CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.
EIGHTH SESSION, HELD JUNE 12TH, 1843.
MINUTES OF EVIDENCE,
Taken in Short-hand,
BY HENRY BUCKLER.
GEORGE HEBERT, CHEAPSIDE.
TYLER & REED, PRINTERS, BOLT-COURT, FLEET-STREET.
On the Queen's Commission of the Peace,
OYER AND TERMINER, AND GAOL DELIVERY
The City of London,
AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE
COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND THE PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION
CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.
Held on Monday, June 12th, 1843 and following Days.
Before the Right Honourable JOHN HUMPHERY, LORD MAYOR of the City of London; Sir John Patteson, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Queen's Bench; Sir John Gurney, Knt., one of the Barons of her Majesty's Court of Exchequer; Sir Creswell Creswell, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas: Thomas Kelly, Esq.: Sir Chapman Marshall, Knt.; and Sir John Pirie, Bart.; Aldemen of the said city: the Honourable Charles Ewan Law, Recorder of the said City: Thomas Wood, Esq.; William Magnay, Esq.; Michael Gibbs, Esq.; John Johnson, Esq.; Sir James Duke, Knt.; John Musgrove, Esq.; and William Hunter Esq.; Alderman of the said City: John Mirehouse, Esq., Common Sergeant of the said City; and Edward Bullock, Esq., Judge of the Sheriff's Court; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and Gaol deliuvery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.
LIST OF JURORS.
CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.
HUMPHERY, MAYOR. EIGHTH SESSION.
A star (*) denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—Two stars (**) that they have been more than once in custody—An obelisk (†) that a prisoner is known to be the associate of bad characters.
LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES.
OLD COURT.—Monday, June 12, 1843.
First Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.
NOT GUILTY .
NOT GUILTY .
GUILTY . Aged 46.— Confined Six Months.
JEFFREY COE . I live in Bridge-street, Great George-street, Bermondsey, and am in the employ of Mr. King, of Newgate-street. On the 24th of May, about four o'clock, the prisoner came into Mr. King's shop, with another man—they were both talking as they came in—the prisoner asked to look at some black kerseymere for trowsers—the young man went up stairs, brought some pieces down, which they did not approve of, and asked to look at more—during the young man's second absence the prisoner came to me, and took my attention by looking at some washing satins, while the other man walked round the shop—a box of velvet was thrown down—I went to pick it up, and while doing so the other man went out—we then missed two pieces of velvet from the back of the shop—I was talking to the prisoner by the side, just by the door.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Have you been learning your deposition by heart? A. No, I have not been talking to any body about it—I am sure the prisoner and the other man were talking together as they came in—they both looked at the black kerseymere—I never said I was not quite sure they were talking together—the prisoner was given into custody—he said he had nothing to do with it, and denied knowing anything of the other man—he said the first time he had ever seen him was in our shop, and that the man got into conversation, with him there.
HENRY AYRES . I am in the employ of Samuel King. On the 24th of May the prisoner and another man came into the shop—the prisoner asked to see some black kerseymere—I showed it to them both—they were abreast of each other—they both laid hold of the goods, and felt the quality—I brought
down three pieces first, then went up for another piece, which did not please them—I went up again, and when I came down the box of velvet was on the ground, two pieces were gone from it, and one piece was on the ground.
Cross-examined. Q. How have you ascertained that you have lost any velvet? A. I left them in the box, and had seen them there an hour before—I am the only shopman—they could not have been sold without my knowledge—Mr. King and myself are the only persons who sell.
COURT. Q. Had you been in the shop all the time after seeing it safe? A. No, I had been to my dinner.
NOT GUILTY .
1714. GEORGE GIBSON was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of May, 1 jacket, value 12s., the goods of William Brown, in a vessel in a port of entry and discharge; and that he had been before convicted of felony.
WILLIAM BROWN . I am apprentice on board the Mary Allen, lying in the London Docks. On the 17th of May I had a jacket there, which I saw safe about three minutes before one o'clock, hanging up on the royal yard, in the forecastle head—this jacket now produced is mine.
JAMES CATLIN . I was at work on board the Mary Allen on the 17th of May, and saw the prisoner come on board, and take the jacket from the royal yard, put it on, and go ashore—I followed, and overtook him with it—this is it.
GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined One Year.
SAMUEL BUTLER . I keep a public-house at Uxbridge. On the 26th of May the prisoner was at my house, about three o'clock in the afternoon—I missed a rabbit, which was afterwards brought to me by Sarah Groves.
Prisoner's Defence. I did not know what I was doing.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 32.— Confined Six Days.
1716. JOHN DARVIL was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of May, 1 canister, value 1s.; and 3lbs. weight of gingerbread, 3s.; the goods of James Brill; and that he had been before convicted of felony.
FRANCIS GOFF . I am a policeman. I was at Ruislip fair—I saw the prisonerloitering about the carts, while they were packing up after the fair—I saw him go up to the prosecutor's cart, take this canister, and walk away—I took him with it.
Cross-examined by MR. CHARNOCK. Q. Was he drunk? A. No, perfectly sober.
GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined One Year.
OLD COURT.—Tuesday, June 13th, 1843.
Second Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.
GUILTY . Aged 44.— Cofined One year.
1718. WILLIAM CARTER was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of June, 1 bridle, value 5s.; 1 saddle, 8s.; 1 kicking-strap, 1s.; and 2 tugs, 1s.; the goods of Henry Jones and another; and that he had been before convicted of felony.
CHARLE'S TAUNTON . I am in partnership with Henry Jones, a bottle-merchant, in Hatton-garden. The articles now produced are ours—I saw them safe on Monday, the 6th of June, about twelve o'clock, and missed them about eight next morning.
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Transported for Seven Years.
1719. WILLIAM GRAYSON and BARNET SAMUEL were indicted for stealing, on the 30th of May, 1 half-crown, 1 shilling, 1 penny, and 10 halfpence, the monies of Arthur Fennell, from the person of Selina Fennell.
SELINA FENNELL . I am the wife of Arthur Fennell, of Crown-court, Aldersgate-street. On the 30th of May, about one o'clock in the day, I was walking in Cheapside—a man touched me on the shoulder and said I was robbed—I went to station, and found the prisoners there—I had four half-crowns, two shillings, and some halfpence in my pocket when I left home—I examined my pocket at the station, and missed a half-crown, a shilling, and some halfpence—that was about ten minutes after I received the information—I did not notice anybody near me.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Are you quite sure you had the money when you left home? A. Yes, I counted it a quarter of an hour before.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Did not you say you had made a mistake after examining your pocket? A. No; I know I put that sum into my pocket.
GEORGE STOREY . I am a porter, and live in St. James-court, Bread-street. I was in Cheapside, and saw the prisoner Grayson put his hand into the prosecutrix's pocket, take it out, and pass something to Samuel—they both went down Bread-street—I touched the lady on the shoulder, told her, and followed the prisoners immediately, and did not lose sight of them till they were secured—I had given information to the by-standers.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Were you in employ at the time? A. Yes—I am porter to Mr. Weeks—I have been so seven years—I was going to St. Paul's-churchyard—I never saw the prisoners before—a gentlemanstopped them at the corner of Bread-street—it was done about three yards from Bread-street.
GEORGE SHEDEL . I am a clerk, and live in St. Pancras. I met the two prisoners in Bread-street, and closely after them several people—Storey was close at their hells, and said they had robbed a lady—a gentleman collared Samuel, and I took Grayson.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Did not Samuel tell you, before you searched him that he had 4s. 6d.? A. Yes.
(Grayson received a good character.)
GRAYSON— GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined One Year.
SAMUEL— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Ten Years.
MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.
JAMES SEARLE . I have some land at March, in Cambridgeshire. On Sunday, the 14th of May, I had a mare in the close—the saddle and bridle were in Mr. Booth's stable—I missed the mare between five and six o'clock next morning—I have since seen it in possession of Grantham—March is about forty miles from Fenlake.
WILLIAM ROWNEY . I am a horse-dealer, and live at Fenlake. On the 15th of May I was at Elstoe fair, about a mile from Bedford, and the prisoner offered me a mare for sale between ten and eleven o'clock in the morning—she appeared very much tucked up and knocked up—I told him so—he said, "Well she may be, I have rode her from Warboys this morning"—I asked him where that was—he said, "About thirty miles"—I refused to buy her—I afterwards had suspicion, and traced her to Britten, and from him to Grantham—I saw her in Grantham's possession, and am sure she was the same mare—I went to the Compter, and saw the prisoner among twenty or thirty more, and pointed him out—I have not the least doubt of him—I said, "This it the man that offered me the mare"—he heard it, and did not deny it.
Prisoner. Q. Did I offer it to you in the public fair? A. Yes.
MR. SEARLE. I live about twenty-two miles from Huntingdon—the mare was worth 5l. at market price.
Prisoner's Defence. I bought it just going into the fair; a person who sells in the fair does not always tell truth; the man I bought it of said he brought it from Warboys, and I told the same tale; I gave him 50s. for the mare, saddle, and bridle; I took her to the fair, but said I would not sell her as I could ride her to London; I saw the man I bought her of at St. Neots fair afterwards.
JOSEPH OLIVER . I am a butcher, and live at St. Neots, Huntingdonshire. On Friday, the 26th of May, I had a mare on St. Neots common—I went to the common next day, and it was gone—I traced it through Thepston-gate towards London, went to Smithfield-market, informed the police, and found
the mare there exposed for sale that same day—Collins was showing it—I saw the prisoner there—the policeman asked him whose property the mare was—he said, "The mare belongs to me"—it is my property—it is worth 12l.
DAVID HEWITT . I am a City policeman. I was in Smithfield on the 26th of May, between four and five o'clock—the prosecutor pointed the mare out to me—I saw the prisoner there, and asked him whose mare it was—he said it was his property—I took him on suspicion of stealing it—as I took him along he said he had made a pretty mess of it—I knew Collins as in the habit of showing horses about the market.
GEORGE WARDLE (City police-constable, No. 325.) I saw the prosecutorin Smithfield—he claimed the mare—I took Collins—he pointed the prisonerout, and said, "That is the man who authorised me to run the mare"—the prisoner was then secured.
Prisoner's Defence. There was a fair at St. Neots, on Thursday, about nine o'clock that morning I bought two studs for 4l. 17s. 6d. each, and sold them for ten guineas; I was about the fair all day; I met the man in the fair in the evening; we walked to Biggleswade; I rode to Hitchen; I walked to Welling; a man overtook me about a mile further with the mare; he said he brought her from Welling, and his master's name was Wells; I asked him if he was going to sell the mare; he said he was; I bought her of him for 9l. 10s.; brought her to town, and put her up at the Horse and Groom; I told the ostler I had swapped her, and she stood me in 11l., and I did not think I should sell her to-day, but put her in a repository, but about four o'clock I put her in the market; I saw the policeman, and had I been inclined I could have escaped.
GUILTY . Aged 33.— Transported for Ten Years.
GUILTY . Aged 15.— Confined Three Months, the last two weeks Solitary.
WILLIAM SMITH . On Monday, the 8th of May, I came from Colnbrook to London with my master's wagon—I saw my great coat safe in the wagon at twelve o'clock at night, when I started, and when I got to Brentford I missed it—this is it—the prisoner lives near me, but I did not see him that night.
Prisoner's Defence. A drover on the road asked me to pawn the coat for him; he said it was his own, and if I would pawn it, I should have the ticket as he should not be that way again for more than twelve months.
GUILTY. Aged 19.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Three Months.
ARNOLD WILLIAMS . I am in the employ of Mr. Jones, a bookseller, No. 65, St. Paul's Churchyard. On the 1st of June, about half-past eleven o'clock, I was standing at the window, and saw the prisoner take a handkerchief
out of a gentleman's pocket—he held it behind him as I thought for somebody to take—no one took it—he then put it into his own pocket, and went away—the gentleman was a stranger—I have never been able to find him—I saw the colour of the handkerchief—the one produced resembles it—I am positive the prisoner is the person—he had his arm in a sling.
Prisoner. I had fallen down and sprained my shoulder—he said he was up three stories high when he saw this. Witness. I was—he had his left arm in the sling then, and took the handkerchief with his right—when I saw him next day his right arm was in a sling.
JOHN DEAR . I am a City policeman. I received information from Williams, and about a dozen yards from the Tract Society found the prisoner—I searched him and found two handkerchiefs in his pocket—I asked him if either of them were marked—he said, "No" but one is marked—before Williamssaw the handkerchief, I asked if he knew what colour it was—he said, "Yes, a whitish one"—I was in private clothes, and had watched the prisoner for about half an hour previously, and he changed his sling twice in that time in Cannon-alley.
Prisoner's Defence. I was standing to see the children go into St. Paul's; the policeman came up, and said, "Where is the gentleman's watch?" I put my hand into my pocket, and said, "Here are my two handkerchiefs which I bought;" this is the one I wipe my nose with.
GUILTY . ** Aged 19.— Transported for Ten Years.
1725. ELIZA SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of May, 1 watch, value 2l.; 1 watch chain, 1s.; 1 seal, 1s.; and 1 watch key, 6d.; the goods of George Dunman, from his person: to which he pleaded
GUILTY . * Aged 21.— Confined Nine Months.
GUILTY .* Aged 17.— Confined Four Months.
Upon which no evidence was offered.
NOT GUILTY .
WILLIAM HENRY WARD . I am a tobacconist, and live in Maiden-lane, Covent-garden. On the 16th of May, about ten minutes to one o'clock, I missed from my counter a jar containing nearly 2lbs. weight of tobacco—they have not been found.
ELIZA YOUNG . I live next door to the prosecutor. About one o'clock, on the 16th of May, I was standing at the door, and saw the prisoner come up the court, walk into Mr. Ward's, and in about two minutes walk out with the jar of tobacco under his arm, and go up the court—I am sure he is the man.
WILLIAM PETERKIN . I am a policeman. I took him into custody at three o'clock that same afternoon, in the water-closet at the Castle, in Bullinn-court, Maiden-lane—I was requested by the prosecutor to go there.
Prisoners Defence. I was not near the place; I had not been at the public-house a quarter of an hour when the officer came and took me.
GUILTY . * Aged 33.— Confined Six Months.
1729. JUDITH SWEENEY was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of May, 1 horse-collar, value 10s.; and 1 bridle, 5s.; the goods of William Hedges.—2nd Count, stating them to be the goods of William Denue.
JOHN WILLIAMS . I live in Praed-street, Paddington, and am in the employof William Hedges, a sadler, of No. 109, Edgware-road. About six o'clock in the morning, on the 20th of May, I went to the shop and put a collar, bridle, and saddle outside the door for a few minutes—about half-past six o'clock I missed the collar and bridle—the saddle was left—they belong to a Mr. Denue, but were in Mr. Hedge's possession.
GEORGE THORNTON . I am a policeman. I stopped the prisoner with the bridle and collar, about twenty minutes to seven o'clock, a quarter of a mile from the prosecutor's—she had been drinking, but was not very drunk—I liked where she got them from—she said Williams had hove them over her head—she then said she stole the collar, and meant to get a pony for the bridle.
(Property produced and sworn to.)
Prisoner's Defence. I was very drunk, and did not know I had them—I never to them.
GUILTY . * Aged 49.— Transported for Seven Years.
(The prisoner has been about 150 times in custody.)
1730. EDWARD THOMPSON was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of May, 1lb. 5oz. weight of brass, value 1s. 2d.; and 5oz. weight of gilding-metal, 10d.; the goods of Henry Johnson, his master; to which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 34.— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Two Months.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
JOHN MAYNE JOLLIFFE . I am an Excise-officer. I was at the prosecutor's premises on the 16th of May, in the Excise-office room—I heard something, looked through the boards into the fat-room, and saw the prisoner and another—I went round, and as soon as they saw me they came out—I asked what business they had there—they were rather confused—the other man, said, "Does not Mr. Williams work here?"—I said, "No"—the prisoner was holding a bag—he dropped it—it contained fat, which I compared with that in the fat-room, and it appeared to be the same—he said at the office that he was asked by the other man to come and help him carry the fat.
Prisoner. Q. Did I touch the fat? A. I saw you holding the bag while the other put the fat in.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Four Months.
OLD COURT.—Wednesday, June 14, 1843.
Third Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.
LOUISA LANE . I am single, and live in Ludgate-street. I also have a shop in Sidney's-alley—I am in partnership with my sister, Rebecca—the prisoner was our errand-boy. On the 19th of May, about half-past seven o'clock in the evening, he came to me at Ludgate-hill, with a message from my sister—I was serving some customers, soon after, and he went into the back shop, where I had a cash-box on the desk with sixteen sovereigns in it—I had been to the box five minutes before, in the prisoner's presence—I turned the key, and, as I thought, locked the box, but I had not—the sovereigns were there then—I left him in the shop with the box—I returned to the back shop to write a note to my sister—I took the box up to put it into the desk, and the lid came open—I immediately counted the money, and missed five sovereigns—the prisoner was then in the front shop—I asked a person, in his presence, if I had paid any money away.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. I believe you found all your money? A. Yes—I found the five sovereigns on the floor, by the prisoner—he had only been with us three days—I had turned the key, but the hasp had not caught.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 17.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury and Prosecutriz.
Confined Seven Days.
GEORGE WILLIAM COLLEY GREGORY . I keep a tavern, in Ruper-street, St. James's—the prisoner lived two years with me. On the 10th of May, at eight o'clock in the morning, I was in my passage, which leads to the street-door—the prisoner came up to me, and asked leave to go out—I said, "You were out on Sunday night, you had better remain in and save your money"—he said, "I must go out"—I saw his pocket handkerchief, and he was covering something under his jacket—I asked what it was—he said, "Not anything"—I asked again?—he said he had nothing, advancing towards me—I said I inSisted on seeing—I stopped him from going out as he ran towards the door—we struggled—I threw him on the stairs, and found a bottle of brandy on him—he then said it was smuggled brandy—I went to the shoe-house, and in a cupboard, which he kept locked, I found a pint of brandy—they were in champagne-bottles, which he had access to.
WILLIAM CAWTHORN . I am a wine and brandy merchant, and live at Salisbury-wharf, Strand—I have tried the strength of this brandy with the hydrometer, and tasted it—it is the same as the prosecutor's stock.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. I suppose you serve other people with brandy? A. Yes—brandy often differs in quality.
NOT GUILTY .
Before Mr. Justice Cresswell.
NOT GUILTY .
1736. ROBERT WISHAW and JOHN BRENNAN were indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of the Guardians of the West London Union, about two in the night of the 31st of May, at Edmonton, and stealing therein, 1 loaf of bread, value 2d.; 1lb. weight of mutton, 4d.; and 1/2lb. weight of butter, 3d.; their goods.—2nd. Count, stating them to be the goods of Thomas Poole Parker; and that Brennan had been before convicted of felony.
MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the Prosecution.
THOMAS POOLE PARKER . I am master of the school of the West London Union, for the education of the children of the poor—the school-house is in Meeting-house-lane, Edmonton—the house and property are in my charge—I reside there—the servants there are paupers, receiving parish relief, and doing the work for that relief—they are entirely under my control—I have the entire management of the house—on the night of the 31st of May, I saw all the premises fastened up at eleven o'clock, every part of them, and between two and three o'clock in the morning I was alarmed by the house-dog barking—I went down stairs about half-past two, listened tome minutes, heard nothing, and finding things as I had left them, went up again—I was alarmed again in about half an hour, by the dog barking—I went down, and heard a rustling noise in the house—I went up, dressed myself, came down, and found the scullery-door open, which had been fastened the night before—I proceeded to examine the window, and found three wooden bars were removed from the pantry-window, which window is outside, in the yard—the yard is between the house and the road—there is a store-room at the back of the house, quite distinct from the pantry—it appeared to me that an iron bar had been forced out of its place at the store-room window—the store-room and pantry are all under the same roof—the scullery it between them—an entry appeared to have been effected into the store-room, by removing on iron bar from the out-side—a person could not get from the store-room to the pantry, as the store-room was locked—I found foot-marks of mud in the store-room, but nothing gone from there—that window is at the back of the house, but the pantry window at the side—I missed from the pantry a loaf of bread, the remains of a loin of lamb, and some butter—that is the property of the guardians of the West London Union—a person could get into the pantry, by breaking the wooden bars down—I afterwards found the prisoners together in a water-closed by the store-room window outside the building—I saw some crumbs of bread on the seat of the privy, and some small pieces of fat, similar to mutton fat—some butter rolled in a handkerchief, and part of a rushlight—it appeared somebody had been eating, and dropped the crumbs on the seat—I believe the butter had come form the pantry, as about that quantity was missing—I weigh it out for the inmates—we had rushlights of a similar description in the pantry—I collared the prisoners, and said, "You vagabonds, what business have you here?" they said they came for a night's lodging—I said, "Who broke down the bars of the pantry-window?"—they said, "Some of your boys might have done it; "but all our boys were up in bed, and it was not done when I went to bed at night—I held them till I gave them in charge.
Brennan. He said at Edmonton the rushlights were in the store-room. Witness. I said I had rushlights in the store-room and pantry.
JAMES BARTLETT . I am a policeman. On the night in question I went to the school-house, got over the yard wall, and found Parker holding the prisoners, who were trying to get away—I took them, and found a large spike nail on Wishaw—I looked at the pantry window, found three bars broken down, and marks on two of them which corresponded with the nail, where it had been ripped off—I found the back door, which leads into the house, had a mark of this noil on the door-post—the fetch of the door was bent back three or four inches, and the door wide open—it appeared to have been done with the nail—I found a bar removed from the store-room, and replaced again—there
were footmarks inside on a white table where they had got down—I saw the crumbs on the privy seat.
ROBERT BARTHOLOMEW . I was in the house—the boys alarmed me—I went down, and saw the prisoners in charge—they had been inmates of the house for about half a year, and had been away about three years and a half.
WILLIAM CHAMBERS . I am clerk to Mr. Pontifex, who is clerk to the West London Union. I produce the order of the Poor-law Commissioners with their seal—the guardians have acted under that for five years—Mr. Buckmaster is chairman of the board of guardians.
Brennan's Defence. I was going by the house; Mr. Parker ran out of the gate, and said, "You have been breaking my house open." He took us down the yard to the closet, and showed us the store-room. I was never in the closet at all. A woman came and locked the gate. I think he must have opened the door to come out after us.
JURY to T. P. PARKER. Q. Was there any other property lying about? A. No, nothing they could take—I was alarmed too soon—I did not examine the size of the footmarks—my wife came to my assistance, and one of the prisoners kicked her on the knee.
WISHAW— GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Six Months.
BRENNAN— GUILTY . Aged 16.— Transported for Seven Years.
Fourth Jury, before Mr. Recorder.
1737. CATHERINE HUGHES was indicted for (with eight other persons,) assaulting Richard Martyn, on the 16th of May, putting him in fear, and taking from his person, and against his will, 3 half-crowns, 7 shillings, and 7 sixpences, his property; and beating, striking, and using other personal violenceto him.
RICHARD MARTYN . I live on Holborn-bridge. On the 16th of May, between six and seven o'clock in the evening, I was passing Newcastle-court, Strand, coming from Lincoln's-inn-fields—I saw the prisoner standing at a door alone—she suddenly snatched an umbrella from my hand, and went into the house with it—I followed, and demanded it—the door was immediately shut, and two females came, wishing to know what I wanted—I requested them to return my umbrella; and soon after three or four more came, accompaniedby two men—they struck me several times, and the men struck me at the conclusion, when they had got all the money I could give them—they demanded the money I had about me—the women struck me several times—the prisoner was one—they demanded my money, which I gave them—it was from 17s. to 18s.—I was compelled to part with it through fear—they then opened the door—I left, and fetched a policeman into the house—we demanded the umbrella of the prisoner—the others had left the house—the policeman got the umbrella—I believe it was behind the door, where she first put it, he took her—I was struck once or twice after they got my money—the umbrella belonged to Henry Smith.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. What did you do down this court? A. I had business that way—many respectable people go that way—it is a public thoroughfare, and my shortest way—it makes five minutes difference I think—I had been through there that morning, to go to the Strand and Regent-street—I swear I had not been in that house with a female, and left my umbrella and handkerchief there in the morning, as security for 5s., and called for it about three o'clock—I was never in the house before—I gave the prisoner in charge for stealing my umbrella—I do not know whether there were
persons in the different rooms when I went with the policeman—I was very much alarmed—I do not think I went into more than one room—the prisoner met us on the landing place, and denied having the umbrella—I have seen respectable ladies go that way, with a man-servant after them—I did not offer the people in the house the money, they demanded it—I forced myself out of the house—I offered the money, or I should not get out—they demanded it, and I gave it them—the prisoner was committed for stealing the umbrella—I stated these particulars to the Magistrate.
THOMAS MILLS (police-constable F 92.) On the 5th of May I was on duty in Picket-street—the prosecutor spoke to me, and took me to Newcastle-court—I went into the house with him, into three or four rooms, we saw people in each room, and asked him if those were the parties who stole the umbrella—he said, "No"—on coming out we met the prisoner on the landing—he said, "That is the woman who stole my umbrella"—I asked her for it—she said she knew nothing of it; but when she found I was going to take her to the station she said she would give me the umbrella, and, at the bottom of the stairs, she put her hand round the corner of the staircase, and took it from inside the door in the passage, against the wall—I could not see when I went in—I took her to the station.
Cross-examined. Q. There was no charge of robbery with violence then? A. He gave her in charge for stealing the umbrella—he was sober—he might have been drinking, but was not the worse for liquor—most of the houses in this court are bad—it is the shortest way to New Boswell-court—it might make a minute's difference—he said nothing to me at the time about being knocked about, and robbed of 17s. or 18s.—his face was cut, and his eye black—he did not complain to me of that being done there.
RICHARD MARTYN re-examined. Q. Is this your name and handwriting to this deposition? A. Yes—it was read over to me before I signed it. (The witness's deposition being read, stated that some women came into the room and assaulted him violently—that he forced himself out, which he should not have been able to do unless he had offered them money, and that he gave them 16s. or 17s.)
NOT GUILTY .
RICHARD MARTYN . On 15th May, I was in Newcastle-court—the prisoner took my umbrella from me—she had not spoken to me—she went into the house with it—I went after her—some persons assaulted me—I did not get it till I went with the policeman.
Cross-examined. Q. Had you seen her before? A. Never; it probably was intended to allure me in.
NOT GUILTY .
THOMAS HORWELL . I am a cheesemonger, and keep a shop in High-street, Shadwell—the prisoner was my shopman, and had been so three months. In consequence of suspicions I entertained, I applied to Mr. Young, who marked 2s. in my presence, and gave them to Mrs. Buxton, who lives at his house with her father—I afterwards met Mrs. Buxton coming from my house with some pork—on going home, I searched my till, and found in it one of the marked shillings, and one shilling not marked—the police-sergeant was fetched, the prisoner searched, and two shillings found on him—one of them marked—I had paid him 2s. on the Thursday night, and he said those were the 2s. I had given him—I had not given him the marked shilling—this was on Saturday.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Was Young present when the marked money was found in the till? A. No—he was present when the marked shilling was found on the prisoner—he did not take hold of it—it never went out of the officer's hands—not what was taken from the prisoner's pocket—he had the 2s. found in the till—he saw it in the officer's hands, and said it was one of the marked shillings—I swear it was not in his hands—he it a surgeon, and attends my family—he is not a particular friend—he calls as a neighbour—he never dined or drank tea with me—he has a shop in High-street, fitting up as a chemist's—he practises in the parish—I don't know his patients—he merely gave me pills now and then—I have known him three months—he has a partner coming.
Q. Have you been in difficulties, lately, yourself? A. Not exactly; I have been short of money, at times—I lost 15l. at skettles in one evening, seven or eight years ago—I told the prisoner of that—I am married—I did not order that persons to whom I owed money, should not be admitted—I could not stop them from coming in, the door is open—I have said to the prisoner, if so-and-so call, I am not at home—I might owe those people money—on the 6th of May Lowed a person 13l.—they called while I was out—there is no back-shop—I might have told the prisoner it was wrong to let them in, as my wife was ill—I did say so—he said he was serving customers, and could not help it—I did not say he should have taken a knife to them—I said it was a great piece of impudence their going in—I met him on Sunday the 7th of May, and walked with him—I did not consult him about my affairs; I said, I thought I should let the shop as soon as I could get a customer—trade was so bad, and I was rather behind, but if I had let the shop I could have settled with my creditors—I did not say the only thing I could do was to say I had got drunk and lost my money—I said I expected my father and brother that day—I did not say I must account to them for the loss of my money—I will not say I did not say I should consult them about my affairs—the prisoner told me to say I had got drunk and lost the money—I cannot tell why he suggested that—I had not lost my money—I don't recollect having a discussion with the prisoner on the morning of 13th of May—I had no quarrel with him—I had a conversation with him, which I do not recollect; but he said, "Do you want a row? if you do, I can row as well as you."—I said, "Pocock, I do not want any row"—that was the end of it—I had said nothing before that I recollect—I went to Young's house about two hours after that—he marked the money in his drawing-room in my presence, and gave it to Mrs. Buxton—I had told him my suspicions when I went to him—I did not say I had quarrelled with the prisoner, nor that I was in difficulties—I suspected him on account of a letter I received, and because he could not answer me civilly—I know Shoesmith, a corn-chandler—the money was not handed to him to my knowledge—I will not swear it was not handed to Young; but believe, on my oath, the officer never put it out of his hand—I will not swear it was not put into Young's hand.
Q. Did not Young look at them, throw one shilling down, and say, "That is the shilling I marked?" A. He did not, I will swear—he had the two shillings which were taken from the till—I did not see other money in his hand.
ELIZABETH BUXTON . I live with my father, at Mr. Young's. My father is an invalid under his roof—I saw Young mark two shillings between five and six o'clock in the evening—I took them to Horwell's shop, purchased 2lb. 6oz. of pork of the prisoner, by Young's directions—it came to 1s. 5d.—I gave the prisoner the two marked shillings, and had 7d. change, which he took from the till—I saw him put the two marked shillings in—I met
Mr. Horwell three or four minutes after I came out of his shop—I told him I had purchased the pork—he immediately went into his shop—I have since seen both the shillings in the officer's hands at the Police Court.
Cross-examined. Q. What rooms do you and your father occupy? A. The two rooms above the shop—we went to live there at the same time as Mr. Young—he had been attending my father a long time—no other coins were marked in my presence—Young and the prosecutor were not together out of my presence—he frequently came to Young's, but not to tea or dinner—I never visited him—my father has a small annuity.
COURT. Q. Look at this shilling? A. This is the one found in the prisoner's pocket, and one of those I saw marked—it was marked with a knife.
DANIEL DERRIG (police-sergeant.) I went with Mr. Young to Horwell's shop, on Saturday evening, the 13th of May—the prisoner was called into the back parlour by Horwell, who said, "I suspect you have been robbing me"—the prisoner appeared surprised, and asked how—Horwell said, "I suspect you have been taking money from the till"—I asked the prisoner if he had any money about him—he said he had—he put his hand into his pocket, and took out two shillings, one of which Horwell identified as one Young had marked—the prisoner said, "They are the two you gave me the night before last"—I produce the two found in the till.
Cross-examined. Q. Was a Mr. Shoesmith there at the time you took the money from the prisoner? A. I do not think he was—Dr. Young was there—he examined the money, I am quite sure about that—to the best of my recollection he took it in his hand and looked at it—but I will not swear positively—he was before the Magistrate, but was not examined, and not bound over—I did not see Mr. Young at the till—I was not there when the money was taken out of the till—when it was handed over to me it was in Mr. Young's possession, but Mr. Horwell was present at the time—I asked the prisoner whether he had any objection to let me search him—he said, "Not the least"—I then asked him whether he had any money about him—after he took the two shillings out of his pocket, and after Mr. Horwell identified one as one that Mr. Young had marked, the prisoner said, "They are the two shillings you gave me the night before last"—I saw the prosecutor identify the shilling—that was before Mr. Young had looked at it—I think it was then handed to Mr. Young—it was put on the table, and Mr. Young took it up—I do not recollect the prosecutor saying, "That is the shilling, is it not, Dr. Young?" or anything of the kind—some words might have passed, but I cannot recollect what.
COURT. Q. Did you receive the 2s. which the prisoner produced from his pocket? A. I did, in the first instance—I examined them before any one else looked at them—I noticed a mark on one of them—I can swear that the one Mr. Horwell afterwards spoke to was one I took from the prisoner—it could not have been changed—it was not out of my sight—Dr. Young had it in his hand, but I saw it—the mark I now find on the shilling is the mark that was on the shilling I had from the prisoner—there is one mark on the crown.
MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Whose head was on the shilling you took from the prisoner? A. I cannot say whether it was George or William—I cannot recollect what was on the reverse side, not to describe it—the marks are on the crown, which is at the top, I should say, but I cannot say positively—(looking at a shilling)—this is not the shilling I took from the prisoner, it was not like this—this was taken from the till—I had it from Mr. Horwell—two shillings were given me as from the till—I do not know what the till contained
—the prisoner was not present when the two shillings were handed to me as from the till—I received the two shillings before I took him into custody.
JURY. Q. Did you observe the mark on the money found on the prisoner before any other person examined it? A. I did—I noticed it myself before it was pointed out to me by anybody—Mr. Young fetched me—I knew I was coming to look for marked money—I was not told where the mark was—I was told there was two shillings marked.
ELIZABETH BUXTON re-examined. I was never present at any marking of money on any other occasion by Mr. Young—this is the shilling that was found on the prisoner—I am sure this is one of the shillings I saw Mr. Young mark—it was marked across the lion's thigh, and this is the other shilling—there were but two marked.
THOMAS HORWELL re-examined. When I left I cleared the till—I left five sixpences and a lot of copper—I should think 3s. or 4s. worth—when I returned I found two shillings and four sixpences—I cannot say whether there was more or less copper—I did not count it—one of the shillings was marked, and the other not—I left no one in charge of the shop but the prisoner—there was no one with me when I took the money out of the till, which I afterwards handed to the officer—I sent the prisoner for a pint of beer, and went at once to the till, and found the two shillings—I sent for Mr. Young, and he fetched the policeman.
MRS. BUXTON re-examined. He gave me sixpence and 1d. in change—the prosecutor was not at our house above twenty minutes—I went with the money directly it was marked—there were two persons in the shop when I went in, and each of them paid the prisoner a shilling—both bought butter, and when I came out I left a little girl in the shop.
MR. BALLANTINE. Q. How long have you known Dr. Young? A. About six or seven months—I stated at the office all I observed, except about the customer being in the shop—I was not asked the question, and did not state it.
NOT GUILTY .
JOHN COOK (police-constable S 190.) On the 11th of June, about a quarter-past eleven o'clock in the morning, I saw the prisoner in Hampstead-road, riding a horse towards London, with a handkerchief round its neck instead of a halter—I stopped him, and asked if it belonged to him—he said a man gave him 1s. to take it to Hampstead—he was on this side Hampstead, coming towards London—I detained him.
Prisoner. I was intoxicated, and did not know what I said. Witness. He was drunk.
JOSEPH TIBBS . I am the son of Eliza Tibbs, a cow-keeper, Red Lion-hill, Hampstead. The gelding is hers, and was turned out on Rosamond-avenue, Hampstead-road, 300 or 400 yards from where the prisoner was stopped—it is an open place, and has no gate to enclose it.
Prisoner. I did not know what I was doing; I was lodging at the Flask two or three nights, waiting for work—I met a few men, who gave me drink.
NOT GUILTY .
OLD COURT.—Thursday, June 15th, 1843.
Second Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.
1741. THOMAS BLOSSMAN , was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Tatham, on the 15th of May, and stealing therein, 9 spoons, value 2l.; and 3 forks, 35s.; his goods; to which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Transported for Ten Years.
1742. JOHN MORGAN was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of May, at St. Marylebone, 3 spoons, value 1l.; 2 rings, 10s.; 1 seal, 10s.; 1 snuffbox, 4s.; 1 box, 5s.; and 36 sovereigns; the goods of Thomas Stevenson, his master, in his dwelling-house.
MR. DOANE conducted the Prosecution.
THOMAS STEVENSON . I am a surgeon, and live in Edgeware-road, in the parish of St. Marylebone. The prisoner was in my employ for about two months as a sort of supernumerary assistant—I was left executor to a lady named Williams, and in that capacity I received the property named in the indictment, and some deeds, which I placed in a deed-box in a cupboard in my consulting-room; the key of the box was also placed in the cupboard, of which I kept the key—I placed it there on the 15th, and saw it safe there on the 16th—the prisoner had no right to go to that cupboard—on the morning of the 17th I went to my surgery, about half-past eleven o'clock, and found the prisoner gone, the cupboard unlocked, the bolt of the lock half shut, as if it had been tampered with, and marks of violence on the top of the cupboard, as if the door had been wrenched open with the finger—the door was elastic, you could get your hand into the cupboard—the deed-box was gone—I gave information, and the case was advertised in the Hue and Cry—on the same evening I received, by the Parcels Delivery Company, the deed-box, locked up, containing the deeds—I afterwards received information that the prisoner was in custody at Dover—the property now produced is what I saw safe in the deed-box on the 16th—I have received letters from the deceased with the impression of this seal—I reside at this house occasionally—I have two servants there.
EDWARD CHARLES TORRELL . I am superintendent of the police at Dover. On Sunday morning, the 21st of May, in consequence of information, I found the prisoner in a state of intoxication in a brothel—I took him to where I ascertained he lodged, that his landlord might take care of him—I afterwards found this property on him—by reference to the Hue and Cry I suspected he had stolen it, and brought him up to London—I found all this property on his person—he gave no account of himself, he would not say anything.
GUILTY . Aged 35.— Transported for Ten Years.
THOMAS LAMPORT HARRIS . I live in Carey-lane, City. On the evening of the 29th of May, between seven and eight o'clock, I was walking in Drury—lane with a friend—in consequence of something that was said to me, I felt in my pocket, and missed my handkerchief, which I am certain was safe a few minutes previous—I turned round, collared the prisoner, and accused him of taking it—he said he had not taken it, that it was two boys, whom he pointed out—on my accusing him again he said if I would let him go he
would give me the handkerchief, and he produced it from his pocket—this is it.
Prisoner's Defence. There were two boys behind the gentleman; I saw the handkerchief drop; no one looked for it, and I put it into my pocket.
GUILTY . Aged 11.— Transported for Ten Years—Parkhurst.
Before Mr. Baron Gurney.
1744. RICHARD NEWEY was indicted for that he, being employed in the Post-office, did, on the 9th of June, steal a certain post letter containing a sovereign, the property of Her Majesty's Postmaster-general.—Seven other Counts, varying the manner of stating the charge.
MESSRS. SHEPHERD and ADOLPHUS conducted the Prosecution.
ROBERT SMITH . I am superintending president of the Twopenny Post-office. The prisoner was employed as an assistant letter-carrier in the Enfield district—in consequence of something I heard on the 8th of June, I marked a sovereign, and enclosed it in a sheet of paper, sealed it, and directed my clerk to address it to Mr. Thomas Nicholson, George-street, Manchester, and saw him direct it—I delivered the letter that same day to Peek, the officer, and desired him to proceed to Ponder's-end next day and post the letter there, and to meet me at Enfield post-office a little before one o'clock on the 9th—I got to Enfield about a quarter to one on the 9th—it was the prisoner's duty to collect the letters at Ponder's-end, and he was provided with a pouch to put them in, and to take them to the post-office at Enfield, to be made up for the London bag—he collected at Ponder's-end about a quarter-past twelve—I waited at Enfield till the bag was brought out of the post-office, and delivered to the rider to put into his saddle-bag to bring to London—I proceded immediately to the post-office at Enfield—Peek was also there—I got the bag from the rider—the prisoner was standing at the side of the horse—I took the bag into the sorting-office, cut it open and looked for this letter—I could not find it, and I said to the prisoner, "A letter is missing, are all the letters here that you have brought from the receiving houses?"—he said, "Yes"—I looked over the letters again, and said, "A letter is certainly missing, have you got any about you?"—he said, "No"—I then asked him if he had any objection to be searched—he hesitatingly said, "No"—I directed Peek to search him—when he was in the act of doing so, the prisoner got out of the chair where he was sitting, and said, "It is no use denying it," put his hand into his left-hand trowsers pocket, and pulled out the letter, crumpled up—it was the letter I had previously given Peek—this is it, it has not been opened yet—(The witness here opened it)—it contains the same sovereign as I put in—the prisoner said, "I beg your pardon, I hope you will forgive me!"—he fell down in the chair, and laid his head across the back of it—I then gave him into custody.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did he appear to be very much terrified at the time? A. Yes—I do not know that there is such a person as Mr. Thomas Nicholson, of George-street, Manchester—it was a name which came into my head, and was used only for the purpose of detection—the letter bears no post-mark.
box at Ponder's-end post-office, on the 9th, about half-past ten o'clock in the morning—I afterwards went to Enfield, and met Mr. Smith there—I waited till the prisoner brought the bag out of the office, and gave it to the riding-boy—I then stepped forward, and ordered the boy to give me the bag back—we went into the office, and Mr. Smith cut the bag open, and said there was a letter missing—he asked the prisoner whether he had brought all the letters from Ponder's-end—he said, "Yes"—he asked if he had got any about him—he said, "No"—he asked if he had any objection to be searched—he hesitatingly said no—I was about to search him, when he said, "It is no use denying it,"put his hand into his trowser's pocket, and produced the letter in a crumpled state—he then said, "I beg your pardon, I hope you will forgive me"—he then fell back in the chair, apparently in a fainting state, and hung his head over the chair—this is the letter.
EMMA BRADING . My husband keeps the post-office receiving-house at Ponder's-end, and I assist him in doing the duties of the office—I know the prisoner—he came to the office on the 9th of June—this letter was then in the post-office—as I took the letters out of the box, and put them on the counter, I observed this letter, bearing a blue stamp, I took it up, and observed to the prisoner, that I thought it above weight, and that it contained coin, and by the sound of it a sovereign—I knocked it against the counter—the prisoner took it up, looked at it, and replied to the same effect, that it did contain coin—I then proceeded to sort them, and make up my bill, and gave all the letters to the prisoner—I laid this down among the rest—he had no bag—he went away with the letters to go to Enfield.
Cross-examined. Q. I suppose you stamp all the letters? A. Yes.
COURT. Q. It is your business to do so? A. Yes, and I supposed I had done so—this letter ought to have been stamped, but I must in the conversation with the prisoner have omitted stamping all the unpaid letters—I am sure I stamped all the paid—there were only twelve letters altogether, six of each—stamped letters are considered as unpaid—paid letters are those which I receive money for.
(Tom Flood Cutbush, of Enfield; John Harvey, of Stamford-hill; Thomas Foster, builder, of Enfield; Thomas Parbury, smith, of Enfield; Charles Griffiths, clothier, of Enfield; Ebenezer Gibbons, fruiterer, of Enfield; William Hogg, plumber, of Enfield; Harry Young, surveyor, of Enfield; Thomas Ridley, watch and clockmaker, of Enfield; George Phipps, sadler, of Enfield; Joel Logsden, coach-builder, of Enfield; William Lake, grocer, of Enfield; John Glover, coach-master, of Enfield; and Moses Patter, boot-maker, of Enfield, gave the prisoner a good character.
GUILTY. Aged 18.—Strongly recommended to mercy. — Transported for Twelve Years.
MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN BUILDER (police-constable C 51.) On Tuesday night, the 23rd of May, I was on duty in Vine-street station—about half-past three o'clock in the morning, I went below to watch the prisoners—the prisoner was confined there—he was using very bad language to the police in general—about five o'clock, as I was outside the cell, he struck me in the face, just between the eye-brows—I do not know what with—the blood immediately gushed out a great deal—I went to Mr. Tothill's, a surgeon—I had not said anything to the prisoner previous to his doing this.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Were there other policeman there at the time? A. Up above, bat not in the cell—there were six or seven persons in the cell besides the prisoner—I could not form any opinion whether the prisoner was sober or not—I do not believe he was drunk at the time—he was not so bad but he knew what he was about—I did not suppose him to be drunk—I did at first, when I went at half-past three o'clock to look into the cell, hearing him talk loud, and using abusive language; but this was two hours after.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you know where he lived? A. Yes, in Little Pulteney-street, about twenty yards from where I found him—he is a barber—after taking him to the station I came away again—he did not appear to be much excited—he struck me on the head with his umbrella—I took him because he was riotous in the street, shouting out very loud—I told him several times to go home, but he refused—there was another constable with me—the prisoner was tipsy, not out of the way—he walked very nearly as well as I did.
JOHN WARREN . On the 23rd of May I was in Vine-street station for begging—I was there when the prisoner was brought in—he appeared to be half drunk—I saw a policeman come into the cell where we were confined—I heard the prisoner say that they were a set of b----y Peelers and paupers, and he would expose them before the police-commissioners—I saw him take a knife out of his pocket, open it, and put it into his right-hand trowsers pocket—about a minute and a half after I saw him thrust his hand through the aperture of the door, and stab the policeman—he then wiped the knife between his thumb and finger, and put it into his pocket—I then saw him go to the water-closet in the cell, open the lid about five or six inches, and put the knife underneath.
Cross-examined. Q. What are you? A. A labourer—I am not in employ at present—I did work for the Equitable Gas Company—I left a fortnight after Christmas—this was the first time I had been begging—I was discharged next morning—there were six or seven other persons in the cell—I had no conversation with the prisoner—he did not appear to me to be very much excited—he seemed to be mild when he called the police b----y Peelers—he appeared half drunk—I was the only person in the cell who was examined before the Magistrate—nothing was said about my being let out next morning if I gave evidence against the prisoner—a charge of begging was made against me by an officer of the Mendicity Society—he did not know me before—I had applied to my parish, and they told me to go for a soldier—I had not heard any of the police threaten the prisoner, or say anything about giving him three months.
HENRY BERESFORD . I am a police-inspector. On the 24th of May I was on duty in Vine-street station—I saw Builder coming from the cell where the prisoner was confined, with blood running from the tip of his nose—I afterwards went into the cell, and found this penknife at the top of the soil of the water-closet, as if just dropped—it was closed.
Cross-examined. Q. Were you present when the prisoner was brought in in custody? A. Yes, he was certainly drunk, but he could walk and talk—he had no appearance of having been struck—I did not observe that his hat was broken, nor did he make any complaint.
five o'clock, he had a punctured at the lower part of the forehead, near the left eye-brow, about half an inch deep—this penknife would inflict such a wound.
Cross-examined. Q. Was not the external part of the wound small and contracted, instead of being of the size proportioned to death? A. Yes—punctured wounds or stabs are almost always so—the orifice naturally contracts—such wounds are always more or less dangerous—he has never been more serious.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY of an Assault. Aged 36.— Confined Six Months.
1746. JAMES NOWLING was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwwlling house at Charles Innes, about the hour of eleven in the night of the 27th of May, at St. Clement danes, with intent to steal, and stealing therein 2lbs. weight of cheroots, value 25s., and 1lb. weight of cigars 11s. his goods.
CHARLES INNES . I live at No. 8, Holywell-street, Strand, in the parish of St. Clement Danes, and am a dealer in cigars. On Saturday night, the 27th of May, about eleven o'clock I was in my parlour adjoining the shop—I heard a noise outside, ran out of the shop, and observed a pane broken in the window, I ran to the door, and was pointed a person running off about thirty yards from the shop—I pursued, and he was taken at the top of Wyeh-street—I had not lost sight of him—it was the prisoner—he was brought back to my shop—the hole in the window was large enough for a man to put his hand in—I lost 2lbs. weight of cheroots, and one bundle of cigars, worth 1l. 15s. in all—I had seen the glass perfect five minuted before.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Had you seen the cigars safe five minutes before? A. Yes—I looked at the glass myself from inside—I am certain it was not broken then—I saw the prisoner by the light of the gas—I saw his back then, but did not lose sight of him till he was stopped—I got closer to him as I went on.
ISSAC ABRAHAMS . I live with my father, in Holywell-street. On Saturday night I was knocking at myt father's door, which is aboput five yards from Innes's, and nearly opposite to it—I turned round and saw the prisoner put his hand in at the window, take out some cigars, and put them under his handkerchief—he walked off—I crossed over, and told Mr. Innes—he ran as fast as he could—I ran too—the prisoner was taken—I never lost sight of him—I picked up one cigar—I do not know what became of the rest.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you know him before? A. No—he had got about thirty yards when I told the prosecutor—I cannot say whether he took the cherrots—the cigars were in a bundle—I only saw him put his hand in once—he did it as I turned round.
FREDERICK DARTON . I am a police-man. I hears an alarm of "Stop thief" and found the prisoner in the prosecutor's custody—I took him to the house, and then to the station, searched him, and found this handkerchief in his hat, and two bits of leaves of cigars in the handkerchief—i returned to the spot where he was stopped, and picked up these thirteen cigars.
Cross-examined. Q. What size was the bundle of cherrots? A. Nearly as big as the face of my hat—a piece of glass was taken out and put on one side—the space was large enough to get them out—I have not found the cherrots.
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Fifteen Years.
First Jury, before Mr. Recorder.
JOHN SIMPSON ASHBRIDGE . I am a pawnbroker, and live in Broad-street, Ratcliffe—the prisoner was in my service. On Saturday, the 27th of May, I marked 5l. worth of silver, about two o'clock, and placed it in a separate portion of the till—it was examined between three and four o'clock by my foreman, and two half-crowns and two shillings were gone—the prisoner had been down into the shop between two and three, and swept the shop—he went to bed about one in the morning—he slept in the shop, and after he was asleep, I found in his trowsers' pocket 1l. 14s.—a half-crown and a shilling of it were marked—I awoke him, and told him I suspected he had been robbing me since he lived with me; that I had marked money, and missed some of it, and found 3s. 6d. of the marked money in his purse—I asked him to account for it—he said it was his own—I said if he liked to acknowledge it, I should set him at liberty, I did not want to injure him—I had produced the half-crown and shilling to him before he said it was his own—he said it had been given to him by his aunt—he had only been, five weeks with me, and received no wages.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. It was not till one o'clock in the morning that you and two men went to his pocket? A. No—I did not cuse him directly I missed it, as it was Saturday, and I had nobody to tab his place—I waited till business was over—the two men are not here—I had got an officer when I awoke him—the prisoner did not examine the money when he said it was his own—I called his attention to it, being marked.
WILLIAM KEELEY (police-constable K 165.) I was called to the prosecutor's about a quarter-past two o'clock, and found the prisoner in bed—two of the shopmen were also present—I found a purse with one sovereign, four half-crowns, four shillings, and a fourpenny-piece in his pocket—Mr. Ashbridge claimed a half-crown and a shilling of the money—the prisoner said his aunt gave him 1l. 6s. about a fortnight before to buy a watch, which he had not bought—he said nothing about the other money.
Cross-examined. Q. He was awoke out of his sleep? A. Yes.
MR. ASHBRIDGE re-examined. This is the marked money—nobody could have put it into the prisoner's pocket, for I was in the counting-house at the end of the shop, and saw him get into bed—nobody touched his pocket after he got into bed—the two young men were in the counting-house with me—the prisoner was left in the shop at meal times, with one young man—I had sent him out that afternoon.
MR. PAYNE called
CATHERINE RUSSELL . I am housekeeper to Mrs. Thornton, of Park-place, Regent's-park, and have been so three years—I have nineteen guineas a-year—the prisoner is my nephew—he used to call on me on Sunday—I gave him a shilling or half-a-crown now and then—he called in May—I had always promised to give him a watch—he told me his master had got one he would let him have—I gave him 1l. 6s. to buy it—I am a widow, and have no children.
MR. ASHBRIDGE re-examined. I did not search him when I missed the money—I was sure he had got it, for after I marked the money, I was in the counting-house, and saw him go to the till, and put his hand in—that was about four o'clock—I did not see him take the money, but he had no right at the till—I did not send for a policeman then, as I could not spare him—I
did not wish to prosecute him, but meant to send him about his business—I knew the money was in his pocket—I did not tell the Magistrate of his going to the till.
NOT GUILTY .
1748. CHARLES M'CARTHY and JANE M'CARTHY were indicted for feloniously assaulting Alice Cocklin, on the 13th of May, and cutting and wounding her, with intent to kill and murder her.—2nd COUNT, stating it to be with intent to do her some grievous bodily harm.
ALICE COCKLIN . I am the wife of Timothy Cocklin, and live in Nightingale buildings, Limehouse. The prisoners lodged with me, and left in Dec.—they owed me 8s. 3d.—I gave them leave to go—I met the male prisoner on Saturday, the 13th of May, about ten o'clock at night, and asked if he could spare me a little money—he said he had none about him, he had just given his wife 27s., and he had for the last five Saturday nights given her 27s.—I said he should pay me my money—he said if I called in half an hour his wife would be in—I went, and his wife had not come in—I met her within ten or twelve yards of her own door, and said, "Is that you, Mrs. M'Carthy?"—she said, "It is me, Mrs. M'Carthy,"using the words I had—I said I was just waiting for her—she said she did not expect I was waiting for her good—I said "No, nor for your harm, I have only come for a little money; your husband told me to call"—she said she did not care for her husband or me, she had no money to spare for me—I said, "Your husband told me he gave you 27s., and it is very strange you cannot give me a shilling"—she used some vulgar expressions—I went into her room—her brother sat by the fire—I thought it was her husband, and asked him if he could spare me any money, if he did not I should summon him on Monday—she then went to the stove, and took a saucepan, and as she took it up, she called her husband, Charley, twice—she came over with the saucepan, cut me over the head, using a bad expression, and said "I will pay you"—the second blow she gave me the saucepan cut me—I did not strike her at all—I put up my hand, and saved the third blow—his shut fist, and the blood gushed from the wound towards the partition that was in the room—I said, "You good-for-nothing wretches, I am getting my blood to suck for coming for my money"—it was trickling down my face—the man replied, "Yes,"he made use of a low word, hit me again, and with the third blow I fell—while I was down he kicked me several times on my body—I cried out "Murder"—my niece came in to save me—I became insensible—my husband and some neighbours came and fetched me away.
Charles M'Carthy. Q. On your oath did I tell you to come to my house for the money? A. Yes, in the course of half an hour—when you left my house you owed three weeks rent, at 1s. 9d. a week, and for three panes of glass, at 1s. each, which you broke—8s. 3d. was the debt—you paid me 1s. and 7s. 3d. was left owing—I was not tipsy—I had neither beer nor spirits in my lips—my husband was not tipsy, nor my niece.
Jane M'Carthy. Her niece was not there at all; she came and asked me for some money; I said I had no money; she asked for my husband; I said he was in bed; she went in with her niece before me, she began at me, called me a bad name, and hit me with a candlestick, and I hit her again in my own defence; I had a black eye when I was at Clerkenwell; I told her I had no money that night, I would give it her that night week. Witness. She said nothing of the kind—I never struck her with a candlestick, or any thing.
Charles M'Carthy. I only owed for one pane of glass, and half-a-crown for rent, 3s. 6d. altogether; my wife and her could not agree, and I
left for peace and quietness; in the course of some time she came to me for the money; I was at work all that week, day and night, and earned 30s. 5 1/2 d. I went to a public-house, and had some beer; my wife came in, and said Mrs. Cocklin had sent for some money; I gave her a sovereign, and three half-crowns; gave her a glass of gin, and told her to go home; I then went to another public-house, and had a pint of beer, gave my wife another glass of gin, and took home a pot of beer for the children; I then went out, and met Mrs. Cocklin and her niece both very drunk; she said, "Your wife has not paid me to night; I said, "I am very sorry for it, it is the best week I have had for seven years; I gave her plenty of money to pay, and she ought to pay you;"she said, "I will summons you for it on Monday; I went home, and went to bed; I did not tell her to come to the house; I was rather tipsy; I had not been long asleep when I heard a noise in the passage, my wife, Mrs. Cocklin, and her niece jawing each other; they came into my room, and Mrs. Cocklin said to my wife, "You bastard b----, if you don't pay me I will pay you;" she took up a candlestick, and my wife took the pot off the fire; the two women pitched into my wife; she sung out to me for mercy; I got up; my wife said, "Charley, these two women will murder me;" I got up, separated them, and shoved the two women into the passage; Mrs. Cocklin fell; she was so drunk she could not stand a bit, and I fell over her; she got up, scratched me, and tore my shirt off my back; I then went to bed again, and the policeman came, and took me; a man in the house saw her strike my wife the first blow; they were all xather tipsy.
CATHARINE COCKLIN . I am the prosecutrix's niece. I went with her on the 13th of May, and met the female prisoner—my aunt asked if she could spare her some money—she said, "No," she had none for herself—my aunt said it was very hard, for her husband had given her 27s., and she would summon her for the money—she used very improper words—my aunt went to the house—I went with her—my aunt told me to stop out—she went into the room with the female prisoner, who went to the bed and called "Charles"-she then took the saucepan off the stove, and hit my aunt several blows on the forehead—the male prisoner got out of bed and kicked my aunt several times when she was on the ground—I did not see him strike her—I do not know what caused her to fall—I went in, and said, "Pray don't murder my aunt "—he twirled his hand in my hair, pulled me into the passage, and kicked me several times in my left side—my aunt was in strong fits from twelve till three o'clock in the morning, and was taken to the hospital in about three quarters of an hour after—the doctor came about one, when my aunt was in her own house—my aunt was sober—a great quantity of blood came from her—she was a fortnight in the hospital. Charles M'Carthy. I never kicked her; she is always getting drunk; there was some grievance between these two women and my wife; and when they met her in the street, they would call her a w----e----the witness was pitching into my wife; it was an Irish row.
Witness. I never struck her.
Jane M'Carthy. The prosecutrix called me a b----h and w----e, and struck me with the candlestick. Witness. I did not hear that—I did not see a candlestick in my aunt's hand—I could see every thing that was done in the room.
HENRY BAIRD (police-constable K 158.) I was called to this house at a quarter to twelve o'clock—I found the prosecutrix in the passage in hysterics, and bleeding from the left side of her forehead a good deal—I saw a cut on the left side of her forehead—I knocked at the prisoner's door—it was opened—I asked the woman how she came to cut the prosecutrix's head—she said, "She struck me first"—I said, "How so?"—she said, "I owed her 2s.
or 3s.; because I would not pay her, she up with the candlestick and struck me"—I said, "Then you did strike her with the saucepan?"—she said, "Yes, I did"—I took them both into custody.
JOHN BRENCHLEY (police-constable K 214). I went to the house, and saw both prisoners there—the prosecutrix had been taken away—I saw her at her own house bleeding from the forehead, and in strong fits—she was taken to the hospital—I took the saucepan off the stove in the prisoner's room—there were several spots of blood on it and a dent—here is some hair on it now.
BERNARD EDWARD BRODHURST . I live in St. Helen's-place, and am a pupil at the London Hospital. The prosecutrix was brought there—there was a wound on the left side of her head—it appeared an incised wound on the scalp over the frontal bone—the skin was divided—she appeared to have lost a great deal of blood—her left side was bruised, and next day she had considerable difficulty in breathing, from a slight attack of pleurisy from the injury in the side—the edge of this saucepan might produce the wound in the forehead—she appeared to have had two or three blows.
Witnesses for the Defence.
DENNIS CONNELLY . I am the female prisoner's brother. Mrs. Cocklin came into the room and demanded 2s. 6d.—Mrs. M'Carthy said she had not got it till that night week, when she could have it—Cocklin said she should not wait—M'Carthy said, "Well you know the way to get it"—Cocklin said, "You b----of a w----e, I shall not wait, I shall get my money," and gave her a blow with her fist—there was a light in the candlestick on the table—Cocklin caught hold of it, and gave Mrs. M'Carthy a blow with it—the candle tumbled out and broke—I got hold of it, and went next door with it to get a light—there was only one candlestick on the table—candle shook out before the made the blow, and went out—the candlestick broke in the socket, but not the candle—it was made of tin—I kept the candle in my hand—I did not put it back into the candlestick, but held it in my hand till the police came—there was no candlestick when they came—I do not know what became of it—I was holding the candle when the policemen came to the door—I opened the door to them with it in my hand.
JOHN BRENCHLEY re-examined. The candlestick was on the shelf over the fire-place with the candle in it burning—it was not broken—I saw no broken candlestick—I saw this man sitting on a chair in the room when I went to the door, but not with a candle—he had no candle in his hand—the prisoners did not say then that they had been struck with a candlestick—the woman said so at the station.
HENRY BAIRD re-examined. I did not observe the candlestick at all—I think the light was on the table, but there were so many round there—I asked this witness if he saw the blow struck with the candlestick, and he said he knew nothing of it—I am certain of that—he said he did not wish to have any thing to do with it.
CHARLES M'CARTHY— NOT GUILTY .
JANE M'CARTHY— GUILTY of an Assault— Confined One Year.
NOT GUILTY .
OLD COURT.—Friday, June 16th, 1843.
Third Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.
1750. JAMES MORE was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Andrew Leathold, about ten in the night of the 1st of June, at St James's, Clerkenwell, with intent to steal, and stealing therein, 1 watch, value 3l., his goods; and that he had been before convicted of felony; to which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Ten Years.
1751. WILLIAM MORGAN, alias Thomas Williams , was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of June, at St. Pancras, 2 gowns, value 4l. 13s.; and 2 shawls, 17s.; the goods of Lucy Fox: and 7 pinafores, 10s.; and 1 petticoat, 9d.; the goods of Henry Wilkins Fox, in his dwelling-house; and that he had been before convicted of felony; to which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 25.— Transported for Ten Years.
CHARLES DEWEY . I live in Wiltshire. I have bad dealings in business with the prisoner's father—about the 20th of May I received this letter, purporting to come from Charles Kersley—I had previously received letters signed in the same way, and sent goods in consequence—in consequence of receiving this letter, I sent two cheeses and a flitch of bacon, by Humphreys, the carrier—I had never before received orders in this handwriting—I did not know the prisoner, and never sent any goods to his order.
CHARLES KERSLEY . I deal with Mr. Dewey—the prisoner is my son—he was not living with me about the 18th or 20th of May—he had been my from me about three months—this letter is not my writing, nor is the signature—I cannot write—when I used to send orders I got my wife to write for me—I never authorised the prisoner, or any one, to send this letter to Mr. Dewey, or to sign my name—I know his writing—this is not his writing—I met my son as I was going into Brentford—I took him in a cab to the turnpike, and showed him to the turnpike man, who said he was the young man that had been to redeem the cheese and bacon—I gave him into custody—as we went along in the cab, I asked if he knew anything about it—he said at first that he wrote the letter himself—he afterwards said he got the letter written at Farnham.
SAMUEL LANGLEY . On the morning of the 26th of May I was in charge of the turnpike—about three o'clock this cheese and bacon was left with me by Humphreys to deliver, on the carriage being paid—about seven the prisoner came and asked me if the bacon and cheese was there—I said, "Yes" and asked him what name was on the parcel—he told me, and the name corresponded—I said there was 18d. to pay for the carriage—he said, "Very well he would go and fetch it—about an hour afterwards his father brought him back in the cab.
JOHN HADDON . I am a policeman. The prisoner was given into my custody—on his way to the station, he said he did not care a d----about it, he did not get it under fraudulent pretences, it was under charitable pretences, and he could not get more than three months.
Prisoner's Defence. I said no such thing; I did not write the letter, nor
yet send it; I was sent by a man from near the new chapel, Brentford, to ask if there was a side of bacon in the name of Turner at the turnpike.
GUILTY of uttering. Aged 17.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Two Years.
Before Mr. Baron Gurney.
1753. ELIZABETH HANNAH SAUNDERS and JOHN SWEET were indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Alexander Ross, about two o'clock in the night of the 9th of June, at St. Pancras, with intent to steal, and stealing therein, 1 petticoat, value 2s.; 1 flannel waistcoat, 2s.; 4 towels, 6d.; and 8 stockings, 1s.; the goods of James Curtis; and that Saunders had been before convicted of felony.
LYDIA CURTIS . I am the wife of James Curtis, and occupy a parlour in the house of Alexander Ross, No. 13, Little Albany-street, Regent's Park, in the parish of St. Pancras—Ross lives in the house. Last Friday night I went to bed about a quarter to ten o'clock—I did not fasten the door—my ton came home after I was gone to bed—in the course of the night I heard a noise in the house—I did not get up then, but went to sleep again—I got up about a quarter before four in the morning, went into the passage, found the back door wide open, and the things stated gone—some had been on the line in the passage, and some in the yard behind the house—they were wet—the back door had been opened from within—it had been bolted.
JOHN CURTIS . I am the prosecutrix's son. I came home after my mother was in bed—I let myself in by a latch-key, and shut the door again—it was fastened by the latch only—I am sure I fastened it—I got up at four o'clock, being alarmed.
JOSEPH SKIDMORE . I am a policeman. Last Saturday morning, a little after two o'clock—I was on duty in Munster-street, Regent's Park, about 130 yards from the prosecutor's house—I saw the two prisoners turn out of Little Albany-street, in a direction leading from the prosecutor's house—they took the middle of the road, leading into Munster-street, side by side, apparently in company—as they came towards me they parted—Sweet went towards the New Road, and Saunders towards Bruton-street—on her pawing me I observed she had a bundle—I called to know what she had—she made no answer, but appeared to hurry on—I stepped after her, and said I must see what she had got—she said she would see me b----d first—I then took hold of her arm, and said I must see what she had—she immediately threw the bundle into the road—a cabman, who was passing at the time, picked it up, and put it under my arm—I was about conveying her to the station, when one of my comrades came up, and said there was a man with her—I said, "Yes, there he goes along the street, go and fetch him back again"—he was still in sight in Osnaburgh-street, which is in a line with Munster-street—another constable went in pursuit of him, while I took the female to the station—in going along I asked where she got the things—she said the man had given them to her—I asked what man—she said the man that the policeman had gone after—on getting to the station the prisoners denied all knowledge of each other—the bundle contained the articles stated, which were wet—in the morning, as I was coming along Munster-street, I saw a brother constable pick up this latch-key, in the very spot where the bundle had been thrown—he handed it to me—I afterwards tried it to the prosecutor's door, and it opened it.
EDMUND EASTGATE . I am a policeman. On the morning of the 10th of June, about half-past two o'clock, I was in Frederick-street, Regent's Park, and saw the two prisoners coming in a direction leading from Little Albany-street—the female had a bundle—Skidmore went up, and said, "Halloo, what
have you got there? let me see"—she would not let him see—he said, "I will see"—she said, "I will see you b----d first"—she shortly afterwards threw it into the road—I felt the things, and they were wet—Sweet went on towards the New Road—I went after him—I did not lose sight of him—I told him his wife wanted him—he said, "She is not my wife, I don't know anything of her"—I took him to the station, and the female there said she knew nothing of him.
Saunders's Defence. I had been out this evening, being holiday time, and went to the Sovereign, in the Regent's Park, and fell in company with a female, who said she had been out washing that day; we had some gin; while paying for it her shawl came off; she had these things in her apron, and handed them to me; her husband came in; they had a few words, and went out. I waited there till two o'clock, but she did not return. I went out into Little Albany-street, thinking I should meet her, but I did not. I left word with a person that I should be there next morning. I met the policeman, who asked me to let him look at the bundle; I threw it down, and said, "There it is." I did not know what to do with the things. Sweet knows nothing about it; he was in other company at the time. The woman and I parted because there was a cab between us.
Sweet's Defence. I know nothing of it whatever.
SAUNDERS— GUILTY . Aged 23.
SWEET— GUILTY . Aged 30.
Transported for Fifteen Years.
1754. WILLIAM MAWMAN BROWN was indicted for feloniously forging and uttering a bill of exchange for the payment of 132l. 3s. 6d., with intent to defraud Henry Nutting.—2nd Count, stating his intent to defraud William Coy and others.—3rd and 4th COUNTS, for uttering a forged acceptance to the said bill; the prisoner pleaded
GUILTY to the Third Count.— Transported for Twelve Years.
(There was another indictment against the prisoner.)
JOHN THOMPSON . I am a labourer. On the 11th of May I was at work on board the Duke of Cambridge steamer on the river Thames, off Alderman's stairs, on the Middlesex side, near St. Katherine's Dock—she had brought passengers and a cargo from Cork—the deceased was one of the labooren employed at work on board, discharging the cargo—near seven o'clock, after we had finished, the waterman who was employed by the Company, was not in attendance to put us ashore—the Duke of Cornwall, another steam-packet, was lying alongside—we crossed over the Duke of Cornwall to get inside, that we might get the chance of getting into a boat to go ashore—we got on to a deck barge that was moored alongside the Duke of Cornwall, when we perceived Buckley, one of the men who was at work with us, had got ashore in a boat—we hallooed out to him to bring off the boat to us, that we might get ashore also—Buckley brought off the boat to us, and we got into her—there was then about twelve of us together, and a boy—Lynn, the shipwright,
who had charge of the boat, objected to our getting into the boat—one of the men told him what a long time we were there, that we had not had dinner, that as our boat was not there, we had no other way of getting ashore, and then he allowed us to get into the boat—it was a good-sized boat, what is called a ship's boat—after we had got into the boat I saw the prisoner come to the fore gangway of the Duke of Cornwall, and call out to Davis, one of the men who was standing in the stern of the boat, to come out of the boat—I did not hear Davis make any reply—the prisoner then jumped down out of the fore gangway on to the deck barge, and said, "You b----s, I will show you the way [or the road] ashore"—he immediately leapt off the barge in among us, and the boat was upset—the force with which he came into the boat sank it, we were all precipitated into the water—I and some of the others swam ashore, others were picked up by the watermen, and Matthew Holland and John Buckley were drowned—I afterwards saw the body of Holland, when it was taken out of the river—I knew the prisoner before—he was acting as second mate on board the Duke of Cornwall.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. There were some carpenters at work on board the Duke of Cornwall? A. Yes; I and others were at work, discharging the cargo of the Duke of Cambridge—Lynn at first said we should not have the boat—he did not say that he should be fined, nor cry out two or three times to us—I was not the principal man in taking away the boat—I should think seven men were in the boat at the time I got in—I did not threaten to pitch Lynn overboard if he interfered, nor did I hear any one say so—Lynn spoke to us about not taking the boat before the prisoner made his appearance—he spoke loud enough for us to hear—he had no occasion to call out loudly, for he was right alongside of us—Lynn had left the Duke of Cornwall at the time the prisoner appeared, and run down on the deck bridge, I think to prevent our taking the boat.
Q. You say he consented to your taking the boat; what did he say? A. I did not hear him say anything; but Drynan, the man who asked him to allow ua to go in the boat, stood close to me—Lynn could have prevented our going into the boat if he had persevered; but after Drynan spoke to him, he immediately allowed us to go into the boat—he did not say anything—we had shoved off two or three feet from the barge at the time the prisoner called out—there was no way for him to get into the boat but by jumping in.
COURT. Q. Who did the boat belong to? A. To Mr. Walton, the matter of the carpenters who were working on board the Duke of Cornwall.
JAMES DRYNAN . I was working on board the Duke of Cambridge. In the evening there was no boat ready to take us ashore—we came across the Duke of Cornwall, and down on to a barge that was lying alongside—we saw a boat going ashore with two of our mates in her, and two or three other persons—we hallooed out to Buckley, who was one of them, to bring the boat off again, to take us ashore—we were from sixty to eighty feet from the shore—Buckley brought off the boat to us—Lynn told us the boat belonged to his employer, and if we took it ashore, his employer might be fined—I told him we were the persons that generally worked on board, that we would take the boat safe ashore, and leave her there, and there were some of the ship's crew ashore that would bring her off again—with that we got into the boat—Lynn seemed partly satisfied then with our taking the boat—at that time the prisoner appeared at the fore gangway of the Duke of Cornwall, and called out to Davis not to take the boat away—Davis made no reply—he then jumped from the fore gangway down on the hatches of the barge, and came in a hurried pace across the barge—we were then about three feet away from the side of the barge—he sung out, "You b----s, I will show you the road
ashore"—he jumped into the boat—we were all upset, and Holland and Buckley were drowned—I was nearly drowned myself.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Did Lynn call out loudly, to prevent your taking the boat? A. No, not very—I did not hear any one in the boat threaten to throw Lynn overboard—I heard no threats against his—I believe one or two of us were standing up in the boat at the time the prisoner jumped in—Davis was standing up, with the scull in his hand, going to scull us ashore, and there might be another, but I do not know rightly.
GEORGE DAVIS . I was on board the Duke of Cambridge—we called to Buckley to bring the boat, which he did—Lynn did not object to it in my hearing—we all got into the boat—she was deeply laden, but able to carry us—we were twelve and a boy, altogether—the prisoner called to me to bring the boat back, and told me I ought to know better—I did not make any reply—there was nothing more said at that time, and he jumped from the gangway on to the deck lighter, and said he would show us the road ashore—from there he jumped right into the boat, among the people, and capsized her momentarily—we were all thrown into the water.
Cross-examined. Q. Why did you take the boat when you heard him call out to you? A. I had no more authority to take it than the rest—we all took it together.
JOHN LYNN . I was on board the Duke of Cornwall. I am foreman joiner, to Mr. Walton—this boat belonged to him—she was attending the ship on my own account, only for me, as foreman of the men—these men came across from the Duke of Cambridge across the Duke of Cornwell—I heard them make a noise—they hailed the boat, which had been put ashore unknown to me, to bring her back to take them ashore—I said, "You shall not have this boat; it belongs to me; you will have me fined for taking her away"—they threatened to throw me overboard—I called out they should not have her—they shoved the boat from the shore to the barge—she was ashore at that time—I ran down to the main gangway, got into a barge, and into a lug-boat, to get hold of the boat, so as they should not have her—they all jumped into the boat, I calling out, at the same time, that I should be fined—they shoved the boat off about two feet, and the prisoner, hearing me come to the fore gangway, made a spring on to the barge, and another spring into the boat—he could not stop himself—it was all done at once—the boat) went over altogether, and they all went into the water.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. The prisoner was among them in the water? A. Yes, he swam to the shore—a man was going to pitch into him, and he was obliged to swim back again—he told me that he had picked up one man.
GUILTY. Aged 31.—Strongly recommended to mercy, — Confined One Month.
MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.
JOHN CROKER PENNELL . I reside at the Dock-yard, Portsmouth; I am the indorsee of this bank post-bill; it is indorsed to me by my father. On the 6th of May I was staying in London—I received the bill from my father by post—on the same day I lost it from my pocket as I was going from Charter-house school to the west-end—I do not know how lost it—the name, "John
Croker Pennell," subscribed to the indorsement of my father, is not my writing—I never authorized any one to subscribe my name to it.
Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN. Q. How did you carry it? A. Loose in my waistcoat pocket—I think I lost it by accident.
FREDERICK SKERRATT . I am in the employ of Mr. John Parnett Boll, a woollen-warehouseman, in St. Martin's-lane. The prisoner has been in the habit of making purchases for ready money as a tailor—I did not know his address—we do not take the addresses of persons who buy for ready money—on the afternoon of the 8th of May he came to our shop with this bank post bill for 20l., and wished to know if we could take it of him—I looked at it, and found it was drawn to the order of William Pennell, Esq., and specially indorsed by him in favour of John Croker Pennell—I said, "This bill, in its present state, is useless to anybody; it will be necessary for John Croker Pennell to put his name on the back of it before it can be taken"—he said, "Very well, I will get Mr. Pennell to do so"—he went away—he came at four o'clock next afternoon, and brought the same bill with him—he spoke to Dickens, the foreman—shortly after, this bill was sent to me by the cashier-it then bore the indorsement of John Croker Pennell, as it appears now—at that time I had no knowledge of this instrument having been lost—I did not receive any intimation till the Saturday after it was due—I then saw an advertisement in the Times newspaper, stating that this bill had been lost—it was paid by us into Smith and Payne's, and returned to us the same day—in consequence of what I found on the note, "Coles, 21, Great Smith-street," I went to that address on the Saturday afternoon—I could not find the prisoner there—I saw the person who I believe keeps the house—she said he had never lived there—I have not seen the woman here—in consequence of further information, on Wednesday, the 17th of May, I accompanied the police-sergeant Weston to the Warwick Arms, at the corner of Gillingham-street, Pimlico—I went with the constable into the parlour—I saw several people there, and, among others, a person I believed at first sight to be Coles; but at the time I went into the room he was sitting with his back to me—he put his hand over his face, and remained so for a quarter of an hour—I could not catch sight of his face, and was not positive of him—alter that he put both his hands over his face, and remained so equally long—from a conversation going on in the room he was caused to laugh, and in doing so he raised his face from his hands, and immediately he did that I recognized him—I told the officer that was him—Weston left the room and went into the passage of the house—immediately he left the room the prisoner got up from the table, and appeared to be doing the same—I immediately rose up, opened the door, and got out before him—when in the passage I said, "Mr. Coles"—he made no answer—I said, "Your name is Mr. Coles"—he said, "No, it is not," and he pushed by into the street—it was raining very fast at the time—he appeared as though he wished to make off—I told the officer he was the man—he said, "Are you positive it is him?"—I said, "I am"—he said to him, "We want you respecting a bill you passed to Messrs. Bull and Wilson for 20l. with a forged indorsement"—he said, "I know nothing about the bill"—I said, "It is no use saying you know nothing about it, because I am the person to whom you spoke at the time"—he immediately said with a great deal of surprise, "Oh, are you the person?"—I said, "Oh, then, you do know something about the bil"—the policeman said, "Well, then, it has a forged indorsement of John Croker Pennell attached to it"—he said, "I know nothing about it; I saw Mr. Pennell put his name on the back of it."
about four o'clock in the afternoon, the prisoner came to the warehouse and wanted to look at woollen goods—I showed him some—he hought to the amount of 6l. 6s. 4d.—after the bill was made out, he tendered me a 20l. Portsmouth branch-note—this is it; it has my signature—he said it came direct from Portsmouth—I handed it to the cashier—he handed it to another clerk—at that time it had the name of John Croker Pennell on it—I requested the prisoner to put his name and address on it—I saw him do so—it was Joseph Coles, 21, Great Smith-street—I saw our cashier give him the difference—I was not there the first time he came.
FREDERICK SKERRATT re-examined. He spoke to Mr. Bull first—I did not hear what passed between them—Mr. Bull brought him into the counting-house to me—I did not hear him say that he wished to know whether he could safety take such an instrument, as he was ignorant of such matters; nor anything of the kind—Mr. Bull is not here—I found that the prisoner was not know at Great Smith-street—the woman said she knew him, but he did not live there—he was known there—it was a marine store shop, kept by a Mrs. Cannadine—I said to her, "Does Mr. Coles live here?"—she said. "No"—I said, "Do you know where he lives?"—she said, "No"—I said, "I am surprised at that, because this is the address Mr. Coles has given as being his; did he ever live here?"—she said, "No"—I said, "Do you know him?"—she said, "Yes, I know him, and he has occasionally slept here with my brother"—I said, "I wish to see him on particular business; can you tell me where I can find him, any house he is working at, or any person in whose employ he is?" and she could not tell me.
GEORGE WESTON (police-sergeant F 6.) I took the prisoner outside the Warwick Arms public-house. I went with Mr. Skerratt—I heard him ask him whether his name was Coles—he said, "No"—I looked at Mr. Skerratt, and said, "Is this the man you want?"—he said, "That is the man"—I then told him I wanted him respecting the 20l. bank post bill he passed to Messrs. Bull and Wilson's the other day—he said he knew nothing at all about the bill—I then heard Mr. Skerratt say, "It is no use saying that, for I am the person you presented it to"—I then told him I wanted him for the forged name of Pennell on the back of the bill—he said, "I saw Mr. Pennell write it myself"—I then took him into custody.
Cross-examined. Q. You were not in your uniform? A. I was not—I searched him, and found a paper about him, referring to the Court of Requests, which is called an execution—(the bank post bill was here read.)
MR. BODKIN called
----CANNADINE. My husband is a plane and tool-maker, we lives at No. 21, Great Smith-street, Westminster. I have lived there twenty years and nine months—I have known the prisoner by name some years—I have known him two years—he has been carrying on the business of a tailor—he lived in my house, and had a most excellent character.
COURT. Q. You keep a marine-store shop? A. No, a broker's, because our trade is bad—the prisoner has been on and off at our house up to the present period, not always—he lived in my house at the very time in question—I did not deny him, I only evaded the questions, as he had failed in business and was in difficulties—he lived in Vincent's-square, Westminster, eighteen months or two years since, and he has lived as foreman with a high tailor, but the gentleman could not come to-day—I know he lived in the neighbourhood, I do not know exactly where—I do not know how often he has slept at our house in the last six months—more than a week, more than six or seven.
(Richard Cannadine, the husband of last witness; John Parry, tailor, Westminster;
and James Pearce, dealer in coal and wood, No. 11, St. Ann-street, Westminster, also gave the prisoner a good character.)
GUILTY of Uttering. Aged 34.— Transported for Twelve Years.
1757. GEORGE BAKER was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Frederick Whiting, on the 11th of May, at St. Marylebone, and stealing therein, 2 watches, value 10l.; 3 seals, 1l. 10s.; 2 watch keys, 8s.; 1 half-crown, 5 shillings, and 1 sixpence; the goods of Isabella Setwell: and CHARLOTTE DUTTON , for feloniously receiving the said 2 watches, 3 seals, and 2 watch keys, well knowing them to have been stolen; against the Statute, &c.
ISABELLA SETWELL . I am a widow, and lodge at No. 16, Queen-street, Edgeware-road, in the house of Frederick Whiting, who lives in the house. I have the front room at the top of the house on the third floor—the prisoner Baker lodged in the next room to me—on Thursday, the 11th of May, I left my room about half-past eight o'clock in the morning—I locked the door—I returned about eight o'clock at night, found the door closed, but not locked—it had been forced open—I missed from my drawers 8s. in silver, and some silver from another drawer, also a gold repeater and a silver watch, which were safe when 1 went out—they were locked in a drawer, but the keys were in the drawer where the silver was—the prisoner did not return to his lodgings that night, nor did he ever return—I saw him next on the Tuesday night following in custody.
EDMUND CALLAHAN . I am a policeman. On Friday night, the 12th of May, I went to No. 20, Steven-street, Lisson-grove—the female prisoner lodged there, and was in the room at the time with several other girls—they appeared to be quarrelling—I asked what was the matter, and a girl who was there said it had nothing to do with me—I said, "It has something to do with me; what watches are those you have been quarrelling about?" (I had heard something about watches) the female prisoner said, "It is two watches I have pawned for a young man who slept with me last night"—I said, "Where is the young man now?"—she said he was gone out—I asked where she had pledged them—she said, "One at Fairland's, Lisson-grove, and the other at Alexander's, in Church-street"—I took her to the station—this was about nine o'clock—she was not detained, as we did not know whether the watches were stolen, but next morning I heard Mrs. Setwell had lost some—I went with Mrs. Setwell to the pawnbrokers—she saw the watches, and claimed them—on Tuesday night, about nine o'clock, I met Baker in James-street, Lisson-grove, collared him, and said he must go with me to the station—he directly made a rush to get from me—I said, "You cannot get away"—he said, "What do want me for?"—I said, "For stealing two watches and some money and gold keys from Queen-street, where you lodged"—he said, "I don't know any thing about them"—we went on towards the station—on the way he said, "I am very sorry for what I have done, and I got but very little by it"—I took him to the station, and he said he gave the watches to a female to pawn for him—next morning I took the female prisoner again—the house is in the parish of St. Marylebone.
CHARLES HENRY LAWES . I am shopman to Mr. Fairland, pawnbroker, Lisson-grove. I produce a silver watch pawned by the female prisoner on the 11th of May in the afternoon, in the name of Ann Clifford, for 10s.—I had seen her before.
THOMAS CALVER . I am shopman to Mr. Alexander, a pawnbroker. I have a gold watch pawned by the female prisoner on the 12th of May for 16s.—she asked either 15s. or 16s.—I asked her whose it was—she said it
was her husband's—I asked where she lived—she said, "At 15, Princes-street"—I said, "Is it your own?"—she said, "It is my husband's; if you don't like it give it me back"—I said, "If it is your own that is every thing"—this was in the morning.
MRS. SETWELL. I have examined these watches—they are both mine.
EDMUND CALLAHAN re-examined. I apprehended the female prisoner six or seven minutes' walk from Princes-street—I was present at the examination before the Magistrate—I heard the examination taken, and saw it taken down and signed by the Magistrate—it was read over to them both—this is it—(read) The prisoner Baker being asked if he wished to say any thing, says, "No"—the prisoner Dutton says, "I was told to say they were my husband's by this young man; I was with a friend, about four o'clock on Thursday afternoon, when I saw him; he beckoned us to him; we went to him, and asked him for something to drink; he said he had no money, he had a watch, and pulled two watches from his pocket, and said if I would pledge them we should have what we liked to drink; I asked if they were his; he said they were his own, and told me to say they were my husband's; he had tea, and took us to the play, and he staid all night; next morning he had no money, and asked me to pledge the gold watch; he took his oath it was his, and asked me to ask 30s.; I asked only 1l., but they lent only 15s.; I gave him the money; he gave me 5s., half-a-crown for me and half-a-crown for my friend; I am quite innocent."
Dutton's Defence. Between four and five o'clock in the afternoon I was standing at the door with a young man; we saw this young man; he beckoned to us; we went to him, asked him to give us something to drink; he said he had no money, but had a watch, if I would pledge it he would do every thing we required; I said, "Is it your own?" he said, "Yes;" I said, "Are you sure of it?" he said, "Yes," taking an oath; I asked him in doors; he came in, pulled out the watches; I said again, "Are they ycur own?" he said, "Yes" they were; he gave me the silver one to go and pawn; I asked what I should ask for it; he said 1l.; I asked 15s.; they lent me 10s.; I came home, and gave him the ticket; he gave me half-a-crown; we went to the play, came home, and in the morning he asked me to go and pledge the other watch; I asked if it was his own; he said it was; I went and asked for 1l.; they said they would lend me 15s.; I said it would not do, and they lent me 16s.; I brought it to him, and he gave me 5s.
(Daniel Faulkener, of Horseferry-road, Westminster; William Baker, the prisoner Baker's uncle, and Mary Baker, his aunt; gave him a good character.)
BAKER— GUILTY . Aged 17.
DUTTON— GUILTY . Aged 24.
Confined Twelve Months.
1758. GEORGE FARMER was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Francis Mason, about twelve in the night of the 24th of April, at St. Pancras, with intent to steal, and stealing therein, 1 box, value 2s.; 1 watch, 10l.; 1 watch-guard, 1s.; 20 sixpences, 90 groats, 600 pence, and 1200 halfpence, his property.
FRANCIS MASON . I keep the Olive Branch, Gray's Inn-road, in the parish of St. Pancras. On the night of the 24th of April, I went to bed at half-past eleven or twelve o'clock—I was the last person up—the house was quite safe and fast—I got up a little before seven, found the front door unfastened, and the back door leading into the yard broken open from the outside—I went into my bar, and found my copper drawer on the ground, with about 2l. of small silver taken out, and a deal box, containing about 5l. in halfpence, also gone—I missed a watch from a drawer in the sitting-room, and a few spoons
—I got information, went and found my watch in pawn in Paradise-row, Lambeth—I found a bricklayer's chisel on the tap-room table, close to the door which was broken open—I fitted it to the marks—it appeared to have been done with that—the front door was opened from inside.
WILLIAM HOSSACK . The prisoner came to me on the 8th of May, and offered me the duplicate of the watch, chain, and rings—he said he was hard up, he bad been out of a situation a long time, and wished me to buy them—I said I did not like to buy such things—he asked me to lend him money on them, and asked me to go and look at them—he left me the ticket—I had it from Wednesday till Thursday—I then heard the things had been stolen from Mason, and informed him—I returned the ticket to the prisoner.
Prisoner's Defence. I was at the house on Monday, the 24th of May; I called in there on going home; two other persons were taken into custody on the same charge. I drank with them, and went off home. I did not know anything of the robbery. The watch was given to me in Lambeth-walk to pawn, by a person named Webb.
GUILTY . Aged 27.
1759. BENJAMIN THOMAS was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of May, at Paddington, 1 watch, value 7l.; 1 ribbon, 2d.; and 1 key, 2d.; the goods of Robert Link, in the dwelling-house of Aaron Goldsmid.
ROBERT LINK . I live with Mr. Aaron Goldsmid, at No. 10, Southwick-street, Hyde-park, in the parish of Paddington. On the 31st of May, Leathart brought the prisoner to the door, saying he had been in at the bottom of the house, and took something from the bottom of the house, he did not know what—his hand was in his pocket—he brought him into the house, desired him to take it out, and when he took it out of his pocket, I saw it was my watch—the prisoner gave it into my hands, and said, "Oh, pray forgive me, for my father's and mother's sake"—it had been in the pantry, to which he could get by coming down the urea, and entering the house.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Did you see him take the watch out of his pocket? A. Yes—I am quite sure of it—I did not know him before.
JOSEPH DAVIES LEATHART . On the 31st of May I was coming down towards my home in Oxford-terrace, and saw the prisoner and two companions near Mr. Goldsmid's house—their manner excited my suspicion—I watched them some time—when they passed the house they looked down the area and repassed—at the bottom of Oxford-terrace one of them tried the area gate—I followed them round two or three streets into Southwick-street—I saw the prisoner's companion go to the gate of No. 10, open it, and go down—the prisoner and the other were on the opposite side higher up—I parsed when the first man was down the area, and saw somebody in the kitchen
answering him—he came up, and joined the prisoner and the other in Oxford-square, where they had some conversation—the prisoner returned, went down the area of No. 10, the same house, and in a few minutes I came towards the house—when I got within two or three doors of the house the prisoner came up—the moment I got opposite him I stopped him, and said, "What have you got?"—he said, "Nothing"—I touched his side pocket, which stuck out—I called to stop the other two, but they got away—a person came to my assistance—the prisoner put his hand into his right hand pocket—I saw he wanted to take something out—I clasped him round, and took him back to the house—when we got to the parlour he pulled out a watch, gave it to the butler, fell on his knees, and begged him to forgive him, as it would be hard for his mother—I went for a policeman.
Cross-examined. Q. How is it you have not got into the police yet? A. I have got very good recommendations—I am a house decorator—I have been a witness here very often—one of the other boys was about the prisoner's age, and the other rather older.
ROBERT LINK . This is my watch—I gave eight guineas for it on the 17th of Nov.—the area gate was not fastened—I do not know whether the door was open at the time, but it was a quarter of an hour before.
Cross-examined. Q. Where did you buy it? A. At Mr. Purvis's, North Audley-street—it is a patent watch—I would not take 7l. for it.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Transported for Ten Years.
1760. JOHN JARVIS was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Elizabeth Negus, on the 28th of May, at Edmonton, and stealing therein, 6 pence, 60 halfpence, and 6 farthings, her monies.
ELIZABETH NEGUS . I am a widow, and live in Fir-lane, Edmonton. On the 28th of May I left my house about half-past two o'clock in the afternoon-I locked and bolted the doors, and left every thing safe—I returned about eight o'clock or five minutes after—I found my shop door still locked—I opened it, came in, and had occasion to go at once to the wash house—I found the door still locked, but the key which I had left outside was inside—I felt alarmed, and made my way as quick as I could through the room adjoining my shop—I trod on a large nail, which I picked up, and which I am sure was not time when I went out—I proceeded to the stable, which adjoins the house, and found a door wide open which I had left bolted—a wall ten or eleven feet high separates the stable from the washhouse, at the top of which is a wooden partition, thirteen or fourteen feet high—a hole was broken in the partition, which would enable a person to get into the coal-house, and into the house—the broken boards were lying on the coals—the lock of the door which opens from the washhouse into the shop was forced back—I missed from the shop about sixty halfpence, six penny pieces, and some farthings—part of the halfpence were in the till, and part wrapped in paper, on the shelf behind a thread and cotton-box, out of which I had paid the prisoner 3 1/2 d. on the Saturday night, and replaced it there again while he staid in the shop—he worked for me—it was concealed by the box—no one would have thought of looking there—the prisoner had been three times in my service—he looked after the horse and went on errands—I picked up a knife near the washhouse-door, which the prisoner used in cleaning the shoes with, and which was kept in a dark shed behind some blacking bottles—no one used that knife but him and me—the nail that I picked up had been taken out of a toolbox, and to get at that he had to move two baskets of wood, which stood on a tub of sand, and no stranger would have thought of doing that.
HANNAH ADAMS . I live next door but one to Mrs. Negus. On the 28th of May, between six and seven o'clock in the evening, I saw the prisoner against Mrs. Negus's rattling the back door—I Accused him of trying to open it, and told him Mrs. Negus was not at home—he said, "Very well," and went away.
GEORGE DAVIS . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner on the night of the 28th of May—I found him in bed at his father's house—I found 4d. in halfpence sown up in his watch-pocket—I told him he was charged on suspicion of robbing the house of Mrs. Negus—he denied all knowledge of it—he afterwards pulled out a farthing, and said, "This is all I have got, I spent the remainder"—I asked how much more he had spent—he said, "A penny"—he afterwards said he had lost the remainder out of his pocket—he said he pushed back the lock with the nail that was picked up in the parlour.
Prisoner. I am sorry that I did it.
GUILTY. Aged 16.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury and Prosecutrix.
Confined Three Months.
1761. MARY ANN BRENNAN and ANN THACKER were indicted for feloniously assaulting William Menceforth, on the 1st of June, putting him in fear, and taking from his person and against his will, 1 sixpence and 2 pence, his property, and feloniously beating, striking, and using other personal violence to him.
WILLIAM MENCEFORTH . I am a tailor, and live in Star-court. On the 1st of June between eleven and one o'clock in the night, I was in Plumber-street, St. Giles, taking a walk after my work—the prisoner Brennan came up to me, complained of being very badly off, said she had no candles or firing, and would I give her a halfpenny to buy a candle with—I gave her one—she did not leave me—presently Thacker came up with a key in her hand—she said she was her sister—she complained of being very badly off, and asked if I would come borne with them—I said I had no objection, and we went home—we did not stop long in the house, for I said we would take a walk out, and I would treat them with something to eat and drink—we went to the public-house at the corner of Plumber-street, had three pints of porter and a quartern of gin—we returned home in a short time with a pot of porter—something took place between us—they then demanded some money—I gave them 1s. 7d.—I then wished to go home—they said I should not go out of the house without I gave them more money—(I had three sovereigns, half-a-crown, two shillings, and some coppers in my possession when I returned to the house)—I said I thought I had given them enough, and wanted to go home—they began ill-using me, and pulled me about—Thacker told Brennan to bold me tight—she then went into an adjoining room, and brought in a man about five feet six high—he had a cloth in one hand and a weapon in the other—Brennan got me into the corner—the candle was blown out, and the man came towards me—he put the cloth up to my mouth, and the weapon before my face—one girl held me very tight, while the other picked my pocket of two pence and a sixpence—the cloth stopped my breath—I got the weapon away from my mouth as well as I could, and in doing so cut three fingers—I made an alarm as well as I could, and made a little escape from the corner I was in—they tore my coat in my getting away—I seized a quart pot, and perhaps hit the man—he gave way a little—I went into the adjoining room—the girls pulled my coat-skirt off—I received a kick and a blow on my shoulders, which I have not recovered, and a blow on the left side of my face—I held the door as well as I could, the girls pulling me back—I was almost exhausted—when I got to the stair-case I got hold of the landing—it was on the second pair—the girls still kept hold of me, till I saw the policeman
coming up stairs—the man escaped—I said, "For God's sake, policeman, do come here, I shall be murdered!"—I could hardly stand at the time—he asked what was the matter—I was a good while before I could tell him—I only lost 2d. and 6d.—I saved my three sovereigns and a half-crown—it was in an inside pocket, which they did not get at—the policeman took the prisoners.
Brennan. He is speaking falsely about the man; there was no man at all; he took up a tea-cup to heave at me, hit it against the wall, and cut his hand with it; the policeman saw it broken; he shoved me against the bed, and said he would knock my d----d b----d eye out. Witness. I am sure the man did come in and do as I have said; I never touched a tea-cup; when the policeman came in, I had a quart pot in my hand, and if there had been a knife, I should have used it.
EDWARD HARRIS . I am a policeman. I heard cries of "Murder," and "Police," in Buckeridge-street, St. Giles's—I went upstairs, and met the prosecutor on the stairs with a quart pot in his hand—he said, "For God's sake, police, come, or I shall be murdered"—I returned with him into the room, and, saw the two prisoners in the middle of the room—it was in a state of confusion—he said they had been ill-using and robbing him, and I took them—I saw nothing of the man—I produce the coat the prosecutor had on.
Brennan's Defence. He shoved me against the bed; I hallooed out, "Murder" and "Police;" he took up the quart pot to hit me and Thicks; and she received a blow on her right arm; she showed it to the Magistrate—I tried to get the pot out of his hand, when he took a tea-cup and attempted to heave at me, and cut his hand against the wall—he was to give us hal-a-crown; he would not give it me; he aaid he had given us enough in beer and gin.
Thacker's Defence. He never gave us a farthing, only a 1d.
BRENNAN— GUILTY . Aged 27.
THACKER— GUILTY . Aged 21.
Of an Assault.— Confined Twelve Months.
Fourth Jury, before Mr. Recorder.
MR. DOANE conducted the Prosecution.
ARMAND LOUIS MALHERBE . I live in Regent-street, and am a dealer is lace. On Friday, the 25th of May, between five and six o'clock in the evening, the prisoners came into my shop to look at some lace—I showed then some, which I took out of boxes, and pot on the counter—they both looked at it, and asked the price—it was 1l. a yard—I showed them some lower—they chose some which came to 5s. 6d.—Allen gave me 6s.—I gave her 6d.—I went to my desk for the 6d., leaving my son three or four feet from them—when I returned with the 6d. I saw Green stoop towards the floor, as if picking up something—I gave them the 6d.—they left the shop in a moment—after they were gone I missed three or four pieces of superior lace, and others not so expensive, between thirty or forty yards in all, worth 15l. or 20l.—I directly went to look for them, but could not see them—I gave information to the police—on Thursday, the 1st of June, the prisoners came again, and asked to look at some cuffs, which I showed them, and then some lace—they said I had sold them some cheap lace last week at 18d.—the other
said, "You make a mistake, It it three weeks ago," and that they bought the lace of the boy—I then looked at them more particularly, and believe they were the same women—one of them seemed confused—one stopped for the change, and the other walked out—immediately after the last went out, my wife spoke to me, and sent the setvant after them—I also went, and saw them together, get into an omnibus, and seeing my servant was in the omnibus, I left—while I was serving them, Margaret Thomas, my assistant, came down stairs, and asked me to leach her a bonnet—while I was reaching it I left her to attend to them.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. How long were they in the shop on the 1st of June? A. About ten minutes.
MARGARET THOMAS . I am the prosecutor's assistant. On the 25th of may, between five and six o'clock, I came down into the shop, and saw the prisoners there—master went to the window to reach me a bonnet—I showed the prisoners some lace while he was getting the bonnet—I laid three pieces of wide lace on the counter—I went np stairs, and afterwards heard it was lost.
Cross-examined. Q. When did you near of their being taken? A. I saw them in the shop again that day week, the 1st of June, but did not speak to them—I saw them in custody the same evening at the office.
MR. DOANE. Q. Had you a doubt of their being the women? A. I knew their persons—I believe they are the same.
EMILE MALHERBE . I am the prosecutor's son. On the 25th of May I was in the shop part of the time the prisoners were there—my father went to his desk to get change, and timed his back to them—while he turned, he said something to me—I looked at the prisoners, saw one of them stoop and take something off the floor—I thought it might be her handkerchief—I went up stairs, and soon after heard the lace was gone—there were no other customers.
Cross-examined. Q. I suppose you heard you father had taken up two persons for robbing him? A. Yes—I saw them at the office, and believe them to be the women—one of them had a blue dress, the other a straw bonnet—I think the prisoners are the women—I did not pay partcular attention to their featuress.
MARY BLANDINT . I am the prosecutor's servant. On the 1st of June, by order of my mistress, I followed the prisoners out of the shop, into Oxford-street, where they got into an omnibus—I also got in—they got but Edgeware-road—I followed—they went into a public-house in a street leading from Edgeware-road—I waited till they came out—they then went into Star-street, knocked at a door, then came from there, and Green asked if I was following her—I said, "No, not particularly," and asked why—she said, because I had got into the omnibus with them, and had followed them since—they afterwards got into a cab—I called after it—a policeman stopped it, and they were taken.
NOT GUILTY .
1763. THOMAS DOLTON was indicted for felonionsly assaulting John Bolsover, on the 27th of May, and cutting and wounding him on the head, with intent to kill and murder him.—Four other COUNTS, stating his intent to be to main and disable, to do grievous bodily harm, and to prevent the priner's lawful apprehension and detainer.
MESSRS. DOANE and WYLDE conducted the Presecution.
of May, I was stationed at Tottenham, and had occasion to go to the Wagon and Horses inn about twelve o'clock—I saw seven or eight men coming out of the house, very disorderly and riotous—the prisoner, also Champkin, and Coleman, were among them—I ordered them away—they would not go away—I said it was after twelve o'clock—they were kicking up a disturbance, and using bad language—I said, "Come, you chaps, you must go off home; I cannot have you making a disturbance here"—they said they would not go, and used bad language—Champkin said he would not go, and used bad language—hes said, "Who the b----h—are you? you might be some one"—I was in my uniform—I then ordered Coleman on, and he then used bad language—he still remained there—all three of them, the whole of them remained—I then told Dolton to go—he said, in a sneering way, to the others, "Why the b----h—don't you, chaps, go home?"—there were seven or eight of them—they I had come out of the Castle—he then turned himself round, as if he was going to walk away, stepped a pace or two back, put his hand into his pocket, and drew something out, struck me on the top of my head, and knocked me senseless—here is my hat—it struck through my hat before it touched my head—there were no holes in my hat previously—there are two now—Elizabeth Coleman caught me when I fell—I do not recollect receiving more than one blow, I became insensible from the first blow, but I must have received three on my head after that—when I came to my senses I found my head cut, and my face all covered with blood—I had this handkerchief in my hat at the time, and it was all over blood, which came from my head—the hat was also stained with blood inside—I went up Tottenham, about thirty or forty yards, to the turnpike, and saw Sergeant Guy and Sinclair coming down—I have suffered very much from the blows I received—I was confined to my bed for a fortnight—I am not able now to perform duty.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. When the men came out of the house they were very drunk and riotous, were they? A. They were not very drunk, they were the worse for liquor—I know that the prisoner's words, "Why the b----h—don't you go," were addressed to the other persons, and not to myself, because he said it in a sneering way—he had no business to sneer at me—I told him civilly to go away—the men were shoving one another about, cursing and swearing, and using very disgusting language—they had just come out of the public-house—they were not injuring any one—there were some persons going by at the time—I do not know who they were—they were not larking, they were making & disturbance—if I had not ordered them away they, would have got to fighting—I told them three or four times to go on—I never had any quarrel or dispute with the prisoner—I knew him.
ELIZABETH COLEMAN . I live in Wagon and Horses-lane, Tottenham. On Saturday night, the 27th of May, I went to the top of the lane to look after my son, who I believed was there—when I got there I saw my son, Bolsover, and the prisoner—I saw the prisoner strike Bolsover—I did not see what with, only his hand—before that I heard the policeman say, "Move on, three or four different times—when he was struck he fell on me, as I stood sideways, and caught hold of me to save himself from going on the ground—he clung to me—I was alarmed and called, "Murder" three times—somebody came to his assistance, and I went home directly—I looked at my arm where he had laid hold of me, and found one or two spots of blood on it, and also one or two spots of blood on my gown.
Cross-examined. Q. When you got to the Wagon and Horses had the persons got out or not? A. They had, and my son was standing in the lane—I heard nothing pass between him and the policeman—I did not get near
them till he was speaking to the prisoner—I do not know what the prisoner is—he works at anyting he can get to do—his mother lived two or three doors from me—he did not live with her—I do not know where he lived—I have known him from a child—I do not know that he was working for Mr. Warrington, a coal-merchat—I have seen him carry sacks for some one—he was not a particular acquaintace of my son's—they used to associate together at times—my son is a bricklayer's labourer—they used to associate together Castle—I never heard of the prisoner being in trouble before.
GEORGE GUY (police-sergeant N 40.) On the night of the 27th of May I was near the Wagon and Houses, and saw Bolsover all over blood, face, neck, and clothes—I saw a wound at the side of his eye—he described the person who had done it—I went with him to Mr. Hall, a surgeon, who dressed the wounds and ordered him to bed.
GEORGE LORD. I keep the Wagon and Horses public-house. The prisoner and some other men had been drinking at my house on the night in question—I had part of an old poker, which I kept in the tap-room fire-place—I saw it there that morning, and next morning found it was gone—this now produced is it.
CATHERINE CHAMPKIN . I am a widow and live in Wagon and Horses-lane, Tottenham. On the 27th of May, after I was in bed, my son came home—he came up stairs to me—I heard the voice of somebody below—I he should not stay there—he took off his coat, and told me to take it up stairs—I said I should not, he must take it away—I was going to open the street door to tell him to go out—he said, "Don't open the door, the bl—y policemen are in the lane"—I did not open it, but went up to bed—I afterwards heard somebody leave the house—he called to me just before to come down and lock the door—I went down, and he was gone—early nest morning the policeman came and found the poker and jocket—it was not my poker—I never saw it before.
Cross-examined. Q. Your son was taken up? A. Yes—I gave evidence, and he was discharged.
RICHARD SINCLAIR (police-constable N 321.) On Sunday morning, the 28th, I went to Mrs. Champkin's to apprehend her son—I found this poker and fustian coat there—I afterwards took the prisoner from Tottenham station to Edmonton—on the way he called to some persons standing on the Nursery-bridge, "The policeman is dying, Sinclair shall be the next"—he looked at me, and said, "If I get over this I will do for you," or "kill you," I am not certain which—he called out so several times—I had not given him offence, only taking him into custody twice before.
Cross-examined. Q. Not for felony? A. No, he was disorderly at times.
GEORGE COOMBER (police-constable N 306.) On the 28th, as the prisoner was going to the Edmonton station, he called to several persons on the Nursery-bridge, "I have killed the policeman, and will kill Sinclair nest"—he appeared sober—it was about nine on Sunday morning.
WILLIAM HALL . I am a surgeon of Tottenham. Bolsover was brought to me on Saturday night, the 26th of My, about half-past twelve o'clock—I found four very serious wounds on his head—the most serious one on the left side of the head, another over the left brow, and two more on the opposite side—the worst one was three inches long, and a very profuse hemorrhage from it—the scalp was completely divided to the bone, which was quite exposed, and so it was in the wound on the eye-brow—this old poker would produce such a wound, if struck with great violence, such violence as would cut through his hat—the first wound must have been from a side blow, and
the others, I think, only the point reached the head—the poker weighs 3lbs. or 4lbs.—the wounds were unquestionably calculated to endanger life—he is still under my care—there were symptoms of concussion for the first day or two.
Cross-examined. Q. Has he been in actual danger? A. He was in that state, we might anticipate danger—there were several serious symptoms the first and second day, sickness and excited circulation, and increased nervous sensibility, which are symptoms of concussion.
GUILTY with intent to do grievous bodily harm. Aged 32.— Transported for Fifteen Years.
1764. WALTER CLARK was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the counting-house of Isaac Bird, at St. Dunstan Stebonheath, alias Stepney, on the 18th of January, and stealing therein, 4 razors and cases, value 18s.; 2 reading-glasses, 7s.; 2 knives, 3s.; 1 box of pens, 4s.; 2 brushes, 2s.; 1 pair of scissors, 1s.; and two half-sovereigns; the property of Isaac Bird.—2nd COUNT, for breaking and entering a building within the curtilage of the said dwelling-house.
MR. DOANE conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM SHERRARD . I am servant to Isaac Brown, of Portman-house, Globe-road, Mile-end; he has a counting-house in his garden, there is a wall round the garden, nobody sleeps in the counting-house. On the 18th of January I left it safe, between seven and eight o'clock in the evening—I double-locked the door, bolted the shutters, and brought the key away—I went to the counting-house next morning, and found the shutters broken open—the desk was open, which was not locked the night before, but was shut—the front of the desk was broken out—I had left in it four razors, inlaid with silver, two reading-glasses, two clasp-knives, a shaving-box, and the other articles named—they were all gone—also two half-sovereigns—I went to the bottom of the garden, and found footmarks on the top of the wall, inside, as if they got in that way—I have known the prisoner three years—he lives in one of master's houses about 150 yards from master's—I saw him about four o'clock that afternoon, close to master's premises—I looked for him after this happened, but did not find him till the 28th of April, when he was apprehended—there was a brace of pistols in the coach-house in the garden, about fifty yards from the counting-house—there was a bag under a sofa, in the coach-house, with two half-sovereigns in it, and that was gone—the prisoner's father had been employed by master in the house and about the garden.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Were the prisoner and you companions? A. No, he has not slept with me—he has slept with me once, I believe, not twice—it was six or eight months before the robbery—his father worked for master several years, and was a very honest man—master knew of the prisoner sleeping with me—he did not exactly know it, but would not find fault with it—the witness, Rossiter, has slept with me once in the counting-house—it was only once, and when master was in the country.
MR. DOANE. Q. Where did you sleep? A. Over the stable that night—it was in August that I slept in the counting-house, by master's direction.
JOHN WILLIAM PORTMAN . I am fourteen years old—my father is a tailor, and lives in Globe-terrace, Mile-end, not far from Bird's—I have known the prisoner and Rossiter about six months—I was in the habit of playing with Rossiter—on Wednesday evening, the 18th of January, my mother gave me a coat to take to Mr. Butler's, in Seething-lane—my father-in-law had altered it for him—I did not take it—I fell in with Rossiter, and had some conversation with him—the prisoner afterwards came to us—we were all three
in the fields adjoining Globe-road—there were some other boys with us when Rossiter came to us—one boy said to me, "Aynt you going to take the coat home?"—Rossiter said, "What coat?"—I said "The coat I had," it was left at Bell's house while I was playing in the fields—I told Rossiter it was at Bell's—a little while after the prisoner came and asked me to pawn the coat—he said he would break open Mr. Bird's counting-home, and get me the money again—we walked up the street, and got the coat—my father was in the country at the time—the prisoner and others waited outside while I went in and got the coat—we then walked up Golden-lane, and the prisoner asked if I would let him carry it—I said yes, and at the top of Globe-lane he went into a pawnbroker's and pawned it—he brought out 5s. 11d.—he gave me the money—I gave the prisoner and Rossiter 2s. each, and kept 1s. 11d. and the duplicate—we all went to see a show—I stopped out till eleven o'clock, went to a coffee-shop, in Church-lane, I and the prisoner and Rossiter stopped there till two in the morning—the prisoner said, "We will now go down to Mr. Bird's"—I said I would not, I should go home—he said, "No, let us go down to Mr. Bird's, there is bags of gold and silver there"—I said I would go home—he said, "You fool, if we don't get anything there, I will go to a shop at the corner of Northampton-street, my father worked there, I used to go to him and I planned the way to get in," and if he got nothing there, he would go and get some pigeons and rabbits—we walked towards Mr. Bird's—before that he told me he would go and buy a diamond, and cut glass out of jewellers' shops—I left Rossiter and the prisoner at Mr. Bird's—I heard somebody coming, saw a policeman, and spoke to him, and told him I had been to the theatre, as I was afraid—he asked where I lived, I said, "At Old Ford"—he let me go—I did not go home, but slept in an outhouse—I met my mother next morning, went home with her, and told her what I had done with the coat—next day, (Friday) I heard of the robbery at Mr. Bird's, and told one of the constables of it on Sunday—I was ill in bed on Friday, and I think on Saturday. JOHN ROSSITER. I am fourteen years old, and live with my father, in Globe-lane. I have known the prisoner some time—I met Portman playing in a field there, and had some conversation with him about a coat, and soon after the prisoner came, Portman said he had a coat, and was going to take it home—it was mentioned in the prisoner's hearing, that it was at Bell's—we all three went to Bell's—the prisoner took the coat into the pawnbroker's—we waited a little way off—he came out with the ticket and money—Portman shared the money among us—I and the prisoner got 2s. each—Portman had the rest, and the ticket—the prisoner then said he would go and break into Mr. Bird's counting-house, and get the money to get the coat back again—he said he knew there were bags of gold and silver there—we all went to a show which was over at half-past ten—we walked about Whitechapel and different places, and stopped in a coffee-shop till one, and went to Bird's counting-house between one and two—Portman was coming with us, but when we got there, a policeman saw him, and he walked off—the prisoner and I got over the fence—it is partly wall and partly fence—we tried the counting-house shutters, but could not get in there, and then got into the brew-house—we did not get into the coach-house—he said, "Let us come to the counting-house first," and we did—he afterwards said, "Let us go to the house," and said there were two pistols there, but we did not go there—the prisoner brought two nails out of the brewhouse, and forced the counting-house window open—we did not get the pistols—he got into the counting-house first, and found the lucifers, and struck a light—he said his father worked there, and he knew all about the place—we found two half-sovereigns
under the sofa in some bags—there was 1/2 lb. of Spanish-liquorice, two pocket-knives, four razors, four shaving brushes, two glasses, and other property—the prisoner put them all into his pocket—the prisoner drank some beer in the brewhouse, and wanted me to take the pegs out, and leave the tubs running but I would not—we went out over Mr. Baker's wall—the prisoner put the two half-sovereigns into his mouth, and wanted to persuade me they were sixpences, but I said they were half-sovereigns—he lost one in the garden, and we shared the other, we got it changed at a Jew's in Whitechapel—I got 5s.—I saw a gun and some blankets in the counting-house—he wanted to take them, but I wouldnot—we immediately went to Petticoat-lane, got there about six, waited till the Jews came, and sold the things about eleven in the morning—the prisoner took a razor home to his father—he said that would save him a good hiding—he got 2d. for two glasses—I do not know how much he got for the whole—I got half—I do not know how much—it was only pence—I continued with him two or three days, till all his money was gone, and did not see him again till he was in custody.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. You are not quite strange at this place? A. I was never here in my life I am sure—I know nothing of Singleton and Johnson being tried here—I do not know Johnson—I was never in custody, except for fighting in the fields once—I never was taken for stealing—I did not take some pigeons from a beer-shop by the Jews' chapel—I know some people who were taken for that—I did not come against them—it was only one pigeon—a boy named Wood sold it—we met that boy when we were coming from the counting-house, and that was the morning the pigeon was taken—I stood outside the door with Clark when it was taken—I was never on Mr. Bird's premises before that night—I have been in the counting-house before—I had been there to help Bill Sherrard—I never slept there, I am sure of that—I never slept in the counting-house, I will swear, nor in the stable—I cannot be mistaken, I was never there at night
COURT. Q. Did you never sleep at the counting-house when Sherrard was there? A. No; I was never there later than eight o'clock at night.
SAMUEL HALL (police-sergeant K 373.) On the 21st of Jan. I took Rossiter—he gave me an account of the transaction—I saw Portman the day after the robbery—in consequence of a statement he and Rossiter made, I looked after the prisoner, but could not find him.
GEORGE GODEFRY (police-constable K 357.) In consequence of information, I went to the prisoner's father's house, on the 28th of April, in my uniform, and saw him—when he saw me be tried to escape over the wall, but I caught hold of his leg—I told him I took him for breaking into Mr. Bird's counting-house; and as I was taking him to the Police-court next morning, he said, "I am very sorry for what has occurred; what do you think I shall get for it?"—I said, if he had anything to say to tell the Magistrate.
Cross-examined. Q. Had he not a sailor's dress on? A. Something similar, a kind of frock—there was no tar about it, as if he had come from sea.
ISAAC BIRD, JUN . My father, Isaac Bird, is owner of this house—it is his dwelling-house—the counting-house is within the garden—Sherrard informed me of this—it was broken open—I was not the first that went there the bolts of the shutters appeared to be forced, and the property missing.
(Daniel Wade, weaver, of John-street, Bethnal-green; and William Morris, of Pitt-street, tin-plate-worker; gave the prisoner a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 14.—Recommended to mercy.— Confined Twelve Months.
NEW COURT.—Saturday, June 17th, 1843.
Second Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.
GUILTY . Aged 34.— Confined Nine Days.
1766. JOSIAH OLIVER was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of May, 1 clock, value 10l.; and 4 yards of linen cloth, 2s.; the goods of our Lady the Queen.—2nd COUNT, of the Right Hon. Sir Robert Peel, Bart., and others.—3rd COUNT, of the Lords Comminssioners of the Treasury; to which he pleaded
GUILTY . * Aged 57.— Transported for seven Years.
Before Mr. Baron Gurney.
1767. GEORGE HOWSE and WILLIAM CORNELIUS FULLER were indicted for stealing, on the 13th May, at St. George, Hanover-square, 54 silver dinner plates, value 351l.; 1 dozen plated plates, 12l.; 1 paper plate, 10s.; 1 silver box, 6l.; 17 silver gilt plates, 160l.; and 1 plate-box, 2l.; the goods of Edward Cane and another, the masters of Howse.—2nd COUNT, stating them to be the goods of William Robert Seymour Fitzgerald, the master of Howse.—3rd and 4th COUNTS, stating it to be the dwelling-house of Edward Cane and another, or William Robert Seymour Fitzgerald.—4 other COUNTS, varying the ownership of the property.
MESSRS. CLARKSON and BODKIN conducted the prosecution.
GEORGE THORPE . I was under-butler to the late Lord Fitzgerald, who lived in Belgrave-square, in the parish of St. George's Hanover-square; his lordship died in the early part of Thursday morning, 11th May—Howse was his lordship's house-steward. On Friday evening, the day after his lordship's death, I remember seeing a tall man, who I did not know, in company with Howse in the butler's pantry, where a portion of Lord Fitzgerald's plate was kept, in consequence of some repairs that were going on; the chest that was stolen was in that room—I did not notice which way the man came in—I first saw him in the room—I did not notice which way the man came his back towards me—I was standing by the table in the pantry—he came in backwards—I saw no reason for that—there was nothing to account for his coming in so as not to show his face—I did not take that notice—on his coming in I left the pantry—Howse and he came in together—I returned to the pantry in about fice minutes, and found them still together—Howse said to the other man, "I think this pantry is larger than yours;" he said, "No, I think not"—he then took him into the plate-closet, and said, "You see we have had this done up for the old man, but it is no use now"—this was about half-past six in the evening—on the following day we were to be measured for our mourning—no time was fixed for our being measured, that I know of—some directions were given to the men-servants by West, about being measured—I went up among the rest to be measured—just before I went up to be measured I went out for some beer—I went out by a door that leads into the area and up the steps into the street—that door has a spring-lock to it—when I went out I pulled that door to, so that the lock caught—there is an iron-gate at the top which was not kept locked, which opens into the street in the ordinary way—I think there is an iron-railling on this cross piece (pointing out the position on a model of the premises)—I was gone about five minutes—I returned in the same way—I found the area-door fast as I had left it—I rang the bell, and smith the butler, and West the porter
opened the door—the door was again closed, I am sure of that—about three minutes afterwards I went up into the dining-room to be measured—I found all the men-servants there except Howse—as I was going up I saw Howse standing on the mat at the bottom of the stairs—he said, "Why don't you go up to get measured?" and I went—he stopped there—I had been about two minutes in the dining-room when I heard an alarm of the robbery of the plate—I went down stairs—I saw Howse at the bottom of the stairs where I had left him—he said, "Here is one of your boxes of plate gone"—I then ran to the pantry—Howse followed me—he told me the box was gone from where it stood—I was looking to see which box it was, and he said, "There, it stood there"—I said "Yes, and you know it, it was full of silver plate"—there were several other boxes of plate there—the box that was taken was No. 8, and I think there were 9, or 10—there was nothing outside the boxes to tell to a stranger which contained the silver plate—they did not all contain silver plate—this was a small chest, it stood on the top of another one—it was full of silver plates—I do not exactly know how many silver dinner-plates were in it—when I said to Howse, "Yes, and you know it, it was full of silver plate," I turned round and looked at him, and his hand shook and his lips trembled—he said "Humph!"—I then ran into the servants' hall and got my hat to go to look after the men—I do not know what Howse did—I left him in the pantry—I did not see him make any effort to go in suit—I had been in the pantry, I should say, three minutes before I went out for the beer—the chest was then safe—I had occasion to go to that plate chest a short time before this occurred, to take out the silver plate which was used in administering the sacrament to Lord Fitzgerald—I returned that plate into the chest on Friday morning—when I returned from fetching the beer I noticed a chaise-cart standing near the railing, and a man with it—I took no particular notice of it—it was standing on the side next the area that I went up, by the curb-stone, opposite the area-gate—I did not notice it when I went out—I am sure it was there when I returned—there were some repairs going on which had made it necessary to have the plate in the butler's pantry, instead of in the room where it was usually kept—I was there the chief part of the time superintending the repairs—I did not hear Howse give any direction with respect to the repairs—there was to have been an iron door put up, and about ten o'clock, on the morning of the robbery, I heard Howse say to Smith, "We will not have the door put up to-day, as my lord is lying dead, I do not think it proper"—the workmen had been at work on the Friday, but not on the Thursday—the effect of Howse's direction would be to stop any workmen coming on that part of the premises on that day—no workmen came—Howse saw the men at work there on the Friday.
Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT TALFOURD. Q. How long had you been in Lord Fitzgerald's service? A. At that time, five weeks—his lordship had not been ill all that time—I had been in the house once before I was servant there—I went to see Smith, the butler—I knew him—I went to the housekeeper's room on that occasion—Mrs. Parker was housekeeper at that time—I did not go into the pantry at that time—the day I was engaged I was in the pantry—Lord Fitzgerald himself engaged me, in the drawing-room—I went into the pantry to see Smith—I went in with Smith—I never saw the face of the tall man on the Friday—I was standing near the window by the table when he and Howse came in—it was light—the man walked in backwards, and remained with his back towards me the whole time—I should say he walked backwards about a yard and a half into the room—I passed him, and walked out as he stood in that position—I did not look round to
look at his face—I think there were ten boxes of plate altogether—some of them contained gilt plates—I think there was one gold plate in the box that was stolen—all the chests were in the pantry—the one this stood upon was on the ground—this was the top one, and the smallest of the two—there was valuable plate in the one below it—I do not exactly know the chests Nos. 3 and 7—none of the other chests contained plate of greater value than the one that was taken—I should say it was the most valuable of the lot—it was more valuable than the larger one, which stood below it—when I entered the service the plate was all counted over to me—there is a door at the bottom of the area steps, and another door leading into the passage between the still-room and the steward's-room, and that passage leads into the main passage, which goes from the housekeeper's room to the kitchen, but there are no steps to that area—there is a sort of curve or scroll in the iron railing of the area, leaving a space through which a man might drop down into the area, and by that means get to the centre door—the area runs round the house—one part of it fronts Belgrave-square—it is a corner house—that centre door was always kept shut until that morning, and all that morning it was open—it was opened to go out to clean boots and shoes, and shut when we came in again—it is sometimes kept open on a fine day to admit air—that was often done of an afternoon—the area gate was kept locked at night, but not in the day—anybody could unlatch the area gate, and come down to ring the bell below—I have known Smith about eight or nine years—it was through him I was introduced to Lord Fitzgerald—no other servant was engaged while I was there—I do not of my own knowledge know who was in the habit of engaging the servants—I was certainly much agitated at the time of the robbery—I was quite astonished and confounded at this plate having been taken away in broad day light.
MR. BODKIN. Q. There is another door which you have not been asked about, which is in the partition between the two areas? A. Yes—that door on the day in question was fastened with a padlock—if the area door which I went out of was fast, no one could gat to the door that was open except by dropping down the area.
JOHN WEST . I was porter to the late Lord Fitzgerald. About twelve o'clock on Saturday, the 13th of May, I received from Howse orders to send the servants up stairs to the dining-room, to be measured for their mourning—I was then down below in the passage near the servant's hall, at the bottom of the steps—about ten minutes after I received a second message—he said, "Why have you not sent the servants up into the dining-room?"—I said, I could not find them—I had not sent any one then—I went into the pantry to look for Thorpe, and then into the area, and looked in all the vaults, the three vaults that were open—the others were closed—I then saw him coming down the area steps with a pot of beer in his hand—I let him in—the door was fast before I let him in—no one could get in except they were let in by a person inside—Thorpe gave the beer to Smith—Smith opened the door—I told Smith at the time that they were all to go to the dining-room—I told Thorpe and Smith to go up to be measured—I went to the servant's hall, and then went up to the dining-room by myself, and they followed me—Howse was measured first, and he left the room directly afterwards.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. You know Mr. Cane, of course? Yes—he was in the house at the time, and, I think, slept there—I believe he gave directions as to what was going on—he was in the drawing-room at twelve o'clock that morning—I saw the tailor in the dining-room—I did not see him with Mr. Cane—I had my own livery made when I wentinto Lord Fitzgerald's service—I found it myself—I cannot tell whether the person who was
employed on this occasion was the person usually employed as tailor—I have been in Lord Fitzgerald's service about five months at this time—Howse had the full management of the house—I cannot tell whether he had keys to all the places—he had to certain places—he had not so much authority a week or a fortnight before his lordship's death—at that time his lordship was lying ill—Howse did not sleep in the house that night—he came about ten o'clock that morning—I cannot tell exactly—it was about ten, I think, or a little after—I would not say it was not half-past elevan-he might have been in and out of the house several times unknown to me.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. About what time was it when you first heard that the plate-chest was gone? A. Very near half-past twelve o'clock, as near as I can guess.
COURT. Q. Did you hear of it before you left the dining-room? A. I was not measured at the time, I was waiting to be measured—Smith had just done being measured, and the measure was put down Woodbridge's back at the time the alarm was made—I might have been six or seven minutes in the room before the alarm was made.
HENRY YORK SMITH . I was butler to the late Lord Fitzgerald, and had been so about four months. The plate was usually kept in a closet for tie purpose, but, in consequence of some changes taking place, it was removed into the butler's pantry, about ten days or a fortnight before his lordship's death—on the Friday, the day after his lordship's death, Howse came into the pantry—I told him the men had come to work, which I thought was very improper-he said. "Why?"-I said, "Why, his lordship is lying dead in tne house, and I think it very improper for men to be at work, in the pantry, particularly, when such an event has taken place"—he said there had been an estimate made out for it, and it must be fulfilled—I said I thought it was very improper-however, the workmen went on—I told him I had also been to Mr. Cane, the executor, to tell him that I thought it improper the men should be at work at such a time—Howse said if Mr. Cane gate him one order and me another, he did not understand it-after this the men went on with their work that day—on the Saturday Howse told me that the men would not be there that day to put up the door, which was an iron door that was to have been put up to complete the closet—the box that was stolen contained fifty-four silver dinner plates, seventeen gilt dessert plates, two round official silver boxes, 1 think, I am certain there was one; twelve plated soup plates, and I think some others—I do not know, without I had the inventory, whether there was not some other plated dinner plates, I think there were, and a papier mache plate—I do not remember Howse making any observation about one of those boxes—the morning after his lordship's death, Howse remarked to me, in the pantry, that one of those boxes ought to be his, turning round to the plate chests that were behind us—I supposed him to mean, (I do not know why I should do so, certainly, but I supposed him to mean) a small box con-taining dessert things, which I had merely given into my charge, but had not signed my name for—when I entered the service I signed a receipt for the plate—that box was given into my custody at the time I signed the acknowledgment, but it was not in the list that I signed for—we were talking together about his lordship's death, and one thing and another—I brought some sherry down from the upper drawing-room—Howse helped himself to a glass, turned his head round, and said, "One of those, that small box, ought to be mine"—he said nothing further—I saw the plate-chest that was stolen safe in the pantry that Saturday morning—about twelve o'clock, or a little after, on that day, West gave me directions, as from Howse, to go into the dining-room—I went up directly-I found Howse and Woodbridge there, a man named Wright, a picture-dealer,
and the tailor—the otners came in afterwards—while I was in the dining-room all the men-servants were asseembled—the tailor was measuring Howse when I went in—he was the first measured, I believe—he said he would have the first turn, and I should have the next—I was measured after Howse—after Howse was measured, he sat down for an instant till the tailor commenced measuring me; and when he began measuring me, he got up, said he should go down and see Parker, respecting the female servants mourning, and left the room, I believe—I was standing with my face towards the window—I had hardly been measured, when I heard the alarm—I went down on the alarm being given—I saw Mrs. Parker down at the bottom of the stairs, and she said something to me—I found Howse in the passage leading into the pantry—I ran past him into the pantry, to see which box was gone—he was standing in the passage, and appeared to make way for me, seeing me in a hurry—a person named Bull called to see me that day, a little before twelve o'clock, I think—he was in the pantry first of all—Howse came into the pantry while we were talking together—Bull was standing up at the time Howse came in—I do not know exactly that he was about to leave—he was shortly going to leave, I think—as he was going away, I asked him to go and look at some beer which I had been brewing—I do not know that he exactly appeared to he going away them Howse saw him—he was standing up, I suppose for the purpose of going away—Howse was not aware of my asking him to stay to look at the the beer—I do not thing he could have heard of any thing of the kind—I look him through the kitchen into the cellar—at the time I was desired to go up to be measured, Bull was siting in the kitchen by a small table, between the fire and the window—he had been in the cellar and seen the beer—when the area bell rang, I went up to open the door, and found West there-he asked me if I had seen Howse—I said, no—he said he wanted me up in the dining room-at that moment Thorpe came in with some beer, and the door was closed, I think by West—it was closed so as to catch—I should have closed it myself if it had not been done—I then went up to the dining-room, leaving Bull in the Kitchen, the door of which opens close to the door Thorpe came in at.
Cross-examined by MR. WILKINS. Q. Who had the custoday of the plate? A. It was in my charge, with the under butler's—I was well acquainted with the contents of the various chests, by looking over them and counting them—I think there were about twelve chests altogether-the chest that was taken was rather smaller than the others—I should not think any of the other chests contained plate of greater value than the plate taken—I would not take upon myself to swear there was not, but I will swear it from the size of the box—I think there was not any of greater value—I think there was one chest that contained silver articles exclusively—it contained spoons and forks, and everything appertaining to the use of an establishment—there were entre dishes and covers—I do not think there were chests there that would weigh considerably more than the one which was removed, but I will not be positive the persons taking this plate out of the pantry would to pass the housekepper's room, on the left-hand side, and the still room, on the left-hand side—(the still-room is used for the maid-servants—there were two house-maids and a kitchen-maid—there was also a cook and the housekeeper, but they had no business in the still-room—there were five female servants altogether only three used the still-room)—they would then pass a passage that leads to the area, on the left-hand side—they would also pass Howse's room and the servants' hall, to get to the area—the pantry is as close as possible to the housekeeper's room—they would not have to pass the kitchen; that is at the extreme end of the passage—they could get out at the area gate without
passing the kitchen—I do not think a person could open the door of the housekeeper's room and the door of the butler's pantry at the same time—I could not do it, because the distance is rather too far to extend—a man with very long arms might do it—the cook has lived in the family about three months—a person named Mark Denton called on me that morning on business—he is a servant that had gone to the situation I left when I came to Lord Fitzgerald's—Mr. Cane was in the house that morning—he slept in the house that night—I believe he was in the drawing-room at the time the tailor was measuring the servants—I did not know the tailor, only by seeing him there that day—I understand he was brought there by Mr. Cane's order—I do not know who usually made Howse's clothes—I do not know who made his clothes before—I do not know that it was not Howse's tailor that was there that morning—Howse never complained about my leaving the doors open—I have never heard that he has complained of my doing so—I have heard him complant of the doors being left open—he has never complained to me or in my hearing that it made the property of the house insecure—he did not assign any reason for complaining of the doors being left open.
Q. What beer was it that you were going to show Bull that day? A. Previous to his lordship's death he requested me to brew some beer for him, and I had brewed three times in succession for his lordship—I had some that was brewed, and some, also, that was working—I wanted to show Bull some that was then in a state of fermentation—I do not know where Howse was at the time I asked Bull to look at the beer—he was not in the pantry—I should think he had left five or six minutes—I am not certain—I did not see him when I went out of the pantry with Bull, to look at the beer—if I had I should have noticed him—there are a great number of doors in the area—two of those places are the servants' water-closets—some of them are unoccupied—there are things locked up in them—one of them is used as a brushing-place, to brush shoes in—they are all occupied with somethings or other—I look into the places almost daily, not in every one of them—the keys were left in the water-closets and the brushing-place—I do not think a key is left in every door—there was a key in the further one I know, and I think there were keys in the water-closets, and, yes, I think there were keys in all—I hired West—Howse used to request me to do so and to get their characters for his lordship—I also hired Thorpe and Boxall, at the request of Howse and his lordship—I should think that was properly Howse's duty, as he had not left the service—I did not know West till he came into the service—I am sure of that.
MR. BODKIN. Q. What family did you live in before you went to Lord Fitzgerald's? A. With Mr. Powell, of George-street, Hanover-square—Mark Denton is still in that gentleman's service—he went away from Lord Fitzgerald's house, I think, about twelve o'clock that morning—I remember Thorpe going out for the beer—Denton had left before that—I had not heard any complaints by House about the doors being left open, at least for three months before—I was very particular about the doors myself, his lordship requested me to be so, and I was—these doors in the area all open into arched vaults under the pavement of the street—one of them was locked up, and 1 believe hardly ever opened—there was no key in that—the servants would have access to all those that were not locked up, every day—the door of the housekeeper's room and the pantry door are close together.
Q. Supposing a man to be in the housekeeper's room, and drawing the door after him as he came out, could be with his hand push open the door of the butler's pantry? A. I think he could easily, without leaving his hold
of the door of the housekeeper's room—I think he might turn round, and hold the door of the housekeeper's room with his left hand behind him, while with his right he could open the pantry-door—standing at the door of the housekeeper's room, he would have a view all along the passage that leads to the area steps.
CATHERINE PARKER . I was housekeeper to Lord Fitzgerald, and should have been so fifteen months on the 21st of this month—I remember being in his lordship's bed-room on the Saturday morning after he died—I heard the call-bell ring about a quarter or twenty minutes past twelve—it turned out that it was for me—I went down stairs to the dining-room—I then saw Howse, and found it was him that had sent for me—at that time he was being measured for his mourning—after he was measured, he told me I was to go up to the back drawing-room, to Mr. Cane, and speak to him about the females mourning—he came out of the dining-room, and told me that—I left him, and went to the back drawing-room for that purpose—Howse went down the stairs, across the hall, down the kitchen stairs in a hurried way—when I had seen Mr. Cane I came down stairs immediately—I was a very short time with him—I had got about half-way down the kitchen stairs when I saw Howse at the top of the three stairs, going towards his room along the passage—I went before him towards his room—I said, "Now, Mr. Howse, I will speak to you"—I had frequently been in the habit of speaking to him in his own room before that time—when I got to his door, he said, "No, go, go," and put his hand in this way, in the direction of my room—that had the effect of preventing me from going into his room—I went to my own room—he followed me—I got into my own room, and commenced speaking to him about the mourning, and he said, "I must have a pen and ink"—I told him that was not necessary—he said, "Yes, I must"—I said, "Mr. Howse, you don't want it, for I will do justice to the utmost"—he went out of my room—he said he wanted the pen and ink to set down some things that I was going to tell him about the mourning—he said he must have a pen and ink—he opened the door about half-way, and pulled the door gently after him by his hand, not as any one else would do, catch it sharp after them—he kept the door in his hand till he got out, and pulled it to—I could have seen what was passing in the butler's pantry if the door had been opened—I do not think I could have seen him where I was sitting—if I had got up from my seat I could have seen into the passage—at the time he said he must have a pen and ink, there was a pen and ink in my room, which he had used occasionally, and even brought two or three persons in occasionally to use it in my room—after Howse had gone out of the room, and drew the door to, I heard footsteps of more than one person—it could not have been more than a quarter of a minute after—it appeared against the mat of my door, between the two doors, the mat of the pantry door and my door—the noise was a sort of a shuffling of feet—it is a stone pavement—it was a sort of shuffle which people make when carrying something heavy on a stone pavement—he returned to me I think in about half a minute after I heard the noise—he came in, shut the door, went to my table, and took the pen and ink off it, with his back towards me—he did not bring in any pen and ink for which he had left the room—his hand shook violently, and his face was very red—he looked excited—I was just commencing the conversation, and the cook, Mrs. Williams, came to the door—I heard her footsteps coming to the door—he made two strokes with his pen—he made a mark on two pieces of paper, which I understood him were bills, and that he had brought something wrong—I cannot exactly say what he said—when the cook came into the room she was going to say something—I said, "Now go, we are talking," and she
went out again—she returned again in about half a minute, and said "Mr. Howse, have you sent a box of any kind out of the house, for two men have carried it up the area steps?"—he said, "No"—I asked her what kind of box—she said, "A box something like a plate chest"—I said, "God bless me, run and stop it," and I got up immediately—I went out into the passage and called the men as loud as I could call, not being aware that they were up stairs—the men came down stairs—I think Thorpe was the first—I do not know what became of Howse—I do not recollect seeing him again till after Mrs. Williams came into the house again from the street—when I left the room, I think I must have left Howse and Mrs. Williams in it, but I am not quite sure—when the alarm was given, Howse seemed very excited, and still his hand trembled—on my return I found him in the passage with a gentleman, and followed him up the passage with the policeman No. 5, of the B division—I said, "Mr. Howse, it was you, and you only, that let the men out of the pantry with the plate"—I did not hear him make any reply—on the Thursday evening, the evening before this, I remember a tall man, of sallow complexion and dark hair, coming to see Howse, and Howse took him into the pantry—I heard him talking there—I think it must have been about half-past six o'clock—I am not quite certain—it was between six and seven—I had never seen the man before to my knowledge—I heard them talking about the quantity of plate that was in the pantry, and then I heard him show him the plate closet, which he said had been fitted up—I did not see him do so—Howse said to the other man, "I suppose your master is going to have one fitted up like it?"—after that he brought him into my room, and introduced him—he said, "Mrs. Parker, Lord Fitzgerald's housekeeper, my friend"—the man made a remark about the airiness of my room—it is a very large room, and very airy—after he returned from my room he went along the passage, and said to Mr. Howse, "What door is that?"—I did not see the door he pointed to, if he pointed at all, but Mr. Howse replied, "The wine-cellar door"—that is one of the doors in the passage, and next adjoining the butler's pantry.
Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT TALFOURD. Q. You say you had been there about fifteen months; were you hired by the year? A. No, I was only stopping to oblige Lord Fitzgerald—I was not a permanent servant, but continued from week to week—I was in the same house with the family of Vincent Eyre, Esq., eight years before Lord Fitzgerald came, and he wished me to continue with him as his housekeeper—Howse was the house steward—he had the superintendence of all the servants—when he came to the house, I gave him master keys, two of the wine-cellar, and two of the plate-closet leading out of the pantry, which would enable him to open them at any time, and look into them to see that all was right—he had the entire confidence of Lord FitzGerald—I was only in Lord Fitzgerald's room once or twice during his last illness—on two days I was in the adjoining room, and backwards and forwards occasionally—Howse was in the room, looking through the curtains when poor Lord Fitzgerald died, and he was ordered to go out of the room by Dr. Tevan, for it disturbed his lordship—I had not heard his lordship take leave of him just before that—I did not hear him speak to him.
Q. You say you observed his hand tremble, had he not been ill for some time before with a nervous debility? A. Yes, he had been attended by my lord's physician, and got much better—I think it was about the beginning of April—I cannot exactly say the time—I do not think he was attended? very long by his lordship's physician—there was another medical man who also attended him—his lordship sent for his physician I believe, and I think he saw him several times during the week—I was a good deal excited and
agitated myself at the time I found the plate-chest gone—the call bell is in the lower passage, about opposite Howse's room—it is rung from the passage, on the basement story, just at the one end of the Passage that goes into my room, at the further part of the passage from my room, near the kitchen—when I heard the bell ring I was up two pair of stairs—three pairs from the area—I had gone up into that room about twelve o'clock, and I was there when the bell rung—when I came down, I saw Howse in the act of being measured by the tailor—I do not know whether he is the tailor that usually made the servants' things—Mr. Cane was in the back drawing-room at that time—that is on the first floor from the sitting-room, above the dining-room—I went to Mr. Cane, and received some directions, then I went down the first flight of stairs, and so down towards Howse's room—he was on the three stairs that come up from the passage to the kitchen—he was not coming down the same flight of stairs as I was—there was a pen and ink in my room, on a large side-table at the left-hand side of the fire-place, not standing in the centre of the room—I generally settled my business with him in his own room, and when there we had a pen and ink—he had two pieces of paper when he went out, and drew the door after him, and he brought them in again with him—I do not think it was more than half a minute from the time he went out till he returned—I could not say quite—it might be a very little longer—I have been remaining in the house since my lord's death, and so have all the servants—we have been talking about the loss of the plate among ourselves, saying what an awful thing it was—we have no great deal to do there now—we have frequently talked the matter over together, about what we had each seen and heard.
Q. You say Howse made you no answer when you spoke to him about the loss of the plate; did not he say, "Have I not often told you not to leave the drawers open?" A. No, not to my recollection—I can swear that did not pass—the first time I was at Queen-square I did not name about the shuffling of the feet—I forgot it—I did remember it, but I omitted saying it—I did not remember it while I was giving my evidence, but I did before and after—it slipped my memory at that particular time—I had mentioned it before that to my fellow-servants—I think I mentioned it to Smith the butler—I am certain I did to the cook.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. About how soon after you heard the call-bell ring was it that you heard the shuffling of feet by your door? A. I think it might be from nine to ten minutes—I am not quite certain to the minute—I think it was from a quarter to twenty minutes past twelve when the call-bell rang.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Did the pen and ink in your room stand on the same table on which it usually stood? A. I think it was the same table from whence Howse used it before; I used to have only one inkstand in the room, but I have now got an inkstand with a drawer in it, which I took out of one of the rooms up stairs, and I named that to Mr. Howse—it was of no use up stairs, and I brought it down and put it on the table, and Mr. Howse took it up and looked at it—he knew well where it stood—I do not think it was more than a fortnight before this robbery; but I have it set down at home—I cannot recollect now.
MARY HAWKINS . I was kitchen-maid in the late Lord Fitzgerald's house, and know the butler's pantry in which the plate was kept. On the day of the robbery, about twelve o'clock, I went there to clean the room—Howse came in there while I was so employed—he asked me where Mrs. Parker was—I told him I thought she was up stairs—he asked me to go and see for her, as he wanted to speak to her in the dining-room about the mourning—I then rang the call-bell, and did not see him go up stairs—I went out into the
kitchen soon after, and then came back towards the butler's pantry, and met two men in the passage carrying a box in a direction from the pantry—I did not suspect anything wrong, and stood aside to let them pass—I took no notice of them at all—they passed by me on towards the area—after the call-bell had been rung, I had gone back into the pantry—I staid there not three minutes before I went into the kitchen, and it was on returning from the kitchen I met the two men—Mrs. Williams, the cook, made a communication to me directly after; and after speaking to me, she went to the housekeeper's room—I stood outside the door—she went in, and Howse and Mrs. Parker were talking—she remained there about a minute, and came out again—Mrs. Parker told her to go along out, for she was talking—she came out, and returned again into the housekeeper's room directly afterwards, and I heard her say, "Mr. Howse, have you sent a box of any kind away? is there a box of any kind gone away from the pantry?"—I believe he said "No"—then an alarm was given that it was missing.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Where is the call-bell? A. At the corner, very nearly opposite Howse's room-door, at the bottom floor in the passage, where I was at the time—Howse did not tell me to ring the call-bell—we generally ring it when we want any one from up stairs—we must go up stairs or ring the bell—after ringing the bell I went up stairs, before I returned to the pantry, to the top of the stairs—we generally go up stairs to see some one at the top—I saw the housemaid—she asked me what the bell was for—I said, "It is for Mrs. Parker, Mr. Howse wants to see her directly"—I then went back to the pantry to begin my work again—I left it to go into the kitchen, to put some potatoes on for the kitchen dinner—it did not occur to me to do that before I went into the pantry—I put the potatoes on—I had got them all ready before—I was not in the kitchen a minute before I returned again—I went straight towards the pantry—the kitchen door is more than three or four yards from Howse's room—I had been in the employ two months the 10th of this month—the cook was there when I came.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Did you put your potatoes on before you met the men in the passage, or after? A. Before I put them on—I looked at the clock, when it was exactly half past twelve, and directly after, I met the men in the passage.
WILLIAM WOODBRIDGE . I was the late Lord Fitzgerald's valet—when I first heard the alarm of this robbery I was in the dining-room, waiting to be measured—I remember Howse leaving the dining-room after being measured—I heard the alarm of the robbery two or three minutes afterwards—after the robbery I saw Mr. Cane with Howse in the pantry—I heard Mr. Cane ask Howse what the value of the plate was—he said about 50l.—Smith, the butler, was present at the time, and he said, "More like 400l."—Howse did not make any answer to that—I know the prisoner Fuller by seeing him frequently at his lordship's house—the last time was about six or seven weeks before the robbery—he came to visit Howse—I have been his lordship's valet about six months—I have not seen Fuller visiting Howse more than twice in the six months—I had seen him frequently before—I was his lordship's footman about six months—I have been twelve months with his lordship altogether on the 9th of next month—I have seen Fuller at the house seven or eight times—I do not know who introduced him to Howse—I have always taken him to Howse's room—I am certain I had seen him there about six or seven weeks before the robbery—I cannot say to a week—he was with Howse in his room the last time I saw him.
Cross-examined by MR. WILKINS. Q. Do you know what Fuller's business is? A. No—his lordship had many pictures in the house—I do not
know that Fuller was employed to move them—I swear I have no knowledge of that—I know he came to visit Howse, because when he came he asked for House, and I showed him into his room—a great many tradespeople that come to the house ask for Howse—on the death of the last valet, his lordship took me—Lord Fitzgerald hired me in the first instance, not Howse—I always found Lord Fitzgerald a particularly kind master—I cannot say anything against Mr. Howse; he always behaved very well to me while I was in the service—he sometimes had an uncouth way of talking to the servants—I never found him a domineering sort of a man—he might have been so to the other servants at times—I never found that there was a marked contrast between the kindness of his lordship's behaviour and that of Howse—I do not know about the other servants, I speak of what I have always found him—he was always very mild to me—I have heard him speak indifferently to others—he might have reason for finding fault—he was rude at times, but I cannot say that his manner was naturally that of a rude, uncouth man—he was so at times certainly—he was not so to me more frequently than otherwise—I have heard him uncivil at times, and at times speak at civil as any man could do; I speak for myself, not for others—his manner was sometimes rough, and sometimes not.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. You have seen Fuller at Lord Fitzgerald's twice during the last six months? A. Yes, I think so, and the last time was six or seven weeks from the time he was taken into custody, which was on Monday, the 18th, I think, the robbery happening on the Saturday—I was examined before the Justice on the Monday—Fuller was examined there.
CATHERINE WILLIAMS . I was cook in the service of the late Lord Fitzgerald; I had been so three months on the 27th of May. On the Saturday on which this plate was stolen I was in the kitchen all the morning—I remember Mary Hawkins coming there about twelve o'clock, or half-past, to put the potatoes on—she did so, and left the kitchen in a few minutes afterwards—when she came into the kitchen Mr. Bull was there—he remained there till after the alarm of this robbery was given—when she came in to put the potatoes on she went to stir the fire—I had some rice-milk to make, and I said, "Don't stir the fire, Mary, there is plenty of time to put on the potatoes"—she said, "No, there is not, it is half-past twelve"—I said, "Half-past twelve! so late as that?" expressing some surprise—there is no clock in the kitchen, there is in the passage—I did not look in the passage—Mr. Bull made some observation—I followed Hawkins out of the kitchen—the was about two or three yards before me—she closed the door after her, and I opened it to go out into the passage directly after she went out—I went to look for Smith, as Mr. Bull wanted to go away—when I opened the kitchen door, the area door was shutting, and I saw a man's hand on the door, shutting it—he was outside the door—I heard a box or something knock against the door—I opened the door, looked into the area, and saw two men carrying a box up the area steps—when I first saw them they were going up the three steps that go up first of all into the area—they are close to the door; then you come to a straight piece before you come to the steps again—they were on those steps when I saw them—their backs were towards me, and part of their sides—they were carrying it between them—they proceeded with it along the area till they came to the steps—they then went up the steps—they turned when they got to the bend of the stairs, and I then saw Fuller's face—he was the first man—he went up the steps backwards—I had not known him before—I should think the other man was about five feet nine or ten inches high, a very fine looking man—I thought I had seen him in the house, although I
did not see his face—the box was a square one, and had the appearance of a plate-chest—it appeared to be heavy, from the manner in which they carried it—Fuller is the man whose face I saw; and it struck me directly, when I saw the other man taking the box, that he was a friend of Mr. Howse—I thought it was the man who had come to see Howse the evening before—I shut the door when I saw the man's hand on the area door, and I went to tell Mrs. Parker I wondered what Mr. Howse had been sending out then, because something struck me it was wrong—I then went to Mrs. Parker's room—Mr. Howse was sitting there—Mrs. Parker said, "Now, just go, we are talking"—I left the room, went to the pantry door, and knocked at it—no one answered—I looked in, and then ran from there to the servants'-hall, knocked at the door, looked in there, saw no one, ran back to the housekeeper's room again, and said, "Mr. Howse, have you sent a box" or "a box of any sort away?"—he said, "No,"—(I did not stop in any of these places, I went as quick as I could)—I said, "Will you just go into the pantry and see?"—he did so, and said, "Yes, there is one gone"—I ran out into the area, went to a cabman that was standing just opposite, and asked him something—I think I saw Howse standing by a cab when I was making inquiries—a policeman came in a few minutes—I gave him a description of the persons I had seen take the box away—I said to Howse, "I think, Mr. Howse, I have seen that man, the tall, dark man come to see you"—he did not make any answer—I said nothing more to him at that time—afterwards I was with him in the housekeeper's room, and told him it was a very shocking thing—he said, "Yes, it is very shocking"—I said, "Mr. Howse, it looks like a planned thing"—he said it did—I said, "The men must have been in the house"—he said, "They must"—I said Mr. William Russell's servant called out of the window and said she had seen a cart there for an hour—he said, "As for that I have seen two carts standing there all the morning"—Mr. Smith said, "Mr. Howse, if you had seen a cart there that looked suspicious, why was not you on the look out?"—he said he did not take notice of them—he grumbled something to himself, but I cannot say what his words were exactly.
Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT TALFOURD. Q. Was Smith present at the time this conversation took place? A. Yes—it was half an hour I think after it happened, in the housekeeper's room, after the flurry was over—I have always recollected that I had this conversation with Howse—I named it soon after, because Mr. Howse was very much flurried at the time, and very much coloured up, and Smith made him that answer—I have always remembered the remark I made, that one of the men had come to see him—I described him—I have always remembered this conversation I have been telling—I never forgot it at any time—I always remembered it when examined at Queen—square—I always had the impression that one of the men who I saw carrying the box, was a man I had seen in the house before—I am quite certain about that—I did not say anything to Howse about Fuller—I had never seen Fuller before—Smith, and me, and Howse were present at this conversation—those were the last words I spoke to Mr. Howse—Mr. Howse hired me, but I saw his lordship on the 27th of Feb., a day or two before I came—I named this conversation to the police—inspector, Mr. Moran, at the time—I cannot exactly say when I first told him—Howse remained after that conversation, I believe, but he went up stairs with the intention of going out, but Mr. Moran stopped him I believe, I heard Mrs. Parker say so—I did not see him myself—he remained there till the Monday evening—I believe he was taken into custody in the house—I did not see him taken—I know he was there backwards and forwards, from time to time—I cannot tell when I first told Moran what I have told to—day—I did not see him till two or three days after, I think—I
cannot say—I saw him at Queen-square—when we named other things about Mr. Howse, I named that, and Mr. Smith recollected it—Mr. Smith was very much excited at the time—he could hardly speak—he did recollect the words—I cannot give you any day when I told Moran what I have told today—it was not a week after, it was soon after—I think it was before I was examined at Queen-square the second time—I cannot be certain about it at all, but I do not think it was very long—I believe it was in the housekeeper's room, at Lord Fitzgerald's—I believe in the presence of Mrs. Parker—I know I did name it to her, whether it was in her room or not, I really cannot tell—I believe Moran was not the first person I named it to—it was a common conversation among us—on my oath, I cannot tell you where I was when I told it to Moran, or whether it was in the house or in the open air—I do not think it was at the Police-office, and cannot tell with certainty whether it was in Belgrave-square—I had lived in Lord Fitzgerald's service three months—before that, I lived at Captain Bulkeley's, at Clewer, where I am going back to—I lived with him a year and a half—before that I lived for twelve months at Mr. Thurlow's, eleven miles from Guilford—I remember something happening about a shawl just before I went away from there—I know what you refer to, and if you will allow me I will explain it—there was a valet there named Samuel Ransom, and a coachman named Fisher—he was called John Fisher at the house, and by Mr. Thurlow, but I believe he said his name was Ross—I remember his losing a shawl just before I went away—it was taken and hid in a joke by the housekeeper and me—the valet went to Mr. Thurlow in a very great rage, and said he would find his shawl—we said we had not got it—Mr. Thurlow sent for us in, and said, "Mrs. Williams, give up the shawl"—I said, "I really don't know where the shawl is, Sir, but I dare say George will find it"—he said, "But I know you have taken it in a lark"—I said, "On my word, Sir, I don't know any thing at all about it, but I dare say George will find it"—Mr. Thurlow said, "It is all nonsense to keep it up like this, I dare say you have got the shawl"—young Mr. Thurlow laughed, and said, "Give the shawl up, Williams"—I said, "I really don't know where it is"—the housekeeper and me said we would not say where the shawl was—George told Mr. Thurlow he was sure the shawl was in the kitchen drawer—Mr. Thurlow, when he came down to look, said, "Let me look in this drawer, Mrs. Williams"—I said, "Yet, I will, and I will give you the shawl, and I am very sorry I have played the joke so far"—I did not like to give it up because I would not be seen in such a trifling thing—Mr. Thurlow said it was a stupid thing to play the joke so far—the shawl was found in my kitchen drawer locked up—we were called into the room by Mr. Thurlow, after prayers—I dare say it was twelve o'clock—I repeatedly denied knowing any thing about it—Mr. Thurlow said, beggars might come in—I said no beggar could come in.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. You saw the tall man that called on Howse the evening before this robbery? A. Yes—Fuller was not that man—I saw the two men going up the steps with this plate chest—Fuller went first—I at once recognized the tall man—I have always been certain about Fuller—I went with the policeman, and saw him in custody at the station on the Monday afternoon following, soon after dinner—I dined at one o'clock—I am not aware that anybody else was in confinement when I saw him—I saw some people standing there—I do not know whether they were in custody—they were all standing together in the room—I do not know whether they were policemen—they were not in police clothes—I do not know that the policeman is here who went with me into the station-house—the policeman that was in the station at the time it—the valet was
there—when I went into the station, the policeman said to me, "Do you know either of these men?"—I said, "That is the man," and I am certain he is the man—Fuller said, "Can you swear to me?"—I said, "Swear, I won't exactly swear to you"—he then said, "Oh, she says she won't swear to me"—I said, "Yes, I will, I will swear to you, side face and full face too, although you are dressed very differently to what you were the day I saw you"—his coat was different—the day I first saw him he had a snuff-coloured cloth coat, and the day he was taken he had a kind of pepper and salt dress, with pockets at each side—I do not know what stuff they call it—it was not a fustian jacket—I said "I will not exactly swear to you"—I think those were the words I used—we went directly to Queen-square—before I took the book in my hand—I said, "I won't swear to this man"—the Magistrate said, "You are come here to speak the truth to the best of your belief"—I said, "I will speak the truth to the best of my belief," and I had more confidence in myself when I said so, but the word "swear," had that impression on me, but I said I was positive he was the man, and so I was.
MR. BODKIN. Q. After you left Mr. Thurlow's service, if I understand you rightly, you went into the service of Captain Bulkeley? A. Yes, Mrs. Thurlow wrote my character to Mrs. Bulkeley—it was in consequence of that I entered Captain Bulkeley's service—I am now going back to Captain Bulkeley's service—Captain Bulkeley wrote to me on the Monday after his lordship's death—the reason I said I would not swear to Fuller was, because the word "swear" had such an impression on me—I would speak the truth to the best of my belief, and I do believe he is the man—if I had been asked even, "Will you take your oath?" I would have said, "I will," but the word "swear" had such an impression upon me—I believe there were about three or four persons at the station—Fuller was mixed with them.
MR. DOANE. Q. When you saw Fuller at the police-court, was he dressed in the same way that he had been at the station? A. Yes, just the same, because we went straight from the police-station to Queen-Square—I think he was dressed the same at every examination, but I am not certain—I did not take particular notice.
RICHARD BULL . I live at No. 16, Belgrave-terrace, Vauxhall-bridge-road. I am not in any business—I have been a gentleman's servant—I called at Lord Fitzgerald's house on the day in question, to see Smith, the butler—Howse came in while I was with him—I was about leaving the house, when Smith asked me to go and see his beer that he had been brewing for Lord Fitzgerald—I went with him through the kitchen to the cellar—Smith was then called to go up stairs—I remained in the kitchen with Mrs. Williams, the cook—I was sitting at the further side of the kitchen, opposite the door—Thorpe was sent out by Smith to fetch some beer—I remember his coming in and closing the door after him—I am certain he did so, for I heard the door shut to—soon after there was an alarm of the robbery having been committed—I had not moved out of the kitchen from the time Smith left, until the alarm was given—I heard them speaking about the robbery at the kitchen door, went out, and was told of it—from the time I heard the door close when Thorpe came in with the beer, until the alarm of the robbery was given, I never heard any one come in at this door, and I never heard the door open.
Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT TALFOURD. Q. When Howse was there, had you your hat on or off? A. Off—I was standing up, to the best of my knowledge—I cannot tell whether Howse knew I was going away—he did
not know whether I was going to stay, or go, as far as I know—I did not see him again till after the alarm.
ANN BARNES . I am in the service of Mr. William Russell, of No. 50, Belgrave-square, nearly opposite the house of the late Lord Fitzgerald. On Saturday, the 13th of May, in the forenoon, I saw a horse and cart standing below the area gate of Lord Fitzgerald's house, and a man with it—I believe I saw that cart standing there an hour—I then saw two persons come up the area steps of Lord Fitzgerald's house, with a plate chest—that was about half-past twelve—they put the chest into the hinder part of the cart—one man then secured up the cart, and the others went and got up into the cart—the other got up directly, and all three drove off very quick.
JURY. Q. As you saw the cart standing there so long, did you take any particular notice of who it belonged to? A. I did not—I was at the top of the house on the opposite side of the street, of which it is the corner.
ALEXANDER M'CULLOCH (police-constable B 5.) I went to Lord Fitzgerald's house on the day the robbery was discovered, and examined the premises—I think a person could get through this scroll in the railing—(referring to the model)—and drop down into the area—they would have to drop upwards of seven feet—I examined the state of the area immediately under that spot—I found there a quantity of dry dust blown up by the wind into that part of the area, it being then dry weather—I found no mark of footsteps, and I should deem it impossible that any person could have dropped down on that spot without leaving the impression of footsteps.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. When did you make the examination? A. About one o'clock—immediately after the robbery—I communicated the result of my examination to the inspector of the division immediately—I was not examined at the office—I made a statement at Lord Fitzgerald's—the dust I examined was formed across the area, towards the doorway.
MR. BODKIN. Q. The scroll you speak of is applicable to this short cross will only? A. The cross part—all along here are high iron palisades—(referring to the model.)
WILLIAM FIELD (police-constable B 101.) On the 15th of May, in consequence of what I heard from Woodbridge, I went to No. 21, George-street, Grosvenor-square, about half-past twelve o'clock, and took Fuller into custody—I told him I took him on suspicion of being a party connected with a plate robbery, and there was a cart had taken it away, which had the tailboard broken—I found a cart outside Fuller's house, which had the tailboard broken, and which answered the description of the cart—he said that cart had only been out on Saturday, the day of the robbery, to Covent-garden-market, and had returned about eleven—I had mentioned the day on which the robbery was committed—he said he afterwards went out to load some pictures, and the cart was not out afterwards—the pictures were not loaded in the cart, but in a van—he did not say what time he had come home—he said, after going to load the pictures, he returned home, and was not out afterwards—I took him to Ebury-square station—I then went to Lord Fitzgerald's, and desired that Mrs. Williams might have the opportunity of seeing him there—I did not go with her to the station.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Have you been examined before? A. Yes, at Mr. Bicknell's office—this is the first time I have been examined on oath—I took possession of Fuller's cart, and kept it fourteen days—I then sent it back again to Fuller.
was in custody charged on suspicion of stealing Lord Fitzgerald's plate—he said he knew there was, it was the man that moved Lord Fitzgerald's pictures, Fuller—on the following morning as I was about to take him before the Magistrate, he told me he was innocent of the robbery—I told him I knew nothing whatever about that, but it was stated that a man was introduced to his lordship's house on the Friday, the day previous to the robbery—he said that no person whatever had been to see him on the Friday, nor had he introduced anybody to his lordship's house on the evening of that day—he said that in the presence of his brother—I presume it was then pretty well known that Fuller was in custody—after saying it was Fuller that moved Lord Fitzgerald's pictures, he said, "That man I will swear I have not seen for the last six months."
Cross-examined by MR. WILKINS. Q. How long have you been in the police? A. More than thirteen years—I am not aware that I have often made a mistake in that time—I dare say I have made many mistakes in my life—I am not aware that I have ever made a mistake in the report of a conversation since I have been in the police—I do not swear it positively—I will swear to the words House made use of—I positively swear I could not have mistaken the word "months" for "weeks."
JAMES DIGNUM . I am an attorney by profession. I am a prisoner in Horsemonger-lane gaol for debt—I know the prisoner Howse—he called on me while I was confined in Horsemonger-lane gaol—I do not remember on what day he first called—I had heard something about the state of Lord Fitzgerald's health at that time—I had read in the "Times" newspaper of his lordship's state of health—I cannot say whether it was the day I read that account that Howse first called on me—I think he called on me before his lordship's death.
Q. Now, in the course of conversation between you and Howse, did any thing transpire on the subject of his lordship? A. Why I should appeal to his Lordship whether I am bound to divulge any thing which on that occasion took place between Mr. Howse and myself.
COURT. Q. What objection can there be to divulging it? A. It might have been a confidential communication—I am an attorney of the Court—I do not know whether I had any case in hand for Howse, but I appeal to your Lordship with great deference and respect—I object to answer that question unless you desire me.
COURT. You bound to answer.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Now, what did he say, if any thing, about Lord Fitzgerald or his affairs? Witness. I had rather not answer that question. Court. But you must answer; it is not a matter of choice whether you would rather or not Witness. My Lord, I must take the consequences on myself, I will not answer the question; I claim your Lordship's protection; I am an attorney of the Courts.
COURT. Your being an attorney is no reason for not answering the question—I warn you, if you do not answer the question I shall commit you. Witness. Well, what is the question?
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Whether any conversation took place between you and Howse about Lord Fitzgerald? A. Yes—he said his lordship was very dangerously ill, and was not likely to survive—and he asked me if I could get a person that he could depend upon—I said, "You have been a very old and faithful servant of Lord Fitzgerald, and I think you had better leave well alone"—he said, "Well, I mean to take care of myself"—I have nothing more to say—he said nothing more—I said, "As you have been a very old and faithful servant I have no doubt his lordship has taken care of you, and
you had better let well alone"—I said that with truth and honour to him—he said the lawyer brought a codicil which he had witnessed a day or two before, and he had witnessed the signature of Lord Fitzgerald.
Q. Recollect, as well as you can, the precise words he used about the person whom he asked for? A. On my word I cannot recollect the precise words—he said he wanted a right sort of man.
COURT. Q. For what? A. Why to assist him in some speculation of his own.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Was that the language he used? A. He did not use the word "speculation"—he said he wanted a man that he could depend upon—he said nothing more—he did not explain to me the object for which he wanted him—nothing was mentioned in the course of conversation about any property of Lord Fitzgerald's—I gave him an account of such persons as he asked for—I said there was Mr. Pooke, in Bedford-street, Covent-garden and a man of the name of Lawrence, who bought stolen plate—that is what I told him—Mr. Clarkson, are you justified in putting these questions to me, because I may criminate myself?—I cannot recollect whether I told him that on the first or second occasion—I told him they were parties who were in the habit of purchasing stolen property—I told him who those parties were, from my professional knowledge, as yours may be—I knew the parties who would buy stolen property—I told him, "If you have any stolen plate, or any property of that description, there are parties, who live not very far from you, that will buy it of you, I dare say; but I recommend you to steer clear of all those transactions"—he told me that he meant to take care of himself—Howse fetched some wine—he brought a pint of sherry to me, I believe—I do not know how much it was—I did not measure it—it was brought in a quart bottle—the regulation of the prison is, that we shall have half-a-pint or a pint of wine a day, or a pint of porter, and he brought a-pint of wine—when he left me on that occasion, he told me to get a man that he could depend upon—he did not say when he should come again—I remember reading the announcement of Lord Fitzgerald's death in the newspaper—I think it was the day before I read that, that Howse came again—I cannot recollect at what time, it was about the middle of the day—he then told me that his lordship was dead, that he died with his hand in his, and he meant to take care of himself—he meant to have the horses and carriages—I said, "Don't make a fool of yourself, I have no doubt, from your faithful services, that Lord Fitzgerald has taken care of you, provided for you"—I do not remember saying anything about the funeral—he asked me if I could tell him any persons that would buy some plate—it was then that I mentioned to him the names of the two persons I have already given—he said they were a very bad lot, he did not like them—I cannot say whether Howse was acquainted with either of those persons, I think he knew them—I am not sure whether he did or not—I do not recollect anything else that transpired on that second conversation—I afterwards made a communication to Mr. Bicknell, one of Lord Fitzgerald's executors, in consequence of which he visited me—that was after I had heard of the robbery.
Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT TALFOURD. Q. When was it you made the communication to Mr. Bicknell? A. I cannot recollect, I made no memorandum—it was immediately after the transaction—I do not now recollect the day on which I made it—it was immediately after the interview with Mr. Howse—I cannot say whether I made it on the same day or not—I made it soon after I know.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Was the communication you made to Mr. Bicknell in writing? A. It was.
MR. SERGEANT TALFOURD. Q. Was it on the same day or not? A. I cannot say whether it was or not—I made it in writing, sir—whether I sent that writing on the same day on which Howse had this conversation with me, I do not know—I did not know at the time I made that communication that a reward of 100l. had been offered—I swear that—there was no reward that I know of at that time—I never heard of any reward being offered—you are the first person that has intimated to me that there is a reward—I never knew it before.
Q. When was the time you mentioned to Howse the names of Mr. Pooke and some one else? A. What he called Jack Pooke and Sam Lawrence, who are receivers of stolen property.
Q. I thought you had named them to him? A. I said, "If you want to deal in that way, you had better go to those parties, but I advise you to have nothing to do with them"—I cannot tell whether it was at the first or second interview that I mentioned those names to Howse—we had, I think, two or three interviews—I should say two—I cannot say—I will not confine myself to two or three—there might have been more—there were not more than three, but I would rather say two—I have been in Horsemonger-lane gaol nearly two months, and I think the debts against me are about 13l. or 14l.—I have eleven children.
Q. Have you often been in prison before? A. I was in Horsemonger-lane before, and I paid my debts—I was in the Queen's Bench, when his lordship presided, for horsewhipping an attorney—I think that is nearly all the prisons I have been in—I can tell you—I will go into the history of my life—I was committed to the Queen's Bench, by the sentence of the court, for the assault on the attorney, and I think about twenty-five years ago I was tried for an offence which I will not name here, because there are ladies present—it was for an assault, and I was honourably acquitted—those are the only times I have been in prison—I was never in prison for fraud, conspiracy, or perjury, or for keeping a gaming-house—I was indicted, as I tell you, for horsewhipping an impudent attorney—I have never been in the habit of giving advice where persons could dispose of stolen property—I never mentioned the names of persons who would purchase—I cannot say whether it was before or after I mentioned those names to Howse that the wine was fetched—I am very poor, Mr. Serjeant Talfourd—I have got eleven children—there is no great crime in poverty, I think, in this country—I have done some professional business for Howse—I wrote to him before he called on me—I cannot say how soon after I wrote to him he called on me—it was very soon afterwards—it was not a month—I cannot say whether it was a week—I should say it was a day or two afterwards.
Q. What was your object in writing to him? A. Why I have known the man a long time, and I respected the man—I knew him when he was in the Navy—my object in writing to him was not to borrow money—perhaps I said I regretted to hear of his difficulties, and should be very glad to see him; or something of that kind.
Q. What difficulties? A. He was apprehended for a felony when I wrote to him.
COURT. Q. You were asked whether you wrote to him before he came to you in the prison? A. I think when I came into that prison for debt for a few pounds, if my recollection serves me, I wrote to Mr. Howse, to say that I was in Horsemonger-lane gaol for debt, and I think in consequence of that he called on me—I do not know how long that was before he called on me—I made no memorandum.
I remember the prisoner Howse coming there in a gig, with a servant in livery, about a month ago, or it might not be above three weeks, or it might be five weeks, I do not recollect—he asked for a person named Dignum—we had the witness Dignum in custody there at that time—he is brought up here to-day by habeas—after asking for Dignum he went into the gaol—he asked me if wine was allowed to come in—I am not positive whether that was before he went in, or whether he came out for it—I said, "If the gentleman has not had his beer"—I took up my list, and saw he had not had his beer—I said a pint of wine was allowed, and I allowed a pint of wine to go in—Howse took it in—I think he went and fetched it—I am not positive as to that, but a pint of wine came in—the gig was waiting there for some considerable time—a question was put to me by the governor of the gaol about that gig, and the person that was with it, and I gave him an answer—I think Howse was in the prison altogether an hour, if not more; but I cannot positively say.
CHARLES STEPHEN FRYER . I am one of the turnkeys on the debtors' side of Horsemonger-lane gaol. I had a person, named Dignum, in custody there, for debt, about four or five weeks ago—I remember Howse coming there to inquire for him—I opened the gate for him—I saw no gig—I am turnkey of the inner-gate—he went out after he had been in some time and returned a second time with some wine in a bottle—he staid somewhere about an hour, or an hour and a half—he came again to the best of my recollection, on the following day—he did not stay quite so long that time.
JOHN PATTEN . I am confined in Horsemonger-lane gaol for debt, I know Dignum, who is also confined there. About four or five weeks ago I remember a person coming to speak to Dignum in the gaol—I cannot say how long I saw them in conversation—I saw him talking to Dignum—I did not see him leave—when he first came, before he was admitted within the inclosure which confines the prisoners, Dignum said, "That is Mr. Howse"—to the best of my recollection, Howse is the person.
JOHN LAURENCE BICKNELL, ESQ . I have been for many years a solicitor, residing in London. I was concerned for the late Lord Fitzgerald in his lifetime, and am one of his executors—I produce the probate of his will—I received a communication in writing from a person of the name of Dignum—I knew nothing of him until that time—in consequence of the contents of that communication, I went to Horsemonger-lane gaol to Mr. Dignum—I think the prisoners had then been fully committed for trial—it was on Friday, in the last week, that I went to Dignum—Lord Fitzgerald died on the 11th of May—the day before I prepared a codicil at his lordship's house, which he executed there—Howse was one of the witnesses to it, and Smith the butler, the other—I am not aware that any one knew of such an instrument having been executed, except myself, the persons before whom it was executed, and the family.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. How soon, after receiving that communication, did you see Dignum? A. I was just going off to South-ampton, and immediately took a cab and went up to the place—I saw him within half an hour—the two prisoners Were in custody long before that, and I think had been fully committed.
EDWARD CANE, ESQ . I was confidential secretary to the late Lord Fitzgerald, and am one of his executors. I made an arrangement of my own accord with regard to the servants' mourning—I thought it probable that the establishment would be broken up, and merely ordered plain mourning for them, not livery mourning—I directed them to continue in the service till they received the warning that is usually given—the tailor was a person engaged by myself—the executors have paid the servants the wages due to them and
for their services, since his lordship's death—I resided in the house some few days after his lordship's death as one of the executors.
Cross-examined by MR. WILKINS. Q. When did you give the tailor order to come to the house? A. I sent for him on the Friday evening, but none of the servants in the house could have known it, because I sent my own servant—I was in the house during the time the servants were being measured—I had seen Howse shortly before that—I think I had given him instructions to see that the servants attended the tailor.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Are you acquainted with Fuller's father? A. No; I was not aware of his father being sometimes engaged by his lordship to purchase pictures for him; nor of the prisoner Fuller being employed at any time to carry any such pictures—my connexion with Lord Fitzgerald was in a public capacity, but I knew a great deal of his private arrangements—I knew of his having pictures at Whitehall, and having them removed from his residence there, six or seven weeks before the robbery, to his residence in Belgrave-square—I do not remember who they were brought by.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. You say you ordered the tailor, and saw him on Friday night? A. I did not see him—my servant saw him—I did not communicate with Howse on the Friday night—the tailor came quite unexpectedly by the servants.
MR. DOANE called the following witnesses on behalf of Fuller.
ELIZABETH WITHAM . I am a dressmaker. I lodge with the prisoner Fuller's wife, and have done so five weeks, in George-street, Grosvenor-square—I came on the Friday, the 12th of May—I remember Fuller leaving home next morning about half-past nine o'clock, to go to Covent-garden market with one of his men, and his horse and cart—I saw him from the window go away with his horse and cart—he returned about a quarter to eleven, and went away again directly after putting a horse in his van, and went to Bond-street, to load some pictures—I saw him leave with the horse and van—I saw him again at twenty minutes to twelve—about ten minutes before twelve he went and put up a bag of wood in the cart, and went up to Portugal-street with a young lad—he returned at a quarter after twelve for money for a bill which I saw him take from a drawer in the room—he went out with it to go to Oxford-street—he returned at twenty minutes to one to dinner—I dined with him and his wife at one o'clock—the first time he went out after dinner was about half-past two as near as I can guess—I attended before the Magistrate.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Have you carried on the business of a dressmaker for any length of time? A. Not lately I have not—before I went to lodge with Mrs. Fuller I carried on my business at No. 29, King-street, Islington, with my mother—before that I had been living as servant with a lady in the Liverpool-road for twelve months—I am no relation of Fuller's—I knew his wife before she was married, and had been a fellow-servant with her, and on leaving service I returned to her—I did not go to my mother's, because I preferred coming up to this end of the town to going to my business again—I did not exactly intend to go to dress-making when I went to Mrs. Fuller's—Mrs. Fuller was ill, and I attended to her—I was doing nothing at all at this time—I have very respectable friends—I did not pay Mrs. Fuller for my board and lodging—I am staying there as a friend—the cart which Fuller went with at nine o'clock was the cart which had the tailboard broken—he has only one cart—I believe it was broken when he went out—I noticed it—I came there about five o'clock on Friday afternoon—the first I saw of the cart was at nine next morning—I did not take particular notice of it then—Dunn
went with him at nine—he went out with the van about a quarter to eleven, and returned at twenty minutes to twelve with the van, gave the man 1s. and a nose-bag, and went out again at ten minutes before twelve with the same cart that he had gone out with at nine o'clock—the tailboard was then hanging down, and was a little broken—I took particular notice of it then, as he was putting the bag of wood into the cart—I was standing at the window—a lad named George Hattersley went with him with the wood to Portugal-street.
MR. DOANE. Q. Was this a chaise-cart? A. No; Fuller had no chaise-cart.
JOHN CHAPLIN . I am a picture-dealer, and live at No. 88, New Bond-street. I had desired Fuller to call on me on Saturday, the 13th of May—he came about twenty minutes past eleven o'clock, with a horse and van, and a man to remove pictures—they were packed up in the van, and they left about a quarter or twenty minutes to twelve as near as I can guess—I was before the Magistrate three different times ready to be examined.
WILLIAM HENRY VINES . I am in Fuller's service as carman, and live in Pancras-street, Tottenham-court-road. On Saturday, the 13th of May, I went with Fuller to Mr. Chaplin's, in New Bond-street—after we left Bond-street, we went together as far as the end of George-yard, which leads from George-street into Duke-street, Grosvenor-square, close to the prisoner's house—we there parted—he was to send a lad down with money for coals—after I had received the money for the coals, and victuals for the horses, I went towards Hendon, and Fuller went towards his house.
GEORGE HATTERSLEY . I am thirteen years of age. I know Fuller—on the Saturday before he was taken into custody, I saw him at his door about a quarter to twelve o'clock, and asked his permission to ride in his cart—I went in the cart with him into Portugal-street—he had a bag of wood in the cart—we went to the house of a gentleman named Manson in Portugal-street—I know the time, because I saw the clock of Grosvenor chapel in South Audley-street—it was five minutes to twelve by it—he delivered the wood to a female-servant of Mr. Manson's—we then went round the other side of the square, came down Duke-street into Oxford-street, and so into George-street—a man named Dunn, who is in Fuller's service, put up the horse and cart in the stable—I then went home to dinner.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Look at that clock, what is the time by that? A. Twenty-five minutes to six.
ESTHER LONG . I am single, and live at Mr. Manson's, No. 5, Portugal-street, Grosvenor-square. I remember Fuller coming to the house on Saturday, the 13th of May, with some wood, about twelve o'clock—I know the time because I expected the butcher, and seeing the cart stop I thought it was the butcher—he came in a cart with a little boy—he did not stay many minutes—I did not see him at all before the Justice.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Why did you not go before the Justice? A. I was not asked to go.
MR. DOANE. Q. Were you at the office though you were not examined? A. Yes, but I was not inside the room—I was there waiting to be examined.
HOWSE— GUILTY . Aged 52.— Transported for Fifteen Years.
FULLER— NOT GUILTY .
First Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.
1768. HENRY TAYLOR and JOHN BODGER were indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Samuel Brown, on the 6th of June, at Edmonton, and stealing therein, 1 gun, value 1l. 10s., his property; and that Bodger had been before convicted of felony.
SAMUEL BROWN . I am owner of Dyson's cottage, in the parish of Edmonton. John Jackson, my servant, lives in it and sleeps there—I was at the cottage at ten o'clock on Tuesday, the 6th of June—I locked it up at one, and went home to dinner—I returned at five o'clock, and on the way I met my boy, who told me something—I went to the police-station, and there saw a Tottenham constable, who had taken a man with a gun—I went with him to the cottage, missed a gun, and went with him to the Tottenham station, and found the gun, which I had seen safe at one o'clock—I found the front window of the cottage broken all to atoms—a man could get in—there was some eggs and a waistcoat also taken, which were not found—I am certain the gun produced is mine.
WILLIAM HUSSEY . I am in the employ of Mr. Brown. I was going to milk the cows about five o'clock—after I had done I found the cottage broken open—I came home, met Mr. Brown, and told him—I know the prisoners—Taylor lived on the green near the cottage.
WILLIAM RIERDON . I am a policeman. I met the prisoners together on Tuesday evening, the 6th of June, at five o'clock, in company together—Taylor had the gun under his arm—I met them about two miles from Mr. Brown's house—as soon as I came up I took Taylor—Bodger ran away—I am sure he is the man.
ROBERT STEVENS . I am a policeman. I took Bodger into custody on suspicion of breaking into Brown's cottage—he said he knew nothing about it, he was not near the place, for he was at the Owl beer-shop from eleven o'clock in the day till four in the afternoon, then went to the Three Tuns, at Edmonton, remained there till eleven, and then went to bed.
Taylor's Defence. A man called me, and said he had got a gun; if I liked to run to Tottenham, and pawn it, he would give me 6d. to put it in the name of Whitbread; the policeman stopped me; I said I was going to pawn it for a man.
TAYLOR— GUILTY . Aged 21.
BODGER— GUILTY . * Aged 19.
Transported or Ten Years.
1769. LEWIS JONES was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Philip Isaacs, on the 24th of May, at St. Mary, Whitechapel, and stealing therein, 2 watches, value 6l.; 2 watch movements, 1l. 8s.; 4 watch cases, 4l.; 3 watch frames, 15s.; 24 watch hands, 10s.; and 28 watch-case bows, 1l.; the goods of George Isaacs.
GEORGE ISAACS . I live at No. 56, Great Prescot-street, Goodman's fields, in the parish of St. Mary, Whitechapel. On Wednesday, the 25th of May, I left work at eight o'clock—the workshop was not closed then—it joins the dwelling-house, and runs out from it—it is in the same yard—it is surrounded by a wall, and is part of the dwelling-house, and communicates with it—I received information next morning, and found two cash boxes broken open in the shop, and the drawers, and missed the articles stated in the indictment, which were worth about 13l.—it is my father's, Philip Isaacs, dwelling-house—the property is my own—these articles now produced, are parts of the watches which have been taken to pieces—I can swear to them all.
MARY ANN COWELL . I am servant to Philip Isaacs. On the night of the 24th of May I was the last person in the shop, and left it quite safe, a little after eight o'clock—the shutter and door were bolted and locked—I went
again next morning, at half-past six, found the window closed, and the shutter put to—the bolt was wrenched off the shutter, two cases of watches broken open, and property gone.
CHARLES JUTSUM . I am shopman to Mr. Thompson, pawnbroker, of Commercial-road. I produce a watch, which the witnesses Hollowell and Goodland brought to pledge, about twenty minutes to twelve o'clock, on Saturday, the 27th of May—I had received information, and stopped it.
ELMY WYATT . I live in Tenter-ground, at the back of the prosecutor's house, and am a cow-keeper. The prisoner is my nephew, and lived with me—he slept in the loft adjoining the prosecutor's yard—I saw him at home on the night of the robbery.
ELIZABETH HOLLOWELL . I know the prisoner—he came to my lodgings three times—he came on Friday, the 26th of May, showed me a watch, and said it was his own—he gave it to me on Saturday, and asked me to pawn it—I took it to Thompson's, and was stopped.
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Ten Years.
(There was another indictment against the prisoner.)
JANE ALEXANDER . I live in Cottage-court, Orchard-street, Westminster. On the 1st of June I met the prisoner at the top of York-street, with another woman—I had seen her before—she asked how it was I had not been to Knightsbridge lately—I said I had not time—they followed me to the middle of York-street—she there crossed the road, and struck me a violent blow on the forehead with a key, or something—I was covered with blood, and could not discern what it was—as I was being taken to the doctor's, she flew at me, and tore part of my dress off—I never had an angry word with her, or gave her the slightest offence.
Prisoner. I had nothing; I was taken to the station directly, and nothing found on me; I struck her with my fist; she asked me for 2d., and struck me. Witness. I did not ask her for 2d.; I never raised my hand to her.
JAMES COOK . I was in York-street, and saw the prisoner go and lay hold of the prosecutrix's hair—she had not said or done any thing to her—I ran across and separated them—the prosecutrix was bleeding—the prisoner had a small key, and struck her several times with it—we separated them—the prisoner followed us forty yards to the surgeon's shop, and tore her gown.
FRANCES BROWN . I saw a crowd and saw the prisoner with a key in her hand—they took the prosecutrix to a surgeon's—she followed and tore her gown—I said, "Oh, you wretch, cannot you throw the key away, and strike with your hand?"—she said, "Oh, it is an old grudge"—the key was bloody when she swung it in her hand afterwards.
JOHN GEORGE . I saw the prisoner, prosecutrix, and a female, in York-street—the prisoner deliberately caught hold of the prosecutrix by her hair, and dashed her head against the railing—I ran up, and I and the witness had the greatest difficulty to rescue her—she got before us in going to the doctor's, and tore her apron off—I caught hold of her hand—I saw a key in it.
THOMAS HICKEY . I am a policeman. I was called by Crook, who said the prisoner had almost killed a woman—I saw her apron covered with blood but no marks of violence on her—I took her to the station, and there she
said she only struck her with her hand—the prosecutrix was in the hospital, and was considered in danger at first.
Prisoner's Defence. I had no key.
GUILTY of an Assault. — Confined Four Months.
1771. RICHARD SMITH was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Anthony Smith, on the 3rd of June, at St. George, Hanover-square, and stealing therein, 1 coat, value 10s.; 1 gown, 15s.; and 1 handkerchief, 1s.; his goods; and that he had been before convicted of felony.
AARON SMITH . I live in Mount-pleasant, Mount-street, Grosvenor-square,—the prisoner is my son, his mother is living. I left my house at seven o'clock in the morning, on the 3rd of June, with my wife—I locked the door—I am a coachman—I returned at half-past nine in the evening, and found the house forced open, the screws drawn from the woodwork of the door—I lost a suit of clothes and handkerchief, my wife's shawl and gown—this is my handkerchief—the prisoner had it on his neck when he was taken, the same night, about twenty minutes to twelve o'clock—this coat is mine.
GUILTY . Aged 24.— Transported for Ten Years.
Before Mr. Justice Cresswell.
1772. JEREMIAH SULLIVAN was indicted for feloniously assaulting Dennis Driscol, on the 2nd of May, and cutting and wounding him in and upon his face, and left side of his neck, with intent to kill and murder him.—2nd COUNT, stating his intent to be to maim and disable him: and, 3rd COUNT, to do some grievous bodily harm.
MR. E. PLATT conducted the Prosecution.
DENNIS DRISCOL . I am a labourer, and live at Mill-wall, Poplar. On Monday night, the 23rd of May, between twelve and one o'clock, the prisoner came to the house where I live to ask for a light—I asked my mother for one to give him—he said, "Never mind the light, I want to speak to you for a minute or two"—he called me out, and asked me what I had hit him for the night before—I had not done so—it was my brother-in-law—I told him it was not my fault, and I supposed he wanted to kick up a row—I asked him what made him come at that time at night—I saw his two hands in his pocket—he pulled his hands out of his pocket, and was going to hit me—I knocked his hands off, and hit him—he then hit me again on the side of my neck—then we hit one another, and I knocked him down—I did not see anything in his hand, but felt a knife go into my lip—it cut my mouth—I hallooed out that he had cut me with a knife—I knocked him down, and took the knife away from him—he tried to get away, but I held him, and gave him up to the policeman—I cannot remember the first time I saw the knife in his hand—it was not before I fell on him—I gave the knife to the policeman.
COURT. Q. It was when you fell on him that the knife cut you? A. Yes—it was not by raising his hand, and stabbing at me, but he hit me with the knife before—the cut in the mouth was not the first cut I received—that was in the neck.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Are you the son of Patrick Driscol? A. Yes—there had been a wedding the day before at my father's house, of one of my sisters—the prisoner had not been there drinking the the whole of that day—not before the afternoon—I think he left about nine—that was the day he was turned out of the house—the following day he came and drank with me again—there was nothing done to affront him then—he was drinking with me Monday night—he came in about ten—I had been at work all the day, and had not seen him before—I did not notice that he had any tobacco when he came to me—I have seen negro-head tobacco—I cannot say that I have seen the prisoner use it—it requires a knife to cut it—he did not ask me who tore his shirt and clothes off last night—he asked me who it was that hit him the night before—I did not say, "Yes I did, you b----r, and I I will do it again"—both his hands were in his pockets—I saw him take one hand out of his pocket—when he was going to hit me, I struck him a violent blow—I cannot say where—he was not drunk—he had been drinking at our house that night for about an hour or an hour and a half—I did not hear of his having said anything about my sister, but he called my brother-in-law a liar—I had heard of that at the time this took place, and I was very angry with him for that—he struck me a violent blow in the side of my neck with the knife—here is the mark of it—it was immediately after that, I knocked him down—I caught hold of him before I knocked him down—he fell on his back, and I fell on him—my hands were at his throat, squeezing him pretty tight—he was not endeavouring to get me off him—he was lying quite quiet—I have a mark under my chin—I cannot say when that was struck—the blows I complain of are one on the neck, one under the chin, one on the lip, and another in front of my shoulder—my father came out when he heard me cry out—the prisoner was on the ground at that time, and I was on the top of him, taking the knife away from him—my father did not begin to kick him—he did not touch him, that I know of.
MR. E. PLATT. Q. Are you quite sure he came up and struck you before you touched him? A. Yes—I had done nothing to make him angry before that.
MICHAEL DRISCOL . I am the brother of Dennis Driscol, and live in the same house with him. On the Sunday night, about ten o'clock, the prisoner came into the house, and kicked up a row—my brother-in-law turned him out—on Monday, the 23rd, they were keeping it up, and he came in about eleven, and stopped there till his mates were going home—he afterwards came back again to the door, and asked my brother for a light—my brother fetched one, and as he came to the door, he said he did not want the light, he wanted to speak to him outside the door a minute, and when he went out the prisoner knocked him down—my brother had not said anything to him before that—my brother got up and hit him—they hit each other, and knocked one another down—I saw the prisoner put his hand into his pocket, but could not tell what he took out—I did not see any more till my brother got up, all streaming with blood, and said, "Oh, you have stabbed me with a knife, have you?"—he took hold of the prisoner, and took the knife out of his hand—the policeman happened to come along, and he gave him the knife.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you see your father come out? A. Yes—when my brother said, "How could you stab me with a knife?"—he did not do anything, only got hold of the prisoner just at the time the policeman came—
the prisoner was then standing up, and he attempted to run away—I think my father took hold of his shoulder—I did not see him kick him—the prisoner was down twice—he got up, and was knocked down again—I am quite certain of it—he was not on the ground when he put his hand into his pocket.
EDWIN BEVIS (police-constable K 243.) On the 23rd, between twelve and one o'clock, I was on duty at Milwall, Poplar, and heard a cry of, "Murder" and "Police"—I went to Carter's-row, where the noise seemed to come from, and saw the prosecutor covered with blood—he said he had been stabbed, gave me this knife, showed me a wound on the side of his neck, and told me to take the prisoner into custody—the prisoner was standing among five or six others who surrounded him—I took him—he said he had his revenge, and he hoped I should do all I could for him.
Cross-examined. Q. Was Driscol's father one of those round him? A. Yes—I did not see him doing anything to him—the prisoner had blood on his face and on the front of his shirt—I could not tell whether the blood came from himself—his face was covered with blood, and so was the front of his shirt—his eye was blackened—I did not see any other wounds, nor any cuts in his face—I did not see any other wounds but the blow in the eye—I cautioned him, that what he stated to me I should state to the Magistrate, before he said he had had his revenge—I believe he is an Irishman.
JOHN KEELEY . I am a surgeon, and live in High-street, Poplar. About a quarter before two o'clock in the morning of the 24th I was called on to go to the prosecutor at Poplar station—I observed a large cut on the side of his chin, one on the mouth, and another in the neck—they were incised cuts, and—the cut itself was not dangerous—I believe it bled a good deal previous to my attending him.
Cross-examined. The wound itself in the neck was a merely superficial wound? A. Exactly so.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY of an Assault. Aged 26.— Confined Eighteen Months.
OLD COURT.—Monday, June 19th, 1843.
Third Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.
GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined Ten Days and Whipped.
1774. WILLIAM HARRISON and WILLIAM CAREY were indicted for stealing, on the 13th of June, 40lbs. weight of coals, value 4d., the goods of Edward Green, in a barge in a port of entry and discharge; to which they both pleaded
GUILTY .— Confined Ten Days, and Whipped.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY .— Confined One Month.
1777. SARAH LAYLER was indicted for feloniously forging and uttering an accountable receipt for 5l., with intent to defraud Robert Tyreman.—Other COUNTS, stating her intent to defraud Edward Adolphus, Duke of Somerset, and others.
MR. PAYNE conducted the Prosecution.
ROBERT TYREMAN . In April last I lodged with the prisoner, in Hungerford-market. I have an account at the Provident Institution Savings Bank, St. Martin's-place—here is the book in which my payments are entered—on the 17th of April I gave the prisoner this book, with 5l. to pay into the bank—I got the book again in three or four days—she gave it to me, but I did not look at it at the time—I had occasion to go to the bank, on the 27th of May, to draw some money out—my attention was then drawn to the entry, and on returning home I told the prisoner she had put but 4l. into the bank—she said she had put 5l. in—she made a different statement next day, but I had told her it would be better to tell the truth.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. How long had you lodged with her? A. Fifteen months—she had taken money for me before, and everything was correct—she is married.
FREDERICK RESIUS . I am clerk at the savings bank, St. Martin's-place. On the 17th of April 4l. only was paid into the account of Tyreman—I have the entry here in my cash-book—here is my initial against the payment in the prosecutor's book—4l. was the sum entered when I wrote that—it is now altered to 5l.
Cross-examined. Q. You have no recollection of it except from the book? A. No—it is from the book alone that 1 speak; I have no recollection of it even by looking at the book.
MR. PAYNE. Q. Do you mean that when you look at the book you do not know that you received only 4l.? A. I know I received but 4l. decidedly—I enter here all the sums I receive—the alteration it not the writing of any person at the bank.
COURT. Q. From the book itself you do not know what the sum is that was paid? A. It is now 5l. in the depositor's book—there has been an erasure—by looking at the book itself I cannot tell what the original entry was—I speak from my cash-book—here are two letters and a figure altered—I do not remember the transaction itself.
FARQUHAR EUSTACE RILEY . I am a clerk in the savings bank. I remember this deposit-book being brought on the 17th of April quite well—I cannot say who brought it, but a person came to me and stated they wished to deposit 4l.—I immediately wrote 4l. in letters, and the figure 4, in this deposit-book, then passed the book to Mr. Resius, the cashier—that would be a guide to him as to the sum he was to receive—the figure "4" has since been altered to "5," and the word "four" also.
Cross-examined. Q. The parties first come to you, and you put down the sum in the book? A. They must state the sum before I put it down—ours is a large office—there are a great many people there—I put down the amount before the money is paid—Mr. Resius afterwards calls the name over, a person answers, and he says, "Four pounds;" and when Mr. Resius has received the 4l. he puts his initials, as receiving the amount—there are frequently a great many people waiting to deposit money, quite a crowd—the books are taken in rotation, and sometimes a quarter of an hour may elapse between my putting the amount down and its being paid in—the depositor never hands the book to the cashier—sometimes I take it to him, and often another clerk.
"Is it for your business"—he said "Yes"—she said, "God help me"—as I took her to the station she said she did not wish to defraud any soul of a penny, and had she known he was going to take the money out so soon, she would have altered the figure again.
Cross-examined. Q. This was after a promise had been made to her by Tyreman? A. Yes.
MR. RESIUS. The Duke of Somerset is a trustee of the bank—I do not know his description.
NOT GUILTY .
Before Mr. Recorder.
1778. HENRY MATTHIAS, ROBERT BROWN, MARY ANN HILL, CHARLOTTE MARTIN , and JOHN STACEY , were indicted for together feloniously assaulting George Frederick Wood, on the 2nd of June, putting him in fear and danger of his life, and stealing from his person and against his will, 1 hat, value 5s.; 1 handkerchief, 4s.; 1 pocket-book, 1s.; 5 sovereigns; 5 10l. and 1 5l. Bank notes, his property; and immediately before, at the time of, and after the said robbery, beating, striking, and using other personal violence to him.
MR. WILKINS conducted the Prosecution.
GEORGE FREDERICK WOOD . I live in Circus-road, St. John's-wood. On Friday night, the 2nd of June, I was returning home from Bow—I got to Whitechapel-road at near twelve o'clock, within ten minutes of twelve—I had drank something, but was sober—when I came into Whitechapel-road I met two females and a man walking together—I asked them where there was a cab-stand—the two females caught hold of my arm, and said they would show me where there was a stand—I cannot recognize either of the female prisoners as the persons—I walked some little distance to discover a stand, and felt them pulling me by the arms—I was afterwards knocked down, and rendered senseless, in a certain measure—I was so stunned, I had no power left, and was robbed—I had, when I left Bow, five 10l. and one 5l. notes, and five sovereigns—the notes were pinned into my right waistcoat pocket—I am quite positive the notes and money were in my pocket when I left Bow, and after that I was not in contact with any person, or in any situation in which that money could be taken out—it was inside, and my coat was buttoned—I felt a person's hand in that waistcoat pocket twice distinctly, and at the same time I felt a tugging—that is the first thing I remember after I was knocked down, while I was on the ground, I had not strength to resist—the next thing I recollect was the policeman coming up—I was lifted off the ground—my hat was gone—I remember feeling it taken off, after the money was taken—I did not see who did it—I was quite stunned from the blow, and paralysed in a measure—I lost all my strength—I was knocked down not more than two or three minutes after seeing the females, in my estimation—I had a pocketbook and handkerchief in my hind coat pocket—they were also taken.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. You are a gentleman of property are you? A. Yes; I receive an allowance from my brother—I had been to visit a person at Bow—I walked, as there was no omnibus—I had left home in the morning with my money—I had received it the day before—I was going to pay it away—the greater part of it was due to a person in Gray's-inn—if I had gone to town earlier I might have paid it away—I received it at a banker's—I have not seen any of the notes since—I will not say I might not ask somebody for a cab-stand previous to meeting the females, but I avoided coming in contact with anybody, recollecting I had the money—I asked the question of a man about a quarter of an hour before I met them—
I did not walk with him—he was going in an opposite direction—I believe nobody else came to me, but will not swear it—I will swear I entered into no conversation with any one—I felt the hand put into my pocket while on the ground, and tried to keep hold of it, but I had not strength.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Did you come into Whitechapel-road by the fields, or along the high road? A. Along the road—I am not in business—I have funded property of my own—I do not keep money at a banker—I had come through Mile-end gate—my friend at Bow did not know I had this money.
COURT. Q. Who is the banker where you received it? A. Gosling's—I had it on the 1st of June.
MR. WILKINS. Q. What is your brother? A. An officer in the army—I received 65l.
MARGARET WHITE . I live in Wentworth-street, and am on the town. On Friday night, the 2nd of June, I was at the Pavilion theatre, in Whitechapel-road, with Garland—we came out at twelve o'clock—I saw the prisoner Martin go up to a man and call him as he was standing at the door of the Gardener's public-house—she said to him, "Come along, make haste, here is a chance;" or some such words—he followed her—in about five minutes I saw Mr. Wood and the two female prisoners with him, one having hold of each arm—I knew Martin before—I am certain of her—Hill had on a lilac-coloured frock, a dark shawl, and a blue velvet bonnet with red ribbons—I saw a bonnet in the hands of Alderman, the constable, before the Magistrate—it was such a bonnet as she had on—I pointed Bannister out the morning after the robbery, to the constable, as the person who had been with Mr. Wood—she was dressed the same as the prisoner Hill.
Q. When the two girls took hold of Mr. Wood, what did they do? A. They walked with him a little distance—they stood opposite the Earl of Effingham public-house—there were five men behind Mr. Wood—I saw those five men search his coat-pockets—I thought I saw them draw something out of his coat-pocket, but cannot say whether it was his coat they lifted up, or a handkerchief—the two females then let go of his arm, and the two men took his arms—I saw one man put his hand down his coat—the prisoner Stacey, I am quite sure, is the man who did that—I did not know him before—I saw him walking with the gentleman—I saw him put his hand down inside his coat, which was not buttoned—there was several more men behind—there was a crowd assembled—I was standing at a distance, and saw Mr. Wood knocked down—the two women were in the crowd all this time—I know the prisoner Brown, he was in the crowd—I saw him speak to the men who ran away, two or three times—he did not appear to be doing any thing but looking about—he looked from one man to another, and then spoke to them again—I saw him first in the crowd before Mr. Wood was knocked down—after he was knocked down the men ran down Black Lion-yard—Brown remained on the spot for some minutes—I saw Martin go off directly after the men left, with a hat in her hand—five or six of them went together—Stacey ran away with the others—I fetched a constable—when I returned with him, I think I saw Brown there, but will not be sure—I noticed Mr. Wood when he was walking between the females, and thought he was rather intoxicated—he appeared quite senseless when he got up.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Did you know the two girls before? A. I had seen one of them once or twice before—I positively swear it was Martin who called the man from the public-house—the people were coming out of the theatre at the time—there was not a crowd at the public-house door—I cannot say whether the hat was snatched out of
Martin's hand—the girls were walking with him when the men searched his pockets—whether they saw what the men were doing I cannot say, their heads were turned away—he was knocked down about five minutes after they let go of him—I do not know how he was knocked down, his head was by the doorway, and six or eight men about him at the time.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Bannister, on Monday, wore the bonnet and shawl Hill wore that night? A. Yes, I am positive of the bonnet and shawl—I had not seen Hill before.
ELIZA GARLAND . I live in Wentworth-street. I went with White on the 2nd of June, to the Pavilion—I know Martin—when we came out I saw Martin run to a young man who stood at the Gardeners' public-house, and say, "Here, come, here is a chance;" or some such words—he followed her shortly after—I then saw five young men behind Mr. Wood, feeling the outside of his pockets with their hands—there were two women, one on each side Mr. Wood—I know them both by sight—I know Martin was one—I cannot say whether Hill was the other—she was the same height as Hill—I know Brown—he was among the men in the crowd, talking to the young man who was on the right-hand side of Mr. Wood—as soon as the women left Mr. Wood, two young men took his arms—Brown was at that time alongside those men—on the right-hand side—they walked Mr. Wood a little further, then he seemed as if he was knocked down—he was laid on the ground—the men immediately ran up Black Lion-yard—a few minutes after Martin ran up the same turning with a hat in her hand—Brown staid a few minutes, and then walked away—I was two or three yards before Mr. Wood when he was knocked down—I was behind him at first—I turned round on hearing the men run, and saw Mr. Wood on the ground—I did not see him knocked down—I believe Stacey is the man who was on his right hand—I saw that man put his hand down the right-hand of Mr. Wood's coat.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. You saw him knocked down? A. No—I saw him standing there, then saw him down—they all scampered off immediately—there were a great many people in the road coming out of the theatre—he was knocked down about a hundred yards from the theatre—there were thirty or forty people about.
MR. WILKINS. Q. How many were there about the prosecutor? A. Seven or eight—a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes elapsed from my first seeing him till he was knocked down.
MR. WOOD re-examined. I received my cheque from Mr. Marris, a solicitor, and got it cashed at Gosling's.
EDWARD PAYNE . I am clerk to Messrs. Gosling. On the 1st of June I paid a cheque of 64l., drawn by Hicks and Marris, in the name of G. F. Wood, with five 10l. notes, one 5l. note, and 10l. in money—I have a memorandum of it which I took from my book—I recollect it without reference to the paper.
ANN BANNISTER . I live in Plummer's-row, Whitechapel. On Saturday morning, the 3rd of June, I saw Mary Ann Martin with the prisoner Hill, and went with them into Osborne-street—while 1 was walking with them Hill asked if I would exchange bonnets with her—she said she wanted to go to see the prisoner Charlotte Martin, that she was frightened that the two girls that were witnesses against Charlotte Martin would know her again up at Lambeth-street if she went there—I lent her my bonnet—she gave me hers in exchange, and we exchanged shawls—she did not say where she had been the night before, or explain what she meant by their knowing her—I went down to the police-court with Hill's bonnet and shawl, and was taken into custody.
June, I was on duty in Whiteechapel-road from a quarter to twenty minutes to twelve o'clock—White and Garland gave me information, in consequence of which I went to Trumpet-court, Whitechapel-road, and found Mr. Wood there—a constable had raised him up—I thought him a great deal the worse for liquor—White and Garland described the dress of one of the girls, and from that information I apprehended Martin in Montague-street—there were ten or twelve people with her, men and women—they were going from Wentworth-street towards the Pavilion—I stopped Martin, and told her I took her on suspicion of running away with a gentleman's hat and robbing him in Whitechapel-road—she said she had not been in Whitechapel-road since ten o'clock, when she was at the Dolphin drinking with others—she began to cry—I took her to White and Garland—they said she was the woman who ran away with the hat—I had seen Mr. Wood in Whitechapel-road before this, walking with two females, one on each side, but did not notice who they were—this was eight or nine minutes before I went to him, and a quarter of an hour before I apprehended Martin.
MARY ANN MARTIN . I live in North-street, Trafalgar-place, Whitechapel, and am the sister of Charlotte Martin. On Saturday, the 3rd of June, I received information respecting my sister, in consequence of which I went to the station in Denmark-street, and found her there—in consequence of what Hill told me I went in search of Matthias, and found him going out of Wentworth-street, about nine o'clock in the morning—I asked him what I was to do concerning my sister being taken up for this robbery—he said he did not know—I said it was a very great robbery, and my sister was to suffer for it—he laid it was only 4l. 1s.—he said he had had 1l. for his regulars—I said that was nothing to do with me, he was to come and get my sister off—he said he did not mind being half-a-sovereign towards getting a counsellor—I said I did not want any half-sovereign, I only wanted to get my sister off—he told me to meet him at eleven o'clock at the Archers, in Osborne-street, and he would bring the other men with him, and see what could be done for her—I went there at eleven o'clock, but did not find him—I knew he lived at Allen's, in Baker's-row—I went there, and noticed a lot of things in a band-box all packed up ready to be carried away—there was a new bonnet and gown among them—I came out with him to find the other men—a cab passed us with his young woman and another man in it and the boxes—it was not either of the prisoners—the young woman said to Matthias, "Harry, Harry, jump up behind"—I said, "I can see what you are doing, you want to go away without finding any body, and leave me in the lurch"—Mary Ann Hill was with me at the time—she said it was a great shame he should go away and leave my sister in the lurch to suffer—I gave him into custody then—Hill had come to my house at two o'olock in the morning, and had been with me all day—she was with me when he said there was only 4l.—the prisoner Stacey is called Carroty Fred—I heard Hill say he was where the robbery was done overnight—Matthias said he would go and look after Carroty Fred and Andrew Murphy, and bring them to me—he said he had been over the water in a cab looking for him, but could not find him—Hill did not say where Matthias had got any money from.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. He said there was four of them in it? A. Three men—he only mentioned the names of two persons "besides himself—he said my sister had not had any of the money—I did not go to ask him for money.
Q. He proposed to you to subscribe out of his own money to get her a counsel? A. Yes—I told him I would have him apprehended, and I did—I had left my sister about half-past nine o'clock at night—she has been on the town about six months, and was never in custody.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. You are an unfortunate girl? A. Yes—I was never tried in a court of justice, or ever imprisoned.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. How soon was Matthias taken up? A. About two or three o'clock—Hill went with me to the station, and gave information, which led to his being taken.
MR. WILKINS. Q. Did Hill give information to the police? A. No, she went with me to the station—she came to me at half-past two o'clock in the morning, and said she was coming by when my sister was taken—she thought it was for robbery, but she did not know.
MANSEL EVANS . I live in Bell-court, Princes-street, Whitechapel, and am a harness-maker. Up to Friday night, the 2nd of June, Matthias lodged in the same house as me—I have the ground floor—he lodged up stairs—I and my wife went to bed between nine and ten o'clock that night, and between twelve and one I was aroused by Mary Ann Hill—she asked for a bit of candle—we knew her voice, and paid no attention to her—she mentioned Carry Smith, who was an acquaintance of hers—my wife then got up, and gave her a bit of candle—while she was waiting for the candle, she said to my wife, "We have done it for 50l., and I am waiting for my regulars"—she said she had the gentleman in the road, he was looking for a cab—she then went up stairs into Matthias's room with the candle—I could hear men and women up in the room—I could hear their voices, but not to understand what they said—in a short time I heard a footstep come into the court, and a man's voice halloo out either "Nammas," or "Lammas"—I had heard that expression before, and believe it is a phrase among thieves to run away—the people in the room above then ran down stairs—Hill went with them, and every body in the room, except Amy Pool, who cohabits with Matthias—in about a quarter of an hour Hill returned, and went up stairs—she and Pool came down with a lighted candle, left it in my room, and said they were going away not to return that night—next morning Hill came in, with three or four women, between ten and eleven o'clock—Hill said, it was very hard, that as she had put the men on the block they should offer her 10s., but she was sorry after that she did not take the 10s.—she afterwards said she would have them all transported unless she had her share—they had some gin, and then went away—Mary Ann Martin came into my house in the afternoon, and saw Matthias in my pretence—I heard her say to him, it was very hard her sister should be locked up, she had not a friend in the world, she would be starved, and not have a counsel to plead for her, unless she had assistance—Matthias said he had not 1s.—she said, if he had not, he knew where to get it—Matthias went up stairs—they did not follow him—then Mary Ann Martin and Hill went out together—I heard Hill say, the girl that was taken up was taken for her, because they exchanged bonnets and shawls.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Matthias was not present when Hill mentioned about the 50l., &c? A. No, he was up stairs—there was nobody but me and my wife in the room—Martin's sister said it was hard her sister should be transported for nothing.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. You did not see Mary Ann Hill? A. Yes; she came into the room—I heard all I have stated—I did not exactly pay attention to every word—I will not swear that Matthias did not say anything to Mary Ann Martin about the 10s.—I thought it was a robbery, but I like to look to my own affairs—I have never been taken up for robbery, but for a spree, getting tipsy—that was once, or it may be twice—I worked at harness-trade last Wednesday for a doctor at Hackney—I was never in prison in my life—not in the House of Correction, or any gaol—I must confess 1 was in the House of Correction; but not for robbery—it was for an illicit still.
MARIA EVANS . I am the wife of Mansel Evans. On Friday night, the 2nd of June, about twelve o'clock, Hill came and knocked at our door, when we were in bed—she said she wanted a piece of candle for a young woman named Carry—I got her a piece—she said she had put them on to a bloak for 50l.—she went up into Matthias' room with the candle—I heard several persons there besides her—I heard men's voices, but did not hear anything they said there—after Hill had been up stairs a little time, a man came down, came to the door, and said, "Namraas "—then they all came down stairs and went away—Hill afterwards returned, and Amy Poole, who lived with Matthias—Hill said she would have her regulars to-morrow—they went away—I fastened the door, and went to bed—Hill came to my house next morning, and said they had offered her 10s. for her regulars, but she would not take it—I saw her again in the afternoon with Mary Ann Martin and Caroline Smith—they saw Matthias in the entry—I heard Hill tell Matthias she would have her regulars—he said he could not give it her, for he knew nothing about it, nor had he any money about him—he then said, "Come along with me, I will see if I can get it;" and they all went away together—I saw no more of them.
WILLIAM ALDERMAN (police-constable H 7.) I was before the Magistrate when Mary Ann Hill was put into custody—she had been examined as a witness—as I put her into the dock, she said something to me—I do not think the Magistrate could hear her—I did not state it to the Magistrate, but did to the clerk afterwards in my deposition, and it was read over in her presence—I afterwards went to her lodging, and found this bonnet there—I have not the shawl.
JOSEPH PRICE (police-constable H 15.) I apprehended Brown on the evening of the 3rd of June—I asked if he had been along Whitechapel-road that morning—he said he had—I asked if he knew, anything of a gentleman being robbed there—he said he saw a gentleman leaning against some shutters in Great Garden-street, apparently drunk, and while he was being taken across the road, he said, "Where is my hat?" he did not know the gentleman was robbed.
EDWARD SIMMONDS re-examined. These examinations have Mr. Norton's, the Magistrate's, hand writing—he called me to witness it—I heard Hill's examination read to her—she did not sign it.—(The examinations were here read)—"The prisoner Charlotte Martin, says—On Friday night I was in Whitechapel-road, and met this gentleman; Mary Ann Hill was with me; we took hold of the gentleman's arms, and asked him if he would treat us; he said, "Yes." Just as we got to Great Garden-street, there was a lot of them came behind us and shoved the gentleman down; Carrotty Fred, was one, Andrew Murphy was another, and Harry Matthias, the prisoner, was another. They took hold of bis arms and unbuttoned his coat, and took out something; what it was I do not know, and they ran down Black Lion-yard: the gentleman was knocked down; I did pick up his hat; just as I got by the pump, some one took it out of my hands. I went as far as Whitechapel-church, and was going round home the back way: we met a good many chaps coming out of the Bell; I and Mary Ann Hill was telling the chaps about the gentleman being knocked down, and the policeman came and took me; that is all. I saw Harry Matthias take the money out of Carrotty Fred's hand, and put it in his mouth; he said to somebody there, 'they are all counters' (sovereigns.)
"The prisoner, Mary Ann Hill, on her examination, says—I saw the man knocked down; Andrew Murphy knocked him down against the shutter, and I saw Carrolty Fred and two or three more run away; I was standing there when the tail policeman came up—there was a great mob round—I saw Charlotte
Martin taken, and I went and told lier sister in the morning—I Went with Mary Ann Martin to the Archers—I saw Andrew Murphy there—I did not see Matthias—I know nothing about the robbery."
"The prisoner Matthias says—I am innocent of it."
"The prisoner Brown says—I was coming down Whitechapel with a young man, John Bateman, and I saw the gentleman leaning against the shutters; Simmonds came up to him immediately; I heard the gentleman say, 'Where is my hat?' there was another policeman; they call him Irish Tim, and he asked the gentleman if he had lost anything; there were only those two constables there; they got up to the gentleman before I did, and had hold of him. By the time I got up, a third constable came up, and he took the gentleman across the road, towards the station; that is all I saw. I went home with Bateman.
Brown's Defence. I had been to the Pavilion with Bateman, and in returning saw the gentleman in a leaning position against the shutter, supported by the officer; I heard the tall policeman ask if he had lost any thing; he said yes, his hat; he appeared to be drunk; he said he had lost other things, and called again for his bat, which was the time the witnesses saw me as they state; another policeman came up, and took him across the road; after that I saw both the female witnesses; they both knew me personally before this, living in the same neighbourhood; I and Bateman walked down Whitechapel, towards Osborne-street; I shook hands with Garland after this took place, and bid her good night; I went home; they might have taken me into custody, for I did not go away; I was not there when the gentleman was robbed, but I believe the witnesses, having seen me afterwards, think I was there at the time; it is not likely, if I was concerned, I would have allowed the others to divide the money, and not be myself provided with counsel.
Stacey's Defence. I was not in Whitechapel after eleven o'clock; I was at home by half-past eleven.
JOHN BATEMAN . On Friday evening I went to the Pavilion with Brown; we came out, and went towards Whitechapel church; the first thing that caused us to stop, was seeing a gentleman in custody of two policemen; he said he had lost 43l., and his hat; he wanted a cab to go home; they said, "No, you had better come with us, we may learn who took the money"—I bought some fish and bread while I was there; I saw the gentleman cross the road with the two policemen, and we went home.
COURT. Q. Did Brown accost the policemen, or give them any information? A. None whatever—I saw nothing till the prosecutor was with the policemen—I saw no women or men.
MR. WILKINS. Q. What are you? A. An umbrella-maker—I work for Mr. Crocket, of Spitalfields, at this time, and have been with him nine years, constantly—I have known Brown two or three years—the violence was all over when Brown and I came up, and the robbery complete—there was a great mob round the prosecutor.
(Martin received a good character.)
MATTHIAS and BROWN— NOT GUILTY .
MARTIN— GUILTY . Aged 19.
HILL— GUILTY . Aged 19.
Recommended to mercy.— Confined One Year.
STACEY— GUILTY . Transported for Fifteen Years.
OLD COURT.—Tuesday, June 20th, 1843.
Fourth Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Four Months.
1780. RICHARD FISHER and JOHN HARRIS were indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John Johnson, about two in the night of the 15th of June, at Stepney, with intent to steal, and stealing therein, three pairs of boots, value 10s., his property.
ELIZA JOHNSON . I am the wife of John Johnson, a shoemaker, and live in Alfred-terrace, in the parish of Stepney—it is his house—we slept in the front room, ground floor, the window of which has outside shutters—on the 15th of June my husband was up last—between two and three o'clock in the morning I was awoke by the sliding up of the window, and saw a man's arm inside the window, taking off a pair of cloth boots by the bottom pane—I called out, and he ran away—I directly awoke my husband, and shut the window and the shutters again—the shutters were opened, and the window was down at the top, and up at the bottom—the boots were gone—I am certain they were there the night before—the shutters were quite close when I went to bed, but not bolted—the window was closed, and the bottom sash was fastened—there are two fastenings, one in the middle, and one at the side—I cannot say whether the middle one was fastened, but the bottom one was—my husband got up, and dressed himself—as soon as he was dressed I heard persons passing by and talking—I directly ran to the door, and saw two young men walking near the corner, three doors from our house—it was quite light—the arm that was put into the window had on a light jacket, and one of the two persons I saw in the street had on a white jacket—he went round the corner—the other waited for him against the public-house door—the other then came back, and both went down the street together—I watched them till my husband put his boots and hat on, he went after them, and brought them back—I saw no other persons outside the door but them.
Fisher. When we went back to the house with the man, she was asked which way we went, and she said she did not know. Witness. It is false—I was never asked any such question.
JOHN JOHNSON . I was awoke by my wife—I counted the boots, and missed three pairs off the top part of the window, where I had seen them about eleven o'clock the night before, when I went to bed—the shutters were then quite closed, but not bolted—the window was also shut, and fastened at one corner, so as to fasten one sash—when I awoke I found the top window shoved down—it had been quite closed the night before—I went to the door after my wife, and saw the prisoners walking down Alfred-street together—just before I got up to them they separated—one went to the right—I came up to Harris, who was in the light jacket, and who crossed to the left hand side of the road, standing with his face towards the wall—when I came up to him, he said, "Halloo, master, what is this? here is two pair of boots"—I picked up a handkerchief at his feet, and found it contained two pairs of my boots—I said that he or his mate had got another pair, which he denied—Fisher came up, and I immediately took them back to the house—I said, if he would produce the other pair of boots, I would say no more about it—he would not, and I and two young men took them to the station—as we were
going, Fisher produced the other pair of boots, and said, "Here is the other pair of boots"—they are mine—I saw no other persons but the prisoners.
Fisher. We were coming straight from Poplar; if we had been guilty, we might have got away, but we went directly to the station. Witness. They were going straight down the street when I saw them.
EDMUND MANNOCK . I lodge in Mr. Johnson's house. I walked with him and the prisoners to the station—as we went along Alfred-street, I saw Fisher take the boots off a window-ledge in Alfred-street, and give them to Mr. Johnson, saying, "Here are the boots, what occasion is there to go to the station-house now?"
JOHN JOHNSON . I am a policeman. I took the prisoners in charge, with the boots—as we were walking along, Harris said that they saw a bundle lying on one side; that the prosecutor was walking after them; that he turned round, and said, "Master, here is a pair of boots"—they gave their addresses at the station—I made inquiry there, but could not find any one that ever knew or saw them.
Fisher's Defence. We came straight for Poplar; two gentlemen walked behind us all the way from Poplar, and they bid us good night at the end of the street; I belong to the Mary Ann, Captain Fraser, in the Regent's Canal, and was going to sail to-morrow; I had only been home from Prussia a week; I gave my right name, and told the real truth.
Harris's Defence. As I was going by I saw the boots, and said, "Here is a pair of boots;" the reason I did not give my right address was because I did not wish my friends to know anything about it.
FISHER— GUILTY . Aged 19.
HARRIS— GUILTY . Aged 18.
Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor.— Confined Twelve Months.
Before Mr. Justice Patteson.
1781. JAMES HANCOCK was indicted for feloniously forging and uttering a promissory note for 500l., with intent to defraud Samuel Brazier.—3rd and 4th COUNTS, stating his intent to be to defraud Henry Pownall.—Other COUNTS, stating his intent to be to defraud Henry Pownall and another.
1782. WILLIAM HOWARD, alias Edward Hawkins , was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of Dec, at St. Giles in the Fields, 4 rings, value 105l., the goods of Benjamin Smith, in his dwelling-house; and HENRY TURNER , for feloniously receiving 3 precious stones, called diamonds, part of the said goods, well knowing them to have been stolen; against the Statute, &c.
MR. DOANE. conducted the Prosecution.
STEPHEN SMITH . I live with my father, Mr. Benjamin Smith, a jeweller, at No. 12, Duke-street, Lincoln's Inn-fields. On Friday evening, the 19th of Dec. last, the prisoner Hawkins came to my father's shop, in company of another person, and looked at some jewellery—they wished to see some more, which I had not at that time forthcoming, and they agreed to come next day—my brother Henry was present on that occasion—they came next day, between one and three o'clock in the afternoon—Hawkins was spokesman on the occasion—he asked to look at a tray of rings—there were diamond rings among them—he looked at some, and ordered some, but purchased none—he left a little ring with me, and said he wished a diamond put into it, but would speak
about it on the Monday morning—soon after, they left suddenly—he said they were going to Richmond, and they would call on Monday morning and complete the order—he also said that he would bring a gentleman with him on the Monday who knew more about diamonds than he did—he took out his watch, and then hurried away—the ring he left with me is not worth more than 2s. or 3s. at the outside—between two and three hours after they were gone I missed from the tray four rings—I showed that tray to one other person after they left, before I missed the rings—it was a person whom I knew perfectly well—he certainly had the opportunity of taking them, but he is a highly repectable person, a Captain Blankley, of the Royal Navy—I showed them to no other person—neither Hawkins or his friend came on the Monday—I saw nothing more of him till he was taken into custody.
Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN. Q. Had you ever seen either of the persons that came into your shop before? A. Not that I am aware of—Hawkins was taken into custody nearly six months afterwards—we do not check our stock every day—in large jewellers' shops it is generally the custom to have a second person in the shop, when valuable things are exhibited to persons—I think my brother was attending to another party on the Saturday—there was another customer in the shop, who was looking at candlesticks, or something of that kind—I knew who he was, and could give his name—I had seen these rings safe, I should say, between ten and eleven o'clock in the morning—knowing these parties were coming, I had filled all the cases, which have a separate partition for each ring—I had filled them all exactly up—each ring occupied a different compartment in the tray—I observed my loss immediately I put the tray away—that is the way in which we check our dealings with parties—I think it was about three quarters of an hour or an hour after Hawkins left that I showed the tray to the other gentlemen—I had not been in the shop all that time, I had been into the other room—I know all the customers that came in—I could see them—the room I was in adjoins the shop, and the door is always kept open—there is glass in the door, but it was not through that I saw the customers—the door was open—I distinctly remember that—it was not six months afterwards that my attention was first called to this—it was very soon called to it—I have mentioned Captain Blankley as the only party that came in besides Hawkins and the other—I should not like to swear positively that no other person came in in the interval—I missed the rings about an hour and a quarter after Captain Blankley was there, in putting the rings into their separate places again, not in putting the tray away—it is very probable that I was not in the shop all that time—I very likely went into the counting-house.
MR. DOANE. Q. Does the place where you sat command a view of the shop? A. Yes, of the entrance to the shop—the shop is part of the house, which is in the parish of St. Giles-in-the-Fields—my father does not live in the house himself, but he has two men servants, and their wives who live there, and did so at that time.
FANNY DAVIS . I live at 34, Southampton-street, Strand. On Sunday, the 11th December, the prisoner Turner came to the house and inquired for Mr. Rothschild, who lodges in my house, and made an appointment for him to go to him next morning—I am not quite sure that he said to show him some diamonds, but I have a faint recollection of it.
BENJAMIN LOUIS MYERS ROTHSCHILD . I am a dealer in precious stones, and lodge at Davis's house. In consequence of a message I received from her on Monday, the 12th Dec, I went to Turner's house, in Great Sutton-street, Clerkenwell—when I got there I found Hawkins with Turner, and Turner produced three diamonds, and showed me—he took them out of a piece of
paper which he had in his hand, and asked me if I would buy those three diamonds—I said, "Yes, I will buy them if they are reasonable"—he asked me 60l. or 70l. for them—I offered him 50l.—Hawkins interfered, and said he should lose money by them if they were sold at that price—I said I knew Turner, and I could only buy of the man I knew, and objected to buy of any one I did not know—at last I bought them of Turner, and gave him 50l. for them—I knew Turner, living in the street—I did not know Hawkins—afterwards, on the same morning, I went to Mr. Charman's, a jeweller, in Berwick-street, Oxford-street, and sold them to him for 57l. 10s. on credit—I had paid for them myself.
Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN. Q. Did you speak so confidently of Hawkins when you first saw him? did you not say he was astonishingly like him? A. I said so—I was afterwards taken by the policeman to Clerkenwellprison to see him—he was not pointed out by the officer—I pointed him out myself—he was not by himself, there were a great many people with him—that was the first time I saw him—I only went there once—I saw him afterwards at Bow-street—Turner was the man I knew—I had had a very few dealings with him—I was first examined before the Magistrate when Turner was charged alone.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. You had known Turner for some time? A. I had—before I had any dealings with him I bad inquired about his character—I was told that he had lived in the same house for twenty years—I only speak to Hawkins to the best of my belief, not more than that—Turner said he knew this gentleman, who would sell these diamonds, I objected to buy them only of Turner, as I did not know the other—he did not tell me directly that the person's name was Acock—he did afterwards—I never heard that a person named Acock, a jeweller, living in the neigbourhood, had run away—I gave Turner 10s. for the deal—I stated that at once before the Magistrate, and said I believed the diamonds to be the dealing of the other man—I gave a cheque for the 50l., payable to Turner alone—Turner afterwards applied to me to give a cheque for the person to whom the diamonds belonged, in order that I might put in the words "or bearer," that the money might be got—in the evening he called, and wished to be spared the trouble of going to the bank—the first cheque was not payable to bearer, only to Acock—the sum I gave for the diamonds was all they were worth in my hands—I afterwards dealt with them on credit for 57l.—they were not in rings when I saw them—they were three loose stones—there was nobody else in the room besides the two—Turner had called at my house the night before—he left word that he should have some diamonds he wished to have an opportunity of showing me—he wished me to call there, in consequence of which I went there.
MR. DOANE. Q. When you saw Hawkins first after the dealing with the diamonds he was in the prison, with a number of others? A. Yes, and from those others I pointed him out as the man.
COURT. Q. When you went to this place, and found Turner there he showed you the diamonds? A. Yes, he said, "Here are three diamonds belonging to that gentleman, be wishes to sell."
MR. DOANE. Q. I believe it was a blank piece of paper you wrote the cheque on in the first instance? A. It was—I have got the cheque—(producing it.)
WILLIAM CHARMAN . I am a jeweller, and live in Berwick-street, Oxford-street. On Monday, the 12th of Dec, Rothschild came to my shop with three diamonds—I bought them of him for 57l. 10s., at four months' credit—I
afterwards produced them at the Bow-street Police Court—inspector Pearce took possession of them.
HENRY SMITH . I am the brother of Stephen Smith. I was present on the evening of the 9th of Dec., when two men came in—Hawkins was one of them—I do not know who the other was—they were there about ten minutes, I should say—an engagement was made to come next day, to see some more jewellery—Hawkins came next day, at ten o'clock, with his companion, and remained there about an hour and a half, looking at the jewellery—I was at the fancy fair, in the Painted Hall, Greenwich, on the first of this month, and among the company I saw Hawkins—I knew him at once—I saw him twice—the first time I was quite certain he must be the man, but still I had not a full view of his face—the second time I saw him I was quite certain of him—I knew him at once, and gave him into custody.
Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN. Q. The parties were both strangers to you when they came to the shop? A. Yes, as well as to my brother—they were there till nearly five o'clock—I was in the shop, I suppose, till about seven o'clock—several persons came to the shop in the course of the evening—I was not present when the rings were first missed—I heard my brother say that he had missed them, between six and seven o'clock the same evening—there had been some persons in the shop after the prisoners had left.
ISAAC CRIPPS (police-constable R 277.) On the 1st of June I took Hawkins into custody, at Greenwich, by the direction of Henry Smith—he gave the name of William Howard—he was asked for his address—he refused to give it—he said he knew nothing about the robbery.
NICHOLAS PEARCE . I am inspector of the A division of police. I was engaged about this robbery—on the 19th of April I saw Turner, and took him into custody—I told him what it was for—he said he had nothing to do with it—on the 4th of January I had accompanied Rothschild to Turner's house—Rothschild said, "Turner, the diamonds I bought of you have been stolen"—Turner said he had nothing to do with it—Rothschild said, "I bought them of you, and paid you for them"—Turner said, "You bought them of Acock"—Rothschild said, "I know nothing about Acock"—I then told Turner that I was an officer, and asked who Acock was—he told me he was very easy to be found—I asked him if he could tell me where he lived, or any person that knew him—he said, "No," he had known him about two years, and had done some jobs for him—I asked if he could refer me to anybody that knew Acock—he said he was introduced to him by a man named Clark, a fringe maker, but he did not know where Clark lived—he said there was a man named Lewis, who knew Acock, and he believed Lewis lived at Bayswater—I requested Turner, if he should see Acock or this man, to let me know, and I gave him my private address, and also to send to Scotland-yard—he said he would do so—he gave me no information about him before I took him into custody, on the 19th of April—he then sent for me into the cell in Bow-street, and said it was a hard case for him, and asked why I did not take the other man—I said I did not know where to find him—he told me he had seen him about a week ago—I was at the examination at Bow-street when Mr. Charman produced the three diamonds—they are the same that I have produced to-day—Hawkins gave the name of Hawkins at Bow-street.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Do you remember Rothschild saying to you, at Turner's house, that Turner was an honest, respectable man? A. That be believed him to be so—he was admitted to bail on this charge, and came last Session to surrender—I was not here at the time—he renewed his recognizances, and has surrendered here.
MR. DOANE. Q. Did you accompany Rothschild to Clerkenwell prison
when he pointed out Hawkins? A. Yes—he went in, came out again mentioned something to me, and induced me to go in.
STEPHEN SMITH re-examined. These are three of the diamonds I lost—the large one I can positively swear to, and I believe the other two are the same—the value of the four rings was 100 guineas—the value of these three diamonds is 84l.—that is what we gave for them.
Hawkins. I am sworn to as being the person, Mr. Acock, who had the dealing in this transaction; I protest, in the face of God and the Court, that I never saw this man (Turner) in my life; I was never in his house, and he never saw me, and he could prove it; I believe a person is in Court that knows I am not the man that was present at his house, and I never saw the witness in my life; I wish him to be called to prove I am not the man sworn to by Rothschild as being connected with the diamonds.
WILLIAM TURNER . I am the son of the prisoner Turner, and live with him. I was at home when Rothschild came to my father's house, about these diamonds—there was no other person there with my father at the time—I was not in the room when my father dealt for the diamonds—I was in the passage—no one else was in the house except Mr. Acock—Hawkins is not that man—Acock lived up at Islington—he professed to be a working-jeweller—I have not seen him lately—I do not know what has become of him—I can take my oath that Hawkins is not the person who was there on that occasion.
MR. DOANE. Q. What brought you here to-day? A. To be a witness for my father—I knew I was to be examined as a witness—I supposed I should be—nobody told me I was to be examined, that I can recollect—I remember my father being taken up on this charge, and being taken to Bow-street—I knew what the evidence was against him then—I was not there—I heard that same evening that he was charged with receiving some diamonds—at that time I did not recollect this transaction of Rothschild coming—I remembered Acock coming about the diamonds—I heard when Hawkins was taken into custody—I was not before the Magistrate when my father and Hawkins were there together—I never went there at either examination—I heard of Hawkins being examined at Bow-street—I cannot say how soon after I heard of it—I heard of it before the following week—I did not go to Bow-street to give evidence—I did not know then that he was not the man—I did not go to see—I did not give my evidence to any attorney to-day—I have never had any communication from Hawkins—I never saw him in my life, that I know of—I might have seen him in the street, perhaps, but I never saw him at my father's house—that I swear—I have had no communication with him since he has been in custody, directly or indirectly—I never spoke to him in my life, nor ever wrote to him, or he to me—I have had no communication with him, directly or indirectly, till I got into this box.
Hawkins. I never knew there was such a man; I never saw him in my life; the prisoner Turner, himself said, as I came out of the cell this morning, that he was sorry I should suffer for nothing, when be knew I was not the man.
(John Allen, dairyman, No. 16, Paris-street, Lambeth; Robert Miller, straw bonnet dealer, No. 125, Cornwall-road; and Thomas Eastgate, publican, Lewisham-road, deposed to Hawkins's good character.)
HOWARD alias HAWKINS— GUILTY . Aged 63.
TURNER— NOT GUILTY .
Upon which no evidence was offered.
NOT GUILTY .
MR. DOANE conducted the Prosecution.
ISSAC TERRY . I am a watchmaker, and live in Princes-street, Leicester-square. On the 12th of March, last year, the prisoner came to my shop in company with another person, and asked to look at some gold watches—I showed him forty-two watches—he was about ten minutes looking at them—he afterwards selected one, and wished me to keep it going till the following Monday—it was not going at that time—I turned my back to go and get a key to wind it up, leaving the gold watches on the counter in front of the prisoner and his companion—I came with the key, wound up the watch, and he went away about half a minute after, and in half a minute I missed two gold watches, worth about twenty guineas—I never saw the prisoner again till he was in custody on the last charge.
Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN. Q. You had never seen the person before? A. No—the other person appeared to be a foreigner—he was about five feet eleven inches—I should know him again, so as to swear to him—when I went to see the prisoner he was in custody—inspector Pearce came to my shop—he told me he had got a man in custody that he thought had committed the robbery at my house, from the account I had given of it—he then took me to Greenwich station—we went into the yard together—the man was locked up at that time—he was brought out—Pearce was standing a short distance off.
MR. DOANE. Q. After the robbery did you give any information of the loss to the police? A. Yes, at Vine-street—it was in consequence of that that Pearce came to me—I have not the slightest doubt the prisoner was one of the men.
COURT. Q. You described the loss of these watches immediately? A. I should think not half a minute after—I pursued directly, but took a straight line up the street, and I suppose they took the first turning—I went the wrong way.
MR. TERRY re-examined. This is one of the two gold watches I lost that day.
GUILTY . Aged 63.— Transported for Fifteen Years.
First Jury, before Mr. Recorder.
1785. MARK MARKS was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Thomas Middleton, about one o'clock in the night of the 1st of May, at the hamlet of Mile-end Old Town, with intent to steal, and stealing therein, 30 rings, value 20l.; 31 watches, 110l.; 3 neck-chains, 15l.; 2 watch guard chains, 7l.; 2 snuff boxes, 4l.; 2 scent boxes, 18s.; and 6 watch-chains and seals, his property.
MR. BALLANTINE conduct the Prosecution.
WILLIAM THOMAS MIDDLETON . I live in Grenada-terrace, Commercial-road, and am a watchmaker and jeweller. On the 2nd of May I got out of bed, looked at my watch, and it was twenty-five minutes after four o'clock—I heard a knocking at my door, went to it, and found my shutter had been broken open by forcing the bars which go across, jamming in four wedges, and forcing the shutters aside, breaking a large square of glass 3ft. by 2ft. 10in. and a quarter of an inch thick—the shutters had been fastened up at a quar-
ter to eleven o'clock the night before, and were safe then—I missed thirty-one watches, five gold chains, two silver scent boxes, six gold seals and chains, thirty gold rings—I lost 200l. worth of property—I have since seen nine rings.
RICHARD PEYTON (police-constable K 353). I was on duty on the morning of the 2nd of May—I passed Mr. Middleton's about a quarter past four o'clock, and found some stones placed behind the bar of his shutters—I awoke him, and found the house broken open.
JOHN JONES HARRIS . I am a watchmaker, and live at No. 11, Upper East Smithfield. On the 8th of May I bought eight rings of Mr. Samuels, a jeweller, who I have dealt with many years, for 2l. 12s. 6d.—three of them were the new standard gold, and five common.
SAMUEL SAMUELS . I live at No. 162, Brick-lane, and attend sales of pawnbrokers' goods. On the 4th of May, I met Lazarus in Brick-lane—he showed me eight rings—I did not buy them—I took them from him to sell on commission—I paid him 2l. 7s. or 2l. 7s. 6d. for them—I received 2l. 12s. 6d. from Harris for them.
Cross-examined. Q. What are we to understand from your saying you did not buy them? A. I met him, he showed me the rings in the street, and asked me to purchase them—I said I would not, I might sell them for him—he waited in a coffee-shop while I sold them, and brought him the money—he could not sell them himself, as he did not know the party—Mr. Harris is a customer of mine—I deal in jewellery and watches, and buy pawnbrokers' lots.
SIMON LAZARUS . I am a dealer in clothes, metal, and furniture—I live in Well-street, Mile-end, New-town. On Wednesday, the 3rd of May, I went to the shop of Reeve, in Goswell-street, to deal with him in some articles—I bought a mourning ring of him for 8s. 6d.—I saw him take it out of a drawer, and saw some ladies' mourning rings in the drawer—he showed them to me afterwards—I did not buy them of him—I took them on approbation, and afterwards sold them to Samuels for 2l. 7s.—I gave Reeve 2l. 2s.
Cross-examined. Q. Did not you hear Samuels swear he did not buy them at all? A. I was not in Court—he took them from me to show to customers of his, and gave me 2l. 7s. for them—I waited for him in a coffee-shop near the Mint—I could not get anybody to give me a sufficient price for them—I tried twenty different people—I was not hawking them in Brick-lane, but it a coffee-house—I do not keep a shop—I am a dealer in miscellaneous property and go to sales, and buy property of every description—Reeve is a gold and silver refiner—he keeps a crucible—it is part of his business to melt.
JOHN REEVE . I am a gold-refiner, and live at No. 137, in Goswell-street. I have known the prisoner for eleven years—I saw him on the 2nd of May, between six and seven o'clock in the evening, in company with two others—they produced two or three silver scent boxes, fourteen or sixteen gold rings, one plated ring, and one plated pin—they all produced some—the prisoner asked me what I would give him—I looked at them—they were an inferior standard—we have two standards—new standard is the cheapest, it is 18 carat gold, the old standard is 22—I bought them by weight, fifteen or sixteen rings, and gave 60s. an ounce for the new standard, but they were not all standard—I paid between 6l. and 7l.—I bought nothing else of him than I have stated—the silver scent boxes were purchased, and melted by me—they were in a good state of repair, but old fashioned—I gave at the rate of 5s. 2d. an ounce for them—they were silver gilt—I bought a plated ring for 3s. or 4s.—I gave rather more than it was worth, for I bought it for a solid article, and it turned out a plated one—I bought a small plated ring of him, for which I gave 6d.—the prisoner
took the money for the principal rings, and the other man the money for the other rings and goods—I sold some of the rings to Lazarus—the prisoner did not tell me where he got the rings—I knew him many years, and have laid out some thousands of pounds with him, knowing him to be a respectable man—I would buy of him again—I cannot swear these are the rings I bought of him—I believe them to be the same.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Does this man keep a shop? A. I do not know, he may—I do not know whether I bought fifteen, sixteen, thirteen, or fourteen rings of him—I keep books—on this night I did not book them, as I was going out—it was late in the evening, half-past six o'clock—the fire was out—I put the scent-boxes in the crucible the after part of the next day—I gave 50s. an ounce for these five rings, and 19s. 7d. for these rings—they were bought at the melting price—I asked nothing about them—I had known the man eleven years—I know the whole tribe of Jews—I remember the inspector coming, and asking whether I had bought any rings—I said I did not know—I might have said I had not bought any rings, but I do not remember it—these are all old-fashioned rings—not too good to melt—the pearls are of no value—these three rings are standard gold, and are worth 3l. an ounce—I had not two servants present at the time—I did not call them before the Magistrate—they were called—I buy articles to melt—I am sure this was on the 2nd—these are the rings I purchased of Lazarus.
NICHOLAS PEARCE . I am inspector of the A division of police. On Wednesday, the 10th of May, I received information of the robbery, and west to the shop of Mr. Reeve—I afterwards took the prisoner into custody—I told him it was for being concerned in a burglary at the shop of Mr. Middleton—he said, "I had nothing to do with it, so help me God"—I had seen the rings, and said to him, "And selling the rings at Mr. Reeve's"—he said he had not sold them to Reeve.
JOSEPH LEWIS . I am inspector of the H division of police. On the 18th of May I was sent for to the prisoner at Lambeth-street police-office—he said on Tuesday evening, the 2nd of May, he met two men in Petticoat-lane—they asked him to take a walk with them, which he did—they went to the house of Mr. Reeve, in Goswell-street, where they disposed of some of the rings—he said that about twelve o'clock that day Mr. Reeve had received the whole, or nearly so, of the property that was stolen from Mr. Middleton's—he did not say how he happened to know that.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
NOT GUILTY .
1786. JOHANNA CATLIN was indicted for knowingly, wilfully, and corruptly making a false statement to William Fitch, the Registrar of Births and Deaths for the parish of St. Clement Danes, and causing him to insert in the register of deaths that John Harris died of hooping-cough on the 16th of May, 1843.—Eight other Counts, varying the manner of stating the charge.
MR. RYLAND conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM FITCH . I live in Carey-street, Lincoln's-inn-fields, and am Registrar of Births and Deaths for the district of St. Clement Danes. On Wednesday, the 17th of May, the prisoner came to my house about ten o'clock, or half-past, in the morning—she was a perfect stranger to me—she desired me to register the death of her child, which had died at No. 6, Clement's-lane, which is in the immediate neighbourhood—I asked her, as a matter of invariable practice, when it died, the sex, age, and the profession or business of the parents, and took down the answers from her lips in the different columns—
having done so, I read it over to her—she made no objection to it, and made her mark to it, as required by the act—I then signed it in the next column—I gave her an acknowledgment that the death had been registered, which is the authority to the Clergyman to bury—the clergyman is liable to a penalty if he buries without that certificate—I asked her own name, to write it, for her to make her mark—it says, "the mark of Mary Harris, present at the death, No. 6, Clement's-lane"—I have the book here—this is the entry, "John Harris, six years, hooping-cough, present at death—the mark of Mary Harris, May 17"—this is one of a set of books furnished by the Registrar-general, under the Act of Parliament—I gave her the acknowledgment of the entry in the terms prescribed by the Act of Parliament—I gave her one of these blank forms filled up properly.
JOHN MAY . I am a bricklayer, and keep the house No. 6, Clement's-lane, St. Clement Danes; I have lived there about fourteen years. The prisoner never lived in my house—I did not know her—there is no child named John Harris—no child died of hooping-cough in my house in May last.
WILLIAM WILKINSON . I am a chemist and druggist, and live at No. 248, Strand; I am secretary to the District Visiting Society, under the Clergyman of the parish. On the 17th of May, between eleven and twelve o'clock, the prisoner came to me, and produced a document, which she took away again—she stated that her husband was lying dead at St. Bartholomew's-hospital—I read part of the paper she gave me—I saw "John Harris" and "William Fitch"—the age was not stated—she said her husband had died in St. Bartholomew's-hospital, and belonged to a club, and, providing she had 3s., she could get 5l. towards his funeral, but she must have it by three o'clock—I said I never gave money for deaths—she said she had 1s. 6d.; if she got 15d. more she could make up the 3d.—I declined to assist her, and she went out—she came back shortly after, and begged I would assist her with the 15d.—she said somebody else had given her 18d., and asked me to give her 15d., and she could make up the odd 3d.—I said, "Well, I shall go with you to inquire into your case"—I went to No. 6, Clement's-lane, and found the shutters up at the house—a party stood at the door—I asked if she resided in the house—they said no—she was with me, and said, "I am extremely obliged to you for taking the trouble of going to inquire into my distressing case"—she said, "It is not this No. 6, it is No. 6 higher up"—I said there was no. other No. 6—she said, "Yes"—I said, "Well, let us go and see where it is"—I went a short way, she gave me the slip, and I lost her—I then went to the registrar and made inquiry, which led to her being taken.
Prisoner. I did not ask for 3s., I asked for 15d. Witness. I am not mistaken in what I said.
THOMAS SILVESTER (police-constable F 103.) I took the prisoner in charge, on the 18th of May, at No. 18, Little Ormond-yard, Lamb's Conduit-street—she lived there—I told her I had come to take her on account of having been the day previous to register the false death of a child in Clement-street, Lincoln's-inn-fields—she denied it, and in going down towards Charing-cross she said she had done so—I said, "Well, you must walk with me to Mr. Fitch"—I took her to him—he identified her as the woman—I asked her what her name was—she said Johanna Catlin—I asked if she lived in the house I found her in—she said she did—I asked her for the certificate she had received from Mr. Fitch—she said she had torn it up the night previous—I was present when she was examined before the Magistrate—I heard her asked if she had anything to say by Mr. Jardine—I heard her say something, which was taken down in writing, and signed by him—this is it—(read)—"The prisoner being asked if she had anything to say, says, 'I went to Mr. Wilkinson, and asked him for 15d.; what Mr. Fitch has said is truth; I
live at No. 18, Ormond-court.' "—I do not remember whether she was asked to sign this—I heard what she said, and saw the Magistrate write down the statement she made—she was asked if it was correct, and she said, "It is correct."
Prisoner's Defence. Not knowing how to read or write, I did not know the consequence of it. I was told if I got it from the gentleman I should get something from Mr. Wilkinson, who was in the habit of relieving. I must confess that was the occasion of it; but I did not know the consequence of it when I went for it, or I would not have done it—I thought there was nothing to do but to go and put a mark to the notice—I have three children under nine years old, who were starving.
GUILTY. Aged 42.— Judgment respited.
GUILTY .— Confined three months.
OLD COURT.—Wednesday, June 21st, 1843.
Third Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.
JOHN WHITE . I am a pensioner at Greenwich Hospital. On the 3rd of June, between eight and nine in the evening, I was at the White Hart public-house, at Shadwell—I was not sober, and do not know what I was about—I know I had two crowns and small silver in my coat-pocket—the officer spoke to me—I put my hand into my pocket and found it was cut and my money was gone.
CHARLES POTTER (police-constable K 212.) On Saturday the 3rd of June, about nine o'clock at night, I saw the prisoner Vines in Ratcliffe-highway, and the witness Haley following him—he gave him in charge for robbing an old pensioner—in going to the station-house I asked Vines what money he had—he said, "About half-a-crown"—he was searched, and 3s. and some halfpence found on him—coming out of the station-house I saw Myers and took him—he said he knew nothing about the money; he had only 2d. in his pocket—he was searched, and 2d. found—I saw the old pensioner afterwards in Twine-court, opposite the White Hart, quite intoxicated, and crying—he pointed across to the White Hart—I examined his coat at the station-house and found it cut, and no money in the pocket.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Do you know Myers? A. Yes, and Haley—I did not tell Vines that the prosecutor had lost any half-crowns—I have known Vines the last fortnight, hanging about with thieves—I do not know where he lodges.
FLORENCE HALEY . I was in the White Hart public-house at Shadwell, on Saturday the 3rd of June, about eight o'clock—I saw White sitting down there, and both the prisoners—Vines was sitting alongside the prosecutor—he was rather groggy—Myers was standing facing him—I saw Vines put his hand into the prosecutor's pocket, and take some shillings and halfpence out—he went out—Myers and another man followed him—while I was taking a drink of beer, the prosecutor said, "I am robbed"—he accused another man of it—I told him I knew the men that did it—I ran after Vines—I could not see him just then—I went to the Duke of York afterwards, and he was having some beer there—I caught hold of him—he said, "What do you want of me?"—I said, "You are wanted at the White Hart"—he said,
"What for?"—I said, "Come and see"—he went out, I followed him into the Highway, and gave him in charge.
Cross-examined. Q. Do you know Ann Lynch? A. Yes, I have known her some time—she is not a constant companion of mine—she was in the Duke of York—I had seen her three or four times that evening in the White Hart and in the highway—she was at the White Hart when the prosecutor had his pocket torn—I cannot say whether she went out before or after me—I followed the prosecutor out—she got to the Duke of York before me—I saw her at the time this took place—I was not taking notice of her—I was looking after them—the Duke of York is two or three doors from the White Hart—I believe I met her at the Duke of York first—she was standing at the bar with another girl—she did not tell me what occurred to the prosecutor—I saw it myself—she said nothing to me before I went out after Vines—I saw her last night in the highway, and she asked me if it was not all over, and said she was coming up to-morrow—she has not been here all the Sessions—I am a coal-whipper, and worked for Mr. Kelly, a publican at Wapping, three weeks ago—I have since been working at the West India Docks—I have never, been in custody, except for being drunk—Lynch was not at the station-house at all.
(ANN LYNCH was called on her recognizance, and did not appear.)
NOT GUILTY .
1789. GEORGE GILLMAN was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of June, 1 stock and 3 bits, value 1l.; 4 planes, 1l.; 1 square, 1s.; 2 spoke-shaves, 1l.; 1 gauge, 1s.; 2 pairs of pincers, 1s.; 1 screw, 1s.; 1 padlock, 6d.; the goods of James Nicholas; and 1 hammer, 1s., the goods of Joseph Henocq.
JAMES NICHOLAS . I live in Blandford-street, Marylebone—I am a bonnet-maker—I have a shop at the back of my dwelling-house, and a passage leading from the mews to the workshop. Between seven and eight o'clock in the evening of the 16th of June, I fastened my shop with a padlock—next morning, between seven and eight, I went to it, and found the door open, and the padlock gone—I missed from a tool-box some bits, and several planes from the shop, a saw, and other tools—every article in this basket, except the hammer, is mine, and were taken from my shop—the hammer belongs to Hennocq, who works for me—I went to Walters, a pawnbroker in High-street, the same morning, and found my saw there—in consequence of what the shopman told me, I ran out, and saw the prisoner in Marylebone-street, with the things in this basket, three-quarters of an hour after I missed them.
JOSEPH HENOCQ . I am a French polisher, and work for John Nicholas. About eight o'clock, on the morning of the 16th, he called on me—I went with him to Walter's, the pawnbroker, and found this saw—we went after the prisoner, and found the things in the basket—he said, "Well, you need not make a fuss about it, don't hollo"—this hammer is mine—I do not know whose the other is.
GEORGE ROGERS . I am a policeman. On the morning of the 16th I saw the prisoner go out of Walters's shop, and the witness after him—I took him into custody, with the basket of tools, took him to the station, and saw him drop this padlock, which the witness took up—he said at the station the tools were there except one saw.
Prisoner's Defence. A man asked me if I would pledge a plane and saw; I
said I would; while I was in the pawnbroker's Mr. Nicholas came in, and inquired. The man who was waiting outside for me ran away.
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Six Months.
Second Jury, before Mr. Recorder.
JANE WEST . I am the wife of John West, a baker at Southall. On the 12th of May the prisoner came to our shop, and said, "I want two quarterns of flour for Mrs. Turner" (who is a customer of ours)—I said, "For Mrs. Turner?"—she said, "Yes"—I gave them to her, and she crossed the road towards Mrs. Turner's.
THOMAS TULL . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner, and told her what it was for—she said she was going on the Saturday night to pay for the flour—she afterwards said she did do it, and would not deny it.
The prisoner, in a written defence stated, that the prosecutor had agreed not to proceed against her, if she paid for the flour.
MRS. WEST re-examined. My husband never told her she must pay for it—I was at the shop when she came on Tuesday morning—she said she would come on Saturday night—my husband said, "Very well"—we have been paid by Mrs. Turner, as it had been put down in her bill.
GUILTY. Aged 26.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Six Weeks.
GUILTY . Aged 31.— Confined Eighteen Months.
OLD COURT.—Thursday, June 22nd, 1843.
Fourth Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.
GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Eighteen Months.
Before Mr. Recorder.
1793. MARY ANN MILLER, ELIZABETH LAYTON, LOUISA ELDRIDGE, RICHARD RONAYNE , and WILLIAM MATTHEWS , were indicted for together assaulting John Joshua Hulme, on the 3rd of June, putting him in fear and danger of his life, and violently stealing from his person, and against his will, 1 hat, value 10s.; 1 key, 1s.; 1 comb, 4d.; 10 half-crowns, and 1 sixpence: and immediately before, at the time of, and after the said robbery, feloniously cutting and wounding him.—2nd COUNT, for striking, beating, and using other personal violence to him at the time of the said robbery.
JOHN JOSHUA HULME . I am a modeller, and live at No. 10, Summers-yard, Coburg-road, Westminster. I was going home about half-past twelve o'clock on Saturday night, the 3rd of June, and met the prisoners Miller and Layton, who asked me to treat them with a drop of gin—I said I was not proud, I would treat them, or any other woman—I was then in Strutton-ground, about two minutes' walk from Union-court—I ted to pass Union-court
—there is a public-house at the corner, and I was going there—when I got to the corner I asked them to go into the public-house—Miller said they could get the gin at their crib—I went with them to their crib, which was down Union-court, No. 13, into the back parlour—I was perfectly sober at the time—I had ten half-crowns and a sixpence in my pocket at the time, and 1s., which I gave Miller for the gin—she did not say where she was going for the gin—I cannot accurately state how many doors off the public-howe, No. 13, is—she was decidedly not gone out of the room long enough to have gone to that public-house—Layton remained in the room with me—when Miller came back she brought about half-a-quartern of gin in a tumbler—she had also a small spirit glass—she poured some gin into the spirit glass, and handed it to me—I drank it—I have drank gin before—that quantity of gin would not have any effect on me if unadulterated—it was the half of half-a-quartern—I felt a drowsiness come over me directly—I then took my money out of my waistcoat-pocket, and put it into my left-hand trowsers'-pocket—Miller and Layton seized me directly—I have no recollection further than that I kept my hand secure in my pocket where my money was, and found it cut—I noticed it was cut before I became quite insensible—I do not know who did it, or how it was done—I saw no more persons in the room before I became insensible—I do not know of their doing anything to get my hand out of my pocket—nothing more occurred to my hand, that I recollect—I became insensible soon after—I cannot tell whether I was beat or not—I afterwards recovered my senses partially—I had gone into the house with my hat on—when I became sensible I could not see my hat, and I afterwards found my money was gone—on becoming sensible, I told them they had robbed me of my money, and taken my hat, if they would give me my hat, I would forgive them for the robbery of the money if they would let me go—Miller and Layton were present then—I did not see any other persons—nothing was then done to me, that I recollect—I was not in a condition to know whether there was any other persons in the room, or not at that time—to my knowledge, I do not know that anybody else was pretent—I had not lost my money before I became insensible—I do not recollect whether I was beaten or not—I was at the hospital when I again became insensible—I do not recollect being put out of the house—I found at the hospital that my head was cut in three places, two at the back, and one on the forehead—my face was scratched and bloody—I had a black eye, and the bridge of my nose was black—the left-hand which I had endeavoured to protect my pocket with, was cut in three places—it was at the hospital that I found my money was gone—I did not know it before—I knew my money was gone when I told them they had robbed me—my senses were knocked out of me again after that—I knew that my money was gone before I became insensible the second time—I ascertained it by feeling in my pocket—I recollect feeling in my pocket between the two attacks on me—I became insensible once, and then again, and between the two times, I ascertained that my money was gone.
COURT. Q. Then did you lose your senses a second time? A. Yes—before I lost my senses a second time, I received a blow on my head—Miller and Layton were all that I can remember being present—I do not know what I was struck with—I believe my hand was cut with the edge of the jemmy.
ELIZABETH PENN . I live at No. 13, Union-court, Orchard-street, West-minster—the prisoner Miller lived in the back parlour of No. 13, with Layton and Ronayne—Matthews lived at No. 9, in the front parlour, and Eldridge at No. 7, in the front parlour of Union-court—on Saturday night, the 3rd of May, I was at home, and in bed—I am married, and live with my husband—I heard a
great noise between twelve and one o'clock, as near as I can tell—it appeared to come from the back parlour, down stairs—I heard two women's voices and a man's—it was Miller and Layton's voices and the prosecutors—I heard him cry out, "You have robbed me"—she said, "Go and b----yourself, for I have not robbed you"—I then heard a great noise, as if shoving him about—I got out of bed, and opened my window—I heard the back parlour door being opened, and when I looked out, I saw Ronayne, Matthews, and three or four females standing against the street door—Miller came to the door with a candle in her hand, and said, "You b----fools, why don't you come in;" and they went in immediately—the candle enabled me to see the faces of the two men—I am sure it was Ronayne and Matthews—no one else went in—they went in at the passage door, which would lead to the back parlour—after they had gone in I heard a further noise in the back parlour—I heard one of the men say, "hit him with the b----jemmy"—it sounded like Matthews' voice—I had never had any conversation with Matthews, but I had heard him talking a great deal in the court before that time—immediately after I heard the expression, "hit him with the b----jemmy" I heard the prosecutor halloo out, "Oh, murder," and afterwards "police"—Ronayne came out immediately afterwards—I did not hear him say anything—I never saw him go in again—the prosecutor said he would go out directly he had his hat—I did not hear Ronayne say anything on that—Matthews took and shoved him out of the back parlour into the passage, and by the shove he fell on the stairs in the passage—I did not see that, but heard him—Matthews said to him, "Are you going out? if not, I will kick your b----breast-bone in"—I am sure it was Matthews said that—there was no other man in the place—there was nobody in the parlour with him besides Miller and Matthews when that was said—I am clear it was Matthews said that—my deposition was read over to me before the Magistrate—I am sure it was Matthews said it—after that I saw two or three females speaking to Ronayne, and Matthews spoke to Ronayne when he came out of the passage—when Ronayne came out, he remained at the step of the door outside—when I heard Matthews say "Go out, if not I will kick your b----breast-bone in,"I heard the man halloo out "murder," and "police," and I said to the females and Ronayne outside the door," For God's sake, are you going to murder the man, or what are you going to do?"—one of the females said, "Hold your tongue, Mrs. Penn, we are only going to have a lark"—I do not know who that woman was—she was a stranger—Matthews came out of the passage door directly after, and said, "Come along; that b----cow will spoil us; we had better go," and Matthews and Ronayne went away together towards Orchard-street—after that, Miller came to the door again with a candle in her hand, went over to Eldridge's door, and said, "Come and help get him out, for I cannot get him out, for I have hit the old b----three or four times with a candlestick"—I saw the prosecutor noon after—these three or four females went over to him at the door, and told him his hat was at the next door—he said, "If you will give me my hat I will go out"—one of them said, "Come, old cock, your hat is next door"—he came out, went to the next door, and they told him that was their crib, and not to go there—he was turned back from there, and went to No. 13 again, and then Miller shoved him, and by the shove he fell—he got up and ran into the next door passage—some girls followed him in; Eldridge was one—she had a poker in her hand—one of the females hallooed out "Oh," several times—the prosecutor hallooed out "Murder"—after he had been in the passage some time, I heard a man's voice say, "Hit him Louey," meaning Louisa Eldridge—it was a man's voice—I cannot say who it was—I could not see Eldridge then, but I saw her come out with the prosecutor and the other females, and at that time she had a poker in her
hand—I heard a man's voice halloo out again, "Hit him again, hit the b----again Louey"—they had all come out then—the prosecutor was in the court—Eldridge held the poker up near to the prosecutor, but I did not see her strike him—I saw the poker fall down, as if by the force of her hand, in a direction of the prosecutor, as if in the act of striking him, but I could not see it strike—it fell in a direction of the front part of his head—the prosecutor went over to Eldridge's door again, and Miller shoved him, and his head went against the wall—after he was down Miller kicked him, and said, "Take that, you b----"—Miller then went towards the court, turned back again and then went into her own house—I saw the policeman come down, the court after the prosecutor had laid there two or three minutes—I afterwards saw Miller come out again, join Ronayne, and go up the court towards Orchard-street—they came out of the passage of No. 13—it was nearly one o'clock when I first got out of bed, and it was about half-past two when the policeman come down—it lasted about an hour and a-half—at two o'clock the prosecutor was in the back parlour, and at half-past two he was out in the court.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. You saw the two men go in when Miller came to the door? A. Yes—I then heard a noise, and in a few seconds Ronayne came out again—he was the first to come out at the door—there was a great noise in the back parlour before Ronayne came out—he came to the door directly after Matthews said "Hit him with the b----jemmy"—he stood at the door—he did not go and call the police—he was standing just outside the door—it was after that I saw Matthews come out and speak to Ronayne—I did not see him at that time, not till he came out—Ronayne stood at the door when the prosecutor fell, and halloed "Murder" and "Police" again—Matthews came to the door after the second cry of "Murder" and "Police"—I saw Ronayne walk up the court towards Orchard-street with Matthews, immediately after Matthews came out and spoke to Ronayne—that was after he said, "This cow will spoil us"—I heard the prosecutor, call "Murder" and "Police," and Ronayne came out immediately after—that was the first time I heard "Murder" and "Police"—there was nobody looking out of window besides me.
Miller. Q. Did you see me with a candlestick? A. Yes.
Layton. Q. Did you see me in the man's company at all, or in the mob? A. No—I heard two females—I know your voice when I hear it—I heard your voice in the back parlour.
Matthews. Q. Did you see me in the house? A. Yes, I did—I did not say at the Office that it was Ronayne said, "You b----," &c.—this it my deposition—it was read over to me.—(The witness's deposition being read, stated, "I heard Ronayne say, 'Get out, you b----; if you don't, I will kick your b----breast-bone in.')—That must be a mistake in taking it down—I am certain it was you—I said, "A female spoke outside the door"—I did not say who—I did not see you strike the man—I saw you go into the house, and come out—I know it was you—I did not see you come back—you caught me about three o'clock, and took me, and asked what I knew about it—when I came back again I heard you had been saying you would kick my b----brains out—I said, "Matthews, what have you to say about me?"—you said, "You b----, if you bring me into it I will kick your b----brains out"—I told the clerk of it at the Office.
JURY. Q. Are you so acquainted with the voices of the prisoners as to be able to speak positively to them? A. I am perfectly sure it was Matthews's voice, and so I am of Miller's—I heard her talking several times, and Matthews's voice I had heard several times.
MARY SOUTHERBY . I am single, and live at No. 13, Union-court. I was in Orchard-street between two and three o'clock, on Monday morning, the 4th of May—when I got to my house I saw the prosecutor next door, crying, "Give me my hat, give me my hat"—I saw a female open the door, and he fell in on his face as he was leaning up against the door, pushing it—I did not see Eldridge come up the court, but, directly after the man tumbled into the house, she struck him with a poker as he was in the passage of No. 14—she site inside the house—she had come over from her own lodging on the opposite side, No. 7—I saw Miller push the prosecutor down, and kick him at Eldridge's door—I did not see Layton at all—I went for a policeman—they were coming down the court, and took the prosecutor away—he was bleeding very much—he was lying by Eldridge's door at that time.
Miller. Q. Did you see me hit him? A. I saw you kick him down the court—I did not see you hit him with the candlestick—I did not say at the office that I did—I did not say I saw you kick him several times on the head, that afterwards he fell down at Eldridge's door, and you kicked him in the breast.—(The witness's deposition being read, agreed with her evidence.)
CAROLINE ANDREWS . I live at No. 13, Union-court. I know Ronayne—he lived in the same house, in the back parlour—I came home after this occurrence had taken place, between two and three o'clock—I went to my own door, and saw Ronayne standing at the door—the policeman came dawn, and when he saw the policeman he went to the cupboard under the stairs, and removed a hat to the back part of the house, but where he put it I do not know—after the policeman was gone Ronayne came into the back parlour, and about an hour after he went out of the house with a hat on his head—it appeared to he a new hat—I had only known him from the Friday—I had seen him go out and in, but never saw him wear a hat before—Friday was the first time I saw him.
Matthews. Q. Did you see me down the court? A. No—you were in Orchard-street one part of the night with me—you were with me when the prosecutor was going across with two policeman—you were just going across—I do not know how long you had been with me before that.
MR. BALLANTINE. Q. How long was he with you altogether that evening? A. About half an hour, between two and three o'clock, after this was over—he was going down the court with me—he joined me as the prosecutor was going to the hospital.
Matthews. I was with her in a soup-shop in Orchard-street. Witness. Yes, between two and three o'clock—the prosecutor was crying "Police" down the court at that time—we could hear him cry in Orchard-street.
MR. BALLANTINE. Q. When you went away with Matthews? A. When I and Matthews were coming home; it was between two and three o'clock—Matthews then left me, and went down the court, towards where the noise came from.
WILLIAM UPCHURCH (police-constable B 25.) On Sunday morning, the 4th of June, I was in Orchard-street, and heard a cry of "Police" in Union-court—I went there, and found the prosecutor lying down by the side of the house No. 7 in the court, bleeding from wounds on his head—there was a pool of blood on the pavement—I saw Penn up stairs at No. 13, looking out of a window—she spoke to me—I took the prosecutor to the Westminster Hospital—when I was in Orchard-street I saw Miller and Layton, and took them into custody—I told them they were charged with being concerned in this row—I said I took them concerning ill-using a man down Union-Court—they both said they met him in Dean-street; that they had taken him home, and when he got home he would not go out—I have a poker, which I found
on Sunday in Eldridge's house, when I took her into custody, and I found this iron in No. 13, in the back parlour cupboard, the door of which was open—it is 3 jemmy in an unfinished state—it wants filing and the points being opened—I took Ronayne into custody on Thursday evening, the 8th—I said I took him, charged with being down in Union-court, and committing as assault, and robbing a man named Hulme there—he said he was at the row—next morning, when I was taking him up to Queen-square police-court, he asked me how I thought he would get on, for it was a bad job.
Matthews. Q. Did you see me down the court when you came down? A. No.
ABRAHAM WRIGHT (police-constable B 99.) On the Friday following this occurrence I took Matthews into custody—he said he knew nothing about it—I told him he was wanted at Westminster—he asked me what for—I said, for the row that took place on the Saturday night previous in Orchard-street—he said he knew nothing about that; that he was in a soup-shop in Orchard-street at the time it commenced, that he crossed over to Union-court, and saw the man taken to the station, and he asked me if I had been to his father's to look after him—(looking at the depositions)—I know Mr. Bond's handwriting—this is it—(the prisoners' examinations were here read)—"Matthews says, 'I am innocent.' Ronayne says the same. Layton says, 'The gentleman went home with us, he laid down on the bed; we asked him to get up; he said, "No, I am at home;" I put on my bonnet and went out.' Miller says, 'The gentleman asked me to take him home, and he would give me half-a-crown for the night; I took him home; he laid down on the bed, and said he was at home; I asked him to get up; he said he would not; he got up, gave me a shove, and knocked a cup and saucer over; he was so tipsy he fell against the mantel-shelf; I could not get any gin; he struck me; I asked one of the chaps to get him out; he said he would not, I must get him out myself; I went back, and tried to get him out; he struck me again, and I got him into the court—we had no drink.' "
Miller's Defence. I was going to a shop where they sell ginger-beer, and saw the prosecutor; he said to me, "Where are you going?" I said I was going home; he said, "Will you take me home?" I asked what he would give me; he said he would give me half-a-crown; he went into my room and said, "I am at home;" he chucked himself on the bed; I asked him for the money; he said he would not pay me till the morning; I said that would not do for me, and he must go out of my room unless he paid me; he said he would not; he got up; he was so drunk he pushed me on one side; he fell against the mantel-shelf, and knocked the cups and saucers down, he was so tipsy.
Layton's Defence. We met the prosecutor; I was standing there; Miller was going down towards Union-court; the prosecutor came to her, and spoke to her; what passed between them I cannot say; she asked me when I came close to her if I would run down the court; I ran down the court, and put the candle on the table; the prosecutor came and chucked himself on the bed; I put my bonnet on the bed, and walked out of the room; I saw nothing of Miller or the prosecutor till the policeman came and took us in charge; I was asking Miller where my bonnet was—the policeman came and took us; he had my bonnet in his hand; I said, "Give me my bonnet;" he said, "No, you must go to the station."
Layton. I suppose my bonnet was knocked out of the room in the scuffling,
and got into the passage—I asked Miller at the station what was done with my bonnet—she said, "I brought it out, and put it on the stairs."
Matthews's Defend. I was not apprehended till the Friday; if I was guilty, why was I not apprehended before? I was still about the place; 1 was down the court at the time the policeman came down, after taking the man to the hospital—I heard nothing about it till Friday morning; the witness penn says when I spoke to her in the morning, that I said, "You ought to be ashamed of yourself;" she said, "I will see if I cannot bring you into it."
MILLER— GUILTY . Aged 19.
MATTHEWS— GUILTY . Aged 21.
LAYTON— GUILTY . Aged 17.
RONAYNE— GUILTY . Aged 21.
Transported for Life.
Transported for Fifteen Years.
On 2nd Count.
ELDRIDGE— NOT GUILTY .
1794. LOUISA ELDRIDGE was again indicted for feloniously assaulting John Joshua Hulme, on the 3rd of June, and cutting and wounding him in and upon his head, with intent to do him grievous bodily, harm.
JOHN JOSHUA HULME . On Saturday, the 3rd of June, I went with two females into Union-court, and into a house there—I had some gin given me, I and became stupified after taking it—I was beaten by the two women, and turned out of the house—I received wounds which I cannot account for how they came—I received wounds on my head, one in front and two behind—I they are such wounds as might have been inflicted by a poker or crowbar—I have not been able to do any business since—the wound on my forehead was a large cut—it was about the width of my thumb nail, rough, such as a poker I would make, not a sharp cut—it was a bruise, and I had another over the I eye which was not cut at all—I do not remember being struck with a poker.
ELIZABETH PENN . On Saturday night, the 3rd of June, 1 pot my bead out I of the window in consequence of a row that was going on, and saw some vio-lence offered to the prosecutor—after he got out of the house I saw the prisoner with a poker in her hand—she came out of No. 12, next door to roe, I with a poker in her band—I heard a man's voice say, Hit him Louey"—she said she had hit him—as the crowd stood there she had the poker held up—his face was turned towards her at the time, and bis back towards me—she held the poker up in such a direction as if it came down would hate struck hit forehead, and she made a blow which, I suppose, struck bis forehead, but I did not see it go on his forehead—I afterwards taw him, and he was bleed-ing at the back of the head.
Prisoner. Q. Did you see me strike him on the forehead? A. I did not see you hit him—I did not see you come out of your room with the poker in your hand—a young man ran across and gave it you just by the door—I heard you say you had hit him.
MARY SOUTHERBY . On the night of the 3rd of June I saw the prisoner receive a poker from a young man who I should know if 1 was to see—she struck the prosecutor with it—his face wag turned towards her at the time—the blow she struck would have fallen on his forehead—I taw her strike him there—I immediately heard him say, "Oh God, don't kill me"—he had no hat on at the time.
Prisoner. You were standing with a gentleman at the top of the court, and had a bonnet in your hand. Witness. I had no bonnet.
Prisoner. You came down the court before me—I followed you down the court, went into my place, and asked you what was the matter—an old man at our house was standing at the door—I said, "What is the matter?"—he said, "There is a man been robbed outside," and the man itood roaring for
his hat, and his head bleeding—I went into my room, pulled my bonnet and shawl off, and two policemen came in and searched my room—some went out, and then found a bonnet. Witness. She never spoke to me—I did not have a straw bonnet in my hand.
WILLIAM UPCHURCH . I am a policeman. I found the prosecutor in the court—his head was cut in front and bleeding—it was such a wound as this poker might have inflicted—Union-court is in Orchard-street, Westminister, I leading from the Broadway.
COURT. Q. How could this thing happen for two hours without the po-liceman knowing it? A. had taken two prisoners down for felony just after twelve o'clock, and when I came back I took another man for being dis-orderly—I was detained at the station, as there were three or four eharges—when I am called off there is nobody there—two men pass on the other I side of the street on an adjoining beat—if there was the least noise they might I have heard it at the top of the court.
MRS. PENN re-examined. I was near enough to see the poker in the pri-soner's hand—it was about the length of this poker.
GUILTY . Aged 17.— Transported for Fifteen Years.
JOSEPH WINSON . I live in Camomile-street. On the 2nd of June I got rather intoxicated—I left the West-end about nine o'clock to come home-I saw the prisoner in a public-house at Seven Dials—I had two silk pocket handkerchiefs in my coat pocket—I did not lose them—I was too much in toxicated to give the particulars.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Are you a servant? A. Yes—I was out of a situation at this time—I was suddenly overcome—I do not recollect any of the circumstances that occurred—I do not recollect the po-liceman speaking to me—the handkerchiefs were very old—my pocket was not very large—I was not aware of any injury or violence being committed on me.
DAVID COOPER (police-constable V 125.) On the 2nd of June, about half I past twelve o'clock at night, I was on duty in Seven Dials, and saw the pri-soner bringing the prosecutor, who was quite drunk, arm-in-arm up Queen-street—when they got to the public-house the prosecutor stopped—I went to the prisoner, and asked him what he was up to with the gentleman—he said he knew him, and was going to take him home—he pulled him into the public-house—I went round to another door, and pushed it aside so that I could see them distinctly—I saw them stand a moment or so, and then saw the prisoner put his band on the gentleman's shoulder, push him along the side of the bar towards the door, and then put his right hand into the gentle-man's coat pocket, right up to the sleeve of bis coat—the gentleman turned sharp round, which caused the prisoner to take his hand out again—he then went to the bar, and asked the gentleman what he would stand to drink—they had half a pint of gin, which the prisoner gave to two companions that he knew there—after it was gone the prisoner placed his hands on the gentleman again, pushed him along the bar, and put the same hand into the same pocket again—the gentleman turned again, and the prisoner snatched out his hand again—a man who is very well known to us, came to the door to light his pipe, and saw me—he went and whispered to the prisoner, who then took the gentleman by the arm, and took him out of the house—I took him by the collar, told him what I charged him with, and said he must go to the stanofl—he said he would not, he would see me d----d first—I said if he did not I must use violence, and he then went quietly.
Cross-examined. Q. He said he was a respectable penon, and would not go, did he not? A. Yes—I have often been a witness—I do not know that it is contrary to my duty to say that a penon is known to the police—I had seen the man who was lighting his pipe speak to the prisoner on several occasions before that evening—I know him to be a bad character—he goes by the name of Duffy Campbell—I cannot mention any particular day on which I saw him in company with the prisoner—it might be two or three times in the month before—I may have seen him with the prisoner two or three times, I will say twice, from nine o'clock in the evening till two or three in the morning, or thereabouts—I will not swear I have seen him so late as two or three o'clock, perhaps eleven, twelve, or one—I will not say later than eleven, or it might be sine or ten—it might be about eleven on both occasions—I never had the custody, but I have seen him in custody—in 1841 I saw him charged at Bow-street—he was committed, and sentenced to be transported for ten years.
GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined for One Year.
Fourth Jury, before Edward Buttock, Esq.
1796. MICHAEL GRAHAM was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of June, 631bs. weight of lead, value 8s., the goods of Thomas Parker, and I fixed to a building—2nd COUNT, for ripping and breaking it, with intent to steal it.
WILLIAM PARKER . I live in Bainbridge-street, St. Giles's. On the night of the 12th of June, about a quarter to eleven o'clock, I was in bed, and was trowed by my mother—I went into her room, and heard the bricks rolling down the roof of the houae—I went on the roof, and found the prisoner lying in the gutter, the lead torn out from the gutter-board and chimney, and all the nails drawn out—I took hold of him, and said be should come along with Home—he said, "I must do something, for I am starving"—a policeman came tod took him—the lead is my father's, Thomas Parker's, property.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Had the lead been separated from the I roof? A. No, it was still fastened—it was not moved from the place.
RICHARD ETHERIDOE . I am a policeman. I went on the roof of Parker's house, found the prisoner and Parker there, and saw this lead—it waa lying on the wood where it had been, but was twisted round—one end was about a foot out of its place, and the other three or four inches—the prisoner said se-vend times that he was starving—the nails appeared to be drawn out—I found a knife on the prisoner—he said at the station, distress caused him to do it.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you ask him if he had been drinking? A. No. (The"prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY on the Second COUNT. Aged 21. —Recommended to mercy. — Confined Three Month.
PHŒBE PERKINS . I am sixteen years old, and live with my father and mother, in Paul-street, Finsbury. On Sunday night, the 4th of June, about half-past twelve o'clock, I was walking along Holy well-lane, about two slaps before my mother, with two pairs of shoes in my hand, and a pair of boota Hi a separate parcel, lying on my arm—the prisoner came, matched the shoes off my arm, and ran away—I screamed out, ran up Holywell-lane, and down Curtain-road, following him, and crying "Stop thief "—he had an apron round his waist, which I saw fall down as he ran—I did not lose sight of him for more than a moment, in turning the corner, and caught sight of him again,
and saw him stopped by the policeman, who brought him up to me—I believe he is the same man—I cannot swear to his face—I saw that he had a coat on—these are the shoes—they are mine—I live with my father and mother.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How near was you to the turning a the time the man snatched the shoes? A. It was not a great way up Holywell-lane where he snatched them—we were going across Chapel-street, from Shoreditch—the man turned to the left—I am sure the man I followed was the man that was stopped—he passed one turning in the Curtain-road, which is no thoroughfare—I did not see the man's face so as to know it.
PHŒBE PERKINS . I am the mother of last witness—I was coming home with her on this Sunday evening, a little behind her—I saw a man very close to her, and pass very quick—she screamed out "Stop thief"—I did not see him take the shoes—she ran, and kept pretty close to him—he got the start of her down Holy well-lane—I pursued, but could not keep up to them—I lost sight of them at the corner of Holy well-lane—I did not see the prisoner again till he was stopped—a person picked up the shoes, which I claimed—I do lot speak positively to the prisoner, I was so flurried at the time.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you see where the man came from who picked up the shoes? A. I did not—he was in the act of stooping when I first saw him—I tried to pick them up, but he prevented me—I saw them on the ground—he got them before me—I am sure they were not in his hand, unless he put them there before I saw them.
JAMES WRIGHT . I am a cabinet-maker, and live in Curtain-road. At a quarter to one o'clock, on Sunday night, I was in the Curtain-road, and heard a cry of "Stop thief," went to the corner leading to Holywell-lane, and saw the prisoner running full butt—I tried to stop him, but could not—he said, "Don't detain me, there he goes," and ran on—I ran after him—as I was pursuing he threw his arms out—I did not see him throw anything from him—I came up to the place where he did so, at the corner of Gloucester-street, and saw a paper parcel lying, and picked it up—it was these shoes—Mrs. Perkins claimed them and kept them, and gave them to the policeman when he brought the prisoner up—I saw him taken.
Cross-examined. Q. What were you doing? A. Going home—hearing the cry, I ran—the woman found me in the act of picking the shoes up—I would not give them to her—she had me tight—I gave them to the policeman—I thought I might get into a bother—I was in trouble when I was about fourteen, for fighting and being in bad company—I have been a good many times at the police-office, but never for anything of this sort, only for not getting work done in proper time—I have never been charged with making away with property entrusted to me to do work on—there is a matter now before the Police-court, about losing a looking-glass—I gave it out to be done, and I have witnesses to prove it—I have been at the Police-office twice before this, on complaints of different people, exclusive of the fighting.
HENRY CHAMBERS . I am a policeman. I heard a cry of "Stop thief"—I saw the prisoner running towards me as hard as be could, on the other side of the way—I crossed over to meet him—he tried to shun me, and ran into the street—I caught hold of him in the middle of the street—he said, "What do you stop me for?"—I said, "Come back with me and see"—he said, "I am running after another man"—I saw no one running before him—the first witness said, "That is the man; he has robbed me of my shoes"—I went back to the top of Cumberland-street—Wright brought the shoes to me.
Cross-examined. Q. Where were you when you first saw him? A. In
Cumberland-street, which runs into the Curtain-road—I was about 250 yards from the Curtain-road when I first heard the cry of "Stop thief"—I saw nothing till I was in Cumberland-street, which is the second turning from Holy well-lane.
WILLIAM MORELL . I am a policeman. I was in the Curtain-road—I heard a female cry out, and instantly heard a cry of "Stop thief"—I ran towards Holywell-lane, saw the prisoner running, closely pursued by the girl—he had on a white apron, which appeared as if he was folding it up—I pursued till he came to the corner of Gloucester-street—saw a man try to stop him, he stepped on one side, and ran straight on—I pursued him to Cumber-land-street, where he was stopped by Chambers.
Cross-examined. Q. What street was he in when you first saw him? A. Just turning the corner of Holywell-lane into Curtain-road—I was on the opposite side of the way, and saw plainly what occurred.
NOT GUILTY .
GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined Eighteen Months.
NOT GUILTY .
MARY MILLARD . I am the wife of John Millard, of Union-street, Spitalfields—he is employed at Messrs. Smith's distillery—on Wednesday, the 10th of May, about four o'clock in the afternoon, my little boy George, who is six yesrs old, had a pair of new boots on—two hours after Mary Ann Follett told me something, and I asked my little boy about it—the boots were my husband's property—I have not seen them since.
SOPHIA CORBETT . I am the wife of Thomas Corbett, a labourer, of Pelham-row, Mile-end New Town. On Wednesday, the 10th of May, between three and four o'clock, I was at work in the back washhouse of the Crown, Grey Eagle-street—there is a thoroughfare through the house into John-street—I saw the prisoner leading this little boy through the passage—he had boots on his feet, and white socks—three quarters of an hour afterwards I saw the child again in front of the Crown, crying, and several people round—he had not got his boots on then—I am sure the prisoner is the girl, and this is the boy—I had never seen the prisoner before.
MARY ANN FOLLETT . I live with my father in Pearl-street, Spitalfields. On Wednesday evening, the 10th of May, at a quarter to five o'clock, I saw a crowd in John-street, and the little boy in it, crying—he had got no boots on—I went and told his mother where he was.
NOT GUILTY .
MART ANN NEWMAN . I am the wife of Charles Newman, a fruiterer, in Lamb-street, Spitalfields. On Wednesday, the 2nd of May, between two and three o'clock in the afternoon, I dressed my children, Sarah and Mary Ann—Sarah, who is seven years old, had on a pair of new shoes—they went
out together to play in Spital-square, two doors off—I heard something two hours afterwards—in consequence of which I went to Spital-square, and found my children in the lobby of a house there, without their shoes—I took them home—on the Friday following, about five o'clock in the afternoon, my children were at my window—they both called out—the prisoner was going by at the time—I went to the window, and saw her—in consequence of what the children said, I went after her, brought her back to the house, and asked Sarah, in the prisoner's presence, if she was the girl—she was to terrfied she could not speak, and I let her go—the child said something afterwards, and I went after the prisoner again—she ran away—I did not catch her.
SARAH NEWMAN . I am seven years old—some time ago I and my sister went to play in the square where we live—the prisoner came up to us, and said, "Will you let me take off your shoes?"—she took me into a lobby, and said I must take off my shoes—she wanted me to go up into her room—she took them off, and said, "Will you go up into my room, it is a pretty place"—there was nobody there when she took them off—she went away with the shoes, and left me and my sister in the lobby—after she was gone I knocked at the door—a gentleman came out—I told him the girl had run away with my shoes and my sister's—my mother came soon after to the lobby—a few days after I was looking out at the window, with my sister, I saw the prisoner passing, and called out—I am sure she is the person—I did not know her before she took my shoes off.
Prisoner's Defence. About six weeks ago I met the prosecutrix; I passed her; she came behind me, and said she wanted to speak to me; I went with her; she fetched the two children, and asked me if I knew them; I said "No;" she asked the children if they knew me; they said "No;" she let me go.
GUILTY .— Confined Three Months.
1802. MARGARET PATERSON was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of June, 1 handkerchief, value 3s., the goods of William Walker; 1 coat,2l.; 1 handkerchief, 1s.; and 1 nightcap, 6d.; the goods of Edward Kitchen.
WILLIAM WALKER . I am a sailor, and lodge in Mary-street, Poplar. On Saturday, the 14th of June, about ten o'clock, I was coming from the West India Docks, and called on the prisoner, at Red Lion-court, Poplar—I knew her before—I told her I was in a muck sweat—I had a coat on—I am not used to wear one—I took it off, and laid it on the table—she asked me what I was going to stand—I said I only had a penny—she said she had three half-pence, she would go and get a pint of ale with it—I said, "Bring me in a pipe along with you"—she brought a pipe—I went down stairs to light it, and left her in the room, with the coat—when I came up, in about five minutes, the coat and the prisoner were gone—I went out and spoke to the constable—I did not lend her the handkerchief to put round her neck—I cannot say what she did with it—this is the coat—it belongs to Edward Kitchen, my shipmate, who lent it me—it was in my custody.
Prisoner. Q. Did you not first see me at the Red Lion? A. No—I did not take my coat off and ask you to pledge it—I said, "It belongs to my shipmate, don't make away with it"—you did not say Mary had taken my coat to pledge, nor did I say "Never mind, I will get it out to-morrow."
ANN DOWLING . I lodge in the same house with the prisoner. On the afternoon of the 14th of June, between one and two o'clock, I was at the Harrow—she came to me with this coat, and asked me to pledge it—I asked who it belonged to—she said it was all right, it belonged to Walker, that he had told her to pledge it, and she had his handkerchief on her neck, which he had taken off his own and put on hers, because the sun should not burn her
skin—I asked why she did not pledge it herself—she said she did not like to because she had pawned his jacket for 4s.—I took the coat, and pledged it at Mr. Ogilvie's—I gave the prisoner the money and ticket—she treated me, and said she was going to fetch Walker's jacket, which she had pledged the week before for 4s. 6d.—she stooped down, and took the ticket out of her stocking while she was at the Harrow.
Prisoner. Q. Did not I tell you to pledge it in my name? A. Yes, and you blamed me for not doing so.
WILLIAM SLADDEN . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner into custody, and told her what it was for—she said, "Oh, it is about that coat, Walker gave it me at a brothel to pledge"—I found this handkerchief and red nightcap on her—she said Walker had given her the handkerchief to put round her neck, and the cap she took out of the coat-pocket—I also found the duplicate of the coat and 5s. 10d. on her.
Prisoner's Defence. He told me to take the coat, and asked me to look if there was a nightcap and handkerchief in it; he put it on my neck, as it was bare, while I went to pledge the coat.
NOT GUILTY .
JOHN DELAMORE . I live with my brother, who is a livery-stable keeper, in Crescent-mews, Minories. On Tuesday morning, the 8th of June, I went to my brother's to dress a horse—I took out my silver watch, and laid it on a bar in the stable—I forgot it, and left it there—next morning I went to look for it, and it was gone—this now produced is it—I know the prisoner—I had frequently turned him out of the stable—I did not see him there that day.
WILLIAM BROOKS . I am a policeman. On the 10th of June I received information, and saw the prisoner come out of a watchmaker's shop—I followed him, and asked if he bad not got a watch in his possession—he said he had—I asked where it was—he immediately gave it to me—I asked where he got it from—he said he had found it in the Minories, on the step of a door.
GUILTY . Aged 32.— Confined Two Months.
1804. GEORGE HAWKINS was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of June, 36lbs. weight of lead, value 5s., the goods of William Howes, and fixed to a building: 2nd COUNT, not stating it to be fixed: Two other COUNTS, stating it to be the goods of Henry Richmond.
WILLIAM HOWES . I am a bricklayer, and live in Hart-street, Covent-garden. I took possession of a house, No. 34, Hart-street, belonging to Henry Richmond—the prisoner's father formerly resided there—I took possession of it on the 8th of June, and was to pay my rent quarterly—on Friday I went on the roof of the house, and it was all right—I employed some people to repair the house—on Saturday, the 10th, about a quarter to five o'clock, in consequence of information, I went on the roof again, and found about nine feet of lead cut out of the centre of the gutter—it must have been cut with a sharp instrument, and the edges were bright, as if recently done.
Westminster. On the 10th of June I was employed by Mr. Howes on the premises in Hart-street—between four and five o'clock that afternoon the prisoner came into the back yard where I was at work, and asked if we had seen a bit of looking-glass in any of the rooms up stairs, which his father had left behind—I said I had not—I went after some mortar, and when I came back the prisoner was not there—about ten minutes or a quarter of as hour after I saw him at the foot of the stairs in the passage, going out with a parcel under his arm, wrapped up in a handkerchief—I called out to him, and asked what he had there—he made no answer, but walked away—he had no bundle when he came in.
LAURENCE QUINLAN . I was employed at No. 34, Hart-street, Covent-garden, on the Saturday, and saw the prisoner leave the premises with a bundle under his arm. I heard Kelly cull, and ask him what he had in it-he made no answer—I followed him up the court—he took the bundle from under his arm, and put it on his shoulder—there was something which appeared heavy in it—he looked round, saw me, and ran away.
Prisoner. Q. Who sent you after me? A. No one—there were two men in the yard besides me and Kelly—when I got out of the alley you were nearly at the top—when you saw me you ran as fast as you could—I went back, and told the men you had something.
JOHN THOMAS HANSLOW . I am a police-sergeant. About seven o'clock, on the 11th of June, I met the prisoner in Drury-lane, and took him—I told him he was charged on suspicion of stealing some lead from No. 34, Hart-street—he said he had never been near the place, and he could prove it—he resisted violently, flung himself down on the pavement, and said he would not go.
Prisoner. I walked across the road, laid down, and said I would not get up till you told me what it was for; and when you told me, I got up and walked. Witness. You went gently till we got across the street, and then flung yourself down, and tried to get me down also, and said you would set me d----d before you would go.
Prisoner's Defence. I had just done work on Saturday, at No. 68, Long-lane, Smithfield, where I had been along with my father to finish a job; we had left a glass behind us at this house, and the gentleman had said we might have it the first day the house was open—I went and spoke to the bricklayer about it, and others that knew me, and walked out again—I had my father's flannel jacket under my arm, and he had his tools on his back; I never touche the lead.
(Richard Maguire, a jobbing bricklayer; James Clements; John Hennicker; and Timothy Heffron, of Lincoln's-court, Drury-lane; gave the prisoner a good character; but stated they knew he was tried and acquitted last Sessions for stealing lead.)
GUILTY . ** Aged 18.— Transported for Seven Years.
ANN SMITH . I am a widow, and live in Bluegate-fields. The prisoner rented a furnished room of me at 4s. a week for a good bit, but latterly did not pay her rent—finding the door locked and the key gone for three or four mornings, I at last broke it open, and missed two sheets and two blankets, which were in the room when I let it to her—these now produced are them.
ANN WARD . I live at Mrs. Smith's. On Good Friday the prisoner gave me this blanket, said it was her own, and asked me to sell it for her, as she had had nothing to eat all day—I sold it to Mrs. Hodsell for 2s., and gave the prisoner the money.
Prisoner. Q. Did not you come up to my room and ask to leave the blanket for 2s.? A. No, nothing of the kind—I was never up in your room, you brought it down to me.
MARY ANN HODSELL . I am the wife of William Hodsell, of Ratcliff-highway. Ward brought this blanket to me on Good Friday, and asked if I would give her 2s. for it, which I did—I afterwards gave it to the policeman.
GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined Six Weeks.
THEOFIL RUSINOWSKI . I reside at No. 6, Rose-street, Soho-square. Between nine and ten o'clock on the night of the 12th of June, I was going along Broad-street, Holborn, and saw a crowd of people outside a public-house, and stopped to ask what was the matter—I felt somebody's hand in my coat pocket, pulling my handkerchief out—I placed my hand behind, and caught the prisoner's hand—I turned round, and the prisoner was standing by my side—the handkerchief dropped at my feet—I did not see him drop it—I picked it up, caught the prisoner by the jacket, and held him till the policeman came—this is my handkerchief.
Prisoner's Defence. It was not me; I was standing in the crowd; the gentleman touched me on my shoulder, and said, "Give me my handkerchief; "I said, "I know nothing about it;" he found it about three yards from where he was standing.
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Twelve Months.
NEW COURT.—Monday, June 12th, 1843.
Fifth Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.
REBECCA ANN WATT . I am the wife of Robert Watt; he lives at Claremont-cottages, Hollo way. On the evening of the 11th of May, about a quarter, to eight o'clock, I got into an omnibus in Exmouth-street, to go to Holloway—I went to the farther end from the door—a lady sat next me, and my little girl sat next me on the other side—a young man sat next to the lady, on the cross seat, but I did not notice him—I had this blue satin bag hanging on my arm—a lady who sat opposite me got out, and the young man who sat on the cross seat at the end followed her out—the lady next to me then asked if 1 had lost anything out of my bag—I looked, and found my bag still on my arm, but it was cut, and my purse gone from it—I had seen it in the course of the afternoon, about three o'clock—I had not looked at my purse afterwards—I am certain my bag was not cut when I got into the omnibus, or the things must have dropped out—my purse had 15s. 8d. in it, in half-crowns, shillings, and two fourpenny-pieces—this now produced is my purse and money.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. The lady who got out was immediately next you? A. No—she had been opposite me—the prisoner was next but one to my side—the lady who asked me if I had lost anything was between the prisoner and me—I have not seen her since.
COURT. Q. Tnat lady did not get out did she? A. No.
LEWIS PAGE . I live in Charles-place, Hackney-road. I am the condoctor to the omnibus—I set down a lady in High-street, Islington—as she was getting out, I saw the prisoner getting out rather faster than passengers usually do, and as soon as he was out Mrs. Watt called out, "Some one has cut my bag"—the prisoner was then walking fast—I called after him, and he ran—I ran after him, and he was caught I think in Noel-street, by two gentlemen just as I was going to catch hold of him—he asked what I wanted—he had got his hand behind him under his coat—I took hold of his arm, and he dropped this purse—I picked it up, and gave him to the policeman—I found 15s. 8d. in the purse in half-crowns, shillings, and two fourpenny pieces.
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Twelve Months.
1808. WILLIAM ROLFE was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Henry Frederick Hawker, at St. Matthew, Bethnal-green, on the 19th of April, and stealing therein, 1 cloak, value 1l.; and 2 coats, 2l.; his goods.
MR. DOANE. conducted the Prosecution.
WALTER CREED . I live in Preston-terrace, Green-street, Bethnal-green, and am a sergeant in the 2nd regiment of Tower Hamlets Militia. On the 19th of April, I was on duty as ordinary at the house of Captain Henry Frederick Hawker, at No. 4, East-side, in the parish of St. Matthew, Bethnal-green—between eleven and twelve o'clock that day, I placed two coats and a cloak, or wrapper, after I had brushed them, in the orderly-room on the ground floor—the window of that room looks out on to Bethnal-green, at the back of the new church—the window was a little open—there was a wire blind to that window, and a brass bolt at each end of it—no one could get in without removing the blind, as it comes nearly to the top of the top pane of the bottom sash—I left the house by the street door, which I closed after me, and the iron gate of the fore court also—the clothes were Captain Hawker's—some keys were given me, and I took them to the station, and gave them to Mr. Young.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. When did you leave the house? A. About one o'clock—I am quite sure I shut the door—I pushed my hand against it, and found it was fast—I did not know Captain Hawker's name was Frederick till this happened—he stated it at the indictment office—I did not hear him give in his name as Henry Frederick Hawker—it was not given in to the clerk while I was present—I do not know whether his name was Henry Frederick, or Frederick Henry, or Henry only.
MR. DOANE. Q. Did you hear the name Henry Frederick called out? A. No I did not—I was never present when he answered to that name—I did not hear the officer tell him his name was Frederick—I never heard the Captain say his name was Frederick—I never heard it in the regiment, or out of it—I was not in the indictment office when his name was called out.
ELIZABETH RAMSAY . I am in the service of Captain Hawker, his Christian names are Henry Frederick. On the 19th of April, about half-past one o'clock in the afternoon, I heard a ring at the bell—I went to the door, and found several persons there—one of them told me what had happened
about the clothes—I went into the orderly room, and found that the cloak, and coats were gone, and the window quite open as far as the Bath would go up—the wire blind was lying on the floor.
Cross-examined. Q. How do you know Captain Hawker's names are Henry Frederick? A. I heard it called over on being sworn the last time we were here—Captain Hawker was with us when we went to give evidence, and Walter Creed with us, and all the witnesses—when they were making out the bill, I heard Captain Hawker's name inquired after, and Captain Hawker came in a few minutes afterwards—I had before heard that his name was Henry Frederick.
MR. DOANE. Q. You had eard his name was Henry Frederick? A. Yet, I heard Creed say so—the captain came into the indictment office—I do not know whether he gave his name in when he came in—I heard his name asked for, but I do not know that he was there—he was present part of the time—he was present when his name was mentioned as Henry Frederick.
COURT. Q. You said when his name was called he came in a few minutes after, and still you say he was present when his name was mentioned; what was called out? A. "Captain Hawker"—he came in after that—after he was in the room, his name was mentioned as Henry Frederick.
MARY MALONEY . I am a laundress—I work next door to Captain Hawker—on the 19th of April I was looking out of the laundry window, about twenty minutes after one o'clock—I saw the prisoner standing, with two other men, about the length of this Court from Captain Hawker's house, in front of it—I saw Price, who was one of them, go into the garden in front of the house—the prisoner and the other one walked by the garden gate—I cannot tell where Price went when he went in the garden; but he had no bundle when he went into the garden, and he had a bundle under his arm when he came out—Price came out twice, and gave something out of his pocket each time, and the third time he came out with the bundle on his arm, and gave it to the other one, who was then standing with the prisoner—the outside of the bundle was red—they then parted; Price went to the right, and the prisoner and the other went to the left together—I ran out, and called "Stop thief"—Price then joined in the cry, and ran after his companions—he then joined the prisoner and the other, and they all ran together—when they got to the lunatic asylum on the green, the bundle was thrown oter the palings into the garden of the asylum—I followed the prisoner and hit companion, but lost sight of them—I received these keys from Howard.
Cross'examined. Q. Did you not first say that the prisoner was not the person? A. Yes—he did not receive any of the property, or interfere with it at all—when he was with the man who took the things, he could see Captain Hawker's house—he was standing on the path, and I was in the laundry, on the same side as Captain Hawker's house it—I denied the prisoner to the officer, but I turned away to my mistress, and said they were the men—I never told the officer that they were the men—my mistress told them they were—I said I did not wish to have anything to do with them, I did not know whether they were the men.
MR. DOANE. Q. What did you say at first? A. I said they were not the men, because I did not wish to have anything to do with it—I told my mistress that they were the men—I am sure the prisoner was one of the men who stood at the rails while Price was in the house—I have not the least doubt of it.
"Stop thief," turned my head, and saw three men running—the prisoner was one of them—one of the men who was with the prisoner had a bundle, and I saw him chuck it over the pales of a garden.
CHARLES DURMAGE . I am a bricklayer, and live near Bethnal-green-road, On the 19th of April I was going towards the church in the middle of Bethnal-green—I saw some person throw a bundle over the pales of the mad-house—I went and got it—it was this cloak and these two coats.
EMMA HARBEN . I live in Coventry-street, Bethnal-green. About two o'clock in the afternoon, on the 19th of April, I was looking through a window into my father's garden—I saw a number of persons going past, and the prisoner was among them—I saw him turn down towards my father's garden, and take a small bundle, and throw it over the gate—I went down to open the gate, and the prisoner passed by me—he undid his trowaers, and went to the wall—I went into the garden, and found this bag, which he had thrown over—it contained these keys—I threw them down, and Howard picked them up.
Cross-examined. Q. Had you ever seen him before? A. No—I was standing, looking through a window, which looks down an opening—then was a cry of, "Stop thief," and after that I saw the prisoner go down the opening, and throw the keys into the garden.
JAMES HOWARD . I live with my father, in Bath-street, Bethnal-green. I remember the mob running, and the cry of, "Stop thief"—I saw the prisoner run down the opening which leads to Harben's garden—I saw him take something white from his pocket, and throw it over the fence of the garden—Emma Harben came into the garden, and took it up—she threw it down, and I took it up, and gave it to Maloney.
Cross-examined. Q. Had you seen the prisoner before? A. No—my father is a weaver—he was out—I saw Maloney running without her shoes, and I thought she was the servant—I was about six yards from the person who threw the keys over—he turned his back towards me.
THOMAS BARTLETT (police-constable K 286.) I received information of this robbery on the afternoon of the 19th, and a description of the persons—I saw the prisoner with Price and another person, about half an hour afterwards—Thorpe took the prisoner—we took him and Price to Maloney—she first said they were not the men—she appeared to be much agitated—I did not feel satisfied by the way in which she answered me—I took them to her again, and desired her to look at them again—she said, "I don't want to have anything to do with them"—Price broke out of Stepney station, and was taken again—he has now escaped from Newgate.
THOMAS THORPE (police-constable K 219.) I was with Bartlett on the afternoon of the 19th of April—we met the prisoner with Price and another person—they saw us, and separated—I took the prisoner—I told him what it was for—he said he knew nothing about it—I took him up to the captain's house, but I did not go in.
GUILTY . Aged 23.— Transported for Ten Years.
1809. BRUNSWICK HOLLOWAY was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of May, 1 bottle of oil, value 8d.; 1 bottle of paint, 1s.; 6 graind of rouge, 4d.; 9 grains of carmine, 6d.; 5 boxes, 6d.; and 1 sixpence; the property of Samuel Crouch, his mastet; to which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 13.— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined Twelve Months.
1811. WILLIAM WILSON was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of May 9 shirts, value 7l. 7s.; 3 handkerchiefs, 16s. 6d. 5 pairs of stockings, 10s. 1 pair of drawers, 10s.; 2 waistcoats, 2l. 10s.; 5 towels, 9s.; 1 table-cloth, 11s.; 3 napkins, 3s.; 1 box, 1l.; 7 shillings, 1 sixpence, and 1 penny; the goods of Frederick Green: and 2 shirts, value 1l. 4s.; 4 handkerchiefs, 1s. 6d.; 1 pair of drawers, 7s. 6d.; 2 pain of stockings, 4s.; 1 handkerchief, 1s. 6d.; 2 collars, 2s.; 1 towel, 1s.; 1 blanket, 1l.; 1 box, 1l.; 1 half-sovereign, and 2 shillings, the goods of John Whitehead.
MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.
FREDERICK GREEN . I am a solicitor, and live at No. 13, King's Bench-walk, Temple. I send my linen to a laundress at Camberwell—I used to put it up in a wooden box which I locked—one of the porters fetched it from my chambers, and left it at the porter's lodge—on the morning of the 8th of May, I packed up seven shirts, two night shirts, three silk handkerchiefs, and the other things stated—they were worth about 14l. or 15l.—I put in 7s. 7d. to pay the previous week's bill—I left my chambers locked up about a quarter past nine that morning—Mr. Whitehead'a linen was in another box—I have not seen any of my property since.
JOHN WHITEHEAD . I live with Mr. Green. On Monday, the 8th of May, I packed my linen in a box—there were two shirts, and the other things stated, worth 5l. 15s., with a half-sovereign, and 2s. in cash, to pay the preceding week's bill—I left it in the bed-room, in the box, about five or ten minutes past nine—I have never seen it since.
EDWARD COLLINS . I am a porter in the Temple., I called at Mr. Green's on the 8th of May, and took away two boxes to the head porter's lodge in King's Bench-walk, and left them there—I found the chambers locked—I went to the laundress for the key, and got the boxes.
SARAH CONSTABLE . I live with the head-porter at the lodge. On Monday rooming, the 8th of May, there were two boxes led there—they were Mr. Green's and Mr. White head's—the prisoner called about half-past three—he said, "I have come for Mr. Green's linen to go to Camberwell;" and I gave him the boxes—I had seen him before, he had been there twice before—I have no doubt he is the person—he put a piece of cord through the handles of the boxes—he took them up Mitre-court to Fleet-street—about five minutes after four o'clock another person called for the boxes—I told him they were gone—I afterwards went with Leadam to the George—I saw the prisoner there—I told Devonshire that was the man.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Was it not the fact that the officers pointed the prisoner out to you? A. No—there were twenty or twenty-five persons in the room—I cannot swear that the officer did not say, "Is that the man?" but I did not hear him—he did not tell me that he was going to take me to see if a man was there that had taken the boxes—I knew what I was going for—it was the carrier came and fetched me—the policeman did not tell me what I was going to the house for—I went in with Leadam, and Devonshire kept back—it was to Leadam I said, "That is the man"—he took me into the room, and he said to me, "Is that the man?"—I said, "Yes, it is the man"—I knew the prisoner, by his calling occasionally for the boxes—on the first occasion he could not tell me the name of the washerwoman,
and I required him to get it—he came afterwards, and gave me the name gave him the boxes—I have never intimated any doubt as to the prisoner—I never said, that if I should be mistaken I hoped I should be forgiven—I said I hoped the prisoner would forgive me, but that was not if I should happen to be mistaken.
MR. BALLANTINE. Q. You said you hoped the prisoner would forgive you, what did you mean? A. Because I did not like to hurt the poor man—I never had the least doubt about his being the person—he stopped about five minutes the first time he came—I have not the least doubt the prisoner is the man.
ROBERT LEADAM . I am a porter of the Inner Temple. On Monday afternoon, the 8th of May, I was opposite the porter's lodge—I saw some boxes fetched away by a man something like the prisoner—he is about the height of the man—I saw his side face, but I cannot speak positively to him—he had the boxes slung on his shoulders with a cord, and went through Mitre-court—on the 12th of May I went with Sarah Constable to the George, in the Old Bailey—I went into a room and saw the prisoner—I asked her if that was the man—she said yes, she would swear to him—the carrier told me that the prisoner sat in that room.
SYDNEY WATKINS . I was in the employ of the Camberwell carrier—I have known the prisoner some time—I sent him twice to King's Bench-walk to fetch things, and he brought them—I did not send him on the 8th of May—I did not see him on that day—he has never delivered the boxes to me—I gave information to Devonshire.
Cross-examined. Q. You sent him twice for the clothes, and he brought them to you? A. Yes, he never came back to me and requested the name of the woman—I never sent him three times.
JOHN DALOETTY . I am the Camberwell carrier. Watkins was my servant—I have never received these boxes belonging to Mr. Green—I did not authorise the prisoner to fetch them—I do not know that I ever saw him.
WILLIAM DEVONSHIRE (City police-constable, No. 287.) I have seen the prisoner—on the 9th of May, I had information given to me of this robbery, and I received a description of the man from Constable—in consequence of that, I sent for her on the 12th of May, but I did not point out any person to her—I never went near, but she identified the prisoner—I went in and fetched him out—Constable gave him into custody—I knew the prisoner wai in there, and I considered by the description that he was the person—I bad seen him walking about the Old Bailey for the last month, but I did not see him about there, on the 9th of May—when I got him to the station, he gave his name as William Wilson—he would not give any address—I knew his mine was William Belstead—I found out where he lived, and that he bore the name of William Belstead.
Cross-examined. Q. You have been very active in search of the property? A. Yes; but I have not found any of it.
GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined Twelve Months.
1812. FRANCIS OZMOND was indicted for stealing, on the 9th of March, 6 shawls, value 5l. 18s.; 1 cape, 15s.; 1 waistcoat, 15s.; 4 pairs of gloves; 49 yards of fringe, 9s.; 1 bag, 2s.; 1 sovereign; 1 half-sovereign; 1 shilling; and 1 sixpence; the property of John Baynes, his master.
9th of March I gave him a parcel, containing several shawls, waistcoats, trowsers, and other things, to take to Mr. Baynes, in the Borough, where the dying is done—they were entrusted to Mr. Baynes—the prisoner never came back—I did not see him again till he was in custody.
JAMES FOSTER BAYNES . I am a partner with my father John Baynes, in Backman-street, hut not in Brook-street, Holborn. The prisoner was in my father's employ, and used to come to the shop in Blackman-street every day—he did not come on the 9th of March, and I did not see him till he was in custody—I did not receive any parcel from him on the 9th of March—about six weeks afterwards we sent to the pressers, and received a small parcel which he had left there.
THOMAS COOK . I am in the employ of Mr. Baventock, in Bean-street, Soho. Two or three weeks before Easter, the prisoner came and asked me to let him leave a bag—he took a green baize parcel out of it, and took that away with him and left the bag—I did not see him again.
GUILTY . * Aged 20.— Confined Six Months.
NEW COURT.—Tuesday, June 13, 1843.
Sixth Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.
JEREMIAH SIMS . I am foreman to Charles William Waterlow, a builder, in Bunhill-row. On the 3rd of June, I received information about half-past eleven o'clock in the morning, and went into the premises at Nos. 66 and 67, London-wall, which are under repair—the prisoners were all employed there—Moore was a bricklayer, and the others are labourers—I had that morning given Moore orders to remove a sink—about half-past one o'clock I was called into the cellar to supply some oak to cover over a sink—I did not see anything at that time, but I watched and saw Bains look out of the warehouse-door two or three times—he left the warehouse, crossed London-wall, and went down Blomfield-street, and in a minute or so, Driscoll came out of the warehouse with a basket on his shoulder and went after him—a policeman was with me—we followed—I overtook Driscoll in Bloomfield-itreet, and took the basket off his shoulder—Bains was a little way a-head of him, and I desired the policeman to take him—I found in the basket about 40lbs. of lead—I did not know the lead—I believe the premises belong to Mr. Waterlow's father.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. You ordered Moore to take a sink down? A. Yes—on the Monday, he was at the police-office, and I gave him into custody by Mr. Waterlow's direction, as the other prisoners stated Wore the Magistrate that Moore was in it
GEORGE SAVAGE . I am in Mr. Waterlow's employ. On that morning, about half-past ten o'clock, I saw Moore and Bains taking down the sink-after it was taken down, I saw Moore take out of the front wall a leaden trunk, and give it to Bains—it was not attached to the sink—it was for the use of the sink—I saw Bains take it into the back cellar—Driscoll began to beat it up in the cellar—I gave information—I remained on the premises till twelve o'clock, when I went to dinner—when I came back beween
one and two, Driscoll and a man named Kelly were knocking up the lead again—Mr. Sims came down to get some planks to cover a cesspool—I then saw Driscoll put the lead into a basket and take it out—he passed me with the basket on his shoulder he could see me very plainly—Moore was there at the time, another bricklayer, me and another labourer—I did not see what became of Driscoll, and the lead afterwards.
THOMAS PHELP (City police-constable, No. 116.) I received information about half-past one o'clock—I saw Bains leave the house, and Driscoll followed just behind him with a basket between his shoulders—I took Driscoll, and Bains came back—he said he was going to have half a pint of beer—there was a public-house close by.
NOT GUILTY .
THOMAS SANDERSON . I am in the service of William Somerville Orr, and two others, booksellers, in Paternoster-row. The prisoner was in their service about a year and a half—having suspicion I marked two half-crowns, three shillings, six sixpences, two fourpenny pieces, three penny pieces, and eight halfpence—I put them into a till in the counting-house, about one o'clock, on Sunday, the 28th of May—it was not locked—the next morning, about twenty minutes after eight, I went to the drawer and found one half-crown was gone—I desired the prisoner to show me what money he had in his pocket—he took his money out and gave it to me, and amongst it I found this half-crown—I knew it at once from the mark I had made on it—this is it.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Where is the mark? A. It is made with a pen knife across the middle of the word Britannia—the prisoner was not on the premises on Sunday—I was alone—a woman who comes to wash the place was there on Monday as well as the prisoner—I made the examination before business time—the prisoner was porter—Mr. Orr is here.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 22.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Four Months.
DANIEL CHARLES CAMPBELL . On the 26th of May, I was at the Anchor, at Whetstone, about ten o'clock in the morning—I had been travelling all night—I laid my head on the table, and went to sleep for about an hour and a half—the prisoner was sitting there drinking beer when I awoke—he presented me with my box—I asked where he got it—he said he picked it up—I then missed my handkerchief from my neck, five shillings from my trowsers, sixpence from my waistcoat pocket, and a small wrapper, and a comb—I accused the prisoner of taking it—there were other persons there when I went to sleep, and when I awoke, but at a different side of the room—this handkerchief is mine—it was round my neck when I went to sleep and these other things are mine.
CHARLES HAWKES (police-constable V 295.) I took the prisoner about half-past ten o'clock that morning—I found this eomb and wrapper in his great coat pocket—his hat was off, and this handkerchief was partly in his hat and partly out—I found 3s. 4d. in his possession—the prosecutor was sober—the prisoner was in liquor—he said, in going along, he had only picked him of one tanner, meaning a 6d. I believe.
Prisoner's Defence. The prosecutor came into the house about one o'clock in the morning, I believe, but I was rather intoxicated; we were larking together all the night; I was intoxicated, and so was he; we were drinking till about half-past five o'clock in the morning; I paid for tenpenny worth of meat and two cups of coffee; we had two pots of beer, and when it came, he bad no money, I pulled out the money and paid for it; he gave me the handkerchief, and as we were both coming to London together, he went and washed his face, and combed his hair; he laid the comb on the table, with the wrapper round it; he then went to sleep, and so did I; I awoke, and took up the comb and the handkerchief, and left my great coat in the bar for two hours.
DANIEL CHARLES CAMPBELL re-examined. I was not intoxicated—I did not give him the handkerchief—I had it round my neck when I went to sleep—I asked him for it—he used a vulgar expression, and said I might do as I liked—I paid for the beer, not him.
GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined Six Months.
FRANCIS JOHN OSBORNE . I live in Castle-street, Holborn. On the afternoon of the 6th of June I was in Chancery-lane, and had my attention called by two gentlemen—I felt my pocket, and missed my handkerchief—I had used it about five minutes before—I turned, and saw the prisoner running towards the gate of the Common Pleas office—I caught him in the gateway, and took my handkerchief from his bosom—I gave him in charge—this is my handkerchief.
GUILTY . ** Aged 19.— Confined Twelve Months.
THOMAS MIDGELBY . I keep the Twelve Bells public-house in Bride-lane—the prisoner was in my service—in consequence of something, I marked five shillings in pence and halfpence—I took all the other copper out of the till except a few farthings, and put the marked money in between two and three o'clock in the morning of the 18th of May, I put down the shutters of the bar and bolted them, and to make them secure put a wedge in between the shutters and the frame—I locked the bar, and put the key in my trowsers pocket—I went up to bed, and left it there till the next morning—I had information from my wife, in consequence of which I gave the prisoner in charge—these halfpence correspond with those I marked.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. What is the mark? A. A mark with a file, on the edge, under the head.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you not tell the justice you saw the money put into the till? A. I might have done so.
Cross-examined. Q. Have you kept the money ever since? A. Yes; locked up in my own box.
GUILTY. Aged 34.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Four Month.
MADDEN pleaded GUILTY . * Aged 24.— Confined Six Months.
JAMES CATCHPOLE . I am a servant—about ten o'clock in the evening of the 26th of May, I was in Pudding-lane—I met the prisoners—they asked me to treat them—I went to a public-house with them—we had something, which I paid for out of some silver which I had in my left-hand trowsers' pocket—I afterwards went with them down a dark lane or passage, close by the Monument—after I had been there three minutes Morden ran away—Madden was talking to me, and about two minutes after she left me, saying she would go and look for her friend—I missed my purse from my right-hand pocket, containing thirteen sovereigns, a half-sovereign, and two half-crowns—I went after Madden, and overtook her in King William-street—she topped—I said, "Where is your friend you were looking for?"—she said, "I don't know who she is, nor where she is, I never saw her before"—I said, "Just come across the street, there is something wrong"—she said, "I will"—I saw a policeman, and gave her in charge—I afterwards went with the policeman to Smithfield—I there saw another policeman, named Courtney, and we found Morden—I am sure she is the person—she was conveyed to the station—as we were going along I said, "How do you do? you are just the person I was looking for"—I nipped her hand, and she said, "Oh my thumb"—she had showed me her thumb when first I met her, and said she had had it bit—I said, "I forgot about your thumb"—I do not know whether it was the same thumb—she did not show me the thumb again—my purse was afterwards given to me—this is it—I was sober.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. The purse was found on one of the prisoners? A. Yes, on Morden—she had left my company first—I am servant to Dr. Bush, of Clapham.
DAVID HUDSON (City police-constable, No. 583.) In consequence of directions, I went with the prosecutor to Smithfield on this night—I saw Courtney—I afterwards went with him, and saw Madden in West-street—she was taken.
Cross-examined. Q. The prosecutor has made a mistake in the names? A. Yes.
WILLIAM COURTNEY (City police-constable, No. 206.) The prosecutor came to me between eleven and twelve o'clock, and I went with him after Madden—I pointed her out to him, and he gave her into custody—Morden had been taken before I took Madden—I gave her to Waller, the searcher—she went with her to a private place, and came back and gave me this purse.
Cross-examined. Q. Are you quite sure the prosecutor is mistaken when he swore that Morden was the one he found in Smithfield? A. Yes, it was Madden he found in Smithfield.
MORDEN— NOT GUILTY .
MARGARET GLASS . I am in the service of Thomas Powell, who has a stall in the Bazaar, in the Strand. About one o'clock, on the 19th of May, the prisoner came and asked to see some brooches, and chose a white cornelian one, which was 7s.—he wanted it for 6s. 6d.—I would not let him have it—he said the governor would let him have it for less—I said the governor was up stairs—I went with him to the top of the stairs—I there showed him Mr. William Powell—I went away and left him—he had the brooch in his hand—I saw no more of him—I did not sell him the brooch.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. I believe you knew him as a customer? A. I did not—I have not been very long there—I have seen him about twice before.
WILLIAM POWELL . I am manager of the bazaar, the proprietor is Mr. Thomas Powell—I did not see the prisoner that day at all—when the books were made up the brooch was wanting—I then found the prisoner had come up stairs, but I did not see him.
Cross-examined. Q. Were you on the premises? A. I was in the dwelling-house, and backwards and forwards—the prisoner had been in the habit of coming backwards and forwards for a month—I give no credit—he gave me an address two days before, at Peers'hotel, Salisbury-square, Fleet-street, which was incorrect.
MR. BALLANTINE called
----PEERS. I know the prisoner—he lodged at my hotel for a day or two—he was there about the 19th of May.
NOT GUILTY .
MR. WILSON conducted the Prosecution.
FRANCES SARAH THOMPSON . I am the wife of Frederick Octavius Thompson, who lives in Charterhouse-street. On the 18th of May the prisoner came to look at our drawing-room and bed-room—he was known to Mr. Meredith, of the Charterhouse, and left a card referring to Hatchett's hotel, where he said he had resided, but he had gone to Salisbury-square, Fleet-street—he came the following morning—I was coming up stairs, and met him in the passage—he had a book, called "The Views of the Rhine," which he had taken from our bookcase—he asked me to let him take it to show a friend, and he would return it in the evening—that was the only one I saw he had—I then went into the room, and missed another book, called "Anecdotes of Napoleon."
Cross-examined. Q. Have you seen the books again? A. No.
FREDERICK RUSSELL (City police-constable, No. 203.) I was at the station when the prisoner was brought there—he said at Guildhall that he had taken the books, but he should return them to Mr. Thompson when he was dismissed, as he expected to be discharged—he called the books "Views on the Rhine," and "Anecdotes of Napoleon."
MR. BALLANTINE called
RICHARD MEREDITH . I am in the Charter-house. I am a prosecutors in a case against the prisoner—I have known him since last September-from that time to this he seemed to be a very different man—I think there must be as aberration of mind; and I told him, about two days after he came to London, "You don't appear to be the same man that you were"—he was cashier at the Shrewsbury Bank till it failed, and he has respectable friends.
NOT GUILTY .
NOT GUILTY .
THOMAS LAWRENCE . I am in the service of Thomas Samuel Rawson and another, East India merchants, in Moorgate-street. About four o'clock in the afternoon of the 12th of May I was in the room on the ground floor-on leaving the room I met the prisoner with a table on his shoulder, coming up stairs—I stopped him, and demanded what he was going to do with it—he said to take it out—I asked by whose orders—he said a man outside—I gave him into custody—the table was in my employer's care.
ROBERT TAYLOR (City police-constable No. 144.) I received the prisoner—he said he was employed by a man who met him in Finsbury-square, took him down there, showed him the table, and desired him to carry it out—he did not show me any man.
GUILTY . * Aged 27.— Confined Six Months.
CHARLOTTE THOMAS . I am the wife of John Thomas, of Baldwin's gardens. Between three and four o'clock in the afternoon of the 17th of May I saw the prisoner in Dove-court, Leather-lane—he took up a dog belonging to Mr. Laidler, put it under his coat, and went through the court with it—I went to the prosecutor, and told him which way the prisoner had gone—I stood at my stall, and saw the dog come back through the court.
WILLIAM LAIDLER . I live in Leather-lane. I lost a dog—he had on a brass collar, and padlock to it—they are mine—Thomas gave me some information—I went in pursuit of the prisoner, and found him in Baldwin's-gardens—he let the dog drop from under his coat, and began to show fight—I let him go—I went in search of an officer—the collar and lock were on the dog's neek—I saw the prisoner stopped.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. What sort of a dog was it? A. A spaniel, worth about 1l.
GUILTY . Aged 32.— Confined Twelve Months.
GUILTY . Aged 12.— Confined One Month, and Whipped.
GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined Twelve Months.
CHARLES BELL . I am a saddler, and live in Wigmore-street. On the evening of the 18th of May I missed a saddle from a rail projecting from the shop door—I went out and saw the prisoner, about two hundred yards from my shop, with it in his hand—on my approach he tossed it away, and ran away—I pursued, and took him in Vere-street—I did not lose sight of him—he fell down in running, and I caught him.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How far from your shop did you like him? A. About five hundred yards—I passed three or four turnings—the saddle is my own work, and has my name on it
WILLIAM CHAIG (police-constable D 97.) I took the prisoner—I told him at the station that he was charged with stealing a saddle—he said he knew nothing about it—I went to the butter-shop in Wigmore-street, and found this saddle.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined Three Months.
EDWARD BURLS . I am a baker, and live in Langley-place, Commercial-road; the prisoner was in my employ; it was his duty to receive money on my account, and to give it me directly he returned. On the 28th of Nov. I received a notice that he was ill at home—he did not bring me any money that day—a few days afterwards I heard something, and went after him—I did not find him till the 16th of May—I attempted take him, but be ran away—I pursued and called, "Stop thief"—he was stopped—he begged me to forgive him, and to go to his father—I supply a person named Wellflin with bread—on the 28th of Nov. there was 1l. 18s. 2d. due from her—the prisoner has never paid me that money, or accounted for it.
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Six Months.
NEW COURT.—Wednesday, June 14th, 1843.
Fifth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.
GUILTY .— Confined Eiahteen Months.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
1829. DANIEL HARNETT , and JOHN JAMES PICKMAN were indicted for stealing, on the 20th of May, 1 watch, value 2l. 10s.; and 1 stand, 10s.; the goods of William Blandford; arid MARTIN LANE , for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing them to have been stolen; against the Statute, &c.; to which
HARNETT pleaded GUILTY . Aged 13.— Transported for Seven Years—Convict Ship..
PICKMAN pleaded GUILTY . Aged 10.— Confined Ten Days and Whipped.
WILLIAM BLANDFORD . I am a carver and gilder, and live in Bouverie-street. On the 20th of May I left home about nine o'clock—this is the case of my watch—it was the first one I had of my own, and my name is in it.
HARRIETT BLANDFORD . On the 20th of May I locked the parlour door—the watch was safe hanging over the mantel-piece in the parlour—I went out—I returned about eleven o'clock—the door was unlocked then, and about twelve I missed the watch.
CHARLES MILLER . I am a pot-boy. I was going to the prosecutor's premises that morning, and met Harnett in Bouverie-street coming from the Coach and Horses—I went again with some beer, and saw Harnett coming off the steps of the prosecutor's door with something under his jacket—I do not know what it was.
GEORGE WARDLE (City police-constable, No. 235.) I took Harnett—I told him the charge, and then I took Pickman—I afterwards went after Lane, and found him in a court in King-street—I told him I wanted him to go with me—he said, "I suppose it is about the watch?"—I said "Yes"—he said, "I sold it for 3s. 6d., and had 10d. out of the money"—he said he had sold the works to a boy for some halfpence, and hearing of the other two boys being in custody he went to the boy, got the works back again, and threw them in the bottom of a sewer in Well-street—I found this case at Collingridge's.
EDWARD COLLINGRIDGE . I purchased this watch-case of Lane for 3s. 6d.—it weighed about an ounce—I first stopped it, and told him to send his mother—about an hour after he brought a man, who stated that it was perfectly right, it was found by the boy, and that his mother went out nursing—I purchased it partly through the man's observation, and gave the money to Lane—he told me a boy named Pickman found it in Whitechapel. Lane's Defence. I never had the watch; it was all smashed to pieces; I found two or three little wheels, and sold them to a boy—I bought it of Pickman; he told me to say he found it; I never had the stand.
LANE— NOT GUILTY .
MR. DOANE conducted the Prosecution.
JAMES LOWNDES . I am son of William Lowndes, of the firm of William, James, and Charles Lowndes—they are warehousemen, and live in Watling-street—they deal in the articles stated in the indictment. The prisoner was their town traveller down to last September, and had to carry out articles every day to sell to customers—those things which he did not sell it was his duty to bring back in the evening—he left us last September without the least suspicion.
SOLOMON AARON . I am a pawnbroker, and live in Great Charlotte-street, Blackfriars-road. I produce three children's robes and twelve capes, which were pledged at our house on the 10th of September, and a child's robe pawned on the 7th of September, all by a woman in the name of Ann Barton, who was in the habit of pledging at our house—I do not know the prisoner or whether the woman lived with him—these duplicates were given to her.
house on the 16th of July by the prisoner in the name of John Bates—he has been in the habit of pledging at our shop in that name—these duplicates were given to him.
Cross-examined by MR. WILDE. Q. How long have you known him? A. Perhaps two years.
JOHN MAY . I am a pawnbroker, and live in Skinner-street. I gave the duplicate for these articles—the prisoner is the person who pawned them one Saturday night, he took out some other things—he persuaded me to take them—we do not generally take these fancy things.
JOHN MOYLE (police-constable M 207.) I took the prisoner on another charge on the 9th of May—in searching his place, I found a book, and, from what I found in the book, and what I heard, I went to Mr. Loundes, and found these duplicates.
JAMES LOUNDES re-examined. I got these duplicates from my uncle—the prisoner's father gave them up—these are all articles that were in our stock, and to which the prisoner had access, on account of his duty—they are worth 9l.
Cross-examined. Q. You have various persons carrying on that business? A. Yes—no one has the power of selling these articles round the town—I have no mark to tell whether these have been sold—the prisoner went away with a good character.
MR. BODKIN. Q. Have these articles the shop marks pinned on them as they are in your warehouse? A. Yes—in general, when they are sold the marks are taken off—some may have them on—nothing was ever sold to the prisoner.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined One Year.
NOT GUILTY .
RICHARD POLLARD . I am a grocer, and live in Union-street, Spitalfields. On the 13th of May I had a lump of sugar safe about seven minutes before I missed it—this is it—I know it because the paper is torn at the top—I swear to it—it weighs 41lbs. 2oz.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Did you ever weigh it? A. Yes, before I lost it.
WILLIAM DAY DAVIES (police-constable H 36.) I stopped the prisoner with this sugar, in Dorset-street, about a hundred yards from the prosecutor's—he threw it down, and ran about twenty yards—I ran after him.
Cross-examined. Q. Where did you stop him? A. In Fashion-street, the next street to where I saw him—I am quite sure I saw him throw it down—it was between eleven and twelve o'clock at night.
GUILTY . Aged 28.— Confined One Year.
shop, with a child—a woman at a stall told me something, I stopped the prisoner, and asked if she had a coat—she denied it—I pulled her cloak aside, and took this coat from under her arm.
Prisoner's Defence. I had occasion to pawn some things at Mr. Wells's; as I was coming out a woman asked me to hold the coat for her, and he gave me in charge. Witness. She did not tell me she had had it given to hold, but that she had nothing.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 37.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined One Month.
1834. JOHN SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of May, 1 towel, value 1s. 9d.; 1 brush, 7d.; 2 razors, 1s.; and 1 sovereign; the property of Thomas Scotchmer; and that he had been before convicted of felony.
MARY SCOTCHMER . I am the wife of Thomas Scotchmer, a hairdresser, in Brick-lane, Spitalfields. About six weeks ago the prisoner came to take the shop, at 12s. a week—we occupied the shop between us—I had a box in the back parlour—when I came home on the 1st of May I missed the jack-towel and two razors—I had a sovereign locked up in a box—I came home about four o'clock, and my little girl said something—I went to the box, and found it was locked, but the back part of the hinge was broken open, and the sovereign gone—the prisoner was gone too—he ought not to have been away—this is one of the razors—it is my husband's—the prisoner was taken on the 9th.
MIRAM GILL . I am ten years old. On the 1st of May the prisoner came to work for my mother—about a quarter of an hour after my mother had gone out, I was sitting in the shop with the child—he said, "You had better go up stairs, or in the yard; the paint will get down the child's throat"—I staid up stairs about a quarter of an hour—the prisoner sent me for a screw-driver—a little girl gave me one that morning.
JAMES CRISFIELD (police-constable N 345.) The prisoner was given into my custody—I said he was charged with robbing the prosecutor—he said it was no robbery—I found on him this razor, and wig, and some cuttings of hair.
Prisoner's Defence. I had the screw-driver down stairs; the razor was sent to the grinder's, and generally the master's name is put on the razors, as this is.
GUILTY . Aged 25.— Transported for Seven Years.
1835. SARAH READ was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of May, 1 sheet, value 2s. 10d.; and 1 spoon, 2d.; the goods of Joseph Beecham: 1 shirt, value 1s.; and 1 pair of stockings, 6d.; the goods of George Beecham; 1 pair of stockings, value 3d.; 2 handkerchiefs, 6d.; and 1 pair of drawers, 9d.; the goods of Arthur Utteridge; to which she pleaded
GUILTY . * Aged 40.— Transported for Seven Years.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How do you know them? A. By wearing them so long, and they are cut down with a penknife. JANE WHEBELL. I am housemaid where the prosecutor lives. I pledged these boots on the 31st of March, by the prisoner's direction—I gave her the money.
Cross-examined. Q. Was she housekeeper there? A. Yes—I pawned them in my own name.
Cross-examined. Q. Did she not say she was sorry, and meant to redeem them? A. Yes.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 33.— Confined Nine Months.
(There was another indictment against the prisoner.)
1837. ELIZABETH BANKS was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of April, 4 decanters and stoppers, value 1l. 15s.; 1 claret jug and stopper, 14s.; 5 bottles, 12s.; 2 salt cellars, 2s.; 9 wine glasses, 7s.; 2 glass tumblers, 2s.; 1 spoon, 4s.; 1 blanket, 15s.; and 1 petticoat. 5s.; the goods of Peter George Patmore, her master.
ELIZABETH PATMORE . I am the wife of Peter George Patmore. The prisoner was in my service for one week—I lost four decanters and other things—I can swear these are my decanters—they have been in my possession for years—this spoon I can swear to by the initials, and this other spoon I have no doubt is mine.
Prisoner. Q. Did you not say the day after I entered your service, that another servant robbed you of some wine glasses? A. Yes.
Prisoner's Defence. The duplicates belong to me.
GUILTY . ** Aged 33.— Transported for Seven Years.
(There was another indictment against the prisoner, who has been repeatedly in custody.)
ALFRED PENNY . I am shopman to Mr. Thomas Warren and another, pawnbrokers, Old-street, St. Luke's. Between twelve and one o'clock on the 17th of May, I was at the door—the prisoner came and asked the price of a picture—I said 1s.—I then saw this lathe safe on some work boxes—I went to the other end of the stall to attend to a gentleman—the prisoner went away very quickly, and I missed this lathe—I pursued the prisoner—he chucked down this lathe in King-street, and I took him.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How near were you to him? A. About twenty yards—I am sure it was him.
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined One Year.
JANE WILLIAMS . I lodge at a brothel in Crown-street, Westminster. I met the prisoner in a coffee-room—she told me she was in great distress—I took her home and gave her shelter—I missed a dress on the 17th of April, a few hours after she left the room—I did not see her again till the 18th of May—I charged her with stealing it—she said she had pledged it, and showed me the place—I believe she was in great distress.
GUILTY. Aged 17.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Three Days.
CLARK pleaded GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Three Months.
CHARLES HEASMAN . I was in the employ of William Clark, a baker, in Hammersmith. About twelve o'clock on the 19th of May, I left my barrow and basket on Brook-green—I returned in ten minutes, and missed two bags and 6lbs. weight of flour—these are them.
WILLIAM HAINES . I live in Brook-green. On the 19th of May I saw Clark take the flour out of the basket, put it on his arm and go away—Rivett was picking the bread, and was by Clark's side when he took it—I saw him do it, and went away with him.
Rivett. I went to Clark's brother to take a note, and while I was away this happened.
RIVETT— NOT GUILTY .
1841. WILLIAM LIPSCOMBE was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of May, 1 watch, value 1l. 5s.; 1 seal, 3s.; 2 watch keys, 2s.; 1 purse, 6d.; 2 sovereigns, and 1 half-sovereign, the property of John Canham, in a vessel on the navigable river Thames.
JOHN CANHAM . I am master of the Mary Ann, of London, which laid in the Newcastle tier off the Tower—I sleep in the cabin. About half-past twelve o'clock at night, on the 15th of May, I wound up my watch, and laid it over the bed-place, and my purse, containing two sovereigns, was in my waistcoat pocket, hanging on the state-room door—the officer came about three in the morning, and then I missed my watch, money, and purse—this is my watch, seals, and key.
CHARLES HENRY FALCONER . I am inspector of the Thames-police. About two o'clock in the morning, of the 16th of May, I was on the river—I heard some one, in an under tone, calling to a waterman, "I will give you a tanner to put me on shore"—but the man being busy, he rowed past—I heard him ask the same of another waterman, but he rowed past—I desired one of my waterman to get into a boat and row past—he went—the prisoner called him, and he took him into the boat—I shot out in my galley, boarded, and overhauled the prisoner—I found this watch and appendages in his
right-hand jacket pocket—I found six half-crowns in his pockets, but no sovereigns or half-sovereigns.
Prisoner. It was in my left-hand pocket.
GUILTY . * Aged 18.— Transported for Ten Years.
Prisoner. He told me to pawn them before he went to sleep. Witness. I did not—I was not drunk—the prisoner and I had had four pints of beer together—I did not treat four other persons that I know of.
Prisoner's Defence. The prosecutor told me he would pawn them, and spend the money, if he could not sell them.
----Porter. I am prisoner's mother—I saw the prosecutor the morning he went before the Magistrate—he told me that he told the prisoner if he did not sell articles, he would pledge them and spend the money—he was sorry he had prosecuted him, and he did not wish to do it—he said they were both tipsy.
JOHN KEELY re-examined. I did not say any such thing—I spoke to the Magistrate, but he said it was too late—I might have said that I might have pledged them myself, but I did not tell him to pledge them, that I recollect.
NOT GUILTY .
1843. HENRY MILLS and John Davis, were indicted for stealing, on the 19th of May, 2 pairs of trowsers, value 1l. 8s., and 2 waistcoats, 5s.; the goods of Issac Levi Miers, and that Mills had been before convicted of felony.
AARON NATHAN . I manage the business of Isaac Levi Miers, in Chiswell-street. About nine o'clock on Wednesday evening these trowsers were safe, and when I arrived, about a quarter past eight next morning, I missed them, as the boy was opening the shop—I got a policeman in private clothes to watch the shop, and next morning, the 19th, I placed myself in a public-house oppsite—the boy opened the shop at eight o'clock—soon after he opened the door, previous to his taking down the shutters, the prisoners came and went into the shop—I watched them out—we followed them to Whitecross-street—they turned, saw me, and ran—the policeman caught Davis—I took Mills, in Whitecross-street—I went to the station, and saw these two pairs of trowsers and two waistcoats, found on Davis—they were safe the night before—they have the tickets on them, which are always taken off when they are sold—they are my master's.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How far off were you looking? A. About twenty yards—I am not in partnership with Mr. Miers.
(Davis received a good character.)
MILLS— GUILTY . * Aged 21.— Transported for Seven Years.
DAVIS— GUILTY .—Aged 21.— Confined Three Months.
MARY PRESS . I am the wife of Simon Press; we live in Upper Dorset-street, Marylebone. About three o'clock, on the 13th of May, I had four metal cocks, safe—about twenty minutes to four, I received information, and missed them—they have not been found.
JOHN SLOMAN . I am a groom, and Jive in Hector-place, Marylebone. I was in Dorset-street this afternoon, and saw the three prisoners lying on the prosecutor's railings—I had known them before—they laid there about ten minutes, then Foot got up, and looked in the shop—there was no one there—he told the others there was no one there—then he cut down the taps, which were tied to the side of the door, and gave them to Morris, who gave them to Dabster—I gave information, and followed them up Seymour-place, round by the church, and I lost them.
JOHN BOOTH . I live in Dorset-street. Between three and four o'clock this day, I was looking out of the window, and saw Foot go to the prosecutor's door, take a knife out of his pocket, cut the taps, and put them on the table—Morris took them up, and handed them to Dabster—they went of with them before I could get down.
CHARLES ALLEN . I was at my father's door, and saw the prisoners run away—Dabster had something under his jacket—they went round by St. Mary's church, and I after them, and then Dabster showed them some taps.
ROBERT HOARE (police-constable D 72.) I took the prisoners, and found this piece of string, which had tied the taps, in Morris's pocket—Foot said, "You d----d fool, why did you not chew it, and then they could have nothing against us at all."
FOOT*— GUILTY . Aged 14.
MORRIS*— GUILTY . Aged 14.
DABSTER*— GUILTY . Aged 17.
Transported for Seven Years.—Convict Ship.
ANN NEWLAND . My father's name is James Newland; he lives in Devonshire-street, Lisson-grove. On the 11th of May I hung out a shift to dry—I missed it—the prisoner lives in the back yard—she was brought back by her mother—this is it.
Prisoners Defence. I was unconscious to whom it belonged, except that it was my mother's; I went to my mother's, and finding she was not at home I made free with the property; I intended to redeem it.
NOT GUILTY .
ornamental fire-papers—one was brought up stairs, and I would not have it—I went down stairs to see if my cloak and coat were in the passage, and the coat was gone—I looked out, and saw the prisoner running along the square with something under her arm, and bulging out by the side of her basket—she ran as fast as she could, and got round the corner to White Horse-lane, and down towards Trafalgar-square—when I got round I lost sight of her—I made inquiries of a man, and then saw her walking down a street—she saw me, and ran, and I ran too—she got round the corner, and when I got round she was stopping—I accused her of taking the coat—she said she had not—I looked into her basket, and there was nothing about her—a man on the opposite side pointed to some rails—I looked, and there was the coat—it was about a quarter of a mile from my house—I took her to the station—she first denied taking the coat, and then wished me to look over it, and let her go.
NOT GUILTY .
GUILTY .— Confined Nine Months.
1848. MICHAEL SHEAN was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of May, 4 leaves of bread, value 1s. 3d., the goods of Edward Somers.—2nd COUNT, stating it to be the goods of Richard Atkins; and that he had been before convicted of felony; to which he pleaded
GUILTY .— Confined Six Months.
1849. ELIZABETH CARTER was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of June, 1 gown, value 2s. 6d.; 1 scarf, 3s.; 2 yards of ribbon, 1s.; and 1 printed book, 2s.; the goods of William Thorpe, her master; to which she pleaded
GUILTY .— Confined Ten Days, in Solitude.
1850. MICHAEL DONNOLLY was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of May, 1 purse, value 6d.; four half-crowns, 1 shilling, 1 groat, and 1 5l. note; the property of John Robertson, from the person of Rebecca Robertson.
REBECCA ROBERTSON . I am the wife of John Robertson, and live in Henneage-street, Poplar. Between two and three o'clock in the day on the 25th of May, I was standing at the corner of Berner's-street, Oxford-street—I felt the prisoner's hand coming away from my pocket—I am quite sure he is the boy—I had a purse in my pocket containing a 5l. note, four half-crowns, a shilling, and a fourpenny-piece—the prisoner ran away, and I ran after him, and cried, "Stop thief"—he was stopped by a gentleman's servant—I said, "That is the boy that picked my pocket"—he said he was not, it was another boy—somebody told me something, and there was an examination made in an area—after a great deal of persuasion, the prisoner said he threw it into an area—my money and purse was brought out of the area which he had passed by.
GEORGE HAGGAR . I live in Foley-street. I was in Berners-street, and saw the prosecutrix had hold of the prisoner's arm—several persons persuaded her to let the prisoner go—I took him by the arm, and took him to the-station—he cried, and said he threw it down the area—I went to the area, and found the purse, which the prosecutrix identified.
Prisoner's Defence. Another boy gave it me.
GUILTY. Aged 11.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Six Months, Two Weeks Solitary.
EDWARD BARKER . I am second officer on board the Tecumtia, in the West India Docks. On the 22nd of May I was on board—I saw the prisoner—I asked him what he wanted—he said he was waiting to get employ—I saw him leave the deck with something under his jacket—I took him with this copper—it belongs to the owner of the ship, Robert Glass, jun.
Prisoner's Defence. I was waiting for a job; my master told me to go on board, and he would give me one; the mate said, "What are you doing here?" I went away, and found this copper in the dirt-bin, on deck; I was tipsy.
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Three Months.
HARRIET OSBORN . I am the wife of Thomas Osborn—I have a little boy named Thomas Osborn—on Saturday evening, the 13th of May, I sent him out with a half-crown, one penny, and two half-pence—he came back with the prisoner and a policeman, and said, in the prisoner's presence, that the prisoner took the money, and gave it to the other boy, who gave it to him again, and then ran away—this is the paper it was wrapped in, and here it the piece I tore it from.
RICHARD BROWN . I heard the little boy complain of the lost of his money—I ran after the prisoner, and overtook him—he pulled out this money and paper, and said it was not him that took it, it was the other boy.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined Four Days, and Whipped.
GEORGE HARROP . I have one partner—we live in Ashby-street, Clerk-enwell—the prisoner was my apprentice—on the 25th of May, we looked into his box at dinner time, seeing what gold he had, and saw something like 14dwts. of gold cuttings—in the afternoon we asked for his cuttings, and said we wanted to melt them up—he gave up 3dwts. twenty odd grains, and said that was all he had—when he left at night the boxes were all brought in—the foreman asked me to look into the prisoner's box to see if these cuttings were there—they were not—I told him to look into his drawer, and they were not there—I watched the prisoner out, and said, "John, I want you; where are those cuttings out of your box?"—he said, "I have got no cuttings"—I said, "You may as well tell the truth, and pull them out of your pocket"—he said he had none—I called the foreman—he said, "Where are the cuttings?" and he pulled out this tin box, with the cuttings in it weighing 1oz. 11dwts. 12grs.—they had no business in his pocket.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. His friends are respectable? A.
Yes—I had no premium with him—he was turned over from a brother of mine till he is twenty-one—we always weigh out the gold, and weigh it again, so that we know what we use—I never charged him with robbing us before—I said it would be better to tell the truth, either before or after the foreman came in.
Cross-examined. Q. How do you know it? A. Some of them I observed in his box at dinner-time—they are worth 4l.
(The prisoner received good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Three Months.
Sixth Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.
ALFRED HOBDAY WRIGHT . My mother keeps a fishing-tackle shop in Bell-yard, Temple-bar—she is married to Robert Joy—I conduct the business for her. On the evening of the 8th of June I was up stairs, and heard the shop-door open—I went down immediately, and found the door open, and saw the two prisoners outside—Joseph had his foot on the step—he asked me if I was in want of any bait—I said "No"—they both went away—I missed a winch, a line, and a hank of gut from the counter, which were safe about five minutes before—this is the line—it is my mother's—it was on the counter—I went I with the officer to Fetter-lane, and aaw both the prisoners—one of them went into a shop, the other remained outside—I was about fifteen yards off—Ralph saw me—he came out and went away—I can swear to their persons.
GEORGE WARDLE (City police-constable, No. 325.) I was called by Mr. Wright, and went in search of the prisoners, and saw them together in Fetter-lane—Ralph went into a shop, and Joseph staid outside—Ralph came out again, and Joseph crossed to another shop—Ralph turned his head and saw us, and ran off—I immediately took Joseph, and found this line on him—I took Ralph the following night, but found nothing on him—Joseph said, "D—n the line, I wish I had never seen it."
Joseph Gyoury's Defence. I met a lad just before I went into the prosecutor's shop; he asked if I wanted to buy a fishing-line; I gave him 1s. for it; I went to the door; I then went to some other shops in Fetter-lane; I could have thrown it away.
NOT GUILTY .
1855. ROBERT HENRY EGERTON, JOHN VICKERS , and THOMAS VICKERS , were indicted for stealing, on the 10th of May, 6 1/2lbs. weight of sugar, value 3s.; 6lbs. weight of soap, 3s.; 1/2 lb. weight of tea, 2s.; 2 1/2lbs. weight of candles, 2s.; 1 pot of jam, 1s.; 1 bottle, 2d.; 1 pint of wine, 10d.; and 1lb. weight of tapioca, 1s. 8d.; the goods of Demetrius Henry Warton, the master of Egerton; and that Egerton had been before convicted of felony.
MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM SMITH (police-constable E 151.) About half-past six o'clock in the morning of the 10th of May, I was in Portland-place—I saw John Vickers come out of Duchess-street with a basket across his shoulder—I saw Nelson and Thomas Vickers close to the corner—I followed them—John crossed to the other side of Portland-place towards me, the other two passed on the same
side to Regent-street—I followed them all three down Portland-place and Regent-street—they crossed Oxford-street and down Regent-street—they joined company about 200 yards on the other side of Regent-street—I went up to them, and said to John, "What have you got? where have you got it from?" he said, "I will very soon satisfy you if you will go back"—Egerton was not there then, only Amelia Nelson and the Vickers'—(Nelson was admitted as a witness)—I directed another officer to take John—Nelson then said, "I will go back and find the young man who gave the things to him to carry," and she ran away—I took the two Vickers' into custody, and found in this basket this soap, a bottle of wine, a pot of jam, some moist sugar, pieces of sperm, tea, and other things—I went back in the direction they had come, and in Great Marylebone-street I saw Nelson nearly opposite Mr. Warton's shop—Egerton was opening the shop—he was in Mr. Wartson's employ—I went and spoke to Mr. Warton—I asked Egerton if I might speak to his master—after speaking to him I called Nelson into the shop—she was outside, and Egerton was inside—he heard what I said to Nelton—I asked her which of the shopmen gave the articles—she pointed to Egerton, and said, "That is the young man"—Mr. Warton said, "You don't mean to say that, Robert?"—Egerton said, "Yes, I do, sir; I am very sorry for it; I hope you will forgive me"—I took him and Nelson to the station—as we were going, Egerton asked if he would be forced to give his right name—I told him he would—I went again to Mr. Warton's—I went up stairs, and with a key which I found on Egerton, I unlocked his box, and found some other articles, which Mr. Warton will not swear to.
Cross-examined by MR. CHARNOCK. Q. Who was present when this conversation took place? A. No one but myself and Mr. Warton—nothing was said to Egerton in my hearing before he made that statement—he was a good deal excited.
AMELIA NELSON . I live with my sister in Jacob-street, Bermondsey—Thomas Vickers lives in my house—I keep company with him—on this morning I and he took a walk over from Bermondsey—we met John in St. James's Park—I and Thomas walked together, and John walked on before us—we afterwards went towards Portland-place—at the top of the street John left us—he said he should be gone but a short time—we walked on, and John had not come up with us when the officer took him—he had something in a basket—I do not know what—when the officer came up, John asked me to go and tell Robert, and I was going towards Mr. Warton's shop—on the Sunday before, I had seen Egerton at Mrs. Vickers', at Dock Head—John was there—Egerton told him to come up to him to carry some things for him—I did not hear when he was to go—I afterwards went in front of the shop, looking for the number of the house, and saw Egerton opening the shop—I told him John Vickers was taken—I was taken into the shop by an officer—he asked which was the person—he said, "Is that the young man"—I said, "No, that is more like him," pointing to Egerton.
Cross-examined. Q. You would not swear to him? A. Yes—I am pretty well sure—I am twenty years old—I did not wait at the corner of the street—I and Thomas were walking to go home—we started about half-past five—I got up about four—I was locked up—the policeman said I was the only witness he could have.
DEMETRIUS HENRY WARTON . Egerton was in my service about a fortnight—he gave me a week's notice to leave—on Wednesday morning the policeman came—Nelson was called in—she was asked to point out the person that had given the basket—she said, "It was not that young man, but it was the other," pointing to Egerton—I said, "Is that the case,
Robert?" he said, "Yes, sir, I am very sorry for it; it you will go in the back parlour, I have something to tell you, something of consequence"—I said, "I will have nothing more to do with you; policeman, take him in charge"—this jam was prepared by myself—it is the same sort as I have, and done up in the same way—this label on it is mine—these sperm pieces are such as I buy.
Cross-examined. Q. You took Egerton of the gentleman of whom you took the business? A. Yes—I had a list of the stock—I will swear that these articles were in the stock—I swear to this pot of jam—I am sure it had not been sold—I can swear to these wax pieces—I know the bag.
MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Is there a bottle of wine? A. Yes, it is a whole bottle, within about a gill—it was a whole bottle when it left me—I heard the prisoners say something before the Magistrate—it was taken down—this is the Magistrate's signature—(read).
"Egerton says, I have nothing particular to say; the other shopman there now took the bottle of wine last night; we look it up stairs and he drank part of it." "John Vickers says, He told me to come up on Tuesday morning, and I went and carried the things; he said he would give them to my mother and pay his master." "Thomas Vickers says, I know nothing of it more than the young woman says."
John Vickers's Defence. Egerton gave me these things.
(John Vickers received a good character.)
EGERTON— GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Four Months.
JOHN VICKERS— GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Three Months.
THOMAS VICKERS— NOT GUILTY .
THOMAS MARRIOTT . I keep the Crown public-house, in High-street, St. Giles's. Between three and four o'clock, on Saturday afternoon, the 20th of May, the prisoner came for a pint of ale—I served her—she came back and said she did not wish for a glass, and returned it—she had she ale in a pot; and went and sat down—I did not see her go away, but in the afternoon the policeman brought me this pint-pot, which is mine—it was not beaten up as it is now, when I served her with it.
JOHN ABREY (police-constable G 117.) About four on this afternoon I saw the prisoner go into a marine-store shop, in Peter-street, Saffron-hill, with this pot, bent as it is now—she spoke to the shopkeeper, and came out with the pot—she put it down before I got to her—I think she saw me—I asked what she had done with the pint pot I saw in ber hand—she said she had put it down against a hair-dresser's door—I returned to the place—she said it was the pot she put against the hair-dresser's door, and I might take it up for what she cared.
Prisoner. I beg for mercy.
GUILTY. Aged 32.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Seven Days.
WILLIAM M'MIN . I live with my father, John M'Min. At nine o'clock in the evening, of the 24th of May, I was at my father's door in Tabernacle-walk, Finsbury—I saw the prisoner and another young man standing next door to Mr. Thomas's shop, which is opposite, talking together—they saw me, and I walked on—I turned round and saw the prisoner put
his foot on the prosecutor's step, and take a piece of muslin off a pile in the shop—he put it under his jacket, and ran away with it—I told Mr. Thomas.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Did you see what became of the other man? A. He walked away.
JOHN JENKINSON (policeman.) I was on duty in the City-road—I saw the prisoner walking along with something bulky under his jacket—he turned into Baldwin-street—I followed him—he saw me, and ran—I collared him—he got from me—I caught him again in the act of dropping something behind him—I took this muslin from him.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you see no other man near him? A. No.
Cross-examined. Q. It was just by the door? A. It was inside—as one could reach it without coming in.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Two Months.
JAMES STEVENSON . I am a linen-draper, and live in Sydney-place, Commercial road. On the morning of the 26th of May, I was at my door—I saw the prisoner come up to my door—I went back into my shop, got on the counter and watched her through the window—I saw her take hold of two prints, and draw one piece out from the bundle that was outside the door tied togother—she doubled it over, and laid it on the top of the bundle—a female then came to the window, and the prisoner walked up and down in front of the shop—the other person came in, and I told hex my object—I saw the prisoner then come again to the bundle, take this print, and put it under her left arm—she then came into the shop, and asked the price of the muslin handkerchiefs which were hanging up—I told her 3 1/2 d.—she said they were too dear—she went out, I and the young man went after her, and took her with the print—she said she hoped we would not give her in charge.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. Did she not say you must have made a mistake? A. No—she said she was going to buy a yard and a half of it—she did not say she had forgotten it—she was begging for forgiveness—she had 1s. 4 3/4 d.—she said the halfpence would pay for it.
COURT. Q. When she came in, and asked about the handkerchiefs, did she say anything about buying the cotton? A. No.
Cross-examined. Q. Did she not say he made a great mistake? A. No.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 50.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined One Month.
NEW COURT.—Thursday, June 15th, 1843.
Sixth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.
GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Two Months.
GUILTY . ** Aged 32.— Transported for Ten Years.
MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.
JOSEPH HOLDWAY . I am a constable at St. Katherine's Dock. About a quarter past four o'clock in the afternoon, of the 8th of May, I was going through Crosham-place, Little Prescot-street, Goodman's-fields—I saw the prisoners and another young man drawing a truck with something rolled up in a great coat—I said, "Halloo, what the deuce are you doing here with a track?" knowing there was no thoroughfare for a truck there—they made no answer, and the one who is not taken ran down a passage—I turned round to go and see what they had got, and Price ran down the passage following the other—I said to Clarke, what the deuce have you got here?—I lifted up the great coat, and found a bag of sugar, and he also ran away—I waited for some one to come to my assistance, and Baker came—he got an officer—we took the bag into the Docks—it weighed 1cwt. 24lbs.—the name of Thomas Dukeson was on the truck—I went to Dukeson's house the same evening—the next morning I went to the London Docks, and saw Benjamin—he came to St. Katherine's Dock—I showed him the bag of sugar—on the 9th I was fetched to the station at Bishopsgate-street, and saw Clarke—I said he was the last person that was with the truck—he made no observation, and was taken the next day before the Lord Mayor—about ten o'clock at night, on Monday the 15th, I saw Price taken in custody at St. Katharine's Dock-house—I said he was the person—I knew him perfectly well—he was the second person that left the truck—he did not make any observation—in going to the station Price said if he got over this he would make me pay for it—I have known him six or seven years—I have seen him repeatedly wear a coat similar to this—it is lined in a particular way.
Clarke. Q. When you came to the station, did I not say I was at work at Mr. Davis, the wine merchant, at the time? A. No.
WILLIAM BAKER . I am clerk in the St. Katherine's Docks. About a quarter past four o'clock on Monday, the 8th of May, I was going through Crosham-alley—when I got to the end I saw Holdway with the truck—two men had passed me going through the Court—I knew Price—he was one of them—I have not the least doubt about him—the other I cannot speak to.
PHŒBE DUKESON . I am the wife of Thomas Dukeson, and live in Dunning's-alley, Bishopsgate-street. I let out trucks—I have known Clarke six or seven years—about half-past three o'clock, on Monday afternoon, the 8th of May, he came, with another man, whom I know very well by sight, but I do not know his name—that man said, in Clarke's presence, "I want a truck,"—I said, "Very well, take that one," and pointed to one—I afterwards saw the policeman, and gave him some information—about five o'clock in the afternoon of the next day I saw Clarke again—he was a little the worse for liquor—he asked me what I meant, in a saucy manner—I said, "Respecting the truck and the bag of sugar that was stopped yesterday"—he said he had a 5l. note in his pocket, and he would see his character righted—he went away, and in a quarter of an hour he returned with Smith, the policeman, and said he wished to have his character righted—I told Smith what had passed, and then he took Clarke.
JOHN SMITH (City police-constable, No. 203.) About five o'clock on the afternoon of the 9th of May, Clarke came to me in Bishopsgate-street, and said Mrs. Dukeson wanted to take his character away, that she said he had some connexion with a bag of sugar and a truck—I said he had better go down with me—he did—I inquired of Mrs. Dukeson—she stated what took place the day before, and I took Clarke into custody—I fetched Holdway, and he identified Clarke immediately.
JOHN COX (police-constable H 173.) I received information, and looked after Price—I have known him five or six years—about nine o'clock, one Monday, about a fortnight ago, I was near the Mint, on Tower-hill, and saw Price pass with his head down, as though he did not want me to see him—I stepped forwards, and looked under his face, and said, "Dick, you are wanted, you must go along with me to the Dock-house"—he said, "Very well"—he went over to the Dock-house—Taylor sent for Holdway, and he said, "That is the man"—Price did not say anything—I have seen him frequently wear such a coat as this.
ROBERT THORP (police-constable H 155.) I have known Price ten years—he was in our division of police—he has left six or seven years—he has been a jobbing carman since, and for the last fourteen months I have seen him warning about the Black Horse, near the Mint every day—since the 8th of May I have not seen him about there—I missed him for Seven or eight days, till he was taken by Cox—I have seen him wearing this coat.
BENJAMIN BENJAMIN . I am houseing and delivering foreman at the London Docks. This bag of sugar is one of thirty that I delivered to William Morris, from two o'clock to half-past two, on the 8th of May—he is carman to Tringham, the sugar-baker—the numbers were from 121 to 150—No. 127 is the one that has been found.
WILLIAM MORRIS . I am a carman. I had charge of these thirty bags of sugar—I stopped at the Woolpack public-house to give my horses some water—I did not miss the bag when I came back, but I have since.
Clarke's Defence. On the 8th of May I was at work at Mr. Davis's, the wine-merchant, and again on Tuesday. I was told that Mrs. Dukeson he said that I had hired a truck from her on Monday; I went and asked her what she meant by stating I was along with the party; she, said a bag was stolen. I got the policeman, and went down.
Price's Defence. This coat is not mine.
WILLIAM HODGE . I am cellerman to Davis and Son, wine-merchants, in Bishopsgate-street. I have lived with them five years—on the day this affair occurred Clarke was at our house—I cannot positively speak to the time—he was there in the morning and in the afternoon.
(Price received a good character.)
CLARK— GUILTY . Aged 34.
PRICE— GUILTY . Aged 30.
Confined One Year.
1862. CHARLES KERCHEVALL and CHARLOTTE PHILLIPS were indicted for stealing, on the 9th of May, 2 shifts, value 2s.; 1 gown, 5s.; 7 shirts, 1l.; 3 towels, 1s. 6d.; 1 pillow-case, 6d.; and 3 pairs of stockings, 2s.; the goods of Francis Kirk.
SUSAN KIRK . I am the wife of Francis Kirk, and live in Bell street, Vincent-square, Westminster. Between five and six o'clock on the morning of the 10th of May, I was awoke—I got up, and looked into the wash-house, where I had left these articles safe between eleven and twelve—they were all gone—these are part of them—I had them to wash—I will swear to them—
the wash-house was latched—any one, by just opening the door, could get in, by getting over the garden wall—the foot-marks in the garden correspond with the shoes that were fitted to them.
MARY ANN MATTHEWS . I am the wife of John Matthews. On the morning of the 10th I was awoke by the dog barking—I got up and stood at the window some time—I saw the dog move, and went and found a bundle of wet things in the garden a short distance from the prosecutor's.
JOHN HUDSON (police-constable B 80.) About three o'clock on this morning I was in Bell-street, and saw the prisoners coming out of Garden-place at the back of Kirk's premises—Matthews called me, and said she had found a bundle of wet linen in the garden—I took it—she afterwards told me there was a second bundle—I took that—about twenty minutes before six o'clock I saw Phillips come and attempt to go up the garden—I went to take her, and she ran off—I took her—Kerchevall was waiting at a distance—he ran away—I told Butler, and he took him about six o'clock—I took Kerchevall's shoes to the back of the gardens, and there were distinct footmarks—I compared them with the shoes—they exactly correspond—I can swear they were exactly the same marks—I looked at the mark before I put the shoes in—they were very remarkable shoes, very much worn at the toes, and there were holes in the shoes and the mould exactly fitted—the prisoners came exactly from the spot where the property was found.
WILLIAM BUTLER (police-sergeant B 3.) I went with Hudson, and compared these shoes where the prisoner jumped over the wall to the garden—there there was soft mould there were distinct marks—both their shoes fitted exactly—they had holes in them, and the female's footmarks were a little distance off, as if she stood to take the things just by the side of the wall, where he came over from the washhouse—I am sure of that.
Kercherall's Defence. On the evening before I was taken I was locked out as I had been to a public-house; I and a young man were walking about all night; my shoes have not got holes in them.
NOT GUILTY .
MARY RICHARDS . I am kitchen-maid to Lord Egremont, of Hyde-parkterrace. On the morning of the 24th of May the prisoner brought the milk to the kitchen—I had a pair of boots in the shoe-room—I put them there at seven o'clock—I missed them soon after she left the house—these are them—the passed where they were.
FREDERICK NORMAN . I am in the employ of Norther and Bute, pawnbrokers. At half-past seven o'clock, on the 24th of May, the prisoner brought these boots, and pledged them in the name of Ann Warner, Calmell-buildings—I am quite sure of her.
GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined Three Months.
JOSEPH JOHN LEWIS . I am an inspector of the Thames police. On the 23rd of May, about six o'clock in the morning, I saw the prisoners in a boat under the bow of the Frankfort—directly they saw me, Weston began to throw out some rope, which I had seen him lower from the vessel—I took them, and put two of my men into a boat with the grappling irons, and they got the rope up exactly in the same spot, it was the same sized rope which I had seen
them throw overboard—I lost sight of them for a moment while they rounded the barge's stern—I am sure they are the men—I knew them before.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Where did this rope come from? A. From the Frankfort—Garrett was at the skulls—Weston was lowering the rope.
JOHN ELSTOB . I am mate of the Frankfort—William Robinson is the master. This rope is his property—I missed it from the vessel—I am quite confident it is the rope—I know it by the folds—I made it myself.
Cross-examined. Q. Where was it? A. Over the timber head—the end of it had been hanging over the side of the vessel—it is from six to seven fathoms long—I fastened it myself that night round the timber head.
(The prisoners received good characters.)
GARRETT*— GUILTY . Aged 40.— Confined Six Months.
WESTON— GUILTY . Aged 47.— Confined Four Months.
JOSEPH SIRED . I live with Frederick Nash, in Henry-street, Limehouse—he sells second-hand shoes. About ten o'clock, on the 22nd of May, I was in the back room—the shop window was broken—I ran out, and saw three boys running round the corner—I ran round the other way, and caught the prisoner—I am sure he was one of the three—he dropped the boots on my feet—I picked them up—they were my father's.
GEORGE PENNELL BUDD (police-constable K 263.) I was in Katherine-street, Limehouse-fields—I saw a crowd—I saw the prisoner trying to extricate himself—I took him—I produce a bundle which was found in a van opposite the place—it contains a pair of shoes and boots.
Prisoner's Defence. I did not drop them.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Four Days, and Whipped.
1866. HENRY HAYDEN PHILLIPS was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of May, 1 copper, value 15s.; 3 locks and boxes, 13s.; 6 handles, 1s.; and 4 finger-plates, 1s.; the goods of Edward Barnard; being fixed to a certain building; against the Statute, &c.—2nd COUNT, not stating them to be fixed.
Cross-examined by Mr. HORRY. Q. You are not certain about the locks! A. I know there were locks to the doors—I cannot say to these—I believe they were brass locks which were on the doors—as far as I know, these are the same—they appear the same—I think I went to the house about the 24th of May—it had been unoccupied three months.
JOHN BIDWELL MATTHEWS . I am a carpenter—at present I am clerk to the prosecutor's agent—in the beginning of May, about a fortnight before the prisoner was apprehended, I left the plates and the locks on the doors in the prosecutor's house—there are some marks of paint on the edge of the locks, which correspond with the doors—I have no doubt of these being the locks—I have examined the plates—the holes are made irregularly, and they correspond with the holes on the door—I cannot speak to the copper—I have not fitted it.
Cross-examined. Q. You have seen plenty of locks of the same description?
A. Yes—I tried this lock on the parlour door—there are many of the same sort, but I doubt whether any other lock would have fitted to exactly these other locks appear quite similar, but they would not have fitted on any other door but that on which they had been—the finger-plates are cast in a mould, and numbers are cast at once, but whoever puts on the plates makes the holes—they are not placed in a regular form—it is not very probable two men would have made the holes in the same place—I cannot tell the size of the copper—very often a number of coppers are made alike—I think it is a very great chance if two makers make them of the same size—the door was double-locked—when I went there I opened it with my key.
GEORGE MADDOCKS (police-constable G 40.) I produce this property—I saw the prisoner coming along Yardley-street, Wilmington-square, with this copper in a bag—I followed him down to Bowling-gardens—I stopped him, and asked what he had got there—he said a copper, which he bought of a man in Rosoman-street, who was moving—he came in a contrary direction from Rosoman-street—I told him to come with me and point the man out who had sold it—to let go the string of the bag, dropped the copper and the three locks in it, and ran away—I pursued, crying, "Stop thief"—two butchers stopped him in Rosoman-street—I took him to the station, and found on him five skeleton keys, one of which opened the door of No. 18, Henry-street—the finger-plates were in his coat pocket—I compared the copper with the house in Henry-street, and it fitted exactly.
Cross-examined. Q. It was on the 19th of May you met the prisoner? A. Yes, and on the 22nd I went to the house—this skeleton, key opened the door, and locked it again—the copper was beaten up—the tops of each side nearly met—I got a brazier to beat it out for me to try it.
GUILTY . Aged 38.— Transported for Seven Years.
SARAH SEEDMAN . I am the wife of Charles Frederick Seedman, and live in Honors-place, Thames-bank. The prisoner was employed by Mrs. Sadler, my landlady—about the 21st of May, I missed two saucepans and a tub—I had seen them safe on Saturday evening, and on Sunday morning I went with the officer to York-terrace, and found them—the big saucepan and the tub were on the second floor landing, where the prisoner lives—I spoke to her about them, and wished her to give them up—I said I did not wish to give her into custody—she said they were not mine—the large saucepan has a crack down the side, from a fall, and the tub is a large butter tub, sawed in half, and it is not even at the top.
Cross-examined by MR. M'MAHON. Q. How do you identify the other sauucepan? A. It is a little burnt at the bottom—the prisoner said she had bought them—I cannot tell when my attention was called to this saucepan being burnt—I saw the tub sawed—it is cracked at the top.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined Four Months.
(There was another indictment against the prisoner.)
—about half-past five o'clock in the afternoon pf the 23rd of May, I in Dean-street, Holborn—there was a stoppage—a great many persons standing prevented my going on—while standing there I put my hand down, and my handkerchief was gone—I looked round, and discovered the prisoner with it in his hand—on his seeing me he dropped it, and put his foot on it—I took hold of him, and a policeman being near, I gave him into custody—he said he found it, and could not help his foot being on it.
Prisoner's Defence. The cab-men were fighting; I staid ten minutes: there were three or four boys by the side of me and the prosecutor; he turned and said, "Have you got my handkerchief; "I said no: I looked round, and it was down by my feet.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 17.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Three Months.
1869. JOHN PIERCE was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of May, 1 looking-glass and frame, value 3s.; 1 pair of stockings, 3s.; 2 sheets, 1s.; 1 blanket, 9d.; and 1 gown, 6d.; the goods of Charlotte Griffin.
CHARLOTTE GRIFFIN . I am single, and live in New-way, Westminster About one o'clock on Tuesday morning, the 22nd of May, I met the prisoner—he asked if I had a room of my own—I said, "Yes"—he asked me to take him home—I did—he asked me to fetch a pot of beer, and while I gone he took these things, and he was gone—these are my things—I am an unfortunate woman—he gave me 4d. to get a pot of beer, and I could not get it.
Prisoner. She was gone an hour and a half. I took these things and went to look for her, to get my money back, and she to have the things.
GEORGE BANHAM (police-constable B 84.) At half-past one o'clock I stopped the prisoner in Great Chapel-street, about ten; minutes' walk from the prosecutrix's, with these things wrapped up in a gown, except a pair of sheets, which were wrapped round his body—he had no coat or hat on—the looking glass was in his pocket—I asked where he got them—he said he had a row with his wife, and took the blanket to go and lay down with a comrade—at the station he said, "I will tell you the truth; I have been home with a girl; I gave her the money to go for beer; she has done me, and I thought I would do her"—I found 7d. on him.
(David Worsfall, a serjeant in the 1st regiment of Guards, to which the prisoner belonged, gave him a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 43.— Transported for Seven Years.
THOMAS BENJAMIN BRIGGS . On the 10th of May, about half-past four o'clock, I left a cab at the stable-door—this hammer, wrench, and chisel, were in the boot—the policeman came to me afterwards—these two handles and figure are mine—they were safe at half-past four.
WILLIAM BURRIDGE (police-constable H 176.) I found these things in the prisoner's pocket, about half-past five o'clock on the 10th of May—he was in the prosecutor's cab—he pulled this figure out of his waistcoat pocket, and gave them me.
Prisoner' Defence. I was asleep in the cab. The policeman found these under the straw.
GUILTY . * Aged 22.— Confined Six Months.
ROBERT HEWITT . I live at Tamworth, in Yorkshire, in the hamlet of Wickham. At nine o'clock at night, on the 11th of May, I saw my gelding in a field along with two mares, nearly a mile from where I live—about seven next morning I received information, I went to the field, and missed the horse—on the 13th I went to Leicester—I could hear nothing there—I saw it again, with the policeman, at Brentford, on the 16th of June—I am sure it was the one I lost from Yorkshire.
WILLIAM CRESWELL . On the 12th of May I saw the horse, and on the 13th I met the prisoner—he said he had a horse to sell—I went to look at it—I said it was too small—he asked 6l. for it—I hired the horse of him, as my mare was lame—I gave him 10s. for the hire of it to take me to Staffordshire—I started on the 14th, and got to Leighton Buzzard—the persons thought they knew the horse, and I hod to bring it back.
JOHN HADDON (police-constable T 46.) I took the prisoner at Ealing. I heard he had been offering the horse for ten guineas, then for six, and then for four—on the road he said, "If I must tell the truth, I will; I stole it from Mr. Hewitt, of Tamworth"—I went down to Mr. Hewitt, and he owned it—I had traced it down to Leighton Buzzard, and there I got it from Creswell.
Prisoner's Defence. It was in a lane, with a halter, and another man was by it; he said, "Will you take this for me to Brentford, I will give you so much money?"—I said, "Yes"l—he said, "You must go up the tow-path all the way," and I did—he said he would meet me at Brentford on the Saturday morning—he said he had bought it.
GUILTY . Aged 28.— Transported for Ten Years.
1872. JAMES MASLIN was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of June, 3 tame ducks, price 7s.; the property of George Charlesworth; and GEORGE MASLIN , for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing them to have been stolen; against the Statute, &c.
RICHARD WIGGINS . I live at Hounslow. About six o'clock I saw James Maslin driving three ducks down a lane at the back of the prosecutor's house, in the direction of his own house—George Maslin is his father.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Are you quit sure it was James? A. Yes—I had known him about twelve months—he was about a quarter of a mile from the prosecutor's and about half a mile from his father's.
HUGH SANDILANDS (police-sergeant T 27.) On the 4th of June I received some information—I went to George's Maslin's house, and found these ducks in a pen by the side of the house, in the garden—I took James into custody—I asked him where he got the ducks—he said he bought them of a boy at Heston—George was present at the time—he said he had been to look after the boy that they bought them of but could not find him—George said James had bought them—he said the boy he bought them of lived in the neighbourhood of Heston, he did not know where.
NOT GUILTY .
1873. JAMES MASLIN was again indicted for stealing, on the 16th of May, 3 tame ducks, price 7s., the property of Frederick Lemon; and GEORGE MASLIN , for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing them to have been stolen: against the Statute, &c.
the 16th of May I lost three ducks—I saw them again, on the 3rd of June, at the horse-patrol station—two of them I could positively swear to—I saw James near my house the day before I lost them.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. How many have you here? A. Two that I positively swear to—I missed the last, about the 23rd of May, and the first about a fortnight before—I missed this one with the white feather the evening, on the 23rd, about five o'clock—I live in the Hanworth-road, about half a mile from the prisoner's.
HUGH SANDILANDS (police-sergeant T 27.) I found these two ducks the same pen which I found the others in, at the side of the prisoner's house—I asked James how he came by them—he said he bought them all of a boy named Tom, at Heston, within a fortnight—he said he had bought the whole within a fortnight—George said James brought them home, and said he bought them of this boy at Heston—I went to every one that keeps ducks at Heston, but I could not find anybody that had sold any to him.
JAMES MASLIN— GUILTY . Aged 13.— Confined Three Months, last Week Solitary.
GEORGE MASLIN GUILTY . Aged 40.— Confined Five Days.
1874. JAMES MASLIN was again indicted for stealing, on the 27th of May, 1 tame duck, price 2s., the property of James Batter; and GEORGE MASLIN , for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing it to have been stolen; against the Statute, &c.
JAMES BATTER . I am a labourer at Heston. On the 27th of May I lost a duck—I saw it safe at five o'clock in the morning, when it was turned out, and missed it about seven in the evening—I found it at the station—this is it.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. When did you see it again? A. On the 3rd of June.
HUGH SANDILANDS (police-sergeant T 27.) I went to search the prisoner's premises on the 4th of June—I met the prisoners together—I asked James how he came in possession of the black duck—he said he bought it within a fortnight, he could not say what day—George said James had told him he bought the ducks at Heston—he did not say any thing about when he brought them home.
Cross-examined. Q. Do you mean to swear he did not? A. To the best of my recollection—this is my signature—my depositions were read over to me—(read)—"The prisoner James Maslin said he had bought it a week or ten days ago, and the father said he brought it home about that time, and told him he had bought all the ducks of one boy."
NOT GUILTY .
WILLIAM DODYON . I am in the employ of William Goodburn, of Munyard-street, Regent's-park. On the 23rd of May, I saw the prisoner drawing the trowsers off a rail—she wrapped them up, put them under her shawl, and walked away—I went and found them under her shawl—they were my master's.
Prisoner. I had no shawl on; I was obliged to go into the shop, and the trowsers were on the ground as I was coming out. Witness. I am sure I saw her pull them through the railing; she had got four or five yards off.
JURY. Q. Was the prisoner on the foot pavement? A. She was—there
is an area in front, and the rails are at the side—she drew the trowsers through the rails, and then went on the paving.
Prisoner's Defence. I picked them up, and before I could rise he caught me, and said, "Come into the shop."
GUILTY . Aged 38.— Confined One Month.
THOMAS HENRY ABBOTT . I am in the employ of Martha Dash, a hatter, in Tottenham-court-road. About half-past eight o'clock at night, on the 27th of May, the policeman brought this hat to me—it had been safe at the door at eight o'clock—it is my employer's.
MICAIAH READ (police-constable E 30.) I saw the prisoner take a hat from the prosecutrix's door-post—he laid hold of it, and another lad drew a knife, and cut the string—the prisoner took it, and walked off with it—I stopped him, and said, "This is the way you get your bats, is it?"—he said, "Hats! I have not seen any hats"—he threw it down—I took it up.
Prisoner's Defence. I picked it up.
GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Three Months.
1877. JOHN BARNES was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of May, 2 tunning-hammers, value 2s.; 1 hammer, 1s.; 73 hoppers for a pianoforte, 7s.; 1 guage, 3s. 6d.; 1 bag, 6d.; 1 pair of plyers, 1s.; 1 file, 6d.; and 2 3/4lbs. weight of wire, 8s.; the goods of Charles Thomas Nicholas.
CHARLES THOMAS NICHOLAS . I am a pianoforte-maker, and live in Chadwell-street, Clerkenwell. On the 4th of May I had these tools safe, about seven o'clock at night—I missed them between ten and eleven next morning—I can speak to these hammers, and hoppers, and the other things correspond with what I lost.
WILLIAM HOOKER . I am a pianoforte-maker, and live in Old-street, St. Luke's. On the 6th of May the prisoner came and asked if I would buy some things belonging to a pianoforte—he said he had got some keys without the ivory—I said I did not buy anything without I saw it, and in half an hour he brought these things—he said they were left him for 15s., for rent, and he had bad them for six months—I asked what he wanted—he said 10s.—I offered 7s.—he said his wife was lying-in, and he wanted 8s.—he at last agreed to take 7s.
Prisoner. Q. When you were first brought to the station-house, what did you say? A. That I believed you to be the party—I am almost sure you are the man.
Prisoner. Q. Did you or your father buy these things? A. My father—I can swear to you by your features—I was in the shop with you some time when my father was not.
ROBERT COLE (police-constable G 133.) I took the prisoner on Saturday, the 20th of May—I told him it was for stealing some things belonging to a pianoforte—he said he had not—I searched the room, and found this bag on the cupboard door, and this hammer in the cupboard—he said they were not his, but they were brought by a young man—I asked if he knew the young man—he said he did not.
Prisoner's Defence. I am a cabinet-maker, and 1 at times employ boys; a boy bought these things, and this hammer, which is of no use to me. I had
plenty of tools, and the bag was of no use; when the policeman said they were stolen, I was quite unaware of it; I should not have left them about if I had been.
GUILTY . Aged 27.— Confined Four Months.
ROBERT M'KENZIE (police-constable B 44.) About four o'clock in the morning of the 22nd of May, I was in Sloane-street, Chelsea—I saw the prisoner go to Mr. Sherry's door, take a number off, and put it into his pocket—I went towards him—he ran towards me—I followed him to Knightsbridge, and took him—he had this number in his hand—he said he meant to have returned it when the family got up—I returned to the house and found the other number was undone on the other side.
Prisoner's Defence. I saw one of these numbers nearly off, I put my hand to it, and it came off into my hand; the policeman sprung his rattle, and sung out, "Stop thief;" I gave it him; they are only fixed on with needle-points; the sun had warped them off.
THOMAS WORTHINGTON . I live in Queen's-gardest, Brompton. I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction, which I got from Mr. Clark's office—(read)—the prisoner is the person—I was the prosecutor on that indictment.
GUILTY . Aged 51.— Confined Six Months.
Fifth Jury, before Edward Bullock, Esq.
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Two Months.
GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined Two Months.
GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined One Month.
JOHN HEBDITCH . I am a grocer, and live in Three Colt-street, Limehouse. The prisoner was in my service for a fortnight, the last week of which I repeatedly missed money—between eight and nine o'clock on Saturday morning I counted a bag of silver for a customer, and put it into a drawer in my bed-room—the drawer was locked, and at ten I missed 10s. from it—between eight and nine on Sunday night I had a sovereign safe in the same drawer, and I missed that between eight and nine on Monday morning—I then called
the prisoner and her fellow-servant up—I said what I had missed, and asked if they knew anything of the missing money—I asked for their keys—they each produced one key, and said that was the only key they had—I told them I should feel it necessary to search their boxes—I afterwards told the prisoner she had been so short a time in our service, I should like her to leave with a clean person, I should like her mistress to search her—she ran down stairs, and endeavoured to escape into the street—she got into the middle of the shop—I went after her, stopped her, and told her she had better submit if she were innocent, if not I should send for a policeman—after a deal of trouble she went back—I left her with Mrs. Hebditch and the other servant—Mrs. Hebditch afterwards gave me two keys—this is one of them—it unlocked the drawer in which I keep my cash-box, but it did not belong to me—this other key was given to me by my wife—this is my silk—it was found in the prisoner's box—I have no doubt it was cut from the bulk, which was in a drawer in the same chest as the money was kept.
Cross-examined by MR. CARTEEN. Q. Where did you see these pieces of silk found? A. They were thrown out by the prisoner from her box on to the floor—they were among the things—I did not say I found them in her box—I was present when they were found—I saw her boxes searched—my family consists of my wife, five children, two female servants, and two men—my wife had a written character with the prisoner—the key that the prisoner produced from her pocket is not here—this key was found in her box after the second search, after she had denied having more than one key—it is a common key—this is the key which opens the drawer where the money was—it is a very common key—when I spoke abont her being searched, I said Mrs. Hebditch was to search her—I have been examined before the Magistrate—these are my depositions—(looking at them)—there is not one word about her being searched by Mrs. Hebditch—I said, "You must submit to a personal search by your mistress"—I said, "You must submit to a personal search."
Q. Was it on your telling her she must submit to a personal search, that she ran down stairs? A. She did not get into the street—about an hour after I wrote to the inspector, wishing him to send for a policeman—that was after the prisoner's boxes were searched—I was there both times when her boxes were searched—I was there the first time—my wife and the other servant were present—the prisoner turned the things out—the box was in a back lumber-room—the servants did not keep their boxes in their bed-room—they both kept them in this lumber-room—it was open to every member of the family—some of my own property was there—this box was open—the prisoner did not make any objection to its being searched—she was in a great state of agitation—I said "If the box is to be searched, I will have it done properly, or I will send for a policeman"—I think the box belonging to the other servant was searched—the second search took place about half an hour after the first—I was not in the room when these pieces were found—I went to consult with a neighbour next door, and when I came in my wife said, "These pieces have been found in her box"—the prisoner was in the room adjoining—during that time my wife or the servant was with her—these silks were in a drawer in the same chest as the money—my wife bought them, and they have been under her care ever since—they have been bought several weeks—I have not handled them since—Mrs. Hebditch is near her confinement—she has been ill ever since this occurrence—it was quite impossible that she could attend the Police Court—the Magistrate did not require her attendance—it would have been attended with danger—I do not think she
has been out above once, she then went about a mile from my house—she rode there and back.
CAROLINE COLLINS . I am nursery-maid to the prosecutor. The prisoner came as housemaid about a fortnight before the 21st of May—on the 22nd of May, I and the prisoner were called up by my master and mistress about some money that had been lost—my master asked us for the key of out boxes—I gave him my key, and the prisoner gave him a key, and said it was all she had got—my mistress afterwards searched her boxes and mine—a key of the shop was found in her box—my mistress searched the prisoner—I was present at the time, and she found two more keys in her bosom—my mistress took one key and unlocked the cash-drawer—she said to the prisoner, "I think this will unlock my drawer"—I afterwards went and searched her box again—the prisoner was present then—I found all the things on the floor as the prisoner had thrown them out—that was directly after the first search—we went back, and I saw my mistress pick up these two pieces of silk off the floor—she said they were pieces of her dress—the prisoner said nothing—my mistress said if the prisoner had got the sovereign, she had better give it up at once—she said she could not give what she had not got.
Cross-examined. Q. The prisoner's box was searched on two occasions? A. Yes, my master was there on the first occasion—my box was searched after the prisoner's, and while it was being searched, the things out of the prisoner's box were lying about the room—I did not assist in taking the things out of the box—she took them out herself in presence of my master, and mistress, and me—I could see every thing that was taken out—my box was at one part of the room and the prisoner's at another—I took all the things out of my box while my mistress was standing by—nothing was found in the prisoner's box but the key—the silks and satin were not found in the box—when we had done searching both the boxes I went down stain to get the children's breakfast—the prisoner was up stairs—my mistress went down into the parlour, and my master was in the parlour too—the prisoner was left up stairs by herself for half an hour—when I went up again Mrs. Hebditch was up stairs, and the prisoner was there, and then we found the pieces of silk on the floor, wrapped up in a piece of silk belonging to the prisoner—I know it belonged to the prisoner, because it did not belong to my mistress—I had never seen her with it, nor seen it in the house before—I generally see what my mistress has got—I have the charge of the children's clothes and of my mistress's—I generally go to every drawer except the cash drawer, and I never remember seeing the piece that these were wrapped up in before—the prisoner was by when these pieces of silk were found—Iam not a judge of these articles—I should think this satin is worth 1s., and this silk worth 7d. or 8d.—this is not very uncommon in the texture—I do not know that females in my situation wear satin, they may wear satin scarfs.
COURT. Q. There were two searches of the boxes? A. Yes, the first was made when my master called us up—at the first search the things were taken out and left on the floor—I then went down—I then went up again—these things were then on the floor—the silks were never seen in her box.
HENRY WOOD (police-sergeant K 44.) I was called in, and had two keys handed to me—one of them opens a drawer in the bed-room—the other is of a door leading to the shop—I went up stairs, and tried this key to a drawer, in which there was cash, and it opened it freely—after I had seen the pieces of silk, I told the prisoner I must take her into custody, that she was charged by her master with stealing these pieces of silk, 10s., and a sovereign—she said, "Though I had a key which opened his drawer, I know nothing
about the money, only the bits of silk"—there were three pieces of silk in the drawer—I found this bit of green silk matches with this piece—it is cut in a zigzag way—this bit of black satin corresponds with a piece that was in the drawer.
Cross-examined. Q. How long have you been in the police? A. Ten years—these bits of silk were handed to me—I compared them with the pieces, and found they matched—one of them is cut in a crooked way, by which it matches with the piece on the roll—here is a bow on one piece, and a hollow on the other.
NOT GUILTY .
WILLIAM ROBERT CURRALL . I live in Hereford-street, Lisson-grove, my father, Joseph Currall, is a milkman. On the 26th of May I went down the area steps, about two o'clock in the day—I saw the prisoner on the second step, with my father's great coat on her arm—it had been on the kitchen-door—she had no business with it—I sung out "She has got my father's coat"—she dropped it in the passage, by the side of Mr. Vickers's door, and went up the steps into the street—I picked it up, and then I went after her—Giles stopped her—I am sure she is the person—this is it.
CHARLES SAMUEL GILES . I live in Hereford-street. I was at the stairs of No. 46, where Currall lives—I saw the prisoner—she dropped this coat in the passage—Currall and I ran after her—I stopped her—I said, "This is the woman who stole the coat"—she said, "No, I saw the coat, but I did not take it up."
Prisoner's Defence. I asked permission to go down stairs at the house—I saw the coat, but did not touch it.
GUILTY . Aged 40.— Confined Two Months.
1884. JAMES THOMAS was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of May, 1 purse, value 1s.; 3 shillings, and 1 groat; the property of Ellen Mary Stiles, from her person; and that he had been before convicted of felony.
ELLEN MART STILES . I am single, and live with my mother, in Gower-street, Bedford-square. On the afternoon of the 24th of May I went into the shop of Mr. Butt, a linen-draper, in Mortimer-street, about ten minutes after five o'clock—I went to the counter of the shop to make a purchase, and was looking at some ribbons—Mrs. Butt called out, and ran to the door—in consequence of what she said, I felt my pocket, and missed my purse, which contained from 3s. to 5s.—there was a fourpenny-piece in it—I know I had my purse about an hour before—it was a blue and drab netted purse—I have not seen it again.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Where were you standing? A. At the end of the counter, a good way from the door—I know I had my purse when I got out of an omnibus in Rathbone-place—I then went home, and had been walking up Oxford-street before I went to Mr. Butt's—I did not feel anything done to me—my attention was merely called by Mrs. Butt, who ran out of the shop immediately—I went to the door, and asked what was we matter—I did not miss my purse till I was told—it was three or four minutes before I found it was gone—I had not been in any other shop.
CAROLINE BUTT . I am the wife of Henry Butt, a linen-draper, in Mortimer-street. On the afternoon of the 24th of May I was in a room at the end of the shop—I could see into the shop—I saw Miss Stiles come into the shop
and come to the further end of the counter—I could see what took place at the counter where she was—I saw the prisoner and another man—the prisoner stood behind Miss Stiles, and I saw him lift up part of the skirt of her dress, put his hand into her pocket, and take out her purse—it appeared to be a long drab net purse—I ran out, took hold of him by the shoulder, and said, "This man has taken this lady's purse"—I saw it in his hand when I took hold of his shoulder—he got from me, and ran into the street—I did not take notice whether the other man went out—I followed the prisoner, and called out—a gentleman followed him, and he was brought back by a policeman in about ten minutes.
Cross-examined. Q. Had you ever seen him before? A. No—the room I was in is a continuation of the shop—there is no door to it—I was sitting very near to where the prisoner was standing—I should think five or six ladies were in the shop, standing at the counter—Miss Stiles was between the prisoner and me—he came behind, and lifted her dress, while she was looking at some ribbons—I did not hear him ask to be served with anything—Mr. Butt's mother was serving Miss Stiles, and Mr. Butt was serving higher up in the shop—the prisoner was nearly close to Miss Stiles when I took hold of him—I had not seen him before—he had not got off the pavement when I got out of the shop—I did not see him stopped.
JAMES NEWMAN (police-constable E 62.) I took the prisoner in Great Titchfield-street—he had been stopped by some gentleman—nine or ten persons were holding him, he was so resolute—he told me I had better let him go, as the lady would not press the charge against him—I found three shillings in his waistcoat pocket—I took him back to Mr. Butt's shop.
Cross-examined. Q. What time did you take him? A. About half-past five o'clock—I did not see any long drab purse.
GUILTY . Aged 24.— Transported for Ten Years.
RICHARD MAYES . My brother, Ambrose Mayes, keeps the King's Head, at Limehouse—I assist him. On the morning of the 25th of May the prisoner came and had a glass of fourpenny ale—she went away, and in a short time I missed the ale glass from the counter where she had been—at twenty minutes before three o'clock she came again for a glass of fourpenny ale—she sat down on a form—at three o'clock I saw her go out—I went and tapped her on the shoulder, and said I wanted her, for she had taken the glass—as she was coming back she took this ale glass out of her pocket, and put it on the form just inside the door—it is marked, and I know it is my brother's.
Prisoner. I was very much in liquor.
GUILTY. Aged 65.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Seven Days.
WILLIAM TAYLOR . I am a broker, and live in Turnmill-street, Clerken-well. On the 22nd of May the prisoner came into my shop, and asked if I had a pair of boots that would do for her—I said I had not—she laid hold of a pair of men's boots, put them under her arm, and made away with them—
I went to the door, but at I had two customers and was very I was not able to go after her—I believe she knew that I was ill—I saw her the next day it a pawnbroker's door, and gave her into custody—I asked her about the boots—she said she did not know anything about them, I might find them.
Prisoner. I have been in the habit of coming to your house and staying all day and getting tipsy—you did not see me take the boots—I firmly believe you have not lost them at all. Witness. You have never stopped all day at my house to my knowledge—it must have been with my lodgers, not with me.
Prisoner's Defence. I went to the prosecutor's shop, and asked to look at those boots; he took them down, and I said they did not suit me; he hung them up, and I never saw them any more.
NOT GUILTY .
JOHN STANBURY LEE . I am salesman to Thomas Vesper, a pawnbroker, in the Commercial-road. On the evening of the 30th of May I was standing outside the shop attending the sale of goods—the prisoner came up about seven o'clock with a child—she was looking at some goods, and I saw her take something from a pile of goods which were standing outside the door, which had been folded to be taken in doors—she took something from that, and placed it under the child's clothes, then put her other arm round the child, and went off—I went, found her up a court, and the child standing by her side—I had not lost sight of her—when I got to her she was rolling up this shawl and table-cloth—I said she must go back to the shop—she said, "Don't hurt me, I have no father"—I took her back to the shop—these are the articles.
Prisoner. I did not take them—I do not know whether the child took them or not—he wanted to get down—I put him down and took him up again. Witness. The child appeared to be three or four years old—I saw you take these things with your left hand, and put them under the child's clothes, and you took the child up with your right hand.
JAMES HAMS . I am a policeman. The prisoner was given into my custody—I asked her name—she said it was Clark—it was dark in the shop, but when I brought her out to the light I found she was a person I knew to be lane Callahan—she did not say any thing about these things.
Prisoner. I did not speak to him till I was at the station—my mother had a row with another woman, and that was the way he knew my name—I said if he knew my name better than I did he had better take it down—I was coming up from Poplar, and had my little brother in my hand.
(John Phillips, labourer of Whitechapel, gave the prisoner a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 14.— Transported for Seven Years.
NEW COURT.—Friday, June 16th, 1843.
Fifth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Three Months.
MESSRS. ELLIS and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
MART ANN EATON . I am the wife of Charles Eaton, a chandler, in Henry-street, Portland Town—in the afternoon of the 26th of May, the prisoner came to my shop for half an ounce of tobacco, and a pennyworth of cheese—he put a shilling on the counter—I said I did not like the look of it—he took up the change while I was looking at the shilling, and went away—I marked it, put it in paper, and gave it to my husband—next day the prisoner came again, and asked for a pennyworth of tobacco—he put down a penny—I knew he was the man, and told my husband.
Prisoner. She said she did not like the look of the shilling—I said I had another; she took another out of the till, and said the one I gave her would do. Witness. Yes, I did.
CHARLES EATON . On the 26th of May I was in my shop—my with served the prisoner with some tobacco—next night he came for a pennyworth of tobacco—he proposed to pay with a penny—I charged him with being the man that passed the bad shilling—he said he would give one for it—I said "I want nothing but justice"—he made a rush to go out—he was stopped and brought back, and given into custody—I gave the policeman the same shilling.
Prisoner. He was paying the men outside the door, on the Friday when I went. Witness. I was not.
MARY OGDEN . I am a widow, living in Frederick-street East, about 100 yards from Henry-street, Portland Town. About three o'clock on Friday, the 26th of May, the prisoner came for a pint of beer—he paid 2d. for it—he sat down and drank part of it—he asked for another pint—I served him—he offered a shilling—I gave him change, and put the shilling into a cup in the till—there was no other silver there but fourpenny pieces—I gave it to Manning in about five minutes, to get some tobacco—she returned, and said it was bad—I wrapped up the shilling she brought back in a piece of paper, and put it into the till by itself—I am confident the prisoner is the person—I took it out of the cup a second time, marked it, and gave it to Mrs. Dowland.
Prisoner. She never saw me in the house. Witness. Yes, after drinking the first pint of beer, he asked me to drink, and I would not.
LAURENCE LEONARD (police-sergeant S 25.) I received this shilling from Dowland—I searched the prisoner, and found on him 2s. 10d. in silver, good money, and 10d. in copper—I also got this shilling from Mr. Eaton.
Prisoner's Defence. I went to Barnet, and got a job; the gentleman gave me half-a-crown; I went for tobacco and cheese, and gave the shilling, not knowing it was bad.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Months.
1890. LOUISA SAWYER was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of May, 1 pair of earrings, value 15s.; 1 seal, 10s.; 1 night-cap, 3s.; 1 pair of drawers, 6s.; 1 collar, 5s.; 1 waistband, 2s.; 1 box, 1s.; and 1 paper case, 1s.; the goods of Elizabeth Maddison: and 1 brooch, value 3l.; 1 ring, 10s. 5 napkins, 5s.; 10 keys, 5s.; 1 hat-band, 1l.; 1 night-gown, 10s.; 1 shift, 5s.; 1 night-cap, 3s.; 2 collars, 5s.; 5 pairs of gloves, 2s. 6d.; 1 pair of stockings, 2s.; 2 yards of lace, 5s.; 1 petticoat, 10s.; and 2 printed books, 2s.; the goods of Frederick Patey, her master; to which she pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Five Days.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
ALEXANDER MURRAY . I live in the Crescent, Clapham. About twelve o'clock on the 30th of May, I hired a hackney-cab near St. Martin's Church, Trafalgar-square, to take me to Camden-town—the prisoner drove—he put me down near the York and Albany—when I got into the cab I had ten 5l. Bank of England notes in my trowser's pocket, and my purse was in the same pocket—I had received the notes in a bundle at Coutts', the bankers—when I got to Camden-town I got out, and about a quarter of an hour after I missed the bundle of notes—my impression is that in drawing out the purse to pay the cab, I jerked out the notes.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. I believe you are a clergyman? A. Yes—the prisoner set me down at the York and Albany, and from thence I walked to my residence.
Cross-examined. Q. Were you examined before the Magistrate? A. Yes—these entries in the book are mine—I paid them to the prosecutor himself—I know him.
JAMES ROLFE . I live in Princes-street, Pimlico—I know the prisoner. About two o'clock on the 80th of May, a person I was working for, said to me, "James, can you get change for these two 5l. notes?"—he got them from the prisoner—I went to the White Horse, and got ten sovereigns—I brought them back, and gave them to the prisoner—he gave me 6d. for my trouble, and went away.
JAMES MANGER . I gave the change to Rolfe, and got the notes—I paid them both away—one to Mr. Curtis, of York-street, and the other to Mr. Ray, of Brewer's-green, Westminster, for silver—I put the name of Downes on them, and my initials—Downes was the person Rolfe spoke of—it was about two o'clock on the 30th of May.
Cross-examined. Q. Do you recollect Rolfe coming? A. Yes, and I put the name on them directly, knowing he worked for Downes.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 32.—Recommended to mercy .— Confined Nine Months.
MARY CHARLOTTE PEARSON . I live in Austin-street, by the side of Shoreditch church—I knew the prisoner for about two years and a half. On the 21st of June, 1842, he married me by banns, at Hackney church—he represented himself as a single man—I was a widow, with two children, and kept a shop for second-hand clothes—I was worth about 30l.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. I believe it is not your wish to have him punished? A. No, I only wished to be relieved from this marriage—I have visited him in Newgate—he was a currier, but he was very seldom
employed—before he married me he lodged at my house—he got into debt—he got some loans from some society, and has been so involved as not to be able to meet them—he married me in the name of Thomas George Waite—I did not know his name was Gardiner.
MART ANN THOMPSON . I live in Cirencester-place, Fitzroy-square. The prisoner married my sister in 1833, or 1834, I do not know which, at Higham church, Norfolk—I was present—I have not seen my sister lately—I had a letter from her last week—this is it—I can swear it is her writing.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you ever see her write? A. Yes—I am married, and live with my husband—he is at present in Lancashire—I saw my sister three years ago last March, when I was visiting Norwich.
WILLIAM BROOM CROSS (police-constable G 217.) I took the prisoner, and told him it was for intermarrying with Pearson—he said he should not have done so if his first wife had not proved a w----, and his second wife knew of the marriage at the time—I produce a certificate of the marriage at Higham—I examined it with the parish books, and the second certificate from Hackney.
GUILTY . Aged 31.— Confined Six Months.
JAMES JONES . I live in Bow-street, Covent garden. The prisoner was my errand-boy—on the 25th of May, in consequence of suspicions, I desired my son and shopman to watch, and about eight o'clock that evening I was sent for—I desired the prisoner to pull the brass out of his pocket—he denied having it—he then pulled it out—it is my brass, and is worth 3s.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. He could not have got 3s. for them? A. No—he said he hoped I should not give him in charge, it would do me no good, and him a great deal of harm.
THOMAS JARMAN . On the 25th of May I watched the prisoner in a small room which joins the metal room—he came up with some things, and laid them down—he took up several things, and put them into his pocket—he then opened the shop door, and went out, down Bow-street—I went and said Mr. Jones wanted to speak to him—he said, "What does he want?"—I brought him back—Mr. Jones was sent for, and told him to pull the things out of his pocket—he said he had none, and then pulled them out.
Cross-examined. Q. Did not he say he did not know what induced him to do it? A. He did—his wages were 6s. a week.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Four Months.
MARGARET HIGGINS . I am a widow, and live in King's Head-court, Broadway, Westminster. About half-past four o'clock, on the 9th of June, I was in my room, and went to sleep—I had two petticoats hanging on a line—I awoke about eight, and they were gone—the door was on the latch—this is one of my petticoats.
DAVID HIGGINS . I was with my mother—I saw the prisoner take two shirts off a line in my mother's room—I did not see any petticoats—I took the two shirts out of her hand, and as she went down the stairs I saw strings hanging from her gown, like the strings of my mother's petticoats.
—she asked me if I would buy this thing—I did not open it—I asked her what it was—she said, a skirt—I gave her 6d. for it, which was all she asked.
Prisoner. The prosecutrix ought to be where I am; she brought me to it through liquor; she has made me rob ray own place when she has been in liquor.
MARGARATE HIGGINS re-examined. I have known her for years, by seeing her about the street, but she was no companion of mine—she has never been in my place before, to my knowledge—I have never been to her place.
Prisoner's Defence. I cannot say whether she gave it me or not, as I was in liquor.
GUILTY . Aged 60.— Confined One Year.
JOSEPH LIDWELT EYTHER . I am a merchant, living in Abchurch-lane. The Mount Stewart Elphinston belongs to me—the prisoner shipped as steward on board, and had signed articles to sail in that capacity—I think the ship sailed on Wednesday, the 24th of May—she left Woolwich on the 25th—I had sent twelve large spoons, twelve desert spoons, and twelve forks on board—these produced are of the same pattern, and have the same crest on them—it is not my crest—I believe them to be part of what I sent.
Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Do you know of any being missed? A. I have the captain's letter here to say they were missed, that is the only means I have of knowing it—I do not supply spoons of the same kind to every vessel that belongs to me—there is only one other spoon that had this motto on it, "Non Crux, sed Lux"—the captain bought these spoons in India—the prisoner ought to have been on board the ship.
THOMAS JONES CAMDEN . I am assistant to Mrs. Vesper, a pawnbroker, of Sydney-place, Commercial-road. I produce these spoons and forks—the prisoner offered them, on the 24th of May, for 30s.—he came after hours—I asked whose spoons they were—he said they were his own, that he bought two of them in London, and two of them he had had made in Malta—I said that could not be, because two of them were made in Scotland, end had the Scotch hall-mark on them—I asked him whose crest it was—he said it was his own—I asked the English of the motto—he said, "Adams," and I sent for a constable.
WILLIAM ROMAYNE (police-constable Q 32.) I took the prisoner, and asked him where he lived—he said at No. 42, Tarling-street—I went there, but could not find such a number—he then referred me to Mrs. Adams, of Theobald's-road—he said she was his wife—I went there, and found nothing.
WILLIAM JUDGE (inspector of Thames police.) On the 24th of May I went on board the Mount Stewart Elphinston, and saw the prisoner—I asked if he was steward of the vessel—he said, "Yes"—I said he was accused of robbing the captain of the last ship—he opened his box, and I saw twenty spoons and twenty forks, similar to these, which he said belonged to the captain—we searched, and could not find the things belonging to the other captain—he had a very small quantity of sea things—I left the ship at six o'clock in the evening, and afterwards heard that he was stopped in the Commercial-road.
Cross-examined. Q. Did he not tell you he had signed a paper for the captain? A. No.
JAMES CHRISTOPHER EVANS . I went to the prisoner in the cell, and asked if he belonged to the Mount Stewart Elphinston, he said, yes, he was steward—I asked him if he was charged with stealing plate—he said, "Yes"—I said, "Was it the ship's plate?"—he said, "Yes"—I said, "What was you doing? selling or pledging it?"—he said, "No, I brought it on shore to ascertain the value; I gave the captain a receipt for it, and I brought it on shore that I might not be overcharged for it."
(The prisoner received a good character,)
GUILTY . Aged 40.— Confined Six Months.
MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.
THOMAS GEORGE ROE (Thames police-constable, No. 55.) On Saturday morning, the 20th of May, I was walking by Lambeth stairs—I saw a boat containing two men, row from the Lambeth side towards the Westminster shore—there was a barge, called the Julia, lying at Millbank—the boat rowed to the inside quarters of a sloop—the Julia was along inside the sloop—I saw one of the men get out of the bed on the barge, and remain a few minutes—he get into the boat again, and rowed a short distance from the barge—they went back a second time—one of them got into the barge, and handed something to the man in the boat—they then rowed over to Lambeth shore, to when I was standing—the prisoner took off his coat—I had known him before—I am sure he was the person—they then rowed to Duke's Head, Lambeth.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Are you sure you know the person of the prisoner? A. Yes—it was about half-past four o'clock in the morning—it was broad daylight—I swear he is the man.
MR. BALLANTINE. Q. Did you see them go to another barge? A. Yes I saw them along side another barge by the Duke's Head, and saw the prisoner handing staves out of the boat to a man in that barge, and that man was stowing them away—after they left the second barge I saw them throw over a number of staves.
HENRY LUTON . I am an inspector of the Thames police. I saw some staves afloat on the river, and picked up twelve of them—I went on board the Julia—it was laden with staves similar to those I picked up.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you miss any from the galley? A. Thirty-four—I have two partners.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined One Year.
GUILTY . Aged 29.— Confined One Year.
1898. ROBERT HENRY WALSH was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of April, 1 table cover, value 1l. 2s. 6d.; and 54 yards of a certain cloth called tabaret, 8l. 12s.; also, on the 8th of April, 1 table cover, 1l. 2s. 6d., and 1 dressing-case and fittings, 18s.; the goods of Thomas Charles Druce and mother, his masters; to which he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 28.— Confined Nine Months.
1899. JAMES BONUS was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of May, 1l. screw bolts, value 2s. 9d.; 1 pattern, 3s.; 2ozs. weight of gun metal, 1s.; 1 gas burner, 6d.; and 1 bracket, 2s.; the goods of John Wordsworth Robson.
JOHN WORDSWORTH ROBSON . I am a patent water-closet maker, and live in Ann's-place, Limehouse. The prisoner was in my service—I missed a quantity of brass work, some screw bolts, and gas burner—these are them—they are worth 2s. 4d. a pound—here is more than one pound—I afterwards found them among some old brass, which was sold to me by a marine store-dealer.
Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Whom did you boy them off A. Mr. Baldwin—they were originally manufactured at my establishment—I ordered a quantity of metal at Baldwin's, and he sent it home—I had before directed him to take notice what metal he bought, and who he bought it of—I know these are mine, because they are made for a specific purpose, for putting together a patent article—this screw is different from any other—the top is different—it was cast on my premises in a mould to my pattern—this mark is done in the vice—I have no particular mark on it—no one makes these articles but myself—I soldered this myself—solder is an uncommon thing in articles of this description—I have no mark on these other things—the prisoner was in my employ six or seven months.
COURT. Q. Did you see him searched in the evening? A. I did—the articles found on him are not in this indictment.
Cross-examined. Q. When did you receive them? A. On the 20th of May—I received them from her hands—I swear to that—she brought things at different times, sometimes 20lbs., sometime less—she brought me 5 1/2 lbs. at this time—it was all pieces of new brass—some was not Mr. Robson's—all that he recognises was taken out of the 5 1/2lbs.—I had no other new metal.
MARTHA SANDS . I am ten years old, and live with my parents, in Richard-street. The prisoner brought this metal to me—I gave him 4d. a lb. for it—I took it to Mr. Baldwin's, and he gave me 5 1/2 d. a lb,—it is worth 4d. a lb.—I bought these myself as my mother was ill.
Cross-examined. Q. Does your father keep a shop of this kind? A. No, my mother does—my father goes out to work—the prisoner had been there two or three times—I am quite sure he is the person—the metal weighed 5 1/2 lbs.—I had bought it of several different persons—I cannot tell how many—some of these I bought of the prisoner—I cannot point to any one thing that I bought of him—it was all brass that I sold.
COURT. Q. Look at these screws and bolts, and the gas burner, do you know whom you bought it of? A. No; I bought this one article of the prisoner—there is nothing else that I can recollect—I bought some of these bolts of him.
Cross-examined. Q. Are you quite sure you bought this of him? A. Yes, because I remember looking at it.
GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Six Months.
(There was another indictment against the prisoner.)
JOHN HAYNES . I keep the Thistle and Crown public-house, in St. Martin's-lane—the prisoner was my servant. In consequence of suspicion, about six in the evening of the 29th of June, I went and found the prisoner down stairs—I asked what he was doing there—he said, "Nothing"—I told him he might go up stairs—I searched round the place, and found in the saw-dust place a bottle of gin—I went up to him and said, "These are the tricks you have been up to, are they?"—he said he knew nothing about it—I sent for a policeman, who went down and found another bottle of gin in the saw-dust tub, another in the copper-hole, and another behind the tub where the prisoner scours the pots—the prisoner said, "For God's sake, forgive me, I will tell the truth"—I said, "I cannot think of forgiving you.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. Are you quite sure you did not say, "You had better tell the truth, and it was of no use to deny it?" A. I might have said so.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you hear his master say it was no use to deny it, he had better tell the truth? A. I heard something of that kind said, but I was searching round the cellar.
NOT GUILTY .
JOHN HAYWARD . I am in the employ of Timothy Maber, a wine-merchant at Islington. The prisoner was formerly in his service—about nine o'clock, on the 5th of June, I went into the back-yard and saw the prisoner in the act of taking these bottles off the premises in a crate—I let him go outside—I followed—he ran away when I called stop thief; but was stopped—this is my master's crate.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. You told him to bring them back? A. Yes, I asked what he was going to do? he said he was not going to take them away—I never said that he said he was going to take, them away—I desired him to take them in again—he did so, and put them down in the yard—I knew he lived at Bagnige Wells.
Cross-examined. Q. Was he running in a direction towards Btgnige Wells-road? A. Yes.
MR. HORRY called
MARY ALLANSON . My husband is employed at a warehouse. I live in Wild-street—I have known the prisoner ever since he was ten years old—when he is a little excited he would not know what he was about—when he was very young his father struck him on the head.
SARAH SHUDMAN . My husband is a carman, and lives at Kennington. The prisoner is my brother—his head is very bad; he frequently complains that he is out of his mind, and fancies he is mad—when he has taken a drop of strong liquor he is half frantic, and does not know what he is doing.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 31.— Confined Three Months.
1092. WILLIAM SMITH, MICHAEL RILEY , and THOMAS RILEY , were indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of June, 56lbs. weight of coals, value 6d. the goods of William Samuel Hinton and others, in a barge on the navigable river Thames.
JOHN PRUCE . I am foreman to William Samuel Hinton and Sons. On the 3rd of June they had a barge called the Atkinson lying at Coles-stairs, shadwell—I left her at half-past four o'clock, on Friday afternoon, with fifteen tons of coals in her—I went next morning, and missed one coal that I knew—the officer showed me a bag of coals at the Thames Police-office—I did not compare them with those in the barge—I do not speak to their identity.
HENRY JOSEPH KING (Thames police-constable. No. 30.) On the 3rd of June I saw the prisoners row alongside a barge of coals with a ballast-boat—Michael Riley leaned over and took several lumps of coals from the head of the Atkinson barge, and put them in the boat—they then rowed to a ballast-lighter, No. 27, and put the coals on board—we rowed towards them, went down into the lighter, and found a quantity of coals broken up—the prisoners were at work on board the lighter, which was getting under weigh—they said they took them to make a fire to boil their pots.
NOT GUILTY .
JAMES LEE . I live in Dudley-street, Paddington. About twelve o'clock at night of the 3rd of June I was in the Harrow-road, leaning against the pilings, dozing, as I was tired—I had 7s. and a few halfpence in my pocket—the prisoner came up and stood by me—I took no notice of him—he put his hand into my pocket, and I felt it coming out—a person on the opposite side told me if I had any money in my pocket that person had taken it—I felt, and missed my money—the prisoner was just leaving me—I followed him, and called out "Police, take this man in charge; that is the man who robbed at, and he should not have robbed me, a poor hard working man"—he said, "I did not take it, another man gave it me"—I did not see any other man.
PATRICK CONNOLLY (police-sergeant D 6.) About twelve o'clock that night I was in the Harrow-road—I saw the prisoner running—just at I came up to him his hand went down, and I heard some money jink—I took him, and picked up 1s. and two halfpence—a person who came up picked up 2s., and gave them to me—the prisoner said, "It is only a lark, let me go"—I said, "I shall keep you till the person comes up who is calling 'Stop thief"—the prosecutor came, and said, "That is the man, keep him"—I searched the prisoner, but found nothing on him.
Prisoner's Defence. I had not been able to work for some weeks; some men knew it, and gave me 3s.; and had some halfpence; before I heard the cry of "Stop thief" there was a mob running, and I ran too.
GUILTY . * Aged 22.— Transported for Ten Years.
Sixth Jury, before Bullock, Esq.
1904. MOSES ROBINSON was indicted for stealing, on the 4th of May, 3 trunks, value 14s. 6d.; 4 boxes, 12s.; 1 hamper, 6d.; 4 yards of Orleans cloth, 10s.; 5 petticoats, 7s. 6d.; 5 yards of linen cloth, 7s.; 3 yards of lawn, 4s.; 15 handkerchiefs, 9s. 6d.; 9 spoon, 6s.; 1 pair of sugar-tongs, 4s. 6d.; 1 pocket-book, 2s.; 3 sheets, 9s.; 1 table-cloth, 12s.; 4 pillow-cases, 12s.; 5 glass-cloths, 2s.; 2 towels, 1s.; 4 pairs of trowsers, 11s. 6d.; 2 waistcoats, 10s.; 5 shirts, 15s.; 1 dressing-gown, 5s.; 2 pairs of stays, 5s.; 2 bed-gowns, 3s.; 4 shifts, 12s.; 5 aprons, 6s.; 6 yards of nankeen,9s.; 1 pair of top-boots, 5s.; 2 bonnets, 2s.; 4 yards of carpet, 7s. 6d.; 1 tippet, 15s.; 1 boa, 2s.; 1 mantle, 3s.; 1 ladle, 3s. 6d.; 5 bracelets, 10s. 6d.; 3 brooches, 3s.; 4 ear-rings, 6s. 6d.; 1 breast-pin, 5s.; 9 gowns, 2l. 2s.; 8 caps, 8s.; 3 habit-shirts, 6s.; 4 collars, 8s.; 10 pairs of stockings, 8s. 6d.; 1 cap-front, 2s.; 1 pistol, 2s.; 1 bed, 2l.; 4 pillows, 1l.; 2 bolsters, 14s.; 1 blanket, 5s.; 1 quilt, 7s.; 1 sampler, framed and glazed, 10s.; 3 yards of baize, 5s.; 3 jars, 4s. 6d.; 6 gallons of pickles, 18s.; 1 tub, 3d.; 71bs. weight of mustard, 5s.; 11 planes, 1l. 2s.; 3 chisels, 1s.; 1 sword and sheath, 2s. 6d.; 7 quarts of gin, 16s.; 6 quarts of peppermint, 15s.; 6 quarts of cloves, 15s.; 6 quarts of shrub, 15s.; 6 quarts of brandy, 1l. 3s.; 6 quarts of bitters, 15s.; and 6 bottles, 14s.; the goods of William Jauncey.
MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the Prosecution.
WILLIAM JAUNCEY . I keep the Marquis of Granby, at Ratcliffe-cross. I have known the prisoner three or four months, by his coming to the house—about May I had some expectation of letting my house—the person was to take possession on the 8th of May—on the 24th of April I hired a room of the prisoner, at 4s. 6d. a-week, in Caroline-place, Commercial-road—he told me he had been out of employ some time, and I told him to take my goods to the room at his leisure—after the 24th I removed two feather-beds, six boxes and hampers—in a hair trunk was a piece of New Orleans cloth, some gowns, and other apparel, some linen, and a pair of sugar-tongs—I have an investory of what it contained—the person did not take my house, and I determind to bring my things back—I told the prisoner I wanted these things—he said, "I will go and speak to my wife; the people in the house are religious people, and Sunday is not a fit day to get them back"—next morning, the 15th of May, I went myself, and found all the things gone, and the prisoner absconded—I could gain no intelligence of him—these boxes did not nearly occupy the room—I told him to make use of the room if it was of any service to him—he came and offered me a key—I said I did not want it—I received imformation, and found the prisoner's wife at Stratford-marsh, at her mother's—I went to No. 1, Alfred-street, Stepney, on the 19th of May—I went into the room with a policeman, and found nearly the whole of my property—I have got nearly the whole, except a bed, which had been pawned, and a few other things—on the 25th of May I found the prisoner nearly opposite the Thames Police-office—he told the officer he had pawned the bed—he did not say anything to me.
Cross-examined by MR. WILKINS. Q. Did not he say, "I pawned the bed for want, in consequence of Mr. Jauncey not giving me the money?" A. He did, to the best of my recollection—he did not say so to me—he did to the policeman—my house is still for sale or to let—I wanted to get rid of it, because I want a little country air—I have been in Whitecross-street twelve years ago—I was not contemplating a second visit there—I have some relations who have retired from business—I have no relations in the neighborhood of the Marquis of Granby, because the neighbourhood is a disgrace
to me, and would be them—I have friend named Wynne, a timber-merchant—he lives about a mile and a-half from me—I do not keep a horse cart, and did not before the 8th of May—nor sincce I have been in and London—Mr. Wynne has plenty of room on his premises—the prisoner was only a casual acquaintance—Mr. Wynne is my intimate friend, and a man of high respectability—I did not deposit my things there because I did not wish to remove a mile away—I expected to leave my house, and to go to my father at the Red Lion at Waltham-heath.
Q. Let me look at the inventory you made; is it not usual for the incoming tenant to take gin and cloves and bitters? A. Yes; but I have a right to take some things for my own use—the prisoner was at my house daily—it was on Monday, the 24th, that I first spoke to him about taking these things—I spoke to him on Saturday night, the 22nd—I did not tell him I wanted him to get my things away as fast as he could, as I was afraid they would he seized upon—I do not owe 5s. in the world—I did not say, if the things were not removed, the brewers over the way would seize them—I owe them nothing—I generally have my things from Richmond—if I owe them anything I can pay them—I took the benefit of the act twelve years ago—I paid 225l. into Court—my debts were 350l., or something of that sort—I will not swear they were not 600l.—I cannot tell whether they were 700l. or 800l., or 1000l.—I did not go to the prisoners house on a Sunday morning—I have not bean out of my house of a Sunday morning since I have been in the house—I might go out to fetch the milk—I never was out with the prisoner in my life on Sunday morning—about a fortnight was occupied in removing the things from my house—I have no recollection of any rum being taken from my house—I cannot swear there was not—there were not twenty gallons taken off my premises—there was none taken in a horse and cart—no rum was taken from my house to a cart standing at a distance from it—I will swear to that—no rum was taken off my premises to raise ready money—the prisoner did not come on one occasion to tell me he had ascertained that some of any creditors were watching him taking things off my premises—I have only there creditors—he did not come to tell me that, in removing, one of the bottler of brandy that had been concealed in the bed it had been broken—I did not tell him that the parties were coming on me for 2l. a-week for taxes and gas, for the time I had been there—there was no claim—I have never paid the prisoner anything for these things—I told him to come to me, but he never came.
Q. When did you discover that the things had been removed? A. On the 15th—he did not come and tell me he was starving, and I did not say, "If you want it you may raise it by pawning the things"—I asked if he Wanted money I would give it him, but he said he had got some work just then—I did not tell him I would take good care my creditors should not serve me as they did Beckett—I have heard such a man lived there, but I did not see him—I took the house of Booth—I did not afterwards ask the prisoner to remove a tool-chest and a sofa—he did not tell me he had consulted a friend, who advised him to assist me no more in my villany—he did not ask me for money—I did not say, "You are no smuggler if you can't make some"—I met him one day as I was going with my wife to the Thames-tunnel, and gave him a pint of ale—my wife did not say in my hearing, that she would come and fetch some things she wanted out of a box in church time, as persons would not notice her—church was over—I did not afterwards meet the prisoner in New Gravel-lane, and he did not ask me why I did not come to Alfred-place—I did not say I could not find the place—he came one Sunday night,' and went away a little after eleven—he did not tell me he must go in the
morning and look after work, he could not wait on me any longer—he did not say he wanted a few shillings—when he told the policeman that he pawned the bed through want, I said, "If you had asked me for money, I would have given it you"—he never asked me for money—I offered it him and he said no—it was Mr. Webb's house in which I deposited the things—the prisoner lived in the room—it was his bed-room—I did not take any things there myself—they were taken at different times of the day, as it suited his purpose—some by day-light, and in the middle of the day—the beds were taken about the evening part—the prisoner was not in work when I spoke to him about removing them—I do not know what his trade is—I might have removed these things to Mr. Jones, in the Walworth-road, about two miles from my house, or to Mr. Docter's, a builder, at Brixton—I do not associate with the tradesmen in my neighbourhood—a few of them get their beer from me—the last things were removed on the 4th of May—I do not know what they were—the prisoner took them away—I have only one man-servant, who cleans the pots and waits on the customers.
MR. PRENDERGAST. Q. Was there any thing in the removal of these goods at all secret? A. Not at all—there was no selection of the dark for sending them away—he took them away at his own leisure—I am sure I took the room as mine, and I was to pay rent for it—it was not above 100 yards from my bouse—I had no design to conceal anything from my crediton—I paid everybody when I left Richmood.
MART ANN BRIGGS . On Friday, the 4th of May, the prisoner took one up stairs room of me, at Alfred-place, Stepney—he and his wife came together—he brought a bed in the evening—at six next morning some more things came—he afterwards told me he was going to Gravesend for a fortnight to get work, and took a bed away—the prosecutor afterwards came to me with the policeman—he went up and opened the door of the room where these things were—the prisoner and another man had brought all the goods there—the key of the room wae taken away by the prisoner's wife.
EDWARD WOODROW (police-constable K 377.) On the 18th of May I went to Stratford Marsh with Mr. Jauncey—I there got a key from a female—I went with that key to the room in Alfred-street—Mr. Jauncey selected the whole of his goods there—the prisoner was taken on the 27th of May—he said, "I pawned the bed, I did it for want, because Mr. Jauncey would not give me any money"—I took the goods away—he said, "I expect Mr. Jauncey or you will have to bring them back again, because Mr. Jauncey gave them to me."
Cross-examine. Q. When he said he did it for want, because Jauncey would not give him any money, did Jauncey say anything? A. I did not hear him.
NOT GUILTY .
MR. PRENDERGAST offered no evidence.
NOT GUILTY .
1906. THOMAS JOHNSON and MARIA ALLPORT were indicted for stealing, on the 15th of April, 1 pillow, value 6d.; 2 spoons, 11s.; 1 table-cloth, 2s.; 1 blanket, 3s.; 1 ale-glass, 6d.; 1 set of fire-irons, 5s.; and 4 sheets, 2s.; the goods of Elizabeth Beard.—2nd COUNT, stating them to be the goods of Elizabeth Bailey.—3rd COUNT, stating them to be the goods of our Lady the Queen.
sentence of transportation—I live in Gifford-street, Hoxton. The prisoner Allport came to my house to look at a room for Mr. Johnson—I showed' her a room—she said it was for a gentleman who had come off a journey, and he was come and look at it—she left, and returned in the evening with Johnson—they left together, and came again next day together—Allport brought a carpet bag, which was taken into the room—Johnson took possesion of the room—Allport fetched some ale, and then left Johnson there—he said that night—Allport came again in the morning—she assisted as servant to him—Johnson said she had nursed him in a fit of illness, and he allowed her to come and do for him—he remained at our house till last May—Allport came in the morning, and was in and out during the day—I missed a table-cloth and some spoons about two months after he came—I asked Allport if she knew anything of the spoons, she denied it—on Tuesday, the 9th of May, I gave Allport into custody—I went to the station with her, and returned to my house with-the policeman—I missed the feathers out of the bed, two blankets, a sheet, two pillows, a bolster, fire-irons, and other things, which were my husband's, and had been left in my custody—these are the things which I let to Johnson with the room—this table-cloth and spoons—they were part of my husband's property—in the evening Johnson came, I told him Mrs. Allport was out—he asked how that was—I told him if he would step in I would tell him—I told him she was in custody, she had taken the silver spoons from my apartment and pawned them—he seemed astonished, and said he knew nothing about it—I told him my room was stripped of all the things—he said Mrs. Allport did it in his absence—I told him the feathers were all gone out of the bed—he said they were all made into pillows, and they were all safe, Mrs. Allport had done it, and they would be returned again; what could be done in it?—I said it was in the hands of the officer—I gave him into custody.
Cross-examined by MR. ROBINSON. Q. I belive Johnson had been in bad health? A. He said so—I could not suppose he was in good circumstances—they never left the room both together—Johnson only went out once a day, generally about the middle of the day, and returned between five and six o'clock—he has paid his rent very regularly since I gave him notice to leave—he had got an inventory of the things, and he told me that when be left I should see every thing in its place—he said, when he was apprehended, he never intended the things should be lost, as he had got them out over and over again, and he had made arrangements to get them out—I am not anxious to press this case.
JAMES WOOD (police-constable N 277.) On Tuesday afternoon, the 9th of May, the prosecutrix gave Allport into custody—she said she knew nothing of the robbery—she wanted to go up stairs and change her dress—I said I must go with her—when she got up there was no dress there—she then wanted to go backwards—I would not let her—I took her, and then went back and found a duplicate of a spoon, and one of a sheet—one was between the bed and mattress—in the evening Johnson came back—the prosecutrix told him Allport was in custody—he seemed quite astonished—she told him the room was completely stripped—he said, "God bless me, you don't say so?"—she said, "Yes, I do, and more than that, all the feathers are gone out of the bed"—he was astonished—he could not sleep on the bedding and not know it-he then said he knew they were gone; they were made into pillows and pledged, but she should have them all again; he hoped she would not go on with it; it was all Allport's doings, and the would be the ruin of him—I found fifty-four duplicates on him, twenty-two relating to this property.
at Hoxton. I produce a sheet, a pillow, a bolster, a blanket, two spoons, fire-irons, pawned at our shop by Allport—these are my master's tickets.
Cross-examined. Q. I believe Allport has been in the habit of pawning and redeeming things? A. Yes, over and over again—we give them fresh tickets every time—they are in the name of Johnson—I never saw him-our shop is about 300 yards from the prosecutrix's.
JOHNSON— GUILTY . Aged 45.
ALLPORT— GUILTY . Aged 39.
( The record of Beard's conviction not being pat in, judgment in this case has been arrested.)
SOLOMON AARON . I am a pawnbroker, and live in Great Charlotte-street Blackfriar's road. About half-past three o'clock, on the 3rd of June, the prisoner drove up to my shop in a cab—he came in, and said he wanted some clothes—he had just come home from sea, that he had been two years and a half on a voyage to China—he selected a hat, a coat, waistcoat, and trowsers, two shirts, and a pair of boots; they came to 3l. 13s. 6d.—he said if I could send any body down with him to the East India Docks gates he would see the skipps and pay for them—I called the cabman, and asked if he knew anything of him—he said he agreed to take him down to the West India Docks, to get his money, and take him home—my lad went with him—he returned at half-past nine, and said the prisoner was in custody—he bad given him the ship at the dock gate—he did not bring me any money, nor the things—the prisoner had the boots on bis feet.
Prisoner. Q. When I came did you remark that I had been driking! A. No—I charged you a reasonable price for the clothes—I do not recollect telling you you might keep the boots—you said you would keep them on—part of this paper is in my handwriting, and part is not—it is an invoice of the goods—it is not a receipt.
JOHN GEORGS MANSER . I am assistant to the prosecutor. I was sent by him with the prisoner, and some clothes—the boots were on the prisoner's feet—I was to receive the money at the Dock gates—we got into a cab and rode off to the Borough—we stopped and he wanted to put the coat on—he put it on—he then wanted to put the hat on—we then went to Billingagate, and he inquired for a man who could not be found—we went on to the West India Docks—he got out, and said he should return in ten minutes—he did not return—I did not see him again till he was in custody—I had the trowsers and shirt.
Prisoner. Q. Did I take the things, or did you give them me out of the bundle? A. I gave them to you.
WILLIAM MASON . I drive a cab, and live in Union-street, Somers Town I drove the prisoner to the prosecutor's—Manser then got in with him, and I drove them to Billingsgate—the prisoner got out at the West India Docks, about half-past five o'clock—Manser had a bundle with him—I saw the prisoner get out with the coat, hat, and boots on—he said, "Cabman, I will be with you in ten minutes I am going to get my luggage"—he went into the office at the West India Docks gates, and went right up the Docks—the gates shut at six, and he did not return—I went to the other gate, and he had been gone half an hour—I gave notice to the policeman.
Prisoner. Q. Was I in any way intoxicated? A. Very trifling indeeed—you had a glass of ale at Mr. Aaron's.
WILLIAM PEATLING (police-constable K 264.) Mason gave me information—I went and found the prisoner in a privy in a back yard, at Mill-wall, Poplar, with this coat, hat, and boots on—I asked him what induced him to leave the cabman and the boy—he made no answer—he was very much intoxicated—I asked the name of his ship—he refused to tell me—at the station he told me he belonged to the Stork East Indiaman which had been out two years and a half—I went and inquired, and there had been no such vessel for the last twelve months.
Prisoner's Defence. It was my intention to pay; I had shipped to go on board another ship, but I got intoxicated and did not know where I was going to.
(Property produced and sworn to)
GUILTY . Aged 42.— Confined Two Months.
1908. ANN BURNETT was indicted for feloniously leading away, and detaining Ann Sophia Dingley, on the 5th of June, with intent to deprive the parents, Charles and Ann Dingley, of the person of the said child. 2nd. Count, with intent to steal 1 frock, value 1s. 6d.; 1 pinafore, 6d.; 1 petticoat, 1s.; 1 shift, 6d.; 1 pair of boots, 1s. 6d.; and 1 pair of socks, 4d.; the goods of Charles Dingley, from the person of Ann Sophia Dingley.
THOMAS LANGAN . I am a coach trimmer, living in Marylebone-court, weymouth-street. About twenty minutes past two o'clock, on Monday, the 5th of Jane, I was standing at the corner of Grotto-passage, away from the rain—the prisoner came into the passage—this child was standing there alone—the child had no bonnet on—there were other persons at the other end of the passage—the prisoner asked the child where she lived—the child pointed towards her home—I heard the prisoner afterwards say, "Will you go with your father and mother, or with me?"—the child did not answer—she then took the child's left hand, and led her down Paradise-street, into a baker's shop—they came out again, and the child had a little loaf in her hand, and the prisoner had hold of the child—I followed them down South-street into a marine-store shop, in Marylebone-lane, and while there a policeman came in, and I told him—the prisoner came out of the marine store shop, and went into the pawnbroker's—she came out again and went into the marine-store dealer's again—she had the child's hand all the time, and when she came out of the marine-store shop the child had an old green bonnet on.
Prisoner. Q. Did you not see me ask the child what kept it there in the rain? A. I did not.
JOHN GRIFFITHS (police-constable D 146.) On the 5th of June. Langan pointed the prisoner out to me—she came out of the marine-store shop—this child had hold of her hand—she went into the pawnbroker's shop, came out again, went into the marine-store shop again—the child had no bonnet on when it went into the shop—when it came out it bad one on—the prisoner crossed the street—I went and asked if the child belonged to her—she said, "Why?"—I said I merely wanted to know—she hesitated a little, and said, "No, it is not mine"—I said, "What are you going to do with it?"—she said, "To take it home"—I said, "Do you know its home?"—she said, "Yes, in a court just by"—she then went on to a court—I saw the did not go into a house—I went to the child, and said, "Is this the court you live in?"—she said, "No"—she went on some distance—I saw she made no inquiries, and I took her to the station—I do not think she was intoxicated.
Prisoner. Q. You said I was going to steal the child. A. No, I did
not—you did not say you were going to take it home if you could find it—you said you were not married.
ANN DINGLEY . I am the wife of Charles Dingley, of Grotto-passage. This child is mine—her name is Ann Sophia Dipgley—she is six years old—I did not see her go out—my house is about fourteen steps from Grotto-court.
Prisoner's Defence. I met this child; it was pouring with rain; I said, "Where do you live?"—she said she did not know; it was my birthday; I had been out with some friends, and had taken a little drink; I asked where she lived; she said she did not know; I took her by the hand, and asked persons if they knew her; I went into this shop, and saw this little bonnet; I bought it for 9d.; and as I came out the policeman asked me if it was mine; I said, "No;" he said, "You are going to steal the child;"I said, no, I was going to take her home; I was going to take her to the station.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 35.— Confined Nine Months.
JOSEPH CLARK . I am a grocer, and live in Green-street, Edgewne-road On the night of the 5th of June I had been to the City—I took ao omnibus at the end of Queen-street—I had a blue bag, containing 3lbs. of tea, and on umbrella in my hand—when I got out I saw a soldier lying on the steps of a door—I went past him a little way up Queen-street, and laid down the bag and umbrella, to assist the soldier up—the prisoner walked down to me, and looked us in the face—I asked him to be so kind as to give me my bag and umbrella, which were on the step—he took them up, and ran off with then—I ran after him—he turned into Newnham-street—I did not lose sight of him—he dropped them at the corner of Newnham-street—I followed, and took him—he said it was not him—I am quite certain it was him—another man picked up the umbrella and bag, and brought them to me—these are them.
Cross-examined by MR. HORRY. Q. How long after you got this man to your shop did the policeman come? A. Not half a minute—he was just on the spot—it was rather a dull night—it had been raining—the soldier was not able to stand alone—I was holding the soldier all the time—it was twelve o'clock—I do not know who the man was that brought back the bag and umbrella.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 36.— Confined One Month.
1910. JAMES WHITE was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of May, 4 locks, value 2s.; 1 bell-pull, 6d.; 1 pair of curtain bands, 1s.; 5 spoons, 1s.; 1 coffee-mill, 1s.; 1 bell, 1s.; 1 poker, 1s.; 1 pair of tongs, 1s.; 1 shovel, 1s.; 1 cork-screw, 6d.; 1 coal-scuttle, 4s.; 1 coal-scoop, 6d.; 1 pair of snuffers, 1s.; and part of a fender, 4s.; the goods of George Baker and another, his masters.
GEORGE BAKER . I am an ironmonger, in partnership with my son, in Tottenham-court-road; the prisoner was in my employ for two yeara. On Wednesday morning, the 24th of May, I missed a hearth-broom—he did not come to his work the following morning—I found he lodged in a room in
Newman-mews—I went there, and found part of a fender, five albata spoons, land some other things—they are mine.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Do you not know that he left you to do a job by contract, for Mr. Williams? A. I am sure he did not, he did not leave me till eight o'clock—I saw this part of my fender in my ware-room, on the Saturday—I believe the things were removed at different times—I have an apprentice named Fame—he sells things—I never fonnd that he sold, and did not account for the money—he ran away and went to sea—he was a very bad boy, but I do not think he was dishonest—he was with me two years.
ROBERT LESTER . I am a police-sergeant. I went with the prosecutor to the prisoner's lodgings in Newman-mews, Castle-street, and there found two trunks—one was locked—I broke it open, and in it was three locks, a pair of bell pulls, and curtain bands—I found this part of a fender in the room.
ELIZABETH WHITE . I am the wife of John White—the prisoner is related to me—I occupy two rooms in Newman's-mews, Castle-street—he occupies one room there—I was present when the policeman and prosecutor came there—I saw them find these things in the prisoner's room.
Cross-examined. Q. How long had he lodged with you? A. About two months—I have known him seven years—on the 25th of May I heard him say he was going to hang some bells for Mr. Williams.
JOHN JAMES ALLEN . I am a police-constable. I apprehended the prisoner on the 30th of May at Maidstone—I told him it was for robbing Mr. Baker, in Tottenham-court-road—he said he was very glad of it, he was very unhappy, but there were other persons as well as himself ought to be punished.
GUILTY. Aged 29.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Four Months.
NEW COURT.—Saturday, June 11th, 1843.
Sixth Jury, before Mr. Recorder.
1911. ANN GAMBELL was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of May, 4 pain of boots, value 1l. 1s.; the goods of Mary Jameson: also, on the 5th of June, 2 pails, value 1s., the goods of John Kent; to which she pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 15.— Confined Six Months.
GUILTY . Aged 32.— Confined Three Months.
1913. JANE BROWNJOHN was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of April, 4 shawls, value 15s., and 1 handkerchief, 2s.; the goods of Richard Brownjohn; and that she had been before convicted of felony; to which she pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 23.— Transported for Seven Years.
JOHN WILKINSON SIMPSON . I reside in Chubb-street, Tottenham-court-road. On the llth of June I was in Broad-street, Bloomsbury—I saw my handkerchief in the act of being taken out of my pocket, by the prisoner Tracey, who was abreast of me, on my right-hand side—he gave it to Murphy, who was behind me—he was in the act of putting it up his coat—I collared him—he dropped it, and said he was going to pick it un for me—Tracey was
stopped by a man in the street, a few paces further on—he had walked forward, the same as he had walked alongside of me prior to that.
Tracey. Q. Did you see me take it? A. I did not see you take it out of my pocket—I saw you convey it to Murphy.
Tracey's Defence. I saw Murphy pick up something; I went on as far as George-street, and a man laid hold of me.
Murphy's Defence. I saw the handkerchief chucked down on the ground; I went to pick it up; a cab-driver said it belonged to this gentleman, and the gentleman laid hold of me; two men saw me pick it up, but they an not here.
TRACEY— GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Six Months.
MURPHY— GUILTY . * Aged 18.— Confined One Year.
GEORGE OSBORN (police-constable K 129.) I met the prisoner on the night of the 25th of May in Robert-street, Limehouse, about half-past nine o'clock—she was drawing this piece of iron, weighing 72lbs., on the ground with this piece of cloth round it—I spoke to her, and she said she found it is Robert-street—she said, "You won't be so cruel as to take an old woman like me; I have had nothing to eat to-day, you did not see me steal it, you can neither hang me nor transport me for it."
JAMES FINLEY . I am apprentice to James Barclay—his premises are about half a minute's walk from Robert-street. This is his iron—it had been an area—the prisoner could have gone in and shoved it through—the railings an five feet high—it exactly corresponds with the bar it was cut off.
Prisoner. I saw this iron standing by a brick wall—I merely stooped down to see what it was, and the officer took me.
GEORGE OSBORN re-examined. I saw her move six or seven yards, and she had got her hands behind her drawing it by this rag, which is her own apron—she was about 300 yards from the prosecutor's—I did not see any mark on the ground where she had drawn this.
GUILTY . Aged 45.— Confined Two Months.
LUKE MARROW . I live in Cecil-street, Strand. The prisoner was my porter or errand-boy for about six years—in consequence of one of my customer, Mr. Bone, of York-street, Covent-garden, calling on me, I desired the prisoner to walk into the counting-house—Mr. Bone charged him with robbery—I had been employed to fold and stitch catalogues for Mr. Bone—the prisoner gave me some information.
Cross-examined by MR. HUDDLESTON. Q. Did you not say something to the prisoner before he said any thing about the catalogues? A. I did not—I did not say I would not hurt him if he would tell a