CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT
THIRD SESSION, HELD JANUARY 4, 1836.
MINUTES OF EVIDENCE,
Taken in Short-hand,
BY HENRY BUCKLER.
GEORGE HEBERT, CHEAPSIDE.
W. TYLER, PRINTER, BOLT COURT, FLEET STREET.
On the King's Commission of the Peace,
OYER AND TERMINER, AND GAOL DELIVERY,
The City Of London,
AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE
COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND THE PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION
CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.
Before the Right Honourable WILLIAM TAYLOR COPELAND, LORD MAYOR of the City of London; Sir John Gurney, Knt., one of the Barons of His Majesty's Court of Exchequer; Sir J.T. Coleridge, Knt., one of the Justices of His Majesty's Court of King's Bench; John Atkins, Esq.; Anthony Brown, Esq.; Sir John Key, Bart.; Sir Peter Laurie, Knt.; Aldermen of the said City of London; the Honourable Charles Ewan Law, Recorder of the said City; Thomas Kelly, Esq.; Samuel Wilson, Esq.; Sir Chapman Marshall, Knt.; Thomas Johnson, Esq.; John Pirie, Esq.; James White, Esq.; and John Humphrey, Esq.; Aldermen of the said City of London; John Mirehouse, Esq.; Common sergeant of the said City; and William St. Julien Arabin, Sergeant at Law; His Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.
LIST OF JURORS.
CENTRAL, CRIMINAL COURT.
COPELAND, MAYOR. THIRD SESSION.
A star (*) denotes that the prisoner has been previously in custody—An obelisk (†), that the prisoner is known to be the associate of bad characters.
Third Jury, before Mr. Baron Gurney.
307. MARY DIXON was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Martha Langbridge about the hour of seven in the night of the 25th of December, at the hamlet of Mile-End New Town, Middlesex, with intent to steal, and feloniously and burglariously stealing therein 1 clock, value 20s.; 2 sheets, value 5s.; 1 flannel shirt, value 4s.; and 1 napkin, value 6d., her property.
MARTHA LANGBRIDGE . I am single, and carry on the business of mangling—I live in the hamlet of Mile-End New Town—I have known the prisoner a little time—she lived opposite me—I occupy two rooms in the house, and the third room was occupied by Mrs. Mallet—the landlord does not live in the house—on Christmas-day, I saw the prisoner in the course of the day she went up stairs to Mrs. Mallet, and she asked me to mangle her a pair of sheets about six o'clock in the evening—I said, "Do you want them particularly to-night? I will do them in the morning the first thing"—she said she must have them to put on the bed, but they were hardly dry enough, and she would go home and finish them—I left my room between six and seven o'clock—I locked my door, and took the key with me—I left nobody in the house at all—I was absent ten minutes or a quarter of an hour—I have one room on the ground-floor, and one upstairs—I had left the lower room when I went out—when I returned, on coming up the garden, I thought I saw more light in the first floor room than I had left there—I had left a rushlight—I unlocked the street-door—I went in, and said, "Who's there?"—the prisoner called out, and said, "It is me: I thought you were asleep"—she was up-stairs with a candle in her hand—I went up stairs to her, and said, "What do you do here?"—I found her in my room, and saw my drawers wide open—the door was wide open—I said to her, "What have you been to my drawer for?"—she daid it was not her—she turned round, and I saw the vallance of the bed had been lifted up, and saw a pair of sheets, a flannel waistcoat, and a napkin, which had been taken from my drawer—I took them up, and brought them drawn stairs—I said to her, "What do these do here? you have taken them out of my drawer"—she did no, she had not touched them—I brought them down stairs, laid them on the mangle, opened the door, and called my son, who was next door but one—he came in—I said in her presence, "George, I have been robbed"—he went for an officer—I am sure I had left these things safe in my drawer before.
Prisoner. Q. Did you not ask me to sit down with you for full a quarter of an hour you went up stairs? A. I did not—I did not go up stairs leaving you down.
COURT. Q. How long had she left the house before you went out? A. Ten minutes or a quarter of an hour.
Prisoner. I had an opportunity of going away when she called her son. Witness. She would have got, but I locked the door before I went up stairs to see who was there—at the time I found her in the room I had locked the outer door.
MARY THARBY . The prosecutrix's son was at my place, and in the evening I went in there, as she called out that she had been robbed—the prisoner was in the kitchen—I asked who she had been robbed by—the said, "That woman"—I turned my head round, and saw the window had been broken open—I picked up the pieces of wood which fastened it, off the floor—a gimblet laid on the table—that is the window of the kitchen, leading to the garden—she had broken the window to get the stick away—it slides back—she could then get in.
MARTHA LANGBRIDGE re-examined. When I the room the window of the ground floor room was whole—when I turned round afterwards, I saw it broken, and the stick lying down with which I kept it fastened—by breaking a pane of glass, a hand could be put in, the gimblet taken out of the window, and the stick taken out, it could then be opened, and she could get in.
Prisoner. Q. Were not the window shutters fastened? A. There were shutters to the window—it appeared to me that she had opened the window-shutters with a knife—the ground room floor door was never about—I never kept it shot—nor the up-stairs room.
Prisoner's Defence. I have a good character from situations I have lived in for years.
(Abraham Davis, wholesale glass-dealer, gave the prisoner a good character.)
GUILTY — DEATH . Aged 35.—Recommended to mercy by the prosecutrix and Jury, on accout of her character.
LONDON AND MIDDLESEX LARCENIES, &c.
OLD COURT.—Monday. January 7th, 1836.
First Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.
308. JAMES SLODDEN was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of June, 681lbs. weight of annatto, value 74l.; 2 iron pots, value 3s.; 2 iron bars, value 2s.; 1 sieve, value 1s.; and 1 knife, value 6d.; the good of Richard Jackson Fullwood and others, his masters, to which he pleaded
GUILTY.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Three Months.
ANN GREEN . I am the wife of Robert Green, who keeps the Duke of Cumberland public-house at the corner of Bryanston-street, and Cumberland-street, Oxford-road. On the 11th of December, about six o'clock in the evening, the prisoner came in with a male friend—they walked into the parlour—I followed them—the prisoner asked his friend what he would take to drink—he did not give a decided answer, and the prisoner called for a glass of gin and water himself, saying, that was always the way he treated people who did not give a decided answer—he called for pen and ink—two woman and a child came in, and they also ordered a glass of gin and water—I took it in with the pen and ink—the woman paid, but the prisoner did not—his friend went out, and in a few minutes the woman went away—I went and looked round the room—the pictures were all safe then, and the prisoner appeared to be asleep, with his head reclining on the table—a third man came in, and joined him, and in two or three minutes the prisoner got up and went out—I said, "You have not paid for your gin and water"—he said "No, I shall return in a minute"—I went into the parlour then, and the pictures were there—the third man sat at the table—the prisoner returned in a minute with 6d in his hand—he paid me and walked into the parlour, rang the bell, and called for another glass of gin and water, and change for a shilling, which I took him—he said he felt rather dirty and uncomfortable; he bad been travelling in his own buggy about sixty miles that day—he asked in what direction Park-lane was—I told him—his friends came back, and were in and out several times—the prisoner came out, and ordered a third glass of gin and water, and put 6d. on the bar door—I sent my potboy in with that glass—I am certain the pictures were all safe when I was last in the room—at last the three men all came out together—I went into the room, and the pictures were gone—the prisoner, on coming out, came in front of the bar, and said to me, "Pray, in what street does Mr. Russell Harris live?"—I told him—I suspected something was wrong, and put my hand on the bar door—at that time the other two were going out—I missed the picturess the moment they were gone—I ran out, and took the prisoner at the corner of Cumberland-street, about forty yards off—he seemed agitated—I said, "You have stolen my pictures"—I called a policeman—he burst from me, and ran away and fell down—he was then taken and brought into the house—he then said to me, "Mrs. Green, what do you want, is it me or your pictures?"—I said, "The pictures"—he said, "I am not given into custody yet, and if you will allow any two men to go with me, I will pay the men their expenses, and you shall have your pictures returned" if I would not give him into custody—I had nobody to go, and my friends advised me to give him into custody—I have never found my pictures, nor heard any thing of them—I am quite sure he ran away and fell down.
Prisoner. I said, "If you will allow two men to go with me and a policeman, I will pay all expenses, if I can overtake the men, "as I knew which road they were going, they having told me they were going to the Horse-Guards barracks—I did not know where they lived—I had not seen one of them for two years—when I came out of the bar I called you out of the back parlour. Witness. I have no back parlour—I was not sitting any where, I was standing—you did not appear agitated when at the bar.
Q. I believe you bad to go out of the bar into the passage, and then into another passage? A. No; you are mistaken about the house altogether—I
can touch the bar door at the parlour door, they are so close together—you were not standing still when I overtook you, but walking—your friends ran away, but you did not run till I came up—I could see you from my door—when I took hold of you, you said, "What! What!" and was greatly agitated—your companions had no cloak or apron, under which they could conceal the pictures that I saw—were in gilt frames 14 inches by 16—neither of the other men were tall enough to reach them down—you were in the room about a quarter of an hour—there was nobody else in the room heart the woman, who appeared very respectable—they had nurse with them—my bar is close to the street-door—nobody could go out on the offside without my observing them—nobody has been to the house to inquire for my potboy—the waiter was not in the room when you came out—I swear the pictures were in the room when you were there, and when you left they were gone—you said at the office, you were certain your two friends would not allow you to be in such a situation as you had done them many benefits, and merely came in to write a note for 5s. for them.
RICHARD BELTON . I live directly opposite Mrs. Green's, with my father, who is a fruiterer. I was standing in the shop between six and seven o'clock, and hearing a cry of "Stop theif," or "Police," I ran outside the door—seeing seven or eight people up Upper Bryanstone-street, I ran up there, and found Mrs. Green holding the prisoner by the collar, and a young man by the side of him—I went up close to him, and followed them into Green's parlour—after the door being shut, and the prisoner regaining his breath, he said, if Mrs. Green would allow me or the young man who assisted in taking him, to go along with him, he would produce the pictures—he said, "Do you wish me to go to prison, or wish to have your pictures back?"—those were his precise words—he appeared very much agitated when I first saw him, in fact, it was five minutes after he was in the room, before he spoke—Mrs. Green said, "I want my pictures"—I advised her to wait for a policeman—she refused to allow us to go with him—I said, "He had better be taken to the station-house"—he made no observations about that.
Prisoner. Q. It was on the contingency of my overtaking the man that I should produce the pictures—are you sure you have repeated my exact words? A. How is it possible to use the exact words—I am almost positive your words were, "I will produce the pictures"—you might have said find—you said nothing about overtaking the man—he did not say he would endeavour to produce them—he said, three or four times over, if we would go with him, he would produce them—when the policeman came in, he asked to speak to him and Mrs. Green privately, and I left.
CHARLES MAYNARD . I am a policeman. I was called in on the 11th of December—Mrs. Green said the prisoner had stolen two paintings—he said he wished to speak to Mrs. Green and me—the other people then went out of the parlour—he asked Mrs. Green if she wanted her paintings—she said, "Yes"—he said, "Then I will pay the expenses, or if you will allow me to go along with the policeman, I will get the paintings "—he said two men were with him, whom he had got out of one difficulty already, to-day, and he did not think they would have served him in that manner—I asked him who the two men were who were with him—he said "If I am to be given into custody, I shall say no more"—I took him to the station-house.
Prisoner. Q. Did I appear to have been drinking? A. I think he
had been drinking a little—he was not so drunk as not to know what he was about—he had all his faculties about him.
Prisoner's Defence. Gentleman, the policeman would impress your minds with the idea that I refused to tell where the two men lived—my object in refusing to answer further was, because I was not in a fit state to explain myself, so that what I said, might not be open to future prejudice—it is evident I acted with propriety, for what I did saw about following the men, has been explained differently by all the witness—I had really been serving those men, by giving one money, and writing a memorial for the other, and treating them—one of them I had not seen for four years, and he was then butler to the Duke of Wellington—I know no more of taking the pictures than you do—if these men took them, it must have been while I was asleep—I asked for two men to go with me with a view to overtake them, if possible, in order to clear myself—one of the witness says, I made use of the very words, but when I asked him if he was certain of my exact words—he said, "How is it possible for people to be exact?" if so, is it not likely that one word being added, might make a material alternation—they have all forgotten the word "endeavour"—if they had stated that, it would have removed any unfavourable impression—it is true I ran, and was much agitated, but Mrs. Green did not charge me with it—she said, "Where are your two friends? they have taken my pictures"—I said, "Indeed I know nothing about it, but I think I can overtake them"—she then called "Police," and I did run, trying to escape—situated as I was, being some hundreds of miles from home (as I came from Jersey) it is not surprising that I should try to escape—it is to be remembered, the most eminent characters the world have known, both in ancient and modern history, have been susceptible of fear without guilt—had I been aware of what the men had done, I could have run three or four times the distance I was from the house when she overtake me, and is it likely I should hold a conversation with her at the bar, had I known what had been done? when two men were passing with two pictures, fourteen inches by sixteen inches, and remember they had nothing to cover them; it would appear that I had attracted her to the spot where she must have seen them go out—if I had been aware they had been taken, is it likely I should call for an extra glass of gin and water, and detain the waiter while I gave him some halfpence?—the fact is, I had met one of these men, who asked me to draw up a memorial for him, to a member of His Majesty's government—I went to sleep, leaving the memorial on the table before me—when I awoke it was gone, and he said he had taken it—it is possible that the three females had better means of hiding these pictures than the men, for they had nothing to cover them with—I cannot be responsible for the actions of others while I was asleep, and it appears the men went in and out during that time—the room was very full of pictures.
MRS. GREEN re-examined. These hung on each side the fire-place, and I should miss them in a moment if they were gone—when I missed them I went out, and about forty yards off came up with the prisoner, and accused him of stealing them—I did not accuse his friends—I said, "You have stolen my pictures "—he was agitated, and said, "What! What!" and ran away—he then fell, and was secured.
GUILTY .* Aged 40.— Transported for Seven Years.
SAMUEL LLOYD . On the 7th of December, I was going to Mr. George's who keeps a cheesemonger's shop, in Chandos-street, and saw the prisoner take the piece of bacon, and put it under his coat—I collared him, and told him to go back with it—he dropped it inside the door, and said, "So help me God, I never touched it," but he had it when I took hold of him.
JOHN LAWRENCE (I police-constable F 9.) I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction, which I got from the Clerk of the Peace, at the Guildhall, Westminster (read)—the prisoner is the man.
Prisoner's Defence. I was passing, and the gentleman said he saw me take it off the shelf, and put it into my bag, but I did not—he said at the office he saw me put it into the bag, and then he said I did not put it in the bag.
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Transported for Fourteen Years.
311. EMMA TURTLE was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of November, 4 sheets, value 2l.; 1 counterpane, value 10s.; 1 table-cloth, value 1s.; and 2 towels, value 2s.; the goods of William Harvey, her master.
WILLIAM HARVEY . I am proprietor of St. Paul's Hotel, in St. Paul's Church-yard. The prisoner was one of my chambermaids—I received information from the officer, and missed four sheets, two counterpanes, and some napkins—these are them.
THOMAS SAPWELL . I am an officer. I produce four sheets, one counterpane, one table-cloth, and some napkins—Mr. Higham, the pawnbroker, stopped the prisoner—I went to her lodgings, and found some more property.
ALICE ANN HARVEY . I am the prosecutor's wife. These are all my property—we had discharged the prisoner before this—we did not think her dishonest while she was in the house—we had her from Mr. Baker's coffee-house, in Change-alley—here are four sheets, two table-cloths, and some napkins.
(Henry Gelby, coach-proprietor, Bishop's Stortford; and John Powell, publican, gave the prisoner a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 20.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor and Jury.
Confined Three Months.
JACOB UNWIN . I am a printer and stationer. The prisoner had been between five and six months in my employ as light porter and errand-boy—I missed a dessert spoon about the middle of November, and a table spoon on the 13th or 14th of December—I found all the property at the pawnbroker's.
pawned one spoon and a jacket—the other goods I cannot recollect who pawned—they were pawned in the course of nearly four months.
Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Had you known the prisoner before? A. Yes—his friends are respectable—I can identify this spoon as pawned by him—I thought it was his father's—he has redeemed several articles.
MR. UNWIN re-examined. These books are my property, and the spoons are mine—here are four spoons not mine.
Cross-examined. Q. How do you know you may not have sold these books? A. This one I have only a single book of, and it was not sold—it is worth 5s.—here is a single volume of another work, which had not been in my stock one week before I missed it—the prisoner had been with me five or six months—I had a verbal testimony as to his past conduct—he came only as temporary servant.
(Mr. Gilbert McMurdo, surgeon of Newgate, gave the prisoner a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 22.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury.— Transported for Seven Years.
Before Mr. Recorder.
WILLIAM COX . I am a shopman to Mr. Soulby, of Cheapside. On the 31st of December, about a quarter or twenty minutes past seven o'clock in the evening, I was behind the counter, and saw the prisoner in the doorway—I am quite sure he is the person—there was a gas-light in the door-way—there are sashes to the window—the one nearest the door was open—I saw the prisoner put his hand into the window, reach round from the door-way, and run away with a bundle of silk handkerchiefs—the window is glazed towards the street, and has a sash within—he crossed Cheapside, and ran down Bucklersbury—I ran, crying, "Stop thief," and never lost sight of him till be turned down Pancras-lane; and in half a minute after I saw him in custody—I found the handkerchiefs in Pancreas-lane, not two yards from him—the officer stopped him—one of the handkerchiefs was taken from him in my presence—the others I picked up—they were all cut and hemmed—there are thirty-two in all.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. How were these handkerchiefs disposed of in the window? A. Tied in a bundle, with a string passed over them, and tied on the ends—lying on other parcels—there is a bow at the entrance of the shop—any one might reach them, by coming into the passage, and reaching out—I am quite sure the prisoner is the man who took the handkerchiefs—I saw his face when he took them—I had my eye upon him all the time he was running down Bucklersbury—if he had thrown them down before I turned the corner I should have seen him.
GEORGE CHEENEY . I am an officer. I heard an alarm—I was in Pancras-lane, coming towards Bucklersbury—I saw the prisoner running, and several persons following him, crying, "Stop thief"—I caught him in
my arms—I pulled open his coat, and this handkerchief dropped from his bosom—I did not see the bundle fall.
Cross-examined. Q. These others were in a bundle? A. No, they were all loose—his coat was not buttoned—I caught him by the collar, and his coat came open.
WILLIAM LANCASTER SOULBY . Cox is my shop-boy—this handkerchief is mine, and is one of the parcel that was taken out of my shop—I have no particular mark on it, but I have others like it—they are of different colours and sizes—I had merely tied them with a small piece of twine.
Cross-examined. Q. Can you swear it has not been sold? A. No; but it has not been washed—I cannot swear to the number I lost, but there were thirty-two found.
Prisoner's Defence I was going to a friend in the Borough; this officer sopped me, and said I had stolen a handkerchief from a gentleman's pocket.
GUILTY . Aged 23.— Transported for Seven Years.
314. ROBERT DENT and JAMES COTTER were indicted for stealing, on the 24th of December, 1 box, value 1s.; 2 glass bottles, value 6d.; 3 pints of Sibley's Solar Tincture, value 37s.; 1/2; oz. of James's Fever Powders, value 12s. 6d.; and 1 lb. of Pritchett's Vermifuge, value 23s., the property of James Lindsay Barclay and others; to which they pleaded.
GUILTY .— Confined Six Months.
(William Douglass, William Reed, of Winchester-street, Bethnal-green, William Gee, a butcher, of Whitechapel-road, Joseph Hayward, of Thomas-street, Whitechapel, and John Bennett, gave Dent a good character.)
OLD COURT, Tuesday, Janurary 5th, 1836.
Second Jury, before, Mr. Sergeant Arabin.
HARRY HARRIS . I am salesman to Gilman and Lucas, of Newgate-street. On the 28th of December, about twenty minutes to eleven o'clock at night, I was in Farringdon-street, crossing from Holborn-hill—I felt my pocket lighten—I turned round, and saw the prisoner going from me—I followed him, and took him with my handkerchief in his hand, and gave him in charge.
(Property produced and sworn to.)
GUILTY . * Aged 9.— Transported Seven Years.
CHARLES EDWARD SPARROW . I am a jeweller. I was on Holborn-bridge on the 24th of December, about nine o'clock at night—I felt something at my pocket—I turned round, and saw the prisoner tucking something up his trowsers—I collared him, and told him he had my handkerchief—he denied it, and afterwards gave it to me—I gave him into custody—this is my handkerchief—I felt it taken, and he was the nearest person to me.
Prisoner's Defence. I found the handkerchief on Holborn-bridge—a woman saw me pick it up—she said she would come to Guildhall.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Months.
ISAAC WHITE . I am a labourer. I left a bundle of clothes in the care of Mrs. Pullen, at Bayswater, where I had lodged—I left there myself early in December, and went into Kent—I went to Mrs. Pullen's for my bundle a fortnight before Christmas, but did not get it—I knew the prisoner about Bayswater by sight, seeing him at the public-house—in consequence of what Mrs. Pullen informed me, I fell in with the prisoner about the 20th of December, at a public-house—when he first came in he said, "Well, how are you? have you had any luck since you have been home?"—I said, "No"—I then asked him where he took my bundle to—he said, "To the Queen's Head in the Borough"—I found no bundle had been left there—he kept promissing me he would go there about it, and at last brought me the bundle—I opened it, and missed two shirts from it, one of which I found on his back, and the other was completely gone.
SARAH PULLEN . I live at Bayswater. The prosecutor left the bundle of clothes in my care—I received orders from him to send the bundle to the Queen's Head, Borough—I asked the prisoner to take it there, and said I would pay him—I knew him by seeing him about the public-house—the prosecutor afterwards applied to me for his bundle—among other property, it contained there shirts—I told the prisoner the prosecutor would pay him for taking it when he came to town—he never came near me after I gave him the bundle—my husband drives a fly.
GUILTY . *Aged 22.— Transported for Seven Years.
MESSRS PHILLIPS AND BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
MOSES SOLOMON . I am a tailor and clothes salesman, and live in Moor-street, Compton-street, Soho. The prisoner came to my house on the 23rd of December, between six and seven o'clock in the evening—I never knew him before—he offered me two pieces of cloths, measuring nearly eight yards and a half—this is it—he brought it in two separate parcels, in brown paper—he asked me 5l. for the two pieces—I consider it worth from 18s. to 20s. a yard, and suspected him from the price—I asked him if it was his own cloth—he said, "Yes"—I asked him how he came in possession of it—he said he had it from a brother of his, a master tailor—I asked where—he said, "In long-lane, Smithfield"—I told him I would send my shopman to ascertain the truth of his having it from his brother, and if he was right I would purchase it—he then said he had to go down to Wales, and had no time to spare, and would rather take 4l. than have any trouble about it—he said that he had been out of employ there weeks—I sent for a policeman, and had him taken.
WILLIAM HATLEY . I am a policeman. Mr. Solomon gave the prisoner into my charge—I asked him how he came by the cloth—he said he hot got a mother in Wales very ill, and had received a letter from her that morning to come down, but he had no money—that he had a brother, tailor, in Long-lane, who owned him 5l., but could not pay him, and he had given him this cloth to pledge—he said, in the course of the evening, that he had been out of employ for the last three weeks, but his last situation was in Watling-street—I took him to the station-house, searched him, and found 5l. 2s.9d. on him, which was returned to him by the inspector—I found the key of the prosecutors' beer cellar on him, among other keys.
THOMAS BRETT . I am warehouseman to Messrs. Jas. Morrison and others He has more then one partner—I am the cloth buyer—this cloth belongs to the firm—the prisoner was house-porter to Mr. Morrison, and had nothing to do with the business at all.
JOHN DILLON . I am one of the partners in the firm of Morrison and Co. The prisoner was in our employ as porter, at the time he was taken, and for two or three years—there is a small beer cellar attached to the premises, the key of which was found on the prisoner—there is a communication between that cellar and the cloth-room, by a dwarf partition—I belive this cloth to be ours—he would have nothing to do with cloth.
(Henry Pearson, potatoe-dealer, of Rathbone-place; and William Price, warehouseman, of Pilgrim-street, Ludgate-hill, gave the prisoner a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 24.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Nine Months.
GUILTY. Aged 14.— Judgment Respited.
THOMAS NEWTON . I am a milkman. On Wednesday afternoon, the 30th of November, about four o'clock, I left my milk-cans in St. John's-street, Smithfield, while I went across the street to serve a customer, and when I came back they were gone—I received information, and took the prisoner in Red Lion-street, four or five hundred yards off, with them.
Prisoner's Defence. I came out of my own door to fellow a funeral—the milk-pail was lying on the stones—I knocked my foot against it—it was in a dark place—I took it up, and took it across the road to put it where the light was, and the man came and took hold of me.
GUILTY. Aged 30.—Recommended to mercy — Confined One Month.
pocket, but happened to turn round, and saw the prisoner with my handkerchief in his hand—he immediately threw it away—I took hold of him, and gave him and the handkerchief to the policeman.
Prisoner. The handkerchief was three yards from me—he took hold of me, took it up, and said I had picked his pocket. Witness. He had two other persons with him, who ran off immediately I took hold of him.
(Property produced and sworn to.)
WILLIAM HARRISON . I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction, which I got from Mr. Clark's office, (read)—I remember the name, but cannot swear he is the same boy now—I gave evidence last December twelvemonth against a person of his name, for picking Mr. Dyson's pocket—I had seen him commit the offence, but it was a much less boy then the prisoner is now—I connot swear to him now—I have not given evidence against any other Alderson—I do not belive he is the same boy—he is grown out of my Knowledge altogether.
GUILTY .* Aged 16.— Transported for Seven Years.
NOT GUILTY .
JOHN HEATHWAITE . I live with John Loveridge, a cheesemonger, in Crawford-street. On Saturday night, the 19th of December, at a quarter before eleven o'clock, I was serving in the shop, and saw the prisoner come round the corner, and saw the ham under her cloak—she had taken it from the window—she had not been in the shop—I went round to her, and said, "Hallo! Mistress; what do you do with this ham under your cloak I"—she said, "I have got no ham"—I put my hand down, and took two pieces from under her cloak—I gave her in charge—I know it to be my master's ham—I had put it in the window a quarter of an hour before
Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. How do you know it? A. Decause I cut it, and put it in the window myself—it was not outside the window—the window was open—I know the prisoner as a customer—she had not bought it—she was intoxicated at the time.
GUILTY . Aged 38.— Confined One Month.
ALFRED PHILLIPS . I am a print-colourer, and live in Newcastle-street, Clerkenwell-close. I had seen the prisoner two or three times in the company of my cousin—he applied to me, and said he was in distress;
and I gave him a day's work, on the 19th of December, in a two-pair of stairs room—he came next morning to finish the work—I had a waistcoat hanging by my bed-side in that room, and 16s. in the pocket—there were two half-crowns, eight shillings, and the rest in sixpences—I had felt it safe just before—I left him in the room for about two minutes; and on returning, I met him coming out of the room—he said he was going to fetch some water—he went down-stairs,—I put on my waistcoat, and missed the money—I came down stairs and found the pitcher at the bottom of the stairs, but he was gone—I found him about half-past 3 o'clock in the afternoon—he was searched at the station-house, and 9s. found on him—nobody but him could have taken it.
JOHN DAVIS I am a policeman. On the 20th of December. I went with the prosecutor and found the prisoner—I found on him four duplicates, one half-crown, and four shillings. and five sixpences—I took the money away from him—he said two shillings belonged to him—he was locked in the cell, and afterwards called to me, and asked who had his money—I said I had—he said, "I think it very heart; all the money I took from Phillips he owed me."
GUILTY . *Aged 18.— Transported for seven years.
GUILTY .— Confined Three Months.
EDWARD GEORGE PEACHE I drive a cart for Charles Ritchie, who is a baker and miler. On Saturday, the 9th of December, I had a coat which Joseph Boulter gave me to sell for him—I had my master's van in Newport-street, and left the coat in the boot—I was going in and out of a basker's shop in the street unloading the van, and the coat was taken away by somebody—I saw it again on Monday—I lost it between seven and eight o'clock in the morning.
JAMES NEIGHBOUR . I am a pawnbroker, and live in Broad-street, St. Giles's On Saturday, about the middle of the day, the prisoner came and pawned this coat. in the name of David William's, for 1l.—the prosecutor afterwards applied to me about it—I have known the prisoner four or five years by pawning at our house—I understood him to be a dealer is clothes—he has pawned clothes before with me.
GEORGE COLLIER . I am a policeman. I took him into custody at his lodging, on Tuesday morning—he denied ever pawning the coat—I said he must go with me to the pawnbroker's—he said, he never pawned the coat, and was not there on the Saturday at all—but the pawnbroker identified him.
Prisoner's Defence. I bought the coat on Saturday morning in Monmouth-street, just under the window of the King's Head public-house, but cannot find the man I bought it of—I took it to the pawnbroker's, who has known me five or six years, and gave my right address—I know nothing
about its being stolen—I was told on Monday morning an officer had been looking for me, but I went home on Monday night—I was certainly rather tipsy when he took me.
GUILTY . †Aged 30.— Transported for seven Years.
Before Mr. Recorder.
327. WILLIAM LAMBDEN was indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of December, at Ashford, in Middlesex, a gelding, value 5l., the property of James Grieves and another—2nd COUNT, stating it to be the property of George Sherborn.
GEORGE SHERBORN . I am a farmer, and live at Ashford, in Middlesex, On the morning of the 24th of December I missed a cream—coloured, longstailed gelding from my straw-yard there—I afterwards saw the same gelding at the stable of the Griffin Inn, at Kingston, in Surrey—Ashford is about fourteen miles from Hyde-park corner—I afterwards attended before the magistrate, and saw the horse—the magistrate's clerk, Mr. Horne, took down the evidence—but he is not here.
RICHARD HANKS I am a constables of Kingston, which is about eight or nine miles from Ashford. On the night of the 23rd of December, about ten minutes before twelve o'clock I met the prisoner at Kingston, leading a cream-coloured horse—I stopped him, and asked where ha was going with it—he said, "To London market"—I asked him, "What for?"—he said, "To sell it"—I asked him where he brought it from—he said at first, "From Staines"—then he told me brought it from Weyhill, in Hampshire—I told him I should detain him and the horse, as his story did not satisfy me—I should take him before the mayor and if they were satisfied, I should be—I put him into the watch-house, and looked the horse up at the Griffin Inn; and on Thursday, the 24th, Mr. Sherborn came and owned owned it—I went before the mayor that day at Sunbury, which is five miles from Kingston.
GEORGE SHERBORN re-examined. The horse was under my care at the straw-yard—it belonged to Joseph and James Grieves—I had seen it on the 23rd—it was almost an invariable custom to see the horses four or five times a-day—I had seen it safe in the straw-yard on the night of the 23rd, and the gate was locked—next morning the gate was forced off the hinges—the end that was locked to the post was not open, only off its hinges, and there was room enough for a horse to be led through—it was not open enough when I saw it, but it had evidently been put back again towards the hinges.
GUILTY. Aged 32.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor, believing it to the his first offence. — Transported for life.
GUILTY. Aged 13.—Recommended to mercy — Confined One Month.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Months.
JOHN SWAINE . I am shapman to Mr. Simeon Browne, when lives in holborn. On the 22nd of December, about five o'clock in the evening. I was behind the counter, and saw the prisoner at the door with a piece of ticking on his shoulder—he took it out of the shop, and I followed him—as I turned out of the door I saw him placing the ticking against the door of the next house and he was moving gently away from it, as if I had seen him—I went after him, and brought him back, and told another man to bring the piece of ticking—I should not think he had any opportunity of seeing whether I observed him—when he placed it outside he pretended to look into watchmaker's shop—I noticed two or three men outside, who appeared to be connected with him—he had got about five yards from the door—it is a private house, and rather a dark place—I should think it would be heavy to carry—there are sixty-five yards of it—it is worth 3l.—one of these men came up to me, and had I been a little further I believe he would have struck me—they did nothing to the ticking—the prisoner was carrying it out as softly as any cat would have walked—it had been it the window, four or five feet from the entrance—he had lifted it over a pile of hearth-rugs, and some druggets.
GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Six Months.
NEW COURT.—Tuesday, Jannuary 5th, 1836.
Fifth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.
331. JOHN BURDETT was indicted for stealing, on the 23th of December, 1 basket, value 2s.; 1 table-cloth, value 6s.; 2 shirts, value 1l.; 1 night-gown, value 1s.6d.; 5 pair of trowsers, value 7s.; 1 shift, value 2s.; 2 aprons, value 3s.; 3 handkerchief value 5s.; 2 habit shirts, value 1s. 6d.; 1 collar, value 6d.; 9 pair of stocking, value 9s.; and 2 caps, value 1s.; the goods of John Robertson; 2 shirts, value 5s.; and 1 nightcap, value 6d.; the goods of Charles Gillbert Robertson; 3 shirts, value 5s., the goods of Douglas Robertson; and 2 shirts, value 2s., the goods of Alexander Robertson, the younger, from the person of Alexander Robertson.
ALEXANDER ROBERTSON . I received a basket of clothes from my sister on the 25th of December—some of them belong to John Robertson, and some to other person—I was carrying the basket in Gracechurch-street, when the prisoner came up and told me to give them to him, as they were too heavy for me—I was forced to give it him, as it was too heavy for me—he said he would take them for me.
JACOB BARNETT . I was in Gracechurch-street about twelve o'clock on the 25th of December—I saw the prisoner come up to Robertson—I am quite sure he is the man—he took the basket to carry it for him, and went down the street in front of him—when he got to Fenechurch-street he got behind the old man (Robertson)—he went down Lime-street, and the old man went on—I followed the prisoner till I saw a policeman, and gave him in charge.
Prisoner. I was not near the place—not nearer than the Flower Pot, that day he let me go from Gravechurch-street down Leadenhall-street
and on to Bishopsgate-church, before he stopped me. Witness. Because I did not see a policeman before.
EDWARD KIRBY DARLINSON (City police-constable No. 11.) I took the prisoner, by direction of Barnett, with this basket of linen—I told bird I thought there was something wrong, and asked what he had got—he said, "Dirty linen"—I said, "Consider yourself my prisoner"—he came back with me.
Prisoner's Defence. I was going to my employ, and just at the Flower Pot, a man was standing, with this basket on the ground—he said, "I have brought this from Walworth, will you take it, I will give you a shilling"—I took it on my head, and the man was behind me—I told the officer no.
GUILTY . Aged 39.— Confined Six Months.
EDWARD WINDETT . I am warehouse-boy to Mr. Davidson. I met the prisoner in St. Paul's churchyard, wheeling my master's truck, about seven o'clock on the evening it was lost—I asked where be got it from—he said a man told him he should have 1s. 6d. if he took it home—I told him it was my masters", and took it away—he late me have it—he did not say any thing—he stood still.
Prisoner. How did I get it again? Witness. After taking it from aim, I took it to the Post office, and left it outside the door while I went in, and when I came out again it was gone—I did not see it again.
Prisoner. I bought it on Friday—nobody took it from me after I bought it—it is no such thing that I gave it up to him.
ELIZABETH NEASMITH . I am the wife of John Neasmith, a boot and shoemaker, and live in Willow-street, Shoreditch. I know the prisoner—my husband worked for his brother—I saw him take the wheels off a truck, on Saturday, the 5th of December, in the evening—this is the part of truck,
Stephen Whithead (police-constable G 207.) I apprehended the prisoner, and got part of the truck—he said he bought it of a man whom he did not know, for 14s.—he said he had sold the parts that were absent, for 11s.
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined One Month.
THOMAS BENJAMIN HASSELL . I live in St. Paul's Church-yard, and and a comb and brush maker. On the 21st of December, at half-past four o'clock the prisoner came, and said he had called for some brushes which were to be there ready for Mr. Wilson, of Tottenham—I inquired, and none.
had been ordered; but from what he subsequently said, I considered that they were to be sent on approbation, as the prices were to be marked on them—I said, "I do not know you, if you will tell me where your cart is, I will send them"—he represented himself as a carrier—I said, "I do not know you, you have brought no order"—he said he was well-known, that he had brought his father's cart round on purpose, and it was then waiting in Newgate-street—I then put up six brushes, worth 1l. 2s. 6d., to go to Mr. Wilson, of Tottenham—I have them to my boy to take to the cart, and see that he was the proper person.
ROBERT TAYLOR . I am the shop boy. The prisoner had six brushes for Mr. Willson—I went with them to Clement's-inn, at the corner of the Old Bailey—there was a cart standing with "T. Young, Enfield-carrier" on it—the prisoner took them from my hand, threw them into the cart said it was all right, and I came way.
GEORGE ATTENBOROUGH . I am a pawnbroker, and live in crown-street Finsbury. On the evening of the 21st of December, I was serving in the shop, and the prisoner brought these brushes in to pledge—I asked what he was—he said, "A hawker"—and seeing them very good brushes, I suspected they were stolen—I said if he was a hawker, why should the brushes have Mr. Hassell's name on them—he then said he was a brush-maker, and had a large connection, and if he could not make enough, he had them of Mr. Hassell—he said his brother was outside with the Walthamstow cart.
(Thomas Young, the prisoner's Father, gave him a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined One Year.
334. JAMES WALLIS was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of December 30 has weight of potatoes, value 1s. 6d. the good of Joseph Walker, his master; and ANN WALLIS for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing them to have been stolen against the Statute, &c.
SAMUEL WALKER I am the son of Joseph Walker, of Cross-street Islington, a potato-dealer. The prisoner, James Wallis, was his errand-boy—he was charged with stealing potatoes on the 17th of December—he denied it—I went with a constable to his mother's house—I asked her for those potatoes her son had given her—she said "What potatoes?"—the constable came up at the same time, and asked her for them—she went up into her room, and brought them down to us—these are them.
RICHARD BRADSELL . I live in Cross-street Islington, and am a potsto dealer. A little master's shop—he went in and brought out a basket of potatoes. and emptied them into his mother's basket, who was at the corner.
James Wallis. My mother came down on Thursday night for thirty pounds of potatoes—she was going out to work the following days, and was not going to be paid till she was done—she was coming down then to pay the bill—she did not like to come to Mr. Walker to ask him for any more potatoes she came and asked them to take them, and pay for them out of my wages, on Sunday morning—she came to the door, I weighed them and turned them into her basket—she went home with them—I went in, and meant to put them down but Sarah was washing the slate; she asked me to run over the way and get one penny worth of horehound—before I came back Mr. Bradsell came and said I had stolen a basket of potatoes.
Ann Wallis Defence. I desired my son to get them, and put them down on the slate.
SARAH WALKER . I allow James Wallis to server in the shop—the baskets contain about 30lbs., but we never sell them without weighing—the female prisoner was in the habit of dealing with us; and lately, we had booked her for three or four weeks—he had served his mother before, but never with 30lbs.—she had five pounds generally, and ten pounds on a Saturday sometimes.
JAMES WALLIS— GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Three Months
ANN WALLIS— GUILTY . Aged 44.— Confined Six Months.
BARBARA CALLAM . I reside with Mr. Thomas Fisher, in Park-street Islington. The prisoner used to bring potatoes to the house—the spoon was missed on Thursday, the 17th of December—I had seen it in the cupboard the day before—it was not likely to be thrown into the ashes—I do not know whether the prisoner had any opportunity of stealing it.
Prisoner's Defence. I went to Mr. Fisher's with half a cwt. of potatoes—the witness went down before me, and showed me where to put them——I walked up-stairs—she followed, and shut the door—I was coming across the road, with the truck—I had potatoes in another basket—there were some cinder ashes—I saw something shine in them and pick it up—it was this spoon—I came home and showed it to Mrs. Walker; and said, "See, what I have found"—my young mistress came in, and I showed it to her; and she said it would get some of the poor servants into a scrape—she rubbed it, and made out the letters; and thought it was Mr. Fishers's—told me take it there the next morning when I went for orders.
Prisoner. I found it across the street, opposite the house.
NOT GUILTY .
RICHARD TOMKINS . I am shopman to Messes. George and William Ansell, fixture-dealers Great Queen-street. On the 30th of December, I saw the prisoner put his foot on the threshold of the door reach round take this pestle and mortar—he then ran away—I pursed and saw him throw it down—the policeman took him, an brought him back, with in five minutes—I did not lose sight of him.
Prisoner. When I was up at Bow-street, he said he did not see me throw it down. Witness. Yes, I said I did.
GUILTY. Aged 19.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecuter.
Confined One Month.
THOMAS FITZPATRICK . I keep the Jacob's Well public-house, it Charlotte-street, Manchester-square—I have one partner—the prisoner lodged at our house. On the 25th of December, I had in the till in the bar, about 25s. in silver, and some halfpence—I was absent for ten minutes, about three o'clock in the morning—just as I left the bar, I shut the till up—I went into the parlour, and left nobody in the bar—I went back again, and found the till half open, and the money gone—I missed it directly—I do not know who had been into the bar—there were seven or eight people in the house, and one or two policemen came in—the prisoner was there—he was searched in my presence—24s. 6d. and some halfpence were found on him—I cannot say that it was my money—when I saw the till safe there was a crown-piece, some half-crowns, shillings, and sixpences in it, and the same was found on him.
Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Had you counted the money in the till? A. No; I had looked at it three or four minutes before I went out, and I left eight or ten men in the parlour—the prisoner was one of them—the prisoner lodged in the house, and was in the habit of using the parlour—my partner was out—I have known the prisoner nine or ten years, he has a good character.
JOHN ROBINSON . I am an Inspector of the D division of the Police. At a quarter before three o'clock on this morning I was standing outside the prosecutor's door—there was a noise inside—Sergeant Harrison was with me—he pointed out a round hole in the door, through which I could see the back parlour—I saw the prosecutor go from the bar into the back parlour, apparently to quiet the people, and I saw the prisoner go into the bar, and immediately I heard some money rattle-whether it was the prisoner rattling it, or any other person in the bar, I cannot say.
THOMAS HARRISON (police-sergeant D 14.) I was at this house—I went away with the Inspector, and when I came back, a man came out of the door, and called the policeman—the landlord said his till had been robbed—I went to the parlour—there were seven or eight persons sitting there—he wished them all searched—I searched one, and then I asked if he suspected any person—he said, yes, the prisoner, who was standing without his coat, and a person had seen him come from the bar—I asked the prisoner what he had got—he said, 17s.—I search him, and found this crown-piece—the prosecutor said "That is a crown-piece which my partner gave change for, and pot into the till"—there was 1l. 3s. 10 1/4 d. found on him—he was drunk—the prosecutor said, "This is 5s. which you tool out of my till"—and he said, "No, I did not"—the prosecutor's partner then came in and pulled off the coat which the prisoner has got on now, and gave it to him.
Cross-examined. Q. He told you he had but 17s. when he came in? A. Yes; I cannot tell whether he had won any money.
MR. PHILLIPS to THOS. FITZPATRICK. Q. Did you see your partner come into the house? A. Yes; he had taken away the prosecutor's great-coat, which he had left in the bar, and worn it that night, without telling him if it—it would be natural for the prisoner to go to the bar to look for it.
Prisoner. My hat, gloves, and stick, were there as well, Witness. Yes, they were—I gave him his hat and gloves out, his stick is still there—I was on terms of friendship with him.
WILLIAM BRANNAN . I am a servant, out of place. I was at this public-house—there was a bustle, and a great noise—I saw Mr. Fitzpartick come from the bar into the room, to make peace there—he stood on the form—I did not see the prisoner go into the bar, but I saw him come out, and when the prosecutor said he was robbed, I said I saw him come out—he did not bring any thing out, that I know of.
Cross-examined. Q. He had not his great-coat on? A. No—I was sober.
Prisoner's Defence. I went in for my coat and hat—there was a disturbance in the parlour—finding my coat was not in the bar, I came back and stooped there till he accused me—I said, I was in the bar looking for my coat, hat, and stick, and my coat was not forthcoming—I said I thought I had about 17s.—it proved to be more, but I had been drinking freely with him and his friends—I brakefasted dining, and spent my evenings with him—they admitted me to the bar, and had no cause to suspect me.
NOT GUILTY .
OLD COURT, Wednesday, January 6th, 1836.
Third Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.
338. MARY BELLAMY and ELIZABETH KIME were indicted for stealing, on the 14th December, 15 glass bottles, value 5s.; 3 pints of brandy, value 12s.; 3 pints of rum, value 5s.; 1 1/2; pint of gin, value 2s.; 9 pints of sherry, value 1l.; 6 pints of port, value 12s.; 1 box of floating lights, value 3d.; 1 1/2; lb. of tea, value 6s.; 3 lbs. of sugar, value 2s.; 11 drinking-glasses, value 5s.; 2 yards of lace, value 2s.; 4 handkerchiefs, value 18d.; 1/2; a yard of calico, value 3d.; 1 jars, value 2d.; 1 1/2; lb. of jam, value 10d.; 1 towel, value 3d.; and a 1/2; lb. of coffee, value 8d.; the goods of Josias Roger Woodford, their master; to which they both pleaded
GUILTY. Strongly recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor.
Confined Four Days.
Before Mr. Baron Gurney.
MR. ATTORNEY-GENERAL declined offering any evidence.
NOT GUILTY .
Before Mr. Baron Gurney.
340. HENRY WHEELER was indicted for feloniously, knowingly, and without lawful excuse, having in his possession. 38 pieces of paper, each having thereon, the impression of a false, forged, and counterfeit die, resembling a die which had been used by, and under the direction of the Commissioners of Stamps and Taxes, denoting a certain stamp-duty charged and imposed by 9 Geo. IV.—19 other COUNTS, varying the manner of laying the charge.
MR. ATTORNEY GENERAL with MR. PHILLIPS conducted the Prosecution.
accompanied me, (he belongs to the Stamp Office,) and Mace, a police-officer—there is a private door to the house, with a brass-plate on the door, on which was engraved, "H. Wheeler, Card-manufacturer"—there is a shop door, with "H. Wheeler, Card-manufacturer and Printer" on each side—I went in with my companions, at the shop door—I asked for Mr. Wheeler—I went down stairs into a cellar-kitchen, and there saw the prisoner—I asked him who he was—he said his name was Wheeler—I asked if he was master of the house—he said, "Yes"—I told him I had got a warrant to search his house for a forged ace of spades—I do not exactly recollect what he said, but he requested I would let him look at the warrant—I read it over to him, with the exception of the name of the informat—he made no particular observation at that time, and I went up stairs—he afterwards said some person had done it (laid the information) out of spite, or something to that effect—I left him and his wife, two sons and daughter, in charge of Mace, and went up stairs with Stowell—we just took a cursory view of the different rooms, and I returned back and found the prisoner in the cellar—I had left him in the kitchen—I told him I must go and search the house, having searched the shop in his presence—I told him I would go up to the top of the house to begin—he said, "You had better begin at the bottom," or something to that effect; but we went to the top—I went first into the attic, which was partly divided into two, but part of the partition was down—in the back part of the attic, I went through a trap-door into the roof part, and there found a quantity of playing-cards, some loose, and some in packages—unfortunately, after taking the prisoner away, all the cards I found got mixed—I handed the cards I found there down to Stowell—the prisoner was present—I then went into the front part of the attic, and found a hole in the ceiling, through which I got into the roof of that part, there being no other way to do so—I there found a quantity of cards—there might be ten or twelve packs—I also found this bag—it is in the same state as I found it—I gave the second parcel of cards to Stowell, and dropped the bag down to him also—I examined it (opens it)—I found in it these papers—I believe they are all the same—there are thirty-four sheets with ten impressions of the ace of spades on each sheet—being three hundred and forty impressions—I also found in the bag thirty-eight impressions loose—I tied them up together, and am sure these are the same—they are in a state to put on cards—some of them are pasted on cards—I then sent for a coach, and took the prisoner into custody—I searched the house afterwards, and found a great quantity of cards, and materials for making cards—there were a great many more packs of cards in the bag, consisting of fifty-one cards each—those wanted the ace of spades—they were loose in the bag—I also found this parcel, which contains ninety-nine aces of spades, some on cards, and some on papers—here are thirty-seven aces of spades without the stamp—they were in the bag—I also found some blank cards, some old spade aces, some stamped, and some not—these were in the bag—I found a great quantity of papers and cards in various parts of the house—in nearly every room—here are the materials for making them, which I found—here is a block for printing, with the knaves and kings and queens, and other materials for card printing—here are some cards in the process of manufacturer, not finished—altogether there are one hundred and eighty packs wanting the ace of spades.
JOHN STOWELL . I am an officer of the Stamp Duties. I accompanied Ellis to search the prisoner's house on Tuesday, the 15th of December—I went up stairs with him and Ellis—I heard Ellis read the warrant to him
before we went up stairs—Ellis searched the loft, and handed down ten or twelve packs of cards to me, some in papers, and some loose—he then went to the front part of the attic, got up a broken place between the plaster, and handed me down more cards, and a bag—I opened it, and found some cards, which I have marked—the bag contained the things now produced—the other cards, which Ellis has produced, were found in the house.
JOSEPH HARRIS . I am deputy-supervisor of stamps in the stamp department at Somerset House. (Looking at the thirty-eight impressions of the ace of spades) these are forged—the circle round the garter is very different; the genuine one being engine-turned—it is the custom of card manufacturers to send paper to the Stamp Officer for the ace of spades to be stamped—the Commissioners provide a stamp for that purpose—they send plain paper to us in reams—the Commissioners sometimes provide a stamp with the manufacturer's name on it, at his request—there was such a plate provided for a manufacturer named Thomas Creswick—there is a book kept at the Stamp Office with impressions of the plates which are prepared—I have it here—it has impressions of the plates prepared for Creswick—the date is on the impression; "14th of June, 1828"—these aces of spades appear to be a forgery of that plate—the other aces found in the bag are all forgeries of other plates, of other manufacturers.
Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. In 1828, what was the duty payable on playing-cards? A. Up to 1828, it was 1s. 6d. on the ace of spades, 6d. on the wrapper, and 6d. on the label.
Q. The card you call a forgery, appears in no respect a resemblance of Creswick's plate? A. It is very bad—it would certainly not deceive any body in the Stamp Office, nor any body else who examined it, I should think—there is a great variation between the lion and unicorn, and the crown; and in the ring encircling the motto—I have reason to believe all the cards produced are forgeries—Creswick is still a card-manufacturer—this old ace of spades is a genuine one—some of these old ones I have not seen before—I am not able to judge whether these are genuine or not, not having seen them before—I believe them to be forged, but I am not positive—this one I am sure is a genuine one—it is a very old ace, which was used previous to my coming into the Office—here is one genuine, and one which I have no knowledge of—the rest are blanks—the one with Creswick on it is genuine—this other pack is also a stamp used before I came into the office, and I cannot speak positively about them—I never saw Thomas Wheeler—there was a person of that name, a licensed card-manufacturer—that was not the prisoner—I do not know whether he is alive or dead—in 1828, when the stamp-duty was altered, the impression of the aces of spades was also altered—I was in the Stamp Office at that time.
Q. At that time, do you know that the Stamp Office had a great deal of card-paper, with the duties on it, of the time before the alteration took place? A. No: I do not know that; nor that they sold it as wastepaper—the genuine paper would be in the custody of the warehousekeeper of cards and dies—he has no perquisites, that I am aware of, respecting cards and paper—I have no access to the warehouse, and I do not know whether things are sold or not—there is only one warehouse—Lewis
Legue is the keeper—I am not quite certain whether he was so before 1828—I do not think that Thomas Wheeler was a licensed manufacturer of cards after 1828, no plate being provided for him, but I cannot be positive.
MR. ATTORNEY-GENERAL. Q. Was a new die for the aces provided in 1828, after the passing of the Act of Parliment? A. there was—if varied considerably from the old die—this plate for Creswick was according to the new die—those bearing the name of T. Wheeler I have compared with the specimen-book—I did not compare those two which the prisoner; counsel showed me.
CHARLES PRESSWICK . I am secretary to the Board of Stamps at Somerset House. On the delivery of the new plate of the ace of spades, engraved for the Board, I take it to the stamping room, and take an impression of it in a book for that purpose—here is the book—in June, 1828, the ace of spades impression was changed—I saw the new impression made in the book, and this is the impression taken at the time—this is an impression from the genuine plate—I apprehend this plate has been used for Creswick since 1828—these thirty-eight impressions are forged.
Cross-examined. Q. What sort of forgeries should you call them? A. They are imitation of the plate, no doubt—they resemble it in some measure—they vary considerably on being compared—any card-maker would perceive the variation.
COURT. Q. Not every card-player? A. I should apprehend not
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Can you undertake to say whether these cards have ever been played with? A. Some of them certainly not, for they are not pasted, but on paper only—there was a wheeler a licensed card-manufacturer, and I think his initial was T., but I cannot say whether it was Thomas—I do not know whether the prisoner is a licensed card-maker—I do not think there is now any registered card-maker named Wheeler.
Q. There was an alteration in the duty in 1828; can you tell whether, at that time, there remained a stock in hand of card-paper of the duties then payable?. A. Not of the ace of spades, certainly—if any was unconsumed it would be cancelled—they have not been sold for waste-paper.
MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Is it the custom, in making cards, to paste this paper over the thick card, to finish it? A. Certainly.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Can you recollect whether a person named Russell did not buy some thousands of old aces of spades? A. I have no knowledge of that—I cannot imagine how such a thing could have occured—I have no knowledge or belief such a thing could be done—the stamps for the ace of spades only vary reference to the name of the card-maker.
COURT. Q. You have a stamp denoting the duty, and if a manufacturer takes a certain quantity of stamps, and wishes his name impressed on them, in addition to the ordinary stamp, you impress his name?. A. Plates are provided for every card-maker, with the name—it is the same impression, except the name.
EDMUND GREGORY . I am landlord of the house, No. 122, St. John-street, Smithfield—it is in the country of Middlesex—it is not in London, middle of the year 1833—he has occupied it as my tenant ever since—I do not know who was in possession of it before, as it was empty at the time I came into possession of it—the lease was surrendered to me.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you ever see Martin Morillia there? A. I
never heard the name—I do not know Thomas Wheeler—I have only seen the prisoner when I called there for rent.
Prisoner's Defence. I am not guilty.
CHARLES BOURNE BRIND . I am a grocer and oilman, and live at No. 28, Old change. I have lately dealt considerably in waste-paper—I had a quantity from Somerset House last July and August, and among it was a ream of foolscap paper, with the stamp of the ace of spades on it—I have not got any of it with me—I believe it was sold with other paper.
COURT. Q. Do you recollect what duty was marked on them? A. No: I did not take notice.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Were they such as these (Part of the 38?) A. Yes.
COURT. Q. You cannot tell what was the duty—what do you mean by their being such as those? A. It was the ace of spades.
MR. ATTORNEY-GENERAL. Q. Look at this, should you take that for a stamp of the ace of spades? A. Yes—I bought the paper myself at Somerset House—I think I bought about eight ton of paper—it was advertised as waste paper—I should think the ream of aces of spades would weight fifteen or sixteen lbs—there was newspapers, and waste paper of different descriptions in the eight ton—I cannot tell whether there was any name on the aces of spades—they were sold to a great many parties—I think one Elliot bought 4 cwt. of the paper in September, and he had them.
(Alfred Knight, a stationer, if Basing-lane; and Thomas Wilson, a stationer, of Cheapside, gave the prisoner a good character.
GUILTY . Aged 37.— Transported for Life.
341. JAMES LUFF was indicated for stealing, on the 24th of December, from and out of the Post Office of Great Britain, a certain letter—3 other COUNTS, varying the manner of the charge—5th COUNTS, for stealing sovereign, the monies of Sarah Haverham—6th COUNTS, for stealing a sovereign, the monies of James Bristow.
MR. ATTORNEY-GENERAL declined offering any evidence on the four first Counts. the prisoner having to the three last Counts pleaded
GUILTY .— Transported for Seven Years.
Before Mr. Justice Coleridge..
342. JOSEPH WADE was indicated for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Charles Mays, about the hour of three in the night of 28th of December, at St. John, at Hackney, with intent to steal, and feloniously and burglariously stealing therein 1 dead turkey, value 10s.; 241bs. of raisins, value 12s.; 4lbs. of cake, value 2s.; and 1 bag value 8d.; his property.
CHARLES MAYS . I am a grocer and cheesmonger, and live in Well-street, in the parish of St. John, at Hackney. On Monday, the 28th of December, I went to bed about half-past ten o'clock—I was the last person up—I fastened all doors, and the windows also—I got up the next morning, about half-past seven o'clock, or a little later—it was then hardly light—I have two warehouses under the same roof as the dwelling-house—there are three doors from the warehouse to the garden—there is one door into the shop, and from the shop you go into the dwelling-house—all the three doors were fastened when I went to bed—I
left in the back warehouse that night, a turkey, a box of raisins, and 4lbs. of plum-cake—as soon as I opened the middle door in the morning, directly I was up, I missed them—the three doors were all safe—no door was meddled with at all—I found a little recess open which let the stream out from a copper which I had there—it was a little door, which had been fastened the night before, about nine inches wide, and fourteen inches long—the articles were several feet from the recess—the prisoner lives a little way from me—he came in for 1d. worth of tobacco, about half-past nine o'clock the night before—he had been a customer of mine for two or three years—I made my loss known to the police, and saw the turkey at Mr. Thornhill's, who lives very near me, at about eleven o'clock on the 29th of December—I knew it was mine, by the tie of the string—I had tied it up myself—it had come a good way out of the country—I weighed it before I lost it, and weighed 12lbs.—it weighed the same when I found it—examined the crop, and it was full, and so was the crop of the one I lost.
GEORGE ALEXANDER THORNHILL . I live at Hackney. I have known the prisoner three or four years—I saw him on the 29th of December, between eleven and twelve o'clock, in Mr. Bradshaw's field, leading from Retreat-place to Mead's-place, Hackney—he had a turkey with him—he offered it to me for sale in the field, and said he had it from the country—I said if he would come home with me I would try if I could buy it of him—he did so, and showed it me at home—he asked 5s. for it—I said I would give him 4s., and let him off 6d. which he owned me—I paid him the money, and soon afterwards he said he had some raisins to dispose of—I told him I did not do business in that way, and he left my house—I then went to my neighbours, and found the robbery out—I went to the prosecutor, and he saw the turkey while I was absent.
CHARLES MAYS re-examined. The recess goes out into my back garden—I went into the garden, after finding it open, and saw the piece of the door lying down—I could not observe any foot-marks in the garden, for it is nearly all brick—nor in my warehouse, as it is strewed with straw—I cannot tell whether the hole is large enough for the prisoner to get through—a person could not have reached them for the outside—besides, a box was removed off a basket—the prisoner had never been in the warehouse, to my knowledge.
CHRISTOPHER NORTH (police-constable N 182.) I met the prisoner, coming home, between seven and eight o'clock on the 29th of December, and said I wanted him—he asked what for—I said on a charge of stealing a turkey—he became very violent, and would not go—he caught hold of my collar, and I was obliged to get assistance to get him to the station-house.
Prisoner. You collared me—I asked you what I was to go for—you said, "When you get to the station-house I will tell you"—I said I would not go with you unless you told me what for—you put your knuckles in my throat, and I instantly did the same; and he threw me—he still had hold of me—another officer came up, and pulled out a pair of handcuffs. Witness. I acted with no degree of violence towards him—there is no other person in custody.
Prisoner's Defence. I stand in a very awkward situation—I am certainly not the perpetrator of the deed, but I suppose I must put up with it—I was at the Green Dragon, next door to the prosecutor's, which house I have used for several years past—after leaving the public-house, about
eleven o'clock, I picked up the bag; having done the wrongest thing in the world, and having committed myself most egregiously, I certainly took the bag home, and put it in the coal-hole; and the next day took it out: but, before that, I went to the Green Dragon, and never heard a sentence about the robbery—I came back again, and went back a second time—I took the turkey out in a basket, and met Mr. Thornhill—I heard of the robbery, and went home, and threw the raisins away—I have been thirty-six years in the parish and fourteen in His Majesty's service.
GUILTY of stealing only. Aged 46.—Recommended to mercy by the prosecutor.— Confined Six Months.
343. WILLIAM SUMMERS was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of May, at Saint James's Westminster, 300 sovereigns; 200 half-sovereigns; 40 crowns; 80 half-crowns; 200 shillings; and 400 sixpences; 1, 300l. banknote; 3, 200l. bank-notes; 10, 100l. bank-notes; 8, 50l. bank-notes; 7, 40l. bank-notes; 6, 30l. bank-notes; 15, 20l. bank-notes; 16, 10l. bank-notes; and 16, 5l. bank-notes; the monies and property of James Ashley and another, his masters, in their dwelling-house; to which he pleaded.
GUILTY . Aged 28.— Transported for Life.
Before Mr. Justice Coleridge.
344. DAVID HODWELL was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Harriet Hodwell, on the 13th of November, at the parish of Saint John, at Hampstead, Middlesex, and stealing therein 1 gown, value 9s.; 1 shirt, value 2s.; 1 cape, value 1s.; 1 pair of shoes, value 7s.; 1 handkerchief, value 2s.; 1 round frock, value 1s.; and 1 penknife, value 6d.; her goods.
HARRIET HODWELL . I am a widow, and live in Brewer's-lane, Hampstead. The prisoner is my late husband's own brother—there is a shed adjoining my house, and he frequently slept in that shed—there is a door between the shed and my house, which my husband had nailed up securely. On the 13th of November, I went out between ten and eleven o'clock in the morning—I left nobody at home—I fastened my doors and windows securely—I saw the prisoner at the shed door when I went out—he has slept there, but had been away for about three weeks previous to the 13th—he saw me go out—I did not speak to him—I returned at nine o'clock in the evening, and found my door as I had left it, but the inner-door, between my house and the shed, was broken open—the bottom pannel of the door was broken in, large enough for a man to creep through—I went up stairs, and found the lock wrenched off my box—I had left it locked, and left in it a gown, a cape, a shirt, a pair of shoes, a penknife, and a silk handkerchief—I had put them in myself, and locked the box that day—I had not been out for five weeks before—a small frock was taken from under the bed—all these articles were gone, an the bed was turned topsy-turvy—the prisoner was frequently in the habit of coming into my house, and coming up stairs—the box was kept behind the door.
AARON BROWN . I am an apprentice to Mr. Kimblebee, a pawnbroker, at Barnet. I know the prisoner—he came to our shop on the 13th of November, between six and seven o'clock in the evening, with a gown, a shirt, and a cape to pawn—I asked him if he pawned them for himself, and where he lived—he said, at Highwood Hill—I asked him his name—he said,
"John Barton"—I lent him 4s. on the gown, and 1s. 6d. on the shirt—I produce the articles.
RICHARD NEELD . I am a policeman. I went to Mrs. Hodwell's house on the 14th of November, and saw the bottom pannel of the shed door burst out—I did not see the prisoner till the 24th of November, when he was at the station-house at Hampstead, on this charge—I took him from the House of Correction on the 24th of December—I told him I wanted him for the Brewhouse-lane job—he asked if I had got young Rance—I said, "It is all right"—he said, "Bring him down to Albany-street, where I am going to be locked up."
Prisioner's Defence. I am innocent of every thing they have been saying.
GUILTY . Aged 23.— Transported for Life.
Before Mr. Baron Gurney.
345. JOHN BRIANT was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of December, 1 till, value 2s.; 1 money-balance, value 1s.; 3 half—crowns. 5 shilllings, 3 sixpences, 13 pence, 100 halfpence, and 9 farthings; the goods and monies of Richard Biddel.
JANE MARSH . I am sister of Richard Biddel, a baker, in Compton-street. I was at his house last Tuesday evening, at a quarter before ten o'clock—I left the shop, to go into the bakehouse, leaving a little girl, seven years old, in the shop—she called out, "Mother, mother, here is a boy taking the till"—I instantly ran up into the street, and hallooed out, "Stop thief"—I found the till was gone—I saw the prisoner in about five minutes—the policeman brought him back, with the till, containing 14s. in silver, and 5s. 10 1/4 d. in copper, and a weighing-machine—that was all in the till when it was brought back—I know the prisoner—he had been into the shop just before for some stale bread.
GEORGE HOBBY . I am a policeman. About ten o'clock at night, on the 29th of December, there was a cry of "Stop thief"—I hastened to the sound, and found the prisoner standing on the step of a door, with a till close behind him, and some silver and copper in it—I took him by the collar, and took him to the shop; the last witness recognised him as having been there before—I took him about sixty yards from the shop—the till was about a yard from him.
Prisoner. I was going home—I was not on the step of the door, nor near the shop. Witness. He was standing up at the step of the door.
GUILTY ; Aged 13.— Transported for Seven Years.
Before Mr. Justice Coleridge.
ALFRED SPRYNG . I am in the service of Mrs. Elizabeth Smith and Mrs. Simpson, shoemaker, who live in Bowser's-court, Tottenham-court-road, I know the prisoner—I saw him on the 29th of December, about six o'clock in the evening, at the shop—window, lurking about—I went and concealed myself outside; and in a minute, saw him snatch a pair of shoes from the doorway—they were about half in and half out of the shop—he ran away—I
pursued, and caught him, about a hundred yards from the shop—the shoes were in his hand—I told him he must come back with me—he said he would not do it any more, if I would let him go—I brought him back to the shop—Mrs. Simpson sent for a policeman, and gave him into custody.
(Property produced and sworn to.)
GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined Six Months.
Before Mr. Baron Gurney.
JAMES MATHIAS . I live in Nassau-street, Middlesex-hospital. On the 4th of January I lost a cat, with a collar and padlock—I saw the cat last about half-past seven o'clock in the evening—its body was produced at Marylebone-office the same evening—it was dead—I saw the collar and Padlock, and knew them to be mine.
JACOB MILLER . I am a policeman. The evening before last I went to the corner of Nassau-street, in York-street, in consequence of information, and about twenty yards from the prosecutor's I found the two prisoners together, crossing the road—on my approaching them, Hall had got a large black cat, which she dropped, and it ran away—I asked Jones what she had got in her apron—she said, "Nothing"—I put my hand into her apron, and found two cats, one dead, the other not quite dead—I asked how they came to do such a thing—she said, "We do any thing for a living"—I took them into custody, and on going to the station-house, some people asked if they were not ashamed of themselves—Jones said, "I would serve you the same, if I could catch hold of you"—On going to the station-house, I found the padlock and key in Jones's hand—I showed one of the cats to Mr. Mathias that night—it was about twenty minutes after eight o'clock—I found on Jones a painted apron, which is used for killing cats, to prevent their scratching.
Jones's Defence. It is false what the policeman says—I picked up the collar—it was bent double when I found it in Charlotte-street,
Hall's Defence. The two cats were lying in the road, and the collar by the side of them—as to a live cat being dropped by me, there was a cat run by at the time he caught hold of me—I had no black cat, nor say cat.
JONES— GUILTY . Aged. 19.
HALL— GUILTY . Aged. 22
Transported for Seven Years.
Before Mr. Justice Coleridge.
THEOPHILUS WILSON . I live with my mother, Jane Wilson, who is a widow, in Upper Charles-street—the prisoner is my brother. On Tuesday, the 22nd of December, I saw him at the house about eight o'clock in the evening—my mother was not at home—he was not living at home at the time—I let him in—he came into the parlour—my mother's watch hung
over the mantel-piece—the prisoner took it, and said he would go and set it right—he went out with it—Hannah, my eldest sister, tried to stop him, and said, "Don't take the watch"—he pushed by her, and went out—I followed him, and hallooed out, "Stop him"—he ran—a man stopped him—I came up and told him to give me the watch, or follow me and give it to my mother—he said he would follow me, but he passed the door, and asked me to come on further—I said I would not, and if he did not give it to me, I would tell the policeman—he then slipped it into my hand, and I left him—I saw him again the next day at the house—my mother was at home then—he stopped at the door, and mother told me, it he did not go away, I was to fetch a policeman—I went for one, and he was apprehended—this is the watch—I have known it ever since I have been born—it was my father's.
JOSEPH STANNARD . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner into custody on the Wednesday—he told me that he went to his mother's for some money, and she would not give him any, and on that account he took the watch.
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Six Months.
Before Mr. Baron Gurney.
JOHN THOMAS SMART . I am the son of John Smart, a brush-maker, in Great Queen-street, Lincoln's-inn-fields. Last Friday I was in my father's shop, between nine and ten o'clock in the morning—I saw the prisoner standing at one end of the window, and another man at the other end—the other took the brushes off the nail, And gave them to the prisoner, who ran up the street, putting them under his jacket into his breast—he ran down Wild-street, I ran after him, calling "Stop thief," a policeman ran after him, and then he chucked the brushes into White-horse-yard—the policeman caught him in Drury-lane—I picked up the brushes—they belong is my father—I gave them to the policeman—I am quite sure he is the person.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How old are you? A. Twelve years—The brushes were inside the door—way of the shop—I was behind the counter, at a distance from the window—I could see the prisoner standing outside—the brushes prevented my seeing him a little, but I am sure of him—I have not seen the other person since—I lost sight of the prisoner two or three minutes—there are several turnings between our shop and where he was caught—saw him taken by the policeman—the person who took the brushes was two or three yards from the prisoner—he gave them to him at the end of the window—I saw all this through the window.
COURT. Q. How near is your father's shop to Great Wild-street? A. About forty doors—it is about the middle of the street, on the right hand going from Lincoln's-inn-fields—he had to cross the road to go to Wild-street—he threw the brushes away in Stanhope-street.
HENRY LAKE . I am a policeman. I heard the alarm of "Stop thief," in Great Wild-street, and saw the prisoner running—I pursued him—he turned down White Horse-yard, into Drury-Lane, and there I caught him, and brought him back—my brother officer, to whom the boy delivered the brushes, gave them to me in the boy's presence.
Cross-examined. Q. What was he doing when you took him? A. Walking on the other side of the way—I knew him as the person I had
seen with the brushes—I never said I was not certain of him—he was running when I first saw him—I did not see him throw the brushes away.
Cross-examined. Q. How do you know them? A. By my own mark on them—the policeman and I were together when he threw them down—I was about a dozen yards from the prisoner—I saw his back—I had been him about the shop for a fortnight or three weeks before—I swear I saw him throw them down.
Prisoner's Defence. I was walking down Queen-street, looking for employment as a carpenter—I stopped accidentally to look into the shop—a man ran by me—the boy ran out and called "Stop thief"—I ran down Wild-street, up White Horse-Yard; but the brushes never were in my possession—I was standing still at the time the policeman took me into custody.
GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Four Months.
Before Mr. Justice Coleridge.
HARRIET BALLS . I am a widow, and live in Earl-street, Marylebone, and am a laundress. I have known the prisoner sixteen years. On Tuesday, the 29th of December, at ten o'clock in the morning, I saw her—she said she was very much distressed, and had had nothing to eat since Monday morning—she asked me for employment, and at one o'clock I gave her employment at my house—she washed for me in my wash-house till half past four o'clock, and then I gave her 1s. to go to her tea—I told her to go to tea, and that I was going into Charles-street, Manchester-square—she was to return after tea and proceed with the washing—she went away—I went to my tea, and went to Charles-street—I returned at half-past six o'clock, and she was not there—she had not done any thing since tea—I missed a half—mourning gown, and two sheets—I had left the gown in the garden, and the two sheets in the washhouse—she could get into the garden from the wash-house—I had seen the things safe at half-past four o'clock, after she was gone to tea—I found her bonnet in the wash-house—I had left a black silk bonnet in the wash-house myself, and that was gone—her's is a straw bonnet—I don't think there is much difference between hers and mine—I saw the gown at Mr. Gideon's, the pawnbroker's, the same evening, and one sheet also—I saw the prisoner that night at the station-house, and told her she was ungrateful to me; she said, "I am, Mrs. Balls"—I did not notice what bonnet she had on, but my black silk bonnet was on her head next day at the office.
GEORGE ALLAN . I am in the employ of Mr. Gideon, a pawnbroker, in Stafford-street, Lisson-grove. On the 29th of December the prisoner brought a sheet and gown—she first produced the sheet, and pawned it for 1s., in the name of Sophia Painter, No. I, Charles-street, lodger—she then produced a half—mourning gown—she said she wanted 2s. on it, and hoped I should not make any abatement, as she could not do with lees—she pawned it in the same name—I gave her 2s. on it—she asked our fore man if he would take any thing to drink—he said he had rather not—I did not notice whether she was sober—this was at a quarter before seven
o'clock—she went outside the door, and then she said she did not care for the policeman—in about a quarter of an hour Mrs. Balls came in, and I saw no more of the prisoner.
DAVID LYNCH . I am a policeman. On the 29th of December, I saw the prisoner cross from Gideon's, the pawnbroker's towards a public-house—she had this sheet over her arm—she came against me—I thought she was rather in liquor—she begged my pardon, and said if I would have any gin or rum to drink, she would bring it out to me—I declined, saying, I thought she had had sufficient—she did not appear to be sober—I took her in a minute or two on suspicion of stealing the sheet, and found six duplicates on her, and three keys.
(Property produced and sworn to.)
GUILTY. aged 17.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutrix, believing her to bear a good character. — Confined Three Months.
Fourth Jury, before Mr. Recorder.
NOT GUILTY .
GUILTY on 2nd COUNT . Aged 61.— Confined Twelve Months.
GUILTY .— Confined Twelve Months more.
NEW COURT.—Wednesday, January 6, 1836.
Sixth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.
354. RICHARD RANDALL was indicted for feloniously receiving, of an evil-disposed person, on the 1st of December, 26 spoons, value 12l., the goods of Charles Ridley, well knowing them to have been stolen, against the Satute, &c.; upon which no evidence was offered.
NOT GUILTY .
GUILTY . Confined Fourteen Days.
THE HON. MR. SCARLETT and MR. ELLIS conducted the Prosecution.
The prisoner came to my shop on the 22nd of December, to look at some rashers of bacon and port—she took half a pound, which came to 2 1/2d., and gave me a shilling—I suspected it, and gave it to my boy—he gave it me back—it was not out of my sight—I cut it with the cheese-knife—I asked where she had it from, and said it was bad—she said it was a good one, and she had it from some neighbour at Covent-garden—she had it back again from me.
JAMES BARRETT . I am servant to Mr. Howell. I followed the prisoner from the shop—she went into a tobacconists in High-street, where a boy, named Orchard, was serving—I saw the prisoner put down a shilling—Orchard looked at it—I then went in, and told him that she had tried to pass a bad shilling at our shop before Orchard rang the bell for his master, who came, and sent for a policeman, and gave her in charge—he said, "Have you any more about you?"—she was busy doing something to about her shawl, and dropped five shillings—I heard them drop—they dropped close to her—there was no one so near them as she was.
Prisoner. They dropped behind me, and the policeman was facing me.
Witness. I cannot exactly say whether it was before or behind her.
JOSEPH ORCHARD . I am errand-boy to Mr. Rushless, of No. 6, High-street, St. Giles's. I saw the prisoner come in, about ten o'clock—she asked for a quarter of an ounce of tobacco, and she gave me a counterfeit shilling—I told her it was a bad one—she said she did not believe it—the witness came in about that time, and said she tried to pass a bad one at his master's—I bit the shilling, and rang the bell for my master—I gave it to him—he sent me for a policeman, who came—I was behind the counter, facing the prisoner, when these five shillings dropped—nobody was between me and her—they seemed to drop from her shawl—when the policeman came to search her, she was busy about her bosom, the five shillings dropped near her feet, not a quarter of a yard from her—the other persons were not nearer than one yard—they seemed to drop more before than behind her—I should say they could not drop from any body else.
JOHN RUSHLESS . I am Orchard's master. I came into the shop, and received a shilling from him—when the officer came, I gave him the shilling, and told him she tried to pass it—he began to search her, and five more bad shillings dropped—I have no doubt that they dropped from her—I do not think any one else could have dropped them.
Prisoner. Q. Did you mark the shilling at that time? A. My boy marked it before he gave it to the policeman, and it had the same mark on it when it was given to me again.
COURT. Q. Did the money drop from before or behind her? A. It was before her—there was a person behind her, but I am most certain it dropped from her.
Re-examined. Q. You took this shilling from the boy? A. Yes, and handed it to the policeman—I noticed it—I did not mark it then, but I did the same evening when she was given in charge.
RICHARD ETHERIDGE (police-constable E 163.) I took the prisoner in Rushless' shop, and got one shilling from him—I have kept it ever since—I asked the prisoner whether she had got any more—she said, "No"—I said then, "Let me see," and put my hand towards her, under her shawl, and some shillings dropped from her left side—I was in front of her—they dropped apparently on the left side in front—I think the nearest person was a yard from her—I had my eye on her, and saw them drop—her hands were under her shawl the instant they dropped—here are the six shillings.
Shillings. Q. Was not the money thrown behind me, when I was speaking to you, and you came round me, on the right side? Witness. I saw it drop—there was some under her feet, and some behind her—I am able to swear that they dropped from her.
Prisoner. I did not have them.
GUILTY . Aged 30.— Confined One Year.
HENRY SAUNDERS . I am servant to Mr. Lupton, a grocer, in Northempton-street, Clerkenwell. On the evening of the 16th December, the prisoner came to my master's shop for an ounce of coffee, and offered me a bad shilling—I returned it to her, and told her I would chop it—she begged me not to chop it, because she took it with two others, of her master, for work—she went away—my master came in and followed her.
CHARLES LUPTON . I am Saunders' master. I followed the prisoner—she met a man about two hundred yards from my house—he was dressed in a butcher's frock—she said something to him—they walked then to a window—I saw him put his hand into his pocket, and draw out some money, and give to her—she then seemed to count it, and put it into her pocket—the man turned round—he recognised me, and called to the prisoner—he ran away—she followed quickly after him, not hearing exactly what he said—I followed her; but the policeman saw her, and took her—she then thrust her hand under her clothes, and squatted on the ground—her hand was under her clothes for three minutes, I should think—she was then forced into the public-house, and the policeman searched her.
Prisoner. You said that you saw him put money into my hand, which was impossible for you to tell, as it was wrapped up in a cloth—the woman at the station-house begged me to give it her, and said it would fare better with me—my shawl fell off in the street, and the policeman took hold of me—I said, "I am picking up my shawl"—he said, "Never mind your shawl"—as soon as the man saw him coming, he put the money into my hand, and ran away. Witness. I did not see the money myself—he apparently took money out of his pocket; and I saw her apparently turning the money over in her hand, and I saw something pass from the man to her—I cannot swear it was money—what he gave her, was put into her hand; she turned it to the light, and looked at it.
JAMES NIMMINO (police-constable.) I took the prisoner, and searched her, as far as deceney would permit—she was some time before she would allow me to put my hand into her pocket—I found nothing on her—she was taken to the station-house, and Mrs. Street searched her—I received from her five bad shillings, a good sixpence, sixpence-farthing in copper, and a cloth—she said, in the prisoners's presence, that she took it from her person—this is the money.
Prisoner. The man states that I squatted on the ground—I stooped to pick up my shawl; and he said, "Never mind your shawl, you can get it again." Witness. You had a shawl.
SARAH STREET . I live at No. 12, Plumber's-place, opposite the police station-house—I was called in to search the prisoner—I found on her five bad shillings, one good sixpence, and 6 1/4 d. in copper—I gave it to the officer—she told me her reason for doing it was, that she had a husband and three children at home starving—I had a great deal of trouble—she was very obstinate, I thought I should be obliged to call the policemen in—I knew she had it about her.
MR. FIELD. These shillings are all counterfeit, and all from the same mould.
Prisoner. I was out, and a man asked me to go into the shop for an ounce of coffee, and said he would give me something for getting it—I went—the had said the shilling was not good—I said, "Do not cut it, I can have it changed"—I crossed over to the man, and said, "This is not good"—he took it from me, rubbed it against the window, and said, "It is a good one"—he turned round, and must have seen this man—he then pushed this sloth into my hand, and ran away—the man came and took me, and said to the policeman, "If you search this woman, you will find bad money"—I had no intention to utter them.
GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined One Year.
GEORGE GILES . I am a farmer, and live a Chobham, in Surrey. On Wednesday, the 23rd of December, at three o'clock in the morning, I was at Covent-garden, selling holly—the prisoner purchase six bundles—they came to half a crown—he gave me a half-crown, and went away with the holly—I took notice or the half-crown directly—I had not mixed it with other money—while I was looking at it, Dawes the porter came up—he said, "That is bad"—we went after the prisoner, and took him—I gave the same half-crown to the porter—I was not very near when the prisoner talked to Dawes about it—he said he did not deny but that it was a bad one—I had two good half-crowns, but I did not mix this with them.
Prisoner. Q. Who was the first person you gave the half-crown to? A. To Dawes—I did not give it to a man with a stick—that was another half-crown.
JOSEPH DAWES . I am a porter a Covent-garden. On the 23rd of December, Giles gave me a counterfeit half-crown—I asked whom he took it of—he said, "Of a man, for six bundles of holly, and he is gone that way"—I said, "Come with me"—I took the prisoner by the collar—I said, "what do you mean by this, giving my master bad money?"—he said, "I know that I gave him a bad one, here is a good one for it"—I said, "I will not let you go, I know you must have some more," and while I was taking him over to a policeman, he chucked some money into his mouth—I tried to get it from him, but he swallowed it—when the policeman got him to the Piazza, against the Tavistock Hotel, he kicked me on the ancle—I knocked him down, and tried to get the money from him, but I could not, he swallowed it—the counterfeit half-crown, and the good half-crown which the prisoner gave me, I gave to the policeman—two base half-crowns dropped from him, which the policeman picked up.
Prisoner. I said I gave him a half-crown, and was not aware it was a bad one; but I said, "Here is another for it." Witness. You said you gave him a bad one.
THOMAS SIMMONDS (police-constable F 152.) I took the prisoner into custody—Dawes said, "I give this man into custody for passing a bad half-crown to my master"—I caught him—Dawes gave a bad half-crown and a good one into my hand—just as the prisoner was rising off she ground, I heard something fall on the pavement, like money—my brother officer took it up.
DANIEL EELLET MITCHELL (police-constable F 76.) I went to assist Simmonds—Dawes and my brother officer were scuffling to get something from the prisoner, and as he was turning about to get loose, something dropped—I stooped, and took from under his side these two half-crowns—I marked them, and have kept them ever since—I went with him to the station-house,
and while the inspector was taking the charge, he said he knew that he had one had half-crown, but he did not intend to pass it, and where the other two came from he did not know.
Prisoner. You stated before that you could not say they came from me. Witness. I am satisfied they could not come from any body else.
MR. FIELD. I am an inspector of counterfeit coin. These are all three counterfeits, and this one is good—the one said to be uttered, and one of the other two, are from the same mould.
Prisoner. I had two half-crowns in my pocket—I said to the prosecutor, "Will you sell me three bundles?"—he said, "Yes, for 1s. 6d."—I said, "1s. 3d."—he said, "No"—a man told me to buy six, which I did, for 2s. 6d.—he gave the half-crown I gave him to a man in a brown coat with a stick—he said it was good—I was going on, and this man came and took me—I had no money into my mouth—they put a stick in my mouth, and nearly strangled me—I never had the other two—I opened my mouth as wide as I could, and they put a stick down my throat.
GUILTY . Aged 40.— Confined One Year.
359. JAMES CLUNEY was indicted for stealing, on the 16th of December, 1 seal, value 1l. 5s.; 1 watch-key, value 15s.; 1 slide, value 10s,; and 1 split ring, value 10s.; the goods of Solomon Cook, from his person; and that he had been before convicted of felony.
SOLOMON COOK . I am a modeller of ships, and live at No. 29, Brunswick-street, Black wall. I was in the Commercial-road on the 16th of December, about half-past eight o'clock—I got to Dean-street, when the prisoner, whom I had never seen before, came up to me, and put his shoulder against me with the intent to heave me down—I did not say a word—I looked at him steadfastly in the face, so that I know him again—the other person who was in company with him shoved him against me, so that I should have fallen if I had not resisted—when they found they could not heave me down, the prisoner took hold of my seal and key—as soon as I saw his hand take hold of them, I put my right hand against my watch, and he ran off with the seal, key, ring, slide, and riband—the riband was fixed to the watch—the ring of the watch broke—they both ran down Dean-street—I followed the prisoner and sung out, "Stop Thief"—he ran down John-street, and was taken at last—I am sure he is the man—I can swear to him by looking so hard at him at the time.
Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. What sort of night was this? A. Very foggy—the shoving lasted about a quarter of a minute—they appeared, when I first saw them, to be arm in arm—I first saw them at the lower part of the opening—I saw them perhaps for a minute—I had been at Mr. Holland's—I was quite sober—I lost sight of the prisoner for a quarter of a minute—he has about three minutes away from me—I did not stop him myself—I do not know whether I could see twenty yards before me—he was at first close to me, but while running he was perhaps twice the length of this court from me—he returned down two turnings and part of another—I never saw my seal again.
RICHARD ELLIOTT . I am a tailor, and live in Tarling-street, Commercial-road. About half-past eight o'clock on that evening I heard a cry of "Stop thief"—I proceeded from the corner of Sidney-street to Dean-street, where I saw the prisoner running—there was no one before him—I pursued him half-way down Dean-street; and by the direction that he took, I knew he would come up the other way—I proceeded up the Commercial-road, and
caught him as he was turning the corner of Watney-street—I am sure he is the person I saw run—he said, when I stopped him, "What have I done?"—I said, "I don't know"—the prosecutor came up, and said, "He has robbed me of a gold seal"—the prisoner made no answer—the policeman came up, and the prosecutor gave him into custody—he was taken to the station-house—on the road he made use of very bad expressions, and said, if he had his hand at liberty, he would make me remember it, and he gave me a violent kick.
Cross-examined. Q. Where were you? A. At the corner of Sidney-street—I went direct to Dean-street, which leads into the Commercial-road—Watney-street and Dean-street are both on the same side of the way—there is no street between them—I was about ten yards from the prisoner—it was not very foggy—I could see a hundred yards at half-past eight o'clock—the prisoner was coming into the Commercial-road when I caught him—I first saw him in Dean-street, and I caught him at the corner of Watney-street—I lost sight of him, and saw him for about two minutes in Dean-street—I am sure he is the same person.
WILLIAM DERRICK . (police-constable K 218.) I was on duty, and heard the cry of "Stop thief"—I saw the prisoner running up Watney-street—I ran to the corner, and saw him stopped by Elliott—the prosecutor was running after him—I got hold of the prisoner—he said, "What have I done? I have done nothing"—I told him to wait a minute, there would be some one there—the prosecutor came up in about a minute, and gave him into custody for robbing him of a gold seal, key, ring, and slide, attached with a black ribbon—I took him to the station-house, and found 4s. 4d. on him.
Cross-examined. Q. You did not find the seal nor ribbon? A. No; I was about ten yards from him at the time he was stopped, and on the same side of the way—I was near to Watney-street, in the Commercial-road—I saw him turning the corner from Watney-street, where he was taken—it was foggy—I could see about fifty yards—there is a gas-lamp at the corner of Dean-street, and a lamp in a shop at the corner of Watney-street.
JOSEPH HAMMOND . I am a police-sergeant. The prisoner was brought into the station-house—he said he was innocent, and refused to give his name and address—this watch was produced from the prosecutor's fob—it has the guard broken.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you hear the trial? A. Yes; I gave evidence.
Prisoner's Defence. The prosecutor states that it was light at the corner of this street where he was robbed, and I have got a witness to prove that there was no light—he states he could see me by a light from a shop window—there was no light.
MR. PAYNE to WM. DERRICK. Q. What street is the shop at the corner of? A. Watney-street and Dean-street—both have gas-lights in them—there is gas near the corner of the street—there is sufficient light from the shops to see a person.
JOHN CLUNEY . I am the prisoner's father. There is no light at the corner of this street—there is a doctor's shop seventeen yards down from the corner, and a small window, which would show no light at the
corner—at that corner there is no light in the Commmercial-road—the light is seventeen yards down Dean-street, which cannot throw any light into the Commercial-road—there is another doctor's shop at the corner of Watney-street, which is situated the same way—there is no light shines from either of these streets into the Commercial-road—I went there yesterday and the day before.
SOLOMON COOK re-examined. Q. You stated that you looked at him steadfastly, are you able positively to swear he is the man that forced the chain from you? A. Yes, positively—it was taken from me on the pavement in the Commercial-road—there was a light, which enabled me to see him, out of a doctor's shop at the corner of Dean-street—it is the corner house—the light which shone on his face was not from the Commercial-road, but down the street—I cannot say whether it was seventeen yards down—it was sufficient for me to see him.
(John Nind, of Kingsland, gave the prisoner a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported foe Fourteen Years.
CHARLES BAGLEY . I live in Pitfield-street, and am a shoemaker, in the employ of my brother James—I was in the shop on the 2nd of January, but did not miss these shoes till they were brought back—these are my masters.
GEORGE KEMP (police-constable N 82.) On Saturday evening I was in Pitfield-street. I saw the prisoner with two others loitering about the shoemaker's shop—I saw the prisoner go inside the prosecutor's door, and take these shoes and run away with them—I pursued him—he threw them down—I took them up—he was stopped by a gentleman, and took him.
Prisoner. I was coming down the street, and looked into the window—I crossed and ran, being cold—the policeman caught me.
Witness. I saw him go inside and take them—I saw him chuck then away—I never lost sight of him.
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined for Six Months.
THOMAS GOLDING . I am a farmer's man, in the employ of Mr. Hunt, of Hayes. On the 18th of December, I was going home from work, and overtook the prisoner—I did not know her before she asked me how far it was from Uxbridge—I said four miles—she rolled up against me, and put her hand into my pocket, and took the shilling—I had my hand in my waist, coat pocket—we had not been talking at all—the shilling was in my lefthand trowsers pocket—it was unbuttoned—I was not standing still till the took the shilling—I stood about a minute, then I asked her for the shilling—she would not give it me, but told me to get away—I caught hold of her band—I had not been playing with her—she fell in the struggle, and called Scott, a man that was a little way before her—he was coming back, and then she hallooed "Murder," and the petrol came up.
Prisoner. Q. Did not you give it me for a certain purpose, and while we were talking, you pushed me down, and I called "Murder?" A. No—she took it from my pocket—she cried out first after she was down, after she fell—I had just overtaken her.
five o'clock in the evening—I had seen the prisoner and prosecutor before, and the other man—I passed the lane and saw the mass at the time—I went on, and saw the prosecutor and prisoner standing stills, and did not hear any noise, nor see any struggle—I passed on fifty yards—I heard screams of "Murder" from a woman—I rode back, and asked what was the matter—the man was coming up from the end of the lane—the woman said the prosecutor was ill-using her; he said he was not she had robbed him—I took her and the man into custody, but the man was discharged; he said she belonged to him.
Prisoner's Defence. I was going on the road to Liverpool, with my cousin Scott—I went into a beer-shop to ask if I could get a bed there—this young man overtook me, and he offered me the shilling for a certain purpose, which I would not allow, and then he demanded the shilling back—I would not give it him, and he said I had robbed him.
362. CHARLES SELLICK was indicted for stealing on the 29th of December, 1 plane, value 2s., the goods of George Hunt; also on the 16th of December, 1 plane, value 3s., the goods of Francis Perryman; and on the 18th of December, 2 planes, value 2s. 6d., the goods of John Lowe; to which indictments he pleaded
GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined One Month, and twice Whipped.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Two Months.
GEORGE ELLIS (police-constable C 66.) On the 30th of December, at half-past eleven o'clock in the forenoon, I met the prisoner in the Seven Dials—I observed this pair of shoes under his jacket, and asked where he got them—he said he bought them of a lad for 10d.—I took him.
Prisoner's Defence. I earned 1s. for carrying a gentleman's luggage; I then went on, and young lad said I might have these shoes for 10d., they were his own making.
GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Six Months.
WILLIAM HOYTE . I live in White Lion-street, Pentonville, and am a milkman. I had a till in my shop—I saw it safe at half-past twelve o'clock on the 31st of December, and missed it about half-past one o'clock—there was from 30s. to 2l. in it; in shillings, sixpences, half-crowns, and copper—this is it.
JOHN BIRD . I live in Rodney-street, and am a milkman. On the 31st of December, at a quarter before two o'clock, I saw the prisoner and some other boys at the back of the White Conduit-house—the prisoner had this
till—I took the prisoner and the till—it had 1l. 0s. 6 1/2d. in money in it—he said two boys gave it him, and they said if any body came he was to put it down.
GUILTY .* Aged 14.— Transported for Seven Years.
JOSEPH THOMAS IRELAND . I am porter to Messrs. Thomas and William Finch; they are grocers, in Old Compton-street, Soho. On the 22th of December, they had three boxes of raisins, and a half-box—I saw them all safe about half-past seven o'clock that evening—one of the boxes and the half-box were afterwards taken away—the policeman brought back the prisoner and this box by particular marks at the end of it.
WILLIAM WILLIAMS . I live with my father, who is a wheel wright, is Rose-street, Soho. About ten minutes after eight o'clock, on the 22d of December, I saw the prisoner and two other young men at the prosecutor's window—the biggest took a box of raisins, and handed them to the second who handed them to the prisoner, who walked away with them—I followed him till I saw a policeman, who took him.
Prisoner's Defence. A man offered me sixpence to carry this to Seven-dials—I carried it to Castle-street; and when I went to turn, to ask the man which way I was to turn, the policeman took me.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Three Months.
PATRICK MANNING . I live in Church-street, St. Giles's. On the 24th of December, I was lodging with the prisoner, who keeps a lodging-house—there were seven or eight other persons in the room where I lodged—I went to bed between eleven and twelve o'clock—the prisoner was then in the room, and the seven or eight other persons—I pulled off my clothes—I had a half-sovereign, and the other money, safe in my trowsers pocket—I put my trowsers under the bolster—I got up between nine and ten o'clock in my morning, and my money was gone.
Prisoner. You know when you got up you found a hole in your trowsers pocket—you said the money had fallen on the floor, and you took a broom and swepty. Witness. I swept the floor, but there was no hole in my pocket.
Prisoner. You sent out for a deal of liquor that night, and was drunk at the same time; and I said, the next day, that if you missed a halfsovereign, you must have sent it down in mistake. Witness. you did say so.
ELIZABETH DOWNES . I am the wife of Daniel Downes, a tailor. I lodged with the prisoner—I remember the prosecutor's coming home—he went to bed with his wife—I afterwards saw the prisoner go to his bed-side, and kneel down—his trowsers were on the bloster out side—she had her hand in the pocket of them—I went and asked what she was doing—she said she was looking for a flat-iron—I told her she could
not find it—I took her a light—I saw her hand was in the pocket, and I heard the money rattle—I took the candle back, set it on the table, and I sat down by the fire—the prisoner then came, and whispered something to a man by the fire—I said, "I know what you say"—she said, "Did you see my hand in his pocket?"—I said, "Yes"—"she said, "I went to get something; all I could get was seven-pence.
Prisoner. Are you not ashamed to be telling such lies? you know you were drunk, and fighting. Witness. I am not telling lies—the man who was in the room knows the same—I was at home all the time with my baby—we were not fighting—I have had no quarrel with the prisoner.
Prisoner's Defence. I had a cap to iron—this man and his wife were in bed—I said, "I don't know where this man put the iron"—I went down on my knees, and she held the candle—I found sixpence, and a pennypiece—I said to the man, "We will spend it, as we have got it;" and we did—I would have sent to him, but could not get paper.
JURY to PATRICK MANNING. Q. Was Downes sober? A. Yes; but the prisoner was drunk.
NOT GUILTY .
ALEXANDER KING . I am apprentice to Mr. Robert Affleck, a bootmaker, in Red Lion-street. On the 4th of January I heard a noise at the shop door, and a person gave me some information—I ran out, and saw the prisoner walking away—I overtook him, with a pair of boots under his coat—he threw them down, and ran away—I took them up—they are my master's I am sure the prisoner is the man.
Prisoner's Defence. I heard a cry of "Stop thief.," and saw the people running, and I ran with them the way that the person (whoever he was) had gone—I never had the boots in my possession.
GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Months.
DAVID COSTER . I am in the employ of Mr. Joseph Wallace; he keeps a shop in Silver-street, Stepney. The prisoner came there about six o'clock on the 29th of December—I knew her before—she asked me for three pair of half-boots, two children's and one woman's—she said my master was at her house, and had sent her for them—I asked if she was sure of it, as I knew he was gone into the City—she said, "Yes"—I let her have the, and went to her house in half an hour, to see if they fitted, and found she had left her husband for a week—he sent me to a gin-shop, where I found her—she had pledged the boots—these are them.
ELIZABETH JORDAN . On the 30th of December I met the prisoner, and she told me to take these boots, and get 3s. 6d. on them—I went to Aaron's—they would only lend half-a-crown—I went and told her so, and she told me to take it—I gave her the half-crown, and the ticket.
Prisoner's Defence. I asked if he had a pair of boots which would fit me and my little boy—I said I would take two pair to my little boy, and I
would keep one pair, and return the other; and they would have been returned in the morning, but I owed a little money, and was afraid of my husband knowing it.
GUILTY . Aged 35.— Confined Three Months.
WILLIAM GRAVENOR . I live in Ratcliffe, and am a shoemaker. I had a pair of shoes hanging on the iron rail in my shop, on Saturday night, the 2nd of January—the policeman brought them to me—these are them—they were tied to the iron rail—he could not get them but by jumping up and breaking the string.
JAMES ROOKE (police-constable K 245.) About half—past ten o'clock observed the prisoner and two more standing outside a public—house—the prisoner turned from his companions, and went to the prosecutor's shop—he jumped up, snatched down the pair of boots, and put them under the jacket, under his arm—I took him into the shop—in going to the station-house he made a desperate resistance, and threw me twice—I found on his a curb chain.
Prisoner. The officer was at my friend's on Sunday, and was drinking with them—my father and mother were with him, and he went to my matter—he told my friends he would say nothing about it. Witness. I did not drink with his friends—I went and inquired about his character—he sprung up, and took the boots—I was not two feet from him—if he had turned to the right instead of the left, he must have come into my arms.
Prisoner's Defence. I left my friends, and went to the shop—I saw boy jump up and cut them down—they were on the ground—I took these up, and looked at them.
GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Six Months.
371. GEORGIANA TAYLOR was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of December, 1 frock, value 3s.; 1 parasol, value 4s.; 1 bonnet, value 5s.; 1 petticoat, value 3s.; 1 shift, value 2s.; 1 apron, value 1s.; 2 blankets, value 6s., and 1 quilt, value 4s.; the goods of Elizabeth Newman.
ELIZABETH NEWMAN . I am single, and lodge in Parrot's-court, Marylebone—I work as a dress—maker, in Edward-street. I met the prisoner three weeks ago in Castle-street, Leicester—square—I met her a second time—she then said as her sister was going to Windsor she would come to lodge with me, and pay half the rent—she came, and paid the first weak. but no more—on the 29th of December I went to the King's Head, a Knightsbridge—she met me there, and we staid there all the evening—I came home with her, and missed a counterpane and blanket—I said, "Where are they?"—she said she had pledged them, and if I would go to her friends the next morning, they would pay me—I then missed my parasol—I went with her the next morning down Albany-Road, Walworth—she went to a shop, and told me to come in—I went, in she ran out, and I saw no more of her till she was in the station—house—I found the tickets of these things pushed under my door on Friday morning—on the Saturday morning, before I was up, I heard a cough, which I knew was hers—I get
up—she ran away—I gave information, and she was afterwards taken mitting on the steps of No. 12.
CHRISTOPHER GROVES . I am a pawnbroker, and live at No. 8 Bullstrode-street. I produce a parasol, which I did not take in and a petticoat, shift, and handkerchief—I took in a silk dress, and source other things, from the prisoner.
Prisoner. She took part of the money for every thing except the two blankets, the quilt, and frock.
Prosecutrix. I did not—I did not miss the parasol till the next day.
GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined Six Months.
SARAH FREEMAN . I am a widow, and live in Upper Cornwall-street. I knew the prisoner about two years ago—I was nursing at a house and left her in care of my house and children—on Thursday, the 28th of December, she brought me the key of my house, and told me she was going to Gravesend—I asked her now she could leave my place and children—she said she had pledged my bed for half a guinea, she was very sorry for it, and must go to Gravesend to get money to redeem it—I told her I could not let her go out of my sight—I told my mistress, and she let me come out directly, and the prisoner was gone to a beer—shop—I asked them to give as eye to her—I went home, and my bed was gone—I gave her in charge that night.
Prisoner. She has sent me to pledge her work several times—she told me to pledge any thing in her place belonging to her, and to do the best I could. Witness. No, I did not—I never authorised her to pledge the bed.
Prisoner. She has given me her large blanket many a time of pledge to work home, to take it to the warehouse, and get it out again, and the blanket which was her lodger's, I pledged several times.
GUILTY . Aged 49.— Confined Two Months.
MARY ANN IVIMEY . I am the wife of John Ivimey, we live at Shad well. On the 2nd of January these trowsers hung at the door, inside—I missed them about five o'clock—they have the shop—ticket on them now.
JOHN MURRAY (police-constable K 178.) I saw the prisoner, and two other boys, in High-street, Shadwell—at twenty minutes past five o'clock, looking in at the prosecutor's shop—window—the prisoner then took these trowsers from a hook inside the door—he gave them a shake, and was about to hand them to another, lad, when Caroline Cook came by, he then put them down under the window, and Cook took them up—I went and took the prisoner.
Prisoner's Defence. There was a bill in a corn-chandler's window—I thought it was a bill for an errand—boy—I went past, saw these trowsers hanging at the door, and the legs were two inches outside—the officer told the inspector that they were inside the window.
GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined Six Months.
JAMES HALL . I keep a poulterer's shop in St. John-street, Clerkenwell. I had a dead goose on my stall-board on the 29th of December—I missed it in five minutes—I saw it again at the station-house—this is the foot of it.
JOHN JAMES BERNARD (police-constable G110.) I was on duty about two o'clock, in St. John-street, and saw the prisoner run down Aylesbury-street—I thought he had stolen something, and pursued him—he fell down, and dropped the goose—I took him and the goose to the station-house, and the prosecutor identified it.
GUILTY . Aged 12.— Confined Three Months.
GUILTY . Aged 36.— Confined Six Months.
Fifth Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.
ALEXANDER COWAN. I am a salesman, and live in Aylesbury-street On the 5th of January I was in the parlour—Coleman came in, and said a man, in a brown coat, had taken a pair of boots—I went out, and saw the prisoner—he ran down two or three streets—when I came near him, he dropped the boots—I took them up, and called, "Stop thief"—some gentleman stopped him—these are my boots—they were inside my door twisted round a nail.
(George Squires, an eating-house keeper, gave the prisoner a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 15.— Confined Six Weeks.
WILLIAM BAKER . I live at Wilsden. I saw the prisoner, and a lesser boy, on the 28th of December, in one of the fields in my father's farm, picking up bones; and when parsons came in, he said he had lost his jacket—I went out, and saw the prisoner and a little boy—the prisoner had a bag, in which was the jacket—it had been on a bank in the field.
SAMUEL PARSONS . I was at work on the farm—I took off my jacket, and missed it about ten minutes before twelve o'clock—I had seen the prisoner in the field just before—this is my jacket—this handkerchief is another man's, but was in my pocket.
Prisoner's Defence. I picked it up under the hedge, by the side of the road.
GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Three Months.
MARY SHARMAN . I am the wife of Thomas Sharman—we live in Wood-street, Cromer-street. We let a furnished room to the prisoner in the latter part of September, for half-a-crown a week—she paid me regularly till the last three weeks—I went into her room on Friday, and missed a blanket—I spoke to her about it—she said she had made use of one; and the policeman found the duplicate on her—she came to me as a respectable woman out of place, and at first conducted herself well.
Prisoner. I was distressed—I told my landlady I would redeem it.
GUILTY. Aged 25.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined Fourteen Days'
STEPHEN FARMER (police-constable T 72.) I was on duty at Ealing and met the prisoner, on the 29th of December, about half-past seven o'clock in the evening, in Old Brentford, about there miles and a half from Mr. Street's, carrying a basket on his shoulder—I asked what he had got—he made no answer, but dropped the basket on the pavement—he attempted to run away—I took him, and found this lead in the basket.
THOMAS ROSE . I am in the service of Thomas Street, Esq.—he lives at Ealing. He had a pump in his stable-yard—it was safe on Tuesday week, and this day week it was gone—I have fitted this lead to the pump—it had been taken from there—it corresponded in all respectes—I have no doubt it is the lead of the pump.
Prisoner. He said, when I was taken, that he could not swear to it, and the policeman said he must swear—they remanded me till the next day—then he came and said he could swear to it—Mr. Street has been transported for life.
GUILTY . Aged 22.— Transported for Seven Years.
MARY ANN SEAMOUR . I live with Thomas Willocks, in Wentworth-street Whitechapel—he lets lodgings by the night. On the 23rd of December, the prisoner had a lodging there—she had lodged there before—she went away in the morning about nine o'clock—I missed a blanket and a counterpane from different rooms—not the room she had slept in—these are them—they are my master's—she paid 1s. for her lodging.
GUILTY . Aged 26. Transported for Seven Years.
381. BRIDGET MURPHY was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of December, 2 sheets value 10s.; the goods of George Barrett Gooding, her master; and HANNAH LEE for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing them to have been stolen, against the Statue, &c.
GEORGE BARRETT GOODING . I live in Queen-street, Soho, and am a licensed victualler. Murphy lived with me about a fortnight, and left me the day after Christmas day—in consequence of something the policeman said, I searched about, and missed this pair of sheets—there is my name is full on them—these are the sheets which I missed—I do not know Lee at all.
SAMUEL BOWLES . I am a police-constable. I had information, and went to Hannah Lee's last Thursday morning, the 31st of December, at No. 4, Cowheel-alley, Whitecross-street—I found her at home—I told her I had got information that she had a pair of sheets which did not belong to her—she said she had none but her own—I said, "Have you any persons lodging here?"—she said, "No one my children"—I said, "Had you not a young woman lodging here, who lived in Soho?"—she denied it—at last, a little boy said, "There was Biddy Murphy"—I then went to the prosecutor—I went and took Murphy, who acknowledged to me that she had taken a pair of sheets from the prosecutor—I took her to Lee's—she begged her to give them up—Lee said, "I have not got them; I put them down the gully-hole"—Murphy begged her to give them up—at last she said, "Stop, I will give them to you," and pulled them from the coal-hole, under some shavings and wood.
Lee's Defence. I stand in the street, and do not go home till very late—and one night this young woman was there—she brought the sheets with some dirty clothes—she told me they were her own—she then got a place in the Old Bailey—I came with her, and brought her box—I did not do any thing with the sheets—I left them there—I denied this to the policeman, but they were safe—I did not know but that they were her own—I have two children without a father.
MURPHY— GUILTY . Aged 22.
LEE— GUILTY .† Aged 48.
Transported for Seven Years.
382. MARIA WOOD and ELIZABETH BLAKE were indicted for stealing, on the 12th of December, 1 watch, value 2l.; 1 watch-key, value 3s.; 1 watch-chain, value 1s.; 1 pair of shoes, value 5s.; 1 hat, value 2s.; 1 handkerchief, value 6d.; 1 half-sovereign; 1 half-crown; and 5 shillings; the goods and monies of William Brittle, from his person.
WILLIAM BRITTLE . I am a slop-cutter, and live in Manchester-street, Waterloo-town, Bethnal-green—I am a married. On the 12th of December I found myself in Wentworth-street—I was in a state of intoxication—I cannot say what time it was—it was after seven o'clock at night—I cannot say, how I got into a house in Wentworth-street, but I recollect being in a house, and the two prisoners were there—Blake called a woman, named Simpson, and asked me to give them some money, to get something to eat and drink—Simpson was to get it—Blake called her "mother"—I gave her some coppers out of my pocket—when she was gone, I fell asleep, and when I awoke there was no light in the room—my bat was off my head—I could not find it—on looking across the room, I saw there was a bedstead, and heard persons talking below stairs—I threw myself on the foot of the bedstead, thinking some persons would come up, and this Hannah Simpson came up stairs—I jumped up and caught her hand, and she was taken up—she said, if I came on the Monday evening, she would point out the person who robbed me—I got up, and got home as well as I
could—I know I had two half-sovereigns in my right-hand waistcoat pocket, and a half-crown, and some other money, and my watch—I had lost all—I had been with several friends at the Bell-tavern Aldgate, and had dined there.
WILLIAM ROWLAND . I am an officer. On the 14th of December I was on duty in Wentworth-street—I overheard Simpson charging Blake with having robbed the man—Simpson said she had been charged with it, and suffered for it, and she was determined she would tell of Blake—Wood was not there at that time—I went to a house, where my brother officer took Wood—she voluntarily admitted to me, that she had taken the watch out of the man's fob, and given it to a man named Jack—and she said so before the magistrate—Blake said, she said, she had nothing to do with robbing the man; she only had half-a-crown of the money.
Cross-examined by MR. DUNBAR. Q. Were you present at the examination? A. Yes; I saw the clerk writing—I did not stats what they had admitted to me.
MAURICE MOLOY . I am an officer. I took Wood—she was pointed out to me by Blake—I took her before the magistrate—she made no confession to me but what she made at the office—I do not know whether the magistrate took down what she said.
HENRY SEWARD . I am porter at the London Hotel, Albemarle-street—prisoner was the chambermaid. On the 29th of December I missed a handkerchief—I cannot say whether it was in the kitchen or my bed-room—I said I had lost one—I found it at the pawnbroker's—the prisoner had lived there a fortnight nearly—I had been there longer—this is my handkerchief—I did not give it her.
Prisoner. I picked it up outside the door, and pledged it—if you had mentioned it to me, I would have given it up to you.
Witness. I asked her about it, as well as the rest—when I was going to the justice's room, the prisoner said, "Do not say any thing about the handkerchief."
Prisoner's Defence. I was very much distressed, and did pledge the handkerchief, not knowing it was any one's—I found it outside the door.
384. WILLIAM BERKELY was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of January, 1 coat, value 2l.; 1 pair of trowsers, value 1l.; 2 waistcoats, value 10s.; 1 shirt, value 2s.; 2 handkerchiefs, value 2s.; and 1 halfpenny; the goods of James Shrimpton: and 1 violin, value 25s.; 1 violin bow, value 5s.; and 1 bag, value 6d.; the goods of Charles Garwood; and 1 gun, value 1l., the goods of Arthur Eden.
JAMES SHRIMPTON . I am an under gardener to Mr. Eden, of Bowlinggreen House, Putney-heath. On the 5th of January, I had my coat trowsers, waistcoat, shirt, and handkerchief, and halfpenny, in the garden-house,
where I sleep—I saw them safe at one o'clock in the day—there was a violin there, which belonged to Mr. Charles Garwood, and the gun belonged to my master, Arthur Eden—I had information, and went to the room a little after two o'clock—it was then broken open, and the things gone—I got information, and traced the prisoner seven miles, to Brentford, at half-past four o'clock—I was present when he was taken by the constable—saw the bundle on him—this is my property.
Prisoner. Q. Did you know John Collins living at Fulham? A. No.
JAMES GILLIES . I am one of Mr. Eden's carmen. About two o'clock yesterday, I saw the prisoner concealed in the furze bushes, not above two hundred yards form the garden—I went and spoke to him—I had seen him there on Monday—I suspected him, went back, and found this musket and violin concealed in the place where he had been sitting—he had whip in his hand.
Prisoner. Q. Do you know John Collins? A. No—I do not board in my master's house—I believe I was sitting at dinner from one to two o'clock—I live at Roehampton—you said you had taken a drop of drink, and wanted to take a nap.
JEREMIAH JORDAN . I went to Brentford, and met the prisoner them carrying a bundle under his arm—i searched him, and found a halfpenny and this silver ring—my brother officer took the bundle from him.
Prisoner's Defence, The person I spoke about is a gardener—I met him at Roehampton—he said he had been to Brighton, and was going to Fulham to work in the nurseries—he was short of money, and asked me to buy these things—I was short of money myself—he wanted me to lend him some—I said I could not, as I had to go to Readings, in Bershire—he wanted 30s. for these things—I said, "You have awed me 5s. for some time"—I gave him a sovereign, but he pressed me, and I let him have 5s. more—we had two or three pots of beer together—the halfpenny must have come in change—I asked Collins where he lodged—he said at a greengrocers at Fulham, near the church—I hand no suspicion that any thing was wrong—I called on a person at Mortlake who detained me, or I should not have been two or three hours in going to Brentford, if I had known that any thing was wrong—I only came into prison since six o'clock this evening—I knew Collins to be a respectable young man.
GUILTY . Aged 27.— Transported for Seven Years.
OLD COURT.—Thursday, January 7th, 1836.
First Jury, before Mr. Justice Coleridge.
385. JOHN DYSON was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of December, 2200 numbers of a printed pamphlet, called the "Weekly Visitor," value 3l. 6s., the goods of John Davis, his master; and JAMES PAUL for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing them to have been stolen, against the Statute, &c.; ant that he had before been convicted of felony; to which
DYSON pleaded GUILTY .
MESSRS. PHILLIPS, CLARKSON, and PAYNE. conducted the prosecution.
WILLIAM BRITTAIN . I am a booksellers, and live in Queen's Head. passage, Paternoster-row. I am in the habit of purchasing books of the Religious Tract Society—I have purchased the Weekly Visitor for the last three years—it is published to the trade on Monday morning, and to the publie on Tuesday—it always bears the date of Tuesday, and is a weekly publication—for three months previous to the 19th of December, I had found that the trade were being supplied with it on the Staurday afternoon; and on Saturday, the 19th of December, about seven o'clock in the evening, I went to the shop of the prisoner Paul, in Paternoster-row—I think it is No. 52—it is within two doors of the Religious Tract Society Depository—I asked there for two dozen copies of the Weekly Visitor, and paid 9d. for them—Mr. Paul served me with them—I received twenty-seven for the two dozen—I was in the habit of receiving twenty-six from the Society before this—is consequence of suspicion, I had seen Mr. Theobald, on Monday, the 14th of December—on making this purchase at Paul's shop, I had been passing the window, and saw a person being supplied with the Weekly Visitor; and when I got in I saw him supplied with very nearly four hundred copies—the pile from which they were supplied was under the counter—the four hundred were on the counter, and the fresh hundred was broken to supply me, and put under the counter again—they were all tied up in bundles in hundreds—I before observed them supplied to people as quick as possible, and put out of the way when strangers were in the shop—they were always kept with the face down—I had observed that for some weeks before, when I had been there for other publications—I have seen the same persons supplied with them frequently—I know several persons who deals in the same pamphlet as well as myself—when I went, on the 19th of December, I told Paul I always made it a point to leave the City on Saturday evening, and did not come till late on Monday, and wished them in my shop ready for my boy to supply them on Monday morning—that was my reason for going for them—I paid Paul himself for them.
Q. When, on other occasions, you have seen them sold, was it before or on the day of publication? A. Before—on the Saturday afternoon, and it was in consequence of my losing the sale of them, through their being supplied before that I went to Mr. Theobald's, at the Depository, to ask if I could have the same favour allowed me—when I bought the twenty-seven I took them to the Tract Society to show them I could get them, and produced them to Mr. Theobald—the prisoner never gave me any reason why he could supply them on Saturday.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. I suppose it is a desirable thing for any body in the trade to get them on Saturday? A. Yes; I was very glad to get them on that day for my own convenience—it was very widely known in the trade that the prisoner was selling them on the Saturday—I do not think he would sell them to strangers—it was well known to the trade—I gave 9d. for the two dozen—that is the usual price to the trade, 4 1/2d. a dozen—I do not sell them retail—if I sold them by the dozen I should get nothing, but if I sold them in odd numbers I should get the thirteenth book—I should gain three farthings out of the two dozen.
COURT. Q. But in this case you would have got one number out of the two dozen, if you sold them wholesale? A. Yes.
MR. DOANE. Q. Do you sell any weekly publications yourself? A. Every description—it is very seldom the case that twenty-seven are allowed
to two dozen—I have done it occasionally to oblige a person, best it is at a very trifling profit—I have sold Chamber's Journal at twenty-seven to two dozen. because we are allowed a discount of five per cent on that; and that is not allowed on this work, un less we take a certain quantity—if 5l. worth of the Weekly visitor is taken, five percent. would be allowed I have sold Paul twenty-seven of Chamber's Journal to the two doses, and the penny and Saturday Magazines—there was only one other person in the sheep—I knew that person, and he knew me—I observed nothing extractsnary in the mode of doing biasness.
MR. CLARKSON Q. I thought you had observed always a disposition to get rid of the Weekly Visitor as soon as possible when it was sold? A. Yes—I observed nothing unusual in this transaction to what there generally had been—he always got them out of sight as quickly as possible—the boy had a bag on the counter, and put them into the bag as quick as possible—I did not ask this of Paul as a favour—I never purchased twenty-seven Weekly Visitors to two dozen of any body except Paul—I have bought them of the Tract Society, and got twenty-six—there is a discount of five per cent, if we lay out 5l.—there is a discount of 10l. as the Weekly Visitor.
COURT Q. How much must you take to get ten per cent.? A. 5l. worth of the Weekly Visitor—I have known Paul in the trade about twelve months—he lived within a few doors of the Tract Society all that time. JAMES PATTEN I am a bookseller, and live in High-street, St. Gilles's I have been in the habit of selling the Weekly Visitor—I obtained the copies I sold, in the first instance from the office where they were published—I have obtained them from Paul for nearly twelve months—his shop is within a door or two of the Religious Tract Society—he allowed me twenty-seven to the two dozen—he observed that I could have there on the Saturday afternoon—the publication day at the office is Monday morning to the trade, and Tuesday to the public; as I was not very particular to time, I did not always get them from Paul till Monday, best mostly I got them on Saturday night—about three weeks ago I seat for them, and did not get them on Saturday—I went to Paul, and asked his the reason I did not have the number I should have on Saturday—he stated there had been some piece of work about publishing the visitor before the time—it was owing to one Brittain going to the Society, and showing them that he could have been them on Saturday night, but he considered it would be all blown over in a few weeks time.
Cross-examined. Q. Do you sell the Penny Magazine? A. Yes, a great many—I have sold twenty-seven of them to the two dozen.
JOHN DAVIS I am superintendent of the Religious tract Society. I have the charge of the Society's stock—John Dyson was a servant of mine—he was in the warehouse department—the country department—he had no authority to make any sales or make out any bills of parcels whatever—I cannot say that I know his handwritting—I have seen him write frequently—I should say that these bills of parcels are in his handwritting—it was reported in the house that some publications were lost, and on inquiry it was found to be so—money paid on account of the Society, would reach my hand every night from the parties in the shop, who bring their cash books to me—I have not received money for any of the articles mentioned in these bills of parcels to my knowledge.
Cross-examined. Q. Them you may have received some of these? A. No, sir, if I had, I must have known—8l. has been received, but beyond that, I have no knowledge—Dyson has been about six years with us—I am the Society's agent, and am responsible for all that goes out—the bosses are rented in my name, and the bills of parcels are made in my name—I pay the rent for the Society—I superitend their concerns and hare done so for nearly twenty years—there is no other person in the shop who control over the goods, except as shopmen, under me—I am responsible to the Society—I have looked at the papers that were handed to me, they are quite irregular—this is one of the printed wills of parcels, but it has no name or date—my own name is on it, but there is not the same of the purchaser, nor the date—this is one of the printed forms sent out form our office—it has my name engraved at the head of it, so that my one would know this belonged to the Religious Tract Society, and that I was the agent; here are several bills above 5l., and some not, on printed paper, but plain.
MR. CLARKSON. Q. Suppose Dyson had been disposed to deal improperly had he access to these bills of parcels? A. They are accessible to my servants in the house—it is invariably the custom to set down the name of the purchaser, and the date, if it exceeds 5l.—I never sent out bills not printed, and without the vendor's name.
MR. DOANE Q. Are you aware that Paul could know that internal regulation? A. I don't know that he could.
MR. CLARKSON Q. How long had he lived next door to you? A. About a year and a half; but he had ample means before that, from having made many purchases above 5l., and received the discount—Do you must have known Paul.
COURT Q. Is there a department for the sale of your Publications, besides the warehouse department? A. Yes; Dyson was in the country warehouse, for executing country orders.
MR. CLARKSON Q. Do you he lived these bills to be in the handwriting of the prisoner Dyson? A. I believe they are.
COURT Q. You say the clerk brought you their cash books in the evening? A. yes, and accounted to me—it was their duty to put down every item separately—Dyson's duty was to look out, and execute country orders, and pack them, and he himself was not to sell me any body—if he had been at the retail counter, he would have been out of his place—he would be able to get at any part of the stock.
Q. Do you yourself know how long Paul had dealt with the Society, at any previous time, when he was agent to another institution? A. he may be five or six years since, but since Dyson has been there he seldom came; we hardly knew him as a customer, but I apprehend he would know all the servants of the house—he lived nearly opposite before.
THOMAS DIX I am superintendent of the binding department of the Religious Tract Society. On Monday, the 21st of December, I went to Paul, and told him I was given to understand, that he had been selling the Weekly Visitor, which was published by us on Monday, on the previous Saturday, and I was very anxious on the subject, having the charge of that part of the stock myself—he said he had purchased 200 of the society on Saturday last, and that one of the hundred, contained a mixture of the number published on the 21st of December—I asked him how many he supposed there might be of that Monday's publishing; he said be should suppose about fifty; I said, "Do you suppose they exceeded that
number?"—he said, "I should think not"—I then asked him if such as occurrence ever took place before; he said, "No"—Dyson came into the shop while I was there, and inquired if his book was ready; Paul said, "No"—Dyson had paper open in his hand, which appeared to be as order—I saw Paul again the same day, in the after part, when I was in company with Mr. Lloyd—we both conversed with him—I told him we could not make out respecting the sale of the weekly Visitor, or how he could posses himself of so many—I said, I could not make out how he could sell twelve dozen to one person, sixteen to another, and two to another, out of fifty numbers—he said it was very strange, he thought it was impossible—I told him I could bring evidence to prove that he had done so—he said it was very singular—Mr. Lloyd asked him whether he knew Dyson, he said, "Yes"—he then asked if he had had any business transactions with him, he said, "No"—I remember Dyson being given into custody—on Monday, the 21st, Mr. Lloyd asked the prisoner what Dyson came for; he said he came for a novel, and know where Dyson lived—I was present when his house was searched—this paper was found there—I missed 2, 200 Weekly Visitors—that was 1, 100 of No.179, published on the 21st, of December, and 1, 100 of the following week—they are worth 3s. per 100.
COURT. Q. You mean the number for the 28th of December? A. yes
MR. PAYNE. Q. Were you present at any search of Paul's premises? A. Yes; I took this list of publications published by our house, which were found there—it contains a great number of the Society's publications.
ROBERT THEOBALD . I am assistant to Mr. Davis. On saturday, the 19th of December, Mr. Brittain brought me twenty-seven weekly Visitors, which he stated he had brought of Paul—these are the publications—they all bear the date of the 22nd of December—they would be in course of publication by the society, to the trade, on Monday morning—on Monday, the 21st, a message was sent to Paul's shop, and he came in the evening, between six and eight—Mr. Jones, Mr. Lloyd, Mr. Dix, and myself, were there—I heard all the questions that were put—Mr.Paul was asked to account for selling the Weekly Visitors on the saturday—he replied, that he had sent a lad to purchase two hundred of the preceding week, and that one of the bundles contained fifty of that week, and fifty of that succeeding week—he was asked whom he sent to buy them—he replied, "A lad who came into my shop"—being asked what lad, he said, he did not know, but would inquire—he was going away, after about half an hour's interview, and promising to produce the lad, if he could, and throw light on the investigation that he knew was then going on—he was asked where he bought these numbers, but not by me—I was asked if I had any observation to make—I said, "we ought not to request of Mr.Paul to make the inquiry, but to require it of him for no Jury would believe the fact, that he was in the habit of sending boys whom he did not know to purchase his goods"—I said, "We do not want more information than Mr.Paul can at this moment give us no object can therefore be attained by delay;" and, addressing Mr.Paul, I said, "Two things, sir, are certain: the one is, that we have been robbed; the other is, that you have received the goods"—I should say, that during the conversation, Mr. Paul had been reminded that sales of fourteen dosen, twelve dozen, and other sales, could be provided against him; and I asked him, how he could account for such large sales, since he had admitted that he only had fifty by mistake that week, and that such an error had not occurred before?—he said, it was impossible—he was asked, in the course of
the conversation, if he had had any business transactions with Dyson; and he said he had not—this was Monday, the 21st—he went away—I heard nothing more of him till Tuesday, the 29th, when, at about half-past nine o'clock in the morning, he came into the shop, and beckoned me aside—I took him into Mr.Davis's counting-room, and he said, "It is of no use attempting to keep this matter a secret any longer I am come to clear myself, and to show that I have paid for all the goods that I have had"—he then produced these papers, which are marked No. 1 to 10 in the first parcel; and 11 to 26, and this one, which makes twenty-seven—I have seen Dyson write frequently—these are Dyson's handwriting—I asked Paul if he had received all the goods specified in these papers—he replied that he had, and had paid for them—I asked him, "How?" and he pointed to these two papers (marked C)—he said he had paid for them in his own shop—On inquiring if he had paid the writer of the invoices, he said he had, on the dates they bear—I asked him if he did not suspect something was wrong—he replied, "Not till yesterday week"—that is the substance of what he said.
Q. Are you able to tell us whether, supposing he had purchased the different articles specified in these bills of parcels, and paid for them over the counter of the Society's office, he would not have received a discount of ten per cent.? A. On such as amounted to above 5l. he would—I searched Dyson's clothes, which were at the warehouse, and found this paper (marked A) in his waistcoat pocket—there is a memorandum on it at the bottom, in Dyson's hand-writing—on these invoices (Nos. 1to 27) being produced by Paul, and these two papers, I was proceeding to put them under my coat, and Paul said, "You will not take them?"—I said, "Yes, I must show them to Mr. Jones"—and I gave Paul a memorandum, that he had delivered papers, purporting to be invoices, into my hands—Mr. Dix was present part of the time during this interview—at the close of the interview, before Paul left, he asked if John Dyson was in sight—I looked through the counting-house window to ascertain—I then turned to him, and said, "The coast is clear"—and Mr. Dix, in my presence, at the same time informed that Dyson was behind the nest of shelves in the library—Dyson had no authority for selling any of the society's publications, and he only made out invoices under another young man, who was in the country department—the prices on this paper (A) and the casting up, are in Dyson's hand-writing—these invoices are quite irregular, and such as could not come from the Society—they have neither the name of the purchaser, the date, nor receipt: and some of them are not printed, only written; some of them have neither the name of the vendor nor purchaser.
Cross-examined. Q. Between the first and second interview, about one week had elapsed? A. Yes; he came voluntarily the second time—he had a week to abscond after the first interview—there are deductions from some of these bills—in one case a deduction of 12s. on a bill for only six pennyworth of goods—there are prices marked opposite the articles, and they are full prices, with a very few exceptions—on the 29th he objected to my taking these papers till I gave him a memorandum.
JAMES PALMER . I am one of the clerks of the Bank of England. I know the hand-writing of the prisoner Paul—these papers (marked A and B) are in his hand-writing—I am secretary of the Books Society in Paternoster-row—it was established in 1750, for the circulation of religious books—Paul was in the service of that society for nine years—they are in
the habit of almost daily communication with the Religious Tract Society—Paul was their agent—his business was in the house and he resided in the house—he left in September, 1832, and set up for himself within a door or two of the Tract Society—the Book Society is opposite.
COURT. Q. You say Paul resided in the Book Society's house? A. Yes—I know that he has gone over to the Tract Society but his business there as agent would be to order the books—he certainly had the means of knowing, from the station he filled in the Book Society, the transactions of business in the Religious Tract Society.
(The documents, No. 1, to 27, were all invoices of weekly visitors and other publications of the Religious Tract Society, amounting to about 233l., but not relating to the present charge. The paper marked A and B were inventories of various other publications of the Society.)
DYSON was recommended to mercy by the Society with whom he had resided Six Years, on account of his previous good conduct.— Transported for Fourteen Years.
PAUL— NOT GUILTY .
Before Mr. Baron Gurney.
WILLIAM DARTNALL . I am a butcher, and live at No 5, Kingsland-road, Shoreditch. The prisoner has been in my employ for about four months—I have employed him to collect money on my account—I sent him last Saturday to Mr. Stuetevant's in Church-street, Bethnal-green, my fat melter, to receive 45l. 19s.5d. that was due—he asked me for a bag—I said he would want no bag he would receive it in cheques—he said I gave him a bag before—I said I had no recollection of it—I took a small bag out of my pocket and gave it him—he left me about ten minutes past twelve o'clock—he returned in about an hour, and told me he had lost the money that he had received—I told him that I could not believe it—I then asked him how he had got it—he said in gold—I said, "How is that?" it generally being paid in cheques—I then sent down to my son-in-law to come up—he went to the prisoner, and then the prisoner said something to him; and then the prisoner, told me that he had received cheques, and went to the bankers, and got them changed for gold; and as he was coming home he lost it—the prisoner had once before received cheques for me at the same place, and brought them tome; and I told him at this time he would received a cheque, and would not went any thing to put gold into.
RICHARD LAWRENCE STURTEVANT . I deal with Mr. Dartnell and his son-in-law. On Saturday last the prisoner came to me for their fat money—both their accounts were produced and both paid—Mr. Dartnall's account was 17l. 9s. 7d., Mr. Atwood's 28l. 9s., 10d., making together 15l. 19s.5d.—I wrote the cheques on our bankers, Messrs, Barnett, Hoare, and Co.—these are the cheques I gave the prisoner—they are indorsed by him.
JOSEPH SCHRIER . I am an apprentice to a prisoner. I have known the prisoner ever since I can recollect—I saw him last Saturday—he called on me at my work-sheep in George-yard, Lombard-street—he asked me whether
I was coming out—I told him I was not—he then gave me this bag, containing 46l. 3s. 6d.—he told me to take care of it for him—I asked what it was—he said he believed there was about 51l., and he would call for it at my place on Sunday afternoon, but he did not—I went to several place to see if I could hear any thing of him—I could not, and at five o'clock in the evening I went to Mr. Dartnall's and gave it to his daughter as he was out.
JAMES GLIBBERY (police-sergeant N 21.) The prisoner was given into my charge on Saturday last—I told him I took him in charge for stealing the money—he said be received the two cheques from the tallow melters—he wanted a warm, and ran down to the bankers; and, in coming back, he got behind a coach, and the money jumped out of his pocket.
(James Collins, an oilman, in Devonshire-street; J. Snelgrove, a butcher; David Boston, a plumber and glazier; and John Lee, gave the prisoner a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 19.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor.
Confined Eight Months.
Before Mr. Baron Gurney.
384. THOMAS LEONARD was indicted for feloniously forging, on the 1st of September, a Bill of Exchange for £19, (setting it forth.) with intent to defraud Thomas Paul, against the Statue, &c.—2nd Count for uttering, disposing of and putting off the same, with a like intent—3rd and 4th Count, for forging and uttering an acceptance to the said bill—4 other Counts stating his intent to be to defraud William Foster Geach.—4 other Counts, stating his intent to be to defraud Thomas Paul and others.
MR. BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.
PETER FINCHARD AIKIN . I am a partner in Stuckey's banking-house, at Bristol. Mr. Thomas Paul is a partner where and, there are others—I am one of the managing partners—about the 2nd of September, this letter (No.1.) and bill arrived by post at out banking-house—the bill purports to be an acceptance of Mr. Geach's—I do not Know him—I have seen his bills occasionally—this bill was discounted in the usual way; and advice was sent to Messrs. Robarts and Co., in my writing, to pay 18l.15s.6d.,—after that we received another letter by post dated the 18th—it inclosed a bill for£140—that bill I returned, and refused to discount it—it was signed "Thomas Thomas"—on the 12th of December we received a third letter, dated the 11th and signed "Thomas Morgan"—we had at that time reasons to believe that the first bill was a forgery—we sent to town—I wrote this letter to the last direction, and gave it to a clerk to transcribe.
GEORGE MOULES . I am a clerk in the banking-house of Messrs. Robarts and Curtis in the country office. We are the London correspondents of Stuckeys' Bank, at Bristol—we received this advice on the 3rd of September, to pay Thomas Baker 18l. 15s. 6d.—when a party cames to claim the money after such advice, we fill up a cheque for the party to sign—this cheque (looking at one)is filled up by me for 18l. 15s. 6d.—a person came to receive the money and signed it in my presence—I cannot tell how it was paid—I put my initials on it to pass it, and them gave it to the cashier to pay.
JOSEPH DINES MINSON . I am cashier at Robarts and Curtis's. This draft was presented to me for payment—I paid it in a £10 note, No. 10, 058, dated the 3rd of July, 1835, a £3 note, No. 10, 759, of the same date, and 3l. 15s. 6d. in money.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. You made that entry at the time? A. I did.
JACOB KORNE . I am a baker, and live at No. 76, Turnmill-street, Clerkenwell. The prisoner lodged with me for about six months, in the name of Leonard—he lived with me in September last; and about the time of Bartholomew-fair, which is on the 3rd, he asked me to give him change for a £10 note, and he would pay me what he owed—I took the note, and changed it next door at Mr. Parker's—I saw Mr. Parker write my name on the note.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you put any name on it yourself? A. No; I did not take notice of it—I remember well it was about the time of Bartholomew-fair, and was remarking to my mistress, that he had money that time.
COURT. Q. Did he come to you six months before that? A. No; he left me on the 7th of December—he was with us from June to december.
JOHN PARKER . I am a publican, and live next door to the last witness. He brought this note to me in September last; here is his name on it, which I wrote at the time—I am certain it is the same note.
JANE KORN . I am the wife of Jacob Korn. I know the prisoner—he lodged at our house—while he was there he changed a £5 note with me—it was about the 14th or 15th of September—I wrote his name upon it—this is it.
HANNAH PALMER . In September last, I was living servant at a coffee shop, at No. 116, Fore-street, Cripplegate. I know the prisoner—I saw him there in September—he came frequently—I knew him by the name of Thomas Baker—I took in two letters by his desie, and left them in the bar till he called for them—I gave them to him myself—he paid the postage of them—they were directed "Thomas Baker"—the last letter my master took in.
LUCY STEWART . My husband is a baker, and lives at No. 68, St. John-street, Smithfield. I don't know that I should know the prisoner—that man at the bar is the gentleman—he called on me one day about six months ago, and asked if there were a letter left in the name of Thomas Thomas—I said, "No"—he said "This is No. 68"—I said, "There is another No. 68," and he said, "No, it is this house at the corner"—he said, "If any letters should come, will you take them in?" and he left the money, but not sufficient, and I paid 10d. more—he called again, and a lad came a third time.
Cross-examined. Q. I understood you said, you were not sure you should know him? A. Yes; but I did not understand what way I was to look for the bar—I did not know that I should know him, but if I was to see him with the same white hat on as he had before, I might know him—I know him now by his good complexion, with rather a swallow skin—I never saw him without a hat—he came three times, once when he came to inquire for the letters, and twice when he came for them, but did not stop a minute; and I believe I was busy—the last time the boy came—it was about six months ago, and that is the gentleman.
MR. BODKIN. Q. Were you examined before the magistrate on this charge? A. No; I was ill—I had no opportunity of seeing the prisoner till this morning—he is the same person.
ELIZABETH PRIOR . I live at No. 29, in the Minories; it is a coffee-house. I know the prisoner at the bar—he came to lodge with me about the 7th of December—he did not give any name, till he gave me a letter, that was directed to Stuckey's and Co., Bankers, Bristol—this is it—he asked if I could tell him where there was a post-office—I told him I was going to send a newspaper there, and if he thought proper, I would send his letter at the same time—he gave me a shilling, and the letter to do so—he said if any letters came in the name of Thomas Leonard, I was to take them in.
Cross-examined. Q. Will you tell me what the name is inside, as the signature? A. "Thomas Morgan"—I read the direction myself—the postman was going past; I called him, and gave it to him.
JANE WARREN . My father keeps a coffee-shop, No. 122, Lower Thames-street. I know the prisoner—he came to my father's shop about a fortnight ago—he left 1s. with me to take a letter in—he wrote down "Thomas Morgan" as the name it would come in—no letter came till Thursday morning—(he called before that, and took away the money he had left)—that was the day that I saw Roe, the officer.
JOHN ROE . I am an officer of the City police. On the 17th of December, I was in attendance at No. 122, Lower Thames-street, and saw the prisoner there—he came into the house, and the last witness said to him, "Your letter is come"—he said, "Oh, is it?"—she took the letter from a ledge, and gave it him—he opened it, and was about to read it, when I took the letter from him, and took him into custody—this is the letter, it is dated, "Bristol, December 15." (No. 4.)
THOMAS GREENWAY . I am clerk to Mr. Geach—he is a solicitor, and lives at Ponty-Pool, in Monmouthshire. I knew the prisoner about four years—he lived at Ponty-Pool—he was a shopman and shop-keeper there—he had many transactions with Mr. Geach, which would enable him to become acquainted with his hand-writing—I believe the whole of this bill to be the prisoner's hand-writing. but I am sure the acceptance is—I have seen him write many times—these three letters I believe to be the prisoner's writing—the signature to this cheque on Messrs. Robarts, I also believe to be the prisoner's writing.
Cross-examined. Q. Have the prisoner and Mr. Geach had money transactions? A. Yes, I believe they have—I do not know that Mr. Geach has authorized the prisoner to sign his name.
MR. WILLIAM FOSTER GEACH . I am a solicitor, living at Ponty-Pool. I know the prisoner at the bar—I have had many transactions with him—I never authorized him to accept bills of exchange for me—no part of this bill is written by me, or by my authority—I think it is the hand-writing of the prisoner—these letters I believe are his writing also—he has had repeated opportunities of becoming acquainted with my hand-writing—the acceptance is an imitation of mine.
Cross-examined. Q. Did the prisoner give you a warrant-of-attorney at any time? A. I believe not—he gave me an assignment—it was not an actual assignment; it was conditional, with a view of arranging with his creditors—he has never signed my name in any transactions—I never gave Billand authority for any thing of the sort—(Letters read.)
"Ponty-Pool, August 24th, 1835.
"Two months after date, pay to my order Nineteen Pounds, value received.
"Aceepted, payable at Messrs. Stuckey and Co., Bankers, Bristol.
"W. F. GEACH."
(Letter No.1.)—"London, September 1st, 1835.—Gentleman, I should feel obliged by your discounting the enclosed acceptance for nineteen pounds, and after you have deducted the interest, &c. please inclose and forward, by return of post, a cheque or an order on one of the banking-houses in this city. Direct as under, and you will oblige, Gentleman, your obedient servent, "THOMAS BAKER".
"Thomas Baker, 116, Fore-street, Cripplegate, Landon."
(Letter No.2.)—"London, September 19th, 1835.—Gentleman, I should thank you to discount the enclosed acceptance for 140l., and please forward, by return of post, an order on one of the banking-houses in the City. Direct to me as under, and you will oblige, Gentleman, your obedient servant, "THOMAS THOMAS."
"Thomas Thomas, hop-merchant, No.68, St. John-street, Smithfield, London.—To Messrs. Stuckey and Co., bankers, Bristol."
(Letter No.3.)—"London, December 11th, 1835.—Gentleman, I shall feel obliged if you will have the goodness to inform me, by return of post, whether the sum of thirty-four founds has been paid into your bank in my favour, your obedient servant, "THOMAS MORGAN."
"Please direct as follows: Thomas Morgan, 122, Lower Thames-street, London.—To Messrs. Stuckey and Co., bankers, Bristol."
(Letter No.4.)—"Stuckey and Co. present their compliments to Mr. Morgan, and beg to inform him they had not the——of receiving his letter, nor have they received the payment to which it refers.—Bristol 15th of December.—To T. Morgan, Esq., 122, Lower Thame-street."
GUILTY . Aged 28.— Transported for Life.
NEW COURT, Thursday, January 7th, 1836.
Fifth Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.
ROBERT TROTT . I keep the Camden Head public-house, in Church-lane, Limehouse. On the 4th of January, about half-past two o'clock, I and my wife were in the tap-room—my wife heard the halfpence rattle in the till in the bar—she went out, and stopped the prisoner in the passage—he was quite a stranger—I went out, and told her to look into the till, which she did, and missed 1s. 6d. in silver, which was all the silver there had been in it—I accused him of taking it—he said he had not taken any, and he had not got any money—I was taking him to the station-house, and when be got about two hundred yards, he opened his hand, and gave me 1s. 6d. out of it.
Prisoner's Defence. I was passing, and saw a boy taking the money out of the till—I went in to get something to drink, and this gentleman came and said I had stolen 1s.6d. from the till—I said I had not, but there was 1s. 6d. on the counter, and I gave it him—he knocked me on the head three times.
GUILTY . Aged 16.— Transported for Seven Years.
KENT LARCENIES, &c.
First Jury, before Mr. Recorder.
WILLIAM GEORGE MOORE . I live servant in Artillery-place, Woolwich. I was in the Earl of Chatham public-house on the 29th of December, and saw the prisoner there—I had a pair of boots in the tap-room; and about half an hour after I had seen them safe, I missed them—I had been to my work in the mean time—I had left the prisoner and another woman there, and an artillery-man—I went, about four o'clock, to Mrs. Miller's in High-street—I asked Mrs. Miller if she had a pair of cossack boots which she thought would fit me—she said she thought she had, and brought me my own—I tried them on, and said I thought they would do—the prisoner was sitting by the fire—I fetched the constable, who apprehended her—I had purchased them the Saturday previous, and lost them on Tuesday—I had worn them in the mean time.
WILLIAM THOMAS CHITTENDEN . I am constable of Woolwich. I went with the prosecutor to Miller's shop, and got the pair of boots which I now produce—I apperhended the prisoner there—she said she received the boots from a person named Hodge, who was afterwards apprehended, and discharged by the Magistrate.
Prisoner. I told him that Mrs. Hodge gave them me to dispose of—she went with me in the morning, and pledged a shift, and gave me them to pledge; but they could not take them in, they were so full—I went to Mrs. Miller's, and asked her to buy them, and she did—I told her, if she was afraid they were not honestly come by, I would leave my name and address.
MARGARET MILLAR . I am the wife of William Miller; he is a marine. The prisoner came to my shop between one and two o'clock on Tuesday, the 29th of December—she asked me to buy the boots, which I did—she asked 4s.—I gave her 3s—I had not seen her before—she stopped in the shop to warm her child—I asked her if they came honestly—she said, if I gave her pen, ink, and paper, she would write her name; but she did not, and I had no suspicion—she remained there—Moore came in, and asked for a pair of cossack boots—I showed him these—he bargained for them, and left 1s., and said he would go for his mother—he then brought the constable, who took the boots—the prisoner came alone.
Prisoner. I told her boots to dispose of for another person. Witness, She said they were her own—I did not hear any think of her having them for another person, till the constable came.
Prisoner. When the constable came in, I told him, and gave him the tickets—I was not out of the house till the constable came.
WILLIAM THOMAS CHITTENDEN re-examined. The duplicates were given me by Miller, in the presence of the prisoner—they were for articles belonged to the prisoner, but pawned by Mrs. Hodge, who was discharged.
cloak on—I do not know whether the prisoner had or not—these are my boots.
(The prisoner received a good character.)
GUILTY. Aged 26.—Recommended to mercy. — Confined One Month.
Third Jury, before Mr. Justice Coleridge.
387. THOMAS RAINSBURY and WILLIAM JONES were indicted for feloniously and burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Henry Gunn, at Lewisham, Kent about one o'clock in the night of the 13th of December, with intent to steal, and stealing therein 1 warming-pan, value 15d.; 1 kettle, value 1s.; 1 powder-flask, value 1s.; 1 cruet frame value 2s.; 1 telescope, value 3s.; 1 soldering-iron, value 6d.; 12 lbs. of solder, value 3s.; 32 glass bottles, value 4s.; 8 lbs. of rags, value 2s.; and 6 bell-cranks, value 1s.; his property; and that the said William Jones had before been convicted of felony;—and JOHN ROBERTS was indicted for feloniously receiving the same n the 14th of December, well knowing them to have been stolen.
WILLIAM HENRY GUNN . I have a house on Dartmouth-hill, which is empty—I never let it—it was uninhabited on the 14th of December, and bad been so four months—I lived in it for the last ten years, till some time in August—I was not going back to it—I wanted to let it. but had no servant nor any body there—I was there the last time about a fortnight before the 14th of December—I merely went over the bottom part of the house—I left the doors and every thing secure—I left a good deal of property in it it was furnished nearly all through—on the 14th of December I heard of the robbery, and went there that day—I found the place in a complete state of confusion, and a great deal of property, as stated in the indictment, gone away from the lower part of the premises—I found, on the 16th, at Roberts's, at Deptford, a warming-pan, powder-flask, kettle, bell-cranks, and cruet-frame.
Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Did you see Roberts at his shop? A. Yes, on the 16th of December—he appeared before the magistrates at Lewisham the next day—he went when he was told to attend—he was not taken into custody—he was bailed the following day, and has surrendered here.
Rainsbury. Q. Did you not say, at the office, you could not swear to the articles? A. At first I could not, till I came to examine them—I said at first they appeared like the things I had lost—I did not say I could not swear to them—I had not looked at them and examined them then—there was no whispering between me and the policeman.
THOMAS SHELFORD . I live in the adjoining house to Mr. Gunn's. on Dartmouth-hill. On the 14th of December I was the prisoners. Rainsbary and Jones, on Mr. Gunn's premises—I should say it was a very little after five o'clock in the evening—I saw them at the back, or rather the side entrance of Mr. Gunn's premises, in a sort of court-yard—I was on my own premises, and heard a voice or voices—I went round, and saw them in the court—I had never seen them before, but I am confident they are the presons—day-light bad nearly past, but there was light enough, and other means for me to see them—I saw them at the moment, and afterwards met them coming out of the entrance—when I first saw them, I said, "Come here, my lads, I want you"—I spoke load enough for them to hear—they made no answer, but went to the right, round the corner, out of my sight
for a moment—I then went to the corner, to the blacksmith's shop, they were coming up then, and I was them, and said, "My lads, you have been in Mr. Gunn's back yard"—they said they had not' that one of them had been down to ease himself—I gave them in charge to the blacksmith, and went down and called Mr. Gunn, who came up with the policeman, and had them taken into custody—I did not see any thing with them.
MARY ANN STEER . I live in Mill-lane, Deptford. Rainsbury and Jones both lodged with me for a short time in December—on Monday, the 14th of December, about eight o'clock in the morning, they went out and asked my husband to lend them a basket—I think it was Rainsbury asked—I do not think Jones was present—they both went out together nearly—Rainsbury said he wanted the basket, to go and gather rags and bottles—my husband lent him a basket and a bag, to put their rags in—they came back about half-past ten o'clock the same morning, with the bag full—apparently of rags—they had a handle basket and my basket—they seemed full of rags and bottles together, as if rags were put between the bottles, and the bag appeared full of rags—they remained there a quarter of an hour or ten minutes, and went out—as they went through my little shop, I said, "What! are you off again?" they said, "Yes"—I asked what they gave a dozen for the bottles—they said 1s. 6d. or 1s. 7d.—they returned again after they had sold them, and brought in three bottles—I said, "What! can't you sell them?"—they said, "Yes, we can sell them, but we will sell them to you for a halfpenny a-piece"—this was not long after they went out—it was about dinner time—after dinner, about four o'clock, they went out again with the two baskets—I said, "Are you going to work again?"—they said, "Yes, we have got some more bottles to fetch"—I saw no more of them till I saw them in custody next day—they gave me a spy glass on Sunday morning, and asked me to put it away, because they could not sell it—I saw the basket and hamper which I had lent them, before the magistrate.
WILLIAM WORSDELL . I am a policeman. On the 14th of December, I was on duty on Blackheath-hill, from nine o'clock to two o'clock—I saw both the prisoners on Blackheath-hill, about a quarter before ten o'clock, going towards Deptford, in a direction from Mr. Gunn's house—they were loaded with rags and bottles—each had a basket and a bag—I did not stop them—I searched Steer's house, in Mill-land, Deptford, on the 16th, and found the spy-glass and three bottles—I searched Roberts's house, in High-street, Deptford, the same day, and found a warming-pan, a copper kettle, a powder-flask, and a quantity of solder, and a soldering-iron—he is a dealer in marine stores, and keeps a large china shop as well—I found the articles in his back premises below, outside the cellar, in a yard, laying open.
Cross-examined. Q. Have you known Deptford long? A. For the last five years—I know Mrs. Roberts sometimes buys and sells things in his absence.
JAMES WILD . I am a policeman. I have a certificate of the former conviction of Jones—I was present when he was tried last January at Maidstone session—he is the same person—(read)—I know both the prisoners.
(Property produced and sworn to.)
Rainsbury's Defence. On the day we were taken on Blackheath-hill, we had been out with two baskets and a bag to gather bottles and rags—when we were coming home, we saw a hearth-stone boy, who had collected
a lot of things—I asked him if he would sell them—we bought them of him, and they are the things we sold to Roberts, a and which the policeman saw us on Blackheath—hill.
JONES— GUILTY of stealing only. Aged 18.— Transported for Life.
RAINSBURY— GUILTY of stealing only. Aged 17.— Transported for Seven Years.
ROBERTS— NOT GUILTY .
Fifth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.
388. MARY FRANKS and ELIZA LACEY were indicted for feloniously receiving, of an evil—disposed person, on the 16th of December, 106 handkerchiefs, value 16s., the goods of David Wild, well knowing them to have been stolen, against the Statute, &c.
DAVID WILD . I am a draper, and live at Greenwich. On the afternoon of the 14th of December, I had a bundle of handkerchiefs bound up in a leather strap—I saw them safe at a quarter before five o'clock—there were nine or ten dozen of them, worth I dare say 3l.—these are the handkerchiefs—I lost them in ten minutes after I saw them.
Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Was there a person named Sleaton taken? A. No; I believe the police are after him—these are cotton handkerchiefs.
BENJAMIN BANTER . I am a clothier. On the 13th of December, between nine and ten o'clock in the evening, I was sent for, and these handkerchiefs had been left at my shop for me to look at—the prisoner Franks came afterwards, and asked if I would buy those handkerchiefs which had been left—I asked if she came honestly by them—she said they belonged to a young man, who was going for a soldier, and he wished to dispose of them—I said we had received information that such things had been stolen, and I thought they were part of the property—she said she did not think it was, or something to that effect—the officer then came, in whom I had spoken to before—he asked how she got them—she said she had been sent to my house to know if I would purchase them, and that they had been brought by Eliza Lacey; that the young man was outside, and he had got some merino—the officer took her, but could not find the man.
FANNY BAXTER . I am the wife of the last witness. I was at home when Lacey came, and asked if I thought my husband would but the handkerchiefs which she brought; she said a young man gave them to her.
NOT GUILTY .
JANE HEMMINGS . I am the wife of John Hemmings—we live in Bridge-street, Greenwich. The prisoner hired a furnished room of me—this property was in the room—I missed it on the 20th of December—the prisoner's sister, Mary Ann, lived with her.
WILLIAM SPENCER . I am shopman to a pawnbroker. On the 14th of November I took in this pillow for 1s. 6d. of a little girl, named Mary Ann Lane; on the 20th, another pillow for 1s.; and on the 19th of December, a sheet and two pillow—cases, from the same person.
NOT GUILTY .
JOHN COOPER . I live in Park-place, Blackheath. I took some pigs to Blackheath fair for sale on the 12th of October—I had amongst them a litter of seven, which were six weeks old—I did not sell one of the young ones—in the evening 1 opened the pen to let them go home—some boys ran in among them, and frightened them—we got some of them in—while we were getting them in, Ford told me I had lost a pig—it was a black and white one—this is it—I know it is mine, I bred it my self.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Do you mean to say there is any thing remarkable about this pig? A. I know it, as I attended to it—I had twenty young ones in all, but not like this—it is particularly marked—I had two marked black and white, one was a sow, and the other a borrow pig—I believe I could swear to this, if I saw it at York—it is marked on the head and tail, and the other was marked on the belly—I always called this the "Black head"—I only bad it six weeks, and have lost it about three months.
HENRY FORD . I was at Blackheath fair on the 12th October—I saw the pigs in the pen, and turned out on the health—several boys ran after them, and they were scattered about—I saw the prisoner catch a pig, and put it into Mr. Cooper's pen—he then caught another pig, and went towards the pen, and said several times, "Who has lost a pig?"—I could not see what sort of a pig it was.
Cross-examined. Q. Was there any secrecy about it? A. No; he told me to come and look at a pig he had in his yard—he lives next door but one to me.
GEORGE BARHAM . I am a constable. I took the prisoner on Penge Common, in Surrey—I said, "You must go along with me"—Claridge came up at the time—the prisoner said, "I have had a great deal if trouble with this; I bought it honestly enough at Blackheath fair for 9s. of two London dealers, and sold it to Claridge for 4s., as I wanted to go about the country."
NOT GUILTY .
SURREY LARCENIES, &c.
First Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.
CYRENIUS BERRY HERRING . I live in Asylum—buildings, Westminstermad, and am a coach—maker. I missed eight carriage—springs, value 8l., and eight axletree arms, value 15l., on Sunday, the 15th of November—I
had seen them safe on the Friday previous, in a loft over my smith's shop—I know the prisoner's father very well, and I had some slight knowledge of him—he did not work on my premises—his father is a master axletreemaker—I used sometimes to send work to him to do—he never worked on my premised—I never spoke to the prisoner on this subject till he was in custody—I then asked him if he knew some parties, whom I named, who were tried last sessions—he said he knew them.
Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. How many persons have you already prosecuted for these springs? A. Three, who were tried and acquitted here last sessions—one of them worked on the premises—I cannot tell whether they might not have given the springs to the prisoner EDWARD LANGLEY (police-constable L 148.) I apprehended the prisoner on the 26th of December—I told him I took him as being one of the party concerned in stealing Mr. Herring's springs—he told me he knew nothing about the springs—he did not say any thing about a pawnbroker, or about a cart and horse, to my recollection.
GEORGE SMITH (police-constable L 10.) On the night of the 16th of November, about eight o'clock in the evening, I saw Bowden in company with others at the end of the Cornwall-road, with a man with a donkeycart—they appeared to be disputing about his not giving enough for the job he had done for them—that was the prisoner—he had a glass and a measure in his hand at the time, just going into the public-house.
JOHN SEAGER . I am a locksmith. I went with Mr. Jones to Bowden's to tell him to come and take the springs away, or he would throw them into the street—he said. "Don't make yourself uneasy about them, they are perfectly right"—he said, that as I was by the Victoria theatre—I was working at Mr. Jones's (who was one who was tried)—when Snelling brought them there on his shoulder, I went to Bowden about them—he said, "It is perfectly right, we will fetch them away in the morning."
Cross-examined. Q. Who was Snelling? A. I do not know him, but I saw him in the dock last session; but the bill against Jones was thrown out-Snelling brought the axletrees—the springs I never saw.
JOHN ALFRED SMITH . I live with Mr. Clark, a pawnbroker, in Old-street, St. Luke's. On the night of the 16th of November, three persons next entered my master's shop—they came to pledge some springs—the prisoner was one of them—they brought four sets of nut-cracker springs—they placed them on the counter—I did not see who brought them in, but I saw them standing against the counter, with the springs before them—they were pledged for 7s. 6d. a pair—my master paid them in all 5l. 10s., deducting something for warehouse-room—I cannot say to whom my master paid the money—the foreman paid it.
Cross-examined. Q. Is the foreman here? A. He was not bound over—I gave evidence last session—I cannot tell whether one or two took the money—I was carrying away the springs, and one of them made the remark, that I could not carry them—I said, "Yes, I could"—I cannot tell who I said it to.
JAMES ATKINS . I was tried here last sessions, and acquitted—I am a general dealer, and attend the markets, and do little jobs. On the 16th of November, I was cunning up the New-Cut, about ten yards from the Victoria theatre—I was asked to do a job, to go over the water with a few things it was a man with a velveteen coat and black hatband; but dress
makes such an alteration, that I should not like to swear it was the prisoner—I took some springs for him to Cow-cross—the man was sometimes on the pavement, and sometimes in the road—he told me to drive the things to Cow-cross in my donkey-cart—I put four axletrees and two sets of carriage-springs in, and took them from a house in the Cornwall-road—the man helped me in with them—he paid me 2s. for going to Cow-cross, and 2s. for going to Old-street—before I got to the pawnbrokers he took them out—I suppose about sixty yards before we got there—the same man took them out, but I have forgotten him—I should think the prisoner is the man.
Cross-examined. Q. Will you swear that is the man? A. I should not like to swear it—I did not know him before—I am positive there was but one man—they were not pitched down in the street—I did not take any on my shoulder—they swore to me last session—the pawnbroker's boy did not—he swore to Snelling.
ROBERT JONES . I am a fender-maker and smith. On the 14th of December, a set of springs came down to my house—they were left at my place, and Bowden fetched them away on the 16th of December—I do not know who left them there.
Cross-examined. Q. It was in December? A. Yes' about three weeks before Christmas—I was told that Snelling had brought them.
NOT GUILTY .
Third Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.
392. JOSEPH WIGGINS was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of December, at St. Mary, Lambeth, Surrey, 2 boxes, value 5s., the goods of James Dallett, his master; and JAMES BAGSHAW for feloniously receiving the said goods on the same day, well knowing there to have been stolen; and SAMUEL PEARCE for feloniously receiving the said goods on the 21st of December, well knowing them to have been stolen, against the Statute, &c.
JAMES DALLETT . I am a tallow-chandler, and live at Putney; Wiggins was my carter, and carried my goods out. I could not miss any boxes, having so many—it was his business to take full boxes of candles out, and bring home empty boxes and fat—sometimes the boxes are left with the customers, and sometimes returned—I was shown some afterwards, which I have no doubt are mine—I have sold boxes, if a gentleman coming down the street wanted one—sometimes my customers keep them, and we charge them in the bill—I know nothing of the other two prisoners.
Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. How long has Wiggins been in your employ? A. Four or five years—I trusted him with considerable sums of money—he has borne a fair and honest character, and is a hardworking man.
Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN. Q. Can you take upon yourself to swear these boxes were not among those sold to your customers? A. No.
HENRY BARTON . The prisoner Bagshaw has been ostler at the Three Goat's Heads, in the Wandsworth road—I was under ostler—Bagshaw was my master—I have seen Pearce—I think he is a fishmonger—he keeps a horse and cart—they were accustomed to stop at the Goats' Heads—Wiggins sometimes stopped there with his master's cart—on Tuesday, the 31st of December, Wiggins stopped there with Mr. Dallett's
cart—Pearce was not there—Wiggins came up with his cart about half-past eight o'clock, and asked to see the ostler—I said he was in-doors—he went in to see him—he and Bagshaw came out together—Bagshaw came into the stable to me, and told me to take in the boxes, pointing to the cart—there were two boxes—Wiggins was then in the cart—Bagshaw went in-doors; Wiggins then untied the boxes. and gave them to me—I put them into the stable by Bagshaw's order—Wiggins came in, and asked me what I thought them worth, and said he thought them worth 1s.6d. a-piece—I said I had nothing to do with them; they did not concern me—Wiggins then went in-doors—Bagshaw came out a little after that, and asked me where the boxes were—I told him, in the stable; and he asked me what I thought them worth—I told him I did not know any thing about them—he said he should only give 2s. 6d. for them—next morning I told Bagshaw it was very wrong to have such boxes in his possession, (seeing Mr. Dallett's name was on them,) he said they were all right; that they were going away in a day or two—I saw Pearce on the Saturday morning following—I watered his horses for him, and he stopped there, the ostler told him he had got some boxes for him—he said he could not take them then, but would come down for them on Sunday morning, if he could—he then went away—nothing more occurred about the boxes that day—on the Monday morning, I had left the Goat's Heads, and was going to town—I met Pearce's cart, and looked back to see if he stopped at the Goat's Heads—he did so, and I saw he boxes put up into his cart—I went on to town, and when I returned in the evening I gave information to the police—I told Bagshaw that the first time the boxes were taken away, that I should give information about them.
MR. DALLETT re-examined by MR. BODKIN. I charge my customers with the boxes, and they pay for them—sometimes they afterwards return them to me, and get back the money, or deduct it in the, next account—these two boxes may have been charged and returned many times, and credit given for them—I cannot undertake to say they might not have been charged and paid for.
COURT. Q. Can you tell what Wiggins had to do on Tuesday? A. I believe he went to the Tower with a load of candles, then to Lambeth to different shops; and from there, I believe, the boxes came—if a customer had paid for the boxes in a previous account, and returned them again I should allow them again in the second account.
HENRY BARTON cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. The name of Mr. Dallett was openly and visibly written on the boxes? A. Yes—any body could see it—I said before the Magistrate that I was in Bagshaw's service—that is true—I was his servant when I was before the Magistrate—I beg your pardon. I was nobody's servant then—I had dismissed myself from Bagshaw's service—I might have dismissed myself from three services besides his—I had a quarrel with him, that was not the reason I left—I was informed I should not be kept, and so I resigned, for fear of being discharged—I should have staid, if I had not known I was to be dismissed—no, I should not, because I had get the promise of another situation—I thought, as I was to be turned off, I had a right to look for another situation—I was asked two or three times to go after the place before I knew I was to be turned away—Mr. Balding. my old master would not take me. I cannot tell why I never had my conversation with him about going back—I quitted him because I did not think proper to stay there—I
do swear that was the reason—I owed him something when I left, and do now—4l. or 5l. for been I had taken out for him—I delivered beer to the customers, and got the money from them, and spent it I suppose.
Q. How much did you spend of Balding's money which you get from his customers? A. None at all—if you will allow me I will tell you—I took the beer out—I was accountable for all I delivered—it was all left in my hands—I trusted customers, and if I never got paid I was obliged to pay in the account—you said I took his money, and never paid if—I received money from the customers for beer on my own account, what they owed me—it was not my duty to take home what money I received to him instantly—I used to account to him once a week.
Q. Will you swear that a fortnight before you left him you had not received money from customers and not accounted to him for it? A. Of course I did—he knew nothing about the customers—I used to account to him for the whole amount of the beer—it was not received on his account, but on my own—he was given me a bill of what I owe him, but I cannot tell about it—I have lost it—Mr. Balding did not dismiss me from his service—yes, I believe he did.
NOT GUILTY .
Third Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.
393. MARY JONES was indicted for stealing, on the 18th of December, at St. George-the-Martyr, 1 bonnet, value 3s. 6d.; 7 caps, value 3s. 6d.; 2 gowns, value 4s.; 1 veil, value 2s.; 2 collars, value 6d.; and 1 handkerchief, value 2s.; the goods of Ann Phillips; and 1 bonnet, value 5s., the goods of Charlotte Phillips; and that she had been before convicted of felony.
ANN PHILLIPS . I am single, and am a servant out of place, I saw these clothes safe on the evening of the 17th of December, in my mother's bed-room, at No. 42 White-street—she occupies the house, but she was in the Borough Computer for debt, and I was taking care of her house—on the 18th of December, about half-past two o'clock, I went out and took her her dinner—I was fetched before four o'clock, and found the property gone—the prisoner was quite a stranger, and had no right to be in the house.
ANN RUMNEY . I lodge in the second floor front room in the prosecutrix's house. On the 18th December, between two and three o'clock, I was looking out of the window, and saw the prisoner come into the house without any bundle; and as I knew nobody was at home but myself, I went up stairs, but could find nodody—I went up stairs again, looked out of window, and saw her go out with a bundle.
(Bonnet produced, and sworn to.)
JOHN ASLETT . I am a policeman. I produce a certificate from the office of Mr. Lawson, the clerk of the peace for the county of Surrey, of the prisoner's former conviction—(read)—I know her to be the person—she was tried by the name of Mary Johnson.
GUILTY . Aged 44.— Transported for Seven Years.
Before Mr. Baron Gurney.
394. HANNAH HAHEARN was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of December, at the parish of Christ Church, Surrey, 61 yards of silk, value 6l.; and 1 wooden roller, value 2d.; the goods William White and another, in their dwelling—house.
WILLIAM AMBROSE . I am in the service of William White and his partner, silk—mercers, in Blackfriar's-road—neither of them reside in the house—the servants live in the house. On the 24th of December, about half—past three o'clock in the afternoon, the prisoner came to the shop, and asked for some silk to make a bonnet—I showed her a variety of pieces, and sold her a small quantity off one of them—I had occasion to turn my back for a few minutes, and as I came back I saw her take this piece of silk off the counter, and place it under her cloak—she purchased a few small articles, and paid for them, and was leaving the shop—when about half way out, this piece of silk dropped form under her cloak on the floor—she took it up again, and placed it again under her cloak—she went to a counter in another part of the shop—I there charged her with stealing the silk, and found it under her cloak—the end of the silk was wound round her arm at the time I found it, and the roller was falling on the ground—I went for an officer—it was sixty—one yards of silk, and worth 6l. at the retail price; the wholesale price would be shout 5l. 15s.
Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS. Q. Would there be only 5s. difference between the wholesale and retail price? A. That is all—the silk was in a rumpled state, as she had dropped it once—there was not fifty of sixty yards trailing along the ground—it was nearly on the ground where she stood—we took her into the private part of the house to search her, but found nothing but a few shillings, and the articles she had purchased—there might be about a hundred persons in the shop, including the shopmen—the firm is White and Greenwell—there are only two partners.
Prisoner's Defence. I am actually innocent of the crime.
(Elizabeth Carey, the wife of a shoemaker, at Chelsea; Samuel Samuels, a cane—dyer; and Cornelius Connel. a shoemaker, at Whitechapel; gave the prisoner a good character.)
GUILTY . Aged 29.— Transported for Life.
Before Mr. Recorder.
The prisoner pleaded GUILTY to the 2nd Count.— Fined 40l., with leave to speak to the prosecutrix.
Fifth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.
DANIEL MURPHY . I am carman to Mr. Henry Cox, soap—maker, in Goswell-street. On the 23rd if December I went to a shop with half a ton of soap—I received 17l. in copper, and 3l. 10s. in half-crowns—I put the copper into one of the soap-boxes—it was in five-shilling parcels—I went on to Blackfriar's-bridge—I there looked back, and saw the prisoner in my waggon, putting his hand into the box, and taking a 5s. parcel in his hand, he handed it out to another lad, who was by the side of the waggon
I stopped my horses as quickly as I could, and came behind—I caught the prisoner at the time he was stepping out of the tail of the waggon—I asked what he wanted there—he said he was only going to have a ride—I said I would not let him go till I had got a policeman—I gave him to a gentleman—he got away six or seven yards, and was caught again—he got away again, and was again caught—I did not find any money at that time—I counted the money in the box at the station—house, and there was 3l. 15s. short out of the 17l. in copper.
Cross-examined by MR. DOANE. Q. Are you quite sure you had this money? A. Yes—as I was driving the waggon was behind me; but I was behind the waggon as soon as the prisoner got out—I was watching him to come down—it was not very foggy—I could see him give the packages to somebody else—I could not go after the man who had the money—I had enough to do to keep the prisoner—he knew where the other man was gone—I laid hold of the prisoner at the time he jumped from the waggon—he had no copper about him—there were four papers of copper out of the soap—box, which he had not time to hand out—I did not leave the waggon—the prisoner had seen me bring the money out of the shop—he lives close by there—there were two persons ran away; but the prisoner is the man who handed the money out.
JOHN RADCLIFFE . I am an engraver. I saw the prisoner and this witness struggling at the tail of the waggon—I laid hold of the prisoner—he got away—I asked the carman if he had lost any thing—he said he had money in the waggon—the prisoner was taken afterwards.
Cross-examined. Q. Did you see him afterwards? A. I ran after him, and saw him taken—it was about five o'clock, and I saw him at the station-house three quarters of an hour afterwards—I had never seen him before; but I am sure he is the man—I saw no money found.
Cross-examined. Q. Was he not running after another man? A. I saw no one running but the prisoner—he ran against me, and I caught him.
JOHN TILLEARD . I am an oilman, and live in Suffolk-street, Borough. I paid Daniel Murphy 17l. in copper, done up in 5s. papers—the prisoner has come to my house as a carman with goods from respectable persons.
Prisoner's Defence. I was coming over Blackfriars—bridge, and crossed at the tail of his waggon.
GUILTY . Aged 34.— Confined Six Months.
ADJOURNED TO THE 1ST OF FEBRUARY, 1836.