NUMBER III. PART I.
Sold by S. BLADON, at No. 28, in Pater-noster-Row.
King's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol-Delivery, held for the City of LONDON, &c.
BEFORE the Right Honourable JAMES TOWNSEND , Lord Mayor of the City of London; the Honourable GEORGE PERROT , Esq. one of the Barons of his Majesty's Court of Exchequer *; the Honourable Sir GEORGE NARES , Knt. one of the Justices of his Majesty's Court of Common Pleas +; the Honourable Sir JAMES EYRE , Knt. one of the Barons of his Majesty's Court of Exchequer ||; Mr. Serjeant GLYNN, Recorder ++; THOMAS NUGENT , Esq; Common Serjeant ~, and others his Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer of the City of London, and Justices of Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City and County of Middlesex.
The *, +, ||, ++ and ~, refer to the Judges by whom the Prisoners were tried.
(L.) London Jury.
(M.) Middlesex Jury.
WILLIAM STATIA and JOHN BLAY were indicted for stealing a cloth great coat, value 10 s. the property of Joseph Fowke , Feb. 9 . +
Joseph Fowke . I keep the Horns, a public house in Thames street . On the 9th of this month the two prisoners and two other men came into my house, and called for some gin: Statia offered some money to change, and while the maid came to me for the change, Mr. Stevenson told me they had taken my coat; I immediately cried out, stop thief! and pursued them; and Blay was taken almost immediately.
(The coat produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
Both Guilty 10 d. W .
Matthew Emerson . I keep a riding school, and rent some grounds of Lord Holland, behind Holland-house : I lost from those grounds two horses; I think on the 6th of December: the one a chesnut gelding with a full tail, four years old coming five this grass, had a very small white streak under his forehead, the legs shaded with white, but not white, rather a lighter colour; the other had a black mane and tail, a full tail and no white about him; I described him in hand bills; he was coming fix this grass: that bay horse has been in my care these eighteen months; it is the property of Edward Elliot , Esq; I take in these horses to grass; the chesnut horse was the property of one Mr. William Hudson . I advertised them with their marks; we did not miss the chesnut horse first. I found the bay horse, which was particularly advertised, on the 8th; he was taken away we suppose on the 6th at night; I found him at one Mr. Oliver's, at the Bull and Gate in Holborn. By my publishing these hand bills the other was found; the prisoner took these horses to one Mr. Phillips, who was then buying horses, as I am informed, for the French king; by these bills being put into the stable yards, they came and gave me information that they believed that the horse I had advertised was to be shewn to Mr. Philips; I found out the man that rid the horse for the prisoner; I sent my man to Mr. Oliver's; I saw the horse there; I am certain that is the horse that was stolen; I had not seen him for two or three days before he was lost; we recovered the chesnut horse on the Monday following; the 6th of December was Sunday; I sent my man to Mr. Henley, a dealer in horses at Datchet; he sent me word he had got the horse, and that he bought it of Mercier. I had bills brought of horses that were stolen at Colnbrook; the prisoner was coming from Colnbrook to a neighbour of mine who gave information of it.
Q. Did you know any thing of the prisoner?
Emerson. No, I never saw him till he was taken at Mr. Oliver's.
Q. When did you see them in the field?
Ingle. I rode the bay horse on Sunday the 6th; by turning another into the field I made a mistake in my number, and did not recollect seeing the bay gelding in the field; I think he was gone on Saturday; I do not recollect seeing him then; I am sure I saw him on Friday. I went into the field on Monday morning the 7th and missed the bay gelding.
Q. What might be the value of him?
Ingle. Twenty pounds I suppose.
Q. You understand horses?
Ingle. A little. I did not miss the chesnut till the Friday morning following.
Q. Have you seen them since?
Ingle. Yes; Mr. Emerson has them both.
Q. Are you sure that the two horses that are returned to Mr. Emerson, are the two horses that were at grass under his care?
Ingle. Yes, they are. I found the hedge pulled up on both sides of the gate of the field; I followed him by his feet being without shoes; the bay gelding had only a half shoe. I traced him to the road: I followed him about 40 yards into the road, then I could see no further; the turnpike-man at Kensington Gravel Pits said there was such a one went through about one o'clock, and that a Frenchman rid him.
Emerson. My ground goes by the Acton road from one road to the other.
Q. Did you ever see him before?
Linnell. No; he led the horse; it was a bay horse.
Q. A full tail?
Linnell. A prerty deal of hair upon it. He told me when he came back he had lost himself, and said he brought the horse from Harrow; he called for a pennyworth of purl and a pennyworth of gin in it; he went to sleep immediately. I went with a candle out to look at the horse seeing it had no saddle upon it; it had a cramped-up white bridle which seemed to have been in somebody's pocket; I took his foot up to see if he had any shoes on; he had none on either foot except a bit of a shoe on one of the fore feet.
Q. What day was this?
Linnell. Monday morning between three and four; I always get up early on account of the teems; I said, God bless me, where have you been with this horse without shoes; he said there are two or three of us who buy them for the French king, in the country; he said he had been home long before now, but that he had met with two hussies last night who kept him up all night; he said he went about to buy horses; I asked him if he knew Baldock and Dunstable; he said very well; I asked him if he knew Harrow, and whether he came up or down a hill, or saw a river; he said me see no bill; he could not tell me which way he came from Harrow; there is a very steep hill down from Harrow; then I apprehended he had never been there; I knew he had not been at Harrow by that. His horse stood tied at my door; he said he should be glad to have him shoe'd; I sent a boy for the blacksmith; he took the horse over and had him shoe'd; when the horse was shoe'd and brought back again, he gave me a 9 s. piece that wanted about 3 s. of weight; I scrupled taking it; he had money enough to pay me all but a penny, and he had another bad 6 s. 9 d. I said your money is not very good, nor I do not believe you are, I believe you stole that horse; he made no excuse but said me buy them for the French king. I bid my man put the horse in the stable; he was marching away; when he had got five or six pole my man called him back, and told him his horse was in another stable; he came back and took it away; I stopt his gloves for a penny. He came about two, or between two and three in the afternoon, and went to the Brazen-head, which is about ten pole from my house, and sent an old man with a penny for his gloves; I said I would not deliver them to him; then he came himself on this chesnut horse; it is a very good horse indeed, with a swiss tail; he had got another dress on then; he rid to the door with a very great air and called me.
Q. How was he dressed?
Linnell. In a lightish coloured cloth coat with a red cape; he said, you charge me with stealing a horse, take my good name away; I have seven or eight besides this; me punish you; and seeing him upon that horse I did think I had let my tongue run too fast, but however the Frenchman never came near me any more; he rid back again up Bell-lane; I looked after him and instead of going the way to go through the turnpike; he went over the rails a-cross the field.
Q. Are you sure he is the person?
Linnell. I am positive he is the same person.
Q. Have you seen the horses since?
Linnell. No; but by the bills they appear to be the same horses.
Q. Describe the bay horse.
Linnell. It had a black tail and a black mane.
Q. Has he any white about him?
Linnell. No, a black mane.
Q. How high?
Linnell. He might be about fourteen or fifteen hands: a middle sized horse.
Q. Did he shew for a bred horse?
Linnell. He looked to be a sort of an Arabian.
Q. to Emerson. How high is he?
Emerson. About fourteen hands: he is a bred horse, and I believe his fire was a bred horse, but he is a remarkable airy horse; he had quite the shew and action of a foreign horse, remarkably so.
Prisoner. He said I had a red cape to my coat, I had no such thing.
Q. Had the horse any shoes on?
Beard. He had three feet bare, and a piece of a shoe on one of the fore feet: he paid me.
Q. What sort of a horse was it?
Beard. A bay horse with a long tail and black mane.
Q. Had he any white about him?
Beard. I did not see any.
Q. Had he the appearance of a bred or foreign horse.
Beard. Yes, he had.
Emerson. The horse when turned out to grass had tips put on before; that is a sort of half shoe; all my horses that are turned out I pull their hind shoes off.
Beard. It was about six in the morning; I will not swear to the man; it was dark at six in the morning.
Q. to Linnell. Did he pay you, or offer to pay you, before the horse went to be shoe'd or after?
Q. Did he produce any silver when he came to you?
Linnell. He did; I believe he gave me 6 d.
Thomas Oliver . I keep a stable-yard at the Bull and Gate. On Sunday the 6th of December, the prisoner, who I knew by having horses with me the week before, brought a chesnut gelding to my stables; I did not see the horse till next morning.
Q. What horse did he bring before?
Oliver. A chesnut horse the week before, not the horse here but another; he stood at my stables only one night. He came on Sunday at that time, and sold him the next day; that on the 6th was a chesnut. On Monday morning he brought this long tail bay horse in; the chesnut horse was brought without shoes, and he ordered him to be shoe'd; that was one of the horses that was returned to the prosecutor; the bay horse he brought between six and seven in the morning; I saw him come in with the bay horse between nine and ten on Monday morning; I said you have got a fine horse, meaning the chesnut horse; he said yes, but if you did but ride this bay horse you would say he was a very fine horse, much finer than the other; he told me he should have three more, one of which cost fifty guineas; he said they were to come that evening; he staid in our tap room till towards three in the afternoon; he borrowed the same bridle and saddle and let out with the chesnut horse, and left the bay horse there; he said he was going to meet the other three which were coming that evening. I never saw him from that time till the Thursday night following; this was Monday between six and seven in the evening; during his being gone with the chesnut horse, Mr. Emerson came and challenged the bay one; when he came on the Thursday I stopped him, and we had him to Sir John Fielding 's; he sold the chesnut horse to a farmer at Datchet; he returned without that.
Prisoner. He said I came between eight and nine at night; it was only six when I was in my lodgings; it was the boy that brought the horse.
Oliver. I learned from my servant that a boy brought it, but the prisoner followed it.
Q. You have heard the description of the horse, was it as they have described it?
Oliver. Yes, the description of both the horses as to age and all; I have seen them since Mr. Emerson has had them; the bay horse looked like a foreign horse.
Joshua Earling . The prisoner came to Datchet, near Windsor, on the 8th of December, last year. My father is a dealer in horses; he came about twelve o'clock to our stables to see our horses; he told me he was employed by one Mr. Philips that bought horses for the king of France, who had sent him to see if we had any thing to suit him; I shewed him the horses I had; he said he was going to London; he came again upon Thursday morning; he said all his money was gone; I said I had been in France and was well used, and would lend him half a guinea; he said he was obliged to me, but had a horse to dispose of; he went and ordered the man to bring it out; he said he had been bid seven guineas for it; I should have it for seven guineas and a half; I said I was very cautious how I bought horses for I had had several stolen ones; he said if you dispute give me a guinea in part of payment, and I will bring you the man that I had the receipt of; he said he bought him of a woollen draper at Acton, five months ago. He said he had taken a house and was going to set up; that his profession was a doctor; he was dressed in a light coloured coat and waistcoat, a pair of new buckskin breeches, a pair of boots, a new brown great coat and red collar, and he had very much the appearance of a gentleman; I was going to pay him all the money but he would not take it; he would only have a guinea, but I would have him take two; he gave me a receipt for them in part of payment; he ordered a supper at an alehouse in the town; this was Thursday morning; he was to be there on Friday night. I lent him a horse and went with him to Lingley; he took the coach, got into it, and took the bridle and saddle that came on the chesnut horse with him; he said it was not his own property; I never saw it afterwards Mr. Emerson's man came and enquired for us upon Monday morning, with a letter desiring us to
Emerson. That was the same horse I gave an account of. Mr. Earling immediately sent me the horse.
One of my witnesses lives in Bell-yard. I made an acquaintance with an Irishman; he saw me in Ireland; he knew I was a surgeon by trade; he told me he was to go into the country; he told me he would sell me a horse, that he was old and had but one eye; he said he would sell it me cheap; I took him in hopes I could give him the sight of one eye; I tried but could not do it; I had a lodging in that house; the man came to me and said he had an acquaintance, a Frenchman, that bought horses for the king; he said sell him, he will give you something for it; he said he had several others; that next day he would shew me a fine clever horse, the Sunday evening; he desired me to be there between three and four; I was there with a man that was to be here; the horse was without shoes; he said he was just come from grass; he asked me ten guineas for the big horse, the chesnut.
Emerson. The bay horse was very deep, what we call a blood bay.
Prisoner. This was the chesnut; I gave him seven guineas for the horse; I bought it near Hyde-Park-Corner, the road to go to Acton; he told me if I would go in the morning he would bring me a fine clever horse; I said I would; he said call in a month's time and he would find me twenty horses; he was to have brought me three horses on Wednesday upon the road to Oxford; there was only his servant there; then I went six miles further, and they were at the King's Arms, eleven miles from town on the Oxford-road. I wanted to sell the horse and they directed me to the horse dealer. I went to the Bull and Gate, and they stopt me directly.
Guilty . Death .
276. (M.) THOMAS BOND was indicted for that he on, the king's highway, on Thomas Savill did make an assault, putting him in corporal fear and danger of his life, and stealing from his person a silver watch, value 40 s. a steel watch chain, value 5 s. a brass watch key, value 1 d. a stone seal, a moidore, a quarter of a guinea, and 4 s. in money, numbered , the property of the said Thomas Savill , Dec. 3 d . *
Thomas Savill . On the 3 d of December I set out from my house to go to Hackney: going over London-fields a man stopt me, presented a pistol, and demanded my money; it was between five and six in the afternoon; then another came on the other side, took hold of my collar, and presented another pistol, and demanded my money, then a third came up and rifled my pockets; I begged they would not use me ill, and they should be welcome to what I had.
Q. Had the other man a pistol?
Savill. I cannot say: they took from me a moidore, half a guinea, a five and three-pence, and some silver: I believe about 8 s. in silver: I am certain to 7 s. or 8 s.
Q. Was it pretty dark?
Savill. Yes, so dark that I could not discover their persons; they held the pistols very near my head on both sides; one had hold of one side of my coat the other of the other. About three weeks after the watch was advertized by Justice Camper; I applied there, and there I saw it.
Thomas Clark . John Cooper brought this watch to me, he offered to pledge it for a guinea and a half; I stopt it; I have had it in my custody ever since; I questioned him about it; he said he gave five guineas for it; I asked him who he bought it of; he could not tell me of whom he bought it; I asked him if he lived any where thereabouts; he said no; at last he said he lived at Hatton-Garden; I asked him his name; he said it was Jones; I asked him his trade; he said he was of none, he kept a lodging house; I told him I believed he had not told me the truth; I said you bring it for some acquaintance don't you? he said, yes, I do; I told him I should keep the watch till he brought the young man, and if he did not give a better account I would keep it; he said he would soon fetch him; he ran out and about a quarter of an hour after he brought the prisoner.
Q. Are you sure to the prisoner?
Clark. Yes. I asked Bond if that was his watch; he said yes; I asked him how he came by it; he said he gave four guineas for it; I asked him who he bought it of, he could not tell me; I asked him where he lived; he said he worked with a shoe-maker in Fetter-lane; I do not recollect his name; I desired him to fetch his master to give him a character; he went away. I sent a person to follow
Prisoner. I had the watch of Staines.
Q. Did he say then he had it of one Staines?
Clark. No; he could not tell who he bought it of: I had an order the Wednesday after I advertized it to come before Justice Camper; Staines had turned evidence; I advertized it four times in the whole.
Q. What are you?
Cooper. A barber: we were drinking together and he asked me to go and pledge it.
Q. Where was you when he desired you to pledge it?
Cooper. At Ben Johnson's-head near Cold-Bath-fields.
Q. How came you there together?
Cooper. We met together; we had known one another some time.
Q. What is he?
Cooper. A shoe-maker.
Q. Do you know the day?
Cooper. It was on Saturday; I believe the 5th of December.
Q. to Clark. When did he offer it you?
Clark. On the 5th of December, about eleven in the forenoon.
Q. to Cooper. When was you drinking with this man?
Cooper. About eleven.
Q. Was you in company with the prisoner on the 3d of December?
Staines. I cannot tell the day of the month; this is the watch. The prisoner and I, and one James Berry that was cast last sessions, were going by the Shoulder of Mutton; Berry stopt the Gentleman, demanded his money, and took his watch out of his pocket; I came up directly to him and took the money out of his pocket.
Jury. How do you know that to be the watch?
Staines. I took notice of it at Mr. Camper's, and I know it by the seals and chain; we went to the Black-horse in Kingsland-road after the robbery and there I looked at the watch.
Q. Do you know the maker's name or number?
Q. Who was trusted with the possession of the watch?
Staines. Berry gave it me, and I gave it Bond.
Q. When did you give it Bond?
Staines. The same night.
Q. Did you go to the Black-horse or the house just by it?
Staines. The Black Horse.
Q. Not the house just by it, you go there sometimes?
Prosecutor. This is the watch I was robbed of. When the third came up, and demanded my money, I said if you use me well you shall have it; I was going to unbutton my breeches pocket, the third put his hand in my pocket and took the money out; I thought there had been a guinea among it; I said I was going into company, and had no money; I asked them for a guinea back, they said as I behaved like a gentlemen they would give me a shilling which they did.
I had the watch of Staines the evidence I should have fetched my master, but I saw Staines, who bid me not trouble my head about it.
Guilty . Death .
270, 271. (M.) JOHN FOSSET and ELIZABETH JOVALINE , spinster , were indicted, the first for breaking and entering the dwelling house of Thomas Pateman on the 12th of February , about the hour of four in the night, and stealing a silver pint mug, value 40 s. two silver table spoons, value 20 s. two silver tea spoons, value 2 s. two linen sheets, value 6 s. two muslin aprons, value 4 s. two linen aprons, value 4 s. one child's linen jam, value 2 s. a linen waistcoat, value 2 s. one linen shirt, value 6 s. two linen shirts, value 4 s. two pair of shift sleeves, value 2 s. one diaper table-cloth, value 2 s. one checked linen apron, one pair of linen sleeves, value 1 s. a linen handkerchief, value 1 s. 6 d. one linen apron, value 2 s. a nankeen gown, value 5 s. a cotton gown, value 3 s. a silk gown, value 5 s. a linen ironing cloth, value 1 s. five yards of printed callico, value 3 s. a sattin cloak, value 2 s. a cloth petticoat, value 3 s. an iron candlestick, value 6 d. a copper tea kettle, value 2 s. four pewter plates, value 3 s. and one pewter dish, value 2 s. the property of the said Thomas Pateman in his dwelling house . And the other for receiving a linen-handkerchief and a linen apron, parcel of the said goods well knowing them to have been stolen . +
Thomas Pateman . I am a Saddle-tree Riveter , and live in Long-alley Moorfields ; my house was broke open last Saturday morning. I went to bed on Friday night about eleven o'clock, I looked at the doors and windows when I went to bed, they were all fast: my daughter Alice was up last in the house; I was waked the next morning about seven o'clock by my daughter Mary; I went down and saw the kitchen window in the yard broke open.
Q. Are you sure they were whole the over night?
Pateman. Yes; the hinges were wrenched off, the shutters were on the outside; they had put up the sash; I lost the things mentioned in the indictment (repeating them); the prisoner Fosset had been my apprentice, but had run away; he had lived with me five years. I heard he lived a bad life, therefore I suspected him. We got a search warrant, and I found my goods in his apartments.
Boucher. I found these things in the prisoner's apartments; he was present at the time; Mr. Pateman was along with me; I was in a room up one pair of stairs; the woman prisoner was with him; as soon as the prosecutor saw him, he said that is the man; I took him by the collar, and immediately Chapman put his hand upon the things. The prosecutor said, O you naughty lad, you have robbed me before, and he confessed it, and said he took them at four o'clock in the morning.
Q. to the prosecutor. Did you threaten him or promise him favour if he would confess?
Prosecutor. No, he said if you will forgive me I will go to sea; I said no, he should have what the law would allow him.
Q. Did you tell him it should be better for him or worse for him, or any thing of that sort respecting a confession?
Boucher. He owned he took them between three and four in the morning.
Q. Who asked him as to the time?
Boucher. I believe his master; he said he broke open the window.
Q. Whose lodgings are these?
Boucher. The man's lodgings.
Q. Was the woman there at the time?
Q. Who had the custody of the goods?
Boucher. They were in the lodgings; they were all in the room: I took this handkerchief from her neck; when the man came in he said it was his handkerchief. An apron was about her feet, it was not tied about her.
Q. What did she say?
Boucher. She said they were the things Fosset gave her; and she said she had them from that bundle; she said she had lived with him two years.
Q. Was it light then?
Pateman. No, it was dark. When I came down I found the shutter half off; the window and door were open. I went and called my father directly.
Q. Are these things that have been produced your father's?
Pateman. Yes, they are.
Q. Were they there before the house was broke open?
Pateman. I left some of them on the dresser and some in the garret.
Q. Are you sure some were in the garret?
Pateman. Yes; I saw them the night before the robbery.
Q. Could they go into the garret without going into any other room?
Q. Did any body lie in the garret?
Pateman. Yes, a journeyman and an apprentice.
Q. In the garret where the things were?
Q. Did they lie there that night?
Alice Pateman . I am a daughter of the prosecutor; I was up last in the house; I took notice that the windows and doors were all fast; my sister came and called me up when she called my father the next morning.
Q. Do you remember these goods being in your father's house?
Pateman. Yes, perfectly well; I saw the mug over night.
Q. Where was it?
Pateman. In the kitchen; I was to have took it up stairs but went and forgot it.
John Wilson . Mr. Pateman came to my house the next morning about eight o'clock, and asked me to go with him to apprehend this man; I went with him to justice Wilmot's; two of his men went with us to the prisoner's room, and
I was going out on Saturday morning to work at Leadenhall market; I found all these things lying in the street together; I took them home to my house to see if they would be advertized; they were in two bundles.
When I got up in the morning I found them in the room; I do not know how they came there; I found the handkerchief on the table, and put it on my neck.
William Whitehead . I have known Fosset from a child; I never heard a bad character of him before; when I heard this I was startled at it: he is 24 or 25 years old; he is a saddle-tree-maker; I thought he was a sober lad.
Thomas Whithers . I have known Fosset above 20 years: I lived in his father's house; he always behaved well; his father was a taylor in Houndsditch. I always looked upon him to be an honest lad; I never heard any harm of him till now: I have known him till within these two years; he went on board a king's ship.
FOSSET guilty . Death .
JOVELINE acquitted .
John Hollis . I am a stable keeper; Mr. Trueman keeps a horse at my stables; last Monday fortnight I missed the saddle; I saw it before I went to bed, about ten o'clock; it hung up in the stable beside the horse; I know the prisoner; he works about the yard, and drives coaches sometimes.
Q. to Hollis. The saddle you received of the witness Bert is that the saddle you lost?
Bert. The prisoner used my house a month or six weeks before; he said he had found a saddle in Epping-forest, and asked me to buy it; I said yes, if he brought it and came honestly by it; I saw no more of him for a month after. On Monday fortnight I met him; he asked me how I did, and said I never brought the saddle to you, I will bring it in a few days; he came on Tuesday morning and brought it, and I bought it in the public tap-room Mr. Hollis came and owned it, and I gave it him; the prisoner said that was the saddle he spoke of a month or six weeks before.
I found the saddle at the end of the road in the public street on Tuesday morning.
Guilty 10 d. W .
Robert Holmes . I live with Mess. Colvil and Blackburn in Milk-street. On the 9th of February last we sold twenty-three dozen of linen handkerchiefs; they were laid on the counter ready to send to the person that bought them; when we went to pack them up there were four dozen and eleven missing; the Wednesday following the prisoner was brought to our house; I was not in the way; I know nothing more.
Hannah Hutchins . The prisoner lodged at the house where I lodge, on Salt Peter Bank ; this day three weeks he met me as I was coming from the market; he said he had a parcel of handkerchiefs that he had received as part of payment of a debt, and asked if I could sell or pawn them for him; I did not choose to go myself, but gave them to May to pawn.
Christopher Tafe . I am a constable; Mr. Foreshall's young man came for me; I went there, and the black and the woman were detained in Foreshall's shop; the black acknowledged he stole them, and brought me to the house of Mess. Colvill and Blackbourn; he said he saw Mr. Blackbourn in the back room; that he went in and took the handkerchiefs off the counter; there were seven handkerchiefs stopt at Mr. Foreshall's. I went to the house of the prisoner and found twelve more in the bed (producing them.)
May. The seven are the handkerchiefs I brought. (The handkerchiefs deposed to by Holmes.)
I never stole any thing in my life; they were put into a cart; I saw them fall out and took them up; the officer frightened me, and said if I would shew him the house they would let me go.
Guilty . T .
274. (M.) ANN GRIFFITH , otherwise ANN HALL , spinster , was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling of Thomas Best , on the 13th of February , about the hour of seven in the night, and stealing eighteen yards of silk gauze, value 30 s. the property of the said Thomas, in his dwelling house . *
Q. What is Mr. Best?
Throbeck. A haberdasher . We lost nothing at that time; I placed a large piece of black gauze against the pane, to prevent the wind coming in; the piece of black gauze stood up against the pane, and near it stood this piece of white silk gauze, containing eighteen yards. About twenty minutes after, I heard the pane break again; the first crack was about three or four inches; as soon as I heard the glass break I went to the window and missed this piece of gauze containing 18 yards; (producing it.) As soon as I missed the gauze I heard the cry of stop thief; and in about a minute Price brought the prisoner into the shop; her arm was cut and the gauze was bloody, and some places cut with dragging it through the pane of glass.
Q. from the Jury. Is this the gauze you put before the pane of glass?
Throbeck. No; that was a piece of black gauze that lay down by it.
Q. Do you know that to be your master's property?
Q. Did you observe the window before?
Price. No; as I was going by I heard the window break; I looked round and saw the gauze come through the window.
As I was coming down Holborn a boy threw it in my face, and Price laid hold of me.
Q. to Price. Do you remember her arm being cut?
Guilty. Death . Recommended by the Jury .
William Hornby . On the 20th of January between seven and eight o'clock, I was going along Gracechurch-street , I heard a voice say, Your pocket, sir; I put my hand in my pocket and missed my handkerchief; a gentleman pointed to the prisoner, and said they are the persons I believe; I laid hold of them, and found my handkerchief in Daw's breeches pocket, some part in his breeches; (the handkerchief produced and deposed to.) I took him to the Compter; he said he knew nothing of me; that he bought the handkerchief in Rosemary-lane; Carter was with him; they were hand in hand as it were, so I took them both.
Charles Barry . I was coming out of Fenchurch-street; turning round the corner I saw the two prisoners close to that gentleman's pocket; I called out to him; the prosecutor put his hand to his pocket and missed his handkerchief; he took hold of the prisoners and found the handkerchief on Daw; we took them to the Compter.
They have both forswore themselves: it was not in Daw's pocket, it was in mine; I bought
They did not take it out of my pocket; they took it out of Carter's; I never had the handkerchief in my life.
Both Guilty . T .
277. (M.) HENRY PALMER was indicted for stealing a trunk covered with leather, value 3 s. a woollen cloth coat, value 40 s. a woollen cloth waistcoat, value 20 s. a pair of breeches, value 10 s. a woollen cloth waistcoat, value 20 s. a pair of woollen cloth breeches, value 20 s. a pair of stone buckles set in silver, value 4 s. one gentin handkerchief, value 2 s. the property of John Lewis Hawsher in the dwelling house of John Watts , Feb. 8 . *
John Lewis Hawsher . I am a pawnbroker in Cranbourn-alley. On the 8th of February there was a fire at my house; I lost a leather trunk out of my house containing a brown suit of clothes, a brown velvet waistcoat and a pair of velvet breeches, a pair of stone buckles set in silver and a linen handkerchief. I missed them in the evening; a man told me he had found a trunk in the King's Mews; there was nothing in it; I fetched the trunk the day after; the trunk belonged to the landlord where I lodged; his name is George Watts ; he lent me the use of the trunk.
Q. Who did the things in the trunk belong to?
Q. How long before you missed the trunk had you seen these things in it?
Hawsher. The day before I had them on, and put them in on Sunday evening.
Q. Did you ever hear of any of the things afterwards?
Hawsher. Yes; there was a man that brought a coat, and another that stopt the waistcoat and breeches in consequence of my having advertised it.
Sampson Hodgkin. I bought this suit of clothes of the prisoner on Tuesday the 9th of this month; I met the prisoner in the street; he said he was a gentleman's servant; we went into the Rose in Wimpole-street, Cavendish-square; he offered the clothes to some Jews; they could not agree for them; I asked him to let me look at them; he brought them; I asked him the price of them; he said 36 s. he had another waistcoat and breeches; I asked where the coat of that suit was; he said his master wore it with other clothes; (the clothes produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
I am a Frenchman, and am not acquainted with the English law. On Tuesday morning a man came to me in Piccadilly; he had some clothes to sell; he offered them to some people; they could not agree; then he shewed the clothes to me and I bought them; then he shewed me a pair of shoe buckles and asked if I would buy them; he asked half a guinea for them; he said he lived with a gentleman that was gone abroad; I met a Jew; he asked if I would sell the clothes again; I said I would not in the street, so we went into a public house, but we could not agree; a chairman bid me 31 s. 6 d. for them; I told him I could not take it; then I went to another house and shewed them to another Jew; he bid me 15 s. for them; the man collared me and asked if I would take the 15 s. I said I would not; the gentlewoman bid me tie the clothes up, for they did not want to buy them; then the man in black knocked me down and said I had stole the clothes. I am as innocent of it as the child unborn.
Guilty of stealing, but not in the dwelling house . T .
279, 280. (M.) JOHN PEARCE and CHARLES TINQUINT were indicted; the first for stealing a leaden pump, value 10 s. the property of Edward Lee , the elder ; and the other for receiving it well knowing it to have been stolen , Jan. 29 . *
Both acquitted .
Thomas De Grey in his dwelling house .
Esther Smart . I live in Mr. De Grey's house: I was the only person in it during his absence. On the 23d of November I went to bed between 11 end 12 at night; I made all the doors and windows fast over night; the next morning I came down a little before six with a candle (it was then dark;) when I came down I found the area door open and this piece of wood ( producing a piece of wood that had been taken out of the door) lying by the door; there were a great many shavens and two chissels; I went into the pantry and there was a chest broke open, and some chissels; (the chissels produced;) these are the chissels. When I came into Mr. De Grey's room there were two portmanteaus opened, and all Mr. De Grey's clothes taken out; I did not know what was taken away; I went into Mrs. De Grey's room and found her things thrown about; they were in good order the day before.
Q. What sort of portmanteaus were they?
Smart. One was leather the other cloth?
Q. Did you take notice of any wax candle?
Smart. There was a bit lest in the two pair of stairs room, and a great deal was dropped on the carpet.
Q. Where did you find the chissels?
Smart. Where the door was broke open by the area door.
Richard Barnet . I am a constable: about the 15th of January Mr. Caleton came to me and desired me to aid him, to go where he was ordered by the magistrate to go; I took my bludgeon in my bosom, and he desired when he saw the person he wanted I would secure him; we went to the prisoner's house; the prisoner himself opened the door; as soon as he opened the door I seized him by the collar, stopt an empty coach that was going by, and put him directly into the coach, in such a manner that I believe the people in the house had not an opportunity of even suspecting where the master was gone; he was carried before the magistrate; the wife was in custody before. As soon as he was brought there a search warrant was made out, and I, and Mr. Bird the silversmith, and one Jones belonging to the office, went to the house; we found a gold enamelled watch at the tester of the bed; Mr. Bird took it down; I took it in my hand to the office.
Q. What did you find besides the watch?
Barnet. Some silk stockings; I searched further and found this pistol ( producing it) loaded with a ball, which was drawn in the office; and betweed a trunk and a box these tools (producing a parcel of carpenters tools) and a bunch of matches; there were some old clothes put over the tools that nobody could see them; there were several things I cannot enumerate; I carried
Q. What did you find without any assistance from him?
Barnet produces a parcel sealed; he opens it. This watch was the first thing we got in the house; it was then opened and Mr. Bird said by the description of it in the advertisement it was the watch that was lost; the silk stockings were found next.
Q. How many pair?
Barnet. Four or five I believe: these things Mr. Bird stopt (producing a box of little gold things, the heart, &c.) This watch-case, the buckles and this gold, was found in brown paper at the second search.
Q. Was he promised he should receive any favour if he made any discovery?
Barnet. Upon my oath he was not.
Q. Among the things are there any chisels?
Q. Produce them.
Barnet produces four chisels, a center bit and a saw, the maker's name is erased out, and thirteen other center bits of different sizes. I found in the room three little angurs.
Q. to Mrs. Smart. Did that match with the hole in the door?
Q. Did you take notice of any wax on the chisel?
Smart. I made a remark on the center bit.
Q. How near the bolts of the door was that bit taken out?
Smart. It was the bottom pannel.
Q. Then they could reach the bolt of the door?
Q. Was there any larger holes made?
Smart. No, there were no other holes made.
Q. Were the bolts forced?
Smart. No; there was one undone, they had fastened the other up again.
Q. What doors were open?
Smart. The street door.
Q. to Barnet. Was the hole big enough for a boy to get in?
Barnet. Yes; the board is about nine inches across, any man might get in.
Q. Are there any goods you have not spoke to?
Barnet. There are some things in the office that Mr. De Grey did not swear to, that will I believe be advertised.
Mrs. De Grey deposed to most of the things that were produced.
John Partridge . I am a watchman near Mr. De Grey's; on the morning of the robbery as I was going by Mr. De Grey's, at about five minutes after three, I saw a light in the lower window of the closet of Mr. De Grey's house. I had no suspicion of any burglary.
Baily Brett. I am an apprentice to Mr. William Hewlet , an ironmonger in the Strand: I sold five chisels to a person about the be gining of November; I cannot swear to the person; three of them were marked; two were not marked.
Q. Look at these five chisels, are they what you sold?
Brett. I sold these five chisels to one person about the beginning of November.
Q. What private mark is there that you know these chisels by?
Brett. There is our own shop mark of the price of them; I remember selling them very well.
Q. You do not know the person you sold them to?
Q. Did you yourself sell them?
Q. Did he seem to be a foreigner?
Brett. He appeared to me to be such.
Q. How long was he in the shop?
Brett. About a quarter of an hour.
Q. Did he look at any thing else?
Q. From what you heard him say h e appeared to you to be a foreigner?
Brett. Yes, by his speech.
Mr. Bird. I am a silversmith in New-street, Covent-garden. (A case of things shewn him.)
Q. Do you remember any body coming to your house with these things?
Bird. Yes; these things (producing the bars of a pair of garnet drop ear-rings, the gold enamelled fish, &c.) I bought of the prisoner, with a gold enamelled watch chain, and some other little odd things; a seal, and the setting of another seal I bought at the same time of her; she frequently came to my shop; when she first came I questioned her how she came by these things.
Q. You bought them of the prisoner?
Bird. Yes; when she came the second time I stopped her; she said she came honestly by them, and would give an account of them. These things were produced before the Justice; he claimed them as his property.
They are deposed to by Mrs. De Grey.
Q. Were they both together at the time when the things were produced.
Calton. They were. He said he bought them of a Jew walking about, but did not know the man.
Q. Was Mr. Bird there at the time?
Q. to Mr. Bird. You brought these things before the Justice?
Bird. Yes; the things I have now produced.
Q. What did he say respecting the tools?
Bird. He said being of an ingenious disposition he used to amuse himself by making tea-chests, and other small things at his leisure hours. He was examined a second time, and then he said he had them of one De Croy, a hair-dresser.
Q. Did he say he had the tools of De Croy?
Bird. Yes, and the silk stockings and ruffles; upon which De Croy was apprehended. He had them six weeks before that time; this was the 21st of January; De Croy was brought about four or five days afterwards, and the prisoner was sent for from Newgate; when he came he could make out no charge against De Croy, so he was discharged.
Gabriel De Chaund's Defence.
I bought the things. I was not acquainted with the law of this country; I did not know that the things were stolen; I bought them of a man in Soho-square; if I had known they were stole I should not have bought them; what my wife went to sell she was ignorant of; she did not know when I bought them; she was quite innocent of every thing, and she is my wife; what she did was by my order. I lived eight years with Lady Pembroke; I was Butler there; I always bore a good character; nobody could alledge any thing against my character.
Mary Cave . I live in Sackville-street, Piccadilly: I am a single woman; I keep a milliner's shop there. I have known him about seven years; I always heard a good character of him both for sobriety and honestly, and know the family he lived in; when he first married he was a perfumer and hair-dresser.
Q. What has he lately followed?
Cave. The business of hair dressing.
Q. Have you often been with him, or he with you?
Cave. Yes; my mother lived in the family where he was, through her I came acquainted with him.
Q. Are you a married woman?
Q. What business do you follow?
Hodge. I am a mantua-maker.
Q. Have you lodged there so long, or did you know him before you lodged there?
Hodge. I knew him three years before I lodged there; I have lodged there about half a year.
283. (L.) BRIDGET SINGLETON was indicted for stealing one watch with a gold case, value 5 l. one gold snuff box set with moco stones, value 4 l. one silver etwee case, value 15 s. one pair of silver shoe buckles, value 5 s. three silk gowns, value 8 l. one callico petticoat, value 5 s. three worked linen aprons, value 20 s. two pair of linen ruffles, value 5 s. one gause apron laced with thread lace, value 5 s. one worked black lace handkerchief, value 3 s. one silk teresa, value 3 s. one worked wire cap laced, value 5 s. one black bonnet, value 2 s. one silk cloak, value 3 s. two linen aprons, value 2 s. two linen shifts, value 4 s. two cambrick handkerchiefs, value 5 s. and 38 l. in monies, numbered , the property of John Vowell , Dec. 20th . ++
Mr. Vowell. The prisoner was my servant ; she absconded about the 20th of December, and we missed the things mentioned in the indictment about five in the evening; they are chiefly wearing apparel of my wife's and money in her custody.
Q. When did you last see them before you missed them?
Vowell. I do not know but I might see some of them that same day.
Q. Was the bureau locked?
Q. The drawers locked?
Vowell No? I found them missing about five in the evening on the 20th of December.
Q. Did you find the bureau open?
Vowell. Yes; it appeared to be wrenched open.
Q. As to the gown and other things are you positive they were in the drawers at any time?
Vowell Yes: a few days before, I suspected the prisoner; the things were found on her.
Thomas Ratcliffe . I am a constable; the prisoner was advertised, and I took her with one of the gowns on her back; I found her in Liverpoole; the things have been in the Mayor of Liverpoole's house ever since; they are here now; she had a watch hanging by her side. The Mayor's clerk is here.
Mr. Whittal. I am clerk to Mr. Gilwood, who is town clerk of Liverpoole; when the prisoner was apprehended I attended the Mayor to take the information; she said she took the things and the money found upon her from her master Mr. Vowell: they have been in the custody of the Mayor of Liverpoole. (The gown produced.)
Ratcliffe. This is the gown I found upon her.
Whittal. I saw the watch and the things that were found upon her. (The things produced and deposed to by Mrs. Vowel.)
The prisoner said nothing in her defence, but begged the mercy of the court.
For the prisoner.
Samuel Smith . I know the prisoner; I always looked upon her as a sober honest girl; she has often been in my house; I never had any reason to suspect her; I believe it to be her first offence. I dare say Mr. Vowell desires she might appear in as favourable a light as can be to the court.
Guilty . T .
284. (M.) WILLIAM SMITH was indicted for stealing six guineas and 2 s. and 6 d. in money, numbered, the property of Richard Poole , and one bank note for the payment of 15 l. the property of the said Richard Poole , the said note being then due and unsatisfied , Feb. 5th . ++
Isaac George . (a black.) I am a servant to Mr. Rider: I came from Croydon by the direction of Mr. Richard Poole ; I brought a letter to deliver to Mr. Wellbank in the Strand, in that Mr. Poole put the notes mentioned in the indictment, and a small sum of money; I put the letter into my waistcoat pocket, and came to town for the purpose of delivering it, according to the direction. Then I went to a dance at a public-house called the Elephant, in Fenchurch-street; I neglected delivering the letter till I came from that dance; when I came near St. Paul's Church-yard, I met with the prisoner; he spoke to me and asked me where I was going; I said I was going beyond St. Clement's Church; the prisoner said he was going beyond the church, he would be glad to keep me company; the prisoner proposed drinking together; we went into a public house and drank together; we came out and walked on as far as a little beyond St. Clement's Church; when we came to St. Clement's Church the prisoner put his hand in my pocket and took out the letter; I found his hand in my pocket, and saw it come out with the letter in it; I laid hold of him, and in that instant he delivered it to two women of the town; they ran towards the city; I then secured the prisoner; he strove to get away, but I secured him and brought him to the watch-house; there he lodged for the night. Into this letter were put two bank notes, and the money as stated in the indictment; it was about 10 o'clock when I came from the dance; I could never get at the letter again, nor I do not know what became of it, except by broken parcels of a letter that were found; I never saw or knew the prisoner till that time. I am positive I never told the prisoner I had any such letter in my pocket at the time.
Mr. Poole. I put the notes and the money into this letter, and delivered it to this person, in the presence of Mr. Ryder, for him to carry and deliver it to Mrs. Wellbank.
Joseph Beck . Near the watch-house where this prisoner was confined, I found these torn parcels of a letter (producing them.) They appeared to be the letter that was sent by Mr. Poole to Mr. Wellbank.
I did not take the letter; there was a quarrel in the street; he and I took the same part in it; we went together into a public-house, that occasioned our walking together; at St. Clements's Church the black stopped and talked with two blacks; at the end of that conversation he came up and said he was robbed, and charged me with having robbed him.
For the Prosecution.
For the Prisoner.
The Watchman. When the prisoner was brought to the watch-house the charge against him was, that he had taken a letter out of the black's pocket and delivered it to two women, but when he took him up, nothing was said of the letter being delivered to the two women. I thought it but a small charge, the prisoner's having the letter, and there being no desire from the black to any person whatever to pursue the two women there was no enquiry about the women; there was a number of people got together; I never heard of this part of the story of the letter being delivered to the two women before.
Guilty . T .
285. (M.) WILLIAM EVANS was indicted, for that he on the king's highway, on Thomas Roberts , did make an assault, putting him in corporal fear and danger of his life, and stealing from his person a silver watch, value 3 l. a steal chain, value 6 d. a brass key, value 1 d. a guinea, and 6 s. in money, numbered , the property of the said Thomas, Jan. 6th . *
286. (M.) MARY CATHERINE CAMERON was indicted for stealing six linen shifts, two linen petticoats, four laced muslin aprons, four linen table cloths, four blankets, two linen sheets, a cotton gown, eight linen towels, a stuff petticoat, two linen handkerchiefs, two pair of silk stockings, and two damask linen napkins, the property of William Cartwright , in the dwelling house of John Owen . *
(The prisoner being a foreigner, an interpreter was sworn.)
Mary Cartwright . The prisoner lodged at my father's house; I found out that we had been robbed last Sunday was three weeks; when I opened my box and missed my things, a gentleman that was there said it must be done by somebody in the house, and that he suspected one Cameron, who used to keep company with the prisoner; that he had taken some ruffles out of pawn that were pawned by Cameron: I went immediately to Sir John Fielding 's, who gave me an order to Mr. Peel the pawn-broker; I went to Mr. Peel, and he produced the things that are produced here; when she came home at night, I told her I had sufficient proof she had taken the things, and if she did not confess it, I would have a constable that night, but if she would own it she should stay there till morning, and then she owned taking of them.
Peter Beel , the pawnbroker, produced six shifts, an apron, a napkin, two muslin handkerchiefs, one laced handkerchief, two laced hoods, one cap, two cambrick handkerchiefs, and two pillow cases, which were all pawned for 25 s. all produced and deposed to.
- Peel. I took them in of the prisoner; she appeared then in a much different manner; she was always very genteelly dressed; I live in great Portland-street.
The prisoner said nothing in her defence.
Guilty of stealing to the value of 30 s. T .
287. (M.) JOHN JONES was indicted for stealing a wooden drawer with an iron lock, value 2 d. one iron key, value 6 d. one pair of iron scissars, value 2 d. two shillings in money, and one hundred and thirty-two copper half-pence , the property of Ann Snipp , widow , Feb. 2nd . ~
Ann Snipp . I am a widow and live in Long-alley . The prisoner came into my shop the second of this month, about half after one o'clock, and took the till out; I did not see him come in, I saw him go out; I was in the next room: I had just sat down to dinner; seeing him go out in a hurry, I went out, and cried stop thief! there is a glass door between the room and the shop; I saw him through it as I sat by the fire side; when I came into the shop he ran out. This gentleman stopt him, and took the till from him.
Snipp. Yes; I lost 15 s. and upwards, two in silver and the rest in half-pence.
Q. How near to Mrs. Snipp's shop?
Lewesly. About 20 yards; he turned round the corner of my house; I run after him; before I came to him, I saw him stopt.
Q. Had he the till at that time?
Lewesly. Yes; I ran up to him and catched hold of the till; he let it go into my hand.
(The till produced, and deposed to, by the prosecutrix.)
Not guilty, my Lord: I know nothing of it; I work for Squire Grey, a brick-maker .
Guilty . T .
288. (M.) WILLIAM DALTON was indicted for stealing a cloth great coat, value 12 s. two pair of leather breeches, value 20 s. a linen shirt, value 1 s. three muslin neck cloths, value 2 s. two silk handkerchiefs, value 1 s. two linen handkerchiefs, value 1 s. a pair of worsted stockings, value 1 s. and two pair of mens leather shoes, value 6 s. the property of Thomas Folgar , and two thickset frocks, value 10 s. a thickset waistcoat, value 5 s. a linen shirt, value 1 s. and two linen handkerchiefs, value 6 d. the property of Thomas Johnson , Jan. 11 . *
Thomas Folgar . I live with Mr. Schutz; I have known the prisoner two years; he formerly lived with Sir George Colebrook ; at the time of this robbery he lived with one Mr. Reeves, who keeps Barnard's mews : Mr. Schutz keeps horses at the livery; I lay in the mews, over the coach house; the prisoner was hostler at that time to the horses I looked after; he being missing at the time the clothes were missed I suspected him; I enquired after him and he was found at the end of the week at last; he was brought to London on Sunday; I charged him with having stolen these things; he owned he had taken them; he said he was sorry for it; he was carried before Sir John Fielding ; there he owned it again and went with me to Monmouth-street and shewed the place where he had sold the stockings, breeches and shirt. (The things produced.)
Thomas Johnson . I lost the things of mine mentioned in the indictment; I found one thickset frock at the Three Crowns, in Monmouth-street, by the prisoner's directions, who went with us in a coach to shew where he sold them; the prisoner had the other thickset frock and waistcoat on when he was brought from the country.
The prisoner in defence said he borrowed the frock.
He called no witnesses.
Guilty . T .
289. (M.) BURTLE WARREN was indicted for stealing a woodden chest, value 3 s. four pair of leather shoes, value 5 s. two stuff petticoats, value 1 s. and one pair of stays , the property of John Harman , Jan. 15th . ++
- Green. I am a watchman: I stopt the prisoner in Tottenham-court-road, on the 15th of January, with a box upon his back; I asked him where he was going with it; he said he did not know. When he found I insisted upon securing him, he proposed that we should snack it.
(The box with its contents produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
The prisoner, in his defence, said, a man employed him to carry the box.
Guilty . T .
290, 291. (M.) ELIZABETH RICHARDSON and ANN the wife of FRANCIS WILMOT were indicted; the first for stealing 13 lb. of hard soap, value 4 s. the property of the governors and directors of the poor of the parish of St. James , Nov. 3d ; and the other for receiving the said soap well knowing it to have been stolen . ++
Both acquitted .
292. (M.) JAMES GREATWOOD was indicted for stealing a cloth waistcoat trimmed with gold lace, value 10 s. and two pair of worsted stockings, value 3 s. the property of John Carter ; a thickset frock, value 10 s. a linen shirt, value 5 s. a linen neckcloth, value 1 s. a pair of men's leather shoes, value 7 s. and a pair of worstedJoseph Martin , Feb. 2d . ++
John Carter . I am groom to Lord Bateman; Martin is coachman : Martin lost the things mentioned in the indictment out of the room over the stables; I saw them there about half after nine; they were found missing the next morning at eight o'clock; on missing them I went to Rosemary-lane, to the house of one William Harvey ; there I found the things. I have known the prisoner about nine weeks. About four o'clock the same day in which the goods were lost, I saw him in the stable yard; the stable was locked up about half after seven. (The goods produced and deposed to.)
- Martin. My clothes were over the stable; I did not see them after four o'clock the day before; I found them missing at eight next morning; Carter found them in Rosemary-lane and brought them to me. (Martin's clothes produced and deposed to by him.)
The prisoner said nothing in his defence, but begged the mercy of the court.
Guilty . T .
293. (M.) ISABELLA LAWSON , spinster , was indicted for stealing a green worsted purse, value 1 d. and three guineas and a quarter of a guinea in money, numbered , the property of James Young , Jan. 20 . ++
James Young . The prisoner picked me up; I went into a house to her lodgings; I went up stairs with her; there was another girl with her at the time; I gave that girl sixpence to fetch some liquor, that occasioned my putting my hand in my pocket; I found my purse safe at that time; there was in it three guineas and a quarter; about ten minutes after that I put my hand in my pocket and missed my purse; between the time of taking out the sixpence and the time I found it missing, I had been upon the bed with the prisoner; I searched about the bed and it was not there nor in the room; upon charging her with it she made no answer but ran down stairs and endeavoured to escape; I did not see her for two days afterwards.
I know nothing of the money, the other girl took it.
Guilty . T .
Robert Miller . I am servant to Mr. Thomas Jones , who is a linendraper . I remember the prisoner had a piece of cloth under his arm; he was going along the street; one Mr. Ward called upon me, and told me the prisoner had taken these things from my master; I tripped up his heels and took the cloth from him. (Produced and deposed to.)
Mr. Ward. I am a packer: passing by Mr. Jones's shop I saw the prisoner take this cloth from the bulk.
I saw it upon the ground; I picked it up expecting to get a reward for it. I have some friends but they are not here, they are in the Borough.
Guilty . T .
Benjamin Plantain . I came home and found the prisoner in custody; my wife told me she had taken 3 s. from him; I missed half a guinea more out of the till; I charged him with it, and after some time he took it out of his mouth. He is but 14 years old. I sent to his father; he said he would have him prosecuted.
I did not take it out of the till.
Guilty . T .
Joseph Stevens . I keep a public house . On the 23d of January, between six and seven in the evening, I lost 15 wooden crops; they were in two parcels hung up behind the door: my house is a watering house for coachmen; one of the coachmen took them down to look at; I bid him tie them up and hang them up again, which he did; the prisoner was in the house, and had a pennyworth of purl; there was a call for three or four coachmen; they went out; a coachman came in and wanted a stick; my wife called to me to know if I had taken them down; I came to see, and the prisoner was gone.
Q. Could the prisoner have gone out of the place and taken them at this time?
Stevens. He sat by the fire in the tap room; these were behind the door.
Q. Could the prisoner go out without your seeing of him?
Stevens. I was not in the tap room when he went out.
Q. What is the prisoner?
Stevens. A coachman . A gentleman's servant came in as we were talking of the sticks, and said he saw a man go out with the sticks under his arm; I went and found the sticks at George Lewsmore's, where he had sold them. (The sticks produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
George Lewsmore . The prisoner brought the sticks into my house about nine o'clock; I keep the Magpye and Horse-shoe in Fenchurch-street; he offered them to sale; I told him to call the waterman to look at them; the waterman said they were very good sticks; he asked me to buy them; he asked 5 s. for them; I gave him 4 s. Mr. Stevens came to enquire after them about an hour and a half after he was gone; I shewed them to him; he said they were his; I delivered them to the constable.
Q. Did you sell any other bundle of sticks about that time to one Mr. Stevens?
Wood. No; I sold them him about a fortnight before.
Q. to Stevens. You bought these sticks of Wood?
Hudson. I am servant to Mr. Lewsmore; the prisoner brought these very sticks into my master's house.
I am as innocent as the child unborn in taking the sticks and selling them.
Guilty 10 d. W .
297. (L.) JOHN PLUMB was indicted for stealing 7 lb. of pork, value 3 s. 2 lb. of pork sausages, value 14 d. one quarter of a guinea, and eight-pence halfpenny in money, numbered , the property of Edward Eaton . Jan. 19th . ~
Sarah Pring . The prisoner came to my master's (the prosecutor's) house on the 19th of January, and ordered a spring of pork, and two pound of sausages, to be sent to Broad-street; I went with him and took the spring or pork only then; when we came to Broad-street he took me to the back part of the South-Sea-house; then he took the pork from me and carried it up one pair of stairs, and bid me stay till he brought the tray; he came down and bid me fetch the sausages, and change for half a guinea; I went and fetched them; when I came to the house he met me in the passage, and said he was coming to seek after me; he asked me for the change and the sausages; I gave it him, he sent me up stairs, and said I should see the kitchen up stairs, and the cook would order some more sausages, and give me the half guinea; he said he had turkies a roasting; I went up stairs but found no kitchen there; then I perceived I was bit. He was taken on the Monday following.
Q. How do you know the prisoner is the man?
Pring. I went with him and took particular notice of him; he was in the same dress when he was taken as when he came first.
I did not do any such thing; I know nothing about it.
Q. What distance of time was there from your going home and returning?
Pring. I went as fast as I could; I was not above ten minutes.
For the Prisoner.
John Templeton . I have known the prisoner eight or nine years; I know nothing but what was just and honest by him; he was a cheesemonger; he failed as many have done, but paid his way as well as he could.
Q. How long is it since he failed in business as a cheesemonger?
Bunting. A year and a half; since that he has been a porter.
Guilty . T .
Henry Brooks . On the 25th of January, between the hours of two and three, as I was going through St. Paul's Church Yard , Mr. Payne asked me if I had lost my handkerchief, I felt in my pocket and missed it; Payne had taken the man: he unbuttoned the slap of his breeches and found my handkerchief; I owned it; the prisoner said he hoped we would not hurt him.
William Payne . On the 25th of January, coming up Cheapside, at Mr. Smith's print shop, I saw the prisoner make several attempts, but he did nothing; he went into St. Paul's Church Yard; Mr. Brooks was looking at some pictures; the prisoner went up and took the handkerchief out of his pocket; I saw him stoop and put it into his breeches; I asked Mr. Brooks if he had lost his handkerchief; he first said no, then he felt and said yes. I examined the flap of the prisoner's breeches, and there I found it; when we came before my Lord Mayor I found three more on him.
The prisoner said nothing in his defence.
Guilty . T .
Edward Porter . I am a hosier ; I saw the prisoner come into the shop and take the stockings, and put them under his coat slap; I was at dinner in a little parlour in the shop; the door was open so that I could see him; I pursued him, and took him by Aldgate Church with the goods upon him.
John Williams . The prisoner run by me by Aldgate Church; the prosecutor followed him and took him; there were four pair of stockings sell from him; the prosecutor took two pair more from under his jacket.
I was coming down the Minories; I saw some people running along Whitechapel; I went into the mob and saw some stockings lying in the mud; I picked them up and laid them over a post at the end of Houndsditch; as soon as I
Q. to Williams. Was the man running?
Williams. Yes, close by me; they were both running.
Q. to the Prosecutor. Could you be mistaken in the person of the man?
Porter. No; he was never out of my sight.
Q. Did the prisoner say any thing?
Porter. He made no defence at all.
Guilty . T .
299, 300, 301. (M.) RICHARD BILBY , JOHN BEAZOR and RICHARD BEAZOR were indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling house of Thomas Parr , on the 28th of December , about the hour of two in the night, and stealing four silver table spoons, value 40 s. six silver desert spoons, value 3 l. one silver marrow spoon, value 7 s. seven tea spoons, value 14 s. two silver salts and shovels, value 30 s. one silver cream ewer, value 20 s. a silver pepper castor, value 20 s. one silver tankard, value 5 l. one pair of silver spurs, value 20 s. a pair of silver shoe buckles, value 7 s. one silver leg cork screw, value 4 s. one laced linen handkerchief, value 10 s. one laced linen cap, value 5 s. twenty-three linen handkerchiefs, value 8 s. eleven linen stocks, value 11 s. two linen shirts, value 8 s. eight linen night caps, value 8 s. two linen aprons, value 4 s. two pair of thread stockings, value 6 s. one pair of muslin laced ruffles, value 10 s. one pair of leather boots, value 15 s. and three pair of leather shoes, value 5 s. the property of the said Thomas Parr , in his dwelling house . *
Mr. Parr. I live at Whetstone : my house was broke open on the 28th of December, about two in the night; it was the kitchen garden window that was broke; my maid and I were up the last; I always look to see every thing is safe before I go up stairs; I saw the window was fast at night; Bilby had lived with me about a month or three weeks before, and while he was in my service the springs of the pins to the windows had been broke: the way they got in was by breaking two panes of glass, and then by turning the pins the keys fell out, and so they got in at the window; my maid in the morning told me my house had been broke. I went to Sir John Fielding 's and made an information; I told him I had a great suspicion of this Bilby and these two men. I got a warrant from Sir John Fielding and took Bilby and John Beazor at Clapham, and Richard Beazor was taken at his father's in Norfolk.
Christopher Smith . I am servant to the keeper of the house of correction in the Borough: (produces the milk pot, the tea spoons, the desert spoons and pepper castor); all these I took out of Bilby's pocket when I apprehended him at Clapham.
Mr. Parr. These are my property; there was a crest of a mermaid upon them, but it is erased.
Anna Maria Bennet . I live in the Borough: my husband is a pawnbroker; a woman came to offer some things to pledge; upon examining of them I found the marks had been erased; upon which I asked her where she had them; she told me they belonged to her mother, who kept a gentleman's house at Clapham, and had sent her to pawn them; seeing the marks erased, I said I imagined the girl's mother had made too free with the plate of the people where she lived: therefore I would stop them till she brought somebody to give her a character, so as to entitle her to have them delivered again; she said she could bring people enough for her character; and she went away with that intention as I understood, but however I heard nothing more of her for some days; upon which I thought it proper to advertise these things. I accordingly sent an advertisement to the paper describing the spoons, and that the marks were enrased. On Saturday John Beazor and two other men came to my shop, and asked for the spoons, which were stopped on Wednesday; I told them there was none stopped on Wednesday; for the spoons were stopped on Monday; he said they were stopt there and he would have them; I said I would not deliver them up without an order from the Justice of peace; I asked them if they would go before the Justice of peace, and swear to the property; we went to the Justice's house, a few doors off; he was not at home; I came back to the shop; as soon as the Justice came home Beazor and the other two went to the Justice's; John Beazor went in; the tall man ( Richard Beazor ) would not go in: I was sent for; when the Justice had heard what the whole story was, he ordered Beazor into custody. I proposed their going
Nicholas Raven . I live in Branham in Norfolk; I received a letter from Sir John Fielding to apprehend this Richard Beazor : I am high constable of that hundred; I went in pursuit of him and found him; when I had taken him up, he delivered to me a handkerchief, and that was the only thing he had of Mr. Parr's; that they had sold the pair of boots and shoe buckles; afterwards a search warrant was granted to search the farmer's house with whom Beazor lived; we searched but could find nothing; but the farther soon afterwards brought me a parcel containing some more of Mr. Parr's plate (produced and deposed to by the prosecutor)
- Roben. As I was bringing him up to London he made a full confession of the whole: he told me that Bilby broke the glass and got in at the window, but he had only one foot in the house.
Percival Phillips . As we were bringing him up to London, he told me had sold a pair of buckles at Lynn; I went with him there, and put him in the house of correction while I made enquiry about these shoe buckles; Richard Beazor himself told me they were sold at the Waterman's Arms; I went there and found the buckles were there as Richard Beazor had said; they were sold for 9 s. I was forced to pay for them again; (produced and deposed to by Mr. Parr.) As we came from Lynn in the coach Beazor told me he had sold a pair of boots at Hockeril; I made enquiry after them there; I found the man they had been sold too, and likewise two handkerchiefs (produced and deposed to by Mr. Parr)
Joseph Roberts . I went to Bilby at Clapham and found the pepper castor upon him; when John Beazor and Bilby were together John Beazor said nothing, afterwards he said they carried away an apple-pye, a dish that was about six or seven inches over: and some bread and butter, which they eat upon the road.
Charles Ballard . I am a carpenter at Hockeril: all the three prisoners came to the Red Lion and offered to sell these boots; they were all present all the time they were offered to be sold; I bought them: these are the boots I bought of them; they are very remarkable; they are single channels: I never saw a pair of single channel boots before in my life.
We were going to take a walk: Bilby walked with us; Bilby stopped: we walked about a quarter of a mile; we halted: Bilby broke into this house, and came up to us afterwards with these things: we were walking along: we wanted for him till he came up; he had mentioned this that that was the house where he had lived, and he had got in and out many a time, and he could get in easily; we both refused going with him, and begged of him not to go; we did not think he intended to go; he told us afterwards he had broke into this house and got these things out; he carried them to Clapham; we went to Clapham that night.
This is all false: he went into the house and took the boots himself off the shelf.
John Beazor's Defence.
Bilby desired his brother and I to go out with him; he said his master's house was easy to break open.
Q. What business are you?
Bishop. A coach-master; I kept a great number of coaches; he was with me pretty near five years; his character was very good; then he went to a gentleman and lived with him till he died; from thence he went to live with Dr. Wilson.
Bishop. Yes, I believe so; when he was out of place he came and staid with me seven or eight months.
Q. How long ago?
Bishop. About a year after he was gone from me; Mr. and Mrs. Parr, with whom I was pretty intimate, asked me his character; I gave him a good character; I said he was an idle boy without looking after, but honest and sober.
Q. Do you give him a good character or a bad character; what is his general character?
All three guilty . Death .
Joseph Mead . I am shop-man to Mr. Jones, No. 370, Oxford-road. On the 2d of February Daniel Whiteside gave me an information that the prisoner had taken the cloth from a bulk; I followed her; when I got within three yards of her she dropped it; I never lost sight of her from the time I saw her first. I secured her and took her before a justice who committed her.
Q. Are you sure that is Mr. Jones's cloth?
Mead. Yes; I know it exceeding well; it came in the night before the woman took it; it has the shop mark upon it: I did not miss it till the young man came in and said it was gone; I had seen it about half an hour before.
Coming by this shop I saw a mob; I looked down and saw a piece of cloth upon the ground.
She called two witnesses who gave her a good character.
Guilty . T .
Ann Carpenter . I am a journeywoman to Mr. Norton, who lives next to Temple Bar : on Tuesday the 16th of this month the prisoner came into the shop, between two and three o'clock, and asked for some lace; I did not serve her; another person shewed her some lace in a box; while I was serving a lady in the shop she said the prisoner had took a card of lace; upon which I rung for Mr. Norton, who was up stairs; before he came down the prisoner took a piece of lace from under her cloak and delivered it to me, and said there is your lace, I only did it out of a frolick; but denied having any more; Mr. Norton came down; he desired his sister to search if there was any more about her; she denied there was; I was present when Miss Norton searched; there was a card of lace concealed between her stays and bosom; this is the same piece of lace (producing it); it came out of the box of lace that was shewn to the prisoner.
Elizabeth Norton . My brother called me down stairs and desired me to strip the prisoner; which I did: the lace was found between her stays and body. The prisoner said she took this piece too only out of a frolick.
I never had but one piece of lace, which I took up to look at; it fell upon the ground. My witnesses are not come to my character.
Guilty. Death .
Recommended by the Prosecutor and the Jury
304. (M.) JAMES LEVER was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling house of John Cooke , on the 7th of February about the hour of one in the night, and stealing one tablecloth, value 2 s. one laced apron, value 3 s. one muslin handkerchief, value 1 s. two childrens gowns and petticoats, value 1 s. 6 d. two childrens shifts, value 6 d. two childrens caps, value 2 d. one dimity petticoat, value 4 s. one pair of shift sleeves, value 1 s. one piece of linen cloth, value 2 s. two pillow cases, value 6 d. one white handkerchief, value 1 s. one linen sheet, value 2 s. one black silk hat, value 1 s. the property of the said John Cooke in his dwelling house . ++
Jane Cooks . I am the wife of John Cooke , who keeps a public house . Our house was broke open on the 7th of this month, some time in the night; I went to bed between nine and ten on Sunday night, and in the morning as soon as it was light I was alarmed by a labouring man that lives in the house, that the house was broke open; I found the window shutters wrenched open; the hinges were wrenched off; the lock of the parlour doorJohn Fielding 's, and had bills dispersed; I had a letter the next day that some of the things were found; I came to town and saw them at Justice Welch's.
George Hannan . I am a watchman: I found these things under the prisoner's arm, before five o'clock in the morning, this day fortnight, in the street; I took the bundle and the prisoner to the Round-house, and in the morning I took him to Justice Welch's; the bundle has been in my custody ever since; (the goods produced and deposed to by Mr. Cooke). When I met the prisoner I asked him where he was going with these things; he said he came from Highgate with them; that they were his father's dirty things; I told him I could not think he came honestly by them; I secured him.
Ann Williams . I am servant to Mrs. Cooke: I fastened the house up that night between nine and ten o'clock; I saw the things safe in the parlour; I got up about seven o'clock in the morning; my mistress was down before me; when I came down the linen on the horse, and all the things in the drawers were gone; the lock of the parlour door that came from the back to the fore parlour was picked; it was as if it was opened by a key.
George Gurney . I lodge in the house; I got up about five o'clock. I went the back way out of the house; the window shutters were broke open; I saw it as soon as I went out of the door; I went in and alarmed another gentleman that lodges in the house as well myself.
I had been drinking at Highgate; coming by Mother Red Caps I found this bundle.
Guilty of stealing the goods but not of the burglary . T .
Joseph Bampton . I lodge at a little lodge at Lord Holland's; I know the hides of the cows, are the hides of the cows belonging to Lord Holland; I bought the cows for Lord Holland, and bred the heifer, and they have been under my care ever since. I saw the cows last Sunday night was fortnight when they were turned out in the evening; I missed them at seven o'clock next morning.
Q. Where were they when they were sent out in the evening?
Bampton. A boy drove them down to a rick near the house.
Q. Were they both in milk?
Q. Tell us the colour of the cows?
Bampton. The heifer was mostly white, red, and a little mixed with brindle, and the cow was red and white on the back and some white on the belly.
Q. Was there any other mark?
Bampton. There was a mark on the right ear of the cow.
Q. How was it marked?
Bampton. A quarter of the ear cut out of the underside.
Q. Was there any thing particular about the horns?
Bampton. It had a littlelish horn, white in the middle, and very yellow at the point.
Q. Any thing particular in the horns of the heifer?
Bampton. They were not come to their full growth, the dogs on them were not come off, and the splinters on the middle of the horn; it had a fine yellow horn; it was about seven years old.
William Sheriff . I am gardener to Lord Holland: I missed the cows on the 8th of this month about 12 o'clock; I went to the turnpike about one, and the turnpikeman told me two cows were drove through the turnpike, by two men, but he could give no account of the cows or men. On Tuesday morning, about 10 o'clock, I went into Leadenhall-market and found the skins which I am certain were the skins of the cows; the cow was about six or seven years old, a bright red colour, with a white stripe from the shoulder, all along her back, and some white on the belly; her horns were partly
Q. Whose possession were the skins in?
Sheriff. Mr. Wansley, a salesman, in Leadenhall-market, on Tuesday morning.
Q. Did you receive any carcases?
Wansley. Yes; I received three sides of beef: they came first, at three o'clock in the morning; the hides came afterwards.
Q. What kind of meat were they?
Wansley. The heifer was goodish; the cow very middling.
Q. Two milch cows could not be very good in the winter?
Wansley. The heifer was pretty good.
Q. Is it usual to kill milch cows at this time of the year?
Q. The being milch cows, and the poverty of the man, did not raise any suspicions in your mind?
Q. Did you know the porter before?
Wansley, Yes, he has several times brought meat to me.
Q. Do you remember two cows being driven through the turnpike?
Chadwel. Yes, this day fortnight in the morning, between two and three o'clock: I am placed at Kensington Gravel Pits.
Q. You cannot tell whether they were cows?
Chadwel. No; they were two head of cattle driven by two men: I could not distinguish the cows or the men.
Q. Who did you receive them of?
Edwards. Cotton employed me to take it; I took them by the order of Cotton.
Q. Was the prisoner there?
Q. When was the prisoner there?
Edwards. At five in the morning; he quartered the beef.
Q. What time was you there first?
Edwards. At twelve o'clock on Monday noon.
Q. Had you seen the prisoner or Cotton that morning before you went there?
Q. Neither of them?
Q. You went to Mr. Banting's about twelve o'clock: who sent for you?
Edwards. Mrs. Banting herself.
Q. Who did you find there?
Edwards. The prisoner and Cotton.
Q. Who was the first that spoke to you?
Edwards. Cotton; he said my lad I shall have a job for you in the morning; that was Tuesday morning; which was to carry these two bodies of beef up; there were two fresh bodies of beef, fresh killed, hanging in the slaughter-house.
Q. Were the hides taken off at that time?
Edwards. Yes they were; taken off of the backs when I came into the slaughter-house.
Q. Were they lying in the slaughter-house?
Edwards. Yes; they are the same I carried to Wansley; I was to call in the morning at five o'clock; it being frosty I was obliged to have a man to help me; I stood waiting a quarter of an hour for somebody to deliver the beef to me, and the prisoner came and asked if I was ready to take the beef; I said I was, and had got another porter to help me; we went into the slaughter-house, and he quartered a side for us to take; we took one quarter to Leadenhall; we returned and took another, and then we took a third, and then the prisoner paid the the other man 1 s. 6 d. and asked me if I wanted my money; I said let it alone till I carry the hides. When I came from carrying the other quarter of beef the prisoner was in the public house; I asked him if I should take the hides up; he told me he did not know till Cotton was there; then I went up to the hall again about my business, and when I came down I took up the hides, in consequence of Cotton's order the day before. I did not see Cotton nor the prisoner again till he was taken up.
Q. Who paid you?
Edwards. Cotton; he came to me to the slaughter-house about three o'clock, and paid
Q. When you delivered the beef to Wansley did you receive any money for it?
Q. to Wansley. Did you sell the beef?
Q. Did you pay the money to any body?
Edwards. To Cotton; he came for it about nine or ten o'clock the same day.
Q. How did you sell it?
Edwards. Two sides at 2 3/4 d. and two sides at 2 d a pound.
Q. to Edwards. Do you know what became of the other side of beef?
Edwards. Yes; I carried it to Mr. Hunt, salesman in the.
Q. Do you know West?
Q. Do you remember Sheriff coming to you?
Q. When did you see West?
Banting. On Monday the 8th; we were in bed; we heard a cry of hollow! we did not answer the first time; the next time we asked what they wanted; they said to kill two heifers; they said they had killed two there six weeks before; my husband asked what time they wanted to come; they said in half an hour my husband had a cold, and I myself got up and let them in; there were the prisoner and Cotton, and they had two beasts.
Q. Who drove in the beasts?
Banting. The prisoner and Cotton.
Q. Did you take any notice of the hides?
Banting. No, not in particular; they were red and white.
Q. They were killed at your slaughter-house?
Q. What time?
Banting. Between eight and nine.
Q. Was you present when Edwards was sent for?
Banting. I sent for him to kill some sheep; my husband was at market; when my husband came home he went out with Wansley and Sheriff; I asked him where he was going; he made answer not far; I looked after him and saw him go with two strangers; presently after Edwards came and said, Mrs. Banting, I am afraid the cows were stolen; I said I am afraid so too, and if they come for the other side they shall not have it; he said no, don't set them. About half an hour after, Cotton came with two porters to take the quarter; I called to an officer of the Marshal's Court to aid and assist, for I believed they had stolen the cows; I shut the door and kept them in; the porters said I could not do it without a warrant; I sent my child to fetch a constable but he was not at home, and then to another and he was not at home; I kept them in half an hour; at last they begged me to let them out; the officer of the Marshal's Court said I could not keep them without a warrant; I told him not to let them go but keep them at the public house; they went to the public house and the officer let them go.
Henry Banting . The prisoner came to my house on the Monday; I saw him and Cotton in the slaughter-house. Two men called that morning at six o'clock; I asked who was there; one said it is the man who killed two cows here six weeks ago, and wanted to know if they could kill two there then; they said they wanted the slaughter-house opened in half an hour. When I was at breakfast Cotton came to the window and asked me to send them a hand up with one of the beasts; it was lying upon its back; there were only Cotton and the prisoner there.
Q. Had you any conversation with West?
Ba nting. No; they were talking about the price of beef in the country; and asked me what I thought this cost; I said I did not know; Cotton said in the country they cost eleven pounds, and that they thought them very cheap, that they thought they bought bargains; I said upon my word I cannot buy such a beast as the best of these under nine or ten guineas in Smithfield.
On Monday se'ennight I came to the Borough market to get some fruit for my wife to sell; when I came there I saw two beasts standing, and a man and a boy; when I returned in about half an hour, there was Cotton, and a man and a boy with the beasts; they asked me if I would go and help them to kill the beasts; they said they would kill them at Williams's; they drove the beasts along and accordingly I followed them to help kill them; when we came to the slaughter-house they put the beasts in, and went to get another man to help to kill them; I went to a public house just by; they got somebody; the beasts were knocked down and killed, and
Guilty . Death .
Thomas Tolley . I am a hosier in the Strand : about seven o'clock at night, on Saturday se'ennight, the prisoner came into my shop, and asked to see some silk stockings; I opened a bundle; he pitched on some, as many as came to 30 s. and then he wanted to make them a dozen pair; I shewed him some more, and the gentleman took his hat off his head to match his stockings to his hat.
Q. Were they black stockings?
Tolley. No, white. I suppose he took an opportunity to put them under his hat; I shewed him a pair of stockings that had a particular mark in them; I looked for them and missed them; I saw his hand go several times to his hat, so I catched hold of his hat and found three pair of silk stockings under it: I kept them in his hat till I sent for a constable.
Q. Did you examine them: whose stockings were they?
Q. Was there any mark?
Tolley. Yes; (produces them).
Q. How are they marked?
Tolley. One pair with a 9 and 6; another pair was marked N, my private mark.
I did not put the stockings into the hat myself; I put my hat on the counter, and tumbling the stockings about they fell in; I went to take up my hat, and he said what are you going to do with the stockings; I said they came there unknown to me; he said if I would pay for them he would not hurt me; I had not money to pay for them, so he said he would keep my hat; I said I would not go wit out it because he accused me wrongfully.
Guilty . Death .
306. (M.) ANN HAAG was indicted for stealing one cloth petticoat, value 1 s. one cotton counterpane, value 1 s. d. one pair of women's stays, value 6 d. one pair of men's leather gloves, value 3 d. and one wooden flute, value 2 d. the property of Elizabeth Fleetwood , widow , Feb. 9th . ||
Henry Collier I am a linen-draper in the Strand . Last Thursday three weeks, about a quarter before eight, I heard the window break; I went immediately out and heard the cry of stop thief; somebody said the thief was gone down the court, which is at the corner of my house; a man at an eating house in the court pursued him, and took him in Beaufort-buildings; we brought him into my shop, and we observed both his hands were bloody; he said he was not the person that broke the window; a gentleman that was going by at the time, said he saw him break the window; I know the handkerchiefs were in the window; I did not miss them till I came back; he gave several different accounts about cutting his hands.
William Langford . I live at the eating-house: I was in the passage; I heard a cry of stop thief; I and Collier run together, and we took the prisoner; he was then walking very slowly; I thought he was the lad because I saw him run by; we brought him to the shop.
Richard Fletcher . I was passing along and saw two lads walking by Mr. Collier's window, looking at it; I took particular notice of them, and know the prisoner was one; I went two doors beyond the shop and crossed the way; I came back and kept my eye towards the shop; I saw that lad and three more then at the cornet of the court in company together; immediately as I came opposite the court the prisoner broke the window, and took something out of a dark colour; I crossed the way, and asked the mistress of the shop if she had lost any thing; she
My mother keeps a public house. I went out that night and went into a public house at the Fleet-market for a pint of beer, and cut my hand by cutting a piece of bread; I went from there up the Strand: I met three lads; they asked me where I was going; I said what was that to them; they pulled out some silk handkerchiefs, and wanted me to take them; I would not; somebody cried stop thief; they all run away; and they took me.
For the Prisoner.
James Flint . I live in Swallow-street, St. James's: I am a publican. I have known the prisoner ten years; I never knew any thing dishonest of him before: he is a plane and saw maker; it is a very good business.
John Patterson . I keep the Rose and Crown in Newport-street: I have known the prisoner six or seven years; I never knew any thing dishonest of him before; he has had great opportunities if he had meant to have been dishonest.
Guilty . T .
309. (M.) DANIEL M'KENZIE was indicted for stealing one linen shirt, value 10 s. one pair of silk stockings, value 6 s. two linen stocks, value 3 s. and three pieces of linen, value 3 s. the property of William Duer . ||
310. (M.) MOSES ROBUS , alias MOSES ROBINSON , was indicted for stealing one large hair trunk, value 2 s. one pair of stays, value 8 s. one silk slip, value 30 s. three cambrick frocks, value 30 s. four linen frocks, value 24 s. one light coloured quilted petticoat, value 4 s. three dimity petticoats, value 6 s. two flannel petticoats, value 2 s. nine linen shifts, value 18 s. six linen night caps, value 3 s. seven pair of thread stockings, value 7 s. one pair of worsted-stockings, value 1 s. two pair of leather shoes, value 4 s. one pair of stuff shoes, value 2 s. four gauze caps trimmed with blond lace, value 10 s. two pair of muslin cuffs, value 6 d. nine linen tuckers, value 9 d. two silk bonnets, value 1 s. one silk cloak trimmed with lace, value 2 s. two pair of leather gloves, value 6 d. one pair of silk mittens, value 6 d. six linen towels, value 1 s. 6 d. five linen handkerchiefs, value 2 s. 6 d. and three linen pockets, value 6 d. the property of Margaret Mitchel , spinster , Jan 27th . ||
311. (M.) MARY TUDOR was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling house of John Gray , on the 30th of January, about the hour of nine in the night, and stealing five pair of leather gloves, value 5 d. one pair of worsted stockings, value 5 d. the property of the said John, in his dwelling house. ||
Robert Miller . I am servant to Mr. Jones, a linen-draper , in Oxford-street, near the Pantheon : on last Saturday was a week, in the afternoon, about two o'clock, Mary Wood came into our shop; she had been two or three times to buy a handkerchief; we could not agree; the other prisoner stood by a piece of cloth on the bulk, on the outside of the window; I suspected she was going to take it away; I removed it. A young man called at the shop; I told him I believed there was a thief at the door, and set him to watch; I watched her but she did not take the cloth; Wood bought the handkerchief; and they both went away, and crossed over the way backwards and forwards; then another person (Dignam) came in to speak to me, and we went after the prisoners, and found them in Oxford-street facing the shop.
Q. What had they with them?
Miller. This piece of cloth tied up in a handkerchief.
Q. Who had it?
Q. Whose cloth was that?
Miller. My master's property; there is my mark upon it; I cannot say whether it was taken out of the shop or from the bulk.
Richard Dignan . On Saturday the 13th I had been to Cavendish-square with a letter; I came into the shop; the young man said I believe there has been two shop lifters here; I want you to look for them: I went to a public house and watched them; they did not take any thing, but came away from the shop; I heard Smith say to Wood it will not do, it is removed; afterwards I went over the way, and laid hold of them, and took this cloth from under Wood's cloak, tied up in her handkerchief.
I was going up the road: being a cold day I went to have a pennyworth of gin, at the corner; a man came and delivered this, and said will either of you hold this five minutes, while I go a little way; it was laid down; one would not take it and the other would not take it; it lay on the bench; I waited ten minutes; the man never came back, so I took it up, and by this means it was found upon me. I go out to ironing every day.
I know nothing at all of it.
Both guilty of stealing, but not privately in the shop .
314. (L.) ISAAC LAZARUS was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling house of Walter Matthew and Jasper Holmes on the 31st of January , about the hour of nine in the night, and stealing one cheese 24 lb, value 8 s. the property of the said Walter Matthews and Jasper Holme 's, in their dwelling house. ||
Josper Holmes, I am a cheesemonger , in partnership with Walter Matthews ; the house is jointly rented between us both; I occupy the house where this fact was done: the lower part is a warehouse; I occupy the upper part of it; the warehouse is occupied by the partnership; the upper part I live in; Mr. Matthews occupies the upper part of the shop, and I the upper part of the warehouse; the warehouse door was fastened on the Saturday night; we never open it on Sunday; it was found broke open on Sunday evening, the 31st of January; I did not see any appearance of force; I look upon it the lock was picked; there was a cheese missing; it was found on the prisoner.
Q. Do you know any thing of the prisoner?
John Squires . I am one of the constables: going into the watch-house opposite Mr. Holmes's I saw a man stand in the passage, which I did not like; I went past Mr. Holmes's house; when I came back, I saw the prisoner come out of the house, as if he had something under his arm; he and another man crossed towards me; I looked at them; I knew they were not Mr. Holmes's servants; they were going towards Cheapside; they turned about and went down St. Martin's-le-grand; then the prisoner gave the cheese to the other man; I followed them down St. Martin's-le-grand, and saw the prisoner take the cheese from the other man again. I followed him to Maiden-lane and looked him full in the face; he said, D - n your eyes, why do you look at me; I said is there any harm in looking at you; he said, D - n you, yes; I said I believe you are a thief, and insist on knowing what you have got; I laid hold of his collar; I said you have been robbing Mr. Holmes in Panyer's-alley; he gave me a blow on the temples and ran as fast as the could; I called stop thief, and he was stopped.
I had been to take a coach at the Bell, in Holborn, for my aunt; coming home to Angel-alley, Bishopsgate-street, I went to ease myself by Warwick-lane; I saw a bag lie and packed it up, as another man would do; the man laid hold of me going home, and asked me what I
Squires. He swore he would do for me if he got clear; he threatened me at the Mansion-house.
For the Prisoner.
Rush Antrobus. I have known the prisoner from his infancy; he has a wife and one child: I never knew any harm of him, nor ever heard of any in my life.
- Abraham. I have known the prisoner twenty years; he is a very honest industrious man.
Guilty of stealing the cheese, but not of the burglary . T .
315. (L.) WILLIAM BAGNALL was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling house of Alice Roach , widow , on the 4th of February , about the hour of seven in the night, and stealing two cotton gowns, value 10 s. one stuff gown, value 5 s. one silk cloak, value 5 s. one woollen cloth cloak, value 3 s. one silk petticoat, value 25 s. one stuff petticoat, value 4 s. and one silk handkerchief, value 1 s. the property of the said Alice, in his dwelling house. ||
317. (M.) WILLIAM CAYTON was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling house of Kevenhuller Skinner , on the 9th of February , about the hour of six in the night, and stealing one gold ring, value 4 s. the property of the said Kevenhuller in his dwelling house. ++
(The witnesses were examined apart at the request of the prisoner.)
Kevenhuller Skinner . I live at the corner of Bedford Berry in Wood-street : I keep a goldsmiths shop . About six in the evening, on Tuesday the 9th of this month, I was in the parlour adjoining to the shop, nailing some list round the door; I came into the shop and saw the prisoner taking some rings out of the window, and giving them to an accomplice that was stooping down beside him: the shew glass is a part of the window within the walls of the house.
Q. When the shop is shut is it within or without the shutters?
Skinner. It is within the shutters. I had no time to hesitate; I ran out and caught the prisoner by the collar; there was nobody passing; I dragged him to the other side of the way, in hopes I might meet with somebody in the public house to assist me; I got him to the door; I had him by the collar with one hand; he struck at me, and said, D - n your eyes what do you mean by laying hold of me, and got away; what he had in his hand he threw away after he had got from me; I pursued him through the court; he lost his hat, and there I lost him. I came back and my wife found the ring in the street, in the very place I described he had dropt it in.
Q. How did he get his hand into the shew glass, was the glass broke?
Skinner. Yes; by whom I am not certain; it was not broke before.
Q. How far from the door did he throw away the ring?
Skinner. It might be within three yards from the door.
Q. from the Prisoner. He said before Sir John he had my hat.
Skinner. I said so; I have it now; the hat that dropped from his head.
Mrs. Skinner. I am the wife of the former witness: my husband was lifting the door; he went into the shop; I heard a bustle; I went to the door and saw my husband and the prisoner at the alehouse door; he got away and my husband pursued him and took him. My husband told me the ring was dropt, and I took a candle and found it.
Q. Where did you find the ring?
Skinner. In the street, about a couple of yards from the door. (The ring produced and deposed to).
When before Sir John Fielding she swere to the person's having a brown coat; I had this jacket on. As I was coming along (I had been in the city, at the India-house) I stopt at a door in Wood-street; there was a mob, and this gentleman came up to me and laid hold of me, and he and six men dragged me up to Sir John Fielding 's, who sent me to Tothil-fields Bridewell, a place I never was in before, and they wanted to bring in a man to swear against me; God knows who he is, but he said he could not. My Lord, I think it is a hard thing for any man to swear to a single gold ring; there are many wire rings alike.
Q. from the Jury to the Prosecutor. How many rings did you lose that night?
Skinner. Three or four I believe; I cannot say.
Guilty of stealing the ring, but not of the burglary . T .
John White . I lost my watch in One Tun Court, in the Strand . This girl took me to shew me a lodging; she pretended she would get me one. When I came to the top of the stairs, at one Mrs. Wixes's, she snatched the watch out of my pocket.
Q. What did you do there?
White. We did a little business; she snatched it out of my pocket and ran down stairs.
Q. Was this the lodging she said she would shew you to?
Q. What are you?
White. A cabinet-maker .
Q. Where did you see this woman to ask her to get you a lodging?
White. At the top of Bedford-street.
Q. Did you ever see this woman before?
White. Yes, many times.
Q. Are you sure you had your watch at that time?
White. Yes, because I put my hand upon it at the top of the stairs.
Q. Might not you drop your watch?
White. No; I made search for it but did not find it; she ran away.
Q. When did she snatch the watch out?
White. To the best of my knowledge between one and two on Sunday morning.
Q. This was after you had had your gallantry together?
White. Yes, immediately.
Q. from the Jury. Was you sober?
White. I was not drunk: I had been in company with shop-mates.
As I was going home I met this gentleman and two girls; they asked me to go and drink with them; I went; they began to quarrel and so I went home. Ask him if he did not say the other girl with him had robbed him the week before of some money.
Q. Did you say that?
White. No; one of the girls with her had bilked me of some money before.
Guilty of stealing the watch, but not privately from his person . T .
319. (M.) ROBERT WRIGHT was indicted for stealing one pair of linen sheets, value 2 s. two linen pillow cases, value 6 d. one brass candlestick, value 6 d. one bed quilt, value 2 s. and four blue harrateen bed curtains, value 6 d. the property of Henry Lawless , the said goods being in a certain lodging, let by contract to the said Robert , Nov. 30 . ++
Elizabeth Lawless . The prisoner came to take a lodging at my house for himself and his wife; he took a two pair of stairs room at 2 s. 6 d. per week; his wife and he lived there two or three months; I missed a brass candlestick out of the room; I never saw it any more; I desired to see the room, but they would not let me; at last I got into the room and missed the things mentioned in the indictment; when he was taken up, I searched the room but found none of the things; when he was before the Justice he confessed he took them. I myself wash the linen, so that it could not be sent out to a washerwoman; they always locked the door that none of the other lodgers could get into their room.
John Porter . I was before the Justice when the prisoner was brought there; there came a serjeant to his character; the Justice asked him what he had to say to the charge, and he said he was guilty of the whole.
Guilty . B .
William Freeman . I was stopt by the prisoner between Catherine-street end and Exeter-change , at two in the morning of the 14th of this month; I was on the box of a coach coming home: he was a-foot; he catched hold of the reins and gave the horses a jerk, and had like to have catched them over the splinter bar, and then he came up to me and said, sir, your money! and again, sir, your money directly! I stepped on the splinter bar and he run away; I pursued him, and cried stop thief! and another coachman stopt him. I never lost sight of him. When I took him, he held up his hands and said look at my hands.
Q. What was the meaning of that?
Freeman. I do not know; I brought him facing the coach, and delivered him to the watchman, who took him to the watch-house; I drove my coach to the watch-house, and we searched him, and he had this knife open in his waistcoat pocket; (producing a clasp knife.)
Q. How far was the prosecutor from the prisoner?
Winsor. About twenty yards; on his crying stop thief, I took him and carried him to the watch-house; there I searched him and found that knife upon him.
Q. Are you sure the man you took to the watch-house was the man the prisoner was pursuing?
I was very much in liquor; I was crossing by the coach; I bid the coachman stop; he run the pole against my side. I had no knife or any such thing; I am a hard working man.
For the Prisoner.
- Dove. I am a smith: I know the prisoner; he is a smith ; I have known him four or five years; he is just and honest; he lodged with me a twelve-month.
Q. from the Jury to Winsor. What did the prisoner say when you stopt him?
Winsor. He said don't stop me, you will get no credit by it.
Guilty . T .
321, 322. (M.) JOHN WHITEHEAD and JOHN EADES were indicted for stealing a smelling bottle with an ivory case, value 3 s. an ivory tooth-pick case, value 3 s. and three paper cases, value 2 s. the property of Joseph Hall , Jan. 21 . ~
Richard Bond . On the 21st of January we had an information of a robbery in the Five Fields, Chelsea; upon which I went to search some houses at Westminster; I took the person robbed with me, and two other persons, at the door of the Nag's Head, which is a bad house, and which I had some suspicion of as a place of resort for bad people; I went into Tothil-street; I found Whitehead and the evidence at the door; Whitehead appeared to be in a good deal of confusion; upon that I took more particular notice of him; I observed him put something into his breeches pocket; having a strong suspicion of him I took hold of both his hands and held him fast, and desired the other two persons that went with me to secure the other person and Jordain the evidence; I took him into the Nag's Head; on searching him I found a small bottle in his breeches pocket; (Mrs. Hall deposes to it.)
Henry Jordain , the accomplice. Whitehead and I went from the Nag's Head in January, the latter end; we went together into the street; there we met Eades the other prisoner; we stopt at the persumer's, the corner of Beaufort Buildings; at first we looked in and passed by; then Whitehead and I returned, and Whitehead took a knife and said I fancy there is some buckles or something within this pane of glass, and with his knife cracked the glass; but there was nothing there; upon that with the knife, he broke the shew glass, and he took out the things, and he gave them to me as he took them out at that time; Eades was not there, he was at 20 yards distance, and did not know what we were about.
Q. Was he set there as a spy or watch, to give you an item if there was any danger to get away?
Jordain. No, he knew nothing of what we were about.
I received these things of Jordain the evidence. I was coming down the Strand at the time; Jordain's pockets were so ragged he could not keep them himself, so he gave the bottle to me.
I was going towards Temple Bar in order to visit my brother; after I had seen my brother I was going on towards Westminster; in my way home, in the Strand, I met Whitehead and Jordain together; they desired me to go on a little further and they would come to me; I did so; they overtook me soon after; they desired me to stop and they came back to me and gave me the thing found in my pocket.
Both guilty .
Both acquitted .
325. (M) RICHARD KING was indicted for stealing thirty glass bottles, value 5 s. thirteen quarts of Madeira wine, value 30 s. thirteen quarts of Port wine, value 28 s. one quart of white Port wine, value 1 s. 6 d. one quart of Lisbon wine, value 1 s. 6 d. and one pint of Hungary wine, value 3 s. the property of Robert Ireland , Jan. 1st . ++
(The witnesses were examined apart at the request of the prisoner.)
Robert Ireland . The prisoner is a cellar-man to me; I had a good opinion of him, and entertained not the least suspicion till lately; he has been my cellar-man near three years; he has the charge of all my vaults, consequently access to all my wine; I hired him as a single man, and not till very lately discovered that he was otherwise. I had information, which led me to a suspicion of him; I went to Sir John Fielding 's, he granted me a search warrant; I took a constable and went to the prisoner's lodgings; I told him my suspicion of him; we proceeded to search; the lodgings were concealed from me as well as his being a married man, for I thought he always lodged in my house as other servants have done; when we searched we found a basket with six or seven bottles of Madeira wine; we found some white Port wine, some Lisbon, some Sherry, and a pint of Hungary wine; I questioned him about it; he said it was wine he had drawn off of the lees; I tasted the wine, and discovered it could not be bag wine as he had said; I reproached him with it; he begged my pardon, and confessed he had took the white Port wine, the Madeira wine, and the Lisbon; he spoke of having been employed by other persons, and Lord Hinchinbrooke in particular, to draw off bottles of wine for him, and that this was wine that he got as foul wine in the bottom of vessels, and in that way he got at the wine; after I had tasted the wine, I discovered it had not the taste of bag wine; it is agreed to be easy to discover wine that has been drawn off the dregs and fined through a bag from other wine.
- Hutchinson. I am a constable: I went with Mr. Ireland to search the lodgings of the prisoner; we went up stairs; in a room behind where we found the wine, we found some bottles in some baskets; we laid them on the bed; then three dozen and a half of wine; there were two casks, a large and a little one; there was a bottle of white Port wine, and there were lees in the cask; the prisoner confessed upon the question put to him by Mr. Ireland; he confessed as to four or five bottles of wine: the manner was, one bottle
Q. Did you ever know that the prisoner was employed in drawing the lees of wines through bags?
The prisoner said nothing in his defence.
For the Prisoner.
Mr. Baldwin. I am a baker: I know the prisoner well; I have known him some time; he always bore a good character; I have employed him at five or six different times to draw off two hogsheads of Madeira; he did not fine them at my house, but carried them away and fined them.
Q. Is it easy to distinguish the taste of wine drawn from the dregs through bags?
Baldwin. I am ignorant of the matter.
A Witness. I have known the prisoner two years: I assisted him to remove a cask of red wine from his former lodging; the cask might contain about four or five gallons; it was red Port.
- Burgess. I have known him twelve years; he has bore a good character.
- Wood. I know the prisoner; he has bought wine vessels in which were the dregs of wine; he bought a vessel of Lord Hinchinbrooke's butler: it was port wine.
Guilty . T .
326. (M.) GEORGE WHICHCOTE was indicted, for that he on the king's highway, on William Newman did make an assault, purting him in corporal fear and danger of his life, and stealing from his person a silver watch, value 40 s. and 3 s. in money numbered , the property of the said William, Jan. 16 . +
Q. Do you know the prisoner at the bar?
Newman. I believe I do.
Q. Are not you positive you know him?
Newman. I am positive within my own breast that he was the man that robbed me on Saturday, the 16th of January, between the hours of seven and eight in the evening. I was going to Hampstead in the Hampstead stage, and just before I came to the halfway house, between seven and eight in the evening, I was robbed.
Q. Was there any moon?
Newman. No, but there was what they call the northern lights, which made it very light at that time.
Q. Was you the only person in the coach?
Newman. No; there were two more; he was dressed in a great coat and a flouched hat, when he came up to the coach; he swore many reprobate oaths, and said he would blow my brains out, if I did not give him my money; I gave him some silver and halfpence; I cannot tell exactly to what amount; he said he was sure I had something else; he got off his horse and pulled me out of the coach; he unbuttoned my coat and searched me; he turned my pockets inside out; he took a handkerchief out of my coat pocket; he said I had something else, and then he took the watch from me: there was a coach came up, and he made me go into the coach again directly.
Q. Had he a pistol?
Q. Was it presented to you or to the others in the coach?
Newman. To me.
Q. This must have took up a considerable time?
Newman. It was a good while.
Q. How long?
Newman. I suppose about the space of ten minutes in all.
Q. You are very certain the prisoner is the person?
Q. How soon after did you see him?
Newman. We went and gave information on the Sunday morning; we were robbed on the Saturday.
Q. When was he taken up?
Newman. On Monday, at a house of ill same, that they call Private Thornton's, under the Piazza, Covent-garden.
Q. Was you by when he was taken up?
Q. Are you sure it was past seven o'clock?
Q. You was in the Hampstead stage?
Q. What time did you set off from London?
Newman. I do not know: I am sure it was then between seven and eight, because directly after I went to the Half-way House; it was then near upon eight.
Q. How much did it want of it?
Newman. Near ten minutes I think.
Q. You looked at the clock for the purpose of knowing what was o'clock?
Q. It is pretty extraordinary you should not know then what it was o'clock?
Newman. I was frightened.
Q. Was you so frightened, that after the robbery was over, when you went to look what it was o'clock, tho' you went for the purpose you could not recollect? I suppose you was terrified and so did not take such particular notice as you otherwise would have done: which side of the coach did the man come on that robbed you?
Newman. Upon the left hand side.
Q. Had he any thing over his face?
Newman. He had a crape over his face.
Q. How came you not to mention that?
Court. I understood him he could see his face and his clothes.
Newman. There was a crape at first; I saw him afterwards; the crape flew up as he pulled me out against him; it was shoved up with his hand all the time till he went away.
Q. How long might the crape continue so?
Newman. About two or three minutes.
Q. Was the crape up when he pulled you out of the coach?
Newman. No, it was over his face; by pulling me out, I tumbled against him, like; so with that I fancy it rumpled it or something; he took his hand and shoved it up before ever he spoke, and it continued up all the time I was out of the coach.
Q. from the Jury. Was the crape put up under his hat?
Newman. It was shoved up to his forehead.
Q. from the prisoner's Counsel. Was it shoved up above his forehead?
Newman. A little above his eyes; I could see some part of his forehead just above his eyes.
Q. When he pulled you out of the coach I suppose you could not but be pretty much frightened, as you was so frightened afterwards?
Newman. I was not so much frightened then as I was afterwards; I was pretty resolute.
Newman. I said it was light.
Newman. No; I said it was light.
Q. How was the man dressed?
Newman. He had a stouched hat, a loose great coat on, and new boots.
Q. What sort of a horse had he?
Newman. A brown or chesnut.
Q. Had he more pistols than one?
Newman. He had something appeared like three pistols lashed to his breast.
Q. Do you know which way he went?
Newman. Towards London.
Q. Had he any girdle to fasten these pistols in, or we re they tucked in his bosom?
Newman. A girdle.
Q. Was it a light or dark chesnut?
Newman. It by that light appeared dark.
Q. Then it was not light enough to distinguish the colour of the horse clearly?
Newman. It was a dark chesnut or a brown?
Jury. I suppose you took more notice of the man than the horse.
Q. Did you ever mention that it was a bay horse?
Newman. A bay or a brown or chesnut horse.
Newman. No; I mentioned he was a middle sized man, rather short.
Q. He did not pull them out?
Parsons. No, he swore he would go into the coach to them, if they did not deliver instantly. After he had robb'd him, he saw Mr. Newman get into the coach, he bid me drive on; he then went behind the coach and mounted his horse: another coach was coming from Hampstead; I asked him if he would shut the door, or give me leave to do it; he bid me shut it and rode off.
Q. You continued on the coach-box all the time?
Q. Did you turn round to see him?
Parsons. I did.
Q. His back was towards you then?
Parsons. No, his face was towards me, but I could not distinguish his face.
Q. Which way did he come to you?
Parsons. He came from behind the coach, as from London; after he quitted his horse, his face was towards me; when he turned round on horseback, his face was from me; when he pulled Newman out, it was towards me.
Q. You could not distinguish his features?
Parsons. No, but his voice was very remarkable?
Q. What could you distinguish of his face, when he came up?
Parsons. His hat being stap'd before, he look'd rather swarthy, and appeared to me to have a very long nose.
Q. Then there was nothing else to prevent your seeing his face, but the slap of his hat?
Parsons. No, not then.
Q. You could not distinguish his face was swarthy, and he had a long nose, when he was demanding the money from the coach?
Parsons. Yes. And I plainly saw while he was demanding the money, and when he pulled Newman out, and threw back his great coat; then I saw three pistols: I was not so near to distinguish his face, when pulling Newman out of the coach but before; this observation I made, when first he came up to me.
Q. The pistols were in a belt, or something of that kind?
Parsons. Yes, as near as I could observe.
Q. Do you believe that to be the man?
Parsons. I really do believe it.
Q. By what you saw of his face at first?
Parsons. Yes, and more particularly his voice; he came close up to the side of the box.
Q. What sort of a night was it?
Parsons. Very light in the air, and particularly star light; the light faced me.
Q. Did you drive the Hampstead stage constantly?
Parsons. Yes, for some years; but have not since this thing.
Q. What time did you set out from London, at this time?
Parsons. A little after 7 o'clock, 5 or 6 minutes, or it might be something more, when I set out from the Blue Posts in Tottenham-court-road.
Q. What was the colour of the horse?
Parsons. Either a brown, bay or chesnut; rather a dark one, or a brown bay.
Q. How was he dress'd?
Parsons. Rather in darkish cloaths; I cannot say particularly.
Q. A great coat on?
Q. Boots on?
Parsons. Yes, and seemingly a new saddle and bridle.
Q. What sort of a hat?
Parsons. A plain hat.
Q. I think your coach has been robb'd since?
Parsons. I did not drive that.
Q. You have had some conversation with the coachman since?
Parsons. I have talked with him, but not about the robbery.
Q. And you never said you believed it to be the same highwayman, that robb'd both coaches?
Parsons. I don't know that I mentioned it to any body particularly.
Q. You have had no conversation with the other coachman?
Parsons. Not particularly concerning that.
Q. You did not say so?
Parsons. Not knowing that it was.
Q. But you believed it was the same person; you have heard a description of the person that robbed the coach the second time?
Parsons. Not particularly.
Q. Have not you heard them say, that the person that robbed the other coach was very much like Mr. Whichcote?
Parsons. I heard he swore in that manner, and used much the same language.
Q. And robbed at the same place?
Parsons. I heard it was somewhere not far from it.
Q. When was that second robbery?
Parsons. I do not know; I did not hear of it for some days after.
Q. It was since this robbery, that the other coach was robbed?
Q. How long did you drive this coach?
Parsons. Six or seven years.
Q. How came you to leave it off upon this occasion?
Parsons. I drove for a man that was ill; I had been ill before myself; the man came to work again; he took the coach on the Monday following.
Esther Newman . I am wife of the prosecutor; I was in the coach; I was going up to Hampstead in the coach, between seven and eight, between the Crown and the Half-way House; a gentleman rode up to the coach and bid the coachman stop; the coachman did not hear him directly, upon which he rode close up to the coachman, and then he came to the coach door and demanded his money and watch; at the same time he swore a very great oath and demanded the ladies money and mine, and told us he would otherwise blow our brains out; then Miss Davis gave him her money; he did not take mine (I had it in my hand) nor never asked me for it; he was not satisfied with the money my husband gave him, but said he had got a watch; he swore a great oath and told him he should come out of the coach; he dragged him out and felt in his pockets; I saw him search his pockets: another coach came up, and then he made him get into the coach again. My husband went out at the Half-way House.
Q. Could you distinguish his face?
Newman. Not till he was rifling his pockets.
Q. He was close with his face to the coach?
Newman. Yes; but I sat on the further side of the coach, which prevented me seeing so much; I could see but very little of his face; when he pulled my husband out of the coach I went nearer towards that side, and saw there was something of a black crape up, and that he he had got a very long nose; that was all I could observe; the crape was upon his forehead.
Q. By merely seeing his nose you could not form a judgment of his person?
Newman. No; I thought him a small person: but his voice was so remarkable that I thought I should know it again. I was not so near as Miss Davis and my husband.
Q. You have heard the time and place mentioned by the witnesses, what time was it?
Davis. Between seven and eight o'clock.
Q. Did you see enough of this gentleman's face to know him?
Davis. I cannot say any thing at all about his face.
Q. You sat next to him when he came up to the coach?
Davis. I sat on one side and Mr. Newman on the other; I sat opposite Mr. Newman.
Q. As near to the door as Mr. Newman?
Q. You did not when he came to the door distinguish enough of his face to know him?
Davis. No; it terrified me so that I could not observe; his hat was slouched.
Q. You could not discover much of his face?
Q. You cannot recollect a feature?
Q. Did you swear to his voice then?
Q. But you was in such a fright that you could not remember a feature of his face?
Davis. His hat was slouched, and I was
Q. Did you take any notice of him when rifling Mr. Newman's pocket?
Davis. No farther notice than that he had a large great coat on.
Q. Did Mr. Newman sit forwards or backwards?
Q. When he pulled him out of the coach did he go nearer to the coachman or the other way?
Davis. Rather towards the back part of the coach.
Q. Then as you sat backwards you must see him plainer; then could you judge much of his stature on horseback?
Davis. I saw him when attacking Mr. Newman, when he was off his horse.
Q. What size man?
Davis. Much the size, as near as I can guess, as Mr. Whichcote appears to be; but having a great coat on he appeared to be bigger than Mr. Whichcote; his great coat was loose.
Q. Do you live at Hampstead?
Davis. No, in town.
Davis. In Glanvile-street, Oxford-road.
Q. Do you follow any business?
Davis. Yes, a milliner.
Q. Do you keep a shop?
Davis. No, I am a chamber milliner.
Davis. No. 11.
Q. You do not keep any shop?
Davis. No, I am a chamber milliner.
Q. Was you going to Mr. Newman's?
Davis. No, on a visit to one Mr. Norton.
Q. You say he swore.
Davis. Very violent; the first word was a violent oath and demanded the money with the pistol in his hand.
Q. In a violent manner?
Q. That is, not in a man's natural tone of voice when he is in a passion?
Davis. I heard him swear then violently and since violently.
Davis. No; he was about being discharged, but his witnesses varied so much.
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I Desire my defence may be left to my Counsel.
Counsel for the prisoner. My Lord we shall trace Mr. Whichcote from four o'clock that day till nine at night.
Q. Do you remember hearing of the robbery of the Hampstead stage coach?
Q. When did you first hear of it?
Moule. On Monday.
Moule. Not till the Wednesday following.
Q. That is the public day for hearing I believe.
Q. Did you see Mr. Whichcote on the Saturday the day the robbery was committed?
Moule. Yes, the 16th of January, the Saturday; he came into my house about a quarter after three in the afternoon; he staid till within about five minutes before eight.
Q. Are you particular to your time?
Moule. Yes: I had change for sixteen guineas to carry over to a taylor's shop, for the journeymen taylors working for Mr. Crossier; I carry over change for them; we trust them all the week: on Saturday night I cast up their score and take their money as their master pays them.
Q. How was Mr. Whichcote dressed?
Moule. In a brown coat, white buttons, and a silver laced hat.
Q. Had he any great coat?
Moule. No, he had neither great coat nor boots; that is the coat he has on now; that is the dress as near as I can see; I am positive it is, and the same hat *.
* A silver laced hat.
Q. Had he any thing in his hand?
Moule. Not when he came in; he called for a pot of beer and a bit of bread and cheese; he had it.
Q. Had he any thing when he went away?
Moule. Yes; about half after seven he asked me for a bit of stick to walk with; he complained he had been walking till he was tired; I had never a bit of stick; there was a young man, his name is Robert Edwards , a coach-maker's man, went over and got him a little piece of ash.
Q. What time was that?
Moule. About half after seven or a little better I believe.
Q. When you went out of the house to these
Moule. No; he went out to the door before me; before I went to the shop I shook hands with him, and saw him go down the street; I came back and said I had staid rather too late, the taylors would use me ill for staying so long; there was a young man there that I asked to stay and assist my servant maid if any body wanted beer; my wife was ill a bed; I looked at the clock and it wanted about five minutes of eight.
Q. What is the common time that they leave off work?
Moule. Sometimes by seven, sometimes it is eight.
Q. Of other nights?
Moule. Sometimes by seven, sometimes half after seven; if they have work to finish they wait till the work is done.
Q. Do you go over without being sent for at any settled time, or do they send for you?
Moule. I have no fixed time, sometimes I go a little before eight; half after seven is my general time to go over; if they have business sometimes they work till ten.
Jury. Is seven the usual hour of leaving off if they are not in a hurry?
Moule. Yes, thereabouts; I generally go over about half after seven; I should not have staid so late if I had not been detained by the captain; the men were waiting for me.
Q. Do you mean the prisoner when you say the Captain?
Q. How long have you known him?
Moule. Pretty near five years.
Q. Has he used your house?
Moule. I believe in the course of five years he may have been at my house twenty times.
Jury. You have not lived there long, have you?
Moule. Five years last Michaelmas.
Q. Did he dine at your house that day?
Moule. He only eat a piece of bread and cheese when he came in.
Q. You said when he asked for the stick he said he had been tired of walking, had he been out of your house from half after three till that time?
Moule. He had never been out farther than to the door very likely, to make water.
Q. Was you with him all the time?
Moule. I was.
Q. Had he nothing in your house but potter that day?
Moule. No, he drank nothing else.
Q. Are you in service?
Q. Where did you live on the 16th of January?
Hutchinson. With Miss Pyke; lady Essingham laid down her equipage, so I went to live with Miss Pyke.
Q. Do you remember being at Mr. Moule's the 16th of January?
Hutchinson. Yes, I was in the house when Mr. Whichcote came in; I stayed till five, then I went away; I returned at six and staid in the house till after Mr. Whichcote was gone.
Q. Have you any particular reason for knowing the time?
Hutchinson. My coach was ordered at half after eight, I staid there till eight; then I lighted my candle and went out; my coach stands close to the house; I always light my candle there.
Q. How long do you think Mr. Whichcote went away before you?
Hutchinson. Five minutes.
Q. How was he dressed?
Hutchinson. A brown coat with white buttons.
Q. Any boots or great coat?
Hutchinson. No, he had a laced hat.
Q. How long have you lived with Miss Pyke?
Hutchinson. I went there as soon as I left lady Essingham; Miss Pyke waited for me.
Q. How long have you lived with her?
Hutchinson. Three years and three months.
Q. Had you known Mr. Whichcote before that time?
Hutchinson. No; nor never saw him since till I saw him to day.
Q. How came you to take so much notice of him that day?
Hutchinson. He asked me to drink with him, and talked with me about horses.
Q. Was you at Mr. Moule's house on the 16th of January?
Q. What time did you go there?
Edwards. Half after four; it was just darkish; I could not see.
Q. Who do you work with?
Edwards. Mr. Bonnick in the Hay-market.
Q. How long did he stay there?
Walker. Till near eight.
Q. Did you see Mr. Whichcote go away?
Walker. Yes; he went about five minutes before eight.
Q. Had he any stick?
Walker. I gave him a stick myself; he asked me for a stick; I said I had never a one; then he said give me a broom stick; I told him I would give him a rough stick; I went home and cut him a piece off a slab of a phaeton pole, and told him if he could walk with it he was welcome to it, this is the stick (producing it.)
Q. Where was he going then?
Walker. He was talking of going to Bow-street Covent-garden.
Q. How long have you worked at this coach-maker's?
Walker. Six years last Christmas.
Q. Was you in company with Mr. Whichcote?
Walker. Yes; I was drinking with him.
Q. Did you know him before?
Walker. Yes; I have known him two or three years.
Q. Have you often seen him?
Walker. Not for a year before this happened, or a year and a half.
Q. How was he dressed?
Walker. In a brown coat and white buttons.
Q. Had he a great coat or boots?
Walker. No; he had a silver laced hat flapped before, and a band round it, the same hat he has now.
Q. What business are you?
Greville. A coachmaker: I worked at that time with Mr. Bonnick; I served my time with him and worked a twelve-month after I was out of my time with him.
Q. Do you recollect being at Mr. Moule's on the 16th of January?
Greville. Yes, very well.
Q. Do you recollect Mr. Whichcote being there?
Q. What time did you come into the Black Bull?
Greville. At five o'clock. I staid till past nine.
Q. What time did Mr. Whichcote go away from that house?
Greville. Within five minutes of eight.
Q. Are you positive to the time?
Q. Have you any reason to know the time?
Greville. I had two places to go to; one about seven the other about eight.
Q. Did you go to them?
Greville. I went to one, I went to that at seven and staid till past nine before I went to the other; I looked at the clock just before I went out.
Q. Do you recollect how Mr. Whichcote was dressed that day?
Greville. As near as I can recollect he had the same dress he has now.
Q. No great coat or boots?
Q. And that hat he has now?
Q. Where did you go when you went out at seven?
Greville. To Coventry-street to receive some money; I staid about a quarter of an hour.
Q. You was back in a quarter of an hour?
Q. Was the prisoner there when you returned?
Greville. He was.
Q. Was you in company with him?
Greville. I drank with him part of six or seven pots of beer from five till within five minutes of eight in his company.
Q. Had you known him before that time?
Greville. I never saw him before.
Q. Who was your particular acquaintance in that company?
Greville. I was acquainted with this young man; we three, and another that is at the door, were all drinking together.
Q. The prisoner was not your acquaintance?
Greville. No; he was acquainted with a man that keeps accompts for my master, Mr. Tatam, that is out at the door, he was there at the time.
Q. Do you know Mr. Moule?
Tatum. Yes; very well.
Q. Was you at his house on Saturday the 16th of January?
Q. Did you see Mr. Whichcote there?
Tatum. I did.
Q. What time did you leave the house?
Tatum. Between seven and eight; I cannot be
Court. Was you in company with them too?
Tatum. Yes, from half after four.
Q. What room was you in, a private room?
Tatum. No; the publick tap-room.
Q. You knew him before?
Q. How long have you known him?
Tatum. About two years.
Q. Was you particularly acquainted with him?
Tatum. No farther than he was a prisoner in the King's Bench when I was there; I had not seen him for three months, when I went into this house by accident; I had been settling my master Bonnet's books, the coachmaker, for five weeks; he heard me call for a pint of beer and insisted on my drinking with him; he turned my pint of beer into his pot.
Q. Was it a quarter after seven, or how?
Tatum. It was nearer eight I am sure than seven; I believe we drank share of eight or nine pots of beer.
Q. Do you remember Saturday the 16th of January seeing Mr. Whichcote at any place and at what time?
Day. I never saw the gentleman but once before, the last was Saturday night.
Q. Did you see him the night the coach was robbed? you know the time do you?
Day. Yes; I saw him that night at the Blue Bear in Long Acre.
Q. What time of night was it?
Day. I did not look at the clock; I have generally done about eight, I cannot ascertain to a quarter of an hour; I remember seeing him with two men: I was then paying my porters; I saw him there with a great stick in his hand (he is shewn the stick;) it was that sort of stick.
Q. Do you believe that to be the stick?
Day. I do.
Q. Can you say whether it was before eight or after?
Day. It could not be above ten minutes either way; if any thing, I rather think it was over eight, because I spoke to our people that were in the box with me, that were sitting down and having a tankard of beer.
Q. Who left the house first, you or he?
Day. He. I will tell you the way I came to take notice of him that night: the man of the Blue Bear was gone out; he was fitting along with two young men in another box; Mr. Whichcote was in liquor; after he had drank his pot of beer, as I was talking to our people at the fire, he took me for the landlord; he came up and said, well, landlord, I have no halfpence or money, will you trust me the beer? I said I would; he said I will call again and have something better next time and went out.
Q. He appeared to be in liquor, did he?
Q. How long was it before he went out after you came in?
Day. I think about ten minutes, I will not trust my memory as far as that.
Q. Do you recollect Mr. Whichcote's coming to your house on the 16th of January?
Q. What time did he come in?
Walker. Between eight and nine o'clock.
Q. Had he any liquor?
Walker. A Madeira Negus.
Q. Did he pay for it?
Walker. He did not.
Q. How long did he stay in your house?
Walker. I cannot tell.
Q. Do you recollect how he was dressed?
Walker. He had neither great coat nor boots on; he had the same clothes he has on now and a silver laced hat.
Q. Do you remember a piece of wood he brought in his hand?
Walker. Yes; that is the piece of wood I believe.
Jury. There is no occasion I believe to give the Court any more trouble.
Court. The prosecutor has had no person to confirm him in one circumstance: the coachman never said, a word of a crape over his face, the prosecutor says he had the crape on when he came to the coach all the rest have not said a word of the crape, but it is impossible that evidence can weigh against this.
Counsel for the prisoner. We have more witnesses.
Jury. There is no occasion to call them.
No evidence was given.
327. (M.) JOSEPH PIDDOCK , gunsmith , was indicted for that he not being a person employed in or for the Mint, in the Tower of London, and not being lawfully authorised by the Lord High Treasurer of Great Britain, or the Lords Commissioners of the Treasury, feloniously and traiterously had in his custody and possession, an engine for the marking of money round the edges, as in his Majesty's Mint, without lawful authority or sufficient excuse , Feb. 3 d . ||
John Bellamore . I was at Justice Sherwood's last Saturday was three weeks: a man named Groves laid an information that there was a man would sell bad money; he desired me, and the servant belonging to New Prison, to go with Jonathan Wright and another man; I went to the White Lion in Red Lion-street, Whitechapel, and he came.
Q. Give an account of that part of the story where the magistrate gave a search warrant to go to his house: did you search the house?
Q. Who searched the house?
Q. Had you directions to search the prisoner's house?
Macknabb. Yes; on Saturday night the 30th of last month.
Q. What did you find there?
( Macknabb produces several things.)
Q. Where is his house?
Macknabb. At Mill-yard in the parish of Whitechapel; I found the prisoner there too; he was sitting by the fire with a child on his knee.
Mr. Sage. I am a moneyer at the Tower; I saw these instruments before at Justice Sherwood's.
Q. What do you call them?
Sage. I do not know what particular name to call them by.
Q. What is the use of them?
Sage. For edging of money.
Q. According to your skill are they instruments fit for the purpose of edging of money? do you know any use for these things but that of edging of money?
Sage. None at all.
Q. to Macknabb. Where did you find them?
Macknabb. In the fore garret; I searched the man; he had two good guineas about him and some half crown pieces; all good money as far as I saw; there was a thing to clean dies called a scratch brush to clean it out; here is a 5 s. 3 d. I believe it to be a very bad one.
Q. Is there any edge to it?
Q. Is that an edge resembling a 5 s. 3 d. coined in the Mint?
Q. What did you do with these instruments when you got them there?
Macknabb. I carried them to Mr. Sherwood's; I produced them there and have had them ever since.
Q. At what house did you say you went to search?
Macknabb. No. 3; I cannot take upon me to say whether it is the gentleman's house.
Q. Because I believe it was taken by the Court that it was his house.
Macknabb. I cannot say that; I saw him sitting with a child on his knee.
Q. Pray where did you find these things?
Macknabb. Up stairs in the fore garret: part of them, the two brass things, and the 5 s. 3 d. he had four half crowns, a crown piece and two guineas, very good money as far as I understood.
Q. He had no bad money whatever about him?
Macknabb. None at all.
Counsel for the Crown. What was in the fore garret besides these things?
Macknabb. Some others.
Q. Do you remember at any time going to the prisoner's house?
Q. Where did you find them?
Forrest. In the fore garret. (A large quantity of things produced.)
Q. Were these the other things you found there?
Mr. Sage. I looked over these things at Justice Sherwood's; I saw nothing there but what the melters use in general, nothing in the coining way at all; there is mould and sand, pearl ashes
Q. Do you mean to be understood that though you do not use them in coining they are not for the purpose of coining, or that they cannot be used for coining?
Sage. There is nothing there I should conceive that can be used for coining.
Court. Do you mean to use the term coining as in contradistinction to melting, and the whole process, or how?
Sage. This is proper to melt the gold to reduce it in the kind of way to impress it, which is a previous preparation.
Counsel for the prisoner. You mean to say there is nothing there particularly adapted for coining more than other melting?
Q. Was you in the house with Macknabb?
Q. Were these things locked up particularly?
Q. They were open then?
Sage. Yes; all laid about.
Q. Like lumber?
Sage. When the officer went up into the garret the charcoal was not quite out in one of the furnaces.
Counsel for the Crown. I think you said the prisoner was there at the time?
Sage. Yes; he was with the officer all about the house.
Q. What did he say about its being his house?
Sage. First he said the front part of the house was his; afterwards he said the house was his, only part of it belonged to a lodger that was not at home; there was a bed in the house; we went all over his apartments.
Q. Were these things found in one of his apartments?
Q. Was there any bed in this garret where these things were found?
Sage. No, no bed at all.
Counsel for the Crown. Was there any other thing in the garret besides what is brought here?
Sage. There was a furnace in the cellar and one in the back garret.
Q. You say the coals were hardly out in a furnace, where was that?
Sage. In the garret where these things were taken from.
Q. Did the furnace in the cellar appear to be used lately?
Q. How long have you known the prisoner?
Grove. Above half a year.
Q. Where did you first become acquainted with him?
Grove. At the Horse and Leaping Bar, Whitechapel, a public house; I drank with him there.
Q. Where did he live?
Grove. I never knew where he lived.
Counsel for the Crown. A gentleman here has run this piece of money over the grove produced and it has made a milling on the edge.
Grove. I was desired to ask him how he sold his shillings.
Q. What led you to ask that question of the prisoner?
Grove. I lived with one Mr. Shurbut; he put the bad money off; I was sent to ask the question by one Harwood, how he sold his shillings; he said the best sort 27 s. for a guinea; I asked him if he could not make two for one; he said he could, but they would be of a worse metal and would not wear so long; I asked him if he would make me forty shillings worth of his shillings; he said he would against the Saturday night following, and he appointed me to meet him at the White Lion, in Red Lion-street; he said he had been very busy and had not quite finished them; that he had about a couple of hours work more to do to them, but if I would come in the morning I should have them, and he appointed nine on Sunday morning; I was to have forty shillings of his shillings, and to give him twenty good shillings for them; I met him on Sunday morning; he called me up into a chamber in the public house.
Q. When was that?
Grove. About the latter end of September last; there he gave them to me on condition if I put them off I was to pay for them, if not he was to have them again. He produced two half crown pieces, and said he sold them two for one, and two guineas, he said he sold them four for one; he said I might take them with me and try to put them off; I had not had the silver but two or three days before it turned colour.
Counsel. That was your own fault, he told you the money would not hold if you took beyond the sort of 27 s. for a pound.
Q. How did the guineas turn out?John Fielding 's; I told him I believed he would sell some money to any body I took with me; he appointed some of his men to go with me, and one Bellamore, in order to buy some of him; we went into this White Lion; the landlady of the house said he was not within, but she would send for him; she sent a little girl for him, and some time after he came.
Court. Where is the house you went to?
Grove. The White Lion in Red Lion-street, Whitechapel.
Q. Did you know where the prisoner lived?
Grove. No; I told one of Justice Sherwood's men I would send a little girl up to look for him, the landlady's daughter; she brought word he was not at home but they would send him; after some time he came; I told him I had an acquaintance out of the country that wanted a little of his goods; I asked him if he had got any whites.
Q. What do they call whites?
Grove. Shillings; he said he had not any; but he could make some against the Friday following; I asked him if he had any yellows, that was the gold; he said he had none with him.
Q. Did Bellamore hear this conversation?
Grove. Yes; he said he could make some against the Friday following; I asked him if he had any yellows; he said he had none with him, he would fetch them; he went, and in about three-quarters of an hour he returned; he called us into the parlour, and produced as many yellows as came to two guineas.
Q. How many came to two guineas?
Grove. At the rate of four for one; he said he would not sell under two guineas worth; I went to Justice Sherwood's; he sent a couple of guineas up; when we came up almost to that place Bellamore came out, and said he had made his escape from him; the reason we sent for the money was Bellamore said he had not so much money about him, but must send to his lodgings for it.
Q. Do you remember at any time going along with Grove to the prisoner?
Bellamore. Yes; last Saturday three weeks.
Q. How was you dressed?
Bellamore. I had this coat on that I have now, and another coat over it.
Q. Did you see the prisoner?
Bellamore. Grove sent for the prisoner.
Q. To what place?
Bellamore. The White Lion, in Red Lion-street, Whitechapel.
Q. Did you see the prisoner?
Q. Had you any conversation with him?
Bellamore. Yes; when I first went in Groves pulled his hat off to him, and said, how do you do sir? says he I thought you would not have come; he told Piddock I was his countryman, and asked him if he had got any whites; he said he had got none, they were hardly worth making; says he have you got any yellows, let us have some, the young man is going into the country; he said I have none, you shall have some in about half or three quarters of an hour.
Q. Did you talk about the price?
Bellamore. Yes; I was to have eight guineas for two.
Q. How much did you ask for?
Bellamore. He brought me two guineas worth. I was to have some five and three-pences; he would not let me have any without I was to have two guineas worth.
Q. What were they, guineas, half guineas or five and three-pences?
Bellamore. I believe there were a guinea or two among them; the rest were half guineas and five and three-pences.
Q. They were all sold at the rate of four for one?
Bellamore. Yes; then I said to Grove I have not got so much money about me, will you go down to the inn and fetch me two guineas; he went and took one of Mr. Pentelow's men with him, and took two guineas; after he was gone we staid and drank; I told him I would take twenty guineas next week for five; he told me he would make me twenty guineas, but he would not have me have too many at a time for fear they should wear out; I said I paid a great deal of money away, many hundred pounds in the country.
Q. You did this with a design to hook him, did not you?
Bellamore. I did. The woman of the house called him to go up stairs; I would not let him; I laid hold of him, and told him he must not
Q. Do you know when he was found again?
Bellamore. In about an hour afterwards.
Q. Do you know any thing farther?
Bellamore. No; they had the same prisoner at Justice Sherwood's. I went home with them.
Q. Was you present at the searching?
Q. How long have you known the prisoner there?
Jeffs. Upwards of three quarters of a year.
Q. Where did he live last Christmas and January?
Jeffs. I cannot say where he came from when he came to Mill-yard.
Q. How long did he live there?
Jeffs. Till last Christmas.
Q. Till he was taken up?
Jeffs. One Sanders took the house for his brother of Mr. Poole; I had the key left at my house.
Q. Where did the prisoner live?
Jeffs. At No. 3, Mill-yard.
Q. When did he leave the house?
Jeffs. He never left the house to my knowledge.
Q. He is in Newgate now; did he live there home to the time of his being taken up?
Q. Was he a lodger in the house or was it his house as you understood?
Jeffs. I took him to be the occupier?
Q. Had he any lodgers in the house?
Jeffs. Not that I know.
Q. What was you going to say of Sanders?
Jeffs. He was the man that took the house, and said he took it for his brother.
Court. Who came into it?
Jeffs. Piddock, and occupied the house.
Q. Who was the occupier of the house when it was searched?
As to this Groves he says he bought things of me; it is something very extraordinary that he should throw them away, why did he not bring them to the Court and bring something against me? as to Bellamore, I never saw him in my life or ever had any connections or dealings with him, nor with Groves any farther than buying a pound of tea or so of his master, and I can bring people into court to prove these things are not mine. I was not an inhabitant of the house but a lodger, and these things were not mine, and I hope I shall satisfy the Court and Jury it is so. Mr. Jeffs knows I am not the proprietor of it, that Mr. Sanders lived in the house and worked in it every day.
For the Prisoner.
Q. Are these your receipts (producing them)?
Q. To whom did you let that house?
Poole. Mr. Sanders.
Q. Did he occupy the house?
Poole. I suppose so, I do not know; he always came to my house and paid me the rent regularly.
Q. Did you ever go to the house and happen to know who lived in it?
Poole. I have been to the house several times and have always seen Mr. Sanders except once, then he was not at home.
Q. For what time, for the last three quarters of a year?
Q. Did you ever see the prisoner there?
Poole. I cannot recollect that ever I did.
Q. How long had you known Sanders before ever you let this house to him?
Poole. Not a day before.
Q. What rent is the house let at?
Poole. Sixteen pound a year beside the water rent.
Q. Would you let a house to a man without knowing any thing about him or for what use it was intended?
Poole. He told me he was a gun-smith, and he and his brother were to live together in the house.
Q. That was all the knowledge you had of him?
Q. And upon that small narration of Sanders did you let him the house?
Poole. Yes; if I recollect right I enquired his character and they told me he was an honest man; I believe I spoke to Mr. Jeff.
Poole. I have an agreement.
Q. But answer that first.
Poole. One is a mistake; I can refer to that only by the agreement which I have at home.
Q. Whether you frequently saw this Mr. Sanders at any other time by paying you rent?
Q. Do you know him again if you see him?
Q. Is that man at the bar the Sanders or Sanderson?
Q. Did you ever see him before?
Poole. I may have done it but I do not know.
Q. And whether Sanders or Sanderson lived in the house you do not know?
Poole. I have seen him in the house.
Q. I believe so, because there was a partner with him I believe, did he take it for himself or who?
Poole. For himself and his brother.
Q. Did he tell you the name of his brother?
Counsel for the prisoner. You say upon your oath that you let it to a Sanders by agreement, and received your rent so late as January last of Sanders?
Court. Where do you live?
Poole. In Queen-street, Cheapside.
Q. How many times did you go to this house after you let it?
Poole. After quarter day I believe.
Q. Did you go to collect the rent, or is it brought to you?
Poole. I went to collect the rent; the first time I went Sanders told me he would call upon me, and came and paid it at my house.
Q. Then the two last times he came to your house?
Poole. I went to his house to collect the money; he said it was not suitable to him then, and he called upon me.
Q. He came to you to pay it afterwards?
Q. Do you know No. 3. in Mill-yard?
Q. Whose house is it?
Eversley. Sanders's: it belonged to Mr. Poole.
Q. Did Sanders live there?
Eversley. He used to come backward and forwards there.
Counsel for the prisoner. What is become of him now?
Eversley. I do not know; I have not seen him this fortnight or three weeks.
Q. Did you ever see the prisoner at this No. 3. in Mill-yard?
Eversley. Yes; I have worked in the same shop with him.
Q. Did Sanders use to work with him there?
Q. What business is he?
Eversley. He went in the character of a silversmith.
Q. Where was his shop?
Eversley. Upon the same floor as ours was.
Q. What floor is that?
Eversley. The top floor.
Q. You worked in the garret?
Q. Which garret?
Eversley. The front garret.
Q. Did you ever see that thing before: I hope it won't frighten you?
Q. Who worked in the garret where these things were?
Eversley. Mr. Sanders.
Q. Then you have been in the back garret, where these things were frequently?
Eversley. I used to go backwards and forwards often.
Q. When did Sanders work there?
Eversley. I never saw him work there before in my life.
Q. Did you ever see it there before?
Q. Have you seen it used?
Eversley. I do not know any use of it; I have had it in my hand.
Q. Have you had this bit of old brass in your hand too?
Eversley. I do not know I have; I was going to break it up as a piece of old brass; the prisoner said it belonged to Mr. Sanders.
Q. How came that to be talked of?
Eversley. No otherwise than he said it belonged to him.
Q. Was that before or after you was about to break it up?
Q. And that hindered you from breaking it up?
Q. Where did you see it?
Eversley. In a basket of old tools in Sanders's shop.
Q. The prisoner you called your master?
Eversley. No; I worked there for the government.
Q. What for the Mint?
Eversley. No, in the gun trade.
Q. These things are not used for the government?
Q. You had nothing to do with Sanders's trade?
Q. No concern with Sanders?
Q. Nor the prisoner?
Eversley. No; he helped me in the gun trade.
Q. Since you had nothing to do in Sanders's shop, and this tool was found there, how came you to think of taking this tool up and breaking it up or destroying it?
Eversley. I had no business there.
Q. You had no business there?
Eversley. I did not know it was of any use.
Q. Use or not use what business had you to go into Sanders's shop to take up this thing; this bit of old brass as we will imagine it to be; what business had you to go into his shop and break up this piece of old brass?
Eversley. I did not know it would be any injury to him.
Q. What did he tell you it was?
Eversley. He did not tell me that it was of any use, only he said it belonged to him.
Q. Why you did not want to be informed of that, you knew it was in Sanders's shop; did not you know all that was in the shop was Sanders's, and you had nothing to do with it; it was in Sanders's shop, was it not?
Q. Did you take it up imagining it not to be Sanders's?
Eversley. I did not think it would be of any hurt; I did not think it would be of any great injury.
Q. You did think it to be Sanders's when you meant to break it up?
Q. Thinking it to be Sanders's, and taking it out of Sanders's shop, you did think to break it up, and why did not you break it up, why because you was told then just as much as you knew before, and neither more or less, that it was Sanders's: now scratch your head and at it again, tell me?
Eversley. I cannot tell you any more than I did tell.
Q. You understood it to be Sanders's and meant to break it up, and afterwards did not break it up because you understood it to be Sanders's?
Eversley. I brought it in to him and he told me it was Sanders's.
Q. Why did not you break it up?
Eversley. Because he said it was Sanders's.
Q. Cannot you find a use for it?
Q. I could tell you a use but it would cost you your neck.
Eversley. I do not desire to make that use of it.
Counsel for the prisoner. You say upon your oath Sanders worked in the back garret, and the prisoner and you in the fore garret, and these things here belonged to Sanders, and you did not work in that garret, and that these and the other things are the property of Sanders who worked as a silver-smith.
Q. Were the prisoner and you in full business there?
Eversley. Yes; I worked for the office of ordnance seventeen years.
Q. And the prisoner worked in the fore garret with you?
Counsel for the Crown. What is become of Sanders?
Eversley. I do not know.
Court. How long have you worked in this house?
Eversley. Ever since last Michaelmas.
Q. Who was in the occupation of the house when you first came to work there?
Eversley. Sanders belonged to the house.
Q. Was the prisoner there before you came, or did he come with you, or after you?
Eversley. He was there when I came.
Q. Then you found him and Sanders there both?
Q. How came you to come there, did you lodge there?
Q. What room did you lodge in?
Eversley. In the back chamber.
Q. What room did the prisoner lodge in?
Eversley. Not in the house at all.
Q. What other person did lodge in the house?
Eversley. No body else.
Q. Who is Sanders's brother?
Eversley. Sanders's brother.
Q. Do you know him?
Q. Are you any relation of him?
Q. Do you know any such person as his brother?
Q. Are you sure respecting the piece of brass where you first saw it?
Eversley. In the back room.
Q. Was Sanders in the room when you first saw it or not?
Q. What he used to leave his room door open to go in and out when you pleased?
Q. And yet you never saw him work in your life?
Counsel for the Crown. Where do you live?
Eversley. I lodge at the house.
Q. Do you lodge there now?
Eversley. I go backwards and forwards.
Q. Where do you live?
Eversley. I lodge there.
Q. When did you lie there last?
Eversley. Last night.
Q. Who is your landlord?
Eversley. Why the prisoner at the bar; he rented two rooms and let me one.
Veritas Humphreys. I have known the prisoner sixteen or seventeen years: he files brass, works the furniture for guns; we call him a labourer to assist the gun-makers; he has worked with me nine or ten years; he lodged next door to me; I never knew a better man in my life; he has been in my house when he might have robbed me, and I declare I believe him to be as honest a man as ever broke bread; I never heard any other character of him.
Counsel for the Crown. When you say that ever broke bread, do you mean to say any more than this, that he has never wronged you, and you have no reason to doubt his character?
Humphreys. I never heard a tittle against his character.
Q. Do you know any thing of where he has worked for the last six months?
Humphreys. At the top of a place called Mill-yard; I have called there once or twice as I was going by, and have told him I had little jobs, as I could; our business has been very stack since the war; being so I have not employed him much this three months; but I do a little now and then.
Q. Is this in the town way of milling?
Humphreys. I know no use of this more than the child unborn.
Q. It is not for making molds I take it?
Humphreys. I know nothing of the use of it.
George Firth . I have known him thirteen years; he is a very industrious man as far as ever I saw of him; I employed him several times in the gun way; he always behaved very well; as far as ever I saw, he is an honest man.
Counsel for the Crown. You understand the gun-smith business, tell me whether th is is a tool used in that trade or no.
Firth. I do not know the use of it.
Another Witness. I have known him fourteen years: he worked with me successfully five years in the gun branch, in filing barrels, always working one by another, always knowed him honestly and truly to his work; I have trusted him to receive money for me, upon Saturday night he always paid me: I always found him confident and just in whatever I put under his trust.
Thomas Biggs . I am a gun-maker; I have known him ten or eleven years; he worked chiefly in the gun trade; he has worked with me some years; the gun business fell off; he cannot get his living under one hand; he has perhaps half a score employers; he always bore an honest just character, a hard working man, very well beloved.
Counsel for the crown. He is a good ingenious clever fellow is he not?
Biggs. He is a very honest man.
Q. He is a good ingenious man is he not?
Biggs. He is very well in person.
Q. Upon your oath do you think I meant to ask you about his person, yes, or no?
Biggs. You said a clever fellow.
Q. Do you think I meant to ask you about his countenance? I ask you whether he is reputed to be a good, ingenious, clever man?
Biggs. I said there was not much required in it.
Q. That is not an answer: is he reckoned an ingenious fellow?
John Rooker . I have known the prisoner in the late war; he worked upon the ordnance work at that time; he worked in the same branch of business as I did; I have known him since; he always behaved well and honest.
Egbert Tankey . I am a gun-smith: I knew him in the late war; since the late war I worked with him; he has a very good character; he worked in my shop; I never saw any harm of him; I gave him work; he did it; I satisfied him for doing it.
John Marstal . I deal in brandies, rums, and wines; I remember him about a dozen years ago; I was then in Hopes and Stubb's brew-house; he used a house we served on Tower-hill; I never heard any thing to the contrary but that he is a very worthy man; he has cleaned and kept in order a gun and a brace of pistols or two of mine.
- Sutherland. I am a victualler: I have known him about three years, he is a very honest man; he has two guns of mine doing now.
Sarah Buxton . I have known him three years: he is a good honest man; I never heard to the contrary; he was at our house many evenings; I never saw any thing bad of him. I have lived three years in Virginia-street.
Q. Do you know the charge that is against him now?
Precious. I never saw any such thing of him.
William Hill. I cast all kind of foundry work; he is in the same business; I have seen him work many times.
Court. They use melting don't they?
Hill. I melt metal, some tun weight in a year, of all kinds.
Court to Macknabb. I asked you where the instrument was found, you gave me an answer, let me see if I took it right.
Macknabb. They were both found in the fore garret on a table.
The same question to Forrest.
Forest. They were found in the fore garret; the officer took a quarter of a guinea from the butcher too.
Prisoner. Macknabb brought them in a bag out of the room and put them in the fore room, and asked me what they were used for: I said I did not know, nor were they my property.
Macknabb. There was a brown paper bag brought out of the room, and some mould in the place; these two brass implements were upon the place where I brought those to.
Prisoner. This Grove swore in his information and said he threw them away in the country, now he says he threw them away on board a ship.
Humphreys. I was before the Justice; I heard Groves say, that he had bought I think forty shillings or two guineas for a pound of this man; that he wore them in his pocket, and they were a little white, that he could not get them off and therefore threw them away.
Q. Was that all you heard them say?
Humphreys. I heard those words spoken.
Guilty . Death .
328. (M.) MARY GOODWIN was indicted for stealing one silk sack and petticoat, value 3 l. one pair of womens silk damask shoes, value 2 s. one black silk bonnet, value 1 s. one black silk handkerchief, value 5 s. and one striped muslin apron, value 2 s. the property of Lettice Adderly, widow, one silk and stuff gown value 10 s. and one silk and stuff petticoat, value 5 s. the property of Elizabeth Glascott , spinster , Jan. 31st . ~
George Lumley . I am book-keeper at the Castle and Falcon, Aldersgate-street. On the 31st of January, Mr. Thomas Mallet 's waggon came to the inn; the prisoner came as a passenger in it; the next morning I saw her in the tap room with the waggoner, and observed she had got a very handsome large pair of ruffles on; the rest of her dress was just as it is now *; the waggoner and she drank together in the tap house, and she went away the same day about two o'clock; she came back again dressed like a lady, in a very fine negligee, and several other things very unaccountable for a woman that made the appearance she did when she went out; upon her return she enquired for the waggoner where he was; she was informed he was gone to lie down; she ran up stairs into his room; in about two or three minutes they both
* Very shabby.
Catherine Beck . I am a servant to Mrs. Adderley: I packed up the things in a box in Warwickshire; my mistress informed me the boxes should go by the next day to the waggon; I set out the day before in a coach to London; I brought the key of these boxes in my pocket. I had received information that a box was broke open, and was advised to go to Sir John Fielding 's; I went there; the box and things were there, and also the other things which have been produced, which I know to be the property of Mrs. Glascott, as well as I know the rest of the things to be the property of her mistress Mrs. Adderley.
Ann Goddard . I live at Islington; the prisoner lived with me about five weeks as a servant; she left me a year and a half ago; upon the first of January she came dressed very fine to my house, the said an aunt had left her the things produced. The things were taken from her at my house by the waggoner, on the 4th of February, and sent to Sir John Fielding ; the waggoner all along insisted upon it she was the person that stole these things, she denied it.
William Goddard . I keep the Bunn-house at Islington: upon the first of February the prisoner came dressed very fine with the silk sack on; she had likewise a black silk bonnet and laced ruffles; she said they were left her by an aunt; that she came honestly by them. The waggoner was ordered by her to call at the house; she said Mr. Goddard was to pay for her passage up; he did call and met her there, and accused her of stealing these things; she denied it, and said they were her own property, and that she had had them some time, and always said she had never taken any thing that belonged to him or was in his waggon: the waggoner insisted upon it these things should be further enquired about; they were all taken together and carried to Sir John Fielding 's; there they were seen by Mrs. Beck. (The clothes produced and deposed to by Catherine Beck .)
The waggoner gave them to me; the waggoner and I were school-fellows, and intimate from our childhood; he prevailed upon me to come up to London with him; he said he would take me up and down again; he gave me the things out of the waggon.
Guilty . T .
Elizabeth Baines . My sister and I are partners: the prisoner was our journey-woman : we are engine windsters ; I missed a 5 s. 3 d. piece out of my drawer; I charged her with it; she said she took 7 s. when I missed it, I went to her lodgings, and enquired about her conduct; I was informed she had laid out a great deal of money. She confessed it without any promise or threat; she never denied it; that was before I taxed her with it; upon that my sister said, you must have taken some other money, which she confessed.
I did not take it.
She called one witness who gave her a good character.
Guilty . B .
330, 331. (M.) JAMES SHERIDINE and WILLIAM HARDING were indicted for that they on the King's highway, on John Potter , did make an assault, putting him in corporal fear and danger of his life, and stealing from his person a silver watch, value 40 s. and a stone seal set in silver, value 2 s. the property of the said John. Jan. 29th . ++.
(The witnesses were examined apart at the request of the prisoners.)
Q. Are you certain to the prisoners?
Potter. I believe them to be the men, but cannot swear to them; they took from me a silver watch and seal; first they spoke to me; they said it is very dirty walking; another said it was very dark, and then they knocked me down; I got up on my feet; they pretended to help me up, and said they hoped I had not hurt myself; then I felt my watch go out of my pocket; they held my hands fast while the little one took my watch out of my pocket; I pursued and took him; one of Justice Welch's people found the watch; that man's name is I think Coxon; he came down to Greenwich to me, where I live; as soon as the men quitted me, I pursued him I thought took my watch; I do not know certainly which took the watch; I think the little one did.
Q. from the Jury. Was you sober?
Potter. Yes; I went into the Black-horse to treat a person with six-penny-worth of brandy and water; when I went in, the prisoners were in a box drinking a pint of beer; I asked the coachman to drink with me; I had come up from Greenwich in the stage; at the place the Greenwich stage goes from: one of them pushed the pot to the coachman, and asked him to drink, and I think they asked me; we both refused it.
Q. Was you in liquor?
Potter. No, I was not.
John Chandler . I have a seal in my custody, the prosecutor claims to be his property. I am a pawnbroker, and live in Baldwin's-gardens; it was brought me by a man in the name of John Jones ; I know him by sight; he is just gone out of Court.
Prosecutor. This is the seal I had to my watch when I was robbed.
Joseph Dalby . I pawned a watch with Mr. West near three weeks ago; I had it from the prisoner, William Harding ; he worked for Mr. Collins, a plaisterer, in Borners-street Oxford-road; this is the watch; I met him a coming from Westminster; there were two more with him; he asked me to pawn the watch for him, which I did knowing him.
Q. Had you no suspicion of him?
Q. from Sheridine. Do you know any thing of me?
Q. Do you know who the persons were that were with him?
Dalby. I cannot positively swear to them.
Q. Did you before the Justice say you knew the others?
Dalby. No; I knew Harding.
Q. Then you do not know the two prisoners?
Dalby. Not to swear to them; I believe them to be the persons; I never saw them before.
Henry Green. Sheridine and Harding and I went last Friday night was three weeks, we went into the Black-horse at Charing-cross; we saw the prosecutor stand at the bar changing a guinea: Sheridine called me on one side, and said, d - n his eyes, he has changed a guinea, stop a little, and we'll scamp him; we staid about ten minutes in the house; he went out; we followed him over the way: just by the corner of the Mews, Sheridine and I went up and knocked him down by the dead wall of the Mews.
Q. Where was Harding?
Green. Close to us behind; we took the watch out of his pocket, and Sheridine and I ran away; Sheridine took it out of his pocket as he was down.
Q. Who helped him up?
Green. Harding got hold of one arm, Sheridine hold of the other; they were going to lift him up and some gentlemen's servants came by, and we let him down again; he was not quite up.
Q. Did they say any thing to him when they listed him up?
Green. Not that I know.
Q. Did they say they hoped he was not hurt?
Green. I did not hear them say so, they let him go and he fell down upon his backside again.
Q. Nothing was said to him?
Green. I did not hear any thing said to him.
Q. Not hear Sheridine say any thing to him?
Q. Where was you when they were helping him up?
Q. Near enough to hear any thing that passed?
Green. I did not hear a word pass.
Q. to Sheridine. He says we knocked him down at the corner of the Mews, the prosecutor said at the corner of Hedge-lane?
I was coming from the Mews: I went to make water at the corner of the Mews; Green went up and said there was a man stone-blind-drunk; he said, Harding come here; I went up; he was quite drunk; they lifted him up; one picked a watch out of his pocket; they said, come along; they ran away and said they had got a watch.
I know nothing about it.
Q. to Green. Do you know Dalby?
Green. I never saw him before that night.
Q. Where did you see him then?
Green. At the bottom of the Hay-market.
Q. How came you to take notice of him then if you never saw him before?
Green. Harding spoke to him.
Harding. They said they would give me something if I would pawn it for them; Green asked me, then I asked Dalby, if he could pawn it for me.
Q. to Chandler. Who was it pawned the seal to you?
Chandler. It was Dalby.
Q. to Dalby. Then you pawned the watch with one man and the seal with another?
Q. How came you to do that?
Chandler. I pawned it a fortnight afterwards.
Q. You had it in trust from them to pawn?
Chandler. They gave me the seal for my trouble.
Both guilty . Death .
331. (M.) MARY SMITH was indicted for stealing one pinchbeck watch, value 5 l. and thirty-eight guineas, and one half guinea, in money, numbered, the property of John Cummings , in the dwelling house of John Sanderson , Jan. 15, 1771 . +
Q. What watch?
Cummings. A pinchbeck watch; it was at one Mr. Sanderson's; he kept a public house; he is now dead; the prisoner came to Mr. Dickenson's house, knocked at the door, and asked if the maids wanted any muslins; I went to enquire; they said they did not want any. When I came back she told me she wanted to speak particularly with me, she had something of consequence to say to me.
Q. Did you know her?
Cummings. I never saw her before. I desired her to go to the tap house and I would come to her presently; I went; she said she could not tell me what she had to say unless I could lay down a sum of money, as much as I could get, and count it before her; I went into the compting house and borrowed a sum of money.
Q. What did you expect from this, to let a person you never saw in your life have your money?
Cummings. I did not mean to let her have it: I went and borrowed ten guineas, and then I borrowed twenty more; she then said she could not tell me there, that the house was not convenient; we went to another; she said that would not do; then we went to another which was John Sanderson 's, and I took the money with me; we went into a back room of his, and there I counted the money I had made up, 40 l. 8 s. 6 d. she bid me put it in a handkerchief; I did so, and she tied it up in three or four knots as I thought, and desired me to tie up a knot or two besides.
Q. from the Jury. Was it her handkerchief?
Cummings. No, it was mine.
Q. from the Jury. You tied some knots too did you?
Q. How many?
Cummings. One or two, I am not positive, and she gave me the money as I thought, and bid me take it home and put it in my box, and desired me to swear solemnly I would not look at it till next morning.
Q. Are you sure it was your own handkerchief you took?
Q. Who put the money in the handkerchief?
Cummings. To the best of my knowledge I put it in.
Cummings. Till next morning; when I came to look at it in the morning, I found nothing but bad halfpence.
Q. But what profit was you to have from this?
Cummings. She took such solemn oaths, and I was foolish enough to believe her, that there was a quantity of plate lodged for some years in the cellar.
Q. In what cellar?
Cummings. The cellar where I live.
Q. You was to have that plate?
Cummings. Yes. I was to make it appear I had so much money; that I was worth so much, or else she could not tell me any thing of the matter.
Court. You never was served so before?
Cummings. I did not think a man could be imposed on so.
Q. She did not tell you she put the plate there?
Q. This was all from her superior knowledge, she passed for a conjurer I suppose?
Cummings. Yes, my Lord.
Q. What did you do when you found your mistake?
Cummings. I made myself content, for I thought it was all in vain to look after her.
Q. What do you say about the watch?
Cummings. I took it out to see what was o'clock; she said it was a pretty watch; I gave it her to look at; I forgot to ask for it again; I never saw it again.
Q. Did she ask to see it?
Q. Did not she give it you again?
Cummings. No; I never saw it again.
Q. When did you miss it?
Cummings. As soon as I got home; I went directly home from Sanderson's.
Q. How far did you live from Sanderson's?
Cummings. About 100 yards.
Q. Did you stop any where in your way?
Q. Did you speak to any body in the street?
Cummings. I went straight home.
Q. Whose plate was this to be; did you think it was to rise out of the earth, or come from the heavens?
Cummings. She said it had been lodged there some years.
Q. You are sure you did not lose your watch going home?
Cummings. I am sure of it.
Q. How came you to meet with the woman now?
Cummings. At present I keep a public house in the Minories, which Mr. Dickenson put me in; she came one morning for a pennyworth of purl and some bread and cheese; I thought at first look that she was the woman that robbed me; at the second look I was positive she was the woman; I then sent for a constable and sent her to the Compter.
Q. When was this?
Cummings. About three weeks ago.
Q. Are you sure she had this money of your's?
Cummings. Yes, I am very sure of it.
Q. Who held the handkerchief while the money was put in it?
Cummings. She held it.
Q. Was it put in your handkerchief, and then in a handkerchief of her own?
Cummings. She had one of her own, I do not know what she did with it.
Q. It took you up a good while looking for your plate I suppose?
Cummings. I thought it was in vain to look when I found I was taken in so.
Q. from the Jury. When you took her did she say any thing?
Cummings. She said she did not know any thing of me, and made a noise and wanted to get out; I bid her sit easy, I would not hurt her; two or three persons in the tap room came to assist me.
Q. I suppose you was to have all the plate in the cellar.
Cummings. I was to look for the plate and to have it I suppose if there was any: I was simple enough then to believe it; it was the first time and I imagine it will be the last.
Guilty of stealing but not in the dwelling house .
MARY JONES and ELIZABETH FRENCH were indicted; the first for stealing one silver watch; value 30 s. the property of Richard Smith , and the other for receiving the above watch knowing it to be stolen , Jan. 31st . ++
Both acquitted .
336. (M.) THOMAS BIRD was indicted for stealing one large copper pottage pot, value 20 s. one copper stew-pan, value 6 s. one copper boiler, value 20 s. three copper pot covers, value 6 s. three pair of linen sheets, value 15 s. and four blankets, value 8 s. the property of James Sexton , Feb. 16th . ++
James Sexton . I keep a public house in Peter's street, St. James's ; this man was quartered on me about three weeks. I missed these things from different parts of the house; the sheets and blankets from where his bed is, and the copper out of the kitchen; the maid catched him going out at the back door with a pot; I was a bed; she came up and told me of it; I came down and got a warrant directly.
Q. Did you find any of the things?
Ann Duncan . I am a servant at this house. I came there only yesterday week; the things were missing before I came; there were but two copper pots in the kitchen; my mistress desired me to carry them up into her room because so many had been stolen. On Wednesday morning I cleaned them, and left them in the kitchen; in about five minutes I returned to the kitchen and missed one of them; I came out directly and the prisoner, Bird, with a pot, was climbing over the table that stands by the back door; there is no passage to the door without getting over the table; he jumped off the table on the outside towards the door; I went directly and got the pot and asked him how he came to have the pot there; he said he never saw it; I went and told my master.
Q. Was the prisoner getting up on the table or was he upon it?
Duncan. He was on the table with the pot in his hand; he let it down directly on the ground on the side of the table. (The pot produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
It is a common passage, and this gentleman knows many of the things were lost before I came there; I know nothing of the pot; I was not out all the morning till they served the warrant upon me; that passage is a common passage; it is never locked night nor day. I had been to the vault and was coming back; I had not the pot nor do not know how it came there; they keep an irregular house; there are comers and goers all night long. I belong to the second regiment of Guards, Colonel Lester's company .
Guilty . T .
337. (M.) SARAH JONES , spinster , was indicted for stealing a silk cloak, value 6 s. a serge jacket, value 3 s. a wollen surtout coat, value 2 s. a pair of linen trowsers, value 1 s. 6 d. and a camblet gown, value 4 s. the property of George Trooper , Jan. 21st . ++
Elizabeth Trooper . My husband is a printer : he lives in East Smithfield; I carry on the business of a pawnbroker. On the 31st of January, about six in the evening, the prisoner came into my shop to ask for a shift, and asked for it 2 s having been pledged, in a name, which upon looking into the books, I found not there; I bid the prisoner at last fetch the person that pledged it, for I had no such a thing in that name; she was in and out two or three times in the whole in about a quarter of an hour; she went away and in about ten minutes after, before any person came into the shop, I missed a cloak, which hung by a string in the reach of one of the little boxes; the prisoner came to me afterwards and asked me if I had been robbed; I said, yes; then she said I had; she said I had been robbed of the jacket, cloak and trowsers; I had not missed them then. She said she could tell me who had stole these things, and mentioned one Garacker; she went out and said she would fetch her, but did not; the woman was brought there by somebody else, and the prisoner was not to be found to make good her charge against her; on the contrary, she charged the prisoner, and by her directions I found the cloak at one Orlington's, and a jacket at one Wynne's.
- Wynne. I think it was about two or three days at most after the prosecutor lost her things, about the 21st of January, that the prisoner, and this Garacker, came to my shop in Ratcliffe-highway, and brought a jacket and a pair of trowsers; I agreed with the prisoner for the price; she appeared to act as an owner, and
Elizabeth Orton . The prisoner is the person that brought the cloak to me; she offered to sell it; I said I did not want one, but Orlington did; I carried her to her bed side; they agreed for 6 s. the prisoner then said she had bought a lot of goods of a pawnbroker.
For the prisoner.
- Roberts. Garacker came in and asked Jones for 4 s. to take them out of pawn, the prisoner had but 3 s. she raised another shilling by pawning a shift; Garacker went and got them out, and brought them to Jones's lodgings; they were pinned up separately as if they came from a pawnbroker's; they were unpinned and looked at, and there was nothing but a waistcoat, a kind of a jacket, and cloak; then she went away and bid Jones a good night; I understood they were going out to sell these things; it could not be more than a fortnight ago; it was on a Tuesday, about four in the afternoon.
Guilty 4 s. T .
338. (M.) MARY LEE was indicted for stealing three brass candlesticks, value 4 s. one copper coffee pot, value 2 s. two flat irons, value 2 s. one brass fender, value 2 s. the property of Adam Wright , Feb. 12th . ++
Adam Wright . On the 12th of February, about five in the afternoon, my little boy said there was a woman in the kitchen, and had taken away the things mentioned in the indictment. I know nothing of the woman.
George Lacock . I am apprentice to Mr. Wright: I heard there was a noise; the girl called to me and said there was somebody in the kitchen; I saw the prisoner; I laid hold of her; she had in her apron these things (producing them); she was coming towards the door. (They are deposed to by the prosecutor.)
- Smeethen. I was working on the top of the house; I was told the boy had hold of a woman that had been robbing the house; she was taken to Sir John Fielding ; this is the woman; I took her; she was not out of my custody till committed.
Prisoner. I submit myself to the mercy of the Court.
Guilty 10 d. W .
339. (L.) ANN JONES was indicted for stealing one woollen cloth coat, value 10 s. one pair of worsted knit breeches, value 10 s. three linnen shirts, value 10 s. one pair of worsted stockings, value 2 s. one linen neckcloth, value 10 d. the property of Thomas Warner , and one woollen cloth coat, value 10 s. and one woollen cloth waistcoat, value 5 s. the property of John Weeks , Jan. 22d . ||
Q. Did she come there on any business?
Warner. I believe to her brother; her brother works there; she staid about a quarter of an hour; then I went up into my room and missed all my things; that was about four o'clock; they hung up over the head of my bed.
Q. The coat, knit breeches, three shirts, a pair of stockings and a neckcloth?
Warner. Yes. My fellow apprentice and I went to a pawnbroker's; there I found my coat and a pair of stockings.
Warner. In Bridgewater-gardens.
Q. At whose-house?
Warner. Mrs. Warmsley's; then we went into Golden-lane and found Weeks's coat and waistcoat and my breeches, at Mr. Payne's; then we went home to my master's, and her brother said, I dare say it was my sister, and we went and took her up on suspicion.
Francis Smith . I am servant to Mr. Payne. I had a coat, waistcoat and breeches pledged by the prisoner, the 22d of January, in the evening between four and five; I know nothing of the prisoner; I do not remember ever seeing her before; she said that her husband was a shoe-maker; that his name was Edwards and her name Ann; that they lived at Mr. Dennison's in Cooper's-court; soon after I took them
Warner. These are my breeches.
Weeks. This is my coat and waistcoat.
Q. from the prisoner. When I went to Mr. Smith he denied I was the person?
Smith. I thought she appeared more bulky, and was not sure she was the person.
Mary Warmsley . I have a coat, a shirt, and a pair of stockings; I took them in of the prisoner about three in the afternoon, on Friday the 22d of January. I have seen her at the shop before; I am sure she is the real person. (The things produced and deposed to by Mr. Warner.)
Q. from the prisoner. When I was taken to Mrs. Warmsley she said she did not know me; that night she said she did not know me to be be the real person.
Warmsley. I said I believed she was the real person; she was about her stature and like the voice.
John Corner. I am a constable; I searched the lodging of the prisoner; she went with me; I found two shirts and a neckcloth, she fetched from behind a counter under the safe in the shop.
It is true I did pawn the things; the rest I found in my lodgings; they were brought there by a woman that desired me to pawn some of them, and let the rest lay at my house.
For the Prisoner.
Q. Has she a husband?
Q. Any children?
Dadley. Yes, two; one about eleven years.
Guilty . T .
340. (M.) JAMES BOYD was indicted for stealing two live geese, value 6 s. one live gander, value 3 s. four live drakes, value 4 s. one live duck, value 1 s. and six live fowls, value 6 s. the property of Bright Hemmings , Feb. 4th . ||
Bright Hemmings. I live in Curzon-street, May-fair : I am a stable keeper ; I lost fowls, which I suppose to be these; I was out of town when I suppose them to be lost, which was the night of the fourth of this month. I know nothing of the fact.
John Granger . The prisoner brought these goods to my place: I buy and sell all sorts of fowls, birds, and such things; he brought them yesterday fortnight; three geese, five ducks and six fowls; he said his father was a farmer in the country, and sent things up to sell in Newgate-market. I know nothing more of it.
Mary Wilkinson . I am Mr. Hemmings's servant: I know the geese to be my master's property; they were lost on the 4th of February, in the night; I missed them in the morning; three geese, five ducks, and six fowls; they were in a barn; some of the boards of the barn were broke; I have seen the fowls at Granger's on Holborn-hill.
Q. When did you see them there?
Wilkinson. The 5th of February, the day after they were lost; I could swear to the geese at that time, and the ducks appeared very like them; the geese were marked in the feet; one of the ganders had a knotch in his foot; one of the geese had a piece out of its foot, and another a claw off the toe.
I went with a drove of sheep; I met a man on the road; he pulled out three geese, five ducks and six fowls, and I bought them of him in the road below Hammersmith-turnpike; I paid him 2 s. 6 d. a-piece for the geese and 3 s. a-piece for the fowls; I do not know the man.
For the prisoner.
Guilty . T .
Edward Webb . I am a watchman of Aldgate High-street market.
Webb. Yes. On the 13th of this month I was looking about the goods and saw the prisoner go in where the goods hang to cool in the night; I went to him; he had a sheep off of the hook; I said what are you going to do with this; he threw it down and ran away; I pursued him and took him immediately, in about the space of twelve yards from where I saw him first; I took him to the watch-house; there he fell asleep; I examined his coat, and there was grease upon it of a carcase.
I am not the man that took the carcase; I had no grease on my clothes.
Guilty . T .
John Callowhill . I am a hosier on Snow-hill : the prisoner came into my shop between seven and eight, and asked for some black plain woman's stockings; I took down seven parcels for him to take his choice of them; he said he came from a Mrs. Williams in Fleet-street; at this time my handkerchief lay on the counter; soon after I missed it; I did not find the stockings missing; I had an occasion an hour after to go to Hatton Garden; I saw the prisoner, and what attracted my notice I saw him with a bundle wrapped up in a handkerchief; I suspected that handkerchief to be mine; I charged a constable with him; upon searching him the handkerchief was taken from him.
The constable deposed that he searched the prisoner on the prosecutor's charge, and found a handkerchief and four pair of stockings; they were produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.
Guilty . T .
William Jones . I am servant to Mr. Ray, who keeps the White Horse, a public house in Clare-market; I draw beer there. I received my wages, amounting to 29 s. last Saturday was a week; the prisoner was in the house at the time, and having an intention to leave my place, I asked him to go with me to see another place; which he did: he asked me to lend him two-pence to get some bread and cheese; I had no halfpence, so I lent him six-pence; we lay together at my master's house; when I waked the next morning he was putting on his clothes by my side.
Q. Where did you put your breeches when you went to bed?
Jones. Under the bolster; he had been under the bed, and in the bed searching for something; he said he had lost his knee buckle; I asked him where he was going so early; he said to the washer-woman for his shirt; when he was gone, I searched my pocket and missed my money. I am sure I had it when I went to bed. I ran down stairs to stop him, but he was gone. I awaked the maids and my master, and told them I had been robbed; a gentleman that was in the house saw him over the water, and had him stopped the same day; he had got a new hat, a new pair of shoes, and a new pair of stockings.
Q. Did you find any money about him?
Jones. Yes, two or three shillings; I cannot tell whether that was any part of my money; I found in my pocket in the morning a shilling wrapped up in a piece of paper, instead of a guinea and half a crown.
Q. Did any body else lodge in the same room besides you and the prisoner?
Q. Was the door of the room locked?
I know nothing of his money; I did not take it; I went that morning to my washer-woman's for a shirt; I had a half guinea the night before; he lent me 2 d. that I might not change my half guinea; I went to Lambeth to see an acquaintance; I went into a public house for a pint
Guilty . T .
346. (M.) BENJAMIN DUMERE , otherwise DUNMORE , was indicted for stealing five li nen shirts, value 3 l. a man's hat, value 5 s. a pair of silk stockings, value 1 s. and a linen handkerchief, value 1 s. the property of William Allen , Feb. 5 . ++
347. (M.) ELIZABETH NIXON , spinster , was indicted for stealing five guineas and two shillings in money, numbered, the property of Harry Wiltshire , privately from the person of Charles Wiltshire , Feb. 17 . ++
William Lines . I keep a wholesale warehouse in Milk-street: from March to November I received divers letters, among which was this particular letter, subscribed Thomas Grantham , desiring two pieces of moreen; I sent them with a bill of parcels; it was brought to me the 11th of July, 1772. (The letter is read.) Some time after Charles Hanforth came to me, and said, sir, I obtained goods in the name of Grantham for a person, it is all a fraud, and the person is now taken up for a like offence, for which he was tried on Saturday at Hick's Hall.
Q. Do you remember going to the house of Mr. Lines for moreen?
Hanforth. Yes; some time in the summer I carried a letter for two pieces of crimson; Bradley told me it was for two pieces of moreen; I brought the two pieces of moreen to Mr. Bradley, to the Black Lion, Black-Horse-street, Drury-lane.
Q. You did not read the letter?
Hanforth. No; it was sealed.
Q. Did you carry any more letters?
Hanforth. Yes; five, six or seven.
Q. How often did you bring the moreen?
Hanforth. Every time I went I had moreen; the first time I had two pieces.
I had that letter and I believe three more of George Cooper , a master in our way of business; he met me in Dean-street, and sold, how do you do, come we will drink together; we went into a public house and he gave me this letter and some others and desired me to send a porter with it for some goods for Mr. Grantham, as he was at work for him and he would pay me; I have enquired after Cooper since I have been in custody, but have been informed he is gone into the country; I delivered him the goods at twice.
Guilty . Imp. 6 Mon.
Timothy Williamson . I am a goldsmith in Fleet-street; I knew the prisoner was employed for Mr. Clements, a man of fortune at Thames Ditton; I had heard he had been employed as a bricklayer to build a small house for him; he called on me the evening of the 19th of Jan. and told me that he was come to town to buy some things for his master, Mr. Clements; that his money had run short, and that he should be obliged to me to let him have two guineas, and his master would pay me on his returning to town, and it would save him returning to Thames Ditton; he said he believed his master would come to Town on the Friday following; I let him have the two guineas, but the next morning he called and wanted sixteen more, on which I suspected
Mr. Clements. I know the prisoner.
Q. Do you know any thing of his receiving two guineas on your account?
Clements. I had not seen him for six weeks or two months before; the whole of it was false; he had been out of my service for some time before that.
When I asked Mr. Williamson for the two guineas I did not make use of Mr. Clements's name; I borrowed it for myself.
For the Prisoner.
Guilty . Imp. 6 Mon.
Freelove Johnson. I am son of Thomas Johnson : the prisoner came to our house the 18th of January, and wanted a bundle of matts; he said he came from Mess. Gum; they had credit at our house; I delivered the matts to him, and made him a bill of parcels; he came again the 20th and wanted another bundle; I served him with it, and made him a bill of parcels; he came again at night and wanted another bundle; I asked him for the bill of parcels to put them together; he said he had given it to Mr. Chalton, Mess. Gums clerk; he came again the 26th and had six mats; there is ten in a bundle. My father had a suspicion of him, and sent me to Mr. Gum's to enquire if he lived there; he said he did not. When he was taken before Alderman Bull, he confessed he obtained them, and did not come from Mr. Gum; that he did it for bread for his children.
- Bence. I am servant to Mr. Gum; the prisoner left our service the 25th of December: I do not believe he ever was near the house since.
He knows nothing of the affair no more than your Lordship: Mr. Gum has two houses; he was at the other house, and knows nothing of the matter; I never went for any but what I was sent for; Mr. Chatham gave me orders to fetch them.
Guilty . T .
* 351, 352. (L.) JOHN O'CONNER and JOHN ALSIBROOK were indicted, for that they by fraud, shift, cozenage, deceit, and bad practice, in playing with one Richard Ryder , at a certain game at cards, called cribbage, did win, obtain and acquire to themselves, above the sum of 10 l. at one fitting, to wit 23 l.
* This was tried last Sessions, but we had not room to insert it in the last Sessions Paper.
Third Count. Both charged with winning above the sum of 10 l. at one sitting.
"the Bell Inn in Wood-street, deposed, that
"he frequently used the King's Head alehouse
"near Cripplegate; that on the 6th of
"October, about three in the afternoon, he
"was there with the defendants; that he had
"known Alsibrook for some years; that he only
"knew O'Conner by sight as he passed his house
"at Barnet; that he was a little forward in
"liquor; that he called again at eight and
"saw the defendants; that he was worse then,
"with respect to liquor, than he was before, for
"he was quite fuddled; that O'Conner shewed
"him some cards and asked him to play at
"cribbage; that he asked the witness if he
"had any opinion of himself; that he opened
"the paper and threw the cards down, and
"asked him if he dare play at cribbage; that
"he played at cribbage with O'Conner; that
"Alsibrook sat at the end of the table sideways
"to O'Connor and him; that they sat at
"a long table and narrow in the kitchen where
"they generally set; that they played but for
"a trifle at first, a 5 s. 3 d. that they played so
"some time, and got from that to half a guinea
"then to a guinea; that he could not recollect
"the particulars, he was so intoxicated that he
"could hardly hold the cards; that he believed
"he had six or eight guineas in his pocket;
"that he borrowed to the amount of 21 l. 6 s.
"to O'Connor more than 14 l. that Alsibrook
"won of him 11 l. or 12 l. by betting; that
"Alsibrook sat in such position that he could
"see both their cards; that he Alsibrook lent
"him eight guineas, though at another time
"he would not have lent him eight shillings;
"that it was lost very soon.
"On his cross examination, he said that he
"did not play at cards at that house more than
"once a month; that it was a house he commonly
"used; that it was O'Connor that first
"offered to bett; that it was in the public
"kitchen, and there were many people present;
"that the defendants were sober; that
"he could not swear positively what he lost to
"Head, deposed that Ryder was much in
"liquor; that the defendants dined at his
"house; that after dinner Alsibrook asked him
"if he had a clean pack of cards; that he
"expected some friends to spend the evening;
"that Ryder was not there then; that upon
"his telling him he had no cards, he desired
"the servant might get a pack, which he consented
"to; that he did not send her; that at
"ten o'clock his servant came, and informed him
"Alsibrook wanted the cards; that he bid her
"mind her work, and not take notice of it;
"that in about ten minutes she came to him,
"and said there must be cards got; that then
"she brought the cards and they went to play;
"that at that time Ryder was very much in
"liquor; that they played at cribbage, and he
"believed Ryder lost upwards of 26 l. that somebody
"took away the cards.
"On his cross examination, he said they
"appeared to him at first to be fairly matched,
"but did not think so afterwards; that Alsibrook,
"when he got up, threw some brandy
"and water over the table; that he then
"appeared to be in liquor; he said that he
"himself betted at the desire of Alsibrook till
"he lost about 10 s. he said he lent Ryder
"eight guineas; that two people had played
"with an old pack of cards for six penny worth
"of liquor before they began.
"part of the time; he said he never saw Ryder
"so much in liquor before; that they played
"till two in the morning; that he endeavoured
"to get Ryder away, but he would not
"her master's evidence respecting the
"cards, that when she brought them Alsibrook
"met her in the street, and asked her for them;
"that she refused to give them to him, and carried
"them to her master, and that he d - d
"her because, she would not deliver them to
"him; that Alsibrook took the cards from her
"mistress and carried them into the kitchen.
The defendants called no witnesses.
O'CONNOR guilty of winning above 10 l .
ALSIBROOK guilty of winning above 10 l. by bad practices .
Judgment respited .
The Trials being ended, the Court proceeded to give judgment as follows:
Received Sentence of Death, 14.
Francis Mercier , Thomas Bond , John Fawcet , Ann Griffiths , otherwise Hatch, Gabriel D'Chaund , Richard Bilby , John Bezor , Richard Bezor , James Sherridine , William Harding , Mary Delaney , Henry West , Kenrick Mac Kensie , Joseph Piddock .
Transportation for seven years, 39.
David Johnson , Bridget Singleton , James Carter , Michael Daw , William Smith , John Baker , Ann Millett , William Benn , Henry Palmer , William Dalton , Bortle Warren , James Greatwood , Isabella Lawson , John Plumb , William Davis , Thomas Franklin , Mary Catherine Cameron , James Batty , Henry Whitebread , John Jones , Mary Smith , Thomas Bird , Sarah Jones , James Boyd , Robert Denman , Isaac Lazarus , James Lover , William Haggett , Mary Wood , William Cane , Elizabeth Davis , Richard King , Timothy Burn , John Whitehead , John Eades , Mary Goodwin , John Marsh and Samuel Watkinson .
Imp. twelve Months and stand in the Pillory. 1.
Imp. six Months. 1.