Old Bailey Proceedings, 26th October 1796.
Reference Number: 17961026
Reference Number: f17961026-1

THE WHOLE PROCEEDINGS ON THE KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery FOR THE CITY OF LONDON, AND ALSO, The Gaol Delivery FOR THE COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, HELD AT JUSTICE-HALL, IN THE OLD-BAILEY, On WEDNESDAY the 26th of OCTOBER, 1796, and the following Days, BEING THE EIGHTH SESSION IN THE MAYORALTY OF The Right Honourable WILLIAM CURTIS, Esq. LORD MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LONDON.

TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND BY MARSOM & RAMSET, AND Published by Authority.

LONDON: Printed and published by W. WILSON, No. 15, St. Peter's-Hill, Little Knight-Rider-Street, Doctors' Commons.

1796.

THE WHOLE PROCEEDINGS ON THE KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery FOR THE CITY OF LONDON, &c.

BEFORE WILLIAM CURTIS , Esq. LORD MAYOR of the CITY of LONDON; the Right Honourable Sir JOHN HEATH , Knight, one of the Justices of His Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; the Right Honourable Sir BEAUMONT HOTHAM , Knight, one of the Barons of His Majesty's Court of Exchequer; Sir JOHN WILLIAM ROSE , Knight, Serjeant at Law, Recorder of the said City; JOHN SILVESTER , Esq. Common-Serjeant at Law of the said City; and others, His Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer of the CITY of LONDON, and Justices of Gaol Delivery of NEWGATE, holden for the said City and County of MIDDLESEX.

First Middlesex Jury.

Hugh Wright ,

Lacy Punderson ,

Joseph Appleford ,

Samuel Wardell ,

John M'Ord ,

Benjamin Skelton ,

Matthew Moody ,

John Moxey ,

Ralph Birchinhall ,

Richard Mount ,

John Fryer ,

* James Gibson .

* Thomas Edwards served part of the time in the room of James Gibson.

Second Middlesex Jury.

Peter Taylor ,

Richard Francis ,

James Herbert ,

Walter Thwaites ,

Samuel Jennings ,

Samuel Foulger ,

Francis Brown ,

Joseph Butler ,

Edward Kent ,

James Stewart ,

Thomas Driver ,

George Evans ,

London Jury.

Thomas Hackett ,

George Osborne ,

Christopher Athong ,

Thomas Hilliard ,

John West ,

Charles Scowley ,

John Coe ,

James Bond ,

James Wood ,

Edward Gregory ,

Robert Tomkins ,

Samuel Bowley .

Reference Number: t17961026-1

571. CHARLES HARRIS and ROBERT BUDD were indicted, for that they, in a certain field and open place, near the King's highway, in and upon Charles Hill , did make an assault, on the 11th of September , putting him in fear, and taking from his person, a silver watch, value 50s. a steel chain, value 6d. a base metal seal gilt with gold, value 6d. a man's hat, value 12s. two guineas and four shillings, the goods and monies of the said Charles Hill .

(The case was opened by Mr. Gurney).

CHARLES HILL sworn.

Examined by Mr. Gurney. Q. On the 11th of September, did any thing happen to you? - A. Yes.

Q. Did you know Budd previous to that? - A. I knew his name was Robert, I don't know much of him; we made an agreement, and supped at Mr. William's, the Bayswater coffee-house, and I paid for the supper; when I came out, thirty-five minutes after eight, I looked at my watch, it was a moonlight night; I wished to go along the road home, but he said there were only two fields to go over before we got to Paddington ; we went through one field, and in getting over the second stile, Budd run away; as soon as I got over the stile, I saw a man get out of the ditch; and the man said to me, damn your eyes deliver your money? money! say I, and looked round for Budd, and he was run away; he ran away and left me as soon as the man spoke to me; I was pulling out my money as fast as I could, and he struck me with a great stick, and made my head all over blood, it ran down my shirt, and then he kicked me into the ditch; I had given him my money, and he said, damn your eyes, you have not given me your watch; I had given him two new guineas and some silver, but I cannot justly say how much silver there was; I told him I would give it him, and he began to kick me in three or four places in my left side; I gave him the watch, and then he broke my arm with the stick, and turned it round.

Q. What did he turn it round with? - A.With his hand; after that I jumped over the stile, but with the agony I cried out greatly, and said to him, I am very much obliged to you for what you have done; give me my hat; and he said, damn your eyes I will cut your throat; and he attempted to cut my throat, I don't know what it was with; and having a stiffener in my handkerchief, it did not got through; which you will see by and by, Gentlemen, and the blood flew from my head and face, over his frill, and he went away; and then I went to the Bayswater coffee-house.

Q. Were you able to see the countenance of the person that did this? - A. Yes; that tall man Harris, with the flaxen hair.

Q.Are you quite sure? - A. Yes.

Q. Was there light sufficient to enable you to speak with certainty to his features? - A. Yes; I then went to Dr. Davis's, in Oxford-road; they were taken that night.

Q. When did you see them afterwards? - A. On Thursday, at Bow street, I saw him among a great many other bakers there; and I said that is the man over yonder, I could just see his head.

Q. You were not in a condition to see him before that? - A. No; I was not; the robbery was on the Sunday.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knowlys. Q. This was only moonlight, the light had closed at this time? - A. Yes.

Q. You saw a person coming out of the ditch, and Budd, the moment he called out to deliver the money, ran away? - A. Yes.

Q. I therefore take it you were a great deal frightened by loosing your companion, and the man coming to rob you? - A. I seemed rather alarmed.

Q. How long did this continue do you think? - A. I cannot justly say to a minute, it might be about four or five minutes.

Q. Your fright was not lessened by this treatment of the person? - A. My arm was very painful undoubtedly.

Q. Did you not say now at Bow-street, that it was a person who had very much the appearance of a gentleman, that robbed you, but that you could not swear that Harris was the man? - A. No, I did not; I said, at Bow-street, that that was the man.

Q. Are you sure that you were positive to him then? - A. Yes.

Q. At this time you were under very considerable alarm that the man attacked you, who did attack you? - A. Yes.

Cross-examined by Mr. Jackson, for Budd. Q. All that you know of Budd was, that his name was Robert? - A. Yes.

Q. And all that you have said is as true as that: How long have you been acquainted with Budd? - A. A few weeks.

Q. How many? - A. It might be four.

Q. Not longer? - A. I cannot justly say.

Q. Was it six weeks, do you think? - A. I don't think it was so long as that; I dare say it was about four or six weeks.

Q.And during that four or six weeks, how often might you have been in his company? - A.When my business called me that way, I saw him.

Q.Were you not very frequently together, and very intimate; you know the lad's master is here, and twenty other people? - A. Yes; we used to drink together, but not very frequently; when I used to go up to Paddington, I used to see him, and drink together.

Q. Were you with him three times a week upon an average, during that six weeks? - A. I believe I might.

Q. Did not you go so constantly, that his master chid you, and wanted to know what you wanted? - A. No; I never called upon him but once in my life.

Q. You did not see him so often then? - A. I have met with him going out with his bread.

Q. And yet all that you know about him is, that his name is Robert; I think it has been stated, that you made some appointment upon the Friday before, how you should meet on the Sunday evening? - A. Yes.

Q. I believe it was proposed jocosely between you, that you were to meet under the forfeiture of half-a-crown, or a guinea? - A. I believe it was.

Q. You proposed to him, that if he did not meet you according to the then appointment, he should forfeit half-a-crown, or a guinea? - A. Yes.

Q.What was the house first proposed to meet at? - A. At the Red-lion, in Oxford-road; I went, but did not find him, and I went again, and he was there.

Q. You drank there? - A. No, I did not.

Q. And then you proposed to go to the Yorkshire-stingo? - A. No, Chalk-Farm; but, says he, no; I don't know any thing about going so far as that, says I, then we will go down to Bayswater.

Q.Upon your oath, did not you propose to spend the remainder of the evening at the Yorkshire-stingo? - A. No, it was one evening before.

Q. But, upon the present occasion, he proposed going to Chalk Farm, and you did not like to go there? - A. Yes.

Q. Then, if you had accepted of this man's invitation to go to Chalk-Farm, this scheme could not have taken place? - A. No.

Q. You proposed going to Bayswater as a nearer place? - A. Yes.

Q. YOu called for some supper, and treated the young man? - A. Yes; I paid for it.

Q. So that all these little invitations, the Yorkshire-stingo, a few days before, and the Red-lion, and all this, and yet all that you knew of him was, that his name was Robert? - A. Yes.

Q. You know Jane Smart , the servant of the public-house, at Bayswater? - A. No.

Q. You saw a servant attending? - A. No.

Q. How much did you drink? - A. One pot of beer, and I believe, a shillingsworth of punch, and half a pint of wine.

Q. Was not it a pint? - A. I believe not.

Q. You were pretty liberal in pushing the bottle about? - A. I asked him to drink, and he took it.

Q. The girl did not happen to say, that if you pushed about the liquor so, you would make the boy drunk? - A. She might say I was drunk.

Q. Upon your oath, did not Jane Smart say, if you pushed about the liquor so, you would make the lad drunk? - A. She might say so, very likely, but I don't remember it.

Q. You will not venture to swear she did not say so to you? - A. No.

Q.When you were disposed to depart, you asked this young woman, if it was not a shorter cut over the fields? - A. She came out to the door with Robert; she said to me, you fool, I dare say you know how far it is to Paddington, so often as you go that way.

Q. Upon your oath, did not you ask Jane Smart, if you could go over the fields to Paddington? - A. I would not wish to say any thing but what I know; if I did, it has slipped my memory.

Q. The lad was tipsey then, was not he, he had been drinking with you all day? - A. No; we did not meet till thirty five minutes past seven.

Q. And then this other man said, damn your eyes stop? - A. He said, damn your eyes, deliver your money.

Q. You were extremely frightened? - A. Yes.

Q.By the same rule, your companion might be extremely frightened too? - A. As he left me, I suppose, so I cannot tell any thing about that.

Q.He was on one side of the stile, and you on the other when you were stopped? - A. Yes.

Q. And then he took to his heels and ran away? - A. Yes.

Q. You went from the Red-lion in a coach, to Bayswater? - A. Yes.

Q. It was you that pulled the string, and told the man to go to Bayswater? - A. Yes.

Q. Do you know Mr. Arnold? - A. No.

Q. I believe you happened to say to him that you did not want to hurt Budd, for Budd had not hurt you? - A. I don't know Mr. Arnold.

Q. I ask you, whether you ever said that to anybody? - A.If I was to see the man, I could tell you.

Q. But have not you said so to any person, that you did not want to hurt Budd, for Budd never hurt you? - A. If I was to see the man, I could tell you.

Court. Q. Did you ever say so to any body? - A. I might have said so.

Mr. Gurney. Q. Have you ever had any persons coming to you, talking to you about this business then? - A. Yes; and offering me money.

Q. Recollect yourself, and be quite certain, whether the proposal to go to the Bayswater coffee-house came from you or from Budd? - A. I believe, from me.

JOHN WILLIAMS sworn.

Examined by Mr. Gurney. Q. I keep the Bayswater coffee-house.

Q. Do you recollect the prosecutor and Budd supping at your house on Sunday evening? - A. I did not see them.

Q. That evening did you see Harris at your house? - A. About a quarter before nine, Harris came to my house and ordered sixpennyworth of rum and water.

Q. Did he sit down in the tap-room? - A. He was offered a candle to go into a room, but he would not, he sat down at the bar.

Q. Did any conversation take place while you were there? - A. Yes; he had two sixpennyworths of rum and water, and while drinking, he produced a stick, which I claimed to be my stick; he said, there was his fellow-servant, and he must go, and he went off directly; he had called for a third sixpennyworth, but did not stop to drink it.

Q. Had you ever lent that stick? - A. Yes; to a baker that he was journeyman to, Mr. Bourne, baker, in King's-street, but from the circumstance of his bringing a leg of mutton to be dressed at my house, I recollected it.

Q. Do you know whether they had ever lived together as fellow-servants? - A. Harris told me, he lived at Mr. Hester's; Budd I know nothing at all of.

Q.What sort of a stick was this? - A. It is here, a painted stick.

Q. A large or small one? - A. A middling size stick.

Q. Soon after Harris went out, did the prosecutor, Hill, come back to you? - A. Yes; very much in blood, with his arm broke; upon that I ordered the man to cut his hair off, and wash him with brandy; our people all knew Budd.

Q.After that, did you go or send any body in pursuit of the person? - A. I sent my waiters, I did not go myself.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knapp. Q. Harris sat down at the bar; he told you where he lived, at Mr. Hester's? - A. Yes.

Q. That was the truth, was not it? - A. Yes.

Q. He paid, of course, for the rum and water that he had? - A. He paid two sixpennyworths.

Mr. Knapp. Q.That was all he had? - A. Yes.

Cross-examined by Mr. Jackson. Q. How many fields are there between Paddington and Bayswater? - A. I believe there may be four or five fields; but there are two or three ways, the way they were going four or five fields.

Q. This place is about half-way? - A. Yes.

Court. Q. When the prosecutor and Budd were at your house, where were they? - A. In the taproom; five or six of the waiters were at supper at the same time.

Court. Q. Harris was in the bar? - A. Yes.

Court. Q. Did you observe any conversation between them? - A. No; only from information, the bar is open to the tap-room.

JAMES POLE sworn.

I was at the Bayswater coffee-house the night this happened; I saw two men at supper there, but I cannot say who they were; I came in promiscuously.

Q. Did the two persons leave the tap-room while you were in it? - A. Yes.

Q. Did you see any other person at the bar? - A. Not that I noticed.

Q.Were you there when the prosecutor came back covered with blood? - A. Yes; we took him to the surgeon's, and then we went to look for the prisoners at the bar.

Q. Did you go to the house of Harris's master? - A. Yes; I waited there sometime, and he was not come home; he came home, I suppose, about eleven o'clock.

Q. Who was with you at the time you were there? - A. Three more that went to join me, and one of the constables of Paddington; when he came home he passed through the shop, and came backward with this stick in his hand, and a hat in his hand tied up in a handkerchief; he went through the shop as quick as a dart; it was in the dark, and we went to look after him and found him in the necessary; we found this stick among the wood that was for lighting the oven in the morning; when I found the stick I took Harris by the collar and told him he was my prisoner, upon strong suspicion of robbing a man near Bayswater; and he said, he had not been at Bayswater at all; after we had lodged him at a watch-house, we went back to Mr. Hester's to see if we could find the hat and watch, and we found the hat thrown over a wall; the man is here that found it the next day; we found the watch thrown into a shed among the shavings that were there for the use of the oven; I was present when Baker, the patrol, found them.

Q.Has Baker got them now? - A. Yes.

Q.Were you present at the apprehension of Budd? - A. Yes, the same night about two o'clock in the morning, at his master's house.

Q. Was he in bed? - A. No; in his master's shop; the patroles went back with him

what passed pretty well; I told him we wanted his man Robert.

Q. Did any conversation pass between you and Budd? - A. No, no conversation at all; the patroles searched him, but I was not present.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knowlys. Q. At the time you took Harris was he in liquor or not? - A. I imagined he had been cheerful.

Q. Did not he appear to be drunk? - A. I cannot say he was drunk; he had been drinking certainly.

Q. YOu found nothing upon Harris, no watch, or any thing of that kind? - A. We found the watch in the shed.

Cross-examined by Mr. Jackson. Q. You found Budd at work? - A. He was not at home when we first went.

Q.When you did find him he was at work? - A. Yes.

Court. Q.What was the hat tied up in? - A. An handkerchief with a stain of port wine or damsontart, or something of that sort; I believe it was the prisoner's handkerchief.

Mr. Gurney. Q. When was it you first went to Budd's master, when he was not at home? - A. It might be a little after ten.

ANN GORDON sworn.

Examined by Mr. Gurney. Q. You are housekeeper to Mr. Williams? - A. Yes.

Q. Do you recollect the prosecutor and Budd supping at your master's house on the Sunday night? - A. Yes.

Q. They were in the tap-room? - A. Yes.

Q. Did you see the prisoner Harris while they were there? - A. Yes; he had two sixpennyworths of rum and water, I made it; he stood at the corner of the bar fronting the tap-room, at the outside of the bar.

Q. Could he command a view of the tap-room? - A. Yes; Budd and the prosecutor was just done supper, and drinking.

Q. Upon their leaving your master's house, did you observe any thing? - A. Yes; the moment Budd and the other went out of the room he snatched the stick from the bar and seemed in great confusion, and went away immediately after them; I am certain he is the person.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knapp. Q. How many persons were in the tap-room at this time? - A. Nobody but themselves and the waiters.

Q. So that Budd and Hill were eating their suppers together, Harris had his rum and water by himself at the bar? - A. Yes.

Q. How far from where Budd and Hill were? - A. As far as from here to the bench.

Q. You heard Williams claim that as his stick? - A.Yes; and Harris instantly took it up and went away; Hill and Budd had been gone about one minute.

Q. Were you near enough to the door to see which way they went? - A. No.

WILLIAM SHORE sworn.

Examined by Mr. Gurney. I keep the Wheatsheaf at Paddington.

Q. On the night of this robbery did you see either of the prisoners at your house? - A. Yes; Harris came first a little before ten o'clock.

Q. Did he bring any thing with him? - A. He brought a bundle in with him.

Q. What sort of a bundle was it? - A. It was a hat tied up in an handkerchief; he threw it over into the bar, and desired it might be taken care of; I examined it to see what was in the handkerchief, and I saw it was a hat; after he had been there about ten minutes or thereabouts, the prisoner Budd came in, and enquired if there was any of his acquaintance or his fellow servants there; I told him there was Harris in the parlour, he had got some rum and water, and he went in to him.

Q. How long did they remain together? - A. Till about half past ten, and then I believe they went away together; Harris took the bundle with him.

Q. Did you observe any thing in Harris's hand besides the bundle? - A. Only a stick.

Q. Look at that stick; was it that sort of a stick? - A. Yes; such a kind of stick as that.

Cross-examined by Mr. Jackson. Q. I believe your's is a public-house of considerable resort? - A. Yes.

Q.Situated at Paddington? - A. Yes.

Q. Many of the journeymen pass their evenings at your house? - A. They call in a morning and evening.

Q. Many of the journeymen baker s? - A. Yes.

Q. And Budd came in and asked if any of his felow servants or acquaintances were there? - A. Yes.

Q. They were fellow servants together? - A. Yes, they were.

Q. And several of those bakers that frequent your house have occasionally worked together? - A. Yes.

Q. And that did not strike you as being extraordinary that he should ask for any of his acquaintances or fellow servants? - A. No.

Q. He did not take the bundle till he went away, nor open it? - A. No.

CHRISTOPHER CREEDLAND sworn.

Examined by Mr. Gurney. I am an officer; I apprehended the prisoner Budd at his master's house; I told him it was on suspicion of a robbery committed that night; he desired me to let him go up stairs and put on his clothes he had just pulled off; in his box, there was

some money lying upon the clothes. I searched Harris at the watch-house, after Pole had taken him there, and found upon him a watch belonging to a publican in Oxford-street, a new guinea, and five shillings and threepence-halfpenny; in his coat pocket. I found a handkerchief stained with red wine, I went into the yard and desired Cooke to go up into the shed, and I handed him a candle, and desired him to look about to see if he could find any thing, and I saw him bring out a handkerchief.

JOHN BAKER sworn.

I found the watch in the shed, at the back part of the shed, of his master's house, close to where he was taken; I found it the next morning as soon as his master opened the door.

Q. You saw Harris? - A. Yes.

Q. Was there any stain at all upon his clothes? - A. Yes; there was a spot upon his nankeen pantaloons. (Produces the clothes the prosecutor had on, which were very bloody).

Mr. Gurney. Q. Is the stock at all cut? - A. I don't see that it is.

Q.(To Baker.) How far from the ground did you find the watch? - A. Upon the ground; the glass is broke.

JOHN COOKE sworn.

I apprehended Harris; I found the hat close by where I took the prisoner, it was thrown over a wall at the bottom of the garden.

Hill. This is my watch, there is a name on the dial-plate.

Q. Look at that hat? - A. This is my hat.

Q.At the time you lost your watch, was the chain in this broken condition? - A. No; it was a little longer, and it had a key and a seal to it.

Q. Was the glass whole or broken at that time? - A. Whole.

Mr. Knowlys. Q. Did you not say, when you went back to the house at Bayswater, that you had been robbed by a person of the appearance of a gentleman, but that you could not swear to his person? - A. No, I did not; when I first came in, I said, is Robert here? and they told me directly, seeing the situation I was in, to cut my hair, and I don't know that I said any thing of the kind.

Mr. Knowlys. (To Cooke.) Q. Upon whose premises did you find the hat? - A. I cannot say; it was joining to Mr. Hester's; I cannot tell who it belongs to.

Mr. Gurney. (To Williams.) Q. When the prosecutor came back in that bloody condition, did he describe the person that robbed him? - A. He said, it was a person of the appearance of a gentleman.

Q.Did he say whether he should or not know him again? - A.Not that I know.

Mr. Knowlys. Q. Was Jane Smart at your house when he came back? - A. Yes.

Mr. Gurney. Q. Look at that stick; is that the stick that Harris had with him? - A. Yes; I know the stick, it is an American one.

Mr. Gurney. (To Mrs. Gordon.) Q. Did you hear the prosecutor describe the person of the man that robbed him? - A. I cannot say; I was so confused, and had so strong a suspicion myself of the man, that I cannot say; he said he had the appearance of a gentleman; the prosecutor was fainting.

For Harris.

JANE SMART sworn.

Examined by Mr. Knowlys. I am servant to Mr. Williams, at the Bayswater coffee-house.

Q. Do you recollect Budd and the prosecutor being there? - A. Yes, very well; because I sat down in their company.

Q. Did you see the prisoner, Harris, there? - A. No; only I saw some man there, but I don't know who; I and my fellow servant went out with Budd and Hill.

Q. Did any body follow them the way they were going? - A. No; for Hill went into the field, and I stopped back with Budd several minutes, and there was not a soul went by; we stood five or six minutes, I am sure, at the bridge going out against the green.

Q. You are sure nobody went past? - A. I am sure there was not a soul.

Q. Did any body go out of your bouse nearly about the time that Budd and Hill went out? - A. I saw some man go out at my left hand, when I went out, but I don't know who.

Q. Did he go in the direction that Budd and Hill went? - A. No; we went to the right, and that man turned to the left.

Q. Were you at the house when this poor fellow Hill came back, so much hurt? - A. I and my fellow servant met him coming back.

Q. Did he describe the person that robbed him? - A. I asked him; he said to me, is the young baker come back, meaning Budd.

Q. Did he tell you by whom he had been robbed? - A. No; he said he did not know; he told me over and over again, he did not know.

Q. Did you ask him whether he should know the person? - A. No; but I asked if he knew who had done it, and he said, no; he said the man that did it appeared like a gentleman.

Mr. Jackson. Q. You waited upon Hill and Budd? - A. No; a little girl waited upon them, I was sitting in their company and drank with them.

Q. You saw what liquor they had? - A. Yes.

Q. Did they seem to be drinking pretty freely? - A. They were very good friends; and they had

a pint of wine and a shilling's worth of punch; Budd drank three glasses one after the other; and I said, Robert, how can you drink so; and he said, then you drink it for me; I said, I don't drink red wine; I said, to oblige him, I would drink it.

Cross-examined by Mr. Gurney. Q. You and Budd are old acquaintances? - A. I have seen him with bread, I knew his name was Robert.

Q. You know Harris pretty well? - A. Not till he came to Bow-street.

Q.When the prosecutor came back, and you asked him who had robbed him, he said, he did not know who he was? - A. He said, is the young baker come back; I said, no; he said, he had been robbed of his watch and five guineas; he said over and over again, that he did not know the man that robbed him.

Q. Who was there? - A. Mr. Gatefield, at the Crown.

Q. Was not Mr. Williams there? - A. No; he was at home; this was in the road; me and my fellow servant, and Mr. Gatefield and his sister were there; they had a lighted candle in their hand.

JAMES CLARKE sworn.

I live in Wardour-street, Soho; I am a baker: Harris lived with me in 1789; I have known him near six years to bear a very good character; he lived with me near twelve months, and was very sober and honest.

WILLIAM DRAKE sworn.

I live at Pimlico, I am a baker: I have known the prisoner, Harris, three years and a half, he is an exceeding good servant, a very honest man, and a very harmless inossensive man.

WILLIAM BOXALL sworn.

I am a baker, in King-street, Golden-square: I have known Harris about five years, he has lived with me twice; he was very honest when he lived with me.

JAMES GRAY sworn.

I am a baker, at Highgate: I have known Harris three years and a half; he is a very honest character; he lived with me about eighteen months; he is a very honest man; he left me upon the ground of being ill, or else I would not have parted from him.

JAMES FOREST sworn.

I am a baker, in King-street, St. James's square: I have known Harris four years and a half; he bears a very good character.

WILLIAM MILLS sworn.

I have been a linen-draper; I am not any business now; I live at Bristol: I was in town seven months, and during that time, I was very intimate with Harris; I never knew any thing but that he was strictly honest, during that time, and he has spent a great part of his time with me.

(For Budd). JAMES BRADFORD sworn.

I have known Budd, three years; he lived servant with me eleven months; he was exceedingly honest and sober.

JOHN STOCK sworn.

I am a baker: Budd lived with me from the 9th of January last till April; he was very sober and industrious.

JAMES CLARKE again.

In the summer of 1793, the prisoner Budd lived with me seven weeks, he bore a very good character at that time.

JOHN ARNOLD sworn.

Examined by Mr. Jackson. Q. Do you know Hill, the prosecutor? - A. Yes; very well.

Q. Did any conversation pass between him and you respecting this charge? - A. Yes.

Q. Did he happen to say any thing as to his belief concerning Budd? - A. Yes; he said he believed Budd to be a very good sort of a young fellow, he respected him much, and he should be very sorry to hurt him, on any account; he said he had known him about six weeks.

Q. Did he happen to say any thing respecting his belief whether Budd hurt him or not? - A. He said Budd did not hurt him: I have known him for years, and all the whole family; he bore a very good honest character; he came to me, and from me he was recommended to Mr. Bradford.

Cross-examined by Mr. Gurney. Q. What are you? - A. A baker.

Q.Where had you this conversation with the prosecutor? - A. At the Three Tuns, in Red cross-street.

Q. You made it your business to find him out? - A. Yes, and his brother made an appointment with him, at my desire.

Q. And there you drank a little together? - A. I believe the gentlemen did not drink any.

Q. At whose desire did you get this conversation? - A. By Budd's.

Q. Was it by Budd's desire that you made any offer to Hill, upon this occasion? - A. I did not make any offer.

Q. Did you make no offer to the prosecutor not to appear against Budd? - A.No.

Q. Who else was there? - A. One Mr. Sylvester, a friend of Mr. Harris's.

Q.You are sure you made no offer to him not to prosecute Budd? - A. I did not.

Q. Are you sure you made no offer to him not to prosecute Harris? - A. I am sure I did not; I am but a poor man, and it was not in my power to make any offer at all.

For the Prosecution.

JAMES PITCAIRNE sworn.

Examined by Mr. Gurney. I was present when

Arnold and several others made offers to the prosecutor for Budd; I saw their friends, I think, five different days; I saw them that Hill should not see them; I would not enter into any treaty with them.

Q. Did Arnold make any offer? - A.They wished me to come to some terms, as I had a pretty considerable influence over Hill, they wished me to persuade Hill to receive money for him not to appear against the prisoner at the bar.

Q. Are you sure Arnold was one of the persons that made an offer? - A. Yes; he was in company at the same time, at the public-house in Red-cross-street.

Q. What sum was offered? - A. The morning the trial was to have come on last session, a man, in company with Arnold, came and said he would give one hundred guineas; and as Hill might not be able to do his work again, it was likewise in his power to put him into something that might be of service to him during his life.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knapp. Q. Arnold appeared to be the friend of Budd? - A. Yes.

Cross-examined by Mr. Jackson. Q. You say they and they, which of the theys do you mean? - A. Arnold was one of them.

Q. What were the precise words that Arnold used? - A. They wanted me to come to some terms.

Q. Who were they? - A. Mr. Arnold was one; he wished me to come to some treaty.

Q. What were the words that he used? - A. I cannot tell the words he used, because I told them justice must take place.

Q. There were five or six people present? - A. Yes.

Q. And that five or six times during the course of the same day? - A. Yes; some of them; not altogether.

Q. Were there five or six people present each time? - A. No.

Q. How often did you see Arnold, during that day? - A.Twice, if not three times.

Q. Now state the positive words that he used to you, and who was by when he used them? - A. There was another man, but his name I don't know: on the Wednesday the trial was to have come on, I met Arnold and another man by accident, near St. Bartholomew's hospital; he wished to see Mr. Hill, and to come to where he lodged, to enter into some treaty with him.

Q. Do you mean to say, upon your oath, he used these words-I want to come into some treaty with him? - A. Yes; that he might do something for him not to appear against the prisoner.

Q. When did you see Arnold again? - A.They were to come to Red-cross-street; they met at the public-house, Mr. Arnold was one, and another of the name of King, I believe; there were five or six in all.

Q.They were not all friends of Budd? - A. No; some friends of Harris's.

Q. And some strangers perhaps? - A. No; they were all friends of the two.

Q. What did Arnold say to you, then? - A. Arnold did not say any thing particular more than the other.

Q. I ask you again, what Arnold said upon that occasion? - A. I cannot say.

Q. Did he say any thing to you? - A. Yes; but I cannot recollect his words.

Q. Where was it this person talked of giving 100 guineas? - A. He came to me to the Jerusalem coffee-house; I keep the Jerusalem coffee-house.

Q. Did he come to you alone? - A. Yes; I believe he was Harris's friend.

Q. Don't you know, that Arnold is as poor as a church mouse? - A. He may be, there was no money mentioned by Arnold.

Harris, GUILTY . Death . (Aged 22.)

Budd, NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

Reference Number: t17961026-2

572. GEORGE BARLOW was indicted for that he, in the King's highway, upon Mary Clarke , did make an assault, on the 1st of September , putting her in fear, and taking from her person three men's smock-frocks, value 18s. the property of the said Mary .

(The witnesses were examined apart at the request of the prisoner).

MARY CLARKE sworn.

I am a single person , I take in work : On the 1st of September, I was robbed in a passage called Abel's-building, Chamber's-street , about twenty minutes, or half an hour after nine in the evening; I was going from home, with four frock-smocks in my apron; I had been to the people that make them for me, to get them together to carry home at seven o'clock in the morning; in Chamber's-street, I saw the prisoner, he looked at me, and I at him, he passed me; I came to the light of a baker's shop, he looked over my shoulders, he then passed me, and went into Abel's passage, and stood there; when I attempted to go through, I went to pass him, and he stopped me, and with his right hand pressed me against the wall; he asked me what I had there, I said, nothing for him; he then pulled my apron to get them from me, and broke both the strings of my apron; I held it fast as long as I could, I struggled very much, he overpowered me, and took three of them from me; I cried,"stop-thief," several times; when he had got them, he ran from me into Rosemary lane, and I saw him no more tall the 29th, which was that day four weeks, then he was taken into custody.

Q. Did you ever get the frocks again? - A. No.

Q. Can you be sure of the man? - A. I am positive to the man, I saw him by the light of two shops before he went into the passage.

MARY COOPER sworn.

Q. Were you with Mrs. Clarke at this time? - A. I was not; I heard the cry of stop-thief, on the 1st of September, I was sitting in my house, in Chamber's street, nearly opposite.

Q. What time of night was it? - A.Twenty minutes or half an hour after nine; I saw Mary Clarke standing as if she was going to faint, she knew me immediately, her apron was very much torn.

Q. Did you see any man? - A. No, I did not.

ROBERT DAWSON sworn.

I took the prisoner; on the 1st of September, about half after nine at night, I was coming home, I live in Chamber's-street, I saw the prisoner in the alley as I stood at my door; the prosecutrix came by me, and spoke to me, and I to her; I came out about half an hour after, and heard the report of the robbery, and gave information to the officer, I took him on the 29th.

JOHN NOWLAND sworn.

I am a constable; Dawson gave the information; he asked me, if I knew George Barlow , I said, I did, I had a warrant against him; he desired me, if I took him, to let him know; we sought after him a long while, and Dawson took him, and delivered him to me; I put him in the lock-up house, and brought the woman, and asked her, if she knew any body there, and she pointed out the prisoner, and said, she should know him among a thousand.

Prisoner's defence. I have a witness to prove I was in their company at the time she says she was robbed.

For the Prisoner.

WILLIAM CARFRAE sworn.

Q. He calls you to give an account where he was this night - what night was it? - A. One afternoon, I was along with him, and he pawned his jacket; the next day, I called upon him before six o'clock to go to work, we got no work, we went down to Blackwall to see if the Indiamen were working out; we came to Poplar, and had two or three pots of beer, we then came to the Apple-tree, in Wapping, and sat there till dark; a man came in, and asked him to drink, he called for a pint of beer, and put it into the pot we had; I looked at the clock, and told Barlow it was time for me to go, it was half after nine o'clock; we had another pot of beer.

Q. What day was it? - A. I believe it was in August he pawned his jacket.

HUGH BIGGS sworn.

Q. Were you with the prisoner the night the robbery was committed? - A. I don't know whether it was the night or not, I remember it was the 1st of September; I went into Mr. Wilson's, the sign of the Apple-tree, at Wapping Old-stairs, I called for a pint of beer, and Barlow and another man were sitting together with a pot of beer before them; Barlow asked me to drink with them, I put my pint into their pot, and we sat and drank together.

Q. How long did you stay there? - A. I looked at the clock when I went in, and it was a quarter after nine o'clock.

Q. Was Carfrae there? - A. I don't know the other man's name.

Q. The man that has been called in? - A. Yes.

Q. How came you to fix on the 1st of September? - A.August was a hard month for work, and as it was the 1st of Sept. I said, I hope God will send some work this month, I was idle that day.

Q. How long did you stay? - A. I cannot say how long, we drank two pots of beer to the best of my knowledge; we staid, I believe, three quarters of an hour, I cannot swear to that.

Q.(To Dawson.) Do you know the Apple-tree, in Wapping? - A. Yes.

Q. How far is that from Chamber's-street? - A. About a mile; I went into a house in Rosemary-lane, that night, and saw the prisoner there, with two or three other persons.

Jury. (To Mrs. Clarke.) Q. Whether you fixed on the person after he was taken, or was he pointed out to you? - A. I saw him at Lambeth-street, there were five or six persons, nobody pointed him out to me, I knew him directly, and should if there had been fifty more.

GUILTY , Death . (Aged 32.)

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

Reference Number: t17961026-3

573. WILLIAM THOMPSON was indicted for stealing, on the 11th of October , eighteen pounds of spermaceti candles, value 40s. 6d. the property of Sarah Bull .

SARAH BULL sworn.

I am a tallow-chandler , in Gerard-street, Soho : On the 11th of October, about half past three in the afternoon, I was asked, by several persons, if I had lost any candles, they brought in three papers of candles, which I knew to be mine.

SAMUEL SWINNEY sworn.

I am a shoe-maker; I was coming by Mrs. Bull's house, and I saw the prisoner go into her house, and bring out these candles, between two and three o'clock, I don't suppose he was a minute in the house; he winked at me, and asked me if I

would have a shilling, or any thing to drink; I told him I would have nothing at all, and he went away; I holloaed after him, I was afraid to run after him, because I had sprained my wrist; he had the candles under his great coat; I had my hand tied up; as soon as I laid hold of him with the other hand, he struck me twice over the head, and I begged another man to stop him, and he laid down the goods, and I took them up and carried them to this woman, and she knew the goods, and he was carried to Marlborough-street; Mrs. Bull has had them ever since.

Thomas Fitzgerald was called, but not appearing, his recognizance was ordered to be estreated; (the candles were produced.)

Mrs. Bull. These are the candles that were delivered to me by Swinney, I know them to be mine; I missed them from a shelf in the back part of the shop.

Prisoner's defence. I am very ready to serve his Majesty by sea or land.

GUILTY . (Aged 20.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-4

574. ANN KENNEDY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 16th of July , twenty-seven yards of silk ribbon, value 13s. two fans, value 20d. six yards of black silk lace, value 30s. thirty-eight yards of silk lace, value 3l. eleven ounces of thread, value 5s. eleven hanks of thread, value 2s. two papers of pins, value 10d. eight pair of cotton hose, value 21s. a silk cloak, value 21s. five yards of black silk, value 15s. and twenty-five yards of black lace, value 18s. the property of George Eyston and John Crooke .

MARY BAKER sworn.

I was servant to Messrs. Eyston and Crooke, haberdashers and hosiers in Pall-mall : In July last the prisoner was house-keeper and cook ; on the 15th of July, I asked her for the key of the room where the bread and cheese was usually kept; that might be eleven o'clock at night; I wanted the key to let the cat in to catch the rais and mice; the door was left open, the kitchen door was open which goes into this room; the next day, about six o'clock in the morning, I came into the kitchen; I was the first that came down.

Q. There was nobody up besides you? - A. Not then; Mr. Eyston came down and went into the place, I followed, and he brought out a box; it was not locked; he looked into it, and there he saw some black silk, which he claimed to be his own; I was sent to call the prisoner down, which I did; when she came down Mr. Crooke and Mr. Eyston asked her to walk into the parlour, I did not go into the parlour; she said, she must go down stairs, and they desired I would go with her.

Q.To the necessary? - A. She did not go there; she went down stairs; she untied her pockets and gave them to me in a passage below, and in giving me her pockets she put out of her pocket a thread-case, with a pawnbroker's duplicate: I picked it up, and gave it to Kennedy; she asked me to go into that room and take the things that were in a box that was there; I told her I could not touch any thing that was there, and she put her hands together and said, then I am ruined, I am ruined; she went up stairs afterwards, and I did not see her any more for some time; after that I went up into the parlour, and saw her begging Mr. Eyston for pardon; he said, he could not pardon her, the law must take place; and I did not hear any thing more till the officer was going to take her into the coach; I took her cloak, and she begged him not to be too hard with her; and he told her it was not him that could hurt her, it must be those gentlemen.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knapp. Q. This is the place where the bread and cheese is kept in the house? - A. Yes.

Q. All the different servants in the house go into this place? - A. No; I have gone in.

Q. You have known it perhaps before, when the key has been left in the door? - A. She never left the key in the door unless she went just by.

Q. If she happened to be by. she has left the key in the door before? - A. Yes; but not to go out of the kitchen.

Q.When she was asking pardon of Mr. Eyston, you did not hear what he had said first? - A. No.

Q. What box are you speaking of? - A. A deal box; she had had it for some time.

Q. It was used to put candles in? - A. I never saw any other.

Q. It is not her bed-room? - A.No.

GEORGE EYSTON sworn.

The prisoner was my cook and house-keeper; she lived with me about nine months; I placed a considerable confidence in her for a considerable time; but I had reason to suspect her of having taken several articles out of the shop; and I discovered upon her a key which opened my bookcase; that was on Saturday the 16th; when I sent for her down stairs to examine her keys, she at first refused to let me see her keys, and she told me that I should not see them unless I had proper authority; I therefore sent for an officer; but in the mean time she said, I need not send for an officer, that she would let me have her keys; I went up stairs to her bed-room with Mr. Crooke, and she opened her trunk before us, and we did not find

any thing in particular in the trunk, but a new cloak trimmed with lace; she was told, I believe, by Mr. Crooke, that was stolen: she said, it was not; Mr. Crooke, I believe, asked her where she had got it; and she said, that her husband bought it for her; I had great reason to suppose her husband did not buy it for her; I cannot swear to that cloak; I after that took her down stairs into the parlour; I told her to produce all her keys, and I found a key that opened my book-case; in my book-case I usually deposited the key of the shop on Sundays, and other keys; and during the conversation in the parlour, she was asked what she had taken.

Q.Did you then, or any time after, tell her it would be better for her to confess? - A. I am certain I did not.

Q. Nor did your partner in your presence and hearing? - A.No.

Q. Nor that it would be the worse for her if she did not confess? - A.No; early on Saturday morning I went down stairs to see if Mary Baker had got the keys of her, which I had the day before desired her to do, if she could by any means; I went down, and in this room, of which she kept the key, I found the several articles that are specified in the indictment, the officer has them here; several Monday morning we had found that several bundles had been opened, and that led me to suspect her, and she was frequently alone in the house on a Sunday.

Q. When you found these things, you took her into a room? - A. Yes; Mr. Crooke and myself were there, and her; and Mr. Crooke asked her what was the reason of her taking those things; and she said, it was to pay her lodgings, that she had been in some time before; she went down upon her knees and asked my pardon, and hoped that I should be merciful to her; she afterwards said, she was very unwell, and desired to go down stairs; and I desired the servant to follow her, and take her pockets.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knapp. Q. What is your partner's name? - A. John Crooke.

Q. Are there any other persons interested in your business? - A. There are not.

JAMES KENNEDY sworn.

I am an officer, (produces the property); I had these things out of a box in the prosecutor's kitchen, I took them out of the box myself in the prosecutor's presence; I have had them ever since; after I had taken the property out of the box, the prosecutor said that was his property; I had not then the prisoner in custody; I went over all the house searching for the prisoner, and I found her without the leads upon the top of the house; I told her I was a constable, and she must go with the; she went down upon her knees and begged for mercy, I told her, I had nothing to do with that.

Prosecutor. These six yards of black lace have our private mark upon them, and here is some ribband that had our private mark upon it.

Court. Q.Did you sell her any of this ribband? - A. No; here is another piece that I can swear to, and I believe all the rest to be my property.

Mr. Knapp. Q.When you sell these things, the marks remain upon them? - A. Yes; very often this silk has the mark penciled upon it.

Q.Will you venture to swear that none of these articles had been sold from your shop? - A. No; I cannot swear any such thing.

Q. You did not sell any to the prisoner? - A. No.

Q. You have shopmen that serve? - A. Yes.

Q. You will not undertake to swear that they have not sold it? - A.They would have told me of such a thing, if they had.

Q. But if they had been disposed to be dishonest towards you, they might have done it without your knowledge? - A. Yes.

Kennedy. (Produces a duplicate.) I had this from the girl Mary Baker .

JOSEPH HUXLEY sworn.

I am a pawnbroker; I know the prisoner: on the 13th of June, she came to our house with five yards of mode and twenty-five yards of lace, (produces them); she said she brought them for a Mrs. Wilkinson; she said her name was Ann Kennedy .

Q. Did she come more than once? - A. Not that I remember.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knapp. Q. She gave you her real name? - A. Yes.

Q.And you know Mrs. Wilkinson? - A. Yes.

Mr. Eyston. I really believe this to be mine, but I cannot swear to it.

Court. Q. Did you lose any of that kind? - A. I cannot say that we could have missed it.

Prisoner's defence. I am quite innocent of the charge; I have never varied in keeping my books regularly; my master owes me 3l. wages, and 8s. or 9s. in my weekly book; I have been in prison fourteen weeks; he took my cloak out of my box, and said I had taken it out of his shop; the property is my own, and he cannot swear to it; I always had charge of that girl; I have come home on a Sunday, and the shopman, and all have threatened me; it is a piece of spite, they told me they would pick a hole in my skirt; I had the care of all of them, and that made them pick a hole in my skirt, because I would not let them have things of my master's; and I used to tell them my master was a

very miserly man; that cloak belongs to Mrs. Wilkinson, it is not his.(The prisoner called one witness who gave her a good character).

GUILTY . (Aged 40.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice HEATH.

Reference Number: t17961026-5

575. JEREMIAH SULLIVAN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 9th of October , a silver watch, value 40s. a great coat, value 12s. another coat, value 8s. two linen shirts, value 6s. a waistcoat, value 2s. a linen towel, value 4d. and a yard of blue cloth, value 2d. the property of Daniel Foster .

DANIEL FOSTER sworn.

I am a chimney-sweeper: last Sunday was a fortnight, I lost the things mentioned in the indictment, from my lodgings; I did not see the prisoner take them; but after he was taken up, he confessed to me that he had taken them, and that he had made away with them.

JAMES JONES sworn.

I am a pawnbroker: the prisoner pawned a watch at our house, on the 10th of October, (produces it), I lent him half a guinea upon it.

Prosecutor. This is my watch.

JOHN HILL sworn.

(Produces two coats.) I took these coats in of the prisoner, on the 10th of Oct. he was in a chimneysweeper's dress, and the coats were sooty; I had no suspicion that they were not his own.

Prosecutor. They are both my coats.

Prisoner's defence. I had the things given me by a girl.

GUILTY . (Aged 18.)

Confined six months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

Reference Number: t17961026-6

576. ROBERT RAW was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 11th of October , 9lb of tallow, value 5s. and two pieces of wood, value 5s. the property of Jesse Russell .

Second Count. Laying it to be the property of William Mashiter , George Byng , Edward l'Anson , and Thomas Platt .

JESSE RUSSELL sworn.

I am a soap maker ; I imported some tallow, and landed it at Mr. Mashiter's wharf ; it was stolen off the wharf; I know nothing of the robbery. There was some soap found upon him, two pieces of wood belonging to a cask of pearl-ash, which I imported at the same time, and which has my mark upon it, and the mark of the country.

STEPHEN TEW sworn.

I am clerk to Mr. Russell; I went down in the morning (this tallow was supposed to be stolen) and saw the tallow and the cask of pearl-ash, it was marked with an R in a triangle; I left the wharf at one o'clock, at which time there was some loose tallow in a mat; I desired the prisoner to send it up in the cart; he is a servant to Mr. Mashiter; there was some tallow received by the cart, we don't know how much.

Q. Do you know that it did not come to hand? - A. I do not.

ROBERT DAWSON sworn.

I am an officer: On the 11th of this month, I was in company with Griffiths and Nowlan, in East-Smithfield, near Tower-hill, a little before seven o'clock in the evening, I observed the prisoner, with a bundle under one arm, and two pieces of wood under the other, go into an old iron shop; upon that we suspected the goods that he had were stolen; we followed him in, and found the tallow untied, and the man of the house with the scales ready to weigh it; we secured him, and brought him away; he made a very stout resistance, we were a long time securing him, and when he was secured, we asked him where he was going with it, and he said he was going to Mr. Russell's with it; it was quite a contrary road where we met him from Mr. Mashiter's wharf to Mr. Russell's.

JOHN NOWLAN sworn.

I am a constable (produces the heads of the cask and the tallow); I was the first person that went into the iron shop where he went to sell it; the man that the house belonged to had the scales in his hand and was going to put it into the scales; he told me he was going to Mr. Russell's; I asked him if he had any more about him, and he said, no; and I took some from under his waistcoat, and Griffiths took some from the other side.

Russell. I know this tallow to be mine; it is a particular kind of tallow that comes from Siberia; and the heads I know to be mine, by the sale mark of the country, and my own mark.

Prisoner's defence. The clerk desired me to take this tallow home; I forgot it till night, and then I took it to carry it to Mr. Russell's, and these gentlemen stopped me; I told them I had got some tallow of Mr. Russell's, and was going to carry it there; one of them cut me open by a blow upon the nose with a stick; I never offered to sell it.(The prisoner called three witnesses who gave him a good character).

GUILTY . (Aged 36).

Publickly whipped 150 yards upon the quays , and confined six months in the House of Correction .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice HEATH.

Reference Number: t17961026-7

577. MARGARET ANDERSON was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 3d of May , two linen sheets, value 7s. a copper saucepan, value 2s. 6d. a copper tea kettle, value 3s. a flat iron, value 1s. a feather bed, value 30s. a feather bolster, value 3s. and a looking glass, value 2s. the goods of Tho. Graham , in a lodging-room .

THOMAS GRAHAM sworn.

The prisoner came to lodge with me the 3d of May; I don't know any thing of the robbery; she paid her rent pretty well.

- GRAHAM sworn.

I am the wife of the prosecutor; I missed the things in the indictment about six weeks ago; she had not quitted the lodging at the time I took her up; I found some of them at the pawnbroker's; she said her husband was a watchmaker, but I never saw any husband.

WILLIAM BOWDEN sworn.

(Produces a sheet). I took in this sheet of the prisoner on the 14th of May; she pledged it in the name of Watson.

Prosecutrix. This is my sheet, it has my needlework in it.

WILLIAM THOMPSON sworn.

I am a pawnbroker, (produces a saucepan and a flat iron); I received them of the prisoner at the bar, the saucepan in June, and the iron in July, I have lost the duplicates, they are mislaid.

Prosecutrix. These are mine.

Prisoner's defence. When I took these lodgings, Mrs. Graham left these things in the room; she does not live in the house, she comes to collect her rents on a Sunday morning. Last Sunday week I left the things in the room, and when I came back the bed was gone; was I to die the next moment I know no more of the bed, bolster, nor looking-glass than you do.

GUILTY . (Aged 30).

Confined six months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s .

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

Reference Number: t17961026-8

578. JOHN TOMKINS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 23d of September , 50lb of potatoes, value 2s. the property of Robert Kilby Cox , Esq .

JOHN DUTTON sworn.

I am a constable: On Friday the 23d of Sept. I was going along near the five mile stone at Highgate , I heard the cracking of a hedge belonging to Mr. Cox; I saw the prisoner pushing the sack over Mr. Cox's ground into the road; I followed him across the road into a stable; he carried it into a stable belonging to William Anderson; I saw him throw the potatoes upon the ground; I don't know whose potatoes they were, he threw it out of Mr. Cox's ground, the ground was planted with potatoes, the mould was quite damp about them. I did not examine the field afterwards; when I took him, he said, he hoped I would not take him before Mr. Cox, he would beg Mr. Cox's pardon, and hoped he would not prosecute him.

Prisoner's defence. I had been with a load of coals to Hampstead brewhouse, my master told me to take a sack of chaff into the stable, I went with it, and Mr. Dutton came and told me I had stole the potatoes; I don't know how the potatoes came there, I did not take them, I told him I did not know any thing about them.

NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-9

579. JOSHUA COTTON was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 17th of October , a flock bed, value 6s. and a feather pillow; value 12d. the property of John Harlow .

JOHN HARLOW sworn.

I live at Shoreditch ; I missed a bed and pillow last Monday week; I found them a few days afterwards, at a man's house in Wheeler's-street, Spitalfields, I don't recollect his name; I knew the things, when I saw them, he lived with a woman that I let the room to, at the next door.

JACOB MYERS sworn.

The prisoner came to me, and asked me to take out a pillow from Mr. Smith's, I took a pillow and a blanket out of pawn for half-a-crown, and paid a penny interest, and gave him 19d.; last Sunday night was a week, he brought a bed to my house, and demanded 7s. for it, it being a holiday, I could not buy it, but he complained of being very much in distress, and I lent him half-a-crown, he came afterwards, and I gave him 3s. 31/2d.; Peach and Harper took them away from my house, Mr. Harlow came, and owned the pillow and the bed.

WILLIAM PEACH sworn.

I am an officer: On Wednesday the 19th of this month, going up Wheeler's-street, I was called in by Harlow, into the shop of Myers, he told me he had found his bed; I went in, and found the bed and the pillow there, (produces them;) I have had them ever since; on the Sunday following, I heard that the prisoner was apprehended in the city, I went before my Lord-Mayor, and told him what he was wanted for at Worship-street Office, and he gave him into my custody.

ELIZABETH READING sworn.

I lived with the prisoner; he took two blankets out of the place, and a quilt and bolster, a feather pillow, and a flock-bed; I asked him where he

carried the blankets, and the quilt, and the pillow, and he said, to one Mr. Smith's; I went up into the room, after I came from my work, and missed them, and he told me he took them there.

Prisoner. Q.Will you say I took that bed without your knowledge? - A. He took the bed while I was out; I did not know any thing at all about it. (They were deposed to by the prosecutor.)

Prisoner's defence. I carried the bed to the Jew, that woman desired me to do the bed, and I told her to do it herself, and I went home with her, and she asked me to take hold of one end, and I the other, and we brought it to Mr. Smith's; I did not know it was a ready furnished lodging, I thought the things were all her own.

Reading. He could not think any such thing, because he asked me to go and take the room, I was at an acquaintance's house in Hackney-road.

Prisoner. This woman lay upon the bare sacking of the bedstead along with me, and if I had done any thing unlawful, and she had not been privy to it, she would have gone and told Mr. Harlow of it. GUILTY . (Aged 49.)

Confined six months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-10

580. WILLIAM MOSS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 26th of October , twelve table knives, value 9s. twelve table forks, value 9s. two pair of metal candlesticks, value 8s. five pair of steel snuffers, value 5s. a tea caddie, value 1s. a tin cannister, value 1s. two metal snuff-boxes, value 18d. a japanned snuff-box, value 6d. a metal syringe, value 4d. the property of Robert Hewlet .

ROBERT HEWLET sworn.

I am a brazier , in High Holborn ; yesterday evening, about seven o'clock, I went into my workshop, we had, at this time, the roof off, and I told the prisoner, who was my servant , to come into the sale-shop, and clear the goods in the glass case; the apprentice and I were employed with him; I went backwards and saw a Pontipool milk-ewer there, which I saw had been taken out of the shop; I put it there again, and got at the top of the rafters, and watched, and saw the prisoner come into the workshop, and the apprentice; he hurried the apprentice away, and then the prisoner put these goods, which are in possession of the officer, into his pockets; I then saw him go through the yard to go from his work, I followed him, and he got the space of five or six houses before I overtook him, and the property was taken out of his pockets in my presence, by the officer; the officer is here with them.

BENJAMIN SPRIGGS sworn.

I am the watch-house-keeper, and night-beadle of St. Andrews, Holborn; I was sent for last night, between eight and nine, to apprehend the prisoner, and I took this property from him, (produces it;) I have had them ever since.

THOMAS DORIN sworn.

I am houseman at the watch-house of St. Andrew's; I saw these things taken out of the prisoner's pocket.

Q.(To Hewlet.) How long has this man worked with you? - A. It is under a fortnight, I fancy.

Prisoner's defence. This prosecution is founded merely upon malice, for the goods I never knew that I had, when I went away with them in my great-coat pocket; they were some how or other put into my pocket, because I would not work for him at the wages that he wished me, he has, out of revenge, framed this bill against me.

Q.(To Hewlet.) Had you any quarrel with this man? - A. No, not at all, his wages were rose last Saturday night, and he was satisfied.

GUILTY . (Aged 37.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-11

581. THOMAS MUMFORD , JOHN BUTCHER , and WILLIAM KENNY , were indicted, the two first, for feloniously stealing, on the 13th of October , 400lb. of lead, value 3l. belonging to William Watts , fixed to a certain building of his , and the other for receiving part of the same goods, knowing them to have been stolen .

CLEOPHAS COMBER sworn.

I can only prove that the lead belongs to Mr. Watts.

ABRAHAM HEARNE sworn.

I am a bricklayer and builder; I was coming by the office in Marlborough-street, on the 14th of the present month, and I heard there was lead stole; I went into the office, having had lead stole from my premises; I saw Mr. Comber there, whom I knew perfectly well; I was then desired by Mr. Comber, to go and see if the lead matched the premises where it was stole from, in Paviour's-yard ; I went with the officer, who took a piece that was found in a scale, in Kenny's shop, who keeps an old iron shop, and laid it down upon Mr. Watts's premises; when I laid the lead down, I found it to match in every particular, minutely; there are three nails at the end, and when it was laid down, the nail holes matched exactly, and where the lead turned up again it fitted exactly, and at the trunk that evacuates into a gutter it exactly fitted there.

Q. Did you find, at the office, all the lead that was taken away? - A. No.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knowlys. Q. Are you ac

quainted with Mr. Watts? - A. Yes. I have been in his company.

Q. Do you know his Christian name, or have you seen him write his name? - A. No.

Q. Mr. Watts is not here? - A. I cannot say, I have not seen him.

Comber. I know his Christian name, it is William.

Mr. Knowlys. (To Hearne.) Q. Do you know that these were Mr. Watts's premises? - A. Yes, because I have got men to work upon his premises; Mr. Comber acts as his agent.

Comber. Mr. Watts was in partnership with me five years, therefore I know his name very well.

JAMES IRELAND sworn.

I am a watchman: On Thursday the 13th of October, about a quarter or twenty minutes after seven in the evening, being upon duty, I saw two men at Kenny's door, and I suspected there was something wrong, and watched across the way to see that nobody came out, and in about five minutes Mumford came out and Kenny; Mumford had an empty sack under his arm; I secured Mumford; and while I was securing him, Kenny made his escape; I then sprung my rattle, and told my brother watchman to pursue him, and he pursued him; I conveyed Mumford to the Police office, Marlborough-street; I had been there but a very little time before Kenny was brought in; after that Butcher was brought in; then the constable and I repaired to Kenny's house; the backdoor was open which went into the shop; the first thing we saw was a large pair of scales hanging up with this piece of lead in it; the weights were round the scales, and we took it to the office.

JOHN JONES sworn.

I am a watchman: I watched with the last witness at the door of an old iron-shop; I know no more of it than the last witness.

- FAULKNER sworn.

I keep a public-house in Wardour-street: On the 13th of this month, about seven o'clock, I saw the prisoner, John Butcher, draw a cart out of the yard; and I went after him; I followed him to an old iron-shop belonging to Kenny, in Little Pulteney-street, and I saw something handed out of the cart by the prisoner; and the shop-door shut directly, and the cart drove away; two watchmen came up.

JAMES KENNEDY sworn.

I am an officer belonging to Marlborough-street: On the night of the 13th, between seven and eight o'clock, I went to Kenny's house in Little Pulteney-street, an old iron-shop, to look for lead suspected to be stolen; I found this large piece, 112lb. weight (the lead produced by Ireland) in the scales; I brought it to the office, and it was delivered to Mr. Comber and Mr. Hearne; after that I got the key of a stable belonging to Mr. Ramsey from Butcher, he was Mr. Ramsey's servant; I went into the stables, and under the manger where the horse was, I found about 300wt. of lead concealed, covered over with straw and sacks; I brought all to the office; these two pieces are a part of it, (producing them); the next morning I went to the building that had been stripped, I looked at the lead on the building, and it matched exactly with that I found in the stable.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knowlys. Q. This was Mr. Ramsey's stable? - A. Yes.

Q.Kenny was in custody when you went to his house? - A. Yes.

Q.Therefore how long it had been there you cannot tell? - A. No.

Comber. I saw the lead matched, and assisted in the matching of it; it corresponded exactly the same as Mr. Hearne has stated.

All three NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-12

582. BRIDGET DOUGHERTY was indicted for putting off, on the 24th of October , to William Flowers , forty counterfeit halfpence for a shilling .

( The case was opened by Mr. Raine.)

WILLIAM FLOWERS sworn.

Examined by Mr. Raine. I was sent by Pletherick, the constable, to the prisoner's house three days ago, I believe it was Monday; she sold me one shillingsworth of halfpence, and she gave me 20d. for a shilling; she asked me who I came from; she did not like to let me have them, because she did not know me; I told her a barrow woman sent me that dealt with her; she said, I might have four pennyworth of farthings for a good twopence, but I had not got any good money; she said I might have a pound's worth of halfpence if I pleased; I saw a great quantity of papers, which appeared like five shilling papers of halfpence, in the room where the bad remained, and I went and laid the information.

Cross-examined by Mr. Ally. Q. What are you? - A. A green-grocer in Cross-street, Carnaby-market.

Q. You were quite a stranger to this woman? - A. Yes.

Q.And yet, though you were a stranger, she carried on this traffic as you have described? - A. Yes.

Q. You were employed by a constable to go to her? - A. Yes; because they were afraid of being known; he went with me and showed me the door.

Q. You seem to have a little knowledge of this

business, you talk of five shilling papers? - A. They looked to be so.

Q. In order to enable you to judge what they were, you must have been pretty well acquainted with that sort of traffic? - A. I saw them lying upon the shelf.

Q. You must have been pretty well acquainted with that sort of traffic, to have known that they were five shilling papers? - A. I have been in many shops where they wrap up five shilling papers, and they looked like them; I only swear what I thought.

Q. Though you were never acquainted with the form of five shilling papers before, you take upon you to say, you saw a great many papers in this woman's house? - A. Yes; that looked like them.

Q. They were open to every body's sight? - A. Yes.

Q. Have you ever been a witness before? - A. Never.

Q. Upon your oath? - A. Upon my oath.

Q. You never gave an information about hair powder? - A. No.

Q. Nor about the lottery? - A. Yes; I took them up.

Q. Upon your oath, why did you say you had never been an informer? - A. I said, not about hair powder; I did in the lottery, and that was for the good of my King and Country, and so is this; bad money ought to be stopped.

Q.Did you never give any information for any thing else? - A. No.

Q. You know there was such a thing as the glove-tax, don't you? - A. I will take my oath I never did.

Q.Not upon any other tax but the lottery? - A. No.

Q. The officer pays you for your coming here, you know? - A. I don't do it for payment.

Q. Upon your oath are you not paid for doing it? - A. I don't know.

Q. Upon your oath don't you expect it? - A. I have not been promised.

Q. Upon your oath have you not been promised? - A.Only what they please to give me.

WILLIAM PLETHERICK sworn.

I went to the prisoner's house in Angel-court, and over-shot the door; we went past the house; a brother-in-law of that good lady knew me; I turned back to go into the house, and I saw her brush down the stairs; I went into the parlour, and a person that was with me went to the necessary.

Q. Did you find any bad money? - A. I found in the fire-place these bad sixpences and halfpence and farthings, that was under a saucepan upon the fire hot, and some had got upon the coals, and I raked some out of the ashes; then we took the man and her into custody, and he was discharged.

Q. Had you given Flowers instructions how to act? - A. I did; I told him to go and buy some money.

Cross-examined by Mr. Ally. Q. Who went first into this house, Flowers or you? - A. I believe I did.

Q. Upon your oath did not Flowers go in first? - A. I am not positive.

Q. You know it was natural for you to send Flowers in first? - A. I cannot say.

Q. Do you mean to say, that without any difficulty you got in? - A. I got in because the street-door was open, but the parlour-door was not.

Q. Will you swear that this money was taken off the fire? - A. Yes.

Q. Are they not such halfpence as are every day in circulation; do you mean to say these are halfpence that are newly made? - A. I cannot say.

Q. Upon your oath, don't you know they are always black and greasy before they are sold? - A. I cannot tell; I suppose the fire would take that off.

JAMES SLADE sworn.

I was with the other officers; I apprehended the prisoner, and she was searched; but I found nothing upon her. (Flowers produces the halfpence be bought of the prisoner).

Q. Are they counterfeit? - A. Yes; they are all very black indeed, as if they had been taken out of the foot.

For the Prisoner.

- REYNOLDS sworn.

I have known her three years; she is an industrious and honest woman; she has a child, and a husband at sea.

GUILTY . (Aged 28.)

Imprisoned one year in Newgate , and fined 1s .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

Reference Number: t17961026-13

583. JAMES BUSHELL was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 24th of September , two quart pewter pots, value 2s. three pint pewter pots, value 18d. and a half pint pot, value 4d. the property of Charles Broomhall .

CHARLES BROOMHALL sworn.

I am a publican in Goodman's-yard, Goodman's-fields : I lost a great number of pots; the prisoner worked in the house as a carpenter ; I found five pots in his apartment; I went into Mr. Briggs's shop, and he ran away out of one shop into another.

Q. How do you know it was his apartment that you found them in? - A.His wife unlocked the door, and there they were found; I have not got

them here; but I have got one here, (producing a pint pot), which I found upon him; I saw this taken from him in Mr. Briggs's shop, it has my name upon it, I am sure it is mine.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knowlys. Q. Was not that pot found in a common open shop? - A. He was pursued.

Q. Upon your oath was it not found in the shop? - A. It was in the shop; and he told me he was very sorry he was guilty of such a thing.

Q. Did not you tell him he had much better tell all about it, that you would be kind to him? - A. No; I should be very sorry to say that to him; he owned to every thing.

Q. It was found in Briggs's open carpenter's shop? - A. He ran away; and he hid it under the shavings.

Q. Did you see him do that? - A. I saw him run from one shop to the other as soon as ever he saw me.

Q. Where was it found? - A. In Mr. Briggs's shop, by a chest.

Q. Briggs's is an open shop, is it not? - A. Yes.

Q. It is where a number of men work? - A. I pursued the man there, and found the pot.

Mr. Knowlys. If you choose to behave in that manner, I shall not condescend to ask you another question, but leave you with the Jury and let them judge of it.

MARGARET M'CARTHY sworn.

I live with Mr. Broomhall; I saw the prisoner take a pint pot off the landing-place about six o'clock in the morning, and take it away.

Q. Was it that pint pot? - A. I cannot say that it was that.

Q. Did you go after him to his workshop? - A. No; my master did.

Q. Do you know whether the pint pot that was in the window was your master's pot? - A. To the best of my knowledge it was.

Q. Did you go to his lodgings? - A. No.

JAMES BRIGGS sworn.

The prisoner worked for me two months; he worked one of the months at Mr. Broomhall's; I was informed he had stole a pint pot; I saw the pint pot found in the shop crammed behind his bench where he worked; I never suffer any beer to come into the shop.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knowlys. Q. He has worked well with you? - A. Yes, with good looking after; he was tried here last session, I believe, for stealing tools.

Prisoner's defence. I am quite innocent of the charge; I was at Broomhall's at the time, but it never entered into my head to be guilty of so mean a thing as to steal a pint pot; it is a malicious thing of that girl against me.

GUILTY . (Aged 30.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Baron HOTHAM .

Reference Number: t17961026-14

584. MARGARET LUMSDEN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 13th of October , forty-seven pair of worsted stockings, value 3l. 12s. twenty-four pair of other worsted stockings, value 3l. 6s. thirty-six pair of other worsted stockings, value 2l. 12s. twelve other pair of stockings, value 17s. twenty-nine pair of cotton stockings, value 1l. 19s. the property of William Culverwell ; twenty-four yards of linen cloth, value 2l. 16s. three silver tea spoons, value 4s. 6d. a silver table spoon, value 10s. a gold ring, value 21s. two China images, value 2s. and a silk cloak, value 5l. the property of Mary Lovell , in the dwelling-house of William Culverwell .

WILLIAM CULVERWELL sworn.

I am a hosier and hatter , and keep a house in the Minories ; Mrs. Lovell was a lodger with me; the prisoner had lived servant with me about six weeks before; we had her character from her brother; the property was taken out of the shop, and we found them all in a dust-hole the next morning after we missed them; on Friday the 14th of this month the alarm was given by the prisoner about five in the morning, that there were thieves in the house; I got up, and found the shop door open; there is no private door.

Q.Had you any other servants? - A. No.

Q. What does your family consist of? - A. Me and this lady, and the maid; she confessed she put the property there.

Q. Was she told it would be better for her to confess? - A. Yes; but not by me, it was Mrs. Lovell.

Q. Did you find them by accident? - A. The watchman suspected it was the servant.

GEORGE WEBB sworn.

I am a constable,(produces the property); I found these things in the dust-hole, covered over with a large quantity of dust.

- CROKER sworn.

I am a watchman: The lady in the house gave an alarm with a rattle out at the two pair of stairs room window; when I came up I found the door partly open, and found several bundles of stockings and hats thrown about the passage, and some candlesticks, and saw the servant maid (the prisoner at the bar) come from the parlour door with nothing but an under-petticoat about her; and she said, watchman, I am glad you are come, here are thieves in the house; and another watchman and

I searched about the house, and Mr. Culverwell, and we saw a looking-glass lie upon the floor in the parlour; we went to the lower part of the house and examined the windows, and we found no marks of violence at all, nor upon the door; Mr. Culverwell went to pull out a drawer in the kitchen-dresser, and said, the silver spoons are gone; and the prisoner said, there was a piece of new cloth gone from the fire-side, that was hanging there to dry; then we went up stairs, and found a knife-case standing very near the door of the dining-room, upon the floor; upon being asked if she heard any noise, she said, she heard a man scrambling against the wainscot; we could not find any marks of violence any where; we went all over the house, and the top of the house, and there was no where that any body could have got in at; and the ladder had not been moved, nor nothing.

MARY LOVELL sworn.

I am a lodger in the prosecutor's house: I was alarmed about five o'clock in the morning by the maid coming to the door, and saying, there was a man in the house, she wanted me to open the door and give her a light; I told her, I was afraid of giving her a light, and would not open the door; I told her to be well satisfied first, and she came up again, and said, ma'am, there are thieves in the house, I hear them talk below, upon that I went and took the rattle, and opened the window, and alarmed the neighbourhood.

Q. You did not see any thieves running away? - A. No.

Q. Now look at these things, and tell us if they are your property? - A. They are the soons I reckon at 12s. the gold ring cost me a guinea and a half, I value that at a guinea, the cloak cost me six guineas, I value it at 5l.

Culverwell. These are my stockings, there are twelve dozen of them, they have my private mark upon them, they cost me more than 10l.

Jury. Q. Who was last up? - A. I was, and fastened the door myself, with bolts and bars.

Prisoner's defence. I don't know any thing about them, I did not take them.

GUILTY . Death . (Aged 24.)(The prisoner was recommended by Mrs. Lovell to his Majesty's mercy.)

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. Justice HEATH.

Reference Number: t17961026-15

585. ANDREW LUST . otherwise WILSON , was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 13th of September , fifty yards of cotton quilting, value 15l. and twenty-five yards of cotton dimity, value 4l. the property of George Gould , James Stubbington Penny , William West and James Gould , the same being exposed to be bleached in a calico ground, called a bleaching croft .(The indictment was opened by Mr. Raine, and the case by Mr. Knowlys.)(The witnesses were examined apart of the request of the prisoner.)

JAMES FALKNER sworn.

Examined by Mr. Raine. Q. Are you foreman to Messrs. Gould and company? - A. Yes; they are calico-printers at Isleworth ; I laid these goods down on Friday the 10th of September, in a field belonging to Mr. Gould, quiltings and dimities, they were cotton, I laid them near the bottom of the bleaching-field, belonging to Messrs. Gould, Penny, West, and Gould; I laid several lengths of goods down on the Friday, between five and six in the evening; on the Monday following, about seven o'clock in the morning, I missed two pieces of quiltings, and half a piece of dimity, they ran nearly twenty-five yards a-piece, and the half piece of dimity about twenty-five yards; the whole piece of dimity was about fifty-two yards; in consequence of missing them, I acquainted my master the ground had been robbed, and we went to search if we could find the goods hid any where near the place; upon searching before breakfast, we could find nothing; after breakfast, we went to search again, and going up a blind lane, we found them in a ditch covered with brambles, which grew up on one side and the other, so that they met from one hedge to the other; in that ditch, I found a bag, containing two pieces of quilting, and half a piece of dimity.

Q. Did the two pieces make fifty yards? - A. Yes, and the half piece-about twenty-five; I sent a man to acquaint my master, and Mr. Penny and another man came, there was a man set to watch, and I left it.

Q.What is his name? - A. I believe the first watch was Allen; the man that was there at the time the bag was found was Hollis; I took the goods out of the bag on the Tuesday.

Q. Where did you find the goods you took from the bag? - A. In the ditch; they lay there all Monday night; I took them out between ten and eleven o'clock, and went and fetched blankets and wrappers nearly of the same size, and the same weight, and put in the bag, and put it in the same place, as near as I could guess; I took the others out, because they were in a state of spoiling, they smelt very strong; I left it in the same place, and left Mark Hollis to watch, and I came away; on the Tuesday morning, between seven and eight o'clock, I heard a pistol fire, and I ran to his assistance, and I saw the prisoner with him, he was then in his custody.

Q.Where was the bag at this time? - A. I did

not see the bag, the prisoner was at some distance from the place, I believe about 200 yards, or not so much, or more, I cannot justly say.

Q. Was this any thing like a thoroughfare, where the bag was deposited? - A. No, it had been a throughfare; it was entirely over-grown with brambles, you cannot get at it without tearing yourself, I could not get to the bag without crawling under the bushes.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knapp. Q. You laid down half a piece of dimity? - A. I laid a whole piece down, half a piece was gone.

Q. What was it you lost, what quantity? - A. Three pieces, twenty-five yards each.

Q. That was on the Friday? - A. Yes.

Q. You never went to the place again till Monday? - A. No.

Q. What was the value of them? - A. I don't know.

Q. How did you lay them down? - A. On the pins, for bleaching.

Q. Allen first watched? - A. Yes.

Q. He is not here? - A. No.

Q. When the pistol was fired, the prisoner was 200 yards from the place? - A. Yes.

Q. This had been a throughfare? - A.Not in my time, it had the appearance of it.

Q. A person might get through? - A. Yes.

Q. The goods were first left under the care of Allen? - A. Yes.

Q. On the Tuesday, you took the goods out? - A. Yes.

Q. Who did you deliver them up to? - A.Mr. Gould, my master.

Q. Is he here? - A. No.

Q. Any body else, from Friday to Tuesday, might have taken them? - A. I don't know.

Court. Q. What time did you hear the pistol fire? - A. Between seven and eight in the evening.

Court. Q. Was it dark then? - A. The moon gave a light, it was cloudy.

Mr. Raine. Q. Was there any foot-path near where this lane was? - A. Yes; on the other side of the hedge.

MARK HOLLIS sworn.

Examined by Mr. Knowlys. Q. Were you servant to Messrs, Gould and Penny? - A. Yes.

Q. Were you acquainted with your masters having lost the calico? - A. Yes; on Monday morning.

Q.Did you go to the place where it was found? - A. Yes.

Q. Were you set to watch there? - A. I was; from about the hour of seven o'clock on Monday night; I watched all Monday night; on Tuesday night, I went again, about half after six in the evening.

Q.Whereabouts were you placed to watch? - A. I had an old bit of a sword, with two edges; I cut a hole in the bushes, and hid myself in the hole, about four or five yards from the things.

Q. Is this a very easy place to get at? - A. A very bad place.

Q.Tell us the whole that you observed? - A. As I was waiting there, I saw the prisoner go along the path the outside of the lane, the man was singing; there were two men with me; after the man was gone by, he went past the hedge where I was, and was going from me; I stooped down; after he passed me, I went up the lane to see if I could see any thing of them, and I saw the prisoner in the field; I told one of the men to go and get his supper, and come at twelve o'clock to relieve me; I went down into the bushes again, and saw the prisoner came back, and go down into the lane; the man looked sharp about him, to see if there was any body in the place.

Q. By the man you mean the prisoner? - A. Yes; he made a bit of a stoop at the hole, but did not stop; he went up the lane, and went to where the bag was; he took the bag and threw it out, he then went and took it on his shoulder; I then told him he was a dead man, if he went any further; I had a pistol in my hand, and the sword; the prisoner dropped the bag from his shoulder, and turned round and faced me, and asked what he had done; I told him he must go with me to my master; he said for what; he kept looking up and down the lane; I told him he must follow me; I got him to follow me about ten yards, and then he stopped again, and parlied with me, and attempted to close in with me; I told him to keep off, or I would cut him down; he said he was not afraid of me; I said, not I of him; I called Allen, I thought he might be within hearing; he said, I had got no Allen; I said, I had got him, and would take care he should not go away; he then ran from, me; I told him to stop, or I would fire upon him; I attempted to fire, and the pistol slashed in the pan; he kept running on; I told him again I would fire upon him, if he did not stop; I pulled out the other pistol, and fired upon him; he kept on; I told him again I would fire upon him; he then turned round and parlied with me; I followed him till Falkner came up, and then we secured him.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knapp. Q. Were you present with Falkner when the linen was put down on the ground of your master? - A. No.

Q. You did not know what was in the bag? - A. No; I saw the things in the bag on Monday, what was in the bag on Tuesday, I know not.

Q. This cotton was laid down on the Friday, and Falkner did not see it till the Monday? - A. No.

Q. Who took it, neither you nor Falkner know?

- A. I have nothing to do with the things on the ground

Q. The prisoner asked you what he had done? - A. Yes; I said he must go to my master.(The things were produced in Court.)

JAMES STUBBINGTON PENNY sworn.

Examined by Mr. Raine. Q. Who are the partners? - A. George Gould , James Stubbington Penny, William West , and James Gould. (Looks at the goods).

Q. Do you know those goods? - A. Yes.

Q. What is the value of them? - A. At least, 20l.

Q. Are they in a vendible state? - A. It is possible they may be sold, they are not in the state we usually sell them, they are not finished; I have taken an impression off the print, and they correspond to half an hair's breadth.

Q. Did you ever see a pattern corresponding with that? - A. No.

Q. Have they the King's mark upon them? - A. Yes.

Q. Is there any other bleaching ground near? - A. Not for ten miles.

Q. There is no other bleaching ground in the district? - A. No.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knapp. Q. These are called quilting and dimity, are they cotton? - A. They are called cotton, I am not very well acquainted with the manufacture; as far as I know, they are both cotton.

Prisoner's defence. I was at a sale, the 13th of September, in Brentford, and laid out to the amount of 22l. 8s. and gave earnest for them; and after the sale was over, having been standing all day, I walked out to see a friend at Hounslow, when I came there he was gone from there; so I went to the next public-house, and asked them if they knew James Miles, that lived there, they said they did, that he was gone to Kingston-upon-Thames; a man said he saw him in a lane, and I went down the lane, and saw this bag, I went and laid hold of the bag, and the man jumped up, and said he would blow my brains out if I stirred; I had a little money in my pocket, thirty-four guineas and a half; I had not paid for the goods; I did not know what the man meant to do to me, I ran away; I thought if he got my money, he would murder me; I ran away, and he being stronger, overpowered me and took me.

Q.(To Penny). Was the prisoner searched? - A. Yes; I did not see him searched.

- HONICRAFT sworn.

Q.Did you see the prisoner searched? - A. Yes; there were thirty-four guineas and two straps found upon him.

Prisoner. I come up to sales to London, and I carry the goods I buy to Queen-street, in the Borough; and leave them till I can pack them up; and I carry these straps for the purpose; when I go to Portsmouth, which I often do, I carry the straps always to carry goods.

For the Prisoner.

JOHN WATSON sworn.

I was at the Cheeqners, Isleworth, the 13th of September; there was a conversation in the taproom, of the calico-ground being robbed, and a watch was supposed to be set in the field; I was going to Hounslow, they desired me not to go that way, for fear I should be stopped; I went across the common field to Hounslow; just at the top of the lane, I met a man, and bid him a good evening; it is the lane going to Hounslow-heath.

Q. How far from the premises of Mess. Gould? - A. About a quarter of a mile.

Q. Do you know who the man was? - A. No; I do not.

Q.Was it the prisoner? - A. I understand it was since.

ISAAC PENNY sworn.

I live at Isleworth: I know it is a common foot path for any body, to go from Isleworth to Hounslow.

Q. Do you know the place where the bag was found? - A. By what I heard say, it was close by the foot-path.

Q. Do you know the lane where these things were found? - A. I know the lane perfectly well.

Q. Is that lane a common foot path? - A. If a person chose to go in it he might, there is only a little thick hedge.

WILLIAM BIGGS sworn.

I know the field, one path goes to the right, the other to the left.

Q. Do you know where the things were found? - A. No.

HENRY SLAUGHTER sworn.

Q. Do you know the lane where the things were found? - A. Yes; there is a foot path, people may go through if they chuse it; I have frequently gone through the lane.

Q. Do you know where the goods were found? - A. Yes.

Q.Has any body shewn you the spot where the things were found? - A. No.

SARAH WOOLDRIDGE sworn.

My husband is a farmer in the parish of Barrington, in the county of Hampshire, between Petersfield and Portsmouth; I have known the prisoner three years last May; I never knew any dishonesty of him in my life; I have served the house with butter and eggs above these three years.

Q.You give him a good character for honesty? - A. Yes.

GUILTY .

Transported for fourteen years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice HEATH.

Reference Number: t17961026-16

587. SARAH STANLEY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 24th of October , a silk cloak, value 3s. the property of Lewis West .

LEWIS WEST sworn.

On Monday last, in the afternoon, I lost a silk cloak out of my own room, I saw it a quarter of an hour before it was taken; I was at work in the room at the time; my wife was gone down stairs; the prisoner said, she was just going down stairs, and took the cloak away; she called upon us from Pancras, to let us know our children were well, she had been there about three quarters of an hour, I had seen her before, but had no acquaintance with her; directly as we missed it, I went to Mr. Fleming's, a pawnbroker, in Newgate-street, she was not there; and I found her at the pawnbroker's the next evening, coming to take the cloak out of pawn, and she was apprehended, and the pawnbroker produced the cloak.

LUCY WEST sworn.

I am the wife of the last witness, I have known the prisoner about five months; she was in my room last Monday, she came a little after four o'clock, my cloak was there then; I met her on the stairs with my cloak on, I did not know it was mine, when I came up I missed it; it was found the next night at Mr. Fleming's.

DAVID HUGHES sworn.

I am a constable; I was sent for to the pawnbroker's to take charge of the prisoner; the pawnbroker gave me the duplicate. (The pawnbroker produced the cloak, which was deposed to by the prosecutor).

Pawnbroker. I took it in of the prisoner, I am sure it is the same woman; she brought it on Monday evening a little after dark, she pledged it in the name of West; she came again next day for it, I sent then for Mrs. West.

Prisoner's defence. I was very sorry I had taken the cloak, and was very willing to make it good.

GUILTY . (Aged 30.)

Privately whipped and discharged .

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

Reference Number: t17961026-17

588. LINGARD HILL was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 22d of October , a ham, value 10s. the property of Joseph Spring .

FRANCES SPRING sworn.

I am the wife of Joseph Spring; I saw the prisoner come into my shop and take the ham away, as I sat behind the counter, he took it out of the window; I called out, stop thief, and the man and the ham were brought back.

WILLIAM KING sworn.

I was sent for to take charge of the prisoner.

Prisoner's defence. Going along Thames-street I saw some soldiers running, and I heard somebody cry out stop thief, and I ran to see what was the matter, and there were people stopped me.

For the Prisoner.

ROBERT MARSHALL sworn.

I am a serjeant in the first regiment of foot guards; I have known the prisoner these two years and better, he has behaved extremely well; I know nothing of his private character.

GUILTY . (Aged 19.)

Privately whipped and discharged .

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. Justice HEATH.

Reference Number: t17961026-18

589. DAVID SAUNDERS and WILLIAM PHILLIPS were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 19th day of October , 48lb. weight of raw sugar, value 12s. the property of persons unknown.

JAMES MANN sworn.

I am a Custom-house-officer: On the 19th of this month, I took the two prisoners coming on shore, one with forty pounds weight of sugar in a bag, and the other, eight pounds, upon Wiggins's Quay , it might be nearly half past one o'clock in the day, they were in a lighter lying a-long-side of the Quay, when the wharfingers went home to dinner, I took charge of the lighter from one to three; Phillips was making towards Bear-Quay-stairs, and I prevented his going on shore there.

Q. Was there more sugar in the lighter than this? - A. Yes, there was; when they were coming on shore, I insisted upon seeing what they had got, and they said it was scraings; I examined the bag, and found it neat sugars, except about half-a-pound of scrapings mixed with it in the bag; the small bag was nett sugar; Saunders had the large bag, and Phillips the small one; the watchman upon the lighter said, blast you, you have made a better day's work than I have.

JOHN ROOK sworn.

I saw these two men with the sugar, and I desired them to put it down, and they gave me rough language, and told me it was nothing but scrapings; I was at the other end of the lighters, they were both together as nigh as I could guess; I told them they had made a better day's work then I had made, and then this gentleman stopped them.

GEORGE SMILEY sworn.

I am an officer, I was upon duty at the time; Mr. Mann called to me, and gave me charge of

the prisoners; I saw the bags of sugar, the other officer that was with me took the sugar, and I took the men; Saunders had the large bag, and Phillips the small one.

THOMAS DOGGRELL sworn.

I had this bag of sugar (producing it) from the Custom-house-officer, he took it from Saunders.

Mann. This is the same sugar.

Saunders. It was Phillips that had the bag, not me.

Phillips. I was at work there, and the man would not let me chuck that sugar into the rest, because it was wet, he would not have all the sugar spoiled by such stuff as that; I asked him what we were to do with it; and he said, take it to hell.

Saunders, GUILTY . (Aged 27.)

Phillips, GUILTY . (Aged 27.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. Baron HOTHAM .

Reference Number: t17961026-19

590. WILLIAM ESCOTT , otherwise HEATHCOTE , was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 4th of October , three pair of braces for breeches, value 6s. 9d. the property of Henry Smith .

HENRY SMITH sworn.

I am a breeches-maker , in Basinghall-street ; I lost several little articles at various times; on the first of this month, I discharged the prisoner; after that, from information I received, I went to Mr. Thompson's, in the Cloysters, a taylor, and found three pair of braces.

JOSEPH THOMPSON sworn.

I am a taylor; the prosecutor claimed three pair of braces which I bought of the prisoner at the bar, he told me he made them himself; the officer took them from me, I think it was about three months ago; I have bought two or three times of him, so that I cannot tell exactly the time.

JOHN BRISCOE sworn.

(Produces the braces). I have had them ever since; I had two pair of them of Thompson.

Smith. There is nothing particular about them, but I can swear to the work of the holes; they are worked by a woman I employ.

Briscoe. Before Smith went to the Grand Jury, he said he did not wish to find the bill, but he thought they would circumvent him in his trade.

Court. (To Smith.) Is that true? - A. They asked me many different questions, and I did not know the nature of it; I thought he might go about so the shops.

SARAH YOUNG sworn.

I worked these holes in these two pair of braces for Mr. Smith, I cannot tell how long ago it was.

ELIZABETH YOUNG sworn.

I worked the holes in this pair of braces.

Prisoner's defence. I worked for the prosecutor as long as I could get any money for wages, and I was obliged to pawn my cloaths; I bought this webbing to work over hours, to maintain myself, I could not get any money of him; I got me a fresh master, and therefore he took me up; I made some of those button-holes myself, and he owes me now above a guinea of wages.

Q.(To Smith.) Do you owe him any wages? - A. No; he owes me one pound, and seven-pence halfpenny.

Q.(To Sarah Young.) Has Smith paid you your wages regularly? - A. Yes.

Q.(To Elizabeth young.) Does the prosecutor pay you your wages regularly? - A. Yes; every Saturday night.

Q. Does he pay his work-people regularly? - A. Yes; I never heard any complaint of any body.(The prisoner called four witnesses, who gave him a good character).

For the Prisoner.

ANN AMAMS sworn.

I saw him make the slings that were brought to the Court at Guildhall.

Court. Q. Take care what you say, girl, look at them? - A. These are not the slings that were brought forward there, these are not his making.

NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. Justice HEATH.

Reference Number: t17961026-20

591. EZRA BAKER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 7th of October , a tin japan snuff-box, value 6d. a tooth-brush, value 4d. and a sixpence , the property of William Bird .

WILLIAM BIRD sworn.

The prisoner came into my house, the sign of the George, Beach-street , on the 7th of October, about half past eight in the evening, with another soldier , and called for a pint of beer; Mrs. Bird ordered the girl to fill a pint, and he asked for some bread and cheese; she sent out for some cheese for him; while Mrs. Bird was gone out of the bar, he went in and stole the snuff-box and tooth-brush, Mrs. Bird met him coming out of the bar with them; she asked him what he did there, and took the things out of his hand; the snuff-box was lying in the window.

SARAH BIRD sworn.

The prisoner came into our house about eight o'clock, and called for a pint of beer; I ordered the girl to fill it, which she did, and I ordered her not to leave the tap-room while they were there. I went out; when I came in again, I asked the girl if they had paid for the beer; she said, no;

I bid her ask for the money, she did, and brought it me; he then asked if I had any bread and cheese; I said, I had bread, but no cheese; I sent the girl for a pennyworth of cheese; while she was gone, I went into the yard, and, when I returned, I saw the prisoner in the bar; I asked him what he wanted in the bar, he gave me no answer, he had the box and brush in his hand; I asked him what he was going to do with them; he said, only to look at them. I took them from him: I had laid a sixpence down just before; I missed the sixpence, nobody else had been in the bar. My property is of no great consequence; but he had a good deal of property upon him. I sent for a constable, and he searched him, and took him into custody.

Q. Did he use to frequent your house? - A. He said he had been in my house, I don't know that he had.( Samuel Davis , the constable, produced the snuffbox and the tooth-brush, which were deposed to by the prosecutor).

Prisoner. I have not any thing to say.

GUILTY . (Aged 24.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. Baron HOTHAM .

Reference Number: t17961026-21

592. AUGUSTINE THERESE DE QUINQUERRY , and HENRY PRATT , were indicted for that they, not being persons employed in the Mint of our Lord the King, on the 29th of September , one cutting engine for cutting round blanks, by force of a screw, out of flatted bars of gold, silver, or other metal, without any lawful authority, feloniously and traiterously had in their custody and possession .(The indictment was opened by Mr. Cullen, and the case by Mr. Fielding).

SAMUEL HAMILTON sworn.

Examined by Mr. Cullen. I am one of the officers belonging to Marlborough-street: On the 29th of September last, myself, and three officers, in consequence of an information, went to a house, No. 25, the Crescent, Michael's-place, Knightsbridge ; upon getting the street door open, I made my way into the garret, where my information lay, and getting to the garret door, I found it upon the jar, and as I went in, I observed the prisoner, Quinquerry, rising from a seat placed before a table, on which table was an instrument assixed for the purpose of siling blanks of gold; the prisoner, Pratt, stood on the left hand side of him; and in the same room, cluse to Pratt, was the mistress of the house; on the table, where the instrument for siling the blanks was, were two basons containing a quantity of blanks of gold; on another table, in the same room, an instrument was affixed, called an edger, for edging coins; on another table, in the same room, was affixed an instrument called a cutting engine; in the fire-place, there was a furnace with fresh charcoal in it, and upon the top of it a crucible, containing cuttings and droppings of gold ready to be melted; in the cupboard of the same room, a cup, containing a quantity of lesser pieces of blanks of gold; upon the table that the prisoner Quinquerry rose from was a quantity of gold dust and gold silings, scales and weights for weighing gold, and any thing heavier than gold; in the drawer of these scales there was a quantity of alloy; in the other parts of the room there was a great number of files and crucibles, new and old; and, upon the same table as the cutting engine was affixed to, a vice was assixed. I took all three of them into custody, the two men and the woman.

Q. Did any thing pass between you and the prisoners? - A. I don't remember any particular conversation.

Q.Do you know whose house this was? - A. The woman said it was her house. There was a circumstance took place between me and the prisoner, Pratt, at the time we were about to take them away; he had not got his hat in that room, and he went down stairs with one of the officers who is here to fetch his hat out of a room below, which he called his bed-room. I conveyed the things I found, and the prisoners, to Marlborough-street.

Q. You did not find any dies or instruments that would impress the likeness of the current coin of this kingdom? - A. No; I did not. (Produces the cutting engine, and the instrument mentioned in the indictment).

Q. That instrument is calculated for cutting out different sizes? - A. Yes; we found cutters of three or four different sizes.

Q. I understand there are two techinical terms called a dabb and a bolster; explain to the Jury the meaning of those words? - A. There is somebody here that will explain that better than I can.

Q.Mention the different dimensions you found it calculated for cutting out? - A. Here are two cutters of the size of the smaller pieces that I found.

Q.Between the smaller and larger, is there any intermediate one? - A. None; here is one that runs larger than any of the blanks we found.

Court. Q. Are there any calculated for a guinea or half-guinea? - A. No; there are of a leffer size, and a bigger size. (Produces all the articles that were found in the houses).

Q. Are all these instruments a complete machinery for cutting out blanks? - A. Yes.

Cross-examined by Mr. Serjeant Shepherd. Q. That

instrument, the cutting-engine, was set when you went into the room? - A. It was fixed.

Q. What cutter was there to it? - A. The same that is now for the large blanks.

Q. That is to the size of a joe? - A. I cannot say.

Q. You don't know what a Portuguese coin called a joe is? - A. I don't know.

Q.However, that is set to a large blank? - A. Yes.

Q. You saw the edger? - A. Yes.

Q. Did you see that when you went into the room? - A. Yes.

Q. Was that edger set to the large blanks? - A. Yes.

Q. That edger was not applicable to any coin of this realm as set? - A. Not to a guinea.

Q. Not only in size, but mode of marking? - A. It certainly differs very much.

Q. You don't know what a joe is? - A. I don't know that I ever saw one.

WILLIAM JACKSON sworn.

Examined by Mr. Fielding. I was with Hamilton at this house.

Q. Are you in possession of any of the instruments? - A. No; I went into the room with Hamilton, and saw the prisoners there, and the mistress of the house.

Q. Had you any conversation with either of them? - A. No; no particular conversation.

JAMES KENNEDY sworn.

Examined by Mr. Fielding. I was with Hamilton and the other officer.

Q. Did you take the custody of any of the things that were found? - A.No; I took charge of the prisoners.

Q. Did you speak to them? - A. Nothing in particular; I went down with Mr. Pratt.

NICHOLAS CONANT, Esq. sworn.

Examined by Mr. Fielding. I am in possession here of a quantity of gold found by Hamilton in that room, produced before me when the prisoners were taken into custody; they were sealed up in the presence of the prisoners by myself and Hamilton, and I produce them here as being exactly in the same state as they were so given in (produces of great quantity of blanks, which were hundred to the Jury); as far as they come under my inspection there are but two sizes; the small pieces appear to me, upon the best investigation I can make, to be something less than one-sixth part smaller than a guinea, and the large ones exactly the size of a louis; I suppose there are about four hundred of the large ones; they are considerably heavier than a guinea, and worth about 18s. 3d.

Hamilton. I also found these two papers, (producing them).

JOHN JOHNSON sworn.

Examined by Mr. Fielding. I am affay-master; I have made an assay of some pieces I had from Mr. Parker.

WILLIAM PARKER sworn.

I took two blanks, one large and one small to Mr. Johnson, I had them from Mr. Powell.

- POWELL sworn.

I received these blanks from Mr. Conant.

Mr. Conant. I gave them to Mr. Powell.

Q.(To Mr. Jackson). What was the value of those tow pieces? - A. I cannot determine the value of them; I determined the quality of the gold, only one is standard, about the value of the current coin of this kingdom, and of the current coin of Portugal guineas, and joes are the same kind of gold exactly.

Q. It appears to be a mixed metal? - A. Yes.

Mr. Gibbs. Q. Does your assay reduce the weight? - A.Rather.

Q. Do you know the value of it? - A. Yes.

Mr. Parker. The large one weighed seven penny weights two grains and the small one, five penny weights one grain; I kept the weight, and delivered Mr. Powell the two blanks.

Mr. Gibbs. Q. There is a great difference in the weight when they came from the cutter, they had a rough edge which must be filed off, and then they receive the impression? - A. Yes.

Mr. Conant. The large one was filed at seven penny weight two grains.

Mr. Gibbt. (To Johnson). Q. Do you know of the traffic of sending out reduced half joes to the West-Indies? - A. I have heard of the practice, but I believe the practice was to reduce the real one.

JOHN NICOL sworn.

I am one of the moniers of the Mint.

Mr. Fielding. Q. Look at the cutting engine, how does that work? - A. By the sorce of a screw, with a fly.

Q.Explain to us the parts of it for cutting blanks? - A. This instrument will cut the blanks of any size, they are what we call the dabb and the bolster.

Q. How many sizes are there of the bolster? - A. Here are four of them, but they appear to be but two sizes; I have in my pocket a guinea blank, and a half-guinea blank from the Mint, but they don't appear to he intended either for guineas or half guineas, one is much larger than a guinea, and the other smaller, and larger than half-a-guinea.

Court. Q. Might they not be turned into guineas? - A. Yes; by hammering up, and making use of other cutters.

Q. The engine for cutting the blanks is entire? - A. Yes.

Q. Any bolster, or any dabb may apply to that cutting engine? - A.Certainly.

Cross-examined by Mr. Gibbs. Q. There is no cutting engine here fitted to the blank of a guinea or a half-guinea? - A. No, there is not.

Q. The cutting engine is not compleat without the cutters? - A. Certainly not.

Q. And there is no cutter to compleat that cutting engine for the cutting of blanks for guineas or half guineas? - A.None produced.

Q. It is very unfortunate that such things should happen, but they happen so often as to render you perfectly acquainted with the practice of sending out reduced half-joes to the West-Indies? - A. I have never heard of it.

Q. The size of these cutters would suit double louis's, I believe? - A. I don't know, unless I tried it.

Q. All that you know is, that it will not suit the current coin of this kingdom? - A.It will not.

Both NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice HEATH.

Reference Number: t17961026-22

593. MARY AYRES was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of James Pritt , about the hour of three in the afternoon of the 15th of October , James Pritt , Thomas Stevens , and Mary Frost being therein, and feloniously stealing five children's frocks, value 5s. five cotton frocks, value 5s. two children's great coats, value 4s. five linen pin-cloths, value 2s. 6d. and a diaper table cloth, value 2s. 6d. the property of the said James Pritt .

MARY FROST sworn.

I am cook and servant to Mr. Pritt, No. 15, Wood-street, Cheapside ; the house was robbed last Saturday week; I and my master and the young man in the warehouse were in the house at the time; the prisoner came straight out of the street into the kitchen to me, I was at the fire side; I never saw her before; the kitchen is up one pair of stairs; she directly asked me if I was the cook; I answered her, yes; she asked me if I knew such a person, a widow woman; I answered her, no; I have forgot what the name was; she asked me who was in the dining-room, I told her my master; the dining-room is directly opposite the kitchen; and then she walked down stairs; I watched her half-way, and she pulled her shoes off; I caught her on the kitchen stairs with the things in her arm; I never lost sight of her; I am sure she is the same woman.

Q. Did you find any thing upon her? - A. Yes; she dropped the things directly at my feet; five children's frocks, five cotton frocks, two children's great coats, five linen pin-cloths, a pair of silk stockings, and one diaper table cloth.

Q. Where were these things taken from? - A. Out of the room over the kitchen.

Q.Was that room open or shut do you know? - A. Shut and locked; I was the last person that came out of it on the Friday, and was never in it on the Saturday.

Q. Whose room was it? - A. It was a spare room belonging to the dwelling-house.

Q. Who keeps the key of that room? - A. The key was on a ledge by the side of the door.

Q. Was any part of the house-door broke? - A. No; it appeared to have been opened by a key.

Q. When did you first look at the door? - A. About five minutes after she was gone; between three and four o'clock.

Q. Did you find the key of the door where you left it? - A. No; the door was wide open, and the key in it.

Q. Was the outer door of the house open so that any body could come up? - Yes; it was upon the latch.

Q. How long had you seen the street-door before? - A. About an hour before; it was then shut upon the latch.

Q. Did you hear her open the latch to come in? - A. No.

Q. Had any body else in the house been out or gone in after you had seen the door safe? - A. It is an open warehouse; so that I cannot swear to that.

Q. When you stopped her upon the stairs, what did she say? - A. She said, she was no thief.

HANNAH PRITT sworn.

I am the wife of James Pritt: I was not at home when this happened; I can only prove the property, I had seen them on the Wednesday.

THOMAS STEVENS sworn.

I am servant to Mr. Pritt: I was in the house at the time of the robbery; I was going from the warehouse to the counting-house, and saw this woman coming down stairs; she had something in her apron, but I did not see her drop the things; upon my standing to look at her, she turned round, and just at that instant Mary Frost came down stairs behind her; I had stood a bit looking at her, and she turned round again with her back towards me; and then she was running down stairs as fast as she could without any thing in her apron, and then I saw the things lying upon the stairs; I asked her what she wanted, and who she was, but she would not tell me; I then rung the bell, and Mr. Pritt came down stairs; she was then detained, a constable was sent for, and the things delivered to him.

- NEWMAN sworn.

I am a constable: I was sent for to take the pri

soner into custody; I picked these things up upon the stairs; I have had them ever since.

Mrs. Pritt. There is a child's pin cloth marked G.P. which I can swear to; I believe them all to be my property; I missed them out of that room.

Prisoner's defence. I have two poor fatherless children; I have nobody to trust to but God and you.

For the Prisoner.

DAVID HUGHES sworn.

I have known the prisoner all my life time; she is my own sister; I never heard any thing against her in all my life; she never let me know that she was in custody.

Q. How long is it since you saw her? - A. About three months; I understood she was married to a man of the name of Ayres.

Q. Do you know how she got her livelihood? - A. By working hard as a servant; I was here accidentally as a witness upon another trial; she has not let any body know of it. GUILTY .

Of stealing goods to the value of 10d.

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-23

594. JOHN OVERTON was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 11th of October , half a pound of tobacco, value 15d. the property of Robert Haines and George Haines .

JOHN DANIEL HAINES sworn.

I am son to Robert Haines; I am now in partnership with Robert and George. I was not at the time this happened; it was taken from our manufactory in Aldersgate-street , the prisoner was a workman in the manufactory : On Tuesday the 11th of October, between half past seven and half past eight o'clock in the evening, we had reason to suspect the prisoner; I was informed he had tobacco concealed in his breeches; I followed him to the door, and brought him back into the counting-house; I sent for a constable, and he was searched, and the constable took it out of his breeches in my presence; when I brought him back I told him he had got my father's property about him; he said, he hoped we should be merciful; the warehouseman, John Sykes, was with me at the time of bringing him back; and while he was gone for a constable he took out some of the tobacco from his breeches and threw it into the fire-place; there has been a little allowance given of a quarter of a pound each on a Saturday night, but this was on a Tuesday.

Q. I suppose you can hardly swear to it? - A. It was common tobacco, and that sort that he alone was the manufacturer of; it was the same sort that we found upon him afterwards; many were manufacturing in the same place, but not the same tobacco.

JOHN SYKES sworn.

I am servant to Messrs. Haines: I called the prisoner back when he was gone out into the street with the tobacco; he came back upon that, and I told him he had got tobacco about him, and he did not make any answer that I heard; when Mr. John Haines had taken him into the counting-house, I went for a constable, and when I returned I saw the tobacco taken from him; there was better than half a pound of it.

Q. What may be the value of it? - A.1s. 4d. I found some more in the fire-place.

ROBERT HAINES sworn.

I did not see the tobacco taken from the prisoner; I know no more than my son.

Q. You could not possibly miss it, I suppose? - A. No; I certainly could not.

JACOB NEWMAN sworn.

I am servant to Messrs. Haines: I saw the prisoner put the tobacco in his breeches; he took it from where he worked, and I gave an account of it to Mr. Haines.

Prisoner. We work in very different places; he could not possibly see me do any such thing, if I had done it.

Newman. I saw him take it out, and I saw him roll it up and put it in his breeches; I could see him plain enough, as plain as I could see any thing.

THOMAS PHIPPS sworn.

I am a constable: On Tuesday the 11th of October, I was sent for to apprehend the prisoner, and I took this tobacco from him out of his breeches, (producing it); I have kept it ever since.

Mr. Haines, Junior. This is the same kind of tobacco that the prisoner was at work upon.

Prisoner's defence. This tobacco is the service that was given me and my wife; I had saved it up to send down to my brother, a young man that was going that morning to Lincolnshire; I have no other convenience that they should not search me to take it from me; and this man that is swearing against me, is to have five guineas from my master if he can cast me.

Q.(To Haines.) Did you promise that man any money? - A. Never; but there is a paper stuck up in my warehouse, and has been stuck up these seven years, that whoever should detect another in stealing tobacco out of the warehouse should receive five guineas reward; I have made no promise to any body excepting that.

Q. How long had he lived with you? - A. Five or six months.

Q. Had you any character with him? - A. Yes; we never take any man in without a character;

but I really cannot say from whom we had him; we did not minute it down in a book.

GUILTY . (Aged 58.)

Confined six months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s .

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-24

595. SUSANNAH WALKER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 5th of October , eight yards of muslin, value 39s. the property of William Holmes , privately in his shop .

GEORGE FLAMSTONE sworn.

I am servant to Mr. Holmes, linen draper , in Whitechapel : On the 5th of October, about twelve o'clock, the prisoner came in and said, she wished to look at some muslin; I got her down a wrapper of muslin, and she purchased a small quantity of yard and-half-wide; she then enquired to look at some ell-wide, I went to get her down a wrapper of ell-wide muslin; she also purchased a small quantity of that; I reckoned what they came to, and gave her change for a guinea, and she went away; I immediately missed the muslin, and knowing nobody had been in the shop besides me and her, I concluded she had taken it, and I immediately went and called her back; she had got about six doors; I told her I had missed a piece of muslin, and I believed she must have it; she said, she had not, and if I would suffer her to go into the back-parlour, she would submit to be searched; I rung a bell for somebody to come down, and went out to fetch an officer, and left her backwards; upon my return I found they had got the muslin, it was in one Mrs. Deacon's hands, who came down stairs by the ringing of the bell; I counted the number of yards, I think there were eight yards of it, I cannot be quite certain.

Q. Where was this muslin when she first came in? - A. At the other end of the shop; and I brought it to this end of the shop, and laid it on the counter close to her.

Q. There were other quantities of muslin upon the counter? - A. There were two or three pieces; I cannot possibly say how many.

ROBERT COOMES sworn.

I am an officer, (produces the muslin); this young man fetched me from the office to Mr. Holmes's, and when I got there they delivered the prisoner to me, and the muslin.

Q.(To Flamstone.) Do you know that to be your master's muslin? - A. This is the muslin I missed from the wrapper; it has our private mark upon it in two places.

Cross-examined by Mr. Ally. Q. You are the shopman of the prosecutor? - A. Yes.

Q. What time of the day was it? - A.About twelve o'clock.

Q. Had she ever been at your shop before? - A. Yes.

Q.She lived in the neighbourhood? - A. Yes; very near.

Q. You had known her before? - A. Yes; by coming to the shop.

Q. Did you pursue her shortly after she left the shop? - A. Immediately after.

Q. You had told her in the street that you had missed a piece of muslin? - A. No; I tapped her upon the shoulder, and she came back directly to the shop, and then I told her so.

Q. She made no resistance? - A. No.

Q. You searched her, I believe, before the ladies came? - A. No; the ladies searched her; I did not search her at all.

Q. How many servants do you keep in your shop? - A.Only me and another gentleman.

Q.He is not here? - A. No; he was gone out to take orders for a suit of mourning.

Q. Who served these articles? - A. Myself; there was nobody else there but myself.

Q. Did not either of these ladies above stairs, come down? - A.No; not till the bell rung after I brought her back.

Q. You sold her a small quantity of muslin? - A. Yes.

Q. Did you make any observation upon her at the time she had this muslin? - A. No, I did not.

Q. Had you any suspicion that she had taken any? - A. I had rather a suspicion.

Q. Who is the proprietor of this house? - A. Mr. Deacon.

Court. Q. Is this shop kept by Mr. Deacon? - A.No; Mr. Holmes has it in trust.

ANN DEACON sworn.

I came down stairs upon hearing the bell ring; I went into the back-parlour; I was searching her, and did not find it; but I saw some muslin lying behind her at her heels.

Q.Should you know the muslin again? - A. I am not accustomed to serve in the shop, so that I do not know the muslin.

Q. Did you observe whether there was any muslin in the back-parlour before you and she went in? - A. I did not observe; I did not see any.

Court. Gentlemen of the Jury, there is no other witness upon the indictment, and this being a capital offence you ought to be strict in the evidence; there appears to me no evidence to leave to you in this case, for here is nobody to prove that this is the same muslin that was found by Mrs. Deacon; even supposing the prisoner to have dropped it,

yet still Mrs. Deacon cannot swear to this muslin; therefore it seems to me you must acquit her.

NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

Reference Number: t17961026-25

596. WILLIAM JAMES was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 29th of September , fifty pounds weight of lead, value 8s. the property of Henry Scrimshaw , affixed to a certain building of his .

HENRY SCRIMSHAW sworn.

I live in Southampton-row, Bloomsbury: On the 29th of September, I lost some lead from the top of a house of mine; Mr. Burton called upon me, and told me he was sure there was somebody there; I went and listened with him, and was convinced there was somebody at the top of some of the houses in Southampton-terrace ; upon which we immediately struck every ladder about the premises, in order to prevent every possibility of escape; with that we got some assistance to surround the whole of the premises; and I and Mr. Burton ascended the top of the house with a boy and a lanthorn; this was about a quarter past eight.

Q. Was it dark? - A. Quite; it was a very dark night; we went up on the inside with the only ladder there was; when we got to the top of the second or third house, we found the gutters rolled up and tied in a bag, and lying there; in consequence of which we endeavoured to find out the man; we searched from house to house, and after two hours had esapsed we found the prisoner standing in the two pair of stairs, in the house adjoining to that where the lead was cut up; we found him in a very perilous situation, over a well forty feet beneath him; he had his shoes off, and tucked inside of his jacket; it was impossible for any body to have got into the house in which he was found, he must have got in at the top through a trap-door; the bottom was perfectly inclosed; there was likewise found two knives upon him, which had every appearance of cutting the lead, for they were bent.

Q. Was this lead upon your premises? - A. Yes; and it was laid down and matched exactly to the gutter, (the lead produced); it has been in my possession ever since.

JAMES BURTON sworn.

As I was passing by some houses at the end of Southampton-row, called Southampton-terrace, that are unfinished, I heard somebody at work upon the top of the houses, cutting lead; I applied to the prosecutor, and after preventing every possible escape, we traced the premises, and found part of the guiters cut up; the lead which was found in the gutter, upon being matched to the gutter, exactly corresponded; being perfectly satisfied that the person could not escape from the premises, we went on till we found the prisoner at the bar.

Q. Did he give any account at all how he came there? - A. Before the constable of the night, when he was taken to the watch-house, he said, he had got over a house, inclosed at the bottom, and that he had got over the top of a door-way to get into that house, which was next to where the lead was cut from; he said, he had got in there to take a night's lodging, that he had no other place; there was no other possible means of getting into this house, but by getting over that door-way, or a doorway at the top of the house, which communicates with where the lead had been cut up; this is the same lead, it has my mark upon it.

CHARLES HARRINGTON sworn.

I heard an alarm at the top of Mr. Scrimshaw's house, and assisted in the search; a boy that was present, said, he heard him in this house; I gave the alarm to Mr. Burton, and he was found there, we could hear him plainly walking across the joists; we found upon him these two knives, (produces them).

Prisoner's defence. I had been trying to get into St. Bartholomew's Hospital, and St. Thomas's, and I could not; I had not a farthing to help myself; I could not pay for a bed, and I got in to sleep there; I had just come up from Portsmouth; I had a bad leg from a hurt I got on board a man of war; I know nothing at all of the lead.

GUILTY . (Aged 23.)

Confined six months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Baron HOTHAM .

Reference Number: t17961026-26

597. JOHN HARLOW was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 3d of October , two pounds and a half of candles, value 2s. seven pounds of other candles, value 5s. half a pound of buck leather, value 2s. and a pair of steel scissars, value 8d. the property of Robert Jackson and John Moser .

JOHN MOSER sworn.

I am in partnership with Robert Jackson, smith , ironmonger , and brazier , in Frith-street, Soho ; the prisoner came into our service in October 1785; he was five years hammer-man, and being infirm, we had trusted him ever since as our night-watchman ; we missed tea and sugar every night, and a great many different sorts of goods; on Saturday the 8th of October, I told him to call me up between five and six to go out of town, and then I searched him, and found twelve whole candles upon him, and eight pieces, there were two or three gone of a night; the candles in his box increased every day, it had been his method to take the things of a Sunday morning, because there were no men there, then; he burnt a lamp

for his own use, we found them under a benchi n the work-shop, where he sat; after this, we searched his lodgings, and we found fifty-five pieces of candles, tied up in different parcels; we found some buck leather, that we gave 3s. 6d. a pound for, to clean stoves with, and various little things; our stock contains about 80col. worth of goods, and it is impossible for us to miss these kind of things, and we found a pair of scissars.

Q. Did you charge the prisoner with taking these things? - A. Yes; he desired we would be merciful to him, and not prosecute him.

Q. Did you tell him, it would be better for him to confess it? - A.No.

Q. Nor that it would be worse for him if he did not? - A. No.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knowlys. Q. How many years was he servant in the house? - A. For me and my partner, eleven years.

Q.What age is he? - A. By his own account, 70.

ROGER MOSER sworn.

I am nephew to the last witness, I am shopman, and manage the business in the shop; I have known the prisoner many years, I always thought him a very honest man; on the 28th of September, I told Mr. Moser he must have somebody in the house not very honest, we had missed candles two years and a half; I went and searched the different parts of the shop, and in the place where this man works, there was an iron box underneath his bench, and there were candles such as we generally use.

Jury. Q. Was he allowed a box to put his own candles in? - A. No; he always burns oil; the next night, I found two more, the next night I found six, I looked on Sunday, and they were gone; Saturday night was our annual feast, I had not an opportunity of examining that place, and on Sunday morning I did, and they were gone.

Q. Did you find any sciffars? - A. Yes; but not upon our premises, they were marked with E X, our private shop mark; they were found in his own room; I reckoned the candles before they were taken, every night for the last week; I found some in his pocket, in two papers, that were marked by me; they were marked with a pin in the tallow, some with an M. and others with an R.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knowlys. Q.There were only seven pieces of candles that were marked, I believe? - A. Yes.

Q.And he is an old man of seventy? - A. Yes.

Court. Q. Was the buck leather marked? - A. No.

HENRY LIVERMORE sworn.

I am an apprentice to Mess. Jackson and Moser: on the Wednesday, previous to the prisoner being taken, the 5th of this month, at night, Mr. Moser asked me if I knew any thing of the things being stole, I told him, no; only I understood they had been missed; and accordingly every night between that and Sunday, they were marked some of them.

Q. Were you present when they were taken upon the prisoner? - A. Yes; there were twelve whole candles, and eight pieces, some of them marked; I think there were seven of them marked, some pieces and some whole ones; some I had marked myself; and likewise a small nail bag was found at his lodging, and a pair of sciffars and some buck leather.

Prisoner's defence. I bought 12lb of candles in January, in Holborn, and they were part of them that were found in my possession.

GUILTY . (Aged 70.)

Privately whipped and discharged .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice HEATH.

Reference Number: t17961026-27

598. JEREMIAH VANDESPUNCH , alias VANDERPUMP , was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 15th of October , a wooden cask, value 4d. and 42lbs of butter, value 40s. the property of John Hartshorn .

JOHN HARTSHORN sworn.

I am a cheesemonger , in Great Tower-street; I know nothing of the loss of the firkin of butter, it was lost out of a cart, between Tooley-street and Tower-street , on the 15th of this month, between six and seven in the evening; my servant, William Church, went to the wharf for 13 firkins of butter, 12 firkins of York butter, and I cask of Cork butter; there were 2 firkins lost; 1 of York, and the cask of Irish butter.

WILLIAM CHURCH sworn.

I am servant to Mr. Hartshorn: I drove the cart, and took up the butter at Beale's wharf, 13 firkins of butter; 12 firkins of York, and 1 firkin of Irish; I lost 2 firkins out of the cart, that is all I know; they were marked J.H. upon the side of the York, and the other marked with heart H.

EDWARD SMITH sworn.

I am an officer, belonging to Lambeth-street, Whitechapel: On Saturday, the 15th of this month, in company with Dawson, I apprehended the prisoner, in King-street, Tower-hill; he had this firkin of butter upon his head, (producing it); it was about seven in the evening; I saw him going into a shop that was a notorious shop for receiving stolen goods; the man of the shop was standing at the door, and I believe had seen me; and he would not let him come in; I then apprehended him, having no doubt it was stolen property; I asked him where he brought it from, and he said, from Newgate-street, he was going to carry it to Mr. Wilson, in Ratcliffe-highway; I asked him if he had no bill of parcel or direction, and not producing any, I had no doubt it was stolen property; I went

among the butter merchants, and found, it out by the mark.

Prosecutor. This is my sirkin, it has my own mark upon it; it had been missing some time at the wharf; the other sirkin I never found.

Prisoner's defence. I had been carrying a load for a gentleman in the market, and going towards home a gentleman stood by the corner of Magpye-alley, in Newgate-street, with this rub; and he said, porter, do you want a load, I told him, yes; says he, you have got to carry this to Ratcliff-highway; he told me he would give me eighteen pence; I asked him for a note, and he said I had no occasion for a note, for, says he, I shall walk along with you; and coming along Cheapside, I saw him close behind me, and I saw him behind me in the Minories; and when I came to cross the way on Tower-hill, this gentleman came up to me, and asked me where I was going; I told him I was going to Mr. Wilson's, in Ratcliff-highway; and I looked about for the gentleman, and he was gone: I have worked fourteen years about the market and the water-side, and nobody could ever give me a bad character.

GUILTY . (Aged 54.)

Confined two years in the House of Correction , and fined 1s .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice HEATH.

Reference Number: t17961026-28

599. RICHARD FERGUSON was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of May , a gelding, value 40s. the property of Thomas Preston .

THOMAS PRESTON sworn.

I lived in the parish of Heston, when I lost my poney.

Q. What business are you? - A. I do a little in the fellmongering ; I left him upon Smallbury green .

Q. What age was this poney? - A. I think he was turned of eleven years old to the best of my knowledge.

Q. How high was he? - A. Near 13 hands, I have had him about four years and a half, I saw him on the 24th of May, I did not see him again till last Saturday week, in the White-hart-yard, Holborn; I know it to be my poney.

Q. Did you know the prisoner before this? - A. No.

Q. How did you know it to be your's? - A. He had a cut in the near foot behind, just above the fetlock joint.

Q. What colour? - A. He was bay, and blind of both eyes.

Q. He was not worth a great deal then? - A. No; about 2l.

Cross-examined by Mr. Const. Q. When did you lose it? - A. About the 25th of May.

Q.And did not see it again till last Saturday week? - A. No.

EDWARD THORN sworn.

I sell earthen ware: I was in Smithfield and bought the poney of Richard Rossiter for 2l.; it was owned from me last Friday was a week at the White-hart, Holborn; I bought him about three months ago.

Q. Who claimed him? - A. A butcher, I don't know his name, as Mr. Preston's property.

RICHARD ROSSITER sworn.

I sold that poney to the last witness; I bought it at the Nag's-head, by Covent-Garden Market; I am not rightly sure whether that is the man or nor, there were two of them; I dare say, it is full five months ago; the prisoner is very much like the man; the ostler and he called each other by their names.

SAMUEL BASTWICKE sworn.

I know nothing more than the prisoner at the bar paid me for the horse's keep, that is all I know about it, I am ostler at the Nag's-head, in James-street, Covent-Garden.

Q. Did you see Rossiter at the Nag's-head? - A. Yes.

Q. Did he buy the poney? - A. I was not at the buying of him; my fellow-servant took it in, and he paid me for the keep; he is not here.

Q. Who carried off the poney? - A. Another man; there were three of them concerned, Rossiter and another man, I don't know which led him out of the yard.

CHRISTOPHER JONES sworn.

I apprehended the prisoner.

Q. Did any thing pass then? - A. Nothing at all.

Prisoner's defence. My Lord, and Gentlemen of the Jury; I have but very little to say, in the aukward situation that I am in, at present; as I am to answer to God. I bought this poney near five months ago, in Smithfield, of a man that said his name was William Owen , I gave one pound six shillings for him, and sold him for a guinea and a half; a witness was waiting here to-day morning that saw me buy it; where he is now I don't know.(The prisoner called two witnesses, who gave him a very good character).

NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice HEATH.

Reference Number: t17961026-29

600. FREDERICK HESS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 10th of October , a jean jacket, value 5s. a waistcoat, value 18s. a silver table spoon, value 20s. and a damask table-cloth, value 40s. the property of Thomas Williams , in his dwelling-house .

THOMAS WILLIAMS sworn.

I am a hair-dresser , No.26, Buckingham-street ; the prisoner was a servant out of place, he used to call upon me to ask me after places. On Monday, the 10th of October, about a quarter after nine in the morning, I went out, the things were then in the back parlour; I returned at noon, and missed them about four o'clock; I went round to the pawnbrokers and found them.

( William Bourn , apprentice to a pawnbroker in the Strand, produced the property which be took in pledge from the prisoner, and which were deposed to by the prosecutor).

Prisoner's defence. I know nothing at all of the things, neither did I take them out of the house.

GUILTY, Of stealing to the value of 20s .

Confined twelve months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice HEATH.

Reference Number: t17961026-30

601. JOHN DYER was indicted for forging a certain order for the payment of money, dated Lincoln's-Inn, July 23, 1796 , with the name Michael Bray thereunto subscribed, directed to Henry Hoare , Henry Hugh Hoare , Charles Hoare , and Henry Meyrick Hoare , Esqrs . by the name and description of Messrs. Hoares, for the payment of 850l. to Sir Edward Hales, Bart. or Bearer, with intent to defraud the said Messrs. Hoares .

Second Count. For uttering and publishing the same, as true, knowing it to be forged.

Third and Fourth Courts. For forging a like note, and uttering, and publishing the same, as true, with intention to defraud the said Michael Bray.

(The indictment was opened by Mr. Knapp, and the case by Mr. Const.)

- WILLOUGHBY sworn.

I am clerk to Messrs. Hoares; the firm of the house is Henry Hoare , Henry Hugh Hoar, Charles Hoare , and Henry Meyrick Hoare; I have known the prisoner many years, I remember his coming the 23d of July, about four in the afternoon, and presenting a draft, for which I paid him a 500l. a 300l. and a 50l. note; he said, the 50l. note was too large for him, as he, or Mr. Bray, were going to travel that night, and it would be difficult to change it on the road, I changed it for five tens; upon which he went away.

Q.Was that the whole of the conversation at that time? - A. It was; I never saw him again till he was in custody. At the time of his examination, I lamented that I was so unfortunate as to appear against him, as I knew him so well; he said it was unfortunate, but he was changed in his mind, or he should not have done it; he told me some particulars at the time, that passed, which I do not recollect.

Q. Mr. Bray keeps money at your house? - A. Yes.

Q. Whose account was this charged to? - A.Messrs. Hoares; they have paid it. (Produces the draft). There is my writing upon it. (It is read).

MICHAEL BRAY sworn.

Examined by Mr. Knapp. Q. I believe, in point of form, you have releated? - A. Yes.

Q. Do you know the prisoner? - A. Yes; I have known him about seven years.

Q. Look at that draft, is that your hand-writing? - A. This is not my hand-writing, nor was it given by my order or consent, it is an imitation; I have not seen him since the 23d of July.

Q. Did he go away with your knowledge? - A. No; the 23d of July was Saturday, I expected to find him at the office; I received a note that he was going to see a friend, and begged leave of absence; I afterwards heard he was in Dublin, I received a letter from him on the 9th of August.

Cross-examined by Mr. Ally. Q. This man was in your service? - A. Yes.

Q. He behaved himself extremely well? - A. Yes; he had a very good character.

Mr. Knowlys. (To Willoughby.) Q. Supposing this to be a forged draft, and you paid it, are you not liable to reimburse the money to Messrs. Hoare? - A. We do not consider ourselves in that situation? - A. We do not consider ourselves in that situation; I don't conceive myself liable to any thing except a fraud upon the house.

Prisoner. I leave my defence to my Counsel; I have some witnesses attending; I wrote a letter to Mr. Bray in Dublin, desiring him to settle affairs, and waited ten days in Dublin for his answer. I did it in a paroxysm of madness, and was willing to make any atonement.

GUILTY . Death . (Aged 33.)(The prosecutor recommended the prisoner to his Majesty's mercy).

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

Reference Number: t17961026-31

602. JOHN SMITH was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John Bourne , Ann, the wife of the said John, and Sarah Jennings , being therein, about the hour of nine in the forenoon of the 17th of October , and burglariously stealing a mahogany writing-desk, value 4l. 4s. the property of Hans Peter Engstrem .

Second Count. Charging it to be the dwelling-house of the said Hans Peter Engstrem .

SARAH JENNINGS sworn.

I am servant to John Bourne, No. 8, Union-court, Broad-street ; I was in the house on Mon

day the 17th of October, about nine o'clock in the morning, in the parlour; Mrs. Bourne was not come down stairs; the prisoner came in and opened the counting-house, the outer door was open, and I saw him go out down the steps with the desk; Mr. Engstrem had gone out about five minutes before, and shut the door; I followed the prisoner as quick as I could; I took it from him, and gave a man charge of him in the street; I am sure he is the same person.

HANS PETER ENGSTREM sworn.

This house is Mr. Bourne's; I have only a counting-house in it; I went out on Monday the 17th of October, and shut the door after me; I will not swear it was latched.

Jennings. I am sure it was latched; I was at the door a few minutes before.

JOHN COX sworn.

On Monday the 17th of October, Mr. Engstrem sent for me to take the prisoner into custody; I had this desk of Sarah Jennings . (Producing it).

Q.(To Jennings). Is that the desk? - A. Yes; it is Mr. Engstrem's.

Mr. Engstrem. This is my desk.

Prisoner's defence. I was coming down the court, and a young man told me he would give me a shilling to carry it for him to the pitching-block.

GUILTY Of stealing the goods, but not of the burglary .

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. Justice HEATH.

Reference Number: t17961026-32

603. HENRY BUTLER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 8th of October , two cotton counterpanes, value 1l. 6s. the property of Edward Roberts .

EDWARD ROBERTS sworn.

I live at No. 5, Bucklersbury : On the 8th of October, about six o'clock in the afternoon, I went to the back of the warehouse, I saw the prisoner come to the front counter; I lost two cotton counterpanes; he had one in his hand, when he saw me he put it back on the counter, and asked me the way to Lothbury; I looked round and missed one piece; I examined him about it, and he denied it; I went to the door to see if I could see any body else, but there was nobody else near, that piece has never been recovered; I sent for a constable, and he was committed.( John Forner , the constable of Cheap Ward, produced the counterpane).

Mr. Roberts. This is my counterpane.

Prisoner's defence. I sell fish ; the gentleman told me to bring him some fish, and he would pay me for it; I went, and the gentleman came out and laid hold of me, and said, he had lost a parcel, and if I did not tell him where it was, he would do me if he could.

NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr.RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-33

604. CATHERINE FITZJOHN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 2d of July , a pair of women's stays, value 6d. a flannel petticoat, value 6d. a black silk cloak, value 6d. a linen gown, value 12d. a check linen apron value 6d. a white linen apron value 4d. a woman's linen shift, value 12d. a pair of worstead stockings, value 2d. three linen caps, value 3s. a pair of silk mits, value 2s. two yards of silk ribbon, value 12d. and a cotton shawl, value 12d. the property of Mary Clander , widow .

MARY CLANDER sworn.

I am a widow, the prisoner lodged with me: On Saturday the 2d of July, I went out between eleven and twelve in the morning, and left the prisoner in the house; I saw the things in the room when I went out; I returned again in the evening, and found the house locked up, and the prisoner gone; she was taken the next day, with my stays, petticoat, and stockings upon her.

Joseph Hook . The prisoner came to where I worked, about a mile and a half from the prosecutrix's, and I heard of the robbery, and stopped her.

Robert Hollis . I was with the last witness when he took her, that is all I know. (The property was produced, and deposed to by the prosecutrix).

Prisoner's defence. My husband brought these things to me, and I have never seen him since; I have been here ever since the sessions before last, and had nothing but what the gentlemen of the jail pleased to give me and my babe, I have no friend in the world.

GUILTY . (Aged 25.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice HEATH.

Reference Number: t17961026-34

605. ELIZABETH STOKES and ANN CROOKS were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 16th of October , a metal watch, value 40s. a gold seal, value 21s. the property of John Joseph Russell .

JOHN JOSEPH RUSSELL sworn.

I am a coffin-maker and undertaker , No. 51, Fetter-lane; I was coming down Wild-street, about twenty minutes past twelve, on the Saturday night, or Sunday morning, and I was accosted by the two prisoners at the bar, I got into a house with them, and, after being in the room some time, I told them I wanted to have no concerns with them;

they asked me what I would give them, in fact, I had no change, but two half guineas; after I had been in the room some time, Stokes watched an opportunity to get me upon the bed, and then they both held me down till she got the watch out of my pocket; when I was permitted to get up, I told Stokes I had lost my watch, the other was gone, she said, for God's sake, don't make a noise here, you shall have your watch again, and I dare say, I waited there two hours, expecting her to come back, and I never left Stokes at all till I called the watchman out at the window, and delivered her up.

Q. I concluded that you were not sober at this time? - A. I was far from drunk, I had had two sixpennyworths of rum and water, and a shillingsworth of punch, with Mr. Edmunds, in Compton-street.

Q. I only judged so far from your going into such a house? - A. It was an important trick in me, undoubtedly, but so it was, the other girl never come back.

Prisoner Stokes. He was so intoxicated, that he fell down in the court, and twice in the room, with his head in the coal-hole.

Prosecutor. It is no such thing, I never fell but when I was thrown down upon the bed.

THOMAS ADAMS sworn.

I am a watchman; I was calling the hour of two last Sunday morning was a week, and this gentleman called watch; I went up three pair of stairs, and took the prisoner Stokes into custody for stealing his watch, and I apprehended the other prisoner three or four days after; I found nothing upon either of them.

Both NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Baron HOTHAM .

Reference Number: t17961026-35

606. CATHERINE SHEPPARD was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 29th of September , a silver watch, value 40s. a steel chain, value 3d. a steel seal value 3d. a watch-key, value 1d. and two guineas, the property of Thomas Mulliner , in the dwelling-house of Edward M'Cleugh .

THOMAS MULLINER sworn.

I am a porter ; on the 29th of last month, about eleven or twelve o'clock at night, I met with the prisoner in Cheapside and she took me to her lodgings; I had my watch and my money when I sent there, I was rather in liquor; I did not miss till the patrole came to wake me about two o'clock in the morning; I told him I had lost two guineas in gold, and my watch, the woman was me.

Q. Are you sure that is the woman? - A. Yes, I am sure it is her, I never saw her before.

THOMAS COCKMAN sworn.

I am a patrole: I met with the prisoner's landlady; she desired me to go down to her house, for that the prisoner had robbed a man of his watch and two guineas, that was up stairs a-bed and a-sleep; I went, and Mrs. M'Cleugh gave charge of her; she said she had swallowed the two guineas, and I asked her for the property, and she gave me the watch out of her hand; she denied knowing any thing about the money; I went up stairs and waked him; he appeared to have been very much intoxicated; I found up stairs a purse lying inside out upon the bed, (producing the watch and the purse.)

Mulliner. This is my watch.

Cockman. She was taken violent bad in the night, and when the doctor came she confessed she had swallowed it; I told her it would be better for her to confess.

DAVID BREWER sworn.

I am a constable of St. Sepulchre's: I was present when the prisoner was brought in; I found nothing upon her.

Prisoner's defence. There was another man and woman in bed in the same room; I never saw the money nor a halfpenny; he gave me the watch because he had nothing else; he was very much intoxicated with liquor.

GUILTY . (Aged 30.) Of stealing to the value of 39s.

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.

Reference Number: t17961026-36

607. JAMES SMITH was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 15th of September , a linen shirt, value 3s. the property of Joseph Dorman .

JOSEPH DORMAN sworn.

I keep a public-house in Brewer-street, Golden-square : The prisoner lodged with me; I lost a shirt; the duplicate of the shirt was found upon him.

Q. When had you seen it before it was lost? - A. It was lost out of the basket of clean linen that had just been washed.

WILLIAM PARTRIDGE sworn.

I am a constable of the night: When this man was taken into custody, he was brought to St. James's watch-house, and I searched him; I found a duplicate upon him; I went to the pawnbroker, and Dorman went with me.

RICHARD GARDE sworn.

I am servant to a pawnbroker, Mrs. Hall, in Rathbone-place.

Q. Do you remember the prisoner coming to

you? - A. Yes, repeatedly; he brought me a shirt; he pawned it for 3s. he said it was his own property, (produces it.)

Prosecutor. It is my property; it is marked J.D. the collar is gone out of the thread.

Prisoner's defence. I asked the prosecutor's wife to lend me a shirt, and she lent me that shirt.

GUILTY . (Aged 54.)

Confined two years in the House of Correction , and fined 1s .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice HEATH.

Reference Number: t17961026-37

608. WILLIAM MACMANUS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 27th of September , two pounds weight of starch , the property of Jacob Recarde and John Philip Damare .

Second Count. Laying it to be the property of William Robins ; and

Third Count. Laying it to be the property of persons unknown.(The case was opened by Mr. Knowlys.

JOSHUA DELAFORCE sworn.

Examined by Mr. Knowlys. Q. What age are you? - A. Going of fourteen.

Q. Do you know the prisoner at the bar? - A. Yes.

Q.Had you seen him before this transaction took place? - A. No; he was a porter working on the quays.

Q. You are son-in-law to William Robins ? - A. Yes.

Q. Where was this? - A. At the Custom-house quay .

Jury. Q. We wish to know if he knows the nature of an oath? - A. The nature of an oath is to tell the truth.

Court. Q. What will become of you in the next world if you do not speak the truth; have you ever been taught that? - A. No.

Court. Q. Suppose you tell lies, or that that is false; have you never been taught what will become of naughty boys in the next world? - A. No.

Mr. Knowlys. Q. Have you not been taught whether it is a good or a bad thing to tell the truth? - A. A good thing.

Q. It is a bad thing to tell a lie? - A. Yes.

Q. Were you ever sworn before? - A. No.

Q. Do you know whether there is a God or not? - A. No; I do not.

WILLIAM ROBINS sworn.

I am a porter at the Custom-house quay: I was watching twenty-seven casks of starch belonging to Messrs. Ricarde and Damare, they were marked J.R.

Q. You had occasion to be absent; who did you direct to watch them? - A. My son; I was not absent above two minutes.

Q. Had you any information from him? - A. Yes; I went afterwards and saw the prisoner and another soldier standing on the Customs.

Q. Did you say any thing to the soldier in consequence of that information given you by your son? - A. I did; I was going to lay hold of him by the collar.

Q. Did you tell him what you charged him with, at that or any other time? - A. I told him he had been robbing me of starch; he got up off the cask, and up with his first and knocked me down; the other soldier then went away.

Q.At the time you left the starch was it safe? - A. Yes; all safe; when I came back one of the heads was pulled on one side, and a good deal of starch gone out.

Q.Did you examine his hands or cloaths? - A. One of his hands appeared white.

Q. Did it appear as if it was stained with starch? - A. Yes; after that I laid hold of him by the collar, and he dragged me about for the space of a quarter of an hour, and beat me and called upon the soldiers to rescue him away; I suppose fifty soldiers came round him; I was determined to hold him fast.

Court. Q. Did they rescue him? - A. Not at that time; I got the assistance of Mr. Green and Mr. Wells, and gave charge of him to them, for stealing the starch, and lent a hand to get him into a cart; and then I left the constables to take care of him, and went back to take care of the starch.

Q. When you examined the starch, how much was there missing? - A. About 8 or 10lb.

Q. Who does the starch belong to? - A. I do not know the persons it belongs to; about ten minutes after he was put in the cart, I heard that he had been rescued; he came down with the other soldiers to the quays, with a baker's scraper, and asked for me and the constable, and said, if he could get hold of that sat headed bugger, he would kill him; and I ran away; afterwards he was secured, and I appeared against him.

Prisoner. Q. Did you get any property of me? - A. No.

Q.Was not I lying on the casks drunk? - A. No; you were sitting on the casks not drunk.

WILLIAM GREEN sworn.

I am a constable: I was called to take this man into custody, on Tuesday, the 27th of September, about two or three in the afternoon; Robins gave charge to me of him, for stealing starch; when I came to him, he was in a great bustle, then there were three or four people assisting Robins to hold him; he was so restive, I could not search him; I laid hold of him, and he took hold of my shirt, and

he torc it all to pieces, and kicked my legs; Wells came in a few minutes after, and we tied a rope round his hands; I desired him to go peaceably; he said he would not; I went and brought a cart on the quays, and we lifted him into the cart; Wells and I got into the cart, and desired the carman to drive to the Compter; the carman turned towards the Tower; when we were going almost to the farther end of Thames-street, a parcel of soldiers began throwing mud and dirt, and brick-bats, and all manner of things; I had my hat knocked off several times.

Q. Did the prisoner say any thing? - A. Yes; soldiers! soldiers! and then the soldiers took the horses from the carman, cut the rope, and took him away in triumph.

Q. Did you observe his hands? - A. No.

Q. Did you take him afterwards? - A. Yes, after he was rescued; I being all over dirt, was obliged to go home and get some other cloaths; about two hours after I heard he was parading about the quays; and with the assistance of a serjeant I took him again.

WILLIAM WELLS sworn.

I am a fellow constable with Green: I was called in to apprehend the prisoner; when I came down to the quays I found Green in a scuffle with the prisoner, and several more people assisting him to secure him; I assisted to make fast his hands, and put him in a cart.

Q. Was there any charge against him at that time? - A. Yes, for stealing search; after we got him into the cart we went into Thames-street; the prisoner called out for soldiers all the way we went; when we came near the Tower they threw brick-bats very fast, I was hit several times; one struck me on the head, which sprung out the blood; I was obliged to go to the surgeon to be dressed.

JOHN PHILIP DAMARE sworn.

Q. Have you a partner? - A. Yes; his name is Jacob Ricare.

Q. Had you any starch on the quays this day? - A. Yes.

Q. Who was employed to take care of it? - A. William Robins .

Q.What is the mark of the cask? - A.J.R.

Q. These casks were the property of you and your partner? - A. Yes.

Prisoner's defence. There was no property got with me of no sort; I was very much in liquor, I had been working with a wine-merchant, and got very much in liquor; I laid myself down on the cask, Robins came up and damned me for a bloody-back soldier, and asked me what I lay there for; I was very much enraged, and said, if he served me so, I would put him in a place he had never been in.

NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-38

609. SAMUEL HOLEMBERG was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 19th of September , a gold ring, value 4s. three split gold rings, value 8s. an ingot of gold, one ounce, fourteen pennyweights, two grains, value 5l. 13s. &c. &c. the property of John Brogden .

(The witness were examined a part at the request of the prisoner).

JOHN BROGDEN sworn.

I am a jeweller , No. 16, Staining-lane ; the prisoner worked for me as my journeyman . On the 19th of September, in consequence of having lost a considerable quantity of gold, I suspected the prisoner; I gave him an ounce of gold to make nine rings; I watched him very close, and saw him make ten instead of nine; I saw him take the tenth and slide it under the skin that catches the silings, and, I suppose, he put it in his breeches; in the evening, after the usual hour of work, he wished me a good night; I called him back into the shop, and told him I suspected he had robbed me; he said nothing, but sprung towards his place where he worked, and I prevented him, and told him he should clear himself from the imputation before he went near his place again; he was silent several minutes; I told him it was in vain to deny it, I was confident he had robbed me; he put his hand to his breeches-pocket and brought this ring out;(producing it); he put it into my hand; I desired the rest of the men in the shop to taken notice of the ring he had given me out of his pocket, and then I sealed it up in the presence of an officer, and delivered it to him; he was taken to the Compter, and I got a search-warrant to search his house; I went next morning with the officer and two or three men, to search his apartment, and we found, in a dark corner of the garret, in a tin box put within a deal box, the gold property mentioned in the indictment, and some bars of iron that belonged to me.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knowlys. Q. Do you know Messrs. Thomas and Evans? - A. Yes.

Q. Where do they live? - A. in Staining-lane.

Q. You are their foreman? - A. I carry on business in their house, but on my own account.

Q. They are goldsmiths and enamellers? - A. No; they are merchants.

Q. Dealing in these articles? - A. Yes, and others they assign me an apartment in their house

to carry on the gold business; I employ men and discharge them when I please; they buy the goods of me.

Q. Are you responsible to them for the gold and property these men work upon? - A. No; I find the materials, and they have no concern in any thing but what I sell to them.

Q. This bit of wire was to make ten rings? - A. No; nine.

Q. It often happens that you make an extra ring to make up for the loss in making rings? - A. I never knew any such circumstance.

Q. The ring was not finished? - A. No.

Q. Does not he often finish work at home? - A. No.

Q. He takes in work for himself, does not he? - A. Not that I know of; if I knew he did, I would not keep him. I will explain myself: when I say so, he does not do work at home for me; he has a large lathe at home that turns iron and steel; he has turned iron and steel, but nothing in the gold line.

BENJAMIN BALLEY sworn.

I am a jeweller, I work for Mr. Brogden. On the 19th of September, the prisoner had done his work and gone outside of the shop-door, the prosecutor called him back, and told him he had a strong suspicion he had some gold in his pocket; the prisoner made no answer, but seemed very much confused; he wanted to go towards his place, the prosecutor desired him to stand back; in about four or five minutes afterwards, the prisoner put his right-hand in his breeches-pocket and pulled a split ring out, he then put it into the prosecutor's hand; the prosecutor held it up, and desired the people in the shop to take notice that that was what the prisoner put in his hand; it was then given to a Mr. Hench, in the shop, to put a mark upon it, that he might know it again; it was then given to me, and I did the same. The prosecutor told him he had lost things of that kind before, and he had a great mind to get a search-warrant to search his house; he went next morning to the Police-office in Hatton-Garden, and got one; I went to his house, and found some split rings in his house, the constable has them.

AMBROSE HENCH sworn.

I am servant to the prosecutor; I saw the prisoner deliver up the ring that was marked by me; I went afterwards to the prisoner's house, and saw the rings delivered up.

GEORGE LONGDEN sworn.

I am an officer belonging to Hatton-Garden; I went with a search-warrant to search the prisoner's house in Baldwin's-place, Baldwin's-gardens, on the 19th of September last, and found the articles mentioned in the indictment; (produces them); I found them in a cupboard, in a garret, where the prisoner worked; they were in a little small wooden box in the cupboard, there was part of it in a tin box in the wooden box; I have had them ever since.

Mr. Gurney. Q. You found them in the prisoner's work-shop? - A. Yes, where he worked.

RICHARD PAYNE sworn.

I am a constable; I have some gold which I received from the prosecutor, I don't know what it is, it was delivered to me sealed up. (produces it).

Q.(To the Prosecutor.) Is that what they call a split ring? - A. Yes; it was taken from the prisoner; I did not mark it, but I saw the other witness mark it.

Balley. This has my mark upon it.

Prosecutor. This gold ring I know to be my property, because I made it myself about a week before, and I am confident of my own work.

Mr. Knowlys. Q. This is the ring that you took from him, and gave to the constable unfinished? - A. Yes.

Q. You don't mean to say that is a ring, or can be sold for a ring? - A. No; it could not be sold for a ring, it is a round twisted wire, which is always called a ring.

Q. A ring, I take it, is either for the purpose of wearing upon the finger, or keeping some link within it? - A.Exactly so.

Q. Do you mean to say it is a ring then? - A. It is what is always called a ring.

Q.Till it is bent you call it wire? - A. Yes.

Q. I believe none of the edges of that come in contact with each other? - A. No; they don't at present.

Jury. We look upon it as a piece of unfinished gold wire.

Q.(To Balley.) Look at that piece of wire, what do you call it - Do you call it, before it is made up, a ring? - A. Yes; it is turned up for a split ring.

Q. As it is, it is not a split ring? - A. No.

Court. Q.Now look at the gold ring; did you find that at his house? - A. That is my own making; it is a wearing finger ring. I know it as well as my own hand-writing, or better.

Q. There are other gold split rings, are they in the same state as the other? - A. No; they are in a more forward state; one of them is in a state sit for a customer, it only wants brightening; it was made in my die; (produces it); I am certain it is my making; it weighs one ounce, fourteen pennyweights, eight grains.

Q.Now there is an in got of gold, can you swear to that? - A. I verily believe it to be mine, as much as I believe any thing to be, but I cannot swear to it.

Q.Then there is an iron triangular bar, how do you know that to be your's? - A. Because I gave the prisoner the wooden model to get one of the iron bars cast from, for an engine which I have in Court, one had been delivered to me which is complete, and made into an engine; in searching his house we found these things.

Q. Was it ever in your possession? - A. No, never; he confessed that he had had two made instead of one, and made me pay for two.

Q. There is a brass cylinder piece, were you robbed of that? - A.Only in this way: that when he went to get any cases at the brass-founders, he always got two, and made me pay for two.

Mr. Knowlys. Q.Then you mean to charge him with stealing things that never were in your possession, and never belonged to you? - A. No; I don't charge him with having taken it.

Q. Do you mean to say, that that die is not the prisoner's? - A. No, it is not.

Q. Did you never borrow any tools of him? - A. No.

Q. Did he never work in your shop with his tools? - A. No.

Q. Are there not thousands of dies of this size? - A. I believe it is not possible, any more than coin dies.

Q. Do you mean to say that coin dies are of the same size? - A. I thought it impossible to make two alike.

Q. Have you any mark upon the other ring? - A. It has a mark upon it, by accident, the folder rather bolstered, and occasioned a number of little marks in it; I endeavoured to file them out, and they would not come out, from that circumstance, I was obliged to make another ring, and I said this ring by upon the board, and when I came to look for it the day after, I could not find it.

Q. These accidents in making rings frequently happen don't they? - A.Certainly.

Q. You have no private mark upon it? - A. No.

Q.This man, himself, I believe, has worked a great deal at home, has not he, upon his own account? - A. If I had known he had worked a single little at home for himself, I would not have kept him.(The prisoner left his defence to his Counsel.)

For the Prisoner.

THOMAS DANETT sworn.

I have known the prisoner nine months; I have frequently given him work at home.

PETER DELONEY sworn.

I live in Crown-street, facing Denmark-street; I have known the prisoner many years, he worked for me five or six months; I have given him work to do at home not long ago; he bears a very honest character, I have had a great respect for him always.

- ROYAU sworn.

I am a jeweller and goldsmith; I have known the prisoner many years, he has worked for me five or six months; I had sent for him to work a few days before this happened, he is a very honest and respectable man.

GUILTY . (Aged 56.) Of stealing the ring,

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-39

610. DANIEL LOVELL , GEORGE WARD , and JACOB CLARK were indicted for feloniously stealing on the 31st of August , 101,000 yards of fustian, value 800l. and 5000 yards of nankeen, value 1000l. the property of James Webb , in his dwelling-house .

Second Count. Laying it to be the property of John Lingard , and Joshua Lingard .

Third Count. Laying it to be in the dwelling-house of the said James Webb.

The case was opened by Mr. Adam.(Upon which the Court were of opinion that it was the case of creditors squabbling for the property, and that they could not be considered in the light of felons)

All three, NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-40

611. ISAAC SYKES was indicted for uttering, on the 13th of October , to Mary Almon , a piece of false and counterfeit money, made to the likeness of a good half-crown, knowing it to be false and counterfeit .

Second Count. For uttering a like piece of counterfeit money to John Jackson .(The Court were of opinion, that the prisoner ought to be acquitted, in a much as the second count could only be proved by the first, which was not proved).

NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-41

612. SAMUEL LAFEET was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 4th of October , a guinea , the property of Thomas Davidge .

(The prosecutor was called, but not appearing, his recognizance was ordered to be estreated).

NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-42

613. WILLIAM REA was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 26th of September , a

linen shirt, value 3s. the property of William Branford .

WILLIAM BRANFORD sworn.

I live at the Roebuck, at Tottenham : Last Monday was month I went up to my room at breakfast time, and my shirt was then lying upon a box; and when I went up at dinner time it was gone; I went down into the tap-room, and said I had lost my shirt; a countryman of my landlord's said, he had seen the prisoner in my room; I did not hear any thing more of it till last Wednesday night; there was a shirt gone of another lodger's and I heard he had sold it to one Gilbin, and I got a warrant and I took him up with the shirt upon his back.

THOMAS GILBIN sworn.

I am a labouring-man; I was taken up by the prosecutor yesterday morning, for stealing a shirt I had on; I bought it of William Rea three weeks ago last Sunday; he told me it was his own.

Prosecutor. This is my shirt; here is W.B. upon it.

Prisoner's defence. The shirt was given to me by Mr. Nixon; and I was in distress, and sold it to that man.

GUILTY . (Aged 28).

Confined two years in the House of Correction , and fined 1s .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-43

614. SARAH JONES was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 24th of September , three child's cotton frocks, value 4s. a child's dimity frock, value 2s. a child's cotton petticoat, value 12d. a marcella waistcoat, value 2s. a dimity waistcoat, value 2s. a pair of jean breeches, value 2s. a pair of black satin breeches, value 30s. three damask napkins, value 15s. two linen pillow-biers, value 3s. four linen sheets, value 30s. eighteen linen clouts, value 9s. thirty-six muslin neckcloths, value 4l. and eighteen lawn handkerchiefs, value 5l. the property of Henry Pitter , in his dwelling-house .

MARY PITTER sworn.

I am the wife of Henry Pitter , in Great Cumberland-street, Oxford-road , my husband keeps the house: I missed the things last Sunday month, the 24th of September; the way I missed them was, I had no clean stocks for my husband; I missed all the articles in the indictment, some out of a green box in my bed-room, and some from a drawer, and some from the bottom part of a linen press; they were all missed out of the bed-room; she gave me a lawn handkerchief out of her pocket; some of the muslin neckcloths were found in her box in my presence, torn in pieces; I found a child's frock and petticoat, three clouts, and a pair of breeches, at an old clothes-shop in Oxford-road; I found five neckclothes, and one that had been a stock, that the ends were off, at an old clothes-shop, in Davies's-street, in the place that she lodged in before she came to me; there was a box of her's there.

Q. Have you the property here? - A. Yes.

Q.Are the people here from whom you got this property? - A. No; they are not.

Q. When you found these different things, did you carry them to your own house? - A. Yes; and I have kept them never since, (produces the lawn handkerchief); this is what she gave me out of her pocket, it is marked E.W. I know it to be mine from that mark; this was taken out of the green box.

Q. You spoke of some things at an old clothes-shop, where was that? - A. In Oxford-road; I don't know their names; the prisoner went with me to get them; there was a child's frock and a petticoat, a pair of breeches, and three child's clouts; there were other things carried there, but the woman had sold them.

Q. These were produced by the prisoner's direction? - A. Yes, at the shop in Davies's-street; I don't know their names; I found five neckcloths and one stock with the ends off; the prisoner went with me; there was one of the pieces of the neckcloths found in the bed-room where she had slept at my house, and that was the way I found it was her that had got them.

Q. Did you know those pieces of neckcloths to be your's? - A. Yes.

Q.How long had she lodged with you? - A.Between three weeks and a month.

Q.There is no one of those articles worth forty shillings that you have now mentioned? - A. No, not finely.

Q.You have got all the articles here? - A. Yes; I can swear to ail of them very safely; some of the neckcloths and handkerchiefs are marked with H.W. they belonged to Sir Edward Wilmot , my husband lived with him it the time he died, and they were given him after his death.

Q.Had you said any thing to induce her to confess? - A. No, I did not; she wanted to lay them upon my servant that had left me; when she was found, her sister, Mrs. Smith, found her, she told me she would tell me all about it if I would not make any noise in the street; she said Rachael knew as much about them as she did; then afterwards she said, she did not do any such thing; she acknowledged she had sold fourteen or fifteen neck-cloths at one place.

Prisoner's defence. I was only committed for stealing one handkerchief, which I did not steal; I picked it up going up stairs; I did not see her then, and I went home to my own lodging; and when I came to the house again she asked me for

it, and I gave it her; and she said no more about it for a great while.

GUILTY . (Aged 16.)

Of stealing to the value of 10d.

Confined twelve months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-44

615. SARAH HUTCHINS and ANN GILL were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 15th of October , seven yards of printed cotton, value 16s , the property of Robert Harvey .

(The witnesses were examined apart.)

EVAN EVANS sworn.

I am servant to Mr. Robert Harvey , linen-draper , in Oxford-road : On Saturday the 15th of this month, about four o'clock, the print was taken down from the outside of the window; there were between six and seven yards of it; a person stepped into the shop and shewed me the persons as they were going away with it; I went after them, and found the prisoner, Hutchins, about twenty yards from the shop; she was stooping down when I took hold of her, and I took her back into the shop; then I went after the prisoner, Gill, who was running away as fast as she could; I overtook her, and stopped her; I lost sight of her just turning the corner of the street.

Q. Did you find any thing upon her? - A. No; then we sent for a constable, and Kennedy came and searched her, but before that time Hutchins slung the print which was in her cloak, on to the counter, but I did not see her do that myself; the print was given to the constable.

Q. What was the colour of it? - A. A dark ground with a little sprig upon it.

CATHERINE HARDING sworn.

My husband is a taylor: I saw the prisoner, Hutchins, take up the printed cotton; it was handing upon a lamp-iron in Oxford-street, it sell down, and she took it up off the pavement.

Q. How came it to fall? - A. I cannot tell; I was on the other side of the way.

Q. Was she near enough to have pulled it out when you saw her pick it up? - A. She was close enough to it to pull it off; and then I went into the shop and told the gentleman of the shop of it; I don't know any thing about the other woman, she was standing looking at a shawl at the door; she was not high the other woman.

Q. Did you see her brought back? - A. Yes.

Q. Was it the same woman that you saw pick up this printed cotton? - A. Yes; I am sure of that.

JAMES DAVIS sworn.

I am an assistant to Mr. Harvey: I happened to be in the shop when this first good lady, Hutchins, was taken, and she slung the cloak over the counter, and in the cloak the print was found; a constable came, and it was given him and taken to Marlborough-street.

Prisoner Hutchins. When the constable came to search me, I had my cloak on, and I never had the cloak off at all.

Witness. The cotton was wrapped up in the cloak, the other side of the counter; I am sure of it.

JAMES KENNEDY sworn.

I am a constable, (produces the cotton); there are eight yards in the piece; I got it from one of the shop-women, when I took the two prisoners into custody, it was from Mrs. Davis that I had it, I have kept it till now.

Hutcbins. Q. When you searched me, did you find any thing upon me? - A. No.

Hutchins. Q. Don't you know that I had this cloak on when you searched me? - A. I don't remember.

Q. Don't you remember my turning my back to shew you that there was nothing behind it? - A. I don't remember it.

Evans. This print was hanging up at our windown, I am sure it is the same, it has the ticket of our shop upon it.

Davis. This is the piece that was thrown over the counter in the cloak.

Harding. This is the same pattern as the piece that I saw the prisoner take, I have no doubt it is the same.

Hutchins's defence. I was coming down Oxford-road, and this gentleman laid hold of me; I never saw any thing about any print, or any thing else, he desired me to sit down in the shop, and I never offered to stir.(Gill was not put upon her defence.)

Hutchins, GUILTY . (Aged 52.)

Confined twelve months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s .

Gill, NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-45

616. ELIZABETH WHITE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 19th of September , a linen sheet, value 4s. the property of Miles M'Cane , in a lodging-room .

MILES M'CANE sworn.

I keep a house in High-street, St. Giles's ; the prisoner took a lodging in my house, with another person, they used to pay the rent separately, one half, and the other half, generally; the other woman was in the room some time before the prisoner, they both worked with me in the fur trade , pre

paring skins for furriers; this woman agreed to pay half the rent.

Q. Were they both liable to pay the whole? - A. No, neither of them to pay the whole.

Court. Then, Gentlemen, you must acquit this prisoner, because the indictment should charge a contract made by the party, but the witness states, that they were each liable to pay half, but they should both have been liable to the whole; it appears to me, that under these circumstances, they were separate tenants, they were not joint tenants, each liable for the whole, and that therefore, the prisoner ought to be acquitted.

NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-46

617. HENRY BROWN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 28th of September a cornelian seal set in gold, value 20s. the property of Thomas Hamlet .

THOMAS HAMLET sworn.

I am a jeweller ; the prisoner was servant with me near three years, and was, at the time of the robbery, a weekly servant ; sometime back, the prisoner was detected by a servant of mine, in selling an article, and putting the money in his pocket; in consequence of which, I went to Bow-street, and got a warrant to search his apartment, where we found a gold seal specified in the indictment, which he acknowledged he took from me.

Q. How do you know it was his apartment? - A. It was an apartment in my house that I gave him to live in, it is over the shop where the seal was taken from.

Q. In what part of the apartment did you find this seal? - A. In his bureau or drawer.

Q. Was that bureau locked? - A. I believe it was, I was by the officer at the time.

Q. Did you miss any property besides this seal? - A. No; it is impossible I can tell when I do lose property, I have several shops.

Q. How do you know this seal to be your's? - A. It is made by the same man that makes gold seals for me, it was the same pattern, and he produced it, and acknowledged it.

Q. How long ago was this? - A.It might be three weeks or a month ago, I cannot exactly say.

Q. At the time he made this acknowledgement, had you said, it would be better for him or worse, if he did not make such acknowledgement? - A. Not that I recollect.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knowlys. Q. Did not you tell him, in case he satisfied you about this, that you would not prosecute him, but permit him to go to sea? - A. Most assuredly not, nor any body else to my knowledge, his wife begged that he might go to sea, he acknowledged to have taken it, and he was very sorry for it.

Q. This man is a young man, and has a very young wife? - A. Yes; he has been married, I believe, two or three years.

JOHN PARR sworn.

I am working jeweller; about fourteen or fifteen months ago, I received some things of the prisoner to dispose of in my shop for him, and on the 28th of September, Mr. Hamlet, Mr. Miller, and the prisoner, came to my shop, he begged I would give him what things I had received of him, I took them out of the window.

Q. Was this seal part of them? - A. No.

WILLIAM LANE sworn.

I don't know any thing about this seal.

JOHN MILLER sworn.

I am an officer belonging to Bow-street, I went with Mr. Hamlet to search the prisoner's apartments, on Wednesday the 28th of September, this seal was in one of the drawers, it was about one o'clock; he took this gold seal out of one of the drawers, and said it was the property of Mr. Hamlet, and that he meant to return it the first opportunity he had, I have had it ever since.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knowlys Q. What the prisoner said was, sir, it is your's, and I meant to put it in its place again as soon as I could? - A. He said, he was sorry for it, and wished to return it the first opportunity.

Q. He did not pretend at all that he meant to convert it to his own use? - A. He said, he was very sorry, and wished to return it as soon as he could.(The prisoner left his defence to his Counsel, and called five witnesses, who gave him a good character).

GUILTY . (Aged 25.)

Confined two years in the House of Correction , and fined 1s .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17961026-47

618. RICHARD JOHNSON was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 12th of October , twenty feet of a barge rope headfast, value 5s. the property of Christopher Richardson , and Christopher Richardson , the younger .(The case was opened by Mr. Knapp.)

GEORGE BARLOW sworn.

Examined by Mr. Knapp. I am a lighterman; I know the prisoner exceeding well; he is master of a barge that comes from below Ware; his barge and my two barges were all lying together, on the 11th of October, safe, at Cox's ways, near Lime-house-bridge ; they were safe between nine and ten at night.

Q. Was the headfast of the King safe? - A. It

was; I went the next morning between six and seven, and found the King and the Four Brothers adrift; I immediately went on board the King barge to see if the headfast was safe, I found it was cut; I went home and got my breakfast, and enquired of a man what barge it was that lay along side the night before, and I found it was Richard Johnson's; I went after the barge, and met with her taking in coals on board a ship at Ratcliffe-cross; I went on board the barge, and looked down in his cabin; I asked him if he had seen any thing of the barges, and he said, he had left them safe, that he did not cut them adrift; he told me I should not search his barge till I had a warrant, and I went and informed Mr. Richardson, and left a boy on board; and when I came back, going into Johnson's barge, I saw the headfast lying under his hatches, which he pulled out himself, and said, that is not your rope, it is the rope I bought, and gave 18d. for it; he bought it of a purl-man.

Q. What might be the value of it? - A. Before it was cut, about 5s. it is not worth above 18d. now; then Mr. Richardson and Mr. Cooke came up, and he told Mr. Cooke he had bought it of a purl-man.

Q. What is a purl-man? - A. A man that sells purl and beer about; and Mr. Cooke took him into custody.

Q. Are you sure that is the headfast that belonged to the King? - A. Yes; and that is the property of Mr. Richardson.

Court. Had you made any particular examination of this rope before hand? - A. Yes; part of the rope was left upon the barge.

Q. But are not all the barge ropes much of the same sort? - A. Some are thicker, and some laid in a different form; some hawser laid, and some shrowd laid.

Q. All that you can say, is, that it is the same sort of rope? - A. Yes.

Q. Are there not thousands of barges in the river, with the same sort of rope? - A. Yes; for I have got five.

Q. Did you compare the two? - A. Yes; and they fitted.

JOHN COOKE sworn.

I am a police-officer: In consequence of a search-warrant, I went with Mr. Richardson, on board the prisoner's barge, the rope was then on deck; I told the prisoner I came on board to search for a headfast; he said, there was a headfast, and he had bought it of a purl-man; I asked him if he knew his name, he said, no; if he had, he should not have bought it; and then I took him before a Magistrate, and there he said the purlman had picked it up in the mud.

Q. Was there any mud about it? - A. No; there was water, but no mud. (The rope produced.)

Barlow. This is the rope, and this is what was left upon the barge; they correspond exactly.

CHRISTOPHER RICHARDSON, junior, sworn.

I went to Ratcliffe-cross, after I had got a warrant, with Cooke, to the prisoner's barge; this headfast was the property of my father and myself; Barlow is our labourer.(The prisoner put in a written defence, which was read, as follows:)

My Lord, and Gentlemen of the Jury, I stand here, indicted for robbing the prosecutor's barge of a rope, value 1s. 6d. It is a customary thing for the bum-boats on the Thames, to supply the river with purl; I was in my boat, the purl-man asked me if I would purchase a rope, which is the rope specified in the indictment; I told him I had no objection, provided he shewed it me; he produced the rope, and asked me half a crown for it, I told him, 1s. 6d. and a pot of purl was the worth of it, and he took it; it is true my barge laid next to the prosecutor's barges, and the next day he came on board my barge, and saw the rope, which he said was his property; I knew myself innocent, I refused him taking away the article that I had bought and honestly paid for; had I been guilty of this offence, I had time enough to make away with the rope after the prosecutor had seen it. I am now certain that the prosecutor has no idea that I stole the rope; I know myself innocent of the charge.

Q.(To the Prosecutor.) Do you know any thing of this man? - A. I never heard any thing to his advantage; I have heard a great deal to his disadvantage.

Prisoner. Here is a little boy that saw me buy the rope.

A little Boy called. Q. What is your age? - A.Thirteen.

Q. Do you know the nature of an oath? - A. No.(The prisoner called two witnesses, who gave him a good character.

NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Baron HOTHAM .

Reference Number: t17961026-48

619. WILLIAM WEBB and TATE CORBETT were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 27th of September , four yards of silk and woollen stuff, called damask furniture, value 15s. the property of James Stowell , privately, in his shop .

JAMES STOWELL sworn.

I am an upholsterer , in Lower Grosvenor-street : I don't know any thing of the loss.

THOMAS RUSHTON sworn.

I am servant to the prosecutor: I observed somebody in the shop on the 27th of September; I went into the shop, and the two lads run out with the damask in question, and dropped it in the street.

Q. Did you know the boys before? - A. No; I did not; I took them immediately, they were only out of my sight while they turned a corner; I am sure they are the same boys; they did not give any account of themselves at all.

CHARLES STRINGER sworn.

I am a calico-printer: I was going by this gentleman's house, when I saw the two boys run out with the blue damask under their arms; they were taken just after; I am sure they are the same boys.

Q.(To the Prosecutor.) Is this your property? - A. We have no mark upon it, but I believe it is.

Q. What is the value of it? - A. Rather more than 15s. but not much more.

Q.(To Rushton.) Do you know that this was the property of your master? - A. Yes; I had seen it before in the counting-house, among other goods.

Webb did not say any thing in his defence.

Corbett. I am not able to speak for myself.

Ann Cochran , Michael Cochran , Mary Conner , and Joanna Ride were called, who said, that the prisoner Corbett was of honest parents, and that they never heard any harm of him before.

Webb, GUILTY , (Aged 13.)

Of stealing, but not privately.

Corbett, GUILTY , (Aged 11.)

Of stealing, but not privately.

Privately whipped, and discharged .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice HEATH.

Reference Number: t17961026-49

620. JOHN MAHARNEY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 13th of October , six pieces of logwood, of the weight of 150lbs, value 15s. and 3lb of sugar, value 1s. the property of Richard Burton .

Second Count. Laying it to be the property of William Lediard .

Third Count. Laying it to be the property of persons unknown.

(The indictment was opened by Mr. Jackson, and the case by Mr. Knowlys.

JAMES HILL sworn.

Examined by Mr. Jackson. I am a Trinity-officer: I was stationed, on the 13th of October, near the ship Burton, Mr. Robert Burton , Master, laden with sugar and logwood; I saw a number of people upon the deck, and the prisoner amongst them; I saw them come over the ship's side into a lighter that contained logwood, and I saw the other people go into the boat that lay along side the Burton, and I saw the prisoner hand the logwood to the people in the boat, there might be four or five pieces that I am positive he took; immediately that the boat shoved off from the lighter, a man along with me boarded their boat, his name is William Smith ; Smith said to the prisoner, go into that boat, which he did, we made him get into our boat, and Smith said, the man has got sugar in his breast, and I immediately took this bag of sugar out of his shirt, in a state of concealment; and he got out of the boat into their boat again; and I gave Smith the cutlass, and he drove him back into our boat again.

Q. Was that man one of the labourers on board the Burton? - A. I cannot say; I saw him come out of the ship; Smith brought the logwood from the other boat into our's.

Q. Was it in the nature of this craft to be employed in taking logwood from the ship? - A. No;(the logwood produced); this is the same logwood, it has my mark upon it.

WILLIAM SMITH sworn. - Examined by Mr. Knowlys. I am a waterman; I was on board the ship Burton on the 13th of October; the prisoner was a lumper, I saw him come out of the ship about six o'clock in the evening, which is the time the lumpers usually leave work; there was a lighter, named the Lucretia, between the ships, she was loaded with logwood; the lighter was discharging her cargo at the time; I saw the prisoner stand in the lighter and hand some of the logwood to the other lumpers, into a boat that was lying by, and then he came into the boat, and stood in the fore-part of the boat, along with the logwood. I then boarded the boat, I was in a boat of my own, I took hold of him, and found he had sugar concealed, and I desired Hill to take him into custody; Hill searched him, and took the bag of sugar from him in my presence.

Q. What quantity of logwood was there in the boat? - A. Six pieces; these are the same; the prisoner was rather obstreperous, and got into their boat again, and one of the lumpers said, let us heave it over-board; I took the cutlass and struck him on the back with it, and made him go back in to our boat; he offered me a guinea to let him go.

JOHN SCHAZZO sworn.

Examined by Mr. Jackson. I am a Custom-house-officer; the prisoner was employed on board the Burton: the 13th of October, about six in the evening, I heard a noise along-side the ship, and I looked into a lighter by the side of the ship, and this man told me the prisoner had taken away some logwood; I saw the logwood in the boat, and I came on shore with the prisoner and the logwood.

Q. Could that little boat have any thing to do with the logwood in the lighter? - A. No.

Q. Did you see the sugar taken from him? - A. No.

Q. What was the name of the captain of the Burton? - A. Richard Burton.

JOSEPH WASS sworn.

Examined by Mr. Knowlys. I am a lighterman, journeyman to Mr. William Lediard; his lighter

was employed to unload the ship Burton on the 13th of October; the cargo that was put into his lighter was logwood.

Q. Is that the same kind of logwood as the lighter was loaded with? - A. Yes.

Q.Whereabouts is the value of it? - A. I don't know.

Q. Is the boat employed by the other lighters to carry away any of the goods from it? - A. No.

For the Prisoner.

MICHAEL SWINNEY sworn.

The prisoner was at work with me on board the ship Burton, and when the decks were cleared up, I hailed a boat to go on shore; when I hailed the boat, the waterman came along-side the wood lighter, I told the man to come down to the boat, as it was late; I went down and got into the boat, and the waterman that was in the boat called to some of the men to hand him a piece, I did not see any piece handed; a boat boarded us and laid alongside.

Court. What do you bring this man for, he cannot do you any good.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knowlys. Q. You were foreman lumper? - A. Yes.

Q. And you were admitted an evidence by Mr. Staples, and that prevented you from being prosecuted? - A. Yes.(The prisoner called another witness, who had known him fifteen or sixteen years, and never heard any harm of him).

GUILTY . (Aged 40.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

Reference Number: t17961026-50

621. PATRICK LAVERY and WILLIAM STOPFORD were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 15th of October , a pair of kerseymere breeches, value 2s. a hat, value 10s. a guinea, and a half-guinea , the goods and monies of Thomas Lewin .

THOMAS LEWIN sworn.

I belong to the Custom-house, I am a tidewaiter . On Saturday, the 15th of this month, I was drinking with the two prisoners at a public-house close to Whitehall; I had an acquaintance with me that knew them, and treated them; and this man said, if I would stand the value of about a pot of beer he would pay me again, and I did, it might be about eleven o'clock in the morning, and we kept company together till near five or six in the evening, and then I wished to go home to my apartments, and I paid for two pots of beer in Great Queen-street, and had change for a guinea, and they told me they knew of a decent place where there were two beds, and I might sleep comfortably, just by; I refused it, and after they saw me get change for this guinea, they told me I should not go, but should stop with them, and they insisted I should go with them, and I should be taken good care of; and one took me by one arm, and the other by the other.

Q. Were you drunk at this time? - A. I was not drunk at all, I might be rather the worse for liquor; they took me from thence to another house, and Stopford went to see for the lodgings; Stopford came in very soon after, and said he had got the lodgings, and then he desired me to pay for what we had had, and we would go to bed, and I paid for two pots of hot; I went with them, and a woman stood at the door with a light in her hand, and I was to sleep with one of them, and my acquaintance with the other, his name was Hancock, and then she lit Stopford and me into a little back room, and she went away; I undressed expecting Stopford to do the same, I fixed my breeches under the pillow, and Stopford says, damn you, you bugger, I have done you, have I, and ran down stairs as fast as he could, and then Lavery followed him down as fast as he could, I could see him between the two doors; then I threw up the sash to call the watch; a woman immediately, from the next room, called out, you bloody bugger, what do you do there, do you want to rob the house, how came you there; after this, the woman came in and threw my clothes into the passage, and said, if I did not get out directly she would throw my bloody melt down the stairs; finding myself in that state, I was glad to take my clothes in my hand, and go down stairs; when I got into the street, I called the watch. I lost out of my breeches-pocket, a guinea and a half in gold, eight shillings and sixpence in silver, my pocket-book, and my deputation belonging the Custom-house, and my new hat, which cost me half-a-guinea a few days before; when the watchman came, Lavery brought me the breeches, and said, here, take these, damn you, and don't say you were robbed here, or I will kick you up and down the street; the money was not in the breeches; the watchman asked me what was the matter; I told him I was robbed; Lavery came up, and I insisted upon the watchman taking charge of him, which he did, and took him to St. Giles's watch-house; and the other was taken up on the Thursday following.

Prisoner Lavery. Q. Was it not your own proposal to go for a lodging? - A. No, it was not; I begged to go home, but when he saw me get change I could not get rid of him.

THOMAS HENRY sworn.

I am a watchman, I apprehended Lavery; I was calling the hour of mine, I found the prosecutor partly naked.

Q. Did you see Lavery give him the breeches? - A.No.

Prisoner Lavery. Q.Did not I go quietly to the watch-house? - A. Yes.

Q. Was not I searched? - A. Yes; and nothing found upon him but two sixpences.

Stopford's defence. As I was going off guard, I met with this man and his comrade, and my comrade drinking together, and they asked me to drink with them, and we drank five pots, and we went to several houses, and had three or four pots a piece; he wished to have a lodging, and I got one, and when they saw it was four men, they would not let us sleep there, but said, their beds were for men and women, and they turned us out, and used us very ill, I did not take his things.

Lavery's defence. I was never in the room with the prosecutor.

For the Prisoners.

JOHN LUTTON sworn.

I am a serjeant; I have known the prisoners two or three years, I never knew any dishonesty of them before.

Both NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice HEATH.

Reference Number: t17961026-51

622. THOMAS DUNN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 24th of September , thirteen pieces of brown paper, value 1d. fourteen hundred and fifty-two halfpence, value 3l. and 6d. and two hundred and sixteen farthings, value 4s. 6d. the property of Richard Pearce .

EUSEBIUS SWEET sworn.

The prosecutor is a brewer , in King-street, Westminster , the prisoner was his servant , I am clerk to him; I have been in the habit of missing money for some time; on the 18th of September, I missed money from a place we call the iron-house, where we lock up our books for safety from fire, and there we frequently put a great quantity of copper money; we got a search warrant, and the Magistrates advised us to mark the papers; I accordingly told out 12l. worth of halfpence, in five shilling papers; I put twenty-four of these papers into the iron-house marked; on Wednesday the 20th of September, I missed seventeen out of the twenty-four; I replaced that seventeen, with seventeen more marked; on Saturday morning the 24th of September, all was safe in the iron-house; at eight o'clock in the morning, when I went to breakfast, and returned at nine, I had left the keys of the iron-house hanging up in the counting-house, where they always hung; a few minutes after that, Mr. Green saw him lurking about, and fancied he had stole some beet, and heard some keys fast; when I came to look in to the iron-house, I found some papers of which these are the checks, (producing them); we had him then in possession, and applied for a search warrant to the Police Office, then he was brought up, and confessed it.

THOMAS GREEN sworn.

I am a brewer; upon entering the tun-room, I heard a person in the adjoining store-house, moving about, and I found Dunn in a dark part of the store-house, I enquired his business, and he told me, that he was assisting the tun-men, placing the barrels; there were no barrels for him to place, as the business was already done; I looked about and found these keys, which I had heard him, upon entering the store-house, let fall; I consequently took them, and bringing them to the light, I found they were the keys of the lobby and iron-house; I took them to the counting-house to Mr. Sweet, and told him I had discovered the means by which his money went, and immediately went into the yard and called the prisoner, charged him with having taken the keys, and insisted upon his appearing before Mr. Pearce to clear up the matter, and I took him to the counting-house to Mr. Pearce, where I left him.

Cross-examined by Mr. Ally. Q. You heard the keys fall? - A. Yes.

Q. They did not make any great noise, but such as if a man was going along and these keys were lying on the ground, as if he had kicked against them? - A. They were not upon the ground; they fell into a utensil about four feet from the ground, and six inches deep.

Q. Was it after you went in that you heard it? - A. As I entered the store-house.

PATRICK M'NEAL sworn.

I was in the counting-house with the younger Mr. Pearce, when he acknowledged it.

Q. Was any thing said to induce him to confess it? - A. Mr. Pearce told him, after the constable came, he could not-do any thing in it, but it would be better for him to confess it before he came; and I saw him pull out of his breeches pocket a five shilling paper of halfpence, (produces it.)

Sweet. This is one of the papers that I had marked; the piece sits in, and the number too; I swear this is one of the papers I marked.

Q. You pay your workmen some halfpence and some silver? - A. Yes; according as their pay is; I used to pay them about seven shillings in halfpence.

Q. It is no great wonder therefore that any man should have five shilling or six shillings worth of halfpence? - A. No; but it was odd he should have those that had never been in circulation; it was marked by me for the purpose of detection.

WILLIAM ATWOOD sworn.

I belong to Queen-square, Westminster: On the 24th of September I was sent for to apprehe

this man, and in the counting-house he owned to me he had concealed twelve papers in the coalhole; I went there and found these papers of halfpence in a coal-hole under a cloth.

Q. By his direction? - A. Yes; he went with me and shewed me where they were, (produces twelve five shilling papers.)

Sweet. These are our's also; he had worked with us fourteen or fifteen months.

Mr. Ally. You had, I believe, a good character with the prisoner? - A. I don't recollect that we had any character.

Q. But he was raised, from the good opinion you had of him? - A. I never suspected him of it.(The prisoner called one witness, who gave him a good character.)

GUILTY . (Aged 20.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.

Reference Number: o17961026-1

LAST SESSIONS. - Imprisoned twelve months in Newgate , publickly whipped and discharged - 1.

George Dallaway .

Reference Number: o17961026-2

Confined twelve months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s . - 1.

Robert Darnell, alias Arnold .

Reference Number: s17961026-1

The SESSIONS being ended the COURT proceeded to GIVE JUDGMENT as follows:

Received sentence of Death - 4.

John Dyer,

Margaret Lunsden ,

Charles Harris , and

George Barlow.

Transported for fourteen years - 1.

Andrew Lust.

Transported for seven years - 14.

John Smith, Mary Ayres, Samuel Holemberg ,

David Saunders, William Philips , Ezra Baker,

William Thompson, Ann Kennedy , John Maharney ,

Thomas Dunn , Catherine Fitzjohn , Catherine Sheppard,

William Moss , and James Bushell .

Imprisoned two years in the House of Correction, and fined 1s. - 4.

Jeremiah Vandespunch ,

Henry Brown,

James Smith , and

William Rea.

Imprisoned one year in Newgate, and fined 1s. - 1.

Bridget Dougherty.

Imprisoned twelve months in the House of Correction, and fined 1s. - 3.

Frederick Hesse, Sarah Jones , and Sarah Hutchins .

Imprisoned six months in the House of Correction, and fined 1s. - 5.

John Overton , Margaret Anderson , Jeremiah Sullivan ,

William James , and Joshua Cotten .

To be publickly whipped 150 yards upon the Quays and confined six months in the House of Correction - I.

Robert Raw.

Privately whipped and discharged - 5.

Sarah Stanley , Linguard Hill, John Harlow ,

William Webb , and Tate Corbett .

Reference Number: s17961026-1

LAST SESSIONS. - Imprisoned twelve months in Newgate , publickly whipped and discharged - 1.

George Dallaway .

Reference Number: s17961026-1

Confined twelve months in the House of Correction , and fined 1s . - 1.

Robert Darnell, alias Arnold .


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