Old Bailey Proceedings, 9th January 1793.
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THE WHOLE PROCEEDINGS ON THE KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON; AND ALSO, The Gaol Delivery for the County of Middlesex; HELD AT JUSTICE HALL in the OLD BAILEY, On Wednesday the 9th of January, 1793, and the following Days;

Being the SECOND SESSION in the Mayoralty of The Right Hon. Sir JAMES SANDERSON , Knt. LORD MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LONDON.

TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND BY MANOAH SIBLY, PROFESSOR OF SHORT-HAND, No. 35, Goswell-Street, And Published by Authority.



Printed and published by HENRY FENWICK , No. 63, Snow Hill.



KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON, &c.

BEFORE the Right Honourable SIR JAMES SANDERSON , KNT. LORD MAYOR of the CITY of LONDON; the Right Honourable Sir JAMES EYRE , LORD CHIEF BARON of his Majesty's Court of Exchequer; the Right Honourable SIR FRANCIS BULLER , one of the Justices of his Majesty's Court of King's Bench; the Honourable SIR JOHN WILSON , one of the Justices of his Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; Sir JOHN WILLIAM ROSE, Serjeant at Law, Recorder of the said City: JOHN SILVESTER , Esq. Common Serjeant at Law of the said City; and others, His Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer of the CITY of LONDON, and Justices of Gaol Delivery of NEWGATE, holden for the said City and County of MIDDLESEX.

First Middlesex Jury.

William Bailey

James Scarlet

James White

William Smith

Samuel Royle

Hugh Russel

Joseph Wigg

John Scott

John Moss

Benjamin Griffiths

Shirley Foster

Samuel Wilson

Second Middlesex Jury.

Edward Bradley

Thomas Griffiths

Peter Taunton

John Williams

George Durham

John Norbon

Philip Rawlins

Alexander Robertson

Thomas Towz

Jonathan Tilney

Peter Theobalds

Edward Wright

London Jury.

James Slatford

William Dunkley

John Coleman

Samuel Briscoe

Henry Feild

John yner

Benjamin Johnson

John Hillier

Joseph Betterton

Thomas Fellows

William Borrett

Charles Skinner

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123 SOPHIA LANGFORD and SARAH TOWNSEND were indicted for feloniously making an assault, on the King's highway, on Mary Price , spinster , on the 2d of January , and putting her in fear and feloniously taking from her person and against her will, a wooden box containing some powder called medicine powder, value 1 s. the goods of John Price, and one shilling in money , the money of the said Mary Price .


I am with my brother, he is a jeweller, he lives at No. 71, Fetter-lane; I was robbed on Saturday night, about ten o'clock, near Somerset house in the Strand , there two women met me and stopped me and asked me for some gin; I never saw them before in my life; I told them I would not give them any, I had not got any money; I was coming from Westminster; I keep my brother's house and work at my needle; they then asked me for a pocket handkerchief, and then Townsend put her right hand down my bosom, and her left hand into my left hand pocket, and Langford put her hand into my right hand pocket and took out a small box containing some medicine powder in it and a shilling; I endeavoured to prevent it, I said, pray don't pick my pocket; they said, they would, and Sophia Langford said, she would take her bloody knife out of her pocket and run it through my heart if I spoke, and would twist it round her arm; I made my escape on to the other side of the way, they followed me, Langford kept the box, and she came and struck me again, and put her hand into my pocket the second time, and she struck me over the head; they took nothing more out of my pocket, but rattled the box over my head; I applied to a waterman that was there; I don't know his name; but I did not take them up till Thursday, they were then taken up by the two patroles, I was with them, I found them up almost by Temple-bar; I am sure they are the same women perfectly; there was a light near where I was robbed; I never recovered the box with the powder, it might be the value of another shilling; I was alone at the time, but the next witness saw the transaction, he joined me.

Prisoner Langford. On Wednesday evening, I do not recollect being out at any such an hour. - I am sure that is the woman, she took the box away from me and struck me.

Prisoner Townsend. I never recollect seeing the woman before Thursday night. - That is the woman I am perfectly sure.

Court. When you found them on Thursday did you find them together? - I did, both walking together.


I am a hair dresser by business, but I follow the brokery at present with my uncle; I had been on a message to old Round-court in the Strand, returning from thence I saw the prisoners at the bar insult the prosecutor; I am certain they are the same, they put their hands into her bosom and into her pockets, the one I think that did it was she in the dark own, Langford, the other, was standing by; Langford, she took something

from her, but what I cannot tell, she put her hand down her bosom and in her pockets, the girl was making a terrible piece of work at the time, and turning herself round very quick, Langford she had something in her hand which she shaked over the last witness's head, they called her some infamous names, Townsend called her a bloody sow, and they said, if ever she came that way again they would cut her head open or off, I cannot tell which, this was after they had taken it, and desired her to go about her business, and Langford beat her about the head; on the girl's running away, I went up to her and asked her what was the matter; she told me, she had lost a small box containing some medicines, the women then had left her; I did not see the other woman do any thing at the time the box was taken, she might have done something, but I did not see it; I desired her to stop and I would go to the prisoners and ask them for the box; I followed them to Southampton-street, Covent-garden, I asked them to return the box, and that Langford called me that bloody slanger, or said, I was the bloody slanger that belonged to the bloody whore, and if I did not make the best of my way she would cut my bloody head open; with that I made the best of my way from them to look for a watchman, but I could not find a watchman or patrole for some time, when I got a watchman I went back again and they were gone, and I returned home; I am positive they are the same persons.

Prisoner Langford. I never saw the woman till she brought the person on Thursday, when I was detained till the next day.

Clarke. The prisoner Townsend seemed to be very much in liquor at the time.


I am a clerk to an attorney. On Wednesday evening the girl called on me, and told me she had been robbed; I asked her, if she knew the people? She said, she should; I recommended her to go the following night and speak to the constables and patroles, and take them up; I went with her, she saw the prisoners coming rather behind Temple-bar, towards Arundell-street in the Strand, she knew the prisoners and said, there are the two women that robbed me; when they came up the patrole took them to the watch-house, and the girl there charged them with having robbed her and having struck her, once on the Somerset house side of the Strand, and afterwards following her on the other side and striking her again; the prisoners both declared they had never seen the prosecutrix in their lives.


I am a patrole belonging to St. Clement's; I knew nothing of this till Thursday night between seven and eight o'clock, I took Sophia Langford , and the other patrole with me took the other, and we took them to St. Clement's-lane watch-house, and then told them what it was for, the prosecutrix came there and laid the charge against them.


I am a patrole; I assisted the other in taking them up.


I am beadle and watch-house keeper to the parish of St. Clement's; these girls were brought to the watch-house on Thursday about half after nine or not quite so much, the young woman told me that them two women had robbed her the night before, she said, she was robbed of a little box of medicines and a shilling in silver, and that she had been ill treated, they declared they never saw

her in their lives before; I searched the prisoners but found nothing relating to this.

Court to Prosecutrix. At the time these women made this attack on you, did they say any thing more than you described; did they assign any reason either of them for taking the money from you? - They did not.

Q. Had you been walking up and down there? - I had not.

Q. Did you understand at all, the reasons for what they wanted the money of you? - For some gin, that was all that passed.

Court to Clarke. I understand that one of these women said, that if she came there again they would cut her bloody head open or off; what did you understand by that? - I did not hear any thing pass more than what I have mentioned.

Prisoner Langford. I never saw the woman till Thursday, or saw the box or the shilling that she has sworn to; I should wish her to look very close to see if I am the person that robbed her of the shilling.

Prisoner Townsend. At the same time the gentlewoman charged me with the same robbery; I never saw her before the Thursday night we were both walking down to my sister's in the city.

Court to Mary Price. These medicines are said to be the property of Mr. John Price , who is he? - That is my brother, the box and medicines was my brother's, the shilling was my own.

Sophia Langford , GUILTY . Death .

Sarah Townsend , GUILTY . Death .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

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124. CHARLES CRAWLEY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 31st of December , four silk handkerchiefs, value 15 s. the goods of Harry Baker , privately in his shop .


I am shopman to Mr. Baker, No. 12, Pall Mall , a linen draper ; there was another lad and him came into our shop, on the 31st of December last, about five o'clock, they asked for some worsted stockings, I shewed them some at 18 d. a pair, that the other boy thought too much and the prisoner took the handkerchiefs out of the window, they came in together, he stood close by the window; I did not see him take them; but before he came in there were handkerchiefs there; I am sure they were there at the time they came in; the handkerchiefs were close to the glass so as to be seen on the outside; as soon as ever they were gone I missed the handkerchiefs. The other boy said, he had no more than a shilling, and then they both ran away; I looked at the window directly and I found the handkerchiefs gone; I immediately pursued them; I saw which way they went, they turned to the left and went up Market-lane; I ran after them into the market, and I saw Crawley throw the handkerchiefs from under his coat under a dark window, when I was not three yards from him.

Q. Could you see what he threw down? - No, I went and picked up what he threw down and laid hold of him; they were my handkerchiefs, and the person was the prisoner Crawley: I am quite sure that the boy I laid hold of in the street was the same boy who was in the shop by the window.

Q. If I understand you right you did not see him take the handkerchiefs, but you knew they were there when he came in, and you missed them immediately as he went out? - It was so.

Q. Was there any body else came in? - There was a woman came in before the boys went out, she stood at the same counter further on in the shop, she

bought a pair of stockings but not of me.

(The handkerchiefs produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. I am eleven years old; he took me out of St. James's-market and said, I stole the handkerchiefs; they stripped me naked and then they took and put marks on them; there were other boys running along besides me; I have a father and a mother, my mother carries loads in the market; I have no friends here now; I have been in prison a week or better.


This is my son; I don't know what to say about it, he left his master twice, he was with the philanthropic society; he does not live with me, and two boys in the street enticed him away; he is eleven years old and six months.

GUILTY . Death .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

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125. JAMES FEILD was indicted for feloniously and burglariously breaking and entering the house of Robert Rutland , between the hours of twelve and three in the night of the 17th of December , and burglariously and feloniously stealing therein, twenty-four silver watches, value 20 l. a gold watch, value 5 l. a pinchbeck watch gilt with gold, value 1 l. three other watches with inside cases made of pinchbeck and the outside of shagreen, value 3 l. four cornelian seals set in gold, value 10 s. thirty cornelian seals, value 15 s. three silver seals, value 10 s. three gilt shirt buckles, value 3 s. six stone shirt buckles set in silver, value 6 s. twelve gold rings, value 5 s. and a linen towel, value 1 d. the goods of Robert Rutland .


I live at No. 33, Monmouth-street , the corner of Stacy-street; I keep a sale shop ; I had my house broke open between two and three o'clock in the morning of the 7th day of last December; I got up and went outside of the door, and I found the panel of the shutters wrenched out and this tool left behind, that I suppose they wrenched the panel out with; my lad shut up the shop on Saturday night, and I looked at it at twelve o'clock on Sunday night and saw that every thing was fast then, they were double barred and cross pins goes underneath; it appeared to me as if they had taken a gimblet and worked all up from the bottom to the top of the panel. (A crow produced.) I found I had lost between thirty and forty watches, and a paneful of seals, upwards of thirty; I lost rings and jewellery and many kinds of things that I can hardly recollect; here is a gentleman here has got two or three articles, a watch and a seal or two, I have seen them and swore to them; the watches have the maker's name and No. on them; I have an account of them; I saw them the next day or the day after; the prisoner was taken up on suspicion; I saw him at the office on Tuesday at Bow-street; I know nothing of him.


I produce the property; I got it from No. 9, Parker's-lane, Drury-lane, the prisoner was there; I went with Ruthin and two other patroles on this information, he was just coming out of the room with this cloth in his hand; I immediate seized him with Ruthin, and took the cloth from him, and in the cloth was four watches, three seals and a breast buckle, two seals however of them was in the cloth, and I am not sure whether the other seal and the breast buckle was in his cloth or pocket; (deposed to) there was nothing found in the room.

Prosecutor. I sent an account of the things lost to the office; and the watches makers names and numbers corresponded with the account.

Mr. Agar to Prosecutor. You have already stated that you knew nothing of the prisoner? - I did not.

Q. You lost thirty watches and thirty seals? - I did, and many more articles beside.

Q. Here are only four watches, three seals and a breast pin? - No more.

Mr. Agar to Croker. You have stated that on searching his lodging you found nothing more of this property that has been stole? - No, and I believe it is not his lodgings, he was coming out of the room; it is a house let out in tenements.

Q. He was bringing them out openly in his hand? - He had the cloth in his hand.

Q. You searched the place and found nothing else I believe? - Nothing else.

Prisoner. On Sunday night I sleeped with one Samuel Cooley in St. Giles's; I got up at a quarter before five in the morning, to go to Billingsgate, going down Wild-street there were two men running, and some patroles after them, they put down an handkerchief with these things, and I took them up and went back and shewed them to Samuel Cooley , and he said, I had better keep them till we see who they belong to; I kept them till Tuesday and went up into this person's room, his name is Barker, there was nobody there but the gentlewoman, her name is Barker, I had the cloth from her that I tied them up with, and when I was taken I was going down to the office to see if they were advertised.

GUILTY . Death .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

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126. JOHN ROWE and JOHN MARTIN were indicted for burglariously and feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling house of Jabez Burden , about the hour of six in the night of the 22d of December , and burglariously and feloniously stealing therein, a woollen blanket, value 3 s. a looking glass, value 10 s. a mahogany tea tray, value 5 s. a mahogany table, value 10 s. a mahogany tea chest, value 2 s. a japan wooden watch case, value 6 d. the goods of the said Jabez Burden .


I live at No. 2, Suffolk-street, Pentonville, St. James's, Clerkenwell . On Saturday the 22d of December last, I came home from pay table between five and six; I went in the morning to daily labour, I left my wife, my son and an apprentice, and a little girl his sister, and another woman, and her son also in the house; I went into my kitchen to get some refreshment, when I came home, I was let in by my apprentice, I was going to my master's house where he paid his men; but before I went out of the doors I went to my own bed room, but I had not been there three minutes before I heard an alarm below that very much frightened me; I went down stairs and my wife informed me what had happened; I went into the parlour and missed a pier glass with part of the frame mahogany, a tea chest mahogany, a mahogany tea tray, a mahogany square table with a drawer in it, with several articles I cannot recollect at present, and a stand or case for a watch, a blanket that hanged on the rail of the stair case was also gone, which when I went into the kitchen I put my hand on it and felt it; I immediately went and pursued wherever I could think of; I went across the New-road into a field, which leads either to Sadler's Wells or the New-river head; I waded through wet and dirt till I came almost to the New-river head, there I

saw, in a path way that leads from Cold Bath-fields and leads up to White-conduit house, some people standing there in the path, I immediately made the best of the way I could towards them, there were six or seven people, I believe the first man that I saw and spoke to was a person that had the watch case in his hand; I went up to him, sir, says I, what do you do with this property it is my property; is it your property, sir, says he; yes, it is, says I; I immediately cast my eyes on the ground and there was a tea chest I missed out of my parlour; he gave me the watch case into my hand; I immediately claimed the tea chest, I said, there is my tea chest also; O! then, says he, you are the gentleman it belongs to; yes, says I, I am, and I have been robbed not half an hour ago; I immediately asked him who he had it of, he pointed to the person that was there, John Rowe ; I immediately seized him and kept him in my custody till I delivered him to the public office in Hatton-garden, but in the mean while I was there on the spot where I found the things, a gentleman who lives in Henry-street, Pentonville, came down and said, that he saw the prisoner with the property, and stopped him, his name is Thomas Emmett , he saw these two young men at the bar, he stopped one of them, and he saw one of them with some property; I think he stopped John Martin , I am not positive; he was not with me when I went after these men; he went back again to inform my wife; I found nothing on Rowe, but there was a blanket tied up in a blue apron, something like an apron that a drover wears, and inside that apron was my blanket; there was six or seven people there as spectators, and John Rowe was amongst them, Thomas Emmett took Martin and I took Rowe; Martin as well as Rowe was among the people; I did not know the prisoners till I was informed by the people who were there before me. Thomas Emmett assisted me in taking these two lads to the office.

Q. How had the people got into your house? - By forcing the sash of the window up in the parlour.

Q. Had you been in the parlour after you came home before you went into the kitchen? - No, nor before I went up stairs, I went not in till I heard the alarm.

Q. Did you pass by the parlour window when you came home? - I did not pass by it, but I saw the sash was down when I went into my own house, I am sure of that. I did not know either of them before; when I came home I did not see them near the house to the best of my knowledge; during the time I was running I did not see them at all; I did not find the mahogany table nor the glass.


I am the wife of the last witness. On the 22d of December I found the window open about six o'clock, my husband was just gone up stairs; I happened to go into the parlour, I did not hear any noise the wind was so extremely high; I had been in about half an hour before, and I know the sash was shut then; I called out to my husband, he came down, and I missed my tea tray, a looking glass, a mahogany table, a mahogany tea chest, and a watch case; I immediately ran and called out to the people and said, that I suppose they were gone, and a person that came by said, that he met a man with the tea tray under his arm.


On the 22d of December, Saturday; I was coming from my work, a person called out in the street, and they asked me if I had seen any person with houshold property about him; I said, I had not; I went forwards and came

round by the New-river head, and in coming out I saw a boy running across the fields with something in his hand, that I suppose it might be this tea chest, I stopped over to him and asked him what he had got in his hand? he told me he did not know; I told him there was a neighbour of mine of whom I was informed, had their house broke open; I suspected that this was part of the property; I took it from him, it was a kind of a stand for a watch to move in, a kind of a japan case; I asked him how he came by it? he said, that coming over the fields it lay in his way and he kicked it before him; I told him that probably he might have found it, but as there was an house broke open I should detain him till I was satisfied; I laid hold of him in order to detain him, we went down the field together; when we came nearly to the bottom of the field, he called out some name or other which I have forgot; but he said, he was hobbled; I went a little farther, and just round the corner I observed two men standing and the one of them had a gun in his hand, and he called to me what is the matter? I was alarmed a little, it was a star light night, I rather apprehended that it was the person the prisoner called out to and said, he was hobbled to; I thought it was best to keep him in custody, and the man came nearer to me and he addressed me exactly in these words, says he, what is the matter? sir, says I, there is a boy here that I have found with a little matter about him; says he, there is another over the ditch, do you know what is lost, and he clapped the gun on the ditch, and he said, if you stir a foot I will shoot you; it is the big one, John Martin , that I saw in the ditch, I had hold of John Rowe ; he, Martin, was standing in the ditch, I asked him to come over; he told me he should not come over as he had lost one of his shoes in the ditch till such time as he found it again; I at the same time saw the tea chest and the bundle that it was laid on the ground to the value of three or four yards from me; I asked him how he came by this property? he told me he was coming down the side of the field and he saw a person running before him, and he had something or another with him, that he was rather surprised to see the man run, that he followed him and that he came something near him, and that he chucked this bundle into the ditch, and the man ran away across over the brick fields; I addressed myself to the men that were there then standing by, as some more had come round us, and told them if they would be so good to detain the prisoners, I would make the best of my way back and inform the person in Pentonville that I had found the prisoners; I went back and informed Mrs. Burden, and went back again and both of them were detained, and the property then was laid on the ground in the presence of the two prisoners. I am quite certain, upon my oath, that these were the two young men, one of which I saw with the watch case in his hand, and the other that I saw in the ditch.

Prisoner Rowe. I did not say that I was hobbled, I hallooed to my fellow servant, I am taken up for nothing. - He said, he was hobbled. When that other young man, Martin, came over he asked the little one Rowe, he said, do you know any thing of me? he said, he did not, and they both persisted in it, that they had no knowledge of each other all the way to the office.

Court. How far might the distance be from where you took Rowe, to the place where you found Martin in the ditch? - I suppose it could not be less that two hundred yards.

Q. Did you overtake Rowe or meet him? - When I was going down the road

he was going across the field, out of all road, he was on one side, I catched hold of him, if I had not been there he would have run immediately into the road going from Pentonville into Cold Bath fields.

Q. Did you pursue the same road after you took him, that he was going? - I did, I was not in the least apprehensive of meeting with any other; I intended to have gone as far as the public house and to have got the people belonging to the public house to detain him, while I went back to Pentonville, only I was deprived of that opportunity by the circumstance that interfered.

Q. You saw nobody near him when you took him? - No, I did not.


I live opposite to Mr. Burden; I looked over at six o'clock and I saw a light in the room, and was surprised, and I saw three persons in the room, I did not know who they were, nor what they were doing; I did not see them come out; this was before the alarm.


I am a constable; I produce a tea chest, a watch case, and a blanket that was brought to the public office Hatton-garden, about seven o'clock in the evening of the 22d of December; Emmett brought them to me and some other things. (Deposed to.)

Court to Mr Burden. How was your sashes fastened? - By a spring fastening, the sash was forced up, and by that means the spring is not so good as it was.

Prisoner Martin. I works with my father preparing rushes for the tallow chandlers, and I had been finishing some work that day, and on the night I was going up to Mr. Springall's a tallow chandler at Islington, two men coming along they said, get out of the way, they chucked this bundle over the bank and they ran away, and I got over to look at it, and two men came up, one with the gun, and they asked me what I did there? I said, nothing; they said, there is a man just now that has been knocked down and robbed, and they laid hold of me, and that gentleman came along, and the two men said, I must go, and they let me loose in the mob, and I stood in among them; I am really as innocent of it as the child unborn; the two men that took me into custody is not here, they let me go, they said, they would have nothing to do with it; I do not know who they are, I never saw them before in my life; I was loose among the mob above ten minutes.

Prisoner Rowe. I was coming from Islington leading a drove of sheep, coming across the fields I saw a man with a four legged table on his head, I immediately followed him and gets over into the field, and he makes pretence to buckle his shoe and left the watch case on the ground, when I came up close to him says he, here is something for you; says I, I don't want it, and I turned about and picked it up and was going along and that man came over to me.

Court to Caseby. Did you know either of these men before? - I knew Rowe but I did not know Martin.

The prisoner Martin called one witness to his character.

John Rowe , GUILTY . Death . (Aged 14.)

John Martin , GUILTY . Death . (Aged 17.)

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr Justice WILSON.

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127. JAMES MANN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 28th of December , an iron shovel with a wooden handle, value 2 s. the goods of our sovereign lord the King .

A 2d COUNT laying it to be the property of John Hayley .


I am a private soldier in the first regiment of life guards; I shut up my stable on the 28th of last month; about five o'clock in the morning following the stable was broke open and shovel was gone; I came to the stable about seven o'clock, the door was not locked, it was fastened with a staple and a wooden peg, it was fastened inside; the shovel was there over night, the shovel belonged to his Majesty, it is provided for the use of the regiment; the shovel was gone, and I heard tell of a shovel being sold with such and such marks on, and I heard tell where the man worked that bought the shovel, and I went and owned it, it was in the New Road going up from Paddington, it was on a green, when I owned it no one had it; I knew it by the marks, there was a 4 and T for troop and four round holes burned in it; all the shovels are marked different.

- WHITEHALL sworn.

I was at a public house the 30th of last month and James Mann had this shovel to sell, and I bought it of him, it was at the bottom of Bell-street, almost against the Edgeware-road, I gave 2 s. for it of the prisoner at the bar; I bought it for my brother; I gave it to him the same day at the Brazenhead; my brother is not here, he is at work now.

Q. Do you know what he did with it? - Yes, digging foundations, where I can hardly say; I know the name of the place it is in Mary-le-bone parish.

Q. Should you know the shovel again was you to see it? - I have got it here now.

Q. How do you know that is the same shovel you bought of the man - I marked it at the Justices, and I know it, by this here mark a T and a figure of 4, I observed these marks when I bought him of Mann; I am sure it is the same shovel, there were four round holes, but I did not take any particular notice of them at the time I bought him of Mann.


I saw this man buy the shovel of John Mann , I did not look at the shovel at all.

Prisoner. I bought the shovel and paid for it, of a man that was broke down in distress, I bought it of him and sold it again to this man, there was nobody with me; I was going to my work to my master, Mr. Welling's the cow keeper.

Kilby. I knew him before, he is a working man I never heard any harm of him never in my life.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

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128. PATRICK READ was indicted for that he on the 3d of November , with a certain pistol loaded with gun powder and divers leaden shots, maliciously, wilfully and feloniously did shoot at one Daniel Jones , the said Daniel Jones then and there being on the King's highway against the form of the statute and against the King's peace .

RICHARD - sworn.

I was present on the 3d of November; I was the outside of the mail coach, I was going down to Dover; at the Gloucester coffee house the mail coach stopped to take up a gentleman which filled the inside, as soon as the gentleman

got into the coach the coachman crossed to the left hand side of Piccadilly, and just as we got to the dead wall, an hackney coach came near to us; on the near side, and drove forcibly by us; after he had passed us, when we got to Dover-street, he slackened his pace till we came even with him, a breast, as soon as we got even with him he began whipping his horses and set them on a gallop and got before us, I was rather alarmed for I was afraid our leaders would be frightened by his conduct; when we got opposite Park-street or Park-lane, he waited till we got up to him again, as soon as we got opposite to him again, he began whipping his horses and passed through Hyde-park turnpike, we were a little behind him, some persons crossing the turnpike prevented our horses going furiously, which gave the hackney coachman a good opportunity of getting some distance before us; when we got opposite St George's hospital, I saw the coach going on very gently, the mail coachman said to me, I wish to God the fellow would get on before me, the hackney coachman suffered us to come opposite to him again, as soon as we got a breast to him, he began galloping his horses just as he had done before; when we got to Knightsbridge a man put his head out of the coach and said, Damn him whip him; our driver began whipping the hackney coachman, and the hackney coachman gave him two strokes with the whip; I held my head down as low as I could in order to avoid having a cut across the eyes; the mail coachman learned over me to whip the driver of the hackney coach; in a very little time I heard the discharge of a pistol; I immediately holds my head up, and I said to the coachman, I hope to God the guard has not shot him, I am not satisfied about it I wish you would enquire; the coachman turns about to the guard, he says, Pat you have not shot at him; he said, no, I shot at or about his legs, I cannot be positive which; on that we went on to Brentford; but I recollect the guard should say to me, sir, did not you see him cut me across the face, says he, sir, he has cut me across the face here, and it is all over dirt; at Brentford at a public house on the right hand side of the way, the coachman stopped and the guard got down and said, give me a cloth to wipe my face, a wet cloth, and he did wipe his face, I did not see his face. We then proceeded on to our journey and I got to Andover, and coming up I enquired of his character, and I heard an extreme good character of the guard.

Mr. Fielding. You was leaning down in case you should receive a blow, and it was in that situation that you heard the pistol fired? - I am sure I had not raised myself up when I heard it fired.

Q. So that the mail coach might have brought the guard within the hackney coachman's whip at the time you heard the pistol? - It might.

Court. What part of the coach did the prisoner set in? - He was the guard of the mail, he sat behind.

Mr. Fielding. Did you hear there was an additional bag that day? - When I was at the Inn in the city, I heard him swearing to some of the men that they were wrong in filling up his place behind, and I see a white bag in his hand.


I was first coach at Leicester-fields on the Saturday night this happened, and there was William Fly and Charles Groves were talking of going home to Knightsbridge, they live at Knightsbridge, and they were talking about going home, I said to William Fly, you may as well have a coach home, and I went as far as Piccadilly, and we had a pot of beer, when we went in the house, Daniel Jones was sitting on the bench, I said,

are you going home Daniel? he said, yes; when we drank the pot of beer we all came out to go home, Daniel Jones said, he would rather ride outside, and I went inside, we went on from thence till we got just this side of Downing-street; I said, Daniel don't go so fast; I saw a coach coming, I suppose it was the mail coach, just at Hyde-park corner, he went faster again, I said, Daniel why do you go so fast, and just as I came to Knightsbridge I put my head out of the window, and I says to the mail coachman take and whip him, the mail coach went by then.

Q. Why did you say so then? - I cannot give any reason for saying so only by his going fast. When the coachman came opposite of him, he began whipping of him, and Daniel Jones returned it again, and just as we came to the butcher's the mail coach got about twenty yards before, and there the guard fired at the hackney coachman; I observed the mail coachman whip him about three or four times, and Daniel returned it again, and when the mail got before, the guard fired.

Q. Did Jones continue to whip? - They whipped one another.

Q. Do you know whether he whipped the prisoner? - No, I don't know, Daniel Jones after that pulled up and said, you may get out and drive yourself; I says to the two men in the coach, I believe Jones is shot, and I put him in the coach, and I took him up to the hospital.

Mr. Garrow. Your party consisted of Groves, and Fly and yourself, all of you coachmen and horse keepers? - Yes.

Q. Where had you been drinking together when you set out from Leicester-fields? - No where at all.

Q. All sober? - Yes as I am now.

Q. You have told my lord that the hackney coachman and the mail coachman, kept whipping one another three or four times? - Yes.

Q. Did not you say before the magistrate that they whipped one another eight or nine times; then almost immediately as you heard the mail coach go past, you heard the report of the pistol. Jones slackened his pace after you called to him twice? - He did.

Q. Notwithstanding which he kept going on very fast? - He did.


I was behind the hackney coach; I got up behind at the turnpike, the coach was going very fast, the mail coach was behind; against Knightsbridge chapel the mail coach went past the hackney coach, William Brown and William Fly and Charles Groves cries out, whip him coachman, whip him coachman, they spoke to the mail coachman, the mail coachman hit him with the whip, and he returned it again several times, and the coach passed the hackney coach about the butcher's shop, and I heard the report of a pistol going off, and I looked forward and the guard of the mail coach was turned round in his seat, and a little after he began to blow his horn; Daniel Jones kept driving up to the corner of Sloan-street, and the mail went away from him.

Mr. Garrow. Did you see whether Jones gave any blow to the guard? - I did not; they whiped one another and then the mail coach went on a little away.

Q. So that he was near enough to obstruct the guard? - He was.

Q. Did the hackney coachman continue whipping as the mail coach was passing? - They both continued whipping one another as long as they could.


I was in the coach; I saw the mail coach behind us just before we got to Hyde-park corner till we got just this side of Dr. Kelly's gateway, and they

both kept together for a dozen yards or so, and Brown put his head out and says, Daniel Jones go gently, and then we hallooed out to the mail coachman, whip our coachman, with that they began whipping one another, there was ten or a dozen blows apiece I suppose struck, and he kept on ten or a dozen yards, with that there was a piece fired, I did not see it, I see the flash of it, with that Jones goes nigh a dozen of yards or so and says, you must come out and drive yourself for I am shot; I did not see him aim at him, I cannot say I did.


I was driving an hackney coach on the 3d of November, I was driving home, as I was coming along the mail overtook me and I kept before the mail, I kept my own pace and he kept his.

Q. Did not you go faster than you had done? - No.

Q. Are you sure of that? - Yes.

Q. Was you in liquor at all? - I was not, I kept before him as I was before him.

Q. You had not mended your pace? - No.

Q. How near was the mail coach to you when you first saw it? - He was near to me but I kept before him, he got close to me at last, I kept before him all the way till he came in nearly this side of Knightsbridge, then I broke way for him, but I reckoned that they ought to have the best horses going and not such poor horses as hackney coaches have got.

Q. Then his horses were not so good as your's? - Yes, a great deal better if he had had a mind to try them.

Q. You wanted to try with him? - No, there were as much room for him as for me.

Q. I look upon it you stopped him from going along? - There was nothing passed between us no otherwise but the guard shot me.

Q. Was there any thing passed between you and the other coachman? - Yes, the coachman whipped at me and I whipped at him again, he only whipped me as he passed by.

Q. Did you continue whipping as he passed by? - I whipped at the coachman, but not so often as he did at me.

Q. How often did he whip at you? - I cannot tell, but the coach was going on all the time; when the guard came along side of the box that I was on, he said, now damn your blood I'll blow your brains out; he might be about ten yards from me before he fired.

Mr. Garrow. He damned your blood as he was passing? - He did.

Q. So that every body must have heard it; he said it in a very furious passion, did not he? - He did.


I am one of his Majesty's messengers; this was the guard of the Weymouth coach, during his Majesty's residence there; I have had frequent opportunities of observing his conduct; I always looked upon him to be a very civil sober man, remarkable good natured and civil.


I keep the one tun at Brentford; I remember the mail coach arriving to my inn about two months ago, it was on that night that the accident happened on the road, Patrick Read the prisoner, came into my house that night, he asked me to look in his face, on his right cheek I saw a mark, and he told me that the hackney coachman whipped him as he was coming down Knightsbridge, it was a wheal appeared to be recently given by a stroke of a whip; he appeared always a good natured well behaved man as ever I saw in my life; I have known him three or four years.

Mrs. WHITE sworn.

I am the wife of the last witness; I remember the guard coming to the house, he asked me to look in his face, and asked me if I did not see a mark in his face, there was a mark on his right cheek bone as if done by a whip.


I am a superintendant of the mail coaches; the prisoner has been a guard five years, a very good natured well behaved man, so well behaved that the Comptroller general singled him out as one of the best guards to go with the Weymouth coach, and when his Majesty was at Weymouth the last time, lord Chesterfield wrote, that the same man might attend guard as by his Majesty's express desire.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

Reference Number: t17930109-7

129. GEORGE MACKAY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 20th of December , one linen gown, value 10 s. the goods of Martha Jenks , spinster .

No evidence was given against him.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

Reference Number: t17930109-8

130. WILLIAM TAYLOR was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 4th of January , seven linen shirts, value 40 s. three cambrick half handkerchiefs, value 6 s. a cambrick neck handkerchief, value 3 s. the goods of Edward Buck .


I live in Cecil-court, St. Martin's-lane . On the 4th of January I lost seven shirts, three half cambrick handkerchiefs, one double one, out of my back kitchen; I found one shirt on the prisoner, on the 4th of January, I knew him before, he came to visit a lodger that lodged in the house about three weeks ago since he first came, he continued to come frequently about three times a week, to the best of my knowledge; I had missed some things before the 4th of January, I missed six shirts, not at once, but every day I looked them over, I thought my servant might have made away with them; ever since the prisoner's friend Champion came to lodge in the house, I lost something every Week; last Friday evening he was detected with one shirt in his pocket; I had no suspicion of him before the servant John Mills saw him put it in his pocket; I saw him take the shirt out of his pocket, I desired him; I told him he had been seen, that was all that was found upon him; I charged the watch with him, and took him down to the watch-house, it was half after ten at night; I keep a public house; the shirt was marked E. B. I have had it in my custody ever since. (Produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. How many times was I in your house during the time my friend lived with you? - About three times a week.

Q. Where was I when you took me? - He was in the parlour.

Q. I was in the passage at the door coming from a little kind of pantry. - He was in the parlour and ordered a glass of crank, he was going out from the parlour door from the passage.

Prisoner. My lord I took it to be a clout, and I took it to wipe my hands upon.

John Mills was called upon his recognizance, and did not appear.

JANE CARR sworn.

I am sister to the last witness; I was in the pantry for a plate, and I heard the scrape of a foot; I saw a man in the pantry opening a cupboard and taking the shirt out, he went into the back yard and unfolded the shirt, and held it up to the light; I saw him do it, and he folded it up again, and put it into his pocket, and buttoned his coat over it; I was in the pantry the same time he was in; I was in before him and had no light; but I could see him; I was behind the door; he carried the shirt into the yard, and held it up to look at it by the light of the parlour window; he went along the passage, and I followed him as close as I could; as I followed him close, he asked then for a glass of crank, and he went into the parlour, and directly as he went into the parlour, I went to my brother in the bar, and told him I had found the thief out, and my brother came out of the bar and met him coming out of the parlour door, and my brother past him, and said, he had got something more about him than he ought to have; he said, he had not; my brother insisted on seeing; I followed him, and I saw him pull the shirt out of his pocket before a number of people that were in the room; then he was taken to the watch house.

Prisoner. I would wish to ask her what she was doing in that pantry? - I went for a plate.

Prisoner. She was playing with John Mills that is not come forward; my intention was to wash my hands; I saw her as well as she saw me? - There was nobody with me in the pantry.

Prisoner. I went to see my friend, who lives at this man's house who is a taylor, which is frequented by taylors; I went up stairs and stayed two hours with my friend, who is a ladies shoemaker, and earns a guinea and a half a week; I came down stairs, he desired to light me down; I told him I did not wish to be lighted down as he was very busy, I supposed I could find my way down; the stairs are exceeding bad, and coming down I slipped my foot and fell down three or four steps, and I put my hand into some dirt, it appeared to me to be dogs dirt, I went into the pantry where that lady and this John Mills were concealed, just a little behind the door; I saw them both very well, there was a kind of a little cupboard which was open; I took up some kind of linen to wipe my hands, and went to go into the yard to wash them; I went into the yard and washed my hands, this man came and forced me into the tap room, where there were eight or ten taylors, and he had me secured and sent to the watch-house; I am a servant of Mr. Lamires, my master will give me an honest and just character; I served general Toning three years; I have nobody here now because I expected to be tried at Hick's-hall, on Friday.

Q. When did you leave general Toning's service? - I was five weeks out of service between living with him and Mr. Lamire.

Court to Jane Carr . Did he wash his hands? - No my lord.

GUILTY . (Aged 45.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

Reference Number: t17930109-9

131. GEORGE MORRISON was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 20th of December , one cloth coat, called a box coat, value 2 l. the goods of Robert Jenkins .


I lost this coat out of a chaise, on the 20th of December, Thursday; I was not

present, I had brought it up that morning from the country, and I see it last at the stable, about ten o'clock in the morning.


I am a publican, I live at the Rose and Crown, Aldgate, I see the prisoner at the bar come round the chaise, I know it to be the prosecutor's, and he took a box coat, it laid on the seat, some part on the seat and some in the chaise, the chaise stood right opposite my door, the lad was with it; I was standing at my own door and see the transaction; he walked away with it, directly I crossed over to him, and asked him what he was going to do with it, directly he run away, immediately I pursued him, and took him, I gave an alarm and came up to him, a person had stopped him, and he had then the coat under his arm, I never lost sight of him, I collared him, and took the coat, and gave it to one Scott, a person I knew perfectly well; I should know the coat again.


I am a servant to Mr. Solomon, in Bury-street, I was going up the Blue Boar, Aldgate, and heard the cry of stop thief, I immediately runs back and met Mr. Fisher, with the prisoner and coat; he knew me, and desired me to take care of the coat, I took it, and have now brought it from the watch-house, I there delivered it into the hands of Mr. Jenkin's.


I am constable belonging to Portsoken ward, I heard the irruption in the street, and I saw Mr. Fisher with this man, and he said, he would not go along with him, but he would with me; Soott was there, and had the coat under his arm, I took charge of the prisoner, and took him to the watch-house; I produce the great coat, I received it of Mr. Jenkins, the Thursday, within an hour after it was taken from the prisoner, and it hath been in my custody ever since.

Court to Jenkins. Was your lad with the chaise? - He was; I received the great coat of Scott. (Deposed to.)

Prisoner. I have nothing to say.

GUILTY . (Aged 20.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-10

132. JAMES GUY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 18th of December , a pair of cotton stockings, value 3 s. a pair of stockings, made of silk and cotton, value 5 s. the goods of Jonathan Stirtevant .


Mr. Stirtevant is my uncle; the prisoner came into the shop, and asked me to shew him some stockings, I shewed him some, one paper, he said, he did not like them, I shewed him another, he said, they were too coarse, in turning about for the third paper, I missed a pair of ribbed cotton, when I missed that pair, I rung the bell for my uncle John, he came, and I shewed him some silk and cotton stockings, I was in the back part of the shop, I saw him he opened some silk and cotton, and I saw the prisoner put a pair of them in his pocket, I went up stairs and told my eldest uncle, and he came down, he is here now, the other could not conveniently leave the shop; the other uncle's name is Jonathan, when the prisoner had got over the threshold my uncle Jonathan took hold of his arm, and told him he had got a pair of stockings more than his own, he came back in the shop, and said, he had, he delivered one pair out of his pocket, I told him he had another pair in his other pocket, he said,

he had, and he delivered them out, I saw them both taken out of his pocket; they were Mr. Jonathan Stirtevant's property; I believe they had no marks on them; I saw him put the striped pair, the silk and cotton in his pocket.

Mr. Garrow. Are your uncles in partnership? - No.

Q. Who has the business? - Mr. Jonathan; Mr. John shewed the stockings, be is a shopman, he serves in the shop, he has no share in the trade at all.

Q. How came you before the magistrate to describe them to be the property of your uncle? - I did not.

Q. The young man immediately produced them on his coming back? - He did.


I am the person that was up stairs, I carry on the trade, my niece came up stairs, and I went down in consequence; I waited in the shop to see whether the man would buy the stockings, he seemed very difficult, none would do; he wished us good morning, and was going out of the shop, he got over the threshold, and was pulling the door to with his right hand, and I laid hold of his arm, and told him, he had got some stockings of mine, he came in, and pulled out one pair, my niece said, he had got another pair, he pulled them out also; the stockings were given to the constable.


I was the constable; I produce the stockings delivered to me by the prosecutor, I have kept them ever since. (Deposed to.)

Mr. Garrow to Mr. Stirtevant. Does your brother's salary depend on the profits and losses of the trade? - No, it is a stated salary.

Prisoner. I went into the shop to buy these stockings, I asked the price, he said 7 s. 6 d. I said it was too much for the stockings, I would give 6 s. so then, he said, he could not take it, but then he said take it, and I bought both pairs.

Court to Elizabeth Rankin . Is it true that he bought them? - He never asked the price of them.

Court to Prosecutor. Did he buy any? - He did not buy any at all.


I live in the parish of Whitechapel, Colchester-street, I am a carpenter, I have known the prisoner ever since his infancy, he was a gardener, his father lives at Yarmouth, he bore an exceeding good character down to this time.


I live in Play-house-yard, I am a cord-wainer, I have known the prisoner from his infancy, he bore an exceeding good character till now.


I am the prisoner's brother, I live at Yarmouth, I came up from Yarmouth on this occasion, I am a taylor, my father is a gardener, I never heard a slaw before till this time, it has filled all our hearts with sorrow to hear of it.

GUILTY . (Aged 24.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-11

133. WILLIAM IRELAND was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 4th of January , eighteen iron curtain rods, value 1 l. 5 s. the goods of Nicholas Finney .

(The case was opened by Mr. Garrow.)


I carry on the business of an upholsterer , in Moorfields ; the prisoner has been

with me eight or nine years, I had a very good opinion of him, so good, that I gave him 2 s. a week more than any other man I keep; these curtain rods were deposited in the cellar, I lost such, I believe them to be my property.


I had lived with Mr. Finney four years and a half; between the hour of seven and eight on Friday, the 4th of January, in the evening the prisoner came backward, and went down into the cellar, and took the iron rods out of the cellar, and he went out of doors, when we went out of doors leaving off work, he whipped up the court, and took him on his shoulder, this was about eight o'clock, he had left them in that court, it is a private court. I asked him what he was going to do with them, he said, he was going to sell them to make up some rent, he said, he could sell them at three or four places, and asked me to go with him, we went to a house in Petticoat-lane, the man's name was Jones; Ireland offered him the rods to sell, and Jones offered him a penny a pound, the price of old iron, Ireland said, that would not do, he said, he would go up further, and see if he could get more, in the mean time Mr. Armstrong came in, and he asked whose rods they were? Ireland made answer and said, they are mine, he said more than that, he thought it very hard he could not go, and sell his own property, as he wanted money so bad; then Mr. Armstrong laid hold of him, and ordered somebody to take the curtain rods; these are the same that are now secured, they were Mr. Finney's.

Q. Was you to have any share of this money? - No, there was no mention of a share.

Prisoner. William Holland took the rods? - I did not.

Q. He took them out of the house, and carried them to his house? - I did not, upon my oath, Ireland took them out of the house, they never were at my house.

Court. Did you accompany him the moment he took them out of the court to Jones's? - I did.

Q. You knew he was about to sell them for his own use? - He said, he was going to make money for them for his own use.

Q. They were your master's property? - They were.

Q. You knowing this, was not you to have some share of it? - I did not expect any share upon my oath.

Q. It seems to me a strange thing that he should trust you with the secret, except you was to have some advantage by it? - I am sure I was to have none, nor did he mention a word to me about it.


I am a dealer in broken flint glass, I keep a horse and cart, and go about collecting it.

Q. Old iron is a part of that commodity? - All of that kind.

Q. Do you remember the prisoner coming to your house on the 4th of January? - He did, I am in partnership with a Jew, Samuel Phillips , and so there was no light in the shop, because it was Sabbath; these two men came into the shop with the curtain rods, they shut the door, they both came in, which spoke I don't know.

Q. We must take our pens and ink, or I see we shall never get through. - Now who spoke? - I cannot be positive.

Q. Did you know them both before? - I never saw them before, they asked me if I would buy them, I said, it would not suit me, I bought old iron at one penny a pound, but them I would not buy at all, they laid them down on their shoulders, and were going out, and Mr. Armstrong came in.

Q. Did either of them say to whom they belonged when Mr. Armstrong came in? - He asked them, and Ireland said, he was the owner of them.


In the course of my walks I looked in on Mr. Phillips's and Mr. Jones's, on last Friday night between eight and nine, I went by this door, and there was a little hole, and I looked in, and I saw three persons in the shop, I went round to the back door, and knocked at that, and came round to the fore door, and it was opened, I looked in, and Ireland had the curtain rods in his hand, and Holland was standing on one side of him, and Jones close aside of him, I asked Ireland whose these curtain rods were? he said, they belong to me, he had had them pawned, I asked him if he would give me his address, he said, he was an housekeeper, and lived in Christopher's-alley, he said, it was very hard a man could not sell his own property, when he wanted money, I said, I should take him and Holland to the magistrate, and I desired Mr. Jones to put the things on his shoulder, which he readily did, and he went with us to the magistrate, when I came to the magistrate, they said, they would tell the truth, and Ireland said, he found them in a court. (The examination was not taken in writing.) This was when he was waiting in the office to be examined; they were examined, and the next morning Mr. Finney came to the office, and claimed them, this was Friday night they were taken. Holland was admitted an evidence on the Monday following; he was committed on Friday till Monday, and then bail was given for him on Monday night, he has been at large ever since. (The rods produced.)


I am a smith, I made these rods which Armstrong has produced for Mr. Finney.

Court. You make a great many rods I suppose? - I do, these are the same sort and size, I made for Mr. Finney about six weeks ago.

Prisoner. Last Friday night between six and seven o'clock, Holland took these rods out of Mr. Finney's cellar, I was up stairs, when I came out into the shop about eight we came out together, Holland says to me, Ireland I have got a lot of rods, says he, they are at my house, I went with him, and he brought them down from his house, and he carried them on his own shoulder to Mr. Jones's, to Petticoat-lane, and he bid us a penny a pound, and Mr. Armstrong came in, and if Mr. Armstrong had not come in, I should have taken them to my master's house that evening.

Court to Mr. Finney. Did you examine your cellar to find if you had lost any thing? - I have got the fellow rods in my cellar to these now in court, and I missed them out of the cellar.

GUILTY . (Aged 36.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-12

134. JAMES FIN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 7th of January , a watch, the inside case made of silver, gilt with gold; the outside case made of base metal, value 2 l. a base metal watch chain, gilt with gold, value 2 s. a base metal watch key, value 1 d. the goods of Thomas Bryant .


I am with my brother, the trunk maker, the corner of St Paul's Church Yard; I lost my watch, on the 7th of January, coming up Ludgate-hill, about a quarter before twelve o'clock at night; the prisoner met me at the corner of the Old Bailey and asked me what hour it was; I immediately pulled out my watch, and informed him it wanted a quarter to twelve; he immediately snatched my watch out of my hand, and ran up the Old Bailey; I immediately

hallooed stop thief; the watchman pursued him and overtook him, and he was taken; the watch was found in the kennel, about twenty yards up the Old Bailey or thereabouts; I had been at the other end of the town, to spend my evening, I had not drank, I did not see him taken; the man who snatched my watch, ran that way; the constable has the watch. (Produced and deposed to.) I am sure that is the man.

Prisoner. I never saw the man in my life time till he gave charge of me.

- ROGERS sworn.

I am the watchman, I heard the cry of stop thief; I saw a man running from Ludgate-hill, up the Old Bailey; I was in my watch box, the corner of the Old Bailey and Ludgate-hill; I followed directly, I met him up by Surgeon's-hall, he ran across the way, and there I laid hold of him, I am sure the man I laid hold of, was the man that was running, for I never lost sight of him; when I laid hold of the man, Mr. Bryant came up, and I gave my charge to the patrole, I found part of the watch in the kennel without the case, I carried it to the young man, and I went back again and found the case in the kennel; and he was carried down to the constable of the night.

Prisoner. As I was coming along, I heard a cry of stop thief; I saw a man run by me; the prosecutor was much intoxicated with liquor, he says I believe this is the man; I turned about to see what was the matter, seeing them running and calling stop thief.

The prisoner called one witness to his character.

Prisoner. Mr. Bryant was in liquor very much, so that no one could take his word for any thing.

Constable. Mr. Bryant was rather in liquor, but not so much as the prisoner represents; he certainly knew what he did.


Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Lord CHIEF BARON.

Reference Number: t17930109-13

135. JOHN LANGLY was indicted for feloniously stealing on the 22d of November , a copper boiling pot, and cover, value 6 s. the goods of Henrietta Bencraft widow .


I am Mrs. Bencrafts footman; I believe about the 21st or 22d of November last, my mistress lost a porridge pot, and cover, it was taken from the back door of the dwelling, it was on the fire by ten o'clock at night, it had dogs victuals in it and it was put outside to cool; we found it missing the next morning about eight o'clock; I found it in Mr. James's possession at Uxbridge, about a fortnight afterwards; I have sworn to it.


The pot was brought to sell, by one Mrs. Sarah Bonsell , I cannot particularly tell the day, it was a Thursday; it was in my possession a fortnight or three weeks, before it was claimed by Mr. Midwinter, and was delivered to Matthews.


Langly brought it to me, and said it belonged to a poor woman that was sick, and could not get out of her bed; and I went and sold it to Mr. James; I cannot tell the name of the poor woman he mentioned; I have known him before, he lived at Hillingdon, I lived at Uxbridge; I carried it to Mr. James's, and I sold it for 6 s. when I brought him the money

back, I chastised him, and asked him if the pot was honestly got, he said it was, he did not like to carry it to sell, it was more fitter for a woman to do, than for he.


I am a constable, the prisoner came to me on Friday, and asked me if I wanted him, I told him I did, he said he came to deliver himself up, and there he was all night, and then I delivered him up to the magistrate, I have kept the pot in my possession ever since it was carried to the justice's by James, and after he was examined it was put into my possession. (Produced and deposed to.)

Court to Midwinter. Where did that back door open to? - It opened facing the gardens.

Prisoner. I found a bundle of wood in a ditch, and I took the bundle of wood out, and then I saw the pot was underneath there; I told that woman that I found it, and she said she would go and sell it for me, she went and brought me 4 s.

Bonsell. I gave him 6 s.

Prisoner. Did not you tell me that Mr. James had given you 4 s. and if that would not do he would return the pot? - No, I did not.

Court to Bonsell. He says you know him, what is his character? - I cannot justly say, what he does for his bread, nor nobody else I believe.

Midwinter. He never would stick at any thing, now and then he would do a day's work, and that is all.

Court to James. What passed between you and the woman, when you bought the pot, she said she brought the pot, and that it belonged to a poor woman at Hillingdon, I gave her 6 s. for it, the prisoner came again to me afterwards and said I had given a bad shilling, which I knew I had not.


Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

Reference Number: t17930109-14

136. JOHN BROWN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the first of January , one iron bar, value 5 s. the goods of John Cruglestine .


I lost an iron bar, on Tuesday evening of the last week, near Bedford-square, Tottenham court road , No. 31, it was in the house behind the passage door, it was to fasten the shop window shutters, I see it that very night, afterwards I went and a man brought it out of the watch-house, I had seen it between five and six o'clock, on the first of January, I came at ten o'clock in the evening, to shut up the shop, and the iron bar was gone; after that in consequence of information, I went directly to the watch-house, and fetched the iron bar back again; the next morning the magistrate sent for the iron bar; then after that I was before the magistrate, and swore to my bar, that I had sent him.

Q. Who was the man that brought it back to you the night before? - William Robinson .

Q. That was the same bar, that William Robinson brought back to you? - It was.

Q. Is that the same bar you use to fasten up your shop window with? - Yes. The passage door always stands open, the bar is here; I was told before I went and looked in, that the bar was gone; and I went with the gentleman that the house belongs to, and found the bar at the watch-house.


I left work at six o'clock at night, and was going home with my tools, and I saw the prisoner at the bar, at the door with the bar; and he doubled the bar together at the joints, and I went into Mr. Cruglestine's house with my tools, and left my basket there; and I pursued the man through two or three

streets, till we came to Rathbone-place, and there I took him, I had him in my sight all the time; I saw a watchman, I told him, that man had stole the bar, and then I crossed over directly and took him, he held the bar on his shoulder, we brought him back to the house, and I met the patrole in Tottenham-court-road, and took him to the watch-house, and the bar to Mr. Cruglestine, I went and fetched it that night, with Mr. Slade, the butcher, that the house belongs to; the next day the patrole, and the watchman came to fetch him before the justices, when we went to the house to fetch the bar again, the owner was gone to another shop, he keeps two shops, he did not go himself till Friday morning, then he went to the justice's, and swore to his property.

Prisoner. I know nothing of the bar, I picked it up; the handkerchief was tied about it at the time. (Produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. I don't know the prosecutor's name, he now swears that he put it behind his back door, before the magistrate he swore he always puts it behind the street door.

Jury to Robinson. Was it tied up with an handkerchief? - He doubled it, and took it up and ran, and the handkerchief was tied up as he ran along to keep it together.

Court to Cruglestine. What door was this you put it behind? - It was behind a passage door in the street.

GUILTY . (Aged 46.)

Imprisoned 3 months , and publickly whipped .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

Reference Number: t17930109-15

137. JOHN PRICE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 4th of January , two silk cloaks, value 40 s. the goods of Edward Staff .


I am, by profession, a victualler ; but out of employ at present. About five o'clock in the afternoon, on Friday last, I lost this cloak a little above Middle Row, Holborn . I was coming towards Middle-Row; I was coming along, a sudden motion I felt at my pocket caused me to turn about. I found immediately my pocket was picked; and, from the sudden motion, I naturally put my hand in my pocket; and I found a black silk cloak was taken out of my great coat pocket Two men were turning about, on which I followed them immediately; and, in about ten paces, I laid hold of them. I said to the people about, give me assistance, these two villains have robbed me. I laid hold of the two; and they being too strong, forced themselves from my hands; on account of that I cries out stop thief; the witness present lays hold of one, and I laid hold of the prisoner; he ran round a coach; and I took him. I took him then into a shop, and the person said, I saw that fellow with his hand in a gentleman's pocket not half an hour ago; and I think you are bound in justice, for the good of the public, to prosecute him; in consequence of that, we sent to the patrole, and conducted him to the rotation office, from thence he was committed. The prisoner is one of them that I see who got round behind the coach; before ever they got round this coach, I had got them; and they broke from me and ran round the coach. I am sure the prisoner is one of the men that I first saw; for he was-never out of my sight till he broke away from me; and I am quite sure that he is one of the two men that I saw near me when I felt that motion at my pocket; there was no any other man ten paces before or behind, but these two men.

Q. How long had you had that cloak in your pocket? - About half an hour, I had been to conduct a young lady home,

and I put it in my pocket coming home, I came from Argyle-street.

Q. Before you felt that motion had you any occasion to take notice, whether you had your cloak in your pocket? - I had not.

Q. So that it is possible it might have been lost? - It is possible, but I do not believe it.

Prisoner. I was making water the corner of Southampton-buildings, and when he catched hold of me, I said I was very willing to be searched.

Prosecutor. On my oath it is false, so far from that, they were walking side by side, and turning into Southampton-buildings.


I know nothing of the robbery; Mr. Staff called for assistance and I gave it to him; the prisoner at the bar was the first person I saw run from him, and I seized him; I was coming up Holborn towards him.

Prisoner. I am an hard working man, I work up at Marybone, I lodge in Fleet-lane; what this gentleman accuses me of, I know no more about than a child unborn, I told him he was welcome to search me; I am a hard working lad, and been brought up all my life time at sea.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Lord CHIEF BARON.

Reference Number: t17930109-16

138. OWEN RYAN was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of November , ten half guineas, one guinea, and one half crown, the monies of Patrick Deverix , in the dwelling house of James Corbut .


I am a sawyer , I live in Great St. Andrew's-court, St. Giles's , I live in the house of James Corbutt , I lost the money in his house, the first day of November, it was not taken in the day, but in the night, I lost six guineas, and a half crown; there was ten half guineas, and one guinea, it was all in one apartment, just over the kitchen, it was a ground floor, I lodged in the ground floor, I had my money in my pocket; I went to bed about nine o'clock, I am sure it was in my pocket when I went to bed; the prisoner lodged in one bed with me, I felt him rising at his own side of the bed about twelve or one o'clock, he came round the bed to my side, he took the breeches from under my head, I heard him opening a knife with a strong spring, and I was afraid of my life, he did not touch me indeed, I lay still till just the break of day, when I discovered it to the man of the house; the prisoner stayed till break of day; he came into bed to me just after robbing me; I got up first in the morning, and I discovered it to the man of the house, and he told me he would go and get a constable; it was Sunday morning, I could not get any money to get a constable, and he went off before I came back as I had not any money left to give, I did not think a constable would come, I went out to try to get somebody to get a constable, I went out about six o'clock, I stayed a couple of hours, or thereabouts, I suppose.

Q. Have you ever got any of your money again? - I never did, I was looking for him since, and I could not find him till he was taken last Saturday night. I had lodged in this house about five or six months, he lodged there some part of the time; he used to say, when I used to live hard and poorly to save that money, he used to tell me that others would piss it against the wall, he told me that just before he robbed me.


The prosecutor lives at my house, he hath lodged there better than three quarters

of a year, and Ryan lodged there about a quarter of a year to the best of my knowledge, they sleep in a cellar on one bed both of them.

Q. Did any body else lay in the cellar? - There was the old man and Ryan, that is two, and two more, and my wife and two children, all in the same cellar.

Q. Did you hear any noise? - About a fortnight before the 1st of November, I was sitting by the fire, and Ryan was with me, where he expressed the words as these, it is a pity that Old Rogue should eat a bit of dry bread, when he has got a purse of gold in his pocket, I will take his breeches one night, and take his money out, and have a bit of fun with him, says he, we will have a bit of fun out of it; on this Saturday night, Ryan went out about eight to go to pay table, he came in about twelve o'clock, I let him in, and came into bed, then afterwards, I did not fall asleep for a long time; about an hour or an hour and half after, I heard a man getting up, and getting the other side where the other man used to sleep, I thought he was troubled with something, I did not take any notice, about six o'clock in the morning, this same old man, that lost his money bawled out, I jumped out of my bed, and asked him, what was the matter? says he, this man that lay by the side of me, has taken away my money, all that I have in the world, and has had his knife over me all of the time, says he, I was afraid of my life, that he would run me through.

Jury. Was your bed there without a partition? - It was, there were three beds in the room, I jumped out of bed, and says I, what do you bawl for? and the old man went out to get a constable, and as soon as the man was out, Ryan slipped out, and I never set sight of him any more; Ryan went away about a quarter after six, I never saw him till last Saturday, I was ignorant about the law, I did not know whether it would allow me to take hold of the man without a constable.

Prisoner. Did I leave your house at six o'clock? - You did, or a little after.

Prisoner. Saturday night I went to pay table, I was kept till eleven o'clock before my master paid us, I stayed out about an hour longer, and I came home about twelve and one, and went to my bed, I went to my bed, and lay there till about six o'clock in the morning, and then the old man said he was robbed, and he goes and gets a book, and they handed it to me, and I took my oath; I stayed there till eight o'clock, I never left about the place till twelve o'clock, when I went to get my dinner then, the next day I was ordered to Battle-bridge, where I have worked ever since, till such time as he came last Saturday night and took me; and Corbutt's wife said, his breeches were cut by a knife before he went to bed. I have no witnesses.

Jury to Prosecutor. Was the prisoner in the house when you came back again? - He was not.

GUILTY . Death . (Aged 24.)

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

Reference Number: t17930109-17

139 WILLIAM SULLY and JOHN BAILEY were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 29th of December , three printed cotton frocks, value 12 s. a linen handkerchief, value 1 s. the goods of Frances Taylor , spinster .


I am a single woman, I keep a house in Swine's-lane, Highgate , I am a laundress , I lost the things in the indictment off a hedge outside the door; I put them on the hedge Saturday was a week about half after three; the hedge was in a field opposite the door, about five yards or not

so much; I did not see the prisoner take them, I missed them about half an hour after they were taken; I saw them again on the Monday in the forenoon between twelve and one; I saw them at Hatton-garden, at the Police office; they were things I had taken into wash, the frocks were very remarkable, and I had them before, there was no name on them, but I can swear to them by the prints; the linen handkerchief was my own, there was a particular hole in one corner, where it had been burnt; I saw the prisoners before the magistrate, when I saw my things, but I knew nothing of the prisoners.


I am a labourer, I was working in the fields below, spreading of dung, and I saw these two men in about threescore yards of the hedge, where the things were hanging; I saw them come down the hill both running together from the hedge, after that they came down the hill, I wondered what was the matter, they jumped quite both over the hedge, and made their escape as fast as possible.

Q. Did they endeavour to avoid you? - They did, or they would have kept the path; soon afterwards seeing these two men come down the hill, I thought there was something the matter, there came a young man running to me, and called me by my name, and asked me if I saw any thing, I pursued after them, and I gained one of them, William Sully , just before he came to Battle-bridge, the other escaped, I laid hold of his collar and told him, he had been robbing the woman of this property, he said, he had not, I told him, he had or knew who had, says he, if you will not hurt me, I will help you to your property again, I don't know, but I will try, if you will go up along with me to Saffron-hill, and then he said, I will send for people that should help me to it, I had heard it was a place that had got a very bad character, I did not like to go alone by myself; then afterwards he sent for a woman, that is called his wife, she came into the office where he was. When I took hold of him, I took him to the office at Hatton-garden, with that, he asked leave to enquire for his wife, but we could not find her.

Q. Did you ever find any thing by his directions? - No, I did not, one of the runners took the other man Bailey, and the property; the Monday after the runners had taken Bailey, he sware a large oath, and said, I wish you had been at the taking of me, I would have stuck a knife into your bloody entrails, this he said when he was at the lock up room backwards at Hatton-garden.

- EWER sworn.

I am a constable, belonging to the Police-office, Hatton-garden, I am the man that took the other, Bailey; I know no more than taking the property and the man, on Saturday the 29th of December, the day the property was lost, I had an information of the robbery, I went to the apartments of Bailey, I was conducted by a girl that keeps company with him, there I saw a bundle, he owned it was his apartment before the magistrate, that examination was taken in writing, I have got the articles, three frocks and a check apron, I did not see them any where else.


Q. Do you know Bailey's apartments? - I do.

Q. Did you ever see these things in the apartments of Bailey? - Yes, they were in the apartment, but I did not know what they were, the bundle was not opened, the bundle was tied up in this cloth as it is now.

Q. Where are his apartments? - They are in Blue-court, Saffron-hill.

Q. How long had he been there before the bundle was there? - He had

not been there a little better than a week.

Q. Do you know Mr. Ewer the constable? - No.

Q. Did you tell any body whose lodgings they were? - They were John Balley's and mine, he and I took the room together, I had not been with him a fortnight.

Q. Had you any quarrel with Bailey that you told about these things? - The other man was taken coming home, and the other said, where Bailey and I lived, and the other young woman that lived with Sully went down to him, and they came up to me.

Court to Wood. Did you take the things out of the apartment that this young woman has described? - I did, she conducted me up stairs to the room, the woman that came to Sully was in custody with him, and it was by threatening of her, that I found out where they were. (The things produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner Sully. I never saw the property till I saw it at the office Hatton-garden.

Prisoner Bailey. I picked up this bundle in Green-lane, but I did not know woat it was, nor never opened it at all.

Ewer. I found Bailey in the lodgings, and the bed let down, and he concealed under the bed.

Jury to Mills. When you saw the men running down the hill, and jump over the hedge, did you observe them to have any thing in their hands? They had, and it was wrapped up in a blue apron, Bailey had it.

William Sully , GUILTY . (Aged 24.)

John Bailey , GUILTY . (Aged 19.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-18

140. RICHARD PAINE SHARP was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 25th of December , an iron plough share, value 1 l. 5 s. an iron coulter, value 2 s. a bridle, value 2 s. the goods of Joseph Kaye , a pewter plate, value 6 d. and a bridle, value 1 s . the goods of William Baxter .


I am a servant to Mr. Joseph Kaye , he is a gentleman in town, the plough share and coulter was took out of the yard where I live, I am a labouring man , they were taken from the yard; there was an iron plough share and coulter in the yard, the coulter was not taken off the ground, it was left in the barn; the bridle was in another house of Mr. Kaye's; the pewter plate and one bridle was mine, I don't know where it was took from, I know them, I cannot swear who took them, but here is a good man that brought them to me, he found them on the prisoner's premises, he was a lodger, and had a room to himself.


I am also a servant to Mr. Kaye, I am what they call a bailiff of a farm; on the 7th of December Mr. Webb, a blacksmith, came to me and said, Mr. Chine, have you lost any plough irons, I said I had, I ordered the constable to take the man into custody, he did the next morning, he was taken before the justice, and the justice committed him for further examination; by the justice's orders, I went over and searched the house on Saturday evening, he rented two rooms, he had worked for me before; the blacksmith told me they were the rooms that he rented, I found the first thing between the bed and bed mat, a couple of fowls ready picked, I went into the next room, and there I found this bridle and plate of Baxter's, this was in the setting room below; I mean the bed-room up stairs, was where I found the fowls, and I found

many other things there that are not yet owned; the plough share was brought to me before by the constable himself; in my going to the justice he said, master you have lost your bridle, did not you? says he I have got your bridle master. I had made him no promises nor threats; that was my master's bridle; he had a woman along with him; he said to her, do you go and get Mr. Kaye's bridle; she did not bring it to me, so I told her when I see her again at the justice's, that she had not done according to the prisoner's bargain; he told her again to fetch it, and I went with her and we found it under a barrel, she heaved the barrel up on one side and I picked it up from under the barrel, this barrel was just the outside of the back door, just at his sitting room; then I said to her, woman if you know of any thing else that is hid, I will be glad if you will tell me; she told me where a coulter was hid on my master's premises with an intent to take off, but it was not taken. The prisoner at the bar said at the justice's, that neither me nor my master should not be alive at New year's day to prosecute him; he had worked for me about five weeks as a hay maker; I had discharged him on Wednesday, but not on this affair, as I found this out on Saturday.

Prisoner. Mr. Chine you said, I told you where to get the bridle. I did not. - It is true he did.

Prisoner. It is no use my speaking, for his word will go before mine.


I am a blacksmith; the prisoner brought me the plough share and offered to sell it to me for a penny a pound, five weeks ago last Saturday night, he brought it into his room between one and two in the morning, he was a lodger of mine, I lett him an up stairs room and a down stairs, he was to give me 2 s. a week, all the things were found on his premises; I saw two bridles, one was underneath the tub at the back door, the other was up the chimney piece, the plate stood on the shelf in his down stairs room; Mr. Chine took them away from my house.

Mr. Chine. I carried the bridle and the plate myself to the constable's house.

Mr. Webb. I should know them again if I was to see them.

Prisoner. I hope you will take notice of what I am going to say, Mr. Chine said, the constable took them, and the constable says, Mr. Chine took them; as to the blacksmith accusing me of stealing the plough share, it was himself that did it? - All the things were found on his premises.

Court to Webb. How came Mr. Baxter to know that his things were missing? - He searched the room by justice Biddle's order.

Q. What was the apartment you lett to him? - I lett one up stairs room and one down stairs room; these articles were found in his room.

Mr. Chine. The blacksmith came and told me that the man had offered him a plough share to sell for a penny a pound.

Mr. Webb. I thought you meant the bridles? - I did go and tell him of the plough share.


I am a constable; I saw the plough share irons and fetched them away; the bridle was brought to my house afterwards, Mr. Chine brought them and a pewter plate likewise. I know they are the same that are now produced, they are all marked. (A bridle and the plate deposed to by Mr. Baxter; the plate by a flaw and the bridle he had had five years, and the plough share deposed to as the same he had at his house. The other bridle deposed to.)

Court to Chine. How far is the house of the prisoner from the place where these things were taken? - About a mile and a half.

Prisoner. On Saturday night, please your honour, the last Saturday night I was at work there, I had been at the pay table; I went up to Brent to buy a pair of shoes; I was coming home about half past ten, I overtakes my landlord, Richard Webb , and as soon as he heard somebody coming he throws this plough share off his shoulder, and he said, don't say any thing about it and I will pay you for it, and he set off 2 s. for it off the rent; I helped him as much as I could; I was in liquor and could not assist him so well, there was another piece by the side of it, and that he worked up. When we came home to his own house he stowed this plow share into the place called the pantry, and puts some wood on it. On Monday morning I went to work again as usual, on Tuesday I went again as usual, and was taken with the fit of the ague, and have been bad ever since. When I went up to Bow-street Chine paid me the part of the weeks wages that was due to me. I have no witness here.

Court to Constable. How did you get the plough share? - I went to take this man and he produced the plough share out of his room, in another little room by; Webb told me he had put it in that room in the presence of the prisoner.

GUILTY . (Aged 29.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-19

141. ALEXANDER TOBIN and JOHN STANSON were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 31st of December , two dimity petticoats, value 5 s. a pair of dimity pockets, value 18 s. two handkerchiefs, value 1 s. the goods of Elizabeth Cotton ; and two pair of dimity pockets, value 18 s. and four handkerchiefs, value 2 s . the goods of Jane Cotton .


I live at No. 19, Great Russel-street ; I keep the house; I am a mantua maker ; Jane Cotton is my sister; the articles in the indictments were all lost from the yard, they were on a line; I saw them the 31st of December about seven in the evening, and I missed them about nine, it was Monday I saw them in my own house in the patroles, Flint's and Tobin's hands.


I am the sister of the last witness; I know the things were missing, and I saw them when brought into the house, the patrole brought them.


I am a patrole belonging to the parish of St. Giles's; the 31st of December about half past nine I and my partner were coming up Great Russel-street, we were met by a gentleman who informed us that No. 19, had been robbed of some wet linen, we went in pursuit of the linen, we went into a house in New-street, a private house, I found the prisoners and the linen in the rooms, it might then want a quarter to ten, Tobin sat on the bed side close by the fire, the other sat at another seat facing the fire, when I opened the door Tobin threw himself flat on the bed; I told my partner to stand at the door, I had a great suspicion that the things were in that room; I went into the room, and Stanson he had two handkerchiefs and a pair of pockets in his hand, and he immediately attempted to put them under the fire place; I went to him and clapped my hand on his shoulder and stopped him before he got them under the place; I saw no more of Tobin than throwing himself on the bed, and

the rest of the property lay under the bed on the floor that he lay upon; I brought away all I could find at the time; I produce all I brought away; I have put nothing with them.

Mr. Garrow. This room you searched was Stanson's? - So I understand since.

Q. This young man Tobin lived at his father's at another place? - I don't know.


I am a patrole; I and my partner were coming down Russel-street, and we met a gentleman in the street who informed us of this robbery; my partner and I went to three or four different houses, at last we went to the house in New-street, and were informed by the man that keeps the house, we went up stairs, and went into a room, my partner went in before me, Tobin was on the bed, and the other was by the fire, and then my partner goes and stoops under the bed and took out a parcel of wet linen, and gave it to me; I put it under my arm, and then we tied them both together and brought them to the watch-house, we took them to No. 19 first, where they took the linen from, and two ladies came down and said, it was their property; from that we took them to the watch-house; my partner kept the things all the time; I don't know the things, my partner does.

Mr. Garrow. Do you know whose room it was? - The house belongs to one Carrell.


I am a watchman; a little before eleven I went to the house in New-street, I found three handkerchiefs and a pair of pockets in the room, Carrell found them and he gave them to me.


Do you know whose house this is in New-street? - I do not, I only came to attend the ladies.

(The things produced and deposed to.

Prisoner Tobin. I know nothing at all about them.

Prisoner Stanson. On Monday night this young man and me went up stairs together, and the two women that were in the room had gone out, we met a man and woman on the stairs when we went in, we had not been in above five minutes before these two patroles came and took us both, they said, they wanted to look for a man; I asked them if it was either of us; they said, no; I was sitting by the fire and he was laying on the bed at the same time; the room does not belong to me, that man has sworn false as God is true; the room belongs to a woman that is on the town; there is always somebody or other coming into it; I am innocent of the affair.


I am the father of the prisoner John Tobin ; I am a pavior, my son is a pavior and lives at home with me; I live in Crown-street, Soho.

Q. Had he any thing to do with the apartment in New-street? - I don't know; he asked me Monday night what work he must go upon the next morning? I told him and said, that he must go and seek for a labourer to help, accordingly he went and met with a man in Oxford-road; he wanted a man to wheel the barrow and throw stones; this was about seven o'clock; he went and found this man Stanson; he had never laboured for us before; it is usual to seek for strangers for labourers.

Q. With respect to his meeting with Stanson and going to New-street, do you know any thing more

than you have told? - No, I don't; he is going of twenty years of age; he is a good son and an honest lad.

The prisoner Tobin called two more witnesses who gave him a good character.

Alexander Tobin not GUILTY .

John Stanson GUILTY . (Aged 35.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-20

142. AUGUSTINE (a Mulatto ) was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 15th of December , a table clock, value 20 s . the goods of Francis Le Brun .

(An interpreter.)


I live in King-street, Golden-square; Augustine was not a servant of mine, he came from time to time, he went there to eat as I keep an eating-house; I lost a table clock the 15th of December, Saturday; I did not see the prisoner take it, I saw him there an hour after the clock was taken between eight and nine in the morning, it was brought by the pawnbroker; it was kept in my eating parlour; I had not seen Augustine in the house that morning before the clock was taken; I saw him about an hour after, he came into the house of his own accord, he came there generally as he used to do, to eat and drink, and I had no suspicion; it was a pendulum clock that I lost, which winds up every day, a table clock, it remained on the chimney piece; the pawnbroker has the clock.


I am a pawnbroker; I live in Berwick-street, Oxford-road; I know the prisoner perfectly, he has pawned things with me at various times, he pawned the the table clock on Saturday the 15th of December between nine and ten o'clock in the morning; I gave a duplicate, he had 12 s. on it; I asked him how he came by it? he said, it was not his, it was his father and mothers', they give it him to pawn; the owner came about three days after it was pawned; he said, he knew the clock, and I took it to the justice's, and have kept it ever since. (Produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. I went to dine and breakfast with that gentleman, and I met a frenchman whose name is Mitchell, whom I had met several times at the prosecutor's, I met him in Portland-street, he had a clock, he asked me where I was going? I said, I was going to breakfast; the frenchman told me he had no money, and that he had had that clock and he was desirous of pawning it; he told me if you will pawn it for me I will be obliged to you; he came with me to the pawnbroker's and waited at the door; I went into the pawnbroker's and pawned the clock for 12 s. I went out of the pawnbroker's and gave the frenchman the 12 s. in the street; he told me to keep the duplicate as it expressed that when I carried back the 12 s. to the pawnbroker's he would be entitled to it again; I put the ticket into my own pocket, Mitchell told me to do it; I lived eight years at No. 1, Holborn.

Q. Have you taken any pains to find Mitchell? - I don't know where he

lived, I had seen him several times at the place where we eat; I have nobody here, but if the court would send to No. 1, Holborn, the master would give me a character.

Court to Le Brun. Do you know a man of the name of Mitchell? - I cannot recollect any person particularly of that name.

GUILTY . (Aged 26.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-21

143. RICHARD COX was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 29th of December , two bars of iron, value 10 s. the goods of Samuel Richards .


On Saturday the 29th of December I lost my two window bars; I lost them from under the window about a foot from the front, they were the bars that fastened my windows; I went to the watchman on Sunday evening, and gave information to the watchman, and the man at the turnpike; and in the next morning the man was stopped with them.


I stopped the man with the bars, on the 31st of December about half after six Monday morning, the prisoner was the man I stopped; the bars were broke in thirteen pieces. (Produced. There were two fish women going along and he was walking behind them with the bars tied up in a little flannel waistcoat. (Deposed to.)

Prisoner's Counsel. Pray Mr. Richards have you very attentively looked at these bars? - I have.

Q. How long were the different joints before they were broke in pieces? - I never made a particular examination; I believe the front of my shop is one eight foot and the other six.

Q. Do you pretend to know these bars from your long acquaintance with them? - From the acquaintance I have had with them, I should do violence to my conscience was I to say they were not mine; I know them from the general appearance.

Q. Do you think there is more or less than your bars would make? - I cannot particularly say.


I was the constable, I know nothing more about it.

Prisoner. I leave it to my council. I picked them up in the open street; I am a day labouring man; I live at Tottenham, I was born there, and have lived there all my life time.

The prisoner called three witnesses who gave him a very good character.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

Reference Number: t17930109-22

144. ISRAEL JACOBS and WILLIAM CARTER were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 19th of December , three cotton gowns, value 1 l. 1 s. five check linen aprons, value 5 s. three white linen aprons, value 3 s. three cotton stockings, value 1 s. 8 d. the goods of Phillip Shiltman .


I am wife of Phillip Shiltman , I live in Prospect-place, St. George's-fields , in the East, on the 19th of December, I lost three cotton gowns, five check aprons, three white aprons, and three cotton stockings, they were taken out of my yard; they were hanging up to dry, and the lines were cut away; I put them out to dry at three o'clock, they were gone about a quarter after five, they have never been out of my possession since that time; a quarter after five I was in the yard, and caught them, I heard the lines cut down, and I went into the yard; and caught them, and the prisoner Israel Jacobs pretended to throw them over the pails, but I prevented him; I found William Carter there, the other prisoner stood on the other side of the pails. I took hold of his arm, and hallooed out for my husband, and he wanted to get away then, and he got over the pails, but I never lost sight of him, till he was taken in the fields; they both away together, I never took my eye off till they were taken; the things were never taken off the lines, he cut the lines, and were taking them all away, the lines and all, rolled up together in his hand; they are not my own property, I keep a laundry.

Prisoner Jacobs. Please to ask her whether I was not out of her sight when I was taken? - He was not.

Court. How near was Jacobs to Carter? - He was on the other side close to the boards.


On the 19th of December, I heard a cry of murder and thieves for the space of a minute, I ran down to the bottom of my garden, I ran down between some potatoe heaps, and my workshop and saw pit, there is just room for a cart to go by, I ran down and there I met these two lads; I saw the prisoner, and stopped the prisoner Jacobs, and a man Arney stopped the other, they both threatened hard, and said they would cut our bloody livers out; I gave Jacobs into the hand of one of my men, while I went to get a constable, but he said there was no occasion, as they were thieves; when I came back again he slipped out of my man's hand, but we got him before he got ten yards; then we took them down to Shadwell office, and they were both committed to Newgate.


I was coming by the premises at the same time, I heard a cry of stop thief; I ran down towards the workshop, and I caught hold of Carter.

Prisoner Jacobs. I went to ease myself as it was an open place, I heard a great cry of stop thief, this man that pursued, hardly gave me time to button up my breeches.

Prisoner Carter. I went to do my needs, and some men came in and said why did not you get farther, else I will make you, he walked down to the bottom of the yard, and I did not see him any more; and then this lady cries out stop thief.

GUILTY . (Aged 19.)

Imprisoned twelve months and publickly whipped .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

Reference Number: t17930109-23

145. ROBERT MOORE , and JOHN HARRISON , were indicted for making an assault on Joseph Sellwood , in a certain dwelling house, on the 23d of December , and putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person and against his will, a silver watch, value 40 s. a steel watch chain, value 1 d. a silver seal, value 2 s. the goods of the said Joseph Sellwood .


I lived at Pimlico , I kept the public house , the sign of the Goat; when I lost my watch, which was the 23d of December last, it was as nigh twelve o'clock as possible in the night; my watch was in my pocket it was eleven o'clock very nigh when I shut my house up, I fastened my window and door, afterwards some body came and knocked at the door; I went to the door to know who it was, somebody answered it was me; I asked who was me, he said he was a soldier, and had begged leave of his serjeant to get a glass of gin; the night was severe, and I thought he was going on duty, and I thought it might do him good; I opened the door when he came in he did not like a glass of gin, he would have a pint of beer, he went out again presently, and he said don't fasten the door for I am going to fetch a grenadier to have a drop; he went out and I fastened the door, by and by he returned and two more men, and after that, in a very short time this here grenadier came; there was then four in all, two were soldiers, and two in other clothes; after they were all in they had two pots of beer, one first, and afterwards another; the grenadier and these two in coloured clothes talked together about their work, they began then about the grenadier's cap, one of these two in coloured clothes, talked about putting his cap on, they said if they put it on they should pay some beer, then they said they would put it on me, then they made an attempt to put it on me, and I got from them into the bar, they retreated again, and went up towards the fire in the same room; after every thing was still I went up to them, and desired them to go out of the house for it was very late, they said they would go, but they must have another pot of beer; I did not know what to do, I would rather not draw it; however, to keep quietness, I drew it; while they were drinking that, they began about this grenadier's cap, one of them put it on, and put it over my eyes, they shoved it hard on, and also they kept up my arms and worked me here very much indeed, and hustled me much about, I thought surely the blackguards some of you is a sodomite, rubbing me so much about that part, I never thought of my watch then; in a very short time they drank up their beer, and Robert Moore went out of the house first after they had loosened me, I got the cap off myself, afterward John Harrison went out, after that the other two more went out that were in coloured clothes, then I fastened the door again, I did not miss the the watch till they were gone very nigh five minutes, they paid for their beer, the two men in coloured clothes paid for the two pots of beer, they had but two pots, one at a time, they did not insist on my giving them any beer for having the cap on, I went to bed, and did not do any thing till the next morning; when I went

to one Mr. Townsend, and he went to the serjeant of the guards, and this man I saw on duty at the gates, at the queen's guard, Harrison; it might be eight or nine o'clock in the morning, he and I were ordered up to Bow-street about eleven o'clock, I went and stayed some time, but they did not come, and I went away; then another day we went and took Moore out of the ranks at St. James's, I can hardly say what day, I believe it was the day following.

Q. How happened it that you did not go back for them on the first day? - Why, they did not come when I stayed, but I find they did come afterwards.

Q. I want to know why you that had prosecuted this man, went home and and did not go to the guards to know why he was not brought? - I thought they would not come at all, I thought no more.

Q. And the next day, Moore and Harrison were both carried to Bow-street? - Yes, I went with them, I went to St. James's that time, I went with them, I went there because they were going on guard, and there we went to take them; it was Friday I believe that we took them.

Q. What night was it they came to your house? - Sunday night, on Monday, Harrison was carried before the justice.

Q. Now you have been saying that it was the next day after that, that you took them from guard; now you recollect and say, it was Friday? - I am wrong, it was Friday.

Q. From Monday till Friday, what did you do? - I did nothing.

Q. How came that? - Because I was informed they were to be on duty that day by some soldier, I do not know who it was.

Q. Had you known Moore and Harrison before they used the house? - I know them very well by sight, I knew one of their names, Moore, but I did not know the other

Q. Then on Monday, when you was at the guard, did you tell the serjeant that Moore was the other man? - I did.

Q. Why were they not taken? - The serjeant said, he would bring them both up to the office, he told me so, and Mr. Townsend was with me.

Q. Whether they were both brought to the office or not you cannot tell? - They told me so at the office the next day.

Q. How long had you seen your watch before? - I had my watch at the stroke of twelve, and pulled it out to shew them what o'clock it was.

Q. I went to know why you waited till the Friday that they should be on duty, without going again and having them taken up? - I was very ignorant of the matter, I was told by some soldier that I should catch them, and he did not know how I should catch them before.

Q. How long had these men frequented your house before this? - I had not lived in the house but four days, I had seen them at another house that I kept, they knew that I knew them, I dare say, as for Harrison he never laid hold of me at all, because when the other three came about me he was sitting down, and I heard him say don't hurt the old man, and according to his voice, he was where they were before they laid hands on me.

Q. Do you know whether there is any thing given if a man who is not a grenadier puts on a grenadier's cap? - They make it a forfeit among one another, I believe I have heard it said, it is a forfeit, but I never saw it done.

Prisoner Moore. Did you miss the watch as soon as we were gone? - I did.

Q. Why was the reason you did not make a complaint to the officer of the guard? - I did.

Q. Did not you give us a roll and better to look for the other two men? - I did not.

Prisoner Moore. We went up to Bow-street, and Mr. Sellwood was gone, Mr. Sellwood never came to seek after us till Friday, when he came with the constable here, and I was in the ranks in St. James's, he pointed to the constable at me, and said that was one of the men, Mr. Townsend spoke to the colonel of the guard, and I was called out of the ranks, I went into the sutling house to the serjeant, and Harrison was on centry; when he was off centry we all went up to Bow-street, where he said, he did not think we knew any thing about it, but we knew the men that had done it, we were committed down to Tothill-fields, and came up for examination on Tuesday following, Mr. Sellwood said then we were innocent of the affair, and wanted us to be discharged, and Mr. Addington committed us down to Newgate.

Prisoner Harrison. He has been saying it was twelve o'clock when we went away, we were in the guard room by half after eleven; I went in first and had two pints of beer before this man came in, when I came back again, and we had one pot of beer first, and the other after, and we left these men behind us, the men I never saw in my life before; when I heard he had missed his watch in the morning, I went there to Mr. Sellwood, and he said he would give me any thing if I would go and find the two men, I asked him what I had to pay, I had had a pint of beer, and a roll and butter, and he said nothing at all.

Prosecutor. Please you, my lord, Harrison, is as innocent as a baby of robbing me; but I never said so of Moore.

The prisoners called two serjeants to their characters, who said they were honest men and good soldiers; and in the guard room that night by eleven at farthest.

Court to Sellwood. I would wish to know of you, whether Harrison and the two men came in as one company, or whether they came in one after another? - They came in very nigh together, but Moore he came in after, he was the last, they all joined in one company, I understood them all to come in as one company, they never called for beer separate.

Q. Did you consider it as a joke, putting on the cap? - I thought they had done it for that; I resisted it at the first time, they did not get it done.

Q. Whose cap was it? - It was Moore's cap, it was taken off Moore's head before, it was then on the table; it was one of the men in coloured clothes, that ran after me the first time to put it on my head.

Both not GUILTY .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

Reference Number: t17930109-24

146. GEORGE PLATE was indicted, for feloniously stealing on the 15th of December , in the dwelling house of Mary White , three ten pounds bank notes, and one twenty pounds bank note , the property of Mary White .


I am son to Mary White , she lives at No. 4, George-street, Manchester-square , she is a widow lady of fortune; about three weeks ago, Mr. White discovered she had lost bank notes to the value of 170 l. from a desk; she informed me of the loss she had sustained, my mother is not here, I only know that a considerable suspicion fell on the prisoner, on account of his conduct afterwards; we could not trace the number of the notes; in the evening of the next day, a little girl discovered in a prayer book that she took out of the drawers some of the notes, whereby we got 120 l. the lad had given warning previous to the time the robbery was committed; he stayed till the day his time expired; we had strong suspicions for

some time after he left the house; he stayed about seven or eight days after the notes were missed; on Thursday night I went to the office in Malborough-street, and procured a warrant to take him, and we found him at his father's house in bed; he produce the key of his box, which was searched, and in a pair of my breeches pockets, we found two notes, which we suppose are two of the notes that were stolen, but I cannot be certain, as I cannot ascertain the numbers of the notes lost; he gave us the key, he gave it the constable, on being informed there was a warrant against him.


Tried by the second Middlesex jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

Reference Number: t17930109-25

147. GEORGE PLATE was indicted, for feloniously stealing on the 2d of December , a silk waistcoat, value 5 s. a pair of silk breeches, value 4 s. two linen waistcoats, value 6 s. a metal watch, value 20 s. a pair of plated spurs, value 5 s. &c. the goods of Michael White .


This prisoner was a servant of my mother's and left her service about a fortnight ago; he had lived with her six months; there was a suspicion against him, and I got a warrant last Thursday; I had the key of the box of him, it was opened in his presence, in a room inhabited by his father and mother; I found several articles which indeed I had not missed, and did not know they were there, but I accidentally stumbled on a part of my wardrobe; in his box there was a black sattin pair of breeches, a cross barred sattin waistcoat, one cotton waistcoat, and another I believe they call muslinet; there was two coats which belonged to my brother; I had lost my shoe buckles but them I did not find, I did not find my spurs then, but I did afterwards, I have lost six waistcoats in the whole, I only found two.

Q. In what capacity was he at your house? - He waited on us, he did every thing that was to be done.

Q. Did you use to give him your clothes? - I gave him one coat, I never gave him any of these things; finding these things in his box, we carried them to the office in Marlborough-street, and he was committed for trial.

- WALLIN sworn.

I executed the warrant on the prisoner, I found him in bed, and I got this key of the box out of his breeches pocket; I opened the box, and found all the things in the indictment, but the watch, these three waistcoats, a pair of breeches and two coats; when he was fully committed, Mr. Conant told me to go along with the prisoner, to see if I could find the watch, the watch was buried under ground in little Welbeck-street, the corner house of Wimpole-street; I went with the prisoner, he said it was under ground, but it was not, it was up a water trunk, I let the prisoner put his hands up, and he pulled it out, he produced it to me. (The things produced deposed to.) There was three guineas and a half found in his pocket; the notes were found in these black breeches pockets, they are two ten pounds bank notes.

Prisoner. In regard that he says the notes were found in the black breeches pocket, they were not, they were found in a pair of kerseymere breeches pocket; - They were found in the right hand pocket of these black breeches.

Prisoner. The second thing he said that he took the key of my box from my breeches pocket, I took it out of my coat pocket; as to my defence, I am left without counsel or witness, I am left entirely at the mercy of the jury; I have

witnesses to give me a character, but not knowing so suddenly of coming up to this court, I had not time to get them.

( GUILTY . (Aged 16)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

Reference Number: t17930109-26

148. WILLIAM TRENFIELD was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 22d of December , a pair of leather boots, value 10 s. the goods of George Knowles , privately in his shop .


I am a shoemaker in Pall-mall ; on the 22d of December, in the evening, I lost a pair of boots; I served the first regiment of foot guards, by contract, with shoes, they come with notes from their serjeant, and the serjeant pays once a month; this man brought a note for a pair of shoes, and he took this pair of boots away; he brought the note from Serjeant Eddins, in Colonel Perrin's company, in the first regiment of foot guards; he and another man came with him, whether it was he took the boots, or another man I don't know, he was a comrade of his; I believe he was of the same company, but I don't know the man, I don't know who took the boots; it appeared afterwards they went to pawn them; they were taken out of my shop, they hung across a chair, going home to a gentleman; we don't make any thing for sale, they had been worn once, they came back to be stretched in the calf; the men came in the afternoon, and I did not discover they were taken; till they were brought from the pawnbroker's Mrs. Davis's, which was two or three days afterwards, they brought them to my house by one of the constables of Marlborough-street office, to know whether they were my boots, and they were.


On the 22d of December, an old woman brought in these boots to pledge, into my shop, I had a suspicion they were stole; I detained her and them, and sent for a constable, and sent her to the watch-house, and she produced the prisoner at the bar; she said her name was Morrison, and when he came, he asked me how dare I to stop his property, which his uncle had bought him in the country; then I looked at his leg, and I found the boots would not fit by any means, and I told him his uncle had better bought him a pair of shoes that would have fitted him, than a pair of boots that would not, seeing him a common soldier, I was then convinced they were stole.


On the 22d of December, I had been to sell a few rags, I had to go through two rooms, to come into my room, and that man, and two more was in one of the rooms; that young man asked me if I would go and pledge a pair of boots, that his uncle had sent him out of the country, he bid me ask half a guinea, I went to Mrs. Davis's and asked 10 s. she said I had stole them, I told her I had not; I would produce the owner.


I am an extra man, appointed by the police in Malborough street; Mrs. Davis came to me the 22d of December, and told me she had stopped a woman with a pair of boots; I went down and took her to the watch-house keeper, and from there I went with her to No. 6, Lawrence-lane, St. Giles's; she took me to the room where the prisoner at the bar cohabited with a woman, I asked him if he had sent these boos to

pledge, he said he had; I went with him to the shop, Mrs. Davis's, he gave me a good deal of insolent language, and from there I took him down to the watch-house, and he gave account that he got these boots out of Worcestershire, and gave 1 l. 5 s. for them; he mentioned the name of the place in Worcestershire, we all agreed that these boots never could fit him, Mrs. Davis gave charge of the woman, and I gave charge of the man till Monday; when we took him up to Malborough-street; and then he said he bought them in Queen-square; he was committed for a second examination; the serjeant mentioned to the magistrate that very probably they might come from Mr. Knowles, as he had sent him and another to Mr. Knowles for a pair of shoes; I took one of them and asked him if they were his property, and he owned them instantly; on the second examination, when Mr. Knowles came forward to identify the boots, he seemed to say the other man stole them and gave them to him.

Prisoner. The serjeant gave me a note for a pair of shoes, and another man came down with me to get my shoes, and we came out of the shop; I told him I was going to my work, says he, I will go up with you, it was very near nine o'clock; and when we came there he pulls the boots out of his pocket, and asked me if I knew any body would pawn them, when the woman came in, I sent this woman; I did not know he stole them, or where they came from, or any thing about them.

- EDDINS sworn.

I am a serjeant; I have known the prisoner two years and a half; I never knew any thing before of him, that was bad; he was in my company.

GUILTY of stealing but not privately . (Aged 20.)

Imprisoned six months and fined 1 s. Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

Reference Number: t17930109-27

149. WILLIAM JENKS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 2d of January , five yards of printed cotton, value 14 s. the goods of Rachel Dawson .


Rachel Dawson is my sister in law, she lives at No. 29, Edward-street, Portman square ; on the 1st or 2d of this month, I was sitting in a small room behind the shop, Mrs. Dawson was in the shop, and one of the shop women was in the shop, the shop women had been taking the prints out of the window; I heard the shop woman call out there was a thief; it was about seven o'clock in the evening, I immediately came out and ran down the street, and took the prisoner at the bar, with this piece of cotton under his coat; he was walking across the street, and the only person that was near, and the most suspicious person; I followed him, and took him; he struggled very much to get loose, I called out for assistance, he begged me to let him go, and told me that a guinea or two would be no object to him; I had then taken the piece of cotton from him, and had hold of him with the other hand, so I immediately took him back into the shop and I asked the shop woman if that was the man, and she said it was; I took him to the watch-house, and in his possession was found a knife opened. Mrs. Dawson keeps a linen draper's shop, and sells ready made linen. (Produced.)

- sworn.

I know it to be Mrs. Dawson's property, by two figures, 5 and a 1/4; I marked it about the 24th of October, when we took stock; I had seen it a day or two before, I cannot exactly say which.

Prisoner. I was coming from Paddington last Tuesday week; I had been to carry some work, and coming down Edward-street, I saw a man, that this

gentlewoman spoke to, and I saw him coming from the door; as I came by I saw this parcel and kicked it before me with my foot, I picked it up and went to a light to look at it, and was walking away in a very peaceable manner, and this gentleman came and took hold of me; I told him if it was his property, I am very willing to go to his shop, when I saw what it was, I put it under my coat; please you my lord, I think a thief always runs away when he steals things, I was walking very seriously away.

GUILTY . (Aged 20.)

Imprisoned six months and fined 1 s.

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

Reference Number: t17930109-28

150. MARY YARRELL was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 24th of December , a silk cloak, value 30 s; a diaper table cloth, value 1 s. the goods of Elizabeth Hulme , spinster .


I am a single woman; I lost a silk cloak and a diaper table-cloth from No. 6, St. Mary At Hill . I am a mantua-maker , I am a lodger; I live by myself; they were taken out of my sleeping room, three pair of stairs; I took the clothes up on Monday the 24th of December about one o'clock. I did not see the prisoner take them; she was coming down stairs with them, and her foot slipped, and I went out to see what it was, and it was the prisoner; I was in the one pair of stairs room, she coming down the two pair of stairs, fell against the one pair of stairs door; I opened the door and found her there. I sent for a constable and he examined her and found the cloak on her; she had just recovered her fall when I opened the door and was going down stairs; one John Bird was with me, and he stopped her. I saw her examined by the constable, Mr. Wheeler; a silk cloak and a diaper table cloth was taken from under her cloak; I took the things, and have kept them ever since; I delivered them to the constable to day. (Produced and deposed to.)

JOHN BIRD sworn.

I am a fan piercer; I have a two pair of stairs room in that house; I was in the one pair of stairs at the time; hearing somebody on the stairs, I stopped her; she had got about half way down at the time I saw her, the table cloth she gave up, and the cloak was taken from her.


I am a constable, I was sent for, and I took the new cloak from the prisoner, I have brought this cloak, and this table cloth, from the prosecutor's house to day; they are the same she gave to me.

Prisoner. I have nothing to say.

GUILTY . (Aged 41.)

Imprisoned one month and fined 1 s.

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-29

151. JOHN SHARP and SARAH WILSON were indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling house of William Clarke , about the hour of five in the afternoon, on the 14th of December , no person being therein, and feloniously stealing therein, four linen sheets, value 2 l. three woollen blankets, value 1 l. 10 s. a muslin handkerchief, value 2 s. a pair of womens leather gloves, value 1 s. a man's flannel waistcoat, value 1 s. a pair of silk and worsted stockings, value 2 s. a

cotton handkerchief, value 6 d. &c. the goods of the said William Clarke .

A SECOND COUNT for burglariously breaking and entering the said dwelling house, about the hour of seven in the night, on the same day, and burglariously stealing the goods before mentioned.


I lived at the time I was robbed in Gibraltar-row, Bethnal-green Parish ; I am a housekeeper ; I have a wife; I have a house to myself; I lost my goods the 14th of December, I was out, I went out about eleven or twelve o'clock, as nigh as I can recollect, I left my wife in the house, I came home at seven o'clock or thereabouts, I came home before my wife, my wife came home afterwards, I found my door a jar, and the bolt thrown out to prevent the spring lock catching; I went in and observed the bed stripped of all the bed clothes; the house consists of two lower rooms, and one upper room; the bed was in the lower room; I found the bed clothes gone, and the pillows, two pair of sheets was gone, three woollen blankets, and a counterpane; I missed two green close bodied coats, two shirts, and two waistcoats, one a flannel waistcoat, and the other a cloth one, two pair of stockings, and some things of my wife's; I missed nothing above stairs, all was on the ground floor; when I went in, I found a halfpenny candle on the floor, that had been lighted, it was not my candle, it was brought there by other people, and some poison was thrown about the room, with an intent to poison the dogs, it was not there when I went out, nor when my wife went out; I lived there about six weeks; I know nothing of the prisoners, only the property that the officers detained them with belong to me.


I went out about five o'clock, it was almost dark, I left the window bolted, and the door double locked, the window has outside shutters, which bolt within, every thing was safe when I went out, I returned about seven o'clock, my husband came home before me; I lost a black silk cloak, a linen gown, a white muslin petticoat, a double muslin handkerchief, two ribbon sashes, one pair of gloves, and a book hussiff; they were taken out of the back room below.

Q. Did you look to see how the people had got in? - They came in at a back window that is on the stair case.

Q. What appearance was there that any body had got in there? - One pane of glass was broke, and they put their hand in and took out the staple, and that window was open when I came home, the window is almost one story from the ground, there is a wash-house underneath, and a water-butt, so they got on the water-butt, and then on the wash-house.

Q. Did you look to see whether there was any appearance of feet? - I did not.

Court to Mr. Clarke. Did you see how the people had got in? - There was the marks of somebody's feet on the water-butt; they had broken some of the laths of the railing which parts one yard from the other, the water-butt stands in the next yard close against the wall, from whence they got up to the wash-house apparently, and broke the pane of glass, and did the business, the wash-house being low.

Q. How did they get the double lock open? - They forced the screws out, one screw was forced out into the middle of the room.


I am a constable belonging to Whitechapel office, I produce some articles which I found, an hussiff, a blue sash ribbon, and two old shirts, a green corded waistcoat, and an handkerchief; I was out with the patrole, I met the two prisoners at the bar, the 14th of December, a little after eight, in a place called Osborn-street, Whitechapel, it is in the direct road

from Gibraltar-row; I found this bundle in the woman's possession, she had it in her lap, they were coming towards our office, which is towards the church; these things are a bundle which the woman had, I stopped her, and immediately the prisoner Sharp said, these here things belong to me Mr. Bare, I was going to take them from her; I stopped her from suspicion, I had not heard of this having happened; then I took them both down to the justice's, and I asked them what the contents of the bundle was? he said, there was two shirts and the waistcoat, and the handkerchief in which they were tied in belonged to him; then I took and examined the bundle prior to bringing him in before the magistrate, and I seeing this hussiff in it grounded my suspicions, that they were not his; I told the justice to ask him whether there is any thing else in the bundle, he said no, there is not, then I charged him on suspicion of stealing these things, and they were committed for examination to Tuesday; this was late on Friday night; on Sunday morning I sent an advertisement, and put it into the paper, and the prosecutors came and claimed the things. (The things deposed to.)

Prisoner Sharp. Mr. Bare stopped the woman as I was going home, I asked him what he was a going to do with the woman, he said, I was a party concerned, and he took me to the magistrate, I did not claim the things; I live in Church-street, Whitechapel, I work on the Keys at Billingsgate.

Prisoner Wilson. I was going home that same time, and I met this young man, and he asked me to carry this bundle home for him, and I said yes, I don't know the reason why he asked me to carry it; I live in Cable-street, near Wellclose-square, I have nobody to speak for me, the person I was to get is very ill.

John Sharp , GUILTY on the second Count . Death . (Aged 56.)

Sarah Wilson , Not GUILTY .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

Reference Number: t17930109-30

152. LAVENDER WALL was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 6th of January, a pewter quart pot, value 1 s. 2 d. the goods of Martha Berwick , and

MATTHEW CROCKER was indicted for feloniously receiving, on the same day, the said goods knowing it to be stolen .


I keep the Golden Hind , Little Moorfields ; I lost a great many quart pots, the constable brought this pot to me, and I know it is mine, he brought it to me Sunday the 6th of January, my name was on it, and the name of my house; I have kept that house nine months; I bought these three months ago, I bought a great many then, and one dozen of these sort of pots, that this constable brought me.

Q. Can you tell us for certain whether you missed one of these pots? - I cannot, I missed a great many, but I cannot say out of that same dozen, I had never sold any of those pots.


I am street keeper and patrole of Houndsditch; on Sunday evening the 6th of January, between six and seven I saw the prisoner Wall coming up the street, and I saw him turn round Gravel-lane, I observed he had got something under his waistcoat; this might be a quarter of a mile from the prosecutrix's, I stopped him and asked him what he had got? he said, he had got a quart pot, it was underneath his jacket, he told me his mother gave it him; with that I asked him where he was going to take it, he said, he was going to take it into Petticoat-lane to sell it, I let him go, and he took it to Mr. Crocker's house, he told me what house he was going to; I know the prisoner at the bar, because he is a ward constable, he keeps an old iron shop; the boy went in and sold the pot, the boy was in my custody when he sold it, I stood at the door, he sold it for 6 d. I did not see him sell it, because there was a bit of a screen; the boy came

to the threshold of the door, and I went in, and asked Mr. Crocker what he had done with the pot that the boy brought in, and he was very much alarmed with that, he was sitting near the fire, and between him and the fire place he put his hand round, and gave me the pot, the pot was between him and the fire place, in the same state it is now in, not melted or any thing; I told him he ought to be ashamed of himself; the boy told me he gave him 6 d. in his presence, and there was a woman there took the 6 d. from him; I don't know what the value of the pot may be.

Q. This 6 d. may not be then very much below the mark for an old pot? - I don't know.

Prisoner Crocker. I wish to ask him whether he did not keep the boy at the Nag's Head, in Houndsditch, and offered him money to tell him where he was going with the pot? - I offered no money, the boy told me voluntarily; I knew very well it was a suspicious character where he was a going to.

Q. Pray did the boy tell you he was going to sell the quart pot at one Crocker's? - He did not say he was going to one Crocker's first, but to one Freer's to the best of my knowledge, but I knew the house, and I knew it was Crocker's; I know every house in the ward; I told the boy to go where he was going to sell it.

Court. Did you take him into the Nag's Head? - I did.

Q. How long did you detain him there? - Not above half a minute.

Prisoner Crocker. Did not you take him to another house? - I did to get Box, another officer.

Q. Was the constable in bed or up? - I was not up stairs.

Q. Did not you detain him till Box got up, and then you all came together? - The boy went up first and I followed him.

Q. How came you to take the pain that he should go with you then and not to bring him here now? - Because the alderman did not think it necessary, and besides, my Lord, there are back doors, and that was the reason; Petticoat-lane is not a very agreeable place; he was to have been sworn in the next day as ward constable, he is not sworn in now; I have kept the pot ever since. (Produced and deposed to.)

Court to Prosecutrix. What is that pot worth? - We give 1 l. 2 s. a dozen, the maker said it was worth 1 s. 2 d.

Prisoner Wall. I was playing in Little Moorfields, and I saw that pot stand by in the street among more pots in a string, the pots were taken away and this pot was left, and this man when I went to sell some old iron bars, said if I could get any quart pots, or any thing of that sort, he would buy it of me.

Prisoner Crocker. I have no interest in the shop, nor did I buy it, or pay for it, I have another employ to get my living.

Court to Tipper. Did you examine the boy, and see that he had the sixpence? - The woman that is Mr. Croker's servant I believe, took the 6 d. from the boy as soon as he came in the second time.

Q. I want to know whether you got that 6 d. of the boy? - I did not; while I went back to Crocker, the woman stopped the boy, and took the 6 d. out of his hand, the boy was in the shop all the while I went to Crocker, I did not see her do it, only what the boy told me; I would have apprehended the woman, but only he begged and prayed of me not to do it, and I thought it was enough to take him.

Prisoner Crocker. I had witnesses here this morning, but I was told the indictment was not found.

Wall's mother was called, and she said, he lived at home, worked in the

cotton way, and always had been a good boy.

Both Not GUILTY .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-31

153. JOHN CONDRY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 15th of December , three callico shawls, value 9 s. the goods of William Harvey , privately in his shop .


I am a linen draper at St. Botolph Aldgate ; I lost three callico shawls, on the afternoon of the 15th of December, between the hours of two and four; the prisoner came into my shop, we having several customers at the time; he was there some time, before any person attended him, there might be four or five people in the shop, besides our own people; I saw him, I did not know whether he might not have come in with some one that was in the shop, at last he asked to see some silk handkerchiefs which I shewed him; he had a very good blue coat on at that time, I shewed him some handkerchiefs, which I asked him 4 s. 6 d. a piece for, he offered me 2 s. 6 d. I told him I thought he did not want to buy; he turned from the counter, to go to the door, and I followed him; as he was on the step of the door, I observed his hand in his pocket, as if pushing something in his pocket; I took hold of his arm and I said, my lad have you got something there, he replied yes, and produced one of my shawls out of his pocket; I took him back into the shop, and sent for a constable, when the constable came, he took him out of the shop door, before he thought to search him, and he brought him in again; on searching him, he found two more callico shawls in his pocket; I saw them taken out by the constable; ther first shawl has the private mark of our shop upon it Y, and a stroke, and then an R; the other two shawls had not that mark on them, but we have the corresponding patterns, which were on the wrapper, which was on the counter at that time; I did not see the prisoner near the wrapper at any time; we cannot tell whether we missed any of these things; but one that was taken out of his pocket, was the only one we had of the pattern.

- CHILD sworn.

I was the constable that was sent for, I examined the prisoner, and found two shawls in his left hand pocket; I have had them in my possession ever since. (Produced and deposed to.)

Court to Mr. Harvey. How many servants might be in the shop besides yourself? - One.

Q. Had you any suspicion at the time? - Not till I saw him going out.

Q. Is the servant that is in the shop here? - He is not.

Q. Is 9 s. what you gave for these shawls? - It is rather under what I gave for them.

Prisoner. I was not above a week in town, I came from America, I asked for an handkerchief of about 2 s. 6 d. and he desired me to wait, at last he shewed me one for 4 s. 6 d. and I told him I would give him 2 s. 6 d. I was coming out and I found a bundle just at the door, I thought it was the two womens that went out before me, I picked it up, and put it in my pocket, and this gentleman called me back, and sent for a constable, I was looking out for a vessel to go home to my people; I belong to the Triumph of Cork.

GUILTY of stealing privately to the value of 3 s. (Aged 13.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-32

154. COVENTRY HARBIDGE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 21st of December , two Stafford Bank promissory notes, value 5 l. 5 s. each, two ditto of Wolverhampton Bank, value 5 l. 5 s. each, two ditto of Birmingham Bank, value 5 l. 5 s. each, and a Stafford Bank note, value 10 l. the said several notes being the property of Thomas Otely .

(The Case opened by Mr. Garrow.)


I was nineteen last October, I am a japanner ; I lived in Mary-Ann-street, Birmingham, when I first became acquainted with the prisoner at the bar; I got acquainted with him at a wake at Deritend; we went to play at ball after dinner, about a fortnight after I left Birmingham; the second time I saw him, he asked me if I had not a legacy of 400 l. left me? we were then going along the street, this was about two days after we met the first time, we met at one Mr. Ratcliff's in Birmingham; I told him yes; he said it was a very pretty thing, and about a fortnight after I came to London, the prisoner went up to London and took his wife with him, and came down again, and sent to my father one Sunday morning; I was in bed, this was about a fortnight after I first saw him; I went to him, to the sign of the Ring of Bells in Birmingham; he asked me to go to London with him, he said, I could do better in London than what I could there; I told him I did not chuse to go to London, I could get myself two guineas a week, and I would rather stop where I was; he said, I could do better in London, and he would pay my passage up, so accordingly at last I agreed to come up with him, we came, and he went and took a house at Kensington; he asked me to do him some work; he said he would buy some trays if I would work them, I told him I should go and work for Mr. Strickland; he bought one tea tray first, and I japanned it, and he took it out, and then he bought two, and I japanned them, and then he bought double the quantity; I japanning, and he selling; he told me he would make me amends after Christmas; when Christmas was coming he asked me to go down to Birmingham; this was about a fortnight before Christmas, to receive this money; he said he had a legacy also to receive at Coventry, and he would go with me to receive my legacy; we went, and when we came to Coventry, he left me about half an hour; he had previous to our going, wrote a letter for me to copy to my father, to know when the money was to be received. My father sent me word up that he would send me word, when he had notice to go to receive it; my father's answer returned before I left London; when I got to Coventry he left me about half an hour, he said he was going to speak to one Mr. Wilmer, about his 200 l. legacy, when he came back he said Mr. Wilmer was not certain whether it was due to him or not, he should consult his attorney; we went from there to Litchfield, and stopped there one night, and then we got to Birmingham we went to the Saracen's Head; he slept there, and sent me to my father to ask about the legacy, and not to tell him that he was in town; my father knew him, but my father did not know he was come to London with me for certain; I went to my father and I slept there all night; I asked him, if he knew when the money was to be received, he told me the next Friday, then I came to the prisoner, at the Saracen's Head, he told me not to stop at Birmingham, says he, we will go to Litchfield; we went to Litchfield and stopped till Thursday; he said he did not like for any body to know that he was down there; I did not enquire the reason;

I heard from the prisoner's representation, there had been a quarrel, between the prisoner and some people at Birmingham, I knew not that myself; on Thursday we returned then to Wolverhampton, where the legacy was to be received, and I met my father at Wolverhampton, and we received the 100 l. on Friday; we put up at the sign of the Bell, at Wolverhampton, and my father was appointed to meet me at the Angel, the prisoner gave him that direction; I met my father in the street just by the inn, and my father told me the money was to be received a fortnight after that Friday of the executor, for he had not got all the money in; the prisoner sent, he wanted to see my father, I brought my father to him, at his inn, at the Bell; he said to my father it would be useless my staying any longer on expence, that he was going to London, and I should go with him; and wanted him to ask the executor to let me have the money before the others; my father and the prisoner went to the executor, and the prisoner asked the executor to let me have the money, the executor took him for an attorney; the prisoner told me so, that the executor thought he was an attorney, he at first desired to have my whole 400 l. then he asked to let me have 200 l. and then he asked to let me have an 100 l. we got that, my father gave him a note of indemnity, it was paid in 18 l. cash, and the rest in country Bank notes; one of 10 l. and the rest five guinea notes, they were of Birmingham, and Wolverhampton, and Stafford Bank; him and my father, and me, we then went down to this Bell inn, and the prisoner went out to get a sixpenny stamp for me to give my father a receipt for the 100 l. and he wrote a pattern for me to write a receipt upon; I copied that, and my father gave me the money, and my father came with me as far as Bilson, about three miles from Wolverhampton; the prisoner told my father, that he was going to Birmingham, and he would take my father home to Birmingham; my father said he would go as far as Westbury, and there he would sleep; the prisoner told my father he was going strait down to Birmingham, my father expected to see him the next day at Birmingham, at his house; but instead of his going strait there, the prisoner drove off towards Litchfield, and we slept at Litchfield that night, he told me he would go to Birmingham then, but instead of that he drove off to London; in the road he stopped at Coventry, and was gone about half an hour, he said he went to Mr. Wilmer, and said that Mr. Wilmer said that the money was come due, and he could pay him some time in February, we arrived in London about the 19th of December; the next day I took the horse to the Spotted Dog in the Strand, I left it there, I did not go home that night, me and my two fellow apprentices went to the play; the next morning I went to see my uncle, and this prisoner was at my uncle's; my uncle lives in Cloth Fair; the prisoner called me out, and asked me to lend him 30 l. and said he would pay on Saturday, and he gave me a note for it, I have got that note here. (Produced.) I told him I should go out of town to Birmingham on Friday, he said I might as well go back to his house, and stop till I went out of town, it would be expensive to stop in town; I went back to his house; this was Thursday evening; on Friday morning, he says to me Tom, give me those notes; and I will go over to Mr. Stenson's, and get them cashed for you, you will rip them or lose them, or some mischief or another with them. Mr. Stenson lived over the way facing the prisoner's house, he is a mercer, I gave him the notes; six five guineas and two 10 l. notes, all of country Banks; they were those I received in the country, of whatparticular Banks, each were I cannot tell I delivered them to him, to get them cashed.

Q. Did you expect he would give you cash, I did; I parted with them to receive the cash; he brought me back the cash for a 10 l. about a quarter of an hour after, he said Mr. Stenson had got no more cash, this was about nine or ten on Friday morning, he said he would cash the remainder in town; I went with him to town, because I was going to dine with my uncle about one o'clock in the afternoon; I saw him again about nine o'clock at night, at his house at Kensington; I asked him for my notes, he says what notes? I never had any notes of you, nor nothing do I owe you, and nothing will I pay you; we quarrelled that night; on Saturday morning we got up and breakfasted, I did not speak to him then, but I went and spoke to him before he went out; he went out, and I went into the yard, I heard him say he was going to a neighbour's house for whom he had a tea urn to japan, I stopped in the house about half an hour, waiting for him to come in, he did not come in, I went to this neighbour's house and asked for such a person as he was not there; I came to London to my uncle; I heard of him the Tuesday night afterwards Christmas night; he was advertised in the paper.

Q. Did you receive any letter after he left Kensington? - One Mr. Charters did make an appointment, at a particular place for the purpose of receiving the money.

(The letter read by the Clerk.)

Q. Did you attend at that place? - I did.

Q. Who is Mr. Charters? - He lives in the same house with my uncle. I went at eight o'clock that morning according to the appointment of the letter, and a broker's cart was at the door, he had sold all his goods; I did not see him till the Saturday following I believe; at the time I gave him these notes, I gave them him for no other purpose than for him to get them changed.

Mr. Knowyles. It is three quarters of a year ago since you first became acquainted with this man? - Rather better.

Q. I think you told us that in about two or three days after you became acquainted with him, you went to London with him? - About a week.

Q. When you went to London you worked for him immediately almost? - For a week or so.

Q. You continued to work for him to the time you went to receive this legacy? - Yes.

Q. You cannot be mistaken as to the time, not materially? - No.

Q. Therefore of course, if you have said it was not three months since you was first acquainted with this man, that cannot be right? - It was rather better than three quarters of a year I believe; it is more than three months, but I cannot be sure to the time.

Q. How long was it after you first became acquainted with him, that you first worked for him in London? - Some where about three weeks, I am not positive to the time, it may be a month.

Q. You have never represented it any otherwise? - Never have.

Q. Therefore you could not say it was only three months? - I don't mean from this time, it may be more than three months from this time I left Kensington, that I was acquainted with him.

Q. Therefore it could be about three months ago you first began to work with him? - It was what they call Deritend wake, that I first saw him.

Court. Do you know what month Deritend wake is in? - I think it is a week before Michaelmas, we were in London a week before he took this house at Kensington, and there was a quarter's rent due at Christmas.

Mr. Knowlys. How do you know there was only a quarter's rent due at Christmas? - He had been in the house only a quarter.

Q. You went to Birmingham together? - We did.

Q. The prisoner was desirous that, your father should not know he was there, he expressed that desire? - He did.

Q. But at Litchfield he went to your father? - No, sir, it was at Wolverhamton, he told me to bring my father to him.

Q. He desired you to bring your father to him at Wolverhampton, then your father knew that you had journeyed together? - No.

Q. Your father and he went to this executor's? - We did.

Q. What was his name? - His name is Bird.

Q. Is he here now? - He is not.

Q. Did you desire him to come here? - No.

Q. Can you tell us what number of notes he paid you? - Eight five guinea notes, and four 10 l. notes, and the remainder in cash.

Q. Did your father see them paid to you? - My father received them of the executor, and I received them of my father.

Q. Is your father here? - He is not.

Q. Therefore we must take it all from you, for there is no other person here that was present at the time.

Q. Your father knows of this prosecution? - Yes.

Q. What time did you set out from London when you went to Wolverhampton? - The 18th or 19th of December.

Q. You say you worked for Mr. Strickland? - No, I did not, I worked for Mr. Strickland about half a year ago.

Q. Did you go to the play? - I did.

Q. Did you carry these notes about you? - No, I left them at a person's house who is a witness.

Q. Did you ever say that you lost something there? - No, never.

Q. You left Mr. Strickland with his approbation I take it for granted? - No, I did not.

Q. Did he know of your leaving him? - He did not, I left him because he would not give me my price for my work; when I first went to work for him, he said, every one in the shop allowed him 4 s. in the pound, and he had the articles drawn up for that purpose, and I found he had cheated me, and he had deceived me, for there was not above two or three in the shop that gave him that.

Q. Did you ever hear of the nature of the complaint Mr. Strickland had against you? - I heard a complaint, he sent a letter down to Birmingham, he sent word that I had stole the patterns, but it was patterns that my father had sent me up, and I took them down with me again.

Q. Did you ever hear of a constable having a warrant against you at Birminging? - I did not.

Q. Recollect Mr. Strickland is here, and I shall call him. Do you know what the notes were that you gave the prisoner to change? - I don't know what particular sort they were, there were six five guineas, and two ten pound notes.

Q. You lent this man 30 l.? - I did.

Q. When? - On Thursday the 20th of December.

Q. When was it you lost the notes? - I did not lose the notes, I gave the notes for him to get cash for them.

Court. In what manner did you advance him the 30 l. - I gave him two ten pound notes, and two five guinea notes, 30 l. 10 s.

Mr. Knowlys. On Saturday the money not being paid you desired Mr. Chater to apply to him? - I did.

Q. That was all then you desired Mr. Chater to do? - I told my uncle and Mr. Chater, all about this business of the other notes, and Mr. Chater advised me to ask him for the 30 l. first.

Q. Do you know Mr. Benson. - Yes.

Q. Have you ever had any conversation with Mr. Benson on the subject of the riots at Birmingham? - No.

Q You never represented any thing that you have done there? - No, I have never done any harm there.

Q. You never was engaged with the prisoner in any partnership in this business? - No.

Mr. Garrow. Did the prisoner ever pretend there was any partnership till after he was in custody? - No, not till after he was in custody, he told me he would satisfy me after Christmas.

Mr. Knowlys. You never found any of these notes? - No, not since he has had them.


I had an order from the magistrate to search the prisoner, I went to him, and searched him, but found nothing on him, his words were that he never had any notes, except what he gave him the 30 l. for.


I am uncle to this young man.

Q. Did you ever hear the prisoner say any thing about these notes? - No.

Q. Did you ever hear your nephew say any thing to him about them? - Never.

Q. Was you present at Bow-street? - I was, the prisoner there by his counsel.

Q. Did you hear the prisoner himself say any thing? - I did not.

Court. Was there any conversation at Bow-street between your nephew and the prisoner? - No.

Prisoner. I leave it to my counsel.


I live in St. John's-street, I am a coach-maker and japanner, I employ from sixty to eighty men.

Q. Was the young Otely at any time in your service? - He was about five months with me.

Q. Was he a weekly servant or how? - When he first applied to our manufactory he was in a deplorable situation, he came as a journeyman for the first, second, or three weeks, after which time he wished to be articled for three years, it was his own desire, he behaved in a very base manner indeed.

Q. Is he such a lad that you would believe on his oath? - I would not.

Q. Did he leave your service or did you turn him away? - He left our service without our knowledge, him and another young fellow stole several patterns which was a material consequence to our manufactory.

Q. Did you take any means to find out this young Otely? - I applied to know if any one had seen Otely cut them patterns, I had a warrant against him, advertised him in the Birmingham papers, I did not succeed in finding him out till about a month ago, I overtook him in St. John's-street.

Mr. Garrow. It is very possible you can help us to the date when you applied to get this warrant? - No I cannot.

Q. Then I can help you to it very soon; on your oath, was it not on the very day the prisoner was under examination? - It was not; there was two warrants, one to apprehend him in Birmingham, that was some time about May or June.

Q. Before whom did you make that information? - Before justice Clarke.

Q. There was another warrant as a runaway apprentice, the day the prisoner was examined? - There was.

Q. You had forgot the charge of felony then - The young fellow that was in the office is ill in Birmingham infirmary.

Q. Who invited you to make that charge that day? - No body invited me but what is just.

Q. Then just or unjust who invited you to Bow-street? - No body.

Q. Did not the prisoner send for you to come there and make the charge? - The prisoner sent for me.

Q. Don't repeat the question, answer it. - Give me time to recollect myself; the prisoner acquainted me that he was in custody, on the charge of Otely, and that if I wanted an opportunity of making him my prisoner, then was my time.

Q. No body invites me but what is just; the prisoner did tell me that he was in custody, on a charge of Otely, and that if I wanted an opportunity of making him my prisoner, then was my time. Mr. Strickland, when was it you had that invitation to come and do what is just, perhaps you have got the letter in your pocket that he sent to you? - No, I have not, he sent a verbal message.

Q. By whom was it sent? - I don't know to my knowledge.

Q. Will you swear you have not seen him to day? - I will.

Q. What might be the message? - That Mr. Harbidge was a prisoner, and that I wanted an opportunity of finding Otely, I might meet him there on his examination.

Q. Did you produce the warrant at Bow-street, you had taken out before? - No, it is in the country.

Q. On your oath, did you even hint at it? - I did to the clerk, I wanted a warrant for both felony and as a run-away apprentice, but I could not bring the young man that see him put the patterns in his handkerchief.

Q. And so he refused the warrant; do you know the clerk's name? - I do not.

Q. How long have you been acquainted with the prisoner? - I believe he has been at different times at our manufactory for three, four or five months, I don't know what way of life he was in.

Q. Did he ever sell you any goods? - No.

Q. What is the reason on which you say you would not believe this young man on his oath? - Upon account of his misconduct in our manufactory, his conduct was so base, damning and blasting his eyes and limbs, and instead of attending to his business six days, he used to attend to it three; and many other things, his behaviour in every part whatever was bad.

Q. Perhaps one might help you, perhaps he might represent to you, that you ought to allow him 4 s. in the pound more. What was the money that was stipulated? - He was paid on common prices.

Q. Have you the articles there? - I have.

Q. Produce them; was that twenty per cent. the usual article in your manufactory? - It was.

Q. Will you venture to swear that five made you an allowance of twenty per cent. in December 1791? - I think I could say ten did.

Q. Will you swear that you believe five out of sixty made you that allowance? - I will swear nothing but what is fact; there is not above twenty in this line.

Q. Will you swear that you believe that out of the twenty there were five that allowed you twenty per cent? - I think I could swear there were ten.

Q. Did not the young man make that representation as I have before stated? - He cheated besides, he borrowed money and never paid.

Q. Of whom? - Of me.

Q. What more than the twenty per cent.

Mr. Knowlys. The reason that you made no complaint of felony against him

was because a material witness was ill in Birmingham? - He was, or I would have sent for him up.


I am foreman to Mr. Edward Strickland , Otely was under articles to him for three years, he was there five or six months, he behaved himself very well for three weeks or a month, but after that he behaved in a most ridiculous manner, and corrupting the boys in bad language.

Q. Did he keep to his hours? - No.

Q. Would you believe him on his oath? - I would not believe him in any shape, I never saw him steady in my life.

Q. Any other reason? - I believe he was concerned in taking a great many patterns, I know a great many patterns were missing, I missed them myself, I am the person that takes care of them.

Q. Pray did he ever say any thing to you about the riots at Birmingham? - He told me he was concerned in pushing out the pulpit in the old Meeting house at Birmingham, he used to go on in that strange manner; I assisted in pushing out the pulpit at the old Meeting house, he used to swear Church and King.


I live in Piccadilly; I am a cutler and hardwareman, I have known Harbidge from the beginning of November last, I really cannot say any thing of his character, he has brought goods to my shop.


I have known him about four or five months, I have not known him enough to be able to give him a character, he has bought goods of me.

Mr. Garrow to Sockett. How long have you known this young fellow your nephew? - About three years, I have not had an opportunity of forming a character of him.

GUILTY . (Aged 43.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

Reference Number: t17930109-33

155. WILLIAM HUDSON was indicted for feloniously stealing on the second of January , five cotton night caps, value 5 s. two pair of cotton stockings, value 1 s. two linen waistcoats, value 2 s. a pair of cotton drawers, value 1 s. the goods of William Anderson , Esq .

- sworn.

I am a servant to Mr. Anderson, these things were taken from the garden, I did not see the prisoner take them, they were missing the third of January, last Thursday, I saw them there last on wednesday, and I missed them next morning about eleven o'clock, I saw them since in the patrole's hands, John Scandal .


I am a patrole, I produce the linen, I got them from one Mr. Birk's, Dyott-street, St. Giles's, the prisoner at the bar was there; as I was coming a-cross the end of Monmouth-street, I met a woman at the corner of Dyott-street, who gave me an information of the prisoner at the bar, accordingly I went into Mr. Birk's, and the prisoner was in bed, Birk told me he believed there was a thief in the house, I desired Birk to shew me a light, and to shew me where the thief was, I went up to him and desired him to get up, and he did, Mr. Birk had the bundle, and he demanded the bundle, the things were all wet and frozen, Birk keeps a

lodging house; he came down stairs when he was dressed, he had left the bundle in the care of Mr. Birk; I was not present when he came into Mr. Birk's, I was present when he claimed the bundle of Mr. Birk, and Mr. Birk gave it to him; as I was taking him to the watch-house from there, I asked him how it came there, I took it from the prisoner at the watch-house, taking him to the watch-house I told him if he would tell me where they did come from, I would let him go, and he declared before the justice that he took them.

Court. That is not evidence now. - I have kept that bundle from that time to this. (The bundle produced.)


I am a house-keeper in the parish of St. Giles's, I was out the third of this month, between eight and nine o'clock on the duty of a patrole; I went to Birk's house, the prisoner asked for his bundle, I heard him, Birk gave it to him, and asked him was it his property? he said it was; this bundle I left in my partner's care. (Deposed to.)

Prisoner. I left some things at Mill-hill at the woman's were I lodged; I went to Brent, from there with a message, and had two shillings for my journey; I went back to Mill-hill again for my things, and when I came there, they were gone to bed, I did not call them up, I stopped about, and I found these things under the terrace in Mr. Anderson's garden.

GUILTY . (Aged 23.)

Imprisoned three months , and publickly whipped .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-34

RICHARD HERBERT otherwise ALBERT , was indicted for feloniously stealing on the 27th of December 80 pounds weight of lead, value 8 s. belonging to Nathaniel Joyce Crumpton , affixed to a dwelling house .


Nathaniel Crumpton is my husband, we do not live together.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-35

156. WILLIAM JACKSON was indicted for feloniously stealing on the 8th of January , a pair of velveret breeches, value 4 s. the goods of James Sharp .


Last Tuesday afternoon, the Prisoner at the bar came into the shop, and asked to look at some waistcoats, I shewed the prisoner at the bar three or four, and then he asked to look at some breeches, I shewed him some, the prisoner after looking at a few pair tried two pair on; after that he gave them to me, and says, put these two pair of breeches by, I shall have one pair of them; then he put his own breeches on, and came and looked at the breeches by the light, and then he said he would give me no more than half a guinea for them; then the prisoner stood at the door a few minutes, and says he, I am sorry I cannot deal with you, as I have given you so much trouble, and he walked out of the shop for about six yards, and I collared him and brought him into the shop again, I told him I thought he had got a pair of my breeches in his breeches, he seemed quite alarmed at that; I told him if he did not unbutton his breeches

I would unbutton them for him, he took and unbuttoned the two flaps, and pulled his breeches down, and I saw my breeches; I called to my wife and said here is a man got a pair of our breeches in his breeches, and then I sent for a constable; I took him and the breeches to the Rotation-office, and the constable had them till yesterday about ten o'clock, when the constable gave them to me; I had no mark on them, no more than the shop mark; the shop mark is not a mark of my making, it is to tell the size they are, what we call a long sour's, it is the man's mark that supplies me with breeches; I am certain they are my breeches, but I could not miss any, I have got several dozen pair in the shop.

Q. Then the shop mark is put on by the man that sells them to you; does not he put on the same mark to different shops? - He does.

Q. Is it not possible for the man to have bought these breeches at another shop with that mark? - Yes, it is possible, but it is very improbable; when I was pulling the breeches out of his breeches, he said don't, don't, that was all he said.

Prisoner. I was in liquor. - He did not appear to be so.


I saw the breeches taken out of the prisoner's breeches.

Prisoner. What did I say first when I came into the shop? - He said he wanted to look for some waistcoats and breeches.

Prisoner. When I went into the shop, I asked to look at some velveret breeches, I wanted some pretty good ones, he shewed me some, and I looked a pair out, which I thought would fit me, and I asked what they were to be, and I cannot be sure whether he said 15 s. or 14 s. but it was one of the two, and I think to the best of my remembrance I bid him 12 s. and 10 s. 6 d. and he would not take it, I said I think these would fit me, I pulled my own off, and put these breeches on, and if I pulled two pair down, it is more than I know, I was in liquor, and therefore I put on these breeches, they fitted me very well, and when he found the breeches afterwards hanging out here behind, I did not know I had them about me, when I had my own on.

Court to Prosecutor. Were they folded up? - They were, and I saw the prisoner conniving at these breeches in his own breeches, in order to put them up.

Prisoner. I have lived with the Earl of Effingham, and Esq. Hardington, and Mr. Hardcastle, and the Countess of Mexborough; I have been trusted with thousands of pounds, and I never wronged them of a penny in my life.

GUILTY . (Aged 56.)

Imprisoned three months and publickly whipped .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-36

157. ROWLAND JONES was indicted for feloniously stealing on the 8th of January , two ounces of gold, value 30 s. the goods of John Page .

JOHN PAGE sworn.

I am a jeweller ; the prisoner was a servant of mine, he had been with me about ten months, he was in the capacity of a porter , I did not absolutely miss the things, I was sent for from Bow-street, to identify the property, on Tuesday last, I found two ounces of gold which Mr. Heather the pawnbroker had stopped.

- HEATHER sworn.

The prisoner at the bar brought me two ounces of gold to sell on Tuesday last, I examined it and I discovered it to be several new things broke to pieces, watch keys

and trinkets, all broke to pieces; it weighed two ounces nine grains, it is worth about five pounds, I should have given that for it myself, I was in the parlour when the prisoner came, my young man came in and shewed it to me, and I went immediately into the shop, that young man is not here, I sent privately to Bow-street for an officer, I asked the prisoner where he lived and I asked him if that was his gold, he said yes, I examined the gold, and asked where he lived, and he said his name was Henry Thomas , and he lived in High-street, Lambeth; in the mean time the constable came and he was taken into custody, he was carried immediately to the office, and there he confessed where he stole it, the examination was taken in writing. I have kept that gold from that time to this, the magistrate sent for the prosecutor and he came immediately.

Court to Page. What is the prisoner's name? - Rowland Jones ; he never lived at Lambeth to my knowledge he had been in my service these ten months past and never slept out of my house once. (The property produced and deposed to.) I had not missed such property, it appears to be watch keys, but about four months since, I found I had lost some gold watch keys, and a part of a gold seal, three links of a chain I had in the shop was gone, the whole weight of the chain was originally ten penny weights, and it was reduced to nearly eight penny weights and there is about three links among these pieces of gold, I can swear it to be the same, from the corresponding pattern, I missed four or five watch keys, and they were of that sort.

Prisoner. They are what I picked up sweeping the shop, the back storehouse, and places about at several times.

GUILTY . (Aged 37.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-37

222. MARY NICHOLLS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 22d of December , sixty-three yards of black silk lace, value 30 s. the goods of Thomas Flint .


I am a haberdasher in Gracechurch street ; I was sent for to the office in Mansel-street, Goodman's Fields, about the 22d of December, it was on a Saturday; the men that came to me on that business brought, on a slip of paper, some marks, to know if I knew them; I went there, and they produced some lace; and I knew it was mine.

Mr. Knowlys. When you was before the magistrate, you there said that you had no kind of recollection of ever seeing this woman in your shop. - I did; I do not serve in my shop myself.


I am a pawnbroker; I produce some silk lace taken from the prisoner the 22d of December, Saturday, between the hours of three and five in the afternoon.

Court to Flint. What time did you go to the office? - I think it was after candlelight, soon after we had lighted the candles in our shop; but it was rather dark.

Court to Allen. Proceed. - Between the hours of three and five in the afternoon, the prisoner at the bar came and offered me some lace to pledge; from the number of yards I supposed it might not be her property. I asked her whose it was; she said it was the property of some person who was in distress, without saying whom; afterwards there was some words passed between us and she said I might send for an officer; I told her I thought it was not her property, and I would send for an officer; an officer came, and she was taken to the office and committed for re-examination. I have had the lace in my

possession ever since it was shewn to the prosecutor at the office.

Mr. Knowlys. When you told the woman that from the quantity you did not think it was her's, she said you might send for an officer if you pleased? - She did; she proposed it herself first.

- SMITH sworn.

I am an apprentice to Thomas Flint . The lace was in the shop on the 13th of December, Thursday; we counted the laces on that day, both in the shop and in the warehouse, and they appeared to be perfectly right then; so that that lace was in our possession the 13th of December; they were right by comparing them with the books. I know the pattern exceeding well; I do not recollect the prisoner.

Q. Do you mean that when you counted all the laces, you can tell that that piece was there with that quantity? - I can swear that the lace was right that day; we had such a pattern in the house that day.

Q. Can you say that you had a piece of lace of that identical size on that card? - The quantity was seventy-two yards and a half. We do not examine the quantity of the yards; we only count the number of the cards; we count them once a week; the card is marked 1850. We never look at the patterns; nor do we particularly look at the numbers; we had lace of that number on the card; on that day I examined them.

Q. Do you, as you look through the book, examine the lace and see that your laces correspond to the numbers in the book? - We do; and further I can say, this lace never was sold; we never sell a card-lace out of our shop. Whenever we sell a card-lace we always cut the number and ticket off, and we know it is not sold by our wholesale books.

Mr. Knowlys. I believe you told us a little while ago, that when you are running over the laces, you do not attend to the patterns? - We do not.

Q It was the 13th of December when the laces were counted over; and it certainly must be there, or it would not be put down in the book. - I only know by this, that if it had not been there, then we should have found one card short. I counted them; and another young man in the shop, he counts the shop and I count the warehouse. I took the numbers that he counted on a piece of paper.

Q. But whether he counted them right or not must depend on him? - I took the account as he gave it me.

Q. You relied on him to be correct? - I did.

Q. And he is not here? - He is not.

Q. He counted the cards in the shop; and you counted the cards in the warehouse? - I took the account from him of the quantity that he had counted.

Q. He took the shop laces; therefore he was the man that knew whether the shop laces were right or not? - There is no doubt but what he counted them right.

Q. Was this a shop lace or a warehouse lace? - It had been in the shop a week; I recollect this very card in the shop; I recollect the pattern being there. I do not say that I recollect this pattern that day; but I recollect having seen both pattern and card in the shop.

Q. Now you say the card again; you said before you did not look at the pattern or number, but only go by the tale? - We do.

Court to Flint. How do you know this lace to be your's? - I know it by several things; first of all here is the mark 1850; and here is another number, 9525, both of which has a reference to my book; the one has a reference to the man's bills of parcels of whom I bought it of, No. 9525, and 1850 refers to my piece account; I have the bills of parcels and the book.

Q. Who keeps that book? - This young man and another and my wife. We enter every card of lace by the number;

and we enter our own number likewise; we put down the quantity of yards we put the cost mark, and we put the selling mark. If they should happen to tally, if they answer to the quantity that this book warrants them to be, they are past over as right. If there should be any missing, it is wrote down missing such a day; that book contains the warehouse account and the shop account; there is no separate account.

Q. I ask you whether the account taken in the shop and the account taken in the warehouse are taken by different people? - They cannot but be taken by different people, because one person cannot take them alone.

Q. May not the warehouse account be taken by one man, and the shop account by another? - No; because one calls the lace, and the other checks the book against it.

Q. Why have you not brought the other persons? - I could not spare the time that I have lost already.

Q. Had not you another young man that took the account with this witness? - I have; but I can tell that the account was past on the 13th and found right. I can swear to that; and he can swear the same if he swears the truth; we never sell a card of lace with the marks on it; the number is always cut off and put into a drawer.

Q. You say you are not in the habit of selling; nor never do sell a card of lace in the shop with the numbers on; but might not this have been sold to a wholesale customer? - Had this been sold to a wholesale customer, the No. 1850, the quantity of yards and the private marks would have been in the wholesale book.

Q. As to the number 9525, what do you know by that? - My Lord, there is the numbers, there is the quantity, and there is the prices, all in plain figures, as plain as an A, B, C.

Mr. Knowlys. These cards, when you sell to an wholesale customer, are entered in an wholesale book; and that book is not here? - It is not here; we must be very hardy to come here and affront you.

Court to Smith. With regard to the shop laces, how were the business carried on between you and the other young man, on the 13th of December? - We counted them on a piece of paper, the young man counted in the shop, and I in the warehouse.

Q. Your master said it was done different? - It was taken by two, one counted and the other checked the book.

Mr. Flint. Give me leave to explain.

Court. You swore positively and decidedly how it was done; your servant has explained it to be done in a different manner, and now you want to make general observations upon it, the Court will not endure it. I do not mean to impute to you or the servant; but if the accounts do not exactly tally, it is our duty to see whether they exactly tally or not, servants do not at all times do as their master orders them.

The prisoner called five witnesses who gave her an exceeding good character, particularly her master whom she lived with at the time, at Old Ford, when this affair happened.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-38

158. ESTHER PULLEIN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 17th of December , a tea caddy , the property of Alexander Taylor .


I lost a tea caddy from my bureau, on the 17th of December on Monday from

my parlour; I went out from my own house about three o'clock in the afternoon, and I left it on the bureau; I returned about five o'clock and it was gone; I saw it there at three o'clock in the afternoon when I went out; I saw it again at the pawnbroker's on Tuesday between seven and eight o'clock at night.

Prisoner. Have not you known me some time, and did you ever know any ill of me? - I have known her some years, her husband is a cabinet maker; I have seen her at my house, but not that day the tea caddy was lost she was not seen there.


I am a pawnbroker; I produce a tea caddy; I stopped the prisoner at the bar with it on Tuesday the 18th of December between seven and eight in the evening, she brought it to our house to pledge; I had information that such a thing was lost, and I stopped it; I asked whose it was? she first of all told me it was her husband's; I told her I had a suspicion it was stole in the neighbourhood, I told her I would send for him, and she would wait till he come; she then said, she would tell me the truth, it belonged to a lodger of her's. I have kept it ever since; I have known her some years, and always thought her a very honest industrious woman.


The prosecutor is my cousin; I know it to be his property; I am a painter; I have been in his house nine years; I never heard any thing ill of the prisoner.

Prosecutor. The husband was seen in my shop in the afternoon, I was not at home at the time he called, and they gave him an order to call again; but did not see any property on him. (The property deposed to.)

Prisoner. My husband gave it me and told me to pawn it, he is a cabinet maker by trade.

The prisoner called three witnesses who gave her a very good character, but believed she was unfortunately married.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-39

159. JOHN BARBER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 23d of December , one live peacock, value 20 s. the goods of Ann Bevarn , widow .


I am a coachman to Mrs. Bevarn, she is a widow lady; she lives in Hackney ; she had a live peacock, it was stole the 23d of December, Sunday; I did not see the prisoner take it, I see it in his custody, he was got about a quarter of a mile from the house, it was of a tame breed, there is not another nigh the place; I have known the peacock these two years, it lived just a week after the woman got it in the basket, it was never well afterwards, it lived till the Sunday following, there was no particular mark on this; I have known it two years and a month that I have been with Mrs. Bevarn; I am certain it is the peacock; I was just in from the carriage, and a man here present saw the man take up the peacock from Mrs. Bevarn's house; I am sure it was her peacock, the peacock was missing, I produce it now.


I am a gardner at the next door but I did not see the prisoner take the peacock; I stopped him with the property in the basket about a quarter of a mile from the house; I told him he must not take it away, it belonged to the lady in the row; he said, it did not belong to him, I might take it if I chose; he had it in a basket with its head doubled under its back and

its heels out of the basket; the prisoner delivered it to the coachman immediately himself.


I work in the brickfields just by Mrs. Bevarn's; I see the prisoner take this peacock off the grass platt, which is almost facing the gate of Mrs. Bevarn's, it is quite an open common; I went into the public house and told the people of it, and they desired me to run after him, and I ran after the man, and I saw him stop; I cannot swear to the peacock, he had the peacock when he was stopped.

Court to Saville. Do you live in this neighbourhood? - I do; I cannot swear to the fowl.

Prisoner. I went out the Sunday morning; I was got very much in liquor; I saw a bird lay and I picked it up, and this gentleman came and owned it, and I gave it to him, if a child had come and owned it, I should have given it to him, for I was very much in liquor and did not know what I did.

The prisoner called two witnesses to his character.

GUILTY . (Aged 45.)

Publickly Whipped

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-40

160. WILLIAM STEVENS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 27th of December , one pair of woollen trowsers, value 2 s. 6 d. the goods of Honora Cogan , widow .


I live with Honora Cogan; I carry on her business, she is a widow woman; she is a saleswoman ; a pair of trowsers was stole on the 27th of December; I did not see the prisoner take them; I missed them; I was reading the news paper at the door, between seven and eight in the morning, the trowsers lay at the off corner on the right hand, on the door on a rail; an opposite neighbour to me, called out, Broderick, Broderick! I looked out and missed the trowsers; I called out who took them; they said, that man in the brown coat; I ran after him; he threw down the trowsers; I picked them up; I did not see him drop them; I ran after the prisoner, but did not take him, the man is here that took him; I have kept the trowsers from that time to this. (Produced and deposed to.)


I am a watch finisher by trade; I had just got out of bed and got to my window, and I saw the prisoner at the bar lift up his hand and take these trowsers from the nail; I drove up the window and called out Broderick, Broderick, the man has robbed you of the trowsers; by that time the prisoner had got about five or six yards, and I see him drop the trowsers when he heard me call; Broderick called to me which man is it? says I, the second man, the man in the brown coat, he had a companion; I saw Broderick run after him about twenty yards, and I am sure he is the man I saw about two hours after at the justice's, and I am sure it is the same man that took the breeches; when he came down to the justice's he had on a brown coat.


I am a poor working man; I did not see the man take the things; I heard the alarm, and I pursued; I did not loose sight of him from the first alarm till he was taken; Broderick pointed out to me the man I was to follow; he turned down the lane into Blue Anchor-yard; when I catched him, he begged I would let him go; he said, it was all a joke,

and then the constable came up and took him.

Prisoner. Be so good to ask him whether he did not come into the place, where I was locked up, and said, he was very sorry that he had taken me, for he believed I was not the man that took them. - I said, I was sorry that I took him, because it hindered me my time in being obliged to go before the magistrate.

Prisoner. My lord it was between seven and eight o'clock, I was going to my work, going by the door the prosecutor he was reading the news paper, and he asked me if I wanted to buy any thing? I was rather in liquor, and he took hold of my arm, and I told him I did not, and he gave me a shove, and the trowsers were taken off the door, and the other gentleman called out to him the trowsers were taken off the door, the person ran down the street, and I went after them both, and went as far as this turning, and there we lost the other man, and they immediately laid hold of me, and they took me into a public house very nigh, and we had two or three pots of purl, we set there very near an hour and then he went and fetched this gentleman from across the way.

Prosecutor. There is not one word true; I did not drink a drop of purl with him, the constable took him into the public house he called for a pint of purl and drank it himself in the corner.

GUILTY . (Aged 42.)

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

[Fine. See summary.]

Reference Number: t17930109-41

161. WILLIAM SMITH and JACOB DENNING were indicted for feloniously and falsely making and forging, on the 22d of June , a certain bond, purporting to be signed by William Smith , William Garbot then deceased, in his life time, Job Woodford and Edward Edwards , and to be sealed by them with intention to defraud the said Job Woodford .

In a 2d COUNT charged with feloniously uttering as true the said bond, knowing it to be forged with the like intention, against the form of the statute, and against the King's peace.


I am an attorney; I received this bond of the prisoner Denning at my house in Ratcliff highway, to the best of my recollection it appears to be the same identical bond, I have no doubt about it.


I am clerk of the rules of the King's bench; I produce the original affidavit of Denning.

(The affidavit read by the clerk of the Court.)

Jacob Denning of Old Gravel-lane maketh oath, that this action was commenced against the above named defendant, to recover a sum of money due against the defendant, on a bond dated July 1786, which said bond was given and executed by the said William Garbot and William Smith, for goods sold by him; and this deponent entered into the said bond with one Patrick Sinclair ; and the defendent Woodford, also gave a bill of exchange to this deponent of the same date, for the sum of 35 l. and the defendant William Smith and Edward Edwards gave to this deponent also two bills of exchange; and there was also due 1 l. 2 s. for two hats sold to William Smith for William Garbot ; and the sum of money computed to be due amounted in the whole to the sum of 366 l. 18 s. 4 d. or thereabouts; and the said deponent says, that the sum which he received from the India house

and which money he was duly authorised to receive, with the addition of 30 l. received by the defendant Smith, in the whole amounted to 236 l. 13 s. 9 d. which being deducted from the sum of 366 l. 18 s. 4 d. leaves a balance in this deponent's favour of 130 l. 1 s. 7 d. and which said sum is now due to this deponent from Job Woodford; to all which the said defendant Job Woodford was privy, and he could have no other motive than delay, &c.

Sworn at Serjeants Inn, before W. H. Ashurst,


I belong to the store-keeper's office at Deptford, Dock-yard; the prosecutor, Woodford, is employed in that Dockyard, I have been acquainted with him fifteen or twenty years; I have frequently seen him write, there is a resemblance; but there wants something in it, the last letter of his name is not turned as I usually see him do it. (Another paper shewn him.) This is the manner; but it is something fuller than this.

Q. From the whole observation of that paper do you believe that is his signature? - As it appears to me now, I believe it not to be his hand writing, there is a great resemblance in the other letters; but for want of that turn I cannot say that it is his writing particularly.

Mr. Feilding. The first bond that you have seen, you say that that, bears a resemblance, but you think there is some difference on the turn of the D? - There is.

Q. You think there is also some difference in the turn of the D, in the second instrument that is shewn to you by Mr. Garrow? - I think it is not so full.

Mr. Garrow. In general you say that the stroke of the D was fuller than in the first instrument? - It was.

Mr. Feilding. Be so good as to look at any of these signatures, and see if any one is the hand writing of Woodford's. (Looks at some more signatures.) - The first is.

Q. Look at the second and third; - The third D is not turned up, I think the second is his hand writing.

Q. Now look at the hand. - I think it is his hand writing, but it is not as I have seen him write.

Q. Now look at all his writing, and see what you think about it. - I think it is all his writing, except the D is not turned in the usual way.

Mr. Knowlys. Look at this name, (another signature shewn him.) Do you think this is his hand writing? - I believe it is, this is in the manner I have been used to see him write.

Q. How long have you known Smith, the prisoner? - I know nothing of the transaction.


I am clerk in the store-keeper's office, I have known Woodford ten or twelve years, I am well acquainted with the character of his hand writing.

Q. Look at that, if you believe that to be his signature? - There is a difference to that which I have been accustomed to see, there is a difference in the turn of the D.

Q. Look at this. (Looks at another.) - Not quite so full as this, but similar.

Q. Look at this. (Looks at another.) - Something like this.

Q. Now on the whole of the signature to that bond, looking at it, and examining it, do you or do you not, believe it is Woodford's writing? - It bears such a similitude, I cannot be on my oath.

Q. You are not expected to speak positively either one way or the other.

Q. Would you have acted on that, as an instrument of his? - I should.


I belong to the same office as Mr. Parrel, I have known Woodford and been acquainted with his hand writing, it appears to me to be his writing, I should have acted on this.


What name did you go by in the year 1786? - William Rowland.

Q. What in the year 1788? - William Rowland .

Q. Did you never subscribe another name? - Never.

Q. Shew him that bond; is that your signature? - No.

Q. Shew him the other, is that your's? - No.

Q. Did you ever say that was your signature? - Never in my life.

Q. You never said that you wrote those names to that bond? - No never in my life.

Both not GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

Reference Number: t17930109-42

162. ELIZABETH WEELER was indicted for feloniously stealing on the 24th of December , two half guineas , the monies of Richard Bailey .


I am in the second regiment of life guards ; going through Holborn I met with the prisoner in Broad-street, St. Giles's, on the 24th of December last, about half after eleven in the evening. I was going home to my lodging, I met with the prisoner, she asked me if I would take a walk with her, I asked which way she was going, she said this way my dear, says she if you please to call here, we will have a bit of supper, says I with all my heart I will; accordingly I called at a cook's shop, we set till supper came, they charged for supper, and I paid for it, which was six pence, and I believe three pence half penny in copper; accordingly the person of the cook's shop returned the six pence, they did not like it, I asked them if it was a bad one, they said it was a good six pence, but it was a little one, accordingly I said I had no more silver, says the prisoner, I dare say you have got more silver; I have not indeed says I, accordingly she puts her hand into my pocket, I clasped hold of her arm, to seize her hand, I said I believe you have robbed me; she struggled with me, accordingly she whips her hand to her mouth, says she, I have got nothing; says I, I believe you have swallowed it; O says she, feel in my hand, there was nothing in her hand, accordingly says she, you may search every where about me, for I have got nothing; I put my hand into my pocket and said, you have taken two half guineas out of my pocket, I missed two half guineas out of that pocket she put her hand in, accordingly the people came in to our assistance when we were struggling, accordingly says I, I will charge the watch, says I, you have got my money; the watch took her to the watch-house and examined her in a back room, and found nothing at all, she went to the watch-house and I went along with her; the next morning I appeared before the magistate and he committed her I never found the money again.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

Reference Number: t17930109-43

163. JAMES STOW and LANGLEY WHITE were indicted for feloniously stealing on the 27th of December , a pair of leather breeches, value 7 s. and a linen shirt, value 5 s. the goods of James Smith .

James Smith and witnesses were called on their recognizances, and not appearing, the prisoners was acquitted .

Reference Number: t17930109-44

164. EDWARD YARRELL was indicted for feloniously stealing on the 26th of December a half gallon pewter pot, value 3 s. the goods of Timothy Branham .


I live in Church-street in the strand; I lost some pewter pots about a fortnight ago; seven pint pots, three quart pots, and an half gallon one; I found them again the next morning; I missed them out of a court, they were getting in, in the afternoon; William Stevenson brought them next morning.


On the 26th of December, the day after Christmas day, about seven o'clock in the evening, I saw a person whom I suspected he had these pots in his apron, I did not immediately know what it was; I followed him and I hit him on the shoulder, and asked him what he had got there, he gave me some evasive answer; I said no resistance, and he let them fall out of his apron; I said as you have carried them for your own pleasure, you shall now carry them for mine, (or I will break a leg or arm;) to Marlborough-street, he carried them to great Marlborough-street, to the Police office there; I first saw him as I came out of great Crown-court, in Dean-street, Soho.

Q. Do you know how far distant that is from Timothy Branham 's? - I cannot tell exactly, it may be a mile; I went with him to the magistrate and he was committed to Tothill-fields, till the next evening for hearing; I was to look for the landlord and bring him forward; I went to him the next evening and took the pots there, and we were bound over to prosecute; the pots have Branham's name on them, that is the way I found him out. (The pots produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. When I was taken, I had got the pots towards the house, in order to take the pots home, as I had read the name where they belonged to.


He was the direct opposite road.

GUILTY . (Aged 63.)

Imprisoned three months and publickly whipped .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

Reference Number: t17930109-45

165. JOSEPH SPENCER and JOSEPH DOUGLAS were indicted for feloniously stealing on the 21st of december , a linen pillow case, value 6 d. the goods of Elizabeth Pally ; a mode silk clock, value 3 l. a ditto, value 10 s. a cotton gown, value 12 s. a cotton petticoat, value 8 s. two silver table spoons, value 12 s. a silver punch ladle, value 5 s. two gold rings, value 6 s. a gold mourning ring, value 10 s. a stone ring value 4 s. a pearl pin, value 5 s. a tortoiseshell snuff box, mounted with gold, value 5 s. a pair of silver shoe buckles, value 10 s. and a dollar, value 4 s. &c. the goods of Sarah Pally , Spinster , in the dwelling house of Elizabeth Pally .

(The case opened by Mr. Knowlys, and the witnesses examined separate.)


I have kept the baker's arms in Whitecross street , upwards of thirty years; on the 21st of December, my house was robbed; my daughter left the house about eleven in the noon day, the prisoner Spencer came into my house and brought a bit of bread and meat in his hand, and his father with him; he and his father were neighbours; my daughter was out about a quarter of an hour, he came in much about a quarter after eleven, it was before twelve, Douglas was there several times before and after; I always thought him a worthy honest young man, I know both of them very well; the brewer's servant came to my house past twelve, I said, I am going down to the cellar, I beg you will take notice of my house till I come up for my daughter is out; I went into the cellar with the brewer's servant, I stayed for the space of ten or twelve minutes and then I came up; I said to Mr. Spencer the father, your son has left his bread and meat on the table; I expected he was going to eat it.

Q. Had he ordered any beer before you went down? - I don't recollect he did, they were frequently in and out, Douglas was there some time before, but, they were both away at that time, he was frequently in and out.

Q. Do you recollect seeing them there after Spencer came in, and before you went down into the cellar? - I don't recollect, my daughter came home very near one o'clock; she went up stairs to change her apron, for a coloured apron; when she went up stairs, she came down, I saw my servants look in a maze, and they said the door was broke open; I went up stairs and I sent for Douglas to come to make my door fast, says I, Mr. Douglas, I have been robbed, and I will be very glad if you will fasten my door; he fastened it with a staple.


I am the daughter of the last witness; on the day the house was robbed I left the house about eleven o'clock; I left the room double locked, the rooms was in perfect order, and the things in it safe; I returned to my mother's house about one; I know the prisoners perfectly well; when I left the house I did not observe

them to be in the house when I went out; for I went through the passage which has no communication with the tap room; I returned about one and went up stairs, and found the door broke open, the box was forced from the lock, the room was all in a confusion, the chest all empty, and a large bundle tied up and on the stairs, of my gowns, &c. I saw that bundle on the stairs as I went up, that bundle contained wearing apparel of mine that was left.

Q. Did that contain all the property that had been taken out of the room? - All but what was stated in the indictment; I lost two black mode cloaks of my own, a silver pepper box, two silver table spoons, four gold rings, a pair of ear rings, a gold pin, a punch ladle, a snuff box, the rings were in it, a pair of shoe buckles, and a dollar, a cotton gown and coat, and a linen pillow case of my mother's, besides what was in the bundle. When I saw the bundle on the stairs, I was in hopes that I had come time enough to prevent the robbery; the carpet was left all in the ruck, and the room was in very great confusion.

Q. Where the things of the value you have mentioned in the indictment? - Yes, three times the value.


I am a lamp-lighter; I was in Mrs. Pally's house, the day she was robbed; I know Joseph Spencer , I saw him that day, I was coming out of Mrs. Pally's tap room half past twelve in the morning, and I was going through the taproom, and I saw Joseph Spencer , with one of his legs within the thresh-hold of the entry of the door of this part of the passage; I comes out of Mrs. Pally's house, and goes into Goat's-yard, the passage is a proper thoroughfare to Goat's-yard, I goes into Goat's-yard, where Spencer lived, I followed him right out, and I saw him go into his mother's door, he had a white bag with him, it appeared full; I had not at this time heard any thing of the robbery, it was a white bag, about three quarters of a yard long, it was stuffed quite full.

Q. Did you go into his mother's house? - No, I went back again to Mrs. Pally's, I stayed there all the day; I live close there; about a quarter after one there was an alarm of the robbery.

Q. What was the reason for your going back into the yard to see where Spencer lived? - I did not go back to see where he lived, I went up to my own lodgings, I lodge in Goat's-yard.

Q. How long was you in your own lodgings before you came back? - Not above five or six minutes; at a quarter past one, the alarm was given of the robbery, I told Mrs. Pally directly I heard of the robbery, that I had seen him with the bundle; I did not see any thing of Douglas.

Prisoner Spencer. I live next door to that young man, I do not recollect seeing him at all.


I am a constable; I was at Mrs. Pally's house, the 21st of December, I saw both the prisoners in the house that morning, between ten and eleven o'clock, that is all I know.


I am a lamplighter; I know Mrs. Palley's house; I know Joseph Spencer by living next door to him; Mrs. Palley's house was robbed the 21st of December, on that day I saw Spencer in Goat-yard, the same yard I live in, between twelve and one, he had a white bag in his left hand and a pipe in his right smoaking; I was going out of the court to work; he was about a couple of yards from his own mother's house; he was walking towards his own mother's house: what was in the bag I cannot tell, it appeared

full, it was the size of about three quarters of a yard as nigh as I can guess, and very white.

Jury. Was he smoaking his pipe? - I cannot say he had it in his right hand.


How old are you my lad? - Going of eleven.

Q. Do you know the nature of an oath? - No sir.

Q. Have you learned your catechism? - I never did.

Q. Do you know whether it is a good thing to tell the truth? - Yes.

Q. Do you know whether it is a bad thing to tell stories? - Yes, it is.

Q. What will become of you if you tell stories, do you think you shall be punished or rewarded? - I shall be punished.


I live in Banner-street, right fronting Mrs. Pally's.

Q. Do you know either of the prisoners at the bar? - Yes, I know that one on the other side.

Court. Go and touch the one you know. (He went and touched Spencer.)

Q. Do you remember the day Mrs. Pally's house was robbed? - It was on a Friday, I saw Spencer that day between twelve and one; he was coming down Banner-street, Goat-yard comes right fronting Banner-street; he had a white bag across his shoulder, he wanted to run up our place, it has no name, and he found it had no thoroughfare; and he went back and went strait down; I am sure he is the man I saw, I saw him at the justice's; I did not see any body with him, I had known him long by sight; the bag was like a pillow case, white as snow.

Court. Tell me exactly whereabouts in Banner-street you first saw him? - The second door going down Banner-street, he was going down towards Bunhill-row.

Q. How far was you from him when you first saw him? - I was not above three yards from him when I first saw him.

Q. How near is your place to that second door in Banner-street where you saw him? - He was turning up the second door where I live; I live at the place which turns up at the second door, he came down the court facing Banner-street.

Q. Did you see him coming down the court? - I saw him cross the road of the street, from the court.

Q. What is the name of that court? - I forgot the name of the court.

Q. Do you know Mrs. Pally's house? - Yes, it is two doors from Mrs. Pally's house.

Q. Is it two doors below or above? - It is Goat-yard, two doors above.

Q. Is there a passage from Mrs. Pally's house into Goat-yard? - There is, it goes through into Mrs. Pally's house.


I did live at the Prince of Wales's public house, Mr. Crowther's, at the time Mrs. Pally's house was robbed, I know Mr. Spencer. Her house was robbed the 21st of December, I saw him that day near one o'clock in the day, I was going out, Mr. Spencer came into our house and called for a pint of beer; he had a parcel with him in a white bag something of a pillow case, or exceeding white, it appeared full and he had it in his right hand down by the side of his coat, I was going out with a pint of beer, he was out before I came back, I met him at Mr. Gabriel's gateway where he came in, he asked me to call Purdie, I sent my master's little boy to call him, I was not out above two minutes, as I came back again I saw Mr. Purdie and Mr. Douglas coming from Whitecross-street, not quite close to Mr. Gabriel's gateway, but coming

towards it, Mr. Spencer stood under the gateway with this here bundle; when Mr. Douglas came to Spencer, he took it from Spencer into his hand and put it over his shoulder, and went towards Featherstone street; I went in doors and saw no more of them at that time, Douglas had on a green jacket and a black round cap.

Q. In going from that gateway to Featherstone-street, do you pass Mrs. Pally's house or not? - No, we go quite away from Mrs. Pally's house.

Q. Had you known Douglas before? - Not to my knowledge, but I saw him at the justice's on Christmas eve.

Q. What became of Purdie? - Purdie did not go along with them; Purdie was only sent for to call this Douglas to Spencer.

Q. You describe Douglas as having on a green jacket, did you see that again? - Yes, I see it taken off from Douglas at Mr. Wilmot's office.

Q. Did it appear to be the same jacket? - It did upon my word.

Q. How long after you had first seen Spencer come into your house did you see him again under the gateway? - I dare say not above five minutes, I only went out with a pint of beer.

Mr. Garrow. How long have you left the Prince of Wales? - Almost a fortnight.

Q. On warning? - Yes.

Q. No other reason for quitting your place? - Not that I know of.

Q. Do you mean to swear it so incautiously. What was the reason of your parting? - There was a reason to be sure, but what I spoke about the prisoner is truth.

Q. What was that reason? - It was for taking an old shift, and that is the truth of it.

Q. It was about dinner time you represent this man to have come? - It was.

Mr. Knowlys. At the time you was before the justice did you know Douglas? - I did not.

Q. You was before the justice on the 21st? - No, not till the 24th.


I am a plane maker, I was at my work near there.

Q. Do you know either of the prisoners at the Bar? - I know one extremely well, I saw the other once before at the office; I know Mr. Spencer the best.

Q. Do you remember the day that Mrs. Pally's house was said to be robbed? - The Friday before Christmas, I remember seeing Spencer that day near one o'clock; Mr. Spencer went over the way to a public house, the Prince of Wales, Mr. Crowther's, and Mr. Crowther's little boy came for me, while I was standing at my bench talking to this little boy, Mr. Spencer came under our master's gateway, Mr. Gabriel's in Banner-street; and he beckoned me with his hand, immediately I went down; he asked me if I would go and fetch a person from Mrs. Pally's, I went; and I see old Mr. Spencer sitting in a corner; I did not know the name of the man I was sent for; and I asked the old man, who was so and so? says he, that young man with the jacket, I asked him his christian name, for I could not call his name to mind; he only mentioned the christian name, he did not mention the surname, and the father pointed to a person with a green jacket and a black round hat with the rim cut off, I called him on one side, I said young man I want to speak to you; I said Joseph Spencer wants to speak to you, says he, where is he, I said he is under my master's gateway; immediately he came along with me to our master's gateway, he sees Mr. Spencer, and he called him on one side and spake to him, I cannot say what; I stood with my face toward the opposite part of the street; and I saw that young woman that lives at Mr. Crowther's come by and she nodded at me; and this Mr.

Spencer gave a kind of a white bag to this person that I fetched and he took and chucked it across his shoulder, Mr. Spencer said to me here Tom here is the price of a pot of beer three-pence halfpenny; he went down Banner-street towards Bunhill-row, and they both went away together, I cannot positively swear Douglas is the man, upon my word; Mr. Spencer I know well, I have known him some years.

Prisoner Spencer. Had not we three pots of beer a day or two before that at the Spread Eagle, Whitecross-street? - We had.

Q. Was not this three-pence halfpenny given to you on the account of that reckoning which was left unpaid? - Not to my knowledge, we had to be sure left the reckoning unpaid and they looked to me for it.


I live in Whitecross street, I am a brother of Mrs. Pally; in consequence of the robbery I put out some hand bills; I got four gold rings again, two I got at Mr. Stacey's the Black Raven, the publican in Golden-lane; and the other two at one Mr. Brooks who keeps a grinder's shop in Cloth Fair by Smithfield.

JOHN WOOD sworn.

I live in Golden-lane, I am in the horse hair weaving manufactory; I have a sister of the name of Pitt, I know both the prisoners at the bar; Mr. Douglas was frequently at my sister's house, and I saw Spencer there first on the 21st St. Thomas's day.

Q. Be so good as to look at these rings now produced by Mr. Rogers? - I saw one, but the others I did not take notice of; I saw it on the 21st as near as I can recollect about two o'clock; at the time I came into my sister's neither of the two prisoners were there, they came in while I was there, there was no conversation in their presence passed about it.

Q. When they came into your sister's had they any thing with them? - No, but I saw a pillow case at my sister's, I saw it before they came in, I was in my sister's apartment about ten minutes before they did come in, they came in both together.

Q. Had you any conversation with either of the prisoners relative to some rings or that pillow case? - I had.

Q. To which of them said you any thing about them? - To both of them; they had not been in the room ten minutes before I understood that Mrs. Pally had been robbed, I met a boy on the stairs who told me, as such I desired that these rings might be taken off the premises, the two prisoners were then in the room.

Q. What were the things you desired taken off the premises? - The rings which were left in the room; one I saw, there were four I understood, I could see only one positively, previous to that they took this pillow case away, and before I heard that the robbery was committed, the pillow case was there when they came in first, it appeared to be full, full nearly however, when they came in, Douglas brought a basket, and took it away in the basket, Douglas and Spencer together, I don't know where they carried it; they immediately took the rings away when I desired them, they were given into Douglas's hands, he took them away.

Q. What time was it you saw Douglas there the first time? - It was about ten minutes to two; they came in, the pillow case was taken away, they might be absent about a quarter of an hour, and returned, and then I heard of the robbery, and I desired that these rings should be taken off the premises.

Q. Did either of them say any thing about these things? - The things were taken away, I had no conversation about what the contents of the pillow case was at that time.

Q. At any other time? - I don't recollect my thing more.

Mr. Garrow. Do you work at your trade now Mr. Wood? - No, I am employed in the spinning manufacture, and I have been dealing in tow, and various other articles to get a livelihood.

Q. How lately have you been a weaver of horse hair? - I am a horse hair weaver in right of my father; I live as a waiter sometimes, especially in the summer season.

Q. How lately have you earned one day's work at horse hair weaving? - Not this twenty years; I live at Hornsey-house in the summer time, I am in the horse hair manufactory now.

Q. I don't understand you to say that you knew the rings again you saw at your sister's? - Here is one ring I do swear to, that I saw at my sister's. (The ring deposed to by Sarah Pally .


I am an officer. I apprehended Spencer, on Friday the 21st of December, about three o'clock in the afternoon as nigh as I can guess.

Prisoner Spencer. I got up that morning at half past four, and worked till eleven, when I said to my father I have got my work all loose, and I will go to Mrs. Pally's, and get a pint of beer, I went and my father came and informed me, that it was all cleared off, very well father, said I, then I will go and take the work to Mr. Wilkinson's, Little Moorfields, I went with the work, and coming back I bought a breast of mutton, and I put it into a small bag, and coming up the street I bought four pounds of potatoes, two carrots, and four turnips, and I puts this small bag into this bag here. (Produces a bag.) The mutton, potatoes, turnips and carrots, were all in one bag, and I carried it in my left hand across the Goat-yard where I live, and I carried it in my left hand down by the side; so in coming into my own door way, I met Mrs. Collis, says she, how do you do Joe, says I, how are you; I cut off a piece of the breast of mutton, and cut it off for my dinner; my father says Joe, we have no deal, I went to Mr. Smith's, in Beech-lane, to buy a leaf of deal, I bought this, and I comes up Whitecross-street. I put it along side Mrs. Pally's door, I went into Mrs. Pally's, and called for a pint of beer, when I called for a pint of beer, Mrs. Pally says, O Spencer you have robbed me, says I, madam, I never robbed you in my life, nor nobody else, with that, says she, Mr. Douglas, I wish you would take care of Spencer till I send for an officer, says I, madam, you have no call to ask any body to take care of me, I will sit down till an officer comes; I sat down, and when an officer came, they took up my brother with me, and my father, and another young man and woman, when we came before his worship in Hog-lane, Mary Hicks swore, that she saw my brother come along Goat-yard, with a bag in his hand, Mrs. Pally will swear the same, and when I was committed, they never brought Mary Hicks again; with that, please your Lordship, I have no more to say, then that I carried my victuals and the vegetables in the bag

Court to Sarah Pally . What is this about Mary Hicks 's swearing against his brother? - We had them all taken, and Mary Hicks , in Goat-yard, did swear that she saw the brother of Spencer, with a white bag; his brother does not live in Goat yard; I don't know how he came not to be committed. Mary Hicks lives in the yard, she takes in washing.

Prisoner Spencer. When I had been in prison two days for further hearing, there came intelligence to me, that they had taken up an Irish woman, and that they had found four gold rings on her, I said, I am very glad they have found out the thief, I don't know the Irish woman's

name; this woman went to pawn them, and the persons had a suspicion she had stole them, and the man came to Mrs. Pally's. I had four gentlemen to speak for me last night; I don't know whether they are here now or not.

Prisoner Douglas. I have no further to say, then that I never saw the pillow case in my life to my knowledge, that man never came for me to Mrs. Pally's; I never was under the gateway with him to my knowledge in my life.

The prisoner Douglas called six witnesses, who gave him an excellent character.

The prisoner Spencer called one witness, who said, he knew neither good nor harm of him.

The prisoner Douglas also called Jane Pitt .

JANE PITT sworn.

I live in Golden-lane; I am Wood's own sister.

Q. Do you remember the 21st of December having any rings at your lodgings? - I had, I have them in my pocket now; there are three, I had them on the 21st of December.

Q. Who was at your lodgings that day? - My brother.

Q. Was either of the two prisoners there? - No, not at all during the day.

Q. You saw nothing of the white bag then? - No, I have seen Mr. Douglas several times, but nothing further than washing for him; I did not see Spencer there, nor Douglas, while my brother was there; my brother came up to me, and I asked him to fetch me a pint of purl, and in pulling out the money to give him to pay for it, I pulled out these rings in my hand, I heard about Mr. Pally's house being robbed at two o'clock.

Q. Did your brother say any thing to you about taking the things out of the house? - No.

Court to Wood. You hear what your sister says? - Yes, my Lord, and it is a very grievous matter to hear it; Mr. Rogers knows I went to him and related the circumstances, I cannot say positively as to the day.

Court to Rogers. When did he come to you? - After the prisoners were fully committed, on the 25th of December, he came to me to acquaint me that he saw a bag of a white pillow case at his sister's, and he mentioned the four rings in particular; he mentioned to me, that he saw Spencer in Douglas's room while he was there.

Q. Had you advertised the reward? - Yes. He then acquainted me also, that he saw Douglas put the white bag in a basket.

Prisoner Douglas. Why did not the man, if he was a fair man go and tell it directly.

Court. That is a very just observation.

Joseph Spencer , GUILTY . Death . (Aged 28.)

Joseph Douglas , Not GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before the Lord CHIEF BARON.

Reference Number: t17930109-46

166. MARY CONNOLLY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 5th of January , two silver table spoons, value 20 s. three tea spoons, value 9 s. two linen table cloths, value 4 s. two muslin neck handkerchiefs, value 6 d. the goods of Elizabeth Brooks .


I live in upper Newman-street ; I rent a house; last Saturday I lost two silver table spoons, three silver tea spoons, two linen table cloths, two muslin caps, a linen pocket handkerchief, and a muslin neck handkerchief; it must be after four o'clock in the afternoon, because I saw the greatest part of them at that time; when I first missed them I could not

suppose any body else had got them, because there was only her and one more person left in my house; she was a servant of mine of all work, the other person is one that comes backwards and forwards to the house occasionally, she is at home in my house at present, her name is Ann Sidney, she lodges in my house, and she went out with me, we went out about a quarter before nine; I got home about half after ten though I did not miss my property till eleven; there was nobody in the house when I missed my property but the lodger; I said, I think it is very extraordinary that Molly does not return; I went down into the kitchen, and every thing was in the kitchen that I missed, the moment I went to the closet I missed my spoons; I then went to the house where she lodged before she came into my service, to know if they knew any thing of her; they told me that she called there about nine o'clock, but did not stop there any time; they said, they knew nothing of her; I could not do any thing at that time of night; I went to Bow-street on Monday, and asked whether I had best take up the other person; they said, the best way would be to send round hand bills, which I did, and received information from the office in Hatton-garden the day before yesterday, I received information that she had been stopped, and I went to the office with the constable, and there I saw the prisoner and the greatest part of my property; the pawnbroker has part of it, and the constable has part of it; she sent for me out to speak to me before she was examined, and begged and prayed I would do nothing to her; I asked her what she had to say to me? she said, that she had part of the property about her, and she would not give it to any body till she saw me, and begged I would not do any thing to her; I told her I did not know what I was doing myself; I told her I would not do any more harm to her than I could help, and a constable let her out and searched her, and took from her two table spoons, and the constable has them in his possession.


I have a table cloth and three tea spoons; the table cloth was brought to me by the prisoner at the bar, she asked me 4 s. on it; I offered her 2 s. she accepted of it, and I gave her the 2 s. and I gave her a duplicate, it was Wednesday evening; as soon as I had given her the money and the duplicate, she offered me the spoons, and wanted half a guinea on them; in consequence of which, I asked her some questions, and I found she was very impertinent in her answers and deviated very much in her story; I offered to send my lad home with her where she said she lived, which was No. 21, Gray's Inn-lane, when she went out with the boy she was going to take him quite the contrary way; the boy called out, and I went to the door, and I went for two or three constables of the parish, there were none of them at home; I sent for a neighbour to detain her in the shop, while I went to Hatton-garden and fetched up an officer; when she was before the magistrate she confessed whose spoons they were.


I am a constable; I was at our office in Hatton-garden, and I heard the prisoner say that she had got some more property about her; I and another brother officer took her and searched her, and found these table spoons on her. (Produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. Please your worship I know nothing at all about it, such as of the wearing apparel as she puts to my charge I know nothing at all about it; I have got no friends nor relations in town.

GUILTY . (Aged 22.)

Imprisoned six months , fined 1 s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-47

167. MARY CHITTY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 11th of December , a pair of linen sheets, value 4 s. and a flat iron, value 8 d. the goods of Charles Bailey in a lodging room .


I live in Cable-street , the prisoner lodged at my house, she came to lodge there about four months ago; she had one room up one pair of stairs; it was let to her by the week, it was furnished; I missed some furniture about the 15th of December, a pair of sheets, a blanket and a flat iron. On the 15th of December we went up into the room, and we had a suspicion that the things were gone, and I asked her where they were? and she said, they were in the room; she was in the room; I insisted on seeing of them, and threatened to fetch an officer; on that she quitted the place; I searched for the things and they were missing; she came again in the evening and said, if I would let her have the duplicates out of the room she would get the things; I am sure I let her the things with the room; she had the duplicates, and I never saw her till the next evening; I found the duplicates in the apartment on Saturday evening; on Tuesday evening I took an headborough with me, and I found her at the Jolly Sailors in Ratcliff-highway at a public house; from thence I took her down to Mr. Staples's office, and on searching her the duplicates were found, Mr Staples committed her till the Thursday evening following, when the things were brought up before the magistrate by the pawnbroker; the things are here.

Q. You let her go at first when you first went up into the room? - I did.

Q. You then insisted on seeing whether the things were there or not, and when you found them not there how came you to let her go? - She went away not known to me; she came back again of her own accord on the evening, and then said they were pawned, and said, if I would give her the duplicates she would fetch the things; she once pawned things before of mine, it was a sheet, and I don't know whether it was fetched out or left in.

Q. How long was it before the 15th of December? - I cannot tell exactly; but I believe it was got back.

Q. How came you to know she had pawned it? - By going up stairs and missing it; my wife knew that it was pawned.

Q. When she came and desired you to let her have the duplicates, you let her have the duplicates expecting her to bring the things, you did not consider her as having stolen them? - I only gave her the duplicates supposing that she meant to return them back again, I conceived so.

Q. Your wife is not here? - She is not.


I know the prisoner exceeding well; she did not pledge the flat iron at our house herself, she sent a woman with it; I am the son of a pawnbroker; it was pledged in the prisoner's name.


I am an apprentice to Mr. Penly, No. 69, Cable-street; Mary Chitty pledged the sheets on the 7th of December one pair of sheets; she had fetched the sheets and blankets out often; I have the sheets here. (Deposed to by the prosecutor.)

JOHN KEEP sworn.

I took the prisoner into custody; she was seated along with a parcel of black men, at a public house; I searched her and found the duplicates of these things

on her; I took her up to the magistrate at Shadwell office, and he committed her.

Prisoner. I did not leave the lodgings, Mr. Bailey put me out of the lodgings and locked my child in a prisoner all night; my intention was to get his property as soon as I could. I had a severe sit of sickness and nothing to support my child or myself; I have no witness.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

Reference Number: t17930109-48

168. THOMAS GREEN was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 9th of January six quart pewter pots, value 6 s. and six pint pewter pots, value 3 s. the goods of Alexander Maxwell .


I keep the Cross keys in Long-acre ; the 6th of this month I lost six quart pots and six pint pots, about a quarter before seven on Wednesday evening; they were left at a carpenter's door; I left them myself there, they were on a strap; I went up a court just by there; I returned in about five minutes and the pots were gone; my name was on them, and the sign of my house; I never had sold any with my name and sign on them; I saw the pots with the prisoner in Gore-street, about half an hour after. The patrole has the pots, his name is Manning.

Prisoner. Was there a pot there among them that was not your's? - There was one pot on the strap that was not mine.


I am one of the patroles under the direction of Sir Sampson Wright; nearly about six o'clock on Wednesday night I saw the prisoner at the bar carrying a strap of pots over his shoulder; I followed him from nearly the end of Great Queen-street that come into Drury-lane, up into Lewkener's-lane, and he went on about ten yards, and there I asked him where he had brought them pots from? he said, he was taking of them for his master; I asked him what his master's name was; and he could not tell me; I asked him where his master lived; he said, he keeps the Bull's head lower down in the same street, and if I was to go with him he would shew me the place; a soldier coming by I commanded him in the King's name to aid and abet; we brought him from there to a house in Drury-lane, and I saw that the Cross keys, Long-acre, was on the pots; I took him then into the first public house, Drury-lane; after we came down Lewkener's-lane we took him into a coal shed, he began to be fractious then, and then he drew this knife in the coal shed and opened it, and he damned his bloody eyes and limbs if he did not cut my bloody melt out; and at making to cut me he cut the soldier that was aiding and abetting me; and he cut him in two places; it was in my taking the knife out of his hand that in aiming to cut me he cut the soldier; we took him at last to the Brown bear; he was carried that night before the magistrate; I got the pots from the Brown bear this morning; I marked some of them when I left them there.

Prisoner. Pray when you laid hold of me first did not you take my hat away and knocked me down with a stick? - I did not knock him down with a stick; I did not take his hat away; I never struck him; at the time the soldier and me were bringing him along, one of his shoes slipped off and his hat fell off.


I am a soldier in the third regiment of foot guards; Manning called on me to assist him in Lewkener's-lane; I saw nobody except the prisoner and Manning; I met the prisoner first and then Manning, and he ordered me to assist him in the King's name; I did, to the best of my power, we took him to a public house in Drury-lane, and there we looked at the pots, we took him then to a coal shed, the corner of Carter-lane; I went with him to Bow-street, and he was committed, and the prosecutor came there to claim the pots; the pots were left at the Brown bear. (The pots deposed to.)

Q. Did he make use of any knife? - He was striking the patrole, with that he cut me on the back of my hand.

Prisoner. I was coming down Drury-lane and I met a man with these pots, and he said, his pot boy was gone away and if I would carry them to the Bull's head in Lewkener's-lane he would give me 6 d. and that man would not let me go with them, and he would not go along with me; as to drawing my knife I never drew it at all, it is not my knife.

GUILTY . (Aged 28.)

Court. Prisoner it is necessary to make examples of men who conduct themselves as you have done; the sentence of the court upon you, therefore is, that you be transported for seven years , to pass beyond the seas to such place as his Majesty, with the advice of his Privy council, shall see fit to declare and appoint.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-49

169. JOHN GARDINER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 24th of December, twenty-four pounds weight of beef and mutton fat , the goods of West Thimbleby .


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-50

170. THOMAS ELLIOTT was indicted for feloniously stealing on the 15th of December , a pewter quart pot, value 1 s. a pewter pint pot, value 6 d. the goods of John Smith .


I keep the Cock ale house , Snow-hill ; I cannot tell how I missed the pots; I can tell how I took them; the prisoner was in my house about three quarters of an hour before he was brought back.


I am a soldier in the third regiment of foot guards, a private; I saw the prisoner at my quarters with the pots, on Saturday the 15th of December, at the Horse shoe and Magpye, Middle-row, Holborn; I never saw him before in my life till that time; I suppose he came about seven o'clock, or there abouts; he was in the tap room; he began to be obstreperous in the house, and he dropped some pots; I went with him to Mr. Smith, and there was one pint pot and a quart pot produced to Mr. Smith; but I cannot tell who produced them; he said, they were his property; but I cannot say that he said the prisoner stole them; I know nothing more except there was a scuffle ensued in bringing him along, and there was a pint pot found at my landlord's, it was found after I was escorting the man home to Mr. Smith's; how that pint pot came there at his side I don't know.


I am a painter by trade; the prisoner came into the house with a view to have

something to drink, it was at the Horse shoe, Middle-row; but whether he had or had not I know not; I heard somebody call for a pint, but whether it was him or no I cannot say; he moved himself from the place where he first seated himself down, to an upper box, and afterwards he seated himself at the lower end; by moving himself this quart pot fell out of his apron, the pot fell down, I catched it on the road; I took it up and asked him how that pot came there? he damned my eyes, and said, it was one of my pots, thinking I was the landlord of the house; I told him it was a mistake, and he threatened to strike me; now, says I, if I find you are a pot stealer I will not let you go; the soldier came up and asked what was the matter; says I, this man is a pot stealer; says the soldier, he shall not affront you; we took him away to where the pot directed, and in the scuffle the pint pot dropped from him afterward.

Q. Did the pot go with him? - I took neither him nor the pot, the young woman picked it up afterward, and the quart pot the soldier took to Mr. Smith's house.

Court to Ewer. Did you carry a quart pot there? - I did not carry the quart pot there; but I was along with the people that did; who did carry it I cannot say, for there was a good many of us.

Court to Cadwell. Did you deliver the pot to the soldier? - I did.

Court to Ewer. Did you receive the pot of Mr. Cadwell? - I did not; I saw another man receive it, and I saw it carried to Mr. Smith, and it was the same pot.

Court to Cadwell. What was the name on the pot? - Smith.

Q. What was the sign? - The sign of the cook.

Court to Smith. Was you at home when these people came? - I was at home when the prisoner first came.

Q. How long was the prisoner at your house that day? - He had been about three quarters of an hour from the time they brought him back.

Q. Did you see a pot at that time? - No.

Q. Now when the pot was brought back how do you know that quart pot was your's? - I know it by my own name, and I know it by my own sign.

Q. How long have you been a publican? - Many years; the man confessed to myself in Gaol; when I took him to the compter he cried and said, it was the first time he ever did such a thing in his life; I desired him to confess it.

Prisoner. I never saw the pot, it was taken from under the table, I kicked my foot rather against it, this gentleman took it up and looked at it and said, it did not belong to the house, I must have brought it in; I never saw the pot till it was taken from under the table; I work with my father at carpentering.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-51

171. GEORGE JACKSON was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 31st of December , one Beaver hat, value 8 s. the goods of James Wilkinson .

- WILKINSON sworn.

My husband is a journeyman hatter ; it was a hat that came to be done up; my husband is answerable for it; I had it going to have it finished; I was in Whitechapel going to my husband's shop where he works, to have an iron put to it in order to finish it, for the sake of the 18 d. coming along two young men stopped and looked me right in the face, they continued following me and whispering at every light they came to; they passed and looked at me before and behind, they looked at me at every window; when I came to the end of

Castle-street the prisoner made a snatch and ran, this was at the corner of Castle-street, Houndsditch; the hat had been put in shape and I had my hand in the crown; I continued crying stop thief! he had taken it out of my hand; this was about a quarter before seven in the evening, on Monday the last day of the old year; there were lamps all the way.

Q. What did he do with the hat when he was pursued? - I don't know.

Q. Did you loose sight of him? - I did just as he was taken, then the mob came round; the hat has never been found.

Q. From the time you saw him in Whitechapel till the time he was taken, did you observe him enough to see that he was the man? - I have no doubt at all about it.


I am an officer of the patrole of Bishopsgate; I happened to be talking to a brother officer, and I heard the cry of stop thief! and by the light of the lamps I saw some people running, and seeing the person run from where I heard the voice come of stop thief, I went in search of the hat, but never found it; the woman came up soon after; she seemed much frightened, at that time she was not positive to his person; but the next day she positively swore to him, taking more particular notice.

Q. Did she say that at any time before she was at the hearing? - She did at different places where we were together.


I am a linen draper. On Monday the 31st of December I was going across Castle-street, I heard the cry of stop thief! the prisoner came past me, and I immediately pursued him, and I saw the constable stop him; I kept in sight all the way, and the woman came up immediately, he ran much faster than she; she said, she had lost a hat; we went back to look for it, but could not find it, it was not found at all; I don't recollect the prisoner said any thing only that he had not got it.


I am an officer of Bishopsgate ward; I heard the call of stop thief! and I assisted in stopping the prisoner; I saw him taken, the hat has never been found, the woman said at first she could not swear to the man, she was so much frightened she could not tell me; I searched him and found nothing at all upon him; I carried him to the watch-house, and they were about ten minutes there together; I found another hat there on him which was not this person's property; I kept him on the charge of Mr. Twydell.

Q. I would wish to know whether this man was taken to the compter on the charge of this woman or any other charge? - I took him rather on the charge of Mr. Twydell, because he saw him run with the hat in his hand.

Twydell. He had something in his hand when he passed me; I cannot swear it to be that hat.

Court to Whitehead. The woman seemed very much frightened, and not positive to the man; I ask you this at the time that this man was taken up was he taken to the Compter for the charge of this woman, or for the other hat? - For the hat which the woman had lost; she said, she would not be positive, but she believed him to be the person.

Prisoner. I know nothing at all about it; I never was in trouble before in my life; I was coming home from my work; I had been and earned a shilling and fetched that hat out of pawn which the gentleman took away from me.

Court to Prosecutrix. How happens it you was more positive the next day than

the day before? - I could not give charge; I said at the watch-house that the prisoner was the man, but I would not give charge.

Court to Satwell. Your evidence was that she would not swear to the man? - I asked her in the watch-house if she knew the man; she said, she did not.

Q. Did she swear to the man? - Not till the next day, I don't recollect that she did that evening.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-52

172. THOMAS WILSON was indicted for that he, on the 6th of October in the parish of St. Mildred in the Poultry , had in his custody and possession, a certain piece of parchment wherein was printed and written, a certain writ of our lord the King, called a latitat, which said writ purported to be duly issued from our lord the King, against a certain person whose name is as yet unknown, and John Doe at the suit of a certain other person, whose name or names are unknown, in a plea of trespass, in which said piece of parchment, in pursuance of the statute in such case made and provided, there had been made a certain stamp, and affixed to the said piece of parchment; wherein was inserted six-pence, six-pence, sixpence, six-pence and six-pence, then payable to our lord the King, by virtue of the statute in that case made and provided, on which any writ of latitat shall be engrossed and written, which was denoted to be duly paid in pursuance of the statute in such case made and provided; and he afterwards, on the 6th of October and in the same parish, unlawfully, fraudulently and feloniously did erase and scrape, and caused to be erased and scraped out, the names of the said persons so as aforesaid, then written in the said writ of our lord the King called a latitat, as yet unknown, with intent to use the said stamp for a certain other writ of our lord the King, called a latitat against Thomas Crosfield and John Doe , in a suit for 40 l. the said several debts of six-pence, six-pence, six-pence, six-pence and six-pence being then due and payable to our said lord the King, in respect to the last mentioned suit against the peace of our lord the King, and against the form of the statute .

(The case was opened by - )


I am clerk at the Secretary's office; this is the original writ against Crosfield at the suit of Clowes.

Mr. Knowlys, Prisoner's Counsel. I believe you have known the prisoner Wilson for some time? - I never heard any thing against him till this.


This writ was brought to me by a young man; I delivered it to John Atkins , and he brought me a warrant down; I went to the King's head in Wood-street, there I found the defendant Crosfield in custody with the bail and Mr. Wilson, Mr. Wilson wished me to execute the writ; but I objected to do it, because he was in custody of his bail. In some other transactions we went to Mr. Wilson, and Mr. Wilson expressly wished me to execute that warrant; I objected to executing the writ because Mr. Clowes, the plaintiff in the writ, was one of the bail in the former transaction, and it was by his consent that I should not execute that writ; that he said in the hearing of the prisoner Wilson.

Q. What did Mr. Wilson say? - He did not say any thing than that he desired me to execute it; I did not execute it, I took it away with me and left the defendant

in custody of his bail; there was much conversation about it, but I thought it not proper to execute it; I recommended the bail to take the defendant Crosfield into Middlesex. In about half an hour after the bail brought the defendant Crosfield to my house, and Mr. Wilson was with them; the bail stayed with me till about eleven, and they left the defendant; I conceived it to be on this writ, Mr. Wilson went away in the coach with them, Mr. Wilson did not stop at all; I detained him on this transaction.

Mr. Knowlys. What time was it they came first to your house? - About six or seven o'clock.

Q. In point of fact, the office shuts at six o'clock? - The secondary office shuts at six o'clock.


I received that writ from a young lad that brought it from Vincent; I went up to the office and got a warrant on it.


I am an attorney; on the 6th of October was the first time I gained any knowledge on this subject; on the 6th of October Captain Coffin called at my house, and went to Vincent's; I went there to act for the benefit of Crosfield; I desired to see the warrant which held him, and made a search on the day following.

Q. Did you find that any such process had regularly issued? - There had not; I could find no traces that any writ had issued at that time; I could find no traces of it at any office; there was no writ issued on the 6th, nor no affidavit on the 6th that I could find.

Mr. Knowlys. You being an attorney and acting for Crosfield, you knew that he left his bail in the lurch. Do you know whether his bail had laid hold of him? - I did not know any thing of the circumstance.

Q. Was it unknown to you that bail had been given to the amount of 200 l. was it not known to you? - I saw that there was some bail for 130 l.

Q. You made no search whatever till the Tuesday; in point of fact, you found that a writ had been issued on Monday, and a regular affidavit, and another on Wednesday for the same purpose and effect; who appeared to be the attorney? - Peregrine Palmer .


I am the under sheriff; in consequence of Mr. Coombe's application to the sheriff, complaining that a man had been detained illegally, I took a good deal of pains, and found that Mr. Wilson, the prisoner, issued out the writ; I went to him, and told him that a complaint had been made to the sheriffs, that Dr. Crosfield was detained illegally; that I had been at the office and seen the writ, and it was full of erazures; that I had applied to the plaintiff, who had directed me to him, Mr. Wilson; the plaintiff was Mr. Clowes; I desired him to explain how the writ came to be so full of erazures; he said it was a mistake of his, but he had rectified that on Monday; I asked him what that mistake was, he said the man was in the custody of his bail, and he did not wish the bail to be detained all night, and the government was not defrauded; he told me he had made use of another writ, and had altered the writ; that there was a real writ issued on Monday, and therefore the government was not defrauded. This was on the 11th that he told me this, that the government did not suffer, for there was another writ sued out on Monday.

Mr. Knowlys. This was in consequence of a complaint made to you by Mr. Coombe? - It was.

Q. This was on the Saturday after? - It was.


I am the sealer to the writs; I have an account of the writs I sealed on the fourth and sixth of October.

Q Look on the sixth. Did you on the sixth seal any writ in which Peregrine Palmer was the attorney? - No, for we always enter the attorney's name.

Q. Now turn to the 4th. - There are two sealed of the name of Willey, to whom Mr. Wilson is clerk, but none in Mr. Palmer's name.

Q. Then there was none sealed with the name of P. Palmer on either of the two days? - There was not.

Q. Look at this writ. - This writ appears to be sealed on the 4th of October.

Q. On the 4th of October there is none of P. Palmer's. - But this was sealed the 4th and Mr. Willey had two writs that day; the name of the attorney is erased out in this writ; there never passes such a writ as this at the office; to this the name, not only of the attorney, but also of the defendant and plaintiff, has all been erased out. On the 8th Mr. Palmer had a writ sealed, and brought by Mr. Wilson, who is clerk to Mr. Willey.

Mr. Knowlys. How early on Monday morning was this writ issued? - At a quarter after ten; the office opens at ten precisely.


I am the signer of the writs. I have got my Praecipe of the 6th of October; I have no praecipe in which Palmer is the attorney, or of which Crosfield is the defendant, on the 6th.

Q. Have you on the 4th? - I have a praecipe in the name of Willey.

Q. Have you, on that day in which P. Palmer is the attorney, any praecipe which correspond with the sealer's account of writs of Mr. Willey? - I have one on the 4th and not any on the 6th.

Q. Did you find any praecipe on the 8th for which P. Palmer is the attorney? - I have one on the 8th; I have a praecipe which is the warrant to this writ, together with the affidavit sworn with me on the 8th.

Q. Who brought the affidavit? - Mr. Wilson. The jurat was dated the 6th; it was not the proper day; I altered it to the true pay.

Q. What was the date of the praecipe? - The 6th.

Q. Have you any praecipe corresponding with this writ on the 11th? - I have one on the 11th, P. Palmer attorney, against the said defendant and by the said plaintiff, and a fresh affidavit sworn before me, on the 11th; that on the 8th was for Mr. Wilson, that on the 11th was for Mr. Palmer.

Mr. Knowlys. I think your office shuts at six o'clock? - It does.

Q. Any person coming after six would be too late? - They might have it done after that time if they pay extraordinary.


I am the person employed to engrave the dies at the stamp office.

Q. Is that the impression of the stamp which was proper for the 6th of October, 1792? - It was.

Mr. Knowlys. It appears to me that this indictment does not describe that which in law is a latitat.

Court. If your objection was of any force, it could produce no more than an arrest of judgment.

The prisoner called two witnesses, who gave him an excellent character.

GUILTY . (Aged 29.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

Reference Number: t17930109-53

173 WILLIAM HARYEY and SAMUEL WARD were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 27th of December , 36 trusses of hay, value 3 l. the goods of THOMAS WITHERS .

(The case was opened by Mr. Knowlys.)


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice BULLER.

Reference Number: t17930109-54

174. THOMAS GORE was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 24th of December , a wooden wheel-barrow, value 5 s. six feet of deal quartering, value 12 d. and twenty-nine earthen garden pots, value 2 s. the goods of RICHARD HAYNES .


I live at Edgware Road, Paddington ; I lost twenty-nine garden pots, on the 24th of December; they were taken from my garden in the night time, between Sunday and Monday; I did not find them; I was sent for on Monday the 24th to Marybone watch house, to go and look at my property; I was not at home; I came home about six or seven in the evening, and went down to the watch-house and saw the things, and knew them to be my property, as charged in the indictment; I cannot bring any thing myself against the prisoner.


About ten minutes before five in the morning, on the 24th of December, I was walking in Oxford-street, near Bird-street; there is a public house at the corner; under whose tap room window I saw this wheel barrow stand, with this piece of quartering laid across the barrow, covered up with a bit of old canvass, which gave me great suspicion that they could not be lawfully there at that time of the morning; with that the publican came out to undo the flap of the cellar window. I asked him if there was any body in that house that would own that barrow. I stopped there about a couple of minutes till I saw some body come out; the prisoner at the bar came out; I asked him how he came at that time of the morning to be with that barrow; he said he was sent by his master who was one Mr. Bell, who lived in Long-acre. I asked him when his master sent him, he told me that the night before his master ordered him to go at four o'clock in the morning. I asked him where he lived, he said he lived in Long-acre. I asked him at what time he left Long-acre, he said at four o'clock. I said my friend how came you to go so quick, to go up to Paddington and come all this way back, and he owned he had been a quarter of an hour in the public house; I then took him to the watch-house; I said he must go before the constable of the night; the constables of the night is here; and I took him to the justice's the same day; the bit of quartering and the garden pots are at the watch-house; the barrow is not here.

Q. What things did Haynes see at the watch-house? - He saw the wheel barrow, the two bits of quartering, and twenty-nine garden pots.


I was constable of the night; he was charged by Bates; I asked him how he came by that property, he said his master, Mr. Bell, had a house repairing at Paddington, and he had been at Long-acre for these things; says I, I will take charge of you for an hour and a half, if he would send any body to Mr. Bell and if he would come, I would not take him into custody.

Prisoner. I am very sorry I did do it; I porter for a gentleman the corner of Cranbourn Alley; it is a linen draper's shop; I am twenty-one.

Jury. We think he is in a state of insensibility.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice WILSON.

Reference Number: t17930109-55

175. JOSEPH STOKES and THOMAS WALKER were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 8th of January , a linen shirt, value 5 s. the goods of JOSHUA WALKER .


I lost a shirt on Tuesday last, the 8th of this month.


The prisoner at the bar brought the shirt to me on Tuesday night; he asked me five shillings, and as such I gave it him; his name is Joseph Stokes ; I should not have bought it but on condition that I thought he came honestly by it.


This is the shirt that I wore, I lost it the day before yesterday, Wednesday; I believe it was enquired for all over the shop, by the maid to wash it.

Prisoner Stokes. Tuesday night after I left work I saw this other prisoner and he had got this shirt under his arm, and he asked me if I would part with it for him, I told him I would; I went and sold it to that person for 5 s.

The prisoner Stokes called three witnesses to his character.

Prosecutor. Both the prisoners are servants of mine.

Both not GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice BULLER.

Reference Number: t17930109-56

176. JOHN PARROTT was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 1st of January , a linen shirt, value 3 s. a pair of worsted stockings, value 2 s. a linen night cap, value 1 s. a worsted night cap, value 6 d. and a linen handkerchief, value 4 d. the goods of James Cuff .


I am a shoemaker ; I am a lodger ; I lost a shirt, two pair of stockings, a linen night cap, a worsted night cap, and a linen handkerchief; I did not see the prisoner take them, but here is a witness that see him take them; I lost them from the Duke's Head, Tottenham-court road ; I left them under the seat in the house, I called for a pint of beer and went out to make water; I left them in the tap room; I suppose I missed them an hour and a half before I saw them; I missed them in a quarter of an hour, the patroles took up the thief with them; I found them in the watch-house; because I missed my things, there was a young fellow there that said he believed that this Parrott had taken them, and that he was gone there with it, and that the patroles had taken him to Drury-lane watch-house; I went to the watch-house and found my things; the prisoner was taken at the same time, the things were looked over, and has been in their custody ever since.


I am a patrole; I found this bundle in the prisoner's hand on the night of the first of January, as he came out of the public house between ten and eleven o'clock; he came out of the Duke's Head public house, I saw him come out with a pipe in his mouth at the same time.

Court to Cuff. What time was it you went into the public house? - About three quarters past nine.

Jury to Cuff. Did you see the prisoner in the public house? - I did.

Court to Fludd. When you stopped him with the bundle did you ask him to whom the bundle belonged? - I did, he said it belonged to himself; I asked him what was in it, he could not tell me; I carried him to St. Giles's watch-house, the prosecutor was not to be had, and the prisoner was discharged; the man was taken

up again, I met him, my partner and I we met the prosecutor, he asked if we were the people that took the prisoner; I had just parted with the prisoner, and he was in the Brown Bear , Broad St. Giles's, I went in after him and took him, and brought him out of the house; I then took him to the watch-house, the prosecutor came there and proved his property; I kept the property, here it is all that I found. (Deposed to.)

Jury to Fludd. You said you met the man coming out of the public house, do you mean the public house which the prosecutor has described, where he lost his property? - Yes, I met him coming out of the Duke's Head.

Prisoner. I have nothing to say.

GUILTY . (Aged 22.)

Imprisoned one month and publickly whipped .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-57

177. JOHN DINGLE was indicted for feloniously making an assault on the King's highway on Barnard Barnard on the 7th of January , and putting him in fear, and feloniously taking from his person, and against his will, 2 s. in silver, two halfpence, and a linen handkerchief, value 8 d. the goods of the said Barnard Barnard .


I am an old clothes man by trade , I was robbed last Monday between twelve and one o'clock, at the corner of Lewkener's-lane, Drury-lane , I was crying old clothes; the prisoner at the bar he and another they said old clothes man what have you got in your bag? I told them I had nothing; the prisoner was the man that said that; he says, damn your eyes I want to see what you have got in your bag; I have nothing at all, says I, then they wanted some money of me, he damned my eyes, and said, I want some money of you, that was his speech; I said, what shall I give you money for? immediately he put his left hand to my throat for to kill me, and he immediately put his right hand to my breeches and took out two shillings and a penny; the other man took no part in it at all; he put my hat down and gave me a knock on my head over my hat, and said, damn your eyes there's for you; I cried murder murder! he blocked my hat on this way, after that he then ran off. I went to Bow-street to get a warrant for the people; he did not take any things of me but two shillings and a penny, and an handkerchief; I went to Bow-street, but Bow-street was so full, so I went to Marlborough-street.

Q. Had you ever seen the prisoner before? - No, but I am sure he is the man that robbed me of my money, I am sure he is the man; I have no doubt about it.

Q. How long might be be about it? - I don't believe it was five minutes; he came with such a force that I was frightened out of my wits.

Q. Now if you was frightened out of you. wits, and as you was greatly alarmed you was less likely to know the man? - I am sure he is the man; the first time they came and called me down I took an oath of the man.

Q. Where did you find him? - In Lewkener's-lane, in a public house in the same street where I was robbed.

Q. When did you find him? - On Tuesday the next day, then he was apprehended, the officer is here, and I went in, he had a pint of beer, and I said directly, there is the man.

Q. When you went into the public house was any body there in the public

house besides the prisoner? - Yes, three or four, the prisoner was drinking a pint of beer by himself and smoaking a pipe; I said to the officer, there is your man; there was a good many in the room, but not with the prisoner.

Q. How came you to go into this public house? - I saw him go in after he had done the robbery.

Q. Why did not you go in then? - I did not like to go by it then because I was afraid I should be murdered.

Q. Was he examined by the officer in the public house? - No, he was carried to Marlborough-street and searched; I have never seen any of my property since it was lost.

Q. When had you seen your handkerchief before this? - Not two minutes.

Q. When had you seen your money? - The same moment; I had no more in my pocket than 2 s. 1 d.

Q. Your handkerchief and money was in two pockets; when had you looked at your money before you was robbed? - He opened my breeches pocket and took the money out.

Q. Did you see it in his hand? - I did not, I will not take a false oath.

Q. When in the course of that day had you occasion to change your money, or look at it. When did you put that money in your pocket? - Nine o'clock in the morning; I put it in as sure as I am a living man.

Q. How came you to know it was 2 s. 1 d.? - I put 2 s. in to buy things of the people that gave a call and a penny to spend.

Q. Had you breakfasted before you came out? - No.

Q. Did not you eat any thing in the course of that day? - No, none at all

Q. Have you ever prosecuted any body here at all before? - Yes, but not for my own robbery.

Q. Do you know what is the reward in this case? - No.

Q. Did not you ever hear of a reward in this case? - No, never upon my oath.

Q. How long have you lived in London? - Thirty years.

Q. On what prosecution was it you was in this court before? - For Mr. Cooke about a box coat.

Q. Have you been here thirty years in London and never heard of a reward for an highway robbery? - I never did.

Q. Did not the officer tell you any thing about it? - No, the officer never spoke good nor bad.

Q. Do you mean to swear that you never have been here as a prosecutor before? - No, never; I stopped the people with the box coat.

Prisoner. He says I was drinking a pint of beer in Parker's-lane. - It was in Lewkener's-lane.


I belong to the Bow-street office. I am constable at St. Clement's; he said he had got a warrant, but he could get nobody to serve it; he and I went up to a public house in Lewkener's lane, and he was smoaking a pipe, the first public house down, the sign I don't know; we went in first and the man was not there, about ten or eleven o'clock we went there again, in about an hour and a half after, and then the man was there smoaking his pipe; I told him after the first time he had better go his rounds and cry his clothes and then we would go up again; we went again, and there the man was smoaking his pipe. I knew him the moment I went into the house as soon as I came into the house, the prisoner was there, I told him to put his pipe down he must go with me; he was in the room at the edge of the bar, rather more in the tap room than in the passage; the room was full of men and women; I told him to put down that pipe and go with me; that was the first thing that passed.

Q. How long have you been a constable? - Three or four years.

Q. Where was the prosecutor? - The prosecutor was just gone in before.

Q. Did you say you are the man I want, or was it the prosecutor pointed out the man to you? - The prosecutor went in first, and when I went in I said, you are the man I want; I took him on the prosecutor's description.

Q. Did the prosecutor point him out to you, or had he given you such a description of him as you could have taken him without? - No, I could not have taken him without his description. He put his pipe down and came directly very quietly, he dropped it down.

Q. Did the prosecutor make any charge of what he had done? - Not to the best of my knowledge; he never said a word, he came as quietly as a lamb; I brought him down to Bow-street, and there I searched him, and I found a sixpence, a penny, two farthings, a knife, an old ragged handkerchief, it had been a neck handkerchief, two leather gloves and a woollen one; the prosecutor knew not of them; the prosecutor had said what kind of a man he was; but I should not have known him except he had been with me; he said, he had been very ill used by a man in a striped coat and green baize apron; he told me this before he saw him; when I saw him at first in the morning his face was red just under his eyes, where the blow had been; he said he had been ill used by a man in a green striped coat and a green baize apron; he said, it would be a charity to serve the warrant for him, for he had not a farthing in the world to bless himself with; but I understood it to be for an assault, and not for a robbery, he said nothing about the robbery till I got to Bow-street.

Q. Then you understood the man to say that he had been ill used and assaulted, and you did not understand him to speak of the robbery? - I did not, he gave an account of his being ill used at Sir Sampson Wright's door, about ten o'clock Tuesday morning; I did not understand it to be a robbery the first time, he mentioned it the second time that I went to the house for the prisoner, but I cannot swear he did the first.

Q. Then when you went to take him the first time you went to take him for an assault? - I did; I never had the warrant in my hand.

Q. When you went the second time what did you know of it? - I thought it was for the same till I got the warrant out into my hand; the warrant was for a robbery. (Produced.)

Q. During the whole of the time you was with him had you no talk about a reward? - I did not.

Q. Do you know whether this man has been in Court before? - I believe he has.

Prisoner. I wish to know whether the gentleman did not come and take me out of Parker's-lane, the Bleeding heart? - It was in Lewkener's-lane the first public house in the lane that I took him, on the left hand, the sign I don't know.

Q. You went twice into this public house? - I did, it was the first turning in Great Queen-street on the right hand and the public house is the first on the left hand.

Court to Prosecutor. Your warrant I see expresses John Dingle otherwise John Jones; how came you to know his name? - I took the warrant out in any name.

Q. Did you give a description of his person? - No.

Court to Beresford. When people come to your office to take up persons who are charged on information, and who may describe the person, but not know the name, do you fill up any name? - I never go out on any of them informations, I always understand a man can take up for a robbery without a warrant.

Court to Prosecutor. Was there any body by at this time? - No, my lord; a woman

cried for shame don't use the man ill.

Q. Did you try to find her? - No, I could not find her.

Jury. I think you said you was afraid of your life whenever you went down there? - I was, Gentlemen; I have stopped several robberies.

Court. Do you mean to say that you never was here but once? - I never was here in any prosecution of my own; I was in one robbery I stopped about eight years ago; I stopped the robbery then.

Q. Do you now on your oath undertake to say that you never was here as a witness but once? - But once.


I am a house keeper; I live at No. 76, Wardour-street, Soho; I have been there twenty-five years; I happened to be at Hicks's-hall yesterday, I went to file a bill against the two patroles of St. James's parish, Ivory and Miram; I am one of the constables of St. James's parish, it was between five and six last night, and I was waiting outside of the door of the grand Jury room, Clerkenwell; I don't know the prosecutor's name, the jew he was telling me that he had been robbed, and what business he was there upon; I heard the constable say, I took him in Lewkener's-lane, I knew where to go and prick for him.


Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-58

178. BARBARA BOWERS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 5th of January , a silk cloak, value 20 s. the goods of John Tyler and Thomas Laycock .


I am a pawnbroker , my partner's name is Thomas Laycock . On Saturday the fifth of January the prisoner came into my shop and asked to look at a black silk cloak; I took one out of the window and gave it her; she observed the shop was too dark to look at it, she would take it to the door; I did not take particular notice of her for the space of a minute till I was alarmed by some people in the shop that the woman had run away with the cloak; there was five or six in the shop at the time; I immediately ran round the counter to the door, and a young woman who was in the shop ran round with me; I observed she was four or five doors from my house, when she found she was pursued she turned into a pastry cook's shop; I followed her into the pastry cook's shop, and I found the cloak on her; she was walking when I first saw her, the cloak was tucked underneath two other cloaks which she had on; I charged her with stealing the cloak; she talked something, but I did not hear what; I opened her cloak and there I found it; this was after I had done charging her with it. I know it was my cloak by the paper that was on it of my own writing 1 l. 5 s. I can swear to it; I did not observe her to go out of the house.

MARY TILL sworn.

I am a servant; I was in the shop at this time of Mr. Tyler; I saw him give the woman a cloak; he was serving other customers at the time; he left her; I saw her looking at the cloak, and she went out of the door with it; I told him of it; I see her go out, and I said, there is the woman has gone with the cloak; I did not see where she put it.

Q. Did she walk or run? - She walked; I followed her, and she went into the pastry cook's shop; Mr. Tyler followed her there and took it from her, it was under her arm all of a heap.

Q. Did she say any thing at all about it? - No, she did not; Mr. Tyler took it from under her arm.

Prisoner. Did it not rain very hard? - Yes, it did


I am an headborough, and live facing Mr. Tyler; I saw Mr. Tyler take the cloak from her, from under her arm just as I got up, Mr. Tyler took it before I came, and I thought it proper for me to keep it. I never saw the woman before in my life.

Prisoner. I had been seeing a brother of mine that was come home from sea; I was got a drop of liquor, and there was a young woman standing at the window, says she, mother I want to buy a black silk cloak; she also said, she was ordered, as it was twelfth day, to buy a twelfth cake, and she would go in and buy one at the pastry cook's, say she, if you will come in with me I will go and look at it; I went in, the gentleman gave me the cloak out of the window, and I looked at it, the price of the cloak, as I thought he said, was 30 s. I went to the door and I saw that the young woman did not stand at the door, and I went to the pastry cook's, and it rained very hard, and I asked the pastry cook woman whether a young woman had not come in there to buy a bunn; and that is all as I expect mercy of God and you.

GUILTY . (Aged 39.)

Imprisoned three months and fined 1 s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-59

179. SARAH BROOKES was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 7th of January , a pair of womens stays, value 20 s. a black silk gown, value 20 s. five yards of printed cotton, value 15 s. and a linen napkin, value 1 s. the goods of Robert Loton , in his dwelling house .


I am a gardener ; I am an house keeper; this here person nursed my wife, she was nursing her when the things were stole; I lost a pair of womens stays, a black silk gown, five yards of printed cotton and a linen napkin; I cannot tell in what particular manner I lost them; I missed them the 7th of this month; she had been with me ten weeks, my wife has been keeping her bed. I have seen all of them at one pawnbroker's.


I live with Mr. Clarke the pawnbroker at Hampstead; the prisoner pawned the stays the 19th of December; I have no doubt about her person; I knew her very well; I have got a black gown and some cotton, pawned the 21st of November; the gown and cotton were pawned both together, and one duplicate for both; the linen napkin was to wrap the stays in and keep them clean; I have seen the prisoner three or four times; I know it is the same person; I am sure.

Q. Did you ask her whose they were? - We knew she got her bread by nursing; they were pawned in the name of Sarah Brooks , her own name.

Prisoner. I told you they were not mine. - I did not hear her say so as I recollect.


I am beadle and headborough in Hampstead; I know nothing more than Mr. Loton's coming with the warrant to apprehend the woman; nothing passed material.

(The things deposed to by Mr. Loton, the stays by giving 1 l. 15 s. for them himself, and the black silk gown by its being made rather old fashioned.)

Prisoner. I don't disown pledging these things. My master owed me a

sum of money, and when I was repaid I thought to replace them.

Prosecutor. She never applied to me for money, she always had money.

Prisoner to Prosecutor. Did not you make me run in debt for two or three, nay five weeks successively? - I gave you no such orders.

GUILTY of stealing to the value of 39 s.

Imprisoned three months and fined 1 s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-60

180. JOHN CROSS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 17th of December , twenty pounds weight of old iron, value 1 s. 8 d. the goods of Edward Brown .


I live at Hampstead; I lost some old iron the 17th of last December, on Tuesday; I had seen it two or three days before at my shop; the patrole, John Hawkins , brought it to me the same day, Tuesday, between the hour of six and seven; I cannot swear to it positively, one of my servants can, I believe it to be mine; this man had been a servant to me between two and three months.


I can swear that to be my master's property; this piece had been a bar to a window; John Hawkins brought it back the 17th, at night almost seven o'clock; that chimney bar is the only piece I can swear to, we had had it in the house about a fortnight before he had had it.

Q. What are the marks about it? - It had been along with the mortar; I should have known it twenty miles off, and immediately I should have said it was my master's bar.


I am the constable of Hampstead; the patrole brought the prisoner up to me with the iron, on the 17th about seven o'clock at night; I kept the iron.


I am a patrole; I found the prisoner with the iron near Chalk house-lane Inn, in Hampstead-road, he had it in a basket, he flung it across one bar and had it on his shoulder; I took him to Mr. Arn's and left the things and him there; the prisoner never escaped from me; I asked him where he was going; he said, to London; I asked him where he brought it from? he said, from Mr. Brown's at Hampstead, for the iron was not fit to use; he said, he had forgot the name of the street he was going to, it was near St. Giles's; he said he would leave the iron with me and fetch Mr. Brown; I told him I could not let him go; I took him up to Mr. Brown, as he had told me that Mr. Brown had ordered him to take it to London.

Prisoner. I put myself entirely on the mercy of the Judge and Jury; I leave myself entirely to this honourable court.

Court to Brown. Did you give him authority to take this away? - I did not, I was in London at the time

GUILTY . (Aged 50.)

Imprisoned six months and publickly whipped .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-61

181. WILLIAM EATON was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 29th of December , fifty pounds weight of lead, value 12 s. belonging to Job Hoare , affixed to a dwelling house of his , against the form of the statute.

JOB HOARE sworn.

I am a carpenter ; I have lost a piece of lead; I am building a new house in Church-lane; I cannot say that ever I saw it there.


I am a bricklayer; I did not see the prisoner take the lead; he is a slater by trade; I saw him at work on the same day, on the new house that is building belonging to Mr. Hoare, it was the 29th of December last Saturday; I saw the prisoner slating on the same building that day in the afternoon; at night between six and seven o'clock there was an alarm given that one of my men had stole a piece of lead, in consequence of that I ran out, me and several of us, we were in a public house, to the field were the building was in, in consequence of this I ran after the prisoner and another man that was his labourer; I passed this and ran on to the other, and stopped him and brought him back, and met this, and when I stopped him I asked him what he had got there? he had this piece of lead on his head tied up; I believe it cost about 12 s. I have kept that lead ever since; as soon as I stopped him it was taken off his head immediately; I gave him to the watchman. In going by the building some of the people asked him where he got it from? he said, damn you what is that to you, I bought it; with that his other partner said, no, he did not; this man would not reply any more, and I said immediately when I came to open the lead and look, that it was taken from over the shop house belonging to Mr. Hoare in Skinner's-fields, and immediately I went up to the house and felt, and found it was gone; it was dark, and immediately I gave charge of him to the watchman; I missed the lead from behind the chimney of the back gutter; the watchman took him to the watch-house; I brought the lead the next morning, and fitted it on to the place where it was taken from; it was exactly the quantity and the nail holes and all fitted, and the flap fitted, and what is beat up against the wall the flushing fitted; I have no doubt but it came from the place, the whole piece was taken away, it exactly fits the gutter.

Prisoner. You said that I was at work that day at the building; I never worked at the building in my life.

Court to Prosecutor. Did you go and see if the lead was missing? - I went up on the Monday following.

Prisoner. I was going to my master's to be paid my wages Saturday night; I was going down the London road, and on the road side I saw this lead and picked it up; I said to the young man that was with me, we will take it to the turnpike and see who owns it; I was going down and this gentleman took me and charged the patrole with us.

Court to Prosecutor. Are you satisfied that that man was on the building? - I am satisfied I saw him on the building; I am sure he is a slater.

GUILTY . (Aged 26.)

Transported for seven years .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-62

183. MARY GASHER was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 8th of January , a tin oil kettle, value 3 s. the goods of William Parker .


I am an oilman ; I lost on Tuesday last a tin kettle standing out at the door; I did not see the prisoner take it; I did not miss it till I was sent for to the office, between six and seven o'clock,

and I saw it there then; we make use of the kettle every day.


I am one of the officers belonging to Lambeth-street office, Whitechapel; I know no more than apprehending the prisoner, and the kettle was in his possession on Tuesday the 8th near on six o'clock in the evening; he said, he found it; he was in Wentworth-street just coming out of Catharine wheel-alley, near on two hundred yards from the prosecutor's, going from the house; the kettle was taken to the office and I have had it in my possession ever since; I knew he was not a lamp-lighter.

(The kettle produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. I was at the public house about ten minutes or a quarter before six; I went to the back door to ease myself, coming round a dark passage I kicked this kettle before me, I looked round to see what it was, and it was this kettle; I took it up, and this gentleman came and apprehended me; I never was guilty of any crime in all my infancy.


Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-63

184. THOMAS GRANT was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 7th of January , a canvas bag, value 6 d. one hundred pounds weight of pimento, value 4 l. the goods of Anthony Ponblank .


I am a warehouse keeper ; in consequence of being informed that the prisoner was apprehended with pimento, I took my stock of pimento, and found a bag deficient, this was last Tuesday morning between twelve and one, this pimento was kept in the warehouse; I found a bag deficient; I did not find any more deficient.


I am clerk to Mr. Ponblank; on Monday last the prisoner at the bar was at work in our warehouse, at about one o'clock on Monday he was at work, between three and four the prisoner at the bar went down twice, stopping rather longer than usual the second time I went down, I found the prisoner was coming up stairs; I took the keys and locked the door in the warehouse, the outer door; I went up again, and the prisoner at about half past four asked me to let him go out into Thames-street to receive a little money. The property was found on the prisoner in Tower-hill the next day; I never saw him no more that evening; I did not see any pimento was missing then; I went to the public house to enquire for the man to come to work; the man that keeps the house said that he was taken on Tower-hill with a bag of pimento on his back.


I am a constable; I met the prisoner on Tower-hill; I followed him and asked him where he was going to? he said, he was going to Stepney-causeway; I parted with him, and he went on a little farther into a cornchandler's shop, he carried it up to the upper end of the shop, and I went in and asked the man of the shop if he bought such things as these? he said, no; the prisoner was there, he said, it was odd for the man to bring it in there; with that I told the black man to take it up again, and I intended to take him to the magistrate, he brought it out of the shop and threw it down in the street knot and all, and ran away; I pursued him and took

him; I had sight of him all the way; I desired the man to take it into the same cornchandler's shop; I left it in the street; I saw it again in three minutes; it has been in my care from that time to this.

(Produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. Last Monday I was at work for this gentleman a little before dinner; I went down to go to dinner and went to the public house; after I had done my dinner I came out a little before four o'clock, I went up to see if Mr. Jackson was come from dinner, he was not; as I was coming down the lane, there was a gentleman standing up in the tail of a cart with the bag; says he, blacky do you want a job; says I, yes, but I have not got my knot; so I carried the bag into the public house till five o'clock; after that Mr. Jackson came from dinner, I went twice down and went backward, but I was not down three minutes any time; then I told him I had a little way to go, and by that time you have finished sewing these bags up, I will be back again, I told him I would be back in half an hour; he unlocked the door for me; when I came to the man, he says, my lad I have been waiting for you these ten minutes; says I, where am I to carry it to; to Stepney-causway, says he; what will you give me, says I; says he, 18 d. and he says, walk on it seems as if it would rain, and if it should, and you come to a grocer's shop in Rosemary-lane, pitch it down and stay there till I come; I went on and meant to pitch it there, and Mr. West came up and asked where I was going with the bag of pimento; I told him, I then stopped a while and did not see the man I had it of; I took the bag up and walked along a little, but did not see him, and did not notice the cornchandler's shop from the grocer's shop; I goes into the cornchandler's shop and throws it down; Mr. West made me take it up again; I thought it very hard to be taken with another man's property, so I thrown it down and made off, and he hallooed stop thief. I here is a good many can give me a character from the water side, but there is none here at present.

Prosecutor. On the whole he bears a very good character; I had a great opinion of him.

GUILTY. (Aged 52.)

Recommended to mercy.

Imprisoned six months and fined 1 s.

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-64

185. JAMES KINSMAN and JOHN DELMORE otherwise DELFORCE were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 13th of December , a cotton gown, value 5 s. two cloth coat sleeves, value 6 d. the goods of John Hayman .


I am a journeyman taylor ; I lost the articles in this indictment from No. 3, Crown-court, Temple-bar; I keep a small house; I did not see the prisoner take them; I lost them from the lower room, the ground floor, my parlour.


I am wife of John Hayman ; I lost the articles in the indictment from the ground floor in Crown-court, Temple-bar, it was the 13th of December that I missed them, I saw them there about half after four o'clock; I went out about half after four into Butcher-row, and returned about a quarter to five and missed the articles; they were loose in the parlour; I was out about a quarter of an hour, as nigh as I can recollect; I have never seen them since, nor recovered them.

Q. How came you to charge the prisoners with them? - I saw an advertisement in the paper the Sunday following, and I went to Mr. Conaway's; I did not see my property then, I saw it at the Hall on Monday following, I knew it to be my property; Mr. Conaway has kept it ever since.

Prisoner Delforce. They have took two guineas on account of settling the affair of my friends. - I never received any such thing.

Prisoner. My friends have gone after the witness that see it paid down.

Court to Mrs. Hayman. Have you had any conversation about this? - Both the boys mothers brought the money, but I did not receive it, nor my husband; two women came they said they were the boys mothers.

Court to John Hayman . Was any money brought to you? - No, sir, I was not at home.


I am one of the patroles of St. Sepulchres. On the 13th of December, I think Thursday, I will not be positive, I and my fellow servant, Carter, was going by the side of Fleet-market, he is a patrole the same as I am; I observed the two prisoners at the bar going by me, they were together, they passed us about a step or two; I observed the prisoner at the bar, Kinsman, to have something of a bundle in his hand; I directly turned back to him and said, Kinsman what have you got there? he told me he had got a gown and he was going to take it to his mother's; I asked him where he had brought it from? he told me from a young fellow in the market who was an apprentice in the market; I forgot his name now, and he was going to his mother, and he said afterwards, he was going to the apprentice's wife to to carry a pair of stockings, who lived just by Moorfields; I took him to the Compter directly on suspicion of its being stolen; I found besides in Kinsman's pocket a pair of coat sleeves, two sleeves; after I had taken them to the Compter I went to the mother, and I could not find the mother at home; from thence I went over to Moorfields to the place where he told me he was going to carry the stockings. The next day we had them before the Alderman; I did not advertise them till Saturday; Kinsman said first of all, that he had received them of Delforce; Delforce said nothing at all to that. On Sunday evening, according to advertisement, the prosecutor and prosecutrix came to my house, and brought a piece of the gown, and it matched. I have kept the things till now; they did not see the property till Monday.


I am a patrole; I was with Conaway; I have no more to say than what he said before.

(The things produced and deposed to.)

Court. I shall not call upon Delmore for his defence.


I am an hatter; I am an house keeper; I have nothing to say concerning the robbery; the night before last I went with the mothers of the two boys, to the prosecutor's; he wanted three guineas to make it up; they could not raise but two guineas; they said the patroles must have half a guinea a piece, and two guineas for ourselves; after much hesitation they went out to the door two times, and then they came in again, he would not take the two guineas himself, but another man did.

Court. I give you notice that you may be contradicted, and it is more than probable, almost certain you will be contradicted by people on their oath. To whom did pay these two guineas?

- I did not pay it the mothers paid it; they paid a guinea a piece.

Q. Did they pay together or separate? - Together.

Q. Which of them paid the money? - Elizabeth Brown paid one guinea to a man who was along with the prosecutor, and sat along with him.

Q. Is that man here? - I do not know.

Q. Do you know his name? - I don't know.

Q. Who paid the other guinea? - The mother of the other son Kinsman.

Q. To whom was the other guinea paid? - To the same man.

Q. Why was it not paid to the prosecutor? - The reason they assigned was that then they could not come on the prosecutor for damage, they could not hurt him for making it up.

Q. Who assigned that reason? - The man that received the money.

Q. Did they both agree to take it, Mr. and Mrs. Hayman? - Mrs. Hayman was there and set in the room.

Q. Did Mr. and Mrs. Hayman agree that the money should be paid in that manner, and for their account? - They did not say so to me.

Q. Can you swear that Mr. or Mrs. Hayman agreed that the man should receive the money for their use? - I cannot say that they did; the man made the proposition that the money should be paid to him; that was all that passed.

Q Was this man in the house when you went there? - He was.

Q. After he was paid the money did he give it over to Mrs. Hayman? - Not while we stopped; the money was left in his hands.


I am the mother of Brown; for a whole week we were every night with the patroles; we were a week up and down about after the patroles; we met with the patroles at the watch-house every night that we came out; the patroles were nothing concerned in the money, it was left to Mr. Hayman to make it up with what money he could get.

Q. Did you make any offer of compromise to the patroles? - No.

Q. Where the patroles present when you made it to other people? - They were; but they went away when we went to talk about the money, they said they must not then be seen.

Q. What was the day the last witness speaks of? - It was the night before last; Mr. and Mrs. Hayman wanted three guineas; I conversed with them both on my oath.

Q. Did they mention the sum or you? - They mentioned the sum, Mr. Hayman and Mrs. Hayman both together, at the time that the three guineas were mentioned; the night before last Mr. Oates was with us, we took him as a witness, there was present myself, the prosecutor, Mr. Hayman, Mrs. Kinsman and another man, I don't know his name, he lodges at the house, he was there every time we met; they went out two or three times this man that received the money and the prosecutor, and came back and said, they would not make it up without three guineas; Hayman went out and his lodger; we told them they must do as they would; we parted that night and we went back again and told them that we had made away with the things off our backs to make the guinea a piece, then the prosecutor said, you must go and make another half guinea; we had only got out at the door before we returned and told him we could make no more; and then he whispered to his wife, and called out to his wife to the door; the prosecutor came back and said, it must be half a guinea more for them, for the patroles would have a guinea, and he must have a guinea and a half, I said it

does not signify going away, they are fatherless children both of them; so he called his wife out of the room, we were in the room set down again, and they were out the value of ten minutes, and they went out, the prosecutor, his wife, and the man, to consult whether they would take the two guineas or not, then they came in again all three, and the wife set down and the man set down; I says to this gentleman, I hope, says I, you will have mercy, I will pay you the guinea, the same as the other woman, the man said, you must pay me the money, for he must not take the money, for it is felony compounding, or something of that sort, then sir, said I, there is mine, and the other woman got up, and said, there is mine, and we came away.

Court to Hayman. Did you take any money at all? - I took no money at all.

Q. Will you sware that no money was offered to you directly or indirectly? Did you or did you not refuse the money? - I never received any money.

Q. Is it not true what these people have all sworn concerning taking the money? - I never employed any person to take the money for me.

Q. On what account was this money paid? - I did not consent it should be paid to me, I know nothing of the man being in the passage; I have no such man lodger in my house, I went into the passage with a man, but I did not go into the passage with a lodger.

Q. Did you and your wife go into the passage or not? - We did.

Q. Do you swear that no man went out of the room with you and your wife. - There were three went out of the room into the passage. The man is not here at present, but he is not a lodger of mine.

Q Now what did you three go out for? - To consult about business of our own.

Q. Do you mean to swear that after all these people have sworn that you went out of the room and that you had no conversation about the compromise? Will you swear that when you went out with your wife and that man, you did not go out and talk about this business? - No, I don't know that any thing passed about this business.

Q. The money was mentioned. Do you deny that what these people say is true? - I deny that.

Q. You still insist on it that the man that received that money did not receive it for making up the felony? - I am sure I don't know what money was left in that man's hands. They offered me money to soften the affair and not to bring the indictment on capitally; for to soften the matter as much as I could.

Q. Was that money offered to you for that? - They said they would make me any satisfaction I required; I told them I required no satisfaction at all.

Q. What was the money paid for? - I don't know.

Q. Have you ever received it? - No.

Q. What was the person's name that did receive it? - John Enricker , he is a person who is backward and forward at my house.

Q. You still insist that when you three went out you did not agree that that man should receive the money? - I did not.

Q. And you still insist that you have not received the two guineas? - I have not.

Court to Mrs. Hayman. Have you ever received the two guineas? - No, I have not.

Q. Did you see two guineas paid to the man? - I did not; I was very ill at the time and laying my head on the table.

Q. Do you believe the two guineas were not paid to the man? - I cannot say whether it was or was not.

Q. What was you conversing about when you all three went out? Was it not for the purpose of settling what sum it should be for to soften the matter? - I said to my husband, do not you have any thing to do with it; there was a few

words dropped; we stayed out about five minutes and went in again.

Q. It has been sworn this, the lodger said, you must pay the money to me, because it is compounding felony. Did you hear these words pass? - I did not.

Q. Will you swear they did not? - Yes.

Q. And that you never received the guineas? - Yes.


I am the mother of the other prisoner, I was present when these person were present with Mr. Henricker, and the mother of the other boy; I had been more than once with the prosecutor and his wife on this business, a week or thereabouts before the last time we met; he desired us to make up three guineas we could not, and that man's brother I think it is, he called him brother, took two guineas.

Prosecutor. I have no brother living.

Court to Mrs. Kingsman. What was the money to be given to him for? - That they should not lay hard against the boys, the man and his wife and the other man went out of the room; the other man was the man he called brother; they stayed out for the space of a quarter of an hour backward and forward and when they came in there was no farther conversation, they took up the two guineas, the man that he called his brother took it up.

Q. Did the other man that he called his brother say any thing before he took it? - They were to have one guinea, to settle their property and the two patroles were to have half a guinea a piece.

Q. Who was the bargain made with, was it made with Mr. Hayman and his wife? - It was.

Q. They were to have their property, and have a guinea? - They agreed to take a guinea.

Q. Where was this? - In their own house; they took it up after they came back again from the passage, that man did that he called brother; they both agreed together to take it; they told me they did.

Q. Do you mean to swear that when they came back, Mr. and Mrs. Hayman they agreed to take it? - They did, I sware that.

Q. To whom was the two guineas paid? - I paid one guinea down and the other party put her guinea down; the man who she called brother took the money up.

Q. The brother did not say why he was to take the money? - He did not.

Q. Did you see him give it over to Hayman or his wife? - The man took it up, but I did not see further because we went out of the doors afterwards.

James Kingsman

GUILTY . (Aged 15.)

Imprisoned twelve months and publickly whipped .

John Delmore , Not GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17930109-65

183. EDWARD MANUEL was indicted for feloniously stealing on the 22d of December , a cloth coat, value 2 s. the goods of John Scott .


I live at Bell wharf Shadwell , I am a mariner ; I lodge at Mr. Wallis's at the Bell, he is a victualler; on the 22d of December I lost a cloth coat between five and six; this Edward Manuel had

been up stairs, and some of the people of the house apprehended him with the coat; he was stopped by Henry Martin ; my coat before I lost it was in my own room, in Wallis's house; I left it there that same morning, the prisoner had slept two nights before there; I came home about six o'clock, and some person had apprehended this man; and they made an enquiry whether I had left a coat, I went and pursued the man and took him up before a magistrate; and he confessed he took the coat; I did not make any promise; the coat was left at Henry Martin 's, he is a victualler at King James's stairs, I went there and found it there; I know nothing more of my own knowledge.


I am a victualler; I live at King James's stairs Shadwell; about a quarter of a mile from Bell wharf; Manuel called at my house about half after six or thereabouts and desired I would put the coat by for him a few minutes, and he would call for it again in the course of an hour or an hour and a half; the man where he lodged came to my house and asked if a man had not left a coat with me, I told him yes; I brought it to him, and it proved to be the prosecutor's coat. (Produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. I am not right in my head, I don't know what I do; there is nobody near here that belongs to me for four hundred miles.


Imprisoned three months and fined 1 s.

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.

Reference Number: t17930109-66

184. THOMAS GORE was indicted for feloniously stealing on the 1st of November , three pair of leather boot legs, value 12 s. the goods of Oliver Owen and William Cartwright .


I am a currier ; I live in Mercer-street, Long-acre; my partner's name is William Cartwright ; the prisoner was employed occasionally to carry out parcels; on the 1st of November, Mr. Read who is a master currier sent for me, and told me he wanted to speak to me. These legs were taken from our house in an unfinished state, nearly finished but not quite; one pair of them was taken to Mr. Read's and he was asked whether he could do any thing to make them softer; I went down to Mr. Read's, and I saw they were our legs by the mark that is on them; knowing that we never sold legs in that state, that they must be stolen, I asked Mr. Read who left them there, he said one James Allen left them there; I went to Mr. Allen and asked him how he came by them legs, he told me he bought them and another of one Skillet the corner of Rose court; I went to Skillet, and he said he bought them of a man he did not know whom, nor where he lived; I asked him if he should know the man if he saw him, he said he should, I asked him to describe what kind of a person he was; I found at length he had them of Case, and Case had them of the prisoner at the bar; I know they are my property, and never sold to any body; neither to curriers or shoemakers. This man had worked for me nine or ten months off and on, when we wanted him we sent for him.


I am a currier, No. 17, Bear-street, Clare-market; Mr. Allen, being a customer of mine, he asked me if I would

clean him a pair of legs, he brought them to me, and I see they were in an unfinished state; I thought they were not come honestly by, so I sent for Mr. Owen, knowing the mark of the legs.


I am a boot-closer; journeyman to Mr. Heather, Duke-street, Lincoln's-inn-fields, I bought them of Mr. Skillet, he came to me, and asked me, if I wanted a pair of boot legs; Skillet is a shoemaker, I gave 5 s. for the two pair.


I am a shoemaker in Drury-lane; I keep a stall; I bought these boot legs of Mr. Case, I had them in exchange, I was to make him a pair of shoes, and I was to have that two pair for making him a pair of shoes out of the other pair; I asked him how he came by them, he said, I need not to care, they were come honestly by.


I am a tin-plate-worker; I am a private workman; I got the legs of Thomas Gore ; he came one day in my absence, and said, will you let me leave this leather here; my daughter put it in the drawer; when I came home, I was told of it, and when he came, I asked him, what he did with them there.

Q. The question I ask you is, whether the same you received of the prisoner you gave to Skillet? - I did, I had no others at all, I know the prisoner, he lived under me some time, No. 12, Castle-street, St. Giles's, he laboured about for different people.

Q. Did it not strike you as an odd thing that he should have boots to sell? - I thought they were given him, and Mr. Skillet told me, they were damaged legs every one; they stunk with some stuff, and were all over mould; I did not ask him any questions about them. (Produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. I picked them up, and they were good for nothing when I had them, I thought so.

Case. The prisoner is simple, and goes by the name of Easy Tom.

GUILTY . (Aged 21.)

Imprisoned three months and publickly whipped .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.

Reference Number: t17930109-67

185. ANN TAYLOR , SOPHIA TAYLOR , and - SPARKES were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 3d of January , two cloth coats, value 2 l. 10 s. two muslin neckcloths, value 1 s. a silver watch, value 1 l. a watch spring, value 1 d. six tea spoons, value 6 d. a muslin cap, value 1 d. a linen cloth cap, value 1 d. a cotton gown, value 9 s. a muslin shawl, value 1 s. &c. the goods of Charles Silk , in his dwelling house .


I know nothing of the robbery myself; I live at No. 7, Middlesex-court, Drury-lane , my husband he prepares the plated work for the coach harness , we keep the house ourselves; on Thursday week, the 3 d. of January, I went out in the evening, as near as I can guess at six o'clock, I returned a little before seven, and I found the doors all open, when I went out I pulled the street door to, I did not lock it, we generally keep it locked, but I was only gone over the way, so I had only pulled it close; the things were taken out of the bed room; I locked the parlour door, the bed chamber joins to it,

the one comes into the other, that was not locked; there is no lock to it, that was opened, and all the drawers were opened; the parlour door and the bed room door was opened, and the property was taken out; there was very little left in; I lost to the amount of five guineas; there is found a great coat, and a waistcoat, which we believe to be ours, and a cap or two besides.

Mr. Garrow. You think these are your's, is there any body here who can swear to the property? - There is nobody but myself, that know any thing about the things; I have no marks on them, but by the looks of them, I think they are mine, but as to swearing - .


I am a pawnbroker, I live at No. 166, Drury-lane, I am a servant to Mr. Wooding; on the 3d of January, about eight o'clock in the evening, I took a coat and waistcoat in of the prisoner Sophia Taylor, I knew her before, I lent her a guinea and a half on them, she told me they were her husband's, I asked her whose they were; she lives, I believe with Mr. Sparkes, I have known her many years, I went to school with her, and her brother; she pawned them in the name of Taylor, that is her real name, I always took what she brought in that name, I knew her name so well.

Q. Did she often pledge things at your house? - Not very often, she had brought some trifling things of her own wearing apparel before this.

Mr. Garrow. As you have known her from her childhood, what was her character? - Always very good, as fair as ever I knew one.

Q. The mother gets her living by dealing in clothes? - I know that since this affair happened, but I did not know it before.


I am the conductor of the patrole under Sir Sampson Wright, and an officer likewise; last Saturday, by order of Mr. Bond, I went to search Mrs. Taylor's house, I believe it was the fifth, the house of Ann Taylor the mother, she went with me, her house is in Rose-street, Long-acre; and the prosecutor and I searched the house, and there was some wet linen there, and the prosecutor said, that among the other wet linen that was there, that this was his neckcloth, we came back to the office, she brought it over in her hand to the office, and the prosecutrix said, she thought it was her husband's, that is all I found.

Q. She was very ready to let you search? - She was, without a search warrant.


I am an officer; on last Saturday I was sent for down to Bow-street to take Sophia Taylor into custody; and informed that the pawnbroker had stopped her, I went there, and Mrs. Silk said, that is your prisoner; I asked where the duplicate was, Ann Taylor said, I have got the duplicate, I gave them to my daughter to pawn; I took them all down to Bow-street, I was ordered to go to the lodgings of Sophia Taylor , Drury-lane, No. 190. Mrs. Silk went with me, she told me when she came there, she had not got the key of the door, Mr. Sparkes was gone out with the key in his pocket; by all means, said she, break open the door, and the door was broke open by a smith, I pulled open the drawer, and in the drawer was this bit of ribbon, the gentlewoman said, it is my property, and on a chair was these caps, said she, that is mine, that is all I know about it. She sent for the smith herself, for she had not got the key.


I keep a cook's shop in Drury-lane, No. 190. I know nothing more than that Mr. Treadway came and searched the room; I let it to the prisoner within the bar, Sparkes, he lives there, and the young woman Sophia, they lived there, as man and wife, they had lived there a fortnight, and two or three days, I know no more.

Q. Do you know whether they were at home on Thursday? - I believe they were.

Q. Could they have gone out without going through your shop? - After dark they cannot, if they had gone out between six and eight I must have seen them; I have no other reasons to believe but they were at home.

Q. Do you know whether they were or were not? - I cannot positively say, I did not see either of them go out or come in.

Q. How lately had you seen them in the course of that day; I locked them and myself in at eleven o'clock at night.

Court to Mrs. Silk. Do you know that coat and waistcoat? - Yes, it is my husband's, by what I have seen of it, it is the same pattern; I really think it is, there is no particular mark, I think it is my husband's property; my husband's neckcloth was the same pattern, but mine had not two holes, the caps, I think they are mine, I had such like them in every respect, I made them, and I think they are mine.

Mr. Garrow. Mrs. Silk, you are inclined to think all the things are your's, but where the lives of all the prisoners are at stake you will not take on you to swear it? - Was there any particular marks I could swear.

Court to Charles Silk . Look at the coat and waistcoat. - I cannot positively swear to neither coat or waistcoat; they are very near like mine; I have had the coat about six weeks or two months; I cannot swear.

All three Not GUILTY .

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.

Reference Number: t17930109-68

186, THOMAS WILLIAMS was indicted for feloniously stealing on the 11th of January , twenty pounds weight of lead, value 3 s. the goods of William Rolfe .


I am a carpenter under Mr. Rolfe the builder ; I have been employed by Mr. Rolfe as a private watch to the buildings in Moorfields; Mr. Rolfe is a builder; yesterday morning before breakfast time, this man came out of a stable that Mr. Rolfe is building in Moorfields; he came so near that we saw the lead sticking out of his pocket; my son said to me, father, that man has got some lead there; we directly followed him, came up to him, and took him by the collar, and told him he had got some property there of my master's, and I found three pieces of lead in his pocket; we went directly to a constable in Chiswell-street, and gave charge of him; we compared the lead with the building, my son and the plumber did; it was a gutter that was taken up, it had been laid but a very little time. The lead was not laid in the gutter at the time it was taken. The man is a slater. I did not see it compared, I was with the prisoner.


I am son to the last witness, Samuel Trott; yesterday morning as we were at work, about half after seven, or between seven and eight, this man was coming

past and we see the lead sticking out of his pocket; we ran after him and took him, and took him to the constable; he came from out of the building; we gave charge to the constable and kept the lead in our possession, and we went and examined the lead; I compared it with another piece that was at a distance from the building and not taken off; there was a piece of lead remaining, about ten or twelve pounds, and he had twenty-two; he had three pieces.

(The lead deposed to.)

The three pieces exactly corresponding with the one piece found, except a piece which had been cut off from the side of one of the pieces since it was left at the public house, opposite the sessions house in the Old Bailey, the last night.

(The landlord sent for by order of the court.)

- sworn.

I keep the George in the Old Bailey; this lead has been in my custody; the prosecutor left it on the top of one of my butts last night; I never saw it or opened it; to the best of my knowledge it is as he left it; his father received it this morning, it was in a coarse bag, and no body goes into my cellar but me and my wife, and my lad. Mr. Rolfe is my landlord.

Prisoner. I leave my defence to my counsel.

The prisoner called three witnesses who gave him a good character.

GUILTY. (Aged 27.)

Recommended by the Jury.

Imprisoned three months and fined 1 s.

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.

Reference Number: t17930109-69

187. JACOB TIMON was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 8th of January , a copper tea kettle, value 2 s. 6 d. a piece of baize woollen cloth, value 6 d. a japanned quart mug, value 3 d. an earthen mug, value 2 d. two tin tinder boxes, value 2 d. the goods of John Perry , Esq .

In a second COUNT indicted for the same, laying it to be the property of Robert Heatley and Thomas Sharpells .

The Jury were half foreigners and half English.


(The Case was opened by Mr. Garrow.)


I am a servant to James Mather , Esq. we lay along side of the Neptune; this prisoner was cook on board the Eliza; the Eliza and Neptune are laid along side of Mr. Perry's wharf; I see the prisoner go across the binnacle on board the Neptune, and unlock the door and lock the door again, and then he went out of the ship.


I know of these articles being in the Neptune (as in the indictment;) all these things were in the cabbin; I saw them on Saturday evening on board the Eliza in the prisoner's chest; he went and opened it himself; he talked English that we could understand him pretty well; he said he had not been on board the Neptune at all, and at last he handed the things out of the chest himself; he begged and pleaded we would let him go, and he never would do so again if we would let him go; he said it was his first offence.


I was present when these things were found; Mr. Dean and John Terry were together; he at first strongly denied having them; I saw them found in his chest,

and he begged to be forgiven, and he never would do so no more.

(The things produced and deposed to.)

Prisoner. I found the things, and it was an unlucky event, for I never did such a thing before.

GUILTY . (Aged 20.)

Publickly Whipped

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.

Reference Number: t17930109-70

188. ROBERT GAINES was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 8th of January , 11 s. and a half crown , the monies of John Allvin .


I am a coachman , I live in Bishopsgate-street; I was out with the coach on Monday night last; after I had put my coach up I went to the watering house, and I went to sleep by the fire side; when I awoke, I was awaked by a friend in the house who told me I was being robbed; I put my hand in my pocket and my breeches were cut; I lost eleven shillings and a half crown piece out of it. William Skinner awaked me, and he had got hold of this man by the hand; I am sure I had it in my pocket when I went into the house; I was a little muddled, but I am sure I had my money in my left hand pocket. I know nothing of the man, he was in the yard a little before with me.


I am a coachman when in place, at present I am a waterman; the prisoner and the prosecutor that night was at the Queen's Head in Bishopsgate-street; I drawed the beer that night for my master, he being without a servant. I turned my back to the table and I heard the money rattle, I judge the prisoner might be doing naughty tricks, I turned round and takes hold of the prisoner's hand, and found ten shillings and nine pence in his hand; the man said he lost thirteen and six-pence.

Q. Was there any body near Allvin? - Yes, there were about four in the box.

Q. Was the other persons as near as the prisoner? - Yes, I think they were to the best of my knowledge, but I catched the money in his hand, and I surmized him being a man of a bad character; I did not see his hand in his pocket; the money in his hand was eight shillings and a half crown piece, and three pennyworth of halfpence; I think that is the man to the best of my knowledge; the officers has the money; I stopped the money and took the money from him; I thought it had come from the prosecutor; on account of his being a person of a suspicious character, I laid hold of his hand, he had no knife, nor was any about him on the ground.


I produce the money, ten shillings and nine pence, I had it from another officer, I received that money in a paper, but being so constant in my pocket it has worn the paper; the other officer, the person that gave it me, is not here.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.

Reference Number: t17930109-71

189. JOHN RILEY was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 10th of January , five leather saddles, value 40 s. and a leather bridle, value 6 s. the property of Apollo Jostin .


I am a stable keeper in Hart-street Cripplegate ; on Thursday evening I had a gentleman that came for his horse to ride; I went into the saddle room to look for his saddle and bridle; we looked about for some time and could not find it; says I, I will lend you a saddle aad bridle of mine, which I did, and away he went; after that says I to my foreman we must have a proper look to see if we can find this saddle and bridle, we could not find it. On Tuesday before that, there was a gentleman came to take a ride, and he said to my foreman, let me look at my old saddle, I have not seen it a good while, he looks at it and says, I will give you this saddle; so Thursday, after looking two or three hours, my man came to me to my door and knocked, and says, I have not seen that saddle the gentleman gave me, no says I, then if that is the case there must be somebody about the premises that has taken it and the other; we looked over and we found two or three other saddles missing; but before that, I must tell you, that I asked the prisoner on Thursday evening if he knew any thing of this saddle that was missing, he said he knew nothing about it; he was a servant to me, an hostler, had lived with me two or three months, or rather better; then on the evening of Thursday I challenged him very strongly and he denied it, before I went for the constable he denied every thing, and we had him into the saddle room and we challenged him very strictly, we had a long altercation, at last he owned to taking that saddle that the gentleman gave the man, and I asked him where it was, I made him no promise; I asked him what he had gone with it, says he, I have only taken that one, says he, it is underneath the manger at the further end of the nine stalls, well says I, come and let us go and see for it; the constable was present; then we went and he took the saddle out, and after that we took him and had him into the saddle room again; I told him he must naturally know where the others were, and he owned to the others, and told us where he sold them and where to find them; I think he sold three saddles to one Lund, a collar maker in Cow Cross, Windmill-street; and one saddle and bridle since; another saddle and bridle was found at the butcher's, where he had left it, who gave him a joint of meat upon it; Lund has been here but he is not now to be found for these two hours; Lund gave him five shillings for the one bridle and saddle, I suppose it is worth a guinea.

- MAITLAND sworn.

I am a constable, we went and searched for these saddles; after the prisoner acknowledged to them, we went and searched for them and found them; the prisoner acknowledged that he stole them and sold them.

Prisoner. Master said if I would tell him were they were he would let me go free.


Last Thursday night two officers of the city at ten o'clock asked me to go along with them, I went along with them to the prisoner where he lodged; after that we came down to Cow Cross and went to Mr. Lund's, and the prisoner said that was the man that bought the saddles of him; we then took him to the compter; afterwards we called at Matloes, a butcher, and asked him if he had a saddle, he said he had; we asked him how he came by it, he said he let him have a shoulder of mutton on it; and then we went to Long-lane and found another saddle, and the gentleman is here present that we took the saddle from; the saddle is not here that we found under the manger, that is left at home.

Prisoner. If you will be so kind as to forgive me this time I will never do so no more.

GUILTY (Aged 21.)

Imprisoned three months in Newgate and publickly whipped .

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.

Reference Number: t17930109-72

190. JOHN WATT was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 7th of January , two hundred pounds weight of copper, value 5 l. the goods and merchandize of Matthias Lucas , then being in a certain lighter of and belonging to him, on the navigable river of the Thames .


I am a lighterman ; I had a craft laying on the lower part of Porter's Key , across the Custom House Stairs, laying along side of the wharf, marked P. F. it was aground at the time I was speaking of. On Monday evening the 7th instant, between the hours of five and six, previous to my going home, I looked at this craft, I observed that every thing was safe, she was loaded with pigs of copper in her hold; I looked particularly at the lighter as is usual, when we have craft loading for going home, I observed the tarpauling to be hauled over the copper to prevent it from being seen, and the lighter laid in every respect perfectly safe; I further observed, that it was impossible for any person to have got into her without going through the mud; the craft had swam from under this lighter, nor were there any craft near her; there was no direct way to it without wading through the mud from Custom House Stairs; I was satisfied that every thing was safe as I could wish it, from standing out at the wharf directly over her. I went home, I had not been home above ten minutes or a quarter of an hour and was called out by Mr. John Bryant , who came and informed me the lighter had been robbed, that they had detected some persons, and some persons had run away, I immediately ran down Porter's Key, and observed two persons, William Waller and another lad, with a man whom they had got in the lighter, I requested to hold him fast, and I went down the yard two or three yards distant, and went to the end of a plank which they had put down from the boats to get down to the lighter, not choosing to wade through the mud, and there I desired they would pass the man on to me and I would take charge of him; I at that time told the lad of the name of Shuckford to take that pig of copper which was on the knee of the vessel and not to put it along with the rest, but chalk it so as I could identify it previous to his leaving the lighter; it was then too dark to observe the mark on the copper or the number thereof, I desired he would chalk it and keep it separate; I stood at the end of one of my boats and received him, he came along the plank and I conducted him ashore, he was muddy nearly up to his knees, it was then too dark to observe his person distinctly; I took him to a shop in Thames street for the sake of a light, I there looked at him and knew him very well; I left him in the care of a young man a lighterman, who was in the shop, and I thought I would endeavour to lay hold of any of the rest, or get a constable to take charge of this man, but I could not find any of the rest, I returned to the man and took him to the Poultry Compter, this is the man I am certain.

Prisoner. Did you see me touch it? - I did not


I am a waterman; on Monday evening between five and six o'clock I was standing on Porter's Key, I goes behind the bags of sugar, I had a few bales lying in the same lighter as Mr. Lucas's copper, I saw a man looking down under the tarpauling, I called out to some men to go and lay hold of him, and I ran to Mr. Lucas, I don't know who the man was.


I was called by John Bryant between the hours of five and six last Monday evening; I went over and saw a man in the lighter, on the lighter's head, which I walked over and asked what he did there? he seemed to be drunk, I laid hold of him, and I looked about the vessel and saw a pig of copper moved up as high as a man's breast out of the bottom of the lighter; there was nobody in the lighter then but myself; I saw no body else but him till I got into him.

Prisoner. Did you see me touch any thing belonging to the lighter? - I did not see the man touch the copper, it was dark and rain, that is the man I saw on board.


I saw a man standing at the lighter's head shamming drunk, I asked him what he was doing there, he said he was going to look after a pair of trowsers out of the mud, this was between five and six o'clock, I did not see him move the copper, but I saw it half way up the lighter.

Court. Was he drunk or sham drunk? - Sham drunk.

Prosecutor. He was not drunk when I took him to the compter, he was as sober as I am now.

- MASON sworn.

I put in the copper and I know it by the marks.

(Produced and deposed to.)


On Monday evening I was standing at Porter's Key, there was a parcel of suspicious persons standing at Custom House Key, I saw a man in the bottom of the lighter stooping as if he was moving the tarpauling, I know there were bales of skins in the lighter, I says to the man who went down, see if that man has cut the bales of skins, he said no, but here is a pig of copper on the lighter's knee; as soon as I called to William Waller the others ran away, the rest who were on the top of the stairs; the whole I believe was about six in number.

Prisoner. I know no more about the pig of copper than the child unborn. I went down to see after a pair of trowsers, the copper I never saw.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.

Reference Number: t17930109-73

RICHARD HORNER was indicted for obtaining goods under false pretences .


I am a servant to Mr. John Griffin on Ludgate-hill, he is an oil and colour-man; the prisoner, John Horner , came to our house the 26th of November, about six in the evening, and brought an order as from Mr. Ailwin for seven pounds weight of vermilion. (The order produced.) I am sure that is the man and that is the order I received of him; I asked him if he brought the order from Mr. Ailwin; he said, yes; I delivered him seven pounds and made him a bill of parcels of it in Mr. Ailwin's name; I don't know any thing more about it. (The note read by the clerk of the court, as follows:

Mr. Ailwin presents his compliments to Mr. Griffin, and will be obliged to him to send by the bearer, seven pounds of vermilion. November 26, 1792.)

Mr. Ailman did deal at our shop.


I am a melter and oilman; I live in Swan-yard, Blackman-street; I never saw him before to the best of my knowledge, he never was servant to me; I used to deal with Mr. Griffin in my way of business; I did not see the prisoner in November last; I know nothing of the note, it is not my hand writing, nor do I know whose it is.

Court to Fife. Do you know any thing of this man? - No, I never saw him till he came to our shop that night.

Prisoner. I have nothing to say; I have no friends in London; I am a druggist by trade; I came from Yorkshire, from Yarmouth.


Imprisoned six months and fined 1 s.

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. COMMON SERJEANT.

Reference Number: t17930109-74

JOHN COX was indicted for buying stolen goods of a person not convicted of stealing the said goods .


I am an ironmonger; I at various times have had iron nails stolen from me, and the man that stole them informed me that he had sold them to this man.

Court. That is not evidence. - There are goods of mine which I found in the prisoner's possession, on the 29th of November.

Mr. Garrow Do you charge him with receiving any other nails than those stolen by Ashburton who was convicted of stealing last sessions? - No.

Q. Are the nails which you charge the prisoner with receiving, a parcel of those nails stolen by Ashburton? - I presume they are.

Q. Ashburton has been already tried for stealing the nails from you? - Not these.

Q. Will you swear that 22,500 nails were found on Ashburton, for which he was convicted, besides those found on the prisoner? - That I positively swear.

Court. What did you do with the nails the 29th of November 1792? - I knew they were my nails by the writing on the paper, marked by my servant; at various times I missed nails and suspected nails were taken away, but I did not know by whom nor what with.

Q. Could you have sold these nails with these papers on them? - They were never sold, they were stolen out of my warehouse.

Q. How long before this 29th of November had you missed the nails? - I suspected loosing nails at various times; many parcels before that time. The nails are here, upwards of sixty pounds weight; I found them in a corner of the room where the prisoner resided, for when I went up with the officer to search the room, the prisoner was not at home; we went up stairs and saw his wife, she said, he was gone out with the cart and would be at home by two or three o'clock. The prisoner is a dealer in rags.

Mr. Garrow. He was not at home when you went? - He was not.

Q. Where these nails in the same packages in which they were taken from our warehouse? - They were, the papers never appeared to be opened.

Q. There is some written mark that was not attempted to be obliterated? - Not in any respect.


I am a constable belonging to Hatton-garden; I was ordered to go along with the prosecutor to get a search warrant, at Guildhall, to search Mr. Cox's house for some nails; I went with it and went up stairs, and found a bag with some nails up in the corner of the room, up one pair of stairs, and I went down stairs and I found a single paper; I found another paper below when Mr. Hattam was not with me, I found them in a cupboard under some old rags; when the prisoner came I took him to Guildhall; we stopped a good while before we came before the magistrate, and there the prisoner said, he would not mind giving a trifle if he could get the business settled.


I am a servant to Walter Hattam ; I got these nails from Cox; I was present with Mr. Hattam and brought all these nails from his house. (Produced and deposed to.)

Mr. Garrow addressed the Jury on the part of the defendant.


I was employed by Mr. Cox in picking rags; I remember I was working in the warehouse on the 28th of November last, there was a man came in at a door adjoining to the warehouse, and he asked if Mr. Cox was at home; he brought in a large parcel on his back, and another under his arm; and Iles, who worked with me, said Mr. Cox was not at home, but Mistress Cox was up stairs; he put down the little paper parcel, and the knot, and went up stairs and stayed there the value of ten minutes or a quarter of an hour, and he came down again and took away the little parcel, and in about a quarter of an hour he came back again with a parcel,

and asked if we had got any place he could put it, and he would call for it on Saturday; we told him there was a cupboard there that stood open, and he might put it in there; my master was not at home, we gave him leave; I had seen him before, but I did not know his name; I was here to appear on the behalf of Mr. Cox when Ashburton was tried; I will swear positively that my master was not at home for some time; I was at work the next day, while Mr. Hattam was there, and I believe they took the same parcels.

Court to Hattam. I understand that a man of the name of Ashburton is convicted? - He has been.

Q. Are these different goods? - They are clearly so.


I was at work with Purnell at Mr. Cox's between seven and eight o'clock in the evening; on the 28th of November a man came and asked if Mr. Cox was at home, I told him he was not; he went up stairs and came down again, and went out and in the course of four or five minutes; or it might be a quarter of an hour, he came and asked me to leave a parcel till Saturday, which was the next day, I told him he might put it in the cupboard, he did, and went away.

Mr. Garrow. Had your master any thing to do with leaving these things? - No more than any gentleman in the court, my master never saw them.


On the 28th of November, between eight and nine, Cox was with me in Bow church-yard, he came to me about eight or rather before eight, and he stayed with me for twenty minutes more or less; he was with me talking if I could go with him the next day to fetch a load of rags. I have known him six or seven years, I take him to be a very honest man.

The prisoner called two other witnesses who gave him a good character.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: o17930109-1

Thomas Radley and Henry Wild were put to the bar, and accepted his Majesty's pardon, on condition of transportation for the term of their natural lives; and John Casteldine on condition of transportation for seven years.

Reference Number: s17930109-1

The Trials being ended, the Court proceeded to pass Sentence, as follows:

Received sentence of Death. No.

Crawley Charles - 124

Field James - 126

Langford Sophia - 123

Martin John - 126

Ryan Owen - 138

Rowe John - 126

Spencer Joseph - 164

Townsend Sarah - 123

Received sentence of transportation for seven years, 32, viz.

Augustine, a mulatto - 142

Bailey John - 139

Condry John - 153

Eaton William - 181

Fin James - 134

Guy James - 132

Green Thomas - 168

Harbridge Coventry - 154

Jones Rowland - 157

Ireland William - 133

Langley John - 135

Morrison George - 131

Plate George - 146

Stanson John - 141

Sharp Richard Paine - 149

Sully William - 139

Taylor William - 130

Wilson Thomas - 172

To be imprisoned six months.

Richard Horner, and fined 1 s. - 193

Israel Jacob William Carter

and whipped - 144

William Trenfield William Jenks Mary Connolly Thomas Grant Sarah Brooks

and fined 1 s. - 147 - 148 166 - 183 - 179

John Cross James Kinsman

and whipped 180 184

To be imprisoned three months.

John Ryley John Brown William Hudson William Jackson

and whipped - 191 136 155 - 156

Edward Yarnell - 165

Barbara Bowers , and fined 1 s. - 178

Edward Manuel , and fined 1 s. - 185

Thomas Gore , and whipped - 186

Thomas Williams , and fined 1 s. - 188

To be imprisoned one month.

Mary Yarrell , and fined 1 s. - 151

William Stevens John Parrott

and whipped 160 176

To be whipped.

John Barber - 159

Jacob Timon - 189

Reference Number: s17930109-1

Thomas Radley and Henry Wild were put to the bar, and accepted his Majesty's pardon, on condition of transportation for the term of their natural lives; and John Casteldine on condition of transportation for seven years.

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