge it to be the figure of the prisoner—it was standing at the farthest end of the street—I went on towards that figure, and on going towards it I found the woman on the way—she was lying near the kerb, on the horse-road, with her feet towards the foot-path—she was lying on her front, with her face buried in the ground—her bonnet was on the ground, and her face under it—the prisoner was standing about two or three yards from her—he was standing between a gateway leading to a court and a post—there was no one there but him—I asked him what he had been doing to her—he made no answer—the woman was lying on the ground at that time—I asked the prisoner whether she was his wife, and why he did not go and assist her, or something to that effect—after a little while he want over towards her, then turned round and said to me, "I have stabbed her; I have killed her with this knife;"at the same time exhibiting a knife to me—before he said that to me, as he passed over to go towards her, I heard him say, "Maria!"—I am not certain whether he said" Get up," but he mentioned her name distinctly; and while I was speaking to him previous to that, she raised herself on her arms a few inches, and dropped again instantly into the same position—I looked round for assistance, but could not see any one—I did mot go to the woman at all—my first impression was to go to her assistance, and my next was to take care of myself—I wished to keep myself from being implicated in it, as there was nobody there but the prisoner and I—there was but one lamp in the street—I got the prisoner towards that—it was on the opposite side—I moved towards it, and he came with me—I then saw his face—I did not take hold of him—I asked him again what he had done to her, and he again said he had killed her, he had stabbed her with that knife—I then went to the corner of Regent-street, gave as alarm, and returned with the police and others to the place where I had left the female lying—she was still lying there—she never moved afterwards—I cannot tell whether she was alive or not—the prisoner was gone.
Cross-examined by MR. SERJEANT WILKINS. Q. What distance could you see, so as to distinguish any object by the light that there was there? A. The distance from where I saw the figure might be perhaps 100 feet—I could not then discern what it was—I saw it move—there was no noise whatever—I did not see the woman's face at all—I did not go near her, so as to smell her breath.
April, I was on duty in Regent-street, Westminster, and heard a cry of "Police!" in consequence of which I went to Vincent-street, and saw Keene there—in consequence of what he said, I went down the street to where a female was lying—the prisoner was not there, or anybody—I lifted the female up—she was then not quite dead—I observed a wound under her collar-bone in the left breast—I carried her to Mr. Pearce, the surgeon of the division, and by the time we got there she was quite dead.
Cross-examined. Q. Had you known her before? A. No.
WILLIAM SKATE (policeman, B)157. on the morning of 16th April about twenty-five minutes past twelve o'clock, I was going down Page-street leading into Regent-street, Westminster—when I got into Regent-street I saw the prisoner and deceased—I knew them both before—I bid them good night, and the prisoner said, "Good night"—I said, "Then you are getting towards home?"—he said, "Yes"—they went on together towards Vincent-row, where the prisoner lived—he worked at Messrs. Thorne's, the brewers—I passed on on my beat in another direction—about twenty minutes to one I had a communication made to me, and went to Mr. Pearce's, the surgeon, and found the same woman there that I had seen with the prisoner—she was lying on her back, dead—I afterwards went with Inspector Cumming towards Vincent-row, and met the prisoner in the custody of another constable.
Cross-examined. Q. Had you known the woman for same time? A. Yes—she was a prostitute—about 24th or 25th March she and the prisoner were in custody, charged by another constable with being drunk and disorderly—I was gaoler at that time—she was not violent when under the influence of liquor—I never heard either of them have an angry word with any one—she was drunk this night, but not to say reeling drunk—they appeared to be in a very good humour when I saw them on the 16th—they were walking side by side, not arm-in-arm—I did not notice that the prisoner's coat was torn when I saw him in custody.
MR. BALLANTINE. Q. When the deceased was charged with being drunk was the prisoner also charged? A. Yes—I helped to take her body to the dead-house—it was afterwards seen by her father.
ABRAHAM WRIGHT (policeman, B 10.) I heard of the death of this woman early on Sunday morning, and saw her body carried to Mr. Pearce's, and afterwards to the dead-house—in consequence of what was told me I went to 8, Vincent-row, where the prisoner lived with his father—I got there about two o'clock, and his father showed me the room in which his son was—I found him asleep in bed—I awoke him, and he asked what we wanted—he did nit know me, but he knew the constable who was with me, and he said to him, "What did you want, Harry?"—the constable said, "You have been ill-using Maria"—he said he had not—he was told a second time that he had, and that he must get out of bed—he got up and sat on the side of the bed, and then asked, "Is she dead?"—I said she was dead—he asked a second time, "is she dead?" and I said she was—he then asked where she was—I said she was in the dead-house at St. Margaret's workhouse—he then put up his hands, as he sat on the side of the bed, and exclaimed, "Oh my God! I have done for her"—he appeared very much excited, and I took the precaution to search his clothes before he put them on and in the right hand jacket pocket I found this knife (producing it)—it is marked with blood, as I took it from him—he then dressed himself, and we took him into custody, and took him to the station—in going there we passed the spot where the body had been lying, and when we got within a few yards of the spot be stopped and exclaimed, "Oh God! I cannot go by here, for she stands looking
at me"—we persuaded him to go on; and as soon as we got by the spot he said, "There, now I will go with you anywhere"—before we got to the station he sad, "The knife has done it for her, and the rope will do it for me."
COURT. Q. Did he appear to have been drinking? A. Yes I think he had.
HENRY WRIGHT (policeman, B 133.) I was in company with the last witness when the prisoner was taken into custody—just as we got to the place where the female was found, he said, "Oh, my God, I cannot go by there!"—we persuaded him to go along, and when we got round the corner he sad, "I can go now;" and he said, "The knife has done it for her, and the rope will do it for me;"—he said, "Oh, that soldier! perhaps he will he sorry for it now."
Cross-examined. Q. Did you go to his father's house? A. Yes—I told him he had been quarreling with Maria—I concluded from finding her dead that they had been quarreling, it was nothing more.
COURT. Q. When was it that he said, "Oh, that soldier! perhaps he will be sorry for it now?" A. After we had passed the spot where the body had been found—the station is in Rochester-row, Vincent-square.
WILLIAM CUMMING (police-inspector B.) I met Sergeant Wright, with the prisoner in custody, in Vincent-row—the prisoner exclaimed, "Oh, Sir, I have done it; you did not know what I have suffered for some time!"—I accompanied them to the station, and entered the charge against him—I read it to him—he made no answer, but shook violently—I then took him into my own room, and searched his person and dress—on the palm of his left hand and two fingers I found marks of blood, and on the fingers of the right hand—while I was searching him, the prisoner put a lump of tobacco out of his mouth into his left hand—I said to Mr. Keene, who stood by, "This is blood," alluding go the marks on his right hand, and the prisoner said, "No, it is tobacco juice."
Cross-examined. Q. Did you notice his coat at all? A. I did not
HARRIET DOWLING. I am the wife of Daniel Dowling, of Dacre-street, Westminster. On Sunday evening, 16th April, I was shown the body of a female in St. Margaret's workhouse—it was the body of a person whom I had known before, by the name of Maria Eddons—she had occupied one of my rooms nine weeks before, and the prisoner was in the habit of sleeping with her—he cohabited with her there—he slept there the first night and the last night, which was the 14th April, the Friday before the murder—he only came there of an evening—he took no meals there that I am aware of—the deceased was a very sober person—I never saw her tipsy—they seemed to live very happily indeed—on the Friday evening they had a few words, but very trifling—they did not seem to be in any anger—I remember his saying something concerning Newgate, but I did not recollect the words—I did not hear any more threats, nor any threats indeed—I merely passed through the yard and in again—they lived in the back apartment—I have been examined before—I cannot say any more than I have said—I heard him say something about Newgate, and she only laughed—that was all I heard—I took no particular notice of it.
COURT. Q. Did the prisoner visit her at times? A. Often of an evening, and went away again—I cannot say how many nights he slept there—they lived there as man and wife—the young woman took the place, and told me she had a husband, and that he was a brewer—he came the same evening, and they seemed to be very comfortable together.
MARTHA EDWARDS. I live at 5, Cottage-court, Orchard-street, Westminster. I knew the deceased Maria Eddons, and also know the prisoner—I have seen them together several times—I recollect being at the New Star and Crown public-house, in the Broadway, Westminster, on the Friday evening before Maria's death—the prisoner was there, and a soldier named William Brown, and Maria—I have heard the prisoner say that he would make Maria his wife as soon as it laid in his power, if she would give the soldier up; and I have heard her say that she would not give the soldier up, that she would be with the soldier until the prisoner did make her his wife—nothing of that sort was said on the Friday evening, it was previous to that that I heard it—on that Friday evening I saw Maria go out of the public-house about twenty minutes to ten o'clock, with the soldier, leaving the prisoner there—I heard the prisoner ask her where she was going, and she said she was only going down to the bar, she would not be many minutes—she then went out with the soldier—she was gone about three quarters of an hour—when she returned the prisoner had left—she went away, came back, and asked me if the prisoner was up stairs—I told her no—she crossed the road to the other public-house, and came back, and told me he was there—she appeared to have been searching for him—the prisoner afterwards came to the Star with her, and I saw them go home together—they then seemed on very good terms—I saw them there again on the Saturday evening, from nine till about ten minutes to twelve, at the same public-house—the soldier was not there that evening—I saw them quit the house together about ten minutes to twelve—they then appeared to be on the beat of terms—I did not hear any quarreling or difference at all that night—I did not see Eddons alive again after that.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you notice what they drank on Saturday evening? A. Chiefly porter—they had some gin and cloves.
COURT. Q. Were they forward in liquor when they went away? A. They had both been drinking freely—I cannot say that the drink had made any impression on them—they did not appear to be drunk—by drunk, I mean not capable of taking care of themselves.
GEORGE PEARCE. I live at 5, Regent-street, Westminster, and am surgeon to the B division of police. On 16th April, at one o'clock in the morning, the body of the deceased was brought to my surgery—she was quite dead—I found she had a wound on the left side of her breast, just below the collar-bone—I afterwards found it had penetrated the pericardium, and wounded the pulmonary artery—that must have produced immediate death—the wound might have been inflicted with this knife—it was nearly four inches deep, and must have been inflicted with considerable force—on making a post-mortem examination, I discovered an aperture in the chemise corresponding with the wound in the body.
RICHARD EDDONS. I work at Kensal-lodge, and live at Rifle-cottage, Hammersmith. I had a daughter named Maria—I had not seen her for twelve months last Dec.—she was twenty-seven years old last Christmas.
(Stephen Bell, principal brewer in the employment of Messrs. Thorne, of Horseferry-road, with whom the prisoner had lived five years; and John Comley and Walter Scott, also on the same employment, deposed to the prisoner's character for humanity, kindness of disposition, and general good conduct.)
GUILTY. Aged 25.—Strongly recommended to mercy by the jury on account of his character. — DEATH .
Before Mr. Baron Alderson.
NEW COURT.—Thursday, May 18th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. RECORDER; Mr. Ald. MUSGROVE; and Mr. Ald.LAWRENCE.
Before Mr. Recorder and the Sixth Jury.
1253. THOMAS WARD, embezzling 3l. 4d.; also stealing 14 yards of satinette, value 3l. 3s.; also 12 pairs of stockings, 4l.; the good of Richard Hodge and others, his masters; to all of which he pleaded
GUILTY .Aged 38.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined One Month.
GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 43.— confined Three Months.
ALGERNON FOGGO I live in Pelham-place, Brompton. On Wednesday, 29th March, I was by Knightsbridge barracks—Barrier asked me if I had lost anything—I missed my handkerchief, which was a buff colour—I have never seen it since.
SARAH ANN BARRIER. I am widow of George charles Barrier. I was sitting at my window, and saw a young man take a handkerchief out of Foggo's pocket—there were two persons behind the young man—my husband ran out and spoke to Foggo—I saw him struggle with the man—his two companions rescued hom, and took the handkerchief from his hat—my husband took him again on the spot—I think the prisoner is the man—I cannot say positively—the prisoner was remanded for me to see him—I went—Barrier was there, and the prisoner was in charge.
CHARLES MASON. I am a licensed victualler, at Well-street, Whitechapel. On 29th March I was at the Lass of Gowrie beer-shop at Shadwell—I saw a scuffle—my hat was knocked off—Doig was there—after I got home I missed a watch from my waistcoat pocket—I had it when I entered the beer-shop—this is it, and this chain and two seals—I also lost a small gold watch without a chain—I had just got it from the watchmaker.
Doig. Q. in what part of the house was I? A. Down stairs—you sat next to me, and asked me several questions.
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. What time was this? A. About nine in the evening when I went—I staid some time, till Mrs. Mason fetched me away—I am in the public line—I had been talking to Doig about a quarter of an hour before the scuffle—there was a quarrel before I came down stairs—I did not interpose in the scuffle—it did not last many minutes—they went away directly afterwards—I did not stay more than ten minutes afterwards—I was drinking up stairs with a gentleman named M'Gregor—the landlord was up stairs and his housekeeper—I was not making love to any girls—they were not sitting on my knee.
FREDERICK JOHN WOOD. I am a pawnbroker, at St. George's-street—this watch, chain, two seals, and key, were pawned with me—all the prisoners were in the shop at the time—the watch was first brought by Burden, and the chain and seals by Hillman—I refused to take them in—Hillman said the chain and seals were left with her by a man who was at home to pay for a bed at her house, and the watch had been left with the girl—I said if they would bring him up, and he convinced me they belonged to him, I would take them in—they went away and came with Doig—he described them, and said he bought them of a captain in the North—he gave me the name of the vessel—I believed him, and took them in—I gave Burden 1l. for the watch, and Hillman 3s. for the chain and seals—Doig asked Burden to give him some money—she told him not to be in a hurry.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Hillman said the man was waiting outside for some of the money, did she not? A. Yes.
WILLIAM CHARLES POTTER (policeman, H 212.) I went to Hillman's—her house is about 100 yards from the beer-shop, and asked her where she got the watch from—she said it was all right, it belonged to a young man up stairs—I went up and found Burden in bed—she said Doig gave her the watch—he was on the stairs, and said he did not—I found two duplicates of the watch and chain between the pillow and bed.
JOHN GARDNER. I keep the Lass of Gowrie, High-street, Shadwell—I saw Mason come down stairs and go into the tap-room—Doig and Burden were there—I saw Mason sitting on a chair by the fire—Burden went and sat on his knee, or he took her on his knee, when I looked round she was sitting there—she sat there about ten minutes—Mason was very drunk, but I think not so as not to be able to tell whether anybody was sitting on his knee.
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. You had been drinking with him? A. No—I was attending to my bar—I tasted with him occasionally when I went up stairs—I tasted with the persons who were up stairs, not with the persons down stairs—Mr. M'Gregor was up stairs—Mason was there from about four o'clock till half-past eleven—I cannot tell whether he was tasting all that time—he was the worse for drink when he came, and very much worse when he went—I did not turn him out—the only scuffle I saw was when I went to shut my house up—Burden was very unwilling to go—I turned her out at twelve—Doig left about a quarter of an hour before that—he was not drunk.
CHARLES MASON re-examined. I do not believe anybody sat on my knee for ten minutes, I should say it is a mistake of the landlord's this is one of the watches I lost—this is the chain and seals; they are complete, with the exception of the gold ring which was attached to the watch—I have never seen the gold watch since.
Doig's Defence. I went home with a girl, and went with her in the morning to pawn her watch; she asked me to say it was mine.
BURDEN— GUILTY . Aged 25.
DOIG— GUILTY . Aged 35.
Recommended to mercy by the Jury.— Confined Six Months.
HILLMAN— NOT GUILTY.
MR. COOPER conducted the prosecution.
JOSEPH CHURCH (policeman, D 129.) On 21at April, about half-past five o'clock in the morning, I saw the prisoner Julien in Paddington-street—I lost sight of him, and soon after saw Claridge standing at Mr. King's slaughter. house door, in Woodstock-street—Julien came out of the slaughter-house with a bundle under his arm—I followed him and took him—I asked what the bundle contained—he said, "A few bits"—I examined it, found in it an edgebone of beef, two pieces of mutton, and piece of lamb—he said, "For God's sake let me go, forgive me this time, I will never do it again!"—I took him to the station.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Do they begin business early at that slaughter-house? A. Not so early as seven o'clock—it is attached to Mr. King's house—He has other men beside Claridge—I did not see them on the premises—I did not go into the slaughter-house—Claridge only stood at the door—he must have been Julien pass with the bag—I did not hear him speak to him.
CHARLES CHAMBERLAIN (policeman, D 96.) About half-past six o'clock in the morning of 21st April, I saw Claridge at the corner of High-street—I told him I was going to take him to the station—he asked what for—I told him about a men coming out of his master's slaughter-house with some meat—he said, "For God's sake don't say anything about it! you and I can square this with a little money"—at the station he said, "For God's sake don't say anything about it! I took the meat and gave it to Julien"—I had cautioned him.
THOMAS KING. I am a butcher, at Paddington-street. Claridge was in my employ upwards of five years—the meat was shown me by the policeman—two of the pieces I could swear to as mine—the others I believe to be mine—I had not given Claridge any right to sell meat, or give it away—my slaughter-house ought not be open so soon, except for getting the horse and cart out—all my other men were in bed.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Had he a right to be up? A. He had to get the horse and cart out—I had gone on the market, and he was coming after—he was not a salesman—he had occasionally sold meat, but only of an evening—I should not have been very angry if he had sold at a proper time in the morning—I had suspicions of him three years ago, from information given me, but I would not act on it—his family are respectable—he could not honestly have sold this meat to Julien.
(Juilen received a good character.)
JULIEN— GUILTY. Aged 30.
CLARIDGE— GUILTY. Aged 27.
Confined Three Months.
AMELIA MARIA SPARSHOTT . My husband is a cooper at Winchester. On the afternoon of 17th April, I was on board a Citizen steam-boat—the prisoner sat by my side about five minutes—he left, and I noticed my pocket was open—I put my hand to it, and missed my purse, which contained two half-sovereigns, four half-crowns, some odd silver, a crooked sixpence, and two other sixpences—my purse was safe when the prisoner first sat beside me—my pocket was on the side next him.
HENRY ROBERTS. I am an omnibus conductor. I was on board thin vessel, and took the prisoner below—he took from his waistcoat pocket four half-crowns, eight shillings, and two sixpences, which he said were his own—at Hungerford-pier he was given in charge—I gave the inspector the money at Bow-street—first of all he said he was a cigar-maker, than a porter, and then a jobber—first he said he lived one side of the water, and then the other. GEORGE HEATH. I am constable of Hungerford-pier—I received charge of the prisoner, and these four half-crowns eight shillings, and two sixpences (produced.)
AMELIA MARIA SPARSHOTT re-examined. I have had this crooked six pence in my pocket five or six years—I have no doubt about its being mine—I have not traced the two half-sovereigns or the purse—about five minutes elapsed between my charging the prisoner, and his being taken below—during that time he was standing at the side of the vessel, and might have got rid of the purse—the silver found is the exact amount of what I lost—the vessel was going from Nine Elms to Hungerford-market—the fare was twopence.
Prisoner's Defence. I was not near the lady, I was in the cabin.
GUILTY.† Aged 16.— Confined one year.
OLD COURT.—Friday, 19th May, 1848.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq., and the First Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Twelve Months.
ELIAS BENJAMIN . I am a clothier, in New Gravel-lane. On 9th March the prisoner brought me this advance note, and said he wanted it cashed, 2l. in money, and the rest in clothes—he looked out some clothes, and had 1l. 9s. in money—he was to come next morning, and take clothes to his ship—I never saw him again till the 24th April, when I gave him in charge—he
said he belonged to the Owen Gore, in the West India Docks—I went there, and there was no such ship—I also went to 9, Holland-street, Blackfriars, which was the address he gave, and there was no such person known there.
Prisoner. It was not I that brought you the note; it was, a friend of yours the recommended me to you to cash it. Witness. He came with another man—he took the the note out of his own pocket—he said he had signed articles, and got the note that morning.
GEORGE ROGERS (policeman.) The prosecutor gave the prisoner into my charge on 24th April. I asked him how he came to be so foolish as to do it—he said he did not, a shipmate gave it him—I asked where he was, he said, gone to sea—on the way to the station he said he knew it was wrong, but he had been drinking.—(The note being read, was dated March 9, 1848, for 3l. 5s., and signed James Frisk, Commander.)
Prisoner's Defence. I have been many years in the navy, and have several certificates from captains in her Majesty's service (producing them.)
GUILTY. Aged 60.— Confined Eight Months.
ELIZABETH WAKELING . I am single, and carry on business in Silver-street, Golden-square—William Mason was in my service fourteen months, In consequence of something I heard, I gave him into custody on 3rd May—I have seen James at my house—these brushes, brooms, and combs, are my property, and are marked with my name—I did not miss them—I did not sell them to the prisoner—they were kept in a glass-case in the shop—some of them are new.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Who sells things beside yourself? A. My nephew—he is not here—William said he found them in the cellar, mouldy, when I asked him how he came by them—James was not present
MISS WAKELING re-examined. I stopped his wages for three weeks, because he was late; but it was last month, not previous to Dec.
Mr. Justice COLTMAN delivered the following judgment:—"You were tried at a former Session, for an offence against the statute 6 and 7 Wm. IV, c. 86, and the substantial part of the charge against you was, that after the celebration of your marriage with your present wife, you knowingly and falsely made to the Clergyman, Mr. Hamilton, several false statements, for the purpose of being inserted in the register of marriages; and on your behalf there were two objections taken by your counsel—the first was, that there was no proof that the Registrar-General had furnished books for the purpose of the marriage register being effected; and it appears that there was no statement in the first count of the indictment, that the register-book in question was furnished by the Registrar-General. The Judges have taken that objection into consideration, and they are of opinion that it is not at all necessary that
the indictment should allege that the books had been furnished by the Registrar-General. The allegation in the indictment was, that the register was made in a certain book furnished to the Minister for that purpose; and the Judges are of opinion, that is sufficiently proved by the fact of the book being the book that had been furnished; whether by the Registrar-General of some other person, is for this purpose immaterial—therefore they are of opinion that that there is no weight in that objection. The second, and the more substantial objection in the case was, that as the entry in the register-book had been made by the clerk before the marriage, the false statement that you made for the purpose of being inserted in the register, was disproved, because the entry had already been made; but the Judges, upon considering that point, are of opinion, that at the time of the marriage, and previous to the marriage, although as entry had been made by the clerk in the register-book, yet that the registration must be the act of the clergyman, and that the matter is merely in fieri, in the process of making, until the clergyman has finally ascertained from the party to be married what is the truth, or the statement that he makes as true, with respect to the matters which the Act requires him to insert in the register; and therefore they think that you were properly convicted upon the charge of knowingly making a false statement for the purpose of being inserted in the register; the register being at that time in a state in was the duty of the clergyman, if an erroneous entry had been made, to rectify it, and to give a sanction and stamp to that registration by the asking of those questions and ascertaining what it was that the party meant to represent as being true. Under these circumstances the Judges were of opinion that the first count of this indictment was fully proved, and that you were properly convicted upon it.
SENTENCE—Confined Six Months.
Before Mr. Justice Coltman.
MR. BRIARLY conducted the Prosecution.
HANNAH MURPHY. I live at 1, Great St. Ann's-lane, Peter-street, Westminster. I have been married to the prisoner thirty-five years, and have nine children—he is a pensioner of 9d. a day, in the 37th regiment—on 2nd May he received a month's money—between seven and eight o' clock in the evening, I received some information, went to a house, and saw him sitting on a chair, with a woman on his knee, and a jug of beer at his feet—there was another man lying across the bed in the same room, and another woman, rolling about—I said nothing, but shut the door, and went out—I was then between asleep and awake—he locked the door, went to the fire-place took the poker, and struck me with it on the right side of my head—it bled a good deal—he also hit me all about the body, but I do not feel it much now—he did not say anything while he was doing it—he was very drunk—it was not much of a wound on my head—I was not sober—I had had ale and gin with him in the early part of the evening, and he brought me home in a cab, and I went to bed—I was a good deal intoxicated, and slept it off—I went out afterwards, and saw him as I have described—I remained in bed after receiving the blow—I was not capable of getting up—he had locked the door, and I did not know where he put the key—he got up at five o'clock, and I got up and followed him, and gave him into custody—I went to the hospital.
on the evening of 2nd May, I saw the prisoner and prosecutrix together, quarreling, and both very tipsy, at the street door—it began about the prisoner's sitting on a young woman's Knee—they stopped there till between one and two—Mr. Murphy was then sitting on the stairs, very tipsy—they went up stairs, and between two and three I heard Mrs. Murphy moaning—at five the prisoner came and knocked at the door, with Mrs. Murphy all in gore of blood.
RICHARD COUSINS (policeman.) On 3rd May I took the prisoner into custody—I afterwards went and examined their room, and found this poker (produced) at the foot of the bed, and there was a pool of blood at the head—there are marks of blood on the poker, and it is bent—there was a out on the woman's head just above the forehead.
HENRY BUTLER. I am surgeon at Westminster Hospital. On 3rd May I saw the prosecutrix—her face was very much discoloured with blood, and the whole of her hair—there was a large wound on the fore-part of her head at the right side—it penetrated to the bone, and uncovered it—it was a severe wound—it was not then bleeding much, but it had been—it would very probably be produced by this poker—I found some bruises on the left arm and side.
Prisoner's Defence. We have been married thirty-seven years, and have a large family; I have been thirty-four years in the employment of Mr. Alderman Johnson; I was never brought before a Court or Jury; we were both drunk.
1266. WILLIAM BANNISTER , stealing 1 watch, value 10l., the goods of Ann Thompason; 1 show 1l., the goods of Charlotte Warner; and 1 apron, 3d., the goods of Margaret williams; in the dwelling-house of Edward John Stanley.
MR. EWART conducted the Prosecution.
EBENEZER BENJAMIN CHESNAY. I am a teacher of dancing and music, and live in Belgrave-mews East, Grosvenor-crescent. On 26th April, between one and two o'clock, I was standing at the corner of Grosvenor-erescent, and saw two men standing in Halkin-street, whom I had seen come out of the mews where I live—I saw one run through the Church or chapel-yard, at the top of Belgrave-mews, and whistle with his fingers—he then ran through a bit of waste ground at the back of the chapel—I walked a few paces, and saw him look up to the top of the house, No. 2. Grosvenor-crescent—I looked up, and saw the prisoner come out of the middle attic window into the gutter—I am sure he is the man—I saw him feel in his pockets—I spoke to a person coming by, and noticed him some time, I saw him go along the gutters to No. 3 and 4, and try to open the windows of both houses—I called, "Police!" and immediately I did so the shrunk down in the gutter, and hid himself—I told the policeman what was going on—he crossed over, and we saw him come out of the gutter, and run along the parapet to No. 9, and get in at window—I went and got another Policeman.
Prisoner. Q. Can you swear to me at the top of six-story house? A. I can—I kept my eye on you from the moment you got out of No. 2 till you got in at No. 9—I am quite confident you are the man, from your height, make, and dress.
ISAAC SARGENT. I live at 6, Grosvenor-crescent, and have charge of Nos. 6, 7, and 9, which are empty house. On 26th April, about twenty minutes to one o'clock, in consequence of information, I went to No. 9 with the policeman—I did not hear any one about the premises, and came out
again—I went in again, and found nothing—I went in a third time, and then found the prisoner coming down the first flight of stairs—he was taken into custody—I asked him what business he had there—he said he had been to examine some chimney-pots—I asked him, "Who for?"—he said he did not know the gentleman's name—I asked who employed him—he said he was his own master, he was engaged to do the job—I afterwards searched the roof of No. 5, and found this shawl rolled up, and part of it stuffed into the mouth of a pipe leading to the gutter—I gave it to the policeman.
WILLIAM LOW. I am footman to Mr. Alexander Wood, of 5, Grosvenor-crescent. On 26th April, in consequence of what I heard, I went up to the back attic, and saw the lead pulled away from the side of the gutter at that window—I afterwards moved those pieces of lead, and out dropped a gold watch—I gave it to the policeman.
JOHN MARTIN (policeman B 36.) On Wednesday, 26th April, about one o'clock in the day, I was on duty at Grosveenot-crescent—the prisoner was pointed out to me on the roof of a house—I saw him go into No. 9—I went to the keeper of the house, went in, and found the prisoner on the second or third floor—the keeper of the house had been in before—I asked the prisoner what he was doing there—he said he was a sweep, employed to examine the chimneys—I asked who employed him—he said he did not know—I took him to the station—he there said he was a butcher—I took this apron from him—he said it was his own—this shawl (produced) was given me by Sergent, and this watch (produced) was handed to me by Conatty, a policeman, who is not here—I did not see him get it—I found 10s. 6 1/2d. in the prisoner's pocket.
WILLIAM LOWE re-examined. I cannot swear that this is the watch I fount, but the seal had a "D" on it, and so has this—the watch has the same appearance, and was fastened just in the same way, with a silk guard—Grosvenor-crescent is in the parish of St. George, Hanover-square.
ANN THOMPSON. I am in the service of the Hon. Edward John Stanley, of NO. 2, Grosvenor-crescent. This watch is mine, and is worth 10l.—on the morning of 26th April I left it in a drawer in my bed-room, which is one of the attics Warner, my fellow-servant—I have seen her wear it, and know it—this apron belongs to Margaret Williams, a fellow-servant.
Prisoner's Defence. As I was crossing Grosvenor-square a man stopped me, and asked if I would go and examine some chimneys, and he would give me 6d.; he took me to No. 9. out at the garret window, and told me to stop there; I waited a quarter of an hour: I looked out, and saw this apron lying in the street; I went down and picked it up; I went up to the house again, and staid there till the policeman and a mob of people came, and I was taken.
GUILTY. Aged 25.— Transported for Ten Years.
NEW COURT.—Friday, May 19th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. COPELAND, Mr. RECORDER, and Mr. Ald. MUSGROVE.
Before Mr. Recorder and the Fifty Jury.
1267. JAMES MARTIN , feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Henry Martin, and stealing 1 watch-key, 1 pencil-case, and other articles, value 5l. his property: having been before convicted; to which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined One Month.
GUILTY. Aged 17.— Confined three Months.
The witnesses did not appear.
HARRIET BRYAN. I keep a shop, for the sale of ready-made linen, in High-street, Camden-town—I have one partner. On 6th December the prisoner came and asked to look at some shirts—I showed him some; and be selected some, which were to be sent on sent on approbation to see whether they fitted—he said if he approved of them be would give me an order for half a dozen—he asked for some boys shirts for his brother, and if they fitted he would have half a dozen of them—they were all ready-made, they would not want anything doing to them—he asked me to send them, and to allow them to be left till Tuesday evening or Wednesday morning, which I agreed to do—I sent three or four gentleman's shirts, two boy's shirts and some collars, by my servant, Ann Humphreys—on the Wednesday morning, before I had sent for them back, the landlady of the house came and told me that they had left her apartment—I saw no more of the prisoner till he was in custody—the shirts were to be returned, and if they suited I was to make him self a dozen—I am quite sure that these were only sent to enable him to judge of the size and make—they were of different sizes.
Prisoner. I said I would keep them, and give an order for half a dozen, Witness. No; these were to be returned.
ANN CUNNINGHAM. I am the wife of Michael Cunningham, a tailor of No. 32. Arlington-street—at the latter end of November, or begging of December, the prisoner lived is my house, with two females whom he represented as his sisters—the prisoner did not lodge in house, he only came there to board—they staid three of four days, and went away on Wednesday evening without giving any notice, or paying for any thing—I did not see any shirt on the premises, but I saw some collars—they took them away with them.
HARRIET BRYAN re-examined. The prisoner said they were to be sent to No. 32, Arlington-street—there was no direction about how they were to be sent—he never complained that they had not reached him—he never came back, and never gave any other order.
Prisoner. I mentioned that I should keep them.
GUILTY. Aged 23.— Confined Three Months.
MR. RYLAND Conducted the Prosecution.
NELSON JOHN HOLLOWAY. I am a clock dealer. On 19th of June the prisoner came to my premises in John-street, Minories, about the middle of the day—he selected a clock, which he agreed to give 2l. for—he requested it to be sent home to No. 16, Queen's-row, Walworth, before eight o'clock in the evening, when he would be at home, and pay for it—it was decidedly understood between us that it was to be paid for on delivery—I did not mean to part with it unless it was paid for—I sent my servant, Howard, to carry the clock home (I think Howard had heard the bargain between the prisoner and me) and to receive the money—I will not undertake to say that on that particular occasion he was told so, but that was his general direction—he brought me back this memorandum instead of the money—I sent to the premises on the Monday or Tuesday following, and I was told the prisoner had absconded.
Prisoner. Q. When I was taken to the station did the officer say any thing to you? A. I do not remember. Child did not go behind me and say, "Mind, you sold it for ready money; not on credit"—nor did the inspector reprimand Child, and say that I ought to make my own statement—nothing of the kind—I said at Guildhall, that without reference to my book I could not say what day of the week it was—I did not say I could not state whether it was sold on credit—I did not say I could not tell whether it was you or not—I took the order myself—I did not write the invoice—you were there ten or often minutes—there were clocks of more value there—it was distinctly sold for cash, and agreed that it should be paid for—I did not say you might have it for six months, to prove the quality of it—it is American manufacture—thirty shillings is the price at which they are sold in quantities—to the best of my recollection I sent it to your place between six and seven o'clock—I did not say at the Mansion-house that it was eight—the man returned between eight and nine—I have no doubt that this invoice was sent, though I did not make it out—I have no doubt that this is the invoice (looking at it)—I believe it is in its original state—I think this was produced at the Mansion-house in the state it is in now—I sent another bill on the following Monday or Tuesday—I sent for the money or the clock back.
COURT. Q. Did you know any thing of the prisoner to have reason to trust him? A. Nothing whatever.
ALFRED HOWARD. I am porter to the prosecutor. On 19th June I took a clock to the prisoner's house, at Walworth—it is a private dwelling—I was present in Mr. Holloway's shop when the bargain was made—the prisoner came and looked at the clocks—he asked how they were sold—Mr. Holloway said 2l. each—the prisoner said, "They seen good ones; send this one home to my dwelling in the course of the evening"—I do not recollect the words exactly—I was at the other end of the shop—I did not hear any thing said about paying—I took the clock—I was not to leave it without the money—the prisoner was not at home when I first took it—I waited till he came in—he then went in the room and told me to hang it up—he asked if ir would go well—I said, "Yes; to the best of my knowledge"—I asked him for the money, and he said he would call and pay Mr. Holloway, if the clock was what it was represented to be—I said it was not a customary thing to leave the clock without the money, and if I did so I should be accountable for it myself—I asked him if he would give me a memorandum to say that he had received the clock and would call in two or three days, and he gave me this memorandum—this invoice is in my writing.
COURT. Q. Did you take the bill receipted? A. No; I generally give
the receipt when I am there—I might have done so on that occasion—on the back of this invoice there is a direction which is half torn through—I recollect now that was torn at the time—I had receipted it previously—I tore it off, and took the other part back with me—this is my writing, and the receipt was as well.
Prisoner. Q. How long did you wait for me? A. About a quarter of an hour—you did not tell me I might take the clock back—I will swear that—I did not say I was perfectly satisfied—I said I would leave the clock on my own responsibility—I did not say that as I made out the invoice myself I was not aware whether it was for ready money or on credit—I remember tearing the receipt off—you did not say any thing to persuade me to take the clock back—I did not say if you gave me a memorandum it would be all right—I said "Perhaps you will write a memorandum for me to show to Mr. Holloway."
COURT. Q. where did you hang the clock up? A. In the room on the ground floor.
JOHN SULLIVAN. In June last I was in Mr. Holloway's service—I remember this transaction on the 19th of June—I went on the Wednesday following to 6, Queen's row, Walworth-road—I made every inquiry—I could not find the prisoner or the clock.
Prisoner. Q. Did you bring the bill with you. A. No; I came for the money or the clock—I cannot swear on what day I went—it was not a week afterwards.
COURT. Q. Did you go into any room? A. No; I saw the landlady.
JACOB RUSSELL. I am a pawnbroker, in Frederick-place, Old kent-road. On the 19th June I took an American clock in pawn, about four or five o'clock in the afternoon—I have no doubt I took it of the prisoner—I advanced ten shillings on it—he commissioned me to sell it for ten shillings more—I said, "What you mean write on the back of the duplicate, and sign your name to it"—he did so—this is it—that clock was redeemed on 28th June—I do not know by whom.
Prisoner. Q. How far is your house from Queen's-row? A. About half a mile—I saw you write this, if you are the man that pawned the clock, and I have no doubt you are—you wrote with your right hand—I did not notice any deformity about the person who wrote.
Prisoner. He swore at the Mansion-house that he was sure it was not later than five o'clock, and Mr. Holloway says his man did not come back till nine; the time I saw Howard was half-past eight; I have my little finger off, and had my hand in a sling at the time; I never saw Mr. Russell till he was at the Mansion-house.
WILLIAM CHILD. I am City constable. I received instructions to look after the prisoner, and found him in Carey-street, Lincoln's-inn, on 10th May—I took him to the station—Mr. Holloway saw him, and charged him with obtaining a clock of him—the prisoner said he had bought it, and paid for it—I got this memorandum from Mr. Holloway, and this bill of parcels from the prisoner.
Prisoner's Defence. The party that charges me here has been instigated to this prosecution by a gentleman in the City; I was here two years ago, and this person is following me up to the present hour; I was acquitted, and the Judge said it was a paltry prosecution; this man has charged me with
the most horrible crime—he has had me detained in the House of Detention and said I had been writing letters to a General in the army for the purpose of extorting money; he had me remanded for a week, and then brought before a Magistrate, and he said there was not the slightest ground for it; I was taken by the City Solicitor's clerk before Judge Patteson, and confined four months and eleven days; I was then taken before Lord Denman, and was discharged without the case being heard, and because I pursued Mr. Pearson and Mr. Martin, I have had the whole Corporation on me; I applied to several persons, and the whole sum I received was a paltry 20l.; I was is the employ of Mitchell and Co., of Lime-street, for sixteen years; at the time this man says he called on me I was taken to Guy's Hospital; I was then seven weeks; I never was in Mr. Russell's house; I do not know it—that I had the clock I do not deny; I said, "Will you send me a good one?" he said, yes, he would, and I could have six months' trial with it; if I had had an intention of defrauding I could have had a clock worth ten guineas; I said to the man, "If you think you shall have the least blame, take it back; I have had some money to pay to-night, and I cannot pay you;" he said, "I cannot take it back, it is too heavy; give me something to drink;" and I gave him a sixpence; the man came on the following Thursday, and the people from the house came to me; I said, "Tell the landlord to let him have the clock;" it was there a long time, and the man had a seizure in his house, and that was taken; the man said he would leave it on his own responsibility; I was forced to get a light to write the memorandum which I gave him, that I would call and pay for it; he desired to have the memorandum; the officer said when he met me, "I want you, for an unnatural offence;" he had no warrant to take me; he brought two of the greatest ruffians that could be found; one was John Robinson, who has been tried here for felony; then he said I had been writing a letter to a distinguished General in the army to extort money, and had me remanded for a week; Mr Hammill said, "Where is the letter?" and he said, "I have not got it."
Prisoner. I have got the newspaper to prove it, and Mr. Hammill was going to prosecute you; did you not swear on your oath that I had been writing a letter to General Hay? Witness. No, I did not say a word about it.
Prisoner. You said in coming along, "Wherever I find you I will transport you, if I follow you 100 miles;" you handcuffed me and ill-used me is coming along; your conduct has been beyond all description, and Mr. Hammill, if written to, would prove the whole that I have said; it is or account of my poverty that you now play upon me; Mr. Harker knows that I was in prison four months and eleven days.
DANIEL RICHARD HARKER (Usher of the Court, examined by the prisoner. I remember the election of bridge-master—there were several persons takes up—I was at the Queen's Bench at the time of the trial—I do not recollect that Lord Denman would not allow you to be put on your trial—I was out a the Court till I was called in—you were acquitted—I do not know that Mr. Pearson gave you any money—you voted three times in three hours it different names and addresses.
MR. MARTIN (examined by the prisoner.) I remember the bridge—master's election—I had information that you were one of the persons who personated voters—one man who gave me the information was an attorney's clerk—I forget his name—Morris was one who was indicted and convicted—he gave information which led to the apprehension of others—I believe you to be the
John Lack that I indicted—after you were acquitted, you brought an action against Mr. Pearson for giving you into custody—I did not like the party who brought the action, nor did the City Solicitor, and he thought the beat way of getting rid of it would be to pay you 20l, not because we believed you to be innocent; we believed you guilty—I am sure Mr. Pearson never offered you a situation—he never saw you without my being present—I believed when you were before the Judge that you were the person who did vote at that election, but I could not prove it.
Prisoner. My name is James Seymour Brooks; Mr. Martin has always been my enemy ever since then; I had a witness named Mary Spain, but she is kept out of the way; she was here last night.
GUILTY. Aged 45.— Confined Six Months.
1273. WILLIAM JONES , breaking and entering the dwelling-house of our Lady the Queen, and stealing therein 6 sovereigns, 4 half-sovereigns, 12 crowns, 32 half-crowns, 80 shillings, and 120 sixpences; the moneys of Henry Jones.
MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.
HENRY JONES. I am troop-corporal-major, in the 1st Regiment of Life Guards. On 21st March our regiment was stationed at Albany-barracks—it is my duty to pay the first troop—I keep the money in a box in my room—it is public money, which I obtain for the purpose—on 15th March I received for that purpose 65l.—on 22nd March I had left in my box, as nearly as I can recollect, about 104l. in silver, and 6l. in gold, and some notes in a dictionary, at the bottom of the box—there was upwards of 3l. un sixpences, and four half-sovereigns—I saw them safe at ten o'clock in the morning—I then locked my box, locked the room door, and took my key—at half-past twelve, next day, I went to my box, and found it has been broken open, apparently with an inch chisel, and all the money was gone except the notes—the prisoner was a corporal in another troop, in the same regiment—he has frequently been in my room, and knew I kept money in the box—he has frequently seen me take a bag of silver out of the box—he was a carpenter before he came into the regiment, and he carried on that business in the regiment, and did jobs for the officers—he had no right in my room—the room door had been opened by a key, and was locked again—the door opens to a passage, which he and a good many others would have access to.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. I suppose a number of the soldiers knew that you had money in this box? A. I do not know that they knew it was in the box, they knew that I had money in the room—I occasionally left a female, with whom I am acquainted, in my room—the marks on my arm denote rank rather than good conduct; sometimes rank is the consequence of good conduct; the prisoner had been twelve years and a few days in the regiment—I am certain as to the amount of gold I had in the box, and I am certainly under the amount of silver—I am positive I had 3l. worth of sixpences in a small bag by themselves—I told them out of the rest of the silver for a purpose, the night before I went on duty.
ELIZABETH HALL. I am the wife of James Hall, who keeps the Crown and Anchor, in Albany-street. I know the prisoner by his using our house—he borrowed 10s. of me about the 20th March, I cannot say on what day of the month—he never returned it.
blank latch-key, a key which had the pipe but no the wards—the men were out at the time, and he went into the back shop and filed on ward in the key—be went away with the key—he called again on 22nd March, about tea minutes or a quarter before nine in the evening—he said he had lost that key, as he was going home, on the evening he bought it—I asked him if he would have another—he said no, for his landlady had put anew latch on the door, and he showed me a latch-key, which he said was the key of the latch which his landlady had put on—this is is (produced)—when he had the first key he told me he wanted it particularly, to let himself in with, that his wife should not have the trouble to come down—this blank key came from our place—it is exactly like the one he had.
Cross-examined. Q. Where did this blank key come from that is said to be the size of the one you sold? A. From our shop—we keep keys—I sold a key like this on the Saturday afterwards to another corporal—this is the one I think—we sell a good many of these keys—I never sold one to the regiment, to my knowledge, this year—a shopman sells besides me.
MR. BALLANTINE. A. Was anybody with the corporal on the SAturday when you sold the key? A. Yes, Mr. Haynes, the inspector—we Saturday these keys in dozens from the country.
ELIZABETH PEACH . I am the wife of Henry Peach, of Kepple-trrace, Windsor—my husband is a carpenter—I know the prisoner—his regiment was stationed at Windsor at one time, and during that time he got into our debt to the amount of 9l. 17s. 5d.; but my husband received 10s., which reduced it to 9l. 7s. 5d.—I wrote for the payment of that money after the prisoner had left—he came down and paid the bill on 23rd March—he first called about one o'clock that day—he said thought he should have found my husband at home, to pay him his bill—he said he would call again, and he called between three and four in the afternoon—he asked me to take charge of a small parcel wrapped in Whitybrown paper, which he said contained 6l. in silver, till he called in the evening, because it was in his pocket—he called again about half-past six—he paid me with the 6l. of silver, which he had left with me, and three sovereigns and a half-sovereign—I gave him 2s. 7d. change—my husband was there at that time—there were no sixpences in the silver he paid.
ANN COBBETT. I am the wife of John Herbert Cobbett, a baker, at Windsor. I knew the prisoner by serving him when he was stationed at Windsor—he owned me 1l. 7s. 10 3/4d.—we made one application to him for it, and he called on 23rd March, and paid it, with a sovereign and a half-sovereign, and I gave him half-a-crown change.
ALFRED HENRY WELLMAN. I live in Peascod-street, Windsor—my father is an ironmonger—the prisoner dealt with us, and when the regiment left he owned us 4l. 11s. 7d.—my father wrote to him for it. On 23rd March, about twelve o'clock, the prisoner came to our shop—he paid us in one half-sovereign and 4l. in silver—about 1l. or more of it was in sixpence.
COURT. Q. Were any troops of the Life Guards at Windsor at that time? A. No.
WILLIAM DARLING. I keep the Lion, at Windsor. On 23rd March I saw the prisoner there—he had a glass of ale and a biscuit—I made a remark about his being down so early, as I understood the last time I saw him that he should not be down till the steeple-chase—he said he came down to pay a few little bills—he gave me his coat to take charge of, because it was warm and too weighty for him to carry about—he said, "Take care of it, there is some silver in it."
JAMES HALL. I keep the Crown and Anchor, in Albany-street. My wife lent the prisoner 10s.—he paid it back again one day in the middle of the week in which the robbery was committed—I rather think it was after the robbery—he paid it in silver, and I rather think there were a few sixpences amongst it.
JOHN LIMBERT. I am in the 1st regiment of Life Guards. I saw the prisoner on Friday, 24th March, between one and two o'clock—I knew of the robbery at that time—the inspector said to him, "I am going to put a few questions to you; you may please yourself whether you answer them or not; have you paid any money away lately?"—he at first said, "No;" but recollecting himself he said, "Yes, I paid half-a-sovereign to the landlord of the Crown and Anchor, Mr. Hall"—the inspector said, "Have you paid any money at Windsor?"—he said, "No, not a farthing."
JOHN HAYNES (police-inspector.) I received information of this robbery on Thursday, 23rd March—I learnt that the prisoner had been down to Windsor—I saw him on the 24th, and told him I understood he had no objection to have his boxes searched—he said no, he had not—I said, "I understand it is your wish that they should be"—he said, "Yes"—I went with him, and searched his boxes in the room adjoining the one the money was stolen from; that is where the prisoner stays—he is married, and lodges out; but his accountrements remain at the barracks—I then went and searched his private lodgings, but I found nothing—I went back to him, and said it had been suggested to me to ask him two or three questions—I said, "Have you paid any money away lately?"—he said, "No, I have not"—he hesitated a minute, and said, "With the exception of half-a-sovereign to Mr. Hall, the landlord of the Crown and Anchor"—I said, "Have you paid any money away ar Windsor?"—he said, "No, I have not"—I said, "Am I to understand that the only money you have paid lately was the half-sovereign to Mr. Hall?"—he said, "Yes"—when I took him, I found bill and receipts in his hat, and this latch-key on his person—this other key I purchased at the shop—I saw Colonel Hall on the Monday, and he called the prisoner in, and told him that the circumstances were so strong, and so fraught with suspicion against him, that he conceived it his duty to hand him over to the civil power—the prisoner handed in a paper to Colonel Hall, and said that was an account of all the moneys he had received and paid away—he said he was very sorry he had told me an untruth about his not having paid money away at Windsor, but he did not like that the regiment should know he was so much in debt.
ELIZABETH MILLER. I live at 27, Edward-street, Regent's-park. The prisoner lodged with me—he was provided with a key of the door—this key is like the one that I provided for him—I did not provide any key of this other shape—I have not altered the lock of the door for the last thirteen years.
HENRY JONES re-examined. This is the key of my room door—Richardson, my servant, used occasionally to attend in my room—he comes in and out when he pleases—he has a duplicate key for that purpose—he is on duty when I am on duty—on 22nd March I went out on duty, about ten o'clock in the morning—Richardson was with me the whole time I was at the Horse Guards, till the next day—he was in attendance on me the whole time—when he goes with me to the Horse Guards he leaves his key with Little.
went into Jones's room at half-past ten next morning—I did not go to his box and take out his money.
ELIZABETH PEACH re-examined. I pressed for the payment of my money be letter—I said in my letter, if he did not pay the money I must press further for it—it must have been before Christmas that I sent that letter—I wrote to him after that—I think I wrote four times from the time the regiment left Windsor till he paid—I pressed him each time for the money—I directed the letter for Corporal Jones, of the First Regiment, Life Guards.
JOHN HAYNES re-examined. This is Mr. Broughton's signature to this deposition—I heard the prisoner make this statement—(read—"The prisoner says, `The reason I told Mr. Haynes what I did was, that I did not wish it knows that I was in debt; I had received the money from different people; I had 16l.; the key was obtained for Mr. Hogg's door, for a key the servant lost.'"
ANDREW BRTON. I am a private in the First Regiment of Life Guards. I am servant to Lieutenant Hogg—I know the prisoner—he has done work for my master—I have the charge of Mr. Hogg's room—I have not lost my key within the last two or three months—in 1845, the prisoner supplied me with three keys—that was the last time.
Cross-examined. Q. You know that the prisoner was in the habit of supplying keys? A. Yes.
MR. CLARKSON to JOHN HAYNES. Q. Do not you know that it was a mistake between Mr. Hogg's servant and Mr. Walsh's servant? A. No, nor do I believe there was a mistake.
MR. COLE examined by MR. CLARKSON. I keep the canteen of the regiment. I have paid the prisoner silver money at times—to the best of my recollection I have changed him a check—it was for more than 5l.
MR. BALLANTINE. Q. When was it? A. It must have been some time previous to the robbery—it might have been one or two months before—I paid the check through Sir Claude Scott's hands if I changed it.
COURT. Q. Do you pay your checks in that way? A. Yes—I keep a pass-book—I have not inquired about it—I told Mr. Haynes to make inquiries.
1274. WILLIAM HARRIS RAWSON , stealing 1 shirt, value 5s. 6d.; 1 shirt-collar, 9d.; 1 pair of stockings, 1s. 9d.; 1 handkerchief, 4s. 6d.; 1 pair of gloves, 3s. 6d.; and 1 pair of drawers, 2s. 6d.; the goods of Thomas Marshall and another.
MR. PARNELL conducted the Prosecution.
THOMAS MARSHALL. I carry on business in partnership with my brother, at 80, in the Quadrant—we are hosiers and outfitters—ours is a ready-money shop. On 22nd Sept. the prisoner came and looked out some goods—he desired them to be sent home that evening, or early the next morning, as he had to go to the office—the goods he looked out were a shirt, a collar, one pair of stockings, one handkerchief, one pair of gloves, and one pair of drawers—nothing was said about paying for them—he was a complete stranger—he had just one change of things—I made up a parcel, and gave it so Shergold—I told him not to leave the things without the money—he took them that evening, and brought them back, as the prisoner was not at home to pay for them—I did not keep them till he called again—we should never do any
business if we did sp—on the following morning Shergold took the goods, with the same directions—he was gone a long while, and returned without the goods, on that I went down to 17, Manchester-buildings—I could not find the prisoner, he was gone out—on the following morning, or the morning after, I received a letter from a wholesale dealer in the City—I went to Fludyer-street—I saw the prisoner in an office—I asked him for the money—he said he had friends who were Magistrates, and they told him it was nothing but a debt—I saw the prisoner three or four times a week afterwards—I was sending down continually for the money—the bill was sent each time.
Prisoner. Q. Did you not on several occasions, when you called at my office, se persons there? A. Yes, and I asked what you were—they said you had a situation in the City; at one time they said you were a solicitor, and another time a land-surveyor—I believe my interference did prevent persons from paying you money which would have paid my bill—you said if I had allowed you to get the money from those persons you would have paid me—I said if you got it in an honourable manner I would not mind.
JURY. Q. When was he taken? A. He was taken for a conspiracy on Mr. Crook—I was summoned on that trial, and that brought this forward.
JAMES SHIRGOLD. I am shopman to Mr. Marshall. On 22nd Sept. I received a parcel of goods from him to take to Manchester-buildings—I had directions not to leave them without the money—I god there about ten o'clock at night—I could not find the prisoner, he was not in—I did not leave the goods—I went about nine o'clock next morning—I gave the things to a servant—I sent them up with the bill—the bill was not receipted—then girl came down, and said he would call on Mr. Marshall—I said I was not to leave them without the money—after waiting some time, I went up myself— —I saw the prisoner, and told him I should be glad if he would pay me for the goods, as I had somewhere else to go to—he had the shirt on, he was dressing—he said if I would wait till he was dressed he would talk to me—I waited at the door, and when he came out to me I told him again I must have the goods or the money—he said I was not fit to wait on a gentleman; he should tell Mr. Marshall of my conduct—I still told him I must have the goods or the money—the wished me to take a reference—I said I did not want a reference, I must have the goods or the money—he said he would not give me the goods or the money, he would see Mr. Marshall—I should think I staid three-quarters of an hour—I left him there when I went home—it was not my intention at any time to part with the goods without the money.
THIRD COURT.—Friday, May 19th, 1848.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq., and the Third Jury.
1275. CHARLES ABBOTT , stealing 1 portmanteau, 1 coat, 3 pairs of trowsers, 5 shirts, and other articles, value 6l. 8s. 4d.; the goods of the Great Western Railway Company; having been before convicted.
MESSRS. CLARKSON and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
On 28th April I was on duty at Paddington—the train from Exeter came in at eight o'clock—I saw the prisoner on the platform before the train came in; when the luggage was being delivered, I saw him take a portmanteau from within the bar, and take it to an omnibus—the conductor put it on the roof, and he got inside—Mr. Marsh and the guard came to me—we went to the omnibus, and Mr. Marsh owned the portmanteau—it was taken down, and the prisoner got out, walked a few paces, and began running—I pursued him one way and the conductor another—he caught him on the steps, just as I came up and brought him back.
Prisoner. I was not on the platform; I came from Slough by the train. Witness. You did not.
EDWARD DEBENHAM. I live in Charles-street, Hatton-garden—I am an ornibus conductor—at the Great Western Railway—the prisoner came to the omnibus, I took a portmanteau of him, and put it on the top—he asked me if I went to the edgeware-road—I said "Yes," and he got in—in three-quarters of a minute I went to him and said, "I suppose you mean the other end;" he said, "No; not so far; Praed-street, or anywhere near that,—the last turning at the end of Praed-street will do"—you might throw a stone from the station to Praed-street; a man who had not luggage would not want to ride—Linley came up with Mr. Marsh, who claimed the portmanteau—the prisoner, who sat at the door, got out, walked to the corner of the cloak-room, and began running—I ran, overtook him, and said, "Stop, old gentleman; come back and account for that portmanteau you brought me"—he said, "I brought no portmanteau"—I gave him in charge.
JOSEPH COLLARD. In consequence of information, I went to the house of an old woman named Cattel, at 23, Carlisle-place, Lisson-grove—she pointed out the room where she lived, as the place where the prisoner deposited his goods—I found some duplicates, a great many portmanteaus, carpet bags, and boxes, with railway tickets on them, and as much property as I could take away in three cabs.
Prisoner's Defence. I had them of an acquaintance.
GUILTY. Aged 54.— Transported for Seven Years.
1276. CHARLES ABBOTT was again indicted for stealing 1 portmanteau, 1 coat, 4 handkerchiefs, and other articles, value 7l. 14s.; the goods of the Eastern Counties Railway Company; and ANN WILLIAMS , feloniously receiving the same.
MESSRS. BODKIN and BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.
JOSEPH COLLARD. I found this portmanteau, identified by Mr. Veley, at Cattel's house; also all these duplicates, and other articles (produced)—Abbott lived at 19, Richmond-street—I found Mr. Randall's portmanteau at a public-house in Portman-market.
portmanteau—it was afterwards shown me by Collard—this is it—it has my initials on it—the the shirts produced are mine.
AUGUSTINE THOMAS FISH. I am a pawnbroker, at St. Alban's-place, Dover-road. These two shirts were pawned with me for three shilling, on 15th February, I believe, by Williams—I gave her this duplicate—I knew her as a customer—this shirt and handkerchief were pawned by Abbott—here are other things pawned by him on 3rd March—I never saw the prisoners together—she gave her name Ann Williams, Richmond-street—the duplicate answers that description.
FRANCIS BEST. I am assistant to Mr. Rogers, of Losson-grove. Williams was a customer there—this ticket for 24th Dec., in the name of Ann Williams, 10, Richmond-street, found at Cattel's, is mine—I cannot swear the made this pledge, but that is the name and address she usually gave—here is another, of 21st Jan., for a coat and trowsers for 1l.—I took them in of Williams—this bag was pawned by her for one shilling—here are three sheets, pawned on 3rd Feb., I cannot say who by; they are in the name of Ann Williams, for Charles Abbott, 8 Richmond-street—here are six books pawned on 14th Jan., by Williams, for Charles Abbott—I asked who he was—she described him as a respectable person—I thought they belonged to him, and did not think she had stolen them—here is a flannel shirt pledged on 31st Jan., and a waistcoat on 22nd April, both by Williams.
THOMAS EDWARD RANDALL. I live at Trinity College, Oxford—I was a passenger from Oxford on 30th Dec.—I missed my portmanteau at the Paddington terminus—it was worth 20l.—this portmanteau, clothes and books are mine—the books have my name in them.
THOMAS BATSON. I live at Ross, Herefordshire. On 23rd December I arrived in London, by the Great Western Railway—I had six or seven packages—I missed a portmanteau; it has not been found—this coat and other things, found at Cattel's are mine—my loss was 45l. or 50l.
Abbott's Defence. I bought the books.
William's Defence. Abbott told me he was a servant out of place—I did not think there was anything wrong.
ABBOTT— GUILTY. Aged 54.— Transported for Seven Years more.
WILLIAMS— GUILTY. Aged 35.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined for Twelve Months.
(There were two other indictments against the prisoners.)
1277. JOHN QUIGLEY and ROBERT MARTIN , breaking and entering the dwelling house of Catherine Forster, and stealing therein 1 knife and 1 button-hook, value 1s. 6d.; her goods; Quigley having been before convicted.
CATHERINE FORSTER. I am a widow, and keep a jeweller's shop, in High-street, Marylebone—it is my dwelling-house. On Saturday night, 8th May, about nine o'clock, Buckley told me something—I found my window broken, it was safe at five—I missed some pen-knives from a tray which was close to the glass—the policeman brought them to me—these are them (produced).
JOHN BUCKLEY. I take down and put up the shutters for Mrs. forster—I was passing the shop about half-past eight o'clock, and saw the glass safe; I went by again about nine, and saw the prisoners and another doing something
to the window—I said, "You have cut the glass"—they ran away—I told a policeman, and saw them taken—I am sure they are two of them.
THOMAS SKINNER (policeman, D 192.) About nine o'clock on Saturday night, Buckley gave me information; I pursued the prisoners—I saw them run from the window, and am sure of them—I caught Martin in Manchester square, 150 yards off—I heard something fall, and picked up a broken knife at his feet—I took it to the shop—I got over the enclosure where Quigley was taken, and found this button-hook—the hole in the window was large enough to get three fingers through.
JAMES REGAN (policeman.) I heard a cry of "Stop thief!" saw the prisoners and another, and caught Quigley in Manchester-square—he three something into the enclosure; it jingled against a rail—I afterwards went back and found this knife.
QUIGLEY— GUILTY. Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years.
MARTIN GUILTY. Aged 15.— Confined Twelve Months.
MR. BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM LEE. I am a constable of the Great Western Railway. The prisoner was a porter in the Paddington-goods Department—I take the porters time at the lodge-gate, and a pass for anything that has to be taken out again—a clerk on the platform gives the pass. On 16th April the men went of work at twenty minutes past ten o'clock—the prisoner went at twenty minutes to eleven—he was leaving alone—he usually went with the other—they are all supposed to leave at one time—I know no reason for his staying—I saw something under his arm, and asked what he had got there—be said, "A chicken, which I bought in South Wharf-road"—that is two or three minutes' walk outside the premises—he must have gone out at the lodge-gate to have gone there—I said, "You know my duty; you must give me a pass"—he said, "I have not got one, I could not get one; for God sake don't say anything about it"—I sent for Mr. Collard.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. If it was brought before he came would it require a pass to be taken out? A. Yes—he made no attempt to conceal it.
JOSEPH COLLARD. I am chief inspector of the Great Western Railway police. On 16th April I went to the lodge, and asked the prisoner when he got the chicken—he said he bought it of a man in South Wharf-road—I asked his name—he said he was a stranger—if a man bought a fowl he ought to apply for a ticket—there would be no difficulty in doing so in an honest transaction—I went to truck 730, and found a large tea chest full of poultry—a piece as large as a book had been removed from under the cor✗ to make an opening—something had been extracted—I took it next morning to Newgate-market—it was there opened—it contained five layers of twelve fowls, but the top layer only contained eleven—there was a vacancy of the size of a fowl—the rest were stowed as close as could be.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you tell him that what he said would be brought against him, and he need not say it unless he liked? A. Yes—he would not require a ticket to bring a hammer out, or his dinner—the men are not always searched.
WILLIAM WETHERLEY. I am in the employ of Cook and Wetherley. I saw the case Mr. Collard brought—we received several cases of fowls that morning—this one ought to have contained sixty—I saw it opened—it contained fifty-nine—I have no doubt a fowl had been taken out—it was worth 3s.—I saw a fowl produced by Mr. Collard—it was of the same breed and age as those in the case.
Cross-examined. Q. The feathers were off? A. Yes—I have a leg of it here—we can tell by the pressing where they come from—the fifty-nine were pressed by the same person as the other.
JAMES FELL. I am chief clerk at Marylebone police-court. I attended the prisoner's examination on 17th April—he made a statement—I wrote it down—(reads—"I have nothing to say; I have been in the Company's employ nearly two years, and never was reported") on that being road, it was stated that he used the words, "I am sorry it happened"—I did not hear him say so—the Magistrate asked him if he made the of those words—he said, "Yes"—The Magistrate said, "That amounts to a confession; do you wish that to be taken down?"—he said, "Yes," and I took it down.
GUILTY. Aged 23.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Two Months.
EDWARD WILLIAM THOMPSON. I am a baker, at Lisson-grove, the prisoner was in my service. On 21st April, about seven o'clock in the evening, he came up from the bakehouse, and through the shop into the street—he was not going on my business—I went after him, and asked what he had got that did not belong to him—he said, "Nothing"—I said, "That will not do"—his pocket bulged out—I said, "What have you got here?"—he had a piece of bread in each pocket—he said he was going to give it to a boy in the street, whom he described—I left him in the shop with a policeman, and went and found the boy, who had been working for me that morning, and then went to the bakehouse and found four or five half-quarters loaves in a basket in which they put the bread which they consume—it was mine—it had no business there—the men are allowed to eat what they like on the premises, but not to have five loaves—it would not have to he carried out to my customers—those baskets were in the shop—I have two other men—I allow one of them, who is married, bread to take home—he sends one of his children to fetch it.
Prisoner's Defence. The boy asked me to bring him up a bit of bread, as he had had nothing to eat all day.
KELLY pleaded GUILTY . Aged 16— Confined Six Months.
JOSEPH HEDINGTON (City-policeman, 20). On 12th April, about half-past five o'clock, I was with Haydon—we met the prisoners in St. Paul's Clinch-yard, going towards Cheapside—we passed them, and then followed them along Newgate-street and Skinner-street, to Holborn-hill, into a waxwork exhibition—they came out together—we followed them—near Ely-place, a lady and gentleman were looking in at a window—Kelly placed herself behind the lady—the other prisoners were on each side of Kelly—they left suddenly—I asked if the lady had lost anything—she said, "A purse"—Haydon
ran after the prisoners, and took them going into another wax-work exhibition—I said, "I want the purse you took from the lady"—they each denied it—I took Robinson, Haydon took the others—a man gave me a purse and said robinson dropped it—she was present—the man did not attend a Guildhall.
MICHAEL HAYDON (City-policeman, 21). I was with Hedington, and saw a lady and gentleman looking in at a shop—Kelly stood on the lady's right and the others on each side of her—they remained three or four seconds—I saw their motions—they went together up the hill—Hedington spoke to the lady—I followed them, and took Kelly and Turner.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. You made it? A. Yes.
Turner's Defence. I did not know Kelly had it.
(Robinson received a good character.)
TURNER— GUILTY. Aged 18.
ROBINSON— GUILTY. Aged 24.
Confined Six Months.
1281. WILLIAM MASON , stealing 1 purse, value 1s.; 5 sovereigns, 4 half-sovereigns, 5 half-crowns, and 5 shillings; the property of William Buckmaster, in the dwelling-house of William Edgar and another.
WILLIAM BUCKMASTER. I am porter to Messrs. Swan and Edgar, of Regent-street. The prisoner used to come to see his brother, who was porter there, and slept in the house—on 4th April I missed a purse, with 7l. 17s. 6d. in it, from my box, which was in a room on the ground floor—I had left it locked and found it locked—we always saw the prisoner in that room—this is my purse (produced).
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. Is there any mark on it? A. One division is rather worn—I could swear to it from a hundred—I gave 1s. for it—four sovereigns were in it when found—the box was not sound, the purse could be taken out at the bottom—I saw it safe on the 2nd.
GUILTY. Aged 22.— Confined Six Months —
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. Who lives in the house? A. Neither of the partners, they have a housekeeper.
ROBERT CHEEKLEY. I took the prisoner in charge on 8th April—I asked where he lived—he said, "6, King-street," that he had four boxes—he gave me the keys—I went to a back room second floor—he told me to be careful of a box which had some picture in it, and in that I found these knives.
Cross-examined. Q. How many keyes did he give you? A. Six or seven on a bunch.
(The prosecutor did not appear.)
GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Four Months.
GUILTY — Transported for Seven Years.
ELIZABETH ENNEVER. I am wife of William Ennever, of Charles-street, City-road. On 23rd March the prisoner George took two furnished rooms in my house—she came next day with Pulbrook, who she said was her mother, and a man she said was her husband—on 7th April they did not come home—they left the door locked—I got in on 10th, and missed blankets, sheets, spoons, and other things—they never came back—on 14th I found the prisoners in custody.
MARY HOBLEY TARRANT. I am a marine store dealer, at Wellington-street, Goswell-street. Three weeks before I was before the Magistrate, Pulbrook sold me a coal-scuttle, a pair of flower-tubes, and a stove—I bought this chamber, this knife and fork, and these ornaments, of both prisoners together.
Pulbrook. They were left to be fetched back again. Witness. They were sold.
THOMAS SWAIN. I am in the service of Mr. Wilton, a pawnbroker, of Goswell-street. I produce a pillow which I took in I believe of Pulbrook—the features of both prisoners are very familiar to me—I gave this ticket—(produced)—it is in my writing—it is in the name of Ann Davis.
Pulbrook. I lost the ticket going home, and came back to stop it. Witness. Yes, you did.
JOB SMITH (policeman, G 44.) I took Pulbrook in Seward-street, Goswell-street and George very near the same spot—they both said if the prosecutrix would not prosecute she should have all her property returned—I told them to be careful what they said, as it might be used against them—George said she was sorry for what had been done.
MRS. ENNEVER re-examined. All these things are my husband's, and were let with the room.
Pulbrook's Defence. My husband was fitting himself out to go to India; he was to send me some money, and I could have taken the things out, or my father would have got them out for me.
PULBROOK— GUILTY. Aged 49.— Confined Twelve Months.
GEORGE— GUILTY. Aged 24.— Transported for Seven Years.
OLD COURT—Saturday, May 20th, 1848.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq. and the Second Jury.
GUILTY , and received a good character. Aged 20.— Confined Nine Months
GUILTY .— Confined Twelve Months.
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined One Months
MR. PLATT conducted the Prosecution.
SARAH ANN DAVIS. I live in Ashby-street, King's-cross—I am an unfortunate girl. On 1st April, about twelve o'clock at night, I was in the New-road with Jane Randall, who lives with me—the prisoner, who is also an unfortunate girl, came up and said to Randall, "You b—y little cow, I have got you now, and I will put the key in your head"—I pushed her away and said, "No, you won't," and she directly struck me on the head with a street-door key—it was not a very large one; it cut my head, and it bled very much—Randall screamed "Police!" and the prisoner directly struck her on the head—I did not feel any inconvenience till the next Friday night, when erysipelas came on—I went to the hospital—I am getting on very well now—I feel it painful now and then.
Prisoner. I did not strike her with the key; as we were fighting she fell on the kerb; she has owed me a spite a long time. Witness. It is false—I was always goods friends with her, and do not wish to hurt her now.
SARAH DUDLEY. I live in Denton-street, New-road, and am an unfortunate girl. On Saturday night, about twelve o'clock, I was in the New-road, and heard a cry of "Police!"—I went to see what was the matter, and met the prisoner, who said, "I have put the key in the b—s head, and I don't care"—I saw a key in her hand at the time—I went up, and saw Davis with her head bleeding.
Prisoner. She was not there. Witness. I am positive she is the woman; I have known her for months—she was running away, and a tall woman with her.
JANE RANDALL. I live in Ashby-street, and am an unfortunate girl. I was with Davis in the New-road—the prisoner came up to me and said, "You b—y little cow, I have got you now, and I will put the key in your head"—Davis said, "No, you won't," pushed her away, and she directly struck Davis on the head with a key—I saw the blood come—I called "Police!" and she served me the same—she did not hurt me much—nothing had been said or done by either of us.
Prisoner. She has owed me a spite a long time. Witness. I do not—she ha always been insulting me—she owes me a spite—we are on bad terms.
JOHN HARDING (policeman, S 205.) I took the prisoner into custody—She
said they had a fight, and Davis fell and cut her head, and that Davis was drunk at the time.
JOSEPH THOMAS CLOVER. I am house-surgeon at the University Hospital. The prosecutrix came there on Monday, 10th April—I examined her head, and found, on the front of the scalp, a wound about three quarters of an inch long—it was imperfectly healed, surrounded by erysipelas—a door key would be very likely to cause such a wound—I should suppose it had been a confused wound—the wound was not dangerous to life, but the erysipelas might have been—it might probably have happened by a fall—the skin was broken, and the scalp torn.
Prisoner's Defence. They assaulted me first Davis struck me; I was a little the worse for liquor, and returned the blow; Randall interfered; a quarrel took place, and we all three fell on the pavement together, and me doubt Davis's head struck against the kerb.
SARAH TYRRELL. I have known the prisoner five years. I was walking down the New-road, and saw Randall and Davis—Davis used bad words and said, "Go along, you nasty long cow"—we said, "We are no more cows than you are;" and with that Randall took off her bonnet and struck the prisoner, and Davis began fighting with her—they all fell down together, and when they got up Davis's head was bleeding.
GUILTY of an Assault.—Recommended to mercy. Aged 17— Confined One Month.
WILLIAM NOBLE. I live at King-street. Hammersmith, and am a tobacconist. On Thursday, 11th May, about half-past six o'clock, I was talking to Mr. Millward, who lives next door, and saw the prisoner coming out of my shop—he made for the road—I went after him, hallooing, and saw him stopped—I had not lost night of him—I brought him back to my shop and in his left pocket I found these eight Cubs cigars, and two pipes (produced)—they are mine, and had been safe in my window.
RICHARD MILLWARD. I keep the White Bear, next door to Mr. Noble. I was talking to him about six o'clock, on 11th May, and saw the prisoner come out of his house—Noble went after him—he was stopped, brought back, and I saw the cigars taken from him.
Prisoner's Defence. I had nothing on me.
GUILTY. Aged 17.— Transported for Seven Years.
Before Mr. Baron Alderson.
In this case the party died while the prisoner was attending her, as a medical practitioner during her labour, he not being legally qualified so to sol.—Mr. Baron ALDERSON, after hearing Mr. BALLANTINE'S opening, considered that the evidence would not establish what, in his opinion, was necessary, namely, a case of such gross negligence as would amount to mala fides on the part of the prisoner.—MR. BALLANTINE, therefore, offered me evidence, and the prisoner was
1293. EDWARD PRICE and GEORGE HIGHAM , stealing 9 gallons of brandy, 1 quart of rum, 12 bottle-labels, 1 spoons, and 30 cakes value 15l.; 30 pence, 60 halfpence, and 96 farthings; the property of Thomas Jarmaine, in his dwelling-house; and afterwards burglariously breaking out of the said dwelling-house.
MR. PAVNE conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM ELSTONE (policeman, G 246.) On Saturday morning, 15th April, about five minutes to five o'clock, I tried the door of the Grapes', in Old-street, at the corner of New-street, in the parish of St. Luke's, kept by Mr. Thomas Jarmaine—it was not fastened—I opened it, went in, and saw bottles lying about in different directions, some cakes spilt over the counter and some brandy on the floor—I called a brother constable, and left him is in charge—I traced some drops of brandy from a puddle in the front of the bar, out at the door on to the pavement, and into Peartree-street, near the door of No. 11—there I saw the prisoner Price with a two gallon bottle and a pail on the pavement—Mrs. Murrell was there, and was pouring brandy from the two gallon bottle into the pail—Price was standing by her—a Mrs. Cooper was also there—I took Price into custody, and found a quart bottle in his pocket containing rum—there was some brandy on the pavement near where Price was standing—Ambridge took him to the station, and took possession of the bottles—he said, "I have done nothing."
Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. Was it quite light? A. Yes—I know the time, because I passed a clock as I was tracing the brandy—I saw the brandy the whole way; it was wet—there were four people where Price was—I traced the brandy up to there, and not beyond.
EDWARD DELAFORCE. I am barman to Mr. Thomas Jarmaine, of the Grapes', Old-street. On this morning, a few minutes before five o'clock, I was roused by a ring at the bell, went down stairs, and found a policeman in charge of the door—the bar was in a very disturbed state—the glasses had been used, and brandy was spilled about the counter and on the floor, and some cakes were gone from some glass globes—I guaged the brandy-vats, and from No. 12 missed about nine gallons—it could be got from the fountain on the bar, which communicates with the vats by pipes—this two-gallon stone jar (produced) is my master's—I missed some bottles from the ware-house adjoining the bar—this (produced) is one of them—the brandy found is of the same kind as we have in the vat—I went to the station, between half-past seven and eight, and found both prisoners there in custody—I was there shown some cakes—they were the same sort as were missing from the bar—I was also shown a dozen metal wine bottle labels, which are Mr. Jarmaine's property—I shut up the house the night before at eleven o'clock—I was the last up, and saw all safe—the door which the policeman was in charge of was barred and bolted—when I was rung up I found a window open in the warehouse, leading to a gallery—the window opens into the back-yard—there were a pair of large 4 steps kept in the back-yard—a person could, by raising those steps on to a shed, get through the window—we found the steps against the window—they had been kept against a hay-loft—that window was open the night before—it is generally open to air the place—I saw a rope suspended from the rail of the gallery, by which a person could swing himself down into the warehouse—Higham had been in Mr. Jarmaine's employment occasionally for eight or nine days—that would enable him to know the nature of the premises—I have seen Price there also.
Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. Price had not been in the service?
A. No—I have served him occasionally at the bar—I know the time, because I looked at the clock as I came down stairs—I looked at my watch as soon as I got out of bed, when I heard the bell ring—it is my duty to go round to see that all is safe—I am positive I barred the house up—there are five doors altogether—the door that was found open we keep open last—I am certain I fastened it—a person could not swing back to the gallery by the rope very easily—they could not have got out the back way without unlocking a door leading into the house—there is a yard and stabling at the back—it is all surrounded by buildings—you get from the yard into the street by a large gateway, but that was locked—a person might have secreted himself in an empty house next door, belonging to my master, and then got in through the window—my master is married, he has no family—I manage the business.
HENRY TYLER (policeman, G 130.) I took Higham on 15th April, and found on him a German-silver spoon and thirty farthings in his waistcoat-pocket, some pound cake, and some ginger-bread—(produced)—the spoon has "T. J." on it—I showed it to Delaforce.
THOMAS AMBRIDGE (policeman, G 227.) I was sent with Price from Pear-tree-street to the station, about ten minutes past five o'clock, on the morning of 15th April—Price sat down on the bench at the station about ten minutes, and then went to another part of the bench—I saw Charchill pick up some wine-bottle labels from where he had first been sitting—I found in his trowsers-pocket 5s. in half pence loose, and thirty farthings in this waistcoat-pocket.
EDWARD DELAFORCE re-examined. These labels are my master's, and were safe the night before on twelve bottles, on a shelf at the back of the bar—this bottle is the kind of bottle we lost—we missed 5s. worth of copper from the till—I saw these things safe when I shut up the house—this spoon is just such a one as we lost.
(The prisoners received goods characters.)
PRICE— GUILTY. Aged 29.— Confined Eighteen Months.
HIGHAM— GUILTY. Aged 27.— Confined Two Years.
1294. EBER ELLIOTT and WILLIAM HICKS , breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John Goss, and stealing therein 1 tea-pot, 1 sugar-basin, 22 spoons, 2 watches, and a variety of articles, value 140l., his property; JOHN MURPHY , for feloniously receiving the same; and WILLIAM NICHOLLS , as an accessary after the fact.
MESSRS. RYLAND and LAURIE conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN GOSS. I am a surgeon, at 36, Paternoster-row, in the parish of St. Faith. I am in the habit of having the greater part of my plate brought up stairs into my bed-room every night, and likewise the street-door key, after the door has been secured—on Sunday evening, 19th March, the plate and key were brought into my room as usual—I had not fastened the door myself—I never lock my bed-room, and Mrs. Goss' watch was also on her dressing-table—next morning Mrs. Goss missed her watch—I looked for mine, and missed that also—I had heard no disturbance in the night—the key of the street door remained in the place where it always hung, behind the door, where the servant could reach it without coming into the room—I
immediately missed the plate, which had been in my room the night before I sent for the police—I missed other articles of plate from other parts of the house—my loss has been from 130l. to 140l.—I discovered a candle in the back cellar, which was not there the night before—I missed a basket covered with oil-cloth, in which the boy carried out the medicine—that was quite big enough to hold all the plate I lost—I went into the coal-cellar, and saw bank of coal there, large enough for two persons to be concealed behind it—the prisoners Elliott and Hicks had both been in my service, Hicks about two two years ago—he left seven or eight weeks previous to the robbery—Ellion succeeded him, and left on the Tuesday previous to the robbery—they were employed in cleaning knives and going on errands—they were in the habit of coming into my bed-room in the morning, to take away my clothes, and to bring me shaving water, and take away the key—I discharged Elliott suddenly, and I told him when I dismissed him that I should pay his wages to his father—he said if I did not choose to pay him his wages he would take d—d goods care to get them out of me, or words to that effect—I think he is about eighteen years old—I discharged Hicks also—I lost a hat and a dark taglioni coat—I have never recovered any of the property.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINS. Q. Did you take any body into your service to succeed Elliott? A. Yes; Barrett, the same day—he immediately took the duties Elliott had performed—he is with me now, add in here—I do not now a person named Ebden—I do not receive patients at home till after ten o'clock—a very few strangers come—I know almost every patient—I might have a new patient occasionally—I am a general practitioner, and am not called on by strangers as a physician would be—it is the duty of the servant or the assistant to open the door—my assistant has been with me about a year and a half—he sleeps on the same floor that I do—his name is Julian—I have two women servants—I think at this time I had a third; a nurse who left me lately, but I do not recollect whether it was before or after this—she had lived with me eighteen years, and is now in a respectable family—I had not a new one in her place, as I did not require a nurse.
COURT. Q. Whereabouts was the plate? A. Opposite the foot of the bed, in a palte-basket—I found that basket in the celler—a child also slept in the room—it is carpetted, and a boy might come in without shoes, at the dead of night; and he would have no occasion to bring a light, because we always burn a light in the room—I do not have the curtains drawn at the foot of my bed—I could see the plate by raising my head up.
JOHN HENRY GOSS. I am the prosecutor's son, and was sleeping on the floor above him on this night—about half-past ten or a quarter to eleven o'clock I locked the street-door with the ordinary key, and bolted it with one bolt—I made it all secure, and took the key to my father's room, and hung it up in the usual place—I also placed the chain across the street—door.
RICHARD BARRETT. I am in Mr. Goss's service, and have been so since five days previous to 19th March—I was in the house on the evening of 19th March—Elliott came that evening about half-past seven o'clock—I opened the door to him—he said, "I have come for my shirt"—I said, I did not know, I would enquire of the servant—I went up stairs to the kitchen, which is on the first-floor, and the servant, Mary Ann Stevenson, came down to him—I was gone about a minute and a half, leaving Elliott just inside the passage, with the door in his hand—there is a flight of stairs about five yards from the street-door, leading down to the coal cellar—I did not return to Elliott—I heard the door shut afterwards, and Stevenson came up again—I got up on Monday morning about half-past seven, and went to my master's
room, as usual—I found the key in its usual place, came down to unfasten the door, and found it unfastened all but the latch.
Cross-examined. Q. Did Elliott want to go for his shirt? A. No; he told me to enquire for it—he did not say where it was.
COURT. Q. What became of you the rest of the evening? A. I was in the kitchen up stairs—nobody could come in unless the door was opened from the inside, or the lock was picked—it is a spring lock—the key was in the inside—I found that a small piece of candle which I left in my candlestick had been burnt—I found it in the cellar, at the back of the surgery, where I had been at work at about seven o'clock, it is below stairs—I had left the candle there in the morning—I also missed a towel from there.
MARY ANN STEVENSON. I live at 59, Philip-street, Kingaland-road—on 19th March last, I was in Mr. Goss's service—Hicks Elliott were in the service when I was—on Sunday evening, 19th March, about seven or eight o'clock, consequence of something Barrett told me, I went down stairs and found Elliott standing in the passage with the street-door in his hand, ajar—he asked for a shirt, which he had left behind—I told him he was not to have it, his father was to have it—he then went away, and I shut the door.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Then he had a shirt there? A. Yes; I did not give it him, by my master's orders.
MICHAEL HAYDON (City-policeman, 21.) On the morning after the robbery I was sent for to Mr. Goss's—I examined the premises carefully, and, in my judgment, the robbery must have been committed by some person well acquainted with the premises, and from within—there were no marks of violence outside—I examined the coal-cellar, and found several pieces of wood placed in the corners, and the angles of the corner formed a sort of closet large enough to hide one or two persons—a person coming into the cellar even in the broad day light would have no opportunity of seeing any person concealed behind there—I received a description of Elliott and Hicks from Mr. Goss, and made enquiries in the neighbourhood where they had been in the habit of frequenting, and I could not meet with them—on 28th March, a week after the robbery, I went to the prisoner Nicholl's who keeps a beer-shop in Goswell-street—I asked if he knew of the robbery at Dr. Goss's—he said he did not—I asked if he had any knowledge of the two lads Hicks and Elliott. who had lived with Mr. Goss, and gave him a description of them—he said that two lads of that description had been at his house on the 21st; they remained there about a quarter of an hour; he knew nothing at all about them; he had never seen them before or since—on the Thursday following, the 31st, in consequence 4 of information, I went to West Coker, near Yeovil, in Somersetshire—I there saw a man named Randall, and received from him these two letters (produced) bearing the London post-mark—I was in plain clothes, and wore a cap while at West Coker—Nicholls afterwards saw the letters, at the post-office—I had sent my brother officer, Elsom, to Nicholl's house, for the purpose of procuring his writing, and, in consequence of what he showed me, I went to the house on Wednesday, 5th April, saw Nicholl's, and told him that I took him into custody on suspicion of being concerned, with others, in the robbery at Dr. Goss's—he said, "Very well"—I searched the house, and found this portion of the Morning Advertise newspaper of 27th March—I took him to the station, and on the road I told him I could show that he had written to Elliott—he said he had never written to one of them in his life—on the Friday following, in consequence of information I received from Mrs. Hatswell, I went the same night to Dartmouth, in Devonshire, and at the house of Mr. Fall, a boatman there,
I found the prisoners Hicks and Elliott—I said, "I want you, Hicks and Elliott, for the robbery at Dr. Goss's, in Paternoster-row"—they both said "Very well"—I took them into custody—I took them from Dartmouth to Totness in gig, and on the way there Elliott said, "If I had seen that old cap of your a little sooner you should have had a run for it"—I said "How did yoy know my cap?"—he said, "We got a description of your cap and your curly hair, too, at West Coker"—I told them I did not wish them to say anything to injure themselves—Elliott said, "Well; how do you think we shall get on: I suppose it will be seven years apiece"—"If it is, "said Hicks, "I can work at my trade"—"I can read and write," said Elliott "perhaps they will make me a shoolmaster"—I told them I could not possibly say how they would get on—at Totness, Hicks said, "If we had had a pistol, old fellow, I am d—d if you should have taken us so easily;" and Elliott turned round and said to him, "you b— fool, hold your tongue; this man has got a good memory, and he will; repeat all you have been saying."
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Why they were regularly chaffing and laughing at you were they not? A. No—I think they said there things seriously—they said it quite gravely.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Where did you find the news paper? A. Behind the bar—there were a dozen others at least—none were torn but this one.
MR. BALLANTINE. Q. You found the boys at Dartmouth? A. Yes; they told me they were about starting for Newfoundland, and if I had been a little later, I should have found they had started.
JAMES ADDISON NEWMAN. I am assistant clerk to the sitting Magistrate at Guildhall. Nicholls was brought there on 6th April—he made a statement—I have the original minute in my writing—(reads—the prisoner says, "A. stranger came in and asked me to write a letter, directed to E. Elliott; the same as last withness asked me to direct the other one.")—Elsam was the last witness—(Letter A was here read—"Addressed, Mr. E. Elliott, Mr. Randall, clerk, West Coker, near Yeovil, Somerset, 29th March. Dear Friends,—This comes with my best respects to you both, and to inform you that there is a terrible row in London, and they want both you;they are looking everywhere, but they can do nothing; the pump is good and the sucker is dry; your friends beg of you both to keep your own counsels; they cannot find out nothing, and they cannot do anything with you, and be sure to keep as I tell you; if money should run short your mother will send your some, and you will have your things down; but keep from London, and let nobody know what is what; send no letters to nobody, barring you know. I remain, yours, J. M. and W. N."
ANN MILLS HATSWELL. I am mother-in-law of the prisoner Nicholls. I do not know whether I wrote this letter (marked B)—it is like my writing—I cannot say it is mine—I have written several letters for Mr. Nicholls—I do not know whether this is one of them—I do not know the name of Randall—(The COURT informed the witness that she was not bound to answer these questions, if it might tend to criminate herself)—I am no criminal—I will answer it—I did write the letter by Nicholls' desire, and from his dictation.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Was any one there at the time you say you wrote it? A. Yes; a young man, a stranger to me—he did not tell me to write it—I cannot say whether he was a stranger to Nicholls—I was there a full hour—Nicholls asked me to write a letter for him, and I said, "Yes"—I bad written several before for him, and I thought it would make no difference—he said I could write plainer than he—I do not usually
write his letters—we have had a few words—I do not know how long it is ago—I do not remember the day when I wrote the letter—I wrote two or three letters for him—I know perfectly well that this is one which I wrote for him—I am sure it is my writing—I was so agitated at first, at coming against my son-in-law, that I did not know what to say—(Letter B was here read—"Directed, Master E. Elliott, Mr. Randall, clerk, West Coker near Yeovil, Somerset. Dear Friend,—I hope you are both well; as I am very unsettled at present, as the police has been and searched my house; they could not find nothing in my place, as I never had anything, therefore I had nothing to fear; if you know anything about this concern keep it to yourselves; if they should take you, they will separate you, to learn if you are both of one story, therefore keep your own counsel, and be of one story; they will tell you they will get you off, on purpose to get out of you all they can, therefore both of you stick to one thing, and know nothing; they can find nothing nowhere; they can do nothing with you if you keep your own counsel, and divulge nothing, it all rests with yourselves; they say it is no one else but you, but they cannot prove that, unless upon your own confession; do not attempt to come to London, nor let any one know where you are; your things are coming down to you;be sure and destroy all letters immediately; be sure, and be true Britons, and never come it; do not sport about, and show yourselves too much, as it is in the Hue and Cry, which reaches all over the world; do not send any more letters where you sent the others, in case they are waylaid and opened before it reaches me; if you write again you had better send it in another name, to be left at my house, that will bilk all suspicion; send me word whether you have received this letter, and destroy them all; do not mention my name in your letters, as I shall know what you mean; so good bye, God bless you both; from your well-wisher and friend. Goswell-street."—This letter contained a paragraph cut from a newspaper, containing an account of the robbery at Mr. Goss's.)
WILLIAM RANDALL. I live at West Coker, Somersetshire, and am uncle to the prisoner Elliott's mother. I belive my wife received this letter marked "A"—I received this one marked "B;" it contained this paragraph, cut out of a newspaper—(a corresponding paper of the same date was produced, which contained the same paragraph)—on the 2nd April I received a parcel, containing Elliott's clothes, and a note in the inside—I gave the letters to Haydon just in the same state in which I had received them.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Where were the boys when you gave Haydon the letters? A. I do not know; they had not been there at all then—I had opened one of the letters, and my wife one, and read them—I had not any communication from either of the boys to keep any letters for them—I did not know where to send them the letters—they had never been at my house then—my wife did not correspond with them to my knowledge—they never had the letters.
JOHN EBDEN. I am a printer's pressman, and live at 21, Eagle-court, St. John's-lane. I heard of the robbery at Mr. Goss's—I was in the habit of going to Nicholls's beer-shop, both before and after that—I knew Nicholls, and I know the other three prisoners; I have seen them there day after day—I think I first saw Murphy there on 24th March; that was after the robbery—Nicholls told me that Murphy had got a coat and hat; that was not said in Murphy's presence—I heard Murphy say that a man named Andy had pledged the coat—I had seen it; it was a dark cloth coat—I did not take any notice of it—I think it had pockets in front—Murphy said he had sent a
woman and got it out again—Nicholls, in my presence, showed a man names Richards two gold watches in front of the bar—he and Murphy were quarrelling about the price of them, and Murphy wanted them back or the money for them, and Nicholls said he had not got them in his possession; they were gone—I saw all the prisoners together after the robbery, in Nicholls's bar; I think it was on the Tuesday evening, as the robbery had been done on the Sunday—the robbery has been a common subject of conversation is Nicholls's house—I heard Murphy and Nicholls say that Elliott went to the place and asked for his shirt—Elliott was not present then—the boys had then been sent into the country by Nicholls—Murphy said they were sent away—I cannot say that he said so in Nicholls's presence, but I have heard it from them both—I have heard Nicholls say that the boys were in the country, not that he had sent them—Murphy told me they were in the country—I have heard Nicholls speaking about Murphy, and how the robbery took place; but that is all—he was not speaking to Murphy, but to me—I cannot say that anybody was present then—I know mr. Pearce, of St. John's street—I heard Murphy say (I do not know who else was present at the time) that he and the two boys went to Mr. pearce's house on the morning after the robbery, knocked him up, went inside, and stopped there all day, or nearly so—I do not remember hearing Murphy say anything to Nicholls about the two boys.
The COURT not being of opinion that there was sufficient evidence against any of the prisoners to call upon them for their defence, recommended the Jury to find them
NEW COURT.—Saturday, May 20th, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. THOMPSON; Mr. Ald. GIBBS; Mr. Ald. JOHNSON; and Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Sixth Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 40.— Confined Nine Months.
GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined Four Months.
GUILTY . Aged 43.— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 13.— Transported for Seven Years.
GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Six months.
GUILTY . Aged 32.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY , and his master engaged to take him again. Aged 14.— Confined Eight Days, and Whipped.
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Seven years.
GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Four Months.
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Four Months.
WILLIAM MASKELL pleaded GUILTY . Aged 52.
JOHN MASKELL pleaded GUILTY . Aged 22.
Confined Six Months.
1307. CATHERINE HALBOT , stealing 2 pairs of stocking, 1 sheet, and 1 table-cloth, value 18s.; and 2 sovereigns and 2 half-sovereigns; the property of James Richardson, her master; to which she pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 30.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 33.— Confined Six Months.
MESSRS. CLARKSON, BODKIN, and HUDDLESTON Conducted the Prosecution
BARNABAS PERRY. I am in the employ of Mr. Marlin, of Ebley, near stroud, Gloucestershire, a cloth manufacture. on 21st April I packed up 24 yards of superfine black cloth—it was rolled round quite tight, nearly as this other piece is—(producing one)—it was in canvass, and the number, 115336, was on the cloth inside—this small piece of cloth which the officer has, is part of it, and has the number on it—this piece of canvass was the covering in which it was enclosed—it has direction on it—it was worth about 22l.—it was going to Havant—I delivered the parcel to George Kane, between twelve and one o'clock the same day.
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN Q. Whose writing is this direction? A. Mr. Wheeler, our book-keeper's.
GEORGE KANE. I am in the service of Holmes and Co., carriers, of Stroud. On 21st April I received a truss of cloth from Mr. Perry, directed to "Mr. John Bulkbeck, woollen draper, Havant"—I weighed it, it was 1 qr. 6 lbs—I delivered it at the Stroud water station of the Great Western Railway—this the direction that was on it.
Cross-examined. Q. Had you any other trusses? A. I had nine that day, all from the same manufacturer—I observed the directions on them all—they were all coming to London—There were no others directed to Mr. Bulbeck—they remained in my possession about half an hour—no one else had anything to do with them—they did not pass out of my hands till I got to the station, and gave them to the porter about a quarter before one o'clock—he is not here—they were to come by the half-past two o'clock train.
JOHN CHAPMAN. I am in the employ of Henry harms, of the Angel I am yard, Farringdon-street. Goods are brought there from the Great Western terminus—on 24th April a waggon came from the Great Western Railway—I assisted to unload the goods—amongst other things I took out a truss like this, directed to Mr. Bulbeck, of Havant—we have a great many trusses of cloth—it was right and hard, and had the direction on it—it remained about half an hour—I took it in a cart to the New Inn, Old Bailey, and delivered it to Mr. Rolf, who keeps the booking-office there—this covering has the same direction on it.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you receive many parcels by that waggon? A. About a dozen or fourteen trusses, most of them cloth I believe—they were folded in the same way, but some were larger.
EDWARD ROLF. I keep the booking-office, New Inn, Old Bailey. On 24th April I received a truss from Chapman, directed to Mr. Bulbeck, Havant—I am in the habit of handling trusses of cloth—I can tell the feel of cloth—I noticed that truss particularly—I supposed it to be cloth, it was tight and firm—I delivered it to the prisoner in the same state as I received it.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you receive a large number of parcels? A. Only two on that day, and the other was twice as large as this—there were two or three ends of cloth in it—I saw this parcel at the police-court after it had undergone the alteration, and should have detected it in a moment.
JOHN BALDOCK the younger. I am nearly twelve years old—I live with my father, in Bird-cage-alley, in the Borough. I have been employed four years at the booking-office, at the Catherine Wheel Inn—my father works there—I was out with the cart that the prisoner had the care of on 24th April—at Mr. Rolf's, the New Inn, in the Old Bailey, a parcel was put in the cart like this truss—it was tight like this—I put it into an empty crate in the cart—there was nothing else in the cart but a box or a hamper—we were to take this parcel to the Catherine Wheel inn, in the Borough—We went up the Old Bailey and up Holborn-bill to Liquorpond-street—that is not the way to the Catherine Wheel—the prisoner did not say why he went out of the way—we went to a public-house in Liquorpond-street, and had a pint of beer and a biscuit—the prisoner paid for it—we were there about five minutes—he came out first and I after him—I stopped a short time, and when I got to the cart the prisoner and the truss were gone—I was frightened—I got into the cart and staid till the prisoner came—in about half an hour he brought the truss on his shoulder and put it in the cart—as we went along, the prisoner told me not to say anything, or else I should catch it—when we got to the Catherine Wheel I helped to take it out—it was then soft and flat—I felt at once that it was different to what it had been before—my master asked me if we came straight from the old bailey—I said yes.
Cross-examined. Q. Who put the truss in? A. The prisoner gave it me in the Old Bailey, and I put it into the crate—I saw Mr. Rolf—it was about two o'clock I should think—we were in Liquorpond-street about forty minutes—we got home about three—I saw my master between four and five—I took out the parcel when we arrived at my master's and gave it to the prisoner—my father was in the office—I told my master next day about our going to the public-house, and took the policeman there.
JOHN BALDOCK. I am in Mr. Polden's service. On 24th April I saw the prisoner bring a truss in—I did not feel it—I saw standing upright by the door—in about half an hour I weighed it—I saw the pencil-mark of the weight—it did not weigh what it was marked—it was soft—I asked my master to weigh it—it was 9lbs, lighter than it should have been—from the time I first saw it there was no opportunity for any one to alter it or touch it—it was not out of my sight five minutes.
Cross-examined. Q. How long did it remain in the office? A. I suppose nearly two hours—I was passing and repassing—I cannot tell how many parcels I received that day—this was the only one of this sort—it is my duty and interest to watch every parcel there—there were two other men there—I saw this truss go out to the railway—twenty other parcels may have gone with it—the cart came a little after three o'clock—I have been in Mr. Polden's employ twelve years—before that I was portering—I have been employed in the docks.
JAMES POLDEN. I keep the booking-office in Catherine Wheel Inn yard. The prisoner was in my employ—on 24th April I saw a truss in the ware-house directed to Mr. Bulbeck, of havant—this is the direction—I handled it—it was soft—it attracted my attention—I weighed it, it weighed 23lbs.—the mark outside was 1 qr. 4lbs.—it was 9lbs. short—it was not like this truss—if it had been such a one as this if had been altered—I was present in the evening when it was sent to New Cross station—I have not the least doubt that this soft one is it.
GEORGE FORSEY. I am porter to the London and brighton Railway. This truss was brought by Mr. Polden's van on 24th April—I took it in—I bent it double; it was very soft—I carried it to the receiving clerk—it was different from a roll of cloth—it was forwarded that day to Mrs. Buldeck's, at Havant—it came back again on the following Monday—I saw it—it appeared the same as I had seen it before—if I had carried this other truss in the morning, and afterwards had this one given me for the same, I should have known the difference.
CHARLES FLUTTER. I am in the service of Mr. John Bulbeck, of Havant. I received this parcel—it arrived there on Tuesday morning—I told the porter to put it down—I did not touch it then—on Thursday morning I cut away the cords took the canvass off and found a brown paper, and inside that, this piece of black cloth, about three quarters of a yards, wrapped round—it has the number on it—the paper has the same number, and I have the invoice, which has the same number—inside the cloth was a piece of oil-cloth, and in that a dirty sack, with an offensive smell from it—it contained cabbage leaves.
Cross-examined. Q. Where was the parcel till it was opened? A. In the shop, in the presence of my master, his two sons, and myself—some one is always there.
JAMES DYE. I keep the Griffin, Liquorpond-street. There is a court runs between my house and the brewery—I do not remember seeing the prisoner at my house—I saw the boy Baldock there, but I do not know when—a
man came to my house last Thursday week, and asked me about having seen the boy—I said it might be about three weeks ago or more—I suppose it was about two o'clock in the day when I saw the boy—I was backwards and forwards to the tap-room, carrying dinners to the persons there—the boy was eating a biscuit—I did not notice who paid for it, or whether anybody was with him.
Cross-examined. Q. When did you see him again? A. last Friday week—the man who came was a policeman in private clothes—if it were on Easter Monday when the boy came, it would not be a busy time; it would be rather slack—my wife serves in the bar.
GEORGE HYDE (City policeman, 516.) I took prisoner on 1st may, at the Catherine Wheel. I told him what the charge was—he said he knew nothing about it; he delivered the package in the yard the same as he had received it at the Old Bailey—Mr. Polden asked if he came direct from the Old Bailey to his yard—he said yes; he had no other place to go to—I said, "You were seen up Holborn"—he said it was not on that day—I took him to the station.
Cross-examined. Q. Are you the person who went with the boy to Liquorpond-street? A. Yes; I do not know on what day.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Had the boy described where the public-house was? A. Yes, and mr. Dye recognized him.
(Richard Fryer and Edward Kaye gave the prisoner a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 29.— Transported for Ten years.
MESSRS. BODKIN and PARNELL conducted the Prosecution.
THOMAS PICKETT (policeman, S 290.) On 21st March, about one o'clock in the morning, I was in the Holloway-road, near the Cock Tavern—there was a crowd of between twenty and thirty persons, singing hallooing, and swearing—I went up to them, and said, "I hope you good gentleman will go home peaceably and quietly"—they said, "You b—r, what do you mean?"—the prisoner was amongst them—after saying that, they knocked me down—I got up—they knocked me down again with their fists four times—I was cut over the eye, and kicked severely in the body—I have felt it ever since—I believe I got this wound over the eye with a fist—I was not struck with anything beside the fist then—I was afterwards struck with a staff across the forehead; I cannot say who by—it did not cut the skin—the men went away—I followed them down the lane leading to Holloway-road—they turned back, and said, "You b—r, turn back, or we will murder you"—they then turned, and came back to Holloway-road—I followed them—two of my brother officers came up—we went before the men, stopped them, and took two of them into custody—they then began knocking us about and throwing stones—the prisoner was still with them—I saw him throw several stones—I do not know that any stone thrown by him struck me—a stone struck me and cut my forehead—the men were fighting with the other officers, and trying to rescue a prisoner that they had—I saw the officer knocked down—several of the men were beating, kicking, and jumping on them—I went up to assist them, and then received this stone on my head, and a blow with a truncheon from one of the crowd, which knocked me down insensible—I was under the doctor's hands for a fortnight in consequence.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. What injury did you receive?
A. I had my head cut with the stone and with the staff—I was kicked violently about the body—I felt it all over—the men were all standing in the road, near the Cock Tavern—no one had complained to me that they were creating a disturbance—I did not strike the prisoner there—I had no chance—I struck some of them in the Holloway-road, near the King's Head—the blows did not fall on their heads—I struck them across the arms, to prevent their throwing stones—I did not strike above two or three times—I did not lose my truncheon—I had seen the prisoner a good many times—he was working for Mr. Carter, a builder, all last summer—when I got the wound, by the King's Head, the prisoner was within two or three yards of me—it was not him struck me with the truncheon.
ROBERT WILSON (policeman, N 103.) On the morning of 21st March, I saw Pickett following a mob—he complained to me—he had a cut in the eye, his face was all over blood—I and my companion attempted to take some of the party—my companion took one and I took another—there was a cry of "Rescue" by a prisoner, who was tried last session—I was struck by some one—I was knocked down on my knees, and my prisoner was rescued from me—I got up again, and was struck in all directions—the prisoner was one of the party—in about five minutes I saw Pickett injured by a stone—this row continued all the time—I got on one side, took out my staff, and struck one or two of them where I could—a fellow struck me in the eye—my staff was taken from me, and Pickett was struck with it—the prisoner was there then—I saw stones thrown—I saw Pickett had received an injury from a stone—there were about twenty-five persons in the party—we took two of them, who were tried last sessions.
Cross-examined. Q. Where was the prisoner when Pickett received the blow? A. Three or four yards from him—they had the stones in their hands close to us—there were three policeman there—I swear the prisoner threw several stones.
FREDERICK WILLIAM PRITCHARD (policeman, N 400.) I was with the other two officers—one man was given into my custody—there was a cry of "Rescue"—the prisoner was taking an active part in throwing stones—I could not see the stone which struck Pickett—my hat was knocked of—I took out my rattle—it was taken from me and broken
JOHN DONOVAN (policeman, S 77.) I went to the assistance of the party—the men had then been rescued—I saw the prisoner kicking Wilson, and I saw him afterwards throwing paving-stones, which were in the middle of the road—I could not distinguish Pickett—I did not see him wounded—the prisoner acted with the others in what they did.
WILLIAM NIXON. I was living in Wellington-row, Holloway. I was disturbed by a noise about half-past one o'clock, in the morning of 21st March, and by the springing of a rattle—I got out of bed—I looked out, and saw the policeman attacked by one man—a rescue of some persons was attempted—I heard a cry of "Cut his head off; cut the b—eyes out"—the policeman was knocked down—he got up and was knocked down again—the conduct of all the persons was very violent—between eleven and twelve o'clock, in the forenoon, I saw the prisoner there showing the bruises on his arms—some one asked him how he got them—he said, "From the row last night," and he said he would pay the b—for it the first opportunity.
JOHN OAKSHOTT. I am a surgeon, at Highgate. Between two and three o'clock that morning, Pickett was brought to me with a cloth round his head—his face was covered with blood—he had two wounds, one on his eyelid, and the other on the opposite templet—the wound on the eyelid was by a
sharp stone, or fist—the other I should suppose by a stick, or some blunt instrument—it was very much contused—he returned to duty in about a for night—he might have returned sooner but could not wear his hat.
Cross-examined. Q. That was from the hurt on his eye? A. No; from that on his brow—the cut on the eyelid was not dangerous—he had a good constitution—erysipelas might have ensued,
GUILTY of an Assault.— Confined Six Months.
RICHARD HAMMOND. I live in New-street, Shadwell. I met the prisoner on 18th April—I went to two public-houses with him, and then to a private house in Keate-street—he went up stairs—I said I should not go up there—he said, "Come in"—I went up—he said he had to call there on a friend, as I understood him—when we got up, he went out for something to drink—he was gone about ten minutes—when he came back he said, "I have kept you a long while waiting; do you know what the time is?"—I said, "Yes, but I think my watch stops"—I took my watch out—he caught it out of my hand, and ran out—I ran and held him by the hand—two men camp in and seized my arm, and the prisoner escaped—this was about a quarter before seven o'clock in the evening—I am sure he is the man; I can swear to his voice, as well as his person—I was in his company an hour and three quarters.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. A. He was quite a stranger to you? A. Yes—I gave him in charge five or six days afterwards—I caught him in Petticoat-lane—when he robbed me he had a frock-coat on; I think a dark olive one—I never said that the person who tool my watch wore a blue coat—I had drank two pints of half-and-half and a glass of grog—I was perfectly sober—I am a smith—I can drink a great deal more than that—when the prisoner first came up to me he said it was rather inclined to wet—I said yes—he then asked if I would accept a cheroot—I may have looked out at the window of the house—I did not beckon any girls—the prisoner asked me if I wanted a women—he opened the sash and beckoned, and a woman came up—he wanted me to have one, but I declined—I think I was ten or twelve minutes in the house—I and the men who had hold of me went down stairs together, to the best of my knowledge—I found myself at the bottom.
WILLIAM MASLIN (policeman, H 151.) I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction—(read—Convicted Aug., 1846, and confined six months)—the prisoner is the person, and he has been summarily convicted since, and had three months.
GUILTY. Aged 20.— Transported for Ten Years.
1312. AMOS BRETNALL , stealing 2 bits, 1 pair of reins, and 1 pair of hames, value 11s.; the goods of William Thomas Farcy; and 1 bridle, 1 bit, and 1 pair of reins; the goods of John pollard; having been before convicted.
Prisoner's Defence. I bought the harness in Smithfield, on the Monday morning.
GUILTY. Aged 18.— Confined One Year.
THIRD COURT—Saturday, May 20th, 1848.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq. and the Fourth Jury.
1313. JAMES KING, JOHN WILLIAMS , and JOHN KENERLEY , breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Webb, and stealing therein 1 handkerchief, value 2s., and 3 shillings; property; King having been before convicted.
FREDERICK ASHLEY. I lodge in the first-floor front room at 10, Caledonian-crescent, King's-cross. On Thursday morning I got up about six and saw the prisoner Kenerley leaning from the inside of the parlour window of Mr. Webb's house, nearly opposite me—the window was quite up, and one curtain rather crumpled and drawn out—he was looking towards the left; towards the crescent avenue—in a minute or two I saw the other prisoners standing in the crescent, outside the house, within fifty yards of each other—Kenerley got out of the window, dropped on to the cill of the next window, and came up the area steps and through the gate; they then went round the crescent, two of them together, and the other met them—they all then went together up to the window, as if they were going in again—Williams looked through the key-hole; the other two were on the pavement opposite the window, only the width of the pavement off—I then rapped loudly at the window—they all ran away, two one way and one the other—I informed the police about a minute afterwards.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. It is a double crescent? A. Yes—I live in the large circle, and about thirty yards from Mr. Webb's—I had never seen the prisoner before—I did not see them again till two days after, at the Police-court—I am sure Kenerley is the one that was looking out at the window; I knew him directly I saw him—one side of his face was all over blood, but I saw the other side—I know them by their faces and clothes.
ELIZA FANNY ASHLEY. I am wife of the last witness—he woke me on Thursday morning. I went to the window, and saw Mr. Webb's window open and the curtains drawn up a little—It was rather before six o'clock, I think—I saw King and Williams come in at the right end of the crescent, to wards Mr. Webb's—I swear to them—a man, who I think was Kenerley, came from the other end and joined them in the middle of the crescent—he was about his size—they all three passed Mr. Webb's, about the width of the pavement from it—Williams looked through the keyhole and the others in at the window—my husband made a noise, and they ran away
MARY ANN WEBB. I am the wife of William Webb, of 22, Caledonian-crescent. I went to bed on Thursday morning at one o'clock, I was the last up. I left the front parlour window shut and fastened, and drew the curtains—I left a tablet, some ornaments, a silk handkerchief, and a reticule with three shillings and a handkerchief in it, on the dining-room table—I was awoke by the police about a quarter past six, went into the parlour, found the
window wide open and the table moved three-quarters of a yard—I missed three shillings, a silk handkerchief, and an ivory tablet—I have not seen them since—the reticule was turned out on the table—I found a muddy been mark on the window-cill and on the chair.
WILLIAM WEBB. I am the husband of the last witness—this is my dwelling-house, and is in the parish of St. Mary, Islington. I was disturbed by the police, found the window open, and foot marks outside on the tops of the rails.
JAMES NIXON (policeman, N 242.) I received information from Mr. Ashley, and at ten minutes past six o'clock awoke Mr. Webb, and found the window wide open—I went into the room, and found it as has been, described.
King's Defence. I was at home at the time.
Williams' Defence. I was at home at the time.
GEORGE BAILEY. I live at 74, Oxford-street. Kenerley is my brother, He has always been honest—he has always worked at home—on this morning he started with me at six o'clock and was with me till ten—he had slept in the same room with me.
KING— GUILTY. Aged 23.
WILLIAMS— GUILTY. * Aged 18.
Transported for Seven Years.
KINERLEY— GUILTY. Aged 17.— Confined Twelve Months.
MESSRS. CLARKSON and BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN WILSON FOX. I am a lieutenant in the 12th Lancers. On 29th March we were stationed at the Hounslow barracks, I left a gold watch, chain and seals, in the watch-pocket of my bed—I had them in my hand at half-past six o'clock—I believe I returned them to the watch-pocket—I missed them at half-past ten—I believe this seal to be mine; it is exactly the pattern—I swear to this cornelian (produced.)
HENRY NOYES. I am a soldier in the 12th Lancers, and am servant to Lieutenant Fox—I went into his room about twenty minutes to eight o'clock on 29th, and missed his watch and seals—Sergeant Jecks showed me this part of a seal (produced)—I know the working of the gold—it is part of one of my master's seals—the impression on the cornelian is three foxes heads—Sergeant-major Marr showed me this cornelian—it is broken a little—it has a portion of my master's crest on it; one fox and a motto—it formed part of the other seal.
CHARLES MARR. I am Sergeant-major of the 12th Lancers. On the evening of 29th March, about half-past seven, I saw the prisoner in front of the officer's house—he walked past me round the corner, which would take him to the rear—he could get in then if the doors were open—that would lead to the lieutenant's room—I knew him by sight; he was a helper in the stables, and was perfectly acquainted with the premises—I received this cornelian from Hazell on the morning of the 31st, and gave it to Noyes.
just about dusk, I saw him in the barracks, near Mr. Fox's room—he went straight towards it—I stopped to see who it was—he moved on—knowing him I had no suspicion.
JOHN GIBBINS. I am nearly ten years old—the prisoner lives next door to me. On Thursday, 30th March, about two o'clock, he showed me two seals with stones in them—they were not broken—he called them brooches—I told him they were seals.
JOHN HAZELL. I am ostler at the George IV., near the Hounslow barracks. On 31st March, I was sweeping before the door and found this stone inside the yard gate—I gave it to Sergeant Marr—the prisoner was talking to me when Sergeant Jecks took him, about twenty yards from where I found the stone—he had been by that way—he was there at eight o'clock in the morning and at half-past two.
FRANKLIN JOSEPH BAKER. I am a watch-maker, at the Nag's Head, Hounslow. On 30th March, about half-past two o'clock, the prisoner same and offered me these three pieces of a seal—I had received information from Jecks—he did not ask anything for them—I consulted my uncle; he paid the prisoner the money while I gave information.
WILLIAM EDGAR. I am a labourer—the prisoner lodged with me. On 30th March, about half-past one o'clock, he showed me a gold send—it was whole, but the stone was out—he asked me what it was worth; I said two shillings and sixpence, and asked where he get it—he said he picked it up just outside.
CHARLES JECKS (police-sergeant, T 20.) I took the prisoner and told him the charge—he said nothing—I asked it he had sold the seal—he said "Yes"—I asked if he objected to say how he got it—he said he found it, about ten o'clock, at Powder-mill Bridge—that is nearly a mile from the barracke—the watch has not been traced.
Prisoner's Defence. I picked up the seal on the Staines road; I met a man named Palmer; he said it was not gold; I broke it to let him see that it was.
GUILTY. Aged 30.— Judgment Respited.
1315. SARAH PROSSER , stealing 1 watch, value 6l.; the goods of Elizabeth Stevens; and 1 watch, 2 rings, and other articles, value 37l. 13s.; the goods of John Theodore, her master; un his dwelling-house,
MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.
ELIZABETH THEODORE. I am wife of John Theodore, of the Stag, Fulham-road in the parish of St. Luke, Chelsea—the prisoner lived with me a month—on 25th April I received information from Stevens, my bar-maid, and went into my bed-room, on the second floor, about twenty-five minutes to three o'clock, and, from a box on the table, I missed a gold watch and chain, seal and keys, two diamond rings, a brooch, two gold hair pins, a mourning ring, and a gold keeper, and from the barmaid's room adjoining, a gold watch, and from the room below a gold pin and silver pencil-case—my box was unlicked—I had seen the things safe about five minutes to two o'clock—the value of them is about 50l.—I sent for a policeman and searched the house, but found nothing—the kitchen window looks into a yard which
leads into a skittle-ground adjoining the tap-room—about half-past one that day I was in the back kitchen, and saw the prisoner getting in through the window—she must have come from the yard—that gave her an opportunity of speaking to any one in the skittle-ground—I asked what she had been doing out there—she made no reply—she was servant of all work, and had no right in the yard or skittle-ground—it was after that I saw my property safe—the prisoner had no right in the bed-rooms in the middle of the day, as her work was done—I kept a purse in the drawer—persons who usually came into the bed-room would know that.
WILLIAM CUMMING (police inspector.) I was sent for to Mr. Theodore's about four o'clock, on 25th April—I satisfied myself that the robbery must have been done by some one well acquainted with the house, and in the house at the time—the place where the money was taken from was where a purse of money had been kept for a considerable time—the person must have known that, as the articles were taken from the corner in which the purse was usually kept—the corner was rummaged about—the prisoner was then brought to me from the kitchen—I said, "I must examine you: a serious robbery has been committed in this house"—she said, "Well; you may"—I put several questions to her—she said, "But why am I questioned more than any one else; I have not been up stairs since the morning"—I said, "It is necessary that all parties should be examined"—she was very reluctant to be examined—the barman was then examined—a few days afterwards, in consequence of what I heard from him, I gave instructions for the prisoner to be taken—she was searched, and nothing found on her—a person must pass the tap-room door to get to the skittle-ground, which is a very confined one, to pass through the window into the kitchen.
WILLIAM BEAL. I am barman to Mr. Theodore. On the Thursday afternoon about five minutes to two o'clock, I went into the bar and remained there till twenty-five minutes past two—the family were at dinner; they dined at two—there is a clock there—I could see the staircase that leads to my mistress's bed-room—the prisoner went up at five minutes past two—no one else went up in that time—I did not see the prisoner again till about twenty-five minutes to there, after the robbery—if any men had come in for refreshment I should have served them—I served no one in that interval—if any one came in they must have had some other object.
ROBERT M'KENZIE (policeman, B 5.) In consequence of information, I went to the Stag with the inspector and examined the house—two strangers could not have hit upon the money in the drawers—a corner of the drawer, where the money was kept was turned out; the other part was not disturbed.
ELIZABETH STEVENS. I was in Mr. Theodore's service. About twenty minutes past two, on this day, I saw two men walk very quickly out of the tap-room—that is a different room to the bar—the second one had one hand in his trowsers-pocket—he opened the door with the other—I turned round immediately, and saw the the prisoner come from the tap-room and go down to the kitchen—she had no business in the tap-room that I am aware of.
MARY MAXWELL. When the prisoner was remanded I was locked up in the same cell for being tipsy—she asked the gaoler to write her a letter—he said he could not, and told her to ask her fellow prisoner—he brought me pen, ink, and paper—she told me to write to her mother for a solicitor, and to tell her brother she was in trouble, and to bring her child to see her—I told her to tell her brother to do all he could to get a counsellor, and she said none of the property was found, and never would be—I said she would be transported if the property was found.
Prisoner's Defence. I was not in the bed-room that morning; the barmaid made the beds; the bed-rooms were all left open; the barman has said how easily any one might walk up into that room, and we should be none the wiser, and he was sure something would happen soon; and the barmaid said she thought so too, as she had bad dreams; Maxwell said she lived with a man who turned out to be a thief, and had got six months, and she wished she knew where she could commit a robbery, as she should value transportation; I went into the tap-room because the barmaid left a shovel there.
MARY MAXWELL re-examined. I never lived with a man, and never said I did, or that I wished to be transported—I was sober at the time—I was in the cell from three o'clock in the afternoon till eleven next day.
Prisoner. Q. You told me you robbed a gentleman of his watch? A. I did not.
GUILTY.* Aged 27.— Transported for Ten Years.
RACHAEL GINGER. I am a window, at Stanmore-street, St. Paneras—my dwelling-house. On Sunday afternoon, 2nd April, at four o'clock, I went out, and fastened the house up, leaving no one in it—I shut the door and locked it—I returned, with my daughter, a little before ten, and found the door unlocked; it was on the latch—we went in—the parlour-door and table-drawers were open—we missed some pen-cases, blankets, spoons a watch, brooches, and rings, from a drawer in my bed-room—they were all any property.
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. Has the door a spring-lock? A. Yes—I locked it, besides the spring.
RACHAEL GINGER, JUN. I am the daughter of the last witness. I left home before my mother—I returned with her—I went to open the door, and found it was not locked—I had only just to turn the key—I had seen the prisoners in the street, and knew their faces.
JAMES ROUSE. I live in Pratt-street, Camden-town. On 2nd April, between seven and eight o'clock, I saw the prisoners together in Stanmore-street—I knew them before—one had a cap, and the other a hat—they changed the hat and cap, and crossed over, one on each side of the street—they crossed back again, and went up to Mrs. Ginger's street door—(I did not then know whose house it was)—Johnson seemed to be putting a key in the door—Cummings was behind him, touching him—it did not open—they came down, and afterwards went back again—Johnson opened the door with something—they went in, put something in their pockets, and shut the door—I did not say anything about it till Monday night; I did not like to—I did not hear of the robbery till the next afternoon—I had no other reason—I did not say they went in, because their companions threatened that they would stab me.
Cummings. At the first examination he said he did not see us go in. Witness. That was so, because they threatened me.
Cross-examined. Q. Who was with you? A. Samuel Tasker, Oakey, and Young—I believe Tasker and Oakey are in this gaol—I did not meet a
policeman after the prisoners went in; we did meet one before—he ordered us off, as we were making a noise—I went to the bottom of the street, and came back again—it was three-quarters of an hour after that that the prisoner went in—we then went to St. Pancras' workhouse—we were in the work house, and had to be in at nine o'clock—I got there before nine—the other boys went home—they saw the prisoners go in—I was in trouble twelve months ago, at Clerkenwell, for getting goods by flase pretences; I got six months—I was in trouble six months before that, for robbing my master—I nineteen years old.
DANIEL SCANNELL. I am servant to Mr. Jewell, who keeps a medical bottle-warehouse. On Tuesday, 18th April, I was in Brook-street, New-road, and saw the prisoners, who I knew before, and three others—they all pitched on me, and knocked me down—when I was down, Thomas kicked me, and put his left-hand in my pocket—Grimes kicked me in the side, and put his hand over my mouth—they said nothing—I had three sovereigns in my pocket—a female called out "Police!"—they all ran away—the policeman took the prisoners—they did not get my money.
Thomas. You wanted us to fight, and fought three rounds with a little boy, who threw you down. Witness. It is false.
MATILDA WATSON. I was in Brook-street, and saw Scannell walking along—the prisoners knocked him down—he had done nothing to them—Thomas kicked him, and out his hand into his left-hand coat-pocket—Grimes put his hand over his mouth—I was twelve yards off—I called "Police!" and they all ran away—there were three more—two policemen ran after them—I knew the prisoners by sight, and am sure of them.
JAMES HANDLEY (policeman.) I was in Brook-street, heard a cry of "Police;" and saw Scannell rising from the ground, with blood coming from his mouth, and his coat covered with mud—he pointed out the prisoners, who were running away—I followed Thomas—he gained on me—I sprung my rattle, and he ran into another considerable's arms—he had a hat in his hand—he said it belonged to one of the others, who had run away—we went into the New-road, and took Grimes.
Thomas's Defence. I did not touch the man; a boy asked me to hold his hat while he fought with the prosecutor.
THOMAS— GUILTY* of an Assault. Aged 21.— Confined Six Months.
GRIMES— GUILTY of an Assault. Aged 19.— Confined Four Months.
CAROLINE HUGHES. I am servant to Henry Lewis Christopher Meyer, of Stafford-place, Pimlico. The prisoner came and asked if my master and mistress were at home—I said no, they were gone out together—he said Mrs. Meyer told him to call for his sister who was coming in the afternoon—I asked if Mrs. Meyer had told him so—he said yes, and he was to stay till his sister came—I had seen him there twice before, and knew his sister by coming there—I asked him into the parlour—he would not go in there, and went into
the kitchen with me—I afterwards went up stairs, leaving him there—I was the only person in the house—in about ten minutes I heard the street-door slam, ran down stairs, and found he was gone—I missed five table-spoons, ten tea-spoons, and the sugar-tongs, ail silver, from the kitchen cupboard—I saw them safe just before I let him in—I did not see him again.
Prisoner. Q. Did not you come down once for a can of water? A. Yes; I went up again in a minute—a lodger came in, he lets himself in with a key; other people get in by knocking.
MARY MEYER. I am the wife of Henry Lewis Christopher Meyer. This house is his dwelling-house, and is in the parish of St. Margaret, Westminster—I recollect the day the plate was lost—I did not tell the prisoner he might go to my house that day—his sister did live with me as servant—I lost spoons and sugar-tongs worth 11l. 10s.
Prisoner. Q. Did not you tell me to come at two o'clock, to dine with you? A. Certainly not—I did not kiss you, or tell you to come at two o'clock, and wait till your sister came.
Prisoner's Defence. I know nothing about it.
GUILTY.— Transported for Ten Years.
WILSON pleaded GUILTY .— Transported for Ten Years.
CHARLES FRENCH. I am in the service of William Hammond, of Russell-square. About half-past two o'clock in the afternoon of 18th May, I put seventeen forks, two gravy spoons, six dessert spoons, four ladles, one butterknife and other articles, into the pantry—about twenty minutes afterwards the area bell rang—Owen was there; he offered two combs for sale—I said I did not want any, and he shut the area door—the plate was then sale—there is a door from the area into the pantry—the window was then open from six to eight inches from the bottom—about a quarter of an hour afterwards I went into the pantry and missed the plate—the window was then wide open—somebody had lifted it higher, and the flower pots, which before were ranged in front of the window, were put all on one side—I alarmed the butter ran into Guildford-street, and at the corner of Greville-street saw Owen in Cramp's custody, who had these four forks (produced)—when I came back I found these combs on the dresser.
SAMUEL GREEN. I am butler to Mr. Hammond. On 18th May, about twenty minutes to three o'clock, French alarmed me—I went into the pantry, found the plate-tray empty and the window open—I ran out, and in about ten minutes I saw Owen in Cramp's custody, at the corner of Greville-street—this plate is my master's and is worth 40l.
HENRY LONG. I live at 3, Robert-street, Bedford-place. Between two and tree o'clock on this day, I was in Guildford-street, and saw Wilson running, and heard a fall of plate on the pavement—Owen picked it up—he turned in a different direction, threw away four forks, and ran into Cramp's arms—the other one turned towards the Foundling—I followed, and missed
him between some cabs in Guildford-street—I went into Mecklenburg-squre and told two policemen—I returned, and when near the Foundling I saw a cab, and Wilson in it, in custody of a policeman—I had picked up the plate which Owen threw away, and gave it to Cramp.
JOHN CRAMP. I live at Lamb's Conduit-passage. I was cleaning the window, and saw the prisoners pass, with something bulky under their coats,—Wilson gave Owen four forks, who dropped them—I immediately pursued them, and received Owed, and the forks from Long.
Owen. Q. Did you see Wilson give me the forks? A. In your hurry to receive them you let them fall on the kerb.
EDWARD HARRIS (policeman, E 17.) I received information from ling, and found Owen in Cramp's custody—I received him and the four forks—he said he heard a cry of "Stop thief!" and saw a boy running, who dropped some forks, and he picked them up—I afterwards received the plate which was found in the cab.
GEORGE FIGGURES. I am in the service of Dr. Roots, of Russell-square. I was with my master's carriage, and saw two boys, who answer the description of the prisoners—one of them had something in a yellow handkerchief.
Owen's Defence. I heard a cry of "Stop thief!" and saw a boy drop four forks; I picked them up, and ran after him, and a gentleman took me.
(Isaiah Henry Cohen, china dealer, gave Owen a good character.)
OWEN— GUILTY.— Transported for Ten Years.
GUILTY on 2nd Count.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY , and received an excellent character.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY. Aged 28.— Confined Twelve Months.
(There was another indictment against the prisoner for a like offence.)
RUPERT COPE. I am foreman to James Tomlin, a foour-factor, of Blackfriars. I take in and deliver flour—George Simmonds, of Gordon-street, is a customer—the prisoner was Mr. Simmonds's carman—on 2nd May, between three and four o'clock, he brought a horse and cart, and said his master had sent for five sacks of flour—I understood him to mean Mr. Simmonds—I asked for his order—he said he had not got one—I asked why—he said he came away in a hurry without it—I had been in the habit of letting him have flour for Mr. Simmonds, and let him have five sacks, worth 9l. 10s.—he put his name in this book (produced)—he had been in the yard the day before for flour—I went out of the counting-house, and saw the horse and cart—I said, "George, this is not Mr. Simmonds' horse and cart"—he said, "No, it is one he has borrowed, as the wagon is at Hounslow."
Prisoner. I did not mention Mr. Simmonds'name; I said I had come for five sacks of flour; you never asked for the order.Witness. He said he came from his master, that he had not brought an order, and he hoped I
should not detain him but let him have them as quick as possible—I do not think he mentioned Mr. Simmonds'name, till he said Mr. Simmonds borrowed the cart.
Prisoner's Defence. I was employed by a man to fetch flour; when I came out he took the horse and cart and went away; I did not know it was not settled for.
GUILTY. Aged 28.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY of Assault. Aged 40.— Confined Six Months.
OLD COURT.—Monday, May 22nd, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. RECORDER; Mr. Ald. MUSGROVE: and Mr. Ald. FINNIS.
Before Mr. Recorder and the Third Jury.
GUILTY .—He received a good character, and was recommended to mercy— Confined Fourteen Days.
GUILTY . Aged 24.— Transported For Seven years.
GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined Six Months and Whipped.
GUILTY .— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined One Year.
GUILTY .—Recommended to mercy— Confined One Month.
GUILTY .— Confined Eight Days.
THOMAS SCOTT. I am a cheesemonger, at Bethnal-green. On 4th Feb the prisoner was at my house, and went into the parlour, where my watch was—I missed it about three minutes after he came out—this is it (produced)
Cross-examined by MR. BALDWIN. Q. When did you first see the prisoner? A. On the 3rd—I was standing outside my shop door, putting the window to rights—he came up and said he wanted a bed—I understand Portuguese a little—I did not see him again for two months—he was them at the House of Detention—I am certain he is the man.
THOMAS BALL. I am in the service of Mr. Putley, a silversmith, at Newington-causeway. On 5th Feb. the prisoner came with this watch, and motioned with his hands that it would not go—he left it, and said he must have it by twelve o'clock—he came about halt-past eleven or twelve, but did not have it then—about half-past one he came again, and paid half-a-crown for it—that was not enough, and he promised to come again on the Saturday—he came again on the Monday with another man, and paid 5s.—I have not doubt he is the person.
Cross-examined. Q. Had you ever seen him before? A. No—I saw him next in about seven or eight weeks, at the Thames Police-court—he was not then brought up with other people, he was by himself.
JAMES WARR. On Sunday, 6th Feb., I saw the prisoner—he came past me and said something about a watch—I thought by his motions that it was in pawn—I went with him on Monday to Mr. Putley's, and paid 5s. for cleaning the watch, and afterwards pawned it for him, in Bermondsey-street, for 3l., as he said he wanted to go to Liverpool to get his pay—this is the watch—he received the 3l., and I kept the ticket for the 5s. I had advanced him.
Cross-examined. Q. Where did you become acquainted with him? A. I saw him as I was coming out of my sister-in-law's gate—he was talking to an Irishman, who could not understand what he said, and spoke to me—I did not see him after 6th Feb. till 14th April, when he was at the Police-court—he went with me to the pawnbroker's.
RIETA PARRADY. I am the wife of William Parrady, of Brown Bear-alley, Aldgate. On 21st Jan. the prisoner went home with me, and slept at my place—next morning I missed from a box a watch, an accordion, six shirts, six silk and three cotton handkerchiefs, a shawl, three waistcoats, and 1l. 6s. in money, and 4s. from my pocket—they had all been safe the night before—the prisoner left at about half-past six in the morning, while I was asleep.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you know him before? A. No—there was no one but him in the room.
ELIZABETH MILLER. On 20th or 21st Jan. the prisoner came home with Mrs. Parrady—I saw him in her bed-room—I locked the door outside, and put the key underneath—next morning Mrs. Parrady told me she was robbed—I had seen the things safe about four or five o'clock in the afternoon—no one could get into the room.
Cross-examined. Q. what time did she make the complaint? A. About seven o'clock—I do not know whether he had then gone out; it he had he must
have opened the door, and must have left it unlocked—the street-door opens with a latch inside—she missed her things directly he was gone.
ROBERT GIFFORD (policeman, H 89.) I apprehended the prisoner on 7th April, at the Brixton House of Correction—I told him I wanted him, for robbing, at lady—he said, "No, no, no"—that was all I could get from him—I found 13s. on him.
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported For Seven Years, with a recommendation that he be imprisoned one year, on condition of his then leaving the country.
1335. CHARLOTTE DUTTON and CHARLOTTE BEST , stealing 1 watch, 1 guard, 1 seal, 2 keys, 1 purse, value 7l.; 2 half-crowns, and 5 shillings; the property of Robert usher, in the dwelling-house of Samuel Peter Griffiths; Dutton having been before convicted.
ROBERT USHER. I live at Praed-street, Paddington, and am in the employ of the Great Western Railway Company. On 26th March I fell in company with the two prisoners, and went with then to a lodging-house in George-street, Lisson-grove—we had some gin—I had my watch and some money—when I went to bed I put my watch under my head in my trowsers-pocket—when I awoke, between two and three o'clock in the morning, the prisoners were gone, and my trowers were lying by my side—my watch was gone, and the chain, worth 4l. 10s., and a purse containing 10s.—I had opened my purse in the prisoners' presence when I sent for the gin.
Best. Q. Did not we awake you before we went, and shake hands with you? A. No.
JOSPEH NIFTON (policeman, D17.) I took Dutton into custody on Monday morning, 27th March—she denied her guilt, and said she would not be sacrificed as she was before; that Charlotte Williams had done it, and had shown her the watch near Trinity Church, in the New-road, which in a mile from the house—Best goes by the name of Williams.
EDMUND CALLAHAN (policeman, D 134.) I found Best in Chapel-street, Edgware-road, and told her I wanted her, for robbing a man of his watch and some money—she said, "You are talking romance, I do not know nothing about it"—I took her to the station, and before we had gone many yards we met the prosecutor—he said, "That is the other girl"—2s. 9d. was found on her.
SOPHIA GRIFFITHS. I am the wife of Samuel Peter Griffiths, and keep the house, 10, George-street, Lisson-grove. On 26th March the prisoners were there with the prosecutor—they both said they would pay for the bed in the morning—at three o'clock in the morning I was awoke by the prosecutor, who complained of being robbed, and asked me if I knew them—I informed him what names they went by—he did not seem in liquor—he had sent for two sixpenny-worths of gin—some people get up at three or four to go to work—the prisoners had been in the house before, and sometimes stayed till morning.
(Dutton put in a written defence, stating that they were both the worse for drink; that the prosecutor only gave them 2s. each, which was not enough to pay for the night, and he agreed to stop an hour; that he then bid them good-bye, and said he should see them again next morning; and that she saw no watch in his possession.)
ROBERT USHER re-examined. I did give them 2s. each, and had not above 10s. left—there was no agreement made about how long we were to stay—I was asleep when they went out—I am sure I had my watch before I went up stairs.
DUTTON— GUILTY. Aged 26.— Transported For Seven Years.
BEST— GUILTY. Aged 25.— Confined One Year.
1336. RICHARD JACKSON and JOHN WILSON , burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John Bennell Cutler, and stealing 1 till, 1 coat, 1 handkerchief, 1 eigar-box, and 100 cheroots, 2l. 10s., 1 half-crown, 113 shillings, 18 sixpences, 4 groats, 49 pence, 196 halfpence, and 14 farthings, his property; Jackson having been before convicted.
MR. BALDWIN conducted the Prosecution.
EDWARD WIGLEY (policeman, H 141.)On the morning of 19th April was going down Battye-court, by the Red Lion public-house, in Battye-street, which leads into the Commercial-road, in the parish of St. George's in-the East, and heard a rustling—I went round to the back, looked over the wall of the Red Lion yard, and saw Wilson kneeling down and putting the contents of a till into a cap—I said "You are up early this morning, "—he said, "Yes, I lodge here, "—I said, "How long have you lodged here?"—he said, "About Five months?"—I said, "That is all right"—I went up the courtime the street and sent for assistance, when I got back they had escaped into the next yard and left the cap, part of the money, and the till—they were not out of sight—I saw them go towards North-street—I went out of the court and saw Wilson coming towards me—he turned back again, and went back to the court, I lost sight of them—I saw no more of them till they were in custody, Wilson about half a minute afterwards, and Jackson about four minutes afterwards—I am quite certain they are the men—I knocked up Mr. Cutler, and found in the yard the till, the cap, 12s. 7 1/2d. in copper, and 6d. in silver, some was in the till and some in the cap—the back parlour and kitchen windows were open.
PIERCE DRISCOLL (policeman, H 24.) In consequence of an alarm I went towards North-street, and saw Jackson in the back yard, getting over the wall—he got into the house No. 15, and as he was coming through that yard I took him—he had no cap or hat on, but two coats—this (produced) is the outside one—I took him to the Red Lion, and in the coat-pocket I found 90 cheroots, 1 half-crown, 4 fourpenny-pieces, and 17 sixpences, a chisel, a knife, and this silk handkerchief (policeman, H 140.) On the morning of 19th April I heard an alarm, and saw Wilson running down Back Church-lane, which is near Battye-street, without either cap or hat—I stopped him—he said, "It is all right, it was not me, let me go"—he tried to get away, and I threw him on the ground—Wigley came up and we took him to the Red Lion—I found nothing on him.
JOHN BENNELL CUTLER. I keep the Red Lion public-house, in Battye-street, Saint George's-un-the-East. On the night of 18th April I went to bed about half past twelve o'clock—I was the last up—the house was all secured and fastened, the parlour-window with a brad-awl—there is a high wall at the back, and a fence on the top—the kitchen window was shut, but not fastened—they could not have got in that way without also breaking an inner door, and that was not done—they must have got in at the parlour window—when I went to bed I left this till (produced) in the bar, and about 1l. 18s. or 2l. in it, in half-crowns, shillings, sixpences, fourpennu-pieces, and some copper—I was aroused in the morning between five and six by the police, found the parlour window open, and missed the till and money, a box of
cheroots similar to these (produced), and a coat which was hanging up in the bar parlour, with this handkerchief in it.
Jackson's Defence. I was coming from Billingagate-market and met Wilson; he asked if I was going home, I said yes; I went down Battye-court to case myself; he said there was a coat over the wall; I saw a cap, we went over the wall and found the money and things; the policeman came and said I was up early that morning; I said yes, but I did not say I lodged there.
JACKSON— GUILTY. Aged 22.— Transported for Seven Years.
WILSON— GUILTY. Aged 20.— Confined One Year.
JOHN GREGORY. I live at No. 4, Lucas-place, Commercial-road, in the parish of St. Dunstan's, Stepney, and am one of the bailiffs of the Whitechapal County Court—the prisoner is my son, and is 17 years of age—I was called up about half-past five o'clock, and found the first-floor back-room window open, a piece of glass large enough to admit a person's hand had been forced from the outside—it had been fast the night before—I missed a silver watch and chain, and a parrot—some time after that I saw my son in the street, and asked him what he had done with the watch and the parrot that he had taken from the house, he denied it, and I told him the parrot had been seen in his possession, on the Tuesday morning—he had been taken to the station house, but told a plausable tale, and they suffered him to leave with the parrot—he afterwards said, "Well I sold the parrot for half-a-crown, to a delaer at the entrance of London Dock gate, and the watch and chain to a man in Petticoat-lane, for 5s."—it was worth 20s. or 30s.
WILLIAM CHARLES POTTER (policeman, K 212.) I received the prisoner in charge from his father, and told him what he was charged with—he said he knew nothing about it—on the way to the station he said he would tell the truth, he had sold the parrot for 2s. 6d., at the London Dock gate, and the watch to a Jew, in Petticoat-lane, for 5s.—I received two tickets from his father, which I showed him, and asked him if he knew them—he said, "Yes, that is right;I took them and pawned them."
SAMUEL HAYES (policeman K 114.) On Tuesday morning, 2nd May, about half-past one o'clock, I saw the prisoner at the top of Lucas-street, about twenty yards from his father's, with a parrot in the bosom of his jacket—I asked him where he got it, he said, from on board a ship—I asked what he had been doing with it all day, he said he had it in his bosom all day, and he went to the play with it, and the London Dock gates being licked he could not get in, he was going off to Stopney to his mother—he has no mother living there.
HEPZIBAH OAKEY. The prisoner have me this parrot on the Tuesday morning of the week it was taken—he came to the institution where I was singing, and said he had a parrot he was taking care of, and asked if I would accept of it—I asked if it was his own, he said yes, that his aunt was gone into the country for a week to fortnight—I kept it for two days, and then reading an account in the paper that a sailor was taken up for stealing a parrot, I took it to Mrs. Gregory's, and found it was hers.
Oakey, the watch and chain were kept hanging up in a room on the same floor, at the bedside—my wife lives with me—I have eight children besides the prisoner—he is the second—he had been to sea—he had two situations before that, and was turned away for dishonesty—he went one voyage to Calcutta, and on his return refused to go any more—he has been robbing me for the last five months—he used to take things and keep away for a week or two, and then come home—I have taken him back three times, and each time, he has promised to reform, but after being at home three or four weeks he has broken out again.
GUILTY. Aged 17.— Transported for Seven Years.
(There were three other indictments against the prisoner.)
MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the Prosecution.
SAMUEL LOCKS. I live at 71, Bethnal-green-road, and was in the employ of Mr. James Latham, a timber-merchant, up to 29th April—Allen was is his employment eight years—his premises adjoin Mr. Latham's—they communicate by a door leading from the yard into his house—we used to use it as a shed to keep things in—I had charge of the premises—there was a large stock of rosewood and mahogany veneer—Hall has been in Mr. Latham's employment—on 5th May, a week after I had left the employment, Pether gave me some information, in consequence of which I went to Hall's house and found a bundle of veneers, the property of Mr. Latham—they were on the premises up to the time I left.
SAMUEL PETHER. I am in Mr. Latham's employment. On 5th May I was standing at the corner of Swan-street, and saw Hall coming in a direction from Mr. Latham's, and about twenty yards off, with a bundle of veneers—he went across Church-street—directly after I saw Allen following—I followed them to Sebright-street—Allen went in to No. 92, there, took the veneers from Hall, and Hall went back—I gave information to Mr. Lock, and he, I and a policeman went together to No. 92—I saw the prisoners there—I found the veneers there—they were the same I had seen Hall carrying, and are Mr. Latham's property—the policeman asked me in the prisoners' presence which of the prisoners I had seen carrying them—I said, "Hall"—Hall said, "That is right, Sam."
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. When you first saw Allen was he nearer to Mr. Latham's than Hall? A. Yes—I have worked there four years—they did not go direct to Sebright-street, but about three quarters of a mile instead of a quarter, and when they got about 200 yards from Mr. Latham's premises, Allen took the veneers from Hall and carried them to Hall's house.
EDWARD BLAIR (Policeman, K 367). I went to 92, Sebright-street with Pether, and saw the prisoners there—Hall said he had nothing to do with it, his father-in-law fetched the veneers to his house—Allen is Hall's father-in-law.
JOHN KERSEY (Policeman, K 112) I went to this house—I asked Hall if he lived there—he said yes—I asked how the veneers came there—he said "My father-in-law brought them there, that is all I know about them"—I afterwards searched the house and found eight pieces of mahogany veneer, four feet long, and some smaller pieces
Cross-examined. Q. Hall has never been employed by you as a sawyer? A No; he left from nine to ten months ago—up to that time I had no reason to suspect anything wrong in Allen—I saw property of mine at his house on the Sunday morning, and took it away.
ALLEN— GUILTY. Aged 44.— Confined One Year.
HALL— GUILTY. Aged 23.— Confined Six Months.
(There was another indictment against the prisoners.)
JOHN BOLTON. On 16th May, about one o'clock, I was on my way home over the Crooked Billet Bridge, at Staines—the prisoner Johnson, and three other women were sitting by the water-course—Johnson jumped up, put one arm 'round my neck, and the other hand into my small clothes—she said, "Give me a pint of beer"—I said, "I have not got any money, I cannot give you any beer"—after I got away from her I found my watch was gone—I went back and charged her with stealing it—I applied to the police—this is the watch (produced.)
JEREMIAH PETTIT (policeman, 134) In consequence of information, I went and found the prisoners together on a bank by the road side, at Hounalow—I asked Johnson what she had done with the watch she stole from the old man at Staines—she asked what I meant, and said I might search her if I thought proper—I asked Allen if he had the watch—he had one, it was his own—after some time he gave me this watch, and Bolton said it was his.
Allen. I said it was not my own. Witness. You said was your own, and refused to be searched for some time.
JOHN BOLTON re-examined. I did not see Allen near the Crooked Billet—I followed Johnson, and found her and Allen sitting down in a field, and asked her to return the watch, and I would give her a shilling—Allen then came up and said, "What watch? we have been stopping at Stanwell, we have not been near Staines," and he said I had better get a policeman—I had seen the watch safe in my pocket five minutes before I lost it.
Johnson. I beg for mercy; it is the first time.
Allen's Defence. I did not know it was stolen.
Confined One Year.
HENRY AUGUSTUS WEBSTER. I am mate of a barge which was lying in the Thames. I hung my watch up in the cabin, and missed it at four o'clock in the afternoon of 11th May—a person on deck could reach it through the skylight—it was cut away, and part of the guard left hanging on the nail—the prisoner went ashore a short time before—I gave him in charge, and found the watch at a pawnbroker's.
SAMUEL SMITH I am in the service of Mr. Child, a pawnbroker, of Shadwell. The prisoner pledged this watch for 1l. 10s.—I said it looked new, and asked if it was his own—he said, "Yes; how much do you think I gave for it?"—I said 5l. or five guineas—he said, "I gave five guineas for it."
on board the barge, and saw the prisoner, between three and four o'clock reaching over the skylight, in such a position that he could reach the watch.
Prisoner's Defence. The steward asked me to pledge it; I took him the money.
GUILTY. Aged 20— Confined One Year.
WILLIAM HILL I am a builder, of Philpot-street The prisoner was in my service, and sold lime and sand for me—it was hid business to enter in this book (produced) what he sold daily—I found he had received 2s. from John Adhern, and not accounted fot it—I taxed him with it—he said he had never served any one with it—I asked if he had served any one at Rother-hithe with it—he said, "No"—I asked what the one bushel of lime and two bushels of sand were in the book—he said he said he served that to a person who came to the yard frequently—he paid me for the entry he made—he has accounted for 1s. 2d., but that is no part of the other.
JOHN ADHERN. The prisoner served me with two bushels of lime and three of sand, at Mr. Hill's yard—I paid him 2s. for it—I did not know his before—there was a man with me named Springett, but he was not in the habit of going there—he is not here—the prisoner denied the charge before the Magistrate.
Prisoner's Defence. I never had the money, and never saw him.
NEW COURT.—Monday, May 22nd, 1848.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq. and the Fifth Jury
GUILTY . Aged 35.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 31— Confined Three Months.
CHARLES ILSLEY. I live in Wellington-street, St. Luke's. On 15th April, between one and two o'clock in the morning, I met the two prisoners at the end of Brick-lane, Old-street—they came up and spoke to me—I stopped talking a few minutes, and they began to pull me about—I found Brown's hand in my pocket, and saw her hand pass to Handley, who was close by—I heard three or four sovereigns drop—I stooped to pick them up—I
had previously had some loose silver in my right-hand trowser's pocket, gold ring, and twelve sovereigns, and one half-sovereign, in a purse—I know that I had the money in my pocket at the time I saw them—I put my band into my pocket after I saw Brown take her hand out, and I found nothing but the loose silver—the purse had been put back into my pocket, but it had nothing in it; the twelve sovereigns and a half, and the ring, were gone—I never saw the purse out of my pocket—I accused the prisoners of robbing me—they said the money they dropped was money they had taken over night—I called two policeman to my asistance—some money was heard in Brown's mouth—it was not found; she swallowed it—I saw them stoop and pick up the remainder of the money, except one sovereign, which I picked up—Brown told Handley to pick up some money, and Handley picked up some; I cannot say much—when the officers came up, I said that Brown had some money in her mouth—I saw her pass something to her mouth, and heard it rattle against her teeth—I had hold of her hand at that time—the officers took charge of both the prisoners—Handley struggled very much, and when we came back from the station we found the gold ring in the kennel, on the spot—this is it (produced)—I can swear to it by its being scratched round the edge, and bent in two or three places—I have it in my possession since my wife died—it was her wedding-ring.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Where did you happen to be when you found the hand in your pocket? A. just in a a little court in Brick-lane—I was partly obliged to go up the court; they pulled me—I cannot say how long I stood talking with them—I should have gone home, and not spoken to anybody, if they had not come and pulled me about—I am a milkman—Handley might be there or four yards off when Brown's hand was in my pocket, and when Brown passed the money over to her I heard it drop—I was sober—I had had a little business to attend to that night with my brother—I went up the court against my will—I have got one sovereign: I do not know where the rest is—I had been at a gin shop, at the corner of Featherstone-street—I had had some gin and water and some half-and-half, in company with my brother and another gentleman—I believe it was about one o'clock when I left, and it might be twenty minutes or half an hour after that I met the prisoners—I had been walking on the pavement—I cannot say how many other women I saw before I saw the prisoners; I do not belive I saw above one or two—I had not been drinking at public-houses before I went to the gin-shop—I cannot say how much I drank that afternoon—I am not in the habit of getting drunk.
JOB SMITH (policeman, G 44.) About half-past one o'clock, in the morning of the 15th April, I heard a scuffle up a court in Brick-lane—I and Reeves went up, and found the prisoners and the prosecutor, who was making a desperate effort to keep them in the curt—he said, "They have robbed me of twelve sovereigns and a half, and a ring"—he said Brown had put, her hand in his right-hand trowser's pocket and took it out from a purse, and she had just put some in her mouth; but previously, in passing some of the money to Handley, it had dropped, and that one said to the other, "Pick it up"—he said, "I have picked up a sovereign myself; they have picked up the rest"—the prisoners said they had not robbed him—I took Handley, and my brother officer took Brown—Handley made great resistance, and I saw her throw her hand on one side, and heard something fall, but I could not say what—I saw Brown with her hand towards her mouth, and I heard something rattle in her mouth; I could not distinctly say what it was, but I
thought it was the money—she appeared to be nearly choked—I told my brother constable to put his hand towards her mouth, and tell her to spit the money out—he did so—she was some minutes before she spoke, and her face was very red—she was then just out of the court, in the lane, near a at light—in a minute or two after, she spoke, and said she had not swallowed the money—I went to the station, and then went back and found this gold ring just on the sopt where Handley was making resistance to get away.
Cross-examined. Q. where were the parties when you first got up A. Just in the mouth of the court—it is not thoroughfare—it might be about twenty minutes before I came back to the place—I did not pick up any money—I belive this is not the first time I have said that Handley moved her hand and threw something away—I will not swear I said it before—I might have made a mistake—the prosecutor was perfectly sober.
JOHN REEVES (policeman, G 95.) I was with Smith—I took hold of Brown—I heard something rattle in her mouth—I took hold of her throat, and asked what she had got in her mouth—she said, "Nothing, "but it seemed as if she swallowed something before she spoke—she said had not robbed him, and did not know anything about the money—I took her to the station—I did not go back.
CHARLESS ILSLEY re-examined. I did not stop and talk to any other woman before I saw the prisoners—I was walking along from Featherstone-street to Brick-lane; that might not take me twenty minutes—I had my brother with me, and Mr. Pardy—I stopped talking with them a few minutes—I had left my brother about two minutes when this happened—he keeps a public-house in Drury-lane.
BROWN— GUILTY. Aged 18.— Transported for Seven Years.
HANDLEY— GUILTY. Aged 21— Confined Twelve Months.
MR. PARRY conducted the Prosecution.
AEMEED DAVENES. I am a provision-merchant, in Turnmill-street, Clerkenwell The prisoner was in my service about six years, and great confidence was placed in him—he was the habit of visiting my customers, to take out goods, deliver and sell them, and he had authority to receive money—on 31st May last he accounted for 30l., received from Mr. Woodley; on 24th July, for 15l. 13s. from the same gentleman; and on 7th Oct., for 7l. 19s. 6d.—if he received, on 31st May, 35l., he has never accounted to me for the 5l.; if on 24th July he received 18l. 12s. 3d. he has never accounted for the 2l. 19s. 3d.; and if, on 7th Oct., he received 9l. 19s. 6d. he has never accounted to me for the odd 2l.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Point out the first item in your book? A. This is it—here is 30l. accounted for—every page of this book is added up—I sometimes make these entries, and sometimes my wife—they are made from the prisoner's own book—I have not his book here of 31st May, but I have the receipt from Mr. Woodley—on 24th July the entry is mine—this is from the prisoner's book likewise—I have the prisoner's book here—this is the prisoner's writing, "15l. 13s."—on 7th Oct. the entry in his book, in his writing, is "7l. 19s. 6d."—he had to go the docks, and receive eggs rabbits, and other things, from the foreign vessels, and then to take them
round to the customers and sell them—his salary was 25s. a week—he did not come to me very early in the morning—he came about seven o'clock—the vessels commonly come in in the middle of the day—whatever time they came, it was his duty to meet them—I have other persons to perform the same duty, and they collect likewise—the prisoner was not kept out late at night on my business—he had been shopman to his father-in-law—I am not aware that he introduced me to his father-in-law's customers—if he paid anything on my account I always paid him back—whin he came home it was his duty to hand over the same evening what money he had received—he has very seldom handed it over the next day—if he came home so late that we were gone to bed, he might have kept the money, once or twice—he sometimes handed money to my wife, and when it has been counted he might hand it to other persons—I am not aware that he ever handed it to two boys—I think I have received it from the servant-girl, but I di not remember that I have from the boys—if my wife received it, she put it into the cash-box—she keeps my books.
ELLEN SARAH DAVENES. I am the prosecutor's wife. On 31st May the prisoner accounted to me for 30l., not for 35l.—on 24th July he accounted to my husband for 15l. 13s., and on 7th Oct. for 7l. 19s. 6d., he did not account to me for any part of them.
WILLIAM CHARLES WOODLEY. On 31st May I paid the prisoner 35l. on account of his master; on 24th july, 18l. 12s. 3d.; and on 7th oct, 9l. 19s. 6d., on account of Mr. Davenes—these are the prisoner's bills and receipts.
Cross-examined. Q. How long have you know him? A. About twelve years—when I first knew him he was in the employ of Mr. Page, in Blackfriars-road.
Cross-examined. Q. What money did you find on him? A. 2s. 6d., which was ordered to be given up to him—I found no money at his lodging—he has a wife and child.
GUILTY. Aged 31.— Transported For seven Years.
(There was another indictment against the prisoner, and the prosecutor stated that he had lost nearly 200l. by him.)
ISAAC WILCOX. I am a tailor, at Little Bell-alley, Coleman-street. On 14th April I was spoken to by Greenwood, opposite the Old Bell, in Holborn, and missed my handkerchief—I went in search of the persons who were supposed to have taken it, and saw the policeman with the prisoners—on the way to the station I thought I saw King attempt to pass something—I did not see what it was—there were two or three ran beside, and I cautioned them to keep off—shortly afterwards I heard Greenwood say, "Here is the handkerchief"—this is it (produced), and the one I missed.
Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. Where did Greenwood say, "Here is the handkerchief?" A. In going to Smithfield—he had it in his hand—I saw him stoop—I did not see him pick it up—I was behind King in the road—there was a policeman behind the prisoners, and one beside them, who had hold of their collars—a boy that was running beside them kept running up against them, and that excited my attention.
ROBERT TILLCOCK (City policeman, 237.) I was on duty on Holborn-hill—Mr. Wilcox told me something—I saw Greenwood at the same time—he said, "They are them"—I accompanied him, and took the prisoners—I walked on with them towards the station—I saw Williams take something from his side-pocket, having the appearance of a handkerchief, and he dropped it—I did not see Greenwood pick it up, but I saw it directly after it was in his hand, and then saw it was this handkerchief—he picked it up in King-street, Snow-hill, near where the prisoners were—I had previously seen Williams make several attempts to give it to another person.
Cross-examined. Q. Another officer was behind? A. Yes—I had both the prisoners by the collar—the prosecutor walked behind—the moment it was in Greenwood's hand I saw it was a handkerchief—I canoot say whether it was a handkerchief the prisoners dropped—when Greenwood called out, "Here is the handkerchief, "I stopped—I did not see Greenwood pick it up—the other officer is not here—I did not know he was behind me—he told me so next morning.
JOHN GREENWOOD. I am a paper-hanger, in Hatton-garden. On the evening of 14th April I was in Holborn—I saw the prosecutor and a lady walking before me—the prosecutor was using a silk handkerchief—he returned it to his pocket—the prisoners were standing in a doorway at the corner of Ely-place—I saw King made an attempt at the prosecutor's pocket as he passed, and Williams was standing close beside him—King did not succeed, and both the prisoners followed the prosecutor—I saw king lift his coat with his right hand, take his handkerchief with his left hand, pass it to Williams, who put it into his pocket, and they went down Holborn—I went to the prosecutor, and said, "Sir, you have lost your pocket-handkerchief; give me your address"—he said, "Where are the parties?"—I told him to follow me and I would tell him—I saw the officer, and he took the prisoners—in conveying them to the station I saw Williams take the handkerchief out of his pocket and try to pass it to two of his companions, not to King—when we got to the top of Snow-hill, Williams threw the handkerchief on the ground—I took it up, and said, "This is the handkerchief"—I took it to the station, and gave it up.
Cross-examined. Q. Was there not an officer behind them? A. There were two officers—one had the prisoners in custody, and another was by my side—I was behind the prisoners—when I said, "Here is the handkerchief," the officer who had the prisoners said, "It is all righy"—the other officer did not speak—I was once in trouble—Michael Haydon, the police-constable, gave me seven days, for an attempt to pick pockets—that is four years ago last Christmas—the charge was false—I do not know what Magistrate I was before—it was at Guildhall—I never was in any other difficulty—my brother had three months, for uttering counterfeit coin—I do not think that charge was false—my brother is ninteen years old—he and I are twins—it was between nine and ten o'clock at night when I saw the prisoners take this handkerchief—I had not been at work that day—I have been out of employ—I was in the employ of Cooper and Boyd eighteen months ago—I have not been employed in my own business since—I have been labouring at Fresh-wharf, London-bridge—I was not close to Mr. Wilcox when he used his pocket-handkerchief—I was some distance behind him—he put it into his right-hand pocket—he had not got half-a-dozen yards further before King made the first attempt to get it, and when he got about thirty yards King succeeded in getting it—they had just turned away from him when I stopped
him and wanted his address—I was close behind the prisoners, watching them, when the pocket was picked.
King's Defence. I know Greenwood; he met us and asked if we were going to stand anything; we told him no; I do not think he lives in Hattongarden; my mother inquired, and he lives in Field-lane; I never was near the gentleman.
WILLIAMS— GUILTY.** Aged 19.
KING— GUILTY.** Aged 20.
Transported for Seven Years.
BRNJAMIN GREEN. I am foreman to Mr. William Hoof, of Wood-lane, Hammersmith. On the 15th February I was in the brick field, I saw two geese and a gander of his, safe between twelve and one o'clock, when the rest of the men were gone to dinner—the prisoner, whom I had seen several times before, came on the premises and went towards the geese and the gander—he took the gander and ran between two clamps of bricks—I went the other way and asked him what he had done with the gander, he made no answer but, jumped over the fence and ran away—I went after him, but did not take him, when I came back I found the gander in the stoke hole covered with bricks—it was just dying—it was alive when he took it.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Was the gander annoying him at all? A. No, not that I know of—Mr. Hoof had had it these two years.
ALFRKD BLUNDELL (police-sergeant, T 9.) I met the prisoner at the corner of Bell-street—I said, "I have been looking for you, I must take you to Hammersmith; I suppose you know what it is for?"he said, "About the goose."
GUILTY. aged 20.— Confined twelve Months.
1348. EDWARD ROURKE, THOMAS COSGROVE TIMOTHY SULLIVAN and WILLIAM PRENDERVILLE , stealing 2lbs. weight of lamb, value 1s. 7d., and 1 groat the property of George Schmae, from his person; Cosgrove, Sullivan and Prenderville having been before convicted; to which ROURKE pleaded GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Six Months.
GEORGE SCHMAK. I am a pastry-cook and confectioner, in Warwick-row, Kensington—on 29th April, at a quarter before eleven o'clock at night, I was passing along Kensington with a basket on my arm, and a piece of lamb in it, and a four-penny piece in my hand—I was stopped by Rourke, Sullivan, and two other boys—they all four came round me, and one of them took the four, penny piece out of my hand, another took the lamb and they all ran away—I could not do anything, as they all came upon me so quickly—I had seen Rourke and Sullivan before, I knew them by sight—I gave information to the police.
THOMAS ROBERTS (policeman, T131.) On 29th April at twenty-five minutes before eleven o'clock at night, I saw the four prisoners together at the corner of Scarson's-terrace, Kensington—I knew them before—as soon as they saw me, they made some remark and went to the end of the terrace—about eleven I received information and went after the prisoners—I met them all four in Church-street—I took Rourke, the other three made off—I am quite sure it was the other three—I knew them all well.
GEORGE HAVILL (police-inspector.) I apprehended Prenderville on 9th May—I told him I took him for robbing Schmae—he said it was not him, in was Rourke took the lamb from the basket, and young Cosgrove took the money—he said the lamb was sold for 6d., and he had a penny for his sh✗ with which he was not satisfied.
Sullivan's Defence. I met Prenderville; he asked if I would buy some meat; I said I had no money; they went to have some beer; I met them again, and we were coming down the street and the officer caught Rourke.
Cosgrove's Defence. I know nothing about it.
Prenderville's Defence. I said it was Cosgrove took it, and then he said it was me.
THOMAS EASTLING re-examined. I produce a certificate of Prenderville's former conviction at this Court—(read—Convicted 20th Sept., 1847and confined six months and whipped)—I was present at the trial—he is the person.
JOHN ALLEN (policeman, T57.) I produce a certificate of the conviction of Sullivan and Cosgrove—(read—Convicted 16th Aug., 1847; Cosgrose having been before convicted; Cosgrove confined four months, Sullivan two months)—the prisoners are the persons.
COSGROVE— GUILTY. Aged 17; SULLIVAN— GUILTY. Aged 14
PRENDERVILLE— GUILTY. Aged 16; Transported for Seven Years.
ELIZABETH CRICHTON. I am the wife of David Crichton. The prisoner was in our service five weeks—on 2nd May 1 missed a lace veil from a hatbox, in the closet by the side of my bed—in consequence of seeing some flowers in the prisoner's bonnet I suspected her, and on 4th May went with my husband into her bed-room, and found in a hat-box the net handkerchief to which the had been attached—I found the veil between the bed and mattress—I also found in her box some lace cuffs, candles, and tea—she was not present—these are the things (produced)—they are mine—my father called the prisoner up stairs, and she said in my presence she had found the lace cuffs under her bed, and did not know anything about the veil—I also found some combs which I had seen a week before—I had not seen the veil for three weeks.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Was your husband present when you found it? A. Yes—he is not here—my father lives in the house, and there are lodgers; the prisoner only had to eat on one of them—these is no other servant—I am not in the habit of wearing these combs—I dare say she knew that—the cuffs are of very little value—she admitted taking all the things except the veil, and she said she had bought the combs—I know the combs by one of them being broken.
HENRY CHAMPION (policeman, F107.) I took the prisoner into custody—she said she found the lace on the stairs, one of the cuffs, in her room, and the other on the bed—I have no recollection of her saying anything about the veil.
Cross-examined. Q. Did not you tell the Magistrate she said she knew nothing about the veil? A. No—I swear that. (The witness's deposition being read, stated that she said she knew nothing about the veil.)
GEORGE WILSON. I am a constable of the East and West India Docks I was on duty on 14th April, about one o'clock, at the East India Dock basin—I saw prisoners and two other men come out of the import dock, and go out of the gate leading on to the Brunswick Wharf—I saw Bryan and one of the others run out of the gate—I informed some other officers—we all went out into the road, and saw the two prisoners and the other two menbryan looked bulky—I went up to him and said. "Bryan, you have got something about you; you must come inside"—I took him in, and found on him these four parcels of copper, two inside his waistcoat and two inside his trowsers—he said he had found it in the dust-bin—I had seen the prisoners leave the dock in the same directions, with the same two men, once previous to that.
JOHN WHITE. I am a constable of the dock. I was at the export dock gate when Willson stopped Bryan—I stopped Kerr—he said, "You won't want me; you want the other men that have run away"—I said, "I have got you and I shall keep you"—I searched him, and found 4lbs, of copper in the waistband of his trowsers—he said it was given him by a man in a public-house—Bryan said, "It is no use telling a lie about it; we may as well tell the truth."
EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOOD. I am in the employ of a shipwright I was employed in taking some copper off the ship Earl Grey, belonging to Mr. Duncan Dunbar—I threw the copper on the punt—I can swear to all this copper, except two pieces—it came off that ship—two of these pieces in particular I can swear to, and the other I have no doubt of—they were all in the punt, which was under the ship's acting as a stage for me to work at the vessel—I know this piece by my own marking on it, and this one by its acting as a brace under the pump case.
JAMES GATLOR. I am ship-keeper of the Earl Grey, and live on board I took the copper from the punt into the store, where it was kept—it belonged to Duncan Dunbar—I went to the store on the day after this copper was found, and it was all gone.
Kerr. Q. How long was the copper in the store before you missed it? A. About nine or ten days.
SAMUKL GLADSTONE. I am superintendent to Mr. Duncan Dunbar. I know this copper—this is a piece we took off the cook's house—I sent this to the store-shed—this other came from the ship Westmeath, and was in the same shed—I saw the shed the day previous, and the lock was quite safe—both the ships belong to Mr. Duncan Dunbar.
Bryan's Defence. I passed by the dock officer; he saw no copper with me.
BRYAN— GUILTY. Aged 28.
KERR— GUILTY. Aged 32.
Transported for Ten Years.
ALFRED BRADFORD. I keep the White Horse, in Assembly-row, Miles End. The prisoner was my bar-man for seven days—three days before gave him into custody I missed some money from my till—I marked some money, and gave it to Barnes, the policeman—on 4th May I cleared my till of all the silver, and only left some halfpence in it—I went to it about twenty minutes afterwards, and found two sixpences, a marked 4d. piece, and some silver that was not marked—I cleared the till at five o'clock, I went to it afterwards, and found two marked sixpences and some silver not marked—I then gave the prisoner in charge—I saw him searched—three sixpences were found on him—two of them I had marked myself, and given to Barnes—I told him I suspected he had been robbing me, I should give him in charge—he said he had three sixpences in his pocket—he did not say anything about them in my presence.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. What time was it you marked the first? A. I marked some shillings on the Tuesday—I do not think I marked any sixpences—I swear I did not—I belive I did not give the policeman any sixpence on Tuesday—to the best of my belief I did not—I should not like to go too far—I marked money once before, that is two years ago—that was the last time I marked money—I have only charged one of my barman with stealing money—I have not sent them away for that reason—they have not left me because I expressed my suspicion—I have had three barmen within the last twelve months—they never complained of my suspicions—I looked into the till about twenty minutes after three—(the policeman had sent soon after three)—I found two marked sixpences in it then—the policeman came again at seven—I looked again soon afterwards—there were still two marked sixpences in it—they were all marked alike.
COURT. Q. How many sixpences did you give the policemen? A. Five or six, I will not be sure exactly bow many, and two or three fourpenny pieces, beside some marked shillings—I found four sixpences—I gave the officer four, in the first instance, then he had the two back again that I found in the till—I found two more sixpences in the till at seven o'clock—I found four in the till in all.
ANN MANEY. I am sister to mr. barnes, the policeman. On the afternoon of 4th May, I went to the White Horse—I purchased some gin and beer—it came to 10d.—I paid the prisoner with two sixpences, which I had from mr. Barnes—they were marked—these are them—the prisoner put them into the till.
CAROLINE BARNES. I am the wife of Henry Barnes. On 4th may, about five o'clock, I went to the White Horse—I purchased a quartern of brandy—I paid the prisoner with two marked sixpences—this is one of them, he put it out of his hand.
Cross-examined. Q. Then it is only one that you speak to? A. Only one—he put it out of his hand—I do not know whether he put it into his pocket—I saw him lay the sixpences out of his hand—he gave me twopence out of it—he must have taken the twopence from the till—he did not take it out of his pocket—Maney is my sister—I have not been talking this matter over—I was told to purchase the brandy—I knew I went there to lay a trap—I was not told to watch what the prisoner did with the money—I am certain he did not say that he took the halfpence from his pocket—he did say he took the change out of his pocket—I gave him two sixpences—there is only one that I can recognise—this is it.
HENRY BARNES (policeman, K 256.) I had some marked sixpences from the prosecutor—I think it was on 3rd may, the day previous to this occurrence—they were marked when he gave them to me, I marked them besides—I gave one to my sister about three o'clock, and one to my wife a few minutes before five, to go to the prosecutor's and purchase some liquor—I afterwards went there—the prisoner was called, and the prosecutor said be had been robbing him—he said he had not—he said he had 1s. 6d., and I found 1s. 6d. in his right-hand pocket, and amongest it were the two marked sixpences, which I had given my wife and sister—I asked the prosecutor if he knew them—he said, yes he did—I told the prisoner they were marked, and asked how long he had that money—he said, "I do not know, but some time"—on the way to the station he said, "I remember, it was all through the copper; when Mr. Bradford went to tes he left no coppers in the till, and I gave change, but I afterwards found a five-shilling paper of halfpences."
Cross-examined. Q. When did you receive these sixpences from the prosecutor? A. I think it was the day previous—I first began to receive marked money from the prosecutor on the Tuesday—I received seven shillings from him on Tuesday, 2nd may—I could not be positive whether I received any sixpences—no, I received no sixpences when I received the seven shillings—on Wednesday, 3rd may, I received three sixpences and three fourpenny pieces, and on Thursday I received two sixpences—immediately the marked money was paid in, Mr. bradford brought it me back—he brought it me back on Tuesday, on Wednesday, and on Thursday; it was two sixpences he brought—I am not a friend of the prosecutor—I have known him from his keeping that house a number of years—I was not drinking with him on the Tuesday, or the Wednesday—on the Thursday, when I apprehended the prisoner, I had a glass of ale—I was there the night before to purchase some wine and rum with marked money.
GUILTY .Aged 19.—Recommended to mercy, and his father engaged to take care of him.— Confined Eight Days.
MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.
JOSEPH JORDAN. I am a carman, and live at 5, Helmet-court, Upper Thames-street. On 20th April, about ten minutes before three o'clock, I was at the london Dock, with a wagon, loading with ginger, at No. 40, loop-hole—I have known the prisoner for nine years—he was for a short time in the same employ that I have been for twelve years—I was in the wagou, and I saw the prisoner chuck a bag out the loop-hole, No. 51—it fell on the ground in the kennel, about five yards from my horse's head—after he had thrown it out, he came down under the archway to the closet—he returned again from the stores of the south quay—I saw him pass ten or twelve yards from the bag—he remained in the water-closet a minute or so—he then turned and looked at the bag, and walked away—there were two or three of the Company's men there at the time—I saw the bag fall—it
made a noise when it fell—the bag was there at the time prisoner looked at it.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. This was on a Thursday? A. Yes—I went to the prisoner on the Thursday Following, with an officer—I did not go up to the prisoner myself—I never had nay quarrel of fight with him nor an angry word—it is about nine years since I was in the same service with him—I have not drank with him since—I have not seen him for a long while—I have been in the hospital with a broken thigh—I did not tell the officer at the time that I saw him throw the bag out, not knowing at the time but he was employed by the Dock Company.
JOHN CUDDIFORD. I am labourer in the London Docks. I was in the warehouse on 20th April, I heard some one come down from No. 51 floor very quickly—I followed him down—when we got under the arch I followed him very closely—he saw me and he was confused—he made a stand all at once—I have no doubt it was the prisoner—he stood still, and then walked by me and went into the water-closet—I then saw the bag of coffee lying in the kennel—Jordan and his horse were there—I pitched the bag up against the wall—I then called up to the other workmen to know how it came there.
Cross-examined. Q. There were other people up in No. 51? A. No; no one had any right in 51—they were doing no business there—I believe the prisoner to be the man—I did not know him before—I see a great many people.
GEORGE DIX. I am a constable of the London Docks. I took the prisoner in custody on 27th April—I told him I charged him with stealing a bag of coffee in the London Docks on 20th April—he said he was not in the London Docks that day, he was in Katharine docks—I said, "I dare say you were in St. Katharine Docks and the London docks several times that day, but we are not going to dispute that here"—he did not belong to the London Docks.
Cross-examined. Q. Where did you take him? A. On Tower-hill—the gate-keeper was with me—Jordan pointed him out to me—he did not go and speak to the prisoner, he stood at a distance.
Witness for the Defence.
GEORGE REEVES. I ama carman. The prisoner is a carman—On 20th April I was in Company with hia at the Brown Bear public-house, East Smithfield—it was the Thursday before he was taken—I saw him again about five minutes before there o'clock in St. Katharine Dock, when I went there to load of wine—I was there till a quarter-past four—I was up at the Custom-house, getting the order for the wine, and the prisoner came out of the Custom-house with a permit for a hogshead of tobacco—I cleared my wines, and I saw the hogshead of tobacco come out of the loop-hole—the prisoner got on the top of the van to cover the hogshead and he slipped and hurt himself—Anderson was person at the time, and I helped the prisoner out of the gate—I saw him the next day at home in his own house he said he was hurt in his hip—I saw him that day in the docks.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Did you leave the prisoner a the Brown Bear? A. Yes; at half-past one o'clock, he was having his dinner—I did not expect to see him again at St. Katharine Docks—I did no tell him I was going there—I had my job to do when I saw him at the Brown Bear—that is about 200 yards from the London Dcoks—I have has permits to take things out of the docks—they always bear the date—the prisoner was in Mr. Plush's van—Mr. Duncan told me so—I saw him come
out of the Custom-house, which is about two minutes' run from the London Docks—I had not a watch—there is a clock at St. Katharine Docks—I looked at it when I went for my order to the Custom-house, and when I came out of the Custom-house with the prisoner, it was five minutes to three.
MR. PAYNE. Q. Who is Mr. Duncan? A. Foreman to North and Light—he was up here last Thursday, and Mr. Plush was here on Saturday, all day.
RICHARD ANDERSON. I know the prisoner—I saw him on Thursday morning, 20th April, about half-past nine o'clock, at the London Docks, and about half-past three in the afternoon at St. Katharine Docks—I had been drinking all the time with him in the Brown Bear, from half-past six, and we left together about ten minutes after three—there is a clock there—I saw Mr. Duncan, who is foreman to North and Light, come and hire the prisoner—he told him to go and get the permit to get a hogahead of tobacco—he went and got it—I then helped him load it, and he fell off the van about a quarter after four—he was not in the London Docks at all from the time I was drinking with him in the Brown Bear till he came out of the docks after he had the accident—he was not in the London Docks at all—I was with him till ten minutes past three, when he went into St. Katharine Docks.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. How long were you with him at the Brown Bear? A. All the morning—we went in there to drink about half-past nine, and continued till about ten minutes after three, drinking all the time—we drank a good deal—we run through a great deal some times—I am a coal whipper—I have been in trouble in a job of Mr. Bryan's, about some hemp, but the gentleman had his hemp back again—I was tried but was acquitted—that is nearly three years ago—I have also been charged with putting some rope in a man's cart—I was turned up, they could not do anything with me—that is six years ago—I was also tried about a piece of rape, and had six months.
JOHN PLUMLEY. I know the prisoner—I was with him in the Brown Bose on 20th April, about twelve o'clock, having dinner—I left him there, and saw him again about twenty minutes before three, when Mr. Duncan, one of North and Light's clerks, came to employ him—North and Light are towncarmen—I did not see him again till twenty minutes to four, when I heard that he had fallen off the van—I helped to carry him home.
DANIEL RUDKINS. I am an officer of the London Docks. I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction at this Court—(read—Convicted January, 1841, and transported for seven years)—the prisoner in the man.
GUILTY. Aged 30.— Transported for Fourteen Years.
ROGERS pleaded GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined One Month.
MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN LODDY (policeman, T 219.) Rogers is my wife's nephew—he and Dyer came to my house on a Friday morning—they stopped there all day and all night—after they were gone next day, I missed two coats and a scarf—these are them—the coats are in tolerable good order, nearly new—they were in my box, in a room upstairs in which Rogers and Dyer slept.
WILLIAM DYER. I am a friend of Roger's—I work at Mr. Collard's, is the Oval-road—I went with Rogers to Loddy's house, at Turnham-grees—Mrs. Loddy entertained us both—I had left my work because my master blowed me up—Rogers stole two coats and a scarf at Loddy's and I helped him to carry them—we took to Shibley, in York-street, Camden-town—I had not had any dealings with Shibley before, but I had at his shop before he had it—I gave a note to Shibley—I had written it—I put the name of Abraham Jones to it—Shibley gave us 17s. for the things—he asked us our names, and where we came from—we told him our names were Jones—he gave us 10s. first, and then I called again and got the rest.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Your father afterwards went to Shibley, and he produced the coats to him? A. Yes—my father told him they were his, and asked him to keep them till Wednesday—the note was to the effect that my father was obliged to send the coats for sale, and representing that we were his sons—this scarf was in the pocket of one of the coats when we sold them.
JAMES MASON (policeman, S 168.) On Tuesday, 18th April, I took Rogers and Dyer—Hilsden was with me—we went to Shibley's shop, in company with Dyer's father—Hilsden asked Shibley if he had had any dealing with the two boys—he said he had bought two coats of them—he was asked to produce them, and he did—he was asked if he kept a book, and if the coats were entered—he produced the book, and the coats were entered, but the scarf was not—it was in the pocket of one of the coats.
Cross-examined. Q. He made no concealment at all about it? A. No—I believe he had not been long there.
JAMES DYER. I live Grove-street, Camaden-town. I found Rogers and Dyer at Rickmansworth, and brought them to town—I took them to Shibley, and told him he had bought two coats of these boys—he said he had, and had given 17s. for them—I told him to keep them till the Wednesday.
Cross-examined. Q. You told him they were yours, and a great deal more property had been lost? A. Yes.
SHIBLEY— NOT GUILTY.
THIRD COURT.—Monday, May 22nd, 1848.
PRESENT—MR. Ald. LAWRENCE and Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.
Before Mr. Common serjeant and the First Jury.
THOMAS LYNES (policeman.) At twenty minutes to five o'clock, on 15th May, I was going out to some premises on Cooke's-grounds—on opening the door, the prisoner ran past—I suspected something, and watched him—he went to the corner of the yard where Collins works, looked about some time, put his hand between the railings, took a shovel from inside, and went along China-row with it—I pursued him—I lost sight of him about a minute where a wall projects—I came up to him—he had nothing in his hand—I asked what he was at—he said he had no work, but was going to remove some sand
in the river, if he could get a shovel—I afterwards found this shovel (produced) under a fence, where I lost sight of him.
Prisoner's Defence. I was going to work; I never saw the shovel.
JAMES WATSON. I am a solicitor. On 9th May, about nine o'clock is the evening, I was in Tottenham-court-road—the prisoner jostled me and took my watch from my waistcoat-pocket—it had no guard, only this short chain—he ran away—I pursued, calling, "Stop thief!"—he darted under a horse's head on a coach-stand—I followed—he ran a little distance, went under another horse's head, came on to the side he started from, ran into a crowd, and was seized—this is my watch (produced.)
Cross-examined by MR. MELLER. Q. What time elapsed between taking the watch and the prisoner's apprehension? A. Not more than two or three minutes—there were several people about—I did not see him previous in his snatching the watch—I think he was by my side—I saw his face—there were no other persons running—I lost sight of him for an instant, whom under the horse's head—he wore a dark dress—when he was taken, he said, "You have got the wrong man"—he shook in every limb—I spoke to Shipecott, pointed to the prisoner, and said, "You are the man," or "That is the man;" it might be, "Is this the man|"—the prisoner was taken into a pawnbroker's shop, and the watch was found in that area—a crowd was sound the shop—I have no doubt he is the man—there was gas in all the shops.
MARY ANN CHALKER. I was in Tottenham-court-road about nine o'clock, saw the prisoner push against Mr. Watson, put his hand to his coat, and take something from his pocket—Mr. Watson said, "Stop thief; he has not my watch!"
Cross-examined. Q. Which way were you going? A. I was meeting Mr. Watson, and the prisoner, who was by his side—he was rather behind him—it was a momentary act—there were more than six persons there—I followed him with my eye till he was taken—there was no crowd.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you lose sight of him? A. Just as he was passing behind the cabs—I saw him running after that—there were two or three dozen people on the pavement—he ran into the crowd—he was taken not half a minute after that—the watch was found five or six yards from there, just where he was taken—I did not lose sight of him in the crowd.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you see a crowd? A. Yes, I saw him come from the cabs and walk through it as fast as he could.
GUILTY.*† Aged 27.— Transported for Ten Years.
were safe in my warehouse about nine o'clock on the Saturday before—these (produced) are mine.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. You are not sure of her? A. No, I have the corresponding duplicate.
Cross-examined. Q. Do you know who she lived with there? A. With a man who was convicted this session and sentenced to twelve months.
GUILTY.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined One Month.
SMITH pleaded GUILTY .— Confined Three Months.
FRANCIS FRANKLIN. I am shopman to John Shiel Thompson, a draper. Last Wednesday, about half-past eight o'clock, the prisoners came, and I missed a piece of cloth which was safe at half-past seven, inside the door—it was my master's.
JOSEPH DALTON (City-policeman, 366.) I saw the prisoners and another walking by the shop—Smith took the cloth, Harris walked down Holborn, into Ely-place, opened this bag (produced), and Smith put the cloth into it, they were walking away—I took Harris, Smith got away, leaving his hat in my possession—the porter brought him back without a hat.
Harris. I was not near the shop, and never had the bag. Witness. I watched you about half an hour—I believe Smith took the bag form his hat.
HARRIS— GUILTY.*— Confined One Year.
MESSRS. RYLAND and LAURIE conducted the Prosecution.
EDWARD WILLIAM DAVIS. I am one of the firm of Nicholson and Davis. upholsterers, No. 318, High Holborn. In Nov. last, John Piper came to the shop and paid for goods amounting to 1l., 1s. 8d., in the name of Pemberton—he selected other goods amounting to 37l. 5s. 3d.—he did not pay for them; he said we should not be particular, to a few days—they were to be sent to 16, Wilmington—square—a part were sent on 2nd Nov., part on 18th,
and the rest on 25th, some by the porter, and some by another persons—we were never paid for them.
RICHARD HART. I am porter to Nicholson and Davis. I took goods to No. 16, Wilmington-square twice—I went first on 20th Nov., and saw the two female prisoners—they took them in—I said where they came from—the second time I delivered them to John Piper—that was about a week afterwards.
WILLIAM HALE. I am a working upholsterer. By direction of Nicholson and Davis, I went to 16, Wilmington-square, in Oct., to measure for some blinds—I saw John Piper—he went by the name of Pemberton—he said he wanted me to measure for three, and I should have the others when he got them from his old house in St. John's Wood—I went a second time about 16th or 17th Nov. to measure for a carpet which I afterwards laid down—I saw Mary Ann Piper—she said her mistress was an invalid living at St. John's Wood, and was not able to come, but was coming as soon as she got better—I saw Webb there as housekeeper.
GEORGE HILL. I am a coal merchant. I received a letter in the name of Pemberton, in consequence of which I twice sent three tons of coals to 16, Wilmington-square—I went for the account, and I saw John Piper—he told me to call again in a week, as he was in the receipt of his money quarterly, and the quarter was not yet due—it was a few days before christmas-day—I called again in about a week, the house was closed, and a padlock on the door—I think Mary Ann Piper opened the door to me once.
JAMES DELAMARE. I am a silk-manufacturer, in High-street, Homerton, and am leaseholder of the house 14, Duke-street, Old Artillery-ground, which I let to John Piper on 22nd Feb. The tenancy was to commence as Lady-day—he described himself as a surveyor from Hampshire, living them at 3, Haverford-terrace, Caledonian-road, Islington, and said that a small portion of his furniture was at a friend's there—I asked for a reference—he referred me to Mr. Bithery, at Camberwell New-road—I went there—Mr. Bithery was out—I saw a woman who I think was Mary Ann Piper; I cannot say positively—in consequence of what she said I let the house—on 29th March a policeman told me something, and I found the house shut up—I could not get in—I went to Mr. Bithery's, and found he had removed—I have had no rent; it is not due—I got the key from the policeman.
EDWARD JABEZ RAMWELL. I am clerk to Mr. Ramwell, a linen draper, of Norton Falgate. About 23rd March, Webb came there, and said her name was Welch, and she was servant to Mr. Piper, of 14, Duke-street, and wanted some mourning, in consequence of the death of her mother, and she would pay by weekly installments; that her master was an architect and surveyor, and would be security for her—I went back with her to Duke-street—Mary Ann Piper opened the door—I asked for Mr. Piper—she said he was within, and showed me into the office—I there found John Piper—I said I had come respecting some goods Mary Welch wanted—he called her up, and asked what she wanted—she said a little mourning, in consequence of the death of her mother—he said, "To what amount?"—she said about 30s.—he said he would be security for her to the amount of 2l.—he wrote me this paper—(read—9, Narton Falgate. To Mr. Edward Ramwell. In consideration of your supplying goods to Mary Welch, I guarantee to you due payment of the same, in all her transactions with you, to the amount of 2l., for any deficiency that may arise from any cause whatever. 23rd March, 1848. Signed, E.I. Piper)—that satisfied me, and on a corner of that paper is the order for the goods—I supplied goods amounting to 2l. 1s. 9d.—she paid me 2s. 6d. in
advance, about an hour and a half afterwards, when she came for the goods—the woman who opened the door was with her, and assisted her in looking them out—she said it was a friend came with her, as she was not experienced enough to choose for herself—on the Friday week following I went for the money, and found the house shut up, and heard that the prisoners had absconded in debt to a great many people.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Did you serve the goods A. No, but I was present, and saw Webb take them away—we take money by installments—we are a long time before we are paid; we always get as much a week—there was only one payment due when she was taken.
ROWLAND PRICE. I am a stay-maker, at Crown-street, Finsbury. On 18th March Webb came in the name of Jones for a pair of stays, which were to be sent to 14, Duke-street, a corner house—she said she was housemaid to Mr. Piper, and If I took them home on Saturday I should have the money on Monday—she ordered them of my wife; but I was in the parlour at the back of the shop, and heard her—she said very likely the housekeeper would give an order if she liked the stays, and she would recommend her mistress to have a pair—the stays were sent—I have not been paid for them—I did not apply or go to the house.
Cross-examined. Q. Were the prisoners not taken up the next day? A. No, on the Saturday—she did not speak loud—the door was open.
THOMAS MORRIS. I am servant to Mr. Willard, a pork-butcher, of Union-street, Bishopsgate-street. On 21st March Webb Came to the shop, brought a note, and asked if we gave credit for a week, as her master, Mr. Piper, had taken Mr. Delamare's house, and always paid on a Monday—I said we did not give credit, but we did not mind, thinking they were respectable, as it was Mr. Delamare's house—she ordered some things—she came a day or two afterwards, and ordered some pork and bacon—I took them home—she opened the door, and took them out of my basket—she came again on Saturday, and ordered things which came to 11s.—I took them, and saw her—as I was leaving she said, "The housekeeper told me to ask you if you would have a drop of beer"—I had some—I told my master when I went home, and received information, in consequence of which he told me to fetch back the things or the money—I went back, and saw Webb and the housekeeper, Mary Ann Piper—I told them what I had come for—the housekeeper said it was a very strange thing for a tradesman to send for things back after delivering them—I said it was, but I was ordered not to go without the money or goods—they gave them me—on the Monday I took the bill; it was 11s. 3d.—they told me to call next morning, as their master was at Brighton, and had a good many buildings going on there—I received fresh information, and went again next morning—Webb said, "Leave it till next morning"—I said I had orders not to come away—I went in—she said, "Our clerk will be here presently, and he will soon put you out"—a man came, and asked what I wanted—I told him—he said "You can't stop here," and said to Webb, "Open the door," and then said to me, "Out you go"—I did not go—he said he would fetch a policeman; but instead of that he went to one of his pals, who came with some still-irons in his hands—I went away—I went again in the evening with my mistress; I was behind her—Webb came to the window—my mistress said she wanted to speak to Mr. Piper—Webb said, "He is not in now; you can't see him till to-morrow morning"—she said, "I will speak to you"—Webb came down; the door was opened—my mistress said she came for the bill—Webb said, "You can have it in the morning"—I said, "I want to know whether you mean to pay it?"—a young
man came and said, "You can't stop here; out you go;" and struck my mistress in the side—eight men came out of the kitchen, and said they would murder me if I did not go out—they pulled their coats off, and their sleeves up, and went at it—three policemen came—I gave one man in charge, but the case was dismissed.
Cross-examined. Q. You were not afraid of eight? A. No, nor twenty—they only tore my clothes—I got some blows in my ribs.
THOMAS BARNES. I live with my father, a hatter, at 20, Norton Falgate. On 23rd March, Webb came and ordered some caps to be sent to 14, Duke-street—I took them next morning, and saw John and Mary Ann Piper—they said they would keep one cap to show Mrs. Piper, who was at Gravesend—the housekeeper brought a measure for a hat for each of the boys, and said her mistress wanted a silk umbrella, and Mr. Piper wanted a has himself—my father went afterwards.
JOSEPH BARNES. I am brother of the last witness. On 24th March I went to 14, Dake-street, with two children's hats and a cap—I saw John and Mary Ann Piper—John Piper took them from me, with the bill, and said they would be sent to Gravesend, for Mrs. Piper to see, and they could not be paid for till she had seen them—some men's hats were ordered—I afterwards went with three, and John Piper chose one, which was to be altered, and the two were then to be sent back—I called again, not with the hat, but to inquire about the hats and caps—I saw Webb—I received a cap I had left there the day before—I asked for the money, and was told the hats were at Gravesend, and I Could not have it till the following day—I went again next day, and saw John Piper, who said the caps had not been sent, Mrs. Piper not having decided on keeping them—I asked for the money—he said they could not be paid for till Mrs. Piper had decided on keeping them, and told me to call again—I called again on Saturday, and saw Mary Ann Piper—I asked to one see Mr. Piper—she said he was engaged in paying his men their wages, and asked if I was afraid of the money, as I called so many times—I said, "Yes"—she said she had lived with Mrs. Piper fourteen years, and that she was a highly respectable woman of property, and I need be under no fear, for I should have the money sent round by the servant either then or on Monday—I never got goods or money—I have only got one cap back.
JOHN POTTS. I am a basket-maker, in Crispin-street, Spitalfields. I received directions, and on 24th March called at 14, Duke-street, and saw the two female prisoners—they ordered a hamper to pack some goods in, to send to Mrs. Piper, at Greenwich—I afterwards took it, and delivered it to the two female prisoners—they said they should be likely to want another, they did not know whether one would be sufficient—Webb came afterwards, and ordered another, and a clothes and market basket, and asked for the bill—she said Mr. Piper was gone to Brighton, but would be home next day, and most likely she or Mr. Piper would called on me—I have never been paid.
Cross-examined. Q. You never asked for the money? A. No; they were taken up shortly afterwards.
FREDERICK DISENY. I am porter to Mr. Lewis, an ironmonger, of Bishopsgate-street. I was sent with goods one Saturday to 14, Duke-street, and saw the two female prisoners—they took them of me—I went next afternoon with two beer-taps—they took them in—I went again on Monday, and took two lamps, and other goods—they received them—I left the bill—they said their mistress would be in town on Wednesday, and she would call—they ordered a bottle-jack—the mistress never called—we have never been paid.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you ask for the money? A. I asked if they would settle.
EDWARD JOHN POWELL. I am assistant to Mr. Levy, an ironmonger, of 56, Bishopsgate-street. On 25th March Mary Ann Piper came for some goods—she said she was housekeeper to Mr. Piper, an architect, of Greenwich, who had taken the house, 14, Duke-street, as an office, and was going to furnish the house, as Mrs. Piper would come there occasionally to take be meals—she looked out some goods, amounting to 14l.—I went with the porter to 14, Duke-street, and saw the female prisoners—(Mary Ann had said she did not know whether Mr. Piper was in the house, and asked me to send as invoice)—she said he was not at home, he was very busy, and asked me to leave the things—she ordered two brass taps, which I sent afterwards—Webb came to the shop with three lamps, to have them altered, and to change some flat-irons, which were not heavy enough—I sent some other irons, and they kept them all—the others were not returned—an order was brought back for a bottle-jack, which we could not send directly—when we sent it the house was shut up.
GEORGE BISHOP. I live at Thanet-street, Burton-crescent, and am landlord of No. 18, Argyle-street, King's-cross. On 10th Jan. I let that house to John Piper, for 44l. a year, for three years certain—he gave the name of Everett—I called on him there three or four days after, saw Webb, and asked for Mr. Everett—she said he was not at home, but her mistress was—her mistress came out of the back parlour—it was Mary Ann Piper—I said I had found out what customers I had got; that I did not approve of them, and hoped they would be kind enough to leave my house; that I was fully acquainted with who they were; there was no great harm done, and asked them to leave as soon as they could—she said that I had been to the reference, and d—d and blackguarded them—that was false—I then left—the key was sent home on 1st or 2nd March.
Cross-examined. Q. You lost one quarter's rent? A. Yes, but they did not stop the quarter—the house was very much ill-used.
ALEXANDER TOLLETH. I am a boot and shoe-maker, at Great Russell-street, Bloomsbury. I was sent for to 8, Argyle-street—Webb let me in—I asked for Mr. Everett—she said he was up stairs, and called him down—John Piper came, and I measured him for some boots—they were to be paid for next day—I went next day, and saw the female prisoners—they said Mr. Everett was out of town, but would be at home in the evening—I called in the evening—they said they had gone to Southampton to spend the day, and if I would call next day I should be paid—I said it was a black-looking job, and I was afraid I should lose my money—I lost two pairs of boots.
HENRY QUELCH. I am a printer, at 40, Charlotte-street, Blackfriars-road, and am landlord of 14, River-street, Battle-bridge. On 19th March, I let that house to John Piper, in the name of John Tibbs, at 22l. a year, for three years—the agreement was never signed—I asked for a reference—he gave me this paper, "John Everett, 8, Argyle-street, New-road, King's-cross, now stopping at 3, Haverford-terrace, Caledonian-road, at Mr. Ferris's"—he said he came from Southampton, that he had a situation under Government,
as tide-waiter, at 170l. a year—I went to Argyle-street, and saw Webb—I asked if Mr. Everett was at home—Mary Ann Piper came up, said he was gone out, and would not be back till Tuesday—I asked her several questions—she said she had known Mr. Tibbs many years—she gave him a good character, and I let the house to him.
Cross-examined. Q. You have got your money? A. I got 30s., which they sent me from Newgate, which their lodgers had paid, and I have had money since, 3l. 5s. altogether.
JAMES JENKINSON (policeman, G 53.) On 1st April, about seven o'clock in the morning, I went to 14, River-street, Maiden-lane, with Morris and another constable—the street door was opened—I knocked—Webb came, and I asked if Mr. Jones was at home—I said that on purpose—she said, "I think you make a mistake in the name—Morris came to the door, and said, "That is her"—she tried to close the door—I forced it open—we found Mary Ann Webb in a back-room—she ran into the parlour, locked the door, and took the key out—I told Morris to take the women, and I went into the yard, got in at the window, and found John Piper in bed—I said I took him for obtaining money under false pretences—he laughed, and said, "You can make nothing of that, it is only a debt"—I searched the house and produce a quantity of property, and seventy-eight duplicates.
Cross-examined. Q. Have you got all here? A. I should have required a van to bring them all.
JOHN PIPER— GUILTY. Aged 34.— Confined Eighteen Months.
MARY ANN PIPER— GUILTY. Aged 40.
MARY WEBB— GUILTY. Aged 16.
OLD COURT.—Tuesday, May 23rd, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald. COPELAND; Mr. RECORDER; Mr. Ald. SIDNEY: and Mr. Ald. MOON.
Before Mr. Recorder and the Second Jury.
GEORGE ST. VINCENT KING , Esq. I am a captain in the Royal Navy, and reside at 5, Eaton-terrace, Pimlico. The prisoner was in my service for a fortnight, as cook and housemaid. On 15th May, in consequence of information, I sent for her, and asked how the soap got into her room—she said she did not know, somebody must have put it there—I said, "I suspect you"—she said she did not, she thought there was a conspiracy, or something of that sort—there was 3 1/2 lbs. of soap, it was very common, for the use of the house.
ELIZABETH JOHNSON. I am housekeeper to Captain King. On the Saturday evening I found some soap in a closet in the prisoner's bed-room—I took it away, and told Lady Caroline King, who had previously missed some money—this is it (produced)—it is cut in the way in which I deliver it out for use in the house—I usually gave the prisoner one or two pieces at a time, when she asked me—I have not given her soap more than twice—I have not given her as much as this all the time she has been there—it was kept in a closet in the housekeeper's room—that was kept locked, but I left the keys in it one night.
Prisoner. It was found in a cupboard where dirty linen was kept. Witness. She kept her own dirty linen there—she always kept that cupboard locked until the day I found the soap—there were no things of mine in it—she used to get tipsy, and I looked into the cupboard to see if she kept drink there—I found none.
Prisoner's Defence. I know nothing about it, nor who put it there.
MESSRS. RYLAND and LAURIE conducted the Prosecution.
SARAH FISHER. I am the wife of William Fisher, and live at Poplar. On Monday afternoon, 3rd April, I got into an omnibus at Blackwall, for the purpose of going to Lambeth—I sat on the left-hand side as I got is, and there was about room for two or three persons between me and the door—a person sat between me and the door—there was room far one or more between me and that person—I had about 17s. in silver, wrapped up in a piece of paper, in my pocket on my right-hand side, which would be nearest the door—it was a pocket made in the dress—the prisoner got into the omnibus in St. Paul's churchyard—I had ascertained that my money was safe just before—I had occasion to use my handkerchief, which was in the same pocket, and I felt my money safe—I am quite sure of that—the prisoner sat on my right, between me and the party next the door—I am quite certain that she got in at St. Paul's-churchyard—there were more persons in the omnibus, but not on my right side—they were sitting opposite, and at the other end—it was nearly full—the prisoner sat quite close to me—the omnibus went straight on to the end of Bridge-street or Farringdon-street—the prisoner got out there—I went to use my handkerchief again, when she got out, and found it hanging to my pocket, and my money was gone—I named it to a person in the omnibus, and she advised me to tell the conductor to stop—the omnibus was stopped, and I got out—I had not observed which way the prisoner went—the conductor told me, and I went in that direction—it was towards the bridge—I met the prisoner coming back from the bridge—she was about us far up the street as Bride-court—I told her that she had taken the money from me—she said she had not, that she had plenty of money—she showed me her purse, and wished me to go home with her to see her respectability—I declined doing so, and gave her into custody—there was one half-crown among my money, and shillings and sixpences—I am quite sure the prisoner is the only person that sat close to me, and she threw her dress over me several times—she had a plaid silk dress with flonnces, and a visette, which she has on now—she threw her dress over my knees two or three times, spreading it out.
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. She sat down in a somewhat restless way, and spread her gown out as ladies do? A. No; she spread it over me, not on the other side, only on my side—she took off her cuffs and put them into her pocket which was nearest my side—her left hand was nearest to me—I cannot say at what part of St. Paul's Churchyard she got in—she told me afterwards that she had got in there, I think that was at the
Police-office, but I knew that she got in at St. Paul's Church-yard before she told me so—she did not say she thought it was a Camberwell omnibus—when I saw her in Bridge-street she was not standing loitering about, she was coming towards me, not walking very fast—she was looking about her—I was going as far as Waterloo-bridge, but I got out, having no money to pay for going across the bridge when I found my money was gone—I think three females got out between Blackwall and Bridge-street, and one got in before the prisoner—I had nothing in my pocket but the money and my handkerchief—the money was wrapped in a piece of sugar paper—I have not seem that paper again.
COURT. Q. Your handkerchief had been disturbed in the act of removing the money? A. That is what I thought—the prisoner did not any where she lived—she said she would call a cab and take me to her residence.
JAMES NOONE (City-policeman, 664). About four o'clock on Monday afternoon, 3rd April, I was passing along Bridge-street, Blackfriars, and saw Mrs. Fisher and the prisoner—Mrs. Fisher called me and said, "That lady has been robbing me"—I took her to the station—she gave her address, 4, Great Union-street, Borough—I went there that same evening, but learned nothing of her there—if she did live there she would he going out of her way is coming from St. Paul's Churchyard to get out at Bridge-street.
Cross-examined. Q. Do you mean to say that it is not as neat a way to Union-street as any? A. No; I think London-bridge is nearer.
JOHN CARD. On 3rd April I was conductor to a Blackwall omnibus—we left Blackwall that afternoon at thirteen minutes past two o'clock—I know Mrs. Fishet by taking her up that day—I never recollect her travelling by my bus before—I do not recollect taking up any passenger in St. Paul's Church-yard—I recollect taking passengers up in Cheapside, between the Globe Insurance office, Cornhill, and Friday-street, or about there—I set some down at the Globe office—I was full there—I came along the Poultry and Cheapside—Mrs. Fisher got out in Fleet-street, near St. Bride's church, to the best of my recollection—I cannot say whereabouts in Cheapside I took up my last passenger, it was somewhere about Friday-street or Old changes I think—I have no recollection of the prisoner—one or two females got in, and a gentleman also, but I cannot say, it is so long ago, and I have so many passengers now fares are so cheap, I take no notice of them, they give me their money and away they go—a female got out at the corner of Bridge-street—I have no recollection of the prisoner—when Mrs. Fisher got out she complained of having been robbed in my omnibus—she did not pay me, she gave me her address, and I called.
ELIZABETH JOYS. I am searcher at the Fleet-street station. On 3rd April I searched the prisoner—I found on her a gold watch and chain, two keys, a purse, and 3d. in copper—there was no money in the purse then—it had been give up tot he sergeant at the desk—this is the purse (produced.)
Cross-examined. Q. There was no piece of paper? A. No—she had about 4l. in gold, and some silver—I found no loose silver on her.
JOSEPH DUDDY (City policeman, 46.) I was station-sergeant when the prisoner was brought in, on 3rd April—Mrs. Fisher charged her with robbing her in an omnibus—the prisoner said she was a very bad woman for making such an accusation; that she had not robbed her—I then proceeded to enter the charge, and asked her name—she said Mary Taylor—I asked her address—she made no answer—I then said, "this is a very serious charge against you, and if you are innocent of it, it will go far to convince me you are so if you give me your correct address, and refer me to persons who know you to
be a respectable woman"—she then gave her address, 4, Great Union-street, Borough—from the manner in which she gave that address I believed it to be incorrect, and told her so—she said it was not—she had this purse in her hand when she was brought to the station—she turned the money out of it on to the desk, and it contained four sovereigns, two half-sovereigns, one half-crown, 18s., eight sixpences, and one 4d. piece—I had previously asked Mrs. Fisher what she had lost, and she said about 17s. in silver, wrapped in a piece of paper—I asked her, in the prisoner's presence, the description of coin—she said they were principally shillings and sixpences, but there was only one-half crown; the other coins she could not be positive to—there was only one half-crown among the money which the prisoner had.
GUILTY.*† Aged 27.— Transported for Ten Years.
1363. GEORGE WILKS and JANE WALKER were indicted (with Samuel and Mary Smith, not in custody) for stealing 19 spoons, 4 salt-spoons, 1 pair of sugar-tongs, 6 forks, 1 watch, 1 guard-chain, 1 seal, 4 rings, and 1 brooch, value 50l.; 1 10l., and 25l.-notes, and 25 sovereigns; the property of Eliza Rebecca Lloyd, in her dwelling-house; and MARY RICKETTS and MATILDA RICKETTS , feloniously receiving a 10l. note, part of the said property.
MESSRS. RYLAND and LAURIE conducted the Prosecution.
ELIZA REBECCA LLOYD. In March last I kept the Red Lion, in King edward-street, St. Martin's-le-Grand. My family consisted of three little children of my sister's, one maid-servant the prisoner Jane Walker, one man-servant, named William Roberts, and a person named Birchnall, who assisted me at the bar—I had a black box in my bed-rom, which contained six silver table-spoons, two desert and eleven tea-spoons, four salt-ladles, one pair of sugar-tongs, some forks, a silver watch, chain nd seal, four rings, a brooch a 10l.-note, two 5l.-notes, 25l. in gold, a promissory-note for 100l., and a stock receipt for 470l.—the plate and jewellery were on a tray in the box, and the money and notes in a work-box under that tray—on 20th March I had two charwomen at the house, Hannah Shepherd and Mary Smith, the wife of Samuel Smith, of Philpot-street, Commercial-road, I believe—I had one lodger, named Hambridge—a person named Baker was there, as a customer—a great many persons came in as customers, but no other persons were living there besides those I have named—Mr. M'Millan was there that day, assisting me in the business, as I did not understand it—about seven o'clock, on 20th March, I sent Walker and Mrs. Smith to my bed-room, which is No. 1, to make the bed—the box was in that room—I had been in the room a very short time before, and the box was then safe—I afterwards sent them up to the top of the house, to remove a large old linen-press, which I wanted brought down—they would have to pass my bed-room in going up, but would not have to bring it down so far—one of the children slept with me, and the other two in No. 3, on the same floor, where the maid-servant slept—there were two beds in that room—about nine o'clock, in consequence of information from Birchnall, I went up stairs, and foud the box had been broken open—some of the things were strewed on the floor, and I missed the articles I have stated—there was a quantity of tallow grease on the box, as if the candle grease had been dropped on it—the two women would have had a candle when they went up—Walker has been with me since 26th Jan., but was with my late sister from 4th Nov.—she was in the habit of going to my bed-room when anything was required to
be done—I have shut the box when she has been in the room; she has seen me go to it, and has come into the room when I have been closing it—I do not know that she has seen that money was there—Walker recommended Mrs. Smith to me as a charwoman—on 8th Jan. I had received six half year's dividends at the bank on 470l. stock, which amounted to 41l. or 42l.—this is the warrant (produced)—it is signed by myself—I received the money for it from a cashier at the Bank of England, one 10l. note, two 5l.-notes, and the rest in gold—I know the number of the notes—I placed them in that box—they were taken out of the box when it was broken open—I did not write my name on the notes.
Walker. I know nothing of the robbery; I did go up with a candle to make the bed, but never noticed the box; I was not there many minutes; Mrs. Smith and I made the bed, shut the door, and came down again to our tea; we then fetched the press down stairs to No. 6 room, came down stairs, and went into the kitchen; the barmaid told me it was time to put the children to bed, and I put the little boy to bed—I went to mistress's room to fetch his night-gown, and found the things strewed all about the floor; I then asked the barmaid if mistress had been up to the box. Witness. I do not know that she is the person who gave the barmaid information—sometimes the barmaid put the children to bed—I sent her up that night to do it.
Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. You do not know the numbers of the notes of yourself, do you? A. Yes—I know this note was safe on the Sunday, the day before the robbery, because I saw the box it was in, and the key was in my pocket.
HUGH M'MILLAN. I live in the Waterloo-road. On 20th March I was at the Read Lion, assisting Mrs. Lloyd in her business—I went there at half-past eleven o'clock, and remained till the next day—Mrs. Lloyd came into the parlour where I was, and told me she missed the things—I went up with her, found the box broken open, and the things strewed about the room.
Walker. You had a candle. Witness. I think I had; but the policeman first examined the lock of the box, and I was standing looking on—it had been forced open, as if with a fork, and there was a deal of tallow on the leather that goes over—the policeman directed our attention to it.
ELIZA EMILY BIRCHNALL. I assisted Mrs. Lloyd, as barmaid, on this evening. About seven o'clock I went up to No. 1, Mrs. Lloyd's room, and saw the black box was standing there—I did not take much notice of it, but it was in its usual place—I went up again alone, at nine o'clock, to put the children to bed—I went to put one in Mrs. Lloyd's room, and found the room in confusion, and the things strewed about the floor out of the box, which was borken open—I immediately gave an alarm—Walker did not give me any intimation of what had happened—I did not meet her in the room—I had seen the prisoner Wilks at the bar once that day; I do not recollect what time it was.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Had you ever seen him before? A. No.
GEORGE BAKER. I live at 4, Poplar-row, New Kent-road. On Monday, 20th March, I was at the Red Lion, in the parlour, as a customer—I went in at about three minutes to eight o'clock, to have a pint of ale, and left at a quarter to nine, before any alarm was given of the robbery—I did not hear of it till next morning—I know a man named Samuel Smith; I saw him there that evening—I saw him run out of the house at a quarter to nine, within a minute, one way or the other—as I came out of the parlour he ran against me—I had never seen him there before, to my knowledge—he
appeared to be in a bustle and hurry, and that took my attention—I came out of the parlour-door opposite the bar, and he came from the back part of the house, and ran out at the front door—the staircase, kitchen, and yard door are all on the right of the parlour door.
WILLIAM ROBERTS. On 20th March I was potman at this house. At about half-past eight o'clock I saw Samuel Smith in the tap-room—I saw him two or three times, but only saw him go out once—his wife, Mary Smith, was in the habit of charing for Mrs. Lloyd, and he came every night while I was there to fetch her home; but he went out without her that evening—I know a man named Jones; I saw him there—he was pot boy there before me—I saw him there about two that day, not after that—he had left Mrs. Lloyd's service about a week before.
HANNAH SHEPHERD. I live at Somers'-town, and am a charwoman. On Monday, 20th March, I was charing at Mrs. Lloyd's all day—Mary Smith was at work with me—I saw her husband there about a quarter or twenty minutes to nine o'clock—he came to the kitchen-door, and asked for his wife—I had never been there before when Mrs. Smith was charing there—I did not see smith go away—I told him I would go and see—I went up to Mrs. Lloyd's room, and she told me to go back again—I went into the kitchen, and never saw Mr. or Mrs. Smith, or Walker after—Smith did not wait for my answer.
WILLIAM HAMBRIDGE. I am a commission-agent, and from 10th Jan, to 20th March lived at Mrs. Lloyd's house. On the evening of 20th March I was in the parlour from half-past seven till eleven o'clock or half-past—I did not leave the parlour all that time—I was informed of the robbery about half-past nine, by Mr. M'Millan.
JOHN BRENCHLEY (policeman, K 2.) In consequence of information I went with M'Millan and Bloomfield, about three o'clock in the morning, to the house where Samuel Smith lived—I first proceeded to search Smith's room, and afterwards Jones's—while there Wilks came to the house—Bloomfield let him in—he came to the door of the room on the ground-floor, where we were, and said he wanted a man named Smith—I asked if he knew him—he said he did—I then said, "This is Mr. Smith," and he said, "Oh, no, he is not the man"—I said, "This is Mr. Smith"—he said, "Oh, no, I wanted a man named Smith, who is living with a woman"—I told him to stop, and went out into the passage with Mr. M'Millan, and told him we were detaining that man, and in consequence of the robbery being committed, and his coming to the house when the other two were taken on suspicion, I thought I ought to detain him—he said he could not help it—I took Smith, Jones, and Wilks to the station—I searched Wilks, and found on him 14l. in gold, 19s. 8d. in silver, and 2d, in copper, and a key (produced)—he said he got the money by hard work—I asked what he was—he said a dock labourer—I knew him before—I had seen him about a month before—I do not know where he had been recently before that—I asked where he lived—he said, "In John-street, Limehouse-fields"—I asked what number—he said there was no number—I endeavoured to find such a person there, and could not hear anything about him—he appeared sober.
GEORGE BLOOMFIELD (City policeman, 386.) I received information of this robbery from Roberts, and went with him to Mrs. Lloyd's—went up stairs into her room, and there saw a box broken open, and thrown down on one side—I examined the lock, it had been broken open by some instruments—I believe a fork—there was tallow grease dropped all over the hasp of the box, where it was broken—I afterwards accompanied Brenchley and Mr. M'Millan
to 3, Philpot-street, York-square, and while there the prisoner Wilks came—I admitted him.
THOMAS DAVIS. I was in the service of Mr. Needham, a linen-draper, in Shoreditch. On Tuesday morning, 21st March, between nine and ten o'clock, the two Ricketts' came to our shop together—I had not known either of them before—they made purchases to the amount of 20s. 3d.—Matilds Ricketts paid for them with a 10l. Bank of England note—I asked her her name and address, for the purpose of endorsing it on the note—she gave the name of Mrs. Johnson—I do not recollect the address—I put it on the note—the other prisoner was near enough to hear what was said—this is the note (produced)—it is, "Mrs. Johnson, Thomas-street, Hackney-road"—I gave them the change.
Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. How long had you been with Mr. Needham? A. About six months—I am not there now.
GEORGE WHITE. I am also assistant to Mr. Needham. On Tuesday, 21st March, I took the note that has been produced to the Bank of England, to get it changed—I wrote Mr. Needham's name on it there—I found it was stopped, and returned immediately in search of the prisoners, taking policeman, H 117 with me—I have known Mary Ricketts for some time by sight—I did not know the other—after some difficulty, I found Matilds Ricketts at 2, Copper's-gardens, the same morning—I said, "I think you were at our house this morning, your name is Ricketts?" she said, "Yes"—I said, "I am come respecting a 10l. note which you changed there, which I find is stopped at the Bank; will you go back with me?"—she said, "Yes"—she was just coming out with her bonnet on, apparently going to market—she said she had received a note from a gentleman that morning, between two and three o'clock—she said she did not know the gentleman—after a time she altered it, and said her husband gave it to her—I gave her into custody—I afterwards went to Thomas-street, the address on the note—I could not find any such person there—I went to ten or twelve places before I found either of the prisoners—I found her at a private house—there was no business in which she would be receiving a note to change.
Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. Who lived there besides? A. Her mother, the other prisoner—a person, named Johnson, lived at 28, Thomas-street—I think I have said before, that she said her husband gave it her—she first said a gentleman gave it her, and she repeated that at the station—she said her husband was our, and would be home at one o'clock—I asked if she was married—she said, "Yes"—I asked if her name was Johnson—she said "Yes"—that was when I went to the house—I am quite sure that she contradicted herself, and said her husband gave it to her; it might be a few minutes after she had said she received it from a gentleman—I am positive she said so—she has no husband—she gave her maiden name at the policeoffice—she said she had received it from her husband, and she wished us to wait till he came home, because he would be pleased at what she had bought, a pair of blankets and a dress, by changing the 10l. note—I cannot recollect whether I said that before—I saw the mother at 2, Copper's-gardens, the same place where I saw the daughter.
JAMES MOSELY (policeman, H 117.) On Tuesday, 21st March, I went with White to Copper's Gardens, to loof for the two prisoners—we found Matilda Ricketts—I asked her how she came in possesaion of the 10l. note—she said a gentleman gave it to her in Shoreditch—Mr. White gave her in custody on the charge of stealing the 10l.-note—on the way to the station she told me that it was a mechanic that gave it to her, a former acquaintance
of hers, and that he gave it her on the morning previous—I know Wilks by sight—I have seen him in the street in the neighbourhood of Whitechapel—I have never seen him in the company with any one.
EDWIN AUGUSTUS BUSHELL. I am a clerk in the Bank of England. I produced a 10l. bank-note, dated 10th November, 1847, No. 85882—it was stopped and detained by the Secretary—it is not cancelled—I also produce a dividend warrant, No. 67717, for 6l. 16s. 11d., a divident on 470l. stock.
RICHARD SMITH. I am one of the cashiers of the Bank of England. About the 8th January I paid Mrs. Lloyd a sum of money on this warrant—it is signed by her, and cancelled by myself—this 10l. note is part of what I paid her.
WILLIAM EDWARD BALL (policeman, 365). I have known Wilks about eight or nine months, and Matilds Ricketts also—I have seen them in company together—Ricketts lived in Cooper's Gardens, and previous to that, in Austin-street—I have seen them in the street in Shoreditch, about the door of No. 2, where the two Ricketts lived—I cannot say that Wilks lived with Matilda Ricketts—I have no means of knowing that—all I know is that I have seen them at the door of the house.
COURT. Q. Have you any means of knowing where Wilks lived on 20th March? A. I have not—Cooper's Gardens is about two miles from the Red lion—I believe it is about two miles from Smith's house, where Wilks was found.
Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. When did you last see Wilks and Matilda Ricketts together? A. At the beginning of March, after the February Session, they were talking together in Cooper's Gardens—I had seen them before that, two or three times—I have known both the Ricketts six or seven years—I never knew anything wrong of them.
MR. WILLIAM WADHAM COPE. I am the governor of Newgate. The prisoner Wilks has been recently under my care—he left on 1st March—he was committed on 26th February—he was searched on coming in, and had neither money or anything else about him—he took nothing out.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. He was charged with some offence, and acquitted? Yes; he went out on 1st March—he was here a very few days.
Walker. The candle grease was not perceived till the morning. Witness. It was perceived that night; the policeman directed attention to it directly.
Walker's Defence. I never saw anything of it, and know nothing of it; the parties are all strangers to me; I have been inn service fifteen years, and was never under a key in my life.
(Mary and Matilda Ricketts received good characters.)
WILKS. GUILTY † Aged 30.— Transported for seven Years.
MATILDA RICKETTS— GUILTY. Aged 18.— Confined One Year.
NEW COURT.—Tuesday, May 23rd, 1848.
PRESENT—Mr. Ald COPELAND; Sir CHAPMAN MARSHALL, Knt., Ald.; and Mr. COMMON SERKEANT.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Sixth Jury.
GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Six Months.
(The prosecutor did not appear.) NOT GUILTY.
JONAS LEVY. On 11th April I met the prisoner—she had been in my service—I looked her in the face, I thought I might be mistaken—I walked a step or two past her—she ran away; I ran and took her—these articles produced are my wife's.
DOROTHY LEVY. The prisoner was in my service—this handkerchief, lace, and night-gowns were on the drawers—I left the prisoner in the house with a little girl, came back and she was gone and the articles also, and the baby left by itself—I am positive these articles are mine—I have some lace in my pocket to match this—I redeemed some articles which were in pawn.
FRANCIS KELLY (policeman, 130 H.) I found this handkerchief and lace in Somerset-street, in a box belonging to another girl—the prisoner said the stopped there after she left her mistress—I took the girl; she was discharged by the Magistrate—I found this night-gown at a pawnbroker's in the city.
Prisoner. It is mine; I paid 1s. 6d. for it. Witness. I took it off when I went in—I swear to it.
Prisoner's Defence. I bought it in Paradise-row, on 29th May last; I have been living in this woman's house eleven weeks; she keeps a common bad house.
JULIA O'GRADY I am the wife of Mortimer O'Grady, of Simmon's-street, Chelsea. On 17th April I went out between eight and nine o'clock—I returned at one and my coal-box was gone—I went up stairs to the prisoner's door and told her to open it—she said she would not for me or any one else—I
called a policeman—my daughter went up to the prisoner's room, and found the box—there had been a few coals in ti—I cannot say how mush—I bought it of the prisoner—I gave her some goods out of my shop for it.
Prisoner. It was three halfpence worth of bad butter; my husband gave it her back and she struck him in the face.
ELLEN O'GRADY. I missed the coal-box—it was my mother's—we had had it five or six weeks—I found it in the prisoner's room—I asked her for it—she would not give it me—I went in and took it—there were no coals in in then, she had burnt them—there were coals in it in the morning.
Prisoner. She said on Friday she would fix me, and next morning she got a policeman.
GUILTY. Aged 62.— Confined Nine Months
Prisoner. I never saw this man and never was in the shop. Witness. I wrote the duplicate—our foreman took the gown in, and he swore to you also.
GUILTY. Aged 25.— Confined Nine months.
(The prosecutor did not appear.)
1372. EDWARD MORRIS, BENJAMIN GARDENER , and HENRY MEYERS , stealing 19 feet of wire, value 4s.; the goods of Thomas Colchester; 30 feet of wire, value 4s.; the goods of George perigal; and 33 feet of wire, value 4s.; the goods of Robert Poultney; Morris having been before convicted.
HENRY EDWARDS (policeman, 128 S.) On the evening of 25th April I saw the prisoners together coming down Cottage-street—morris went on, I went after him and asked what he had got—he said, "Nothing"—I felt in his pocket and found some bell wires—I took him to the station, came back, and took the other two prisoners—I found on Gardener this pair of nippers for cutting bell wires—Myers threw down two bell wires—Morris has nine bell wires in his pocket—this is one of them—the other is among the rest—I cannot swear to it.
WILLIAM MOORE. On 25th April I was on duty at the station. Edwards brought these two bell wires—one of them came from Mr. Colchester's—I went round at daylight next morning and found several bell wires had been taken—I went to Mr. Colchester's and cut a piece off the wires at Mr. Poultney's and mr. Penfold's—they correspond in length, size and quality—I found footmarks which correspond with Gardener's shoes, in Mr. Pou;tney's, Mr. Perigal's and three other gardens in Camden Town-villas—this is one wire that Meyers threw down—this wire of mr. Poultney's was found on Gardener in two pieces.
RICHARD COOPER. I am a bell-hanger—I have compared these wires to the different houses—this is of the same size as that which remains and the length corresponds—I believe they came from those different houses.
Morris's Defence. We picked them up; they had no pockets to carry found the wires.
Meyer's Defence. He found nothing on me; he went back and said he found the wires.
MORRIS— GUILTY. Aged 13.— Confined One Year.
GARDENER— GUILTY. Aged 16.
MEYERS—— GUILTY. Aged 17.
Confined Three Months.
CATHERINE FAHEY. On 2nd may I got a check for 1l. cashed—I them went to the Broadway, Westminster, and saw the prisoner—she asked who I wanted; I said a person of such a name—she said."I don't think such a person lives here"—I went up staris in a house and treated her to some rum—she asked if I would buy a gown; I said I would not mind—we went to a pawnbroker's—I took out my money and paid 1s. 6d. to the pawnbroker and 6d. to the prisoner—we then went to see if we could hear anything of the woman I wanted—the prisoner found a person who said the woman had left the neighbourhood—as I had nothing to eat or drink since six o'clock, I went to a publick-house and called for a quartern of gin and a little cold water—I sat down—the prisoner came and sat by my side—I heard the money jink in my pocket; put my hand in my pocket and took out my money—I had 14s. 4d.—I found but 8s. 4d.—the prisoner left me—I kept her in sight, and came up to her—she turned round and said "What are you up to"—I said, "I came for that money you took out of my pocket"—she said, "Come on; come on"—I saw a policeman, and said she had robbed me—I saw her put some money from her pocket into her
bosom—she shifted it from there to her mouth—they took it out with the handle of a knife.
JANE JONES. I am a searcher—I found a sixpence in the prisoner's pockets and one penny—I undid her dress—she put her hand in her bosom, pulled some silver out and put it in her mouth—I called for assistance, and three shillings were taken from her mouth.
Prisoner's Defence. I was going away; I shook hands with her and she came and asked what I had done with her money; if I took it I should not stand to speak to her.
GUILTY. Aged 36.— Transported for Seven yeras.
Cross-examined by MR. BRIARLY. Q. How do you know them? A. Here is one with a plug out of it—I never saw one so before—I saw them again on 29th—I never saw the prisoner in my house to my knowledge—I cannot identify half that come.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you know him? A. By seeing him two or three times before—I bought them in a beer-shop kept by Nicholls, my son-in-law, who has been tried for assisting certain thieves.
ROBERT GILES. I am shopman to George Jackson and Sons—the prisoner was their errand boy—on the morning of 27th April I watched and saw him take a key out his waistcoat-pocket, open the till and take money out three times—I told the cashier—he went to the prisoner, who gave up half-a-crown and put it on the counter—he was told that was not all—he then took three pence from his right-hand pocket—he was told that was not all, and took another half-crown from his stocking and gave that up—I said he had better give up the key—he produced it—it fitted the till.
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. How old is he? A. Thirteen in june—he has been two years in our service—I believe he was as good a boy as there was in the place—I am afraid he has got into bad company.
The prisoner received a good character, and a witness engaged to employ him.
GUILTY. Aged 12.— Confined Ten Days and Whipped.
EDWARD FUNNELL , (City-policeman 32.) I was sent for to watch on 2nd May, and about twenty minutes before seven o'clock in the morning, I saw the prisoner come out of mr. Moses' stable in Sussex-mews, with this basket full of corn—he brought it up the yard, went through a public houses, through about three back streets, and round to Huntsworth-mews, where a young man met him—he went to a cab house, went up stairs, I followed him—when he got up he asked where the father was; a man in the next room, in bed, hallooed out, "Here am I"—the prisoner looked round and saw me standing behind him; he looked confused—there was a woman there; she seemed confused—she asked me what I wanted—I said, "I am a police-officer; I want to know whose property that is"—the prisoner said, "It is my own"—he had then got the basket half-way into the door of the room—I seized it—we had a struggle up to the corner—the prisoner said to the boy, "Take the basket away," but the boy did not—the prisoner said, "I don't know that you are a constable; show your authority"—I took out my staff, and he said, "I will go with you"—in going down he tried to turn the basket over, and said he would give me any money not to take him—I took him to his master.
Cross-examined by MR. PARNELL. Q. Have you seen the father since? A. No; the son is not here—the prisoner told his master the cab man asked him to lend him a few oats till the end of the week, and he would return them—I have a sample of oats from the bulk in the stable.
GUILTY. Aged 33.— Confined Nine Months
ELIZABETH BARKER. I live in Sloane-street, Chelsea. On 11th May I missed a pair of shoes from a box in my bed-room—the prisoner was in my service—I sent for a policeman; he found the shoes in the prisoner's box—these are them.
GUILTY. Aged 15.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury.— Confined Fourteen Days.
LYDIA DANCOCKS. I am the wife of Samuel Dancocks, of Church-street, Chelsea—the prisoner was in my employ. On 27th April, about half-past seven o'clock in the morning, she went up stairs; when she came down I heard money rattle—I had left two sixpences and a fourpenny piece in a bowl on the counter—I went up and it was gone—I know the fourpenny piece by a black mark on the face—this is it.
Prisoner. Q. Did you receive a good character with me? Witness. A. Yes.
WILLIAM JOHNSON (policeman, 90 V.) I took the prisoner—I found in a small band box, 3s. 3 1/4d, and two sixpences in silver, three half crowns in her pocket, one sixpence and three fourpenny pieces—this was one them.
Prisoner. The fourpenny piece I took off the carpet; I quite forgot it; I had had it a quarter of an hour.
LYDIA DANCOCKS re-examined. I had seen it about three minutes before—she had to go through the shop to go up stairs—there was no carpet—I had told her she was not likely to suit me—she was only one week with me—I wanted her to go at a fortnight's warning, but she would not.
GUILTY. Aged 20.—Recommeneded to mercy by the Jury.— Confined One Month.
SAMUEL CHAPMAN. I am foreman to John Smith, of 52, Long-acre. The prisoner has been in his service for a number of years—we missed some books—these produced by Mr. Lockyer are his—they are Government books, and were in his care for the supply of the Military Library—there are twenty thousand of them.
GUILTY. Aged 45.— Confined One Year. (There was another indictment against the prisoner, and, since his committal, duplicates had been found of 119 more books of his master.)
THIRD COURT.—Tuesday, May 23rd, 1848.
Before Edward Bullock, Esq. and the Fourth Jury.
GUILTY .—and received good characters.—GIBBS, Confined six Months. —COHEN, Confined Twelve months.
(There was another indictment againt Cohen.)
MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the Prosecution.
JOSEPH THORN. I live at Maidenhead-court, Cripplegate. I was secretary to the Finsbury House Estate Company—the prisoner was appointed collector—there was no agreement in writing, but we have a minute of his appointment in the book—it was not read over to him—he was not present when it was made—I was present when he was engaged—he was to collect the Company's rents, at four per cent. commission, and to pay the money he received on Monday evenings—he was to account to me—he never paid or accounted to me for 5l. received from Mr. miller for rent, in February or March—if he received it on 6th March he should have paid me that evening, or, if he received it after that, on the next Monday—he gave me no account on the monday after March 6th—I saw him that day, the 13th—I asked him about Mr. miller's rent—he said he had not
received it—on the 20th he was asked by one of the committee who had been to Mr. Miller, if he had received Mr. Miller's rent—I was present—he said, "No"—the question was repeated, "Are you sure of that?"—he said, "I am"—the gentleman said, "I am acquainted with Mr. Miller, and I am informed it is paid"—he said, "I cannot help what you have been informed; on my honour, I have not received it"—he did not come on the next Monday night, but sent the money he had collected—I was sent to his house, found him there, and gave him in charge.
Ceoss-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. How long have you been secretary? A. Two years and a quarter—we had a collector before the prisoner—this is the book in which his appointment is inserted—(produced)—his acceptance of it is not recorded—no other person was entitled to receive money—there was no arrangement that it was not to be paid in till it amounted to 20l.—I cannot recollect how much he sent on 20th March—it might be 4l. or 5l., or more—he generally paid 4l. or 5l., but never 20l.—he asked for time to make up the 5l.—he had time—it was a month after it was found out that he was given in charge—he could make about 9l. a year by this—he has a wife and children—he is collector to similar societies and to private individuals—we had a good character with him.
JOHN WARRRN. I am a trustee and member of the Finsbury House Estate Company. There are twenty-four other member—Mr. Thorn is secretary, and receives the money—it was the prisoner's duty to account to him—I was not present when the prisoner was engaged.
SAMUEL WILLIAM MILLER. I live in Duke-street, Westminster-road. My father holds the house, 43, Allerton-street, Hoxton—the prisoner received the rent of it for the company—on 4th Feb. he called on me for 5l., which was due, and showed me a receipt—I had not enough to pay him, and he told me to pay it to Mrs. Drake at his houser, and he would leave the receipt with her for me, and it would be quite correct—I had done so before—on 6th March I paid Mrs. Drake the money, and got the receipt which the prisoner had shown me—this is it—I have no doubt it is his writing——I have seen him write—(read)—"Received of Mr. Miller 5l., for one quarter's rent due at Christmas, 1847, for the house No. 43, Allerton-street, Hoxton, for the Trusteen of the Finsbury House Society. R. DRAKE, 4th Feb. 1848."
WILLIAM HOLLAND (policeman.) I took the prisoner—I told him he was charged with embezzling 5l., and other moneys of the society—he said he dose it through distress, but if Tuesday was given him he would make up the money.
Cross-exmined. Q. Do you mean those were the words he said? A. He said, "It was through distress'—he said so more than twice.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
(The Jury having consulted for above five hours, and being unable to agree, were discharged from giving any verdict.)
JOSEPH ANSTON REICKLE. I am a clock and watch-maker, at Brill-row, Somers-town. On 30th April I was in Bagnigge Wells-road, with Miss Greenfield, a few minutes after twelve o'clock at night—I was not sober, and was taken by the police to the station—as they dragged me along, I saw my watch-chain hanging round my neck—a young woman spoke to me, and I
missed my watch from my right waistcoat-pocket—I have not seen it since—it was safe about ten minutes before—I looked at it as I came out of the Bagnigge Wells-road.
Cross-examined by MR. PENDERGAST. Q. Had you and Miss Greenfield been drinking together? A. Yes; and another young man and woman, at the York and Albany, Regent's-park—they are in the country now—we parted with them at St. Pancras-road—we had a glass of ale in the Bagnigge Wells-road, when Greenfield asked me to look at the watch—I did so, and then let it hang, and she put it into my pocket—I had never seen the prisoner before.
ELIZABETH GREENFIELD. I was with the last witness on this Sunday night, a few minutes past twelve o'clock—he was tips—I do not think he knew what he was about—I was by his side—one policeman came up, and then two more—a policeman took him—my brother came to meet me, as I am not often one so late—the prisoner came up—I knew him before—he asked my brother what was the matter—he told him—he said, "—I do not see why one man should not be locked up as well as another"—I told him not to say what was the matter—he said he ought not to be locked up, went up to Mr. Reickle, behind him, and put his arms round him to take from the policeman—one policeman was on each side of him—the prisoner them got a short distance off, and ran away—I had asked Reickle the time at twelve—he took the watch out, and put it into his waistcoat pocket.
Cross-examined. Q. Were there many people? A. Not twenty—I did not want him to be taken in charge—he was knocking his walking-stick on the pavement—the policeman said, "I say, do you want me there?"—we did not speak—he came after us, and said so again—Mr. Reickle said, "No; I did not say anything to you"—he said, "Walk on or I will take the pair of you into custody"—I said, "Don't speak to us; if you walk on, we shall walk on"—Reickle said, "I shall not walk on unless you walk on"—that caused a mob, and then they took him up—he was very quiet till the policeman spoke to him—I tried to get him away—I do not know that anyone else tried but the prisoner—I did not ask him to do so.
CHARLES WILLIAM GREENFIELD. I am brother of the last witness. I went into Bagnigge Wells-road about twelve o'clock that night, and saw Reickle in charge of the policeman, tipsy—my sister was about five yards from him—the prisoner, who I knew by sight, came up in three or four minutes, and asked me what was the matter—I said a friend of mine was in trouble—he said he did not see why one man should not be locked up as well as another—my sister said to the prisoner, "But he knows nothing about it"—the prisoner went into the mob, and in a few minutes went behind Reickle, who was between two policeman, put his hand under his arm to his waistcat-pocket, gave a snatch, then walked away a few yards, put his hand into his waistcoat-pocket, then to his mouth, and then ran away—I was almost in front of Reickle and the policemen—I told the policemen that the prisoner was gone—in a minute or two I saw Reickle's watch was gone—the guard was hanging by itself about his waistcoat.
Cross-examined. Q. You said nothing about it for some time? A. I said to the policemen. "Good God! some man must have taken his watch"—that was before I saw the chain hanging without the watch—I did not try to get him away—I did place my hand on him and speak to the policemen—there was a great mob—I did not see where the prisoner came from.
round his neck, and went into his pocket—that was after I had seen him in the mob—I spoke to the policeman afterwards—there was not much mob round the policemen then—I was persuading Reickle to go away, and Connelt took him from me, and kept him till another policeman came on the other side of him—the prisoner walked behind him, put his hand under his right arm, made a jerk, and ran away round Exmouth-street—nobody touched Reickle but the two policemen and the prisoner—in about two minutes his guard was hanging loose about his neck—the ends were loose and out of his pocket—I told the policemen.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you tell Reickle the policemen ought not to take him? A. I said, "The policemen will not meddle with you, if you come home"—he seemed rather obstreperous, and the policemen took him away from me again—there was a crowd going to the station.
JOHN CONNELL (policeman.) I took Reickle, for being tipsy, in Bagnigge Wells-road, on Sunday evening—another policeman assisted me—we were on each side of him—his friend came up; a great crowd assembled—I did not see whether he had a watch—I did not see the prisoner.
Cross-examined. Q. The crowd wanted very much to get your prisoner away? A. Yes—there was considerable pushing by a number of people—one of them said he had lost his watch—numbers of people interfered with him—I saw the chain hanging loose, when they directed my attention to it.
MARY CHEESEMAN. I am wife of William Robert Cheeseman, a warehouseman, of Dalston—the prisoner lived with me seven months, and left, kon 27th Feb., without notice. On 24th March I missed four duplicates from a work-box, which was kept on the sideboard—no one had access to it but me and the prisoner—I kept the key—she used the work-box—one duplicate was mine for a gown for 3s., and three were Mrs. Marshall's—they were for a gown, shawl, and pair of boots—I saw them safe about a week before the prisoner left.
Prisoner. Q. Was it not my work-box? A. Yes; but a fortnight before you left you gave it to my daughter Ann.
SUSANNAH LESSON. I am wife of John leeson, of Peacock-court, Minories—he works in the Docks—I know the prisoner. Ten weeks ago yesterday she called and asked me to go out with her, and made me a present of these gowns—(produced.)
ESTHER MARSHALL. I am wife of Thomas Marshall, of Arundel-grove, Newington-green—this gown is mine. Eight months ago I asked Mrs. cheeseman to let her daughter pledge it for me—I did not have the duplicate—I pledged two other articles that are not found, and left the tickets with Mrs. Cheeseman.
LOUISA CHEESEMAN. I am daughter of Mrs. Cheeseman, and live with her this gown is hers—it was in pawn—this other one Mrs. Marshall brought to my mother for me to pledge—I pledged it at Mr. Burgess's, at Kingsland, and gave both tickets to my mother—I have not seen them since—they were kept in a work-box with two other duplicates of Mrs. Marshall's
WILLIAM HOLLAND (policeman.) I took the prisoner, and told her the charge. received information, and went to a court in the Minories, and found this gown in a drawer in Leeson's house—I found this other gown at Holly-street, Dalston.
(The prisoner put in a written defence, staling that she left the house; as it to as the resort of persons who came to have their fortunes told by the planets, by Mrs. Cheeseman: that she removed five doors off, and five weeks afterwards was given in charge out of spite, and that Mrs. Marshall washed for Mrs. Cheeseman for having her fortune told.)
MRS. CHEESEMAN re-examined. I am not a fortune-teller—I never said I knew anything about the planets—nobody ever came that had access to the box—the prisoner had the key whenever she asked for it—I did not allow my daughter to have it—the prisoner left 9l. in my debt.
MRS. MARSHALL re-examined. I am a laundress. I did not wash Mrs. cheeseman's clothes for having my fortune told—I did wash for her while she was confined.
Prisoner to SUSANNA LEESON. Q. Did not you have your fortune told? A. Yes—you asked Mrs. Cheeseman to cut the cards, and she did so.
GUILTY. Aged 39.— Confined Six Months.
Before Mr. Recorder.
WEBB pleaded GUILTY .. Aged 44.— Confined One Year.
MR. W. H. COOKE conducted the Prosecution.
GABRIEL BARTHOLOMEW PAYNE. I am bailiff to Mr. John Scrafton Thompson, of Ilford. On 19th April I counted some sheep of his in a field at Barking—there were seventy-nine at four o'clock that afternoon, and between nine and ten next morning I went to the field, and one was gone—I traced some footmarks into an adjoining fields, and there found marks of blood, where the sheep had been slaughtered—I found the skin there;it was marked "J. S. T."—I knew it to be the skin of the missing sheep—I gave it to Corbyn, the constable—I was present when the butcher afterwards compared some meat with it—the prisoner are strangers to me, but I have seen Webb once or twice.
King. There were two persons looking in at the field; they were had up, to see if we were the persons, and they said we were not. Witness. They could not identify you.
JAMES PARSONS (policeman, K 179.) I was on duty in Mile-end-road, between eleven and twelve o'clock, on Wednesday night, 19th April, and saw the prisoners coming from Ilford towards London, each carrying a large bundle—they were about eight miles from Ilford—I went up and asked King what he had got—he said, "Some clothes and shirts; my mate will satisfy you"—I asked Webb what he had got, and he said some clothes, and they were coming from work—I put my hand on the bundles, and found they contained meat—I laid hold of Webb; King escaped round the turning by Messrs. Charrington's brewery—I could not positively sweat to King's face but his dress and size are the same—I took Webb to the station, opened his bundle, and found it contained about half the carcass of a sheep, quite warm—I afterwards saw the contents of the other bundle; it was about the
half of the carcass of a sheep—I saw a butcher fit the two halves to a skin produced by Corbyn, and they exactly fitted, and formed one animal—there were two pieces of wool on one of the shoulders, and they fitted to two holes in the skin.
MARY BARTRUP. I live near Bow. On Wednesday night, 19th April, about ten minutes after twelve o'clock, I was in the Mile-end-road, and saw parsons capture a man with bundle—I saw another man walk away from him towards Charrington's brewery—he had a bundle, which I saw him put in the adjoining premises to Messrs. Charrington's, and he said, "I will have the parcel; take no notice"—I am certain King is that man—there is a gaslight there, and I could see his features—I gave information to the first policeman I met.
King. She said before the Magistrate that she did not know whether I was the person or not. Witness. I did not—I am certain you ate the person.
ROBERT EDWARDS (policeman, K 311.) I was on duty in Mile-end-road, on Wednesday night, 19th April, and in consequence of what Bartrup told me I went to Messrs. Charrington's premises, and there found an bundle containing part of a sheep, quite warm, with a strap round it, which I gave to Smith—I afterwards saw the meat fitted to the skin, and it exactly matched.
WILLIAM SMITH (policeman, K 220.) I took King into custody on the morning of 27th April—I told him the charge—he said he knew nothing about it; he would go with me anywhere; he was at home all that week, and the people in the house knew it; he had not been out one night since last harvest—I produce a strap, which I got from Edwards.
MARY WRIGHT. I live at Playhouse-yard, Whitecross-street. In April last King lodged at my house—I know this strap to be his; I mended it for him two years ago; here is my work—he carried it about with him—I lived with him for four years—on 19th April he went out about half-past nine o'clock in the morning, and came home about half-past eleven at night.
THOMAS MOMFORD. I am a butcher. On 20th April I attended at Ilford, when a sheep skin was shown me by parsons, and it fitted—all the mutton that was produced meat produced by Parsons, and it fitted—all the mutton that was produced formed one carcass—it was not cut in a butcher-like way.
King's Defence. Smith, the policeman, told Mary Wright that she would be well paid for her trouble; he put her into an omnibus, and said, "Never mind him."
King. Q. Did not you say to me, "If ever I have the pleasure of taking you again, I will give you a fine lift?" A. No, nothing of the sort.
KING— GUILTY. Aged 44.— Confined One Year.
GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Three Months.
GEORGE ROGERS. I am shopman to John Badcock, of Stratford. On Saturday night, 8th April, I saw the prisoner take 7lbs. of ham, worth 4s., it has not been found—I am lame, and could not overtake him—he had as opportunity of getting rid of it—he was taken in ten minutes.
Prisoner. I did not; I said, "What for?"
GUILTY. † Aged 36.— Confined One Month.
ROBERT BLAIR. I am an omnibus-driver. I had a small parcel to be left at Stratford—I placed it on my omnibus roof—the prisoner got up at White chapel, and got down at the Green Man—I missed the parcel, and suspecting him went to his house, at twenty minutes past eight o'clock in the eveningthe wrapper was found there—he denied taking it—I said if he did not give it up I would fetch the police—I went for the police and the parcel was delivered me in a different shape by a boy—I went back, and the prisoner's wife said she had sent the parcel after me by her son—the prisoner said, "it is only a waistcoat-piece."
RICHARD JACQUES (policeman, K 71.) I went with Blair to the prisoner's—he was up stairs—I said he had better come down, and account for the parcel—he came down, and said he had sent the boy after it—he said he opened it, and found it was only a waistcoat-piece—I found the wrapper in the table-drawer.
GUILTY. Aged 48.— Confined Four Months.
CHARLES PEDGRIFT. I live at Florence-terrace, Bermonday. Last Saturday, 13th May, I was at work at some new building at West Ham—the prisoner was there—I missed a pair of shoes from my tool-basket, and enquired if any one had been playing tricks with them—they all said "No"—I went after the prisoner, and overtook him with a bundle under his left arm—he then changed it to the right arm, and put it under his coat—I said, "I think you have got something here belonging to me"—he said, "If your boots are in my bundle, I do not know who put them there"—he had just left his work, and was returning towards town—it was the right time to go—I found these boots (produced) in the bundle; also a jacket, and a carpenter's apron—I gave him in charge.
WILLIAM STORRY (policeman.) I received the prisoner in charge about six o'clock, for stealing a pair of boots—he said he knew nothing of them; some one must have put them into his bundle for 3 lark—these are them.
Prisoner's Defence. They must have been put into my bundle.
GUILTY. Aged 25.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Fourteen Days.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant.
ANN CRANE. I am the wife of James Crane, of Stratford, and sell shoes and other things. The prisoner came to my shop on 7th April with another man, who bought a pair of boots—when they left I came to the door and missed a pair of boots which had been hanging outside—I followed the prisoner and asked if he had taken a pair—he said "No"—I felt under his cost and said, "There is a boot or a shoe"—he said, "Not of your's"—I said, "Allow me to look at them"—he took one of these boots from his right-hand pocket, and the other from his left—they are my husband's—these are them—(produced)—I had seen them safe about ten minutes before—there were three pairs on the string and when I came out there were only two pairs.
Prisoner. Q. Did you not tell the inspector that you could not tell how long before you had seen them? A. No.
Prisoner's Defence. I bought them of a man in the street, at Limehouse, that afternoon.
GUILTY. Aged 21.— Confined Nine Months.
FREEMAN WEBSTER. I am a coal-porter in the employ of Mr. Charles William Tanner, of Stratford. On 12th April, about a quarter before nine o'clock, I went out of a public-house to see if it rained—I saw Read come out of my master's shed with a bag on his shoulder—I turned into the public-house again, and looked through the window—he took them to Thorne's, to sell—the girl said her mother was not at home, and they would not buy them—he went back to the shed again—I followed him, and saw him and Revell in the shed filling the bag fuller with coals—I turned out of the shed, and sent for two more young men to come down—the prisoners heard them running along, and they went and hid themselves in the corner—I went in and took them both—these coals were removed from the bulk into the sack—they had left the sack on the bulk.
Read. I was standing with the bag under my arm. Witness. You were on your knees, and were filling the bag fuller, and so was Revell.
READ— GUILTY. Aged 18.— Confined Three Months.
REVELL— GUILTY. Aged 18.— Confined Six Months.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant.
MESSRS. BODKIN and DAWSON conducted the Prosecution.
SARAH FRENCH. I am the wife of Benjamin French, who keeps the Swan, at Woolwich. On 9th May, about sic o'clock in the evening, the prisoners came—Ploughman asked for a pint of porter, and said he must change half-a-cronw—he gave me one, I gave him 2s. 4d. in change, and they went away—I put the half-crown into my pocket, where I had no other—Gladwin came in afterwards, and I took it from my pocket and gave it to Gladwin.
Ploughman. Q. Are you quite sure Robinson was with me? A. Yes.
WILLIAM GLADWIN (policeman, R 122). I was on duty—I saw the two prisoners and watched them—they went to Mr. French's, and I went in and received this half-crown—I continued to follow them—they went towards the Duke of Sussex—I there lost sight of them—at a quarter before eight o'clock I saw them again, coming out of the Coopers' Arms—I took them to the station—I told Robinson what it was for—he said, "I passed no bad money"—I found on him six sixpences, five shillings, a fourpenny-piece, and 6 1/2d. in copper, all good.
JANE WHITING. I live at the Duke of Sussex. On 9th May, about a quarter before seven o'clock in the evening, the prisoners came in—Ploughman asked for a pint of porter and put down a bad half-crown—I gave it is the waiter, who bent it—I came back and told Ploughman I was bad—he said he was very sorry, he took it for a good one—he held out his hand to take it back—I said, "I shall not give it up but in presence of a policeman"—Ploughman said he knew who he took it of, and he could get a good one for it—I said if he brought the person he took it of, and a policeman, I would give it him back—Robinson then gave the 1 1/2d. and Ploughman a 1/2d. for the beer, and they went away—I marked the half-crown, wrapped it in paper, and kept it in my pocket—I gave it to Thompson—I had no other half-crown.
HARRIET MARY KINGSTON. I am barmaid at the Coopers' Arms. On the evening of 9th May the prisoners came for a pint of porter—they paid me with 2d.—Ploughman then went to the door and came back—they then called for half-a-quartern o gin—I served them—Robinson gave me a half-crown—I put it into the till where there were two others—I noticed that it was very white—I gave him 2s. 4d. change—they drank half of their gin and went away—directly afterwards a woman came in and told me something—I went to the till and found the half-crown I had put in there—I knew it again by its whiteness—I took it out and gave it to the officer.
Ploughman. When this witness came to identify me she pointed out another man instead of Robinson. Witness. Yes I did, but it was dark—I am sure Robinson is the man who gave me the half-crown.
Ploughman's Defence. I had been selling braces. I did not know the half-crowns were bad.
PLOUGHMAN— GUILTY. Aged 19.
ROBINSON— GUILTY. Aged 32.
Confined Six Months.
WILLIAM WEAVING. I lodge in Church-street, Greenwich. I was walking up Greenwich on 23rd April, about four o'clock in the day—the prisoner came, out his hand to my waistcoat pocket, and took my watch out—it had a gold seal and key attached to it—when he snatched it it fell on the ground—I saw him drop it, and found it there—this is it—(produced.)
WILLIAM STEERS. I was at Greernwich fair. I saw the prisoner place his arm over the prosecutor's shoulder, and lar hold of his watch-chain—the watch was in the pocket—I saw the chain in the prisoner's hand.
Prisoner. Q. Was I behind the man? A. At the side of him—I am positive it was you.
GEORGE RICHARDS. I was at Greenwich fair on Easter Sunday. I saw the prosecutor turn and accuse the prisoner of stealing his watch—the prisoner denied it, and tried to back away from him—the policeman caught him by the collar, and the prisoner dropped the watch.
Prisoner. He first said he saw me drop the watch, and when the Magistrate asked him if he were watching my hands he said no. Witness. I said I saw it fall from his hand—the Magistrate said, "Did you see his hand?"—I said, "No, but it could not come from any one else"—there was no crowd just at that moment—it fell on your left side.
GUILTY. Aged 24.— Transported for Seven Years.
SARAH FLOYD. I keep a shop at Greenwich. On 12th March I was sitting in my parlour—I heard some one in my shop—I looked, and saw the prisoner with a basket—I took it from him, and found in it a leg and loin of mutton of mine—he had not paid me for it, and he had no business with it.
Prisoner. I never was in the shop at all. Witness. I took the basket and mutton from him, and sent the shopman after him—I am sure he is the man.
WILLIAM CHAPMAN. I am foreman to Mrs. Floyd. I heard a cry of "Stop thief!"—I saw the prisoner about 200 yards from the shop—I followed, and caught him—I brought him back, and gave him the basket and let him go, as there was no policeman about.
Prisoner. I was very bad at home. Witness. I saw him backwards and forwards by the shop three of four nights before.
WILLIAM WELDON (policeman, R 40.) I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction at this Court—(read—Convicted 9th May, 1842, confined three months)—he is the man—he has been summarily convicted since.
GUILTY.*† Aged 37.— Transported for Seven Years.
Before Mr. Recorder.
FREDERICK DANIEL SUTHERLAND. I am pay-sergeant in the Royal Marines—I liv in Catharine-cottage, Henry-street, Woolwich. I had a waistcoat, scarf, and handkerchief on 29th March—the prisoner was taken about an hour and a half after the robbery—I was present when he was
searched at the station—this white silk handkerchief, with a yellow border, was found on him—it is mine—this scarf is mine, and this waistcoat.
WILLIAM GLADWIN (policeman R 122.) On the 29th March I saw the prisoner going to Mr. Moore's, a pawnbroker's shop—he offered this waistcoat in pledge—they would not take it in—I asked the prisoner where he got it—he said he bought it at Berwick-on-Tweed about two months ago—they then took the waistcoat, and I let him go; but I afterwards heard of the robbery, and took him again—this is the waistcoat—he had pawned this scarf at another pawnbroker's, who was not bound over.
Prisoner's Defence. They were given me by my brother to pawn.
GUILTY. Aged 16.— Confined Six Months.
(There was another indictment against the prisoner.)
JAMES BOWMAN THORPE. I am shopman to Mr. John Moore, a pawnbroker, in Richard-street, Woolwich. On 28th April the prisoner came to my master's shop, and asked me to show him some watches—I showed him two—he did not like them—I showed him seven in all—he then bought a penknife for 9d.—I left the watches on the counter—while I was turning to get them I saw him putting something into his waistcoat pocket, and saw him take one watch—he then said he would bring me a friend in the evening—he left the shop—I watched him—he got to the corner and then he ran—I went after him, and charged him with stealing the watch—he produced it immediately—I took him back to the shop—he said he did not intend to steal it, but to show it to a friend—he said he would give 20l. if I would let him go—these watched were unredeemed pledges—I found on him these two tickets.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. These were not pawn-tickets but show-tickets for the watches? A. Yes—they have the price on them—he said he should return in the evening and give an answer—I understood him to say about the watches—he did not propose to buy more than one—he was in uniform—I might have taken him in the shop, but I did not suppose he had been a lad employed in the dock-yard—I would have allowed him to take the watch to show his friends—tradesmen there can easily ascertain who a lad is—I thought the prisoner was not what he is—I thought his dress was assumed—if I had known he belonged to the dock-yard I would not have taken him into custody—when I took him, he at once gave me the watch, and said he intended to return with his friends—he was agitated—Mr. Moore was compelled to have this prosecution.
WILLIAM HARDING (policeman, R 78.) I received charge of the prisoner—in the way to the station be said he would give me 5l. to let him go—I found on him a ticket of another watch, and this show-card—he had two penknives on him and 6s, 1d.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
Before Mr. Common Serjeant.
1397. ANDREW PHILIP , stealing a watch-guard and key, value 5l. 10s., the goods of Francis West Salthouse; and 1 pair shoes, 3s., the goods of George Frederick Austin, in a vessel in the Thames; to which he pleaded
GUILTY. Aged 18.— Confined Six Months .
JOHN CARPENTER (policeman, R 84.) I was on duty in Greenwich fair, and watched the prisoner and two other boys go behind a gentleman. The prisoner took this ciagr-case from his pocket, and put it into his trowsers pocket—they went away—I took him immediately, and put my hand into his pocket and took it out—he said he bought it for 9d. of a man in the street—I could not get the gentleman, he was in the crowd.
JOHN DAVIS (City-policeman, 551.) I produce a certificate—(read—Alfred Jones convicted Sept., 1846, of picking pockets, having been before convicted, confined twelve months)—I was present—the prisoner is the person.
GUILTY. Aged 17.— Transported for Seven Years.
JAMES STEPHENS. I am a clothier at Deptford—on Saturday night, 29th April, I missed a coat and pair of trowses, which had been safe, partly outside my window, a quarter or half an hour before—these are the trowsers, (produced)—they are mine—I saw a woman go from the door about that time—she had her back to me.
THOMAS COOK. I am a broker at Old King-street, Deptford. On 1st May, in the afternoon, I was outside my door—the prisoner said, "I have got a coat and pair of trowsers to sell"—I told her to bring them—she never did.
WILLIAM HENRY DARLING. I live in Mill-lane, Deptford—about nine days before I was examined, a woman offered me a coat and pair of trowsers for sale—I would not buy them—I cannot swear to the prisoner.
JOHN CARPENTER (policeman, R 84.) On 3rd May, I received information and went to the prisoner's house in Flood-street, Deptford—I asked her where the coat and trowsers were, which she had offered for sale—she said she had none, and bad not offered any for sale—I searched and found these trowsers concealed in a bureau bedstead which was shut up—she said they had been given to her daughter that morning by some one she did not know.
JOHN ORRICK KENNARD. I am a linen draper, at Broadway, Deptford. This print is my master's, and bears his mark—it is worth 16s.—I never sold it—it had been about a foot inside the door—I do not recollect seeing it since I marked it, which may have been a week before—it was part of a pile of twenty or thirty pieces—I saw it again on 3rd May, about two o'clock, at the station-house.
EDWARD GARDINER (policeman.) About twenty minutes past one o'clock, I was in the Broadway, and saw the prisoner take this print from the stand at Mr. Kennard's door, pout it in his apron and walk off—I overtook him about thirty yards off—I said, "I am rather too sharp for you"—he said. "That you are."
Prisoner's Defence. It had fallen down, I picked it up.
GUILTY. Aged 21.— Confined Six Months.
(The prosecutor did not appear.)
1402. JAMES NICHOLAS and RICHARD ROBERT ELLIS , breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Leigh, at Lewisham, and stealing two watches, 1 milk-pot, 24 spoons, and other articles, value 14l. 13s. 6d., his goods, Nicholas having been before convicted.
MR. PARRY conducted the Prosecution.
ESTHER LEIGH. I am wife of William Leigh, of No. 8, Ordnance-row, Lewisham-lane, in the parish of Lewisham. I keep a greengrocer's shop—on Sunday 20th Feb., about two o'clock. I left home to go to a funeral, leaving my husband at home—I returned at half-past eight, found the door closed and waited for my husband—he came in five or six minutes with the key, and tried to unlock the shop door, but could not—we went to the private door, it was wide open—we went in, and went down the kitchen steps at the back of the house—the kitchen door was wide open, the shutters down, the window open, and the drawers also—I found both bed rooms strewed with linen and other articles, and the landing also—the drawers were all opened and emptied—I missed two silver watches, a silver milk-jug, twenty spoons, a blue and white silk handkerchief, and other articles—these are the watches and handkerchief (produced)—I hemmed this handkerchief with ravelling—it is my husband's.
Cross-examined by MR. BALDWIN. Q. When had you seen it before? A. In the morning—it is nothing unusual to be hemmed with ravel—I lost several others, but had only one like this.
WILLIAM LEIGH. I keep this shop. On 20th Feb., after my wife went out, I went to chapel at half-past six o'clock, with my wife's aunt, who lived in the house—I keep no servant—I locked the shop door and the private door—the kitchen windows were shut—they had never been open since I had the house—when I returned I found my wife at the door, the private door open, and found everything as my wife has described.
ROBERT DIXON. I am assistant to Mr. Perkins, of Battle-bridge, pawnbroker. I produce a silver watch, chain, and key, pledged by Ellis, on 21st Feb., about one o'clock, for 30s.—he gave his address No. 5, Congreve-street—I asked whose it was—he said it was his brother's.
JEREMIAH LOCKERBY (policeman, S 180.) On 25th March, at night, I took Ellis, in Somers-town. I said I took him respecting a bit of beef—(that had nothing to do with this charge)—he said he had been to the station and made that all right—I took him to the station, and said I wanted him on suspicion of a robbery at Greenwich, on the night of 20th Feb.—he hesitated, burst out crying, and said, "You know I did not do it, but I won't suffer for anybody else"—on 9th May, I went to the House of Correction, and took Nicholas on his being discharged from gaol—he had been there two months—I said I wanted him on suspicion of a robbery at Greenwich, on 20th Feb.—he said, "I never was at Greenwich in my life"—he had three handkerchiefs in his hand—my brother officer took them from him—he said, "Those are my handkerchiefs, let me have one to put on, and took the one produced, and put it into his pocket—I said, "You shan't have it at all"—he became rusty, and would not go—I gave it to my brother officer—he said, "Those three handkerchiefs are all mine," and he said so again going to the police-court.
JOHN DEAR (policeman..) I was with Lockerby. Nicholas selected the blue and white handkerchief to put on—he had been committed on 10th March—Ii took him there—I was present on Saturday night, 27th March, when Ellis was taken—when he was in the cell at Greenwich, on the Monday, he said, "I will not suffer for other people, I will tell the truth; I
had it from Chandler; I know where it came from, it came from Greenwich"—Chandler was tried here last sessions.
Ellis. Chandler asked me to sell it, and I gave him the money.
GEORGE JAMES STEERS. I am an officer of the House of Correction. I received this handkerchief with two others, from Nicholas on 11th March—he had come in on the 10th—they were given up to him when he went out.
JOHN CARPENTER (policeman, R 84.) On Sunday, 20th Feb., I was at the Greenwich terminus, in plain clothes, watching persons who came down from London—Nicholas came down about five o'clock in the afternoon—I have no doubt of him—I had seen him before—Chandler was with him—I did not see Ellis—I followed them up South-street, which is not half a quarter of a mile from Mr. Leigh's—they went in that direction—one of them, I cannot say which, had this silk umbrella under his arm, or one exactly like it—I believe this to be it—it was given to me.
Cross-examined. Q. How many persons came down? A. 150, or more—I saw the umbrella when they came towards me—they passed me, and I went out of the station behind them, went before them again, walked to the corner of the street, and let them pass me again.
GEORGE BARNARD LIMBREY. I am a baker, at Lewisham-road. On the morning after the robbery I found this umbrella in a passage, at the back of my master's premises, which adjoin Mr. Leigh's—it would lead to the back of Mr. Leigh's house, to the kitchen—there are two houses between.
PAUL PRITCHARD. (policeman.) This signature to these depositions is Mr. Jeremy's—I was present ar the police-office, and heard the prisoners make a statement, which was taken down—(read—"Nicholas says, 'I am innocent, I was never in Greenwich in my life till I was brought here;' Ellis says, 'On 21st Jan. I was at Battle-bridge; a man named Chandler came up and asked me to have a glass of ale, when I had drank it he asked me to go and pledge the watch, which I did, and gave him the money; I know nothing of Nicholas.' ")
MR. PARRY here withdraw from the prosecution against ELLIS, who was ACQUITTED.
NICHOLAS— GUILTY. Aged 20.— Transported for Seven Years.
SARAH EVANS. I am a beer-seller, at Blackheath. The prisoner was formerly my potman—he used to look in from time to time—he was in distress, and I gave him a night's lodging—I had a large chest of tools belonging to my late husband—on 11th April I missed the greater par of them—I identify these produced—they are worth 4l.—the most valuable ones are still missing—some of them have my husband's name on them.
Prisoner. I received the planes nd two saws of a person who loves with Mrs. Evans now; I bought the others at the White Horse turnpike.
WILLIAM MARNOLL. On 11th April, about a quarter to seven o'clock in the morning, I saw the prisoner and another man in the tap-room—I afterwards saw him come with a bundle, in a direction from the kitchen—he had a plane, a saw, and a centre-bit, in his hand—I thought they were his own—my
mistress had not come down—I afterwards told her what I had seen—I did not sell or give him any tools.
Prisoner. Did not you take them? A. No.
JOSEPH PICKUP. I am a labourer. On 11th April I was in a public-house in the Greenwich-road—the prisoner came in with a plane and saw, and another tool, and offered them for sale, as he wanted some money to go to Sydenham—I bought the plane—I afterwards gave it up, hearing he was in custody.
JOSEPH GREEN. (policeman. R 315.) On 15th April I searched the prisoner's box, which was pointed out to me by Luddington, and found a square, three chisels, and a centre-bit—I received a basket of tools from Sarah Roberts, at Limehouse.
SARAH ROBERTS. I live at Twigg's-place, Limehouse. On 13th April the prisoner came to my house with a basket of tools, and asked if he might leave them there—he was to call for them as he came back—I gave them up to Green.
GUILTY. Aged 23.— Confined One Year.
JOHN WHITE (policeman, R 180.) On 28th April I saw the prisoners together at Greenwich—I watched them half an hour—they both closed in behind the prosecutor—Pink took this handkerchief from his pocket—Box covered him—I took them to the station—Box said nothing—Pink said he knew nothing about it—I found this handkerchief between the legs of Box's trowsers.
Box's Defence. I saw the handkerchief being chucked about, and picked it up.
PINK— GUILTY. Aged 17.
BOX— GUILTY. Aged 17.
Confined Six Months.
ELIZABETH FANCHON. I am single, and live with my father, Friend Fanchon, of the Unicorn, Horseferry-road, Greenwich. On the evening of 1st May I was in the bar-parlour, and heard a stumble at the cellar-stairs, at the end of the passage—I found the prisoner in the coal-cellar—I called out, "Who is there?"—he said, "Me, for a shovel of coals"—I heard a bottle break—he ran up stairs, and ran out—I saw a bottle on the stairs, and another in some sawdust—he had no coal-scuttle or shovel—coals were not wanted anywhere—he frequented the tap-room—the coal-cellar lock was forced—I missed seven bottled of sherry, and I found a broken bottle in the cellar.
FRIEND FANCHON. The prisoner used my tap—on 1st May I went with my daughter to the coal-cellar, which leads to the spirit-cellar, and missed seven bottled of sherry, which were safe there in the forenoon—I found a poker in the cellar, which had been in the kitchen—it had been used to break the hasp of the padlock—I found two bottles of sherry, and one broken one—I found the prisoner at his father's.
Before Mr. Justice coltman
MR. PARNELL conducted in the Prosecution.
ZACHARIAH SUTTON. I am a private in the Royal Marines, at Woolwich The prisoner was a private in the same company. On 11th March, about half-past seven o'clock in the morning, I went into the kitchen to dry my towel, and he accused me of having taken his stock and handkerchief, which he had lost—I denied it, and said I had not seen them—he directly struck me with his fist—I struck him again—there was a blow or two between us, and he took up a knife which was lying on the dresser and stabbed at me three or four times at the bosom—it did not wound me—it was blunt—a young man took it away from him—the prisoner then made a rush at me, and we fell, I undermost—he knelt on my breast, took a uniform knife and stabbed me in several places on my head and face—the knife is not here, but here is one of the same sort—(produced)—each man in the company has one severed out to him—I lost a good deal of blood—I was taken to the hospital, and was there six weeks.
Prisoner. He came behind me and struck me in the ear; I had the knife in my hand, and just struck him across the nose with the handle of it; he fell against the dresser, and the dishes fell and cut him; his evidence is a spite for reporting him to the sergeant of the guard, for stealing some money from an Irishman. Witness. I did not see whether the knife was open or shut—I did not fall against any dishes.
THOMAS MANNING. I am a private in the marines. I heard the prisoner accuse Sutton of stealing his stock and handkerchief—Sutton denied it, and the prisoner immediately, struck him with his fist—he had nothing in his hand then—they struggled, and the prisoner seized a knife from the dresser, caught Sutton round the waist, and tried to stab him in the bowels several times—my fellow-cook took the knife out of his hand in a moment or two—the prisoner rushed at Sutton again, and took a uniform knife from his trowserspocket—they both fell, Sutton being undermost—the prisoner knelt on Sutton's breast, and kept jobbing him on the head and face with the knife—it was shut—Sutton bled so that he could not see—I helped to take him away—I told the prisoner he had a knife in his hand—he made no answer, but tried to put it into his pocket—I caught hold of it and took it away from him.
Prisoner. Q. How did it begin? A. Sutton came in to dry his towel, and you said he had stolen your stock and handkerchief—you did not accuse me of stealing them; you asked if I had seen them, and I said, "No"—You asked all the men in the kitchen—I did not strike you—I am certain you struck Sutton first.
THOMAS NELSON. I am assistant-surgeon at the Royal Marine Hospital, Woolwich. Sutton was bought there, bleeding from two trifling wounds in the head—they might either have been produced by a fall, or by coming in contact with anything sharp—the edges of such a knife as that produced would very likely produce them.
(The prisoner, in a written defence, repeated his former account of the matter.)
GUILTY of an Assault. Aged 20.— Confined One Month
Before Mr. Baron Alderson.
1407. JAMES CONNOR, ANN CONNOR , and HANNAH CAVENAE , for a robbery on Richard Dyer, and stealing from his person 2 half-crowns, 12 shillings, and 6 sixpences, his moneys; and beating, striking, and using other personal violence to him.
MR. THOMPSON conducted the Prosecution.
RICHARD DYER. I am an engine-driver, in the service of the London and Brighton Railway Company, and reside at 2, Grenfell-street, Lower Deptfort. On Saturday night, 9th April, about half-past twelve o'clock, I was at the top of the Creek-road, in Church-street, Deptford, and met the two female prisoners—they stopped me at the corner of Flagon-row, and said something, but I do not know what—James Connor knocked me down and fell over me—I had never seen either of them before, but it was right under a gas-lamp—I saw their faces—he never got out of my hands till I gave him up t Joiner to hold—while I had hold of him about 30s. or 2l. fell from me, chiefly in shillings—that was not while I was down, but after I rose up again a second time—we took the three prisoners to the bottom of Union-street, and gave them in custody to three policemen—the money fell out of my pocket, and the women picked it al up—the male prisoner did not have a farthing—it fell out on the kerb—I was struggling with them at the time—I cannot swear whether the money was knocked out or taken out of my pocket—I felt a sort of rub down, as if somebody was foreing their hand into my pocket—I did not see it again—the pocket was very deep—it was my left trowsers-pocket—one of the females came and put her foot on my face while I was down, took hold of my hair, and said, "Will you let him go?"—my eye was dreadfully cut with the blow I received.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. You were not sober, were you? A. Not quite—I could take care of myself—I had not spoken to the women—one of them afterwards complained to some one that I had kicked her—that was not the fact—I staid away from the Magistrate on the second hearing, because I was forced to—I was booked out to go to Brighton that morning, and could not attend without losing my situation—I received 1l. to be as stolen—I do not know who gave it me—I suppose it was a friend of the prisoner's—I did not go before the Magistrate till I was summoned—I meant to go, but I was sent to Brighton with the nine o'clock train, in the morning—I had been at the Duke of Cornwall on this night—I left there at twelve—me and my friends had three sixpennyworths of rum and a quartern of gin among the three of us—I did not have beer besides, that I am aware of—if I was to say I had not had any beer this morning, I should tell a falsehood—I have not been drinking—I am not in liquor—what I have had is no business of yours—I have had three half-pints of porter and half-a-quartern of gin this morning—I might have had more or less—I swear I had not had any words with these women and kicked them—I was not quite sober.
JAMES JOINER. I am an engine-cleaner, in the service of the Brighton Railway Company. On Saturday night, 9th April, about half-past twelve o'clock, I was with Dyer—I had occasion to leave him for a short period, and heard him calling "Jem!"—I went up and saw Connor struggling with him to get away—the female prisoners were both there—Dyer was standing up, and the females were trying to get James Connor from him—there was a mob of about eight or a dozen people—I asked what was the matter—Dyer said
he had been robbed—I said, "Well then, let us lock them up; that is all you can do," and I took hold of the male prisoner and held him till I gave him as the policeman—one female followed us on the other side, and the other remained behind—I did not hear or see any money—all that Connor said was, "Take him away from me; I will go anywhere with you, rather than he should punish me"—Dyer would have torn him to pieces, he is a great deal the stronger man.
Cross-examined. Q. You were talking to some one round the corner, were you not? A. I was bidding a young man good night—I did not see the beginning of the tussle.
JOSEPH TAYLOR. I am an ironmoulder, at No. 7, Duke's-place, Creek-street, Deptford. I was going home on this night, and saw Dyer—the female prisoners met him, and the male prisoner came from the corner of Union-street, and struck Dyer on the eye—he fell down on the pavement, and the prisoner over him—I went to his assistance as soon as possible—Ann Connor asked me if I was the father of a family—I said I was—she said, I will show you where he has been kicking me, and went to pull up her clothes—I said it was impossible, there was not blows struck by the prosecutor—two or three men and women came up—there was a deal of scrambling—I saw no money—the two females were scrambling on the ground, and picking up something—Dyer had got hold of the male prisoner—he never loosed him from the time he knocked him down—I followed them till they were in custody.
Cross-examied. Q. Had you been drinking? A. No—there were two or three people besides them picking up—I know both the prisoners were there
Cross-examined. Q. Did not he say he had not insulted any one, but he would have Dyer detained for an assault? A. Yes—Ann Connor followed to the station—I am not aware that she is any relation of his—the male prisoner's mother says she is not his sister—she did not in my hearing say she had been kicked.
(James Connor received a good character.)
JAMES CONNOR— GUILTY. Aged 18. Confined Nine Months.
ANN CONNOR— GUILTY. Aged 21.
HANNAH CAVENAH— GUILTY. Aged 18.
Confined Twelve Months.
Before Mr. Recorder.
GEORGE COURT STEEL. I am a market-gardener. On 18th April, I was in my garden, which adjoins the Surrey canal bridge, at Deptford—I was about thirty yards from the canal—I saw the prisoner on the bridge with a child in her arms, folded in a shawl—I watched her for half or three—quarters of an hour—she walked about on the bridge—some showers came on and she went under the railroad arches once or twice out of the rain—I heard a man cry out, "There is a woman in the water"—I directly went to assist, and saw the prisoner in the water—she was off her feet, lying on her face, and the child was underneath—she did not move hand or foot, only her head—the water there is never less than six feet deep, and sometimes it is about eight—a rope was thrown by a man named Moore, and she was pulled out by about half a dozen people on a barge—she laid for a minute and a half or two minutes before she was lifted up, and the child was lifted from her—they were both taken out at the same time—when she recovered she asked where the child was—I
did not see anything peculiar about her when she was on the bridge, but I was rather doubtful of what was going to happen—I thought she had no busness there with the child that wet morning.
JAMES SARTAIN (policeman, R 4.) I saw the child at a surgeon's, wrapped in a blanket. I went after the prisoner as she was going home, and told her she was charged with throwing herself and the baby into the canal, and she must go with me to the station-house—in going there she said she did it in consequence of having words with her mother-in-law—there was a barge passing at the time, and three or four people assisted in getting her out.
SARAH EVELEIGH. I am the wife of John Eveleigh, a policeman, and live at the station-house in the Blackheath-road. On 18th April the prisoner was brought there—I took off her things—they were very wet indeed—she had this shawl under her arm—it was very wet—she said that was the shawl she wrapped the child in, and I was to take care of it—she said she tied it to her apron and jumped in, and it was through her mother-in-law upbraiding her with it so many times she was quite tired of her life—she thought the best thing she could do was to get rid of herself and the child at once—I afterwards saw the child—it was from ten weeks to three months old—this is the child.
ELIZABETH BURFORD. I am the wife of John Burford, a labourer, of New-street, Deptoford. The prisoner is his daughter—on the morning of 18th April I had some words with her—I always brought the baby up by hand, and when it misses me it cries after me—I asked the prisoner to cover it over, and she walked away from the bed-side, pulling off the things, and uncovered him again—I pulled her away, and told her not to uncover him—she made use of a very bad expression and struck me—I struck her again—she struck me two or three times, and I her—I never reproached her for having the baby—I have always been kind to it—the child went by the name of William John Burford—we were very much distressed at this time, and had no victuals—we have got up and gone to bed without having anything—I have always done all that I could for her and the infant—she was in distress as well as me—we had not had a bit of fire or breakfast that morning—she had sold the baby's basket the night before for 4d. to get a loaf and some sugar—we cannot get relief from the parish as it is not my husband's parish—after I married him he fell from a waggon in Farringdon Market, and was bad for a long time—Mr. East, a publican, in the Old Kent Road, with whom the prisoner used to live, will take her back into his service—the child's father has sent money as far as it lies in his power, but bringing up the child by hand is so expensive, it costs 3s. 6d. a week for milk—we could not starve the infant if we starved ourselves—the prisoner was very attentive to the child—she did not suckle it as she had no milk, owing to a fever that she had.
GEORGE COURT STEEL (re-examined). The prisoner had been sitting very near the water on some stone work—there is no bank, it goes straight down—she did not appear insensible when she was taken out, she spoke in about tw minutes, and asked where the child was—she never went under the water at all, owing to her clothes and the child being underneath her—she kept fast hold of the child in the water.
Prisoner's Defence. I was nearly starved; all my clothes were gone; we only had a pennyworth of potatoes that day.
(HERBERT JONES, a juror, deposed to the prisoner's good character.)
(There was another indictment against the prisoner, for attempting to drown herself, upon which no evidence was offered.)
Before Mr. Recorder.
GUILTY . Aged 13. Confined Three Months and Whipped.
GUILTY . Aged 16.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Fourteen Days.
GUILTY . Aged 20.**— Confined One Year.
GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Fourteen Days.
GUILTY . Aged 42.— Confined Three Months.
Before Mr. Baron Alderson.
GUILTY. Aged 20.— Transported for Ten Years.
Before Mr. Justice Coltman.
MR. ROBINSON conducted the Prosecution.
JAMES ROBERTSON. I am a millwright, I lived at the prisoner's aunt's, 6, Burton-street, Walworth. On Sunday, 23rd April, the prisoner came to my window and tried to get in—he said I was a government man, and said, "I belong to O'Connor, and O'Connor will be hung and I too"—I told him to go—he went away—in about ten minutes I went out for some milk with a jug, leaving my wife in the room—as soon as I got out the prisoner rashed at me and struck me with a piece of chair, three or four inches thick—my wife came out—he shut the door, leaving me outside—I heard my wife scream—there had been no quarrel between my wife and me—there was between her and the prisoner.
SARAH ROBERTSON. I am the wife of the last witness. The prisoner came to the window and threatened my husband—he went out for some milk and locked the door, and I saw the prisoner in the middle of the street heating him with a stick—I unlocked the door and went out to protect him—the prisoner came and shut the door, leaving me in the passage with him, and my husband outside—he pushed me down, walked over me, and struck me with a stick on the top of my head—it bled very much—I put my hand out to save my head, and received the next blow on my hand, here is the mark—a third blow came on my arm—I was down—I saw the stick
raised over my head, and begged for mercy—he said, "Will you go into your own room?"—I said, "Yes"—I went in, jumped out of the window, and called "Police!"—he did not follow me—I think he went into his own room—there had been no material difference between my husband and him—he called me very bad names—I have been informed that he has been in a lunatic asylum.
HENRY PORLE (policeman, P 76). Mrs. Robertson fetched me—I went with her—she was bleeding—I traced blood from the door nearly to the top of the street—I told the prisoner he must go to the station—he said he did not commit the assault, it must have been done in the confusion—I do not know what he meant by that.
Prisoner. It is not true.
ENCOH DAWSON HOWITT. I am a surgeon of East-street, Walworth. I examined Sarah Robertson on the evening of 24th April—she had several blows and bruises on the head and arms—she had bled from two or three wounds on the head—drops of blood were on her dress—this piece of wood would inflict the wounds.
Prisoner. Q. Do you think there is anything the matter with me? A. I have never attended you.
GUILTY of an Assault— Confined Two Months.
Before Mr. Common Serjeant.
GUILTY . Aged 26.— Transported for Ten Years.
THOMAS HAWKINS. I am a carpenter, at Boddy-bridge, Upper Ground-street. On 8th May, about half-past twelve o'clock at night, I was in Mint-street, Borough; I was attacked by three men—the prisoner was one—he and another one collared me—one of them took 22s. from my waistcoat-pocket—I was not sober, or drunk—I had had a drop extra—I lost my hat, and my handkerchief was off—I said, "You vagabonds, you are not satisfied with taking my money but must take my hat"—a policeman came up immediately.
ROBERT BRANTFORD (policeman.) I was o duty, and heard Hawkins say, "You vagabonds, you have got my hat"—I saw the prisoner and two others collaring him against the wall—the prisoner took his hand from Hawkin's right waistcoat-pocket—they all three went away together—I pursued them; a severe struggle ensued—I took the prisoner—I found nothing on him—I am sure he is one of them—I know by sight.
Prisoner's Defence. I never took the money, and never saw the man.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY.*† Aged 22.— Transported for Ten Years.
MR. COOPER conducted the Prosecution.
EDWARD BARTON. I am a greengrocer, at Camberwell. On the 8th April I and some my house with a horse and cart, and left them at Compter-street, Borough-market; I went backwards and forwards, and the third time I found they were gone—My name was a board nailed on the right-hand side—I received information, and it at the green-yard with everything in it—the name was pulled off—the horse was worth 5l. and the cart 3l.—I do not know the prisoner.
HENRY HUNT (policeman, 82M. On the morning of 8th April I saw the prisoner near King-street, Bought, coming in a direction from Computer-street, about a quarter of a mile from it, driving a horse and cart—I took him, and asked where he brought the horse and cart from—he said it was all right, a man told him to drive it down there—he did not offer to show me the man.
Prisoner's Defence. I was hired by a man.
GUILTY.*† Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years.
Before Mr. Recorder.
MATTHIAS LINGFORD. I am werehouseman at 3, Devonshire-place, Old Kent-road. On 26th April, between seven and eight o'clock, I was in the Dover-road, felt a pull at my pocket, and missed my handkerchief—I saw the prisoner, followed him saw him drop it—this is it (produced)—it is mine—I picked it up within ten yards of him—I kept him in sight—he was secured.
ALEXANDER M'KAY (policeman, M 265.) I saw the prisoner running, and Lingford behind him; I stopped him—he said, "What have I done?"—I said "I will see about that directly"—he tried to get away—I received this handkerchief from Lingford.
GUILTY. Aged 19.— Confined One Year.
Before Mr. Justice Coltman.
MR. HUDDLESTON conducted the Prosecution.
HENRY HODGES. I am coal-porter at Vine-srteer, Millbank-street, Westminster. On the 25th April, about half-past five o'clock, I went with three of four persons into the tap-room of the Lord Nelson public-house, Old Kent-road—I went to the fire to light my pipe; the two Murphys were there, and I had to pass them to get to the fire—I did not see Ward—as I was returning from the fire Cornelius his me in the eye with his fist—I had not said or done anything to him—my eye was bunged up from it—I could not see out of it—I fell on the ground, and he kicked me at the side of my head and cut me—Michael was standing by and, as I was trying to get up, struck me a violent blow with a quart pewter pot on the head, which stunned me and cut my
head open—the blood flowed—I laid on the floor some time insensible—I was afterwards taken down to Mr. Howitt, the surgeon—I have been attending Westminster Hospital ever since—I could not see out of either of my eyes, and was terribly bruised about the body.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. How long had you been in the public-house? A. About two minutes—the Murphys were there when I went in—there were four coal-porters there—I did not know the prisoners before—Cornelius was close to the fire—he had not got a pipe—Michael was standing between the settle and the fire-place—I did not say when I went up to the fire, "Get out of this, you Irish b----"—the tap-room was pretty full of people—Cornelius did not say, "Is it to me you are talking?"—I am sure I had done nothing to him before he assaulted me—he was not drunk—Michael did not attempt to drag me away—I had no chance of returning the blow—as soon as I received it I was down, and he kicked me in the head—I did not struggle or scuffle with him—I did not see whether Cornelius attempted to drag Michael away—I have not been able to do any work since—I was in regular employment at the time.
JOSEPH LOOKER. I am a coal-porter, and was with Hodges at the Lord Nelson—I heard a noise near the fire-place, got up and went towards it—I saw Hodges down on the floor, bleeding from the head—I went towards him, and Michael Murphy struck me on the eye and knocked me down on the settle—Ward was there, and held me on one side while Michael beat the about the head—I became insensible for some time—when I came to myself I saw Ward trying to escape out of the door—I caught him, we fell down together outside—I had several scuffles with him outside—I kept him till the police came.
Cross-examined. Q. Had you been drinking with Hodges there? A. Yes—there were four of us—I was quite sober—I had been at work a little that morning, before breakfast—I had had my dinner when this happened—we had not been drinking together all day—I do not know how many beershops we had been into—we had taken nothing but porter—I had a good dinner that day—Ratty was one of my mates—I did not see Cornelius Murphy do anything—I went towards Hodges because I heard the scuffle—there was a regular row in the room, but I did not see much of it.
MR. HUDDLESTONE. Q. Was there any row in the room till you had been struck? A. No, no more than the scuffle.
JAMES RATTY. I am a coal-porter. I was with Looker and Hodges at the Lord Nelson—I saw Hodges get up to light his pipe at the fire—I heard a seuffle, looked round, and he was down on the floor, bleeding from the nose—Cornelius Murphy was there, and I saw him kick Hodges on the head as he lay on the ground—I went towards him, and I was struck on the right side of the head before I could get to help him up—I do not know who by—I was staggering, and then Michael struck me and knocked me quite down—I was kicked—I do not know by whom.
Cross-examined. Q. What had you all been doing all day? A. We had been at work till a little before dinner; it might be about twelve or one o'clock—I dined about one or two—I had nothing but beer—we had been into one beer-shop and one public-house before we went to the Lord Nelson—we had no spirits—we had no rum—we dined at a beer-shop near the Surrey Canal—I think we had bacon.
minutes I saw him lying on the floor, bleeding from both sides of the head—Michael Murphy was near him, and Looker was held by Ward, and Michael was paying him over the table with his fist—I went to render assistance, and Ward struck me with a quart pot on the temple, but my hat saved me—I was knocked down and received a severe kick behind.
Cross-examined. Q. Had you bee at work that day? A. Up to a little before dinner—we had been down the Kent-road, about half-past five went into the Lord Nelson—I had my dinner at home before I started—my three mates did not dine with me—we had two pots of porter at the Lord Nelson—we had no spirits—I was quite sober—I did not hear the prisoners charge Hodges with calling one of them an Irish b----; Michael said so at the station-house—Hodges was sober—the row lasted about ten minutes—there were a great many people—I did not hear a person in the mob say, "If he has done anything wrong give him into custody to the police, but do not ill-use the man."
JAMES WILLIAMS. I am gardener. I was in the tap-room of the Lord Nelson, and saw Hodges get up to light his pipe—he was immediately knocked down by Cornelius Murphy—I did not hear a word spoken—I was near enough to hear if there had been—he was then kicked by Cornelius to the head, and when he endeavoured to get up, Michael struck him with a quart pot on the right side of the head—other coal-porters then went to assist Hodges, and Michael flew at another man's head with a quart pot—at the same time Ward and another man down on the floor—he took a pot off the shelf and threw it under the table—I did not notice more than one in his hand—he said, "Kill them right out; we will clear the house, and all the b----country"—the coal-porters got them out of the door—they wanted to run away, but the coal-porters hung to them till the police came—the prisoners were a little the worse for liquor, but the others were quite sober.
Cross-examined. Q. How long had you been at the public-house? A. About a quarter of an hour before these parties came in—I have not had any work for the last five or six weeks—I have worked for Mr. Bath, at Footscray—I have only been jobbing for the last four or five years—I had only had a pint of beer that day, which a friend gave me—I did not drink with Hodges or his companions—there had been a fiddler in the room half an hour previously—I do not know how long he was there—I did not see any of the men give him him anything to drink—the fiddler wanted to play, and the landlady would not allow him—I was sitting in a box by myself till the coal porters came in—they sat in my box—I did not drink with them—they had two pots of beer—there was a little rum and water fetched for one of their wives, who was in their company—I had never seen them before, or the prisoners—I did not hear a word said by Hodges to Murphy—I was sitting by the door, with my face towards the settle—I never interfered at all.
AMBROSE MOORE (policeman, M 243.) I took Cornelius Murphy into custody—Hodges' face was covered with blood, so that I could not discern his features—Cornelius said he had been insulted, and he would rid the country of them—he was intoxicated—Hodges and the other coal-porters were sober.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you hear any one say, "Why, if the man has been doing wrong give him into custody, but do not ill-use him?" A. No—I took Cornelius Murphy from the coalheavers—they all had hold of him.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you see the coal-porters come on? A. Yes—I did not see them have any rum.
ENOCH DAWSON HOWITT. I am surgeon. I attended Hodges—I found three cuts on the left side of his head, measuring about two inches and a half, and a smaller on on the right side—the scape was cut though—he had bled profusely, and was quite exhausted—a pewter pot might have caused such wounds—there was danger of erysipelas ensuring—it was a wound calculated to do grievous bodily harm.
Cross-examined. Q. Was it a serious wound? A. It was nearly on the top of the head—I might have been produced by failing on the ground from a height, but is is not very likely.
(The prisoners received goods characters.)
GUILTY of an Assault.— Confined One Month each.
Before Mr. Baron Alderson.
1422. HENRY WILLIAM, JOHN DAY , and JOHN WALKER , for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of henry savage at christ church, and stealing 11 spoons, 1 pair of sugar-tongs, 1 pencil-case, and 1lb. weight of cigars, value 4l.; 2400 pence, 4800 halfpence, and 1000 farthings; his property; to which
WALKER* pleaded GUILTY . Aged 30.— Transported for Ten Years.
MR. PLUMPTREE conducted the Prosecution.
HENRY SAVAGE. I am a victualler, and keep the Bear and Ragged-staff, Upper Ground-street, in the parish of christ church, Surrey. On the morning of 4th may I went to bed a little before two o'clock—I was the last up—the doors and windows were all safe and fastened—I was awoke by my sister, who sleeps in the next room, and about four o'clock came down, and found the street-door open—no one was there—the place was in the greatest confusion—the back-parlour window, which the night before was fastened by the hasp, was open—the upper sash was pulled quite down, so that a person could get in at the top—there were no marks of footsteps—the street-door had been opened from the inside—the parlour door was broken open, and the lock taken from the door—I missed 20l. in copper, about 6s. of it was in farthings, from a desk, which was inside the bar—it had been locked, and was forced open—I missed two silver table—spoons, two salt-spoons, a pair of sugar-tongs, seven tea-speens, a silver pencil-case, and a pound of cigars, worth altogether about 25l.—I know Williams and Day sight—they had been in the parlaur the night before, as customers—they came in about eleven—I did not see them leave—there were spots from a wax taper inside the desk.
Cross-examined by MR. PARRY. Q. Was not William your potboy? A. No—I saw him in the house two or three days before—I do not know what time he left on that night—I saw him several times—the last times was near twelve—the prisoners were the last persons in the parlour—there was company upstairs, and a few persons standing about the bar.
WILLIAM ROGERSON. I am the prosecutor's servant. I saw Day and Williams in the tap-room, about half-past twelve o'clock on the day before the robbery—Day said he had helped a man get a horse up on Blackfriarsbridges, and his hands were dirty—he went to the back to wash them—that part faces the parlour, where the windows was found open—from there a person could reach the hasp of the window.
HENRY CUMNER. I am seventeen years old, and am in the service of Mr. Halts, who keeps a coffee-shop at 77, Drury-lane. I know all the prisoners—I saw them at our house together, about a week before 4th May—on 4th May, they came between four and five o'clock in the morning, and had breakfast; tea, coffee, eggs, and bread and butter—Walker asked me in the presence of the others, whether our back parlour was disengaged, as they wanted to settle some business between themselves—I heard Day ask my master whether he would take 5l. or 10l. worth of half-pence—he took 5s., worth—I saw Day produce them—the reckoning came to 1s. 3d. or 1s. 4d.—they paid that in penny pieces, half-pence and about twelve farthings—one of them fetched a cab, and they went out together—Day seemed to have something hid under his coat—his pockets bulged out—before they went, Walker gave me a parcel which I gave to my master—I saw it opened—it contained these six silver spoons (produced) wrapped in a handkerchief—the next morning I found this piece of red wax taper (produced) in the corner under the seat. where they had been sitting.
Cross-examined. Q. How long were at breakfast? A. Twenty minutes—Williams had breakfast with them—he said nothing to me.
ROBERT HALTS. I keep the Eagle coffee-house, Drury-lane. I know the prisoners—they came there between four and five o'clock in the morning of 4th May, and shortly afterwards went away in a cab together—after they were gone, Cumner gave me a parcel, which I opened, and took these spoons from it.
WILLIAMS—GUILTY. Aged 28.— Confined Two Years.
DAY— GUILTY.** Aged 53.— Transported For Ten Years.
Before Mr. Recorder.
MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.
JAMES BREACH. I am in the service of John Ratcliff, of Old Kent-road. At the beginning of March, the prisoner came to our shop, produced a card of Mr. Whitfield's, and asked whether these was any coffee to roast this week—(I gave him the cars back, Mr. Whitfield is in the habit of roasting coffee for us)—I said there was—he said he was going over to Peekham, and would call for it in a quarter of an hour, which he did, and two bags of coffee were given him, one containing half a hundred weight, and the other a quarter—I believed him to be sent by Mr. Whitfield, and delivered him the coffee to be roasted and returned—he never came back.
Prisoner. I know nothing about it; I never had the coffee, Witness. I am certain he is the man—I saw him again that day week, and know him directly.
JAMES WHITFIELD. I live in Blackman-street, Borough, and roast coffee, I was in the habit of doing so for Mr. Ratcliff—I know nothing of the prisoner, and never sent him with one of my cards to get this coffee—this is one of my cards.
Prisoner's Defence. I know nothing of them; how could I get the card.
GUILTY. Aged 25.— Confined Eighteen Months.
MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.
STEPHEN GARDINER. I am in the employment of George Winter and another, ironmongers, of 1, Bank-end, Southwark. I had a customer of the name of Clark, of Newington. Anout three o'clock in the afternoon of 1st April, a person, who I thought was the witness Blackford, came to the warehouse and presented me this order, (produced), in consequence of which I delivered him three dozen 16th-inch bastard files, and three dozen 4 1/2 inch hand saw-files—they are worth 24s. a dozen—the order purports to come from a Mr. Turner—I asked the person who brought it if he came from Mr. Turner—he said, "Yes"—I gave the person the goods, and in consequence of something that had happened at our house before, I followed the person to Southwark Bridge-road, from there to Lombard-street, and into Mint-street, Borough—he there went into a beer-shop, and I lost sight of him—about nine the same evening I went with three policeman into Mint-street, saw Blackford, and gave him into custody.
THOMAS CHURCH WILLANS. I live in Tooley-street, and am in the prepared barley and groats trade. Malme was in our service three or four different times—his wife washed for me—I am not certain that he made out the bills, but he told me he put the figures to them—I have seen him write several times—I believe this paper is his writing.
Malme. I never had occasion to write; I went out with the horse and cart; the bills were always given to me receipted, and he told me if the parties did not pay I was to tear the receipts off and bring them back. Witness. I swear I have seen him write several times—he often had to receipt bills—I have seen him write when he has had nothing to do, while minding the shop—he was three or four years with me the first time.
CHARLES WILD. I live in Mint-street, Borough, and know Malme. On 30th March he came to our house, and said he had three dozen of 16-inch files to sell—he did not produce them—he said he only wanted 8s. a dozen for them—Harrington stood at a post outside, and they went away together—Malme said he had taken them for a bad debt, and he wished to get rid of them, because he wanted money—we said it was no use, we did not purchase anything in that way at that price—on Friday night Taylor pointed him out to me, standing by himself—Harrington was waiting by the pump opposite—I went up to Malme, and said, "Are you not a pretty fellow, to come and offer me files for sale that you knew were stolen?"—he looked at me and said, "Who are you? what are you?"—I said, "You came to my house"—he said, "Well, I know now; you are young Wild"—I said, "Four are committed for trial; if you do not get out of the way, you will be taken too"—he said, "Well, I am much obliged to you, and am very sorry for poor Oliver," (Blackford is called Oliver,) "because I can prove him innocent"—he said he knew if he was not taken for that, he would be for something else—I could not see a policeman handy, and took him to have a pot of beer—I got talking to him, and said, "Why do not you go to Blackford, and see if
you can settle it with him"—he said, "If you can tell how, I will"—I said, "Go and tell him you will come up on the day of trial," or something of that—he said he did not settle it in that way—I said, "If you wrote the orders, you are not obliged to tell them so"—he said, "I did not write the orders, but I fetched the files myself"—I went out, fetched a policeman, and gave him into custody—when he was taken he said, "You have done a b----fine thing for me"—one of Mr. Winter's clerks charged him, and he was locked up.
THOMAS TAYLOR. In March last I was in the service of Mr. Wild, a whitesmith, in Mint-street. On 30th March I was standing at the door, and saw the two prisoners—Malme told my master he had got three dozen of 16-inch files for sale—he asked 8s. a dozen for them—Harrington was standing at the post opposite—about a fortnight afterwards I was with my master in Horsemonger-lane, and saw Malme—I pointed him out to Mr. Wild, who went and had some conversation with him—he ultimately gave him into custody—I believe there was some one with him, but I cannot say—I did not see Harrington.
Malme. This man was not in the shop; I was at the door.
WILLIAM BLACKFORD. I live in College-street, Tooley-street. On 3rd May I met Harrington, who I did not know before, at the Marquis of Granby public-house, in the Borough—I was at that time admitted to bail by the Magistrate, having been spoken to by Gardiner as being the person that came for the files—I was reading a bill outside the public-house, and Harrington came up to me, and asked how I thought I should get on—I asked, "For what?"—he said, "For the job at Mr. Winter's"—I said, "I hardly know"—he said, "I am very sorry, as I know you are innocent of it; it was me and Malme that got the goods on the Thursday and Friday; I went to Malme, and told him if he would write out another order, we could get some more on the Saturday; and Malme went in and presented the bill, and I was on the opposite side of the way"—he was in my company about three hours and a half—on these facts being stated, the Magistrate discharged me.
COURT. Q. Was it not you that presented the order to Gardiner? A. No; he supposed it was me—I had nothing to do with it—I was at home, and had witnesses to prove it—I go by the name of Oliver—Malme was not with Harrington when this conversation occured.
Harrington. I was not with him above ten minutes, and nothing of the sort passed between us; I know nothing about it.
RICHARD GASH (policeman, M 35.) I took Malme into custody—I told him he was charged with being concerned with others in obtaining files from Messrs. Winter and Rich, of Bankside, by means of a forged order—Wild was with me—Malme turned round and said to him, "What a b----fine mess you have got me into; I did not think you would let me into it like this"—I took him to the station—on the way he said several times, "I am sure when they see me they will know me," or "swear to me"—he did not say why he thought so.
STEPHEN GARDINER re-examined. My impression is that Malme and Blackford are so much alike that I may probably be mistaken in Blackford—the coat he wore was very much like the one Malme has on—before the Magistrate I spoke of Blackford without any hesitation—I did not notice any one outside when the order was presented.
Malme's Defence. I met a man, who asked me to sell the files for him, and I went to young Wild; Harrington was not with me.
There being no proof that the order was not written by Mr. Turner, the prisoners were
MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.
STEPHEN GARDINER. This order for the delivery of axle-trees, purporting to be dated 3rd Dec., 1846, I received from the prisoner—I belived them is be for Mr. King, a customer, and delivered him a set of mail-pattern axle-trees, worth about 4l.
Prisoner. I never saw the man in my life. Witness. I am suere he is the same man; his height and everything is the same—he had a different dress on—he was backwards and forwards in his cart for nearly a month—I recognized him directly before the Magistrate—there were a dozen others there.
ABRAHAM KING. I live in York-street, Lambeth, and am a smith, and a customer of Winter and Rich—I did not send this order, and know nothing about it—I never saw the prisoner till he was at the Police-court—I always write my own orders—this is very nearly like my writing—I do not know whose it is—no one in my employ writes orders for me—Malme was never in my employ—several young men have left my service since Dec., 1846—none of them were like the prisoner so as to be mistaken for him—(Order read. Dec. 3, 1846. Sir,—Please let bearer have a set of mail-patters axle-trees A. King.)
GUILTY.—Aged 20.— Confined Eighteen Months.
(There were two other indictments against both the prisoners.)
Before Mr. Justice Coltman.
The indictment alleged the cause of death to be a rupture of the duodenan and it appearing that it was produced by a shock to the nervous system, the COURT directed the prisoner to be
MR. BALDWIN conducted the Prosecution.
EDWARD JOBLING. I am apprenticed to the prisoner, who is a shoemaker. On Monday morning, 8th May, I found two or three pieces of something that looked like pewter in the coal scuttle, and showed them to the other apprentice—my mistress happened to see it, and told my master—he tole me to go and shake a piece of carpet—I did so, and when I came in he had a cane in his hand, and caught hold of my collar, and hit me with it, and said, "Have I been melting pots?"—I said, "No, sir, I did not say such a thing as that; I said that it looked like pewter"—he only struck me once them—he told me to go and clean the outside windows—I did so, and then asked him what I should do—he told me to sit down, and make a ten-cord thread—I sat down to make it, and he then told me to wipe up some water—I went to get something to do it with, and he said I had got the hemp entangled on purpose, and began to cane me—I cannot say how many times he struck me; he kept on a good time—I struggled, and kicked him twice—he said he
would learn me to kick—I then sat down, and went on again making the thread—I felt the blood running down, and when the other apprentice, Hine, went out with a pair to shoes to the Blackfriars-road, I told my haster of it—I had not mentioned it to Hine—I said, "You have cut my side open, Sir; "and he said, "It served you right, and I wish it was worse"—I did not show him the blood—the blood had been running half an hour when Hine went out—my master was in the room while I was working, before Hine went out; it was in the shop—my master was there all the time—there was a knife lying on the cutting-board, about a yard from my master—he stood up when he caned me—I did not see the knife while he was caning me; I saw it in his hand about ten minutes before—I did not see it again that day that I recollect—I do not know the moment when I was cut.
Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. Was he in the room all the time from the time he thrashed you till you said you were cut? A. Yes; he went up stairs afterwards—he did mot go up before I told him he had cut me—I was working close to him—there are three stools;his was in the middle—I only showed the pewter to Hine; I did not say my master had been stealing a pint pot—my master did not say I had said so—I did not call him a liar; I said it was a story; that I had said no such thing—I have been taken before a Magistrate once for bad behaviour—he threatened to send me to the House of Correction for two months—my master said he would give me another trial—I did not stand in the same place all the time he was caning me; I was trying to kick him the whole time—I only kicked him twice—I threatened to kick him, and I did—he said if he caught me doing anything he would make the blood pour down my back; that was on the Monday after he beat me a great deal of good—I felt the blood immediately he had caned me; I felt it with my hand, looked at it about five minutes after—when he went up stairs, I undid my clothes, and saw the blood—I did not tell Hine; he was working there half an hour after I had the wound—I am saucy to my master when he says anything that I do not like; then perhaps I begin to be saucy—I did not tell the policeman (M 165) I had fallen, and I must have got it so—I told two or three at the workhouse how it was done—I did mot tell them I had fallen against the knife—it did not give me much pain;I could not walk as I used to—I sat on a stool opposite Hine—the counter is at my back—I did not say to a boy named Oaker (looking at him) two or three days before this, that if my master beat me again I would stab myself, and say it was him that did it—I said nothing to that effect.
GEORGE ODLING. I am a surgeon, in High-street, Borough. About two o'clock, on 8th May, I examined the boy—I found a wound about an inch and a half above the hip joint—I did not probe it—it had the appearance of a stab—it went through the lining of the trowsers and shirt—I should say this knife (produced) is very likely to produce such a wound—it must have been dine with considerable force to penetrate the lining and shirt—such a wound might be produced from various causes—it is quite possible if the knife had been lying on the bench, and the boy had stumbled against it, it would have produced it—it is not of any importance—it was a clean cut.
ENOCH HINE. I am apprenticed to the prisoner. I was present on 8th May, between ten and eleven o'clock, when he was caning Jobling—I did not see any knife in his hand—I did not see where the knife was at the time, but I found it afterwards, about a quarter past twelve, on my master's seat, its usual place—I saw Jobling kick him twice, and master said, "I Will
teach you to kick me"—I stayed in the shop about twenty minutes after the caning was over—Jobling did not tell me before I went out that he had been wounded.
Cross-examined. Q. How long have you been in the service? A. Nearly three years—he has been a very good master to me—he never hit me, except for stopping on my errands—he was about a yard or a yard and a half from his seat when he was caning Jobling—I am sure he had not a knife is his hand.
MR. BALDWIN. Q. Could you see both his hands when he was caning the boy? A. Yes—he shoved him away from him, and hit him with the cane.
JOHN CHANNER (policeman, M 24.) I took the prisoner in custody on 8th May, about a quarter to eleven o'clock—I received the boy from a gentleman in the Borough, who told me he had been stabbed by his master—the prisoner said he knew nothing of it—he presented me with his cane, which he said was the one he used for correcting him—this is the shirt the boy had on—(produced)—it is stained with blood, and the trowser also—they are cut through—I also produce the knife.
Cross-examined. Q. I belive he said, "I have no knowledge of anything of the kind; I have beaten him this morning?" A. Yes.
SOPHIA QUY. I am wife of James Day Quy, a draper, of the Commercial-road—the prisoner was in our service four months—she left on Monday week. I missed two shawls, thirty-three yards of muslin, and a scarf—I had seen the prisoner with one of the shawls on, but did not know it then—my husband afterwards asked her if she had seen it—she said no—he charged her with stealing it—she denied it, and said she bought it in the City—I asked where—she would not tell me—I sent for a constable—Sergeant May came, examined her box, in her presence and mine, and found these two remnants of muslin—(produced)—they are mine—she produced this shawl and scarf out of her box—they are my husband's—she knelt down and said she was very sorry she had taken them, but she had not taken the shawl and piece of muslin—she was not given in charge, but dismissed—she left next morning—the washerwoman's daughter brought me eight yards of muslin, which she had given her for a dress—I showed it to the prisoner, and asked her how she came by it—she said the apprentice, Jessop, gave it her—it is my husband's.