Old Bailey Proceedings, 12th January 1780.
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THE WHOLE PROCEEDINGS ON THE KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON; AND ALSO, The Gaol Delivery for the County of MIDDLESEX; HELD AT JUSTICE HALL in the OLD BAILEY, On Wednesday the 12th of January, 1780, and the following Days;


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KING's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery for the CITY of LONDON, &c.

BEFORE the Right Honourable BRACKLEY KENNET, LORD MAYOR of the City of London; the Right Honourable Sir JOHN SKYNNER , Knt. Lord Chief Baron of his Majesty's Court of Exchequer; The Honourable Sir WILLIAM HENRY ASHHURST, Knt. one of the Justices of his Majesty's Court of King's Bench; The Honourable Sir GEORGE NARES , Knt. one of the Justices of his Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; Mr. Serjeant ADAIR, Recorder; and others his Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer of the City of London and Justices of the Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City and County of Middlesex.

London Jury.

James Richardson

William Allison

Benjamin Parry

John Banfield

Joseph Page

William Wilton

Thomas Smith

Henry Shuttleworth

William Hoare

Isaac Ferret

William Felton

Thomas Goodwin .

First Middlesex Jury.

Henry Atkins

Silver Crispin

John Braithwaite

Nathaniel Morgan

Lawrence D'Rippe

David Fountaine *

* Edward Brown served part of the time in the stead of David Fountaine .

John Dowling

John Beckley

Edmund Smith

Humphry Simmonds

James White

Peter Brown .

Second Middlesex Jury.

John Smith

Philip Howell

Peter Johannott

Thomas Simpson

John Davis

Richard Jones

Edward Brown

James Wigg

Benjamin Banks

John Harrison

Philip Holland

John Bland .

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43. MARY DYER was indicted for stealing five linen sheets, value 15 s. and three tablecloths, value 21 s. the property of William Elbell , Dec. 15th .


I live at No. 7, in Great Suffolk-street, Charing-cross . On the 15th of December, at about two o'clock I went down into my

kitchen and I saw a strangewoman there; I asked what she wanted, or what she did there?

Was that strange woman the prisoner? - Yes; she said she only wanted a pint of purl.

Do you keep a public-house? - No, a private house. I sent for a constable, and he took her before Justice Hyde.

Did you find any of your goods upon her? - No.

Prisoner. I never saw him till now.

Did you ever see the woman before that time? - Never in my life.

Is the constable here? - Not that I know of.

- ELBELL sworn.

I am the wife of William Elbell . On the 15th of December I was sitting in the parlour; we were going to have some hashed meat for dinner; I called my servant up to get some vinegar; the servant came up and went out for the vinegar, and left the door open; she came back with the vinegar; she took the meat down. She had not been long gone down before she called Ma'am, ma'am, here is a woman in the kitchen! I went down and saw the prisoner with a loaf under her arm; I lifted up her hat to see if I knew her. She said she wanted a pint of purl.

Did you see any of your goods upon her? - No.

Prisoner. I never saw the woman before to my knowledge.


I am servant to Mr. Elwell. I was down in the kitchen; my mistress called me up and sent me for some vinegar; I went for the vinegar. I found the door open and I left it open. The door generally stands open at that hour of the day; it was between two and three o'clock. When I came back I left the vinegar in the parlour and took the meat down stairs; when I came down into the kitchen I saw somebody lying down; I asked who the devil was there to frighten me!

Who was the person that was lying down? - The prisoner. I went round the great table which stood in the middle of the kitchen, and said, you may get up now you won't frighten me; she crawled up; I asked her what she had got; she had a loaf in her apron, and the linen was rolled up under her, she had taken it off the table.

What linen was it? - Five pair of sheets and three tablecloths.

Did you leave the linen on the table? - Yes.

Are you sure it did not fall off the table? - Yes: it is a large ironing table; I had set it in the middle of the kitchen. Seeing the linen on the ground, I asked her what that linen was; she said she had nothing but her own loaf.

The linen was not in her apron? - No, it was on the ground; when she got up I saw the linen; I went round the table to meet her at the door, and asked her what she wanted; she said a pint of purl, and if she could not get it there, she desired I would let her go where she could get it; I said she should not go till my master or mistress came down stairs; I called out to my mistress who came down and lifted up her hat and looked at her; the prisoner told her she wanted a pint of purl; we asked her if that looked like a public-house; she said she did not know.

What part of the table were they lying upon? - Upon the middle of the table.


I was very much in liquor. I went in and called for a pint of purl; I could make no body hear; I laid me down and was almost asleep. I never stole a halfpenny worth of any thing in my life.

Jones. She did not seem much in liquor; she said we were in liquor.

Did you make any noise when you went down? - No,

Was she asleep? - No, I had not been out of the kitchen long enough.

She was not lying in a place concealed was she? - She was between the table and dresser; it was dark in that part of the kitchen.

Jury. Were the things tied up? - No, they were quite loose, some folded and some unfolded.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Lord Chief Baron SKYNNER.

[Fine. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

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44. JOHN FRANK otherwise FRANKS was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Jeremiah Bentham , Esq . on the 28th of December , about the hour of one in the night, and stealing three silver tea-spoons, value 3 s. and fourteen guineas in monies, numbered, the property of the said Jeremiah, in his dwelling-house .


I live in Queen-Square, Westminster . On Tuesday the 28th of December we went to bed about twelve o'clock having been at the Opera that night, otherwise we generally go to bed about eleven. It is my method to take a servant with me round the house to see if every thing is safe. I went that night particularly into the study, which has some windows toward the garden, and one door only which opens into the house; that study lies remote from the other part of the house. I saw the windows fast; I locked the door myself. The servant that warms my bed brings me up the keys at night; and she comes up in the morning for them to distribute to the rest of the servants. I got up about seven o'clock in the morning, and went down into the study; I found the sash thrown up and the window shutters broke; there was a writing table in the room belonging to Mrs. Bentham, which was broke open; there were two book-cases in the room, one opposite the chimney, the other opposite the window which looks into the garden; that opposite the chimney had mahogany doors, they were broke open. In the other bookcase opposite the window is a drawer, in which I generally put my money. I had the day before received of a tenant some bills and fourteen guineas, which I put in that drawer. The fourteen guineas were taken out of the drawer. The glass doors of that book-case were broke open. I do not know any thing of the spoons.

Were there not other valuable things in the study? - Yes, silver candlesticks and a tea chest with silver cannisters; they were not taken away. The prisoner lived servant with me six years and an half, and behaved exceedingly well, till the latter part of the time, when he got connected with an infamous woman; I recommended to him to leave her, and go out of the kingdom, or she would be the ruin of him.

Mrs. BENTHAM sworn.

There was a writing table in the study which was broke open this night? - Yes.

Was any thing lost out of that writing table? - Yes, two silver spoons; one was broke, the other nearly broke.

How long had they been in that writing-table? - A considerable time. During the time this man lived servant with me they were broke; he brought them to me, and I put them into this writing-table.

Court. When had you seen them there before you missed them? - I cannot positively say, very near the time I missed them.


I write for Mr. Bentham, and live next door to him. I was present when the prisoner was apprehended at the Black Horse in Petty France, Westminster, where he lodged. On Wednesday the 29th of December, between the hours of ten and eleven in the morning; I searched him in the back room, and took out of his pocket three silver teaspoons, and about thirteen shillings and sixpence, in silver, two of the tea-spoons were marked J. B. the other A. B. the constable has them in his possession. While we were searching him, when we took the money out of his pocket, he said he would swear a robbery against us for taking the money from him. At first when I saw only the thirteen and sixpence, I thought him innocent, but when I saw the tea-spoons it gave me great reason to suspect he was the person who committed the robbery; upon searching him farther we found a pocket-book upon him.

We took him to Mr. Bentham's and examined the pocket-book, and found in it eleven guineas sealed up and four pawnbroker's duplicates.

Was there any question put to him about the money before you found the eleven guineas? - None at all.

Cross Examination.

You found him at the house where he lived? - Yes.

Was he able to walk? - He walked with a stick; he appeared to be lame, but not very lame. He was sitting by the fire. I went out and called George Strutton in to take him.

Court. You said you was surprised at finding only thirteen shillings and sixpence upon him, did you express your surprise? - Only to George Strutton . I told Strutton I believed he was innocent; but when I saw the spoons I looked at the cypher and said that was sufficient.


I am a constable. I apprehended the prisoner; I searched him and found three teaspoons in his breeches pocket. I first took thirteen shillings and sixpence out of one breeches pocket, and then the tea-spoons out of the other. He shuffled about and wanted to put his hand to his coat pocket; I bid him keep his hands before him. I searched his coat pocket and found a pocket-book. We brought him to Mr. Bentham's, where we opened the pocket-book, and found eleven guineas sealed up, and four duplicates.

Court. Was the money taken out in the presence of the prisoner? - It was.

Do you remember, as you found only thirteen shillings and sixpence at the Black Horse, any question being put to him about it? - No. He said this is all the money me got, me swear a robbery against you if you take my money away. That was at the Black Horse.

Cross Examination.

He speaks very bad English I believe? - He does.

You cannot be particular to the expressions? - Yes, those are the words as near as I can recollect.

(The pawnbroker's duplicates were produced in court and read.)

(One dated) 17 Nov. 8 s. 6 d. for a pair of buckles.

(Another) Dec. 6th. A pair of sheets, 6 s. Dec. 24th Three pair of gentlemen's ruffles, 6 s.

(The other) 30th Nov. A pair of silver buckles.

(The spoons were produced in court and deposed to by Mrs. Bentham.)

To Mr. Bentham. Did you discover how the person who had robbed your house had got away from the house? - I have a long ladder and a short one; the short one was taken out of my coach-house, and was found under the wall.

Was not your coach-house door locked? - No.

Did you see the ladder yourself in the park? - No.

To Mrs. Bentham. Did you see the ladder? - Yes, I saw the ladder in the park under the wall, close to our summer-house; I called the servant and asked him if it was our ladder; he said it was.


I am footman to Mr. Bentham.

Do you know whose ladder it was that was found under the wall in the park, near the summer-house? - Yes, Mr. Bentham's; I saw it in the coach-house about two or three days before.


I am a chairman.

Do you remember being employed by the prisoner on Tuesday the 28th of December? - I remember being employed by a man, I do not know that it was the prisoner; he came down from Cleveland-row to St. James's-street, about three o'clock in the morning. I carried him to Petty France, Westminster.

Do you know the house you carried him to? - No.


You are the landlord of the Black Horse, where the prisoner lodged? - I am.

What time on Tuesday night, the 28th of December, did the prisoner come home? - About four in the morning.

Did you see how he came home? - No, he was knocking at the door half an hour I believe before I let him in.


You are a watchman of that parish are you not? - Yes.

What time of the night or morning did the prisoner come home? - He passed me at three o'clock; he came home in a chair; I went to call the hour, and saw him get out of the chair.

Court. Did you know him? - Yes.

Had you known him any time? - Yes, for several years.

You are sure the prisoner is the person? - Yes.


I am a baker in Portland-street, St. James's.

Do you remember going to the prisoner or being sent for by him to Tothil-fields Bridewell? - He sent for me.

What conversation passed between you? - Very little; he asked me to appear for him, and say that he was at my house on the night of the robbery; I told him I could not do that because he was not with me.

What did he want you to do about a note? - He did not tell me for what purpose, but asked me to make him a note. I do not exactly remember the sum, I believe for ten pounds or thereabouts. I told him he never lent me any money, and I could not give him a note for what I never had of him.

Court. Was the note to be as if you had lent him the money or he had lent you the money? - As if he had lent me money.

Did he want you to say that you had borrowed money of him and paid him again? - Yes.

Did he say so in words, that you had borrowed money of him and paid him again, or was that your construction of what he said? - He said it in words.

For the Prisoner.

Dr. CHELSON sworn.

The prisoner was recommended to me as a servant by the prosecutor, in May last. He was in my service four months; he accompanied me abroad, and was three weeks in my service after I came home. I wish to be understood that I have the highest opinion of his honesty, diligence, and abstinence, as to eating and drinking. I allowed him board-wages; and I believe from the frugal manner in which he lived, he saved money. Between the 18th and 27th of December I had a conversation with him, and I advised him to get rid of his connexion with that woman, as I was persuaded he could not be safe with her; he said he was convinced of it, and should be glad to get on board a privateer. I understood that to arise not from any consciousness of his having done wrong, but merely to get rid of that connexion. When I was abroad, knowing the friendly design with which Mr. Bentham recommended him to me, which was that he might go out of the kingdom, I asked him if he wished to stay on that side of the water, or return to his own country; he said no, thank God, he had done nothing to be afraid to come to his own country, and he came with me to London, and was three weeks in my service after he came home. I beg to observe, that when I had that conversation with him after he came home, he appeared to be extremely lame, and was supported by a crutch.

To Buckmaster. The prisoner's wife was with him, I believe, when you took him? - Yes, she was in the tap-room at the time.

To James Smith . How did the prisoner appear when you took him into the chair? - He appeared sober enough.

Was he lame at all? - I do not know indeed, he had just turned the corner.

Had he a stick? - Yes.

Had he a crutch? - No. I do not know whether the prisoner is the man or no.

To Wilkinson. Did you see him go out of the chair? - Yes; he got out of the chair and walked up to the door.

Had he a crutch? - No, only a stick.

Dr. Chelson. On dismissing him on the 3d of October, I paid him the remainder of the account between us, amounting to fourteen guineas. I believe the whole I paid him during the four months he was in my service amounted to about thirty pounds.

Jury to Archer. How was the prisoner as to his lameness? - He had a crutch when he came first; he threw that by about two or three days before this. He lodged at my house but five days.

GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice NARES.

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45. JOHN McCORMICK was indicted for stealing a wooden box, value 21 s. two yards of muslin, value 5 s. and 120 l. 17 s. in monies, numbered, the property of Ann Crucius , in her dwelling-house , Dec, 19th .


On Sunday the 19th of December, about half after eight in the evening, we heard an uncommon noise.

Do you live with Mrs. Crucius? - Yes. We presently found this noise was made by a maid servant coming up stairs. She came into the drawing-room where we were sitting; we could scarce understand any thing she said, but at last understood there were rogues in and about the house, and a man murdered in the yard. As soon as we could recollect ourselves, we opened one of the drawing-room windows and called for the watch; I got a watchman's rattle and rattled it out of the window; some of the neighbours came to our assistance; we proceeded then to search the house, but could not find any person in it. We missed a box which was usually kept in Mrs. Crucius's bed-room, this caused fresh alarm; somebody asked if we had any way out backwards; I said yes. In a short time after the box was found at the upper end of the garden. I immediately ran out and met some persons (I am not sure whether there was one or more persons) bringing it in; I followed them close back again to the house; I stopped at the bottom of the stairs to examine the box; I found the bottom was broke out; some parcels had been opened, most of them wet and tumbled about. I immediately missed a remarkable purse, in which there were some parcels of money kept.

Who put them in it? - I did.

What was the amount of the money? - Either 120 l. or 140 l. I cannot say which possitively, but on enquiry after the purse was found, we heard such a thing had been seen tossed about at the top of the garden. I examined the box again when I went up stairs, and missed a remarkable remnant of muslin and two snuff-boxes.

That is all you know about it? - That I at present recollect.

Prisoner. I was sent that night to the apothecary's at Ludgate-hill. My mistress said she suspected a person she thought guilty of the fact.

Did Mrs. Crucius mention any person she suspected to be guilty of this? - The person she said she suspected was the prisoner.

The Rev. Mr. WOOLLASTON sworn.

I was not in town at the time of the robbery; I was present at the examination of the prisoner before Sir John Fielding, and at the recovery of the money, and when he confessed the robbery.

What passed at Sir John Fielding 's? - We were before Sir John Fielding on the Tuesday afternoon; the prisoner was then questioned as to the fact; his account of it was that he had been out into the yard on the Sunday evening to a pantry, that returning from that pantry he saw a man coming from the back door of the house. He had lived with Mrs. Crucius as her servant about three months. That is the same account he had given to the family. He said likewise that he had a loaf under one arm, and a candle and lantern under the other; that he threw them down and went to seise the man, upon which the man knocked him down with a horse pistol, and when he was down, I think he said he struck him a second time, upon which he called out murder, thieves! And here I ought to add another circumstance that he called out murder, thieves! fasten your doors!

To Laplant. Did you hear him cry out so? - No.

Mr. Woollaston. That he was stunned, and the man got over the garden wall. Justice Adington asked him then what was lost, and whether he himself had lost any thing; he made answer that he had lost a suit of

clothes of his own, and I think two shirts and a great coat. This was the whole of his account. Upon that the prisoner was ordered to be searched; they searched his pockets and found nothing. I should first of all have mentioned whereabouts these things were stolen from: the box which was missing was taken from under a bed in the one-pair-of-stairs back room, his clothes were taken from the garret; his great coat was taken from some of the rooms below stairs. I state this from the account I had from others; I was not in the house nor in town at the time. In the room from whence the box was taken, there were two chests of drawers, neither of those were opened at all. These circumstances I mention because they led me to think of going to Sir John Fielding ; as they seemed to throw a suspicion on the prisoner, I thought it was right he should go and clear himself if he could. After his examination at Sir John Fielding 's he was searched, and they found in the most secret place, the muslin concealed that was taken out of the box, within his dress. One of the ladies mentioned the length of it, I think two yards and a quarter; it proved to be exactly that length. Upon this being discovered, Sir John Fielding ordered him to be taken into another room to be searched more narrowly, as it was hardly decent he should be searched farther in the presence of the ladies. They took him to another room; he desired to be brought back again to Sir John Fielding and said he would confess; he was brought back and confessed. -

Was there any promise made to him to induce him to confess? - I believe none at all; I was not in the other room; they returned presently and said he would confess; he came in and made a confession seemingly quite voluntarily. He said that he was perfectly alone, that nobody was with him; upon this Sir John asked him, where was the money, and where were the things; to which he replied, in the cabin, in his mistress's garden. That is a place where they usually clean knives. Sir John ordered him to be carried back that he might fetch them; upon Sir John's ordering him to be carried back by the constables, I proposed going with him left it should over-set Mrs. Crucius, who had been in a dying state; we went with him quite through the house to this place in the garden; the two constables went in; I stood at the door; I saw him stoop down, lift up a board of the floor, and there was a little hole, in which there was a little parcel wrapped up in a handkerchief; he handed this parcel to the constable; we went together into the kitchen, and opened the handkerchief; we found in it two snuff-boxes mounted with gold, and seven parcels of money; I think some of the parcels were in the snuff-boxes, but I will not be positive, I think there were two in one and three in the other; the others were separate. As we were going along, he told us there were three shillings missing out of the whole sum which he had taken out. We opened the parcels, three of the parcels contained nineteen guineas each and no shillings; three other parcels contained nineteen guineas and a shilling each; one parcel contained twenty shillings only. There was in the whole 120 l. 17 s. The other servants were in the kitchen. I said to the prisoner, where are the clothes you said were stolen? to which he replied, O that was nothing. I do not exactly recollect the words, I understood it, that that was only a pretence. We then went to Sir John Fielding 's and carried the money; Sir John ordered the money to be sealed up under the constable's seal; the snuff-boxes were left in the custody of the constable. On Wednesday morning (the next day) we went again to Sir John Fielding 's, and then the money was consigned to my care; the constable, I believe, has the snuff-boxes and muslin. The next day, as the key of the prisoner's box had been taken out of his pocket and delivered to Mr. Bond, as belonging to the family, I asked Sir John what was necessary to be done with his box; he had sent for some things out of it; I thought it was not proper to open it without directions, and I went with Prothero to search his box; the clothes, he pretended had been stolen, were found in the box, and some candles; and the great coat which

he said was lost was found under his bed.

Prisoner to Mrs. Laplant. Whether my mistress did not tell me that night, that if I could discover the persons who had been guilty of the offence, and they would restore the money, she would give them twenty pounds, and would not prosecute them?

Mrs. Laplant. My aunt said to the prisoner, if he knew any person who was guilty of the offence, and would restore the money, she would give them twenty pounds; he said he knew no such person; she said then she would give forty pounds, and would not be at the trouble to prosecute them; he said he did not know any such person.


I was at Sir John Fielding 's; I searched the prisoner, and found upon him a piece of muslin.

(The muslin was produced in court and deposed to by Mrs. Laplant.)


I am an officer belonging to Sir John Fielding . After McMANUS had searched the prisoner and found the muslin, the prisoner begged to speak to his mistress or Mr. Wollaston, and said that he would tell where the money was. I then took him into the room before the justice, and he said he would go with us and shew us where the money was, and deliver it up, and that he hoped we would not hurt him. I believe the answer Sir John Fielding made was, you foolish fellow, or rascally fellow, give up the money. I cannot be particular to the words. I was ordered to put him into a coach, to take particular care of him, and go with him to get the money.

You confirm the account of Mr. Wollaston? - Yes. I have got the snuff-boxes; the money was delivered to Mr. Wollaston, because I was going to Ireland. These are the boxes.

(The snuff-boxes were produced in court and deposed to by Mrs. Laplant.)

Mrs. Laplant. The money was in two purses; I have them in my pocket (producing them); I had them in my hand the night before the robbery.

Mr. Wollaston. This is the money (producing it); he took it from under the board; it was sealed up thus, before Justice Addington.


The night the robbery was committed my mistress sent me on a message to Ludgate-hill; I left a strange man and woman drinking with the servants in the kitchen; I told them when I went out to take care of the doors; I was away about three quarters of an hour or an hour at most; when I returned I found the back door wide open; I went and sat down with the servants about three quarters of an hour. At about half after eight o'clock the cook went to light the man and woman out; when they were gone, I was going for some bread, I took a candle and lantern in my hand; as I was returning with the loaf under my arm, a man ran out at the door; I threw the lantern and bread down and laid hold of the man; he knocked me down, and when I was down he gave me a blow on my face; before I could recover myself he had run down the garden; one of the young ladies said she heard a man run down the gravel walk; I called out murder, thieves! and bid them shut the door; we searched every part of the house; then we went into the garden, and some of the things were scattered in the garden; I found the purse cut; some of the money was out and some in; I put the money into my pocket, and went and put it in the shed, not with an intent to keep it. My mistress said if I knew of any person who had done it she would not hurt them, but give them twenty pounds if they would restore the money. I hope and beg for mercy; I am a poor fellow and have no person to speak for me.

GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice ASHHURST.

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46. ANN the wife of John GOULD was indicted for stealing a leather purse,

value 1 d, six guineas and sixteen half guineas in monies, numbered, the property of William Herring , in the dwelling-house of the said John Gould , December 17th .

(The witnesses were examined apart at the request of the prisoner.)


Where do you live? - In Scotland. Three of us came on shore the 17th of December; I went to Ann Gould 's house in Shadwell , for one night.

Did you know her? - I knew nothing of her before.

Do you know her husband John Gould ? - No. Her proper husband was not at home; there were two men in the house when we went in.

Do you know her husband? - I do not.

What did you loose? - Fourteen guineas, which were in my trowsers pocket; there were six whole guineas and sixteen half guineas; they were in a leather purse. She kept a disorderly house. We went in there to get some girls; she and I were standing in the middle of the room; she was close to me; she asked me for two shillings for the bed; I gave her a half guinea to change; she went down stairs and then brought my change up; and put the remainder of the silver into my pocket.

From whence did you take that half guinea? - I took the purse out when I gave her the half guinea, and took the half guinea out of my purse and gave it her, and she gave me back my change; we were standing disputing about the girl; the girl was drunk whom I was to lie with, and I did not like to go to bed in the house. The prisoner took my money out of my pocket.

Did you see her do that? - When she took the purse I asked her what she was going to do with that; she said the girls were strangers to her, that they were clean, but she did not know for their honesty, and I had better let her have it till the morning; I told her I did not like such ways as that; she said she was landlady of the house, and her house and goods were good for that, and I should have it in the morning; I told her I did not like that, that I was capable of taking care of my money, and would have it myself; I offered to take it from her, and she went down stairs; I did not go down after her. In the morning when I came down to get my money she was gone from the house.

Did you ever get any of your money again? - No, I never got a farthing of it. I went that morning and acquainted Justice Sherwood's men of it; they went along with me, and we found her and the man that she used to keep company with in the Borough, at one Peter Cockran 's house; she was searched and three or four half guineas and a guinea were found upon her; she was searched by William Ellowby ; he returned her the money, and she had five or six gold rings in a box in her pocket; we brought her over the water to Justice Sherwood's; the justice was not at home that night; we went into a house; when we were there she sent to her sister; her sister got a press gang and they pressed us; her sister said, thank God the bougers are pressed; upon which the prisoner clapped her hands and said thank God the money is all my own.

Court. How do you know that she had got a press-gang? - Her sister when she came into the house said thank God I have got both the bougers pressed.

Did you hear that said? - No.

Nor did you hear her say the money is all my own? - No.

Court. Then you must not mention that. When was she taken up again? - She was put into the watch-house that night and taken before the justice next day.

Cross Examination.

Was you ever at this woman's house before? - No.

What induced you to go this evening as you did not know the prisoner nor her husband? - No.

What company did you take with you to this house? - One John Snowden , who had been in the house before, took me there; and William Atkins went along with us to the house.

Do you know such a woman as Susannah Trebit ? - Yes.

Did not you take her into the house? - No, the prisoner went and fetched her and another woman.

Do you remember the conversation that passed between you and the prisoner? - No.

Did not she tell you she was going the next day to Gosport? - No.

Then you say Susannah Trebit also is a stranger to you? - Yes.

Have you perfectly forgot the conversation that passed between you and Gould? - No such conversation passed between us; she never told me she was going to Gosport; her sister told me when we came down the next morning and asked for our money, that she believed she was gone on board the Nightingale to get a man off who was pressed.

You knew she was a married woman? - She said her husband had left her, and she kept that way for a living.

Did she appear to keep the house? - Yes.

What quantity of liquor might you have drank there? - I cannot tell what quantity.

Was not you upon the conclusion of the evening exceedingly intoxicated? - I was not drunk at all.

Then you drank a great quantity of liquor soberly? - Yes, what liquor it was; it was not an intoxicating liquor. Five of us had a bowl of punch.

Whether the prisoner Ann Gould did not give you some account of Susannah Trebit , who was in your company? - We asked if we could not have a girl; she said she would go and fetch a couple of girls.

Did you not say just now she told you she could answer for the health of these women but not for their honesty? - Yes.

Did not the prisoner tell you to be upon your guard, for Trebit was a notorious pickpocket? - No.

You deny that? - Yes.

Who was the woman you went up stairs with? - I do not know; the woman that I was to go to bed to was carried up stairs and laid upon the bed; she was quite drunk.

Was it Susannah Trebit ? - No.

How came you to recollect Susannah Trebit and not the other? - I have been in company with Trebit since.

How came you to go to bed and let the prisoner keep your money? - I thought it as well to let her keep it; there were two men in the room and we did not care to make a noise about it.

Then you suffered her to take your money without making any disturbance? - I made a disturbance in the room, and she ran down stairs; she said she was mistress of the house, and her goods and furniture were answerable for it if she ran away.

After she had got it you went quietly to bed? - No, I wanted my money.

If you had supposed Ann Gould had robbed you of your money should you have gone quietly to bed? - I was afraid to go out of doors and make a noise, for fear they should have a gang to press me.

You can tell whether it was against your will and consent? - It was against my inclination.

You positively deny that Gould had given you any account of Trebit? - She said the girls were strangers to her, they were clean, but she could not give an account of their honesty.

So you stood quietly and suffered Ann Gould to put her hand into your pocket and take your purse? - The purse was hanging out, and she whipped it out of my pocket.

You seem a stout man, why did not you follow her? - I was afraid if we made any noise in the house they would get a gang and press us; it was that kept me from going down stairs after her.

Court. She took it, if I understand you, without your consent, that you would not consent to let her have it, when she attempted to persuade you to it; that she went down stairs, and you did not follow her because you was afraid of being pressed? - Yes.

How came you to be afraid of those two men pressing you? - I was afraid they might send one out for a gang.

Prisoner. He brought those two men along with him.

Herring. No, there were two men there, Michael Riley and Patrick Doyle , when we went into the house, and another man came in while we were there.

What are they? - I believe they follow coal-heaving.

Counsel for the Prisoner. Was your shipmate in the room when your purse was taken from you? - Yes.

He stood by and saw it? - He did.

Did not she assure you that she took it out to take care of it, and would give it you in the morning? - Yes.


Do you know the prisoner at the bar, Ann Gould ? - Yes.

Was you ever at her house? - Yes; on the 17th of December.

Who went with you? - William Herring .

Were you drunk or sober when you went there? - Sober.

Had you been drinking before you came there? - We had had three pots of beer before we came there.

What happened to William Herring while you was there? did you see him pay for any thing? - He had paid for some liquor that we had had and we had some pork steaks for supper; we were to have a girl a-piece to go to bed with.

Were you to pay for the bed? - Yes; two shillings a bed.

Who demanded the money of you? - That girl (the prisoner.)

Did she demand any of Herring? - Yes, two shillings, which he paid; he wanted a guinea changed; she got change and gave him the change.

From whence did he take his money, was it in a purse or loose in his pocket? - I believe in his pocket loose; I did not observe that; I saw him give her a guinea; she brought him the change, she kept the half guinea and gave him the rest in silver; he had paid for the bed, then he had to pay her for the girl afterwards; then she slipped the purse out of his pocket, saying, what have you got here; he said it was his money; she said I insist upon keeping it till to-morrow; he said no, no, he would keep it himself.

How came she to see his purse? - I am not sure whether he took the guinea out of his pocket or out of the purse; but I saw him have the guinea in his hand and I saw the purse afterwards.

Did she give any reason why she would keep it? - She said she would keep it for him; there was no fear of it if it was fifty pounds, she said; no, no, said he, I would rather have my money, and I will have it.

Did she give any reason why she would take the purse and keep it for him? - No reason but that she would keep it till to-morrow morning; he would not let her have it.

Did he offer to take it from her again? - He asked for it, she would not let him have it; there were the two girls there at the time; she went down stairs.

Did he go down after her? - No.

What became of the half guinea; did she keep that half guinea? - Yes; she kept it all but the silver, she gave him that.

You do not know what money there was in the purse, or whether there was any? - I know what money was in the purse, she told it down into her own hand.

What became of it then; did she return the purse? - No; she would not return either purse or money, she put the money into it again.

How came she to tell it? Did she say any thing of this sort; I desire it to be known how much there is or what? - She told it to herself and said there is fourteen guineas of it.

Did she speak that out to all the company? - Yes; when she told it over he asked her for it, but she would not let him have it; the money ran in my head all night; I got up about six o'clock, I went down stairs and enquired of the landlady's sister whether the landlady was in the house; she said no; I asked where she was; she made no answer; I ran up and told him she was gone; he put his hand in his pocket and said she has got all my money, I said I know that.

How came he to put his hand into his pocket for the money, did he think it was in his pocket? - I suppose he did.

He thought it was in his pocket at first? - Yes; we both came down stairs together; we enquired of the sister where she was gone; the sister said that she and one Michael Riley were gone on board the Nightingale to look after a man who was pressed; I take it that was meant to get us to go and look after her that we might be pressed.

Was you pressed? - Yes; that might in

looking after our money; the sister or somebody informed of us.

Where were you when you were pressed? - In Ratcliffe Highway.

In this house? - Yes.

Was you present when she was searched? - I was not.

Cross Examination.

What time of the evening was it when you first went to this public house? - It was not a public house she kept.

Was there no liquor sold there? - They went out for it and fetched what we sent for.

What time of the day did you first of all go there? - It was at dark.

Were you both perfectly sober when you went in? - Yes; we were newly come on shore, I was quite sober.

How was Herring? - He was sober too.

What quantity of liquor do you suppose you might have had? - I don't know how much he might have drank, I spent near to a guinea myself.

What that evening? - They took us in; they gave us little for money.

I suppose your friend Herring spent equal with you? - I suppose he spent more than me.

You could not be perfectly sober I suppose after drinking this ocean of liquor? - O yes I was nothing the worse; I had not drank much of it, the girls drank of it.

Do you know such a young woman as Susannah Trebit ? - Yes.

Did you know her before you went to this house? - No.

Who did she keep company with, you or Herring? - With me.

Who did Herring keep company with? - A girl that was very much in liquor.

Do you recollect Ann Gould waiting upon you backwards and forwards? - Yes; she was very busy seeking after the girls.

Do you remember Gould telling Herring to be upon his guard of the girl he was in company with? - Yes.

Did not Ann Gould tell him she was a bad woman; and he must take care of his pockets? - Yes; she did really.

When she took this purse up did he desire she would count the money, or he count it himself? - Herring said either give me the purse, or tell the money over. Herring said if you be for keeping my money let me have the pleasure of seeing how much there is of it.

Did Ann Gould in consequence of that tell the money over? - Yes; she told the money over before him, but then he said again give me my money.

Court. After she had told the money he insisted upon having it again? - Yes; he thought she was only joking, he told her that he wanted the money.

Did she go away directly? - Yes.

Counsel for the prisoner. You said Herring thought that he had the money in his pocket the next morning? - Yes; he put his hand in his pocket and said she has got my money; I said I know that; when I said that he recollected it.


I saw the prisoner take the purse out of the prosecutor's left hand pocket as his trowsers hung down, it wanted a button and a little bit hung out.

Had he pulled his purse out before for any purpose while you was there? - Yes.

Did you see him pay her any money? - He changed half a guinea with her, and she took two shillings for the bed.

When she took the purse out of his pocket what did he say? - He said what is that for; she said she would keep it for him till the next morning; that the girls were strangers to her; that they were clean, but that she would not answer for their honesty; he desired to have it again, she said no she would not let him have it at all; and went down stairs directly.

Do you know how much money there was? - The man said there was fourteen guineas.

You did not see it counted? - No; I did not I see it counted, nor do I know that it was counted.

Did you hear that it was? - No.

You was there all the time? - No; not all the time; I was there when she took it out and saw her go down stairs.

Then if the money was counted after she took it out you must have known it? - I do not know that it was.

Who was you with? - With the witness Snowden.

You did not go away till after she was gone down stairs? - I did not go away till after.

Cross Examination.

Was you perfectly sober? - Yes.

You had been with these people the whole afternoon? - No; not above an hour and an half.

Was you present when Gould made mention of your name, and said you had been in trouble? - Yes.

You did not hear her say you were strangers to her? - Yes; she said we were strangers to her, though we were clean girls.


I am a constable; Herring and Snowden came to me, and told me Herring had been robbed of fourteen guineas; I went on the other side of the water and found the prisoner at one Mr. Cockran's; Mr. Herring gave me charge of her and said that was the woman who had robbed him; I searched her and found a guinea, two or three half guineas upon her I don't know which; I brought her over the water to Justice Sherwood's; he was not at home, we had no hearing that night; I took her to the watch-house; her sister was with her; I desired her to go and get some things to put under her; she went and got some things, and came in clapping her hands, and said, I have got the bougres pressed; then Mrs. Gould made answer, the money is all my own they cannot affect me. There were three in company, and they all fell a clapping their hands in this manner (describing it). The next morning I told Justice Sherwood the transaction; Justice Sherwood wrote a letter to the captain of the ship they were carried on board of, and he surrendered them up to my custody.

Did she say on board of what vessel they were pressed? - No; only she had got a gang and they were pressed; we had not the woman in custody half an hour before they were pressed.

What became of the money? - I cannot tell what became of the money; I returned it to her immediately; the sister, in the presence of Mrs. Gould said, now I shall get forty shillings a head for each of them.

This was in the prisoner's hearing? - Yes; and in the presence of several more people.

Cross Examination.

It was merely upon the application of Gould's sister that these men were pressed? - I cannot say that.

Ann Gould did not make any secret of having the man's money? - She said she had never seen the money.

Court. When was that? - The same evening.

Was it before or after the men were pressed? - She said that as soon as I had her in custody; I went down to the Nore to fetch these young men up; Ann Gould said they would be gone far enough before sessions.

- FORRESTER sworn.

I am headborough of the parish of St. Paul's Shadwell; I was sent for; hearing the seamen had been robbed of fourteen guineas I went to seek after the woman, and was informed she was gone over the water; I went over the water and found her at Cockran's playing at cards with one Riley a coal-heaver; we brought her over the water to Justice Sherwood's, and then took her to the watch-house; while she was in the watch-house her sister came in, clapped her hands, and said she had done the two bougres over, she had got them on board the tender; then Gould said, thank God for that, for the money is all my own. Herring went with us over the water to Cockran's, and as soon as he saw the prisoner he knew her.


I attend at Mr. Sherwood's office; I was at the apprehending of the prisoner on the other side of the water, and saw her in the watch-house; when her sister came in with some clothes for her she said she had got the two bougres pressed; Gould said, thank God, then the money is all my own.

You are sure she said so? - Yes; I was in the tap-room at the time.


I know nothing at all about the money; I

left two girls in the room with him; I heard them talking of the money after I came down stairs; I have two witnesses to prove it.

For the Prisoner.


What are you? - I go out to wash and work; I was last Thursday was three weeks at Mrs. Gould's; I slept with her; she wanted me to clean her house, she said she was going to Gosport to her husband.

How came you to be so particular about the day? - She used to have me once a a month to clean her house and to wash for her.

That was the 8th of December I believe? - I cannot say, it was last Thursday was three weeks; I did not see or hear any thing of the money; I slept with her that night.

Do you know any thing of William Herring ? - I do not indeed, I never saw him before.

You are very certain to the day? - I am very certain to the day; I always wash for her of a Thursday.


I am a mantua-maker; I worked for Mrs. Gould's family; I have worked in the house but never saw any thing but civility; she desired me the last work I did for her to make haste for she wanted to go down to her husband; I have known her about nine years, I never heard any ill of her in my life; she always paid me very justly.

Court. Do you know her husband? - Yes.

Does he keep that house? - Yes; he is at sea; I knew him before he was married.

GUILTY of stealing the money, but not guilty of stealing it in the dwelling house .

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice NARES.

[Whipping. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

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47. PETER MORGAN was indicted for stealing a silver table-spoon, value 10 s. the property of John Humphreys , December 28th .


I had all the spoons I should have on Sunday the 26th of December. I did not miss any spoon till Mr. Davis, the person to whom the prisoner went to pawn my spoon, brought it to me. That was on Tuesday the 28th.

Do you know the prisoner? - I never saw him before he was in custody.

Was you present at his examination? - I was.

Did he say anything in your hearing about the spoon? - He said that a woman he lived with brought it to him.


The prisoner and a woman came to my shop on the 28th of December, with a spoon; my boy came into the back shop and said a man and woman had got a spoon to sell; I went into the shop and saw the spoon was marked Hercules upon it; I asked, whom does this spoon belong to? the prisoner said, it belongs to me.

What is it marked with? - Hercules, which is the tavern Mr. Humphreys keeps in Threadneedle-street, behind the Change. I asked him where he got it; he said he bought it at Portsmouth; I said what did you give for it; he said sixteen shillings; I said, you bought it new; he said, yes; I said what is your name; he said my name is John Humphreys , and that his name was on the spoon. I sent my boy for a constable; the boy came back some time after, and could not get one; I said then, my friend, you had better tell how you came by the spoon; you must have stolen it, or come unfairly by it. The woman got away. Soon after one of Justice Wilmot's men came by and secured the prisoner; he then said that he would tell the truth; that he had met with that woman, who gave him a pint of beer to dispose of it for her. We then took him before Mr. Wilmot; one of Mr. Wilmot's men and I went to the Hercules, and enquired of Mr. Humphreys if he had lost any thing; he said not that he knew of; he shewed me some spoons which tallied with this; I bid him look over them and see if he had his number; upon looking them over he missed one.

What did the prisoner say before the justice? - He did not say that he bought it at Portsmouth. He then told nearly the same story that he had before done to me, that he had it of the woman to sell.

Prisoner. It was the woman who owned the spoon that spoke of the name.

Davis. The woman answered nothing at all, it was he that gave me the answers to all the questions that I put to him.

Prisoner. Did not the woman offer the spoon?

Davis. I cannot tell, it was in the shop when I came there; when I asked whom it belonged to, the prisoner said it is my spoon; the woman did not say any thing.

(The spoon was produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutor.)


It was the woman brought the spoon and carried it into the pawnbroker's shop.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

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48. JOHN HOW was indicted for stealing twelve pounds and a half of scarlet woollen cloth cuttings, value 25 s. the property of John Brooks , December 22d .


On the second of December I missed some scarlet woollen cloth cuttings.

How much did you miss? - I reckon a hundred weight at the least. The prisoner's son lived with me as a servant from the 8th of October till the 4th of December, and on the 22d I had a person came to enquire for some cuttings; I had deposited them all in one compter, for they are an article which are seldom called for, when I came to look into the compter, which should have been full, I found it half empty. The next day I went to the piecebroker's in Cloth Fair, to see if I could find any of these goods sold there; I enquired at several places, at last I came to Mr. Samuel Goodman 's shop; I asked him if he had bought any scarlet cloth cuttings within these two or three months; he hesitated a little, at last he said he had. I asked him if he could describe the person he bought them of; he said he could; he gave me a description, by which I knew the prisoner to be the person. I then desired to look at the goods he had bought; he shewed me a part of them. He said he bought them of the prisoner.

Did he mention the person by name? - He did not know the prisoner's name; he said he bought them of a person, whom he so described that I knew him to be the prisoner. He said he was a tall man, in a lightish-coloured coat, and had black hair. I asked him if he should know the man again in case he saw him; he said he should. I then got a warrant to apprehend both the prisoner and his son who then lived with me. Mr. Goodman went along with me and the officer to serve the warrant. We first took the boy, afterwards we went and took the prisoner. As soon as the officer had got the prisoner into custody, I asked Mr. Goodman if that was the person; he said he was. We then took him to Wood-street Compter; being there informed that there was an alderman sitting at Guildhall, we took him directly to Guildhall; when we came there the boy was examined, and denyed stealing them; the father was then asked how he came by them; he said he bought them of one Tucker, who lived a servant in Cateaton-street. Tucker was sent for and when he came he denied having any dealings of that kind with the prisoner, except about two years ago he employed the prisoner to make him a waistcoat, that there was a part left sufficient to make the fore part of a waistcoat for a child and that he sold to the prisoner for one shilling. The prisoner and his son were both sent back to the Compter, for him to find the person he bought them of. The next day they went under another examination; the prisoner was asked if he had found the person he bought them of; his answer was that he had not, but that the people he had them of brought them to his house, and when he had sold them they called for their money, but that he did not know their names nor where they lived then. The boy was examined again.

Court. You must not mention what he said upon his examination to affect the father.


Do you know the prisoner? - Yes.

Did you ever buy any cuttings of scarlet woollen cloth of him? - Several times.

Did you ever buy any cuttings of him that you afterwards shewed to Mr. Brooks? - Yes, they are in court.

Do you know any thing more? - Nothing more than Mr. Brooks has related of what passed before the alderman.

Prisoner. I sold the goods to Mr. Goodman; he did not know me when I sold them to him, nor did I know the person I bought them of.

I asked him how he came by these goods; he said he had bought them from the foreman of a warehouse, that they were his perquisites; I paid him the full price for them, and did not know but that he came honestly by them. When Mr. Brooks enquired after them, I told him that I had bought such things; he asked me if I should know the person I bought them of; I said if I could see him I should know him.


I was a constable. These goods were delivered to me at Guildhall on the 24th of December.

(They were produced in court.)

Prosecutor. These are my goods; I know them by the manner in which they are done up; nobody else puts them up in that manner. They are my own cuttings.


I live with Mr. Brooks; I know that these are Mr. Brooks's property.


I bought them of a man whom I know not; I thought to get a shilling by them by selling them to Mr. Goodman.

For the Prisoner.


What relation are you to the prisoner? - I am the prisoner's nephew. Ever since I have known the prisoner he has been an honest man.

How long have you known him? - Thirty years.


I have known the prisoner fourteen years; he worked two years constantly with me; I trusted him with a great deal of property; I never found him other than an honest man.

Jury. What trade is he? - A tailor.


I have known the prisoner eight years; I have always found him to be a very just and honest man.


I have known the prisoner about seven years; I never knew him behave otherwise than as an honest hard working man.

What is the value of them?

Prosecutor. The whole that were at Mr. Goodman's were worth eight pounds.


I have known the prisoner thirty years; I never heard any thing before this affair to the prejudice of his character.


I have known the prisoner about thirteen years; I never heard but that he was an honest working man, with a large family.

Prisoner. I bought them at several times of the man I had them of.

Jury to the Prosecutor. Did you loose them at several times or all at once? - At several times.

Jury. You said you missed them all at once? - But Mr. Goodman said he bought some almost every week.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Justice ASHHURST.

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49. ELEANOR WHISTON was indicted for stealing forty guineas in monies. numbered , the property of John Carpenter , Jan. 1 .


I am a butcher in Fleet-market, my lodging is in Dean-street, Fetter-lane , I was robbed about two years ago by a servant, and therefore I was very cautious of living any

money in the drawers; I laid this money on the top of a corner cupboard, which went up almost close to the ceiling. The prisoner was my servant about half a year; on New-year's Day she went from the shop to the lodgings, as usual, but staid longer than her common time. When we left the shop to go home it was about half after twelve in the morning, my son, my apprentice, my wife, myself and the prisoner, all went home together; she went first into the room with a great deal of courage, then she said, Lord have mercy upon me, here is a piece of work! my wife's clothes lay all about the room.

She spoke as if there had been thieves? - Yes; and I supposed so myself at first; my clothes were flung about in the next room upon the bed and upon the floor; we looked in the other room and there was a door broke open; at last I went into the yard and looked upon the leads; I saw there had not been any body in that way. I then suspected the prisoner. I bid my wife see if the money was safe, but I was afraid it was gone. We missed the money; I took the prisoner up to St. Andrew's watch-house, and then I went with the constable to her sister's to enquire for her, for I suspected one of her sisters; when one of her sisters came down, I asked her if there was not another sister? she said there was, but she was not at home; but the constable went up into the garret, and there he found the other sister. The constable searched her, and took from her eleven shillings, and a half-crown piece; she said her own money was only two shillings and some half-pence; we asked her whose money that was? she said it was her sister's; we went down to the sister in the one pair of stairs room, and asked her if that was her money? she denied that it was. We then returned to the watch-house, and the constable said he had got the money in his hand; I said then there were two guineas I could swear to; I did not say that to influence the prisoner to make a confession, though I believe it had that effect, I believe she thought the money was discovered from her sister; she then told my son if he would go out of the watch-house with her, she would confess; she then said that her sister had often persuaded her to rob her master; that she came on Saturday about one o'clock and tapped at the window, and she let the sister in; that she gave her the money; that she threw the clothes about in one room, and the sister in the other; that she went away with the money, and she never saw her afterwards.

That was the next day? - It was in the morning; she was taken then to the Compter; we took both the sisters to St. Sepulchre's watch-house. The constable searched the prisoner; she behaved with a good deal of impudence, and laughed; since that I have found several bad affairs.

What age is the prisoner? - I do not know, I believe about 21.

Have you ever had any of the money again? - Not a farthing.

Had she had opportunities of seeing where you put your money? - I believe she had; she acknowledged that her sister had been with her above a week before to induce her to rob me; I have found since that she has been several times concealed in the house, and lain with the maid without my knowledge. The wards were taken out of the lock of the street-door, and there were pick-lock keys found; she has confessed she could open any door in the house.


I am the wife of the prosecutor, I counted the money that day at eight o'clock, and put it there; they were all good guineas; I put in five guineas that day to make it up even.

Did you observe at any time that the prisoner had an opportunity to see where you put your money? - No. She got up on my bed once with two or three people, and broke down my bed; this purse was at that time on the tester of the bed. I never put the money there afterwards, that I suppose gave her the item to look upon this cupboard; she had two or three fellows on the bed; she is a w - e. I had given her civil warning.


I am the son of the prosecutor, when the prisoner was in custody she desired me to go out of the watch-house and she would speak to me; I know nothing of it before that time.

Before she spoke to you did you say any

thing to induce her to confess? - Yes. I said it would be better, if she knew any thing of it, to confess; she said if I would go out of the watch-house she would tell me; when we went out she told me, her sister had been above a week persuading her to rob my father.

Did she do it voluntarily of herself, or did you give her to understand it would be better for her? - I said, I thought it would be better for her, before that she desired me to go out of the watch-house, and she would tell me; she said her sister persuaded her to rob my father, and that her sister came home to my father's house about one o'clock, and tapped at the windows; that she let her in, and shewed her where the money was; upon which she said her sister took the money and went out of the house, and she never saw her afterwards. She said she threw the clothes about the room, and her sister broke the door open.


I live with Mr. Purdue in the same house with Mr. Carpenter; I left the prisoner and her sister together in the house about one o'clock; I had lent her sister some things and she went to fetch them; she came with them while I was at home, and they both went out together a little after two o'clock.


I had the prisoner in custody; Mr. Carpenter came up to St. Sepulchre's watch-house, between one and two in the morning of the second of January and acquainted me he had been robbed of forty guineas; I asked if he had a suspicion of any body; he said yes of his servant maid and her two sisters; he said she was in custody at St. Andrew's watch-house, and desired me to go with him to the sister's and take them; I told him I could not without a warrant, unless they opened the door; I went and knocked and one of the sisters opened the door; I asked where the other sister was, she said she was not there, but would be there in the morning; I went up stairs and found her in the garret; I searched her and found eleven shillings and a half crown upon her; she said she had only two shillings and some half pence, that the rest belonged to her sister; I brought them both up to the watch-house, I searched the place but could find no gold; the next day I brought them before Mr. Alderman Sawbridge, Mr. Sawbridge discharged them because there was no evidence against them, except the prisoner's confession; the prisoner confessed that her sister Mary Higgins took the money and broke the staple of the door.


I never saw the money; I never knew my master had the money in my life.

For the Prisoner.


I am a jeweller. I have known the prisoner nearly ever since she was born; I lived near her father and mother in the country, and I lived in the house with them in town. She is about twenty years of age I believe; I never knew any harm of her in my life.

How does she get her living? - She went to service.

What was her general character? - I cannot tell what other people knew; I never knew any harm of her.


I have known the prisoner about six years; she always bore a very honest character as far as ever I heard. I lived next door but one to her father. I go out to service; I live with my brother and sister when out of place. My brother is a tailor, and my sister keeps a clothes shop.

Jury to the Prosecutor. Was the prisoner ever searched? - Yes.

Were there no guineas found among any of them? - No, they had time enough to make away with what they had; she was gone from ten till about three before she returned to my shop again.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Justice NARES.

[Whipping. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

Reference Number: t17800112-8

50. CHARLOTTE WALKER was indicted for stealing a leather pocket-book, value 2 s. the property of Matthew Deverell , and a bank note for 20 l. the said note being the property of the said Matthew Deverell , and being then due and unsatisfied to him the proprietor thereof , November 22d .


On the 22d of November as I was going home to my lodging at the end of St. Giles's, a little after ten, I met that lady at the bar in Holbourn about the French Horn.

What part of Holbourn is that? - It is above the Bars, between Great and Little Turnstile; she asked me to give her a glass of wine, or I asked her to drink one, I cannot say which. We went into the French Horn.

Did you speak to her first or she to you? - I cannot tell exactly, I believe she spoke to me first. We went into the French Horn, and had some wine and water; while we were drinking the wine and water she picked my pocket of my pocket-book; I had it when I went into the house; there was nobody in the room but she and I, only the landlord brought in the wine and water.

Which pocket was it in? - My waistcoat pocket.

Were you sober or in liquor? - I was not far in liquor; I had been drinking with several friends whom I had been doing business with, but was not intoxicated.

Are you sure you were perfectly sober when you went into this house? - I had been drinking two or three glasses of wine with some people I had been going business with; I was not fuddled.

Had you a great coat on over your waistcoat? - I had no great coat on at the time, I had this coat on.

Was your coat buttoned over your waistcoat? - I cannot tell that.

How long before you went into the house had you felt the pocket-book in your pocket? - I cannot tell, it was not long, I had my hand in my pocket just before I met her and felt it in my pocket.

Are you sure you had it after you left the house you was in before you met her? - Yes, I felt it in my pocket in the street. I often feel in my pockets as I walk along the street, to see if my books and things are safe.

How long were you in the house with the prisoner? - About ten or fifteen minutes. I agreed to go with this gentlewoman to her lodging; she desired me to go up the horse-ride, and she would go up the alley, and meet me in Holborn. I went like a fool, but did not meet with the lady. I missed my pocket-book, and returned immediately, and told Mr. Parry I had been robbed in his house. The horse-ride is in the yard, and there is an alley. She was to meet me in Holborn.

Did she tell you where she lodged or was she to shew you to her lodging? - She did not tell me, she was to shew me; I had not been out of the house above four or five minutes before I missed my pocket-book, and returned and told Mr. Parry.

Did you go back into the room where you had been with her to see if you could find it? - Yes, we went and looked round the room directly but could not find it.

Then it occurred to you when you missed it, that you might have dropped it in that room? - It was impossible to drop it out of my pocket unless it was pulled out. I went to the room and looked, but had no great notion that it had dropped out of my pocket.

Had not your waistcoat been open while you was in that room? - No, my waistcoat was not unbuttoned while I was in the room with her.

What did you do on missing it? - I went to bed; I staid there all night; I asked the landlord the next day if he knew any thing of her; he said he knew nothing about her; then I staid till after dinner, to see if I could get any intelligence of her.

When did you get any intelligence of her? - In four or five days, I cannot tell exactly the day.

How did you hear of her? - Mr. Parry sent me a letter by the post, and I came to town immediately and got a warrant for the prisoner; she was taken before I came to town. When they sent for me to town I swore to her. She was taken before Justice Triguet, in Hart-street, Bloomsbury; she owned being with me but denied knowing any thing of the pocket-book.

Did you ever get your book again? - No.

What was in the book? - A twenty pound bank note; I put it in that afternoon; I took it for some cattle I had sold.

Are you sure the bank note was in it? - Yes; there were besides memorandums and bills and receipts in it.

Prisoner. I have no questions to ask him, he is very well convinced I never was near him.


I am an officer. The prisoner was brought to Justice Triguet's with a charge; I had had descriptions of her and therefore took her as my prisoner; I had a warrant against her for this matter of Mr. Deverell.

You took this to be the woman you had the warrant against? - Yes.

Was she searched? - No.

Neither at that time nor any other? - No.

Did you enquire for her lodging? - Yes, we found the place where she lodged.

Did you search the lodging? - No.

Why did not you search? - Because it was the 14th of December when I took her, it was a long while after the robbery.

Upon her examination at Justice Triguet's, or at any other time did she say any thing about the robbery? - No, she only said she had been with the person drinking some mulled wine, but denied the fact.


I keep the French Horn in Holborn. On the 22d of November Mr. Matthew Deverell and the prisoner came to my house about a quarter after ten at night, and had some wine and water; they staid about a quarter of an hour, then they both went away; Mr. Deverell came back in a short time and said he had lost a pocket-book. As soon as they were

gone I went into the room and took the bowl and candle away. There was no pocket-book there then; nobody but me went into the room.

Did you look round the room then? - No.

Did you go and look in the room when Deverell came back? - I cannot swear to that, I do not recollect; I believe we did go and look into the room. I asked him why he thought the woman had taken his pocket-book from him, and he gave me his reasons.

When the prosecutor came back and you searched the room you did not find any thing? - No; I told him his best way was to remain in town and I would make what enquiry I could after her.

You did not know the prisoner at that time? - Yes.

Did you know where she lodged? - No, I did not know where she lodged; I made all the enquiry I could and as soon as I heard of her wrote to Mr. Deverell in the country consequence of which he came to town.

Do you know any thing further of the matter? - No.

Was you present at the examination of the prisoner? - Yes; she always denied it from first to last.


I met with the prosecutor promiscuously in Holborn; he came up to me and asked me to go and drink a glass of wine at this man's house. I went in with him; he asked what I chose to drink; I said a glass of red port mulled; he sat down on one side of the table and I on the other; he pulled out half a crown and asked me if I would lie with him for that; I said I never accepted of any thing so mean as half a crown; he said it was immaterial, if I would not do it for that; he had been with two other girls that evening. He said perhaps if I took him home he might make me a present of something more. I said I could not take him home for any such money. He asked me where he could find me again; I said in Holborn; he said he would go up the horse-ride, and I went up Holborn. The prosecutor passed me afterwards in Holborn; he was very much in liquor; he said nothing to me nor I to him. I was afterwards informed that Mr. Parry charged me with taking a bank note from the prosecutor; I went to Mr. Parry's, and gave him a direction where I lived, and asked him where the prosecutor was; he said he was gone into the country, but would come to town that afternoon; I said very well, there I lodge, if he has any such thing to charge me with, he may do it any time. I was at Mr. Parry's house almost every night after the warrant was out against me. He said nothing to me. I asked him before the constable if he did not know where I lodged; he said he did; I asked him why he did not call upon me at my lodging; he said the prosecutor had been several times in town, and never came near him; that he should never have come after me if he had not met with me.

To Parry. Did the prisoner come to your house to give you a direction where she lodged? - I gave it out that she had taken this bank note and that she had better come to my house; a few nights after she came in such a bullocking manner that I begged she would walk out of the house, and she might depend upon it she would hear of it again.

Did she tell you where she lodged? - She did not; I heard afterwards that she lodged at one Rushworth's in Covent Garden; I said it looked bad her never coming to my house afterwards, she never was there but that once.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17800112-9

51, 52. WILLIAM STEVENS and PETER FLIGGART were indicted for stealing three loaves of sugar, value 25 s. and a lump of sugar, value 14 s. the property of Robert Sinclair , Dec. 9 .


Mr. Sinclair the prosecutor has two wharfs; I was at one wharf and the other clerk at the

other; on the 9th of December between the hours of six and seven in the evening as I came in at the gate I saw the two prisoners come out with this sugar.

Where is the wharf? - In lower East-Smithfield .

What quantity of sugar did you see them coming out with? - Three loaves and one lump.

It belonged to Mr. Sinclair did it? - He had the charge of it, it was in his possession.

Did you stop them? - No; I think the first said, as the people would not pay for the sugar they would take it back. I thought they had been on board a ship with the sugar, and that the master not being on board they were carrying it back again; they were stopped with the sugar by Isaacs and Jenkins; I counted the sugar twice over on the wharf and found three loaves and a lump were missing.


I was out at a burying and happened to come by.

Do you live with Mr. Sinclair? - No; I live near him; seeing a number of people I went to see what was the matter; the sugar was at this time lodged in a widow woman's house; she called me in to see what should be done with the sugar; I saw it was marked J. C. Aberdeen; there were three loaves and one lump; I knew it had come from Mr. Sinclair's wharf; I went directly to this young gentleman Mr. Sinclair's brother, and told him there was some sugar so marked; they looked in their book and found it entered there.

Were the prisoners in the woman's house? - No; they were gone by that time; I don't know how the sugar came in the house.


I am servant to the next wharf to Mr. Sinclair's; as I was going home these two boys were standing behind a cart; two children told me there was somebody throwing things at them, and asked me to go with them; I went and saw Fliggart and asked him what he had been doing to the children; he said nothing; I had a lantern I saw the sugar standing behind a cart; there was another boy with Fliggart taking up the sugar; I don't know whether he was the other prisoner or not, he ran away; there were three loaves and a lump of sugar on the ground; I took Fliggart and my fellow servant took up the sugar and carried it to the house; I went with him.

Did you see any mark on the sugar? - Yes; as they were carrying it I saw it was marked J. C. James Isaacs came just as I was taking the boy away and bid me hold him; the other boy was taken just after, as he was running up the street, by one George Smart.


These two boys came down Mr. Sinclair's wharf and asked me if we should want a cart for next morning; they said they belonged to our carman one Turnbridge; I said we should; I went up into the counting-house again, and took no further notice of them.


I went to the doctor's to buy a pennyworth of unction; I happened to have the foul disease; I went behind the cart to ease myself; some boys came by and said I was heaving at them; they went and brought a candle out and laid hold of me; I know no more of the sugar than the dead; I am twelve years of age.


I am thirteen years old; I used to drive a cart in Thames-street for one Samuel Bond ; I have a mother in Ratcliffe Highway who carries things about the street, sheeps hearts, and such things.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before L. C. B. SKYNNER.

Reference Number: t17800112-10

53. THOMAS MABETT was indicted for that he upon Mary, the wife of William Jackman , unlawfully, wilfully, maliciously, and feloniously did make an assault with a felonious intent, the monies of the said William Jackman , from the person of the said Mary to steal , Jan. 5th .


As I was coming along Piccadilly from a days work, between eleven and twelve at night, upon Wednesday the 5th of this month the prisoner laid hold of my shoulder,

swore an oath, called me a bitch, and bid me deliver my money; in my fright I turned round and said Thomas Mabett I know you; I told him where I lived and who I belonged to; he swore an oath and then left me.

How long have you known him? - About six or eight weeks; I have not lived in that place longer.

Where does he live? - In a court there.

What is he? - I have seen him at the horse trough watering his horses.

What acquaintance had you with him? - None further than seeing him backwards and forwards and crying potatoes the corner of Carnaby Market; I have had no acquaintance with him at all.

He did not say any thing when he laid hold of your shoulder? - No; he swore another oath when I called him by his name and told him who I was, and called me a bitch and went away.

Did he seem drunk or sober or how? - In my fright I cannot tell; he did not look much like a drunken man.

From the prisoner. Please to ask her whether she did not drink with me at a publick house? - No; I can bring a witness where I was at work.

Had you been in company with him? - Never in my life.

Did you stop at any public house, or at the door of any public house? - No; I did not; I had been at work, I go a charing at gentlemen's houses; I had been that day at Mr. Bull's at Carnaby Market.

How came you to be out so late? - My mistress had somebody from the country she went out with, and therefore I could not finish the washing so soon or else I am never so late.


My wife came home much frightened very near upon twelve o'clock.

Do you know any more of this affair? - No.


I am a constable; I had a warrant to apprehend the prisoner; Jones and I apprehended him; we brought him in a coach; he cried very much in the coach, and said he believed he should be done this time.


I am as innocent of the affair as any child in the world is; I stopped at the Red Lion in Piccadilly and remember seeing a woman there having a pot of beer at the door.

To the prosecutrix. Was there any watchman near? - I saw none.

Did you call for assistance? - I did not in my fright.

Was there nobody passing along? - No; it was almost the dead time of the night.

That is a time when many people are passing in that part of the town? - I did not see any body at all, nor did not mention it to any body till I got home.

Prisoner. She lodges with my wife's mother; it is a piece of spite.

Prosecutrix. She is not his wife, he lives with this woman's daughter; he lodges in Colling's Court, I lodge in Park-lane.

For the prisoner.


I have known the prisoner seven or eight years; he keeps a horse and cart and gets his bread in that manner; he has been a lodger of mine two years; I never saw any thing but what was right of him in my life, he always behaved well.


I am an harness worker; I have known the prisoner a dozen or fourteen years; he was always an honest just lad as any I ever knew; I would take him into my house and trust him with every shilling I have in the world untold.

JOHN MEW sworn.

I keep a public house; I have known the prisoner above two years; I never heard any thing of the kind of him; I do not know a great deal of him, only his using my house; he always behaved very well in my house.

- BOWERING sworn.

I have known the prisoner twelve years; he was an honest just young man, and worked hard for his bread.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before L. C. B. SKYNNER.

Reference Number: t17800112-11

54. JAMES STEWARD was indicted for stealing a wooden cask, value 2 s. and 6 d. and five gallons of gin, value 2 s. and 6 d. the property of Philip Booth and John Moan , December 11th .


I lost a keg of gin, worth 1 s. 6 d.


I am servant to Mr. Booth; I met the prisoner near the door with a keg of gin upon his shoulder, he wished me a good night; I suspected something; I went in and asked if any body had been served with such a quantity of gin; I found there had not; upon this we pursued the prisoner, and within twenty yards of the shop took him with the keg upon his shoulder.

(The keg was produced in court, and deposed to by the prosecutor.)


I have no witnesses here; I had been at Turnmill-street to get some beer and some victuals; coming down Turnmill-street I passed that gentleman's shop; they came out and ran after me and said I had stolen some liquor out of their house, and they took me to the distill house again, and then took me before the justice; I never had the keg.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice ASHHURST.

[Whipping. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

Reference Number: t17800112-12

55. JOHN SMITH was indicted for stealing two wooden casks, value 5 s. and 15 gallons of gin, value 50 s. the property of Philip Booth and John Moan , in the dwelling house of the said Philip and John , December 11th .


I lost two kegs of geneva.


I took up the prisoner; he confessed stealing the casks; he said I am a dead man for I stole two casks of gin from Mr. Booth's shop.

The prisoner's confession was read, which it appeared had been voluntarily made, in which he said he stole the casks and sold them for forty one shillings.

GUILTY of stealing to the value of 20 s.

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice NARES.

[Whipping. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

Reference Number: t17800112-13

56. THOMAS IVES was indicted for stealing two hempen cloths, value 6 d. 3 lb. of lump sugar, value 2 s. eight oz. of green tea, value 2 s. 6 d. a pair of stone sleeve buttons set in silver, value 4 s. one plumb cake, value 2 s. and a yard of silk ribbon, value 6 d. the property of Thomas Chressey , January 8th .

A WITNESS sworn.

I am a coachman; I put a basket behind my coach into the basket in Chisswell-street, on the 8th of January, at eight o'clock in the morning; after I had driven the coach about a quarter of a mile, keeping my eye round me as I saw people I suspected, I saw a man at Shoreditch running from the coach behind a waggon, and saw another man on the other side with a basket under his arm; a man called out to me to know if that man had any right to the basket; I said no; the prisoner was stopped and brought up to the coach, and from thence he was carried before a magistrate, where that basket was opened, and all the things mentioned in the indictment taken out of it.

How do you know it to be Mr. Chressey's? - There is a direction upon the basket to Mr. Thomas Chressey ; I don't know it otherwise; I have not informed Mr. Chressey of it.


It was lying along side a broad wheeled waggon when I took it up; I was coming from my work when it happened; there was no other man with me.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before L. C. B. SKYNNER.

[Fine. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

Reference Number: t17800112-14

57, 58, 59. ROBERT EVANS , PATRICK FEELING , and JOHN SHAKESTAFF were indicted for stealing eleven

bushels of coals, value 7 s. the property of Richard Wood , Thomas Wood , William Wood , and James Richard Wood , Dec. 21st .


I am a coal-merchant , in partnership with Richard Wood , Thomas Wood , and James Richard Wood ; upon the 21st of December we lost eleven bushels of coals out of a barge; on the 22d we were informed by some people that the prisoners had been detected stealing coals out of our barges and were in custody.


I was at Shadwell Dock on Tuesday evening the twenty first of December; I saw three men on board Mr. Wood's craft; I said three men were robbing our craft; upon which I went on board the craft and saw it was much robbed; Mr. Wood's people came off a little after, I told them of it at that time; I knew the prisoners by sight, but did no know the names of either of them, except Feeling; my brother was along me; Feeling had a barge in the same tier; there were coals on board his barge; he could not come over to Mr. Wood's barge without a skiff; there were coals missing out of Mr. Wood's barge; that was between eight and nine at night; I could see the holes were the round coals had been taken out; the prisoners were distant about a hundred yards when I first saw them, I afterwards went to the barge and saw the boat at about a boat's length from the barge.


On the 21st of December, at half after eight at night, I was told by Mr. Martin that Feeling and two more men had been taking coals out of Mr. Wood's craft; I went after them and saw a skiff lying along side a loaded barge; the skiff seemed deep in the water; I rowed up to it; Feeling was on board his master's own barge, the other prisoners were in the skiff with the coals; I asked the men how they came by the coals; they said they were given to them; I took the skiff and locked it to the ring of Mr. Wood's barge; Martin then got a runner from Justice Sherwood's, and took the two men on shore and left Feeling behind to row his barge on shore; we took his word to appear the next morning; they said before the justice that while they were drinking some one had taken the skiff and loaded it with coals; Feeling did appear of his own accord the next morning before the justice.


On the 21st of December, I was in a boat with my brother, I said somebody was robbing my master's craft, we had better row after them, which we did; I saw a skiff alongside of the barge; we came up to them and asked them how they came by the coals; they said they were given to them. The skiff was near to them. There was about eleven bushels, which were worth about thirteen-pence a bushel; we took the men up and put them in the watch-house; they then said they had lost their skiff, and that they gave a man three-pence to take them down to the barge.


I had two loaded craft belonging to a gentleman who was my employer, which lay along-side these gentlemen's craft. I thought I had a skiff ashore, but when I came to look for her she was stolen away. I said to these two men, I will treat you with a pot of beer if you will lend me a hand in with two craft which are loaded; they agreed to go with me and lend me a hand. I went down to the water-side, and the skiff, as I said before, was stolen away. I got a skuller and gave three-pence to carry off these two men and me; when I got along-side, I had Mr. Wood's craft to step over to get into my master's barge; just as I had stepped over one or two of these craft, I happened to see my own skiff along-side my master's craft; I said here is my - skiff, I will take her to the wharf and see if any body owns any thing about the coals, if not I do not know what to do with her. There came off five or six of these men; they asked, who are you? I said a lighterman. Have you been robbing the craft, these are my master's coals? I said I do not know that they are your master's coals, they were along-side my master's craft? they said we will take the skiff away to Mr. Wood's our master; I said if you will you must, to be sure there is a supernumerous of you; I said did you see me or either of these men touch

a coal. They said, O, you have had them out. I said, if they would say that I could not help it; I said, they may belong to you for any thing I know. They stopped the skiff and then fetched a runner from Mr. Sherwood's and took these two men that were in the barge astern of my master's barge. I said to Mr. Sherwood's men, you know me, I am not going to run away nor fly, I have done nothing I am afraid of. They said we know you and will take your word. I said either to-night or in the morning I will surrender myself voluntarily up to you. They took my word, and in the morning I went and surrendered myself up, having done nothing to be afraid of. We had a hearing, and according to what these men said Mr. Sherwood committed us; he said it is petit larceny; after that Mr. Wood made it grand larceny. I did not know any thing about petit or grand. As to the coals I did not touch one; it is natural for a lighterman to walk over other people's craft without any design of ill-behaviour. If I had any inclination that way, there was property enough of my master's, without distressing any other gentleman; there were thirty chaldron of my employer's coals.

For the Prisoner.


I am brother to the witness Edward Martin . I have known Feeling seven or eight years; he always bore a good character. I was in the boat with my brother; I saw a skiff with coals, and three men in it near Mr. Wood's Barge; I cannot say that I saw them take any thing out of Mr. Wood's craft; but the skiff had coals in it; they were about a skiff's length from the craft coming from it. When I saw them first, Feeling was one of the men in the boat.

( William Barwell , John Martin , William Bean , and Robert Barwell , who had known Feeling many years, all gave him a good character.)

To Robert Martin . Whether it was possible for Feeling to walk from Mr. Wood's barge to his master's? - No.

Feeling. Fie, fie, Robert! were they not all close together?


At the slack of the tide the two ends of the craft will be together, and in less than a minute they will swing quite apart.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice ASHHURST.

[Fine. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

Reference Number: t17800112-15

60. MARY MANSFIELD was indicted together with two other persons, to the jurors unknown, for that she on the king's highway in and upon Mary Arnett did make an assault, putting her in corporal fear and danger of her life, and stealing from her person a gold ring with hair in crystal set therein, value 20 s. two guineas and a crown piece, in monies, numbered, the property of the said Mary Arnett , January 11th .


On Tuesday last at three o'clock in the afternoon, as I was coming by St. Dunstan's Church in Fleet street , a woman came up to me; I had been to fetch a bundle for a gentleman, and had the bundle and a bonnet in my hand; the woman came up and asked me if I would sell the bonnet; I went a little farther and another repeated the same question; I told them no; I went as far as the print shop; then the prisoner stopped me and beat me on the breast; she pushed me up in the crowd, and they crowded me up in the crowd while they picked my pocket; I asked her several times what was the reason she kept me in the crowd, and would not let me go about my business. The crowd was behind and she stood before me and kept me in the crowd.

How long did she keep you in that situation - I believe about five or six minutes; I asked her what she kept me there for; she said why do not you go about your business; I said because you will not let me out. I got out by force with her striking me on the stomach; I got beyond the print-shop; I thought of my pocket; I felt my ring and money were gone; the ring and two guineas were in a box; the crown piece was loose in my pocket; they were all gone.

How long before had you felt the box in your pocket? - An hour before she stood before me. All the time there was somebody belonging to her on the side of me where the box and money were; she spoke to somebody in the crowd.

What did she say to her? - I cannot say; I was in a great fright; I had things of value which belonged to other people in my hand.

You did not see who she spoke to? - No, I did not; I did not think of her robbing me till after I got out of the crowd.

When you missed the box out of your pocket what did you do? - I thought to follow her wherever she went, she walked by the side of me.

Did she say any thing to you when she came out of the crowd? - No.

Did you say any thing to her when you missed the box? - Yes, I said I had been robbed, and she was the person that had done it, for she struck me up in the crowd; she was sorry for my loss, but why should I suspect her.

How long did she continue to walk with you? - Till she came to Water-lane; she turned down there; I told her I should have her taken up for she was the person.

Did you call for any assistance to take her up? - Yes, there was a constable just by, and she was taken up.

Was she searched? - Yes, they took her to a public-house, and the neighbours all came about me.

Was any thing of your's found upon her? - No.

Did you lose sight of her before you had her taken up? - No.

Your things were never found then? - No.

Did you see her stop to speak to any body after she came out of the crowd? - No. While I was in the public-house, I said I would go and have the advice of a friend; when I returned they told me there had been two women lurking about to see what became of the prisoner.


The prosecutrix attacked me; she said she had lost her money, and charged me with it; I know nothing of it.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17800112-16

61. EMANUEL ISAACS was indicted for stealing a woollen cloth coat, value 5 s. a woollen cloth waistcoat, value 2 s. a pair of worsted stockings, value 2 d. a silk gown, value 8 s. a pair of linen sleeves, value 2 s. a silk petticoat, value 10 s. a printed book bound in leather entitled The Memorable Works of a Son of Thunder and Consolation, value 1 s. a yard of linen cloth, value 6 d. and a pair of women's stuff shoes, value 3 d. the property of Thomas Smith , December 11th .

ANN GREEN sworn.

I am servant to Mr. Smith in Lombard-street. On the 11th of December my mistress sent to me to pack up her things; I packed up the things mentioned in the indictment (repeating them) to go from the town house to the country house. She was in the country at this time. I packed them up in a packing cloth, and put them in the errand cart to go to my mistress's at Tottenham.

Whose cart did you put them into? - One Richardson's; he comes from Tottenham. The cart was in Nicolas-lane. I put them into the cart myself.

Whose care did you deliver them to? - Into the care of James Richardson ; I saw him go off with them.

You do not know what became of them? - No.

What time of day was it? - Four o'clock.


I took these things (producing them) out of the prisoner's left hand, in Houndsditch. I saw the errand cart coming towards Bishopsgate-street.

Do you know whose cart it was? - I do not; I saw the prisoner behind the cart undoing the tilt. There were four or five of them, I cannot say which.

Are you sure the prisoner was one? - Yes; after he had undone the tilt, he went out of the highway into the pathway. After the cart had gone about twenty yards he went to the cart again; he put his hand upon the tail of the cart, and with his left hand pulled out this bundle; he turned his back to the cart, and was coming from it; I said to my brother get on the left hand side of the pathway, for that man has robbed the cart; the prisoner ran from behind the cart with that bundle before him.

Did you or your brother stop him? - Yes, I did.

Is that the bundle you saw him take out of the cart? - This is the bundle, I delivered it to Ponsonby the constable. When I took hold of him, he asked me what I wanted with him? I said he had robbed the cart; he attempted to drop it, and it fell between him and me. I took hold of him by the collar, he began to be outrageous; having him in one hand and the bundle in the other, he was almost too much for me, till my brother came up and I got assistance. I delivered the bundle to Mr. Perke.

Cross Examination.

What time of night was this? - Between six and seven o'clock on the 11th of December, on a Saturday.

It must be very dark at that time? - It was dark.

How far was you from the cart when the bundle was taken out? - About ten yards off; it was almost opposite Mr. Perke's shop.

Could you see distinctly what was doing at the cart? - Yes.

Why did not you tell the carter of it? - The prisoner ran from the cart, and the cart kept going on. He desired me to let him go but I would not.

Did you charge him with taking the bundle? - Yes; he said he found it in the street. It was a sloppy night, but the parcel was not dirty.


At the time of the bustle did that young man deliver that bundle to you? - Yes, he brought it into my shop. Wilcox crying out, I went out to their assistance, and we brought in the bundle and the prisoner. I opened the bundle and looked at it and sent Wilcox after the cart; it was not to be found. I looked over the things and said they would bear advertising. I sent for a constable and delivered it to him; it was only left in my custody while he took the prisoner to the Compter.

Cross Examination.

You cannot say that this is the bundle which was left in your shop? - It is the same bundle; I examined it before the constable took the prisoner to the Compter and after he came back.


I am a constable. I was sent for, and found the prisoner in custody; this bundle was produced to me by Mr. Perke; it has been in my custody ever since.

Cross Examination.

How in your custody, has it been under lock and key? - Yes, I took the things out and put them in one of my own drawers and kept the key.

(They were deposed to by Ann Green.)

Ann Green. The stockings and shoes are marked with my master's name.


As I was coming up Hounsditch I saw these things lie in the street. This man came up to me and asked me what I was going to do with them, and where I got them? I said I picked them up; I told him I would go with him into a house, and if any body owned them they should have them.

For the Prisoner.


I am a dealer abroad. The prisoner has been a servant of mine; he has been with me to France; he always behaved very honestly; I have trusted him to receive drafts for me.

- NICHOLSON sworn.

I am a draper and mercer. I have known the prisoner two years I never heard any good character of him.


I have known the prisoner between twelve and fourteen years. I have known him to be trusted with pounds worth of my master's and

his father's property. I never knew any thing but honesty of him.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Whipping. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

Reference Number: t17800112-17

62, 63. ELISABETH GASKIN and MARY JONES were indicted for stealing five pieces of thread lace, containing thirty-five yards , the property of Jarvis Chambers , William Langston , and Luke Hall , December 22d .


I am an apprentice to Messrs. Chambers, Langston, and Hall. On the 22d of December, between the hours of two and four in the afternoon, the two prisoners came into my master's shop and asked to see some thread edgings; I shewed them one box in which there was nothing fine enough for them; I shewed them another out of which they bought two yards and an half; they then asked to see some broader and finer lace; I shewed them some; they bought a yard and a quarter; while I was measuring it, I perceived Jones take a card, which she had been looking at before, and slide it into Gaskin's apron, which Gaskin concealed.

One card of lace? - Yes; Gaskin took it out of her apron and put it into her pocket-hole.

Did they take any thing else? - There was more found upon them when they were brought into the shop again. I took no notice of it to the prisoner, but put up what they bought of me, and they paid me for it. I let them go out of the shop, and then went after them and brought them both back.

Did you follow them directly? - Yes. When they were got into the shop they placed themselves very near the compter, and Gaskin dropped five cards, almost as soon as she got into the shop, before we could get a constable. I saw her drop them.

What quantity did they contain? - About thirty-five yards.

What was the value? - Five pounds, and upwards. Two of the pieces were not measured.

Cross Examination.

This was done so public that you saw her take it? - Yes.

Where were the cards of lace found? - On the floor of the shop.

Whereabouts? - On the outside of the counter.

Did you never say that it was on the other side of the counter? - No.


I am a constable. I was sent for and charged with the prisoners. The cards of lace were delivered into my hands; I searched the prisoners up stairs; there was nothing found upon them.

(The lace was produced in court and deposed to by Wilson.)

Court to Wilson. Are you certain you saw the cards drop from Gaskin? - Yes, I am certain I saw them drop.


When we were before the justice the other gentleman said he took the lace, and saw it drop.


I was in the shop at the time, but was not near enough to see the transaction.

Jury to Simon Cook . What money did you find upon them? - I did not search their pockets.

For Gaskin.


I have known Gaskin seven years; I never heard a miss character of her in my life.

- COLLINS sworn.

I have known Gaskin three quarters of a year; I never heard but she was an honest hard working woman.

For Jones.


Jones has worked for me two years; she behaved herself honest and just while she worked for me. She is a very hard working body.


I have known Jones half a year; I was shop mate with her; I never heard any other than a good character of her.

Jury to Wilson. Were there many other customers in the shop when the lace was taken off the ground? - Several; some I knew, I cannot say I knew them all.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Whipping. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

Reference Number: t17800112-18

64. PATRICK BURN was indicted for stealing a wooden box, value 1 s. and 50 lb. of sugar-candy, value 50 s. the property of Ebenezer Macmure , January 5th .


On the 5th of January, at about six in the evening, I saw the prisoner take a box of sugar-candy out of Mr. Ringles's cart, at the corner of the Bull Inn in Bishopsgate-street ; I asked him what he did there.

How near was you to the cart when you saw him do that? - Close to him; he made me no answer.

Did he carry it off? - He had not got it quite out; he let go the string, when I spoke to him, and rather pushed the box in; I took him by the collar after he pushed the box in.

It was not taken out of the cart at all was it? - No, it was not.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17800112-19

65. THOMAS CULLEN was indicted for stealing 50 lb. wt. of iron nails, value 10 s. eight chimney tiles, value 6 d. and three pieces of stamped tin, value 3 d. the property of William Stiles Jones , January 10th .


I know nothing of the fact; I missed the things mentioned in the indictment.


There was about three quarters of a hundred weight of nails, in a bag, in a warehouse belonging to Mr. Jones opposite his house in Fleet-lane . On Friday afternoon I examined the bag, and found all the nails had been taken out but about eighteen pounds; I left the bag then and examined it again, and there were then but three pounds left. I placed Amos Adams , a boy, in the closet and bored a hole for him to see who took the things; the door was always left open in the day-time for the work-people to go in and out.


How old are you? - Turned of fourteen.

What did you see when you was put into the closet? - It was between nine and ten o'clock when I went up to the closet; at about ten o'clock the prisoner came into the room where I was.

Was he alone? - Yes; I saw him pull some things about and take some tiles and put eight or ten into his pocket.

Did he do any thing to the bag of nails? - I heard him shake the bag of nails, but I did not see him take any thing out; he took his pail and went up stairs; I went down stairs and told my young master of it.

What business had he up stairs? - He was white-washing the staircase.

Was he taken up when you made this discovery? - No.

William Stiles Jones. When we found the things were missing, as I understood that the prisoner lived out of the city, I applied to Justice Blackborough for a warrant; I found some stamped tin which belongs to me, in the prisoner's lodging.


I am a constable. I went with the warrant, and searched two houses of the prisoner's and found three pieces of tin plates, which Mr. Jones says are his, that is all I found in both houses.

Did you take the prisoner up? - No, he was taken up before.

Jones. I was not at home at the time; he was kept in custody, till I came home, and a constable sent for.

Was he searched? - No.

How comes the door of this warehouse to be open in the day time? - It is opposite to my house; it is left open for the work-people, and our people, to go in and out.


I was employed by a gentleman to whitewash the house. There was a place where

Mr. Jones put his lumbering things; I could not do it without removing some of Mr. Jones's things, such as chairs and other brokery things. Mr. Jones came and said I had taken some things; I said I had not; that if they had lost any thing I was sorry, I knew nothing of it. I moved the things as carefully as I could. As to the pieces of tin we swept them out; I took them up to be sure afterwards, I thought they were pieces of waste tin; I might move the tiles out of the way; I do not recollect it.

To Jones. What is the value of these pieces of tin? - Little or nothing; I have valued the three pieces at three-pence.

For the Prisoner.


I have known the prisoner between two and three years; he worked for me in all parts of the town; I never heard any harm of him. I have employed him in noblemen's house; I never heard any thing against him.


I have known the the prisoner about a year and a quarter; he rents a house of me now. I have employed him and recommended him. I always found him very honest; he is a poor man but a very honest man.


I have known the prisoner between two and three years; he has a very honest and just character; he always behaved very upright and just.


I have known the prisoner between seven and eight years; he has done a great deal of work for me; I never heard any thing dishonest of him before.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17800112-20

66. ELISABETH HILL was indicted for stealing a leather pocket-book, value 6 d. the property of Samuel Dillow , and a bank note of ten pounds, the said note, at the time of committing the felony, being the property of the said Samuel, and being then due and unsatisfied to the said Samuel the proprietor thereof , December 23d .


Upon Thursday the 23d of December as I was passing between Temple-Bar and St. Dunstan's church , the prisoner came up to me and said to me, how do you do; I stopped and looked at her; I thought it had been an acquaintance from Brentwood; I found it was not. She asked me to go with her and drink a glass of wine; I refused; she clasped me round the waist, I still refused to go with her. I got from her and walked on as far as St. Paul's church. I there felt in my pocket, and missed my pocket-book; I returned back, thinking to find the prisoner, but could not, till the next night, then I took her into custody; I had her into St. Clement's watch-house; I charged the watch with her. The next day we went before Sir John Fielding , and upon my oath he committed her.

Was she searched? - No.

Never? - No; it being the next night we thought it was made away with.

The pocket-book was not found upon her? - No. It was in my inside pocket; I had it in my pocket a minute before I met her.

For the Prisoner.

- ERERY sworn.

I have known the prisoner between six and seven years; she always bore a very honest just character. My husband was a master tailor; he has been dead four years; I carry on the business. The prisoner is a married woman; I have made clothes for her husband.


I have known the prisoner about twenty-two years. She bears a very honest character; I never heard any thing amiss of her in my life. I am a married woman, and have lived in the county of Middlesex seventeen years.


I am a mantua-maker. I have known the prisoner seventeen years; I never heard any thing against her before.


Tried by the London Jury before Mr. Justice ASHHURST.

Reference Number: t17800112-21

67. JOHN KETTLEBY was indicted for that he, in the king's highway, in and upon William Smith , feloniously did make an assault, putting him in corporal fear and danger of his life, and stealing a linen handkerchief, value 2 d. and two cloths, called horse-cloths, value 16 d. the property of the said William Smith , from his person , January the 10th .


I was stopped by the prisoner, at about half after two o'clock last Monday morning, as I was coming up Long-acre . He came up to the coach and asked who was in it? I told him not any one at all. He said directly, give me your watches and money, or I will shoot you through the head in a moment. He said that to me and my man, who was with me on the box. He asked what I had got in my hand? I said a bundle; he demanded that.

What did he say about your money? - He put a pistol to my head, and said give me your watches and money or I will shoot you through the head. I said I was a poor man and had no money. He asked what I had in my hand? I said a bundle; he took that bundle from me; there were two horse-cloths in it. When he had taken the bundle he went a second time to the coach door, and looked through the glass and found there was nobody there; he came back and presented a pistol again to my head and said, your watches and money or I will shoot you through the head; we told him we had got none; he then went and opened the coach door. I thought we must die if he came again, and therefore jumped off the coach-box and laid hold of him by the right-hand and got him somehow on the ground. I found he was very strong and I called to the coachman who was along with me to help me as soon a possible. He got down as soon as he could, and assisted me. I called to the watchman; he came, and presently after about ten or a dozen more. The prisoner was very strong; I was afraid he would get from me; I secured him and took this pistol from him.

Was the pistol loaded? - No.


I was driving the coach with the last witness.

You have heard the account he has given, is that a true account? - Yes; I don't know any thing more than what he has said.


I am a watchman; I was called by Smith; I came up as soon as possible and took the prisoner into custody; he seemed to be a very strong man.


I have no friend in town; I came on Friday last from Northampton.

GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. JUSTICE ASHHURST.

Reference Number: t17800112-22

68, 69. MARY JONES and MARY SMITH were indicted for stealing two gold rings, value 4 s. the property of Ann Whitman , January 5th .

(The witnesses were examined apart at the request of the prisoners.)


The prisoners came into my shop and desired to see some plain gold rings; my servant gave them this packthread with eight gold rings on it.

I suppose you know nothing of that but what your servant told you? - I heard Mary Jones , as I afterwards knew, when I saw her, by her voice, ask the girl if she had any plain gold rings to sell; the next thing I heard was the rings fall down upon the ground. After she gave the rings into her hand, she said she wanted a shift which she had bought in the morning at our shop.

Had she bought any shift in the morning? - She agreed for it; as the girl turned her back to them, as I suppose to get the shift, she let the rings fall and this I heard her say, Alas! young woman I have had an accident, I have let the rings fall. My servant said you should not have untied them (for it is a rule with us not to let them undo rings) upon hearing this I went into the shop immediately; my servant was on the other side of the compter looking for them; there were six lying on the compter which she had picked up, there were eight on the string; for fear any mistake should happen, I looked over my bills and found there were two missing;

I said there were two rings missing; I told my servant to go round the compter again, as she came round the compter I said, look about you will find them; I suspected the prisoners; I said I insisted upon the rings being found before they went out of the shop; I said that to Jones; she went back again and just as she had got round by the tall one, we both heard one ring drop distinctly; I said there is one; as soon as I spoke we heard another drop; they were both dropped from Jones; she stood at a distance from the other prisoner; she was very abusive to me; I detained her and sent for a constable, and the boy brought Mr. Halliburton.

Where do you live? - The corner of Russell Court, Bridges Street; my man servant and Mr. Halliburton took the prisoners to Sir John Fielding 's; my man came back directly; I was hurried a great deal and did not then observe that one of the rings was brass; I found that afterwards.

You are sure that brass one is one of the rings that dropped from her? - Yes; I then said to my young man these women have got two rings about them, they may have something else we had better send up; just as we were talking about it, Halliburton came down and advised me to go to the Brown Bear ; I went there; they took the prisoners into a parlour; they would not let the men search them, they desired them to be decent; I said I had better search them myself; the people there bid me search them close as gold rings lay in a small compass; I first searched the little one but found no ring upon her; I went behind a screen, they took her away; then I had the tall one; while I was behind the screen with the tall one, Mr. Burton and some people were by the fire side in the parlour with the little one; a gold ring dropped from the little woman, which is Mary Smith ; when they said she had dropped a ring, she said, O it is only a brass ring which I bought to deceive my husband; it dropped off my finger.

What was the value of the two rings? - I suppose about 14 or 15 s. I never weighed them.

Prisoner Jones. Whether you had examined if the rings were not all gold, till Halliburton returned to you to desire that? - He never desired me.

- DONALLY sworn.

Was you in your mistress's shop when the two prisoners came into it? - I was.

What did they ask for? - If we sold gold rings. I shewed them eight gold rings which were on a string.

Was the string tied? - Yes; I am certain of it.

So that they could not have tumbled off unless the string was untied? - I am certain of that; I gave them to Mary Jones , she said the ring was not for her, it was for the other lady meaning Mary Smith ; she gave them to her and desired she would fit herself; when she gave them to Mary Smith , Mary Jones desired I would look out a shift body; she had been with me before in the morning and desired I would lay it by till the afternoon; while I was looking it out I heard the rings fall upon the floor; I went round the compter and told her she should not have untied them; they both seemed very much frightened; they said they were very sorry at such an accident happening, and begged I would be very careful to pick them all up; I looked very carefully and found only six; my mistress, for fear I had made a mistake, looked over her bills and found two wanting; she then desired I would go round and find them, for she would have them before the women left the shop; I then went round; I had not been there more than two minutes before I heard two rings drop, very distinctly, one after the other.

Did you go towards Mary Jones or Mary Smith ? - I went between them both; but Mary Smith stood up close by the compter at the end of it on the mat.

How far was that off? - Not more than three quarters of a yard.

Could you distinguish where they fell from? - By where I found them, and by the found, I am almost sure they fell from Mary Jones ; my mistress then suspecting what they were, told them she would send

for a constable. Mary Jones behaved very insolent and told her she had no right to detain her, and then she attempted to make her escape from the shop, which she would have done if my mistress had not come round the compter and prevented her; a constable was sent for who took her into custody; after that we found that one of the rings she had dropped was a brass one.

Was that before or after you had candles? - They came in just before candles were lighted; but by the time that they dropped the rings the candles were lighted.

Halliburton took them away did he? - Yes.

Did he return to your mistress afterwards? - Yes; he did.

What did he come for? - He came to desire my mistress to go to Sir John Fielding 's.

Did she tell Halliburton what she had discovered? - Yes; at that very time my mistress was going to send the journeyman there to let Mr. Halliburton know of it, but he came down in the interim.

Did you go up to the Brown Bear ? - Not till after they had been searched.

Mary Jones . When her mistress came into the shop, she asked her if she untied the rings; and she said she believed she gave them to us untied.

I don't know what I might say when I was very much hurried, but I can be upon my oath that when I gave them into the hands of Mary Jones they were tied, that I am certain of.


I was sent for by Mrs. Whitman.

You took the two prisoners up there? - I did.

Did you return to her after they were taken to the Bear? - I went back to tell her to come up; when I had got back she had found that one of the rings of the number that were taken off the gound was a brass one; and she desired they might be searched.

Did he tell you that at her house? - Yes; the prisoners begged I might search them with decency; Mrs. Whitman said, Mr. Burton let me alone I will search them myself; she took the little one behind a screen in the parlour at the Bear to search her, she found nothing upon her; she was then turned into the room from behind the screen, and the other prisoner was taken behind the screen; at the time she was searching her there was something dropped from the little one; I looked about some time, at last I found this ring (producing it.)

Are you sure that was dropped by the little one? - I am; there was no one near her.

Mrs. Whitman was then behind the screen with the tall one? - Yes; this is the ring I found upon the floor.

Mrs. Whitman. I believe this to be my ring.

What did she say? - When I found the ring, she said, that is worth nothing, it is only a brass ring; it is mine; I bought it to deceive my husband because I pawned my gold one.

To the prosecutrix. Did you look at her hands when you searched her? - I believe she had none in her hands, but I cannot say.

Mary Smith . I had my gloves on when I was searched, and in pulling my glove off afterwards it came off; I went into the shop to buy another ring to change that because it was too large.

To Halliburton. Had she gloves on? - I saw no gloves.

To the prosecutrix. Had she gloves on? - No; she had no gloves on when I searched her.


I went in the morning with this woman, whose husband was gone to sea, to buy a shift, the young woman agreed for 4 s. 9 d. she had a shift; I had not sufficient money to pay for both; I said if she would lay it by till evening I would call for both, but if she should meet with a better customer not to hinder herself; we went in the evening to fetch the shift away and to change the ring which was upon her finger as it was too big; a lesser would suit her, and she might possibly change it for something to boot; when the shift was brought she asked for the rings; accidentally they fell upon the ground; I said you had better take the candle and search if any are missed; she said we should not have untied them; the gentlewoman came out of the

parlour and said, how came it the rings are not tied? I said I don't know, but they are all dropped; it is best to search; they were searched for, she found the rings upon the floor. She took the bill and said there should be sixteen rings, here are but fourteen; where are the other two? They brought the candle round the compter, and said here are the other two, they found them; she pulled her black silk glove off; and it frequently did as she told me drop.


What she has said is the truth; that is my own ring, upon my word and honour; I never had a brass ring to deceive my husband; that is what Mr. Halliburton is pleased to say; we were committed yesterday, and had not time to send for our friends.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice NARES.

[Fine. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

Reference Number: t17800112-23

70. JANE WILLIAMS was indicted for stealing a silver watch, value 20 s. the property of William Redman , Dec. 24th .


I lost a watch on Christmas-eve out of my back room.

Where is your house? - In Brooks Market ; the prisoner came in with my sister to bespeak a pad and cushion for her hair; my mother and I asked her to sit down by the fire-side in the back room; I had broke the glass of my watch the night before, and had hung it over the fire-place till I could get a glass for it; after she had bespoke the pad and cushion, she said she had a box at an inn she wanted somebody to fetch and she would come again at seven in the evening to get my brother to go for it, instead of which she came about five o'clock; I asked her to sit down in the back room, and sent my eldest daughter to fetch my brother. The prisoner said what is it o'clock? I looked at my watch and said it is about half after five; a customer came then to be shaved; I went into the shop to shave him and the prisoner then asked my mother if she would drink a glass of any thing.

That was while you was in the shop? - Yes, I heard it; there is only a glass door between the shop and back room, which always stands open. My mother said she did not want any thing, she was going to tea; the prisoner said she should like to have something, it was very cold, and she sent my mother out for a quartern of gin. While my mother was gone the prisoner went out. There was nobody else in the room when my mother went out but a child not five years old. My mother came in and said the watch was taken away; I said then, that woman must have taken it.

Do any other persons live in your house besides you and your mother? - Yes, I have lodgers.

Could not some of the lodgers come into the back room? - There was no other person in the back room.

Can you be sure no other person was in the back room? - Yes, I am sure there was not; my mother was not gone a minute.

How far did your mother go to the alehouse? - About four or five doors. When my mother came back, the prisoner was gone and the watch too.

Did you follow the prisoner? - No, I did not. I went to the top of the street but could not see any thing of her; I never saw her again till I was sent for by Justice Clerk. I charged her with the fact she denied it.

Was the watch found? - No.

What sort of a watch was it? - A silver watch, I take it to be worth two guineas; the justice set it down at twenty shillings.

An Officer. My Lord, the prisoner says she cannot speak English; she is a Welsh woman.

To the Prosecutor. Did she speak English when she came to you? - Yes, very good English.

To the Officer. Did she tell you in English or Welsh she could not talk English? - In very good English. She says now she has a cold and cannot speak.


The prisoner came to my son's house on Christmas-eve in the forenoon to bespeak a pad and cushion for her hair; she came with my daughter-in-law. I asked her to sit down

in the back-room; the watch hung over the fire place.

How long did she stay? - About half an hour.

Did she come again? - Yes, about five o'clock. She said she had a box to fetch from an inn, and wanted my other son to fetch it; I sent my daughter for him; when she was gone the prisoner said she wanted something to drink; I went to fetch a quartern of gin. When I returned, the watch and the prisoner were both gone. I could not be absent more than two minutes. I left nobody in the room but the woman and the child.

Was there any body in the room when you returned? - Nobody but the child.


I met the prisoner in Holbourn and went with her to my brother's on Christmas-eve.


I know nothing of it.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Lord Chief Baron SKYNNER .

[Whipping. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

Reference Number: t17800112-24

71. MARY COCKERTON was indicted for stealing a guinea and four shillings in monies, numbered , the property of David Hughes , January 1st .


I was at the King's Head, St. Giles's , Saturday-was-week, about nine in the morning. I had three guineas in my pocket. I had been up almost all night, because I follow chair-work; I left the three guineas there for fear I should lose them and drawed four shillings. The prisoner was there; we went out together; she persuaded me, because it was a strange house, to go back and get my money. I went back and got it; then she told me she would take me to a place where I should be used well and taken care of:

Was you in liquor? - Yes, a little matter, not much.

Did you go with her? - Yes.

Where to? - I do not know the name of the place, nor the house; it was a little way from thence. She shewed me a bed and put me to bed; she sat by the bedside; before I went to sleep I felt something stirring under my head. I had put my breeches under my head; I felt in my breeches pocket, and my money was gone. She sat on the bed the whole time; there was no body else in the room.

Was she in the room then? - Yes; there was a guinea and a half lay on the bed close to her; when she got up I charged her with having it; she began to swear and use me very ill, and said she knew nothing about it. I got up directly and went to the office in Litchfield-street.

Can you tell how much money you had in your pocket? - I had three guineas when I left the King's Head.

What were the pieces? - Two guineas and a half, and the rest in silver. I lost a a guinea and the silver.

You went and complained to a magistrate and had her taken up? - Yes.

Was she searched? - Not that I know of; I staid at the office till they brought her there. There came a parcel of women up stairs when I got up, and I was afraid of my life.

What did she say before the justice? - She said very little.

Was not you very much in liquor? - Not very much.

She said she would take you to a house to be taken care of? - Yes.

Had not you a home of your own? - Yes, but I did not care to go there till I was better.

How do you know you had your money when you was in the house? - I counted it before I went to bed, because I had a suspicion.

Could it not drop out of your breeches when you put them under the bolster? - Not without somebody took them out.

Prisoner. Whether there was not another woman in the house besides me?

Hughes. There was nobody in the room but her, till after I missed the money.

Did you look at all behind the bolster where

you laid your breeches, to see if the money was dropped out? - I did look, there was none.

- MACARTY sworn.

I am a watchman. I have seen the prisoner several times picking up men; I know nothing about this money.


I have no witnesses; I know no more of the gentleman's money than the child unborn.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17800112-25

72. JOHN NIXON was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John Berrow , on the 30th of November , about the hour of one in the night, and stealing four silver tea-spoons, value 10 s. a silver pap-spoon, value 2 s. a pair of silver tea-tongs, value 5 s. and 120 half-pence, the property of the said John Berrow , in his dwelling-house .


On the 30th of November I went to bed about twelve o'clock. When we were in bed my wife said she thought she heard a noise below, she thought it might be the dogs; I did not give much heed to it.

Where do you live? - At the King's Head in Little Queen-street, Lincoln's-Inn-fields . She desired my daughter to listen, which she did but heard no more noise.

Nobody got up? - No. In the morning I got up a little after five, as I was to go out early; I went into the bar and found the cupboard of the bar broke open.

Did you miss any thing out of it? - Yes, we missed four tea-spoons, a pap-spoon, a pair of tea-tongs, and a quantity of half-pence, which my wife put in over night.

Is she here? - No.

When do you know of their being there yourself? - We make use of them three or four times a day; they are usually kept there. The prisoner has owned to every thing we have lost. I was sent for by Jones the constable; a gentleman had stopped the tea-tongs, which was the means of bringing the other things to light.


I am a gold-beater. On Thursday the 2d of December, a boy, who is in court, brought some silver to me to sell.

Was that the prisoner? - No. He said he had it from the prisoner; I looked at it and found it was a pair of tea-tongs cut into twenty pieces; I stopped him and the silver and took him before Justice Girdler, who committed him that night till the other boy was found.


How old are you? - Twelve years next June.

Do you know the nature of an oath? - No.

Do you know that you have taken an oath just now? - No.

You do not know what you did when you laid your hand upon that book? - Yes:

What did you do? - Took my oath.

What did you swear to do? - To speak the truth.

Do you know the consequence, if you should tell any thing that is not true, after you have taken that oath? - No.

Do you know that any ill-consequence will happen to you, if you speak any thing which is not true, after you have taken that oath? - No.

You do not know what the consequence will be if you take a false oath? - No.

Court. He cannot be examined.

To Mr. Wooley. In consequence of this boy bringing some silver, and of something he told you, you went to Justice Girdler's? - Yes, I took him to Justice Girdler; he gave information, and the other boy, the prisoner was taken up the next day and brought before Justice Girdler.

Was you there when the prisoner was brought before the justice? - Yes.

What did he say before the justice? - He denied every thing at first; he said he found it among some ashes.

Did the prisoner in your hearing own that he gave that silver to the other boy? - Yes; he said he found it in some ashes; he said when he found them that he cut them to pieces with a knife and stone, as he thought they would sell the better. He was committed for further examination, and I was ordered to advertise them; I did not advertise them, because Berrow called and saw them, and said he thought they were his, the prisoner was then taken before Justice Girdler, and after we came away: - a witness is here who will tell you that he confessed the whole.

Prosecutor. Here are the initials of my name on one of the pieces; two letters of my name and one of my wife's, J. E. B. those letters were on the tongs I lost.


I am a constable. I was present at the prisoner's examination; the first time he was committed for further examination; the second time he was brought up he confessed that he broke into Mr. Berrow's house; that he got on the leads and broke through the sash into the kitchen, when he went through the passage and got into the bar, and that he took out of the cupboard four silver teaspoons, a pap-spoon, and five shillings' worth of half-pence; he said he sent the pap-spoon to pawn by this boy for two shillings.

What is that boy's name? - Samuel Crafts .

Did he tell you where it was pawned? - Yes, at one Mr. Clark's, in Laystall-street, Cold-Bath-fields. He said there were two tea-spoons pawned at Mr. Lowe's, on Clerkenwell-green, for two shillings. I went there and found them also.

Berrow. I went with the constable to the pawnbroker's with a search warrant, and Mr. Clark readily gave up the spoon and Mr. Lowe the two tea-spoons.

To Bertell. Have you got the spoons here? - Yes; the prisoner said he lost the other two tea-spoons out of his pocket coming down Holbourn, just after he committed the robbery. As for the tea-tongs, he said he broke them to pieces, and sent a boy to sell them in Fullwood's-rents, and he was to give him a few half-pence for his trouble. As to the five shillings' worth of halfpence he said he had spent them.


How old are you? - Not twelve yet.

Have you taken an oath? - Yes.

Do you know the nature of an oath? - No.

Do you know the consequence of speaking falsely after you have taken that oath? - No, I do not.

Court. I cannot examine him.


My husband is a pawnbroker.

Do you know the spoon that is produced? - Yes.

Who was it brought by? - Craft's mother uses our shop.

To Bertell. All the things were pawned by the little boy? - Yes.

(The spoons were deposed to by the prosecutor.)

Prosecutor. They are part of the things which were in the cupboard.

Did you examine to see how the house had been broke, and in what manner the person got into it?

Prosecutor. Yes; we found the person had got in through a pane of glass in the window; he had a great way to drop down, I suppose seven feet, and had broke the frame of the sash.

Are there any shutters to the windows? - No; it is a back window on some leads which come to the back of the house.


I am thirteen years old; I have a father but he has broke his thigh and cannot come here.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17800112-26

73. ANN MARSHALL was indicted for stealing two linen handkerchiefs, value 1 s. three pair of linen sleeves, value 18 d. two muslin neckcloths, value 18 d. and three linen stocks, value 6 d. the property of James Clark , December 23d .

MARY BOND sworn.

I am servant to Mr. Clark who keeps a pawnbroker's shop ; the prisoner usually came to our shop to pledge things; she came the 23d of December, between seven and eight in the morning, and pledged a child's shirt and cap for two-pence, she came again and pawned a cheque apron; she then robbed the shop of some things. Mr. Dinmore found them in her lodging.

Do you know of any thing that was lost? - Ye, the shop had been robbed several times, but we did not know who did it. She came a third time and pledged a gown; I suspected it was her who robbed the shop.

Did you miss any thing that day? - Yes, immediately after she went out the second time.

What did you miss? - I do not know what was missed; she took several things off the shelf.

Then you did not see her take any thing off the shelf? - No; the shelf was stripped of the things; I do not know what they were.

Was that shelf near where she was? - Yes, she stood in the box where the shelf was.

She came again a third time? - Yes, to pledge a gown; my mistress placed me behind some steps, at the end of the compter, while she went out, and I saw the prisoner get upon the compter two different times. She could not see me. She took some blue and white handkerchiefs the first time; the second time she took three stocks and a pair of sleeves; she then went out. My mistress immediately called her back, took her into the kitchen, and called one of the men; the man came in and saw her drop the blue and white handkerchief from under her arm; I saw her drop the stocks and sleeves; I took them up. My mistress sent for Dinmore, the constable.


On the 23d of December I was at work at Mrs. Clark's; she called me and said she had got a thief, and desired me to detain her. The prisoner tried to get by me two or three times; I desired her to let me look under her arm; she let me look under her right arm, but refused to let me look under her left. I gave her a chuck under the arm, and the handkerchief and some other things dropped from her; I do not know what they were, but the handkerchief I saw under her arm, and saw the other things drop, but I do not know where they dropped from. She went down upon her knees, and lifted up her hands, and called God to witness that she knew nothing of the matter.

(They were produced in court and deposed to by Mrs. Bond.)


I was sent for to take charge of the prisoner; I saw her in the room; she wanted to go home; I asked her where her lodging was; she told me; I went to her lodging

and saw two or three distressed children and a man lying ill; I said I was come for some things for their mother; they said their mother had not been at home a great while, perhaps they were at their sister's, two doors off; I went there and found these sleeves (producing them) rolled up in a basket; took them and shewed them to Mr. Clark; he said they were taken from his shop; I said to her, you have made some wild protestations of your innocence, what do you say to this now? She then confessed she took them in the morning, and she said that necessity drove her to it.


A person gave me the sleeves and stocks to wash for her. I went to Mr. Clark's to pawn a gown and picked up a handkerchief at the door as I went. I have large family in great distress.

GUILTY of stealing the goods to the value of 10 d.

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Whipping. See summary.]

Reference Number: t17800112-27

74, 75. DOROTHY SMITH and MARY SAUNDERS were indicted for stealing a pewter pot, value 1 s. the property of John Stevens , and a pewter pint pot, value 10 d. the property of Robert Bates , January 12th .


The tallest of the prisoners (Saunders) came into my house yesterday afternoon between four and five o'clock, and called for a pint of beer; the other prisoner came to her before she had drank it; they drank that and called for another, before they had drank the other Saunders was going out of the house; I had some suspicion they were such persons; I have lost eight dozen of pots since July last; as she was going out I laid hold of her arm and said I believed she had got something more than her own; she said, what do you mean by that? I said I believe you have a quart pot; and felt down one side of her clothes and felt a quart pot; I felt down the other side and felt a pint pot, as I supposed it to be, through her clothes, it proved so afterwards; I sent for an officer and gave him charge of both the women; we went before Justice Blackborough, there he searched her and found a quart pot of mine, and a pint pot of Mr. Bates's.

Was any thing found upon the other prisoner? - Nothing at all.

Did you see the other do any thing? - I saw them both go to the table; they sat by the fire when they first came in.

Did you see her take any thing? - I did not.

(The pots were produced in court by the constable, and deposed to by the prosecutor.)


I know nothing of it; I did not know what she did.


Smith and I went in to have a pint of beer at four o'clock (I have two small children; they had had no victuals) I was going to take them some drink; I bid her stay, the gentleman came after me and stopped me; I was going to carry some drink home and bring the pot back again.


SAUNDERS GUILTY of stealing the pots to the value of 10 d.

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

[Whipping. See summary.]

Reference Number: t17800112-28

76. THOMAS DALLERMAN was indicted for that he in the king's highway, in and upon Elizabeth Welch did make an assault, putting her in corporal fear and danger of her life, and stealing from her person 12 s. in monies, numbered, the property of the said Elizabeth , December 31st .


On last Tuesday was a week, which was the 31st of December, between five and six in the afternoon, as I was going home between Hayes Turnpike and Southwell , about half a mile from Hayes, my son was carrying a lantern before me, a man rose out of the ditch and pushed him down, or

knocked him down, upon the lantern, I cannot say which, and put out the candle in the lantern; he then took hold of me and demanded my money, else he would blow my brains out; I gave him the halfpence out of one pocket and the silver out of the other; I gave him the silver first; he said, d - n your eyes! this is not all; give me all, or I will blow your brains out.

Do you recollect how much money you gave him? - No; I believe it was about 12 s. I don't know exactly what I had in my pocket; my son ran towards the turnpike to get help for me; I went as fast as I could home to get help to see whether my son was murdered in the road or not; I expected he was dead in the road.

Do you know who made this attack upon you? - No; only he had passed by me about a quarter of an hour before, and I observed his coat.

Did you know who it was? - No.

Do you know him now? - I believe I do if I see him.

How do you know that it was the same person that made the attack upon you? - My son saw him go all the way before; when I saw him come out of the ditch I saw he had the same clothes on as when he passed me.

Have you ever seen him since? - Yes, at Mr. Griffith's; he was then in a different dress to what he had on when he stopped me.

Did you know him then? - No; he was in a different dress.

Then you could not know him if you was to see him again? - I don't know that I should.

You have not seen him at any time since to be certain of his person? - No; I have not.


How old are you? - Thirteen.

Do you know the nature of an oath? - No.

What will be the consequence, if now you are sworn, you should speak false? - I should go to the devil.

Were you with your mother on the evening when this robbery happened? - Yes; the man passed us between Hayes Turnpike and Southwell.

Did you take any particular notice of the man that passed you? - Yes.

How came you to take any notice of him? - Because I had some suspicion of him.

Where did he go when he passed you? - Into the hedge.

Did he go far after he passed you before he went into the hedge? - Yes; it may be about a quarter of a mile.

Then he stopped? - Yes; he stooped himself into the hedge.

Did you see him stop? - Yes.

How far was he from you? - About twenty yards.

Did you keep sight of him till he stopped? - Yes; when I came opposite to him he jumped out of the hedge and kicked me in the head, and knocked me down in the road upon the top of the lantern.

What did he do then? - I did not see any thing after that; I ran back to the turnpike.

How soon did you come to your recollection to see what was doing? - I cannot tell; I did not stay to see any thing else; I got up directly and ran to the turnpike for assistance.

Did you, before the man knocked you down, take so much notice of him, and see him so well, that you should know him again? - Yes; I think I should know him again.

Have you ever seen him since? - Yes, at Mr. Bishop's.

Did you know him then? - No.

Was he in the same dress then that he was in the night he committed the fact? - - No; he was in a different dress.

Did you know him as soon as you saw him? - Yes.

How long afterwards was it that you saw him at Mr. Bishop's? - It was on the Sunday after.

The robbery was committed on the Friday? - Yes.

Do you know how he came to be taken up? - No.

Look round the court and see if you see him now? - (looks round!) that is the man (pointing to the prisoner.)

Are you quite sure that is the man that knocked you down that evening? - Yes.

Did you hear him examined at Mr. Bishop's? - Yes.

Did he say any thing about it there? - No.


Do you know how the prisoner came to be taken up? - Yes; by a warrant from Mr. Bishop on the information of George Jarvis and Mrs. Welch; I took him at Ricklesworth, on Sunday the 2d of January.

Did you search him? - Yes; I found nothing upon him but a six-pence in an old pocket.

Did you carry him before Mr. Bishop? - Yes.

Were you present when he was examined before Mr. Bishop about this robbery? - Yes; he denied it all on the Sunday.

Did he say any thing about it at any other time? - Yes; on the Monday he confessed both the robberies.

Where was he examined then? - Before Mr. Bishop.

Who was present? - John Welch , Edward Nichols , and Mrs. Welch; he confessed robbing Mrs. Welch and George Jarvis .

What was said by Mr. Bishop or any body else to induce him to make this confession? - When he was examined on the Sunday, he said he had no coat but that he had on; we went to his lodgings and found the coat; Welch said he had that coat on at the time of the robbery.

Where does he live? - At Ricklesworth; I believe he is a collar-maker.

Did you search his house? - Yes; and found the coat he was said to have under the bed; that is the coat he has on now.

What coat had he on at Mr. Bishop's? - - A thick-set frock.

On the second day what promises were made to induce him to confess? - No promises at all; when we came back with the coat, he went into a private room and confessed he had robbed Mrs. Welch and Mr. Jarvis.

Did you hear him told it would be better for him to confess? - Yes; Mr. Bishop told him he would shew him all the favour he could if he would confess the truth and own what he had done with the money.

Did he say that before he confessed the robbery? - No; not till after he had made the confession.

What was said to him before he made a confession of the robbery; was any thing said to make him expect any favour if he made a confession? - Nothing more than that.

Was that said? - Yes; that about the money.

Then he was told before he confessed that it would be better for him to confess? - No; that was after he confessed.

Was there any promise made him before he confessed? - No, not in my hearing.

Upon what occasion did Mr. Bishop tell him if he told the truth he would shew him as much mercy as he could? - To own what he had done with the money.

Prisoner. They said at the public house, before I went to the justice, it would be better for me to confess; both of these gentlemen made that promise.

When you had him at the public house, before you went to the justice, did you say it would better for him to confess? - Not to my knowledge I did not.

Speak out any thing you know? - I did not.

Did any body else make him any promises, or make use of any means to induce him to confess? - No; not that I know of.


I had a warrant to take up the prisoner on the information of George Jarvis ; I took him at Ricklesworth.

At his own house? - No; we sent for him to an alehouse and said we wanted to speak to him.

What did you say to him in order to induce him to confess? - Not a single word; we carried him from thence to the Angel, and then to Mr. Bishop's.

What did you say to him there to induce him to confess? - Not a word.

What did he say before Mr. Bishop? - On the Sunday he denied it strongly.

Was any thing said about a coat? - He denied having any coat but the one he had on, for three months back.

Upon that was there any search made for a coat? - A search warrant was granted the next day; I searched at his house and found the coat under the bed, between a straw mattrass and a featherbed.

Was that the coat he has on now? - Yes.

When he was carried before Mr. Bishop after that, what did he say about the robbery? - He then confessed it.

What did you say in order to induce him to make that confession? - Not a word that I know of.

Prisoner. Did not you both say it would be better for me to tell the truth?

Welch. We did not. I found in his lodging the coat, a stopping iron, and a plough paddle. When I returned with them I said to him, now, my friend, I must confine you closely, for here is the coat you denied; he said then, that he wanted to save himself; I went out with him and he begged and prayed of me to intercede with Mr. Bishop for him; I told him I would not hear it; he then confessed to Mr. Bishop, and then he went into a room and told it to five or six people without being asked any thing at all about it.

What was the iron you found? - An iron they stuff collars with; he owned that that was what he had, robbed them with instead of a pistol.

To Mrs. Welsh. Do you recollect what coloured coat the man had on that robbed you? - Yes, a light-coloured ragged coat;

To William Welch . What sort of coat had the man on who passed you on the road? - A light-coloured coat. He had another coat on at the justice's.

Should you know the coat he had on that night? - Yes.

Was it like the coat he has on now? - Yes; it was a light-coloured coat torn behind.

Was it that coat? - It was like it, I cannot be sure.


They persuaded me to confess at the public house, and said, if I confessed, they might be of some service to me.

GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17800112-29

77. THOMAS GRINLEY was indicted for stealing a hair trunk, value 2 s. a silk gown, value 20 s. a silk petticoat, value 5 s. two linen table-cloths, value 7 s. six towels, value 5 s. three cotton bed gowns, value 8 s. three muslin aprons, value 10 s. a linen apron, value 18 d. three muslin neck-cloths, value 3 s. apair of cotton stockings, value 1 s. a child's robe blanket, value 1 s. three child's linen shirts, value 18 d. a pair of linen sheets, value 5 s. four linen pillow-cases, value 2 s. three child's linen caps, value 6 d. two pair of linen gloves, value 6 d. three yards of thread lace, value 5 s. four linen shifts, value 8 s. and twelve child's linen clouts, value 3 s. the property of John Plucknett , December 30th .


I live in Dean-street, Soho. I took a coach at the Bull Inn in Smithfield, in order to go as far as No. 16, at the Seven Dials ; when I came there I got out and left a child there; I was going into the coach, intending to go on further; I left the trunk in the coach when I got out; when I went towards the coach again, it was drove away. The prisoner was taken up on the Monday, this was on the Thursday. At the time I left the trunk in the coach it was locked; I do not know the person of the coachman; I did not tell him when I took him, that I was going any farther, nor did I bid him stay when I got out at the Seven Dials.

Did you pay him when you got out? - No, I did not.


I live at the Bull in Smithfield; Mrs. Plucknett was there; my mistress sent me to call a coach; I went to the stand and brought the prisoner with his coach; I carried the trunk to the coach; the coachman put it into the coach. I am sure the prisoner is the coachman; I knew him again the next day, when I saw him afterwards.


Mr. Plucknett came on Monday evening to Sir John Fielding 's, and gave information that he had discovered who the coachman was, in consequence of which I went to the prisoner's lodgings; I found the prisoner in bed, and in the room I found this trunk; the trunk was broke open and some things

were taken out of it; I took the trunk away to Sir John Fielding 's, with those things which were in it then, and the wife of the prisoner brought the other things which were taken out to Sir John Fielding's while we were there; they are in the same state in which they were delivered to me at Sir John Fielding 's.

(They were produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutrix.)


I was so much in liquor when I took the lady up that when I set her down I did not know whether I had my fair or not; I did not take the things meaning to keep them; I did not break open the box, I only drew one nail to see what was in the box.

To the Prosecutor. Did you observe him in liquor? - No.

To the Boy. Did you observe him in liquor? - No; he was sober; he said to me he was the sort.

Prisoner. That is, meaning I had good horses.

For the Prisoner.


I know the prisoner very well, he has lived with me between two and three years.

You keep hackney coaches? - I do. He always bore a very good character; I knew him for years before he came to me; this is the first time I ever heard of any thing of the kind. I knew him some years before he came into my service, when he lived with Mr. Jones the distiller in Cow-lane, six or seven years before he came to live with me; he always behaved very well as far as ever I knew; he has four small children, and his wife is now pregnant.


I have known the prisoner about five years; I never heard any thing but what was very good of him; he is a hard working man, and has a great family; he lived by Enfield-wash, he kept a little public-house there. I live at Enfield; he had always a good character, insomuch that my husband, if he was in town, would pass his word for a hundred pounds, for him; I have heard him say so.


Tried by the Second Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice NARES.

[Whipping. See summary.]

Reference Number: t17800112-30

77. MARY CONWAY otherwise NICHOLLS was indicted for stealing four china coffee cups, value 2 s. two china dishes, value 8 s. four china plates, value 2 s. four china cups, value 2 s. four china saucers, value 2 s. a china tea-pot stand, value 6 d. a china spoon-boat, value 2 d. a brass candlestick, value 6 d. a pair of spun silk stockings, value 1 s. and 20 l. in monies, numbered, the property of Mary Davis , widow , in her dwelling-house , January 3d .


I live in Tothil-street, Westminster . The prisoner took the things, mentioned in the indictment, last Monday was a-week; she lodged in my two-pair-of-stairs back room. She took 4 china coffee pots, 2 china dishes, 4 china plates, 4 tea-cups and saucers, and a china tea-pot stand; I lost one pair of silk stockings; and I missed 20 l. at several times. On Sunday was three-weeks, I had six shillings in my pocket; I lay with her, and about an hour after I laid down, she took it out of my pocket.

Why do you charge her with taking them? - There was nobody in the house but her, and they were found upon her. I found the coachman that drove her away; and he drove me to the place; he searched her lodgings and found up stairs the stand. I felt her hand in my pocket when she lay with me; she had three shillings, and she gave me the next morning, when I charged her with it, two sixpences out of it; she said she would not leave me while I had a bed to lie on.

She said that out of friendship to you? - No; she said possession was nine points of the law, and she would not go.

You turned her out at last did you? - I told her I was going to move, I was stripped so bare.

Cross Examination.

I believe you was so bare of money that you was obliged to sell your things to pay your rent? - I was.

This woman lived with you some time? - Five months.

What business did she carry on? - None.

What business did you carry on? - The coal trade, while I could; I lost forty pounds by her.

The morning she packed up to leave your

lodgings, you was present was not you? - No; I was below she was above.

Had she bought any china of you before this? - Yes, half a guinea's worth.

You did not know where she was going? - No; she desired the coachman not to tell where she was put down.

When you was before the magistrate you did not mention any thing about this money? - I do not know that I did.

I believe you sent to this young woman and told her, if she would give you some money you would not go on with this prosecution? - No; she offered me a guinea not to go on with it.

Court. What value do you put upon what you found in the house where she was? - About five shillings.

Counsel for the Prisoner. Are they here? - No.

Prisoner. I bought the tea-pot stand of her along with the half guinea's worth of china.

Prosecutrix. She did not buy it of me.


I went with Mary Davis to search the prisoner's lodgings. I was told by the people that kept the under floor, that the prisoner lived in the garret; it was in New-street, Carey-street, near St. Clement's church-yard. When I went into the room; I asked the prisoner if her name was Conway. Mary Davis stopped on the first floor. I said I had a search warrant to search her place. What for? said she. I said some china you have stolen from Mrs. Davis. She said she did not know that she had got any. I opened the door, and called for Mrs. Davis; she came up; when she came into the room she had four cups and saucers in her hand which she got from the people on the first floor; they said she had left them there. I examined all the prisoner's things over, and found some more china in her trunks, which Mrs. Davis said was her's. Some time after Mrs. Davis said, I want two china dishes. Said the prisoner, if the constable will go along with me I will find them. She went into Covent garden; to a woman in the market who went home and gave her the two dishes, which she gave Mrs. Davis. The prisoner said she had left them at that house a day or two before, and that she had only just come to her lodging.

Did she say they were her's? - No; she said they belonged to Mrs. Davis. When Mrs. Davis saw them, she said they belonged to her, and the other delivered them up directly.

Did she say she had bought them? - No.

Cross Examination.

The four cups and saucers were not in this woman's room at all? - No.

Where they were found you do not know? - No.

The only piece of china found in her room was the stand for the tea-pot? - Four coffee cups were found in her trunk, and that stand for the tea-pot. They are trifling things, but they were found in her trunk.

The prisoner claimed no property in these two dishes? - No; she said they were Mrs. Davis's.

Court. What said Mrs. Davis to her, did she charge her with having taken them away? - Yes. The prisoner said she did not know how she had taken them away, but said she had got them at such a place in Covent-garden, and would return them.

Counsel for the Prisoner. You could never have found out these dishes if she had not told you where they were? - No.

Court to the Prosecutrix. You said the other witness found these china cups? - They were in the first floor.

You said the constable found them? - He found the china up stairs, the coffee-cups and stand; the tea-cups were in the first floor.

GUILTY of stealing to the value of 5 s.

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Lord Chief Baron SKYNNER .

[Fine. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

Reference Number: t17800112-31

78. ROBERT HUGHES was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Samuel Lindsey , on the 29th day of November , about the hour of six in the night, and stealing a silk gown, value 15 s. a linen gown, value 10 s. a stuff petticoat, value 5 s. a flannel petticoat, value 2 s. a linen apron, value 2 s. a linen handkerchief, value 1 s. the property of Lucy Arnett , spinster ; a

woollen cloth waistcoat, value 5 s. a woollen cloth waistcoat, value 3 s. and a linen waistcoat, value 3 s. the property of the said Samuel, in his dwelling-house.


On the 29th of November, between the hours of five and six, I was drinking tea at my brother-in-law's, who is a silk dyer in Leadenhall-street. A Mr. Watkins, one of the witnesses, came to me and told me my house was broke open; I got up and went home and found the prisoner in custody of a constable; I went up stairs immediately to see what damage was done.

Court. Call Thomas Watkins first.


Do you know any thing of Mr. Lindsey's house being broke open and robbed? - Yes; I was going from Berry Street up Creed Church Lane, and heard Mr. Moore cry, stop thief!

Court. Call Mr. Moore.


I was going to a house in that neighbourhood opposite to Mr. Lindsey's, on the 29th of November, between five and six in the afternoon.

In what street does Lindsey live? - I think the name is Greyhound-alley ; I was alarmed by two young women who came up to me just as I knocked at the door and said there were thieves in the house opposite, Mr. Lindsey's house; one of the women was his daughter; I saw a light in the house up one pair of stairs, as if somebody was walking about with a candle; I waited at the door of the house where I was going; in about five or six minutes, or it might be near ten minutes; the light came down stairs, and came to the ground floor.

While the light was up one pair of stairs? could you see any body through the window? - I did not see any body up stairs; when they came down stairs they were alarmed, as there was an alarm in the neighbourhood that there were thieves in the house; they opened the window and peeped through the shutters; I saw a man's face; they put the light out immediately afterwards and two men came out of the house; one was the prisoner at the bar; I pursued him, he had a bundle under his arm.

You seised the prisoner? - Yes; the other man got off; they went different ways, the prisoner ran fifty or sixty yards before he was taken.

After you seised him did you take the bundle from him? - He dropped the bundle when I pursued him.

Did you take the bundle up? - No; I saw him drop it in the place where it was picked up; I delivered him into the custody of the constable, he was there waiting by the time I brought him back; his name is George Fleming .

Was he searched in your presence? - Not in my presence; when I delivered him to the constable I went to the house where I was going.

Who first told you there were thieves in the house? - Mr. Lindsey's daughter.

Was you present at any examination of the prisoner? - Yes; before the Lord Mayor; he said he knew nothing of the matter.


I went out on the 29th of November between five and six o'clock.

Did you leave any body in the house? - No; nobody.

The rest of the family had all been out before? - Yes.

Did you lock the door after you? - I pulled the street door after me; I did not put the key in, it is a spring lock; I was gone about a quarter of an hour; when I came back I saw a light in the house which I had not left when I went out; through the windows I saw a man in a white coat in the house up one pair of stairs; there were no shutters to the window; I went and fetched the constable.

Do you know the last witness Mr. Moore? - Yes.

Did you give him any information about it? - Yes; I saw him at a neighbour's house facing my father's; I told him I believed there was somebody in the house that should not be there; after that I went for a constable; when I came back the door was open and a great many people about it; the prisoner was brought into the house a little while after by Mr. Moore, and some others

My father was come back, then he gave charge of him to the constable.

Was the prisoner searched in your presence? - No.

When you went out are you sure you shut the door? - I am.

Are you sure it was locked after you? - Yes.

Prisoner. Whether I am the man she saw in the room with the white coat on.

Lindsey. No; he is not that man; that was a taller man.


What time did you go out that day? - I was out most of the afternoon; I went out about two or three o'clock; I left nobody at home but my daughter.

When you went back to your house what did you find there? - I saw a great many people about the door; when I went in I saw the prisoner in the shop in custody; that was near six o'clock; I then said I will go up stairs and see what he has been about; when I went up into the one pair of stairs room my bureau desk, which stands by the window, was broke open; he had tumbled all my papers about, but had not taken any thing that I could miss; I immediately came down stairs and then gave charge of him.

Was he searched in your presence? - No; he was searched before I came home; I was before my Lord Mayor when the prisoner was taken before his Lordship; he denied being in my house.


I was coming up Berry Street at the end of Creed Lane; I heard Mr. Moore cry stop thief! stop thief! several times; I stopped him under the gateway.

Did you see any body running away? - I put myself against the wall that I might not be knocked down; I put out my hand and laid hold of the prisoner; he turned fairly round and fell down; Mr. Moore came up and said d - n you, you rascal; you are down; he said I am, let me get up and I will surrender myself to you; a pistol was found near Mr. Lindsey's door; I followed him up to Mr. Lindsey's door; the daughter begged me to go to Mr. Allen's, dyer, in Leadenhall Street, and tell Mr. Lindsey his house was broke open; while I was gone the pistol was found on the ground.

Did you see it found? - No; I saw the pick-lock keys taken from him after I came back; there were seventeen I believe of them.

Was there any thing else found upon him but the keys? - No; nothing that I know of, but the goods were brought in which he had scattered about.


I happened to be in at my own house; I heard the cry of stop thief! upon that I went out, and I had not been gone above five yards before I saw the prisoner in the custody of Moore and another; they took him home to Mr. Lindsey's house; the constable searched him and found about sixteen or seventeen pick-lock keys upon him; in going along with him to Mr. Lindsey's house I stumbled over some loose clothes which lay in the alley as he ran from the place.

Whereabouts did they lie? - In the alley near Mr. Lindsey's, coming from Mr. Lindsey's house to mine, in the way he was taken.

Where was the prisoner when you stumbled over the things? - Just before me; they were carrying him to Mr. Lindsey's house.

Did you take up these things? - Yes; I took up some part of them; I don't know whether I took them all or not.

Did you carry them into Mr. Lindsey's? - Yes; I did.

Was any thing else in particular found on the prisoner but these keys? - Nothing that I know of; they brought in a pistol afterwards that they said was found; I did not see it found.


I am a constable; on the 29th of November Mr. Lindsey's daughter came for me; when I came to the house the prisoner was there; Mr. Moore and another man had hold of him; I asked who gave charge, Mr. Lindsey came up and gave me charge of him; I searched the prisoner and found sixteen pick-lock keys in his pockets; I found nothing else upon him.

Did you see the bundle of clothes that Hyams brought in? - Yes.

Samuel Lindsey . The clothes were brought to me; I have had them in my custody ever since; there is a silk gown and a linen gown the property of Mrs. Arnett, a coat and two waistcoats of my son's; a coat and waistcoat, and a linen waistcoat my property; all the women's clothes are the property of Mrs. Arnett; I know them to be her property; I have seen her wear them; there is a flannel petticoat, a quilted petticoat and other things; they were brought into my house by Hyams.

Hyams. I picked up the things and delivered them to Mr. Lindsey's daughter.

Mary Lindsey . These are the things I received from Hyams; I put them by themselves; the women's clothes are Mrs. Arnett's; the rest belong to my father; they were in the bottom drawer of the bureau, in the one pair of stairs room; I saw them there that day before the robbery.


I did not know the name of the building; I did not live far from it; I heard them cry, stop thief! as I came through the alley; I ran and I was knocked down; I kicked the keys before me going along Petty France, Westminster; the person who saw me pick them up is at Portsmouth.

To Mary Lindsey . When you went out was it before or after day-light? - It was about dusk; it was between five and six o'clock.

To Mr. Moore. When you saw this man come out of the house, was it before or after day-light? - It was after daylight; it was dusk, between five and six in the evening.

Was there day-light enough to see the people that came out of the house? - Not to discern the face of any man so as to know it without the assistance of lamps; it was too dark to identify the person of a man.

For the Prisoner.

- DAVIS sworn.

I sell bacon for the company at Bristol.

Do you know the prisoner? - I have known him fifteen years; he never bore a bad character to my knowledge.

Did you know him intimately? - Yes; and never knew any bad of him in my life time.


I have known the prisoner these three or four years; I never heard any thing bad of his character in my life, he is a biscuit baker; I kept a public house some time ago and he lodged with me.

Court to Lindsey. What is the value of the things that were taken out of your house? - I reckon them about 42 or 43 s. they were worth above that.

GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Reference Number: t17800112-32

79. JOSEPH BROOKS was indicted for stealing a wooden box, value 6 d. a dozen of perfumed wash balls, value 6 s. three pints of lavendar water, value 12 s. a pint of hungary water, value 4 s. an ounce of the essence of tubercuse, value 3 s. the property of James Paul Smith , January 10th .


Last Monday I sent my servant John Bourne with some deal boxes; among the rest there was a box containing the goods mentioned in the indictment; to be delivered at Blossoms Inn, Lawrence Lane; he came back and informed me two men had taken it from him.


On Monday night I was sent from Mr. Smith's with a box to Blossoms Inn, Lawrence Lane; I went through the market but that door was fast; the prisoner and another man stepped up to me.

Are you sure the prisoner is one of them? - I am certain of it; when I came to a place that I thought was the passage into the Inn, they both told me I could not get through there; the prisoner took the box from my head and gave it to the other, and said, you take this box into the warehouse; I supposed the person he delivered it to to be one of the porters of the Inn; I did not know the prisoner; he told me he would book it; he called the other man Mr. Thompson,

the other man took the box away and I never saw it afterwards; I followed the prisoner as he was to go and book it; the prisoner as soon as he came through the passage set off running; then I thought the box was stolen; I cried out stop thief! I thought till he began to run that he was the book-keeper.

Can you tell what was in this box? - It was perfumery goods, but I cannot tell what was in it.

To Mr. Smith. What were the contents of this box? - My clerk is here who packed it up.


I packed up the box; it contained the several articles mentioned in the indictment, (repeating them.)

What value do you put upon them? - About 30 or 40 s. they were delivered to the last witness.

To Bourne. Were the goods that were taken from you delivered to you by the last witness? - They were.


I met this man and another coming across Honey Lane Market; this man ran up to me, and asked for the book-keeper of Blossom's Inn, I said I did not know where he was; I walked on and he followed me. I am warehouse-man to the Morning-Post office.


Tried by the London Jury before Lord Chief Baron SKYNNER .

[Whipping. See summary.]

[Imprisonment. See summary.]

Reference Number: t17800112-33

80, 81. JOHN BENFIELD and WILLIAM TURLEY were indicted for traiterously and feloniously forging, counterfeiting, and coining a piece of false, forged, and counterfeit coin to the likeness and similitude of the good and lawful coin of this realm called a shilling , December 8th .

(The witnesses were examined apart at the request of the prisoners.)


I belong to Sir John Fielding .

You had I believe an information of a house in White's Alley, Chancery Lane? - Yes, in Bowling-pin-alley, Chancery Lane , Mr. Clarke had. On the 8th of December I went there in the evening at about seven o'clock; I went up stairs about half way up the stairs to the two pair of stairs room; there was a turning in the stairs, and it was very narrow from thence to the top about three or four steps; I then stood and saw both the prisoners at work.

How were they dressed? - I believe Benfield had the same clothes on that he has now; his great coat was off.

What were they at work about? - It was at a drawer, a kind of trough; I saw both their hands in the trough busy at work; I said to Mr. Clarke, there they are at work; the door was wide open, as I was going into the room I kicked against the steps, one of them I don't know which called out holloa; upon that Turley turned down the drawer where the moulds and flasks were; one of the moulds has the impression very clear; Turley catched hold of the flask and hit it against the window and broke two or three panes of glass in attempting to throw it out; I hit him with a stick on his arm and caused the flask to drop within the window, instead of going through the window. Turley attempted to run by me but I prevented it; and by that time Clarke and Jealous were in the room and had hold of them; when we took up the drawer where the mouldings were; there were patterns for half crowns and shillings; the impressions were chiefly broke, but some of them are very clear now; we examined the fire; there was a crucible on the fire three parts full of metal; Mr. Clarke will describe the metal.

Did you search either of the prisoners? - I held them while Jealous searched them; we found three crucibles, and the frame and the boards of the flask which makes the flask complete; there was some bad silver found on Benfield, and some in the room I believe, but I did not find them.

Cross Examination.

You are one of Sir John Fielding 's men? - I am.

You had an information? - Yes.

That information came from Mrs. M'

Ginnis I believe? - It might, I don't know; I had it from Mr. Clarke.

Do you know who the house belongs to? - I do not.

Do you know Mrs. M'Ginnis? - Yes; I would rather catch her than any of these men.

Where is this house? - In a little court in Bowling pin-alley.

The stair-case was extremely narrow? - Yes; on the top of it.

When you went up half way the door was wide open? - Yes.

The street door was wide open? - Yes.

How narrow may the stair-case be where you stood and saw the men at work? - Room enough for two to pass, till I came to the turning.

I believe there are rails at the top of the stairs? - I believe there may be; I did not take particular notice.

How many windows are there in the room? - One I believe.

Where was that? - To the right as I stood on the stairs.

Where was the fire place? - To the right too; I could not see the fire place on the stairs.

Where did the trough stand? - Close to the window; a child on the stairs where I stood could not help seeing them from foot to head.

What part of them was towards you? - Their backs were to me; the one stood at the end, the other at the side of the trough; they might have seen me if they had looked.

I need not tell you, as you know very well that you are entitled to a part of the reward if they are convicted? - That is nothing new to me.

What led Clarke and you to this house? - Mr. Clarke told me what he was going there for; I went with him; he told me he had received an anonymous letter.

You was lucky enough to go unperceived by these men till you saw them at this trough? - Yes.

Turley. Was my hat on or off? - I I don't know.

You say you saw two men working at that trough, was there room for two men to work at it? - There was room for three men to work at it; it was a drawer out of the chest of drawers.


Did you go in company with Clarke and Prothero to this house in Bowling-pin-alley? - I did; I was with Prothero; when he had secured them he desired I would search them; in Turley's pocket I found this tutenage.

Did you find any thing else in Turley's pocket? - Nothing else; in Benfield's pocket I found a bad shilling and a bad six-pence, and a good shilling and a good six-pence with it, in his other pocket I found some bits of cuttings, I believe they are bits of six-pences cut, it is bad seemingly; I found two shillings and a six-pence in the room behind the fire place, they are bad.

Was there any other money found in the room? - That is all that I have.


Did you go to this house with Prothero and Jealous? - Yes; I went next to Prothero up stairs; he turned back and told me they were both at work; he went up stairs; I heard the flasks and money fly; Turley threw the flask at the window, but it did not go through. We secured the prisoner. I then applied myself to the place where the flasks were; I picked up the sand which fell out of the flasks; I found a quantity of pieces of metal in the window; I found some black copper in the window likewise. I found these four shillings, they are counterfeits; they are quite finished. Upon the ground and in the sand I found these pattern shillings from which the others are cast, they are good. This crucible was in the fire with this metal in it; I poured it into the sand to cool it; it is a mixed metal. There were all the implements complete for coining, file, scowering-paper, a pair of cutters, crucibles, facing sand, and moulds.

The whole apparatus is complete? - Yes.

Court. Is there any aqua fortis? - No.

Cross Examination.

You have produced and specified every thing that was found in that room? - Yes.

You do not recollect any thing else which was in the room; you have brought every thing? - Every thing in that room.

Look at that money which is said to be taken out of Benfield's pocket? - There is a shilling and sixpence bad, and a shilling and sixpence good.

Is the bad money cut or cast? - One of them is cut I believe, and the impression put on afterwards; the other may be cut too, I rather think it is cut.

With all the implements you found in the room could a piece of money have been completed? - No; there could not in my opinion.

In the next place there is a fluid necessary to complete it? - No doubt of it.

For the purpose of throwing up the silver colour? - Yes.

Was there any thing else wanting? - No.

Without the pickle it remains of the colour you have produced it? - Yes.

Do you know who the house belongs to? - No. By information we heard that it belonged to Mrs. McGinnis.

Did either of the prisoners live in that house? - I do not know.

What made you go to this particular house? - An information.

What was the description of the house, by whom kept? - I do not know.

Have you any objection to tell from whom you received that information? - Yes.

Do not you know that it is necessary to prove the persons at work in these cases? - No, I do not know it.

You do not conceive it to be of the essence of the proof that they should be proved to be at work? - No; I do not.

Prothero told you they were at work? - He did.

You was contented with that information, you did not see them at work? - I could not see through him.

You saw nothing of that? - No.

Did you look over the house, to see if there was the appearance of any people lodging there? - I did.

Did you see any beds? - No.

You have never heard of Turley's being concerned in this business before? - Do not ask me that question.

He never was at Sir John Fielding 's or here before? - No.

Counsel for the Prosecution. Look at those four shillings, are they complete? - Yes.

Fit to put off? - Yes; they are bad.

There is every thing necessary for coining except the pickling? - Yes, every thing in the world; there was not one thing wanting.

Prisoner. You said there was a file and scowering paper in the room; there was no such thing.

Clarke. Whether this is a file, and this scowering paper (taking them in his hand) I leave to the court to judge.

Court. Have you particularly examined the pattern shillings with those found in the window? - I have not.

Court. You may do that now? - (Examines them) Here is a good one and a bad one; they agree with each other; two or three of them seem to be made from these patterns. I cannot swear to them; there is a mark in that one; a person may swear to it.


I am one of the moniers of the Mint. (Looks at the shillings found in the window which were complete) they are bad.


We called at the house of this Mrs. M'Ginnis or Barker, she went by the name of Barker. She invited us to go up stairs to see what she was about; and she said she would go and fetch us a glass of something to drink, and went out, and these men came in. These four shillings were never in that room by any fair play.


They found that tutenage in my pocket and a key. I told them where I lodged.

To Clarke. Look and see if you see the patterns of the shillings found behind the chimney? - That is the nearest (pointing to it.)

For Turley.


The prisoner Turley has worked with me six weeks; during the time he has been with me he has behaved very well.

Do you recollect any thing of him about the 8th of December? - I cannot particularize the day.

Cross Examination.

What are you; - A silver-buckle-maker at No. 37, Charles-street, Hatton-garden. I have known him seven or eight years.

What has been his character some years back? - I cannot say; I can only speak to his character from my own knowledge.

- CALENDER sworn.

I have known Turley about six months; he and his wife lodged with me; he always came home in good hours, generally about ten o'clock. He worked for the man I do, in the coach business.

For Benfield.

- NEWTON sworn.

I have known Benfield about twelve months; I never heard any thing amiss of him in my life.

Cross Examination.

Have you known him constantly for the last twelve months? - He has called at my house sometimes and staid an hour.

Have you seen him every month for the course of the twelve month? - I cannot say that.

- JONES sworn.

I have known Benfield ten years. I never heard any thing against him.

Cross Examination.

You have never heard any imputation thrown on his character? - No.

He is a man of as excellent character as you ever knew? - Yes.

- EDEN sworn.

I have known Benfield these dozen years. I never heard any thing bad of his character.

- SUTTON sworn.

I have known Benfield four or five years. He bears a very honest character.

Jury to Prothero. Whether there was any woman in the room? - No.

BOTH GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice ASHHURST.

Reference Number: t17800112-34

82. MARY the wife of Spencer WILLIAMS was indicted for that she a piece of base coin resembling the silver coin of this kingdom, traiterously and feloniously did colour with materials producing the colour of silver , December 8th .


Are you the person who went on the 8th of December to the house in Long-acre , where the prisoner lodged? - I was. I was the first person who went in; the door was on the latch; I lifted up the latch and went in; upon my right hand, about two yards in the passage there was a door which led into the kitchen or parlour on the ground floor; there was a little parlour behind that; the door between the two rooms was open; I saw the prisoner in that back room; she stood with her back towards me; there was a candle stood on the table; she stood beside it; she was rubbing something in her hand; I ran in.

What time of the day was this? - About eight o'clock; I laid hold of her, and Mr. Prothero then catched hold of her on the other side. The hand I laid hold of she clasped together; we opened it and a shilling dropped out. Her hand was wet and dirty. This is the shilling (producing it).

Did you find any thing else? - Mr. Prothero did; I only kept hold of her.

The shilling was wet at the time was it? - Yes; I had the shilling in my hand, it dropped through, being wet and dirty.

Cross Examination.

You are one of Sir John Fielding 's men? - I am.

You found the door open? - The outer door was shut, it was only on the latch.

This was on the ground floor at only eight o'clock at night on the 8th of December? - It was.

This prisoner stood in the room with her back to you? - Yes.

And this which you call a shilling was the only thing you took from her? - Yes.


The first information we had of the prisoner was from her own husband. Carpmeal went in first, I was close to him; he laid hold of the prisoner on one side, and I laid

hold of her on the other. I said she had something in her hand; in the scuffle the shilling dropped. I found this pickle (producing it) in the room; I desired Mr. Clarke to take care of it.

Cross Examination.

You said the information was from her own husband, was that Benfield? - No, her husband is a labouring man, I believe; he was a ragged fellow, he came to the office and said his wife had left him and gone to live with Benfield, and they were coining in Long-acre.


After we took the men, we went to the lodging in Long-acre. When I came into the room I heard a shilling drop, I could not say from whom. There was some aqua fortis in a cup, and this was inside it (producing a pipkin with some pickle in it) by putting the mixed metal into this pickle, which is aqua fortis and water, it purges the silver on the outside. The shillings were perfectly white when they were taken out of the pickle. There was scowering sand upon her hand.

Cross Examination.

Was the prisoner the only woman you found in the house? - No, there was another woman in the other room.

An old acquaintance? - No.

The street door was on the latch? - Yes.

And the other door open? - Yes.

Jury. Is it a lodging-house? - It is supposed to be Benfield's brother's house.

This woman lived with Benfield as his wife? - She might; upon enquiry I heard he lay there one night.

Then she acted under the direction of her husband? - They were pretty far apart.

Court. Would these shillings have continued white if they had been in use? - They would have turned coppery by wearing in people's pockets through the silver wearing off. By lying by, they are turned black.

To Carpmeal. The shilling appeared wet and dirty? - Yes.

What sort of dirt was it upon it? - It was sand.


Look at the pieces of coin, and see if they are or not counterfeits? - They are all bad.


I am very innocent of the charge.

GUILTY ( Death .)

Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice NARES.

Reference Number: t17800112-35

83. FRANCIS HALL was indicted for stealing ten feet of stack-wood, value 15 s. the property of John Bickley , December the 22d .

(The witnesses were examined apart at the request of the prisoner.)


I lost some stack-wood in December last; I missed it when I went with my cart to fetch it out from where it stood upon Enfield Chase . I went with my cart to bring it away on the 22d of December; when I came there the part which I went for was gone.

Was all that was there gone? - All that stood upon that spot. I followed the track of the cart till I came to the prisoner's house, and found it upon his premisses.

Is there any road or tracks over that part of the Chase; - Several roads.

How came you to follow this particular cart? - I do not imagine there had been a cart upon that part of the Chase for a month or six weeks before, the time of year was so bad. The track I followed was a fresh one, it had been made but some few days.

Was the track so fresh that you could distinguish it from the old tracks? - Yes, very plain.

When you came to the man's house you taxed him with it and he denied it? - In looking round I found a great part of the wood in the yard under his hovel.

Had he any wood of his own there? - He had split some into small pieces.

How did you know this wood which you found in his yard under the hovel to be your's? - By a particular mark that was upon a

stick; I brought it away with me. There was a mark of a saw upon it, which my people, who I had employed, had fixed on it; there was a dispute between the two men, one thought it was not long enough; they measured it again, and then cut it an inch longer than where they had begun. I know a great part of it. Besides, there were one or two more which the saw had touched.

Was there any other particular mark than the mark of the saw? - No.

Was not your wood like other stack-wood? - There was no other such upon that quarter.

In what did it differ from other stack-wood? - This was a butt of an oak.

Was not there a great deal of other oak upon the Chase besides this which was cut for your stack-wood? - This was rather a large stack.

Was your's the only large stack upon Enfield Chase? - That was any way near there that I know of.

Was this wood covered up or concealed, or was it lying open in the prisoner's yard? - It was lying open in the yard. I took that stick away, and had the prisoner taken up.

Cross Examination.

You have not told us quite all you know about this business have you? - I do not recollect any thing else.

What business may you be of? - A publican.

Did you go with your own cart yourself to fetch home this wood? - With my servant.

You had not received information of any of the wood being missing before you went for it? - Yes, I had heard that some of my wood was gone.

There are pretty large quantities of stack-wood about the Chase? - Not just at that place, the wood has been taken off.

I am told there are four or five thousand pieces of oak of much the same kind there now? - Not near it.

There is such sort of wood upon the Chase? - I suppose so.

You have been talking of the butt of an oak, what do you mean by the butt of an oak, is it the stump or body? - The lower part.

What lengths might this be cut into? - Three feet. One of the men was for cutting it three feet, and the other three feet and an inch; it was at last cut at three feet two inches.

You have been asked what enables you to swear so positively to this piece of wood, the answers you have given, if I understand you right, were that there had been a saw in it; might not that have happened to any other piece of wood? - I cannot say; I know this very well.

So the whole mark upon that wood is a cut? - Yes.

And that is it which you mean to swear by? - I do.

Do you know such a man as Mr. Smith a wheeler, in you neighbourhood? - Yes.

Did any body see the mark of the wheels of a cart besides yourself? - Yes.

You have been giving an account that there are a great number of roads where there are wheel tracks? - Certainly upon such a forest as that.

You are acquainted with Mr. Rookes, I believe? - I have seen him.

How long have you known him? - Some time.

Do you recollect having any meeting with Mr. Hall and Mrs. Rookes? - Meeting! Mrs. Rookes was one of the prisoner's bail.

Do you recollect any meeting you had with them? - I keep a public-house.

If you have had a meeting do not be ashamed of it, say so? - Only when they bailed him, and when we took him into custody again.

Do you recollect telling Mr. Hall that unless he would give you twenty guineas you would hang him? - I never told him any such thing in my life.

What then is become of the notes you got from this man? - I do not know; I have got no notes.

You do not know any thing about that then? - No.

Then tell the court plainly, have you got notes from this man? - I never had any in my life.

Do you deny that you ever had any notes given you by the prisoner at the bar? - I never had.

Do you recollect the prisoner's waiting upon you to pay the first of these notes? - The prisoner came one day with a handful of money, but I knew nothing about it.

Is your wife in town? - She is near at hand.

Was not she present when this transaction happened? - She might be at hand.

Did not you tell the prisoner if he would not give you twenty guineas, and then you reduced it down to ten, that you would prosecute and hang him? - That I deny. There were some notes drawn up between him and his bail, but I know nothing about them.

They were not then made payable to you? - I do not know who they were made payable to.

Did not Hall wait upon you to pay you one of these notes? - I never had the notes.

Did not you tell Hall that you should not deliver him up this note unless he would agree to have them both burnt? - No.

The whole of this is a fiction then, it is all a story? - Certainly; what his bail and he did I know nothing about.


What are you? - A labouring man. I cleft some stack-wood for Mr. Bickley; it was upon Enfield Chase.

Did you ever see any of it afterwards? - Yes, I saw one piece of it, which Mr. Bickley shewed me at his own house, which I cleft. I never saw it at the prisoner's.

(The piece of wood was produced in court by the constable.)

To Bickley. Where did you find that piece of wood? - In Mr. Hall's yard.

That is the piece of wood you take upon you to swear to? - Yes, it is.

To Tulett. Do you know any thing of that piece of wood? - Whilst we were cleaving this, there arose a dispute between my partner and me in sawing it off; we set the saw in; I said we will go an inch farther.

How do you know that to be the same piece of wood again? - To the best of my knowledge that is the piece.

Have you often been employed in cleaving stack-wood? - Yes.

Did it never happen in all your cleaving wood, that you put the saw in a wrong place and took it out again? - Yes, to be sure that might happen.

Do you take upon you to swear that that is the very piece of wood that you cut for Mr. Bickley? - No, I certainly cannot.

- FRANKLAND sworn.

Mr. Bickley, the prosecutor, desired me to go along with him to trace the cart from the place where the wood was taken.

Do you know the place where the wood was before it was taken away? - Perfectly well. I saw the tracks of a six-inch wheel cart. The tracks began from the three quarters of a stack of wood which was taken away. We followed it all the way to the prisoner's yard.

Did you observe the tract any farther than that? - No farther than his yard.

But at the other end, next to where the track was, did you look to see whether the track went any farther than the stack? - I did not examine that.

If Mr. Bickley had not pointed it out to you should you have taken notice of that more particularly than any other track? - No; but when Mr. Bickley pointed it out to me we could follow it very plain.

Did it appear to be a fresh or an old track? - It appeared to have been made within a day or two.

Were there any other fresh tracks besides that from that part of the Chase? - None but what were gone down in the right road, but this went across the other tracks.

As the Chase lies open are there not tracks going almost every way across the Chase there? - In different places there are.

When you followed the tracks to this man's yard, did the tracks go into the yard? - We followed the tracks up to the gate and when they came to the gate, going into the yard it is a very hard stony gravel, there the track was lost.

Is there any way through Mr. Hall's yard? - None on the other side at all, I am pretty sure.

How far from the prisoner's gate is the ground hard so that you lost the track? - Not more than twice the length of my stick, it is only just the gateway.

Did you look about Mr. Hall's yard or

beyond it to see whether the tracks began again and went farther? - We did, but could not find any tracks; when we went into the yard Mr. Hall was at work in the yard; the prosecutor said to him what have you been at, Mr. Hall, you have been robbing me; he said no I have not been robbing you; the prosecutor said I am very certain of it; I have suspected you a great while, but could not find it out before; we have traced the cart all the way to your yard door; he positively denied it; the prosecutor turned round to come out of the yard and he saw some wood lie piled up; he examined it and found this piece of wood among it.

Was Mr. Hall present at the same time? - Yes; Mr. Hall freely gave him leave to take this piece of wood away.

Was there any cart there? - Yes; there was a body of a cart and a pair of six-inch wheels; I measured them.

Could you discern distinctly from the tracks whether it was a four or a two wheel cart? - I could discern very distinctly that it was a two wheel cart.

Cross Examination.

What are you? - A herdsman to the parish of Edmonton, to look after the wood and the cattle.

You have an allowance for that? - Yes.

There is a considerable quantity of wood? - There is.

This happened in the month of December? - Yes.

The chase was extremely wet at that time? - Yes; it was before the frost set in.

What depth do you suppose this track you have been talking of might have been? - I cannot tell that; it varied in various places; in some places it was harder than others.

Is there any great difference in the appearance of a track whether it is made to day or three or four days ago; can you by your eye undertake positively to swear to a fresh or an old track? - I can to a track that has gone across the other tracks, I could not upon the main road.

I take it for granted in this chase there are a great many cross tracks? - There are so.

Is it not possible for there to have been a track from Mr. Hall's yard up to the stack-wood, and for that to have broke into some other track that was upon the Chase; can you undertake to swear that the track was continued from Mr. Hall's gate to the stack wood, and did not break in upon any other track, and was it not possible to go from the house to the stack a different road? - Yes; many different roads.

Court. Then there was no track leading from the house to the stack? - I never examined that.

You must have seen it if there had been two? - No; he might possibly have gone different ways; there was but that one track all the way to his house.

Counsel for the prisoner. Does it not follow that if the ground was so wet there must have been two tracks with the cart, one going the other coming back? - If he had gone that way there would.

The wood in Hall's yard was lying open? - It was piled up in the yard, either in the shed or adjoining to it; it was no ways concealed.

I think you said Hall voluntarily offered Bickley to take away this piece of wood? - Yes; Mr. Bickley when he examined the wood said, I suppose if I take away a piece of wood you will swear a robbery against me. Hall said no, he was welcome to take it. He asked Mr. Hall where he bought this wood? Mr. Hall said he bought it of one John Gibbons . I went that afternoon to Gibbons; Gibbons said -

Court. Is Gibbons here? - No.

Court. You must not tell us what he said? Jury. There is a saw cleft in the end of the billet; there must be several other pieces that have some saw clefts; when you saw up a butt of a tree that saw cleft must be in more billets than that now it is split? - Certainly.

Prisoner. I leave my defence to my counsel.

For the prisoner.


Where do you live? - At Winchmore hill.

You are an acquaintance of Francis Hall? - Yes.

Do you know John Bickley also? - I do.

Do you remember being sent to in consesequence of some scrape Mr. Hall had got into? - Mr. Hall asked me to be bail for him when he was at the justice's; accordingly I was bail for his appearance here.

Do you recollect any meeting that happened between Bickley, Hall, and you? - They met at Mr. Bickley's house to take into consideration the settling of it.

Did Mr. Hall then persevere in denying the charge Bickley had imputed to him? - He did to me.

Were any terms proposed by Bickley to Mr. Hall to settle the business? - Hall asked Bickley what terms he would settle it upon? Bickley said if he would give him five pounds down and five pounds shortly afterwards. Hall said he would give him a note for five pounds, and another note twenty one days afterwards accordingly.

Court. Tell me the very words Bickley said? - He said he would have ten pounds; five pounds down immediately, and Mr. Hall promised to give him five pounds in twenty one days after.

Did Hall give him five pounds? - He could not then; Bickley accepted of his note till the Saturday.

I understood you just now that Mr. Hall persevered in denying that he was guilty of the charge that was imputed to him? - He did.

Then did it not appear to you a little extraordinary that he should consent to give the prosecutor ten pounds? - I cannot say his meaning for so doing.

Was it through teriour of mind, or for what cause that he consented to pay this money? - I cannot say unless it was through fear of further trouble.

Who wrote those notes? - I wrote them; the prisoner could not read or write.

Do you recollect what the tenor of the notes were? - I think I do.

Read that, (giving the witness a paper) and tell me if that is the exact copy of the notes given at the time? - January the 8th, 1780, I promise to pay to John Bickley , or order, five pounds, for value received by me, Francis Hall, his mark at twenty-one days date; I promise to pay to John Bickley , or order, five pounds, for value received by me, Francis Hall, his mark

Court. Who made that copy? - I made it yesterday.

From what did you make this copy? - I was desired to make a copy of the notes as nearly as I could; I made that from my memory.

Then you could as well have told us from your memory what was the substance of the notes? - I can clearly recollect that is as exactly the copy of the notes as possible. (Repeats the notes from memory exactly as the copy.)

This was on the 8th of this month? - Yes, that the first note came due.

When were the notes given? - On the Wednesday or Thursday.

That was the 5th or 6th? - Yes.

Then how came they to be dated upon the 8th? - They were so dated.

Who desired them to be so dated? - Catlin told me to date them from the 8th; Catlin is bail with me.

After these two notes were given to Bickley, what further conversation passed? - He said we had done; accordingly Hall discharged the reckoning; it came to eleven shillings and ten-pence the whole day's expence.

Was you present when Hall went to pay the first note to Bickley? - No.

Was you present when these notes were burnt? - Yes.

When was that? - The day before yesterday.

What passed then? - We were then coming to town to Hicks's-hall; this was at the Bell and Hare, at Tottenham; Mr. Bickley and Catlin went into a parlour, where there was a fire; Catlin asked if we would not go into a little room, as we had no call to tell our business to people that were in the tap-room; we went into the parlour; Bickley pulled out the note, he shewed me the notes, and asked me if I knew them; I said they were my hand writing; he gave them to Catlin, the constable, and the constable put them into the fire.

Was it by the directions of Bickley that they were burnt? - He did not positively tell him to burn them in my hearing.

You are sure they were the notes? - Yes.

Was there any conversation relative to any bad consequences that might attend the transaction? - No.

Was Bickley's wife present? - Not when the notes were burnt; this was at a different house.

Was she present when the notes were given? - We were in a little parlour, she was in the tap-room in her own house.


You are the son of Francis Hall? - I am.

What quantity of wood has your father at home? - I don't know how many stacks he may have at home, he has carried a great deal out lately.

Was you at home when John Bickley came there? - I was not.

Look at that piece of wood? - This is a piece of wood that I split; it lay in our orchard fifteen or sixteen months, to the best of my knowledge.

How can you swear that that piece of wood is the same that you cut? - I think it is a piece of the same wood that belonged to one Mr. Coleman.

When did you see it last? - Not to my knowledge since it was split.

Has your father any great quantity of that wood in his yard? - No, there is about a stack in the yard now, I believe.

- BICKLEY sworn.

I am the wife of Mr. Bickley, the prosecutor.

Do you recollect Mr. Hall coming to your house for the purpose of paying a note due to your husband? - No, I know nothing at all about it.

Have not you this morning declared any thing relative to this business? - I have not indeed. I never saw any notes belonging to Mr. Hall; I know my husband lost some wood; I never heard any thing further of it.

Court. Call Benjamin Catlin .


Court. Now tell me truely all you know about this matter? - I know nothing any further than having the warrant to serve.

Was you ever present at any conversation between the prosecutor and the prisoner about this matter? - Never, from the time the warrant was served.

At the time the warrant was served was any thing said about it by the prisoner? - I never heard him say thing any further than that; when he was committed to prison I bailed him.

Do you know Robert Rookes? - Yes.

Were you with Bickley the day before yesterday; did you come to town with him when they came up to Hicks's-hall? - Yes.

Did you fall in with the prisoner Hall, and Robert Rooke , at the Bell and Hare at Tottenham? - Yes

Did any thing pass there about any notes? - The notes were given to me for my security, because he should not run away. I burnt them before his face after he had surrendered himself up to me.

How many notes were there? - Two.

Who were these notes payable to? - To Mr. Bickley; but then they were left in his hand because the money was to be for our security; the money was to be left for my security, for fear he should run away.

How came the money to be left in the hand of the prosecutor for the security of the prisoner's bail? - There was no money left.

The notes were left? - I left them because the money should be there safe and secure, in case the man should call again.

How came the notes which were for your security to be made payable to Mr. Bickley? - I ordered it so.

Then you thought it a better security for them to be made payable to him? - I looked upon them as safe in his hands as in mine.

If the money was for your security, how came you to desire the notes to be made payable to Mr. Bickley - I left them in his hands, that the money might be left there, that it might be returned again to the man.

You could not trust yourself with your own money? - No; if I had had it I might have made use of it perhaps; I did not want to handle the money; he offered me twenty pounds security if I would take it.

But you liked ten pounds security given to Bickley better than twenty to yourself? -

I thought the notes were as well in his hand as mine.


I am a baker, and am high constable. I have known the prisoner eighteen years. He always behaved honest to me.

How many years has he lived in that country? - I have been there eighteen years myself; he was there when I came into the country. He has a little farm, and draws wood, or any thing, for any body. He deals in wood. He and I together have bought a thousand at a time. He has seven or eight children I believe. I never saw any thing but that he was an industrious man. He and his son together are always with his team.


I am a wheeler at Winchmore-hill; I have known Mr. Hall nineteen years; he deals in stack-wood and faggots. He is an industrious hard working man, and has a large family of children; he always paid me very honestly.


I have know him as long as I can remember, eighteen or twenty years I suppose. I never heard any thing amiss of him at all. I believe he is an honest industrious man; he deals in wood, and fetches and carries any thing that is wanted with his team.


Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

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*** Timothy Fitzpatrick , John Taylor , and John Staples were executed at Tyburn on Monday the 6th of Dec. Hugh Mulvey , John Wiley , John Howell , and William Flint , were executed at Tyburn on Wednesday the 19th of January . The execution of the rest of the capital convicts respited during his Majesty's pleasure.

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The TRYALS being ended, the Court proceeded to give judgement, as followeth:

Received Sentence of Death, eight.

Robert Hughes , John Frangure , otherwise Franks, John M'Cormick, Robert Dollerman , John Kettleby , John Benfield , William Turley , and Mary Williams . [ John Benfield , William Turley , and Mary Williams to be drawn on a hurdle to the place of execution. - Mary Williams to be burnt.]

Fined 1 s. and imprisoned 6 months in Newgate, three.

Mary Dyer , Mary Jones , and Mary Smith .

Fined 1 s. and imprisoned 3 months in the house of correction, four.

Mary Conway , Robert Evans , Patrick Feeling , and John Shakehast.

Whipped and imprisoned 12 months in the house of correction, one.

Ann Gould .

Whipped and imprisoned 3 months in Newgate, one.

Joshua Brooks .

Whipped and imprisoned 6 months in Newgate, one.

Eleanor Whiston .

Twice whipped and imprisoned 3 months in Newgate, one.

Samuel Isaacs .

Whipped, one.

Thomas Grinley .

Whipped and imprisoned 1 month in the house of correction, one.

James Stewart .

Whipped and imprisoned 1 month in Newgate, one.

John Smith .

Fined 1 s. and imprisoned 12 months in Newgate, one.

Thomas Ives .

Privately whipped and imprisoned 3 months in the house of correction, one.

Jane Williams , Elisabeth Gaskin , Mary Jones .

Privately whipped, two.

Ann Marshall , and Mary Sanders .

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*** Timothy Fitzpatrick , John Taylor , and John Staples were executed at Tyburn on Monday the 6th of Dec. Hugh Mulvey , John Wiley , John Howell , and William Flint , were executed at Tyburn on Wednesday the 19th of January . The execution of the rest of the capital convicts respited during his Majesty's pleasure.

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