In the Eleventh Year of His MAJESTY's Reign. Being the Eighth SESSION in the MAYORALTY of The Right Honourable BRASS CROSBY, Esq; LORD-MAYOR of the CITY of LONDON.
NUMBER VIII. PART I.
Sold by T. EVANS, No. 54, in PATER-NOSTER ROW.
King's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol-Delivery, held for the City of LONDON, &c.
BEFORE the Right Honourable BRASS CROSBY, Esquire, Lord Mayor of the City of London; the Honourable Sir RICHARD ADAMS , Knt. one of the Barons of his Majesty's Court of Exchequer *; the Honourable Sir HENRY GOULD , Knt. one of the Justice of his Majesty's Court of Common Pleas +; JAMES EYRE , Esq; Recorder; ++ JOHN NUGENT , Esq; Common Serjeant; ~ JOHN HYDE , Esq; || and others of his Majesty's Justice of Oyer and Terminer of the City of London, and Justices of Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City and County of Middlesex.
N. B. The *, +, ++, ~ ||, refer to the Judges by whom the prisoners were tried.
L. London, M. Middlesex Jury.
1st Middlesex Jury.
2d Middlesex Jury.
Eleanor Parker was indicted for stealing twelve shillings in money, numbered , the property of William Vincent May 23d .
The prosecutor was called, but did not appear, his recognizance war ordered to be estreated.
681, 682 (M.) Elizabeth Johnson , otherwise Wood, otherwise Smith , and William Smith were indicted for stealing one 36 s. piece, ten guineas, and twenty half guineas , the property of Peter Brand , Sept. 6th . ++
683. (M.) Mary Nicholson was indicted for stealing one pair of sheets, value 10 s. two copper sauce-pans, value 4 s. one copper tea-kettle, value 2 s. and one flat iron, value 6 d. the property of John Hill ; the same being in a lodging room let by contract to the said Mary . March 3d . *
685, 686. (M.) William Mitchel , and John Carter were indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling house of Sarah Jedear , widow , on the eight of October, about the hour of twelve in the night, and stealing one feather bed, value 10 s. three blankets, value 3 s. and one coverlid, value 1 s. the property of Sarah Jedear , and one looking glass, value 1 s. and a wooden box, value 1 s. the property of Elizabeth Jordan , widow , in the said dwelling house , October 8th . +
Sarah Jedear . I live in St. Giles's. I have two houses at St. Pancrass ; my servant, Sarah Symmonds , told me that one of my houses had been broke open the night before, and the things lost that are mentioned in the indictment. The next day, Thursday the 10th, I was sent for by Mr. Welch, and saw my things at his office. (repeating them.)
Elizabeth Jordan . On the Monday, preceding the Wednesday, I saw the things, mentioned in the indictment, in the parlour; on the Thursday following I saw them at justice Welch's; this glass is my property.
Robert Westcot . I am a constable. On the 9th of October, between twelve and one in the morning, two of our parroles brought the two prisoners to the watch house, together with the things mentioned in the indictment; Mitchel said they were his property; that he was removing them from his apartments, in St. John's Palace, Tottenham Court road, because there was a writ against him. Carter said he was his brother, and was assisting him, and said that he was going upon duty, and desired me to let him go, which I did; the justice believed what Mitchel said, and ordered me to keep the goods till the landlord was satisfied and so Mitchel was discharged. He came again the same day with a man that took upon, him the character of his landlord. I observed that the man appeared a good deal confused. I sent him and Mitchel, with the beadle, to the watch house, to look at the goods; I saw no more of that man, but Mitchel came back by himself. I went with him to go to his apartments, in St. John's palace; when we come to the fields he refused to go on; he desired me to wait for him, and he promised me he would return again, which he did. I took him to Mr. Welch's; I told him that I must detain him, for I had heard that he had broke open a house; then he said that his brother broke open the house, and that he assisted him. He went with me to take Carter the next morning, at his lodgings, in Westminster. As we came through St. James's I heard Carter say to Mitchel, if we / could get the things and hurt them over the garden wall again, it would be all very right.
William Day . I am a patrole. I met the two prisoners, between twelve and one o'clock, in Ormond street, Queen square; Carter had the box and looking glass, Mitchel had the bed and the rest of the goods; we secured them; they offered me some beer to let them go; I refused it, and took them to the watch house.
- Murray. another of the patroles confirmed this evidence.
"Mitchel, in his defence, said that he found the bundle, in Islington road, with the box and glass tied upon it, that he took them home; that afterwards expecting his goods to be seized, he was removing them when he was stopt by the patrole."
"Carter said in his defence, that his brother asked him to carry some of his goods for him, to prevent their being seized; that he agreed to assist him, but did not know how he came by the goods.
Mitchel, Guilty of felony only . T .
Carter, acquitted .
687. (L.) Richard Dennison was indicted for stealing a linen petticoat, value 2 s. the property of Jacob Currier , and a linen gown, value 2 s. the property of Rachel Minors , spinster , October 14th . ++
Rebecca Currier . There was a petticoat and gown hung up in my garret; I had not missed them when they were brought to my house by Jackson; I immediately knew the petticoat to be mine, and the gown to be Rachel Minors 's.
- Jackson. The prisoner and I worked at a house adjoining to the prosecutor's; we were at the top of the house; I had seen the gown hang up in Mr. Currier's garret. I went out; when I came back I observed the prisoner's dress was too bulky. I insisted upon seeing what he had got; I took this gown out of his inside coat pocket, and from his bosom, under his shirt, this petticoat. I took them to Mr. Currier's, and they owned them.
(Produced and deposed to by the prosecutrix.)
I found them in the gutter, as I was serving the bricklayers, at the top of the house. I have some people to give me a character, but they are not here.
Guilty , T .
688. (L.) Lyon Alexander otherwise Lype Saunders was indicted for stealing twelve linen shirts, value 12 l. twelve linen shifts, value 12 l. two linen counterpanes, value 4 l. six pieces of corded silk embroidered with silver, value 20 l. a silk curtain, value 20 s. three silk gowns, value 3 l. a pair of linen sheets, value 10 s. a pair of silver sconces, value 10 l. and a silver milk-pot, value 30 s. the property of Isaac Jess Alvarar , in the dwelling-house of the said Isaac , Aug. 13 . ++
Isaac Jess Alvarar . I have a house in St. Mary Axe . On the 14th of August my servant came to the coffee-house to me, and informed me I had been robbed. I was with my family at my country-house at Hackney I went home and found every lock broke, and the things gone that are mentioned in the indictment; I went and informed Sir John Fielding of what I had lost. A few days afterwards some silk was produced, of my wife's own embroidering, which was found on the prisoner, as I understand; about a fortnight after that another bundle of things was produced, which are my property; I was in my house on Friday the 9th, every thing was safe then.
Samuel Johnson . I live at Canterbury. On Wednesday or Thursday in the first week in September, the prisoner called at my house, and asked me if I wanted two chintz counterpanes; he said they were very fine and handsome, upon which I desired to see them; he brought them soon afterwards; I perceived they were black, and appeared as if they had been used a good while; he asked four guineas and a half for them, at last we agreed for two guineas; he then asked me if I wanted a silk waistcoat, he brought me two remnants of silk, I gave him eighteen shillings for them. On the Monday following Sir John Fielding 's people had took up the prisoner at Canterbury, and they called upon me; I immediately produced the things I had bought of him; (the goods produced, and deposed to by the prosecutor.)John Fielding 's, (the goods produced, and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
I never sold or delivered any things to Levi. I have travelled that country these twenty years; the things Mr. Johnson produced I bought of a Frenchman near Canterbury; I gave fifty shillings for them, and sold them to Mr. Johnson for three pounds; there was a Scotchman present when I bought them.
For the Prisoner:
Saunders Aaron. I have known the prisoner upwards of twenty years; he has bought several hundreds of snuff of my master, and paid very honestly for his goods; I never heard any bad character of him.
James Goldsborough . I am a watch-spring maker, and live at No. 5, in Union-court, Holborn; I have known him nine years, he used to sell snuff and rhubarb, he bears a good character; I never heard any thing to the contrary.
Thomas Eastman . I keep the George and Vulture tavern, Cornhill ; on the 3d of July we missed the two table-spoons; the prisoner lived with me then as a porter ; he left me on the 28th, or 29th of September.
John Read . I am servant to Mr. Axford; the prisoner gave away some sugar-candy to a girl, who brought it into the shop again; we then searched the prisoner's box, which was at the stable, there we found these two spoons, (producing two spoons broke to pieces.)
Prosecutor. They are my property, I bought them of Mr. Barton my predecessor; they are marked with a B in the bowl.
William Jennings . I was fellow-servant to the prisoner at the George and Vulture; we lost two spoons, marked as these are, at the time he lived there; when he was accused with stealing them, he said he found them in the dust or dust-hole.
I found them when I was in liquor, just as they are; I kept them in my pocket two months; I never thought any thing of them till after I left that place; I put them in my box; I did not know that they were silver; my box was not locked.
Guilty , T .
James Barnard Mr. Payne came up to me as I was standing in Guildhall on the 28th of September, and told me the prisoner had picked my pocket; he went up to the prisoner and put his hand to the prisoner's pocket, and pulled his hand out of his pocket, and my handkerchief was in his hand.
William Payne . I observed the prisoner when I was at Guildhall, attending my duty as a constable during the poll on the 28th of September, very busy about the hall; I suspected what he was about and watched him from place to place, at last I saw him go near the prosecutor, I thought he had picked his pocket; I went up to the prosecutor, and asked him if he had not lost his handkerchief; he told me he had; I followed the prisoner and caught the handkerchief in his hand before he had
I saw Mr. Barnard drop his handkerchief; I stooped to pick it up for him, and Mr. Payne seized my hand as I was going to give it him.
Guilty , T .
Richard Ayton . I lost my horse out of a field, at Southgate , the night between the 15th and 16th of August. I saw him again last Friday, at a livery stable, in Hart street, Covent Garden; I am sure it is my horse. I know nothing of the prisoner. The prisoner said before Sir John Fielding , that he bought the horse, and that it carried him very well.
Joseph Hurt . I am a stable keeper, at Moorgate; Mr. Ayton's horses used to stand with me; this horse stood with me two years; it is a bay gelding, about fifteen hands high; it was at Mr. Ayton's, at Southgate, on the 15th of August. I saw him, by an order from justice Fielding, last week, at a stable keeper's, in Covent Garden, I don't know the sign. I am certain it was Mr. Ayton's horse that I saw there.
William Russel . I keep an inn, in Bermondsey street, Southwark. The horse that Mr. Ayton owns, stood at my stables, near a month; it was brought to me by the prisoner. It went from my stables, on the 3d or 4th of October; I was not present when it was taken away; my wife and maid, who were present, told me the prisoner took it away; he had taken it out three or four times while it stood with me; he paid me two or three times for it: he took care of it himself.
Q. At what time did he take it out to ride?
Russel. Sometimes in the evening, sometimes in the middle of the day; once he had him out all night.
Q. Had he a saddle and bridle?
Q. to Mr. Ayton. Did you loose a saddle and bridle?
Russel. The saddle was as good as new; he told me his name was Gorsford.
Q. Did you ever see him write his name?
Richard Mason . I am servant to Mr. Ayton. The horse was lost out of a close on the 15th of August, in the night; I turned him out about nine in the evening; I missed him about seven next morning; there were three more horses in the field. I saw the horse again last Friday, at the livery stables, in Hart street, Covent Garden.
Edward Brahan . I took a highwayman upon this horse, on the 8th of October; I went to the sign of the Three Fidlers, at Houghton, near Dartford; I had an information that there was a highwayman in the neighbourhood. I found the prisoner at the Three Fiddlers; I went and told him he was suspected of being a highwayman, and he must go with me; he seemed very agreeable to it. I brought him up to Sir John Fielding 's; he had the horse with him, which is owned by the prosecutor.
I had this horse on the 21st of August, of William Judd , he is a sow gelder; the landlord was with us when he delivered the horse, but he would not own it, because they are both on one side; his name is Thomas Crow , he lives at Enfield Chase. The landlord owned before Sir John, that he saw this man and me together. I am a hundred and fifty miles from home, and have nobody here to my character; the man I bought the horse of has been out of the way ever since.
Guilty , Death .
692. (M.) James Cobham was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling house of John Hockey , on the 21st of Sept. about the hour of seven in the night, and stealing seven silk handkerchiefs, value 23 s. the property of the said John, in his dwelling house , September 21st . +
John Hockey . I am a hosier and haberdasher ; I live in Devonshire street . My house was broke open between seven and eight o'clock; I was in my shop, the glass was suddenly broke, in; I ran out of the shop, and in the street lay a piece of ribbon. I looked in at the hole, and missed some silk handkerchiefs; I could not tell how many: upon examination I missed seven; two of the handkerchiefs hung on aWilliam Blotcham , and William Lewis ; Mr. Blotcham had two of my handkerchiefs, which he said he had taken from the prisoner; one of the prisoners hands was bloody. I took him before Sir John Fielding ; he said there that it was the first offence he had ever committed; he said so again, when he was examined on the Wednesday following.
Q. You say this was between seven and eight o'clock; was it light?
Hockey. No; I had lighted candies some time.
Q. I take it day light was not gone?
Hockey. It was dusk, I could not see without candles; I told the person that drew up the indictment between seven and eight; he set it down seven, he said it was seven till eight o'clock.
Hockey. No; I did not.
William Blotcham . As I was sitting in my own house in King'sgate street, at the top of Gloucester street, I heard the cry of stop thief; I ran out of doors, and by the light of the butcher's shop, opposite me, I saw him running; I saw the butcher throw him down; I lifted him up by the collar, and I saw in his hand two handkerchiefs, and his hand was very bloody, it ran down in drops. (these are the two handkerchiefs, producing them.)
Prosecutor. These are mine, here is my mark upon them, in my own hand writing. I took him to Sir John's, he said it was the first offence he had done, and hoped he should be forgiven; he said he had a wife, at down-lying; he said, on the Wednesday following, he was roving about almost mad for want of money, that his head fell through the window, and the handkerchiefs fell out, and he picked them up; there were five other handkerchiefs I find pick'd up, which a man put in his pocket, and they have never been heard of since. I advertised them, but have not been able to recover them.
William Lewis . I am servant to the butcher that lives at the corner of King'sgate-street. I was standing at my master's shop door about half after seven o'clock, I heard the cry of stop thief; I saw a man coming by on the other side of the way, I missed my catch at him, I told him I would have him, run as fast as he would; I got him, I saw him throw something with his left hand, I saw the motion of his hand, I don't know what it was, I saw something in his hand; Mr. Blotcham came up directly as I had seized him, I went to the Justices on Wednesday, I heard him say, that going along, almost mad for want of money, his head fell through the window, and the handkerchiefs fell out.
I am a bricklayer's labourer ; I had been at Crane-court just by where this accident happened, to ask for a jobb; on coming along a man ran by me, and dropped some things, I halloo'd after him, he made no answer; I stooped to pick up these things, when I had picked them up the man was out of sight; they began crying out stop thief, and I was stopped when I got to the top of the street, and it proved to be two handkerchiefs that I had picked up.
Q. to the prosecutor. How long after you came out of the house was it before you ran down that dark passage?
Hockey. Not above one minute.
Q. Did you see any other man as you was pursuing the prisoner?
Guilty of stealing only , T .
693, 694. (M.) Michael Murray and John Freel were indicted for that they, on the king's highway, on Guitano Menini did make an assault, putting him in corporal fear and danger of his life, and stealing from his person one silver watch, value 40 s. one steel chain, value 4 d. one wooden cane, value 6 d. one amethyst ring set in gold, value 4 l. and 2 s. in money
(The witnesses were examined apart at the request of the prisoners.)
Guitano Menini. I was going to Mount's coffee-house on Friday at eight o'clock; I was near Lord Hertford's house ; a fellow came up and put a pistol to my eye, and said stop, don't he frightened; then three fellows more came up, one stopt me at the back, and one of them took my watch out of my pocket, and they took two shillings and one penny out of my pocket; he broke open my breeches to see for my purse, but I had none about me; another put my finger into this mouth and so took of my ring, an amothyst set in gold; one of them gave me a great blow on my face with a pistol, so that a piece of flesh fell down; then they left me, and I went to Mount's coffee house.
Q. Did you see any of their faces?
Menini. No. I knew the voice of him that held my back to be Murray's; I said so before the Justice; I believe it to be the voice, I can't be certain. I never got any of my things again; there were some pieces of gold produced before Justice Welch, (the pieces of gold produced by Hawthorn the constable.)
Prosecutor. This is the gold of my ring, I am certain from the particular make; I know nothing of the other prisoner.
Richard Delaney . The two prisoners and I and Fotterel, not yet taken, went out on Friday night the 11th of this month; we met at the Eagle in Eagle-street, Red Lyon-square, we went there about four or five o'clock in the evening; Murray and Freel and I went there, and Fotterel met us there: we staid till near six o'clock; we committed two robberies before we had done this Frenchman; we went up towards Marybone, we committed a robbery there; we went then to Oxford-road, and from thence to Hanover-square; we met a gentleman and robbed him there; then we went to another square I don't know the name of; as we were walking along we saw this gentleman, we resolved to attack him; this was about eight o'clock, or might be a little after; he was walking along; there was but one pistol, Freel had it; he walked before him, (we were behind him at first) and he stopped him; he held the pistol to him, and bid him stand and deliver; the old gentleman made a sort of a tussle, and Murray laid hold of him behind and pinioned his arms; he bid him whist, that is hold his tongue, or he would kill him; we could not get the money out of his pockets cleverly, and Fotterel cut the watch out of his pocket with a knife; Freel took hold of his little finger, put it in his mouth, and bit the ring off his finger; when he could get no more, Freel struck him with the pistol in his mouth. I can't tell, whether they took any money, if they got any they did not let me have any share of it. I helped to hold him, I had hold of him by the breast; then we left him and went towards our lodging in Spitalfields. I am a carver by trade; we went to a lodging-house there; we lay there till the next morning. Freel kept the watch till the Sunday morning following and the ring; Freel and I sold the watch on Sunday, with a gold one, to one Saunders a Jew, we got eight guineas for them both together; we divided it between us, two guineas a-piece; I had the ring because they esteemed me the genteelest among them; they asked me to go and sell it, which I agreed to do; Freel gave it me on the Monday, it was a gold ring with a stone with the impression of a head, it was broke in two or three pieces, the stone was out of the socket, I broke it into another piece I think, I went and sold it to a goldsmith in the Borough, I sold it the day he gave it me, on Monday.
Court. Is that silversmith here?
Delaney. No. The two prisoners and I were taken up that night, at the Eagle in Eagle-street.
- Hawthorn. I went with Delaney the accomplice to a silversmith's shop in the Borough, when he saw Delaney he said he believed he was the man that sold it he said he gave 2 s. 3 d. for it; here it is (producing several small pieces of a ring.)
- Gallaway. I was at the ng of the prisoners and Delaney, at the Eagle in Eagle-street; I found them all together; Freel had two pistols in his pocket, one of them was charged, and Murray had one; I don't remember that Delaney had any thing in his pocket; there were some false keys taken out of one of their pockets, I don't remember whose.
James Pomroy . I took this pistol out of Murray's pocket, (producing it) and there were two taken out of Freel's pocket, one was loaded the other was not.
Q. Did you see any picklock keys?
Pomroy. I did not.
The gentleman swares that this watch was taken out of his pocket, the evidence swares it was cut out of his pocket. I was never acquainted with Delaney in my life; I am a silk-weaver by trade, I was just come to town to seek for business.
I know nothing about the matter. Delaney owned before the justice that, the picklocks were found upon him; I have worked as a labourer to a bricklayer, and his business is of such a sort that he is obliged to be running about all day, so that he could not come here
Both Guilty , Death .
695, 696, 697, 698. (M.) John Freel , Mary the wife of John Freel , Rose Keefe , and Michael Murray , were indicted for stealing four wooden drawers, four hundred and eighty copper halfpence, one silver table spoon, one pair of silver shoe-buckles, one silver hat-buckle, one silver stock-buckle set with chrystal stones, two guineas, one quarter guinea, a nine-shilling piece, a six and nine-pence, and 5 l. in money numbered, the property of John Ferquharson , in his dwelling-house , October the 2d . ++
John Ferquharson . I am a victualler , and live in a yard near St. Giles's . Mary Freel , Michael Murray and Mary Delaney came into my house on the 2d of October, between eight and nine at night, along with two fiddles; Murray pretended to be very drunk; they came with the fiddle playing down the court where I live. They danced in the house, and rapped all their hands on the table together to make a noise; they called for liquor to the amount of two shillings and three pence as fast as I could serve them. Rose Keefe came in a little after the music began, she sat down a little while, then she went out, she came back again, and then she went out a second time, then she gave a loud cough at the door, and they all went away except one young man, he staid behind and called for a pot of beer, I don't believe he knew any thing of their design. Murray seemed very sober, I went up stairs and found my bed-chamber door up one pair of stairs broke open, and my bureau which was in that room broke open; I missed upwards of twelve pounds, there were five drawers missing out of the bureau, I found one of the drawers afterwards, as I was shutting my window at the back of my house; there was I believe upwards of two pounds worth of good halfpence, and they took two pounds of bad halfpence; I lost a table-spoon and the rest of the things mentioned in the indictment (repeating them.) I had been up stairs about five o'clock, when I changed the six and nine-pence for a customer. Keefe lodges in my house, upon the same floor as my room that was broke open; Keefe went about, pretending to shew us where the people lived, and she led us wrong; I found nothing again but one guinea and one halfpenny, which I can swear to; they were found in one Mrs. Smith's pocket, who is mother-in-law to Delaney.
Q. So the man that came in drunk, went away sober?
Ferquharson. Yes; he went away sober.
Q. What, he got sober by drinking more liquor?
Ferquharson. I believe he only shammed drunk when he came in, for he soon appeared to be sober.
Thomas Sparks . I found three drawers and a parcel of bad halfpence near Mr. Hammond's brewhouse in Long-acre, on Thursday morning, the morning after the robbery, between three and four o'clock, (the drawers produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
Richard Delaney. Freel's wife and Keefe came to my lodgings about a week before the fact was committed, and said they had a secret to impart to me; that Ferquharson had two or three hundred pounds, and they intendedRichard Fotterel there, I let him into the secret, and he agreed to go with us. Freel, myself, and Fotterel, went to Keefe's room, and Mary Freel was to go for the fidles, Keefe said she had hired Murray for a guinea, to be assisting in the d below; Freel, Murray d the rest of them, began dancing Freel, the husband. h ad a which he broke upon the door; Fotterel, who is a smith had chissels with which he cut away the wood from the the bureau, and so broke it open, then he took out the drawer, one drawer of had and one drawer of good halfpence, and one silver and gold; I saw two guineas only there were more Freel supprested them. Rose Keefe stood at the head of the stairs to watch; she went down once to dance with the people below stairs, and went away towards Earl-street; there we found Murray and Freel's wife; we left the had halfpence in Long, by M. Hammond's brewhouse; Freel had the silver and the two guineas; we asked about all night; at seven in the morning. Murray, Freel, and his wife, Fotterel, and me and my wife, went to the Boot near the Foundling Hospital. where we divided the money; Murray was to have had a guinea, but he had only fifteen or sixteen shillings; Freel and I sold the silver spoon to a Jew, and Freel's wife had the buckle to sell; she said she sold it for eight shillings; I had one guinea and Freel another; I took no particular notice of the guinea, but put it among more money that I had in my pocket; I afterwards gave a guinea and my watch to my wife's mother, Mary Smith .
Catherine Delaney . I am wife of the last witness; my husband told me Mrs. Freel wanted to speak with me; I went to her; she asked me to go and drink with her at Ferquharson's, I went with her, I think the music was there before I came in; Keefe was there only part of the time; Mrs. Freel came down at last and bid them go home, upon which they all went away. I knew nothing at that time of what was doing above stairs. I went to my room: there was my husband, Freel and his wife, and Fotterel; they shuffled about; I was frightened, I suspected there was something wrong among them; I asked my husband what he was going there for with his Irish and, I said I supposed he was going to have us all hanged; my husband upon that struck me several times, and I was obliged to go down stairs. Murray did not go up stairs, he was standing at the door; they came down after they had been up stairs some time; we walked all away together, and we walked about all night.
Q. from Murray. Did not you lie that night in Jackson-alley?
Delaney. I lay there one night; I think it was the night before, we went in the morning halfpence. I was any questions, be- at night.
- Pomroy. This guinea and halfpenny (producing them I had of Mrs. Smith.
Prosecutor. I can swear to that guinea and halfpenny, from particular marks on them.
- Lyon. I am an officer; Keefe went with the prosecutor and me to shew us Delaney's lodgings, but Delaney was not at home.
Margaret Smith. I received a guinea, five shillings in halfpence and silver, and a watch, from my son-in-law Delaney; that guinea and halfpenny, just now produced, is part of the money.
I had no notion that any thing of this kind was forward; I came from Ireland that very day; I am a silk weaver, the business is dead there, and so I came here to seek work. I had a letter for Freel's wife, she asked me to go and drink with her at Ferquharson's; I was in liquor; I wanted Ferquharson to let me have a lodging, but he could not; Freel promised to get me a lodging; she took me to her house, the door being shut, she took me from thence to Delaney's, we could get no lodging there, so we walked about the greatest part of the night; at last I got to a house somewhere in
I know nothing or the robbery; I was called down when the merriment began, by Mr. Delaney; I locked my door and went down; I did not go up again till the house was found out to be robbed.
John Freel's Defence.
I know nothing of the robbery; I had not been in the house for five weeks before this, on account of a quarrel between my mother-in law and me.
Murray came to my house with a letter; I asked him to go and drink with me; we met Mr. Delaney; I intended to get a lodging for him; when I got home to my lodgings, the door was locked; I went from thence to Delaney's lodgings, I could not get a lodging there, so we walked about the street.
Murray, Guilty, Death.
Keefe, Guilty, Death.
699, 700, 701. (M.) William Parker , Ardle Henley , and John Burn , were indicted for that they, on the king's highway, on John Spur did make an assault, putting him in corporal fear and danger of his life, and stealing from his person a tortoiseshell watch, value 40 s. and 8 s. in money numbered, the property of the said John Spur , October the 11th . +
All three acquitted .
702. (L.) John Donaldson was indicted for falsely making, forging, and counterfeiting an inland bill or exchange, purporting to be drawn by Samuel Wells upon Edward Russel , Esq ; on order, for the sum of eight pounds, with intent to defraud Mr. Russel, &c .
The 3d Count for uttering the said bill as true, well knowing it to have been forged. June the 21st . ++
- Wilkins. I am a shoemaker in Leaden-hall-street, On Saturday the 6th of July the prisoner came to my shop, and bought a pair of boots and two pair of shoes; he gave me this bill of 8 l. (producing it) and desired me to give him the difference. I looked over the bill, and saw it was accepted; and as it had but a few days to run, I gave him 6 l. 7 s. which was the difference. I sent the bill to my banker, and their clerk received the money for it, the day it was due, of Mr. Russel's partner, on the Monday following, and Mr. Russel and hi-partner came to me, and told me it was a forged bill, and desired to know whom I had of. I told them I had it of Donaldson, one of the clerks at St. Thomas's Hospital . I said I would go with them to make enquiry after him: we went to the hospital, and were informed that the prisoner had been dismissed some weeks, and they knew nothing of him: he was taken some weeks after. I paid Mr. Russel the 8 l. again, as being the last indorser on the bill. We had some dispute about it; but we agreed to refer it to Mr. Boulton and Mr. Cruttenden : they determined that I should pay Mr. Russell the 8 l. which I did.
Court. Then it is a settled point, is it? and will make no difference, let this cause turn as it may?
Wilkins. No; it is settled.
Q. You knew the prisoner, did not you?
Wilkins. I had seen him at the counting-house, at the hospital, when I have paid my rent, or I should not have taken the bill or him; I knew him to be a clerk there.
Q. You say you have paid Mr. Russell, and settled the matter?
Q. Is there no condition at all upon which you are to receive the money back from Mr. Russell?
Wilkins. None at all.
( The bill is read.)
Greenwich, 21 June, 1771.
"Twenty days after date pay to Mr. James
"Rogers, or to his order, the sum of eight
"pounds, for value received of Mr. Roger
"Mohleat, of London.
Edw. Russell , Esq. This bill (taking it in his hand) is counterfeited; this is not my acceptance; I never wrote my name in that manner in my life; there is no part of the bill my writing.
Q. Has there never been any transaction between the prisoner and you?
Russell. No; I never remembered having seen him till before the Justice; then I supposed I must have seen him at the hospital. I know nothing of the drawer; it is all a mere fiction.
Q. Was it not paid by your partner?
Russell. My partner, as I am informed, was sitting at a desk; the banker's clerk brought the bill, and he laid out the money for it; mine is all home trade; I never had a bill drawn upon me in my life.
Q. You live near St. Thomas's Hospital?
Russell. Yes, at the Bridge foot; and I have the honour to be a governor; the prisoner might have seen me write my name.
Court. Does it resemble your hand-writing?
Russell. The flourish is the contrary way to what I write my name.
Court. Do you know any circumstances in his favour, to know whether he did know of its being forged or not? Do you know any thing further about it?
Russell. I have some letters sent by him.
Q. Do you know that they are his handwriting?
Russell. I don't know his hand-writing.
( Four letters produced.)
Richard Leeson . All these letters are the prisoner's hand-writing. [The four letters are read; in all of which, he acknowledges his guilt, professes penitence, and begs that Mr. Russell would not appear against.]
Abraham Mason . I am servant to Mr. Wilkins: I served the prisoner with a pair of boots and two pair of shoes : when I had agreed with him for the price, he desired to speak to my master; I called my master; the prisoner said he had a little note upon Mr. Russell, and asked my master if he could give him change for it; my master read it, and said he would, and went backwards and brought the change, and gave it the prisoner. I did not examine the note, therefore I cannot swear to it.
I went to see Mr. Astley ride at his school at Westminster-bridge, about the latter end of last June; about eight o'clock, when the riding was over, I went to the New-Inn; I went into a room, in which a gentleman was drinking punch; I sat down and called for six penny-worth of punch: in about ten minutes a third person came in, and called for something: we entered into conversation together: he understood that I lived in the Borough; he asked me if I knew one Mr. Russell : I told him, yes; he said he was going into Yorkshire; that he had received a bill of 8 l. at Greenwich, which he would be obliged to me to discount, if it suited me. I saw it wanted but a fortnight of being due. From the address of the man, and its being so small a sum, and seeing the name of Mr. Russell to it, I had no doubt about it; and I readily gave him cash for it, upon the receiving two shillings for the discount: he indorsed it in the name of John Winter , under, I believe, two indorsements which were there before. After I had kept the bill in my possession five or six days, I went to Mr. Wilkins, who had served me with shoes before. I paid away the bill to him, and received the difference in cash, and I indorsed my name under that of John Winter . Three or four days after, I was arrested for a debt of 40 l. and carried to the Poultry Compter. When I was first charged on suspicion of having forged this draft, I did not know that I could produce any of the people that were there at the time I gave cash for it, but I have a witness or two that saw the transaction.
For the Prisoner.
Q. Do you remember the prisoner being there, and there being any thing pass about a note?
Williams. I remember, at the latter end of July, two gentlemen were in the room with Mr. Donaldson; one of them was dressed in blue and gold: he desired me to go and get change for a guinea, which I did. Mr. Donaldson has told me since that he gave that gentleman cash for a note of 8 l.
Joseph Berresford . I am a working jeweller, and live at Hammersmith. I have seen Mr. Donaldson several times, and have drank with him. I was in company with him at Astley's riding school: from thence I went with him to the public house, and there I saw some money with regard to a note. I was a little how come you so, I believe; it was for eight guineas. There was a gentleman there in white, and another in blue clothes.
Q. Do you recollect what the money was paid for?
Berresford. I believe something in regard to a note; and I believe there was a bottle of wine given by the prisoner; but I will not be positive.
Q. Was Williams there?
Berresford. I believe he might be.
Q. to Williams. Did you see this man there?
Williams. I believe he was in the room at that time: I have seen him there before.
Court. Was you subpoena'd here last sessions?
Q. When was you subpoena'd to come here?
Williams. Last Tuesday morning.
Clerk of the Arraigns. This subpoena was served this morning, or late last night.
Williams. I believe I received it at half an hour after ten last night.
Guilty Death .
William Askham . I was in Guildhall , on Monday the 30th of September, between eleven and twelve o'clock. Mr. Payne came up and bid me feel in my pocket if I had not lost something; I put my hand in my pocket, and missed my handkerchief; he said if I would follow him he would shew me the man; I turned about and saw Payne had seized the prisoner by the collar; he took him up into the hall, and threw him down on his back; the handkerchief was concealed between his waistcoat and his breeches, (produced and deposed to.)
William Payne . I was at Guildhall. I observed the prisoner some time; I suspected him and watched him narrowly. I saw the prisoner put his hand into somebody's pocket; he turned away and seemed to be tucking something into his breeches. I went up and asked the gentleman if either of them had lost a handkerchief; the prosecutor felt in his pocket, and said he had; I went and throwed up the prisoner's heels, and I took the handkerchief from under his waistcoat, tucked into the waistband of his breeches.
I picked the handkerchief off the ground.
704. (M.) Ann Akerman , spinster , was indicted for stealing one silver watch, value 3 l. and six guineas, one half guinea, one quarter of a guinea, and four shillings and eleven pence halfpenny in money, numbered , the property of John Whelan September 22d . *
John Whelan . I picked up the prisoner, in Oxford road; after drinking with her, at several houses, I went home with her to her lodgings; that we went to bed together, that about one in the morning she got up and gave her landlady the candle; then I got up and locked the door. I got into bed again, and we went to sleep together. I waked about two o'clock in the morning, the prisoner was gone, and I missed the money out of my breeches pocket; I am certain my money was in my pocket when I went to bed. The prisoner was taken up the next day, but nothing was found upon her. I am positive she is the woman.
Guilty of stealing only . T .
705. (M.) William Wilkinson and John Barnsley were indicted for that they, on the king's highway, on William Chapman did make an assault, putting him in corporal fear and danger of his life, and stealing from his person one silk handkerchief, value 3 s. four guineas, one half guinea, and one silver dollar, value 4 s. and 6 d. the property of the said William , Sept. 26th .
The prosecutor was called but not appear. Both Acquitted .
708, 709. (M.) Elizabeth Pugh , the younger , and Elizabeth Pugh , the elder , were indicted, the first for stealing two silver spoons, value 2 s. and 6 d. the property of John Patterson , and the other for receiving them, well knowing them to have been stolen , Oct. 15th . ++
Both acquitted .
710, 711. (M.) James Gilbert and James Green were indicted, the first for stealing forty eight iron bolts, value 8 s. and forty-eight iron nutts, value 4 s. and the other for receiving eighteen bolts, value 3 s. and eighteen nuts, value 1 s. and 6 d. the property of John Boyce , October 4th . ++
Both Acquitted .
712. (M.) Mary the wife of John Hall was indicted for receiving 17 lb. of bread, value 2 s. and 5 d. two china sawcers, value 1 s. one scrubbing brush, value 6 d, and a towel, value 2 d. well knowing them to have been stolen by James Leppenwell , the property of Robert Drummond , Aug. 29th . ++
See the last Sessions.
" Robert Drummond , the prosecutor, deposed that he is a baker , that Leppenwell was his servant, that he had missed bread several times, that he accordingly watched the prisoner, and that on Thursday he got up early in the morning, that he heard a noise two or three times as the window shutter, about six o'clock, that he went and stood upon the stairs, that he saw Leppenwell set four loaves on the shop window; then he opened the door; she came in, and he put four quartern loaves into her apron, and then pushed her out at the door. He immediately ran down, naked as he was, and brought her back, and found the loaves in apron.
I am wife to Leppenwell. I went to his master's shop for a couple of loaves; I had some loaves, but I was not out of the shop. He was indebted to my husband thirteen shillings. My first husband's name was John Hall; after he died I married Leppenwell.
Q. to Prosecutor. Did you owe this Leppenwell two weeks wages?
Drummond. No; he was paid every Saturday. He lost a great quantity of bread the Saturday before, and therefore I did not pay him; I paid him the preceding Saturday. She is not the wife of Leppenwell.
Guilty , T. 14 years .
713. (M.) Sarah Smith was indicted for stealing a watch, the inside case, gold, the outside pinchbeck, value 5 l. one silver seal, value 4 s. one cloth waistcoat, value 3 s. one pair of silver shoe buckles, value 10 s. three guineas, one half guinea, one quarter of a guinea, and 3 s. and 6 d. in money numbered, the property of Alexander Garner , in the dwelling-house of a person unknown , May 17th .
Thomas Smeeton , Sept. 22d .
Elizabeth Smeeton . I am wife of Thomas Smeeton , a hosier and haberdasher , in East Smithfield . The prisoner and another man came into our shop, on the 22d of September, about nine o'clock in the morning; while I was serving the other man, the prisoner went into my back room; I could see him in the room, and I watched him all the time; he walked round the room, and then he went to the glass and seemed to admire himself: he came out in two or three minutes, and said your tea-kettle boils over, I will take it off. I said pray let it stand, it will do no harm. He went into the back room again, I saw him take the kettle off, and then he went towards the beaufet; I saw him put his hand to his pocket, but I did not see what he took. He came out in about a minute; the other man paid for his stockings, and they both went away. I went to the beaufet and missed the the spoon immediately; I had just wiped the spoon and put it in the beaufet before I went to serve them. (the spoon produced and deposed to.) I went immediately into the street and alarmed the neighbourhood; the prisoner was taken and brought into my house; we were going to search him, but the prisoner pulled out the spoon and gave it to me; he desired we would let him go.
"The prisoner said, in his defence, he knew nothing of the spoon till they got into the street; the young man that was with him shewed him the spoon; that he took the spoon from him, and was going to return it to the prosecutor, when he was taken into custody, and charged with stealing it.
Guilty , T .
715. (M.) William Roberts was indicted for stealing four yards of black velvet, value 20 s. three dimity waistcoats, value 8 s. and one yard of broad cloath, value 10 s. the property of Alexander Irwin , Sept. 2d .
Alexander Irwin . I am a taylor , and live in Little Wylde-street, Lincoln's Inn fields ; the prisoner worked for me and lodged in my house; he left his lodgings on the 15th of August last. I missed two dimity waistcoats on the 20th; I suspected him, and got a search warrant, but I could not find him; about a fortnight, after I missed four yards of Manchester velvet, and a yard and three eighths of broad cloth. I then made fresh enquiry after him; and I took him myself in Brook's Mews; he confessed soon after that he had stolen my goods, and said he would make me satisfaction. Two of the waistcoats were at the White-Horse lane, at Mr. Bradley's; he went with the constable and me to Mr. Bradley's.
- Bradley. About two months ago I bought two white waistcoats of a man, who is, I believe, the prisoner at the bar.
I did it. Guilty , T .
Jefferry Jenread. I am servant to Mr. Walker. The prisoner came to my master's, and bought some handkerchiefs; my master sent me with them, and a bill and receipt; the prisoner was to send the money back by me. The prisoner led me across a field, first to the Foundling Hospital; then he went to Bagnigge Wells; the prisoner staid half an hour there, playing at nine pins, I waited all the time with the handkerchiefs under my arm; the prisoner bid me go into the house and get some biscuits, and he said he would hold the bundle the while: I would not give it him: as I turned round from him, to fetch the biscuits, the prisoner snatched at the bundle; but I kept it fast; he kept me till almost dark; then the prisoner went across the fields towards Smithfield, as I understand; at last I got near some water works; the prisoner seemed surprized, and said he had lost his gloves, and he believed they were tied up in the top of the parcel; he opened it, but the gloves were not there; then he ran away with the parcel as fast as he could. I ran after him, but he out-ran me; so I lost him.
Joseph Walker . The prisoner came to my shop; he first bargained for seven handkerchiefs, and I sent them by my boy along with him; he returned soon, and said he liked them so well he would have six more; so I wrapped up thirteen handkerchiefs and gave them to my lad to carry home; I gave him a bill and receipt, and ordered him to bring back the money; the prisoner said he lived but just by. About seven in the evening Mr. Bonner, a g in Oxford-road, sent for me, and informed me he had taken up a man for a fraud upon him, who he understood had robbed me, and that the man was before Justice Lane. I w Justice Lane, and there I found the prisoner had my handkerchiefs. The prisoner acknowledged that he took the handkerchiefs from the boy and that he did it in order to pay loan debts he owed, (the handkerchiefs produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
"The prisoner said in his defence, that the boy and he carried the handkerchiefs alternately; that the boy urged him to make haste, as it grow late; that he accordingly set up a run; that after he had run some way, he turned round to look for the boy, and had lost him. He called William Hassell , Samuel Mitchel , and - Tireman his uncle, who all gave him a good character."
Guilty , T .
Grace Chandler . I lost the sight of one of my eyes, I went for relief to St. George's hospital, I was there about six weeks; the prisoner was a patient there when I went in, she left the hospital before me; she took a lodging at one Mr. Green's, in Down street, Piccadilly ; I went to lodge with her. I went out on Monday the 20th of August between eleven and twelve o'clock at noon; I left the prisoner at home. I returned home between eight and nine at night; the prisoner was gone, and I missed the things mentioned in the indictment. I could hear nothing of her till a fortnight afterwards Elizabeth Tilley brought her to me, I charged a constable with her; she said if I would let her go, I should have my cloaths again, and she would pay me twelve shillings and six-pence I had lent her. She confessed before the Justice that she had pawned the gown at Mr. Master's in Holborn, and the linen at Mr. Murthwaite's in Oxford-road; I went with her to the pawnbrokers, there I found my goods.
(The goods deposed to by the prosecutrix.)
"The prisoner said in her defence, that she intended to restore the goods again to the prosecutrix.
Guilty , B .
718 (M.) Susannah Lunn , otherwise Wood , was indicted for stealing one bolster, value 2 s. two pillows, value 2 s. two blankets, value 3 s. one linen sheet, value 1 s. two green curtains, value 3 s. one looking glass, value 2 s. one copper saucepan, and twenty pounds of feathers, value 20 s. being in a certain lodging-room, let by contract to the said Susannah , March the 30th .
Mrs. Davidson. My husband, Alexander Davidson , is a hosier ; he lives in East Smithfield . The prisoner came into our shop on the 11th of October, at about seven at night; he cheapened a great many stockings; he asked the price of one pair of stockings, I told him four shillings and six-pence; he said very well, and gave them to a man in company with him, who ran away; I pursued him, but he got quite away.
Q. from Prosecutor. Had not I six shillings and six-pence in my pocket?
I work hard for my living; I intended to pay for the stockings; I went to the door to see after the other man and he was gone; I felt in my pocket and found it had been pick'd; I went after him. I am quite innocent.
Guilty , T .
Henry Bodicoat . I have a house at Brompton as assignee to William Rose , a bankrupt. On the 10th instant Morris Bird came to me, and informed me that he had man with some lead upon his shoulder, belonging to the house I had the charge of, and desired me to appear before the Justice.
Morris Bird . I am a watchman. On the 7th of October, about five in the morning, while I was crying the hour, I saw the prisoner loaded; I stopt him, and said you have got some lead; he said it was the first time and desired I would not hurt him. I took him into custody; I took the lead to the house at Brompton, and it matched the place the lead was taken from.
I found the lead at the back of the house.
Guilty . T .
Robert Vale . I lost my handkerchief in Guildhall on the 2d of October. I turned round and missed my handkerchief; the prisoner, who stood near me, was secured, and my handkerchief was taken upon him.
William Payne . I saw the prisoner and another in Guildhall on the 2d of October; there was a gentleman lost his handkerchief. I seized the other man, the prisoner got out of the hall; I followed him and secured him, and this handkerchief was found upon him; he said it was his own, (produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
Guilty , T .
John Howard . I am a vintner in Smithfield ; the prisoner lodged at my house for about ten nights. As I was going up stairs last Tuesday, I met him; when I went into the prisoner's room I miss'd a sheet from his bed. I immediately pursued him, an overtook him when he had got about two hundred yards; I searched him, and he had my sheet wrapped round his body, (The sheet produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
I am not guilty; I never saw the sheet; I have no witnesses here now.
Guilty, 10 d .
- Clark. I am servant to Mr. Davidson. I had taken this gown in to pledge about an hour before the prisoner came into the shop; I missed the gown soon after he was gone; nobody was in the shop besides the prisoner at the time. I found it at Mrs. Read's.
Elizabeth Read . I live in Fetter-lane; the prisoner pledged this with me for six shillings, on the 19th of last month. between six and seven in the evening, (the gown produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
I met a countrywoman of mine, she asked me to pawn this gown for her.
Samuel Russel to his character, who knew nothing of him lately.
Guilty , T .
James Powell . I am a carman. I had been to Mr. Kenton's to bring home an iron-bound hogshead and an iron-bound barrel on the 20th of September. I put them out of my cart at the end of the lane, and went to put my horses into the stable; I met the prisoner rolling the hogshead by my master's door, about forty yards from where I had left it. I pursued him; when he saw me, he run away; I got up to him and secured him; he desired I would let him go, and he would roll the hogshead back again and treat me with some beer. I took him to my master, who charged a constable with him.
I was coming along and found the case in the road; I set it up against a post till the owner might find it; I did not roll it twenty yards. I have sent for my friends; they are not here. I am a cooper.
Guilty , T .
726. (L.) Daniel Miller was indicted for stealing six canvas bags, value 3 s. and six hundred and sixty-seven pounds of white ginger, value 16 l. the property of John William Cox , being in a certain lighter on the navigable river the River Thames , August the 30th . *
There was no evidence to affect the prisoner but the accomplice.
728. (M.) Ann Beane and Mary Bateman were indicted for that they, on the king's highway, on William Ackman did make an assault, putting him in corporal fear and danger of his life, and stealing from his person one cloth coat, value 10 s. two linen waistcoats, value 3 s. three linen shirts, value 7 s. three pair of worstead stockings, value 3 s. one silver watch, value 50 s. and three shillings in money numbered, the property of the said William , October the 2d . *
Both Acquitted .
729. (M.) Joseph Wade was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Christopher Warcup , on the 29th of September , about the hour of three in the afternoon, (no person being therein) and stealing one cloth coat, value 3 s. one cloth waistcoat, value 2 s. one flannel waistcoat, value 1 s. 6 d. one cotton shirt, value 6 d. one linen counterpane, value 1 s. one linen neckcloth, value 1 s. one linen handkerchief, value 6 d. three linen aprons, value 2 s. one copper tea-kettle, value 3 s. and one piece of beef, value 6 d. the property of the said Christopher, and one surtout coat, value 2 s. the property of John Phillips , in the dwelling-house of Christopher Warcup , +
Q. Is it your dwelling-house?
Warcup. My wife and I live in this apartment, we dress our victuals and lie there, nobody has any thing else to do with this apartment but me. My wife and I went out about two in the afternoon; I double-locked the door and padlocked it. My wife and I returned between seven and eight in the evening; I found my door a-jar, the staple that served for the padlock was wrench'd off, and the staple belonging to the spring-lock was forced into theJane Ford , a servant to Mr. Roberts, informed me that she had seen Joe, meaning the prisoner, whom she knew very well, as he had worked upon the wharf five or six weeks, go by between three and four o'clock with a bundles I knew that the prisoner lodged at the Hat and Feather just by; I got a constable and went there directly, he was not there then; I went about a quarter of an hour after and saw the prisoner. Jane Ford came in, and said she would swear he was the man she had seen go out of the yard with a bundle. I observed the neckcloth he had on appeared cleaner than his shirt, I suspected it was mine, I insisted upon seeing it, and I said, if it is mine it has a W in the middle; it was taken off and it had my mark on it, and is one of the things lost out of my room. I took him the next day before Sir John Fielding ; he said my things were at a public house (I don't recollect the sign) in Goodman's-fields. I went there with some of Sir John Fielding 's people next day; there I found all the things except the neckcloth and the piece of beef; he begged of me to be merciful to him. He said before Sir John, that he met a man who desired him to carry the things to Whitechapel for him.
Jane Ford. I am servant to Mr. Roberts. I have seen the prisoner several times on the wharf. I was standing on the wharf on Sunday, between three and four o'clock in the afternoon; I saw the prisoner with a large bundle under his left arm, wrapped in a blue coat the sleeve of which hung down; he was, when I saw him, about fifty yards from Mr. Warcup's house; I could not see his house where I stood; if I had been about ten yards further, I should have been in sight of the prosecutor's house. The prisoner, when I saw him, appeared as if coming from Mr. Warcup's house; this was while the family was at church. I had stood there about ten minutes before I saw the prisoner.
Q. Did you see any other person there?
Ford. No; I saw no other person whatever. Mr. Warcup came home between seven and eight o'clock; he came to my master's, and called for a candle, and said his door was broke open: I went with him, and I saw that the staple was forced out, and the padlock was gone. Mr. Warcup said a blue-coat was go; then I mentioned to him that I had seen the prisoner go out of the yard with a bundle wrapped up in a blue coat. I saw the prisoner that evening at the Hat and Feathers; and I am sure he is the same man that I saw with the bundle.
Eliz. Gastleton. I keep the White Hart in Goodman's Fields; the prisoner and another man came to my house on the 29th of September, between four and five o'clock in the afternoon; the prisoner had a bundle upon his arm, with a blue coat upwards; he laid them down on the table in the tap-room; they sat and drank about half an hour, and they had a piece of beef, about pound or a pound and an half, on the table before them: the prisoner desired me to take care of the things till the next day. when he would call for them : he said that his wife and he had had some words, and he had brought some of his own things, and a few of her's: he gave them me: then he said there was a gentleman that lived in the neighbourhood, who would lend him a guinea, but he was not at home, and asked me to lend him 6 s. which I did, and he said he would bring me the money in the morning, and would take the things away. When Mr. Warcup came with the prisoner, I asked him if the goods, were stolen he said, No; it was only a little quarrel. One of the gentlemen said, No, don't deceive any one; they are stolen.
Q. to Prosecutor. Did you say it was only a quarrel?
Warcup. I did say so as the prisoner desired I would not expose him.
Prosecutor. The coat was left in my care by Mr. Phillips: the rest of the goods I can swear are mine, excepting the womens apparel.
[ The womens apparel was deposed to by the prosecutor's wife.]
I went to a vault by the wharf; a man came by the place with a bundle under his arm, which he asked me to carry to Whitechapel or Goodman's Fields; he said he would
Guilty Death .
730. (M.) Frederick Wilkie was indicted for the wilful murder of John Snoakes by giving him with a knife, upon the upper part of the back, between his shoulders, immortal wound, of the length of one inch and an half, and the depth of three: of which he languished from the 7th of September to the 17th September, and then died . He also stood charged on the coroner's inquisition with the said murder. +
Sarah Lewis . I am landlady of the Coach and Horses in Palace-yard, Westminster : many coachmen water their horses at my house: the prisoner came into my house with two women: he came up to the bar, and asked for a glass of shrub for each of the women. I served them with the shrub. Snoakes the deceased who was a hackney coachman came in about this time: when the women had drank their shrub, the prisoner threw down three pence three farthings upon the bar for the liquor: I told him there wanted a farthing; the prisoner said he had no more, and would give me no money. Snoakes was sitting at the side of the bar: he said, Why don't you pay my mistress the farthing? Upon that the prisoner gave Snoakes a shove, by which he was near falling into the cellar.
Q. Describe the situation of your house.
Lewis. You come down steps into the house, and then your go a little way up to the bar. and the cellar stairs are near the bar. Upon the prisoner's shoving Snoakes in that manner, Snoakes struck him on the head on face; the prisoner returned the blow, and then passed about three blows between them. Reynolds, the man that waters the horses, came in much about this time; he endeavoured to keep order, and he bid the prisoner go about his business, or he would charge the watch with him; upon that, the prisoner and the two woman went away. I could not see the prisoner go out at the door, as I stood at the bar but I suppose he did not go out, Snoakes staid talking to me; he complained that the prisoner had broke his whip. In about two minutes after the prisoner was gone, Snoakes left the bar, and went out, as I thought to go home in about two minutes, Snoakes came into the house again, and said he was stabbed, and that he had received his death's wound from the foreigner; he took off his coat, and I noticed that the back of his shirt was bloody and I saw the wound between his shoulders. A surgeon was sent for, who came in a few minutes; before the surgeon came, Reynolds and Styles brought the prisoner back into the house.
The Second Part of these Proceedings will be published in a few Days.
In the Eleventh Year of His MAJESTY's Reign. Being the Eighth SESSION in the MAYORALTY of The Right Honourable BRASS CROSBY, Esq; LORD-MAYOR of the CITY of LONDON.
NUMBER VIII. PART II.
Sold by T. EVANS, No. 54, in PATER-NOSTER ROW.
King's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol-Delivery, held for the City of LONDON, &c.
Q. DID the deceased interrupt the prisoner as he was going out?
Lewis. I did not see him do any thing to prevent his going out.
Thomas Twine . I stopt at the coach and horses between twelve and one that night to water my horses. I saw the prisoner, the deceased, and two women standing by the side of the bar; the prisoner and Snoakes were disputing about the farthing; Snoakes said nothing more than this; why don't you pay my mistress the farthing, he might, perhaps, call him dirty fellow; the prisoner said I have no money and will pay no more; he then offered to go towards the door, and Snoakes stood at the door, and he lifted up his elbow, as if he meant to prevent the prisoner's going out, without paying the farthing: the prisoner, upon this, struggled with Snoakes to get out of the house, and in the struggle Snoakes's whip was broke; Snoakes said I am sorry you have broke my whip, for I have had it two or three years; immediately upon that, Snoakes struck the prisoner a blow on the side of his head, over his eye, so that some blood ran down his cheek; the prisoner returned it, by giving him a punch on the belly, which would have knocked him down the cellar, but he caught hold of the cellar door, which is about three yards from the street door. At this time Reynolds came in, and asked what the disturbance was about, and he told them that if they did not go out of the house he would charge the watch with them; upon that, the two girls said that the prisoner was a substantial man, and lived next door to the Crown, on the other side of the bridge. He laid hold of his arm and led him: out of doors; Snoakes staid at the bar with me a minute or two: I asked him if he would go home, he said he would; we both went out together, both our coaches were at the door. I was getting up upon the box, and as Snoakes was about getting upon his box, I heard a voice, which appeared to be the prisoner's, calling out, come here, and I will pay you for your whip. I looked and saw the prisoner and the two girls about twelve or fourteen yards from the door of the Coach and Horses, crossing Palace Yard, in the direction to the passage that goes in to Bridge street; so that he was standing in the
Q. How soon did the deceased fall after the prisoner got up to him?
Twine. He fell the moment the prisoner got up to him.
Richard Reynolds . I am the watering man. I was not in the house when the prisoner and Snoakes went into the Coach and Horses. I heard the prisoner and Snoakes have words together, so I went into the house, to put an end to the disturbance. I bid them all go about their business, or I would charge the watch with them. I took the prisoner by the arm, and led him out of the house. I did not see any blows pass in the house; Snoakes staid about two minutes after the prisoner was gone out, and then he gave me a penny, and bid me good night. He was just putting his foot upon the wheel, in order to get upon the box, when I heard a voice call out, come here, and I will pay you for your whip. Snoakes got down and went forward to where the voice came from, at that time I observed a man and two women standing in Palace Yard, about twelve or fourteen yards from Snoakes's coach; they were standing still, and as Snoakes got up to him the women went away; the horses interposed, so that I could not not see him when he got close to the prisoner; but within two minutes, from the time of his leaving the coach, in order to go up to the man, I saw Snoakes returning, holding his hand upon his breast, and calling out to stop the man, for he had received his death's wound; at the same time I saw the man running away. Twine and Styles ran to the corner of the yard after him; I ran through the passage into Bridge street; as soon as I got into Bridge street I saw the prisoner walking along, and Styles was close behind him; he laid hold of him, presently after I joined him, and we took him to the Coach and Horses; there we found Snoakes. I searched the prisoner, and found only some brass work about him . The deceased said I am bleeding to death, and he said you are a villain, pointing to the prisoner; and he said that if he had broke his leg or his arm, he could have forgiven him, but now it would deprive his family of his assistance, if his life was to go; and he said that the prisoner was the man that wounded him; the prisoner was by when he said this, and made no answer to it.
Q. Had not the prisoner a wound in his face before he went out of the house?
Reynolds. There was a cut over his eye as if it had been done with a knuckle; three days afterwards I saw the prisoner, and he had a black eye; the prisoner was searched at the watch-house; and there was a knife found upon him.
Joseph Styles . I went into the yard a little before one o'clock; I bid the waterman water my horses; I stood by to see it done; I heard a disturbance in the house; I did not go in directly; presently I saw the prisoner come out and the two women; I walked, I believe, ten or twenty yards from the Coach and Horses. door, towards the passage that goes into Bridge-street;
Q. Are you sure of that?
Styles. Yes; I am positive.
Court. Be very sure of what you say.
Styles. I am very sure of it. John Snoakes put his foot upon the wheel, in order to get upon his box to go home. I was going to do the same. I heard the prisoner call out, come here, and I will pay you for your whip.
Q. How do you know it was the prisoner?
Styles. There was no other man in the yard as I could see; the deceased walked to him; one of them dropt immediately as he came up to him; I could not see which.
Q. Did you see the deceased all the way till he came up to him?
Styles. Yes; quite close to him, as near as I can guess.
Q. Did you observe whether Snoakes turned about, or had his back towards you or the man?
Styles. I will not pretend to say that; I obobserved one fall the moment Snoakes came up to him.
Q. Could not you tell whether it was the man that stood still, or he that walked up to him, that fell?
Styles. They both stood still, and then one immediately fell. I heard Snoakes then cry out (for I knew it was his voice) Stop him, for God's sake, for he has stabbed me with a knife. I immediately ran after the prisoner, to the farther end of Palace-yard. He crawled up that high part, and ran towards the Bridge. I struck a blow at him, but I missed him; then I seized him by the collar: he was stronger than me, and made from me; then I got hold of him again, and then Twine and Reynolds came up and laid hold of him: we took him to the Coach and Horses: he was not willing to go into the house; Twine pulled him in, and Snoakes met him at the door, with his hands to his breast; and he said to the prisoner, O you bloody minded man! you have murdered me! blood for blood! We had a hard matter to keep him from the prisoner, as he wanted to attack him. The prisoner made no answer to that, but looked very sulky: he never spoke a word to me. The watchmen took him to the watch-house. I went there soon afterwards. I saw Mr. Wilson the surgeon take the knife out of his right side breeches-pocket. [A clasp knife, the blade about five inches long, was produced by Mr. Wilson the constable.] This is the knife. Here is blood upon it: the blood appeared fresh at that time; it stuck together so that Mr. Wylde could hardly open it; a good deal of the blood is wore off; some is on now: I tried to open it; but it stuck so fast that I could not open it; Mr. Wilson asked him a question or two; but could get nothing out of him; it was as much as we could do to get out of him where he lived.
John Wilson . I was constable of the night; on the 7th of September, about one o'clock in the morning, Twine, Reynolds, and a watchman or two, brought the prisoner into the watch-house: as soon as he came in, he sat down, very sulky: Mr. Twine had a shirt in his hand, all over bloody, and he said the prisoner had murdered Snoakes. I searched him as he sat, and took this knife out of his right breeches pocket; it was shut, and all over blood for about two inches and an half high.
Q. Was it fresh blood, or had it been there some time?
Wilson. It was rather dry; it had a shining colour, and looked quite fresh. I could hardly get him to tell his name. When I took the knife from him, I asked him if he had any more of those sort of weapons; he said, No. I went to the Coach and Horses, and there were two bundles in different papers, and some pieces of cast brass.
Q. Did you observe any raw meat in the handkerchief?
Wilson. No; I did not examine the bundles.
Margaret Snoakes . I am the deceased's widow. The first night he came home he was not sensible; he desired me a few days afterwards not to wash his shirt; he said that no blows had ensued at the time the accident happened: he was sensible when he said this and was so for about a week.
Court. Was he sensible when he said that no blow passed at the time he received the wound?
Snoakes. Yes; he said that about four days before he died.
Mr. Jessamin. I was called to the deceased on the 7th of September, about one in the morning;
Q. Do you mean a pointed as well as cutting instrument?
Jessamin. It is hardly possible to say, because of the breadth of the wound. The wound passed across from the right side to the left, where it went in to a considerable depth I found it necessary to dilate it, which I did immediately, in order, if possible, to discover the nature of the injury; with my finger I felt the rib bare at the bottom of the wound; there was a prodigious quantity of blood flowing from the wound; from which circumstances, and the depth of the wound. I judged that it might have penetrated the cavity of the chest. I could not be certain of this point at that time. I desired to see the instrument with which the wound was inflicted, as I might form some prognostic from that; but it could not be produced at that time. I saw the deceased again the next day.
Q. Did you observe any cut in his shirt?
Jessamin. There was a cut in his coat and waistcoat corresponding to the wound. I attended him regularly, and finding his pulse raged, I continued to bleed him and keep him low. I imagined there was mischief within. In the course of this treatment, I separated some splinters of bone that I found loose in the wound. On the Friday after he received the wound, bad symptoms increased very fast upon him. Imagining there was a wound in the lungs, I desired a physician might be called in, and Dr. Morris attended him: he grew worse, and died on Tuesday the 17th of September. I opened the body after his decease, in the presence of Dr. Morris, and several pupils belonging to my hospital. On opening the cavity of the chest on that side where the wound was received, the plura, or membrane that lines the chest, was full of dusky inflammation; bordering upon what we call gangrene. I raised up the lungs, and perceived at the back part of the thorax a wound entering in and passing the membrane of the plura; and upon the superior lobe of the lungs, on the left side, there was a small wound.
Q. Is it your opinion that this wound was the occasion of his death?
Jessamin. In my opinion it was.
Q. Do you think such a knife as that might have occasioned the wound?
Q. Can you form an idea what situation the body was in when it received the wound?
Jessamin. I can't say that.
Q. Could such a wound be made if the parties were standing face to face?
Jessamin. I should imagine it very difficult, if the person's back was not turned. I think it most likely that the deceased's back was turned when the wound was given; it must be a very tall man else to inflict the wound in that manner.
Q. Was the deceased taller or shorter than the prisoner?
Jessamin. I believe about the same size.
[Note, the prisoner was rather short.]
Q In what condition was he as to his understanding?
Jessamin. His understanding was sufficiently free, till within three days of his death.
I went from home to Chiswell-street, Moorfields, to Alexander's foundery, and fetched some brass, which I was to use for Mr. Cox's work in Shoe-lane. I bought a piece of beef in Clare-market, of a out 5 or 6 lb. I had a pair of leather breeches I had fetched from cleaning; when I came to the corner of Parliament-street, with my bundle in my hand, two girls came to me and asked me to give them something to drink. I agreed to it, and they took me to the Coach and Horses; they had a glass of something; I had a farthing too little for the reckoning; I told the landlady, when I came that way again I would make her a recompence; she seemed very agreeable; when I turned about there was the coachman leant against the wainscot opposite the bar; he called me names, and said, How dare you come here to treat girls, and have no money? and things to that purpose. I said, What is that to you? He gave me a blow directly, and the blood burst over my clothes; the blood is now upon my coat and waistcoat, and the fear is in my face; the girls cried out, The gentleman
For the Prisoner.
Christian Anschob . I come from Brunswick; I am a gunsmith, and live by Newport-market. I went to visit the prisoner; he was committed on Friday, I went on Sunday; his eyes were beat almost out of his head; he also shewed me his naked body and he was black and blue, and I think his rib was certainly broke.
Q. Did you ever hear before this, that he had received any hurt in his body?
Anschob. No, I have known him five years; he is a sober, orderly man; he never laid in wait for any man whatever.
Charles Schoven . I am a goldsmith; I saw Mr. Wilkie the second day of his being in prison, he was in a very bad condition, his eyes were coming out of his head, and he was very much bruised in the rest of his body; he made me feel his ribs, and I thought there was something either out or broke He is a very honest man, I never heard that he hurt any body, I think he is a very humane man.
Adam Byer . I am an organ-builder, and live in Compton-street, Soho; I saw the prisoner the Sunday after the affair happened; his eyes appeared very black; I tried with my hand, and felt one of his ribs deeper than the rest; I did not see his body, I only felt. I have known him eleven or twelve years, I never heard of any complaint in his ribs before this. He has the character of a very honest man.
Council for the Prisoner. If your Lordship pleases Mr. Jessamin shall examine the prisoner's ribs. (Mr. Jessamin examines the prisoner.)
Mr. Jessamin. There is an inequality that there should not be.
Q. Is his rib broke?
Jessamin. Probably it may have been; it is almost impossible to say that: I believe it has.
Q. Can you say how recently it may have been broke?
Jessamin. When once the ribs are united it is impossible to say that; it is impossible to say whether it has been broke a month or a year.
Q. Do you think that if it had been broke by a blow at that time, it might have been in the state it now is?
Jessamins. It might.
Q. to Twine. Did you observe whether the prisoner had any more marks when he was brought back, than he had before?
Twine. There was a mark over his eye before he went out of the house; I saw no more when he came back again.
Q. to Wilson. Did the prisoner complain that night of any hurt in his side?
Wilson. No; he was sullen, he would hardly speak at all.
Guilty Death .
This being Saturday, he immediately received sentence to be executed on the Monday following, and his body to be afterwards dissected and anatomised; but as he requested a longer time to repent of his sins, the Court were pleased to respite the execution of his sentence till the Friday following, when he was executed at Tyburn.
Richard Dowley was indicted for stealing seven woollen cloth coats, four woollen cloth waistcoats, a pair of cloth breeches, a pair of worstead breeches, nine linen shirts, a linen shift, six yards of linen cloth, and a pair of leather shoes , the property of Peter Southey , September the 13th . ||
Dorothy Southey . My husband keeps a sale shop . I let a lodging to the prisoner. One day I saw some things scattered on the floor; I suspected the prisoner had been stealing some goods; I charged him with it, and he confessed that he had stolen a large quantity of goods, and went with me to the pawnbrokers where the things were pawned, (the goods produced by different pawnbrokers, and deposed to by the prosecutrix.)
"The prisoner, in his defence, said, that they had promised not to hurt him if he would confess. This the prosecutrix denied.
Guilty , T .
Benjamin Gilbert . I was walking along Newgate-street ; I missed my handkerchief; I observed the prisoner had just passed near me; I suspected him, and desired Mr. Eynon to pursue him, which he did, and as soon as Mr. Eynon had stopped him I saw him throw my handkerchief down, (produced and deposed to.)
Mr. Eynon confirmed this evidence.
"The prisoner said nothing in his defence."
Guilty , T .
733. (M.) Samuel Carter , otherwise Gosford , was indicted for that he, on the king's highway, on Thomas Gore did make an assault, putting him in corporal fear and danger of his life, and stealing from his person, nine shillings and four-pence in money numbered, the property of the said Thomas , August the 17th . *
Thomas Gore . I was coming from Welling on the 17th of August; when I got on Finchley Common , about eight o'clock, I met the prisoner upon a bay horse with a black mane and tail; I took particular notice of both him and the horse, because he rode upon a very fine horse. I rode about five or six hundred yards after he had passed me; as I was riding down a hill I drew up my horse, then the prisoner rid across me, caught hold of the horse's bridle, presented a large pistol to me, and demanded my money; I said he should have what I had; he said be quick; I gave him nine shilling and four-pennyworth of half-pence; he said I had got more, I said I had not: during this conversation I had an opportunity of observing the prisoner's countenance. I observed he had a little cast in one of his eyes; he said I had more money; I told him I had no arms about me, and he might search me if he chose it. I asked him for some money to pay the turnpike, he refused to give me any. He rode off towards Barnet, and I came forward for London. I stopt at the next public house, and wrote down a description of the man and horse, and sent it to Sir John Fielding 's. Last Wednesday evening I was sent for, to Sir John Fielding 's, there I saw the prisoner; I knew him immediately to be the man that robbed me; I cannot sware exactly to his clothes, he had either a purple plush or a brown cloth coat on.
Prosecutor. I said if he had given me some halfpence to pay the turnpike, I would not have appeared against him.
Prisoner. There is a man here that heard him say he would not appear against me.
For the Prisoner.
Guilty , Death .
See him tried for stealing the horse, No. 691.
James Currey was indicted for stealing a watch, the inside case gold, the outside, shagreen, value 10 l. one steel watch chain, value 2 s. one cornelian seal, set in gold, value 20 s. and one steel seal, set in gold, value 10 s. the property of Augustus Humphrey , privately, from the person of the said Augustus , October 14th . *
Samuel Ehlick . I live at King James's stairs, Shadwell . I lost a coat, on the 19th of Sept. out of my room; I forgot to lock my door when I went out. When I came home, about noon, I found the prisoner in my bed; I left him there; I came home again about nine o'clock, then I missed my coat, and the prisoner was gone; I found my coat the next day, at Mr. Blake's, a pawnbroker's. The prisoner dropt a pawnbroker's ticket in the house, which was picked up by the landlady; he owned the next day, that he carried the coat to pawn.
(which was produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
Guilty , T .
" Thomas Ellis , who keeps the Horns, on Kennington common , deposed that on the 19th of October, he made an entertainment for some tradesmen and their friends, and that the prisoner was one of them; that part of the company staid all night, that when they went to clear the things away on the Thursday, they missed six green handle knives and forks; that they suspected the prisoner, that he got a constable and went to the prisoner's house, in Marsham street, Westminster, and that he found his knives and forks lying upon a shelf, in a closet; that when they took the prisoner into custody he said, Mr. Ellis, I am entirely at your mercy; that after that, he said somebody must have put them in his pocket, being very much in liquor; that the prisoner is a journeyman to Mr. Hatton, a carpenter, and that Mr. Hatton brought the prisoner to his house, Upon his cross examination he said that the prisoner did not leave his house till six o'clock the next morning, and that he was very much intoxicated. (The knives and forks produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
" John Weston , the constable, deposed that he searched the prisoner's house and took him into custody, and that the prisoner said the prosecutor might suspect him if he would, but he knew nothing of them; that then he informed the prisoner that they had found the knives and forks at his house; that then the prisoner said I can't deny but I have them, but I was in liquor, and I found them in my pocket when I came home; and that the prisoner and his wife wanted to compromise it."
"The prisoner, in his defence, said that he was extremely drunk; that he staid all night; that he hung his great coat up when he came home, and that he took it down to brush, a few hours before the prosecutor came to search his house, and then he found the knives and forks in his pocket. He called Thomas Newman , who had known him a great many years; John Simpson , Fourteen or fifteen years; William Duet fourteen years; Henry Doughty , seven years; David Easton , seven years; - Wild, seven years; William Potter , ten years; and Thomas Cornwall some time; who gave him an unexceptionable character."
Guilty , B .
Isaac Taylor , March 8th , about the hour of seven in the night, and stealing one India cabinet, value 10 s. six pieces of linen cloth, value 4 d. two tin cannisters, value 2 d. one mahogany tea chest, value 2 s. and one linen shirt body, value 1 s. the property of the said Isaac . *
Guilty of stealing only , T .
Harry Piddington . I went to Marybone gardens on the 12th of September; while I was there I went to see that part of the entertainment called the Magnet; a great number of people stocked together to see it; I looked at my watch about five minutes before I went to see the Magnet; while I was there I was jostled about a good deal by the crowd, and my hat fell off; I immediately suspected the jostle might be done by somebody, with an intention to steal my watch. I felt for my watch, and it was gone; the prisoner was close to me; I observed him stoop and extend his hand forward, as if delivering something to another person; I took some notice of that other man; I immediately seized the prisoner, and took him to another part of the garden; he at first attempted to get away; when I charged him with it he trembled and denied it, and offered to be searched. Upon his promises to produce the watch the next day at Anderton's Coffee house, in Fleet street, I let him go; he came the next day to Anderton's coffee house, and Harding with him; there he denied all he had said at Marybone Gardens.
John Harding . The prisoner and I went together to Marybone gardens, about seven weeks ago, to see the Magnet; there we saw the prosecutor; he stopt, and took the prosecutor's watch out of his pocket; he gave it to me; I left him and I went immediately home with it; the prisoner called upon me the next day and told me what had passed, and asked me to go with him to Anderton's coffee house to give him a character; I went with him, and the prosecutor seemed to know me again.
"The prisoner, in his defence, said he knew nothing about the watch.
Guilty , Death .
- Baily. I am a watchman at the Custom house . I was ordered to attend this lighter particularly; I saw the prisoner in the lighter. I called to him, and then I saw him taking some coffee out of his pocket and emptying it into a cask. I insisted he should come immediately out of the lighter, which he did; and I took a large quantity of raw coffee out of his pocket.
- Birch, a gangsman, confirmed this evidence.
I had the coffee given me by a watchman.
Guilty 10 d . T .
William Ellis . I was coming by Holborn bridge ; Mr. Gill informed me that the prisoner, who was then a little before us, had stole my handkerchief; Mr. Gill seized him; then I saw the prisoner throw my handkerchief down upon the ground; I picked it up.
(The handkerchief produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
I did not take the handkerchief; I sell things about the streets.
Guilty 10 d . T .
I was carrying it for a man who was to pay me for it.
Guilty , T .
George Lolley . I was standing at the print shop St. Paul's church yard ; I felt my handkerchief going out of my pocket; I turned round and saw the prisoner near me, tucking something into his breeches, and I took my handkerchief out of his breeches.
I took the handkerchief off the ground.
Guilty . T .
George Hanikin . My wife and I were walking near Holborn bridge , on the 20th of October, at night; she told me somebody was busy about my pocket: I felt in my pocket and missed my handkerchief; the prisoner standing near me, I seized him, and charged him with having stole my handkerchief; at first he said he had no handkerchief. I took him towards the watch-house; he took my handkerchief from under his arm, and said, here, I will give you this handkerchief that we may have no words; when I looked at it I found it was my own.
(produced and deposed to.)
I found it. He called three witnesses who gave him a good character.
Guilty , T .
Henry Bryant . I am a taylor , and live in Silver street, Wood street, Cheapside ; the prisoner was an absolute stranger to me; he came with another person to my shop, in June 1770, he he said he wanted a pair of stocking breeches; he tried on a pair in my dining room, which he said, fitted him very well; he asked me if I chose to take a draft; I said I did not know him, and did not choose to take a draft; he then asked me if I would take a draft on a banker; I said no, he might draw on his banker, but the banker might have no cash of his. I would not take it; the prisoner said he would send his servant that he had with him to the banker's, with a draft for the money; the man went with the draft, but returned in a quarter of an hour, and said the banker's shop was shut up; it was only a quarter past four then; that satisfied me that something wrong was intended: then the prisoner, finding that I was uneasy, called for the hanger, which his man had, and offered to pledge it for a guinea and the pair of breeches; I said I would enquire, and if it was worth the money I would let him have it; he proposed to be measured for a suit of clothes, and he said he would recommend me to a deal of custom. I went to enquire if the hanger was worth the money; I found it was, and lent him the guinea, and let him have a pair of breeches; then the prisoner said his name was William Hoare , and that he had had dealings with Mr. George Forbes , a draper, and was really a gentleman; he shewed me a bill for drapery goods, in the name of Mr. Forbes: he wrote a note, at the time he delivered this hanger, and would have had me take that note for a memorandum; I refused to take it or pay any sort of attention to it. I only relied on the security of the hanger; then he went away, and I spoke to him no more for a twelvemonth. I did see him once, but not so as to speak to him, somewhere by Hempstead; I saw him again in the month of June; he came then to my house, and said, your servant, sir; I did not recollect him; he said have you that hanger; I said yes; he said bring it to one Mr. Harris, in Black Friars, at two o'clock; I went with it there; I found a Jew at the door; on enquiring for William Hoare , Esq; the Jew said he was notdrew the hanger, and said if I wanted it I might have it; the others laughed at me, and there was a good deal of talk it about it; one said I should make a suit of clothes for him, another said I should make a suit for him. I then said I would take the mall up; I had, before that, given up the hanger, before the prisoner talked of paying me. The prisoner demanded a piece of paper I had, which was this bill of parcels of this draper's to the prisoner for some goods, and there is a note of hand on that bill of parcels;" I promise to pay on demand, to Mr. Henry Bryant , or order, one pound seventeen shillings for value received, the 16th of June 1770." The date is not to it now, it was by accident burnt off; that note was left on the table, and my own pocket book; so finding I could neither get the money nor the hanger, I took up my pocket book, and put it into my pocket; they wanted me to take a note for three days; I would not, I threw it at them and run away home. I would have took them up if I had had a constable. I went again on Monday; I saw two women there, they said they knew not the persons. About a month or six weeks after I found the prisoner at a horse ride, in Moor lane, Fore street; there I took him.
Q. How came the name burnt off this note, which the prisoner left you, at the time he left the hanger?
Bryant. It happened by accident, since the time I lost the hanger, it fell into the ashes. I found this note and the note which Harris pretended to give me, by way of security, for the debt, which I totally refused; I don't know how I came by it, unless they thrust it into my pocket book while on the table; it was burnt by falling in the ashes; I never received it as a security; nor did I know what the prisoner wrote on the paper. I would not give any credit to him, not knowing him; I only gave him credit because of the hanger, which was worth the money. The prisoner agreed, when he left the hanger, if he did not come in two or three days, I might sell it. I refused to take Harris's note, to deliver up the hanger, on receiving Harris's security; I did not agree to it. The day I took the prisoner, I met him first at the end of Silver street, near my house, between three and four o'clock. I said, sir, I think you did not use me well, taking my hanger and not giving me my money, the prisoner said did not that man pay you, and seemed surprized; I said no; I went to the house, two women said they neither knew you nor Harris. I asked him where he lived, and how to come by my property; he took out his pocket book and offered me another note of ten pound, drawn on one Wilson; he said if I would change that he would pay me; I knew Wilson not to be a very good man, and refused it; he said if I would come to the coffee house, opposite the Mews gate and bring change for the note, he would be glad to meet me, and would settle the business, being then busy in getting change for a customer. I left him and went home; then I got the beadle; we found him in Moor-lane, at a ride, where I took him.
Q. Did not he tell you he was a going to that livery stable?
Bryant. No; he did not.
Q. Did you apply for a warrant?
Bryant. No; I had a right to take him without a warrant; I saw the man that came the prisoner's servant, a few days after the hanger was left at the house; I said nothing to him nor he to me; that person was with the prisoner when I saw him in Silver street, the day I took him up.
Q. Did not you offer to compromise the matter?
Bryant. Mr. Richardson and Lester's clerk
Q. from the prisoner. Did not you say that you had been encouraged by my enemies to prosecute me?
Bryant. I once told them that the people at the Dog and Duck had offered to employ council for me, and they encouraged me to go on with the prosecution, because they said he was a bad man and should be brought to justice; but I have not employed council.
Q. from the Prisoner. You never did say that Harris had undertook to pay the money, and because he did not pay it you had taken me up?
Bryant. I never paid the least attention to it; when I went there, it was to take them up, not to get money for the note.
- Ellis. I am the prosecutor's servant; I measured the prisoner for the clothes. I was there when the prisoner first called to his servant to produce the hanger, and saw him pledge it for a guinea, and a pair of breeches that came to sixteen shillings. My master asked me what I thought of it; I told him I was not a judge, so he went out to enquire the value of it. The prisoner talked of being a good customer if he was used well. My master came back and said he would take the hanger for the guinea and sixteen shillings; the prisoner offered him a note, which he refused to take: he left the note on the table; my master called after him to take back the note again, for he would not account it as a security.
Q. to the Prosecutor. What kind of a hanger was it?
Bryant. It had a fox's head, green ivory in the gripe, circled round with silver, and the sheath was silvered.
"The prisoner, in his defence, said the prosecutor agreed to take Harris's note for the money, and voluntarily gave up the hanger."
For the Prisoner.
Joseph Harris . I know the prisoner. On the latter end of June, or the beginning of July, I was at my brother's house, in the Printing House yard, Black Fryars; while my brother and Mr. Hoare went to get their hair dress, the prosecutor came in and asked for Mr. Hoare, he waited for him; Mr. Hoare came in about a quarter of an hour after; I told Mr. Hoare he had brought his hanger; I delivered it to Mr. Hoare and he put the hanger on. The prosecutor said he had brought his hanger, and he gave him a bill or note. Mr. Hoare applied to the gentleman with him for some money; but on the gentleman's telling him it was his sabbath, that he was very sorry to disappoint him, but could not give him any money till Monday, Mr. Hoare said to the prosecutor he had no more money about him then than would defray his expences; being a going out of town, but would leave orders for the money to be paid him on Monday. The prosecutor said he did not choose to go away without his money; but on my brother's telling him he lived in the house, and would give him a bill for the money, he was satisfied. My brother wrote something on th e back of his bill, or note, and the prosecutor went away satisfied.
Q. He pulled out the bill in expectation of money?
Q. Did he object to Mr. Harris's security?
Harris. No; not in the least, upon his telling him he kept a house: my sister told me he came the Tuesday following.
Court. What business is your brother?
Harris. In the mercantile way.
Q. That is a large expression: In what branch?
Harris. He deals in every thing.
Q. That is larger still; does he deal much in these sort of notes?
Harris. Not that I know of.
Q. He deals in every thing?
Harris. He buys every thing and sells it again.
Q. No particular branch that he chooses to call himself by?
Q. A merchant?
Q. How long might he have lived in Black Friars before this happened?
Harris. I cannot say particularly.
Q. Be so good as recollect yourself.
Harris. It might be six months.
Q. More or less?
Harris. I cannot say.
Q. How much more than four?
Harris. I cannot say particularly, I believe about four or six months; I cannot be particular just to the time.
Q. He had kept a house for that time?
Harris. Not all the house.
Q. How much of it?
Harris. The two parlours down stairs and the first floor.
Q. Who had the other part of the house?
Harris. I cannot tell the people's names.
Q. Did you live in this house?
Harris, No; in Rosemary lane. I am a salesman.
Q. What might be the occasion of your being there that day?
Harris. I went to dine with my brother.
Q. Do you know how long this man and your brother have been acquainted?
Harris. I do not know.
Q. How long did your brother continue to live there after that time?
Harris. I cannot say.
Harris. I cannot particularly.
Q. A week, month, or year.
Harris. Six weeks.
Q. You swear to his continuing six weeks at the same house, after the prosecutor was there?
Q. Where may your brother be now?
Harris. In Norfolk.
Q. Who lived with your brother in this house?
Harris. Nobody but him and my sister, in his part of the house.
Q. All the time?
Q. Then there was no endeavour, by the prosecutor, to take the hanger from Mr. Hoare, the prisoner?
Harris. None in the least.
Q. Nor Mr. Hoare did not draw the hanger on the prosecutor, and say, now if you have a mind to have it take it?
Harris. No; nothing of that sort past.
Q. Was you in the room at the time?
Prosecutor. My lord, he was not in the room at all.
Q. Who was in the room at that time?
Harris. My brother, Mr. Lazarus, my sister, the prosecutor, and Mr. Hoare.
Q. Then there were six of you?
Q. Was you in the room all the time?
Q. You said you did not know the prosecutor; how do you know the prosecutor is the person?
Harris. I cannot swear to the prosecutor if I see him; I remember he was a little man, drest in brown or black.
Q. You should not know him now perhaps?
Harris. I cannot say that I should; I did not know it would be attended with such consequences.
Elizabeth Harris . I know the prosecutor; I saw him once when he came to our house with the hanger, and afterwards when he came for the payment of the bill; he came with the hanger, between one and two, the latter end of July; I saw him come in.
Q. Who was in the room at the time?
Harris. No; my husband's brother; my husband's name is Samuel Harris . Mr. Bryant brought the hanger; Mr. Hoare said to Mr. Bryant he was very sorry that it happened so, but the gentleman that had appointed to pay him the money had disappointed him, and if he would call on Monday he would pay him the money. Mr. Bryant did not seem very well satisfied with that, but my husband said sooner than there should be any words, he would sign his name to the bill, as a satisfaction for the payment of the money; Mr. Bryant was very well satisfied with Mr. Harris's signing the name, and delivered up the hanger to Mr. Hoare: he went away and called on Monday for the money; when he called there was nobody at home; I desired him to call another day, and he has never called from that day to this.
Q. You say you saw Bryant deliver up the hanger?
Harris. I did, without the least force, or any words at all.
Court. Who was at home when he came?
Q. Where was the prosecutor carried to?
Harris. Into the front parlour.
Q. Who led him in?
Harris. I really cannot say.
Q. You remember his being led in?
Harris. I remember that very well.
Q. Was the door open, or did he knock at the door?
Harris. I cannot say, I was sitting in the parlour.
Q. Were they all there?
Harris. Yes; to the best of my knowledge.
Q. Who spoke first? I think you said Mr. Hoare told him he was very sorry.
Q. And Bryant did not seem satisfied, but on your husbands signing the note delivered up the hanger?
Q. Had he the hanger in his hand, or did he wear it by his side?
Harris. In his hand.
Q. He kept it fast then till your husband signed the note?
Harris. I believe he had given it into Mr. Hoare's hand first.
Q. What, as soon as he came in?
Harris. I cannot say as soon as he came in.
Q. Well, but before Hoare told him he was disappointed and could not pay him, did the other desire to have his hanger again?
Harris. Yes; Mr. Hoare said he should be much obliged to him to call on Monday, being disappointed that day.
Q. He did not give him the hanger?
Harris. He gave him the hanger, or he took it out of his hands, I cannot say which, and without words.
Q. But did not offer to give him the hanger again?
Q. Nor did he offer to take the hanger again?
Harris. I do not know that he did.
Q. No struggle between them about it?
Q. No struggle, nor no blows?
Q. Was the hanger drawn by any body?
Q. What business is your husband?
Harris. He is in the law.
Q. What branch of the law may he follow?
Harris. He is an attorney.
Q. What part of the world is he in at present?
Harris. The other end of the town.
Q. How came he not to be here to-day?
Harris. We live at the other end of the town, I mean to say. He is out of town at present.
Harris. He went to Oxford; where he is now I cannot say.
Q. How long has he been out of town?
Harris. He has been out of town better than a fortnight I think.
Q. When did you last hear from him?
Harris. About nine days ago.
Q. Where did he date his letter from?
Harris. He was then at Oxford; he was going away next morning, he did not say where to.
Q. You have not heard from him since?
Q. Do you know what quarter of the country he is in?
Q. An attorney is he?
Q. Is that the only sort of business he has ever been engaged in?
Harris. Yes, ever since I have been married to him.
Q. How long is that?
Harris. A twelvemonth.
Q. Never in any other business?
Harris. Not that I know of.
Q. Not concerned in buying and selling any thing?
Harris. Not that I know, except among his acquaintance or so.
Q. How long had you lived at this house at Black-friars, when the prosecutor came there?
Harris. About a month or six weeks; we lived there three months in the whole.
Q. Then you must have staid in the house a month or six weeks after this man had been there, and then removed?
Joseph Harris live?
Harris. In Warwick-court, Holborn.
Q. How long has he lived there?
Harris. About a month.
Q. Where did he live about the time this thing happened?
Harris. In the Minories.
Q. What business was he?
Harris. A salesman.
Q. Was he a salesman at that time?
Harris. I think he had not left the business off then, to the best of my knowledge; I am not certain.
Q. Have you the whole or part of the house only?
Harris. Only the two parlours.
Q. No other part of the house?
Q. Who lived in the rest of the house?
Harris. The people that kept it, and two or three lodgers.
Q. You saw him on Monday?
Q. One of the rooms I suppose you made use of as a bed room?
Q. And had no other part of the house?
Harris. No; except the use of the kitchen.
Q. Was you at Mr. Harris's in June last?
Lazarus. I believe the last of June or the beginning of July, I saw Mr. Hoare there; I was in the parlour when Mr. Bryant came in; I was there before any one was at home; in about a quarter of an hour a little man in brown or black came in with a hanger, and asked if Mr. Hoare was within; he was told, no; but was coming immediately: in about a quarter of an hour Mr. Hoare came into the parlour.
Q. Who was there beside you?
Lazarus. I believe one Joseph Harris came in; the man said, Mr. Hoare, I have brought your hanger; Mr. Hoare said very well; how is it; he shewed him a little bit of a note, and said it is one pound seventeen shillings; Mr. Hoare asked me if I had any money to lend him to pay the man, it was between one and two, or there about; I told him if it was not our sabbath I would lend him some money; the man said he was a stranger to him and could not leave it without the money; Mr. Hoare said would he take my word for it: he said I was a stranger to him as well as Mr. Hoare, he would not take my word nor Mr. Hoare's; he said if Mr. Harris, that is the house-keeper, would give him an undertaking for the money he would take it; so Mr. Harris gave him an undertaking on a bit of paper, I believe of some note for to be paid on Monday; that is all I know, and the man went away.
Q. What became of the hanger?
Lazarus. Mr. Hoare took it and put it to his side.
Q. Who gave it him?
Lazarus. The man.
Court. Then there was no quarrel or struggle?
Lazarus. No; not a bit.
Q. Nothing taken from the man?
Q. He gave him the hanger voluntarily?
Q. Nor the hanger was not drawn?
Q. When the prisoner came in you say, you think, Harris came in with him.
Q. Who else?
Lazarus. Nobody else, that I remember.
Q. How many were present when this transaction, about the hanger, passed?
Lazarus. To the best of my knowledge, four; there were me, the prisoner, and the two brother Harris's.
Q. Then there must be five of you?
Lazarus. With the prosecutor there was five.
Q. Was Mrs. Harris at home?
Lazarus. I cannot recollect myself whether she was or not.
Q. Then she was not in the room?
Lazarus. I do not recollect myself, I did not see her, to the best of my knowledge.
Q. Did the man enquire for Harris or Hoare, when he first came?
Lazarus. for Mr. Hoare.
Q. Pray what might be your business there that day?
Lazarus. Mr. Hoare told me I should come for some particular business, to discount a bill; he did not know it was our sabbath, when he sent for me.
Q. So you came, though it was your sabbath?
Lazarus. I told him I would do it on Monday,
Q. What time did he send to you to come?
Lazarus. I believe that sabbath morning, about ten or eleven o'clock.
Q. Did he appoint what hour you was to come?
Lazarus. No; not in particular.
Q. When you first came to the house was he not at home?
Q. Does he lodge there?
Lazarus. Not that I know of.
Q. How came he to appoint you to meet at Mr. Harris's?
Lazarus. I do not know; he does business with him.
Q. What business may he be?
Lazarus. He is a merchant.
Q. In what sort of way?
Lazarus. I do not know; I do not do any business with him.
Q. His wife has told us that he is an attorney at law.
Lazarus. I cannot tell what he is.
Q. How came you to tell this strange man that he would come in presently?
Lazarus. He was told as I was told.
Q. By whom?
Lazarus. The maid, or man, I cannot say which.
Q. What business does he follow?
Lazarus. I believe an engraver.
Q. Where does he live?
Lazarus. I cannot tell; he is not a great acquaintance of mine; I never saw him but twice in my life.
Q. But you know he is an engraver?
Lazarus. I think so.
Lazarus. I never did such a thing in my life; no sword was drawn; I saw no quarrel.
Q. You saw no sword was drawn; was the hanger drawn, for I know you are a correct people?
Q. And you did not hold the prosecutor?
Lazarus. No; I never had a character for that.
Prisoner. My Lord, I beg to be heard a few words; I can very easily account for the diffidence that appears in that man's wife; I beg she may be asked a few more questions.
Court. No; you can't call any more witnesses now; I will indulge you to make any observations to the jury you think fit?
Prisoner. First, to begin with Joseph Harris , who was examined, I never saw Mr. Joseph Harris , till I saw him in his brother's house in Printing-house Yard, a very short time. Prior to this transaction of the sword, I have heard that he was a salesman in Rosemary Lane; but I had heard he had quitted that, and was going into some other business. With respect to the brothers, I believe they are people that can prove he was bred a merchant, and he served his time to an eminent merchant in the city. My acquaintance arose with him by an attorney, who transacted business for me, and he was going to be articled with him as his clerk; and I don't know now whether he is not now articled as his clerk; whether he has quitted the name of merchant; I cannot tell the fact relative to myself, or why I came to Mr. Harris's house; I had been getting some business done at Mr. Harris's; I was to dine at his house, and in consequence of that, sent to Mr. Lazarus, whom I have bought many different trinkets of in his way, and always had discount for bills, paying so much for the articles I bought. The reason why Mr. Harris's wife has shewn a diffidence about her husband is, his brother is mistaken for the identical Mr. Harris. I have a great number of evidences; it would distress me in keeping away my witnesses; and I believe there is a man in court to take this Mr. Harris for the identical Harris himself: it is a hard case. I never saw Mr. Harris, his wife, nor Lazarus, till since I have been in confinement; but Mr. Lester who is agent in this cause for me, applied to Mr. Lazarus to come to declare the truth; I asked no compliment but the absolute truth: it is very plain Mrs. Harris has given this account, because she is apprehensive of the consequences for her husband; the tipstaff has told me he would try the event whether this Harris is not that man. I believe there is a person who has known Mr. Harris, and has done the business that Lazarus has done before in point of giving cash; I saw him there a while ago, who
Court. No; you are too late for any more witnesses, your council told me you had finished your evidence, and I indulged you with the liberty to make any observations upon what evidence you have offered, there it was closed; one thing I have to say to you, your council has not called any body to give any account of your way of life or character; if you will give any account of your character you may?
Prisoner. I believe Mr. Perrot has done business for me, and Mr. Scot and Mr. Samuel Swinton , I was told was in court, and several gentlemen who have known me; if I have been imprudent, it has been owing to my own misfortunes. I have a father, and come of a very respectable family as most can boast.
He called no witnesses.
Guilty , T .
745, 746. (M.) Mary Jones , and Alice, the wife of John Knowland were indicted, the first for stealing two linen gowns, a camblet gown, two flannel petticoats, a woman's hat, two linen bed gowns, two linen shirts, two pair of stays, two linen neckcloths, a woollen jacket, and two linen aprons , the property of John Slater , and the other for receiving the above goods, well knowing them to have been stolen , April 2 . *
Both Acquitted .
The Prosecutor was called but did not appear.
749 (M.) John Heatley was indicted for stealing a pinchbeck watch, value 30 s. a pinchbeck seal, value 1 s. and a gilt metal watch key, value 6 d. the property of Alexander Scott , privately from the person of the said Alexander , September 13 . *
750. (M.) Rose Farrell was indicted for stealing a guinea, three half guineas, and ten pence in money numbered, the property of Thomas Windaw , privately from the person of the said Thomas , October 20 . *
751. (M.) John Savil was indicted for stealing a cloth coat, value 10 s. a cloth waistcoat, value 5 s, two pair of leather breeches, value 5 s. a pair of worsted stocking breeches, value 2 s. 6 d, a pair of silver knee buckles, value 3 s. and a silk handkerchief, value 1 s. the property of Redmayne Macdonald ; one pair of stockings, value 2 s. one pair of leather shoes, value 2 s. and two muslin neckcloths, value 1 s. the property of Martin Connolley , October 5 . ||
Redmayne Macdonald. Martin Connolley , the prisoner, and myself, lodged together in one room near Whitechapel , we are paviors . I was going on Saturday to put on my best cloaths, and I missed the things; the prisoner was gone away, so I suspected him. I saw him in the Compter the next day with the coat and waistcoat on.
"The prisoner in his defence said, he bought them in Rag Fair, but he called no witnesses.
Guilty , T .
752. (M.) James Currey was indicted for stealing one watch, the inside case gold, the outside black shagreen, value 10 l. one steel watch chain, value 2 s. one Cornelian seal set in gold, value 20 s. and one stone seal set in gold, value 10 s. the property of Augustus
Augustus Humphreys . I was once a baker in the city; I had disputed with my landlord, and upon that I left my business and went and lodged in Holborn. On the 14th of October in the evening I was in liquor; I went into a public house and sat down, there the prisoner came and sat by me, and asked me how I did; I said, I did not know him; he said, he had carried faggots for my man; presently Brynan and Allendar came into the same box, we all sell into discourse together; on the landlord's desire, they went into another room, the prisoner then asked me if he might not have something to eat; he went out and fetched a tongue and eat it; while I was in this room, I fell asleep, but while asleep, I remember the prisoner feeling about my breeches, and at last I felt him take my watch out of my pocket; after that I saw him go out of the room; I got up immediately, and said, that man has got my watch; I sent two people after him directly, that is Allendar and Brynan; they went out at first, they did not find him, they went out afterwards and brought him in; the constable was sent for, and he thought proper to search all the people in the room, no watch was to be found. I have never seen the watch since, the prisoner was taken to the round-house and committed, but he denied it.
William Brynan . When I went into the house I saw Humphreys and another man sitting by the fire drunk, after a while the prisoner said, he was very hungry, and wanted something to eat; Humphreys gave him six pence, he went out and got a tongue; and brought a woman in, the tongue came to four-pence more than he had given him; after this we went into another room to drink. I was invited in to eat part of it, and sat down with them; there was beer and brandy called for; after a while the prosecutor laid himself down on the table, and lean'd his head on it; while he was thus leaning down on the table the prisoner was fumbling about his breeches; he made an attempt to take out his watch, but did not succeed, that made Humphreys get up; I dropped a halfpenny, stooping under the table to pick it up, I saw Humphreys get up on this attempt to take his watch, and then laid himself down again; the prisoner's hand was again about his breeches; I knew that, because I heard the chain rattle.
George Allendar . I am a soldier; I was in this house: while we were there the prisoner said he had no victuals; he asked Humphreys for six-pence; Humphreys was almost drunk; the prisoner touched Humphreys on the thigh: upon that Humphreys put his watch-chain into his fob; the prisoner said to Humphreys he would soon have it out again. This was in the public room; then the prisoner went out and bought a tongue; they went into the parlour all together: brandy was called for by the prisoner; and he obliged Humphreys to drink half a glass; the prosecutor was lying on the table; the prisoner was feeling about his breeches, and at last the prisoner asked what it was o'clock; Humphreys took out his watch; it was then ten minutes after seven; presently after this the prisoner called for the reckoning, and said he must go out and make water; soon after he was gone, Humphreys got up and said he had lost his watch, and the prisoner had got it; we went out a second time, and brought him in.
Humphreys was fuddled, and treated me with a tongue: we had brandy, and other liquors; I would have paid part of the reckoning; Mr. Humphreys would not let me. I know nothing of the watch. When I was gone away they came and laid hold of me, charging me with this watch.
For the Prisoner.
Guilty , T .
753. (M.) William Jones was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling house of Jaques Coulson , on the 27th of September , about the hours of three in the night, and stealing eleven silver desart spoons, value 40 s. two silver tea spoons, value 3 s. three linen napkins, value 4 s. two linen towels, value 2 s. two pictures, in black frames, with tortoiseshell backs, value 10 s. one rasor, value 18 s. oneSusannah Coulson , spinster ; one cotton gown, value 5 s. and one flowered sattin cloak, value 5 s. the property of Ann Dodson , spinster; and one linen gown, value 5 s. the property of Elizabeth Dodson , spinster, in the dwelling house of the said Jaques Coulson . *
Valentine Townsend. I keep a public house at Westburn-green, near Mr. Coulson's; his house was broke open on the 27th of September, at night; at about nine o'clock that night the prisoner at the bar came into my house; Mr. Coulson's gardener came in to him a little after; he was a little while in company with him; he went away at nine o'clock, and the prisoner stayed an hour and an half; he was footman to Mr. Coulson, and he had been discharged about a fortnight.
Susannah Dodson . I was servant to Mr. Coulson at the time of this robbery: the prisoner at the bar lived there a month, as a footman ; he had been discharged a fortnight before the robbery; the night before the robbery I saw the doors and windows were fast, particularly the parlour door that opens into the garden; it is a sash door; it was locked; there is a shutter to it, and a bar that fastens the shutter; it is fastened in the middle, and falls into a staple. I got up between seven and eight in the morning, and went into the parlour, and there I found the door open; the bar was hanging down, and the bell was in a chair near it; the shutter was open; though the key was in the lock in the inside of the door, yet the door was unlocked, and their was no signs of violence on it,
Elizabeth Handscomb . I am a servant to Mr. Coulson; I fastened all the doors and windows the night before the house was broke open; the other young woman was with me; she hung the bells at the time the windows was shut; the bar was across, or else the bell could not be put in it; the bar is heaviest on the side that falls down, that keeps it fast; finding the door open, I went to see if the spoons were in the case, and they were missing; there were eleven large spoons, two tea-spoons, and an antigugler; the spoons were in the house the night before I saw my mistress working on a silk gown in the afternoon, that was missing; it was for my mistress's niece; I saw no marks of violence on the door; I suppose it must be opened by somebody on the inside; it could not be opened on the outside.
Richard Burnham . I work at a farm house, near Mr. Coulson's; on Saturday morning, about six o'clock, I was in the fields, behind Mr. Coulson's house, and saw the prisoner walking along a path-way, in the field; he had a parcel, and there was a gown lying on the top, like this gown that has been produced; I thought he had lost his way; I asked him if he had; he said no, he knew where he was very well; he went away, and I went about my business. I never heard of the robbery till the next morning, and then I went and acquainted the family of it, and described the man, that evening he was taken up, at Valentine Townshends. There is a field behind the house, and then a lane, and then another field, where I found this man. The door of the parlour does not open in the garden where the field is, but into another that comes round the house to Westbury green; there is nothing parts the Green but pales of a yard high; from thence a person may go along this path.
John Clark . I am a constable. On the first of October Mr. Coulson and his nephew brought the prisoner and the gardener to Sir John Fielding 's; I searched the prisoner and found a little hook, it is like the hook on which the pictures hung, and two keys, one, the key of a box a hundred miles off, and the other of a box in Thames street: among other acquaintance he had one Mr. Spekman, in Leicester Fields; I went there and found all these things in a box, at Mr. Spekman's; all these things were found in that box; there was a great coat found at Mr. Spekman's, that was in the house the night before the robbery was committed.
- Speckman I have known the prisoner some years, he lodged with me about a fortnight before he went to Mr. Coulson's. On the 30th of September search was made at my
I found the things in the field, near the garden, about six o'clock; I thought they were the gardeners, because he was going away; he had desired me to enquire after a place for him; accordingly I removed them from there in order to have a little fun with the gardener; I put them into the field over the gate; when he came he said nothing to me about them, and I said nothing to him, but I told him I had heard of a place, and he appointed to meet me at St. James's in the afternoon, and the gardener not coming I took them to my lodgings; I have no witnesses; I never sent to any body.
Guilty of stealing only , T .
Daniel Collins . Between the 12th and 14th of this month, I lost a hand-saw and a tenon saw, several planes, chissels, a plow, an oilstone, a hammer, and a box rule. I lost them out of Grovener's place , where I was at work; I am a journeyman carpenter ; it is a kind of a shed, built on props, to make our work in. I left my tools on Saturday night and missed them on Monday morning. I don't know I ever saw the prisoner till I saw him in the Round house.
Q. Was the shed left open?
Collins. No; the door was locked and the shutters nailed up.
Q. Did you leave these things open, or in a chest?
Collins. Open; on Sunday night the watchman found the prisoner in the shed and took him to the round house; On Monday I asked the prisoner if he knew where my things were; he said he had hid them in the king's new road.
Q. Did you go and find them?
- Jones. I am a watchman. On Saturday, the 13th of October, I found the prisoner in the shed, in Grovener's place. I asked him what he did there; he said he came in for shelter; it was a rough bad night; I seized him and took him to the watch house. I did no know him before. I asked him how he got in, and he said the shop was broke open before he came. I know nothing about the tools. The next day, before the justice, he said he was the person that broke the shop open; he said he took the tools away, and hid them in the Five Fields, that go to Chelsea.
Q. Did he describe where he hid them?
Jones. Yes; in a ditch.
Q. Did you see Alders there?
Jones. No; he was in company; I know nothing of his going for the tools.
John Alders . The prisoner told me where I should go to find the tools; it was on Monday, as we were going to the justices; he said they were in a ditch, in the Five Fields, going to Chelsea. I went and found them there. I brought them to the shop, while they were gone, and about an hour after he came and took them to the justice; I delivered them to him, and he has had them ever since.
The shop was broke open before I went in; it rained hard; I put in there for shelter, being in liquor; I fell asleep in the shavings, and the watchman took me into custody.
Guilty , T .
755. (M.) RIchard Bigglestone was indicted for stealing four silver table spoons, value 52 s. one pair of silver shoe buckles, value 11 s. one silver stock buckle, value 2 s. one pair of sleeve buttons, value 1 s. and one china snuff box, value 1 s. the property of John Redman , Esq ; in his dwelling house , September the 28th . +
Mary Wood . I am a servant to Mr. Redman, the prisoner was a servant to Mr. Redman, he had received warning to quit his service three weeks before this was done. I lay on the same floor with him. On the 28th of September, about 5 o'clock in the morning he knocked at my door, and told me there had been somebody in the house, and asked for a light; I had never a one to give; then he went down a lower room, and got a light of another of the servants. I came down stairs into the place where the bureau was broke open, about a quarter of an hour after him: I saw the windows open in the back parlour, the window shutters were both open, and the sash of the biggest was up; the shutters of the little window were cut with something, and the bureau was broke open; the prisoner said there had been a man in the garret, with a pistol, where he lay, and told him if he did not lie still he would blow his brains out, and then all the family came down; this was towards six o'clock; the prisoner then took us into the garden to see if he could any way trace the thieves; he said, before he went into the garden, he believed the rogues came in at the little window; we went into the garden directly; we went down first to the alcove in the garden, and looked over, and one of the maids saw the silver spoon, just over the ditch, in the field, opposite the alcove; the prisoner went first; when we saw the spoon he was a going to jump over to get it, but he went round into the field, and we went into the middle of the field; the prisoner said we will go quite cross the field; to see if we can find any more; the cook found another in the middle of the field; we went across the field and found a pair of old black buckles, them he picked up; then we came into the garden and found the china snuff box. The prisoner said he believed a little boy got in at the little window; the glass of the window was broke; it did not appear as if any body had got in; a man could not get in, it must be a small boy to get in; the windows were both towards the garden.
Q. Do you recollect any expressions made use of that led you to suspect him.
Q. from Prisoner. Did I go first to the alcove?
Mr. John Redman . I live in Mile-end, in the parish of Stepney . The prisoner was a servant of mine; he had been five months in my service, within a week. I went from my house, on the 26th of September, to go into Essex, and returned on Saturday the 28th; the first person I saw on my return was the prisoner; he informed me a man had broke in at the little window, and went out again at the large one; and that the thief stood by his bed-side near an hour before he went to the maid's room for a candle, and he said he was dressed in a light blue coat. I thought it impossible for him to know the colour of a coat at five o'clock in the morning; this is what passed at the door, going into the parlour; and examining the window, in company with the witness Edward Wright , I found the sash glass broke, but it was broke on the inside, because the glass was on the outside. On examining the window shutter there appeared three small cuts, as if it had been done by a case-knife; the cuts were not opposite the hole in the glass; they were below; and there was a screw, a turn buckle, and an iron bar that were not brok e at all; so that it seemed impossible for any body to come in at that window; the hole in the shutter was not large enough for a child to get his finger through, and the vine that grew on the outside of this window, was not damaged; it could not be opened on the outside. I looked further, and found my bureau was broke open; I lost a large pair of silver shoe buckles, and a silver stock buckle; I could not tell particulary what I had lost. I am not sure the silver shoe buckles were taken out of the bureau; the stock buckle was, the table spoons were on the side board; there were four of them in the same parlour; I left them in the house when I went, and I missed them when I came back; I lost a china snuff box; I can say, for certainty, that the silver stock buckle and the china snuff box were in the bureau. The prisoner was taken up the day the robbery was commited. Before I came home Mrs. Redman suspected him; at first she went to a friend, and he advised her to take him up; he was taken before justice Sherwood, and committed on Monday. On the Friday after, Mr. Sackler, a publican, in the neighbourhood, came to my house, just as I returned from the justices, and told me where the prisoner said the things were buried, and that the magistrate had consented he should come into the field, in custody, and if I would go the things should be delivered to me; so I went into the field; there was the prisoner, in custody, with Edward Wright , and another officer, and this Sackler was with me, and the things were delivered to me by one of the officers. These are my buckles that I advertised, and this is my stock buckle, and these stone sleeve buttons are mine; the prisoner was present when these things were delivered to me; the officers said they found them in my fields, near the pales, the snuff box was given to me the day I returned home, by the servants; it was found in the garden.
Q. from the prisoner. He said I was in custody when he came home; whereas, he said before, I came to the door and told him of these things.
Redman. The officer came to the door as I did.
Q. from the prisoner. My master swears this screw was on the window; how does he know that it was on that night?
Court. There is no positive evidence arising from that.
Q. to the former witness. Was this screw secured that night?
Wood. I did not take notice.
Henry Sackle . I live at the Red Cow, at Mile-end. I know the prisoner; the day the things were lost I saw him, and asked him it was; then he said a man had broke open the house, and came up to his bed. I enquired after the man, particularly, because I had been robbed myself; On Friday I went to the justice, and I went to a publick house where the prisoner was, and two men had him in custody, we went into a private room, and taxed him with knowing of this robbery: we said to him, you must know of this robbery; he said he knew nothing at all of it; we all stuck up to in that the must know, and he had better confess; then he confessed that they were hid in the field, but he could not tell where, without going. I acquainted the justice with it,
Q. from the Jury. Did the prisoner confess the robbery?
Q. What had he said before of this field, at the public house?
Sackle. He said he would own it if we would send a particular person to him, he said he would not tell where they were, unless he was to go.
Q. from the Prisoner. He said he was the person that came into the field with me, and the officer; then he said he went to my master, and came in with him, and two other gentlemen.
Edward Wright . I am a servant at Mr. Sherwood's office; I took the prisoner; the second time he was brought to be examined he confessed this 'robbery, he said if you will take off my handcuffs and come along with me, I will shew you where the field is; then we went with him into the field, he shewed me the bag, and I gave it to Mr. Redman, it was in high grass under the pails; I picked it up, I never opened it, but gave it to Mr. Redman.
Q. From the Prisoner. He said that he and I were both present at the picking up the things, that I picked them up, and then he picked them up?
Wright. He shewed me the things, and I picked them up.
John Farrel . I went into the field with Wright and the prisoner; we went over two fields with him, and jumped over a bank; he put down his hand and took up the bag, and gave it to Wright; his master came out, and two gentlemen; he gave them to Mr. Redman; I stood close by him when the purse was tken up; Wright was stooping at the same time he was.
On Tuesday morning my master went into the country; the next morning a man came into my chamber and held a pistol to me, and said if I stirred 'he would blow my brains out; I believe he staid about an hour; then I went down to this young woman's room, and asked her for a light, she gave me one; then I went to my mistress, and knocked her up, and said, I believe somebody had been in the house; I went down and found the little window open; it was broke, and the shutters cut, and the great window was open; then they all came down, and after a little time we all went in the garden, and the cook maid picked up a spoon; then we went round to several places, and by the wall she picked up the snuff box; then my mistress called me in, to go with her to a gentleman's, where she was going, at Stepney; as I came back she desired me to see, if I could see any thing dropt; so I went round the field and saw the things lie there; then I opened the bag and saw what was in it; I left it there, because I was afraid to mention it; least my mistress should think I had some hand in it; how it came there I do not know, but there I found it.
Guilty, 39 s . T .
John Crouch . Daniel Coats is a French prisoner , I belong to the first troop of grenadiers; on Friday evening, Sept. the 20th about eight o'clock, I was at the Two Brewers at Knightsbridge , my brother came; I took coach for him, there were besides the prisoner, John Drew , and Water Hanniford, Coats came in the evening; first Coats called for a pint of beer; he pulled out five guineas, a quarter of a guinea, a shilling, and some halfpence; I am sure there were five guineas in his hand; he was not very sober, he wanted me to change a guinea, I could not, but I changed a shilling to pay for his beer; he went then to a table were Mackoy and Drew were sitting; and he treated them with beer, and said they should have what they could drink, if they would sing, they fetched the prisoner into the tap room; the sailor ordered a half gallon bowl of punch, then the prisoner came in and sung; the sailor called for six half crown bowls of punch, which he paid for; after that three more. I persuaded him at the sixth bowl to have no more; he was exceeding drunk; at last he fell a sleep; he had been so two or three times; I took
John Hooper . I saw Coates sitting in the tap-room, and the prisoner sitting by him they were drinking together; Crouch and the other grenadiers were with them; Crouch would not let them have any more liquor. Then all except the prisoner and Coates drew out of that box into other boxes; the sailor laid his head down on the table; Crouch said I am afraid the prisoner will pick his pocket, and desired me to take notice. A quarter of an hour after that, Crouch being in the box, said his hand is in the sailor's pocket, then Horbond was desired to go round and examine the man; he shook the sailor, and asked him if he had lost any thing, and desired him to take out what money he had; he said he had five guineas: there were eighteen-pence wanting of the change of the last reckoning; and they searched, and there were two guineas missing, Mackoy desired they would search the prisoner's left hand waist-coat pocket, either Crouch or Mackoy did, and took out eighteen-pence: before this, the prisoner said he had no money about him, and no one should search him; the prisoner took the opportunity and run out of the door I took him coming round the house. We said he should go before the company, that they might be better satisfied about the two guineas; with assistance I took him back into a large room behind the bar, the company desired an account about the two
James Jones . I was called into Crouch's; the prisoner was shown me by two neighbours; I asked the sailor if he had been robbed; he said I miss some money. He said he had five guineas when he came into the house, and he produced what was left; he said twenty-four shillings had been spent; upon counting all the money, a guinea was wanting. Upon that Jones said another guinea is wanting, we must search you; he said they should not: he said the sailor had given him the first guinea; he refused to have his pockets searched. Then Hooper said search his shoes and stockings; he said they should not till they had took him to some person; upon which Hooper and Draper forced him into a chair, and then he pulled off his left shoe first of all, then pulled off his right stocking, turned it down half way, then shook it, and the guinea fell out. The prisoner had said he would find an other guinea; and when pulling the stocking, he said, you will find money enough there; they asked him how he came by this guinea, he said the sailor gave him the guineas.
The sailor did give me the money.
For the Prisoner.
John Barber . I was in the same box, at these two Brewers, on the Friday night. I, the the prisoner, and the sailor were drinking together; three or four other soldiers were with him, they were all disguised with liquor. I drank with them; one of the company asked him if he would drink till tomorrow morning, for he had pretty nigh half a guinea good. Crouch said he saw the prisoner's hand in the sailor's pocket; the prisoner, on being charged, said some silver dropt, and he took it up to put it in the prosecutor's pocket. Then the prisoner went out and was brought back by Hooper, who took him into a room. I heard, but did not see it, that they found the two guineas about him; I heard the prisoner ask the sailor if he had robbed him of that money; the sailor said, no, I believe you did not. The next morning, before Sir John Fielding , the sailor was asked if the prisoner had robbed him: the sailor said they tell me so, but I believe I gave it him to pay some reckoning with.
Thomas Draper . I was there; I heard Crouch say he saw the prisoner's hand in the sailors pocket; the sailor was very drunk, he fell down several times. Crouch called me into a large room behind the bar, he said two guineas were missing; the constable was sent for, I heard money fall after the constable came; I cannot say where. The sailor said before the justice, he believed he gave the money to the prisoner to pay his reckoning; the sailor at this time was drunk; the prisoner's serjeant came about two hours after to the Two Brewers, and asked Crouch if the prosecutor was alone; then Walley said to Crouch, he had not done justly to the prisoner; Crouch refused to let him go up.
Jeremiah Boyle . Before the justice the sailor said Crouch and Hooper told him he was robbed; but he said he was not, but gave the money to the prisoner to pay the reckoning; he said we were all drunk together; this was about eleven in the morning.
William Mackoy . After the first guinea was taken out of his shoe, the prisoner asked the sailor if he had robbed him; he said no; I gave him two guineas to pay the reckoning. I did not say that I saw the prisoner put eighteen pence into his pocket, I saw him put his hand in it, and search; because they said the man was robbed; but I did not know there was any thing in the waistcoat pocket at that time.
Mary Carleys. I went to see the prisoner in Newgate this day; Hooper, Crouch, and Jones, came in when I was there, and asked the, prisoner what he thought of the affair, he said he did not know, he was innocent of it, and asked what they intended; Crouch said, they came on purpose to make it up with him, and said it had cost them eighteen-shillings the day before, and nine that day; and that it was a great expence and fatigue to them to attend; and the prosecutor would not be there, and if the prisoner would make it up with them, it should not come to tryal; the prisoner said he was innocent; then they said they would put it off till next sessions, if they could do no worse.
Crouch Young. Mr. Fielding, in the morning, said it was plain these fellows, meaning the soldiers, had been tampering with the sailor, and ordered Crouch to let none of them come near him, and he ordered Hooper in particular, to keep them from him.
Hooper. Justice Fielding ordered me to let none of the grenadiers come near him, till between four and five, to get him ready to go before the justice; the only thing I said to him. was to desire he would recollect himself as well as he could, in the morning, before the justice; the sailor said he had lost his money but did not know how, being so much in liquor; between six and seven in the evening he swore he was robbed of two guineas, and repeated it several times.
- Jones. I am the constable; from what passed in the hackney coach I thought proper to keep the soldiers away; there were five in the coach; myself, the prisoner, the prisoner's serjeant Walley, and one Skelly; the prisoner said to the sailor, don't you know you gave me two guineas last night; the sailor said no, and took his head several times; at this time he was in liquor; the prisoner said did you not give it me; the sailor said no, why should I give you my money, if you would have drank gold. all in my pocket should have been at your service, but to take my money I do not like it; the prisoner said what you want to hang me; he said no, I do not want to hang or hurt you; but the prisoner said, you will hang me if you do not say you gave me the money; why then says the sailor, I will say so.
Q. To Crouch. What do you say to that?
Crouch. It is totally misrepresented; we did
"Hooper and Jones said the same; and also that there was not a syllable said about making it up; that they only went to give the prisoner something to drink; that there was a woman with him, which they believed to be Careless.
Guilty of stealing, but not privately from the person , T .
757. Judith the wife of Solomon Abrahams , was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling house of Jane Cross , widow , on the 11th of July , about the hour of five in the afternoon, (no person being therein,) and stealing 2 linen gowns, 1 silk and stuff gown, 2 dimity petty coats, 2 stuff petticoats, 4 linen shifts, 4 pair of cotton stockings, 8 linen double handkerchiefs, 9 linen aprons, 4 check linen aprons, 1 black laced handkerchief, 8 pair of linen shift sleeves, 6 damask linen napkins, 2 linen breakfast cloths, 3 yards and a half of lace; the property of the said Jane Cross , in her dwelling house . *
Jane Cross . I have this house at Hoxton in the fields; there is a garden before the house; I went out about 12 o'clock at noon, on the 11th of July, and left nobody in the house, every thing was safe; I did not come home till five in the afternoon, and I found my house was broke open; the street door was not open, but the door of the house was broke open; and there was a pane of glass taken out of the window, and the back door was open; the locks of my bureau and the draws were broke open, and the things mentioned in the indictment, were taken away, (repeating them) my room was stript, the things taken away amounted to the value of 12 l. I found 2 chissels and a file near the draws that were broke open. I was going along Chiswell-street, a considerable time after, I saw the prisoner with my gown on; I stopped her, I examined the gown and saw my work upon it; I asked her how she came by it; she said, she bought it and paid for it; she told me where she lived, and said, she would give me satisfaction next morning; she was taken before the justice in White Chapel; she said first she bought it out of pawn, at Charing Cross; afterwards she said she bought it at Mr. Scotts.
- Bland. The prosecutrix came to me on the first of October, and told me she had found out the person that robbed her; I went next day according to appointment, to the prisoner's house; she said she bought it of one Mr. Scott, a pawn-broker in Shoreditch.
I came honestly by the gown; I sell old cloaths; two men proposed to me to buy a gown out of pawn, in the Borough; I bought this gown, two petticoats, and a black handkerchief, for which I paid 25 s.
For the Prisoner.
Guilty of stealing the gown , T .
Susannah Brittan . I saw the prisoner go into the prosecutor's house, on the tenth of October, about four o'clock in the afternoon; I saw her come out again with something in her hand: I went and informed the prosecutrix of it.
(The things produced and deposed to.)
The prisoner said nothing in her defence.
Guilty 10 d . T .
William Payne . I was at Guildhall on the twenty-fourth of September, I saw the prisoner very busy; I suspected him, and watched him closely; I saw him take the handkerchief out of Thomas Owen 's pocket; I went and secured him, and found a handkerchief in his breeches, which was owned by the man; he did not appear to prefer the indictment, so I preferred it at my own expence. He swore to the handkerchief before the aldermen. This is the handkerchief (producing it.)
I was among the crowd; I saw an handkerchief drop; I picked it up.
Guilty T .
761. (M.) Mary Wall was indicted for stealing one stuff gown, value 2 s. one stuff petticoat, value 2 s. one feather bed, value 16 d. and one hat box, value 6 d. the property of William Harris , October 3 . *
Elizabeth Harris . Whilst my husband was gone to Lambeth, I heard a bustle in the street; presently the mob brought the prisoner back to my house; she had these things in her apron (producing them.) They are my property; I had them in my hand about an hour before; they were wore by my apprentice; she acknowledged before Sir John Fielding that she went up stairs, and took them.
Elizabeth Taylor . I am apprentice to Mr. Harris; I saw the prisoner going from my master's door with something in her lap; I suspected her; I cried out, Stop thief; she ran, the mob stopt her, and brought her back; I saw my mistress take the things out of her apron.
"The prisoner, in her defence, said the girl gave them to her; she called two witnesses who gave her a good character."
Guilty 10 d . T .
763. (M.) Jane Hitchings was indicted for stealing one garnet necklace, value 20 s. two stone buckles, set in silver, value 4 s. one pair of stone ear-rings set in gold, value 6 s. and one diamond ring, set in gold, value 10 l. the property of John Teede , June 21 . +
John Teede . I live in Edger Lane, near Paddington . I am a second waiter to the Robe office . I lost all the things mentioned in the indictment, except the ring, on the 6th of December, out of a bureau in the bed chamber; the diamond ring I lost on the 21st of July: in fact, I did not miss them till the 17th of this month, only I heard the prisoner acknowledge the time she took them. The bureau was sometimes lock'd, and sometimes left open; I had no servant but the prisoner, and she did not quit my service till last Saturday se'nnight; she had been with us three years and two months in the whole. On Saturday the 17th of this month my wife missed all the things, except the ring, out of the
Q. Why did not you carry her before the justice on Friday?
Teede. My wife wanted to consult her friends what course to take.
Sarah Teede . I kept the things in my bureau in my bedchamber; it was sometimes lock'd, and sometimes not. I had no suspicion of the prisoner; she had been so long in the family. On the 17th of October, between one and two o'clock. I missed all the things except the ring. I asked the prisoner where they were; the prisoner said she knew nothing of them, made various protestations of her innocence, and desired me to look and search after them. I did all day and next morning, and to no purpose; the prisoner was locked up in the kitchen. I did not see her to speak to her till Saturday; I said nothing to her about confessing, nor did I hear my husband say any thing. My reason for putting her there was that as she had done this fact, as I suspected it on Thursday, and knew it on Friday. I was afraid to have her lie so near me. On Friday evening my husband asked me if I had got all my rings; I searched my bureau, and presently missed my diamond ring, which I told my husband of. The prisoner, my husband, myself and the constable went on Saturday to Jasson's; Jasson said he had the ring, but I should not have it without paying for it. At last, however, he went with us to Justice Wright's, and produced the ring. I saw it in his hand; the prisoner being present there, he would not give it out of his hand, he only let me look upon it. I told the justice I was sure it was my ring; being ill I did not come next time to justice Wright's till half past twelve, then the prisoner was gone. Mr. Jasson afterwards came to my house at night, along with another person, they frightned me very much by their behaviour; he threw the ring down, and said, he had rid his hand of it, and I must take care of it.
Q. to the Prosecutrix. Did you never lend her those things?
S. Teed. I had lent her a mock garnet necklace to wear on these occasions, and some other trifling things, but never none of these things.
Q. Do you know the prisoner?
Q. You will take upon you to say you don't know who brought that diamond ring to you?
Jasson. It was pledged four months ago; I could never find the name since.
Q. Who was you to restore that ring to?
Jasson. To any body that brought the ticket; I give them a ticket with my name and place or abode on it; none of the trade do that but myself.
Q. What did you lend upon it?
Jasson. Ten shillings and sixpence.
Q. It is a very valuable ring, is it not?
Jasson. I don't know what they paid for it, these things, second hand, are not sold for near their value.
Q. How came you to go in this strange manner at night?
Jasson. This gentleman came to my house, and said there was an earring pledged in that name; she found it, and she insisted upon my going before the justice. I said I would go; she began to be very cross; then she gave charge of me, and the constable went with her and me to justice Wright's; we staid there above an hour and half, till Mrs. Trusler's people could not be found; it was put off till Monday twelve o'clock; an acquaintance of mine went with me. I said, madam, you need not be afraid to open the door, at last she opened it; I told her it was impossible for me to know the person of the prisoner: she said she would not take charge of the ring; when I offered it to her, my only motive for that was, because I would not sware to the prisoner.
Court. But you would not part with the ring at the justice's.
Jasson. I thought to deliver it up in court.
Court. You have behaved very ill.
"The prisoner said nothing in her defence; but called"
Guilty , B .
James Willis . I live in Milk-street, Cheapside. I am clerk to a wholesale linen draper . On Saturday, the 5th of October, being the last day of election for lord mayor, I went to Guildhall , I lost my watch there; it was found at Drury-lane playhouse. I went to Guildhall to take down the number of the poll. I had my watch in my fob then, and I had not taken it out; I missed it immediately on coming out of the hall.
Q. How long had you been in the hall?
Willis. About an hour.
Q. Did you see the prisoner there?
Willis. I think I remember his face, there was a great crowd.
Q. You did not known him before?
Edward Rogers . I know the prisoner. I am constable at Drury-lane playhouse, there was a noise up in the two shilling gallery; a man came down for a constable; I went up, and two gentlemen had got the prisoner on the stairs; they said they had got a pick pocket, and that they saw him pick a gentleman's pocket. I took him into custody, and brought him down into a lobby, I searched him, and found this watch in his fob.
Q. You are sure it is the same watch?
Rogers. Yes; it has always been in my possession. I took him before a justice, and he was committed; I went to the maker, and he recollected who the watch belonged to?
Q. What is the maker's name?
Q. Pray when was this?
Rogers. I think the 15th of this month.
Q. Are you sure the watch is the same?
I bought the watch, in Clare-market, at the Three Tuns, at Eight in the evening, about the 7th of this month.
Q. to Rogers. Did you find the prisoner on the stairs?
Q. Was the play begun?
Rogers. I believe not.
For the Prisoner.
- Gretricks. I live at White chapel; I did live in Shoe-lane; I am a breeches maker; I moved from Shoe-lane, the 4th or 5th of this month. I live at Allen's a coach painter, opposite White chapel church. I saw the prisoner,Lawrence Field was with me, we were waiting for one Gray, a custom house officer, that lives in the same street: we were in the tap-room; the prisoner was there a nd a young man with him; there were more in the tap-room, but no more in the box; I heard them talk of a watch; they mentioned as if they were about to bargain; they talked about some money; I heard a guinea mentioned, but I cannot say any thing further.
Q. Did you see the watch?
Gretrick. No; I heard the prisoner say he would give a guinea, and his own watch in exchange for another, which, I suppose, the other man had.
Q. How long did they stay?
Gretrick. We left them there about half an hour.
Lawrence Field . I live at Mr. Allen's, the coach maker; I am his son-in-law. I went to the Three Tuns, with Gretrick, to wait for a custom house-officer; we sat in the box where the prisoner and the other man were. I took up the news paper; I heard the word watch mentioned several times, between the prisoner and the other man.
Q. Did you see any watch.
John Lacels . I am a cooper, and live in St. Martin's lane. I have known the prisoner four years. I believe he was brought up in the clothiers business: he has always bore a good character any further than as being a wild young man.
Guilty , T .
- Ingleton. I am the prosecutor's wife: the prisoner winds silk with me; I paid her her last earnings on the 14th of September: on the 16th, as I understood afterwards, she came and took the bobbins; I lost six bobbins, containing three ounces and an half, in my closet; I did not miss them till the 17th, when notice was given me something of this kind had been found; at the time I saw them the officer had them.
Sarah Wright . I work with Mr. Ingleton; the bobbins were of my own working; I put forty five bobbins into this closet in a basket; about four in the afternoon, the 14th of September, the closet was not locked; the prisoner was at work above stairs when I put them in. She came again on Monday morning into the shop; she staid there an hour, and went down again; she must have passed by the closer door. She came again that same evening, between six and seven, she was not up stairs long, she staid about a quarter of an hour,
Elizabeth Cooper . On the 16th of Sept. in the afternoon, she came to me, in St. John's court, not far from Mrs. Ingleton's, in liquor; she had six bobbins in her apron; she asked me what she should do with these six bobbins; I said she ought to put them where she had them from; instead of that she took them to Mrs. Snatchwell's, up stairs; we talked of charging an officer with her, and then she gave me the six bobbins out of her lap; I went to Mr. Burton's to know who they belonged to, and gave them to Burton.
Mary Snatchwell . Ann Mason came and asked to speak with me, I cannot before whether it was on Monday or Tuesday, about two o'clock; she opened her apron, and I saw the bobbins, with white silk on them; she said they were not stolen from any body, she had them to sell for an acquaintance. I observed one marked T. H. she said she was to sell them for Mrs. Cooper, above stairs; Mrs. Cooper was called down and denied it, and threatened to send for an officer; then she delivered the bobbins up.
Mr. Ingleton. They are the bobbins that were missed out of the closet.
I was quite in liquor. I took them by mistake. I know nothing about it.
Guilty 10 d .
Thomas Jones was indicted for stealing 1 hempen bag, and 18 lb. of lead , the property of John Mott , October 2 6. ||
Guilty 10 d . W .
768. (M.) Edward Ireland was indicted for stealing a watch, the inside case metal, the outside shagreen, value 40 s. one stone seal, set in gold, value 18 s. a steal watch chain, value 10 s. and two gold lockets, value 21 s. the property of Judith Hancock , widow , in the dwelling house of Andrew Bowers , Oct. 4 . +
Judith Hancock . I live in Great St. Andrew's street, Seven Dials ; I did keep a house there, but now Andrew Bowers keeps it; and I am a lodger; on Friday the 4th of October, I lost my watch; it was a metal watch with a green outside shagreen case. (The watch produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
Q. Is the inside of that watch metal?
Q. Is that a shagreen outside case?
Delahoy. No; it is a fish skin.
Q. If I came to buy a watch, would that pass for a shagreen case?
Q. Mrs. Hancock. What part of the house did you lose it out of?
Hancock. The parlour; I had it at twelve, and lost it before one; I advertised it on Friday, and heard of it on Monday morning following; that gentleman came to my house, from Mr. Welch, and asked if I was the person that advertised it; his name is Bryer; I went and saw the watch, and two lockers, the chain was gone; the lockets were hung to the chain; the ribbon is not mine; the seal I have not found yet.
Q. These things you are sure are yours?
Francis Tollinton . The prisoner about the 4th of this month came into my house; I live at the Turks Head, Diaper-street, Bloomsbury, he came about three in the afternoon, with five or six more. I saw the watch in his hand, and they were disputing about who was the proprietor of it one said, they had as good a right as the other; after I heard these disputes, I fear for the constable, I sent to Mr. Welch's office, and Hewetson and another came and secured all the people in the room; the prisoner in the time I had sent for them, came up to the bar, and said, they have got my watch away from me; I said go into the room, and I will get you your watch again; I locked the doors, one of them had got it, and said he would go out of the room; I was obliged to use him roughly, and knock'd him down, to secure him; when he found he was detained, he shoved the watch through a hole in the floor, which went into the cellar: one of them said, I would not let any body go into the cellar till the officer came; then this gentleman went into the cellar, that is Bryer, and brought up the watch.
Q. You never had it in your own hand?
Tollington. No; not till after it came out of the cellar: I did not see him put it down.
Hewetson (again). I secured eight of these people; I searched the prisoner's pocket at Mr. Welche's, and found this gold locket in his pocket, which is crooked; I asked him which way be came by it; he said he took it off the watch; and when he was examined before the justice, he said he had the good fortune to find three guineas in a piece of rag, and he gave fifty shilling for this watch and lockets, and he had thirteen shillings and six pence, and half a crown remaining: he was committed for further examination.
Delahoy. ( again) I made the watch and sold it to that lady; I know nothing more of the matter.
Q. You don't know any thing about the lockets.
Abraham Bryer . I am one of Mr. Welche's people; I was in the office; I went to Mr. Tollinton's and I went down into the cellar, along with Tollington's servant, to seek for the watch; she said here it is; I saw her pick it up; she gave it me; I went up and searched several of the people; there were two or three chimney sweepers; we tied them hand in hand, and took them to the justice; they were all discharged but this one; when the locket was found, the prisoner said he met a
Q. Did you see any thing of a chain?
Q. Did you hear any thing about the locket?
Bryer. He said he took that off the watch.
Q. Did you hear any thing of the seal?
I was going along Holborn and saw a man with this watch in his hand; I asked what was o'clock; he said, he could not tell, he asked if I would buy it; I had money, so I asked what he would have for it, he said, 3 l. I said it was a good deal of money for such a watch, I would give him 40 s. for it; he would not let me have it; I then rose to 45 s. I bought it at last for 50 s. I gave him three guineas; he asked if I had a 6 d. I had, and gave it to him, and he gave me a 13 s. 6 d. I found the money by Covent Garden; I have one witness to prove I found the money that saw me pick it up; and another to prove I bought the watch, it was just as it is, with the lockets to it.
For the Prisoner.
Guilty 39 , T .
769. (M.) Sarah Higgins was indicted for stealing 1 silk purse, value 1 s. 1 glass smelling bottle, value 4 d. 2 guineas, 1 dollar; 1 piece of foreign silver coin, called a pisterine, value 10 d. 1 other piece of foreign silver coin, called a bit, value 5 d. 1 other piece of foreign silver coin, called an eighth of a dollar, value 6 d. and 11 s. 6 d. in monies, numbered , the property of Gustavus Vesse , Oct. 21 . *
770 (M.) William Mackensie was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of Simon Abrahams , on the 24th of Se pt. about the hour of one in the night, with intent to steal the goods and effects of the said Simon . +
Charles Hore . I lost a linen gown the first of October, it was lost out of a box in my lodgings; I live at Tothil-street, Westminster ; the prisoner goes by the name of Cooper; I have known her half a year, my child being ill, we desired her to sit up and attend her; she did, I was in the room where we lodge, we have only one room; I saw it in the box three or four days before.
Q. How did you first discover she had taken away the gown?
Hore. The woman was missing two days, we wondered what was the matter; I had spent all we had, and my wife said, we must get this gown and pawn, or sell it; my wife went to the box, and the things were missing.
Q. Was you present?
Hore. No; my wife told me so; about ten days after, the prisoner informed a young woman where the gown was pawned, that made me suspect her; the day after I went in search of her, and about eight o'clock at night, I met with her, and took her to the watch house; and the next day, to Sir John Fielding 's; as soon as I took her, she said she took the gown out of the box and pawned it to one Mrs. Aldridge in Pye-street, for 4 s. I took a constable and went to Aldridge's, and there I found the gown, while the woman was in the watch house.
Q. Do you know this gown yourself?
Q. Did you receive that gown of a woman?
This gown Mr. Hore gave to me out of the box, on Tuesday night; he had no money, so he gave it me to be concerned with me; he went out into St. James's park, and under the fourth tree, by the gravel, he brought the gown there under his coat and gave it me; there was nobody there but ourselves. He spoke to me several times; I told him he had a wife; he came home drunk on Sunday night, and played his fun with me before his wife, and he put his thigh over mine. I am twenty one years old.
Q. to Hore. Whether on Sunday, you played your fun with her, by putting your knee on hers; did you make any of these overtures to her?
Hore. No; I never did in the world; I was quite the reverse of that; she would not take with me; it is very false.
Q. Did you take the gown out of the box?
Hore. No; I did not.
Q. Did you know the gown was out of the box before your wife told you?
Q. Did you meet this woman in the park.
Hore. No, I never did, nor any where else in my life.
Q. Did you bring the gown under your coat?
Hore. No; I never did.
Q. What business are you?
Hore. A journeyman carpenter ; I am a Somersetshire man.
Guilty 10 d .
772 (M.) Sarah Cox was indicted for stealing seven Holland shirts, value 10 s. one silk gown, value 5 s. twenty yards of thread lace, value 10 s. ten yards of linen cloth, value 10 s. and ten yards of silk, value 10 s. the property of Thomas Wright , October 8 .
Jane Wright . I live in Catherine-street, in the Strand . I am wife of Thomas Wright ; I keep a chandler's shop. The prisoner lodged with her father and mother at our house about eight weeks ago. The things mentioned in the indictment were stolen out of a sore kitchen; they were in bags, they were just come into the house, and had not been there four hours. The kitchen door was locked; it had been locked all the time.
Q. The prisoner had nothing to do in this kitchen?
Wright. No; I missed a great quantity of silk, seven Holland shirts, a gown, twenty yards of thread-lace, and eight or ten yards of linen cloth. The things were taken out of the bags, and the bags left behind: I found the kitchen door locked as I left it on Friday morning. My husband went to the justice, and he granted him a warrant: we searched her room, we found some cloth, some pieces of silk, and part of the thread-lace, about eight or ten yards.
Q. How do you know that is your's?
Wright. I have some at home to match it; I am very sure it is mine; the cloth was cut into shift-sleeves.
Q. Can you swear to the silk?
Wright. Yes; I have a gown at home of the same.
Q. Was the prisoner there when you found these things?
Wright. Yes; she confessed she brought them out of the kitchen.
I saw them in the fore kitchen, and took them into my room; they were put out of the way till somebody should own them.
"She called a witness to her character, who deposed, that she takes in gentlemen's linen to wash. She said the prisoner had ironed for her; that she entrusted her with a great many things, and always found her very honest.
Guilty , T .
James Greaves ; and the last for receiving the silver watch-case, and silver button, well knowing them to have been stolen , Oct. 4 . ++
All three Acquitted .
776. (M.) Elizabeth Harping was indicted for stealing one pair of silver shoe-buckles, value 2 s. one silver table-spoon, value 5 s. one silver tea-spoon, value 1 s. two pair of linen sheets, value 26 s. three linen table-cloths, value 6 s. six linen pillow-biers, value 9 s. four linen shirts, value 20 s. and four check shirts, value 8 s. the property of James Thomas , October 18 . ++
James Thomas . I am sexton at Shadwell : the prisoner was my servant ; she had lived with me between three and four years. On the nineteenth of October my daughter told me she had taken some things out of the house. I asked if she knew what silver spoons were in use; she said, No. I went and looked among the spoons, and missed a silver one marked M N. I then desired my daughter to look over the house, and see whether she missed any thing else: accordingly she did, and on Monday following that silver spoon was brought in, and put into a cupboard, and another was carried out.
Q. How do you know it was brought in?
Thomas. Because I found it; I missed another that was marked I S C; then I desired my daughter to look further, if she found any thing missing. I did not know that any thing else was missing. On the Tuesday following the prisoner ran away; I got a warrant of justice Sherwood, and she was taken up on Wednesday, I think it was the twenty-third. She was carried before justice Sherwood; the goods mentioned in the indictment were all produced at his house, they are here now in court. (Produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
Q. What did the prisoner say about it?
Thomas. She declared the things mentioned in the indictment were my property; that she was in need of money for some debts contracted before she came to me, and took them through necessity; and that she carried them to one Mrs. Hyde, and desired her to pawn them, and that the money was for her own use. Mrs. Hyde is here, and Hyde owned she pawned them for her; she owned they were my property, and she took them for necessity.
Q. Were they in the house about the time the prisoner was there?
Q. And they were missing then?
Q. What did she say before the justice?
Thomas. She said they were all our property, that she took them out, and pawned them through necessity.
Sarah Hyde . The prisoner brought the things produced to my house at several times. While she lived at Mr. Thomas's, she said they were her own; she said she had kept as good a house as her master, and had as good cloaths as her mistress. She desired me to pawn them: the plate was pawned at Hodley's, the next at Ann Dudley 's, the next was at Mr. Simons's; and the next at Mr. Burch's.
Q. Was you before the justice?
Q. What did she say there?
Hyde. I did not hear; I shewed Mr. Thomas all the pawnbrokers.
I did not do it with any intent to wrong my master; I intended to fetch them again. The woman pawned them for twenty-five shillings more than she gave me, and she not giving me that money. I could not redeem them.
Guilty , T .
James Trueman . I am a smith . My master lent me to a gentleman, at Saffron hill, to make lamp irons. I work at Mr. Hopkins's in Carnaby market; my shop mates got me a lodging, in Cow-cross; they took me up Black Boy alley ; the next day, the 14th of September, I went up Black Boy alley again; I was not sure I was right, being a stranger,
Q. Was you sober?
Trueman. I had a pint of beer; there was a young woman bid me come in, and she would put me in the way to Cow Cross; and while she was talking to me at the door this man came up; he was in the house, and laid hold of me by my arms. (I had stept into the house about a yard) the woman put her hands into my pocket; I had a five and threepence, a shilling, and one farthing; I gave a struggle and said she has got my money; he took me by the shoulder, and said none of your soldiers tricks; thrust me out of the house and shut the door.
Q. Are you sure that is the man?
Trueman. Yes; I found him on the Tuesday after, and took him to the justice; I found him in the same house. Two of my shop mates went with me to the house, and we took him to the justice; he said, it was not him, it was a woman he called Ann Stone that took my money, he did not deny that he held me, but told the justice he should not have done it if he had not been in liquor; I have never seen the woman since; none of my shop-mates are here.
I know nothing about it; he came to the house, and said how do you do; he said don't you know I was here on Saturday night; I said no; he said don't you know I was robbed here; I said no; I waited half an hour for an officer, but none came; the woman he speaks of knew she was guilty, and therefore she fled: had I known I was guilty, I would have fled, but I staid, I don't know the woman that robbed him, but by the description he gave, it is Ann Stone .
Guilty . T .
778. (M.) Richard Richmond was indicted for stealing eight thousand feet of mahogany, value 200 l. the property of Francis Hall , in a certain ship called the Chance , in the navigable river of Thames , Sept 9 . *
Francis Hill. I am commander of a ship called the Chance, in the service of Mr. George Massom . We took in mahogany at Cape Gracious Sadcou on the Musketo shore; we had on board two hundred and twenty thousand feet; we began in December, and were three months loading; we arrived here in May.
Q. Was the prisoner on board the ship?
Hill. Yes; he was chief mate . We began delivering from the ship in May; the ship lay at Shadwell dock.
Q. Who superintended the delivery?
Hill. The chief mate; the cargo is delivered by lumpers, who are hired by the chief mate, and under his direction.
Q. Did you visit the ship while the cargo was delivering?
Hill. Yes; a few days before we arrived the prisoner and I were talking about the cargo; he said, captain, you have got nine pieces of mahogany on board, which is not good.
Council. Describe the pieces of mahogany that the cargo consisted of?
Hill. Pieces of logs and planks; we call them all logs that are fourteen feet long; they are sawn off trees, one tree perhaps is sawn into three pieces, ends, planks, and spurs. A spur is a piece out of the root of a tree: it is like a table. They are from fourteen feet down to two, and from two or three inches thick to 25 inches. He said you have nine pieces of mahogany not good, if you please I will chop off or change the marks, and give you nine pieces of the best in the ship, which makes little or no difference in the cargo. I answered, No, sir.
Q. Had you any mahogany on board on your account?
Hill. Yes; the nine logs, it was all shipped as cargo; I bought it after it was shipped, I said no, I never chused to put myself in the hand of any man; as my logs were received, so they should be landed; we had no more on that subject.
Q. What was the mark on your logs?
Q. What was the mark on the logs of the owners?
Q. What was there to distinguish your property from the owners?
Hill. The numbers.
Q. Do you know what numbers your logs were marked?
Hill. I delivered them to the brokers; the numbers produced from eighty one, to eighty-nine, inclusive.
Q. Had any of the other logs these numbers?
Q. How many logs belonged to the owners?
Hill. About eight-hundred, including my nine.
Court. Then seven hundred and ninety-one, belonged to the owners?
Hill. More or less, I am not quite certain; every different mark begins with fresh numbers. (Looks over the invoice.) There were seven hundred and ninety-five in all; my logs marked C, G , M, were taken out of the one hundred and ninety-five; then we came up and reported the goods at the Custom house. We generally in wood report less than there are in case of a mistake; I entered them something under the number, then the mate had an order from the Custom house to discharge the ship; he continued discharging till the ship was out. Mr. Bowler, the measurer, came to me, and said, Sir, I believe some of your cargo is landed at Sir Peter Thompson's wharf in Surry. My cargo was to be landed at the Jamaica wharf, near Black friars bridge, in Surry, agreeable to the owner's orders.
Q. Whereabouts is Sir Peter Thompson's wharf?
Hill. Below bridge, at Dock head. I told Mr. Bowler, I had an opinion of my mate that he would not do such an action as smuggle wood contrary to my orders; I begg'd him to make enquiry, and I would speak to my mate about it. I went on board, and asked the prisoner if he had been guilty of landing wood out of my ship, for I had been informed that he had landed wood out of the ship at Sir Peter Thompson's wharf. He declared that he had not landed any wood out of the ship, nor had he any there but two small pieces which I had knowledge of: I told him if he had done so to confess it, and I would use my interest with Capt. Massom, before it went too far; he utterly denied it, and said he hoped I had a better opinion of him; this was about the end of June, or in July. Nothing passed for about six weeks, when Mr. Bowler spoke to me about it again, and brought in an account of his measurement; I had so good an opinion of the prisoner, that I never went to Sir Peter Thompson's wharf to enquire about it.
Mr. Bowler's account of the measurement differed vastly from mine, he is a sworn measurer and broker; he differed twelve or thirteen thousand feet from the measurement I took in the country; some I measured myself; neither he nor I could account for it, unless they were my goods that were landed at Sir Peter Thompson's wharf. This passed on about ten days; he gave me some slight hint that he thought it was my wood; Mr. Massom came to me in September, and said the clerk of the wharf, where our wood had been landed, had told him that he believed the wood that was sold at Sir Peter Thompson's wharf was his; I was so persuaded of the prisoner's honesty, that I could not believe him guilty: the wood was advertized as the property of a gentleman from Honduras. I saw some of this wood afterwards, in Mr. Slater's yard, in the beginning of Sept. that is at Rotherhithe; there were two pieces there; I only challenged one to be mine; I measured four hundred and twenty nine for sale; I saw my mark, G. M. on it: it was in some measure bruised out, but yet visible; the number is visible 164, it is not quite plain, the 4 is not touched.
Q. Had you the particular dimensions of every piece?
Q. What was the dimensions of your piece, 164.
Hill. I made a mistake, it is 264; it is thirteen feet long, and twenty-three inches both ways, square; the piece at Slater's wharf agreed with the invoice exactly: my measurement in the country was 573 feet.
Q. How came you to say 429 feet.
Hill. That is for sale; there is a difference between that and for sale; the exact measurement of the outside is five hundred and seventy three feet: when they measure for sale, they make a difference of any that is not square;
Q. Do you believe that to be one of the pieces shipped at the Musketo shore?
Hill. Yes, I have no doubt about it.
Q. Are you sure these four pieces were originally all one?
Hill. Yes; by having them laid on one another, and they fitted exactly. I have brought that piece here with the mark. (the piece produced) I found this piece in Hodder's yard in September; I found the other piece in Maiden lane, in the hands of one Ash, the day after; I believe the mark of that is hackled out; there is no describing it; there is a mark No. 201 on it, visible enough to see it had been so marked; I found another piece at Mr. Clifford's in Queen-street, Holborn; the marks of that are chopped out; I found one piece he had sold privately-in Ratcliff highway, to one Mr. Burkit, the marks of that are chopped out.
Q. When the cargo was landed, I believe it answered in point of number of pieces of wood; how happened that?
Hill. Pieces that had been shaken and tossed about in the ship, some were split in two, there were two pieces of cedar, there were seven hundred pieces on board; the cargo delivered had more pieces; some whole pieces were split in two, and other pieces were shook by the carriage, on the sea; and there were some pieces which the measurers call white wood, that are not in the invoice: they were delivered with my mark and numbers upon them.
Q. Why did you cut any of the pieces in two?
Hill. To make stowage.
Q. Is it usual to cut your pieces of mahogany in two; for to make stowage?
Hill. No: but we gave leave for six or seven to be cut, to stow in the hatchway. I don't know how many were cut; these were cut at the Musquetto shore.
Q. Was it possible to cut these on board the ship?
Hill. They could not cut them till the port was opened.
Q. How must that be cut?
Hill. With a cross cut saw, two people must do it.
Q. You gave orders you say in the country for six or seven pieces to be cut?
Q. Do you know in fact how many pieces were cut?
Q. You say when you came home, you entered them under the mark?
Hill. That is customary; we are allowed what is called in the Custom-house, a post. entry; we are permitted to make a second entry.
Q. Where did this ship lie in the river?
Hill. Close by Shadwell dock.
Hill. Near a quarter of a mile more or less.
Q. You say you saw two pieces at Mr. Slatter's, and you challenged one?
Q. Which did you challenge?
Hill. That of two hundred and sixty four, the other was not of my cargo, that is the piece that has the marks on it.
Hill. I am sure it is.
Q. I think you said, you saw the cargo all measured abroad?
Hill. Yes, every piece; one iron marked the whole cargo.
Q. What burnt in?
Hill. No; a cutting iron.
Q. You had a vast many different marks?
Q. These were marked by the dealer you bought them of I suppose.
Hill. I did not buy any wood, my wood was all shipped on freight.
Q. What is the meaning of all these different marks?
Hill. That is best known to the gentlemen of the country.
Q. Then they were marked by the planter of the country?
Hill. They were squared and marked before my eyes.
Q. Who directed that?
Hill. Mr. Gorden, one of the merchants of the country; he marked most of them himself; they had their negroes there.
Q. Did you see the cargo put on board?
Hill. I saw every piece measured and marked, the log-book will account for the cargo took on board.
Q. I believe this Mr. Richmond had a private trade of his own.
Hill. No, I agreed that no wood should be on board that ship but the merchants; I bought none of my own, but after it was freighted.
Q. Had this man any wood of his own?
Hill. When I first agreed with this gentleman, I admitted no wood to go on board the ship but for the gentlemen. My mate smuggled a piece of wood, and I discovered it; I wrote him a letter, he begg'd my pardon, and said he would do so no more. After that he asked me to give him leave to put a small piece on board a man gave him, which I did; they were not small logs, they were pieces ten or twelve feet long, and ten or twelve inches square; about two or three hundred feet together I suppose.
Q. How much wages did you give?
Hill. Three pound per month.
Q. Was there any dispute about his having three pound or three pound ten shillings.
Q. And you never mentioned to him, that if he drove any private trade you must not know of it?
Q. Do you know any thing of his papers?
Q. The cabin was broke open, I believe.
Hill. I do not know.
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COURT. You had so very good an opinion of him, that you would not search Sir Peter Thompson's wharf, yet you say he smuggled a piece or two on board?
Q. Had you none of your own on board?
Hill. That was a vessel sunk; I bought it, it was shipped as cargo.
Council. Look at that piece, and see if you can tell what marks are there?
Gordon. This to the best of my knowledge, is what I marked.
Q. Can you say positively?
Gordon. I think I could, I am almost positive.
Court. What mark is it?
Gordon. G, M.
Q. What else?
Gordon. Here is something like a figure of 6; here is something like the top of a figure of 25 it is like a 264.
Q. Are you sure of it; you are sure there is a figure of 4?
Q. Can you be positive the other figure was a 6; I suppose the marks are not now so fresh as when you first made them?
Q. They cannot be seen so well after they have stood together?
Gordon. That would not deface them in that manner.
Q. How do you suppose that was done?
Gordon. It appears knocked out with a tool.
Q. Some part of the marks remain?
Q. Do these marks that now remain, appear to you to be the marks that you put on?
Gordon. They look to me to be so.
Q. Will you swear that they are the marks.
Gordon. I dare not say either the one or the other.
Q. Are there any other pieces that you can swear to the marks of?
Gordon. There are some; I can swear more to the pieces than by the marks.
Q. Was such wood as this generally brought from there?
Gordon. Yes, it is the same sort of wood that generally comes from that place.
Q. Had you ever any conversation with him in consequence of any suspicion of him?
Massom. I was informed that he had landed wood contrary to my, and I believe contrary to the Captain's orders; I called him down into the cabbin, and asked him about it; that was in June I believe; he told me then that he had none, and had landed none, but two little bits. I was informed of it by Mr. Fossack, and Mr. Bowler; Mr. Fossack is the wharfinger, at the Jamaica-wharf. Mr. Bowler measured the whole cargo: I only allowed the Captain a tun; and I gave the prisoner no authority to land any.
Q. I believe, though you gave him no authority to land wood, yet it is pretty well known that the officers have sometimes private property contrary to the will of the owner?
Massom. We don't let any person interfere with our trade.
Council. You don't allow it, but yet it will often happen?
Massom. But it is not right that an officer should take any thing without the consent of of the Captain.
Q. Did not you break open the prisoner's cabbin?
Massom. I went on board for the books, the boy said he could take the Smith's, the butcher's books, and another penny book out.
Q. Were these the books? (shewing the witnesses some memoramdum books.)
Massom. Yes, these are them.
Q. Are what you took out, books that relate to the ships account, or did you take out any book of any private dealings of the prisoner.
Massom. No; besides these, I only saw a single piece of paper, which the boy handed me, mentioning something about a book that had been sent on shore by mistake.
Q. I believe the mate is not concerned in making the entry?
Massom. No; it is made by the Captain, and I generally go along with the Captain to see it.
Q. So the mate could not tell what entry was made; I believe you went to Sir Peter Thompson's wharf.
Massom. Not for some time; I had such great faith in that lad that I could trust the whole property with him.
Q. Was he apprehended or did he surrender?
Massom. He surrendered at Captain Hill's.
Q. Did he come voluntarily?
Massam. Yes; he knew there was a warrant out.
Q. Has he ever been denied the sight of any books or papers that were there?
Massam. No; I have been applied to but I never saw any other than these.
William Bowler . I am a broker and measurer. I was employed to measure the cargo of mahogany that came home in the Chance; I measured some part at the Jamaica wharf, the other part at Hitchcock and Millan's wharf, a little higher up; there were 805 logs, ends and pieces. I began to measure the cargo on the 29th of May; I continued on it, I believe, near five weeks before I had done. The difference in the measurement between Mr. Hill's account and mine was 12000 feet; I don't look upon him to be a measurer: I made it 212,000 feet, Mr. Hill made it 200,000.
Q. Did not you find some wood among the cargo that was not mahogany, that was of a peculiar quality?
Bowler. Yes; I called them white wood.
Q. There were marks and numbers on those pieces I believe?
Bowler. I have not been very accurate about these marks; one of them is G. M.
Q. What may be the value of that white wood?
Bowler. We never had any of it; I don't look upon it to be worth even the freight.
Q. So there is 12000 feet difference between Mr. Hill's measurement and yours?
Bowler. There is 12,300 feet difference between his manner of measuring for freight and my measuring in the port of London; I measure for sale.
Q. Can you tell how many superficial feet freight measure there were?
Bowler. Two hundred and seven thousand
Q. from the jury. Did you measure all the pieces as you found them, and make no allowance for freight?
Bowler. By no means for freight. As I was passing by Sir Peter Thompson's wharf, about the 11th or 12th of June, I saw ten, twelve, or fourteen pieces of mahogany; I thought they were very much like the cargo that was going through my hands at that time; I examined them, but I could not discover any marks or numbers upon them. When they came to a public sale, I went down to the wharf, and the measurement was offered to me; they were sold by auction about ten or a dozen days after I saw them. When I saw Mr. Hill some time after, I asked him if he knew of any wood coming from that shore besides his cargo; he said, no. I told him they were advertised as Honduras logs.
Q. I believe Captain Hill is not a very accurate measurer?
Bowler. I don't apprehend that he is; it is not his profession.
Q. But supposing you had measured all the wood that came out of the ship, there might have been a great difference in Captain Hill's measurement and yours?
Bowler. Probably if any other measurer had done it, there might be.
Q. Then there might be, you say, a great difference between Captain Hill's measurement and yours?
Bowler. No doubt of it.
Q. And between measurement for freight, unless he knew how, there might be a large difference?
Q. Might there be this 12000 feet difference in that quantity, if there had been no embezzlement at all?
Bowler. Yes, very probably.
Q. I find these logs were publickly exposed for ten or twelve days.
Bowler. They laid on the public wharf.
Q. You measured the timber on the wharf without knowing whether it was the whole cargo or not?
Q. Do you know any thing of a barge being sunk?
Q. Do you remember any person's landing a particular wood called white wood?
Fossick. No; we landed some white wood among the cargo of the ship Chance.
Q. Have you any note of that white wood?
Fossick. I had a bill of every lighter that came up; that white wood was landed as mahogany belonging to the ship Chance.
Christian Stotenburgh . I was in the ship at the Musqueto shore; the prisoner cut three pieces of white wood on the shore; it was put on board the ship on his account; I believe without the captain's knowledge.
Q. Did the prisoner desire you to keep it secret?
Q. Was it against orders to put these on board?
Stotenburgh. Captain Hill knew nothing of it.
Q. Have you looked at this white wood?
Q. Is it part of the wood cut at the Musqueto shore?
Stotenburgh. I cannot say.
Q. Why did not you tell Captain Hill of this?
Stotenburgh. It was nothing to me.
Q. Was it cut in the day time or the night?
Stotenburgh. I was not with them; I believe it was cut in the day.
Q. Is it of the same sort?
Stotenburgh. As far as I can say.
John Coates . I am a waterman; I was employed by Capt. Massom in landing wood from his ship; I put out several pieces for the prisoner, several times; he ordered me to put some into the water, and some into the ferry.
Q. How many?
Coates. Five or six pieces, and I did so, he said it was his.
Q. They were pretty large?
Coates. I cannot tell the thickness of them.
Coates. No; I had a piece and was going to put it into the water, by his order; but the Captain was coming on shore, and then he bid me put it into the barge; he called for the cook's axe to chop it into the boat; I did not see what he did; I was in the ship.
Q. Did you see the mark on that piece?
Coates. I cannot say, Captain Hill was on board, and was gone down into the cabin.
Q. How many of the pieces might there be in the barge where he chopt?
Coates. There might be thirty or forty pieces, we put some out afterwards, some into the water, and other vessels for the mate.
James Smith . I am a waterman; the prisoner was mate of the ship Chance; I was employed by him to receive some wood for him; he bid me call when I passed that way, and if any of his wood was at hand, I should take it up to the wharf; I called sundry times; I went away with a piece, and sometimes without a piece.
Q. Did you meet the Captain there?
Smith. Once when I was towing a piece to the boat; I carried seven or eight pieces to Sir Peter Thompson's wharf; they were logs of different sizes.
Q. The Captain saw you towing the log, did he say nothing to you?
Smith. No; he was about twice the length of this place from me.
Q. Did you ever take any mahogany from the prisoner, when the Captain saw you?
Smith. No; not that I know of.
Richard Lough . I am a waterman; I carried a sure about a week before; the ship was out; coming on shore the mate asked me if I would drink a glass of rum; I went on deck, and he asked me if I would tow a piece of wood to shore; whether it was oak or mahogany I do not know; I asked him what I should do with it; he bid me tow it ashore; and make it fast, and somebody would come at tide time.
Q. Is it very common to tow timber ashore?
Q. Was the Captain on board?
Lough. Yes; I saw his wig, he was in the cabin; I towed the piece round the stern of the ship, by the cabin window; he came on shore a little after, not ten yards from it.
Q. How did you know it was his property?
Carr. He told me so; I never saw the prisoner before in my life; he said he had a parcel of mahogany, and asked if I would buy it; he said, there was about two thousand foot. I told him I would rather chuse the selling, of it, than the buying of it, if he would give me a commission; he said he had spoke to Mr. Heard, and he would know his mind before he would give me a commission; he came again and said, he was not at home, and he would not stay any longer, because he wanted money; he said it was at Sir Peter Thompson's wharf; I went; there were about ten pieces.
Q. Did he shew them to you?
Carr. Yes; he asked when I would sell it; I told him as soon as possible, and fixed the ensuing Wednesday: I told him I should prepare an advertisement; and asked him his name; he said his name was Richard Richmond ; I asked the ships name, he said it was immaterial; I told him I desired to have his name and the ship's name; he said he did not choose to have either his name or the ship's name advertised; I asked his reason for that; he said the captain and I are indulged to bring over some wood freight free, but if we exceed the quantity allowed us, they make us pay freight for the whole; I told him it was very well, and I would proceed to advertise it; I was not to put his or the ship's name. It appeared in the Daily four days successive, and three day's in the Ledger.
Q. How did you advertise it?
Carr. As the property of a gentleman that came from Honduras; he said it came from the Musqueto shore; I said that is what we call Honduras; he made no objection to that; I had an hundred hand bills printed; and sold the wood at the sale; I sold four lots to Mr. Hodder; Mr. Slater, two lots; Mr. Lendon had one lot; Mr. Clifford three lots or logs, that is ten in the whole.
Q. Did you observe any marks on them?
Q. Did you receive the purchase money?
Carr. Yes; it was four pounds twelve shillings and 8 d. I had a receipt of the money.
Charles Hodder . I am a purchaser of some of these logs; I bought four, three of them fourteen feet long.
Q. Could you see any marks?
Hodder. I could distinguish some, others are chopped out.
Q. Is this piece any of your's?
Mr. Slater. I bought two large pieces; they ear in my yard, only this piece that is cut off.
Q. Is it marked?
Clifford. Yes; it has R. R. and an I in another place.
Q. to Capt. Hill. Do you believe that to be a part of the cargo?
Hill. I believe it is; I believe that I has been an L.
Q. Mr. Massom was along with you?
Q. Were there any marks obliterated?
Hill. There is a mark that has been rubbed, or tore, or somehow it is bruised, I do not know with what, but the I appears to be the original mark.
Alexander Tate . I bought some timber on board the ship Chance, of Mr. Richmond, it was mahogany; I bought some short heads; some nine inches, some a foot, some twenty inches; this piece I bought singly by itself a fortnight afterwards; that is a log; there was nothing in the ship but itself; I bought it of Mr. Richmond.
Q. What was the value of all the ends you bought?
Tate. Three pounds three; there was nothing in the ship but them, when I was there; there was nothing of the cargo on board at that time.
Q. Is there any mark on that piece?
Tate. None to my knowledge.
Gorden. That piece that Mr. Hodder bought is a part of the cargo that is shipped for the merchant.
Q. Are you then sure of it; there is nothing but an L on it?
Gorden. There is the tails of the other letters.
Q. Are these marks enough to make you know what letters?
Gorden. No; it is just the same wood that is shipped; and this piece, there is not such another piece on the shore; this is what they call a crutch; and nobody gets them but myself; I know it must be mine by the shape of the log; nobody in the country cuts such but me.
Clifford. He has swore as positive to my piece, which appears not to be his mark.
Q. Did not you refuse to have it brought to court?
Clifford. Because it would damage the piece; it has lain up six days for any body to look at.
Gorden. I have seen the wood at Hodders; there is an L on it; but I swore more from the nature of the wood than the mark; I bought it of the people in the country; I consign'd it to Mr. Massom; my people sell'd it; nobody in the country has got negroes to cut wood but me.
Though I was chief mate when we went away, I did not agree for my wages, till about five weeks afterwards; I signed articles, and he put down 3 l. a man; I told him I would not serve him for 3 l. he said if I would, then the carpenter would sign it; and he said if I would I should bring a venture of my own, that would make up more to me; when we were coming away he said, you shall not deal for tortoiseshel; I said what must I do? he said I should buy as many pieces of mahogany as I would; here is a gentleman here that I bought some of when I was in the country; he told me I might buy some tortoiseshell for him, which I did, as much as came to 140 l. my cabin was broke open, by order of Captain Massom , and he took my books out, which he denied before Justice Keeling; then he brought two books and said that was all; there are others that cut wood besides him: Captain Hill asked me one day if I had sold the wood; I told him yes, and where; he said it was very well; and said no more; Mrs. Hill told me there was a warrant out against me, when I went to sup there, and bid me go out of theMassom was gone to Justice Sherwood's; said I must go with him; I said I should be glad to stay till Captain Massom came back; he said, will you give me your word and honour that you will stay till I come back? I said I would; he went away and left me; I staid till he came back; they committed me till Tuesday; here are people in court that cut that wood.
For the Prisoner.
Thomas Shaw . I was a foremast man on board this ship. When I was on shore I observed a piece of mahogany buried in the sand; I was at the taking of it up, the prisoner took it; it is a frequent thing to find mahogany buried in the sand. I was at the cutting it; and this particular piece that has been produced here as one of the pieces belonging to the cargo is part of the piece that I found buried in the sand. I know the prisoner had four or five more pieces on board; there was among the cargo shipped on board this ship a piece of carbuncle wood, that is a piece of mahogany, which I suppose had been cast away in some ship that had been there before; it had shell fish sticking about it, and was worm-eaten. This I reckon to be the white wood they talk of, that was hoisted into the ship as part of the cargo for the benefit of the owners. It is a frequent thing on board these ships, when pieces don't go in cleverly, so as to stow well, they hawl them out again, and chip off part of them; and if an officer does not stand by, the sailors are as apt to cut where the marks are as any where else. They screw the logs in; and if a mark should happen to be put upon a place where it is splintered, they may by thrusting them in, break off the marks.
Theophilus Hart . I am a trader at the Musqueto shore. The prisoner had one log of me, and I know he traded with one Armstrong, a cutter of logwood at the Musqueto shore; I carried three guns to Armstrong from the prisoner, which I suppose Armstrong paid him for in mahogany; he could not pay him in any thing else.
Captain Pagett . I was in this trade about the time this voyage was undertaken. The common wages of a chief mate at that time on board such ships was not less than four pounds, sometimes four pounds five shillings.
Captain Hill. I did not hire the prisoner, nor did I give him liberty to have any private trade.
Mr. Massom. I agreed with the prisoner for three pound per month; there was no allowance for any private trade.
James Jones . I keep a public house , in Bethnal Green . The prisoner is a journeyman to one Mr. Jackson, a smith , in Shoreditch. Mr. Jackson sent the prisoner to my house to hang a bell, on the 19th of October; the bell was to be hung in my servant's room, up two pair of stairs, the wire came down into my bed chamber, up one pair of stairs: a chest of drawers stood in the chamber in which I kept my money; I had twenty seven guineas and a half in these drawers, which I put into a coffee cup, in the drawers, three days before the prisoner came; he was employed from ten in the morning till six in the afternoon in hanging the bell.
Q. He had occasion to be in both rooms?
Jones. Yes; my wife went up stairs about eleven o'clock, to put her things together, because a strange man was there. The prisoner went to dinner and staid about an hour, or anThomas Hunter , but he did not know where he lived; so I went home to bed again. I got up early the next morning; and by enquiring of one of the Smith's men, I found he lodged in Red Lion-street, Spital fields; he was at home; I asked him to go with me to a public house, which he did, and there I charged a constable with him: he said he was innocent; we searched him, and found upon him only a guinea and a half and some silver; he gave me the key of his chest, which was at Deptford; we found no money, either in his chest or at his lodgings.
Grace Jones . I am the prosecutor's wife. I went up stairs, about twelve o'clock, to look after my things; I opened the drawer where the money was, and the money was safe then; I saw it in the coffee cup. The prisoner was then up in the two pair of stairs room.
Q. Are you sure you locked the drawer again?
Jones. Yes; I was going to bed, I went to open the drawer, in order to put some more money in; when I put the key in I found the drawer was unlocked; as soon as I opened the drawer I missed the money.
Q. Was the door fastened while he went to dinner?
Jones. No; it was open: he staid and drank a pint of beer after he had done the bell.
I know nothing of the money.
Thomas M'Gee . I live at Shadwell , I lost a shirt and a pair of stockings, about a month ago out of my house; I keep a green-stall , and a house of lodgers; my wife was going to wash the linen; and she missed the shirt. Sarah Anderson came in last Saturday about 8 o'clock, and offered my shirt to sell; I got a warrant at Justice Sherwood's against Sarah Anderson : I took her before the Justice; she said she bought it of the prisoner, and she took the prisoner up.
Q. What did the prisoner say about it when she was taken up?
M'Gee. She denied it.
(The shirt produced and deposed to by the prosecutor.)
Q. to M'Gee. What did she say when she offered to sell you the shirt?
M'Gee. She asked me if I wanted a coarse shirt for myself or my lodger, I looked at it and saw it was mine; I told her it was stolen; she said some of my lodgers sold it to her.
Anderson. I never mentioned a lodger; I bought it at the pawn-broker's shop.
I am as innocent as the child in its mother's womb; I was born in Shadwell, I never had a bad character; I did once sell a coat &c. of my husband's, I sent a child for some beer, and some gin, to make some hot; I went out at the door, and she was in liquor. I am innocent.
Sarah Bolton was indicted for stealing one copper pottage pot value 11 s. and one brass cover , the property of Elizabeth Holloway , widow , Aug. 13 . +
Mary Ann Holloway . My mother, the prosecutrix, lives in Ball-yard, Lincoln's-inn-fields ; she looks after the butchers shops in Clare-market ; the prisoner is an unhappy woman, she has no place to live in, but lies in the street. On the 13th of August, I had been out a washing, when I came home about 9 at night, my mother was then, going out about other business; soon after, I went out on an errand for about ten minutes; when I came near the house I heard the door go, I had fastned it when I went out; I had left a candle in the window; I saw the light at the door; I called out who is there? and then I did not see her face, but by her shape and make, I knew it was the prisoner; I know her perfectly. Her cloak stuck out as if there was something under it; my mother came home in about five minutes, she missed the pot as soon as she came in. It was a copper pot, with a brass cover. She was not taken till about a month after: She was taken somewhere in Broker's-alley. When she was before Sir John, he asked her what she did with the pot; she said she sold it in Shoe-lane.
Q. Did she mention where she had it from?
I know nothing about it.
The 3d Count as being the property of Thomas Beach, Esq.
And the 5th Count charges it as being the property of persons unknown.
To which, he pleaded Guilty . T .
785 (L.) RObert Saunders was indicted for unlawfully uttering and tending in payment to John Richards , a counterfeit half guinea, knowing the same to be counterfeit; and at the time of such uttering, having in his custody another counterfeit half guinea, knowing the same to be counterfeit against the statute . ++
"Joseph Gurney, the short-hand writer, read the prisoner's evidence, as he had taken it verbatim, on the trial of Gumpay Humphreys; in which, the prisoner asserted that Mr. Bonnet said before the Justice, that he did not know the man that had defrauded him, that he said it was six or eight months ago, and a man might alter in that time; that then Mr. Bond, one of Sir John Fielding 's clerks, pointed with a pen at Humphreys; that Bureau said, that is Mr. Humphreys, that then Mr. Bonnet fixed upon him and not before." See the evidence of the prisoner at large, No. 532.
Mr. Bonnet. When the people were brought into the room, I fixed upon Gumpay Humphreys, without any token given whatever.
Q. Do you remember Bond pointing to Gumpay Humphreys, before you fixed on him?
Bonnet. There was no such thing.
Q. Do you remember before that, Bureau saying that is Mr. Humphreys?
Bonnet. No, he said, after I had fixed on him, that is Mr. Humphreys.
Q. Did you say you did not know the man, it being six months ago, that perhaps he might alter?
Bonnet. No, I said no such thing.
Q. from the Prisoner. Did not Mr. Bond stand next to me?
Q. I took no notice of any such thing.
Mr. Gines. I was present at the examination of Gumpay Humphreys; about fifteen or twenty persons were called in, out of another room, and Humphreys was set about the middle of the semicircle without any particular mark, or any thing whereby he could be known or distinguished. A profound silence was observed, and Mr. Bonnet stept forward, and with great caution and deliberation he passed from man to man, without receiving any hint or direction
Q. Then is what the prisoner said, that Mr. Bonnet did not fix upon Humphreys till Bond pointed at him with his pen, and Bureau said that is the man, false or true?
Gines. It is false, every syllable.
Q. Did Mr. Bonnet say that he did not know the man; that it was six or eight months ago, and a man might alter?
Gines. No; so far from it, that he plainly shewed he did not know the man.
Q. from the prisoner. Whether you knew me when I went to the Mansion house to be bailed?
Gines. Certainly I did not; it was not my business to identify his person.
Q. Did Mr. Bonnet say he did not know Gumpay Humphreys, for it was six or eight months ago, and a man might alter.
Sibby. I did not hear him say so.
Q. What did Mr. Bonnet do when he came into the room?
Sibby. He was ordered to fix upon the man; he went cautiously from man to man, and he fixed upon Gumpay Humphreys, and said that is the man: some little time after I saw that he was the man; I perfectly knew him, he having been three different times at my master's house: Bond did not point to Humphreys, and Bureau did not say that was the man till after my master had fixed upon him.
Q. from the prisoner to Mr. Bonnet. Did not you look hard at me.
Mr. Bonnet. I did, and there is something of a likeness between ye.
Q. Did you point with a pen to Humphreys?
Bond. Upon the solemn oath that I have taken, I did not, and I don't know that I had a pen in my hand at that time : the prisoner was brought into the room, Mr. Bonnet and Mr. Gines were in the other room; we ordered every person in the outward office to come in and the prisoner to be mixed with them: when they were all come in I believe Humphreys stood about the middle, Bureau stood at the right hand of the room, I was to the left of Humphreys; I was two or three from him, they were all still and quiet; Mr. Bonnet was desired to go round the room, to see if he could pitch upon the man, and he pitched upon Humphreys.
Q. Did he say, before he fixed upon him, that he did not know him?
Q. Did he say it was six or eight months ago, and a man might alter.
Bond. No; and it was not till after Mr. Bonnet had fixed upon the man that Bureau said that it was Humphreys.
Mr. Bonnet did not know him till Bureau said that is Mr. Humphreys; Bureau was evidence against him to clear himself; therefore he said, to the best of my knowledge; Mr. Bond stood next to me, with a pen in his hand.
He called Henry Eleazar his father, and Solomon Eleazar , his brother; Hymen Wegg, who had employed him four years; Henry Levi and Henry Keys , who had known him from his infancy, who all gave him a good character.
Guilty , T .
Received sentence of death, seven.
Transportation for 14 years, one.
Transportation for 7 years, forty.
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